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From: mley@acorn.co.uk (Martin Ley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Brecker Bros in UK
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:27:34 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Acorn Computers Limited, Cambridge, UK

Just in case  there is anybody in the UK who doesn't
know yet: The Brecker brothers are playing at the
Royal Festival Hall on Wed Oct 28t. 

There are some other gigs lined up too:

Jack DeJohnette   RFH Thu Oct 1st
Don Pullen/Jimmy Giuffre-Paul Bley-Steve Swallow    QEH Fri Oct 15th
John Scofield and John Surman/John Taylor   RFH Mon Nov 16th

RFH = Royal Festival Hall
QEH = Queen Elizabeth Hall

Tickets:

South Bank Centre  071-928 8800
Ticketmaster       071-379 4444


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Michael Brecker.... in the UK???    Naaahhh....
From: gt0963d@prism.gatech.EDU (Deeptendu Majumder)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Seeking opinions of Patricia Barber's new CD
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:48:34 GMT
Organization: The Dream Chasers Syndicate

I forget the name of the album. I think it has the song
Summertime in it. I would appreciate some comments about
the album and the artist in general.

e-mail response preferred

many thanks
d.
-- 
------
"Like a harsh neon streaking  through the velvet darkness 
the whetted knife of Life tore its path through her Dreams"
From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: All Of You
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:39:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: fc.Bvpw22.GKq
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL6]

: You're right that many otherwise terrific jazz instrumental versions of
: standard songs are not too good for the purpose of learning the "correct"
: melody or changes.  In most such cases, you're better off looking for a
: vocal version

I think this is precisely the opposite of what was asked.  The Real Book has
the generic "correct" vocal version; the original poster wanted the "standard"
version as in "what Miles played".  Meaning Ella's version would probably match
the real book pretty close, but not help understand what Miles was doing.

Are you sure it's not in any of the Aerbersold books?  That's pretty
surprising.  Anyhow, my recollection is that the Real Book is not as far off as
it initially seems, once you add a few pedal points - like Bb (or is it Eb?)
over the first 6 bars or so - any maybe tritone substitutions.  You're right,
though - it sure doesn't sound the same at first.  I think I may have a Bill
Evans version that sounds kind of similar to Miles, too, and that was what I
used when analyzing the tune.  I never really "finished" in the sense of
writing down a definitive set of changes, so I can't tell you what I came up
with.  I just got far to enough to convince myself the Real Book wasn't so far
off after all, and that I could make some of the necessary subs on the fly.

If you want Miles' interpretation of the head transcibed, that's another
matter.  I doubt Miles himself played it the same way twice.

By the way, has anyone else noticed how eerily possessive the lyrics are?
Stuff about wanting to "take complete control of you", and own the mind and
soul...

--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
From: hideo@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (KANNO Hideo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: advise to buy GRP
Keywords: Brecker Brothers, Michael Brecker
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:29:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Centre, University of Tokyo

In article <1afi49INNerh@early-bird.think.com> ffoogg@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu (paco ojeda) writes:
>In article <Anthony_Maillard-011092100218@appletalk-67.mdd.comm.mot.com>
>Anthony Maillard, Anthony_Maillard@Mdd.comm.mot.com writes:
>>*     The  10th Anniversary All Star Big Band
>>*     Chick Corea Acoustic Band - GRD-9582
>>*     Lee Ritour - Colour Rit
>>*     Lee Ritnour  - Festival
>>*     The GRP Christmas Collection - Vol. 1
>>*		   Dave Grusin - Collection
>>*     Dave Grusin - Cinemagic
>>*     Yellow Jackets - Live Wires
>
>Good list! May I also suggest Eddie Daniels "Breakthrough"? 

How about Brecker's CDs below?

Michael Brecker / Now You See It
Return of the Brecker Brothers

These are really great!!

And of course, please listen many CDs published by another labels.
--
            _      .---    KANNO HIDEO     kanno@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp 
  _________/ |__--'@/      Dept. of Biophysics & Biochemistry, Univ. of Tokyo
 (__PAN AM/__|__===-~      3-1, Hongo 7-chome, Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo 113, JAPAN 
                           (JALNET: JAL13073, NIFTY-Serve: GFC00670)
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Larry Young
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:27:22 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <9209301200.AA20091@wavetracer.com> gwl@wavetracer.com writes:
>>>>>> On Tue, 29 Sep 92 00:01:32 GMT, wave3_3!optimla.aimla.com!howard (Howard Soroka) said:
>It has been on CD for a few years but was recently cut out.  Lynn
>Rardin has been searching far and wide for a month or two with no
>success.  There is a new one-CD collection of Young material on Blue Note
>but only one track from "UNITY", his widely acknowledged masterwork,
>is included on it.  Nice job, Blue Note.

Blue Note cut out Unity?  Ok, lets change the name of rec.music.bluenote
to rec.music.bluenote.sucks.for.doing.this ;)

If you really dig Larry Young, get the Mosaic box.  If you need
convincing, note that it has the trios he did with Grant Green and Elvin
Jones.

Jeff
From: hideo@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (KANNO Hideo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Anyone transcribed "pools" by Steps?
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:55:46 GMT
Organization: Computer Centre, University of Tokyo

>In article <1992Sep24.141203.5034@fel.tno.nl> qb7g6@fel.tno.nl (Maarten Landzaat) writes:
>>Hi, I'd like to play Pools with my jazz sextet, but I have trouble
>>hearing the voicings of those chords during the theme.

>In case it is of any help, the tune is also available (with slightly
>different instrumentation) on composer Don Grolnick's album "Hearts and
>Numbers" on Hip Pocket Records -- the CD number is HD106.  

There is another recording for "POOLS"
Sorry, I don't know the CD title exactly.
It is live recording on Japanese Jazz festival "Live Under the Sky '89"

"Select Live Saxophone Workshop" (Polydor)
  Music Directed by Don Grolnick
  Michael Brecker(ts), Bill Evans(ss,ts), Ernie Watts(as,ts)
  Stanly Turrentine(ts), Don Grolnic(p), Yoshio Suzuki(b), Adam Nussbaum(ds)
  Recorded live July 29, 1989 at Yomiuri-Land EAST, Kawasaki, Japan
  
Then "POOLS" was harmonized for saxophone quartet.
"The Four Sleepers"(by Don) was also available on this session.
Unfortunately, I don't have a CD, but I have a video tape from TV program.

At last, available recordings with "POOLS" are:

  1.Steps Ahead
  2.Don Grolnick / Hearts and Numbers
  3.Select Live Saxophone Workshop (not exact title)

I've played POOLS as saxophone player^_^.
It was difficult but exciting tune.  Good luck!!

By the way, I heard the CD "Return of the Brecker Brothers" and 
its live performance in Tokyo.  I feel it's nice.  How about you?
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            _      .---    KANNO HIDEO     kanno@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp 
  _________/ |__--'@/      Dept. of Biophysics & Biochemistry, Univ. of Tokyo
 (__PAN AM/__|__===-~      3-1, Hongo 7-chome, Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo 113, JAPAN 
                           (JALNET: JAL13073, NIFTY-Serve: GFC00670)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Nichols (really ICP)
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:08:07 PDT
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu
Distribution: na

In article <SMEHTA.92Oct6161323@kwela.nynexst.com>  writes:
> 
> I'm not sure if the notes predate the ICP recordings of Nichols, but
> I do have a cassette (it is/was the only format available) that I
> bought in London of the ICP (plus Lacy) doing all Nichols tunes. 

I think (but can't be sure) that this is the same date that appears
on some radio-station-only lps from Radio Nederlander. It's great
fun.

I picked up one of the two new ICP CDs from Cadence awhile ago (vol. 2,
to be precise). I didn't like it as much as the Nichols record. The new
CD has mostly smaller groupings rather than the full band, and some of
the pieces sound rather fragmentary. There's a looser feel, and some of
that wacky Willem Breuker-esque spirit, but I prefer the more thoughtful
Nichols arrangements. Still quite fun tho.

Bill
From: smg+@cs.cmu.edu (Stephen Guattery)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: Charlie Parker - looking for the DIAL material on CD
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:59:45 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <RSHAPIRO.92Oct4130125@kariba.bbn.com> you write:
>In article <MATTI.92Oct4170451@marilyn.bion.kth.se> matti@bion.kth.se (Matti Rendahl) writes:
>
>   Anybody knows if this is available? Record company etc?
>
>The most thorough compilation of Bird's Dial recordings would be the 6
>lps on the Spotlite label. A smaller "master takes" collection is
>available on a couple of Stash cds.
>

To amplify a bit:  Here in the US, I've seen the material from the Spotlite
collection on CD as a Japanese import.  The label is Toshiba EMI; the title is
something like "Charlie Parker on Dial: Completed".  It consists of 4 CDs with
a total of 4 hours of music, and is complete but expensive.

The two Stash CDs (Stash 23 and 25, I believe) claim to be all the master
takes and many of the important alternates.  Volume 2 also includes recordings
of a jam session Bird played in shortly after he was released from Camarillo.
While I've never understood what exactly constitutes a "Dial master take"
(Ross Russell released most of what Bird recorded, and often released different
takes of the same tune under different titles), I do have a couple of quibbles
with the selection the Stash people made.  For example, they include only the
B take of "Embraceable You", while the most famous (or at least most-often-
referred-to) take is the A take.  The same thing goes for "Klactoveedsedstene":
Stash includes take B, but take A is the best-known one.

					Steve Guattery
					smg@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: torda@igc.ethz.ch (Andrew Torda)
Subject: Re: John McLaughlin ?
Keywords: McLaughlin dates
Organization: Computational Chemistry, ETH, Zuerich
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:43:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.060546.905@ucselx.sdsu.edu> fbahrami@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Farhad Bahrami) writes:
>Does anybody have any info on the John McLaughlin Trio's usa tour ?  I read
>somewhere that they'd be touring the states, but checking the papers (LA times)
>has yielded no info.  I'm really looking forward to the 'Que Allegria' tour -
>hope they haven't given up on California.

They (McLaughlin + Trilok Gurtu + Dominique DiPiazza) are in Zurich on
wed oct 14. Have no idea if they are in the states before or after
Europe.
How much are tickets in the US ? McLaughlin is Sfr 35 to stand and Sfr
55 to sit (a franc is still somewhat smaller than a $US).

-Andrew
-- 

Andrew Torda, Computational Chemistry, ETH, Zurich, torda@igc.ethz.ch
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Subject: Re: Bley,Surman,Frisell,Motian
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:13:40 GMT
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL6]

: > How are the quartet albums by these guys on ECM?
: 
: I haven't heard these records. But I'm a fan of Bley, Motian and
: Frisell, in separate projects, but when they play together things
: tend to get too mellow and mushy for me.

The Bley quartet album on ECM (not sure which year) I've heard kind of fits
this description.  Much as I hate to sterotype a label, it has that "spacy ECM
sound" that I don't hear in any of their solo works - although I guess I may
not have heard any of Surman's.  I'm not sure "mellow" is the right word - I
mean, "easy listening" it isn't, nor is it commercially accessible a la
Metheney.  But "mushy" I'll buy.

--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: We need more structure here
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:21:01 GMT


>Haden, Charlie - and Liberation Music Orchestra - The Ballad of  (ECM 1983, CD)
>Haden, Charlie - and the Liberation Music Orchestra - Drea (Blue Note 1991, CD)

This is the wave of the future, folks.  On rec.music.jazz (which
will be here soon, rest assured) all record names will have to
fit in a 79 character line, OR ELSE.

And pull your shoulders back when you're at attention, dammit.


--Gidi


Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: andrew@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Andrew Shields)
Subject: Robert Creeley (was Re: New Steve Lacy)
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: tub
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:56:25 GMT

In <1992Sep26.015928.18600@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM> rayc@tara.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Ray Cole) writes:
>album) of the tracks.  For Lacy/Aebi fans, I highly recommend the Hat-Art
>albums "Songs", "Futurities Part I" and "Futurities Part II", especially
>"Futurities Part I".

>				-Ray
>				 Ray.Cole@SanDiego.NCR.COM

As a big fan of Robert Creeley's poetry, I've always wondered about
"Futurities".  Could people post some opinions of it?

There's also that Steve Swallow LP "Home" on ECM with Sheila Jordan
doing Creeley poems.  Anybody know of any others?

Andrew Shields
From: KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu (Karl Nordstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: r.m.bluenote --> r.m.jazz + r.m.blues (was: rec.music.jazz)
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:26:28 GMT
 <1992Sep28.224551.10200@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
 <1992Sep29.130900.15476@fct.unl.pt>
Organization: Penn State University


Luis Correia says:
>Gidi Avrahami writes:
>>Robin Gibson writes:
>>>I'd love to see a newsgroup dedicated to jazz and jazz only.
>>
>>Great.  That'll clean the air!
>>But, when you say "jazz and jazz only", does this mean no more Shakti,
>>Bela Fleck, Steve Reich, Wendy Carlos, Santana, Joni Mitchell?
>>Anxiously waiting for the decision of the Committee On Purity,
>>

>I don't understand why you worry. I remember a long discussion on this group
>about the Little Village recording. To me that's not blues and even less jazz.
>And still nobody kicked them out from r.m.b.

>If open mindedness is followed in this group I don't see why separating will
>decrease it.

rec.music.bluenote's description from news.groups is;

    Jazz, Blues and related types of music

That 'related types of music' is why we are open minded here.
Hey we need a three way split of r.m.b:

    r.m.b -> r.m.jazz + r.m.blues + r.m.related_types_of_music!

Where is all the r.m.related_types going to post?
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: mingus@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Damballah Wedo)
Subject: Re: Air
Organization: The Poto Mitan in the Houmfor
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:04:19 GMT

> gwl%wave3_1@concert.net (in <9209211250.AA09543@wavetracer.com>):
> There's also an "Air Mail" on Black Saint, I think.  There's a cut on
> "Wildflowers 1".

Yes indeed there was. Data below.

Air                                                   Black Saint BSR 0049 (LP)
Title: Air Mail                                                                
Recorded: 12/28/1980 at Right Track Studio, New York City                      
Released: 1981
With: Henry Threadgill (leader), Alto Sax, Tenor Sax, Flute, Hubcaps           
      Fred Hopkins (leader), Bass                                              
      Steve McCall (leader), Drums                                             
Contents: 1) B.K. (to a beautiful woman, Bobbie Kingsley)              ( 08:55)
          2) R.B. (to the late Ronnie Boykins, about his strength &
          serenity)                                                    ( 08:19)
          3) C.T., J.L. (to two great artists, Cecil Taylor and Jimmy
          Lyons)                                                       ( 18:27)
          Total:                                                       ( 35:41)
Purchased: No Date


-- 
Marcel-Franck Simon             	mingus@usl.com, usl!mingus

	" Papa Loko, ou se' van, ou-a pouse'-n ale'
	  Nou se' papiyon, n'a pote' nouvel bay Agwe' "
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Subject: Re: recommendations:Brubeck
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:20:42 GMT
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL6]

: >1. I don't know much about jazz, but want to listen more.
: >2. I have Brubeck's "Time Out," which I enjoy very much.
: >3. Could you please recommend other works similar to that which you think
: >   I would also enjoy. Other Brubeck? Other artists?

Most of Brubeck's recordings from the early fifties to the late 60's are very
similar to "Time Out", although few of the earlier ones feature such
deliberately obtuse meters.  Paul Desmond is what makes that album for many
people, and Desmond was on virtually all of Brubeck's albums during this time.

There are many other artists with whom you can make some comparison (Brubeck:
a little Ahmad Jamal, a little Lennie Tristano, a little Bill Evans; Desmond:
Lee Konitz, Warne Marsh, Stan Getz, Gerry Mulligan) but on the whole, nothing
I can think of really goes directly at the "Time Out" sound, which is kind of
strange, come to think of it - you'd think that would have been a pretty big
bandwagon.  There are certainly plenty of other mellowish quartet recordings,
such as any featuring any of the aforementioned saxophonists, but none seemed
to make any attempt to recreate the clash of the Desmond "dry martini" sound
with the quirky simple/melodic/arythmic/percussive piano of Brubeck.

: By Claude Bolling:
: Suite for Flute and Jazz Piano (w/ JPR!)
: Jazz a la Francaise

Personal tastes obviously differ, but I'd like to disrecommend this.  Not much
happening here, jazz wise, despite the name.  It is essentially completely
written and arranged baroque-styled music with romantic-era harmonies and
occasional brief bits of fairly non-swinging jazz piano.  That is, some surface
similarities to "Blue Rondo A La Turk", but with much, much less improvisation.
Which I suppose is not bad in itself (no need to be "purist" about it), but
that is about all it shares with "Time Out".

--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Subject: Re: Akiko Yano and Pat Metheny Discography
Reply-To: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:55:42 GMT

In article <lch5hcINNsui@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM (Gary Milliken) writes:

>I will be seeing the "group" in Northern California a week before you will.

It would be great to get a review from you and compare it to what I
see.

>The tickets just say "Pat Metheny" on them, which is probably the best choice
>of wording, because the words "Pat Metheny Group" would directly imply to
>long-time fans that Lyle Mays would be there.  He will not.  (And by the
>way, as I recall, Pat only played keyboards himself on one or two tunes
>from the new album.)

He plays the following keyboards on Secret Story, according to credits:

All synths (keyboards or not) on cuts
	1,2,3,4,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13 
Keyboards on cuts 2,3,6,7,11,12
Elec. piano on cuts 6,8,9
Acoustic piano on cuts 4,5,10,11

In fact the only non-Pat keyboards are Lyle Mays at acoustic piano on
cuts 2 & 6, and Gil Goldstein also on piano on cuts 7 & 9, and on
accordion on cut 4.

>I'm pretty sure that Steve
>Rodby and Paul Wertico will be along, as will Armando Marcal (spelling?).

Let's hope so.  

I haven't been as ambivalent about a PM concert in a long time, due to
my lack of enthusiasm for the album, but he is always a great performer.

Regards--
--Rob

-- 
Rob Lingelbach KB6CUN | 2660 Hollyridge Dr LA CA 90068 213 464 6266 (voice) 
rob@xyzoom.info.com   | "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or 
robl@netcom.com       |  cat are not the better for it."  --Abraham Lincoln
From: mjs@fc.hp.com (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Re: rec.music.creative_music
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:00:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: fc.BvpzsI.HFE
Reply-To: marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.2 PL6]

> If there's going to be a split in r.m.bluenote,
> I'd like to see a group evolve in which I can read about Braxton,
> Sun Ra, Duke Ellington, Howling Wolf, Elmore James, Pere Ubu, Fred  
>Frith, 
> Alvin Curran, The Molecules and debris.  I'd like to have the group 
> called rec.music.creative_music, from which title I would hope
> people would know not to post often on W, B, or D Marsalis. 
 
> I'd like to have the group 
> called rec.music.creative_music, from which title I would hope
> people would know not to post often on W, B, or D Marsalis. 

Don't you see that this is just as narrow-minded, if not more so, as what is
being criticized as "purism" among rec.music.bluenote "elite"?  In what sense
is W or B (I'll reserve judgement on D:-) not "creative"?  Apparently, it is
because they appear to improvise largely within an idiom that has been used
before.  Which would seem to imply that only an isolated few of, say, Duke's
recordings could be discussed in your hypothetical group - the rest were just
stylistic copies of things he or Fletcher Henderson or some else had done
before.

I just have to laugh whenever I see someone say, in effect, "you guys are
so judgemental and restrictive, only wanting to include people who fit your
narrow definition - let's invent a new category that only includes people that
we don't find to be restrictive".  The result is as restrictive as that which
you seek to escape.

--
Marc Sabatella
marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: sue@seada.com (Sue Raul)
Subject: A Suggestion for an Experiment (was: rec.music.creative_music)
Organization: Software Enginerring and Design Associates
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:53:49 GMT

How about an experiment based upon what other groups do.
In rec.arts.tv.soaps they use the initials for the soaps
so people can use KILL files to weed out soaps they're
not interested in. There may be over a hundred articles
a day but it's easy to use "KILL" files when every "Subject"
line begins with something like this -

Subject: AMC: Trevor's love life
(AMC is the initials for All My Children)

If you don't want to read about AMC, just put AMC in your KILL file.

The only people who would have problems with this are those who
don't have easy-to-operate kill facilities.  With that I can be of
no help. But I think it's a majority who can use the kill files easily.
===
Here on r.m.b. could start a convention in which:

people who want to read/post only blues use -
Subject: BLUES: A blues post

and people who want to read/post only jazz use -
Subject: JAZZ: A jazz post

and people who want to read/post only creative-music use -
Subject: CM: A creative music post

and people who don't catagorize their post to use something else, say -
Subject: NC: A no catagory post

This last one could be used for cross-category posts, say, where
blues and jazz are equally represented.

The only thing we need to do is remember to _use_ the Subject line
conventions.  A periodic (monthly) post informs newcomers
of the convention. (I suppose someone posts this monthly reminder and we'd
need a volunteer.  I can't volunteer, sorry.)

Any takers?

Sue
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby)
Subject: Re: Frank Zappa/Waka-Jawaka
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 16:13:08 EDT

  Regarding Zappa's discography, there is good music IMHO in all its 
phases.  You had the misfortune to buy some of his weaker albums 
("Overnite Sensation" and "Apostrophe").  Try "Joe's Garage," "Zappa In 
New York" (the CD version), "Them Or Us," or "Make A Jazz Noise Here" if 
you want some great latter-day Zappa.
  As for the information provided, none of the usual Mothers (except Bunk 
Gardner) played on "Lumpy Gravy," although some of them are in the talking 
sections.  No other outstanding errors that I noticed.

     Pat Buzby           "Fried ice cream is a reality!"-George Clinton
     Grove City, OH      "Music is the best."-Frank Zappa