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From: srodawa@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Ron Srodawa)
Subject: Re: header/include files when compling C-Kermit
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:12:48 GMT

In article <1ar67iINNt08@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> brettw@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Brett D. Watson) writes:
>  I have trouble with "file.h" and "time.h" when trying to compile
>Kermit.  I picked it up from Anomoly.  I get over 100 errors and the

The easiest solution is to pick up the kermit binaries for xenix from the
archive at unix.oakland.edu.  Ron.

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From: michaelb@wshb.csms.com ( WSHB Operations Eng)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Booting trick (Was - xnx252b: Adaptec High Performance Driver woes)
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:53:22 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Organization: WSHB, Herald Broadcasting Syn., Inc., Cypress Creek, SC, USA

>
>It boots the system normally, and claims to have mounted /u, but that's when
>everything stops - I have no idea why.
>

Just a little trick that may help, put 'set -x' as the first line in
/etc/rc and you will get lots of help figuring out where things die during
booting. Often I have chased things for several hours trying to figure out
exactly what was blowing up when a machine failed to boot. This one thing 
has save me countless hours because I can now tell exactly where things 
fall down. I'd like to give credit to whomever it was that gave it to me, 
but I don't remember now.

Michael
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From: khioe@gina.jpl.nasa.gov (Kent Hioe)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Help needed to solve Zoltrix 9600 modem with Xenix OS ?
Keywords: Zoltrix 9600 modem & Xenix.
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:07:47 GMT
Followup-To: khioe@juno.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: jpl




Hi, I need help from Zoltrix modem users.
I am having problem with Zoltrix 9600 modem on Xenix OS.
Whenever there is an incoming call, Zoltrix never answer the call even though  
the AA light is blinking. (the modem is set to 2 rings before answering the 
call). It works fine if I connected the modem to the PC running DOS with 
BITCOM software.
 
Could any body please help me to solve the problem ? 
  
I need to solve this problem soon. 
   
    
Thank you. 
     
      
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: billmcc@seanews.akita.com (Bill McCormick)
Subject: Re: tape driver to work with Colorado 120
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News & Mail
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:28:25 GMT

In article <grendel.718899700@cygnus.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> grendel@cis.ksu.edu (Stephen Spencer) writes:
>Hmmm... well, I bought a Colorado 120 tape drive about a year and a half ago
>and am beginning to question the wisdom in that move.  I am preety much duping
>msdos for developing program development skills, but for some reason cannot
>get any sort of Xenix configuration to operate the drive.  I have contacted 
>Colorado about this.  Of course, their answer costs about $200! <ack!>  I
>understand the problem with the software driven drive selector and am 
>wondering if anyone knows of a software or hardware patch that would allow me
>to fix this problem.  I have no funds to buy the Colorado driver, so I am
>open to even the wildest suggestions :)  Thanks in advance!

$200?

I bought the $99 CMS Unix/Xenix support package and was really impressed.  Not
only do they provide a standard driver (i.e. /dev/jrjt0) for tar, cpio, etc.,
they also provide QIC-compatible backup/restore software.

It makes it incredibly simple to transfer stuff between operating systems,
make compatible backups, etc.

Definitely worth the money -- and you should be able to find it at a
discount.

Bill
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.unix.shell,comp.mail.misc
From: mallon@hsi.com (Dan Mallon-Kraft)
Subject: Cpio and Linked Files
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:52:22 GMT


Thanks to the help of this group, I was able to figure out how to span
volumes with cpio a few months ago.  Since then, I have run into a small
problem with linked files.  I have a file that has links to 8 other
filenames.  When I back up with cpio, all 9 filenames make it to the tape,
but each file is copied out to the tape.  That means that if the file
is 24 Meg, 9 x 24 Meg worth of data gets written out to the tape.  I've
looked at the man page and seen the -l option (which is supposed to only
be used under cpio -p).  It doesn't make a difference if I use the -l
option when writing to the tape, but if I'm restoring, and I don't
specify -l, the files aren't linked together when they come down.

Basically, can I prevent all ~216 Meg from being written to the tape?
Has anyone else found this to be a problem?

Using SCO Xenix 2.3.3 with sls155xnx installed (I believe that's the number).

Thanks,
Dan 
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From: bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey CDP)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Re: slow parallel printers
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:48:13 GMT
Reply-To: bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey CDP )
Organization: CCS Enterprises, Inc. - Easton, MD

In article <1992Oct13.26@netcom.com> wstreet@netcom.com (William Street) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.022208.11565@ceadg> jack@ceadg.UUCP () writes:
>>We are trying to connect two parallel printer up to a XENIX 2.3.4 box.
>>The first printer prints fine ie. at a speed that would be expected.
>>The second printer prints extremely slow no matter what the first printer
>
>Yes this is a common problem with 2.3.4 (also earlier).  I have tried
>the polling option as well and found that it results in no improvement
>in print speed.
>If anyone has an answer, I'd be interested also.  My solution has been
>change to a serial printer and drive off a serial port.

We have had similar problems.
Sometimes changing the parallel port board would improve the situation,
sometimes not...
We have also switched things to serial, BUT if you are using
a laser printer and doing graphics (like WordPerfect graphics, or
faxes-TruFax) the time to get printing done will not be acceptable.

There is a drastic difference between the printing speed with graphics
on a parallel port -vs- a serial port.  We have one now that takes about
6 minutes or so to print a full page graphics (incoming fax image).
It works on the serial port, BUT.

As far as the parallel port problem, it appears that some of the
parallel boards are inferior in design and basically designed for 
DOS where the interrupt is not even used.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: jack@ceadg
Subject: slow parallel printers
Reply-To: jack@ceadg.UUCP ()
Organization: Computer Engineering Associates, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:22:08 GMT

We are trying to connect two parallel printer up to a XENIX 2.3.4 box.
The first printer is on int5 and the second is on lpt7.
The first printer prints fine ie. at a speed that would be expected.
The second printer prints extremely slow no matter what the first printer
is doing. SCO support has benn of little help saying that a wide variety 
of poeple have had the same problem and fixed by doing a wide variety of
things. The only suggestion that they could stand behind was switch to
polling for the second printer. This is my book is not an option due
to the significant increase of cpu usage. Does anyone else have a better
solution to this problem.
Thanx, Jack
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: ahmcs@world.std.com (Alan H Mintz)
Subject: Problem with w/ps/utmp when PIDs roll over?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:34:20 GMT

On our XENIX 2.3.4 system, I've noticed a couple of times that "w" gets
confused about what a user is currently doing. It seems to occur when 
the PIDs roll over (back to 1 or 100 or whatever). If a user's login 
shell has a high PID (prior to the rollover) and what they are currently
doing has a low pid, "w" simply reports "-ksh" in the "What" column.

Anybody else seen this?
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley)
Subject: Re: Compress/uncompress for Xenix 2.2.1
Organization: Unix in NYC
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 14:33:08 GMT

In article <1af18mINNbun@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> brettw@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Brett D. Watson) writes:
>
>  Yes, I actually run this old version!  Can I find
>compress/uncompress for this version of Xenix?  I don't have it on my
>system and I've loaded the basic OS and the Development system.
>PLEASE tell me I can find it somewhere.  I picked up Kermit from
>Anomaly and it's in tar.Z form.  I can't uncompress!
>

The UnixForum of Compuserve has source code for compress 4.3d, which is
known to compile on DOS, OS/2, Tandy 6000 Xenix, Xenix 2.2.4, and other
Xenix/Unix. 

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Xref: sparky comp.unix.xenix.sco:3119 biz.sco.opendesktop:683
From: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,biz.sco.opendesktop
Subject: Problem running two adaptex controllers
Summary: System crashing when running two adaptex controllers
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:59:54 GMT
Organization: Telecom Australia, TNE Computer Support Services


I have a problem:

I am running SCO ODT 1.0.1 update G on an Mylex MAE486 EISA Motherboard.
It has two adaptec aha-1542b controllers installed as per directions in the
manuals.  The following is the configuration.

adapter 1 bus ( Set up as synchronous SCSI)

	Fujitsu	M2265-512		ID=0
	wangtek	5150ES			ID=2

adapter 2 bus ( Set up as asynchronous SCSI )

	Micropolis	1588		ID=0

Kernel is configured for the default instalation of the two adapters.

System boots correctly 

No problems with accessing individual controllers
ie I can happily copy files intra disk ( On the same spindle )

When I attempt to copy from the Micropolis to the Fujitsu
the Kernel PANICs with exception 0xE after a good number of 
disk transfers (100's of Kbytes) (short copies are OK)

HELP

has anybody seen this before?

is there a fix?




Thanks in Advance



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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell)
Subject: Re: slow parallel printers
Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:41:58 GMT

In <1992Oct13.022208.11565@ceadg> jack@ceadg writes:

:We are trying to connect two parallel printer up to a XENIX 2.3.4 box.
:The first printer is on int5 and the second is on lpt7.
:The first printer prints fine ie. at a speed that would be expected.
:The second printer prints extremely slow no matter what the first printer
:is doing. SCO support has benn of little help saying that a wide variety 
:of poeple have had the same problem and fixed by doing a wide variety of
:things. The only suggestion that they could stand behind was switch to
:polling for the second printer. This is my book is not an option due
:to the significant increase of cpu usage. Does anyone else have a better
:solution to this problem.
:Thanx, Jack

Check the board for the slow printer port.  Many CHEAP parallel
printer boards don't do any interrupt processing (no IRQ jumpers
present on the board).  This is OK in DOS which can't walk and
chew gum, but makes for very slow printing since the drivers will
go into polling mode.

I ran into this a year or so ago and after applying all known
software solutions and patches (which didn't work of course:-) I
replaced the board with a better quality one (Everex Magic I/O as
I remember) and all was well with the world.

Bill
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From: timb@ksgbbs.harvard.edu (Tim Buehrer - 625-6829)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: Printing to a parallel printer
Summary: I can't get lp to work to a parallel printer
Keywords: printer parallel lp
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:33:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: ksgbbs.1992Oct14.203302.25605
Organization: Kennedy School of Government, Harvard, Cambridge


I'm embarassed to admit this, but we can't get our copy of XENIX to print to
an attached parallel printer.  We are using a Unisys 386DX-25 with one off 
from the most recent version of SCO XENIX.  We have followed the instructions
in the manual for setting up a parallel printer and it doesn't work.  We can
see the lp process out there, but it hangs on until killed rather than print-
ing.  Any gotcha's that I might not know about?  Thanks in advance for putting
up with such a basic question.

Tim Buehrer
timb@ksgbbs.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: apl@world.std.com (Anthony P Lawrence)
Subject: Re: slow parallel printers
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:43:29 GMT

In article <1215@consult.UUCP> bob@consult.UUCP (Bob Willey CDP ) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.26@netcom.com> wstreet@netcom.com (William Street) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct13.022208.11565@ceadg> jack@ceadg.UUCP () writes:
>>>We are trying to connect two parallel printer up to a XENIX 2.3.4 box.
>>>The first printer prints fine ie. at a speed that would be expected.
>>>The second printer prints extremely slow no matter what the first printer
>>
>
>We have had similar problems.
>Sometimes changing the parallel port board would improve the situation,
>sometimes not...


I just had this, and (at SCO's suggestion) switched the printers. That is,
the printer that was on lp0 was swapped to lp1 and vice-versa.

SCO didn't actually suggest this as a fix; they just wanted to know if
the slowness followed the port or stuck with the printer, BUT...

To my utter amazement (and maybe SCO's) both printers now work correctly.

Of course, I totally understand why. :-)



		Tony

Lawrence & Clark, Inc		(617) 762-0707	(206) 323-2864
Xenix/Unix support,etc 	 	 Boston		 Seattle


Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: Charlie Rosenberg <crosenberg@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:43 PDT
Subject: Re: 3270 for Xenix
Nf-ID: #R:cdp:1534600020:cdp:1534600021:000:183
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!crosenberg    Oct 13 13:43:00 1992



I spoke to SCO and they gave me names of several companies that 
make products but I would still be interested in product reviews
if anyone out there has used one of these.  Thanks!
From: vid@zooid.guild.org (David Mason)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: USR Dual Standard with Xenix 
Date:  7 Oct 92 00:41:09 GMT


Hi,

I'm using Xenix 2.3.2GT, and just acquired two USR Dual Standards, the 16,800
and v32bis models. Does anyone out there have an init string and dialer
program that supports all the features of the modem without requiring you to
lock the port at a high speed?

Also, I could use the same for a Telebit Trailblazer T2500, it doesn't seem to
have compression on when other sites connect with the current setup.

I'm not a modem dialXXX.c hacker, I would really appreciate some help from
someone who has already set them up.

Thanks!

Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: jwassell@iat.holonet.net (John Wassell)
Subject: Disable SCO Manager shell escape
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:05:36 GMT

      I have  been unable to find how to prevent users 
from accidentally hitting the exclamation mark (shift-1)
and getting into the Xenix shell from the SCO Manager
program.  In SCO Professional you run "procalc -s" and
there's an entry for it in SCO Lyrix in the "wp.sys" 
file.  I have checked the manual, but if it's in there
it's eluded me.  Thanks in advance.
From: timb@ksgbbs.harvard.edu (Tim Buehrer - 625-6829)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: How do I get out of nslookup?
Summary: Is there a way to get out of nslookup?
Keywords: nslookup exit quit
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:28:36 GMT
Organization: Kennedy School of Government, Harvard, Cambridge


Every so often, I want to check an internet address using nslookup.  Unfor-
tunately, there is no man page for it on our system and whenever I run it
I can't get out.  There must be a way to quit that I can't guess.  Could some-
one enlighten me?  (With my luck on these things, your going to tell me that
it is on page 3 of the tcp/ip manual.  I promise I did look for it before
posting.)

Tim Buehrer
timb@ksgbbs.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
From: apl@world.std.com (Anthony P Lawrence)
Subject: Re: slow parallel printers
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:08:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.234158.10512@Celestial.COM> bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes:
>Check the board for the slow printer port.  Many CHEAP parallel
>printer boards don't do any interrupt processing (no IRQ jumpers
>present on the board).  This is OK in DOS which can't walk and
>chew gum, but makes for very slow printing since the drivers will
>go into polling mode.
>
>I ran into this a year or so ago and after applying all known
>software solutions and patches (which didn't work of course:-) I
>replaced the board with a better quality one (Everex Magic I/O as
>I remember) and all was well with the world.
>
Somebody 'splain this to me:

I'm having this problem right now with a SCO 3.2v4 system: second
printer is slow & none of the solutions do a thing.

But why did it work just fine in Xenix 2.3.4 two days ago?



		Tony

Lawrence & Clark, Inc		(617) 762-0707	(206) 323-2864
Xenix/Unix support,etc 	 	 Boston		 Seattle
Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco,comp.mail.misc
Subject: DELIVER (XENIX): beginner's questions
From: root@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 01:57:54 GMT
Followup-To: comp.mail.misc
Distribution: na
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, Canada
Keywords: deliver

I've just installed Chip's Deliver, and have some minor glitches I'd
appreciate help with.

If I install deliver in /usr/deliver/bin, and create a personal .forward
file (/usr/kmcvay/.forward) reading "| /usr/deliver/bin/deliver kmcvay"
I see the following behavior...

Chip's u-notify sample, installed as $HOME/.deliver, works like a charm.
Deliver, however, also seems unable to deal with the delivery address. I end
up with two copies of the mail - one from the user who sent it, and another
from the mailer daemon, which says:

From MAILER-DAEMON Thu Oct 15 18:16:42 1992
Return-Path: <MAILER-DAEMON>
Received: by oneb.almanac.bc.ca (/\=-/\ Smail3.1.18.1 #18.33)
	id <m0mfgJ0-0000pXC@oneb.almanac.bc.ca>; Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:16 PDT
Message-Id: <m0mfgJ0-0000pXC@oneb.almanac.bc.ca>
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:16 PDT
From: <MAILER-DAEMON@oneb.almanac.bc.ca>
To: real-kmcvay
Subject: mail failed, sending to address owner
Reference: <m0mfgIu-0000sjC@oneb.almanac.bc.ca>
Status: RO

|------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------|
 "| /usr/deliver/bin/deliver kmcvay" ... failed: transport pipe: child returned status EX_1 (1)
|------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------|

This looks like a permissions problem, but my head's out to lunch after
several intense weeks trying to get listserv running (Yes!) on a XENIX box,
and I can't see straight, let alone think straight, this evening. (My home
directory is 750 kmcvay group - and that seems to be the problem - if I make
it world-writable, deliver works fine, but I'd rather not leave my directory
wide open.. suggestions welcome, as always.)

If I remove my .forward file, and leave the .deliver file (u-notify), the
notify message doesn't send $SENDER - just  

You have new mail From: 

and the Deliver errlog reads:

--------------------------- 15 Oct 1992, 18:38:59 PDT
process 14191: ..mail.local 2.1.08
..mail.local: delivery error on host oneb
Delivery to these addresses failed:
	kmcvay
Reason(s) for failure:
	"Mail sent!": Invalid address string
	"Sending mail...": Invalid address string
+ Header:
| From server Thu Oct 15 18:38:54 1992
| To: kmcvay
| Subject: test deliver
| Date: Thu Oct 15 18:38:54 1992
process 14191: exit
===========================

I would rather use the .forward file, since it looks like that's the easiest
one to deal with, i.e. sort out the permissions problem causing deliver to
fail...

I'd also like to collect some sample Deliver files, particularly those used
to automate the transfer of text files via mail, but I'm not picky :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.xenix.sco
Subject: LISTSERV: SYSTEM CALL EXIT STATUS 130?
From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:24:05 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, Canada
Summary: what is it?

Can someone tell me what this error means?
(The message appears during LISTSERV failure while trying to execute the cp
command noted in the warning file)

WARNING: System call exit status 130: 
cp /usr/server/requests /usr/server/.messages
Time/Date:  0:25:51, 10/05/92

The cp command is run by server, and the file 'requests' is owned by server,
group group. At cp startup, /usr/server/.messages is created, zero-bytes,
owner server, group group.

See earlier LISTSERV articles for more background...

btw - my thanks to all those who have responded to my earlier plea for help
- the permissions in /usr/server are correct, as established by the setup
script.

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                    < October 26th: voting NO >