HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Alternative uses for Aerostitch
Date: 6 Nov 1992 00:31:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) says:

>In article <1dc22eINNda7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker) writes:
>>
>>
>>I finally received my latest addition to my wardrobe, a red and black
>>Motowear suit.  It's similar to the Aerostitch, but $300.00 chaeper.
>>Better yet, tell me why I shouldn't use it for skiing.  It seems now
>>that I can use it year round.
>>
>
>I thought the reason for these high dollar outfits was so that you could
>ride year round?
>
>Jeff Achenbach
>
>
As much as I would like to agree, the Alazzurra doesn't particularly handle
it's best in two feet of snow.


-- 
------------------------------------------------------------>DarkMan-------->
Case Western Reserve University,  Cleveland, Ohio            DoD #650
Anyone know where a BSME can get a job?  Available 1/93.  This is for real!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Re: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:58:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.180340.23736@ncsu.edu> news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.153513.19801@spdc.ti.com> serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:
>>
>>The following story, relayed to us by a MSF:RSS instructor about a friend of
>>
>
>Oh goody! Just what we need - a FOAF story. Did you make sure to crosspost it
>to alt.folklore?  Road rash is not a trivial problem. All of use realize
>the importance of protective gear (boots, helmet, leathers/kevlar).
>Please do not make a mockery of our credo by posting non verifiable BS.
>

The story doesn't matter - the moral does. And that is it's the responsibility
of the rider/owner to make sure the passenger has the choice of dressing
protectively. If the passenger doesn't want to wear protective clothing, then
that's their choice.  *But* give them the choice. The first thing that people
say when I offer them a go on the back is "Bikes are dangerous". I placate them
with the offer of protective clothing, then most will accept a ride.  It shows
you've considered them, and that you probably aren't a loony slaughterer of
innocent passengers.

Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor DoD #981 (rct@fulcrum.co.uk)              Heard on Radio 4:-
"One of the first signs of the male menopause is buying a Harley Davidson."
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Break-in (what is it?)
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:51:29 GMT
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs


In article <1dc2gpINNkmf@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com writes:
|If this is one of those "sucker" questions, well, fuck it,
|somebody was probably really wondering, anyway.

Thanks for answering-- I was wondering recently.  

Actually, I knew what happened during break-in, but asked a
related question of a friend.  I was specifically wondering
about the kinds of engine behavior I could expect during
break-in.  I noticed that my engine was visibily (on the tach) &
audibly varying in speed, especially when cold, and wanted to
know if this was normal.  Turns out that this is more of a
warm-up thing than a break-in thing.

I, for one, appreciate helpful answers to newbie questions.

---
cj@sgi.com    	ceej@well.sf.ca.us		
C J Silverio	'92 Seca II	DoD #0526
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Bikes Indoors (Was Re: SOMEONE TRIED TO STEAL MY)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:28:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.200645.20526@eos.arc.nasa.gov> phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:
|
|Once when I was in college and living in student housing, a tropical
|storm was headed my way.  I couldn't bear to leave my cherished CB350
|out in the deluge, so I wheeled it into the living room.
|
|About 7 o'clock that evening, I was startled to hear sirens and see
|a firetruck, in full emergency-light regalia, pull up outside.
|There was pounding on the front door, and when I opened it, a very
|large, full-suited fireman glared at me and said "Get that goddamned
|BOMB out of the house!  NOW!"
|
|Seems they were just on their way back from a call, and saw the bike
|through the front window.  They were not amused.

Hmmm.  How did he know that there were ANY combustables in the bike?
I mean, I could fully understand the owners of the property getting
upset, but the fire department?  Though I don't agree with it, I have
no doubt there are fire codes prohibiting having non-approved containers
of gasoline indoors, but how did he know?  Whould he have beat your
door down if you didn't answer, just to find out?

But then, you were in a college dorm.  At least when *I* went to college,
that means you had NO rights.

(A buddy of mine rebuilt a Suzuki 350 in his dorm room in college.  He
didn't get any grief, but we had a pretty cool staff, and he had a cool
roommate.)

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Turning on bumpy roads
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:15:40 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1dbqsfINNkho@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us, dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
>>
>>-> I don't know, how fast is fast?
>>
>> "It'll go fast enough to kill ya, boy, an' you cain't go no faster'n
>>that!
>
>That's dumb.
>
>40 mph is plenty fast enough to kill ya, boy, an' I go faster'n that
>every day.

on a bike ?????

>
>---
>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
>  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
>DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
> (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...


-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: quiniou@bnr.ca (Henri Quiniou)
Subject: Re: BMW R80/6 manual
Reply-To: quiniou@bnr.ca (Henri Quiniou)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:57:00 GMT

I haven't seen any book dedicated to a specific year, but it
doesn't matter much for BMW boxer models anyway as they don't
change much year after year. 

In the Clymer edition ('74 models and up I guess), every diference between models are covered, but these are mainly
on external parts (frame, wheels, accessories...) as the engine
comes right from the museum, with very few variations.

Anyway, they have pictures to show diferent versions of, say, air
intake pipe along the year and you should be able to find all the
information you need.

Good luck,

Henri Quiniou
(Post it, no e-mail, sorry)
From: erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR900RR question
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:15:35 GMT
Organization: pnet
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kdauster@crchh77b.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Kevin Dauster) writes:
: 
: Hey,
: 
:   Could someone who's had their cbr900rr a while tell me if the Bridgetone
: Battleax tires that come on the bike are the race compond or street compound.
	
	They are STREET compound rubber. Race comps are SS-Type 103's. I
know, I have a pair. 

: I read in a magazine they come with the race but the one of guys at the dealer
: said they are street compond. Also, does anyone know how many miles I can expect
: to get out of them. The dealer said probably 5,000 for the back and 7,000 miles
: for the front tire.

	Dealers don't know shit. How much mileage you get out of tires has
a LOT to do with how YOU ride the bike. Put it on the race track and the
tires will last a few hundred miles. On the street there's even more
variables. Freeway droning? You'll wear the center down in no time. I had
3,600 miles on my original set of tires and the rear was about done. Maybe
another 700 miles. But my mileage is almost exclusively sport riding in
canyons. I avoid freeways with the 900 like the plague. 


 ==============================================================================
  Erik Astrup                   DOD #683                            AFM #422

  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1990 Concours *  1980 GL1100 Interstate

      "This one goes to eleven" - Nigel Tufnel, lead guitar, Spinal Tap
 ==============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: Not A Problem?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:51:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov9.233536.6235@sj.ate.slb.com> desilets@sj.ate.slb.com (Mark Desilets) writes:
>In article <92Nov05.184404.10270@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>>In article <4227@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@atc1.UUCP (Tod J Johnson) writes:
>>>In article <BD.92Nov2120836@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>>>a grip on the value of a human life. 
>>>
>>>Very Sincere;
>>>
>>>Tod J. Johnson
>>
>>Tod....Fuck off. Please.
>>
>>Oh, and whilst you are about it, look and see how many lives you
>>could save by banning motorcycles. Shit, what's more important,
>>"human life" or being allowed to ride a machine which can
>>be conclusively demonstrated as unsafe.
>>
>
>	Yeah, and whilst you are about it, look how many lives you 
>	could save by banning swords.  Hell, a sword is more effective
>	than a gun at less than about ten feet.  Shit, what is more
>	important, "human life" or protecting your friends?....
>
>	. . . oh... this is rec.motorcycles????  
>
>
>									....  never mind

Never mind, indeed...You make less sense than usual, friend,
but here I don't need to be polite about it.

Live to flame, flame to live.

Regards, Charles
Dod0.001
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy)
Subject: RF200's wired for sound --- how did you do it?
Originator: robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 19:22:05 GMT

Do you have a Shoei RF200 with speakers, headphones, or other
sound-producing things in it? What do you use? Speakers? How big? How
did you put it/them in? Where exactly did you place them? Did you cut
out foam to do it?

In mine (size L), it seems my ears fall in front of the foam; the only
thing between them and the fiberglass shell is the padding connected
to the chin bar. So it looks like it will be hard to mount a small
speaker right next to my ear. Will mounting it in the foam behind my
ear be good enough? Should I aim it forward toward my ear? All advice
and benefit of your experience welcome. Please e-mail me and I'll
summarize to the net if there's interest. Thanks!

	-- Robert Kennedy

Robert Kennedy					(415) 723-4532 (office)
robert@cs.stanford.edu				(415) 322-7367 (home voice)
Computer Science Dept., Stanford University	(415) 322-7329 (home tty)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: GTS1000A; RADD front suspension
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:59:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.204041.7879@asl.dl.nec.com> drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp writes:
|
|Granted, to the untrained eye, an R bike does look a little odd.  However,
|it at least still looks like a bike.  I've just realised what the front
|end on the GTS reminds me of ... a wheelbarrow.  It's not like the Tesi
|with a nice, almost delicate front arm, it's got this huge, "spare piece
|of metal lying in the workshop" look.  Icky yicky.

Well, as long as we're talking about non-rational, emotional responses;
I see that big hunk of metal up there, with the substantial bolt securing
it to the massive omega frame, and the monster chrome shock, and it says
to me that this is a SOLID bike.  Not like those noodly forks on most bikes,
that look like coat hangars wobbling out in front, there.  

It's not SUPPOSED to be delicate.

I think it all depends on what you are used to.  I have no doubt that
something like the RADD suspension will appear on BMW bikes in the not
too distant future, just because of the undeniable advantages the design
can offer.  (I'm waiting for an 4-valve water cooled boxer engine'd R100GS
with a front swingarm and antilock brakes. :-)  And 50 years from now, we 
will probably look at old bikes of our vintage, (and the then current 
Harleys :-), and harken back to the good old days, when you had to grease 
steering head bearings, and when 160mph seemed FAST.

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Rubber brake hose failure?
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Reply-To: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:50:48 GMT


In article <1992Nov12.152248.26024@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, fist@iscp (Richard Pierson) writes:

>  I have not looked at MC stainless kits but when you buy
>Russel hose and loose fittings (I did my Waggoneer 2 years ago)
>the stainless hoses are rubber on the inside and the stainless
>is on the outside, are MC kits or hoses differnet I would not
>think straight braiding would do anything to keep liquids in.
>I also thought that the purpose of stainless was to eliminate
>rupturing under pressure and reduce wear due to friction of
>hoses rubbing against objects.

The steel braid is there to keep the hose from expanding under the
fluid pressure.  It gives a more solid feel to the brakes.  The braid
is most definitely NOT there to provide abrasion resistence.  In fact,
if the wires in the braid break they can penetrate the teflon core
causing pinhole leaks in the line.  The braid should be protected from
abrasion by a plastic cover like spiral wrap.  The SS brake lines on
my FZR400 came encased in plastic tubing sealed at the ends with
shrink wrap.  Very tidy.

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1988 FZR400            1985 ZX900 Ninja             1977 RD400D
            TCSI Berkeley, CA USA  (510) 649-3781
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Loud pipes: get some perspective
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:29:05 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <BxJ1En.43s@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>In article <1dolekINNfh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>
>>Ever heard of ABATE?
>
>You are right: I apologize for omitting them.
>
>>MSF supports helmet USE, and takes no official position on helmet LAWS.
>
>Also right.  But then why is there so much emphasis on the priority of
>rider training over enforcement of helmet laws in both the curriculum
>and in their publications?
>
A trained rider has a better chance of avoiding a collision than an untrained
rider (in theory anyway).  The primary purpose of a helmet is to reduce injury
in a collision.
     I'm not aware of the MSF taking a stand on the enforcement of
any traffic laws.  (They do sometimes get involved when laws regarding
motorcycle training funds are broken.)  In the MSF curriculum the *only* time
it is appropriate to discuss a helmet law is when the instructor makes a
statement concerning the existance of such law (if there is one), nothing more.

Simlarly, the MSF recommends that rider separate use of drugs and alcohol from
riding.  There is a place for the instructor to make a statement concerning
state/local laws and penalties.  I'm not aware of any actions by MSF wrt drug/
alcohol law enforcement.

Chas
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Subject: Re: NEEDED:  After-market Windscreen Recommendations
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:08:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.221038.12523@eos.arc.nasa.gov> keith@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Keith Harris) writes:
>From: keith@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Keith Harris)
>Subject: NEEDED:  After-market Windscreen Recommendations
>Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:10:38 GMT

>I need to replace the windscreen on my 86 Concours.  The stock screens are
>just too damned much.  I've heard a few pros and cons to some of the 
>after-market brands but nothing significant.  Does anyone have any
>experience with the different brands of after-market screens?  My concern is
>with the quality of the item, how well it fits, and do any offer better scratch
>resistance than the others? 

>Keith Harris    86 Kawasaki Concours

I strongly urge you to consider the Rifle windscreen. It's expensive, but it 
is of very high quality, and of clever design. I've had mine on for 42,000 
miles and have no scratches. The design allows you to have a screen short 
enough to see over, yet there is no turbulence or wind noise at all. If you'
ve been riding with the stock screen, you'll be amazed at how quiet the ride 
is. The design is two pieces, the lower is black ABS, I think, and there is 
a an opening between this piece and the screen which channels air up the 
inside of the screen. This is supposed to raise the turbulent zone well 
above helmet level and it works. I also used a Targa screen for a while and 
it is as bad as the stock for noise and optical distortion. National used to 
make one that was straight, but I never rode with one. The Rifle goes for 
around $150 I think.

Steve
DoD # 1951, COG, HOG, AMA
'86 Concours, '48 EL, '51 wife
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Re: Silver lining if Clinton gets elected
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:43:40 GMT

In article <2317@pico.qpsx.oz.au> conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au writes:
>: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS) writes:
>: >I have never accused Bush of being a Conservative (tm) but the main
>: >problem is the Democratic (read LIBERAL) congress.  Draft dodging?
>: >I'm not saying it was a good war but neither did you.
>: >By the way, if you Liberals are going to waste your time smoking pot,
>: >I don't have statistics 
>: >I loved hearing Gore criticize Bush 
>: >Jack Waters II
>
>In Oz, the  Liberals are a party on the left.  On the left of Ghengis
>Khan. Just.  Mind you, they do claim  to support democracy.  Which is
>obviously un-American :-)
>
>--
>Email: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au    KEEP ARNOTTS' PROFITS HERE
>Snail: QPSX Communications, Private Bag 24, West Perth 6005, Australia. 
>Numbers:(ph) +61 9 324 1641, (fx) +61 9 321 2984 (dod) 0604
>


That's quite a liberal mis-use of quotes taken out of context.

Just say "NO" to liberal urges.

-Fishnet
DoD#1919
From: druth@erg.sri.com (Doug Ruth)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: trip to South America
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:28:33 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

In article <1992Nov9.181345.14583@bmers95.bnr.ca> quiniou@bnr.ca (Henri Quiniou) writes:
>
>I'm planning a 2 months trip to go down to south America  next summer, and I'm looking for advices, so anybody who knows about the folowing matters (or wathever your imagination suggests) just POST IT (I don't have e-mail, sorry):
>
    [stuff deleted]
>   -any major obstacle (I know you can't cross Amazonia, but what about Panama,       Nicaragua,...);
There is no road thru the Darien Gap in Panama.  The Darien Gap is
a region, south of Panama City, north of the Columbian border,
composed of primarily jungle, rivers, and swamps.  Suggest reading:

"Obsessions Die Hard" by E. Culberson.  An account of his "ride" through
the Darien Gap.

"Two Wheels to Adventure", by D. Liska. A somewhat dated (I think he
did the ride around 1958-60), monumental travelogue of the author's 
travels from Alaska to the souther tip of South America on his BMW
R65.  Very entertaining reading with lots of photos.

>Any information (addresses, phone num), advice or personnal impressions are welcome.
>

Good luck.  I'm planning an extended year+ trip through Central and
South America, but it'll be several years yet before I go.


-- 
-- Doug Ruth         | druth@erg.sri.com  | SRI International
-- '91 BMW R100GS/PD | Work:(415)859-3860 | 333 Ravenswood Ave.
-- AMA #: 197665     | Home:(415)962-9808 | Menlo Park, CA 94025
--
From: erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: California Helmet Law - Help
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:10:20 GMT
Organization: pnet
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

jgraf@cyber.net (John M. Graf) writes:
: Oh Nooooooo . . . .       Not another helmet law debate!  
: 

	Ok, your wish is our command. No debate. 


 ==============================================================================
  Erik Astrup                   DOD #683                            AFM #422

  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1990 Concours *  1980 GL1100 Interstate

      "This one goes to eleven" - Nigel Tufnel, lead guitar, Spinal Tap
 ==============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Re: Bikes Indoors and Riding with Gas
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:39:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.190254.8516@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>I have thought of taking along a quart or so of gasoline as an emergency
>fuel when I go on long tours.  What is the net.consensus on what would be the
>best container for that, and where it would be best to put the container.

BAD IDEA.  You will be carrying a bomb which you INTEND never to use.  A 
better idea is to carry a length of hose to use as a siphon.  This can be
stored unobtrusively many places in/on the bike... inside the bars, taped
to a frame member, etc.  Having this semi-permanent addition to your bike
will serve you on short rides as well as long ones.  (Why do you plan on 
running out of gas on long tours rather than short rides?)

>(And I just know someone is going to suggest the classic gas trasportation
>container; an empty beer bottle. :-)

Perfect!  That is what you siphon INTO to transfer gas back to the bike;
unless you want to un-/re-install the tank.
============================================================================
 "No hour of life is lost that is spent in the saddle." - Winston Churchill
    The Nashville Flash	  -   dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu   -   DoD # 412