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From: udkf_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mark Underkofler)
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.games.frp.misc,rec.games.frp.advocacy
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.games.frp.live-action
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:25:10 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Seeing the proposal for rec.games.frp.live-action is wonderful.  I've
been a live action roleplayer for the last 5 years, involved in 
several different systems as player and game master/designer.  I've
been wanting a more distinct forum for discussion of live action
issues for quite a while.  Don't get me wrong, I'm also an avid 
player/GM of a number of 'paper game' systems, but I feel that 
live action roleplay presents a totally distinct environment for 
creative myth-making, with different issues and concerns than more 
traditional forms.  Creating a separate newsgroup would save time for
those people who are interested in LARP because they could go 
directly to the news which interests them.  It would also cut down on
the distracting bandwidth for those readers of the other rec.games.frp
groups who are not interested in LARP.  

All in favor say, 'Huzzah!'

				Mark Underkofler
				udkf_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr)
Subject: reposting of call for alt.fan.lemurs
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:26:01 GMT

I ask the USENET and alt. net community if now is not clearly the time for
alt.lemurs or alt.fan.lemurs, given the tremendous explosion in Lemur fandom.

Leading off with silly rhetorical questions aside... I'd like to propose
alt.fan.lemurs.  

Lemurs are small primate creatures native to Madagascar, which are vaguely
monkeylike but have woolier fur, long fluffy tails (on some models), foxlike
muzzles, and big googly eyes.  The name "Lemur" derives from the Latin word
for spirits of the dead, since Lemurs staring out from the jungle canopy
looked for all the world like some sort of apparition.  There are various
sorts of Lemurs: the ring-tailed Lemur is just that, with rings around its
tail; the ruffed Lemur, with a big white ruff around its neck; and the aye-
aye, which is a Lemur even though it doesn't like to admit it.

Lemur fandom has evolved to the point that there are now several schools of
Lemur fandom thought: the San Antonio "Ring-Tailed Lemur Babes" school of
thought; the Virginia "Lemurs are small mischevious critters that love to
swing on kitchen lights and eat Twinkies" school of thought; and the North
Carolina "Lemurs love to steal cars at night and go joyriding in Durham"
school of thought.

The Lemur mailing list having reached gargantuan proportions, I'm thinking
that it's time for an actual alt. group.  I'd propose as a charter the
following:

"alt.fan.lemurs is about Lemur fandom, telling of Lemur stories, and debate 
over the various schools of Lemur fandom thought."

And for a one-line description for your groups file: 

alt.fan.lemurs    all about Lemur fandom and folklore

I don't have the wherewithal to issue a newgroup message for a group, so all
us Lemur fans are dependant on the goodwill of someone on the net to issue the
message for us, if it is determined that a Lemur group would be worth having.

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Joel Furr                                                   jfurr@vtssi.vt.edu
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From: Richard.Banks@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Richard Banks)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: CFD: alt.fan.ayrton-senna
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:32:02 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service


I propose that a fan group for Senna be created.  Just for you people
who don't know who he is, he is 3-time World Driving Champion of the
preimer racing class is the world, Formula One.  

Comments?

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From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: New (and again, old) group proposals
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:51:25 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <13OCT199217483106@acad3.alaska.edu>
fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) writes:

> alt.rock-n-roll.classic (originally proposed October 1990)

I would like to see this as a newsgroup.  

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Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
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From: ccs@aber.ac.uk (Christopher "Jd" Samuel)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.dis
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:11:12 GMT
Organization: University of Wales - Aberystwyth - Prifysgol Cymru


In article <1992Oct8.214505.25554@aber.ac.uk> I wrote:

>>alt.comp.distributed.simulations


In article <BvtvnI.3wI@unix.amherst.edu>,
 twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) doodled:

>True, but would alt.comp.simulations.distributed make more sense?  (I
>have no experience with such applications, so I'm only tossing out
>ideas.)  It depends on whether the subject matter falls more under
>"simulations" or "distributed systems," and which hierarchy is likely
>to get more traffic.

I don't know.  I suspect that simulations may get more traffic, unless
people suddenly feel the need to discuss things like Plan 9 from Bell
Labs (in, say, alt.comp.distributed.os) or hardware hacking on a CM-5
(alt.comp.distributed.arch)..  :-)

BTW those weren't serious proposals, just ideas for a possible hierarchy,
    and they probably are already covered by mainstream groups..
    
Chris

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From: mike@raven.alaska.edu (Mike Kienenberger)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Update on alt.politics.* groups
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:03:51 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska, Fairbanks

In article <Bw7Mvw.36A@world.std.com> bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum) writes:
>Why start these newgroups now, with less than three weeks before the election?
>And couldn't all these candidates be served by one group called, perhaps:
>alt.politics[.us].minor-party ?
>
>Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com

I personally suggested forming:
    alt.politics[.us].presidential.republican
    alt.politics[.us].presidential.democrat
and
    alt.politics[.us].presidential.<other, though minor-party is great!>

This could prevent a reoccurance of the alt.politics problem every four
years.
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative,alt.thrash
From: kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess)
Subject: Re: Jesus Was Way Cool
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:53:12 GMT

glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha) writes:

>Wondering a bit...who did the song "Jesus Was Way Cool" (or similar title)?
>Thanks for any help!

>   gLITTOfERN
>glitto@iastate.edu


Either this is a joke or a real coincidence that this post would show up
at the same time as the multiple replies to the "what songs does King Missile"
do question, most of which ended up quoting "Jesus Was Way Cool."

Which song, by the way, I love....  :)  It's way cool.

Lena
Xref: sparky alt.config:6231 rec.games.board:9833 rec.games.frp.misc:6941
From: ...sage
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.games.board,rec.games.frp.misc
Subject: re: Proposal new alt.pub group
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:22:57 GMT
Reply-To: pcalvert@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Followup-To: rec.games.frp.announce
Organization: Great Library of Generica, basement
NNTP-Posting-Host: calvert.commerce.adelaide.edu.au

dshaffer@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donald A Shaffer) writes:
> [lots of stuff deleted]
>...  please post followups to alt.config or alt.pub.dragons-inn

Please do NOT post followups to alt.pub.dragons-inn.
alt.config, or rec.games.frp.announce (or misc) are more appropriate.

This does not concern alt.pub.dragons-inn, it is just a similar format.
If the group goes ahead then an ADMIN can be posted in the Dragons-Inn,
but please, please, please not before then.

Donald: I think its a great idea, and I'll vote pro Haven's-Rest, just
	please keep things separate from APDI for now. No flame intended.
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: markw@gvlf7-p.gvl.unisys.com (Mark H. Weber)
Subject: alt.hotrod ?
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:13:58 GMT

Did I miss the discussion for alt.hotrod? I haven't seen a newgroup
control message for it, but I'm getting regular traffic for it in "junk".
This looks like a mailing list reflector, too. 

Mark

Xref: sparky alt.config:6153 rec.music.industrial:11645 alt.music.alternative:12469 alt.thrash:1575
From: hennessy@acsu.buffalo.edu (DOG BASEBALL!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative,alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Jesus Was Way Cool
Date: 10 Oct 92 06:07:52 GMT
Organization: Ministry of Information, Lower Volta.


	That would be _KING MISSILE_...


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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC)
Subject: Re: killfile
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 10:32:59 GMT

In article <7OCT199202552266@acad3.alaska.edu> fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.234437.5342@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mbur@nyx.cs.du.edu (MAC) writes...
>>[deleted]
>
>Mike, go fuck yourself.
>

Yikers Sean lets not get out of hand. <snicker>

>It's even worse manners to assume that everyone has the time and the
>money to go out and buy their own computer and modem and outfit it with
>their own newsfeed.
>

You are not one for reading comprehension are you Sean.  It appears that
you have had your head further imbedded in your ass during this thread
than 'ol Joel.  And that's tough act to top.

Now, how you read my posts on this thread and came up with the above
sentence as what I had said is beyond me.  But, then again... I digress.

I never assumed anything.  I just made a suggestion, a little tip if you
will, to the cry baby in a.f.g-s on how to deal with net.noise, and the
whole thing just took off.  Do go back and re-read.


TTFN
M
From: news@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: alt.oobe chaos
Date: 11 Oct 92 14:46:27 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA

The recent alt.oobe newgroup was a forgery by Bruce Becker in Gary
Trujillo's name.  alt.oobe was originally created without any
discussion in alt.config, and it was eventually decided that the
newsgroup's name should be alt.out-of-body.  Shortly thereafter,
alt.out-of-body was created and alt.oobe rmgrouped.  If you have
alt.oobe on your system, please delgroup it or alias it to
alt.out-of-body.

If you have any doubts as to which of these messages is a forgery,
please write to me or Gary (gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us).  It would be
rather hard for Becker to forge a return letter from either or both of
us.
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative,alt.thrash
From: laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa)
Subject: Re: CREATE alt.music.hardcore
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:27:47 GMT

In article <BvuG27.MqG@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee) writes:
>Hardcore is a loose classification for a style of loud guitar based
>music. There are many hundreds of bands that fit this category and
>so room for much discussion. 

Hardcore is also a form of techno music (which uses no guitars whatsoever).
So if this group is created you'll have to chase all the technophiles who
want to know about that Euromaster's song that runs at 250 bpm and has some
guy screaming in Dutch on it out of the group.

Something to think about.

Laura
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative,alt.thrash
From: victor@canrem.com (Victor Kamutzki - user account)
Subject: Re: Jesus Was Way Cool
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:58:51 GMT

glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha) writes:

>Wondering a bit...who did the song "Jesus Was Way Cool" (or similar title)?

King Missile, authors of such other classics as "Sensitive Artist" and
"Cheesecake Truck".  Fun bunch of guys.  If you like "Jesus...", I'd
be hard pressed not to recommend any of their albums.  Even though the
names of their other albums escape me at this late hour...  :-)

Victor

Newsgroups: alt.config
From: chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: alt.society.cu-digest
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:59:54 GMT

In article <rich.718657531@pencil>
	rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel) writes:
>What's the story with this group?  I see rmgroups and newgroups for it.

That's because Bruce Becker gets a hardon whenever he sees a rmgroup
issued in the alt hierarchy.  I won't participate in his silly little
games.  The alt.society.cu-digest newsgroup is dead and has been
superceded by comp.society.cu-digest.
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<chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM>   |   - Taj Mahal
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: shipley@ug.cs.dal.ca (CHRISTOPHER JAMES A SHIPLEY)
Subject: hey.
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: ns
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:11:09 GMT

hello
-mike


:x
From: zebee@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: killfile
Date: 9 Oct 92 07:27:33 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>With regard to being unable to create kill files:

>Anyone who has an account on a machine with a full Internet connection
>may get an account on Portal, Netcom, the Well, the World, or any
>other for-pay service which supplies their users with a full range of
>newsreaders.  If money is a problem, they may even get an account on
>the Cleveland Freenet, the FSF machines, or the Turing project (and,

Please don;t show your US bias.

Not all areas have such systems available.

Besides, why have charters at all, if killfiles are all that is required?

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jfurr@vtssi.vt.EDU (Joel Furr)
Subject: proposal for alt.lemurs newsgroup
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:20:33 GMT

I ask the USENET and alt. net community if now is not clearly the time for
alt.lemurs or alt.fan.lemurs, given the tremendous explosion in Lemur fandom.

Leading off with silly rhetorical questions aside... I'd like to propose
alt.lemurs.  

Lemurs are small primate creatures native to Madagascar, which are vaguely
monkeylike but have woolier fur, long fluffy tails (on some models), foxlike
muzzles, and big googly eyes.  The name "Lemur" derives from the Latin word
for spirits of the dead, since Lemurs staring out from the jungle canopy
looked for all the world like some sort of apparition.  There are various
sorts of Lemurs: the ring-tailed Lemur is just that, with rings around its
tail; the ruffed Lemur, with a big white ruff around its neck; and the aye-
aye, which is a Lemur even though it doesn't like to admit it.

Lemur fandom has evolved to the point that there are now several schools of
Lemur fandom thought: the San Antonio "Ring-Tailed Lemur Babes" school of
thought; the Virginia "Lemurs are small mischevious critters that love to
swing on kitchen lights and eat Twinkies" school of thought; and the North
Carolina "Lemurs love to steal cars at night and go joyriding in Durham"
school of thought.

The Lemur mailing list having reached gargantuan proportions, I'm thinking
that it's time for an actual alt. group.  I'd propose as a charter the
following:

"alt.lemurs is about Lemur fandom, telling of Lemur stories, and debate over
the various schools of Lemur fandom thought."

And for a one-line description for your groups file: 

alt.lemurs        all about Lemur fandom and folklore

I don't have the wherewithal to issue a newgroup message for a group, so all
us Lemur fans are dependant on the goodwill of someone on the net to issue the
message for us, if it is determined that a Lemur group would be worth having.

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Joel Furr                                                   jfurr@vtssi.vt.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: mgm@world.std.com (michael g moncur)
Subject: PROPOSAL: alt.shenanigans
Summary: Why, it's a new group proposal.
Keywords: shenanigan joke prank practical hack frog
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:33:20 GMT


  
 PROPOSAL to create a new newsgroup: `alt.shenanigans'.
 
 PURPOSE:  For discussion of shenanigans in their various forms.  Ideas for
new shenanigans, discussions of old ones, and arguments over the merit of
a particular one would all be appropriate. 
 
 What exactly is a shenanigan? 
 ----------------------------- 
 A shenanigan is something that is done for no purpose other than to 
confuse or fool its intended victim.  Shenanigans differ from the 
mainstream usage of "practical jokes" or "pranks" in that they are,
above all, harmless.  Throwing eggs at someone's car is a prank; driving
backwards through the drive-thru window at an eating establishment is
a shenanigan.
 
 Although there is much overlap between practical jokes, pranks, and
shenanigans, I would like to make this distinction:  The victim responds
to a prank by saying, "Damn those kids!" or "I'll get you for this."  A
shenanigan, on the other hand, receives a response such as "Why would
anyone go to the trouble?" or "I don't get it." from 'normal' citizens, or
is responded to in kind by a fellow follower of shenaniganism.
 
 Why a newsgroup?  Why an alt.group?  
 -----------------------------------
 For some reason, shenanigans have always been very popular among the
`hacker' culture, and throughout the net.  There are undoubtedly other
discussions of the subject - in alt.hackers and alt.folklore.computers,
for example.  However, these are strictly computer shenanigans.  The
alt.shenanigans newsgroup will be a place for all shenanigans, ranging 
from computers to movie theatres to fast food. 
 
 Obviously, some people just don't `get' shenanigans, and I would not be
so bold as to propose that it become part of the normal hierarchy.  We 
believe that an alt group is the best way to ensure that those who don't 
want the bandwidth wasted on such frivolous things don't have to.
 
 Call for discussion
 ------------------- 
 We'll wait a week or two to determine the net opinion of this new group.
If opinions are good, or particularly bad, we'll see about sending the
control message.  Of course, if someone else were to send it first, far
be it from us to try and stop them - it is, after all, in the shenanigan
spirit.
 
 Michael Moncur (mgm@world.std.com) 
 Charles Perkins (perkins@admn1.law.utah.edu) 
 
 Please send all correspondence about whether or not to create this group
to mgm@world.std.com .  Yes votes, no votes, and forged email will all be
gleefully accepted.
 
 This message will self-destruct in 10 minutes.  Good luck, Jim.

 OBFrog:  ribbit.

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Xref: sparky alt.config:6224 rec.games.frp.misc:6931 rec.games.frp.advocacy:2824
From: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell)
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.games.frp.misc,rec.games.frp.advocacy
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.games.frp.live-action
Date: 14 Oct 92 06:25:26 GMT
Organization: Chalmers Tekniska Lekskola, G|teborg, G|taland

In article <1992Oct13.223631.28172@afterlife.ncsc.mil> mcwalla@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Mark Wallace) writes [but I've reformatted it, isn't 80 c/l milspec?]:
>With all due respect to Arthur, I'd have to cast my vote against the creation
>ofalt.games.frp.live-action for the following reasons.

  You can't vote against it, cause it's an alt group. You can't vote for
it either btw.
  
>Finally, I thought that an RFD had to go through the alt.newsgroups (or
>some other newsgroup).

  It's an alt group: it comes into existance in a most anarchical manner
totally without RFD.

>Vale,

-bertil-
PS: My position on alt.games.frp.live-action: Since you don't need a vote or
    a RFD, why are you posting it to rec.games.frp.*?
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: proposal: alt.fraternity.kdr
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:34:32 GMT

Soc.college seems primarily to discuss fraternity activity.  You could
keep in touch with other KDR members that way.  You might also suggest
soc.college.frat on news.groups (which died the last time it was
proposed).

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