HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Juergen Nickelsen)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper to make than cassettes?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 17:22:06 GMT
Organization: STONE Project, Technical University of Berlin, Germany
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In-reply-to: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu's message of Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:51:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.125102.25706@news.columbia.edu>
lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:

>                                          ...(This 16-bit 486SX chip,
> the 386SX, and the 80286 all have the 16-meg limit due to the 16-bit memory
> buss.)

One megabyte with each bit? :-)
Of course the addresses are 24 bits wide.

--
Juergen Nickelsen
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Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 11:15:01 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC) writes:

> It seems unlikely. Comms between ATMs and the banks are encrypted, and (here
> in Europe at least) ATMs can hand out money even if they can't contact
> the cardholders bank, so some of the control must be excercised locally
> by the ATM with the info that is on the card. If the card is encoded
> with "$300 max per day" thats all the ATM will issue.

Well according to a Coopers & Lybrand case study on computer fraud, the 
early ATM's weren't so smart. Literally. The central bank computer did 
all the processing and the ATM was just a comms machine. The example 
given was an ATM which used plain unencrypted ASCII. The command from 
the bank computer to issue a $10 notes was ASCII 10. The story goes 
that some gentlebeing strolled up to some ATM in the middle of nowwhere 
on a highway, with the phone lines literally running down the pole to 
the mATM. Inserted hi PC in the section and drained the machine by a 
series of ASCII 10's.

Anyone else heard this version, or similar, or wish to comment?

As to the availability of data lines, I know a number of ATM's in New 
Zealand where the phone lines are right nearby the machine. Pukekohe 
ASB Bank for example.


-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
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From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: Gender denoting pictograms on restroom doors
	<1992Nov13.234521.14145@adobe.com>
	<1992Nov14.175451.1376@odin.diku.dk>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:59:46 -0400

>
>>I've been to several yacht clubs where the restroom doors are labelled
>>with pictures: a seagull and a bell buoy. Gulls and buoys, get it?
>>Hahaha. What a clever way to embarrass visitors whose native language
>>isn't English.
at a carousel in fall river, massachusetts, the rest rooms are labellled with
the words "mares", and "steeds".  especially annoying since the word "steeds"
isn't gender specific.   someone has added handmade "women" and "men" signs/
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: UL Alert:  Blue blood!!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:49:07 GMT

tcg@mayo.edu (Thomas Gerber) writes:
: 
: It's rather sci.med, but what the heck ... The four pulmonary veins carry oxygenated blood.
: Now, what are my two Shergold "blue blood" points good for?

A free pint of blood - if and when you find yourself in a hospital, missing
a kidney. If you do not wish to make use of this award, I will endeavor to
arrange a substitute prize - to be determined.

I wonder if I should make that an AFU contest? Probably not, some of the
people here are too creative - it would be hard picking a winner.

Bill
From: linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Trelford Yates Pinkerton)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Why isn't he dead?
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:45:52 GMT
Organization: The Bishop Sandwich Band
NNTP-Posting-Host: positive

So like, why does George Hamilton have that unhealthy pallor?

Did he die years ago?  Or was it quite recently?  And why do they keep
casting him in films, if he's dead?

    Trelford "Ronald 'mark of the beast' Reagan" Pinkerton

--
   "Call me Ishmael"  Again and again I left a pleading message on the Captain's
   answering machine.  But he never did return my call, so I gave up whaling
   and became a computer programmer.   [Vol 1, "Moby Frob"]
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From: maynard@leah.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Conspiracy Theory, brought to you today.
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:16:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.164400.18849@geovision.gvc.com>, pt@geovision.gvc.com
(Paul Tomblin) writes:
>dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes) writes:
>
>>It was designed that way, and it works very well.  The electoral college
>>prevents candidates who do not enjoy broad popular support from winning
>>national elections, thus eliminating the possibility of a crank with a
>huge 
>>regional following ascending to the White House.
>
>Gee, I thought it was because the upper (and upper middle) class snobs
>who
>wrote the constitution wanted to give power to the masses, but not _too_
>much.  If the great unwashed voted for somebody who was obviously wrong,
>the
>upper class `Electoral College'' could set things right.

I always thought it had to do with the fact that phones hadn't been
designed back then, and the electoral college scheme was a method to allow
everyone over a large geographical region to vote, by breaking up the
elections into smaller more manageable geographical units. That's why all
the dates involved are so far apart. Am I wrong?

Maynard
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: technews@iitmax.iit.edu (Kevin Kadow)
Subject: Re: Billiard Ball UL
Organization: Technology News, IIT, Chicago, IL
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 00:28:36 GMT

In article <BxuE9I.LMD@egsner.cirr.com> datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
)
)>I heard that if you put a standard billiard ball in your oven at
)>500 degrees Fahrenheit, it will explode.

I've _read_ that when cue balls were made from cellulose nitrate, the mix
would sometimes become contaminated, resulting in impact sensitive
compounds. There were supposedly several cases of shooting deaths when a
new cue ball was brought into play in a seedy pool hall and detonated by
the player, which fooled one or more players into thinking somebody had
opened fire.
)
)How hot does it have to be for nonstandard ball?  Is that an ISO-standard ball
)or a yet-to-be-released OSF ball?
)
)>Has anyone else heard/tried this?
)            ^^^^
)So, you've tried it?


-- 
            We has met the enemy and he is us.  (Walt Kelly)

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.med
From: dag@col.hp.com (David Geiser)
Subject: Re: Smoke cigarettes -- leave early!
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:35:50 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

> >>>   "every cigarette you smoke takes N days off your life".
> >>>takes 1 year off your life, so each cig is worth a day.  
> >I once heard 8 minutes, but this is old info.
> I once heard it was 6 minutes... Obviously this sort of thing can't
> >>I heard N = 5 minutes.  So 288 cigarettes takes a day out of your life, and

Who cares how long or how fast their suicide is?  MYOB.

How many minutes does second-hand smoke take off my life?
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: catstyle@deja-vu.aiss.uiuc.edu (Jason R. Heimbaugh)
Subject: Re: When does FAQ get posted?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:55:43 GMT

In article <27612@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
>leecr@microsoft.com (Lee Crocker) writes:
>
>
>  
>  +
>
>Is true.  I should hasten to mention that while deja-vu is still
>good, Jason has mentioned that ftp access should be directed to
>"cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu" in the same directory.  I just tried
>deja-vu and it's still good though.

All of the stuff I have archived is on the machine that cathouse points
to.  I'll use cathouse as an alias to point to wherever my archives happen
to move.  Through the kindness of his heart (or was it the 1300+ GIFs I 
gave him?), Lance Moxley let me start my archives on deja-vu.  They're no
longer on deja-vu. but he has them nfs mounted.  There's been no trouble
yet, but I'd like to keep the network load on deja-vu to a minimum.  But
after several months of trying, deja-vu:cathouse accesses are still about
5:1.  (Oh well, anyone interested in helping out a dying boy's last wish?)

>Terry "What did the 'T' in ftp stand for again?" Chan

Jason "What does the 'T' in all those Terries stand for?" Heimbaugh
jrh@uiuc.edu
-- 
Jason R. Heimbaugh (CatStyle)
jrh@uiuc.edu
"When my time's over and I'm out on my own,
 You won't find me in an old folks home." --Ronnie Van Zant
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: of human or divine genius  re: AIDS
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:48:53 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <9809@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:
> Nope. According to the CDC, there is no such thing as AIDS like symptoms. 
> Full blown AIDS is a condition where the body's immune system has totally
> broken down. In that circumstance opportunistic infections present thems
> elves and these are the illnesses we see. 

Right.  And the clinical definition of AIDS lists a variety of these
illnesses as indicating AIDS.  In fact, the exact set of illnesses
is a matter of some political controversy; the claim has been made
that by excluding some of them, especially in women, the true scope
of the AIDS epidemic is being underestimated.  (Btw, the list was
just expanded -- by the CDC -- within the last two weeks.)

Translation:  immunologic tests notwithstanding, there is a clinical
presentation of AIDS.

I repeat my previous question -- what sorts of evidence would you
accept as showing that there is no conspiracy?
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Soldiers breaking wind (Was Re: Soldiers breaking step across bridge)
Date: 17 Nov 1992 06:18:59 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

u8802356@cs.uow.edu.au (Stephen Lance Rogan) writes:
  
  +Thats silly.
  +Where would your average soldier get hold of cattle, just to cross a bridge ?

They're all over the place.  The soldier needs to get one and carry
it across within to help dampen the vibrations.  
 
  +ObUL : Microwaves vary the frequency of the waves for the same reason. The 
  +object is to heat the food, not make it shake itself to destruction.

That's true.  It might explodes and dozens of tarantulas may come out.

Terry "What?  Are you some sorta city boy?" Chan
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Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | Carpe Per Diem
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From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: furrfu??
Keywords: TERRY, KIBO, SIL, SPOT
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:38:49 GMT

In article <13273@optilink.COM> manley@optilink.COM (Terry Manley) writes:
>Keywords: TERRY, KIBO, SIL, SPOT

See Spot.  See Terry Kibo sil Spot.  Poor Spot!

						-- Terry Kibo (Saur)

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: Peter.Weekes@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Another Airport Urban Legend.
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:17:42 GMT

Talking of pickpocketing, a friend of mine, who was attending the same
conference inb Paris, France was riding up an escalator from a metro. A man in
front of him bent over (ostensibly to tie his shoes) when they reached the
top, and two other guys from behind pushed my friend over. They grabbed his
wallet while he was trying to figure out what was going on, and took off. 

Peter
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From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: DIY porn UL comes alive
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 08:30:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.151541.21245@midway.uchicago.edu>, pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson) writes:
|> 
|> I was *sure* you were eventually going to mention something about
|> toothbrushes...

...like saying that oral sex with such devices is illegal in new zealand?

---
YuNoHoo   "I know a good story when I forget it"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Conspiracy Theory, brought to you today.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Will pay money for food.
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:56 EST  

In article <1992Nov18.091607.8532@msc.cornell.edu>, 
  maynard@leah.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes...

>I always thought it had to do with the fact that phones hadn't been
>designed back then, and the electoral college scheme was a method to allow
>everyone over a large geographical region to vote, by breaking up the
>elections into smaller more manageable geographical units. That's why all
>the dates involved are so far apart. Am I wrong?

Each state still had to tally up the popular vote and report it to a central
location, so how would that have made the election more manageable?

 - snopes

+------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
|                        |"It's conceivable that sometimes when people       |
| David P. Mikkelson     | criticize the president for syntax lapses, when   |
| Rocketdyne Systems     | he's -- particularly when he's tired, that this   |
| Chatsworth, CA   USA   | kind of verbal problem can be a form of dyslexia."|
|                        |                                                   |
|       (snopes)         | -Burton Lee (President Bush's personal physician) | 
+------------------------+---------------------------------------------------+
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From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: Snuff film?
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:11:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.211328.520@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, bill nelson writes:
>
> Nope. If you read the FAQ, you will note that FOD was acknowledged. Films of
> people dying are not unusual - that has been happening for over 100 years.

Jules Etienne Marey invented the "photographic gun" in the 1880s and made
the early films of people dying. (Why would he call it a "gun" if this
wasn't true?). In 1894 Thomas Alva Edison marketed the Kinetoscope to
make films of people dying available for a broader audience.

Because Edisons movie camera, the Kinetograph, was to large to carry
around wherever people were dying it was neccessary to stage everything
in a studio. Thus the concept of snuff films was born...

---
YuNoHoo  "another clue is Edison's firm belief that moving pictures was
          something people would watch in solitude"
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From: scooper6@mach1.wlu.ca (stephen cooper 9209 U)
Subject: Re: The Fabrikant case--did it happen?
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:34:15 GMT
Keywords: murder

In article <By0Isy.7G6@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mcwg9235@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marsha Woodbury ) writes:
>I am curious.
>When we searched the news database here, IBIS, we found 53
>articles BY Fabrikant, and only one (1) --from Canada--
>about the shooting.
>Now.
>Why didn't the USA cover this tragedy?

I guess because shootings occur everyday in the US. :-)

It's got to be in a major paper around the last week of August 1992.
-- 
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Waterloo, Ontario | "Je suis professeur.  C'est a dire que, hors d'une classe,
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Yeah, and I think Gladstone....
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:23:32 GMT

tel@adimail.uucp (Terry Monks) writes:
: 
: I don't believe so, although Bejamin Disraeli was Jewish by
: birth, but a practising Christian.
: 
: Terry "or was it Churchill?" Monks

He was a practicing Churchill?

Bill "Or was he a Churchill - by birth?" Nelson
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper to make than cassettes?
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:17:14 GMT

>Along related lines (I know this one is true), it is cheaper to make certain
>computer chips with math coprocessors than to make them without (since it costs
> extra money to sever the line to the coprocessor).  But the ones with the
>coprocessor cost more.  Of course in this case, you're paying for technology...

Designing, releasing, and fabricating a chip is a time-consuming process.
I suspect that maintaining two otherwise-identical chips through the design,
test, and fabrication process would involve considerable expense and trouble.
Sun seems to have had similar problems with their OS -- there were problems
in the export version that weren't in the domestic version, so they switched
to a standard, exportable version with the domestic-only crypt stuff as an
add-on.

>Are there any other blatant examples of charging more for something that is
>actually cheaper to manufacture?

Your local telephone company charging for DTMF service.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: knauer@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase)
Subject: Light bulbs in microwave
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:19:47 GMT

Well, here's (for a switch) a vindication of an UL...

If you put incandescent light bulbs in a microwave and turn it on, they will
flicker on and off.

Proof by existance was shown to me Friday night (11/19/92) in Champaign IL.

[This was, of course, after we traipsed out in the rain with a fluorescent
bulb looking for power lines low enough to perhaps light it.  Jury is still
out on that one, although the Champaign policeman who questioned my friend
thought it was hilarious.]

Rob
--
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knauer@cs.uiuc.edu       Dept. of Computer Science, Gigabit Study Group
   "Eat, drink, and be merry; for tomorrow, ye will be taxed."  America, I
    hope 'change' was worth it...
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: UL used for sitcom plot
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:20:19 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

Last night I was watching "One Foot In The Grave" (do you get that in the 
states?) and one of the plotlines was:

Holidaying child leaves tortoise with grandparents.  It kips down in a pile 
of grass/leaves, gets put in bonfire and dies.  Grandfather breaks news to 
child's mother, but unknown to him, grandmother buys new tortoise and gives 
it to child.  New tortoise asleep, does not move, gets buried as assumed by 
child's mother to be the dead one.



ALSO!  on a show called "Waiting For God", a couple of lines of dialogue 
struck me as rather amusing---
"What was he doing throwing a boomerang from the window of a moving train?"
"He was testing Einstein's theory of relativity"
Anybody want to discuss what the 'rang ought to do?

        Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty

  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033  
  D.Budd@mcc.ac.uk                                          fax 6040
From: Jay.Ashworth@f8649.n3603.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Jay Ashworth)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Soldiers breaking step across bridge
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 22:17:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3603/8649

Rachel J. Perkins, to All on 16 Nov 92:

 RP> From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
 RP> Date: 14 Nov 92 17:09:35 GMT
 RP> Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

 RP> it isn't clear whether you meant this or not, but just to be sure: the
 RP> tacoma narrows bridge did not collapse because of soldiers walking
 RP> across it in lockstep. it did collapse because the wind caused it to
 RP> vibrate at its resonant frequency. i (and many others of you, i'm sure)
 RP> have seen this nifty thing on film in an intro physics class. pretty
 RP> morbid, with a guy trying to save his dog from plummeting to its
 RP> death...

Indeed.  Jon Bentley, in _More_Programming_Pearls_, (an excellent book for other reasons...) mentions that the only suspension bridge from that era still standing is the George Washington, in New York.

The reason?

John Roebling, the designer, was an _engineer_.  He didn't trust the formulas, so he designed the bridge to withstand SIX times the predicted wind loading, using the formulas he had to work with...

 RP>         rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
 RP>       "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
 RP>                                         -Aldous Huxley

Indeed...

Cheers,
-- jra
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From: urbina@novax.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: More electrical no-no's
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:41:01 GMT



I was in a High voltage safety awareness class a few months back and the
instructor told a supposedly true story of some idiot kid somewhere in 
Georgia that took a 600 amp auto battery with jumper cables and touched the
other ends of the jumper cables to his tongue. (Ouch !) He blew his tongue and 
lower lip right off.

Remember kids, auto batteries are not like 9 volt batteries.

Guy
Urbina@novax.llnl.gov
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Famous Americans on Christianity
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:53:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.144530.28387@urbana.mcd.mot.com> mscott@urbana.mcd.mot.com writes:
>In article <mjenkins.721786253@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>|> In <2825@israel.nysernet.org> warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein) writes:
>|> 
>|> >Was anyone famous ever a Christian?
>|> 
>|> How famous? Does Amy Grant count? How about Billy Graham?
>-- 
>Here's a few that I can think of off the top of my head. These are all people
>who have openly professed a deep commitment to Christ. 
>
>C. Everett Coop - former Surgeon General

But does he taste like chicken?

>Sports:
>Oral Herschizer

Didn't the Supreme Court rule against Oral herschizing?

>Entertainment:
>John Tesh

I thought you said *entertainment*!  Sheesh.

Ted "didn't Ringo Starr come out with a magic three-sided Christian?" Frank
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