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From: desilets@src.umd.edu (Mark Edward Desilets)
Subject: Re: Squat Tips
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:51:46 GMT

In article <Jul.22.16.56.35.1992.2115@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
>
>I've been doing 20 rep sets of breathing squats (at least three
>deep breaths per rep), and when I go much over 200 pounds I have
>trouble with lightheadedness and the bar trying it's best to fall
>off of my shoulders.  Any tips?  Note that I do *not* hold my breath
>while I go up; I exhale.  My back feels a little sore afterwards,
>but this goes away after an hour or two.  Any reason to worry?
>-- 


  If you don't feel lightheaded, you aren't doing them correctly :-}
  I like to do these as a break from heavy squats, but I always have
  to sit down after a set.  I usually do these at 185, but occasionally
  do them at 225 if I'm feeling potent.  At 225, I get as close as 
  I like to to the puking threshold.  Anyway, the real reason that
  I responded to this is that I seem to recall that you are a 
  home-gymmer.  I have a buddy who has one of the hip belts that
  IronMind sells (which holds the bar between your legs perpindicular
  to the axis of your torso and to the axis of your pelvis).  The
  really fuggin-a-bubba-cool thing about it is YOUR HANDS AND WRISTS
  DO NOT TIRE OR HURT!!!!  Which is a problem for me with squats in
  general.  This would address the problem of the bar wanting
  to fall off your shoulders as well.  In addition, this method of 
  squatting takes all the pressure off of your back.  I don't suppose
  I would entirely replace normals squats with this (if I had my own),
  but I would certainly cycle them in.


							Mark

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: Questions About Low Carbo Diet
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:19:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.165047.18731@stortek.com> pae@blackcat.stortek.com (Phil Earnhardt-x8236) writes:
>
>This doesn't make a lot of physiological sense. The only means to metabolize
>fats is in muscle cells. What must be present in order to do this in the
>muscle cells is oxygen and glycogen (carbohydrates) to "prime" some of the
>chemical reactions in the aerobic metabolic path.

True, but any excess protein can be converted to glucose and used.  This
is more work for the kidneys, but the theory is that a low-carbo diet
minimizes blood sugar/insulin problem that some people now are speculating 
is a primary cause of overeating that leads to obesity (the so-called
carbohydrate addict).

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Subject: Re: suggested books/exercises for ab work?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:47:25 GMT


loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:

>Dan...You can have a flat stomach, but have nothing underneath.  In other words,
>you can have a flat stomach, but not moch abdominal definition.  What are you
>looking for?

I'd like to concentrate on flattening first, then work on definition.

-- 
aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu  *  Dan Dooovall  *  Zone Czar

Ia Ia! Cthulu fhtagn! Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulu R'lyeh wgah-nagl...
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: whoops
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:34:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.154424.54701@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
>that last post of mine "*" got totally screwed up.  Half of it was meant
>for another bboard...sorry....

  Gee, I'm sure they will be feeling terribly deprived.



  Ed Crick


Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: desilets@src.umd.edu (Mark Edward Desilets)
Subject: Re: Stiff-armed Pullovers
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:43:56 GMT

In article <Jul.22.16.39.34.1992.1597@remus.rutgers.edu> clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) writes:
>
>I've recently added these back to my program, and I wonder
>if I'm doing them correctly.  After I finish, I crunch my
>pecs and feel a soreness in the lower middle pec area; is this
>as it should be?  Also, should I try to build up the weight for
>this exercise?  Currently I'm using a 15 Kg plate.  Any
>comments on sets/reps, how often, correct breathing, or comments
>on results from doing these?

  I love this exercise.  I do these with a 50 lb dumbbell for three sets
  of 15 every other back workout which makes it roughly every 12 days.
  I would like to do it more often, but, then, which other exercise 
  would I omit?  Anyway, you are getting sore in one of the correct 
  areas, the other two being the intercostals and front and lower portion
  of the lats.  At least this is where I get it.  As to breathing, I
  always try to emphasise taking a deeeeep breath on the eccentric
  portion and exhaling fiercely on the concentric portion.  Although
  classic "breathing pullovers" are typically bent-arm movements, I
  surely feel the pressure on my ribcage when I do stiff-arm pullovers
  this way.


							Mark
From: ah238@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Zupko)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Shoulders
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:25:26 GMT
Reply-To: ah238@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Zupko)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


Anyone know any good shoulder exerices with dumbbells?
-- 
	It may not be today, or tomorrow but the truth will comeout.

 
 AH238@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU                            --------->>>>>>>>>>JAZ
From: chuck@anchovie.ssd.kodak.com (Charles S. Collins 726-9461)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Weight training with diabetes ?
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:57:08 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak

In article <92203.105908IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Robert Cryan Jr. <IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>
>I am trying to get in touch with people who have diabetes to relay some
>information to my training partner.  I know very little about diabetes
>and cannot help as much as I like.  Are there any weightlifters out there
>that can lend support through personal experiences or maybe the name,
>number or address of a Doctor/health professional that specializes in
>weightlifters with diabetes?
>

I don't have an address for you but it should be easy to find.

Go to a bookstore and find a copy of "Exercise for Men Only" or
"Natural Physique".  The editor of these magazines is Steve Downs.
Write to him.  He's diabetic, a wonderful guy, and a successful
bodybuilder.





-- 
Chuck Collins				Product Software Engineering
chuck@pixel.kodak.com			Eastman Kodak Company
(716)726-9461				901 Elmgrove Road
					Rochester, NY  14653-5811
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller)
Subject: Re: Fat metabolism
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Tucson Az.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:16:51 GMT

In article <mduffy.712307357@griflet> mduffy@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (Michael Duffy) writes:
>vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>
>
>
>>	According to my most recent info, fat metabolism kicks in after
>>about 15-20 minutes of aerobic exercise.  It then lasts for at least one
>>hour, and *perhaps* up to 4-5 hours.
>
>>	Does anyone have some more precise information on how long fat
>>metabolism lasts?
>
>>-- 
>>Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU
>
>>"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
>> an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
>
>I can give you no clues on how long fat metabolism lasts for. I can only 
>say that if you are having trouble talking (ie you pant while between
>words) you are most probably in the fat burning range.
>

I don't think this is correct. You are burning fat up until your heart rate
reaches 75-80% of your theoretical max. This is also about where you begin
having trouble talking. A general rule of thumb, if you don't have a clock
with you, is that if you can hold a conversation while you are exercising
then you are burning fat. Anything more exhausting than this indicates that
what you are doing requires energy faster than fat can be metabolized, so
your body quits the fat burning and kicks in with more efficient carbohydrate
burning.

Luther
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Re: Recommended low-fat main courses
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 01:36:40 GMT


In a previous article, lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) says:

>>	4) Tofu burgers.  You can find tofu burger mix at the 
>>	supermarket.  If you buy your tofu in bulk (e.g. at a co-op)
>>	this can be rather inexpensive.  In my opinion, these don't
>>	taste bad at all, especially with a dash of soy sauce.  Also,
>>	I recently tried making a patty out of 50% tofu burger and 
>>	50% ground turkey.  Since the tofu tends to absorb the flavor
>>	of whatever it's cooked with, this came out rather well.  
>>	Tofu protein is almost complete, but if you want to improve the
>>	quality even more, try eating the burgers with other grain
>>	products, esp. corn or rice.
>
>I was going to get into tofu, until I started reading the nutritional
>information. Seems that about 50% of the calories are from fat. Is this
>true with all brands of tofu?
	I think so, Luther.  However, I recommend it nonetheless because
even if the percentage of calories from fat is rather high, it still
contains LESS fat per ounce than most meats.  It also has less calories
per ounce.

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re: high-protein meal before or after workout?
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:01:11 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

Neither, at least according to sports-medicine physician, Gabe Mirkin.
Today on his talk-radio show, he said the data shows that eating
carbohydrates immediately following any atheletic event helps restore
depleted glycogen in the tired skeletal muscles. However, there is
no data to support the theory that high-protein food is indicated.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 1992 08:28:27 EDT
From: Robert Cryan Jr. <IA00078@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Squat Tips

In article <Jul.22.16.56.35.1992.2115@remus.rutgers.edu>,
clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long) says:
>
>I've been doing 20 rep sets of breathing squats (at least three
>deep breaths per rep), and when I go much over 200 pounds I have
>trouble with lightheadedness and the bar trying it's best to fall
>off of my shoulders.  Any tips?  Note that I do *not* hold my breath
>while I go up; I exhale.  My back feels a little sore afterwards,
>but this goes away after an hour or two.  Any reason to worry?
>--

I have done the high rep sets as well (with great results) and I find
that making sure the bar is frimly placed on my upper back lets me spend
more time concentrating on 'breathing' and the leg work itself.

For me the proper position on the back is critical.  There is a grove on
the back made by the posterior deltoid head and the trapezius the locals
have called 'the shelf.'  I set the bar on this shelf keeping my hands
on the bar 8-10 inched wider than shoulder width and elbows as paralell
to the floor as possible.  This keeps the bar in place.

The breathing is a little harder for me.  I do not breath out a great deal
when I am going up.  I do inhale and exhale  a few times at the top to
try to catch my breath and make sure I am ready for the next rep.  If I
do in excess of 12 reps with heavier wieght I have to do them slow enough
to keep my self from getting lightheaded.

I hope this helps and as always other opinions are welcome

Rob.

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: cecchinr@berra.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini)
Subject: Re: Arm Wrestling - Which Muscles ?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:06:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.165127.6956@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>In article <14597@umd5.umd.edu>, silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>> Well, Guy, and anyone else who is interested, the most important muscle groups
>> are the following:  forearms (wrists), hand (gripping), biceps, triceps,
>> shoulders, and back.  You probably didn't expect me to say all that, but it's
>> true.
>
>Actually, Adam, we all expected you to list everything that excluded
>any muscles in your legs :-).
>
>Man, 250 squat?  How do you stand up?  :-)
>
>GMS

His ego hold him up! (just kidding dude)

Ron

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: kckbxr@next05pg2.wam.umd.edu (Robin Hood)
Subject: Re: Push-Up Suggestions!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:05:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.171206.6628@ac.dal.ca> whare@ac.dal.ca writes:
> My little brother has a bet with a friend that he can do 100 push-ups in  
a row
> by the end of the summer (Aug. 31). Right now he can barely do 40. Does  
anyone
> have any suggestions as to increase his endurance/strength in the areas  
of the
> body used in push-ups. 

Tell him to do push-ups every chance he gets.  From the moment when he  
gets out of bed until when he goes to bed -- encourage him to do push-ups.   
By doing smaller reps (say 15-20 at a time) more times a day, he'll  
increase his overall endurance and be able to crank out much more later.

Bill
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness,rec.running
Subject: Re: Sunscreens
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:10:52 GMT
Organization: Mail Group

bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas) writes:

>	o recommendations for effective, non-greasy sunblocks?

The best sunscreen I have ever used is Aloegator.  It is SPF 40,
protects against UVA and UVB, and lasts for up to 8 hours in water.  I
use it while windsurfing, and it works great...much better than
Bullfrog.  

Will Estes         Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: rubber band machines
Date: 25 Jul 92 13:13:50 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <2178393@overmind.citadel>, cs.tulane.edu!fs@overmind.mind.org writes:
> 
> I used to use Nautilus machines at a health club.
> Nowadays I have neither the money for membership
> nor the travel/dress/undress/wait-in-line time to spare.
> So I'm looking into home strength-training machines.
> 
> Some of these use weight-stacks, some thick rubber bands,
> and others use things that look like automobile shock-absorbers
> for the resistance.  Any opinion on which approach is best/worst?
> 
> My own inclination is to avoid the weight-stacks
> as being less safe with small children in the house.
> 
> The shock absorber type machines (e.g. Trimax & Nordicflex Gold)
> are pretty expensive, except for one brand that didn't offer
> a full range of exercises.
> 
> I believe competition will drive the prices down before long,
> and/or lead to significant product improvements.
> Therefore, to test my working-out resolve I am considering
> a cheap $300 Sears rubber band model while I wait for
> the really good machines to become affordable.
> How good are these cheaper models?
> 
> (I value performance and convenience, and won't mind
> that much if it breaks three years from now).
> 
> ------------------------------------------
> Frank Silbermann fs@cs.tulane.edu
> Tulane University New Orleans, Louisiana  USA

Frank,

From what I have heard, the "rubber band" models are junk.  Your better off
with weight stacks and pen up the kids.  If you buy the cheap $300 Sears model,
that's exactly what your going to get.  Cheap and poor quality!  Invest a little
more dough and get something that is going to survive and give you a good solid
workout.  You don't want something that feels like it's going to collapse when
you start working with it.

Rob
Loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu
From: spdcc.com!dyer@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Questions About Low Carbo Diet
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:23:00 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

In article <9207221322.AA01721@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU 
(J Green) writes:
>ketosis is nothing to play with! ketosis occurs when the body does/doesnt(?)
>produce ketones,

Does.

>and can have disasterous results including (if i'm remember-
>ing correctly) coma. ketosis can be monitored using test strips, which can
>purchased at most drug stores (over the counter).
>i can't remember all the specifics, but my friend's cat is diabetic, and
>she has to test his glucose and his ketones.
>i'm not a doctor or anything, so ask a doctor or pharmacist for more info!

Any very-low-calorie diet (< 700 kcal/day) will produce ketosis, as
well as higher caloric intakes when carbohydrates are restricted.
Diabetics have to watch for a condition known as ketoacidosis, which
results from a lack of insulin (and therefore ingested carbohydrates
aren't metabolized, causing an effective lack of carbs, as far as
causing ketosis is concerned.)  In a healthy non-diabetic individual,
mild ketosis isn't anything to worry about, although such low calorie
diets can be rather unpleasant to stay on for any length of time.


-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:52:01 EDT
From: S. Wukovitz <SXW103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Weight training with diabetes ?

Well, I'm a diabetic who does weightlifting, though certainly not
as intensely as many of the members of this grup seem to.  When I
checked with my doctor, she was not overly thrilled (I do aerobic--
stair machine--exercise too of course :-) and also mentioned that
if I ever develop eye problems, I should stop.  Apparently weight
lifting puts too much pressure on one's eyes (?).  On the other
hand, she wasn't too thrilled about my vegetarian diet either, even
though it has caused me to consume much more fiber, lose 35 nasty
pounds (to be 5 pounds underweight), and have much better blood
sugars and control in general.  Therefore, I'm probably going to
find a new doctor :-)

-Stephanie Wukovitz
steph@math.cornell.edu
From: csi.uottawa.ca!mlantin@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Sweating !!!!
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:05:00 GMT
Organization: University of Ottawa
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

In article <827@jgaltstl.UUCP> terry@jgaltstl.UUCP (terry linhardt) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.195507.3083@csi.uottawa.ca>, mlantin@csi.uottawa.ca 
(Maria Lantin) writes:
>> 
>> I read more than once that women in general sweat less than men.  The 
reason
>> given for this is that the female body is more efficient at cooling down.
>> I certianly have noticed that I sweat far less than my SO but that could
>> just be coincidence.  Could any women out there concur?
>> Nevertheless I think sweating is perfectly normal and shouldn't be 
considered 
>> unhealthy.  
>> 
>
>Are you sure that less sweat means that a body is *more* efficient
>at cooling? The body sweats in order to cool off. I think that the
>person who sweats more is actually cooling off more efficiently 
>than the 'non-sweater'.

Well if the body of the non-sweater is actually being cooled down with
less sweat (and therefore less work) by the body it would seem that it is
more efficient.  Since I wrote this 2 women have said that they sweat
more than their male SO's so maybe there is no difference and those 
articles I read were bull.  I don't know.

   Maria
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: seove@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (ERIC OVERTON)
Subject: How to use Arm Blaster?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 28 Jul 1992 14:49 EDT  

I have an Arm Blaster that was given to me but I've never
seen it used. I know I can attach plates to it but I'm not
sure how it's used.  Do I curl with it?

Need help.

Thanks
From: loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Reliv (latestMLM product)
Date: 25 Jul 92 13:19:39 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <2178132@overmind.citadel>, ide.com!forman@overmind.mind.org writes:
> In article <l6o67sINNg25@phobos.cs.utexas.edu> mahoney@cs.utexas.edu (J. Jeff
>  Mahoney) writes:
>>
>>    I just got invited (read ordered) by my aerobics boss to attend
>>a seminar tonight on a new(??) nutritional food supplement called
>>RELIV.  It is supposed to give you unlimited energy, and rid you of
>>all body fat, etc, etc.  They are using a multi-level marketing
>>approach to distribution, and it reminds me 100% of Herbalife.  Their
>>seminars consist of people standing up and telling of the great things
>>that it has done for them.  Roscoe Tanner is apparently one of the
>>big players for this product.  Of course, nobody seems to really know
>>what's in the product, only that it works for them (so who cares what's
>>in it....right?).
>>
>>    I'm hoping someone on the net has more detailed info on this product.
>>HAs anyone read anything about it?  Anybody got some good tough questions
>>that I should ask the sponsors tonight?  Any info on this product,
>>or experiences with similar MLM scams are most appreciated.
>>
>>    Either post or e-mail responses.  If there is any interest, I will
>>post tomorrow as to the result of tonights meeting.
>>
>>-- 
>>*** jeff mahoney   e-mail: mahoney@cs.utexas.edu   compuserve: 70243,3525  
> ***
>>** Artificial Intelligence Laboratory, Taylor Hall 2.124,  UT Austin 78712  
> **
>>**   Voice: (512)389-1349      Internet Talk: mahoney@ai.cs.utexas.edu      
> **
>>********* I SOUND MY BARBARIC YAWP OVER THE ROOFS OF THE WORLD!  -WW 
> *********
> 
> 
>      I've been waiting for this topic to hit.
> 
>      I have several friends who use and/or sell this stuff 
>       (for about 4 to 6 months, now).  They swear by it.
>      They love it.
> 
>      Personally, I avoid most multi-marketing products.  Period.
>      To each his/her own.
> 
>   Bonnie
> 
>   They think
>      it kk
> --
> ********************************************************************
>  forman@ide.com   * ``Things that are Real are given and received  *
>  !sun!ide!forman  *            in Silence''      M.B.              *
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Jeff,  I'm curious as to what was talked about at this conference.  In my 
opinion it sounds like another "magic bullet".  Maybe I'm wrong.  Post the
results for the net.

rob
Loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: nausea during a workout
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:15:03 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Jul28.151728.194621@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
>I also become very nauseated during my workout, but only during the late
>spring and during the summer.  Of course, all ab exercises make me sick,

[stuff deleted]

>electrolyte imbalance involved...or, because I'm dieting, if I go
>into a mild state of ketosis, if there is a mild state.

I feel this way if I have a hard workout when I haven't eaten much food.

							-Adam

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