From: garrett@Ingres.COM (IF YOU CANNOT CONVINCE THEM, CONFUSE THEM)
Subject: Voice of reason (Re: Dan's BOOK!
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Date: 25 Jan 93 23:47:57 GMT

In article <C1Du6L.5CF@umassd.edu>, acsca@UMASSD.EDU                                           writes...
>Well, Not to make light of your troubles but, I bet You enjoyed the Movie
>Roger & Me
>(and I suppose you are from the midwest)

You're 90% right. Most of my family is from there.

>But as I type, Clinton is thinking about the "American Free-Trade agreement"
>Isn't it funny how Bill is agreeing with alot of Bush's policies.       
>(and most of the bad ones!!!) 

Won't argue with you there.

>    And remember Bush had been president for only 4 years, not 12
>    so you left wing communist democrats
> 
>    >Communist Democrats is an oxymoron (look in the dictionary if you don't 
>    >believe me). Kind of like political right-wing independent thought.
> 
>(you see, just because someone is not a Flaming liberal, you get all upset)
>I find that amusing
>
You're wrong there. I'm not upset, and I was only flaming because the person
before was throwing around useless dogma that had no relevance to reality.

>Look, I know you want Mario Quo-mo, sorry but the American public doesn't want him,
>And I don't think another flaming liberal will make it for a while.
>Just like they didn't want Carter a second time. 

Carter wasn't a flaming liberal. (Carter was the same man, unfortunantly,
that helped rebuild the Khmer Rouge, and El Salvador death squads. Hardly
flaming liberal material.)

>Bush didn't have a belief
>but Clinton/Gore
>scares me because, I don't know what's instore (as far as how much they lied) 
> 
Well it's the choice of the unknown and the devil you know. We already know
that Bush lied his arse off.
> 
>    >I'll agree with you there. He's far to moderate for me.
>    >> 
>    >>                                        catch you later
>    >-Garrett
> 
>I don't want to misquote you or anything but it seems to me that you believe
>that a "true liberal" would be this country's answer.
>    And that a moderate who is a democrat (Clinton), is O.K. 
>But a Republican moderate (Bush, who was occasionlly conservative) is bad.
>And even worse, a true conservative would be Disasterous. 
> 
I agree with everything you said, but Bush is a moderate at heart. I wouldn't
call the former head of the CIA "moderate".

>    Well, "liberal" today,
>does not mean "open-minded" as far as politics goes, it means they believe in:
> 
>Abortion on demand (up to 9 months)

Wrong. It's the first tri-mester. But I don't choice to get sucked into 
debating this.

>Tax the American people as much as we can
>return the money to the people but pay state workers to do it,
> and in a wasteful 
>  manner, on pork barrel projects

I once heard a man explain American politics to me, very simply.

Republicans take from the middle-class and give to the rich.
Democrats take from the middle-class and give to the poor.

Since I'm much closer to the latter than the former (as is most people in
the U.S. after 12 years of conservatives), I'll support the Democrats.

>Increase the salary of everyone, especially congress
>(regardless if they deserve it or not)

I haven't seen any republicans turning down those raises. Or even voting
against them.

>promote homosexuality

Caution: Republican 'buzz' phrase.

>degrade, and trivialize the Jewish, and Christian beliefs 
>  (which is what the Constitution was founded on) 

Caution: Republican bull.

>Make sure the Government controls everything
>Fill quota's

Whoa! Buzz phrase paradise.

>Dictate political correctness (Just spew bull shit)

Now, Now. We won't stand for this *filthy* language. We have "family values"
in this newsgroup.

>Label anyone who opposes their point of view "Close-minded, a Bigot,
>or a Facist"

Hey, this looks familiar. Didn't we chase you out of this group before?

>And Yes Danno is not that bright,
>but he's alot brighter than the liberals of today.

Oh! Stab me in the heart! That rapier wit!
> 
>                                Try to enjoy your 4 years, because they're 
>                                not going to get that much better.
>                                Just the voice of reason

Good Lord! The voice of reason is a Dan Quayle fan! We are doomed then.
> 
>                                catch you later
-Garrett
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