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From: Joe.Bethancourt@f72.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: "break the law"(3 of
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 19 Nov 92  08:42:00

 -=> Harold Feld said to All on 11-15-92  12:05 <=-

 HF> I like the response format, especially if the songs both
 HF> clearly reference the previous songs and can stand on their
 HF> own.  Has anyone else ever engaged in this sort of musical
 HF> back-and-forth before?

Heheheh! Yup! I did with Bob Asprin in our SCA personas for some years
before we even -met- each other.....lemme see....my answer to the "Streets
of Ann Arbor" song went like this:

                     THE STREETS OF ANN ARBOR
                                -Ioseph of Locksley
                     (c) 1974, 1990 W. J. Bethancourt III
                     (Tune: "Streets of Laredo")

         As I walked out thru the streets of Ann Arbor
         as I walked out thru Ann Arbor one day
         I spied a young Mongol all dressed in white linen
         all dressed in white linen and cold as the clay

         I then spied another, done in on the sidewalk
         along with just about six dozen more
         their wounds were all gaping, from mace and from broadsword
         from claymore and cannon, all dripping with gore

         what caused this grave carnage, I cried to the Monglos
         oh pray what's the reason for this awful sight
         my answer came slowly from under the corpse-pile
         "It seems that our bark is much worse than our bite....."

         the answer continued from pale lips a-shaking
         we sang all our songs and believed them as true
         the Dark Horde could never be beaten in battle
         we thought this was what all good Mongols could do...

         we went down to Atenveldt all for to plunder
         "too large to defend" was our song every night
         but Atenveldt's different from East, West or Middle
         there, even the bushes have learned how to bite!

         the Clann stole our ponies, the Scraelings our foodstuffs
         we ran into axes in AtenViking hands
         our maidens ran off with one Richard of Arkham
         and we're all that's left to return to our lands

         MacChluarains and Monsters, Lockehaven and Foxmoor
         that Kingdom is BIG and its' fighters are MEAN!
         we fought and we lost, and fled back to Ann Arbor
         we all came back home with results that you've seen

         keep away from that Land with its' cactus and marshes
         it's no place for Mongols who are bent on War
         they count their blows well, but they strike them yet better
         he crawled into his Yurt, and fell, dead, on the floor.....



... How many Borg does it take to screw in a lightbulb? All of them.


--- WM v2.04/92-0475
From: Gerald.Bliss@f281.n120.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: OVFF
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov  5 1992
Date: 12 Nov 92  20:19:00

It was a pleasure meeting you.  I've been getting an occasional filk you 
wrote or contributed to every now and then, and really needed that line 
from "The Band Played During Our Filksing"; thank you for that, too! 
 
I heard that you had a book published (in the context it was said, I 
presumed a filk book).  If this is true, please snailmail me information 
on where to get it (or how much you charge); I remember you said that 
you could read but not post at your present feed. 
 
My address is: 
 
Gerald Bliss 
29016 Tessmer Cat 
Madison Heights, MI  48071 
 
... OFFLINE 1.39 * I work out at the He's Dead Gym 

--- DCQwk/T.A.G.  1.4a
From: Richard.Sarner@f236.n271.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Tidewater Filk!!!!!!!!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:33:00 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992

SD-> The William and Mary science fiction club is going to try to sponsor
SD-> filksing in the next couple of weeks, on campus at W&M.  We're
SD-> looking to see if there are any folks in the tidewater area that
SD-> up at (804) 229-1547 if you are at all interested in getting a   
  I'll be calling! Possibly Bettie DenDekker of Time Machine. The Filk at
Sci-Con was scheduled Friday night ( I missed it) and hapened Sat night in the 
hall by the huckster room about 11pm. Almost all folk, but there was a little 
filk about 2 am. Previous years had a merchant slling some filk books and
tapes, but she was not there.
  
  BTW, where are you posting from? Internet? The FILK echo is available in
Fido through Va Data Exchange 877-3539.
    ...Richard

--- FMail 0.90
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Subject: Re: New from Saint Iggy! 
Distribution: world
Organization: Keristor Systems
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90c (ka9q DIS 1.18, CC 1.18c)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:55:27 +0000


In article <n0ecft@ofa123.fidonet.org> Gerald.Bliss@f281.n120.z1.fidonet.org writes:

>WARNING:  ARGO ALERT!  PUN ALERT!  HORRIBLE SCANSION ALERT!
>
>             Then We Scanned Key Largo Just For Puns...
>                          R. I. Benefiche, c. 1992

ROFL!  You said "Reprinted by permission" - who do I ask for permission
to put it on my mailserver?

Chris

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From: Mike.Liebmann@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Clarifications
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov  5 1992
Date: 14 Nov 92 07:36:48

Mark, I guess I could be classified as a "performance" filker (Mary???). 
 I know I'm not up there with Joey Shoji (same vocal range, sorta), 
but I've been told that over the 8 years I've been in filking, my voice has
improved (including by Leslie, no less!).  Yet, there are people who won't
even give me the chance to sing because they still think of me by my bad
reputation from years back, when I was what they would have considered an
overenthusiastic, overebullient (sp?) neo who didn't know better.  At that
point, no one took me aside and tried to "set me right;" as a result, I guess 
I sort of foundered for quite a while, and have been paying for it ever since.
 
I get the impression I could become the best voice in filkdom, but the
"elitists" would never know it because they go their own way and stay within
their own little clique, which I can understand a bit better now, but as I
said, they will not hear of the hot new up-and-coming people who could easily 
eclipse them.
 
One other point, as an example, backing up: I've been told by some people that 
Cindy McQuillin has been offended by some of my singing from several years
back.  YET, she's never told me this to my face, and I don't really have the
guts to ask her or confront her.  However, Kathy Mar has come out once, after 
a long chaos where a lot of the people who sang were filkhogging (mostly the
BNF's) and when I said something to the effect that I had been there for 4-1/2 
hours and had a "song at the ready," after performing it, she called me an
a**hole. She also is the reason I've not written any filks since 1987 or so,
because she didn't like one I wrote and told me in a tone which I took to
mean, "I think it'd be better that you never try writing filk lyrics again."  
I've had a block ever since, and have had not even a little piece of
inspiration.
 
Now can you understand what's happening? 

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From: Suzanne.Buck@f12.n312.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: We're Baaaaaaaaaaack!
Date: 8 Nov 92 02:45:23 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992


 FE> After a short, one month absent...
 FE> RANDOM LUNACY IS BACK!!!!!!!!!
 FE> and it's GREAT to be here!

Yippee wahoo!!!!

Sorry, a bit carried away there.




--- Blue Wave/TG v2.10 [NR]
From: Mary.Creasey@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Smothers
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov  5 1992
Date: 14 Nov 92 15:17:16

They were Tom & Dick; that's why he's Harry!


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From: Deborah.Weiss@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Mark Lewis Concert in Los Angeles, CA
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:34:54

For all you storytelling fans in Los Angeles & related zones, Mark Lewis will 
be performing at CSU Long Beach.  Details as follows:
 
        Live In Concert!
 
        Mark W. Lewis & Goode Company
        at CSU Long Beach
        Sunday, December 6, 1992
        Studio Theatre Dept. of Theatre ARts
 
        2 Shows!  4:00 PM & 7:00 PM
        Adults:  $8.00
        Children under 12:  $5.00
 
        Tickets at the door
        or
        Dragon's Breath store in Del Amo Fashion Center, Torrance
        310/371-2599
 
Having *experienced* Mark at the 1992 Dulcimer Festival, I *strongly*
recommend his performances.  If you can't make his concert(s), get his video
at Dragon's Breath.
P.S.  Mark Lewis now lives in Oregon somewhere, so his appearance in the LA
area is a real treat!  Enjoy!


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From: Tony.Jordan@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Looking for a song
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 18 Nov 92  21:07:34

        I'm looking for the words to "Music, Sex, and Cookies"  I heard
This song at a campout and sang it with my friends for eight hours straight
on the car trip home.  Then I got out of the car, stretched, and forgot the
song!  I remember that the chorus went something like:

        "I've tried therapy, and LSD,
        I've been lost and now I'm found,
        But it's music, sex, and cookies,
        That makes my world go 'round."

        "Music, sex, and cookies,
        Cookies, music, sex,
        It don't matter which order you try 'em
        I like 'em all the best"

        (First verse actually goes here, not where it is)  [oops]

                Please help.  Thanks.
                        Tony Jordan


--- Maximus 2.01wb
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Christine Lavin parodies
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:45:09 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

markb@puck (Mark Bernstein) writes:

-> : Christine seemed impressed and flattered when I showed her the parodies
-> 
-> Christine came to the Ark in Ann Arbor (as she does about twice a year) last
-> year.  On impulse, I mailed her a copy of the pun c/o the Ark a week or so 
-> before the concert.  Sharon and I went to the first concert Friday night.
-> She pulled out the letter (which I later learned had been handed to her about
-> fifteen minutes before she went on) and sang the verse.  That pun is now the
-> only thing I've ever written that's been performed professionally. (BIG :-))

I've seen Christine several times and she seems to take great joy in
performing songs or presenting items sent to her by fans.  Perhaps
someone could get her schedule and attempt to setup a filk while
she's in their town.


   \|/  Eoin   eoin@xocolatl.com   *
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PS:  Hey Jordan you gonna tell us about performing with Christine?


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From: Scott.Malcomson@f110.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: calls & cadences
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 19 Nov 92  11:55:00

 Dave Aronson denied allegations of involvement with Kay Shapero over calls & 
cadences:

 DA> Then there's the ones on the ads for Comedy Central's "Comedy Boot
 DA> Camp" contest.  Actually, the only one really USED on the ad is "I
 DA> don't know but I hear tell, knock-knock jokes don't do real well" but

Hmmm...lemme see if I can recall a few more from my smArmy daze...


MP, MP, don't arrest me
Arrest that sergeant behind that tree
He stole the whiskey, I stole the wine
And now he's got me at the double-time

One, two, three an' a-quarter
I got caught sleepin' with th' general's daughter
They're takin' me out to th' firin' squad
An' I never even got to touch her bod

I wanna be an armor crewman
Livin' a life that's DAMN near human
We think airborne rangers suck
Pick up a ranger an' stuff 'im in yer ruck

Crunchy, crunchy, is the sound
Of grunts in my sprockets goin' round and round

Shoot, move, an' communicate (BOOM BOOM)
Shoot, move, an' communicate (BOOM BOOM)

If I die on the ol' drop zone
Bag me up an' send me home
Tell my girl I did my best
Bury me in the leaning rest


Howzat?


---LCD


... Resistance Is Useless!   (If < 1 ohm)
--- Blue Wave/QBBS v2.10
From: Gerald.Bliss@f281.n120.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Neo Vs. Ego
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 15 Nov 92  09:33:00

 On 11-11-92 John Creasey wrote to All... 
 
 JC> Guest Post by Leslie Fish********************** 
 
 JC>      I know, I know, the Bardic has two problems: in a large circle 
 JC> each person gets maybe one turn an hour, and it's hard to sustain a 
 JC> mood against the inexorable machinery of the system.  Well, there are 
 JC> two solutions for that: use the Lee Gold Poker-Chip variant (I take it 
 JC> everyone's heard of that), or ask to cut in with a "follower" or take 
 JC> your turn out-of-turn and let the others vote on it.  Problems 
 JC> inherent 
 JC> in group-size can be handled if the system has this kind of 
 JC> flexibility. 
 
Sorry, no, not everyone has heard of the Lee Gold Poker-Chip variant. 
 
Heck, out here the local pagans haven't even heard of Gwydion.  I played 
"We Won't Wait Any Longer" at a 300th Memorial Service for the victims 
of Salem and people were essentially dragging their jaws on the ground! 
 
Folk sure are strange out here in the Midwest...  Excuse me, I want a 
refund.  I'd like my original scenery back, please... 
 
... OFFLINE 1.39 * Joan of Arc is alive and medium-well. 

--- DCQwk/T.A.G.  1.4a
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Myth Debunking, blah, blah...
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:56:15 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

bard@spuddy.uucp (Mike Whitaker) writes:

-> I plead guilt to neglect at WorldCon. My heavy social schedule did include a
-> promise to Eli to show him "Skybound blues", but it never happened due mostly
-> to Anne landing me with other engagements (that's my future wife!).. e.g. we'

I'd <thwap> you for that one, but I'm not sure it was intentional.  :)

For those of you who don't know, Mike and Anne were engaged on their
last visit to the states.

Also, while shopping in FLA Anne found a wedding dress she loved.  This
this set Mike off of on a long techie way of getting a picture of it
home to her mother for approval.

Speaking of which, did she ever buy that dress?

-> out to dinner with Bill Sutton 2note.. you did remember we promised to help B
-> with the Wailsongs stall... etcetc

SOP for WorldCon.

See ya next year.

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From: UUCP@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: OVFF
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:48:46 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992

From: eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu 
From  ucivax!po3.andrew.cmu.edu!andrew.cmu.edu!eg1n+

[Gerald Bliss Posts...]

>Send replys to: Gerald.Bliss@f281.n120.z1.fidonet.org


>It was a pleasure meeting you.  I've been getting an occasional filk you
>wrote or contributed to every now and then, and really needed that line
>from "The Band Played During Our Filksing"; thank you for that, too!

>I heard that you had a book published (in the context it was said, I
>presumed a filk book).  If this is true, please snailmail me information
>on where to get it (or how much you charge); I remember you said that
>you could read but not post at your present feed.
>My address is:

>Gerald Bliss
>29016 Tessmer Cat
>Madison Heights, MI  48071


Gerald,

    Giving _some_ clue as to whom you are talking to might make this
message a bit more comprehensible for the rest of us on the net.. ;-)
(grin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: rafe@cix.compulink.co.uk (Rafe Culpin)
Subject: Re: Pentatonic
Reply-To: rafe@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:57:00 +0000

Some more details on Pentatonic:

The membership, currently UKP18, goes up to UKP20 as from 1st
January. On-the-door rate not yet decided, probably higher.

Payment in US$: I checked with Roger - he can't give a fixed
conversion rate because it's changing too fast - best bet is to
contact the convention and ask for the current rate.

Deborah, I just got the latest TFT - thanks. Did my address mod get
lost along with the Pentatonic details? That's 'Walthamstow' with a w
on the end in the sub list, the Filker's Directory and the Filksings
listing (sorry about my terrible handwriting B-) )

If anyone is coming over for Pentatonic, please note that the London
filkers' social meeting is the Friday before (29th Jan) and the main
London fan meeting is the day before the con (Thursday 4th Feb). The
venues for both might change, so contact me for details nearer the
time - I'll post them here as well.

Please help keep up the tradition of foreign walk-ins at British filk
cons. All the annual British cons have had at least one American
walk-in, and when we held a mini filk con a couple of months ago we
got some Australian walk-ins!


Rafe
From: Joi.Ball@f207.n271.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Phone Filk
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov  5 1992
Date: 12 Nov 92  22:31:00

* In a message originally to maryanne g wolf, Scott Fridenberg said:
 > Ok,  How many people have filk on their answering machine?

I made up this one, a rap-type piece, but my husband wouldn't let me use it.
(He said if any of the calls were for him, he'd be embarressed to death. Stick 
in the mud!)

I want to thank you all
For giving us a call,
But I'm sorry, Jack,
I'll have to call you back!
Can't talk to you now,
But leave a message anyhow
And I'll call you back,
Uh-huh, I'll call you back.
So remember, now,
If you want me to phone
You gotta leave your name and number
At the sound of the tone.

On my machine, that takes exactly the right number of seconds for the beep to 
be right after the word TONE.

--- GEcho 1.00/beta
From: Scott.Malcomson@f110.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Jeff Hancock
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 19 Nov 92  12:50:00

 Kihe Blackeagle denied allegations of involvement with All_&_sundry over Re: 
Jeff Hancock:

 KB> No, we ARE the Pride of Chanur!

Luv it! BTW, Thorfinn Halfblind sez to say "Hi, and it's a long way from Deus
Ex Machina"!

---LCD


... When Polly's in trouble I am not slow... it's Hip Hip Hip & away I go!
--- Blue Wave/QBBS v2.10
From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: calls & cadences
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 19 Nov 92  09:38:52

On <Nov 14 18:47>, Scott Malcomson (1:114/110) wrote to Kay Shapero:

 SM>"I thought I'd joined the Armor Corps,
 SM> So what th' hell are we runnin' for?!"   <---my personal 
 SM>favorite ;)

Ah, yes... and

"If I had a low IQ
I would be a gyrene too
Sound OFF!" 

--- msged 2.06
From: Mary.Creasey@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Huh????
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:32:24

That's Marilyn MILLER--and she DOES have a gorgeous soprano, up
in the Ecklar/Prather[Aislinn] category.


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From: hjfeld@acs.bu.edu (harold feld)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: "Break The Law"(3 of 2)
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:05:05 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Well, I sang "Targets No More" for Leslie at the Magicon filk
(I think Saturday night).  As you might imagine, she liked it,
so I think we've pretty much ended that little debate.

I like the response format, especially if the songs both
clearly reference the previous songs and can stand on their
own.  Has anyone else ever engaged in this sort of musical
back-and-forth before?

Harold Feld
From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Myth Debunking 201, part 1 of 2
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov  5 1992
Date: 14 Nov 92  13:05:10

On <Nov 11 12:52>, Eli Brian Goldberg <eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu>, wrote to Kay
Shapero:

> 
>Eli; judging at least by personal experience this is not exactly the case.
>What talent DOES appear to consist of is not experience at all; it's the
>ability to learn the skill in question relatively easily, and to enjoy the
>process.  I think I can claim to have a talent for singing.  But my

 U>Interestingly, Kay, I've had the exact opposite experience as a 
 U>guitarist.  
 U>To be blunt, my first year or so was complete _hell_; I recall 

 U>And, since around Octoberish last year, I have enjoyed playing 
 U>the guitar
 U>considerably more and seem to have things continue to "teach 
 U>themselves"
 U>to me, if that makes any sense.

There's an old saying "genius is 10% inspiration, 90% perspiration".  You have 
NOT had the "opposite experience", you have merely proved to your own
satisfaction at the very least that sufficient dedication can enable you to do 
what you truly want to do whether you found it easy to do or not.  If I
seriously wanted to be an artist and focused all of my attentions on learning 
and practicing until I felt like my fingers were falling off, I suspect I'd be 
able to at least draw reasonably well within a few years.  The fact that I
have not merely means I haven't wanted to badly enough to put out the effort, 
when contrasted with something I enjoy doing so much that I have done it all
the time since I was small.

I still would not call talent "experience", merely a factor that makes it
easier TO acquire experience.  There may be some things no amount of practice 
will help (at 5'2" I doubt all the practice in the WORLD would make me a top
basketball star...), but persistance can indeed make up for a lot. 

--- msged 2.06
From: John.Creasey@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Math skills
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:12:03

Leslie states that her higher math skills are lacking due to her music
skills are so developed. She also stated that the only way she passed
chemistry in college was to swear to the instructor that she is an
Art/English major and would NEVER take any more science courses.
Well- at least that is what she said.


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Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA