From: rzantout@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Rached N Zantout)
Subject: STOP IT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:23:35 GMT

A friend asked me to post this message for him.


rached


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Subject: STOP IT (was Re: Religious bickering and 

I hope this personal war b/w ibaa, aziz, hamza, etc comes to an end.
One doesn't have to blame Hamza for all of this.  The whole war if
I am not mistaken started when aziz started making fun of what hamza
was saying, then later ibaa came and sided with aziz, then hamza
came back and did what he did.  Of course what I, personally, think
was a result of what others did to him. 

If this war is to come to an end, one of the following has to be done:

- All of ibaa, hamza, aziz are to stop posting to the sca
  and play somewhere else.
- All must exchange their messages by using personal email and
  not by showing off and stretching their brains on sca.
- All must not respond to one other messages by either ignoring
  them or using kill files.
- Aziz must stop criticizing islam and muslims.
  Hamza must stop criticizing christians.
  Ibaa must stop playing the judge of the net and 
  propose to people what they must post and what must not.

If none of the above is feasible, please all of you try to grow up
and respect others' opinions even if it was offending to you, and 
understand no one will change his mind because he reads few articles
of one of yours.  If christians want to post what they believe, let
them do that.  If jews want to post what they believe, let them do
that.  If muslims want to post what they belive, let them do that.
However, one has not ever try to insult, make fun, or what have you,
in order to deviate the other person away.  If one does, the problem
will get worse and worse, and we will end up to a situation like 
we are in now.

So please, all of you grow up and give up your stupid ways of 
shutting up other people.

This is really my personal opinion, the war parties may agree or
disagree with this.  But please take this message seriously.  I
don't wanna be dragged into this war.  If nobody of the war members
likes what I say, I apologize in advance.  I hope this
would be the last message in which we see names like, "o wise man",
"o christian man", "shut up", "idiot", "bottom of shoes more honest...",
"barabaric", "Hmaar", "Garbage",...

Just want to make a small comment on this, just to be fair:

oueichek@gram (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:

>   Hamza, i didn't insult you, i said you were insulting yourself and 
>   discrediting your cause, OUR cause. However, i hope you'll understand that i
>   by no way consider you to be the same kind of people than carasso (you are 
>   new to this group, i know him and i know his trick and how he provokes people
>   and put news-bobms in his articles, someone who posts articles to 
>   alt.sex.bestiality about Arabs having sex with camels is definitly NOT 
>   welcome here).

>From reading some of your messages, about 2/3 weeks ago, you posted an
article that was titled by "enough stupidity, shut up..."   I apologize
for not remebering the right name.  In that message, you called him
to shut up and stupid..  I hope you don't deny such a thing, as I can't
rember the exact words.  Also, you've been hoping that he stops posting
on the net as he goes back to school.  I think when you do that, he
will be more determine to stay on the net.  Ooops..

Hamza, if you are out there, please understand that I don't want to 
you to leave sca.  I have to admit I like what you say "most of the
time", but please learn to be patient.   This advise is also applicable
to all war parties involved.

>  May G-d forgive you for your bad thoughts about my intentions.
>  Ibaa

Amin

Final Appeal, if any of ibaa, aziz, hamza, etc finds this was 
a step towards stopping this war, please reply to this message,
saying that you will abide to it.


Taheeati
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