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From: nectar@world.std.com (Jacques A Vidrine)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
Subject: Re: Neophyte asks: "Protocol Language" -> C translators????
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:08:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.Brr3qw.4I0
Distribution: usa
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

steveh@intermec.com (Steve Heckt) writes:

>Please excuse me if this is a FAQ.

>I'm hoping to find a product (freeware, shareware or "purchased-ware")
>that will take as input a protocol described in a "protocol description
>language" (is there such a thing?) and translate it into ANSI C code.
>Does this software exist and if so where, how much and how useful?

The only product that I've encountered that does anything even remotely
like this is IBM's OSI/CS on VM, AS/400, or OS/2.

Their is such a thing as a "protocol description language", at least in
ISO circles, and it is referred to as Abstract Syntax Notation 1, or ASN.1.
It is simply a derivative of BNF.

At any rate, the OSI/CS products include as part of the Presentation Layer
something called an Abstract Syntax Checker which takes as input ASN.1 and
outputs either COBOL or C data structures.  You can then use the Presentation
Layer of OSI/CS to encode/decode data as specified by the original ASN.1.

As to whether or not that's useful, well, I don't believe that this product
has sold very well.  Of course, that probably has a lot to do with the
poor reception of OSI.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
From: sapp@falcon.ssc.gov (Kevin Sapp)
Subject: LLC and/or HDLC PD Source
Originator: sapp@sawdust.ssc.gov
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory, Dallas
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:29:16 GMT

Greetings!

I have a friend (not connected) that is looking for some leads
or pointers to LLC and/or HDLC public/cheap-ware source (C prefered).

Any pointers would be greatly appriciated.

Thankx,
Kevin
sapp@sawdust.ssc.gov

....Save the SSC....
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
From: eru@titlis.zurich.ibm.com (Erich Ruetsche)
Subject: Re: ST-II ?
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 11:17:37 GMT
Reply-To: eru@titlis.zurich.ibm.com (Erich Ruetsche)
Organization: IBM Zurich Research Laboratory
Keywords: ST-II, fiber optic connectors

RFC 1190  Experimental Internet Stream Protocol: Version 2 (ST-II).  Topolcic, C.,
      ed.  1990 October; 148 p. (Format: TXT=386909 bytes)  (Obsoletes IEN 
      119)
is not yet a standard and still needs some work	
	
Erich Ruetsche
From: bnguyen@airmics.gatech.edu (Bin Winn)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
Subject: [REQ] NetBios + ISDN
Keywords: isdn
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:14:37 GMT
Reply-To: bnguyen@airmics.UUCP (Bin Winn) gowens@airmics.gatech.edu
Organization: AIRMICS


Greetings, y'all,

Has anyone ever heard of the NetBios running on top of ISDN?

Forgive me for posting such a question on this news group 
because  I don't know where else I could do this.  

Thanks,

--BQN
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: aaron@gamma.com (Aaron Rosenbaum)
Subject: Re: ARAP and User&Groups files?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 08:38:53 EDT
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In comp.protocols.appletalk article  
<1992Jul22.010130.22665@SSD.intel.com> you wrote:
> > PS. Any news on a tool to transfer ascii files of userids
> > into User & Groups file format, so userids on AppleShare
> > 3.0 servers can be maintained from a centralized userid
> > database?
> 


> that makes so much sense, why hasn't someone done it
> already?  One developer i recently spoke with at the
> MacTivity '92 conference (he makes a AFP file server
> based on Intel technology) said Apple refused to open up
> the User&Groups file format to him.  So, his 3rd-party
> AppleShare server uses a proprietary file structure.

Get a document called "AppleShare 3.0 Developer's Kit - Users and  
Groups Programming Interface" from APDA.  Everything you need to make  
a new U&G file out of an ASCII file.  It's called the Ashare 3.0 dev  
kit but this document applies to Personal file sharing also. (The  
other documents are on AFP 2.1 and server control and event  
handling.)

APDA
800-282-2732
408-562-3971 (FAX)

I'm not waiting for an app though.  Has anyone used the new Quickeys?   
I haven't but I had this thought.  What if you recorded a desktop QK  
then just executed it on the other machines?  Does this feature work?  
It wouldn't be too automatic but at least you only type the names  
once?  VU isn't meant to be a macro program except for developers who  
include some testing framework in test versions of their programs  
(i.e. programs only  respond to VU events when the responder code has  
been compiled into the programs) and the finder does not have the U&G  
set-up program doesn't have this code there.

--
Aaron Rosenbaum
Gamma inc
1201 Braddock Place, #401
Alexandria VA 22314
(703) 684-1805
aaron@gamma.com
From: tony@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM (Tony Reeves)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: caps to imagen printer via unix?
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:05:48 GMT
Reply-To: tony@hacgate.UUCP (Tony Reeves)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

I am not familar with CAP. We have been using it for sometime and now I
somehow got luck enough to solve a CAP problem.  Here is the problem:

We have an Imagen printer that is attached to our Sun system running CAP. we
can print from the sun fine. However everytime we print from a mac we get the
following message from the imagen. Error: invalidaccess; OffendingCommand:
setdefaulttimeouts

Now one of our other sites said "the problem is the laser prep file" so they
gave me a laser prep file. However, they did not tell me what I'm suppose to
do with it. I looked at it, and it appears to be a postscript file. But yet I
can't print it, because if I do it prints the file just as I see it. that is
it prints the postscipt commands and does not run them. What am I suppose to
do with a laser prep file? I don't see anything else like it in the CAP
directory? Has anyone else used an imagen printer and CAP? 

any help would be just great!

-- 
Why did the Roman Empire Collapse? What is latin for Office Automation?
---- The opitions expressed here are mine and have nothing to do with Hughes
Aircraft Co. -- So there! tony@hacgate.hac.com
From: bob@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Bob Nutter)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: problem setting up CAP
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:53:57 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

Hi,

I'm a bit stuck: we have an existing departmental network carrying IPTalk, and
now we want to extend this to include Native ethertalk onto our campus backbone,
so that others can see us and we can see them. I've read through the CAP docs, and
I can't seem to figure it out. Any help at all would be greatly appreciated. I've
put the layout of our network at the end of this post.

Thanks,

bob nutter
b.nutter@umist.ac.uk


					Campus ether (Class B)
		       |                 |
	.---------.    |    .-------.    |
    --/-| Webster |----+----| sun1  |----+
	| MPG     |    |    `-------'    |
     ^  `---------'    |                 |
     LocalTalk*4       |                 |
	               |    .-------.    |
	               +----| sun2  |----+
	               |    `-------'    |
		       |                 |
		Dept ether #1            |
		(Class C)                |
	                                 |
	                                 //
	                                 |
		       |                 |
	.---------.    |    .-------.    |
    --/-| Webster |----+----|apollo |----+
	| MPG     |    |    `-------'    |
     ^  `---------'    |                 |
     LocalTalk*4       |                 |
	               |                 |
	    .-----.    |                 |
	    | Mac |----+                 |
	    `-----'    |                 |
		Dept ether #2
		(Class C)

-The Suns and Apollo act as TCP gateways to the backbone, we use IPTalk across
it, with asyncad running on the apollo. The Websters are in transition router
mode. Sun2 has NIT Native Ethertalk compiled into it's CAP, the others do not. We
have 3com bridges available, but they're not used at present.


	    
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Mark Andrew Hacker <hacker@uts.edu.au>
Subject: Abusing laserwriters, help!
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:31:33 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

I have had this problem for some years now, and everywhere I look there
is no real answers to the problem. In a University (or any institution)
where there are Laserwriters, students tend to abuse the right to print.

I need a workable solution to this problem. I am using Access Managed
Environment (AME) security software to discourage "outsiders" from using
our facilities. But, it's our own students who constantly print (we
printed in the last semester about 60,000 pages!).

The only product that had any hope was one called Printguard. This was
the best solution so far. It was a system of key-disk protection. You
gave (sold) the students key disks with say 50 prints on it. Each time
the Mac printed Printguard would ask for a key disk, and then deduct one
credit from it. This way we could give our students a set amount of
prints, and when used up they would have to purchase more credits
(disks). Problem, the company has "shelved" the project so far, and no
news on it ever getting finished.

Any ideas anyone? If someone has a product, I know they would make some
real money out it.

Thanks for thinking about this one.

.
Mark A. Hacker
Design Computing Unit
School of Design
University of Technology,Sydney.
Australia
Phone (02) 330 2917 Fax (612) 330 2933
Alink: AUST0475     Internet: hacker@uts.edu.au
From: GA0095@siucvmb.siu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Installing from AppleShare 3.0 (problem)
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:36:47 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I was doing network-wide software installs and upgrades from the server using
custom installer scripts for quite some time.  It worked really well until
last weekend when I upgraded my server to AppleShare 3.0.  Now some of the
scripts, the important ones of course, fail with '"xxxx" has a correct name
but it is not the correct disk' error.  What is the most puzzling is that
running ScriptCheck on a script file that is on my local hard disk proceeds
without errors (all files are found), but running ScriptCheck on a copy of
the very same script file that resides on the server fails (I get 'Insert
disk "xxxx"' dialog asking for the server volume that is mounted) when it
get to check infs resources.  There is clearly something bogus here.  And
I am in dispair as I need my installation capabilities right now. Any ideas?

Robert Brenstein   ga0095@siucvmb.siu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg (Wong Chee Heng)
Subject: Re: Proteon AppleTalk Router problem
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:57:46 GMT

andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner) writes:
: []
: 
: 	"IF the router generates an NBP LkUp packet with a DDP source
: 	address set to the address of the originating node (A), and a
: 	hop count of zero, the receiving nodes (B) can (incorrectly)
: 	GLEEN an AARP entry mapping the node A DDP address to the
: 	Router Ethernet address."
: 
:   -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com) write:
:
: Huh?  The incorrect behavior in this case is the router putting
: something other than its own address in the DDP source address field.
: The originating node's address goes in the NBP tuple.
: 

The router is behaving correctly in this case. Because, router are not suppose
to change DDP source address, it only pass packets to different network
interfaces and thus change only the Ethernet address in this case.

The problem is, if (using the same example mentioned) node A and node B are
truely in the same network, shouldn't NBP lookup be a link layer broadcast
to the local network rather than querying it from the router? My guess is 
that there may be some configuration fault that cause this to happen, 
probably the router believe there are multiple subnets/zone in the same 
ethernet cable, or node A and node B somehow believe that they are on two
different network.

This is just my $.02.



--
Wong Chee Heng
Systems Programmer
From: RAFI@BGUVMS.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: unsubscribe
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:45:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

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Subject: Where do I find CAP 6.1?
From: dskeeler@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Dennis S. Keeler)
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:55:05 -0500
Organization: Lost in n-space

	I've been able to find a CAP61.README file in several places, but
cannot find cap61.tar.z! I am totally new to CAP, so I'd like to install it
without having to go through a patching procedure. Does CAP 6.1 exist? If not,
where should I get cap60.tar.z from and then what patches should I add to be up
to date?
	I'm sorry if this info is in a FAQ.
	Thanks in advance for any help.

Dennis Keeler
dskeeler@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu 
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From: jstevens@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Jason Philip Stevens)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Can you mix GatorBoxes and FastPaths?
Date: 30 Jul 1992 00:34:19 GMT
Reply-To: jstevens@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Jason Philip Stevens)
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: jstevens@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu


We just tried putting a GatorBox into our strictly FastPath environment
with discouraging results.  When attemoting to use an AppleTalk tunnel,
the GatorBox wants to connect to port 910 on the FastPath, which apparently
is not what the FastPath expects.  Ergo, it doesn't work.  Does anyone
know if this is fixable, and if so, how?

Thanks in advance,

-jps
-- 
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Network User Services		Voice:  (713) 798-7370
Baylor College of Medicine	Opinions expressed are mine alone.
From: MIKERO@LNS61.TN.CORNELL.EDU ("Michael R. Roman")
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: turning fineprint on and off
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:10:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I have postscript code that sees whether photgrade is on or not, and I have
postscript code that can turn photograde on or off. Does anyone have similar
code samples that do the same for fineprint? Also, does anyone have code that
can force a Laserwriter IIxxx (xxx=+,ntx,f,g...) to print its startup page?

Mike Roman
mikero@lns61.tn.cornell.edu
From: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: How to set up multiple zones on single physical network?
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:27:03 GMT
Reply-To: peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce)
Organization: Peirce Software
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <eV2ooB1w164w@uuisis.isis.org> (comp.protocols.appletalk), rrwood@uuisis.isis.org (Roy Wood) writes:
> Has anyone ever tried setting up multiple zones on a single physical
> network?  I know this is possible, but I don't know how to go about doing
> so, and I'd like to hear from someone who is less ignorant than I am.
> 
> I know the idea sounds dumb, but I'm testing some software that I'm
> developing, and I *have* to make sure it'll work with multi-zone networks,
> and I'd like to test it out on the network here.

What I do when I'm testing multi-zone code is to load up the Apple
Router software in a number of Macs and plug LocalTalk connectors
into both serial ports on these machines.  This way I get a number
of little localTalk networks to work with.

        Zone 1       Zone 2     Zone 3
      +---------+  +-------+  +---------+    
      |         |  |       |  |         |        This gives three zones
   Mac A        Mac B      Mac C       Mac D     with four Macs.
               (router)   (router)

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From: DOWNING@ACFCLUSTER.NYU.EDU ("Troy Downing 212.998.5765")
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Apple Internet Router
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:12:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Looking for information on Apple's Internet Router software. Can it handle
TCP/IP (MACTCP)? will it run in the background on a workstation? 

any info appreciated!

-Troy Downing
downing@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: kdb@intercon.com (Kurt D Baumann)
Subject: Re: Need a mail program for Macs (Not on ethernet)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:46:32 GMT
Reply-To: kdb@intercon.com (Kurt D Baumann)
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation

In article <BOB.92Jul28144522@indian.prepress.com>, bob@prepress.com (Robert 
Crowe) writes:
> We do have Microsoft Mail for the Macintosh, Although I have not
> looked into it much, I suspect that it wont be able to grab mail from a
> Unix host.
> 

Yes.  Contact, either Cayman, or StarNine.  They both have packages that will 
do this.

> Is there any software available that will allow an ethernet-less
> macintosh to pick up mail via either snmp or pop from a unix host.

There are a bunch.  Depends if you want to use PD, or pay for commercial 
software.


Kurt Baumann                  Creators of fine TCP/IP Products
InterCon Systems
From: glen@Cayman.COM (Glen B. Glater)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Apple Internet Router
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:07:32 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: DOWNING@ACFCLUSTER.NYU.EDU's message of 30 Jul 92 16:12:29 GMT

In article <01GMZMD0KD008X1XTQ@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU> DOWNING@ACFCLUSTER.NYU.EDU ("Troy Downing 212.998.5765") writes:

  >Looking for information on Apple's Internet Router software. Can it handle
  >TCP/IP (MACTCP)? will it run in the background on a workstation? 
  >
  >any info appreciated!
  >
  >-Troy Downing
  >downing@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU

Apple InterNet Router does not route or gateway TCP/IP.  Most of the 
available hardware solutions do (Cayman GatorBox, Shiva FastPath, 
Webster MultiGate, Compatible Systems EtherRoute).  

The AIR does run in the background on a Mac.  Remember that if the Mac
is shut off or crashes (and we all know how infrequently that can 
happen) your router will be down until the Mac can be brought back up and
the AIR software restarted.

I hope this helps.  Questions on Cayman products can be sent to 
support@cayman.com, any others to glen@cayman.com.

Glen

--

	*************************************************************
	Glen B. Glater				Phone: (617) 494-1999         
	Technical Support Engineer		Fax:   (617) 494-5167         
	Cayman Systems Inc.			Internet: glen@cayman.com     
	26 Landsdowne Street			AppleLink:  CAYMAN.TECH	      
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From: philc@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Phil Corchary)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: HELP: Basic Macintosh Networking Questions
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:38:01 GMT
Organization: U S WEST MRG, Inc.

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>From: hontanon@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Ramon J. Hontanon)
>Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk,comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.apps
>Subject: HELP: Basic Macintosh Networking Questions
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In article <2138@h.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu> Ramon J. Hontanon,
hontanon@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu writes:
>o	Can I use thin wire ethernet the same way I use LocalTalk
>	(i.e. to run Appleshare and Mail)

Well, that depends on how you mean the same way ...
>o	Does the ethernet line have to be in a ring topology, or can
>	it be a line with open ends?

EtherNet is not in a ring topology, but in abackbone topology, with 50ohm
terminators 
at either end for 10b2 (thinnet)

>o	Do I need MacTCP to run Appleshare and Mail? Can I just use
>	ethertalk?

No. that is, depending on what Mail you are running ... if it is TCP/IP
based then 
yes, you do, but otherwise if you just have cc:Mail, or daVinci mail

>o	MacTCP requires that I give each Mac an IP address. How do I
>	determine a unique IP address? Can I skip this step since I don't
>	plan to use telnet or FTP?

If you have a large internetwork with tcp/ip then someone needs to assign
unique IP
addresses, unless you use server addressing. If these are the only tcp/ip
devices, 
you can be somewhat arbitrary about the whole thing. But, if you mail
doesn't
need tcp/ip, and you aren't going to use telnet, ftp, nuntius, newreader
etc from the
Mac, then you don't need it.

philc
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