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From: wohler@sapwdf.UUCP (Bill Wohler)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: default slocal delivery script
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:17:08 GMT
Reply-To: Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de>
Organization: SAP AG, Walldorf, Germany

he@spurv.runit.sintef.no (Havard Eidnes) writes:
>In article <ALBERTO.92Apr3143242@konark.cs.umd.edu>, alberto@cs.umd.edu (Jose Alberto Fernandez R) writes:
>|> I use this very simple code to get the same results. I have been
>|> working fine for at least a month.
>|> 
>|> This is the .maildelivery lines:
>|> -------------------------------
>|> # Default is to deliver it to the mailbox in the mbox format
>|> # Since SLOCAL does not know how to do it, I doit by hand.
>|> default, -, |, ?, "(sed '1s/>From/From/';echo) >>/var/spool/mail/alberto"
>|> #End of Mail Delivery.

>Is this safe?  Does it lock the mailbox?  Does it have to?  Why not use
>"/bin/mail -d" (no, I haven't tried that myself...)?

  i'm not hip on the locking problems, but others who try this should
  be cautioned.  witness a comment from my .maildelivery file (those
  are real ^A's by the way that have been edited as '^' and 'A':

  # The next line was an attempt to create sendmail-style mailboxes
  # rather than the MMDF-style for compatibility with /usr/ucb/Mail.
  # The sed script is right, but doesn't seem to work when called with slocal.
  #
  #default  - 	| ? "sed -e '1s/>From /From /' -e '/^A^A^A^A/d' -e '/Delivery-Date/d' >> /usr/spool/mail/wohler
  default	-	> ? /usr/spool/mail/wohler

  perhaps it was the echo that was missing or that i didn't need to
  get rid of the ^A's.

Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de> <sapwdf!wohler>
Heidelberg Red Barons Ultimate Frisbee Team
From: adram@ocf.berkeley.edu (R. P. Aditya)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: mh-e and aliases
Date: 12 Apr 92 17:16:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.s9r9lINNr28
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

I am having trouble getting mh-e to recognize my aliases even though I know
mh does recognize my aliases, not only through ali but also using send from
the command line. mh-e was translating my aliases properly and then a few days
ago, I might have added two new aliases, it stopped translating them and saves
all my messages as dead.letter. I use m to create a message, type in the alias at
the To: then do a C-c C-c to send the message, I have verbose turned on so I 
immediately see in the *mh-temp* window whether the message has been successfully
sent or not...it works when I don't use aliases, but otherwise it just says
recipient unknown....the strange thing is that it works from the command line and
not from mh-e and that too, only recently have I had this problem.
I have checked my .mh_profile and even tried setting different permissions on
my .aliases file (600, 644 etc.) to no avail...

any clues?
my alias file follows the format:

alias: real@address

there are about 14 addresses thus defined.

thanks,

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: Marc VanHeyningen <mvanheyn@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Adding headers with the mail sending mechanism
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:43:21 -0500

(Sorry if this is a trivial question, but I did RTFM and RTFFAQ and
didn't see it in either.)

Suppose I wish to add the header

X-Foo: bar

to my outgoing mail.  However, I'd prefer not to just put this line in
my components file, since I don't want to have to deal with it when I am
editing the message; in fact, I would prefer that it show up in the sent
mail message, but not in the copy put into a folder via Fcc:.

I should mention this is running under Ultrix where send uses smtp, if
that matters.  I know that elm and mail and such can just use a
customized front-end to sendmail; is there something like that for MH?
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From: hymowitz@SERVER.CS.JHU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: return receipt requested
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:22:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9204161823.AA09752
Organization: The Incredibly Huge Corporation


hello.

i think i heard/read/fabricated that one could send mail via mh and
receive a return receipt when the recipient receives and/or reads the
message.  is this true, and if so, how does one do it?  i tried
rtfm-ing, but i couldn't find anything.

fyi, here is my version info.
version: MH 6.7 #7[UCI] (server) of Wed Sep 5 11:51:30 EDT 1990
options: [BSD42] [BERK] [TTYD] [DUMB] [MHE] [NETWORK] [BIND] [RPATHS]
         [SBACKUP='"#"'] [FOLDPROT='"0700"'] [MSGPROT='"0600"'] [BANG]
         [ATZ] [ISI] [MHRC] [WHATNOW] [SENDMTS]

thanx in advance.

--hymie
hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
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From: jung@gandlf.gs.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: mh-users-request
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:53:22 GMT
Organization: The Internet

please add me to the MH-users mailing list
From: trost@reed.edu (Bill Trost)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: popd writing mbox in MMDF format
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:16:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: romulus.m0lXyEU-0003G1C
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

Ag, here we go again....

I'm running popd from MH 6.7.1 on a DS5500 (the rest of MH is 6.7.2 --
popd didn't work).  When popd writes back the maildrop, it's writing
in in mmdf format (the ^A's separating messages).  I've tried making
changes to mmdelim[12] in .../lib/mh/mtstailor, but then I end up with
weerd garbage like:

  From Grom root Mon Apr  6 11:10:41 1992

(mangled "From " lines, in other words).  This one was using
"mmdelim1:	From\040".

What gives?  Can I make this do what I want it to (which is not
necessarily confused with "The Right Thing"(tm)  :-)  ).

Thanks for the help.
From: markcon@sydvm1.vnet.ibm.com (Mark Connell)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: MH 6.7.2 with AIX 3.1/3.2
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:09:03 GMT
Reply-To: markcon@sydvm1.vnet.ibm.com
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: 8th April 1992, 6:43pm EST.

I did not see any postings re my request for a conf/MH file or options
settings to compile 6.7.2 on AIX (3.2 or 3.1).
Has anybody built 6.7.2 on AIX 3.2 or 3.1 ?
I'd appreciate any help I can get.

Thanks,


Mark Connell                           E-Mail:markcon@sydvm1.vnet.ibm.com
APC Melbourne, IBM Australia
From: sastry@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Sastry A V R R)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Xmh help wanted..
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:27:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36298
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


Hi
	This may be a trivial question. I am relatively new to
xmh.

	I was trying to customize my xmh so that whenver I click 
Reply under messages menu, I will have the original message included
without the header, and with a right angle bracket at the start of
each line.

	The reference manual says this following line should be 
included in the RESOURCE file (?? This is my doubt).

	xmh*ReplyInsertFilter: sed -e "1,/^$/d" -e "s/^/> /"

I tried including this line in .mh_profile file. It didn't work.

Could xmh gurus suggest me how to do this? I mean, where to include
this shell command?

Thanks a lot.

-Sastry
(sastry@cse.ogi.edu)
From: smitty@es.com (Maurice Smith)
Subject: Re: repl command, cc: and Fcc:
Reply-To: smitty@dsd.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 15:13:25 GMT


-- 
In article <1992Apr12.102146.10193@topaz.ucq.edu.au>, faggk@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
|> How can I have cc: appear in the heading of a message when using the repl
|> command and not have it default to one of all/to/cc/me ie have cc: followed by a
|> blank so that if I wish I can add an address to that line.
|> 
|> I had been using the -cc me option in the .mh-profile file but now prefer to
|> use Fcc: to capture a copy of the message replied to.  The incorporation of cc:
|> and Fcc: into comp and forw were straight forward but I cannot achieve the same 
|> for repl.
|> 
|> I suspect that the answer lies in modifying replcomps but do I do not know how
|> to make the modification.
|> 
|> Thanks
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> --
|> Kevin Fagg                                  AARNET: K_Fagg@jade.ucq.edu.au
|> School of Business                          Phone:  +61 79 309532 
|> University of Central Queensland    	    Fax:    +61 79 309700


CHANGE 

%(lit)%(formataddr %<{reply-to}%|%<{from}%|%<{sender}%|%<{return-path}%>%>%>%>)\%<(nonnull)%(void(width))%(putaddr To: )\n%>\
%(lit)%(formataddr{to})%(formataddr{cc})%(formataddr(me))\
%<(nonnull)%(void(width))%(putaddr cc: )\n%>\
%<{fcc}Fcc: %{fcc}\n%>\
%<{subject}Subject: Re: %{subject}\n%>\
%<{date}In-reply-to: Your message of "\
%<(nodate{date})%{date}%|%(pretty{date})%>."%<{message-id}
             %{message-id}%>\n%>\

TO

%(lit)%(formataddr %<{reply-to}%|%<{from}%|%<{sender}%|%<{return-path}%>%>%>%>)\%<(nonnull)%(void(width))%(putaddr To: )\n%>\
%(lit)%(formataddr{to})%(formataddr{cc})%(formataddr(me))\
%<(nonnull)%(void(width))%(putaddr cc: )\n%>\
%<{fcc}Fcc: %{fcc}\n%>\
Fcc: Some-Folder-Name
%<{subject}Subject: Re: %{subject}\n%>\
%<{date}In-reply-to: Your message of "\
%<(nodate{date})%{date}%|%(pretty{date})%>."%<{message-id}
             %{message-id}%>\n%>\


replcomps main function is the same as forwcomps and components.  That is,
provide the "wrapper" for the message.  This means that you may add headers
exactly in the same manner as forwcomps and components.  All the "%<" etc
stuff is the mhformat commands that allow conditional formating and inclusion
of headers/info from the original message.

======================================================================
 Maurice Smith                     |  "It's easier to believe in God than to
 smitty@dsd.es.com  (use it!)      |   accept the blame ourselves."
 Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp. |  -- Solomon Short
 Salt Lake City, Utah              |  #include <standard_disclaimer>
From: mike@domsys.com (Mike Pelletier)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: POP client for IBM PC-compatibles...
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:49:53 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Anyone know where I can get ahold of a PC POP client?  I've
been looking through the archie lists without much luck, so
if anyone knows where I can get ahold of a halfway decent
piece of such software, let me know so I don't have to bog
down archie anymore...  :-)  Thanks!

	-Mike.
From: lmr@GARFIELD.FE.UP.PT (Ligia Ribeiro, FEUP, 351-02-2770505 ext. 1774)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: New version of "rmmer" from "MH & xmh" Nutshell Handbook
Date: 6 Apr 92 09:00:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: garf.199204060900.AA27363
Organization: The Internet

Yes, I would like a copy of rmmer
Thank you
Ligia Ribeiro
From: mikem+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (Michael Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: How pass arguments to repl in Xmh?
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:50:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I'm trying to get used to using Xmh and have one problem I can't solve.
I would like to have two buttons that allow me to reply to messages. 
Lets call one "reply" and the other "reply.sender".   When I push the
reply button I'd like the message to be sent to everyone (and I can do
this with appropriate entries in my .mh_profile).  When I push
reply.sender I'd like the reply to go only to the sender.  At the shell
level I can do this with appropriate arguement to the repl command.  
How do I do this in Xmh (short of editing the reply window)?
The more general question is how to set up buttons in Xmh that will pass
arguments to the relevent mh commands.

Thanks,
--Mike
Mike Meyer, Department of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: kelly@netcom.com (Kelly Goen)
Subject: Re: mail forwarding
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 07:27:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <9203301426.AA12729@northstar.dartmouth.edu> irvin@northstar.dartmouth.edu writes:
>
>In message <1992Mar30.030034.15024@convex.com> you write:
>
>> If you are interested, I have a set of perl scripts that replace
>> slocal/deliver; if you can program in perl and are familiar
>> with rcvtty, rcvdist, rcvstore, etc. you can write a very complex
>> mail forward and receiving system to do just about anything. 
>> 
>> FYI - I will attach the README - the code is being beta testing by several
>> coworkers here at CONVEX; when I feel like things are pretty stable and
>> I have completed some other convenience utilities, I will post it to the
>> net. If you want to try it before then, I can email you a shar
>> beta testing kit.
 Not to be a me too...
but ME TOO!!! Please!! thanx in advance!!
    cheers
    kelly

Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: dv@cc-mac.nbn.com (David Vezie)
Subject: Setting incoming/outgoing filters
Keywords: filter
Organization: Computer Concepts
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:46:36 GMT

I send some email with people overseas, and much of my mail needs to
be converted between different character sets (it's western europe,
so most of the characters are correct, it's just a few that are
different).  I need to figure out a way to have a pair of filters
automatically run on each message, one for incoming mail (to convert
their characters to a form I can see), and one for outgoing mail
(to convert my characters to a form they can see).  The filters are
simple sed scripts.

Can anyone give me some tips on how to do this automatically?  I've
read FAQ 30, but that's not automatic.
-- 
--
David Vezie, Student, Sonoma State University
dv@sonoma.edu,dv@cc-mac.nbn.com,dv@xnet.ssl.berkeley.edu,dv@well.sf.ca.us,
well!unicom!dv,dv@symbion.dk
From: faggk@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: repl command, cc: and Fcc:
Date: 12 Apr 92 10:21:46 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

How can I have cc: appear in the heading of a message when using the repl
command and not have it default to one of all/to/cc/me ie have cc: followed by a
blank so that if I wish I can add an address to that line.

I had been using the -cc me option in the .mh-profile file but now prefer to
use Fcc: to capture a copy of the message replied to.  The incorporation of cc:
and Fcc: into comp and forw were straight forward but I cannot achieve the same 
for repl.

I suspect that the answer lies in modifying replcomps but do I do not know how
to make the modification.

Thanks

-- 

--
Kevin Fagg                                  AARNET: K_Fagg@jade.ucq.edu.au
School of Business                          Phone:  +61 79 309532 
University of Central Queensland    	    Fax:    +61 79 309700
From: jos@bull.nl (Jos Vos)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: return receipt requested
Date: 17 Apr 92 08:35:25 GMT
Organization: The Internet

> i think i heard/read/fabricated that one could send mail via mh and
> receive a return receipt when the recipient receives and/or reads the
> message.  is this true, and if so, how does one do it?  i tried
> rtfm-ing, but i couldn't find anything.

This is a feature sendmail (the transport agent) implements: when it
delivers a message to someone's mailbox (or something similar, like
piping it to slocal), it sends an acknowledge message to the address
specified in the Return-Receipt-To: header field (if present).
Note: the ack is send at delivery time, not at reading time.
In UNIX, with all its different user agents (MH, Elm, Mush, mailx/Mail,
mail), impossible to implement.

As far as I know MMDF (another transport agent) does not implement this.

So, it has nothing to do with MH (being a user agent).

-- 
--    Jos Vos <jos@bull.nl>   (UUCP: ...!{uunet,mcsun,sun4nl}!nlbull!jos)
--    Bull Nederland NV, Product Support Unix, Amsterdam, The Netherlands
From: mike@domsys.com (Mike Pelletier)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Getting the MH POP server to work under SCO UNIX...
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:16:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Does anyone have any experience in this area?  If so, could you
send me some information about what you did to get it to work?
The way I have it set up right now, it's getting errors in stdio.h --
don't you just hate it when that happens?  My main concern is the
POP server, so if you have suggestions for a server other than the
MH one, I'd be happy to hear them, but I also wouldn't mind having
MH available here.  Thanks...

--
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Systems Technician		| "High Performance Computer Systems"
				|     SCO Advanced Product Center
				|	   (313) 971-1210
From: rickert@mp.cs.niu.edu (Neil Rickert)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Preventing header forwarding in 'dist'.
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:59:21 GMT
Organization: Northern Illinois University


 Is there an easy way of controlling which headers are included when a
message is resent with 'dist'?

 Specifically, I would prefer not to send the headers added by MH as annotation,
and I would prefer not to send the "Return-Path:" provided by the RPATHS
option, since it technically violates the RFC822 requirements.

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  Northern Illinois Univ.
  DeKalb, IL 60115                                   +1-815-753-6940
From: irvin@NORTHSTAR.DARTMOUTH.EDU (Tim Irvin)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: How pass arguments to repl in Xmh?
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:52:40 GMT
Reply-To: irvin@northstar.dartmouth.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


In message <MdvNF2G00VRUE3WkMf@andrew.cmu.edu> you write:

> I'm trying to get used to using Xmh and have one problem I can't solve.
> I would like to have two buttons that allow me to reply to messages. 
> Lets call one "reply" and the other "reply.sender".   When I push the
> reply button I'd like the message to be sent to everyone (and I can do
> this with appropriate entries in my .mh_profile).  When I push
> reply.sender I'd like the reply to go only to the sender.  At the shell
> level I can do this with appropriate arguement to the repl command.  
> How do I do this in Xmh (short of editing the reply window)?
> The more general question is how to set up buttons in Xmh that will pass
> arguments to the relevent mh commands.
> 
> Thanks,
> --Mike
> Mike Meyer, Department of Statistics, Carnegie Mellon University

Get pub/xmh.diffs.shar.Z from cs.utk.edu.  These patches will create a couple
of new functions, that can be used in you .Xdefaults--xmh section.  One is
XmhUserMhComm(command) this runs the <command> providing the current message
and folder as arguments (ex.: command +inbox 213), the other is
XmhUserComm(command), which simply runs <command>.  Using these you
will have to open up a window to run the command in.  So for instance
in my .Xdefaults file I have the following:

 Xmh*commandBox.button8.label:  Reply
 Xmh*commandBox.button8.translations: #override\n\
        <Btn1Down>,<Btn1Up>: XmhReply()unset()\n\
        <Btn3Down>,<Btn3Up>: XmhUserMhComm(mhterm -e repl)


Which means if I click on the "Reply" button with mouse button 1 I get the
xmh reply window, but if I use button 3 then an xterm starts and the
mh command repl is run within it (with the current folder and message passed
as arguments).  

Tim Irvin
Project NORTHSTAR
Dartmouth College
From: orf@scrap.ssec.wisc.edu (Leigh Orf)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Subject: 2 Xmh questions
Keywords: athena, editor, scroll, reverse-sort, how?
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:50:16 GMT
Organization: Space Science and Engineering Center, UW Madison


I am a beginning user of Xmh, and after searching the man pages, I have not
found answers to two questions. I just read the FAQ list and saw nothing
pertaining to either question.

First, I simply want my mail to come in with the most recent mail on top,
instead of on the bottom in the inbox window that contains the subject
header and the first few words of text. I see no 'reverse sort' option or 
anything similar.

My second question is about the Athena Text editor. I know that it scrolls so
you don't have to hit a carriage return at the end of each line, which is 
great, but if you want to insert text in the middle of a paragraph, the text
to the right of the cursor eventualy goes 'past' the window and a horizontal
scroll bar appears. What would be ideal is more of a word-processor setup
where as you inserted text, the whole paragraph scrolled to the right and you
inserted all of your text without having to worry about how much text you 
insert to make the right margin relatively smooth (one of the reasons I hate 
the vi editor is that inserting text in a paragraph involves much pain and 
distress). It seems that it inserts a carriage return at the end of each line.
Is there a way to get around this?

Thanks, 

leigh


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Leigh Orf          orf@meteor.wisc.edu
Atmospheric & Oceanic Science Dept. <--> Space Science & Engineering Cntr.
University of Wisconsin    Madison, WI  (608)265-2324
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: davidf@golem.uucp (David J. Fiander)
Subject: Re: A small problem with timezones under System V
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 17:22:01 GMT

According to cliff@sfn.ORG (R. Cliff Young):
>
>David, my recommendation (unless you want to patch it or someone else
>does) is to remove ATZ *and* TZNAME from your MH config and recompile

Already done.

>it.  Sure, you'll end up with numeric timezone codes rather than
>alphabetic, but pretty printing *those* works fine.  Besides, people

I _like_ numeric timezones.  That was the cause of my other
complaint.  Even if ATZ and TZNAME are both off, North American
timezones are still printed in alpha format, mostly because of
a couple of calls directly to the address formatted which (I
think) should be calls to the macro which selects the proper
format based on the compile-time choice.

- David
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: Martin Streicher <strike@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: return receipt requested
Originator: strike@pixel.convex.com
Reply-To: strike@convex.COM (Martin Streicher)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Visualization Development
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:55:12 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <9204161823.AA09752@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, 
hymowitz@SERVER.CS.JHU.EDU writes:
|
|i think i heard/read/fabricated that one could send mail via mh and
|receive a return receipt when the recipient receives and/or reads the
|message.  is this true, and if so, how does one do it?  i tried
|rtfm-ing, but i couldn't find anything.
|

You can get a receipt when the mail is delivered to the recipient.
Just add the line:

	Return-Receipt-To: hymowitz@server.cs.jhu.edu

to the headers (to, cc, et. al.) of your message. When the 
system on the end delivers your mail successfully, you will
be mailed an ack to your address.

I dont know of any way to get notification when the mail is
physically read by the recipient.


-- 
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silent. You are warned that anything you say can and will be taken down and 
used as evidence against you.  Listen to this. Run.
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