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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Ultimate Warrior
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:13:11 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

Ultimate warrior was not DINGO warrior when he first came..then was back 
in the UWF, he was Dingo warrior with short, kinda puffy hair and a mustache
and not as many bands around the arms and legs, just a few (i thought it
actually looked better, he has too many around his calves)

his first appearance was in a 10 man battle royal that Bam Bam won by 
throwing Herc and ??? out at the same time.  He was introduced as the 
Ultimate Warrior and his big push in this event was throwing out Boris
Zhukov over the top rope by a press slam above the head, although he didn't
really have a good press because instead of holding him in the crotch, he 
tried to hold the back of Zhukov's trunks so it wasn't really a press and
Zhukov's legs looked almost like they were resting on Warrior's shoulders
since warrior made hte mistake of only holding zhukov's trunks.

I'm not sure what happened after this, but I think that 
he was thrust into the Herc feud. 
-Ben
From: s4666843@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Liam Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: IRC weekly chat?????
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:55:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

If people want to start up a weekly IRC chat for wrestling discussion,
I'd definately be interested...

  Cheers,
    Liam Kelly (s4666843@tethys.ucc.umass.edu)
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From: cook@vcsesu.enet.dec.com (The Cookster!)
Subject: Re: Wrestlemania(*****spoilers) and a ?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  6 APR 92 09:59:20    


In article <1992Apr5.231038.526@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu>, mecroy@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu writes...
> 
>Now on to my question....Who was playing the Ultimate Warrior??

	It was Jim Hellwig.

>Me and my friend both thought it wasn't Hellwig.  He kinda looked like
>(and walked and shook his head like) Kerry Von Erich.

	Nope. Kerry's hair is much different, and kerry wouldn't have
	been able to run down the ramp like that, he's got bum leg.

	Jim stopped juicing is all.

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From: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Subject: Ellering
Reply-To: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 01:33:59 GMT


Can someone post some history on Paul Ellering?

shaun


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From: cook@vcsesu.enet.dec.com (The Cookster!)
Subject: Re: Wrestlemania Comments
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  6 APR 92 09:53:36    


	That was Hellwig. I didn't like his face paint, or the length
	of his hair. It should have been longer! He's definitely off
	the juice now, I was amazed at the difference. 

	Luger has definitely been juicing hard! He's grown immensely
	since leaving the WCW.

	The crowd WAS thin. Kinda cute how they tried to handle the
	problem, not good enough though.

	I was very surprised to see the Legion of Doom after all the
	talk that was going on about them possibly going to Japan, etc..
	Nice to see Ellering back! I wonder how he did in the race...anyone
	know?

	Flair was robbed! But I definitely think they will strip the
	title from Savage. Then thing will get REAL interesting again.
	

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From: macca@cix.compulink.co.uk (Ian Nicholls)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: FLAIR JOBS FOR SMITH IN BRIGHTON ENGLAND
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:03:29 GMT
Reply-To: Ian Nicholls <macca@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Organization: Gated to News by demon.co.uk

1) see header. It was a clean pin.
2) Jake Roberts appears to be off the whole tour, replaced by Da
Mountie.
3) It looks like The Barbarian is off the tour, replaced by a heel
Dino Bravo.
Bob Hutton.
From: v070qg5d@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric M Chmiel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Global and ESPN
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:07:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


    With all this talk of Global's impending demise, one thing keeps coming
to mind: what becomes of Global's ESPN contract?  Are they obligated to continue
to produce shows for a certain amount of time?  And if they can't, will ESPN
pursue another promotion to provide wrestling programming?  I would think that
ESPN would, since they have been showing wrestling staedily for many years now,
from the AWA to the WCCW to Global.  Ever notice that an ESPN contract seems to
be the death blow for a wrestling promotion?  Two of ESPN's three wrestling
shows were from organizations that no longer exist.  The third is sick and
appears to be on its death bed.
    If ESPN tries to find another league, I for one pray every day that it will
be the USWA.  There is no other logical choice...
                                                   -Eflow
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From: dejmille@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (dean joseph miller)
Subject: Warrior Comments
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington IN.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:53:32 -0500


	As I was one of the first people to speculate that it wasn't
the Warrior, I apologize.  NO ONE could interview like Mr. Hellwig, esp. his
little snort at the end.  Hulk Hogan is lucky that the Ultimate Hulkamanic
(would this person be the mark god or what?) told Jim to come down from
his mountain and bring his forces to Wrestlemania.  I'd be willing to bet
that Vince would have used someone else to play the Warrior if it wasn't for
those Slim Jim ads.  I mean, Vince did kick the guy out!

	However, I have a confession to make.  I look to the Warrior the way 
the Johnster looks to the Hulkster.  I don't know why..the man can't do 
anything, but I think he's great, and I'm glad he's back.  I must congratulate
him--to sprint down to the ring and still have enough energy to do a
clothesline--Maybe his workrate will go up now that he's been off the juice!

Dean
From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Subject: Re: Hey there Tonto, who is that masked man?
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 11:25:20 GMT


In a previous article, becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) says:

>fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) writes:
>
>>>No, no, no. You've got it all wrong. It's Jim on the cover of Abbey Road
>>>and all subsequent albums. The whole "Paul's dead" thing was true. After
>>>Hellwig broke into wrestling, Steve DiSalvo replaced Hellwig and toured 
>>>as Paul McCartney. For Flowers In The Dirt, Del Wilkes played the role of
>>>McCartney, with DiSalvo and Scott Hall combining their guitar talent under
>>>the name "David Gilmour".
>>> 
>>>--Don
>
>>But you're all forgetting William Campbell.  What role did he play in
>>all of this?
>
>Who do you think fathered Amanda Ultimate Warrior? 

I thought William Campbell was The Rocketeer?
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From: 880691c@ace.acadiau.ca (MATT CUNDILL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Warrior Comments
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:59:59 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <1992Apr15.030526.22472@physics.ucla.edu> price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes:
>From: price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price)
>Subject: Re: Warrior Comments
>Date: 15 Apr 92 03:05:26 GMT

>In article <880691c.59.703198450@ace.acadiau.ca>, 880691c@ace.acadiau.ca (MATT CUNDILL) writes:
>>Well, [the Ultimate Warrior's] back from the mountain. He still can't 
>>interview. 

>Excuse me?  His interviews are some of the best out there today!  The only 
>better ones IMHO are Hogan (who just forces you to listen, he's so hyped 
>up), Flair (who...well, you know...), and Hawk (as if there was any 
>doubt!).

>>Essentially he 
>>has filled a void of inconsistant boredom/excitiment that only he could 
>>define.

>That's pretty Zen... want to explain that a little better?

Sorry for being vague. Exams. The Warrior has the ability to put on a great 
performance. Some of the best matches in the WWF have featured him: UW vs. 
Macho Man (WMVII), UW vs. Rick Rude (SS '89), UW vs. Hogan (WMVI). 
He has the ability to be really good, and if he's not it's really bad.

As for the interviews, he could do better if he had more flair. : )
He should get to the point and drop all references to mountains, the power 
of his little Warriors, grunting, snarling etc. Don't get me wrong, the 
Warrior is my favourite... I just hate it when he looks like a dork.
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From: sw36+@andrew.cmu.edu (Scott Michael White)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Quiz #3 WCCW
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:00:52 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

For World Class Fans

1.  Who was Rick Rude's manager in WCCW?
2.  What was the Ultimate Warriors name in WCCW?
3.   Name the original Freebirds?
4.    Who beat Ric rude for the HC?
5.    Who did Koko B. Ware team with and what was their tag team name?
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From: rdickel@cs.strath.ac.uk (Robert A Dickel IE91)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Piper Injured??
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:19:41 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
Originator: rdickel@simpson-04


I was watching WWF Superstars of Wrestling (Friday, Sky One) when a scrolling 
message along the screen announced that for the European Rampage:

   "Due to injury Rowdy Roddy Piper will be replaced by the Texas Tornado"

So is this the real reason for Piper not fighting, or is this Vinnies way
of retiring Piper from Wrestling, I saw that the 'Piper's Pit' is back...

And what about the Texas Tornado???  I thought Vinnie had given him the
boot for trying to obtain perscription drugs illegally???  Or is Vinnie
pulling a fast one on the British since very few people read r.s.p.w
in the UK??? :)))

Just my view on things ...

Bob (the new bandwidth kid on the block)

ps. Flair was robbed!!!!!
pps. Can anyone post any stuff about Ric Flair from his NWA days on the
     net or tell me where to get info. by anon. ftp .... Us British get
     very little coverage of the WCW ....


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From: Fuzzy@colonel.Corp.Sun.COM (Michael Shames/Contractor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Steroids in wrestling, big deal!!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:56:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: damserver-bb.corp.sun.com


	some comments on the comments to my comments

In article <12415@umd5.umd.edu> ap72@linus.umd.edu (CMSC 330) writes:
>In article <ku46j9INN581@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> Fuzzy@colonel.Corp.Sun.COM (Michael Shames/Contractor) writes:
>>
>>       but would
>>	you want all wrestlers to look like Earthquake or (God help us)
>>	Uncle Elmer (@550+).
>
>        No, 'cause people don't turn into the Earthquake or Uncle Elmer
>        from steroids, they turn into them from too much fat and lack of 
>        exercise.    
>>	likewise, Sid Juicer is amusing but only because he is unique.
>>	a sid vs. sid type match would be interesting ONCE but would you really
>>	want a constant diet of Sid vs. King Kong Bundy?
>
>        But it would be more like Sid vs. Juiced Jim Hellwig or 
>        Sid vs. 'Roid Hungry Hogan.  But again, I didn't say they should
>        all go on steroids, just that if they do, we shouldn't care.

	my point wasn't that the fat boys use roids, but that the roiders were
	striving for the unique. one fat boy is interesting, a stable full
	isn't. likewise for roiders.
	Freaks are only interesting if'en they are FREAKS. if everyone looks 
	like sid and HH, they lose their draw. and do you really want an
	endless series of Sid vs. UW vs. HH?
	IMHO most of us seem to think that roider vs. roider tisn't the most
	interesting of matches
	and i DO care for the reasons reiterated below


>>	also -- Fred Blassie wrestled into his fifties. a roider can't do
>>	that. i want to keep seeing the good folks for many years to come.
>>			mike (235 lbs) shames
>
>        But most of the good folks are 'roidin' the bandwagon, that's why
>        they are good. (But I'm sure there are some clean "good folks" around.)

	yes, there are, my list of "good folks" doesn't include the bulkster
	or uw. (though if hellwig can keep up that aerobic workrate he 
	displayed at wm8, my opinion could change)
	my favorites ( currently working) include :
		ric flair, undertaker, bam bam bigalow ( and i would love to
	know where he is), jake roberts, rick steamboat,
	most of the DA,  mike (irs) rotundo, (and yes) earthquake.
	none of the above LOOK like roiders ( they may be, we CAN'T know, but
	thats how it looks).
	
	BTW, i hear tell that one way to see steamboat put on an actual
	martial arts demo is to bring steroids into his gym.

		mike (235 lbs and none of it from roids) shames
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From: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Subject: Re: WM8: Savage - Flair a shoot?
Reply-To: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:30:22 GMT


In a previous article, klr5824@hertz.njit.edu (The REAL Rambo) says:

>In article <1992Apr10.144320.20577@acsu.buffalo.edu> becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes:
>>	3.) Savage DID pull the tights to get the pin. Usually, 
>>		when a face is scripted to win a title, he does
>>		it relatively cleanly (Hogan vs. UT, TTIT is the
>>		exception).
>
>What about Savage vs. Dibiase?  (off the top of my head)
>

Backlund vs. Graham, Graham had his foot on the ropes.

Speaking of face's cheating, are there any clean title wins for heels?
Seems like I remember reading that Koloff vs. Sammartino was clean, but
I could be wrong.
-- 
Green Goblin		internet:macika@emunix.emich.edu

"You've got to bleed for the dancer."
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Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 20:49:23 EST
From: <ACPS7032@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: MACHO MANIA MACHO MANIA MACHO MANIA
 <1992Apr8.171344.14358@philabs.philips.com>

may you get very sick


  macho man will lose soon enough!!!!

D!  W       W  W       W  WWWWWW !M
A!  W   W   W  W   W   W  WWWWW  !A
R!  W  W W  W  W  W W  W  W      !N
K!   WW   WW    WW   WW   W      !!
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From: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: GWF Update 4/6
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:55:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr7.065527.17637
Reply-To: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, Fuzzy@colonel.Corp.Sun.COM (Michael Shames/Contractor) says:

>In article <1992Apr6.124231.1744@memstvx1.memst.edu> ussmith@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>>GWF Update
>>Just a few tidbits...
>>Nightmare Danny Davis is the GWF Light Hvwt. Champion ( I think that's
>>what it's called.)
>	
>	any relation to the dangerous danny davis who was the ref @ wm8
>	8 man tag?
>
>	does VMcM let his refs wrestle elsewhere ?
>	does he care ????
>		
>		mike shames
>

I know that they're not the same person, although I'm not sure if they're
related or not.  BTW: Someone posted recently that Danny Davis wrestled
at Wrestlemania I as the Executioner.  Can anyone verify/dispute this?
-- 
Green Goblin		internet:macika@emunix.emich.edu

"You've got to bleed for the dancer."
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From: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Subject: Re: Live audience stories
Reply-To: bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 22:26:36 GMT


In a previous article, RHK106@psuvm.psu.edu () says:

>Does anyone else out there have some live audience stories?
>

Well at a show at Cobo Hall in Detroit in Summer 90, one of the matches
was WCW champs Doom vs. the Steiners.  (The Steiners won and the crowd
went wild for the hometown boys.  The program didn't list it as a title 
match and I pointed this out to my girlfried moments before Teddy Long
kindly announced to the crowd that the match was non title, anyway...)

My girlfriend ran to ringside as Butch Reed had Rick Steiner out of the ring.
She yelled some things at him, typical 'You're so lame you gotta cheat to win'
stuff.  He called her a 'bitch'.  I giggled.
-- 
Green Goblin		internet:macika@emunix.emich.edu

"You've got to bleed for the dancer."
From: vpo%tdat@UUNET.UU.NET (Vandoren Outten)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: re : WMVIII Observation
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:27:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: tdat.9204071627.AA05371


 
 >  > Vandoren "12-line-sig" Outten writes:
 > 
 > > The stadium was packed, although it clearly wasn't sold out. I heard
 > > two local sports news reports that over 56,000 folks were present.
 > 
 > Hmmm...  reports a couple days before the event said Vince had  only
 > sold a
 > little over 20,000 tickets.  Did he paper the dome BIG-TIME or what?
 > 
 > 
 > 		--Otto "HACK-MAN" Heuer
 > --
 > C, Pascal, Fortran, BASIC, Assembly Language, Snobol, Ada, APL, Prolog,
 > LISP
 > Unix, MS-DOS, ProDOS       .  .   .   .... .  .   .   .   .   .   .
 > Audio/Video
 > ottoh@cfsmo.honeywell.com  :..: .:.:. :    :.' .. :`.': .:.:. :`. :
 > Wrestling
 > hackman@pnet51.orb.mn.org  :  : :   : :... : `.   :   : :   : :  `:
 > Apple IIgs
 > 

Gee Otto, I didn't know that there was a limit on the length of sigs.
I guess I should've used your "10-line-sig" as a model for my own. That
way, I could also list every programming language that I've ever heard of.
I'm sure that impresses the babes.

As for what percentage of the WrestleMania VIII audience was papered,
I don't know. We'll have have to wait for an "official" insider report.
But there's no question that many more than 20,000 folks were present.




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From: C065N2X2@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: predications-wrestlemania
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:51:10 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo

Well it is now 3:55 p.m. There is about an hour to go before Wrestlemania 8
starts. I won't be able to see it here in Buffalo. Anyway I hope my friend will
 send me a copy of it before Saturday. Anyway here is what I think will
 happen. Hogan will beat Sid who will then with just about all the rulebreakers
 attack Hogan. Hogan will be saved by the Ulimate Warrior and Lex Luger and the
 Undertaker.
     Flair will retain the belt but Liz will turn heel.
     Hart will regain the belt and be attacked by Michaels.
     The Undertaker will get DDT only to get up again and tombstone Jake.
     Money Inc will retain the belts due to the interference of LOD and
     Crush and Smash.
     The other matches I really don't care who wins.
Now as I sign off for the next week or so (I will not read this group or watch
wrestling until I see Wrestlemania) I leave you with this.

    "No matter how you look at it, she was MINE before she was yours!
         WOOOOOOOO!"---you know who
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From: joepet@engin.umich.edu (Joe Petrow)
Subject: Re: Disputing The "Stable Champ" Theory
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 23:57:30 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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In article <1992Apr16.210413.22859@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, bm927@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dominic Macika) writes:
> 
> 
> In a previous article, joepet@engin.umich.edu (Joe Petrow) says:
> 
> >Someone once said that what Vince really wants is a "stable" champ who will
> >dominate over the Federation.  The following is a list of all champions who
> >have won (read: NOT just "successfully defended" a title by not being pinned
> >or submitting) a title match on a PPV:
> > 
> >Demolition
> >Rockin Robin
> >The Ultimate Warrior
> >
> >This is it.  Look it up if you don't believe me.  Only three champions winning
> >title matches in five years and you're telling me Vince believes in stability?
> >
> ><<The Rugged One>>
> ><<<<Joe Petrow>>>>
> >
> 
> Ummm, Hogan defeated Bundy at WM II and Andre at WM III.  I'm sure there 
> are others...
> -- 
> Green Goblin		internet:macika@emunix.emich.edu
> 
> "You've got to bleed for the dancer."
> 
Whelp, seems I typed too fast to think!  I meant to say that only three
champs have won a title match since WRESTLEMANIA III (which still could've
been ascertained when I said "Only three champions winning title matches in
FIVE years...").
 
Oh well, seems I got more response because of it than I would have, though.
 
<<The Rugged One>>
<<<<Joe Petrow>>>>