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From: kat@banach.WPI.EDU (Christina Lynne Freeman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: New kitten update
Date: 18 Nov 1992 02:22:23 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1992Nov17.000335.29327@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, ehp@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU ("Didi Pancake") writes:

|> Sometimes I think Bibs has a good deal of "water rat" in her background.
|> I know all kittens (or at least most kittens) go through a phase of
|> fascination with water, but most I've had grew out of it fairly quickly.
|> Bibs loves anything that produces a new puddle of water for her to
|> investigate...especially the bathroom sink. She is also absolutely mad
|> about the drain-hole in the tub...the plug disappeared years ago and I
|> seldom take tub-baths, so there is this interesting black hole to stick
|> paws into...

My kitty Higgins has never grown out of his fascination with water.  He loves
to watch the toilet being flushed.  If he happens to be in the bathroom while a 
flushing is in process, someone has to hold him or else he'll jump in.  He also
has been known to jump into showers and bath in the bathroom sink.  He's six years
old now so I doubt that he'll ever grow outta of it now...

kat
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      Christina Freeman                                 kat@wpi.wpi.edu
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Organization: H&SS Academic Advisory Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:24:15 -0500 
From: "Carol A. Buckner" <cb30+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: My roommate broke my kitten's leg!!!!
	<1992Nov12.234153.24416@infonode.ingr.com>

I know there have been a lot of comments on this subject, but I had to
add my penny-thought.

I agree that after a long day at work, the thought of settling down to
eat a wonderful plate of spaghetti only to have a kitten use it as a
trampling ground, would be a little disturbing }:o  However, animals
aren't stupid (at least not as much as some people that I know).  They
can be trained by using the right methods.  My Brandy, as a kitten, used
to try to eat off my plate.  After firm instructions and placing her
firmly, but not harshly on the floor, she hasn't tried, in 7 years, to
eat off my plate.  It didn't take breaking a leg or even tossing her
around the room.  Maybe you should throw your roommate and break
something off her--see how she likes it.

Being a lover of living things (more cats and dogs than humans on my
list of living affectionates) I'd never take a roommate who would be
cruel to animals.  Culture and background is no excuse for cruelty to
anyone--man or animal.  Though culture may make you think differently
toward animals, there is a difference between not viewing animals as
house pets and being outright cruel to them.  A person who is cruel to a
helpless kitten would no doubt be cruel to friends, family or just about
anyone who did something they didn't agree with.

I won't say dump her--as many have already suggested--but I'd think
twice about this relationship if I were you or at least pay her
back--you know eye for an eye, broken limb for broken limb ;-}



Carol

Just my one cent--because of inflation
or as some would call it, recession.
However broke by any other name 
still results in nothing in the wallet.

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From: mary@flipper.zmax.com (Mary Papp)
Subject: Successful move of my cat and I
Organization: Z/Max Computer Solutions, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:47:36 GMT

Thanks to all you netters you responded to my call for advice on how to move
my furball and I.  I thought I'd let you know how the move went.

First I took Slash to my parents house.  I self-moved so I couldn't depend
on my friends not to let him out.  Accidents do happen.  Slash hated the
ride to my parents, he cried and cried.  Once there he ran away and hid.  My
parents took care of him for three days.  They said that he wouldn't eat and 
he wouldn't let anyone pet him.  I felt like such a bad mommy for doing that
to him.

Then I moved myself and unpacked some familiar things so Slash would have 
something to see that he remembered.  When I went to get him he was so happy
to see me that he followed me around.  I held him for a while and then 
brought him to the dread cat carrier.  Once he saw what I had planned he 
freaked out and ran under a chair.  I guess he thought I was going to take 
him to the vet.  I finally got him in the box and to the car.  He was dreadfully
upset but calmer than the trip up.

When I got him to the new place, he began to growl and hiss at me.  He hated it!
I was so bummed.  I got his food and litter box all prepared.  He wouldn't let
me near him or anything.  So I decided to let him explore and left him alone
for a while.  When I came back he was happy to see me and a little more calmer.
He slept in his old spot on the bed and seems to like it.  He even used the 
litter box.

Moving wasn't has hard as I thought thanks for all the advice,

Mary (and the recently displaced Slash)


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: Confused about worms...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 19 Nov 1992 10:07 EST  

In article <1eeoe9INNgol@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU>, loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes...
>Just one more note: My vet said that the worm tests they run on the
>stool samples DO NOT detect tapeworms.  If there is any suspicion that
>the cat has tapeworms, they just give it the tapeworm pill anyway.
> 
>-Sandra

Isn't that because a tapeworm is a permanent resident and doesn't exit the 
cat's body on the feces express ? 

On a lighter note, they say a tapeworm is the *perfect* pet ...
goes where you go, eats what you eat ... etc. :-)

-- Stephen

	Growing up is easier than you think ... one day, you just wake
	up an adult ... and mourn your loss.
From: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Our gang of Spankies
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:09:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
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In a previous article, jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger) says:
>
>Has there been a recent federal ruling that all cats are to be named
>Spanky?  Or is this just one of those passing trendy names, like the
>batch of little Jessicas and Dylans that hit the public school system
>a couple of years ago?  Inquiring minds want to know.
>
I noticed this too :-) And as mom of one of the Spankies, I can
tell you mine was named after that fat, mischevious guy on the
Little Rascals. And just hours ago he got a new baby sister named
Darla. Spanky is a black/white longhair tuxedo, Darla is a gray/white
longhair tuxedo. They are touching noses and chasing each other
around the house, but no sign of real hostility yet. The cat gods
must be smiling on me today!
From: jshouman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Joan-Marie Shouman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: GOOD NEWS/Thanks
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:29:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

I wanted to tell everyone who cared that my cat Ari (whom I thought was
depressed) is better now.  He has finally showed some interest in his "little
sister" Natasha.  They play (All night long) and Ari has started grooming Tasha.  It's really a relief.  I guess I just panicked, being the over-protective
"Mom" that I am.

Also, some of the email that you sent was lost in a freak emacs accident while
I was reading it (ain't computers grand?), so I was unable to respond.  So,
for anyone who sent advice and did not hear back from me, Thanks!  It's nice
to know so many people care.

--Joan, the now happy Ari, and his little sister Tasha.


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Organization: Masters student, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:47:50 -0500 
From: Megan Terese Shult <msb3+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re:  Cats that JUMP

>I once saw a cat who, from a sitting position and with a perfectly relaxed
>expression, jumped on top of a refrigerator from the floor. An almost 6 foot
>jump, with no pre-jump run. He never did it again that I know of, and I've
>never seen any other cat come close. Amazing.


My four month old kitten does this quite frequently.  He's rather small,
and I couldn't believe it when I first saw him do it, but he can jump
straight up over six and a half feet, from the floor to the top of a
door, with no pre-jump run or movement at all.  It's like he levitates. 
I'm amazed. He also does this trick jumping from the floor up to the top
of the shower.  


However, I can't seem to keep him off anything, and nothing seems to
work.  He's a very friendly, affectionate cat, but he just doesn't care
if you tell him no.  Loud noises (clapping, hissing, pennies in a can)
work once and never again.  Squirting works, but only if you get up, go
all the way over to where he is, and squirt him.  As soon as you lay
back down (he does this after I go to bed) he's back up there again.
None of these measures have any long-term effects. He just doesn't seem
to care.  


What do I do?  

--Megan
From: larryw@sun.lclark.edu (Larry Westdahl)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Names
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:27:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov17.022746.21599
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

My roommate has a black cat, and he Christened the cat with the name
Spooky.  Now, I believe in the theory that dogs will respond to anything
and cats will respond to nothing.  Others believe, however, that a cat will
respond to its name.  With that in mind, let me present this paradox.
Since the cat came to live in our home, her name has experienced a process
of de-evolution.  Her name has turned in to different names (all from the
mouth of my roommate), and has in turn been altered in to variants of the NEW
names.  Here are some of her titles:

1.  Spooky
2.  Znookie
3.  Znookum
4.  Znoober
5.  Boo-boo
6.  Boo-Boo-Roo-Boo
7.  Lame-o
8.  Lame-Cat
9.  Bookum
10. Bookum-kitty
11. Fluff-a-lufagus
12. Spooky Z. Arkoff 
13. Kaiser Heinrich von Kittyschtein
14. Le Bon Chat (only used once)
15. Poo-Poo Head

Now, I understand that cats only hear what they wish to hear, but is it
confusing for Spooky to have more names than a Russian novel?  Have we
ruined what ever chance Spooky might have to understand her name?  I must
admit, she has been Znoober most of the time, but still it is rare 
for her to have only one name per day.

- Lawrence


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From: 6500sws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Susan W. Stockwell)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats on TV
Date: 23 Nov 92 06:50:42 GMT

In article <Bxvt4v.HLt@nic.umass.edu> jsw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (J. Williams) writes:


>Would anyone happen to have the words to Data's "Ode to Spot"?


>Jeremy

Happy to oblige!  Email me if you have different punctuation 
ideas, but we are pretty sure we got the verses right.

Spoilers for those who haven't seen "Schisms".....


Ode to Spot

Felis catus:  is your taxonomic nomenclature
An endothermic quadruped, carniverous by nature? 
Your visual, olfactory, and auditory senses
Contribute to your hunting skills and natural defenses.

I find myself intrigued by your subvocal oscillations,
A singular development of cat communications
That obviates your basic hedonistic predilection
For a rythmic stroking of your fur to demonstrate affection.

A tail is quite essential for your acrobatic talents;
You would not be so agile if you lacked its counterbalance.
And when not being utilized to aid in locomotion,
It often serves to illustrate the state of your emotion.

O Spot, the complex levels of behavior you display
Connote a fairly well-developed cognitive array.
And though you are not sentient, Spot, and do not comprehend,
I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.

--typed in thanks to Kiwi, who sometimes lets me borrow
her computer.  8^)




--
Twice five syllables,                                      /\_/\
Plus seven, can't say much -- but...                      = o o =
That's haiku for you. -- Douglas Hofstadter                 /^\
======>======>======> Susan W. Stockwell 6500sws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Catherine Stanton)
Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:53:47 GMT

On the front page, lower right hand corner of USA Today was also a picture
of Socks being accosted by not three, but *four* photographers, all on their
knees, crouching down, or otherwise altering normal rules of gravity for the
best angle.  Socks look fairly annoyed but I thought she was very cute.

Cat

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: greg.grainger@rose.com (greg grainger)
Subject: Re: Bye to MaiTai
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:59:51 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 11-18-92 08:44
On Nov. 15, bette@wc.novell.com (Elizabeth Brennan) wrote:

B(>Subject: Bye to MaiTai

B(>Anyway, thanks for letting me unload. Also, it would make me feel better
B(>if I thought that all the kitties out there got the extra hugs tonight
B(>that I wish I could give to MaiTai.

Consider it done. Charley and Lucy are grateful, even if they don't know
for what . . .

                                                Cheers,
                                                Greg.

Greg Grainger
Toronto, Ontario.
greg.grainger@rose.com
8:59:34 pm, Tue 11-17-1992.

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From: ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon)
Subject: Re: Neutering question
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:06:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.212236.26128@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rkn3u@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (R. Keith Norwood) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.194804.3493@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:
>>
>>the same? This just buggs me alot...in league with people who think
>>33 cents a can for food is WAY too expensive for a cat!! Please!
>>
>>Jen (proud mommy to Zeb
>
>Unless you have a fat wallet, there is a limit to how much you will spend
>on your cat.  This amount varies with the individual but there is no "correct"
>amount. 
>
Agreed.  We adopted a kitten from the animal shelter, and my husband
at the time said that if anything happened to her that would require
great medical expense, then we would put her to sleep and get another
one.  Its not that I don't love my kitten, and its not that I think
one cat is the same as another, but it is that we owe thousands
of dollars to credit card companies, in addition to owing the people
hospital $600 for ER visits.  If my cat broke her hip, we would have
to let it go or put her down as well.  

I wish I had the money to spend al I wanted, not only on the cat,
but on myself as well. And the cat doesn't get 33 cent cans when
we have difficulty feeding ourselves because money is tight.  I
am not mad and not trying to flame, but other people telling me
how to spend money that doesn't exist kind of irks me.  This
actually reminds me (not on the subject of cats) of a recent
episode in my life.  My husband was on the phone complaining to
his mother about what a mess the car was in, so she had her
husband make an appointment to have someone look at the car.
Well, naturally, we thought they were offering to take care
of the cost for us, but that wasn't the case.  they just
made an appointment to get the car looked at us, expecting us
to pay for it, because they seemed to think that the motivating
factor behind not getting the car fixed was that we were too
stupid to know to take a car to a mechanic, not that we knew
we couldn't afford it! Grrrrrrrr.....  I wonder about people
sometimes.

Sorry for the non-cat strory--had to get that off my chest somehow!
From: iadt1jm@prism.gatech.EDU (Jean McSpadden)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Neutering question
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:43:50 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1e8nn4INN99v@agate.berkeley.edu> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
>rhart@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Hart) writes:
>>Is is normal for the vet to keep the cat overnight after
>>neuter surgery? This is a male cat. I don't remember this
>>being the practice last time I had a boy cat (years ago).
>>
>>I don't think they even kept my girls overnight, come to think of it.
>>
>>Net wisdom?

>Your vet has learned much from watching cats over
>the years.

>He's learned to fluff up his invoices.

Not necessarily, in fact it may just be the opposite.  

I just got my latest kitten, Tooncinator neutered.  At first I called the 
vet he had been seeing at _Pets are People Too_ and though they offer low cost 
neutering for only $21 dollars, she said they would keep him overnight. 
Since my kitten hated the vets, I did not want him to stay overnight, so I 
called the Atlanta Humane Society clinic.  They said that they will neuter
the kitten for $20, but insisted that any cat who was given anesthesia
be kept under observation for 24 hours.  I knew these good people
had the welfare of the cat in mind, but, I have had many cats over
the years and felt that I would be able to take care of him and get
to a nearby 24 hour pet clinic if an emergency arose.  So, I took Toonce to
_The Cat Doctor_, who is an upscale vet in an expensive neighborhood.
They charged $60, but said I could take him home whenever I wanted to.
He was neutered there and I took him home 3 hours later and he did well,
but I did feel that that vet was more concerned with keeping the
owner happy then the welfare of the cat.



-- 
Jean McSpadden
IT-ISS 0185 
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Jean.McSpadden@prism.gatech.edu
From: John.Seboldt@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (John Seboldt)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: cats&music (was other mo
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 14:41:02 -0600

On 11-11-92, Brett Lymn wrote to All:

>------------------------------------

>>>>> On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:54:12 GMT, 
>>>>> philip@labtam.labtam.oz.au (Philip Stephens) said:

Philip> Deirdre A. Johnson writes:

>My cat when I was little just loved the clarinet - or that's

 <discreet cut>

Philip>   Hmmm.  Our cat has always reacted strangely to my 
sister playing the flute.
Philip> She gets all cute and lovable all of a sudden, 
starts to purr madly, make funny
Philip> meowing noises, and will kneed you and cuddle up to 
you...the whole works!

Our cat is the same, loves the flutey sort of music.  She also loves

>------------------------------------

One of our cats will respond to the sounds of a recorder (end-blown flute) 
-- but especially when you make wierd sounds that kind of slide between 
two notes with a jump between.  Lots of "purt, purt", purring, rubbing, 
sitting in your lap, etc.  

The same cat will love to get on top of the grand piano and watch the 
dampers and hammers do their thing.  But only if we haven't practiced at 
home for a while, and the sound is "fresh" to her!




 * Freddie 1.2 * "Mao."  "Mousie Dong". -- B. Kliban

 * Origin: Dark Knight's Table (1:282/31)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (cindy davies)
Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 20:57:31 GMT

In today's (Wednesday November 18, Rapid City Journal there is a front page
picture of Socks surrounded by at 3 photographers.  The caption says, 
"A star is born:  Chelsea Clinton's cat Socks gets the attention of 
photographers on the sidewalk outside the Arkansas Governor's Mansion
in Little Rock Tuesday.  Sock strolled about a two block area with 
photographers in tow.

This is a 3.5X5 colored picture Hmm.  I don't remember Millie getting
her picture on the front page even when her book was published.  Maybe
the media really is biased.  (btw the Journal endorsed Bush for  president.

--

TNSTAAFD -- There's No Such Thing As A Free Dog.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: brandon@decatur.Stanford.EDU (Eric Brandon)
Subject: Re: My roommate broke my kitten
Organization: Psychology Dept, Stanford Univ.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 06:20:30 GMT

We think your roommate should be lashed to a stake, covered in Pounce,
and forced to endure the ravages of one thousand hungry kittens.

-- Eric, Cristie, Charlie & Snowball
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