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From: bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom)
Subject: Re: John Williams (LAC)
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: world, rec, usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:40:05 GMT

In <1jmhdjINN334@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.West.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:

>In article <1j6rvsINNgvs@news.aero.org> robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger) writes:
>>In article <1j6pkcINNnv4@smaug.West.Sun.COM> jimh@pongo.West.Sun.COM (jim hori) writes:
>>|And Vlade reportedly smokes 2 packs of Marlboros a day.
>>Are you bullshitting? Or have you actually heard this from a source
>>that you trust?

>Sorry, I couldn't respond sooner, mailer problems. I went to the game
>and some friends coincidentally were sitting next to me. They mentioned
>hearing a radio interview with Vlade where he talked about this. Also,
>some other fans near us were yelling "hey, Marlboro man" at him when
>he was called for a foul. None of this is evidence however. That is
>why I used the word "reportedly".

Actually, I don't think he`s bullshitting at all.  I remember reading in an
article somewhere (sorry, but I don't remember it offhand).  Anyways, it was
stating the differences between basketball here in America and basketball
overseas.  One was that all the players in the locker room overseas always
enjoyed a cigarette or two at halftime.  I also remember eating too, at 
halftime, but I'm not so sure.  I heard that that was one of the biggest
adjustments for Vlade (of course, learning the language was the biggest).
Hope this clarifies things up a bit.
From: cs161fir@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Barkley's big mouth
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:25:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1993Jan20.165451.22391@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>,
heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser) writes:
>Even a New York Post writer said the officials were lousy in the Knicks game.
>Then he said Charles should be suspended for 2 weeks.
>
>Go figure...

Now, the question is, how long should this writer be suspended for
insulting the officiating?  Maybe a fine is sufficient.  After all,
it's not like he jumped over the scorer's table.

Tony
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From: fls@econ.duke.edu (Forrest Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re:  Trivia question
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:11:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


>      Jerry Lucas was a good idea.  I stand corrected!  The ABL
> DID exist in 1962-63.  I don't know who the MVP was.
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Roger Kaiser?

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From: gt1490d@prism.gatech.EDU (Gintas Jazbutis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Charles Barkley's mouth
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:57:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology



A number of people have expressed respect for Charles Barkley in that
"at least he says what's on his mind," as if that's some kind of virtue.

Hey, everybody knows that being able to think before you speak
is the real virtue--just saying whatever pops into your mind
is immature.  And, as Charles shows so well, gets you into 
trouble.

Charles, though he is well over 20 years old, and is big physically,
often shows  behavior characteristic of spoiled children.  (Well, a
_lot_ of athletes do! Heck, a lot of people do.)

That's not to say that he doesn't say something interesting 
occasionally.


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From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Pacific division dominates
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:06:39 GMT

gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso) writes:
> It doen't matter what you do in the regular season, it matters how
> you do in the playoffs.  Even though the "weaker" Central Division
> has worse records, they have won the last 4 World Championships.

     The above ridiculous argument has surfaced
here before.

     "They" (the Central Division) didn't win
anything:  The Chicago Bulls did.  Divisions
don't win championships, individual teams do.

     You don't seem to have any concept of what
it means to be a strong division.  If you were
at a cross-country meet, you'd no doubt think
that if someone from team A came in first and
five people from team B come in second, third,
fourth, fifth, and sixth, team A should still
win the meet.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
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From: ortcm@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (thomas.mcguigan)
Subject: Re: Rodney Monroe?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 14:02:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.221045.9177@ncsu.edu> wbdavis@eos.ncsu.edu (WESLEY BOYD DAVIS) writes:
>	Rodney Monroe was cut by the Atlanta Hawks sometime ago and has
>signed on with the Fayetteville Fliers a CBA (?) team 


Fayetteville was in the GBA, before the GBA folded.

>	On a related note, his former teammate Chris Corchiani was
>cut by the Orlando Magic and also signed with the Fliers.

Corchiani signed just before the team folded up.  I don't even know if
Monroe and Corchiani got a chance to play together before it happened.

>I heard on
>an HTS broadcast of one of the Washington Bullets' games that he was
>given a 10day contract.... has anyone heard anything more about this?
>Will he and Guggs be teaming up any time soon?

In the last Bullets box score I saw, Corchiani was listed as getting a couple
of minutes palying time.  I don't know if Gugliotta was on the floor at the
time.  Corchiani was playing in the CBA (for Rapid City, I think) when the
Bullets called him up.

Tom@Orlando
From: rpm@bach.wag.caltech.edu (Richard P. Muller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Don McLean
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:47:27
Organization: Materials Simulations Center
NNTP-Posting-Host: bach.wag.caltech.edu


Is Don McLean (I'm probably spelling this wrong) getting any playing
time in the NBA? Last thing I heard he was on the Bullets.
--

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From: glosson@mdtf12.fnal.gov (Rich Glosson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Da Bulls
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:43:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: mdtf12.GLOSSON.93Jan25164346
	<1993Jan18.232638.14052@news.acns.nwu.edu> <957@ast.dsd.northrop.com>
	<C150En.M4C@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <1993Jan25.161251.7453@gw.wmich.edu>
Organization: Fermilab, Batavia, IL

In article <1993Jan25.161251.7453@gw.wmich.edu> x92lowry2@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> THE BULLS CAN'T PLAY AGAINST A TEAM THAT PLAYS DEFENSE.  THE TEAMS IN THE WEST
> DO NOT PLAY DEFENSE.  THIS IS WHY THEY HAVEN'T WON A CHAMPIONSHIP IN 4 YEARS.
> AND IF NEW YORK GETS TO THE FINALS THEY WILL NOT WIN THIS YEAR.
> WHEN MICHAEL JORDAN SCORES OVER 60 POINTS (ONLY 5 TIMES)  THE BULLS ARE 2-3
> TEAMS KNOW WHO GETS THE BALL AND WHO IS GOING TO SHOOT.

Good english.  Nice thought flow!

> I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT JORDAN WAS A SELFISH PLAYER THAT BAD MOUTHED THE PISTONS
> AND HIS TEAMATES ONLY BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONLY PEOPLE STANDING BETWEEN HIM
> AND THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP.  WHEN HE FINALLY GOT A SUPPORTING CAST AND THE
> PISTONS LOST SOME OF THEIRS IS WHEN HIS AIRNESS GOT A RING.
> HE IS THE GREATEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE.  BUT IN ORDER TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS
> YOU NEED THE GREATEST TEAM.
>                       =====

Quit whining.

> RIGHT THAT IS NOT DA BULLS.   THEY HAVE SLIPPED TEAMS HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO
> BEAT THEM.  IT HAPPENS.   DETROIT COULD NEVER BEAT BOSTON UNTIL THEY GOT THE
> RIGHT PLAYERS AND FIGURED OUT HOW TO BEAT THEM.  AND CHICAGO COULD NEVER BEAT
> DETROIT UNTIL THEY FIGURED OUT HOW TO BEAT AT THERE OWN GAME "DEFENSE".

More good english.  Easy to read.

> A PISTON FAN.
   ^
   Typical

> MICHAEL LOWRY
> WESTERN MICHIGAN UNIVERSITY
> (616)-387-0606

Have a great day!


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From: bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom)
Subject: Re: Lefty's who play right handed <was Re: left handed teams>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:39:04 GMT

In <timlin.727643973@spot.Colorado.EDU> timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin) writes:

>tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada) writes:

>>     This has gone on long enough.  The above are nice choices, but you
>>guys are overlooking some not-so-unknown names:  Bill Russell and Larry
>>Bird.  (Yeah Bird was a righty as a shooter, but he wrote left-handed
>>and was pretty ambidextrous as a player anyway.)

>So now we have:

> C:
>PF:
>SF: Bird
>SG: Gill
>PG:

>I've always been fascinated by people like this (also Andre Dawson in 
>baseball) because I am right handed, but only because my dad din't believe
>in left handedness.

>Add anyone you know about.

OK, I think that Augmon and Miner are lefties who play right handed, too, 
but I may be wrong.  If Bill Russell was a lefty, then insert him in the 
center spot.   :)   Also, I think Daugherty may be a lefty, but I'm not
quite so sure on that one.  While, my mind is turning, Kenny Anderson, I
think, is left-handed, does he play with his left?  I think he does, so
he wouldn't count.
From: veit@Unify.com (Veit Irtenkauf)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Sacramento defeats Golden State
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:57:44 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)

In article <1ji3qbINN5tf@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, carrie@wpi.WPI.EDU (Carrie A Ayers) writes:
> In article <1ji11sINNjf6@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu (Dale Harris) writes:
> >Eh?  Sacramento going downhill, not really, if you look close enough
> >you'll see that the Kings are playing the best basketball that they have
> >played in years.  No, Sacramento isn't going downhill they are just slowly
> >digging themselves out of a deep grave, (no the Celtics and the Lakers are
> 
> Digging themselves out of a deep grave?  That doesn't sound like much of an
> improvement to me.  Maybe that is one of the problems with the Kings, they
> think they have to dig to get out of a grave.  :)


Right -- digging to get out of the grave is not good at all.  But look
closer to the last games.  They played Knicks, Suns and Jazz (three
devision leaders) and could have won all of them.  This is a totally
new feeling here in Sacramento.  It seems that St.Jean's good work
pays off.  I don't expect the Kings to become a playoff team, but if
they follow their way, they might become a .500 team the next season.

Veit
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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: SLAM and 3-pt
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:25:36 GMT


On Press-Box (Prime Ticket Sports in LA), they listed the slam and 3-pt
contestants.  Unfortuantely, no writing utensil..

let's see waht I can remember

3 pt  .. M.Price, Craig Hodges, Dana Barros..  that's all I can remember.
I am afraid for Barros. He has been awfully cold lately.
I think 5 others. I do beleive Starks was one of them.

Slam Dunk
Ceballos, Kemp, Miner, David Benoit, Chris Jackson, and 2 others.

I am surprised that Augmon and L.Johnson weren't listed (hopefully I remember
right)


anyway, I think Miner will probably win. He or Kemp (if Kemp can put something
really nice together this year.. know he has the ability to)

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religious seminaries, many devoted to special religious beliefs ranging
from the unorthodox to the dotty, that we can hardly wonder at its
yielding a more bounteous harvest of gobbledygook than the rest of the
world put together.
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From: mbn@greyskul.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: BLAZER SEX SCANDAL
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:06:39 GMT
Reply-To: mbn@hfglobe.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Organization: Shorter Software Solutions

>>>>> "doc" == Doc Exby <exby@spot.Colorado.EDU> writes:

doc> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:

>The local news stations in Salt Lake City are reporting tonight that some 
>Portland Trailblazers have been connected with the sexual abuse of some 
>local teenage girls in their hotel during their recent stay here. They didnt 
>say which team members were involved, only that there is an investigation 
>going on.

doc> good night irene - you would think the blazers could pick a
doc> town with more nightlife and excitement that slc if they were
doc> gonna party!  ahh well.. at least they played well enough to
doc> beat the jazz on sunday.  hey thats right - Sunday night this happened?
doc> shouldn't all those girls have been in temple?  ;-)

The alleged activities took place Saturday night.  The allegations came
forward on Sunday after the girls were arrested for shoplifting.  No
charges were ever filed and the case has been dropped.
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(h) (503) 324-1831 (intel office) (503) 696-4860 (shorter) (503) 357-1010
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From: kstewart@ptdcs2.intel.com (Kent Stewart)
Subject: Re: SLAM and 3-pt
Organization: Intel Corporation -- Aloha, Oregon
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:21:59 GMT

>
>let's see waht I can remember
>
>3 pt  .. M.Price, Craig Hodges, Dana Barros..  that's all I can remember.


Chris Mullin will be a contestant also. He's having a pretty good season
for 3's, shooting around 45%.
From: mar3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL AARON RISKIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Basketball Spreads
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:26:16 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Would someone please enter the NBA point spreads because I am an addicted
gambler and I can not buy a paper until I get out of debt.  Thanks alot.
                                               Mike Riskin (GA)

Love is a sometimes thing, but a gambling addiction is forever.

                                               -Derf Bocchino
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From: x92lowry2@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Da Bulls
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:12:50 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <C150En.M4C@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (I Spike - Therefore I Am) writes					 ^^^^^^
> 
> hey, it's  PIPPEN!!!   


WHO?   SCOTTIE PIPPEN HAS TO BE THE MOST OVERATED PLAYER IN THE NBA!
LAST YEAR DURING THE PLAYOFFS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF GAME 6 IN THE FINALS.
THIS GUY DID NOT SHOW HIS "ALL-STAR" QUALITY.  LET ALONE "OLYMPIC" QUALITY
(THIS GUY HARDLY DESERVED TO BE ON THAT TEAM).  HIS NUMBERS WERE WAY DOWN
DURING THE PLAYOFFS.
THE BULLS CAN'T PLAY AGAINST A TEAM THAT PLAYS DEFENSE.  THE TEAMS IN THE WEST
DO NOT PLAY DEFENSE.  THIS IS WHY THEY HAVEN'T WON A CHAMPIONSHIP IN 4 YEARS.
AND IF NEW YORK GETS TO THE FINALS THEY WILL NOT WIN THIS YEAR.
WHEN MICHAEL JORDAN SCORES OVER 60 POINTS (ONLY 5 TIMES)  THE BULLS ARE 2-3
TEAMS KNOW WHO GETS THE BALL AND WHO IS GOING TO SHOOT.
I HAVE ALWAYS THOUGHT JORDAN WAS A SELFISH PLAYER THAT BAD MOUTHED THE PISTONS
AND HIS TEAMATES ONLY BECAUSE THEY WERE THE ONLY PEOPLE STANDING BETWEEN HIM
AND THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP.  WHEN HE FINALLY GOT A SUPPORTING CAST AND THE
PISTONS LOST SOME OF THEIRS IS WHEN HIS AIRNESS GOT A RING.
HE IS THE GREATEST PLAYER IN THE LEAGUE.  BUT IN ORDER TO WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS
YOU NEED THE GREATEST TEAM.
                      =====
RIGHT THAT IS NOT DA BULLS.   THEY HAVE SLIPPED TEAMS HAVE FIGURED OUT HOW TO
BEAT THEM.  IT HAPPENS.   DETROIT COULD NEVER BEAT BOSTON UNTIL THEY GOT THE
RIGHT PLAYERS AND FIGURED OUT HOW TO BEAT THEM.  AND CHICAGO COULD NEVER BEAT
DETROIT UNTIL THEY FIGURED OUT HOW TO BEAT AT THERE OWN GAME "DEFENSE".

PREDICTION:  NEW YORK  OVER  UTAH.   (STOCKTON SUCKS)  

A PISTON FAN.
MICHAEL LOWRY
WESTERN MICHIGAN UNIVERSITY
(616)-387-0606

                         
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From: wgr@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: SLAM and 3-pt
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:07:24 GMT

In article <C180tM.L5K@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>In today's USA Today, the three-point shooters are Drazen Petrovic, Mark
>>Price, Chris Mullin, Dana Barros, Craig Hodges, Kenny Smith, Dennis
>>Scott, and BJ Armstrong.
>
>	Surprising they didn't invite Michael Adams (the most prolific
>	bomber in NBA history) or Trent Tucker (Hodges' successor in
>	Chicago).  Kenny Smith and BJ Armstrong?

Kenny and BJ are both among this season's leaders in 3-point field goal
percentage, but neither of them has attempted many.  By competing in the
3-point contest, Smith will have the distinction of being in both that
contest and the slam dunk competition.  Michael Jordan has been in both
(although I'm sure he'd just as soon people forget his 3-point fiasco).
Have any other players been in both contests?

>	It ought to be interesting what team uniform Hodges will wear.
>	Maybe he'll shoot 'em in a T-shirt.

If I had to guess, I'd say Craig will wear a Malcolm X T-shirt.
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From: bewillia@newstand.syr.edu (Brad "Boomer" Williams)
Subject: Re: Ben's Trivia
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 23:58:54 EST

In article <C19w5n.G8v@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
|> goedde@math.ohio-state.edu (Chris Goedde) writes:
|> >How about Sedale Threatt?  Somehow I don't think he stuffed Sir
|> >Charles three times in one game.  Did Cliff Robinson (the elder) play
|> >with the Sixers?
|> 
|> 	Cliff Robinson (the elder) played w/ the Sixers a couple of seasons
|> 	before bolting off to Europe.
|> 
|> 	Now there's something I don't understand.  The guy is only in his
|> 	early 30s and he can still put the ball in the hoop.  Won't anyone
|> 	give him another chance?

	As I remember it, he had some 'attitude problems' that made him a persona non-grata in both Washington and Philly.  Yes, he could put the ball in the hoop. Problem was, that was all he wanted to do - shoot, shoot, shoot.
	All that in mind, I seem to remember the Lakers signing him for a spell either last year or the year before, giving him very limited minutes.
	I think that he could play a role for a contending team - something along
the lines of a Vinnie Johnson, or perhaps even a Ron Anderson.  Problem is, he'd have to accept a role, something he hasn't been able to do in the past.
 
|> 
|> 	Jazzy J
|> 
|> -- 
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|> |   Jazzy J               jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu         U-Illinois/Urbana |
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From: creasman@cheshire.oxy.edu (Scott Michael Creasman)
Subject: Re: Ben's Trivia
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:48:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.083658.26615@muddcs.claremont.edu> byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau) writes:
>alright folks, I just thought I'd try.. I don't think these are too hard.
>
>
>#1:
>What were the circumstances surrounding this quote (parts left out so as not
>to make it too obvious):
>
>Terry Kofler: "I'll have to say that ....team, they showed remarkable unity...
>To a man, they stood there naked from the waist down and scratched in unison."
>-----------------------------------------------------------------

On UNLV after losing to Duke in the NCAA championship game?

>
>#2
>Who is said to have blocked three Charles Barkley-ferocious-in-your-face
>dunks in one game?
>---------------------------------------------------------------------

Chris Webber.

>#3:
>Who was the first ABA player to jump to the NBA?
>What memorable event did he cause in 1968, about 8 years ahead of its time?
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------

How about Connie Hawkins?  Maybe, the advent of the finger roll?
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From: koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann)
Subject: Re: Barkley's big mouth
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Reply-To: koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann)
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:28:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.193633.21541@oakhill.sps.mot.com> floydg@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Floyd Goodrich) writes:
>
>The refs might not have seen it.  Remember they called a foul on the play, but
>the foul was on another Celtic (Sichting?) and not on Parish.  If they
>didn't see him do it, that explains why no T & no ejection.  He WAS later fined
>and suspended for that incident.  Even though Laimbeer, who is a thug,
>deserved it.  :-)

OK, I was wrong about the Parish/Laimbeer thing.  Didn't Barkley
pnuch Lambeer a couple seasons ago too?  And I'm pretty sure he didn't
get suspended for that one (although I'd imagine he got ejected).
Still, fighting players seems a little bit worse than arguing with a
ref - even if you trip over the scorers table on your way.  But, then
again this incident was against Laimbeer as well.   Maybe incidents
involving Laimbeer shouldn't be counted.

Barkley pretty much sealed his fate when he made the claim "you can't
influence me with money" - Well then Charles, how 'bout a game
suspension.  Barkley also lost a day's pay.  But, he saved 12K on the
money deferred to sign Ainge - talk about breaks.
--
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