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From: nick.waanders@med.umich.edu (Nick Waanders)
Subject: Background Apps and IP Numbers
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 02:11:21 EST
Organization: University of Michigan
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard

I finally did it!!!  With the click of a single button, I can make a telnet
connection from local talk to ethernet to the engineering workstations,
call up a data file, create an image, send the image back to hypercard via
ftp (from the sun to the mac), and display it using the picture command. 
This means I have all the pieces for an important (at least in my lab) 3d
imaging application.  However, to make the stack useful on other machines
and to less inclined users, I need two things:

(1) The image file transfer to the mac requires that an ftp server be
running on the mac. What I need is to have my stack check to see if the ftp
application is running.  Is there an XFCN to provide a list of applications
running, including applications in the background?  I tried one that came
in a set of XFCNS/XCMDS called Apple Support Tools, but it was old and did
not work correclty.  Any suggestions?.

(2)  To make the ftp connection from the sun to the mac, I need to know the
IP number for the mac.  Our network is set up to have the server assign IP
numbers at startup and I can find my number by opening up MacTCP.  However,
it would be much better, if there were an XFCN which would return this
number without user intervention.  Any XFCN's for getting the IP number?

Thanks for any help!

Nick Waanders
Orthopaedic Research Labs
University of Michigan
From: mb1f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Berkenpas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: What is WindowCraft?
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:49:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.keyI_ZK00WAL81rHZW
Organization: Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I received a glossy in the mail yesterday for a Hypercard to Windows
conversion program called WindowCraft. They claim they can convert
Hypercard 2.1 stacks to a WindowCraft program (a Windows application).
They state their scripting language is a superset of Hyperscript. They
claim extremely high conversion success with few unresolved errors. 

Has anyone heard of this product or used it? The product sounds much
better than Plus (which cannot convert Hypercard 2 stacks) and ToolBook
(which is primitive and must be compiled). They offer the world in their
ad.


Mike Berkenpas
Research Engineer
Environmental Institute,
Engineering and Public Policy
Baker Hall 128C
Office: 268-6115
From: konrad@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Konrad Michalski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: XCMD - CopyFile
Keywords: XCMD
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:02:54 GMT

I am looking for XCMD function "CopyFile" to be used with Authorware.

I would apperciate if somebody pointed me to an existing stack with this
function. As far as I know it is in the "Developer Stack" but I don't
have it, and there must be other people who have written it.

The best would be an access via "ftp".

Konrad
From: tcowen@clark.edu (Toni K. Cowen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Hypercard for the PC ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:32:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Nov9.163202.2284
Distribution: usa
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA


I hope this is not a blasphemous question for this group, but
I read an article several months ago about a hypercard-like product
that runs on the PC and can import hypercard stacks from the mac.

I lost the article.  Now it happens that one of our divisions on campus
that is equally divided between macs and pcs would like to be able to
port hypercard stacks back and forth.  Does anyone remember the article
or have any suggestions.  Any experience with such a product?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

--Toni Cowen 


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From: 2db5schraba@vms.csd.mu.edu (Aaron Schrab)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: pop-up menus
Date: 13 Nov 1992 20:34:20 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2db5schraba@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

Is there any way to do pop-up menus in hypercard, either with an XCMD or some
fancy scripting?

Please respond via email or posting.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Nitro of Terra Nova <Frodet@sofus.dhhalden.no>
Subject: XCMD FOR PLAYING .MOD IN HYPERCARD
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A71FEAED470121F9@pc249.dhhalden.no>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 6 Nov 92 09:27:09 GMT
Organization: ODH
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:26:46 GMT

HEEELP, IS THERE ANYONE THAT HAS A XCMD, OR KNOWS ABOUT A XCMD THAT PLAYS
.MOD MUSIC FILES IN HYPERCARD!!!!

PLEASE E-MAIL ME, I'M DESPERAT!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 15:45:19 CST
From: Theodore Stresen-Reuter <U42075@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: com Problem with vis effect under buttons

In article <92314.125818U42075@uicvm.uic.edu>, Theodore Stresen-Reuter
<U42075@uicvm.uic.edu> says:
>
>Hello networld,
>I have been having a problem getting the vis effect to work under
>certain buttons (most).  It is as though it ignored the command
>altogether and just used the default effect.  In particular this happens
>when I am hiding and showing fields.  The strange part is that it is
>inconsistant.

I found the problem.  If you'll recall, I was asking that a button
respond with a certain effect on unlock screen.  Well, it turns out that
on my machine (LC 10/80, 12" color monitor set to thousands of colors)
when the monitor is set to thousands of colors, HC does not execute some
screen commands: unlock screen with (whatever) is overridden and
scrolling in fields set to scroll is very slow.

Whereas when the monitor is set to 256 colors or B & W, no problem, all
works as it should.  After further testing, it seems that the only time
it has problems is when in the thousands of colors mode, color or greys.

     Theodore Stresen-Reuter
     u42075@uicvm.cc.uic.edu
     Interactive design enthusiast and Spanish teacher

P.S. Unlock screen still works but the visual effect part is what's
overridden.
From: David_Greg_Herlihy@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Word 5.1 & AppleEvents
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 92 17:37:40 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Does anyone know if Word 5.1 supports AppleEvents?  I got literature
saying it supports "system 7 features", but that's a little vague.  Thanks.
--David
From: Roger.W.Brown@dartmouth.edu (Roger W. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: external window probs
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:16:10 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0b1@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <cey3rKG00iV0M5y18i@andrew.cmu.edu>
"George J. Baxter" <gb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>   test = &((XWEventInfoPtr)(paramPtr->params[1]))->event;

When working in C, params are zero-based. What you want is

test = &((XWEventInfoPtr)(paramPtr->params[0]))->event;
                                           ^
                                          
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Roger Brown                                roger.brown@dartmouth.edu
Software Development
Kiewit Computation Center, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: quicktime and hypercard
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:04:31 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <17208@mindlink.bc.ca>, John_Miller@mindlink.bc.ca (John Miller) writes:
>
> EnterMovies/ExitMovies are documented to setup/dispose private
> state information for the Movie Toolbox.  The problem I have
> is that the Movie Toolbox Q&A says that multiple calls to
> EnterMovies -- rather than incrementing a usage counter
> for the QuickTime world associated with that A5 world --
> allocates and sets up a new QuickTime world.

I checked it. I set A-trap breakpoints on the EnterMovies and ExitMovies
calls with MacsBug, and checked the application heap immediately before
and after each call. I did three EnterMovies calls, followed by three
ExitMovies calls, using my HyperCard Movie Utilities externals. Here are the
results:

  * First EnterMovies call: 64 bytes of non-relocatable storage allocated.
  * Second EnterMovies call: no change to heap allocated/free space.
  * Third EnterMovies call: no change to heap allocated/free space.
  * First ExitMovies call: again no change.
  * Second ExitMovies call: nope, still no change.
  * Third ExitMovies call: 64 bytes of non-relocatable storage freed.

I would say, that, regardless of the official pronouncements on the matter,
the Movie Toolbox is indeed behaving sensibly. :-)

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+13:00
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: avlb@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (A V Louis Biggie)
Subject: Compressed Sounds
Reply-To: avlb@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (A V Louis Biggie)
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:15:30 GMT

Under System 6.x, I used to use the FPLAY command that (I think) shipped with 
Farrallon's MacRecorder to play compressed sounds.  When I try to do this 
under system 7.0 (tuned up), it is very unstable.  Is there any solution 
apart from playing the sound uncompressed?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Distribution: world
From: Stefan_Karos@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:26:22 EST
Subject: Re: Word 5.1 & AppleEvents

This is such a common PROBLEM. Knowing the IDs for the supported events by each
app. Everyone says its in the manuals for the app but truly i think that
appleEvents are an idea whose time has not yet come.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: tonym@netwise.com (Tony Miller)
Subject: XCMDs and global/static data - help
Organization: Netwise Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:40:12 GMT

I have a Mac application developed with MPW C that I would like to
make accessible through HyperCard.  However, the code contains quite a
bit of global and static data, and apparently neither is allowed in an
XCMD.  I was wondering about the feasibility of squirreling this data
away somewhere in memory accessible to my XCMD, maybe in an INIT.  Has
anyone done anything similar?  I would appreciate any advice or
suggestions.  My Mac experience is limited and my HyperCard experience
is nil, so be as detailed as you want.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: jpugh@apple.com (Jon Pugh)
Subject: Re: User-defined functions
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:47:01 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hypercard

In article <Bx733H.GM7@cmcl2.nyu.edu>, jeff@cns.nyu.edu (Jeff Fookson)
wrote:
> 
> As a new hypercard scripter I have noticed that user-defined function 
> definitions seem to need to specify an arguement, even if unused. Thus
> 
> function foo
> code
> end foo
> 
> gets an unrecognized keyword when called
> 
> function foo dummy
> code
> end foo
> 
> does not.
> Is that so?
> 
> Also, must a function explicately return something?
> Can a function be invoked without grabbing the return somewhere? (That also
> seems to get an `undefined'. Can one `do' a function?

The trick is that you have to call functions like foo() or foo(dummy).  The
parens indicate that it is a function.  This is also true for XFCNs.  You
can call handlers and XCMDs with or without parens.

You should always return something in a function, otherwise you should
write a handler.  You don't have to use the return result, but you do have
to account for it.  Since parens CAN be used on handlers and XCMDs, the
return result is used to differenciate between them.  If you include a
return statement, your function always has the value of empty.

Jon
From: fwb@siemens.com. (Frederic W. Brehm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Hiding the menubar
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:05:50 GMT

Aaron_S._Friedman@bmug.org writes:
>Is there a script I can put into a stack that hides the menubar ONLY if the
>screen is 9"?

My favorite solution is:

	on openStack -- or your favorite handler
	  -- other stuff
	  if (rect of card window >= the screenrect) then hide menuBar
	  -- more other stuff
	end openStack

But if you substitute (the screenrect = "0,0,342,512") for the "if"
condition then it will meet your specification exactly. You better check
those numbers "342,512", though. I'm not positive they are correct.

Fred
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From: jstern@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: AutoGuest
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:50:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

I'm looking for a way to bypass the dialog box that asks for a password
when you're linking to another Mac's HyperCard. (All Macs in my classroom
are set for Guest Access)

Jon Pugh suggested AutoGuest:
>There is a hack called AutoGuest which will eliminate the dialog if you
>have Guest access enabled.  This is a mondo skanky hack and Guest access is
>dangerous, so I don't really recommend it, but if you have ideal conditions
>you can easily make good use of it.

But he doesn't know where to find it. Does anybody out there have it,
know where to find it, or know of another solution?

Thanks,
Judy Stern
jstern@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: avlb@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (A V Louis Biggie)
Subject: Closing the Finder
Reply-To: avlb@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (A V Louis Biggie)
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:48:30 GMT


I am writing a Hypercard stack for students to run under System 7.  Its 
purpose is to allow them to access applications while preventing them from 
messing with the desktop.  (I know about At Ease, but the school district 
cannot afford it!)  Closing the finder does the trick, but has the drawback 
of disabling DA's - in particular, the Chooser and the Scrapbook are needed.  
I would be grateful for ideas on how to achieve the general objective of 
locking the kids out of the desktop, but allowing them access to DA's.  Would 
starting the DA's before closing the finder help?  Also, what could one do to 
prevent those DA's from being closed and becoming unavailable.

Louis


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: demerit@vms.macc.wisc.edu (J. DeMerit)
Subject: ==> EDUCATIONAL SOFTWARE - THE SCIENCES
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  5 NOV 92 11:20:12    

Come On Folks, I need some opinions.

1.  How do you think hypercard presents science material to the different 
levels of users -- meaning presentation -- to high school versus college.  I 
envision running only on classics and the like.  Graphics and scans don't look 
so hot, eh?

2.  What do you consider the best and simpliest animation program to use.  If 
one is not an artist is it still managable?

3.  What are some of the ways to control videodiscs, vcrs and any other 
externals.

4.  Can anyone help with journals, societies, conferences, etc. on using 
hypercard to develop educational software?

5.  Any other info you think I might need?

Thanks in advance, Either post here or email.

Mr. Darrell Anderson, I'm hoping for some series discussion here from you 
because I've noticed you post here almost daily.  Thanks again.

Regards, Catherine
         demerit@macc.wisc.edu
From: jbell@garnet.berkeley.edu (John E. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: What is WindowCraft?
Date: 7 Nov 1992 05:31:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu


WindowCraft does permit conversion of HyperCard 2.1 stacks into Windows 3.1
applications. THe scripting language is very similar to HyperTalk (mostly
identical) except for:
  - some missing aspects including: "there is a", grouped text, character
    styles within a text field
  - many bugs including: a string length problem which adds garbage to the
    end of text fields durin gthe conversion and prohibits the use of
    'char last of x' type references and affects other character references
  - some changes such as: it implements multiple windows in a stack instead
    of allowing multiple stacks to run together (except as separate applications)

The folks at WindowCraft have been very helpful in finding workarounds for
most of the problems I've run into. However, much of my task in conversion
is trying to identify what their bugs are and how I can work around them.
In short, given that I needed a conversion of HyperCard on Windows right
away, I'm thankful for WIndowCraft. If I could have waited, however, I
would much rather have used a newer release (nothing has been announced).

- John E. Bell
From: demerit@vms.macc.wisc.edu (J. DeMerit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
Subject: Re: Report Printing Package
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:35:40 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Nov6.162356.15788@newshost.lanl.gov>, davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons) writes...

> 
>I read here a while ago about about an external package to extend the
>report-printing capabilities (if you call them that) of HyperCard, but
>I never saved the information. (When will I learn.  I might as well
>just archive about 95% of what goes on here, since I am forever seeing
>something, passing it by, and then having to ask about it later.)
> 

There is a package called Reports 2.1 made by:
       Nine to Five Software
       PO Box 18899
       Boulder, CO 80308
       Tel: 303-443-4104 (Tech Support 303-443-9713)

They make a couple packages that extend hypercard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: Andrew.Brennan@launchpad.unc.edu (Andrew Brennan)
Subject: Hypercard and servers ...
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:18:59 GMT

      re: what am I doing with HC & the server?

      Sheer simplicity - so I thought.  I have a LARGE (18M) CAI/CBL
   package that my site is effectively beta-testing *during* it's 
   development.  Recent additions (about 8.4M) have included a stack
   of sound resources (4.8M) and a number of PICT files.  Since the 
   majority of the machines in the lab don't have enough space to 
   locally load this system, it made a LOT of sense to put this on
   the server - no?

      The sounds access fine - I ran into a hitch with the memory
   size on the stations being low, but 1500 appears to clear that up.
   The problem is the PICTs - I can copy the stack *from*the*server*
   that calls the PICTs, launch HC, open the stack ... and it works
   FINE!  But, since the package uses a HC front-end to copy stacks 
   from the server ... the stack is opened, the sounds load fine and
   the PICTs cause "No such window."

      I recently got it working by copying all of the PICTs to the
   local stations (as well as the front-end and select modules) -
   now the front-end copies the PICT-calling stack from the server,
   the stack loads the PICTs (from the local drive) and everything
   is simply peachy.

      Why am I complaining still?  Because my "fix" is stupid!  All
   I did was change the paths of the PICTs and copy them locally -
   nothing more!  This being the case, I'm stuck with 12 PICTs on
   every machine - when they are only needed in ONE specific stack.

      I'm toying with the idea of making them all PICT resources 
   and adding them to the stack of sound resources ... but I'm very
   perturbed that it didn't work the way I "understood" it should 
   work.  Oh well - that's what keeps life interesting ...

      Andrew.Brennan@bbs.oit.unc.edu
      (brennan@hal.hahnemann.edu)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: emp@xgml.com (Eric Promislow)
Subject: Where to get ToolBook info
Organization: Exoterica Corporation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:47:32 GMT


I received two responses to my query.  Both were helpful.  The first
responder asked me to let him know if I found out anything, and the
second gave me the info I wanted.  Assuming the first guy wasn't
alone, I'm passing on the info to anyone else who's interested.

There is no USENET group, but there is a ToolBook mailing-list.  To
sign up, do something like:

% echo 'SUB TOOLB-L <first name> <last name>' | mail listserv@uafsysb.bitnet

  You'll soon receive a message from the list server telling you how
to use it, especially how to leave it.  By the way, don't put quotes
around your name, as LISTSERV treats them as part of your name.
Sorry, I don't know how it handles names like "E. Buzz Miller".

  We now return you to your regularly scheduled HyperCard news group...
-- 
-- Eric Promislow--emp@xgml.com--Exoterica Corporation, Ottawa, Ontario
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: demerit@vms.macc.wisc.edu (J. DeMerit)
Subject: Re: Resizing stacks
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 12 NOV 92 15:19:47    

In article <1992Nov11.232205.11453@erg.sri.com>, marie@paris.erg.sri.com (Marie desJardins) writes...

>I'm trying to resize a Hypercard stack (using the Resize...
>dialog under the Stack Info. menu item).  There seems to be
>a maximum area that's allows -- if I try to drag the corner
>beyond a 600x600 square, it won't increase the size.  (I can
>make it wider than this, but then it gets shorter.)  Is there
>a built-in limit, or a way to circumvent the limit?
> 
>I'm running Hypercard 2.1 on a Mac II with a big (19"?) screen,
>and I'd like to be able to fill (more or less) the whole screen.
> 
I believe that if your memory allocation (under get info from the desktop) is 
too low it restricts the size of the card.  Increase the memory in the lower 
right hand corner of the get info on HyperCard.

I hope that helps.  It was a problem I had in getting a small card to increase 
to a 13" screen size. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard
From: antjcb@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (J.C.Burns)
Subject: Re: Word 5.1 & AppleEvents
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:37:13 GMT

jpugh@apple.com (Jon Pugh) writes:

>In article <69071@cup.portal.com>, David_Greg_Herlihy@cup.portal.com wrote:
>> 
>> Does anyone know if Word 5.1 supports AppleEvents?  I got literature
>> saying it supports "system 7 features", but that's a little vague.  Thanks.

>It doesn't.

>Jon
This is increasingly disturbing. When I upgrade Word, am I, each time,
getting a promogram that is more and more Windows and less and less
Macintosh?

--jcburns
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hypercard