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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Hiroshima and Nagasaki!
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:48:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.ofHz3Lq00UhWQ0xFJg
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Freinds,

.

          It is of a fact that America and the allies did nothing while
we Japanese sent streaks of horror from almost every man, woman and
child in the rest of Asia. The Imperialist even had it own citizens in
fear. I remember the stories of all reports of fathers and sons that
came backthey were dead. And, For what? A fastasy! A power fetish! An
ego trip! Sure, the die hards can say that we owned most of Asia but
look what we readed during and after. Death! The smelly stencth of death
followed us until the end. How is it possible for one to say that they
love their followmen but sent them to their death! It was the same
philosophy that convinced Ko-ryuan to kill Ko-ryan. The same philosophy
that told general Westmoreland to lie to his people about the fate and
status of the enemy. As I said before I have a grudge. The more that
time passes the more I come to the realization of how naive the Japanese
were.

 The U.S. didn't have to drop the bomb on Nippon to get it to surrender.
That bomb could have been drop in the sea and shown to the Japanese. But
after all the recognition and "business" that we gave to the Americans
and Europeans during our bloody occupation of most of Asia. They feel
that we were getting and passing their "Cultural Superiority". The same
is prevalent today! We can't even made a better radio than they without
the "economic war cries"! But, we do!

Each night I pray for the lives of all the humans who died at this time.
And, I really, really regret that we were involved in the horrific
crimes and tradegies
that we as a people committed. Hiroshima and Nagasaki was our fault too.
We didn't see or fight against or felt proud toward(which ever catagory
you were in) our leaders. We just followed. I think each annversery of
Hiroshima and Nagasaki- of the live that was blinked out! The innocent
children. People, who just like us in our daily lives, wash clothes,
eat, look at a watch, feed the kids. Gone! In a second! With only ash
shadows on nearby walls or the ground to remind of the fact that they
ever existed. We did this! I have a grudge at Nippon(and the Axis) and
the Allies for the wanton destruction of humanity during this period. 

                              Hiroshima and Nagasaki! 

Like brothers you sit in time.
My mind is full of screams
those same screams that you inflicted
on the innocent. Those same screams! The
men. The Children. The sisters, mothers and dauthers
gone with a blink of an eye. Hiroshima Nagasaki.
How can I forget- You!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: an3936@anon.penet.fi (Silly Question)
Subject: Re: Japanese women, foreign men
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.japan
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:14:07 GMT

In article <27569@sybase.sybase.com> you write:
>The pheremone theory is interesting but not persuasive.  Smells
>may get people interested in each other but are insufficient to
>sustain anything more long-lasting.  
>
>A much more likely explanation can be found in the way foreign men
>treat Japanese women.   Even a very modest (by western standards)
>level of kindness and consideration can seem very attractive to
>a woman who has not experienced this before.  From my own limited
>observations I think that these behavioral differences are far more
>important than diet, smell or the type of car one drives.

I have a funny experience to relate on why some Japanese women like foreign
men. The most violent sexual response I have ever got from a woman was when
I (as a joke, initially) rubbed the bridge of my (definitely gaijin) nose
directly on my (Japanese) girlfriend's clitoris. I just about had my ears torn 
off (she was giving me "directions"), but the spasms going through her body
had to be seen to be believed.

Anonymously,
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From: jice@echo.asd.sgi.com (John Eisenman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese pop music
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:50:38 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: echo.asd.sgi.com

In article <C0MzyA.G8I@unix.amherst.edu>, jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu
(jesse fuchs) writes:
|> 
|> 	I'm interested in hearing some Japanese rock, having had my
|> appetite
|> whetted by the magnificient Shonen Knife. Where can I order some
|> from, and 
|> what do all you out there recommend? 

You might try an album by Sekiri.  They are a 4 women band that has been
compared to Shonen Knife -- maybe because there are also popular outside
of Japan.  They have a harder edge to their sound -- more punk and less
cutesy.

--
John Eisenman (jice@sgi.com)

Silicon Graphics Computer Systems
7U-550
2011 N. Shoreline Blvd.		
P.O. Box 7311		
Mt. View, CA 94039-7311		

(415) 390-1551
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: bbs.lar@tsoft.net (Larry Greenfield)
Subject: *Subaru Gone?*
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:28:44 GMT

I know that Daihatsu has left the U.S. car market, that Isuzu will be 
leaving the car market (but still make sport utility vehicles).
  But what I didn't know was a small mention of Subaru in this week's 
Time magazine. It said that Subaru (Fuji Heavy Industry) motors is slowly 
being absorbed by Nissan. I had never heard of this before. Can someone 
give some more information on this? Is this correct?  Will Subaru become 
part of Nissan,or what?
:::::Larry:::::

--
Larry Greenfield (bbs.lar@tsoft.net)
From: ee52fbc@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Frankenstein: American enemy
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:20:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.43197
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <AfHL9Qa00Uh_40wh9F@andrew.cmu.edu> ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
> Now, take me for example, I know that during that civil rights movement
>most of you(Caucasians) looked upon the suffering of the Black Americans
>with glee in your eyes. I can tell how segregated that I am treated as
>in relation to some of the liberal black opinions that I share and stand
>for. Not because they are political or "black" but because they are
>fair.

	Please, Rikiya (or whatever your name is)... do not go
around generalizing about other people like this. I am white, and I
most certainly DO NOT look upon the suffering and discrimination of
others (be they minorities or not) with happiness!!! You are being
quite racist yourself making generalizations like this about ANY
race. You are becoming part of the problem, my dear.
	Perhaps this has to do with the other discussion going on
nowadays, but... generalization of people based on race, WHETHER YOU
ARE SAYING THAT RACE IS INFERIOR OR SUPERIOR, is racism, and I don't
agree with it. Sure, it might not hurt quite as much for someone to
be told "All Chinese are wonderful people" or "All the Koreans are
very fair" or "White people are all beautiful", but in the long run
it does just as much damage. People are individuals.

> In the two months that I have been in this group only TWO..TWO
>[Black Americans] 
>felt comfortable with their appearence.

	Hmm. Well, *I* know plenty of people who are just fine with
their appearance, but, this does happen. It doesn't only happen in
the US though. Going to Japanese schools and never seeing any other
white people where I lived, I always thought that I was very ugly
person - my nose is a bit large and my hair and eyes are a funny
color. No one has to SAY you look funny, but if you are the only one
who looks like you do and you are always sticking out, this attitude
can develop. It's not a good one to have though, and I am always
trying to get rid of it. (A kinda interesting thing - I was so used
to looking different that even when I moved here and now I look like
lots of other people, I couldn't shake the idea that I was funny
looking. It takes a while to leave.)
> It is
>just as much White America's fault because they are comfortable that
>their own citizens are treated with such prejudice while they themselves
>get turned away from a few bars or restuarants. 

Again, please do not overgeneralize. I am white, and I DO NOT feel
this way at all. I bet now you will say "but, you didn't grow up the
same" or some such. Yep... and how can you judge what circumstances
anyone grew up under, or what their beliefs are, without knowing
them? That's my point.

	Maiko Covington (more than a little peeved)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Not a Myth at All
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:29:16 GMT

In article <C0Hy5J.K80@ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.160939.1571@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>>>If TOEFL is not a racist exam, how a discrimination by Japanese basaed on
>>>language difference is racist?
>
>>Since when does anyone have to take a language test to enter a store? A bar?
>>Any store? (Except of course, in Japan, where this is not at all racist, as
>>you are assuring us.)
>
>   I'm afraid that you keep missing the point. It is not a matter of taking
>an exam. It is a matter of benefit that you could get from a command of
>language.

If that is the point, they why do you try to state that the TOEFL is racist?

>> You are claiming that it is OK to require a language test of
>>a customer.
>
>   I'd appreciate it if you could stop putting your words into my mouth.
>I am claiming that if you have the better command of Japanese, chances are
>higher that you could deal with the shopowner who is reluctant to deal with
>a customer who cannot communicate in Japanese.

Then please address the issue; if there is "No foreigners" sign, how does a
Japanese shopkeeper even know whether there is going to be a language problem.
It's racist, pure and simple.
 
>>>  BTW, what would you think about the "irezumi okotowari" (No tattooed person
>>>allowed) policy that you might have seen just below "gaijin okotowari"?
>   
>>Never saw those signs; I'm told they are more common in Kansai.
>
>  So..., your answer to the question is?

What, if anything, does it have to do with racism? Unless you mean there may
be a "race" of tattoed people somewhere.

>>> What I'm trying to say is that it is possible
>>>that the Japanese "racism" has different reasons compared with the American
>>>or South African racism.
>
>>Sure you are.
>
>  Good to know that you finally realized it.
>
>  BTW, just to clear my thought, why Afro-Ameircans were discriminated against
>in the US?

It's called racism.

>>>>Mike
>>>>-- 
>>>>Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
>>>>one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
>>>>deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
>>>>conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
>
>>>Or c)
>
>>Nope. It's a binary system.
>
>  I didn't know that you wanted to make me your wife so desperately...

I don't. You're a type 'a'.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
From: wsbusup2@rw8.urc.tue.nl (Boudewijn Wayers)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Who knows Tsutsumi or Mori
Keywords: puzzle
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:00:29 GMT
Reply-To: wsbusup2@urc.tue.nl

I am working on a puzzle for which I need to finish a sequence of
probably Japanese names. The names Mori and Tsutsumi have been given
and I need a third name to finish it. If you know the answer, please let
me know via e-mail. If I get an answer I will post it to this group.

Thanks in advance, Boudewijn Wayers.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: schneid@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Subject: Re: Recipe for Okonomiyaki?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:49:18 GMT

I've used a recipe from "Sundays at the Moosewood Restaurant".
It was pretty good.  If you can't get a hold of that, mail
me and I'll send it to you.


-- 
!!! Mike Schneider *** schneid@jerry.stat.uiuc.edu !!!
!!!     Assistant Manager of Systems Services      !!!
!!!            Department of Statistics            !!!
!!!   University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign   !!!
From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Offered: GIFs of Naked Rie Miyazawa
Date: 13 Jan 93 05:18:18 GMT
Organization: Ritz International, Inc. -- Import/Export Consultants
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Cathy Atwood (cb522@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
OS/2> 
OS/2> My 2 cents--I don't know about morals, appropriateness of 
OS/2> posting, or any other factors.  But this makes me uncomfortable.
OS/2> There are getting to be a number of threads and a number of
OS/2> posters which I have to remember to bypass.  I used to be able
OS/2> to just have all the new postings from soc.culture.japan moved
OS/2> to a file to read later.  But that was months ago.  Maybe you 
OS/2> folks don't care that I have to do the selection process.  Or
OS/2> maybe more of you should consider that some women are
OS/2> uncomfortable, or even offended, by what men say about women.

Perhaps I misread the original post, but I don't think the poster
even offered to post the files on this group.  If I am not mistaken,
he offered to email them to those who asked.

What's the big deal?

Chris

--
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From: stu1d46@bnr.ca (Victor Koa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Miho Nakayama
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:53:19 GMT
Reply-To: stu1d46@bnr.ca (Victor Koa)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Hi, I was just wondering if someone could update me on the
Japanese popstar scene, such as telling me who is 'Wand' in
'Miho Nakayama & Wand'?

Also, I'm a recent fan of Miho Nakayama, mainly because
I like 'her' and her songs.  But I know very little about
her history and I also need an update on her as well.
A few years back, I heard that she was going to get
married.  Well, did she?

Anyways, could anyone give a detailed story about her,
or at least a brief one.  My Internet e-mail is not
working yet, so just post it in the Newsgroup please.
Thank you.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: What is culture? (was: Brainwashied
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:19:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan06.224127.7216@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:
.....
>So, you admit that bowing is better than both spear-shaking and
>hand-offering in that it is neither threatening nor offensive (nor
>likely to spread germs)? This was in fact something I was considering.
>Bowing may be the "best" method humans have developed to greet each
>other.

     I wonder when each of those methods for greeting were invented.
When did human beings start bowing, hand-shaking, or spear-shaking?

     My naive thought tells me that many of greetings were derived from
a gesture that expresses the lack of intention to attack the opponent.
For example, shaking hands would mean, "I don't have any weapon in my
hand", and bowing would mean, "I am trusting you so much that I could
even give you an opportunity to chop off my head." I wonder if there was 
any specific reason why some culture adopted, say, hand-shaking, instead of
bowing, or vice versa.

--Michiaki
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:53:53 GMT

In article <4146@randvax.rand.org> edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
>In article <C0Cz4r.2yM@world.std.com> cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond) writes:
>>. . . . The move on the part of "Japan" toward economic hegemony first imposes
>>its costs on the Japanese people in order to gain advantage on others. This
>>leads to such seeming contradictions as a disastrous home economy at the same
>>time as record trade imbalances.
>
>What contradiction?  The recent increase in the trade imbalance is to a
>large extent the result of troubles in the home economy.  Imports (into
>Japan) are way down as a result.  Exports have changed little of late--
>in fact, part of the cause of their economic problems is that their
>industry overestimated demand.
>
>The Japanese economy is in for quite a bumpy ride, in the short term.
>
>Personally, I'm more worried about China, whose economy is growing so
>explosively that it could well overtake Japan's in the next two decades.
>The Japanese might wind up looking positively genteel in comparison.

And let's not ignore India, a nation beginning to throw off some of their old
socialist ways in some sectors of the economy. Some US firms are dumping some 
of their software development jobs into India now, and the trend is expected to 
pick up in the future. Then of course, Mexico is industrializing rapidly, 
Brazil has an amazing potential, etc.

Anyway, the 2 things that really annoy me about the "We gotta do something
about the Japanese NOW!" alarmists is that they are about 10 - 15 years late,
and are ignoring the future. Japan gave plenty of signs of becoming an 
economic giant long ago (as China and other nations are doing now), and yet
these signs were ignored as we continued to produce mediocrity in the areas
the Japanese were targetting. Now, as the alarmists are targetting the unfair
Japanese, they are ignoring the challenges we will face from other parts of
the world in the not-so-distant future.

Nor should these changes/challenges be considered necessarily bad. The world
is full of places that could benefit from better and more stable economies,
and the developed nations will benefit from the increased political stability
these regions may then enjoy. This will make it easier for at least some of our
big businesses to plan things more long term if they are not worried about
regional dictators, the coup du jour, insurgents, etc. It WILL mean we will 
have to work just a BIT harder, and a BIT better than we have in the past. But
since when is America afraid of such a challenge?

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: Manjit_Bedi@mindlink.bc.ca (Manjit Bedi)
Subject: Japanese Authors translated to English
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:45:40 GMT

I just picked up a book today called "Kitchen" by Banana Yoshimoto.
I am not kidding; her first name is stated as Banana.  Has any of her
other works been translated to eigo (English)?  So far an interesting
read.  The book contains two 'novellas'.  As I read the book, I wonder
what the original Japanese must have been like.  The characters still
have Japanese names of course.  Definetly a bit different but that is why
it appeals to me.  The book has just come out I think and it is published
by Grove Press.  The front cover shows a Japanese woman on it and I
wonder if it the actual author of the book.  Usually the author of a
work of fiction would have his/her photo on the inside back flap of the
book or the on the back cover of the book.

Anyone else out there got some favorite books by Japanese authors?
--
        Manjit Bedi
                ( Manjit_Bedi@mindlink.bc.ca or manjit@inde.bc.ca )
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: What is Culture?
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:35:46 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


=> In article <7603@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
=> >I even made my own case for an objective morality, (which no one else,
=> >including those who are so upset by racism, would do) and still don't want
=> >to apply it to aspects of cultural comparisons. This is not inconsistent.

In article <2644@usna.NAVY.MIL>, wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL 
(Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
=> Perhaps I've missed some things, but I don't remember seeing this case.
=> I would still like to see you give an example of what you consider an
=> objective moral judgment and explain why you consider it objective.
=> 
=> BTW I did give my own standard of validity for moral principles (the survival
=> criterion).

(I forwarded a copy of my post to Mr. Withers)

Yes... thank you. I enjoyed your theory of survival of the fitest
for moral principles. It rings true to some degree.

- Bill Lambert
From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: brainwashed
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:04:39 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

In article <1i8dsrINNjfb@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> keis@psy.uwa.oz.au 
(Keis Ohtsuka) writes:

  >RE: Japanese female news anchorpersons

  >Never mind how brilliant Ms Andow is as a journalist on the Fuji Evening
  >News. Whimsical viewers switch channels to other TV stantions to
  >watch X-"chan" because she is more esthetically pleasing.  
  >Have you ever wondered what the marital status of a male anchor person
  >is?  

No, can't say I have ever wondered about the marital status of a male
anchorperson.  Never crossed my mind and doesn't now.  Can't say I have
any fantasies of accidentally getting hit by a male anchor's chauffeured
Toyota Celsior, being brought to the byooin, sent flowers by him, then
falling into a romance with the dude. ;-).

However, having a female celebrity crush my toe with her spiked heel
on a crowded train on the Yamanote line ain't great for reality either.
:-)

Jaa, James
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera)
Subject: Re: bad idea to post pictures of Miyazawa Rie
Organization: Michigan Technological University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:34:48 GMT

jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley) writes:
: Thats what the "K" Key is for....if you dont like the subject, DONT
: READ IT.  Come on, a 25 character msg with a title, is that a waste
: of bandwidth? 
: 
: This newsgroup is UPTIGHT. You wouldnt believe the requests Ive gotten
: from Japanese netters, ladies too.  Over there, they JUST DONT SEE
: WHATS MAKING YOU WHITE GUYS SO UPTIGHT!
: 
: 

And I don't see what makes you so bigotted to assume that those complaining
are white. 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan