From: garyng@gnct.com (Gary Ng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Gary Ng is JUST a friend of Gary Ng :)
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 00:50:08 HKT
Organization: Global Network Communication Technology Co.

gu_jc3@stu.ust.hk (GU) writes:

> garyng@gnct.com (Gary Ng) writes:
> 
>    Domain Name: GNCT.COM
> 
>    Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
>       Ng, Gary  (GN25)  garyng@NETCOM.COM
> 
>    Record last updated on 05-Aug-92.
> 
>    Domain servers in listed order:
> 
>    NETCOMSV.NETCOM.COM          192.100.81.101
>    NS.NETCOM.COM                192.100.81.105
> 

Very nice move :-). I have the technical background not necessary mean that
I run the business :-(, unfortunate for me. Paying for the bill will make
me bankcrupt. 

> 
> Oh, I am so sorry to hear that you want to close YOUR business so quick :)

Sigh! I said it is not mine but you would never believe me, would you ? And
the BBS I am using will not be closing that quick :-). Someone who is paying
the bill really can stay there for some time.

> 
> I DID... However, since the service that we provide are free for other
> BBS in FidoNet Asia and on a less than cost-recovery basis for users in
> HKPCUG BBS. Unless we can obtain a free local Internet feed to bypass

> the expensive IDD calls to the USA, we've no intention to 'advertising'

Oh come on. HK$ 2.5/message will pay for the IDD for sure. A email is 
usually 4-6k in size which can be transmitted within 3 seconds using today's
modem technology. Which based on the current rate is around HK$ 0.6. And if
you do it during mid-night it is even cheaper. Oh yes, using Citinet, it is
even cheaper.

BTW, I am just curious how many message HKPCUG send/receive per day ?
I believe if you let others know its burden, a lot of people will be 
willing to pay to share it with HKPCUG's management. 

It has a number of advantages :

1. When more are willing to pay, HKPCUG's fund will be larger
2. This would either relief the burden of those who is currently supporting
   the group financially

Or the fund can be used to improve the service like more newsgroup/echomail
etc.

Think about it :-).

> it as frequent as your's :)  BTW, it is understood all FidoNet SysOps in

2 things:

1. The BBS isn't mine.
2. How do you define the word 'frequent' and 'advertising' ?

> Asia can route inter-zone e- mails for free via the FidoNet ZoneGate in
> Asia which is funds by the HKPCUG. Of course, we will not be happy if we
> know SysOps charging their users money and routing those e-mails via the
> ZoneGate.  However, we will never know even if they want to do this...
> 
> Samson Luk

The discussion is getting personal. And the subject really surprise me.
I don't know what I have done wrong which cause you to react so vigorously.
If I said the BBS I am using is cheaper than HKPCUG, that is IMO and is
true in my case. You have the point that HKPCUG is currently subsidizing
a large number of local Fido BBS. But what I am responding to is just
to a request asking about internet mail capability in HK. 

So why don't you just post a summary on how to have internet mail capability
from HK rather than playing Holmes ? Or is it because the largest charity
organization in HK is not that busy in recent days ? Business should be as
usual by now :-). 'Six legs' are much more interesting than schk :-).

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

-gary

PS. I have logon to your system but can't find a way to send internet mail,
Do I have to be a HK$ 400/yr associated member before I can do that ?

garyng@gnct.com (Gary Ng)
Looking forward to 1997, That's less offending, isn't it Samson ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong