From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: ISLAMIC WORLD NEWS (28th)
Organization: LC
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:38:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.231735.11707@panther.mot.com> ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.184737.2408899@locus.com> jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep12.005943.555@nysernet.org> astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein) writes:
>>>jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000) writes:
>>>
>>>> ARAFAT JUST BOWED HUMBLY AND HUMPLY FOR ISRAEL, AND RECOGNIZED 
>>>> ITS RIGHT TO EXIST.  WHAT AN IGNORANT STATEMENT YOU JUST SAID! ARAFAT IS
>>>> LOGICALLY KISSING ISRAEL'S APPROVAL FOR NEGOTIATION.  ARAFAT 
>>>> IS STILL WILLING TO KISS iSRAEL'S BEHIND. 
>>>
>>>Funny how I missed that.  I've heard about him telling some that he
>>>said it, and telling others that he hadn't, but I never heard about
>>>him actually saying it.
>>
>>Apparently you don't follow news, have a short  memory, or live in denial.
>>A couple of years ago or so, Arafat did so.  The first day the US said
>>that his  statements were not clear, the next day he was clearer on
>>the issues of recognizing Israel on Occupied Palestine, and on
>>renouncing terrorism. And accordingly the US opened dialog with the PLO.
>>
>>I hope you can do a little more research before throwing such
>>senseless statements at us.
>>
>>jle
>>
>BULL, BULL, BULL,
>
>Before I post (again) quotes of the beloved PLO terrorist.  jle would you
>please tell us why, if Arafat recognizes Israel (which he doesn't) is article
>19 still part of the PLO charter?  Would official removing article 19 be a clear
>sign that he have atleast "said the words", even if the Arafat is lying scum.
>Arafat has "sort of said", then denied that he recognizes Israel.  He gets
>BIG headlines when he says he recognizes Israel then quietly backpedals.


Yes, according to logic, Europeans don't have the right to come to
Palestine, kick its natives out, take their homes, land, cows, horses,
and name it Israel.  The PLO calls for all of the above to be returned
to its owners, and the return of the owners, which means exactly not
recognizing the theft existence of the state of israel.  However,
when Arafat did recognize the state of israel, he showed a sign
of surrender.  Apparently, the PLO saw that it cannot defeat israel,
and the Europeans have produced many generations there, it will be
close to impossible to actually send back those that came from Europe,
even their intention was not seaking safety and a better economic
target, their main target was theft and settlement in others houses.
Accordingly, we have 2 reasons for the recognition of israel. 

1- Israel's strength
2- The new generations that know 0 about Germany and their initial homeland.
   They think they are from that land.  

If Arafat could defeat israel now, he wouldn't wait a second.  But
by recognizing israel's right to exist on 80% of his land, he's telling
the UN that he surrendered, and is willing to settle for 20%.

It is in Israel's advatage to take arafat's offer seriously, this way
they can get him to sign UN papers of giving up 80% of Palestine 
(which makes up israel).  If they don't I am afraid that Islamic
Fundamentalizm is growing alot more than you can imagine.  Go to 
the islamic world and see for yourself.  Soon arafat will be worthless
among his own people, and what will count is only the word
of the Quran which is too dangerous for israel survivor.

I am just advising them to accept Arafat now, not because I am really
in love  with the WEST BANK's share, but there where their best interest
and advantage belong.

jle
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