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From: tommy@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Mike Thompson,332,54714,2734927)
Subject: Re: What is the recommended size for an OS/2 system-only partition?
Originator: tommy@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:46:09 GMT

From article <BzBAAD.114@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, by schepers@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Schepers):
>>I'll jump on this since, IMHO, there are right and wrongs ways to partition
>>the system.  I've installed some 8 systems under the following "principle".
>>
>>Primary partition 1:    1 MB for Boot manager
>>Primary partition 2:   30 MB FAT  (C:) DOS compatibility partition
>>Extended partition 4:  20 MB FAT  (G:) Swap partition.  Set so swap never
>>                                       competes with user space.  If 20 MB is
>>                                       not enough, you need more memory.
> 
> 
>      The thing that suprised me here was that the SWAP partition is FAT, NOT
> HPFS. In my experience, the swap file on a FAT drive is markedly slower
> than on HPFS.

The ONLY thing I put on the G: partition is the swap file.  Multiple
reasons:
  (1) Fragmentation is not a problem since it is the only file ==> fast
  (2) I don't care about the 8.3 limitation or extended attributes
  (3) Caching the OS/2 swapfile (HPFS) would be a waste of memory
  (4) All of the space is available, no overhead for HPFS

In practice, don't perceive any performance hit using the FAT for swap.

> Also, is the DOS compatability partition visible to OS/2 or is it hidden.

OS/2 will see all of the partitions, DOS will only see the FAT partitions.

>      Also also, as an aside, Boot Manager allows you to set a extended
> partition bootable, installable and the like, but when I tried to install
> DOS 5.0 in it, it would not boot. I would just get garbage scolling across
> the screen, and the machine would hang. Is this setup supposed to be
> possible? The reason I ask, is your OS/2 partition is setup as an extended,
> and it works. Does this not work for DOS as well?

The OS/2 partition is setup as an extended partition and boots great.

---------
Michael O. Thompson            tommy@msc.cornell.edu
Cornell University             (607) 255-4714

OS/2:  For the few, the proud, the devoted!
-- 
Michael O. Thompson            tommy@msc.cornell.edu
Cornell University             (607) 255-4714

OS/2:  For the few, the proud, the devoted!
From: "richard wyble" <richard.wyble@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: zoo (u)pdate okay?
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:01:03 EST
Reply-To: "richard wyble" <richard.wyble@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

Question regarding the ZOO program as obtained from Hobbs.

When using the UPDATE command, zoo is apparently reading and 
re-archiving every file in the target directory, whether or not they 
have been modified.

Example:    zoo uh old.archive \old.directory\*

If old.directory contains 100 files, and only 1 has been modified, zoo 
is recompressing 100 files!

Anyone else experience this? How can it be fixed?
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 richard.wyble@channel1.com           Richard J. Wyble, Worcester, MA
                       Written 12-18-92 at 20:37
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: schepers@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Schepers)
Subject: Re: Running ZIP/ZOO/etc from an icon (again!)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:56:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.063444.15320@midway.uchicago.edu> pynq@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>What is the 50 word synopsis of whether it is possible to run any of the
>compression programs effectively from an icon?  Is there a way to click
>on an icon and have it prompt you at runtime for the program parameters?
>

    What I do is drag a program template onto the desktop, and in the 'Program
and Filename' section, type in the drive:path\filename.ext you wish to
run. Then in the 'Parameters' line, type in '[ ]' (there is a space
between the two brackets). The brackets tell OS/2 to ask for input. This
should do what you want. 

     However, I have a much more elegant solution. Create a program
template, like above, but in the 'Parameters' line enter '%*'. Now,
instead of double-clicking on the icon, just drag an icon that you want
uncompressed onto the just-created program template, and watch it
un-compress automatically. The '%*' entered in the option line tells OS/2
to send the full filename and path to the program, rather than asking for
something. Also, for added elegance, open up the settings for the
just-created program template and click on full-screen and open minimized.
This way when the program runs, it will not be visible at all, just your
uncompressed files will appear in the directory from where you dragged it
from.


     For what it worth, I wrote a DOS application that acts as a front end
for all the uncompressors. It parses the filename, looks at the extension,
determines what uncompressor to run, creates a sub-directory with the name
of the file to uncompress, and uncompresses it into that folder. It then
'CD's into the folder, so that under DOS, you type 'UNZIP FILENAME.EXT'
and you will be in the subdirectory 'FILENAME' when the unzip process is
complete. From OS/2 I have a program object which references this UNZIP
program, and runs minimized in the background so I don't get any annoying
windows opening and closing all the time. When it is finished, I get the
subdirectory sitting in the folder where I was and I can now open it to
see what the contents of the .ZIP file where. 

     If this program seems useable, I can upload it. Or if I get the
time I might learn REXX, rewrite it, using all the latest OS/2 versions
of the uncompressors (rather than the DOS ones). Or maybe someone else
might take up the task. I do find the drag-and-drop procedure to be the best.


>************************************************************************
>La plus belle fille du monde ne peut
>donner que tout ce qu'elle a.
>
>	- pynq@quads.uchicago.edu, who is still costing the net
>	  hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars, every time he posts -
>************************************************************************


So, you are also costing the net lost of money as well. So am I. Maybe
together we can bankrupt the Internet?

Peter Schepers
University of Waterloo.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: Hot-key to kill WPS?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 11:26:05 GMT

>Well, I consistently have a problem with PMGlobe (32bit version) locking things
>up.  Ctrl-Esc will tell me this is so, and offer to let me kill the task but it
>won't die, Ctrl-Alt-Del time.  No way to reach anything useful like PSPM to
>kill it any other way.  I have had the Desktop to report itself locked, and if
>kill is selected, the desktop will restart.  Hmm, missed the Ctrl-Alt-Numlock
>trick when it was discussed earlier, will have to try that the next time the
>system locks up.

As far as I am concerned, IBM really, really, wasted Ctrl-Alt-Del.
C-A-D is a hardware interrupt, so as long as the handler isn't
corrupted, it should ALWAYS get the system's attnetion.  And I've never
had a case when I couldn't reboot with ctrl-alt-del.  So why couldn't
the C-A-D handler bring up a menu: "Kill WPS, Start cmd.exe session,
attempt shutdown, Reboot."

For those that REALLY wanted to fast reboot, (though it's not a good
idea) they could hit ctrl-alt-del and del again.  It's not like it's a
lot of extra hassle.
From: merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: NT won't co-exist with OS/2?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 01:17:45 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuro.usc.edu

Perhaps someone could post a binary patch to allow compatibility?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jlloyd@adapcal.UUCP (John Lloyd)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542A
Organization: Adaptec Inc., California
Date: Tue, 08 Dec 1992 18:17:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec4.183910.20174@philmtl.philips.ca> genrad@philmtl.philips.ca (Genrad) writes:
>
>	I am presently putting together a system to use with OS/2. I have an
>Adaptec 1524A ( the full length card ) with Bios revision 3.07. It is to be
>connected to a Micropolis 1355 140MB HD, an Archive 2150S tape, and a Suitable SCSI CD-ROM. I have the following questions:
>
>	1- As far as I know, there are Adaptec drivers built into OS/2. Do
>           they work with the 1542A, or are they limited to the 1542b?
>
The GA release of OS/2 2.0 does NOT support the 1542A. You need an ADD
file that is dated after 07/31/92. This should be available on the net,
on our BBS or in the Service Pack.

>	2- Is there a more current BIOS available for this card?
>
No, this is an obsolete product and no further enhancements are planned.

>	3- Is there any problem using CD-ROMs and/or tape drives with this
>           card.
>
There should no problems with either type of device. The main limitation
of the 1542A is an inability to support scatter/gather lists without
software emulation.

John

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Screen savers
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:07:31 GMT

In article <1gnh6eINNo2r@hpscit.sc.hp.com> kitchin@lf.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin) writes:
>: There's also Window Washer.  Everything mentioned is available via
>: anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.
>What is the file name for Window Washer?  I've searched pub/os2/00Index
>for everything I could think of and didn't identify it.

Well, now I can't seem to find it, either.

It is available from the OS/2 Shareware BBS (703-385-4325) if anyone
would like to go fetch it.  It is done by One Up Corp.

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: How to make AUTOEXEC.BAT not run when DOS win spawned from OS/2 win
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:34:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.142633.11377@midway.uchicago.edu> pynq@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>I set up my AUTOEXEC.BAT to set up the desired environment for when I
>open a DOS window.  However, I have found that when I run a DOS program
>from within an OS/2 window, it spawns a DOS window in which to run the
>command.  Unfortunately, it also runs the AUTOEXEC in that case.

AUTOEXEC.BAT is for those commands you want run with every DOS
session.  To run commands only for a particular DOS session, just
write a batch file.

OS/2 2.1 (or whatever the version) will add an option to select the
AUTOEXEC.BAT file to be run.  It won't really add anything in terms of
features, but it will make things more convenient.

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From: wow@cup.portal.com (wallace otis waggoner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Any experience w/ The  Complete Answering Machine
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 02:00:55 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

quit
I need info on running the complete answering machine within os/2.
From: guilloej@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Edwin J Guillot)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: printer driver for hp-deskjet 550 required
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:47:34 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: guilloej@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Edwin J Guillot)
NNTP-Posting-Host: o233-10.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <Bz3751.GFC@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>  
klotz@x.cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Juergen Klotz) writes:
> 
> i plan to buy a hp 550 (color/bw) deskjet, but i want to know first is :
>    is there a driver for this printer available from IBM/HP or on the  
net ?
> 
> maybe it's on the OS2 update but i don't have it yet !??
> 
> 
> bye
>   juergen klotz
>   (email : klotz@cip.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de)
> 

You can get it from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu or download fron the IBM NSC BBS
(404) 835-6600
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dposey@well.sf.ca.us (David Posey)
Subject: Re: Any news on OS/2 2.1?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:30:45 GMT

In <921214190925@rgam.sc.ti.com> 5692330@mcimail.com (Robert Gammon) writes:

>In article <gershon.722754974@husc10> gershon@husc10.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon) writes:

> >> Does anyone know when OS/2 2.1 will be released?  I assume some sort of
> >> upgrade will be availible on the net.  Will that upgrade need 2.0 with
> >> the CSD?
> >> 
> >> I heard there is a 2.1 internal beta floating around IBM.  What is 2.1
> >> improving?
> >> 
> >> any information would be appreciated.
> >>                                          --Ethan Gershon
> >>                                          gershon@husc.harvard.edu

>OS/2 2.1????? What is this beast???  I think what you really mean is the
>Service Pack that is targeted for release late December/early January.  No
>announcement has been made, to my knowledge, about the revision level of this
>service pack.  Last word that I got from IBM was that it MIGHT be called 2.00.1,
>or 2.01.   Lets use terminology that we can ALL understand, and that won't
>get us the equivalent of a blank stare when talking to IBM about this on
>the phone or in person.  All we know now is that this is a Service Pack.

>--
>Regards,
>Robert Gammon
>(713)-274-3299       (voice)
>(713)-274-2324       (fax)

OS/2 2.1 is being discussed today in c.o.os2.advocacy - it is scheduled for
release in late Feb/early March (pre-Comdex). The Service Pack is
_already_out! 1-800-3IBMOS2 to order ($25, 14 disks).
It is not 'golden' (a perfect release), there are known bugs already.
It is faster in several ways, includes the 32-bit graphics engine, and
includes the *beta* Windows3.1 code (which has been known to cause a few
glitches).

-David
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: NT won't co-exist with OS/2?
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:45:33 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore) writes:
>> [microsoft won't work with os/2 and kills baby seals etc....]

>Lets mention the obvious before we run off. Has anyone tried an alternate
>boot manager (not ibm or miceysoft) ? How about posing the question to 
>MS directly (assume CI$) as to how to arrange a dual boot, explaining carefully
>that you are devloping for both operating systems in tandem and it will be
>a cold day below before we get sucked into this stupid little tiff ?

>I missed the first part of this discuss. Can someone re-inform me as to how
>NT refuses to run ? My understanding of the boot manager is that after it
>selects a partition, the only way to determine what your boot source is 
>would be to start searching other partitions for os/2 code.

It has been posted elsewhere that you can get around the MS tactics, but
it would be painful if you already have OS2 installed.
 
Basically, you take a clean disk, apply DOS, apply NT with flexboot,
and then add Boot Manager at the end of the disk, and then apply OS2.
At boot, Boot Mangler offers OS2 vs "DOS", then flexboot offers DOS
vs NT. In essence, you can get around the problem by putting OS2 on
after NT, so that NT doesn't die when it sees BM.
 
Alternativley, you can remove the ID from an already installed BM,
although I don't know how this is done - ask Mr. Sipples. This fools
NT into thinking BM isn't there. After NT is on, you can re-activate
BM.
 
Ouch.
 
PS - MS doesn't kill baby seals, 
     they just maim them.

-- 
Tom Hatton
hatton@cgl.ucsf.edu
(415)-476-7986
From: larsn@Autodesk.COM (Lars Nyman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: SOM, C++ binding
Keywords: SOM
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:47:21 GMT


I recently got the documentation for SOM (System Object Model) that
describes the C binding.
 
Does a C++ binding exist (and if so, where can I get more info) ?
Is SOM being utilized/used ?
What are the experiences w/ SOM ?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf Paul)
Subject: Another Internal Processing Error
Reply-To: cc_paul@rcvie.co.at (Wolf N. Paul)
Organization: Alcatel Austria - Elin Research Center, Vienna
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 10:45:15 GMT

Three times during the last couple of weeks my system crashed with
the following error message. One during the night, with no activity at
all, and twice while I was working. Before I call IBM Tech Support
I was wondering if anyone can identify the problem for me:

     The system detected an internal processing
     error at location ##0160:fff6453f - 000d:a53f
     60000, 9084
     CPS: Extent not found.
     038600d1
     Internal revision 6.307, 92/03/01

This is OS2 2.0 GA without the service pack, but with the new kernel
file which has been available on hobbes for some time.

Thanks,

Wolf

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: g1nickut@cdf.toronto.edu (Nick Zahariadis)
Subject: Re: Hot-key to kill WPS?
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Disciplines Facility
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:40:35 GMT

In article <921218135552@rgam.sc.ti.com> 5692330@mcimail.com  (Robert Gammon) writes:
>In article <15DEC199220470840@zeus.tamu.edu> lmp8913@zeus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M) writes:

 [other stuff deleted]...
> >>         Since this scenario will not work if the keyboard locks up, 
> >> is there a utility or driver that will recycle the WPS on demand?  I've 
> >> never had Ctrl-Alt-Numlock fail to work properly (If you can call that a 
> >> solution!!), so some sort of driver should be possible to permit the WPS 
> >> to be killed via the keyboard, even if it is "locked up".

 This is in fact not possible, and probably not advisable. From my
 understanding of it, shutdown capabilities and such lie at the kernel
 level and you probably wouldn't want to have a utility overriding operating
 system functions. If IBM can't figure it out and someone else can, then
 hmmm... there is definitely a problem here. 

>Well, I consistently have a problem with PMGlobe (32bit version) locking things
>up.  Ctrl-Esc will tell me this is so, and offer to let me kill the task but it
>won't die, Ctrl-Alt-Del time.  No way to reach anything useful like PSPM to
>kill it any other way.  I have had the Desktop to report itself locked, and if
>kill is selected, the desktop will restart.  Hmm, missed the Ctrl-Alt-Numlock
>trick when it was discussed earlier, will have to try that the next time the
>system locks up.

 FYI, the keysequence is CTRL+ALT+NUMLOCK+NUMLOCK. What that does is
 perform a core dump on floppy disks, a core dump deing the contents of
 your memory, all X MBytes or so. Your mileage my vary, etc. And you
 have to format the first floppy on a running OS/2 bootup using a special
 utility that comes with OS/2 called CREATEDD (create dump diskette???).
 It is meant to be used by IBM tech-support in impossible-to-figure-out
 problem situations.

 Of course IBM won't be too happy if you send them the core dump if 
 they don't ask you for it and that's understandable. They would preety
 soon end up with a warehouse full of floppies etc. Actually that may
 prove fruitfull in cases where MS gets scared again of some real
 competition and decides to buy all the floppies so that their
 competitor has nothing to ship their operating system in. I thought
 I'd throw that in for fun! 
 
 Does this help?

 Nick.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Always put off until tomorrow what you are sure 
 to mess up beyond repair today."
Nick Zahariadis    e-mail: g1nickut@cdf.utoronto.ca
From: roland@vnet.ibm.com (Roland Cise)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 09:14:15 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 32-bit Trident drivers hang my system as well !
Reply-To: roland@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM UK Labs Ltd, Hursley Park, England
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

I had great hopes of the newly released Trident 32bit drivers, but as
yet to no avail. I have been trying to get SVGA working on OS/2 2.0 since
it went GA in April this year, and this has turned somewhat into a crusade
Other folk can get the Trident drivers to work so why not me ?

I installed the latest drivers, exactly as per the notes, ie:-

  1. In a pure DOS session -
     Copyied over the new SVGA.EXE and ran SVGA ON DOS. Why did this create
     SVGADATA.PMI for an IBMSVGA Chipset ? After several attempts at mucking
     around with this a SVGADATA.DOS was created for a Trident 8900. This was
     about 21200 bytes. What I did to produce this, heaven knows ! Is this
     correct ? Anyway this was renamed as SVGADATA.PMI in D:\OS2 directory.

  2. Copied over IBMVGA32.DLL, BVHSVGA.DLL, fonts and the 600x480x256 driver
     as IBMDEV32.DLL. I did not copy the VSVGA.SYS file.

  3. Ensured CONFIG.SYS settings were OK for SVGA.

  4. Rebooted. Machine hung with blank screen, cursor flashing top LH corner.

This is all I have ever managed to get. What am I doing wrong ?

My configuration:- 486/33 DX Clone, AMI Bios
                   16Mb RAM
                   170Mb IDE (Cached controller) Hard disk
                   105 Mb Quantum Plus hardcard
                   Trident 8900c display board
                   OS/2 2.0 GA + SP.
                   Dual boot with Boot Manager
                   MSDos 5.0 on drive C:
                   OS/2 2.0  on drive D:

Roland Cise                       Internet: roland@vnet.ibm.com
CICS/ESA Data Interface
IBM UK Labs Ltd, Hursley,
England, SO21 2JN
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Where to get the $15 OS/2 CD?
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:38:57 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Dec15.190902.6128@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> rahayden@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (R Andrew Hayden) writes:
>Subject says it all.
>It is my understanding that you can purchase a copy of OS/2 2.0 on CD-ROM
>for $15.  Where do you do this?  (number, address, whatever).

You may order by calling 800-3-IBM-OS2.  Ask for the November OS/2 2.x
Professional Developer's Kit CD-ROM.

>I would like to try out OS/2 to see what's what, but I don't want to spend
>$80 for the Win 3.x to OS/2 upgrade (I just want to see how it works).

If you order OS/2 2.0 directly from IBM (same telephone number) for
$99, you get a 30 day no questions asked money back guarantee.

(Non-U.S. residents: contact your local IBM branch office.)

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