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From: David_Schwartz@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:01:38 PST
Subject: Re: Duo in stereo?

Jonathan_Rochkind@laison.w8hd.org responds:
  
>   Does anyone know if either of the duos support stereo sound in and/or out
>   (when in a duo dock, of course. I know there are no sound jacks on the
>   straight duo)? 
>   
>   I read something here which said they did not, and no third party device
>   could make them do it, because the duo itself lacked all ability to
support
>   stereo sound. But then I saw an ad i MacUser (have to find the ad again to
>   see what product specifically) for a third party duo dock designed for
>   presentations, which, according to the add, included stereo in and out
>   jacks. Does anyone who has a duo know for sure?
 
 
The Duos are Monophonic Macintoshes. The E-Machines "Presenter" dock has dual
mono output when used with a stereo mini-jack.
  
 david schwartz
 Planet BMUG

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: zimmy@lyapunov.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael Zimmerman)
Subject: Re: YES THE IIVXcd WILL DRIVE THE 16" MONITOR!!!!!!!
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:49:01 GMT

In article <ibhan.726773404@husc.harvard.edu> ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) writes:
>zimmy@kalman.eng.ohio-state.edu (Michael Zimmerman) writes:
>
>>I thought the IIvx was "advertised" to drive a 16" at 16bits with additional
>>VRAM added after initial purchase.  You are saying this is not true?!??!
>
>No offense, but you thought wrong.  Apple's ad doesn't say so, certainly. 
>Perhaps you're thinking of the DuoDock?  

Yup, stupid (wishful) me.

Mike



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: choi@gsbsrc.uchicago.edu (Dongseok Choi)
Subject: Which one is better : Futura SX vs PrecisionColor 24xp?
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:19:37 GMT

Hello, netters?
 I saw a post a while ago which compared the above video cards.
 At that time, I have no interests in video card.

 Now, I am considering buy one.
 I have MacIIsi + Nubus adaper + NEC 3FGx.

 Can these cards run my monitor at higher resolution than 640x480?
 (800x600 or 832x624 would be good enough.)
 Do they have an adapter for SVGA monitors in the package?
 If so, which one gives me better features?

Thank you in advance,

Choi
choi@gsbsrc.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo)
Subject: Re: More memory = lousy performance in IIci. Help.
Organization: Exxon Research and Engineering, NJ
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:13:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.153538.5022@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> csmith@blackplague.gmu.edu (Blackplague) writes:
>In article <726249086@juliet.cs.duke.edu>  writes:
>> I have recently replaced the memory in my IIci with 8 meg (4 x 2) 80 ns in
>> Bank A and performance has gone to pot.  Screen rewrite, window operations
>> and even entering text is much slower.  Performance on AfterDark screen
>
>The problem is this.  The Mac IIc1 uses the first bank of memory for video, so  
>there is a constant conflict between the internal video and the processor over  
>use of the ram in your system.  You have two choices to fix this.  
>
>1) Put the 256k simms that were in Bank A back and put the 2meg simms in bank  
>B. Under this configuration, the first bank is reserved for the internal video  
>and the processor uses the second bank.  This is only true if the first bank  
>has ONLY 4 x 256k simms installed.
>
>2)  Get a nubus video card.  Then the first and second bank will be usable by  
>the processor.

There is another step that should help.

3) Install a ram cache card.  This would help reduce internal video/CPU 
memor access conflicts.

Marcelino Bernardo
mbernar@erenj.com
From: murray@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Murray Karstadt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: dead floppy on Mac IIci - HELP!!
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:13:27 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hello out in netland,


      I have a  Mac IIci with a dead floppy. When I put a floppy into the drive
it never mounts on the desktop. I've tried several different disks with no
luck. I'm a hardware rookie(read as klutz:), but I'll try and fix the problem
anyway. Any suggestions as what I should try?


thanks in advance for any help

murray

murray@andromeda.ruthers.edu
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From: em31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Andrew Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Duo 230 Display & HD Qs
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:39:39 GMT
Organization: Senior, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I just got my Duo 230 yesterday and have a few questions about the display.

I've read posts that mention backgrounds that do a better job of
preventing the cursor from disappearing, etc.  Which backgrounds are
these?

Also, on my display, if there is a window on the screen the part of the
screen above it and somewhat to the sides is darker.  This is fairly
distracting.  Others have mentioned brightness and contrast settings
that are ideal, I haven't found the right ones yet.  Are these darker
patches and the resulting lines through my display normal? or is there a
problem?

In a non-display question, why is my 120MB harddrive less than 110MB, is
this normal and should I reformat it?

--Eric
From: mskoglund@macalstr.edu (Mike Skoglund)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: How much for used IIsi?
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:46:04 GMT
Organization: Uncle Grendel's House of Sin
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A596222B44016522@dialup-slip-1-34.gw.umn.edu>
X-Xxdate: Sun, 12 Jan 92 16:49:47 GMT
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Here's the deal: I have a Macintosh 17/80 IIsi with a DayStar FastCache
[64k static RAM cache + 25MHz FPU], the good ol' Apple 13" RGB, an
Apple keyboard, and a CoStar Stingray trackball. The IIsi is right around 
two years old [no warranty] but has a brand new power supply.

How much could I get for the entire system? Would anyone be willing to
'make an offer I can't refuse'?

Keep in mind that the SIMM's and the DayStar card are both less than a
year old [July and August '92], and would cost at *least* $700 if you 
purchased them today....

E-mail reasonable responses to me, please.

Mike Skoglund

mskoglund@macalstr.edu
or
612.690.7570
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: smisra@eos.ncsu.edu (SAURABH MISRA)
Subject: IIsi Unconsistency?  Explain Please.
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:29:25 GMT

Try this at home:

Set disk cache to 32K and restart.  Use Speedometer and see
what the disk drive performance rating is.  Probably over 2.0.

Now set disk cache to 784K and restart.  Repeat performance
ratings test.  As expected CPU and Video ratings improve dramatically.
But look at the disk drive rating.  Mine was down to 0.5!!! 
I repeated this several times, and got the same consistent results!!

Now what is going on?  Why does the disk performance go down so
much when you increase the cache ??????

Saurabh

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ygor@3d2c.jhuapl.edu (Daniel E. White  (F2C))
Subject: Re: Apple Announces StyleWriter II
Organization: Johns Hopkins U. Applied Physics Lab
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:06:59 GMT

Questions:

    Will the "Greyscale" software work on the original StyleWriter and
        if so, is it available separately ?


    Is there an upgrade path available to us owners of the original ?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Apps crash in first 16MB RAM, not in last 4 MB?
From: zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu (Gregory Talmo)
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:36:33 -0600
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
Organization: Winona State Academic Computing

In article <1i2r2gINN62u@mirror.digex.com>, og@access.digex.com (Gary
Goldberg) wrote:
> 
> Thanks in advance for help. I have a 20MB IIcx running System 7.1
> Mode32, etc. There are (4) 4x8 70ns SIMMs installed in Bank A,
> and (4) 1x8 80 ns SIMMs in Bank B. I have 32bit addressing
> turned ON, and virtual memory turned OFF.
> 
> Some of my applications (notably VersaTerm Pro 3.5) will crash the
> machine with a bus error if I launch them directly (nothing else but
> Finder in memory.) But if I launch a program that takes 16MB first,
> then run VersaTerm, it works fine.
> 
> (I know I should upgrade VersaTerm Pro to latest version. It may be
> that I need to, to fix this problem. Is there any reason why the first
> 16MB should be different then the 4MB that follow?) - Gary
> 

  Gary,
  Stupid question, but are you sure they are in banks "A" & "B" as you say?
 Because what you're describing sounds like memory in the wrong bank.  Tyr
exchanging the SIMMS from A to B and vice versa and see what happens.  
  BTW is VersaTerm "32 Bit Clean?"

- Greg Talmo  (zaphod@vax2.winona.msus.edu)
                                  |The opinions expressed above are my own,
"A censor is a man who knows more |and do not necessarily reflect the
than he thinks you ought to."     |opinions, tastes, or policies of Winona
                - Granville Hicks |State University, its faculty, staff or
                                  |students.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: s442070@nexus.yorku.ca (Tomas Hansson)
Subject: Re: DeskWriter drivers
Organization: York University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:12:43 GMT

aralston@hermes.ece.wisc.edu (Andy Ralston) writes:

>Hi.  I recently (naively) upgraded the drivers for my DeskWriter from 2.X to 
>3.0.  3.0 is great in that it supports spooling, but they screwed up the 
>envelope printing!  Needless to say, I trashed the old drivers before 
>discovering this.  Does anyone know where a set of 2.x drivers might be 
>archived?  Thanks in advance.  Please e-mail responses, as I don't get to
>usenet very often.

The driver 3.0 was never ment to be used. I believe HP instantly
made an upgrade to version 3.1 and this is the version that should be
used. I've been using for the last couple of months without any problems.
Either contact HP directly or check out sumex-aim where I believe
3.1 should be located.





                                Tomas Hansson
				InfoDesign Corporation
				tomas@idc.com or s442070@nexus.yorku.ca
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kkalan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kenneth Kalan)
Subject: Mac backup
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:59:55 GMT

I'm looking for ways to backup user hard disks (mostly 40 meg) which people 
would actually use.
Floppies are a little inconvient and the folks here tend not to back up.  We 
have a 9 track tape
drive connected to our sun, but people tend to stay away from using it to back 
up their macs.

My thoughts were to look into a 155 TEAC tape, but do not wish to purchase 10 
- 15 of them.  Our
mac network is LocalTalk, so I do not know how well this would work for 
network backups.
Also because of a security problem with unauthorized users, I'm leary about 
leaving the machines on
and doing an unattended backup over the weekend.  (Someone is playing with them 
over the weekends)

Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks



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From: Eric.Choi@p5.f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PowerBook Memory
Date: 8 Jan 93 05:16:59 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175.5 - Association M, Grand Blanc MI


  
  da> Does anyone have anything good or bad to say about LLB?  They have the
  da> best price of all the places I called (based on ads in MacUser and
  da> MacWorld), plus the longest warranty.
  da> 
  da> --
  da> -------------------------------------------------------------------
  da> Daryl_Spitzer@mindlink.bc.ca     "Life isn't just, life just is."
  da> a2251@mindlink.bc.ca              -- Me  (I think.)
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  da> --- Squish v1.01
  da>  * Origin: zeus.ieee.org * [140.98.1.1]  (1:107/10)

With the recent so-called ruling against the Korean chip manufacturers, almost
everyone jumped on the bandwagon and no longer posting their SIMM prices
except
LLB.

I have ordered 2-meg SIMMs from them a few months back. They arrived on time.
There is no installation guide or video tape like MacConnection has. It was
easy for I to put them in a IIci, but may be a problem for the compact Mac or
powerbook if you are new with it.

Warranty is a funny thing to me. I can see one or two years like MacConnection
has. But have to chuckle at those life-time warranty, especially promoted by
companies as new as one year old in existence.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: alfa@b23a.b23a.ingr.com (Laura Walker)
Subject: Advice Wanted
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:59:29 GMT

I want a home computer that'll pay for itself.  In a former life
I was a document designer and graphic artist.  I know a Mac is
my best bet - with Quark or PageMaker plus Illustrator & some
others.

The advice I'd like:
	list of general home-use/personal applications (e.g., Quicken)
	that you recommend (with price info if possible).

	minimum recommended configuration and suggestions on how to
	find the least expensive buy I can.

Recently, I research leasing/financing but I'm reluctant to get
into long-term arrangements.  

Thanks in advance.


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From: Leonard.Short@macrocosm.omahug.org (Leonard Short)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Strange Hard drive!  Even APS t
Date: 03 Jan 93 09:13:50 CST
Reply-To: leonard.short@macrocosm.omahug.org
Organization: The MacRocosm BBS, Lawrence, KS
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

    If you are using a drive from APS that is 2.5 years old it is formatted
with a partitioning setup that is not the same as the currant partition type in
 use. I had an APS pro40 Quantum myself(Formated with APS powertools 1.13). If
you just replace the driver without reformating the drive may not work
properly. It is necessary to backup the drive and completely reformat it using
the new APS Power Tools setup.
     I was also having problems with Syquest compatibily during boot up. The
new APS driver requires that only 1 Syquest mounting INIT be insatlled in the
system folder and that, if it is SCSI probes latest version it be set not to
close the driver after unmounting the cart. In APS's latest driver one driver
operates all the drives in use and if it is closed the system crashes.
     I have also had trouble with the Hewlett Packard background INIT included
in the 3.1 and other new HP print drivers. At times the HP background makes an
incorrect bus call. The only solutions I have found for this are 1) disable the
HP background INIT (loosing background printing) 2) physically shutting off the
power to the computer and turning it back on ( this will take care of the
problem sometimes for a long period). HP has not returned my calls about the
background INIT.
From: zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Don't turn off your computer for the day, how about a monitor?
Date: 7 Jan 93 01:30:41 GMT
Reply-To: zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

While most agree that it's better to have a computer running all day long instead of booting up everytime you have to use, I wonder should we turn off the monitor if we don't use the computer for a few hours.

What I do now is 1) have AfterDark to take care of the screen; 2) dim the monitor to near-black-out level.
But to save more electricity, isn't it better to turn off the monitor. Is there any wear and tear when turning on and off a monitor
From: bohus@math.rutgers.edu (Geza Bohus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Connecting a color monitor to a SE30: need help
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:54:28 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I have a Lapis ProColorserver in my SE/30 for 16 inch monitors, 24bit
color. You can use it at 640x480, 832x624 (both up to 24 bits) and at
1024x768 at 16 bits of color. You have to restart if you want to
change resolutions. The monitor is a Sony 1604S. I am very pleased
with the setup. The manuals were OK, although they seem to have
covered their earlier models. (I got the card the week it came out --
they might not have had the manuals finished.) I was too lazy to call
them, they might have new ones by now.

Someone mentiones in an earlier post that the init-icons don't show up
on his/her monitor. On mine they do. Hope this helps.


g
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:25563 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:35217
From: npchen@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Nien-Po Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: small LCD (like Watchman) connected to Mac or PC?
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:27:17 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

Hi netters,

I am not sure if this is a right group to ask.  If not, sorry about this.

My lab needs a small LCD as a mask for some optic experiments.  The pattern on
it should be controlled by a personal computer like a Mac or a PC.

My first thought is:
1) a commercial product for this purpose -- anybody has the company's info?

2) re-configer a cheap consumer electronic black-&-white Watchman or something
   like that and connect it to the personal computer.  Is there a way to have
   it emulate a computer display?
3) any other idea?

Thank you for your time.
Chen, Nien-Po		npchen@physics.purdue.edu
Jan. 8, 1993

P.S.	Replying to my e-mail address is preferred.
From: dross@cambizola.cs.wisc.edu (Dan Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Classic II databus
Keywords: 32-bit
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:02:14 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

In <1993Jan12.123659.24096@kub.nl> stephan@kub.nl (Stephan Raaijmakers) writes:

>I just bought a Classic II; the accompanying
>documentation says that the machine has 
>a 32-bit databus; now and again I saw postings
>to this group mentioning a 16-bit bus.
>
>Can someone shed some light on this?

I don't have the little Classic II-specific booklet that Apple shipped
with mine right handy, but I think these are the details from it:

- 68030 CPU has 32-bit datapath internally 
- machine has 32-bit datapath to ROM
- machine has 16-bit datapath to RAM

I don't know if the 32-bit datapath to ROM includes the on-board
"ROM/FPU connector" to which a 68882 FPU (on a special little board) can
be connected.  (Yes, it can take an FPU; my Classic II has one and
Gestalt knows it's there and SANE and Excel use it.)

In terms of the machine's "bus", I guess it's different widths
in different places:  32 bits wide exiting the CPU (since it's
a plain ol' 68030, unlike the Intel 80386 vs. 80386SX) and accessing
the ROM, but cut-down to 16 after the addressing hardware 
which goes to the RAM.

Any hardware engineers willing to elucidate?

Dan
From: temple@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Looking for good read/write optical drive
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:51:01 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1ifb96INNje3@alnitak.usc.edu>, jangus@alnitak.usc.edu (Jim Angus) writes:
> I'm looking to purchase an economical mass storage device for my Mac.  It
> seems that optical drives provide the lowest cost per megabyte for removable
> media.  Anyone out there had any good/bad experiences with them?
> 
> I've seen the Infinity 3.5 and the Arias drives (both cost about $1500).
> 
> Jim


I have seen the La Cie Cirrus 128 Meg Optical for $1100, with 38 ms access.
I am certainty it is very reliable, though it certainly isn't one of 
the fastest.  I have flirting with the idea of buying one.

Jon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: shahn@hstbme.mit.edu (Sam Hahn)
Subject: questions about PB duo's
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 11:11:54 EST
Organization: HST
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware

I have a Duo 230 and I have two questions that I hope someone can answer:

1) where can I buy a mini-dock or its equivalent: I am in search of a CHEAP
device to give me floppy and scsi ports. Where have people been getting
their docks?

2) what does the battery switch do? the switch is not documented anywhere
as far as I can tell. what position should I leave it in?

Thanks

Sam Hahn
shahn@hstbme.mit.edu
From: mark@bilpin.co.uk (Mark Allerton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: YES THE IIVXcd WILL DRIVE THE 16" MONITOR!!!!!!! NOT!!!
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:03:24 GMT
     <1993Jan11.154053.4136@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: UK Mac DTS/SRL Data
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <1993Jan11.154053.4136@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> Michael
Zimmerman, zimmy@kalman.eng.ohio-state.edu writes:
>I thought the IIvx was "advertised" to drive a 16" at 16bits with
additional
>VRAM added after initial purchase.  You are saying this is not true?!??!
>
>Mike

No, it's not true. It seems to be a *very* popular misconception,
but I've not seen any Apple literature that claims the IIvx can
drive a 16" monitor using it's built-in video. The IIvx uses a 
video chip that's a derivative of the one in the LC and LCII, 
and the highest resolution it will do is 640 x 480. Same with the
IIvi, naturally.

Take a look at the October 1992 Compatibility Chart, or the book
Apple Facts 10/92, if you have access to those.

Mark Allerton
SRL Data, but I speak for myself.