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From: DAHMS@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Heribert Dahms)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
Subject: Is the doc of IV3.1 the same as IV3.1-beta3 or newer?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 13:52:06 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG (Dept. of Mechanical Engineering)
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There are missing chapters in the IV3.1-b3 doc e.g. "4.3 View":
"This section will be completed in the future."
I'm still working with b3 and want at least more documentation,
so I would get IV3.1 and extract at least doc and print it, if it's worth.


Bye, Heribert (dahms@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de)
From: zippy@cs.mcgill.ca (Fotis XIPOLITAKIS)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
Subject: Help with Interviews
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:31:19 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada

Hi,

	A while back I asked for a refferece to some documentation
that would help in programming with interviews. I did manage to get two
refferences:

You'll probably find my thesis a helpful addition.  You can order a
copy for a nominal charge from Naomi Schulman
<schulman@shasta.stanford.edu>.
Ask for a copy of CSL-TR-90-427 titled "Generalized Graphical Object
Editing."
John Vlissides / IBM T.J. Watson Research / vlis@watson.ibm.com

and

There is a paper in IEEE computer magazine (1990, 1991?) written
by John Vlissides and Mark Linton that discussed Unidraw. Also
a more detailed description appears in John Vlissides' Ph.D.
thesis. You can order the thesis by sending email to
schulman@shasta.stanford.edu, specifying TR-90-427. It costs
$16.28
Shipei Zhang   szhang@sbcs.sunysb.edu

Someone suggested that the best way to learn interviews is to play with
it or get your hands on some well commented code... Does anyone have
any well commented programs they would be willing to share... Any type
of program would be welcomed... I would also make these programs
available to others...

Thanx,

	Fotis


zippy@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: dac@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (david.a.copperman)
Subject: tracking cursor motion in a separate process
Keywords: Xlib
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:20:51 GMT

I posted this question to the net earlier.  I only got one response
(thanks, Dave S), and I think I phrased the question in a way that
made it appear rudimentary and therefore folks ignored it.  Please
try again - I need to know if I can do this before I commit to trying
to learn IV, which appears to be a major undertaking.

I have two processes, A and B.  A is written in X (no higher-level
packages).  It puts up a single window.  Process B forks and execs
A, and waits for it to come up.  Then it extracts the id (the X type
is Window) of A's window.  Process A (the graphics controller for
a geographical information system) operates under the control of B.
B needs to track cursor motion in A's window, so it (B) can do
real-time screen-to-world coordinate conversion and show the coordinates
in a window owned by B.

B is to be written in a higher-level package.  What I need to able to
do is assign the Window of A's window to some object/widget/etc. in B, 
then register for cursor motion events.  I understand that I can do
X-level programming in a program written in IV.  But it's very important
to me to not have to access the X event queue in code separate from
IV's code that does that - frankly, I'm not smart enough.  I want B's
code to be absolutely event driven, and simple enough that only one
entity (i.e., IV) need be involved in controlling the X event queue.
Is there some class in IV that I can use in this fashion?  More
specifically, can I create some object to which I can assign A's
Window, register for cursor motion in that window, and IV will call
the event handler for me?

A separate question:  B needs to be able to poll events going on in
other software having nothing to do with the screen.  I do that
in a prototype using Xt via Xt signal (alarm) handling, and it's fine.
Can I do some analog to this in IV?

Thanks very much.

Dave Copperman
dac@hoqaa.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: kk@cs.tu-berlin.de (Kolja Kaehler)
Subject: [IV3.1beta] begin_style(), how ?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:22:28 GMT

Hi,

I built an application which consists of a canvas and a menu. To allow 
customization of colors, I want to specify something like this in my
.Xdefaults:

App.background: blue    # bg color of canvas
App.menu.background: white # bg color of menubar/items

The first one was no problem, but - of course - all glyphs got a blue
background.
To customize my menu, I thought the way to go would be like this:

AppMenu::AppMenu(void)
{
	WidgetKit *kit = WidgetKit::instance();
	BarInfo *i;
	MenuItem *item;

	kit->begin_style("menu");	// this should set the current style

	MenuBar = kit->menubar();	// use the new style to build menu

	for (i = menubar; i->name != nil; i++) {
		item = kit->menubar_item(i->name);
		item->menu(MenuPane(i->menu));
		MenuBar->append_item(item);	
	}

	kit->end_style();				// return to root style
}

If I run this, my program segfaults somewhere in ivResource::ref() ... :-(
(*after* working through the above, but before mapping anything to the screen)

Please help!

	Kolja

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From: devernay@sophia.inria.fr (Frederic Devernay,Thesard,C012,657830)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
Subject: can't make ibuild with sun C++ 2.0
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:39:35 GMT
Reply-To: devernay@sophia.inria.fr
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis

this is THE error I get:

making all for SUN4 in ./src/bin/ibuild/SUN4
.
.
.
/usr/CC/sun4/CC     -Dcplusplus_2_0 -Div2_6_compatible   -I../../../.././src/include/IV-2_6 -I../../../.././src/include -I/usr/include/X11R5  -pipe -c ../ibed.c
CC  ../ibed.c:
/usr/CC/sun4/CC: 13854 Memory fault
139 errors
cc   -c -I/usr/CC/sun4/incl -I../../../.././src/include/IV-2_6 -I../../../.././src/include -I/usr/include/X11R5  -pipe
*** Error code 1

sounds like a CC bug, huh?

fred
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: rs@sna.co.umist.ac.uk (Roger Smith)
Subject: InterViews user manual.
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:23:48 GMT

Hello,
    we have InterViews 3.1 installed at UMIST on our Sun network. The 
accompanying documentation seems only to include a reference manual. While this
is useful, it is of limited use to someone attempting to learn how to use Inter
Views `from scratch'. I would like to know whether a user manual exists (or something that gives step by instructions on how to use InterViews or possibly a 
tutorial) and if so could we please have a copy?
   Kind regards,
        Roger Smith (Research Assistant).
From: schmidt@rpksun1.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Martin Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
Subject: How to force a window to be updated
Date: 7 Jan 1993 13:01:05 GMT
Organization: Univerity of Karlsruhe (FRG)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nz11.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de


Hi experts, 

can somebody tell me how to create a TopLevelWindow which
is directly maped on the screen after its creation ?

          Glyph *g = some thing
          TopLevelWindow *tw = new TopLevelWindow( g );
          tw->map();

           ... sync ....

Within the syncronisation method the draw methode of the Glyph should
be called. I tried to call tw->display()->sync(), but this does not
call the glyph's draw method. I also tried to use a Patch and call
reallocate, but this does not work because the canvas attribute of the
patch is not set.

Thanks for any advice
Martin
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: jasons@snoboy.tv.tek.com (Jason Scheck)
Subject: Resource life problem
Followup-To: comp.windows.interviews
Summary: Resource is unreffed before used in function call
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, OR
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:49:07 GMT

The idemo program contains the following line (it may have changed
since I grabbed the version I am using a few InterViews versions ago):

    main_ = new ApplicationWindow(
	new Background(
	    layout.vcenter(
		layout.vbox(
		    layout.vcenter(menubar(), 1.0),
		    body_
		)
	    ),
	    kit.background()
	)
    );

I am running this program on a 68k machine, using gcc 2.3.3 as the
compiler, with optimization turned on.  The compiler decided to call
kit.background() before calling the first part of the call to
Background::Background().  kit.background() returns a color with a
refcount of one.  However, the call to menubar() causes the resources
to be re-read, and the previously-read colors are unreferenced, which
causes the background to go to a reference count of zero, and it is
deleted.  However, we already have a pointer to the background that is
subsequently passed to the Background constructor (which by this time
point to something else entirely).  This problem only seems to
manifest itself with the Openlook and Motif kits (not the SMFKit), for
some reason.  The sparc version of gcc evaluates the arguments in the
opposite order, so the problem is not seen.

There are a number of ways of working around the problem in this
instance.  However, I can see the problem popping up in a number of
similar circumstances.  Any ideas about a general solution?

------------------------------------
E. Jason Scheck
jasons@tv.TV.TEK.COM
------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: garp@isy.liu.se (Johan Garpendahl)
Subject: Two questions about the RPC classes
Organization: Dept of EE, University of Linkoping
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:38:44 GMT

1) Shouldn't they really be called IPC classes?

As far as I can see, they implement Inter Process Communication, 
rather than Remote Procedure Calls. This is a minor detail though.

2) Isn't overloading on return type illegal?

I compiled the RPC classes with g++-2.3.3, and I have had great
difficulties with getting the sendplot/plot program to work, mainly
because g++ calls the iostream versions of operator<< and operator>>
rather than the iostreamb versions.

Is this an example of overloading on the return type, which I think is
illegal in c++, or is this a bug in g++? 

	Johan

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From: garp@isy.liu.se (Johan Garpendahl)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
Subject: Error in IV3.1-diffs for gcc-2.3.3!
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:31:51 GMT
Organization: Dept of EE, University of Linkoping

The diffs I just sent contains a minor error.
I was fixing up a set of statically linked binaries and forgot to
change it back.

In the file gcc.def, CCDriver is defined as

#define CCDriver g++ -O -static

Remove -static, unless you really want it.

	Johan
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: davidd@ctsx.celtech.com
Subject: IV on HP's anyone?
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:56:42 GMT
Organization: Cellular Technical Services, Seattle

Hello, before I ftp over the software, has anyone built 3.1 on an
HP- either a 700 and/or 9000/xxx? Any words of wisdom would be
appreciated.Oh yea, the only C++ compiler I have is gcc2.1. Is
this going to work? Thanks much.

David





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From: DAHMS@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Heribert Dahms)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
Subject: Is the manual of IV3.1 the same as IV3.1-beta3 or newer?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 23:48:57 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG (Dept. of Mechanical Engineering)
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There are missing chapters in the IV3.1-b3 doc e.g. "4.3 View":
"This section will be completed in the future."
I'm still working with b3 and want at least more documentation,
so I would get IV3.1 and extract at least *.ps and print it, if it's worth.


Bye, Heribert (dahms@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de)
From: garp@isy.liu.se (Johan Garpendahl)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
Subject: Re: compile 3.1 with g++ 2.3???
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:40:09 GMT
Organization: Dept of EE, University of Linkoping

ashish@optima.pkg.mcc.com (Ashish Parikh) writes:


>Has anyone out there *successfully* compiled IV3.1 with g++2.3.* under
>SunOS 4.1.*?  Any help is appreciated.

Yes, no problem. You might want my patches, available for anonymous ftp
from isy.liu.se:/pub/C++-classes/InterViews/local/. They fix up minor
details such as getting doc to work and getting more patterns in
idraw. They will also make it possible to compile the RPC classes, but
they don't work very well yet.

I tried to send you an answer by email, but there seems to be
something wrong with your email system.

	Johan

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: ashish@optima.pkg.mcc.com (Ashish Parikh)
Subject: compile 3.1 with g++ 2.3???
Organization: Microelectronics and Computer Technology Corp.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:32:32 GMT


Has anyone out there *successfully* compiled IV3.1 with g++2.3.* under
SunOS 4.1.*?  Any help is appreciated.

Ashish Parikh
ashish@mcc.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: dbh@fc.hp.com (Dave Hollenbeck)
Subject: Re: Menubars and FieldEditors
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:21:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
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Mark Linton (linton@marktwain.rad.sgi.com) wrote:
: In article <810@mesrx.UUCP>, amw116@mesrx.com (amy m wong) writes:
: |> 1) I have a simple question about appending MenuItem objects
: |> to menubars.  I want to know how to append a menu item to
: |> the far right of a menubar.  It seems that Menu automatically
: |> sticks a hglue() at the end of  a given menubar.  Thus, the 
: |> last menu item can never be right justified. 
: 
: Put a menu item containing a piece of hglue(fil, 0, fil) before the right-adjusted items.
: By making the natural size infinite, you force the box to shrink this glue
: instead of stretching the glue at the end of the menu bar.
 
Seems like what you really want is a subclass of Menu.  Or at least
an hbox.  Then you can have three menubar segments, the middle one
being empty.

Of course, I could be wrong.

Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: boedeker@OSFHRH01.RZ.FH-OSNABRUECK.DE
Subject: (none)
Organization: Internet-USENET Gateway at Stanford University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:45:13 GMT




From 
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  EMAIL: BOEDEKER@OSFHRH01.RZ.FH-OSNABRUECK.DE

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 I WANT TO BE ON THE INTERVIEW'S MAILING LIST

 I WANT TO GET CONTACT TO SOMEBODY WHO ALSO WANT TO INSTALL INTERVIEW'S
 ON 386-UNIX ESIX 4.04.

---

PROBLEM`S

I try to install Interview's 3.1 on Esix System V Release 4.04 with 
XFree86 (X11R5) with the GCC-Compiler 2.3.2 the libg++ 2.3. I have 
several problems.

============================================================================

A) The GCC-Compiler make's no serious mistakes, but later, if I try to link 
   program's doc,ibuild etc, etc there comes the errormessage: 

g++  -O2   -o a.out *.o     -L../../../.././src/lib/IV/X386 -lIV  -lXext -lX11 -lm  -lg++ -lsocket -lnsl
Undefined                       first referenced
 symbol                             in file
_vt.7istream.3ios                   Application.o
ld: a.out: fatal error: Symbol referencing errors. No output written to a.out
*** Error code 1 (bu21)
make: fatal error.

-lsocket and -lnsl are nessecary for ESIX

I find istream denfined in lib/Dispatch/iostreamb.c

---------------------------------------

ROOT_#grep istream iostreamb.o
7istreamRc__rs__10dpistreambRc_vt.istream.3ios_._10dpistreamb__10dpistreambiP9streambuf_vt.10dpistreamb.3ios__10dpistreambiswapped__6dpiosbUiswapped__C6dpiosbbinary__6dpiosbUibinary__C6dpiosb__builtin_delete_._6dpiosb_vt.6dpiosb.3ios_vt.ios__6dpiosbigcc2_compiled..rel.text.rel.data.rodata.comment.symtab.strtabq4{H@   *,OOT_#  w       Ll@

--------------------------------------

but not with then full name. I use NO DEBUGGING and FULL OPTIMIZING, in 
local.def. Idemo runs without problem's.

In the older Version of IV, 3.1-BETA3 I don't have this Mistake. 

Im not an expert in C++ programming,  do somebody know anything about this
problem ? 

===========================================================================

B) Shared Lib's on ESIX 4.04
In your Readme File tell you that you only support SUNOS Shared-Lib's 
exist any problem's if I try to make a port to Esix 4.04 SYSTEM V 386er
Shared Lib's ? I try it, and if ld try to make libIV.so.3.1 it end's with a 
segmentations fault and an core dump.  libUnidraw.so.3.1 make mo problem's. 
I use the LDFLAG -G. Is this an System Error or an Interview's error. Have 
somebody experience about this and can halp me. 

===========================================================================

If I solve this problems by myself I gave you an message.

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: roth@feline.cs.wisc.edu (Bill Roth)
Subject: Need Comparison paper
Summary: Need Comparison paper
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:31:54 GMT

A whil back, there was a paper posted to this group that did a comparison
of XLIB and InterViews. Could somone send me that file? I need 
to reference it in a paper I'm writing.


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.interviews
From: wittkopf@xx (Kevin Wittkopf)
Subject: Commercial InterViews 3.x variants, porting 2.6->3.x
Organization: x
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 19:01:56 GMT

We are currently in the planning stages of porting several InterViews 2.6
based applications (form-filling apps, graphics apps based on Idraw) to
Motif Look and Feel, and are evaluating several commercial InterViews 3.x
libraries that provide Motif. Among these are Quest ObjectViews C++, 
and HP InterViewsPlus. Does anyone have any experience, comments, etc. about
these?

Also, has anyone ported a major application from InterViews 2.6 to
InterViews 3.x? The class hierarchy was changed significantly, and a port
between these two versions definitly looks like a 'non-trivial' process...



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Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
From: jeff.arledge@u2u.lonestar.org (Jeff Arledge) 
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: STACKER 3.0
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: USER-TO-USER PCBoard (214)492-6565 (USR DS v32bis)
Reply-To: jeff.arledge@u2u.lonestar.org (Jeff Arledge) 

Recently purchased Stacker 3.0.  I have 125meg(C:) hard disk on my
computer and I also have a Bernoulli 90 (D:)meg Removeable disk system.
I put Stacker on my D: Drive only which is the removeable disk.  Every
once and a while, I get a message in Windows that it can not access
Drive E:. (I know that Drive E: is for Stacker's use.)  Does anybody
have any suggestions?  I need help.
Thanks,
Jeff
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From: jeff.arledge@u2u.lonestar.org (Jeff Arledge)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: STACKER 3.0
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:35:00 GMT
Reply-To: jeff.arledge@u2u.lonestar.org (Jeff Arledge)
Organization: USER-TO-USER PCBoard (214)492-6565 (USR DS v32bis)

Recently purchased Stacker 3.0.  I have 125meg(C:) hard disk on my
computer and I also have a Bernoulli 90 (D:)meg Removeable disk system.
I put Stacker on my D: Drive only which is the removeable disk.  Every
once and a while, I get a message in Windows that it can not access
Drive E:. (I know that Drive E: is for Stacker's use.)  Does anybody
have any suggestions?  I need help.
Thanks,
Jeff
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From: hines@socrates.ucsf.edu (Wade Hines)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: cps demo?
Summary: I would like a sample program using cps
Keywords: cps NeWs demo
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:57:23 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

I'm looking for a sample program that uses a postscript canvas and
cps to do simple colored line plots under OW3.0  I used code from
an old OW2.0 example to bootstrap myself but now am lost.  Any help
for an amatuer hack?  
Much Thanks,
--Wade
From: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.news
Subject: Programming for SB
Date: 12 Jan 1993 05:33:47 -0600
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: mike.mendis@madness.network23.com (Mike Mendis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


I am lloking for some good programs written for windows 3.1, in which they 
use the sound blaster.  Can you please E-Mail them to me.  Thanks 
Mike Mendis







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