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From: cvessey@UPEI.CA (Chris R. Vessey)
Subject: Re: ?DosFax Test Drive
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, CANADA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:01:22 GMT

In article <27797@castle.ed.ac.uk> eoph12@castle.ed.ac.uk (I F Gow) writes:

>Any one know:
>
>a) if there is a DosFax testdrive similar to the WinFax one,
>
>b) where is it ?????
>
>I've tried the WinFax Test drive which seems to work OK, but all the
>programs I use run under DOS.   Before I fork out the cash for the
>proper version, I'd like to be sure it would work on my system.  I've
>heard a lot of funny stories about how it handles proportional fonts
>under the HP emulation setup.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>regards,
>
>Iain

1)	Don't know.
2)	See 1.

Re:  Rumour Mill

You might have missed the thread before on this, so I'll summarize.

I won't take up too much bandwidth on this, but I have tested the *real* 
uncut version of DosFax Pro 2.0.  The interface is pretty good (TSR which 
captures output to an LPT port of your choosing), but the HPIIP emulation is 
not yet up to scratch.  It has trouble with the software-emulated MicroSoft 
1 (Z) cartridge, and is a bit flaky with graphics (I printed 4 "Graphics 
Lines", of varying densities; these were not properly aligned).  I did not 
have the opportunity to test its behaviour with downloaded fonts.  Normal 
resident fonts (Courier and Letter Gothic, if memory serves) were fine.

At this point I'd say buy it if you're willing to put up with the 
shortcomings, and are willing to wait for the *free* fix release (as per 
Delrina).  The interface is probably about the best you're going to get, and 
it's not in any way application specific.  Once they iron out the bugs in 
the emulation (and that's just a brute force programming task) it should 
work well.

					Chris

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: jbf@wts.com (Jens B. Fiederer)
Subject: Re: Difference between Everfax 24/96D and 24/96E
Organization: Wegmans Transaction Services
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:28:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.022532.26847@kum.kaist.ac.kr> symin@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr (Min Sanglyeol) writes:
>Could someone in the netland please clarifiy the difference between
>Everfax 24/96D and 24/96E ? It seems like that the Everfax 24/96E is
>not a class 2 fax modem whereas the Everfax 24/96D is a quasi class
>2 fax modem. Since I heard that the Everfax 24/96D works well with netfax,
>I tried to buy one. But the saleperson at Everfax told me that they no longer
>produce 24/96D model and 24/96E is the replacement. Is this true ? or better
>yet could somebody recommend a class 2 fax modem that is known to work well
>with netfax with some minor modifications ?
>Thanks in advance.
>--------------------
>Sang Lyul Min
>symin@dandelion.snu.ac.kr
>symin@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr

Is there a FAQ for this group?  I have been getting the group for over a month
without seeing a FAQ, and I would so like to see the answers to trivial
questions about faxes that I, a fax novice, would be embarassed to ask
myself (like what are the different classes of fax, etc.)

Jens Fiederer
code:hlomls
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: Telephone Fax Switch, CNG Signal, FaxModem Software
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:44:46 GMT

Dr. Klaus Wolferts (dkw@wolferts.ka.sub.org) wrote:
: But as the usage of fax machines combined with phones on one line grows, 
: as the usage of phone/fax switches, fax modems or fax/phone/answering 
: device combinations do, there IS a need for the calling machine to send 
: the CNG signal to identify itself as a fax machine to the called party. 
: 
: And here several modem fax software packages fail too:
: 
: I have tried BitFax Class 1 V3.09A, DosFax lite V2.00 and WinFax Lite 
: V2.0. They DON'T start a transmission with the CNG tone but wait for the 
: CED signal of the called station. 
: 
: Then, if the called station is combo machine with fax + phone (+ answering 
: device) or a (human or automatic) fax/phone switch, these sw packages 
: are unable to send a fax because the switch on the receiving side never 
: gets a signal showing them an incoming fax is pending. Without calling 
: the receiving party before and announcing the pending fax transmission, 
: you don't have a chance to send your faxes! 

Klaus, please use ATS17=1 for a 1100 Hz CNG tone and ATS17=2 for the
more common 1300 Hz CNG tone. I know its implemented in the 2930 DSP
ROM, but have not checked earlier ones.



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From: 868liew@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: HELP!! FaxModem Problem...
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:17:25 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

	I finaly get rid of my slow 2400bps FaxModem. UPS just shiped my
new Infotel 14400 bps send/receive Fax Modem today. The trouble starts!!
	I try to use back my old  "Winfax v2.0" (which came along with
the old Faxmodem) . But I only manage to send  Faxes and can't receive
any fax. It can autoanswer the incoming fax and I can heard the tone sounded
by the modem. But few seconds later, It automatically cut of the line and 
return the massage "No response from modem". 
        Can someone out there tell me what is going on?
       
        Is there a problem with my new modem?
        Is Winfax V2.0 doesn't compatible with my new modem(group 3) ?
       What do you all suggest me to do? ?(please don't tell me to use back my
                                          old modem.)

        Your help is much much appreciated !!
        Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: RE: Telephone Fax Switch, CNG Signal, FaxModem Software
From: aleung@uwpg02.uwinnipeg.ca
Date: 6 NOV 92 16:36:42 CST
Organization: University of Winnipeg

I think CNG tone is not control by software. It control by Hardware.
From: brian@grot.starconn.com (Brian Smithson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: need info on Inmac "Fax Line Manager" or equiv
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:03:00 GMT
Organization: Brian Smithson

I recently purchased an Inmac Fax Line Manager (without manuals) at at
local surplus store.  It routes everything just fine except for incoming
faxes which are not preceeded by CNG tones.

What I'd like to know is this: does the Fax Line Manager have any other
routing features, such as touchtone routing (e.g, "press 123* to route
the call to the fax line")?

If someone out there has this device, or an equivalent device -- I've seen the
same device sold with private labels other than Inmac's -- please contact me
by e-mail.  I'll summarize and post.

Thanks,
-- 
-Brian Smithson
 brian@grot.starconn.com
From: dlt@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (David Turock)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Unix software for the MultiTech 1432
Date: 8 Nov 92 00:37:11 GMT

Does anyone know if there is Unix (preferably Sun) software
(freeware or other) to drive the FAX capability of the MultiTech 1432?
Please respond by email; I'll write a summary and post.

Thanks in advance!

David Turock
dlt@cogito.psych.upenn.edu
From: fins@radgumbo.Corp.Sun.COM (Richard Schiavi)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Re: Difference between Everfax 24/96D and 2
Date: 9 Nov 1992 19:06:37 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fins@radgumbo.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: radgumbo.corp.sun.com

I've seen more differences.  The D version works fine with the netfax
software.  When I use the E version, the incoming
images are blurred in places and I feel it is do to some change in the 
DLE data stream exchanges, yet Everex says there were no changes, the
D was just a developers release and the E is what they ship.

I would be interested in hearing if anyone else has other REVD vs REVE
tales or experience with incorrect DLE handling that causes image
corruption.

Thanks,

     
 Rich Schiavi	   fins@Corp.Sun.COM 
 Sun Microsystems  415-336-1647    
 Mountain View,CA    


In article 16276@inesc.pt, vldias@inesc.pt (Victor Lopes Dias) writes:
> Hi,
> The difference between the Everex 24/96D and 24/96E is the following:
> 24/96D is no longer made. It used to be a quasi-Class2 modem, according
> to the 1990 specification (that failed the ballot).
> These days, Everex makes only one kind. The 24/96E. However, the E model
> they now make is different from the E model they used to make.
> In the old days it was not class 2, now, it is...
> In other words, Everex stopped making the non-class 2 modem, and changed
> the name of the class 2 modem from 24/96D to 24/96E.
> The only way you can tell the difference is by the long serial number.
> EV-???-00 is the old non-class2 24/96E
> EV-???-02 is the new class2  modem that works with most software around.
> Bye, Victor.
> 
> 



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 Mountain View,CA
From: Stefan_Helander@f217.n901.z92.badnet.bad.se (Stefan Helander)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: Fax software for Macintosh
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:47:10 +0000
Reply-To: Stefan_Helander@f217.n901.z92.badnet.bad.se (Stefan Helander)
Distribution: world
Organization: Accret TCL, Gustavsberg, Sweden 

I am looking for a fax software package for Macintosh, single user environment 
as well as network support. All suggestions are appreciated. 
 
Thanks. 
 
/Stefan   
  
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From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
Subject: fax back from DTMF system 
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 04:15:54 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1992Nov9.033252.2342@spdcc.com> eli@spdcc.com writes:

    brian@audiofax.com (Brian Troxell) writes:
   !Baloney. Licensed by whom? What the devil are you talking about?

   faxback is patented!

Um, you all owe me back-licenses-fees.  You see, I patented the
technology of returning a numeric error code in combination with a
readable error message.  So NNTP belongs to me, US Patent # 2754233.
Yup, SMTP and FTP belong to me also.  Now pay up!

Oh, and that idea you just had a few minutes agos?  About glitzing
the framataz?  Sorry, I beat you to it, it's patented.  You owe me
$50, "thinking of my patented idea fee".

[ The preceding bullshit (including patented faxback) has been
brought to you by the USPTO. Maybe Bill Clinton could sign an
executive order cancelling all this nonsense??  ]

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: utama@ee.tamu.edu (Peter Utama)
Subject: Netfax-3.2.1 and ZyXEL : +FHNG:40, what is wrong?
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:32:35 GMT

Hi all,

Thanks to Chris Arnold, I have succesfully (at some degree) sent my 
first fax page using Netfax-3.2.1 and ZyXEL 1496E.

The program sent the first page, but it received +FHNG:40 at the end of the
page, so it assumed an error had happened and concluded that the sending failed.
But the other side received the first page nicely.

I understand that some have encounter similar problem. Does anyone have any clue
of what the problem is?

I include my log file of what's going on:

	.
	.
	.
(send.c:55) dialing: 9,6966716
(write.c:41) sending ATDT9,6966716\r:
(response.c:130) parse_text_response: parsing: "+FCON"
(response.c:130) parse_text_response: parsing: "+FNSF:00 00 00 00 "
(response.c:130) parse_text_response: parsing: "+FCSI:                "
(response.c:130) parse_text_response: parsing: "+FDIS:1,3,0,2,0,0,0,4"
(response.c:269) Received OK message
(send.c:285) sending g3 file
(send.c:149) setting xmit params: 0 1 0 2
(write.c:41) sending AT+FDT=0,1,0,2\r:
(response.c:130) parse_text_response: parsing: "+FNSF:00 00 00 00 "
(response.c:130) parse_text_response: parsing: "+FCSI:                "
(response.c:130) parse_text_response: parsing: "+FDIS:1,3,0,2,0,0,0,4"
(response.c:130) parse_text_response: parsing: "+FDCS:1,3,0,2,0,0,0,4"
(response.c:258) received connect response
(send.c:332) Trying to send g3 codes
(write.c:41) sending :(g3 codes)
	.
	.
(response.c:269) Received OK message
(send.c:357) send of file has completed
(send.c:197) end of current page, another page will be sent
(write.c:41) sending AT+FET=0\r:
(response.c:130) parse_text_response: parsing: "+FHNG:40"
(response.c:269) Received OK message
(send.c:397) hangup code received while sending pages
(send.c:94) send of page 0 failed
(gen.c:159) hanging up the modem
(write.c:41) sending ATH\r:
(response.c:231) numeric response code: 3
(process.c:300) unable to send fax to 9,6966716

Any comments or suggestion would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,

-peter
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: Unix Fax Software
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:53:43 GMT

Bill Dorsey (dorsey@lila.com) wrote:
: In the meantime, I'm still looking for software, commercial or otherwise,
: that will support the class 1 protocol.  I guess no one has bothered
: adding Class 1 support to Netfax because it's too much work.  Maybe I
: should sell this Courier Faxmodem and get myself a nice Supra like
: everyone else!

Are you implying that the Supra will work with netfax?


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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: regebro@stacken.kth.se (Lennart Regebro)
Subject: Re: PostScript support for Fax modems?
Organization: Stacken Computer Club, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:12:52 GMT

In article <hoepfner-111192100506@hoepfner.gsfc.nasa.gov> hoepfner@heasfs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patrick Hoepfner) writes:
>
>I don't know if this has been covered already, but, are there any Fax modem
>(or Fax modem software) developers that are going to support the sending or
>receiving of PostScript Faxes?

I'm not really sure on what you mean. I suppse you're talking about one of
two things:

1. Conversion of postscript to fax format before sending. 
2. Sending the file as a postcript file, converting it if it is sent to
   a fax, but sent as a postscriptfile without conversion if the reciever
   supports it.

1. Is easy. I do it every day.
2. Is totally nonstandard. We will do it over X.25 in the future with our
   FAX.25 systems. Compaq does it with some of their printers, but as long as 
   there's no standard it will never be a big thing.

>With the better quality and time savings (especially with the PostScript 
>Level 2 compression) you might think that there would be a lot of call for 
>this.

What actually is needed is a fileformat standard for EDA. This is just a tine 
intermittent step and is not very interesting in the long run.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: regy105@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (James Haw)
Subject: Info on Acer's "Sleeping FAX"?
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:32:25 GMT

Could anyone provide me with info on the "sleeping fax" by Acer?

Thanks
James.
From: corson@infodyn.com (Tom Corson)
Subject: USR/Courier/Fax via SunPC or SoftPC?
Organization: Information Dynamics, Saratoga, CA, USA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:25:19 GMT

Hi out there!

Has anyone gotten their Courier/V.32bis/Fax modem to play on a Sun using
either SunPC or SoftPC?  I've tried USR's Blastfax and DosFax Pro using
both PC emulators, and, when transmitting a fax, the remote fax answers,
I get carrier detect, and a brief burst of received data.  At this point, 
the modem drops carrier and DTR and just sits there.

I've tried about every init string I can think of.

Any ideas would be most welcome?

Regards,
Tom Corson

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: wcsv2k@alfred.carleton.ca (Bill St. Arnaud)
Subject: Poducts that support new T.30, T.4, T.434?
Summary: Products that support new T.30, T.434 etc
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:30:13 GMT

Looking for any new products or services that will support new
approved T.30 and T.434 etc.

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telecommunications companies in Canada.  We have identified FAX and
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We will be announcing shortly shortly some major initiatives related
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: dorsey@lila.com (Bill Dorsey)
Subject: Unix Fax Software
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:24:00 GMT

A few weeks ago, I posted an article here asking if anyone knew of any
Unix Fax Software compatible with Class I fax modems (e.g. US Robotics).
I didn't get any answers, though I did receive a number of requests ask-
ing me to forward any information I did receive.

Since then, I have learned of only one fax package that runs on a part-
icular flavor of Unix and supports Class I fax modems.  Not surprisingly,
it is marketed by US Robotics, and is called BLAST Professional Unix.
Unfortunately, it only runs on SCO Unix, SCO Xenix, AT&T System V, and
Interactive Unix.  In other words, only on PCs.  Not even on Suns.  Well,
this doesn't do me any good, but maybe it'll be of some use to someone
else.

BTW, when I spoke with a US Robotics representative on the phone, I was
told that US Robotics does not support the Class 2 protocol because it
is not an official standard, and it has "lots of problems."  Anyone care
to comment on this?  She said they were planning support for an upcoming
Class 3 protocol, but had no idea when it would be available.  Now I'm
beginning to wonder why I bought a modem that retails for $995 and doesn't
do what I want when I could have bought a much cheaper one that does
support the Class 2 protocol!

In the meantime, I'm still looking for software, commercial or otherwise,
that will support the class 1 protocol.  I guess no one has bothered
adding Class 1 support to Netfax because it's too much work.  Maybe I
should sell this Courier Faxmodem and get myself a nice Supra like
everyone else!
-- 
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dorsey@lila.com   liberty.  You will hear them talk of 'liberty under law,'
RIPEM public      and they are content to see it so deep under the law that
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: sl@wimsey.bc.ca (Stuart Lynne)
Subject: Re: MultiTech Fax Modems could run Gnu NetFax if you call
Organization: BC News and Mail
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:36:57 GMT

In article <716@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US> friedl@mtndew.Tustin.CA.US (Stephen Friedl) writes:
>I write UNIX fax software for a living, so I have some expertise

Ditto....

>Obviously, a well-designed facsimile system will not have to be
>rewritten from scratch, but the modem driver certainly will be: I
>believe that that Real Class 2 standard is sufficiently different
>that simply modifying the current driver won't work.  I do

Correct. The semantics are changed a bit and the syntax a lot.

>believe, though, that this new driver will be much easier to

Harder. More options to support.

>write than the first one, because the experience of the first all

Well ok. If you have written one for class 2, class 2.0 will be easier
to do than if you are starting from scratch.

>Basically, the UNIX fax customers are not clammoring for support
>for cheap modems (though they would not object to them if they
>worked well), and Multi-Tech is working very well.  They are right
>to see if the marketplace demands Real Class 2 before they do it,
>and they are sure not getting pushed on this from us.  I hope we
>don't have to think about it for a long time.  What Hayes does
>will have a big impact on this (again, I hope I don't have to
>think about it).

The *absolute* number one question we get asked is what FAX modem
do we support that has PTT approval in [Europe, Australia, Japan, .....].

I would imagine that I'll probably end up doing Class 2.0 when I
get handed a Class 2.0 modem that has to be supported because it's
the only fax modem in the world that has approval from the Lower
Muldovia PTT and there is a huge sale pending ;-) 

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax
From: rdg@world.std.com (R. Goldstein)
Subject: TR29 and BITFAX?
Summary: What is TR29 and Why won't my Twincom Do It?
Keywords: BITFAX TR29
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:28:26 GMT

Greetings...

I have a copy of BITFAX which used to work with my CompuCom modem
as a TR29 fax modem.

Recently I purchased a v.32bis/v.42bis fax modem from Twincom which is
suppose to be compatible with EVERYTHING.  It comes with QL2, but I didnt
like it, so I tried to use BITFAX.  Well, it tells me that my modem
is not a TR29 modem.  Huh?  However, if I run the RECVFAX program, it 
seems to load ok and not blanch during the modem setup.

I ran the test program and it appears that the program may be sending
commands to the FAX portion of the modem which are not supported.  Does
anyone know of a way to correct this?

Thanks!   ... Rich G.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.fax