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From: Glenn_Chin@engr.usask.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Changing attitudes of Canadian sports fans
Date: 12 Jan 1993 19:01:35 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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I hope these aren't old r.s.h topics.

TSN sportscasters recently mentioned a couple of items in passing that piqued my
curiosity.  A survey shows that the Nordiques are more
popular than the Canadiens in the province of Quebec!  I'm interested in
seeing more details of this survey if possible.  Back in around 1983 and 1984,
many fans in attendance at the Colisee in Quebec City cheered when the Habs
scored.  To what extent is this still true?

Another thing:  Michael Jordan is the most popular athlete in
Canada!  The fact that Gretzky and Lemieux are playing in the US hurts
their exposure in their native country.  I figure after Jordan's best days
are over, the next most popular athlete in Canada from hockey will be one of
Bure, Daigle, Sakic, Selanne, and Sundin.  Of course, Stanley Cups are a
prerequisite, which may exclude Daigle until the turn of the century.

Glenn
From: nmcglynn@buffalo.axion.bt.co.uk (Neil A. McGlynn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: UK-HOCKEY : Christmas and New Year Results (4 Jan 93)
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:46:31 GMT
Reply-To: nmcglynn@axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Labs
Organisation: BT Laboratories, Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH UK


Premier Division (36 game schedule)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

         Fife Flyers  4-9 Murrayfield Racers
 Humberside Seahawks  7-3 Bracknell Bees
      Bracknell Bees  7-3 Nottingham Panthers
      Cardiff Devils 11-2 Peterborough Pirates
        Durham Wasps  9-2 Fife Flyers
  Murrayfield Racers 14-8 Billingham Bombers
    Whitley Warriors  9-7 Humberside Seahawks

         Fife Flyers  4-3 Durham Wasps
Peterborough Pirates  5-7 Cardiff Devils
 Nottingham Panthers 11-6 Billingham Bombers
      Bracknell Bees  8-4 Peterborough Pirates
      Cardiff Devils  4-7 Humberside Seahawks
        Durham Wasps 14-8 Nottingham Panthers
  Murrayfield Racers  5-3 Fife Flyers
    Whitley Warriors  3-9 Billingham Bombers

                      P  W  L D  GF  GA Pt      %	
Cardiff Devils       17 13  3 1 146  84 27   	79.4    
Murrayfield Racers   19 12  6 1 174 129 25	65.8	
Whitley Warriors     20 11  9 0 146 160 22	55.0	
Bracknell Bees       20  9  9 2 114 109 20	50.0	
Fife Flyers          22 10 12 0 131 144 20	45.5	
Humberside Seahawks  18  9  9 0 105 104 18	50.0	
Peterborough Pirates 18  7 11 0 124 133 14	38.8	
Durham Wasps         18  8  9 1 121 111 17	47.2	
Nottingham Panthers  19  7 10 2 138 153 16	42.1	
Billingham Bombers   21  5 13 3 148 205 11	26.2  


Division One (32 game schedule)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     Slough Jets  0-9  Sheffield Steelers
Lee Valley Lions 10-10 Telford Tigers
 Romford Raiders  5-9  Sheffield Steelers

                      P  W D  L  GF  GA  P
Basingstoke Beavers  18 16 1  1 196  84 33
Sheffield Steelers   16 10 2  4 142 101 22
Milton Keynes Kings  15  9 3  3 133  79 21
Swindon Wildcats     17  8 2  7 125 129 18
Telford Tigers       17  7 3  7 136 121 17
Slough Jets          16  4 3  9  93 116 11
Medway Bears         16  6 1  9  98 122 13
Romford Raiders      16  3 2 11 105 133  8
Lee Valley Lions     19  2 1 14 107 239  5


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL Skills Competition: Iafrate Breaks 100 Barrier
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:23:50 MST
 <vzhivov.726378090@cunews> <1993Jan7.053603.18065@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1993Jan7.053603.18065@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
> In article <vzhivov.726378090@cunews> vzhivov@alfred.carleton.ca (Vladimir Zhivov) writes:
>>
>>I am certain of that. Also, Al MacInnis of the Flames definitely has a
>>harder (and faster) shot than Iafrate. All the players in this
>>preliminary competition have really inflated numbers - for instance
>>Paul Ranheim won the Flames comp. with a shot over 97 mph - come on!
>>This leads me to believe that the players were allowed to skate into
>>the shot - MacInnis beat out Iafrate at the All-Star game with a shot
>>of 95.4 mph from a standing position. I would suggest that MacInnis,
>>had he not been sidelined, would have easily topped the 100 mph mark
>>and been ahead of Iafrate.
> 
> The last time that Iafrate was at the All-star game, he won the hardest
> shot competition and beat Al MacInnis.  I think Heavy Metal Al also
> won the speed-skating competition that year also.

Are you certain of that? I can't remember anybody ever beating MacInnis in the
All-Star game hardest shot competition. It's only been held for three years...

"Heavy Metal Al"....I thought Iafrate's nickname was the self-coined "Human
Highlight Film". What an ego. Jeez....

								Alan
From: hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Tappara Juniors/Teemu Numminen
Date: 11 Jan 93 07:14:21 GMT
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.

Tappara Junior team started the qualification serie by defeating
SaiPa (Lappeenranta) by 8:0 ! Teemu Numminen scored 1+1.

If I remember it right there are eight teams in this qualification
serie and four best teams will play in the SM Junior League next
season. This means that the Tappara juniors are trying to keep
themselves at the highest level of Finnish junior hockey!

Also Jokerit (ex-team of Selanne) started the qualification with
a handsome win. It is rather strange that teams like Tappara and
Jokerit, which have been famous for their juniors, now have to
play the qualifications...

/Hannu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Alex = scoring machine
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 07:13:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.004700.25460@ncsu.edu> Perry@mte.ncsu.edu (Bill Perry) writes:
>	Alex Mogilny now has 36 goals in 38 games, and 5 hat tricks for the season. 
>Does anyone know if he got the contract he wanted?  If not, then the poor
>Sabres will have to come up with even more $$.
>

Actually it is 36 goals in 32 games (he has missed six games) and I think
38 goals in 33 games after tonight...since I think he got two more on
Sunday...

...does anyone know if games missed through injury count in the fastest
fifty goals record...if they don't he has a shot at Gretzky's 50 goals
in 39? games.

Gerald


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From: su@eedsp.gatech.edu (Jonathan Su)
Subject: Re: Mon/Har empty netter
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:23:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.082959.25711@cs.ucf.edu> wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
>Before my question...
>
>For those who didn't see it, Hartford pulled the goalie on a delayed penalty
>and shot the puck from behind the Montreal goal right down the center of
>the ice to score in their own goal. If I heard on the news right, it made
>the score 6-1 and the final was 7-5. So it was the game winner (using the
>dumb def. of a game winner). Maybe someone who saw it can say more.
>
>So, my question: Gosselin was at the bench and skated back toward the goal
>nowhere near saving the puck. What if he had saved it? Obviously it could be a
>too-many-men-on-the-ice penalty. But is it just a 2-minute minor? It's a nice
>trade: no goal and 4v4 since both teams get a penalty. Does this fall under
>the penalty shot rule?

Don't think it was a penalty shot.  However, even if Gosselin or the 
Hartford bench got a minor for too-many-men-on-the-ice, it would be washed
out by the goal.  I think the Montreal penalty would still have to be served.

-- 
Jonathan Su
Georgia Tech, School of Electrical Engineering, Atlanta, GA  30332-0250
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From: gomer+@pitt.edu (Richard J Coyle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Lemieux......Hodgkin's
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:55:36 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: gomer@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu


Local news is reporting that Mario Lemieux has been diagnosed with
Hodgkin's Disease following a lymph node biopsy earlier this week.
Hodgkin's basically is a form of cancer that originates in the lymph
node system, and depending on the extent of it's spread it is generally
treated with  chemotherapy and/or radiation.  It happens to be one of
the few cancers that really is treatable, and depending on other
circumstances can have a cure rate as high as 90% or so. 

Let's keep our fingers crossed for the Big Guy, folks.  All of this
makes the Stanley Cup seem rather unimportant.

rick
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Lightning buried in snow again (TB vs. Vancouver 1/4)
Keywords: Gretzky's return, TB bombed
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 08:11:35 GMT

I forgot to mention that in the game against Edmonton, Bradley's goal was his
100th career goal and Tucker's assist was his 200th career assist. Shayne
Stevenson was called up for that game too.

It has been announced that Wayne Gretzky will play his first game this season
against TB on 1/6. As if TB needed any more distractions in their big road
slide, all eyes in the hockey world will be focused on this game. Of course,
once again it's not on local TV.

Well, the game against Vancouver wasn't on TV either so here are the
crappy-radio-reception game notes. Vancouver has one of the best home records
and hasn't lost in its last 16 at home. TB has done little on the road trip
except for the first game in Boston. This game was postponed one day because
of snow, but it didn't do TB any good.

In the first period, Dirk scored from Ronning and Momesso at 11:15 to give
Vancouver a 1-0 lead.

In the second period, Sandlak, Bure, and Ward scored to make the lead 4-0.
Ward's goal was shorthanded. Shots were 16-23 at this point.

In the third, play was pretty chippy with several fights. Adams scored from
Bure and Semenov (ex-TB player) at 2:54 and Ward from Odjick at 3:32 to really
blow it open. Bure topped off the slaughter at 8:34. The rest of the period
was violent, but it ended 7-0. Shots were 27-40.

Crisp said that the goalie situation would be ironed out at the end of the
road trip. The announcers said that Jablonski played well even though he gave
up 7. Bergeron played well in Edmonton. I still feel that Young might be the
odd guy out. I hoping that Crisp will trade whomever he decides is not needed
to try to get another scorer. Although I hate to think that TB should make the
playoffs, they can at least give it shot by staying in it as long as possible.
The good news is that after the road trip, TB will have 14 road games, 23 home
games, and one neutral site game (where they are "home") left. They'll have to
do some serious damage to Toronto and St. Louis as well. Oh well, I'm pissing
off Scott with all of this playoffs talk 8-).

Tom
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From: drake@dragon.cpe.ulowell.edu (Frank Drake)
Subject: Re: BOSTON: Reason for Bourque's Unhappiness?
Organization: University of Massachusetts Lowell
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:07:19 GMT

In article <19496@mindlink.bc.ca> Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong) writes:
>I hear that Bourque is upset with Bruins' management. When did this happened?
>What caused it? Has it been overplayed in the media?
I heard the same rumor. The local papers have both Sinden and Bourque
denying anything of the sort. Bourque has always said that he'd like to
finish his career in Boston. I don't think anything has changed.

Frank

--
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University of Massachusetts Lowell
Center for Productivity Enhancement                               (508)934-2630
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: leafs (PLAYOFFS and EXPANSION DRAFT)
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:00:23 GMT

> Does anyone think the leafs will make the playoffs this year?
> Or even win the Stanley Cup?
 
IMO...
 
I think the Leafs will finish in 3rd place in the Norris and take 
Detroit in 6 or seven games.
 
If they face Chicago in the second round they'll lose -- probably in 4 
or 5.  If they face Minnisota in the second round, they'll win in 6.
 
After that they'll lose to Vancouver, maybe Calgary.
 
Keep in mind that I'm making these predictions with the Leafs' current
line-up (ie. Grant Fuhr in net) -- however, it's entirely likely that
Fuhr won't be a Leaf come playoff time.  And if the Leafs are forced 
to trade Fuhr (because of the expansion draft) they new players would
probably cause me to re-evaluate.
 
Speaking of the expansion draft and that each team can only protect 
1 goalie, is it possible that the Leafs could make a deal with another 
team that would benefit both during the draft and then swap the 
players back to their original teams afterwards?
 
For example, (as far as I know) each team can protect 9 forwards, 5 
defenseman, and 1 goalie.  So, let's say Buffalo had 6 defenceman and
0 goalie they wanted to protect and Toronto had 4 defencemen and 2 
goalies they wanted to protect.  Could Toronto trade a goalie (Potvin) 
to Buffalo for defenceman-x, either team could protect said players,
and then at the end of the season they could trade the players back to 
their original teams?  
 
I know it's theoretically possible, but would this be legal?  Who the 
NHL management come down on the teams for pulling something like this?
 
I think that Fletcher wouldn't mind trading Fuhr, but I think he'd 
like to keep him at least for this year's playoffs.
 
Stephen Leaf, er... Legge
SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Jagr/Ruzicka/Klima
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:13:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.035935.3611@wam.umd.edu> mstern@wam.umd.edu (Michael Stern) writes:

>>Johan Garpenlov:	Good work ethics.
>
>Mr. Garpenlov is not a Czech or a Slovak.  As a matter of fact he isn't
>even of a Slavic nationality.  he happens to be Swedish.  Get your facts
>straight.

Hmmm...  I stand corrected.  A mental mistake.  Of course I know that Garpenlov
is Swedish, but for some reason, his name popped out for a moment...

===============================================================================
GO CALGARY FLAMES!  Mike Vernon for Vezina!  Gary Roberts for Hart and Selke!
GO EDMONTON OILERS!  Go for playoffs!  Dave Manson for Norris!
GO OTTAWA SENATORS!  Norm MacIver for Norris!  Alexander Daigle for Calder
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:39:51 CST
From: <U16028@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Whaddya mean Bossy never got 50 in 50!

In article <qsg2wB2w165w@student.business.uwo.ca>,
s4lawren@student.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence) says:
>
>        Bossy couldn't shoot his way out of a wet paper bag and Maurice
>couldn't carry my jockstrap!  Whine, Mario and Brett are the only ones to
>get 50 in 50 and probably will hold the record for a while.
>
>        Steve "Lindros looked good in cuffs" Lawrence
>
>s4lawren@student.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence)
>Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Your joking, aren't you, you sly devil!

Everyone on Earth knows that The Great One scored 50 goals in the first
30something games during the season when he scored 92.  So 50 in 50 isn't
much of a record for Mario and Brett to hold.

Terry
U16028@uicvm.uic.edu
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From: s4lawren@student.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Whaddya mean Bossy never got 50 in 50!
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:27:37 GMT

> >>Maurice Richard's "unattainable" feat.  Made HUGE headlines everywhere.
> >>Since Wayne and Mario and Brett and everyone else started achieving 50 in 5
> >>the mark just doesn't have the same kind of status.
> 
> My memory is a little foggy on this, but didn't he do that as a rookie?
> 
> -- Lydia
> -- 

        Bossy couldn't shoot his way out of a wet paper bag and Maurice 
couldn't carry my jockstrap!  Whine, Mario and Brett are the only ones to 
get 50 in 50 and probably will hold the record for a while.

        Steve "Lindros looked good in cuffs" Lawrence

s4lawren@student.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: pavalin@bnr.ca (Paul Valin)
Subject: Re: Gilbert Dionne?
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:37:51 GMT

gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson) wrote:
> I missed the first few minutes of the Leafs-Habs game last night ... can
> someone fill me in on the status of Gilbert Dionne?  Did they say at the
> beginning where he was? I haven't heard he was sent down again, so I assume he
> was a scratch, but I'd like to hear for sure what's going on with him.  
> Any timeframe mentioned for the return of Denis Savard?  Any info would be
> appreciated.

I read in the Gazette this morning that he was out with the flu.  He 
missed the previous game but made a miraculous recovery and pronounced
himself fit to play the Leafs.  Demers said, "you're not playing".
I think he was back last night in the game against Hartford.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: Hawks News 1-4
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:03:08 GMT

scholvin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Scholvin) wrote:
>First up was the much-awaited rematch against the Lightning on New
>Year's Eve. The miserable yuppie bar I was stuck in didn't
>(wouldn't) put the game on TV, even with the sound off, so I don't
>have much to write about except based on what I've gleaned from the
>papers. The Hawks did what one would expect them to do: dominate an
>expansion team. Belfour and the unscratched Michel Goulet led the
>way to a 5-0 whitewash at the Stadium. It was Goulet's first game
>after sitting out nine games with a groin pull, and he celebrated
>by scoring the game's first goal and assisting on the second.
>Belfour apparently didn't need to make too many spectacular saves
>as the defense played well. Milan Tichy and Brad Lauer were called
>up to bolster the defense in the place of Kravchuk and Smith, and
>both performed admirably, each picking up an assist. Scoring
>summary: Goulet (Roenick, Tichy) 7:36 2nd; Roenick (Goulet, Larmer)
>12:49 2nd; Chelios (Sutter, Matteau) 11:16 3rd; Sutter (Matteau,
>Lauer) 16:30 3rd (pp); GRIMSON! (Roenick, Goulet) 18:33 3rd (pp).

>It was Stu's 3rd career goal, Belfour's fifth shutout of the
>season, the team's seventh, and Marchment whiffed on a penalty shot
>early in the third. 'Nuff said. 

I wouldn't use the score to dictate what happened in the game. It was very
close until the end. While TB only manage 4 shots in each of the first two
periods, more than half of the shots were quality chances. Belfour kept TB
from being ahead early and in the game late. Even though it was 2-0 after 2,
the game was still close. TB mounted much more offense in the 3rd. There was
also a lot more dirty play. I haven't seen TB fight so much, mainly because
McRae was back. He had reason to be upset. It was on 10/11 that he broke his
ankle in Chicago and 12/31 was his first game back. While skating behind the
Chicago goal, one of the Chicago players did a leg sweep on his ankle. Basil
went down pretty easy because he was being overly protective. I didn't think
it could have been intentional, but the way he carried on, perhaps words were
said.

Anyway, in the third there was lots of pushing in shoving. After the 3rd goal
it really got out of hand. One TB player speared a player and got a major.
That is why the last two goals were power-plays. I can't remember well enough,
but the first might have been 5v3. Toss in the fact that TB was pressing.

So the game was closer than a whitewash, but the better team won. It was
definitely closer than the only meeting in Tampa.

I don't want to bash Chelios by citing any examples, but he sure goes out of
his way to be dirty. Too bad because he is one of the NHL's top defensemen.

Tom
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Kings' slump
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 11:33:22 GMT

While watching the LA/Win game, the announcers mentioned that the Kings haven't
won since 12/12. I looked at their schedule and sure enough it was the loss to
TB that started the slide. I don't think it was losing to TB as much as the
fact that they lost on a penalty shot with about a minute left (I think). Can
anyone who follows the Kings closely make any comments on this observations?

Bill Clement noted that he hasn't found much wrong with the defense during
this stretch. I can't believe that since they lost about 10-2 and 7-2 (to SJ
no less) and in their second loss to TB they were down 4-0 in the first minute
of the 2nd. Gretzky has done his part - 2 assists vs TB, 2 goals vs. Win.

Aside from this, it was great to see a game in Winnipeg. I think it's been a
few years since I've seen one there. Can we manage games in Vancouver and
Calgary on ESPN all in the same season? If there is any network deal, will
there be any Canadian (not Canadiens) home games? or is that out of bounds?
Not that I have to see a game in Canada, but I got awful sick of the SC-5.

Tom
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: 8800740@info.umoncton.ca (MARCO RUEST)
Subject: Re: Mon/Har empty netter
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:06:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.082959.25711@cs.ucf.edu> wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
>From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
>Subject: Mon/Har empty netter
>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:29:59 GMT

>Before my question...

>For those who didn't see it, Hartford pulled the goalie on a delayed penalty
>and shot the puck from behind the Montreal goal right down the center of
>the ice to score in their own goal. If I heard on the news right, it made
>the score 6-1 and the final was 7-5. So it was the game winner (using the
>dumb def. of a game winner). Maybe someone who saw it can say more.

>So, my question: Gosselin was at the bench and skated back toward the goal
>nowhere near saving the puck. What if he had saved it? Obviously it could be a
>too-many-men-on-the-ice penalty. But is it just a 2-minute minor? It's a nice
>trade: no goal and 4v4 since both teams get a penalty. Does this fall under
>the penalty shot rule?

>Tom

What probably happened is that Gosselin was near the bench when the puck
crossed the Montreal blue line.  That why he was trying to get back!

I maybe wrong since I didn't see how many players was on the ice for 
Hartford.
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