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From: bev@opusc.csd.scarolina.edu (Beverly Huntsberger)
Subject: Re: Needing not to Need
Organization: Univ. of South Carolina, Columbia
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:27:44 GMT

In <1992Apr06.232724.37815@watson.ibm.com> Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com> writes:

>At the moment I'm wearing sneakers (purple), jeans (Levi's 501; gotta
>keep them soc.singles women happy :-), and a Mardi Gras T-shirt
>(Instant Mardi Gras - just add alcohol!).

	So what do they get if they DON'T add alcohol?
	My hope would be something even better ;)
	(Ah, I said "they", because of your 'soc.singles'
	comment and I'm not in the market.)

>Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)

bah
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From: tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
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Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 20:55:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.170908.4377@mks.com> fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes:
>tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes:
>>>tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>>>Trygve    (What's an atheist to do?)  
>>>Masterbate ?
>>
>>I've heard that excessive masturbation can lead to spelling difficulties.
>
>R u impliing somthin hear ? I notised u speelt "masturbation" rong.
>Shoulde bee "masterbation".
>
>	fred "now where'd I put that spell checker" walter

Fred, Fred--you decided to save a few bucks and pick up the Tandy spell
checker that I saw on sale at Radio Shack a while back.  (This particular
program was called "MajikSpel"--they had a lot of them in stock; it 
seemed like they weren't selling very well even after they'd marked
them all the way down to $4.98.)

Trygve 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: Peeking through the curtain
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 17:17:29 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <65235@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>In article <a+sj5j.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>
>>Putting it another way, do you
>>honestly expect me to give up decades-long relationships just because
>>you want to be my SO?
>
>I didn't say anything about "giving up" relationships. No, I don't expect
>someone to "give up" relationships in order to be my SO.
>
>Let me put it this way: if you and I are dating, and you have 
>another romantic relationship that matters more to you than your 
>relationship with me, then we are not SOs.

OK, what if I have another romantic relationship that matters exactly
the same, or perhaps slightly less?  Would it make any difference what
her perception of her status with respect to me was?  What if,
relatively speaking, I care a lot less for her, but still consider her
to be an SO, in addition to you?

(Are we talking about open relationships *again*? ;-)
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 11:21:23 GMT

>intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>>Just being available,
>>just being around, just smiling at the right time or arranging to be at
>>the same restaurant at lunch ...a zillion things.  Not necessarily
>>aggressive, but definitely aware.  Keep your eyes open, boys.

shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
>Lovely, just lovely.  It's this attitude that really bugs me.

Glad it bugs you. It harms you as well.

>Look, women are just as capable of opening their mouths and 
>expressing interest as men are.  
What exactly constitutes "expressing interest"?

>Encouraging men to look at 
>signs that may (and often) mean NOTHING doesn't help anyone.
Not only does it not help anyone, but it contributes to a system in
which some people are expected to read other people's minds. And this
can lead to serious misunderstandings, needless to say.

>I mean, next thing you know, Dave Eisen will tell us that he
>has, after all this time, found out that it *does* mean a
>woman's interested when she scratches her nose.  
And then someone will decide that "no" doesn't always mean no.

>Some of us actually *ask*, take the time to communicate, and are
>willing to take risks, rather than just batting our sweet little
>eyelashes and waiting for the man to do all the work.

Do you initiate conversations with strangers, and follow them up with
requests for a date if they go well? Do you do this as often as men do
it with you?
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"The truffle is not an outright aphrodisiac, but it may in certain
 circumstances make women more affectionate and men more amiable."
                                                ...Brillat-Savarin

Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
From: mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mikeey J. Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Love: Is it a power thing?
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:37:03 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Apr10.050246.13585@news.Hawaii.Edu> venki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (N. Venkateswaran) writes:


>	I solicit your opinion on:


>	"In love, the one who loves less is the winner."


>	I believe that Love is a power play between 2 (or more?) individuals.
>	Love is used to control and mould a person to suit someone else's
>	perception

	
	Hmmm... that's only if YOU give the other person the right to 
manipulate you. It's whatever you're willing to give to the other person.
If you're going to give your SO the power over you, then you're the "loser".
Therefore, love should be given, NOT ownership.

						Mikeey
				   mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Could use a boost
Summary: Heck if I know...
Date: 16 Apr 92 07:12:11 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Apr12.090321.1@vaxb.llnl.gov> solarski@vaxb.llnl.gov writes:
>I could use a little insight, helpful hints. I've been dating this wonderful
>gal for some time. I had been hurt badly before in a serious relationship and
>did not want to fall in love again. It happened. I told her how I felt and she
>became probably the coldest woman in the world. She's tearing me apart. I told
>her what she was doing to me. She said she was sorry, she has strong feelings
>for me as well and doesn't want to hurt me. This made me feel great until the
>next day when she started up her mind games again. I love her, but I don't know
>how long I can hurt before I can't take it. Is there anyone who has been
>through this, giving or receiving, could you pass me on some words-o-wisdom. I
>could really use it.
>
>J.A.W.

First of all, see if she's kidding you or if this is some odd way of making
you break out of this attitude of not wanting to fall in love. Secondly, is
this part of her personality? Lastly, how do you know she has "strong feelings
for you"? If she keeps tormenting you, you should get a serious talk with
her and consider a suspension of your relationship until either she gets the
message that you don't want to be treated this way for you decide that such
treatment should not be normal for your relationship and threatens it. The point
is, how strongly does she love you, and how does that compare with yours?
Obviously, that question cannot be answered easily, but you should be able to
better gauge her love for you if she doesn't let up after sufficient warning.

etc.
-- 
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Biomedical Engineer 1993	1992 EAST REGIONAL CHAMPIONS!!
Duke University, Durham, NC	AND 1992 NCAA NATIONAL CHAMPIONS!!!
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: hevern@cac.washington.edu (M. Hevern)
Subject: Re: Older men and younger women (advice needed)
Organization: U.W. Information Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 07:32:48 GMT

In article <8095@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, pepke@ds1.scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke) writes:
> Althouth a man's dating an older woman is quite trendy right now (see Cher or
> just about anybody in the Hollywood biz), there's a lot of "charge" associated 
> with a man's dating a younger woman.  The phrase "he's old enough to be her
> *father*" is quite a cliche'.  He may sometimes wonder if he's viewed as
> nothing but a randy old goat who doesn't think that women his age are good 
> enough.  He may also wonder why the woman finds him attractive, when there
> are plenty of men her own age.  He may fear rejection for the next strapping
> young beach boy who comes along which, ironically, may cause him to draw back 
> from the relationship.  None of this is rational, but it is part of the human 
> animal.

Alright, I lied. I do know a little about a man being older than the woman. I have two little brothers to prove it (5 and 3). My fathers "new" wife is 10 to 15 years his junior, and there's no stigma attached to that. In fact until the late 80's it was a social norm for only men to have younger mates/date/etc. Cher and some other hollywood (little h) types took the heat in the new (to this half of this century) trend.

How many people, who are not post "baby boomers", have fathers more than five years older than their mother? Lots, I'll bet. The average goes up as you go further back in time. People born between 1900 and 1950 haven't made much of a man being older than a woman. Check out all those nifty movies with divorce plots made before 1980. The man runs off with a younger woman, and the woman takes him to the cleaners. If 1960's hollywood can make a movie about it, it ain't revolutionary or wierd.

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Newspaper personals phenomena
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:47:08 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr17.103338.11792@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
|> }Damn straight I'd catch you; I mean, what do you think the horse is
|> }*for*?  (I believe in cutting through all this 'who's going to make the
|> }first move' nonsense; I leave nothing to chance.)   :-)
|> 
|> Great.  Now where did you say this open range is?  Beth?  Hello?
|> 
|Boy, now I even have to give you *directions* to the prarie?  I mean,
|making the first move is one thing but this is ridiculous.

Sort of like....now put your hand here, and put your other hand right here.
Now, with your left hand rub in a counter clockwise direction and with your
right I want you to....
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: The "first" "move"
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 08:09:15 GMT

ucda@toontown.uucp (Chris Andersen (The Dangerous Guy)) writes:

>But identifying that first move may not be as easy as it seems.  I take my
>first meeting with my wife as a prime example.  I came into a bar and walked
>past her.  She noticed me first and liked what she saw.  So she made a point
>of looking in my direction.  After a few glances around the room I noticed
>this woman was looking at me for more then just the normal glance.  I looked
>back at her 2-3 times to make sure.  I then indicated the dance floor with a
>"you wanna...?" look on my face.  She smiled and nodded her head.  The rest 
>is history.

>Now who made the first move in this meeting?  Some might say it was me since
>I was the first one to indicate that I'd like to dance with her. While others
>might say it was her since she was the one
I would say, whoever asked the other out on a date.

>who first noticed me and made a point of trying to get my attention.
Getting your attention by what means? Not by coming over and speaking
to you.
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 circumstances make women more affectionate and men more amiable."
                                                ...Brillat-Savarin
From: rudoff@mdd.comm.mot.com (Doug Rudoff)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: A R C
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:34:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: mdd.1992Apr10.173404.1944
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA

In article <jdqjf4_.shannah@netcom.com> shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
>Further, if she were the
>type that watched your movements and passively hung around
>waiting for you to "take the hint", is she *really* the type
>of woman you want around?  Some of us actually *ask*, take
>the time to communicate, and are willing to take risks, rather
>than just batting our sweet little eyelashes and waiting for
>the man to do all the work.
>
>Teri - no Rosetta stone required

Teri, it's a great thing you're so willing to make the first move. But
I think you're an exception. If I always let women make the first
move, I would never have had a date in my life. The vast majority of
women who have expressed intrest in me expected me to do asking. Maybe
it has something to do with the type of woman who is attracted to me.
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From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER...
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:08:49 GMT
Organization: AT&T


Lick-'m-Aid?


-Nance
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From: swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: More helpful Hints
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:17:01 EDT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Apr13.195050.19341@watson.ibm.com>,
Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com> writes: 
> In  <1992Apr13.093740.11655@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>  swt@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>>
>> Besides, they make great gifts for friends.  And strangers.  And
>> especially enemies.
>>
>> (Welcome to Peach Tree Circle!  With every purchase you get a free
>> cucumber!  WHETHER YOU WANT ONE OR NOT.)
> 
> I suppose I shouldn't ask where you get it.  And whether it varies for
> friends and enemies...
> 
> Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)

Usually, if you didn't accept the free cucumber with grace, we'd hide a
few pounds in the trunk of your car, but nothing more exotic than that.
(G-rated farm stand, y'know.) 

				--Beth 
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From: fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter)
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:09:08 GMT

tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes:
>>tlode@isis.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>>Trygve    (What's an atheist to do?)  
>>Masterbate ?
>
>I've heard that excessive masturbation can lead to spelling difficulties.

R u impliing somthin hear ? I notised u speelt "masturbation" rong.
Shoulde bee "masterbation".

	fred "now where'd I put that spell checker" walter
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From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Older men and younger women (advice needed)
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:34:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr14.152101.17976@news.larc.nasa.gov> sleight@blackbird.larc.nasa.gov (DWS) writes:
>Any advice/comments on this situation ?
>
>I am 24 years old and have a good friend whom I met at
>church. During the last year I have spent a lot of time
>with her thru church activities and I think she is the
>most wonderful girl/woman I've ever known. When I first
>started to know her (last summer), I thought she was 18
>and would be starting college last fall.  I even considered 
>asking her out on a date.  Then to my surprise, I found out
>she is only a junior in high school - she is currently 
>17 years old after a recent birthday.
>
>I don't think that I'll pursue anything further than just 
>being friends (plus I don't know how she feels about me) 
>since she is still in high school, however I can't get her
>out of my mind.
 
I almost forgot, what about the hooters?
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Date: 11 Apr 92 05:20:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: apple.65236
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Kiran Wagle writes:
>stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>Kiran Wagle writes:
>
>>>This is the issue. Women's options would increase, and their
>>>relationships would be, on average, better, if they picked the
>>>people they want to date, and not just wait to be picked. 
>
>>Maybe. But then maybe the men would start playing hard to get,
>
>But you would still be _acting_ and not _reacting_. Thus your options
>increase. 
>
And well I know. (shh! I don't want the secret to get out to the other women.)

>>and we would have to get them drunk on truffles in order to have
>>our way with them.
>
>Chocolate truffles even. And then some guys would start holding out
>for those chocolate bonbons filled with liqueur-soaked fruit, which
>are illegal in the States.
>
Or Truffles liqueur. 

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kerryg@stat.rice.edu (Kerry Go)
Subject: Re: The "first" "move" (was Re: A R C )
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, Rice University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:06:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.133350.27832@dgbt.doc.ca> michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
>That doesn't surprise me, 99 % of the time, men that either ask me for
>my phone number or said they called, don't call either. I think
>a number of people seem to think that asking for a phone number 
>(or saying they'll call you ) is a polite way to close a conversation 
>and say good bye.
>
>I call a few of these men (as a rule I trade phone numbers) and
>quite often they didn't even bother to return my calls (I got their machine
>and left a message).

I doubt this is a gender-based phenomenom.  I talk to many answering machines,
too--whether their masters are male or female.  Most people do not seem to
return phone calls or letters.  Once I convince myself a person does not have
this basic courtesy, I simply no longer deal with them.  I do not need friends
who think people are so unimportant that they will not return contact.

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The person I want to live my life with is the person to whom I can give the
From: intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Sleeping Around While Dating (was Re: Male visual orientationREFRESH)
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:39:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr15.153930.28876
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr15.132622.23273@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
> 
>You know I often see s.s. threads picked up on TV. There's a spy in our
>mist's and we're not getting paid.

What?!?  You mean you're not getting your royalty checks?  Hmmmmmm ...too
bad.  I guess you just don't have the right agent.

Angelwing - Joking?  You tell me.

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Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.couples,soc.men,soc.women
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Older men and younger women (a funny anecdote)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:41:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <sabk4INNsh6@agate.berkeley.edu>  epg@nature.berkeley.edu () writes:
> he looked at the Chinese Zodiac Signs on the placemat.

Which brings up the question, is it tacky to ask a woman what her Chinese
Zodiac sign is?  (My favorite dim sum place has the same menus.)

P.S.  I'm a cock.  But you probably knew that...

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)