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From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Padre roster for mock expansion draft
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:36:36 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego


I seem to have misplaced Dave Kirsch's e-mail address...
Dave, hope you snarf this up.

Here is my list of 15 Padres to protect from the expansion draft.  
I did not get any comments after posting the previous version; however,
I found out Fernandez' status as a FA.


Initial protection list (15):
----------------------------
Gwynn 			10 & 5
Hurst 			no-trade contract
McGriff
Sheffield
Benes
Seminara
Darrin Jackson
Dan Walters
Greg Harris		though with his injury history...
---------------
Darrell Sherman		great hitting OF
Tim Scott		(reputed to be the closer of the future...)
Guillermo Velasquez	good hitting 1B/OF
Lance Painter		top pitching prospect
Tim Worrell		top pitching prospect
Dave Staton		big slugging 1B/OF/DH(!), though just underwent 
			rotator cuff surgery, so maybe could be risked.

Other possibilities: 
--------------------
Mike Maddux		been doing well... 
Rich Rodriguez		has done the job for two years...
Luis Lopez		IF prospect
Jose Melendez		probably not, can find pitchers like him anywhere
Paul Faries		who's on second?  Stillwell sucks, but Faries has
			lost favor, even though he's a good fielder & hitter 
			with speed.  Gardner won't be protected, though can
			also play.

question marks?:
----------------
Jay Gainer 		might not be subject to draft? 
Jeff Gardner		might be a 6-year minor league free agent now
Tom Lampkin		probably not, though he's doing well at AAA  

===================================================================

Free Agents, not subject to draft:
------------------------------------
Myers
Tony Fernandez
Benito Santiago
Craig Lefferts


No way, nohow
-------------
Stillwell
Clark (I hope)
Ward
Azocar
Stephenson
Teufel
Deshaies?
anyone else at AAA right now...

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From: sgs@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Dick Williams as Manager of the Padres?!?!?
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:35:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug21.223552.27336
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <37122@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.202231.23018@u.washington.edu> sgs@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith) writes:
>>In article <37108@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) writes:
>>>Yes, players tend to hate [Dick Williams].  He is a bit of a jerk.  But 
>>>everywhere he's gone, he's won.  He knows how to manage his players and 
>>>get the most out of the team.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>With the exception of his most recent assignment, with the Mariners.  
>
>OK, but that was barely a year and I submit that the Mariners
>are the most consistently underachieving team for their talent...
>

This might well be true, but your original comment and this new one are
contradictory.  Underachieving teams are supposedly the ones that Williams
is best for, but he most clearly did not know how to get the most out of
the Mariners. I think he got too big for his britches and then became a 
quitter when he wasn't successful.  Not someone I'd want to hire to manage
my ballteam.

Or are you trying to tell me that Williams is still his magic self and
the Mariners are just a hopeless case? 8-(

--Steve
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: MLB Standings and Scores for Wed, Aug 12th, 1992
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:25:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.160748.12356@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared) writes:
>In article <16ba0cINNoof@agate.berkeley.edu> jtchern@ocf.berkeley.edu (Joseph Hernandez) writes:
>>        MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STANDINGS FOR WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 12, 1992
>>Boston Red Sox        52    60    .464  13.5      4-6    Lost 3  35-24  17-36
>>Cleveland Indians     51    62    .451  15.0     z7-3     Won 2  28-30  23-32
>>New York Yankees      51    62    .451  15.0      3-7    Lost 2  27-28  24-34
>>
>This is getting more depressing by the day.  A game and a half out of the
>cellar!?!  AAAAAAAAAAAA!!!

I heard that eight games is the farthest below .500 that the Sox have
been in a Long Time.

I look forward to that juicy draft pick! <sigh>

Only thing left to root for is Clemens' quest for another Cy.

Cheers,
-Valentine
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Mattingly & Murray vs. Milligan  was: Re: Oriole News -
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:02:00 GMT

In article <5640@transfer.stratus.com> gene@ok.sw.stratus.com (Eugene Loparco) writes:
>>
>>Murray:	.323 OBP, .421 SLG
>>Milligan:	.394 OBP, .362 SLG
>
>I would take Murray with his .421 slg, higher batting average and more RBI's
>any day over a "slugger" with a .362 slg.

What the hell makes you think Milligan is a slugger?  Murray is a
slugger.  Milligan belongs batting first or second in the lineup where
his great OBP is of use.

>Milligan gets out 61%
>of the time and is hardly productive the other 39% of the time.  Last time I
>checked he had under 45 RBI and very few extra base hits (as is evident by
>his .362 slg).

You continue to judge him as a slugger.  WHY???  Do you judge Brett
Butler by his RBIs and extra base hits?  Or by his OBP and runs
scored?  Milligan has 59 runs scored in 238 outs.  Murray has 46 runs
scored in 295 outs.

If I had a runner on second that I wanted to get home, I would
probably prefer Murray.  Not that his .255 BA and .415 SLG are all
that impressive either.  But with the bases empty and 0 or 1 out, I'm
certainly going to prefer Milligan.  They are different types of
hitters, and suited to different jobs in the lineup.

>That's what I thought.  In my opinion, Mattingly is not only having a
>far superior year than Milligan but he is having a good year for any
>first baseman.

Feh.  Mattingly's defense is far overrated.  Even the worst first
baseman in the league makes almost as many plays as the best.  And
Don is no longer the best defensive 1B.

Cheers,
-Valentine
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Twins/Mariners  Game-9  8/15/92
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:14:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19751
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


        Twins ............. 2 ;   Mariners ........... 3

A 2-out 2 -strikes rally started by Munoz in the top of the
9th, which  allowed  Scott-Leus to score Minnesota's tying
run off a bloop hit to CF, was in vain as the Mariners came
right back in the bottom of the 9th with the winning run.

Randy Johnson, who carried a no hitter through 6 innings
surrendered the tying run to Larkin as Leus doubled him in.
Johnson threw 150 + pitches and went all the way for a
very good effort. I am unsure as the Tapani, who left after
8 innings was charged with the loss.

Since the Atletics won their game with the Angels with a 
6-run 8th inning to win 9-5, the Twins drop 4 games behind
them.

Today Smiley(12-6) is on the mound and as of now they are
leading the Mariners 5-3 in the top of the 5th. 

Tommorow is a rest day and the Twins travell to Claveland
for a 3-game series with the Tribe for games 10, 11 & 12
. Scott Erickson will
be on the mound on Tuesday.  

S.H
Forever Twins
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From: michaelh@netcom.com (Michael Hernandez)
Subject: Re: St. Pete Guppies 1993 lineup
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 18:26:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: The UNIFIED TEAM

In article <4200337@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell) writes:
>St. Pete Guppies lineup for 1993:
>
>LF - Barry Bonds
>CF - Kirby Puckett
>RF - Cory Snyder
>3B - Matt Williams
>SS - Shawn Dunston
>2B - John Patterson
>1B - Will Clark
>C  - Steve Decker
>
>Reserves: Lewis, Manwaring, Leonard, Clayton, James, Felder, whoever
>
>Starters: Black
>          Swift
>          Garrelts
>          Burkett
>          Cook  
>
>Relievers: Brantley
>           Wilson
>           Beck
>           Oliveras
>           whoever
>
>Gone (trade or release) Uribe, Thompson (won't last on the concrete of
>     the suncoast dome), McGee (says he isn't happy), Righetti
>
>Get Puckett and Bonds from the free agent market, Dunston (whose value in
>Chi has dropped) for a draft pick or a trade and Cook from the Indians for
>a trade.  Also may be a couple good relievers out there to grab.
>    
>************************************************
>* Donald Boell - Hewlett Packard               *

This scenario has no chance of becoming reality because
it is based on a false premise...The Saint Petersburg
Giants have not existed in the past, do NOT exist in 
the present, and `remain a perpetual possibilty only
in the world of speculation.' Now on the other hand,
this does remain a viable proposition for the 
SAN FRANCISCO GIANTS, who will be playing at
TOWNSEND YARDS, by the year 1994. ;-)

michael 
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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Astacio Shuts Out Mets for Dodger Win
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:17:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.060829.2269@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <l93oneINNqqk@mizar.usc.edu> pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger) writes:
>
>>The Dodgers are showing their look of the future, and
>>suddenly, things don't look quite so bad.  Karros
>>has all but sewn up Rookie of the Year honors, Rodriquez
>
>Not so fast.  Moises Alou is a rookie as well, and his performance has been
>much better than Karros'.  (Although Karros does have the glamour stats that
>the mediots see.)  Up to last Monday, these are their stats:

Actually, I think almost anyone sees the 16 HR in Dodger Stadium as not bad for 
a rookie.

>Karros:		.299 OBP, .464 SLG
>Alou:		.339 OBP, .467 SLG
>
>And Alou plays a tougher position, and plays it very well.

He's also played about 1/3 less than Karros. "much better"? No. Better, 
perhaps, but left field is really not that much more difficult than 1st base.

Right now it looks close. They'll have over a month to sort it out. One hot
series by one and a cold series by the other (esp Alou with fewer PAs) and 
your "much better" becomes much worse.

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From: J056600@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Say it's so! Baseball in Tampa Bay!!!
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:10:37 GMT

In <1992Aug12.210943.18865@adobe.com>, Sherri Nichols writes:

In article <1992Aug12.200557.18069@parc.xerox.com> zappala@Xerox.com (Daniel Zap
>>I'll have to paraphrase your original posting, since you didn't include it,
>>but my point was that it is difficult to buy a franchise when you are faced
>>with having the franchise lose money every year.

>No team really loses money every year.  The Giants certainly haven't.

Isn't it nice to have slick accountants around?

>> You responded by saying
>>that franchises don't always lose money, and besides, it would have to
>>lose an awful lot of money to counteract the growth rate of $8 million to
>>$111 million in 14 years.
>>
>>The above excerpt, beyond telling us that Grousbeck doesn't want to buy the
>>team, also indicates that the projected annual losses *are* in fact enough
>>to hinder someone from buying the team.

>No, it tells us that Grousbeck doesn't want to buy the team.  Since he's
>been painted in the local media as the knight in shining armor come to
>rescue the team, it's difficult for him to say "I don't want to buy the
>team".  It's much easier to say "I can't afford to buy the team".

He *could* afford it. He was being put into an unfair situation.  One moment,
he's looking *at the possibility*, then as soon as the press conference last
Friday was over, the local media practically had a gun to his head to buy the
team.

   (Stuff about "paper losses" deleted)

Owners of sports franchises have become adept at "revenue hiding."  This is why
the NHL owners' claim of losing money was a hoax.  In Washington, the owner of
the Bullets (NBA) and the Capitals (NHL) hid luxury box revenue in a new way.
Rather than controlling the rights to use the boxes just for all Caps games or
for all Bullets games, the owner created a deal (I think) with the Cap Centre
to sell "exclusive use" of the boxes to any one group.  A separate business was
set up this way, with the Cap Centre being the business.  Now, groups could pay
$100,000 (or whatever) to "use" the boxes *any time they want, all year, even
if no event is taking place there*.  Of course, most people only used the boxes
when *it just so happened* that a Caps or Bullets game was taking place...
None of that revenue shows up on the bottom line for the Caps or the Bullets.
I'm sure you'd agree that's rather sneaky and underhanded.

>Sherri Nichols
>snichols@adobe.com

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From: yajima@nttcom.ntt.jp (YAJIMA Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,soc.culture.japan,fj.rec.baseball
Subject: Japan Cetral League
Date: 17 Aug 92 02:07:49 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: NTT Network Information Systems Labs. Musashino, Tokyo

JAPAN CETRAL LEAGUE STANDING (through games on Sunday August 16)

                           W   L   T   Pct.   GB
Yakult Swallows           52  37   0   .584   --
Hanshin  Tigers           51  43   1   .543   3.5
Yomiuri Giants            50  45   0   .526   5.0
Hiroshima Carp            46  44   0   .511   6.5
Taiyo Whales              40  54   1   .426  14.5
Chunichi Dragons          38  54   0   .413  15.5
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From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Red Sox Protected list
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:58:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Aug21.160416.2032@encore.com>, jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe Lundy) writes:
> Red Sox Protected List
> 
> Roger Clemens
> Frank Viola

IMO, the following belong as well:

John Dopson		He's pretty good, most of the time.
John Valentin		I know, I know, he's not really proven yet...
Jack Clark		:)

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From: msw10@nepenthe.as (Michael S. Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Tim Wakefield & the Bucs
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:28:23 GMT
Reply-To: msw10@nepenthe.as
Organization: Sun Microsystems

Does Wakefield pitch on 3 or 4 days rest? More specifically, is he likely to pitch
in this weekends series against the Giants and which day?

Michael Wong
msw10@amdahl.com
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: JEFF REARDON
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:27:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.174244.24481@osf.org> ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
>
>  He can't help it - he's just used too much! He's actually quite effective
>  when used every 4th day or so - then is ERA is very good. But when used
>  with less than 2 days rest, his ERA is about 4. I forget the exact figures,
>  but these stats were given in Gammons Globe column yesterday.

Oh, great!  You mean we are supposed to pay this guy $2.5 million to
pitch one inning every fourth day?????  That is ridiculous!

Closers have to be able to pitch effectively up to 3 days in a row.
(As long as it is only one inning per game.)  If Reardon can no longer
do that, then he is no longer an adequate closer.

A closer should be expected to appear in at least 40% of his team's
games.  (Almost all of the regular closers do.)  You are proposing a
closer appearing in less than 30% of the games.  That is obscene!

Cheers,
-Valentine
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From: Don Soucy <AB47@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: World Series Info
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:13:47 GMT

In article <0095F6CC.862C4FE0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>hi there
>Can anyone e-mail/post the winners & runnersup of
>World Series in the 80's & 90-91
>.
>.1980 Phil over KC 4-2
  1981 LA over NY Yankees 4-2
  1982 St Louis over Milwaukee 4-3
  1983 Baltimore over Philadelphia 4-1
  1984 Dteroit over San Diego 4-1
  1985 Kansas City over St. Louis 4-3
  1986 NY over Boston 4-3 :-(
  1987 Minnesota over St. Louis 4-3
  1988 LA over Oakland 4-1
  1989 Oakland over San Francisco 4-0
  1990 Cincinnati over Oakland 4-0
  1991 Minnesota over Atlanta 4-3

  Don Soucy
From: gene@ok.sw.stratus.com (Eugene Loparco)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: What's with Eric Hanson?
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:53:25 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering


Can anyone in Seattle shed some light on why Eric Hanson is having such a
dreadful year?  Does he have a nagging injury?  Has he lost all of his
confidence?  Has he lost his wicked curveball?  Or does he just suck (ie.
he doesn't know how to "pitch", just how to "throw")?  Or is it a combination
of the above?

-Gene
From: mickey@equinox.unr.edu (Dale S Rogers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: SF Examiner survey of owners
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:19:21 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

In the 8/17/92 San Francisco Examiner there was a list of how the team
owners will vote on the pending move to St. Petersburg.  This list was
apparently based on interviews with owners and executives from all the
major league teams.

The results are as follows:

	In the national league, only Colorado, Pittsburgh, and San Diego
	are likely to vote NO.

	In the American League, only California and Texas plan to vote NO.

If the Examiner is accurate, the Giants are going to Florida.

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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: Oriole News -
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:14:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boo!  

In <5605@transfer.stratus.com> gene@ok.sw.stratus.com (Eugene Loparco) writes:

>In article <1992Aug17.172614.29772@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>>
>>I don't think anyone will hesistate at taking Finley, Harnisch, and Schilling
>>back for Glenn Davis, but why do you want to take Murray back for Milligan?
>>Murray is having a subpar year for a first baseman, while Milligan's is above
>>average, even when accounting for the park differences.  And Murray is 6 years
>>older than Milligan.
>>

>How is Milligan having an above average year and Murray a subpar year for
>first basemen?  Last time I checked Milligan was having a pretty mediocre
>year FOR ANY POSITION, let alone first base.  And although I don't have any
>stats in front of me, I thought that Murray was having a decent year.  Are
>you one of those walk devotees who thinks that a walk is the most important
>offensive stat there is?  That's the only way I can understand your statement.

>This will probably clear things up...

>Who's having a better year, Randy Milligan or Don Mattingly?

In terms of Runs Created per 27 innings as of about a week ago, as listed in
rsb by Nelson: 

Milligan  5.94
Mattingly 5.27
Murray    5.26

Or, if you prefer Jeff Sagarin's RPG ratings from USABW:

Milligan   5.91
Mattingly  4.65
Murray     4.56

Or we can use plain old On-Base plus Slugging:

Milligan   .756
Murray     .744 
Mattingly  .735

None of them is exactly setting the world on fire.  The ratings would
be a bit closer if you used DT's Marginal Runs.  Nevertheless, Milligan's
certainly creating more runs this year than either Murray or Mattingly.

Greg 

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From: miked@cis.ohio-state.edu (Michael Davey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Managing in the AL
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:37:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Aug21.163756.14867
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Originator: miked@pterodactyl.cis.ohio-state.edu

I was having a discussion the other day with a friend of mine and we were
discussing the upcoming ALCS and NLCS and I made the statement that I
would have to go with Oakland over the Jays for a variety of reasons, one
of which was that LaRussa is such a highly touted manager and Cito has such
a bad rap (on this net at least) as an on-the-field manager.  My friend
commented that managing doesn`t really matter that much in the AL due
to the DH (obviously).  I`d like to see some reasonable postings on the matter.
Personally, it seems obvious that managing takes a variety of skills not 
limited to double switches and when to bat for a pitcher or not, and its 
incorrect to ignore the other factors surrounding managing like handling
the different personalities, when to pitch out, when to steal, bunt, hit and
run, pitch around etc...  However, I do think the DH is an abomination and
AL baseball not as interesting as the NL brand.

--Mike D.--
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