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From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Towers outside of Sacramento
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:29:09 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA


In article <57317@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> jfs@oas.olivetti.com (Fred Stone) writes:
>
>Does anybody know what the four towers west of I5 between Stockton and
>Sacramento are for?  They are the ones with the xenon strobes on them,
>about 20 miles or so south of Sacramento.  Two of the towers are
>symmetrical in position which could be some AM station, and two are not.
>One of the towers which is off by itself has a triangular top with other
>antennas on it.  I would guess that these towers are about 200 feet tall,

Those towers are the TV/Radio towers at Walnut Grove.  They're about 1500
feet high and have lots of TV and FM antennas on them.

Drive down South River Rd. sometime and check 'em out.
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
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From: weaver@kuttner.sfc.sony.com (Eric Weaver)
Subject: Re: Towers outside of Sacramento
Organization: SONY Advanced Video Technology Center San Jose, CA USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:11:58 GMT



Trivial nit:  KBHK is NOT the callsign of the Sacramento channel 13.  It's
KOVR.   KBHK is 44 in SF.

Sorry, couldn't help m'seff...
-- 
Eric Weaver  Sony AVTC  677 River Oaks Pkwy, MS 35  SJ CA 95134  408 944-4904
& Chief Engineer, KFJC 89.7 Foothill College, Los Altos Hills CA 94022
From: mam@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Mark A. Matthews)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Towers outside of Sacramento
Date: 15 Dec 92 02:37:34 GMT
Followup-To: ba.broadcast
Distribution: ba
Organization: Grass Valley Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: blottobox.gvg.tek.com

In article <57317@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> jfs@oas.olivetti.com (Fred
Stone) writes:
>
>Does anybody know what the four towers west of I5 between Stockton and
>Sacramento are for?

The town is Walnut Grove - The towers are for a number of
Sacramento/Stockton television and radio broadcasters.  The tallest towers
are 2000 feet tall; the "smaller" tall towers are 1500 feet tall.

KCRA-TV (3) is on the north 2K tower, KXTL-TV (10), KBHK-TV(13), KSCH-TV
(58) are on the southern 2K tower.  Numerous other area broadcasters have
also attached themselves to the towers.

Being on a delta island below sea level, the transmitter buildings are
raised off the ground in case the island floods.  KCRA went to the trouble
of ensuring that both the transmitter and the standby generator are two
feet above the top of the island's levee.

Its amazing what some people will do when they have a decent hill where
they want one.
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From: edg@netcom.com (Ed Greenberg)
Subject: Repairing Teac Real to Real
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:02:49 GMT

I'm looking for places in the South Bay that can fix a Teac A-4010S
Real to Real tape deck (with recording amp.)  Any recommendations by email
appreciated.  If there's interest I'll post.
-- 
Edward W. Greenberg  | Home: +1 408 283 0511 | edg@netcom.com
1600 Stokes St. #24  | Work: +1 408 764 5305 | DoD#: 0357
San Jose, CA  95126  | Fax:  +1 408 764 5003 | KM6CG (ex WB2GOH) 
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From: figmo@netcom.com (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Re: Towers outside of Sacramento
Organization: The Burn the Candle at Both Ends Club
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:15:18 GMT

In article <57317@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> jfs@oas.olivetti.com (Fred Stone) writes:
>
>Does anybody know what the four towers west of I5 between Stockton and
>Sacramento are for?  They are the ones with the xenon strobes on them,
>about 20 miles or so south of Sacramento.  Two of the towers are
>symmetrical in position which could be some AM station, and two are not.
>One of the towers which is off by itself has a triangular top with other
>antennas on it.  I would guess that these towers are about 200 feet tall,

I don't have immediate access to a map with the answers, but it could
be KTRB/KCML.  The former's a very powerful clear-channel station in
Modesto; the latter is its recently-added simulcast FM.

--Lynn
From: jfs@oas.olivetti.com (Fred Stone)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Towers outside of Sacramento
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:21:02 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA


Does anybody know what the four towers west of I5 between Stockton and
Sacramento are for?  They are the ones with the xenon strobes on them,
about 20 miles or so south of Sacramento.  Two of the towers are
symmetrical in position which could be some AM station, and two are not.
One of the towers which is off by itself has a triangular top with other
antennas on it.  I would guess that these towers are about 200 feet tall,
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin)
Subject: Re: KLIV signal interference in South SJ
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:47:09 GMT

In article <clark.724110890@angelo> clark@angelo.amd.com (Brad D. Clark) writes:
>daj20@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (dan a. jatnieks) writes:
>
>What it could be (enlighten me, Steve :->) is that when KLIV goes to direc-
>tional pattern, there's a null in the signal pattern there, due to terrain,
>radiation pattern, whatever.
>
Yeah, its a directional patern (what direction?  I have no idea.. )...

>Now, you ask, whatthehell is a "null"? (All you broadcast engineers go have
>an Adult Bevvie whilst I make a fool out of myself) OK..... antenna theory
>101:
>
>An antenna radiates in a pattern. If the pattern is omnidirectional, the
>radiation pattern is kind of like a circle, with the tower as the centre-
>point. When regulations mandate that a station go "directional", due to
>either the need to protect another station (at night this is common), or
>to enhance the signal strength towards a particular area, the pattern
>changes. The power is directed into one or more "lobes". And, since the
>Laws of Physics must eb adhered to (no matter WHAT the F.C.C. sez :->),
>when you enhance signal in a certain direction, the added radiated power
>has to come from SOMEwhere...., hence areas of weaker signal. Sometimes,
>these nulls are VERY sharp, like the space between petals on a flower.
>
>I suspect, then, that this is a VERY narrow, but DEEP null in the pattern.
>
>Then again, your antenna co-ax could be waterlogged and I'm talking out
>of my hat.........

I will look at the license to see what the acual patern's are next time
I am at work.
>
>Brad
>
>"I know the destiny of all mankind"
>"Gee, I didn't know he was a Calvinist..." - Dan on MST3K


-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
Steve Rubin			    ser@netcom.com
KARA/KLIV, KJCC		            In search of a job.....
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From: athos@apple.com (Rick Eames)
Subject: KGO && Krasney?
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 08:17:41 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: ba.broadcast

Why was Michael fired from KGO?  That came as a shock.

******************************************************************************
Rick Eames                               My Opinions Are My Own (not
Apple's)
athos@apple.com
Don't blame me, I didn't vote for Boxer.
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From: jon@netcom.com (John L Davis)
Subject: Re: Towers outside of Sacramento
Summary: Mystery towers.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:18:55 GMT

In article <57317@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>, jfs@oas.olivetti.com (Fred Stone) writes:
> 
> Does anybody know what the four towers west of I5 between Stockton and
> Sacramento are for?  They are the ones with the xenon strobes on them,
> about 20 miles or so south of Sacramento.  Two of the towers are
> symmetrical in position which could be some AM station, and two are not.
> One of the towers which is off by itself has a triangular top with other
> antennas on it.  I would guess that these towers are about 200 feet tall,

Tyhose are television transmitter towers, primarily, for the Sacramento area. UHF. The strobe lights are for airplanes to see and miss. They are about 400 feet high. The one tower has what is called a candlelabra (remember Liberace) so that mulipule active radiators (antennas) can be mounted on the same stick. If you look closely you can see smaller antennas mounted on the side of the towers; these are for FM stations, other agencies who want to get maximum coverage.
From: ergo@netcom.com (Isaac Rabinovitch)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: KLIV signal interference in South SJ
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:55:10 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: UESPA

In <80sV02cL2eeC01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> daj20@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (dan a. jatnieks) writes:



>   When I'm listening to KLIV (1590 AM) in my car and drive into south
>   San Jose I experience a sudden (relatively) jump in interference with
>   the station.  This is a SJ station, so what's the deal? 

The "location" of a station has more to do with licensing and marketing
than anything.  The transmitter could be anywhere.  Which is all beside
the point, because AM radio is *not* line-of-sight.  Unlike FM and TV,
AM signals bounce off things, so you have to be completely surrounded
(like in a tunnel) or very far away for location to make any
difference.  And that would give you silence, not interference.

>   An example of this is easily reproduced every day as I drive south
>   on 101 and near the Blossom Hill off ramp - the interference is
>   sometimes so bad as to make the station unhearable.  Anyone else
>   notice this?

Sounds like something is just leaking random radio noise.  (Is this
called RFI?  Not my field, yuck yuck.)  Could be anything from an
aging transformer to an oversized microwave oven.  (Wonder what's
cooking?)  If you really want to do something, you could drive around
the area, looking for the place the interference is worst.  If you
see some machine that turns on and off when the interference comes and
goes, you've found your problem.  Then if the owner won't fix it,
write to the FCC.  The law's on your side, but all this might be more
trouble than it's worth.

>   Maybe it's another radio signal interfering?  It seems that the
>   interference is another signal of some sort.

Again, you're thinking of FM.  AM transmitters don't "bleed" into
adjacent frequencies as badly as FM transmitters.  The only time I've
seen this problem on AM is while driving past the KGO transmitter on
the Dumbarton Bridge -- and then only within about 100 feet.



-- 

	ergo@netcom.com 			Isaac Rabinovitch
        {apple,amdahl,claris}!netcom!ergo	Santa Cruz, CA
	
	You will be assimilated.  Resistance is futile.
		
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From: jon@netcom.com (John L Davis)
Subject: Re: KLIV signal interference in South SJ
Summary: Interference
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:09:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.051823.15313@netcom.com>, ser@netcom.com (Steve Rubin) writes:
> In article <80sV02cL2eeC01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> daj20@RUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (dan a. jatnieks) writes:
> >
> >
> >   When I'm listening to KLIV (1590 AM) in my car and drive into south
> >   San Jose I experience a sudden (relatively) jump in interference with
> >   the station.  This is a SJ station, so what's the deal? 
> >
> >   An example of this is easily reproduced every day as I drive south
> >   on 101 and near the Blossom Hill off ramp - the interference is
> >   sometimes so bad as to make the station unhearable.  Anyone else
> >   notice this?
> >
> About what time do you get this interference?  Daytime/Mornings?  Or late
> afternoon and evenings? Both?  The reason being, is because at i believe
> 5:15pm we switch to a directional signal "night patern".  I suggest calling
> 408-293-8030 and tell them the story.  I have noticed that KLIV's signal does
> loose some strength in parts of San Jose, but im tempted to thing its crap
> in my engine in my car.
> 
> >   Maybe it's another radio signal interfering?  It seems that the
> >   interference is another signal of some sort.
> Nahh.. The closest thing to KLIV that has enoiugh power to do any
> damage is KSJX 1500AM (50,000 watts.. KLIV is 5000 watts).  I live roughly
> inbetween the to stations (they are about 1/2 mile east and west of my respectivly).  
> 
> And I get both of the stations just fine...
> 
> 
> Steve Rubin
> 105.7 KARA/1590 KLIV
> -- 
> ___________________________________________________________________________
> Steve Rubin			    ser@netcom.com
> KARA/KLIV, KJCC		            In search of a job.....

What you are experiencing is the "beat frequency" btween the two stations in south San Jose  The signal form each station is very strong at the input to your radio essentially bypassing the tuner so that both signals get to the intermidiate amplifier, hence the "interference. This explanation is necessaryily (sp) crude but gives you the idea, I hope.
From: ergo@netcom.com (Isaac Rabinovitch)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Where is John Hockenberry?
Keywords: npr, talk, radio
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:28:27 GMT
Organization: UESPA

In <Bz694y.KJ6@queernet.org> rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes:


>I don't know if ABC is uptight about the chair; as someone pointed out to
>me before, John himself doesn't like to dwell on it much, as he'd rather
>be seen as a good reporter than a dancing bear.

True enough.  For my part, I've often thought that, with his gift for
patter, Hockenberry should have been a stand-up comic.  But that would
be in poor taste.
-- 

	ergo@netcom.com 			Isaac Rabinovitch
        {apple,amdahl,claris}!netcom!ergo	Santa Cruz, CA
	
	Abstinence makes the heart grow rounder.
		-- Prescot Gooberstein
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: New Station (650 KHz) ?
Date: 20 Dec 92 08:23:25 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Off Beat

I just started picking up a new "newstalk" station out of Sacramento on
650 KHz.  KST or KSTE or something like that.  Anyone know if this is a
new station, or did they just up their power or something?

-dx
-- 
"You're a total sociopath in your own right!"  --David Baggett
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Whither KGO's Michael Krasney
Date: 20 Dec 92 08:24:21 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Off Beat

I heard a bit of my favorite KGO talkshow host's last broadcast on
Friday night.  Does have any info on why he's leaving (or being asked
to leave) KGO?

-dx
-- 
"You're a total sociopath in your own right!"  --David Baggett
From: path@pase70.Convergent.Com (Pat Herd)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: re:chinese restaurant in Mountain View
Keywords: ba
Date: 19 Dec 92 01:37:47 GMT
Distribution: ba

There is a new Noodle Restaurant in Moutain View at Moffett blvd.
between Central exwp. and Freeway 101.
 The noodles are excellent here and the soups are wonderful.
              Check it out.

The address is: 311 Moffett blvd. Moutain View.
From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:13:34 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom

doctor@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Terry Fong) writes:
>
>There is a fairly new noodles & soup restaurant on El
>Camino near Castro (where the Mt. View "Jing Jing" used to be) that
>has some fairly good dishes. The "Singapore Noodles" is pretty good
>and I've been told that other noodle dishes are better than average...


Gee.. Tell us about a new noodle shop and then give us such
fantastic directions ...  Where Jing Jing used to be???




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan
From: chew@macross.csd.sgi.com (Stephen Chew)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Chines on Castro
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:01:58 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

The general description about chinese on castro was meicore.
I have to agree.  Some have asked for a view on the different 
places.  Well, here is a chinese view on castro chinese restaurants.

1) There aren't enough :-)  (why are there so many on castro?)
2) Dynasty - that should read Die Nasty.  It is greasy, oily and not 
	very good.  Well, at least it's open late.
3) Food Street - very Hong Kong.  It's good for what it does (short order)
	but not much variety.  It's a deli with seats more than a restaurant.
	Good roast duck and decent wonton mein.
4) Queen House - This is very authentic Taiwanese cuisine. (that from a
	non-taiwanese)  You have to know what to order.  Try the pork chop
	rice or pork chop noodle soup.  Don't get the "westernized" food and
	you'll enjoy.
5) Fu Lam Mum (?)- I like this place but can't say why.  They have a great 
	winter melon soup (my favorite) so it biases my opinion.  This is
	a Cantonese style seafood restaurant.  I haven't had their seafood
	so can't comment.  Not a bad place.

6) Chef Wang - Only order their hand pulled noodle dishes.  All else are 
	average.  Queen House however has comparable hand pulled dishes 
	so I go there now.

7) Schezwan Gardern - Good H/S soup, chinese chicken salad and pot stickers.
	Anything else is average or below.  Maybe they have a target market?

8) Fat Wok III - I've been there only once and have one thing to say GROSS!
	This is the first time I just couldn't eat the meal.  Anyone who knows
	me will say that's impossible cuz I'll eat anything.

9) Lucky House - never been there.  Looks nice though.  I'll try it some day.

There may be more, but why?
happy eating during the holidays.

--
Stephen Chew (chew@csd.sgi.com) "From one engineer to another,
SGI Product Support             trust me laddie, I kin do it!" - Scottie (TNG)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: cook@bebop.esd.sgi.com (Doug Cook)
Subject: Re: which Campbell soups are recalled?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 02:17:30 GMT


In article <620008@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM>, ted@hpkslx.mayfield.HP.COM writes:
> Does anyone know *which* Campbell soup flavors are being recalled (due to
> possible glass fragments)?  Were any of the Chunky seris affected?
> Unfortunately the soup cans don't have an 800 #, so I can't call to find out.

Call information for the 800 area code; 1-800-555-1212.

	-Doug
From: schof@robocop.uucp (Steven Schofield)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Shadowbrook in Capitola...Yuuucccckkk!!!
Keywords: need opinions...
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:32:45 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California at Berkeley

In article <39763@hoptoad.uucp> chroma@hoptoad.UUCP (Steve in the Secret Labs) writes:
>
>I don't reccomend the place unless you are interested in atmosphere
>and drinks only. The food is awful and it's horribly expensive.
>
>			Be Seeing You,
>			   Steve
>

Yes, but the orange muffins that they serve for sunday brunch are
awesome.

Steve
From: avolio@TIS.COM (Frederick M Avolio)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: New Chinese in Mountain View
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:54:40 GMT
Reply-To: avolio@TIS.COM
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.


I'd be interested in a review of the Hot and Sour Soup at this place.
I mean, if I am going to travel from the east coast for it, I need
this benchmarked (and, the pot stickers, of course).

(Not that I'd travel 3000 miles for food, but Motomachi, in Mtn View,
figured prominently in a recent west coast visit... :-) )


Thanks!

Fred
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Looking for lucn places inch places in Milbrae/So. SF
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:27:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.174246.10858@igor.tamri.com> viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge) writes:
>
>Hi,
>I am looking for places to eat at in South San
>Francisco or Milbrae. I'm particulary interested
>in lunch time fare. Price range, not more than
>$6.00 per person.
>
>Recently I tried Ristorante Buon Gusto In South
>San Francisco, but didn't like it much.
>See my review below.
>
>Please let me know of your favorites. I'm interested
>in any kind of food. Restaurants can be take out,
>sit down, or hole in the walls. As long as the
>food is good, I'll be happy!
>
>I will post a summary.
>
>Thanks,
>Vivian
>
>viviana@tamri.com
>
>
>************************************************
>I went to the Buon Gusto restaurant for lunch with my Mom.
>The alfredo pasta was delicious, the soup (minestrone)
>was so-so. The salad dressing tasted like water. My
>mother's chicken caccitore (sp?) was quite tasty.
>However, the service we received was quite rushed. We felt
>like they wanted us to eat and leave.
>
>Prices at lunch time ranged from $8.25 (pasta) to $13.00 (steak).
>Hours:11:30-3:00 for lunch.
>
>224 Grand Ave
>So. SF
>742-9777

if Darby Dan's is still there - it's good - togo-like sandwiches
up front (but far better - at least used to be) and great hamburgers
in the back room)

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From: jlecount@slipknot.eng.pyramid.com (Jason LeCount)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Chines on Castro
Date: 18 Dec 1992 23:30:12 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology
Distribution: ba
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In article <1992Dec18.220158.365@news.csd.sgi.com> chew@macross.csd.sgi.com (Stephen Chew) writes:
>
>8) Fat Wok III - I've been there only once and have one thing to say GROSS!
>	This is the first time I just couldn't eat the meal.  Anyone who knows
>	me will say that's impossible cuz I'll eat anything.
>

God is THAT the truth!  I ate their once, and it was perhaps the nastiest food
I have ever eaten of ANY type!  Ick!  Don't even CONSIDER it!

Jas.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: Ravioli
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:14:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.065646.1898@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>}>
>}>Ok, I'm a man with a mission. Where can I get OUTSTANDING cheese
>}>ravioli in the Palo Alto area? As a reference standard, I want to use
>}>ravioli from the Pastosa Ravioli Store in Brooklyn. Come on, there must
>}
>}Richard, it'll never happen.  What you want is the cheese ravioli
>}you got at Pastosa's Ravioli Store.  It ain't here.  This is 
>}Californai.  That was New York.  Go back to New York.  Visit Pastosa's
>
>Hold on. As one who has in the past violently chastised people for
>whining about not being able to find food exactly like somewhere else,
>I married a non-whiny one), I beg to differ here. The guy is just asking
>if there are any other displaced New Yorkers who know exactly the kind
>of food he is looking for and can recommend something damned close.
>That's why he specified the New York particular as a "reference standard."

OK  I was having a bad day.  I will apologise if I over-reacted.
I just think that the percentage of ba.food readers who have been
to that particular restaurant and eaten the cheese ravioli is
extremely small.  I think a better question might be....

I really like cheese ravioli.  Can anyone recommend a really great
cheese ravioli in the Bay Area?