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From: Kevin_Fong@rand.org (Kevin Fong)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: What would you like to see on a Beach Boys box set?
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:55:27 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.cd

According to the latest ICE:
Capitol Records is thinking about putting out a Beach Boys box set sometime
next year, and has asked David Leaf (who wrote the liner notes for the
recent Capitol reissues) to do some preliminary work. 

"Leaf himself would appreciate input from fans as to what they feel would
be essential to make the box 'a great artistic portrait of the group.' Leaf
is open to all ideas; fans are invited to send in a list of just a few
essential tracks, or, if they have time, a repertoire list that would fill
five 75-minute CDs. Leaf emphasizes that this is not a Brian Wilson box
set, so outside Wilson productions or songs written for others are not
eligible. 

"Leaf would appreciate input by the first of the year, if possible, or by
mid-January at the latest. Write to him at P.O. Box 1404, Santa Monica, CA
90406."

The article doesn't say whether the lists should be limited to the Beach
Boys' Capitol work.
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Kevin Fong          Kevin_Fong@rand.org
Los Angeles, CA
"Ed, are you hallucinating?" "Yes, but not right now."
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From: news@newcastle.ac.uk (NEWS system)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.audio
Subject: Re: MiniDiscs -- What Are They?
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:34:46 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.

In article <1geu8sINN1sc@network.ucsd.edu>, mbk@hamilton (Matt Kennel) writes:
>narpet@cs.mcgill.ca (Greg WARD) writes:
>: The technology itself isn't particularly amazing -- monstrous-capacity
>: magneto-optical drives and discs have been available for computers for
>: some time now.  What Sony has done is to 1) miniaturize the disc (I
>: *believe* computer MO discs are usually 5" or 12", just like CD's
>: or LD's) and package it into a (presumably) convenient form, 2) make
>: the hardware more affordable, and 3) compress the data.
>: 
>: I really don't know how much "amazing new technology" is required; Sony
>: just put it all together and will probably make a bundle.
From: n0an7@turing.newcastle.ac.uk (H.S. Doyle)
>
>The "amazing new technology" is in the materials & recording system for the
>magneto-optical substrate, in order to make a blank cost $10 (we hope)
>instead of $100.
>
>This necessitates a complete overhaul in the rest of the technology.
>
>: 	Greg Ward (narpet@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca)
>
Computer optical disks are actually 3.5" in size (for 128MB) and look just like 
magnetic 3.5" floppies except they're a bit thicker.

Harry.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Annie Haslam
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:21:39 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

The winter AB-CD flyer lists a new Japanese title from Annie Haslam.
It's called "Moonlight Shadow", which is very suspicious since that is
a song from her Epic solo album a couple of years ago. I called, and
they said it hadn't come in yet so it was impossible to guess what's on it.
I've seen Japanese copies of the Epic album floating around for months, so
I suspect this is something else. Anyone know?

-- 
_______________________________Mike Schuster________________________________
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The Portal (R) System: schuster@shell.portal.com | MCI Mail,GEnie: MSCHUSTER
From: kablooey@west.darkside.com (Kablooey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Oops; BMG Phone Number
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:37:12 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

Oops, I guess I chose the wrong command and posted instead of replied,
and now because this is waffle and not unix, I can't cancel. Oh well,
I'll try to be useful.

My computer's phone book says that BMG's phone number is (317) 542-0414.
That's about two years old; so I don't know whether it's still valid, but 
I guess it's worth a shot.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Peter Gabriel :US
From: nate@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Nathan Brazil)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 00:43:22 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

Hi all, do any of you own P.Gabriel's latest cd US ? Would you recomend 
it?
I enjoyed his SHAKING THE TREE, is his recent work similar ?
Cheers,Nate.

--
nate@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Nathan Brazil)
The BBS Works -- +64 9 630 7739 NZL	New Zealand's Oldest BBS
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: monitn@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Nicholas Monitto)
Subject: Re: LED ZEPPELIN BOX?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:02:59 GMT

rdw@cmn15.Stanford.EDU (Roy Waldspurger) writes:

>		
>Does someone have a list of tunes on the old Led Zeppelin (4 CD) boxed set  
>(not the newer 3 CD set with the interview disc)?  What is the difference  
>in sound quality between the two collections?

ONE:
Whole Lotta Love
Heartbreaker
Communication Breakdown
Babe I'm Gonna Leave You
What is and What Should Never Be
Thank You
I Can't Quit You Baby
Dazed and Confused
Your Time is Gonna Come
Ramble On
Travelling Riverside Blues
Friends
Celebration Day
Hey Hey What Can I Do
White Summer/Black Mountain Side

TWO:
Black Dog
Over the Hills and Far Away
Immigrant Song
The Battle of Evermore
Bron-Y-Aur Stomp
Tangerine
Going to California
Since I've Been Loving You
D'Yer Maker
Gallows Pole
Custard Pie
Misty Mountain Hop
Rock and Roll
The Rain Song
Stairway to Heaven

THREE:
Kashmir
Trampled Under Foot
**For Your Life**
No Quarter
Dancing Days
When the Levee Breaks
Achilles Last Stand
The Song Remains the Same
Ten Years Gone
In My Time of Dying

FOUR:
In the Evening
Candy Store Rock
The Ocean
Ozone Baby
Houses of the Holy
Wearing and Tearing
Poor Tom
Nobody's Fault But Mine
Fool in the Rain
In the Light
The Wanton Song
Moby Dick/Bonzo's Montreaux
I'm Gonna Crawl
All My Love

>If not, does someone at least know if the song "For Your Life" from  
>Presence is on the first collection?

"For Your Life" is track 3 on disc 3...

Nick
monitn@rpi.edu

>	
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: _Straight Up_ by Badfinger
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:44:01 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <7940068@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mike-b@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Michael Bishop) writes:
>Does anyone know if Badfinger's album _Straight Up_ is available on CD yet?

Only as a bootleg. The official release is coming up soon.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: GERRY_KENDAL@ACT.EDUC.UALBERTA.CA (Gerry Kendal)
Subject: Re: Noteworthy
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: University of Alberta, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:33:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.185028.3323@ntg.com>, dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt)
wrote: 
   [re: Noteworthy on-line catalogue]
> The largest amount of on-line time involved is that of downloading the
> catalog changes... Noteworthy recommends doing this every week or two.
> The change-files are zipped and downloaded using YMODEM, and are
> decompressed and applied to your PC's database after the modem hangs up.
> 
> The changes seem to run on the rough order of 20-40k bytes of
> compressed data per month - maybe 2 minutes/week of download at 2400
> bps, and much less at 9600 bps (which Noteworthy does support).
> 
Given the information is basically "public domain", does anyone out there
have the where-with-all to post it to an ftp site? 
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu (Sean Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Noteworthy CDs
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:50:04 GMT

bkrram@cs.tamu.edu (Raghuram K Bindignavle) writes:



>I just received a brochure from NoteWorthy. before odreing any by mail order,
>I would like to know how the quality of their CDs are.

>Pl. mail bkrram@cs.tamu.edu with u'r comments


	They are the same as any cd you would by in a store.

			--Sean Kennedy
			  kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: Jarrod.Miller@launchpad.unc.edu (Jarrod Miller)
Subject: Re: Goldmine & Bootlegs...
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:32:58 GMT

In article <Bz9n3I.GM6@rice.edu> starke@cs.rice.edu (Sean Starke) writes:
>
>  His concern, and a rec.music.cd can o' worms, is the 
>legality of purchasing said material either from domestic
>or foreign companies.
>
>  Does anyone know the scoop on this?  Has anyone has any problems
>with this?

Well, in some countries, like Germany and Italy, some bootlegs are
legal.  So Goldmine would accept their advertising.  But Goldmine can't
do anything if I buy something from Germany which is illegal here in the
states.  

Personally, I don't know what the hell's going on.  But I don't mind
them advertising bootlegs.  That's a part of the reason I buy the mag. 
And Goldmine knows that they have nothing to lose by publishing the
articles.  The government won't come down on Goldmine, just the bootleg
sellers.

-jarrod

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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Box Set Mania
Keywords: box set, floyd, john
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:52:06 GMT

mshep@alfred.carleton.ca (Mark Shepherd) writes:

>What does anyone think of the Elton John set, "To
>Be Continued", released a while back? I personally
>didn't like it, and hoped to one day pick up a
>more basic collection of hits on CD.  I found a
>nicely put together set, "The Very Best of EJ",
>which for me fulfills this need.  As a double-CD
>set, it doesn't really count as a box, but at least
>I don't have to put up with silly puzzle-jewel case
>designs.  Is there a proper name for these double
>CD things? Compilations, maybe?

PolyGram calls theirs "Mini-boxes".

As for "To Be Continued...", it is the 10th most popular boxed set in the USA
(See my earlier post) even though it was only available in the states from
Fall 1990 to Spring 1992.  It is now out of domestic production.

As one of EJ's biggest fans, I had mixed feelings on the set, at least from 
my perspective.  It was an overall thorough review of EJ's career for 
an average listener, yet I dislike EJ Hits albums because they don't 
give a good indication of his early and IMHO best work, though I like his 
stuff during the past three years as well.  The interview booklet that
came with the boxed set was interesting but MCA did a horrendous job on
the discography which has several inaccuracies.  

Of course with the "To Be Continued..." boxed set off the market in the
States, I would suggest the following as a replacement of sorts:

Buy:    Hits I & Hits II on Polydor; MCA's new Hits 1976-85; the mini-box
"Rare Masters", "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road", and "Elton John".  This is
a close approximation of the contents of the album, although MCA should
release a "Rare Masters '76-'93" collection to round things out.

While "To Be Continued..." was really good for the casual fan, as a die-hard
fan, I would have liked to seen a five disc set with more "Tumbleweeed"
and "Captain Fanstastic" as well as all three cuts with John Lennon
on 11/28/74.  I of course prefer to hear all his songs in album context though,
so my assumption is based on the premise that boxed sets are great to some.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: FYI: The Compact Disc Connection service
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:43:35 GMT

corwin@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (carl.w.smedberg) writes:
>Just a friendly warning if you place an order from CDC. I placed
>an order 13 days ago and haven't see anything yet. I'd have
>to say that I'm dissapointed. It shouldn't take more than a
>week to ship a package via UPS ground from the west coast to 
>the Illinois, let alone 5 more days to pick 5 CDs off the shelf
>and package them! Maybe I've been spoiled by the overnight delivery
>provided by MACconnection. Even if I wanted 2nd day air, they
>still indicated it could take a week to pack the order!

They pretty clearly state online what their shipping times are. There's
a more detailed part that tells you how long for shipping to specific
parts of the country - I think for your area they claim 1.5 weeks shipping
and they only count working days. Here's part of what they say online:

>Delivery of orders requires approximately 1 work week + shipping
>time (1-2.5 weeks depending on location.) 
 
So, your 13 days is probably 2 weeks for them and the order probably falls
within the period they told you to expect. You really don't have much reason
to gripe until it's been another week or so - and if you consider that this
is the week before X-Mas, UPS is probably much SLOWER than usual and as
much or more so to blame than CDC. 

The only problem I see is that the delivery doesn't meet your expectations, 
and your expectations don't meet what they told you to expect online. It's
a little rude of you to gripe and publicly slander them over something
you neglected to read or understand.  

FYI, the 5 days to pull an order reflects the fact that their online lists
are catalogs of what their distributer carries. So your order is either
drop shipped from their distributer or shipped to them and then shipped to 
you. That's why it takes up to 5 days to "pull" your order. If the delivery 
time isn't fast enough for you, shop elsewhere. If they don't deliver in
the time they promised then start bitching. Even then the delay may
be due to UPS and not CDC. 

P.S. I've got no affiliation with CDC and I've never ordered from them. I
have found their online catalog very interesting though...  

 - Malcolm 
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203)
Subject: Re: FYI: The Compact Disc Connection service
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:38:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.225021.4140@walter.bellcore.com> sek@cc.bellcore.com (Spencer Kantor) writes:
>
>All in all be patient.  Over the long haul I think you'll find CDC to
>be a reliable, dependable mail-order company.
>

I am new here. Can anyone compare CDC with BMG or Columbia? Any pros and
cons? Thanks in advance.

H.Y.

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu (dave)
Subject: Re: What would you like to see on a Beach Boys box set?
Organization: elsewhere
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:00:48 GMT

In article <Kevin_Fong-151292084827@mac-1st-15.rand.org> Kevin_Fong@rand.org (Kevin Fong) writes:
>According to the latest ICE:
>Capitol Records is thinking about putting out a Beach Boys box set sometime
>next year, and has asked David Leaf (who wrote the liner notes for the
>recent Capitol reissues) to do some preliminary work. 
cool!

>"Leaf himself would appreciate input from fans as to what they feel would
>be essential to make the box 'a great artistic portrait of the group.' Leaf
>is open to all ideas; fans are invited to send in a list of just a few
>essential tracks, or, if they have time, a repertoire list that would fill
>five 75-minute CDs. Leaf emphasizes that this is not a Brian Wilson box
>set, so outside Wilson productions or songs written for others are not
>eligible. 
wow!  a record company that actually wants to hear what we think!  it's
kinda ironic, IMHO, that capitol has been doing such a wonderful job
on re-issuing the beach boys' catalog (the two-fer discs, all remastered,
with the bonus tracks and mondo liner notes), when they had originally
basically screwed the group over when the boys were still on the label
in the sixties ...

as for what i'd like to see on a box set: any and all material they
can gather from the aborted _smile_ sessions from 1966-1967.  but i'm
probably just dreaming on this one ...

-- 
( dave prokopy - prokopy@sage.cc.purdue.edu or prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu    )
( "this is my mistake - let me make it good."                               )
(  -r.e.m., "world leader pretend"                                          ) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: georgen@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (G. Ng)
Subject: Re: Duff CD's
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:01:17 GMT

In article <1gab8dINN3hq@oak25.doc.ic.ac.uk> sk2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Simon Kinsella) writes:
>I was rather alarmed a couple of weeks ago to find a significant proportion
>of my CD collection (~30-50%) had faults on the playing surface; these
>irregularities are present in the form of small pin prick sized holes in
>the aluminium surface, which just let light straight through!  
>
>To check your discs, hold the cd up to a spot light (not to close!) and look 
>carefully for specks of light coming through the surface.  Some discs are 
>completley free of holes, while others can be littered with them!  (Obviously
>you can't tell if the disc has an all-over print on the top surface)

In addition, a CD techician at my local audio store said that you could also
check for signs of 'thin aluminum coating' on the disc or at certain
'blotchy areas' of the CD using the above mentioned technique.
If you're able to see through to the some of the
labeling on the the disc (or parts of the disc), it could affect the
ability of the disc to reflect the laser beam, and thus cause sensitive
CD players to mistrack.  (Manufacturers skimping on aluminum coating...
...what next?!...)

Before I learned this, I thought almost all CDs were made with similar
quality.  Turns out that a many CDs have these manufacturing problems.
I'm thankful that most CD players have good error correction circuitry!

Nowadays, I notice more and more CDs with "pictures" on the surface -
it just makes distinguishing whether or not the CD is of good quality more
difficult.  (because the light from a lamp won't penetrate through the
paint on the surface as easily as regular, unpainted CDs)

>Main offenders appear to be :  EMI, Polydor/Polyram.  Can anybody confirm 

I noticed that most imports from Germany and Japan are fairly well made,
whereas stuff from Columbia and other US/Canada companies have pinholes and
"Al-deficiency" on some of their CDs.

>this phenomenon and list other labels that seem to be prone. How significant
>do you think this is in terms of sound quality?

What the techie told me was that sound quality remains the same - it's all
digital.  The problems is that it might skip at points where there are
significantly large pinholes, or thin aluminum/other metal coating.

>PS While checking my collection, I noticed the blue 'all-over' print on
>Dire Straits 'On Every Street' was peeling off at the edges. Suffice to say
...
If you bought the CD recently and still have the receipt, see if you can
trade it in for a new one.  With the paint peeling off, the metal coating
could also be coming off too.
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: fred@wang.com (fred rozakis tower iii 9677002)
Subject: Wanted: these metal CD's:
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:43:12 GMT

Looking for the following used CDs in excellent condition:

Metallica - Ride the Lightening
Metallica - And Justice for All
REM - Automatic for the People
Megadeth - Countdown to Extinction
Coroner - Mental Vortex

Please replay to fred@wang.com.
From: jdschnitzer@mv.com (Jeff Schnitzer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Noteworthy
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:23:21 EST
Reply-To: jdschnitzer@schmac.mv.com
Distribution: usa
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1992Dec11.215735.1648@newstand.syr.edu> (rec.music.cd), evan@top.cis.syr.edu (Evan Cheng) writes:
    >  Is Noteworthy on line? If so, which network? How do I access it?
    >  
    >  I thought I read an article a couple days ago claiming that Noteworthy
    >  is on Genie and Compuserve. I tried to find it in (or is it on?)
    >  Compuserve but was not successful.
    >  

Noteworthy is on GEnie but not CompuServe.  I've ordered often
via GEnie and have been very happy.  Occaisionally when the
GEnie database gets out of date and something I've ordered is
no longer available I'll get a handwritten note from them.

In their (paper) catalog they say they've got a more powerful
PC based system they call ROEG (remote order entry gateway).
I haven't tried it since I've got a Mac at home rather than a PC.

Noteworthy is at 1-800-648-7972

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From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: S.O.U.L. S.Y.S.T.E.M.
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:21:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu's message of Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:13:01 GMT

Yes, that's Michelle Visage and from what I've heard there won't be any
more Seduction. Don't know if they'll generate an album.

Buy the 12" and be amazed though.
--
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: dx@netcom.com (dx)
Subject: Re: Geek Alert ! (was Re: Gentle Giant)
Organization: The Off Beat
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:29:54 GMT

Gregory Taylor...

> You should have really at least crossposted this to 
> rec.music.exclusivist.weenie, where you could have
> debated "proof" of those ever-popular objective values
> and picked the occasional fistfight with the Rush or
> Yes fan of your choice.

Look, Greg, you and I both know that the so called "proof" is really a
proof, no finger-quotes-in-the-air needed.  Yes is best.  As much as you
hate to face that objective fact, it's just that.  Now go flip you copy
of "Over the Edge" to side 2 and relax, hm?

-dx
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Subject: Re: Frank Zappa recommendations?
    <1992Dec12.033059.8574@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:43:40 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky, USA. -5 GMT

ok, i'll bite too:

best albums:
Joe's Garage I, II and III
You Are What You Is
Apostrophe/Overnight Sensation
Zoot Allures
Studio Tan

best songs:
The Ocean Is The Ultimate Solution
Dorine
Why Does It Hurt When I Pee?
Sleep Dirt
Suicide Chump
Heavenly Bank Account
Dinah Moe Hum
The Slime
Montana
Chungas Revenge
Conehead

Gregory Peckery
Crew Slut

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