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From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ( Hari Seldon ... psychohistorian )
Subject: Re: Building in a flood plain...
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:14:44 GMT

In <12OCT199216361606@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu> broy@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Barbara Roy) writes:

>In article <1992Oct12.183826.21955@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mvm@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (michael.v.murphy) writes...
>>     I recently purchased some land that is in Indiana's one hundred year 
>>flood plane. The county in which the land is located has approved the building
>> 

>You may have trouble getting insurance for a house built in the flood plain or
>it may be very expensive.

>If the land regularly floods, your well can be contaminated. 

>I've seen some houses built in floodplains where they've built the cement
>"basement" above ground and have their living quarters on the floor above. That

one could always look at the way houses are built on the shore of the ocean.
in va and nc i know the standard method is to build on pilings, with
a skirt around the pilings. this may be possible in your area also.
you might want to consider having an above ground water storeage
tank for those times when the water rises, it'll give you some time
for the flood to run off before you need to buy bottled.

bill pociengel
--
llbi locgeenpi " i'm a little confused right now"
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: kaufman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Building in a flood plain...
Reply-To: kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:29:25 GMT

mvm@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (michael.v.murphy) writes:

>     I recently purchased some land that is in Indiana's one hundred year 
>flood plane. The county in which the land is located has approved the building
>of a residence on the sight with some restrictions (no basement). The land was
>so cheap for this area ($9000 for 5 acres), that I bought it with little
>investigation into the consequences of building in a flood plain. 

Never build on the banks of something called Dry Creek.  How long can you
tread water?

-- 
Marc Kaufman (kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU)

Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: lwlutz@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Lowell W Lutz)
Subject: Re: Rural Life?
Followup-To: lwlutz@mailbox.syr.edu
Summary: question on septic tanks and slow drains
Keywords: septic tanks, slow drains
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 11:23:33 EDT

In article <7945@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>, cohill@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Andrew M. Cohill) writes:
> On the subject of septic tanks, someone recommended pumping it every two
> years.  I believe that is somewhat conservative;  a well-designed drain
> field in good soil may keep the tank flowing for much longer.
> 
> Also, do *not* use harsh chemicals to clean your toilet bowls,
> especially chlorine based products, as it kills the bacteria in your
> septic tank.  
> 
> The absolute worst thing to do is to use those hunks of chemical you
> throw in the commode tank that keep the water clean.  They continuously
> emit bacteria-killing chemicals that can cause your septic system to
> stop working completely.
> 
Maybe y'all can help me. We've had this house for almost a year and have
a problem. It has a septic tank and a well. The problem is a slow drain.
The basement laundry sink, into which the washer drains, drains too slow
causing periodic floods. My wife tried "Drano"type products before I had
a chance to stop her but it did not fix the problem. I have tried to use
a "snake" too. Thought we had it licked, but it flooded again yesterday.
What can I use that won't harm the septic tank but will fix it for good?
Or can I even fix it for good? Any suggestions will be appreciated!

Lowell Lutz, SU, lwlutz@mailbox.syr.edu
From: ag301@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tricia Schmidt)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Rural Life?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 16:22:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Well, it's a long story, but somehow I've ended up in the country
for three months to see if I could stand living this way.  So far
I'm 50/50 on it - and I'm hoping some of the more experienced rural
people can help me out with some problems.

1)  There are no city services - which means that no nice people 
come out here and pick up our garbage every week.  I've heard talk
about "compost piles" though.  What is a compost pile?  How do you
make and maintain one?  

2)  There are no city services here - which means our water comes
from a well.  The farm is surrounded by about 60 acres of feed corn,
which is treated with chemicals in the spring.  Is the water safe?
Also, we've got a septic on the other side of the house from the
well.  I've heard about chemicals for it, but am not sure what they
are or how they should be used?

3)  There are no city laws here.  Which means that people can wander
around with guns and shoot small animals.  A few days ago I saw
some hunters walking down the road with dead squirrels.  Since then
I haven't seen our squirrel, George.  Is there anything I can do?

Any help anyone can offer on these questions will be greatly 
appreciated.  The best help would be if about a million or so people
moved in around here and turned it into a city though :)  I never
realized how much I depended on City Services.  One time the well
stopped running, and to my surprise no city services people came
rushing out to help us.  We had to wait until the next day when
the well repair person came.  

Thanks!  

(Next week, questions about the cows )
From: fkittred@spchp11.BBN.COM (Fletcher Kittredge)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: More weed woes
Date: 9 Oct 92 10:38:05
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., 10 Molton Street, Cambridge, MA
	02138
	<1992Oct8.083956.205@cpvax.cpses.tu.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: spchp11.bbn.com
In-reply-to: b_lmcgilve@cpvax.cpses.tu.com's message of 8 Oct 92 08:39:56 CDT

In article <1992Oct8.083956.205@cpvax.cpses.tu.com> b_lmcgilve@cpvax.cpses.tu.com writes:
Path: news.bbn.com!noc.near.net!uunet!cpvax!b_lmcgilve
   From: b_lmcgilve@cpvax.cpses.tu.com
   Newsgroups: misc.rural
   Date: 8 Oct 92 08:39:56 CDT
   References: <1992Oct6.173019.11226@mlfarm.com> <1992Oct7.154848.11595@news.duc.auburn.edu>
   Organization: Texas Utilities, Glen Rose TX 
   Lines: 32

   In article <1992Oct7.154848.11595@news.duc.auburn.edu>, bailebn@mail.auburn.edu (Bliss Bailey) writes:

   While ya'll are at it, what can I do about the poison oak/ivy?  I have a
   creek running through the land so RoundUp or other chemicals is not an option 
   in several places.  Can I burn it off successfully?  I found out the hard way 

It has been said before on this group, but I will say it again: under
no circumstances try to get rid of poison oak/ivy by burning.  The
toxins in poison ivy/oak will become airborne in the smoke and can get
in your lungs.  If this happens, it is a very serious, potentially
fatal, condition.  It happened to my father and he needed to be
hospitalized for a week to recover.


regards,
fletcher
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From: gurley@spectra.com (Jim Gurley)
Subject: Re: Building in a flood plain...
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 14:42:33 GMT

In article <bill.719039684@chaos.cs.umn.edu> bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ( Hari Seldon ... psychohistorian ) writes:
>In <12OCT199216361606@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu> broy@vaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Barbara Roy) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Oct12.183826.21955@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, mvm@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (michael.v.murphy) writes...
>>>     I recently purchased some land that is in Indiana's one hundred year 
>>>flood plane. The county in which the land is located has approved the building
>>> 
>
>>You may have trouble getting insurance for a house built in the flood plain or
>>it may be very expensive.
>
>>If the land regularly floods, your well can be contaminated. 
>
>>I've seen some houses built in floodplains where they've built the cement
>>"basement" above ground and have their living quarters on the floor above. That
>
>one could always look at the way houses are built on the shore of the ocean.
>in va and nc i know the standard method is to build on pilings, with
>a skirt around the pilings. this may be possible in your area also.
>you might want to consider having an above ground water storeage
>tank for those times when the water rises, it'll give you some time
>for the flood to run off before you need to buy bottled.
>
>bill pociengel
>--
>llbi locgeenpi " i'm a little confused right now"

In S. Oregon the rules for building in a flood plain are that the 'living
quarters' have to be at least one foot above 100 flood.  Any lower
structures have to be semi-transparent to flood waters.  That means they
can't offer resistance to the flow.  The way its done around here is to
use 'basements' for regular storage etc, but the walls on the two sides
thru whcih the water wants to flow are actually big swinging doors (hinged
on top).  I was looking at buying some similar property but chickened out,
although there's a zoning based construction deadline looming in February
due to the state land use commission that was the real reason I gave up.  I
never did figure out what was required for septic.
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: eroth@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (elizabeth.s.roth)
Subject: Re: Thistles
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:07:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.202526.28326@samba.oit.unc.edu> london@SunSite.unc.edu (Larry London) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.193335.12874@cbfsb.cb.att.com> eroth@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (elizabeth.s.roth) writes:
>>
>>Per the AG specialist at our local Extension Service, mowing thistles will
>>_NOT_ kill the root.  The root will simply send up a shorter stalk for the
>>next batch of flowers and the leaf base (at ground level) will spread.  
>>To eliminate thistles (which are a BIG problem here in Missouri), you will 
>>have to kill them with some type of herbicide.
>
>Well, mow it down before it goes to seed, plow it under and reseed the field
>with some durable pasture grass! Or don't you think enough of your animals
>and neighbors (and those downstream) to keep from befouling your nest and
>theirs as well?
>If you think it costs you too much to do that then what are you doing
>keeping horses in the first place?
>


Larry,

Why the personal attack?  Do you believe you know me or my methods or my
lifestyle well enough to make such statements?  Are you generally hostile
or just generally rude?


Susan

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From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Aquaculture
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:17:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: Tomobiki.MS-C.719191078.377401575.mrc
Organization: University of Washington
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: "Mike E. Romano" <bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
Mime-Version: 1.0

There is a problem with Asian style fish ponds that may make you think twice
about whether or not you really want one.  They're natural incubators for new
strains of influenza.

It goes like this; it is pretty common to keep both ducks and pigs at a fish
pond.  The pigs eat, among other things, duck manure; and both ducks and pigs
are protein sources for humans.  So far so good.

Unfortunately, as a result of eating the duck manure the pigs are exposed to
avian influenza.  Apparently, through some not-yet-completely understood
processes, the avian influenza and swine influenza viruses combine or mutate
inside the pig and become a new strain.  Humans can't get avian influenza but
they can get swine influenza.

The massive expansion in the number of fish ponds in Asia under UN funding is
postulated as a probable cause of the great number of new strains of influenza
which have emerged in Asia.

I would suggest that if you do have a fish pond, it would be prudent not to
permit your pigs to eat avian manure.  This would hopefully break the cycle.

As I implied, this process hasn't been proven yet, but it's the most plausible
explanation offered to date for the observations.  While we're spending
billions of dollars in the name of prudence with `global warming' (which
remains unproven), it seems reasonable to take a few less costly steps to
prevent your fish pond from being a potential source of a new strain of flu.
Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney)
Subject: Re: Thistles
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:12:21 GMT

I (mdchaney@fractal.ucs.indiana.edu (M Darrin Chaney)) write:
>In response to Frank and Larry, your points are nice and all, IF WE'RE
>TALKING ABOUT CULTIVATED FIELDS.  We're not.  We're talking about a horse
>pasture.

Ah, the old law about how you can't post more than a screen full without
messing up.  I don't know why I put Larry's name up there.  Larry has
nothing to do with this.  Sorry Larry.  As for Frank Knight, it still
stands :)

	Darrin
-- 

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"I want- I need- to live, to see it all..."
From: ben@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Benjamin Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: FREE-ENERGY TECHNOLOGIES For The Farm
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:10:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvra.25260038
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA


Until some folks write in that they've successfully built such devices
and are happily using them, I'll ignore the claims.

In the meantime, I love this guy.  First it was transmutation, and now
it's perpetual motion.  A smile a week.  Who can complain?

Long live alchemy!

---

Ben
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Cresote Source ?
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:18:56 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <92Oct6.124600edt.217@smoke.cs.toronto.edu> enenkel@cs.toronto.edu (Robert Frederick Enenkel) writes:
>bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ( Hari Seldon     psychohistorian ) writes:

>>creosote is considered a carsonogen. 

>Aw, it's not that bad.  Just don't get it on your skin or breathe the fumes
>in an enclosed place.  It smells kinda nice in low concentrations.  Apparently
>they use it in certain cough drops (no wonder they taste so gross...)

    "In laboratory animals, creosote causes skin irritations, cancer,
    and genetic damage; in humans, it has been linked to skin cancer
    and causes eye and skin irritations, dermatitis, and burns.  It
    remains potent for years, moving easily through the wood to affect
    the soil - and the skin and lungs of anyone who touches it or breathes
    its vapours

    "In the United States, the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
    controls the use of both PCP (Pentachlorophenol aka Pentox) and
    creosote, and recommends sealing wood contaminated by these preservatives
    with two coats of urethane, shellac or latex epoxy enamel."

    "Home Playgrounds", Merilyn Mohr, Harrowsmith, p 91.

>>thats your groundwater that could get wasted. do you really, really 
>>want to do this????????

>Now that could be a problem.  But wouldn't you have to spill quite a bit
>on the ground for that to happen?  Or would the rain runoff from a creosote-
>treated fence be enough?

Yup.  See above.  Soil around the base of creosote treated hydro poles is
also considered toxic waste.
-- 
Chris Lewis; clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca; Phone: Canada 613 832-0541
Psroff 3.0 info: psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Ferret list: ferret-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
From: mm884030@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Marek Marasch)
Newsgroups: misc.wanted
Subject: Wanted:  720k 3.5" drive
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:54:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College


	Wanted:  Low density (720kb) 3.5" disk drive.  Of course for
	an IBM compatible.  I am willing to pay shipping.

	Preferably white, but that's not important.

	Thanks

	Marek

	mm884030@longs.lance.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: misc.wanted
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: TOY WANTED: VERDIBIRD (SP?)
Followup-To: misc.wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:48:42 GMT

I am on a *desperate* search for a toy called a Verdibird.  I know they
were popular when I was a kid (I'm 28 now).  They're this hellicopter that
flies circles around a base as you control its speed and direction.  The 
helicopter has a hook on the bottom and the set comes with different things

for the "verdibird" to pick up with that hook.  I am willing to do just
about
anything to get my hands on one of these toys !!!  Please send any info you

might have about the old Verdibird or perhaps a modern equivalent.

Thanks in advance for any help !!

Kathy
-------------------
Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs
Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"
Newsgroups: misc.wanted,misc.forsale.computers,comp.os.os2.apps
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Subject: HyperAccess/5 wanted
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:18:06 GMT

Hello.

If you are selling a new or used copy of HyperAccess/5 please reply.

Thanks.\
From: ejbst4+@pitt.edu (Ethan J Benatan)
Newsgroups: misc.wanted
Subject: --> OLD TOYOTA - for the BODY ONLY  <--
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:54:22 GMT
Distribution: misc.wanted
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I trashed my wonderful old '78 Corolla; the engine and transmission are
first rate but the body is shot.  I could sell the engine etc or
get a decent body to put it in.  Give me a call if you blew up your
engine.

My engine is a 1600 2TC. 

	Ethan Benatan
	ejbst4+@pitt.edu or
	benatan@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: misc.wanted,boulder.general,alt.guitar,co.general
From: lindaj@solbourne.com (Linda Weygant)
Subject: Guitar Player Wanted
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Distribution: co
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:27:39 GMT

	High energy rock-n-roll band looking for guitarist.  Band practices
	in Longmont twice a week.  Looking to work by New Year's.  Covers
	and originals.  For more info or to schedule an audition e-mail
        lindaj@solbourne.com or call 678-7432 and leave a message.

Newsgroups: misc.wanted
From: roman.yarish@rose.com (roman yarish)
Subject: AutoCAD sale/trade
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Distribution: misc
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:03:13 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 10-15-92 21:57

AutoCad Rel. 12 (brand new in box)  $2000 or b/o 
I will consider any partial trades.

Things I'm looking for:
  SCSI H.D.
  adaptec 1542b
  CD-ROM SCSI ext or int
  1.2, 1.44 floppy drives
  486dx-33 chip only
  multi-sync type monitor 14-19"
  14.4k or faster modem
  simms 1m or 4m (70ns or faster)

  electronic test equip. (spectrum anylizer, storage scope...)
 
  4 wheel motorcycle for kids (small engine - 80cc?)

reply here or
Internet:  roman.yarish@rose.com
Compuserve: 73020,204
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From: 91babik@gw.wmich.edu (Lisamarie Gemma Babik)
Newsgroups: misc.wanted
Subject: WANTED: Heraldic Clip Art (Macintosh)
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:08:42 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I am looking for clipart images of common heraldry symbols.  I am planning 
on using these on a macintosh.

If you have any information, please e-mail me!

Thanks,
  Lisamarie Babik

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Newsgroups: misc.wanted,cu.general,cu-den.general,boulder.general,co.general
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Re: WANTED LASER WRITER...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: co
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:33:42 GMT

In article <Bvnvv6.Fuo@csn.org> adv@teal.csn.org (Herb Fobes) writes:
>         APPLE LASER PRINTER WANTED
>         APPLE LASER PRINTER WANTED
>         APPLE LASER PRINTER WANTED
>         APPLE LASER PRINTER WANTED
>         APPLE LASER PRINTER WANTED
>         APPLE LASER PRINTER WANTED
>
>
>        to use with a Apple Mac IICX
>
>If you have one and would like to get rid of it...
>
>         Call Herb at (303) 651-2174
>
>or eMail Herb the details at adv@cricketusa.com
>
>
>Thanks much.
>
>



Would you get to the *point* Herb!?


;-)


-- 
David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
From: bagwill@swe.ncsl.nist.gov (Bob Bagwill)
Newsgroups: misc.wanted
Subject: worldmap with closed path political boundaries in postscript
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:53:27 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I would like a postscript map with countries made of closed fillable
polylines. The Usenet maps won't do. Thanks.

--
Bob Bagwill
bagwill@swe.ncsl.nist.gov
From: mjp3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MARGARET J. PETROVICH)
Newsgroups: misc.wanted
Subject: PENN STATE VS. NOTRE DAME TICKETS
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:42:56 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I NEED TWO TICKETS FOR PENN STATE/NOTRE DAME.  IF YOU HAVE TWO TICKETS YOU
WON'T BE USING AND WANT TO NEGOTIATE PLEASE RESPOND HERE.  THANKS IN ADVANCE!!

MARGARET J. PETROVICH
From: ai26500@dcl-nextsc.cso.uiuc.edu (Asanee H. Isarowong)
Newsgroups: misc.wanted
Subject: Motorola 68000 Assembly book
Keywords: Motorola 68000 series
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:37:04 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Hi,
	I'm a student in CS/Engineering and I'm taking a class on   
Assembly programing. we're working on the SparcII stations but using
Motorola 68000 Assembly.  There isn't any good book here on campus..so if  
anyone has one or two they want to get rid of...please let me know
thanks much
asanee
Newsgroups: misc.wanted
From: mattw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Ward)
Subject: Canon lens book and filter wanted.
Summary: Wanted, "Lens World" and filter for 300mm lens.
Keywords: canon 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:27:54 GMT

Wanted: A book published by Canon, maybe titled "Lens World",
that details all Canon FD lenses. 

I am also in need of an in-barrel polarizer for a Canon 300mm
f/4.0 FD lens.  Thanks in advance.


-- 
			Matt Ward
			mattw@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
			University of Illinios
			Department of CCSO
Newsgroups: misc.wanted
From: jim@sun0.elon.edu (Jim Murphy)
Subject: If mail-present then ...
Organization: Elon College, Elon College North Carolina
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:54:38 GMT

Need a way to check mail in .login of sun sparc and perform
action if mail is present. Thanks for any suggestions....

-- 
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Voice : 919-584-2290	 	Department of Computing Sciences	
e-mail: jim@sun0.elon.edu	Elon College
e-mail: murphy@vax1.elon.edu	Elon College, NC 27244
Newsgroups: misc.wanted,misc.forsale.wanted
From: dont@klic.rain.com (Don taylor)
Subject: Wanted: Curta Mechanical Calculator
Organization: KLIC
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:18:37 GMT

I have posted once or twice before with one near miss.

Looking to buy a Curta mechanical calculator.  It was advertised in the back
of Scientific American every month until the "4 banger" calculators appeared.
Surveyors used to use them, Rally race drivers used to use them, GSA employees
used to use them.

Please reply by email.

Thanks
Don Taylor
503-235-6853
dont@klic.rain.com
qiclab!loop!dont