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From: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: what is too much...
Date: 22 Nov 1992 01:09:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) says:

>aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile) writes:
>>When would you say that a person has gone too far on a PARANOIA trip...
>>	I mean if it's to be effective it should be believable, but where
>>do you set the barrier, and say that you've gone too far..????
>
>Are you talking about making someone else paranoid?
>
>Well, personally, I'd probably beat the living shit out of a friend if they
>did that to me at all...  I don't enjoy it...
>
>I guess it depends on the person then.
> 
well I think I assumed that every body played these games once in a while
with their friends, but let me explain.....
Usually when intoxicated we sit around do a little "audio visual", and then
begin to play mind games with each other. little things like music that we
pick up with messages overlaid at super low speeds. critical
analyzation of each other, computer games that flash messages on the
screen while you play, fast enough to confuse you, but slow enough to
grab your attention, music in many different languages. Those sort of
paranoia games....
    	and If not what do you do..????!?!?!
>-- 
>Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
>  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
>                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
>
-- 
One can only truly appereciate moderation until they have experinced excess!
Games without frontiers, War without Tears<==Peter Gabriel
I see you lying to me... Death to the weakling! Wealth to the strong!
disclaimer:===> This is all a lie and I don't believe a word of it......!!!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Blotting Acid
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:06:24 GMT

In article <By1L82.AC4@willamette.edu>, amessing@willamette.edu (Adam Messinger) writes:
>Does anyone out there know how acid is normally blotted?  Is the blotter
>dipped in a tray containing the liquid or is a pipette used to dispense it
>square by square?  How is the dosage controlled?  Thanks for your help...

Dipped.  Laid flat on a screen to dry.

If you have some LSD in solution ("liquid acid") that you want to put on
blotter, here's how you do it:

Buy at least one more sheet of blotter than you need.  Weigh a test sheet;
then dip it in water and lay it flat on a screen until it stops dripping
(should be a minute or two).  Weigh it again.  The added weight is the
amount of water which was absorbed by the blotter.  You can convert this to
volume using 1 g/ml as the density of water.

Now figure out how many sheets you want and how much of your solution is
appropriate to make a reasonable dose/square.  Add water if you need to, and
put your solution in a tray.  Dip the sheets and lay them flat on a screen
above the tray, so any extra drips back in.

This is not from any first-hand experience, just general knowledge of
chemistry.  I may have left out some precautions, such as "Don't touch the
stuff with your hands unless you feel like tripping."

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dc@ais.org (David Daniels)
Subject: Spore prints... 
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:58:52 GMT


  I just read the FAQ on growing shrooms from learybot on irc, and what i'd
like to know is, how can you make/get spore prints when you have no shrooms?
The FAQ describes making the spore prints out of 'shrooms.. Hmm


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette)
Subject: Re: Jell-O Killer Gets Life Term (LSD-related)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 04:28:49 GMT


Jani-The LD's in humans are unknown. It's kind of hard to get volunteers!
Correlations of LD's in animals with LD's in humans are a guess at best.
From: mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey)
Subject: Re: Amsterdam Coffee Houses
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:55:26 GMT

In article <1e1ak3INNhp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> caedmon@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman) writes:
>
>mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey) writes:
>
>
>>Howdy,
>
>>Know this has been covered before, but is there a list of Coffee
>>Houses in Amsterdam that are safe places to purchase Hash, Marijuana,
>>etc?
>
>I wonder if anybody has any prices for marijuana in said coffee houses..
>I'm interested in comparing.  

I've been getting responces on the order of $5.00 per gram for each.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: what is too much...
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:15:12 GMT

aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile) writes:
>When would you say that a person has gone too far on a PARANOIA trip...
>	I mean if it's to be effective it should be believable, but where
>do you set the barrier, and say that you've gone too far..????

Are you talking about making someone else paranoid?

Well, personally, I'd probably beat the living shit out of a friend if they
did that to me at all...  I don't enjoy it...

I guess it depends on the person then.
 
-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
From: veggie@works.uucp (The Deth Volkswagen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: More misinformation????(X-stasy)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:48:19 EST
Organization: The Works BBS - Informational Archives - Est. 1985

lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:

> >braindl@uhura.aston.ac.uk (DL BRAIN) writes:
> >: 
> >: 	A doctor has issued warnings about LSD in lethal doses on blotter
> >: 	printed with the cartoon character Bart Simpson..two people have
> >: 	died after taking the acid..
> >: 
> >: In _Lethal_ doses on blotter, yea and I supose they're about 20mX20m piece
> >: blotter....
> 
> Well, you can fit about 1024 hits on a 1" x 1" piece of blotter.  So maybe
> like a full gram on a 3" x 3" piece of blotter...  Of course I'm assuming the
> blotter is pure LSD.... hmmm... 1 foot by 1 foot maybe? =). 
> 
> -- 
> Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
>   "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
>                                       -- Robert Anton Wilson

Yeah. 1 foot by 1 foot would just about HAVE to be it. There is no 
possible way that you could fit enough LSD (even pure) on a 1" x 1" 
square piece of paper to even come CLOSE to being a projected fatal dose. 
Once again, I emphasize, there have never been ANY confirmed reports of 
deaths from overdose of actual LSD. 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jac1@ra.msstate.edu (Jennifer Cox)
Subject: Re: Pupil Dilation
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:32:43 GMT

honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig) writes:



>As long as you don't lose your cool, eye contact won't give you away (except
>to the knowing).  "Well officer, its dark out..."  "Well officer, I've been
>staring at a computer screen all day..."  Your tripping pupils will still
>react to light by closing up, but their resting state is a mm or two larger
>than normal.

Or you can always say that you had taken some cold medicine with
phenylpropanolamine as the decongestant.  It wires the hell out of
me and my pupils dilate to an extent......


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: coke..
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:47:39 GMT


>cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti) writes:

>>No...I'll try to make this easier...  How much coke per day
>>would someone have to use to make their nose collapse/disolve?
>>A half ounce?  At a cost of *at least* $3500 a week?

No I'd guess an eightball a day would do it.  Maybe up to $500+
a week depending on where and who.   

A gram a day might even do it if maintained long enough.

Who knows?
From: khatibi@fructidor.ibp.fr (KHATIBI Damien)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: which coffee shop in Amsterdam
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:14:09 GMT
Organization: UFR d'Informatique - Universite PARIS 7

hello,
I'm planning to travel a little...Amsterdam seems to be quite a good idea...therefor I have two requests:
what;s that expression again??? Sex and Drugs and Rock'n roll!
    I'd like to know in which coffee shop I can find the best price for the best grass ... I've allready heard about
    the Picasso green,please send some morte addresses.

thanks in advance.
          damus.
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:38 PST
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Brands of LSD
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:58:27 GMT

djh@osc.edu (David Heisterberg) writes:
>can be slightly higher.  I suppose it's possible that there is
>synthetic mescaline available, but I'd bet that it's LSD.  Remember
>when people sold PCP as THC?

Yup.  Its one of those things that I'd only believe it if you showed me the
NMR of it... 

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
Subject: Re: Jesus, Drugs, & Me
Organization: t.b, t.p.d, & a.d
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:17:06 GMT

Danny (drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov16.224723.2368@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, degroomp@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
[ I didn't see the original article, and can't comment on it. ]

: > No offence to you Dan, but obviously you have never taken LSD... I am speaking
: > as a recovering drug addict and abuser... It is extremely difficult
: > to determine Reality from fantasy while the fire hydrant on the 
: > corner turns into a large green and red dragon which begins to
: > breath fire on you.  Now that I am sober I find it much easier to beleive
: > that this dragon was merely a figment of my imagination and NOT
: > a miracle from God... However, giving you some credit it IS 
: > possible that this dragon was a message from God that I should
: > have quit drugs and lead a "religiuos" life... However, I realized
: > how fucked up I was through RATIONALITY... I was broke fixed on
: > various substances and my life was shit.
: > 			Matt 
: 
: Comments anyone?
: -- Danny
  Some people probably shouldn't take LSD, because it affects them badly.
It sounds like this guy was sensible enough to figure that out.  Some 
people shouldn't take certain other drugs either; I'm assuming since he uses
the term "addict" and "various substances" that he was doing other stuff 
and having a hard time controlling his behavior.  I personally think it's
unfortunate that he needs to immediately turn to religion; probably that's
a sign that there are other things going way wrong in his life that were
predisposing him to turn to heavy drug use in the first place. 
  I strongly recommend therapy for anyone who has got the guts to face the
idea that they may not be perfect the way they are.  It's very unfortunate
that the idea of going into any kind of therapy or counseling has such a
stigma attached to it in our society.
  It is also unfortunate that he seems to think that everyone will have the
same kind of experience he did.  However, this seems to be a common human
delusion, equally prevalent among the "Drugs are hell, I know" folks and
the "Acid makes everyone happy and peaceful, just like me" folks.
  -- Clifton

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From: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: What is Periactin?
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:03:44 GMT
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.5.23

In article <jon.taylor.40.721950104@uuserv.cc.utah.edu> jon.taylor@uuserv.cc.utah.edu (JON M. TAYLOR) writes:

>	Hi.  A friend of mine who has (from what I understand) some kind of 
>obsessional disorder was in an institution some time back, and they gave her 
>something called Periactin (sp?).  We are curious as to what exactly this 
>stuff is.  Thanks for any help.

I have some in the fridge at home - it was prescribed as an appetite 
stimulant for my young son a couple of years ago. I'll quote from the label 
if anyone's interested...

--
Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au         This post made from 100% recycled electrons.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: <None>
From: delsanto@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:41:15 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University


I think people doing acid for the first time must be outside.  The 
best place to be is around nature with big trees and streams of 
water.  Being on acid in natural surroundings made me realize how 
beautiful our environment is and how bad we have screwed it up.  
Being on acid also made me realize that it is wrong to take nature for 
granted and that people should take care of the environment. By doing 
acid in nature, you see the true beauty of the surroundings even if you 
are on delic drugs.  Someone suggested watching movies on Acid.  This 
is probably the worst thing to do.  Walking around outside is much 
more interesting than watching T.V..  Plus being outside makes the 
trip so much better and you see much more colors and other objects 
which makes the visual part of acid better.
From: pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Hmm.  Smart Drink info requested
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:48:52 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

I guess this fits in okay here in good ol' alt.drugs.

I haven't followed here in a looong time so I might have missed a lot of discussions already, but is there any site or person with archives of smart drink recipes?  I'm looking for some for a few parties we have once in awhile.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure)
Subject: Acid consumption
Reply-To: saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:47:40 GMT


I know a FOAF who has taken appr. 60 LSD tablets in a period
of 3 years. I'd like to tap the wisdom of this newsgroup and 
ask the following:

(1) In comparaison with other LSD users, is this FOAF drug usage
    above normal? Can we say he is abusing the drug? What is the 
    average acid consumption for a user from your experience?

(2) His peak consumption dates to about 5 years ago. Since then,
    he only took a couple (5 or so). He did not experience any 
    flashbacks at all. Should he expect secondary effects (flashbacks,
    schizophrenia,...) in the years to come due to past LSD usage?

-- 

 Signed,                 "You must never sleep, never daydream,    
   Roch Saumure.             never be without a vital thought and     
                                never have an open mind, then you shall  
                                   be protected from the forces of Magic."   


DISCLAIMER: All opinions expressed are my own.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter F. Couvares)
Subject: Re: acid and sickness
Organization: Amherst College
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:44:55 GMT

v055rylr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amy Pascale) writes:
[...]
>	this weekend, two friends and i were tripping, and one of them got
>really sick. he equated it with being drunk, that it was as if his body was
>trying to "throw up" the acid, as it would throw up alcohol. although he had
>nothing in his stomach, he continued to have dry heaves and general naeusea
>for about an hour, maybe more. we've all done it quite a bit, and i have never
>heard or seen anyone else have this problem. also, no one else has gotten sick
>when tripping on this stuff. any ideas?

	Nausea from LSD is not unusual, and my suspicion is it's due
more to anxiety or tense-ness than it is to anything "in" the acid.

-Peter

pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter Couvares)
From: drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Danny)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Tolerance?
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:15:46 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <1992Nov18.132705.8815@iscsvax.uni.edu>, wiskow1346@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>     Is there a tolerance built from marijuana? From my experience I have not
> experienced that, but I have heard different things from people I know and
> conflicting facts from "offical" groups. Also I've always believed in a
> tolerance to LSD [ I haven't done it enough to notice ], but some of my friends
> say it is mostly psychological. What do you think?



For LSD, and most all of the hallucinogens, I believe tolerance comes
fast, (can't trip the second day unless you double the dosage), and
leaves fast, (same effects after three days of abstinence.)


As for marijuana, I have noticed a substantial reverse tolerance.
After a few years of near daily use and then a period of abstinence, 
I noticed that only very little smoke was needed to get me high.
Nice in some respects, overbearing in others.

I would like to hear of others with similar/dissimilar experiences.


-- Dan
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:18623 talk.politics.drugs:7512
From: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Jesus, Drugs, & Me
Date: 20 Nov 1992 17:14:17 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Danny) writes:

>In article <1992Nov16.224723.2368@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, degroomp@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:

} 
}} No offence to you Dan, but obviously you have never taken LSD... I am speaking
}} as a recovering drug addict and abuser... It is extremely difficult
}} to determine Reality from fantasy while the fire hydrant on the 
}} corner turns into a large green and red dragon which begins to
}} breath fire on you.  Now that I am sober I find it much easier to beleive
}} that this dragon was merely a figment of my imagination and NOT
}} a miracle from God... However, giving you some credit it IS 
}} possible that this dragon was a message from God that I should
}} have quit drugs and lead a "religiuos" life... However, I realized
}} how fucked up I was through RATIONALITY... I was broke fixed on
}} various substances and my life was shit.
}} 
}} 
}} 			Matt 
}-- 


}The text above was posted by a student to one of our local newsgroups.

}Comments anyone?

The person had other problems. I would have enjoyed the experience
he had (assuming I could have it without his emotional state. I
have abused alcohol, but I have never thought I abused LSD or
some other drugs I have taken. I think the author of the post
was over-generalising (which might explain why his LSD experiences
were bad -- a healthy scepticism is good for LSD use). If he
needs to do that to stay sane right now, good for him. I would
not generalise his experience to others.

-- 
John Collier 			Email: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   61+3 344 7959
Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Re: Info needed on Spanish Fly !!!!!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:04:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.022156.4714@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
3)  There is Spurious Spainish
>Fly, and the powerful Placebo Spanish Fly, two aids of legendary potency
>which some netters will gladly sell you for a more than fair price. 
>
Don't forget faux Spanish Fly.

--
Bruce Watson  wats@nyx.cs.du.edu  Toy Cows, Toy Cows in Africa, Toy Cows
From: raa@guild.socal.com (Raa Lopez)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:51:11 PST
Organization: TheGuild[FTS]

My favorite acid Song ... Okay ... one of My faves is Rush's Live By-Tor and the Snow Dog from "Life's a Stage" ... and Another good Acid Song IMHO HAS to bee "One Rainy Wish" from Axis: Bold as Love ...

    __ ___ ________/\_____  ___ ___ ___ ___ ___
    \//___\\__  ___/\____/\/__//__//__//__//__/\
 ____//__//\\/ /\__\/\___\/\__\\__\\__\\__\\__\/ raa@guild.socal.com
/________/ //_/ / DigiT.W.I.T. Ink. UnLtd. '92! Wheeze Bee JPL!!!
\________\/ \_\/  Pffffttt!!!...Pop!!!...Bang!!!.....Etc.!!!?

--- Via UCI v1.16 (C-Net Amiga)


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jclannom@mathlab.mtu.edu (Joe Lannom)
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Reply-To: jclannom@mathlab.mtu.edu (Joe Lannom)
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:49:12 GMT

Todd Endicott writes
> 
> Give "Brazil" a try. Directed (written also?) by Terry Gilliam, the
> animator for Monty Python. Utter, out-and-out madness and mindfuck.
> -- 
> Todd Endicott
> tendico@hubcap.clemson.edu					 "Yow!"

You should also check out "The Five Thousand Fingers of Dr. T".  Its the only  
live action Dr. Seuss movie ever made.... the sets are DEFINATELY something to  
see.
 
joe				|   "Don't ever do that again!"
jclannom@mathlab.mtu.edu	|   "Shhh.... here comes another one..."  
 
"If God had meant us to run around naked all day, 
we would have been born that way!"