From: Thomas R. Blake <tblake@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu>
Subject: rec.music.christian.tangents (I like it!)
Organization: Binghamton University
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In article <1992Aug13.144317.22359@meaddata.com> Mary Ries,
mcr@meaddata.com writes:
>I do like the fact that we almost always work out disagreements here
>in a loving way (eventually ;), and I think we're getting better and
>better at it! What does everyone else think?  Why don't we take
>tangent discussions to soc.religion.christian? Do we need a new
>newsgroup?  Where would it belong? What should it be called,
>rec.music.christian.tangent?  ;)

Actually, I have often been tempted to say.  "Hey folks, this doesn't fit
the charter of this newsgroup!"  (Does anybody have that old document
around?)  But I, like others have been really glad to see a newsgroup
where a little less "Christian Flaming" goes on.

I used to read s.r.c regularly, but found that it only got me upset about
the state the church was in.  It didn't seem to help me in my journey at
all.  Sometimes my blood would boil, and finally I realized, "Hey!  This
certainly isn't a Christian way for me to behave."

Starting a new newsgroup is an attractive idea, except I remember the
mighty battles that were waged to get this one into existance.  (It was
*ugly* friends!)  I also remember the battles that fought over the
proposed creation of s.r.c.catholic.  (Oy Vey!)

It may be that rec.music.christian.tangent is not so far fetched as it
sounds Mary.  Practially speaking, I think it might be the easiest to get
through.  A simple explanation for it's existance:

While discussing christian music in rec.music.christian (r.m.c), side
issues not strictly regarding music are sometimes raised.  While the
discussion of these matters might be better suited to
soc.religion.christian (s.r.c), the participants may prefer not to move
the discussion to s.r.c. since s.r.c is moderated and as such cannot
allow the immediacy and/or freedom of discussion they enjoy on r.m.c.

However, since the primary purpose of r.m.c is the discussion of
Christian Music;  It is proposed therefore that a new (unmoderated)
newsgroup, rec.music.christian.tangents be created for the discussion of
such non-musical discussions as grow out of topical discussions in r.m.c.

In the article, "How to Create a New Newsgroup" I find this:

>3) Group advocates seeking help in choosing a name to suit the proposed
>   charter, or looking for any other guidance in the creation procedure,
can
>   send a message to group-advice@rpi.edu; a few seasoned news
administrators
>   are available through this address.

Perhaps if we do so, the entire process could be made a little less
painful.  (IE first we speak to the friendlier "net-gods", and *then* we
look into an RFD, [or whatever the letters are.])

Tom Blake
Binghamton University
Binghamton, NY  (USA)

P.S.  In article <1992Aug14.133557.3152@cs.rose-hulman.edu> Claude W.
Anderson, anderson@cs.rose-hulman.edu. writes:
>So, if you are a person who would read r.m.c but not the new group, let
us  
>all know.  If such people don't exist, let's just keep it all here.
>(I remember several months in a row in the Winter and Spring with hardly
any  
>Amy threads.  Maybe they'll die down again soon).

Well Claude, while the discussions are interesting, I only have so much
time.  (I read news at work after work hours, when I should really be
going home.)  The creation of a new newsgroup is attractive to me.  As it
is, I go weeding through the subject lines saying, "hmmm... do you
suppose *this one* is about music?".

One day, I might want to read just r.m.c.t (or whatever it might be
called), the next just r.m.c (most often r.m.c I think) still other days,
I might read both.