From: mush@craycos.com (Randy Murrish)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,alt.politics.homosexuality,co.politics
Subject: Re: Colorado Amendment 2: The First Fatality
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:13:31 GMT
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In-reply-to: gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu's message of 13 Nov 92 00:17:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.001758.8642@ncar.ucar.edu> gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes:

>rm> Randy Murrish
>gs> Gary Strand

>rm> I'm sorry that everyone does not fit your mold of a model human being, but
     there are individuals in our society that need others for their own
     self-validation.

> As Richard Feynmann said, "What do you care what other people think?" There
> can be times when we are our only friends. I happen to believe that those
> times are the ones in which we learn the most about ourselves.

Why do you continue to question the way OTHER people interact with
socity?  Marty delt with the passage of CO-2 in his own way, you
obviously don't agree with with way he delt with it and so you
belittle him by saying that he obviously was incorrect because he
cared about what others thought of him.  (rambling I know)

> rm> The simple fact remains that one of the reasons Marty committed suicide 
      was because of the passage of CO-2.  period.

> And what does that have to do with #2? Nothing.

What does Martys death have to do with CO-2?  His life.  I firmly
believe that Marty would still be with us today if CO-2 had not
passed.  I obviously cannot prove that statement, but I firmly believe
it. 

> rm> [T]he public needs to realize that passing an amendment to the constitu-
      tion that denies certain rights to homosexuals will have profound impacts 
      in certain peoples lives.

> Just like letting 16 year-olds drive. That doesn't mean it's a bad law.

What?

> rm> Society is made up of a variety of individuals, we haven't a person to
      waste.

> Oh, I don't know about that. If Jerry Falwell disappeared tomorrow, I'd shed
> no tears. Same with Phyllis Schafly, Jesse Jackson, Jesse Helms, Howard
> Metzenbaum, and a bunch of others.

You know, I kinda guessed this kind of flatulance would come out of
Gary's mouth sometime.  Get rid of anyone with a controversial stance
and the world would be a better place, right Gary?  Oppress anyone
that thinks differently than you, right Gary?

The facts remain the same, Marty was pushed over the edge by the
passage of Amendment 2 and committed suicide.  Read into his death
what you want, the forces at work to overturn CO-2 have not used his
death to further their political struggle.  It was simply a story in
the local paper that reported the facts in the case.  If Martys
picture were plastered on billboards with the slogan "Amendment 2
killed Marty Booker" then you would have a legitimate case of
exploitation. 

Thanks Gary, for the enlightening discussion.

> --
> Gary Strand                      Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
> strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF


Randy
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