HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: THE SCATOLOGICAL MIND OF SREEHARI NIMMALA
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:20:24 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct9.222411.9620@athena.cs.uga.edu> venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!) writes:
   The following is the mail I received from Sreehari Nimmala
   following my response to netters remarks on his "so called"
   article BACK FROM INDIA which you netters have been fed up to 
   the back teeth.Well Mr Nimmala still hasn't given up
   on his grouse ,when he did not get the sympathy he
   expected to elicit from the netters.
   Again he must have also been disappointed when he threatened
   the unbooked travellers in the first class compartment that he
   would diall 911,or tried waving his social security card number 
   or one his credit cards.
   Well anyway here is his letter and I am going to complain to
   the Emory univ System administrators about this posting.

   Message 7/7  From Sreehari Nimmala                     Oct 7 '92 at 9:52 am -240


   Return-Path: chemsn@unix.cc.emory.edu
   Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 09:52:09 -0400
   To: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!)
   Subject: Re: Back from India

   You mother-fucker. Who the fuck you are to call me names,
   you Son of a Wh***? Basterd, if I happen to meet you in
   person, take from me that that would be the end of you tamil
   brahmin fucker. You IDIOT.


   regards
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy)
Subject: Re: Muslims will start an Armed Rebellion
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:31:16 GMT


In article <Bw5D4B.AFy@news.cso.uiuc.edu> vtg1714@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Vishwanath 
Tirupattur  ) writes:
>If one considers the speech as such (i.e., not with standing the fact that
>Jagrithi is well known as BJP/ABVP mouth piece and as such any thing      
>published in Jagrithi is usually to push BJP/ABVP agenda) I find that there 
>is certainly some truth in the speech attributed to ISS chief.  It is not 
>untrue that in a vast majority of the communal riots in India, members of the
>Muslim community have suffered more than their Hindu counterparts.  Ample 
>documentation exists to this effect (before anyone pounces on me demanding
>references, suffice to say that a quick review of Economic Political Weekly's
>past issues would be more than adequate).  It is also not untrue that

       You claim that Jagrithi is BJP/ABVP mouthpiece, at the same time
you give reference to EWP and don't say that it is the mouthpiece of
 pseudo-secularists. Intentional !!!!!!

Raja



>Uma Bharathi's casettes and speeches are very venomous and contain many pointe
d
>references to the Muslim community in very derogatory ways.  Anyone who has 
>heard her speeches/tapes will vouch for that.  That the two "Yatras" have 
>contributed to the heightening of communal passions is also not untrue.  
>
>The point I am trying to make is that, even though I do not endorse the views
>held by the ISS chief entirely, at least some of the things he is saying are
>indeed true.  And as to the implicit threatening and communal posture, I do no
t
>find it, either in language or content any more offensive than some of the
>BJP leaders like Murali Manohar Joshi and VHP leaders like Ashok Singhal. 
>

     Can you give reference to any such speach ? Not EPW please.

>Vishwanath
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: SOME DOKI JOKES (AND MORE :-))!!
Date: 9 Oct 1992 19:30:40 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu


hey i never refuse an offer for pahtying. you can always come over to
worcester and we can have one helluva night. just tell me if you are
interested and i will send you the directions to come to my place.


suresh


ps: i am serious.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: UN map sans Kashmir
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 01:19:12 GMT

banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.041958.8342@cc.uow.edu.au> g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:
>>v079rbu4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>>
>>
>>>STOP DREAMING Be realistic Kashmir belongs to India thats it.
>>
>>Be realistic.
>>You should know that U.N. is not fool.


>Yes, unlike you, it's not full of ......(Samit Benerjee).

Bye
Adil


>Samit


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: BM-RJB issue (more developments)
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:47:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: csrd.1992Oct13.184703.29503
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL

(Raja R Roy) writes:

>       Are we having a communication gap here? Demography is not geography,
>it is the distribution of population. It does not take a God to change
>the distribution of population. In my opininion, Kashmir problem is due to 
>segregation of muslim population over there. If muslims are divided homoge-
>neosly all over India, lot of problems will be solved. 

No, as you made quite clear in this post, no communication gap.  But to
repeat my earlier question, who or what gives anybody the right to divide
any group of people up, homogeneously or otherwise.  How would Bengos like
being distributed all over South India, simply because they are segregated
in West Bengal.  Quite possible the Naxal problem would never have arisen
if that had been done.  I know it does not take a God to do that.  A Hitler
is enough.

>     After the independence people from outside Kashmir were not allowed to
> buy land there. If it has been allowed, population would be more homogeneous
>there, and hopefully this would have thwarted an attempt of muslim extremists
>to secede. 

Nobody likes being swamped by outsiders, and made to feel like second 
class citizens in their land.  And that is exactly what would have
hsppened in Kashmir if the gates had been opened.  Been true in Bombay,
Calcutta, and Shillong at least.  Kashmiris being such a small population
they would have gone the way of the aborigines in no time.  Don't see how
that could be avoided.

>After all, if Kashmir is a part of our country, then why it should
> not be just like  any other  part    of India, why it should have a 
>special status?      

How many Kashmiris have said they are a part of India?  And how many 
have said they would unconditionally be part of India?

>   What is your point here? Rich exploit poor, developed countries exploit
> underdeveloped, but that is not point of discussion here.

The point here is that when exploitation gets (or might get) to the
point of extinction then it becomes very much part of a discussion
such as this.

Sanjoy Ghosh
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From: virdee@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jagdeep Singh Virdee)
Newsgroups: wpi.students.desis,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Can someone help me please?
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:44:19 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1bdemhINNecc@bigboote.WPI.EDU> sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki) writes:
>
>can someone help me with some suggestions as to how to live with ajay
>khanna? 

	It's very simple..............DON'T!!

p.s.:maybe one of his 'contacts' may be able to help you.
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From: deepak@konark.njit.edu (Albatross)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Can a girl and a guy be just friends
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:35:57 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <Bw2DAn.GIo@ecf.toronto.edu> srini@ecf.toronto.edu (KANDALA SRINIVAS) writes:
>In article <71046@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt9911a@prism.gatech.EDU :-)) (SMILE :-) writes:
>

>

>srini
>Blue Jays: 1992 World Champions 

Maybe you also have to quote "Best Friends" (Burt Reynolds, Goldie Hawn)

The Final personal opinion on the subject is, "yes a guy & a girl can be
just friends. But it has one problem associated with it & that is
society does not seem to comprehend it that way. But If you dont care
about it you can go about being just friends with whoever you want."


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma)
Subject: Re: HINDU-PERSON, BRAHMIN-PERSON, VEDIC-PERSON, PERSON-PERSON
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 13 OCT 92 08:49:23    


In article <1bdcb4INNmn1@gap.caltech.edu>, 
kanga.caltech.edu!vidya (Vidyasankar Sundaresan) writes...

>The philosophical aspect should more appropriately be considered Vedantic  
>rather than Vedic. There is a difference between Veda (which is more  
>ritualistic => symbolic) and Vedanta (which is truly philosophical). 

	Vedanta is no different than Vedas. Vedanta is made up of two
	words Veda + anta which simply means end of the vedas or the
	conclusion of vedas. I differ with those who regard all six
	philosophical system of Hinduism as independent and in contradiction
	with each other. One can never understand Hinduism or the Vedas
	if one has this attitude or mentality. Even Buddism and Jainism
	cannot be studied without the knowledge of Vedas.
> 
>Again, Vedic ritual can also be practised without any reasoning, and need  
>not be philosophical.
> 
	In fact Brahmanas portion of the Vedas is not philosophical and
	is what I was talking about as externals of Hinduism. So Vedas
	are like a mine of knowledge (internal and spiritual) and religious
	(external and symbolical) out of which all thoughts and actions
	emanate. Gita, Upanishads, Sankhya, Yoga, Vishaisha, Nyaya, 
	Mimansa, and Vedanta are such thoughts. Purana and the two epics
	are the actions.

>- The problem is that there are too many pundits who claim to have  
>acquired
>- knowledge. There is no way to find what is wrong and what is right.
>- This is called brahminism. 
>- 
> 
>I beg to differ. The problem today is not that too many "pundits" claim to  
>have gained knowledge, but that there are not enough pundits who have  
>acquired knowledge. 

	What is the difference? The real knowledge bearers are not interested
	in the materialistic objects. I witnessed an incantation of
	extracting a tooth. The guy did not do this service for money
	otherwise he would loose the power of incantation. Misuse of
	the knowledge by the wicked is the real fear of 'real' knowledge 
	bearers.

>If the likes of the people who post on this group  
>(including me) are to be considered pundits in any sense, God help  
>Hinduism/Brahminism/whatever you want to call it. Not being able to find  
>out what is right and what is wrong is not Brahminism. 

	I am referring to astrologers and half tought Hindus. My observation
	is that when knowledge is put to use and it works, the practioners
	loose sight of its reasoning and start concentrating on materialistic
	objects (like money and wealth). The focus is not the knowledge
	but wealth. That is exactly what happened to Brahmins of India in
	post Mahabharat period. They forgot astronomy and remembered
	astrology. Because astrology fetched them wealth.
> 
>Brahminism is just a myth - a favourite dead horse which continues to get  
>flogged just because the floggers have nothing better to do in life. 
> 

	It is not myth. It is reality. Present form of science will be
	followed by Brahminism if people become too greedy and indifferent
	to human cause.

-- Virendra
From: scsd1553@altair.selu.edu (Ravi Kallianpur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Books/Magazines in Indian languages - info needed
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:04:29 -0600
Reply-To: RAVI@SELU.EDU
Organization: C.I.S.S., Southeastern La. University

Hi guys,

	 I am looking for stores/outlets selling reading material in Indian
regional languages, specifically in Kannada.  My parents are visiting me and
watching T.V. can go only so far.  :-)

	If some one could point out some stores in the New Orleans, Baton Rouge
area, I would greatly appreciate it.  Suggestions for places to take them to
would also be deeply appreciated.  Thanks. 
       __________________________________________________                      
        Ravi Kallianpur	       		                                       
        Southeastern Louisiana Univ.  
        BITNET :    ravi@slu    Internet :  ravi@selu.edu
From: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: Immediate job opening for a C programmer
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:55:39 GMT
Reply-To: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In article <1992Oct12.144410.10728@unlinfo.unl.edu>, shiva@cse.unl.edu (V. Sivaramakrishnan) writes:
|> There is an immediate opening for a person with a 
|> good knowledge of C and OS2 presentation manager.
|> 

	drat! thats "C"! i thought it was "E" and we had just the person
	you wanted! well bad luck...

	peace,

	- ravi

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From: sivabala@ohm.ee.washington.edu ( Siva Bala Narayanan 9027936 )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Translation of Kannada Short Story
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:18:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct15.021814.3468
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I remember reading the translation of a kannada short story in the net.
It was about a person going to an 'untouchable' eye doctor and repenting
it later. Can someone e-mail me a copy of the story?

Thanks in advance

Siva
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: SOME DOKI JOKES
Date: 7 Oct 1992 19:42:10 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu
Keywords: jokes

jayaram anand said:

>what's worse than people who are kidding ?
>People who are not sure whether they are kidding or not .
>P.S. I am not kidding. Really.
>J Anand.


hey why don't you give up?


its high time you do it.



suresh



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.usa,rec.humor
From: roelle@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Curtis Roelle)
Subject: Re: FBI-seized cars ---- worth buying ?
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: usa
Date:  9 Oct 92 19:46:58 GMT

harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.014615.21375@usl.edu>, sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG) writes:
>> I have come across ads here in which the advertiser offers to
>> sell "FBI/US seized cars" at very low prices (sometimes
>> starting at $ 25 (yes, $ 25 !)). I am sure at least some
>> of you would have seen similar ads.
>>
>> 1. Is there any "catch" in such offers ?

>Just watch out for the ones with the crack between the seats.  :-}

Obtaining a vehicle this way could really pay off in the long run.
When the police spot that roach in the ashtray or whatever stash might
be uncovered, the owner's defense is automatic: 

"What can I say?  The D.E.A. sold me this here car.  I dunno, maybe
their K-9 had a cold or something."

CWR
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kxg5947@usl.edu (Guruswamy Kowsik)
Subject: Info on architecture
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:11:23 GMT

Hi netters,
  I know this is going to be the wrong group for such a question. I checked
up the .newsrc file for any groups on architecture and couldn't find any.
This posting is actually for my friend in India who is doing his B. Arch
course. His thesis is 'FILM CITY' and he wants me to send him some
information on design of studios, and other design info' needed for the
same. Is there anyone in Hollywood or any other place where I can get the
info'? I would appreciate any pointers to this. Please email me the
information.

Thanx in advance,
Delta.

email : delta@usl.edu
phone : (318)-233-5373

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mmurali@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Man from Mohenjo Daro)
Subject: INDIA-D/INDIA-l/INN Info
Organization: Lion City
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:04:59 GMT


Someone asked how he could get into INDIA-D and so on.
Here is the info for other interested party on SCI


    =================================================================
    Subscription Requests to       :  add@andy.bgsu.edu
          Provide one line message :  add India-D user@host full name
          To subscribe to INN only :  add India-L user@host full name
 
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          Provide one line message :  del India-D user@host (global
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    Discussion Digest Contributions:  editor@andy.bgsu.edu
    News Digest Contributions      :  India-news@andy.bgsu.edu
    Looking for Requests           :  looking@andy.bgsu.edu
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    Digest (INN) are the publications of the India Interest Group. All
    members of the  INDIA-D and  INDIA-L (Listserv  names) will  get a
    copy of the INN. The INDIA-D  Digest will be  sent to the  INDIA-D
    members only. Membership in these groups is open to all.
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From: sngattan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The Almighty)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Center for Peace studies at CORNELL?
Date: 10 Oct 1992 16:07:38 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Hello:

	I am posting this for a friend of mine who does not have access
to this net.

	He is interested in doing a PhD at CORNELL in the International
Studies Department.....the area being CENTER FOR PEACE STUDIES.  Can 
someone from CORNELL give me some information along these lines.  Any
help will be appreciated.  Thanks a lot in advance.  Bye

							sanjay

PS:  Send your response to sngattan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.korean
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Subject: Re: INTERNET IN ASIA/INDIA.
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:09:16 GMT

bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
 >Its a great set of articles on email, that is sure.  I highly
 >recommend it to everyone.  However, I was a bit disappointed that
 >their colored map (that told a country's degree of international
 >email connectivity) didn't distinguish between countries that have
 >the internet and those that have only bitnet or whatever.  It
 >makes it a *lot* easier to disseminate and find information with
 >the reliable and direct connections.  Not to mention the improved
 >email delivery times and reliability.

Here is my data for Usenet participation (last 2 weeks) for Asian
region countries.  They are sorted by per capita Usenet access. (^_^)

 
Usenet countries data for Thu 15 Oct 1992 (08:13:02 AM)
Checking 97307 articles in:
alt	 comp	  fido	   junk	    news     sci      soc      talk
bionet	 control  gnu	   misc	    rec
 
                + Total # of articles
                |        + Total # articles as a percentage of the whole net
                |        |          + Total # of unique posters
                |        |          |       + How many don't have net access
                |        |          |       | for every one that does
                |        |          |       |          + Percentage of the
                |        |          |       |          | population with
                |        |          |       |          | net access
                |        |          |       |          |
country         articles %of net    posters others     %of population
---------------------------------------------------------------------
 
New-Zealand     688      0.707%     212     14150      0.00707% 
Australian      2991     3.074%     1053    16144      0.00619% 
Singaporean     247      0.254%     82      108292     0.00092% 
Israeli         68       0.070%     27      148148     0.00067% 
Hongkong        23       0.024%     13      453846     0.00022% 
Taiwanese       59       0.061%     37      559459     0.00018% 
Japanese        140      0.144%     55      2181818    0.00005% 
South-Korean    7        0.007%     5       8620000    0.00001% 
Thai            3        0.003%     2       10000000   0.00001% 
Malaysian       2        0.002%     2       20000000   0.00000% 
Indian          12       0.012%     7       114285714  0.00000% 
 
 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Eve Teasing etc. (was Re: More About India)
Keywords: ---------------------------------------------------------------- NOTE: I am "Prem". There is a different poster called "PremKumar"  I mentioned this because I got an e-mail in which the sender  flamed _me_ in reference to PremKumar's article. ------------
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:07:08 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717

Well said Prem. This is what I am also saying. But people just "react" before
thinking. People have assumed that I said so many things whereas all I said 
was don't critisize India to the extent of saying "India is the worst place
for women to live" and USA is the best.

This particular attitude is exhibited by many Indians in the US on all aspects
like politics, cinema, sports etc. etc. I resent this particular type of 
attitude where people simply criticize all the time what is wrong in India
doing nothing/done nothing do improve the conditions.

Sincerely yours,
M.P.Premkumar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bhat@cs.columbia.edu (Dinkar Bhat)
Subject: Re: NARMADA - WB defers decision till ...
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:51:21 GMT

In article <seos65600WB3A1UEgh@andrew.cmu.edu> Sudha Neelakantan <sudha+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>hemant@ihlpa.att.com (Hemant B Bhatt) writes:
>> My parents were farmers in India. They depended upon and still
>> all the farmers do depend upon rain for farming. There are wells
>> but have to pay heavy price for the water and electricity is
>> rationed everyday. I know people need water & electricity. So
>> stop meddling with progress of India by raising some meaningless
>> issues.
>
>I did *NOT* say stop technology,
>i did say that you should consider appropriate technology.
>the solution may be to look towards smaller dams that don't hve as
>much of an impact on the ecology and do not displace so many people
>etc.  would your blind acceptance of this still be the same if it was
>your parents being displaced?

I oppose the dam, but somebody recently pointed out a fact which struck
me. Suppose the dam plan is withdrawn and tribals do get to stay in
their homes. Activists will withdraw and then what? The government will
never again think of that area. I think if we can give a strong
backup plan after the project is withdrawn, it looks more practical to
oppose the dam.

Dinkar.

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