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>Also immortalised by John Donne on viewing his beloved in
>her beatific form:

Here is an example for you, Peter: Donne is discernibly male.

tushar
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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*** Resending note of 12/22/92 21:21

>going on.  This year I was in a toy store that had all sorts of dollhouses
>and toys that will come somewhere on down the line...I can hardly wait!
>ndh                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Me neither!!!!!!  Of course, it won't be dollhouses ...more like 4-wheel
drive monster trucks ....all kinds of neat little boy stuff!!

Go for it Grandma!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ..... have fun ...you (we) deserve it!!!!!!
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Bye ... good holidays
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>With all these people setting nomail, is there even gonna be any list
>mail in the upcoming days??  I hope so.  As usual, my laptop will go with
>me to Alabama tomorrow.  My access there is always iffy, though, so maybe
>it's ok if there's not much mail.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

        Still here, posting from home.  Maybe I'll write a macro to send a note
        every few minutes, just to keep things moving...

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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Madonna, Hammer, and me
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On Sat, 2 Jan 1993 10:54:23 GMT karsten said:
>One-word names will never work here.
>
>--karsten



right on....


cyclops
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Early morning blues...
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>It can't be that great over there - we've had *lots* of Kiwis immigrating
>here recently, for more money.  Your costs may be relatively lower, but

We've had lots of Kiwis crossing the Tasman as well.... seems things are a
lot worse in New Zealand than they are here.

>seems wages are *much* lower.

Average weekly earnings is around the $500 @ week mark for unskilled labour.
The dole is $140 @ week for a single person.... but I get $55 per hour for
the first hour and $35 per hour for subsequent hours, part-time tutoring
at the University.

> And I *couldn't* share.  Did that for 10
>years and couldn't go back to it now.  I hate the overbearing social
>pressure to share jobs and keep a place clean.  I can do what I like here.
>
>G

Sharing with a member of the opposite sex is the only type of joint
accomodation that has ever worked for me...... but even that tends to be a trial
at times..... but at least there are some advantages in that and cohabiting
with a compatible personality still allows a great deal of freedom.

Carolyn
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>and 'on the pad' does NOT have anything to do with 'on the rag'....
>
>dan

Take note of this: important point and frequently overlooked.

tushar
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Susan's Sport/Leisure Question
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>Thus endeth the winning streak...
>
>(I don't feel too badly, though, since generally the only sports & leisure
>questions I get right are about fencing or pool...)

That's two more areas of sport than I know anything about.

>My official answer:  I don't know.
>
>-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------

Colin Hayes was the Australian racing trainer who had 200 winners in the
1979-80 season.

Carolyn
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Santa Claus
              22 Dec 1992 19:48:53 -0600 from <dorisann@TENET.EDU>

On Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:48:53 -0600 Doris Smith said:
>Unlike Nancy, who spilled the beans to Susan herself, *my* daughter had
>the unpleasant truth delivered by her first grade teacher, who not only
>told the class there was no Santa, but that there was no tooth fairy, no
>Easter bunny, and no telling what else.  This mother was in overdrive big
>time when I learned this.
>
I hope you gave her Hell, Doris!

Evelyn
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Subject:      about "****"
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I had some interesting conversations with friends about the use of the
word "fuck". Typically, the conversation went like this:

        `So what do you think is the difference between "fuck you" and
"go fuck yourself"?'
        `One is ungrammatical, the other one is kind of grammatical.'
        `Yes, but what I actually meant was, is "go fuck yourself" milder?'
        `No, it's another way of saying "fuck you".'
        `So you wouldn't say it's slightly milder because it evokes a
kind of bizarre image of masturbating or something?'
        `That's bullshit. Can't you see that both have the word "fuck" in
it, asshole? Fuck is a bad word.'
        `Is it most effective when you say "fuck you" with a smile and in
a sweet tone?'
        `Who told you this stupid fuck?'

My question is, he is clearly using "this is stupid fuck" as a derogatory
comment. Why should a word for a clearly pleasurable activity be used in
this manner?

tushar
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Date: 21 Dec 1992 21:25:13 GMT
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In a previous article, JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS () says:

>YAY!  Dan's back!  To hell with shopping - I'm going to go out and find
>an analemma to hug!  Happy Solistice, y'all!
>
Shopping?  You're still shopping?  Poor you!  Of course, there are plenty
of bargains around this week....

But to Dan and Gail, or whoever's playing second eye for the cyclops,
WELCOME BACK!

		Ruth

with the Bodeans' _home._ jacked into the tape deck.  

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Re: this winter solstice moment

YAY!  Dan's back!  To hell with shopping - I'm going to go out and find
an analemma to hug!  Happy Solistice, y'all!

JMW
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Subject: Re: How I love the winter...
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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:05:23 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%92122823401089@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM writes:

>Far out!  Somebody noticed!  I'm doing my best to build my own legend,
>and I'm succeeding.:-)  I am available for weddings, bar mitzvahs,
>pre-nuptial agreements, and if you're REAL nice, I'll play the lute
>under your window....

	Do you do wedding vows?  Ha!  Only kiding!  I can write my
own.  Maybe. Nice publication, man (I knew you had it in ya :)).


-- 
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CIS:70007,5621                                                (617)864-0665
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Date:         Sat, 26 Dec 1992 09:10:55 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Curls
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Curls are done when you hold a dumbbell in your hand, palm-side up, and
flex your arm towards and away from your head. The biceps are the primary
beneficiaries of this exercise, but the triceps also get a little work.
You can curl standing, with arms at sides, or seated, with arms in front
of you on a table or other support.

-abh
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        >afford it.  I guess I'd better go do my sums.  Is it possible to
        >live off 13K a year? Ho hum...

        Is that pounds sterling? The cost of living must be high where you are
        because my income has been about half that for the past three years and
        we've been living comfortably..... all six of us.

Got room for one more?  My tiny little 1-room flat costs between 600
and 450 pounds depending on the mortgage rate.  (A month) Yes, cost
of living here is *very* high.  Sending out for a pizza costs about
10 pounds, if that's a better yardstick for you.  4 or 5 times as much
as the equivalent in the US.

G
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: What's in a name?

And there once was (may still be) a partnership in Milwaukee,
Head and Seemann, Realtors.

Steve Karlson
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: this winter solstice moment
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          Gail Lester <gaill@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>,
          Cinda Bear <cinda@idui1.BITNET>,
          "Ms. Cinda Bear" <cinda@idui1.uidaho.edu>
              21 Dec 1992 21:25:13 GMT from <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>

On Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:25:13 GMT Ruth M. Hanschka said:
>But to Dan and Gail, or whoever's playing second eye for the cyclops,
>WELCOME BACK!

  hey, thanks for all the cards, ruthbaby.....and natalie and don and others
too....and it doesn't TAKE two eyes to read a monitory....not like depth
perceiption is important on a flatscreen.....or that the left eye focuses
well enough to make any difference anyhow....

>with the Bodeans' _home._ jacked into the tape deck.

   interesting....i kinda like them....but am not crazy about them....but
today a package came from andy....my programmer son in chicago....and we
opened it. .....there are two pacakges that can only be cd's.....and a hat
that i am wearing....(it wasn't wrapped....it is a truly wonderful straw
porkpie....)
   but there was also another package that was bursting open, and was
obviously a book...and it was the NEW Rolling Stone Album Guide...which I did
not have....and 'coincidentally' as i was thumbing thru it i noticed the
piece on the BoDeans...and it says....two stars on each of their albums....
and it says.....  "a real flair for injecting a touch of soul into the
most mundane harmony arrangements.  As songwriters, however, the two are
if not quite hacks then certainly not very far removed, specializing in the
type of roots-rock twaddle beloved by those who like having new albums
to buy but desperately hate new music."

oh, well.....

dan the cyclops.....
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Subject:      Re: Wonder of wonders....

> is. But that was a gorgeous poem, Ken. Cast some for me, willya.

Consider 'em cast, Harwell.  Happy New Year.

Ken
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: An observation
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> It's OK. I think you are next in Natalie's list of great poets.

Keep in mind that I said that Donne was the sexiest dead poet.  I said
nothing about living poets.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Date: 22 Dec 92 08:54:16
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Neal cites:

	   The _Atlantic_ article (cover story in Vol 270, No 6, December 1992)
	   defines Boomers as the 1943-1960 birth cohort, Thirteeners as
	   1961-1981.  That makes anyone who's now 11-31 a Thirteener, while
	   Boomers are 32-49.

	   Generations are longer than decades.

So, why Thirteen?  Doesn't "say" anything to me -- I certainly don't find
any reason to relate to being called a member of "Generation 13".  Rather
seems to defeat the point of calling us "X".  We have no place, thus "X".
We are unidentifiable except by our misfortune to have been born after the
"Boomers".  (is all that right?  i never read the book--wouldn't doubt if
i've missed a crucial element in there some where)  So, tho' I am basically
ignorant as to what the appellation "Generation X" means, I would assume
that by giving us a "number", it invalidates the basic premises upon which
we were entitled "X".

Circuitously,

	//anne, also a "Third Culture Kid"//
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From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Disability

One of those funny/sad pieces of bureaucratic brilliance just caught
my eye as I was looking through the 1991 income tax guide.  In a section
on disability claims:

  To find out if you may be able to claim the disability amount, answer
  the following questions:

    Are you legally blind?

    Are you unable to:

      - feed and dress yourself?
      - eliminate?
      - walk?
      - speak?
      - hear?
      - perceive, think and remember?

  If you answer "yes" to any of these questions, you may be markedly restricted
  in your activities of daily living.  You may also be markedly restricted if
  it takes you an extremely long time to perform these activities.

  To qualify for the disability amount, you have to be markedly restricted
  *all or almost all of the time*.  If you are markedly restricted occasionally
  or part of the time, you are not entitled to this tax credit.

Sigh ...

Tony H.
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Subject:      About this trivia game
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I am sort of new to this list (I used to subscribe a couple of years ago
when I was in grad school), and I'd like to know more about this Trivial
Pursuit-ish game you're playing. May others join in?

--Anjani
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Subject:      Re: Camillemania

> >>The question wasn't whether CP is anti-women, but whether her swipes at
> >>lesbians were blanket criticisms or reserved for separatists.
> >
> >So she's the only humorous lesbian in the world????
>
> Apparently. She's also the U.S.'s leading female intellectual. She says so
> often.

Yeah, by default, after Carolyn Heilbrun was driven out of Columbia.

Ken
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Sweatin' it out
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              2 Jan 1993 17:59:54 -0600 from <dorisann@TENET.EDU>

On Sat, 2 Jan 1993 17:59:54 -0600 Doris Smith said:
>
>Do you remember the old car air-conditioners that were shaped like a
>butane/propane tank (only much smaller) and were mounted at the top and
>outside of a car window?

yes....LONG ago......   o-)

cyclops
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From:         Bud <VB7R0046%SMUVM1.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Car talk 'tween the girlz
              29 Dec 1992 11:08:51 CST from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

With all this phallic symbol stuff bout cars, where does a 4-wheel drive Duelly
P/U with a 8 ton winch, gun rack, 400 horspower and a "SCHWING" bumper sticker
fit into the scheme of strap on manhood or the real thang.

                             Bud
                      (my truck is blue ;) )
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Posted on 29 Dec 1992 at 12:05:10 by Natalie Maynor

>
>Oil of Wintergreen rings no bells with me, although I do like the taste of
>Wintergreen mints.  Do what kind of athletics?

Oil of Wintergreen is not what's in Vicks VapORub.  From the smell I'd
say it's camphor and/or menthol.  Chemically wintergreen is a very
close relative of aspirin.  It's a common synthesis in a first
organic chemistry course, and the surprise of having an odourless
powder turn into a pungent and familiar smelling liquid is neat.
Aspirin (tm in some countries) is acetyl salicylic acid.  Wintergreen
is the methyl ester of salicylic acid.  Looked at another way, start
with salicylic acid and if you want aspirin, add vinegar; if you want
wintergreen, add natural gas.  Opinion on whether chewing
wintergreen mints helps a headache is mixed.

Tony H.
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: inventing a label
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> "buzz off". But when people ask a question like "what is it
> that makes people form emergency listservs" they CAN (on rare
> occasions) mean something different from "what is a good name
> for whatever it is that makes people form emergency listservs".

How is the respondent to know which intent the question had?

> some FACTS about language acquisition while you, after a lot
> Of pretty frustrating correspondence, revealed that you were
> only talking about what some people use the label "native
> language" for. Later, the thread degenerated into making fun

Although I don't remember the details of that thread now, I believe that
I was talking about what some people use the label "native language" for
because you took issue with some people's use of that label.  What kinds
of facts about language acquisition were you looking for?  I don't
remember.

> if you stop assuming that the world is full of freshmen then a lot
> of flip answers will stop too.

Quite the contrary.  I give thorough answers to freshmen because their
questions usually require and deserve thorough answers.  And their questions
usually make sense.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject:      Re: What kind of people are you, anyway?

Greetings,

I cannot verify that Rhode Island is the seat of paradise, but I can attest
that northwestern Ohio is not in contention for the title.

Marty
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Favor?
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>On Sat, 26 Dec 1992, Karen Kay wrote:
>
>> Here's to Anne for the first e-oops of the year!

By my reckoning the new year hasn't started yet, so how could this be the
'first'.... could be the 'last' but since we've still got a few days left of
this year I very much doubt it. :-)

>Crikey. Oh, well, I still have *miles* to go before I equal yours. ;-)
>
>-abh

You're not wrong!

Carolyn
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 03:05:38 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: New Gif!
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>
> Look at peter.gif.  The person in that picture is more than just discernibly
> male -- he's a discernibly sexy male.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

What can I say??????????????????????????

(Thanx, Ma!!!)
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:34:41 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Pizza Toppings
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        The local Greek Orthodox Church serves lunch just about every Thursday.
        The lunch consists of soup, gyro (lamb inside of pita), salad with feta
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So whats the difference from a kebab? (Doner kebab perhaps?)

G
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