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From: tasst2+@pitt.edu (Teri A Sobolik)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: F-S game 5 - the losing move
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:08:08 GMT
Organization: Chessnews list (chessnews-request@tssi.com)


It seems to me that the losing move in game 5 was 28.Nh4.  This move,
(which worked well in a different position in game 1), leads to a forced
loss of big material, and the game, it seems to me.  Why not 28.B:e4 instead?
The complications following that move seem rather murky, and not without chances for White on the K-side.  Any comments?
Jerry Meyers (USCF 2307)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair)
Subject: Re: Carlos Torre
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:44:23 GMT

   OXFORD CHESS COMPANION claims game between Adams and Torre was probably
the result of analysis, rather than an actual game.
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: Eric Schiller <schiller@sapir.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Fischer-
Organization: Chessnews list (chessnews-request@tssi.com)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:02:10 GMT


Would all those posting the bare moves of the Fischer-Spassky games
please clearly indicate this in the header, e.g,

FS-2 Game 5 Moves 1-29

This way we can avoid reading redundant posts.

Eric Schiller
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Subject: Re: Fischer press conference
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:32:18 GMT

bwatkins@nyx.cs.du.edu (The God of all machines) writes:
#
#Fischer is going off against jews only because he is one.  That makes
#it easy to blame his culture for everything.

According to Judaism he is not, since his mother is non-Jewish. Anyone,
including Fischer, can however convert to Judaism (fat chance).

#I doubt, though, that he is anyhting but paranoid.  Before you make your 
#own judgement, though, I'd listen to some serious conspiracy theorists.
#Fischer's nutsness is probably founded on some very convincing stuff
#which is miles away from what he propounds, but is also unjisitifedly
#called anti-semetic.

Perhaps you want to give us a clue of what you mean? I don't intend to
be sarcastic, I honestly don't know what you are talking about.

-Danny Keren.

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: peskin@epx.cis.umn.edu (Yury Peskin)
Subject: King's Indian question
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:15:21 GMT

I have a question for the King's Indian Defence experts out there (if you are
not too busy analyzing the Spassky-Fischer games...)

After some failures (as White) with the usual 1 d4 Nf6 2 c4 g6 3 Nc3 Bg7 4 e4
0-0 5 Nf3 d6 6 Be2 e5 7 0-0 Nc6 8 d5 Ne7 etc., I have begun studying Averbakh's
system (5 Be2 d6 6 Bg5).  In ECO E73, there is a line 6 ... h6 7 Be3 e5 8 de5
(not very ambitious) de5 9 Qd8 Rd8 10 Nd5 Na6 11 0-0-0 Kh7 12 Nf6 Bf6 13 Rd8
Bd8 14 Nf3 f6 "=" from Agzamov-Kupreichik, Erevan 1982.  I see no winning
chances for White; this could become "=/+".

Here is my question: can White get away with 11 Nf6 Bf6 12 Bh6 instead?  The
continuation in Steinitz style would probably be 12 ... Nb4 13 Kf1 Kh7 14 Bc1
(14 Be3 Nc2 and 15 ... Ne3 also looks fun for Black), when White has good
losing chances, but if he ever gets developed there may be winning chances as
well.

So, is this worth a try, or just too silly?  What do you think?

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Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: kees@cv.ruu.nl (Kees de Graaf)
Subject: Re: Prononciation Of Names
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:48:09 GMT
Organization: University of Utrecht, 3D Computer Vision Research Group

In <1992Sep9.082131.117@ipact.com> pals@ipact.com writes:

| In article <Bu9uv1.673.2@cs.cmu.edu>, nash+@cs.cmu.edu (Richard Nash) writes:
| 
| > Anyway, to get the ball rolling... 
| > I can't pronounce (or in some cases spell) these...
| > 
| > Pirc - I've always used PERK, but I am told it is PURSE. Which is right?
| 
| I remember reading it as "peertz".  

Peerch (ch as in couch).

| > Ruy Lupez - Roy Lou-Pez?
| 
| I thought it was "Ree ....

Don't even try. Do as the non-English-speaking world and call it
the Spanish Opening.                           ;-)

--Kees
From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Pronouncing GMs (was Re: Something Else, I Don't 
Date: 09 Sep 92 09:38
Organization: Magick Shoppe, Gurth City

mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel) writes:
> s:
> >>Anyway, what I really wanted to know is how to pronounce
> >>"Torre". Is it Torr\'e (Torr-ay) or just Tor.
> 
>      What about Edgar Colle, the Belgian player from the 30s.

What about Dzindzikhashwili?  8)
From: dweddin@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: WHAT'S WITH BOBBY?!?!?!?!
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:15:23 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

hey,

what's with Bobby???  he played brilliantly in the first 2
games....now he's playing like a fish. hey, even i knew
his sacs in game 5 were unsound.  

there was no attack...why ddid he make these sacs.

geez!  maybe bobby just stinks after 20 years of not playing.

i might have to restate my prediction....

spassky 10
fischer 2

don wedding
From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: fischer-spassky
Date: 10 Sep 92 10:18:44
Organization: CSUA/UCB
	<1992Sep7.074430.11871@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at>
	<4107@svin09.info.win.tue.nl>
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: alph@wsinfo01.win.tue.nl's message of 10 Sep 92 11:15:31 GMT


    Okay, let's call it the chess story of the century.
    (Note: not the most important match, the most important story!)

More important than when J. Polgar becomes world champion, or when she
then loses a match 10-0 to a computer which crushes everybody?
Ok, maybe.
From: gene@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Gene E. Johannsen)
Subject: Re: Kasparov vs. Letterman 1989 Move List w/annotation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:41:30 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

pleroy@us.oracle.com writes:

>In article <1992Sep12.012655.11903@panix.com>, paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker) writes:
>> 12-04-89
>> 
>> Subj: Kasparov vs. Letterman   
>  Moves abd comments deleted

>> 
>> 23.  GK: You're in good company.  All of the grandmasters have been
>>           checkmated by me. 
>> -- 
>> *******************************************************************
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>> Brooklyn NY usa                                Design & Consultation
>> ********************************************************************

>Actually, angel or devil, good or bad player, Bobby FISHER is still
>a Grand Master and I don't think Gary KASPAROV has ever played 
>against him. 

>True or false ?

Wow!  Allow the man some hyperbole, will you?

gene

>Patrick LEROY (NC)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: bwatkins@nyx.cs.du.edu (The God of all machines)
Subject: Re: fischer-spassky
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 00:42:15 GMT


You say fischer found FIDO impossible to change, and worked around it.
Actually he just quit playing.  He's been gone for 20 years, after all.

Kasparov found FIDO impossible to change or just not wortk changing, and
Formed the GMA (Grandmasters' Association) to work around it.  The GMA is
now held to be far more legitimate than FIDO.

Kasparov is world champion.  Fischer retired, and Kasparov challenged and
beat all comers who could prove worthiness.  This social epistomology
you're propounding is nonsense.  It was nonsense when I Kant proposed
it and it's more stupid to follow it now.  If the people can 'wish'
a World Champion, then why cna't they 'wish' the world to be flat and
have it be so?  It won't work either way.  

World championship is the condition of establishing your superiority
over all others on your world who play.  Fischer did not (would not)
play.  It is not dependent on anybody's say-so or it would be a politicla
position, not a sporting position.  It only depends on chess-playing.

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: morphy@cco.caltech.edu (Jones Maxime Murphy)
Subject: Fischer in trouble again
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:15:59 GMT

Fighting for his (chess) life in game 6. More later
Jones
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From: fry@zariski.harvard.edu (David Fry)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: F-S II game 6 moves 1-60
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:03:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Sep10.170323.15519
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard Math Department


Is a draw near?

   1. d4 d5
   2. c4 dxc4
   3. Nf3 Nf6
   4. e3 e6
   5. Bxc4 c5
   6. 0-0 a6
   7. dxc5 Qxd1
   8. Rxd1 Bxc5
   9. b3 Nbd7
   10. Bb2 b5
   11. Be2 Bb7
   12. Nbd2 Ke7
   13. a4 bxa4
   14. Rxa4 Rhb8
   15. Rc1 Bd5
   16. Ne5 Bd6
   17. Nxd7 Nxd7
   18. Rxa6 Rxa6
   19. Bxa6 f6
   20. Bc4 Bxc4
   21. Rxc4 Nc5
   22. Rc3 f5
   23. Ba3 Ne4
   24. Rc7+ Kd8
   25. Bxd6 Nxd2
   26. Rxg7 Rxb3
   27. h4 h5
   28. Bf4 Ke8
   29. Kh2 Rb2
   30. Kh3 Ne4
   31. f3 Nf2+
   32. Kg3 Nd3
   33. Bg5 e5
   34. Kh3 Nf2+
   35. Kh2 Nd3
   36. Bh6 Ne1
   37. Kg1 Nd3
   38. Bg5 Rb1+
   39. Kh2 Rb2
   40. Re7+ Kf8
   41. Re6 Kg7
   42. Kh3 Re2
   43. Rd6 Ne1
   44. Bf6+ Kg8
   45. Bxe5 Rxe3
   46. Bf4 Re2
   47. Rg6+ Kf7
   48. Rg5 Ke6
   49. Bc7 Ra2
   50. Bb6 Nd3
   51. Kh2 Ne1
   52. Kh3 Nd3
   53. Bc7 Rc2
   54. Bb6 Ra2
   55. Kg3 Ne1
   56. Rxh5 Rxg2
   57. Kf4 Nd3+
   58. Ke3 Ne5
   59. Rh6+ Kd5
   60. Bc7 Rg7
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson)
Subject: Re: WHAT'S WITH BOBBY?!?!?!?!
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:04:38 GMT

schoof@dec8.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.dbp.de (Jochen "Joscho" Schoof) writes:

: underestimated Fischer in the first games, but now he knows he can not
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Actually never thought I'd live to see anybody do this.
Sic transit gloria mundi.

/Par

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld)
Subject: Re: Prononciation Of Names
Reply-To: hau4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:30:44 GMT

In article <Bu9uv1.673.2@cs.cmu.edu> nash+@cs.cmu.edu (Richard Nash) writes:

>the same position as me. I would be happy to compile a list of words and
>their pronounciation if we could get people to volunteer both the words they
>can't pronounce, and the pronounciation of words they are sure of. I will
>post a summary if there is interest.
>
>Anyway, to get the ball rolling... 
>
>I can't pronounce (or in some cases spell) these...
>
>Pirc - I've always used PERK, but I am told it is PURSE. Which is right?

Neither. It is PEERTS (no such word as far as I know, but it is unambiguous
how to pronounce it - by international standard it is /pirts/). If you want
to pronounce it really correctly, you must roll the 'r', too.

(A few months ago I posted pronounciation list and rules for languages of
former Yugoslavia - Slovenian (like Pirc), Croatian and Serbian. Maybe 
somebody could repost it.)

>Seamisch - Same-ish?

Close enough (but it is written Saemisch or Sa"misch, not Seamisch).

>Najdorf - (is it neye-dorf or nage-dorf)

Assuming that 'neye' is like 'eye', it is the former.

>Ruy Lupez - Roy Lou-Pez?

It is written Ruy Lopez and pronounced Rooy LoPEZ. (But I am not sure about
the stress, this is assuming it is originally written without any accent
signs)

>Colle - Call-ley?

I'm not sure about this one, but I've heard the French version (CALL) most
often. However, I think he was Flemish, so the final 'e' should be heard, 
albeit muted - say CALLER the way a Bostonian would.)


Sven
From: fry@tara.harvard.edu (David Fry)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: F-S II, game 4 - Spassky wins
Date: 6 Sep 92 20:24:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Sep6.162422.15418
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard Math Department


Spassky won game 4 today in 50 moves after sacrificing the exchange
for a pawn in the early middle game of a Queen's Gambit Accepted.
I don't have the moves yet, but Fischer said, "One day you give a
lesson, and the next day your opponent gives you a lesson."

Moves to follow...

David Fry                                  fry@math.harvard.edu
Division of Applied Sciences               fry@huma1.bitnet
Harvard University                      ...!harvard!huma1!fry
Cambridge, MA  02138
From: walkie@netcom.com (Benjamin Wayne Witz)
Subject: Re: LW3 and Super Mario Brothers
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 08:29:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <3e6oqB3w164w@jwt.UUCP> bbs-garfield@jwt.UUCP writes:
>
>That's nice.. Wish I could.  I'm too much of a pinball freak and have too 
>little money to do that. :(  But you're right about the younger 
>generation comment, I'm 14 and haven't been playing Pinball TOO long.. 
><G>  But I've never seen a Pin with a Credit left in it, and if I did, 
>I'd probably play it even if I did have the quarter because I never 
>thought about it this way... Besides, I usually play till I'm out of 
>money, so I qualify for the "Don't have a quarter" status.. <G>

eheheh you learn several other ways to stretch yer buck.
Here in Portage we have a SlutPutt (er, PuttPutt :) where
they offer a super savers club.  It's $5 for one year, and
you can get 8 tokens/$ (or more with frequent specials
they have)  My only problem is these machines get maintained
every blue moon, and have you ever tried to play TAF
with 2 'flat' flippers?


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Portage, MI                  |             (616)3276419
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From: kjohnson@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Keith Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: The right stuff
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:08:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

There was a game out by Bally I believe that let you change settings.  It
had a pool theme, and you could choose from 3 different pool games.  At
least I'm pretty sure abouut this, since I didn't play it, just saw it.

keith
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Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: adoerfer@laserwar.pko.dec.com (_bill)
Subject: Re: The right stuff
Summary: MOTORDOME
Keywords: select features
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:12:48 GMT


In article <1992Sep10.131255.13477@athena.mit.edu>, sao@athena.mit.edu (Andy Oakland) writes...
>In article <BuBw6D.37v@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney) writes:
>>...I suspect that in the near future, we might be able to
>>choose a certain "rule set" to play under when we walk up to a pinball
>>game.  That would be interesting.
> 
>In fact, this has already happened!  I've played a game ("Blackwater
>100," I believe) where each player selected a difficulty level to play
>at.  
> 
>I'm fuzzy on the name of the machine...I know "Blackwater" is the moto-
>cross theme game which starts out in multiball mode and has a little
>red/yellow/green stoplight in the upper right.  But I'm not certain
>this is the one with selectable difficulty levels.  Does anyone know
>for sure, and does anyone else know of games where you could select
>difficulty levels?
> 
>	:Andy Oakland
>	sao@athena.mit.edu

Wrong end of the TNT line, Andy!  The game with the selectable skill level
was MOTORDOME.  Skill level I was Gearhead, Level II was Cruiser, Level
III was Dome Master.  You are right that some features varied depending
on skill level.  For example, how many letters in million the center
arrow lit.  THe operator coudl set that at level I, you'd spot 3 spots,
but only 2 at level II and one a level III.  A timer you were thinking
of was at level III on the drop traget that "guards" the ramp.  It would
reset in 9, 15, 21 or 27 seconds, but ONLY timed on level III play.
You would select your skill level at the start of the game using the
flipper buttons.

This was on sort of a different thread - but there was a similar discussion
along the lines of playfield features that the player controls.  Remember
there was a game that had inline drop targets (like 8-ball deluxe, party
animal, flash gordon and others), but on this one, if you played the game
well enough, you could knock down one of the targets - AND it would always
be the "next" one - the one you needed.  Button on the left knocked down
the left side, button on the righ knocked down the single player controled
drop target on the right.  So, you the player, could, at almost any time,
"configure" the game to include access to ramps, or not, and how many
drop targets you wanted to shoot for.  Name of the game at the end of the post.

A tip of the flip to Tom for CAR HOP, indeed another game puting scoring
feature awards into the hands of the player, and the game that let you
select either playing 8-ball or 9 ball was POOL SHARKS, the (regretably) last 
game from another great designer - Tony Kraemer (HOT TIP, DISCO FEVER, 
TRI-ZONE, ALGAR, PHARAOH, SWORDS OF FURY, TRUCK STOP, TRANSPORTER, POOL SHARKS)


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From: nin15b0b@merrimack.edu (David E. Sheafer)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Secret Mania - What is IT (HSII - The GetAway)
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:03:36 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

I was playing HSII - The Getaway yesterday & I got Secret Mania, have no
idea how i got it or what it is, or how to get it again

Can anyone tell me what it is and how to get it again

thanks


-- 
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From: PinballWizard@cup.portal.com (Rob M Rosenhouse)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Only ONE reply?
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 18:48:33 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

Most every game allows up to four replay scores.  There are also var
er, varying awards for hitting the high scores.  In the name of 'profit' most
operators allow only one replay score, and in this part of the country, most
of the games award NOTHING for hitting the high score.
 
Rob Rosenhouse
pinballwizard@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
From: farris@rtsg.mot.com (Dan Farris)
Subject: Re: Fish Tales
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:36:35 GMT

In article <josh.716172034@mowgli> josh@cqs.washington.edu (Josh Hayes) writes:
>
>Agreed! One of these showed up in our arcade - Phaedrus must be
>out of town, as I managed to squeak onto the high score list, but
>it seems like it would be ridiculously easy with a little practice
>to get scores well over 500M.

I had a chance to play this game for the first time yesterday.  I was very
surprised when playing only my second dollar, and not even having worked
out the best strategy yet, I posted a score of over 900M.  This easily
topped the list of high scores.  Here's how it happened:

I got a couple of jackpots during multi-ball and then I heard it holler
"Super Jackpot".  I heard it again and realized that it was triggered by
hitting the capture ball.  Quickly capitalizing on this opportunity, I
must have gotten about a half a dozen super jackpots in quick fashion.
I was too busy to look at the screen to see what kind of points I was
getting, but when the second to last ball rebounded from the capture
ball and went right down the middle, I looked up to see 200,000,000
staring me in the face.

I realize that this particular machine is probably a "beta", but do all
of the games allow repeated super jackpots?  Especially on such an easy
shot, right in the middle of the playfield?

Overall, the game was fun, the shots were interesting, but the multiple
super jackpots kind of takes the excitement out of getting a huge score.
Sorry, I didn't get to check the ROM level.  Maybe Don knows; he pointed
me to this place.  

I also played Dr. Who.  Awful game.  Is this a beta?  If so, don't expect
to see too many of these hitting the field.
-- 
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From: joee@cabezon.uucp (Joe Eckardt)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Eldorado Products
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:17:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: cabezon.1992Sep8.191708.10718
Organization: Logic Modelling Corporation of Beaverton Oregon

In article <1992Sep8.123450.21497@kth.se> d91-jal@dront.nada.kth.se (Johan Almen) writes:
>Hello Net!
>
>I'm going to order a pinball manual from Eldorado Products, and I have their
>address. It would be easier for me to be able to fax my request to them, so
>I wonder if someone knows a faxnumber to them.

Wouldn't help you.  They don't accept charge cards and won't mail
COD.  They want a check up front.  And plan on waiting 6 to 12 weeks
for the manual to arrive.  

>
>		With hope...Johan
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From: ben@monmouth.edu (Bennett Broder)
Newsgroups: rec.games.pinball
Subject: Re: Buying a pinball
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:40:49 GMT
Organization: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, NJ  07764

In article <1992Sep9.124435.9342@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00tdspence@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>
>Can someone please tell me where I can get a pinball?
>Can I just go to a hardware store and look for a huge ball bearing?  :-)
>I am buying one for a friend of mine for X-mas.

I'll bite.  What is your friend going to do with his pinball?

Pinballs are readily available from most distributors and operators.
Check your yellow pages under the category "amusement devices."  You
can also buy from some of the places mentioned in the FAQ.

But I'll give you a little advice...  Pinballs are alot more fun when
you have a pinball machine to put them in!! :-)

-- 

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                             Computer Services
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