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From: steve@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com (Steven Martin)
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
XXXDate: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:40:40 GMT
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In article <1992Nov20.155459.6850@nas.nasa.gov> Dan King,
dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov writes:
>>Sure, sex may be fun, but be prepared to deal with all that it entails 
>>No Sex is Safe Sex. 
>>Everybody knows that there isn't any condom that guarantees no pregnancy
>>will result.  And they don't prevent the horrible diseases that can
>>result from sex, either. 
> 
>Then don't have sex.  Some of us feel the rewards from sex are 
>worth the risk.  Some of us are willing to leave our houses 
>knowing that it could result in harm, but knowing the reward 
>is worth the risk.  If you feel safer staying in your house 
>and avoiding all outside risk, hey I would never pass legislation
>forcing you to leave your house.

I'm sorry, what risk are you referring to? Since you feel no 
responsibility towards an unborn child and you can talk so callously
about killing such an infant, it is apparent that you aren't taking
any risks at all. Unless you mean the risk of having to pay for someone
elses abortion!

I guess I hadn't realized that I had become so out of touch and that
I wasn't aware that so many people are using abortion as casual
birth control. Naturally if you don't have even the morals to consider
that you may be killing another human being, then you won't feel much
compelled to consider taking responsible action to keep the pregnancy
from happening in the first place.

Thank you for making me aware how morally low people in this nation
have sunk. I think I have just become much clearer in my stance on
abortion.

Elizabeth, don't let these hypocrites twist your thoughts about the
subject. It is refreshing to find young people who use their brains
rather than their genitals to make important decisions in their lives.

        Steve Martin
        steve@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com

"The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and
 bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against 
 tyranny in government."  Thomas Jefferson
Xref: sparky alt.rush-limbaugh:10031 or.politics:688
From: stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,or.politics
Subject: Re: Homosexual marriage (was: The Difference Between Cs and Ls)
Keywords: homosexual, marriage
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce)
Distribution: na
Organization: Handmade Designs, Salem, OR, USA

In article <Bx4E2v.MJ2@agora.rain.com> batie@agora.rain.com
(Alan Batie) writes:
<stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce) writes:
<>homosexuals can marry under the law (to people of the
<>opposite sex) and they often do.
<
<Yes, but I'd rather marry the person I love, and there's no good reason
<why I shouldn't be able to.

For the nth time, you can marry the person you love.  Why do you think you
need the blessing of the state or society to do that?  You don't you know.
You are free to marry any other consenting person or group you like (in
Oregon and most states).  You just can't get a state marriage license
unless it is a member of the opposite sex you want to marry.
-- 
orstcs!opac!bug!stevef          I am the NRA              Steven R. Fordyce
uunet!sequent!ether!stevef         . . .  	        Deer are for Dinner
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From: cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:19:03 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Re: Patsy Schroeder on Term Limits
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: 

In article <6996@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> rovero@maui.oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero) writes:
>More people voted FOR term limits in each of the 14 states which had
>it on the ballot than voted for Bill Clinton.
>
>Hint:  It wasn't just conservatives who supported these measures.

So?  How many of those people who voted for term limits also voted to 
return their current congresscritter to office?
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From: jorgense@plains.NoDak.edu (Lee A. Jorgensen)
Subject: Rush's book
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 05:51:03 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Well, it seems that Rush Limbaugh's book has returned to
it's lofty #1 position on the New Yorks Best-Seller list. (non-fiction,
hardcover)

Madonna seems to be going down ... And Rush is now atop her.
Well, Madonna USED to be atop Rush, but no longer.

Number one again ... I guess it will be on my Christmas list.

hehehe ...

-Lee.

-- 
Lee Jorgensen             Internet: jorgense@plains.NoDak.edu
-------------------------------------------------------------
           These are the opinions of my employer
    and they do NOT reflect any personal opinion of mine.
From: libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Malcom the Tenth
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:53:19 GMT
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Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
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grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea) writes:
: In <1992Nov21.230953.14125@seq.uncwil.edu> session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions) writes:
: 
: >greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) writes:
: 
: >>You are correct. Lee is not a racist on the same level with Helms. But
: >>Malcolm X was. We can thank (?) Lee for not bringing that racist attitude
: >>into the 90s with his film.
: 
: >It is debatable that the label "racist" can properly be applied to
: >Malcolm X.
: 
: He spent a good deal of his time as leader of the Panthers railing against
: the "White devils".  Though he later recanted, X was undoubtedly a racist
: during most of his career.  The only way you could fail to acknowledge this
: is if you made the case that "there is no such thing as a black racist",
: a statement with which I strongly disagree.

Malcolm was never the leader of the Black Panthers; in fact, that 
organization was formed after his death.  Once again, I suggest
that you confine your statements to things you know something
about. 

Bill    
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From: young@ssdd475a.erim.org (Peter Young)
Subject: PC for RL
In-reply-to: eyc@acpub.duke.edu's message of 17 Nov 92 19:18:10 GMT
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:23:40

In article <7075@news.duke.edu> eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:

>   discriminated against; perhaps not because he's white, or because he's
>   fat (rotund), or because he's male, but because he's a CONSERVATIVE. Now
 
Let's show some PC and decorum: that's "gravitationally significant".
--
Peter Young
young@erim.org
From: rickertj@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (John Rickert)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Religious Right (was Re: Rush Limbaugh: Victory from Defeat)
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:29:24 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University Mathematics Department


   Oh, I get it now.  It took me long enough.  But I think I finally
caught on.  Religious = religious right.  A public reference to religion
is right-wing extremism.  Now I see...


John Rickert					Nec vitia nostra nec
rickertj@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu		remedia pati possumus.
							-- Livy
From: dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Religious Right (was Re: Rush Limbaugh: Victory from Defeat)
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:35:13 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

For that matter, I'm unclear why the media uses the phrase "religious right,"
and not, say, "homosexual left," or "feminist left."  For that matter, I've
never heard an "*anything*-left" mentioned.  To the media, the opposite of
"right" is not "left," but "moderate."
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Subject: pro-life poster child of the week (was: rights and responsibilities)
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 01:36:45 GMT


In article <1992Nov17.140112.28381@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, psmith@iies.ecn.purdue.edu writes:
|I used to think sex was "important" outside of making babies.
|Now that I have two children I realize that this is utterly
|false.  And when you make one that you keep you might realize
|that, too.

It's fine & dandy that you happen to find the idea of making
babies erotic.  What you do in your bedroom with consenting
adults is your business.  Just remember that what spins your
socks might not spin everyone else's socks.  You make sexual
decisions only for yourself.  What the rest of the world does
in bed is none of your business.

Really, when you talk like that you make the pro-life movement
look like... well, like a bunch of out-of-touch loonies.

---
cj@eno.esd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"That is the case with us all, Papa.  One half of the world cannot
understand the pleasures of the other."  --Jane Austen
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Subject: Re: Final call for Clinton cabinet nominations
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:56:46 GMT

roby@brahms.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:

[excellent list of huomorous appointments for Clinton administration
 deleted for space]

>These are very funny...  But they will have a tough job trying to 
>be funny enough after the ACTUAL Reagan/Bush appointments... 
>(James Watts, for starters...  )  :-)

And Manuel Lujan for enders!! ;-)

-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington (Alumni)
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:22:14 -0500 
From: Gary James Patalsky <gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: The Fraud called Global Warming


More proof that global warming is a fraud.  The average temperature in
the Antartic has dropped by 2.5 degrees in the last 40 years, according
to an article in the Milwaukee Sentinel.  This is the same place that
environmentalists said would be most affected by ozone depletion (which
hasn't occured either).   What about those ice caps that are supposed to
melt??  You would, of course, never hear about these facts this on the
national news.
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt)
Subject: Re: Limbaugh Watch Day 16
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Date: 19 Nov 92 18:53:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.164757.1154@news.stolaf.edu> Alex Kamilewicz,
kamilewi@lars.accadmin.stolaf.edu writes:

>Rush will be around for a while, but
>until he uses lots of unbaised facts and testimonies and the like, he
will
>be no more than a conservative demogogue, propped up by his own
fallacies.

Don't hold your breath.  There's a saying in the Broadcast business...

     "If it works, don't fix it."

An unbiased viewpoint spell the end of E.I.B.!

Greg Bradt  aka  ()The Lensman()
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From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Subject: Re: Malcom the Tenth
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:09:53 GMT

greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) writes:

>You are correct. Lee is not a racist on the same level with Helms. But
>Malcolm X was. We can thank (?) Lee for not bringing that racist attitude
>into the 90s with his film.

It is debatable that the label "racist" can properly be applied to
Malcolm X.

>I once lived in North Carolina. Unless things have changed dramatically
>since the early 80's (they may have), you'll be well prepared for Clinton.
>You're already taxed to death.

Actually things aren't that bad, and I don't expect Clinton to be the
cause of things getting any worse here in North Carolina.

In fact, people travel to North Carolina to buy cigarettes since our
state tax on them is lower than just about anywhere else.

-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington (Alumnus)
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: stamber@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin L. Stamber)
Subject: Re: Rush's book
Summary: wow
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:23:56 GMT

In article <By3s93.EH8@ns1.nodak.edu>, jorgense@plains.NoDak.edu (Lee A. Jorgensen) writes:
> Well, it seems that Rush Limbaugh's book has returned to
> it's lofty #1 position on the New Yorks Best-Seller list. (non-fiction,
> hardcover)
> 
> Madonna seems to be going down ... And Rush is now atop her.
> Well, Madonna USED to be atop Rush, but no longer.

note that Rush is atop Madonna, and that Gen. Schwarzkopf is directly
beneath.

Doesn't that make for a scary image (I hope you weren't eating).

> hehehe ...

   dittos to that.

> 
> -Lee.
> 
> -- 
> Lee Jorgensen             Internet: jorgense@plains.NoDak.edu
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>            These are the opinions of my employer
>     and they do NOT reflect any personal opinion of mine.

Kevin L. Stamber
THE BUCKET'S BACK -- BUT I'M STILL NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT
  (and damn proud of both!)
Purdue University

"Next week...thanksgiving...GOBBLE GOBBLE!"
                                - John McLaughlin
                                  The McLaughlin Group
                                  November 21, 1992
From: don@ocf.berkeley.edu (Don Bromley)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: thEwIndBag bashes Rev. Jackson, again
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Date: 24 Nov 1992 05:01:04 GMT
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In article <10094@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> joslin@pogo.isp.pitt.edu (David Joslin) writes:
>Just to bring this thread back to the original topic, on his TV
>show a few nights ago Rush explained that he pronounced Cuomo's
>name "Coo-mo" because the Reverend Jackson (which Rush pronounces
>"uh-REV-uh-rend-uh-JACK-son-uh") pronounced it that way one time,
>and Rush doesn't want to be accused of making fun of Reverend
>Jackson's pronunciation.
>
>Vintage Rush.  He makes fun of Jackson's pronunciation (both when
>pronouncing "Cuomo" and when pronouncing "Reverend Jackson"), then
>denies that he is doing it, and then claims to be going out of his
>way to *avoid* making fun of Jackson.  
>
>Of course, every good Limbot knows that Rush was only joking, and
>that this is not an example of Rush hiding his nastiness behind
>empty disclaimers.

  Was it "nastiness" when the media went bonkers over Quayle's
  misspelling of potato?  When comics make fun of conservatives
  it's hilarious, but when they make fun of a liberal like
  Jesse Jackson it's nasty.... makes lots of sense to me!

>David


"Nothing in man is more serious than his sense of humor; it is the
sign that he wants all the truth."
					-Mark Van Doren

					-Don Bromley
					don@ocf.berkeley.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,sci.physics
From: gsmith@lauren.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Gene W. Smith)
Subject: Re: ENGLE: up to his old tricks (>)
Keywords: Engle
Organization: IWR, University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:08:34 GMT

In article <nate.827@psygate.psych.indiana.edu>
nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:

>Wasn't Dirac's relativistic QM a direct response to Einstein's
>criticism?

In what way was Dirac's stuff a response to criticism by Einstein?
Anybody know about this?

-- 
     Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/IWR/Ruprecht-Karls University 
               gsmith@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de
From: stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush a bigot?  A case study.
Keywords: hate
Date: 22 Nov 92 06:20:37 GMT
Reply-To: stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce)
Organization: Handmade Designs, Salem, OR, USA

In article <1e65c4INNeqk@spool.mu.edu> marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu
(Marc Rassbach) writes:
|In article <1127@bug.UUCP> stevef@bug.UUCP (Steven R Fordyce) writes:
|>I think you unjustifiably underestimate his audience.  Moreover, I see
|>no reason to think Rush is being anything but honest and forthright in
|>his opinions.
|
|Even if to support these opinions he has to twist facts or ignore facts

Can you given an example?

|Rush is in a good position.  He can sit down and crumple paper, offer
|up 900 numbers and get phonecalls, letters, email and faxes all
|telling him how wonderful he is.  

How is this a response to my posting?  Do you think these people are all
unthinking dupes, fooled by the clever Rush Limbaugh?  Justify your
position (whatever it is), please.
-- 
orstcs!opac!bug!stevef          I am the NRA              Steven R. Fordyce
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From: pvanmeur@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Pim van Meurs)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: The Fraud called Global Warming
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:33:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <Ef4Gxaa00awYQ41EUn@andrew.cmu.edu> gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gary James Patalsky) writes:
>
>More proof that global warming is a fraud.  The average temperature in
>the Antartic has dropped by 2.5 degrees in the last 40 years, according
>to an article in the Milwaukee Sentinel.  This is the same place that

Ouch, global warming hardly assumes an equal increase of
temperatures. There will be hot spots and cold spots. Global warming
is not to mistaken for a global increase in temperature but a
increase in the average global temperature.
>environmentalists said would be most affected by ozone depletion (which
>hasn't occured either).   What about those ice caps that are supposed to

Ozone depletion <> global warming. A common missunderstanding.
And why do you say ozone depletion has not occured. There are 40
year old records showing a decreasing trend in the ozone
concentration, very well correlated with the increase in CFC
production. Furthermore, the mechanism of how CFC's interact with
ozone has been well documented. So we have an observation, a
correlation and the chemical reactions. What more proof do you need
? Or what proof do you have that ozone depletion is a myth ?

>melt??  You would, of course, never hear about these facts this on the
>national news.

What do you mean ? Icecaps that are supposed to melt. An increase in
average global temperatures will have an impact on the icecaps which
is not easily to predict. Global warming, unlike ozone depletion, is
scientifically speaking still a topic of uncertainty. Lots of effort
is put into obtaining scinetific evidence to prove or disprove these
assumptions. The well documented increase in CO2 is certainly a
reason to be careful. I agree when you say that global warming has
not been proven yet, but noone would deny this. Ozone depletion
however has been well documented.
Pim van Meurs


-- 
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From: gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gary James Patalsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Spotted Owl/Re:The Environment
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:09:47 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


In a Reader Digest story a couple of months ago, they also said that
that there were 10 times as many spotted owls as the environmentalists
claimed.  In addition, the report also said that the owls have been
doing very well in new forests (environmentalists have claimed that the
owl can only live in old forests).  They also said that over 100,000
jobs have lost to this controversy.  This is ridiculous!!  Giving more
rights to a stupid bird than human beings - just another case of wackos
elevating an animal above the level of a human.
And these same people complain about the unemployment rate.  Let's give
these people there jobs back - if the owl becomes extinct - so be it. 
IMO, the bird will not go extinct if taken off the endangered species
list.

(I can't remember if this was a study commissioned by Reader's Digest or
was done by an outside group ; it really doesn't matter)
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From: greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt)
Subject: Re: Religious Right (was Re: Rush Limbaugh: Victory from
     Defeat)
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Date: 23 Nov 92 18:17:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.060610.8099@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> Ted
Krueger, krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu writes:

>But on the other hand, what damage does voluntary school prayer do?  

It depends on what kind of "voluntary school prayer" you are talking
about.  It is patently impossible to restrict prayer, when done in the
privacy of one's thoughts.  However, public displays of religious
devotion are disruptive and have no place in the school environment. 
Worse yet, "organized" prayer times infringe on the rights of those
who feel such demonstrations are, at best, silly or, at worst,
sacreligious.

You have a "right" to smoke, as long as I don't have to breathe it. 
You have a "right" to pray as long as I don't have to endure it.

>I could, for example, claim that homosexuals should not be 
>allowed to share showers with heterosexuals because the heteros would 
>feel selfconscious, but we all know that the supreme court nor the 
>ACLU cares a lick about how heteros feel about these things.

Same argument.  Homosexuals can do whatever they want, in private, or
in their own thoughts.  As long as they are only showering, then the
heteros have no cause for complaint.

If heteros are uncomfortable with the mere _presence_ of homosexuals,
then it is _they_ who have the problem.  There is no parallel in the
prayer issue.

Greg Bradt aka ()The Lensman

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