HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re:  Call for Submissions
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:52:39 GMT

In article <annie.03w2@canetoad.UUCP> annie@canetoad.UUCP (Annie) writes:

>Unlike some "publications" however, I presume they don't pay their writers.
>Too bad. I might have been motivated. Seems a problem with electronic
>pub's: Should they be free? Should they sell ad space? Can they pay for
>articles/fiction?

	Like most publications, Annie, I don't pay the writers.  CORE
doesn't have any source of funding, therefore it isn't able to pay
anyone.  (I'm assuming you aren't aware of the fact that commercial
traffic is still forbidden across the NFSnet backbone, which means
selling space would also be forbidden).  Literary magazines are
notoriously poor payers -- electronic or not.


>Or is this just a space to gain recognition, so that editors who work for
>hard-copy magazines can see your work and possibly offer payment to write
>something for their publications?

	As Robert mentioned, it is a fact that editors for paying
magazines read CORE.  I can personally guarantee this since I am an
editor for *several* paying publications.  One pays the writers, but
not the people who actually work on it.  Usually I ask people I've
published in CORE to submit to the paying journal.  But since CORE is
a waste of your valuable time, please don't.




	




-- 
Rita Marie Rouvalis              rita@eff.org 
Electronic Frontier Foundation   | And he spun himself right down 
155 Second Street                | into the ground. Now wasn't that 
Cambridge, MA 02141 617-864-0665 | lucky?  --Deadsy 
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From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d,rec.arts.poems,rec.arts.books,misc.writing
Subject: Re: Call for Submissions
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:03:59 GMT
Organization: Cornell Theory Center

In article <1dt5nqINNmnl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> megazone@realsoon.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23) writes:
>So, apparently core-request@eff.org doesn't exist.
>
>Is there another address to send submissions to?

Just mail them to rita@eff.org, there's a problem with the 'core-request'
alias right now.

mdw
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From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d,rec.arts.poems,misc.writing,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: POEM FROM "THE MISSION"
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:14:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Nov12.111402.11289
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <11NOV199222350531@jane.uh.edu> math1rb@jane.uh.edu (92F07486) writes:
>In article <BxL0E7.6zC@cs.dal.ca>, franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes...
>> 
>>Egads. I'm going insane. You see there's a fantastic poem from the movie
>>"THE MISSION", and I can't remember where I knew it from. I know I studied
>>or read it once, but I can't remember where. In any case, it's fantastic,
>>and I would love to find it again. Could anyone help me with this?
>>   In any case, I can only remember the ending:
>>faith,______, and _______
>>But of all these three, love is the greatest...
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>well these phrases are from the Bible, Corinthians I believe and are a common
>reading at weddings...

I Corinthians, Chapter 14, Verse 1333

	"And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; 
	but the greatest of these is charity."

>>or something remotely similar. Also, it has the phrase:
>>Love is not puffed up... 
>>   I know it's quite common, and most passionate, so if anyone could please
>>mail me with the answer, I"d be eternally grateful.
>> 
>>looking forward to your responses,
>>   steve
>>-- 
>**   David C. Meyers          **  "I'm looking California,            **
>
Kathleen O'Toole,
Bringer of Light


-- 
*************************************************************************
"Insufficient facts always invites danger, Captain."- Spock in Space Seed
	Marg Petersen	petersm@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
*************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d
From: rmr@annexia.esd.sgi.com (Robert Reimann)
Subject: Re:  Call for Submissions
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:36:49 GMT


annie@canetoad.UUCP writes:

geoff duncan writes:

>> Indeed: CORE is known for not having subject or genre restrictions...

> Unlike some "publications" however, I presume they don't pay their writers.
> Too bad. I might have been motivated. Seems a problem with electronic
> pub's: Should they be free? Should they sell ad space? Can they pay for
> articles/fiction?
> 
> Or is this just a space to gain recognition, so that editors who work for
> hard-copy magazines can see your work and possibly offer payment to write
> something for their publications?
> 
> I guess this free bit just sticks in my craw. I don't want a vanity
> publication that's either free or something I have to subsidize. My time
> is worth money.

Of course, there are many hardcopy literary
magazines (some well-respected ones even, though
the number is likely dwindling) that pay in 
complimentary copies only.

I can also personally attest to the fact that
editors of paying, hardcopy literary magazines 
do occasionally read the net, and might decide 
to publish you based on what they see.

Don't discount an investment in electronic pubs
out of hand; the exposure you get may indeed
pay off in the future.


			Robert.
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From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d,rec.arts.poems,misc.writing,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: POEM FROM "THE MISSION"
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:22:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <1992Nov12.111402.11289@leela.cs.orst.edu> petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen) writes:
>In article <11NOV199222350531@jane.uh.edu> math1rb@jane.uh.edu (92F07486) writes:
>>In article <BxL0E7.6zC@cs.dal.ca>, franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes...
>>> 
>>>Egads. I'm going insane. You see there's a fantastic poem from the movie
>>>"THE MISSION", and I can't remember where I knew it from. I know I studied
>>>or read it once, but I can't remember where. In any case, it's fantastic,
>>>and I would love to find it again. Could anyone help me with this?
>>>   In any case, I can only remember the ending:
>>>faith,______, and _______
>>>But of all these three, love is the greatest...
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>well these phrases are from the Bible, Corinthians I believe and are a common
>>reading at weddings...
>
>I Corinthians, Chapter 14, Verse 1333 (Ooops, Sorry. Should be Verse 13)
>
>	"And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three; 
>	but the greatest of these is charity."
>
>>>or something remotely similar. Also, it has the phrase:
>>>Love is not puffed up... 
>>>   I know it's quite common, and most passionate, so if anyone could please
>>>mail me with the answer, I"d be eternally grateful.
>>> 
>>>looking forward to your responses,
>>>   steve
>>>-- 
>>**   David C. Meyers          **  "I'm looking California,            **
>>
>Kathleen O'Toole,
>Bringer of Light
>
>
>-- 
>*************************************************************************
>"Insufficient facts always invites danger, Captain."- Spock in Space Seed
>	Marg Petersen	petersm@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
>*************************************************************************


-- 
*************************************************************************
"Insufficient facts always invites danger, Captain."- Spock in Space Seed
	Marg Petersen	petersm@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
*************************************************************************
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From: 900998j@ace.acadiau.ca (TREVOR JONES)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d,rec.arts.poems,misc.writing,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: POEM FROM "THE MISSION"
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:08:56 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <11NOV199222350531@jane.uh.edu> math1rb@jane.uh.edu (92F07486) writes:
>From: math1rb@jane.uh.edu (92F07486)
>Subject: Re: POEM FROM "THE MISSION"
>Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:35:00 GMT
>In article <BxL0E7.6zC@cs.dal.ca>, franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes...
>> 
>>Egads. I'm going insane. You see there's a fantastic poem from the movie
>>"THE MISSION", and I can't remember where I knew it from. I know I studied
>>or read it once, but I can't remember where. In any case, it's fantastic,
>>and I would love to find it again. Could anyone help me with this?
>>   In any case, I can only remember the ending:
>>faith,______, and _______
>>But of all these three, love is the greatest...
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>well these phrases are from the Bible, Corinthians I believe and are a common
>reading at weddings...

The phrases are found in First Corinthians Chapter 13 Verse 13.

>> 
>>or something remotely similar. Also, it has the phrase:
>>Love is not puffed up... 
>>   I know it's quite common, and most passionate, so if anyone could please
>>mail me with the answer, I"d be eternally grateful.
>> 
>>looking forward to your responses,
>>   steve
>>-- 
>>aasdSteveFranklin-Subliminal Psychology Major.ks;dlasBlueJaysRULEkasdfeahsdbfl
>>sd;lfaswoq[eBuyMeAQuadra!!!mbnZMXCNdfsba;KdSPAMiuroqiyetIBMSuxiweuryth'ewr;mxn
>>qpuepriuPartyOneqtuj;,n.,xnc,kjasFlameMeNot!;lkj;lkgkjd;askElvisLivesjhfquweru
>>zx.cfranklin@ug.cs.dal.ca,sk;t;lrut[Superboy@ac.dal.cav.zx,Physics!eq3rwkh;oHA
>************************************************************************
>**                            **                                      **
>**   David C. Meyers          **  "I'm looking California,            **
>**                            **    and feeling Minnesota..."         **
>**   MATH1RB@JETSON.UH.EDU    **                  - Cornell           **
>**                            **                                      **
>************************************************************************
>
>



     /                                                      \
O===|>>=============- 900998j@ace.acadiau.ca -=============<<|===O
     \                                                      /


Math and alcohol don't mix.
Don't Drink and Derive.
MADD.
(Mathematicians Against Drunk Deriving)
Newsgroups: alt.prose.d
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re:  Call for Submissions
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:34:51 GMT

annie@canetoad.UUCP writes:

> Unlike some "publications" however, I presume they don't pay their writers.
> Too bad. I might have been motivated. Seems a problem with electronic
> pub's: Should they be free? Should they sell ad space? Can they pay for
> articles/fiction?
> 
> Or is this just a space to gain recognition, so that editors who work for
> hard-copy magazines can see your work and possibly offer payment to write
> something for their publications?

It's rather both. I'm not into writing for the money, but I'm working on 
getting published right now. It's like being in a band, and playing club
shows, even if you lose money in the process. Sure, you'd like to be picked
up for a record deal, but isn't playing in front of an audience fun?

It's the same thing with writing on the net. 

mdw


Newsgroups: alt.prose
From: seaverw@columbia.dsu.edu (W. A. Seaver)
Newsgroups: alt.prose
Subject: A Stupid Thing
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:06:48 GMT
Organization: Dakota State University

[Johnny Carson discovered that Abraham Lincoln jokes and parodies never went 
over. I'll probably discover that, too.]
---------------------------------------

THE GETTYBERG ALL-TOWN KEGGER ADDRESS

    Four snores and seven beers ago, our brothers threw forth in 
this house a great party, perceived in libation and consuming in 
such proportions that all kegs were drained empty. Now we are 
engaged in a great hangover, testing whether that stomach, or any 
stomach so libibed and so consumed, can long endure. We are met on 
the cold floortile of that john. We have come to dedicate a portion 
of that john as a final resting place for those spirits that gave 
their lies that that stomach might drink. It is altogether relieving 
and necessary that we should do this. But, on second thought, we 
cannot desecrate--we cannot stain--we cannot ruin this tile. The 
brave men, wishing they were dead, who staggered here last night 
have ruined it far above our poor power to mop or scrub. The women 
will little care nor long remember what we said then, but they will 
never forgive what we did there. It is for us, the dying, rather to 
be dedicated to cleaning the unsightly mess which they who partied 
here have thus far so nobly advanced. It is rather for us to be here 
dedicated to that great task remaining before us--that from these 
humble drunks we take increased devotion to cleaning that mess for 
which they gave the last full measure of devotion; that we here 
highly resolve that these drunks shall not have drunk in vain; that 
this partyhouse, by god, shall have a new birth of freedom; and that 
parties of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not 
perish from the earth.
----
W.A. Seaver
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From: wsquires@lonestar.utsa.edu (William H. Squires)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: First Federation
Summary: ST:TOS
Keywords: Who are they?
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:27:05 GMT
Followup-To: First Federation
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Nov12.040117.11997@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Anestis Kozakis <Rez>) writes:
>
>I was reading the Graphic Novel "Debt Of Honour" when the name First
>Federation came up. I've heard the name somewhere before, but I can't
>quite remember where. I was wondering if someone could tell me who they
>are and what there purpose is/was and where they fit into the Startrek
>Universe. Much appreciated. Please reply by e-mail.
>Rez.
>--
>Anestis Kozakis
>rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au               ent670w@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au
>"Off days" are a part of life, I guess, whether you're a cartoonist, a
>neurosurgeon, or an air-traffic controller. -- Gary Larson.

  The First Federation was encountered by Kirk & Co. They have the ships that
look like atomic nuclei (remember that one!). The episode was "The Corbomite
Maneuver"; it is available on videotape should you wish to check it out (you
can get it in most well-stocked bookstores, record store, or video rental/sales
place). There hasn't been much interaction between them and UFP lately, though.
  Oh, well. Such is the nature of space travel (or something like that).
                                    wsquires@lonestar.utsa.edu
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
| Quote of the day: "Cap'n... There be whales here!!!" - Mr Scott - ST:IV  |
| The Voyage Home.                                                         |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: perdue4575@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Fiction Fanzine: SHIP'S LOG
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:39:25 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

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From: tarcil@trigger.ksu.ksu.edu (here and gone)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Repost Vigilante
Date: 7 Nov 1992 02:41:05 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: trigger.ksu.ksu.edu

I would like to know if more than the first 18 chapters of vigilantte were
printed....   I would like to be able to finish reading it
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: edd159psft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: When Deplomacy fails
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:26:51 GMT

Hi all
Does anyone know whats happened to the story "When Diplomacy Fails" I tried to
email the author Neale@mentor.cc.purdue.edu but it says that user doesn't
exist.

Any help{would be appricated.

Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Anestis Kozakis <Rez>)
Subject: First Federation
Summary: Who are the First Federation
Keywords: Who are they?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:01:17 GMT


I was reading the Graphic Novel "Debt Of Honour" when the name First
Federation came up. I've heard the name somewhere before, but I can't
quite remember where. I was wondering if someone could tell me who they
are and what there purpose is/was and where they fit into the Startrek
Universe. Much appreciated. Please reply by e-mail.
Rez.
-- 
Anestis Kozakis
rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au               ent670w@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au
"Off days" are a part of life, I guess, whether you're a cartoonist, a
neurosurgeon, or an air-traffic controller. -- Gary Larson.
From: urbanas@murr16.alleg.edu (Shawn Urbanavage)
Subject: Appreciation for this newsgroup
Keywords: Star Trek
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:54:23 GMT

This is for all of you Trekkies out there who have put up posts containing  
ST:TNG stories in alt.startrek.creative.  I am a newcomer to the Usenet,  
and as a Trekkie myself, was overjoyed to find a newsgroup that was about  
Star Trek.  I want to thank the authors of the recent Star Trek parody,  
the story involving a Star Trek/Beauty and the Beast crossover, and the  
two Leaptreks.  I enjoyed them all immensely, and if I ever have some time  
you may see one up there by me!  Thanks again.  Shawn
For correspondence: urbanas@alleg.edu
  
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: istn100@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: Appreciation for this newsgroup
Organization: Purdue University, Indianapolis
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:04:52 -0500

In article <1992Nov10.165423.18000@pellns.alleg.edu>, urbanas@murr16.alleg.edu (Shawn Urbanavage) writes:
> This is for all of you Trekkies out there who have put up posts containing  
> ST:TNG stories in alt.startrek.creative.  I am a newcomer to the Usenet,  
> and as a Trekkie myself, was overjoyed to find a newsgroup that was about  
> Star Trek.  I want to thank the authors of the recent Star Trek parody,  
> the story involving a Star Trek/Beauty and the Beast crossover, and the  
> two Leaptreks.  I enjoyed them all immensely, and if I ever have some time  
> you may see one up there by me!  Thanks again.  Shawn
> For correspondence: urbanas@alleg.edu

I would like to second this!  I've been on usenet only a month or two and this
group is terrific.  I've been happily reading all the stories I can find, and
passing some of them on to poor deprived friends who don't have usenet access
(alas).  The trek/Quantum leap crossovers were terrific; I enjoyed them all as
did my friends down the hall.  Shawn mentions a ST/Beauty and the Beast
crossover which I've not seen.  I'm a big B&tB fan and woul REALLY like to see
this story.  I've not yet managed to get anonymous FTP to work, so if someone
could send me the story, or repost it to the group I'd be extremely grateful. 
Thanks in advance!  Oh, my e-mail addrss is:
istn100@indyvax.iupui.edu

Ellen - the crime doctor
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: RD/ST crossover
From: s334147@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:51:58 GMT

Please please please please post the Red Dwarf/ST crossover!
I know a lot of people here in AUS who would love to see it.

Katharine Shade

Disclaimer: I'm a musician

Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: perdue4575@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: <None>
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:11:23 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa



For all of you interested in having your STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION fiction
published in a fanzine, you're welcome to send it my way. I'm the editor of
"Ship's Log: Supplemental" and am always accepting contributions to future
issues.

You can e-mail me at PERDUE4575@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU or send the material directly
to my home address: 412-2nd Ave. S.; Humboldt, IA  50548. Also welcome to call
me at my dorm: 319-273-4727 or home 515-332-1666.

Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you!

sincerely,

Tim Perdue

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 04:55:39 -0500 
From: Regan Merante <rm5a+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: TrekLeap Request
	<1d97r1INNdoi@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

Please forward any info to gtapolow@nyx.cs.du.edu

Thanks!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 18:45:48 EST
From: <LEN101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Repost Vigilante

The work on Vigilante IIIB is winding down.  It should be ready in
the next couple of weeks.  At that time I will repost All previous
chapters and of course the new one.  Untill then, since I have to
upload everything wich can tend to be a pain I won't repost.
I don't want every body to get tired of seeing The Vigilante floating
around here.  If somebody else reposts I wouldn't care I just don't
want to over stay My welcome.


Coming soon _The Vigilante IIIB_"The Warriors"
Coming Jan 93  _The Vigilante IV_ "Ring of Spears"  (hopefully)


Larry