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From: ajh@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Alan Hu)
Subject: Viennese Waltz Question
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:45:05 GMT

Here's another question for all you Ballroom Gurus out there...

Over the last few years I've been doing social (non-performance,
non-competitive, non-judged) dancing, I've had a number of different
teachers teach the basic Viennese Waltz left and right turns in various
ways, so I'm asking "What is the correct way?" and "What is acceptable?":

Teacher 1:
	Left and Right Turns are exact mirror images.  For the Left Turn,
	the steps are forward on the left foot, turning while stepping
	with the right foot (kind of a side step ending up being a backward
	step with back down line-of-dance), and then brining the left foot
	back together with the right (feet parallel, legs uncrossed).  For
	the back half, step back with the right foot, turn while stepping
	down line-of-dance with the left foot (again, kind of side step
	becoming forward), and then bring the right foot together next to
	the left.
Teacher 2:
	Left and Right Turns are exact mirror images.  Description is
	pretty much as above, except on count 3 when facing back line-of-dance,
	rather than bringing the feet together side-by-side, the moving
	foot (left foot for left turn) is crossed in front of the other
	foot.
Teacher 3:
	Left and Right Turns are not mirror images.  The Left Turn is
	as described by Teacher 2, but the right turn if more like
	Teacher 1's:  facing down line-of-dance, step forward with
	the right foot, turn to step back down line of dance with the
	left foot, bring the right foot back together with the left
	or even crossing loosely BEHIND the left.  On the second 3 counts,
	step back and to the left with the left foot, turn to step forward
	down line-of-dance with the right, and bring the left foot together
	with the right.

1.  So, which is right?  (I suppose the real dancers will recoil in
	horror at all three of these.  How *should* it be done?)

2.  Is there a difference between people who primarily do International
	Style versus those who primarily do American Style?

3.  Is the man's and woman's footwork exactly identical, or are there
	subtle differences?  Are the Left and Right Turns exactly mirror
	images, or are there subtle differences?  (I'd expect the alignment
	in proper dance position to make slight differences, but I'm
	no positive what those might be.)

Thanks!
						--Alan Hu
From: GOLDMAN@ALA.BTK.UTU.FI (Adrian Goldman, BTK x8029)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Brigham Young Dance Camps
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:58:08 GMT
Organization: Centre for Biotechnology, Turku, Finland
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Does anyone know anything about dancing in Stockholm?  Are there good
places to go dancing - not too crowded, good floor, good music?  We
are especially interested in latin dancing and swing/jive, but also
smooth too.

          Adrian

Adrian Goldman                         |  Internet:  Goldman@Ala.BTK.UTu.Fi
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From: stepan@natinst.com (Stepan Riha)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Re: patterns for competition dresses
Date: 27 Jan 1993 09:03:34 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.natinst.com

>I noticed this advertisment in the Sapphire Ball (San Jose,  Cal, 
>Nov 1992) program.
>------------------------------------
>PATTERNS FOR BALLROOM DANCE COSTUMES
>
...
>
>LJR DESIGNS, 4813 W. LOVERS LANE, DALLAS, TEXAS, 75209
>(214) 352-3739
>------------------------------------------------------

I have their catalogue and have ordered patterns for men's latin costumes
from them.  The patterns I got look relatively simple to make.
They have several women's patterns, some of which come with both latin and
smooth skirts.  The dresses look quite nice (on the sketches :-) and are
probably no too hard to make, especially for an experienced seamstress.
BTW, the men's patterns are around $20 (pants and shirt or 2 pants or 3 shirts)
and the women's patterns are around $28 (dresses with variations of bodice
or skirt).  The catalogue has nice fabric samples.  But, if you want to use a
fancy sequined fabric and you order it through LJR the dress is going to get
REALLY expensive.

	- Stepan
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   Stepan Riha -- stepan@natinst.com
From: mmcohen@cats.ucsc.edu (Michael M Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Re: Brigham Young Dance Camps
Date: 27 Jan 1993 15:03:07 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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In article <1993Jan27.102139.25187@abo.fi> GOLDMAN@ALA.BTK.UTU.FI (Adrian Goldman, BTK x8029) writes:
>How many people are there in each class at the Dance Camp?  I might be
>interested in going (if I can tie it in with a visit to the U.S.).  But,
>in my experience at some dance weekends, the classes are much too crowded
>(like 100 + people) and the floors are dirty and/or made of concrete.  Which
>means that it's rather hard to learn anything -- sure you can pick up a new
>combination or two but that's about it.

Class size varies between about 30 and 100 depending somewhat on level.
Advanced classes seem to generally have fewer. But the large classes
are in large rooms. Dance floors (all wood) and other conditions are generally
excellent. One classroom in second building is sometimes a bit hot.
Teachers are also generally excellent and include US and world champions.
Housing is in the BYU dorms, but you can also stay at a nearby motel.
The food is plentiful but no coffee or tea by BYU regulations. No smoking also.
The snackbar seems to have had its prices set about 15 years ago...
You had better get your application in a week ago which my be difficult.

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From: GOLDMAN@ALA.BTK.UTU.FI (Adrian Goldman, BTK x8029)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
Subject: Stockholm! - not Brigham Young!  whoops!
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:00:49 GMT
Organization: Centre for Biotechnology, Turku, Finland
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re my last post.  The subject, of course, should have been Stockholm.  So,
again, does anyone know anything about good places to go dancing in
Stockholm if we went across for a visit?  We would like not too crowded,
good dance floor, and good music.  Preferably latin or swing/jive but
smooth is good too.  Any/all information appreciated!

               Adrian (blush).

Adrian Goldman                         |  Internet:  Goldman@Ala.BTK.UTu.Fi
Centre for Biotechnology,              |  Bitnet:    AGoldman@Finabo
P. O. Box 123,                         |  Phone:     358-21-6338029   
Turku, SF-20521                        |  Fax:       358-21-6338000   
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From: cabr01@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Highland Annual Ceilidh
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:50:14 GMT

An Comunn Ceilteach           Edinburgh University
Oilthigh Dhu Eideann          Highland Society.   
 
            Proudly Present the

              HIGHLAND ANNUAL 

on the 12th February in Chamber St House, Edinburgh, 
from 8pm to 3am.

The  Herculean Ceilidh Band amd
The Sandy Brechin Band will provide the Ceilidh music.
In addition to this there will be a number of other singers and
musicians appearing elsewhere in Chamber St House.



Tickets are priced 5 pounds to non-members, 
                   3 pounds to members and 
membership is      2 pounds.

Tickets are available from :-
The Hebrides Bar, Market St, Edinburgh,,
The West End Hotel, Edinburgh,
Steven Heddle Rm 4315 JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh,
Micheal Davies, Celtic Dept, George Sq, Edinburgh,
and Potterow Shop, Edinburgh.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.dance
From: murty@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTY Hema Sandhyarani)
Subject: Elaine Hunter School of Dance in Ottawa
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:43:04 GMT

Those of you who are followers of ballet, which is probably most
of you, will be pleased to know that there was a terrific 
program today of Indian classical Kathak dance by Anjali Patil.
This great dance was performed with a mixture of dancers performing
ballet from the Elaine Hunter school of dance in Ottawa.

I am always surprised at the lack of postings on Indian dance
on this newsgroup as India has a varied set of intricate dances -
namely Bharata Natyam, Kuchipudi, Kathak, Odissi and Kathakali.
A few others are Manipuri, Mohini Yattam and they are ALL different!

Anjali Patil teaches kathak.  There is also another school in Ottawa
apparently - the Kadam Academy of Dance - which is also into kathak.
Anyone know of this Kadam Academy.  I am trying to contact them.

Just thought I would diversify the general strain of postings on
this newsgroup.

Hema


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From: dusenbury@rddvax.decnet.lockheed.com
Subject: Swing Dancing in San Francisco
Gatewayed-From: ballroom@athena.mit.edu
Reply-To: dusenbury@rddvax.decnet.lockheed.com
Organization: None
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:07:51 GMT
Keywords: ballroom, mailing list

There is a swing dance every Saturday night at the Metronome Ballroom
in San Francisco, which I really enjoy. The Metronome is a large ballroom
at 1830 17th Street at the corner of 17th and DeHaro. To get there from
Los Altos (about 45 minutes) take the Hwy 101 Bayshore Freeway to San
Francisco, following Signs to the Bay Bridge (NOT the Golden Gate) which
is Interstate 80. Take the Vermont St exit (1 mi past Army St) and go
left onto Vermont, immediately right onto 17th. The Ballroom is 3 blocks
down 17th on the left.

Jay Dusenbury
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From: matta@bioc.rice.edu (Matt Alexander)
Subject: Houston moviegoers please help
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Rice Univ., Dept. of Biochem
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:48:10 GMT

Hello,
	I have recently been exposed to a unique experience called "The Cinema 'n
Drafthouse"  It is a movie theater, that has tables and chairs instead of
regular seats.  The theater is a second run theater which means it shows
movies taht have been out for a while, but are still good films(usually). 
The catch is that you can order food(beer, wine, pizza, burgers, nachos
etc) and eat while eatching the film.  The price of the food is very
reasonable, and since it is a second run theater it costs $2.00 or less to
get in.  I am thinking of getting the rights to put one in the houston
area, hopefully near Rice.  Is this the sort of thing that people would be
interested in?  I am from Minnesota, and the one there is doing very well. 
Please feel free to E-mail or post a reply.
Thanks for your help.

Matt Alexander
Rice University, Dept of Biochemistry and Cell Biology
matta@dingo.rice.edu
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Michael Mann (was Re: MANHUNTER/SILENCE OF THE LAMBS)
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:26:19 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <C177Bx.LyK@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, twr43417@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 
(Trevor W. Ramsey) writes:

>   Mann's style was intriguing, but really only held our interest for a 
>   brief moment.  Once you've seen "Miami Vice" or, the infinitely better 
>   follow-up, "Crime Story," you can predict exactly how Mann is going to 
>   execute his productions.

Please clarify here Trevor...do you think Michael Mann's most recent film,
_The Last of the Mohicans_, is executed just like his other projects that
you find so predictable?

Correct me if I mis-read that.

Greg Bole                          "I always wanted to be an orphan.  I could 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu          have, if it wasn't for my parents."
                                         Gary Oldman in _Prick Up Your Ears_
From: dah@cveng121.veheng.det (Dewane A. Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: THE FIRM (Who's in it?)
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:43:27 GMT
Reply-To: dah@cveng121.veheng.det
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


I believe Julia Roberts has been selected for the Pelican Brief (by John Grisham)
as the female law student (Darby ???).
From: hal@radio.wkar.msu.edu (Hal Prentice)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Year Kubrick's _Dr. Strangelove_ was released?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:27:58 GMT
Organization: Broadcasting Services, Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: prentice.wkar.msu.edu

In article <kim3.727653427@husc.harvard.edu> kim3@husc10.harvard.edu (Jason Y. Kim) writes:
>From: kim3@husc10.harvard.edu (Jason Y. Kim)
>Subject: Year Kubrick's _Dr. Strangelove_ was released?
>Date: 21 Jan 93 21:57:07 GMT
>Help, I've cited this film in a paper but I don't know what year to include
>in the bibliography! If you know, please e-mail me quick.
>
>Thanks,
>-- 
>
>
>                              ~  Jason Y. Kim  ~
>                                     ~=@=~
Can't exactly precise but it was probably 1963, certainly no later than 
1964.
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From: kilborn@iastate.edu (Scott E Kilborn)
Subject: Re: Who from Poltergeist
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:06:30 GMT

In <302510d29@ofa123.fidonet.org> Jay.Majer@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:

>JW>       I was BSing with a friend recently and claimed that a lot
>JW> of the cast from the original Poltergeist film have died.  But
>JW> I didn't really know who, so could someone who knows post a list
>JW> of who's dead, what character they played and how/when they died?

>Heather O'Rourke, the little girl, died very shortly after POLTERGEIST
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>III was completed. (The movie was dedicated to her in the credits)
>Also, the girl who played O'Rourke's older sister in the first film
>either committed suicide or was killed by her boyfriend (I forget
>which). Finally, the old guy who played Kane in the second film died
>before part III was made.

> * Q-Blue v0.7 *
>--- Maximus 2.01wb

I just saw this last weekend and I was wondering if she died before
it was done.  In the final scene, when they all come back to "this side"
they never show Heather O'Rourke's face.  They just show a back view of
her Aunt holding her, and it looks like she has much shorter hair than
she did earlier in the movie (possibly a stand-in after she had died??)
Also, does anyone remember what she (Heather) actually died from.  Her
whole face was swollen up really bad in III, but I can't remember what
she actually had. (My girlfriend and I watched all three back to back 
this weekend).

-Scott Kilborn (kilborn@iastate.edu)

Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: jrs@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Janet R. Starosta)
Subject: Re: Who from Poltergeist
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:37:12 GMT


>What did Heather O'Rourke's cause of death?  Anybody in netland out there
>know more about these people?

She died from a complication during an operation for some
sort of cysts in her intestines. 
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From: rhogan@aludra.usc.edu (Ron Hogan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Leeper Screws the Pooch on CHAPLIN
Date: 20 Jan 1993 23:52:53 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

Mathew Melmon writes:
>>Pickford deserves the title "First Movie Star" - she was the
>>first "Biograph Girl" audiences began to identify with repeatedly,

>I'd have to check my sources to be sure, but I believe this is not correct.
>Alas, I cannot remember the name of the actress who this honor belongs to
>(it was definitely an actress, not an actor), but it wasn't Pickford.

Florence Lawrence, who gained lots of fame when Carl Laemmle hired her
away from Biograph and renamed her the "IMP Girl" after his Independent
Motion Picture Company.  He then built a massive publicity campaign
around her, which included accusations that Biograph and other members of
the Patents Trust spread rumors of her death.

Ron Hogan
rhogan@usc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: cal@gsbux1.uchicago.edu (Cal Lott)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: UNFORGIVEN
Keywords: author=Stoneheel
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:40:37 GMT

buckmr@vccsouth07.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:

>moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:

>>In <1993Jan15.150257.9078@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> mich@libra.math.tau.ac.il (Stoneheel Michael) writes:
>>>     Eastwood's UNFORGIVEN is probably the best Western created in the
>>>last ten years, nothing less and nothing more.

	Given time, I beleive that UNFORGIVEN will be seen to be one of the
most important Westerns in the history of film.

>>No arguments, but this is something of a backhanded compliment; about the
>>only western of merit that I can think of in the last ten years *other* than
>>UNFORGIVEN is SILVERADO -- and that was a very, very good horse opera.

	SILVERADO just doesn't hold up to UNFORGIVEN. SILVERADO is a very
fun movie with some good performances in it, but is a little too much of a
showboat. In UNFORGIVEN, Eastwood gives the entire genre of westerns a very
gritty and convinving reinterpretation. SILVERADO is simply a fun romp
through well-known genre conventions, but doesn't dare to go beyond them
and give the movie-goer a new and different perspective. Eastwood and his
troupe of actors succeed brilliantly with this in UNFORGIVEN.

>>I'd say that UNFORGIVEN is one of the four or five best westerns ever made
>>-- which makes it one of the best American movies ever made.  I'd also say
>>it's the best film released in 1992; but that's more arguable than the
>>previous statements.

	I would agree.

>Well, if you say it is the best AMERICAN film of 1992, i'd agree!
>[I think HOWARDS END should win Best Picture, though]

	UNFORGIVEN is the best movie that I saw in 1992. (Alas, I did not
get a chance to see HOWARD'S END.) The only other movie that even comes
close was THE CRYING GAME. (Which was, I beleive, released in 1992, even
though I saw it in 1993.)

						-Cal
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From: st1sq@Rosie.UH.EDU (Charles Foster Kane)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: **ATTENTION JAKE VAUGHAN**
Date: 25 Jan 1993 23:25:28 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: st1sq@Rosie.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu

To Jake Vaughan of Purdue:

     Reply to this message through email !

From Your Houstonian friend, Milton.

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From: cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike")
Subject: Re: Ridley and Tony Scott
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:20:04 GMT

FLY@EZINFO.VMSMAIL.ETHZ.CH  writes:
> 
> Can anybody tell me facts of future productions of the great
> directors RIDLEY and TONY SCOTT ?
> Gossip says Tony is working at TRUE ROMANCE (Ch.Slater,Dennis Hopper..).
> 
> I would enjoy detailed infos a lot.
> 
> 				Thanks in advance     Chris
> 
	I heard on the net a few weeks ago that Ridley Scott
was working on a SF film, but I heard nothing more.

	--Chris Wrike
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: evans@jazz.concert.net (Larry Evans)
Subject: Re: Trivia quiz (along a recent thread)
Organization: Center for Communications, MCNC; RTP, NC
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:55:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.224848.23979@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
>In article <1993Jan19.084345.10822@Csli.Stanford.EDU> I wrote:
>>
>>Along a recent thread in trivia quiz format:
>>* What do the following movies have in common?
>>	Around the World in 80 Days
>>	Exodus
>>	The Man with the Golden Arm
>>	North by Northwest
>>	Spartacus
>>	West Side Story
>>* Can you name more along the same line?
>
>All right, I posted the above a couple of days ago and got
>virtually no response.
>Was it that hard?
>Was it that uninteresting?
>Or -- DOES NOBODY LIKE ME?  (sniff ;-)
>
>So here's the second try:
>The thread I mentioned was that on credit lines (from "peeves" thread);
>but let's generalize it to title sequences in general.
>All the above movies (admittedly, they're old) have very impressive
>titles, either at the beginning, end, or both.
>They are the design of a single person -- who is it?
>


Saul Bass?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:28:33 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1993Jan21.195029.5284@Princeton.EDU> spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun) writes:
>
>I hate to break this to you, but there *ARE* an incredible number of
>stupid people in the world.  I have had people stand in front of a
>marquee (with large easy-to-read numbers) and ask me what time the next
>showing was.

Gee whiz, are you the same guy who mentioned that you should never
trust the session times shown in the news paper?

Perhaps you should give us a guide to the likely veracity of any of
the many sources so that we can avoid the same mistake.

Sort of a :

	Newspaper	"Ha, we can't be bothered getting these right."

	Marquee		"Spot on, every time."

	Employee	"Hey man, I only work candy counter."

	Word of mouth	"Uh-uh."

	Projectionist	"Hell, he never arrives on time anyway.

	Phone		"Well, the tape was up to date last month."

Perhaps some of the cinema workers who read this group should learn
something about customer service?

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From: mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell)
Subject: Re: Well know film, well know actor (to be)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:54:37 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <hal.90.727629710@radio.wkar.msu.edu> hal@radio.wkar.msu.edu (Hal Prentice) writes:
>In article <16B5D68A8.GRAJEK@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> GRAJEK@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Susan Grajek) writes:
>
>I seem to remember seeing a very young Richard Dreyfus as this sort of 
>backstage gofer in "Valley of the Dolls."  He knocks on Patty Duke's (?) 
>dressing room door to tell her she has to go on.  At least the scene went 
>something like that.  I haven't seen the film in years and hope to never 
>again.
>

I dunno about that one, but he was in the _Graduate_ with one line,
"Want me to call the cops?" or something close to it.

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