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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:17:02 EDT
From:         gaynet@GALLIFREY.KENT.EDU
Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 19

In this issue:
                            Quayle on C-Span
                                L.L.Bean
                                sign up
                    GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 18
                     Miss M and the Chilli Peppers

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From: jasonl5493@aol.com
Subject: Quayle on C-Span
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 19:31:17 EDT

Homophobic Dan Quayle will be on a C-Span call-in show on Friday
at 10:30 am Eastern.

Call him and zap him on Gay Issues!

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:15:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Medlin <jmedlin@u.washington.edu>
Subject: L.L.Bean
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Braddlee

An uncomfortable idea struck me as I was reading your post about Linda
Bean's anti-GLB activities and your decision to drop your patronization of
the LLBean business as a result.  If the homophobia is not a company
policy, but a personal one pertaining to one board member, is it just to
punish the company?  to what extent do her beliefs affect company policy?
I confess that I never heard of her, although of course I'm familiar with
LL Bean.  to what extent are one's personal beliefs/prejudices a matter of
public concern?  On the other hand, if one is a well-known queer-basher
and publicly identified with some product (Anita Bryant and orange juice,
to name a dated example), the relevance of one's beliefs to the public
becomes obvious.  I guess since I don't know Linda, and therefore don't
know anything about her activities and their association with LLB, I feel
your campaign against the company is a little baseless.  But it's an
interesting topic, which is why I copied it to the net as well.

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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 21:31:56 -0500
From: adkisson@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Rob Adkisson)
Subject: sign up

I lost the "proper" address for sign up requests, but please sign me
up!!!!
Rob

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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 92 00:26:34 EDT
From: Bill Beeman <WBEEMAN@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
Subject:      Re: GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 18

In reply to Donna M. Riley's request for materials on gay
parenting and gay families, everyone should get hold
of Kath Weston's wonderful book FAMILIES WE CHOOSE,
an ethnographic study of lesbian and gay kinship.
(Columbia U. Press, 1991).  This book was awarded
a Ruth Benedict prize in anthropology.  In it she
shows how gay and lesbian couples are constructing
their own notions of kinship by drawing on symbolisms
of friendship, love and biology.  Great reading!!

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From: MPA15AB!RANDY@TRENGA.tredydev.unisys.com
Date: 11 SEP 92 05:19
Subject: Re: Miss M and the Chilli Peppers

Loren Meissner <lmeissne@u.washington.edu> writes:

> On Miss Manners: My main objection to Miss Manners is that (as I read the
> article) she is puting the onus on the individual to keep one's private
> life private. I would put the onus on the EMPLOYER....

My reading of what she wrote was that she was NOT putting the burden on the
employee to keep quiet.  As I recall, she called for redirecting the effort
now spent on finding out about and disapproving of people's private lives
into taking action against misconduct on the job.

I don't think she made her point very well, but what I got from reading it
was that she feels:

   (1) Only job performance and on-the-job conduct is important in one's job--
       one's private life has nothing to do with it

   (2) People should keep their private lives private, and not expect approval
       from the public

   (3) The only exception to (2) is to announce one's social partner, although
       this action can lead to disapproval from others (who don't like one's
       choice of mate for any reason)

   (4) If someone disapproves of someone else's private life, fine.  Just don't
       act on that feeling.

I'm not saying I agree with her 100%, but I see her point, and would like to
see those who disagree do so on the basis of what her actual position is.

(Of course, I could have misread her, just as I accuse others of doing)


> I saw the Chilli Pepper grab up under the shirt during the MTV Music
> Awards yesterday. I don't know what that "proves", re: sexuality of
> the Peppers. I have seem similar "horsing around among "straight" men in
> various "straight" gyms and among seemingly "straight" men in the Navy.

I didn't think the Peppers were gay, I was just wondering about their conduct,
especially the simulated sucking on the lecturn.


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