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From: chetans@agora.rain.com (Northwest Software Inc.)
Subject: Progress RDBMS S/W Engineer, Portland, OR *Short-Term Contract*
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Distribution: or
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:35:29 GMT


 PLEASE RESPOND DIRECTLY VIA U.S. MAIL, EMAIL,  OR FAX

	*********************************************
	*         PROGRESS RDBMS S/W ENGINEER       *
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DESCRIPTION:

 Portland, OR: This project is anticipated to begin immediately and
 last for one month, with possible extension. 

 Required: Minimum of 6 months PROGRESS programming experience.  Minimum of 1
 year database related experience.  Minimum of 2 years industry experience.
   
 Desired: BSCS or equivalent.

INTERESTED ?  RESPOND IN STRICT CONFIDENCE TO:

		Northwest Software, Inc.
		Attn: Job#: Progress Contract Job
		P.O. Box 91396
		Portland, OR 97291-0396

		FAX: 503-645-5892

		Email: chetans@agora.rain.com


		Note: It is our policy to talk to you first prior to 
		submitting you to our clients.  Unless we obtain your 
		permission, we will not submit your resume to anyone.
		    
		(If you are not a perfect match, we prefer that you 
		 mail us your resumes.  We will maintain it on our files
		 for future contract/employment jobs.  Thanks for your
		 understanding and cooperation)

MESSAGE TO NEW COLLEGE GRADUATES:

If you are a new college graduate, you should be aware that our clients
pay our fees and usually expect us to recruit experienced professionals
and/or consultants.  Therefore, we'd like to suggest that you either
contact your college placement center, or college recruiters at the
employers' directly.  Most large companies have a program to recruit new
college graduates like yourself.

ABOUT NORTHWEST SOFTWARE, INC.

Northwest Software, Inc. (NSI) provides Consulting Services 
to top-rated high technology companies across the United States.  
NSI has offices in Portland (Oregon), Los Angeles, and India.  NSI's
spectrum of services include: turn-key implementation of projects either
at our client's site or in India, and recruitment services.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jeffrey@algor2.algorists.com (Jeffrey Kegler)
Subject: Re: firm requests comments
Reply-To: jeffrey@algor2.algorists.com (Jeffrey Kegler)
Organization: Algorists, Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 22:14:58 GMT
Keywords: consulting,1099,401K,referral

In article <1992Jul29.174814.2930@eng.umd.edu> chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.232653.29281@algor2.algorists.com> jeffrey@algor2.algorists.com (Jeffrey Kegler) writes:
>>In article <2214@tivoli.UUCP> dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor) writes:
>>>------- consulting firm requests comments
>>>
>>>how important is 1099 income to consultants?
>>
>>To me, it's totally important.  I've been consulting independently
>>full-time since 1984 and have never accepted work on any other basis.
>>To get technical, I own a corporation and am employed by it on a W-2
>>basis.			   ^^^^^^^^^^^		
>
>Enquireing minds, of course, wonder why you are excepting 1099's if you are
>incorporated?  The 1099 exists solely for individuals, sole proprietors, and
>partnerships.  Corporations have no such requirement.

Basically income payments called 1099 or W-2 based on the form that
*would* be used to report the payment if it *were* reported.  All W2
payments must be reported, but only certain 1099 ones.  1099 payments
to corporations like mine need not necessarily be reported, though
they may be, and sometimes are.  They are still 1099 payments, whether
reported or not.

This is what I recall being told.  Next time I talk to my tax guys I
will ensure my use of the terminology is correct.  Enough people use
the phrase "1099 income" to mean "income for which reporting on a 1099
form is *required* by the IRS" that I may be forced to switch my
usage, anyway, to avoid being misunderstood.

For those in the mood to be picky, they could go on to note that
"Independent Consultant" and "Algorists, Inc." in my .signature are
mutually exclusive.  I tried using one or the other but the
implication of the former is that I am a sole proprietor, which is
false, and the implication of the latter is that I am President of a
vast enterprise, which is falser yet.  While the .signature as it
stands is an oxymoron, nobody ever misunderstands it!

Its seems a person must either say what he means, creating a false
impression, or say what will create the correct impression, but is not
what he meant.

Jeffrey Kegler, Independent UNIX Consultant, Algorists, Inc.
jeffrey@algor2.ALGORISTS.COM or uunet!algor2!jeffrey
137 E Fremont AVE #122, Sunnyvale CA 94087
"The problem with hi-tech is that the marketers who invented the
term think they know what it means."
-- 

Jeffrey Kegler, Independent UNIX Consultant, Algorists, Inc.
jeffrey@algor2.ALGORISTS.COM or uunet!algor2!jeffrey
137 E Fremont AVE #122, Sunnyvale CA 94087
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jmalis@world.std.com (Judee Malis)
Subject: SQLWindows/Power Builder, off-site, broker-1099
Summary: SQLWindows/Power Builder, off-site, broker-1099
Keywords: SQLWindows
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:42:04 GMT


Off-site contract work available for experienced SQLWindow or Power Builder
user.  Must be located in eastern Mass for occasional client visits.
Must also have project leadership experience and be proficient in dealing
with clients and defining project requirements.  For more info, please call
Judee Malis at Prosoft Consulting: 617-489-3055 from 9AM - 6PM.

Please call; do not leave mail.
From: evans@ZK3.DEC.COM (Marc Evans)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: firm requests comments
Keywords: consulting,1099,401K,referral
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:51:47 GMT
Reply-To: evans@zk3.DEC.COM
Organization: Synergytics

>From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
>
>What agencies would be willing to enter into either of these
>arrangements? From my experience, precious few. They all want control
>over their customer base which is entirely understandable and the
>major reason why I've dealt directly with clients for the past several
>years
>
>However, I've been away from dealing with agencies since 1989.
>Perhaps, things have become more "creative" in the job-shopping game...

You'll have to look far and wide to find these types of arrangements. I have
found that by working with an agent whom you have had previously delt with
and you have a mutual relationship helps. An agent that has never dealt with
you before probably won't go in this type of direction.

Remember, the agreement between you and the agency is something that you should
negotiate. Rarely have I ever let an agent dictate the arrangement, nor should
you. However, remember that this is an arrangement of mutual benefit (typically
involving 3 parties), and that all must enter into and complete the arrangement
feeling that this is the case.

An approach that may work well is to allow the agent to introduce you to a
client. Then after it is decided that you are the candidate that the client
wants to work with, you negotiate with the agent exactly how the arrangement
will work. The agent knows that if this process takes too long, they won't
get anything from it (nor would you for that matter), and the client will
likely decide eventually to ouse somebody else. If the client and you are
understanding eachother well enough about what you desire in the arrangement,
the agent will likely bow to preasure and settle on some compromise, which
will likely end up being simular to what I described in the previous post.

As you have pointed out though, making direct contacts is always going to be
your better approach, assuming that you have the time and network to do so.

- Marc
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: wengland@stephsf.com (Bill England)
Subject: Unix/Network System Admin (Memphis TN)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:05:06 GMT
Organization: Stephen Software Systems Inc., Tacoma/Seattle, +1 800 829 1684
X-Bytes: 1253

 Technetics Corporation of Little Rock AR is looking for 
 an individual who has system administration experience on 
 Unix/X11/Motif platforms.

 Minimum of 3 yrs general computer experience, strong technical 
 capabilities and excellent communication skills.

 Work will be performed in Memphis TN.

 Position start date is 1st of August.

 Please send your resume with detailed qualifications;
 (your hourly rates or salary requirements and your experience to):

  Technetics Corporation
  ATTN: David Dye
  3637 Park Ave., Suite 201
  Memphis, TN 38111

  Fax:   901 452-8900
  Phone: 901 452-7523

 (Please do not E-mail Postscript or nroff formatted Resumes, Thanks. 
  Ascii Resumes are Ok to E-mail however.   ALL E-mail resumes should
  be sent to  resumes@stephsf.com  )

 NO PHONE CALLS PLEASE
 PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND AFTER AUG 01, 1992
----
 I will forward all e-mail to David as he does not have an
 active e-mail address.

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 +-  Bill England,  wengland@stephsf.COM -----------------------------------+
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From: kevin@aisg.uucp (Kevin Levi Jackson)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered
Subject: Recruiter: CMS-2 programmers in Central Florida (Contractor)
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:20:43 GMT
Reply-To: aisg!kevin@ge-dab.ge.com
Organization: Advanced Information Systems Group, Inc.

We are currently looking for contractors with proven experience with the
CMS-2 system development. The successful candidate will possess skills to
design, code, test and integrate applications in CMS-2 and MTASS and 
familiar with MIL-STD 1679A and/or 2167A. Knowledge of PDL is also
essential.

The assignment is expected to start within 6 weeks and last 4-6 months with 
a possible extension. All work will be performed in the central Florida area.  

Please send all resumes via email or Fax, the 
need is immediate.

Resumes may be sent via e-mail to:

               aisg!kevin@ge-dab.ge.com

or fax resumes to 904-255-0187
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton)
Subject: Re: firm requests comments
Keywords: consulting,1099,401K,referral
Organization: Kenton Systems Corporation, Weston MA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:07:47 GMT

In article <2214@tivoli.UUCP> dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor) writes:
>------- consulting firm requests comments
>
>------- some persisting problems
>
>how important is 1099 income to consultants?

As opposed to what? Income is always important.

>
>has there ever been a referral compensation program that works? that is, a
>program that benefits consultants, the consulting firm and the consulting
>firm's sales force.
>

The only thing I've seen work has been low-key, occasional referrals
for a 10% referral fee.  This doesn't leave much for the sales force,
but most consultants get unhappy if the fee gets higher.  Not the
thing to build a business around, but a good thing to do in a situation
where you have a client you can't help otherwise.


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From: kris@tsg.UUCP (Kris Scarangello)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Sun Systems Admin (agency)
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:32:35 GMT
Organization: The Systems Group (Agency)

The Systems Group Inc., one of New Englands leading 
contract consulting agency has a client in Mass.
with a 4-6mo contract for the following skills;
Looking for someone with strong Sun Systems Admin
experience(5-11years)Would like strong Unix,Shell 
and NFS experience. If interested please contact;
Sharon Enright 
The Systems Group 
669 Main Street 
Wakefield,MA 01880
PH 617 246-4110
FX 617 246-2623
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: victor@mephisto.tcs.com (Victor Elkind)
Subject: skills worksheet
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:36:47 GMT

I am curious if anyone out there who contracts through a jobshop
ever got work through an agency that asked you to fill out a skills
worksheet?
I feel that a resume should be sufficient for an agent worth his pay
to match a prospective job with an applicant.

Any comments?
-- 
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Victor Elkind, Software Engineer      | victor@tcs.com or uunet!tcs!victor

"Forget for a moment that you're an American, and exercise your brain"
	from _Immortality_ by Milan Kundera.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: alfa@b23a.b23a.ingr.com (Laura Pina)
Subject: Freelance Publishing Professional
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: misc
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:36:01 GMT


------------------------------------------------------------------------
Experienced publishing professional is available for freelance 
graphic design, document design, editing and production assistance.

Experience with the following:
- Technical writing/editing (software and hardware)
- Typography
- Pre-press technologies (digital color and pagination)
- Document and advertising design (technical and marketing)
- Small and large offset press technology; small web
- Small and large platen and cylinder presses (letterpress; includes
  foil stamping, embossing, die cutting, auto-numbering, etc.)
- Screen printing
- Digital pagination and pre-press system specification, implementation and
  management.

Specialty:
Presentation kits (pocket folders, etc.) for technical marketing projects.

Credentials:
Worked with or for:  GTE, American Management Association, Honeywell,
and Intergraph; a variety of pre-press and letterpress tradeshops.

References, resume and personal information provided upon serious inquiry.

Note:
Since this is freelance, I am most interested in small-scale document
design and editing, or presentation kits.  


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Laura Pina - laura@alfa.b23a.ingr.com  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
                         (soon to be Laura Walker)


Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton)
Subject: Re: Warranty for consulting jobs
Organization: Kenton Systems Corporation, Weston MA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:37:42 GMT

In article <2A6F7892.27598@noiro.acs.uci.edu> jtien@venice.eng.uci.edu (Joe Tien) writes:
>
>I'm a grad student and was referred by my professor to design and build a little
>digital hardware gadget for this company. This thing will not be used in any place
>as to possibly endanger anyone's life or anything close to it. The clients wants
>three of them built.
>
>My question is: Should I offer some type of warranty (like a 90 day repair or
>replace at my discretion type) for this thing I'm building. Either way, am I in
>any kind of legal responsibility for what I've built. If so, should I (or we) sign
>some type of written agreement specifying the conditions and such.
>
>In general, what should I do to protect myself from any legal problems.

Since they apparently didn't request a warranty you could ignore the problem
if you want to.  But, you're always responsible for something you've done.  It
would probably be better, as you suggested, to include in the agreement with
the customer (you were planning to put something in writing, of course!) some
sort of warranty.  It makes them happier to deal with you, and can also define
the types of remedies you have to provide if something breaks.


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From: wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Salary ranges wanted
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:40:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

A friend of mine is getting into the contracting business for the first
time and has found a contract position in LA that is a good fit.  After
presenting his salary requirements, my friend was asked to justify the 
rate.  Is this common practice?  The firm apparently wants some kind of
list of people that charge comparable rates.

Anyway, is there some sort of database or other source available that
lists prevailing rates in different areas of contracting?

My friend has ~25 years experience as an electronics designer and
human factors engineer.  He has PhDs in EE and Psych.  Is there anyone
else out there consulting in this area that are willing to share their
rates with me?  My friend needs some leads soon, so email responses are
preferable.  Thanks in advance.

Rick
From: dfavor@logan.tivoli.com (David Favor)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: Salary ranges wanted
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:11:06 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <153pp1INNj9k@cs.utexas.edu>, wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes:
|> A friend of mine is getting into the contracting business for the first
|> time and has found a contract position in LA that is a good fit.  After
|> presenting his salary requirements, my friend was asked to justify the 
|> rate.  Is this common practice?  The firm apparently wants some kind of
|> list of people that charge comparable rates.
|> 
|> Anyway, is there some sort of database or other source available that
|> lists prevailing rates in different areas of contracting?
|> 
|> My friend has ~25 years experience as an electronics designer and
|> human factors engineer.  He has PhDs in EE and Psych.  Is there anyone
|> else out there consulting in this area that are willing to share their
|> rates with me?  My friend needs some leads soon, so email responses are
|> preferable.  Thanks in advance.
|> 
|> Rick

maybe the contract firm is just testing your friend to see if they can pay
a low rate. if a contract firm asked me this question I would laugh and hang
up. it may be common practice... but it's never happened to me. many times
I'll get a response like... "that's higher than we can go", but never have I
been asked to justify my rate.

your friend has several options. he can send resumes to other contract firms
in the area, he can point out to the contract firm that they make money when
he makes money, or he could just blow them off and treat the whole situation
as a learning experience.

since your friend has 25+ years experience and he has to ask whether or not
this is common practice (I'm assuming you are asking for him) then he is
lacking in experience where the contract market is concerned. unfortunately
some contract firms will realize he is a 'mark' and can be 'had'. if it was
a friend of mine starting their first contract I would suggest they find a
different firm to work through. it's awful for the first contract to go sour.

on the other hand if your friend is good at... switching reality tunnels he
might choose to up his rate by 10% telling the contract firm that researching
his industry worth he found he had underquoted. then suggest he stick to his
price. this will certainly confuse the sales weenie and could provide loads
of entertainment value!
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From: seek@world.std.com (David A Reilly)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered,ne.jobs
Subject: C++ developers for route 128 area (recruiter)
Summary: Long term contract
Keywords: C++/OS2/Commonview/Glockenspiel/Class Libraries
 
 
              **************************************
                    OS2 C++ Class Libraries
              **************************************
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:52:45 GMT
Expires: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 04:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: Kevin McLaughlin
Distribution: ne
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

A major development effort is under way in one of our primary clients.
If you would like to be part of a team developing advanced applications
in OS2 using Object Oriented design and C++ then please contact me as soon
as possible. ***** This is not an entry level role****  The role is open
immediately and the following skill set is necessary in order for you to
be considered an asset.
 
                  1)  OS2
                  2)  Class Libraries
                  3)  C++
                  4)  Commonview
                  5)  Glockenspiel C++
 
                                             
                                                  Sincerely
                                                  Kevin McLaughlin
                                                  seek@world.std.com
                                                  1-617-246-8246 (fax)
From: gartrell@girtab.usc.edu (Fred Gartrell)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: YOU DO HAVE A KEOGH DON'T YOU !!!
Date: 30 Jul 1992 21:10:37 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul30.155016.19520@eng.umd.edu> chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV) writes:

Bunches if info deleted

>YOU DO HAVE A KEOUGH, DON'T YOU?
>
>If you aren't planning for your retirement, you had better quit playing at
>being an independent, and get a mushroom job!


Say Chuck,  You do know how to spell Keogh don't you.

Not everybody believes in that method of retirement planning.  Let's
play devils advocate.  What if tax rates are at 70% when you retire,
you going to have to pay alot of tax on that retirement money you saved.
If you paid tax at the current rate you'd save around 40% of your money.
Not to say tax rates will be that high then, even though they were
pretty close to that years ago.

I'm not mocking the advantages of retirement plans, but your remark implying
that those without a keogh are losers and will amount to nothing and only
play at independent contracting, is bulls*it.

I'm all for reducing the amount of tax I owe Uncle Sam, but I personally
store my after-tax money for those fruitful periods of retirement.

No Flame Intended, just don't imply that were stupid if we don't conform
to the way you save for retirement.