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From: SHERWOO@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Attention MATERIALS SCIENTISTS, PHYSICISTS, CHEMISTS
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:57:00 GMT
Distribution: fj

We are still accepting applications for our intensive summer program
in Technical Japanese for Materials Scientists and Engineers.
Many individuals in physics and chemistry may also be eligible for
this course. The course will run during the eight-week period from
June 15 to August 7, and there is financial assistance available.
The goal of the course is to enable people in materials science and
related fields to read the technical Japanese literature in their
field of specialty. Applicants should have the equivalent of a minimum
of two years of college Japanese. A proficiency test will be administered
at or near the applicant's home institution to measure Japanese
language ability. Anyone who is interested should contact Sue Sherwood
at tel. 253-8095, fax. 258-7432, e-mail sherwoo@mitvma.mit.edu
From: kaneko@TENET.ICSI.BERKELEY.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: ankeeto
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:21:14 GMT
Distribution: fj

In article <9204091346.AA18928@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
>1. yokohama-kouzyou no seisanryou ga ninenkan hueta.
>1.1. kono bun o "seisanryou ga ninenkan huetuzuketa" to iu imi ni toremasuka?
>     sizen( ) husizen(x)
>1.2. kono bun o "seisanryou ga ninenkan moto no seisanryou o uwamawatte ita" to
>     iu imi ni toremasuka?
>     sizen( )   husizen(x)

The sentence 1 itself doesn't sound natural to me. I feel
some "jyoshi" should be added after "ninenkan". If you add
"de" the meaning will mean 1.2, and if you add samething like
"no aida" it will mean 1.1. BTW, the explanation of 1.2 is
also unnatural. Not "moto" but "mae", I think.

>2. yokohama-kouzyou no seisanryou ga huete iru.
>2.1. kono bun o "seisanryou ga zouka-situzuketeiru" to iu imi ni tukaemasuka?
>     sizen(x)   husizen( )
>2.2. kono bun o "moto no seisanryou o uwamawaru (ittei no) seisanryou ga
>     tamotarete iru" to iu imi ni toremasuka?
>     sizen( )   husizen(x)

2.2 is "hushizen". But the sentence 2 doesn't have a clear meaning
like 2.1. In some semantics, it might mean 1.2, and won't have nuance
of continuous increase.

>3. huzigawa no mizukasa ga 3-zikande hueta.
>   sizen( ) husizen(x)
>   question: nani-ga 3-zikan kakattaka, omoiataru bamen o kaite kudasai.

The sentence 3 itself doesn't sound natural to me, either.
I think you have to add some explanation how the water level
was increased (like one feet). Bacause "de" in "3-jikande"
suggests that the sentence alludes "it took 3 hours that water
level increased to xxxxx." The sentence 3 lacks xxxxx part.

Seiji Kaneko  kaneko@icsi.Berkeley.EDU,kaneko@sdl.hitachi.co.jp
..................................... 76270.2466@compuserve.com
From: mgilula@MIASUN.MED.MIAMI.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Work & Study in Japan
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:22:04 GMT
Distribution: fj

I just returned from Tokyo....still jet-laggy...... :-[

but the stories aboutthe hundreds of Iranian men in their 20s and 30s
who hang out in Ueno Park.  I have heard that flights between Teheran and Tokyo
are booked with Iranians coming to Japan for illegal work.

company prefers
illegal foreign workers to Japanese for day labor on construction jobs, because
the government requires that Japanese day laborers get a wage sufficient to pay
for a place for them to live.  There is, of course, no such requirement for
illegal immigrants.  In my friend`s opinion, this has increased the ranks of
homeless among Japanese at the margin.
------------------------------------------

All of the above is TRUE...and is a dramatic change for the usually
 well-controlled
country.  At least there are no Americans "over there" fighting the Iranians for
 the
menial and dangerous jobs.  But the dangers in Tokyo at night have already
 allegedly
increased 1000$

I meant 1000%.....but maybe the $   IS INDEED the reason as explained by my
Japanese friends.

-73-
Marshall Gilula
From: TALLEY@AP433101.EMIS.HAC.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Nifty Serve
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:27:11 GMT
Distribution: fj

*** Reply to note of 04/15/92 11:28
If you're going on Nifty Serve there, you should practice first on
Compu Serve while you are here.  If you do that, you will find a
number of Nifty Serve subscribers on the FLEFO forum (Foreign Language
Education FOrum).  They can answer all your questions, and it is
a frequent topic on the CIS FLEFO forum.
From: James_E._Grigsby.ES_M7@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Computer toka no shitsumon
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:12:44 GMT
Distribution: fj

Re: Current Changer
Any commercial current changer should work.

Re: Surge Protector
I'd advise a surge protector for any machine, anywhere

Re: Cheap DOS Nihongo SW
MOKE from Ki-Comp-Ware is around $70. , you can enter romaji, hiragana,
katakana and (with a control character lookup sequence) Kanji.  The help and
menus are in English.  Both dot-matrix and HP II laser output are supported.
They claim PostScript support, but it doesn't work with the certified
PostScript printers I've tried (Texas Instruments and Xerox).  Another drawback
is the user-interface which is somewhat clumsy and UNIX-like.  But, for the
price, it's a great package.

The only other DOS package in this price range is SMART CHARACTERS, which is an
interesting learning tool (has hypertext kanji lookup and translation,
flashcard drills, and furigana characters) but has incredibly ugly (LOW-RES)
screen and printer fonts.  It goes for around $80.

Other packages for DOS,  DOSV, and NIHONGO DOS are around $500. - $900. and are
made for natives (menus and help are in Japanese).
From: mog7121@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Nifty Serve
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:26:34 GMT
Distribution: fj

In sci.lang.japan you write:

>Does anyone know about Nifty Serve in Japan?  I am looking to find out how
>expensive it is, and whether or not it can send mail to the InterNet or
>BitNet here in the US.  I will be in Japan this summer and again in January,
>and there are a few people who I would like to keep in touch with using
>email.  Or is there another service available that I should know about?
...deleted
>Kevin Lisota

If you use Compuserve, you can access it from networks in japan.  I heard
Compuserve will charge each mail you send to Internet addr.  But you
will be charged as much as 35 dollars / hour for the network usage, though.
For more info. contact Compuserve.

mo.

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From: COX%HWS.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Japanese language houses
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:29:51 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hello,
     I was wondering if anyone out there in netland has heard of, worked on,
lived in, or had anything to do with language houses. I hope so, because we
(a group of students here at Hobart and William Smith Colleges) want to
start a Japanese language house.  We need all the info that we can get,
because we need to convince the admin. adn Res. Life. So if anyone has any info
please don't hesitate to email me.  I will pass along any info that people
want.  Thanks in advance for your help,

                                       Dan
                                   COX@HWS.BITNET
From: thalawyn@RM105SERVE.SAS.UPENN.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Honya denwa bango
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:53:48 GMT
Distribution: fj


   Sasaki-sensei;
   I feel so stupid at having tossed out or recycled the bags I had from
Kinokunya and Asahiya from USA stores since they listed the addresses and
telephone numbers for all the US branhces.  I do have business cards from 2
of them though.

   Asashiya in Elmhurst, Illinois     708-228-9851

   (oops..this second one is the New Jersey Kinokunya..and you said you already
have those...for those who don't it's 201-941-7580...in Edgewater NJ...next to
New York City but at a safe distance ^_^)
   I know there is an Asahiya in LA which you should easily be able to get by
calling directory assistance for that area code (213-555-1212)
   Thalawyn
From: mrc@TOMOBIKI-CHO.CAC.WASHINGTON.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: re: Japanese OS
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:44:59 GMT
Distribution: fj

There's a small problem with the suggestion to `get yourself a -486 machine
and purchase NeXTStep 3.0 for the best Japanese language (all four alphabets)
OS'.

You can not, at present, buy NeXTstep for a -486.
You can not, at present, buy NeXTstep 3.0 for any platform.
You can not, at present, buy the Japanese NeXTstep outside of Japan.

'486 NeXTstep will set you back $1K for a `user system' and $2.5K for a
`developer system' (i.e. something you can write programs on)...when it is
available.

Since NeXTstep 3.0 has not been released, we have no good way of knowing
whether or not 3.0 is a winner.  In general, 2.0 was much less reliable than
1.0; 2.1 was a minor improvement.  Unfortunately, 1.0 did not run on 68040
based machines so the option to stick with a stable OS did not exist.

There have been some distressing reports about the Japanese NeXTstep.  Among
other things, the $BJQ49(J (kana/kanji conversion) front end processor of
Japanese NeXTstep is rumored to be only mediocre.  Furthermore, it is reported
that Japanese NeXTstep, *if* it ever becomes available for NeXTs purchased
outside of Japan, will cost in the neighborhood of $2.5K.  The given reason
for this is the high cost of Japanese PostScript fonts.

At the present time, most people outside of Japan doing Japanese processing on
a NeXT are using the public-domain kterm, Wnn, and nemacs software with truly
ugly fonts for bitmap->PostScript printing.

On the Macintosh, you can buy KanjiTalk for $400.  It is System 6 based, but
what you do is first install KanjiTalk, then install System 7 on top of that,
then installed the wonderful GomTalk compatibility package that patches
KanjiTalk so it will run under System 7.  It all works like a champ.
From: masseyj@NOVAVAX.NOVA.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re:  East-West Music mixture
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:56:02 GMT
Distribution: fj

I have indeed heard of and heard Tama, and think they might have an audience
among alternative music listeners in the US.  Shang Shang Typhoon I have never
heard; how can I get a recording?  It' s true about the "idols", I'm afraid.
Thanks for the info!

Jim Massey
Nova University
From: Thomas_Dicorcia.ISO-SV@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Work & Study in Japan
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:48:39 GMT
Distribution: fj

Dan,
A book on the subject of working in Japan was recently published by the
American Society of Mechanical Engineers (head office in New York City).  It is
a compilation of pieces by several engineers who have worked, or are working in
Japan.  Plus, a couple of articles provide some statistical information.
I would guess that another useful source for your paper would be articles in
the weekly Nikkei Economic Times, published in English.  They sell it at
Kinokuniya bookstores.  But what you need is a library that keeps back issues,
and an index.  Can`t help you there.
A fascinating topic would be the hundreds of Iranian men in their 20s and 30s
who hang out in Ueno Park.  I have heard that flights between Teheran and Tokyo
are booked with Iranians coming to Japan for illegal work.  I see potentials
problems brewing in this situation, where there is a severe language and
culture gap, inadequate pay for decent living accomodations, and no resources
to help avoid problems.  I`m not saying that the Japanese should be responsible
for assimilating these illegal workers, but there is a potential problem if
frustration leads to violence.
I asked a friend of mine who works for a Japanese utility about the few
homeless Japanese that I saw in Tokyo.  He said that his company prefers
illegal foreign workers to Japanese for day labor on construction jobs, because
the government requires that Japanese day laborers get a wage sufficient to pay
for a place for them to live.  There is, of course, no such requirement for
illegal immigrants.  In my friend`s opinion, this has increased the ranks of
homeless among Japanese at the margin.  I imagine it also encourages more
illegal immigration.  The fact that a well known utility is able to engage in
this practice on a regular basis tells me that the Japanese government is
closing one eye to the problem.
Tom
From: richie@ENGIN.UMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: MEIKO
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:45:38 GMT
Distribution: fj

In article <9204071037.AA04749@bloom-beacon.MIT.EDU> you write:
> There is a piece of parallel-computing hardware called a MEIKO-surface
> (although most people seem to pronounce it MAIKO). The name is supposed
> to be a real japanese word, but does anyone know what it could mean? I
> have heard that it may mean "well engineered" - is this so?
>
>                 Thanks.


It would be better if I can see the kanji.
However, "meikou" can mean a master-hand or an expert workman, a skillful
craftsman.
The "mei" in meikou is the kanji "na" in namae (name).
The "kou" is the same "kou" in kougaku (engineering).

Staney
From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!darwin.sura.net!convex!convex!datri@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Anthony A. Datri)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: Re: Boot volume on 9000/710:  Must I go HP drive?
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:46:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Return-Path: <apollo-list-errors@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>


>3rd party external SCSI II drive as a boot volume?  Or must I purchase
>the internal HP drive?  

I think what the install really wants is one of the drives that it explicitly
knows about.  Our 750's have been coming with Micropolis drives.


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Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: Palladium2 Build problems. HELP!
Date: 25 Mar 92 08:21:12 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Philips Public Telecommunications Systems, Melbourne, Australia

We are trying to install palladium2 on our HP9000-800 series, and we
are having real troubles getting it to build. We are finding the
installation notes a bit unclear, for example on page 2 of the BL6_2
release notes, they suggest that: 

"...Standard Error is silent for success, and prints

	Building Tools failed
or
	Building Palladium failed on a build failure."

but don't explain what to start looking at when you get these
messages!  We have played around with some different configurations,
but none seem to have any useful effect.

As a related question, we also want to know HOW to tell the Build script
to use the hp.cf file in the config directory, in all of our searching
we have found nothing regarding this at all.

If you have ANY information about this at all I would love to hear
from you!

Thanks in advance
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Philips Public Telecommunications Systems    Phone: +61 3 8813731
Melbourne, Australia      		       Fax: +61 3 8813577
From: ftpbox!mothost!schbbs!turner%ssdt-tempe.sps.mot.com@uunet.uu.net (Robert Turner)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: Music making software, play.c
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:32:51 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Semiconductor Systems Design Technology, Motorola, Tempe AZ
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I was digging around in some old sources and found a program called
play.c.  The program is supposed to play "music" on a 425.  It was
so long ago this may even be a SR9.7 program, but I think I got it
after migrating to SR10+.


The source will not compile, and even if it did play.c calls for a
device "/dev/rhil".  We don't seem to have "rhil". Our manuals,  a
seemingly small subset of the total manual set, yeilds no information
relating to sound, music, device rhil, EFTSBP, or ioctl (beyond man
and sys/ioctl).  

I lost the email message from the person who sent me this, and no names
can be found.  

Anybody know anything?  I'm willing to send the source and the sample
data files to anyone interested in trying to get it to work.

Sample Compile 
-------------------------------------------------------------
   $ /bin/cc -o play play.c -lm
   
    (0216)        ioctl(r8042, EFTSBP, &voice);
   
   ******** Line 216 of "play.c": [Error #023]  "EFTSBP" has not been declared.
-------------------------------------------------------------


The following is from the README file:
-------------------------------------------------------------
   To play something, type:
   
   play < playfile  (e.g. play < chop.fant)
   
   
   The "playfile" has the basic format of (starting from the first line):
   
   <key sig>
   <quarter notes per minute>
   <line of music for voice 1>
   <line of music for voice 2 or blank line>
   <line of music for voice 3 or blank line>
   .
   .
   .
   
   The key signature is in the form "n#" or "nb" where n goes from 0 to 7.
   # of course means "sharp", b means "flat".
   
   Quarter note beats per minute is just that; it's in the form  n, where 
   n is almost any reasonable number.  Note that 10 milliseconds is the
   smallest duration available.
   
   Music lines come in groups of three (3 voices).  A blank line indicates
   termination of that group, the other voices are not played.  If all
   3 voices are played in a group, DO NOT leave a blank line (bug).
   
   A music line is of the form:  | measure | measure | measure | ...
   (blanks must be present around the |).
   
   A measure is just: note note note ...  (blanks must surround notes)
...
-------------------------------------------------------------


Robert

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Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: Re: Netfax
Date: 4 Apr 92 15:36:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: cic
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bep@quintro.uucp (Bryan Province) writes:

>I am looking for an anonymous FTP site for the "netfax" software.  This software
>will allow you to send and receive FAXes in a networked environment.  I'm
>looking for a version to install on our HP/Apollo Domain/OS network.  The
>following is a description of netfax by Steve Hole back in December.

Here is the HOTO file from netfax:


$Header: /usr/people/sam/tiff/RCS/HOWTO,v 1.4 91/07/07 09:53:35 sam Exp $

How To Obtain This Software (in case all you get is this file)

The software is available for public ftp on
    sgi.com			graphics/tiff/v2.4.tar.Z
	(192.48.153.1)
    ucbvax.berkeley.edu		pub/tiff/v2.4.tar.Z
	(128.132.130.12)
    uunet.uu.net		graphics/v2.4.tar.Z
	(192.48.96.2)

For example,
    ftp -n sgi.com
    ....
    user anonymous
    ... <type in password>
    cd graphics/tiff
    binary
    get v2.4.tar.Z

The software comes in a compressed tar file.  To extract the
information:
    uncompress v2.4.tar.Z	(creates new file v2.4.tar)
    tar xf v2.4.tar		(extract individual files in current directory)

There is also a companion compressed tar file, v2.4pics.tar.Z
that has sample TIFF image files.  These are mostly useful in
testing the software if/when you port it to an unsupported system.
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From: micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!wupost!spool.mu.edu!cserver!edsi!chuck@bloom-beacon.mit.edu (Chuck Tomasi)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: Is your AA A-OK?
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:15:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Return-Path: <apollo-list-errors@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>

We we have been using SR 10.3 for over a year (with appropriate patches
added as they became available) to find out at 10.3.5.3 that our
authorized area may have been doling out bad copies of the OS.  Bad
news.  I went to apply patch pd91_m0351 a couple weeks ago and found out
that my //AA/install/tools directory was using some old tools.  When I
grabbed the tools off of the boot tape for PSKQ3_91 the problem went
away.

There is another problem rearing its head with our Mentor Graphics tools
(watch out for programs crashing with the error code 0012002F) because
it may signify your AA is awry also.

As we speak I'm realoading the AA from cartridge tape.  This weekend
I'll be reloading the nodes.  This is not going to be fun!  It is sort
of like building a huge mansion only to find out that your basement has
cracks in it that can only be repaired with a new foundation.
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------<Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton Wisconsin>------
From: cis.ohio-state.edu!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!hplextra!hpfcso!steve-t@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Taylor)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: Re: apollo + DAT
Date: 24 Mar 92 01:42:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In comp.sys.apollo, dick@netcom.com (Richard Arnold) writes:
> My company recently bought an Apollo Series 700 with no DAT drive or
> CDROM. I now have the task of adding those peripherals (third party) to 

I don't know the answers to your questions, but I have seen discussions
on this topic in comp.sys.hp.  You might want to try your questions there.

						Regards, Steve taylor

NOT A STATEMENT, OFFICIAL OR OTHERWISE, OF THE HEWLETT-PACKARD COMPANY.
From: ftpbox!mothost!schbbs!turner%ssdt-tempe.sps.mot.com@uunet.uu.net (Robert Turner)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.apollo
Subject: Sorry, broken music maker for DN425s, play.c
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:33:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Semiconductor Systems Design Technology, Motorola, Tempe AZ
Return-Path: <apollo-list-errors@srvr1.engin.umich.edu>

Sorry about the mutiple postings.  NNTP server returns an error and the
file to stored on dead.article.  Forgot to check to see if it really got
posted.

Robert



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