From: mykes@shell.portal.com (mike myke schwartz)
Subject: Re: Prediction: Rush Limbaugh has hit his peak; He will
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:16:08 GMT

christopher stone (cstone@husc8.harvard.edu) wrote:
: In article <schlegel.724352440@cwis> schlegel@cwis.unomaha.edu (Mark Schlegel) writes:
: >prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
: >
: >>I see myself as a bleeding-heart liberal, but I used to love listening
: >>to Rush Limbaugh's punchy right-wing rhetoric. No more! He now comes
: >>across as an issue-less cry baby. For a guy of his type to e popular,
: >>there must be an enemy. Clinton, by virtue of his middle-of-the-road
: >>approach, is not a good target. Rush, all of a sudden, sounds vacuous
: >>and stupid.
: >
: > How is Clinton "middle-of-the-road"?  That's an example of how he's fooled
: > the people and the press.  He's not a centrist or a moderate, he's a 
: > total liberal.
: >
: I would like to see your evidence on this -- direct evidence, policy-wise,
: that he is a Liberal.  I will furnish some evidence he is a centrist.
: 1) He supports NAFTA; 2) He did not outright oppose the Gulf War (see below)
: 3) supports a capital-gains like tax cut for business under certain
: circumstances 4) supports the death penalty...need I go on?

1) NAFTA only with environmental restrictions, which will severely limit the
effectiveness of NAFTA.  The whole purpose of NAFTA is to export low wage
jobs to Mexico which can use the jobs in the first place.  A couple of decades
ago, Japanese workers made incredibly low wages and japanese businesses grew.
After a period of growth, wages rose to the point where japan had to export
the low paying jobs to korea and other pacific rim nations.  Those nations
are seeing wage increases also.  We've had similar experience here.  As the
afluency of the workforce increases, the nations end up becoming more and more
environmentally conscious.  Japan today is one of the heaviest investors in
environmentally safe technology.  Unfortunately, you can't make a revolution
out of evolution.

2) got any more humor to share?

3) capital gains tax cuts will certainly pass, since it is the correct thing to
do.  But, to pass it during Bush's term would have spurred economic growth and
helped Bush win.  Can you say sabotage?

4) today...


: Of course, some of his positions are more liberal, but then that is the
: definition of a centrist -- some of his positions are conservative, so
: liberal, some moderate.  As Gary Hart said, "I look neither left nor
: right but forward."
: 
: On a related note, why do conservatives insist upon bashing Congressional
: liberals who opposed the Gulf War with the words, "Everybody in the whole
: world supported the USA except the Congressional Democrats"?  The rest
: of the world was not going to bear the *costs* of the Gulf War if things
: got nasty, but the USA was.  The Congress was therefore justified in
: being more critical than everyone else.  Bill Clinton gave a statement
: of tentative support for the war, and did not condemn it by any means.
: This is again my definition of a moderate -- took one side (conservative,
: pro-war) but tempered it with input from the other.
: 

Another bit of humor?  The rest of the world bore the bulk of the dollar cost
of the war.  Nobody condemned the war, just wanted to see the sanctions go on
forever.  Your definition of moderate is MY definition of WAFFLE.  He was
against the war before it started, yet said "I suppose II support the war"
after it proved to be popular.

: In spite of this, I do hope Rush stays on the air, as I enjoy his
: commentary...sort of a "so bad it's good" thing.
: 
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