From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Subject: Ajax-Vitesse (Re: # UK fans, PLEASE GO! #)
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:26:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.162804.10187@st-andrews.ac.uk> dmg@st-andrews.ac.uk (David Gill) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.115640.14311@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>>mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
>>
>>>In article <1993Jan21.010042.6383@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, pampa@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (ruben.a.mazzulla) writes:
>>
>>>oh well. We in the UK will just piss off so you can get through the messages
>>
>>
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>>>John B at the DIT
>>><e-mail : mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk.
>>>FORZA MILAN!!!   FORZA DUNDEE!!!   FORZA SAO PAULO!!!
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>>
>>You still don't get it? English soccer is technically and tactically INFERIOR
>>to European soccer. It's a lot of trouble first having to get through all 
>>that only-important-to-you crap, so why don't you just create an own newsgroup?
>>Or aren't there enough English soccer-fans to do that?
>>
>>Greetings from Europe!
>>
>>
>>-- 

>You still persist with this!
>Yet Dutch football is useless! There is a massive difference in class between
>the top 3 and the rest - yet even in the top 3 only one (Ajax) has a good
>record.
>Psv and Feyenoord are only average by European standards!
>The football is predictable and boring to watch- thats why hardly anyone
>watches it and most top Dutch players play abroad!
>
>As for enough English or Scottish fans - how many Dutch fans are there?
>Or is Dutch football so boring that they never bother to write?

Oh no, there is more than just one dutch football fan who's writing on the 
net. One of the first statements you make: 'Dutch football is crap'. Off
course this statement is nonsense as the statement 'UK football is crap' is.
I think, and this is statement is not a chauvinistic one, Dutch football
has produced the best football players of the world last decade. They
should be ashamed not  winning the EC 92 and the WC 90. But if
you are only able to motivate yourself if you have to play Germany then
there's something completely wrong. 
  Your second statement is completely right. Ajax is by far the best and
most impressive dutch team. Almost all the big dutch players have played
for Ajax and the way they play the game is unique, not only in the Netherlands
but also in the world. Working with a budget that's incomparable to
other teams (PSV and the rest of Europe) they are doing very well. Maybe 
this sounds very pretentious but after teh first brilliant match Ajax 
played last night in the competition I am maybe exaggerating a little bit. 
But if you (satelite dishes) are able to see the match Ajax-Vitesse you should
watch it. A fantastic goal of Dennis Bergkamp, controling a long pass in one
touch and chiping the ball over the goalkeeper. But the history is repeating
itself and he will leave Ajax like it happened to many others. 
  Last night the performance of the Danish winger Dan Petersen was very good.
If he doesn't get injured I expect him to playe for the Danish national
team very soon. 
  After I arrived home I watched the English matches of last night 
(Villa-Sheffield, Man. Utd. - Nottingham) and one Italian (Milan-Inter)
match. All the matches were enjoyable and who cares about tactics and 
technical skills if the matches are enjoyable to watch. League
matches are mostly far more enjoyable than these boring international
games where not losing is the main aim. Dutch football boring? Yes
if you see the entourage in the other countries I can understand that
they want to play somehwere else. 

Louis