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050 Time marches... Norm PASSES (Easily)!  Norm gets his radio (H.T.)
500 Unknown command, 'Time'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 More time...  Field Day Preperations for 9A.
500 Unknown command, 'More'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Tom: Norm I need your radio for field day (TS-440S)
500 Unknown command, 'Tom'
050 Norm:  Sure!  I haven't used it in 3 years...
500 Unknown command, 'Norm'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Norm visits field day, sees his an many more rigs in use.
500 Unknown command, 'Norm'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Norm: I gotta get my code, this is great!
500 Unknown command, 'Norm'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 After field day, I have Norms TS-440S, but I discover the Kenwood failure modes
500 Unknown command, 'After'
050 in my rig, so I keep his rig until I can fix mine.  (Kenwood sent me the service
500 Unknown command, 'in'
050 notes for my TS-440S).
500 Unknown command, 'notes'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Norm:  When can I have my TS-440S Tom?
500 Unknown command, 'Norm'
050 Tom:    You know the drill!
500 Unknown command, 'Tom'
050 Nrom:  O.K. O.K. I'll take the code in 2 weeks.
500 Unknown command, 'Nrom'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 We are still waiting, Boy!  I wish he'd hurry up and take the test,
500 Unknown command, 'We'
050 I need his incentive of taking his rig back to get me off my duff and fix mine!
500 Unknown command, 'I'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 Kids?  Kids?  Heck I have grandchildren who act like (me) us!
500 Unknown command, 'Kids'
050 --
500 Unknown command, '-'
050 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050    /-/-/-/-/             |                 Informal Class Sunday's @ 13:00 EST,
500 Unknown command, '/'
050    /-/-/-/-/         /---/---/             followed by a N&T VE Session @ 15:00,
500 Unknown command, '/'
050        |                 x         |       @ Navy Barracks @ Fort Devens, Ma.
500 Unknown command, '|'
050     /--/--/              x     /---/---/   Second & Fourth Mondays of the month.
500 Unknown command, '/'
050        x       .       --x--       x       @ Lura A. White School  Shirley, Ma.
500 Unknown command, 'x'
050       -x       |         x         x       E-Mail or call 617-981-3474 (Work)
500 Unknown command, '-'
050        x       |       __x         x       Call in: 145.41, 145.45, 448.625 Mhz.
500 Unknown command, 'x'
050        x_______|_______||x         x       Ham Radio (Elmer) Night @ 19:00 EST
500 Unknown command, 'x_______'
050       /                ||x\      /   \     First, Third, (Fifth) Mondays.
500 Unknown command, '/'
050     /-----------------/||x \   /___ ___\   Thomas C. J. Sefranek  WA1RHP
500 Unknown command, '/'
050     | [ ] [ ] ## [  ]| ||x  | ||  | |  ||  112 Great Road  Shirley, Ma. 01464
500 Unknown command, '|'
050     |         ##     | ||x  | ||  | |  ||  Home Phone: 508-425-6672
500 Unknown command, '|'
050 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
500 Unknown command, '-'
050  
500 Unknown command, ''
050 ------------------------------
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050  
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050 End of Info-Hams Digest V92 #1186
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Info-Hams Digest            Thu, 12 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue 1186

Today's Topics:
              "Digital" instead of "Morse" requirement?
                      * Reminder, HP QSO Party *
                          club calls on-line
                      Digital Signal Processing
                DJ580T - why does it keep doing this?
                  Famous or well known HAMS (2 msgs)
                      FAQ - 2m Recommendations?
                       Ham Radio Causes Cancer
                    Help, RF in a Toyota 4-Runner
                      HELP: Plse Identify FILTER
                      On-line callsign database?
                        question pool revision
                  Two Meter Yagi Antenna Discussion
                       What we used to have...
                      World-map database needed

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:44:46 GMT
From: spsgate!mogate!newsgate!usenet@uunet.uu.net
Subject: "Digital" instead of "Morse" requirement?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Ya know, I really don't understand this fixation on 'digital' modes. Maybe
it's because most of the people on the net are computer weenies. What is
so holy about digital modes? How many of the 500,000+ hams out there use
the digital modes and how many of them know any more about them than how
to connect their KAM or PK232 to their radio? I mess with packet and RTTY
and find them enjoyable but no more or less so than SSB or (gasp) CW. High
speed digital would be interesting but probably less than 0.1% of the hams
in the country ever get above 1200 bps. I just don't understand why
'digital' modes are put on a pedestal.

As for the proposal to substitute a test on digital modes for Morse code,
what would it cover? What would it prove? There are already questions on
the exams that address that area.

Don't construe this to be advocating CW or anything else, I personally
don't care one way or the other about whether CW should or should not be a
requirement for a license so don't flame me about it.

Just my $0.02 worth...

73...     Mark   KG7JL

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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:37:40 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscit.sc.hp.com!scd.hp.com!hpscdm!hplex
Subject: * Reminder, HP QSO Party *
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

To: Hewlett Packard Co. Amateur Radio Operators

HP's Fall QSO party will be on Sat. & Sun, Nov 14th & 15th, 1992.

Time:	Saturday UTC 0000Z to 2400Z (SSB & CW)
	Sunday   UTC 0000Z to 1200Z (CW & RTTY)

See notes "hp.misc" for more details


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          /-/-/    .
            |      |    +(       Mel Lau de AB6IB
       X-X  |      |    l        HP California Personal Computer Division
        |___|_-_  /|\   l        Silicon Valley, California
       /       /\  |    x
     /-------/    \|    x        ....hplabs!pollux!mlau
     | [ [ [ |      \   X
     | #     |      |   X
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Date: 12 Nov 92 20:53:35 GMT
From: dog.ee.lbl.gov!hellgate.utah.edu!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!ub!acsu.bu
Subject: club calls on-line
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Thanks to Jere Sandidge, K4FUM, the US club calls are now available on
Buffalo callsign server.

Devon

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:57:32 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!convex!constellation!osu
Subject: Digital Signal Processing
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1992Nov3.151830.14785@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (
>Rajiv's review and experiences with it has really piqued my interest.
>Has does program it and is there a way to do it in C language? Never


I asked a similar question, several months ago, and got quite a few very
knowledgeable answers from others on this group.  Basically, yes, you can
program a DSP chip in any language you want.  The limitations are not what
language you might use, but whether there exists a good compiler for that
language which will produce machine-level code specifically for a given
CPU, programmable controller, or DSP chip.
	Secondly, if there is such a compiler, could you afford it?  There
is a real problem in that many of the development tools such as EPROM burners,
high-level language compilers, etc which will produce assembly-level code
for DSP chips are outrageously expensive because they are sold to a very
small population when compared to such things as assemblers or compilers for
the 8086, 6800, 6502, etc type chips.
	What we have, here, is not a grand ripoff conspiracy, at least most
of the time, but rather an economy of scale.  The software engineer who wrote
the compiler needs to be paid whether the product is sold to 100 people or
10,000.
	Also, to be able to do fantastic things with a DSP chip, one also
needs to either understand the math involved to develop a filter or processor
algorithm or be content with cook-booking a program out of a book if such a
program can be found.
	Basically, there is a ton of things to do and learn when it comes to
DSP, and amateur radio is potentially one of the best places to learn this
new world.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ   Stillwater, OK
O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 07:59:43 CST
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!
Subject: DJ580T - why does it keep doing this?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

kurdzo@gdc.com (Jim Kurdzo) writes:

> Charles Hemstreet (hemstree@lamar.acns.colostate.edu) wrote:
> >
> > I have a DJ580T and I really love this radio.  Unfortunately I have
> > been running into some bad behavior.  I have owned this radio for
> > close to 4 months now and I have had it's memory *bleep* out on me three
> > times.
> >
>
> I've had a similar experience with my DJ-F1T.  It turned out that I was
> accidently pushing the function key as I turned on the power.  As documented
> in the manual, this is the way to reset the radio (and clear out the memory).
>

Ditto here, I seldom run it on 2 meters and when setting the
default to UHF (turm VHF off) I have managed to re-set it several
times as the command key is awfully easy to accidentally depress.

I was wondering if the DJ-F1T is the same as the DJ-580T with the
exception of being a single bander ?  Since Dayton last year I
have been trying to get the guy who does "support" for Alinco on
CI$ to get me the other tape (group calls, DSQ, etc) as we just
bought our second DJ-580, it had become a pressing issue (in that
we could actually use those functions).  Having given up on the
guy on CI$ (who apparently can't read or something) I wrote a
letter direct to Alinco and they sent me the tape for the DJ-F1T
and another single bander and I was wondering if they screwed up
again ?

Other than the "support" on CI$ we have been !very! happy with
the radios.

Take care, Vikki (NNN0AEE/WV9K)

===========================================================================
Vikki Welch, WV9K - sysadmin - Welch Research (vikki@precipice.chi.il.us)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Date: 13 Nov 1992 11:26:28 +1100
From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!munnari.oz.au!metro!seagoon.newcastle.edu.au!frey.newc
Subject: Famous or well known HAMS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

How about Cliff Stoll K7TA - Author of "The Cuckoos Egg".

alan.
--
Alan Hargreaves (VK2KVF) alan@frey.newcastle.edu.au, Uni of Newcastle, UCS.
Ph: +61 49 215 512 Fax: +61 49 684 742 ICBM: 32 53 44.6 S / 151 41 52.6 E

Software Bloat -  Any UNIX(tm) after Version 7.	(Sm@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au)

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Date: 12 Nov 92 13:59:14 GMT
From: news!iat.holonet.net!psinntp!psinntp!ncrlnk!ncrclm!tskelton@network.UCSD.E
Subject: Famous or well known HAMS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

<1992Nov11.090617.25316@rdg.dec.com>
Sender:
Reply-To: tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton)
Followup-To:
Distribution:
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC
Keywords:

In article <1992Nov11.090617.25316@rdg.dec.com> frenchs@forsan.enet.dec.com ()
writes:
>
>King Hussain of Jordan, don't know his call but he prefers to be called
Hussain when on air, not King Hussain.
>
>Simon

To the best of my knowledge, King Hussein's call is J Y 1.
Also, the King of Spain is licensed:  King Juan Carlos is
E A 0 J C.
73, Tom
--

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Date: 12 Nov 92 22:49:27 GMT
From: gossip.pyramid.com!pyramid!infmx!seashore!randall@uunet.uu.net
Subject: FAQ - 2m Recommendations?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

jerryp@key.COM (J. R. Pendleton) writes:

>The time has finally come for me to buy an HT.  Afterall I do need something
>to get talked-in to the swapmeets where I can buy parts for my HF boat anchors,
>right? :-)

>After doing some thinking and reading recent reviews in the magazines, I came u
>with a set of requirments and nice-to-haves.

>  1.  Requirement : Rx and Tx coverage of all of 2m (I think they all do that,


You've got it!


>  2.  Requirement : Rx capability in the aviation bands.  (I about broke my nec
>      at the Reno Airshow trying to listen to the cockpit converations on the
>      aviation ht owned by the guy behind me)


Some 2m HTs can do this.  The Kenwood TH-27A,  Alinco DJ-580T (dual band),
and the Icom 2SRA (receives 25-905 MHz) are a few of them.  However,
wide band receive HTs are more susceptible to intermod and spur interference.
When you get something, you give up something.

>  3.  Requirement : Scanning.  Funny story:  I was playing with a friends two
>      meter HT with scan and I found a college football coaches frequency.
>      Interesting (profane) stuff.  Came home and bought a scanner.  It was
>      also a lot of fun listening to the Amtrak crew on my recent train trip.

The models I mention have lots of scanning features.  No problem on almost
all of the HTs available.

>  4.  Nice-to-have:  Tx and Rx in marine bands.   No flames please.  I sail. It
>      illegal if I don't emit and if I do have to emit, I'll be more than happy
>      to tell it to the judge afterwards.  (I do have a marine vhf)


Not possible.  Ham and marine rigs must have different FCC type acceptance.
You will not find this.  There is NO rig that can legally transmit on
a ham band and a band used by another service.


>  5.  Nice-to-have: DTMF, CTCSS and all the other initials.  Might be fun, but
>      this is not my primary operating mode, its not all the important to me.

Almost all of today's HTs have this.

>Any comments (not flames) on the requirements?

>Any make and model suggestions?  I've seen and old kenwood I like but....

>New and used suggestions (I prefer used, I don't want to tie a whole lot money
>up in a secondary operating mode) are both welcome.  I also wouldn't mind
>street pricing information.

You will probably be forced to buy a new one.  Very few older ones
can receive the aircraft band.

73 DE KK6MY

--

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc.
Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall

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Date: 12 Nov 92 18:01:00 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!ogicse!network.ucsd.edu!news-mail-gateway@a
Subject: Ham Radio Causes Cancer
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

> In rec.radio.amateur.misc, jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:
>
> >In the 92 ARRL Handbook there is article by a doctor on the Cancer and
> >RF. To make a long story short there was a slightly higher incidence of
> >some rare form of lukemia and that was about it. He used death certificates
> >as the basis of his research. Interesting article.
>
> Dr. Milham's famous study purporting to show that ham radio causes cancer
> is one of those publications that everybody talks about, but that no one
> has actually read.  It was published in a hard-to-find journal on
> eipdemiology.  I managed to obtain a copy and have read it.
>
> AL N1AL

Do you have tht exact reference (journal, vol, issue, page) for this
article.  Sorry to have to post this to the net, but your sig does
not have an email address, and part of the from: line didn't make
it through.

Bryant, N5GWF
wfaust@nomvs.lsumc.edu

------------------------------

Date: 13 Nov 92 01:16:39 GMT
From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
Subject: Help, RF in a Toyota 4-Runner
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Well,  I dont have a 4-Runner, but I do have a 1992 LandCruiser.  I mounted my
Yaesu 5200 in it and have experienced no computer anomalies.  The 5200 has a
remote-able head, so I mounted the main transceiver as far to the rear of the
vehicle as I could.  I wired power directly from the battery with #10 wire and
fused both leads.  I brought the power through the fire wall to a bus strip
under the dash (to make it easy to power future projects).  The antenna is
mounted directly over my head using a conventional gutter mount.  So far I have
had no problem what-so-ever with this set-up.  The main thing to keep in mind
is to use power directly from the battery, keep the transceiver away from the
dash, and mount the antenna high and away from the engine compartment.

Good Luck,
John KM6JV

km6jv.el_segundo@xerox.com

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:11:07 GMT
From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!news.acns.nwu.edu!casbah.acn
Subject: HELP: Plse Identify FILTER
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

First, I thank all who replied to my earlier request for help.  I am
trying to use a Kenwood TM431 on 9600 baud and I suspect that my
455Kc filter is too narrow.  It is identified as:

              W455F
              Cm  A

The Cm looks like:

           ccccc
         c
       c   mm   mm
       c   m  m  m
       c   m     m
        c
          ccccc

Could you please help me identify the company that makes these filters
and where  I might find one that is wider.  My guess is that it will be
W455D or W455C.  (If the naming convention is similar to that of TOKO
and Murata.)

Thanks

Rajiv
aa9ch
Address: r-dewan@nwu.edu
Phone:   None. Only CW.
And occasionally AMTOR.

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:35:07 GMT
From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!oak!laborde@ames.arpa
Subject: On-line callsign database?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

For those whose server chokes on "callsign.cs.buffalo.edu" try:

telnet 128.205.32.2 2000

-grl.

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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:21:16 GMT
From: agate!stanford.edu!rock!concert!samba!cheech@ames.arpa
Subject: question pool revision
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Several (many?) months ago, I saw an article concerning the revision
of the question pools for license exams.  At the time this was not
of interest, but with all the recent discussion and flamage about
the exams my curiousity is aroused.

Are (were) the question pools being revised or is this merely a not
so subtle indication that I'm losing more brain cells?

If a revision of the question pools is underway I would appreciate
information about who to contact to offer my assistance.

Thanks.

Greg  KD4IIA

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 10:50:23 CST
From: hellgate.utah.edu!fcom.cc.utah.edu!ux1!news.byu.edu!hamblin.math.byu.edu!s
Subject: Two Meter Yagi Antenna Discussion
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

v027197@stortek.com (George Noyes) writes:

> In article <01GQOHIGZUR60009JO@NEXUS.QGRAPH.COM> BMOERS@CORP.QGRAPH.COM (Brad
>
> I've been working on modifying the 4218 to get closer to the theoretical
> maximum of 14.5+ gain with minor changes.  One mod looks like I can get
> 14.4 dBd with only minor element changes /movements. tbd


Why reinvent the antenna??  For all of you out there with 4218XL's; the fix
is well documented.  The grandfather, father, and son of all VHF and UHF
antenna work is Steve Powlishen, K1FO.  He wrote an article a few years back
on how to fix the performance of this antenna, which consisted mainly of
removing the hokey T-element thing on the back and moving the reflector.  I
think he pulled out hair figuring this out.  He is design force behind the
FO antenna designs sold by Rutland arrays.

I have the article around here somewhere.  I will find it, scan it in and
post it to the net for all interested in improving the performance of their
4218XL antenna.

Steve KA0VYB

p.s. I believe the article appeared in an old copy of CQ mag.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:58:56 GMT
From: pacbell.com!sgiblab!sgigate!odin!chuck.dallas.sgi.com!adams@network.UCSD.E
Subject: What we used to have...
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

We lost 11 meters in the mid '50s.  if you look around, the old gonset
rigs, the collins 310B (cw only) exciter, and other rigs had the 11 meter
frequencies on them.  interesting question: - can we operate cw in the
CB bands?  there is no license required, but what modes are allowed?
any lawyers out there?

p.s.  i don't consider myself an OF.  i just started young.  ;-)

chuck k5fo  CP-60

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:46:21 GMT
From: sun-barr!cs.utexas.edu!csc.ti.com!tilde.csc.ti.com!fstop.csc.ti.com!fstop.
Subject: World-map database needed
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

There is a server on the internet that gives LAT/LONG information, elevation,
and population given a city name or zip code.

The help files indicate that it is possible to get the data base from the
author..

Data came primarily from the US Geological Survey and the US Postal Service.
Coverage includes all US cities, counties, and states, as well as some US
mountains, rivers, lakes, national parks, etc.  A few international cities
have also been included.


Try:   telnet martini.eecs.umich.edu 3000
                                     ^
                                     |
     DON'T FORGET THIS NUMBER--------+
     (This is not a normal telnet session)

... and you are connected...


 enter a zip code (or a complex expression, see below)

75002

        0 Allen
        1 48085 Collin
        2 TX Texas
        3 US United States
        F 45 Populated place
        L 33 06 11 N  96 40 13 W
        P 8314
        E 652
        Z 75002
To log off, type "bye".

Here is some info from the help files I found:
   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
  Direct questions or comments to Tom Libert, libert@citi.umich.edu,
  or phone (313) 936-0827.  Please let me know if you write new clients.
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Q. How can I get a copy of the raw server data?
  A. Send mail to info@comsol.com for information.

  Q. Who maintains the data?  What do I do if I find a mistake?
  A. The data are maintained by various government agencies, for
     the most part.  I don't have the resources to make corrections
     myself, but I can pass along mistakes to the ultimate maintenance
     agency.  I do plan to upgrade the data fairly soon (populations
     and ZIP codes are suffering from bit rot now, for example.)

--

        -- Mike

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - + - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - +
Mike Linnig, Texas Instruments Inc. | 97.43% of all statistics are made |
Phone: (214) 575-3597  TI MSG: BLIP | up; most of them (83.6 percent)   |
Internet: linnig@m2000.dseg.ti.com  | are wrong.                        |
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Date: 12 Nov 92 18:13:34 GMT
From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!xn.ll.mit.edu!ll.mit.edu!tcs@RUTGERS.EDU
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1992Nov11.070756.16743@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, <1992Nov11.152832.17527
Reply-To : tcs@ll.mit.edu (Tom Sefranek)
Subject : Re: Requiring a ham license to buy...was Re: CB

|>: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl) writes:

|> I wouldn't sell an amplifier or transmitter to an individual that
|> I felt intended to use it illegally.  But I wouldn't be discouraged
|> by the lack of a license.  Having a transmitter on hand can be a
|> real incentive to a kid to make sure he GETS his license.
|> --
|> 	Mike Berger
|> 	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu


Kid?  Kid?  I guess kids come in all sizes sexes and shapes...

(With apologies to Norm.)

About 4 years ago my latest group of Elmerites wished to purchase the best bang
for their buck in H.F. gear.  Being inclined toward the TS-440S, I too added my
dollars in voting for that rig.  We all very much enjoyed our rigs...
Except for Norm, who just didn't find the time to get his license.
Well, time came for buying the new IC-W2A.  Again, we did a bulk purchase,
and we all enjoyed our rigs...
Except for Norm, who... you know the verse.
Well, Diana (KC1SP) and I went for a ride on my bike on a nice day to see Norm.
He asked us about how he could listen on his W2A...
We showed him the marvels, opened up the receive ability etc.
And then, left WITH his HT (W2A)!!!
Norm:  Where are you going with my H.T.?
Diana:  When you get your license, we'll give it to you!
Tom:    I hold VE sessions EVERY Sunday Norm!
Norm: O.K. O.K., I'll take the test next week!
Tom:  Fine, you'll get your radio when you pass!

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Time marches... Norm PASSES (Easily)!  Norm gets his radio (H.T.)

More time...  Field Day Preperations for 9A.

Tom: Norm I need your radio for field day (TS-440S)
Norm:  Sure!  I haven't used it in 3 years...

Norm visits field day, sees his an many more rigs in use.

Norm: I gotta get my code, this is great!

After field day, I have Norms TS-440S, but I discover the Kenwood failure modes
in my rig, so I keep his rig until I can fix mine.  (Kenwood sent me the service
notes for my TS-440S).

Norm:  When can I have my TS-440S Tom?
Tom:    You know the drill!
Nrom:  O.K. O.K. I'll take the code in 2 weeks.

We are still waiting, Boy!  I wish he'd hurry up and take the test,
I need his incentive of taking his rig back to get me off my duff and fix mine!

Kids?  Kids?  Heck I have grandchildren who act like (me) us!
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