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From: pgibb@cs.strath.ac.uk (Paul Gibb TBS92)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden first album - "Phantom Of The Opera"
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:02:57 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

In article <1993Jan25.162139.11234@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>I've got a Japan print of the first Iron Maiden album (which means I don't
>have "Sanctuary" on it and had to get the "Sanctuary" EP separately), and
>anyway, did any of you notice that about ten seconds or so after "Phantom Of
>The Opera" ends ("You haunt me you taunt me you torture me back at your lair")
>Di'anno screams out "Torture me back at your lair!!" ? Is this also on the 
>cassette version, or did you all just fast forward it after the sung quoted
>part above all these years? Mine version is on disc, so I wonder if that 
>happened on the original vinyl as well.
>

It happens on the original UK vinyl as well.  

PS As you probably know, this doesn't have Sanctuary on it either.

Paul

"You don't get a say, the majority gets its way
 You're outnumbered by the b**tards till the day you die"

Fear is the Key
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: fjames@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Frances James)
Subject: Re: Here's one for Suaron
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:18:20 GMT

In article <C1F52L.1LL@cck.coventry.ac.uk> nmorgan@cch.coventry.ac.uk (SLIVER) writes:
>
>Metallica are fucking brilliant so piss off!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>why do so many people see there new album as shit......change is good for all
>bands or else they end up shit like Manowar or Judas fucking Priest.Metallica
>are soooooooooo good.Ok Metallica isn't as good as Master or Lightning but
>its still a quality album and I'm certainly not going to stop listening to it.
>anyway,Metallica can do without wanker fans like you!!!!!!!!

I have to agree with this.  I admit that I wasn't even much into Metallica
before their new album, but I think it's awesome and, regarding somebody's
earlier comment about "why did they release Nothing Else Matters and not
Through the Never"....it's because Nothing Else Matters is a great song.
Metallica are totally cool.  'Nuf said.

BTW, if any Metallica fans feel that they can sit through the other crap
     without becoming violently ill, Metallica are playing tonight on
     ABC at 8:00...I believe it's the "American Music Awards".  I intend
     to have it on MUTE until they come on.

                                ----Psycho
From: TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: When Death Had No Name (lyrics)
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:52:59 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Here's my transciption of the lyrics to When Death Had No Name...this
is for the studio version on the Dirty Black Summer Single.  Live and
demo versions differ slightly...

When Death had no name
Time stood still
Life had no end-ending

Before the world
There was no end
No fear no mortal thing
Nothing

And this thing
Mortals fear
Death, evil hungry waiting to nothing
Oblivion

Life without an end
Death without a name

Then all eden burns in flames
Then all eden still remains
  still remains
Can you really make it end?
Yeah!

And this thing
Mortals fear
Death, evil hungry waiting to nothing
Oblivion

Life without an end
Death without a name

When Death had no name
Time stood still
Life had no ending at all


--sparks will keep on falling and I despise you now
Suaron
From: campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re:Helloween
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:19:14 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1993Jan27.014657.24802@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.013506.12001@cc.umontreal.ca> campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik) writes:
>>Heard some days ago that Helloween are putting a new album next
>>spring. Anyone knows more? I was thinking how good it would be 
>>if Hansen was back in the band...
>>I also heard (on TV) that Halford will return with Judas Priest as
>>soon as he's finished with his solo project, that is FIGHT.
>>Another thing: if someone has some newsabout Scorpions, please post.
>>
>Isn't Gamma Ray like what Helloween would have been with Kai these past few
>years?
>
Well, I have only heard one song by G.Ray and it was "One With The World"
or something like that and it sounded a lot like Helloween (of course)
but I think that this solo project by Kai hasn't done too well and
nor has Helloween so, I don't know, maybe Hansen is back or something
(I'm just supposing, just dreaming =) )
Anyways, I think that yes, G.Ray sounds like Helloween with Kai.

Erik The Viking





-- 
Greetings, my children              And if you have the courage
Come with me now                    To cross the rainbow bridge
And discover the magic              You may find
That lies beyond the sealed dreams  The Sacred Heart   -R.J.Dio, 1985.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden info?
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:22:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.004313.11154@cc.umontreal.ca> campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik) writes:
>In article <93026.091741TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>Anyways Nicko McBain can never replace Clive Burr on the drums!!!!!
>>
>
>Well, I also prefer Clive Burr but Nicko's doing a good job even though I
>don't like his style too much.
>Anyone knows why Burr left the band?

Allegedly (I got this from Suaron) Burr was pressured by his girlfriend to
quit the band, maybe because of the constant touring. I suppose they broke
up because you then see Clive Burr playing with Gogmagog, then with
Desperado, and most recently Elixir.

wei hao
Philip Wei Hao Wang                     E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"I have loved, I have lost, I have killed those who have loved me so. I have 
 learned, but at what cost, Lord, I don't know... I'm living on borrowed time"
                       - Diamond Head, "Living On Borrowed Time"
From: grendel@src4src.linet.org (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:11:39 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source

In article <phlegm.727935901@cs1.bradley.edu> phlegm@cs1.bradley.edu (Kevin Bourrillion) writes:
>feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin) writes:
>
>>its amazing how many morons out there dont recognize sarcasm
>
>It's amazing how many morons out there don't know how to indicate it.
>
It's amazing how many morons need to have sarcasm pointed out to them.
 
Maybe this post belongs in alt.cascade...
 
--Don



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From: ender@triryche.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: DT question
Date: 28 Jan 1993 07:33:48 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: triryche.uu.net


|> Ender, is that a dare?  I guess I'll have to Interview Mr. Moore
|> next time around, eh????

Who ME?  Dare anyone?  NEVER...  =)

|> Awaiting a thread on what Metropolis I is about, so I can QUOTE PETRUCCI
|> from my interview about it!!! PUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH...

Uh...  well, let's see... uh... could it be... uh... about a city?  A big
city?  No, no.. that's not it...  not really...  Death & love?  Er, not
quite...

=)

|> Ok, enough outta me, Dream on...
|> 
|> Mike (Weintraub, *not* Portnoy)  :)
|> ---
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    "When someone says `My heart needs lifting.' don't ask `How come?',
     ask `How high?'" - "Don't Look Past Me" by Dream Theater (unreleased)
From: ano@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Adrian Ogden)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: DT question
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:01:33 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

ender@triryche.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh) writes:

>In article <1993Jan26.022858.4202@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd) writes:

>|> Well, I can *almost* answer your question.  Yes, they are saying
>|> something...something from Hamlet.  From info given to me by a couple
>|> friends that are true fanatics, Pull Me Under is not only about suicide,
>|> but based on Hamlet.  The last lines are from the play.  "All life is
>|> good..."  Sorry, but I forgot the rest.  Maybe Ender will see this and
>|> remind us all :)

Are you sure it's about suicide? I saw it more as merely the acceptance
of the inevitability of death, not actually taking deliberate steps to
hasten it.

Many thanks to Ender for those Hamlet references! I'd never have
spotted them; I don't usually read Shakespeare if I can avoid it.


<<  Adrian Ogden -- "Sic Biscuitus Disintegrat" -- ano@csres.cs.rdg.ac.uk  >>
From: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: TRADES WANTED!
Date: 23 Jan 1993 03:07:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


[I am posting this for a friend from back home in Michigan]

------------------------------------------------------------

WANTED:  Model trains, HO scale; Slot Cars; Star Wars toys;
         The Simpsons merchandise;

Go look in your basement or attic; you may have what I am 
looking for!  

Will trade rare music stuff:  signed; promos; bootleg audio 
and concert footage; rare imports.  From popular rock and 
metal acts like Metallica and GnR to less popular or older
bands.  Will trade just about anything else, too, including
baseball cards.  Cash also possible. 

Write to:      Otto Weyer
               9914 Centralia
               Redford, MI 48239

Call:          (313) 937-8000

------------------------------------------------------------

This guy really has the stuff.  His name is listed in the 
thank you notes for Iron Maiden's Seventh Son of a Seventh 
Son, and he got me backstage when Metallica came to Detriot.

                                         Moses


 
-- 
    "And the Raven never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
     On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
     And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
     And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;"
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:07:09 EST
From: <RJH139@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: QUEENSRYCHE

I love DT,  but lets have a little change of subject for once.  There has to be
 a lot of Queensryche fans out there.  I never get tired of em.  Operation Mind
crime is the best written rock album ever.  Does anyone know of anything new in
 the works?  I'm getting anxious.  I haven't heard too much from them since the
 rereleased "eyes of a stranger" when the Building Empires Video came out.
From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Hammerjacks on Feb 27?? (was Re: Dream Theater in Baltimore!)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 16:57:52 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
Distribution: usa

In article <1k9c2rINN7j7@rodan.UU.NET> ender@rodan.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh) writes:
>Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....  I was so psyched about this I called Hammerjacks
>and guess what...  they know nothing about this...  I've been trying to
>call 103.1, but I live in Northern VA and can't remember the friggin'
>call letters, so I can't get the number from information.  Can someone 
>in the know:
>
>A) Post/mail me the call letters of 103.1 in Baltimore
>
>B) Post/mail me the phone number for 103.1 (concert line would be
>   nice, but it's probably a recording...  would like to speak to
>   a live person if the recording gives no info.)
>
>-OR-
>
>C) Call 103.1 and get details, corrections, whatever and summarize
>   for the rest of us?
>
>If I manage to find anything out I'll post details...

Well, since Ender's unavailable for comment at the moment (in otehr words
- he works nights, he's asleep) I, his roommate who he's mentioned
several times in passing, will update on his behalf:

Well, after much digging, I finally got the number for 103 - V103.  Well,
I embarrased myself by calling them, and was informed, that no, they were
not underground radio, but that the number for 103.1 was blah blah blah.

I called them up, and they again stated that yes, they have "official"
word that Dream Theater is playing Hammerjack's on Feb. 27th.  They would
not give me their source (what, is this the press or something?  Sheesh).

When I called H-Jack's this morning, their phone droid could find no sign
of this from their end.  So, I am going to continue digging on this.
Film at 11.

Steve Mansfield                   Junior AlterNet Engineer 
smm@uunet.uu.net                  uunet!smm
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: DT question
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:08:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.103404.19548@leland.Stanford.EDU> tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson) writes:
>I know all you DT nuts out there are just dying to answer my question. ok,
>at the end of pull me under (the album mix)...where it repeats that little
>keyboard ditty and then ends abrubtly.  when they start singing, are they
>singing anything?  i can't tell if there are words there or not. if so, what
>are they.
>
>i'm sure somebody'll know!
>
kIt's supposed to end abruptly. Next time they sing is a new song.

wei hao
Wang Wei Hao                            E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"I have loved, I have lost, I have killed those who have loved me so. I have 
 learned, but at what cost, Lord, I don't know... I'm living on borrowed time"
                       - Diamond Head, "Living On Borrowed Time"
From: jmvleuge@cs.ruu.nl (Jules Vleugels)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: DT's drummer
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:12:36 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <20JAN199311054047@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu> ntruelove@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (THE NEXT PERSON WHO SLIMES ME WILL KNOW THE TRUE MEANING OF PAIN.) writes:

>Several people have praised Dream Theater for their ability and musicianship
>and several have questioned their songwriting ability:  that is good.  No band
>is for everybody.  I personally love them.  They are doing their own thing,
>which few bands since the seventies have done, i.e. Yes, Jethro Tull....the
>list goes on and on.  Yea, I know, this list seems like
>alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive.dream_theater sometimes.
>
>Anyway, someone recently said that Dream Theater's drummer only plays simple
>lines.  While the individual chops may not be earthshattering, the rythms are
>very complex.  I have a friend who is a jazz drummer.  He plays Buddy Rich,
>Neil Pert, and Tony Williams in his sleep.  His name is Alex Smith.  (For those
>of you who don't know who Tony Williams is and like complex rythms, check out
>the jazz--rock fusion scene ala early 1970's....Mahavishu Orchestra, Jean-Luc
>Ponty, Tony Williams Lifetime, etc. all played lot's of stuff in 5/4, 7/8,
>9/11, and mixed times.  This scene produced Phil Collins and many others.)
>
>Alex helped me to understand many of the songs by Rush....sliding in and out of
>7/8's from 4/4.  Not only is DT the only band besides Soundgarden i've heard
>use 7/8's in a long time, but my buddy Alex said Images and Words would take
>him over a year to learn by ear.  This guy reenacted Neil Pert's live solo to
>YYZ after hearing it on the radio!  (In all fairness, he had studied Neil's
>licks for years.) 
>
>Bottom line:  DT's drum lines may only use redimentary chops, but the rythms
>and time-changes are incredibly difficult to master.  Try drumming to
>Metropolis if you don't believe me.
>
>NadsteR
>
I'm sorry but I have to disagree with that. I'm a drummer myself and
consider myself to be (at the most) a medium-gifted player. The band I
play with (Cybhra; I don't think anybody has heard of us yet) makes
regular use of odd-time measures like (of course) 7/8 and 9/8, but
also some as uncommon as 13/16 or 15/16. I can't say it's the easiest
stuff to play, but it certainly is not THAT difficult just because of
the odd timing. I couldn't play a Neil Peart solo if my life depended
on it, but I don't have much difficulty with most of the DT parts.
And I forgot to mention that I DO like DT.

Jules.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 27 Jan 1993 11:48:28 EST
From: Brent Sutherland <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: EZO

Anyone here like EZO?  What are they doing now?
Am I their only fan?

-Boss Sutherland-
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: savatage@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Brent Bowman)
Subject: Re: EZO
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:56:52 GMT

In article <93027.114828IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Brent Sutherland <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>Anyone here like EZO?

	Yes. I like them.

>What are they doing now?

	As far as I know, EZO is no more.

	Masaki Yamada, ex-lead singer of EZO is now the lead singer
	of Loudness.

	On June 10, 1992 Loudness released their first album with
	him on vocals... Hopefull a new one will be coming out soon.

>Am I their only fan?

	No.

>-Boss Sutherland-

			--- Brent

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From: misselt@trapper.sdsu.edu.sdsu.edu (Karl &)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Watchtower/DT
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:27:21 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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    Good afternoon all, 

	I have an album by the band Watchtower called 'Control and Resistance'
Excellent stuff.  I haven't followed them too closely, but have heard from a 
friend of a friend of a friend etc., that they either have a new album out 
or will soon.  Anybody out there know anything about this?  

	On to the prime subject of this newsgroup, Dream Theater.  I have been 
into these guys since 'When Dream and Day Unite'.  I thought I was just about 
the only one who liked em.  Apparently not from the volume of traffic I see on 
this group about them.  That's cool, they're well deserving of the attention.  
I'm curious about where I can get ahold of this unreleased stuff I keep hearing 
about.  I have both of their 'official' albums and have been wearing them out.  
(My WDaDU cd  is about to fall apart and/or implode from overuse... Has it been 
re-released by ATCO?)  If someone could point me towards this other stuff, I'd 
appreciate it.  I just don't think I'm patient enough to wait for the next album
to hear 'new' stuff.  
     
Thanks,
-Karl M.
From: hallg@egr.msu.edu (Gregory Hall)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: More Info on Dream Theater in Detroit
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:19:38 GMT
Reply-To: hallg@egr.msu.edu (Gregory Hall)
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: frith.egr.msu.edu
Originator: hallg@frith.egr.msu.edu

For Dream Theater fans:

Dream Theater will be performing Friday January 22 at Harpo's in Detroit.

For all interested:

Harpo's
14238 Harper
(313) 824-1700

If I remember correctly, Harpo's is right off of I-94.

Greg Hall
hallg@egr.msu.edu
From: thbon@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Thomas Bonk)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Dream Theatre?!?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 09:28:12 GMT
Organization: Studenten-Mail, Rechenzentrum Universitaet des Saarlandes
NNTP-Posting-Host: sbustd.stud.uni-sb.de

Is this a newsgroup specially for Dream Theatre fans, or what? Thought it is
for all progressive metal-bands.

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: ntruelove@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (JUST WHEN YOU THOUGHT IT WAS SAFE TO CHECK YOUR E-MAIL...)
Subject: Re: DT's drummer
Originator: news@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:08:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services

I wasn't trying to flame anyone or say that DT's drummer is the best.  If you
would like me to make a copy of WHEN_DREAM_AND_DAY_UNITE from CD, E-mail me and
send me a tape.


NadsteR