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From: kehandle@unix.amherst.edu (KEITH EDWARD HANDLEY)
Subject: Re: ReReleases of MAD comics?
Organization: Amherst College
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:54:41 GMT

balbes@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu wrote:
: In article <b6tr96n@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes
: > zonker+@CMU.EDU (Jeremy G. Mereness) writes:
: >> EC Comics is putting out re-releases of their old (circa 1940) comics
: >> like Mad (the comic, not the magazine) in book form. 
Actually, 1950s, except there may be a few from 1949 in the pre-trend
set.
: > They're actually published by Russ Cochran under license from EC.  A good
: > source for the volumes that are still in print is Bud Plant Comic Art at
: > 1 (800) 242-6642.
The first natural place to look is Russ Cochran Publishing itself.  The
number is 1-800-EC CRYPT.  But I would call Bud Plant anyway and get
a catalog, because it's a good read, and you can find some nice bargains,
too.

: Although most of the hardcover EC reprints were done in black and white,
: the Mad reprint volumes are in full cover.  Cochran felt there was a large
: enough audience for Mad to justify it.  Sigh, if only he had done
: this for all the EC's.

Actually, there was an edition of 1000 Mad sets which were done in
black and white, but that is no longer available from Cochran.  I think
that MAD was well-served by the color, but the other titles really look
great in black and white, and they also were more affordable than the
Mad set was.  And I recommend that anyone out there who likes good
stuff get some ECs in some form, whether it is the hardbacks or the
comics or the reprint comics.

Keith Handley   kehandley@amherst.edu
From: ibanez@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Changes in the Atom (was re:JSA #7)
Date: 11 Jan 93 00:51:51 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

   With all the talk about continuity errors in the new (soon to be gone)
JSA, I've got a few questions:

1.  When dod the Atom get this 'atomic punch' or whatever power? He didn't have
it in All Star Squadron when I was reading it. Did this happen in the later
issues?

2. When did he become a physicist? I always thought he was just an average
joe who trained hard to become, essentially, another version of Wildcat.




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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke)
Subject: Re: ANOTHER $#%^&#%-ING SPIDERMAN TITLE!?!?!?!?![D
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:47:08 GMT

	cavers@menudo.uh.edu (Chris M. Cavers) writes:
>Another point, have the Spiderman titles been coming out with more issues
>per book in 1992 vs 1980..1991 (i.e. it seems as they have been coming out at
>twice a month for quite some time).

	Amazing Spider-Man has been on a fifteen-issues-per-year schedule
(six bi-weeklies per year) for the past few years at least.  Does anyone 
know for how long?  The other three are monthly, though.
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From: cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts)
Subject: Rai #0, notes and spoilers
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 13:38:27 GMT

I previously posted some items about the issue of Rai #0, and a few
people posted opinions, but not many.  With that in mind I would like
opinions posted on the following timeline from Rai #0.

It is stated that after Unity, the geomancers starting with Geoff,
straighten out the anomilies in time up to the end of 4001.  Does
this mean geomancers in future issues will be changing things?

A few names that croped up when Bloodshot was released.  They were
Osaka and Mr. Iwatsu.  Have these people been named anywhere else
in the valiant universe.  I assume they are the people resonsible for
the blood which gave Bloodshot his new life.

Another interesting thing was that Geoff told the Eternal Warrior that
the computer at Project Rising Spirit had told him that they were looking
for the EW, and that he better be careful.  This probably means he will
encounter Project Rising spirit in future issues.

A few dates to remember:

1993:  Geoff has told that Master Darque has taped into an incredible power.
       This is probably what we are now reading in Shadowman.

1999:  Shadowman dies, while stopping Darque.

2020: Archer is now a spiritual leader,  Flamingo and Archer are married,
      Archer dies trying to rescue Armstrong from Harada.

2028: Ax, the renegade harbinger, is almost TOTALLY cybernetic and kills
      Bloodshot.  He takes the Blood of Heros with him.

2056: Ax and the Blood disappear.  Sting disappears off the face of the earth.
      Chris writes a letter to Magnus which is then passed down from each
      generation of geomancer until 4001.  Look for this letter to appear
      in a issue of Magnus.  Start of the Harbinger wars.  Aric, the holder
      of the X-O, is killed by Harada, but not before sending the armor into
      the far reaches of space.

      Gayle, Solars wife dies.  Solar splits in two with alter ego going
      to explore other planes.  This is similar to Solar #2, when he split
      into the comic book character solar, and the alter ego of Dr. Seleski.
      Solar doesn't surface again until 4001.  Look for him in Magnus.

2900: End of Harbinger wars.  John Stanchek, Peters ancestor, kills harada.
      Hard Corps leave the Planet, all people now live in the corporate state
      of Japan.

4002: After Unity, Takao Konishi is the new Rai after receiving the Blood 
      of Heros.  This will now start Rai and the Future Force.

Anyone with anything to add, please post it.

cliff
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From: mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Subject: Re: Futuristic Pseudocussing
Reply-To: mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:20:25 GMT


 ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (kristoff) writes:

|> Was there any previous usage of these and other 30th cantury cuss words before
|> LHSv4, or have we ever been given any indication what they mean?

'Swounds!

;)

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From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: Vertigo Preview
In-reply-to: Marc.Barnett@f601.n105.z1.fidonet.org's message of 2 Jan 93 10:27:00 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 10:51:12 EST

In article <726178909.AA00000@therose.pdx.com> Marc.Barnett@f601.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Marc Barnett) writes:

>As a side question: Does _anybody_ die on her day off? And if not,
>wouldn't the world media notice?

"Thank you for waiting, ladies and gentlemen. At this time we are
still awaiting your anthropomorphic personification to take you to
your destination in the afterlife. She should be here momentarily. In
the meantime our flight crew will be coming through the cabin with
more peanuts and a choice of beverages. We apologize for the delay and
assure you we will do everything we can to get you to your destination
as soon as possible. Thank you."

Probably something like that. Dead, but going nowhere 'til they hear
the sound of her wings.

--
- Rich Holmes
"Grown men, he told himself, in flat contradiction of centuries of
accumulated evidence about the way grown men behave, do not behave
like this." -- Douglas Adams
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From: cerebus@engin.umich.edu (Joe Gorde)
Subject: Re: Cerebus.txt
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 04:39:57 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: Dworkin

In article <11JAN199322345910@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu> dlove@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (DAVID LOVE) writes:
>  While I was flipping through the pages of Cerebus 165, I thought that this  
>was just another cerebus comic book with ten pages of plot and twenty pages of
>letters and mini-strips.  This is why I am saving my money and planing to buy 
>the Mothers and daughters phonebook. 
>
This is the second time someone has said this here recently, so I'd just
like to comment that *every* issue of CEREBUS has 20 pages of story.  When
the letter column gets thicker, the story doesn't get thinner.

>
>Anyway, as I got to the last two pages of Cerebus, I notice the name "Dworkin". 
>I jump up and down with gee. After reading all these phonebooks, I finally see
>a plot twist.  Ok, I think I got a spoiler here.  Maybe it just me being 
>whimsyical, with this being my first post.  However, after waiting for about
>two days and nobody sees the connection between Dworkin and Cerebus,
>I felt I had to post.
>
>I remember Dworkin from the Amber series by Roger
>Zeleny. (<-this is misspelled.)   However, I just figure that Sim was just
>using the name, not the character.  Then somebody post the question about might 
>be the endless, since all the major players seemed to be more like pawns.
>

Nope, General Dworkin is a reference to Andrea Dworkin, a famous radical
feminist.

Also, the names of Sim's "endless" start with S, not D.  (Not that I think
Sim is really going to give us seven of them; in fact, I really hope he
doesn't.)


                                    *Joe Gorde*

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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: LEGION 93 (spoilers)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:04:58 GMT

dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

>I didn't care for this issue.  This Legion of Super Villains seems to
>exist for the sole purpose of being villainous.  

Well, I don't know.  I think I can accept that they're in it for
the profits.

>I also predict that it will turn out that things have been going
>according to Dox's plans.

If they use this, I sure hope they explain exactly what his plans
were, how he could predict Ignea's actions, etc. rather than
just saying "He's smarter than you are."

Overall, I really enjoy this title.  I'm surprised there's not
more discussion of it in this group.

Tom
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From: cornwall@bach.udel.edu (Ray J Cornwall)
Subject: Re: Fantastic Four
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:00:32 GMT

panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:

> I think we are agreed that Tom DeFalco is doing an awful job writing the 
> FF, with no end in sight.  
Not only that, but does anyone else think that the artist on the book
has to be the second-worst art job on any current Marvel book? (The
worst, sadly, in PAD's Spidey 2099...Leonardi's stuff is getting WORSE
and WORSE and WORSE...I can barely follow PAD's story, and my eyes are
beginning to hurt...)
Seriously, the FF's artist is just bad. It reminds me of the negative
examples in How To Draw Comics the Marvel Way...
Ray
U of D


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From: hinrichs@next.santafe.edu (bRant Hinrichs)
Subject: Re: Cerebus
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 03:33:45 GMT
Organization: Santa Fe Institute

In article <1993Jan10.035328.202@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)  
writes:
> silbrmnd@acf3.nyu.edu (Darkmage):
> >	1. What's going on???
> >	2. Besides trying to find the first 13 issues of Mothers and
> >	   Daughters, what other Cerebus stuff should I read?
> >	3. *What* are the phonebooks???
> 
> 
> 
> My advice would be to get either of the first two reprint volumes.
> This will give you some useful background and constitute a reasonable
> basis for deciding whether you want to continue following up on this.
> 
> The first volume, titled Cerebus, reprint issues 1-25.  The first few
> issues are a Conan parody, but by issue 11 the title has found its own
> voice and the story is well and truly launched.  Alternatively, you
> may want to try the second volume, titled High Society (issues 26-50)
> which is a single sub-story:  Cerebus the Prime Minister, his rise and  
fall.
> (Mothers and Daughters, even from the beginning of the run, doesn't
> make much sense if you don't have the background.)
> 


having bought volume 1 on a whim and devouring it in about 3 days (guess
i was hooked!) i eagerly went out and bought all the other volumes i could
get my hands on.  i found volume 2 (high society) to be a much more 
difficult read and become bored after about 2 weeks of sloggin.  recently
though i reread the whole thing, but found it took alot of concentration
to follow (unlike the first volume for me), and it wasn't always clear
how well the continuity actually was to me after getting through about
3/4's of it.  but i did enjoy Sims art and layout and script just as much
or more than vol. 1.  the plot was the thing!  (maybe that was the
whole point??  politics is unintelligble??)

well...now it's time to delve into Church & State I (volume 3) and see
what that holds...

although i really appreciate being able to catch up on Cerebus through the
totally (in my opinion) cheap (price, not quality) reprints of the phone 
books (which i think are a totally - hmmm, there's that word again - 
transcendent idea), i miss not having the covers reprinted as well (though
admittedly that would be pretty tough in the black & white newsprint
format).

bRant
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From: ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (kristoff)
Subject: Re: CV Extra : Superman to return in 2 weeks
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:45:17 GMT

My problems with the clone thing are:
     1) They tried this before and it didn't work.  The clones would Bizarro-fy
as seem in Byrne's Man of Steel series.  Why should Cadmus have any more 
success?

     2) A clone (someone correct me if I'm wrong here) is a duplicate based on 
genetic structure.  A clone of Superman could not be any of the mentioned races
(or heritages or whatever the proper PC word is this week). He would be 
Kryptonian.  Nuff said.

kristoff
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From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: Why Vertigo?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:58:05 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <C0K6sv.My3@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk> mapkjp@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Keith John Playford) writes:
>In the referenced article, dan@spiff.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Dan Parmenter) writes:
>>Unless Vertigo is offering creator-ownership  (which I doubt,
>>considering Swamp Thing is one of the titles, and that's been a real
>>cash cow for DC lately everywhere but in comics) then it can only
>>provide the illusion of change.  [...]
>
>Judging by the copyright notice inside the Vertigo preview, the new
>characters are, in fact, creator-owned.  

We'll see what happens when new projects *STARTED* *FOR* *DC* come along.
SEBASTIAN O, MERCY, and ENIGMA were all created for Touchmark, the high-end,
creator-owned imprint Disney hired Art Young away from DC to edit.  When
Disney reassessed its commitment to comics, it sold the projects to DC,
which rehired Art along with them.
-- 
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From: jrd@frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: MISC: President at Superman's Funeral (was Re: DC: President...)
Date: 12 Jan 1993 15:01:04 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Eric Akawie (eja@bio6.acpub.duke.edu) writes:

>Wasn't Bill Clinton in Elektra:Assasin?
>
>Oh, right, that was Ken Wind.  He just looks a lot like Clinton.

No, he looks a lot like Dan Quayle.

No, he looks a lot like John Kennedy.

(Frankly, Wind [not like a watch, but like the air...] doesn't look like any
of the views of Clinton I've seen.  Clinton's face is far too pudgy.)

------------------------------
                             |     When we walked into the lobby, there was a
Jim Drew                     | guy there, watching television.  Ron leaned over
jrd@frame.com                | the back of the couch and gave him a quick kiss.
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       |     "Hey, Tam," said Ron.  "What did *you* do
"Innocent, but not naive."   | last night?"
B(2)h t c k g+(p) rv p e     |     "Bob," replied Tam.
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  |     "That's a name," I said.
{opinions: mine != frame's}  |     "It's also an action," said Tam, smiling.
                             |		- Marc Lynx, "Gaol House Rock"
					(* This one's for Roger K. *)
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From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke)
Subject: Re: What if...
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:27:43 GMT

markp@microsoft.com (Mark Pennington) writes:
>In a recent issue, the cover boasted a picture of Ghost Rider with
>breasts and was titled, What If (the current Ghost Rider's sister
>whatever the heck her name is) Had become Ghost Rider.
> 
>Ghost Rider with breasts.
>
>Now it's been a while since my college anatomy classes, but I don't seem 
>to remember there being any bones in them there naughty bits.
>Personal experience would tend to bear me out.
>So why does this Ghost Rider have boobs?

	I asked a friend of mine the same question whilst in a comic
book store recently, and it's really quite simple: One could also ask
why the real Ghost Rider has Dan Ketch's muscles.  The mystical flame 
supposedly forms a body shape underneath the clothing.  Of course, being
a Marvel female character, Barbara Ketch's mammaries had to be evident
even through the leather jacket!
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From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Vertigo Preview
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:26:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>>      Someone PLEASE tell me that the guy who did the art in the Sandman
>>story won't be drawing the comic ever ever again! Lord that was wretched
>>looking stuff.
>
>Not when compared to what we've got now!


That's the damned truth.  Jill Thompson is TERRIBLE.  Even if the Gaiman
stories WERE any good (which they are not), I wouldn't touch the book because
she is so unskilled.  You'd be lucky if someone with Kent Williams talent was
doing the book.

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From: teo33398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor Zero)
Subject: Re: Is that Susan Richards' new costume?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:10:53 GMT


>jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:

>But there have been worse.  My vote for Fashion Impaired Character of All Time
>is Polaris,from her original black mesh to the most recent red and gold answer
>to Sue Richards 

	I LIKED that costume!!!  (Am I the only one?  Oh, well...)
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: The Future of Swamp Thing
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:58:59 GMT

lsmith@atto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>Given that Nancy Collins will probably be off the title by ST #140 (that's
>when her contract runs out) what changes would you make to the title?

Get any decent writer.  Drop the stupid repetitiveness.  There's only
so much "uh oh, evil corporation is at it again" stuff you can take.
And I can get less preachy and more informative envirostuff from some
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles specials.

-- 
Politeness, n: The most acceptable hypocrisy.
From: clive@snoopy.Aus.Sun.COM (Clive Blackmore - IR Australia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Valiant questions
Date: 11 Jan 1993 06:15:38 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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Summary: Magnus - Original

Keywords: 

To all,

In which comic, in Britain, did Magnus appear in the 60's ?

Clive 


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From: dat@thinkage.on.ca (David Adrien Tanguay)
Subject: Re: Cerebus #165  <SPOILERS!!>
Organization: Thinkage, Ltd.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 09:25:50 GMT

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
>BTW, you forgot to mention how the Pigts are turning into a female-dominated
>society.  This is significant.

Wasn't that the *last* man they were killing? Maybe there are some male
children left, but I think "dominated" is an understatement!
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dave Van Domelen)
Subject: Futuristic Pseudocussing
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:20:15 GMT

Actually, do you seriously expect the language of cussing to remain totally 
unchanged for over a hundred years?  Face it, what is strong language to us 
will be passe to our children when they reach our age, and will probably be 
considered quaint by the time our grandkids grow up.  Fuck will have faded into
obscurity and historical dramas, and even Shock seems on its way out, judging 
by how often it is used.  Hopefully PAD or one of the other 2099 writers will 
come up with a new phrase that can make most of the characters blush, and use 
it very infrequently and only in dire situations (Belgium, man!).
     Of course shock sounds like a lame version of fuck.  Most good expletives 
are single, concussive syllables you can shout before getting hit by that 
runaway flitter.  Longer curses are for special occasions like mainframe 
freezes, when you have time for a good long swear.  And shock sounds lame 
because whatever societal thingy that gave it power to, well, shock, hasn't 
happened yet.
     Dave Van Domelen, in one big ju-ju-flop situation