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From: hamster@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: TORI AMOS trade
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Date: 21 Jan 93 16:26:05 AEDT
Organization: Disorganized...

In article <1ji51o$as0@agate.berkeley.edu> sherw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Gregory Sherwin) writes:

> to the roof of her mouth.  Are a lot of Tori Amos fans into Toni Childs
> as well - or are they really that much different and I just don't
> distinguish them very well?

This Tori Amos fan is most certainly NOT into Toni Childs...

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From: tim@vestek.com (Tim McGinnis)
Subject: Re: MTV BALL 10,000 Maniacs
Organization: Vestek Systems
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 19:54:25 GMT

In article <18090@umd5.umd.edu> dmcohen@oberon.umd.edu (Dan Cohen) writes:
>In article <C18M4J.JJ9@uceng.uc.edu> sweide@uceng.uc.edu (Steven Weide) writes:
>>
>>This was one of their best live performances I've ever seen, but does 
>>anyone know what the first song they did with Michael Stipe was?  It sort
>>of sounded familiar, but I know it's not on the cd's.  Could it be an 
>>REM song?
>>
>>Steve
>
>I believe this song is called "To Sir With Love" made for the movie by the
>same name.  I'm not positive about this, since I've only heard the original
>once at the end of the movie.
>
>-Dan
>


thats right. sidney poitier starred as a school teacher in the UK.
the singers name was something like "lu lu".


tim
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Galore by the Primitives
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:38:42 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Anthony Horan (hamster@xymox.apana.org.au) wrote:
> In article <1993Jan20.015315.2867@gallant.apple.com> jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com (Jens Alfke) writes:
> 
> > >I was wondering if any of you knew what the deal was with
> > >the newest Primitives album _Galore_.  I think it was
> > >released sometime early last year.  Since then, I've only
> >
> > Anyone care to review it? I'd never even heard of it. But based on "Pure"
> > and the single or two after that, I'd be afraid to pay good money for it.
> > Give me the glory days of "Through the Flowers" ... that brief moment in
> > time when the Primitives and My Bloody Valentine were on the same label
> > and sounded very similar.
> 
> Hey, let the band develop, OK? There's nothing worse than people saying, "I
> used to like <INSERT BAND NAME> when they were on Sacred Mud Records, but
> now they've sold out and signed with a major they're just SO passe and
> commercial." Bollocks.
> 
> Having said that, "Galore" sees the Primitives moving more toward a
> 60s-influenced lush pop sound, with production by Ian Broudie. The best
> track on the album was also a single; it's called "You Are The Way" and
> it's one of the best songs The Primitives have ever recorded. After this
> brilliant album-opener, the rest of the album has a lot to live up to and
> never quite reaches the same peak.
> 

Hmmm. I used to be a big Primitives fan -- saw them live loads of times from
about 87-90 and used to think that Blonde music was just about the perfect
antidote to all the world's ills -- Flatmates, Buds, Prims etc. etc... 

I don't think Galore is a very good album though. The production makes them
sound more like an uninspired version of Swing Out Sister plus guitars in many 
places, and the songs just seem to lack the catchiness of anything on
Lovely or Pure. That said, it's not a bad piece of pop, but nowhere
near as good as their early stuff. Let's face it, what can match up to
the likes of ``Stop Killing Me'', ``Through The Flowers'' and ``Don't
want anything to change''?

All IMHO, anyway.

It's noticeable that the Prims are playing rather less important venues
these days too... oh well... 

pete
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: acskjc@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: Kennedy
Reply-To: acskjc@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:45:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.024555.7563@wam.umd.edu>, orpheus@next04cville.wam.umd.edu (Grant Jeffrey Barrus) writes:
>Everybody (almost) hate's Kennedy. That's pretty much a given.
>Seeing her lose her job would more than make my day.
>
>Anybody know what happened to Karen Bryant? Granted, she wasn't the best  
>VJ in the world, but she was far better than "Commander" Kennedy. Plus she  
>knew about the music she was playing. Buzz-cut was the original  
>"Alternative Nation" and was twice as cool.
>
>	-Grant Jeffrey Barrus
>
>R.I.P. Dave Kendell
>       
KAREN BRYANT?!  I HATED her!  She used to be a DJ on WBRU in Providence, RI
("The Cutting Edge Of Rock" - cough, cough), and she constantly drove me nuts
(yes, I DID turn off the radio).  One day she disappeared from the airwaves,
only to resurface on MTV!  A sad day it was...

Anyone else notice how easily Rollins could've snapped Kennedy in two last
night?  Anyone know why he didn't?

Kieran Chapman
acskjc@umassd.edu
From: robg@fossil.Berkeley.EDU (Robert Guralnick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: re: Tori does Nirvana
Date: 25 Jan 1993 02:10:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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I think you can find it on her new albulm.  I would give you the name of that
albulm, but I have conveniently forgotten... As for justice... hmm...
If you _REALLY_ like the song, you will probably really dislike Tori's
version... she makes it into a weepy, Elton John type dealy. If you marginally
like the song, then you will probably think it brilliant... If I remember
rightly (unlikely), she leaves out verses in the original.  

Personally I love her version because it is captures some of the
same sentiment as the original while simultaneously being a completely
different style... also, her version introduces another level of irony
to the already ironic little single. Her other covers a good too, one
of Led Zepplin and one of the Stones (or maybe that was Shonen Knife)?
Whatever...
 




-- 
Robert P. Guralnick			     |"James, all I want are some
Museum of Paleontology Systems Administrator |horses, a nice stream with some
Berkeley, CA			             |fishies and a cold place to die"
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From: bg@stein.u.washington.edu (Bill Whitson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Seaweed
Date: 26 Jan 1993 04:40:18 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

Well, I've been wading through my backlog of news articles and I saw several
postings about Seaweed and a couple requests for info. on them, so here goes.

Seaweed has been around for about 4 years now.  They hail from Tacoma, WA
(USA) which to the rest of the world means Seattle (most Seattle bands aren't
actually from Seattle -- Nirvana for example came from about 100 miles away).

They are very definitely punk, none of the grunge that the world has come to
associate with Sub Pop Central.  Their first release was the Carosel 7" I
believe on Tupelo, followed by another single on the same label.  Next out
was a Tupelo compilation of their early tunes (which IMO is their best album
to date).  Next came their album Despised on Sub Pop which has some of their
most popular songs at local shows.  After Despised they re-released their
song Deertrap on a single for K Records and the Pumpkins single on Sub Pop.
Their newest album is Weak both in title and in content (IMO).  The songs
are kinda' redundant musically although a few (Bill, in particualr) do stand
out.  At least the band seems to be aware of this and regularly makes fun of
the album at shows.  Their most recent release is the Measure 7" on Sub Pop
which I consider to be the best they've put out in about a year.

Hope somebody found this useful.

Bill
bill@booster.u.washington.edu
From: danieds@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: FLAT DUO JETS
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:04:15 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

I haven't seen them in over a year and haven't had a dose of
Dexterbilly in a long time.  Can anybody tell me what the Flat Duo
Jets are up to?  Any new albums on the way? They must really hate
Nashvegas because they never play up here.  HOpefully somebody out of
NOrth Carolina or Georgia knows what Dex and Crow are up to.

Thanks,
Doug
danieds@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rchao@netcom.com (Robert Chao)
Subject: Re: REM - favorite lesser-known songs
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:45:32 GMT

I forgot to mention my all-time favorite REM b-side:
"Last Date," a country instrumental that graced the back of
End of the World (7-inch).

Does anyone know aof any albums with music tghat sounds just like this?

-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
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From: samjain@accord.ece.cmu.edu (Samir Jain)
Subject: Lemonhead lyrics
Originator: samjain@accord.ece.cmu.edu
Keywords: lyrics
Reply-To: samjain@accord.ece.cmu.edu (Samir Jain)
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:20:10 GMT


Hey folks,

Can anyone decifer all of the lyrics to the song "Confetti" for me off of the album "It's a Shame About Ray"?  That's probably my favorite track, but I can't get all the lyrics.

Thanks (in advance)

Sam
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hedley@welclu.enet.dec.com (Lock up your Wildebeest, it's the RCC!!)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins Box Set
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:58:51 GMT


In article <1993Jan27.210809.4370@gallant.apple.com>, Jens Alfke <jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com> writes...
>....plus an extra disc with four miscellaneous tracks (Crushed / Dials /
>The High Monkey-Monk / and an instrumental version of some other song
>whose name escapes me).

it's the curiously titled "Oomingmak" from Victoria Land.

>NOTE: The only stuff missing is the Peel Sessions stuff that was tacked
>onto the original cassette and CD releases of Garlands. This consists of
>four songs, two of them otherwise unreleased, two featuring Gordon Sharp
>of Cindytalk on backing vocals. I don't know if these have been released
>as a standalone on the Strange Fruit label that's releasing all the other
>Peel Sessions?
> 
>--Jens Alfke
>  Once and future Cocteau Twins fanatic

I haven't heard anything about this being released by Strange Fruit.
The CD version of Garlands contains an additional 2 tracks that I
haven't heard of before (I think they're "Hear no Evil" and "Perhaps
some other Aeon"?), but they aren't the best tracks I've ever heard...!

Chris
From: caroliner@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: jackals, false grails...
Date: 23 Jan 93 07:33:37 GMT
Reply-To: caroliner@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA


    from the frequent desk of caroliner rainbow:

so, ya want pavement and sebadoh t-shirts? well, aside from getting them at
their shows of course (pavement cut me a deal on one of their shirts and 
shaved 5 bucks off the price...it's a really wierd shirt too, burgundy, with
'the slow century' written on the front and some strange uses for the letter
'r' on the back), a friend of mine got a neat-o bootleg pavement shirt in 
texas...and sebadoh shirts? well i've seen plenty, originals and home made,
the most recent being the seBADoh hatchet/heart shirts...i'm sure you can
write to pavement and lou barlow to get shirts, etc., and believe me, they
will reply...

     - caroliner trout mask replica.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: snordgr@eng.clemson.edu (scott nordgren)
Subject: afghan whigs
Reply-To: snordgr@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:17:25 GMT


   I was listening to my college radio station (wsbf-clemson) yesterday and heard a really cool whigs song.  It was a dance mix of "rebirth of cool" (the chorus is "don't forget the alcohol" i think that's the name) Anyway, I called the station and the dj said it was from a promo cd and wasn't available in stores.  
   I, being a faithful reader of this alt.music.alternative, figured somebody out there would have information on obtaining promo cd's.  Please prove me correct.  Any info on promo cd's?
  I figure I probabably have to bribe my local record store owner or pay out the ass, but if there is an easier way I would like to know it.  Thanks.
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Subject: what is 'straight edge'?
From: S942912@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 22:40:55 CST
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS
NNTP-Posting-Host: umslvma.umsl.edu

...can anyone please explain to me what 'straight edge' is?
..i'll appreciate that....
 
   -a.d.i.k-
   s942912@umslvma.umsl.edu
From: bssbc3gsd@dct.ac.uk (Grant Doig)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Indie dance thing is happening in Lond
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:10:39 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <30643@castle.ed.ac.uk>, keithw@castle.ed.ac.uk (Keith Watson) writes:
> You say "if there were no Byrds there would be no Ride, what about the
> Roses huh (who incidentally had never heard of the Byrds before 1990).
> 
> Keef

I must admit, I had completely forgotten about them!!!!

Sorry.
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From: jens_alfke@gateway.qm.apple.com (Jens Alfke)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: what is 'straight edge'?
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:42:28 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer
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In article <16B5C13EF7.S942912@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU> ,
S942912@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU writes:
>...can anyone please explain to me what 'straight edge' is?
>..i'll appreciate that....

Clean-living punk rock: no drugs, no drinking, no smoking. Minor Threat
(and their heirs Fugazi) were I think the major band of this scene.

--Jens Alfke
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mtl2001@andy.bgsu.edu (In search of e-mail)
Subject: Mailing Lists, anyone?
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: BGSU
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:39:00 GMT

In a never-ending quest to receive as much e-mail as humanly possible, I
now turn to you, the general public.  So please to be supplying me with any
alt-music related mailing lists net addresses thatyour aware of.  Oh, what
the hell.  Give me any good mailing lists that you've got.

Much obliged,

MAtt
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:46:02 -0500 
From: David Bruce Dye <dd2y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Ned's Atomic Dustbin dates?

hey,
does anyone have a list of tour dates for Ned's?
specifically, are coming near Pittsburgh?
i need to know.

david.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: songs about trains...
From: (becky)
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:59:56 -0600
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Distribution: world


> 
> >    There's also "Runaway Train"--Soul Asylum

 Make that "Runaway Train" by Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers, REMAKE by
Soul Asylum, give credit where credit is due, and Tom deserves the credit
for that one.
 peace.

"JESUS MADE ME SO, JESUS SAVE ME FROM, PITY, SYMPATHY, AND PEOPLE
DISCUSSING ME."
From: bill@cac.washington.edu (Bill Whitson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: REPOST: Bill's obnoxious wish-list
Date: 28 Jan 1993 19:53:55 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: booster.u.washington.edu

Hi.

About a month ago I posted to the net about some Sub-Pop vinyl that I was
looking for.  I was so successful that I've decided to do it again.  Most
of what I'm asking for this time is rare enough that I don't have much hope
of getting it but we'll see what turns up.  I will pay or trade for anything
you can find, and I've been fairly successful at finding what people are
looking for.  In some cases here, I know material exists by certain bands
but I don't know what there is so I am just asking for, in general - 
everything :*>.

Here's the list (in no specific order):

Blood Circus:	2-Way Street 7"		on Sub Pop Records

L7:		7" Domestic Version	on Sub Pop Records

Skin Yard:	I have all the LP's and Sup Pop 7", Stranger 7", and
		1000 Smiling Knuckles 10".  I am looking for any other
		singles.

Tad:		God's Balls LP		on Sub Pop Records
		Daisy 7"		on Sub Pop Records
		Tad/Pussy Galore 7"	on Sub Pop Records

Tar:		7"s other than "Teetering/In Crowd"

Fall-Outs:	I have the Fall-Outs LP, Don't Want the Sun 7", and Jealous
		Kind 7".  I know there are earlier singles...

The Fluid:	Punch n' Judy LP	on Glitterhouse Records

Zipgun:		I have Together Dumb 7" and Put me Away 7".  I know there
		are others and they're probably on eMpTy Records.

Mudhoney:	Touch Me I'm Sick 7" (only a colored version)	on Sub Pop
		You Got It 7"	on Sub Pop Records

Seaweed:	Inside 7"	Leopard Gecko
		Just a Smirk 7"		Leopard Gecko

H-Hour:		anything

64 Spiders:	anything

My Eye:		7" on C/Z Records

Rancid Vat:	I have Justice LP, Cluster Bombs EP 7", It's My Fate 7", and
		Sympathy For The Record Industry 7".  I am looking for the
		Burger Belsen LP and anything else that might be out there.

Marble Orchard:	I have Something Happens 7" and I am looking for anything else.

Distorted Pony:	Any 7" you might happen upon.  I would _really_ like to have
		more DP stuff...

Green River:	Green River 7"		on Homestead Maybe?

Helmet:		Born Annoying/Rumble 7"		Label unknown
		Unsung/Your Head 7"		Label unknown
		In the Meantime/No Nicky No 7"	Label Unknown

Compilations:	Sub Pop 100 on CD
		Deep Six Compilation	on C/Z (I'm looking for 2 copies)
		Puget Power Act 1 7"	on Regal Select
		Fluid/Nirvana split 7"	on Sub Pop Records
		
		also any comps. that have the above bands in them I would be
		interested to hear about.

Thanks to anyone who spent the time to read this.

Bill Whitson
bg@carson.u.washington.edu
bg@stein.u.washington.edu

(BTW -- DON'T BUY ANY OF THESE WITHOUT CONSULTING ME FIRST!!!)
















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From: Cannam@sc.ZIB-Berlin.de (Chris Cannam)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: songs with rain..
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:37:30
Organization: Konrad Zuse Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
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In-reply-to: mdm@wdl1.wdl.loral.com's message of 20 Jan 93 22:16:13 GMT


In article <1993Jan20.221613.25645@wdl.loral.com> mdm@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Mike D Marchionna) writes:

   Oh boy a chance to make use of my CD database.  Let's see what we get:

   [ list of songs whose titles contain the word `rain' deleted ]


Interesting.  Originally this subject came up as a question about
songs whose titles were just `Rain' -- and none of the ones listed
meet that one.  Also interesting that the vast majority of the songs
people have already mentioned in this thread aren't in that list.

							Chris


--
           on sighting mathematicians it should unhook the algebra from their
             minds and replace it with poetry;  on sighting poets it should
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From: lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ramona)
Subject: Re: NAYKED RAYGUN
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:22:03 GMT

They haven't broken up, contrary to a lot of rumors floating 
around the Chicago area.  Within the past 6 months, though,
Eric Spicer the drummer left to get married, and Bill Stephens
(Haggerty's replacement) just plain didn't want to be in the 
band anymore.  Jeff Pezzati and Pierre Kezdy are continuing 
with the band.  The album slated for release this past fall 
has been pushed back 6-9 months.  I heard two songs off it 
when I saw Raygun in May, they sounded really good, in the 
vein of the Jettison album.  The guys seem to have a lot of 
personal things to attend to so touring is way on the back 
burner (Jeff Pezzati does have a baby after all).  Hopefully
things will sort themselves out soon.


What I feel makes me alive
Goes beyond what they decide
Can't fight what gives you life
That's TREASON



					    Ramona

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: orso@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (massimiliano orso)
Subject: Alan Parsons Project
Keywords: Alan Parson Project
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:23:47 GMT
Summary: Does anyone know something new about Alan Parsons Project?


Does anyone know something new about Alan Parsons Project?
I have 11 album and I'm waiting for something new!
Thanks...
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From: drj21264@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel R. Juliano )
Subject: Opal info needed
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:31:04 GMT
Keywords: opal

I have a CD by a group called Opal.  The name of the CD is Happy Nightmare
Baby.  I can't find anything else by this group, but I have heard other songs
by them before.  I would like to know what Opal has done besides Happy N Baby,
and where I could get it.  Thanx.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: RPatel@massey.ac.nz (R. Patel)
Subject: Spaceman 3 info
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 00:15:13 GMT


G'day,

I'm hoping someone can tell me what Spacemen 3 sound like ?

I've got Spiritualiseds Laser Guided Melodies which is pretty cool, very
mellow but possible over rated after all the hype I've read.

Thanx in advance.

-- 


              "Righteous Indignation, try it, you'll like it"
                           
			   rpatel@massey.ac.nz

			    Massey University
		       	     Palmerston Nth 
			      New Zealand			
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From: mlevin@teal.csn.org (Marshall Levin)
Subject: 10,000 Maniacs
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:14:44 GMT

Anybody know what happened to the 10,000 Maniacs mailing list?  The address I
have for it from the musical list of lists doesn't work anymore, and I am no
longer getting list messages.  Anyone else out there used to be on the list
and now apparently isn't?

Anyone know their tour schedule?  I heard (through no reliable source) that
they are going to be playing at Middlebury College.  Anyone know what's up?

Thanks

Marshall Levin

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