From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: CYBER FORCE #1
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:56:11 GMT

Mark Crimson Friedman (friedman@python.cis.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: Yeah...and monkey's might fly outta...well, you know the routine...

Take pictures so I can see them! :)

: I gave it a chance, as I have all the !substance stuff, and all I
: could say was "typical."  Just another kewl team book, like we need
: it.

That's typical? I wish!!! Here's a thought -- try Iron Man or the 
West Coast Avengers and CF might stand out a little more!

: Well, maybe it's good for *his* stuff.  Let's see...[fetches comic]
: these characters are too damn flexible for the bulk they have (see
: cover, guy on right (we get his name?), flexing arm)...p18,panel3: one
: of our greatest kicks was to see Wolver-I MEAN, "Ripclaw" suddenly
: gain 4-foot claws (neat trick)!  And this is just a quick glance...

Good grief -- I think Rippy is more based on Lady Deathstrike -- if I remember
correctly, Silvestri was the person who first drew her! I don't see
anything but a superficial resemblance to Wolve-R-ream.

: >The colors are incredible, the drawing is incredible, what can I say?
: 
: Wow!  We agree here: I *do* like the Olyoptics computer coloring.  I
: could dig it in Akira too.  The subtle grey wash on the flashback
: scenes was a nice touch as well.

Ah-hah! Go back and read it again - you must not remember it if you
like it!

: THIS is why Image is popular: the coloring is decent, so it makes the
: art pleasing to look at.  Simple minds are attracted to shiny objects!
: Oh course the kids aren't gonna pick up Cerebus: black and white just
: doesn't catch the eye.

Well, the coloring *is* better than anything I've seen! And the art is leaps
and bounds above the rest of comicdom. 

Even ElfQuest, the original B&W comic, is now in color! Time marches
on, and things change. 

: Sure, it's no Sienkewicz painting, but it's not all that bad...
: 
: >He's leapt from X-Men, which would be the top of most artist's careers,
: >to something astounding. The uniforms and characters jump off the page.
: >The grunt's battle suits are really awesome.
: 
: "AWESOME! AWESOME!"  [call of the fanboy]
: 
: Sure didn't inspire awe in me, son...

Well, lower your standards!! No wonder it didn't do anything for you.
Go look at some Monet and leave comics alone!

: Hoo-boy!  Plain and simple, Silvestri doesn't relate depth well.  The
: non-Euclidean planes of the last page *still* perplex me...

3D in the literary sense, I meant. I missed the non-Euclidean planes,
but then I never did do geometry that well. Some distortion of perspective
enhances the power of the art. (Good old Bill Sienkewicz has done some
of that in his long career :^))

: >And who is that blue woman?
: 
: Oh her?  She's only a blatant rip-off of Mystique from various Marvel
: stuff (X-This, X-That...).  'Cept this time she's in Egyptian threads.

You can't be serious -- that doesn't look anything like M. (except they're
both blue, as well as nightcrawler, which makes them *all* rip-offs of the
Beast!)

: Well, she *is* 10-11 heads tall!  So you get off on tall chicks  with
: legs up their ample breasts...I can see that!  ;-)

Really, I was referring to the colors. 

: >Get it!!!
: 
: I did!!!  It's typical!!!
: 
: However, I do encourage people to take a look

Why!?!?! you hated it!

: And why, OH WHY do they have to stick that heavy-stock Image #0 crap
: in the pages!?!?  Like...we...care?

Maybe we do. Maybe we don't. Speak for yourself!

: Oh, and just to add insult to injury:
: 	"I'm so *bored*...I may as well be listening to Genesis!"
: 						-- Rik (The Young Ones)

Petty vindictive comments like this tend to shoot down any arguements
you made previously!

Scott
--
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