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From: raible@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bob Raible - LSI Design)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Interlocking two LD players
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:28:11 GMT
Organization: Commodore

In article <1522@seqp4.sequoia.com> cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.034914.5923@wam.umd.edu>, dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug22.184820.14406@cis.ohio-state.edu> fontana@cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:
>> >
>> >I don't own a laserdisc player, but the following idea occurred to me:
>> >Although players exist that can play both sides of a disk, there
>> >don't seem to be any that allow you to chain multiple DISKS together
>> >using multiple LD players (provided you have the necessary $$$).  
>> 
>> If you're trying to get totally smooth transitions for movies it
>> can't be done easily. For one thing the side break on a single disk
>> is virtually impossible to do instantaneously, so in any case you're
>> going to have trouble when it changes sides.
>
>I've wondered why the two sided issue hasn't been addressed better. It
>seems to me that having two laser assemblies would solve the two sided
>problem. Only the head assembly would need to be duplicate. The rest of
>the electronics could be shared.
>
>The way I'd do it would be either two complete head assemblies (which
>has the problem of duplicating lots of mechanical positioning stuff)
>or have one assembly with a laser mounted on each side, one for side
>A, the other for side B. When the disk was loaded, first the table of
>contents on one side would be read, then the TOC for the other side.
>After side A has finished, the location to start playing side B is
>already known, and the delay would be the time it takes to reposition
>the head and search for the starting position. I would expect this to
>be worst case 2 seconds, and best case a small fraction of a second.
>
>With two complete head assemblies, you could probably have no delay
>at all (I assume that tracks begin at the same location on the two
>sides of the disks i.e. the 0 degree positions are aligned - I'm sure
>this isn't required by the standard, but it is probably normally the
>case. If it wasn't, the TBC could be used to compensate).
>
>There's nothing you can do if the source material doesn't switch
>cleanly (the annoying LaserVision swoosh comes to mind).
>
>My 3070 takes what, 10 seconds to switch sides? I find it annoying enough
>I'd pay an extra $100 for a clean side switch. A multi-disc player would
>be nice, and again I'd probably pay $100-$200 for this capability. No way
>would I pay 2x the cost to play 2 disks, 3x to play 3 disks, etc...
>
>					Paul Cantrell
>-- 
>cantrell@sequoia.com

You seem to be ignoring the fact that the reverse side of the disk is spinning
in the wrong direction. The long wait is for the disk to spin down,stop, and
spin up in the opposite direction. Oh well!
From: cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Interlocking two LD players
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:58:56 GMT
Organization: Sequoia Computer Systems

In article <1992Aug24.034914.5923@wam.umd.edu>, dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:
> In article <1992Aug22.184820.14406@cis.ohio-state.edu> fontana@cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:
> >
> >I don't own a laserdisc player, but the following idea occurred to me:
> >Although players exist that can play both sides of a disk, there
> >don't seem to be any that allow you to chain multiple DISKS together
> >using multiple LD players (provided you have the necessary $$$).  
> 
> If you're trying to get totally smooth transitions for movies it
> can't be done easily. For one thing the side break on a single disk
> is virtually impossible to do instantaneously, so in any case you're
> going to have trouble when it changes sides.

I've wondered why the two sided issue hasn't been addressed better. It
seems to me that having two laser assemblies would solve the two sided
problem. Only the head assembly would need to be duplicate. The rest of
the electronics could be shared.

The way I'd do it would be either two complete head assemblies (which
has the problem of duplicating lots of mechanical positioning stuff)
or have one assembly with a laser mounted on each side, one for side
A, the other for side B. When the disk was loaded, first the table of
contents on one side would be read, then the TOC for the other side.
After side A has finished, the location to start playing side B is
already known, and the delay would be the time it takes to reposition
the head and search for the starting position. I would expect this to
be worst case 2 seconds, and best case a small fraction of a second.

With two complete head assemblies, you could probably have no delay
at all (I assume that tracks begin at the same location on the two
sides of the disks i.e. the 0 degree positions are aligned - I'm sure
this isn't required by the standard, but it is probably normally the
case. If it wasn't, the TBC could be used to compensate).

There's nothing you can do if the source material doesn't switch
cleanly (the annoying LaserVision swoosh comes to mind).

My 3070 takes what, 10 seconds to switch sides? I find it annoying enough
I'd pay an extra $100 for a clean side switch. A multi-disc player would
be nice, and again I'd probably pay $100-$200 for this capability. No way
would I pay 2x the cost to play 2 disks, 3x to play 3 disks, etc...

					Paul Cantrell
-- 
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From: chuck@gcm.com (Chuck Claffey)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Need VCR recommendations
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:41:27 GMT
Organization: Greenwich Capital Markets, Inc.
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I am planning on buying a VCR to watch movies on which will be connected up to my
stereo as well.  I am looking for recommendations on a VCR which will be good for
this purpose.  I am not that knowledgeable when it comes to this, so I also wouldn't
mind suggestions on what sort of features are nice to have (ie is hifi sound that much
better, etc).  

Thank you
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tspyrou@vlsisj.uucp (Tom Spyrou)
Subject: Re: Features diff. between SLV595HF and SLV696HF?
Reply-To: tspyrou@vlsisj.uucp (Tom Spyrou)
Organization: Compass Design Automation/VLSI Technology, Inc. (San Jose)
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 23:13:52 GMT

Also, the 696 allows audio and video dub. That means replacing only the video,
or only the audio, or replacing both, ona section of tape with 
smooth cuts.


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From: ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3)
Subject: S-VHS VCR purchase opinions wanted
To: rec.video
Posted-Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 14: 36:01 CDT
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I'm in the market to purchase a second S-VHS VCR (I currently have a HIFI
stereo VHS VCR and a JVC HR-S5500U S-VHS VCR).  I'd like something with
jog and shuttle, but would like to keep the price under $600 or $650
(mail order).  

I've heard on here that the JVC HRS-6700 can be had for $580 mail order,
but I'm sure there are problems with it (HIFI dropouts on this model?)

Anyone have suggestions?  Email preferred, but I MIGHT see it if you post
a reply (replies seem to get lost in high-volume newsgroups like rec.video).

Thanks in advance!

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From: dchang@ra.csc.ti.com (Dardy Chang)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Pioneer LD-D701
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:36:22 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments

I'm in interested in getting the LD-D701.  About how much can I expect
this to cost?  Is there any other player comparable in price that offers
better quality?

Thanks in advance,
Dardy Chang
dchang@ra.csc.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.video,misc.consumers
From: parikh@sirocco.eng.hou.compaq.com (Vijay Parikh)
Subject: Warped Video Tape Edges
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:31:11 GMT

In article <92Aug22.153614.15470@acs.ucalgary.ca> (Witold Owoc) <wowoc@acs.ucalgary.ca> writes:
>Our Sony VHS VCR just returned from an adjustment and head cleaning.
>But... one of tapes being played in it (a rather new Disney) exhibited
>high noise so I popped it out and checked: the lower edge became warped
>(elongated and slighly damaged - looks like a flounce).
>When I had brought the unit to a shop I had took with me a tape (top
>Sony), with the same type of damage, and had showed to a guy - but he
>had just exchanged it for another one (had said bad tape batch).
>
>Now I assume that I can only convince them to look at the problem
>when I am able to name it using proper technical terms, so
> What type of misalignment causes such damage ?
> How to check for such misalignment ?
>
>Thank you in advance for any help,
>                                  Witold Owoc <wowoc@acs.ucalgary.ca>
>
>P.S. It is SLV-R5US. And after closer examination 1/4 of the tape stock
>     we own is (slightly) damaged - including top Fuji and S-VHS Sony.
>     Some are camera originals... :-(
>__
>#disclaimer "my.private.views"

I own Panasonic 4-head stereo VCR which I cleaned by myself.  Yes, I did
follow the wise tips I found on the net on how to clean the VCR.  I was
extra careful on the pressure I applied to clean video heads and I also
cleaned the video heads in the direction of the drum movement (not up & down).

I think I still did not do a good job and ended up misaligning the video
heads (I think :-().  Every now & then, I get a lot of noise (video and audio)
from the tape I rent.  I pop up the lid and see the edge being warped.
The surprising thing is that it does not happen to all cassettes.  Some
tapes are already warped prior to my playing them in my VCR so the problem
must be happening to other folks also.

What is the solution other than totaling my $500 VCR?

thanks!

Vijay Parikh
From: bbb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: So...Quiz me this...
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:08:33 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Quiz Me This.
Is $7.99 each ($79.90/10) for Maxell  XRS-120  (SVHS-T120) blank tapes
an acceptable price?  Plus S&H of course.
E-Mail WELCOME, and preferred.
Thanks.
BB

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: strike@steam.rome.ny.us (Strikemaster)
Subject: Re: S-video?
Organization: Iron Horse InfoSys
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 18:36:39 GMT

jywong@sybase.com (John Wong) writes:

>I'm trying to determine if it is worth getting a SVHS machine where
>my main use would be for storing television shows (no camcorder..yet).

Absolutely!  I've never regretted buying my HS-5500 (JVC) SVHS recorder for
archiving TV movies and programs.  Even at EP speeds, it beats SP VHS
hands-down everytime.

My sole regret about SVHS in general is not stretching for a better unit.
For all of it's good features, the HS-5500 is pretty lousy for editing
purposes.
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From: mn940044@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Mathew Nieberger)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Interlocking two LD players
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:54:05 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <1522@seqp4.sequoia.com> cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:
>I've wondered why the two sided issue hasn't been addressed better. It
>seems to me that having two laser assemblies would solve the two sided
>problem. Only the head assembly would need to be duplicate. The rest of
>the electronics could be shared.
>
>The way I'd do it would be either two complete head assemblies (which
>has the problem of duplicating lots of mechanical positioning stuff)
>or have one assembly with a laser mounted on each side, one for side
>A, the other for side B. When the disk was loaded, first the table of
>contents on one side would be read, then the TOC for the other side.
>After side A has finished, the location to start playing side B is
>already known, and the delay would be the time it takes to reposition
>the head and search for the starting position. I would expect this to
>be worst case 2 seconds, and best case a small fraction of a second.

  You forgot that the disc must spin down and re-spinup in the opposite 
direction to read the "TOP" of the disc. If this wasn't the case then
the disc would be incompatible with the single sided players that only
spin in one direction. If you are confused on this issue just think of
the almost outdated Vinyl Records. How would you build a double sided 
turntable since all info is read from the top with the platter spinning 
clockwise ( thus leading to a concurrent counter-clockwise spin when looked
at from below ).

I hope that this helps.

- Matt 

--------------------------------------------------------
  Mathew Nieberger <mn940044@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu>
  Graduate Student, Electrical Engineering
  Colorado State University
  Ft. Collins, CO  80523
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From: bov@x.co.uk (Andy Bovingdon)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: LaserDisk Storage and ROT (FAQ question?)
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:07:16 GMT
Organization: IXI Ltd.


Er, I am new to this game, what are the symptoms of rot? how can I
tell If my discs have it?

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From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: rec.video,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: TV to VGA / VGA to video
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:30:55 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.


I recently have seen a couple items of interest to me, and am
wondering whether or not my idea will work... 

The first is a VGA adaptor which has a standard video out jack (NTSC,
since I am in the US). How does the picture look?  I realize that it
won't be as good as on a VGA monitor, but all things considered, is it
any good?

The Second is a adaptor which allows you to watch TV on your VGA
screen. Is the picture smooth looking, or does it get choppy? (the
unit I saw was for $299, 16 bit interface) Again, this was NTSC.

Now, here is the reason I cross posted to rec.video. My idea is to buy
the VGA/NTSC card, and the PAL version of the TV on VGA card. Since
VGA is, to my knowledge, an independant standard, will this work well,
or will it work AS well as (or better than) the AIWA 7 bit digital
conversion unit?

Theroetically, my idea should work, but is it practical? Will the
video signal be smooth or jerkey? Have I been supplied FALSE
information on what VGA is?

Note: both cards illegedly support SVGA.

Please try to reply, and I will try to post a summary of the responses
I get. (Probably in a paraphrased form)

Lastly, If I can, I plan on trying NTSC -> VGA -> NTSC tonight to see
how it works, and use that as an indicator of NTSC -> VGA -> PAL,
provided that VGA is TRULY an independant video standard.

						John
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From: tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: PAL in USA
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:02:16 GMT
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland, Laboratory for Information
	Processing (VTT/TIK)

In article <1992Aug27.140114.21427@hsr.no> vagle@hsr.no (Lars Vagle) writes:
   I was just wondering. A friend of mine buys a lot of video casettes
   from USA and they are all on NTSC.  He says they're not awailable
   in PAL.

   So the question is: Do the Americans really care about PAL users,

(I guess you mean American video distributors, not American people in
general...)

Why would they? Not very many Europeans have the slightest interest in
ordering videos from the US. It is after all much more complicated
than going down to the local video rental outlet and pick up a
cassette for the night.

Also, remember that the rights to movies are signed over to the video
distributor on a per-country basis. Many of my American (NTSC)
LaserDiscs say "for sale only in the US and Canada" (but that doesn't
stop mail order firms from exporting them). If some American video
sitributor would start making PAL versions for the explicit purpose of
exporting to PAL territories, I am sure that the movie companies
wouldn't like it. The movie companies have deals with local
distributors in each country.
--
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Brazil (WS) LD
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Distribution: rec.video
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:44:03 GMT

In article <BOV.92Aug27102116@essex.x.co.uk> bov@x.co.uk (Andy Bovingdon) writes:
>
>A recent posting asked if the Wall and Brazil were about on LD. The replies
>were only about the Wall, does this mean that Brazil does not exist on LD.
>This film has to be one of my all time favorites, so does a version,
>preferably widescreen, actually exist???

1) BRAZIL was not filmed with an extreme widescreen (anamorphic) process
according to what I can find about it.  It was probably filmed in a
1.85:1 (or so) ratio and may have had the mattes opened up for 1.33
presentation on video.  So the current versions may show all the image
available, just not what was presented in the theater.

2) The real issue with Brazil is that various length versions exist.
The U.S. release and homevideo version is 131m long.  According to 
Maltin's Movie and Video Guide this was cut from an original 142m
"European" release cut and is 137m long.  Sounds like a job for
CRITERION-MAN!  And rumor has it that they are planning a release
of the European cut (whatever length that is) -probably matted to the
correct theatrical presentation ratio.

4) BRAZIL has been released on laser disc in the U.S. by MCA (#40171,
$40) in the 131m version.  It was available 2 years ago - I am not sure
if it is currently in print, but some stores have it.

5) BRAZIL has been released on LD at 137m in Japan by Warner/Evergreen
(#NJL-38504, Y5871).  I am unsure of its current availablity in Japan
(LD availability in Japan could generate a news thread by itself), however
Ken Crane's recently had it for $61.50 including shipping which is not bad
considering that the Yen price translates to $47 (@125 Y/$).  Many U.S. 
dealers put far greater markups on Japanese import discs.

I have both discs but have not had time to compare the two scene-for-
scene (Japanese one just recently acquired).  Both transfers leave
something to be desired, though; they tend to be foggy and blurred.
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: fineberg@win31.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
Subject: Re: Seeking info on a 10 year old video disk player
Organization: CSC, NASA Ames Research Center, NAS Division
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 18:03:13 GMT
Reply-To: fineberg@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: usa

In article <BRIANH.92Sep4092220@pdx031.intel.com>, brianh@pdx031.intel.com (Brian Holscher) writes:
|> I bought for $5.00 a working (I think) Sears CED Video Disk Player.
|> The model number is (get this): 934.54780150
|> 
|> I want to know if it plays standard laser disks or something else.  I have
|> no manual or any other information.  I did rent a laser disk to try out.
|> However, I noticed that a round disk would not turn the unit on.  It looks
|> like it takes some sort of cartridge or caddy that you put the disk in
|> first.  
|> 
|> HELP!  Can somebody tell me anything about this beast?
|> 
|> Brian Holscher
|> brianh@ichips.intel.com
I hope they charged you for the damage to the disk after this experiment.

Sam
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Review: :XV-M30
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:14:06 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Sep3.161149.1@us.oracle.com>, eoates@us.oracle.com writes:
> I've tried to locate this unit in the SF Bay area, but the usual places (good
> guys, Anderson's, etc.) don't have it.  Where is it available by mail order,
> and how much $$$?

I got mine from Computability for $350.  Try...

Computability	800.558.0003	414.357.8181
Planet		800.222.5650	313.453.4750
CWO		800.222.1557	503.227.6008
B&H		800.221.5662	212.807.7474
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: S-VHS vs regular video output
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:12:16 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
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mpalmer@encore.com (Mike Palmer) writes:

>> gimick (except for the $3500 Pioneer LD-S2).

> Why would this be any different?  Just a better converter/filter?

The "composite" output on the LD-S2 is recombined after the internal Y/C sep
is done with it.  If you use composite on the LD-S2, you get to perform Y/C
sep twice, once in the player and again in the TV.  Furthermore, the sep
circuits in the 'S2 are considered state-of-the-art for LD, and would
probably be superior to anything in your TV.

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From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Image lowers prices on 400-500 titles to $19.98!
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:23:46 GMT
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starr@dpe.enet.dec.com (Alan Starr) writes:

> Also, Pioneer has just lowered the prices on some of their catalog, down to
> $24.95-29.95. A sampling of those titles include Lawrence Of Arabia, Close
> Encounters of the Third Kind, The Big Chill, Tootise, Dr. Strangelove,
> About Last Night, Taxi Driver, Stand By Me, Absence of Malice, and Midnight 
> Express.


Five of those nine are also available from Voyager/Criterion.
Coincidence?

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