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From: camps@ruth.ece.psu.edu (Octavia Camps)
Subject: Re: GSD Heeling problem
Organization: The Pennsylvania State University, State College
Distribution: USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:05:15 GMT

>
>What is Max' agressiveness problem?  That worries me more than his
>heeling problem.  The trainer was right, a pinch collar can increase
>aggression in some dogs.  It depends on the problem.  Is the problem
>agressiveness, dominance or possibly fear aggression?  
>
>Karen
>
>

Ok, this is the problem:

He has been always kind of a biter. In the beginning, he would
even snap. It always started as a very playful puppy, that lost
control and became serious. If you corrected him: saying loud NO,
or shaking him by under the ears, he would come back snapping,
growling, and all the "dominant" stuff. Had lots of bruces on
my arm for some time. :(
Also when we go for walks,  sometimes (very often) he decides that
he does not like the person passing by, and launches towards
the person with a face not friendly at all.

Now he has become much better, much more like the sweetheart
I wanted. I think I have won the dominance contest, although
he likes to challenge me from time to time. 

The problem I referred in my first message is this: we went
to obedience class (he started when he was about 3 months old,
maybe too young?) and he learned how to heel, sit, down and
stay. He was never the best in the class, on the contrary,
he was always making a big fuss, and even snapped at the
trainer once or twice. But, as he matured, he has improved. He
behaves fine at home (we train in the basement), and whenever
we are either in quiet streets or in a very crowded sidewalk.
He still is not friendly to people passing by, if nobody else
is around. He can also choke to death if we are walking back home.
He wont heel then. I *know* you are supposed to pull and release,
but with his strength he does not let you much room for that!

BUT what worries me most is the following: I live on a street with 
heavy, fast traffic. Everytime we go out, we launches against the cars,
the same way he does with people he does not like. Sometimes,
when I pull back, he will snap to the closest thing to his mouth:
my knee. Also he weights 67lb now and he is becoming harder to 
restrain. To the point that I am scare of being run over
by a car.

It is only half block from my house to a quiet park where we go
to play, but is a VERY dangerous half block! I need to be able to
control him as soon as possible. Thanks!!!!

Sorry it got too long.

Octavia



Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: rasmussenc@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu
Subject: Update on Names beginning with B needed...
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:16:45 GMT

Hi netters --

Thought I'd first thank you all for your wonderful suggestions --
I had quite a few responses!  We narrowed the field down to:
Baylor, Bogart, Brady, and Briar, but have decided to go with Brix.
(Even though its only one syllable, and sounds a bit similar to Sit....)

Thanx again and happy netting!

-Chris R
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: martin@biostat.washington.edu (Don Martin)
Subject: Re: Doggie hair out of fabric/upholstery?
Summary:  refridgerator and dog hair
Organization: Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Univ. of Wash.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:58:18 GMT

On refridgeraters and dog hair. An expensive but good solution.
We now have a SubZero. The heat exchanger is over six feet
above the floor and reachable by removing a panel. This seems
to have cured the hair in the heat exchanger problem.

I can confirm a previous post. The Black and Decker? Dustbuster
was a flop in picking up hair. 

There are three types hair pickup brushes that work pretty well:

the cloth surface with a one way knap. You brush one direction to
pick up hair and the other way to take it off of the brush.
Good for clothing and small areas.

A brass wire brush that is pretty good for small areas. In
the distant past, I bought a few from Fuller.

A 12 inch wide brush with either a short hollow handle in the
middle at right angles to the brush, like a window washing
squeegee. I has stiff plastic bristles with a slight wave.
My is made by :

Master Steccone Products Co.
Oakland CA

With a long handle, you can save your back a bit.

I now try to avoid the loose hair problem as much as
possible:

I test clothing for hair attraction before buying. I take
a bundle of Old English Sheepdog hair with me when
shopping. Pure wool, pure cotton and (ugh) pre polyester
are usually pretty good. Dacron/wool and polyester/wool is
usually trouble.

Use antistatic sprays etc.

We tried to choose a grey carpet with mixed shades that didn't
seem to attract our hair samples as much as the other carpets.
This was a big improvement but I am still looking for a better
floor cover.

We have been gradually replacing all our ulpolstered furnature
with leather. Another short term expensive solution. In the
long term it may be cheaper. A good leather chair or couch seems
to last forever. We have an 18 year old leather couch that has been
a favorite spot for generations of dogs and people alike and it still
looks good.

Sheepskin seat covers for cars work well. Ditto for throwing a 
sheepskin over that old cloth covered arm chair with the non
removable muddy footprints.

Some vacuum cleaners are quickly jammed by long hair. We have
a dud built in vacuum that requires me to dismantle the
beater head and pick the hair out of the bearings. Our old
Hoover upright didn't have this problem.

If you have further tips, please send them to me or post them.

Don Martin   Widdershins Old English Sheepdogs
From: mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Hardwood Floors and Dogs
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:31:22 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: pacman.wpi.edu

In article <1992Dec17.222315.8779@inel.gov> kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook) writes:
>We're remodeling our older house and would like to remove the carpet and
>refinish the hardwood floors.  My only concern is how this might affect 
>my dogs.  They love to run and chase each other all over the house and
>I'm worried that the new floors will be to slick and they may hurt themselves.

They'll learn.  They won't hurt themselves too much, but they will 
learn that the floor is slippery and will calm down.

>I also once heard that slick floors can agravate/cause? hip dysplasia.

Dysplasia is genetic, so bag that.  Aggravate it, maybe, just
because they do have to run differently.  They can walk very well
on hardwood floorw.

>I've also heard that the dogs may scratch the floors although I keep their
>nails trimmed back. Does anyone have experience with dogs on hardwoods is
>this a bad idea?

Well, my floors have needed to be re-done since about 6 months after
acquiring the Siegmonster.   If you want pristene hardwood floors, get
rid of the dogs.  If you want the dogs and don't care about the floors, 
go ahead.   If you don't want to deal, keep the carpets and the dogs.
(Personally, the next house will be CARPETED.)

Margaret




Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: GSD Heeling problem
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:08:24 GMT

> Octavia Camps writes:
> I got a suggestion to use a pinch collar.
>
> I asked in the past to the trainer if she thought that a pinch collar
> could help (Yes, Max does not care for choking either), but she said
> that it would increase the already high agressiveness of Max ...
> Did anybody out there experience any of the like?


It might help us to know exactly what IS your heeling problem?


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From: scott@borg.wyle.ingr.com (G. Scott Downey)
Subject: Nutro Max -- Good or Bad?
Reply-To: scott@borg.wyle.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Huntsville, Alabama
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:46:03 GMT

I've recently switched dog foods to Nutro-Max and have been
feeding the amounts specified on the bag.  Prior to my switch,
my vet had told me that the dogs were the perfect size -- not
too fat or thin.  Now that I've switched, the boys eat more
eagerly, but are dropping weight.  Should I increase the 
amount that I feed?  Should I trash this Nutro Max stuff and
go back to my old brand?

All advice solicited.

			G. Scott Downey
			Moses' Daddy (RottMonster)
			Job's Daddy Too (Lab)

P.S.  If it makes any difference, it's the lamb/rice 
      formula of Nutro Max.  Thanks.  G.S.D.
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From: liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Nutro Max -- Good or Bad?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 20:31:31 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

I feed the Nutro Natural Choice food (which is NutroMax's lamb and rice).
My dogs get the following:

74 lb, 3yo, male Labrador Retriever:  4 cups of food twice a day.
69 lbs, 5 yo, bitch Labrador Retriever and 
66 lbs, 9 mo, bitch Labrador Retriever: 2 cups of food in am and
					4 cups of food in pm.

On this diet, they all maintain their weights nicely.  The puppy is growing
steadily but not too quickly.  The girls tend to put on weight very easily
and the boy tends to be very hard to put weight on.  I'd like to see more
weight on him but he's eating all he will.

My advice is to play with the amounts of food and find the ones that work.
Anytime you switch foods there will be a period of adjustment.

Good luck,

Liza

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From: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re:  Snow Dogs
Date: 16 Dec 1992 14:42:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


This is Digory - I'm a Pembroke corgi.  I love to make snow dogs too but
I really get frustrated in the summer.  Mummy gives me these wonderful 
little cold blocks out of the room that holds all the cold 
food in the house.  Often I'm not in the mood to chew them and take them
to my storage area and hide them. I try to cover them so they won't get
stolen but when I want them later in the day all that is there is a wet 
spot on the floor.

My people laugh at me as I try to find my little cold blocks.  Luckily
they aren't as dumb as most people and they do and get me another which
I quickly chew.

Better go now Mummy doesn't know I'm using her account and she might
have work to do.

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From: jhill@sierra.com (Julie Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: allergies
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:55:52 GMT
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa

After a year of having my Bloodhound off and on Prednisone, I finally had
allergy tests done on her.  I found out that she's allergic to wheat, rice,
corn, soybeans, and several pollens and molds.  I am going to start a desensi-
tization program with her (injections) for the inhaled allergens, and need to
change dogfoods for the food allergens.  The problem is that all of the dogfoods
that I know of use one of the above grains as their base.  She is not allergic
to barley or potatoes (don't know about oats), chicken, beef, fish, lamb, or
pork (with the proteins, she showed the lowest response to lamb and pork.)  So
the question for you people out in r.p.d land is, do you know of any commercial-
ly available dogsfoods that use barley or potatoes as it base?

Thanks,
Julie

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: shari@modcomp.uucp (Shari Bernhard)
Subject: Re: DOGS & CATS
Organization: MODCOMP, an AEG company
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:52:18 GMT

IOC0008@MVS.UDEL.EDU (KATHY) writes:

>I need help!  I have a three year old very spoiled black
>Lab mix who I love dearly.  My husband wants to adopt
>a kitten and I don't know if this could work.  Has
>any body ever done it & if so how?

When I got married, my husband moved with his four cats into my house with
me and my 9 year old 70 lb Lab/Shepherd mix.  The cats are declawed indoor
cats who've never seen a dog and Raven was a cat-hater.  In order to avoid
the carnage which we thought would follow our union, we separated the
house into the dog-side and the cat-side by putting up a folding door in
the hallway between the living area and master bedroom and the other two
bedrooms and guest bath.  The dog-side has a dog-door which allows Raven
to go out at will; in the cat-side we installed a cat-door leading out to
the garage where the litter boxes and food is.  (No car, though.)

We came home from work one day and to our horror we saw White One sitting
haughtily on the couch ("Thought you could stop me, eh?  HAH!") and Raven
laying in her usual spot guarding our bedroom door.  The folding door was
open a cat-width and Gray One was peering at us from behind it.  White
One figured out how to open the folding door and courageously (stupidly?)
staked out her place in the living room.  Why there weren't kitty-guts
all over was a mystery, but after observing the interaction between Raven
and White One we saw what happens.  Raven makes a jump at the cat with a 
fearsome "RRURF".  White One stands her ground, hisses and bats the dog
on the head real fast with a clawless paw.  Raven backs up, turns around,
and goes back to her spot.  If it ain't runnin', it ain't no fun!

By the end of 6 months, 3 of the 4 cats roam at will, and occasionally one
of the cats will drink from Raven's water bowl at the same time Raven is
eating right next to it!  One kitty is still a bit leery of the dog, and
Raven gets a hoot doing her "RRURF" thing at her just to see her run!
No harm has ever come to any of them.

My advice is to keep them separated when no one is around and supervise
their interaction when you're home.  They will eventually become great
friends.  I wouldn't have believed that myself until I saw it.  Good Luck!

Shari (Raven's Mom) Bernhard
(Also step-mom to Gray One, White One, Little One, and Cassandra)
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Mutts vs. Purebreds
Date: 13 Dec 1992 07:29:48 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Todd Wallace (twallace@gmuvax2.gmu.edu) wrote: : Just recently I read an
article about the dogs that police and : sheriffs in my area (Wash. DC and
Arlington VA) use.  It said : that police generally prefer European-bred
shepherds because : they are not as overbred for size. 

: Anyone this theory before?  ANd does the shorter lifespan of a
: purebred vs a mixed breed have to do with careless overbreeding?
 
One of the problems with German Shepherd is the emphasis on size.
As the owner of a GSD with fine hips and appropriate size, I found it
to be a problem to find a dog for stud service.  Why?  Because I wanted
a sound dog of moderate size.  I have had more people ask me if Gaia
is small for a GSD.  At 24 inches and 75 pounds, she is right to the
top of the standard.  I finally found a dog who met my requirements.
When we had our puppies, I was asked the following questions by
prospective buyers "Are they going to be big?" "Are they going to be
mean? I want a guard dog."  I did my best to educate people, and turned down
a few people.  All of my pups went into family homes.  Some may show, I don't
care.  Max was from Schutzhund lines, Gaia from mixed conformation and
obedience.  Gaia and all of her pups show herding instinct.  

The shorter lifespan of the purebred vs. the mix is a bit of a fallacy.
Some are, some are not.  The best indicator of lifespan seems to be
general size.  That is giant breeds don't usually live as long as medium
size breeds, and there are very few giant or even large mixes.  Remember,
in any dog, the genes are only as good as those available.  People are 
more aware of hip dysplasia in GSDs than in many other breeds which have
higher incidence.  This is because there has at least been some effort
at control.  

I have a mixed breed as well as Gaia.  Random (Numbers) is probably
dysplastic.  She will be 2 this month, and shows signs of hip problems.
I will have her radiographed next month.  Gaia has clean hips.
Gaia was the result of careful breeding.  Random was not.  Not all
purebreds have problems, not all mutts are healthy.

Karen, Gaia and Random

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: wet, muddy, snowy dogs
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:06:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.102933.542@news.wesleyan.edu>,
RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg) wrote:
> 
> Several dogs have posted here about how much fun it is to get all wet and muddy
> and snowy.  I hope all their companion-people have taught them the command
> "SHAKE."  This has nothing to do with the parlor-trick of pretending to shake
> hands (paws).  This is the command that tells the dog to shake himself off
> before he comes in the door.  I have always taught all my dogs this, ever since
> I can remember.  Taught a few neighbors' dogs this command, too, as I recall.
> (Also teach the command "WIPE WHISKERS" to dogs with long ears or furry faces,
> like Buffy, my Cocker Spaniel.)
> 
> "SHAKE" is a very easy command to teach:
> 	Start by saying "SHAKE" whenever you see the dog shaking himself off. 
>FURTHER INSTRUCTION ON THE "SHAKE" COMMAND DELETED

I found another way to get them to shake themselves off so that you can
start teaching them the command.  I start teaching my kids to shake off
after 
a bath so that most of the water lands in the tub and bathroom (as opposed
to
the dining room where my grooming table is set up).  Now, this is messy
for us humans, but if you're like me, you're almost as wet as the dog when
you're finished with a good doggy bath (and after bathing 3 or 4 of them
your
whole body is pruney :-) anyway.  While they're still in the tub, bend over
them 
and blow in their ear (WARNING: do not do this while a Johnny Mathis song
is 
on the radio....it may lead to a bizarre undesireable bonding with your
dog)....
this will set off the shake reflex, so be ready to give them the shake
command 
(I also recommend jumping back out of "spray range" if at all possible).  

If you have a SO that doesn't really understand your relationship with your
dogs, 
or sometimes feels like you "love the dogs more than you love him/her" 
(*god forbid*) I strongly suggest you close the bathroom door before doing
this 
so as not to get caught blowing in Rover's ear :-).

I'm sure this method would work outside for shaking off snow too....but
beware
of the neighbors !!   I personally don't worry about mine, they already
KNOW
I'm crazy ;-)

Christmas Cattle Dog Kisses and Holiday Heeler Hugs to all !!
Kathy
========================
Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs - Home of Oreo, Yonder, Double Stuff, Rowdy 
and 7 adorable little ACD monsters that are (thankfully) "just visiting"
!!!
Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Snow Dogs
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:25:00 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs

In article <kathy_buetow-161292093433@physio103-1.life.uiuc.edu>, kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow) writes:
> 
> Hee-hee-hee.......This is the Stuffy-Monster here.  Mom went out for a
> potty 

  
> I decided to follow up an Kelly's message because we are also here in
> Champaign.  
> 
> Mom later explained that the ice was "Further North" right now and maybe, 
> just maybe if we were good little dogs, Santa would bring us more snow and 
> ice for Christmas.  We're trying *soooooooo* hard to be good but it's
> difficult 
> to ALWAYS be good when you're a Cattle Dog !!!
> 
> Two Questions (I hope you all can help me here):  
> 
> 1)  Where *exactly* is "Further, North" ?  (I figure it must be one of
> those
> Canadian Provinces because I couldn't even find a State called "North" on
> the
> map.)
> 
> 2)  Does Santa really see *everything* we do ?  


Hello Stuffy:

This is Tristan, the Irish Setter who owns Holly.  Since we dogs are
using the net (but I'm having a REALLY hard time hitting these keys
with my paws!!!), I thought I would introduce myself, since it looks
like we might be meeting in person next week!  Let me warn you, if 
you jump on me and try to play, I will just get agitated and start
wagging and barking.  But maybe I can share some of the knowledge I
have gained in my 11.5 years on the planet.

"Up North" is kind of a figure of speech.  It could refer to a number
of states, including the one I grew up in, Iowa.  Sometimes it gets
real cold there (sometimes it gets real cold in Champaign -- I've
lived there too -- but you're probably too young to remember).  Now
here's something real funny to do.  Make friends with a nice profes-
sional handler, and then INSIST that the 2 of you go to shows on the
Florida circuit in January.  My friend Jan and I did that one year.
We went to Disneyworld and St. Petersburg and had a lot of fun in
the sun.  Meanwhile Mom was back in Iowa where the wind chills were
60 below!  Heeheehee!  Jan helped me send Mom postcards about all
the fun we were having, which my grandpa tells me made her more
grumpy.

Now about Santa, maybe I should tell you the truth......

Oops!  Mom's been grading papers, and she doesn't look happy!  I 
better go cheer her up.

- Mister Tristan
From: prkenne@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP)
Subject: Re: Opinions on dog sleeping arrangements
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 14 Dec 1992 11:49 EST  

In article <1992Dec10.205521.9393@cattnts.canada.ncr.com>, sal@cattnts.canada.ncr.com (Sal Magnone) writes...
>I would like to know your opinion on pets sleeping in the same room as their 
>owners.  I have read different views on this subject and would like to learn of
>some first hand experience on this subject.
> 
>Please include do's and dont's on the subject.

Both our dog and our cat sleep in our room with us and we have had no 
problems.  When we brought the puppy home we used a crate to housebreak him 
and at night simply brought it in the room with us.  Once he was 
housebroken we pulled his blanket out of the crate and laid it on the floor 
next to our bed.  Since we didn't want him to get into things at night we 
used hooks on our door and doorjamb and a connecting chain to keep the door 
ajar enough for the cat to come and go but not the dog.  Now, six months 
later the dog is so used to sleeping in the same spot that he will 
automatically lie down on or near his blanket and stay there all night 
unless he needs to go out.  

The cat, being a cat, sleeps wherever he pleases which is often on our bed 
with us.  

Carol