HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mfaurot@phzzzt.uucp (Michael Faurot)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Not enough permissions for root?
Date: 19 Jan 93 22:10:01 GMT
Organization: A.T.W.W.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes:
: 
: I may be confused, but shouldn't 'root' be able to read and see
: ALL files on the system (outside of crypted ones, of course)? 
: Well, when I go into the directory /usr/man/COHERENT my ls
: aborts and says I don't have permissions as root to see any
: files.  When I execute ls from above (usr/man) into that
: directory, it works just fine.  Anyone has an explanation for
: that?  (Yes, I know user bin will work fine).

What's happening is that when you type "ls" from within the directory 
/usr/man/COHERENT the man page file "ls" is being found before the
binary /bin/ls.  If you type /bin/ls from within there this will work
instead.  The same thing will happen if you attempt to change root's
password when logged to the /etc directory and try to run the "passwd"
program.
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| Fleischman:  Ed, are you hallucinating? |    I wanna go home with the      |
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From: stephan@forthdv.rmt.sub.org (Stephan Forth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Strange things...
Keywords: 
Summary: 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: Forthdv
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 10:44:07 GMT

Hi networld,

some strange things happended to my system. In the evenening I polled
as usual. The next time in the morning the core dumped!

After taking a look at the system I found out:

- On a lot of files and directories the owner information was gone!
- the /etc/passwd file contained two blank lines
- all uucp related files and directories had a new owner
  (one of the users of my system)

Big surprise :-((

After removing the blank lines and the user whon now owned all uucp
files and shutting down, rebooting everything was ok again.

Has this happend to anyone else?? I'd like to know what was going
on....

Regards Stephan

--
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Stephan Forth                     stephan@forthdv.rmt.sub.org
Am Schinnergraben 30              
6500 Mainz 42, Germany            voice: +49 6131 504273
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Taylor UUCP GAMMA does not work
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:02:00 GMT
Reply-To: rmkhome!rmk@merk.com (Rick Kelly)

In article <1063574.2B61340A@cmhgate.fidonet.org> Bret.Johnson@p1.f1110.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bret Johnson) writes:
> UM> I'm running Bob's beta-test version of Taylor 1.04-gamma here and I don't
> UM> have this problem.
>
> I too am running it but after runing it for a while UUX died!
>
> I can not send any mail to Bob H. to tell him and when I call MWC 
> the lady tells me he is out sick!!
>
>I tried reinstalling the 1.03 and it still did not work!
>
>Also, tried Coh65 and Coh70 Kernal

I'm running Bob's Taylor 1.04gamma, but I built it from his sources with
libc.a from the original 4.0 distribution.  It seems to be working fine,
except that the interrupt latency problems with the Adaptec SCSI seem to
be exaggerated.  I guess I'll have to relink it with the libc.a that came
with the 70 kernel and see what happens.

-- 

Rick Kelly    rmkhome!rmk@merk.com    merk!rmkhome!rmk    rmk@frog.UUCP
From: magus@DRKTOWR.CHI.IL.US (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: wnews questions
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:59:05 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

Marcelo Gallardo (marcelo@deadzone.princeton.edu) wrote:

:       I just installed wnews and afetr dumping some news to it i found
:       the following message (repeated numerous times) in the errlog
:       file...
:       ng junk not localized, article is lost
:       Can someone give me a hint as to what to do.

su news
cd /usr/lib/news
newgroup junk
<CR>
Junk heap
<CR>


(Note: <CR> means hit return on a blank line)

This is also a handy way to add newsgroups by hand.   Just do

newgroup <name of group>
<CR>
<Description of newsgroup>
<CR>

:       Thanks in advance.
:       Marcelo -

You're welcome!  This is not an error per se.  Junk holds all the news
that get shipped to your system that you don't want.  For example,
say you get alt.hackers and an article is cross-posted to alt.hackers
and alt.hackers.destructive.  You don't get alt.hackers.destructive, so
1 copy goes into alt.hackers and 1 copy goes into junk.

You don't need junk if you don't want it.  I have it so I can
easily monitor what's being thrown away (by reading newsgroup junk).

-Louis

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   -sysadmin drktowr       ! magus@gagme.chi.il.us    (forwards to above)
   Chicago, IL  USA        ! lgilibe@math.luc.edu     (probably OK)
Home of DarkTower Software ! lgilibe@orion.it.luc.edu (anal-retentive ACS
                           !      machine with quotas - don't bother)
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"Try his first wife's maiden name backwards" -- Cheshire Catalyst
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From: fredex@fcshome.UUCP (fred smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Working with the PC's hardware clock
Keywords: coherent clock time cmos
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:47:15 GMT
Organization: What?!? Absolutely none!

Coherent (at 4.0, anyway) has a program named ATclock which reads/sets
the PC's hardware clock.

Can anyone tell me if there is an accessible system service (or library
function) that performs the low-level access to the clock, and if so,
what it is? If not, does anybody know HOW to do it? (in a manner that
is portable to different machines all running Coherent, I mean!).

Thanks,

Fred
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From: johnch@test22.sun.com (Sam the Skank from Geezer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Home mapping in Stevie
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:47:44
Organization: Impossible Missions Force
NNTP-Posting-Host: test22
In-reply-to: bill@twinbrk.uucp's message of 5 Jan 93 02:08:53 GMT


   Tony Porczyk (messina@netcom.com) wrote:
   :
   : Hi there,
   :
   : Please disregard my previous post about MicroEMACS.  I decided it will

PLEASE DISREGARD MicroEMACS!!!! If it's anything like the DOS or Amiga
versions, it is not worth spending valuable seconds of your time on
earth to type the command.  Both of these versions have extremely
annoying brain-dead limitations, and real GNU ports are available for
both environments.  AAAAAAAAUUUUGGHH!

Sorry, I don't know what came over me . . . .

-- John C
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: d10590@tanus.oz.au (Robert Chalmers)
Subject: AUNET
Organization: Pro-Net Australia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 12:05:07 GMT

It may be of interest to people on this side of the Pacific that AUNR\
AUNET will be on line this year. Operates on the same lines as UUNET, and the
sme fees I believe. Hpo\ Hope it works ok, as connecton to the internet et al
is very difficult out here.
Bob


........if youthink education is expensive, try ignorance.
_________________________________________________________________________
|Robert Chalmers. d10590@tanus.oz.au       Mackay, Queensland. Australia|
|APCUG nanguo!root   (AUS)               UUCP mwcbbs!nanguo!earth  (USA)|
|---------------------* ao zhong youyi wan sui *------------------------|
|  UUCP nanguo!root  +61  79-521070 AEST:24 Hours. in:nuucp rd:uupublic |
|  MYNAME=bbsuser   ~/INFO   Australian-Pacific Coherent User Group     |
|-----------------------------------------------------------------------|
From: LISTSERV@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (Revised List Processor, 1.7e)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Your subscription to list COHERENT
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:49:48 GMT
Reply-To: COHERENT-Request@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU

Dear networker,

  Your  subscription to  list  COHERENT (Coherent  operating  system) has  been
accepted.

  Note: your distribution options have been  defaulted as per the "SET COHERENT
REPRO SHORTBSMTP" command.

  You may leave the list at any time by sending a "SIGNOFF COHERENT" command to
LISTSERV@INDYCMS.BITNET (or LISTSERV@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU).  Please note that this
command must  NOT be  sent to  the list address  (COHERENT@INDYCMS) but  to the
LISTSERV address (LISTSERV@INDYCMS).

  The  amount of  acknowledgement  you  wish to  receive  from  this list  upon
completion of a  mailing operation can be  changed by means of  a "SET COHERENT
option" command,  where "option"  may be  either "ACK"  (mail acknowledgement),
"MSGACK" (interactive messages only) or "NOACK".

  Contributions sent to this list are  automatically archived. You can obtain a
list of the  available archive files by sending an  "INDEX COHERENT" command to
LISTSERV@INDYCMS.BITNET (or  LISTSERV@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU). These files  can then
be  retrieved by  means of  a  "GET COHERENT  filetype" command,  or using  the
database search  facilities of  LISTSERV. Send an  "INFO DATABASE"  command for
more information on the latter.

  Please note that  it is presently possible for anybody  to determine that you
are  signed up  to the  list through  the use  of the  "REVIEW" command,  which
returns the network address and name of all the subscribers. If you do not wish
your name to be available to others in this fashion, just issue a "SET COHERENT
CONCEAL" command.

  More information on LISTSERV commands can  be found in the LISTSERV reference
card,  which  you  can  retrieve  by  sending  an  "INFO  REFCARD"  command  to
LISTSERV@INDYCMS.BITNET (or LISTSERV@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU).

Virtually,

   The LISTSERV management
From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: How can I remove virtual consoles?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: DarkTower Software
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 20:47:00 CST

fred smith (fredex@fcshome.UUCP) wrote:

: What I fail to comprehend is why you would want FEWER login devices
: available.

Less memory usage.  Each tty needs a getty spawned off of init.  If
you don't use them, why have them? Most people like you and I want
more than four, but a casual user might just want 1 or 2.

-Louis

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   -sysadmin drktowr       !   "I had an account at school, but the
   Chicago, IL  USA        !    quota was 300K - what's the point?
Home of DarkTower Software !    One Madonna .gif and it's over!"
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"Try his first wife's maiden name" -- Cheshire Catalyst
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From: stephan@FORTHDV.RMT.SUB.ORG (Stephan Forth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Strange things...
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:44:07 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

Hi networld,

some strange things happended to my system. In the evenening I polled
as usual. The next time in the morning the core dumped!

After taking a look at the system I found out:

- On a lot of files and directories the owner information was gone!
- the /etc/passwd file contained two blank lines
- all uucp related files and directories had a new owner
  (one of the users of my system)

Big surprise :-((

After removing the blank lines and the user whon now owned all uucp
files and shutting down, rebooting everything was ok again.

Has this happend to anyone else?? I'd like to know what was going
on....

Regards Stephan

--
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Stephan Forth                     stephan@forthdv.rmt.sub.org
Am Schinnergraben 30
6500 Mainz 42, Germany            voice: +49 6131 504273
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: zjoc01@hou.amoco.com (Jack O. Coats)
Subject: Symbolic Links
Reply-To: zjoc01@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:42:41 GMT

Is it possible to use symbolic links under Coherent?  I follow the same procedures I use on other systems and it doesn't seem to work for me.  Or did I just miss it when I read the manual somewhere? .. Thnks ... Jack
From: mcb@presto.ig.com (Michael C. Berch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,rec.games.backgammon,comp.soft-sys.nextstep,comp.unix.solaris,comp.os.msdos.4dos
Subject: Problem with mail/Usenet gateway
Date: 29 Jan 93 01:44:49 GMT
Organization: IntelliGenetics, Inc., Mountain View, California USA

Dear list subscribers and Usenet readers:

There sems to be a problem with the news to mail gateway at
net.bio.net (which replaced the gateway at presto.ig.com), causing an
extra copy of Usenet messages to be posted when passing through the
gateway.  This only happens in the Usenet to BITNET direction. 

This affects the following groups/lists:

Usenet newsgroup		Mailing list

comp.os.coherent 		COHERENT@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
talk.politics.soviet 		TPS-L@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
soc.culture.soviet 		SCS-L@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
rec.games.backgammon 		BKGAMMON@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
comp.soft-sys.nextstep 		NEXTSTEP@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
comp.unix.solaris 		SOLARIS@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU
comp.os.msdos.4dos 		JPSOFT@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU

We are trying to debug the problem and hope to have it cleared up very
soon.

Apologies for the inconvenience,
--
Michael C. Berch  
Gateway admin
mcb@presto.ig.com / mcb@net.bio.net / mcb@postmodern.com
From: kkress@phent.UUCP (Kenneth R. Kress)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Explanation of mwcbbs listing (which follows)
Keywords: mwcbbs file listing
Organization: That's Entertainment BBS
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 21:50:08 EST

	I've posted reformatted versions of the Contents files on
mwcbbs as of 1/24/93. They are in /rdb form and sorted by date
beginning with the most recent. They can be searched easily with 
awk or grep. 
E.g.,
contents.awk "^tin" < 32bit.contents produces:

Filename: tin118.zip
Date: 930105
Size: 349942
Description: newreader package
Notes: none
Requirements:  none

Filename: tin117.tar.Z
Date: 921210
Size: 331635
Description: Updated tin newsreader from version 1.16
Notes: none
Requirements:  none

cat contents.awk produces:

#!/bin/sh
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
#		NAME: contents.awk
#		COPYRIGHT: Copyright 1992 Kenneth R. Kress
#		USAGE: "USAGE: $0 pattern < file"
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
USAGE="USAGE: $0 pattern < file"

# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
#		DESCRIPTION:
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
# contents.awk - reads a table with columns
# 	file	date	size	description	notes	requirements
#	and returns lines matching the pattern. The output format
#	includes descriptive labels and fields are separated by
# 	newlines; records are terminated by a blank line.


# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
#		TRAP:
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
TMP=/tmp				# modify to suit

echo "$USAGE" > $TMP/$$tmp		# so trap has something to remove
trap "rm -f $TMP/$$*" 0 1 2 3 15


# #####################################################################	#
#		CODE BEGINS						#
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#

awk '
BEGIN {
	FS = "\t"
	ONE = "Filename:"
	TWO = "Date:"
	THREE = "Size:"
	FOUR = "Description:"
	FIVE = "Notes:" 
	SIX = "Requirements: "
}
/'"$1"'/ {
	print ""		# blank line between records
	print ONE, $1
	print TWO, $2
	print THREE, $3
	print FOUR, $4
	print FIVE, $5
	print SIX, $6
}'

# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#
# 		CLEAN EXIT
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------	#

exit 0

===================================================================
Ken Kress, Glenside, PA * dsinc!phent!kkress 
	Daring ideas are like chessmen moved forward;
	they may be beaten, but they may start a winning game.
					Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
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From: jdb@ERATO.IOWA-CITY.IA.US ("John D. Boggs")
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: who to protect private mail ??
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:30:31 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

From article <930126714@jester.GUN.de>, by michael@jester.GUN.de (Michael
 Gerhards):
>
> Is it possible to change the permissions [on mailboxes] to 620, set mail
> setgid bin and change all files in /usr/spool/mail to group bin ?

I just changed my mailboxes to have  -rw------- permissions, and all is
well.  Only I can read or change my mail, and it doesn't seem to interfere
with delivery at all.

-John D. Boggs     jdb@erato.iowa-city.ia.us
                   or    ...!uunet!erato!jdb
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: gaede@faw.uni-ulm.de (Volker Gaede)
Subject: Re: Processing texinfo files (how?)
Organization: FAW (Research Institute For Applied Knowledge Processing, Ulm, Germany)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:00:40 GMT

In article <9301212024@reseau.rd.macrofield.or.jp>, kenji@reseau.rd.macrofield.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake) writes:
|> Volker Gaede (gaede@faw.uni-ulm.de) wrote:
|> : Come on. Your anwers are contraproductive (this one and the one before).
|> : Have you got a TeX runnung under Coherent? I would state not.
|> 
|> Well, if you're running Coherent on an IBM PC (what else?), you can
|> use emTeX or other MS-DOS-ported TeX/LaTeX programs.
|> And Coherent can get access to MS-DOS file systems.
|> 

The question was bound to the Coherent System. There are a lot of Coherent
users which do their text processing under MSDOS/OS2 with programs like
Word and have got no EmTex installed. The original question was:
	How to process texinfo-Files *under Coherent*?
And in this context your answer(s) are not very useful (the later solution
with *roff* was it, just to make the difference clear). 

That Coherent can access DOS-Partitions is common knowledge but Coherent 
can not execute programs DOS-Programs, esp. not EmTex. 
And even if you try to process the texinfo-files under EmTex (and DOS/OS2)
you might run into some other problems. So the knowledge of some TeX-Books might
not help :-{.
You got what I mean?

But I think lets stop here. And the advise for the future should be:
		Think, before posting.

	Volker


------------------------------+-------------+----------------------
Volker Gaede                  +   \\\|//    + Tant d'histoire pour 
                              +   |o o |    + rien de tout.
gaede@main01.rz.uni-ulm.de    +  O| L  |D   + 
gaede@faw9370.faw.uni-ulm.de  +   |\_/ |    +
gaede@faw.uni-ulm.de          +   \___/     + 
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From: stephan@forthdv.rmt.sub.org (Stephan Forth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Not enough permissions for root?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: Forthdv
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 08:24:59 GMT

Louis Giliberto (magus@drktowr.chi.il.us) wrote:

: I had the reverse problem when I compiled a program.  It was a tiny
: piece of junk so I called it "test".  Big mistake.  I kept running
: it and was wondering why it would do absolutely nothing.  For 3 hours.
: Then I realized that there is a "/bin/test" and it was executing
: that (/bin is in my path before .). duh.  I had to watch cartoons for
: 2 hours before I was stable again =Bp

Funny, same happend to me. But as a UNIX novice I searched the mistake
a little longer.... :-)) And after it I needed harder stuff than a 
cartoon...thanks to me girl-friend there was some beer in the fridge....

Regards Stephan
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Stephan Forth                     stephan@forthdv.rmt.sub.org
Am Schinnergraben 30              
6500 Mainz 42, Germany            voice: +49 6131 504273
From: stephan@forthdv.rmt.sub.org (Stephan Forth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: wnews 3.1 error
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Organization: Forthdv
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 13:59:11 GMT

Hi networld,

thanks for all who sent me mail and follow-ups. I sorted the active file
and all trouble is gone :-))

Regards Stephan
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Stephan Forth                     stephan@forthdv.rmt.sub.org
Am Schinnergraben 30              
6500 Mainz 42, Germany            voice: +49 6131 504273
From: sje@XYLOS.MA30.BULL.COM ("Steven J. Edwards")
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Fun with the HP LJ4: pr, hp, lpr, hpr
Date: 29 Jan 93 00:24:56 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@INDYCMS.bitnet>

The text page formatters pr and hp along with the spoolers lpr and hpr
do not always appear to work as expected.  I am using Coherent 4.0 on
a 486DX box with an HP LJ4 (6 Mbyte memory, standard PCL 5) hooked up
via a parallel interface on /dev/lp.

For example, the use of lpr and hpr should be roughly the same for
text files.  However, hpr does not issue a final formfeed (0x0c) so
the chances are about 59 in 60 that manual intevention is needed to
eject the last page.  Failure to do so causes the next print job to
start immediately after the privous one on the same page.

As reported before, I've also had some printing problems with the
example troff document given in the troff man pages.  The sequence

.sp |8i
.ps 500
.ce
E

which is supposed to make a rather large letter "E", appears to work
with hpr (I think there's an hp filter prior to the hpr).  However,
using lpr fails with two blank pages ejected from the printer.  The
printer is using only factory default modes and the troff is
generating PCL (not Postscript) as output.

Have any other Coherent users had much experience with the more recent
HP Laserjets?  I use HP LJ IIIDs here at work and I would like to have
print files at home in the same style.  (Or even better because it's
600 dpi.)  I do not (yet) have the Postscript upgrade.  For those with
Postscript printers connected to their Coherent systems, what is the
collective experience with the Postscript option for troff output?

 [The above opinions expressed are my own; not necessarily held by others.]
      == Steven J. Edwards           Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
      == (508) 294-3484              300 Concord Road         MS 820A ==
      == sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com     Billerica, MA 01821          USA ==
"That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: ksh@hobbes.ds.boeing.com (K. Scott Hunziker)
Subject: Re: scsi disk throughput
Organization: Boeing Defense & Space Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:02:07 GMT

Scot Silverstein MD (silver@news.ycc.yale.edu) wrote:
: I'm thinking of investing in a SCSI hard drive to
: replace my IDE.  Has anyone run iozone or similar program
: under COHERENT 4.0.1 using a SCSI drive?  What kind of
: results do you get?

You won't like the results.  I get 80kB/sec at best.

--

Scott Hunziker
ksh@hobbes.ds.boeing.com