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From: callahan@clubzen.fidonet.org (Greg scanlan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: ANIME EXPO '93
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 22:36:19 PST
Organization: Club Zen BBS - Fidonet/Internet - +1 408 734 2289

        I am pleased to announce Anime Expo '93.It will be held  in
 the Bay Area on July Fourth weekend.
         The convention is to be held under the auspices of The
 Society for the Promotion of Japanese Animation.
        Mr. James Matsuzaki, will Chair the Convention. The
 Convention is a joint effort of the merged resources of Anime
 Expo '93 and AnimeCon '93.
        Mr. Matsuzaki, has received pledges of support from Mr.
 David Medinnus, and Mr. Mike Tatsugawa.
        Mr. Matsuzaki stated in his acceptance speech to the
 S.P.J.A. and the assembled observers, that he would work to
 present a Convention that would be a Hallmark to Anime, and
 Manga  Fans Worldwide.

 *note* The name AnimeFest has been dropped for this project, as
 it  was only an interim identifier during negotiations. 

 As always I thank you for your patients, and interest. please
 address all questions, and comments to me I will forward them to
 Mr. Matsuzaki.
           ........GREG........

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From: ST102272@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Young Su)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: SD anime characters (was Re: Gunbuster Question
Date: 15 Aug 92 21:15:10 GMT
To: "Origin of LISTS.ANIME-L" <anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>


On Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:36:11 GMT
Alan Takahashi <takash@ames.arc.nasa.gov> says:
>
>(I'm not too fond of it myself, but SD-Gundam *did* undeniably extend
> the lifetime of the Gundam universe.  Maybe they should have tried
> it with other series.  How about SD-Miyu, SD-Orange Road, or
> SD-3x3 Eyes?  SD-Ultraman anyone?  Oh, sorry...they did that one already.)
>

Believe it or not, I've seen SD-Orange Road, SD-Nausicaa, Laputa, and Kiki's
in a few Japanese anime magazine a while ago.
(also saw Nadia doing SM on Jean, but that's beside the point..)

- Y.E.S.
From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ANIMEIGO : BUBBLEGUM CRISIS ON LASERDISC
Keywords: animeigo bubblegum crisis laserdisc ld
Date: 17 Aug 92 01:15:24 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


  Yatta!  The only problem is, I'm not sure I want to trash my BGC
boxes!  Wouldn't something else suffice, like the inserts or
registration card?  Or would they be too easy to duplicate?
 
  I take it you're not doing Bubblegum Crash! on LD (yet).
 
  -Ralph Jenkins

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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: ??
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 04:53:13 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Aug7.002520.567@glv.uucp> zack@thunder writes:
 > 
 > I find it hard to beleive there are no hard-core anime fans out there. Someone
 > start somrthing here. Please!

You mean hard-core fans (ie. who are heavily into anime) or people who
like hard-core anime???

There's plenty of the former. Aren't you getting any articles? Is your
news server down??

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From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: AAAAAAARRRRRG!!! my mind is going...
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:19:56 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


         I've been an anime fan for about three years now...thought I was   
normal...last night my dreams were invaded by anime characters....
*gasp* What should I do?

-- 
  HAVE A NICE DAY!                        ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu
(or die trying)--------AAAAAAARG! the paranoids are after me!

                                                               <fnord>
From: fongj@honi.EE.McGill.CA (chun kwai jay fong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re:  Reading subtitles (was Re: Professional subs
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:28:45 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

Well Ryan,

  As for myself, I find both subbed and dubbed animes good in their own ways!
Personally I prefer subbed because I believe the voices in the shows carry
the emotions across much more clearly!  But dubbed has it's obvious benefits!

  I have had no problem reading subtitles, although I've had to re-play a scene
to better read & watch the picture.  But most subbed animes are meant to be
watched more than once!  At least I do!

Jay
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: New BGC FAQ addition
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 19:41:09 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Aug7.155514.3985@foretune.co.jp> macross@foretune.co.jp writes:
 > 
 > And the same thing happened to Gooda Hiroaki, who was credited at the end of
 > Crash 3 for having done the original design for Largo, though he did not

And wasn't it somewhat obvious? :) Almost all the poses in Crash 3 of
Largo are direct copies of the poses he had in Crisis 6.. (Gawd, that
was an awful way to rip off a great character idea.)

 >         --from "Tonogata Gomenasobase," last opening theme from the TV
 > series "Urusei Yatsura"

Thankfully Theresa's done those songs, otherwise I'd be stuck until the
tapes came out. (Clever marketing ploy?) :)

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From: rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken)
Subject: Re: Make Your Own Anime!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Reply-To: rang@ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:16:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.151146.12251@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty-kun) writes:
>
>How's this:
>
>- James Cameron or Ridley Scott directing some anime.

I don't know about directing but Ridley SCott is producing an animated film
with Moebius..(O-hhhh boy...)

And the Kiki's idea of an entire series is cool...(Hint, hint..)
But on a side note, I hope Miyazaki will finish the Nausicaa manga!
Nd then maybe a second movie of Nausicaa (or three...!)

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From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRVowZj9OO1YbKEI=?= ))
Subject: English word for "shintaisou"
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:57:38 GMT
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Anybody know the English word for the Japanese "shintaisou"?
Shintaisou is the "new" kind of gymnastics that many characters
in anime do.  It is done by using a ribbon, ball, ring, clubs, etc.
It is even an Olympic sport.  I think it was XXXXX Gynmastics.

Anime characters that do shintaisou are:
Asakura Minami (Touch), Kunou Kodachi (Ranma 1/2)..

Can't think of any more right now.
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From: daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David A. Fleming)
Subject: Re: 3-D Computer Anime Objects?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 03:27:27 GMT
Keywords: 3-d objects

rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken) writes:


>Anyhow, I was wondering if anyone else has tried their hand at true 3-D
>modeling of any character/mecha; I'm looking for ANY format of 3-D model,
>hopefully in formts that can be loaded into Amiga formats, but any
>model, complete or not, will be helpful..

	Yeah, I know somebody who did a 3-d modelled transforming Z-Gundam
hanimation on his Amiga.  I think he's also done one of the Alex from 0080
and one of Priss' hardsuit.  What program are you using?



					Dave Fleming
					daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

					 

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From: jkim@jingoro.Eng.Sun.COM (Jun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Streamline Dub Jobs.
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:24:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: jingoro

In article <VRb-Dz+@engin.umich.edu> bernyeh@panthro.engin.umich.edu (Bernard Yeh) writes:
>
>Most of the posts on this group concerning Streamline gripe about how
>bad their dubs are.
>
>Okay then, WHAT IS THE ENGLISH DUB JOB OF A NON-ENGLISH FILM (in any genre)
>THAT ALL DUB JOBS MUST MATCH UP TO???? 
>
>[Run into flameproof bunker...]
>

Come on!  How about all those great kung-fu flicks, huh?  Great epics
such as "Defender of the Monkey style" , "The evil grip of the Turtle"
and the immortal "Hey, who's your master?"

:^)


>Come on, now, most of the dub jobs I've seen are pretty pathetic, compared
>to what Streamline is putting out.
>
>Give them some time and support (give them support? You must be joking! :^) ), and maybe they'll make enough money to actually hire better voice actors.
>(yeah, right, when hell freezes over and Macek dies of old age... :^)  )
>
>Personally, I think Streamline dubbing to be pretty decent, and at least
>they've pretty much stopped (okay, a concession for those anti-Maceks:
>reduced ... :^)  ) hacking plots to pieces.
>

Granted, leaving the story/plot intact is a good first step.  Second step is
to leave the dialogue so that all the implications/inferences which were
there in Japanese to be intact in English.  Now that's very hard to do,
but I think it can be done with only moderate sacrifices in meaning as long
as people are willing to do at least that much.

As for a real example of what I'd like to see dubbing like... 
(well, I think there was some disagreement over this some time back...)
is Laputa.  I believe Streamline dubbed this for someone (?) and I'd say
it's the best job they did.  Some phrases were translated so directly
from the japanese phrases, it came out funny in english (e.g. "we'll go
all the way" while Pazu and Sheeta were floating down the mine shaft) but
these only occurred in about 3-4 places.  The voices were very agreeable
and I didn't feel a noteable difference in "feel" between the japanese and
english versions... that's what I feel Streamline's goal should be: to achieve
the same feel in english as in japanese.

My question was and still is:  If they did it so great once, how come the
quality is back to robotech levels now?


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From: vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Canadian Postal Service????
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:46:08 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer) writes:

-       How much does it cost to send a tape from Canada to the US?
-       Has anyone had problems with the Vancouver Post Office? They seem
- to be losing some mail....
- 
- -- 
I live in Canada and have never lost anything and I do order A LOT of 
things. The biggest problem with the postal service is that we must have 
the worst CUSTOMS system in the entire world!!! The trouble just to order 
something is unbeleavable!!
 
I Tape sent from here in Canada to the US will cost aprox $8.00 CND
 
Vlad


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From: uc-chan@mcl.ucsb.edu (Christina Callihan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Filks (was Re: BGC music)
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:09:19 GMT

In <713541152snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au> michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:


>In article <1992Aug7.163317.4592@foretune.co.jp> macross@foretune.co.jp writes:
> > >Semi-seriously, has anyone actually written an "I'm an Otaku" filk?
> > 
> > Well, if the themes from "Otaku no Video" don't qualify, then I don't know
> > what does.

>That's not filk, though. Filk is taking the melody of a popular song
>and giving it fan-related lyrics... Like (off the top of my head)
>Madonna's "Like a Virgin" and changing it to:

>"Like a gaijin....
> Watching for the very first time..."

>Anyone wishing to expand on this idea, go for it, just DON'T blame me!
>:)

It was pointed out to me that the entire "I'm a __________" concept would
scan better as "I'm a Gaijin".  I almost wrote the dang thing, but I 
realized it was getting offensive.  To whom, I leave up to your imagination.
;^)

Actually, this does bring up a question:  _Would_ anyone like (or at least
not mind :) seeing filks posted here?  I've got some that I've written and
would be happy to contribute, if anyone is interested.  I know one of them
has already shown up on Genie.  :)


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: hoeke@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: Saints all brothers?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:42:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.223330.15191@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, as413@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric William Paslick) writes:

>>>OK, where did you get the idea that all the Bronze Saints were
>>>half-brothers?  This is the first I've heard of this.
>>
>>	Damned if I can remember my first source, but I've read it since in
>>several places (in fact, someone else independently posted that same
>>piece of information at about the same time I did.). I'll try to find
>>an exact source (a Manga summary? Matt? Matt? Did I totally blow it again?
>>Are you going to humiliate me publicly again?)
> 
> Yes, if you find the reference, please let me know.  I've collected both
> the manga and the tv series, and I've never made this connection.  I can
> almost see Old Kido as Zeus, but it sure dosn't say much for the
> mortallity rate of his dates.  A vengfull Hera?
> 
> 					Eric

Try manga collection issue #5. When Ikki is explaining all of the background. I
have yet to do a complete translation thereof, but ballpark-wise, Zeus/Kido is
responsible for several hundred children. (Busy BUSY man.... maybe it's a good
thing he IS a god... can you imagine the required stamina???  :)   )


Tani
Hoeke@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
hoeke@untvax
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: an honest answer would include .. [was: Why is Anime so popular?]
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:53:28 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>I really don't think
>sex and violence (as mentioned in some other post) is really necessary
>outside of extreme action features...

not even then.

>and _that's_ definately a plus for those action 
>type scenes we all know and love... :)

Well, *some* people.
-- 
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djohnson@ucsd.edu
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From: umadoka@mcl.ucsb.edu (Mantas don't fly!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: oops--Lodoss War cd #2 translation
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:00:44 GMT

Silly me.... I forgot to include my .sig again.  Maybe I got so modest
I didn't want to take credit?  Nah....
Anyway, here it is, just to dispell any confusion!



Melinda Miller
umadoka@mcl.ucsb.edu
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From: kilpatri@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu (John A. Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Toppu o nerae! pronounciation
Date: 23 Aug 92 05:12:29 GMT
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Originator: kilpatri@nextnet

I have a question about the name for Gunbuster.  It looks like Toppu o
nerae!  (Toe poo o neray...kinda) but it sounds like they are saying
Toppu o nerai! (Toe poo o nerye).  Why is that?
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From: ANIME@NTIVAXD.CC.VT.EDU (Japanese Animation Club of N.T.U.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: - mailedt.ini -
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:33:00 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
Original_To:  LAW
Original_Cc:  ANIME

Date sent: 21-AUG-1992 13:32:47

I know how to solve the problem already.
But yu need to be there at the same time
Ie, I can't SEND or MAIL it to you.
tell me when you're free.



-Sunny

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 17:26:59 CDT
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: $5.95? Forget it.

Is it my imagination,or is Malibu attempting to price ANIMAG out of existence?
After seeing a copy of Vol. 2,No.2 today,I could've sworn that my wallet was
screaming for mercy as soon as my nerve impulses got that far south. I had
trepidations about continuing to buy this thing when it was $5,but a five-
cents-short of-$6 price tag is ridiculous. Yes,I know that it's 68
pages in length. That makes little,if any,difference.

Yeeesh. And to think that I used to howl about how _Viz_ overpriced their
stuff....

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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: What dos MST3K mean?
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 19:55:26 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <9208061839.AA03037@tmcpcnet.tmc.edu> Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu writes:
 > 
 > Mystery Science Theater 3000. It's a television show produced by Best
 > Brains in Minnesota, U.S.A., and currently showing on the Comedy Channel
 > on better cable systems in the land of the free. What's the premise?

[...]

 > vs. Ghidra," and "Robot Monster." The trio do all they can to improve
 > what they're watching through spontaneous dialogue and plot inserts. I'd

We have something somewhat similar in Australia. A group called "Double
Take" tour the country regularly (two guys, one girl) who go to the art
cinemas with such classics as those wonderfully horrid "Hercules"
movies or B-grade SF invaders sort of things. BUT, they re-do the
entire dialogue AS IT HAPPENS in the back of the cinema (eliminating
the original soundtrack) and get the audience involved in the whole
idea. It adds a bit more spontaneity with feedback from the audience,
and you can see their performance a number of times and get a
"different" movie each time. :)

Sadly, since it's only the one team, and they have to cover the country
(as well as take holidays) they don't turn up as often as people are
willing to go.

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