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From: markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer)
Subject: Re: Disk Doubler
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 17:03:35 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

In article <1992Sep09.125358.12904@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>, zcapd49@ucl.ac.uk (Mr C Jomaron) writes:
|> tron@uni-paderborn.de (Matthias Scheler) writes:
|> 
|> >David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us (David Corn) writes:
[...]
|> 
|> >Wait for XPK Release 2 ! The XFH-Handler supplied with this version can

   ^^^^^^
[...]
|> >-- 
|> >Matthias Scheler                                         tron@uni-paderborn.de
[...]
|> Chris

 Hey, can't you read ? Just be patient. Urban told me, that XPK V2.3 will be
 released RSN. It will be announced of course, or just read the postings here.

 All other versions of XPK (1.0 is a Beta Release, please delete it,
 and V2.2 is still temporarly copyrighted by a german Amiga Mag until
 31.9.92 ) are obsolete then.

 Markus

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: casey@morale.lexmark.lex.usa.na (Patrick Casey)
Subject: Re: dvips for use with PasTeX 1.3
X-Disclaimer: These views are the poster's and not necessarily those of Lexmark
Reply-To: pacasey@lexmark.com
Organization: Lexmark International, Lexington KY
	<5664@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:11:07 GMT

In article <5664@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> stern+@pitt.edu (Eric G Stern) writes:
   I did a port of the labrea.stanford sources of dvips 5.47 which I
   use myself.  I haven't released it since it seemed there were plenty
   of others floating around.  Anyway, I have not had trouble using it
   with Post.  If people are interested, I can upload it.

I'm interested in your port.  Why don't you go ahead and upload it?

Patrick

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: tron@uni-paderborn.de (Matthias Scheler)
Subject: Re: Disk Doubler
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:06:23 GMT

David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us (David Corn) writes:


>re:XPK

>As of the last version I saw, 1.0, it could not compress, ON THE FLY,
>files saved to it - one had to manually compress the files.  Also, it
>didn't seem to save as much space as Imploder did.

>For the short term, I'll stick with Imploder.

>I want something that I put in WBStartup, and is automatic from there on
>out.  The Mac has it (Autodoubler) ... why can't we?

Wait for XPK Release 2 ! The XFH-Handler supplied with this version can
crunch files automatically. BTW Implder may be more efficient on executables,
but you can't crunch datafiles with it, because no program would be able
to read them anymore.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: mrz50957@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Matthew Robert Zeier)
Subject: C complier/linker wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:21:39 GMT
Keywords: c

I'm trying to find a good C compiler/linker, preferably a PD one.  Something
simple as I am just teaching myself C.  Lattice is much too expensive for me
at the moment, so I would prefer to find a PD version.  

If you can help me in any way, please email at this address (different from
this nn posting address):

jmo50888@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Thanks a bunch!


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From: stern+@pitt.edu (Eric G Stern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: dvips for use with PasTeX 1.3
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:44:08 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1595@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> jpjt@ukc.ac.uk (J.P.J.Thomas) writes:
>In article <1992Sep5.073724.6033@ultb.isc.rit.edu> kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders ) writes:
>>
>>	Does anyone know where to find the Amiga port of dvips?  According
>>to the documentation from PasTeX 1.3, it does exist.
>

I did a port of the labrea.stanford sources of dvips 5.47 which I
use myself.  I haven't released it since it seemed there were plenty
of others floating around.  Anyway, I have not had trouble using it
with Post.  If people are interested, I can upload it.

			Eric Stern
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: JRComm and Kermit
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:28:59 GMT

kopackm@lonex.rl.af.mil (Michael A. Kopack) publicly declared:
>The problem is that Kermit is the ONLY protocol
>we're allowed to use as it is considered secure and extremely bug resillient.

Ooohhhh, THIS should be good!  Is there any particular reason the
Government believes Kermit to be "secure and extremely bug resillient"
where the other protocols aren't?  I'm especially curious about the
"secure" part...

I figure that probably back in the days when Kermit was the only game
in town some high mucky-muck cleared it for use.  Since then no one's
bothered to clear the newer protocols since "Kermit works just fine".

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From: slbfn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Here it is!   NeXT replicate Pointer Preference File.
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:21:52 MDT
Organization: Utah State University



Here is the UUencoded preference file for a NeXT replicate pointer.
So many people wanted this, that I told them I'd post it.  It's small.

Just UUdecode it and load the file with your pointer editor.  Then hit
"use" or "save".  Sorry there's not an icon with it.  Seemed like a waste
of time.  Tell me how you like it!  Enjoy...

-------------------snippy snippy snippy snappy------------------------------


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M```,`````"```'```/``1U)!0@````0`!0`$0D]$60```(``````````````C
M````````!^`'X`/`!$`#P`1``^`$(`#P!Q``0`2@````0```````````````.
M`````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
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end
size 208

-------------------snippy snippy snippy snappy------------------------------

Greetings,

	Travis Carter
	slbfn@cc.usu.edu
From: sbiddle@aviate.welly.gen.nz (Steve Biddle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Final Copy's 35 fonts?
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.9
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:49:30 +1200
Organization: Steves Amiga - Wellington, New Zealand.

In article <1992Sep9.160737.15429@city.cs>,
	lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>Are Final Copy's 35 included fonts the 35 Postscript Classic by
>any chance? If so, can they be used in PPage3 as well? Also can
>Soft-Logiks Soft Faces be used in anything other than Final Copy?

They are not true Adobe fonts, they are a variation, known as Nimbus Q,
and apparently have several advantages. You cannot use standard Type 1 or 3
fonts in Final Copy, and there are no other packages that support Nimbus Q
currently on the Amiga (there are several on the PC though, where the
format originated from)


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From: kkrebs@amilink.UUCP (Ken Krebs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Disk Doubler
Distribution: world
Reply-To: amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us (Ken Krebs)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:10:38 PST
Organization: Sacramento Amiga Computer Club - Sacramento, CA

In article <David_Corn.0cev@fcircus.sat.tx.us> David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us (David Corn) writes:
> 
> re:XPK
> 
> As of the last version I saw, 1.0, it could not compress, ON THE FLY,
> files saved to it - one had to manually compress the files.  Also, it
> didn't seem to save as much space as Imploder did.
> 
> For the short term, I'll stick with Imploder.
> 
> I want something that I put in WBStartup, and is automatic from there on
> out.  The Mac has it (Autodoubler) ... why can't we?
> 
> -- 
> David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us
> .. david corn ...

The latest version of the XPK release is v2.3.  XFH now has the ability to
auto compress files saved to your XFH device.  Kinda nifty!


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From: levi@cs.utk.edu (David Levi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: DNET
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:43:58 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

I have been trying out DNET the past week, and I have a few questions.
First, do you need fms.device in order to use dnet.device, and
where might I find this file.  It wasn't with the dnet distribution.
Second, how is the nfs-handler supposed to be installed, how do I get
it to work, etc.  It just seems to hang when I try to mount it and
access it (like cd'ing to it, or doing a dir on it).  Am I missing
something?  Is it not intended to be a file device like that?
Thanks for any help.

-Dave Levi  levi@cs.utk.edu
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From: rbm2273@ultb.isc.rit.edu (R.B. Mead )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Latex to Ascii conversion.
Date: 6 Sep 92 13:15:55 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: rbm2273@ultb

Your mail bounced.  Here is my reply:

In article <22180@galaxy.ucr.edu> you write:
>
>       Does anybody know of a good way to convert Latex documents to ascii?
>I am looking for a solution on just about any platform.  It can be a Unix
>based solution or MAC, Amiga  or even PC.  Does anyone have any idea how
>to do this??
>
>thanks.
>

Try dvi2tty.  It can be found at various ftp sites.  It is available
for many platforms (unix, amiga, etc).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: docbrown@eskimo.celestial.com (Dan Sanderson)
Subject: Re: SAS C 6.0
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 00:35:29 GMT

Question:  I bought my version of SAS/C 5.10(a or b, I forget) USED
(i.e. from another person) and he SAID he'd call or write to transfer
the registration, but I never heard from him again.  I was wondering if
I could still upgrade for the $100+ by sending in the original disks or
something.

BTW, I liked the way in the ad in AmigaWorld they made it look like a
whole new graphic operating system by showing snapshots of a configured
Workbench.... :)  Convinced me to change my WB font to Helvetica.
From: amiganer@lisa.cpr.sub.org (Christian-Peter Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Disk-Doubler for Amiga
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:24:45 GMT
Reply-To: amiganer@lisa.cpr.sub.org
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

Hi,
Because of the highly interest I'm posting 2 Readme files
of the XPK-Paket and the XFH-Handler. Both should be available
via anonymous FTP in amiga.physik.unizh.ch, where you can
reach the author of XPK as umueller@amiga.....

The XFH-Handler is from an other author see readme.

cu Christian

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: docbrown@eskimo.celestial.com (Dan Sanderson)
Subject: Re: ProWrite & the DeskJet (Was: ProWrite 3.3 Press Release)
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:47:32 GMT

Well wait a second.  _Is DJHelper worth buying or not?_

I usually don't have very much money to throw around, so I have to
consider these types of purchases carefully.  My problems are the "teeth
edges" (I now know what to call them :) and the slow graphics printing
(ProWrite), and I seem to get the idea that DJHelper would make it so
printing from ProWrite would make it as fast (or almost as fast) as
printing in text mode (or "draft" from ProWrite).

School reports are coming up soon, and I'd like to know if I could use
ProWrite for them.....
From: trat@amiganet.chi.il.us (Thomas Reamer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: The DeskJet
Date: 9 Sep 92 06:51:01 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

The SUPER_DJC printer driver by Creative Focus show's off every aspect of the
500C!!  Buy it, U won't be dissapointed!
From: z_morasma@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: New Amiga user's dumb questions
Date: 5 Sep 92 01:38:58 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

  Help, i just bought an amiga 500 from a friend, and i like it, but 
as an old IBM PC pro, everything is just a little bit different.

  I would like to hook the amiga up to an NFS server, can anyone give me a
company name and phone number, also what is a good comm program?  I have
seen several available, but need something simple for now.

  One last request, is there any good refernce material for the amiga, that 
you think would be good for a novice like me??


Mike Moras
z_morasma@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: DMCS 2.0
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:57:02 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

In article <1992Sep14.051758.3275@ultb.isc.rit.edu> tsm2124@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>	Reprinted by Permission from the 5-MINUTE Weekend New Network
>, a *StarShip*(tm) Production on GEnie(R).
>
>, a *StarShip*(tm) Production on GEnie(R).
>
>DMCS Upgrade!
>Another much heralded project was confirmed today at World of Commodore
>Show as well:  EA has officially announced an upgrade to DELUXE MUSIC
>CONSTRUCTION SET for the Amiga! Among other things, DMCS 2.0 will take
>advantage of the new hardware features of the Amiga 4000, will support
>ALL screen modes, and will include a freely distributable DMCS song
>player!  It does NOT look the same on the screen as the original DMCS.
>Availability is set for "early winter" -- hopefully by Christmas!
>
>END QUOTE
>
>	I wonder if they are referring to the DSP.......

   No they are not, since the A4000 does not have a DSP.  They are probably
merely referring to the ability of the program to use hi-res screens with more
than 16 colors.  How useful this would be for a music program, I don't know.

>				Todd Major

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From: James_Coulter@panam.wimsey.bc.ca (James Coulter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: flow charting for the Amiga?
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:03:49 PST
Organization: Commodore Computer Club / PaNorAmA

I'll be doing quite a few flow charts for my schooling this year(military
style ones mainly).  Therefor I was wondering if there are any such
programs for the Amiga.  Is there?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Subject: Radical Eye AmigaTeX
X-Disclaimer: All opinions expressed herein were sent to me telepathically
              by Elvis from Mars.
Reply-To: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Queens Univ., Kingston, Ontario, Can.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:40:26 GMT

What is the address for Radical Eye?
How much is AmigaTeX?  Is there a student discount?

Thank you,


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Subject: Re: dvips for use with PasTeX 1.3
Reply-To: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:07:49 GMT

In article <1595@eagle.ukc.ac.uk>, jpjt@ukc.ac.uk (J.P.J.Thomas) writes:
> In article <1992Sep5.073724.6033@ultb.isc.rit.edu> kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders ) writes:
> >

stuff deleted...

> 
> I'll try to upload it somewhere if people are interested, and I'd particularly
> like to hear any encouraging noises from George Hesseman.

PLEASE DO!

> 

stuff deleted...

> 
> 	- Julian
> --
> SNAR the Society for No Apparent Reason - You know it doesn't make sense!

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From: David_Corn@fcircus.sat.tx.us (David Corn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Disk Doubler
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:12:06 GMT
Organization: The Flying Circus BBS, San Antonio, TX
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.22 (Sep 08 1992)


>>Best compromiss is NUKE (does 600k/s decompress on a 030)
Still, Imploder is about as fast (who can tell on an A3000...) and
compresses more.

>>Well, Version 2.2 of the XPK-Package is already out,
What is the latest version I CAN get?  Where?  What FTP site?

>>Mac ? What is Mac ? A Screensaver-Machine.
No, actually it's a machine with a LOT of nice, neat, powerful, easy to
use utilities that one can simply toss in the system folder and forget
about.

DC

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From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: "Screen-choosing" Commodity?
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:07:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: contessa.mwm.1td1
Distribution: world
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52

In <52751@dime.cs.umass.edu>, barrett@gleep.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) wrote:
> 	I'm looking for a Commodity (or similar background program) that
> will pop-up a menu of all existing screens, let me choose one, and
> automatically activate that screen and bring it to the front.

How about one that lists all screens/windows, and lets you choose any
of them? Choosing a screen pops it to the top, choosing a window pops
that windows screen to the top, that window to the top of the screen,
and activates that window.

> 	Does such a program exist?  When I'm running 4 or more applications,
> screen-flipping by hand is boring.

As described above, there are several. Both called "switcher".  One
gives you short-cut commands via buttons in the switcerh window; the
other just brings up a 2.0 selection list. Look for middle-button
managers commodities, or bundles of 2.0 commodities. The second one is
a residentable program that expects to be stared from a commodity; the
first is part of a middle-mouse button manager, but tweaked to work on
a two-button mouse.

	<mike
From: robertk@taoami.lerctr.org (Robert Kesterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: dvips for use with PasTeX 1.3
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 7 Sep 92 12:08:36 CDT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <1992Sep5.073724.6033@ultb.isc.rit.edu> kxs5829@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.X. Saunders ) writes:
> 	Does anyone know where to find the Amiga port of dvips?  According
> to the documentation from PasTeX 1.3, it does exist.
>
[remainder of message deleted]

Is there a way to use PostScript fonts with PasTeX?  (Excuse me if this is
a stupid or FA Question.)

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From: jfoust@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (James C. Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: JRComm and Kermit
Date: 7 Sep 92 04:30:20 GMT
Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens

Hello All:

Hey, is there a way to make JRComm do KERMIT transfers?  I like JRComm,
but the only way I can do transfers from the VAX here is with Kermit.
I use handshake, but would like to just be able to use JRComm.
Know what I mean?

Jim

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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Disk Doubler
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:18:46 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <j9snsbr.fuzzy@netcom.com> by fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox):

> Why do people continue to talk about XPK as if it actually exists in
> some tangible form?  Every time I have tried to find XPK, I have come up

    Write to "umueller@amiga.physik.unizh.ch". As he has explained in
    comp.sys.amiga.misc, the reason it has been difficult to get
    recently is because a German magazine held the copyright over it.
    This expired on the 1st of September, and so XPK should now be
    available to all. I believe it's just a matter of Dominik getting
    around to uploading the latest version to amiga.physik.

> #ifdef TRUE         | Fuzzy Fox                  fuzzy@netcom.com
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