From: ceg@dec-4.CE.Berkeley.EDU (Carl E. Grigorian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.iranian,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.rights.human
Subject: Re: SDPA Hypocrites Re: Islamic Hypocrites (was A commentary from Islamic Unity Magazine)
Keywords: Boznian cleansing is bad, Armenian cleansing is good ? How about Azeri cleansing?
Date: 22 Aug 92 02:11:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <172b5bINNh28@agate.berkeley.edu> sadi@physics3 (Sadi Turgut) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.175307.3411@urartu.sdpa.org> dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian) writes:
>>In the past 70 years the Armenian population has been a majority (almost 80%)
>>in Karabagh. This area was detached from Armenia along with Nakhitchevan and
>>given to Azerbaijan by Stalin in a jesture to Ataturk.
>
> What happened to your Nakhitchevan campaign, sir? It wasn't so easy, was it?
>Perhaps you should start to call it Nahcivan now.

Come to think of it, Sadi, why don't they change the Armenian name of
Nakhichevan to something Azeri and just erase any trace of it ever being
an Armenian city? Nakhichevan literally translates in Armenian to
"the place of first landdes" recentfering to Noah's Arch landing on the nearby
mount Ararat.

>>Armenians have been demanding simple human rights in Nagorno-Karabagh. For
>>example, teaching Armenian in schools and freedom of religion. Azeris said no
>>and Moscow backed them.
>
> And for some unknown reason, Nagorno-Karabagh appears to be more prosperous
>economically than other parts of Azarbaijan. How come, Azarbaijan, backed by
>Moscow, supplied economic aid to the region for 70 years?
> Isn't the Armenian appetite for NK arise from NK's economical superiority?

This is totally baseless. Economic superiority? Did they just just
find oil under Artsakh/Karabakh and made it "economically superior"
to the industrialized, oil producing regions of Azerbaijan? Or, did
the prices of mullberies and sheep skyrocket? Here is what my handy
Encyclopedia Britannica says about this economic region:

"As the average altitude is 4900 feet (1500m), it is one of the
areas in the republic where broken relief impedes the development
of transport, industry, and agriculture. Agricultural production
is concentrated in mountain valleys. Animal husbandry constitutes
60 percent of the gross agricultural output..."

So Sadi, now why don't tell me what basis you claim that Artsakh
/Karabakh has a superior economy?

>>Today, the Armenians in Nagoro-Karabagh ask nothing more EXCEPT that they not
>>be depopulated of that area.
>
> And the Muslims of Nagarno-Karabagh want to RETURN to their homeland. And
>they want to be able to LIVE in their homes.

Sure Sadi. First, the 200,000+ Armenians of Baku and Sumgait which
had to face Azeri pogroms and were evacuated will return to the rich
suburbs they lived in, then the 15,000 Armenians of the Shahumian 
districts "relocated" to Armenia by Soviet and Azeri OMON forces 
will be returned to their villages. Then the 200,000 or so Azeris
expelled from Armenia wilgo back to Armenia and resume the role
they played in Armenian agriculture. Then we start worrying about
the Azeris of Artsakh/Karabakh, ok? 

>>[FHM] Today, in the new world order, nations do not accept change in 
>>[FHM] geographical boundaries and will not recognize usurpation of other lands 
>>[FHM] by force.  Knowingly or unknowingly, Armenians trampled upon this 
>>[FHM] internationally recognized principle and attacked Nagarno-Karabagh with
>>[FHM] the idea of annexing it to Armenia. 
>>
>>You fool, Armenian LIVE in Nagorno-Karabakh, they didn't GO THERE!
>
> Muslims used to live in Nagarno-Karabagh, and they want to go there.
>New Armenian Republic, provided Arms and soldiers to the ethnic Armenians
>in NK, hoping that they will join to Armenia. In their campaigns, they
>not only displaced the Muslims in NK, but also depopulated the areas
>between NK and Armenia from its native population, in order to open
>a corridor between the two regions. The people who follow the net will

If you mean *all* the areas between Artsakh/NK and Armenia then you
are both misinformed and misinforming. If else, you prove it.

They depopulated one long 7 km road and one whole village, Lachin,
after months of total blockade by the Azeris. If Lachin was such 
civilian village, how did it manage to force a blockade on the
whole of Artsakh/Karabakh for over six months?


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