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From: dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby)
Subject: Re: future of china
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:46:07 GMT

mvdvalk@cs.utwente.nl (Martijn van der Valk) writes:

>I have a friend who did a PhD in the UK and has recently finished and went back
>to China. During his stay, he saw Liu4 Si4 on BBC and he couldn't believe it
>really happened. He defended the PRC government by saying that the PLA would
>never fire at the innocent civilians.

>Now he's back in China. He had the chance to earn some money whilst in UK, so
>in China he's a rich man. He has tried to fit in the Beijing university life
>after having his PhD.

>He is so disappointed with the system: his (uneducated) political bosses at the
>university are trying to limit his freedom and making sure that he will not
>become to successfull in his career. They fear that they will lose their
>position because of him.

>Recently, he has become so frustrated that now he wants to leave his job and
>start some commercial enterprise on his own, just to make some money and be
>his own boss, more or less.

>This is what PRC government is doing to its intellectuals.

>Martijn van der Valk                |          e-mail: mvdvalk@cs.utwente.nl
>7500 AE Enschede, The Nederlands    | Pegasus; Esprit BRA 6865

Don't be a dick head.  This happens in all societies.  When I first started
working at an Australian company, I was working very hard, and people
started putting me down because they fear I'll overtake them.  It happens
everywhere.  It happens in the Netherlands, too.

Why don't you spend more time fixing the Dutch Labour Union's problems back
home before you start criticizing other people's problems as if you don't
have the same problems, too. ???

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From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: A victory?
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:41:12 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <Bw2GJt.92w@cs.psu.edu> echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng) writes:
>
>	And how can you expect me to respect someone who claim that
>the achievements of China's open-door policy in recent years should
>be attributed primarily to prisoner labor products?

I would like to know who claimed that.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
Subject: U.S. Government Launches Anti-Drug Abuse Program in Schools
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:49:23 GMT
Organization: NDA


I thought you would want to see the following press release from the
Skyshapers Foundation.

 U.S. Government Launches Anti-Drug Abuse Program in Schools
 To: Assignment Desk, Education Writer
 Contact: John Wesley, 301-770-7390, ext. 235; or
          Nancy Mulligan, 301-770-7390, ext. 258,
          both for the Skyshapers Foundation

   News Advisory:

   At 9 a.m. on Thursday, Oct. 15, the Skyshapers Foundation, in
collaboration with the U.S. Public Health Service and the President's
Council on Physical Fitness and Sports, will announce the creation of
an entertaining in-school program -- Skyshapers.
   Using animated characters and rock and rap music, Skyshapers
materials will give the nation's children tools for building
self-esteem and a future free of alcohol and other drugs.  The U.S.
Surgeon General, Dr. Antonia Novello, will speak at the event, along
with Captain John Butterfield from the President's Council on
Physical Fitness and Sports, Ellie Dylan, founder of Skyshapers, and
Michael Cookson, president of AVIVA Sports, a corporate sponsor of
the program.  Other speakers include Elaine Johnson, Ph.D., acting
administrator of the Substance Abuse and Mental Health Administration
and Vivian Smith, M.S.W., acting director of the Center for Substance
Abuse Prevention.
   There will also be first-grade students present from Ashburton
Elementary School in Montgomery County, who have been using the
Skyshapers materials, as well as singers from the Duke Ellington
School, who will perform the Skyshapers theme song, along with the
Surgeon General.
   This event will be held in the Main Lounge of the National Press
Club, 14th and F streets, N.W., Washington, D.C.
 -30-

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From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: Full-Auto 22s manufactured by Drug-Crazed DEATH SQUADS in GLASGOW
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:14:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.150645.29998@gtephx.UUCP> forda@gtephx.UUCP (Andrew Ford @ AGCS, Phoenix, Arizona) writes:
>In article <1992Sep22.000217.28221@nevada.edu>, crail@nevada.edu (DONNA CRAIL-RUGOTZKE) writes:
>> Recently I applied for a job at a local casino (I live in Las Vegas) and they
>> had a large sign over one of the windows saying that all employees would have
>> to submit to a "hair test" in order to be tested for drugs.  Can anyone tell
>> me what a hair test is and how accurate it is?  Also would certain brands of
>> soap or shampoo give a false positive?  Thanks in advance.

  Does this mean that if you're bald that you must be straight?

Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs,alt.individualism
From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Free Country WHERE?  (was: Products to be banned by the FDA)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 03:20:37 GMT

starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr) writes:

>Buy gold, vote Libertarian, and find a free country to flee to!

And just where are you going to find a "free" country to flee to once the
USA is no longer free enough?  Some time ago I asked people to make a case
for various "free" countries, and judging from the response I got, there is
no place to run to.  Canada is the origin of some of our recent censorship
legislation.  In the UK, freedom of the press has the strength of legal
precedent, but no basis in the fundamental structure of the government.
Switzerland drafts every male who can stand up, and the church and state
are intertwined on a regional level (or so I've been told).  American women
who have visited New Zealand and Australia tell me they are not free havens
if you happen to be female.  Anyone got any suggestions?

Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: garrett@Ingres.COM (FRIENDS DON'T LET FRIENDS VOTE REPUBLICAN)
Subject: Re: Voting against prohibition
Summary: Second that motion  
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Distribution: usa
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:57:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.045925.3585@Cadence.COM>, phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)                              writes...
>In article <1992Sep24.132728.26835@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Paul Hager" <hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu> writes:
>>>Should I vote my gut, or my conscience?
>>
>>Split the ticket -- vote for the top of the Democratic ticket,
>>Clinton/Gore -- and Libertarians for all other positions.  Here
> 
>Great advice, Paul!  That's exactly what I'm doing: Clinton/Gore for national,
>Genis and Boddie for the two open Senate seats.  If I'm *sure* Clinton will
>win in California, though, I'll probably cast my vote for Marrou/Lord to
>increase the L count.
> 
I thought I was the only person that did that! I don't necessarily
vote Libertarian (although they are my third party of choice) as a 
second choice, but they are usually the only alternative. Since it
looks like Clinton is going to win California going away, it looks 
like I'll have my choice all the way through.

>-Pete Zakel
> (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)
> 
>"The most merciful thing in the world ... is the inability of the human mind to
> correlate all its contents."
>					-H. P. Lovecraft
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: bill@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: ON NOVEMBER 3 GET OFF THE NET AND VOTE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:45:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.080900.18463@gator.rn.com>, Ted.Schafer@bbs.rn.com (Ted Schafer) writes:
> VOTE NOVEMEBER 3.
>    THANKS

I'm sorry, but you have it wrong.
The date of the referendum is Oct. 26.

Vote NO.

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Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: dolan@nrlmry.navy.mil (Kent Paul Dolan)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: BUTANE - WHAT THE HECK?
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:03:31 GMT

TomF quotes a bit about butane sniffing, and claims that what he quotes
leads him to favor drug legalization.

Which reminds me of the family of seven my wife treated. Too poor to
afford street drugs, they were addicted, down to the three year old, to
sniffing gasoline.

Suuuure we need to make even more drugs available cheap and easily
accessible.

To the ninnies who contend that drug use is price insensitive, so that
cheap, legal drugs will not involve more widespread substance abuse,
may I recommend the latest Navy Times. Seems the military have a _much_
better way of tracking drug use changes, what with random and frequent
drug testing, than "researchers" who trust self reporting to be valid;
and the article notes that the recent fall in the street price of
cocaine has been exactly reflected in a rise in the positive urine
tests for cocaine. This among folks who are threatened with loss of job
and career, possible imprisonment, and guaranteed to be caught; people
experiencing among the strongest reasons for avoiding cocaine use.

What do you think the result would be among those facing no such
sanctions?

Can you say "substance abuse explosion"?  Only if you can think, I
suppose.

Kent, the man from xanth.
"The Birthright of humankind is the stars!"
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From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: some notes on the presidential debate
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:21:18 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.drugs
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS) writes:
>
>   I like the fact that the moderator mentioned Will Buckley and 
>Milton Freedman when he asked the question.  The answers were of
>course an exercise in masturbation.  I think if Buckley, Freidman,
>or anyone who supports legalization had been participating in the
>debate for that question, it might have actually been interesting.

     Indeed.

     Did anyone else notice Bush scratch his nose just as he mentioned
cocaine? I found it hilarious, myself.

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Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: War on drunk driving fails
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:03:47 GMT

In article 1bl1daINNo8b@smaug.West.Sun.COM, dab@ism.isc.com (Dave Butterfield) writes:
>tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
>>Also, make the method of execution death by removal of organs for transplant
>>so that the body doesn't go to waste.
>
>You can have the liver.

We can give the brain to Kent.

---
Richard Stueven        gak@wrs.com         attmail!gakhaus!gak        107/H/3&4

        I'm always more outspoken after a few pints of Guinness.
                - Mrs. E. Slocombe
From: dab@ism.isc.com (Dave Butterfield)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Another WOD death
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:56:45 GMT
Organization: x
NNTP-Posting-Host: change

tucker@shiva.UUCP (George Tucker) writes:
>[The cops] burst into the house, seized his wife, and then...
>shot several times and killed him.  
>They looked desperately since they had all the papers ready to  
>seize the property, but couldn't find marijuana or anything else.   

Juries in this part of the country have already confirmed
that it's OK for cops to beat citizens with clubs.  This
is a logical extension.  No doubt the cops will be exonerated
and be back out "serving the public" soon.
-- 
                  The U.S. constitution has its flaws,
          but it's a damn sight better than what we have now!
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc,alt.drugs
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: War on drunk driving fails
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 00:23:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.221335.20967@u.washington.edu> tzs@stein.u.washingt
n.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
>dougm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>>What?  You mean jail won't cure an alcoholic?  Better start
>>confiscating those cars and houses!  We do know how to turn a drunken 
>>bum into a homeless drunken bum.
>
>Or increase the jail time.  If there is not enough space in the jails, t
en
>make the fifth offense punishable by death (fifth offense gives you two
>chances to learn and two relapses after you've learned).
>
>Also, make the method of execution death by removal of organs for transp
ant
>so that the body doesn't go to waste.
>
>--Tim Smith



 Oh yeah, especially the liver... Would you want an alcoholic's organs in
YOUR body? (No pun... ;-) All that ethyl-rot...              

St. Anthony

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Xref: sparky talk.politics.drugs:6772 sci.med:19141
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs,sci.med
Subject: Re: NATURAL ANTI-cancer/AIDS Remedies
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:47:29 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University

mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:

>               ( Some of these Remedies also work against AIDS. )

	...but the magic of these natural cures may be only fully utilized
by trained crystal shamans.

>          In my opinion, if a person finds out that s/he has cancer, 
>          then s/he should promptly try at least the first 4 remedies 
>          described above, in sequence (starting with The 7-Day Fast), 
>          BEFORE resorting to the UN-natural and expensive mutilations 
>          and agonies [POISON, BURN, and MUTILATE!] of orthodox cancer 
>          treatment [organi$ed-CRIME!]. 

	You are a moron if you believe the drivel you've posted, which
is fine, but I truely hope to God for you that nobody who believes this 
crap and dies because of it read it from you.

>                                   Robert E. McElwaine

Jim Del Vecchio
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: dab@ism.isc.com (Dave Butterfield)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc,alt.drugs
Subject: Re: War on drunk driving fails
Date: 16 Oct 1992 00:12:26 GMT
Organization: x
NNTP-Posting-Host: change

tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith) writes:
>>What?  You mean jail won't cure an alcoholic?
>
>Also, make the method of execution death by removal of organs for transplant
>so that the body doesn't go to waste.

You can have the liver.

-- 
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				-- Vice President Dan Quayle
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc,alt.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: War on drunk driving fails
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:47:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.084752.43867@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, dougm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>From NEWSWEEK: October 19, 1992 pg. 8.  Printed without permission.
>
>Still Drinking, Still Driving
>
>	When it comes to drunken driving, some people never learn.
>The latest statistics available from the Justice Department show that
>the number of driving-while-intoxicated arrests rose 22 percent in the
>1980s.  

Possibly due to increased incentives to the police.  I think they used to
let a lot of the borderline cases go with a warning.  In addition, the legal
Blood Alcohol Content limits have been lowered in many states.

>Sixty-one percent reported drinking only beer prior to their arrest
>and only 17 percent were drinking alone.

How does this compare to drinkers-in-general?  I drink "only beer" almost
every weekend.

>Just as alarming is the fact that more than half of the 1.7
>million Americans arrested for drunken driving in 1989 had already
>done jail or prison time for DWI.  One third of those arrested for
>drunken driving had been in the slammer for DWI three or more times.

I bet most of them knew DWI was dangerous/illegal.  They chose to endanger
others and need to be punished.  

Given that there are people who drink and drive despite heavy enforcement
and education, we should look into other ways of protecting society from
them.

>What?  You mean jail won't cure an alcoholic?  Better start
>confiscating those cars and houses!  We do know how to turn a drunken 
>bum into a homeless drunken bum.

How about this:  more busses.  Use revenue from liquor taxes to pay for
busses that continue running until 30 minutes after the bars close.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
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From: atfurman@cup.portal.com (A T Furman)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs,alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: some notes on the presidential debate
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:04:49 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <BvzKJ7.9EG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

>   I like the fact that the moderator mentioned Will Buckley and 
>Milton Freedman when he asked the question.  The answers were of
>course an exercise in masturbation.  I think if Buckley, Freidman,
>or anyone who supports legalization had been participating in the
>debate for that question, it might have actually been interesting.
>
>-- 
> --  Tony Pulokas
>     University of Illinois, Urbana/Champaign
>     College of Engineering

Four men are on the ballot in all 50 states as candidates for the 
President of the U.S.

One of them supports legalization.
      

    Alan T. Furman         | VOTE LIBERTARIAN!!  Marrou/Lord in 92!!
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs
From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Letter in last week's USA Today
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:08:21 GMT

I didn't see the editorial this was a response to, but it was
interesting, so I thought I'd share it.

Letter to the editor, Friday, Oct 9:
----
Concern over alcohol
	As a 13-year employee in the alcoholic beverage industry and a
mother, I read the Sept 29 Comment by Vivian Smith with much interest.
	My concern is the way she casually links the consumption of
alcoholic beverages with the use of illegal drugs.  History reflects the
responsible use of alcohol by millions.  All of a sudden, these
traditional beverages are being linked to the use of illegal drugs.
	I am terrified of my son learning in school that alcoholic
beverages are the same as illegal drugs.  How will I explain the
difference between seeing mommy and daddy enjoy a beer while watching a
football game and the drug pusher he will meet on the street who will
offer him crack cocaine and tell him it won't hurt him -- after all, his
parents drink alcohol, don't they?
	Our children need to be educated on the differences between
alcoholic beverages and illegal drugs, not told that they are the same
thing.
		Mary L. Kita
		Lanham, MD
-----
And there are some people on this group who actually think they can
convince the public that legalization is a good idea?  I support anyone
who tries, but I have just one thing to say -- good luck.

-- 
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niepornt@phoenix.    | Mike Mussina 1992 AL Cy Young Winner
   princeton.edu     | Roland Hemond: SIGN BARRY BONDS!!!!!!!!
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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.drugs,alt.politics.usa.misc,alt.politics.usa.constitution,alt.individualism,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Boot camp?
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:43:49 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University

wayne@mathematik.uni-Bremen.de (Wayne Tvedt) writes:

>Jason Austin (jason@ab20.larc.nasa.gov) wrote:
>>  It's only required to those that join the military, and
>>military service is voluntary in this country except for in time of
>>extreme emergency.  

>  Which the Drug Crisis surely is.  

	Everything is a crisis at all times, in case you haven't noticed.

"Heath Care Crisis",  "Education Crisis", "Gun Violence Crisis" aka
"Proliferation of Handguns Crisis", "Steroid Abuse Crisis", "Robotussin 
Drinking Kids Crisis", "Homelessness Crisis", "Pit Bull Crisis"*, "Poverty 
Crisis", "Energy Crisis", "Enviornmental Crisis",  "Morals of Today's Youth 
Crisis", "Drunk Driving Crisis";

Sound familiar?  They should, every single "* Crisis" listed above
has been shrilly and repetitively warned about on NPR or some other 
media "Crisis" mill in recent years.

*Remember that one?  That one was popular all over the country just
before the "Drug Crisis" got big again in the mid 80s.

	The media need a crisis, anything can be one.  

There has never, ever, not even for one day, been a time when this 
country was not in a "crisis" of some kind.   I challange you to
remember a such a time.

Jim Del Vecchio
From: stm3f@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Sarah Thomas Mumford)
Subject: First Debate
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:41:49 GMT

     Did anyone who watched the first presidential debate think
it as humorous as I did?  George Bush's petty and defensive
attitude really worked against him, and Clinton with his frog
voice and ever smiling face looking like he's about to laugh as
he talks about AIDS.  Of course Perot was the comedian of the
hour - he knows he has no chance of winning so besides putting
heat on the other two parties, he can give the country a few
laughs it definitely needs.
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