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From: jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: The IIvi/vx CAN be saved!!. apple PLEASE do it!!!!
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:46:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: jfwhome.BxBM5u.4G
Organization: Misanthropes-R-Us

In <cfarmer-061192135059@mac20-152.ncsa.uiuc.edu> cfarmer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Chuck Farmer) writes:
>In article <1de438INNrrr@eagle.natinst.com>, davoli@natinst.com (Russell
>Davoli) wrote:
>> In article <steveh.721006805@tasman> steveh@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Steve Howell) writes:
>> >THIS is great!!... no more PC case.. no more metal scraps!.. 
>> What is it with you!  Who really cares what the inside of the case is made
>> of?
>The metal case is better for you too. Aside from less environmental waste
>products, the metal case does a better job of EMF shielding, saving both
>your money and your health (Flame on: I am not sure that is a major concern
>here Flame off)

I don't know if there's any rational proof for saving money or health,
but the better EMF shielding *does* prevent your machine from screwing
actual users of the radio spectrum (like hams, police, fire, etc.), and
also keeps strong radio signals from getting IN to the circuitry and 
upsetting it every now and then ("ElectroMagnetic Compatability" is all
the rage these days among competant electronic designers (which lets out
99.44% of PC manufacturers :-))).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rkay@ausom.oz.au (Richard Kay)
Subject: PowerBooks: How Tough Are They?
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:30:28 GMT
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

I've only had my PowerBook 160 for a couple of weeks and already it has
acquired a few scratches and bumps -- I suppose it is inevitable with a
computer you take everywhere. :-)

Since the PowerBooks have been around for just on a year there must be
a few stories about PowerBook accidents around. For instance, I saw a
cracked PowerBook 170 screen yesterday at my local dealers -- the owner
accidently sat on his computer! :-( Cost of replacement screen --
A$2200. Sheesh!

So how tough are PowerBook computers? Anyone got any horror stories
that they would like to share with the rest of us?

Shivering in anticipation....

-- 
Richard Kay
E-mail: rkay%ausom.oz@sol.cc.deakin.oz.au


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: blass@wam.umd.edu (Noam A. Blass)
Subject: Mac II Question
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:56:59 GMT

If the motherboard in a Mac II was dead for one reason or another, but the
power supply works fine:

Should the other accessories, such as internal hard drive, fan, floppy drive,
LEDs, etc, turn on when the power supply is turned on? Would the fact that
the motherboard is dead have any effect on that? 

Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: hauer@roby.ecn.purdue.edu (Corey Hauer)
Subject: Re: IIcx upgrade advice needed
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date:  7 Nov 92 17:43:20 GMT

palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane) writes:

>In <werner-061192142144@128.32.157.31> werner@soe.berkeley.edu (John Werner) writes:

>>I'm finally thinking of upgrading my ancient IIcx at home, and I need some
>>advice on how to do it.  I'm a developer, so compatibility is important; I
>>tend to use the latest (or even prerelease) system software and development
>>tools.  I can think of three possible ways to upgrade it:

>>1) Quadra 700 upgrade from Apple
>>   Pros: Fast.  68040.  Compatible.  Nice fast onboard video.
>>   Cons: EXPENSIVE!  At UC's prices, it's about $2900.  Developer price is
>>         about $2500.

>This is only a hunch, but I suspect that when the IIci is eliminated and
>Apple starts putting out cheaper '040 machines, this upgrade might take a
>drop in price.

This would be a welcome suprise.  Apple has a history of lowering machine
prices while ignoring upgrade prices.

-Corey
--
If Bill Clinton is the answer, it must have been a damn stupid question.
From: davoli@natinst.com (Russell Davoli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Newton
Keywords: newton pda
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:28:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: eagle.1du471INN3ac
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: eagle.natinst.com

In article <jamess.721547145@spot.Colorado.EDU> jamess@spot.Colorado.EDU (JAMES STANLEY RONALD) writes:
>Is Apple still expecting to get its Newton out by this January?
> There doesn't seem do be much talk about it since the MacUser article.

In a related note, has anyone heard anything more than hype about Dylan?
Seems like this has been kept really quiet, except to say it's the cool new
thing in programming languages.

Just curious,
 Russell Davoli
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: engel@fidalgo.stanford.edu (Stephen Engel)
Subject: Flat (LCD) screen for Mac II needed.
Organization: Psychology Department, Stanford U.
Distribution: comp
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:07:08


Hi,

Does anyone know where I can purchase an LCD display to use as a
monitor for a macII?  I need to use it near an MRI machine, and the
magnetic field screws up normal displays.

Please mail replies to me at engel.psych.stanford.edu, and I'll post
a summary if there's interest.

Thanks,

Steve Engel
From: lemke@radius.com (Steve Lemke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: RasterOps Paintboard LI
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:54:10 GMT

mccarty@vmser.enet.dec.com writes:


>I am thinking of getting a RasterOps Paintboard LI video board for my IIci.
>I'm looking for opinions on this board - send me any feedback including 
>comparisons to other boards in the same price range or less ~800.

If you're looking at the RasterOps Paintboard LI, be sure to also check out
the Radius PrecisionColor 24Xk.  The PC-24Xk supports 1, 4, 8, 16, and 24
bit modes, at 640x480 (VGA), 640x480 (Apple 13"), 800x600 (72 Hz SVGA),
832x624 (Apple 16"), 1024x768 (60 Hz) and 1024x768 (75 Hz).  It also has
on-board QuickDraw acceleration, and if you have a multiple frequency
display, you can switch resolutions on-the-fly without restarting.  Also,
from what I've seen, at least in the mail order ads, the PC-24Xk generally
sells for a little less than the PBLI, although I believe they both retail
for $995.  :-)

>			Thanks, Bret

You're quite welcome!!

--Steve

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From: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: LC III release date?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 20:55:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an780@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Travis Grundke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mike@rice.edu (Michael L. Quillin) says:

>Does anyone know the exact release date for the LC III?  Also, is
>anyone willing to speculate about prices at this point?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>
>
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>
I'll speculate, but chances are that I'll be off- expect the "LCIII" (which
will obviously be garnered with a different name than "LCIII") to be priced
in two different scenarios: 

1) Following current lineups- the "LCIII" could be priced right as it is
   now, or maybe $1399 for a 4/80 and $1599 for a 4/160 <speculation>

2) Based on what's rumoured for the January lineup, we may see that price
   higher, and new "Low End LC" filling the $1399 void.

3) Based also on what's rumoured for January, the price may be lower- 
   perhaps $1099-$1199 in a 4/80 and possibly $1399 for a 4/160?
   <speculation>

I have no real basis for this besides basing it on past Apple pricing and
marketing, but Apple's marketing has been known to swing. Did you know
there was another model slated for release in October along with the IIvx
and IIvi, but marketing scrapped it at the last minute. (so the rumour of
why it was killed goes). 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rdd@cactus.org (Robert Dorsett)
Subject: Whoaa, hold back on that soldering iron...
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:31:11 GMT

An acquaintance recently managed to fry the ADB ports on her IIcx.  She took 
the machine into an official Apple service center.  The repairman ran the 
usual diagnostics: yep, board dead.  Swap-out.  $480 for a new board.  No
surprises there, no real gripes: I'm used to it.

However, when I suggested that I might want to do a component-level fix, the
service rep was friendly, but added the caveat that Apple would not accept
the trade-in, and the price would go up "a bit," if future work had to be
done.  My reaction was, "okay, a couple hundred dollars, right?" thinking of
policy around the time the 512->Plus conversion was going on (i.e.: get to
keep the 512 motherboard for another couple hundred bucks).  NO.  The
damage:
	$2800.
No typos, no extra zeroes, there.  Two thousand, eight hundred dollars.  More
than a IIsi, Performa 600, or IIci box! 


Can anyone suggest ONE good reason for this disparity, considering that it
cost Apple about ten bucks to make one of these things, that they make a 
tremendous profit even at $480, and that they just junk exchanged boards?  It 
would seem to penalize those users who are MOST loyal to the product line, who 
might ultimately NEED to buy a replacement board (for whatever reason)...


Incidentally, the repairman noted that Apple had refused to honor swap-
ins of "obvious" power supply repairs, too...  I didn't ask him how
much a toaster analog board would go for: probably $1500. :-(




---
Robert Dorsett, yet another programmer wondering why he continues to support 
   this absurd company's product line...
rdd@cactus.org
...cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!rdd
From: 2hutlobe@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: NUBUS documentation?
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:17:53 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I am looking for some documentation on the NUBUS I/O bus architecture.
Does anybody there know where I can obtain some hardware manual on 
NUBUS? 

Thank you.

Rubens 

--
e-mail:		rgomes@coulomb.ece.ukans.edu
The University of Kansas
Department of Electrical and Computer Engineering

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: baron@insane.sanders.lockheed.com (Robert P. Baron)
Subject: 25 MHz Mac IIsi - Another Success
Keywords: 25MHz, MACIIsi
Organization: Information Systems Division, Lockheed Sanders
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 13:45:22 GMT

I finally got my crystal oscillator from Fry's and replaced the 40 MHz one 
with the 50 MHz one last night. My si is working fine and much faster than 
before. I really noticed improvement when playing Quicktime movies, they 
play back a lot smoother than before. I was concerned about doing this 
upgrade since I bought my si when they first came out (2/40 configuration), 
but the upgrade went well. I did put a heat sink on the 68030, not because I 
saw any problems but because its cheap enough and good design practice 
as running the processor at a faster clock rate will expend more heat. 

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:21511 comp.sys.mac.games:11225 comp.sys.mac.wanted:10549
From: 128a-3fq@e260-2a.berkeley.edu (Bob C. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.games,comp.sys.mac.wanted
Subject: For Sale: Advanced Gravis MouseStick
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:30:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: e260-2a.berkeley.edu
Originator: 128a-3fq@e260-2a.berkeley.edu


	Note: This is the original MouseStick, not the II (w/ two buttons
	      on the top).

	I didn't find too much use for it, so I'm getting rid of it.
	
	The Plus:
	    Recently I found that my MouseStick wasn't working, so I sent
	    it back (under warranty) and got a new one in return.  So,
	    you are actually getting a almost-brand-new MouseStick.


	Ask for $25 plus shipping if necessary.

	
	Reply to this account,

		or

	Call Bob at (510) 233-6583, leave a mesg if I'm not home.



	G'day,

	...B.o.b...
From: Paul.Huang@f204.n2603.z1.ieee.org (Paul Huang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Network Problems
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:15:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/204 - Not Even Odd, Forest Hills NY

Here's a strange one that I hope somebody can help me with...

I'm running 7.0 (tune-up 1.1.1) on my IIsi and 7.0.1 (tune-up 1.1.1) on my 
PowerBook 100, and network them with PhoneNet connectors in order to 
transfer files back and forth between the two computers. I can transfer 
text files between the computers without any problems. I can also transfer 
Microsoft Word 4.0 files from my IIsi to my PB 100 without problems. 
However, when I try to transfer MW 4.0 files from my PB 100 back to my 
IIsi, the computer hangs up. If I convert the MW 4.0 file to a text file, 
it transfers from PB to IIsi without problems. Conversion of text files to 
MW 4.0 format leads to transfer hang-up. Is this weird, or what?

Any suggestions?

|)
| aul


 * Freddie 1.2 * The first full-featured QWK reader for the Mac.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ching@angelo.amd.com (Mike Ching)
Subject: Re: Caddyless CD-ROM Drives for the Mac?
Keywords: CD, caddy, CD300i, Photo CD
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:29:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.163109.23620@nwnexus.WA.COM> kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky) writes:
>
>How can the caddy keep the disc from moving if the disc isn't even
>touching the caddy?  The motor and spindle are the only thing attached
>to the disc while it's moving.
>
>
>The caddys *are* used to protect the disc, and they work great if you
>have a caddy for each disc and don't ever take them out.  Having a caddy
>for each disc is even conceivable, if you never use audio CDs in your
>CD-ROM drive.  Unfortunately, lots of people (including myself) *do*
>want to use audio CDs, and it's a pain to constantly swap discs in and
>out of a caddy.  They should probably have just made the caddy a
>standard part of the CD medium, like Sony's doing with the new 3"
>recordable CD medium.
>
>--
>Steve Kanefsky


Or ship the CD in a caddy instead of the jewel case.

Mike Ching
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: thorn@leland.Stanford.EDU (Shannon Lee Thornburg)
Subject: Re: Theory on IIsi upgrade failure
Keywords: IIsi, 25mhz, upgrade
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 06:51:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.060708.5264@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> wrast@nyx.cs.du.edu
 (Winston MacKenzie Rast) writes:
>...I have an opinion on why some IIsi's
>might be failing...
>...to me it would seem that if your IIsi did NOT have 80ns or faster simms
>installed in it, the upgrade would not work. 


Nice try, but it was the first thing I thought of also.  I tried two sets of
SIMMs in my IIsi after the upgrade:  the original 512kB SIMMs that are clearly
labeled '80ns' on the back, and a set of 4MB SIMMs which I guess from the
numbers on the chips are also 80ns.

The upgrade failed to work with either set of SIMMs.  In fact, with the
original Apple 80ns SIMMs the problems were much worse.

-- Shannon Thornburg
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Street price data points, PB160
Keywords: PowerBook, data path, resolution
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:10:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov10.021048.2479
Reply-To: rseymour@reed.edu
Distribution: comp
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <SJE.92Nov9153522@xylos.ma30.bull.com> sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com  
(Steven J. Edwards) writes:
> There's been a lot of press about the new Powerbook models in the
> various media.  Here's some street price information for the PB160 at
> a retail outlet in southern New Hampshire:
> 
> 	Memory	Disk	Price
> 	Mbyte	Mbyte   US$
> 	------	-----	-----
> PB160	4	40	2400
> PB160	4	80	2700
> PB160	4	120	3000
> 
> Prices rounded to nearest US$10.
> 
> And on a different note:
> 
> Why is it that the pixel dimensions of the PBs are 640 by 400 instead
> of the nearly universal 640 by 480 for the PC notebook market?  Also,
> is it true that all the new PBs (actually, every model except the
> 100) have 32 bit wide data memory paths?
> 
>  [The above opinions expressed are my own; not necessarily held by others.]
>       == Steven J. Edwards           Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
>       == (508) 294-3484              300 Concord Road         MS 820A ==
>       == sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com     Billerica, MA 01821          USA ==
> "That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson

	The pixel dimensions are to keep the screen at Macintosh resoulution  
(around 72dpi). If it were made 640x480, the pixels wouldn't be square in the  
area now taken up (the screen would be small or odd shaped if at 640x480 and  
square in another configuration). DOS notebooks are almost always 640x480 since  
they support VGA only. VGA isn't particular about resolution (and most DOS  
programs are designed to be readable at low and high resolution). Yes, the  
PowerBooks have 32-bit paths.

--
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Departments of Physics and Philosophy
Artificial Life Project			Reed College
Reed Solar Energy Project (SolTrain)	Portland, OR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: Caddyless CD-ROM Drives for the Mac?
Keywords: CD, caddy, CD300i, Photo CD
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:31:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.022058.3245@reed.edu> rseymour@reed.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.195547.14783@cs.ucla.edu> tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tom  
>Johnson) writes:
>> Does anyone know of any CD-ROM drives (preferably the newer, faster
>> models that support multi-session Photo CD) that don't require
>> those stupid disk caddies?  I'd like something with a sliding drawer
>> or one like the in-dash audio players - that slurps it in
>> automatically.
>> 
>> For that matter, why are they so ubiquitous in the data world and
>> so conspicuously absent from the audio world.  I can't believe that it's
>> to protect the disk - they get as much (or more) wear from being 
>> loaded into the caddies, I would think.
>> 
>> Thanks-
>>   Tom
>> -- 
>> Tom Johnson             "They say Confucious does his crossword with a pen."
>> tj@cs.ucla.edu                               -Tori Amos
>
>	It's not to protect the disk, but to ensure higher accuracy in reads.  
>If the disk moves even slightly, bits will register wrong (i.e. the beam won't  
>reflect back directly into the sensor). The reason these aren't as prevalent in  
>audio CD players is that it doesn't matter if you miss a bit on an audio  
>recording, you can't tell the difference (8 bits at 44.1MHz, which is around  
>150K/sec, all of which goes into the sound output). 
>	However, in computers, each bit is crutial, hence the caddy. I wouldn't  

How can the caddy keep the disc from moving if the disc isn't even
touching the caddy?  The motor and spindle are the only thing attached
to the disc while it's moving.


The caddys *are* used to protect the disc, and they work great if you
have a caddy for each disc and don't ever take them out.  Having a caddy
for each disc is even conceivable, if you never use audio CDs in your
CD-ROM drive.  Unfortunately, lots of people (including myself) *do*
want to use audio CDs, and it's a pain to constantly swap discs in and
out of a caddy.  They should probably have just made the caddy a
standard part of the CD medium, like Sony's doing with the new 3"
recordable CD medium.

--
Steve Kanefsky
From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac Color Display (New Apple Monitor)
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:21:29 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.2.12

Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com writes:

>Are you talking about the new "14 inch" monitor?  I was think about buying one
>but when I went into a local Apple dealer I saw that the screen was kind of
>fluttering/wave type -o- thing.  What would that be caused from?  Joe C
>********************************************************************
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>Cute quote:  Being a computer means never having to say you're sorry
>********************************************************************

I get that sort of behaviour out of all sorts of monitors depending
(it seems) on local power fluctuations (eg. washing machines running
in the same house, or around dusk in Winter when everyone comes home
and turns up the heat).

I'd check out several monitors (or the same monitor at different
times) before condemning it.

Tonio

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From: chuck@gte.com (Chuck Hoffman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Networks of Macs
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:47:45 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: GTE Laboratories

Currently, we are using Alisashare to share files between Macs on an
Ethernet.  We are probably going to remove the VMS operating system where
the Alisa software runs, and go with an all unix/ULTRIX network.

There is not a version of Alisashare for unix.  What are non-VMS sites
doing about sharing files, especially predominantly unix sites?

About 300 Macs on the net.  Most running 6.0.7/8 or 7.0.1.


Chuck Hoffman
chuck@gte.com
GTE Laboratories, Waltham, Massachusetts, USA
(617) 466-2131
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kanefsky@halcyon.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: IIvx with stereo
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:26:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.212202.29350@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jonkatz@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jonathan W. Katz) writes:
>With all the discussion if the IIvx sound output is stereo....
>
>Apple ran a 2 page add in MacWeek this week (11/9/92) that states among other
>things:
>
>...To take full advantage of its stero-out sound capabilities, plug in your own
>pair of self-powered speakers -- and get the most out of this great
>multimedia Macintosh.
>
>Sounds like it has stereo out capabilities!

Sigh.  One more time.  The IIvx has the ability to pass stereo audio 
tracks from the internal CD-ROM player to a stereo output jack.  It
cannot, however *synthesize* stereo sounds like all other Mac II's  
(except the IIvi), Quadras, and the SE/30 can.
  
--
Steve Kanefsky
From: Dave Clark <dclark@ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Need help finding 16MB SIMMS
Date: 7 Nov 1992 00:07:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego - IGPP
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: daveman.ucsd.edu
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X-XXDate: Fri, 6 Nov 92 00:13:49 GMT

Did you try the Chip Merchant in San Diego?  619-268-4774.

Dave Clark
IGPP Network Operations
University of California San Diego
La Jolla, CA 92093-0225
(619) 534 1753
internet: dclark@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware