HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: martens@laurel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Vikes cannot hope for a wild card.
Date: 15 Dec 92 02:39:12 GMT
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science

In article <Bz9qB6.Eno@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder ) writes:
>For the Vikes, this season, the only way to the playoffs
>is the Divisional Championship. If the Vikes lose to
>to the Pack, they cannot go to the playoffs. The Vikes
>will lose the tie-breaker to both the Skins and the
>Eagles as these two teams have beaten the Vikes in the
>regular season.

Not quite right.  If the Vikings beat Pittsburgh (1992's most
over-rated team), then the Vikes win the central regardless of
whether they beat GB.

If the Vikings can pass, they'll win.  If they can stop the run,
they'll win.  I doubt they'll be able to pass (unless Tommy Kramer
comes out of retirement.  Anybody know if Joe Kapp's busy?), but
they'll do a pretty good job of stopping Pitt.

>Will the Vikes break my heart in 1992.

Hopefully, but if they're alive in the playoffs later than GB,
I'll be rooting for them.

-- 
      "C'mon, what's the big hold up?!  Let's go, up there!
		  Bring on the snow!"  -- Calvin

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Gilford T. Hapanyengwi)
Subject: Skins down Cowboys
Organization: Vanderbilt University CS Dept.
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:06:18 GMT

The Redskins have just beaten the Cowboys 20-17.  Could someone who
saw the match please post a summary.  I just heard the final score.

--
<><><><><><><><>><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><<>><>
Gilford T. Hapanyengwi       | All animals are equal, but 
(615) 322-3552               | some are more equal than 
gilford@vuse.vanderbilt.edu  | others.
hapanyg@vuctrvax.bitnet      |

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:30:09 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: bcd@fang.att.com (Brendan Dwyer)
Subject: Re: Only the Buccaneers could manage this.
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:51:14 GMT

From article <1992Dec11.214418.27975@pdn.paradyne.com>, by lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James):
> You've got me all wrong, Brendan!   I'd never call anyone a meathead!  No,
> I appreciate the perception that a great, veteran quarterback  (I've begun
> to speculate that Joe Montona  could be available next season)  could do a
> lot, short term, for this franchise.  But,  just like the Lions' flash-in-
> the-pan, one-year, Mike Utley inspired, winning season;  it wouldn't last.
> Vinny might not be the answer, I'm just pointing out that to say he is the
> only problem is to put your head in the sand.
> --

I agree with you 100% about Vinnie not being the source of the Bucs problems,
infact my respect for him has grown quite a bit this year.  His numbers
don't do justice to his play because a fair number of his interceptions were
tipped balls.  The Bucs need to make several changes if they ever expect
to make the playoffs.  

1. Improve/replace defensive backs.  The teams that beat us usually did it
with their passing game.

2. Put McCants back at linebacker.  He's too small to be a DE.  Pick up
a true defensive lineman.

3. Teach the receivers to catch the damn ball.  Vinnie would hit them 
right in the numbers and they would still drop the ball.

4. Get rid of Gary Anderson.  He's great in the open field.  The field is
rarely open and it doesn't take much to knock him down.

I'm curious as to what other Buc fans think about their team.  Let me hear it
boys.

Brendan Dwyer
Go Raiders! 
Go Bucs!
From: operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu(Barry Trottier)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Date: 12 Dec 1992 19:43:47 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: yellow.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1992Dec12.045017.6829@Princeton.EDU> hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU  
(Ramesh Hariharan) writes:
> In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama  
Gopalan) writes:
> >In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald  
Lingle) writes:
> Joe who ?
> 
> :-) 
> -- 
> **************************************************************************
> Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
> Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
> Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)

Thank you for not wasting badwidth!
Get a life, please.  (Notice no "smiley".)

--------
Barry Trottier
e-mail:  operbwt@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Andre Ware is Baaaaaaad!!!!!
From: tim@cs.cosc.georgetown.edu (Tim Snyder)
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:55:04 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University, Washington DC

In article <1gjq7hINNn7v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci) writes:
>
>Have you ever watched Detroit this year?  The run and shoot is gone.
>They even have TIGHT-ENDS, something unheard of in the R&S. Barry
>has had eight 100yd games this year, and has broken 1000 for the
>fourth year of his four year career.  Even on an off year he's
>awesome.  The R&S has it's merits, and would be spectacular if a
>team could switch in and out whenever it wanted to - have the personel
>for the shot yardage situations or whatever but could go to four
>wide to confuse the defense.  And it does reduce the body mass on
>the line by about 20%, making it EASIER for a back to muscle through.
>That kind of thing can work either way.

AMEN, Lawrence.  I followup with this entire paragraph to make sure that
it goes into our heads:  This newsgroup is the _only_ place this year
where there has been a consistent misinformed barrage of Sanders info.
Message: Go ahead and check the NFC leaders; Sanders is not at the top,
but he is up there, despite what is arguably the league's weakest offensive
line.

Happy Holidays!

 Timothy Law Snyder
 Department of Computer Science
 Reiss 225
 Georgetown University
 Washington, DC 20057

tim@normal.georgetown.edu
(202) 687-6208
From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Barry Foster, rushing records
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:30:34 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec10.181013.11015@asl.dl.nec.com> nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix) writes:
>> Pittsburgh's only remaining pro star named Barry is setting new Steeler
>> records, but what's the single-season rushing record for the league? I
>> remember O.J. Simpson's heyday, but wasn't the record broken by Walter
>> Payton? I assume it doesn't include post-season play.
>
>This is all from memory, but the figures are in the ballpark.  
>
>The first 1000-yard rusher in the NFL was a guy back in the 40's who did
>it on right around 100 rushes during 11 or 12 games. He has a funny name
>like Feathers or something like that.
>
>The record kept increasing until Jim Brown rushed for 1860+ yards in the 
>60's (he did it in 12 games), and that record stood until 1972 when O.J.

Why do people keep insisting that Jim Brown got 1800 yards in a 12 game season?
For the last time... JIM BROWN SET HIS RECORD IN A 14 GAME SEASON!!!! OJ SIMPSON
THEN BROKE THAT RECORD IN A 14 GAME SEASON. NOBODY HAS EVER GOTTEN 2000 IN A 
14 GAME SPAN SO 1972 STILL REMAINS THE BENCHMARK FOR GREAT SEASONS BY A RUNNING
BACK! 

Whew! 

>rushed for 2003 yards by gaining almost 200 yards in the snow in the final
>week of the season.  He surpassed Brown's mark in the first half and then
>surpassed 2000 yards with a couple of minutes left in the game, after which
>he was taken out.  O.J. did it in 14 games.

In the snow.. rushed for over 200 yards... It was glorious!! 

>In perspective, Barry Foster has a chance to break the record but would 
>have to put together some monster 200+ yard performances.  However, anything
>over 1800 yards would put him in an elite club with Jim Brown, O.J Simpson,
>Walter Payton, Earl Campbell, and Eric Dickerson.

Foster does not belong in this club. Nor will he get there this year. 

Emmitt, Barry S. .. perhaps... Foster... No... No... and No again! 

-- 
Ronnie
-------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not cynical... I just don't believe in anything....
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:00:12 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: Re: Physics 101 (was Re: Aikman admits to fumble?)
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:35:43 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Distribution:  na

In article <1992Dec15.172357.25427@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh) writes:
>from the lack of a convincing camera angle to show otherwise... it
>appeared he was throwing the ball when someone hit his hand/arm... in
>physics terms...

If someone hits the quarterback's arm while the QB is trying to throw the
ball, is the QB's arm going forward or backward?

My point still stands.  If the ball goes backward out of the QB's hand,
then that hand must have been going backward when the QB lost control of
the football.  This isn't rocket science, folks.


-- 
Rick Schaut
UUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs

Microsoft doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for Microsoft.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Subject: Re: The Dynasty Continues..........
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:21:28 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Reply-To: richs@microsoft.com (Rick Schaut)
Distribution:  usa

In article <1992Dec15.201324.25111@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.174724.8216@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>>I'm not going to say that the 60s Packers were better than the 80s 
>>49ers.  I don't want to insult you.  But you better freakin knock it 
>>off 'CUS YOU'RE REALLY PISSIN ME OFF!!!!!

>So are you, John!

>I am really fed up with your "Packers are the best of all-time" nonsense 
>just because they won 5 championships in the bush-league 60s.

Eddie, I want you to read John's sentence _very_ carefully, and point out
_precisely_ where he claims that the 'Packers are the best of all-time.'
In fact, doesn't John specifically disavow the desire to make such a
claim?

I'll go a step further and paraphrase Dick Shaap who says that, while the
Packers of the 60s may not have played better football than a select few
other football teams, there's little doubt that the team which won the
first Super Bowl was the best _team_ ever to play any professional sport.


-- 
Rick Schaut
UUCP:...{uunet | uw-beaver}!microsoft!richs

Microsoft doesn't speak for me, and I don't speak for Microsoft.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Packers win at Houston
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: 15 DEC 92 09:50:54    

In article <1992Dec14.135827.457@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud) writes...

>Is it just me or did Terrel Buckley actually make tackles.  He even forced a 
>fumble.  Maybe not returning punts has something to do with that.  Sure did 
>feel nice not having him returning punts.

I think it was Carl Carter, who replaced LeRoy Butler at SS, who got the 
forced fumble.  The newspaper credits him with the FF and there's a 
picture of the play.  Buckley is no where to be seen.  He may have 
recovered it though.

JGH
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:20:08 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Reggie White
Date: 18 Dec 92 15:37:28 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec18.001724.29658@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> hamoudy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Mohamad E Allaf) writes:
>I am an Eagles fan and I was wondering if anyone out there knows if Reggie is going to be with the Eagles next year?  I know he previously said that this was going to be his last year with Philly but I do not know if he said anything about it since then. 

Well, there is a lot of speculation that he might end up in dallas/Washington.
He has been critical about the eagles management for a while and has said 
that he want the management to have contracts for the other good defensive
players in the team (simmons, joyner )

> Is there a chance he might stay (supposing they give him good money and the team does relatively well this year)?

There is a chance but i wouldn't put my money on it.



-Rajeev
A Scrambling Eagle Fan..
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: The Pack is Getting Closer!
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:12:57 GMT

In article <92350.234351RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>, Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Vikings fans have a good point though  The Steelers suck without Brister

I think you mean that they suck WITH Brister (without O'Donnell).  They were
actually a formidable team until Neil's injury.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Aikman admits to fumble?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 13:22:03 -0600
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu

Kalle.Kivimaa@hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa) writes:
>"A Forward Pass is a pass that:
  (a) moves forward (to a point nearer the opponent's goal line) after
      LEAVING THE PASSER'S HANDS and before touching another
      player; or
  (b) is handled (regardless of the direction of movement of the ball)
      by a player who is in advance of a teammate from whose hands he
      takes or receives it."

According to (b) then, a handoff to a running back in front of the QB is a
forward pass?
-- 
Timothy Tsai              Celtics Rule!!!
ttsai@uiuc.edu            Let's go Mets!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: watterson@stsci.edu (Mike Watterson)
Subject: Re: Silly wuarchive question...
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:51:37 GMT

In article <102093@netnews.upenn.edu>, youssef@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Albert Youssef ) writes:
> How can I log on to wuarchive?  I tried to ftp there, and I couldn't
> get on...
> 
> -Albert Youssef
> 
> 
Albert,

  Try wuarchive.wustl.edu



-- 
*******************************************************************
* Mike Watterson                         | watterson@stsci.edu    *
* Space Telescope Science Institute      | (410) 338-5052 (voice) *
* 3700 San Martin Drive                  | (410) 338-5075 (fax)   *
* Baltimore, Maryland 21218              |                        *
*******************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: d'mayeur@tier.key.edu
Subject: Re:  playoff games question
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:58:02 GMT

In article <92350.105902SLANE@ESOC.BITNET> <SLANE@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
> > 
>   First round is clear , DC3 vs WC3 and WC2 vs WC1.
> 
>   Let's say , as an example , this leaves ....
> 
>   SF     14  2                   DC1
>   DAL    13  3                   DC2
>   MIN    11  5                   DC3
>   NO     13  3                   WC1
> 
>   Does SF play MIN because it has the worst record , or does SF play NO
>   because they are ranked lower ?


	Assuming this was the case, San Francisco would, in fact, play the  
team with the lowest SEED-- New Orleans.  Dallas would play Minnesota. 
	Kind of a quirky thing, isn't it?  Actually, as far as the NFC  
goes this year, a team might be better off to get the second, rather than  
the first overall seed (unless, of course, you'd rather see your team play  
New Orleans instead of Minnesota.)

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro