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From: mary@zmax.com (Mary Papp)
Subject: Re: heartbreaking story...
Organization: Z/Max Computer Solutions, Inc.
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:18:47 GMT

I was really upset to read that story, the world is full of cruel people who
get pleasure out of hurting something that can not fight back.  To someone 
like myself, who cares deeply about all animals, it makes me sick.  Ever 
since I have been a little girl I have read stories about children who have
been deliberatly cruel to animals.   I wouldn't be suprised if these 
children came from homes that were filled with cruelty.  They have probably
been raised to it so they manifest it in what they think it normal childhood
play.

I guess the only thing you can do is say a quiet prayer for those disturbed
boys and hope that one day they see the error of their ways.  I am glad that
the woman rescued the tiny furball I hope she/he has a long and happy kitty
life.

That is the kind of article that really makes one think...

Mary
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From: jessica@wrs.com (Jessica Hart)
Subject: Re: Has my cat gone mad?
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:45:16 GMT


My cat also changes personality totally when he gets into the
bathroom! But, only at a certain time of day!

When I first get up and head into the bathroom, Hobbes comes
padding in behind me and flops down by my feet, rolls over
on his back and wants to play "put your foot on my fuzzy tummy."
Then he attacks the foot, which could just about tickle you
to death (he is such a gentleman, he never uses his claws or
bites hard). First he nibbles, then he licks the end of the big
toe, then nibbles again.

If I go out into the hallway, he comes out but doesn't want to
play Footsie any more. In the hallway, he is either "supervisor
cat" or "jump after the toy" cat, never "footsie tummy cat."
If we go back in the bathroom, he instantly flops down and rolls
over again for another game of Footsie!

This is only a morning thing. Later in the day, the bathroom becomes
"watch the water in the shower" or "serious expression on my face
when I'm in the litterbox" territory.

I guess it's obvious I'm totally dotty about my new cat! (He's a lovely
Balinese cross, 6 months old, and totally relaxed. You can do anything
to him and he's totally secure. Even pilling him was no problem!)

My other two don't change much, they are pretty much Fungus Cats
no matter what room they are in. They are Fungus on the bed with us
at night, then they move on out to the window seat and do the
Fungus thing there all day. Occasionally they will play with
Hobbes, though. The only thing they all have in common is they
love their flea combing. If one is being combed, the others all
crowd around.

I would be interested in finding out if other people notice
their cats changing their behavior depending on what room they
are in. I never thought about it before, but it explains a lot
about my cats!

jessica@wrs.com

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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Help needed to save cat's life
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:24:59 GMT

Deborah Schlow (dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca) wrote:

: It sounds to me like you need to dump your girlfriend and find one
: that has more patience with scared, traumatized, and possibly sick
: animals and less concern about cleaning up a little cat poop. Does she
: want children? What does she think years of diapers will be like? I
: think that the cat needs a trip to the vet to see if he/she has FUS or
: another medical problem which needs attention. If you drop her in the
: woods she will die a slow, painful death or be killed savagely by
: another, bigger predator. If you can't handle her, at least take her
: to a Humande Society where the cat might have a chance of finding
: another home.

I agree 100%!  Love me, love my cats!
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                  erc@apple.com                     801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith)
Subject: Re: does your cat do this?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:38:41 GMT

In article <Bvuu63.9Kw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, larsenp@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Paul Larsen) writes:
> 
> My wife and I have come to the conclusion that our cat is a sports afficianado.
> Quite often when we have a basketball or baseball game on the cat will become
> quite interested in it.  This usually ends up with her jumping up onto the tv
> and peering down to the screen like a vulture.  After watching the game for a 
> little while, she will start following the ball with her head and then start
> batting at the ball with her paw.  This can go on for 15-20 minutes until she
> gets bored.  Does anyone else's cat do this?
> Oh yeah, one other thing.  The cat also practically refuses to drink water
> out of her bowl.   I guess that she thinks that she is above that.  She 
> "prefers" to drink water straight from the tap.  Is this weird or do all cats
> do this?
> 
> 
> 
> Paul Larsen
> larsenp@mace.cc.purdue.edu
> 
> 
> 

Our cats and dog are faithful sports companions for Monday night football. The
louder the TV the better too.  I don't get it and since I don't like loud
football, I generally go out and leave the "kids" home to watch (hubby
included).   The only other shows they watch are the nature ones with 
interesting birds noises.  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (Jonathan Byrd)
Subject: Coincidence or conspiracy?
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:13:41 GMT
Organization: University of Utah

	I was eating lunch today when my two kittens, Molly and Angie,
came in from outside.  Angie jumped on my lap (as she usually does) to
greet me, and obtain some scritching.

	Molly, usually a very mellow kitty, went straight to the
scratching post, and began furiously attacking it.  She spun around
and around on her side, clawing the post and making high-pitched
little growling noises.  She did this so frantically that I started to
laugh.  Soon tears were coming from my eyes.

	As I wiped my eyes, I looked down and noticed that Angie was
dragging the meat out of my sandwich.

--
jonathan byrd
jon@apollo.med.utah.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger)
Subject: Re: Phone hating cat
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:50:24 GMT

Charlie's 11 now and has heard the phone ring more times than I can count,
especially since I was self-employed for most of his first 9 years and
my business phone would ring a lot.  To this day, the phone spooks him
and he acts like he's never heard it ring before.  If he's in my lap
when it rings, I usually get mauled as he frantically tries to run.
And, when he spooks, he also spooks Sarah so if he's not in my lap and
she is, I still get mauled :-(.  Can't wait til he teaches this to the
new baby :-}.

Judith and Charlie and Sarah and BB

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From: moe@rainier.lib.washington.edu (Joe Shippert)
Subject: Most Common Name (was Re: 'bye Tess)
Organization: University of Washington Libraries, Seattle
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:37:58 GMT

In>Susan McIntosh (SUSANMC@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu) wrote:

>>>*Sniff*.  A big hug from KC, Oreo and me.  Take care.

First of all I'd like to give my own condeolences and hope that my own
recently departed Mary will help her feel welcome in kitty heaven if you
believe in such a thing.

Second, this has to be the millionth post about someone's cat named Oreo! 
Don't get me wrong, I considered calling my new cat Oreo too. It's a good 
for a black and white kitty. But is it the most common name in use today?
If not what is. 

If someone want to start tabulating names; the cats in my recent life have 
been: Mary (RIP), Cyrus, Lolita, Amy, Drusilla, and Mildred.


-- 
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
moe@u.washington.edu

No one is fool enough to choose war instead of peace - in peace sons bury
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Distribution: world
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: fibrosarcoma advice wanted
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:36:44 -0500

i am looking for any knowledge or experience anyone has with the type
of cancer called fibrosarcoma, and especially a new chemotherapy called
"acemannen immunostimulant".

my 13 year old leela has recently been diagnosed with it, it starts as small
apparently harmless but fastgrowing lumps, and is invasive, malignant, and
eventually fatal, though it usually doesn't metastisize.  

the first sugery was to biopsy a single smalll lump.  5 weeks later she had
surgery again to remove more lumps: all small but there were lots of them.
the surgery was very hard on her-she wouldn't walk or eat for 2 days and 
screamed if you touched her sore places.  she seems all right now except that
3 weeks post surgery the lumps are already returning, though they don't
bother her yet.

the usual belief with fibrosacroma is that chemotherapy and radiation are 
useless, all you can do is surgery over and over to remove the tumors till
the cat can't take it anymore, then euthanasia.  but this new drug is just
out on the market and i plan to try it.  anything to try to save her from
the pain of repeated surgery.

they say that acemannan immunostimulant needs to be given by injection: some
into the tumor and some into the belly, weekly for 6 weeks.  the tumors
swell up and turn gangrenous and disgusting, which makes one more surgery
needed to remove them once they are "ripe".  then monthly imjection in the
belly for 6 months.  there are allegedly no other side effects.

they claim a 40% remission rate(defined for cats as no cancer returning after
1 year) vs a virtually 0% remission rate with surgery alone.

if anyone knows anything about this drug or this kind of cancer please let me
know.

leela is my oldest(i have 4 teenage cats and an 8 yearold) and has always been
the most precious.  when both my dogs died(age14 and 10) within the past 2
years it was leela who did the most to comfort me.  this makes it even worse
 when she is too sick to care how i feel, or worse, when she tries to help
me not knowing it's her i'm crying about.  and i know with a house full of
old cats i'm going to lose them in the next few years.
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
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From: Daniel A. Torrey <daniel@boombox.micro.umn.edu>
Subject: New Kitty and Old Kitty
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:42:58 GMT
X-Xxdate: Fri, 9 Oct 92 17: 36:31 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6FB1F3F35018258@terrapin.micro.umn.edu>
Organization: CIS/DSP University of Minnesota

I have a one-year-old kitty, Mao by name, and I'm thinking about getting
another one.  I'd like Mao to have a little company when I'm not around.

Is there a good way to introduce the new kitten to Mao?  I live in a
small apartment, so keeping them separate isn't practical; also, they'll
have to share a litterbox.  Is that a bad idea?

Finally, I'm thinking about having Mao declawed.  Should I do this before
or after I bring home another kitten?

---

Daniel A. Torrey
CIS/DSP University of Minnesota
daniel@boombox.micro.umn.edu
(612) 626-8663
From: lruben@persian.csd.sgi.com (Lara Ruben)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: re: ovitrol flea spray
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:42:43 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

]I have been using aproduct called Ovitrol on my cat
]to prevent  fleas.  This is on the advice of my vet.
]The product contains Methoprene and pyrethrins,
]and some other stuff I don't recognize.
]The directions say it is approved for use on cats.
]The directions also say to rub the stuff thouroughly
]into the animals coat, which I do.
]The problem is, my cat becomes extremely lethargic and
]out of it for a day or more after application.
]Am I doing something toxic to my cat?  She is already
]known to be extremely senstive to Carbaryl  (foams at the
]mouth and twitches) so I can't use that.
]
]                                 Bonnie


I've used this spray on my 14 year old cat for a few years now.  The first
time I doused him he started foaming at the mouth and scared me half to
death.  Apparently the taste is so bitter that it causes excessive
salivation.  Since then, I only spray certain areas at one time - covering
his whole body over a period of several days, obviously not the most
effective flea control program.  Like you, I wonder about the toxicity of
this stuff but haven't heard anything negative about it yet.  Theodore
doesn't experience the lethargy that your cat does though, so you may want
to cut back on the frequency of spray or do it in stages.

Good Luck!

===================================================================
                          
Lara Ruben                      Silicon Graphics, Inc.
(415)390-5335                   CSD Finance
email:lruben@csd.sgi.com        Mailstop 12L-130                        
                        
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Re: Most Common Name (was Re: 'bye Tess)
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:12:08 GMT


I often wonder about that too. In fact, I even know of a dog named
Oreo! But, back to cats! 

For the name bin my cats are called Pixel and Dante. Dante is
black and white and VERY oddly marked. Pixel is a sealpt 
Siamese. When I feel like being musical I call him Dante   
Aligheri as it rolls off the tongue so nicely in a sing-songy
type of voice. :) Dante is the quilting cat (he goes nuts 
and purrs so loud you can hear him the other side of 
the room when I get the big fabric box out) and Pixel
is the computer kitty (she does the same thing when you
head towards the 'office' where the 'puter is and she
KNOWS when you are going there and not the bedroom
even though they are both upstairs and next to
each other!!!!). Although now that it's getting colder
and she's slimmed down (was eating Dante's kitten
food for a while) she's started to find piles of fabric
pretty interesting  and nice to curl up on. :)

Kay Schlumpf &
Peter (human hubby) & 
Baeki (black Cocker) &
Pixel (sealpt Siamese) &
Dante (weirdo b&w DLH) &
Siegfried (black GSD puppy).
 
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From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Cat names
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 15:11:25 GMT

In article <nvrswt.4@nul.orst.edu> nvrswt@nul.orst.edu (Never Sweat) writes:
>This might be a place to satisfy my curiosity about a cat name.
>
>One of my former wives got me a kitten and named him Anqua.  She said that 
>it was Greek for "life's lover", or "lover of life".  I have always thought 
>it a 'purfect' name for a cat, especialy him, but I've always wondered if 
>she was right.
>
>Does anyone know what 'anqua' really means?

Might be related to the Egyptian "ankh", which is that sort of cross-with-a-
loop-on-top symbol for life. "Anqua" doesn't sound like Greek to me, though I 
confess my classical Greek is just a tad rusty these days :-).

I have friends who had two smoke-grey cats named the Greek for thunder (bronte)
and lightning (astrape) (or at least that's what they said it meant). The
names were very appropriate: Bronte was a big hulking neutered male, and
Astra (for short) was a tiny light-footed quick female.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin J. Thommes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: is this flea spray toxic?
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:12:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bvt90q.G2y
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Have you bathed your cat for fleas??  Flea sprays really are made to
be used in-between bathings, and should only be sprayed around the neck,
rump, and groin area where fleas usually try to go first.  Ovitrol
is in fact safe to use on cats but sprays should only be used to 
supplement a bath rather than substituting for one because sprays are
more toxic than baths.  If your cat has problmes with carbaryl, you might
want to try using a product with d-limolene as the active ingredient to
kill the fleas.  You can ask your vet if he/she knows anyone who sells it
because it seems to be less toxic to the pet and it smells nice :-)
Like an orange grove :-)  Anyway, try and bathe your cat to kill the
fleas initially and then use the spray to keep them off.  (Yes, I am
well aware of what a joy it is to bathe a cat ;-)

Good luck!!


-- 
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From: rns@af2.mlb.semi.harris.com (Renee Sumperl)
Subject: Manx personalities
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:13:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

 Do Manx cats have good personalities? I have a chance of adopting a 
 1 year old neutered male.


                                   Thanks,
                                    Renee
From: feldman@flash.crd.ge.com (Sandra F Feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Head butting (was Why Do Cats Lick Humans?)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:48:30 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

I think my cat Pepper is the ultimate head-butter.  You can be eating something,
leaning over the table and reading the paper, and in comes Pepper.  You can be
sitting on the couch knitting, and in comes Pepper.  He LOVES to rub his head
and his very cold very wet nose against people's faces.  In fact, he loves to 
head butt so much that he has worn the fur off the sides of his face just in
front of the ears.  When we got him from the humane society, he was busy 
head butting the bars of his cage.  We assumed he was itching his fleas.  Silly
us.  He was comforting himself.

Sandy
From: dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow)
Subject: Re: Tasha catches first mouse, owners concerned :-)
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:36:11 GMT

Relax.
I live on the eighth floor of a high-rise. Last year, I stumbled out
one morning to find my fifteen year-ole, lifelong indoor cat sitting
very proudly in the middle of the kitchen floor, clutching her first
mouse between her paws. It was quite wet, because she had recently had
a lot of her teeth pulled to correct some gum disease. My vet said the
chances of her getting a disease were marginal, and that most well-fed
cats only want to chase, not eat.
This cat, Vera, will only drink out of a full bathtub with someone,
preferably me, but she's not that choosy, it it. The hotter the water,
the more bath oil, the better. She has always refused, for sixteen 1/2
years to drink from a bowl. My ten year old, Sting, prefers the
toilet, but only if the seat has been left up. She will drink out of a
bowl under duress, but prefers the toilet, or the disgusting dirty
pools left on the balcony after a rainstorm, or the water that leaks
out from the bottom of my plant pots after I water them.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams)
Subject: Re: not quite cruel
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:44:00 GMT

Ouch!  That touches a sore spot.  When I was very young, I wanted to see
if my brother's guinnea pig could swim, so I dropped it in the aquarium
where it drowned.  I still mentally wince when I remember it even though
I was 3 or 4 when I did it and barely recall the incident.  The motto
below applies.

As I write this, Murphy is crying because I won't let him into the
computer room with me.  Sorry, Murphy, too many wires, voltages and
chemicals around here to be safe.  He got his first innoculations and a
clean bill of health from the vet yesterday.  His 3 litter mates were
put to sleep by the animal shelter my co-workers took them to, so he is
a lucky kitty.

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From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Kitten names + comment on neutering
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:11:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.144614.1@master.uchicago.edu> david@master.uchicago.edu writes:
>I personally don't like neutering them that early -- the chicago animal
>control does it even earlier, so I didn't adopt from them, but from the 
>anti-cruelty society which let me wait until 6 mos.

My understanding is that early neutering increases the chance of the cat
developing FUS.  FUS (Feline Urinary Syndrome) is *nasty*, and can require
surgery in severe cases.

I would NEVER neuter a male cat before 6 months.  According the "The Natural
Cat", a male cat should not be neutered until the urine changes odor (and
believe me, the odor change is VERY noticable -- Frosty is about 6 months
old and his urine changed odor within the last two weeks -- time to call the
vet!).  Supposedly, the odor change is the signal that the testosterone has
done almost all its work.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

Don't feed the bats tonight.
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From: isc40041@nusunix1.nus.sg (LOO KOK HOE)
Subject: Re: Taking a pet into Singapore.
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:37:48 GMT

Joyce Brabner (ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
: 
: Hey!
:  
: If you can e-mail from Singapore, will you let us know if you
: spot any of the famous Singapore "drain cats"?  They are so
: named because they are supposed to be very small.  Enough to
: slip down the bath tub drain.
:  
: *****j*****

Hi Joyce 

I am not sure what u mean ... 
Are u refering to Singapura ?


george

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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Has my cat gone mad?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:09:59 GMT

nvonstein@memstvx1.memst.edu wrote:

: Yes!!  My bed!!  And with 7 (yes - seven) cats it gets rather messy!  But I
: love everyone of them.

Just 7???  Hell, the more, the merrier! :)
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                  erc@apple.com                     801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats