From: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (have clue, will travel)
Subject: Re: Split this group?
Followup-To: rec.games.netrek,alt.games.xtrek
Reply-To: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Ghost Of Christmas Past Society
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:39:07 GMT


adc@tardis.msu.edu (Alan D. Cabrera) writes:

>If splitting the newsgroup means saving me from wading through the
>pathetic sophomoric diatribe that's typically posted, it's worth it; my
>k-key is worn out.

So, we can either permanently alter the format of the group and start a batch
of "That article doesn't belong here, it belongs in rec.games.netrek.___" flame
wars, or Alan can buy a new k-key.

Hmmm.  Wonder which is easier?

>No one can argue that we don't have the volume to
>make it worthwile; 60-70 articles a day is a lot of traffic.

*BZZZZT!*  Thank you for playing, Contestant One, we have some lovely
parting gifts...

It's more than alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork gets, but it's far from
the danger level.  Take a look at talk.bizarre, just to name an example,
if you want to see a high traffic level.

Then again, DON'T get too close to talk.bizarre. They'd eat you alive.

>One article, by Suzanne Soroczak, that starts a flurry of responses
>begins with:
>	"I am really getting really tired of all of you people with
>	sticks up your ass."

And a fine article it was.  Brought tears to my eyes.

>I don't believe that anyone can argue that articles of this nature are
>not uncommon and, unfortunately, increasing.

We're also in the midst of a fiercely-competitive tournament.  Gee, I wonder
why tensions might be flaring up more often...

>My point is that I'm tired of it and would like to split the group so
>freshmen can exercise their newfound freedom on one group and I can
>read evenhanded discussions on another.  If no one else in this group
>agrees with me that the level of garbage being generated in this group
>is getting ridiculous, then there's no point in arguing for splitting
>the group and I'm sorry for wasting your time.

Freshman?  *ahem*  Son, these are senior-level flamewars... ;)

If you're that tired of it, put the most flagrant offenders in a killfile
by user.  You know by know who sends legitimate articles and who sends
irreverent "garbage", by your definition; or, just kill the words "Exodus",
"sunscreamer", "MUCUS", "Cookie Monster", and "scum", which should just about
do it for the topics you dislike.

One man's garbage is another man's dinner.  If you subscribe, caveat emptor.

>> Then again, I can think of a few good subgroups...
>>
>> rec.games.netrek.inl *
>> rec.games.netrek.flame *
>> rec.games.netrek.nbr *

>I propose 
>	rec.games.netrek.announce
>	rec.games.netrek.inl
>	rec.games.netrek.client
>	rec.games.netrek.server
>	rec.games.netrek.d

So he takes out the ONE slightly-legitimate flame-related group I proposed! :)

To quote Mojo:
NO
NO
NO
NO,
and NO.

>Any comments?

It is NOT worth months of aggravating effort, voting flamewars, bitching
sessions about What the New Groups Should Be and assorted bullshit (which
WILL double the traffic in the group, mark my words) for the sake of easing
the burden on one guy's k-key.

Follow-ups to this thread x-posted to alt.games.xtrek, to liven it up a little.

				--Lt. Cmdr. Don Ho's Crotch, NCSU
				--"Get a clue.  Grow a clue.  Save up for a
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                         jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu 
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in Chapel Hill, while opening for Mojo Nixon & The Toad Liquors