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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:02:00 CST
From:         HARTWD@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
Subject:      Gauss
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I vaguely remember something on this qfrom last year but I have
mis-laid the file on it.  Is there a list/user's group for users of the
matrix program Gauss?  If anyone has an address for them I would
deeply appreciate receiving it>


Thanks,


William D. Hart,  Saint Louis University
(314) 577-8523
From: JANDERSO@UNMCVM.BITNET (Jim Anderson --UNMCVM(JANDERSO))
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Subject: kriging software
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:02:21 GMT
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 For a research project involving prediction of regional rates of
 a particular medical problem, I have county-specific rates.  How-
 ever, many counties are "sparse", making observed rates (relative
 to the state-wide rate) in some of these counties either small (read 0) or
 large (as a result of a small denominator).

 A colleague has suggested that I consider kriging the rates ...
 I (think) I understand the method ... nice introduction by Cressie
 in Am Stat'n Nov 1989.

 Can anyone point me to software that will do this?   I have IBM
 mainframe, PC and RS6000 UNIX workstation available.  SAS macro
 would be my first choice.

 Thanks in advance to anyone that can point me in the right direction.

 Jim Anderson, Univ Nebr Med Ctr

:::: :Kriging software
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 09:34:00 EDT
From:         "Robert M. Hamer 908-932-2696" <HAMER@ZODIAC.BITNET>
Subject:      stats books

Meredith_Warshaw@FRANKSTON.COM writes:

>a surgeon (actually, my step-brother) has requested that I recommend an easy,
>preferably short, intro to medical stats.  Basically, he wants to understands
>t-tests, chi-squares, and lifetables so he can read research literature.
>Does anyone out there have any recommendations?  I'll summarize for the list.

While you're at it, would you ask your step-brother for an easy, short,
book I can read on surgery, so I can understand that literature.
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From:         DIETRICH@CTRVAX.VANDERBILT.EDU
Subject:      SuperANOVA Vendor Info...
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Hello again,

This time I'm wondering if anyone has vendor contact information for the
product, SuperANOVA.  I believe it used to be a part of StatView but is
now marketed by another company.

Thanks,

Mary Dietrich
Statistical Software Consultant
Vanderbilt University Computer Center
Internet: dietrich@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
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Date: 19 Aug 92 18:57:23 GMT
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  dear statisticians,

 i send question about regression analysis ..,what  is erase ? ..wait any
 answer..


 waldo h. otto
 university of santiago of chile
 faculty school of tecnology
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From:         "r. j. harvey" <HARVEYRJ@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      standard errors of B

dear list:
  I would like to find a computational formula for computing the standard
error of multiple regression weights WITHOUT having access to the inverse
of the correlation matrix, AND without having to solve for the R-square
computed without the given predictor.  it seems like in the "old days" there
must have been a way to do this; all current texts I can find make reference
only to methods based on the inverse of R and/or on knowing the semipartial
correlation (or other statistic based on the R-square with and without that
predictor in the model).
  anyone have any ideas?

r. j. harvey
psychology
virginia tech   internet: harveyrj @ vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
From: ph@physiology.oxford.ac.uk (Patrick Haggard)
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Subject: Bivariate frequency counts
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:38:34 GMT
Organization: Physiology Department, Oxford University, Oxford, UK.
Originator: ph@galen.physiol


Can anyone point me some software which will take a file of x,y
values, and perform binning on both x and y values to give a
frequency count for each x,y bin?
Many thanks
Patrick
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From:         LBA002@PRIME-A.TEESSIDE.AC.UK
Subject:      CD-ROM Workbook

For some time we have been producing local documentation for our CD-ROM
workstations. Trouble-shooting sheets, prompt cards and "cut-down"
versions of the user manuals.

What we would like to do now, is to produce a "workbook" which would
give the users a much more structured approach to using CD-ROMs. We
have in mind a number of sections. Each would have objectives for the
user - being able to load a CD successfully, being able to devise a
search strategy etc. Each section would probably consist of a chunk of
information, then some exercises to test the user's comprehension and
to allow them to practice.

Has anyone else produced this type of workbook? If so would you be
willing to share the experience/reuslts with me?

Rgds,

Iain Noble
University of Teesside Library
Middlesbrough
Cleveland
UK
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From:         e.j.craft@ASTON.AC.UK
Subject:      Menus vs Windows
X-To:         cdromlan@idbsu.idbsu.edu

        Just to poke my oar in on this matter :-)...

        One of the good things about access to CDs on a Lan is that ( in
most cases ) the specification of the machine being used as a workstation
is largely irrelevent. Granted, CDs that store complex searches onto disks
aren't as fast and any graphics capabilities are lost. But on the whole,
most of the services we have available are text-based and a user wih
patience could use an old CGA XT to get access if they had to. This would
be useful if a department were short on high-spec machines but wanted a PC
dedicated for CD access.

        Using a menu system ( Aston LIS has a BBS-style system of ansi and
ascii pages that overlay ) scores over Windows in this respect. If we used
windows as the interface it would stop the system being text-only ( which
gives a possible upgrade path to a cross-platform BBS system ) .

        Also : I posted a request for information from anyone who was using
a BBS to give cross-platform access to CD systems. 99% of people who
replied said they were thinking of the same thing and could I pass on any
info. I'm talking to some Sysops here in England at the moment and I'll
post something once I get it. This has taken a back-seat at the moment as
were upgrading the CD system and installing Adonis before term starts.

        Anyone with Adonis experience please let me know what to watch out
for !



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From:         Jim Loya <0004602295@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Toshiba on CIS
X-To:         "Rainer Stumpe, et al" <cdromlan%idbsu.bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu>

It is usually pointless to talk to sysops of forums on Compuserve, since
most of the time they are merely CIS subcribers that have been given the
job of moderating the forum and have no technical connections to the forum's
owner -- I know many of the Netwire sysops are that way... (nothing personal,
guys).
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From:         Carol Simpson <csimpson@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bridging Novell LAN to IBM mainframe

Our Novell 3.11 LAN (including MAC and PC workstations) bridges to our
mainframe.  I'm not responsible for the link, but I can put you in touch
with those who are.

Carol Mann Simpson
Facilitator - Library Technology
Mesquite (TX) Independent School District
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Subject:      Re: single user vs. standalone
X-To:         CDROMLAN%IDBSU.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU

Dan,

Here in Australia, where all Universities (with one or two exceptions) are
State-funded and hence subject to some Government influence, we have
recently gone through a series of voluntary amalgamations of smaller
colleges with each other or with larger colleges and universities. As
a result we now have many "mult-campus" institutions. It is very
frustrating that with few exceptions, it does not appear possible to
acquire licenses for cross-campus (or multi-campus) networking of CD's.
From my perspective (as someone establishing a CD-ROM network which is
accessible from all four Monash University campuses and from associated
teaching hospitals and other "satellite" locations) this is the single
most annoying aspect of the current CD-ROM network licensing situation.

Australian University librarians are trying to join forces in lobbying
CD-ROM vendors and try to get them to agree to make available cross-
campus licenses, preferably at a reasonable fee. But probably we need
the help from our North American and European colleagues if we are to\
succeed.

I would be interested in your views on this - and perhaps you could
raise the issue in your paper, if you had not  already planned to do so.

Hans Groenewegen,
Deputy University Librarian,
Monash University.  Melbourne.  Australia.
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From:         Steven Kriby <kirby@ATHENA.CS.UGA.EDU>
Subject:      Bridging Novell LAN to IBM mainframe
X-To:         cdromlan%idbsu.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu

OK, the verdict is in.  Our LAN is great, etc. etc.  But the first question
out of everyone's mouth (except those of us who brought the LAN up) has been
"When will we be able to get to this from the online catalog?".  Our OPAC was
developed in-house.  It is CICS based and runs on an IBM 3090.  Naturally,
all devices connected to it are 327x devices.  Now, here's the question.
Hypothetically, could we bridge a connection between our Novell NetWare 3.11
LAN and the mainframe?  Has anybody actually done that?  And lived to tell
the tale?


--Steve


Steven Kirby
Main Library
University of Georgia
kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu

Novell 3.11/SCSI Express 1.09
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From:         Jim Loya <0004602295@MCIMAIL.COM>
X-To:         Clyde Grotophorst <cdromlan%idbsu.bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu>

If I am not mistaken, Computer Select has the same form of license verification
as Harvard Graphics in the regards that a network device appears to certain
applications (especially under MS-DOS) as a substituted drive and not a directly
accessable drive, so the software believes it is running in more places than one
even though it isn't.

-Jim Loya, General Manager, Systems Integration Division
-Image Services, Inc., Keene, New Hampshire
-800/827-5478  603/352-7371  603/357-8935 Fax
-4602295@mcimail.com
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From:         Howard Spivak <HOSBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Bridging Novell LAN to IBM mainframe
              20 Aug 1992 13:25:13 EDT from <kirby@ATHENA.CS.UGA.EDU>

Steve,
We have just recently bridged our Novell Lan to the mainframe (CICS-3090)
using a hardware/software combination put out by Rabbit Software Corp.

For a number of reasons we rejected another possible "pure IBM"
solution centered around the  IBM 3174.

At this point, Workstations have the option of using the CD-Roms or
attaching to the mainframe OPAC Library catalog.  Simultaneous concurrent
sessions are possible but not encouraged.  We use Direct Access as the
menu manager and Optinet as the CD-ROM rerouter on a 16 workstation
Lan.

It is still too early for us to think about accessing the Lan from the
60 or so dumb terminals that form the basis of our OPAC catalog.  I am
sure that the more popular CD-products could not take the increased load
and still have an acceptable response time.

So far we have lived to tell the tale, but then again, the Fall term
hasn't started yet.   / Howard


Howard Spivak
Director for Systems
Brooklyn College Library

Voice: 718-951-5342
Email: HOSBC@CUNYVM.BITNET
       HOSBC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
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From:         "katie wilson" <kwilson@MARS.MQCC.MQ.OZ.AU>
Subject:      Re: Use of Full Electronic Texts in Libraries
X-To:         CDROMLAN%IDBSU.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU
              Jul 25, 92 7:10 am

To Wendy Plotkin,
Dept of History
University of Illinois

Macquarie University, School of History, Ancient History has the full text
Thesaurus Linguae Grecae on CDROM, the Hewlett Packard version.
It is not in the library, but used by researchers at the university and
in Sydney.

Katie wilson
Macquarie University Library
kwilson@mars.ocs.mq.edu.au
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From:         "D.E. 'Dave' Bloomberg" <BLOOMBER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Intel LANSHELL menu program......

Hi Netters,

Question of the Day:

        Anybody out there using Intel's LANSHELL menu program??

        Our CDROM Network arrived yesterday (at least enough to work
        with) and our vendor chose LANSHELL.  As I write this I can't
        say that I am very pleased with their choice (although cost
        seemed to be a MAJOR factor).

        If anybody out there can provide hints, etc....It would make
        life a LOT easier.

Q#2:    When working with menus, has experience shown it better to
        work from long command sequesnces within the menu program, OR
        Is it better to set up batch files and then have the menu
        item call the respective batch files ?????


THANKS!!!

        Dave Bloomberg   FAU -- Libraries
        BLOOMBER@FAUVAX
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From:         Barb Deschapelles <DESCHAPE@DAYTON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: cabling

>Thanks for replying.  You taking about SCSI Express software but we planning
>to use Optinet software for the optical server, so I also want have SCSI
>adapter and I'm still confused.
>Krystyna
>Rider College

Optinet can run either as a process on a netware server (VAP or NLM), or
on a spearate computer dedicated to the cd-rom server function.  We run
the later way -- the cd-rom server is just another computer on the
network.  If you run optinet as a vap/nlm  the  scsi adapter  will go in
the file server, if you run a dedicated cd-rom server, it goes into that
machine.


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From:         BRITTON_CONNIE/OMGATE_OA@GATE.US.OHIO-STATE.EDU
Subject:      Stuck CD-ROM

Help!  I decided it was time to clean the lens on our
Sony CDU-100B player.  I used one of the audio laser
lens cleaners (which works fine in our Hitachi) which
looks like a disc, put it in the drive, the busy light
came on, but it never stopped as it's supposed to.  The
eject button does not respond while the drive is operating.
So, the cleaner disc is stuck in the drive.  I've removed
the case, but don't see any easy way to free the disc.
Before I break something, does anyone have any secrets
about how to get the disc out?

Connie Britton
Ohio Agricultural Research and Development Center
britton.4@osu.edu
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      single user vs. standalone
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On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:14:14 EDT Clyde W. Grotophorst said:
>While on the subject of DR DOS....not long ago I wanted to put
>Comptuer Select up on our Optinet LAN...but limit it to one
>simultaneous user (since we don't have a net license for the thing).

   Note:  1) I am not a lawyer
          2) I have not read your license for this product
          3) My opinion is worth as much as you are paying for it

   But:   If the license says that the product is to be used on a standalone
workstation and may NOT be networked, you HAVE violated the license.  Single
user limitation on a network is NOT the same as not networking it.  I would
assume that my reading of the situation is what the intent, and presumably
the wording, of the contract is, or else they would not have put the trap
in the software to prevent you from networking it.

   The basic options in a CDROM contract are either a limitation to
a single, standalone workstation, or a license for N users.  N in some cases
is 1 (one), which would seem to be an option for this product.  Do _I_ happen
to think this is stupid?  Probably not.  For a little used product, networking
the product, even with a limitation to one simultaneous user, is possibly
preventing a sale.  In this library, Math/Sci is such an example.  The
mathematicians would like to have it available in their offices, but don't
have the funds to buy it.  The library has it.  If we networked it, the
mathematicians would have NO interest in purchasing their own copy.  We do
not network it because the surcharge for doing so is outrageous, in our
opinion.  So, since they aren't rich enough, the mathematicians have to
walk a couple hundred yards to the library.  Since it rarely rains or snows
in Idaho, it isn't TOO much of a hardship for them to get a bit of exercise.

dan

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* Boise State University                                                    *
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From:         OWEN BERNIECE <BMO@PCCCP6.BITNET>
Subject:      EBSCO CD-ROMs

Is anyone out there using EBSCO CD-ROM products (e.g. Academic
Abstracts, Core MedLine) on a Meridian CD-ROM LAN?  If so, we need
some advice.  Please let us know who you are, and we will get back
to you.

I'm forwarding this call for help from our LRC director, so I don't
know precisely what the questions are!    Thank you!

Portland Community College LRC, Portland, Oregon  97280-0990
Voice: (503) 244-6111, ext. 4497   (Barbara Swanson)
FAX:   (503) 452-4977

Berniece Owen <BMO@PCCCP6.BITNET>
From: lib4@rosie.uh.edu (Thomas C. Wilson)
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Subject: CD-ROM access over TCP/IP nets
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:13:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am interested in hearing from sites that provide access to CD-ROM databases
over TCP/IP networks.  Specifically, I would like to know what your technical
configuration is for CD-ROM access, DOS processing, segmenting configuration,
bridging/routing, etc.  And any other info you would care to share about your
situation, including happy and horror stories.  Post to the net or to me
directly, whichever you prefer.  Thanks in advance!

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