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From: mw4w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Wells Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Mustang 65-67
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:34:42 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


 
In <1992Apr5.192835.29127@math.ufl.edu> ,"German guy who knows nothing
'bout american cars" writes:

 >I'm looking for a 65-67 Mustang convertible but I have no idea
 >how much a rustfree, good looking one costs. Since I don't
 >wanna get ripped off - what's a reasonable price? HELP!!!
 
  I've seen fairly clean, high mileage 289 and Straight six 'Stangs go
for maybe 6 or 7 grand...you get what you pay for (Except for the
mythical old lady who sells her deceased husband's '59 vette for $100)

P.S.  The 67-70 Cogars are, in this Cougar owner's unbiased opinion, a
better car.                          
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: dedek@meaddata.com (Mike Dedek)
Subject: '56 Pontiac Catalina
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:03:32 GMT

My wife inherited a 1956 Pontiac Catalina from her grandparents.
We are the second owners, the car has about 50,000 miles on it.
It ran as recently as 4 years ago, and the interior is in good
condition, no rips.  I think it's all original except the tires.
Can anyone tell me about this, is it a collector's item, will it
be particularly easy or difficult to find parts for (I'd like to
keep it if not I'll surely post the sale here).

Thanks,

Mike
From: cunico@acsu.buffalo.edu (Robert P. Cunico)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Restotring '72 Challenger, Help!
Keywords: Help!
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:43:19 GMT
Organization: UB


	I am trying to gain information for my planned 
restoration of my '72 Dodge Challenger. Firstly, if 
someone could post the broadcast sheet decode for this make 
I would GREATLY appreciate it.
 My most pressing need though is for photos of the engine 
compartment of a similarly optioned car. Mine is a 
340-4BBl, NO air, automatic transmission, power steering 
w/cooler, non-assisted brakes. Most cars I've seen have 
air conditioning, which results in hoses, wires, and other 
details being in different locations.
Many thanks!

				-Bob Cunico
				acsu.buffalo.edu
From: mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 04:27:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Mustang 65-67
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique

In alt.autos.antique, jrb@math.ufl.edu.FC.HP.COM writes:

> 
>  I'm looking for a 65-67 Mustang convertible but I have no idea
>  how much a rustfree, good looking one costs. Since I don't
>  wanna get ripped off - what's a reasonable price? HELP!!!
>	         
Juergen, I have been a big restorer or fords for years, mainly 
rancheros, and my family has dabled in to mustangs in the years
before.  I was looking for a car just as you are a year and a 
half ago, and I found that most people know what they have when
they are selling, or have bad misconceptions of what they have and
can want 2 times what the car is really worth.  

A 65-66 convertable in fairly good shape will run as the other   
response before this one stated, for around 7000-8000 bucks.
Ones in great shape and original around 10,000 to 15,000 depending
on the sellers want for quick cash. A 67 will run 1000 or so more.

You may get lucky and find one thats beat up but can be restored fairly
easy, or one that needs to be put back to an original shape which is 
always what you want to do.

At any rate good luck, and don't give up.

Jeff Mortensen
From: brianw@spider.co.uk (Brian Wyld)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Morris Minors/Travellers
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:13:17 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Apr6.162255.1560@spider.co.uk> angusg@spider.co.uk (Angus Grossart) writes:
>Can anyone warn me of the potential pitfalls when buying a Morris Minor or
>Traveller.  What prices should I be expected to pay for the differing years
>models etc.  I am aware that the old spilt screen versions up the price but 
>other that, what other features (models) infulence the price.
>
>Any help appreciated
>
>Angus
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From: kmason@triton.unm.edu (Kirk L. Mason)
Subject: Dodge, '63. 330/440/Polara
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:42:31 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Summary: Need headlight rings.
Followup-To: alt.autos.antique

Pardon me if this is outside the charter of this qroup. But...

It's time to start the old Christmas shopping and I got an idea for my dad's
present.  He's got three '63 dodges (one each of those listed above) and they 
all have the same front end...until...my sister decided to do a litle bodywork
on one using the neighbors car as a tool.  Insurance took care of the neighbor
but my dad needs some new headlight rings (man, these cars are tough).

So, for you Mopar experts, were these rings used on any other sytles/years?
Anyone know a source of replacement? 

Thanks in advance.
kmason
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Date: Wed,  8 Apr 1992 16:27:20 -0400 
From: Mark Wells Wilson <mw4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Statistics
	<8850@alvin.mcnc.org>


Ted Brooks writes:

>> Going through the March arbitron traffic statistics, out of 265 "legi-
>> timate" alt newsgroups, we were number 53 in traffic.  We (you) posted
>> 760.4 kilobytes to this group, beating out alt.beer. :-)
 
>Guess that proves how many old car nuts there really are out there. Just think
>about it - there's more interest in talking about cars than beer :-). And to 
>think the word's still just getting out about the group...

What more is there to talk about beer than an ice cold 16 ounce
Milwaukee's Best?
From: overland@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael A. Overland)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: the bill that went through congress
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:57:13 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

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From: lsmith@lonestar.utsa.edu (Lori L. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Z Cars?  Anyone?
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:43:08 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

I'm looking for anyone out there who has a Datsun Z Car.
I have a 71' 240z and a 82' 280zx, and some friends and I are interested
in any club type activities that are happening anywhere.  We think we
would like to start a club in San Antonio, but we don't know how to go
about it and what other clubs offer in the way of events, discounts, etc.
Other than that, I'd just like to rap with a few Z nuts.

Thanks,

lsmith@lonestar.utsa.edu

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From: jhopkins@cbacc.cba.uga.edu (John Hopkins)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Advice on Ford needed
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:32:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Terry College of Business, University of Georgia

In article <1992Apr9.211225.15338@mlb.semi.harris.com> jws@cica4.mlb.semi.harris.com (James W. Swonger) writes:


> The Galaxie of that time was nice; not too super big, decent lines, baby fins
>and took big motors. Even a 289 would move it along though (I rode in one once)
>and plenty of room for lounging out...

The '67 Galaxie had some seriously cool lines -- much more angular and less 
boxy than the '65 and '66.  It works good with a 289 in it, although a 390 
would give it better muscle.

A '67 Galaxie with a 289 can get 22 mpg on a good day.  Not at all bad for 
that era and better than many cars today.

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From: patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie)
Subject: Re: Paint Color Sheets
Reply-To: patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:55:03 GMT

Stupid question time. Anyone know where I can get a copy of Ford's paint
color swatches for 1961?

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From: prg@mgweed.ATT.Com (Phil Gunsul - WB9AAX)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Body restoration & painting
Keywords: 33192
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:35:24 GMT
Reply-To: prg@mgweed.att.com (Phil Gunsul - WB9AAX)
Organization: AT&T Information Systems - Montgomery Works

In article <8837@alvin.mcnc.org> brooks@mcnc.org (Ted Brooks) writes:
<
<You might want to check with your system administrator on getting this
<newsgroup. I posted a longwinded reply which has since rolled off. Sorry,
<I didn't keep a copy.
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<Ted Brooks
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I have forwarded a copy to Eric via email...


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From: mrdavids@descartes.waterloo.edu (Mark Davidson)
Subject: Fabulous New Mazda RX7 - GIF Posted
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:36:44 GMT

Hello all you rotary lovers....

So... here it is, the new RX7.  I KNOW I don't have to tell everyone here about it...
just letting you know that it has been posted.

The photo was scanned from a recent Road & Track.

I have posted to both:
  alt.binaries.pictures 
  alt.binaries.pictures.misc:

Image Name:  blackrx7.gif
Image Size:  1024 x 448
   Colours:  256
      Type:  JPEG

Enjoy,
    Mark

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Ferrari Club of America, East & Central Canada Region, "Northern Prancer"   :^) 
Email:  mrdavids@descartes.uwaterloo.ca                          
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Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Navarra)
Subject: Re: Mustang 65-67
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:49:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.192835.29127@math.ufl.edu> German guy who knows nothing 'bout american cars writes:
>
> I'm looking for a 65-67 Mustang convertible but I have no idea
> how much a rustfree, good looking one costs. Since I don't
> wanna get ripped off - what's a reasonable price? HELP!!!
>
>                            Juergen

	As I have posted before when asked about the purchase price of
a Mustang there are many factors. Assuming you are not going to buy a
*perfect* 65-67 convertible, the range for these beauties tops out at
around 15,000. However, that does not mean that you have to spend 1/3
that much to get a good one. 
	Rather than posting all my tips again, let me just say that 
before you invest in any classic car, ascertain how original it is,
and make sure the frame is in very good condition. Other issues are
not as important. If you are going to be spending a considerable amount
of money and want this car as a collector's item, find out the car's
serial number and check it with Ford. Likewise, the fewer the owners,
the better chance that you can find out the history of the car. 
	Traditionally, the 66 convertible is the less expensive between
65-67. The 64 1/2 of course is the real collector's dream. Also, the
8 cylinder, manual transmission fetches more as well. 
	You know however, Ford did release some 'European' Mustangs 
whiched they named T1's. It looks just like a Mustang but the emblems
are different. I read an article about them a while back. Very rare. 
If you find one, snatch it!

-tms
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From: fleck@acsu.buffalo.edu (Richard J. Fleck)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: 67 Galaxie
Date: 12 Apr 92 15:19:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB


>The '67 Galaxie had some seriously cool lines -- much more angular and less 

As the former owner of a 67 convertible I agree.  Even six inches of snow
couldn't hide its beauty when I saw at the junk yard.

>boxy than the '65 and '66.  It works good with a 289 in it, although a 390 
>would give it better muscle.

Definately get one with a 390.  Its a real sleeper.  Nobody expects a big
beauty like that to jump off the line and trounce most cars.

>A '67 Galaxie with a 289 can get 22 mpg on a good day.  Not at all bad for 

The 390 will drink it down at the rate of ~16mpg depending on how much
you jump on it.  But who cares when you are in such a beautiful car.

To bad I had to sell it to pay for school.  The guy who bought it
was treating it right.  Can't ask for much more than that.

later
Rich Fleck
67 Mustang
41 GMC 1/2 ton
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD))
Subject: Re: woody
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:59:29 GMT

In article <8872@alvin.mcnc.org> brooks@mcnc.org (Ted Brooks) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.045543.21775@umbc3.umbc.edu>, robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD)) writes:
>> In article <1992Apr12.192345.14938@hubcap.clemson.edu> jlysagh@hubcap.clemson.edu (james joseph lysaght) writes:
>
>Very true. Of course, in this particular case you have a couple other factors
>against you - a prime '40 Ford in a desireable body style is always quite
>expensive, and the current owner sounds like a butthead. Still, the laws of 
>supply and demand hold, and there isn't exactly an oversupply of woodies...

I agree with your assessment of the basic desirability of *any* model of '40
(and '41) Ford.  The owner, however, isn't a butthead, as you surmise.  He
just doesn't care to part with a car that he loves dearly (and others obviously
love it dearly enough to make huge offers).  Actually, he is making money with
the car, because it gets rented out to movie companies from time to time.  The
guy seemed really very friendly, wasn't neurotic about letting people see the
car (or even do careful touchy-feelie), etc..

>If you just gotta have a woodie, economics may dictate avoiding flathead
>Fords a la Beach Boys mobiles. You might want to look at late '40s to early
>'50s non Fords. Chevrolet, Pontiac, Plymouth, and Dodge all built woodies,

(stuff deleted)
>An important concern in buying such a car is the condition of the wood. This
>stuff has to be kept dry and well varnished. Repairs are expensive, and it
>won't be easy finding someone skilled enough to do the repairs. Your best
>bet for woodie repairs would probably be a boatbuilder who makes wood boats.
>Your average body shop wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole.
> 
>Ted Brooks

I agree with nearly everything you say, Ted, but you don't really address the
question either.  My point (though I should have stated it clearly) is that
I have not seen a woody project car for sale in YEARS.  Those that I have
seen for sale have all been (better or worse) restored and running - and
all have been quite expensive, even compared to the same make/year sedan or
coupe (sometimes roadster, too).

Have you got any recent info. on prices and availability?

Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: jmansfie@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jason Mansfield)
Subject: Car Auction and Extravaganza!
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:11:26 GMT

	There's a car show/auction/etc. in Atascadero coming up (believe it
or not!).  It's the 1st annual Atascadero Car Auction & Extravaganza put on
by Classic Imports Auctions, Atascadero Chamber of Commerce, and The Downtown
Business Improvement Assoc.
	It's going to be on Saturday May 2nd and Sunday May 3rd at the
Sunken Gardens, 6500 Block El Camino Real, Atascadero.  And previews start
Friday May 1st 9am to 8pm.  Car show is on Sun. at 11.  FREE ADMISSION to
spectators.
	Bring your cars over.  Get as many people as you can to come.  If
a bunch of people come see and bring their cars, even if the show and auction
don't turn out that well it'll still be good.  And even though the more
people that come reduces the buyer's chances for a good deal at the auction,
I hate it when I'm in the dark about shows and auctions.  Hopefully this
will be a good one.  Oh, and even though it's going to be done by Classic
Imports Auctions, all cars are going to be featured from Hot Rods to Antiques.
	BTW, I have no association with any of the above mentioned groups, I
just want to see a lot of neat cars May 2 and 3 and meet the owners of those
cool cars.
	Hope to see you there.

	- Jason - jmansfie@athena.calpoly.edu - The Cadillac Man -

Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: dean@MorningStar.Com (Dean Schell)
Subject: 65 - 67 Mustangs
Organization: Morning Star Technologies
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 12:43:25 GMT

Regarding value of Mustangs or other old cars, I have seen in the bigger
bookstores books that place a value on old or antique cars depending on
the condition they're in.  Where they come up with the number is beyond
me since usually the price that a person is asking includes what he/she
believes it is worth to them.  Another good source is Hemmings Motor
News, available at bookstores, although most of the autos advertised
there seem to be in the $8K and up range.
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: cruise night for visitors to San Diego
From: jmansfie@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jason Mansfield)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 17:38:29 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <1992Apr06.053526.7073@crash.cts.com> donb@crash.cts.com (Donald Bowen) writes:
>
>	There is a monthly listing all automotive events in California.
>It is called Miss Information Calendar of events.  If I can find my last
>issue I will post the address.  I have done the high and low search and 
>turned up nothing.
>
>	DonB

	That's the mag I've got on my desk here.  The editor/publisher is:
			Bobbie'dine Rodda
			1232 Highland Avenue
			Glendale, CA 91202-2027

	- Jason - jmansfie@athena.calpoly.edu - The Cadillac Man -

Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: petel@bucket.rain.com (Pete Lancashire)
Subject: Wanted: Service and Owners manual for Oliver '60' Farm tractor
Organization: Rick's Home-Grown Un*x
Distribution: na
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:47:46 GMT

Restoring an Oliver 60. Need some help on options and need to see
what one looked like when new.

Pete Lancashire
petel@bucket.rain.com

(503) 649-2923 Work
(503) 647-5736 Home
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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique,rec.autos
Subject: Re: Can You Identify this Foreign Car? HILLEMAN
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:29:55 GMT
	<6100@npal.rn.com>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: plind@npal.rn.com's message of 4 Apr 92 20:31:57 GMT

In article <6100@npal.rn.com> plind@npal.rn.com writes:

   My dad  once owned both a Hilleman Imp and a Hilleman Min. I grew up in
   Denmark and remember these cars from my family album. They were build by
   a british company, which later was merged with the British Leyland Group
   (to the best of my knowledge).

They were taken over by Chrysler, and were sold to Peugeot-Citroen when
Chrysler Europe went bust.
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From: uport@netcom.com (Microport)
Subject: Re: Small Spt. Sedans was Re: Can You Identify...
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 92 21:05:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

My family had a number of the cars you mentioned - when I was growing
up in San Jose - it was Prune Valley then not Silicon Valley.  We had
a Hillman, a Singer!, an MG Magnette (beautiful bullseye walnut dash),
a brand new MG TF1500 (1955 I think), A Sunbeam Alpine, A TR2/3 (1956),
an Austin A40, some German cars (356C Porsches) and a few more
I can't remember.  I also remember a guy with a Cunningham used to visit
next door ( he had a Speedster).

My favorite was the Triumph - the doors were so low - you could hang
your arm out the door and skin your knuckles - lots of torque, lots
of noise. I wish I had some of those cars now. That was when
Ferraris were $12,600 NEW - $5000+ used :<  
When I got old enough for a car I ended up with a 1275 Mini Cooper S.
I remember seeing them race at Stockton Airport - they would
lift their back wheel on corners like a dog taking a piss. Anyone
out there go to the races at 17 Mile Drive?? Then Laguna Seca, where
I brought home a 105mm arty projectile.  When I got it home, we shook
it and heard things moving inside. The Fire Dept took it away.


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From: pokey@med.unc.edu (Patrick O'Brien)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Advice on Ford needed
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:54:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Originator: pokey@hasty

I need som advice on what to look for in an old car.  I'm interested in
buying a reliable mid to late 60s convertible not for show but for
everyday driving.  Can anyone give me some suggestions on which models
might be more reliable?  In particular, I'm interested in Fords, and I
have a lead on a 66 Ford Fairlane.  What do people think of this car?  And
what would be a good price on it?  (with an engine & Trans rebuild, some
rust in floor panels & wheel wells)  Thanks for all comments on this.


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