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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Re: STEELERS (and other starting QBs)
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:43:31 GMT

In article 4995@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com, stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb) writes:
>In article gedVQwi00WDKI8Endz@andrew.cmu.edu, Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> () writes:
>>Since we've recently had an influx of returning students who haven't yet
>>paid enough attention to find these things out, here's as complete a
>>list of starters as I can come up with.
>>

Sorry, I goofed!

>>Buf:	Kelly
>>NYJ:	O'Brien

	Replaced by Browning Nagle

>>NE:	McMillan (is this right?)

	That's Hugh Millen

>>Mia:	Marino
>>Indy:	George (I seem to recall hearing he was hurt.....?!)
>	replaced by Mark Herrmann
>>Pit:	O'Donnell (yes, it's official)
>>Cle:	Bernie
>>Cin:	Boomer
>>Hou:	Moon (yes, he signed)
>>Den:	Elway
>>KC:	Kreig
>>SD:	Gagliano (yes, it's official)
>>Sea:	Stouffer (is it official, yet?)
>>Raid:	Schroeder
>>Skins:	Rypien
>>NYG:	(can't remember his name---not Simms)
>	Jeff Hostetler

	But, with Hostetler's nagging injury, Phil Simms may be in this week.

>>Phoe:	(can't remember his name)
>	Timm Rosenbach
>>Dal:	Aikman
>>Phil:	Cunningham
>>Det:	Peete
>>GB:	Majkowski
>>Chi:	(can't think of his name)
>	Jim Harbaugh
>>TB:	Testaverde
>>Min:	Gannon
>>SF:	Young
>>NO:	Hebert
>>Atl:	Miller (I think)
>>Rams:	(can't remember his name either, but you know who he is)
>	Yeah, Jim Everett



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From: harper@pembvax1.pembroke.edu
Subject: Jet Question.
Organization: Pembroke State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:16:44 GMT

Hi Jet fans,

Could someone please tell me if Jeff Blake made the Jet's team? (He is a QB).
Thanks.
 
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From: blokhead@leland.Stanford.EDU (Darren Pakying Lum)
Subject: Re: signings, holdouts
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:15:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.1541.15152@execnet> "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com> writes:
>The following unsigned players or holdouts came to term with their
>teams in the last couple of days:
>
>Jerry Rice       49ers
>Carl Banks       Giants
>Andre Rison      Falcons
>Jim Lachey       Redskins
>Darrell Green    Redskins
>Desmond Howard   Redskins
>Toi Cook         Saints
>

When did Andre Rison sign and how much did he sign for?

Go Cowboys!!
Darren


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From: Adriene@YaleADS (Adriene Nazaretian)
Subject: Re: Giants update
Organization: Distributed Computing Services
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:02:20 GMT

Any idea how much he signed for?
what about any signing bonus?
-ALN

In article <1060@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu>, larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons) writes:
> 
> In article <1055@alsys1.aecom.yu.edu> (Larry Simmons) writes:
> >
> >Holdouts:
> >            Howard is getting close to terms with the Giants and is expected
> >            to be signed this week.
> 
> Erik Howard just signed a 3 year deal (8/26/92). Moore is the last holdout.
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From: mreese@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Reese)
Subject: Re: Redskins Suck!
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Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 05:05:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.025952.14048@wam.umd.edu> huesmann@wam.umd.edu (Joseph Edward Huesmann) writes:
>
>Alas, 'nuff said... :(
>
>Joe
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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
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Subject: Butch Rolle
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:46:14 GMT

I don't remember which Cards fan it was(there are so many of us (-:)
who said that the Cards need a great blocking fullback since the OL
is so poor at runblocking. Well in today's roster 260 lb. Plan B
signee Butch Rolle is listed at RB instead of TE so it looks like
he may actually be the fullback this year(Johnson, Brown, Thompson,
Centers and Bailey were the others listed as I recall). It seems to
me that he's only there to block but it might be awfully interesting
if he and Brown(230+) lineup in the same backfield.




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From: tsv@dbrus.Unify.Com (Tim Vannaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: This season surprises.
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:24:47 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <Derek_Juntunen.07id@abcd.Houghton.MI.US> Derek_Juntunen@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Derek Juntunen) writes:
>Who does everyone think this seasons big surprise will be?
>Here are my picks:
>
>1.  Minnesota
 I'm not so sure, remember how Dallas set the Preseason on fire when JJ
 was in his first year?  They will go no better than 7-9.

>2.  Tampa Bay
   WHo knows

>3.  NY Jets       
   Good Pick
>
>Any thought?
>
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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Best RB
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:57:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: devnull.2322
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <Derek_Juntunen.07f9@abcd.Houghton.MI.US> Derek_Juntunen@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Derek Juntunen) writes:
>
>Some people would say Emmit Smith because...well, I have
>no idea.  Maybe because he won the rushing title by few
>yards?  True, but Thomas played one less game than him.
>And Sanders had ALOT fewer rushes.
>
Of course, Emmitt played against better defenses.  Blab blah blah blah.
Why even try?  No one is going to budge on this.  The only one who really
cares is probably Bill M-S, with his seemingly endless tirade against
anyone supporting the Cowboys.

Daniel Welch
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From: ae935@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jon Waler)
Subject: Need A Complete Holdout List
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:56:51 GMT


Does anyone have one or know where one is posted (like the 
USA Today for instance)??


Jw
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From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: NFL Realignment
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:49:48 GMT

drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann) writes:
> Southwest Division: Dallas, Denver, Houston, Kansas City, Phoenix

     Pardon my French, but screw you.  You talk
about regional rivalries?  Phoenix has nothing to
do with Missouri and Texas, and has no desire to.

     Get a clue.  We're a suburb of Los Angeles.
Our universities are in the Pac-10 (note, *not*
the Big-8 or Southwest Conf.), and the Phoenix
Suns are in the NBA Pacific division.

     We'll either stay where we are or join the
NFC West, thank you very much.  No offense, but
you can keep Missouri and Texas for yourself.

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From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster)
Subject: Re: Broncos roster moves
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:41:49 GMT

Another Broncos move:
 
Placed DB Frank Robinson on waivers and signed WR Ricky Nattiel.
 
Jim McMaster
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Re: Broncos/Cowboys stats
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:05:20 GMT

In article <BtJuCw.BwF@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> imprint@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper) writes:
>Can anyone who saw the Denver/Dallas game give me an idea of how 
>the game went beyond the score? How did Shawn Moore look for Denver?
>Or the entire Bronco offense, since they only scored three points.
>
>Peter Brown
>
>-- 
>

A few thoughts...

Moore did not play.  He has a sore shoulder from the Miami game.  He should
be okay for Phoenix.

Elway had an off-day.  Two interceptions, one deep in Dallas territory, one
deep in Denver territory.

Maddox looked a lot like he did in the first game -- like a rookie.

Rookie free agent Arthur Marshall had 6 (I think) catches and looked very good.
I think he will definitely make the team.  Right now, he looks like the #3
guy behind Jackson and Russell (who had 7 catches).

The running game pretty much stunk.  Green had -2 yards on 5 tries.

Defense looked good again, although they missed several potential interceptions.

A special note for Dolphin fans: Sammie Smith had 27 yards rushing, but
fumbled on at the end of his longest carry.  Ick.

CUTS
----
The Broncos made some cuts yesterday.  Those receiving the axe were:
PK Bennett, WR Bostick, DB Colar, WR Henley, TE Jones, OT McCullough,
P Parker, OT Salem, RB Wright.

All were free agent rookies except Bostick (7th round draft pick from
Nebraska) and Salem, a 10 year vet who was never very comfortable at
left tackle.


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From: "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: jack trudeau signs
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:20:33 EST
Reply-To: "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com>
Distribution: rec
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Jack Trudeau signs for 1.2 million per???

Leigh Steinberg, his agent must be a genius, and the Colts must be
idiots. Why pay an ordinary backup 1.2 million? Sure, George is likely
to miss a few games, but Indianapolis is not going to win a championship
anyway, so they should not have given in to Trudeau's demands. Remember,
this is the same organization that wouldn't pay Cornelius Bennett 
1.0 million a year.

Carl Banks signed with the Giants for 1.2 million per year, the difference
is that he has two rings, and would be coveted by any team. Trudeau
would be third string on most NFL squads.
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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: NFC EAST- GET OFF IT!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:30:13 GMT
Keywords: Satellite

In article <1992Aug25.225540.18383@usho93.hou281.chevron.com>, jjdti@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.D.Tilander) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.195523.27264@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
> >thing in the division.  The NFC East features some of the best defenses
> >in the NFL led by the always entertaining Eagles' Gang Green.  And you
> >call the 'Posse boring?  Emmitt Smith?  Michael Irvin?  The NFL One-man
> >Highlight film, Randall Cunningham boring?  Go back to lurking if you're
> >going to post such nonsense!
> >
> I have every bit as much right to post as you.  I don't think what I said
> is nonsense...you take everything so literally.  What I mean is that
> boring is in the eye of the beholder, so to speak.  The Giants that won the
> most recent super bowl( 2 years ago) were boring...still are.

Yes, you do have as much right to post as I do.  So do all the NFC East
fans that you are trying to quiet.  And how can you not take a sentence
like, "the NFC East teams are boring" literally.  What other way is there
to take it?  If you meant the Giants are boring, you should have said that
instead of lumping the Eagles, Cowboys, and Redskins with them.  Because
if you think those three teams are boring you don't understand football.

> Maybe I will go back to lurking...you people can't accept a point of view that'sdifferent from your own, I guess.  Don't be so damn mean.

Sure we can, but we play point-counterpoint in this newsgroup.  Just
don't take everything so personal.  It's all in good fun.


Joe Dakes
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From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Subject: Re: Where are they now?
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:20:51 GMT

In article <78476@ut-emx.uucp> drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.140657.58311@cc.usu.edu> slskq@cc.usu.edu writes:
>
>>> For example, what happened to Joe Theismann? (sp?)
>Analyst for ESPN's NFL broadcasts.
>>> 			      Steve Bartkowski?
>Beats me.
>>> 			      Ed "Too Tall" Jones?
>Ditto.
>>> 			      Randy White?
>Ditto.
>>> 			      John Riggins?
>Was inducted to the Hall of Fame a few weeks ago.

Also, does the color commentary for the local Fox affiliate for
Redskins pre-season games.

schalene
From: drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Houston Defense
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:42:04 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <BtEtBx.KCy@acsu.buffalo.edu> v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY) writes:
>
>Is it my imagination or does the Oiler Defense look like it's in for
>a big year.

It is in for a VERY big year.  Last year, the Oiler D was one of the best in
the league despite being relatively young.

With the added experience, they'll kick some serious butt, especially against
Pittsburgh and Cleveland, whose offenses can't get themselves out of a wet pa-
per sack.

>	I'm thinking about picking them in my FF League.

Go for it.  You really could do worse.

>Hgow are their recievers going to shake out?

Pretty well.  Jeffires and Givens will have stellar years, as usual, and Leo-
nard Harris will adjust to starting very well.

GO OILERS! (5-6-7-8! We're the best in the Lone Star State!)

As an aside, have any other Oiler fans been as impressed with Bucky Richardson
and Cody Carlson as I've been?  It looks as if not holding out has done well
for Carlson and that the Oilers might want to keep Richardson at QB, instead
of switching him to another position, as has been talked about.  Things sure
are getting interest behind Warren Moon.
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Re: Mark Jackson playing?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:15:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.171708.26358@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> etryon@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Earl Tryon ) writes:
>Is Mark Jackson, the wide receiver, going to start this week?  Is her
>on IR?
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Jackson is fine (unless he was injured in the last few days and I dind't hear
about it).  He is one of the few healthy receivers we have!

-dave
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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Re: Michael Irvin signs...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:00:36 GMT

In article <92245.38100.6669030@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM> 6669030@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
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>From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
>Subject: Michael Irvin signs...
>Message-ID: <1992Sep1.000738.16582@ntmtv>
>Originator: bradletm@rastaban
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>
>his name with his right hand...
>
>
>	I wonder how many FFL owners are pissed off at me right now?
>I know of one......

I know of another.  :-(
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From: lokey@wam.umd.edu (Low Key)
Subject: cowboys mailing list?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:40:38 GMT

	Is there a mailing list for cowboys info?
	Anything new on Irvin or Stepnoski?

				thanks
				Low Key
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From: rjmathia@la.sjf.novell.com (Robert Mathias)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL Realignment
Date: 28 Aug 92 03:20:12 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia

From my view point the solution to NFL realignment is not to move teams
from division to division but the names of the divisions need to be changed.
East, Central, and West were poor names for the divisions.

What makes great rivalery is not the location of the teams but having two
good teams battling each year for their division championship.  Washington
and Dallas is good example of this.


Bob Mathias
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: NFC Central Prediction
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:40:13 GMT

In article <calliesl.33.0@columbia.dsu.edu> calliesl@columbia.dsu.edu (Lonnie Callies) writes:
>How 'bout this prediction?
>
>              1.  Vikings (of course)...great offense,great defense
>              2.  Lions...Peete isn't a divison champ quarterback
>              3.  Bears...not the same ol' Bears
>              4.  Packers...blew alot of leads last year(vikings,falcons)
>              5.  Buccaneers...they suck
>  

I don't believe in gambling or putting my money to usury,  but I
suspect that one thing won't happen this season  in the NFC Cen-
tral division:  the Buccaneers are not going to suck .  How much
we will improve in the standings (if at all) I don't know. There
is always going to be stuff like  other teams getting better and
injuries on the team that can't be controlled, but Sam and Floyd
have,  so far,  worked together really well to improve this team
both offensively and defensively.   I think we are going to play
better and I feel that this is the year when the NFC Central is,
overall, going to make a move toward once again being one of the
NFL's better divisions.
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