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From: irvr@tara.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Irv Robinson)
Subject: Re: DMV: Use fee
Reply-To: irvr@tara.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Irv Robinson)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Rancho Bernardo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:47:19 GMT

In article <gf_=wE600iUxI1lIV8@andrew.cmu.edu> Steven Ritter <sr0o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>irvr@tara.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Irv Robinson) writes:
>
>>As you might know,
>>states are not allowed to tax interstate trade, so the powers that be HAD
>>to come up with a means to keep people from avoiding sales tax by 
>>purchasing products in another state.  I suppose you could say California
>>closed a loophole with a loophole.  There's even a line on the CA income
>>tax form for Use Tax not paid at purchase time.
>
>This is nonsense. Sales tax is typically owed to your home state, not
>the state of purchase. If I'm from Pennsylvania and I buy a car in Ohio,
>I pay sales tax to Pennsylvania, not Ohio. With large purchases (like
>cars or expensive jewelry) the IRS will catch you.
>
This is not nonsense.  You have misunderstood the discussion.  To use your
example, Pennsylvania cannot legally charge sales tax on purchases made in
Ohio.  Period.  California has a "use tax" so that a fee becomes due by
a California resident making a purchase, regardless of where the purchase
is made.  Don't believe me, call the California Franchise Tax Board yourself
and ask them.  Their number is 800-852-5711.

You might also do some reading the subject of interstate trade.  And by the
way, the IRS has nothing to do with sales tax.
From: bobski@pasadena-dc.bofa.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 4x4 Newsgroup
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:15:08 PDT
Organization: Bank America Systems Engineering, Pasadena, CA

In article <Bz867I.91t@NeoSoft.com>, paul@NeoSoft.com (Paul Hutmacher) writes:
> In article <11DEC92.13420848@wizard.colorado.edu> murray_t@wizard.colorado.edu writes:
>>Can you explain what this off-road mailing list is all about?  I might
>>be interested.
> 
> 
> Uh, it's about offroad vehicles, four wheel drive trucks and such, and the
> care and feeding of them.
> -- 
> Paul Hutmacher                Houston, Texas               paul@NeoSoft.Com
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From: morton@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Brent Morton)
Subject: Re: Passat - to buy or not to buy
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:24:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.134817.1779@bmerh85.bnr.ca> seymour@bnr.ca (Jeffrey Seymour) writes:
>I am looking at a 91 passat GL.  Are there any horror stories out there.  Anyone know of particular problems to look for?
>

I have a '91 Passat GL, and I couldn't recommend the car more. The largest of
the problems I've experienced in 39 000 km of driving has been a rattling
third brake light, fixed under warranty. 

I usually average over 30 mpg (US) on highway trips and find the car an 
excellent handler. You may want to see if the standard 50-series tires are
acceptable for you -- some may find them a bit harsh. As well, I recommend a
five-speed; I understand the automatic is not well-suited to the car.

-- Brent
morton@artifis.gaul.csd.uwo.ca

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From: goudreau@batman.rtp.dg.com (Bob Goudreau)
Subject: Re: OLDsmobile name change
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:51:02 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC

In article <14030@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>
>>>Did GM just pay off Beretta Arms Company? I never heard anything about
>>>Colt Arms Company or Colt Malt Liquor suing Chrysler for the DODGE COLT.
>
>>They would have no basis for doing so.  Trademark law makes a
>>distinction between unique words like "Beretta" and common words like
>>"Colt."  The latter can be used as a mark on multiple products that
>>cannot be confused by the common consumer.  (You would be unlikely to
>>confuse a car and a gun.)
>
>On the other hand, suppose Beretta would like to reserve the right to enter
>the car business someday, and would like to therefore protect its name in
>the unlikely eventuality.  Beretta would then be justified in fighting hard
>to protect its name and goodwill, and would be justified in seeking to restrict
>its name....

Er, you completely missed his point.  As he mentioned, "Beretta" is
precisely *not* a common word like "Colt", and is thus not open to 
free use across different types of products like "Colt" is.

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From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: 89 quad4 recall
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:17:10 GMT

just got notified about a recall on 1989 quad4s to replace a fuel line hose/
clamp that might leak and possibly cause a fire.  recall number is 89c08.
dealer said it will take 30-40 minutes to replace.
just an fyi.
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: News of '94 Accords?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:56:49 GMT

	There is a new Accord in '94 and Minivan based on the platform in
'95.


-- 
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  "Public speaking is very easy!" <-- Quayle 10/88  ;-)
  "Unfortunately, the people of Louisiana are not racists" <-- Quayle, 10/12/90
NeXTMail Accepted  Go Illini *Holiday Bowl* Go Capitals Go Tarheels Go Cowboys 
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From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: Re: Ford 4-cylinders (Ranger)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:06:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.192411.10410@donner.SanDiego.NCR.COM> brianw@.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Brian Williams) writes:
>
>
>I'm considering buying a new 1993 small pickup truck. I'm looking at
>4-cylinders- Fords, Nissans, Toyotas ...
>
>I've heard some people say that Ford doesn't make good 4-cylinder
>engines and I'd be better off paying a little more for a Japanese
>made 4-cylinder. Anyone out there had any real bad problems with
>Ford 4-cylinders namely the Ranger ?
>Also, anyone with a Ranger how does it ride and are you happy with it ?
>
>Thanks,
>Brian W.
>
buy a ranger xlt(all the goodies) with a v-6.  you can get one loaded for 
about 800 less than a nissan v6 stripped.



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From: paul@nuchat.sccsi.com (Paul Hutmacher)
Subject: Re: Not ALL YJs suck.........!!!!!
Organization: South Coast Computing Services, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:22:02 GMT

Sorry, I couldn't pass this up :)

In article <1992Dec16.101041.1@bronco.fnal.gov> colombo@bronco.fnal.gov writes:
>Well I have a CJ-7, it was made by AMC.  I got it stuck in deep water the
>first weekend I had it, rolled it within a year.  I understand the
>statements regarding fit and finish, but what's a *dash* and *carpets*?

Well I've got a YJ and it too was made by AMC.  I know better than to get it
in too deep of water and I've managed to not roll it even though I've added
a 3" suspension lift, 31x10.50's, and some RS5000's all the way around.

It has a dash, a very small one.  That's what you velcro your sun glasses to
when it gets dark.  Carpet is the fuzzy stuff between your feet and the metal
floorboards that protects the metal finish and preserves it from rust and scuf-
fing.

I know you guys with the round headlights think y'all have the lock on the
one true Jeep experience but guess what?  You don't.  A YJ is nothing more
than the compilation of the CJ's, MB's, and whatever else came before
Wranglers.

If you'd drive one of the new 4.0 liter fuel injected YJ's you'd hock your
house to make the down payment.  Really.



-- 
"In the end, We will conserve only what we love;  |  Thomas Paul Hutmacher
We will love only what we understand; And we will |  Houston, Texas USA
understand only what we are taught." Baba Dioum   |  paul@nuchat.sccsi.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From:  (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu)
Subject: Re: "Most Tastelss Car Accessory Listing"
Organization: master/peon
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 22:20:57 GMT

In article <11DEC199212585862@csa3.lbl.gov>, jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:
> 

> Free pass into the Counter-Bad-Taste Hall of Fame for anyone who puts
> "My Other Car Is a VW" on a Porsche.
> 
How about "My Other Car Is Also a Porsche" on a Porsche??

I'm torn between that or "Don't Laugh, It's Paid For" on my 944. :-)


Jon jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-==-=-=-=-=-
Q: What's the difference between a Porsche and a Porcupine?
A: On the porcupine, the pricks are on the outside...



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From: qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 1990 Audi 100 SUCKS !!!!!!!!!!!!e+10
Date: 17 Dec 1992 00:06:17 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <livbpdINN7r5@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> tut@cairo.Eng.Sun.COM (Bill "Bill" Tuthill) writes:
>qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi) writes:
>> 
>> --It's silly of you not to buy an Audi nowadays because of your experience
>>   with your 1970 100LS.  A company can change itself in 22 years you know!!
>>   Japanese cars were not the paragons of reliability that they are know.

>You must be young, or have a poor memory.  Japanese cars from the 1970s had
>excellent reliability, which is why consumers stayed with them.

--No, I don't have a poor memory.  I am 22 though, so I'm guilty.

--Aamir Qazi

-- 

Aamir Qazi
qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
--Why should I care?  I'd rather watch drying paint.
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From: mark@wdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: emissions
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:32:49 GMT

In article <djanzen.724393594@sfu.ca>, djanzen@fraser.sfu.ca (Derek Montgomery Janzen) writes:
|> I took my 1985 Toyota Corolla in for emissions testing today. Here are my results. 
|> 
|> 	Engine		max	reading		units
|> HC	idle		500.00	116.00		ppm
|> 	loaded		500.00	44.00		ppm
|> CO	idle		5.00	0.00		%
|> 	loaded		3.00	0.00		%
|> NOx	loaded		2540.00	2777.00		ppm
|> 	idle		?	?
|> 
|> I passed on the first two tests, but I failed the NOx test.  I have been told that
|> this could be a result of a faulty EGR valve, or a failed catalytic converter.  
|> Could there be any other possibilities?  How can I test my EGR valve?  I am a poor
|> student and i'd like to spend as little money as possible.  I have some knowlege
|> of engines, but mostly on older domestics (late 60's).  Any help would be appreciated.

Interesting data.  Where are you located?  The limits are relatively high compared
with AZ (220 ppm HC, 1.2% CO, NOx no limit). 

If your engine had no emissions controls your readings would indicate a slightly
lean combustion (80 ppm HC, 0.25% CO, 2500 ppm NOx according to the Bosch Handbook). 
It is almost as if your catalytic converter is not there.  

How many retests do you get for free?  Maybe one of the Toyota experts on the net
could tell you an easy way to enrich your mixture in the loaded condition. This
should bring your NOx down without appreciably affecting the CO or HC.  For example
an uncontrolled engine at 0.95 lambda (14:1 air-fuel ratio instead of your 16:1)
would typically yield 100 ppm HC, 2.5% CO, and 2000 ppm NOx.  The only problem with
this approach is that it is a real crap shoot whether the car will be on-target for
the test.

I would look into a new catalytic converter, espceially if the car has over 70-80K
miles on it.  I got a reasonably priced one at Meineke Muffler for about $185 for
my '84 GTi.  Sailed through the test with near zero HC and CO.  AZ does not check
NOx (yet?).

Mark
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: *** Acura Integra LS 88 ***
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:36:41
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: mlleung@neumann.uwaterloo.ca's message of Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:27:50 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:27:50 GMT, mlleung@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Johnson Leung Man Leung) said:

mlleung> I have just seen an 88 Acura Integra LS (automatic) with
mlleung> 121,000 km, and fully loaded with A/C, pw, pdl. It asks for
mlleung> Can$6300. Can anybody comment on this? Thanks.

Comment? Ya. Don't buy it. Too many miles on it for that price...

--
 Scott Streeter                             Visit the Star Wars Archive at
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu       130.215.24.1
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From: eric0139@student.tc.umn.edu (Grant Erickson)
Subject: Fiero's (Was Re: "Most Tastelss Car Accessory Listing")
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:05:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.092708.3679@scott.skidmore.edu>,
jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (JTD is lost) wrote:
> 
> Lest we forget the fools with the Fiero locally?  Not just any Fiero,
> however (a Fiero wouldn't get you in this list but...read on:)
> 
(Stuff Deleted)
> 
> 	Jonathan
> 
> jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu
> 4A-GE w107660+mi @7krpm = Smile <:
> <insert brain here>

The absolute best thing I saw the other day, was on I-35W south near the
I-94 interchange by downtown and lo and behold a Fiero (an SE, not the
later Formula's) blasts by me. Let me list the transgressions:

1) Terrible repaint job. A terrible teal green color (ack!). Some teal's
are tolerable, but this was just a bit too green and there was no shine to
it at all.

2) Gold dual edged wiper blades WITH the accompanying gold wind deflectors

3) Solid black tinted windows all around

4) Fiero sun shade on the top of the windshield

5) Chrome tailpipe extensions that were WAY too long (stuck out about 3-4"
from the rear plane of the back bumper. Might do some MAJOR shin damage in
a parking lot!

6) HUGE tires on even BIGGER rims so that the tire sidewalls were stretched
out WAY too far.

7) The largest, gaudiest wing in the world. A good 1.5' above the trunk
lid. And at least 1' wide.

And here is the best of all...drum roll here...

8) On the rear trunk lid he had done a little bit of embellishing. He had
knocked of the markings from several cars: A chrome V6 logo from an older
Camry V6, a chrome Turbo EFI logo from a 1985-1989 LeBaron GTS Turbo, A
chrome DOHC logo from somewhere, and the chrome cursive Intercooled logo
from a Turbo Intercooled Volvo. All assembled, it looked like one of those
cut and paste kidnap letters and read Turbo Intercooled Electronic Fuel
Injected DOHC V6.

What a laugh!
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| Grant Erickson                                                           
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 15:13:34 EST
From: <CJOHNSON@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject:    Four wheel drive Autos

We are thinking of selling our 4 x 4 truck, and Prelude Honda auto. And buying
a full time Four wheel Drive auto,some thing that is sporty and rides nice
but has four wheel drive. What we want to know is who makes such a car. I think
Audi does who else.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: Re: Eletcric rustproofing ?
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:30:59 GMT

In article <53060110@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com> leonglaw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Lawrence LEONG) writes:
>
>Tell him to leave the car in brine, and hey, in 10 years time (assuming he
>remembers to change the battery), bodywork still good as new :-).  No
>warranties on the upholstery tho :-) :-) :-)
>
>Seriously, it won't work on the car.  Oil rigs, yes, for above reasons.  Car,
>no.
>
>lawrence
>

Yup ! Lawrence is right on the money - basic electrochemistry.

-- 
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3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: Chuck@clemson.edu (Chuck Heck)
Subject: Tires - SHO - Riken
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:50:32 GMT

It's getting to be time for me to replace the Goodyear Eagle GT+4s that came
on my '91 SHO.  Stock size is 215/60R16 94V.  I saw a '91 in a parking lot the 
other day that had Riken VTX 215/60R16 94V tires on it.  The ratings on the
sideall were 200/A/A.

Anyone have any experience with Riken?  What have other SHO owners replaced 
their OEM tires with?  Anyone change tire sizes and not change the stock 
wheels (16x6)?  

Chuck
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: hhelanto@vipunen.hut.fi (Henri R Helanto)
Subject: Re: Four wheel drive Autos
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 19 Dec 92 04:18:36 GMT

In <1992Dec16.223054.29459@icd.teradyne.com> rvn@icd.teradyne.com (Rafael Vidaillet) writes:

<snip>
>Honda Prelude), and I kind of like the laid-back seating position.  

	Wait a minute... you say you like to drive seated laid-back?
	And you drive autocross?  Hmm, if you're doing fine now I
	can't imagine how much better you would do if you tilted 
	your seat back up and got familiar with the suggested-by-
	racers -position (90 degree angle in the seat, maximum 
	distance of 1 foot between your chest and the steering wheel).
	   I've raced autocross for three years now and seen almost
	any kind of seating positions but the 'correct' position seems
	to be the one winners use. I changed from the laid-back to
	the one I mentioned and to my surprise I found I wasn't
	always the last anymore. With a proper position you get a lot
	more feel to everything that is happening and you can predict
	the behaviour of your car because you actually feel the 
	smallest changes in traction, acceleration and braking.

	...You may not like the position at first but you'll get
	used to it. (Try practising a couple of hours with it and
	then change back to the laid-back position - then you know
	which one you really _want_ to use :-)

>a BLAST in the snow.  This thing is AMAZING!  And to think it is also 
>a sports car (I auto-cross and Time-trial during the summer... Hopefully
>I will do some ice-races too..) We'll see if any other 4wd car can
>keep up with this little beast..( Unless you spend more than 2x the $$$ 
>for a 3000GT VR4...)

	Mitsu can't. It's way too heavy. But after all, the _real_
	difference is always between the seat and the wheel - an
	average driver with a lousy car can beat a lousy driver
	with a good car. 

-Henri
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From: jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM (John Fox - SunExpress IR)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: SHO grills
Date: 18 Dec 1992 13:57:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: hooksett.east.sun.com

In article uupcb@cutting.hou.tx.us, david.bonds@cutting.hou.tx.us (David Bonds) writes:
>
>  >>  >>After 2nd Motorcraft battery died on me last August, I had put an 1000CCA
>  >>  >>after market battery in it.  But I suspect for some obscure reason, after
>  >>  >>12-15 months of service, batteries in SHO just quit.
>  >>of run it fine since then.  I had my mechanic check out the electrical and
>  >>charging system since then, and it was fine.  I suspect the problem lies more
>  >>with the Motorcraft battery then the SHO charging system.
>  >
>  >I don't know if it's already been mentioned here, but I thought Ford had
>  >acknowledged this problem, and was replacing the front "grill" with a
>  >narrower one?
>  >I was in an accident back in June with my SHO, and the grill they used
>  >definately is about 1.5 inches shorter than the original - and what I
>  >see on regular Tauri.
>
>Maybe I'm missing something, but what would the front grill have to do with
>the battery charging system?!?  
>
(text deleted)...

Sorry - the understanding I had was that the electrical problem was caused,
or at least aided, by a lack of air flow. The shorter grill attempts to
resolve that.
Regardless, there had to be a motivating factor behind Ford to change it.


John
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Implosion Engines... feasible?
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:48:12 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <Bz0nvp.KrD@cmptrc.lonestar.org> neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>
>... and the later steam engines (railroad locomotives, etc.) pushed the pistons
>with steam on both strokes of travel, the connecting rod passed through a seal
>at the end of the cylinder and steam pushed against the "bottom" of the piston
>on the return stroke as well as pushing down on the head of the piston on the
>"down/power (???)" stroke. Now there was some major league torque produced by
>that kind of engine.
>
    Not to mention automobiles.  The wimpy little gasoline engines
    of the day couldn't compare with the power of the steamers.  Too
    bad they weighed so damned much,.
Xref: sparky rec.autos:30134 rec.autos.tech:16891
From: darcy+@cs.cmu.edu (Darcy Bullock)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Car Insurance
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:20:26 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon



I am not sure if this is the correct group to post to or not, but here goes.

Our current Car insurance carrier is Nationwide.  At the end of the month we
are moving from Pennsylvania to Louisiana.  Louisiana happens to be one of
three states that Nationwide does not write policies in so we must find
another carrier.

However, my wife had an "at fault" collision in August of 91 and our carrier
paid $450.00 to fix the other guys bumper.  Nationwide did not raise our
premiums, but now that we are shopping for a new carrier our premiums will
more then double.  Does anybody have a suggestion on how to get car
insurance at a "reasonable" price?


Thanks,

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From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Is Japan being fair ? (1/2)
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:28:47 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <issa.723901377@cwis> issa@cwis.unomaha.edu (Issa El-Hazin) writes:
>
>A little correction on my previous post. Canada and England are buying the
>US more than Japan and not Canada and Germany. As I've said above, it's been 
>a couple of years since I've seen these numbers. Anybody know what they are
>now by any chance?
>
    I dunno about that.  After all this board is rec.autos.
    And talking about autos, I'm sure it is a shock to our 
    British friends to find out that it is merely a rumor that
    GM owns Lotus and Ford owns Jaguar.
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