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From: bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: Funny Control Manager messages
Date: 27 Sep 92 00:09:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1992Sep27.000926.8038
Distribution: usa
Organization: Texas A&M Univ., Inc.


I've just completed my analog meter control, and for the most part, it
works fine.  However, there is some funny behavior going on.

My control implements a round analog meter with a needle to indicate
the current meter value.  The needle has 270 degrees of sweep, from
-135 (or 225) to +135 (in QuickDraw angles). 

When the user clicks on the needle, my CDEF function gets the thumbCntl
message, and I calculate the limit and slop rectangles the Ctl Mgr wants.
Then, the CDEF receives the dragCntl message, which I use to drag the
indicator.  After dragging the indicator, the CDEF returns 1.

Inside Macintosh v.I, page 331 says that the param argument to the CDEF
means drag the whole control if it is 0, or drag just the indicator
when param is not 0.

So far, all this is working OK.  Here's the weird part.
When the program that uses this control receives a mouse down event in
the control with the command key pressed, the program calls DragControl()
on the meter.  The CDEF then receives the dragCntl message again, but
param is still nonzero! (It should be zero.)  This causes it to drag the
indicator again, which is not what I wanted to do.  I wanted to be able
to move the control around.  Using this Cmd-dragging on scroll bar
controls works without a hitch.

Here are my questions:

Does anybody know what the problem is? 
Do I need to create regions for the indicator for the calcCRgn message,
  and when is that message given to my CDEF? 
If I do need to create a region for the needle, will a region containing
  a single line suffice?  (The needle is a straight line - boring.)
Since the needle rotates around, when would I need to redefine the needle
  region, after every time it moves?
Is there a better reference to writing control definitions, 
  because Inside Macintosh v. I is, at best, confusing.
Am I implementing the indicator dragging function correctly? (i.e., in
  response to the dragCntl message.)

Please, if you have written control definitions before and have any ideas
about this, please email or post.

thanks in advance,
-Brent

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com (Peter Bierman)
Subject: Re: Communication Toolbox
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:11:58 EDT

niko@iastate.edu (Nikolaus E Schuessler) writes:

> I was just considering using the communication toolbox for a project,
> but was wondering what part of the installed mac base do you exclude
> by assuming the presence of CTB facilities.. all those before
> system 6.05? 6.07? How many people are there still using systems that
> don't support CTB? Enough to justify writing two sets of code?
> Can you check at runtime if it is available? If so, how?

Well, start by looking for the Gestalt Manager. If it's not there, CTB 
isn't, becuase CTB needs 6.0.5. Then use Gestalt to check for the CTB.


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From: jdymond@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Jason Dymond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: HD defragmenter ?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 03:30:49 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I am looking for a PD/Shareware HD defragmenter for the Mac which is
System 7 friendly.  Does anyone know where I might find such.  I have
been using SUM2, and have just found that it has been trashing my HD.
 
If there is no PD.. software available, does anyone have recommendations
re: commercial software eg. DiskExpress, NUM, others ?
 
Thanks
 
Jason
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From: 8827268@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at (worm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.advocacy,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: accelerators for MAC II
Date: 4 Oct 92 02:59:01 GMT
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria

Dear netters|

I wanted to know which accelerators (type, performance, price, compatibility, e
tc.) are available for the Mac II.

Especially I heard that the radius rocket is said to be good. How fast are the
boards (25, 33 MHz or faster?)? Would it be possible to install the board by my
self?

I hope that there is somebody out there who could help me. Thanx in advance.

wolfgang rudolf mayer
8827268 at awiwuw11.bitnet   or
8827268 at awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at
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From: dkw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Wittenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Outbound Laptop Macs Any Good?
Keywords: Laptop Mac, Portable Mac
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:36:02 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University Computer Science

In article <1992Oct3.023821.7371@news.Hawaii.Edu>, deane@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Kimo Kanaka De`ane) writes:
|> 
|> a couple days. You decide.
|> 	The Outbound's screen can't get bright enough for me, and more 
|> importantly, has moderate to severe ghosting. Again, I found it annoying
|> over prolonged use. The PB170's active-matrix screen is beautiful, just 
|> like a Mac+'s. I have not used the other PB screen.
|> 
|> 	Personally, I'd save up the extra $ and get a PowerBook. 

Be aware that the Outbound uses the same screen as the Power Book 145
(and PB100 and PB140 when they were made), so the screen is an issue
only if you buy a PB170.

--David Wittenberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: Re: Suitcase II and System 7.0.1--question
Keywords: what version?
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 18:58:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.045120.13390@chpc.utexas.edu> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
>
>I have Suitcase II v. 1.2.6. It used to work fine on my old SE, running
>System 7.0, but I am having trouble getting it to do open sound files
>on my new PowerBook. I went for about half a year without a Mac, so I
>missed any news of bug releases, etc.
>
>What is the latest version of Suitcase II? How much does it cost? Can I
>download an updater from somewhere, or do I have to contact FGS? Has anyone
>else had problems with v 1.2.6?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Jay

Um, I guess I was premature. Things DIDN'T work quite as well with fonts as
I thought they were. Some fonts I opened turned out okay, but there were
conflicts with others. I guess I didn't use this version with System 7
before on my SE (although I could _swear_ I did...).

Thanks to all who emailed regarding the updater to 1.2.12, and the upgrade to
2.1. 

Jay

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*********************************
  John R. Boisseau ("Jay")       
  Department of Astronomy        
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: sleo@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Suwandi Leo)
Subject: Problem/s with WriteNow 3.0
Originator: sleo@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 16:52:26 EDT

I have WriteNow 3.0 wunning on MacII si 5/80 with the following on:
After Dark, DiskExpress II, MasterJuggler, Disk Light (all from
Alsoft Power Utilities).  My WriteNow 3.0 hung on me but when I
took out (erased) Alsoft Power Utilities, my WriteNow 3.0 runs
well again.  Anyone knows of any problems with WriteNow 3.0?

Thanks

Suwandi Leo
60 Presidential Plaza #1409
Syracuse, NY 13202

Syracuse University
Syracuse, New York

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: reynolds@nextworld.com (Rick Reynolds)
Subject: Re: Looking for paint program - Image
Organization: NeXTWORLD Magazine
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:36:31 GMT

In article <82msRB1w165w@netlink.cts.com> macdevil@netlink.cts.com (Leonard  
Cayetano) writes:
> aph@milton.u.washington.edu (Al Hallstrom) writes:
> 
> > Does anyone know if the color paint program "Image" is at an ftp site 
> > somewhere.  I know it is shareware, but I don't know where it is.  Any help
> > will be greatly appreciated.  If you don't know about this, do you know if 
> > there are any color paint programs at an ftp site.  It doesn't need to be
> > fancy, just the basic eight colors will do. 
> > 
> > Thanks. -Philip
> > 
> > aph@u.washington.edu
> > 
> 
> I thought Image was a graphics manipulation program, not a color paint
> program.  Nevertheless, it is at Umich.
>  
> Paint program.  Try this one...
>  
>  GR/COLOURPT     154     7/26/92    BinHex4.0,Stuffit3.0
>  /mac/graphics/graphicsutil/colourpaint1.0.sit.hqx
>  
>     A small paint program that has an impressive list of features
>     available. Takes advantage of system 7 capabilties. Requires
>     020 or better mac.
>  

There is also a commercial photo-retouching program called Image from a company  
called Appsoft. It runs on the NeXT computer.
From: stuart@lorelei.ece.drexel.edu (Stuart R. Harper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: MAZ 1.43
Date: 27 Sep 92 01:21:32 GMT
Reply-To: garno@cs.arizona.edu (Steven W. Garno)
Organization: Drexel U- CCD - E4 Lab

In article <22836@optima.cs.arizona.edu> garno@cs.arizona.edu (Steven W. Garno)
writes:
>
>I have a Mac IIsi with an Apple 8.24 display card.  I am trying to
>use Max Apple Zoom 1.43 but it says that it cannot be used on my system.
>I have read articles stating that MAZ does not work with the internal
>video on the IIsi, but nothing relating to an 8.24 in a IIsi.
>
>Can anyone verify this?  Is there a certain configuration that the card
>needs to have (ie 1MB memory)?
>
>       
>       Steven Garno
>
>       garno@caslon.cs.arizona.edu
>

  Steve, I'm under the impression that MAZ will not work of anything other that
the Original Appple Color High-Res Card.
From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Suitcase II and System 7.0.1--question
Keywords: what version?
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:51:20 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas System CHPC


I have Suitcase II v. 1.2.6. It used to work fine on my old SE, running
System 7.0, but I am having trouble getting it to do open sound files
on my new PowerBook. I went for about half a year without a Mac, so I
missed any news of bug releases, etc.

What is the latest version of Suitcase II? How much does it cost? Can I
download an updater from somewhere, or do I have to contact FGS? Has anyone
else had problems with v 1.2.6?

Thanks in advance,
Jay

p.s. email would be appreciated, but I will also scan this group
periodically...

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  John R. Boisseau ("Jay")       
  Department of Astronomy        
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From: jb6o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason Andrew Barshay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: CASE tools
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:29:27 GMT
Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I am interested in finding any information on CASE tools for the
Macintosh.  If you know of any products, have experience with them, have
the address of vendors, or anything else, I would appreciate the
information you could give me.  Please send your repsonses (or at least
CC) them to this account.

Thanks,
Jason
From: jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Image "greeking" in MacDraw Pro??
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:42:20 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

This may be a very dumb questions, but:
What is "Image greeking"

This is a feature that comes with MacDraw Pro 1.5, but I can't figure out what
it is, or why I would want to use it.

John Moulder (jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu)
Radiation Biology Group
Medical College of Wisconsin
From: wwalker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Games and Edu software on a Powerbook?
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:34:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.


My wife is interested in buying a Powerbook (most likely a 145), which
she'll use mostly at home (she just wants to be able to use it in whatever
room she feels like).  We don't have another Mac at home.  We have a 2 year
old daughter, and it occurs to me that soon she'll be ready to start using
games and educational programs.  Will these types of programs work OK on a
Powerbook?  Is the lack of color likely to be a problem, or is most of the
Mac software black & white anyway, since most of the existing Macs don't
support color?  Is the LCD display too slow for fast-paced games (not that
she'll be ready for those for a while)?  External displays for the
Powerbook appear to be prohibitively expensive at present (I could just
about buy my daughter an LCII for what it costs to add a color monitor to a
Powerbook).  Thanks for your help.

BTW, I previously posted this query to comp.sys.mac.games, which seemed the
appropriate place, but I got only one response there.

----------
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All opinions expressed are mine, and do not reflect those of my employer.
"First thing we do, we kill all the lawyers." - Shakespeare
From: knapp@cs.purdue.EDU (Edgar Knapp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: ? Screensaver for PowerBook ?
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:44:06 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University


I am aware of the conventional wisdom that a screensaver is
unnecessary with PowerBooks, but I am no longer sure I believe this
holds for the PowerBooks with active matrix screens (170 and higher).

Since I am connected to the department network, and run ARA and
automated backups on my PowerBook at night, it never goes to sleep by
itself.  Lately I have been noticing an imprint of the desktop image
that stays around for hours after I put the PowerBook to sleep
manually.

Neither Pyro nor DarkSide seem to have faders that are based on a
white background rather than a black one. Does AfterDark have such a
module? Am I paranoid? What do other people use?

Thanks,

Edgar

(knapp@cs.purdue.edu)
From: george@mech.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 Cross Reference (?)
Keywords: Word reference page-number
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:29:55 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Mechanical Engineering

:
:You were very close.  "Picture" needs to be selected in the Paste Special
:dialog box.


Way cool!

heres a stumper..
i have links within a document.  When i process the document via
Mail Merge the links in the output document point back to their 'original'
targets in the source document, rather than to the corresponding copies
of the targets ( which are created... ) in the output document.
I can think of a number of useful functions for links + mail merge,
but i need the links to remain within the output document...heavy sigh.




--
-george            george@mech.seas.upenn.edu  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Quinn <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Help Settle MacPlus Bet
X-Xxdate: Wed, 30 Sep 92 01: 45:33 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:02:58 GMT

In article <BvCEn9.4Fr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Pete Resnick,
resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu writes:
>peterm@dna.lth.se (Peter Moller) writes:
>
>>It's 4 MB (sorry, Linda). It has to do with the limited address-range
>>of the MC 68000.
>
>Right answer, wrong reason.
>
>The Mac Plus has only 4 SIMM slots, checking Macintosh Tech Note 176.
>Each slot can handle either 1 256K SIMM or a 1M SIMM and the SIMMs must
>be put in 2 at a time. So the only memeory configurations are 512K, 1M,
>2M, 2.5M, and 4M.
>
>The 68000 has a 24-bit address space, so it can address up to 16M of
>memory. So, if you could jam some sort of expansion board in your Mac
>Plus, you could *theoretically* use up to 16M of memory. I'm not sure,
>however, whether the operating system precludes using the additional
>memory in some way.

Right answer, better (but still not exact) reasoning.

The 68000 in the Mac+ has a 16MB address space.  However only 4MB
of that can be used for RAM.  Reason:  the top two address lines
in all the classic Macs are used to decode IO and ROM with the
minimal number of chips.  The memory map is something like this...

 0 - 4MB  RAM
 4 - 8MB  ROM (many shadows) + SCSI (SCSI was missing on 128 + 512)
 8 - 12MB SCC (4MB for a single IO chip!) + other bits
12 - 16MB IWM + VIA + other stuff

(Source:  Guide to Mac Family Hardware, 2nd ed, p124)

So while it was feasible for the Mac+ to access more RAM, the
original design of the 128 prevented it.

To bastardise a Plus to take more would be fun.  You have either
the choice of making it contiguous (and moving the ROM which is
*very* hard) or making it discontiguous which means you'd have
to slot the RAM in some of the gaps in the IO and then mangle
the Memory Manager (software) to handle discontigous RAM.  Neither
of these options are easy.

Also notice that the Portable and PB100 which are still based on
the 68000 processor but with a much different internal design can
accept up to 9MB of RAM.

Quinn "The Eskimo!"      <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>     "Support HAVOC!"
Department of Computer Science, The University of Western Australia
  -- But, of course, all this is irrelevant to the bet (-:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Subject: Re: Image "greeking" in MacDraw Pro??
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:02:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.134220.339@mis.mcw.edu> jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu writes:
>This may be a very dumb questions, but:
>What is "Image greeking"
>
>This is a feature that comes with MacDraw Pro 1.5, but I can't figure out what
>it is, or why I would want to use it.

Image greeking:  replacing a complex portion of a drawing with
something simpler like an outline or a cross-hatch.  This is done
to speed up redraws while you work on another part of the drawing.
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Re: Help Settle MacPlus Bet
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:54:41 GMT

peterm@dna.lth.se (Peter Moller) writes:

>Linda_Richards@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards) writes:

>>My boyfriend says the Mac+ is maxed out at 4 megs.
>>I say 4.5.

>It's 4 MB (sorry, Linda). It has to do with the limited address-range
>of the MC 68000, but I'm afraid that I don't know too much of the
>details.

Right answer, wrong reason.

The Mac Plus has only 4 SIMM slots, checking Macintosh Tech Note 176.
Each slot can handle either 1 256K SIMM or a 1M SIMM and the SIMMs must
be put in 2 at a time. So the only memeory configurations are 512K, 1M,
2M, 2.5M, and 4M.

The 68000 has a 24-bit address space, so it can address up to 16M of
memory. So, if you could jam some sort of expansion board in your Mac
Plus, you could *theoretically* use up to 16M of memory. I'm not sure,
however, whether the operating system precludes using the additional
memory in some way.

pr
-- 
Pete Resnick             (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu (Gerald George Marfoe)
Subject: SF-171 form software for Mac?
Keywords: SF-171 form
Reply-To: gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:23:58 GMT

Is there any software with the latest copy of the SF-171 (US Government 
employment application form)? I tried a place that last advertised in MacUser
in January, but got no response. 

I've got a partially scanned copy converted to a MacDraw II file, but it's not
an exact 1:1 scan, so I had to waste a lot of time and paper lining up the text
with the actual form earlier this year.

If you know of anyone who sells SF-171 software, let me know.

Thanks, 

Gerald Marfoe
gmarfoe@eng.auburn.edu
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From: touch@ISI.EDU (Joe Touch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: telnet & packet size
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:13:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: johnh@nnshh127.uucp's message of 6 Oct 92 14:36:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.143633.17743@bnr.ca> johnh@nnshh127.uucp (John Hawkins) writes:

 >From: johnh@nnshh127.uucp (John Hawkins)
 >Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.unix.questions
 >Date: 6 Oct 92 14:36:33 GMT
 >Organization: Northern Telecom Inc., Nashville, TN

 >Environment: macintosh using mac241 or NCSA telnet or Brown connecting to
		host HP9000/832 or HP9000/817.

 >Problem: >  One character per packet from (mac) not host via the
		wide-area-network. With ten users on the system they take up 
		~60% of capacity of WAN. > > >  

 >Question: > Is there anyway to configure either the drivers of tcp/ip
		or the telnet software itself (mac side) to only send a packet
		when a newline or tab character is input?
		This would dramatically reduce the # of packets
		and would fit the application nicely!

		The application is made to run on any 'dumb' terminal.
		Yes I've thought about client/server and distributed,
		but this would be a quick invisible solution to a
		system that is already in place.

In order to aggregate the packets, you'd need some kind of
*line-oriented* terminal, i.e., NOT a 'dumb' terminal, but an
'intelligent' one, e.g., the IBM series (the 4-digit numbered ones,
I don't remember the number, but 3870 or something like that seems
close). 

The idea is that in order to group the characters and send them out
only when a linefeed is generated, you have to have the terminal take
care of everything that happens before the linefeed. That includes
backspace erasing, and any other editing and echo. Similarly, more
complex features (such as command-line completion) are nearly
impossible, because the terminal doesn't know what the commands are.

I hope this is useful.

Joe Touch
Computer Scientist/ protocols, high-performance networks
USC/Information Sciences Institute
touch@isi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: pfluegerm@gtephx.UUCP (Mike Pflueger)
Subject: Re: Saterlite co-ordinates?
Organization: AG Communication Systems - Phoenix, AZ
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:27:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.122920.25952@newshost.anu.edu.au>, Simon Palmer <simon.palmer@anu.edu.au> writes:
> Does anyone know if their is any public lists avaliable on the internet
> of weekly updated saterlite co-ordinates?
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Simon Palmer
> ANU Graphics
> The Australian National University
> Email: simon.palmer@anu.edu.au
> Address: GPO Box 4, Canberra City 2601, Australia
> Phone: + (06) 249 2108
> Fax: + (06) 249 0736


Try rec.radio.amateur.misc.  Element sets for "satellites" (are you an
Aussie by way of Boston? :-)  are posted there approximately once a
week by T.S.Kelso.

And if I could plug my tracking program, SatTrak for the mac - it's on
the archives at sumex and rice in /info-mac/app/sat-trak-101.hqx.


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