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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: s****y vs MELBOURNE vs tasmania
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:53:54 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
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quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
>In <Bz6L58.9AH@NeoSoft.com> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:

>>Good god, did I start this?
>I thought *I* did.

No, _I_ did. You have no idea about how to start a flame war, you f***-
ing imbecile morons!  :-)


May the Coo-- ***FLAME*** -- *melt*

(C)OOL mcmxcii
From: gk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Gavin Kerr)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: List of Terry's books
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:52:30 GMT
Reply-To: gk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Gavin Kerr)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U


Can someone please send me a list of terrys books???? Especially the discworld
books(Preferably in order......).

Sorry if you think Im sad, but thats the way it is....


Email preferred
Gav

email:  gk@dcs.ed.ac.uk
	gk@castle.ed.ac.uk
	gkerr@nyx.cs.du.edu

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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Bromeliad Trilogy - Frogs?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:40:20 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
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kcl@world.std.com (Katherine C Long) writes:

>     In the Bromeliad Trilogy, you know, Truckers/Diggers/Wings,
>Grimma talks about the frogs who live in the bromeliad (a neat
>plant that can hold pools of water in its flower and support
>small life).  The frogs appear in the second book but really
>get into the story in Wings.  (IMHO, Diggers and Wings have to
>be read at almost the same time since the story happens pretty
>much concurrently.)  In my circles (a large library) mip is as
>much our battle cry as is ook!

I guess it's especially feared among the coyotes about you.

"Meep! Meep!" ***ZOOM***


May the Cool Be with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
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From: shemminga@cix.compulink.co.uk (Stuart Hemming)
Subject: Re: Bonsai!
Reply-To: shemminga@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:08:00 +0000




TITLE: Re: Bonsai!


In <1992Dec15.095658.2814@nuscc.nus.sg> WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN asks:

> The dean is making a good show of a bad situation because he doesn't
> know the right phrase. Anyone care to translate bonsai?

It is, I believe, that art of cultivating small trees.

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From: damiene@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Eccles)
Subject: Re: TP is OZ
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:50:15 GMT

jimgar@scorch.apana.org.au (Jim Garner) writes:

>Regarding the advocacy of melbourne among other Australian cities:
>Terry has obviously been to melbourne already. Where else could he
>have gotten his ideas about the river at Ankh-Morpork except from the
>Yarra. (Oozing not flowing, Purified by so many kidneys, etc.)
>-- 

It hasn't dissolved the bridges yet, tho....

Eccles

Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: nickles@sage.cc.purdue.edu (john a nickles)
Subject: Re: Lords and Ladies annotations
Summary: "the bitch is older" quote
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:22:28 GMT

Being American, I don't actually have access to Lords and Ladies
and so am not sure what the exact quotation is in that book.
I do however know what "And besides the bitch is .. older."comes from.

     You have committed fornication,
     But that was many years ago,
     And in another country,
     And besides, the wench is dead.

                               Christopher Marlowe
                           either The Jew of Malta or The Duchess of Malfi
                               (I'm not sure which)

John A. Nickles
Standard Disclaimer: I speaketh not for Purdue
"ook"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Subject: Re: New US DW publisher
Reply-To: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:19:00 GMT

In article <memo.815741@cix.compulink.co.uk> tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>Those who pick  up Locus, the house magazine of the sf/f industry, will have
>seen a short par saying that the DW books from Witches Abroad onwards have
>been sold to HarperCollins in the US.  [...]
>Anyway...if all goes ahead as planned, an important difference will
>be DW hardbacks in the US. 

  And there was much rejoicing!  Will they be releasing the U.S.
editions of WA, SG, and L+L all at once (I assume not, as that seems
like bad marketing), or at an accelerated rate, so as to have the U.S.
and U.K. releases of MEN AT ARMS be simultaneous?  I certainly hope
they manage to get them on track by that point, at any rate.

  (What's the projected release date for MEN AT ARMS now, anyway?)

  Also, will this contract cover non-DW books?  (OYCSM especially, I
suppose...)

--
Jonathan Lennox
From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: does terry exist? (was if reaperman=lawnmower man)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:04:39 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
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aesba1ii@dct.ac.uk writes:

>  you mean if we stop believing in terry he may remain in the  shape of a small
>tortoise or something?

That depends. Can anybody confirm that he wears reflector Ray Bans all
the time? (Like me.)


Cock-a-doodle-doo!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk (Terry Pratchett)
Subject: New US DW publisher                     
Cc: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:17:00 +0000

Those who pick  up Locus, the house magazine of the sf/f industry, will have
seen a short par saying that the DW books from Witches Abroad onwards have
been sold to HarperCollins in the US.  This is true...ish.  We're talking
happily to them and lots of stuff has been agreed and no-one sees any real
problems, but nothing has actually been signed so it's interesting that Locus
have picked it up.  Anyway...if all goes ahead as planned, an important
difference will be DW hardbacks in the US.  I'll be meeting up with HC people
in the new year to talk about it all, if everything pans out.

Terry
From: phil@csc.liv.ac.uk (Phil Jimmieson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Flying Things perform Mort
Date: 14 Dec 92 12:52:12 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

In article <BRUCE.92Dec14114352@suprenum.uxb.liv.ac.uk>, bruce@uxb.liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens) writes:
> I just went to see Mort at the Unity Theatre, Liverpool.  Amazing turn
> out---it was pretty much a sell-out, even though it was after the end
> of term for the University, and the Unity almost never sells out.
> Anyway, it's well worth seeing.  It's very funny, follows the plot
> amazingly well, and is altogether a Very Clever Adaptation.

I must agree with Bruce. A group of us (9 of us) went to see "Mort" and
we were all *seriously* impressed. It probably helped if you'd read the
book (or since we all *had* it was probably a little more obscure if you
*hadn't* read the book). The four actors involved coped with all the
different characters *wonderfully*. DEATH was *excellent*, and Ridcully as a
Brummy wizard was *great*.

If you get a chance - GO SEE IT!

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From: jmorris@spider.co.uk (John Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Mort and Reaper Man
Date: 10 Dec 92 15:39:54 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <925710085749@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> Richard Thomas - STUCS204@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090 writes:
>
>Broad Lancs is a fine way of speaking.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
Err...This isn't yet more rhyming slang, is it?

John.
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From: I.M.Blackburn@newcastle.ac.uk (I.M. Blackburn)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Lords and Ladies annotations
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:17:38 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


> p222: The sleeping king and his warriors who will awake at the End of
>       Things when a wolf eats the sun - this rings a bell (sorry :-))

>This is another one of Terry's famous Mixed Legends along the lines of
>the princess and the pea discussion we recently had.

>The Wolf eating the Sun at the end of time is from Norse mythology.
>The sleeping king + warriors who will awake are pretty stereotypical
>legend stuff, too. Although the only real reference that comes to
>my mind at the moment is Tolkien,

-- 
>Leo Breebaart  (leo @ cp.tn.tudelft.nl)


The Sleeping King and his warriors is part of the Arthur legend.  He did not
die he was taken to Avalon and sleeps under a hill until he is needed to 
protect Britain from extreme peril, when he will awake.  

Americans have Superman, we have Arthur.

Irene Blackburn
Computing Laboratory
University of Newcastle upon Tyne
NE1 7RU
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: kcl@world.std.com (Katherine C Long)
Subject: Bromeliad Trilogy - Frogs?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:10:09 GMT

Dear Folks,

     In the Bromeliad Trilogy, you know, Truckers/Diggers/Wings,
Grimma talks about the frogs who live in the bromeliad (a neat
plant that can hold pools of water in its flower and support
small life).  The frogs appear in the second book but really
get into the story in Wings.  (IMHO, Diggers and Wings have to
be read at almost the same time since the story happens pretty
much concurrently.)  In my circles (a large library) mip is as
much our battle cry as is ook!

    Anyhow, is the frog story based loosely on any other book,
folklore, song, story, etc?  Or is it Terry's own?  I find it
interesting that the name of the series changes.  My copy of
Diggers is subtitled "The Second Book of the Bromeliad" and
Wings is subtitled "The Third Book of the Nomes."  I like the
Bromeliad title much better, since the Book of Nome is very
different from the trilogy.  All we know of the Book is from
the chapter headings in Vol 1 & 2.  (Vol 3 has chapter headings
from A Scientific Encyclopedia for the Enquiring Young Nome by
Angalo de Haberdasheri.)  The chapter headings sort of take the
place of footnotes in the Discworld books.  Wonderful words of wisdom
such as:
       --------------------------------------------------
      | CONCORDE:  It goes twice as fast as a bullet and |
      |  you get smoked salmon.                          |
      |                                                  |
      | From A Scientific Encyclopedia for the Enquiring |
      | Young Nome      by Angalo de Haberdasheri        |
      |                                                  |
      | --------------------------------------------------


     Katherine Long
     kcl@world.std.com

     8-)
      XXXXxxxx=
From: ee89psw@brunel.ac.uk (Paul S Wain)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Full list of TPs books..
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:48:26 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Gavin Kerr (gk@dcs.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
: Look, Im a student who can only occasionally afford to buy books.

Yep, me too, but I make an exception for TP books, and have most in hard back ;)

: I have missed some of TPs books and what I want is a full list of ALL of his 
: books.
: If anyone can spare the time to do this Id much appreciate it.
: If they could also put the discworld books in in order Id appreciate it even 
: more..

The list as per the front of Lords and Ladies (Hard back of course!) reads:
(I don't claim that this is definative, just what Terry and the publishers
 admit to ;)

The Carpet People

The Dark Side of the Sun
Strata

Truckers
Diggers
Wings

The Unadulterated Cat (with Gray Jolliffe)

Good Omens (with Neil Gainman)

The Diskworld Series:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Colour of Magic
The Light Fantastic
Equal Rites
Mort
Sourcery
Wyrd Sisters
Pyramids
Guards! Guards!
Eric (with Josh Kirby {who else?})
Moving Pictures
Reaper Man
Witches Abroad
Small Gods
Lords and Ladies


I'm pretty sure tho' that there is one missing from that list... Another book
on cats? 

If you haven't read the unadulterated cat yet, try it next! By far and away the
funniest book yet! It sums up my cat perfectly (we now call her argeroffoutait)
when she does anything. And how does she always end up under the floor? or in
the loft? I think she could be a true schrodinger cat (spelling?)

: Thanks a lot..

Sokay!

: Gav

Paul
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From: andy@orchid.bdc.ubc.ca (Andrew Dwelly)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Terry Pratchett Bibliography
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:07:09 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
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I wonder if it would be possible to gradually include some more  
information about the editions as physical objects in the bibliography,  
particularly the hard cover editions. This sort of information is really  
useful for those of us who collect 1st editions of these books. As a  
representative of one of these unfortunate creatures I can tell you that  
these editions are scarce, and information about them is even harder to  
get hold of.

I can contribute data on Witches Abroad, and Sourcery. 
--
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(604) 822-6527, andy@bcu.ubc.ca
From: jmorris@spider.co.uk (John Morris)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Guards!^2 on Radio5  - queries
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:25:39 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Dec17.142150.2559@dct.ac.uk> mcramm@dct.ac.uk (McRamm) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.112157.21678@spider.co.uk>, jmorris@spider.co.uk (John Morris) writes:
>> In article <1992Dec16.125000.2528@dct.ac.uk> mcramm@dct.ac.uk (McRamm) writes:
>>>
>>>i) Who's taken all the figgins away? I've listened to all 4 epsisodes and 
>>>not once have I heard mention of these delicacies.
>> 
>> There was one quick mention: CMOT shouting "Sausages! Figgins!..."
>
>But that just doesn't make sense without all the other figgin references.
>It even prevents my favourite bit in the whole book, where the prisoner is
>asked if he wants his figgin toasted...
>
>IMHO the BBC should be dropped into the same pit as the mime artists (with a
>new sign - "Keep the jokes!".....
>
Agreed! True, condensing a full length novel into three hours must mean
leaving some bits out - but the adaption in places seems to be "I'll drop
one of Terry's jokes to make room for one of mine".  Some of the passing
references could only be funny to somebody who already knew the book well.

Is there any TP fan out there who _likes_ this adaption?

John.




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From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Lords and Ladies annotations
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:42:56 GMT

In article <leo.724076499@draconis> leo@cp.tn.tudelft.nl writes:
> The sleeping king + warriors who will awake are pretty stereotypical
> legend stuff, too. Although the only real reference that comes to
> my mind at the moment is Tolkien,

How about King Arthur, you great steaming clockwork git? The krauts have
a similar legend about one of their canonised mythical bandit chieftans
too. I suspect every country that had a leather-and-chainmail period has
a similar legend if you dig through the mutated political propoganda we
call myths and legends.
-- 
Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
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  'U`    
Tarjoilija, tm ateria el viel.
From: dcw-a@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Mort and Reaper Man
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:49:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

In article <29220@castle.ed.ac.uk> jane@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jane Hesketh) writes:
>
>Re:  Origins of Berk
>
>In article <1992Dec7.151555.11377@aston.ac.uk> thompsmr@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Thompson) writes:
>>
>>	"Where did the term originally come from" the multitude cry...
>>
>>	Well, it came from the cockney rhyming slang term "Berkshire Hunt", 
>>which rhymes with... well, let's just say it's VERY rude, begins with "c", and
>>I'll leave it at that.
>>
>
>I don't believe that. If it were true, berk would be pronounced "bark",
>as Berkshire is pronounced Barkshire (for thos ebeyond the sceptred
>isle)
>
>Jane

	It is true it is. Honest. Fit's in with such wonderful local rhymes
such as:

	Berkshire born and Berkshire bred,
	Strong in the arm and thick in the head.

	Doug.

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From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: STOP IT! NOW! (Pretty please?)
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 04:11:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.012535.28720@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
> >(Of course, Sydney *IS* much nicer and less rainy then Melbourne :-)

> Completely untrue.  Sydney's average annual rainfall is higher than
> Melbourne's.

It's all in distribution. Sydney takes a lot of its rainfall in total dumping
thunderstorms in the afternoon: so you don't blow the *whole* day and you
don't need as many rainy days.

The nastiest ones, the "Southerly Busters", are imported from Melbourne
anyway.
-- 
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 `-_-'   Oletko halannut suttasi tnn?
  'U`    
Tarjoilija, tm ateria el viel.
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From: sgcclmj@citec.oz.au (Liz Jones)
Subject: Re: G!G! 2nd Installment
Organization: CITEC
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:42:57 GMT

cstadgs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr R J Tinsley) writes:
: 
: Just a couple of minor points:
: 
: I missed the reference to Rincewind's age - I think I'd better go and hunt it
: down before I make any more silly mistakes. (And I've read TCOM/TLF at least
: half-a-dozen times ... where is it?)
    i don't think it does refer to rincewind's age, altho i could be wrong.
    it does somehow give the impression that he's young, but it also gives
    the impression that he's not all that ambitious a wizard which would mean
    he could be at the university for a long time and not get far (and stay
    alive :).

: Personally I love Josh Kirby's covers, but I must admit that for the first
: couple of Discworld books, he didn't read the books too closely. (That
: scantily-clad woman had me confused too.) He does seem to have improved in
: this area, though. Anyone have pictures of the non-Kirby American covers on
: the 'net - a comparison would be fascinating.
   the later covers are better, i agree.  the woman was herenna!  (she had
   red hair, remember..)

liz, who sincerely advises all who can, to avoid chicken pox!

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From: sgcclmj@citec.oz.au (Liz Jones)
Subject: Re: Net influences on TP (was : Re: Things to come (or things which have at least not yet gone :))
Organization: CITEC
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:54:54 GMT

ssammy@cs.strath.ac.uk (Paul Sammy 4th Year iE/CES) writes:
:  Actually, this raises the question of whether reading the Net will influence
:  Terry's writing habits.
: 
:  I know that at the start of the group, Terry requested that all postings
:  with new ideas for books be tagged so he could avoid them, but I wonder 
:  if we have  effected Terry in other ways?
   
i've wondered that myself.
i have a feeling that it has... i seem to remember a peculiarity to the net
appearing in some of his text in one of the books, if it wasn't a smiley face
  it was something like it....  
it struck me at the time, because i thought "only someone who types a lot on
a computer to communicate would do that".
maybe it was the way something was indented?

the book was moving pictures, i think.
has anyone else noticed anything like this?

:  Most important of all, will the Net get a mention as part of the introduction
:  or blurb on his next novel? :-)
   
i've been waiting for it :)
it does mention that he tries to make computers do things that they were never
intended to do in some of the Author's Descriptions...

liz.
From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Lords and Ladies annotations
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:16:22 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
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I.M.Blackburn@newcastle.ac.uk (I.M. Blackburn) writes:

>Americans have Superman, we have Arthur.

Yeah, I remember. "This guy must be a king. Because he's the only one of
us who's not entirely covered with shit yet."
(Or something like that. I only know the dubbed version.)

"We dine all here in Camelot.
 We sing from the diaphragm a loooooooooooot."


Mayest the Cool Be with Thee!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
"Is there any tea on this ship?" (another Arthur)