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From: msolda@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (M Solda)
Subject: Re: multiple EXISTS subqueries under Sybase 4.8
Keywords: EXISTS, 4.8, sun4, sunos 4.1.1
Reply-To: msolda@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:44:35 GMT

In article <1ee852INN90m@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Nov16.184540.11698@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu>, msolda@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (M Solda) writes:
> |> > Ummmmmmm, if you're still working on it, could you post the example
> |> > code?  I'm not quite following this.
> |> > 
> |> 
> |> okay, here it is:
> |> 
> 
> <UNIONed EXISTS and NOT EXISTS code deleted>
> 
> *blush* I should've said "post the original problem code", i.e., 
> not the union version . . . 

here is the query that would not work:


   select last_name, first_name, salary, title
   from employee_id i1, salary_history s1, employee_status e1
   where (
             (exists (select *
                      from salary_history
                      where ss_num = s1.ss_num
                         and comment = 'Employment'
                         and salary_scope_begin <= '9/1/2'
                         and salary_scope_begin > (select max(status_begin)
                                                   from employee_status
                                                   where status_begin < '9/1/2'
                                                      and ss_num = s1.ss_num)))
          or
             (not exists (select *
                          from employee_status
                          where status_begin < '9/1/2'
                             and ss_num = s1.ss_num))
          )
      and salary_scope_begin = (select max(salary_scope_begin)
                                from salary_history
                                where ss_num = s1.ss_num
                                   and salary_scope_begin <= '9/1/2')
      and employee_id.ss_num = salary_history.ss_num
      and employee_id.ss_num = employee_status.ss_num
      and status_begin is NULL
      and title_effective_date = (select max(title_effective_date)
                                  from employee_status
                                  where title_effective_date <= '9/1/2'
                                     and ss_num = s1.ss_num)
   order by title, last_name
   compute avg(salary), count(title) by title
   compute avg(salary), count(title)

msolda
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Re: APT and TEXT Fields
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:26:16 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Nov17.185830.1520@bnlux1.bnl.gov>, lally@pmdb.sep.bnl.gov (Keith Lally) writes:
|> 
|> Mark,
|> 
|> I am referring to fields of the TEXT data type.  Some of my help messages
|> will exceed 255 bytes so char and varchar are no help.  An entry field on
|> the form can have a maximum length of 2048 chars or more but how do I 
|> retrieve the TEXT data and stuff it into the entry field?  One way is to
|> have the stored procedure read the first 255 bytes of the text, put it into
|> parameter1 of type char, then read the next 255 bytes and stuff it into 
|> another parameter.  On the APT side I could then concatenate the params
|> together and put the result in the entry field.  This seems like a real
|> kludgy way to do what should be an easy operation. 

I haven't had a reason to deal with TEXT . . . :-(

I know this may not help either . . . . buttttttttttttt .. . . . 

Does your text have to be stored as TEXT? . . . 

Cut the text up into 255 character blocks, store in a table with each
255 block having a sequence number assigned to it, use a sqlrow to
select the text in sequence number order, step through the sqlrow 
appending each subsequent 255 block to your entry field.  NOTE: Appending
to the end of a field takes more time than appending on the front of
the field(just an extra $0.02 worth), but you will probably only notice
this if you're appending say, 20+ chunks?
 
|> 
|> I also remember reading in one of the manuals that parameters passed between
|> the server and an apt application can only be 255 chars in length.  Has 
|> anyone else had experience with this kind of problem?

Haven't had to deal with this problem . . . .I do know that in APT 4.?
that there's a 512 character limitation in the lengths of parameters
passed between APT screens(suppose to be fixed in APT 5.0).  But I 
don't know about the problems between server and APT.

Mark
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Re: multiple EXISTS subqueries under Sybase 4.8
Date: 18 Nov 1992 20:13:22 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
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Keywords: EXISTS, 4.8, sun4, sunos 4.1.1
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Nov16.184540.11698@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu>, msolda@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (M Solda) writes:
|> > Ummmmmmm, if you're still working on it, could you post the example
|> > code?  I'm not quite following this.
|> > 
|> 
|> okay, here it is:
|> 

<UNIONed EXISTS and NOT EXISTS code deleted>

*blush* I should've said "post the original problem code", i.e., 
not the union version . . . 

oh well . . .my fault . . 

Mark "Is Friday here . . . YET!?!?!?!" Parsons

Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
From: kurdelsk@sunsrv1.awi-bremerhaven.de
Subject: UNIX (SUN) clients connected to VAX (DECNet)
Organization: Alfred-Wegener-Institute for Polar and Marine Research
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:42:03 GMT

Hello,

we are using SYBASE on a VAX and want to connect clients on a SUN. The
only problem now is we cannot use Wollongong TCP/IP software. We are restricted to use UCX on the VAX. Therefore we are looking for a solution like a DECNet-TCP/IP gateway on a Ultrix DECstation or something else. We heard about some solution at NatSemi, USA, and Texaco, UK. It would be nice to get some information and contact persons on this topic.

Thank you

Lutz-Peter
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Re: Sybase training courses
Date: 19 Nov 1992 15:24:02 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
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In article <1992Nov18.223215.24196@shearson.com>, aberkson@mbsdev41.shearson.com (Alan Berkson) writes:
|> In article <1dmc7gINN1vl@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
|> |> As for the classes they offer, I suggest you call their education
|> |> dept at 1-510-596-4501(Emeryville, CA) and ask for their current
|>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> This is their fax number. 510-596-4567 might be more useful.

Thanks for the correction! ;-) 

Mark
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Re: Omnis7 with SQL and Sybase/Oracle
Date: 16 Nov 1992 15:23:47 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
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In article <1992Nov13.122853.17508@alf.uib.no>, Ronny G. Nordvik <nordvik@edb.uib.no> writes:
|> OMNIS 7 WITH SQL DATABASE - SYBASE OR ORACLE
|> 
|> 
|> I want information about Record Locking on rows and tables for
|> updating.... in a multiuser Omnis apllication, because we don't want
|> problems with many persons updating the same record(row). In Omnis i want
|> to lock the record(row) begfore I go into enter data mode, and release
|> the record lock when leaving enter data mode.
|>

Ummmmmm, don't have the foggiest idea what OMNIS 7 is but . . . 

I posted this earlier . . hope it helps. . . . 

We needed a way to lock records(one at a time) while a user had
it open(could be open for 1 minute, 1 hour, 1 day, etc).  Sybase's
method of locking would not cover this situation(I didn't want
to lock an entire table, or even several pages PLUS the user really
isn't doing an update . . . he's reading the data into a front end
screen, modifying, and then re-writing to the database).

Anyway, I added a column to my main tables which would be set
to NULL if no one was using that particular record, and set to the
ID of the user who *did* have it open.  In order to insure(?)
uniqueness in the locking scheme, I duplicated the logic from the
white paper on sequential key generation(same idea as updating the
master key table).

This will only work as long as everyone accessing the database
goes through the front-end.  The front-end takes care of all the
logic involved in locking, unlocking, and checking for locks.  Also,
a procedure was implemented which fires at specific times during the
day to unlock those documents which may have been left locked when
a user decided to ABORT(^C) out of the front-end, i.e., killed the
front-end process.

Questions? Comments?  Make sense?

Mark
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Re: "Select" from one server to ther other server
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:14:23 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
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In article <463@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP>, tosma@ub-tky.ubspd.co.jp (TOSMA-GUEST) writes:
|> 
|> 					18 Nov 1992
|> 
|> 	Dear sybase guru:

*Cough* Hmmmmmmmmm . . . Yeeeeeeesssssssssssss????!!!! ;-)

|> 	I am looking for the the way to do 
|> 	"select * from table where some condition" in a database in A-server,
|> 	 ^^^^^               ^^^^^
|> 	then transfer the data into a different database in B-server.
|> 	Is there any way to do this kind of things without using 
|> 	Open-client Library???

Hmmmmmmmm, I don't know of any way to directly select from server A
to server B.  

|> 	Any suggestion will be appreciated.

Well, how about this . . . 

When doing your select, select the data into a table.  Have an
insert trigger on that table which calls a stored procedure on
server B(the other server) which inserts the data there.

Of course, this will cause a lot of traffic on the net if you're
doing a lot of transfers . . .. just something to think about . . 

Mark
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Re: Order of records when inserting
Date: 18 Nov 1992 14:50:48 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
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In article <1992Nov17.185704.9484@ctp.com>, kdomb@ctp.com (Kevin Dombroski) writes:
|> 
|> Is there any guarantee of the order of records after doing several inserts
|> to table, and then doing a "select *" from the table (ie., no "order by")?
|> I've always understood that there can be no guarantee, but I can't find any-
|> thing in the manuals to support/dispute this, and I'm waiting for a call back
|> from Sybase Tech Support. For some reason, I feel like I'll get the answer here
|> faster...
|> 				
|> I'm dealing with data coming from an IBM mainframe, and the arrangement of
|> the returned data must be preserved (I know, I know...at least it's not a
|> punch card system :-). After stuffing it into a temp table, it doesn't
|> appear to preserve the order. Is there some way this can be accomplished?

A couple quick tests seem to indicate that the index used to pull your
data designates the return order(assuming, of course, that you are 
not giving an 'order by' clause).  If the clustered index is used, your
data comes back ordered by the clustered index.  If another index is
used the data comes back ordered that way . . . 

As for the temp table . . . assuming my 'findings' are correct . . you
could put an index on the temp table that would order the info the 
way you want it.

Hey! What'dya expect for $0.02??!! ;-)

Mark

Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
From: aberkson@mbsdev41.shearson.com (Alan Berkson)
Subject: Re: Sybase training courses
Organization: Shearson Lehman Brothers
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:32:15 GMT

In article <1dmc7gINN1vl@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Nov6.153457.13168@jax.org>, csb@jax.org (Carolyn Blake) writes:
|> |> I'm interested in any information on or comments about Sybase
|> |> training courses. I only know of one. Are there others? Are
|> |> they any good? We need both Sys Ad & programming training.
|> |> The 'trainees' have DB experience in Ingres & Informix...
|> 
|> They offer training in Report and APT workbench, Sys Admin,
|> Tuning, Open Client, etc.  I've been through the APT and
|> Sys Admin classes and I can't really complain.  In both cases
|> they have a manual that you follow along in, with lots of
|> examples.
|> 
|> Depending on your 'expertise' with Sybase products, or databases
|> in general, your people may find some of the classes slow . . 
|> or maybe tough . . . just gotta look at the pre-requisites.
|> 
|> As for the classes they offer, I suggest you call their education
|> dept at 1-510-596-4501(Emeryville, CA) and ask for their current
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is their fax number. 510-596-4567 might be more useful.

|> catalog, and dates, of classes.
|> 
|> Mark
|> 

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
   Alan J. Berkson		|
   Database Administrator	|           Lehman Brothers
   (212) 464-3802		|   388 Greenwich Street, 11th Floor	
   aberkson@doozer.shearson.com	|          New York, NY 10013
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: Re: APT rules question
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:12:37 GMT

Larry Martell (larry@st-andy.uucp) writes:
>In APT you can attach rules to fields on your form. When you compile your
>rules, APT pulls the rule down from the server, creates a file with the
>rule source in it (with a name of the form RLnnnnform_name.fpl, where nnnn
>is the number of the field with the rule attached to it), and compiles that
>.fpl into a .fpo.

Just because you can do it, doesn't mean you have to do it. And
the completely akward process also mean that is quite useless.
And is really "The value does not pass the server rule, please
reenter", something you want to shove down the throat of your
users?

The way I see it, rules and triggers are means to protect the
database from programmers' bugs, not to against the user's
erroneous data. Their data should be checked by the application
which is competent to give good error messages which the database
seldom is.

>(It is also a problem if you use SCCS to maintain your
>forms. After the form has been checked in, its modes are 444, and your
>can't save the form.)

Did you try this? At least under version 4, I found it a major
nuisance that APT didn't give a damn about file protection, but
only looked at the directory. (Or rather APT renamed to .frm.old
and created a new file.) So thus, when you thought you were changing
in the form in the working directory, you were actually modifying
the project's common reference copy. Whether this behaviour remains
in V5, I don't recall off-hand, but I have few illusions about APT.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: RE: "Select" from one server to ther other server
Date: 18 Nov 1992 16:56:47 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
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In article <Bxx3zz.IEq@csfb1.fir.fbc.com>, lhall@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (Lawrence Hall) writes:
|> Etsuko Shimabukuro writes :
|> 
|> [ 	I am looking for the the way to do 
|> [	"select * from table where some condition" in a database in A-server,
|> [ 	 ^^^^^               ^^^^^
|> [ 	then transfer the data into a different database in B-server.
|> [	Is there any way to do this kind of things without using 
|> [ 	Open-client Library???
|> 
|> The easiest way to accomplish this inter-server move of data is as follows :
|> 
|> Server A
|> 
|> 	Select * into table-x from table where some condition
|> 
|> bcp database..table-x out x.data -S AServer (appropriate bcp args here)
|> 
|> bcp target_database..table-y in x.data -S BServer ( appropriate bcp args)

Yeah, I was going to suggest the bcp method, too.  But there are two
'bugs'??  Please correct me if I'm wrong . . . .

One:  Using bcp will not allow you to do incremental inserts/transfers, i.e.,
      bcp 'out' will not allow you to select which rows(via a 'where'
      clause) to copy out. Therefore, in a system where you're doing
      incremental inserts/transfers, bcp will pull 'out' more than what
      you want, and insert all of this into the BServer(some/most of 
      which will have been copied in on the last bcp).  Of course,
      if you put your inserts into a (temp) table, and those are the
      only entries in the (temp) table, then the bcp suggestion would 
      work just fine.

Two:  I was assuming that the original poster wanted to do something
      from within the front-end or server, i.e., not have to get out
      into the operating system to access bcp.  Sure, you could do 
      a rpc/system call, but I thought he might be looking at a 
      way to do it all from within the front-end and/or server.

|> The Secretary will disavow all knowledge. 

Heck! Everyone disavows knowledge of me!! ;-)

Mark
From: yogen@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Yogendra Sanghani)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Re: Is there a FAQ in this group?
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:38:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I am also looking for an FAQ for this group if available. Any help
is much appreciated.

--

Yogendra Sanghani
1300 Cecil B. Moore Av. #127
Philadelphia PA 19122
(215) 787-3542
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
From: nigelc@cognos.com (Nigel Campbell)
Subject: Usage of Sybase features
Keywords: STORED PROCEDURES
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:09:37 GMT

G'day (or evening depending on where you are). Do you make heavy
use of stored procedure or rpc in your apps ? If so, which methods
of communicating data/results do you use between the database
and your front end. How critical would you see the need to use
these interfaces with reporting vs transactions requiring updates
etc. Thanks.

-- 
Nigel Campbell          Voice: (613) 738-1338 ext 3016    P.O. Box 9707
Cognos Incorporated       FAX: (613) 738-0002             3755 Riverside Dr.
Database and Connectivity MCI: nigel campbell || 307-4729 Ottawa, Ontario
UUnet: nigelc@cognos.COM                                  CANADA  K1G 3Z4
From: jordan@warped.pnl.gov (Randy Jordan)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: RE: Help needed on Sybase stored Procedure
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:56:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: oracle.1992Nov17.175600.23242
Reply-To: jordan@warped.pnl.gov (Randy Jordan)
Organization: Battelle, Pacific Northwest Laboratory


In article <BxpvH8.IKp@csfb1.fir.fbc.com>, lhall@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (Lawrence Hall) writes:
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|>From: lhall@csfb1.fir.fbc.com (Lawrence Hall)
|>Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
|>Subject: RE: Help needed on Sybase stored Procedure
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|>Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 09:34:19 PST
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|>
|>Julie Stephans writes :
|>
|>-------- bigin Included TEXT -------
|>
|>From: julies@ssf-corp.dhl.com (Julie Stephens)
|>Subject: help needed on sybase stored procedure
|>Organization: DHL Worldwide Express, Redwood City, Calif., USA
|>
|>I'm attempting to create a generic Sybase stored procedure which will
|>accept up to 254 input parameters.  Within the stored procedure
|>I would like to determine how many parameters were passed to the
|>stored procedure & process them.  To accomplish this, I'd like to
|>have a loop which creates input parm names on the fly & retrieve 
|>the values stored in those input parameters. Can this be done?
--

	This question made me think...what are you trying to do here.
	This is like asking directions to the store After you walk
	down a dark alley

	State your goal. Someone surely has done it before.
RJ
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Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
From: chittiba@cimnext1.cim.eas.asu.edu (Chittibabu Visweswaran)
Subject: Server name not appearing on SA window
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:04:59 GMT


Hai everyone,
We have a server by name SYBASE which appears on the SA window.  
After, I added two more servers I noticed that they do not appear on  
the SA window but gives an alert window saying that two other servers  
are also running other than the server which is appearing on the SA  
window. Does anyone know the reason why its not appearing on the SA  
window? It will also be helpful if you could tell me any other method  
to make it appear on the SA window.
Thanx in advance.
--
Visweswaran Chittibabu (Vishu)
CIM Systems Research Center
Arizona State University
Tempe, AZ 85287-5106
e-mail: chittiba@cimnext1.cim.eas.asu.edu
	chittiba@enuxha.eas.asu.edu


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Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: werner@ncs.com (Paul Werner)
Subject: Superbase 4 Windows
Organization: National Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:20:55 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Help with Superbase 4 Windows
Distribution: world
Organization: National Computer Systems, Inc.
Keywords: Superbase Database
 

Dear Usenetters,

This is my first attempt at posting - so pleeeease be kind.

I am currently doing some work with Superbase 4 Windows and have 
various questions about it.  I do not wish to post them to the net 
unless necessary.

If you use Superbase 4 Windows and could offer me some help I'd much
appreciate it.

You can E-mail me:  werner@ncs.com

Maestro Werner