HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: R.Collins@newcastle.ac.uk (R. Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: I voted for this group
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:24:40 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.harley
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1992Aug28.064620.3027@ttinews.tti.com>, paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.184932.27295@mtxinu.COM> choke@mtxinu.COM (Sean Gallaty) writes:
>+I voted for this group, even though I ride a Honda CB1100F and have gotten
>+immemorable amounts of shit from Harley riders about it being a rice burner
>
>
>Thank you for your support.  Not all HD riders snipe at other-brand
>owners.  Most of us rode other-brands before we got our Harleys.
>
>See ya on the road!

Yes, but will you wave at him?  ":-)
>
>____________________________________________________________________________
>		You're never too old to become younger
>			-- Mae West
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
>            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA

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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Fork Locks (Re: Dealing with the Dealer)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:22:00 GMT

mtrost@convex.com (Matthew Trost) writes:

>Are the Master locks easy to pick? 

At least some Master locks are absurdly easy to open, you don't even
need a pick, just a pair of shims and the lock is open in about 2
seconds.

>Can you re-key the American locks to do the same thing???...1 key fits
>several locks?

Any decent lock should be able to be re-keyed.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Subject: Restoration questions
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:03:28 GMT

I've got a '48 EL, all original, that I'm planning to restore. It runs, 
shifts gears, etc, so it's all there. How much engine/transmission work dare 
I attempt myself, how much do I send out, who do I send it out to? Do I 
upgrade internals or go for orignal (I'm planning this to be a rider, not a 
show bike). I'm familiar with some parts sources, but don't know much 
about good, honest, reliable, sources for mechanical work. Any comments 
would be welcome, and I'd like to hear from other vintage Harley riders.

 - Steve
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
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From: wfrank@well.sf.ca.us (Wade Franklin)
Subject: Re: somebody 'splain please
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:11:58 GMT


It's amazing how much misinformation has shown up in this newsgroup
during its short lifespan. Please, folks, if you're gonna take it
upon yourself to inform the public, try to check the facts first.

>steve@presto.ig.com writes:
>The Evolution engine started in 1980 on the big twins and 1984 on the
>sportsters.  (this is from memory so correct me if I'm wrong).  The

The Evo (also known as the Blockhead) engine originated in 1984 model
big twins. Some 1984 models still carried the Shovelhead engine.

>carlp@frigg.isc-br.com writes:
>some suspension for comfort.  In 1988 (1989? Girdler doesn't go that
>far) came the FXD Dyna Glide series, starting with another Sturgis
>model.  This brought many frame and engine-parts changes.

The FXD series originated with the '91 limited edition Sturgis. There
were *no* engine-parts changes - all big twins use the same engine,
period. The engine is mounted differently, and they moved the oil tank
and the exhaust crossover, but that's all.

*------------------------------------------------------------------*
* Wade Franklin          HOG #0526523   '92 FXDC DynaGlide Custom  *
* wfrank@well.sf.ca.us   AMA #654883    '86 Yamaha Radian 600      *
*------------------------------------------------------------------*
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From: troeger@sequoia.tti.com (Jeff Troeger)
Subject: Re: Fork Locks (Re: Dealing with the Dealer)
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:47:22 GMT

In article <mtrost.715369899@convex.convex.com> mtrost@convex.com (Matthew Trost) writes:
>In <1992Aug31.170359.21825@hubcap.clemson.edu> wstef@hubcap.clemson.edu (W. Gregg Stefancik) writes:
>
>
>>As a locksmith I recommed that one use something along the lines of an
>>American Lock Company 700 series lock.  These can be purchased at
>>Home Depot for about $15.  They are a rather tough looking lock and
>>fairly difficult to pick.
>
>>I do imagine that most bike thieves just come up to the bike in question and
>>lift it into the back of a truck no rolling required.  In this case they can
>>deal with the lock at their own pace.  Given the time all locks will yield to
>>force.

I believe this was how my first HD was stolen. Had both a fork lock and a case
hardened chain thru the rear wheel and sprocket with massive locks on both, and
I came out one morning and found the whole thing missing (locks and all) so
I figured that a couple of people showed up with a van or something and a 
hoist and just picked the whole mess up. Probably took less than 2 minutes.
After reporting the theft, the Police pretty much confirmed my theory by 
saying that there was a group operating in the area that used a big van (like
the kind the MAC tools guys drive) with a roll-out hoist and it would take
them about 30 seconds to pick up the bike and move on. Had much better luck
with my second one (-:

Jeff Troeger - Senior Member of the Technical Staff
Transaction Technology Inc. - A subsidary of Citicorp
3100 Ocean Park Bl. Santa Monica, Ca. 90405 (213) 450-9111 x3153
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Sportster Belt Drive Failure
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:54:31 GMT
Reply-To: behanna@syl.nj.nec.com
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.harley
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.

In article <Stafford-260892163948@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>Bad stuff
>	Some people cannot resist running giant 3" belts which exacerbate
>	alignment problems and thus can cause unneccessary bearing wear.

	I was at H-D of Edison, NJ, inquiring about belt primaries, and the
guy at the parts counter was trying to steer me to a 3" wide Primo, claiming
that smaller belts slip and break and aren't as durable.  What's the scoop
here?  Can I get away with 1.5" and keep the gear on the clutch hub to
someday add an electric foot?  I intend to stroke the bike eventually, so I
need a system that won't be overloaded when it has to handle lots of power.

Inquiring minds,
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114   1983 Harley-Davidson FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	   (I need another bike for this space!)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Heritage Softail
Organization: Programmers Who Say Ni
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:02:07 GMT

+In a previous article, fdeignan@vax.clarku.edu () says:
+
+>The last time I looked, the Heritage was exactly what I wanted.  What kind
+>of price and options are going on these puppies now?
+
+In June of 1991 I paid $11,775 for my Heritage.  In 1992 they went up
+about $500.  I suspect that 1993 will bring another $500.

That is why HD stands for Hundreds of Dollars.

____________________________________________________________________________
	You're never too old to become younger -- Mae West
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            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
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From: groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh)
Subject: Re: Sportster Belt Drive Failure
Reply-To: groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 13:32:54 GMT

In article <Stafford-260892091152@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>In article <BtK8rs.2nA@cmptrc.lonestar.org>, neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal
>Howard) wrote:
>> 
>> This message is primarily intended for those who own '91 and later
>> Sportsters with the belt drive secondary but probably applies to all
>> belt drive models. [good info specifically regarding the Sportster
>omitted.]
>
>For the record, this is not an inherent problem with belts.  I've been
>running a Karata primary belt on a Big Twin for over 11 years.  No
>problems.
Agreed, I converted both my 89 and 90 sporties to belt drive and both have
over 20k miles on them with 0 maintenance or problems.  So much nicer
then the chains on my other bikes.








--
Jim Groh     groh@sig.cs.fsu.edu  | DoD #0356  |   Hog# 0437643 |new  improved
1959 XLH 900  **  1982 FXR  **  1989 XLH 883  **  1990 XLH 1200 | smaller sig
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: harley memorabilia
Date: 1 Sep 92 07:51:27 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

i know that most harley folks are into household things
like kitchen magnets, so if you ever in venice beach, 
california you can go into the mega-kitchen magnet store
and pick yourself up a nice picture of an indian chief
PowerPlus for your frigidare.  its not too big, so you
don't have to worry about it taking up too much space
and crowding out the pen-dressed-as-an-asparagus or the
micro-in&out_burger replica, yet it has a powerful magnet
able to hold up at least 5 sheets thick of 8.5x11 20# paper.
nb: keept it away from magnetic media.

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: 79 XLH for SALE
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:20:21 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: morpheus.wustl.edu

My neighbour has a 79 XLH sportster for sale,  in excellent condition,
original,  low mileage.  He restores antique vehicles for a living, but this
is something he has been working on in his spare time. Some work on the
clutch bearings was necessary,  and now the whole bike runs beautifully.
He wants $3500 for it,  if anyone is interested, they can get in touch with
me and I will apss them on.
David Maconochie DJM@morpheus.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: wdperry@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: WANTED: 1985 XLS Roadster
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:51:27 GMT


WANTED: 1985 XLS Roadster

I'm looking for a 1985 XLS Roadster in good condition.  If you have one or know
someone with one (and you/they are willing to sell) please contact me.

Thanks,


W.D. Perry
wdperry@ducvax.auburn.edu
wdperry@auducvax.bitnet
(205) 887-5127
Auburn, Alabama
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: fdeignan@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Waving!
Organization: Clark University
Date: 31 AUG 92 03:03:35 GMT

When I rode foreign bikes I always waved to other motorcycle riders ...
didn't matter what brand they rode ... I waved to them because we shared
an interest ... riding motorcycles!

For the past two years I've ridden a Harley ... and I STILL wave to all
the other riders I see on the road ... because we still share an interest ...
riding motorcyles.

Are there THAT many bikes on the road now that we can limit our waving to
only riders whose mounts are the same brand?  I doubt it.

Courtesy is contagious!  Wave to every biker you see pass you on the road
because they're sharing the same experience you are!  They might be on a
Harley, or a Suzuki, or a BMW, but they're still looking at the road over
a pair of handlebars.  And let's not forget that.
From: scol@scottsdale.az.stratus.com (Scott Colbath)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: FLH frame
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:06:32 GMT

In article <Bu0GxF.31y@news.larc.nasa.gov> reno@asdsun.larc.nasa.gov (Shaun  
Reno) writes:
> I recently purchased a FLH frame that I plan to use as the platform for my  
first HD.  The frame seems to be 68-72 vintage.  It will most likely be powered  
by a shovelhead.  Both short and long trips will be put on the bike with my  
girlfriend as a passenger.
> 
> I'm looking for suggestions on a good front end for this frame with comfort  
being a higher priority than performance(both would be nice).  Also does  
anybody know a good source of HD information such as parts interchangability.   
Any help would be appreciated.
> 
> RENO
>   

Look for the book called "What Fits What" It is a small book which covers lots  
of just what the title says, from engines to forks and frames, etc. I don't  
know where to find it but there was a thread on the Harley Digest a while back  
covering this. Anyone out there have the info?

**********************************************************
Scott Colbath
Stratus Computer
Phoenix, Az.  (602)852-3106
Internet:scott_colbath@az.stratus.com
**********************************************************
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Locks (Was: Dealing with the Dealer)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:26:30 GMT

behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.145033.27486@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>>I'd suggest taking a look at the Maxim cable locks. 

>	I have a 3/4"x6' Cobralinks lock.  Coils up about as small as Blaine's
>Maxim lock, but is a bit heavier.

>  Cost about $140 and gives me GREAT piece of mind.

For what it's worth, the Maxim was roughly a hundred bucks cheaper, and
probably 10 pounds lighter. :-)  The Cobralinks do look very impressive,
but I don't know if I'd pack something that heavy around with me. The
plastic coated cable would seem to offer more protection for the bike's
finish than the mesh that covers the Cobralinks. The Maxim uses the same
sort of cylindrical key that the Cobralinks & Kryptonite do, and the
locking mechanism is a pair of steel cylinders in a male-female
configuration that mate end-to-end, and then the lock cylinder is inserted
through a matching set of holes in the two halves. I'd say the lock
portion is at least as impressive as the Cobralinks locking mechanism,
and vastly better than the Kryptonite.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: corun@access.digex.com (Corun MacAnndra)
Subject: My first Harley
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:25:05 GMT

Hello Harley fans.

I'm about to purchase my first Harley, and the first bike I've owned in
more years than I want to think about. The last bike I owned was a BSA 350.
I'm hopin the veterans here can give me some good advice.

I'm looking at three different models, the 883 Hugger, the FXR Super Glide,
and the FXDWG Dyna Wide Glide. These are my choices for the simple reason
that they have a short inseam, and so do I. I like my feet to touch the ground
when I come to a stop.

I'm particularly interested in regular maintenance. What, and how often (gas
I know). The exotic oil types for the BSA used to screw me up all the time,
but I was also much younger and didn't understand mechanics as well.

I also may be taking it on long rides, four to six hours duration. The guy
at the dealership steered me away from the Hugger. He did point me to the
Soft Tail, but I'm not sure I like the rear shock arrangement. Also, I think
I really like the idea of the rubber mounted engine. A long haul can be a
real kidney buster on a frame mount, or so I'm told. The FXR and FXDWG both
have this.

So, any opinions (yeah, right), and suggestions? Thanks in advance for the
help. Hopefully I'll soon be joining the ranks of the happy Harley owner.

Corun

P.S. I'm taking that MC Safety course too. That's on the list before I
even get a demo ride.



-- 
===========================================================================
    Corun MacAnndra     |  The great thing about travel is getting to
  Dark Horde by birth   |   meet new people and see new places.
    Moritu by choice    |                            G. Khan
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: I want one!
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:10:05 GMT

bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker) writes:

>In article <txd.714759677@Able.MKT.3Com.Com>, txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
>> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker) writes:
>>>[and no snide remarks from you fatboys!]
>> Careful...

>very...

Not enough... 

>> 
>> **********************************************************************
>>                                Tom Dietrich  
>> 			   '72 1000cc Sportster
>>                     "Get on your bad motorscooter and ride!"
>>                                                    R. Montrose
>> e-mail txd@Able.MKT.3Com.COM                    Ma Bell (408) 738-8301
>> **********************************************************************

>tom's sportster is customized for that *bad motorscooter* look.  so
>is his .sig: he also has a pink SUZUKI concours which seems to have been
>left out because it might tarnish his image in these here parts.

These folks are used to this .sig... You know who makes my Concours,
and the only thing about it that resembles a bumblebee is those things
splattered all over the faring. Your bike, on the other hand very much
resembles a bumblebee. 


*********************************************************************
'86 Concours.....Sophisticated Lady            Tom Dietrich             
'72 1000cc Sportster.....'Ol Sport               DoD # 055
^^^^^^^^^^^It *LIVES*!^^^^^^^^^^^^              AMA #524245
                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
Two Jousts and a Gather, *BIG fun!*            (H. Lewis)
e-mail txd@Able.MKT.3Com.COM                   Ma Bell (408) 738-8301
Disclaimer: 3Com takes no responsibility for opinions preceding this.

*********************************************************************
From: randy@capitan.West.Sun.COM (Randy Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: '78 FLH ?s
Date: 1 Sep 1992 20:28:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: randy@capitan.West.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: capitan.west.sun.com

I'm considering a `78 FLH. The motor has been rebuilt,
aluminum rods, 440 cam etc., Has a belt primary drive and
new tires. The original bags, bars etc. have been replaced by
after market parts but, are included in the purchase. 
On a scale of 1-5 (1 being the best) this
machine would score arround 3.  I'd like to hear the
pros and cons about owning this bike and what a
reasonable purchace price would be.  My goal is to restore
her to original condition and ride, ride, ride.

Thanks for your imput.


==========================================================================
'70 GTO convertable		Randy Smith
'xx F??  to be determined	Sun Microsystems, ABQ NM. (505) 268-3350
==========================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Sportster Belt Drive Failure
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:03:55 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.harley
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <1992Aug26.205146.24375@SSD.intel.com>, earlb@ssd.intel.com
(Earl Brabandt) wrote:
> 
> In article <Stafford-260892091152@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
> >
> >For the record, this is not an inherent problem with belts.  I've been
> >running a Karata primary belt on a Big Twin for over 11 years.  No
> >problems.
> 
> I'm looking at Harleys after years of riding (and roadracing) riceburners.
> I'm interested in belt vs. chain issues.
[]
> Should the sprockets be
> replaced every time you replace the belt just like chain sprockets should be
> replaced any time you replace a chain due to stretch?  

As a rule, no.  

> I'm real familiar and
> comfortable with chains.  Anyone care to give some testimony on belts?

OK, speaking about a primary chain in this case:
Good stuff
	1) You will shed several pounds of weight by switching to a belt drive.
	2) Belts run smoother
	3) Belts require less maintenance
	4) Belts can run dry.  You can loose the oil connection. (I did)
Bad stuff
	Some people cannot resist running giant 3" belts which exacerbate
	alignment problems and thus can cause unneccessary bearing wear.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: speiser@skorpio.usask.ca (SED's Russ Speiser)
Subject: FXR Opinions
Summary: Jap styling vs. Better handling?
Keywords: Harley, FXR
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:19:56 GMT

  I've got a '77 Sportser 1000 and have been dreaming about owning one of the
newer big twins for a while now.

  I'm wondering what FXR owners (FXRT, FXRS, FXRC, etc.) think of these 
bikes.  My local Harley dealer swears by them and has never personally owned
anything else since they came out.  Others have shrugged them off as looking
Un-Harleylike (??!?).

  Personally, I love the lack of vibration, and the handling seems better
too (at least in the FXRS).

  Opinions??



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: stm@sequent.com (Scott "Worf" MacQuarrie)
Subject: Re: All right whats the bike in Terminator 2
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: sqnt
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 04:19:26 GMT

laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>how much does it cost. mikii decided that if i wanted a harley it 
>would have to be one that one cause "its big and grungy".  
>personally all i would want is the cheepest modle with rubber 
>mounted engine and spoke wheels


It's a FLSTF Fatboy.

It's expensive. The cheapest HD is the sportster.


-- 
Scott T. MacQuarrie  Marketing Training Developer, Sequent Computer Systems   
     stm@sequent.com    Beaverton, OR      503-578-5456 
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
     safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."  -  Benjamin Franklin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: choke@mtxinu.COM (Sean Gallaty)
Subject: I voted for this group
Reply-To: choke@mtxinu.COM (Sean Gallaty)
Organization: mt Xinu, Berkeley
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 18:49:32 GMT

I voted for this group, even though I ride a Honda CB1100F and have gotten
immemorable amounts of shit from Harley riders about it being a rice burner
et fucking cetera.

Not that you give a damn, but it had to be said.
People who vote against a group just to snipe at the people that would
read it are losers.





-- 
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