From: aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Trilateral commission
Date: 7 Nov 1992 09:56:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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This is the first of three posts on the TLC. I posted this last
week, but it may have been missed. It is from a discussion on
Prodigy

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         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    10/31  2:42 PM
 
TO:      NANCY HOPKINS   (HGNR50B)
FROM:    ANNA PAUL   (WDBS78A)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV-TC MEMBERS
 
Hi Nancy,                                1439 hrs.est  10/31
   Thank you for your inquiry. The criticism of the         
Trilateral Commission also applies to the Coincil on Foreign
Relations & the World Constitution & Parliament Association.
As is my custom I will let the TC speak for itself. The     
following pamphlet was published in 1977.                   
"The Triangle papers: 14 - Summary. TOWARDS A RENOVATED     
INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM by Richard N. Cooper, Karl Kaiser, &   
Masataka Kosada. The Trilateral Commission-A Private North  
American-European-Japanese Initiative on Matters of Common  
Concern."                                                   
   On the first page is: "The Trilateral Commission was     
formed in 1973 by private citizens of Western Europe, Japan,
and North America to foster closer cooperation among these  
three regions on common problems. It seeks to improve public
understanding of such problems, to support proposals for    
handling them jointly, and to nurture habits and practices  
of working together among these regions."                   
"SUMMARY OF THE REPORT OF THE TRILATERAL INTEGRATORS TASK   
FORCE-Towards a Renovated International System. This report,
written after the first three years of the Trilateral       
Commission, is a broad overview of the process of renovating
the international order. The international order created    
after World War II is no longer adequate to cope with new   
global problems and processes of change. To be sure, the    
international order has not collapsed under the strains of  
this decade, but the legacy of this period is a much sharper
questioning of the features of the existing system and how  
it functions.                                               
   The most pervasive characteristic of the current         
situation is the steady expansion and tightening of the web 
on interdependence. Management of interdependence has become
indespensable for world order, particularly given its dual  
character: Intensive integration between societies at       
various levels is essential for economic well-being, but it 
produces or threatens mutual interference across national   
frontiers, interference which may jeopardize its very       
advantages. Interdependence complicates the management of   
the modern welfare state, transmitting problems from other  
countries and interfering with national priorities and      
policies. Conversely, the management of interdependence is  
inevitably complicated by conflicting national priorities.  
Moreover, current arrangements are severely criticized by   
many developing countries, which demand a greater say in    
international decision-making and a more equitable sharing  
of benefits from the world economy.                         
   The requisite cooperation for both the short and long    
term must be based on the shared conviction that it         
maximizes overall gain and increases the welfare of all     
those involved. Such cooperation faces major obstacles,     
however, which a realistic strategy must take into account: 
the desire for national autonomy, the impact of domestic    
politics, disparities in conditions among countries, and the
sheer number of countries.                                  
   What principles should guide the trilateral countries in 
their approach to management of our increasingly            
interdependent world? With its numerous complexities and    
uncertainties, the temptation will be strong to adopt a     
completely pragmatic approach; in short, to "play it by     
ear." The trilateral countries should surmount this limited 
view and have in mind a broader strategy for the management 
of interdependence."  Paragraph continued in next reply>>>>>



PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service         11/01/92        11:14 PM

         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    10/31  8:42 PM
 
TO:      NANCY HOPKINS   (HGNR50B)
FROM:    ANNA PAUL   (WDBS78A)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV-TC MEMBERS
 
Hi Nancy,                                                   
  Continuation of "Towards a Renovated International System.
"At the same time, however, large-scale detailed blueprints 
for action are too ambitious at present and likely to lead  
to no action. Many countries are not yet prepared or willing
to act in close cooperation with others, and the sheer scale
of projected international cooperation may overburden       
existing capacities. What is required is a strategy for     
action which will provide (1) a definition of the essential 
goals for the long term, to provide a sense of direction for
the next decade or two; and (2) a set of guidelines for     
specific actions and decisions, taking account of current   
limitations and obstacles to cooperation.                   
   The essential goals for a global strategy (Chapter IV)   
include keeping the peace, managing the world economy,      
contributing to econmic development and the satisfaction of 
basic human needs, and promoting human rights. Within these 
broad goals, countries should work out modes for inter-     
national cooperation that are practicable and effective for 
each of the particular problems they face. There are several
important guidelines for making problems more manageable,   
for facilitating cooperation amidst diversity in the        
management of interdependence (Chapter V):                  
* Piecemeal Functionalism. In general, the prospects for    
achieving effective international cooperation can often be  
improved if the issues can be kept separate-what we call    
piecemeal functionalism. Progress on solutions is likely to 
be faster and the solutions are likely to be more durable.  
* Rule-Making with Decentralization. In devising inter-     
national cooperation arrangements to deal with a particular 
problem or manage some continuing aspect of interdependence,
the objective should beto minimize the extent and complexity
of cooperation required. In general, there should be a      
deliberate effort to design the international regime as a   
framework of rules, standards, and procedures and to        
decentralize decision-making and operational management.    
* Flexible Participation. Trust and goodwill are low at a   
global level; mutual suspicion and hostility are high. Hence
wide participation may impede action on important issues and
produce solutions too complex or too compromised to be      
effective. Greater progress can be made when smaller groups 
of countries collaborate together. Participation should be  
guided by the nature of the problem, the degree of interest 
in the solution, and the prospect of success in reaching    
agreement on a solution.                                    
* Evolutionary Change. It would not make sense in today's   
world to freeze any institutional arrangement into a        
particular pattern or membership. Collaboration among       
nations must allow for, and even encourage, changes in      
institutional relationships (including participation) as    
objective circumstances change, so that effective decision- 
making and management may continue.                         
   There will of course be exceptions to these principles,  
where seemingly diverse issues cannot be effectively        
uncoupled, where effective management requires international
management and not merely rule-making, and where effective  
solutions require universal participation. General adherence
to the principles will make more tolerable these occasional 
exceptions."                                                
                                                            
Darn! I knew this was going to take a third note!           
2042 hrs.est  10/31                                   Betty 



PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service         11/01/92        11:18 PM

         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    10/31  9:36 PM
 
TO:      NANCY HOPKINS   (HGNR50B)
FROM:    ANNA PAUL   (WDBS78A)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV-TC MEMBERS
 
Nancy,                                                      
   Third note pertaining to "Towards a Renovated            
International System."                                      
                                                            
"International management will be more readily accepted in a
few distinctive areas, for instance if it rests within a    
general approach which strongly supports and reinforces     
national autonomy within a framework of agreed rules.       
   In the current situation of complexity and uncertainty,  
there is a need for strong "poles of cooperation" which will
attract and draw in others. We believe the trilateral region
can serve as such a pole. Close trilateral cooperation,     
which must be responsive to the needs and problems of       
others, will improve the chances of a smooth and peaceful   
evolution of the global system.                             
   The Appendix to the report illustrates its general       
approach in four particular areas:                          
* International Monetary Arrangements. There is a wide scope
for different exchange rate arrangements by individual      
countries, within a broad international framework. The      
essential cooperation for maintaining that framework        
involves relatively few countries, although all countries   
have an interest in it. The failure of attempts to draw up a
detailed blueprint applicable to all participating countries
suggests the wisdom of a more pragmatic approach,           
concentrating on improvements on the arrangements we        
currently have.                                             
*Pollution of the Environment. Most of the world's pollution
is generated in the industrialized countries. Therefore,    
action by the trilateral countries can make a particularly  
important contribution to a global task by focusing on their
own region, while assisting developing countries in the     
field of environmental technology. Rule-making at the       
trilateral level should generally take the form of conscious
parallelism in national standards. Management and policing  
can, for the most part, can be left to the national level.  
At the global level, trilateral countries should support the
efforts of the United Nations Environment Programme.        
* National Social and Industrial Policies. Under the right  
conditions, a high degree of decentralization in national   
determination of such policies is both possible and         
desireable. With some areas of national action and          
international cooperation working well-notably the          
stabilization of total demand and management of flexible    
exchange rates-structural policies can be handled more      
easily because wide diversity can be made tolerable.        
* Peaceful Use of Nuclear Energy. A strategy based on a     
separation of issues appears difficult in this area, but it 
is useful in searching for cooperative approaches to        
distinguish between the supply of a) reactors, b) enrichment
technology and c) reprocessing technology. There is general 
agreement that every country should have access to reactor  
technology, provided it is willing to accept IAEA safeguards
and controls. It is the sensitive parts of the fuel cycle   
which are at the heart of international concern. The        
trilateral countries cannot manage this area alone. The     
cooperation of other suppliers and major recipients of      
nuclear technology is vital."                               
                                                            
   Only in America would it take a 4th note. If they weren't
using $10.95 words it would have fit! <G>.                  
2129 hrs.est  10/31                                   Betty 


PRODIGY(R) interactive personal service         11/01/92        11:21 PM

         ARTS CLUB
TOPIC:   BOOKS/NONFICTION
TIME:    11/01  9:08 AM
 
TO:      NANCY HOPKINS   (HGNR50B)
FROM:    ANNA PAUL   (WDBS78A)
SUBJECT: WORLD GOV-TC MEMBERS
 
Nancy,                                                      
   Fourth and final note pertaining to "Towards a Renovated 
International System."                                      
                                                            
"A concerted international effort involving both sides is   
necessary to develop further the instruments of non-        
proliferation while at the same time respecting the desire  
of many countries to expand nuclear generation. Meanwhile,  
steps should be avoided which make such a task more         
difficult at a later date." END.                            


   If you would like a copy of this or anything else I have 
please send me your name & address E-mail.                  
   It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what they're  
talking about in the pamphlet & is as close to a confession 
of what the purpose of the Trilateral Commission is as I've 
seen.                                                       
   It's important to remember that the TC was founded in    
1973 & this pamphlet was printed in 1977. Reading the       
information contained in the pamphlet & taking into account 
what's happened in the world in the 15 years since it was   
printed should give a pretty clear picture of what the      
strategy is.                                                
   It should also be taken into consideration that any info 
that is for general publication & distribution to the public
will, of course, be in a most positive light. The purpose is
to convince the people that because there are so many       
problems in the world that only by cooperating & having a   
world government will the problems be solvable. Of course,  
they don't tell you that they created the problems to begin 
with. Example: factory pollution. How many times, as a token
gesture to placate the American people, have companies been 
fined huge sums only to have the fines later reduced to a   
fraction of the original amount. The original amount is     
headlines when it happens but later there are other         
headlines so the reduced sum is buried in the news & is     
hardly noticed, if reported at all. Love Canal is a case in 
point.                                                      
   In addition, in 1954 the Congress appointed a            
Congressional Committee, called the Reece Commission, to    
investigate the influence of the Ford & Rockefeller         
Foundations & the Carnegie Endowment into the US education  
system. The Chief Director of that commission, Norman Dodd, 
proved that the education system had been taken over years  
earlier. Also, members of the CFR &/or the TC, including    
David Rockefeller, own or have controlling interest in the  
firms that publish the textbooks for schools, universities &
colleges. How many parents have asked, "Why do we keep      
paying more & more school taxes but there is more illiteracy
as time passes?" How many times have we seen on the news    
that companies have a hard time hiring people because too   
many can't even read the application?                       
   Welfare is a good example of keeping people down. Make   
their monthly payments just enough that they can survive but
too much to make it worthwhile to get an education to better
oneself. After all, if the person gets a job & they have    
children they will have to pay some toward their care while 
they're working & of course there's transportation needed.  
And above all use the media to foment the animosity between 
the taxpayers & those on welfare.                           
  The primary tactic is create &/or encourage differences & 
hatred so that the people don't unite. DIVIDE & CONQUER!!!!!
2209 hrs.est  10/31                      All the best, Betty

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-Steve
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