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From: rhorwell@crab.etwork-a (Roland Faragher-Horwell,crab)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Amphicar Questions
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:33:36 GMT
Reply-To: rhorwell@atc.boeing.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Sun Microsystems


In article 25633@wam.umd.edu, buffalo@wam.umd.edu (Duncan D. Sterling) writes:
>I have some questions about a car I believe was available in the US for
>several years during the 1960's.
>
>The car, known as an Amphicar looked like a small English sportscar, but
>was German made.  It had two small propellers under the rear bumper, and
>was capable of functioning as a boat.
>
>I would be interested in hearing anything about this car: years made,
>behavior, utility, performance, etc.
>
>Thanks,
>
 I have a friend who is trying to sell his - email me if your interested!
 It is in pristine condition with ~40k miles on it.  It is white with red
 trim and interior.  

Roland
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From: harton@owlnet.rice.edu (Tracy Brian Harton)
Subject: Transmission for 1949 Plymouth
Keywords: plymouth, transmission, overdrive
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:30:59 GMT

I'm looking for a 3-speed w/ overdrive transmission for a 1949 Plymouth..  I've
already got two transmissions without the overdrive, but I'd really like to get
my hands on one of the others.  Anyone have or seen one?

							Tracy
From: rap@nnsgs50.tcom.stc.co.uk (Richard Porter)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Marcos v. TVR
Date: 21 Dec 1992 14:21:49 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Limited
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In article <1gur18INNqej@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> gunter@tartarus.uwa.edu.au
(Gunter Ahrendt) writes:

>They currently make the 'Mantula', which sure looks like the car you describe:

See my previous posting re. Mantula, Martina, Mantara and Mini Marcos.

>4 Headlights

Various headlamp configurations have been used, but I think the Mantula has
single rectangular units behind perspex covers. The covers are not permitted
on complete cars in the UK so the Mantara has double round headlamps without
covers, but you can fit them afterwards.

>Sleek TVR form

I would dispute that the Marcos is like any TVR! Sleek, certainly, but
definitely "Marcos". That doesn't mean I dislike the TVR - the new rounded
Griffith is a very attractive motor car and just as distinctive.

Richard
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From: buffalo@wam.umd.edu (Duncan D. Sterling)
Subject: Amphicar Questions
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:14:52 GMT

I have some questions about a car I believe was available in the US for
several years during the 1960's.

The car, known as an Amphicar looked like a small English sportscar, but
was German made.  It had two small propellers under the rear bumper, and
was capable of functioning as a boat.

I would be interested in hearing anything about this car: years made,
behavior, utility, performance, etc.

Thanks,

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From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Is this a Model A?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 12:23:19 GMT

In article <6218@naucse.cse.nau.edu> rrw@.cse.nau.edu (Bob Wier) writes:
"Last summer while looking for antique photos in shops, I ran
"across a very interesting "real photo" postcard, which I'd
"estimate is pre - 1920.
"
"Can anyone tell me is this a Model "A" or some other similar
"vintage auto.  Does the fellow look to you like he's handcuffed?
"The clothes are somewhat reminiscient of World War 1 uniforms.

you're right about the year -- approximately...  it could be early
'20s, i think.  *definitely* not an A, as they appeared in '28; not a
T either [too low-slung].  note the car is *right* hand drive!  makes
me think of early rolls-royces, but i doubt it's anything that fancy.
it does have the ghost's coffin nose, though...

he *does* look handcuffed to me.
do you have *any* idea *where* the picture was taken?  could it have
been england?

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From: zintel@mdd.comm.mot.com (Mike Zintel)
Subject: Need Carb for 61 Vette/283
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:04:05 GMT

I didn't see a FAQ for "where do I find ..." questions. Any help with Vette
sources in general would be appreciated. Thanks.


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From: hhelanto@vipunen.hut.fi (Henri R Helanto)
Subject: Re: Thelma & Louise
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:10:00 GMT

In <1992Dec18.135640.19680@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> dougf@coos.dartmouth.edu (Doug Fraser) writes:

>>	I don't think they wreck up _very_ expensive or rare cars but
>>	replicas nowadays... (Shelby Cobra, Lamborghini Countach,
>>	Ferraris etc.)
>>
>
>How about 'Basic Instinct'??
>
>That's a real Esprit sitting on it's roof.  :~-(
>
>(Best car chase scenes I've ever seen, though....)

	Hmm... okay, sometimes they _do_ wreck rare/expensive
	cars, but don't worry, that was just a Lotus ;---)

	Seriously speaking, Espirit isn't that rare or expensive
	that one couldn't be sacrificed for a movie. They still
	make Espirits and that one was most probably ordered for
	the movie from the factory, not a second-hand car.
	(i.e. they wouldn't have built that car if it hadn't been
	ordered - it wouldn't exist now anyway. Logical?)

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From: rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu (Bob Wier)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Is this a Model A?
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:36:08 GMT
Originator: rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu

From article <6218@naucse.cse.nau.edu>, by rrw@.cse.nau.edu (Bob Wier):
> Sorry about the cross posting - I'd like to reach as wide
> an appropriate audience as possible -
> 
> Last summer while looking for antique photos in shops, I ran
> across a very interesting "real photo" postcard, which I'd
> estimate is pre - 1920.  I have this available for ftp in
> ..gif format from naucse.cse.nau.edu (134.114.64.70 - also
> known as "sunset.cse.nau.edu" )
> 
> 
  Thousands of apologies - I forgot to say where to find the .gif
  - it's under the directory "geo" - thanks!


- Bob Wier

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From: miller@FS1.cam.nist.gov (Bruce R. Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Amphicar Questions
Date: 23 Dec 92 18:46:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NIST - Computing and Applied Mathematics Laboratory


In article <89627@bcsaic.boeing.com>, Roland Faragher-Horwell,crab writes:
>  I have a friend who is trying to sell his - email me if your interested!
>  It is in pristine condition with ~40k miles on it.  ....

Um, is that statutory or nautical?

Sorry, just had to ask...
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From: josh@Happy-Man.com (Joshua_Putnam)
Subject: Weatherstripping for '65 Ford?
Reply-To: Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:24:35 GMT

This group is great -- let's see just how good it is at
finding *really* obscure parts.

I'm looking for weatherstripping for the back window in my
1965 Ford Country Sedan station wagon.  The two pieces I
need are:

C5AZ 7141610-A  Weatherstrip -- Tailgate outer panel to belt
C5MY 7142072-A  Weatherstrip -- Back window glass -- inner

If you have a 65-72 parts catalog, these parts are
illustrated on the first page of Body Illustration Section
400.  I'd be happy to trade for other parts for full-size 
'65 Fords, or to pay a reasonable price.  I don't have the
money for a full restoration, so custom manufacture is not
an alternative.

(If you have any other parts for my car kicking around that
you'd like to be rid of, I might want a few of them, too,
but I already have spare body parts, rear end, transmission,
and most chrome.)

Before anyone suggests them, I've already checked with:

Bob Cook Classic Auto Parts, Inc.
City Motor Company
McDonald Ford Parts
Old Car Parts Store
Obsolete Ford Parts, Inc.

Metro Molded Parts and J.C. Whitney do not have adequate
substitutions.

Thanks in advance for any help.
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From: joes@sw.stratus.com (Joseph Spriano)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Amphicar Questions
Date: 22 Dec 1992 11:01:23 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
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I have some questions about a car I believe was available in the US for
several years during the 1960's.

The car, known as an Amphicar looked like a small English sportscar, but
was German made.  It had two small propellers under the rear bumper, and
was capable of functioning as a boat.

I would be interested in hearing anything about this car: years made,
behavior, utility, performance, etc.

Thanks,

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Hay i saw one of these on the Charles river last summer or the summer before that
and then again parked infront of the garden some tim ago. Neet cars. The ones I
say were convertibles white and red or something like that. Me thinks it was the
same car but 2 diffrent times. 
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From: dougf@coos.dartmouth.edu (Doug Fraser)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Thelma & Louise
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:07:25 GMT
Organization: Thayer School of Engineering, Dartmouth College

In article <102640@netnews.upenn.edu> george@mech.seas.upenn.edu writes:
>:>
>:>That's a real Esprit sitting on it's roof.  :~-(
>:>
>
>i think some 'product placement' is at work here.
>
>btw. mr. bonds white esprit that 'got blowed up good' in moonraker(?)
>was an engineless shell supplied by the factory. ( in addition
>to the two operational cars )
>
>
 Yup...   one of those shells was recently discoverd by a Bahamas resident
and mounted on a concrete pedistal in his back yard.  I wish I had one for
*my* back yard.
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From: bakc@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR KR COMAN)
Subject: Movie Cars --- Sortta??
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Distribution: World
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:10:11 GMT

	Maybe this is not the right newsgroup, but after some thought and
in the light of the current thread... Here goes:

	On the box last night there was a Ken Wahl movie "Taking of Beverley
Hill" .... real crash, burn and shoot'em up fest calculated to put everyone 
in the Xmas spirit.    Featured most significantly in the movie -- did a 
double take -- was what I would describe as an Alvis Saracen armoured 
personnel carrier.  A "vintage" 1950's design used for many years by the
British Army and other Commonwealth countries: very common in later days 
in Northern Ireland.   It's a 6 wheeler and in the movie it had been fitted
out with a cannon-turret,  I'm convinced that it was a Saracen cos not 
only was the appearence right, but the sound of that transmission (high-
pitched whine as it accelerates) is unmistakable -- once heard, never 
forgotten.   

	My question is what on earth was a Saracen doing in a US movie?  For 
the part it was supposedly assigned to the LAPD SWOT division.   Does the 
LAPD really have Saracens in its inventory?   If so, anyone know why they
were aquired in preference to the more natural choice of a US-sourced APC.

	(I know that some four years ago, the British Army sold off a load of
surplus Ferret scout cars -- small 4 wheelers, cousins to the Saracen, and 
that numbers ended up in the USA.)

	Any clarification would be appreciated!!!

Cheers,
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From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Ford Automatics
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 12:14:14 GMT

vancleef@netcom.com (Henry van Cleef) writes:
"shaffer@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Michael A. Shaffer) writes:
">When did Ford switch from 2sp automatics to 3sp automatics and in
">which models?
">
"Not really an "easy question."  Ford's first automatics (not counting
"the purchased GM hydramatics used in Lincoln 1949-54) were Borg-Warner
"3-speeds on Ford and Mercury '51.  They started in 2nd in "Drive"
"range, 1st in "Low".

this sounds like the b-w 35, used on nash/rambler/amc 6s & small v8s
through '71, and on foreign cars [cf. volvo, jag] well into the '70s.

"                      1955-57 models would kick down to 1st on full
"throttle standing start.  1958 and later had two "Drive " ranges with a
"sprag clutch to allow a smooth shift to 2nd or start-i-2nd.  These were
"built into the 70's with various valve body setups; all had a cast iron
"case.  Same transmission was used on Rambler.

this sounds like the b-w 10/11/12, used by international harvester as
well as nash/rambler/amc up to '71 [& others?].  ford took production
in-house about '58 as the fx, mx, and fmx; they supposedly fixed a few
design weaknesses with the b-w design, but the trannies are still
interchangeable...

"                               Later C6 and C4 transmissions (60s and
"later) were aluminum case 3 speeds with the same drive train components
"as Mopar aluminum case transmissions.  

this is a real shocker.  are you *sure*?  how do you account for the
c5, derived from the c4?

i've heard tell that the c4 was a hacked version of a 4-sp. studebaker
design, and that the c5 basically restored the o/d that had been cut.

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From: brooks@mcnc.org (Ted Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Heater control cable question
Date: 24 Dec 92 19:30:09 GMT
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC

In article <1992Dec23.151619@vinnie.cuc.ab.ca> jonathan@vinnie.cuc.ab.ca (Jonathan Levine) writes:
>I'm working on my 1964 Rambler Classic, and need to replace a heater control
>cable -- the one that goes through the firewall to the valve regulating
>water flow into the heater core.  The wire (steel) is intact, still with
>loops on both ends, but the semi-rigid jacket is fragmented at one end,
>and thus can't be anchored properly.  I'd prefer not to get one from
>the wreckers, as plastics such as that used in the jacket age badly and
>I'm sure it would break again.  Does anyone know of a source for these
>things?
>
>thx.
Try your local auto parts store. Bowden cable, as it's known generically,
is used for choke cables, vent cables, etc. Worst case, you can buy a 
manual choke conversion kit and use the cable out of it.
 
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From: jimd@fraser.sfu.ca (Jim Davies)
Subject: Re: Ford Automatics
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:02:06 GMT

adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:

>vancleef@netcom.com (Henry van Cleef) writes:
>"shaffer@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Michael A. Shaffer) writes:
>">When did Ford switch from 2sp automatics to 3sp automatics and in
>">which models?
>">
>"Not really an "easy question."  Ford's first automatics (not counting
>"the purchased GM hydramatics used in Lincoln 1949-54) were Borg-Warner
>"3-speeds on Ford and Mercury '51.  They started in 2nd in "Drive"
>"range, 1st in "Low".

>this sounds like the b-w 35, used on nash/rambler/amc 6s & small v8s
>through '71, and on foreign cars [cf. volvo, jag] well into the '70s.

Wrong! Ford NEVER used the T35, although the other uses are accurate,
plus a lot more. Some of these were made in UK. Look for clunky sand
cast cases.


>"                      1955-57 models would kick down to 1st on full
>"throttle standing start.  1958 and later had two "Drive " ranges with a
>"sprag clutch to allow a smooth shift to 2nd or start-i-2nd.  These were
>"built into the 70's with various valve body setups; all had a cast iron
>"case.  Same transmission was used on Rambler.

>this sounds like the b-w 10/11/12, used by international harvester as
>well as nash/rambler/amc up to '71 [& others?].  ford took production
>in-house about '58 as the fx, mx, and fmx; they supposedly fixed a few
>design weaknesses with the b-w design, but the trannies are still
>interchangeable...

Make that "sort of" interchangeable. Dont forget there are 3 basic
case sizes *and two large case basic designs* in this old family. 
This must be the clunkiest valve body around. IMHO
O

>"                               Later C6 and C4 transmissions (60s and
>"later) were aluminum case 3 speeds with the same drive train components
>"as Mopar aluminum case transmissions.  

>this is a real shocker.  are you *sure*?  how do you account for the
>c5, derived from the c4?
This is BS, unless you mean that they are the same in that they are
both simpson power trains. 


>i've heard tell that the c4 was a hacked version of a 4-sp. studebaker
>design, and that the c5 basically restored the o/d that had been cut.

All studebaker trans were courtesy of Borg-Warner, more or less, 
according to my info. What stude trans might this be? 


Jim Davies



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From: lgt1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Larry G. Thorne)
Subject: BMW Issetta's
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 03:15:01 GMT

hey guys, any of you out ther interested in the infamous BMW isetta single 
cylinder, 300 cc. cars? I still have a lotta parts....
Sincerely, 
Craig Vechorik 
at the borrowed e mail address of lgt1@ra.msstate.edu

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From: rrw@.cse.nau.edu (Bob Wier)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique,rec.autos,rec.photo
Subject: Is this a Model A?
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:25:18 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos.antique
Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ
Originator: rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu

Sorry about the cross posting - I'd like to reach as wide
an appropriate audience as possible -

Last summer while looking for antique photos in shops, I ran
across a very interesting "real photo" postcard, which I'd
estimate is pre - 1920.  I have this available for ftp in
.gif format from naucse.cse.nau.edu (134.114.64.70 - also
known as "sunset.cse.nau.edu" )

Anyway, this is a very interesting photo.  It shows what
appears to be a couple of men in a wild setting (mountain 
in background with either birch or aspen trees).  The car
has just forded a stream, and they are out by the side.
Lots of backcountry / camping gear stowed on the car.
Note the kerosene lantern hanging on the back spare tire.
Now, one of the men facing away from the camera has his
hands at a very unusual angle behind his back - he appears
to be handcuffed (although it's hard to tell).  I have no
information on this picture other than what you see.

Can anyone tell me is this a Model "A" or some other similar
vintage auto.  Does the fellow look to you like he's handcuffed?
The clothes are somewhat reminiscient of World War 1 uniforms.

This is a 256 gray scale gif photo. This is as clear as it gets,
the original is somewhat fuzzy...this is an albumem photo (again
probably about 1910 - 1925).

All opinions welcome!

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From: kemasa@ghost.hac.com (Kemasa)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Anti-Lock Brakes makes stopping SAFER?
Date: 30 Dec 92 02:44:25 GMT
Organization: Natural Order Nature Experiments (N.O.N.E.)

In article <236@io.trident.datasys.swri.edu> johns@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Stephen Johns) writes:
>...
>Try this on an unpopulated, wet road:
>take a non ABS car up to 70, heck 50, and do a panic stop.
>For some REAL fun just mash the brake pedal to the floor!

Yeah, it helps people not know how to drive and can teach bad habits.

>...
>I have rarely, if ever, had the ABS system kick in on dry/normal road
>conditions.  An exception is when your cruising about 80, not watching where
>you are all that closely, and notice the road you want to turn on is 20 ft in
>front of you, hit the brakes and throw the car into the corner, the ABS will
>keep you from sliding sideways through the intersection.  Without ABS your
>only option would be to not turn.
>
>This experience is with the ABS system on a 1990 Toyota Supra.

Have you REALLY done this? ABS does not allow you the break the laws
of physics. Just because the brakes don't lock does not mean that
you won't exceed the corning ability of the car and tires. ABS is also
not perfect. If the system thinks the car is stopped, then it won't
do anything (on ice). If there is sand, oil or anything like that
you ABS brakes won't help as you slide into the curve.
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