HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Advice on HG leathers
Date: 8 Oct 1992 17:24:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
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In article 2924@porthos.cc.bellcore.com, fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:
>Just for Good ol info's sake anyone have any method of
>retarding the shrink rate HD/HG jackets. 

Jogging.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleve
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 15 Oct 1992 02:50:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Oct14.132758.14528@bnr.uk>, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
wrote:
> Really!  That's my favourite drink of this moment.  

Gee, and I'd prefer a good pint of bitter from the wood.  The one's who
have it good, never realize it...

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Admrl Stockdale)
Subject: Re: Bicycle vs motorcycle flame war, part XXXVII
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:13:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.210706.2496@i88.isc.com>, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct15.180342.28677@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com writes:
|> >In article <1992Oct14.211112.7675@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
|> >|No, you were an idiot.  And your original post reveals your feeling
|> ...
|> >doesn't make me a rabid car hater, you moron).  Your choice, but quit trying
|> >to justify your juvenile reaction.  
|> 
|> Thank you.  Gen. Stockdale, do you have anything to add to the discussion?

Well, ah.... um.... you see....

That's Admiral, not General.....

Ah... 


That's all I've got to say.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!) (really DoD pets)
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 10:59:34 GMT

When I used to work in Cambridge, I lived in a caravan in a small village 
nearby but used to go home, to Cheltenham, at the weekends.  I would always 
take my cat, Amy, with me to keep me company during the week.  I used to carry
her in a cat cage on the rack of my FJ1200.  I would put a piece of board on 
the front of the cage to protect her from the slipstream.  She loved it!  I 
would often stop and check on her but she always seemed happy.  If I ever took
her in a car, she would piss and puke everywhere and it would take weeks to 
get the smell out.  She was truly a biker cat.

I used to get strange looks from cagers I was passing though...


Nick (the Catlover Biker)   MAG 73516  DoD 1069  PDSA


M'Lud.
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:29:02 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA


One thing that I don't understand is why HD is popular among yuppie types.
These people (as a stereotypical group, I suppose) tend to want a certain
style to their toys that is usually more euro or japanese.   It would seem
to me that the japanese/italian sport bike or the euro cruiser would be
more to their taste.   I don't understand why the BMW marque wouldn't be
considered more yuppie than HD.  I don't see that many people that I would
consider yuppie to be the typical HD rider.  They seem to be more american
outlaw type (real or imagined) to me.
I would suggest that the popularity of HD is not so much a yuppie thing
as it is a thing with the twentysomethings.

As for the HD = young death,  you can go faster for cheaper.  I would think
that someone who is biking to satisfy yuppie or stylistic cravings (poseur),
no matter what bike they are doing it on, is less likely to go out in a
blaze of death than someone who craves speed.  Either way,  if you don't
learn how to ride your bike, you're asking for trouble.

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Thphey,  ithn't that a theerthucker |
 | DoD# 541   'Disciples of Daffy'    |  thuit?"         Daffy Duck          |
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HEY PEOPLE! was(Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!)
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:54:48 GMT
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association

In article <4038@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@atc1.UUCP (Tod J Johnson) writes:
+HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY HEY PEOPLE!!
+
+This is out of control!! "Harley Riders are Yuppie scum!!" "Rice Rocket
+riders are pansy fags" etc. etc.
+
+I hate to inform you but people are just people, riders are just riders. 
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"People are just people"!  That is certainly their worst attribute!
____________________________________________________________________________
	"Four wheels good; two wheels better" -- Motorcycle Farm????
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleven
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:27:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> >There is nothing wrong with putting two rods on one crankpin.  It is
-> >common practice in V-engines and is responsible for the compactness
-> >and light weight of V configurations.

> In principle, it is better to have one bearing per journal, not in
> the least because of the need to manage the thrust loads that would
> be inevitably generated otherwise.

 It's generally accepted that there's some tendency for rotation, as the
rings usually rotate around the piston until they gum up, unless they're
pinned to start with.  There's not much tendency to rotate, and there's
no thrust to speak of, even with offset rods like, say, even-fire Buick
V6s.


-> >heads.  It requires pressureized oil feed to the heads.  It is
-> likely >to require more difficult maintainence, more complex and
-> expensive >replacement parts, and be less realiable than a push rod
-> design.

> Nonsense.  The pushrod valve actuation system is far more complicated
> than the rockerless DOHC variety.  Count the number of the moving
> parts, if you are in doubt.

 Let's see - how many parts are there in the average timing chain?
At least a hundred moving parts.  And if you add in the requirement for
self-adjusting valves, you've added lots more parts too.

 Overhead cams are nice, but you gotta spin 'em somehow.  Gears, chains,
or belts, take your pick.  A belt is one part, but a chain ain't.  And
most bikes and cages are chain.
                                                          
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon)
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:27:52 GMT

My choices;

1. 1993 Harley Davidson heritage Nostalga (cow-gilde)
2. 1992 Yamaha V-MAX 1200
3. 1992 Honda GoldWing SE
4. 1993 Harley-Davidson Dyna-lowrider
5. 1993 Harley-Davidson XLH 1200 sportster

---------------------------------------------

J.R. Ordon       '80 CB750C


The views expressed here are my own and not my employers
From: 85p8379@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet Replacement Interval
Date: 9 Oct 92 11:07:22 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <1992Oct6.203151.19777@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>, yduj@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Judy Anderson) writes:
> Another question I have about this is why don't they tell us miles
> ridden, or hours the helmet is exposed to sunlight or other elements,
> or whatever the real basis is?  

>        Judy Anderson yclept yduJ     'yduJ' rhymes with 'fudge'
> 	      yduJ@symbolics.com      DoD #166
>     Join the League for Programming Freedom, league@prep.ai.mit.edu

As I understand it, and this applies to fibreglass helmets only (not
polycarbonate ones), when the helmet is manufactured the hardener added to the
glass fibre begins polymerising and gets harder (funny, that).  It continues
doing so over time, and the theory is that after X number of years the
properties of the helmet (hardness, penetration resistance, toughness) will no
longer comply with safety standard specs.  I'm not cerain about this, but I
think the ongoing hardening process is pretty m{ch independent of factors such
as exposure to sunlight, etc.  I guess it's feasible that this sort of thing
would accelerate hardening.  Life is a large questionmark, really.

Barry Manor 85p8379@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au Sydney Australia DoD# 621
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Commie Beemers for sale
Summary: This is a repeat ... is a repeat ... is a repeat ... is a 
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 04:01:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.223849.28615@xn.ll.mit.edu> rob@ll.mit.edu writes:
>A coworker thrust a J. Peterman Co. catalog into my hands because of a  
>very strange item they're selling.  I quote...
>
>
>R71 Motorcycle with Sidecar.  Found in original crates in a warehouse  
>in China.  Has never been on the road.
>

Is there some reason that is not intuitively obvious for re-posting this
sales info for the Chinese knock-off piece of trash?

We just went through all of this not two weeks ago!  Maybe this is like a
chain letter, where you will be cursed by terrible fortune unless you mail
copies to your ten best friends??  The world wonders!

Does posting count as mailing at least ten copies?


>Rob Steele                            rob@ll.mit.edu
>MIT Lincoln Laboratory
>244 Wood St., M-203           You cannot imagine
>Lexington, MA  02173            how stupid I am.
>617/981-2575                      --George Macdonald


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Date: 8 Oct 92 00:27:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:
+I don't remember seeing Ed reply to this thread.  Does this mean
+somebody else on this group (other than Ed) doesn't have a bike?

bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU replies:
+Gee, you'd think all those posts saying "I'm about to get my
+first motorcycle, what should I get" would've have left
+*some* kind of impression...

But at least these folks are *considering* getting a bike.
That's close enough for me...

Mr. Bill
-- 
Bill Leavitt  DoD: #224  Domain: leavitt@cs.umd.edu  UUCP: uunet!mimsy!leavitt
"Due to circumstances beyond your control,
                        you are master of your fate and captain of your soul."
From: thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tamiya model review
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:43:30 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Oct7.093607.17601@galadriel.bt.co.uk> ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola) writes:
>Just to follow up...
>I bought the VFR 750R (RC30) model and it is truely excellent.
>
>The precision they put into these things is fantastic, right down to
>nut and bolt levels.
>
>I can recommend the VFR - it comes with a nice clear platic fairing
>which allows you to either paint the inside and get a nice finish or
>leave it clear to see the engine etc.
>They include all the decals, rubber hoses, rubber tyres etc.
>I know they do an OW01 and RG400(?) and NSR500 (GP), they also have a
>good range of dirtbikes (KTM, etc. (NOT that anyone would want those
>;-} )).
>

Yah !  I started with the CB900R, then did the Yamaha RZV500
then did the real jewel..  the Ducati 900 Racer...

the RZV500 had mucho time lavished on the body panels..  putty filler,
careful decal placement, CLEARCOAT over the paint and decals !  oh,
if wasn't so delicate I'd want to SIT on the thing !

The Ducati with everything exposed offered the most opportunity to
detail..  every seam was puttied and sanded, the exhaust pipes,
the frame, etc..  I painted tiny black dots in each of the
disk holes..  I painted the chain links, rollers AND pins contrasting
colors..  gosh am I enthusiastic ?  and I built this 8 years ago,
still gives me pleasure to look at....

well...    I'll shut up about it now..

-t.c.



--
"We must be careful not to discourage our 12-year-olds by making them   
 waste the best years of their lives on preparing for examinations.  If
 we do not stifle their interest in science, one of them has a chance to
 be the new Heisenberg..."              - Freeman Dyson
From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The Lockheed Star FB-750 (fighter bike) (was: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleve
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:46:01 GMT
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct14.184103.2422@bnr.ca> mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael Beavington) writes:

>|> Lockheed would make their own fairing, radar-absorbing.
>|> They'd also write the system control software.  In Ada.
>|> 
>|> It will take 8 years to develop, and cost $237K each.
>|> 
>But WOW...be the first on your block with a bike that the 
>neighbours don't complain about the exhaust noise, instead
>they complain about the turbine whine!  You also would
>have a 'heads up' display inside your helmet, kevlar tires
>that will never blow out, guidance control (for those mornings
>before the coffee has kicked in), 620 horsepower, one gear 
>and total weight of 175 pounds!

And let's not forget the obvious, you'll never get another
speeding ticket from a radar equiped police-critter.

Some of those smallish 3.5 inch rockets could easily be mounted inside
the combo engine guards , rocket launchers.  And in case of 
surprise attacks by kamikaze cagers let's not forget the rocket ejection
seat.

Dave
DoD 1085
From: tjohnson@atcc5.prime.com (Tod J Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Riding Two on a CBR600F2
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:24:42 GMT
Reply-To: tjohnson@atc1.UUCP (Tod J Johnson)
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <1992Oct1.165106.583@sdc.com> derrick@sdc.com (Derrick Davis) writes:
>
>My girlfriend somehow manages to place her hands on my thighs
>while we ride.  I suppose she leans foward enough to not slide
>off the back while the support from my thighs keeps her from
>driving me into the tank.

Darren;

	Interesting method to say the least. My bike doesn't have a
sissy bar and back rest. My girlfriend grabs hold of a steel-like,
long and thick rod to steady herself. It hurts like hell when she
gets off the bike without letting go first.

Sincerely;

Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol, PAS(Poster Against Smileys)"
From: benjamin@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Benjamin Renaud)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Is anyone out there a bike thief?
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:41:35 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory


Or at least knowledgeable in the ways of these fuckers...

Here is the story: 

I was getting out of the library last evening, when going down the
stairs i see someone doing something to my bike (a Nighthawk 700S). I
start running, as silently as i could to check it out. The tail light
is on and this guy is doing something (??) to the engine, more
precisely, the electrical system. I grab him by the collar (he was
little so i could be manly and threatening) and throw him on the side
with a punch in the nose. He runs away. Being worried about my
bike, and having a bag and my helmet to worry about i didn't go after
him.

When i get to the bike, i put the key in and turn it. It was on
"parking." I KNOW that it wasn't the way i had left it, because i
ALWAYS check, and could even remeber checking, i had left it on Lock
(steering locked) But the tail light was doing the right thing when i
moved the key around. But then i tried to start the bike, and all i
could get was an electric sounding tik-tik-tik from the side panel.

Does anyone have any idea what this guy might have done to the bike to
steal it? If yes, i'd like to check for them before i pay a few
thousand dollars to a mechanic to fix it.

Thanks,
Benjamin Renaud
benjamin@ai.mit.edu   dod 676
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: <None>
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:20:30 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

In article <1992Oct15.170607.683@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us
(bob pasker) wrote:
> 
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> 
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> bar?]
> 

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From: orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Ken Orr)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cereal for Breakfast
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:54:17 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center


     Orange juice- (vodka optional) ;-) 


     "86 Ninja 600R"                               K.O.
  "DOD #306 AMA #615088"                       T.I. Dallas Tx.
    "Eclipse GS Turbo"                      Orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: andye@meiko.co.uk (Andy Evans)
Subject: Re: NTV-600 Tyres (Go gentle with me!)
Reply-To: andye@meiko.co.uk
Organization: Meiko Limited.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:05:51 GMT


In article 1autb9INNpc9@sixgun.East.Sun.COM, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:

>Wrong approach, Andy.  You will get better results and fewer flames
>with an opening like this:
>
>HEY!  You bunch of posers!  I don't think there is a REAL biker in this
>crowd.  If there is, then you certainly should know about NTV-600
>tires, if not, you're an idiot.  So, let's see you prove your worth.
>Go ahead, tell me.
>
>Fuck you very much, 
>Andy.
>



Ok  Ed, so you're an idiot who knows nothing about bikes. You tactfully
avoid answering my question by giving me a whole load of donkeys bollocks
that you call advice. Thanks a lot pal.


Andy

(So how's that for my second posting? Have I passed the first stage of the DoD
initiation test?)


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: TECH: Con Rod Angularity
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 18:23:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.021043.3342@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.183521.8765@swlvx2.msd.ray.com>, csl@swl (Scott Lilliott) writes:
>
>>To what extent does Con Rod angularity play in the balancing and/or
>>vibration of an ICE?

>Increasing the anglar motion of the con rod (shortening the rod) has
>two vibratory effects.  Assume one cylinder engines.
>
>1) On the power stroke the rod pushes the piston against the cylinder
>wall and pushes in the opposite direction on the crankshaft.  The
>resulting couple creates a rocking vibration.  

Also on the compression stroke.  Another side effect of this would be
increased piston skirt wear.


>2) A shorter rod will increase the difference between the maximum
>accelerations of the piston (and therefore the forces on piston and
>crank) at TDC and BDC.  The resulting imbalance creates a vibration
>along the axis of the bore that cannot be corrected by counter-
>weighting the crank.  

In addition to increasing the absolute value of the acceleration, it
also adds a sizeable component at the 1st harmonic of whatever
fundamental frequency the crankshaft is turning.  (Which explains why
a balancer on the camshaft is called a harmonic balancer...)
While the desired profile would be a sinusoid, the actual piston motion
is:

	y = r*cos(wt) + 1/2(L - sqrt(L^2 - r^2))*cos(2wt)

where y is the piston displacement, r is the radius of the crank,
L is the lenth of the connecting rod, and w is the angular frequency.
(t is, of course, time).  0 degrees is defined as TDC.

Plugging a couple of values in:
	L:r		magnitude of harmonic
	1:3		.029*L
	1:2.5		.042*L
	1:2		.067*L
	1:1.5		.127*L

If anyone feels like plotting this, have at it.  It appears the breakpoint
is somewhere between 1:2.5 and 1:2.  At any rate, the longer the connecting
rod, relative to stroke, the less harmonic vibration.  I'm sure there's
a sexual joke in there someplace, but I'm confident someone else will
point that out.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Rutgers (was: Re: Newbe Flamewars, was: MSF: BRC or ERC?)
Summary: I toast your choice of riding route
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:45:07 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Oct7.184334.11887@nsscmail.att.com>, cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii) writes:

] I occasionally ride thru the New Brunswick Campus on my way home from
] work.
] 
] But, on my Gold Wing, if it had doors and windows, they'd be locked
] and rolled up respectively!!
] 
] New Brunswick (Rutgers) not my first choice of riding routes!

It's my _last_ choice, but, since I'm in NB, if I don't ride through
it, I can't get out.  :(

You know how hard it is to finish up a great ride and head home?
Well, add to that feeling the knowledge that you're heading towards
what is perhaps the biggest armpit of a town in this time zone, and it
makes it even worse.

                                             Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: Fogging and how to stop it?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:39:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Oct12.200206.27011@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <1160@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
>>	How do you keep a visor from fogging up?  Are there any
>>	products out there to stop this? 
>>		Ryan
> Its a product found around many homes and is rather cheap.
> 
> You find a cat. Grasp cat firmly above the hip area with one hand.
> Now with the other hand grasp cat just below shoulder blades.
> Hold cat over visor and squeeze cat(similar to an accordian).
> Make sure to rotate cat in a circular motion ensuring a nice
> even coating. 
Now send it to Tony Wang. He's hungry.

Regards, Charles 
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
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