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From: wfolsom@star-trek.bbn.com (Wayne Folsom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: U2 tix available
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:22:22 GMT
Reply-To: wfolsom@BBN.COM (Wayne Folsom)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: archive.bbn.com

In article <18250.2a8baecd@ecs.umass.edu> bhatnaga@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>
>Hi all of you U2 fans out there,
>
>I have great news for you.I have four front row seats(10 feet from the
>
>stage) for the U2 concert at Foxboro Stadium,Boston on Aug 20th.


Check this out.  I just called the guy.  He wants $250.00 each for the
tickets.  So don't bother unless you have $1000.00 to drop on a concert.




Wayne
From: rademaew@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Trivia Question (Promised Land)
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:12:00 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Aug18.004516.3655@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, Victor A D'Amato <DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu> writes:

> I have never heard Jerry or Pigpen sing lead on this throughout the
> entire song, however, I have heard *Mickey* (!) sing lead on it.
> An April Fool's joke to open 4-1-80 Capitol Theater Passaic, NJ.
> Jerry plays drums, Phil plays lead guitar and backups vocals, Billy
> plays bass, Bob plays keyboards, Brent plays drums and Mickey
> also plays rhythm guitar.  

Not to nitpick, but my recollection of that tape is that it sounds like Bob 
took over very early on the vocals, after a verse at most of Mickey (although 
Mickey chimes in with a word or two here and there)??


>The version absolutely sucks...
> Vic

Musically, perhaps, but it might qualify as one of the all time funniest 
things the Dead ever did. 

My board (very low gen) highlights Bob's keyboard "antics,"
which would either 1) make all the critics of Bob use it as CHEEZ ammo or 
2) make all the Bob defenders praise his versatility. 


Peace,

!eric!

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: steveha@sco.COM (Steve Harris)
Subject: Re: Field Trip -- NOT!!
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 18:05:51 GMT


Looks like we'll be lucky to even get one show on the west coast, 
considering that both the mail order and Dead hotline are down.

I hope this isn't something more serious.

Not to mention Jerry's Hubris comment in his interview before his birthday.
"People keep saying that something bad is gonna happen to me, but look
 I'm 50 years old and I'm still here!", or something to that effect.
Guess he forgot about the coma when he said that, eh?

*sigh*

And we really NEEDED this show, too.  Now they go off to East Coast, rage
a party and bring all that crap back here before we've had a chance to 
clean up from the last time.


Anyway, "JERRY, WE LOVE YOU!, and GET WELL SOON!".
From: cave@cis.rand.org (Jonathan Cave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: INSTRUCTIONS FOR REFUNDS OF GDTS TIX
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:30:03 GMT
Reply-To: cave@cis.rand.org (Jonathan Cave)
Organization: RAND, Santa Monica CA

In article <1992Aug15.095756.1@woods.ulowell.edu> stephensd@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
[...inter alia...]
|>Return the tickets to:
|>     GDTS - Refund
|>     Box C-F 8150
|>     San Rafael, CA 94912

Isn't that P.O. Box C-S 8150?  I'm not sure myself; the tape was very
faint.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Fred Harris <fhh@nofs.navy.mil>
Subject: Early (earliest) Wharf Rats
Reply-To: fhh@nofs.navy.mil
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:27:26 GMT

I have puzzled over the chronology of the first Wharf Rat ever since I
first receive Deadbase (II) and it listed 2-18-71 Portchester as the first
(Dark Star => Wharf Rat => Dark Star -> Me And My Uncle).  From way back
when in the early 70's I have had a reel with two monophonic audience shows,
one on left channel and the other on the right: one is 2-18-71 Portchester
and the other is 2-16-71 Portchester.  The 2-16-71 songlist is identical to
Deadbases's 2-23-71 Portchester, EXACTLY one week later (both would have
occurred on Wednesdays).

Due to the genealogy of my reel, I have no reason to suspect that the date
of 2-16-71 is in error; due to the errors and omissions I see in (early)
Deadbase, I have no reason to believe the 2-23-71 date for the same show.
2-16-71 introduces Wharf Rat as: Truckin => Drums => The Other One =>
Wharf Rat; a critical listening to these two Wharf Rats leads me to
conclude that 2-16-71 is the earlier version, i.e. the first.

Does anyone else have both of these shows to where they can also compare
the performances?  Does anyone have documentation OTHER THAN DEADBASE to
resolve which date, 2-16 or 2-23, is correct for the Portchester show in
question?  Curious Wharfsters want to know...

Fred Harris
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Greyson Schwing <grey_s@cs.odu.edu>
Subject: Re:  Dead-Flames Digest #167
Reply-To: grey_s@cs.odu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:50:02 GMT

Please remove me from the mailing dist. list.

Greyson
From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: No mnore fig newtons for Wayne
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:10:24 GMT
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet


	Wayne Newton filed for bankruptcy yesterday.

This is important to Diamondbacks everywhere who follow Wayne around when
Neil is not on tour.  Prior to this anouncement yesterday, rumors were flying
as to both Neil and Wayne doing a "dream show" together somewhere in a
stealth location in Vegas, known only to Diamondbacks and Figsters.  With
yesterday's anouncement beginning to sink in, new rumors are swirling as to
the two performers doing a *TOUR* together to offset some of Wayne's tax
and gambling losses.  This DiamondBack will do his best to keep all 'baks
informed.
From: Victoria.M.Haliburton@dartmouth.edu (Victoria M. Haliburton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Questions for musicologists
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:46:49 GMT
 <BsvoEr.19t@news.udel.edu>  <1992Aug13.005502.25871@seas.smu.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Well, one person replied to me privately that St. Stephen, if you
*just* listen to the stressed notes, is essentially a slow march, and
that may be it. I find the draggy feeling even in the first bar, so it
can't be a change in tempo when the tempo isn't even identified yet.
But I also get a feel as if the heavy beat comes later than you expect
it - is it because there's an off-beat that's a little early, perhaps?
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: steveha@sco.COM (Steve Harris)
Subject: Re: Field Trip Not
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:39:26 GMT



A few messages back, the Toyota Celica Guy mentioned that maybe the 
Dead could find a temporary replacement for Jerry.

Presumably at least most readers would agree that no one could possibly
replace Jerry.  Also few would deny that Jerry's "style" or possibly "form"
is integral to the sound and the experience.

So I'm thinking...Jerry may not have the stamina in the future to really
carry things the way he has in the past, albeit this has been happening
to a degree already.  ASSUMING the Dead don't want to just wind down like
an old clock, or Swiss watch as the case seems to be, then it makes
sense than someone/thing is going to have to fill the void...but first it
must be determined what that void is.

If we are all following around the inner workings of Jerry's mind, and
Jerry's mind alone, then we are screwed.  But if what I suspect is true,
then we are ALL "looking at the same thing" so to speak, and Jerry's vision
is crystal.  That being the case, it should be possible for SEVERAL musicians
to actually replace Jerry in the mix to a great degree, as Jerry seems to 
be both a rhythmatist and lead guitar, practically percussive in single note
melodies, but backed/driven by chordal rhythm.

Could Jerry take it upon himself to step back a bit from the mix, as did
his predecessors...Armstrong, Ellington...without losing his vision, perhaps
instructing rather than actually implementing?  If he doesn't want the
responsibility, why did he create it in the first place?

Maybe I'm taking this too far.

WE LOVE YOU JERRY!   GET WELL SOON!!!

--Mr. Time
	(actually Steve Harris)


---------------------

"Ain't no time to hate,
 Merely time to wait.
 Whoa, what I want to know...
 How does the song go?"
		-- Brent Mydland paraphrasing R. Hunter
		   during Uncle John's Band
From: moffitt@chopin.udel.edu (Curtis Moffitt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: St. Stephen music structure (was Re: Questions for musicologists)
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:03:36 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Aug13.005502.25871@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>>I don't quite understand what you mean Vic but I'll give it a shot.... The
>>idea that it may seem to drag may be a result of the fact that the chord
>>progression "wraps around onto itself".  That is, the main progression
>>for the song is:  E D A E 
>>So, when you play a bar of E, then a bar of D, then a bar of A, and then back
>>top E again, you start over and you get another bar of E.  This, in the middle
>>of a second repeat of the progression makes two consecutive bars of E and 
>>it could give it that "dragging" quality becuase you stay on E so long....
>>
>Sorry Curt- that's a  ii - V  - I cadential pattern and basically most all
>tonal music has made constant use of it for 300 years. Not a bad try though.
>I still think it because the music DOES drag at times, they don't play in
>a metronomic tempo - it changes, gets faster and slower.

Hmmmmmm.  II - V - I ?  I don't quite see it... I may be wrong but it looks
like   V - IV - I  to me - even more common than II - V - I...  It's a basic
blues turnaround that hangs on the V...  I attributed the dragging to the
fact that, if a song hangs on the dom7 (the V) it will coax the listener 
very heavily into wanting to hear the tonic, thus the "want" causes the 
"dragging".  Although I do agree about the tempo changes.  St. Stephen
is all over the place tempo-wise...
    Also, we might want to note that, believe it or not St. Stephen is played
as a BALLAD!????   Yeah, quarternote drops is the rhythm and these can tend 
to be off beat.   Also, this injects a lot of "space" into the tune.
Actually, St. Stephen is mostly space (more silence than music) and a lot 
of space can definately make a song seem to drag compared to other dead songs
which are very much full (hardly any space). 

Any ideas?  Comments?  Suggestions?  Elaborations?  (I think I'm gonna make
a .sig with this in it :-)

Later, Curt
From: wfolsom@star-trek.bbn.com (Wayne Folsom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Correction to "Life After The Dead" announcement!!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:06:20 GMT
Reply-To: wfolsom@BBN.COM (Wayne Folsom)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: archive.bbn.com

In article <1992Aug21.040549.23532@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> gilde@jaco.ds.boeing.com writes:
>In my haste to get this info out, I screwed up!

In your haste you posted the same message about six times!!
What's the matter Rob you FAT fingers? :-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Dan Luther <dmluthr@sdrc.com>
Subject: "constructive dialog"
Reply-To: dmluthr@sdrc.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:56:22 GMT

With regard to the significant degree of name calling, personal bashing,
'I've got a degree in xxxx', he sucks, you suck, anatomically inappropriate
descripotions ad naseaum...


	Please take it to E-Mail!!!

If you have an opinion about the Dead, how they play, what they play, who you
like who you don't or whatever, I might be interested.  Might turn out to be
enlightening, even constructive...

But if you are going to bash someone else... (megaphone on) DO IT PRIVATELY!!

Thank you for your time.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled programming.
From: lip@felina.Eng.Sun.COM (Philo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: cancel fall tour?
Date: 13 Aug 1992 17:07:26 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: felina

In article <1992Aug13.005231.18731@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> tomw@astro.umd.edu writes:
>so should the fall tour be cancelled? would the dead be the dead 
>without jerry?
>so is jerry the gd? i certainly like his sound, his talent, and i 
>certainly hope he
>recovers. but that's gonna take some time, so i think he should take 
>as much time
>off as necessary.
>
>who are the grateful dead anyway? i always thought the music played 
>the band,
>that they were more than the sum of their parts...they didn't stop 
>being the dead
>when tc left, or when pigpen died, or when donna and keith left, or 
>when brent died...
>
>so i think the dead should go on with the fall tour...they're 
>professionals.  maybe
>they could persuade henry kaiser to fill in for jerr...

Nope.  It ain't the Dead without Jerry.  Jerry isn't replaceable.

-lip
From: "Doug Budzak" <DBUDZAK@IVY>
Subject: Terrapin Station BBS
Reply-To: DBUDZAK@IVY
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:53:41 GMT

Hi all -

  There has been some confusion here recently about Terrapin Station
BBS. This is not the Unix one (ftp, etc); this is a regular
dial-with-yer-modem BBS. There was trouble last week, because the
Captain's 9600 baud modem went down, so he had to substitute his 2400
in its place. I am using an Incomm 2400 baud modem (junk!) that
wouldn't connect with his 2400. He put the 9600 back online this past
weekend, and everything is groovy. The # is 1-203-656-0134, located in
Darien CT. Sysop is Captain Trips.

But yo Randy Reed - thanx for the post about the Eyes forum on Velocity
Box. And I will be giving your BBS a call, probably tonight!
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: andyrose@netcom.com (San Francisco Fractal Factory)
Subject: Eugene Gathering this weekend-Conde
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:37:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

' 
' "Life After The Dead"
' 
' weekend of August 22 and 23
' Conde Lumberyard, Harrisburg, OR
' between Eugene and Coburg - Take I5 exit 209
' 
' $5/day
' $15/weekend - includes camping!  
' No re-entry.
' 
' Gates open Saturday at 9pm.  Festival ends Sunday evening.
' 
' Bands:
' 
' Dead Ringers (Tom Constanten + others)
' Little Women
' Clan Dyken
' Renegade Saints
' International Anthem
' Hairy Mamas
' + some surprises
' + many more 
' 
' Other entertainment includes Ken Kesey and his "Magic Bus" and other
' surprises.
' 
' There will be food booths and other vendors.
' 
' There is water on site.
' 
' This is a smaller festival (5000-6000 people) to take the place of the
' cancelled Third Decadenal Field Trip.  It has absolutely nothing to do
' with Oregon Country Fair or Field Trip Productions.  This is a
' community/family event.  The purpose is to recoup some of the economic
' losses to the community and turn an unfortunate situation into a good
' time.
' 
' 
' 
I would like to camp up there.

If you are going up there from SF bay area could I get a ride?
I have some gas $ and a bag.
I would like to go Friday or Saturday morning.

Please phone 415 252 8734 if you can help.

( )

Andrew Rose andyrose@netcom.com FAX 4155537756 When peace rules the planet 


-- 
Andrew Rose andyrose@netcom.com FAX 4155537756 When peace rules the planet
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Fall Tour Rumors (Re: FALL TOUR CANCELLED!-TRUE!)
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:46:39 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

John Greene replies to ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>> Some friends of mine who know Bobby real well just got off the phone with him
>>and its official,no tour. sorry
 
>BULLSHIT.  Don't post rumors.  It's bad for all of us.

In a period like this, when it comes to the show information, the *only* 
reliable sources right now (IMHO) are the GD hotlines.  Please...let's
keep it that way.  I will say that if Fall Tour comes off, I truly hope
it's for the RIGHT reasons:  If Jerry needs that much longer to rest
and regain full health, so be it...for *his* sake.

Two more opinions to toss from a half-asleep mind this morning:

	* - As lip said:  Without Jerry, it just isn't the Grateful Dead.
	* - Based on the rumors of another JGB November tour, I really
		hope that it *doesn't* come off.  I'd rather see Jerry
		use that time, rest, and do whatever he wants.

*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
| John J. Wood                                  jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu  |
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
|			PLEASE GET WELL, JERRY!!!   			     |
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
| "You can't let go, 'cause you're afraid to fall,             		     |
|  And the day may come, when you can feel it all..."			     |
*-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
From: gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Does Garcia etc
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:11:21 GMT
Organization: The Faithful

In article <1992Aug13.150632.7116@nntp.uoregon.edu> nsax.uoregon (Norma Sax) writes:
>lead a happier, more productive life? jerry's not a commodity,
>he's not in service to us. he's not obligated to take better care
>
>so let's give him all the time and space he needs to recover. let's
>stop whining about when the band will play again.

well said Norma!  it's wonderful he's taking care of himself and on the
road to a healthier, stronger, happier, and longer life.
From: 0004903167@mcimail.com (Brian J. Rupert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Bob's *Star* Info/Tape
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:00:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Aug14.190020.7757
Reply-To: 0004903167@mcimail.com
Organization: The Internet


 Does anyone know at what show(s) "Bob's Star" was
 played? -- David Gans played it a couple of years
 ago on the GDH. I'm looking for a crispy copy of the
 show(s) in which it was done.

 As I remember it, Bob's Star was a spacy jam between
 Brent & Bob -- they just kept on playing off of each
 other, and as I recall, Bob added a few lyrics -- "Just
 hang up there and shine..."(?) The other boys were off
 stage I believe when this jam was going on. 

 DG, if you're out there, do you remember playing this
 on one of your GDH's? I'd really appreciate any help
 in finding the tapes & dates of these particular shows.

----- BJR
      
      E-Mail: 490-3167@mcimail.com
      P-Mail: (202) 416-5631
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Fred Harris <fhh@nofs.navy.mil>
Subject: 5-2-70 setlist order correction
Reply-To: fhh@nofs.navy.mil
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:29:13 GMT

jko@bonnie.ics.uci.edu wrote:

|Here is the setlist for 5/2/70 for whoever wanted to check their tape.
Dead set-lists deleted
|New Riders of the Purple Sage Opened
Incorrect! The set order originally was:
   Acoustic Dead
   NRPS
   Electric Dead I & II

This pattern of acoustic Dead, NRPS, then electric Dead holds true
through '70 up through 11-08-70 Portchester.

Fred Harris
From: kowitt@beauty1.lbl.gov (Matthew Kowitt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Binaural Recording (?)
Date: 22 Aug 92 17:14:22 GMT
Reply-To: kowitt@beauty1.lbl.gov
Organization: The Internet

I am trying to find out about a recording technique that I believe is called
"binaural".  Essentially, as I understand it, you record stereo sound from
the point-of-view of two "eardrums" in an acoustic model of a human head.
The effect, when played back through good head phones, is supposed to be a
dramatic and startling realism.

So my question is (1) does anybody know about this, whether it is real, and
if it is as good as I've been told; (2) do any tapers use this technique to
record Dead shows; and (3) if somebody has a good example of a binaural
recording of a show (any show -- I'm interested in hearing the effect
primarily, although a tasty Dead show would be nicest), could they contact
me by e-mail about trading for a copy.

Thanks in advance for any info.

--Matt Kowitt
  kowitt@lbl.gov (Internet) or kowitt@LBL (bitnet)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Bill Sloan <WS3X@cornellc.bitnet>
Subject: When is the life after Dead festival?
Reply-To: WS3X@cornellc.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:47:44 GMT

just kiddddddddding :-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: nsax.uoregon (Norma Sax)
Subject: From Norma:thanx for the thanx
Organization: university of oregon
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 15:59:26 GMT

hey now, what a treat to get all those thanks. thank you so much.
it was definitely my pleasure to interrupt my work to post those
messages. much more fun than work stuff.  i'm just sorry it had
to come to an abrupt and unhappy resolution.

someone suggested a nethead meeting in eugene of those of you
who are coming to oregon anyway.  how many are there? does
anyone else want to do this? i'm not sure if i'll be in the city
next weekend. I think a bunch of us oregon country fairies will
be out at the site deconstructing the stuff we left up after the
fair because we thought we would need it. we'll also be doing security 
because we think a lot of people who don't know the show is
cancelled (hanging out at the hot springs away from the media)
or don't care will show up on the site ready to party.

well, let me know if there is interest in a get together and i'll
figure it out. maybe i can arrange my oh so busy schedule
to be there. i can certainly suggest some places to meet and
set something up.i would love to personally welcome you all to
oregon. i would love, actually, to invite you all out to the site which
you'll appreciate much more with just a few of you instead of 80,000.
no promises, but i'll check it out.

i don't know of any plans to reschedule out at the site but i imagine
it will happen some time. maybe next year. i know the promoters took
quite a bath on this so the money might not be there. get this - kit kesey
(ken's nephew), the main producer, declined to take out concert insurance
just a few days before the cancellation. whew, is he hurting. but...i hear
that the bill graham productions people and the band were really psyched to
play at the fair site, so i wouldn't be surprised if a new date is set. i hear
they were all set to party themselves. it's all so sad, isn't it.

well, here's to jerry and the boys. oh, by the way, you'll appreciate this.
i edit the (internal) newsletter that goes out to the volunteers of the oregon
country fair and i made the the front page of the now-at-the-printers upcoming
edition a get well card to jerry. i said "get well jerry. we'll miss you. your friends
at the oregon country fair." i'm hoping someone he knows will see it (a distinct 
possibility) and pass it on to him.

thanks agin. sorry this is so long, but i'm in the office alone today and have gotten
verbose and in my solitude.


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: TOPIC FOR DISCUSSION: GARCIA'S HEALTH
Organization: NY home for wayward dats
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:11:47 GMT

In article <116046@muvms3.bitnet> rcbi105@muvms3.bitnet (Matt Leary) writes:

>My big thing is that I don't want people coming up to me at a future show and
>giving me hell because I'm smoking a cig.  I hate it when people do that to me
>because if I wanted to hear it I would have asked, and I don't ask.  I respect
>people who don't like smoking in their car or house, but I don't want a lecture
>from someone at a show about it.  I go to see the Dead to enjoy myself and one
>why I do that is smoking.  Like I said, I understand everyone's concern about
>this and I respect what you are doing, I just don't want to be told by 1000
>people to stop smoking the next time I light up at a show.  

Well, then, you should really avoid attending any indoor shows on the
East Coast, where smoking is not only offensive but also illegal.  I
like to attend shows too, and I have to be able to breathe in order to
do so.

Of course, if your attitude is "I'll do whatever maximizes my
enjoyment and I don't care if I cause someone else problems by doing
it" then you have to accept that I have the same attitude and will
maximize my enjoyment by getting you thrown out of the show.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com


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