From: bh437292@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Basil Hamdan)
Subject: Re: Rage (Re: Khomainy, etc.)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:32:55 GMT
Reply-To: bh437292@lance.colostate.edu
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University


In article <nabeel.727553296@oracle.sce.carleton.ca>, nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Bulbul) writes:
|> In <Jan20.163454.28872@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> bh437292@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Basil Hamdan) writes:
|> 
|> " |> > There is a cultural newsgroup specifically designed to handle
|> " |> > religious issues in Islam.   This post is of no cultural 
|> " |> > significance to Arabs whatsoever,
|> 
|> " You must be dense.  I said it is of no CULTURAL significance
|> " to ARABS.   This is a religious issue, it may be relavant
|> " to soc.culture.islam, not here.  This group is supposed
|> " to deal with Arabs not Muslims, so take your propaganda 
|> " off our turf.
|> 
|> " You posted the crap, you are the one spreading discord, at least
|> " have the courage to assume your acts. 
|> 
|>    
|>    I think you are passing through an emotional peak nowadays, I wonder
|> why you did not make any complaint about transforming this CULTURAL
|> group into a POLITICAL extention of tpm. Don't overreact, take it easy.



Here we go again. Another war of words on s.c.a.  
When Mr.  Abu-Khater posted a Fatwa denouncing Shia's as 
Kuffar, only Mr. Ilyess Bdaira and Iba'a ouichek 
criticized the post.  Even worst Mr. Nabeel aka Bulbul
blamed me for overreacting, and lack of consistency.
I wonder why if he so consistent in his criticizing
himself why did he not find anything wrong and did not 
criticize statements such as this one made by Mr. Abu-Khater:

|> It is not propaganda, here at waterloo we have 10s of Iranians who
|> admitted many things regarding Shia faith,
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
as if being of Shia faith is some kind of a crime against
religion.    

I did not ask the political posters to keep their stuff off
s.c.a., because I had gotten used to them.  I also ignore
all the stricly religious postings that show up
from time to time since as some have said Islam is part 
of our culture.  But this was not a simple strictly
religious post.  This was the first post on s.c.a. that 
openly calls the Shi'as as Kuffar.  Even if, the Fatwa was 
simply a theological opinion, would it not be better debated
in soc.culture.islam ?
But debating  Islamic theology was not the goal of
Mr. Abu-Khater, he just wanted to do his duty, and
inform some of us s.c.a. readers that we are not Muslims
in Mr. Albany's opinion.  Mr. Abu-Khater posts the
material then plays innocent and asks me to take
my grievances to Mr. Albany.  Please let it be known,
to Bulbul, Abu-Khater, and all the silent readers
that agree with the analysis of Mr. Albany, that such
an attitude is why we, will never be united.  We are
tribes not a nation, each trying to show the other
one wrong.
I hope in spite of  that, some of our readers
will find time contribute something that is really cultural
and constructive that Iba'a started under the title
"something new", instead of contributing to our continued
decline as a culture.



|> 
|> ** Don't get me wrong if I am acting so distracted,
|>    I'm thinking about the fireworks that come up when you smile.
|>                                                    The Pretenders
|> 

Basil
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