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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Friday, 16 Oct 1992 08:05:51 MST
From: <AOAFF@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Stereoclic Viewer and views

Looking for information on a "stereoclic" viewer and accompanying stereo
cards. The cards are rectangular with eight pairs of viewmaster-size
slides on each card. The printing on the cards is in French and says:
"Une fenetre qui s'ouore sur le monde! Stereocarte Bruguiere Paris."
Slides are of Paris and cathedrals. The viewer is plastic and has
an arm on each side for moving up or down through card, and it even has
a focusing knob.

I would like to know how old they might be and what kind of stereo camera
was/can be used to produce them. I only have about eight cards; were a
large number of cards on different subjects produced? Thanks for any
information. Allen

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* ASU disagrees *
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: Felipe@CMSA (Felipe Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Shift Report HMF 10-14-92 6-11pm
Followup-To: alt.3d
Date: 15 Oct 1992 06:00:23 GMT
Organization: sstaff
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: whe1mac11.berkeley.edu

Well it was my first night on the job and all seemed to go well.  My goal
for the next week or so is to familiarize myself with my new Unix account
(I'm	currently on CMS) and the other supported programs.  My strengths are
Macs and my weaknesses are everything else, but I will learn quickly so try
to put up	with me as I pick you brain with a lot of lame question.  At
times I revert back to my kindergarten days with the wealth of knowledge to
be learned.

Today I assisted on client who was using MacWrite II from a diskette and
had a problem with the characters appearing slowly as he typed. I had him
tranfer his	file to the desktop and work from there.  It seemed to work!  I
also helped a couple of clients with page numbering (this seems to be the
big problem of the	evening). One other client needed a disk formatted on
DOS so I helped him out since I needed the practice.		

Here are my numbers for the evening.	

6pm - 15 Macs, 1 IBM
7pm - 17 Macs, 2 IBM
8pm - 13 Macs, 1 IBM
9pm - 11 Macs, 1 IBM
10pm- 12 Macs, 1 IBM

Too many questions as of yet to include in this mail, but I will be sure
and hit you up with them when I work with you, thanks!
From: "rafael ramirez" <rafael.ramirez@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: i-max omnimax 3d
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:51:46 EST
Reply-To: "rafael ramirez" <rafael.ramirez@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

>I don't know about Tokyo, but Fujitsu and Imax co-produced "Echoes of
>the Sun which was shown at the Expo '90 Fujitsu Pavilion in Osaka.

And in the actual EXPO'90, in Seville.

>The film used the "Imax Solido" technology, which uses
>infrared-controlled LCD-shutter glasses and a dome-shaped screen, and
>it was mostly computer graphics.

That's right.

>I think I recently read that there are only about five 3-D Imax
>theaters in the world.  Other Imax 3-D films include "We Are Born Of
>Stars" (also computer graphic)  and "The Last Water Buffalo."

I've seen an anaglyphic version of Echoes of the Sun-alike in flat Imax
at the Smithonian also.

>I read about a 3-d movie about flying over Chicago and another about
>going inside the body (computer graphics and such).

I've read about a synthetic one flying over Paris.  Big format, but not
sure if in Stereo.  Anybody cares to list known movies available in 3-D?
I have a laserdisc of the movie the Mask (most of the movie plain B/W,
the "good" scenes in anaglyphic b/w stereo) and a 10-minutes section of
a x-rated video, the playboy-video look alike Electric Blue number 9, I
think, this one a full-color anaglypho.  I guess that Nightmare on Elm
Street part 6 must also be out in video with the last minutes in color
stereo (anaglyphic again).

Those few fortunates with two console-controled editing VCR's and two
LCD projectors and a metallic screen would really killed for a double
cassette transfer of each view of all the 3-D features filmed, wouldn't
you?

 * SLMR 2.1a * Rafael.Ramirez@channel1.com from SPAIN! (A.K.A. RRC)
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA

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From: hunter@werple.apana.org.au (James Gardiner)
Newsgroups: alt.3d,comp.graphics.animation
Subject: Re: Recommendations for 3d station?
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:42:05 GMT
Organization: werple public-access UNIX, Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: werple.apana.org.au

skravis@garnet.csis.dit.csiro.au (Simon Kravis) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.151933.15315@INRS-Telecom.UQuebec.CA> lebaron@INRS-Telecom.UQuebec.CA (Gregory LeBaron) writes:


>   One of the professors here wants to get into 3d viewing stuff. His
>   requirements are not well defined yet but 120Hz refresh rate and 24
>   bit colour seem to be important to him. 
>   INRS Telecommunications, 16 Place du Commerce, Verdun, Quebec, Canada, H3E 1H6

>It's a special hardware box plus monitor and remote controlled glasses
>that works from the RGB output. The pre-stereo image is formatted to
>have one eye image on the top of the screen and the other at the
>bottom, and the hardware box stretches each eye image to full screen
>height and displays them alternately, so the interface is totally in hardware.

>This system looks as though it loses out in vertical resolution
>through squeezing the left and right eye images, but does give 120
>frames/sec. We haven't yet bought one so I'd be interested to hear
>from an established user.

>Prices are reasonable - special monitor + hardware box + glasses for about $7000.

From what I know of the SGI stuff.  If you get a Indigo XS24withZbuffer
No a cheap machine but, with the sterio ready monitor and lcd
3D glasses you can see full screen res 3d images.  The screen must
have a 120 refresh as the glasses flash and give each eye the seperate
image at 60MHz.   This 120MHz image speed mentioned above I find hard
to beleive.  You need the high end graphics to do double buffered
24bit images.

SGI should be able to do the job best but probably not cheaply.



James
From: u882405@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (Paul J. Watson)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Practical uses for multi-viewpoint scene analysis  ?
Summary: Request for information about multi-viewpoint scene analysis
Keywords: multi-viewpoint image-analysis scene-analysis
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:21:30 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.

Greetings,
          I am looking for information and references which relate to the
practical uses of multi-viewpoint image analysis for object detection, 
as part of an essay which I have to complete for my Honors course.

Some of the possible uses for this method of scene analysis are : 
 o  automated mapping for surveying, from multiple aerial photographs,
      as suggested in a recent issue of National Geographic which described
      the mapping of Mt Everest,
 o  medical image analysis, from CAT/NMR/Sonar/X-ray,
 o  robotic vision, where the images are obtained from multiple TV cameras
      (or other 2D image sensors ??),
 o  3D object encoding for use with 3D morphing, 
 o  Scene reconstruction from moving viewpoint video,

ANY practical (or theoretical) reference/experiences you could provide would be 
*greatly* appreciated. Please e-mail me replies to save bandwidth.

I will post a summary (and the essay itself) if there is enough interest.

Many thanks,

Paul J. Watson.
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Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: wilsont@rahul.net (Timothy Wilson)
Subject: To an Andrew that left me mail about the PD turboC lib for ST
Organization: a2i network
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:58:05 GMT


I'm sorry, but I lost your message completely,  i only read it once.
the Turbo C BGI libraries for the Atari ST are located on 
atari.archive.umich.edu
usually called: graphx11.zoo i think.


if you don't have ftp acces, i can send them to you via mail.
 
-- 
Timothy Wilson <wilsont@rahul.net>
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: watters@darwin.genetics.washington.edu (Mike Watters)
Subject: Re: Stereoclic Viewer and views
Organization: University of Washington   
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:02:52 GMT

Sounds like a French version of the American "Tru-Vue" cards.  The only
Tru-Vue cards I've seen were all either cartoons or religous (Yawn!).  I
very much doubt they used a special camera to take the pictures.  Probably
worked like ViewMaster (VM DIDN'T use the VM camera for their comercial reels).
My guess is that they used one of the conventional stereo cameras (Assuming
they used a European camera), either a Belplasca (E German) or Verascope
(french) and duped the slides onto the smaller format.  This is basically
the same thing the folks at VM were doing.  For the comercial reels, this
would have kept the quality higher.

mike

--
Mike
watters@genetics.washington.edu
Dept of Genetics, Univ of Washington  Seattle
(d) 206-543-1934   (e) 206-361-1156 
Newsgroups: alt.3d,comp.graphics.animation
From: xiang@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: Which 3D Mac animation is superior?
Reply-To: xiang@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:11:24 GMT

I always liked strata 3d

Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: philb@cats.ucsc.edu (Philip Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.3d,comp.graphics.animation
Subject: Re: Recommendations for 3d station?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 19:32:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: as215-ws-5.ucsc.edu


lebaron@INRS-Telecom.UQuebec.CA (Gregory LeBaron) writes:

>We're running a network of DEC and Suns and would like something that
>fit in seamlessly. 

>I've heard a lots of talk about Amiga and SGI but not much about 3rd
>party addons to Sparc 10, for example.

>Anyone have any suggestions? ($10K < Budget < $50K)

Both DEC and SUN have some really killer video boards out now.
Go find a sun rep and talk to them.

1-800-USA4SUN ?
I know it's got USA and SUN in there somewheres.. :)

-- 
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P.Anthony, "The Colo(u)r of her panties"      |philb@soda.berkeley.edu
From: 15@unpcs1.cs.unp.ac.za (compmark)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: Stereo Slide Projector
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:29:34 GMT
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, UNP
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc021.cc.unp.ac.za

In article <92275.123903XID@psuvm.psu.edu> <XID@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:39:03 EDT
>From: <XID@psuvm.psu.edu>
>Subject: Re: Stereo Slide Projector


>Still can't email successfully to nemo@fenton or any variations I try
>on that address at cso.uiuc.edu, so here's my followup to my followup:

>The book by Ferwerda is the biggest of the three and has a long discussion
>about projection, and uses a few actual projectors to illustrate points,
>but does not mention the TDC Vivid.

>Reel-3D's 1990 catalog lists Xerox copies of the TDC Vivid 116 3-D Projector
>Manual and TDC Vivid 716 Deluxe 3-D Projector manual, $3.00 each plus shipping.

>They also have bound editions of their old newsletter; the 1980 set includes
>"special 3-D projectors issue."  I know nothing more about these.  1980 set was
>$15.95 plus shipping for the 132 p volume.

>Best wishes!

>Dave Glick   xid@psuvm.psu.edu    Penn State
From: madelain@rhea.inria.fr (Eric Madelaine)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: X3D 2.2 colors missing
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:06:30 GMT
Organization: INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis (Fr)


-- 

I just got X3D from castlab.engr.wisc.edu,
compiled it on my sparc, that has a color display and run X11R4,

But I get no colors when I display your examples, whatever mode
changes I tried...
What did I miss?

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INRIA Sophia-Antipolis        fax: 33-93657766
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From: lebaron@INRS-Telecom.UQuebec.CA (Gregory LeBaron)
Subject: Recommendations for 3d station?
Organization: INRS Telecommunications
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:19:33 GMT

One of the professors here wants to get into 3d viewing stuff. His
requirements are not well defined yet but 120Hz refresh rate and 24
bit colour seem to be important to him. 

All the images will be precomputed - not generated on the fly - so 
another issue is memory to screen bandwidth. Graphics rendering
in hardware is not an issue.

We've had an SGI rep in but he doesn't seem to be very well informed 
about his product line. (Actually my grandmother has a better grasp
of the technology). 

We're running a network of DEC and Suns and would like something that
fit in seamlessly. 

I've heard a lots of talk about Amiga and SGI but not much about 3rd
party addons to Sparc 10, for example.

Anyone have any suggestions? ($10K < Budget < $50K)


-- 
Gregory LeBaron   lebaron@inrs-telecom.uquebec.ca    (514) 765-7835
INRS Telecommunications, 16 Place du Commerce, Verdun, Quebec, Canada, H3E 1H6
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: montefus@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Diego Montefusco)
Subject: Re: steregram "drugs"?
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:15:02 GMT

yury@bknight.jpr.com (Yury German) writes:


>	Well I remember reading in Computer Graphics World or somewherer
>like that that there was something like that available now. I think it was
>using High definitions lasers to display the images write on the cornea
>(eye). If I understand correctly the images were about 5 times as high in
>resolution as a regular display.

Maybe you are talking about the Retinal Virtual Display, under development 
at Human Interface Tech Lab, U of Washington. Last time I asked it delivered
red and black monoscopic images at TV resolution. The whole apparatus is 
60-80 cm long. Three years project is to bring it down in size to make it
WEARABLE like sunglasses, full color, hi-res (more than 2000x2000), stereoscopic

Diego Montefusco 

-- 


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Diego Montefusco	Dipartimento di Scienze dell' Informazione
From: taudas@ais.org (Tony Audas)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: DKB/POV -list ?
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:40:36 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: UMCC

here's the addr i have for the dkb-list:
dkb-l%trearn.bitnet@uga.cc.uga.edu
and for the listserv:
listserv%trearn.bitnet@uga.cc.uga.edu
i haven't gotten anything from this server in a while, i hope this is still
the correct address.
From: cmp0145@sys.uea.ac.uk (R. Hughes)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Help on 3d terrain mapping
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:12:32 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

Hi my name is Rob,
                  I am currently doing my third year computing project
on 3D terrain mapping and would be very grateful if somebody could give me
references to articles or scientific papers on this subject.
                      Thanks in advance
                            Rob Hughes
                      
            EMAIL ADDRESS cmp0145@uk.ac.uea.sys
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: aida@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Subject: hi
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 06:20:32 GMT


hi


Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: nedelman@spacm1.spac.spc.com
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: Re: POV source anyone?
Date: 15 Oct 92 10:04:41 PDT
Organization: Bank America Systems Engineering, Pasadena, CA

In article <1992Oct14.231033.17163@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tfoss@nyx.cs.du.edu (ted foss) writes:
> 
> 
> ANyone know where I can get the source for POV?  I want to compile it on
> our vax here, but the source archive on alfred doesn't have some of the
> needed files (machine.zip...)  or actually, if anyone's got a vax compiled
> version, please let me know...thanks...
> -Ted 
>  Tfoss@center.colgate.edu 
> "If god had meant us to be nude, we would've been born without clothes"
> 

I am hoping to post to VMSNET.SOURCES a VMS version next week.  This will 
include the sources, objects, exacutable, scences, etc.

Note:  This will be an OFFICIALLY supported archive.
-- 
Dean (The Shadow)
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Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: pjordan@rp.CSIRO.AU (Patrick Jordan)
Subject: Re: test
Keywords: test
Organization: CSIRO Division of Radiophysics, NSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:57:28 GMT

In article <marrou.718388522@eola.cs.ucf.edu>, marrou@cs.ucf.edu (Lance R. Marrou) writes:
> mdr@csg.cs.reading.ac.uk (Doc Chaos) writes:
> 
> >arnold@cowan.edu.au (A.DELAVIGNE) writes:
> 
> >>Hi. Did this work?????
> 
> >Mebbe the name of this group should be changed so that it doesn't
> >appear as the first group when newbies try news for the first time.
> >Then twats like the above (and plenty others) will post their tests
> >in alt.activism instead.
> >--
> >I really like the jacket but the sleeves are much too long. - Lemmy
> 
> I agree.  Perhaps alt.three-d.
> --
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Lance R. Marrou
>    Work   - Marrou@IST.UCF.edu
>    School - Marrou@Eola.cs.UCF.edu

No, much simpler would be to create a new group before this one, say 
"alt.1test" or "alt.2.2.2" (like the roadies say). Is there anyone there
experienced at making new groups.....

-- 

Be seeing you!

Patrick.

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From: cullhane@medusa.itc.gu.edu.au (Cullhane Gibbs)
Newsgroups: alt.3d
Subject: 3d demos
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:11:10 GMT
Reply-To: cullhane@medusa.UUCP (Cullhane Gibbs)
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia

Can anyone direct me to an ftp site with some cool 3d demos - filled vector
stuff, etc.

		thanx,

			Cully
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein)
Subject: Re: WAX OR THE DISCOVERY OF TV AMONG THE BEES: playdates
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:15:25 GMT

In article <1ltz6a@rpi.edu>, artist1@rdrc.rpi.edu (Artist # 1) writes:
|> 
|> ===========================================================
|> "WAX or the discovery of television among the bees" (85:00) 
|> ===========================================================

This also received good reviews in the August 21 New York Times (p.C-10),
and in the August 21 issue of Newsday (p.75 or 81, depending on which
edition you've got).

Newsgroups: alt.3d,comp.graphics.animation
From: jleduc@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (JonPaul Leduc)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for 3d station?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:48:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.151933.15315@INRS-Telecom.UQuebec.CA> lebaron@INRS-Telecom.UQuebec.CA (Gregory LeBaron) writes:
>One of the professors here wants to get into 3d viewing stuff. His
>requirements are not well defined yet but 120Hz refresh rate and 24
>bit colour seem to be important to him. 
>
>We've had an SGI rep in but he doesn't seem to be very well informed 
>about his product line. (Actually my grandmother has a better grasp
>of the technology). 
>We're running a network of DEC and Suns and would like something that
>fit in seamlessly. 
>
>Gregory LeBaron   lebaron@inrs-telecom.uquebec.ca    (514) 765-7835
>INRS Telecommunications, 16 Place du Commerce, Verdun, Quebec, Canada, H3E 1H6

I am surprised that SGI had such a bad representative there.  But we are
working with about the same environment (well Suns and RS-6000) and find
the capabilities of our Personal Iris (thats a model) to be an overkill for
that kind of use.  I think the real issue would be software.  Are you using
JPEG graphics, PPM format, NCSA image or what.  I have found the limitation
to be the format you have the stereo pairs in. (AND the refresh rate is 120
Hz)  Depending on the source of the images, a Raster-Ops board on a Mac can
sometimes outperform more powerful workstations if all you need is display.

Depending on exact use, we have found different machines to be better.

--Jean-Paul Leduc
--Northwestern University


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From: tojek@cae.wisc.edu (Joseph P. Tojek)
Newsgroups: alt.3d,comp.graphics.animation
Subject: Which 3D Mac animation is superior?
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:55:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Oct8.215531.20645
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering


I'm trying to decide what 3D package to buy for the Mac.
Requirements: 	Good modeling, rendering, and animation as well as
		Quicktime output.  Price range near $500 US (educational)

		Primary use for output to the Mac screen for interactive
		presentations.
	
I've narrowed it down to three, Strata 3D, Infini-D, or SwivelMan.
I would like to know if you think one of these or another would
be the best for my purposes.

Please email to tojek@cae.wisc.edu, I will summarize.
Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: sphillip01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Virtual Reality definition requ.d ...
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:57:51 GMT

Anyone have a good, quick definition of what Virtual Reality is ? Yes, I do 
know what it is ... I'm doing an assignment, & to make it sound good I need a 
clear definition any half wit can understand (Yes, one of THOSE lecturers).
Succinct (??) & to the point ... Preferrably within the next few hours, the 
sooner the better. Thanks in advance ...

Trevor Phillips

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Newsgroups: alt.3d
From: tfoss@nyx.cs.du.edu (ted foss)
Subject: POV source anyone?
Summary: request for pov
Keywords: POV 
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:10:33 GMT



ANyone know where I can get the source for POV?  I want to compile it on
our vax here, but the source archive on alfred doesn't have some of the
needed files (machine.zip...)  or actually, if anyone's got a vax compiled
version, please let me know...thanks...
-Ted 
 Tfoss@center.colgate.edu 
"If god had meant us to be nude, we would've been born without clothes"

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