From: marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Marc Rassbach)
Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.diku
Subject: Re: Mud Review: Perilous Realms
Date: 4 Oct 1992 10:24:43 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
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In article <1992Oct03.234649.12790@CS.ORST.EDU> mohrc@CS.ORST.EDU (Craig Mohr) writes:
>In article <1al37mINNpa7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> au095@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Rosenjack) writes:
>>
>>Modifications: Next Generation?  This is the most confusing thing
>>               I have ever seen in my life.  The city is VERY 
>>               hard to get around in.  Somebody should explain to

>>Gods:          Typical assholes.  You die 3 times getting items and
>>               they take them away saying, 'That area isn't open 
>>               yet!'  If so, expalin to me how we went in and killed
>>               things?
>
>Ahh i love this one. 
>First off *YOU* didnt do anything but tag along with a lvl 87 char to get those
>items. your dying didnt do anything to you your only lvl 5. (because i GAVE you
>lvl 5). Second i told that player that the mobs were WAY WAY to weak and not to
>go into the area until it was ready. Third there was no point in me removing the
>entrance since there are several relocate spells that could reach that area just
>as easy.

If Sneezy is the site to be used as a comparison, some of the Gods there
could fall under your 'asshole' catagory.  Some are concerned with game
balance.  (Brutius)  Others are not.  At level 1, a high level approached
me and gave me a jeweled dagger.  At level 2  there was a crash, and 
Brutius re-imbursed me for exp, gold and mundane items.  Another god
gave me back the dagger.  I've bought 3 other daggers, (thus I feel
like I've earned them).  Matter of fact, I HAD told the god who re-imbursed
the dagger time #1 that I didn't feel I DESEREVED it.

So, by the descriptions above, does this make Brutius an Asshole?

I think not.  Just an Imp that worries about the overall quality of
his MUD.
>Overall:       I'll wait another 13 hours for a REAL mud, SneezyMUD
>>               on dumbo.cc.utexas.edu 7900.  Not your typical trap.
>>P.S. Sneezy is the BEST mud I have ever participated in.  GREAT Gods and
>>     players.  Give it a try!
>
>Please do. I wont put down another fellow imp (and friends) mud He does have
>some good ideas on his mud just as i have on mine. Make your own opinion.

Of this whole post, this is almost true.  The 'real'ness of a MUD
is subjective, and the site has moved for sneezy.cc.utexas.edu 7900
Otherwise, Sneezy is an alright place to be.  However.......

>The reason this posting came about was a level 9 and 7 char got pissed i wouldnt
>let them keep the best items in the game. I dont feel this is unreasonable and
>neither did anyone else on at the time. A balanced game is important, having a
>lvl 9 char that can kill a lich is not good for game balance.
>Unfortuanatly this has led me to decide to install a min lvl system for items,
>something i really didnt want to do, not because its hard just because i wanted
>to let my players handle things themselves. Well a few bad apples...

Exactly what happened at Sneezy.  1st level characters that walked about
with the One Ring and shadowshivs.  (rather nasty items, esp if you 
get hit with the Shadowshiv.)  Thusly Brutius implemented the min level
code.   Don't know if it works, but I'm getting high enough that the
couple of hi-rent items I DO have I will not have to worry.


Now, don't let a review like the above quoted one with a plug for
Sneezy stop you from visiting Sneezy.  The Imp (Brutius) cares 
(perhaps WAY to much) for the players and the game.  But I think
he has good reason to care....there is alot to be proud of about
Sneezy.

His little on-line debate about rent and the one about how 20
players is far too few to have a "good" MUD (This was at 3:00 AM...
Brut, we humans have to sleep.  Gods don't.  :-) shows to ME he gives
a damn.  And that's the biggest step to making a good MUD.


(And I'm not a 20th level on Sneezy, nor do I have killer rings
or equipment.  And I've been on 10 different MUDs before I got
'hooked' on Sneezy.  Of course your milage may vary....ask 
Strangler on Sneezy.   He got upset that the ringwaith showed up 
and wanted his One Ring back...and he was 10th level.)

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