HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dennis@ferranti.com (dennis gilbert)
Subject: Daylight Savings Time
Keywords: No More DST!
Organization: Ferranti International Controls Corporation
Distribution: tx
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:33:16 GMT


 If there is a better group to post this in, feel free to move
it to that group.

 Why do we still have to put up with the LOUSY Daylight Savings
Time?? Personally, I hate it and I know alot of other people who
also hate it. If they must mess around with the clock, then do it
only once and leave it that way! This bouncing the clock foward
and backward every year is nothing but a big pain in the ass.
 My kid and I must now get up in the dark and then try to get
a 9 year-old to bed when it is still daylight outside, it isn't 
easy! 

 Why do the politicians of this state (Texas) think that we need
DST? IMHO the question of DST(or not) should be put to a public
vote to asked the people if they want DST or not. I think the 
DUMB politicians would be very surprized at the outcome and make
them realize how the merchant lobbists think only of themselves
and using the extra hour of daylight to earn more money for 
themselves. Maybe, I'm wrong about the majority not wanting DST,
but I have talked to alot of people who feel the same way I do.
I wish I could take a poll to find out how the people think about
DST. I think the result would be very interesting!

Also, if any of you out there know how to send email to Texas
congressmen, send me email and let me know the email address.
Or, foward this posting to them.

Meanwhile, I hope the congressmen and merchants enjoy waking up
BEFORE the chickens!

Dennis P. Gilbert <dennis@ferranti.com>
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Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.config,alt.postmodern
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup Vandalism (was: Re: alt.cascade anyone? (was Re: Aaaaaaaiiiieeeeee...))
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 12:19:59 GMT

In article <6!1jayr.kaminski@netcom.com> kaminski@netcom.com (Peter Kaminski) writes:
>>They don't want to be programmers, any more than everyone who
>>drives a car wants to be an auto mechanic.
>
>To extend the car analogy a little further, kill file support in a
>newsreader is like windshield wipers on a car.
>
>The first cars may not have had them, or they may have required a
>mechanic to install and operate, but they soon became standard,
>easy-to-use equipment -- and they're indispensable during stormy
>weather.

That's not really accurate.  It doesn't seem to me that kill-capable
newsreaders are any more "standard" than Unix is, for example -- part
of the problem is the paucity of newsreaders for Waffle or MS-DOS, and
if you tell me that MS-DOS isn't standard I'll laugh -- and besides,
there are plenty of people who have been on Usenet for years and never
used kill files.  It's a little closer to having a radio in your car.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Well, there's homosexuality in all animals
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      / but one, and that's the pig.  If it weren't
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / for homosexuals we'd all have to live like
                                 pigs." -- overheard at Sydney Mardi Gras
Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.config,alt.drugs,alt.postmodern,alt.angst
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup Vandalism
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:39:06 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to DURRETT@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU:
>I do not read Usenet on an IBM VM/ESA "by choice." It is my only choice.

False.  It is your only _free_ and _convenient_ choice.

Value is not usually free and convenient.

If you want value (e.g. a threaded newsreader), and you're not getting
it for free, then be prepared to pay for it, or do without.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
      "Informix 4GL is not a 4G, and it's barely an L."  -- John Tombs
Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.config,alt.drugs,alt.postmodern,alt.angst
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup Vandalism (was: Re: alt.cascade anyone? (was Re: Aaaaaaaiiiieeeeee...))
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:59:32 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch):
>the effacers deprive others of the use of the newsgroup...

I contest this statement.

Unlike, say, a room, you can put 100 or 1000 people in a newsgroup.
And cascade posts can usually be killed with one keystroke by people
using threaded newsgreaders (a reasonable step in any case).

So where is the "deprivation"?
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
      "Informix 4GL is not a 4G, and it's barely an L."  -- John Tombs
Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.config,alt.drugs,alt.fan.john-palmer,alt.postmodern,alt.angst
From: barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Re: alt.cascade anyone? (was Re: Aaaaaaaiiiieeeeee...)
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 08:20:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.151211.22453@panix.com> gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:

>No, I think it's _you_ not getting it.  The whole point of the
>cascades and other, similar exercises, is to vandalize and thereby 
>efface certain newsgroups -- certain discourses.  I analyzed this 
>awhile ago as it pertained to alt.postmodern.  It's basically a

Would you mind re-posting a summary of that? This is the second place
I've seen this discussed elsewhere and if, as you say,

>Probably, we're doomed to an increasing tide of this sort of
>thing as more and more people get on the net.  Most people are

like me, completely innocent to what's going on, and are going to
make "What's a cascade?" a FAQ faster than you can say, "I'm
completely hooked into the established order."

>completely hooked into the established order, having had the
>mass media, especially network television, brainwash them for
>thousands of hours before they're even out of childhood.  If
>you doubt this, just look around.  The Net is hardly different
>from the schoolyard, where young thugs emulate the teachers
>indoors by enforcing what "everybody" knows is right.

If you want to prevent this, *please* tell us knuckleheads what
it is and how to prevent it (other than, of course, bringing more
women on the net so it doesn't look so much like the schoolyard at
a boys' boarding school).

Aaron Barnhart
barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us




Newsgroups: news.misc
From: cosc161m@menudo.uh.edu (92s07275)
Subject: URGENT: OS/multimedia papers needed as soon as possible
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:52:26 GMT

        I am writing a survey paper on "multi-structured I/O file systems that
use various techniques to provide higher data transfer rates for multimedia
applications on object-oriented distributed computing systems."  I would
appreciate it very much if anybody knows of any ftp sites for OS/multimedia
papers.  Also, if you have a copy of any of the papers (postscript format)
mentioned below or know how to contact the authors of the papers or have other
papers relating to OS/multimedia, could you please email the papers or any
information on how to obtain them or other papers to me as soon as possible.
My email address is:   cosc161m@menudo.uh.edu


I already have the three papers at the "icsi-ftp.Berkeley.EDU" site in the
directory "pub/dash".
********

        In particular, I am looking for the following papers:



"Designing file systems for digital audio and video"

Authors: P. Venkat Rangan & Harrick M. Vin
DEPTCSE., Univ. of California, San Diego
Proceedings of the 13th Symposium on Operating System Principles
ACM. SIGOPS 13 Oct. 1991



"Support for Continuous Media in the DASH systems"

Authors: David P. Anderson, Shin-Yuan Tzou & Robert Wahbe
Proc. 10th International Conference on Distributed Computing Systems
Paris, May 28-June 1, 1990.
IEEE



"Distributed processing of multimedia information"

Authors: E. Moeller, A. Schller & G. Shunmann
Proc. 10th International Conference on Distributed Computing Systems
Paris, May 28-June 1, 1990.
IEEE.

***************

      I am also trying to find any papers from the: 
Proceedings of the International Conference on Multimedia Information Systems,
Singapore, Jan. 1991.


"A Variable Rate Strategy for Retrieving Audio Data From Secondary Storage"

Authors: A. Park & P. English
Proceedings of the International Conference on Multimedia Information Systems,
Singapore, Jan. 1991, 135-146.



"Abstractions for Continuous Media in a Network Window System"

Authors: D.P. Anderson, R. Govindan and G. Homsy
Proceedings of the International Conference on Multimedia Information Systems,
Singapore, Jan. 1991.


*************
        And finally,


"A Testbed For Managing Digital Video and Audio Storage"

Authors: P.V. Rangan, W.A. Burkard, R.W. Bowdidge, H.M. Vin, H.W. Lindwall
         K. Chan, I.A. Aaberg, L.M Yamamoto & I.G. Harris
Proceedings of the 1991 Summer USENIX Conference, Nashville, TN, June 10-14,
1991, 199-208.



"Principles of Delay Sensitive Multi-media Data Storage and Retrieval"

Authors: J. Gemmell & S. Christodoulakis
ACM TOIS (to appear), 1991.

****************************************************************************
Rahul Aggarwal, Graduate Student at the University of Houston.

"Report Due at the end of this month, so PLEASE email replies soon"

                 !!!Resources at library are next to nothing!!!
****************************************************************************

Xref: sparky news.misc:958 alt.config:3023 alt.postmodern:1312
From: cawilco@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Chris A. Wilcox)
Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.config,alt.postmodern
Subject: Re: Newsgroup Vandalism (was: Re: alt.cascade anyone? (was Re: Aaaaaaaiiiieeeeee...))
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:21:21 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Apr15.215753.18575@panix.com> gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:
(Three levels of quotes deleted...)
>
>You misunderstand me.  I'm not talking about whether people
>have excuses or not according to someone's idea of what's
>just or right.  There are people I want on the net because
>they're bright or witty or have original ideas or know something.
>They don't want to be programmers, any more than everyone who
>drives a car wants to be an auto 
mechanic.

The analogy doesn't fit. A more appropriate analogy would be that
of people who drive cars not reading the owners manual on how
to get the hood open, or the correct tires to use. Like anything
else, a computer is a tool, and if somebody doesn't read the
instructions on how to use that tool, then I can't feel pity for
him or her.

>                                       As a set of people,
>computer programmers have a rather narrow view of the world,

I'll spot you that one. :-)

>* Gordon Fitch    |    gcf@panix.com 
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***************************************************************************
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  None of the above statements necessarily represent the views of the DOD.
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Xref: sparky news.misc:915 news.newusers.questions:2290
From: naik@nynexst.com (Jay Naik)
Newsgroups: news.misc,news.newusers.questions
Subject: Site-node address database
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:16:33 GMT
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology


	Is there a readily available (via ftp) database which has ALL the
nodes in the internet/csnet/arpanet and other networks and their
geographic/postal addresses? Thanks.
 
 Jay Naik
 NYNEX Science and Technology
 500 Westchester ave. 
 White Plains  NY  10604   naik@nynexst.com
Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.config,alt.drugs,alt.fan.john-palmer,alt.postmodern,alt.angst
From: gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch)
Subject: Re: alt.cascade anyone? (was Re: Aaaaaaaiiiieeeeee...)
Summary: newsgroup van
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:12:11 GMT
Organization: mydog in exile

peter@cybnet.toppoint.de or ziegast@uunet.uu.net (Eric W. Ziegast):
| >: Your plea may be falling on deaf ears.

rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain):
| >I hope so.  I *love* these things.  Please you guys that don't, just
| >put something in your kill file.  It really isn't that hard.  They will
| >all begin with Aiieeeee or some variation thereof.  Perhaps the rest of

sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol):
| You still don't get it! These messages are transferred over the phone line
| and cost money to some of the sysadmins out there, WHETHER OR NOT THEY READ
| IT. They're not asking you to kill the thread, they're asking you to take
| it out of an inappropriate newsgroup. Some people have to pay long distance
| phone charges or other charges to get news and I can understand why they don't
| want stuff in alt.drugs that obviously doesn't belong there.

No, I think it's _you_ not getting it.  The whole point of the
cascades and other, similar exercises, is to vandalize and thereby 
efface certain newsgroups -- certain discourses.  I analyzed this 
awhile ago as it pertained to alt.postmodern.  It's basically a
power game, where the players demonstrate their loyalty to
established authority, but in such a way as to _appear_ to be
rebels or gadflies.  The key to understanding this is to notice
in which groups the vandalization takes place -- for instace,
serious comp groups are left strictly alone.  After all, pissing
off someone in comp.unix.wizards might someday affect your
_career_.

Probably, we're doomed to an increasing tide of this sort of
thing as more and more people get on the net.  Most people are
completely hooked into the established order, having had the
mass media, especially network television, brainwash them for
thousands of hours before they're even out of childhood.  If
you doubt this, just look around.  The Net is hardly different
from the schoolyard, where young thugs emulate the teachers
indoors by enforcing what "everybody" knows is right.
-- 
* Gordon Fitch    |    gcf@panix.com
From: andyb@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Andy Brager)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: Re: "Information Request" idea
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:28:25 GMT
Organization: Wonder Server - Public Access for SoCal

kraig@biostr.washington.edu (Kraig Eno) writes:

>I have a problem, and a solution, and I'd like to hear what you think 
>about it.

>First, the problem.  Say I post a question to a Unix newsgroup asking some 
>easy question like "how do I get a list of files?"  Later on, the Unix 
>guru sri lsinodutar reads the group and sees the request for information.  
>He might say to himself, "Self, I can answer that but the question is so 
>easy that someone must have answered it already".  Or, if he's feeling 
>magnanimous that day, he might say, "I'm going to tell this guy ALL about 
>ls just in case he hasn't heard yet."

>The problem here is that, depending on the moods of the various people and 
>how long it takes them to see a request, a given plea may produce a 
>mailbox full of duplicate information or nothing at all.  In the former 
>case, I might post a message saying "enough already!", and in the latter, 
>I might wait a week and then post the question again.

If the original poster sends out a cancel message when he has his
answer, the problem would go away I think.

Andy

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Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.config,alt.drugs,alt.postmodern,alt.angst
From: cgy@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: news.misc,alt.config,alt.drugs,alt.postmodern,alt.angst
Subject: Re: alt.cascade anyone? (was Re: Aaaaaaaiiiieeeeee...)
Date: 10 Apr 1992 02:27:12 GMT
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.cs.brown.edu

In article <1992Apr9.151211.22453@panix.com> gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:
>
>No, I think it's _you_ not getting it.  The whole point of the
>cascades and other, similar exercises, is to vandalize and thereby 
>efface certain newsgroups -- certain discourses.  I analyzed this 
>awhile ago as it pertained to alt.postmodern.  It's basically a
>power game, where the players demonstrate their loyalty to
>established authority, but in such a way as to _appear_ to be
>rebels or gadflies.  The key to understanding this is to notice
>in which groups the vandalization takes place -- for instace,
>serious comp groups are left strictly alone.  After all, pissing
>off someone in comp.unix.wizards might someday affect your
>_career_.

Christ.  I guess I'm just another foolish little optimist; I used to think
you folks wrote papers and essays and critiques in this pleasantly empty
vein all day at work, just good ol' boys trying to get ahead in a harsh
world, then went home and said to yourself, "Whew.  Damn, it's good to get
all that bull-shit off mah mind.  Now I can just settle down and live the
good life off all them bucks they pay me to teach at this jerkwater
junior-college."

But, no.  My faith in humanity, shattered again.  You actually believe what
you're saying.  Stoned kite-high on yourself and not comin' down no time
soon.  Ye gods.

You might as well limit the damage and spring for a visa to Mars, before you
just drift away through the Oort cloud and out into interstellar space.

c
Newsgroups: news.lists
From: newsstats@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Top 25 News Groups for the last 2 weeks
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:30:46 GMT

         No. of        $ Cost  % of  Cumulative
Rank  Kbytes Articles per Site Total  % of Total  Group (Articles/contributor)
   1 20247.3     443     53.43  4.9%     4.9%     alt.binaries.pictures.erotica (5.2)
   2 16637.4     429     43.90  4.0%     8.9%     alt.binaries.pictures.misc (4.5)
   3  6052.4      12     15.97  1.5%    10.4%     la.news (2.0)
   4  5984.9       2     15.79  1.4%    11.8%     hac.usenet (2.0)
   5  4694.0    2023     12.39  1.1%    13.0%     talk.politics.misc (3.4)
   6  4557.7    1357     12.03  1.1%    14.1%     bionet.molbio.genbank.updates (1.0)
   7  4508.9     120     11.90  1.1%    15.2%     alt.binaries.pictures (3.8)
   8  4168.2     196     11.00  1.0%    16.2%     comp.mail.maps (1.0)
   9  3689.1      93      9.74  0.9%    17.1%     comp.binaries.os2 (1.0)
  10  3247.2    1511      8.57  0.8%    17.9%     rec.arts.movies (2.2)
  11  3154.1    1175      8.32  0.8%    18.6%     alt.sex (1.9)
  12  3147.1     141      8.30  0.8%    19.4%     news.answers (1.0)
  13  3117.2      65      8.23  0.8%    20.1%     comp.sources.misc (1.0)
  14  3030.2     747      8.00  0.7%    20.9%     alt.activism (2.6)
  15  2989.6    1159      7.89  0.7%    21.6%     talk.politics.mideast (5.8)
  16  2948.8     120      7.78  0.7%    22.3%     alt.sources (1.8)
  17  2585.4    1384      6.82  0.6%    22.9%     talk.abortion (7.0)
  18  2553.9    1342      6.74  0.6%    23.6%     rec.games.frp (2.6)
  19  2543.1    1536      6.71  0.6%    24.2%     rec.arts.tv.soaps (4.0)
  20  2522.4      69      6.66  0.6%    24.8%     alt.sex.pictures (3.0)
  21  2436.5    2030      6.43  0.6%    25.4%     rec.sport.basketball.college (3.8)
  22  2361.4    1771      6.23  0.6%    26.0%     soc.motss (4.3)
  23  2232.3      52      5.89  0.5%    26.5%     comp.binaries.mac (1.0)
  24  2171.7    1213      5.73  0.5%    27.0%     rec.arts.startrek.current (2.9)
  25  2102.2    1459      5.55  0.5%    27.5%     rec.arts.comics (2.9)

$ Cost is the cost of sending it over a Trailblazer to UUNET, using the 
800 number and Night rates. (1000 characters per second and $9.50 per hour)
I.e .264 cents per kilobyte
Newsgroups: news.lists
From: stefan@spc.nl (Stefan Posthuma)
Newsgroups: news.announce.conferences
Subject: Client-server migration conference
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:09:34 GMT
Expires: Wed, 20 May 1992 07:00:00 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: SPC Company BV, The Netherlands


SPC/Company will organize an one day conference about the process of migration
from a central environment to a client/server environment at May 20th, 1992
in Utrecht, The Netherlands.

More and more parts of the business process are automated and are connected
in one centralized system, something that seems more and more unattractive.

The alternative is "downsizing".
"Downsizing", by application of the client/server principle, is a system which
promises to decrease the cost of automation and to be more effective.

However, the switch over from a centralized infrastructure to a client/server
environment is a process that demands preparation and expertise.

What are the standards and which ones do you have to choose? What are the
consequences of client/server architecture for my business organization? You
have to answer these questions during the switch over.

During the conference the following subjects will be discussed:

* availability of dataservers, clients and tools of development
* standardization
* preparation of IT-workers for the client/server environment
* projectmanagement
* consequences for the business organisation
* downsizing

SPC/Company is the organizer of the conference. SPC/Company develops
administrative software and has been specialized in the operating system Unix
since 1985.

The one conference is meant for EDP-managers, systems administrators, managers
and advisors of automation, that want to familiarize themselves or are working
on the migrationprocess to client/server architecture.

The program of the conference "Migration to Client/Server Architectuur" goes
through the process of migration on a step by step basis. Also, the program
will prepare you for the problems you might come across and the choices you
will probablly have to make. You can read the lectures in the documentation
folder, which you will receive at the end of the day.

If you are interested in this subject and you want to attend the conference,
email us at joost@spc.nl.
The conference will be held in Dutch, and entry fee is Dfl 745,-

SPC Company, The Netherlands
--
"We convoke the Nephilim and they come  {*}  Stefan Posthuma,  SPC Company
to us, strangers with the eyes of men."  |   stefan@spc.nl
Newsgroups: news.announce.conferences
From: fa_chis@pavo.concordia.ca (KANT B. REEL)
Newsgroups: news.announce.conferences
Subject: 3Dmt International Conference
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:10:23 GMT
Expires: Fri, 1 May 1992 07:00:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University


The Second International Conference on Three Dimensional Media Technologies

will take place November 3-5 at Le Centre Sheraton Hotel in Montreal, Quebec,

Canada.

The Conference will feature:

*3D film;
*3D Video/Television Systems;
*Stereoscopic Computer Graphics/Animation
*Virtual reality/Simulations
*Holography
*Spatial Sound Systems;
*3D Multi-media Technologies;
*3D Theory and Research;
*3D Media Production and Marketing,

and will include previews,screenings, demos, and exhibits of 3D Media.

3Dmt is accepting paper submissions. Please forward an abstract of 250-300
words to the Conference Director by the May 1, 1992 deadline.

Exhibition space is also available.  In order to make a reservation, or for
more detailed information and prices, please forward your facility and dis-
play requirements, sq. meters/feet, etc. to the Center.

Hal Thwaites, Conference Director
3Dmt Center, Concordia University
7141 Sherbrooke St. West
Montreal, Quebec, Canada H4B 1R6

Ph. (5140 848-2539  FAX (514) 848-3492
E-Mail: Hal@Vax2.Concordia.CA

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