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From: sumonbha@almaak.usc.edu (Sumon Bhaumik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Presidency College's (Calcutta) 175th Year Celebrations
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:04:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: almaak.1aa9b4INN2nb
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Southern California
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu

Hello Presidencians,

Presi Alumni Association in Calcutta is organizing something special to
celebrate the college's 175th year in existence. They are offering life
memberships to the Alumni Association for Rs 250. If anyone is interested 
in becoming a life member write to

		Alumni Associatio
		Presidency College
		86/1 College Street
		Calcutta  

I have a prototype of the application form so if you send me email I can 
mail it to you.

By the way, if you know about an Alumni Association for Presi in the US,
please, mail me its address, phone no. etc..

Thanks


			Sumon Bhaumik
			Presi (1985 - 88)
			Economics hons.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran)
Subject: Re: More about India
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:49:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.150358.28380@coe.montana.edu> prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar) writes:

>Maybe eave teasing happens in Madras, Bangalore and Calcutta too. Anybody
>heard of any eave teasing in towns and villages ? 


Actualy in Trichy, I have seen groups of men with long poles standing
around houses with eaves, and poking and poking at the eaves.  Maybe
you want to whitewash such incidents, but in my book that is
eave-teasing. :-)

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32601 soc.culture.pakistan:15344
From: ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Islam and Science
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:20:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucunix.BvEG1v.KqA
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <1992Sep30.045627.9543@cs.yale.edu> ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep30.020201.7851@cs.yale.edu>, A. Satish Pai
><Pai-Satish@CS.Yale.Edu>  writes:
>
>
>Good thing you put that there...  The stuff I quoted came from a
>well-respected nuclear physicist.  Let's take a look at how your
>"arguments" stand against his:
>
>> >>> "SA" == ahmed-shakil@CS.YALE.EDU (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
>> 
>> SA> From Sura Al Anbiya, 21:
>> 
>> SA>    30.  Do no the Unbelievers see 	
>> 
>> No, I don't think this one does. :-) 
>
>Clearly not.
>
>> SA>         That the heavens and the earth 	
>> SA>         Were joined together (as one 	
>> 
>> What are the "heavens" and the "earth"? I see nothing in descriptions of the
>> Big Bang that refer to heavens and earth like this. Is this supposed to be
>> matter and energy? Gas and solid? What does it mean? Please do
>> elucidate.
>
>So you need a written invitation from God with all the ABC's of the
>creation of the universe spelled out for you with little color
>pictures on the side?  Let's see now, what could possibly be meant by
>"earth?"  Um, well, see, I think it is this spherical kind of thing
>that we sorta live on, know what I mean?  The Qur'an was revealed at a
>time when people had no concept of any of these things you refer to
>today, so it had to be explained in terms that they would understand.
>You don't go and explain the atomic model to a kindergarten kid
>without using some of those little color pictures that I speak of
>above...  Heavens and earth refers to the universe and the fact that
>it was all joined together is rather consistent with Big Bang theory,
>wouldn't you say?
>
>I never claimed it was a *description* of Big Bang theory.  All I
>claimed was that it is *consistent* with Big Bang theory.  Maybe I
>should start using some of those little colored pictures too...
>

Who was the Quran revealed to?  If God wanted to explain the Big bang
theory why didn't he wait to explain it to someone who would understand
it?  Why didn't he teach them something simpler which they would
understand, and be useful, like maybe using fertilizers in agriculture.
After all you don't teach a Kindergarten kid the Big bang theory you
teach him the alphabets.


Manoj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: balajiv@kyoto ( )
Subject: Re: India Magnum Fund and IGF
Organization: Fujitsu America Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:37:17 GMT

Ajay Shah (ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu) wrote:
: balajiv@kyoto ( ) writes:
: 
: >itself. For instance, the Bombay Standard Index almost tripled itself in
: >the past one year, not quite justifying the slow rate of economic growth
: 
: I think it doubled, not tripled.
: 

The most recent issue of India Abroad has figures that suggest the index
almost tripled actually. I don't know which stocks the BSI tracks, but
it went up from 400-odd to over 1100-odd in the last 1 year.

: What changed was not the profitability in the short run but the
: long-term outlook.  Suddenly it looked like the country was on it's
: road to Capitalism.  What that new information, the value of owning
: (say) Reliance was much enhanced.  Hence it's market capitalisation
: went up.
: 

The point is how long will this higher value be sustained? As long as outlook
for higher foreign investment looks good? Or till the investors decide
to wake up to the reality that foreign investment, although on an 
increase, is growing at a slower pace than expected and hoped for?

: Another problem is the way the indexes are defined.  The commonest
: index is the stupid Economic Times index -- it is about as sensible
: as the Dow Jones (a bit better maybe).  For the IGF what matters is
: the 30-40 odd stocks it is made of, with some weights associated.
: The performance of these is likely to be quite different from the
: (stupid) ET index.
: 
:         -ans.
: -- 
: Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu

I feel your criticism of these market indices is harsh because 
(i) there really can be no index far superior to the DJIA or the ETI
or the Financial Times Index in measuring the activity of the stock
market. Their limitations are well-known, but for lack of something
better, they are used as indicators, not of economic activity, but of
the stock market; (ii) They represent fairly faithfully the overall
trends in the market (at least indices like  the S&P do). So if the DJIA
went down badly one day, the chances are that your equity mutual fund 
also went down as badly. In the case of IGF, the fund invests in many
of the Indian blue-chips, which is what I think the ETI monitors. So if
this index crashes, the NAV of the fund also crashes along with it,
though maybe not to the extent to which the former does, depending on
how much of the money was invested in the few stocks that do well even when
the overall market does particularly badly.

-b.
balajiv@kyoto.fai.com
--
On ne meurt qu'une fois, mais on en profite longtemps.     -Serre

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ngopalas@ha15.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: More about India
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Distribution: soc.culture.indian
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 20:27:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.162907.22585@meaddata.com> udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz) writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.205931.21733@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, tolia@plugflow.ecn.purdue.edu (Anish Arun Tolia) writes:
>|> In article <1992Oct3.005330.3347@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ngopalas@nyx.cs.du.edu (Nath Gopalaswamy) writes:
>
>It is not just Delhi, Bombay, too. And, it includes any women, Indian or 
>foreign, clad from head to toe, or not. The blatant oggling, their crude
>gestures, their gaping mouths and their lurches and onward thrusts.....

I AM surprised, I thought Bombay was one of the saner places. Though I have
hears some stories about it too first hand. Even here some of our oh so educated
countrymen STARE at passing females. The biting contempt in the females faces
sober them somewhat. But next day they are happily back at the STARING game.
I think they believe that if they STARE the female will be uncontrollably
attracted to them :-) I remember one Pooja Bhatt who complained of the same
phenomenon in India-D. To their credit however these folks target all females
irrespective of age, weight or nationality :-) Probably they believe in equal
opportunity.

>Life is a whole lot better here. I would never, ever get back there. And,
>yes it is not just restricted to the people in the trains and buses and the
>middle and lower strata, the ICS and the FCS and the MLA'a and the FRCS.
>Education has broadened only a few. The only women, who are reverred, are
>the senior citizens in saris, who look their age and weigh their weight.

A wholly understandable attitude. No wonder females do not want to go back to 
India. Another factor is that females here no longer give an opportunity to
be in physical contact with men. They travel in cars and spacious atmospheres.
So even if there were eve-teasers here they do not get a chance to make 
physical contact. Unlike India where people are always in close contact all
the time.  

>
>India will never, ever see that day........ India is over-burdened with
>ancient traditions and customs that serves more as noose getting tighter
>and tighter around her, than moving forward in the present century. 
>addressing issues of social importance, rather than splurging herself in 
>material household luxuries and selectively apeing the west in things
>that bring more harm than good.

Not all traditions are bad. There are quite a few good ones too. Maybe
that is why we do not have serial killers and serial stalkers etc out on
Indian streets. Do not make the mistake of embracing everything the west
offers. Though it is high time women were treated better in Indian society.

>
>Sylvia D. D'Cruz                                

Nath.

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:33043 rec.music.indian.misc:2704 soc.culture.tamil:2649 soc.culture.pakistan:15474 soc.culture.indian.telugu:360
From: sivaras@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Sivaramapuram Subramanyam Kris)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.misc,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: List of movies
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:33:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Oct05.233304.20241
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

In article <1992Oct4.232122.29769@cc.uow.edu.au> g9221069@cc.uow.edu.au (manik gupta) writes:
>
>>Rangula Raatnam
>Yeh konsi bhasha main hai.
>>Roja
>Tamil movie ka kya kam hai?
>>  Music director: Dilip Kumar (A.V. Raghuman)
>>  Songs:
>>    Chinna chinna asai
>>    Oru vellai mazhai
>>    Kaadal rojave
>>    Tamizha tamizha
>

Go and get your brain tinkered. What the hell are you talking about.
If you don't consider Tamil as one of the Indian languages, then I guess
you are not fit to be an Indian. Get the hell out of here and don't ever
get the idea of teasing others.

Hum log ko bhi hindi maaloom hai. If you want to test!


Krishna

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
S S Krishna 

Deptt of Computer Science
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ()
Subject: Re URDU Bhaiyo tatha baheno
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 20:40:23 GMT

In article <randivrv.717444268@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>, randivrv@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Raju) writes:
 >   Tehni sathe gujarati ma bolo anne ghar ma phane bhadhai 
 > gujarati ma bolawanu rakho. 

   inRu pOy naaLai vaa
   bye
   the tiger 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aman@cc.gatech.edu (Aman Singla)
Subject: Looking for Shailesh Gupta
Reply-To: aman@cc.gatech.edu (Aman Singla)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:51:17 GMT

Looking for  SHAILESH GUPTA - guy from PEC CHANDIGARH
in the MBA program in one of the UNIVS. at WASHINGTON DC

					
					-Aman Singla (aman@cc.gatech.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sanaka@spectra (Venugopal Sanaka)
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR AMULYA DIXIT
Organization: University of Hawaii, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:36:53 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Punit
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Test
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:16:13 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Originator: minocha@ws-53.cae.wisc.edu

This is a test: please ignore
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Back from India
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:16:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: emoryu1.1082
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!) writes:
: 
:   This Sreehari Nimmala is the same So* of a B**** who found it 
:   impossible to send some info from Emory univ since his was the
:   only address from that univ.If he could not spare a few minutes of
:   his time to bring sunshine into another's life what right does he 

You senseless IDIOT. Your mother is a Bi***. If your father is
a GUN(as you claim), put that GUN into your a** till it comes
out of your mouth. This fellow's behaviour is ridiculus. Just
because he has not got some useless info from me, he is frustrated.
He lives(at UG, Athens) some 50 miles from Atlanta and seemingly
doesn't have time to come down and get that info which brings
sunshine into this useless fellow's brother's life. Behave with
some sense.




---Nimmala Sreehari
From: katiyar@prl.dec.com (Dinesh Katiyar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: indians in paris?
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:32:39 GMT
Distribution: europe
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory


to the person from loughborough: i can't send you email for
some reason. my phone number at work is 47 14 28 77.

-dinesh
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32707 soc.culture.indian.telugu:262
From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Laksmana rekha in Ramayanam
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:46:03 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu


         I was reading the Aranya Kanda of a telugu (vachana) translation of
Valmiki Ramayana and did not find any mention of Laksmana drawing a line
imploring Sita not to cross it when he went to find Rama (after the maya mriga
shouts : hey sita, hey Laksmana). After being scolded by Sita that he was alway
in the lookout for an opprtunity like this, he goes in search of Rama.

        I have the gone through the Valmik Ramayanam itself (with text and
Hindi translation) and did not find any such mention in any of the Hindi
translations (my Sanskrit is not good enough - a very understatement). Somebody
here has Thulasidas's Ramacharita Manas and there seems to be no mention of it
in that book either. Most of us have been fed by that story from our childhood.

       My question is: how did that story got current? It seems to be prevelant
all over India and it is not in the original Ramayanam and not in the
Ramacharit Manas which most of the Hindi speaknig people would have heard the
story of Rama from.


K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
From: kulvi@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Kulvinder Bains)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Recipe for Kulfi
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:59:05 GMT
Reply-To: kulvi@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Kulvinder Bains)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA


First of all, I would like to thank everyone who replied to my request
of recipe for kulfi.  Some of you wanted a copy of the recipe so I'm
posting it here for everyone.  Special thanks to Ajay Divakaran and
Manjunath.  

Here is a recipe that I had saved off SCI. I have not tried this particular 
recipe. I have a few pointers though. Boiling 1/2 'n 1/2 is probably the 
same as using heavy/light cream. I prefer grainy-nuts rather athan a 
nutty-paste :-).
And to freeze, popsicle molds may be a good idea. I liked it alothough 
the Kulfis turn out to be bigger. (I did not use Cool Whip and Borden, I 
used just heavy cream, sugar, nuts and flavors - cardamom, saffron).


Kulfi (American style)

2  8 oz containers cool whip
1 tin condensed milk (Borden)
half and half (1 pint)
nuts - cashews, almonds, pistacchios (1 1/4 cup)
(use less of pistacchios or else will taste bitter)
saffron threads, a pinch pre-soaked in a little milk
few drops rose essence
few cardamoms, crushed

Blanch almonds. Put all nuts in a blender to make a paste. Smooth with
half and half. Pour into large bowl. Add all other ingredients and blend
well with an egg beater. Freeze, preferably in a flat pyrex dish. Keeps
upto 4 months. When ready to serve, thaw a little and top with some dry
crushed nuts, whole raisins, etc.

Variations:

Can add mango pulp (1 can) instead of the nuts. Serve topped with
sliced mango pieces.

I prefer to boil my half and half first, cool, then add to the rest.
From: sonimh@mace.cc.purdue.edu (manish soni)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: ***LOOKING FOR ANIRUDHHA PATWARDHAN AT Univ. of MINN> Duluth***
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:52:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

HI! I AM LOOKING FOR ONE Mr. ANNIRUDH HA  PATWARDHAN STUDYING AT
MINNESOTTA UNIV. AT DULUTH. PLEASE REACH/CONTACT AMIT BHIMANI
AT (317) 743 1872. W.LAFAYETTE, PURDUE UNIV. INDIANA. OR
REPLY TO THIS E-MAIL. THANKS IN ADVANCE.
From: hari@bass.bu.edu (hariharane ramasamy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: VERY IMPORTANT, READ THIS AND ACT NOW
Summary: TAX HR 4418, act now, it migh refund your money
Date: 5 Oct 92 04:00:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University

Hello everyone

	As a student i am doing my duty to forward this. please
do so as this could give back all the tax money you paid sice
1986.

hari

______________________________________________________________________



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To: hari@bu-pub.bu.edu
Status: RO

Hi everybody!!

	Do you think college students should have to pay taxes?  Our
House of Representatives is trying to decide that matter right this
minute.  It is VERY IMPORTANT that you write them a letter and help
them to decide!

	Until 1986, scholarships, fellowships, stipends, etc. were
not taxable.  The Tax Reform Act of 1986 changed all of that.  Now
they are considering repealing that section of the Tax Reform Act.

	If approved, the bill will be RETROACTIVE.  That means that

*******************************************************************
YOU COULD RECEIVE A REFUND OF ALL SCHOLARSHIP/STIPEND RELATED TAXES
YOU PAID SINCE 1986!!!
*******************************************************************

You would just need to file for a refund within one year after this
law is passed.

	Even if you have never received a fellowship, scholarship, 
grant or stipend, you might in the future.  This bill affects all
of us.  And our children.  And that affects us too cause we're the
ones who are going to pay for their school!

	Contact your state's representatives.  You can call
800/347-1997 for information about your state's representatives,
or call the House of Representatives directly at 202/224-3121 for 
information.  The number of the bill is HR 4418, and it was 
introduced by Tom Lewis, a Representative from Florida.

	So write a letter!  Have your parents write a letter!  Have
your aunts and uncles and grandparents write a letter!  Have your
dog write a letter!  Give this note to all of your classmates!  Email
it to everyone in the country and have them do the same!  This is not
a chain letter--this is real!

Sincerely,

Jimm Grimm
jimm@ghoti.iit.edu

Following is a copy of the proposed bill HR 4418.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ****2ND OCTOBER:::::GANDHI JAYANTI****
Date: 4 Oct 92 02:39:15 GMT
 <1992Oct2.140700.7643@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> <1992Oct2.160056.1282@seas.smu.edu>
 <1992Oct3.232438.25628@cc.uow.edu.au>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Oct3.232438.25628@cc.uow.edu.au>, g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil
shaikh) says:
>
>prasad@seas.smu.edu (Nageswara G. Prasad) writes:
>
>>>>2nd October, 1992:
>>>>Gandhi Jayanti: National Holiday
>>>>
>>>>Vaishnav jan to tene re kahiye
>>>>je pid parai janere
>>>>???????????????????????????
>
>>Can someone please post the above song completely.
>>    (with or without translation)
>>I have been trying to obtain it for a long time.
>> -prasad
>
>>Truth is God. God is Truth.
>
>Can anyone complete following song?
>
>Suno suno ae duniya valo bapu ki yeh amar kahani.
>voh bapu jo itna pujaya hai jitana ganga man ka pani.
>
>I think it is written by Rajender Kishan and sung by Rafi in 1948.
>
>Bye
>Adil
I hope you are not serious . It is by Narsi Mehta, is'nt it? Is this a filmi ve
rsion I have'nt heard about? Anyway it is a lovely lyric!

rajagopalan........speak your mind but take care it is'nt trash!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: banerjee@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Arindam Banerjee)
Subject: Re: World Culture and Western Culture
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:44:50 GMT

From article <14788@chalmers.se>, by d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell):
> In article <81047@ut-emx.uucp> joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang) writes:
>>Ditto.  The idea of "cultural relativism" is peculiar to the West.  I
>>can't think of any non-Western culture which advocates this idea.
> 
>   So, what view do non-Western cultures have on the relative merits of 
> different cultures? That their own is superior over all others? That their own
> is superior to some and inferior to some? That their own is inferior to
> all others? Or that 'superior' and 'inferior' don't have any meaning when
> talking about cultures (aka cultural relativism)?
> 
>>For an example for this process, take the Thirty Years War.
> 
> -bertil-
> --
> "It can be shown that for any nutty theory, beyond-the-fringe political view or
>  strange religion there exists a proponent on the Net. The proof is left as an
>  exercise for your kill-file.

Perceptions in non-Western cultures about other cultures can change.  In
the last century Hindus considered all other cultures beneath
consideration. Thus one had to get oneself purified - a really expensive
process, consisting of many rituals - after crossing the kalapani
(seas). The modern Hindu today has no status unless he has crossed the
kalapani (in an airliner).
Well , we may not have really changed after all.  Going abroad is well
regarded as it brings status in the form of money and education.  Few
Hindus would care to adopt Western culture in a fundamental way.  They
have their brief spark in their teens, but by the timethey reach the
late twenties they are swallowed up by the overwhelming Indian/Hindu
consciousness.  This attitude is bewailed by the likes of Nirad
Chaudhuri, who claims to be the only truly Westernised Hindu (actually
he is a Christian!)
There is a great deal of differentiation within Hinduism, and Hindus are
conscious that this diversity, unorganised though it is, gives them
their vitality.  We manage by believing that though our particular rites
and beliefs (relating to our localised caste, region, etc.) are the
best, others are perfectly entitled to hold this identical belief!
Obviously this philosphy suffered under the violent impact of intolerant
Islam, but we still exist!!
Arindam
    
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