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From: terri@shark.cse.fau.edu (Terri McCarty)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Introducing a new cat into your home
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:44:48 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

Hello again.  I wrote a few weeks ago about adopting the outside cat.  Now I    have a new question.  I introduced the cat to my two resident cats slowly, 
as has been mentioned here.  After about a week or so, everyone seemed to be
getting along fine.  Then last week my sweet little lap cat decided to growl
at the new cat any time he approached her.  Lucky (the new cat) didn't like thismuch, and he and Shadow have started to fight.  So far it's flying hair and 
growling, which ends before I even get to the spray bottle, but this weekend 
they started hissing too.  Although it may just be Shadow who is hissing.  
Lucky has figured out that he really gets Shadow upset by sitting down near 
her and staring at her (intimidation?) and he is usually the one who initiates 
the fight after Shadow growls for a while.  Rascal stays out of the whole thing, which is strange, because he and Lucky were the ones with the problem initially,but I guess they worked it out.  My husband is getting to the point where he 
wants to find a new home for Lucky, although we haven't found anyone who can
take him.  I don't want to give him up, and I don't want to consider bringing   him to a shelter, because he is a very sweet cat, when 
he and Shadow aren't at each other.  Most of the day, they calmly sit in the 
same room, and even sniff each other sometimes, but then the growling starts.
I don't know what else to do.  Any suggestions?
From: martin@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How much food should a cat eat?
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:37:14 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

> including the idea that one should necessarily remove food between feedings.
> This is Fraser's Cardinal Rule, particularly in FUS cases, as she claims
> that the smell of food triggers a digestive reaction that causes the urine
> to become less acidic.  Less acidic urine does contribute to FUS.
> 
> So, what I'm wondering is:  How do other netters feel about free feeding?
> Is this good for cats, bad for them, or does it make no difference?

when my neutered male Ivory got FUS, my vet gave me a photocopied handout
describing some strategies that could be used to fight the problem.  One 
of the suggestions was a list of acidic foods that, if the cat would eat 
them, would help balance the PH of the urine and prevent the crystalization.

there were lots of things high in vitimin C on the list, orange juice, 
tomato juice, etc.. I went through the list and tried my guy on them until
we found one he liked..  he picked tomato juice.. so, thereafter, he always 
had a small saucer of tomato juice beside his water bowl, and he never, ever
had another reoccurance of the problem...

he was free fed dry catfood..
From: bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help! Any Farm Cats Out There?
Date: 10 Apr 1992 18:50:30 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

[Post about Samantha possibly moving to a farm deleted.  "Mom" is worried.
:) ]

Well, I have never had an indoor kitty; all of mine (at one time, 48 of
them) have been strictly outoor farm cats.  (Personally, I never want that
many again.  It's to difficult to find homes for the ones that aren't
"cute.")

My family has never had large vet bills, despite the hazards of outdoor
living.  We get the required vaccinations every year, since rabies is a
definite threat, especially after this year's warm winter, which didn't 
clear out the rabid skunk population.  (Garfield, our older cat, likes
to tease skunks so.....).  We've had to deal with one abscess from one
fight, and we've had every cat that we have kept neutered.         

We have had a problem with "older" neutered cats running off/being taken.
It seems that someone in our area knows that we take good care of our
cats and that we neuter them.  So, when they get to be about 4 yrs. old,
that someone takes the most trusting ones.  (My dad has pretty well
figured out who it is, so his cat-nabbing days are numbered.)  

Since Samantha is a little older than any I have started out with, your
friend will want to take some extra precautions about teaching her about
tires and engines.  We always kept our kitties in a *big* cage during
"birthing" and taught them that a door slamming means "Get away from
the tires and out of the engine."  We only lost one to being run over.
She was sluggish from having been to the vet for a penicillin injection,
so she didn't quite move fast enough.

If Samantha is declawed, you can pretty well forget about sending her to
the farm.  My Garfield had the claws removed on his left paw when he
was 6, as the tendons were hyper-extened beyond repair after a fight.
The vet gave us three options:  declaw him on that paw, remove his
leg or put him down.  We opted for the least painful (for him) operation.
Now, he doesn't fight.  He just "coaches" Midnight on his fighting...

The biggest thing is that Samantha be neutered.  Make sure of that before
you send her off....

Good luck to both of you.  And don't worry.  She'll be just fine.

Beth


-- 
The brighest day is America will be when education has enough funding and
the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a new bomber....My history
teacher.....  bets@ksuvm.ksu.edu   bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
From: ehp@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU ("Didi Pancake")
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Particular Names
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:15:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Apr9.201536.16994
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

As we've recently seen, t.s. eliot believes that cats have three names.
When I got my present two critters, I had an inordinate amount of trouble
coming up with any names for them...after weeks of trying out all the
interesting names I could think of, Correy and Cleo were the only ones
that would stick (and I have *no* idea where those two names came
to me from...thin air, presumably).

Now that they are five years old and around a dozen pounds apiece, I have
finally just discovered Correy's "particular" name (as opposed to his
"everyday" name). It's "Danderpuss" which is enormously apt. He certainly
"gets his dander up" a lot protecting the house from (evil) things like
postal carriers, birds, dogs and other strangers. He also "gets his
dander up" quite literally by being a veritable flake factory!

For a while I thought Cleo's particular name was "Spooo-kitty" because
she's so spooky, but it doesn't stick very well, so I'm still waiting for
hers to reveal itself.

(My former cat, Thuvia's particular name was Fuzz-bucket, and I've always
believed that her sister Gummitch's everyday and particular names were
the same.)
--
|  Didi Pancake         |       "There is a great, red cheeseball        |
|  ehp@virginia.edu     |       of insanity in this picnic basket."      |
|------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|  All the usual disclaimers about the origins of these opinions apply.  |
From: noel@slc.unisys.com (Eileen Noel)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Moving cats
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:00:44 GMT
Organization: Unisys, Salt Lake City, Utah

In a couple of weeks I will be moving to a new (old) house.  During
the moving process (doors open, strangers, noise) I am concerned
about my old (13 & 14 year) cats.  I am considering a couple of 
things:      
   - farm them out to a friend's house for the day
       (quiet, but an unfamiliar place)
   - lock them in a room in our current house
       (familiar, but noisy and scary stuff going on)

Anyone have any experience/opinions on this?  Also, what suggestions
do people have for when we move them to the new house.  The current
owners have a cat, so it will smell of strange cat.  I want to make
sure the guys are comfortable and not too stressed out.

Thanks

Eileen
noel@unisys.slc.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: bq434@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael A. Chance)
Subject: Re: Well!  I'll be darned...
Reply-To: cpg3078@swuts.sbc.com (Michael A. Chance)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 19:00:40 GMT


In a previous article, walrus@bessel.umd.edu (Grig Larson) says:

>They're
>only $1.59 where I get 'em, so for 6 month's pleasure, heck! It's worth
>that for my cat!

We've gotten similar toys for our Russian Blue queen (and that is
*definitely* the correct term 8-), and watching her play with them is a
little like the old Tootsie Pop commercials (the ones where the boy asks
the Wise Old Owl how many licks does it take to get to the center, the
owl takes 3 licks than bites into the middle).

Alexis manages to reduce said toys to unrecognizeable bits of fluff in
about 3-5 days.  When the exterminators try to sells us rodent
protection we giggle a lot.

Michael A. Chance
From: dwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: treats
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:25:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: hamp.1992Apr9.202558.1
Organization: Hampshire College

Of our 6 cats 3 love any kind of treats, usually bonkers or pounce. 1
only likes Bonkers Gourmet.  And my 2 originals, Biscuit and Marmalade firmly
believe either B. or P. are poison pellets to be avoided at all costs.

Unfortunately, this doesn't stop them from wanting their tidbits too so what
to do?  I try to keep stuff from our dinners like chopped up chicken skin,
but there's not that much.  Does anyone have suggestions for homemade treats?
I know dog breeders sometimes bake liver to dry it and make pieces to
get their dogs' attention, but I'm not fond of liver and would rathr not
do this.  What I need is something small (broken into pieces perhaps), 
dry so it doesn't get gross, and tasty.  Catnip biscuits perhaps?

 
Deb Whitney
From: ambar@CYGNUS.COM (Jean Marie Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: White cats and yellowing fur
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:36:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: cygnus.9204070136.AA07173
Reply-To: ambar@cygnus.com


   From article <kdnmilu00Uh_Q1JW8v@andrew.cmu.edu>, by sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner):
   > What a coincidence, I was thinking about asking someone (the net) the
   > same thing today.  My cat brown tabby w/ white belly and paws has a
   > yellow tinge, especially in the more difficult to groom areas (under his
   > neck and on his chest).  His fur is only "yellow" on top because if you
   > move it, it is white underneath.  Hope you get some good answers, and
   > pass them along.  Thanks.

If you cat is eating food (particularly wet food) with any extra
coloring added, it's quite likely that he's painting his coat with those
colorings.  (You know how they love to groom themselves right after
eating...)  My solution is not to use any foods with added colorings.
Some (about half) of the Purina Premium line of wet foods have no extra
coloring.   Get out and read those labels. :-)

				AMBAR
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: re:cat door/window
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:21:15 GMT

I wonder if I've never had a problem with unwanted animals coming in thru
our cat door because it is actually in a high window?  The window is around
10' off the ground so I have what looks like a large open box in front of it
so a cat going out can case the area, or sometime just sit there and obstruct
the other cats!  Anyway, I have a long board slanting up to the box-platform
so they can walk the plank up to the window.  Sometimes we have double-decker
cats: one blocking the door, another sitting on the "roof" looking in the
window so we'll come and shoo the obstructionist off!
-- 
Deb Whitney
From: swwhatley@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (STEVEN WHATLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help my cat is skinny
Keywords: Thanks
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:51:58 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering and Sciences

In <1992Apr14.181211.19280@watserv1.waterloo.edu> khare@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Kathy Hare - DCS) writes:

>Thanks to all who replyed to my post for help. I called the vet and 
>am taking Magee in tomorrow.  As a side not to the person who suggested
>I get him neutered - we had planned on doing it very soon.

I was only making a joke that neutered cats tend to gain weight.

Again, good luck.

Willie, Magic, Steven

P.S.  My cats got upset when I left their names off in my last posting.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lansford@alv (Christina L. Lansford)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Kitty Massage
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:17:13 GMT
Reply-To: lansford@ada.umd.edu (Christina L. Lansford)
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Univ. of Md., College Park, MD 20742

In article <1992Apr17.132820.4780@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> greg@rio.Columbia.NCR.COM (Greg Porr) writes:
>
>Has anyone else ever tried massaging their cat?  The latest issue of
>Cat Fancy has an article about it.
>
>I tried it on Bailey last night for about half an hour, and he loved it.
>He became so relaxed that I thought he might have been in a coma!
>
>I'd recommend reading the article before trying it on your own, since
>you can't be as forceful as you would with another person.
>
>-- Greg Porr
>   (greg@rio.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM)

For a few moments after seeing the title to the article I thought, "Boy, what
a silly thing to write about.  Doesn't everyone massage their kitties?"
Then the other half of my brain kicked in and answered, "No!"  I realized that
my habit of massaging my cats was something I had absorbed from my mother`s
behavior.  Mom has her favorite cat, Motor, a pseudo red-point siamouth.
Mom would pick up the cat, put her face upto his and say, "Massage. (Pause) 
Massage."  Then Mom would sit on the couch, on which under normal circumstances
the cats were not allowed to sit if she was sitting there, put Motor on the 
couch and begin to massage him.  Eventually, there would be a fuzzy 
Puddle-O-Cat on the couch, and he would just lie there for hours afterwards.
Alas, poor Yoshiro, my parents other cat, has never gotten this kind of royal
treatment.  I've never been sure if Mom massaged Motor just to be nice or if
she did it to get him to shut-up for a few hours.


						-Christina L. Lansford
From: gms@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Advice please: ""Spayed Again!""
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:58:44 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

In article <6140682@harvee.UUCP>, scm@harvee.UUCP (S. Mudgett aka little gator) writes:
> In article <DDOUG.92Mar30183341@dl5000.bc.edu> ddoug@dl5000.bc.edu
> (Debra R.Douglass) writes:
> (about a cat being spayed twice because her medical history is unknown:)
>> Of course, if you want to allow your cats to roam, when no scar is
>> visible the only option is surgery (and the vet gets the full spay
>> fee for an open-and-close while your cat goes through the risk of
>> surgery).
>  
> exploratory surgery of this type is harder on both the vet and the patient.
> in a routine spay the vet finds the bits, pops them out, closes, and it's done.
> if the cat was spayed before, the vet usually enlarges the incision a little
>  and spends extra time looking to make sure nothing was missed and the bits
>  really are gone(a cat's uterus isn't very big).  this means surgery time for
>  both patient and doctor, slightly increased trauma to the patient, and
>  enormous aggravation to the surgeon.  but as the previous poster said, it is
>  the only way to find out unless you can afford to wait several months and see.
> fortunately, recovery from both types of surgery are usually about the same.
> --
> -- little gator aka S. Mudgett     email: scm@harvee.uucp
> -- friend of a gator is a friend of mine

Interesting! In Australia cats and dogs are tatooed when "desexed", the
symbol is always the same, a circle with a diagonal bar through it; must
be something the vet assoc thought up, prevents the aboved beging necessary.

Michele
From: C0043@VMCMS.CSUOHIO.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat named George, 3 way calling, speed calling 8, speakerphone
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:10:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: VMCMS.167C3F192.C0043
Organization: Cleveland State University

In article <1992Apr1.201054.262@spdcc.com>
eli@spdcc.com (Steve Elias) writes:
 
>
>
>Occasionally over the past few months, I end up with a message
>on my answering machine that consists of ringing and then someone
>I know picking up the phone and saying "hello?, Hello?, HELLO?",
>and then hanging up.
>
>The speakerphone button is next to the digit keys on the phone,
>and the cat has been stepping on the phone, hitting both speakerphone
>button and one touchtone, and then immediately hanging up the
>speakerphone by standing on the button or jumping a little.
>..........George T. Cat would then have to hit two touch tones to
>make a call.
>
>the end.
>
>/eli
>
>
>--
>/* eli@spdcc.com ; fax->email 508 294 0101 */
 
 
In our house, the solution to phone answering cats has not been so
simple.  My female calico, Baxter, just loves to answer my table-top
phone in the living room.  I'm not overly impressed by the feat since
she won't take messages, doesn't hang up, and leaves kitty-drool on the
handle.  On the other hand, "Grandma" just loves that the little darling
is so talented.
 
The lastest attempt to keep Baxter from her explorations into human-cat
communications has been a bungee cord around the entire phone.
 
Maybe George and Baxter have been together in a former life - maybe as
phone company stock holders?
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Maine Coon Cat?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:02:32 GMT


What is a Maine Coon Cat?

Does the American Alley Cat (the generic 'cat') have a more formal breed
designation?

Do Alley Cats come in longhaired varieties?

Is is possible to make generalisations as to personality and character based on
breed, such as Persian Cats are gentle, Siamese are loud and agressive
troublemakers etc.?

Thank you.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: i1neal@exnet.iastate.edu (Neal Rauhauser -- )
Subject: More Klassic Kitty
Reply-To: i1neal@exnet.iastate.edu (Neal Rauhauser -- )
Organization: Iowa State University Extension
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:54:20 GMT


see kitty
on Tuesday
the day in which
the shortest distance
between any two points
always takes him
between Neal and his monitor
see kitty bite Neal
on the ankle
and the wrist
and try for 
the face
see Neal get really tired
of these antics
see Neal grab kitty
stick him on the floor
*MEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!*
and drag him down the hall
*CRACKLE*
towards the door 
*SQUIRM*
then back to his desk
see kitty build up
quite a static charge
and make friends with
hundreds of little
dust bunnies
and have to spend
two hours
cleaning himself
thereby leaving Neal
free to work
shiny, shiny, shiny kitty


p.s.
see kitty
not quite clean
after his electrostatic experiment
see Neal
thinking its about time 
to give kitty a bath :-) :-) :-)
--
  Neal i1neal@exnet.iastate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Subject: Re: Parrots and Cats
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:54:15 GMT

In article <45358@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> qhwpyd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Cynthia Goff) writes:
>
>    Most definitely the parrot can hurt the cats however the cats pose a much 
>much, more dangerous threat to the bird.  Due to the bacteria that exists in
>cat saliva and under their claws cats can be deadly to birds.  Even a large
>bird will die within hours if treatment is not started immediately.  A lady
>I know had a cockatiel who was attacked by a cat and the tissue of the bird's
>neck was lacerated 3/4 of the way around the spine.  The bird was treated with
>in a half-hour of the incident and the bird pulled through.

When I moved home from college for a couple monthes to get myself back on
my feet, and had a new friend that joined me, Quinn.  My mom had a cockatiel,
Sassybird, that was 10 years old and a very dear family friend.  One afternoon
when I was at work and my mom was on the back porch, Quinn managed to escape 
from my bedroom and terrorize Sassybird.  My mom heard the bird screaming and 
ran inside.  Aside from the fact that Sassybird lost a few feathers, he seemed
undamaged and healthy (no scratches or bleeding).  Two days later, the bird 
went into some sort of shock.  We took him to the vet, where he was fed 
antibiotics.  The vet found a small puncture wound in Sassy's chest.  Well
anyway, Sassy appeared to get better until the next morning.  She could
hardly stand on her perch.  I had a hard time going to work that day, because
I was crying so hard!  :-(  When I returned home from work that evening
I knew there was no hope for Sassybird.  I drove to the Vet (the best aviary
vet in Colorado) and gave the bird to him and paid the fee to have her
put to sleep.  The vet stayed until 8:00 pm that evening trying to save her
but it was no use.  I went down to get Sassy and we buried her the next day.
To this day, I still get all choked up!  I felt terrible.  

I tried hard to punish Quinn by ignoring her for the next few days but I
just couldn't do it.  I knew that she was just following her natural instincts 
and being a hunter so I could not stay mad.  Needless to say, I bought
my mom a new bird "Skipper" and all is well.

The moral of this story, is that cats are very dangerous to birds.  A little
puncture wound that goes unnoticed can be the death of your bird.  The cat
needs to be taught _immediately_ to keep away from the bird.  Until the cat
learns to behave around the bird, they need to be kept separate when
unsupervised.  The cat can learn to leave the bird alone.  My mom's cat
never touched a feather on either of her birds!

Thats all folks!

-Cindy
-- 
 snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com [aka Cindy Newell - Usual disclaimers apply]

  The only sure sign that there is intelligent life out there is 
  that it hasn't tried to contact us.			-Calvin & Hobbes
From: dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: HELP! My cat cries too much.
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:56:09 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station


My cat, Katie, is an 11 month old spayed calico, who is usually pleasant
to be around - gentle with her claws, doesn't bite, doesn't destroy
household furnishings, etc.

HOWEVER, she likes to cry, and I can't for the life of me figure out why
or how to stop this behavior.  She frequently does it in the morning
(food is in her dish), but there's no other pattern as to the time
of day she does it.  It's usually kind of a whine (not the loud
demanding howl), but it's extremely annoying.  It's not her 'friendly'
voice either.

I have tried loud noises, spray bottles, and confinement, but nothing
seems to work.

Can *anyone* help me with this problem?

Daryl
-- 
Daryl Biberdorf  N5GJM    dlb5404@rigel.tamu.edu  or  dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu
     Seen on a bumper sticker: "My kid beat up your honor student."
From: tomm@voodoo.boeing.com (Tom Mackey)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Bathing Cats (by accident) (and now, on purpose)
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:26:16 GMT
Organization: Boeing Graphics project, Bellevue WA

In article <1992Mar27.165710.16183@news.mentorg.com> kwilkman@roguecom (Kathleen Wilkman) writes:
>Gee Carol, you got off easy.  Many years ago Chiang (RIP) my Siamese
>slipped into the tub with me in much the same way Penny did.  
>BIG DIFFERENCE - Siamese think they will die if their fur gets wet!
>He panicked.  The only thing it that tub he could get traction on
>was me. :o
--
>kwilkman@mentorg.com		   	   Mentor Graphics Corporation

My daughter has a Siamese which has been bathed regularly since she was
a 9 week old kitten.  She accepts the routine pretty well.  It also seems
to help me, as I am quite allergic to cat dander.  This cat is also quite
friendly with Grandma's poodle/terrier mix.

-- 
Tom Mackey       (206) 865-6575        tomm@voodoo.boeing.com
Boeing Computer Services         ....uunet!bcstec!voodoo!tomm
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