HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: OH my... look what I found...
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:39:36 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

HI all,

mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu (Me Mann) writes:
>>
>>if you get a chance, try: telnet ustlib.ust.hk
>>

>Ah no big deal... it is just he HKUST library online catalog.

Actually, a couple other people e-mailed me and told me this telnetable
site is no big deal...

well... sorry for making so much noises on the net... I was just so excited
to see something happening so close to home... (BTW, I live very  close
to HKUST).  So I figured I share my joy and the "invaluable" info 
with you folks... sorry.  *embarassed look*

>>PS: how come nobody told me about HYTELNET before?  
>Well have you tried other services too like Gopher and WAIS?

No... at least not yet... *embarassed look*  well... thanks, I will
check them out. :)


>Me Han Mann

from an idiot,  
Kelvin (who now understands what it means to be a "hollow barrel").
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: briant@icon2.eecs.nwu.edu (Brian Tom)
Subject: Jackie Chan movies
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:15:36 GMT


   I just saw my first Jackie Chan movie several weeks ago at a local
theatre in Hawaii, and I really enjoyed it.  Since coming back to Chicago,
however, I have been unsuccessful in finding where I could see more of his
movies.  A friend of mine told me you could rent out videos, but he didn't
tell me where exactly, other than it was some store in new chinatown,
and he's off in Ohio this summer.  

   Can anybody point me to video places in the Chicagoland area that rents
Jackie Chan movies?  Better yet, is there a mail-order company that sells 
his movies? (or Hong Kong movies in general).  


Any help would be sincerely appreciated.


Brian Tom

briant@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu
From: raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re:  Premarrital sex, daemon, and law
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:56:31 GMT
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

In <5537@transfer.stratus.com> cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung)suggested the way to curb premarrital sex.

I fail his requirments but I shall flame him immediately anyway.

His ideas are nothing new but rather actual practices in some cultures
some time. He just have to take this sophomoric attitude that his
sarcasm is too sophisticated for the audience of soc.culture.hongkong
without first giving us warnings. We can do less with your pedantry.
-- 
Just call me `Man'. 
"And why take ye thought for "    --   Matt. 6:28
raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
From: mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Charles Mok)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Hong Kong Movie
Date: 22 Aug 92 15:15:34 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Aug20.144439.26@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, wlau@austin.ibm.com writes...
> 
>The movie "Once Upon a Time in China II" is one of a good movies I have seen.
>Are there any other good movies recently shown in Hong Kong?
> 
>wlau

Sure.  The first episode of the same series.  Which is times and times better
than the sequel.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: c60a-aa@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Ka-Chung Wong)
Subject: In search of the DUCKS (UO students)
Keywords: freshman
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:53:47 GMT

To those of you who are Oregon Staters or U Oregonions,

My name is Leo Wong, and I am the HK Student Assoc. President in OSU.
I am looking for the Hong Kong Student Assoc. members (or better, the 
committee members) in University of Oregon.

Remember that we still have some unsettled disputes (the basketball game) to
deal with?  I know that you guys have had some internal structural conflicts 
in the past academic year, but I am sure you guys are not willing to break 
the little tradition of holding the annual "friendly" basketball game between
UO and OSU's HK students.

Also, my sister is coming to UO to study CS.  I wonder whether you guys have 
any kind of new student service such as picking up newcomers at the 
airport and temporary accomodation.

I know that there must be some Ducks out here reading schk regularly.  So,
even if you are not HKSA member.  Would you pleeeease refer this message to 
the HSKA people?

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Yours,
Leo Wong

PS could call : (510) 643-0111
	e-mail: c60a-aa@volga.Berkeley.edu
From: mvdvalk@cs.vu.nl (Valk v/d M)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: life is cheap but toilet paper is expensive
Keywords: movie, wayne wang
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:13:29 GMT

Has anybody seen this movie? What do you think about it?

Martijn van der Valk				e-mail: <mvdvalk@cs.vu.nl>
Dept. of Mathematics & Computer Science
Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
De Boelelaan 1081A, 1081 HV  Amsterdam, The Netherlands
--
Martijn van der Valk				e-mail: <mvdvalk@cs.vu.nl>
Dept. of Mathematics & Computer Science
Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
De Boelelaan 1081A, 1081 HV  Amsterdam, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: ibm01@acci.com.au (William Lo - Elvis? Why not?)
Subject: TEST, but a joke inside!
Organization: IBM Australia/Australian Computing and Communications Institute
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 07:26:44 GMT

Here's the joke promised,

A couple of seconds ago, an absolute idiot on his/her absolutely idiotic
net machine had happened to see a news item titled "TEST, but a joke inside"
which he/she thought was one too totally kool to miss. He/she is now looking at
that absolutely idiotic news, looks absolutely idiotic, possibly smiling. Guys,
say hello to that absolute idiot won't you?

---Well, I'm an absolutely idiotic, too, I regret that,
	Bill(just a test - jesus, how come my last post wasn't got off?)
From: wkau+@cs.cmu.edu (Wing Keung F Au)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: REPOST[***** NEED HELP: Events for C.S.A. ******]
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:27:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bt9ALq.JoB.2
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <9208171935.AA18228@moe.optics.rochester.edu> ng@moe.optics.rochester.edu (Baldwin Ng) writes:
> ...
>the new President to organise some NEW and EXCITING events.  We really
>want to see what kind of interesting activities other CSA's (both US & Canada)
>have.
> ...

since pre-marital sex has been brought up, how is that?  8-)

-- 

				    FRed W. Au
				    ...!cmu.edu!au+, au+@cmu.edu
From: jlien@pyrman2.mis.pyramid.com (Jeanny Lien)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: RE: ""CHAN""
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:44:53 GMT
Reply-To: jlien@pyrman2.pyramid.com (Jeanny Lien)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com

I JUST WANT TO THANKYOU ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR FRIENDLY RESPOND
TO MY (CHAN) QUESTION. I HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION ALREADY, SO
IF YOU HAPPEN TO SEE MY LAST POST AGAIN, PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND.

THANKYOU VERY MUCHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!


JEANNY LIN
From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Premarrital sex, daemon, and law
Date: 17 Aug 92 07:49:48 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne


In article <thomasc.714027643@spider.wri.com>, thomasc@spider.wri.com (Thomas Chin) writes:
|> 
|> John Chiu writes:
|> .
|> .
|> >I don't see pre-marital sex poses any big problem.  What I feel is that pure
|> >love in these days are just too hard to find.  Many can hardly find one during
|> >his/her whole life.  And so love/sex becomes some sort of substitute.  That's
|> >really depressing, but it is.  What can I say?
|> 
|> >Someone still hanging to seek a pure love,
|> >John Chiu
|> 
|> just a suggestion:  if you are to seek for pure love, forget everything you
|> just said in your article.  You have imposed too much conditions on a purely
|> emotional thing.  Pure love is between two persons, it is not bounded by any
|> morality and social standard.
|> 
|> another suggestion:  in general, practice pre-marital sex, seek for partners
|> with sex experiences, they would be much more dedicated lovers and would know
|> better in what they're doing.
|> 


Indeed. I found it strange that so many in the newsgroups talked about
pre-marital sex and love, are they related? It is quite an naive topic afterall,
there is no big deal about pre-marital sex per se, it is perhaps the attitude
towards sex as a whole which is more important.

A general question: What do you (not you, Tom) think sex is for?
And apart from the attached responsibilities (for example, possible pregancy or
possible acquiring STD), why is the distinction between "marital" and
"pre-marital" so important? If it is just our Chinese tradition or due to
some religious doctrines that one wants to follows, then there is not much
point to have a discusion here. It is all personal and all personal choice.

Lin Can
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Is Danny doing fine?
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 09:21:02 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor



Is Danny doing fine now?  Has he awake yet?  Got any news about him?


- Louis

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: memco@cns.nyu.edu (Matthew Merkelson)
Subject: nok.lcs ip #
Keywords: ip#,nok.lcs.mit.edu
Reply-To: memco@cns.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:10:05 GMT

Help. I don't know the IP # for nok.lcs.mit.edu. Could someone either
post it of mail it to me. 

Thank you.

------
memco@wotan.cns.nyu.edu                          There was a guy named Joel,
                                                 Not too different from you or me
From: jchow@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Johnny Chow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Asking for lyrics of a song
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:54:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: San Francisco State University
Originator: jchow@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu

Could anybody send me the lyrics of the song "lullaby"? Thank you.
From: al@XAIT.Xerox.COM (Al Fung [Xdom Contractor])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Leaving Hong Kong
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:21:07 GMT
Reply-To: al@XAIT.Xerox.COM (Al Fung)
Organization: Xerox Advanced Information Technology, Cambridge, MA

In article <1992Aug9.232339.21825@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:

Disclaimer: This is not a flame, just some random comments.
 
>you do--unless you become like Lao Zi who claimed to have no desire and
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>expectation.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^

"Lao Zi" never claimed to have no desires and expectations. He was smart
enough to know that even monks have desires and expectations - at least 
they "desire" to be "desireless" and "expect" to see the "truth" at some
point if they work at it hard enough. :)

What he was trying to say was that in order to really understand the
world around you, you have to observe with an "empty" mind. In other 
words, refrain from projecting your desires and expections onto your 
target of observation, because the moment you do that, it changes the 
world around you and you will no longer be an objective observer (the 
Uncertainty Principle? :).

>so, don't worry about the future and appreciate the experience you are 
>gaining right now.  Remember my article regarding my coming to the

I agree. Somebody once said that as far as life is concern, there are only 
three options: in it, above it, and away from it. It is straightly a matter
of personal choice. I personally choose to be in it and take all its 
consequences (sadnesses, uncertainties and all), because to me, the other
two options (ie. standing on the side line or walk away from it) doesn't 
seem that exciting.

Regards,

Al Fung
SoftFab International Ltd.,
One Kendall Square, Suite 2200, Cambridge, MA 02139.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: clee@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Cassian Lee)
Subject: Re: Bruce Lee's son
Originator: clee@mars.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:57:29 GMT


I was watching the Tonight show that other night. Brendon Lee, Bruce Lee's
son, was a guest on the show to promote his new movie. I have never heard
anything about him until now, does anyone know anything about him?? Is he
the only child of Bruce and his American wife ??

When I was in primary school, I remember there was a kid in Primary 1 or 2,
who at the time was known as Bruce's son, but he had BLOND hair and BLUE
eyes!! Brendon on the tonight show had dark hair!! He did look like he is
mixed though, and he is about the right age... Does anyone know whether he
dyes his hair so that he would 'look' more like an Asian martial artist, and
the son of Bruce??

Just curious,

Cassian
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas Cheung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re:  True love.  Warning:  No engineers need apply
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:13:36 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.


        This top ten list is taken from the latest engineering t-shirt
that is being offered at Ohio University.  The author is probably a
collective group of students.


        Top Ten Reasons To Date An Engineer

1.      Extremely Good Looking

2.      High Starting Salary

3.      Free Body Diagrams

4.      Looks Good On A Resume'

5.      Can Calculate Head Pressure

6.      Help With Your Math Homework

7.      Parents Will Approve

8.      We Know How To Handle Stress
        And Strain In Our Relationships

9.      Find Out What Those Other
        Buttons On Your Calculator Do

10.     The World Does Revolve Around Us...
        We Pick The Coordinate System

	
Following is my ten reasons on the bottom of a list of reasons to date an engineer.

X-9.	T-shirt and jean are their formal dress.  Hot dog and a 6-pack is their
	seven course meal.

X-8.	The only social life known of is to post and talk on the net.

X-7.	Flames like a monster on computer terminal and quite like a pussy cat
	faced with real people.

X-6.	Works from 6:30am to 7:30pm, daily. No morning kisses and no evening walks.

X-5.	No matter how hard you cry and how loud you yell, he just sits there
	calmly discussing your emotion in terms of mathematical logic.

X-4.	Listens to classic rock only.  Hates everything from Bach to Prince.

X-3.	Touches his car more than you.  

X-2.	Talks in acronym.

X-1.	Can't leave that damn pencil off his ear for a minute.

X.	Top reason not to date an engineer: ... ... ... ... ... ... ...
	Will file a divorce if you call him in the middle of debugging.

Copyright reserved. 

Cheung's Funky Shop Co.		
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cheung@mathcs.emory.edu (Shun Yan Cheung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Bruce Lee's death discussed...
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:27:54 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

Stay tuned tomorrow to CBS' `Inside Edition' where Bruce Lee's family
"tells it all" about Bruce Lee's death.
-- 
Shun Yan Cheung     |  cheung@mathcs.emory.edu      | Office: (404) 727-3823
Emory University    |  cheung@emory.bitnet          | Fax:    (404) 727-5611
Dept of Math and CS |  "Life deals you different suits. It's up to you how
Atlanta, GA 30322   |   to play them".
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: alaw@oracle.com (Alvin W. Law)
Subject: Re: For those who like UNIX and C so much!!!
Reply-To: alaw@us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:50:48 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


>I came across this article from one of the news groups,
>I think a lot of people out there are very interested in
>it. I posted this to see what you guys think, especially
>those have spent most of their programming life on
>UNIX and C.

>For all you amateur programmers out there,
>trying to make sense of the incomprehensible...

 I saw this on rec.humor.funny (or rec.humor, I forgot) around April 1991.

 It's a joke.  Take it easy.

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From: ang@theory.lcs.mit.edu (William Ang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: ftp site will be down for 3 days (nok.lcs.mit.edu)
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:47:14 GMT
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science


Nok.lcs.mit.edu will be down for few days so I could re-organize some
of the disks and upgrading system softwares.  If I could find another
machine that I could make the ftp area available,  I will post the
announcement here.

  William
From: ng@MOE.OPTICS.ROCHESTER.EDU (Baldwin Ng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re:  Premarrital sex, daemon, and law *&* PRE-M.Sex in Chinese Soc'ts
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:10:00 GMT


In article <Bt9B54.KB6.2@cs.cmu.edu>, Fred W. Au wrote:
>........
>In article <9208111854.AA02904@moe.optics.rochester.edu> Ng writes:
>> ...
>>Just wonering what people from Hong Kong, Mainland China as well as Taiwan
>>think about this issue.  Both os us are pretty traditional and conservative.
>>So, we are against people to engage sex before marriage.
>>
>sorry folk, i am at least an exception to your "we" and i enjoyed every
>single second of it, and i am still a blood donor, ciao, back to _MY_
>regular programming   8-P

Oh well, since you like P.M.S, just have to say: Good Luck, to both you and
your sex-partner(s)!  Hope you are a person(delete) "SAFE" person!

Baldwin Ng (ng@moe.optics.rochester.edu)
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From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:20:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Shenzhen stock trading on the 1st day
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

I saw it on BBC news. The riot is ture. Also I read from the Ming Pao monthly,
(or Ninety ?), day after the announcement of the share issue, millions of
ID cards from as far as nothwest China have been sent to try to buy (yes, buy)
application forms I understand one per each ID card.

What happen next? I don't know.

Yuk
From: gwang@uts.amdahl.com (George Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: New Netter
Keywords: new
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:35:49 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Howdy!  
	I graduated recently and joined the work force. Nice to 
know all of you.
	By the way, a friend of mine will visit Chicago next month.
How is the weather there?

George Wang 
gwang@uts.amdahl.com
From: lamb@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU (Ben Lam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re:  Premarrital sex, daemon, and law
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:24:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug18.032420.18886
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis Oregon

In article <1992Aug13.125634.3609@arizona.edu> raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man) writes:
>In <5537@transfer.stratus.com> cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung)suggested the way to curb premarrital sex.
>
>I fail his requirments but I shall flame him immediately anyway.
>
>His ideas are nothing new but rather actual practices in some cultures
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>some time. He just have to take this sophomoric attitude that his
>sarcasm is too sophisticated for the audience of soc.culture.hongkong
>without first giving us warnings. We can do less with your pedantry.

What cultures?


--Ben Lam
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: richeng@nbrwh75.bnr.ca (Randy Cheng)
Subject: Shenzhen stock trading on the 1st day
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:18:29 GMT


-- 

Somebody mentioned earlier that he want to know how was it like on
the first day, here is an article from China News Digest of bullet.
ecf.toronto.edu.  Can someone verify it ?????

=================>>>>>>>>>>>>

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
3. Shenzhen Suspends Stock Trading as Hopeful Investors Queue .......... 28
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Jian Liu
Source: AP-DJ 8/11/92

BEIJING -- After a day of riots by frustrated investors, Shenzhen, China
suspended trading Tuesday on its stock market as thousands more people lined
up for a chance to purchase red-hot shares, reports said.

Police wielding truncheons used tear gas, rubber bullets and water cannon to
break up protests Monday night by would-be investors who claimed corrupt
officials were hoarding applications to buy the coveted shares, Hong Kong
media reported. Stocks already issued on the fledgling exchange have shot up
in price.

At least 10 people - including some policemen - were injured, a few police
vehicles were torched and three people were arrested, the reports said. Some
protesters chanted 'down with corruption' and waved large banners with
anti-corruption slogans.

A Shenzhen city official who refused to identify herself, blamed the
disturbances on a small group of 'bad people.'

The angry crowd finally disbursed late in the night, in part because
officials promised to distribute more share applications Tuesday afternoon.

The city government closed the stock market for afternoon trading because
brokerages were so busy handing out the forms, said Shenzhen stock exchange
official Chen Xiaoling.

The violent protests Monday capped three days of growing disorder in
Shenzhen as hundreds of thousands of people - one million people according
to one official account - from all over China lined up for a chance to buy
new stock issues.

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