HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone)
Subject: Re: R100GS final drive trouble
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:37:15 GMT

In article <9901068@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:
(Re: water in BMW final drive units)
>It's good general advice but uh, it doesn't go for the root cause.
>
>I must be more suspicious than average but I doubt that this is 
>just "normal water accumulation"
>
>Ron Miller

It happened to me, too, last winter.  For the two months that I was
homeless (got burned out of my old apartment), and more importantly,
garageless, it poured mercilessly on me and my unprotected R80ST.

I remember many days of riding down the freeway through a few inches
of water, or at least enough to make a respectable bow wave.  Everything
got wet (except for me, I have a good rainsuit), including the toolkit
under the seat.

When I next changed the tranny oil, it was the color of cafe-au-lait.
Shaft and final drive oil were water contaminated as well.  My mechanic
said it was to be expected, considering the conditions I was riding in.

Riding in very wet weather calls for much stricter maintenance.  Watch
this particular area on BMW's.

ObPre-emptive:

Anyone that wishes to take a cheap shot at BMW's at this point must meet
the following qualification:  you must have actually ridden in the rain
(*real* rain, not some wimpy drizzle with spaces between the drops) for
an extended time.  Otherwise, you are a chickenshit brand-basher, and may
safely assume my unending scorn for your worthless, posing existence.


 Phil Stone         (phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov | ...ames!eos!phil)
 '83 R80ST               DoD #95              "Motorcycles OK"
From: danny@tummel.turing.ac.uk (Danny Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR900RR question
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:25:09 GMT
Organization: The Turing Institute, Glasgow, Scotland.


|> 
|>   Let me know what you paid for yours. I paid $7,500 base price for mine here
|> in Dallas. How does that compare.
|> 


Life is grossly unfair!!  The UK price for fireblades (all dealers around Glasgow)
is around 7,300 **POUNDS**  Thats about $11,000-12,000 dollars at current rates!

-- 

Danny Pearce,               '91 GSX 600F
The Turing Institute,       DoD #0401
Glasgow, UK.
danny@turing.ac.uk
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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Big Yam?
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 15:05:19 GMT

David Svoboda (svoboda@rtsg.mot.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov4.155541.1672@elektro.cmhnet.org> root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
: |
: |My appologies to the net for posting this, as I don't seem to be able
: |to get email through to Nick.  I've tried spuddy.uucp and it seems to
: |disappear off into the great Atlantic void.
: 
: Yeah, me too.  What a weenie mailer! C'mon Nickie, old chap, get with 
: the program!
: 
: Does Nick M. Lud have a DoD number?  Not on my copy of The List he
: doesn't.  How 'bout it, did ANYONE on this side of the puddle ever get 
: mail to him?
: 
: Oh, and Charlie?  NEVER APOLOGISE!
: 
: Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
: 90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
: 84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
: AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman

Oh ignorant one you art.  Did you check The List?  I have both a number (1069)
and an address: biker@spuddy.uucp or !uknet!axion!spuddy!!biker or
                biker%spuddy.uucp@uknet.ac.uk which I maintain at my own
expense as my Company does not give me Email access.  Several DoDers have 
contacted me with very little difficulty.  What's the problem, Computerphobia?
Mind you, judging from your last two harangues (which were identical by the way
RTFM!) I am not sure if I want you taking up space in my mail box.....


Nick (the Mortally Offended Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Book Of Cats


M'Lud.
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From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: taking trip - where to go?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:30:19 GMT

   As the subject line says, I'm taking a trip. Going from Dallas, Tx to
Reading, PA by way of I-40 and I-81. I've decided to take a car, weather
being unpredictable this time of year, and will take a bike (probably
the Triumph, but maybe the Norton or Moto Morini) for recreational riding
along the way and transportation while I'm there. 
   Weather permitting, I'll spend a day on the Blue Ridge, but I'm wondering
about other great rides I may not know of. Also good European bike shops,
biker bars, titty bars, etc that are worth visiting along the way. I'd 
appreciate any recommendations.

Jeff Achenbach
achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karl@hsr.no (Karl Martin Lund)
Subject: Re: what is Too Much Power?
Keywords: this is not bait
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:15:34 GMT

There is no such thing as too much power.

A motorcycle is never dangerous. If something is dangerous, it's the person
who rides the machine.

      __ -----------------------------------------------------------------
     /// | Karl Martin Lund |   No DoD#    | Find no hope in nothing new |
__  ///  |                  |              |  when I never had a dream   |
\\\///   |   karl@hsr.no    | Honda VF750F |      come through (ST)      |
 \///    -----------------------------------------------------------------

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From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: IS IT POSSIBLE??
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:23:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov10.181433.23307@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mikeh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (michael p.herlihy) writes:
>>In article 8962@porthos.cc.bellcore.com, fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:
>>
>>>I just dragged an 8x8x12' railroad tie across the road one
>>>evening as I heard that z-28 going from 1-2nd, didnt see
>>>him for a couple of weeks after that and then the stop signs
>>>were finally put up. 

If the guy that hit that railway tie is reading your posting,
I'd like to encourage him to look you up and beat the living
shit out of you. You deserve it.

>Years ago when I was a young lad, we had a similar jerk racing
>down a narrow residential street with his Z28.  
>
>One of my neighbors was in the construction business.  This man
>brought home one of his dump trucks one day (and left it in his
>driveway).  El Jerko comes racing up the street at +60 MPH and
>Mr. Leonetti backs up the dump truck into the street...
>
>Needless to say this ended his drag racing days..

Should have ended Mr Leonetti's days of freedom as well.
I'd want to see him in jail...That kind of behaviour
is not self-defence, it's vigilanteeism.

I am disgusted by both of these stories, and no longer
suprized that drive-by shooting has become so
commonplace. 

Slight Regard,

Charles

DoD 0.001
RZ350
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
From: desilets@sj.ate.slb.com (Mark Desilets)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Not A Problem?
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:35:36 GMT
Reply-To: desilets@sj.ate.slb.com (Mark Desilets)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Schlumberger ATE, San Jose

In article <92Nov05.184404.10270@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>In article <4227@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@atc1.UUCP (Tod J Johnson) writes:
>>In article <BD.92Nov2120836@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>>a grip on the value of a human life. 
>>
>>Very Sincere;
>>
>>Tod J. Johnson
>
>Tod....Fuck off. Please.
>
>Oh, and whilst you are about it, look and see how many lives you
>could save by banning motorcycles. Shit, what's more important,
>"human life" or being allowed to ride a machine which can
>be conclusively demonstrated as unsafe.
>

	Yeah, and whilst you are about it, look how many lives you 
	could save by banning swords.  Hell, a sword is more effective
	than a gun at less than about ten feet.  Shit, what is more
	important, "human life" or protecting your friends?....

	. . . oh... this is rec.motorcycles????  


									....  never mind
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cameron@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Cameron Simpson)
Subject: Re: Solution to toll booth troubles
Keywords: Q-free system
Reply-To: cameron@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Cameron Simpson)
Organization: CS&E Computing Facility, Uni Of NSW, Oz
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 08:27:33 GMT

Espen Olsen writes:
| Here in Norway we have a really nice system called *Q-free*.  It consists of 
| a UHF transmitter/reciever located above the road and a passive card (SAW) 
| about 3x10x1cm big, at the vehicle.  This system is installed in Singapore 
| and Portugal as well as several places in Norway.

Chuck Karish writes:
| Most of these systems make it possible for the toll collection
| records to save a record of your comings and goings.  Is your
| privacy worth the convenience?

Well, yes and no. 99% of the time I don't give a damn who know where I'm
going or where I've been. The other 1% of the time I can live with mucking
with coins and gloves and stuff. Just block or don't carry the card.

| There are some variants that preserve privacy.  [...]

Obviously this is better though. How are such things done, given a desire
to successfully contest billings?
	- Cameron Simpson
	  cameron@cs.unsw.oz.au
--
"The engine purrs beneath me with a purpose,
 ready for the pleasure of my hand upon the throttle." - Peter Smith
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Solution to toll booth troubles
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:51:12 GMT
 <daved.721342825@convex.convex.com><1992Nov10.033931.15724@research.nj.nec.com><1992Nov10.135615.9208@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> <92315.151222RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET (Robert Chambers) writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.135615.9208@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>,
>fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) says:
>>
>>what the Turnpike pays. Connecticut removed all its toll
>>booths from 95 a few years ago, something about not being
>>legal to toll road a road built with federal funds or
>>something
>
>That and the fact that a whole family was wiped out at a toll booth
>by some over tired (read: asleep) trucker plowing into them and wedging
>the car in somehow such that the occupants couldn't get out and were
>burned to death.  (least thats what I heard on the tv the other week).

Amazing how many theories there are about the demise of the
Connecticut toll booths.

At the time of their demolition I was a Connecticut resident, and the
story going around at the time was that the tolls had paid for the roads
that they were supposed to pay for, so the courts ordered them removed 
since the reason for their existence was gone.

-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: derrick@sdc.com (Derrick Davis)
Subject: Re: CBR900RR question
Keywords: cbr900 tires
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:11:14 GMT

In article <1de5tqINNr1t@gap.caltech.edu> gunning@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin J. Gunning) writes:
>Just got back from the dealer buying new tires.  The Bridgestone rear on the
>900 is NOT the same as either the race or street aftermarket Bridgestone.  
>The Honda tire has a slightly different sidewall and one less Kevlar belt.
>The weight is 12.1 lbs vs 13 for the aftermarket tire.  The Honda rear uses 
>the race  compound (as opposed to the dual compound street tire).  So there are
>actually  THREE battlax 180/55 - 17 available.
>
>As for the front, I don't know.  Any ideas?
>
>PS:  How the hell does anyone get their tires to last more than 2500 miles?
>Ive gone through two sets, and this is all within 5000 miles (and NO track
>time).  Lotsa canyon cruising though  :-).
>
>kjg
>

I own a '91 Goof2 and got 10,800 miles out of my stock Michelins(spelling)!!
Don't even need a front!

I like to think I ride rough,  not matter what anyone tells me I'm
going with the stock tires.

I did see the Bridgestones and liked the deep tread it looked
like a very impressive tire.
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:06:45 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 92Nov12130832@fluent.UUCP, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
>
>I wish I had the money to plan a trip to Colorado just so's I
>could cancel it.

Brice is onto something, here.

Let's roll the Joust, the R&F, the GNWDG, the RCR, and the AMA
homecoming into one big huge expensive outing in CO!

Everybody call and make reservations, then we'll cancel the whole
affair, and send letters to all the business that thought they were
going to make money, and to all the politicians, and tell them exactly
and precisely WHY they are losing millions from motorcyclists in the
first year alone.

It worked for AZ, they now have a Dr. King day...

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: berck@cs.rulimburg.nl (Peter Berck)
Subject: Re: high mileage
Organization: University of Limburg, Maastricht
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:01:01 GMT

>I've got 25K on my Magna(V-4 engine) and haven't had a lick of
>trouble to date . . knock on wood.  I'm in a position now where I
>can put 1000+ miles on it a month . . . and it seems to shrug the miles
>off with no problems . . . of course, keeping it maintained helps, too! ;-)

Bleah, I've 88000km on my cx500 and she's just broken in (is that the
correct expression, whatever), so there.

Crotchrocket is a much nicer word in Dutch, i.e. kruisraket. It also
means cruisemissile.

-Peter (Keeper of the Divina Commedia)

------------------------------------------------------------------
berck@cs.rulimburg.nl pberck@kub.nl
(format nil "~%~{~<~% ~1:; ~a~>~^,~}.~%"
        '(DoD#-337 cx-500 Sonic-Youth The-Icicle-Works Lush
          Dante-Alighieri))
From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD bananas
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:51:05 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

(Blaine Hufnagle) writes:
> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
> %         Arnie, you're slightly off the mark. We don't want DOD Bandanas,
> % we want DOD Bananas. Think about it.
>
> naw...  How you gonna imprint the DoD logo onto one?  You hit it, and it
> turns to mush...  you ever eat a mushy banana?

        All the time, with Kahlua (sp?) on top. And you grow them with the
DoD logo on them. Don't you know anything Blaine?

> %         Being tailgated by an arsehole cager? Pull out a DOD banana, peel
> % it, eat it (or drop it into the tank for mega octanes) and drop the peel
> % on the road. The cager will hit it and have a massive spin out, turning
> % his/her cage into a total write off, hopefully taking out 20 other cages
> % in the process.
>
> (besides... mushy banana clogs carb passages and fouls plugs....)

        They should dissolve in Avgas. You are using Avgas aren't you?

> %         If that doesn't appeel to you, you can dry the banana skin and
> % smoke it. Is this a great idea or what!
>
>
> Hey, now there's an idea... :)

        And guess what the best part of the deal is. We can get Arnie
to order a pile of sew on patches which say "Keep back cager, I've
got a banana!"


           Bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au  OR  bull@monu1.cc.monash.oz
                    DOD# 251  '84 VF 750   Closet Ducatisto
             Disclaimer. If you love your llama, let it lambada.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Results of make your own Electric vest
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:30:16 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	What were the results of making your own electric vest...Is it
	feasable??  what about making handle bar grip heaters???  A
	heated saddle?

					Ryan
					.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette)
Subject: Re: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:13:06 GMT

>In article <1992Nov7.071302.13943@panix.com> bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman) writes:
>>
>>How do you deal with your passenger's clothing choices?
>>

In addition to regular clothing (i.e. jeans, shirt, and whatever else),
my wife wears an Aerostitch, Shoei, leather gloves, "cowboy" boots (she hasn't
gotten anything else yet).  She really doesn't like to but I won't take her
riding any other way.

I haven't had many other passengers other than her.  I would never take anyone
on the bike without at least jeans and a good jacket.  (helmet and gloves are
obvious to me.)  I really would want him/her to have over the ankle shoes also.

Jim Bessette
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: New NHTSA video: Fake Helmets: Unsafe on any Head
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 19:40:18 GMT

In article <LOTTO.92Nov3083250@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>....  Most people are
>already aware that they offer little or no protection, but use them to
>circumvent the requirements of "helmet-law states".  If this video is

Question to anyone who wears a fake helmet. If you have to suffer with a
helmet anyway, why not get a good one? Why do people put a helmet on and
not tie the chin strap? Why would someone try to use a lawnmower as a
hedge trimmer?

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: British rides
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:36:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1drdatINNfh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 1dqr6sINNqmn@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM, rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier) writes:
>>In article 7433@aber.ac.uk, azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:
>>>
>>> Car drivers assume all bikers are 16 year old greasy psychopaths,
>>> and that it is their social duty to kill them before they reach breeding age.
>>
>>Too late! the legal breeding age is below the legal biking age.
>
>Maybe in the UK.
>
>In most states in the US, statutory rape laws forbid consentual sex
>with any minor female (ie, under 18), and one can obtain a motorcycle
>license at ~16.

I thought the age-O-consent was 16 down there? Oh well, not an
issue for me...I prefer my women old enough to make interesting
conversation.

What are the legal biking ages? Up here you can ride a bike, as a
learner (which means another guy, licensed, on another bike with
you) from 14yrs on up. You can't get a fullfledged license until
16 though.

Charles
DoD 0.001
rz350
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline Blvd. (10/4/92, 1: 30p)
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 01:45:33 GMT


>How many times do I have to write this?  Pay attention!  The bicyclist
>was riding along next to the curb.  There was plenty of space for even
>a car to pass.  The bicyclist made a sudden left turn.  There was
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    I bet this guy does the same thing in a cage, left (right in UK) turns
in front of motorcycles. I would chalk up one for karma. 

Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


*************************************************************
   "Never trust anyone in a cage, if they weren't nuts
    they'd be on a scoot like anybody else."
                        Grandmother, 1943
=============================================================



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: howland@noc.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Subject: Re: IS IT POSSIBLE??
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:39:44 GMT

In article <BxH6Mx.CxE@news.iastate.edu>, you write:
... The fact that he is drunk
|> and the epitome of why the rest of the world thinks America is lazy, illiterate
|> and stupid doesn't even enter my mind as I consider homicide.


My good man, if this is consistent, why does this person
still have a license? Talk a walk into the friendly 
police station and have a chat with some nazi in a uniform.
Perhapps one of the kind oscifers will enjoy being around
when he comes home one night, just to see the sights....

I agree, though. People feel protected inside steel, so
they turn their brains off. I had a little lady do to me
the same thing the mezzo-yuppy did to you, save I didn't
get hurt at all, and I was going 40, and it was a sunny
day and there was no one else on the road, and she couldn't
even drive afterwards for how bad she was shaking. Again,
"I didn't see you..." Sure, like my back tire took your
license plate right off your bumper...in the MIDDLE of
your FRONT bumper.....

How come stupidity doesn't HURT?

Bring back evolution! make everybody ride bikes!

I won't bother telling you about the van that backed over
me at a stop light.....


---
Curt Howland "Ace"       DoD#0663       EFF#538
howland@nsipo.nasa.gov            '82 V45 Sabre
  Don't bother arguing with drunks or zealots
they're not listening to anyone but themselves.
From: lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: FIXED: (was SOLVED: Strange brake problem)
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:17:32 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Communications Inc. Montreal, Canada
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.




Many people replyed to my bent front disk problem, thanks.

They suggested:

Replace
Regrind
Knock into shape



Well as it was the disk on the front I decided to replace it for
safety reasons, but at $283 +15%tax I decided to knock it into 
shape and if I failed I could always buy a new one.

Lucky for me (or unlucky depending if different designs are 
stronger and wouldn't have bent) the disk on the ZX1100 is mounted 
to a metal 'web' which then mounts to the wheel. This metal web mount
made it easyer to bend back into shape. I removed the front wheel
and mounted it on a chair which made it easyer to spin and detect
the warpage. I used a block of wood and a hammer to knock the
high and low points in. As the pads float, the distance of the
disk from the wheel was not that important. I managed to get
rid of the warpage completely. (anybody trying this at home: it
is very easy[too easy] to bend the disk so light taps are sufficient)



A few slow speed stops and its as good as new.






--
Stamos <lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se>            ZZR11            Ellas
Ericsson, Cellular Design
Montreal, Canada.