From: lkimes@alshain.usc.edu (Lance 'Moof' Kimes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Novell & network numbers
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 14 Aug 1992 14:31:07 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Aug14.183157.4563@novell.com>, cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch) writes:
|> 
|> 	How about a picture:
|> 
|> 	======+========================================  Ethernet
|> 	      |      ^net=644, one zone
|>          +---------+
|> 	 | NetWare |
|> 	 |         +----------- LocalTalk cable
|> 	 | Int net |
|> 	 +---------+
|> 
|> 	There are three networks in the above diagram, the ethernet, localtalk,
|> 	and the internal net.  Since there are lots of fast paths on the
|> 	ethernet, we can consider it as configured with 644 and some zone
|> 	name.  Now, when you say 'popped up with net=7261' I'm not sure what
|> 	you mean.  I presume you're talking about the internal net?  That's
|> 	the net number on the load appletlk line in the config file.  
|> 
|> 	As far as the BS, each cable MUST have the same configuration: net
|> 	(range) and zones list.  Each cable MUST have unique network numbers.
|> 	The internal net is considered to be a cable.  It MUST have a unique
|> 	number.  Do do NOT want to force it to be the same as anything else,
|> 	and we won't let you.
|> 
|> 	You don't discuss the LocalTalk cable's configuration.  If you need
|> 	more help, please include the autoexec.ncf file.
|> 
|> >Lance Kimes
|> >USC
|> 
|> ---
|> Chris Ranch
|> Internetworking Products Division
|> Novell, Inc.  San Jose, CA
|> (408)473-8667  cranch@novell.com


	I don't directly control the novell server, but I am responsible for
	the Ethernet backbone to which it connects.  The localtalk net is 
	strictly internal to their dept. & not connected to my network(except
	that we both have access to their server).  Before we switch to
	Phase 2, the servers network number was the same as the rest of the 
	network, after they upgraded to netware 3 & us to Phase 2, their network 
	number changed to 7261. As you know, Phase 2 separates network numbers
	and zones from meaning anything in relation to each other and that an
	extend network can be composed of one zone combining two logical networks.
	
	We want to keep the network numbers the same for the moment. I don't know
	what there internal or localtalk network numbers are. I do know that their
	external ethernet number is not what we want it to be. If I use interpol 
	to scan the network, it returns something like this:


	Net	Node	Name		Type		Zone
	644	35	seawolf		AFPServer	Ethernet
	644	35	seawolf		Macintosh IIci	Ethernet
	644	79	bill		Public Folder	Ethernet
	7261	1	ACCOUNTING	AFPServer	Ethernet


	It realizes its on an extended network and create its own logical network
	and network number and places itself in the zone "Ethernet".
	We will soon begin routing and creating the new logical networks upon we
	will route traffic across our backbone. If every novell server has to be
	allowed its own logical, external network, it will be difficult to 
	smoothly manage routing.
	
	You mentioned an appletalkcf(config I prosume) file, are they doing it
	wrong and have can I fix it?


Lance Kimes