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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: First Taligent Won't Run Existing Apps
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:50:13 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <nigel.715395259@saturn> nigel@socs.uts.edu.au (Nigel Pearson) writes:

>	1) MacOs already does this at times. You shove a disk in, and mouse
>	   response, or file de-compression speed slows down.

Yes, but with a preemptive operating system, that can happen *anytime*,
not just at well-defined times, such as in response to a disk-insert
event.

>	2) If you don't want other tasks to pre-empt what you are doing,
>	   raise the priority of the important task. Some OS's do this
>	   automatically for the "foreground" application. (i.e. the one
>	   which has user input at the moment - the active window)

Raising the priority of the foreground task is no solution.  If
you're running any significant program, its CPU requirements vary
greatly from one moment to the next.  If you set the priority high
enough to allow it to get all the cycles it needs at critical times,
it's going to be hogging cycles that it doesn't need during slack
times.  No matter how you set the priority, you're going to be wasting
cycles sometime.  The only optimal solution is a dynamic (i.e., cooperative)
solution.

>>Preemptive multitasking only works well for noninteractie, batch-oriented
>>systems or interactive systems with multiple processors.  

>	Bullshit.

Oh, very clever.  That convinces me *completely*.


>>>Symmetric Multi-Processing?  

>>I'm not even sure what this is.  If it's anything more than
>>marketing speak, I'd like to hear more.

>	More than one processor, attached symmetrically to the buss?

Ever hear of Rocketshare?
From: ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:07:25 GMT
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 <92237.183929ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> <ewright.714687708@convex.convex.com>
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Organization: KFA  Forschungszentrum Juelich

In article <ewright.714943016@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V.
Wright) says:
>
>In <92240.131648ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET> ASI509@DJUKFA11.BITNET writes:
>
>>But gigabytes of RAM ??? Let me quote from my IIsi manual:
>>"Speicher: 3MB RAM, erweiterbar auf 17MB" which means the maximum is 0.017GB.
>>That sure _is_ gigabytes but not very many of them :-)
>
>See, that's what you get for reading documentation!  The IIsi has
>1M of RAM soldered to the motherboard and 4 SIMM slots.  That allows
>it to have 5M of RAM using 1M SIMMs or 17M of RAM using 4M SIMMs.
>But using 16M SIMMs, it can have 65M of RAM.  If that is not enough,
>you can add additional RAM on a nubus card, and *all* of that memory
>is directly addressable -- no expanded/extended/upper memory nonsense.
>The operating system's memory limit is something like 4 gigabytes --
>not a number I keep in my head, since I am unlikely to be able to
>afford that much memory anytime soon.  I have 17M of physical RAM
>in my IIsi, and usually run with 34M of virtual memory.  17M is not
>the memory limit.  (And even if it was, that would still sound good
>compared to the PC's 640K barrier.)

Thats what I get reading   A P P L E   documentaion. I think they should know
what their machine can do and what it can`t do. But perhaps it`s simply british
understatement.

BTW: 17M sounds good. At least 1M better than my 16M limit on my fairly old 386
But then, when you buy a 386 or 486 today they usually have a limit of 32M or
64M. Don`t talk about 640K barrier. It no longer exists. I try to compare to
System 7 even if I can`t run it on my Mac due to incompatibilites with the
other software I bought together with the machine. I don`t compare to System 4
or 5. So if you say something can`t be done with a PC (and todays PC are 386 or
486 computers) you have to take into account that DOS is not the only OS for
PCs. If DOS doesn`t work for you, don`t bother the machine on my list had OS/2.
YOU DON`T HAVE TO PAY EXTRA FOR IT. IT WAS INCLUDED IN THE PRICE I TOLD YOU.

Michael Bode.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: OzTeX location?
From: guelzow@brandonu.ca
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:49:48 CST
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Aug26.143728.2166@brandonu.ca>, I wrote:
> This is most likely a FAQ, but I couldn't find the answer in any of the mac
> groups nor in the TeX group:
> What is the address from where I can ftp OzTeX?
> I believe it's in Chicago but can't remember the details.
> 
> Thank you very much, Andreas
Thank you very much to all those who told me that OzTeX is available at
midway.uchicago.edu

Andreas
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Andreas Guelzow  Dept. of Mathematics & Comp. Sc. Brandon University MB Canada
Guelzow@BrandonU.Ca
From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: How good is AutoDoubler?
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:59:52 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


 I use the Finder Label exclusion with Autodoubler, and one feature I wish for 
 is that changing a compressed file's label to an excluded one would cause the
 file to expand, either automatically or on the next pass. Unfortunately, it
 doesn't, but I have DD for such things.

Richard C. Long			long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: stuffit/compact pro
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:48:56 GMT

gblanken@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gerime P Blankenship) writes:

>     So I tried to expand from within both stuffit lite and compact pro.  The
>mac won't even show them as a choice to expand.  Could someone tell me how to
>expand files that don't work from either stuffit lite or compact pro.

   In both programs, you have to choose Extract BinHex (or something like
that) from a different menu towards the right side. You can't just open a
.hqx file with the standard Open Archive command.
From: los@coos.dartmouth.edu (Charles Dubuque)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: DiskDoubler 3.7.6 and System 7.1b7 problem
Summary: beta system software, dumb questions, etc.
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:05:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <Borel-030992091543@isrfmac42.epfl.ch> Borel@elsrfm.epfl.ch (Borel Philippe) writes:
>I recently updated my 7.01 system to 7.1b7 and I found that DiskDoubler
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>3.7.6
>init (running with Autodoubler 1.07i) didn't work anymore.
>The DD menu has all it's items disabled...and there's no way to get them
>active again !
>
>Does anyone have an answer ?
>Is there an update for DD ?
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ !!!!????
>Help !!!

You updated(?!) to 7.1b7. Sorry, my friend, but 7.0.1 is the latest
version of system software available to the general public. Is there an
update(?!!) to make DD work with beta software? I wouldn't bet on it.

<<minor flame>>
Will all these people running BETA system software please stop whining
when stuff stops working on their machine???? System 7.1 is not out
yet. System 7.1b7 is a beta release. It's not even a golden beta
release. Software firms are under no obligation to support beta system
software.

Unless you are beta testing your own software for upward compatibility
with soon-to-be-released 7.1, you should not be running 7.1b7. Also,
7.1b7 was released to developers under a non-disclosure licence, so you
should probably not be even writing this post.

Back in 1989, I was part of a beta testing group. To test the program
for "soon-to-be-released" system software, we were running our Macs with
System 7.0a9 (Alpha version, folks).  Needless to say, almost every
program, including most of the included system software, bombed
incessently. I did not go crying for "updated versions" of my software
to run under an unreleased operating system.

Please, deinstall 7.1b7 and stay with 7.0.x with Tuneup 1.1.1 unless
you are testing software. And if you are testing software, that is all
you should be doing with a beta system release, not writing theses and
trying to be productive.

Sheesh.
<<flame off>>

Chuck
(whose beta testing became fairly irrelevant as the alpha version was
over a year and a half removed from the final release and who thanked
god when he went home and had system 6.0.5 running on his SE/30 without
crashes every five minutes. he did however install the golden beta of
7.0 on his home computer, but that was about a week before the official
release, and it was a golden beta.)
From: ra_novy@dal.mobil.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Font with Script Characters?
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:20:27 GMT

Is a font with script characters in one of the archives?  A co-worker of mine
particularly wants script H and J for some equations.

I've searched the directories at sumex and umich, but there aren't any names
that obviously fill this need.


Bob Novy
ra_novy@dal.mobil.com
Dallas, TX

  Ask not what you can do for your country;
  Ask what Slick Willie can do for you!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: karim@ecst.csuchico.edu (Karim B. Sanjabi)
Subject: Re: 13" RGB or Ethernet card via SCSI port SE/30. Which is best ?
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 17:25:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.091913.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> pjharris@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
 
(stuff deleted)

>
>I have seen the SCSI-Graph in action.  If you're not too concerned with screen
>re-draw speed, then it's a pretty good choice (passing QDvideo blocks down
>the SCSI path will always be slower than a dedicated video processor).  I don't
>have any experience with SCSI based E-net products, only bus/dedicated systems.
>
>Patrick

I have heard that you can hook one of these SCSI monitors up to any mac with
a SCSI port.  If you had one of these hooked up in addition to, say a 13"
monitor, would this also slow down your 13"?  Or would just the SCSI monitor
be slow?

   KARIM

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: oivindi@dhhalden.no (OIVIND IDSO)
Subject: QuickTime movies through PC?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:13:34 GMT

Hi.

I have a Mac at home, but use a MS-DOS PC at school (which is connected to 
Telnet/Internet).

My question is therefore: Is it possible for me to download for example a 
QuickTime movie from an FTP-site through the PC, and then store it on a 
disk (compressed), use AccessPC (or similar) to convert it from PC to MAC, 
and then use it on my Mac?

Oivind (oivindi@sofus.dhhalden.no)

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From: dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Copyright of letters (was Re: ewright is full of Bull.....)
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:07:44 GMT
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

Smittie writes:

> I am a bit curious about this "rule" regarding the posting of received
> email to the net without the sender's permission. My feeling is that a
> letter, be it paper or electronic, becomes my property the moment it
> arrives in my mailbox.  As such I can do whatever I want this it,
> whenever I want.

Your feeling doesn't match up with current U.S. law on the matter.

> Is there some logic or reason behind this guideline?

There is both logic and reason - and law - behind this guideline.

Under U.S. law, if person A writes a letter to person B, then the
following is true:

-  Person B now owns the _medium_ on which the letter was written (e.g.
   the paper).

-  Person A owns the _words_ (i.e. the copyright).

Therefore, person B (the recipient) may keep the letter, or destroy it.
S/he may NOT, however, republish the letter in a public forum without
person A's permission.  To do so is a violation of the author's
copyright.

This issue has come up in court a number of times... for example, when a
set of letters written by a public figure are discovered in the files
of the person to whom they were written.  The courts have ruled that
the recipient does NOT have the right to publish these letters in public
without the permission of the author (or the author's estate).

If the original author had _posted_ the letter in a public forum (e.g.
USENET) then it's a fair use of the letter to quote or repost it in
public.  If the letter was transmitted privately, then it was the
(implicit or explicit) decision of the author to keep the content of the
message private, and the recipient does not have the legal right to
override the author's decision without permission.
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From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Novy Quick 030 vs Magic RailGun 030
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:31:27 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

I heard they were made by the same company, and see that the Novy is about $50 
less.  Do they use the same software?  Anyone have problems with them??

Especially, has anyone had experience with running them at the 16Mb RAM level?

Thanks for responding!


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From: u8902989@cs.uow.edu.au (Chung Ming Liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: How to playback raw binary sound files on the Mac ?
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:09:00 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

Would anyone please tell me how can I playback raw binary sound file on
the Mac or how can I change there header so that program like SoundEdit can
playback ? (please tell me the FTP site if possible)


Chung Ming Liu
Dept. of Business Systems
Internet: u8902989@cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:21:51 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug28.201740.18893@CS.ORST.EDU> pricec@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (price carl wayne) writes:

>I don't use Ventura publisher, I use Pagemaker.  So I don't think I'll call
>Ventura.  But as I stated above, I have 32 bit flat memory, i.e. 4GB without
>the tricks etc.  not *kilobytes* but *gigabytes*.

I don't question whether you can stuff 4GB into your machine.  The 
question is, can you actually address that much memory?  And the
answer is, no, at least not reliably.  To give you an example, I
just tried opening Windows Paintbrush and got an error message
saying there wasn't enough memory to run the application.  The only
other program I had running at the time was Xvision, with a few X
Windows open.  So I checked the Program Manager to see how much
free memory I had, and it told me 8.8 Meg.  Almost 9 Megabytes of
free memory, and I can't even open this tiny little paint program!
640K barrier.  Bam!  This is not atypical of the performance I
experience every day.  Although MS Windows claims to be a multitasking
environmental, the number of programs I can actually have running is
severely limited, not by physical RAM but by Intel's bizarre memory
architecture.  I repeat, not Microsoft, but *Intel's.*     

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: throop@wilder.com (Throop Wilder)
Subject: Re: AppleShare Server Accounting
Organization: Wilder Systems/Trik Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:14:21 GMT

In article <92238.102148MATTOTE@UCF1VM.BITNET> MATTOTE@UCF1VM.BITNET writes:
>I am currently running an AppleShare Server v3.0 on System 7.0 and would
>like to keep track of who logs in, when, how long, and the like.  I see
>nothing provided with AppleShare Server (not withstanding the possibility
>of temp. blindness) that would accomplish this.  I would appreciate any
>constructive suggestions anybody might be able to give me.  Thanks in
>advance.

We are currently in beta and anticipate shipment in mid-September of 
a product called Nok Nok Pro which does exactly what you're asking
for. It also identifies guests and can disconnect users based on idle
or maximum connect times.

Regards,

Throop


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent)
Subject: Re: Plus Monitor problems...fixable?
Organization: Texas A&M Univ., Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:47:10 GMT

Jeffrey,

the absolute first thing you need to do in order to fix this, assuming
you are fixing it yourself, is to get Larry Pina's book, "Macintosh Repair
and Upgrade secrets."  ISBN 0-672-48452-8.  Hayden is the publisher.

Fixing a Mac+ by yourself is certainly doable; I've done many resolderings
on my old machine.

jbaron@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jeffrey Baron) writes:
|For ages,
|the machine has had a horizontal 'flickery line thing' which we have never
|managed to diagnose.

This is known as the infamous "screen jitters" problem, which is caused
by a bad T1 (flyback transformer on the power supply board).  New transformers
don't cost too much (like $20 or so).

| Now, in addition to that, the entire screen is losing
|vertical momentum and is just showing up as a horizontal beam of light.

According to Pina, this can be due to three general things:
 1) bad solder joint on pin-5 of J4
 2) bad transistors (Q1 and Q2)
 3) bad resistors R2 and R3

Again, check out the book for detailed procedures and correct replacements.
*Every* funny thing I found on my power supply was documented in his
book -- he knows what he's talking about, indeed.

-Brent

Oh, BTW, I fixed my power supply the third time for less than $30, which
includes two cartridges for my turntable...  It's definitely cheap to
do it yourself.
From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Where is IconWrap? (was re: Too Many INIT Icons)
Date: 3 Sep 1992 07:40:38 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu


In article <1992Sep3.005352.9207@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:

>> Try IconWrap. I think you can find it on sumex (36.44.0.6).
>
>Which directory is it under?

	well, one should fetch the index of all files and search for it
	there (rather than asking the world about it), but just in case
	it isn't at SUMEX, you can find it on RASCAL.ICS.UTEXAS.EDU

rascal% pwd
/usr2/ftp/mac/system-related
rascal% ll IconWrap_1.2_*
   4 -rw-r--r--  1 werner       3968 May 21 15:20 IconWrap_1.2_SIT_bin
   1 -rw-r--r--  1 werner        558 May 21 15:22 IconWrap_1.2_intro
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: GILMART@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: unreadable GIF files??
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:35:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.025138.10447@seas.gwu.edu>
freytag@seas.gwu.edu (Richard Freytag) writes:
 
>I have been using a variety of applications that are supposed to be able
>to decompress GIF files that have a TEXT resource; notably VisionLab.  All
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I've never seen GIF files with a TEXT resource, only data-fork-only files
with type either GIFf or TEXT.  But it might be my ignorance.
 
>GIF files (ones that are readable on other systems) when downloaded to my
>machine via Kermit fail with a message that they have a "bad LZW code."
>These GIF files are not compressed, uuencoded, or manipulated in any way
>except to be GIF files.
>
>Is there something obvious that I am missing/forgetting?
 
A frequent cause of such errors is newline conversion.  Be sure both
transmitting and receiving Kermits are instructed to not add or strip
linefeeds or use binary protocol, or whatever.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kpw105@huxley.anu.edu.au (Ken Wessen)
Subject: 5 1/4 apple IIc floppy drive with classic?
Organization: ANU
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 04:35:17 GMT

Is it possible to use an apple IIc 5 1/4 inch external floppy drive with a
mac classic to convert prodos files to macOS using Mac file exchange?
I ask this because a friend tried it and said it worked fine, but
immediately afterwards the classic barfed badly and his logic board was
fried.  Before I try it then, I would like to know whether the drive
somehow caused the problem or not.  Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Ken
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:25:30 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug27.202129.12780@CS.ORST.EDU> pricec@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (price carl wayne) writes:

>My point is that there are some people who don't want an OS forced on them
>and are happy to buy the Machine without one, for the rest, the OS comes 
>with the machine.

Why would anyone want to buy a Macintosh without the operating system?
Apple makes, to be fair about it, a pretty run-of-the-mill machine,
by 68000 standards.  It's the system software that makes a Macintosh
a Macintosh.  (I should know.  My first Mac was an Atari ST.)

>To start, a Macintosh is by no means more powerful than a PC clone, I work 
>on both (IIci and a 486/33) and the PC will blow the Mac out of the water 
>in speed and performance.  I have not had the chance to use a quadra yet,
>but then I guess my pockets aren't deep enough to afford one.  

Okay.  Let's measure performance based on some simple, but meaningful,
task.  Now, insert a floppy disk into your computer and change its
name from "A:" to "Price Carl Wayne's floppy."  Time yourself to see
how long it takes.  I'll do the same thing.  You have a decided advantage,
since my Mac is not here at work and it will take me a few hours to get
home.  I'll be generous enough to include that time to my benchmark.  :-)

Well, if you think that benchmark is unfair, how about we try this one:
create an icon that you can click on to simultaneously launch several
programs and documents, possibly located on several disks (even on
a network).

Performance is not just how many many MHz your processor executes.

>Now, let's get into the cost thing.  To buy a 486/50 with a fast 200MB 
>SCSI drive (yes, most high end PC do use SCSI for performance), 16MB of
>ram (70ns), SVGA monitor (1024x768 w/256 colors max resolution), 14" monitor
> OS and a mouse would cost me $2500 (from a local store, this is not even
>going to the mail order places where I could shave off around $500 

And how much would it cost you to get a PC that can *use* that 16M
without limitations such as expanded memory, extended memory, upper
memory, or segmentation.  Better budget at least $10M for your own
R&D department to do what IBM and Microsoft haven't been able to do.
Hm, $4000 vs. $10,002,500, and you still say the Macintosh is not cheap? :-)