HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
X-Original-To:  I-AMIGA@RUTVM1.BITNET, TIGNER
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:42:00 EST
From:         TIGNER@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Zen and the art of internet

on Oct 5, 1992 Lance Tagliapietra wrote
> The original source for Zen and the Art of the Internet was done in the TeX
> typesetting language.  The author only released the DVI (TeX DeVice
> Independent) and PS files.  No ASCII version of this file ever existed.

in response to Argo Fraser's question .

> Does anyone know of a ascii version of this file or a way to> convert it to as
cii? (referrring to Zen and the art of internet)

My sysadmin here says that DecWrite , a program which runs on our DEC VMS/VAX
machines will convert Postscript files to ascii, but you will lose most of
the fancy formatting. Check with your SysAdmin, if you have a VAX.

--Barry-->


%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
% Barry Tigner                % I want a native 040  %
% Michigan State University   % Amiga with at least  %
% Physics and Astronomy dept. % VGA resolution,DIG,  %
% TIGNER@MSUPA.BITNET         % etc. VM is a kludge. %
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
From: LH@SELDC52.BITNET
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Subject: Re: Universal Printer Driver
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:40:00 GMT
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Envelope-to: I-AMIGA@FINHUTC.BITNET
X-VMS-To: IN%"I-AMIGA@FINHUTC.BITNET"

Hi!
>One of our students claimed to have seen a "universal printer driver" program
>for the Amiga.  Does anyone know anything about this?
>
>As I understand it, this is a program, something like the Amiga Printer Prefs
>program, except it allows you to enter printer parameters directly, rather than
>simply identifying a driver.  I thought he mean't that it was a custom driver
>creation utility, but apparently not.  When pressed, he couldn't remember where
>he saw it, and I'm skeptical about its existance.

There are something on Fish Disk 90, was it something like that you wanted ??

Fish Disk 90
PrtDrvGen       Program to automatically generate custom printer drivers.
                Version 2.2b, binary only, source available from author.
                Author:  Joergen Thomsen

>Jim Loomis      LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET        607-274-3913
>        Director, Telecommunications Facilities
>        Roy H. Park School of Communications
>        Ithaca College, Ithaca, NY 14850-7256 USA

Regards
Lars
Lars.Holst@LDC.lu.se or LH@seldc52.bitnet
From: uel111r2a.x.tferi4@UNI-LJ.SI
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Subject: Re: Universal Printer Driver
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:45:13 GMT
Reply-To: uel111r2a%tferi4@uni-lj.SI
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Priority:     normal
P1-Message-Id: si*mail*ac;921002163943
X400-Trace:   si*mail*ac; arrival Fri, 2 Oct 92 16:39+0100 action Relayed
X400-Trace:   de*dbp*GMD; arrival Fri, 2 Oct 92 16:41+0100 action Relayed

Dan Roman writes:
>Jim Loomis writes:
>> One of our students claimed to have seen a "universal printer driver" progra
m
>> for the Amiga.  Does anyone know anything about this?
>>
>> As I understand it, this is a program, something like the Amiga Printer Pref
s
>> program, except it allows you to enter printer parameters directly, rather t
han
>> simply identifying a driver.  I thought he mean't that it was a custom drive
r
>> creation utility, but apparently not.  When pressed, he couldn't remember wh
ere
>> he saw it, and I'm skeptical about its existance.
>There was/is a program which created custom drivers for 1.3, I never had
>a need for it, but I clearly remember seeing it.  Maybe your student is
>confusing this "universal" driver with this program.  Not really much of
>a difference between the two types of programs anyway by the description
>given.  The time period I remember seeing the thing was around the
>switch from 1.2 to 1.3.

If I remember correctly, there is such a program on an early Fish disk (around
150, although I could be wrong). There is also a commercial program, included
with the Cloanto Personal Fonts Maker.

Hope this helps a little.
			Blaz

+---------------------------------------------+--------------------+
| Blaz Zupan, University of Maribor, Slovenia |   //  Commodore    |
| E-mail: uel111r2a%tferi4@uni-lj.si          | \X/     Amiga      |
+---------------------------------------------+--------------------+
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:23:05 HST
From:         Todd Mizomi <TODDM@UHUNIX.BITNET>
Subject:      Ultimate Amiga

        Has anyone out there built and actually used on a daily basis an
Amiga system that runs both Macintosh and IBM software?  I'm very int erested
in doing the same and wondered if anyone else has done the same.  I've seen
the INFO article a while back, but it's pretty much outdated now (does anyone
know if they're out of business or coming back?)  and I heard there was an
article on it in AmigaWorld, but I missed it.   If anyone can get a copy of
the Amigaworld article to me by email/fax/pony express/whathaveyou, I would
greatly appreciate it!

Todd K. Mizomi
toddm@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Wong AV Center
Cell Block A305 (help! I'm surrounded by macintosh computers! AAAUUGH!)
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"i-amiga@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu"
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 09:04:46 -0400
From:         CAMACHO@ECSUC.CTSTATEU.EDU
Subject:      Amiga Dos 2.1

It has been mentioned that AmigaDos comes on 6 disks now, and that
it includes different langauges. Does it include Japanese? (Or
what languages does it support...)

Carlos
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Priority:     normal
P1-Message-Id: si*mail*ac;920928115826
X400-Trace:   si*mail*ac; arrival Mon, 28 Sep 92 11:58+0100 action Relayed
X400-Trace:   de*dbp*GMD; arrival Mon, 28 Sep 92 11:59+0100 action Relayed
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:36:54 -0400
Reply-To:     uel111r2a%tferi4@uni-lj.SI
From:         uel111r2a.x.tferi4@UNI-LJ.SI
Subject:      Re: UPGRADING A3000 WITH AGA CHIPSET.

Dan Riley <dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu> writes:
>"(David Andreas Sjoeen)" <david_s@HSR.NO> writes:
>>But since C= isn't going to release a hardware manual, which means that
>>you have to use the OS calls, wouldn't it be enough to patch all the
>>graphics functions so that they accessed the Zorro-III card?
>That would be enough for new software that uses the AGA features and the
>V39 graphics.library calls.  However, the AGA chipset is mostly backwards
>compatible with the ECS, so you can still run your old software.  Some of
>this software bangs on the chip registers directly, so those programs
>won't work with a ZIII card.  The interesting question is:  how much
>software actually does hit the chip registers directly?  Are you willing
>to live without those programs that do?

Most of the software that uses direct chip access are games. The only non-game
program I know of which uses direct chip access is AMOS. So if you would
use such a ZIII card you would give up all those nice 256000+ color
games (yet to be released :-)).

BTW (the following has nothing to do with this topic, but anyway)...
On the Amiga World '92 in Vienna I saw the OpalVision 24 bit board running
a 24 bit game. Nice preview of the A4000 capatibilities (I mean running
256000+ color games :-)).

+---------------------------------------------+--------------------+
| Blaz Zupan, University of Maribor, Slovenia |   //  Commodore    |
| E-mail: uel111r2a%tferi4@uni-lj.si          | \X/     Amiga      |
+---------------------------------------------+--------------------+
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Organization: University of Wisconsin--Platteville
X-Envelope-to: I-AMIGA@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu
X-VMS-To: IN%"I-AMIGA@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu"
X-VMS-Cc: 96720919
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:57:00 CST
From:         Lance Tagliapietra <96720919@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Fish disk 731+++ where?

>Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:14:08 EDT
>From: STECY DUBE <dubes00@DMI.USHERB.CA>
>Subject: Fish disk 731+++ where?
>
>Hi everyone...
>
>Does someone know where I can find the fish disks 731 and up?
>I tried the ux1 site but they don't have them right now...
>
>
>Thanks...
>--

My favorite place to get the fish disks is GRIND.isca.uiowa.edu.

-Lance
 ---------------- Amiga - The Wild Side of Power Computing -----------------
 Lance Tagliapietra                       Internet: 96720919@ucs.uwplatt.edu
 P.O. Box 26                                BitNet: 96720919@uwplatt
 Platteville, WI 53818
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:37:06 HST
From:         Todd Mizomi <TODDM@UHUNIX.BITNET>
Subject:      bridgeboards and amax

        Two questions.........

        1. Has anyone tried playing Wing Commander, Falcon 3.0, or all those
other really cool games that are NOT AVAILABLE FOR AMIGA YET BUT THOSE BLOODY
IBM PEOPLE GET TO PLAY WITH on a 286 or better bridgeboard?  Does it work? or
does the board choke on 'em?
        2. Are there any users who have used the AmaxII+ card with System 7
yet?  I'd like to hear how it worked out or didn't work out for you and what
setup you have.

        Thanks in advance....


Todd K. Mizomi
toddm@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu
University of Hawaii at Manoa
Wong AV Center
Cell Block A305
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Organization: University of Wisconsin--Platteville
X-Envelope-to: I-AMIGA@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu
X-VMS-To: IN%"I-AMIGA@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu"
X-VMS-Cc: 96720919
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:42:00 CST
From:         Lance Tagliapietra <96720919@UCS.UWPLATT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: High density drives on Amiga

>Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:31:14 GMT
>From: "(Chris Mojica)" <thumper@GARFIELD.CATT.NCSU.EDU>
>Subject: RE: High density drives on Amiga
>
>Apparently it is possible, but you have to have the 1.44m ibm diskdrive.  Here
>is a text file that I downloaded from a local bbs which contains info on how to
>use the drive.  BTW there are about ten files that you need to use the drive so
>if anyone is interested in it just post that you are and I will lharc the files
>then uuencode them to post them here.
>
>text file follows:
>
>
>     Ok thiz time it's a Txt file made for all ya by Nemesis of TCB!!!!
>     ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  This text is a number of simple hints for those who have bought
>  one 1.44 drive (1520k exactly!!) and still have some troubbles with it!
>
[...]

Not being critical or anything, but I would be a bit wary of such files,
as without special hardware, the chip involved cannot generate data
at the rate needed to write all those sectors in a single revolution
of a disk.

Has anyone been gutsy enough to try one of these?

-Lance
 ---------------- Amiga - The Wild Side of Power Computing -----------------
 Lance Tagliapietra                       Internet: 96720919@ucs.uwplatt.edu
 P.O. Box 26                                BitNet: 96720919@uwplatt
 Platteville, WI 53818
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:18:45 PDT
From:         "(Daniel Joseph Oak)" <jonin@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: High density drives on Amiga (inf0)
              "I-AMIGA@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu" at Oct 5, 92 5:31 pm

>
> uel111r2a.x.tferi4@UNI-LJ.SI writes:
>
> >Hi!
> >I would like to get a high density (1.76Mb) drive for my A2000. But I don't
> >want to buy one from C= (I don't even know if they make HD drives for
 2000's).
> >I would like to buy a PC drive and use it for my A2000. Is it possible?
> >Or do the Amiga drives have any additional controller hardware?
>
> >Thanx in advance,
> >		Blaz
 I was on the phone to C= yesterday and here is the scoop:
the 1.77meg internal hd drives that ship with the 4000 and in some 3000's
can plug into any amiga with the 2.04 rom set. The rom will detect if i
it is the HD or not and act accoringly.  Seems it was some higher up who
didnt want to put them in all amiga's in the first place.  anywho - that
part of management is gone now, and we should be seeying them being sold
soon. :)  there is no controller nessassary then the one already supplied
in your amiga.  Price?  heck if I know. :)  If you get flack trying to
order one from commodore, I would suggest asking for a replacement part
floppy drive for the 4000. :)  What can I say? there is no special
consideration to take in effect. treat it as a normal floppy install.
and oh yeah - the drive is compatible with ibm style 1.44 and the like.
t



-
Evil Geniuses /   /\ ___   ___    o ___    /o @netcom.com 37.16N 121.58W 200ft.
For A \ oo / /   / // _ \ / / \ /\ / / \  / __o   --- Squidly Diddly Says ---
Better \--/ /___/ // |/ // /  // // /  / / (oO)  "A penny saved is ridiculous"
Tommorow\/ / \___/ \___/ \/  / \/ \/  / /  /||\
From: es2fr!christ%gwelup@RELAY.EU.NET ((Chris Tann))
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Subject: Amiga 1000
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:02:18 GMT
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

G'day,

I'm looking to get hold of some circuit diagrams for an Amiga. The
beast in question is an Amiga 1000, bought in the US in 1986. I don't
know anything like revision information at the moment. Any clues anyone?

p.s. - Are 1000's collectors items yet????


+========================================+====================================+
| "I guess I'd better put in some witty  | Chris Tann, ES2, France            |
|  signature like all those other guys!" | (c-tann@es2fr or c-tann@es2fr.uucp |
|                          - unknown     |  or c-tann%es2fr.uucp@inria.fr)    |
|                                        |   I still call Australia home!     |
+========================================+====================================+
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:07:58 -0500
From:         "(Arc Wave)" <arc@JUDY.INDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      setcpu

Could someone please post the latest version of SetCpu by Dave Hanie
on warchive.wustl.edu in the /systems/amiga/incoming/utils ?

Thanks!

Paul

 .___________________________________________________________________________.
 | Arc Wave, real life: Paul Cardwell | INet Address: arc@judy.indstate.edu  |
 |----------\\-----//--------------------------------------------------------|
 | ----     \\\^ ^///     "Amiga, the wild side of power computing."    ---- |
 |  -----    \\|.|//                Amiga/UNIX/C Programmer           -----  |
 `------------\\-//----------------------------------------------------------'
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Subject: Re: Pc-TASK/Cross PC
From: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz (John Davis)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:58:47 GMT
Reply-To: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz
Organization: Chem Dept, Uni of Canty, Chch, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

JWONG@UCRVM2.BITNET wrote:

>     Does anybody know how can I speedup the CrossPC?


ummm ... buy a faster Amiga (should really move on a a4000:-)

seriously though .... Mark Tomlinson is currently working on a
few cunning tricks that should dramatically improve CrossPC's
performance, watch this space for more news

--
-----------------------------------------------------------
| o      John Davis - davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz        o |
| o                   chem194@csc.canterbury.ac.nz       o |
| o                   John_Davis@equinox.gen.nz          o |
| o    (Depart)mental Programmer,Chemistry Department    o |
| o  University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand o | 
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania
X-Envelope-to: I-Amiga@RUTVM1.bitnet
X-VMS-To: NETMAIL%"pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com", I-AMIGA
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:35:00 EDT
From:         QCZUSEA@IUP.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Internal hard-drives for the A500?

        I currently own ICD's Novia-20i 2.5" internal hard drive, and am VERY
happy with it!  The unit is an IDE controller that fits under the 68000, with a
2.5" hd that is supposed to be mounted over your Agnus and Gary chips.  The hds
come in various sizes ranging from 20 to (I think) 80 Mb.  I have found it to
be VERY reliable, and fast enough on it's disk access to make me happy.  ICD
claims that you can run their hd and controller off of your original power
supply without any trouble, but from personal experience, I have found that
with my system as it is (AdRam 540 w/2 megs, external floppy) the whole unit is
drawing a heavy load off of the original PS, and the IDE controller gets
rather hot from the strain, and has caused my system to crash on hot days....
(I need to get a better PS soon!)
        As for instillation, it was pretty easy to do yourself, but if your
machine is still under warranty, you might want to get a qualified C= tech to
do it.  I found that the mounting of the drive was a bit of a pain because the
feet that came with the unit were not tall enough to get it off of the Agnus
chip, so I added two or three layers of double sided foam tape to it.  This
unfortunately brought the total height of the unit over the height of the metal
shielding by about 1mm (not much, but it was annoying) and caused it to bow when
I closed the metal case.
        As I said before, all in all, I have had very few problems with the unit
(although I wish that I had had the $$ to get a 60 or 80 Mb drive), and aside
from the heat problem which I solved for the moment by removing the RF
shielding, I have been EXTREMELY happy with my little Novia.
********************************************************************************
"An intellectual is an educated person    |Rabid Spinach
who can't do arithmetic with his          |(AKA: Erik Blank)
shoes on, and is proud of his lack."      |(Bitnet:QCZUSEA@IUP)
                - Robert A. Heinlein      |(Internet:QCZUSEA@GROVE.IUP.EDU)
================================================================================
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:33:37 EDT
From:         "(Daniel Roman)" <roman@TIX.TIMEPLEX.COM>
Subject:      Re: Help with demos(ect.) for Computer Tech Day
              at Sep 29, 92 9:22 pm

>        On Oct. 1st I as the president of a struggling Amiga Users
>Group have the opportunity to show the Amiga at our University's
>Computer Technology Day.  Vendor reps from DEC, Dell, IBM, Zenith
>Data Systems, Borland, Wordperfect, and Microsoft will be present.
>It is a big deal locally but nothing to plan a road trip for.
A fairly simple (and small) demo of the Amiga's capabilities as far as
graphics and sound are concerned is "Mesmorized".  It's a demo which you
should run in PAL mode if so equipped.  It's something you could leave
running for people to stare at and listen to either before or after your
main demonstration (which in my opinion should include a Schwartz
animation, a game like Shadow of the Beast II (the intro is impressive
enough), a demo of a C compile, editor, and comm program all running at
the same time, and maybe something like Final Copy (all to just show the
flexibility of the machine)).

BTW, Mesmorized is my son's favorite demo, he sits in front of the
machine "mesmorized" whenever it's running.

--
____________________________________________________________________
Dan Roman           |     ///      Internet:  roman@tix.timeplex.com
Ascom Timeplex Inc. | \\\///                        GEnie:  D.ROMAN1
Woodcliff Lake, NJ  |  \XX/ Only AMIGA!     Homebrew is better brew.
====================================================================
From: RDC@TNTECH.BITNET (New father of twins! - Erik and Melissa)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Subject: Help with demos(ect.) for Computer Tech Day
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:25:32 GMT
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-Envelope-to: I-AMIGA@UBVM.BITNET
X-VMS-To: IN%"I-AMIGA@UBVM"
MIME-version: 1.0
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT


        On Oct. 1st I as the president of a struggling Amiga Users
Group have the opportunity to show the Amiga at our University's
Computer Technology Day.  Vendor reps from DEC, Dell, IBM, Zenith
Data Systems, Borland, Wordperfect, and Microsoft will be present.
It is a big deal locally but nothing to plan a road trip for.
What I seek from the net wisdom is suggestions of non-vulgar demos
I need to fetch via ftp to show at this show.  Also, some pointers
to where some comercial demos that I might be able to use would
be great to.  I'd like the site and dir if you have them.  My time
is short but I want to do the best I can in the time I have to
show off the Amiga.   Help if you have the time, please.
        thanks!
Rick   - rdc@tntech.bitnet
Internet coming soon to our node!




 Snail mail:                        |  bitnet address:                  //
 Rick Cumby  Programmer/Analyst     |  rdc@tntech                     \X/
 P O Box 5071                       |  Work phone: 615-372-3986     Only on
 Tennessee Technological University |  subscribed lists:             Amiga
 Cookeville TN 38505                |  ADND-L,FOCUS-L,IA-SIS,I-AMIGA...
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Via:        UK.AC.LSPLY;  6 OCT 92 13:00:42 BST
Via: courier (novell-smtp-gateway.leeds-poly.ac.uk); Tue, 6 Oct 92 13:00:45 GMT
Encoding:   5 TEXT
X-Mailer:   Network Courier V2.1b
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:57:00 PDT
From:         Jamie Dunford <J.Dunford@LEEDS-POLY.AC.UK>
Subject:      re: PINBALL DREAMS II

Thanks Wimboy, I forgot that the non-European mail users will tucked up in bed
at the moment. I'll have a look out for that magazine. Tell us about what you
find at the Koln computer fair on Thursday too.

Jamie
Original_To:  BITNET%"I-AMIGA@UBVM.BITNET"
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:25:00 EDT
From:         BARNETTJ@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Annoucement: ToolManager 2.0

What compression technique was used on the UPD file enclosed in the
subdirectory "Goodies?{"  I can't get it to uncompress.  Anyhelp would be
appreciated.
-Jordan
Barnettj@snysyrv1.bitnet
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:10:48 +0100
From:         "(Chris Tann)" <es2fr!christ%gwelup@RELAY.EU.NET>
Subject:      ORACLE

G'day

I'm looking for archives relating to ORACLE (tm). Does anyone
know where I can access such a thing? Specifically, I'm
trying to find various keyboard emulation files so as
to run ORACLE on different sorts of terminal.

ps - Thanks to the person that helped out with locating
the Amiga 1000 schematics - I passed your mail message
straight on, but didn't keep a copy.

+=======================================+====================================+
| "I guess I'd better put in some witty | Chris Tann, ES2, France            |
|  signature like all those other guys!"| (c-tann@es2fr or c-tann@es2fr.uucp |
|                          - unknown    |  or c-tann%es2fr.uucp@inria.fr)    |
|                                       |   I still call Australia home!     |
+=======================================+====================================+
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU