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From: platkus@meese.ecn.purdue.edu (Shawn W Platkus)
Subject: Re: The Miami UV Rays
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date:  2 Oct 92 20:20:04 GMT

cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:

>> (BTW, invoking the same logic you used to rename the Bills the
>> 'Buffalo Broncos', I propose we start calling your team the 
>> 'Miami Browns'.)
>> 
>> :-)
>> 
>> Mike 
>              Uh....you lost me there friend. I can see the humor in 
>associating the Bills with the Broncos, but where is the corralation
>between the Dolphins and the Browns? Unless you're talking about the
>sun tans on some of the Miami players. Great football humor!

>                          -doug THE dolfan-


Speaking of the Bills here.  Does anyone know the h*ll a bill is?  I don't
even think the team knows, because the have buffaloes on their helments.  I 
think they kinda missed the mascot idea.  I mean you don't see any other 
team with a picture that corresponds to their city do you?  For example, 
the Washington Redskins don't have say George Washington on their helments.

Oh well, that, that's the Bills for ya.
(A team with a non existant mascot)



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From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: AFL teams?
Summary: Who they were and when they came in
Organization: Rice University
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:39:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.123822.11000@bnr.ca> jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond) writes:
>In article <1439@niktow.canisius.edu>, bittle@niktow.canisius.edu (Jason
>Bittle) writes:
>|>
>|>does anyone have a list of all the AFL teams, and when they were around.  If
>|>not a list, can someone provide them for me..
>|>
>|>A steak dinner resides in this text file! :)
>|>
>|>Thanks..
>	From memory:
>
>	East					West
>
>Buffalo Bills					Dallas Texans (K.C. Chiefs)
>Boston Patriots	(N.E. Patriots)			Oakland Raiders (wherever Raiders)
>Houston Oilers					San Diego Chargers
>N.Y. Titans (jets)				Denver Broncos
>
>	Somewhere around 66 - 68 Maimi Dolphins were added to the east
>and Cincinatti Bengels to the west.

Not bad -- in 1960, they were arranged thusly:

             East                               West

Buffalo Bills                           Dallas Texans (moved to KC as 
Boston Patriots                             Chiefs in 1963)
Houston Oilers                          Oakland Raiders
New York Titans (became Jets            Denver Broncos
     in 1963)                           Los Angeles Chargers (moved to San
                                            Diego in 1961) 

Miami joined the East in 1966 (and went 3-11 that first season -- two of the
the three wins of which were against the Oilers.  ugh.) and Cincinnati
joined the West in 1968, as you said...

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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 02:34:54 EDT
From: William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: LIONS update

The Detroit News reported that Rodney Pete was injured in Sunday's game
with Tampa Bay,  and will likely miss this weekend's game with NO.  Kramer
will get the start if Pete does not play.  Also the lions are returning to
a stretch-type of offense,  to give Barry Sanders a break,  in hopes that
the threat of 4 receivers will make him more of the danger he was the last
few years.  This stretched offense will be unleashed on NO This weekend in
the Dome.
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From: easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu 
Subject: Re: da Bills and some other games
Originator: easchwei@c00539-106ps.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Jim Kelly = god
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:55:54 GMT


In article <Bv9own.B9y@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) writes:
|> Path: taco!gatech!darwin.sura.net!wupost!uwm.edu!rutgers!ub!acsu.buffalo.edu!ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu!v079m8ta
|> From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
|> Subject: da Bills and some other games
|> Keywords: Jim Kelly = god
|> Message-ID: <Bv9own.B9y@acsu.buffalo.edu>
|> Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 22:43:00 GMT+5:00
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|> 
|> 	*yawn*  (:  
|> 
|> 	A great game for the Bills' NFL highlite films.  Jim Kelly only threw
|> 5 incompletions en route to another 300+ yard game.  Two Buffalo receivers 
|> (Lofton, Reed) with over 100 yards, The Thurminator with over 100 yards rushing
|> again.
|> 
|> 	Oh yeah, I forgot to congratulate the Rams, the Pack, and da Bucs on
|> awesome upset victories.  (I *especially* like to see Detroit lose...(:)  And
|> here I was thinking the Lions were invincible at home (;  (;  (;
|> 
|> 	I was just thinking back to a negative report on the Bills' special
|> teams (I forget the exact reference).  I must say, with all subjectivity,
|> that the Bills' special teams are among the league's elite.  I know that we've
|> been playing the scrounge (no offense) of the league the last two weeks, but
|> it's hard to find a weakness in this Buffalo team.  (If I _really_ have to
|> point out a negative aspect, it may be that we do not get enough pressure on
|> the QB.)

The def. line still has problems with holding the run, but is MUCH better
this year than last with Wright and Smith back.  Didn't they just pick up
somebody off waivers?  Maybe Corey woke up and realized a little more muscle
but be helpful.  We can hope.  Anyway, the def. sec. looks better the last
two weeks but then a real test will come with a team like the Fins.  We'll
see what Jones is made of in that match.

|> 	Well, that's all my woofing for now.  I love it.  Look out Miami...
|> ..you're in for a whoopin' next week  ;)
|> 
|> Jonny B.
|> 
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From: paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische)
Subject: Re: <None>/ Bills and Buddy Ryan?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 19:13:42 GMT

In article <16877E2EA.TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu> TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tom Steegmann) writes:
>     Buddy Ryan came to mind for several reasons. First, not to take
>anything away from Rich Kotite (GO EAGLES!), but I think that Buddy
>Ryan built the Eagles into what they are today, more or less.  Second,
>if he could do to the Buffalo defence what he did for Philly, the Bills
>would be a dynasty, point blank.  He has a real attitude, which might
>work for or against him in Buffalo, a city full of attitude.  If
>he could get along with some of the egos there, god only knows how
>far they could go. On the other hand, maybe nobody would work  together.
>Well, thats enough, I gotta study for a mid term.

Buddy Ryan never won jack when he was coach at Philadelphia.  He
sure could draft defensive players, but he didn't know how to win.
How can you want to replace Levy with a coach who never took his team
anywhere?  Buddy Ryan (the Eagles defensive coordinator) has made
those talented players into one of the best defenses ever.  They never
played that well under Ryan.  Hell, he should be made director of
scouting somewhere.  God knows the Jets could use him.
> 
>Tom Steegmann
>We're just better than you.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Must've gone to USC or something.

Jason Gische
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From: drhall1@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Subject: Re: The Broncos have an offense again!  (or Who'da Thunk it!)
Reply-To: drhall1@PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:54:01 GMT
Keywords: Running Game!

>
>That's the story, thanks for tolerating my rantings!
>
>Tom
>
>Broncos fan no matter what!

Hmmm. I can't believe the way some people get carried away. 
The Broncos scored no TD's in their last game against the Browns. I believe
the Browns have a good defense, but not the best in the NFL. 

I know some people would just look at the stats and say that the offense is 
good, but you have to start with the most important stat, points.

Of course, I could be prejudice:

A Raider fan
From: mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: MNF Phil 31 Dal 7
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:35:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Oct6.133542.28160
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


O.K. Gangrene fans! :-)   Fire away and give us your best shot!


Mike
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From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Harbaugh Gets Ass Chewing
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:04:51 GMT

In article <16877A678.S900303@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU>, Joe Football writes:
> Any comments on this?

     Yes.  Ditka is a jerk.  That was the biggest
public display of immaturity I've seen since...well,
since the last time that jerk got behind a microphone.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
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From: c1h3384@rigel.tamu.edu 
Subject: Re: Dallas was beaten by bad luck, not the eagles!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:19:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.184439.9071@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes...
>In article <6OCT199216262371@rigel.tamu.edu> c1h3384@rigel.tamu.edu  writes:
>>
>>Look at last night's game, a break here and there would have turned the game
>>to the opposite direction. Eagles got all the breaks --- Cunningham fumbled
>>twice, and lost none. Dallas was bad luck, especially in the first half ---
>>Martin's kick return should go all the way to give the Cowboys's a 14-10
>>lead. Instead, he bumped with his own guy and was stopped with even resulting
>>a field goal to tie the score at 10.
> 
>Give me a break.  What you are calling "luck" is execution?  I suppose
>Dallas is the best team of all time, and can only lose when bad luck occurs.
> 
>>Besides, one weekness of the Cowboys was the rockie kicker. That made the
>>decision at the end of the first half extremely difficult for Jimmy. At
>>the eagle 33, he opted to try to draw the eagles offside on 4th down. If he
>>had a more consistent kicker, he would rather kick the field goal to tie
>>it. 
>>
>>Oh, well, I am not impressed at all by the eagles. Granted, their defense
>>is the best right now, but how about their offense? Cunningham is a so-so
>>QB, definitely not the most completed QB in the game, IMHO.
> 
>Maybe they are good, maybe they aren't.  But a 31-7 loss to me does not
>sound like a game that could go one way or another.  What is it with you
>Dallas fans that you feel the need to console yourselves like this after
>every loss?
>-- 
> 
>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu


Brian, that game was the one that COULD go one way or the other, especially
in the first half. Dallas was moving the ball at ease, and the kick return
should, SHOULD, go all the way to give dallas a 14-10 lead. 

Again, it was bad luck, NOT the eagles, who beat the Cowboys. Believe it or
not, let us see what happens when the Eagles come to twon in November. Dallas
will eat them live, LIVE!

Bob
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From: tap1040@zeus.tamu.edu (SPEED RACER)
Subject: Re: ONE QUESTION!!!!!!!!
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Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:18:00 GMT

>In article <1992Oct2.181338.19436@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> aperkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Aaron B. Perkins) writes:
>>
>>ONE QUESTION: OUT OF THE 5 TIMES ACHYMAN HAS PLAYED AGAINST THE MIGHTY EAGLES
>>HOW MANY TIMES HAS ACHYMAN WON????????
>>ALSO..... IN THE LAST GAME THE EAGLES PLAYED AT TEXAS STADIUM HOW MANY TIMES
>>DID THE MIGHTY EAGLES DEFENCE SACK ACHYMAN????????



Has anyone else noticed that this guy's name is Anthony Perkins?  No
wonder he's such a PSYCHO.

:)

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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Quarterbacks
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:30:17 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Oct6.181347.20552@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>, asagar@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ashish Sagar) writes...

>>Article 28642 of rec.sport.football.pro:
>>>The single best performance by a quarterback in a post season game (including
>>>all of Joe Montana's glory years) is by PHIL SIMMS (yay!) in the 1986 Super
>>>Bowl.  The pressed spoke of the opposing teams' great QB (Elway .. boo!) and
>>>Phil proved he belonged with the best of em going 22 for 25 for 287 yards,
>>>no interceptions.  In the second half of the game he was 10 for 10!
>>>
>>>satish nair
> 
>>BIG DEAL! Montana has played FOUR SB's without ANY INT's; he has
>>scored the most points (total); passed for more yards; HE IS THE
>                                                        ^^^^^^^^^
>>BEST!
> ^^^^^
>I second that.  He is the best QB to have played the game.

This is a foolish statement since there is no reasonable way to 
compare QBs of different eras.  (Not only that, I'd be willing to 
guess that you're too young to even remember the play of Bart Starr or 
Johnny Unitas, for example.)

>Sigh! People wont accept the truth and the flame war will begin again!!

Look, if you don't want to start a flame war just say Montana is *ONE* 
of the best ever to play the game.  Simple as that.  Saying Montana is 
*THE* best ever to play the game is insulting to fans of other 
teams.  Wouldn't you feel obligated to respond if I said Bart Starr is 
the best QB ever?  How about if I said the 60's Packers were the best 
team in the history of the NFL?

JGH
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: HALF-TIME SCORES
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:28:50 GMT

Atlanta	7			Chicago      31  * 2nd half

Chicago is rolling over the hapless Falcons. Harbaugh is
is in total control of the offense. He is using Muster,
Anderson, Davis, & Waddle effectively. YES!!
If anyone wants updates on the this game, please email me:
jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com

Disclaimer: I am a Niner fan! However, I dislike the Bears
and Falcons, but dislike the Falcons even more - GO BEARS!
BUT ---GOOOOOOOOO!  NINERRRRSSSS!!!!

Minnesota	28	   	Cincinnati    0  2nd half

Tampa Bay  10		Detroit   3     * half-time   

Buffalo	6  		New England   0   * half-time

Denver	   3			Cleveland     0   * half-time

San Diego	 0			Houston       10  * half-time
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  "I have great faith in fools - self-confidence my
   friends call it."        Edgar Allan Poe
From: brianh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Brian Huddleston)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Can Bills go 16-0?
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:17:05 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

|I'm not a fanatical Bills fan, but looking at their schedule and how good
|they've been playing, doesn't anyone else think they might go undefeated?
|
|They've already beaten the 49ers, which was probably the toughest opponent
|they'll face this year. They're averaging around 35 points per game, and
|just seem to be so far ahead of any other AFC team.
|
|-tehkao
 
Way to go man, you jinxed 'em! ;)
 
brianh@sleepy.cc.utexas.edu

From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 21:52:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Future QB of the LA Raiders...
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>I hate to differ with a colleague, but his percentage of completion
>was hardly anything to brag about. What did he throw, 59 attempts?
>Any QB that is in the NFL had better be prepared to hard knocks or the glory.  >In this case, Todd should brace himself
>for some knocks.  Rookie was written all over this dude. I think
>he would rather be surfing and doing drugs than to be on the
>firing line. Sorry, excuse--
>  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com  --------

Give me a break.  A guy who played with the second team all pre-season does
not get the snaps with the first team needed to perfect timing, routes, 
ability to predict what a receiver will do when the QB scambles etc...

Todd got all of one week to play with the first team.  He wracked up 395
yds passing and had > 50% completion.  He played for a team that gave away
14 points via turnovers that were not his fault.  The Browns knew that he
could be counted on to throw a lot given the 14 points so they put a lot
of pressure on him.

By your logic a QB who hasn't shown himself by the 3rd game should be
written off.  A 1st year Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana would be real
interested in this line of thinking.

Also IMO your 'he would rather be doing drugs' reference is total crap.
How the hell do you know?  Todd has a passion for the game.  I look for
him to get better each week.

************************************************
* Donald Boell - Hewlett Packard               *
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* When you're chewing on life's gristle        *
* Don't grumble, give a whistle - Monty Python *
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 p.s. anything is better than The Scud.
From: joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel Just)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: JJ's (was Re: Dallas *notepad**)
Date: 2 Oct 1992 00:13:52 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
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In article <1992Oct01.222429.5278@bnr.ca> reams@bnr.ca writes:
[stuff deleted]
>One More Time (we here in Dallas just got it straight): 
>Jerry Jones OWNS the Boyz.
>Jimmy Johnson COACHES the Boyz.
>Jimmy Jones is #97 on the Defensive Line
 ^^^^^
>Jerry Johnson hasn't shown up yet.

Close.  JIMMIE Jones is #97.

Other Cowboys JJ's include Jim Jeffcoat.  Did I forget anyone?

-Joel Just


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From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Subject: Raiders QBs
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:20:46 GMT

While watching the Monday night game I could have swore I heard
a moaning confession issuing from Raider fans everywhere: "We were wrong.  
We want Shroeder back.  Please give us Shroeder back.  We were wrong."

Did you hear it too? ;-)

					me
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Rypien saves Bugel's job
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:24:26 GMT

Isn't it ironic that it would be Mark Rypien rising to the occasion and
saving Joe Bugel's job in Phoenix. Maybe they were good friends and Mark
felt sorry for him. 

The first int was pretty awful, a floater that Massey easily picked for
a TD, but the second one was comical. Massey is quoted in the paper as
saying something like "I couldn't believe he threw that second one"
because Robert was sitting right there waiting for it.    

Real lucky win obviously in the sense that it took 2 huge mistakes by
Rypien and an easy miss by Lohmiller, but the Cards did make the plays
in the 4th quarter when they needed to. Big win for a team with talent
but no sense of how to win.

Next up is the Giants, a winnable game, but we're still obviously the
underdogs.




Russ Smith
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From: lmcmasc@noah.ericsson.se (Mauro Schena)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles/Cowboys
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:12:05 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Communications Inc. Montreal, Canada
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.

Congratulations to the Eagles.  I predicted that Troy Aikman and Emmit
Smith would have had a big game.  I guess I was wrong! I just think
that Troy Aikman started the game trying to force plays that weren't
there. The Cowboys are a young team and it showed towards the end of
the game when they started to lose their cool. I hope that doesn't
continue cause it's just bad sportmanship. You've got to take the good
with the bad. The Cowboys now know how much more work needs to be done
before they can be considered a super bowl contender. This post is just
to congratulate all the Eagle fans out there. I just hope you don't get
too cocky because there is always the rematch in Texas stadium.



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Mauro.
From: currie@Software.Mitel.COM (Kim Currie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Vikings/Bears
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:04:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

I'm looking for first half stats.  I had a discussion with
a friend (a Bears fan) who claims the Bears *dominated* the
first half.  I thought the Vikings moved the ball well, but
blew up with turnovers and the holding penalty.  Could someone
post or mail me the stats.  I'd also like to hear some other
views about the Vikings performance.


Kim  (Vikings fan amongst a sea of Bears fans)
From: jacobs@cerritos.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Raiders QBs
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:57:53 PST
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA

In article <1992Sep30.002046.19584@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>, ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad) writes:
> While watching the Monday night game I could have swore I heard
> a moaning confession issuing from Raider fans everywhere: "We were wrong.  
> We want Shroeder back.  Please give us Shroeder back.  We were wrong."
> 
> Did you hear it too? ;-)
> 
> 					me

No, what you heard was the cry for a team whose average age is 27, not 37. The
Raiders have a lot of players who have been great, but they are just too old
now! The team needs some fresh blood. And Todd is not the problem, he needs a
defense that will do it's job. And an offensive line that can protect him.

Karl
 
________________________________________________________________________________Karl Jacobs - Jacobs@cerritos.edu