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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:31:44 -0500
From:         Mike Gingell <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@CONCERT.NET>
Subject:      Re BBC WS & UK license fee

Philip Peake <philip@MENTORG.COM> writes:

(re: the UK TV license fee:)

>Last I heard, it was about GBP 60 for a colour TV, and GBP 40 for B&W
>(surely, someone from the UK will correct me here), so, yes its about the same
>sort of price (for 2 BBC channels - with absolutely NO commercials, not even
>the "sponsorship" messages that PBS has).

I think it is closer to 70 pounds now, and has been frozen for a while,
forcing the BBC to cut costs. This is no more than the price of ONE premium
cable channel in the USA.  Very reasonable really considering all that it
buys.  Makes me tired when the local PBS station asks for a mere $100
in donations and are always throwing out the argument that "in England
you would have to pay a licence fee".  Yes and without all those folks
paying that fee there would be next to no programs to show on PBS.

Of course the big advantage of a fee is that almost every UK household has
a TV and has to buy one licence - this comes to 15 to 20 million times the
fee or about $1.7*10^9 a year which gives the BBC a decent sum to
produce programs & run 5 radio & 2 TV networks.  It also incidentaly forces
the commercial competition to produce high quality programs.  Of
course they are not all good but out of the 1000s of hours of new
programming generated every year there are some gems.

As a UK expatriate I would gladly pay the equivalent of the UK licence
fee if I could get a version of WSTV without commercials with some
moderate entertainment content. There probably aren't enough of me
though.  I would also pay big bucks to get BBC Radio 4 but I have to
be content with tape delay - sigh.

Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
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From: mturner@rockytop.tivoli.com (Mike Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: STS SR-BLOCK/MBS-AA remote needed..
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:39:16 GMT
Organization: TIVOLI Systems, Inc.


Hello All,

I bought a used STS SR-BLOCK/MBS-AA system recently.
It did not come with a remote control and I would like to purchase a used one 
or send someone my "smart learning remote" and let them program it to
send the STS signals.  If anyone has a used STS remote that they would sell
or they are willing to program my smart remote please reply via email.

Thanks,
Mike Turner
mturner@tivoli.com

p.s. I could buy a new remote for $80 but that is high considering the
     whole system(dish, vc ii case, cable, receiver, actuator) was $450.
From: adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: MTV/VH-1 Dual Illumination
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:55:56 EST
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Does anybody know if MTV and VH1's feeds will be permanently dual-illuminated
on G3, even though they are now already broadcastingon C3/C4?

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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:55:27 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: ST Deep Space Nine?

>O.K. So when is the premiere of Star Trek, Deep Space Nine?
>My local tv station is set to premiere it on Jan 9.  Anyone
>have any advance info?


You know if I had been thinking I would have made an auto post daemon to send
this info to the net every 12 hours for the last 6 weeks.

Too late now though.

By the time you see this message, you missed the first play.

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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: Satellite services update -plus- new update on another S1 service!
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 21:27:59 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <y16iwB1w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca> emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:
>roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers) writes:
>> 
>> I just thought I'd get you all up to speed on the S1 services since
>> S1 is going dark  on Jan 7.
>> 
>SCOLA was announcing tonite that they're going to be on ASC1, 
>Channel 23 Hor. Switchover date is, I think, Dec 28.

Switchover date is coming up.  I read another person saying SCOLA
has an 18 month contract.  Thank goodness for those U's  ;)   They
must be ticked off because they need to change the angle of the LNB
in their "rectangular" dishes -- or at least my university does.

UPDATE:   ART BELL   --  looks like the Art Bell overnight show will
end up on Galaxy 6.  I saw a slate last night on G6/9 with the Art
Bell show audio.  Considering I rarely listen to him -- I find Talknet
neater with Bruce Williams -- I forgot all about him when I posted
my previous S1 service updates.

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu

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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Change in the replacement of Galaxy 1?
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 06:00:59 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na


Gary and I are trying to confirm a rumor tonight.  On Gary's live
Friday Night Live call-in show, a caller said that Galaxy 6 was
not going to replace Galaxy 1, but rather it would be Galaxy 5.

I have not heard this info from any of my sources.  Gary hasn't
either.  The caller said his source was secret but his source
lives (or works?) in Rhode Island.

Has anyone else heard this?  For this coming week, I know Gary
is going to try to confirm this.  

Reason for G5 doing the replacing?  The caller led me to believe
that it was not good to have a 10 watt satellite (G6) between
two 16-17 watt satellites.  Gary and I have noticed crosstalk
between C3, G1, and C4, but I have not noticed any problems
on Galaxy 1 with adjacent satellites.  I only notice the problem
when I flip through one polarity of G1 and see C3/C4 pics "in-between"
G1 transponders.

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu

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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:10:14 MST
From:         Bob Wier <rrw@SUNSET.CSE.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      Cellular Vision

 There is an interesting story in the December 21st Network
 World.  Seems the FCC has endorsed a cellular telephone type
 of over - the - air "cable" tv system.

 It operates on 28 Ghz (no, that's not a mistype), using about
 a 6 inch square flat plate antenna mounted on the windowsill.
 Each cell is about 5 miles by 5 miles.  Channel capacity is
 around 50. Technology is FM for interference reduction.
 There is already a test system in place in Brighton Beach
 NY which has been operating since last summer (anyone on here
 familiar with that?).  The talk is about on-demand video
 services with movies, home banking, shopping, multimedia,
 etc... Adjacent cells will be alternately horizontally or
 vertically polarized, similar to satellite systems.

 There is no mention of possible implementation dates..

- Bob Wier

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From: lon@edsi.plexus.COM (Lon Ponschock)
Subject: PRINCE on ABC's _In Concert_ needed
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:39:17 GMT
Summary: Rquest for VHS of program
Keywords: Prince,_In Concert_


     PRINCE on ABC's _In Concert_ needed


     This past Friday night (12/18/92) at midnight, ABC
     television's _In Concert_ program had a concert by
     Prince on it.

     I would like to get a VHS videotape of this concert.
     Please send mail if you can forward a copy of this
     program.

     Also advise if there are any mailing lists, newsgroups
     or other sources to contact with this request.

     I will reimburse for tape and shipping.

     Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.:-)


lon





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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Satellite info please
Date: 29 Dec 92 04:33:18 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <92360.130050AUPCK@ASUACAD.BITNET> AUPCK@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
<Hello:
<   I'm new to satellite and want to know more about it. I read most of the
<messages but the technical terms confuse me. Where can I find a basic magazine
<or book that will give me a good introduction. I will be moving to New Zealand
<in the next couple month and interest buying a small satellite with me so I
<can still watch the US news and programs.
<Any help would be greatly appreciated.                Philip

You will not be able to pick up U.S. satellites in New Zealand...period.
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From: philip@mentorg.com (Philip Peake)
Subject: Re:      Re: BBC WSTV
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:00:28 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <9212220143.AA27437@lopez.marquette.MI.US>,         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US> writes:
|> 
|> Yes after reading the posts re: BBCWSTV, I am totally disheartened, and have
|> done a rethink.  I seem to recall feeling this way after being LJBF'd by
|> various ladies in my youth that had won my heart prior to their knowing I
|> existed.
|> 
|> So where does this leave us.  The additudes expressed during the Call in show
|> leaves little doubt in my mind that things will change.

If you are dissapointed, think of how us Brits feel about it.
We are sort of used to the service that BBC world service radio has given
over the years, and expected the same thing to eventually happen to
the TV service.
 
|> If BBCWSTV does team up with the likes of, say, Ted Turner, or some other
|> "entrepreneurial partner"  And we end up with a COMMERCIAL version of
|> BBCWSTV, I for one will NOT be watching.  While I would easily pay $120 a
|> year, perhaps more for BBCWSTV (Is this more or less what BRITS pay for their
|> TV TAX?) I will not pay a DIME to descramble BBC with AMERICAN COMMERCIALS in
|> it.  The thought is so distasteful I can not even see straight after typing
|> it.
|> 
|> I feel that we have been lead on and downright lied to regarding this whole
|> matter, with regard to previous BBC announcements.

Last I heard, it was about GBP 60 for a colour TV, and GBP 40 for B&W
(surely, someone from the UK will correct me here), so, yes its about the same
sort of price (for 2 BBC channels - with absolutely NO commercials, not even
the "sponsorship" messages that PBS has).

I would be perfectly happy to pay that sort of price (maybe even more) to
simply receive a feed of domestic BBC1 & BBC2 programs - hell, I will even
do the tape delays myself !

|> I am surprised the BBCWS Radio is still on with THAT kind of attitude running
|> rampant.

If some people in the current British government had their way, it
wouldn't be. Hadn't you noticed that the content of domestic programs
on the radio service is declining ? Same reason - they are "saleable",
and if you want them, you buy tapes from BBC enterprises !!!
 
|> Sing along now:
|> 
|> Mun nee makes da world go around, da world go around, da world go around....

Doesn't it just ...

Philip
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Subject: Re: FIRST ANNUAL INTERNET TVRO ACHIEVEMENT AWARDS 
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Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:18:25 +0000

Cor.. Satnews did not get a mention:-(
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: My visit with Santa...
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 17:30:55 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na

From the limited humor collection of Robert:

"Gee, I wonder what Santa is getting me for Christmas" I asked myself
as 12 midnight rolled around and I sat down to watch NBC nap (for those
of you in Rio Linda, it is NBC Nightside).

I fell asleep, but I quickly woke up because I heard a clang that 
sounded like it was coming from my dish.

Being the good person that I was, I guessed it had to be Santa and I
went back to bed.

When I got up, I found quite a surprise!!!!  On my dish was:

a 19-21 (guessed) Super ICE.  Wow!  Guaranteed to give me the most
sparklie-free pictures!  

a .5 KU ICE.  Wow!  Also guaranteed to give me the most sparklie-free
pictures.

a "super-duper, 102 foot actuator arm", guaranteed to give me satellites
on the other side of the world.

Well, I went inside and turned on the dish.  A Ku satellite was horrible
(broken promise #1), a few of the weaker C-band transponders were sparklie
(broken promise #2), and I couldn't get the Atlantic Intelsats or the
Asia satellites (broken promise #3).

I am not blaming Santa for this... he was just trying to do what was
right.

I should have known last night it was Santa.  I heard him yell as he
left my backyard "We're going DDDDDDOOOOOOWWWWWWNNNNNNTTTTTOOOOWWWWNNNNN!"
.  He concluded that comment with, "Gee, we should do something with that
ugly thing".  What did Santa do, you ask?

He turned it into a planter and put tons of cacti in it!  Now, I have
a strictly Southwestern dish!  ;)

Well, I hope you all are having a good Christmas.  Santa was good to me
this year (other than the equipment he purchased for me!).

See you soon with a special to the Internet!

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
From: knoche@desert-rat.West.Sun.COM (Bill Knoche SUN Phoenix SE 602-275-5537 x24)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Data via Satellite ?
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:25:10 GMT
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Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: desert-rat.west.sun.com

Sorry for the totally niave questions...
New to the satellite world.

I have seen others post about getting netnews via satellite
and other data services.
What kind of services might be avaliable?
What do you need to connect? Modems?
Pointers? Pointers to pointers?

Appreciate any and all help. Send email to me if you
don't think others can benefit...

Thanks much,

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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:38:54 PST
From:         Vijay Vaidyanathan <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM>
Subject:      Which magazine is the best?
              1 Jan 1993 01:32:39 GMT <9301010149.AA08923@Sun.COM>

> I am fairly new to satellite dishes, and we got a subscription to
> Orbit magazine when we got our dish... subscription time will be
> rolling around soon, and I am wondering if you satellite folks can
> tell me which magazines (magazines which list satellite
> programming) you thing are the best.

I like Satellite TV week much better than Orbit; it costs $40 for
a new subscription ($52 if you call them directly) for 52 issues
(i.e. 1 yr).

Drop by your dealer and pick up a back issue.

When I compared it to Orbit a year or so ago, there was no
contest, but I'm told Orbit has gotten better over the past year.
Some factors to consider are:

1. Orbit is Monthly, Sat TV Week is Weekly
2. Orbit is regular-sized, but Sat TV Week is larger "tabloid
size", which some folks consider unwieldy, but it lets you put
more on a page
3. Sat TV Week lists programming by your time zone, I dont know if
Orbit has started doing that yet.
4. Both have recurring feeds sections ...
5. I am told that Orbit has better "articles: (i.e.
non-programming related stuff).

Cant think of anything else ...

- Vijay
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Subject: Re: Why is EVERYTHING good in the Western sats!
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:35:47 GMT
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In article <9212231851.AA25889@aurw6b.aur.alcatel.com> (rec.video.satellite), Mike Gingell <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@CONCERT.NET> writes:
] Phil Hunt  phil@phunt.MV.COM writes:
] >Why are they putting everything good onto westernmost satellites?
] >Isn't that discriminatory against the East coast?
] >
] 
] >I just found out alot of services are moving to C1(F1) at 137 degrees!!!!!
] >Luckily, I can get down to the new C4, but C1 is in the trees.  I can barely
] >get picture, unless it is real cold outside.  BUMMER!
] 
] >Noone (or mostly noone) in the east can get that!  It is only 4 degrees above
] >the horizon!!!
] 
] You don't just live on the East Coast - you must live in the FAR NORTH
] EAST to get an elevation as low as that. I consider myself as
] "living on the East Coast" - we are in Raleigh NC and the elevation here
] is about 15.5 degrees.  I plugged some approximate numbers in for Boston
] and I get 7.6 degrees.
] 
I live 60 miles NORTH of Boston!!!...To give you an idea, Buffalo,NY is 
SouthWest of here!!!!

] Anyway, where did you get this info about any services moving to C1/F1 -
] thats been fairly full for some time. There has been no discussion of this
] on the net or any other media that I have seen. Many services ARE moving
] to C3 (was F3 also known as F1R) at 131 degrees.
] 
It has been on Superguide for a week or 10 days.  Superguide has very up-to-date
articles as it 'publishes' every day!


Phil

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From: ent3c@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Eric  Turkheimer)
Subject: Janeil questions
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:54:05 GMT

My Janeil stereo processor arrived and seems to work fine, but I have
some questions......

1) My receiver distinguishes between narrow and wide band.  Does the
distinction not apply to the Janeil?

2) In general, I have been surprised by the weakness of the radio
signals I receive, especially the ones not on G5.  KLON, from Long
Beach on S3, comes in with a good deal of static.  Is this simply the
price I pay for my 7-foot dish, or is there anything I can do to boost
the signal?

3) I take it that so-called VC-II stereo is not received by the
Janeil.  That leads to a problem, since my stereo amplifier only has
one set of auxilliary input jacks.  How do people handle this?

And while I've got you technical wizards on the line....

I occasionally experience a condition in which transponders 7-10, or
some subset of these, fail to be received on all satellites.  Does
this sound like TI, or my receiver (HTS IV), or something else?

And,

Is an improvement in LNB likely to substantially improve performance
on weaker satellites (given that 7 foot dish) or would it make more
sense to upgrade the dish first?  I have forgotton what LNB I have
currently, but it's a safe bet that it's nothing special.

Thanks,
Eric Turkheimer
ent3c@virginia.edu
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:24:09 -0500
From:         Mike Gingell <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@CONCERT.NET>
Subject:      re: remote with macros

Gary W. Sanders gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org asks

>Anyone know of a programmable IR remote that will do
>macros?

Yes.  The Memorex CP-8 will do just what you want.  It learns up to 8
different devices and can be programmed to remember sequence of commands.
The current model is the CP-8 Turbo which sells for about $80 I think.
It lists for over $100.
Available from Crutchfield and J&R Music World.  Also Damark has been
closing out an earlier model called the CP-8 for $29.95.  I have several
of these and they are excellent. They have 5 built in timers which can
be used to launch any one of your stored command sequences.

I also have a Radio Shack Model that was discontinued with their latest
catalog.  If you can find one (model 15-1903) snap it up.  I would love
to find another.

I would suggest if anyone wants one of these to buy now because they
seem to be going out of style.  Too complicated for the average Mr
I. Pushbutton.  Witness the success of the VCR+

One last suggestion. Buy an HP95LX palmtop PC. The 512k version goes
for around $380.  It has a built in IR port for talking to other 95s
or HP accessories.  At least 3 different sources have made learning
IR remote programs for it.  A bit expensive, but it has Lotus 123
and lots more, tried doing your taxes on your TV remote lately?.
If there is any interest I can post more details.

Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:09:32 PST
From:         Vijay Vaidyanathan <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM>
Subject:      For quick sale: Used Sat TV system

OK, so now I have a new dish I want to set it up in time for DS9
and figure this is a good time for a general upgrade: ... All
prices intended to be very reasonable, if you dont think they are,
pl let me know!

This system is a "complete" C+Ku system - you add the pole and the
cabling and the TV. This is a much loved system, so it must go to
a loving and affectionate home.

For sale:

"A-la-carte" prices! :

    Dish: Orbitron SX7 Quad feed                        $125

    Actuator: 24'' Von weisse                           $ 50

    C/Ku Feedhorn, 30 deg C band 1.0 ku LNBs            $150

    VC2+ MOM, brand new, never authorised               $300

    Sierra 2+ rcvr with ZILLIONS of Ku frequencies
    typed in over HOURS and HOURS and HOURS putting
    severe stress on an otherwise blissful marriage!
    PLUS a descrambler "cage" for your VC2+/MOM         $250


OK, now here's the deal, if you buy the dish, you can choose to
buy (or not buy) *anything* from the list. If you dont buy the
dish, you cant buy *any* of the above, until someone takes the
dish.

As always, you cart. I can help you pull it off the pole, but then
on, its yours! I dont think its wise to ship the dish, but I can
ship anything else, but you get to pay UPS.

Oh yes, I have the system working right now, so if you want to see
it up and running, and are willing to make the trip to Fremont CA,
give me a call: (510) 623 4423 (work) or (510) 795 6571 (home).

- Vijay
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