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Subject: Re: Repair using transporter/replicator technology?
From: cse1011@desire.wright.edu
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:28:47 EST
 <1992Sep24.044254.16819@nmsu.edu> <1992Sep25.201831.3811@tronsbox.xei.com>
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Sep25.201831.3811@tronsbox.xei.com>, dfrancis@tronsbox.xei.com (Dennis Heffernan) writes:
> In article <1992Sep24.044254.16819@nmsu.edu> rkaczano@dante.nmsu.edu (KACZANOWSKI) writes:
> |Hi, Just wondering why the crew doesn't use the replicators and
> |transporters to repair the ship?  Seems quite logical to me.
> |
> |Again, just wondering...
> |
> 	They do use the replicators to come up with new parts (except for some
> stuff that can't be replicated, or is too expensive to replicate, or is so
> important that you have to have spares around in case the replicators
> break).
> 
> 	I doubt that the transporters are precise enough to go beaming little
> parts into places, though.  And it certainly couldn't make the necessary
> connections for working parts, or weld new hull sections in place.

	Well, the transporters are precise enough to place a person (or thing)
exactly on the floor surface.  Not too far up (in the air), and not too far
down (below the surface by a few millimeters, which could be tough on their
shoes, or even their feet).

	Kurt Cypher
From: tibor@server.uwindsor.ca (TORONYI TIBOR            )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Time's Arrow II **Spoilers**
Date: 2 Oct 1992 16:42:06 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

DANGER DANGER WILL ROBINSON

SPOILER ALERT















>>Picard to get his buns down to the planet with the
>>landing party and then later she refused to give Riker
>>any clue at all because she couldn't interfere?

Has anyone come up with the thought that if Picard had not been there
no one would have known that Guinan was injured and therefore she might
have died in that cavern.

Just my two cents.

Tibor
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From: brein@gpvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Barry Rein)
Subject: Mark Twain (1835-1910), Jack London (1876-1916)
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:35:17 GMT

If TAII was set in 1893, Twain would have been 58, and Jack London was 17,
assuming both had passed their birthdays.  Actually, Twain looked rather
doddering for a 58-year old.

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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Mistake in Borg episode
Date: 4 Oct 92 06:55:39 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct2.194642.12163@megatek.com> megatek!frg@uunet.uu.net writes:
>In article <BvCsIy.3oI@mach1.wlu.ca> roma5507@mach1.wlu.ca (romanko jeffrey) writes:

>I think when identifying themselves, the Borg can say "I" if the "I" is part
>of a group.  The Borg in "I, Borg" identified himself as "*I* am three of five"
>or something like that.  It is when the Borg depicts himself as an individual
>that's considered a violation of Borgish-rules :-), eg. "I am Hugh".
>Well, that's my observation.

Nope, he identified himself as "third of five".

"Do you have a name?  A means of identification?"
"Third of five."
"That's it, just a number?"
"Third of five."

The reason Locutus said "I am Locutus of Borg" is because the Borg wanted
someone to be their mouthpiece, and they knew that humans would understand
better if he said "I" than "we"...  In "I, Borg" when Hugh says "We
are Borg," Geordi says "Who's 'we'?".


-- 
Jorge Diaz                       | Sign in a restaurant:
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From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Need help with episode name
Date: 30 Sep 1992 06:53:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <52400010@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> mhampsch@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
(Mark Hampsch) writes:
:>I do not remember the name of the show but that was very important because
:>the big E did not have enough chemicals to restore the soil back to normal
:>but there was this ship that deals with the black market that had the
:>chemicals they needed.  Data went over to get them and the captain of the
:>other ship was a pirate and collected special rare items.  They knocked out
:>Data and anilazied what Data was made of and put thoses compoundes on the
:>shuttle craft and blew up the shuttle.  Captian Picard thought Data was
:>dead and went back to the planet and solved their problems. Riker or Georde,
:>I do not rember which one it was but they thought that the cargo ship
:>just happened to be in the right place at the right time was not right.
:>Picard went back to the cargo ship.  While the big E was away Data was
:>trying to escape from this prisson.  An away team beams over and helps Data
:>defeat the captian of the cargo ship.

The episode is called "The Most Toys."
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: the ongoing time travel debate
Date: 26 Sep 92 04:52:36 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Sep25.154217.687@altair.selu.edu> scsd1005@altair.selu.edu (Terry Cooper) writes:
>New technology based on new scientific discoveries may well
>enable us to achieve FTL travel. If that happens, there's no
>reason to believe that causality becomes subject to violation.
>Not so with backward time travel.

How, pray tell, do you define causality?  Considering that the reason
that the "light barrier" exists is simply to maintain causality -- to
prevent information about an effect reaching a point before information
about its cause -- how can you say that FTL travel doesn't violate it?

And if FTL doesn't violate it, then why does time travel violate it?

I'm not a high-energy physicist myself, but I've taken a few courses
relating to this field.  I know enough to know that with current
views of the universe, both FTL and time travel are impossible.  I also
know enough to know that there are still ways to get outside the current
views of the universe.  And that's why I try not to dismiss anything
out of hand.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.current:13966 rec.arts.startrek.misc:9759 rec.arts.sf.tv:3543
From: zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach, the Lego Maniac)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Will we have to pay to see Star Trek?
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:48:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Brandeis University

harris3@ra.nrl.navy.mil (Kevin Harris) writes:

>In article <90272@netnews.upenn.edu>, chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Chaim R. Dworkin) writes:
>> 
>> Will we all have to pay to watch Star Trek in the future???

>My cable system carries the Sci-Fi channel on Basic Cable...meaning it is included with
>the basic channels, and so you don't have to pay extra for it.  I dunno about other cable
>systems out there.

>Kevin
>----
>KHarris@aol.com

Well I would like the Idea of a Sci-Fi channel, but the local cable
co. here is not going to let us get it. What I am woried about is that
PBS will no longer show DrWho, Red Dwarf, Blake's 7 etc because of
this and that we will not be able to see these shows at all.

--Zach  Zkessin@cs.brandeis.edu

There are worlds out there where the sky is burning.  The sea's
asleep, and the rivers dream. People made of smoke and cities made of sound.
Somewhere there's danger. Somewhere there's injustice.
Somewhere else the tea's getting cold. Come on Ace, we've got work to do."
                                    -The Doctor "Survival"
From: rotheroe@convex.com (Dave Rotheroe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Realm o' Fear and next week's Troi episode
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:26:13 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct3.233648.7940@ac.dal.ca> davidhe@ac.dal.ca writes:

>This week's Barclay episode wasn't as good as I'd hoped, but next week's looks
>worse.  The only way I think it can be saved is if Troi actually "pays the
>ultimate price" and dies.

<<<<<MAJOR SPOILERS FOLLOW>>>>>



























Just saw it last night. Troi does die.  Actually Beverly puts her to death
on Picard's order.  It isn't a great episode (or even a good one), but there
were some neat special effects of Troi's face near the end of the episode,
so at least 3 seconds are worth watching.  With the exception of TAII which
I really likes, I wonder if this season is going to be worse than last
season.

==================================================================8--<
Dave Rotheroe                rotheroe@convex.com              DoD#0045
CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, TX 75083-3851, (214) 497-4512

55 - It's not a good idea - it's just the law.
From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Computer on Enterprise
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:22:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep27.174441.24047@unlinfo.unl.edu> aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A. Berigan) writes:
>00rdharringt@bsu-ucs.uucp (Rob Harrington) writes:
>
>>And [...] if all you have to do is say "Computer" what happens
>>when the word "Computer" comes up in casual conversation?
>
>
>Or you can argue that the computer has been taught a bit about the
>semantics of speech, and can tell the difference between a casual
>name-dropping and a request of the computer.
>
>Or, you can note the different tone of voice one has when they start a
>sentence with "Computer," or use "computer" in the middle of a sentence.
I *do* notice a different tone of voice whenever a crewmember asks for 
information so you may be right. I think, from what I hear when this happens
is the crewmember enunciates the word Computer, as if they were onstage
and the Computer responds as programmed. Of course, it can't tell real
questions from rhetorical ones, as when Dr. Crusher asked herself where the
next opening out of the warp bubble would appear and the computer answered
"insufficient data." "I'm not talking to *you*," was the reply. :)


-- 
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From: anton_sanderfoot@qms1.life.uiuc.edu (Tony Sanderfoot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Beta-Zoid Plexing
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:48:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: lazarow2.anton_sanderfoot-051092164936
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <1992Oct5.205120.13113@wuecl.wustl.edu>, ac1@cec2.wustl.edu
(Anuj Chandra) wrote:
> 
> Plexing is one of weirdest pseduo science ever on ST:NG. Tapping on
> the artery behind the cortoid (?) nerve in the neck seems to INSTANTANEOUSLY
> release endorphins that INSANTANEOUSLY has an  effect in calming Barclay.
> Barcllay looks ridiculous when he taps that stupid nerve.
> 
> Why shoould betazoid plexing work on a human?

I got the feeling that this was just something made up Troi was telling
Barclay to do to make him relax. Sort of a placebo reaction, giving him
something else to do instead of feeling anxiety
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From: cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144)
Subject: Re: Data and contractions
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 12:09:17 GMT

I have asked this question before, but have yet to get an answer to my
satisfaction. In english contractions may be merely informal or outright slang,
but in some languages (i.e. German), the slang is the correct if not only
proper usage for some things. Also ST:TNG is translated into many foreign
languages. When translated do any of Data's dialogues get a contraction where
in that langauge it would be considered correct or does he incorrectly
speak without contractions despite the rules of the language it is being
translated into?

I am speaking primarily about languages where the voices are dubbed in for the
translated version.

Personally I don't see why Data couldn't say to himself, "When I want to negate
a variety of words with a not after it an 't can be replaced in most cases"...
Then go ahead and learn all of the words that follow this 'rule' and their
exceptions.
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From: goodwin@orionsci.uucp (Ben Goodwin)
Subject: TAII
Organization: Orion Scientific, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:35:30 GMT

I always enjoy TNG even when it stinks.  Don't analyze the previuos, just
accept it. :)

On that note I give it a C.  The usual glaring inconsistencies were present
but then that's average for TNG.

Spoilers follow













10 line is all you get!

More moronic aliens in the TNG universe and a paradox that defies description.

1) If earthers hadn't found Data's head, then no one would have investigated
that planet of the soul eaters. 

2) If the earthers hadn't investigated, no one would have found Data's head.

Is it just me or are we lacking a cause in this cause affect equation?

Secondly, why can't these aliens defend themselves?  They are smart enough
to time travel but sit on this planet totally defensive against the people
who's history they are robbing.

Thirdly, when Picard was watching the female Timetraveller die and he told
her the E would destroy her people, she was unconcerned and actually seemed
to think it was funny.  "Sure, you kill us, but you kill yourself too. Ha Ha!"

I often ask myself why I watch this drivel?  I wish I knew the answer.
I'm not a writer, but the ones for TNG must be incompetent boobs.  The
inconsistencies are big enough to drive a truck through!

Where's Babylon Five?  Maybe some well thought out Sci-Fi if we're lucky.

-- 
=================================================
Ben Goodwin - Orion Scientific - DC - USA

If E-mail fails try orionsci!goodwin@uunet.uu.net
=================================================
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From: tappek@bntley.bntley.ingr.com (Kurt Tappe)
Subject: Star Trek VII NOW (was Re: ST:TNG movie?)
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Bentley Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:55:48 GMT

In article <92279.094056CH8305A@auvm.american.edu>, Charles Hessenius
<CH8305A@auvm.american.edu> wrote:
>I've read that Bergman and the creative staff thought that seven
> seasons would be the course for STNG.  That would mean no movies until
> 1994 or 1995, which leaves room for STVII, if they want to risk
> embarrassing themselves.

In the mail a few days ago I received a direct sales promotion brochure
from Paramount.  A couple of the items they were trying to sell me were
emblazened with "Star Trek VII NOW" logos (mugs, etc.)  At first I thought
this was some campaign to make a seventh movie, but then I realized that
this was PARAMOUNT itself; there's no incentive to be campaigning.

So, anyway, what is this Star Trek VII NOW stuff all about?

-Kurt Tappe  tappek@bntley.bntley.ingr.com  (215) 458-5000
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From: guest@iat.holonet.net (HoloNet Guest Services)
Subject: Re: My $0.02 about "Time's Arrow II"
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:30:12 GMT

Dude - shut up!  Don't you have anything better to do than analyze an
episode to death?  Who cares about Cholera, or electrochemical energy,
etc., etc., blah, blah, blah.  It's a TV show, plain and simple - get a life.
From: idfraser@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Ian Fraser)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Realm of Fear costuming question (SPOILERS?)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 08:11:43 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

-   Throughout the episode, O'Brien was
- wearing a single solid pip, the rank of Ensign, although in every other
- episode since at least second season he has been wearing two solid
- pips, the rank of Lietenant -- and a reasonable rank for a shift supervisor
- or section head on a ship full of officers.  I got the impression that O'Brie
- needed to be "ordered around" by Barclay, and if O'Brien outranked
- him that couldn't be done.
-
In truth, this has bothered me for some time. It's pretty clear to me, from
verbal clues in various shows, the O'Brien is supposed to hold the rank of
Chief Petty Officer. And Worf's 'father' just glanced at his uniform and noted
that fact (even made some jokes about having an officer for a son, and him and
old CPO himself). Yet for the life of me, I can't see how you tell. As you s y
he usually wears a Leiutenant's pips, as far as I can see, but, somehow, folk
are forever looking straight at them and calling him 'Chief'!

 I think I've got the non-flag officers (ensign through captain) down, but
would _really_ appreciate it if someone could explain the enlisted and flag
notations to me....


' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' ' '
 
Bright Blessings to you and yours!  
 
Hawk
 
Circle of Ashtoreth, 
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada.
From: mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (michael neylon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Oh my *GOD* .... is it.... *CONTINUITY*?!?!?!?! (Spoilers)
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:55:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: uoft02.1992Sep29.155508.10236

afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:
: Here's one for those who haven't seen Time's Arrow II ...
: 
: Ok, here's another one for those who haven't seen Booby Trap ...
: 
: Ok, here's one more for all the people who agree with Rawdon ... oh, wait a 
: minute... that one would be wasted. :-)
: 
: OK, so here it is. I'm watching the Sunday night TNG re-runs and up pops 
: Booby Trap ... I just finished watching the tape of TA II (Sorry, I 
: *worked* Sat. night... sue me ! :-)) and a line in Booby Trap struck me as 
: incredibly well threaded to TA II. 
: 
: Geordie asks Guinan what she looks at first in a man ... she replies "His 
: head."... Geordi thinks she means his *brain* ... Guinan goes on to explain 
: that she's attracted to bald men ... Geordi asks why... Guinan says ...
: 
: {Paraphrase Alert}
: 
: "A long time ago, a bald man was kind to me when I was hurt" or words to 
: that effect. 
: 
: Ah-HEM ! Need I continue ? 
: 
: *Was* this continuity or a lucky happenstance for the writers ? You be the 
: judge ! (Also, this *has* to mean that Guinan *knew* about Data's head and 
: the problems that were about to unfold. Boy, that woman sure can keep a 
: secret !)
: 
<sounds and lights of red alert>

Keptain! There's a tear in the fabric of space-time!  It seems to have been
caused by scripts writers in the late 20th century!  Something must be done!

Seriously, this is a surprise....did the TNG crew already had Guinan's
history planned out, and just placed random elements of it in various
episodes (such as the forementioned Booby Trap and TAII)?  Have they done
this with any other characters (such as Bev and Jean-Luc, hinted by
several episodes, including C&E, the one with the guy that 'rapes' Troi,
and any others with a good Bev, Picard scene....) 

#include <popular_C_&_C_Music_Factory_song_title>....

: 
-- 
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      //         | Senior, Chemical Engineering, Univ. of Toledo
  \\ // Only the |   Summer Intern, NASA Lewis Research Center
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Info please on stations carryind DSN
Date: 2 Oct 92 06:20:19 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Sep30.084810.2376@inland.com> tanski@inland.com writes:
<A time ago, someone posted which networks would be carring "Deep Space
<Nine".  If anyone has that information, would you send it, via email, to
<me?  Thanks in advance.

Sorry, but DSN will not be on any network.  It is syndicated.  I had posted
a list that I got from an ad in Broadcasting, but now I can't find the file.
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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Group Dynamics Review:  Time's Arrow, Part II (*SPOILERS*)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 21:55:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.211037.7114@unlv.edu> flagg@blind-lemon.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Cunningham) writes:
>So this time shift tracker, left in 19th century Earth, ends up where?   
>With the head & watch?  In a horseless carriage?  sorry I'm just feeding  
>the well worn thread of TA2.  Actually I don't remember lines to the  
>effect but would assume that Guinan or Twain took care of it.  (but what  
>did they do with it??)

Well, Guinan takes the thing and modifies it so it can be
used for time travel, and goes forward to the time she and
Picard first meet (in the 24th century) where Guinan, Guinan
and Picard have an *incredible* menage a trois, and thus we
learn the true nature of the "special relationship" :-)

Bill
>
>________________________________________________________________________
>Scott Cunningham \ We're the NSA                                        \
>Username: flagg  \ So your the ones I hear on the other end of my phone \
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From: henry.lebovic@p1.f605.n712.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Henry Lebovic)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Sixth Season ST:TNG Program Guide Update News
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:44:11 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Original to: brown@vidiot.UUCP
 > brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot), via Kralizec 3:713/602


 > This is a pre-publication warning regarding the ST:TNG Program Guide.
 > Why the
 > warning?  Well, the "look" of the guide is changing.

Hello from Australia !
I'm just wondering where I might be able to get a copy of your guide. Can I
order it from Australia ? I would appreciate some details of just how I
migbt get it.

With Thanks

Henry Lebovic.
SysOp
The White Lodge 3:712/605@fidonet

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From: gill@physics.ubc.ca (Arnold Gill)
Subject: Re: Glaring Inconsistency (tm) (IMHO) in Time's Arrow Part One
Keywords: Data contraction inconsistency
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 05:37:56 GMT

     I found another inconsistency in that episode -- Troi's explanation to
Riker on how Data defines friendship.  In the broadcast episodes, Data never
spoke of that to Troi -- he was speaking to Ishara Yar in private.  Troi copies
those lines word for word.  Of course, he could have explained it to her at 
another time.  :-)

--
Arnold Gill --- astrophysician trainee in exile             gill@physics.ubc.ca
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