From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Newsgroups: alt.visa.us
Subject: Re: How about alt.visa.can?
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:52:13 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Jul30.035313.29648@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens) writes:
>>rlerdorf@netcom.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) writes:
>>>
>>>Canada is also not picky about multiple citizenships and I would 
>>>assume the same would apply to multiple permanent residencies.
>> 
>>I am sure that Canada doesn't care about you being a permanent 
>>resident in other countries *if you are actually in Canada*.
>
>I'm told by people who are landed immigrants (a term that I don't
>like as much as permanent resident though more descriptive, much
>better than resident alien anyways ... ah, definitions!) going to
>school here in the States is that they have one of the few excuses
>to "freeze" the clock counting towards their citizenship ... else,
>the clock starts ticking BACKWARDS and Immigration Canada knows of
>it when you come back into the country from abroad (I don't know
>whether there is a short period in which the clock merely freezes,
>or if it starts decrementing immediately -- certainly an incentive
>not to cross-border shop too often! (-;).


Now that sounds interesting.  Where would the 18 months of "practical
training" fit in there, though?  I'll have ti find that out.

As for landed immigrants, I am pretty sure that they were already
called 'Permanent Residents' when I arrived in Canada in 1982.

The good thing about 'Aliens' is that it gives the census people a fit
when you say "Aliens" where they ask about race on the census form.
And no, don't even try asking whether as a non-resident alien, you are
supposed to return a form; You'll get a monkey *as usual* who
doesn't know, doesn't care and tell you that you should.  But when,
after having stated "alien" for race on the form, you get a phone call
enquiring,  and you tell them that yes, you are a non-resident alien and 
you don't really care about their racist state of apartheid by consent,
they stop to ask questions quick and your form goes to the waste
basket.

Other stories about non-resident aliens: try collect unemployment
insurance in California if you are the J-2 depndent allowed to
work (and subject to social security tax...)  They would tell you
that your Social Security Card might be false, and insist upon
furnishing an alien number (for resident aliens).  Even though
immigration regulations were that an ID picture plus a SS card
were sufficient proof of being authorized to work.

(With the new immigration law, BTW, the way EDD used to deal with that
sort of issues would be deemed to constitute harassment).

But anyway, having been denied unemployment insurance benefit, in the
case I am talking about, the person appealed and the administrative
judge found that she 'had shown a lot of papers that all looked
quite real and official and clearly showed that she was a
resident (!!!) alien, thus allowed to work.'

I bet the bastard knew full well what was going on but did not
want to create a precedent that would have forced EDD to accept
all the illegal aliens with false social security card at
face value.  I wonder what they do now with the new law...

But the best is, the other day, my wife got summons for jury
duty in California, that the idiots at the Post Office forwarded
to us in Canada!

Luc
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