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From: greg@carnivore.tamu.edu (Greg Economides)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: X11 support for Trident SVGA card?
Keywords: X11 video card Trident
Date: 14 Sep 1992 20:50:16 GMT
Organization: Center for Biosystems Modelling, Texas A&M University


Is anyone working on adding video drivers to X11 for linux?  I have a Trident
SVGA card which uses the Trident chip set and, to my knowledge, this is
not currently supported in X for linux.  I would like to get X up and 
running on my machine.  So, if someone else is doing this sort of development,
I'd like to know.  If not, I suppose I could try to expand my programming
horizons and try to write the thing myself.

Comments?  Hints?  Help?

Peace,
--
Greg Economides,   Systems Administrator, Center for Biosystems Modelling
Texas A&M University
Internet: econ@tamu.edu
Fuzzy logic -- "Everything is not always something"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: genie@netcom.com (The Genie)
Subject: Linux 0.97p2 compatibility
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 05:40:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


Hi.  I posted a message earlier stating how I've been having compatibility
problems compiling (and running already compiled) programs with
Linux 0.97p2 available from MCC Interim release at Tsx-11.

It seems the problem was that the GCC 2.2.2d that comes as images
Comp1 and comp2 are not compatible with the older versions of
GCC 2.2.2 --> everything that was compiled before using
the shared libraries must be recompiled.  If I'm right so
far, then all the binaries of programs at ftp sites are
useless until a newer version is recompiled?

I am guessing that this would be a real pain.  Is it
possible to avoid this problem and make the
2 versions more compatible?  Would just getting
the library files from GCC 2.2.2 and writing them
over the 2.2.2d version solve the problem?
Most of the problem lies with binaries checking
for "/lib/libc2.2.2" instead of the "libc.so.2.2"
which is what is installed in my machine.

Thanks for all the help.

Gene
From: baron@clifton.hobby.nl (Wim `Blue Baron' van Dorst)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: HELP, can't login as user....
Organization: Minix Hobbynet Host
Date: Sat,  5 Sep 1992 18:17:40 MDT

jgifford@attmail.com () writes:
> Well, I've tried everything, and I am at the end of my rope.
> 
> I CAN login as root, but not as anything else.  not even sync
> login will work.
> 
> I took my computer to work to give some of my friends a taste of power, 
> but I didn't want to leave the system as open as it was, so I changed
> all the permissions to u+rw go-rwx  I then restored the rights on the 
> /bin, /etc, /dev, /lib, /usr, and /tmp directories.  as near as I can
> tell, everything is as it should be, but I can only login as root.
> (YES, /lib/{shared lib's} ARE ugo+rx-w).
> 
Several things may have gone wrong. Most probable is that you happen to have
removed the setuid of /bin/login. Reset it with
	# chmod +s /bin/login

> The error message I get is:
> raskol login: sync
> login:  no shell:  No such file or directory

This seem to indicate that the shell chosen for this userid is not
there. Check to see which shell is in /etc/passwd for this userid,
and see that it is there. Note that the default shell is /bin/sh;
check the presence of that too.

Met vriendelijke groeten, Wim `Blue Baron' van Dorst
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From: mopar@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mopar Mike)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: pboot
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:27:31 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Forgive my ignorance but what does pboot want for a hex number if I 
want to make the boot disk look for /dev/sdb  Entering 0302 and then
booting that disk give me the error "bread failure" and "cant mount
root filesystem" or something like that.  Any help would be appreciated.

						-mike
From: steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Question about rz/sz
Summary: What's wrong with cu?
Date: 5 Sep 92 20:01:41 GMT
Organization: Chiral Symmetry Breaking, Inc.

I remember seeing someone posting about having ported zmodem to linux, so
I thought I'd post my question here.  I mailed this to omen!caf but he's
ignoring it.

I grabbed the source to rz from whatever comp.sources group it was in and
it compiled and ran to my surprise with no changes.  But all through the
docs and man pages is this big warning "rz is not to be run from 'cu' or
other terminal programs -- use our professional-yam comm software".

WHY NOT?

I only have kermit, but I've successfully downloaded big binary files by
starting sz on the remote system, escaping kermit back to local, and running
"rz </dev/modem >/dev/modem" on another virtual console.  

It was not always entirely successful, however, so I'm curious to know if there
is a short answer to this.  (On occasion it will stop in the middle with a 
message about reading the BUGS section of the manual)

Steve

-- 
Steve Robbins  --  steve@nyongwa.cam.org
This quote has no
From: jonathan@nova.next.nd.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Stupid Question - Sockets
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:19:58 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

What is the current status of sockets under Linux? Specifically binding to 
a socket. This is probably somewhere but I didn't see it. I have a program
that wants to bind itself to a socket (although I only want to be able to
use it locally) is this even possible at this stage?

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  - "Busy life, not enough time to look in the mirror." - Deborah Ann Gibson -
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: what does mouse test do??
Date: 7 Sep 1992 00:41:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu




what is the mouse test in xbase supposed to do?????

Evidently....my mouse doesn't work cuz nothing seems to happen
out of the ordinary. There is still a black screen with letters on it :)

BTW, it's a Logitech and I have 0.97.1.
README.base said you need 0.96c with patches 1 2 3 for the Logitech to work
but I imagine that 0.97 has all those in them, right?

Any ideas to why it's not working????

thanx in advance

-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis      "There is no middle ground/Or that's how it seems/For 
Thieves Like Us        us to walk or to take/Instead we tumble down/Either
mal11@po.cwru.edu      side left or right/To love or to hate."
					-A Strange Kind of Love
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: How to boot a SCSI drive (w/ a WD7000 FASST)
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 11:45:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.043836.11320@udel.edu> golden@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Edward Golden) writes:

>   First, how do I make 0.97 boot completely from the hard disk?  I'd like to
>be able to boot without any floppies involved.  Linux is on the second
>partition of my drive (MS-Dos owning the first, primary partition).  I have
>done "mkfs" and partitioned it properly (I think, see below).  Barring that,
>I can't even make the boot floppy mount the drive as "/".  (I "pboot" and
>used "0302")  The partition for linux is "/dev/sda2"... not "/dev/hda#".

Try 0802 - major 3 is the "normal" disk, 8 is the SCSI disk.

Install the master boot record of your choice, and either 
LILO or Shoelace.


>
>   The other concern is about the WD-7000 partitioning.  The WD card comes
>with some utilities (SSTSETUP, SSTBIO.SYS, etc) that are supposed to be used
>for partitioning.  Linux doesn't seem to be compatible with the partitions
>created by these utilities.  I had to use MSDOS 5.0 fdisk and "pfdisk" to
>make the partitons.  This makes the drive incompatable with the dos drivers.
>Is there some way around this problem?  Or can I leave it alone, trusting that

Maybe.  Normally, you shouldn't *need* the drivers, since the card does 
have a BIOS.

>the system is stable partitioned this way?  (Do I HAVE to use the SST
>utilities?)

Probably not.

-- 
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IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but 
marketing's sins don't come close to those of legal departments.
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Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 10:40:06 -0400 
From: "Brian E. Gallew" <geek+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: startup.net

Could someone send me a copy of their startup.net (set up for SLIP)?
I can run SLIP under DOS, but I can't seem to get things quite right
for ka9q under linux.  Any help will be greatly appreciated!

                                  -Brian

You drop the bomb -more-
It goes off... -more-
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From: kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Karl Fogel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Mounting /usr on hda3 - help? Used to work, now doesn't...
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:33:04 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


	This is with v0.96c, on a 386/40 with a 240 meg hard drive.
The first 108 or so meg partition (/dev/hda1) is all DOS. Then hda2 is
63 or so megs of linux root, and then hda3 is another 63 of /usr.  If
I do not use hda3 as /usr and jus le it lay idle, then everything
works fine and there are no problems at all, except lack of space.
	If I *do* use hda3 as /usr, then the following problems
appear:
	- X does not work -- it hangs after a little mouse movement
and ctl-alt-backspace is the only way out. Mouse buttons do not work.
	- sync dumps core in the /dev directory, same size each time.
	- df tells me that / and /usr are mounted respectively on hda2
and hda3 ... but it also says they're the same size and are filled to
the same exact percentage. I think df is getting it's information
entirely from the root partition; even though it tells me that it's
reporting hda2 and hda3, it's really only showing /dev/hda2. Here is
one interesting thing: if I boot with no hda3 mounted (/usr is on hda2
like everything else), but change my /etc/fstab and /etc/mtab to what
they would be if I were mounting hda3 as /usr, afterwards df will report
that /usr is mounted on hda3. Is this normal?
	My /etc/fstab looks like this:

	/dev/hda2 / minix defaults
	/dev/hda3 /usr minix defaults

	My /etc/mtab looks like this:

	hda2 / minix defaults 2 62914336
	hda3 /usr minix defaults 0 0

	I have a sneaking suspicion that I should make partition 3 of
type extended, rather than Linux/minix, but that doesn't seem to work
either. The "0 0" in my mtab also bothers me, should they be more
informative numbers?  If I mount hda3 as /usr, everything works except
X Windows, and there's also that annoying core dump in /dev. But X is
mighty important :-) ! Does anybody have any idea how to do this right?
I did once upon a time have X working fine and hda3 mounted on /usr
and all was good and beautiful. The problems came after I tried to install
more memory and got some parity errors. Alhough I have since put my original
memory back in and reinstalled Linux more than twenty times (!!!), it's
never been the same. X will not work if /dev/hda3 is mounted *at all*,
anywhere, even if I'm not running X or anything else from hda3. :-(
Any ideas, folks? I have repartitioned my hard drive and reinstalled
linux so many times now that I can do it with my eyes closed, but to no
avail.

--
 

                               -Karl Fogel
			
			kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu
			fogel@antares.mcs.anl.gov


	     "I'm not lost... I know exactly where I'm not!"


	 (Any opinions exressed are completely my own, and not 
	            necessarily those of Karl Fogel.)
From: jregehr@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (John David Regehr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: quick video card question
Date: 15 Sep 1992 07:56:07 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I need to purchase a new video board, and I would like it to run X11.         
I would like to know if the cheap Trident card (8900C?) with 1 meg, or the
cheap Tseng (ET4000) also with 1 meg work with X Windows, and also if the
Tsens offers enough of a speed improvement to be worth the extra $40 or so.
Thanks.

---------------------------------------------------------------
John Regehr
jregehr@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Kansas State University
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From: s891961@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Peter David Cupit)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: No patchlevel 3.
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:19:47 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman) writes:

>In article <1992Sep7.215429.7866@umr.edu> dminer@mcs213e.cs.umr.edu (Dan Miner) writes:
>>wait a little (~100K? for that one).  Now, I got pl4 and ready for
>>an all night compile (it takes over 5 hrs on my machine.. :(  )
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Along the lines of my last questions, about the progress of Linux over
>the Summer, I've been seeing a lot of this (5 hours to recompile


  I am using the MCC 0.97pl2 release (which is amazing thanks all),
  and I only have 5mb of ram in a 386 25,  it took perhaps half an
  hour to compile the kernel.   Well less than one hour anyway. 

  Perhaps patch levels abovee two are a lot bigger?

  Btw I now have a terminal in the lounge so I can use linux in the
  add breaks! :) Cool.  

  Oh, does anyone out there have a tvi925 or tvi920 termcap that is
  know to be perfect?   I have a vi problem on the terminal which
  could not be linux (I don't think).

  Thanks,
  Peter.
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: HD-timeout problems
Date: 6 Sep 92 09:13:02 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Sep5.201920.3244@afterlife.ncsc.mil> swaliff@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Steve Aliff) writes:
>I'm experiencing enough "HD-Timeout/HD-controller reset" messages to
>have become frustrated (irritated?) with it. This occurs both with
>the MCC release (.97p2) and the SLS release (.96c I believe). The
>SLS kernel has the "static int reset = 0" code in it. (I built a new
>kernel just for kicks. And The problem occurred BEFORE and after I
>built the kernel.  ;-) ) The problem doesn't appear to happen when I
>crank the clock back from 33MHz to 10Mhz.  Needless to say, that's
>not an acceptable solution.

There are two things you can do to alleviate the problem. In order of
"preferability":

 - check that your IO bus runs at 8MHz or lower.  Having a 11MHz bus
   seems to be pretty standard setup, but it's unsafe, and running
   beyond specs.  Check out your extended setup (press DEL on bootup for
   AMI bios or whatever) - it's usually something like

	Bus speed: CLK/2, CLK/3, CLK/4, CLK/5.

   for a 33MHz machine, CLK/4 should give an acceptable 8.25MHz clock for
   the IO bus.  Your setup may also allow you to set ISA bus waitstates,
   and editing this field may help.  Read the motherboard manual if you
   have one. 

 - edit the HD_DELAY value in kernel/blk_drv/hd.c.  It is normally 0,
   but setting it to some other value may help some buggy
   controllers/drives.  Test out different values, starting off with
   1000, and try to find the lowest value you can get that works. 

And finally, you can also try changing the HD controller card: a cheap
multi-io card may have some weird problem that doesn't show up under
DOS.  If you can swap cards with someone just for testing purposes, and
that fixes the problem, getting a new controller card may be the
solution.  But as this may be impossible (or just too expensive, even
though IDE controllers should be cheap), try out the above first.

All the above fixes have helped - it may not in your case, but it's
worth checking out. 

		Linus
From: eric@tantalus.dell.com (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: NFS? Internet?
Date: 12 Sep 92 21:07:17 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory

In article <68066@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt5584e@prism.gatech.EDU (Edward Deering Boykin) writes:
>Hi I have been out of the net for a while and as a rsult am not up to date.
>Being a unix idiot I have a couple of questions...
>What is the NFS file system? Now that linux has tcp/ip( or will in
>.98 can I use my comp running this to connect to the INternet?

	You can use it to connect to the internet with telnet and ftp, and
I imagine that you would only need to port a daemon in order to add other
services. 

	NFS stands for Network FIle Service, or some such, and it basically
means that you can mount a disk that is on a remote system over the network,
such that it appears as if it is on your system (a little on the slow side, but
still local).

-Eric

--
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eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Hub200
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From: eric@tantalus.dell.com (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: cdrom-0.4.tar.Z uploaded to tsx.
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:14:36 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory


	I just uploaded cdrom-0.4.tar.Z to tsx-11.mit.edu.  The major
difference is that I updated the filesystem to work with 0.97pl4.

	I also added a mount option "norock" to disable the Rock Ridge
extensions. 

	I imagine that Ted will move it to the proper location sometime today.

-Eric
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kg@gnusys.GUN.de (Klaus Guhr)
Subject: ghostscript 2.5 diff for Linux 0.97.2
Organization: Klaus Guhr Private // Featuring LINUX Site
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:44:08 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

HI *,

i'm very interested in a diff for ghostscript 2.5 for Linux 0.97.2
using gcc 2.2.2d


Thanx ind advance...


Bye, Klaus

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E-Mail: kg@gnusys.GUN.de
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: Binary locations
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:54:57 GMT

In article <y#sn22#.genie@netcom.com> genie@netcom.com (The Genie) writes:
>I've been using Linux for about 2 weeks now, and have found
>a small nit-picky problem.  When I compile something
>or move a executable binary into a directory, Linux refuses
>to recognize the existence of the binary unless
>1) I source my .cshrc which includes paths
>2) The new binary must be located in the binary path.
>
>Is there a way for Linux to automatically recognize binaries
>and execute them in any directory besides those listed
>in the path + to recognize a new binary when placed in
>a directory (in essence, I have to source the .cshrc to
>tell Linux to check all the paths for all binaries).
>Isn't automatically recognizing binaries a normal feature
>of SunOS, Ultrix, and Dynix?  Or is there something I
>must set correctly for this feature to work?

Um, I think you've completely missed the point of the PATH variable
and how executables are found by your shell.

Executables will only be run by your shell if they are listed in one
of the directories on your PATH, or if you specify a complete (or
relative) pathname such as ./foo, or /usr/users/jwinstea/foo.

Arbitrarily locating executables is not a misfeature of any operating
system (or shell) that I've ever worked with or heard about in my
reasonably varied experience.

You don't need to source your .cshrc for your shell (*not* Linux) to
recognize the executables in the directories in your path - the shell
looks through the directories each time to find the program you
specify (small caveat: most modern shells keep some sort of cache of
previously-located executables).

The Linux kernel will run any executable that the shell (or other
programs) tells it to run.  It is the job of the shell to search the
PATH for the executables.
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                                    |   jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Kevin W. Hammond <hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com>
Subject: tcsh binary or sources needed
Reply-To: hammond@kwhpc.caseng.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:57:45 GMT

In my last post I noted that I am getting ready to re-mkfs my root device.
I'd like to put on the extended fs, but I believe I need a new tcsh that
know's about the minix, extfs and ms-dos file systems.  On tsx-11 I only
see tcsh.tar.Z in binaris/usr.bin.  Is there a binary for 0.97pl2 or
sources somewhere that I can compile?  Thanks!

-kwh-
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From: pmacdona@tadpole.bcsc.gov.bc.ca (Peter MacDonald)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: re: shared libs
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:13:16 GMT
Reply-To: pmacdona@tadpole.bcsc.gov.bc.ca
Organization: The Internet

I wouldn't call shared libs under Linux unacceptable,  and it is
just plain incorrect to say that code is loaded at a fixed address.
Rather it is the jump table entry point that is loaded at a 
fixed address.  The code can be moved to wherever you like.
However, there is one thing I wonder if we should not have done.

Currently, I believe that share lib jump tables are located just
before the shared lib code in the middle of user space.  Perhaps
ideally, the jump table should be located in high memory, just 
above the stack.  Then the code could reside wherever you like.
of course, the sticky part is that the data would have to go
with  the jump tables, cause it can't be moved.  And it's size
is subject to change.

Personally, though, I don't believe there is any good reason
to change the current design.  And I don't believe the mythical
perfect "shared libs" implementation exists.  Does using PIC
generate Position Independant Data (PID) as well, or is there 
a requirement for dynamic linking?  Dynamic linking carries 
overhead that will make much less efficient that the Linux 
scheme.

	- runtime overhead from the linking
	- larger images, because the symbol info is retained
	- shared text complications