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From: k3eq@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Trent D'Arby)
Subject: Re: ACADIA CARIBANZA
Organization: University of New Brunswick
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:51:53 GMT

black@ac.dal.ca wrote:
: 		Dalhousie-Mount St.Vincent Carribean Society

Appreciate the info'.

Caribanza? Sounds very interesting.

Here at the UNB we have a student organization called "THE CARIBBEAN CIRCLE".
[I happen to be a past v. president - too many projects due this year :-(    ]

As part of our cultural and social activities we feature a Caribbean Music
Festival in the 1st term and the (22nd Annual) CARIBBEAN NITE in the 2nd term
where we treat everyone with the sights, sounds, and delightful tastes of
the Caribbean culture and experience (guess 'tis a tradition on most compuses).

We always welcome the opportunity to meet our fellow Caribbean students at
other universities (who knows, there may be someone you know from your island).

If you know of other Caribbean students with internet access,
you could encourage them to read "soc-culture.caribbean"
          ==============================================

Lat'r.

Tebo - Kittitian Ambassador to UNB (the ONLY one here at UNB).

[P.S: Do you know of any Kittitian students at your university,        
	   ... any with e-mail ids, or other access ??
Thanks]

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: jasammer@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ASHLEY SAMMERSON)
Subject: Caribbean Organizations...
Followup-To: Caribbean Organizations....
Originator: jasammer@c00365-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jasammer@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ASHLEY SAMMERSON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:26:04 GMT



	These are the organizations I've accumulate thus far...but
in the words of the immortal poet - Crazy:
Gimme more, Gimme more
  Ah want it, ah like it....

 
1) SOCA (Students Of the CAribbean)
   Duke University, Durham, NC
   Josienne Wolf (President)

2) Florida Caribbean Students Association
   P.O. Box 67015
   Tallahasee, Fl 32312
   (904) 575-2248
   (The members consist of CSA throughout the state of Florida.)
      Dwight Powell - Chairman


3) Caribbean Student Association
   Florida State University
   P.O. Box 67015
   Tallahassee, Fl 32312
   (904) 222-2233
      Bryan Alli - President
      Roy Seivwright (Royboy) - Parlimentarian
          (904) 656-8573
          seivwright@evax12.eng.fsu.edu

4) Caribbean Student Association
   Texas A&M University
   Nicholette Johnson - President
      (409) 696-7398
   Pierre Catala - Faculty Advisor
      (409) 845-5966 (O)
      (409) 696-6283 (H)
      PJC3151%TAMVENUS.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu

5) African-Caribbean Society
   London School of Economics
   Ayanna Barrow
      barrowa@uk.ac.lse

6) Ontario Society for Studies in Indo-Caribbean Culture
   address of current President (there is no permanent office):
   Sarojini Lang, President,
   OSSICC,
   30 Charles St. W., Apt. 1408,
   Toronto, Ontario,
   Canada,
   M4Y 1R5

7) Caribbean Cultural Awareness Club
   Adelphi University
   Garden City, N.Y. 11530
   Richard L. Dennison - President
      richard@auvax1.adelphi.edu
      (516)352-1926 
      (516)877-3296 (Fax)


    Ah Gone!

John S.
100% Trini
Then she grab hold of de iron
  It feel nice Mr. Holman
Would you mind if play this parade...
                Iron Man - Kitch '90
  
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: richard@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Subject: Re:  The Name Of that Song (& Who Did It)
Organization: Adelphi University, Garden City NY
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:50:47 GMT

The name of that song, if I am not mistaken, is Children Playing In The Street,
and it is on an early album by The Melody Makers (who are Bob Marley's
children; Steve, Ziggy, Cidella and Sharon).  Fear not, as this should be an
easy album to get.
 
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President, Caribbean Club        |  \/  | Fone:(516)352-1926 Fax:(516)877-3296
Chairman, Afrikan Concerns Assn  |  /\  | Caribbean Cultural Awareness Club
Editor In Chief, AFRIKA UNBOUND!  -/--\-  Adelphi U., Garden City, N.Y. 11530
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: lashlepi@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Phillip Lashley)
Subject: Re: Help on Outsourcing
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:01:59 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

Dear oc.culture.caribbean readers,
I do realise this is not the most appropriate forum for this request, but im interested in obtainin "carribean" feedback, so please bear with me.

My area of interest is MIS, with a particular focus on outsourcing as a  
valid method of providing an organisation with its Information Services.
I have noted that a lot of the material in this area is based on the practical
experience of IT executives.  I would sincerly appreciate any assistance you or your organisations might be able to offer in terms of identifying research work
in this relatively new area.
If any individuals are intrested in this area, please E-mail me, fax or phone
Looking foward to hearing from you.
Once again, I do apologise for any inconvenience caused to net users.

Regards
Phil Lashley
   
Technical University of Nova Scotia
Tel:(902)-4207892
Fax:(902)-4207858
E-mail:lashlepi@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: k3eq@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Trent D'Arby)
Subject: Re: Jumbies, Duppies, and Spirits
Organization: University of New Brunswick
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:28:50 GMT

Bediako Ntodi George (karib@next08csc.wam.umd.edu) wrote:
: spirits of the Caribbean.  Let's see how many of these you recognize. Do  
: you know which countries their from and what they are? :-
: 
: Duppy (real easy)	Googaralli
: Rolling Calf		Hydaralli
: Steel Donkey		
: Bacooman
: Moose
: Loogaroo
: Soucouyant
: Ole Higue
: Female (pretty hard)
: Cribeau
: Dutchman
: Moongazer
: Massacourou man
: Bush Dai-Dai
: 
: These are just a few of the top of my head. I would really like to hear  
: some more.  Anyone out there know of any others?

blac 'eart man

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From: backer14@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Jumbies, Duppies, and Spirits
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:41:47 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1dufnhINNctn@network.ucsd.edu>, fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister) writes:
> In article <1992Nov11.200730.17957@wam.umd.edu> karib@next08csc.wam.umd.edu (Bediako Ntodi George) writes: 

>>Loogaroo
>>Soucouyanti
> 
> Loogaroo (should be loupgarou) is French, so I'd guess St Lucia or
> Trinidad or Dominica. Soucouyant is from Trinidad.

I found interesting that, in the above comment, none of the 'real' 
French-speaking Caribbean islands (Haiti, Martinique, Guadeloupe) were
mentioned.  Does that mean that the words listed above could not have
originated from these places?

'Loogaroo' does come from the French word 'loup-garou' and is widely
used in the creole of these 3 islands.  So is 'Soucouyan', also
spelled 'Soucougnan' in Guadeloupe and Martinique.  A 'soucougnan' is
a devilish spirit that scares people more than it harms them. (Refer to
a 1982 Kassav' song entitled precisely 'Soucougnan').

On another level, the fact that such words are used in different islands
denotes a commonality more than differences.  It would therefore be
more interesting to examine how certain expressions have spread through
 agroup of islands than to determine their exact origin.  I am willing to
bet that people from Trinidad, Martinique, and Guadeloupe could argue 
forever about 'soucougnan', not to mention folks from St Lucia or
Dominica.

Just my '50 centimes' on a very interesting subject.

Patrice Backer
Kreol pale', Kreol komprann
From: fledgist@weber.ucsd.edu (Fragano Ledgister)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Arthur Wint dies
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:38:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1dufclINNcld
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Nov3.010841.9917@vax.oxford.ac.uk> mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>
>Just read that Arthur Wint has died.  He was the first Olympic gold medal
>winner for Jamaica, winning the 400m in the (48?) Olympics.He  also had a 
>reasonably distinguished career as a surgeon, becoming a
>fellow of the Royal College of Surgeons.
>
>
>McBean

This is, alas, correct. He received a state funeral two weeks ago.
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From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Jumbies, Duppies, and Spirits
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:51:56 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Nov11.200730.17957@wam.umd.edu>, karib@next08csc.wam.umd.edu (Bediako Ntodi George) writes:
> spirits of the Caribbean.  Let's see how many of these you recognize. Do  
> you know which countries their from and what they are? :-
> 
> Duppy (real easy)	Googaralli
> Rolling Calf		Hydaralli
> Steel Donkey		
> Bacooman
> Moose
> Loogaroo
> Soucouyant
> Ole Higue
> Female (pretty hard)
> Cribeau
> Dutchman
> Moongazer
> Massacourou man
> Bush Dai-Dai
> 
> These are just a few of the top of my head. I would really like to hear  
> some more.  Anyone out there know of any others?

Pretty interesting list.  I recognise Duppy, Rolling Calf and Old Hige from
Jamaica.  As I remember it duppy is basic, Rolling Calf is a living terror and
Old Hige (similar to Soucouyant from T&T) sucks the life from you.  Personally
I don't give much credence to this but from a cultural standpoint it is very
interesting. Duppy know who fi frighten...

McBean
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas)
Subject: Re: Jumbies, Duppies, and Spirits
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:37:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.201245.14201@wam.umd.edu> karib@next10wor.wam.umd.edu (Bediako Ntodi George) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.230746.22612@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>  
>montas@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Hubert J Montas) writes:
>> 
>> Tonton Macoutes
>> Zinglindou
>> 
>>     H.
>> 
>Thanks Hubert.  I know what a Tonton Macoutes is, at least in reference to  
>Haiti.  These were the very real terrorists that were sanctioned during  
>"The Docs" reign of power.  They robbed and murdered until the fall of  
>Baby-Doc.  I wonder if they are still active today.  I also wonder what  
>the name means, and whether or not there is a spiritual reference .  I  
>have no idea what a Zinglindou is?  Could you enlighten me about that?  
>Thanks again!

      My understanding is that there are still some Tonton Macoutes in Haiti,
but many have been killed during the Deshoukaj operation. The name Tonton
Macoute is the equivalent of the Boogeyman that comes at night to take children
away whilts they sleep. In Haiti now, Zinglindou have replaced Tonton Macoute
in robbing and murdering innocent people. I'm not sure though about the origin
of the word Zinglindou. Any Haitians out there?

       H.
From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: good book
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:02:09 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: UB


	I was looking for any good books you may know of about Caribbean (in 
general); esp. history, economy, and the political situation...Just read 
_A Continent of Islands_, which was up to date and comprehensive...check it
out.
 
-- 
Patrice Simon
simon@acsu.cc.buffalo.edu			v5097ucd@ubvms.buffalo.edu
opnsimon@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: charan@crchh448.BNR.CA (Cliff Shivcharan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Need info on telecast of WI cricket.
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:38:21 GMT
Reply-To: charan@crchh448.BNR.CA (Cliff Shivcharan)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Hi All,

I am sure there are WI cricket fans in this News group. 
Does anyone know if the test matches of the current WI
tour of Australia will be televised to the Caribbean?
If anyone does, can you PLEASE, PLEASE post the satellite
and transponser info. I would greatly appreciate any info
on this. Thanx a bunch.

Regards, 
Cliff.
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Please revise your lexicon, ladies and gentlemen!
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:31:50 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Nov6.143944.7238@news2.cis.umn.edu>, prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Sa
tya Prabhakar) writes:
>>Bush won 17 states and got >170 electoral votes.  But so what?  The
>>electoral vote is skewed because of the winner-take-all format.  The
>>popular vote accurately reflects the sentiments of the people.
>>
>>>Clinton would have (yes, a supposition) got the majority
>>>in the popular vote if it hadn't been for screwball Perot.
>>Such suppositions are logical fallacies...
>>
>If the popular vote is the accurate indicator, then even Reagain
>didn't win by a landslide. In US, the electoral college vote
>determines the degree of landslide. To use one or the other
>selectively a per one's political affiliation is specious.
>
>Satya Prabhakar
>
Thank you for the fact - I was trying to remember back to 1980.  John ANderson
muddied the waters for Carter;  and I did vaguely remember that the popular
vote was close.
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From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.election,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: To the Clinton supporters
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:14:29 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Nov9.012910.4931@u.washington.edu> tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
>sorsha@wam.umd.edu (Laurie Beth Brunner) writes:

>>the government HAS done un-Constitutional, immoral things.  The Supreme
>>Court just ruled that the gag order on gov't family-planning
>>clinics is un-Constitutional.

>Wrong.  They ruled it constitutional quite a while ago.  The only recent
>ruling was not from the Supreme Court, and was not on a constitutional
>issue.  It was on a procedural issue.  Once the proper procedure is
>carried out, the gag order can go into effect (except that it won't
>because Clinton will remove it).

True.

While the gag rule MIGHT be constitutional, it isn't legal.  The Supreme
Court, continuing that conservative trend of writing the law rather than
interpreting it, :) allowed the gag rule, but they shouldn't have.

What the President did was REINTERPRET a 15 year old law to allow the
gag rule.  Congress had passed a law forbidding federal funds from being
used for abortions.  For years, this was interpreted to mean that
abortions couldn't be paid for with federal funds.

Then George Bush, pandering to the religious right, came up with his,
umm, unique interpretation of the law which also forbid talking about
abortions.  There is and has been NO hint anywhere that this is what
Congress had intended when they passed the law.

But the Supreme Court allowed it, because it fit their ideological
oppostion to abortion.

Anyway, the point is moot, since Clinton will rescind the rule once he
gets elected, even if it is put into place.
-- 
David M. Nieporent   | Mike Mussina 1992 AL Cy Young Winner
niepornt@phoenix.    |------------------------------------ 
   princeton.edu     | "I still believe in a place called Hope."
Clinton/Gore '92.  Don't stop thinking about tomorrow.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz)
Subject: Re: The Presidency
Summary: We may not like politicians, but we need them...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:12:51 GMT

Several interesting things:

1.  There were several prominent Republicans who endorsed Clinton to avoid
    getting caught in Bush's "coattails".  Bob Packwood of Oregon and
    Specter (sp?) of Pennsylvania are two of these.  Their point was that
    Clinton is a "conservative" Democrat who was ideologically opposed to
    their "liberal" opponents.  They were both largely centrist Republicans.

2.  Carter's problem was not that he was a "liberal" (he wasn't) - rather
    that he was a technocrat and micro-manager rather than a politician.
    While politics has gotten a bad rap lately, in the US, true politicians 
    like Reagan and Johnson get things done (like them or not) while managers
    and technocrats like Bush and Carter just can't get things through the
    legislature or inspire the people to put pressure on Congress to support
    their programs.  Bush's problem was that he forgot that in order to be
    a statesman you've got to be a politician :-)

    Clinton's record in Arkansas seems to indicate that he is skilled at
    working with legislators and getting things through by negotiation or
    intimidation if necessary, just as Johnson and Reagan could.  There was
    an interesting "Frontline" on PBS about Clinton in Arkansas a few nights
    ago...

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.election,talk.politics.misc
From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.election,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: To the Clinton supporters
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:36:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntp.1992Nov10.203632.12981
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange

>>(David Scharfe) writes:
>>>
>>>I agree, Brian.  Clinton has incredible audacity to speak of "healing"
>>>the nation while he plunders one group of people ("the rich") to 
>>>influence the voting of another ("the poor").
>>>
>>>This bald-faced promotion of class conflict, combined with shrill 
>>>rhetoric about "healing", is the epitome of hypocrisy.

Is anyone else amazed and appalled by the self-absorbed weeping over the
poor (sic) abused rich-people?

When was the last time any of you who are supporting this thread ever spent
one electron of net resources or one calorie of you personal energy
deploring, let alone doing something about, the physical, emotional,
financial, and institutional attacks on the poor, minorities, Hispanics,
Jews, Arabs, homosexuals, and so on??

When did you object to Pat Buchanan's invitation to "religious war"?  what
did you do to change the realities that gave rise to Rodney King's beating?
What do you do other than look for ways to make arguments that "the rich"
are somehow being oppressed in a way that is comparable to disadvantaged
groups in society?

You people are a bad joke!  I'll switch places in a minute with any of your
poor little rich folks, and I suspect you would have a hard time finding
any of them who would trade your worst senario for their lot in the Clinton
administration with anyone who experiences real oppression.  Get real!
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From: tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.election,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: To the Clinton supporters
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:29:10 GMT
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95

sorsha@wam.umd.edu (Laurie Beth Brunner) writes:
>the government HAS done un-Constitutional, immoral things.  The Supreme
>Court just ruled that the gag order on gov't family-planning
>clinics is un-Constitutional.

Wrong.  They ruled it constitutional quite a while ago.  The only recent
ruling was not from the Supreme Court, and was not on a constitutional
issue.  It was on a procedural issue.  Once the proper procedure is
carried out, the gag order can go into effect (except that it won't
because Clinton will remove it).

--Tim Smith
From: jlacey@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (james.w.lacey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: If clinton/gore die NOW, who succeeds?
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:52:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Nov12.131109.5558@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
>In article <74347@hydra.gatech.EDU>, vaps0de@prism.gatech.EDU (Dustin Emhart) writes:
>> In <92312.0030532893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> 2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (andy) writes:
>> 
>>>In article <1992Nov6.153452.5461@desire.wright.edu>, demon@desire.wright.edu
>>>(Stupendous Man) says:
>> 
>>>>In article <Bx8M6t.5Cx@newcastle.ac.uk>, w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
>> 
>>>>>   If the president of the US dies there is a long list of
>>>>> "heirs to the throne" starting at the Vice-president.
>>>>> But what if the President and Vice-President elect both
>>>>> die before they have nominated people to fill the different
>>>>> offices of state - who becomes President?
>> 
>>>>        Speaker of the House.  (S)he would then nominate a VP which congress
>>>>would have to approve.
>> 
>> In other words (example scenario): Clinton and Gore die after the Electoral
>> College votes for them. When Congress is called into session (which will
>> probably be done in a very timely manner), they elect a Speaker of the House,
>> who then takes over as President.
>
>	They've already done that.  Dole was recently re-elected to "Leader of
>the Pack" :) for the Republicans.  I'm assuming that the Dems aren't going to
>unseat the current Speaker/Whip/etc.
>...

The Speaker of the House is Tom Foley, a Democrat, who I 
believe was re-elected and would be expected to continue
as Speaker.  Bob Dole is a *Senator* and is not eligible
to be Speaker of the House (if that is what you meant?).
Bush recently made Dole the head of the Republican party.
BTW, the head of the Democrats is Ron Brown.

-- 
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     email:  att!cbnewsl!jlacey  or  jlacey@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
     D'ou venons-nous? Que sommes-nous? Ou allons-nous?
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