HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: filipi@cebaf9.cebaf.gov (Adrian Thomas Filipi-Martin)
Subject: Icelandic  / Old English fonts
Keywords: fonts Old English
Reply-To: filipi@cebaf9.cebaf.gov (Adrian Thomas Filipi-Martin)
Organization: CEBAF (Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:49:25 GMT

--
Howdy Netlanders,

	I need to find a font which contains a couple of Old English characters
which have dropped out
of contemporary usage (but remain in Icelandic). In short, does anyone
know of a font that I could add to 
Framemaker with out too much trouble which contains tghe following
special characters:

	1. the ash ( it's the funky ae dipthong),
	2. the thorn (it looks like a 'p' with an ascender like a 'd') and
	3. the eth (it looks like an 'd' with a cross piece through the ascender).

Any and all information will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance,
Adrian
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Text formatters turn PostScript upside down -- why?
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:52:19 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Nov14.222532.8727@cs.brown.edu> jgm@cs.brown.edu (Jonathan Monsarrat) writes:
<Why do text formatters/converters like dvips (for TeX) and grops (for Troff)
<define everything upside down in PostScript?
<
<Just to be mean?

Upside down?  Nope.  I believe it has to do with printing the page from top
down, which is how the text is formatted.  But, PostScript's origin is the
lower-left corner.  So, groff moves it to the top-left corner, so that the
output can be top down.

OK, so it looks like the document should print upside-down, but it really
doesn't.  I'm not positive (James Clark will have to say for sure), but I
think that the fonts are re-encoded upside-down.  I couldn't find anyplace
else where it could be.  But a little test I did with my stuff seems to prove
out that theory.

So, in the end, everything comes out right-side up.

Is it mean to upside-down the upside-down?  While it is a necessary evil,
it definately keeps you on your PostScript toes.
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Subject: Re: Wanted s/w Simple Postscript Typesetting for Slides ...??
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:29:43 GMT

In <56232@dime.cs.umass.edu> shri@unreal.cs.umass.edu (H.Shrikumar) writes:
>   ***************
>   *   I wonder if there does not already exist a small and functional
>   * postscript generating program that can be used to typeset simple
>   * documents, or transparencies.  MS-DOS based please.
>   ***************

You can buy programs which are designed specifically for preparing
slides. BYTE magazine compared several such products sometime within
the last 18 months or so, but I can't remember which issue it was. One
good program (which I have used on a Mac, but it is also available for
PCs) is PowerPoint by Microsoft. If you can afford them, these programs
are a good investment. *Much* more suited to the task than a
wordprocessor.

>  PLease E-mail shri@legato.cs.umass.edu ...as I am not a subscriber here.

Posted and emailed.


Ciaran.
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: mkiteam@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Ed Japel)
Subject: Conference name placards
Summary: postscript program to print conference placards?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:41:27 GMT
Keywords: placards

Hi!  I have been trying to write a postscript program to print
a persons name on one long edge of a paper, and again along
the opposite edge, rotated so that when the paper is folded in the middle (lengthwise, the name will be readable from either side.  This should
not be as difficult as I am trying to make it, I have a bad case
of brain-block.   Thanks for any help!
 
Michael Moe
mkiteam@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: zisk@adobe.com (Stephen Zisk)
Subject: Re: Help !!! Postscript in lps20!
Followup-To: comp.lang.postscript
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:40:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.161707.6451@sci.ccny.cuny.edu>,
paul@sci.ccny.cuny.edu (Paul Chen) wrote:
> Some PS files (not all of them) can not be printed on our DEC
> lps20 printer, but these PS files can be printed on QMS and HP 
> laser printers without any problems. The system didn't give us
> any error messages...

First of all, are you using VMS, Ultrix, or UNIX to print? Each of these
environments provides different mechanisms for error handling. For example,
in Ultrix (and some Unices), you need to use -Mkeep to get errors reported
as mail messages.

As to the actual problem, here are four possibilities:

    1.) Wrong fonts: The LPS20 uses the "DEC 29" fonts, while the others
        you mentioned use the "standard 35"> If there is interest, I can
        post font lists for you.

    2.) Use of the cexec operator. The other printers are 68000-based and
        support the cexec operator, which may be used on Macintosh systems
        to download image- or font-smoothing code or a TrueType rasterizer.
        This code is 68000 assembler, and will obviously not work on the
        VAX-based LPS20, or any other non-68000 controller. It also would
        fail on Level 2 printers.

    3.) Reliance on device-specific operators. This unfortunately includes
        a small number of fairly basic operators, like "letter". Again, you
        might succeed on a number of printers, and fail on a bunch of
others.

    4.) Implementation limits. Depending on the environment, some of the
stacks
        and VM are used up by the Symbionts, Translators, etc. This could
lead
        to VMlimit, Stackoverflow, or other errors.

If you still need help, please post more error info, either by using an
error
handler or by capturing the error messages from the printer.

Regards!

Stephen Zisk (zisk@adobe.com)  Disclaimer: These are my personal opinions
and
Adobe Systems Incorporated     do not represent the views of Adobe Systems
Eastern Regional Office        Incorporated.
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From: dcook@garnet.berkeley.edu (Dan Cook)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: HELP! TranScript driver/filter software needed!
Date: 22 Nov 1992 21:05:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Hey, one of my coworkers decided to reformat the sparcstation
which is the printer server for our postscript printer and
erased the transcript software which allows us to print 
postscript... Does anyone know where/how to get hold of this
software?

I'm desparate, because I'm writing my dissertation and need
to get a printout in the next few days!!

-uncle dan
From: zisk@adobe.com (Stephen Zisk)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: TSR program to print text file to postscript printer ??
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:22:15 GMT
Followup-To: comp.lang.postscript
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <9232414.238@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, minh@lis.rch.unimelb.edu.au
(Minh Tran) wrote:
> 
> 
> 	Does any one know if there is a DOS TSR program which can print 
> 	text file to postscript printer ??
> 	Thanks

There is a commercial product called Printer Control Panel which can
automatically put your printer into PCL mode, which works fine *IF*
your printer has PCL. There are PD text formatters written in
PostScript which you can prepend to a file before printing it.

Could you amplify your need a bit? Regards!

Stephen Zisk (zisk@adobe.com)  Disclaimer: These are my personal views
Adobe Systems Incorporated     do not represent the position of
Eastern Regional Office        Adobe Systems Incorporated.
24 New England Exec. Park
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: jgm@cs.brown.edu (Jonathan Monsarrat)
Subject: Re: Is there interest in comp.sources.postscript?
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:05:16 GMT


> This would necessitate someone setting up an archive naming
> scheme, publishing indexes, etc.  There seems to be some
> precident for c.sources moderators having special accounts
> on uunet for dropping stuff in archives there.  Etcetera.
> 
> Any takers?

I'll volunteer. I have plenty of free time and access to a large ftp site.
Turn around time would not be a problem since my computer seems to be
a substitute for silly things like sleeping!

Time to talk specifics? Can I suggest that the people who are
interested in this send me an email and maybe we can write up a bitty
draft which could immediately of course be posted to
comp.lang.postscript for discussion. Can we write it in raw PostScript? :)

-Jon
%! Obfuscated PostScript /r{repeat<267F>ge{pop}if}def/dup{pop}def/cvx{show}def
/p{translate}def/y{-1 roll exec}def{<2020202020666F6E74>dup 0 4 y putinterval
cvx 0 y}dup dup/Times-Roman<2066696E64>3 y 100<7363616C65>4 y<2020736574>3 y
90 rotate 0 -612 p 1 1.8 scale 36 144 moveto <50532020202020207B484F4E4B7D2069
66> show gsave 220 130 p {0 0 moveto 29 58 29 -45 180 arc} cvx dup 0 y -1 1
scale 0 y gsave 0.6 setgray fill grestore 2 setlinewidth stroke showpage
From: mlevin@husc8.harvard.edu (Michael Levin)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: need advice on buying a printer to print postscript
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:48:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov16.144806.17503
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


     I am looking for the cheapest product that will let me print
post-script files. I work on DEC equipment, so I need a printer that
will interface to a VAX/VMS or an Ultrix system. I don't print very
much, so high volume printing is not a requirement. I don't need
laser-quality, although the quality has to be good; I most often print
technical papers with figures.  I have assembled ghost-script on my
machines, so if that is a part of the solution, that's ok too (as long
as it can be used to print out multi-page postscript files without too
much pain). So, what are my choices? What should I buy? I'm limited to
about $1000.00, but would like to spend as little as possible...
Please respond to mlevin@husc8.harvard.edu.

Mike Levin
From: stolte@irit.irit.fr (Nilo STOLTE)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: RE: Finding out the real page counter.
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:15:07 GMT
Organization: IRIT-UPS, Toulouse, France

Hi antoon!
You say:
...
>>problem. (I.e. a program that determines the number of pages in a any
>>given PS-file)

  Simply count the number of "%%Page:" that there is in your PostScript file. You
can write easily a program to do that...

Nilo.
From: tim@appenzell.cs.wisc.edu (Tim Theisen)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Who bakes the Best PostScript?
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:26:51 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

bkph@kauai.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn) writes:
> Talking of which, why are there still losts of programs around that
> understand DSC 2.0, but not DSC 3.0? Hasn't it been two or three years
> since the revision was made?  I am thinking particularly of page imposition
> software (can ANY read DSC 3.0?), PostScript previewers etc.

Ghostview (an X11 user interface to ghostscript) understands all versions
of the DSC.  In fact it will properly parse many non-conformities as well.
The only known deficiency is that although it does recognize the
"%%PageOrder: Special" comment, it does not give the document the special
treatment requested.  I plan to remedy this in the next release.

Ghostview-1.4.1 can be obtained via anonymous ftp from
ftp.cs.wisc.edu:/pub/X/ghostview-1.4.1.tar.Z.

...Tim

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From: hakimian@haney.eecs.wsu.edu (Karl Hakimian - staff)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Pacific Page Cartridge
Keywords: parallel Pacific Page
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:32:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Nov19.213241.22614
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

Looking through the manuals that came with our Pacific Page PostScript
cartridge for the LaserJet II, I have been unable to find out if I can get
a report from the printer on how many pages have been printed.

On the hp cartridge I send the command.

statusdict begin
pagecount =
^D

Does the Pacific Page cartridge respond to this? Does it send anything back?
I am trying to reed this on an hp from the parallel port, has anyone done this?

Thanks.

-- 
Karl Hakimian
hakimian@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: mslade@netcom.com (Michael Slade)
Subject: Re: Where to discuss Carousel?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:47:48 GMT

searsk@med.ge.com (Kevin D. Sears) writes:

>Will this be the news group to discuss Adobe's new Carousel project? Maybe
>another group fits better or a new one will start.

I think this would be a good group for Carousel discussions.

-- Michael Slade, Datavision Technologies
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Is there interest in comp.sources.postscript?
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:23:56 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <3986@ecicrl.ocunix.on.ca> clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis) writes:
<
<Second question: moderated?  It should be.  And no, I'm *not*
<volunteering.  All the other comp.sources sources groups are
<moderated.  This would help to alleviate fears people may have
<that people are going to pump out gazillions of bytes of pictures.
<
<This would necessitate someone setting up an archive naming
<scheme, publishing indexes, etc.  There seems to be some
<precident for c.sources moderators having special accounts
<on uunet for dropping stuff in archives there.  Etcetera.
<
<Any takers?

I'd do it, but I don't have internet/ftp access.  All I have is uucp access
to uunet and I know that my company is not going to pay $.50 a minute to
transfer files to/from uunet for this purpose.  Also, our internet mail
forwarding agent costs are paid for via Sun and they aren't going to want
to pay for all of the connect time to receive e-mailed sources.

Damn, I wish we had an internet connection.  :-(
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: hudson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (John Hudson)
Subject: object oriented editing from eps
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:44:11 GMT

Is there any application (commercial or not) for any common 
computer (Unix, Mac, PC) that will allow object oriented editing
of graphics in an eps format file?

Or, is there any way to get an object oriented file ( like an 
_object_ (as opposed to a bitmap) PICT on a Mac) from an eps file?

Adobe?
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Is there interest in comp.sources.postscript?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:10:54 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

I would LOVE to see somp.sources.postscript.
In fact, that's what I originally thought/hoped THIS newsgroup would be,
instead of a recurring cycle of "Do you have a filter to convert nnn to
PostScript" and "Do you have a filter to convert PostScript to nnn".


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Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: henry@trilithon.mpk.ca.us (Henry McGilton)
Subject: Re: Text formatters turn PostScript upside down -- why?
Organization: Trilithon Software
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:11:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.222532.8727@cs.brown.edu> jgm@cs.brown.edu (Jonathan  
Monsarrat) writes:

    *  Why do text formatters/converters like dvips (for TeX) and
    *  grops (for Troff) define everything upside down in PostScript?
    *  Just to be mean?
Speaking only from my knowledge of troff here.  First of all,
remember that both troff and TeX (even TeX 82) predate PostScript,
but that's probably irrelevant to the issue anyway.

The main reason stems from the nature of printed pages.  Pages of
text, whether Western or Asian, read from top to bottom.  Therefore
there's some sense in defining a coordinate system with (0, 0) at
the top left (for Western style text).  In troff, the first line
of the page is at the top of the page, loosely speaking, and the
y coordinate increases as you move down the page towards the bottom.
The  \v  escape sequence moves down for positive arguments and up
for negative arguments.  The  .sp  request moves down for positive
arguments and up for negative arguments, and so on.

This is opposite from PostScript's coordinate system which places
(0, 0) at the lower left corner of the page, like the regular first
quadrant of a Cartesian coordinate system we all learned about in
school.

To switch between the troff (and I assume TeX) coordinate system
and the PostScript coordinate system is simple -- translate up by
the height of the page and do a 1 -1 scale operation so the CTM is
``upside down'' from the standard PostScript coordinate system.
If you just stop there, of course, all your text will come out
upside down as well, so every time you make a font, you have to
use a [ S 0 0 -S 0 0 ] makefont to get the text coming out the
right way up.

	........  Henry

	Do not meddle in the affairs of troff,
	for she is subtle and quick to anger.
				-----  Bill Joy, circa 1980.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 18:51:12 MST
From: Ben Goren <AUBXG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: A rough attempt to define comp.sources.postscript formally

I'd vote yes for c.s.ps moderated, no for c.s.ps.d, and suggest that
anything that gets misposted either gets redirected to c.l.p or the
original sender, at the moderator's discretion.

It also might not be a bad idea for the moderator to have a copy of
the FAQ on hand to send to those who ask FAQs.

There should probably be a FAQ for the sources group which explains
how to access the archives; it'd also be nice if it gets reposted
whenever it expires. That'd likely cut down on the "could somebody
please repost that xyz2eps program" request.

And, on the content of the group: I wouldn't mind seeing an occasional
source that generates PostScript if it does something novel or especially
useful, but I see non-PS postings being the rare exception. And for the
acceptable file formats? Straight ASCII, whenever possible; shell
archives when not (as they're just ASCII files with some extra things that
make it easy for Unix to extract and assemble). If compression is
absolutely necessary, use the RLE built into PS Level 2, and let the printer
deal with the compression. Sure, it might be slow and not everybody has
a Level 2 device yet, but those with the high-speed connections who would
actually download such a large file will probably have access to something
with Level 2. As a bonus, anybody who posts such a file might want to
include something which writes the uncompressed file to the standard
output.

All for now.

b&
Newsgroups: comp.lang.postscript
From: thompson@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (William Thompson, code 682.1, x2040)
Subject: Re: open,/record - classification
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA/GSFC-Laboratory for Astronomy and Solar Physics
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:22:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.152127.17585@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de>, knipp@ipi.uni-hannover.de writes...
>Hello there,
> 
>	We're runnig Pv~Wave Cl. 4.0 under SunOs 4.1.2
> 
>	There are 2 questions :
> 
>	a) Has anybody ever tried to open a device (p.e. a streamer-tape)
>for record-wise reading/writing ?. It should work under VMS, but we must do it 
>under UNIX.
> 
>	b) Is there anybody who has programmed a land-use-classification in
>WAVE (or knows about an existing one) ?
> 
>	Thanks, KK

My experience is with IDL, not PV-WAVE, but this should still hold true.  You
can open a tape device in Unix and do I/O using READU and WRITEU.  At least I
was able to do this with an Exabyte tape drive on a Sun.  You can also spawn
out to the OS to send commands such as

	mt -f /dev/nrst1 fsf 1

or

	mt -f /dev/nrst1 rewind

As I recalled, I just opened the device with the command

	OPENU, UNIT, '/dev/nrst1'

I didn't use any keywords.

At one time I tried to write IDL procedures for Unix that imitated as closely
as possible the VMS tape utilities:  TAPRD, TAPWRT, etc.  I stopped working on
it, though, when I realized that there was no way to obtain the actual number
of bytes read in, as one could with the VMS routines.  One place that was
crucial for us was in reading FITS tapes--we needed to be able to tell if the
tape was written using 2880 byte or 28800 byte records.

Bill Thompson
Newsgroups: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
From: rlove@den.mmc.com (Robert B. Love 7-1842)
Subject: Scatter Plots
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:33:39 GMT

Is this the right place to ask about PV-Wave P&C?  Please give me advice
for making multiple plots.  I have a file of 25,000 points I want a scatter
plot of.  I also have a file of 600 points that show the nominal curve.

I can plot each one separately ok but I can't figure out how to combine 
them into one view.  What I want is the 25,000 points scattered about the
nominal curve, all on one graph.  How do combine these into one view.  If 
the answer is RTFM then please include a page or section number from the
P&C manual.

Thanx for all help.




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Newsgroups: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
From: knipp@ipi.uni-hannover.de (Kalle Knipp 4922)
Subject: open,/record - classification
Reply-To: knipp@ipi.uni-hannover.de
Organization: IPI, University of Hannover
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:21:27 GMT

Hello there,

	We're runnig Pv~Wave Cl. 4.0 under SunOs 4.1.2

	There are 2 questions :

	a) Has anybody ever tried to open a device (p.e. a streamer-tape)
for record-wise reading/writing ?. It should work under VMS, but we must do it 
under UNIX.

	b) Is there anybody who has programmed a land-use-classification in
WAVE (or knows about an existing one) ?

	Thanks, KK
Newsgroups: comp.lang.idl-pvwave
From: benell@spot.Colorado.EDU (Kirk D. Benell)
Subject: landscape problem with IDL QMS driver
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:43:34 GMT

I've run into a problem with the QMS driver for the VMS version of IDL.
When I use the /LANDSCAPE keywork with the device command, the plot is 
resized for a landscape plot, but it is not rotated 90 degrees. This results
in a "large" portrait plot that is missing half of the output data. Does 
anyone know how to fix this?? 

-K