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From: M17257@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: washing detergents
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:08:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.193728.29557@pts1.pts.mot.com>
alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com (ALICE BERTELSON X2572 P7331) writes:
 
>
>>This brings up a question I have:  Sam is 7 months old, and I've been washing
>>his clothes separately, in Dreft.  When do I dare to try washing his clothes
>>with ours (we use Tide), and how long would it take for any adverse reaction
>>to show itself?  And when do I dare to use fabric softener sheets in the dryer
>>with his clothes?
>>
>>Maybe I'm desperately grasping at straws here, but even being able to wash
>>Sam's clothes with ours could save me some time....
>>
>>Coni Gehler
>>clg@cray.com
>
> Hi - my son Matthew is now almost 4 yrs old and I still wash his stuff and my 16mo daughters stuff in Dreft - Believe me the rash on his neck is
>instantaneous when he puts on clothes washed in anything else - I can always tell when MIL washes his c
>lothes!!! - I do ask her not to :-) Her doing that is enough of an indication to me that he still is very sensitive to stronger detergents so I
>haven't tried is periodically since Melanie was born......
>
>I don`t know if my daughter is the same as now I have SOOOOO many clothes to wash that they easily fill up a load themsleves!!
>
>Mind you on the other part I have been putting fabric softener sheets (a variety of Cling free, bounce whatever) in with the clothes in the dryer for
>ages - probably since he was about 6 mths old and that doesn`t seem to cause a reaction.
>
>Alice, Alleycat or Brit :-)
>
 
Well, I've always used regular detergents for Stefan's clothes.  The only bad
reaction I got was with Amway's cleaner w/ fab soft(we use Boldw/FS or some
other kind w/ FS)  Well, I was using too much soap and not rinsing an extra
time.  Once I rinsed extraand used less, or switched back to old stuff, no prob
>
I think it also depends on the child, Stefan is still very sensitive to metal
against his skin and always gets rashes.
 
Ellie
From: ck270@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Andrea Von Ahnen)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Kids names for food (wqas Cute things they say)
Date: 9 Nov 1992 17:47:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Brilliant!  Cotton candy *does* look and feel a bit like soft ice
cream, makes perfect sense to me!  :)
   
Andi  (Mom to Aaron, Alexander, and triplets due 3/3/93)
   
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: AMY.UHRBACH@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Amy Uhrbach")
Subject: re: hospital tour
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:32:30 GMT

Sounds like your hospital is great!  We had a wonderful experience, with a
very atypical labor (7 weeks early, hence constant monitoring.  Baby not
descended, hence I had to lie down so cord wouldn't prolapse under small baby.
 Only 5 hours total).

You might want to check on whether the hospital has a level 3 nursery; it not,
where they send kids.  Very unlikely you'll need it, but we did.  It mattered
ALOT that my son was in a level 3 nursery immediately, and that I could still
visit him there.  There were some kids in there (Children's hospital, Boston)
who had been sent there by ambulance from over 2 hours away!  Makes it near
impossible to visit much, which DOES matter to babies.

Good luck!  In all liklihood, this is information you'll never use!
From: llf@alice.att.com (alice!llf)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: What is a spanking (Re: Our parents and spanking)
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:13:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.24154
Reply-To: llf@alice.UUCP (alice!llf)
Organization: New Jersey State Home for Bewildered Kittens

In article <1992Nov10.171301.26549@cs.brown.edu> mhn@cs.brown.edu (Marian H. Nodine) writes:
>In article <3156@ncr-mpd.FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM> sdavis@khan.ColoSpgs.NCR.COM (Susan Davis) writes:
>>One time my mother (in a rage) took a hairbrush to my brother.
>
>When I was young, my mother (in a rage) spanked my bare bottom with a
>hairbrush.  Only problem -- she used the bristle end -- and had to spend
>about 15 minutes carefully removing the bristles from my butt.  Kind
>of overkill, I think.
Gee, these examples here fall into my definition of a beating, not a
spanking.  To me, at least, a parent who has lost control or is venting
rage isn't spanking.

So... For those folks who DO spank, or believe that spanking is sometimes
useful, even if they haven't had to.... can you define a "spanking"?
I don't think we can talk rationally without a working definition.

I'll give it an initial stab:  a spanking is a bare hand applied 
once or several times to the rear end or open bare hand of a recipient
which creates a stinging or slightly painful sensation.

Lynda
-- 
					Member HASA, Atheist-Scum Division
"The One Horseman and Three Pedestrians of the Apocalypse" - Terry Pratchet
From: AMY.UHRBACH@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Amy Uhrbach")
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: re:down and mites
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:19:46 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

I think the mites in down comforters are plain old dust mites (but I could be
wrong).  If so, it should only be an issue if your son has allergies, in which
case you need to use a synthetic.  Is the comforter washable?  If so, wash
before using.  Of course, this assumes your son is also not allergic to down
- not a given in our family, who are mostly allergic to everything :-(.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: elise@ticipa.pac.sc.ti.com (Elise Wade)
Subject: Re: Diaper Services - worth it ?
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:01:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.203747.16677@chpc.utexas.edu> jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd) writes:
>In article <owens.721325099@gargoyle.uchicago.edu>, owens@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Christopher Owens) writes:
>|> In <EezN0zq00VB1M49nw_@andrew.cmu.edu> mh5r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mary Hart) writes:
>|> 
>|> > Environmentally speaking, I felt good about using cloth rather than 
>|> > disposables, and that was worth a lot to me.

[...]
>
[....]
>posables are these days (so that babies don't use as many in a day as they 
>used to), the actual space occupied in the landfills by disposables is 
>probably less than it was just a few years ago, although the effect on 
>ground water would be essentially the same, since all that pee and poop is 
>still there, just encased in fewer disposables :-).
>
>Jan

As I recall, National Geographic did a very interesting article
on land fills about 1- 2 years ago.  One of the things I recall being
surprised by was the lack of pathogenic bacteria.  They were specifically
testing for bacteria they expected to be present from human waste
in disposables -- there simply wasn't any.  

The biggest % of landfills -- about 1 / 2 in fact -- is taken up by 
newspaper.  The next biggest items is yard wastes, such as grass 
clippings.  So, if you *really* care about the environment, stop 
buying newspapers (they don't have the capacity to recycle all 
that is produced) and put your leaves and grass clippings in a 
compost pile.

Elise.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Mikemoe)
Subject: Re: a new fun thread??
Reply-To: millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:16:27 GMT

In article 0ezz09K00UhW42wodc@andrew.cmu.edu, Judi Mancuso <jm5p+@andrew.cmu.edu> () writes:
>> 
>>Well I've had the misfortune to be asked (on several occasions),
>>"When is the baby due?" -- and the baby was already born.
>>-- 
>>Diane Pedersen
>>AT&T Bell Laboratories
>>Naperville, Illinois
>
>I am hoping to think up a really great response---any ideas?   Judi  
>

Well, a corollary to this...my wife every once in a while gets asked
if she is pregnant. She isn't. (They're good natured..of course. After
all, we've been married 2.5 years and people know we want kids some day,
and my wife does carry a little extra weight.)

Anyway, we've thought of several responses....the best (to me) being...

Are you pregnant?

-No, but my husband and I are trying every chance we get.

-No, I can't have children    [I think this would shut them up...]

-No. Why, do I look pregnant?  [maybe this puts them in an uncomfortable position]

-No, are you?

-I don't think so...my husband is impotent! [Wow them...need to have understanding
                                             husband, tho....]

So, how about.....

When are you due?

-9 months from tonight I hope....

(I can think of more, but then they start to get tasteless.....)
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From: miki@aftac1.llnl.gov (R. Miki Moore 423-9712)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: toy storage
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:38:59 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Originator: miki@aftac1.llnl.gov


In article <1992Nov07.024828.2223283@locus.com>, 
judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:
>One other thing I did that I'm terribly proud of, and people really like
>when they come to the house, is convert the children's closets into toy
>chests.  They have Jack and Jill closets (one closet, with half being
>in one room and half in the other).  They have huge sliding doors.  We
>replaced the wooden doors with mirrored doors and now leave the doors open
>all the time.  

i second this. we removed the sliding doors to the closet (they
are in the garage for when the kids want them back). we put up 
do-it-yourself shelving from home depot. it is great. laura 
(3yo) has a small part of the bottom shelving high enough off 
the ground so dresses can be hung. and we don't have to worry
about those stupid doors always coming off their tracks.

> .. <stuff deleted> For example, Erin now plays with her
>playmobile doll house, but only if it is set up.  Which means I have to
>reset it up on the floor after the cleaning woman comes (but that's a 
>small price to pay for not having to spend every Saturday cleaning the
>house - worth every penny if you ask me.  Even recalcitrant Ron has come
>to love Dora days).

we are two months into having a house keeper come in every other week.
it is great knowing that every speck of dirt on the kitchen floor will
"magically" get removed without me doing it!! my neighbor convinced
me of biting the bullet on this when she said she views it as
"marriage counseling". now saturdays are play time for me 



-- 
Miki Moore
Lawrence Livermore National Labs
All opinions are those of the author only
miki@aftac1.llnl.gov
-- 
Miki Moore
Lawrence Livermore National Labs
All opinions are those of the author only
miki@aftac1.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: misc.kids,ba.general,ba.wanted
From: wyle@synopsys.com (Mitch Wyle)
Subject: (S. Bay) extra wide shoes for toddlers
Organization: Synopsys Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:01:32 GMT

Can someone please direct me to a shoe store in the south
bay that specializes in very wide shoes for 2-year-olds?

much obliged,

-Mitch

--

Mitch Wyle                     (415) 694 4076 (work)
Synopsys Inc                   (408) 263 3063 (home)
700 E. Middlefield Rd.         (415) 965 8637 (fax)
Mountain View, CA  94043-4033  (800) 843 5669 x4076 (voice)
wyle@synopsys.com
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: GeraldR@sunfish.ratsys.com (Gerald Ruderman)
Subject: Re: High-chair reco wanted
Organization: Rational Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:31:46 GMT

In article <DURRIYA.92Nov9163917@doctor.osf.org> durriya@doctor.osf.org (Durriya Netterwala) writes:
>        I would like recommendations for high chairs.

I echo what others have said. I found that how hard they are to clean an 
important factor. We had one we could take outside and hose down or soak in 
the bath. This was especially useful with dried oatmeal.


Gerald Ruderman                                   geraldr@ratsys.com
Organization: Student Employment Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: guthrie@ursula.nb.rockwell.com (Karen Guthrie)
Subject: Re: Washing stuffed animals
Reply-To: guthrie@ursula.nb.rockwell.com (Karen Guthrie)
Organization: Rockwell International
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:17:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.083120.1310@hemlock.cray.com>, clg@cray.com (Coni Gehler) writes:
>stanzi@media.mit.edu (Constance "Stanzi" Royden) writes:

>Okay, a couple of potentially-stupid-sounding questions on this topic:
>
>1.  What if the surface washable stuffed animal has a music box inside?  (You
>    know, one of those wind-it-up-it-plays-nice-soft-music sort of things.)
>    Should I not even consider washing something like this in the machine?
>    (My son received a nice white bunny that plays "Here Comes Peter Cottontail"
>    in wonderfully soft tones.  But it's WHITE.  And he LOVES IT.  On the
>    CHANGING TABLE.)
>
>2.  If I'm doomed to surface cleaning this thing, how does one surface clean?
>    Like, with just water?  (Okay, so I know this shows how ignorant I truly
>    am, but I guess I need to know.)
>
>
>And, seeing how ignorant I am about cleaning stuffed animals, you can imagine
>how bad I am at coming up with logical consequences in the spanking/anti-spanking
>discussing!  (In my defense, however, my son is only 7 months old and so I have
>some time to learn about that.  The time I have to learn about cleaning Bunny,
>however, is fast dwindling away....)
>
>Coni
>clg@cray.com


Toys R us has a surface soap for surface washable toys called Teddy bear cleaner.
It still doesn't work as well as the washer.  I would take the music box out 
baste the opening closed and put it in the washer on gentle cycle and then in the
dryer for a short time ( in a pillow case) but the surface stuff can tide you
over in between best of all I would try to buy another one before they quit making
them.  My daughter has 4 identical snoopy dogs they are all about the same age and
so losing one is not a panic.  So far (4.5yr) she hasn't demanded that they all
sleep with her or go with her.  Of course I did end up buying a few duplicates 
of things that she lost interest it just because I thought that this would be the
special toy oh well.

Karen
From: shack@cs.arizona.edu (David Shackelford)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: 20/20 SPANKING COMPLAINT
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:14:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <TIGGER.92Nov9205204@satyr.Sylvan.COM> tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan) writes:
 >In article <26037@optima.cs.arizona.edu> shack@cs.arizona.edu (David Shackelford) writes:
 >
 >   I have known several children who deliberately disobeyed to find
 >   out what the limits were.  They routinely broke rules which were
 >   enforced via timeout or loss of priviledges but followed rules
 >   which were enforced via spankings.  These were children of relatives,
 >   neighbors, and friends I grew up with.  Some of their misbehavior
 >   had some rather dangerous possible consequences.
 >
 >I would like to point out that those parents also spanked. So perhaps
 >it confused the kids - they assumed that their parents where only
 >serious about the rules they would spank for?

This is exactly what I mean.  My parents taught me that some things
are somewhat important, some things are unimportant, some things are
VERY important.  The rules that were VERY important got enforced with
spankings, while the other rules that weren't so important got
enforced with groundings or other punishments.  I almost never
repeated something I got spanked for.  Anytime I did resulted in my
parents re-evaluating the rule (going on what they've told me after
the fact).

Equally important, they rewarded VERY good behavior with something we
REALLY wanted, SOMEWHAT good behavior with something we could do
without but still liked, and AVERAGE behavior not at all.

We even got to set SOME of the rules, and had enough influence to move
rules from one catagory to another (usually downward).  An interesting
thing all four of us kids agree on is that our parents might not have
been strict enough.  We're very satisfied with the way our lives have
turned out, and plan to use similar methods ourselves.

What category would you place my parents in based on these
descriptions?

Dave
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom)
Subject: Re: Helpful Hints (was Re: Birth Announcement)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:52:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.080942.29509@hemlock.cray.com> clg@cray.com (Coni Gehler) writes:
>
>This brings up a question I have:  Sam is 7 months old, and I've been washing
>his clothes separately, in Dreft.  When do I dare to try washing his clothes
>with ours (we use Tide), and how long would it take for any adverse reaction
>to show itself?  And when do I dare to use fabric softener sheets in the dryer
>with his clothes?

I think Jeffrey was about that age when i switced to unscented Tide. I
continued to use Dreft for diapers until about 10 months, and then also 
switched to Tide. I think, by now, you should have a pretty good idea if
Sam has sensitve skin. You dont use Dreft on your cloters, yet I am sure
Sam spends a lot of time exposed to them, during cuddles, etc. Any sign of
problems? You may want to try moving some of his clothes to you pile, maybe
start with pants, and see how it goes.

There was a recent thread on this. Many people have sucessfully used normal
detergent since thier babies were born, without problems. I think I will
switch back to Dreft for the diapers after my next baby is born, and maybe do
the first one or two loads of everything else in Dreft, but plan toi transition
as soon as possible to Tide.
>
>Maybe I'm desperately grasping at straws here, but even being able to wash
>Sam's clothes with ours could save me some time....

Actually, I used to put some of my clothes in with Jeffrey. Dreft is a 
fairly effective detergent. I always made sure there was a full load.

Laura Floom
From: goldberg@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg)
Subject: Barney and Thomas fans
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: slippers, slipper socks
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD, USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:27:00 GMT

Hi everyone. For all you Barney and Thomas the Tank Engine fans,
yesterday I was in a K-Mart here in Maryland, and they had
slipper socks in both varieties. These are for the littler kids -
the biggest was size 9-10, which should (please) fit my 4  year
old son this winter. Just thought this might be of interest!
                             Patti Twigg
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: 20/20 and Spanking
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:48:59 GMT

In article <25819@optima.cs.arizona.edu> shack@cs.arizona.edu (David
Shackelford) writes:

>
>Another thing I might do that sounds cruel to anti-spankers is to
>scold, tell him he's going to get spanked, and make him wait for
>it (and think about it during the wait).  This is how my parents
>connected the offense to the punishment, and I can attest to its
>effectiveness.
>
>>

>It is not ineffective.  Proof by contradiction.  I was spanked by
>my parents.  I am well-adjusted and have normal (if somewhat
>conservative) values.  Spanking was effective with me.  Therefore
>it is not ineffective.  QED.
>
>

Dave,
I am convinced that you do not have kids based upon your descriptions of
punishment like the one above. You are probably just doing this to raise a
fuss. You have achieved your goal. I would suggest though that before you have
kids, please take some kind of instruction audio, video, classroom, or
anything. You will learn that what you have passed on as well adjusted, normal
punishment is actually just the opposite of what you should be doing.

*****************************************************************
John R. Cobarruvias, Texas A&M Class of '78, 
NASA Johnson Space Center Houston Tx.
(713)483-9357

"And to think..................I hesitated" (Hellraiser II)
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Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: amym@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Amy Moseley Rupp)
Subject: Birth Announcement
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:46:28 GMT

Ed and Amy Rupp would like to introduce to the net:

Elizabeth AnneMarie Rupp
November 4, 1992
10:05 pm
7 lbs. 12 oz.
20 1/4"

Birth story to follow when I am not so tired (she was born via
c-section)


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From: francis@ircam.fr (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,sci.med
Subject: Confusing Scaling (Re: Age, aging, and appearance)
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:30:26 GMT
Organization: IRCAM, Paris (France)

In article <3934@wyse.wyse.com> donna@wyse.wyse.com (Donna Diloreto x2231 dept302) writes:
>In article <1dei8bINNjpv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes) writes:
>>
>>There's the common practice of estimating a person's age from physical
>>appearance.  There were some postings from people in their twenties who
...
>I, too, look a lot younger than I am.  Unfortunately, I haven't enjoyed
>it too much.  At 21, I had my daughter.  Everyone thought I was a high-
>schooler, instead the college senior that I was.  As my daughter became
>a teenager, everyone thought we were sisters.  My daughter is now 14, I
>am 35.  She looks like she's a freshman in college, I look like I'm 25.
>She is 4 inches taller than me, and wears bigger shoes and clothes.  Poor
>kid -- when she takes the baby out (6 1/2 mo old), everyone probably thinks
>the baby is hers.
>been in the work force for over 13 years!
>Sigh... My husband says I will happy I look young when I am in my 50's.
>I hope that by then, I will get the respect an older person deserves.
>mom to Paul 6 1/2 months
>   and Sheila 14 1/2 months

Is this to say that you are 35, your daughter 14 years, and your child
Paul is 6 years? or he is 6.5 months old, Shelia at a timeworn 14
months manages to simulate a collegiate drastically older, while you
manage to balance 13 years in work with the burden of being able
to simulate being the sister of an infant while at the same time
being able to solve multiple partial nonlinear differential equations
without the aid of CRC tables. Three questions come to mind:

1) What kind of lipsticks do jeune infanta wear?
2) Does your husband identify with Nabokov heroes?
3) 21 - 14 + 35/15 - 4" % 25 ~ 6.5 / 14 & 13?


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