From: loki@acca.nmsu.edu (Entropic Destroyer)
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re: Home Brews?
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:50:19 GMT
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Samuel Green (query@casbah.acns.nwu.edu) wrote:

: 	She is opposed to firearms, as the risk of killing the attacker is
: too high for her to accept.

now THAT is an argument for an INDIVIDUAL not carrying that I fully accept
(as if anyone would care... :)

: 	She thinks mace is a joke, and capstun is a bit weak for the price.
: She offered the following recipie for some incredibly vile stuff (she
: carries it in her purse [unless she fears she may be attacked] and let me
: get a whiff... I was crying for 10 minutes)

see comments on mace/capsicum in handguns? thread for a little more info...
: 
: 	I think that sounds a bit TOO extreme, as you could permanantly
: blind someone, and that may make it illegal to use.  But, along the same
: lines, I came up with a few alternatives that may or may not work.  

but the legal defense on this one is great!  'but sir, it was just some 
ground up cigarettes and stuff!  i never thought it would hurt anyone!'

: 	NOTE:  Some of these are not intended to be totally serious, but
: they are alternative defenses, and easily made at home.
: 
: 	1) Non-chlorine bleach and amonia.  Quick, cheap and probably
: deviously effective.  I am not sure, though, if this stuff is totally safe
: to make, as I heard somewhere that bleach and amonia mixed could create a
: poison gas of some sort.

ammonia+chlorine bleach --> ammonium chloride... highly toxic gas.  don't 
do it, i advise (chemistry grad student that i am :)
: 
: 	2) Gasoline.  Got some in my eyes once, and damn, it hurt!
: Couldn't think of much of anything except that I wanted to die for a while,
: there.  Don't carry this on *really* hot days, though, as the fumes could
: be quite strong.

sounds like a bad idea.  this stuff is pretty carcinogenic (even before you
burn it).  and it doesn't have a very immediate effect, except on the eyes.
unless, of course, you have a lighter handy :).
: 
: 	3) Acetone (sp?) and bleach.  Or, just plain acetone, if you like.
: In the eyes it will be quite effective.  Again, do not carry it on hot
: days, as I believe that it has a fairly low flash point.
: 
fingernail polish remover is mostly acetone.  again, not much immediate 
effect, unless you hit the eyes.  combusts nicely, though :)

: 	4) Concetrated acid.  Carry it in a parfume spritzer, and there you
: go.  I know of about a dozen chemical supply places around my area where
: you can get the stuff if you are willing to be sly about it.  (Not intended
: to be taken seriously)

bad idea... glad it wasn't put forth as serious.  :)
: 
: 	5) Napalm.  You see those *HUGE* 200 yard range squirt guns?  Make
: some napalm using a quart of dish detergent, a pint of gasoline or
: kerosene, and a small packet of gelatin (although, the gelatin may clog up
: the squirt gun).  Or, just get a stack of styrofoam cups and pour the
: gasoline into the top one and allow it to eat/soak its way through to the
: bottom one.  This takes a *long* time, though, and the result is *quite*
: viscous.  Then all you do is carry your squirt gun and a lighter...  Flame
: on.  (Not to be taken seriously, for those who may be uncertain)
: 
i think you should take this to the rec.pyrotechnics group... :)

: 	Anyway, I would be interested to hear about other home brews,
: serious and not so, if anyone has any ideas.
: 
: 	Sam
: 
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