HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Trade Clemens?
Date: 21 Nov 92 02:54:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Nov21.025446.23279
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <By14H4.M9J@math.uwaterloo.ca> fass@math.uwaterloo.ca (The FASS Theatre Company) writes:
>
>Is trading Clemens a bad idea?  Currently, Clemens is arguably the 
>best pitcher in baseball and his market value would be incredibly high.
>From the performace of the Sox this year, and rumblings from various 
>disgruntled Red Sox fans, I'm guessing they could use an infusion of youth.
>I'm not sure of the Rocket's age but he has been around for a while and
>will most likely decline in 3 or so years (then again he could be another
>Ryan).   The Sox need to rebuild and this would be a viable way to do
>it.
>

Yes, it is a very bad idea. Clemens is a guy you build around, not a guy
you trade to rebuild. I just don't think you trade the best pitcher in 
baseball.

>Okay.  Now that I've caused all die hard Red Sox fans to put contracts
>out on my life for thinking such a thought, let's say you had to trade
>Roger.  What is the Rocket's market value?  What should the Sox get in
>return for the best pitcher in baseall?
>
>Lee.
>

Well, he'd have to go to someone who was planning to win in '93. Possibly
Toronto for Derek Bell, Stottlemyer and a couple of bullpenners. Sheesh.
It's real hard to put a trade tag on the best pitcher in baseball. I
shiver at the thought of Clemens for Juan Gonzalez. Talk about a steal. 
I'm glad that trade never came to be.

--Les
From: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Subject: Re: Clemens Market Value (trade with Toronto)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 20:41:57 GMT

In article <By4KDn.C2p@math.uwaterloo.ca> fass@math.uwaterloo.ca (The FASS Theatre Company) writes:
>In article <1992Nov21.190438.12406@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:

>So as I see it the Jays *could* trade 
>
>Delgado, Bell, Duane Ward   for Clemens.
>
>This is arguably the best minor league prospect, a talented, though 
>unproven, outfielder and a premier closer.  Is this enough?  Too much?
>what would the Jays have to add? Take away?  Please be kind.  I'm new at
>this.|-)
>
>Lee.

Throw in Wild Juan Guzman with Bell Ward and Delgado for Clemens and
Greenwell and I think it is the best offer I've seen here so far.  Ted?

shaun
From: grabiner@math.harvard.edu (David Grabiner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: What happened with Eric Wedge?
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:18:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: germain.GRABINER.92Nov18131650
Organization: /etc/organization


I agreed with the net.discussion on the Red Sox protected list; Pena and
Greenwell should not have been protected, so that prospects McNeely and
Wedge could be.  When the Rockies took Jody Reed in the first round, I
thought the Sox had lucked out; McNeely, Wedge, Burks, and an infield
prospect could be protected.

But then Wedge was taken in the second round.  Which four unprotected
players are better?  Have the Red Sox decided to dump Wedge because he
saw an outside doctor without permission?

--
David Grabiner, grabiner@zariski.harvard.edu
"We are sorry, but the number you have dialed is imaginary."
"Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again."
Disclaimer: I speak for no one and no one speaks for me.
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From: stewart@healthy.uwaterloo.ca (Terry Stewart)
Subject: Re: DH: PRO or CON
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:48:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.203326.12581@news.stolaf.edu> matgress@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Matthew W Gress) writes:
| I agree with Paul Anderson that the DH should be limited to the Majors.
| I do favor the DH, as it has allowed me to see many big names that I MIGHT
| repeat MIGHT not have otherwise.  Statistically, there seems to be little more
| that one standard deviation in runs between NL and AL, so the offense is minor
| (Seen just as many 10-9 games in NL as AL,too).  I just don't like to see
| pitchers hit when I could see Chili Davis, Hrbek, or Bushy.
 
I don't know it's just as much fun seeing pitchers get hit as Bushy!
 
| The Woodman
| [rest of .long.sig deleted]
 
Terry Stewart
stewart@healthy.uwaterloo.ca
From: clgs11@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: test
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:58:47 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

TEST
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From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Re: creative managing
Organization: American Software Development Corp., West Babylon, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:09:34 GMT

In article <BxtI46.9u5@deshaw.com> baseggio@deshaw.com (Franco Baseggio) writes:
>What about a lefty-righty reliever combo where they can both play
>left-field?  Has a pitcher ever been moved to a non-pitching position
>and then back again?  

I think Whitey Herzog did this once or twice voluntary.

Davey Johnson did this once, but he was forced to after a brawl in
Cincinatti (Ray Knight vs. Eric Davis) during the 1986 season.  Roger
McDowell pitched first and, at a point the Reds sent of a left hander,
Jesse Orosco was brought in from right field.  It was a truly bizzare
game!
-- 
scott barman			| <This space intentionally left blank>
scott@asd.com			|
 (I can barely speak for myself, you expect me to speak for my employer??)
From: frendli@cats.ucsc.edu (Arik Kissinger Florimonte)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Pirates Mailing list...
Keywords: Pirates
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:29:40 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


I am i Pirates fan lost in California, and I'm wondering if there is a pirates
mailing list out there. If so, would someone please mail me the info re: how to
join and whatnot (mail is better because i don't check the net often)..

thanks.

-arik
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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)
Subject: Re: Franklin baseball thingy....is it worth the $$$$?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:48:02 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Nov16.202424.18591@schbbs.mot.com> bernstei@next3.corp.mot.com(Andrew Bernstein) writes:
>
>My wife is trying to figure out what to get me for my birthday........should I suggest  the  
>Franklin?
>
>I looked at it at the store....was kind of unimpressed by the appearance of it, but who cares  
>what it looks like...it could keep me busy for years.....
>
>If you have one: where did you get it......so I can take my wife with me...and accidentally spot  
>it........manipulation can be such fun....I have seen it at Service Merchandise for $89.00....
>
My honest opinion is that if it doesn't have readily supported, inexpensive
year-to-year chip upgrades, it's going to be obsolete in two or three years.

At $14 to upgrade Neft and Cohen (The Sports Encyclopedia) every year or two,
it's cheap, and searching for stuff isn't *that* much more difficult.  If 
yearly upgrades aren't available now (I'm honestly not sure), it wouldn't 
seem to me to be a particularly great deal...


-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) * kbos@carina.unm.edu * Make outs, not walks!
TONIGHT-In "Ryecatcher", Holden Caulfield foils a plot to turn his old prep
school into a right-wing military acadamy run by Neo-Nazis. 8PM(7PM C/M) Ch. 7
                                                        -The Book of Sequels...
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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: creative managing
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:29:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g215a-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <Bxx7oI.841@deshaw.com> baseggio@deshaw.com (Franco Baseggio)  
writes:
> >In article <BxtI46.9u5@deshaw.com> baseggio@deshaw.com (Franco Baseggio)  
writes:
> >>What about a lefty-righty reliever combo where they can both play
> >>left-field?  Has a pitcher ever been moved to a non-pitching position
> >>and then back again?  
> Thank you to everyone who responded.  I don't think we need to see the
> same 2 or three games referred to more than 10 or 12 times, though, so
> I respectfully ask that no one cite Herzog or that crazy Mets game
> anymore.  

OK. How about the time Dave Bristol put Wayne Granger in the outfield?

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: ESPN TO TELEVISE EXP. DRAFT
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:49:31 GMT
Organization: Boo!

For those with an all-sports radio station nearby, you might want to try
and check if that station is broadcasting the draft if you don't have ESPN
access.  I know that WFAN in New York is broadcasting the draft.

Greg
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: ESPN TO TELEVISE EXP. DRAFT
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:44:18 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <kbanaian.8.0@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu> kbanaian@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (King Banaian) writes:
>In article <17110175@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM> oz@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM (Kent Ostby) writes:
>>For those of you who haven't heard, ESPN will be televising the expansion
>>draft on November 17th TUESDAY from 2 PM to 9 PM EASTERN TIME.
>>
>>Personally I'm takeing the day off to watch it with some other Rotiserre
>>Freaks.
>>
>Well, some of us have to work.  Would anyone be able to post draft results 
>here as it happens?  I can sneak a peek during the day.
>
>Sparky
>

There is one problem with this idea, laudable as it is...and it's one that 
comes up quite a bit on the football groups lately, where people post half-hour 
game score updates.

Propagation of articles through the net.

We have a fairly wide newsfeed here, and yet, articlescan take up to eight hours
to get to our site from other places.  The last article to be posted here on
this newsgroup as I'm reading now is three hours old, for example.  A similar
problem occurs with the NBA and NFL drafts as well.

My suggestion would be this (recognizing, of course, that several people will
see this message only on Tuesday evening... :) :

One person who has net.access and espn.access volunteers to put up three 
messages ASAP; one with each of the players taken in a certain round.  This
way, if we have a volunteer in place who has a plan, and who won't repeat all
the information each time, we can save bandwidth.  Or, if you can't watch and
post at the same time, and you can't wait for ESPN/USA Today to report the
results, find someone to E-mail you results ASAP.  It _might_ be faster. (Some
sites give me e-mail replies within a half hour; from WPAFB, it takes six hrs.)

There _will_ be a list posted at some point on Tuesday; rest assured about that.

However, hopefully we can cut out someone following up his own post with a 
ten minute ticker thirty times during the afternoon...

-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) * kbos@carina.unm.edu * Make outs, not walks!
TONIGHT-In "Ryecatcher", Holden Caulfield foils a plot to turn his old prep
school into a right-wing military acadamy run by Neo-Nazis. 8PM(7PM C/M) Ch. 7
                                                        -The Book of Sequels...
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From: graftaas@plains.NoDak.edu (Eric Graftaas)
Subject: Kirby Puckett
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:37:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Let me just say that the real MVP of the American League is Kirby Puckett
of the Minnesota  Twins. Nobody can outplay him. He's probably the best
player in baseball.  To all of you in Chicago-- Forget it Kirby is going
to stay here. 

I'm going out a limb and saying that Minnesota will be in the 1993 World
Series. Look at their probable line up.

1st Hrbek
2nd Knoblouck
ss  Leius
3rd Boggs
LF  Mack
CF  Puckett               Looks like the core of World Champs
RF  Munoz
C   Harper
SP  Smiley
    Tapeni
    Erickson
    Mahomes
    Banks
RP  Aguillari
From: RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Eck Wins MVP in Horrible Voting
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:21:27 GMT
 <GRABINER.92Nov23193452@birkhoff.harvard.edu>
 <23NOV199223030375@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>
Distribution: na

this joe gordon didn't know his batting average or homer total
because he was clearly ahead of his time.

had the manager said, "hey joe, what's your obp versus right handed
pitchers?" or "hey joe, what's that slugging average of yours?"
or "joe, how many runs did you create last year?" i'm sure that
gordon would have known.

bob vesterman.
From: steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: The first pick -- David Nied
Keywords: STUPID
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:31:04 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

In <w!lq6yj@lynx.unm.edu> kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose) writes:

>No, it means John Schuerholz is an astute gentleman who realizes that Ted 
>Turner would have had his ass if Deion Sanders had not been protected.  Now,
>you may redirect your diatribe at Turner, and I wouldn't mind a bit.  
>Schuerholz wanted to protect Nied.

I don't have a *big* problem with protecting Sanders.  In my protection list,
Sanders or Mercker was my #15 slot.  But was Ted Turner behind protecting
Brian Hunter and OTIS NIXON?  Does Otis really sell TBS commercials?  Wouldn't
Deion sell even more playing full time?  Did anyone in the brain trust
seriously think Nixon would be selected?  Given Gant, Justice, Sanders, Nieves,
Mitchell, and Kelly, why would they mind?

STUPID is the perfect word.  Other than Nied, the draft didn't go too badly.
Certainly Castilla was expendable.  I would be calling for Schuerholz's head
on a platter if Pete Smith had gone in the second round.

-- 
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic

  "It is considered good to look wise, especially when not 
   overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
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From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: Comments on NL protected lists
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:50:11 GMT

In <1992Nov16.233513.21819@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) says:
>In article <1992Nov16.212946.4250@wuecl.wustl.edu> jdd@wheezer.wustl.edu (John DeHart) writes:
>>They still have some hope that Canseco will develop.

>I suppose this shouldn't surprise me, given that this is the organization
>that gave up a top pitching prospect for Andres Galarraga, but having hope
>that a 28 year old never was will develop into anything more than a bench
>player is a pipe dream.

And *speaking* of Le Grande Chat, clari.sports.baseball reports that the
Colorado Rockies, firing their first shot in an attempt to beat the '62
Mets, have just signed him to a one-year contract.

There's joy in the streets of Miami tonight.

-- 
David M. Nieporent   | Mike Mussina 1993 AL Cy Young Winner
niepornt@phoenix.    |------------------------------------ 
   princeton.edu     | "I still believe in a place called Hope."
Clinton/Gore '92.  Don't stop thinking about tomorrow.
From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: My Hall of Fame votes
Date: 16 Nov 1992 20:08:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


Players:
James "Cool Papa" Bell

Johnny Bench

Bill Foster (Negro League's best lefty hurler, perhaps)

Rube Foster (The George Halas of the Negro Leagues & a great pitcher.  He
could be listed under either.  In fact, he was a great player-manager, too.)

Josh Gibson (With all the debate about which catcher was better, I had to
include both.)

Lefty Grove

John "Pop" Lloyd (Negro League shortstop - 1900s and 1910s)

Christy Mathewson

Satchel Paige

Cy Young
------------------------

Non-players
Red Barber

John McGraw (Very successful manager in both dead-ball and lively-ball
eras; more successful than Mack, whom I considered.)

San Diego Chicken (Now where do you put that alphabetically - under "San
Diego" or under "Chciken."?  Seriously, why not have a mascot?  He just
edged out Max Patkin, the "Clown Prince of Baseball.  I've seen both, and
wasn't sure which to choose.  Hey, baseball is entertainment, too.)

Bill Veeck  (See last of above comments.  Also a great owner.  Many don't
know this, but I read where he was going to buy the Phillies in 1943,
and sign all the Negro League players.  Someone got wind of it, and the
National League quickly bought them instead.  There's a "what if..." we
can discuss sometime.)
-- 
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu  : Me, age 4 & now: "Mommys and Daddys & other
   "Thou shalt love God with all: relatives have to give lots of hugs & love
thy heart...*and thy neighbor as: & support, 'cause Heaven is just a great
thyself*." Luke 10:27           : big hug that lasts forever and ever!!!"
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: The first pick -- David Nied
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:05:43 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com wrote:
}
}Also, as an aside, the criticism of John Scherholtz is totally unjustified.
}The list he created was superb. I'm talking about the list HE created. His
}list included David Nied. However, TED TURNER at the last minute demanded
}that Deion Sanders be protected so Nied was swapped for him.

This was reported on ESPN, but the local press has been saying that
it just isn't true.  It really doesn't make sense to me either, because 
Turner does not play an active role in the Braves and, more importantly,
the main thing Turner wants from the Braves is wins.  That's what he
enjoys watching and that's what has shot the TBS ratings through the
roof the past two seasons.  He hired Scherholtz to make the Braves
winners, and the man has delivered, and I find it hard to believe Turner
would interfere with that.  

On the other hand that weasel Stan Kasten could have easily told the 
GM he had to protect Sanders - that's just the kind of pinhead he is.

And if Scherholtz was told - by Kasten, Ted Turner, or even Ed Turner
(no relation, president of TBS) - that he had to protect Sanders, he
could have bumped Otis Nixon instead of Nied.  Scherholtz is for 
some reason absolutely bonkers over Nixon though.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

       "Death wears a big hat, 'cause he's a big bloke."    
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Comments on NL protected lists
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:35:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.212946.4250@wuecl.wustl.edu> jdd@wheezer.wustl.edu (John DeHart) writes:
>They still have some hope that Canseco will develop.

I suppose this shouldn't surprise me, given that this is the organization
that gave up a top pitching prospect for Andres Galarraga, but having hope
that a 28 year old never was will develop into anything more than a bench
player is a pipe dream.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: cclaydon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (C Robert Claydon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: draft commentary...
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:20:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: bottom.9211182120.AA00379
Organization: The Ohio State University
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

>Now with the trades being done (for now) let's look at the probable starting
>lineups.
>
>C       Steve Decker
>1b      Jeff Conine
>2b      Bret Barberie
>SS      Walt Weiss
>3b      Gary Scott
>LF      Monty Fariss
>CF      Chuck Carr
>RF      Junior Felix
>
>St.Pit  Pat Rapp, Dave Weathers, Jack Armstrong, Scott Chiamparino,
>        Jose Martinez, Ryan Bowen
>Md.Rel. Cris Carpenter, Jim Corsi, Trevor Hoffman
>Closer  Bryan Harvey
>
>I like what the Marlins have done in the middle relief and closer area.  
>These are established players, and when handed the ball should do a good job 
>in getting opposing players out.  It does good when a starting pitcher 
>pitches a good game, has the lead, but gets in a jam only to have the relief 
>come in and get him out of the jam and seal the win.  These are young 
>starters, they won't have to worry about the closers blowing their lead when 
>they leave the game, that will help their mental state of it.
>
>Rockies probable starting lineup?
>
>C       Joe Girardi
>1b      <None drafted, but that's why they got Andres Galarraga>
>2b      Eric Young
>SS      Freddie Benevides
>3b      Charlie Hayes
>LF      Jerald Clark
>CF      Alex Cole
>RF      Dante Bichette

I agree with the above, and would further add that one thing really stands out 
about the Rockies' lineup:  THEY ARE ALL OLDER THAN DIRT!  Well, OK, carr and 
Felix are pretty old, too; and some of these guys are like ml-ML yo-yo's 
(Decker, Scott, etc).

But really, the Rockies got a lot of over-thehill journeymen...  the Marlins 
got a lot better prospects in the draft (N Wilson, In general, have a little 
higher talent level, both in terms of the '93 lineup and overall.  I would say 
one or two of Farris, Decker, Scott, and Barbarie (or maybe even carr) have the
talent and youth to still be a front-line starter in '96-'97, when the rest of 
the team will probably develop.  The only guy you might be able to say that 
about in the Rockies lineup would be Young (and even that's pretty iffy).  I 
mean weren't Farris and Decker first round picks (in the amatuer draft)?

Overall, if the draft is any indication, I would say the Marlins are acting 
more like expansion teams that have met with success (the Royals, Blue Jays, 
etc) by going for good talent, at the cost of experience.  The Rockies seem 
hauntingly like the Mariners and Angels did their first 10 years or so--go for 
over-the-hill journeymen, just to get recognized names into the lineup.  Look 
for the Marlins to start contending by the end of the decade.  Look for the 
Rockies to sign Roger Clemens, Will Clark and Jose Canseco sometime near the 
end of the decade... :-)

Rob
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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)
Subject: Jose Lind Traded to KC Royals
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 11:40:42 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

The Pittsburgh Pirates sent Jose Lind to the Royals on Thursday for
Dennis Moeller and Joel Johnston.

1992 Stats for the players in the trade:

            G   AB  H   D T HR  R RBI  W  K  BA   OBP  SLG
Lind Pit   135 468 110 14 1  0 38  39 26 29 .235 .275 .269

              W L   ERA  G GS CG SV  IP    H  W  K
Johnston AAA  5 2  6.39 42  0  0  2  75   80 45 48
         KCR  0 0 13.50  5  0  0  0   2.2  3  2  0

Moeller  AAA  8 5  2.46 23 16  3  2 121  121 34 56
         KCR  0 3  7.00  5  4  0  0  18   24 11  6

Lind is 28, and the National League Gold Glove winner for 1992 at second base.
Johnston and Moeller are both 25 years old, and will make substantially less 
money than Lind next year.

(As an aside, we now know why Howard was to be protected.  He's the offensive
 half of the Royal's keystone combination...)

-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) * kbos@carina.unm.edu * Make outs, not walks!
TONIGHT-In "Ryecatcher", Holden Caulfield foils a plot to turn his old prep
school into a right-wing military acadamy run by Neo-Nazis. 8PM(7PM C/M) Ch. 7
                                                        -The Book of Sequels...
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