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From: rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (rod anderson)
Subject: In the beginning there was Morse and little else
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 01:23:56 GMT



From the beginning until after World War 2 ham radio was basically
cw.  Because Morse was the primary method of communications, the
ability to send and copy at high speeds was of primary importance.
The code speed was set at 13 wpm because 10 wpm was too easy, this
was perhaps an attempt to limit licences to those with the ability
to hear letters rather than dots and dashes.  When there was no
option for communications then the stress on high speed Morse was
logical.
 
Today skill at high speed Morse code is irrelevant to 
communications ability.  It can be an interesting part part of the 
hobby of amateur radio, but it just a part.  Morse is dying as a 
method of commercial communication.  Satellites are replacing 
Morse on hf for ship to shore and point to point communications.  
The military no longer uses morse.  Only in ham radio is the 
"usefulness" of Morse code stressed.  I think that a lot of this 
is the, "I had to learn it so every one else should have to learn 
it also" attitude.
 
Morse has a place, as a specialized method for certain purposes in 
ham radio.  It is like black powder hunting, useable and 
challenging but no longer state of the art.
 
Because Morse code is just one of many different ways for a radio 
amateur to communicate the requirements for the general licence 
should be changed. Reducing the code speed required to 5 wpm and 
increasing the difficulty of the  written for the general would 
help to bring the examination in line with current needs.  Most 
hams would be better served by studying other topics rather than 
working their code speed up to 13 wpm.
 
I do plan to learn Morse for eme but I have no interest in working
up to 13 wpm for the general.   I do not consider morse at 13 wpm 
communicating.  It is more like boredom.
 
 
Rod Anderson N0NZO                     rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: brunob@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Bruno Bienenfeld)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: What exactly is Q?
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:15:16 GMT
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA

Hi, Jeffery
In times when most of new commers to ham radio, try to aviod any unders-
tendig of basics, you question is a fresh breez and inspiration for sharing
littel knowladge that ham radio give to me.
Most diagrams of resonant circuits show only inductance and capacitance; no
resistance is indicated.Nevertheless, resistance is always present.
At ferq. up tp 30 MHz this R is in the wirw of the coil - L.
At higher ferq. energy loss in C becomes a factor. THIS energy loss is
equivalent to resistance.
When maximum sharpnes or selectivity is nedeed, the objectiv of designe
is to reduce the inherent resistance to the lowest possible value.
In practice if you want to gather weak signals in your receiver the input
circuit should have high Q e.m. minimal loss of energy. However in your
Xmtr output to handel wide freq. range you use low Q , since loss of energy
is secondary to the design.
ARRL Handbook will give you more details if you desire so.

from the log of AA6AD
From: djenkins@wang.com (Dave Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Respect for others
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:18:11 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

Michael P. Deignan, KD1HZ (N1LMB up until last April) writes:

>Not in this neck of the woods.... In this area, N1 means "Know-Nothing".

Congratulations on your rather recent ascension from a "Know-Nothing" call.

Forgive me oh great and powerful OZ.  Being, as yet, only a mere N1 call,
(not that it matters any, but, that's N1 with code) please indulge me while I
rise to the top of my meager abilities to belabor the obvious, BUT,

    a) Not all N1 calls are no-code, nor are they all technicians.

    b) I dare say that there are N1 calls out there (quite possibly even 
       no-code ones) who know at least as much as you or I will ever know.
       Read 'Desiderata' some day: Always there will be greater and lesser
       persons than yourself.

    c) There are several upperclassmen who have kept the calls that they
       have come to be associated with (or even just liked) even as they
       have upgraded.  WA1SOT chose to keep his novice call all the way
       to extra.  And now that John Wolff, WZ1Z has gotten the last 'good'
       extra 1 call you may find more and more people not changing their
       calls.  Even if there were an more extra calls left do you think 
       Al, KA1AL would want to change his call?

If your original comment was intended as humor then forgive me while I strap
on my humor impaired dunce cap.  Otherwise lighten up and open your mind.
And maybe some others "in this neck of the woods" will follow your lead.
--
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52 Norman Street            Work: (508) 967-7284          M/S 014-690
Gardner, MA  01440-1916      Fax: (508) 967-2212          1 Industrial Ave.
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From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Discone Antenna
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:07:36 GMT
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1689A9713.D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Steve Rimar) writes:
>A while back there were some articals on building the Radio Shack antenna.
>I have a few questions on the construction of the antenna.  What was the
>the size of the screen needed an the cone size when completed? How is the
>2ft disk attached to the screen?(I think that was the size of the disk)
>Where is the best place to attach the coax to the antenna?
>                  |-----?----|
>             __    __________
>            |          / \
>            |         /   \
>            ?        /     \
>            |       /       \
>            |      /         \
>            |     /           \
>             __  ---------------
>                |------?--------|
> 
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
>*  STEVE RIMAR                       INTERNET: D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU  *
>* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Good thing I saved this post:

DISCONE ANTENNA:
 What is the disk made of?  Does the disk have to be insulated from the
 cone?  Does the centre conductor attach to the disk or the top of the
 cone?  How does the disk sizaffect the r range of frequencies that the
 antenna is good for?  Is there any other things about the antenna that
 could be changed to change the range of frequencies.

Radio Sh*ck sells a discone antenna (which I bought) and if anyone wants to see
one....goto Radio Sh*ck and check one out.  The disc measures 57 cm (diameter)
and the cone measures 83 cm.  Here's my dimentions of ascii graphics:

                          28.5cm      28.5cm
                          --------+---------
                                 /:\ 61 degrees
                                / : \
                               /  :  \
			 83cm /   :   \  83cm
                             /    :    \
                            /     :     \
                           /      :      \
                          /       :       \

The disc is made of 8, 28.5cm rods, spaced every 45 degrees.  The Cone is made
of 8, 83 cm rods spaced 45 degrees.  The angle between the disc and cone is 61
degress.  I felt compelled to take the time to make the measurments, as its a
good antenna. I have had good results from 25MHz to 1300Mhz.  Anywho, I hope
that helps anyone who want to build one.
From: flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Kenwood TM-241A Query:
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:15:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Phoenix, AZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-a.west.sun.com

In article <1992Nov6.151513.12453@news.unomaha.edu>
rerickso@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ronald D. Erickson) writes:
>
>Has anyone added a speaker jack and used an external speaker
>instead of the built-in speaker?  If so, I would like to
>find out how you went about it and if it is worth while to 
>do.
>

No need to add a speaker jack, there's one already built in.  I use
a Motorola mobile speaker with my 241A, and it sounds great!

Almost any external speaker is better than the silver dollar sized
one which comes built into the 241A.  All Kennwoods have this problem.
Get an extension speaker.  Any kind.  You'll be glad you did.

73,

-fred


-- 
| Fred Lloyd  AA7BQ,  Systems Engineer          Fred.Lloyd@west.sun.com |
| Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation                   ...sun!flloyd |
| Phoenix, AZ    (If it's a fact, I believe it!)         (602) 275-4242 |
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: What we used to have...
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:55:52 GMT

UNB Amateur Radio writes:
> Does anyone remember [what bands hams have lost]?

Well, if you go back far enough, hams were allocated *all*
frequencies above 1.5 mHz ("200 meters and down"). As soon as
hams showed the "pros" that shortwaves, VHF, UHF were useful,
they took them right back. So, we've "lost" everything from 1.5 mHz
and up that we don't have right now.

************************
* These are my opinions only.*
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From: epm52766@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Love is pain)
Subject: Wanted: 2-tone UHF pager(s)/INFO?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:58:00 GMT

I am looking to buy one or possibly several 2-tone UHF pagers.  Does anyone
know if they even exsist?  When 2-tone was popular, paging was all VHF.
The pagers would be used in the 440-450 range.

Any information (or if you have even seen such a thing) would be appreciated.

73,
de N9KET (Andrew)

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: ghg@en.ecn.purdue.edu (George Goble)
Subject: Re: 15 minute quick charge Ni-Cad RC Racing batteries to power an HT?
Keywords: batteries, nicad
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14:36:12 GMT

In article <74112@apple.Apple.COM> north@Apple.COM (Don North) writes:
>
>On another point, I have also been using a model-car-battery peak-charger
>to quick charge the standard HT battery packs (Alinco 7.2V/700ma EBP20N,
>Yaesu 7.2V/600ma FNB-17).  This is an AstroFlite model 110 DC/DC auto-peak
>charger.  Runs off 13.8VDC input (car battery, shack p/s), has an
>adjustable charge rate (1-5A, I usually set it to 2A for the HT packs),
>and goes into trickle-charge mode after it has detected the voltage
>peak of the pack being charged.  No timer needed; set and forget.
>Typically it takes just 15-20 min to recharge a spent HT pack.

Does it uses negative delta-V charging?  Or does it just stop at a
certain voltage? How much do the cells heat up?  I have on order
some MAXIM MAX713 negative delta-V charge controller chips and
was going to crock up some chargers, but if hobby car chargers
use this already, good news.  What does this charger cost?

Alexander Battery sells a Nicad cell phone pack, 7.2V, 1500 mah
for $42.85 credit card order. (800) 247-1821 or (515) 423-8955
to get nearest distributor.  This pack is six "A sub F" cells, which
are like "AA" except they are 0.1 inches fatter and should fit
most packs. I used to be a 2 or 3 "pack a day" user on my portable
cellphone (motorola 8000) on the 500-600 mah packs, now I have
yet to empty the 1500 mah pack.  I didn't see an Alexander listing
for individual cells of this type, I have them checking on it.
If nothing else, one could order the the CL4038-UC pack and bust
it open for the six cells.  It may be cheaper to get a CL4038-SK
(thicker pack with 2 strings of six cells, 3.0 Ah rating) to
harvest its 12 cells.
--ghg
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: awpaeth@watpix.uwaterloo.ca (Alan Wm Paeth)
Subject: (Looking for) Mods to a 149MHz Voice Pager
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:34:18 GMT

I've a bunch of Motorola "Keynote" pagers working in the 149MHz band.
They are tight little surface mount wonders -- does anyone have info
on how to recrystal the synthesizer (assuming they are synthesized) or
otherwise rekey these to run at a frequency about 1% lower than speced?

(I missed the previous thread on this and cannot find it on any newsserver).

    /Alan Paeth
    Computer Graphics Laboratory
    University of Waterloo
    VE3AWP
From: flbbs!larry.mittman@ncoast.ORG (Larry Mittman) 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DXCC Not Hard ???
Date: 4 Nov 92 13:24:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Fleet BBS (216) 646-0655 24 hrs DUAL STD
Reply-To: flbbs!larry.mittman@ncoast.ORG (Larry Mittman) 

 On 11-03-92 BOB WITTE wrote to ALL... 
 
 BW> >  
 BW> > To which I add: 
 BW> >   5) 144 MHz DXCC, only one issued so far (W5UN), 
 BW>  
 BW>      Yeah, but he cheated by using a repeater (i.e. the moon). :-) 
 BW>       
There was no cheating here. The moon is not a repeater - unless 
you also consider tropospheric ducting and skip as being a 
repeater. A repeater takes a signal it has received and retransmits 
it. The moon was being used as a "mirror". It reflected the signals 
in a very well defined angular reflection to a distant location. 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.42 *               ... 73 de N8MGU (Magoo, by George!) 
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From: markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger)
Subject: Re: How can I start amateur radio in USA ?
Reply-To: rapw20@email.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:20:52 GMT

In article <103360132@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers)  
writes:
> > Hello netters !
> > 
> > As a foreign student, I would like to know wheather I can enjoy radio
> > ham.  I was a member of HL0R(sogang university amateur radio club) in
> > Seoul, Korea during 1982 - 1986.
> > 
> > So, I would like to know what kind of procedure do I need to follow,
> > any association etc .
> > Thanks in advance.
> > 
> 
> Sooyong:
> 
> Annyong haseyo!
> 
> Unfortunately, I don't think you'll be able to become licensed in the  
U.S.;
> I have been travelling quite often to Korea in the past year, and so
> looked into the licensing situation.  There is no reciprocal licensing  
for
> U.S. hams in Korea (other than military personnel at base radio clubs),  
and
> so I assume that it will be difficult for a Korean ham to obtain such a
> license in the U.S.  You might want to check with the ARRL (anybody from
> the League reading this) for up-to-date info on reciprocal licensing  
agreements
> between the U.S. and the R.O.K..
> ...

While he may not be eligible for a reciprocal licanse, he can certainly  
get a U.S. license by taking the exams. Best bet would be to contact the  
ARRL for a newcomer's package (I think that's what they call it). It will  
have licensing info along with a list of local clubs giving classes and/or  
exams.

Unlike some other countries, U.S. citizenship is not required to qualify  
for a U.S. amateur radio license.

Hope this helps.

Mark   KG7JL
From: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CW is dead! (snicker)
Date: 9 Nov 92 07:18:22 GMT
Reply-To: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, Ok

tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton) writes:

> I did a search of our local packetcluster (tm) database to see how
> many of the YU4 and YU5 calls (Bosnia and Macedonia) were being
> reported. For the most part, YU4's are using 4N4 and YU5's are using
> 4N5 prefixes.  Then a very strange feeling came over me....I noticed
> that virtually every DX report for these countries was on ...gasp!!!...
> CW.  Morse code!  Morris code! The dead mode!!!!  Jeeezzzz...I guess
> for now they don't know morse code is a dead mode and they better stop
> using it.  Could some of you anti CW netters please let these gals and 
> guys know?  Thanks.  I would hate for them to continue in the dark much
> longer.
> 73, Tom
> WB4IUX

I'm not against the use of CW.  I just don't think I should be required
to learn it at 13 wpm+ or even 5 wpm if the treaty is changed.
Then if I decide I want to work a  YU4 or some other rare one that's on
CW I can either use my computer, or if that doesn't work learn the code.
But if I don't want to (work a YU4) then I may not have a reason to use
the code (except to upgrade until the rules change.)

Rick.
[Follow-ups preferably to rec.radio.amateur.policy sice that's where
"they" say this goes.]
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From: paul@n3eop.pgh.pa.us (paul)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Proximity Sensor?
Date: 4 Nov 92 01:09:33 GMT
Organization: CrossRoads in Elizabeth, PA

dkohn@ub.d.umn.edu (Eeknuf Teg) writes:

> Hello folks,
> 	I've been trying to find construction information on an apparently
> radio-related device that appears to be something like a proximity sensor.
> I've seen this "instrument" being used in a Tesla video and some Zeppelin
> film footage.  The user brings his hand closer-to / further-from the antenna,
> and a VCO responds to the proximity of his hand, changing the (audio-freq)
> oscillator's output frequency up or down.

  The device is called a Theremin.
From: mlau@pollux.svale.hp.com (Milton (Mel) Lau)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:37:40 GMT
Subject: * Reminder, HP QSO Party *
Organization: Hewlett Packard CPCD, Sunnyvale CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc


To: Hewlett Packard Co. Amateur Radio Operators

HP's Fall QSO party will be on Sat. & Sun, Nov 14th & 15th, 1992.

Time:	Saturday UTC 0000Z to 2400Z (SSB & CW)
	Sunday   UTC 0000Z to 1200Z (CW & RTTY)

See notes "hp.misc" for more details


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From: rbono@necis.UUCP (Rich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:43:06 GMT
Organization: still seeking it

In article <1992Nov12.093234.8285@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK>, M.Willis@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Mike Willis) wrote:
> In article <t_q1pw-@rpi.edu>, root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon) writes:
> |> In article <2B0151C5.819@news.service.uci.edu> lockhart@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Jack C. Lockhart) writes:
> |> >In article <1992Nov8.084029.1761@lub001.lamar.edu> lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu writes:
> |> >>It was interesting to read that the following people were hams:
> |> >>
> |> >>Andy Griffith - (WA7WYN) ACTOR
> 
> Most of these listed are hardly famous, maybe in the USA  but certainly not of
> worldwide fame.
> 
> |> >>Walter Cronkite - (KB2GSD) Former CBS News Anchor
> Who?
> |> >>Priscilla Presley - (N6YOS) Actress
> As in Elvis wife?
> |> >>Garry Shandling - (KD6OY) Comedian
> Who?
> |> >>Chet Atkins - (WA4CZD) Country Music Star
> |> >>Ronnie Milsap - (WB4KCG) Country Music Star
> Who?
> |> >>Barry Goldwater - (K7UGA) former U.S. Senator
> Really?
> |> >>Joe Walsh - (WB6ACU) Rock Star
> Heard of him.
> 
> King Hussain is about the most famous I can think of, followed by Rajiv Ghandi
> (deceased). There must be others, there is a British Peer no-one seems to have
> heard of, and of course the Apollo/Shuttle crowd. In the UK Helen Sherman is almost
> countable as she held a special licence as the first Englishwoman in sapce.
> 
> Mike

  Well... I guess that I should be on this list too ;-)!  What makes
someone famous???  Being recognized someplace outside of your element,
perhaps???

  (the following is a TRUE story, really!)

  Well, I was at a Seminar on the West coast (of the USA, I am from
the East coast, 3,000 miles away)...  There we were... all milling around
eating diner and having a few brews (it was a lawn party/barbecue). Most
people didn't know each other.  We were all from different companies.

  I was minding my own business when someone came up to me and asked:

    Hey, aren't you "Mr. DOSGATE?"!!

  I said, well yes! (being the creator/author of DOSGATE, but having never
been called "Mr. DOSGATE" before) How did you recognize me.  He said that he
recognized my name.   And this wasn't even a gathering of hams !!!

 Well, I was impressed.  I didn't think that I was that famous.

 The next thing that I knew there was a crowd gathering (well, there
were at least 3 or 4 people, and we did talk about DOSGATE for a short time).

So.. I wonder, how many other people have heard of me and/or DOSGATE?
If there is someone from more than the USA, does that make me famous
world wide, and get me on the list???

  Sorry, I couldn't resist!!! :-)

  Rich 
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 * Rich Bono                     IMRICH         UUCP:rbono@necis.ma.nec.com * 
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From: frenchs@forsan.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Morse Translation
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:07:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: rdg.1992Nov10.170703.19977
Reply-To: frenchs@forsan.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


More information...

Does anyone have a copy of The October 1990 issue of "73 magazine", apparently it has a simple circuit to interface radio to computer.

Best regards,
Simon - G6ZTZ
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu (Paul Flaherty)
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code (and MicroSats)
Organization: The Three Packeteers
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:05:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.174254.20403@cbfsb.cb.att.com> feg@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (forrest.e.gehrke) writes:
>In article <11247@platypus.uofs.uofs.edu> bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:
>>Isn't amazing how none of the arguments for REQUIRING Morse Code hold
>>water??
>Any water held by this argument? Ever try communicating by phone 
>with a 500 Hz bandpass?  And think about how many such narrow
>band passes can be accommodated in a given frequency band?

One argument in favor of the CW requirement is that it's much, much easier to
build a machine that interprets CW than one that recognizes speech.

Consider, for example, a microsat with a (non-packet) store - and - forward
capability.  It makes far more sense from a signal processing and storage
standpoint to use CW than speech, since the stored representation is more 
compact, and commands are easier to interpret.  Such a satellite in LEO would
be able to process multiple conversations simultaneously, with very minimal
ground stations (A SanTec 2m SSB handheld would suffice).

--
-=Paul Flaherty, N9FZX/5W1JX  | "Just name a hero, and I'll prove he's a bum."
->paulf@Stanford.EDU          |  -- Col. Gregory "Pappy" Boyington, USMC (ret)
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