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From: mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (John P. Mechalas)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Old Infocom Games and Legality
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:00:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Sep29.210634.8708@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Cliff Chen) writes:
>Well,
>	I know that this has been discussed before, but I was wondering
>that whether or not the copyright for games written by companies no longer
>existent, or if games which are no longer available on the market can be
>"pirated."
>	Once a game has outlived its manufacturer what can someone do?  I
>would love to have a complete set of Infocom games, however, I don't
>believe that I could still purchase them.  I have quite a few already, but

You can purchase them.  There is a two volume set called "Lost Treasures
of Infocom" that has all their games.  It was just released this summer.

       -=-JPM-=-

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-- 
John Mechalas                                          "I'm not an actor, but
mechalas@gn.ecn.purdue.edu                                 I play one on TV."
Aero Engineering, Purdue University                     #include disclaimer.h
From: zweldron@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Matthew Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Death Knights of Krynn installation
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:55:25 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

zweldron@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Matthew Charlap) writes:
>Death Knights, but whenever I load a saved game from Champoins, I get the
>following error:
>unable to load geo from load3dMap
I'm replying to myself here. I loaded the saved game from champios again, and
it worked fine. What I think the problem was is this: When I first transferred
the characters, I didn't begin playing right away. When you begin playing, this
file is prbably made. WHen I tried to load the game from DKK's save directory,
this file was not there, and it died. Now it seems to work fine.
--Matthew
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: stellis@nyx.cs.du.edu (Steve Ellis)
Subject: Hardball III
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 23:59:45 GMT

I am looking for Hardball III.  If you have it, and are willing to sell it at a cheap price I would be more than interested in buying it off you.

Please send all replies to stellis@nyx.cs.du.edu

Thank you.
From: itlm027@bambam.ucdavis.edu (The TimeWalker)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Where is Dungeon Master
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:09:36 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis

In article <1992Sep29.092527.9964@bsu-ucs.uucp> dabye@bsu-cs.bsu.edu writes:
>
>Is Dungeon Master out for the PC?????  I keep reading about it here on the
>net, but when I ask about it at the software stores ( Indiana ) they tell me
>it is not available or that they don't have a listing on it.  So where is this
>games being sold????? Electronics Botique is Nationwide but they don't even have
>it.
>
>Any info would be helpful....
>

Really? I saw it over a week ago at our local computer store here in
Davis, California.  It's called "Campus Computers" and I'm sure they'd
ship it if you're really that interested in it.  I don't have their number
handy, but if you call 916-555-1212 you can get it (out of AC info).


Sean

>
>
>Dave
From: dstein@cup.portal.com (Doug Mr-Science Stein)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Multiplayer (6+) card games?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:20:46 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

I have never heard of doppelbock or skat - do you have instructions and/or
a reference you can direct me to?
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com (Ross Erickson)
Subject: GAME BYTES 1992 AWARDS
Keywords: game bytes magazine
Reply-To: ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:59:49 GMT

--
Just a quick note about the Game Bytes GAME OF THE YEAR nomination
process that is going on now...

We are accepting nominations for Game of the Year, 1992 in the
following categories:

Strategy/Wargame
Action/Arcade
Simulation
Role-Playing Game
Adventure
Edu-tainment
Sports

and finally,

Best Overall Game 1992

Please EMAIL me your nominations.  They will be tallied until around
the Thanksgiving timeframe and then the top 3 in each category will be
posted for you to vote on.  We hope to get EVERYBODY involved in this.
Real awards will be sent to the companies whose products win the
category.  (Anybody want to donate some $$ for a small trophy??  :-)
Looks like it's me again!!)

Thanks for participating


-- 
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|  Ross Erickson             |                                     |
|  ross@kaos.b11.ingr.com    | "No individual raindrop considers   |
|  205-730-4019 - voice      |  itself responsible for the flood." |
|  205-730-6445 - fax        |                                     |
|  Internet: 129.135.252.87  |                                     |
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Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: cathy@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Catherine T Vojtas)
Subject: Help with NES's Destiny of the Empire
Summary: I need help with this game!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:38:48 GMT
Keywords: empire help stuck


D
I'm playing along and doing real well when all of a sudden I come across
a house in which there is a person who tells me that "beyond this point
you will be in Liu Zheng's peaceful land of Shu."  Then when I exit his
house I'm right in front of it again.  Of course it is surrounded by
mountains so I must go through his house.  I'm really stuck.  Oh yeah,
all the King, Liu Bei, will tell me is "Good Work".  I'm pretty sure I've 
conquered everything within my grasp, but obviously I've missed something.
Please tell me what.
				   thanx, Cathode Ray Tube


C
D
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Catherine Vojtas                        mail to: cathy@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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Xref: sparky rec.games.misc:17724 misc.forsale:27713
From: ciarlett@mizar.usc.edu (Joni Ciarletta)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,misc.forsale
Subject: IBM Games for Sale
Date: 2 Oct 1992 12:02:13 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

      ******************GAMES FOR SALE********************
 
I have the following IBM games for sale.  Original packaging, manuals and disks included. Prices include
shipping.
 
 
S101 (Sorcerers Get all the Girls)                     $20.00
Oligopoly                                              $15.00
 
(Or both for $30).
 
 
 
 
Please email any responses to ciarlett@mizar.usc.edu
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: For Sale..Dragon Wars for the C-64
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:21:29 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

For Sale

Dragon Wars for the C-64

$15/w shipping or best offer
-- 
I am the paper-cut that ruins your morning. . .
I am the ingrown nail on the foot of crime
I am the squashed bug on your flying saucer widshield.
I am the moth that seeks your porch light.
From: hodgkik@reis53.alleg.edu (Kenneth Hodgkiss)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: mechwarrior
Keywords: help
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:15:27 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Allegheny College


	A friend of mine gave me the game mechwarrior; infortunatley he  
has lost the codes to get into and play the game.  I would like to know if  
anyone out there has the codes and could really help me and e-mailk them  
to me.

			thanks
				ken
		hodgkik@alleg.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: EOB 2 - in Darkmoon!
From: corey.pratt@cccbbs.UUCP (Corey Pratt) 
Date: 4 Oct 92 22:56:00 GMT
Reply-To: corey.pratt@cccbbs.UUCP (Corey Pratt) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248

>        Cool.  What about the soft room, or the mark of darkmoon, or
>the southern wind?

Hint...  Try putting multiple items on a ledge.  Then try putting
something on the soft spot on the floor.

The Southern Wind Horn is in the 4th level of the catacombs.  It is one
of the horns needed to open a door to another level.



Corey Pratt
(513) 553-2372
cccbbs!corey.pratt@uceng.uc.edu
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Need Dungeon Master help
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 18:23:58 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

In answer to the two questions about Dungeon Master..

This room on Level 6 is one of the toughest puzzles in the
entire game..  I usually try not to give "spoilers", but this one
is a definate exception..
 
Simply *place* an item, doesn't matter what it is, you'll get
it back, onto the square where the blue transport field WILL be
before you pull the lever.. (DON'T *throw* it..!)

Then pull the lever.. the object will be transported onto the
pressure plate behind the wall and the gate will open.
 
(Throwing an object into the field makes the object come flying
out once it's transported.. a sufficiently heavy object *might*
land on the plate, but generally doesn't)
 
As for the "I am all, I am none" puzzle.. you should have
obtained an object on Level 5 which was a duplicate of an item
you found in the chest in the "Chambers of the Guardian" room
on Level 3.. 
 
This item, while no one in itself, can have anyone's face...
 
BobR
From: MWA102@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Exit to DOS?!?!?
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:52:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92273.135229MWA102
Organization: Penn State University

My roommate recently purchased OVERLORD, and though it is a simple game, I
rather like it.  However, the only way to exit the game is by rebooting the
computer!  Why would anyone design a program in this fashion.  Isn't that like
designing a car with no brakes?

Are there many other programs which require manual rebooting to exit the
program?  What do you think about this?

Mark
MWA102@psuvm.psu.edu
From: zweldron@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Matthew Charlap)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: EYE OF THE BEHOLDER II
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:13:57 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Question:
I finished the game a while ago, but one question still sticks in my mind:
by the 9 pressure plates in catacombs level 4, where do you find out, in the
game, the proper way to open it, or is this just trial and error?
--Matthew
Xref: sparky rec.games.misc:17571 comp.sys.mac.games:9511
From: jsbr+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Hamilton Slye)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,comp.sys.mac.games
Subject: Re: Macintosh Games Release Listing Heckler
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:32:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kelJKL_00WBOQ6QoRN
	<1992Sep26.173936.1@cubldr.colorado.edu>
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>> Get a life and stop worrying about stupid computer games.

Why don't you get a life and not re-copy the entire games list if all you are
going to do is make some stupid remark!

Don't you think it would help your point if you didn't re-copy the very thing
you were putting down, and thus re-advertise it...

Did your mother love you?

(Is it getting a bit hot around here?)



=========================================================================
J. Hamilton Slye (jsbr@andrew.cmu.edu) 1071 Morewood Ave., Pgh, Pa. 15213

The opinions stated above do not necessarily reflect those of the author!

"Oooohhhh no! Forget that stuff!"  -  Ren Hoek, "The Ren & Stimpy Show"
=========================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: dethomas@unix.amherst.edu (Dennis E Thomas '**)
Subject: Civilization Problems...
Organization: Quagmire High
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:20:04 GMT


I'm having a bit of a problem with Civilization. As I play the game, and
I get more and more stuff in my cities, the game starts taking longer
and longer to show me the selection menu when I want to change the
current output of a city. It eventually just hangs, with the drive being
accessed constantly. I let it run the other night, and when I woke up
the next morning, it was still going merrily, without ever bring up the
selection menu. 

The machine is a 386sx-16 with one meg of memory, running DR-dos 6.0 and
superstor. Civ is in a separate partition, so I don't think superstor is
what's doing it, but I might believe anything right now... 

Anybody got a clue what the hell is wrong here? I'm getting really
annoyed... I wanna play, but I can't keep restarting the damn thing all
the time. 

later days!
--dt

--
Dennis Thomas '**
Nerd For Hire, Budding Unix Weenie, and Mythical Figure.
dethomas@unix.amherst.edu
roach@aux1.amherst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: marek@nmsu.edu (Marek)
Subject: DARKSUN release question
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: rec.games.misc
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:35:18 GMT

Does anyone have any release date information for Darksun: The
Shattered Lands by SSI?
Thanks
Marek

______________________________
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                   CASCA LIVES!!!!!!

Xref: sparky rec.games.misc:17771 misc.forsale:27986
From: Mike Stukalin
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,misc.forsale
Subject: Re: IBM Games for Sale
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:58:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.games.misc
Distribution: na
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company, Rochester NY
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I'm looking for a game called 'Life and Death'
This is a game where you play a surgeon, making desicions on a patient.
I've seen it bundeled with a few oter games, but never by itself.
Anybody got it?
Send your offer of money/trade to mns6569@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Mike.S
Xref: sparky rec.games.misc:17671 rec.puzzles:6544
From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,rec.puzzles
Subject: Re: Wooden "Puzzles"...
Keywords: puzzle
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:11:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Sep30.201117.5061
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Sep30.192421.24091@cs.cornell.edu> samuel@cs.cornell.edu (S. Weber) writes:
>
>B&P tends to be a bit more expensive than other places, but I happen to have
>their catalog with me.  They sell a three puzzle set (the cube, barrel, and
>a cube-with-corners-chopped-off) for $19.95 + S&H, catalog number 07-H7062.

I don't know who made mine, but I have a cube, cube with chopped off
corners, and a sphere.  They all came in a set, and they are all the same
puzzle.  They are all just the same exact cube, with two of them sanded
into different shapes.  If this is important to you, you might want to
check it out first.

-- 
=============================================================================
Mark Harrison           |  "We are the Priests, of the Temples of Syrinx
harrison@sun.lclark.edu |   Our great computers fill the hallowed halls."
              -- Me     |                                    -- Rush
From: wingman@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Soundblaster Pro problem..
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:47:23 GMT
Organization: Mankato State University




        I have a problem.  I bought a Soundblaster Pro last Christmas and
whenever I play a Sierra-online game and choose Soundblaster in the setup, It
won't run.  When I run it, it says, "Unable to initialize Hardware".  I don't
think it's my computer.  I have a 486/33 with 8 MEG RAM.   So, I have to settle
with playing the game using Adlib emulation.  (*Darn*)   Can anyone help me??




                                        Colin
From: v092mbjm@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (THE BILGERAT)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Legend of Kyrandia HELP
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:15:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am having trouble with Legend of Kyrandia. I got the red potion and have
tried using tulips, violet roses, blueberries, trying to feed the nice *pet* &
I flying out to the castle with no luck. I have the heal, will-o-wisp spell and 
the blue stone spell, but I cannot figure what I need to make more than the red
potion (red flower and blueberries)

Please help, and don't Email me, just post it, because I am sure someone else
may have gotten stuck.

I ALSO NEED HELP for the stupid pipsqueak. How do I get the chalice back. I am
stuck!

Later
Bilge...
From: at15+@andrew.cmu.edu (Andrew Lewis Tepper)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: 7th Guest
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:38:48 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I called Virgin Games about this, and asked if there was any demo disk
yet. They said "Not available to the public." Now, if there are any of
you out there who are not a member of the public :) and have the demo
disk, I'd LOVE to see it. I plan to buy a CD-ROM drive specifically to
play this game!

Andy
From: kirby@dws003.unr.edu (Stephen Kirby)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Darklands
Keywords: Darklands Buggy Good
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:39:35 GMT
Reply-To: kirby@dws003.unr.edu (Stephen Kirby)
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

In article <Sep.23.18.00.39.1992.6397@romulus.rutgers.edu> ortelio@romulus.rutgers.edu (Fred Ortelio) writes:
>I too have been playing Darklands, and find it extremely enjoyable.
>I agree with previous comments about its open-endedness, and its
>attention to detail.  But one bug has me really irritated, it always

thanks

>occurs when I am fighting a demon, just when I get my chars close
>enough to really start pounding on the demon, the game chokes(spits
>out a message about not having enough memory).

This is a problem with versions 5 and 51 or Darklands. You need 
version 6.


>I've downloaded a fix from wuarchive's pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS (DARK51.ZIP)
>but it doesn't fix the problem.  It really irks me!
>
>Has anyone else had this problem?  I normally run DRDOS 6.0, but made
>a boot disk of MSDOS 5.0(with their recommended config and autoexec),

Yeah, I had the problem too. Version 6 fixed it. I fought a wimp of
a demon myself. Looked like a gargoyle. I had one character in Plate.
I let him take to punding while I shot quarrels and let my other
fighter close behind him.

This is a letter I sent to someone else who asked. If it isn't there
now let me know and I'll upload it again.

Check dk5_6.zip at wuarchive.wustl.edu.

The version number is listed when you boot up Darklands in that little
text screen just before the intro. It should be something like.

483.05

The numbers after the decimal point is the version number. This upgrade
does version 5 and 51 to version 6. If you have version 4 there is a
different upgrade available.

Steve

>Fred


Xref: sparky rec.games.misc:17734 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:15582
From: charlesr@wspcrd.PeachtreeCityGA.ncr.com (Charles Rutledge)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: Old Infocom Games and Legality
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:33:55 GMT
Reply-To: charlesr@wspcrd.PeachtreeCityGA.ncr.com (Charles Rutledge)
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR WSPC Peachtree City, Georgia

cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Cliff Chen) writes:
>I just wish to know if I can legally
>copy games from people, or if people could put them up on an ftp site or
>something.

Just as a point of information, a copyright held by a corporation runs for
75 years.  Usually when a corporation dies, the copyright is either sold
(these are corporate assests after all) and the rights revert back to the
author(s).  Copyrights held by individuals run for the life of the author(s)
plus 50 years.  Nothing enters the public domain except at the experation
of a copyright or it is specifically placed there by the copyright holder.

-- 
Charles Rutledge  /  NCR Test Program Development   |      NCR Corporation 
Internet: Charles.Rutledge@PeachtreeCityGA.NCR.COM  |  The Networked Computing
ATT: (404) 487-7000 Ext 7523 / Fax: (404) 487-7089  |     Resource Of AT&T
From: ortelio@romulus.rutgers.edu (Fred Ortelio)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Possible Darkland patch lvl 6 bug
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:08:55 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

itlm027@dale.ucdavis.edu (The TimeWalker) writes:

>The lvl 6 patch seems to have some nice new art scenes, and overall is 
>better, but I'm still having some problems w/ maps not being redrawn 
>correctly, esp. when in the countryside and the top of the map still is
>showing part of the entire german map from the F6 screen.

Ugh, I just got dumped to DOS from the mine south of Kuttenberg.
It happened on the fourth level down, I don't know how much further
there was to go, but at time like this I wish you could save the game
in the mines, or at least when changing levels, I really don't want
to want to go through it again to find I get dumped to DOS, and then
wait for another patch from Microprose.  I'm just gettting tired of 
finding their bugs for them!

A couple other annoying little things:

1. After hitting F6, the mouse pointer doesn't point to where
   I want my party to go.

2. The Essence of Grace potion does NOT act as a "cure"; I still
   have to rest my party to regain endurance/strength after a
   day of being cured.

Fred
ortelio@romulus.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: le@wldwst.enet.dec.com (Le)
Subject: dungeon master help needed
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 30 SEP 92 13:36:12    


Hi,

I stuck on level 6 or 7. There is a room that has two locked doors (red locks -
so I assume red keys are needed). From the entrance you must follow a 'snake'
path or be teleported back to the entrance. There is a sign on the wall that
says "Choose your door" (or something like this). Where do I find these keys?

Also, there is another location where you go down four or five levels of stairs
to reach another door that has a red key lock that is marked by what looks like
a backwards 3. Where is this key?

Also, I need another RA key. Where do I find this key?

I think I need some maps! Are there any available? How can I get them? I don't
have FTP capability so if someone could send them or maybe a walkthru I would
greatly appreciate it.

Thanks
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,rec.puzzles
From: samuel@cs.cornell.edu (S. Weber)
Subject: Re: Wooden "Puzzles"...
Keywords: puzzle
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:24:21 GMT

In article <BvB0D8.GA9@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> chews@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (HCE) writes:
>
>	I have a "puzzle" that my grandfather gave me which is a wood
>sphere made up of a number of interlocking pieces.  You can take
>it apart and you have about 10 pieces.  It is quite difficult to
>then figure out how to put them all back together again.  
> ... I would
>really appriciate any suggestions on where to find such
>puzzles.

Well, I don't know if these are the same as the puzzles that you are
looking for, but a large number of puzzles of this type are made by

                 Ishi Press
                 1-800-859-2086

You can get a free catalog from them by asking.  They have a variety of
these types of puzzles, including a cube, sphere, barrel, various animals,
and so forth.  I don't have the catalog with me at the moment, so I can't
quote you their prices.

Another company which sells some of the Ishi Press items is

                 Bits and Pieces
                 1-800-JIGSAWS

B&P tends to be a bit more expensive than other places, but I happen to have
their catalog with me.  They sell a three puzzle set (the cube, barrel, and
a cube-with-corners-chopped-off) for $19.95 + S&H, catalog number 07-H7062.

  -Sam
-- 
   -- Sam Weber                   "I never think of money,
                                   I think of milk and honey,
   samuel@cs.cornell.edu           Grinnin' like a cheshire cat!"
                                       --Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc