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From: waltoml@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Re: Historical Award
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:35:54 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Bebo White <BEBO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:

> Last summer while visiting the Jamestown Historical Site, my
> Cub Scout son participated in a study project sponsored by the
> National Park Service. He had to walk around the site and complete
> a questionaire, attend several lectures and demonstrations, and
> talk to a ranger to indicate what he had learned.
> 
> The publicity for this program (at the Jamestown information desk)
> indicated that participation would satisfy the requirements for
> a Cub historical award/patch. I do not remember the exact title of
> the award.

The National Park Service has a special emblem available to Cub
(scouts) and others. It is their award and may be worn as a temporary
emblem on the right pocket centered. 

The BSA only has TWO Trail Awards, and NEITHER is available for Cub
Scouts to earn. The Historic Trails Award is an award presented to
Scouts and Explorers that complete specific requirements. The
Wilderness Trails Award is a similiar (and discontinued) award for
Scouts and Explorers. 

Check with the Park and see if they can order the emblem for you. 
 
> My local scout office/shop has no clue what I'm talking about. There
> was the suggestion that this was a patch offered by one of the districts
> in the vicinity of Jamestown (though I suspect this would be of little
> use to park visitors from all over the country).

The local Scout Shop only carries BSA items. 

Settummanque!

Mike L. Walton
Greenwood, Kentucky
From: rjt@softin.lonestar.org (Richard Threlkeld)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Re: should cub scout units have campouts?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:26:01 CST
Organization: Software Innovation, Arlington, Tx

macman@bernina.ethz.ch (Danny Schwendener) writes:

> kary@col.hp.com (Dan Kary) writes:
> 
> >[...] The BSA liability insurance does not cover den or pack
> >camping specifically because the leaders are not trained.  I know that
> >many Cub leaders are highly skilled in camping, but in order to make it
> >a part of the program, the BSA must provide training so that every leader
> >can be sufficiently trained to conduct a safe activity.  The safety of
> >the boys is the number one consideration.
> 
> So much for the BSA policy. But what is your personal opinion on it?
> Assuming that the leaders are skilled in camping, should they
> be able to set up a campout with their cubs?
>
Actually, our council (Longhorn) has a "Certified Camper" training and 
certificate for adults who wish to take younger Cub Scouts (6-9 years) 
camping.  We train all Webelos leaders in camping and other outdoor 
activities as part of their required training.  This is slightly different
since their boys are older and we are trying for a transition to Boy
Scouts.
From: choffman@adobe.com (Charles Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Pinewood Derby Software
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:20:15 GMT

In article <5zr3+f_@rpi.edu> meyerc2@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Chris_Meyers) writes:
>        Has anyone heard of a PC-based package for managing a pinewod
>derby?  

IMHO...

Running a pinewood derby as a real race is enjoyable only for the winners and
for competative parents.  When we were Cubs the ages were from 8 to 10, now 
the age range is from 6 to 10.  The younger boys have a much harder time with
the trials of competition, especially with an event like pinewood derby where
luck has so much influance on the outcome.  (Sticky wheels, warped track, etc.)

Our pack tried single and double elimination tournaments in the past, and found
that the younger boys often got discouraged with the entire program when they 
were eliminated from this "great event" after only one or two races.  

We now have a more open racing format.  Each boy is given a small booklet of
Racing Tickets for seven heats.  The first heat has each boy racing within his
den.  The second heat has each boy racing within his age group.  Thereafter 
the heats are open racing, though we do ask the Dad Cars to wait till the 
latter heats.  No boy can race in heat 2 until all boys have raced in heat 1.

Our repair table gets a steady workout not only to fix wreaks, but also to 
allow the boys to experiment with design changes. We also present each racer
a simple wooden mounting stand, and an assortment of stickers that our Pack
calligrapher will use to inscribe the cars' name or other designation that the
boy wishes.  (No 1st, 2nd, 3rd places though)

We have found that with the elimination of "official" pressure, the boys 
natural competitiveness still comes out, and our leaders can work with the boys
to develop sportsmanship. The boys set their own competition to determine the 
fastest car, and we noticed less envy and more admiration. :)  As a result we 
had only two young tigers who were disheartened over the derby.  

We also inject other Cubbing activities.  Songs, announcements, and so on. 
This year our pack moved our pinewood derby from the normal Friday night pack
meeting to a Saturday afternoon to allow the boys to race to their hearts 
delight.

Charles Hoffman, Webelos Den Leader, Asst Cubmaster, Pack 603, San Lorenzo, CA
                          You are not judged by how much you love,
choffman@adobe.com        but by how much you are loved by others.  - G.P. Oz


Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: Christine_Code@mindlink.bc.ca (Christine Code)
Subject: 2 fun rhymes for kids
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:41:11 GMT

Hi again!

Last night our area music advisers showed up to teach us some new songs.
Well, no point giving you the words to the songs, since you'd need the music
too, and I'm not about to type THAT in.  But...

We did two really fun rhymes, and here they are:

------------------------------------------------
1000 hairy savages
Sitting down to lunch
Gobble gobble, glump glump,
Munch, munch munch!

The girls loved this.  First the leader did it in a more or less normal
voice, and got the girls to the point where they could recite it with her.
Then she modified it each time 'round.  They did it with an English accent,
an Australian accent, a southern USA accent, and then in different dramatic
ways according to the girls' suggestions - scary, sleepy, etc.   Everybody
liked it, but I'd say the brownies (ages 6 to 9) were most enthusiastic.
-------------------------------------------------

A way down south, not very far
A jay bird died of the WHOOPing cough
He WHOOPED so hard with the WHOOPING cough
That he WHOOPED his head and tail right off.

You'll use up some energy with this one!   Everybody crouches down with
fingers touching the floor.  Every time you come to a WHOOP, everybody
springs up to a standing position, with hands way up above your heads.  Then
you quickly return to a crouching position, only to spring up again at the
next whoop.  This is exhausting!   Good for those squirmy little kids...  it
was very popular, too.



--

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Christine Code                 *
                               *  "A bear, however hard he tries,
Vancouver, B.C, CANADA         *   Grows tubby without exercise."
Christine_Code@MindLink.bc.ca  *                   -A.A. Milne
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From: mbess@phobos.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Re: Eagle Ceremonies
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:08:15 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: phobos.unm.edu


	When I was in Scouts we used to ask as many as the old Eagle Scouts back to the court of honor to form what we called the Eagles Nest. They would all say something about their Scouting experience or about being an Eagle and give a few words of wisdom. After you have recieved your award you were allowed to take your place in the Eagle's Nest.
From: Simon Jerram<EEE90053@IBM3090.BHAM.AC.UK>
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Traditional Scouting
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:25:20 GMT
Organization: Birmingham University, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: ibm3090.bham.ac.uk

==============================================================================
I've seen a lot of talk flying about about people  who prefer "traditonal"
scouting.  How does this differ from what isnt, and how doorganisations
such as the Baden-Powel Scouts differ from the main progressing organisations?

Simon C Jerram
Chairman, University of Birmingham Scout and Guide Club
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: jeanc@distri.hydro.qc.ca (Jean Cote)
Subject: Quebec scouts ISO Europeen scouts
Organization: Hydro-Quebec
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:49:02 GMT

Hello,
	I am a scout master of a group of 8 boy scout member
of 80 ieme troupe eclaireur St-Leonard (near Montreal) in 
the FSE (Federation du scoutisme Europeen) who
project to do our summer camp (beginning of august 93) in 
Europe (France, Belgium, Germany).  I will like to contact
some other scout master who will like to meet us this summer.
I prefer to talk with some people who work in the tradionnal way
of scouting

reply by E-mail please

	Jean Cote RS
		scoutmaster.
----------------------------------------------------------------
Bonjour,
	Je suis le chef d'une petite troupe de 8 garcons de 12 a 16 ans
membre de la FSE (Federation du scoutisme Europeen).  Nous sommes presentement
entrain de preparer notre prochain camp d'ete.  Nous voulons aller camper en 
Europe (debut du mois de aout).  Nous voulons visiter la France, la Belgique et
l'Allemagne.  Nous aimerions entrer en contact avec d'autre unite europeenne 
oeuvrant dans le scoutisme tradionnel si possible.

svp veuillez me contacter par E-mail
	Jean Cote RS
		chef de la 80ieme troupe Eclaireurs St-Leonard (Montreal).

jeanc@distri.ireq.hydro.qc.ca

Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: drh@unccsun.uncc.edu (drew hartman)
Subject: Re: Pinewood Derby Software
Reply-To: drh@unccsun.uncc.edu (drew hartman)
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:57:06 GMT


My dad used the PC-based package called Racing Manager, this weekend in
our pack
derby. I was not there for the race with 80+ cubs  (thank God :-) ),
but he said it worked out real well.  they started racing around 9:00am
and was
done around 12:00-12:30pm.  I did set up and test program the night
before
since they ran it on my computer.   The basic jist of the program is
that you
type all the reacers into the programs database.  It then races every
one in
the database, one time down the track, starting with the first name in
the
database.  It then groups the cars by time, and races slower cars with
slower
cars and faster cars with faster cars.  It races the slower cars first
and keeps
track of changing lanes for each cars.  In all, the number of cars that
you have
racing equals the total number of races that you do. I.e.  you have 80
cars, then
you have 80 races down the track, then you are done.  The winner is
based on the
avg time it took to go down all the different tracks.  In my case, we
have a 
four lane track, so the winner was the one with the fastest avg time for
the four
tracks.  This is a whole lot faster then the old double elmination
bracket 
method, but you must inform the audience that, just becuase a particular
car
never 'loses' a heat, it's not nescessarily going to win it all.  Dad
said he 
posted a list of times for all the parents and cubs to see and had no
complaints.
If I remember correct, I think the top 4 finishers were within .005 secs
of each
other.  Try calling that by eye!  All in all, I like the program,
however, I do
think author could improve the finish line contacts.  Right now he uses
metalic
hinges in the track.  When I car comes down the track, it hits the
hinge, closing
the contact, and stopping the timer.  We had to bend our hinges back
pretty far 
to prevent other cars in neighboring lanes from blowing them over.  The
hinges
also seemed to chip the fronts of the cars.  The Program is not
shareware.  Its
pretty expensive, from what my dad said.  ($40-$50)  It comes with a
card to fit
in any ibm pc compatible, (no ps models), the hinges to put on the track
and the
starting piece which attaches to the relase handle.  I'm going home this
weekend
and I can find out how much he paid exactly and where he got it, if
anyone is 
interested, just email me, and I'll reply back sometime sunday. 

Drew Hartman
drh@mosaic.uncc.edu

I hate this dang computer, I wish that they would sell it!
It never does just what I mean, But always what I tell it! 8-) 

Newsgroups: rec.scouting,rec.answers,news.answers
From: jimbo@ee.ualberta.ca (Row Jimmy)
Subject: need help with cub campfire program
Reply-To: jimbo@ee.ualberta.ca (Row Jimmy)
Organization: University of Alberta Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:34:47 GMT


greetings all,

i am a cub scout leader here in the city of edmonton, alberta. i have
been selected ;-) to lead our campfire on our winter camp at the end of
the month and i am looking for ideas. our pack is getting familiar with
the so-called "traditional" campfire programs and so i am looking for a
few suggestions for some alternative programs... anybody have any ideas
for: stories, songs, or fire starting tricks that are a little bit 
"different"?

thanks for any help,
			jim (akela @ 196th lakewood pack)
			DYB DYB DYB !

-- 
Jim Bauer                               jimbo@ee.ualberta.ca
Medical Laser Lab                       alberta!bode!jimbo
University of Alberta 136 Civil Elect   Voice (403)492-1489
Edmonton, Alberta Canada  T6G 2G7       Fax   (403)492-1811
From: dsnoek@terapin.com (Daniel Snoek)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Eagle Ceremonies
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:45:57 PST
Organization: BBS

I was curious what kind of Eagle ceremonies other troops do.  When I got my
Eagle last year May, I had the choice of ceremony and after looking at the
various ceremonies available, I choose the traditional ceremony that our troop
has been using about a decade (as far as I know).  I found the ceremonies that
our scoutmaster had in some BSA publication to assist leaders were corny and,
laughable in many ways.  What kind of ceremony are done in other troops?
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
From: jimbo@ee.ualberta.ca (Row Jimmy)
Subject: any sermon ideas for scout sunday service?
Reply-To: jimbo@ee.ualberta.ca (Row Jimmy)
Organization: University of Alberta Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:36:35 GMT


hello again ;-)

coming up in february, i have been delegated to speak the sermon at our
scout sunday church service, it will be at a lutheran church here in 
edmonton alberta. i am in the "conceptualization stages" right now :-)
and am looking for good seed ideas... anyone out there done this before?
could you point me in some direction so i don't look like a complete
dummy when i meet with our pastor to discuss my (still in progress) ideas?

thanks for any help,
		    jim (akela @ 196 lakewood pack)
		    "be prepared" ;-)

-- 
Jim Bauer                               jimbo@ee.ualberta.ca
Medical Laser Lab                       alberta!bode!jimbo
University of Alberta 136 Civil Elect   Voice (403)492-1489
Edmonton, Alberta Canada  T6G 2G7       Fax   (403)492-1811
From: waltoml@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Re: Honorary President of the BSA
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:49:10 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

dsnoek@terapin.com (Daniel Snoek) writes:

> I received my Eagle May last year and on the gold credit card sized Eagle Scout
> card it has George Bush's signature as Honorary President of the Boy Scouts of
> America.  When my older brother received his Eagle over 4 years ago, his card
> said Ronald Reagan for Honorary President.  My question is, will Bill Clinton,
> the current president be the Honorary President like his predecessors? Or will
> he not do that else he will piss off the special interest groups that he
> represents?  I have a friend who is going to get his Eagle shortly I like
> joking about who is going to be on his Eagle Card. :-)

One of the last actions that Chief Scout Executive Ben Love did was
to go to Little Rock, and present William Clinton with a Scout Shirt,
complete with gold shoulder loops, a World Crest emblem, and the
emblem of the National President.  At that time, Bill Clinton signed
his name to several BSA documents, among them the Silver Buffalo,
Beaver, World and Antelope Awards, the Distinguished Eagle Scout
Award, the Eagle Scout Award, and the heroism awards.  Bill Clinton
also received a complete Scout uniform, presented by the National
Youth Representative, copies of the Official Scout Handbook and the
Fieldbook by the incoming National OA Chief, and a copy of the annual 
report of the BSA, presented by John Clendendin, the National
President of the BSA.   Clendendin also presented Clinton with the
certificate that all Council Presidents receive, because he is also
the "president" of the National Council, BSA.

This is an honor accorded to each President of the United States. 

Be assured, that if you receive a 1993 version of the Eagle Scout
Certificate (and the card) will bear Bill Clinton's signature along
with the signature of the new Chief Scout Executive (I forgot his
name) and National President. 

BTW, I posted back in November that Bill Clinton, as far as we know,
has never been involved in Scouting, though he was a member of several
Council Executive Boards.  _Scouting_ is supposed to have something on 
his background in the coming month's edition. 

Settummanque!

Mike L. Walton
Greenwood, Kentucky
From: ae110@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Frank Bates)
Newsgroups: rec.scouting
Subject: Re: Value of Boy Scout novels?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 07:40:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ae110@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Frank Bates)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, DRPORTER@SUVM.SYR.EDU (Brad Porter) says:

>I have two Boy Scout novels that I'm curious about:
> 
>                  "Boy Scouts Courageous"
>                  Franklin K. Mathiews
>                  Copyright 1918, 1917 - 1914
>                  Publishers:  Barse & Co.
>                  Condition:  Not mint, but binding is fully intact.
> 
>                  "The Boy Scouts in A Trapper's Camp"
>                  Thornton W. Burgess
>                  Copyright 1927, 1915
>                  The Penn Publishing Company, Philadelphia
>                  Condition:  Same as above
>                  Notes:  I guess this is the fourth book in a series Including
>                          "The Boy Scouts of Woodcraft Camp"
>                          "The Boy Scouts on Swift River"
>                          "The Boy Scouts on Lost Trail"
> 
>If anyone knows anything about these books, their relative worth, history, #'s
>published, where to find others in the series, etc.  Please respond through the
>net, or to my email address (DRPORTER@SUVM.ACS.SYR.EDU)
>                                  -Brad Porter
>Eagle Scout '92
>Brotherhood '92
>Nischa Nitis Lodge 410 Publications Chairman
>Hiawatha Council, New York
>
  I remember reading a book (can't remember which) that spoke of a couple of
publishing houses that produced books of Scouts having adventures, much along
the line of the Hardy Boys series.  I recall that this was a fairly short
lived set of books for what ever reason (depression?) but your copyright
dates indicate that may not be the case.
  Good luck on your quest!

Frank Bates
Scoutmaster, Troop 306 Mentor Ohio
Chagrin Valley District
Northeast Ohio Council, BSA
-- 
Frank J. Bates, Jr.      Internet: ae110@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
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2025 Ontario St          "We have not inherited the earth from our parents;
Cleveland OH 44115-1063   we are borrowed it from our children" - unknown
From: faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Doonesbury-Joanie and Zoe
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:06:28 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams) writes:


>Trivia time here:
>Is this the first time Gary Trudeau has ever gotten "burned" on
>a strip - i.e. did strips based on what he thought would occur,
>but got it wrong? 

	I don't know for sure, but I do remember the delightful strip he
	did the right after the election Bush won where he had mark and
	his radio partner sadly discussing all the bad things they foresaw
	happening.  The last panel read something like "We must look
	pretty dumb if he didn't win." To which Mark responds, "Be worth it
	though."
>
>
"You realize that if they catch us they will beat us, torture us, and kill us?"
  "So, you are suggesting we go home?"
 "No, this is more fun." ---The two brownies from Willow

-- 
Ted Faber		Figment at Large		  faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu
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From: monitn@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Nicholas Monitto)
Subject: Re: Drabble and Fox Trot
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:53:10 GMT

sie_0180@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Bruce Rechichar) writes:

>Hello, out there!  Does anyone like the Drabble and Fox Trot strips
>Iam new to the group and I was wondering if there is any fans
>out there like me.

Fox Trot!! Way cool strip! :)
I bought the 'Paige and Pierre' calendar for this year. It's cool, but it took
a bit of time to translate each frame.
(each picture is a single cartoon with Pierre saying something "French" and
Paige going "ooh, Pierre")

Nick
monitn@rpi.edu


>Bruce...

>    --- How much for your women? ---- Jake Blues.....
From: organic@mgr.hjf.org (Miriam Organic)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: For Better or Worse
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:48:53 GMT
Organization: HJF AIDS Research Project, Washington DC

In article <1jrnibINNr5h@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> mworley@mathcs.emory.edu (Meg Worley) writes:
>Help, folks!  We only get FBOW on the w.e., so I
>don't know what Michael *did* to the car.
>
>Rage away,
>
>meg
>
>-- 
>
> Meg Worley 				Internet:  mworley@mathcs.emory.edu		

I don't think he "did" anything I think he just got lost.
From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Matt McIrvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: How to pronounce Zoe?
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:23:10 GMT

flournoy@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Raymond Suke Flournoy) writes:

>  Every Zoe I've ever had contact with has pronounced this to rhyme
>with Joey.  In fact, I've seen this spelled with an umlaut, which (in
>some circumstances) is meant to show that two vowels are pronounced as
>distinct syllables (I think).

Indeed.  It's the French trema, actually, that does this (it looks
just like an umlaut).  Zoe Baird's name is spelled with one of those,
at least in the New York Times, over the e; this would seem to imply
two syllables, though in French the e is undoubtedly not pronounced
the way English speakers would.

-- 
Matt McIrvin
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
From: heetj@ihspb.att.com (45261-Heet)
Subject: Mr. Boffo
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:45:30 GMT


Does anybody know how many "Mr Boffo" books that 
writer Joe Martin has published ??? I have one
(entitled "Mr Boffo -- Unclear on the Concept") and
wish to acquire more, but have been unable to find
any more.

Any ideas ???

Jerry Heet
att!ihspb!heetj
From: sie_0180@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Bruce Rechichar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Drabble and Fox Trot
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:30:57 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona

Hello, out there!  Does anyone like the Drabble and Fox Trot strips
Iam new to the group and I was wondering if there is any fans
out there like me.

Bruce...

    --- How much for your women? ---- Jake Blues.....
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