From: nelson@mprgate.mpr.ca (Gary Nelson)
Subject: Re: deja vu?
Organization: MPR Teltech
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 21:59:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.205951.21617@news.iastate.edu>, jrheroni@iastate.edu (John R Heronimus) writes:

|> I've experienced deja vu hundreds of times, and I'm sure everyone else has
|> too.  However, I had never experienced a deja vu where I remembered that the
|> source of my memory was a dream!  I don't want any of you to think that only a
|> few of the images from m|> y dream were in that chemistry room over 3 months
|> later, the whole dream was acted out right before my eye's.  Even the
|> instructor was the same guy who was in my dream...he was new that year.  Has
|> anyone else ever had an experience like this..

I have, several times (some of which I would like to discount).

They tend to be snippets of reality, 5 - 20 seconds long,
that fit between completely unrelated dreams. To date,
the shortest time between the dream and the incident
has been two weeks, the longest about three months.

The first was very hazy, almost out of focus. But I could tell what
was around me [fireplace with fire going, someone on my right just
out of my line of sight, doorway to the right with a picture above it
and light coming thru the door. There was also a type of window
beside the door leading onto the same room. Then the person I couldn't
see thre SOMETHING in front of me and into something at my feet.

I remembered it because it did not fit AT ALL with the dreams I had
that night, which were quite vivid as usual. I thought it was a bit
strange, ESPECIALLY being un-focused, but nothing more.

Three months later, that exact event happened (but clearer of course).
I was helping cook for a Scout leader training camp and we had a
huge box of cookies we pigged out on after the other went to bed.
I grabbed the box of cookies and went into the dining hall and
sat in front of the fireplace. A friend sat beside me, to the right.
I handed him some cookies but he was stuffed, so he threw them back into the
box at my feet... [Click][Click][Click] I was looking down a bit, but
everything that I dreamed about was there, just clearer. The doorway into
the kitchen, a picture of Baden Powell above it, cafeteria-style window
beside it.

Not so exciting, perhaps, but interesting.

I have had many more since that time [1983], and each time the
dream is more and more vivid and focused.

NOT that I anticipate that a particular dream will happen. It is just 
interesting when IT DOES.

Pretty innocuous, boring snippets, too.

But what scared the HELL out of me were a pair of dream snippets that
happened before/occurred during my trip to Australia and Fiji.

The detail is not important, boring stuff, BUT
the bizarre circumstances that led me to each instance
made me wonder a LOT about pre-destiny...

I would prefer to forget that they happened. To do otherwise
would be to admit to something that I don't feel comfortable with...

(I haven't noticed any since that time. Perhaps it scared me too much!)

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