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From: ddanders@ecn.purdue.edu
Subject: Re: Stanford 23, U$C 9 (includes marching band stuff)
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:03:45 GMT

>Oh well.  Fun was had by all, particularly with the announcements of
>the "USC Band Stats" during halftime.  I never saw a final tally, but
>at halftime they had done Conquest 25 times, Fight On 19 times, some
>other random song 6 times, and (the announcement that got our crowd cheering)
>had played immediately after a USC score 0 times. :-)

>Seriously -- why is it that the USC Band plays the same music over and
>over again?  It's not just Conquest and Fight On (although those are
>pretty bad) -- I heard them playing the same song they played for
>either pregame or halftime during the third or fourth quarter.  Most
>college bands I know of try to vary our song selection a bit, except
>for the fight song(s), which are generally only played in their
>entirety after scores.  You will rarely, for instance, hear the ...


|> In article <aelman.721269258@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
|> 
|> [...bulk deleted...]
|> 
|> >either pregame or halftime during the third or fourth quarter.  Most
|> >college bands I know of try to vary our song selection a bit, except
|> >for the fight song(s), which are generally only played in their
|> >entirety after scores.  You will rarely, for instance, hear the
|> 
|> Ever been to a Michigan game at Ann Arbor?  They play "Hail..." so many times
|> that it gets absolutely sickening.  And that's all they play.  Over and over
|> and over and over...it's visiting team-torture.  Not that they haven't been
|> able to back it up lately, but really.  Enough is enough.  Get some variety.
|> 
|> ===============================================================================
|> Jeffrey Imes                                            imes@cis.ohio-state.edu
|> CIS Undergraduate Student	                 "The brain doesn't need blood,
|> B.S.C.I.S. 3/94					  it just needs to be wet."
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------


Maybe the band, team and Athletic Dept. don't really care what everyone
thinks.  If a band can divert the attention of the opposing fans and band from
the game, maybe the opposing players and coaches are starting to get 
irritated as well.  That, I believe, is the real target of the annoyance.

Why don't we all watch the game and support our own team.

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From: dkm2@Ra.MsState.Edu (David K. Magee)
Subject: Re: MS State, Florida, Bama
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:47:06 GMT

mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>>couldn't score 20 points!".)

>    Let's see, that would be the same Jay Barker who ripped Ole Miss
>for almost 400 yards passing in route to a 31 - 10 victory when they
>decided not to worry about the passing game, wouldn't it?  I, along
>with Alabama's receiving corps I'm sure, sincerely hope that MSU
>leaves the passing game out of the equation.
> 

Hmmmm,  seems that another Air Matthews attitude is developing here.
Was that 5 times Ol' Shane was picked off in Starkville?  MSU is quite
capable of handling the passing game.  And as far as rushing defense,
we'll see.  (oops, Errict Rhett only had 40 yards all night).
   
>--
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>   ***  A hurricane is a seasonal thing.  The Tide is forever.  ***
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It seems that the real hurricane season is from August to New Years Day.
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From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Subject: Re: The mood in Columbus about Cooper
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:35:52 GMT

scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:

>> How is the mood in Columbus right now regarding Cooper?

>     Ugly. I wrote a post to osu.sports after the Illinois game saying that I 
>was disappointed that Cooper's lifeless body wasn't swinging from a lamppost in
>front of the Clintonville Big Bear. No one thought this was out of line.

>>I'd like to think that if the Buckeyes were able to go 9-3 that people would
>>lay off his case for awhile.

>     Ah, Mike, you've been away too long. :-) It's going to take a win over
>Michigan to save Cooper, and even then he might have to win the bowl game as
>well. And if Ohio State loses to Indiana, he's history.

A coach would have to be insane to want to work for Ohio State.  He'd have to
be so insane that he'd, um, take over a moribund program with a long losing
tradition and turn it respectable.  He'd have to be Glen Mason.  Uh oh.



						Al
						alan@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
From: mmarolda@NeoSoft.com (Mike Marolda)
Subject: Re: SWC Review for 11/7
Organization: Neosoft Communications
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:31:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.144524.7451@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
>John R. Boisseau (Jay) (boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu) wrote:
>: 
>: TEXAS at TCU
>: ------------
>: 
>: Final Score:         TCU 23, Texas 14
>: Predictions: Goober  Texas 38, TCU 17    <--------
>:              Jay     Texas 35, TCU 24
>
>See, Goober, *NEVER* pick the sips to win....
>
Maybe he should pick them more often!

Mike Marolda  mmarolda@neosoft.com
A&M Class of '82 (if my memory can be still be trusted)


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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Sad Anniversary this Saturday
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:48:13 GMT
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In <1992Nov13.041458.25828@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov writes:

> In article <1992Nov12.225152.28943@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
> pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:
> > 
> > This Saturday, November 14, marks the 22nd anniversary of the worst
> > sports-related disaster in American history.  On this date in 1970, a
>>
> > In the year prior to the crash, Marshall had been placed on probation for
> > recruiting violations and had been banished from the Mid-American conference.
>> 
> Not the way I'd choose to clean up a crooked program.  Though Debbie
> might have some suggestions for Auburn...

  I think this little joke is in pretty bad taste.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Verbal Bashing Of Miami
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:36:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.015141.19270@oz.plymouth.edu> j_hardin@oz.plymouth.edu (James J. Hardin) writes:

   The thing that bothers me is the slander directed at Miami pertaining
   to some off-field problems.  Some examples include:  calling Miami
   players convicts and uneducated.  Calling them classless, etc,etc.

Did you see the Texas (cotton bowl?) game a few years ago? Haven't you heard
about NFL stars calling up their Miami successors and demanding they
embarrass somebody and then swager on TV before a big game?  *Much* of
Miami's "classless" reputation is specifically from on field problems.  But
your right, in the past some of their players have acted like classless punks
off the field too.  

   emotional.  Sure the players have been out of control at times, but
   Dennis Erickson has done a good job channelling that emotion into
   something positive.  No other team plays harder than Miami.  They know

Right, its a good thing they brough Erickson in after that Texas debacle,
other wise we might all think the university condoned the bragging,
showboating, and taunting on the field.  (mind you, I *do* know the calendar
of events here).

   All you ignorant people can keep on saying what you want, it doesn't
   make a damn bit of difference, nobody is listening.  

Thats funny, it seems to be getting your nose out of joint.  And as you seem
to admit, most of the Miami bashers are *not* ignorant but rather informed on
the issues at hand.  

Look, Miami had the team of the 80's and is well on their way to being a, if
not the, team of the 90's.  And along with their success they've cultivated
an arrogant outlaw image, and relished it.  Live with it James.  The team
knows where they stand, why some people around the country are turned off,
and they don't give a damn.  Why do you let it bother you?

Miami comes in, wins consistently and often kicks the shit out of other
(often good) teams, and then insults them with showboating and taunts.  Then
you get upset that the loser, and their fans, wont kiss the 'Canes ass.  I
get the feeling your going to have to wait a long time.

Bill
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Subject: Re: WE WANT MIAMI!!
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:43:37 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Keywords: Nebraska best team in the nation again!
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <skipb.721356553@cwis>, skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell) writes:
>I may be a fool, but Miami's home field winning streak has to end sometime.
>This Husker team could be just the team to do it. That is, if the same team
>that whipped Colorado and Kansas shows up for the Orange Bowl. I'm toning down
>my enthusiam a bit until I see if NU can keep up the intensity of the last 2
>games against Iowa State, Oklahoma, and Kansas State.
>
I'm not saying it is possible.  I just think it give Miami an edge.
Both Colo and KU had trouble audiblizing in Lincoln because of the
crowd noise.  I see that type of problem in the Orange Bowl vs Miami.

>You think Miami would agree to play the Orange Bowl in Lincoln?? :-)
>
We could wish.
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From: johndoe@samadams.inmet (johndoe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: BUFF article
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:06:14 GMT
Reply-To: johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.

In article <1992Nov12.003537.19957@den.mmc.com> kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
>Well, I don't know how many scores came on possessions following CU
>turnovers in Colorado territory, but subtracting just the interceptions
>returned for TDs by Baylor, Oklahoma (2), and KSU and the blocked punt
>that was recovered for a TD by Minnesota still leaves 146 of the 170
>total points (a 16.2 average, over twice 'Bama's).

wait.  if you take away 5 tds from 170, that's 135, not 146.  (even if you
do not include pat's, its 140.)

still a 15.0 ppg average.

>-- 
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>116 Inverness Dr. East
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From: rszczerb@okeefe.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: Open Question to Miami fans
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:27:51 GMT


I'd like to hear some opinions from loyal Canes fans out there. 

If Alabama stumbles and the rest of the top ten remains the same, do
you think the Mighty Canes will play an undefeated Texas A&M team
in the Cotton Bowl or, "chicken out" and play a once beaten Cornhusker
team in their home stadium?

		- inquiring minds want to know

			rob



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From: pruett@b15.ingr.com (Debbie Pruett)
Subject: UA&AU
Summary: waiting for the AU & BAMA GAME
Keywords: ROLL TIDE
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:22:02 GMT

I am an eager Bama fan who is waiting on the
total destruction of Auburn !!
This is the year that Bama should run away with
it!!! I am looking for at least a 20 to 30 point
blowout!!!!

Roll Tide 
REVENGE ON THE HURRICANES ON NEW YEARS DAY
WE WILL NOT BE DENIED!!!!!!!!!
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From: atchison@shaggyman.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Bowl Game for Michigan State?
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:35:54 GMT

In article <1dritsINN7ot@agate.berkeley.edu> grantham@wish-bone.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham) writes:
>If they end up 6-2 in Big Ten play, they can probably expect the Buckeyes
>to finish at 5-3, since they have to play the Michigan juggernaut as season's
>end.  That'd put Moo U in sole possession of 2nd place & automatically get
>them into whatever bowl was suckered into taking the 2nd place team.  Then,
>OSU, probably at 8-3, would go to the 3rd place bowl, which only has an escape
>clause if the 3rd place team finishes with fewer than 8 wins. This seems to me
>to be the most likely scenario, but I always hear people talking about how OSU
>is going to end up in the 2nd place bowl & the 3d bowl will be able to opt out
>of the Big 10.  Maybe I'm missing something.

For whatever reasons (probably a much better overall record, a desire to set
the bowl schedules early, and a huge tOSU national alumni following), the
Citrus Bowl has already told Ohio State that a win against Indiana will put
them in Orlando on Jan. 1.  Even though they could still finish 3rd.

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: National Champs
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:27:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.162742.21745@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter  
Reiher) writes:

> It is interesting that, barring fairly big upsets, the much-reviled
> bowl alliance will probably achieve its goal in its first year, by 
> matching #1 Miami against #2 Alabama.  Of course, chances are that
> matchup would have occurred this year, anyway, even without the bowl
> alliance.

Not if the Big East Champion was locked into a bowl like SEC, SWC,
PAC-10, Big-10, etc!  The bowl alliance prevented this - and Miami
is no longer a GDI :), but a Big East member/champion.  If the Big
East had agreed to make the Fiesta Bowl "their" bowl, then the
controversy would have been even worse...and more impetus for a playoff!

Orin

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From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Virginia vs NCSU game (was My Top 25)
Date: 13 Nov 1992 16:38:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
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In article <1992Nov12.220731.13425@ncsu.edu> currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D CURRIN) writes:
>been frustrated before and just after Welsh arrived. Heck Of the the Pack's 3
>victories in 1985 one was against UVA at homecoming. People don't schedule
>UVA for homecoming too often now, UVA fans should take pride in that.
>

It seems the frustration is worse now because Virginia fans have experienced
sucess in the George Welsh years. Before that, people were simply used
to the fact that UVa was always going to lose and football games were just
big parties. Even during the 3-8 season of 1986 I can't ever remember the
team being booed. But, this is now the second year that UVa has fallen
from the Top 10 to being unranked and will probably not have a bowl to
redeem themselves. The players and coaches are clearly frustrated too with
players starting to point fingers at each other and the coaches. The coaches
don't seem to know what's going on and are making desparate moves - like
putting in a third-string quarterback. The whole thing is a mess and very
disappointing to see. 


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From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Hobert, UW on the ropes.
Originator: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 06:30:11 GMT


KSTW channel 11 (Tacoma, WA) just devoted the first
14 minutes of their newscast (*not* the sports segment
but the regular news portion) to the Hobert incident.
Include was a recap of the loan details ($50,000 from a 
golfing partner's father living in Post Falls, ID); interviews
with students on campus, middle-aged Husky fans in a local
sports bar; and even a 1-900 call-in poll with the question:
"Do you think it was wrong for Billy Joe Hobert to accept the
loan?" :-D    They also said that the NCAA has announced the
beginning of a full investigation of Hobert and the entire
UW football program.  If anything else is found, look for some
major-league sanctions.

Jim
Go Vikings, Northstars!

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From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: It just can't be....
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:23:47 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <6801@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc7.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:

| All of you out there posting that Arizona beat Washington, should stop lieing.
| The ALL-MIGHTY washington couldn't of lost to (as all washington fans put it
| after the Miami scare) the scrub of the Pac 10.  No way could a team as
| powerful and dominating as Washington (We all know that Washington is the 
| state of  football...they said so) could of lost to a nothing team,
| which 'they' so aptly  put it to discredit Miami.

That one point win by Miami over Arizona looks like a rout now. ;-)

BTW Huskies, the Arizona kicker is not as accurate at 51 yards. 
Almost two years of endless comparisons with Washington comes to a end.
Washington blinked. Arizona cast a decisive vote.   BTW, you Huskies guys 
were right all along, the Arizona game should be the benchmark to judge
Washington and Miami. ;->

BTW, Go Huskies Beat Michigan.  
Sugar Sugar, it's going to be a hot time in New Orleans as the tide rolls out.

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From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
Subject: Re: Alabama better than Michigan
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:31:30 GMT

murphy@rock.enet.dec.com () writes:


>In article <Bx92s8.7Ls@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>|> Path: ryn.mro4.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!nntpd2.cxo.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!spool.mu.edu!olivea!charnel!rat!usc!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!news.cso.uiuc.edu!uxh.cso.uiuc.edu!tamu
>|> From: tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson)
>|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
>|> Subject: Re: Alabama better than Michigan
>|> Message-ID: <Bx92s8.7Ls@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>|> Date: 5 Nov 92 15:52:55 GMT
>|> References: <wexjRmS00iUyE6AJJM@andrew.cmu.edu> 	<vanepps-041192042124@aha260.ccs.itd.umich.edu> 	<1992Nov04.145017.39699@uvmark.uucp> <ASH.92Nov5094318@ulysses.mr.ams.com>
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>|> 
>|> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:
>|> 
>|> >In article <1992Nov04.145017.39699@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>|> 
>|> >   >win them all, then we will talk...".   Michigan is the last team in the
>|> >   >nation to talk about "play somebody".  
>|> 
>|> >Isn't Texas A&M the last team to talk about "play somebody"?
>|> 
>|> I would say Michigan is in a pretty close race to see who should be the last
>|> team to talk about "play somebody"!
>|> 
>|> On the serious side, it will depend on how Stanford and ND do during the
>|> remaining season.  They are about the only ones that give either schedule
>|> any meat.

>It does seem to me that OSU is slowly coming around to reality.  They really

I think that tu may be the OSU of the SWC.  They are coming around, but then
again, I think it was Kansas that showed the world how good the tu win over
that powerhouse in OK. was this year, OU.  So maybe not??

I know maybe we should trade, let's trade Texas for Michigan.  We could have a

Michigan-A&M matchup
Ohio St.-Texas matchup

Oh yea, I forgot, we can't just trade can we.  Shoot, it would be fun.:):):)

{lots more :):) }

Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

>should not have lost the Illinois game(they completelt outplayed Illinois, who 
>got a few more than just one lucky break in that game), and at 6-2 have finally
>moved back in to the rankings.  I think it is most interesting how quiet the
>OSU people have been while we wait for the OSU-UM game.  But I think that OSU
>should be considered as at least a speed bump for Michigan, at least as much
>as Penn St. could be for Miami or Arizona for UW or Miami.  Time will tell...


>|> Todd
>|> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu
>|> 
>|> 
>|> >-Alan Harder
>|> > 
>|> >These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!
>|> 
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