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From: acadams@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Arthur C. Adams)
Subject: Re: MARVEL: How I'd Reform It
Reply-To: acadams@aplcen (Arthur C. Adams)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: world 
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 12:06:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.063854.23535@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
>>
>>   You wouldn't happen to be THE Art Adams that illustrates for Marvel and DC
>>occasionally?
>>
>If he were THE Art Adams he'd only post articles at a rate of 1 or 2 a year!

I've been waiting for someone to ask this. You were the second, while Dave 
Sim, yes, that Dave Sim, askied it first in the UseNet interview.

Yes, I am THE Art Adams, just not the one who draws very well. 

This isn't intended as a flame, but it gets old hearing THE Art Adams. I've
got as much claim to the name as he does. Its a semantic thing.
-- 
The world is not analog. The world is digital, just
with an incredible number of bits.
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Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 21:07:09 CDT
From: <UD137927@NDSUVM1.BITNET> (David R. Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: MUTANT: More Judas Stuff -- Rogue?

Yep. Rogue turns traitor just because she *used* to be a villain. Boy, you
know, if this was any company but Marvel I'd be worried that that plot would
be too silly to worry about. Hnnnf. Besides, considering how toned down her
powers have become nowadays (I remember the time she could take out Thor in
two panels -- now, cyborgs trash her in one) the chances that she could take
out *any* of the X-various is basically nil.

However, having her absorb Madrox's multiplying power, and *then* going out
in force would be a good way to start it out smart.

BTW, I'm surprised that everyone's taking this Judas thing so seriously.
I mean, the only proof we have is one video recording, which Bishop just
accepted as true. I mean, hate to say it, folks, but dubbing certainly
exists in the Marvel world as well. Nothing like a little bit of creative
filmmaking to make the mutants worry needlessly.

"With great power comes great responsibility." --Spider-Man
"That's bullshit." -- Richard Darwin
                        --Richard Darwin #1

>>>>>  CTHULHU IN '92! -- Why vote for the LESSER evil?  <<<<<
In related news:  George Bush is the Anti-Kate. Details at 11.
David Henry/Rogue Fan Club/Chaos Anonymous (ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet)
                                          (ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu)
What was your question? --K //Thanks... for the memories. -- Rogue
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From: ksb@hal2000.bellcore.com (Ken Berczik)
Subject: Maus Awarded Special Pulitzer
Reply-To: ksb@hal2000.bellcore.com (Ken Berczik)
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 11:53:47 GMT

I just read in the paper that Art Spiegelman was awarded a special Pulitzer for _Maus_. I just wanted to say congratulations to Mr. Spiegelman. (_Maus_ was also the subject of a rather lengthy review in the April 6 issue of the _New Yorker_.)

On that note, The _Comics Buyers' Guide_ mentioned a few issues ago that _Maus_ had been nominated for the National Book Critics Circle Award for Biography/Autobiography and that the award was to be announced around March 18. I was wondering if it won. I'm not sure how much lead time the _CBG_ needs, but I would imagine that if it had won, something would have appeared in the _CBG_ or on the net by now
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Marvel's overused lines
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:57:16 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <6APR199218590717@rigel.tamu.edu> rjc2870@rigel.tamu.edu (CLAYCOMB, RICHARD JAMES) writes:
>In article <92095.224213RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu>, RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu writes...
>>characters as if they all talked liked Wolverine i.e "We take care of our
>>own".  Man, if I read that damn line again, I'll rip that page out and eat
>>it. 
>
>Tell me about it.  The same old lines are starting to annoy me.
>example-"The psychic knife!  The totality of my psychic powers!"
>       -"The psychic knife!  The focus of my psychic powers!  Against it you are
>         helpless."
>       -"The psychic knife!  The focused totality of my psychic powers."
>
>Some new lines for the whole team would be nice.  I could handle it. :)   

How about this overused line: "I'm the best there is at what I do, and what I
do best isn't very nice.  I have an adamantium-laced skeleton and claws and a
mutant healing factor..."  This one's used more often than the psychic knife
bit.
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From: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Thomas Galloway)
Subject: DC: GLC: Editorial Plans for '92
Reply-To: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Thomas Galloway)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 23:14:30 GMT

No spoilers save for some guest stars, crossovers, and a minor change in
Guy's apparel.

DARKSTARS is about the member of a rival intergalactic police force to the
Green Lantern Corps who is assigned to Earth. Writing by Michael Jan Friedman,
Larry Stroman will pencil #1-3 and Travis Charest takes over from #4 on. It's
an ongoing series starting in September.

GANTHER'S TALE is the Larry Niven GLC "bible", as adapted and drawn by John
Byrne. A 64 page one-shot, it's due in October and tells the history of the
Guardians and the GLC.

GREEN LANTERN #31-2 and FLASH #69-70 crossover, and will guest star Detective
Chimp and Rex, The Wonder Dog. There's also a GL/L.E.G.I.O.N.  crossover
planned to hassle out who has jurisdiction where. GL will also go bi-weekly
for three months. Arisia will be returning to the book. May will see the
release of a trade pb reprint of Green Lantern/Green Arrow #76-82, the classic
O'Neil/Adams stories.

GREEN LANTERN CORPS QUARTERLY will have regular features of Alan Scott by
Stern and Dusty Abell and G'Nort by Scott Lobdell and Joe Staton. Alternating
issues will have "Whatever Happened To..." about GLs we've seen before, with
the first issue being Arisia, and "The History of Sector 2814", showing
different GL's in Earth's sector through history. Two other stories in each
issue will show previously unseen GLs.

GUY GARDNER gets his own ongoing series in August. In a fashion statement, he
abandons his current moonboots for cowboy boots.

"This must be the Red Sox' year. Statistics of the last 75 years prove that
the Sox always win the World Series one year after a Russian revolution."
  --Dan Shaughnessy
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: INDY Dave Sim and Misspent Youths
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 23:38:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.141850.301@cnsvax.uwec.edu> breitzsp@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Scotty B at UWEC) writes:
>> Pat -- In #156 you mention that _Misspent Youth_ is on your list of 
>> top ten comics.
>
>Can you have any higher praise than that?  If you haven't picked up this
>series, only 5 issues so it won't take a lot of funds.  Get it now!
>
>Scotty B
>
>P.S. Has anybody out there picked Misspent Youths up?

Aye.  Great series, definitely in my top ten.  I'd probably shunt it into my
top five, but it's only a five-issue series (for no reason other than the
sloth of the creator).  Really mondo excellent stuff.

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling, unabridged version
University of Victoria Creative Writing Department
Opinions Disassociated

	"First of all, I don't pee through my nipples."
				- Scott Thompson, Kid in the Hall
-------
From: vehaag@crocus.waterloo.edu (Viktor Haag)
Subject: Re: Marvel's overused lines
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:51:37 GMT

In article <92099.085011U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>Well, I always went for the psyche-out approach in terms of power usage.
>One of my favorite characters that I've created (the Luminator, mentioned
>previously) always like doing brain scramble maneuvers whenever he's fighting
>some foe, merely because his powers are so versatile (light control and
>manifested latent psionics).
>
>"Aha!  I shall simply teleport behind you and trash your matterperion
>machine while you're still reacting to my disappearance!" Luminator.
>"Wrong!" Destructo.  Destructo whirls, sees an image of the Luminator over
>his matter machine and fires his most powerful energy blast, totalling the
>machine.  He then is tapped on the shoulder.
>"Uh, excuse me Vince, but since when have I ever demonstrated teleportation?"
>"Awwwwww crud."
>POW

Hmmmm, that sounds suspiciously like a certain villain group famous in this
area who call themselves "Men who take Double Damage from Electrical Attacks."


"Petty Hero -- your puny blasts cannot hurt us ..."
"Hush, OhmSucker, we must not let these do-gooders know that we are the ...
	MEN WHO TAKE DOUBLE DAMAGE FROM ELECTRICAL ATTACKS"
"Zounds .. your're right AmpGobbler ... please, I beg of you Voltron, do not
hit me with another of your VoltBeams ... I do not think I can survive another."
(all this time OhmSucker and AmpGobbler -- not their real names -- are sidling
closer and closer to the city's main transformer bus ...)



-- 
Viktor Haag 
		            |  "We are not thugs.  We are not fanatics.
vehaag@crocus.uwaterloo.ca  |   We are vitamin supplements to justice."   
viktor@watdcs.uwaterloo.ca  |				: a Selector
From: wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: X-Force
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:40:24 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Originator: wombat@coke.eng.umd.edu

In article <visser.702974315@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
>	For those who hate x-force, the latest issue seems to suggest
>that most of Liefeld's "plots" (if they qualify as that) are going to
>be wrapped up fairly quickly.  They have gideon intending to kill sunspot.
>They have strife unmasked in front of weapon x.  They explain all the
>highlander/highlord garbage in detail.  I would guess that someone with
>some brains made the right decision and is attempting to mop up liefelds
>mess quickly.  They also brought back rictor I think.
>
>	The details above were taken from skimming the book in the store.
>they may/may not be 100% right.
>
>	The other news I heard recently is that the long-dreaded Cable 
>mini-series has been scaled back to two issues.
>
>	Its still not very good by any means, but it is better than anything
>Liefeld managed in the past year (which is not saying much).

Got news for you.  Liefield plotted this one and he's plotting X-Force until
fourteen, I believe.  So all that wrapping up is being done by him. Personally,
it was nice to see the Sam I remember from Claremont New Mutants again, what
with his worrying about what to tell his mom.  That's Sam.

>
> 


-- 
Jose Gonzalez
                       Spock- "In your own way, you are as stubborn as another
                               captain of the Enterprise I once knew."
                       Picard-"Then I'm in good company, sir."  
Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics:13429 rec.arts.tv:9737
From: wchong@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU (William Chong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Flash TV show
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:01:11 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business


	
	Remember the Flash television show from last year ..... well does
anyone have tapes of every episode?  I'd be interested in obtaining a complete
set of it.  

	Email me wchong@sales.stern.nyu.edu


							Will
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)
Subject: Re: CEREBUS: Thoughts on the third aardvark
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:36:06 GMT

In article <32415@darkstar.ucsc.edu> elder@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Elder
Dan) writes:
>*some* kind of rampant doppelgangerism

doppelgangrene?

-David
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: WILD CARDS
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:45:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.+vpjt5n
Organization: Living in a satellite fantasy, waiting for the night to end.

> George R. R. Martin said that Disney is discussing the possibility of
> doing a Wild Cards movie.  According to the latest issue of Comics
> Scene, Martin is set to script and Michael Engelberg is connected to the
> project as the producer. 

In fact, George Martin and Melinda Snodgrass are working on the
screenplay even as we speak.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: Marvel's overused lines
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:17:17 GMT

"I am power incarnate!"
--
This is a newer version of the memetic .signature infection.  Now that's an
idea.  Copy it into your .signature today!

Ken Arromdee (UUCP: ....!jhunix!arromdee; BITNET: arromdee@jhuvm;
     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
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From: ecaxron@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Graham)
Subject: Results of Return of Ho'od Win [tm]
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 17 Apr 1992 09:34 EST  

Here are the voters in the latest edition of Ho'od Win [tm]:

MPN100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz
dusek@marble.rtsg.mot.com
jcowling@nero.UVic.CA
morrow@fnal.fnal.gov
goldfarb@ocf.Berkeley.EDU
mccarter@freezer.cns.udel.edu
SMB147@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
and myself - a decent voter turnout.

Tank Girl & tank vs. Leona Ozaki & Bonaparte
Tank Girl in a squash that leaves the audience dead as well, 3-0.

Dr. Manhattan vs. Dr. Solar, Man of the Atom
Dr. Manhattan in a huge squash, 7-1.  Solar expends all of his energy
before Manhattan even notices that he's been under attack.

Mandrake the Magician vs. Abra Kadabra
Mandrake holds on, 3-2.  The Flash takes Kadabra away and Mandrake goes
off to enjoy a brewski with Flash Gordon, the Phantom, and Lothar ;-).

Blue Beetle (Ted Kord) vs. Silver Scarab
Kord's being out of shape and having had his ribs kicked in by Guy Gardner
cause the match to go an extra few rounds, but Scarab is unable to prevail,
final score 4-3.

Blackhawk vs. Enemy Ace
Hans von Hammer grounds Blackhawk and the entire Blackhawk Express, 5-0.

Dr. Tachyon vs. The Thinker II
"Oh, Taaaaaaaachy, hold this gun in your mouth please."  Carmichael had 
practiced this line for a week prior to the match, but he was unprepared
for the combination of peach, fire-engine red, royal purple and lemon
yellow worn by his combatant.  Tachyon burns out Carmichael's chips and
knocks him over with the feather in the brim of his hat after a furious
mind-meld, 4-2.

In the Main Event: She-Hulk vs. Power Girl
You can't say enough about the advantage of an aerial attack, everything
else being equal.  But Power Girl also brings to the match the advantages
of a back that defies physics and a caffeine high from diet cola.  Power
Girl with the win, 6-3.

I wonder if someone like Comic Shop News (for instance) has ever considered
having a regular column where a match is proposed between characters, like
we do with Ho'od Win [tm], and have the readers decide how the match is 
carried out and, well, ho'od win?  I can see the publication make a call
for comments on a certain matchup, and summarize a couple months later 
(which is about how long it takes me to get around to summarizing now ;-)).

Comments?

RG
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From: c60a-dy@amazon.Berkeley.EDU (Mikey likes it)
Subject: Re: Powerpax
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 04:36:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.163027.4479@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa719@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stan M. Mangrum) writes:
>
>Someone mentioned earlier that they believe the storyline with
>Powerpax takes place about ten years in the future. I disagree.
>I don't know if anyone has mentioned or even noticed this but
>here goes. Take a careful look at Sam. His hair is going grey
>on the sides. This by no means gives us a definate clue to
>his age seeing as to how the grey hair could be the result of 
>all the tramatic experiences he's been through. But I do believe
>the grey hair is meant to suggest that Sam is getting up there
>in age. Therefore, its is very likely that Powerpax (Francine
>Power) is the daughter of one of the Power kids. Presumably
>Alex or Jack's daughter. But not necessarily.
>
  I agree.  In the story, Sam says it was ten years from the time
when they helped Arize defeat MojoV.  We are still waiting until
this summer for the death of the first Mojo, and I seriously doubt
that the next four will be run through in the next year or so.
This seems to give more credit to the idea that this may be a daughter
of one of the Power Pack, seeing as how maybe another 10-20 years
could be added on to the already 10 years into the future that would
be needed to kill all of the Mojos' until Shatterstar takes their
place.

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From: dream@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Michael P. Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: X-Man Traitor
Summary: IMHO, there is a totally different traitor..not gambit or
	 the gun slinging future-reject....
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:45:54 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

> >
> Bishop never DID mow down civilians in his own time.  As he said
> himself, in his time there were never any civilians around or any
> time they saw mutants around, they bailed.  That is why he just lets
> his guns blaze at anything in site.  Also, everything was run down in
> his time so he didn't have to worry about property.
> In that very issue which showed his "destructive" side, when Bishop 
> almost killed some of the bystanders, he began to realize that his methods
> were too X-treme for this time.

Yea, but it doesn't mean that he was going to stop using them.  After all
he never had to worry about it before and its hard to teach an old 
mutant hunter new tricks.  (the only exception to this might be rachel 
summers but i always hated her anyway.)
> 
> >	If it's not Bishop, it won't be an X-Man at all, but either

> Maybe, Gambit is the traitor.  He thought that the X-men were too wimpy,

Sure but it seems like his infatuation with fair Rogue has cooled his heels
a bit...

I think that it was Stryfe who betrayed the X-men.  Now before i get flamed 
into oblivion, read on.  Stryfe is an exact physical duplicate of Cable
(ok, i read it on the x-man card) so it would be easy for him to step 
in and betray the X-men as his twin, Cable.  Or maybe they'll make 
Cable and Stryfe some sort of psychic twins that can control each other
or some stupid sh*t like that.  
It's really hard to tell considering they keep switching writers on us.

Sort of getting annoyed at the X-Clan as a whole.  

Well, until the Sandman's of DC and marvel get together and play 
in the Sand box together....

Make mine....er...whatever

Mike Simon
From: douga@yang.earlham.edu (Doug Atkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Nightwing and Starfire (Spoilers)
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:36:26 GMT
Organization: The Lion of Serrea

In article <gspjgc_@lynx.unm.edu>, vjmurphy@carina.unm.edu (Phred T. Platypus) writes:
> 
> 
>     Spoilers Ho:
> 
> 
> 
>     I just heard some news on the Comics-L list about Nightwing
>  and Starfire.  Apparently, DC is planning on marrying these two
>  off.  All I can say is:
> 
>   NONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONONO!
> 
>    This is an incredibly STUPID idea.  It will limit both characters
>  massively.  Also, it will prematurely end the Nightwing/Starfire/
>  Mirage triangle.  Needless to say, I am pissed.
> 
	End the triangle?  Is Mirage just going to shrivel up and go away 
if they get married?  Uh-uh.  The triangle doesn't cease to be a triangle 
just because one person in it doesn't stand a chance.
			--Doug
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From: fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro)
Subject: Re: Bob Newhart to portray comic creator
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:44:55 GMT

jcastle@ac.dal.ca writes:

>In article <1992Apr7.170057.529@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway) writes:
>> According to today's Boston Globe, Bob Newhart will be doing a
>> sitcom for CBS next season in which he'll portray the creator
>> of a comic book hero called "Mad Dog". Look for a name change
>> when Marvel's lawyers realize they have a character named Mad
>> Dog, namely Patsy Walker's ex-husband most recently seen
>> in SHIELD.

>	I don't think they'll change the name,  DC also
>has a character called Mad Dog, who was a vigilante who
>went undercover and (I believe) took orders from a
>couple of organizer/insiders.  He appeared in
>Action Comics Weekly and got his own mini-series

Nope.  That was *Wild* Dog.

I still doubt that Marvel will get cranky -- it's not like he was a
major character or anything.  (In fact, he was a total loser...)

>	Is there an independent publication with a
>hero (or villain) called Mad Dog?

Quite possible.

>Yours Sincerly, (correct me if I'm wrong)

I did.  =)
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 But then, I've always liked science fiction."
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