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From: iccsap020@spacm1.spac.spc.com (David Cohen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: ?Cause of error message under $SUBMIT
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:33:54 PDT
Organization: Security Pacific Automation Co., LA, CA

In article <1992Aug28.130419.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, welchb@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
> Here is the error message I often get from a simple .com file
> when it is $SUBMITted: 
> 	Error opening primary file SYS$INPUT
> 	File not found
> I have tried quite a variety of submissions, such as changing what the
> job does (usually a one-liner like "$show que "), whether the owner is
> the submittor, whether a log file is created, where it is created, postponing
> the execution time.  Some work ok; some do not.  The error is
> occurring as the very first thing, before the system's sylogin.com, and
> obviously before my own login.com.   I am embarassed that I cannot detect
> what the essential cause of the error is, out of all the possible factors.
> Could it have something to do with que manager problems under V5.5-1?
> -- 
> Brendan Welch, UMass/Lowell, W1LPG,  welchb@woods.ulowell.edu

This will happen in the following scenario:
1. You submit a job with a postponed execution time.
2. Before the job executes, you edit the com file.
3. You purge the com file, or delete the version that existed when you
   submitted the job.
4. When the submit command executes, it will look for the original com  
   file.  Since that com file will be gone, you will get the error
   that you are seeing. 

I believe the submit utility uses the file-id to locate the com file;
or perhaps it keeps track of the version number.  At any rate, if
you edit the com file, you need to re-submit the job, and cancel
the original submission.

Hope this helps. 

David Cohen
From: tillman@swdev.si.com ("Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: ramdisk-Installation-problems
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:07:14 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Eberhard Heuser-Hofmann writes:

>My problem now is to implement this into the system-startup-procedure. 
>Especially I want to know at which point sys$sysroot is defined and all the 
>system images are installed.

SYS$SYSROOT is defined in SYS$STARTUP:VMS$INITIAL-050_VMS.COM, which means you 
can use it just about as soon as you want.  Images in SYS$MANAGER:VMSIMSAGES.DAT 
are installed in that same procedure.  So, everything you want is installed in 
phase INITIAL.

Personally, I would mount your RAM disk in SYSTARTUP_V5.COM, or wherever you 
mount you regular disks and copy the hot files in a SYSMAN-initiated job (either 
batch or immediate).

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From: eikenber@tron.bwi.wec.com (Daniel E. Eikenberry Jr.)
Subject: Re: Printing 132 columns text files on LPS20
Organization: Westinghouse Electric Corporation, Baltimore MD.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:53:13 GMT

In article <25AUG92.15063659@meena.cc.uregina.ca> mahendra@meena.cc.uregina.ca writes:
>   Can this be done? The Business Office here has lots of print files
>   that are 132 columns wide. They would like to print these on a4 size


no problem!

print/para=(page_or=landscape) filename.ext



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From: sgururaj@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sanjay R Gururaj)
Subject: Message Queueing
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:16:53 GMT

	Here's the scenario:
		Process A on Node X sends messages via DecNet to process B
		on Node Y. The messages are stored on disk using the ACMS
		queueing facility. Process C on Node Y then reads these 
		messages and deletes them when they are successfully 
		processed. The problem is that the ACMS queueing facility is 
		using a lot of disk space because it keeps extending every 
		time a message is added to the queue and there is no way of 
		recovering the deleted message space without stopping the 
		processes involved.
		
		Does anyone know of any other product or alternatives to 
		overcome the above problem?

		Thanks in advance.

		Sanjay Gururaj (gururaj.2@osu.edu)

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From: gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman)
Subject: Re: Anybody have UCX 2.0 yet?
Keywords: UCX, DEC TCP/IP for VMS, SMTP
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:28:29 GMT

klein@saturn.glassboro.edu writes:

>In article <gurman.715535854@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov> gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman) writes:
>>    Does anybody have the savesets yet who's willing to put them on an
>>anonymous ftp site? I'd really like to have people be able to send mail
>>to me over the Internet without routing it through the Ultrix
>>machine....

>Wouldn't that be a bit illegal? 

    I don't know, would it? My NAS-250 license gives me the right to run
UCX (and most DEC s/w won't run without a license, of course), and my
less-than-one-year-old VS4000 came with a right-to-copy updates software
warranty. Is my right to copy limited to software from my own site?

    Actually, UCX is a special case, since there are some parts of it that
can be installed and run without a license. 

    All of which reminds me, in light of the "Will LMF kill Alpha"
thread that hung around for a while, that DEC's "Ultrix to DEC OSF/1
Migration Guide" (available as a PostScript file via anonymous ftp from
gatekeeper.dec.com) says "The DEC OSF/1 system does not support the
License Management Facility (LMF) software." Wow, could this be the way
to the future for OpenVMS? NOT, I guess.

						Joe Gurman
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From: hasan%avax.dnet@UNIVAX.FHDA.EDU (HASAN%AVAX.DNET@UNIVAX.FHDA.EDU)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Use of Symbols with SQL
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:27:33 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


        Hello,

		Is there a way, that I can translate symbols set via
		DCL, into SQL insert statements?

		The code shown below, does not work.  SQL is not
		translating the symbols A, B or C to their values.

		I am just curious, if there is any other way to use
		symbol definitions in SQL?
	
==========================================================================
	$	A = "AAAVAX.XXYY"
	$	B = "999.99.99.99"
	$	C = "8650"
	!
	SQL
	!
	DECLARE SCHEMA FILENAME INTERNET_INFO;
	!
	INSERT INTO NODE_INFO (NAME, ADDRESS, HWARE)
       	 	VALUES ("''A'", "''B'", "''C'"); 
        |
	COMMIT;
==========================================================================

Any help or suggestions, will be greatly appreciated.



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From: SKAPUR@CCMAIL.SUNYSB.EDU (Sanjay Kapur)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Submitting jobs for Last Day of Month
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:51:34 GMT
Reply-To: Sanjay Kapur <skapur@ccmail.sunysb.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook

>I am wondering if anyone has a nifty way to have jobs submit themselves for the
>last day of the month.  Thank-you.
>
>Jane MacDonald (jmacdonald@mta.ca)

I am pretty sure you will get a lot of responses to this question.

A simple method is to use the following DCL procedure:

$! find the 28th day of this month
$ day28 = "28"+f$extract(2,9,f$cvtime(,"absolute"))
$! add sufficient time to go to the next month for any month
$ night28 = f$cvtime(day28+"+23:59","absolute")
$ night29 = f$cvtime(night28+"+23:59","absolute")
$ night30 = f$cvtime(night29+"+23:59","absolute")
$ night31 = f$cvtime(night30+"+23:59","absolute")
$ night1 = f$cvtime(night31+"+23:59","absolute")
$! compute first day of next month
$ day1 = "1"+f$extract(1,9,night1)
$! go back one day to the last day of the current month
$ lastday = f$cvtime(day1+"-23:59:59.99","absolute")
$ write sys$output lastday

 
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From: dragon@NSCVAX.PRINCETON.EDU (Mighty Firebreather)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Bug Fix Info - Where do I find it?
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:14:25 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	Aliza R. Panitz <buglady@silver.lcs.mit.edu> writes:
>
>Looking through the release notes for our next upgrade,
>I notice a number of references to "maintenance release,
>incorporating all bug fixes only."  (This is VMS 5.5,
>FORTRAN 5.7, and CDD 4.3 I'm dealing with here.)
>
>We've been bitten before by small "bug fixes" in VMS upgrades
>that had disastrous effects.  Where does one find a list of
>bug fixes incorporated in a release?
>

	At least in the case of Fortran, this is traditionally a part of 
the release notes.  In 5.5 it was called "Summary of Maintenance Changes".
This is the first place I would look for this information.

	It has been my experience that the bug fixes are seldom dangerous.  
It is the enhancements that don't work that are the killers: witness VMS 
BACKUP in V5.2 et. seq., LATMASTER in V5.4-1 et. seq. and the new queue 
manager in 5.5.


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From: lane@bot000.enet.dec.com (Mickey)
Subject: Re: VMS A5.5 ???? (Not V5.5!)
Reply-To: lane@bot000.enet.dec.com (Mickey)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:11:19 GMT


>Has anyone seen anything like this:
>
>$ show system
>VAX/VMS A5.5  on node ORBSEN  28-AUG-1992 14:00:26.42   Uptime  0 04:31:11

>Is this some special version of VMS?  The machine was recently upgraded and 
>suddenly the V becomes an A!!  We have another machine here running 5.5 and 

Ummm, did we forget to read the release notes?  A -> old queue system,
V -> new queue system.
From: Ian.Parker@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Ian Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Looking for menu softwar
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:29:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet


 On 08-21-92 Lori Gavin wrote to All... 
 
 LG> I'm looking for some general purpose menuing software.  Public  
 LG> domain or commercial is OK.  Any information or suggestions would be 
 LG> appreciated. 
 LG>  
 
Lori 
 
I wrote a command procedure and program that implement a menuing system  
for VT200+ terminals. I got fed up writing menus from scratch each time.   
I guess many people have done the same thing.  I've installed these at a  
number of sites, just to make life easier for me. 
 
How does it work?  A command procedure, MENU.COM, is run with the name of 
menu description file, .MENU, as parameter.  The COM reads the description  
file and formats the appropriate menu with numbered options, prompts for an 
option, validates it and issues the corresponding command as described in 
the description file.  Since the command executed can be another MENU  
command, you can have hierarchical menus.  The description file is a text 
file containing a menu title and one line for each option.  An option is 
specified by a title to be displayed, a DCL statement to be executed, an 
optional conditional expression to determine whether the option should be 
displayed on the menu.  since this is a text file, you can add/modify/ 
remove options easily (even creating menus on the fly). 
 
The menu procedure uses a (minute) macro program to enhance its error 
handling. 
 
Why did I write it in DCL?  Minimal overhead - no process spawing.  And it's 
small. 
 
If this is the sort of thing you are looking for, let me know and I'll send  
you a copy. 
 
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From: dongray@cdclu1.genrad.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Submitting Jobs for Last Day of Month
Date: 28 Aug 92 07:35:51 GMT
Organization: The Internet

OK, here's my offering for this month's obscure DCL tricks. :-)

This should all be on one line...

  $  submit file.com /after="''f$cvtime(f$fao("1-!AS-!SL-1-0:0:0",
  f$extr(f$cvtime(,,"month")*3,3,"XXXFEBMARAPRMAYJUNJULAUGSEPOCTNOVDECJAN"),
  f$cvtime(,,"year")+f$cvtime(,,"month")/12),"absolute")'"

I leave it as an exercise for the reader to make a more practical solution :-)
...and avoid the pathological case. (Try running it at 31-JUL-1992 23:59:59.99).

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From: huber@vxcrna.cern.ch (Sepp Huber, CERN -4439,-6712)
Subject: Re: What causes this DECNet OPCOM message?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 10:25:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.195743.5331@cs.tulane.edu>, Jeff E Mandel <mandel@tmc.tulane.edu> writes...
>I have been getting a lot of messages to my operator console lately of
>the form:
> 
>DECnet event 0.7, aborted service request
>From node 1.210 (ANESTH), 31-AUG-1992 15:50:28.54
>Circuit QNA-0, Line open error, File open error, Tertiary loader
>%MOM-E-OPENIN, error opening SYS$COMMON:[MOM$SYSTEM]ISL_LVAX_K.SYS; as
>input
>-RMS-E-FNF, file not found
> 
>followed by an Ethernet address.  Over the last two months, there have
>been 179 entries from 14 different Ethernet addresses, which I suspect
>are all terminal servers. I have politely suggested to the folks who own
>the multiple terminal servers for the hospital that they check their
>configuration, but unless I can clearly explain to them what is going on,
>they don't want to be bothered. Other than increasing the size of my
>logs, it doesn't seem to be affecting me. Should I worry about this? If I
>create an empty file SYS$COMMON:[MOM$SYSTEM]ISL_LVAX_K.SYS, will it bring
>the servers to their knees?
> 
There is nothing the server owners can do for You: Ethernet/MOP load terminal-
servers, when they boot, send a MOP protocol multicast message on the Ethernet,
simple asking "Somebody on the net please send me xxxx.sys".
Each system, which has service enabled on the Ethernet circuit, will then
start to lookup the file in the MOM$LOAD directory, and send the file,if found, 
generating the message in question, if not. If the file is provided by some 
other system, the server will boot.
Seemingly on Your site, You don't have the files, but have line service 
enabled.
What You can do to avoid the messages:
(1) If You don't expect a system to boot from Yours at all, simple disable 
    line service (NCP SET/DEF CICUIT xx SERVICE DISABLE)
(2) If Your system is a boot server, switch off looging of event 0.7
    (NCP SET LOGGING MONITOR EVENT 0.7 OFF or so, don't bite me for the correct
    syntax :-)
(3) Or provide the server load files on Your system, to make all happy.

BTW, something like 2 boots per server and week is a bit frequent IMHO,
on my side I'd check my servers to find out the reason!

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From: MR_CA_CBU@osi.ohio.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: ?: DECVEC printer sequences for LN03 non-postscript lasers
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:48:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet


I don't believe this made it out - please discard if a duplicate and 
accept my apology. All flames to me at MR_CA_CBU@OHIO.GOV and not to
the list.

Thanks

Subject: ?: Use of DECVEC printer sequences for LN03

     27-Aug-1992 12:48
     We would like to make use of the DECVEC escape sequences to enhance 
     the output of our SAS procedures, and while at first glance this may 
     appear to be a SAS question, and therefore should be posted to 
     SAS-L, please consider the problem below.
     
     Our application requires us to 'merge' the form (DECVEC sequences) 
     with the SAS data, although the data could come from any source - 
     such as other database products.
     
     One feature that intrigued us about the DECVEC sequences is that 
     they don't modify the current print position; and in testing with 
     manually assembled data, this seems to be so. For this reason a 
     library of forms could be designed and 'merged' with the data and 
     printed at once on an LN03.
     
     Our questions are as follows:
     
     Specifically, I'd like to know if there are any utilities that 
     assist with the creation of the proper DECVEC sequences to draw 
     forms. I can create said sequences manually, but that gets old in a 
     hurry.
     
     Also, if there aren't any utilities, then has anyone ever seen any 
     use for these sequences? And, if not, why do you suppose they exist?
     
     The LN03 we are using is a non-postscript printer, given to us as a 
     gift (w/o manuals - I've ordered a set) and, I'm told, is just a 
     youngster at 69100 copies on the counter.
     
     If this has been answered in an earlier time, please point me to the 
     archive or if in the manuals - that's OK too. Right now,  all I've 
     got as a reference is the "Terminals & Printers Handbook" dated 
     1987.
     
     In any event, all pointers are welcome.
     
     Thanks very much for your help.
     
     Carl Underwood
     MR_CA_CBU@OHIO.GOV

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From: tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: at the risk of drawing severe flamage - q's about VMS/DCL & Unix
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:52:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

Purely for historical interest let me note that the DEC/shell product
now obsoleted by VMS POSIX included a reasonable PIPE device driver.
Of course that never made it into base VMS and DCL.  Sigh.
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Subject: Re: Submitting Jobs for Last Day of Month
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:55:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

dongray@cdclu1.genrad.com writes:
>   $  submit file.com /after="''f$cvtime(f$fao("1-!AS-!SL-1-0:0:0",
>   f$extr(f$cvtime(,,"month")*3,3,"XXXFEBMARAPRMAYJUNJULAUGSEPOCTNOVDECJAN"),
>   f$cvtime(,,"year")+f$cvtime(,,"month")/12),"absolute")'"
> 
> I leave it as an exercise for the reader to make a more practical solution :-)
> ...and avoid the pathological case. (Try running it at 31-JUL-1992 23:59:59.99).

$ submit file.com/after="1-''f$extract(2,8,f$cvtime("1-+31-","ABSOLUTE"))':0:5"

No tricks, no shortcuts, no truncated symbols, no pathological cases, and I
also remembered to allow five minutes for out-of-sync clocks across the 
cluster... 8-)

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From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Editing large files with TPU
Date: 28 Aug 92 07:52:47 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Aug26.172043.1@ptavv.llnl.gov>, oberman@ptavv.llnl.gov writes:
> In article <01GO0EHHKABK0007D3@BENTLEY.BITNET>, KPETERSO@BENTLEY.BITNET writes:
>> I am trying to EDIT/TPU (EVE) a 29553 block file and coming up
[...]
> Your file has at least one record of 2098 bytes. That blows TPU out of the
> water. There is no way to edit such a file with TPU as far as I know. SED
> should work on it, though. (No, I don't remember where to get it, either.
> (Senility!)
> 
Why, from my FILESERV, of course!  You can get my port of GNU sed via
anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu ([192.107.46.27]); you'll need:

	[.MACRO32]AAAREADME.TXT
	[.MACRO32]LZDCMP.EXE
	[.MACRO32.SAVESETS]SED.BCK_Z

Via e-mail, you can get it by sending the command SEND SED in the body
of a mail message to FILESERV@WKUVX1.BITNET.

Hunter
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From: ramsey@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Deon Ramsey [MW])
Subject: MSDOS Disks. How to read/write ?
Summary: Can a VMS machine read/write MSDOS disks ?
Keywords: MSDOS
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:01:12 GMT

I need to swap data between my Homecomputer and the VAX at work.
The VAX is a VAX Station 3100 running VMS V 5.3, and has a 3.5" Disk Drive.
I have an Amiga at home, and am capable of writing and reading MSDOS format
disks. So, can these be made to talk to another ?
Is there a public domain program out there that allows the VAX to write and
read MSDOS format disks ? If you know of such, please either mail me the
program/source, or mail me where to ftp it. Muchos Gracias.

Deon Ramsey


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