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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:33:34 EST
From: MIKE ADAMS    <WFP101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Infinity War Catch Up

Still looking for the chronology of the Infinity War and its crossovers.
For those *few* who replied, I little mail glitch nuked your e-mail (a one
in a million bug), could you re-send  *please* ?


          Mike
          WFP101@psuvm.psu.edu
Organization: Senior, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:14:19 -0500 
From: "Pamela J. Bernhardt" <pb2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Sandman -- Brief Lives 7
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My two cents.

1) Didn't Dream kill off destruction in A Dolls House?  He unmade the
guy!  And even if he remade him, I don't think that he'd be fool enough
to make him that horrible. 

2) Why didn't Delirium go and ask Orpheus?  She is his aunt, and it
would have saved Dream from doing it.  

Also I really liked when dream said that ending the journey wasn't an
option, the panel showed delirium.

Pam

"It is ... Refreshing to see you so collected."
"Stick it"
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:51:41 EST
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Awards: still a few votes short

 How about :

     Favorite 40th Birthday Issue
     Worst Conclusion to a Six-Part Series
     Cheesiest Continuity Award
     Worst Spelling
     Consistently Worst Spelling
     Worst Plot Device Involving Artoo-Detoo
     Best Attempt to Copy Frank Miller
     The Weasel Award
     Most Net Posts by an Established Comic Writer
     Most Pathetic Attempt to Capitalize off of Kricfalusi's Work
     Best Use of a Gorilla
     Favorite Elf-With-Attitude
     Character with Biggest Guns
     Character with Biggest Gums
     Best Money-Grubbing Attempt ( also known as the
                                   "We Know He's Not Dead" award )
     Best Haircut
     Worst Distortion of the Human Anatomy
     Most Cajuns in an Ongoing Series
     Most Obnoxious Amount of Different Covers for a Single Issue

   Just my $0.02.
From: royd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Roy Daniel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: who's Funnier
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:31:29 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

THE TICK RULES!  SPOOOONNN!!!!

But of course, you knew that already.


-- 
Daniel Roy, of the "Voyageurs sans Permis"			CARPE DIEM!!

"A man's science is another man's magic; 
 for all I know, Merlin was a physicist."
From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Colors in JLA #72
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:34:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.C1GzDt.9wJ
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

lawrence@ctron.com (Gary S. St. Lawrence) writes:

>I have to agree that the story is a dreamscape created by Dr. Destiny.
>But I have a theory about it as well.

>What are the odds that DC (and Jurgens) are showing us what the JLA would
>be like without the positive "boyscout" influence of .... Superman?
>The story is either post-superdeath or Superman is just not around in this
>bit of action in Dr. Destiny's mind. Is there some lesson we're supposed
>to learn from this? That perhaps Superman is the "goodness regulator"
>for all DC superheroes?

I like this idea.  It would be about the nicest tribute to Supes
possible, IMHO.  Kind of "It's a Super, Wonderful Life" except that
Doctor Destiny (who seems to be showing us what the world would
be like without Superman) is no angel :-).

>And just why would The Martian Manhunter feel the need to point out that 
>he's "even more powerful than Superman"? Modesty has ever been J'onn's
>strong point, almost to a fault.

I wish GL would have been a little more concerned about Star Sapphire's
death.  I had no idea that The Martian Manhunter's vision power was
this strong.  Is this consistent with past appearances?

Tom
From: mjo@iao.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Bring back Superboy (was: IS Superman dead?)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:48:01 GMT
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In article <C1JFEy.6CG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(William Shakespeare) writes:

:I think they should bring back Superman, unchanged (no grim 'n' gritty) AND
:create a new Superboy character contemporary with the adult superman.  I
:don't mean a Kryptonian or Daxamite, but just a metahuman kid with powers
:similar (although inferior to) Supes'.  Superboy would not have to be white,

...

:Sort of like Black Panther or the Falcon, but without the disease of constantly
:being Captain America (... and Black Panther) or the Avengers (... including
:Black Falcon).

And probably around the same power level too.  Superman should be a
powerful force in the DC universe when he's living.

						...Mike

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From: danl@next11pg2.wam.umd.edu (Neurotic Bob)
Subject: Sandman: Destruction & Barnabas
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:36:31 GMT

Okay, it's probably just me, but every single time I see these two pop up  
in an issue, I think they are the characters Satan and Beelzebub in Steven  
Brust's _To Reign in Hell_.  (I have plenty of time to forget who they  
really are in the month between issues.)  It just so happens that D & B  
are portrayed in a similar fashion to the way I pictured S & B.

It probably doesn't mean much of anything, except to give that old "man's  
best friend" adage a supernatural basis.

For anyone who has not read _To Reign in Hell_, I recommend it.  I  
certainly found it more enjoyable than the present "Brief Lives" story.   
It paces itself better.  (There isn't a month between chapters :) )

		--Dan'L
From: mwhatt01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Some Image Reviews
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:29:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Louisville

>  -  I think the problem with the writing of the Image titles, with exception
>  -  of Savage Dragon and Spawn, is that the writers are trying to present
>  -  the story two quickly.  The plots do tend to be confused, but I like 

> I agree that the Image boys are trying to cram too much story into
> each issue and just end up confusing nearly everyone.  

I also think that creating so many characters adds to the confusion.
That is one reason Spawn and Savage Dragon are easier to read.
I think that they are creating so many characters to make themselves
more important in the Image Universe.  Notice how many Youngblood
references there are each issue.
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From: pautler@ils.nwu.edu (David Pautler)
Subject: Enigma is excellent; Sandman, okay
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:59:03 GMT

Shade hasn't done anything for me in the past, but I had a feeling Enigma
would be good.  It's even better than I expected.  Milligan now stands
shoulder to shoulder with Moore and Gaiman IMO.  The dialogue and seques
are a welcome improvement over other Vertigo titles.  And Fegredo's art
creates a perfect atmosphere -- so darkly real and active.

Because this series has been in preparation for over a year, and it's
limited to 8 issues, you can be sure that each issue is going to be great.
Strongly recommended.

I read Sandman #47 first, and it didn't compare well, unfortunately.  The
dialogue and art both improve to fair in the second half, but the primary
appeal of this issue is the sheer number of glimpses at future storylines.
I think I'm going to have to wait until #50 to get a good Sandman fix again.
Buy it because you have to.

     -dp-
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Subject: Re: who's Funnier
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 06:30:05 GMT

In <1993Jan19.161643.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> mwhatt01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>My friends have been arguing over what is the funniest comic book.
>While I think the Tick is very funny nothing in my opinion beats
>Sam & Max.  So for people who read both, what do you think is funnier.

Of the two (and of late), The Tick.  Sam & Max have gone downhill some.  My
general opinion is the funniest damn book out there is THE EYE OF MONGOMBO,
but since the author hasn't done a new issue in over a year, well...

>"I am reluctant to expose anyone to the full power of my mind"
>                                    -Fred Flintstone

Is that really a Flintstone quote?  If so, kudos to you -- that's really
looks odd in ASCII.

                           DAVE BARRY'S 1992 IN REVIEW -- January 16th
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From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: New releases for January 26, eh?
Keywords: I post fewer and fewer messages, eh?
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 10:18:06 GMT

In article <mumble, eh> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>
>So like here's the list of stuff that one of them wholesalers is planning
>on scorin' us, eh?  So like it's for like today, eh, which is like January
>26, eh?  So like anyone here want a real man's beer?  Didn't think so, eh?

Good day, eh?  Gimme one of those beers, hoser.

>Aardvark-Vamaheim, eh?  So like, pass the back bacon.

Beauty!

[...]

>So like DC eh?
>	Animal Man
>	Black Condor
>	Green Lantern

Ok, but like you forgot the issue number things!

[...]

>	Wizard:  100 Most Collectable Comics
>		(ed note:  How much you wanna bet New Mutants #87
>			   and Bloodshot #1 are here?  Phhhbt.)

Take off!  (But you're probably right.  Sigh.)

So, good day, eh?

-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
Subject: Re: PAD books this week (Hulk, X-Factor)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:47:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.065926.5965@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb):
>>Speaking of psionics, why on earth did Rick call in a psychiatrist
>>to help Marlo? If she's really just in a coma, as he believes, wouldn't
>>a telepath be much, much more effective?
>
>If your lover were acting like a zombie, would you call a doctor or
>a psychic?  Honestly now...
>
>
_IF_ you were the Eternal Sidekick, knowing more superheroes than the 
average X-Man, once co-wielder of the Nega-Bands, had your lover killed 
by a psychotic woman who claimed to be your mother, then had your lover
reanimated by a _psychic_ who claimed to have a direct line with GOD, 
and it WORKED, and saw your best friend go into a murderous rage even after
"cured" by the green haired quack in question, who would YOU call?  This is
Rick Jones, for goodness sakes.  The man who can call the Fantastic Four...
and they'll PICK UP! 
	
	"Psychic Hotline?...No, Mr. Jones, we don't do house calls...Very
well, lean her next to the phone, and I'll read her aura..." 
-- 
I don't mind being the smartest	    / Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Unknown
man in the world...I just wish it   \ Time and Space tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 
wasn't this one...	       	    / It's a Zen thing... 
	-Ozymandias 		    \	 you wouldn't understand...  
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From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: The flip side of the Endless...
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Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:08:46 GMT

In article <edu> jeff@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jeff Williamson) writes:
>
>>Anyone think Death was mortal-walking with Chairman Mao? Or am I
>>just confused?

Uh, It could be that whoever Death spends a day with during her mortal
day dies at the end of that day.  So Sexton might die in issue #3 of
High Cost of Living.    So speculation about who that was with Death
might be irrelevant.   But would you want to be holding hands with
Didi when she 'took on her Aspect.'????

Personally I find that as depressing as speculation that Dream's boon
will be to kill his son.  But it did cross my mind.


By the way, did anyone notice that Dream changed outfits to the one he
was wearing when he last saw his son?   The ruby doesn't exist any
more, but he was wearing something.

later, david
--
David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com
"It's what you learn after you know it all that counts." -- John Wooden
From: chrismg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (christian gadeken)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman Art (Was Re: Vertigo Bomb)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 03:23:52 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
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RE:unfeasability of "Archie" Sandman art and "Watchmen" Sandman art:

	Well, you're probably right about the "Archie" art,
	although I personally think the Sandman can encompass
	*anything*, but I'd love to see Dave Gibbons' version
	of the world of the Endless.  No, it wouldn't be much
	like the art we've had recently, but Sandman artists
	tend not to resemble each other at all.

-- 
			C h r i s t i a n  G a d e k e n

Yakumo: "But I really did destroy a monster in Hong Kong!
Saru  : "Ahem, ahem"
Yakumo: "Saru, do you believe me?"
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From: wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William Shakespeare)
Subject: Re: I miss Krypto the superdog or Damn, that Crisis anyway!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:48:20 GMT

I agree!  Bring back Krypto!  A super man needs a super dog!  Hey, remember
really old LSH stories where every sentence spoken ended with an !  Anyway,
they could create a new Krypto, maybe from a Star Labs experiment, like
grafting the meta-gene into canines or something.  The new Krypto could have
different powers from the old one, maybe.

Or Krypto could be a metahuman who was permanently changed into a dog as a
result of metagene activation.  No, wait, that sounds like Lockjaw.

Anyway, bring back the doggy with the S cape.

-- 
William ("Shakespeare") Gulstad          /  So where are the C.S. babes?
wogg0743@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu                /  Joni Mitchell for President!
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From: lawrence@ctron.com (Gary S. St. Lawrence)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Annotated Future Imperfect (Long)
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:02:03 GMT
Reply-To: lawrence@tw1.samsung.com (Gary S. St. Lawrence)
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.misc.
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

Well, there are two items I'd like to add, but they could be either of
two things:

	The Nega-Bands or Wonder Woman's Bullet-Proof Bracelets (Amazonium?)
	
They're the golden cylinders that the plants are growing out of in the
double-page layout of Rick Jones' tropy room.

PAD? Any confirmation of which they are?

Saint.
From: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Grimjack
Date: 23 Jan 1993 18:50:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Reply-To: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
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ryk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (RAJAN YASH KHANNA) says:

>    Okay, here's the deal. I am a tremendous fan of Grimjack. Ever since

>        like him ? And does anyone know if anything might reappear ? Recently

For Grimjack to come back, someone would have to buy the
 rights off of Frist's bankruptcy lawyers, who are not
 allowing much negotiation on prices.  

BTW, anyone in the Baltimore area who wants to read 
 Grimjack, Perry's Comics in Lexinton Market has lots of
 copies of issues 1-8, in the bargain bin.  Among other
 stuff.  Massive deals.  
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From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Subject: Re: Death #1 comments
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 13:12:56 GMT

In article <C16LzJ.Ew2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>Petri.Wessman@hut.fi (Petri Wessman) writes:
>
>>On Wed, 20 Jan 1993 07:31:32 GMT, dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) said:
>
>>Dani> (If you were the greatest of the Fallen, and you could go anywhere
>>Dani> in the multiverse, barring the Silver City, and Earth weren't the
>>Dani> center of creation, would you retire to Australia?)
>
>>I might. They have fantastic beer :-)
>
>Yeah, but they also have marmite.

Funny, I always thought that was one of our (Britain's) glorious exports...
like Imperialism and concentration camps, although not quite on the same
scale of unpleasantness...

Mike

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From: rfischer@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Russell Fischer)
Subject: Re: Enigma is excellent; Sandman, okay
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:25:25 GMT

pautler@ils.nwu.edu (David Pautler) writes:

>I read Sandman #47 first, and it didn't compare well, unfortunately.  The
>dialogue and art both improve to fair in the second half, but the primary
>appeal of this issue is the sheer number of glimpses at future storylines.
>I think I'm going to have to wait until #50 to get a good Sandman fix again.
>Buy it because you have to.

>     -dp-

i don't completely agree, but i did have one complaint about sandman
#47. in the sequence where del really gains some control over herself,
morpheus points out that her eyes are the same color. of course, in
the previous panel, they're not. daniel vozzo needs to get it together
with respect to details such as that. perhaps it is not his fault.
anyway...

my greatest complaint this week was with hellblazer. i find a year's
worth of this title to run the gamut from wonderful to useless. this
was, imho, the second completely useless issue that garth ennis has
penned. (the first being his last 'party' issue, introducing the
spirit of the dance.) i really don't need to see a large portion of an
issue dedicated to the joint-making prowess (or lack thereof) of
constantine and others. too bad that ennis picked this month to spawn
this on his readers--people who picked up the book through the vertigo
imprint will doubtless be unimpressed.

russ fischer
From: leekil@bbn.com (Lee Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Annotation 40
Date: 25 Jan 1993 05:18:30 GMT
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conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:

>In article <C16IKn.DEJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>> mkelly@dumpster.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly) writes:
>> > sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin) writes:
>> >|>
>> >|> MAIDEN -- The first Eve (The nameless)
>> 
>> >Nope. Nameless "died" in Metal Men.
>> 
>> Mike, you've completely confused me, you know that?

>He's making a comics otaku joke.  "Nameless" was a late addition to the
                      ^^^^^
	Where'd you get this? From "Wired", or is it more well known?
And why didn't you use an English equivalent, like "nerd" or
"fanboy"?



	Lee
From: rlcarr@animato.network23.com (Rich Carreiro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: PAD books this week (Hulk, X-Factor)
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:57:52 EST
Organization: The Other Side of Life

In article <74259@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
> The Juggernaut's helmet is indeed "magic" in that it protects him from
> any *psionic* attack.  That goes all the way back to his first appearance,
> when they finally managed to stop him by Spider-Man teaming with the X-Men
> to help rip his helmet off, at which point Prof. X put him down for the
> count with a mental blast.

Not any more...

In Excalibur #3, Rachel takes Juggie down with a mental blast.
Of course, she WAS (is?) Phoenix, and so was quite a bit higher
up the power scale than Xavier.

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From: mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: A couple didjanotices . . .
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:32:56 GMT
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In article <1993Jan22.222645.14049@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> manley@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Skybax Rider, Apprentice Class) writes:
>
>  1) Did anyone else find it significant that Delerium is now pale white
>     like Dream, Death and the twins?
>
I wouldn't read too much into it - the colouring in Sandman seems to be too
inconsistent to try and get any significance out of it. Look at the various
ways Death's skin has been coloured - according to Gaiman, she *should* be
the pale flesh colour she is in her first appearance (Sandman 8) - "She's
just fairly pale, she doesn't tan." (from an interview in the latest Comic
World). And do I need to mention Del's eyes?

Mike
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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: So what is this Mercy thing?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:14:44 GMT



I was just flipping through the Vertigo preview, which I hadn't really looked
at before because I bought it only for the Sandman story, and I saw the Mercy
preview.  It looked interesting.  Anyone know anything about it?


Firestar
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