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From: tcox@netcom.com (Thomas Cox)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Fire extinguishers (was: Re: Why do people like spicy-hot food?)
Date: 31 Aug 92 00:29:47 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

[]
   A discussion of how to soothe the palate after eating spicy-hot food.

In article <4859@rosie.NeXT.COM> Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer) writes:
>In article <71637@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>] sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:
>] >Raymond@Newton.Apple.Com (Lenny) writes:

>] >>I too can stand very hot food, but occasionally I eat something beyond my
>] >>tolerance.  A neat trick I do to cut the heat is to put sugar on my
>] >>tongue and let it sit there for a minute.  It works much better than
>] >>drinking water.

	Nearly anything will work better than water.  See below.

>] >white bread does the same job too, [...]

>] In the New Yorker magazine's review [...]
>] [...] the author claimed that drinking Coke was the best way [...]

> [...] I have a cookbook which recommends yogurt.  [...]

	Silly people.  Spices all have this in common:  they are
	symmetric molecules.  Know what that means?  It means they are
	oil-soluble but not water-soluble.  Remember how oil and water
	don't mix?  Spices and water don't mix either.

	So when your tongue has spicy stuff on it, drinking water is
	nearly useless.  Anything that will absorb oil (white bread)
	or that will mix with oil (beer, milk, Coke, yogurt, etc.)
	will do the trick.

	[This answer paraphrased from Cecil Adams' book _The Straight
	Dope_.]

	Cheers.

		-- Tom
-- 
Tom Cox      DoD #1776   '91 CB 750 Nighthawk   tcox@netcom.netcom.com
Yeah, I have a day job.  They don't believe me any more than you do.
From: JWB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Mutton
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:41:44 GMT
 <92244.160533RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> <1992Sep1.172057.22967@adobe.com>
 <1992Sep1.235645.22302@cirrus.com> <khaw.715418283@parcplace.com>
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Distribution: ba
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <65140@cup.portal.com>, dbell@cup.portal.com (David J Bell) says:
>
>>>>The mutton taste (which for some reason always reminds me of
>>>>old sweat socks) was *very* strong.  My wife (who is a lamb fancier)
>agreed.
>
>>>That is how lamb is eaten in India...and it is called mutton. So at least
>>>they were authentic ;-).
>
>Michael Khaw adds:
>
MUCH DELETED

>Great!  Now, where in the Bay Area do we find even wimpy, California
>style mutton??? I've always loved lamb, even very old and strongly
>flavored lanb; I've had absolutely *wonderful* roast/BBQ mutton
>in Kentucky, but out here, I can't even find it in large full service
>butcher shops...
>
>Dave
>dbell@cup.portal.com

I have found mutton (sold as such) in the QFI market on Broadway near
Woodside Rd. in Redwood City. It was stronger then the lamb I usually
buy, but it worked just fine in the curry I put it in. Hope this is
of some help.

J. Beach                    Just my opinion as if anyone cares.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jfouts@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Jeanne Fouts ACF)
Subject: Counting Calories
Followup-To: ba.food 
Keywords: Calorie counting
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:00:19 GMT

   Being one of those people who is seriously trying to get rid of 40
extra pounds I don't like ordering what I think should be a low-calorie
item only to have it arrive smothered in mayonnaise. I am looking for a 
place that lets you know how good/bad a particular item in the menu is. 
   I am tired of going only to junk food places because I know which 
items are around 300 calories.
   Places like Cafe Salsa and Macheesmo Mouse have the calorie counts for 
their dishes so one can decided which ones fall into the catagory I am 
looking for. Where are some other good places around Mountain View or
Palo Alto where a dieter can go and still stay with their diet?

Jeanne Fouts
From: ted@airplane.sharebase.com (Ted Marshall)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Isobune & Sushi A
Keywords: sushi
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:01:31 GMT
Reply-To: ted@airplane.sharebase.com (Ted Marshall)
Distribution: ba
Organization: NCR/ShareBase Corporation

I have received a request to post the location of the Burlingame
Isobune. It is on Burlingame Ave, 1/2 block west of El Camino Real.
It's right next door to Burger King :-(.

-- 
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NCR Corp. (ShareBase Div.)             2055A Logic Dr., San Jose, CA 95124
The opinions expressed above are those of the poster and not his employer.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jojo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanne Spetz)
Subject: Re: Three great meals under $5
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:05:13 GMT
From: cnc@Apple.COM (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three great meals under $5)
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:20:00 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

No list of good burito joints would be complete without
Pollo's on Grant road by El Camino in Mountain View. There Pollo Burito is good!

Taqueria La Bamba is still my favorite.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: kevin@cadence.com (Kevin Osinski)
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
	<1992Aug18.194416.7957@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 12:57:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.194416.7957@leland.Stanford.EDU> jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:

	   I suspect there is no relation between the Whole Foods Market that
   you went to in Houston and the Whole Foods market on Emerson in Palo Alto,
   but you might want to check it out anyway.


Actually, I believe they are run by the same company.  I got a flyer
in the Palo Alto Weekly a while ago from the Whole Foods Market, in
which they listed all their stores:  two or three in Northern
California, and the rest in Texas.  

They are a good "whole foods" store (surprise!), but the prices are a
bit high.  Meats, produce, and dairy are excellent quality, and the
deli and bakery sections are top-notch too.  They don't have a very
wide selection, though -- if you're looking for high-end and
hard-to-find as opposed to whole and healthy, you may be disappointed. 

Whenever I visit I always make a point of stopping my the medicinal
herbs / macrobiotic section and checking out what interesting new
stuff they have on display.  Their aromatherapy products are ususally
a kick.

Good luck,

Kevin
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From: maslak@unix.SRI.COM (Valerie Maslak)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Counting Calories
Keywords: Calorie counting
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:21:58 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

The Fresh Choice salad bar etc. chain puts a little heart next to
those items that meet the American Heart Association guidelines.
That doen't tell you the calorie count, but it assures you of
low-fat, low-sodium, which is most of the problem anyway.

I think several other places do this also.

Theo's restaurant, a very, very nice grill on University Avenue in
downtown Palo Alto, has a complete low-fat diet menu. Excellent
food. Emphasis on fish.

Valerie Maslak
From: js@minos.nmt.edu (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Savera, and nine Indian places ranked
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:18:24 GMT

I feel a little gun-shy about posting any more Indian food
reviews, but since you asked....

I tried Savera (formerly Vindu) a couple times since they
changed hands.  I thought Vindu was average.  Savera is
a bit better.  They have the longest menu around, all
the northern Indian standards and a fair number of southern
dishes too (they make okay masala dosas).  Prices are
average.

Here is how I would rate the Indian restaurants I've tried.
Ratings are mostly on food, but to a lesser degree on value
and service and do not consider atmosphere or location.
All ratings are HIGHLY subjective.  Your mileage may vary.

3.5 stars: Empress of India.

3 stars: Le Tandoor (Los Altos), Tandoor (on Sunnyvale-
Saratoga near Rainbow), Sue's (but only her vindaloo).

2.5 stars: Savera, Passage to India.

2 stars: Taj Mahal (Stevens Creek near Lawrence), Sue's
other food (but it's overpriced), Pasand (Sunnyvale),
India Cookhouse (I didn't get the roach curry, though).

Just for reference, I don't often give out 4 stars (so far,
only Lion & Compass and Chez TJ); 3.5 stars means
consistently impressive (Birk's, Scott's, Piccolo Mondo) but
not really transcendentally overwhelming; 3 stars means
pretty good; 2 stars means average to ho-hum.

John Shipman, fallible human (john@nmt.edu)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: doctor@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Terry Fong)
Subject: Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three great meals under $5)
Summary: the Oakland/Berkeley $0.02
Keywords: burritos, oakland, berkeley
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:04:01 GMT

Just to throw in my 2 cents... My two favorite burrito places in the
Oakland/Berkeley area are:

The Burrito Shop (aka "College Avenue Burritos"), actually has 4
locations (5359 College Avenue, Oakland. 3843 Castro Valley Blvd,
Castro Valley. 20500 Hesperian, Hayward. and 3256 Lakeshore Ave.,
Oakland). They make the absolute best veggie burritos around (sorry La
Costena) with lots of cilantro tomatoes, cheddar, whole pintos, and
rice. Whole wheat tortilla optional.

Cactus Tacqueria (near Rockridge BART on College Avenue, Oakland).
Really good Pollo Verde and Pollo Asado (the Vegetables Asado is
pretty good as well) for $3.25 including lots of chips. Almost as good
as Pollo's in Mt. View!

-Terry

P.S. Can anyone REALLY eat an ENTIRE burrito from La Bamba alone...

P.P.S. La Bamba has a sister store in Richmond or San Pablo (on San
Pablo Ave, Rt-123).

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From: dbell@cup.portal.com (David J Bell)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Vietnamese coffee
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 21:04:44 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba


>	Yet another variation, what about Vietnamese coffee?  I've
>always love iced cold Vitenamese coffee that you get from those small
>noodle places.  Any ideas on how to make it at home?

>								Curtz
>Internet: curtz@lia.com


The best way I know of getting there is to buy one (or several) of
the little one-cup drip makers *used* in the VN restaurants! They
can be found in many larger Asian markets, expecially those with
a large Vietnamese clientele, of course... I use a fine-ground
French Roast or Espresso blend.

Dave
dbell@cup.portal.com
From: js@minos.nmt.edu (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Savera (Vindu), and rankings of 9 Indian places
Date: 30 Aug 92 04:48:29 GMT

I feel a little gun-shy about posting any more Indian food
reviews, but since you asked....

I tried Savera (formerly Vindu) a couple times since they
changed hands.  I thought Vindu was average.  Savera is
a bit better.  They have the longest menu around, all
the northern Indian standards and a fair number of southern
dishes too (they make okay masala dosas).  Prices are
average.

Here is how I would rate the Indian restaurants I've tried.
Ratings are mostly on food, but to a lesser degree on value
and service and do not consider atmosphere or location.
All ratings are HIGHLY subjective.  Your mileage may vary.

3.5 stars: Empress of India.

3 stars: Le Tandoor (Los Altos), Tandoor (on Sunnyvale-
Saratoga near Rainbow), Sue's (but only her vindaloo).

2.5 stars: Savera, Passage to India.

2 stars: Taj Mahal (Stevens Creek near Lawrence), Sue's
other food (but it's overpriced), Pasand (Sunnyvale),
India Cookhouse (I didn't get the roach curry, though).

Just for reference, I don't often give out 4 stars (so far,
only Lion & Compass and Chez TJ); 3.5 stars means
consistently impressive (Birk's, Scott's, Piccolo Mondo) but
not really transcendentally overwhelming; 3 stars means
pretty good; 2 stars means average to ho-hum.

John Shipman, fallible human (john@nmt.edu)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: HF.CAR@forsythe.stanford.edu (CHRISTIAN ROWCLIFFE)
Subject: Re: Mutton dressed as Lamb
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:02:01 GMT

I was under the impression that lamb is, well, lamb, and mutton is
grownup lamb (sheep).  Mutton is supposed to have a much stronger
flavour than lamb, from what I have been told.

Christian


Newsgroups: ba.food
From: zstern@adobe.com (Zalman Stern)
Subject: Re: Counting Calories
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:29:21 GMT

In article <38223@unix.SRI.COM> maslak@unix.SRI.COM (Valerie Maslak) writes:
> The Fresh Choice salad bar etc. chain puts a little heart next to
> those items that meet the American Heart Association guidelines.
> That doen't tell you the calorie count, but it assures you of
> low-fat, low-sodium, which is most of the problem anyway.
Fresh Choice has a phamplet that gives extensive nutritional breakdowns of  
everything they serve. (Including calories, fat, cholesterol, sodium,  
etc...) Ask them for one next time you are there. Not that there is any  
point in my looking at such a document. I'm a believer in the two plate  
school of salad bar technique.
--
Zalman Stern		   zalman@adobe.com		    (415) 962 3824
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
  "Yeah. Ask 'em if they'll upgrade my shifters too." Bill Watterson
Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.food.drink
From: amdease@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Ann Dease)
Subject: Wine bars/tasting sessions
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:18:14 GMT


Thanks to all the people who responded to my request for information
about wine bars and tasting sessions in the bay area.  The following is
a summary of responses.

Cava 555, San Francisco
Pacific Wine Co, SF 800-464-5202
Taster's Guild, SF 415-921-6300 (Silicon Valley area 408-257-6473)
Complements, SF 415-777-0433
London Wine Bar, SF 415-788-4811
Solano Cellars, Berkeley
Vino, Berkeley
Mirassou Champagne Cellars (Los Gatos area)
Congress Springs (Gilroy area)
UC Berkeley Extension (usually offers wine appreciation classes quarterly)
SRO, SF

I haven't had a chance yet to try any of these recommendations but intend
to do so very soon.

Thanks again.

Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.food.restaurants
From: tmartin@nyx.cs.du.edu (Thomas Martin)
Subject: San Gabriel, CA
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 00:31:52 GMT


	Greetings all, I'm heading out to California this weekend and hope to
go to a Japanese restaurant that I went to in 1989. The restaurant is
called Tokyo Lobby and it's (was) in San Gabriel.

	Is it still there and the food still excellent (and
inexpensive) or will I have to go to a Bob's Big Boys? <grin> Thanks in
advance!

Thomas Martin
From: hubertc@cs.berkeley.edu (Hung-Hsien (Hubert) Chang)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Good pies and tar
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:37:14 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.


Hi! I would like to know what other places have good pies or tar besides
Cafe Milian and Cafe Strada around the Berkeley Campus. 
The fruit tar  of Strada is great!
From: reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp (Reza Naima)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Thai,   Mexican
Date: 28 Aug 92 03:09:00 GMT
Reply-To: reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp (Reza Naima)
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591


  I must say that Thai food is my favorite, and I am always on the search 
for new Thai restaurants to try.  The best one to date I have found in SF 
near broadway (not on broadway). I'm not sure where it is exactly but it 
looks like this :

=================================
   Broadway
=========     ===================
        \     \
        \     \
       *\     \
        *\     \
          \     \
          \      \        XXXX
           \     \        XXXX
============      =================
don't know street name
===================================

** - The paladium is located here
XX - the thai restauraunt on the second floor


  Sorry that my description had to be so vague.  If anyone knows where I'm 
talking about, I'de apreciate hearing from you.  Also, you you please post 
or email me your favorite thai restaurant?


   I'de also like to add that although the New Mecca Cafe isn't the 
prettiest mexican restaurant i've seen, it's got the best tasting food, 
and most resonably priced too.  The place is in Pittsburg at the end of 
Railraoad road/ave?  on the left towards the waterfront area.  It's really 
worth the drive to try the place!

Reza
reza.naima@uttsbbs.uucp


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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: lattanzi@wsl.dec.com (Len Lattanzi)
Subject: Re: Fire extinguishers (was: Re: Why do people like spicy-hot food?)
Organization: Western Software Lab
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 05:11:52 GMT

In article <48gnpdk.tcox@netcom.com> tcox@netcom.com (Thomas Cox) writes:
:
:	So when your tongue has spicy stuff on it, drinking water is
:	nearly useless.  Anything that will absorb oil (white bread)
:	or that will mix with oil (beer, milk, Coke, yogurt, etc.)
:	will do the trick.
Haven't tried white bread, usually not available at Jing-jing during a
two alarm lunch special. What my family recommended was salt, it's
usually on hand and doesn't spread the spice or corrupt the flavor
like those drinks do. <Or to link these two threads ... use Vietnamese
Iced Coffee to put out spicy Thai taste bud assaults>

-Len
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From: jamies@tartan.csd.sgi.com (Jamie Schein)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Coffee Source (was: The Coffeemaker I bought)
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:24:26 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Aug27.174507.29251@news.arc.nasa.gov>, tony@trident.arc.nasa.gov (Tony Quartuccio) writes:
|> By the way, as for great coffee, I swear by one mail
|> order place:  Gevalia Imports (1-800 GEVALIA).


I have had bad luck with Gevalia by mail.  Didn't seem fresh to me, and the flavor was nothing special. Although I did take advantage of their offer of a small coffee maker for $10 with the purchase of a pound of coffee :-)  

I swear by Graffeo Coffee Roasting Company in North Beach, Columbus Avenue. They have a retail outliet and supply many restaurants in the Bay Area with their 4 choices:  dark or light, caf or decaf.  They do mail order -- 415-986-2420.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: deanna@Cadence.COM (Deanna McCusker)
Subject: Re: Indian or Meat-less (HELP!)
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:18:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.161816.5308@crc.ricoh.com> chilton@crc.ricoh.com (Jeff Chilton) writes:
>
>    I know we did both these recently, but I just wasn't paying
>    attention.  I'd like to take a non-carnivore out for dinner tonight,
>    and indian food sounds perect.  The only problem is, I'm tired of
>    the same old places. (same old = Sue's Kitchen, Mumtaj, India
>    Cockroach House, and Gaylord's of India (Gaylord's is pretty good, but
>    not much meat-less stuff and way expensive).  I also know of (but
>    have not been to) Dahlik's(sp) in Sunnyvale(?).

>    I'd also like to not stray too far, so Mt. View, PA, Los Altos,
>    S'Vale, Menlo etc. area sounds good.

How about Taj India in Sunnyvale.  It's at the corner of
Wolfe and El Camino.  I am also vegetarian and this is my
absolute favorite Indian Restaurant.  Their veg dishes
are spicier than most (although you can ask for mild).

--deanna
deanna@cadence.com
From: js@minos.nmt.edu (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Savera (ex Vindu), nine Indian places ranked
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:02:29 GMT

I feel a little gun-shy about posting any more Indian food
reviews, but since you asked....

I tried Savera (formerly Vindu) a couple times since they
changed hands.  I thought Vindu was average.  Savera is
a bit better.  They have the longest menu around, all
the northern Indian standards and a fair number of southern
dishes too (they make okay masala dosas).  Prices are
average.

Here is how I would rate the Indian restaurants I've tried.
Ratings are mostly on food, but to a lesser degree on value
and service and do not consider atmosphere or location.
All ratings are HIGHLY subjective.  Your mileage may vary.

3.5 stars: Empress of India.

3 stars: Le Tandoor (Los Altos), Tandoor (on Sunnyvale-
Saratoga near Rainbow), Sue's (but only her vindaloo).

2.5 stars: Savera, Passage to India.

2 stars: Taj Mahal (Stevens Creek near Lawrence), Sue's
other food (but it's overpriced), Pasand (Sunnyvale),
India Cookhouse (I didn't get the roach curry, though).

Just for reference, I don't often give out 4 stars (so far,
only Lion & Compass and Chez TJ); 3.5 stars means
consistently impressive (Birk's, Scott's, Piccolo Mondo) but
not really transcendentally overwhelming; 3 stars means
pretty good; 2 stars means average to ho-hum.

John Shipman, fallible human (john@nmt.edu)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: sherwood@adobe.com (Geoffrey Sherwood)
Subject: Wok City Diner
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:33:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.013927.20005@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>
>By the way, I'm going to force my friend Geoff to write up his
>recommendation of Wok City Diner in Fremont -- yum!! Geoff, are you 
>listening?

Yeah, I guess so.  I don't visit a lot of chinese restaurants -- we tend to
find one we like and stick with it.  This was the case with Wok City Diner
(truly horrible name, I know).  We are very fond of the place.  It is located
on Mission Blvd between 680 and 880 (the cut-through between them).  It is
in the shopping center to the northwest quadrant of Warm Springs and Mission.
Across the street (Warm Springs) from Fry's.  There is a grocery store there
(Lucky's, I think, though it might be Safeway), and just to the east of that
(in the same strip building) that you have Wok City Diner.

It is a new place and the decor shows it.  Everything is clean and bright, with
a very comfortable atmosphere.  Chinese decor, but not excessive.  The staff
has been very polite and helpful.  They have a specialty appetizer, chicken
in lettuce cup which is superb.  My wife calls it a chinese taco.  Ughh.  It
is a lettuce leaf (naturally cup-shaped) filled with ground chicken, noodles,
and stuff tossed with plum sauce.  At $2.75 each (minimum order 2) it is not
cheap, but well worth it.  My wife always orders Phoenix chicken, which is
chicken in a brown sauce with vegetables served in a shredded-potato basket
(for those who don't already know).  I find it tasty enough, but I prefer a
bit more zip.  The tangerine beef is good, and is not deep fried like the
orange-peel beef I have had at other restaurants (Lok Chun, for example.  Don't
get me wrong, I love it both ways!!).   The sesame chicken was absolutely
superb.  The waiter said the sesame beef was even better, but I have not tried
it.  The Hunan smoked pork is *very* salty, so be warned.

Well, I'm not much good at reviewing things, so I guess I will just stop
there.  What can I say but we like it?  They are new, so I hope they get
enough business to *stay* in business.
	Geoff Sherwood