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From: matth@microsoft.com (Matthew Hillman)
Subject: Re: Elizabeth Hand
Date: 07 Oct 92 21:34:09 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <6OCT92.15405284@uwpg02.uwinnipeg.ca> nmlrc@uwpg02.uwinnipeg.ca writes:
>Has anyone out there read Elizabeth Hand? (Is this to general a question?)
>I have been following the newsgroup for a month and have seen no
>

I just read _Aestival Tide_, and thought it was fantastic.  I liked 
_Winterlong_ as well, though I found it harder going; the story sometimes
got bogged down in the incredibly rich language and imagery.  I thought
_Aestival Tide_ was more balanced, with both a compelling plot and beautiful
writing and imagery.

The only book I've read that was similar to Hand's was _Views from the
Oldest House_ by Richard Grant, also very good.  I haven't read anything
else by Grant (yet).  I believe he and Elizabeth Hand are a couple.

>Miriam Unruh

Matt Hillman
matth@microsoft.com

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From: jhildeb1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Subject: Re: Next Rama Book
Reply-To: hildebra@math.wisc.edu (Jeff Hildebrand)
Organization: Don's Merry Horde of Topologists
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:25:39 GMT

kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
> In the end of the paperback version it mentions Rama Revealed and states
> it's coming out in fall of '93.  (I don't have it with me, but I'm pretty
> sure of the '93 part anyway :)

	Well it's not listed in Locus list of books to be release between
now and next June so fall '93 would probably be a good guess. Certainly not
earlier. (Well ok, maybe late summer '93 :)

-Jeff
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From: altam@ocf.berkeley.edu (Allen Tam)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Tailchaser's Song
Date: 14 Oct 1992 20:34:06 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

I, too, thought this was a good read, and like one of the blurbs inside, a 
must for any cat lover.  But it did seem to me a little too much like
_Watership Down_.  For example, the colony of evil cats parallels the nasty
rabbits in Watership.  Also, the tales of Lord Firefoot (?) and history of 
the cats resembled the hero in the rabbits' legends.

Another thing that kind of bothered me was the scene where Tailchaser
was brought to that Jabba the Hut evil cat-god.  The image of all those 
animals pierced through and just writhing on various spikes was just a 
little over the top, IMO.


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From: novak@wri.com (John M. Novak)
Subject: Re: Saber and Shadow... (* SPOILERS *)
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:33:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.214235.20214@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
writes:
>"Saber and Shadow", by Stirling and Meier, is out.  As is typical of Baen,
>it does *not* have a little warning along the lines of "a substantively
>identical version of this book was published as The Sharpest Edge, back
>when sales weren't as good."
I was disappointed by this too, but I was expecting it ever since the re-issue
of Snowbrother (again, with the warning missing...)

>As near as I could tell from a short inspection, this version
>differs from the original primarily in that it has an extra introductory
>chapter at the beginning and a pile of appendices at the end.  (The
>Sharpest Edge begins with Megan, who has been in the swamp, coming into
>an inn looking for a bath.  The new chapter tells us how she got *into*
>the swamp.  I suspect that chapter got edited out the first time.)
Other variations are spread throughout the book; one of the most noticable is
that the bulk of the sex scenes were eliminated (and a new one added towards
the end.)  This actually fits better with Megan's character, I think; but it
grated on me, since I have read "The Sharpest Edge" many, many times... a
number of other lines were changed to reflect the difference in how their
relationship developed.
Also, one odd spot, maybe someone can tell me what happened here: in "The
Sharpest Edge", Sh'kaira still has her pistol when they reach the candy
factory.  In "Saber and Shadow", there is some comment made as they are about
to take off about the pistol having been stolen; yet I didn't see anything
about that earlier.  First time I've seen a re-write *add* a discrepancy, for
no apparent reason..

The added essays at the end had some interesting background, well worth it for
learning a bit about how the stories were developed.

Now that all of the old Fifth Millenium books have been re-released, we can
maybe look forward to new ones!!
--John Novak
novak@wri.com

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From: ciar04@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Next Eddings's Ellenium novel is out in U.K.
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:23:47 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Oct16.094656.4058@techmpc.csg.mot.com>, daves@techmpc.csg.mot.com (Dave Schmitt) writes:
> In article <digdug.719089127@vincent2.iastate.edu> digdug@iastate.edu (Doug V Tran) writes:
>>BTW: has Edding released any follow up books to the "Ellenium" yet?
> 
> I was in Scotland this past week and the next Ellenium book is out.  I don't
> remember the title, but it was set in the Tamul (Tamuli?) empire, with
> the mighty Sparhawk called on for help when supernatural forces threaten.
> 
> (I would have bought it, but with exchange rates it worked out to US$ 30
> for the hardcover, so I can wait).

The follow-up series to the Elenium is the the Tamuli.  The title of
the first book is (I think) Domes of Fire.

With the pound dropping in value, perhaps you should consider buying it now.

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From: jmsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY MARTIN SMITH)
Subject: Re: QL: Where'd he leap from?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:56:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.145700.18336@ncsu.edu>, jmsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (JEFFREY MARTIN SMITH) writes:
|> 
|> If I remember right, That leap was from the end of "The Leap Home" Part 1.
|> Sam is leaping out of himself at age 16.
|> 
|> L8er,
|> Jeff
|> -- 
|> Romana: "I thought you said we were coming here for May Week?"
|> Doctor: "I did, May Week's in June."
|>                                  --Shada and The Five Doctors--
|> Jeffrey Smith     -<KD4AYH>-       jmsmith@eos.ncsu.edu

After just watching the promo again last-night, I didn't noticed that they had
changed it but They have, it is no longer "The Leap Home".

L8er,
Jeff  
-- 
Romana: "I thought you said we were coming here for May Week?"
Doctor: "I did, May Week's in June."
                                 --Shada and The Five Doctors--
Jeffrey Smith     -<KD4AYH>-       jmsmith@eos.ncsu.edu
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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap?
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:07:26 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

kimes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Kit Kimes) writes:

>This brings up another question about groups.  I know that alt.tv.???
>are easier to create than rec.tv.??? but what constitutes a duely
>created alternate group?  

    Well, that is an interesting question. Basically what you need to do
is make the proposal in alt.config, talk about for a while and as long
as no one objects too strongly you (or someone who knows how) can
usually create an alt.* group in about a week.

>The reason I asked is because our news server serves a lot of Bell Labs
>locations and carries most of the groups (both regular and alt.), but
>every once in a while, I hear of a group that we don't get and I have
>not seen mentioned before.  Do some get created and just carried
>locally?  I am specifically thinking of alt.tv.dinosaurs that was
>mentioned lately.  Here is the list of alt.tv.??? that we get:

    The groups carried at any site, is denepenon only on the what that
particular site's administrator feels like carrying. Here at Dartmouth
we carry basically everything, so it really isn't that much of a problem
for us.
    For comparison sake, these are the alt.tv.* groups that are carried
at Dartmouth.

alt.tv.muppets
alt.tv.prisoner
alt.tv.simpsons
alt.tv.tiny-toon
alt.tv.twin-peaks
alt.tv.antagonists 
alt.tv.mst3k 
alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy 
alt.tv.simpsons.itchy-scratchy 
alt.tv.la-law 
alt.tv.red-dwarf 
alt.tv.seinfeld 
alt.tv.90210 
alt.tv.fifteen 
alt.tv.melrose-place 
alt.tv.northern-exp

--
-Hades (Brian V. Hughes) 
  "I'm sorry, I didn't have my hearing aid on. Could you repeat that?"
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From: mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark A. Holtz)
Subject: QL: Lets have a poll on theme song
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 05:02:10 GMT

Okay, okay, let's conduct a e-mail vote on the theme song. If some
saint is willing to set up e-mail boxes, let's vote to see which
theme song the net leapers like.

BTW: Don't look at me about conducting this poll. I learned my
lesson from conducting the vote to create
rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap.
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From: arkhive@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Ailsa Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL 10/6
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:00:16 GMT
Organization: QLA - Quantum Leap Anonymous


In article <uHccsB4w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:
 
> Kiki said that Sam's lifeline was almost big enough for too people.
> She was wrong, his lifeline must look like the Gordian Knot. :)

It might have looked like the Gordian Knot, or it might look like many
other things. Have you read "Leaps in the history of loops, or the loopy
history of leaps"? aka Loopy Leaps, my polemical treatise on the history of
the loop and it's visualisation with reference to Drs Beckett and LoNegro's
superstring theory of quantum leaping. (If not, why not?!). It is available
by ftp from ql-archive@ziggy.3com.com.

____________________________________________________________________ 
Ailsa R Jenkins (arkhive@apusapus.demon.co.uk) 134 Frankland Road, 
Croxley Green, RICKMANSWORTH, Herts, WD3 3AU, UK

`I got me a mirror, and looked at my face and said, "Ain't life a bitch."'
    Ted Klausterman in "3 Guys Naked from the Waist Down"

 Gun till do cheum, as gach cearn, fo rionnag-iuil an dachaidh.
From: dand@SEAS4.MDC.COM (Dan Dassow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: (none)
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:17:46 GMT

The following appeared on page 1 section D of USA Today 30 October 1992:

MALL TREK: Fans of Star Trek: The Next Generation will soon find their
senses on stun.  Next year, portions of shopping malls across the USA
will be transported into virtual reality entertainment centers that will
recreate the bridge, transporter room, holodeck and other hallowed parts
of the famed starship.  The enterprise -- launched by St. Louis-based
mall giants, Edison Brothers Entertainment Inc.  -- will make it so
visitors can play games, portray Next Generation characters, even eat
and shop on the starship.

I contacted Edison Brother's Entertainment.  They told me that the first
location had not been chosen and is currently under study.  The first
location will be chosen before the end of the year.  Specifics about the 
design of the "entertainment center" are also under study.  Anyone
wishing to learn more about this can write to Edison Brother's
Entertainment at the following address:

    Starbase 1
c/o Edison Brother's Stores
    501 N. Broadway
    St. Louis, MO 633102

Daniel Dassow
dand@seas4.mdc.com
From: techy@iastate.edu (Technobabblonian)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: b5 list update...
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:41:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw898I.298
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

I received the follwing errors while mailing out the first post to the
b5 mail list:


421 remus.rutgers.edu.tcp... Deferred: Host is unreachable
550 chdasic.spc.mot.com.tcp... 550 Host unknown
550 vickirey@chdasic.spc.mot.com... Host unknown
550 srdc.com.tcp... 550 Host unknown
550 wgbarnes@srdc.com... Host unknown
550 fssun2.iastate.edu.tcp... 550 Host unknown
550 rothe@fssun2.iastate.edu... Host unknown
451 jharris@libra.afsoc.af.mil... reply: read error
451 jharris@libra.afsoc.af.mil... reply: read error
421 seattleu.edu.tcp... Deferred: Connection timed out during user open with sumax.seattleu.edu
550 orionsci.iastate.edu.tcp... 550 Host unknown
550 goodwin@orionsci... Host unknown
>>> RCPT To:<fhowarda@us.oracle.com>
<<< 550 <fhowarda@us.oracle.com>... User unknown
550 fhowarda@us.oracle.com... User unknown
550 isuvms.iastate.edu.tcp... 550 Host unknown
550 RON%LTUVAX.BITNET@isuvms.iastate.edu... Host unknown

Other errors:
LAAAA443@BLEKIL110 - can't figure out address
sample3d@everclear.berkely.edu host error
dpatows@vtssi.vt.edu - unknown user

Would the people on this list PLEASE email me with their CORRECT addresses?
I apologize for the inconvenience.
-- 
-Troy Rutter        |"The future, always so clear to me had become like
Iowa State Univ.    |a black highway at night.  We were in uncharted
Project Vincent     |territory now, making up future as we went along."-SC
"The future's not set, there's no fate but what we make for ourselves."
From: mossingh@henri.ma.utexas.edu (Mike Mossinghoff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: New Twilight Zone Request
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:28:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: math.1992Oct15.152829.7190
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Texas at Austin Mathematics

Does anyone have an episode guide to the New Twilight Zone TV series that
first aired in 86 or so?  Please mail me a copy if you do.  I've recently
started watching the reruns, and I'd like to know how many shows/stories
were made.

If no one can help me with this, I suppose I'll have to start searching for
Wong's Lost and Found Emporium.

 -- Mike
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Favorite Foods:  Chitlins Con Carne and UFO TOFU
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Subject: Re: QL: Two-Faced Reviews: Nowhere to Run
From: jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:18:37 GMT
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Nntp-Posting-User: heszar

In article <1992Oct7.100625.5988@grebyn.com>, billones@grebyn.com (Jeremy Billones) writes:
> 
> Spoilers for the 10/6 episode "Nowhere to Run"
> 
> 
> 
> Also noticeably absent was most of the heavy-handed moralization you'd
> expect in an episode about disabled vets.  

I disagree here, I felt like I was (pleasantly?) hit on the head with anti-war
propaganda.

>                                            While Al's speech was nice,
> they turned what should have been an explosive confrontation at the bar
> into a spilled coffee cup.  

I don't need more anti-vet sentiment, I think scaring the bejeezus out of the
flower child was very effective.

What WAS missing is something about the right to die, and quality of life. The
roommate (Billy?) seemed better off than some I have met -- he could operate
the electric wheelchair by leaning, rather than a straw or chin control.  From
the look of it, someone like that could actually regain some arm use with
extensive therapy.  Maybe, maybe not.

However, his quality of life still is very poor.  He would not be able to live
without constant support.  Does he have the right to die?  Whoever's upstairs
didn't think so.

Joel
-- 
jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
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From: c150-ff@po.berkeley.edu (Christopher Chan)
Subject: SF channel cartoons
Followup-To: someone who asked
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:33:39 GMT

I live on the west coast so all times are Pacific time.  I do not know if they
show different cartoons on different days like the USA channel does.

	Thursday morning:

	4 a.m.  Transformers
	4:30 a.m. Defenders of the Earth (or something like that)
	5 a.m.   ???????
	5:30 a.m. Stingray

	Hope this helps!

	Chris Chan


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From: mas@calmasd.Prime.COM (Marisa SorBello)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Leaping w/o Net Question
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:59:42 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Oct14.094332.59691@cc.usu.edu> sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne) writes:
>This question pertains the the episode shown on Tuesday, Oct. 13 on USA
>(Leaping in Without a Net):  towards the end of the episode, when Sam
>and Eva are finally Doing It (the Triple, people.  Some people's minds--

As much as I enjoyed this episode, it brought to mind one of my
pet peeves about TV, which is telling the audience that the char-
acters are of a certain ethnicity, but then making no attempt to
make it believable.  NO Hungarian would EVER pronounce Eva with a
long E sound -- it is always prounounced as Ava (like in Gardner),
though spelled Eva.   And those accents didn't even come close to
approximating Hungarian.  (Not to mention the name -- Panzini?
That's most definitely not Hungarian.)  I see this all the time,
but I think better attempts are made to be a little more accurate
with more familiar ethnic origins/accents, like German, French
(although this is usually pretty pathetic), Italian, and Spanish.
I guess the producers figure that not too many people would know
what a Hungarian accent sounds like, so why make even a tiny,
little attempt at authenticity?  A Hungarian girl calling her
mother "mama" -- now, really!

The pronunciation of Eva's name bugged me every time I heard it;
would it really have been that difficult to call the Hungarian
consulate and ask a simple question or two?

OK, off my soapbox.

-- Marisa
From: ad_bibby@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Strange Attractor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Battlestar Galactica: Conclusion?
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:52:58 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

I thought they DID reach earth, but when they did, most of the original cast
had died off, so it was crap.  
There was a whole series abou the new crew trying to integrate with our society
without getting spotted and shot down by the USA.

Honest.
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Highlander: The Series
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:08:36 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <16009@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.230024.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>>(As an ex-fencer) I thought all the sword fighting was pretty silly...
>
>>If either of them had done that "cute" little spin move against me...they'd
>>be DEAD!
>
>Well, they *ARE* immortal... anything you could do short of cutting off
>their head wouldn't make much difference.  A blow through the heart would
>probably only slow them down for a moment, and even if you were able to
>chop off the odd arm or leg it wouldn't be worse than a flesh wound.

Yes, they're immortal.  But they're not invulnerable.  Look at it
this way:  you're an immortal, fighting with another one.  He does
the spin thing.  You use this opportunity to stick your sword in
his heart.  He doesn't heal right away.  He's wounded, and in no
condition to fight back or run away.  Easy pickings.  *Chop!*
You cut off his head.  One less immortal to worry about.
All you really need is them to slow down for a moment, and you
can kill them rather easily.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: ngp@st-andrews.ac.uk (Neil Grant Piggot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Prisoner
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:36:37 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

Can anyone please tell me what the white spheres which act as guards in the
TV series "The Prisoner" starring Patrick McGoohan are called?
Thanks in advance, please e-mail me the answer.

Neil Piggot						ngp@uk.ac.st-and
From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL 10/6
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:40:17 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Kiki said that Sam's lifeline was almost big enough for too people.
She was wrong, his lifeline must look like the Gordian Knot. :)






BTW, in the end when Kiki said "It was almost perfect" did anyone else 
think she might have been the evil leaper?


Dascoser
From: dkrause@miami.acs.uci.edu (Doug Krause)
Subject: Re: QL is bogus!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:29:13 GMT

In article <larne.03e6@canetoad.UUCP> larne@canetoad.UUCP (Larne Pekowsky) writes:
#Why?  The leaps are _not_ instantaneous, there may be a gap of several
#weeks between the time Sam leaps out of one situation and into another
#(ref: "Genesis").  What happens during that time is completely unknown.

"Double Identity".

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