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From: WendyC@world.std.com (Wendy I Chadwick)
Subject: patterns for skatins clothes
Summary: patterns for skating clothes
Keywords: patterns, skating dresses
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:17:55 GMT

Does anyone know of any other patterns for ice skating skirts, dresses or
tights besides the ones by Stretch and Sew?  I sew for my daughter (and
her friends) They are mostly 7 yrs old and are competing now.  I look
forward to hear from anyone with more information.  Thanks Wendy
From: mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Weights Instead of Pins
Date: 28 Sep 1992 19:06:29 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu

deberry@mcnc.org (Mercedes Deberry) writes:

>Has anyone out there used weights instead of pins?  I am considering trying
>weights becouse pins 1) leave holes in some fabrics and 2) on hard, stiff
>fabrics like denim, it is hard to pin and causes me to tear my pattern.
>Any suggestions?

Yeah -- one -- don't BUY weights.  Look in your kitchen cupboard.  See
those cans of soup and tuna fish and cat food and ...

There are MANY things around the house that you can use for weights,
and I'm sure some of you have more ideas than I do.

--
If you saw a heat wave, would you wave back?
  -- Steven Wright

    Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois
Catx2 Owned, Square Dancer, Leaper, Ballroom Dancer in training 
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From: sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Enviromentally-conscious sewing
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:51:12 GMT
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133

rrah@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Runa Rahman) writes:

> ...I
>wish mercerized cotton and silk thread were more widely available in a 
>wide range of colors, for example.  

When I took a quilting class we were warned never to use silk thread.
It's much stronger than cotton, and will cut through the fabric in time.
I don't know if this would also apply to synthetic fabrics.

>I read of an English company that collects old sweaters
>and shreds them to make new yarn and sweaters - the best use for the the
>sythetics already made I can think of.

Actually, this isn't new. I come from Dewsbury, in the West Riding of
Yorkshire. Dewsbury's fortune (such as it was) was built on `shoddy',
which is a cloth made from rags that are pulverised and then -  I don't
know the correct term - sort of felted together. It isn't woven. It
doesn't last long, but it was instrumental in bringing fashion to the 
masses in the last century because it was cheap, so you could afford
a new dress in this year's fashions every year.

The word `shoddy' has come to mean cheap and short-lived, but it was
really an instrument of social change. It's fascinating how social
history and fabricology overlap.

Sally
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: MAHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: neckline gaping open
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 17:55:41 EDT

I really recommend the Singer sewing book 'Fitting' for figuring out what
to do for each 'problem'.  They have good pictures of the effect of
each problem, and pictures of what is generally meant by things like
'a normal bust' or 'small thighs', so you can have a better idea of
what is really a problem or if you're just obsessing.
 
On the whole, patterns are made for a B cup, so everyone else must
adjust the bust on fitted clothes.  The main measurement to take
is the armpit-fold-to-armpit-fold one, right where you'd have
a notch on the pattern.  If these match, you're doing OK, and
you only need to do the recommended small-bust adjustment.
If not, you have to make it match (maybe by using a different
bodice size to begin with?).
 
The weight-in-the-bra is trick is an excellent one.  You can
also improve the staying power of a low-cut bodice by putting
little straps in the shoulder seams that can snap around bra
straps and help with lateral displacement.
 
We are assuming you already are doing all this fitting work
while wearing the same bra you'll be wearing on d-day, right?
 
Marie-Christine
mahe-marie-christine@yale.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: kiss@slab.unt.edu (EVELYN KISS)
Subject: Re: Weights Instead of Pins
Organization: School of Library & Info Sci, UNT
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:01:12 GMT

In article <BvB2HE.2Fw@news.larc.nasa.gov> hunt@uadp1.larc.nasa.gov (Linda Hunt) writes:
>From: hunt@uadp1.larc.nasa.gov (Linda Hunt)
>Subject: Re: Weights Instead of Pins
>Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:34:25 GMT
>I've recently started using weights.  Cans are okay, but flat ones are easier to
>work around.  I use a few strategic pins (e.g. on the grainline, near things I
>will need to mark) then fill in with weights.
>
>Linda 

I heard about someone who used dinner knives for weights.  I agree with 
Linda that a combination of the two may be best.  I've found that the edges 
of the pattern curve upward when using weights which can be annoying when 
trying to cut.

I didn't like weights well enough to use them exclusively.

Evelyn
From: v125jamm@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (A.C.)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: martial arts uniforms
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


           Help! I am looking for patterns for karate gi's 
           and fencing suits.  Adult sizes.  Even with hall-
           ween stuff out I am having no luck.  Any ideas
           greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

                                 A.C.
                                 v125jamm@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: Sarah Kelley
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: costuming jobs
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:16:36 GMT
Followup-To: alt.sewing
Organization: Public Macs, Academic Computing, Yale University

Hi -- I'm a Yale student looking for a job for next summer which relates to
my interests in historical clothing and sewing. An internship of some sort,
theater work, working for an organization like the SCA or at festivals,
etc: any of these would be fine with me. I hardly know where to start
looking, so I thought I'd write and ask if anyone has any suggestions,
sources, addresses, or other leads for me. If so I would really appreciate
it if you could send them my way. 
											
																																																	Thanks very much -
																																																									Sarah Kelley
From: jlecher@pbs.org
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: sewing room
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:46:08 GMT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Sep25.183840.317@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, watson@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.k.watson) writes:
> In article <Bv554C.FGx@acsu.buffalo.edu> gorman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Anne-Marie K. Gorman) writes:
>>One plan I'm considering for storing notions is to buy a tackle box or 

> 
> I have taken to using empty diaper-wipes boxes lately myself.  
> Of the Baby Fresh variety and the cheapo imitations thereto.

Well, I guess if you need your stuff to be *portable*, these will work.
Unfortunately, I passed the portability stage YEARS ago. The bulk of 
my stuff is kept in a large 3-drawer low dresser that a friend gave
to me. It replaced the cardboard one that I had been using, and has
since fallen apart. On top of the dresser is a set of open bins full
of stuff, and next to my sewing table is a set of shelves full of my
thread and need-to-be-nearby stuff. In the drawers, to keep things
tidy (HAHAHAHAHAHAHA), I use plastic bins to separate the mess.

There just isn't enough room in the world to keep my stuff....
*sigh*

Jane
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: carolp@techbook.com (Carolyn Peterson)
Subject: Re: Fabriholism cure & cause
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 04:27:17 GMT



But, do we really *need* a cure!  

I had a wonderful time at a Sewing Fair today that was sponsored by
the local chapter of Home Economists in Business.  My two favorite
quotes from Palmer/Pletsch speakers were:

"Anything you make out of fabric that you have had for more than 6 
months is FREE!  (Some husbands have trouble grasping this simple concept.)"

and

"Fabric really should be aged before it is used."


-- 
Carolyn Peterson          
carolp@techbook.COM  
(No affiliation with InterCom)
From: jareed@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Judith Ann Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: gathers in taffeta
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:50:47 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University

In article <Sep.25.10.04.48.1992.22654@presto.ig.com> charleen@presto.ig.com (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>I use a ruffler attachment on my machine to do all my gathering
>(I'm no good at the stitch-two-lines-and-pull-the-threads method;
>I *never* get the gathers distributed evenly), so this isn't a problem
>for me.  The ruffler does its work with one line of stitching about
>1/4 to 5/16 inch from the edge, well within the seam allowance.
>
>Charleen
>
 I've just discovered the ruffler, and am trying to understand how one can
 use it to ruffle something that has to fit into a certain opening? How
 can I be sure that the ruffled fabric will come out the right length???

>-- 
>I'm not fat; I'm gravitationally-challenged.

 (great quote, by the way! )

 Judith Reed
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
From: Marina.Salume@Corp.Sun.COM (Marina Salume)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: sewing for Minnesota winter
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:08:35 GMT


 >I am also interested in making a coat...a heavy one...  I am from 
  >sunny, warm Fla. and will be travelling to St.Paul this winter for
  >their winter carnival.  I understand the average daily temp is 20 f.
  >I have no idea how to dress for this kind of weather.  I've never
  >even seen snow.  If anyone can offer some suggestions I would greatly
  >appreciate it.

I've never sewed a heavy wool cost, but I lived in Minnesota
for the first 24 yrs of my life, so I have some clothing ideas.
As previously mentioned, go for layers. Buy some cotton or silk
thermal underwear. If your coat doesn't fit tightly next to
your face, get a nice long scarf you can wind around your neck
and tuck into your coat in front. I used to wear fleece-lined 
suede gloves and fleece-lined boots in winter, rather expensive 
to buy for a short trip tho. I preferred long coats, to protect
my legs. Your feet and hands will get numb if you are just standing
or sitting around, you may want to check out your local camping
store to see if they have any of those little handwarmer thingies
that you can keep in your pocket--I think they have something similar
you can slip into your boots. You'll need to think about waterproof
as well as warm, since wet snow melts pretty easily. So look for big
waterproof boots that you can wear with two layers of socks inside).
A tightly fitting cap that covers your ears is essential, or your
scarf can do this too.

My favorite coat was a machine quilted
rip stop nylon one, it was light enough to wear in california's rainy
season too, and it was partly water resistant. If you'd like to make
something you could wear in less-extreme climates, you could consider
that.

--marina
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From: rrah@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Runa Rahman)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Enviromentally-conscious sewing
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:17:17 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Sep29.192124.7183@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>
>Sorry to rain on the parade!  IMHO, we shouldn't be looking for *a* solution,
>but for multiple solutions that people can choose from to reduce thier
>impact on the earth.

I think you have got a lot of us thinking more about what we're doing :)

>The dime's worth I've chosen for myself is
>trying to cut my overall consumption of clothing, and trying to ask/teach
>people to think about what we're *really* doing.
>
>And if we put my dime's worth with Runa's dime's worth, with ...
>pretty soon we've got a buck.  And if all 5 billion plus of us on
>earth today put our dimes together, we're talking significant
>changes!

Yes, my point exactly!  Thanks again, Kay, for the enlightenment and
for inspiring me to investigate this further!  :)  :)  :)

Runa
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: cfeem@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Eleanor Midkiff)
Subject: Re: neckline gaping open
Summary: Bouquet 
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 20:50:17 GMT
Expires: ?
Organization: Eastern Illinois University
Keywords: Gaping problem
Followup-To: alt.sewing

In answer to the question about neckline gaping: when I was in my sister's
wedding, I found that the dress (store-bought) did exactly that (probably
because my sister, who is bustier, tried it on and it fit *her*.).  What I
did, given that the wedding was the next day, was clutch the bouquet to my
bosom whenever I had to bend over, which was often, because I was in
charge of adjusting her train.  The videos of the wedding are hilarious!

Hope you find a better solution!

Eleanor


-- 
Eleanor Midkiff
(cfeem@eiu.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: sparks@miata.esd.sgi.com (Sarah E. Parks)
Subject: Re: Gathering (was gathers in taffeta)
Keywords: THANK YOU!!
Reply-To: sparks@miata.esd.sgi.com (Sarah E. Parks)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Entry Systems Division
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:36:38 GMT

I'd also like to thank everyone for their gathering ideas.
I too am making a taffeta and velvet bridesmaid
dress and I never knew any tricks for gathering, other
than the usual double-basting method.

I especially like the sound of the zig-zag over yarn method.  
I'll have to try this.

Sarah

|sparks@sgi.com        |
|Silicon Graphics, Inc.|
|M/S 01L-875   390-1452|
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: kiss@slab.unt.edu (EVELYN KISS)
Subject: Re: Sewing....not my Singer!
Organization: School of Library & Info Sci, UNT
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:09:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.194652.458@dct.ac.uk> mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk writes:
>From: mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk
>Subject: Sewing....not my Singer!
>Date: 29 Sep 92 18:46:52 GMT
>I don't mean to put a dampner on this most excellent party that is going on
>
>in this newsgroup but is not an incredibly boring subject to spend your time
>
>talking about??
>
>I may be very wrong? Email me and tell me if I am people?
>
>Have fun, and keep on sewing!!!!
>-- 
>################################################################################
># Kirk P at D.I.T.                                                             #
>#                                                                              #
># Janet : mcsbc3ktp@uk.ac.dct                                                  #
># Int   : mcsbc3ktp@uk.ac.dct@cunyvm.cuny.edu                                  #
>#                                                                              #
>#                   K E E P    G R O O V Y !                                   #
>################################################################################

You are very wrong.  I find the questions people pose useful as I often have 
some of the same problems.  Sewing is practically an addiction for me and is 
no more boring to me than your favorite hobbies are to you.

Perhaps you have the impression that I, as a home sewer, am some sort of 
recluse turning out dowdy dresses or country homespun.  Nothing could be 
farther from the truth.

I'm not sure why you felt compelled to comment as you did, but I do not 
think the subject is boring and could happily spend all my free time in 
creative endeavors.

Evelyn
From: louise@cc.gatech.edu (Louise Penberthy)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: help!  turmeric stains on white cotton shirt
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:02:49 GMT

I just spilled some potatoes, cooked Indian style with turmeric,
and there are now some stains from the turmeric on the sleeve of
my (brand new :-( ) white, all-cotton shirt.  I tried washing
them out with cold water and soap, but though they have lessened,
they're still there.

Besides turmeric, the potatoes were cooked with black mustard
seeds, cayenne pepper, and salt.  But I think the turmeric is the
operative ingredient in the stain.

If you have any suggestions, please e-mail.  I can't get this
newsgroup (unless I can persuade a friend to set up a feed).  Am
I reduced to making a short-sleeved shirt out of it?  :-(

Thanks.

-- Louise Penberthy


Louise Penberthy                |  "A student came to me with a desire to know
College of Computing/ Georgia   |   the time, and I told her how to make a 
Tech/ Atlanta, GA 30332         |   watch."
louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu     |        -- Chris, NEXP:Northwest Passages
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: Lois A McAdoo <mcadoo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Carmel colored velveteen
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:29:56 GMT

Does anyone know where I can buy carmel colored velveteen to put on a
coat collar?  I'm finding that dark brown velveteen is readily available,
but I really want a lighter shade -- more of a butterscotch or carmel.

The coat is camel colored wool, and I need to cover a large moth hole
on the collar.

Thanks!

					Lois McAdoo

--
Name:  Lois A. McAdoo    :  Academic Computing Services
Email: mcadoo.2@osu.edu  :  Ohio State University
Phone: 614-292-8095      :  406 Baker Systems, 1971 Neil Avenue
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From: dmiller@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Dick and Jill Miller)
Subject: Re: quilt frame
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 12:54:47 GMT


>Has anyone out there had any experience with building a quilting frame?
>I've seen the plastic, snap-together variety (maximum surface area about
>4ft**2), and the hoop type, but I'd really like a wooden one, adjustable
>to fit many sizes, and one which can be opened right up to accommodate 
>a quilt for a queen-sized bed and still hold the quilt properly.
>
>Does such an animal exist?

The simplest method is to use a set of 4 2x4's pinned together with 
C-clamps at the corners.  You should use clear lumber (no knots which can 
bleed sap onto your precious quilt) and tack muslin around the 2x4's to 
attach the quilt to.  See diagram.

      ||                             ||
   =======================================
      ||                             ||
      ||                             ||
      ||                             ||
      ||                             ||
      ||                             ||
   =======================================
      ||                             ||

You attache two opposite sides of the quilt to two of the 2x4's.  These 
are the cross-bars and will stay attached for the who quilting time.  Then 
you place the other bars across the ends and clamp them to the cross-bars 
while pulling the crossbars apart to get the right tension.

Attach the quilt to these side-bars, but not too permanantly as you will 
want to loosen this part as you go along.

Now you set the fram up on four (equal-height) straight-backed chairs and 
quilt along the cross-bars as far as you can reach.  Then you undo some of 
the side and the C-clamps and roll the quilt up onto the cross-bar until 
you can reach the next part to quilt.

This is how it was done for a quilting bee, but one can quilt this way, 
too.

The major problem is that the quilt thus stretched will take up a whole 
room!  If you have extra rooms, no problem, but most of us are not that 
lucky.  In the old days the quilt was sometimes suspended from the ceiling 
at the four corners (or the ends of the end-bars) and raised up out of the 
way when not being worked on.

--Jill


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Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: dbgrvv@edp.arco.com (Rosana VanDerGrinten)
Subject: Re: patterns for skatins clothes
Keywords: patterns, skating dresses
Organization: ARCO - Aept
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:21:17 GMT

In article <BvCtM0.HKB@world.std.com>, WendyC@world.std.com (Wendy I Chadwick) writes:
|> Does anyone know of any other patterns for ice skating skirts, dresses or
|> tights besides the ones by Stretch and Sew?  I sew for my daughter (and
|> her friends) They are mostly 7 yrs old and are competing now.  I look
|> forward to hear from anyone with more information.  Thanks Wendy

I don't think there are lot of patterns for skating other than the style
that Stretch and Sew have.

When my daughter started competing about 6 years ago, I ordered a customized
pattern from Skating dresses by Trudi. I got a basic leotard pattern, plus
some pattern for different style of skirts, neckline and sleeves. They also
will make pattern for tights and unitards.

I ordered just that one pattern and have since created different designs,
adjusted the pattern to fit as my daughter grew. I was able to make my own
pattern now from any design I drew. 

It doesn't matter what basic pattern you have, you still have to adjust
it depending on what the size of the skater is. I have made dresses for
several different kids who are all the same ages and have to make
pattern for each of them.

If you're interested in ordering a pattern for your daughter, the address
of Trudi is :
         Skating dresses by Trudi
         Box 362
         East Longmeadow, Ma 01028
          Tel. (413) 725-7200

I'm not sure if they're still in business, but you may want to try.
If you have any other questions in making skating outfits, I would be 
glad to help you as much as I can. I think it's good that you are making
it yourself considering how much people pay for a skating dress (some up
to $300 a dress for a child). 

Rosana Van Der Grinten
E-mail  : dbgrvv@edpu07.arco.com   (or)  rvv@world.std.com
From: kf1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Karen L. Frisa)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: gathers in taffeta
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:37:49 GMT
Organization: Network Development, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I just wanted to thank everyone for their replies to my post.  It
seems like my worst fears are true:  I will have to learn to go slowly
and carefully when I sew the bodice to the skirt.  :-)

This newsgroup is very inspiring.  I would never have undertaken a
project like a bridesmaid's dress if it wasn't for the people in this
group.  Thank you!

Karen
From: dikig@ddsw1.mcs.com (Diki Gust)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Weights Instead of Pins
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:29:20 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

deberry@mcnc.org (Mercedes Deberry) writes:
: Has anyone out there used weights instead of pins?  I am considering trying
: weights becouse pins 1) leave holes in some fabrics and 2) on hard, stiff
: fabrics like denim, it is hard to pin and causes me to tear my pattern.
: Any suggestions?

Years ago, 3M used to make a pinless pattern holder, spray the pattern,
lay on fabric, it didn't shift.  It has been discontinued, but they still
make SPRAY MOUNT which is very similar, (at least according to calls I
have placed to 3M).  It works the same way, I've found it's best to allow
a little extra drying time after spraying before placing the pattern on
the fabric.  You should find SPRAY MOUNT (tm, but I don't have that key) 8-)
in any art supply store.

Diki Gust  
Newsgroups: alt.sewing