HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: fun with inhalants
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:05:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

treon@milton.u.washington.edu (Treon Verdery) writes:
:
: Don't kill your spark.
: 

Wonderful line.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: tpehrson@javelin.sim.es.com (tim clinkenpeel)
Subject: Re: 60 Minutes piece on the Forfeiture Law
Reply-To: tpehrson@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:50:44 GMT

the constitutionality of 'civil forfeiture' is comming up for review by the
supreme court in, i believe, june or july.  i might be off by a year.

unfortunately, i do not recall where i acquired this information.  may have
been time magazine.

-- 
warning: my messages are offensive to morons |R| a person is only equal to all 
disclaimer: i exclusively represent myself! ||F|| others when s/he treats them
__________ lick bush in '92! _____________ |||R||| as such; inferior otherwise
>>>==-----+ i am tpehrson@javelin.sim.es.com, tim clinkenpeel i am +-----==<<<
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: honig@siam.ICS.UCI.EDU (David A Honig)
Subject: analogies...
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:04:11 GMT


Reading the rec.cat faq, I was struck by a number of amusing parallels:

B.  Catnip.

Catnip is a plant that causes various reactions in cats.  Very young
cats and kittens will not be affected by catnip.  About 20% of cats
are never affected by catnip.  It is not known why or how catnip has
the effect it does on the rest of the cat population.  It is a
non-addictive "recreational drug" for cats with no known harm to the
cat.  Most cats "mellow out" and become sleepy and happy, others start
acting very kittenish.  A small percentage will become possessive of
their catnip and may snap or hiss at you.

Catnip is easy to grow.  You will need to keep the plant itself out of
the reach of the cats as catnip-lovers will quickly destroy it.  The
best strategy is to get some growing, and then pinch and prune it
regularly and give the harvested leaves to your cat.  Keep it in its
own pot, as it will spread rapidly.

Nepeta cataria is the common catnip; other Nepeta species have varying
amounts of "active ingredient".  A good one is Nepeta mussini, a
miniature-leaved catnip that makes a good rockgarden plant.  Nepeta is
a genus of the Lamiaceae (=Labiatae), the mint family.  There are
about 250 species of catnip, plus a bunch of hybrids between species.
Only about 10 are available in this country, though.

Valerian root is an herb that has a very simular effect as catnip and
generally makes cats a bit nuts.  It is however not as readily
available as catnip and perhaps a bit more potent than catnip.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Subject: Re: Hemp paper
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:20:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.022951.19632@ddsw1.MCS.COM> zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Sameer Parekh) writes:
>
>	I read in _The Emporer_ about hemp clothes for sale, and I was
>wondering about the legality of that...Or is that bogus?
>
>	I was wondering because I had an idea to pritn the Free Journal on
>hemp paper.  (Maybe it would be expensive because it isn't in wide use, so
>I'd only print a few of the issues on it...)  Then I could say, "Not printed
>from recycled paper, but from hemp paper-- 1 acre of hemp produces as much
>paper per year as 4.1 acres of trees"  (Is that the right number, BTW?)
>-- 
>Sameer Parekh zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM zane@infopls.chi.il.us| 
>ap.3684@layout.Berkeley.EDU ___________________________/
>___________________________/ STOP The War on Rights
>Restore liberty in the United States - Vote Libertarian 1992

In Colorado there is a store called "Hemp-Ware" that sells hemp clothing.  (and
it goes FAST! -- each time they get a shipment, it's all gone within a day or
two.)

I don't think they take mail-orders right now, but might very well do it if
there's a market.

-marc


Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Legal Cocaine? (WAS Re: Drug legalization)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:24:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Sorry dude, it "constricts" blood vessels and perforates septums.
Septums get deviated when they get punched.  Few male kids grow up without
one.  Makes a lot of money for some unethical surgeons.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: cs421coll@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (NEUMANN)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: fun with inhalants...NOT!
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:02:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Arizona State University - Computer Science Dept
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>From: fordam@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Andrew M Ford)
>Subject: fun with inhalants
>Date: 10 Apr 92 03:51:24 GMT



>At the beginning of this school year me and a friend were looking to get
>high real bad, so we decided to try modle glue. At first it was bad
>because the manufacturer put some mustard seed in the glue to discourage
>inhaling it, but we still managed to.  After inhaling about one tube a
>piece, we were pretty fucked up. No visuals or anything real intense, but
>just an extremely euphoric feeling.  Anybody out there ever try glue or
>any other type of inhalant, and were they any good? Also, any body heard
>of someone frying their brains from doing thisy type of shit.

I'm not a physician or any such thing, but I have read a few articles where
people have obliterated their minds with glue.  In one incidence, two kids
were able to replace large portions of their brain with the substance (they
were taken to a physician and X-rayed after they were found wandering
aimlessly around the dumpsters at the Motorola plant where my parents
worked) after using it a few times.  These kids could not remember anything
and were mentally incapacitated.  If you don't believe me, get a history of
your local police log.  These incidents seem to happen periodically, and
you can probably find someone in your area who has done the same thing to
themself.  Incidentally, the glue they were sniffing was essentially epoxy,
namely, it was probably not that different from model glue.

While I'm at it, I'd like to warn people against using freon.  My neighbor,
a moron at best, was inhaling it, and managed to spill the liquid on his
mouth.  I happened to run across him that night, and his lips had swelled
to three or four times thier normal size.  He went through quite a bit of
plastic surgery to scrape the scar tissue off his face and reconstruct his
mouth.

Ken Collins

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From: jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Joe T. Ucker       )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: San Pedro (Trichocereus pachonoi)
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:06:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.31623
Organization: University of California, San Diego

A few posters have mentioned the cactus Trichocereus pachonoi.
It's supposed to be as mescaline-filled as peyote, but be a 
bit milder (perhaps different other alkaloids.)  The cactus guides
I've read have said it's indigenous to South America but a 
poster I believe has written San Pedro is indigenous to San Diego.
I have not been able to find a picture of San Pedro and so I
don't know if any of the cacti arounf here are San Pedro.

Anyone with some info? (Sean Maschue?)

===============================================================================
=    jtucker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu			Joseph A. Tucker..............=
=    "I'd like to talk to you.  You're very special to me.". .................=
===============================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: Legality question concerning spores
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 23:34:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

It is starting it from the spores that is so hard to do without infection.
I know of what I speak.  Once you or anybody have a mycelium going,
tranplanting a hunk is pretty easy.  I'll bet that most shrooms in the US
have about 5 or 6 unique sets of genes.  The real secret if you are into
this is to find a source for some mycelium.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Why don't you get high the first time?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
    <1992Mar20.213132.3052@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
    <1992Apr01.050030.16835@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us> <901185g.702150231@aucs>
    <1992Apr1.235845.25629@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 16:43:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr1.235845.25629@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS) writes:
>   Scientific studies have actually been conducted which have been unable to
>find a differnce between the effects of holding the smoke for a long period
>of time vs. only keeping it in for 1 second.  It just occurred to me, though, 
>that since holding your breath makes you dizzy, if a 'virgin' who has been 

I have a different theory about breath holding.  Pot takes time to have an
effect.  If you hold a hit in for one second, you are not likely to be high
by the time you exhale, but if you hold it in for 30 seconds, you might be
-- just because of the delay time.  

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
Darryl Gates, George Bush's "ideal police officer", thinks Clarence Thomas, 
a former casual drug user, should have been shot long ago.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: day@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (dennis garland ii day)
Subject: A Delysym trip
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:09:17 GMT


A friend of mine asked me to share this with the group.  After hearing from 
me what I had read about Dextromoriphine (excuse my spelling, I'm sure thats
not right), which is the active ingredient in Robotusin DM and the said agent
of Robo'ing.  Delysym contains 30 (some measurement) / 5ml of Dext. compared
to 10 (some measurement) / 5ml of Robo.  Instructions on the net had said 
that 2oz of Delysym should be sufficient, so my friend drank his entire
3oz bottle.

Up to t = 45 min the friend felt no effects, though the cough he had had all
day from his cold had subsided somewhat.

At t = 45 min the friend lept to his feet and felt somewhat disoriented.  He
was happy about this.  After walking up a flight of stairs the friend felt
an air headed stoneyness that lasted about two seconds.  Then everything was
back to normal.

At t = 1 hour and 30 min the friend was very bored and got very stoned.  He
reported no LSD like effects, although one slight hallucination (seeing 
Christmas lights blink one time, although they were not on) did occur.

The friend would like to know if he did anything wrong.  He would appreciate
if you respond to me and I to him.  He's afraid mean people with guns will
come to his home and take him away if he posts himself.  As for me, I think
they're just waiting for the appropriate moment.

Thanks, D Day
From: NORML California <canorml@igc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:10 PDT
Subject: Re: H.R. 2597
Nf-ID: #R:gZRBJB1w165w@treehut.waffle.atl.:-465029586:cdp:1301300144:000:481
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!canorml    Apr 17 00:10:00 1992



 The threat is still real, but HR 2597 IS DEAD.   It has been replaced by
a couple of new, weasle-worded proposals, HR 3642 and S 1982, with much
the same intent.  This issue is currently under consideration by the
House Energy and Commerce Committee (Rep. John Dingell - Chairman;
Rep. Henry Waxman, Chairman of Subcommittee on Health and Environment).
  WRITE YOUR CONGRESSPERSONS NOW AND DEMAND LEGISLATION TO PROTECT
CONSUMER CHOICE IN HEALTH FOOD STORES!  NO TO FDA TYRANNY!
From: alexc@yang.earlham.edu (Sperminator)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: netaccess
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:50:52 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana


     I am a student this year and have been using my Vax access fairly 
regularly.  Next year I will be taking a leave of absence from school and 
I do not want to lose my net access.  Through what means can I get access 
if I am not with a school or a business offering net access.  I realize 
that whatever method I use will most likely cost some amount of money, 
what can I expect to pay for this service?  Any information would be 
useful. Post or e-mail alexc@yang.earlham.edu.

alex MADAMN chermside
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: Input sought on drug legalization: detection/
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:39:58 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Apr13.084047.25558@muddcs.claremont.edu> ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff) writes:
>
>Well, while I certainly would rather have someone commit a DUI on a car than
>on a bicycle....
>
>Have you ever been hit by a bicyclist? its not to much fun... although
>the tire print eventually does come off your forehead...

I've been in a head-on with another bicyclist... that hurt, but was
several orders of magnitude less destructive than a head-on between
cars...
-- 
Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
Some news readers expect "Disclaimer:" here.
Just say NO to police searches and seizures.  Make them use force.
(not responsible for bodily harm resulting from following above advice)
From: ugrimly@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (GrImlY FiENDisH)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Timothy Leary
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:57:18 GMT

Can anyone tell me if Timothy Leary has access to e-mail? I would like to
get in touch with him, and I know that he is a computer user these days.
If no one knows an e-mail address, I'd appreciate a US Mail address. (Like
paper, envelopes, and stamps... remember those?:) )

--G
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: kids and LSD
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 04:53:50 GMT

My own opinion in the matter is that unless they have particular
problems that endanger them, the immature tripper is just going to
be going along for the fireworks, joy riding as it were.  Nothing
wrong with that, they just miss the other possible benefits.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
                 Love is blind, Love can tell a million stories
                   Love's unkind, spiteful in a million ways
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: voss.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Subject: previous stuff
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:26:40 GMT

if you guys have any thoughts about this stuff email me
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: wdm32592@ih-nxt05.cso.uiuc.edu (William D. Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Jacob's Ladder drug
Reply-To: wdm32592@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:54:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.213128.18373@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us>  
jeffq@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us (Jeff Ishaq) writes:
> I was contemplating doing a report on the Jacob's Ladder drug, but I'd  
first
> like to know the approximate availability of information on this  
subject.  Un-
> fortunately, I have no idea what the drug is called.  From the movie, I  
got
> that it was named The Ladder, and a friend said the quip at the end of  
the
> movie deemed it "B-Z or something like that."  I'd appriciate the real  
name of
> this drug and maybe some suggested readings if anybody has them.   
Thanks!
> 
> -jq

The name of the drug was BZ, and I read about it in a book called "The  
Search for the Manchurian Cantidate", I forget the author's name.  It  
details a lot of the CIA's MK-ULTRA program during the 50's and 60's.   
Anyway, BZ was designed to be used against enemy troops.  I believe it is  
such a strong hallucinogen as to be debilitating for a day or more.  The  
idea being you get the VC so zonked they can't walk and simply go in and  
take them away.  If I remember correctly, we could/can deploy it in  
everything from mortar shells to 750lb cluster bombs.  Fun stuff.  The  
book claimed it was used at least once in Viet Nam.  I'll try and find the  
reference to the book if I have time.

David Mitchell
wdm32592@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
wdm32592@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu

"Democracy, when strained, grows weak and gives way to oligarchy"
  Aristotle (I think)
From: med011@muvms3.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: ******* A little of this and a little o'that :) *******
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:03:50 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

Excuse me but...I am wanting to try MJ Foodstuffs...Wondering about how
to extract the THC from MJ and Exactly how much to use.  Specifically,
I am traveling to Puerto Rico for some fun-in-the-sun and I thought I 
could take some with me in the form of harmless brownies or something.
Can anyone help? I would really appreciate some suggestions (or as far
as that goes...some recipies and extraction methods). Thanx very much
in advance!

Steven
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jeffc@microsoft.com (Jeff Carey)
Subject: Re: Mushrooms
Date: 07 Apr 92 10:29:01 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <ikqHiB1w164w@Bogus.COM> maddog@Bogus.COM (Matt Mcfarland) writes:
>Also.. How do shrunes compare to acid when it comes to tripping?

Far superior:
	1) peace of mind knowing *where they came from, and what they are*
	2) peace of mind knowing *the approximate doseage*
	3) natural sources are, for many, superior to synthetic
		sources simply *because*...more peace of mind, for me.
	4) IMHO, after 16 years of experimenting, I prefer p. cubensis
		to the synthetic alternative because:
		a) cleaner--no "ball of energy in the pit of the stomach"
		b) no over-tight jaw muscles
		c) few jitters, if any, afterward
		d) an experience more "spiritual" (for lack of better words)
			and high-tech (the "architectural" look in visions)
-- 
JeffCarey,jeffc@microsoft.com,{uunet,uw-beaver,sun,sco,decvax}!microsoft!jeffc
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 22:28:37 EDT
From: <SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: They Know! (Part II)

I saw someone mentioning something about the (somewhat paranoic) thought
that music/tv/radio knows about the altered states intimately, and is using
this to their advantage (and yours?).  I just want to state that this is not
such a paranoic state: I know for a fact that Pink Floyd knows (at least
knew).  Listen to any of their stuff (esp.  earlier works like UmmaGumma &
Meddle) and tell me that I lie.  Just try it.  Believe me, they *know*.  And
that's fitting, because they have the reputation to fit this knowledge.
Other groups that seem to know IMHO, are Chris & Cosey, Drop Acid, and other
alternative acts.  In fact, isn't alternative music a good word for it?
Just take 'alter', lift it out and add 'ed' & 'states'.  :-)


-A candy-coated clown they call the Sandman/creeps to my room every night...


Disclaimer: You just hallucinated all of the above.  Isn't it time you quit
that tripping thing?
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@milton.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: You All Suck
Keywords: Penis, phallus
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:50:14 GMT

v116hgth@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Julie A Darmody) writes:
>Drugs are killing are children!!!!! How can you possibly want them legal?????
>You must be truly sick.
>--jules
>e-mail replies will be answered

<snif> smells kinda like someone left themselves logged in again...

Anyway, since illegal drugs only kill 6,000 people total per year, I 
really think we have some more important priorities to consider...
 
-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu  (anon: ap.4497@layout.berkeley.edu)
University of Washington, Seattle.    Disc: if UW ever finds out what I post... 
alt.drugs FTP site: milton.u.washington.edu[128.95.136.1] dir:/public/alt.drugs
               For quotes and other useless info see my .plan
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,alt.society.civil-liberty,talk.politics.drugs
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: All Drugs WILL Be Legalized!!!
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 00:24:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
: 
: Considering that you have not gone out and done any kind of survey,
: this gross generalization is racist in and of itself.
: 
: Sorry, but the racists who will admit to being racists would rather
: put them in jail and get rid of them entirely.  Fascism would be a
: small price to pay, just look at Germany.
: 
: On the other hand, you would just relegate them to "the bottom rung
: of the ladder".
: 
: It's painfully obvious that you are from a small hick town in rural Missouri.
: 
: Think before you post.

Pete I think he ommited one implied word that changes the meaning considerably

: >                           Legalization would put blacks back on the bottom
                                                    ^
                                                  those
: >rung of the income ladder.

It may be a generalization but you don't have to be from Missouri to see
the miserable truth of it.  Try East Palo Alto, CA.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: "smart drug"/other drug interaction?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 03:02:41 GMT

Dean and Morgenthaler say (without references, natch), that
"Piracetam may increase the effects of certain drugs, such
as amphetamines, psychotropics, and Hydergine..." (p. 48)
I was planning to pick up some DMAE and pyroglutamate, and
wondered whether anybody had experienced such effects with the
latter.  Comments?

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: oseiler@isis.cs.du.edu (Oliver Seiler)
Subject: Some questions...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 06:13:43 GMT


ROkay, here are some questions...

1.  Has anybody had any experiences with Euphoria (U4EUh,Intellex)? What's
it
    like?

2.  What are the dosages for Ecstacy? Euphoria?

3.  What is PPA?

Just curious... ;^)

-Oliver.
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Robitussin question
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:43:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: linus.1992Apr13.194359.18777
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <c=wj-7l.rcain@netcom.com>, rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>Thanks, ROB.  I've heard two negative things about it. a) you get real
>sick and b) there is a two day hangover.  Can you address that?
>
>I've also been told that the sick is from Robitussen xx and if you use
>pure robo there is no problem.  Any comment?

A friend of mine who experimented with 4 oz. Robitussen Max Strength and got
very sick. 

He says "Acid sets a part of your mind free; Robo takes that same part and 
turns it off."

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
Darryl Gates, George Bush's "ideal police officer", thinks Clarence Thomas, 
a former casual drug user, should have been shot long ago.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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