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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:35:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.180342.27475W@viper.edb.tih.no> jorni@edb.tih.no writes:
>Commodore in Norway has more or less confermed the availability of
>an Amiga 4000 with a 68EC030, 4MB ram and an 85 MB harddisk.
>
>The price was the biggest shock of them all: NOK 14500,- incl. tax.
>
>That translates to about $1900-$2000 with an exchange rate of 
>approximately 6.5-7.
>
>Release (in Norway): Febr. 15th.
>
>This might not be too cheap in the US, but it sure caused quite a 
>stir here in Norway!

   If the price is true, that would still leave a more than $1500 gap in
Commodore's product line, between the A1200 and the EC030-based A4000.  
Commodore really needs to develop a system that would be positioned in between
the A1200 and the cheapest A4000; something like an A1200 with an 'EC030, '882,
and a detached keyboard would be nice.  However, Commodore has a history of
not marketing mid-range systems, so I don't think Commodore will start
marketing one now.

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From: suopanki@stekt3.oulu.fi (Heikki T. Suopanki)
Subject: Re: MAC, PC or Amiga?
Reply-To: suopanki@phoenix.oulu.fi
Organization: Unixverstas Olutensin, Finlandia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:32:50 GMT

>>>>> On 21 Jan 93 18:37:06 GMT, gel212@gel.ulaval.ca (gif19268 Systemes numeriques avances) said:

:> PC clone
:> cons:
:>     - Poor OS quality (Windows). 

Try running OS/2 on it then....

-Heikki

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From: c92andst@odalix.ida.liu.se (Andreas Stenmark)
Subject: Re: Advocate please...
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:14:20 GMT

bayko@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (John  Bayko) writes:

>    I'm pretty famillier with overall Amiga stuff - it's at least
>well supported in Canada. I'd like to know a bit more about how it
>feels in actual use. How easy is a "hello world" program that uses
>a window?

Just like this...(pseudo-like C code)
...
struct IntuitionBase *IntuitionBase;
struct GfxBase *GfxBase;
struct Window *w;

if (IntuitionBase = OpenLibrary("intuition.library", 37L)) {
  if (GfxBase = OpenLibrary("graphics.library", 37L)) {
    if (w = OpenWindowTags(NULL, TAG_END)) {
      Move(w->RPort, 50, 50);
      Text(w->RPort, "Hello, World!", 13);
      CloseWindow(w);
    }
    CloseLibrary(GfxBase);
  }
  CloseLibrary(IntuitionBase);
}
...
Something like that. You probably want a few more tags etc, but this
is the simple example. Or if you want the _really_ easy one:

if (file = Open("CON:30/30/100/50/Window", ACCESS_READ)) {
  Write(file, "Hello, World!", 13);
  Close(file);
}
...or from the shell:

echo >CON:30/30/100/50/Window "Hello, World!"

> What are the four easiest ways of crashing the OS (be
>honest)? Does it still stutter during disk access?

While programming it's not very difficult to crash the system. Just
use an illegal instruction, or use a library function without having
the library open. In normal use, one obvious way to crash the system
is to use poor software. If you don't, the system doesn't crash (at
least that is my experience under V37, rel 2.04). Not even under low
memory conditions, like under 1.3. And, if the system crashes, you
always get a chance to suspend the failing process, exit the other
processes and reboot.

I'm not really sure I can find four explicit ways to crash the system
under normal use. While programming, it's quite easy, but it doesn't
happen very often if you know what you're doing.

>    Thanks...

>John Bayko.

	/Andreas
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM Announces Price Cuts on A4000/A1200
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:51:33 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <C1AJL4.M6F@starnine.com> mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas) writes:
>In article <1jireiINNt6i@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>
>And yes, I worry about "eco-freaks" who can cause tremendous of amounts
>of valuable resources ($$$ and time) to be wasted on this
>"save the environment" fantasy.  I worry about placing undo restraints
>on companies like Rockwell, lessening thier profits, increasing the
>cost of goods and services, contributing to layoffs.  

I think it would be a very good strategy to look more after ecological
issues of all what our economy does. One practical example in my eyes
is the US car industry: It was forced several years ago (was it under
Carter?) into using cat's. They screemed and whined, but what happened?
The whole world agreed that this had to be done and followed, with
significant delay. And this time saved the life of your car industry,
I assume strongly. They already had this cat technology where the rest
of the world yet had to develop it (costs) or just bought it from some
US companies. So this is an example where ecological limitations has
forced your industry into progress and this way ahead of their compet-
itors. What more can you wish? And I'm sure there are many more fields
where you could use technological progress to save on the eco side
*and* gain industrial advantages (solar technology, hydrogen,...).

>We couldn't destroy the environment if we tried.  

I tend to disagree. Simply look at Tchernobyl. Only slowly it's turning
out that it has been much worse than first estimated, that a big
percentage of the inhabitants is deadly sick, and that that whole, *big*
region cannot be used for decades. And to answer to your volcano
argument: A volcano catastrophe is one big event, but then it's over
for some hundred (or dozen) years, and you can go back to business.
You can't in Tchernobyl.

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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 24 Jan 1993 02:20:13 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

'>One of the
'>keyboard styles I like least is the one that Gateway 2000 uses...  it's
'>got a bad case of the mush to the point that it reminds me of the Atari 
'>ST.  And I really don't need or want diagonal cursor keys... but I guess
'>it helps them reaches that buzzword critical "168 key keyboard!  Damn
'>this must be a good machine" for the ads...

	I gotta admit, I hate GW2000's arrow cursor layout.  I would have
   much prefered the inverted T layout much better.  As far as it being
   mushy, I like it that way.  I hate clicky keyboards.

							Greg Greene
                                                        ggg@kepler.unh.edu

'> Jerry Kuch (jerry@cs.mcgill.ca) | Don't whizz on the electric fence.
'> "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
'>  Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet."
'>                  --- M. Burns  "Treehouse of Horror II"
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From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: Move
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:05:33 GMT
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Eyvind Bernhardsen (eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan21.195853.7894@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Bevis) writes:

:  > I used to miss '..' and '.' on my Amiga system.  However, I got over '..'.
:  > Use of '/' to accomplish the same thing is actually easier to type.  To
:  > back out of my current directory and enter a new one, I just type
:  > '/newdir' at the shell prompt.  I like that -- better than '..' now.

: BUT why is there no '.'?  I find myself cding to the destination directory, then
: including the full path in the copy command anyway, since there's no '.'.  (Well,
: I used to, now I use SKsh :)

There is... You just use ""


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From: efp90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Pritchard EF)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Any working A1200s yet?
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:14:00 GMT

In <1993Jan23.222447.7031@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ccb8m@onyx.cs.Virginia.EDU (Charles C. Bundy) writes:

>In article <etxansk.727802722@garbod26> etxansk@garbo.ericsson.se writes:
>>
>> Are there any A1200 computers yet that actually work, that haven't
>>been returned by the stores?

>Hmmm?  My A1200 works fine, I just had a lousy harddrive which was
>cheerfully replaced, and now I'm porting 68hc11 development stuff
>and finishing up a project with it :)

So does mine, although I sent the first one back because the display
flickered b&w on my colour TV, the one I have now only does this when
displaying really nasty checkered b&w areas. I think this is something
to do with TVs rather than the A1200 (a friend of mines A1200 flickers
on his TV too).

>I'm willing to bet that the IDE harddrive is to blame in most A1200
>HD bug reports.  After all the A600HD hasn't had the same reports,
>and the IDE interface for the A1200 was probably lifted from it...

Yeah, I've had none of this trouble with setting maxtransfer etc., mine
is set at the default... or maybe its something only to do with NTSC
machines? 

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England.                                         signature, any ideas?
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From: dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: IBM NO LONGER #1?
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 08:19:05 GMT

In article <1jrte6INNvs@ub.d.umn.edu> rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.213633.16890@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>>
>>	Apparantly Microsoft has bypassed IBM and has become the largest 
>>retailer of computer products (RE: CNN last night).
>
>I also hear that Microsoft is under investigation for monopolization
>practices.  Imagine Microsoft going the way of AT+T, still big, not as

	Today I read some stuff about Nintendo. It appears that 1 out of
every 3 homes in America has a Nintendo, with something like 30 million
units, and an 82% market share of the video game industry. They also rake
in $4.7 billion a year, and spend 150 million a year on advertising.

	And that was due to advertising, not because of the quality of
the machine. 

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From: das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Amigan-whalloping Re: An Amigan does it *again* Re: clone prices & doom & gloom
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:14:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.193825.11100@oracle.us.oracle.com> dnavas@oracle.uucp (David Navas) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.004431.1490@usl.edu> das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>It could not be that Amiga users cannot afford to _not_ be familiar with PCs?
>
>Triple negative?!  The answer to your question is -yes-.  You may now sit
>down and figure out what you asked.  :)
>
>[Possible alternatives:
>	It could not be that Amiga users can afford to be familiar with PCs
>	It could be that Amiga users can afford to _not_ be familiar with....
>	It could be that Amiga users cannot afford to be familiar....
>]

Well, well.. you could not possibly be falsely incorrect!  :-)

>And for all you grammatically correct people out there -- THIS IS A JOKE!  :)

Heh heh, it is posts such as these that make c.s.a.a. worthwhile.

>David C. Navas						dnavas@oracle.com
>Working for, but not speaking on behalf of, Oracle Corp.
                                                    ... but you soon *will* be!
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From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: WB3.0 - Why so slow.....
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:31:54 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1993Jan19.031658.29955@midway.uchicago.edu> sjchmura@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>While I would never expect the A1200 to keep up with a 486, I am disappointed
>in the 256 color performance.  A 386-25+Windows 3.1 and a decent $100
>video card shows faster window updates.
> I must conclude that it is the
>software, and not the hardware, at fault here (but then again, outside
>of medicine, my conclusions are irrelevant).

Nope, it's the hardware. At DBLNTSC:HiRes No Flicker at 256 colors
you are sucking 100% chip memory badwidth. Since I doubt your A1200
(like mine) has fast ram then the CPU only has access to memory
during the vertical blank. This results in mud-sucking performance.
Add some FAST ram and you will see an improvement, bit no miracles.

And yes, modern acclerated SVGA cards are faster than AGA
when the SVGA cards are running Windows. This is becuase many
of the windows graphics primitives are implemented in the
hardware on the SVGA card.

But then again, even the fastest SVGA cards lack sprites and
BOBS and the things thak make an Amiga an Amiga.

I think AGA will compete very well with fast SVGA once programmers
learn to use the new OS calls for things like doublebuffering and
the multimedia extensions that have been mentioned for OS 3.1.

Ian.
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From: mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema)
Subject: New Amiga 4000/EC030
Summary: 4000
Keywords: 4000
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 19:27:21 GMT


  Well, I have been considering purchasing an A1200 HD and now I hear
that they are coming out with the new Amiga 4000 that will probably retail at
$1300 approx. Me thinking if I add another 2 megs of RAM and another 40 MB HD  
and a math coprocessor I will hit the same price.  Now if all these rumors 
are true then I definitely would want to wait for the new Amiga to come.
Now if only somebody could confirm these rumors, I could live with this
ugly A500 for few more weeks or I would instantly replace it with the A1200HD

Also anybody knows if they have any plans to replace the UGLY UGLY box A4000
comes in ? Well if they don't I am sure I can find something to cover the
UGLY CPU, so that I can happily compute without looking at the UGLY BOX. 

 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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Amiga User and Star Trek Fan (me too :)
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From: helz@ecn.purdue.edu (Randall A Helzerman)
Subject: Re: IBM NO LONGER #1?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:25:55 GMT

In article <1jrte6INNvs@ub.d.umn.edu> rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman) writes:

>I also hear that Microsoft is under investigation for monopolization
>practices.  Imagine Microsoft going the way of AT+T, still big, not as
>big as before, and you have 2 other major compeditors. 

There is a major difference between Microsoft and AT & T.  

AT & T was a government-created monopoly.  It was illegal to compete with
AT & T.  We had high phone bills because of government interference.

Microsoft isn't a monopoly at all.

>Who knows what
>competition might bring (like actually having companies of this caliber
>making stuff for the Amiga?).

Probably it will mean that whatever is left of Microsoft will be too weak
to compete with Russian, Indian, Japanese, or European software houses, and
we will have lost yet another industry due to government "help."
From: jprad@faatcrl.faa.gov (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 24 Jan 1993 23:05:54 -0500
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: faatcrl.faa.gov

root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:

>Get yourself a Northgate OmniKey/101 keyboard.  The control and capslock
>keys can be remapped.  They even include new keycaps.  I bought one for my
>UNIX box, rmkhome, that feeds this system, and for $100 it is a fantastic
>keyboard.  It even has a mode where it can be used on an Amiga 2000, and
>it has strong, industrial strength switches and a good feel.  Since the
>keyboard on this system, my A2000, is dying, I'll probably get another
>Northgate keyboard, unless I just break down and buy an A4000 first.

  The Omikey is a great keyboard, but if you're going to get one for use
on an Amiga make sure that they've fixed the reboot lockup problem first.
The one I have here always freezes after a VNP is done, have to turn off
the machine to get it working again.

 -jack-
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Subject: Re: Move
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??)
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:36:55 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
 <1993Jan21.164542.28799@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> <1993Jan21.195853.7894@en.ecn.purdue.edu>,<1993Jan21.203420.28063@ugle.unit.no>
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1993Jan21.203420.28063@ugle.unit.no>, eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.195853.7894@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Bevis) writes:
>
> > I used to miss '..' and '.' on my Amiga system.  However, I got over '..'.
> > Use of '/' to accomplish the same thing is actually easier to type.  To
> > back out of my current directory and enter a new one, I just type
> > '/newdir' at the shell prompt.  I like that -- better than '..' now.
>
>BUT why is there no '.'?  I find myself cding to the destination directory, then
>including the full path in the copy command anyway, since there's no '.'.  (Well,
>I used to, now I use SKsh :)
>

the syntax to copy everything from some place to the curr dir is:


copy ram:#?.blah ""       (the "" is the same as '.')





> > -bevis
>
>-Eyvind

Jim
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From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Subject: Re: Move
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:53:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.203420.28063@ugle.unit.no> eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.195853.7894@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Bevis) writes:
>
> > I used to miss '..' and '.' on my Amiga system.  However, I got over '..'.
> > Use of '/' to accomplish the same thing is actually easier to type.  To
> > back out of my current directory and enter a new one, I just type
> > '/newdir' at the shell prompt.  I like that -- better than '..' now.
>
>BUT why is there no '.'?  I find myself cding to the destination directory, then
>including the full path in the copy command anyway, since there's no '.'.  (Well,
>I used to, now I use SKsh :)

The current directory is referred to using the null string, as in

copy :blah/*.c ""

This is in the manual.  Read it.

>-Eyvind


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:35:00 GMT

In <C1FGos.4uo@unccsun.uncc.edu> msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu (Michael S McKnight) writes:
>Why in the world is Commodore making all of their new machines with the EC chips
>instead of the full blown versions?  The A1200 has a 68EC020, the proposed A4000
>-030 has a 68EC030 and I even heard that the chip in the A4000 was a 68EC040.


Now, the A1200 _has_ an 68EC020. The new A4000 models are said to have
EC030 _and_ 030. The A4000 definitely _has_ a real 040 despite lots of
people taking rumours into .advocacy again and again.

>Sure, it might be cheaper, but by how much?

The EC020 (so far the only EC chip used in a C= Amiga model) isn't that
much cheaper. But more is saved because it needs less PCB space. And
on a low-cost item as the A1200 every dollar counts.

>We should at least be given the
>option.  Using the EC chips makes virtual memory impossible and UNIX, should
>CBM ever get back into it, also impossible.

The 020 itself hasn't an MMU either. It is also questionable who in the
world would like to run UNIX on an A1200. The MMU isn't the only thing
missing. You'd need some Megs memory and a decent harddisk too.

>less than a full-blown version of its respectable CPU.

The 020 has no MMU, the only hint of being 'full-blown' is that it can
address more than 16MB (i.e. an EC020 Amiga is limited to 8MB Fast memory
plus 2 MB chip memory, an 020 Amiga would not have this limit).

You would need a real 030 which is much more expensive than an EC020.

Regards,
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