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From: willis@oracle.SCG.HAC.COM (Stan Willis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Quebec Nord question
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:42:48 GMT
Reply-To: willis@empire.dnet.hac.com (Stan Willis)
Organization: none

In article <l7098eINNcl8@nunki.usc.edu> grenier@nunki.usc.edu (Adrian Grenier) writes:
>I am a lonely Nord fan here in So. Cal. If anyone could tell me the phone 
>number and/or address of the Nordiques gift shop or wherever it is in Quebec
>that I could get all sorts of Nordique paraphernalia. I don't know if it is 
>in Le Colisee or what, but I would appreciated any help, 
>				Thanks,
>					AD


Adrian,

Try contacting the Nordiques at:

2205 Ave du Colisee
Quebec City, Quebec
Canada  G1L 4W7

(418) 529-8441

net contact: L.A. Kings


Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: lavergne@bcarh787.bnr.ca (Marc Lavergne)
Subject: Michel "Bunny" Larocque dead at age 40.
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:32:37 GMT

I am sad to announce that Bunny Larocque died yesterday
at the very young age of 40. His death was caused by 
skin cancer. Sadly enough, he found out he had skin
cancer only 3 months ago. It was already too late. 

He leaves behind his wife and 3 children.

I believe he played 7 years for the Habs. Perhaps someone
could post his lifetime stats.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Subject: Re: Most impressive arena?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:49:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.145408.27757@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.105645.17707@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> kirchner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Robert Kirchner) writes:
>>
>>Which is the most fascinating, most impressive arena for watching a NHL game?
>>
>>Don't rank by home team, but criterias like noise made by cheering fans,
>>support when team plays not very well, show, entertainment before the game
>>starts and during breaks, music, architecture, tradition, ...
>>
>
>If you have to see one hockey game anywhere in the world...that place is
>the Montreal Forum.  
>
>Gerald
>
   This is reaching a little since Milwaukee doesn't even have an NHL team
   yet, but the Bradley Center is a great place to see a hockey game. I've
   seen all three of the Wisconsin Badger Hockey Showdowns (probably the best
   college hockey tournament around) and the place has been rocking every   
   time.

   Being about a three-year-old building, the Bradley Center obviously has no
   tradition to speak of, but it is a beautiful made-for-hockey arena. In
   absolute truth, there are no bad seats (I didn't buy my tickets for the
   first showdown until gametime and was sitting in the nosebleed seats ;)

   I've also read that almost every coach and player that has played here,
   including pro teams such as the Blackhawks, Oilers, Kings, etc has
   commented that the Bradley Center was one of the best buildings they had
   ever played in. 

   --Salty
From: p_emond@pavo.concordia.ca (PATRICK EMOND)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Rogie Vachon...
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:11:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


   Rogatien (Rogie) Vachon died Wednesday of cancer, he was 40. He had only
recently learned of his condition, he was rumored to be the Ottawa Senators'
choice for goaltending coach (Glenn 'Chico' Resch got the job). My Kings
jacket and goalie stick are at half-mast...

********************************************************************************
Patrick Emond     *'...Odelein's got the puck behind his net, skates out...he's
Concordia U.      * at center, picking up steam...in the Hawks zone splits the
Montreal, Can.    * defense makes a move on Belfour HE SCORES!!!! Unbelievable!'
********************************************************************************
From: grenier@nunki.usc.edu (Adrian Grenier)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Quebec Nord question
Date: 24 Jul 1992 08:43:10 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nunki.usc.edu

I am a lonely Nord fan here in So. Cal. If anyone could tell me the phone 
number and/or address of the Nordiques gift shop or wherever it is in Quebec
that I could get all sorts of Nordique paraphernalia. I don't know if it is 
in Le Colisee or what, but I would appreciated any help, 
				Thanks,
					AD
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: mjl31920@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gangster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Most impressive arena?
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:54:56 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:

>   Being about a three-year-old building, the Bradley Center obviously has no
>   tradition to speak of, but it is a beautiful made-for-hockey arena. In


Wasn't the Bradley Center made for basketball (Bucks and Marquette Warriors)?
Or is this your way of saying it is more than suitable for hockey?


-- 
Felix "The Gangster of Love" Madera 		 madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
============================================================================
President of the Van Earl Wright Fan Club          Part-time wifey nurse...
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down)
Subject: Re: They've moved the Gardens?? (was Re: MLG phone number?)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:00:51 GMT

CZ94000 <CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA> writes:

>In article <92Jul23.173933edt.166@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down) writes:
>>Anyway the Gardens is at 60 College Steet
>>
>College Street???  You mean the Gardens is now *WEST* of Yonge?

Yup!

>When did they move it? 

It was a couple of years ago, actually.

>And how? 

Ballard was still alive, so they just shut the doors, asked him why
the Soviets were such excellent hockey players and hot air did the rest.

>When I lived in Toronto, MLG was at 60 Carlton Street.

C'mon Tom. That was years ago. Stay with the tour....

>Tom Box
>CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA

Seriously, as I've explained to the many people who sent me
mail, called and dropped by my office, "My mistake. It's
60 Carlton." (For those unfamiliar with the Toronto area,
Carlton undergoes a name change as it crosses Yonge St.and
becomes College.

Brian Down (bdown@vis.toronto.edu)

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: std_gibson@hg.uleth.ca (Jason Gibson)
Subject: Re: SHARKS NEWS: Sergei Makarov signed to offer sheet
Reply-To: std_gibson@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:02:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.024955.7683@news.columbia.edu>, gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>kjgriffi@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kevin John Griffith) writes:
>>claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>>>The Sharks announced Monday that they have signed right winger 
>>>Sergei Makarov, 34, who spent the last three years with the 
>>>Calgary Flames, to an offer sheet.
>>
>>Don't expect to see Makarov in a Sharks uniform next season.
>
>Rumours we heard around here last season (or through Bob Mackenzie
>of TSN) were that Makarov was offered to the Leafs along with half
>his salary covered, but the Leafs refused because he was known as
>a malcontent (or, maybe Doug Gilmour gave a bad reference ...). I'd
>say chances might be good that Sergei could end up in the Bay Area.
>
>gld
>--

I have to agree with Kevin here. Makarov was one of the only positive things
that Calgary had going toward the end of the year (along with Roberts of
course!). The other night on a local TV sports show, one of the hosts remarked 
that Calgary has to match the offer. I agree that Calgary desperately needs to
do so.

Jason
Calgary needs to keep its Makarov.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: cal2d@csissun11.ee.Virginia.EDU (Craig Allen Lorie)
Subject: ROLLER HOCKEY IN CHARLOTTESVILLE
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: uva.general,rec.sport.hockey
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:43:43 GMT

ROLLER HOCKEY IN CHARLOTTESVILLE!!!!

Can you believe it?  That's right, ROLLER HOCKEY IN C'VILLE.  It's just 
absolutely amazing!!  A couple of us graduate students here at UVa petitioned 
the IM department for the creation of a new club for the purpose of playing
roller hockey.  And to our amazement, they went for it.  The condition, of 
course, is that we provide them with an adequate number of interested people in
order to justify the creation of this new club.  So all of you hockey fans out
there who haven't had an opportunity to play since you came down here, come 
join the newly created Roller Hockey Club.

All people are welcome.  All levels of play are welcome.  Skaters using both
Roller Blades (in-line skates) and Conventional Roller Skates (quads) are 
welcome.  In other words, the more the merrier.  And the more support we get
the greater the likelihood that this club will come into existence.

Anyone interested in joining the club is urged to contact me at 
cal2d@virginia.edu or Rich Price at rjp2z@virginia.edu.

We look forward to hearing from you!!
Thanks for your support!

Sincerely,
Craig Lorie
cal2d@virginia.edu
From: zeke@meadow.uucp (Samuel Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: MLG phone number?
Keywords: main number or gift/pro shop
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:05:27 GMT
Reply-To: zeke@meadow.UUCP (Samuel Lee)
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Canada Ltd., Software Development Center

In article <1992Jul23.184320.30971@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>
>Could someone provide me with the phone number for Maple Leaf Gardens.  If
>you have a number for the gift/pro shop, could you send it along?

The number is:  (416) 977-1641.

-- Zeke.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: stoikos@trooa.enet.dec.com (Tom Stoikos)
Subject: Re: MLG phone number?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: 23 JUL 92 16:34:11    


In article <1992Jul23.184320.30971@cs.cmu.edu>, lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes...
> 
>Could someone provide me with the phone number for Maple Leaf Gardens.  If
>you have a number for the gift/pro shop, could you send it along?
> 
>Thanks in advance,
>Lori
> 
		Maple Leaf Gardens - 416-977-1641
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: CZ94000 <CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: They've moved the Gardens?? (was Re: MLG phone number?)
Organization: McGill University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:21:38 GMT

In article <92Jul23.173933edt.166@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down) writes:
>Anyway the Gardens is at 60 College Steet
>
College Street???  You mean the Gardens is now *WEST* of Yonge?
When did they move it?  And how?  When I lived in Toronto, MLG
was at 60 Carlton Street.

Tom Box
CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Most impressive arena?
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:09:15 GMT

In article 16470@uwm.edu, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>   This is reaching a little since Milwaukee doesn't even have an NHL team
>   yet
    ^^^
    Hope springs eternal, eh?


---
gak
107/H/3&4

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Re: Renegotiation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:51:23 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <EePex5e00WBM41SJ4l@andrew.cmu.edu> Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Daryl Turner writes:
>
>>The point Anna was trying to make is that after one or two good years, you
>>see athletes demanding to re-negotiate a SIGNED contract, because they
>>are now seen as worth more than when they originally signed that deal.

>Yes, this is pretty much what I meant.  What if the Pens renegotiate
>with Jagr and give him $850,000 next year and he has a lousy year?
>If he simply must be rewarded for a great performance last year perhaps
>some kind of bonus could be entered into his existing contract -- and
>ONLY IF he continues to excel at that.

I know this is what you meant.   I see nothing wrong with renegotiating a
signed contract.   Granted, there is a risk involved.  The player may be
a bust.  He could also be great.

Say the Pens renegotiate Jagr's contract and give him $850,000 next year
and he has a great year.   Or say he has a bad year next year, but his 
next 2 years (assuming the length of the contract is 3 years) are fantastic.
Then the renegotiation wouldn't look seem so bad.

And people are going to bitch about player salaries whether players renegotiate
or honor their contract.  Samuelsson, Francis, Stevens and Recchi all honored
their old contracts, and dealt with the club when they became free agents. 
And every one of them at some point this season has taken heat for "not 
playing up to the money they're earning."  (I've thrown some heat Stevens'
way about this.)

Players are in a no win situation as far as salaries go.  No matter how
they go about getting the big bucks, to many they are going to look like
selfish, greedy people.

>I agree with Lori that if I was a player in a position such as Jagr on
>Bonds I'd try to get whatever I could, too.  I've said this myself many
>times when this discussion has surfaced.  The players are working
>within a system which allows them to operate this way. Chances are, Lori,
>you have not worked in such a system.  Most people don't, and that is
>the difference.  The people you've worked with probably never got 100%
>pay raises either.

No, but they have gotten significant raises, and have not worked up to that
level.  For the system they work in, they have gotten big raises, and have
produced beneath the level expected of them.  But they haven't had their pay
cut, or been fired.  And if they had the chance, I doubt very much that
they'd give any money back.  

Lori
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: leea@eastern.COM (Lee S. Armet)
Subject: Quebec/Philidelphia Trade COMPLETE!
Organization: Eastern's Public Access BBS, Toronto CAN
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:15:56 GMT

Hey All,
 
Arbitration for the Eric Lindros trade scandal in NOW complete. Announced
today, a package of EIGHT players (inc. draft picks) and $15m, are the 
following: Ricci, Hextall, Duschene, Forsberg, Huffman, Simon, 1994 1st
round pick, and another pick.

Simon is the last change to the trade. As far as I remember, Chris Simon is
6'4" 225lbs and borderline psycho--but can score like HELL!

He was suspended in the OHL last season for half of it for punching refs
in the face, cross checking goalies, and host of other tantrums that
Americans love. He also scored more than a GOAL A GAME, with as many
assists. He has the height of Linden, the presence of K.STEVENS, and the
scoring power of MESSIER. He's just a LITTLE psycho--that's all.

If Simon can be controlled and motivated by Page, he alone will lopside the
deal. Mark my words. 

Quebec's forward regiment now looks like this:
V. Kamensky          J.Sakic        O.Nolan
C. Simon             M.Ricci        M.Sundin
M. Rucinsky          T.Warriner     S.Young
P. Cavalini          P.Forsberg     G.Pasklawski
M. Hough             C.Lapointe     M.McNeil
 
Not TOO bad, eh? 

Talk to you later....
Lee S. Armet
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: lipinski_todd@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com
Subject: Re: Most impressive arena?
Organization: Motorola, Inc
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:19:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.174905.16470@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R
Krueger) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.145408.27757@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul30.105645.17707@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
kirchner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Robert Kirchner) writes:
>>>
>>
>   This is reaching a little since Milwaukee doesn't even have an NHL team
>   yet, but the Bradley Center is a great place to see a hockey game. I've
>   seen all three of the Wisconsin Badger Hockey Showdowns (probably the best
>   college hockey tournament around) and the place has been rocking every   
>   time.
>
>   Being about a three-year-old building, the Bradley Center obviously has no
>   tradition to speak of, but it is a beautiful made-for-hockey arena. In
>   absolute truth, there are no bad seats (I didn't buy my tickets for the
>   first showdown until gametime and was sitting in the nosebleed seats ;)
>
>   I've also read that almost every coach and player that has played here,
>   including pro teams such as the Blackhawks, Oilers, Kings, etc has
>   commented that the Bradley Center was one of the best buildings they had
>   ever played in. 
>
>   --Salty

I saw the opening night at the Bradley Center and was quite impressed
(Blackhawks vs. Oilers) at how well we were able to see from up high.  I also
have sat in various sections for Milwaukee Admirals games.  I agree that it is
an excellent place to watch hockey.

As far as fans and atmosphere, my vote goes to the Chicago Stadium.  When the
blackhawks scored the game winning goal in one of the games against the Wings,
it was deafening.  My ears were literally ringing when I walked out.  It was
almost as loud with every goal in the Edmonton series.

Maybe I'm biased, and I haven't been to any other NHL arenas, but from the way
most of them seem on TV, there aren't too many others I would rather be at than
Chicago Stadium for the noise.  Of course the new stadium probably won't be
anywhere near as loud as this one.  I plan on seeing the Montreal Forum this
season if I can though.  Perhaps then, I might be a better judge than now.

-todd
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:00:51 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Penguin logo


Steve Popovich writes:

>And of course:
> 
>The Ulfie Burgher (gives you severe gastric distress at the thought of
>		   going to Boston)
>The Stanton Burgher (very heavy; makes you skate like a traffic pylon)
>The Jennings Burgher (a slight variation of the Stanton Burgher)
>The Pitts Burgher (in honor of the perennially losing pre-Mario pens
>		   and the quality of their play)

Good job there, Steve!  I knew you could do it.  This sure beats Eric
Lindros postings.

As an aside, you local folks may want to pick up a copy of the August
issue of Pittsburgh Magazine.  You'll recognize it easily at the newsstand;
Mario is on the cover.  He was voted Best Thing About Pittsburgh, or
something like that; I haven't read the article yet.  And in the Annual
Best of Pittsburgh Poll, the top 3 favorite sports figures are 1) Mario;
2) Jaromir Jagr; 3) Andy Van Slyke.  Where are ya, Barry?!

Mom.
From: nk0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brennan Kraje)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: nhl schedules wanted
Date: 26 Jul 92 15:55:26 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


    Looking for a CAPS schedule also.

                Thanks, 
                            Brennan Kraje
                            the Heinz School, CMU

    *********************** CAPS IN '93 ********************
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: NHL Olympians
Keywords: hockey, Olympics, summer, NHL 
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:02:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.124413.7026@meadow.uucp> zeke@meadow.UUCP (Samuel Lee) writes:
>In article <1992Jul16.141601.3041@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> lipinski_todd@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com (Todd Lipinski) writes:
>>
>>The Olympics are right in the middle of the NHL season.  
>
>The solution is simple:  move hockey to the Summer Games.
>

A better solution would be to let the Olympics be an age-group
tournament open to say players under 22...and organize a World
Cup like tournament for professionals.

Gerald
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Renegotiation
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:07:47 GMT

In article <92204.142620RSK113@psuvm.psu.edu> RSK113@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>    However, Bonds is a proven choke artist. Two years in a row he has
	                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What do 14 games prove?

>disappeared come playoff time. Now he is asking to be the highest payed
>player in the league.  By contrast, both Barrasso and Jagr, more than once
>each in the last two playoff years, have risen to the occasion and "saved"
>the teams' hope of winning the championship. (Barrasso could very well have
>won the Conn Smythe this year and Jagr single-handedly scored several game
>winning goals in both Cup runs.) And neither of these two are even asking
>to be the highest payed players on the team.

Because neither is a premier player.  Bonds is one.  Are you claiming that
Jagr is one of the best players in the league?  (He might become one
eventually, but isn't one yet.)  Are you claiming that Barrasso is one of
the best players in the league?

>    I have to agree with Lori and say that these two are justified in asking
>for more money.  Without either of them, I don't think the Pens would have
>won two in a row. With both of them still around, I think they have a good
>chance of winning a couple more.

But you can also claim that the Penguins wouldn't have won without Ulf
Samuelsson.  Yet, I don't think you can justify a big contract for Ulf.  (In
fact, you can claim that the Penguins wouldn't have won without ______, if
that player has made any contributions at all to the team (i. e., not Jay
Caulfield :-))

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GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Go for Next Year! :-(
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Pat Falloon for Hart! :-) Neil Wilkinson for Norris!  ('92-'93)
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rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks