From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: rock-debate
Date: 21 Nov 1992 18:15:53 GMT
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In article <7239@news.duke.edu>, yavor@acpub.duke.edu (Yavor B. Parashkevov) writes:
>In article <00963B80.97015CE0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>>Well, I'm new at this newsgroup stuff, so I trust you'll all bear with
>>me.  Without question, Floyd and Zeppelin and Hendrix have to be considered
>>among the best; the Doors, on the other hand, are overrated (though "The End"
>>is without question one of my favorite songs).  Nobody has mentioned the
>>band who is arguably responsible for the birth of heavy metal--i.e. Black
>>Sabbath.
>
>Yesssss!!!
>
>Yea, man, finally someone mention Sabbath! What can I say, just listen
>to their first album. Sleeping Village, Behind the Wall of Sleep...
>Great tunes, rock-solid sound, the mood just crushes you. Wicked
>World...  Personally, I think Sabotage is their greatest, also Sabbath
>Bloody Sabbath, Never Say Die. Sure, it takes some time to get into
>their music, but then it just becomes part of you. You breathe
>Sabbath. 
>
>>Their old stuff was truly innovative, and they really brought a 
>>whole new mood to the rock scene.  I read a book by a sociologist from
>>DePaul who claims that the debate concerning the fathers of metal comes
>>down to Zeppelin and Sabbath, with the British preferring Sab and the
>>Americans preferring Zep.  I guess I'm one of the Americans going with
>>Sabbath; Zep is more talented, but the heavy, depressing sound that is
>>definitive of true metal is definitely the work of Sabbath.  Not much of
>>Zeppelin hits on this level, though Immigrant Song is a good metal
>>forerunner.  By the way, I agree with the person that Zep III is possibly
>>the best Zep album ever, though many people don't care much for this one.
>>You've got to take a good look at Physical Graffiti too, though.  As for
>>Sabbath, I really like Sabbath Bloody Sabbath, though really everything
>>with Ozzy is great, except perhaps for Never say Die, which one can 
>>acquire a taste for if they try hard enough.  Are there any Sabbath lovers
>>out there?  Let me know.  I'm also surprised that nobody has mentioned
>>Deep Purple, a band who really hit the line between blues/metal/ and even
>>some pseudo-classical stuff. 
>
>Purple is great, too. I especially enjoy their live albums. Some
>serious jamming there! The blues foundation really shows up. I don't
>like their new stuff, though. Gillan is just not up to singing
>anymore... :-(	And they seem to have run out of fresh ideas...
>
>I wonder why so little attention is paid to one of their descendants -
>Rainbow. I really love this band, they offer some very  vivacious
>hard-rock. True, they have lots of cliche's, but Rising and Long
>Live Rock'n'Roll with RJ Dio are very powerful.   
>
>
>>I'm looking forward to seeing some Sabbath and Lizzy lovers crawl out
>>of the woodwork.
>>Until later, Eric.
>
>
>Well, you got one.
>
>By the way, what happened with ex-Sabbath vocal Tony Martin? I heard
>he was supposed to come up with a solo album, but nothing's came out
>so far (at least I'm not aware of anything).
>
>See ya,
>
>Yavor
>
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>yavor@acpub.duke.edu
Well, I'm glad someone out there likes Sabbath as much as I do.  After naming
Sab Blood Sab my favorite, I did think that i might like Sabotage better,
so you and I obviously think along the same lines!!  I never really followed
them after dio left though, so I can't answer your question about Martin.
As for Rainbow, I cthink side 2 of Risingqualifies as one of my top 5
favorite album sides of all times--spectacular!!
	Glad to know i inspired somebody today (: 
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