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From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Subject: Re: Question on Yosemite National Park (Camping)
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:30:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.214614.128461@cs.cmu.edu>, jennie+@cs.cmu.edu (Jennifer Kay) writes:
> So can anyone give more details on how early you have to get to the first
> come first served camp grounds to camp there? 

That would be the Sunnyside campground, the Haight-Ashbury of
Yosemite Valley campgrounds.

The deal is that instead of one party per site, it's a maximum of
six people per site, with parties free to move into an occupied site
until the limit of 6 people is reached.  There are a couple of 
sites marked reserved for the mountain rescue folks -- don't even
think of camping there.  It's largely a matter of luck arriving when a 
site opens up.  

Don't be too dismayed at having to settle for an out-of-valley campsite.
The valley campsites are very noisy and lacking in privacy.

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John Reece		
Not an Intel spokesman  
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: lmurphy@unlinfo.unl.edu (linda murphy)
Subject: Need AMTRAK Info - DC to New Haven
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:13:48 GMT

I am a frequent flier but have never experienced travel via train.  My
daughter and I will be in Washington, DC in mid-August for a 
conference.  Then, we plan to rent a car and spend a few days in 
southern Virginia before heading for Connecticut.  I detest driving 
through NY and this seems the perfect time to try the train.  Amtrak 
has provided schedules and fares for straight-through trains from 
Wash. DC to New Haven and vice versa.  However, I hope someone can 
provide some additional information so we will be informed travelers:

1.  Should we purchase train tickets now or can we safely still get 
them closer to the time (when we know which day we'll want to go)?

2.  Is it difficult to return a rental car in the Union Station area? 
Is one car rental company better than another for this?  Any better 
suggestions?

3.  Will we be able to sleep on the train?  The trip is about 6 hours.
 From New Haven to DC we will be travelling from 9:15 pm to 2:55 a.m. 
Is this safe?

4.  What about luggage?  I hate to be totally naive, but does one 
check luggage for a train trip or carry it on and stow it at their 
seat?  My daughter is in college and travels with LOTS of luggage.  If
porters or whatever they are called for trains offer to carry our 
luggage, what do we tip them?

5.  Any other advice on what we should watch for or avoid?
 
Please respond via e-mail.  If anyone else is as rail-travel-knowledge
impaired as I am, I would be happy to pass on any useful info I 
receive.  Thanks.

Linda Murphy
lmurphy@unlinfo.unl.edu




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From: holbrook@apollo.HP.COM (Alan R. Holbrook)
Subject: Montreal (CA) Hotel Recommendations Sought
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:30:07 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA


My family will be spending a few days in Montreal late in August and
we are looking for some recommendations for hotels.  Our needs/wants
are:

        o   either downtown or suburbs, but within walking distance
            of subway,
        o   on-site parking,
        o   a pool (or the kids won't go.  Hmmmm...),
        o   around $80USD a night, inclusive of parking.

Recommendations appreciated.

Alan Holbrook
holbrook@apollo.hp.com
No .sig, I just post on impulse.
From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: What to do in Boulder, CO area?
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:57:54 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>I'll be in Boulder, CO over the Aug 1 weekend. Any suggestions for
>activities (I plan to drive a little bit around); anything special going on
>during that weekend? Pointers to restaurants/clubs/hotels would also be
>appreciated.

There are a couple of blocks in Boulder that have been blocked off and called
a "street mall" or such -- there are a variety of stores there to occupy
one's time, although most of them don't seem to want one's business very much,
since they almost all close by 5:30pm.  There are a couple of good Thai
restaurants in town, one of them near said mall, and another off somewhere
else -- I think one's called "Thai Plate".

Rocky Mountain National Park is just to the west of Boulder.  I went through
and saw lots of mountain goats and elk.
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From: janet@cs.UAlberta.CA (Janet Service)
Subject: car hire
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: w
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:54:15 GMT

I am going home to England for Christmas and I would like to hire a car.

Is there anyone in the Rotherham / Sheffield / South Yorkshire area
out there, that could give me the phone numbers of car hire firms
that have reasonable rates?

I am going from December 11 - January 10.

Thanks for any help.

Janet
From: ark0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ALICE R. KIMBLE)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Kentucky Derby info
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:47:55 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


I would really love to attend the Kentucky Derby next year. I have been to the
other two legs of the triple crown and never this one.

I need to know how to get tickets for the race and any information about good
hotels to stay in the area and other things to do down there. I have never
been in that part of the country.......looks like it it gorgeous.

Any information would be greatly appreciated/

Thanks.

Alice
From: ohl@dk-vs.UUCP (Ralf Ohlhausen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Trans-Siberian Railway, cheap tickets?
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:50:13 GMT
Organization: Digital-Kienzle Computersyst.  7730 Villingen/Germany


Steve_Lammert@transarc.com writes:

 >sveini@mack.uit.no (Svein-Ivar Lillehaug) writes:
 >> Where in Europe is it possible to buy the cheapest tickets to the
 >> Trans-Siberian-Railway from Moscow to Bejing?

 >A warning about the Trans-Siberian Railway:

 >She reports that crime is rampant on trains traveling in the
 >Russia/Mongolia and Mongolia/China frontier regions.  By "crime" she
 >refers to muggings, armed robbery, and murder (as opposed to
 >pickpockets and the like) -- resulting, claim the local papers, from
 >the collapse of the Russian and Mongolian currencies during the past
 >year.

There was a report on TV a couple of weeks ago. The trains from Bejing
to Moscow are crowded with Chinese people selling clothes and shoes
on every train station all the way to Moscow. They make big earnings
on this, so they usually fly back. There should be no problem with this
in the direction you want to go. Although the deals within the Chinese
and the Russians aren't very polite, they didn't mention any severe
problems like robbery or murder. However, it didn't look very comfortable!

When I have been there in 1984 it was a very nice, comfortable trip and
the cheapest tickets were sold in Hungary or equally in the Hungarian
travel agencies in Germany. This was due to the 3 times better currency
exchange rate compared to other Eastern European countries. Probably
this changed but I don't know.

Ralf
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From: banta@blagg.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Cryin' baby express ... what to do?
Date: 21 Jul 1992 06:49:10 GMT
Organization: Sun, Moon, and Stars
NNTP-Posting-Host: blagg

(Henry "Interior Degenerate" Mensch) writes:
>i guess this means that families with more than two children must
>check (N-2) children in the cargo hold?
># henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>

I guess I should have known it would only be a matter of time before
Henry found his way to alt.peeves.  In what appears to be a
name-shortening convention, let's give him a hardy "Welcome, Hank!"

Henry's position doesn't surprise me at all, but lest he jump on the
bandwagon decrying second-hand personal intrusions, I have a trump
card.  This is the same person who once recommended the Purdue
University Computing Center install mauve carpet and cubie
upholstery.  For the sweating belly of Buddha, MAUVE!  If that
wouldn't encroach on the personal state-of-mind of others, I don't
know what would.

Don't try to deny it, pretty boy.  I have the archives.

andy
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
"I'll perfrom any perverse sexual act on any member of phylum
chordata.  I don't do invertebrates."  - JZ
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Hotels London/Amsterdam
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:55:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.215349.10723@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> laura@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Laura M. Edwards) writes:
>In article <18438@drutx.ATT.COM> max@drutx!att.com writes:
>-
>-   *  reasonably priced: $60-$100.
>-   *  Centrally located
>-   *  private room with private bath
>-   *  clean and comfortable
>-
>I would like to second this request.  We will be in London Sept 6
>through Sept 9, and would like a reasonably cheap hotel/bed and breakfast
>somewhere towards the East End, near a tube.

Try "Cheap Sleeps in London", which ought to be available at any
good-sized bookstore.  Be prepared to pay more than you think is
"reasonably cheap" for a private bath, though; do you really need one?
And sometimes the definition of "private bath" is a shower stall right
there in your room.  You still have to go down the hall to the loo.

Charleen
--
I was going to commit suicide the other day, but I must not have been
serious because I brought a beach towel.   -- Steven Wright
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From: anton@gomez.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Anton Zavriyev)
Subject: Overnight in London
Organization: University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:47:42 GMT



Hi folks!

In September I'll be in London for ~ 14hrs (20:00 to 10:00 next morning).  I
have never been there before.  Thus, the following ?'s:


1.   What should I see?
2.   How can I get there from the H-w airport?
3.   Where can I find an inexpensive overnight accomodations?
4.   Is it a good idea to just hit the streets, and then come back to the
     airport and spend the night there?
5.   What kind of weather should one expect in the end of September in London?


Please, reply to me directly (otherwise, I am likely to miss your reply).

			Thank you in advance,
					Anton
From: gessner@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Gessner)
Subject: Dominican Republic
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Hughes STX
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:52:00 GMT


  Could someone tell me the differences between the north and south coasts of
the Dominican Republic? Can it be compared to any other island in the
Caribbean? Any recommendations for a smaller size hotel that is 'native' yet
comfortable would be appreciated.

Thanks!
Susan 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Lockers at Heathrow?
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:32:02 GMT

morton@ceres.fccc.edu (Dan Morton) wrote: 
->Before I spend a business week in Geneva, I'm spending
->a vacation week in the north of England.  Don't need
->my duds 'til Geneva; I'd like to lighten my load.  Are
->there safe, inexpensive lockers at Heathrow that I
->can store a garment bag for a week?  Would you trust
->it?

no luggage lockers; they often go


                            .
                          .    *   . ~
                          ~\ x | . /x
                       ~ -  BOOOM!! - .
                        %  / . |   \+
                          .    @   .  ~


but there is a left luggage facility at heathrow which charges about
UKP2/day/bag.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: spanga@yocomputo (Span Grad Asst)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Florida SeaEscape Boat Trips
Date: 22 Jul 1992 21:45:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: yocomputo.berkeley.edu

Several years ago I took Florida SeaEscape from Miami to
Freeport and back.  It certainly is no substitute for a "real
cruise" with elegant table buffets, etc.  But fun for a day's
trip.  Crowd seems to be mainly "Spring Break" 20 somethings as
well as tourists from the Midwest.  I seem to remember being in
Freeport a grand total of 3 hours ( enough time to lie in the
beach for 1 hour and then go to the casino).  Nassau seems to
have more to offer in terms of shopping, restaurants, etc. than
Freeport.  I believe the cost of the trip is $99.00

Dan Landis  spanga@athena.berkeley.edu
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From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Best cajun food in New Orleans?
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:26:01 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii

In article <STEVES.92Jul15131338@kuwait.gdfwc3> steves@gdfwc3 (Steve Strauss) writes:
>In article <15437@star.cs.vu.nl> amorsin@cs.vu.nl (A. W. Morsink) writes:
>
>>   If anyone could tell me where to get the best cajun food in New Orleans,
>>   I'd be eternally gratefull... (although, that's kind of a long time, make
>>   that till next week :))
>
>Try Copeland's, Ralph & Kacoo's, West End Cafe, R & O, Deanie's,
>Carmine's.  If I think of any others, I'll let you know.

A second vote for R&O's! They're a real down-home diner kind of place,
a bit out of the French Quarter area, but most definitely worth the
trip. Their muffallatas and po boys are out of this world! :)

--
A. Lani Teshima, UH School of Library & Info Studies   o | /_/_/ "Sea Hare"
A small mind is easily filled with faith.               o|<0_0>--------*
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teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu                                 \_}B   \_}B
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: todds@Newbridge.COM (Todd Sandor)
Subject: International Camping Carnet Question (what/where/needed?)
Organization: Newbridge Networks Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:51:42 GMT

Can anyone give me information on what an International Camping Carnet 
is and if it is a good thing to have?  [I going on a bike/camping tour of 
Greece (Peloponissos, Crete and the islands)]...

Also, where in Canada can you get one?

thanks...
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todds@newbridge.com
From: vandenbe@eris.cs.umass.edu (Scott L. Vandenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: AE Continental Coupon on US AIR (summary)
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:46:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UMass-Amherst Computer Science

In article <1992Jul23.222108.1809@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, mingy@gnu.ecn.purdue.edu (Minerva Ming-Yee Yeung) writes:
|> From brandt@cs.unc.edu Thu Jul 23 09:27:48 1992
|> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:12:01 -0400
|> From: Andrew Brandt <brandt@cs.unc.edu>
|> Message-Id: <9207231412.AA13424@currituck.cs.unc.edu>
|> To: mingy@gnu.ecn.purdue.edu (Minerva Ming-Yee Yeung)
|> Subject: Re: AE Continental Coupon using on US Air
|> Status: OR
|> 
|> 
|> I can assure that USAir accepts it.  Just call them at 1-800-428-4322.
|> They know about and will honor it.  I used it, it's great!

This is not really correct.  There are at least 2 varieties of these
AMEX Continental coupons, one for use during the summer months (costs
more) and one for use at other times of the year.  The summer travel
certificates ARE NOT ACCEPTED by USAir -- I tried to use one recently.
They did, however, accept the non-summer certificates I used earlier
in the year.  I don't know if they will resume accepting the non-summer
certificates after summer ends.

@             Scott L. Vandenberg (vandenbe@cs.umass.edu)            @
@   University of Massachusetts-Amherst Computer Science Department  @
@ Lederle Graduate Research Center, Amherst, MA 01003  (413)545-3279 @
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: goit724@chpc.utexas.edu ((user name unknown))
Subject: Wanted 2 tickets Austin - NY - Austin for August
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 22:43:27 GMT

Hi, I'm after 2 or 3 each-way tickets from Austin/Dallas/Houston to
the New York area (i.e JFK, La Guardia). I prefer Austin 
since I'll have to add the cost of getting to HOU or DFW onto the
cost of the tickets. 

Please reply to   mike@utig.ig.utexas.edu

Thanks in advance 

Mike Jervis.
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From: ubacw00@ucl.ac.uk (Mick Farmer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,bit.listserv.travel-l,soc.culture.spain
Subject: Altamira Caves
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:07:21 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

Hi,

We're touring northern Spain this August and would like to
visit the Altamira caves in Cantabria.  Apparently it's very
difficult to gain admission.  Does anyone know what we can
do to try and visit the caves.

Regards,

Mick
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: wendy@sq.sq.com (Wendy Harrison)
Subject: Re: Young homeless in Canada?
Keywords: Canada Toronto Montreal homeless
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:35:58 GMT

In article <Bs28uI.IE3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> hausman@caffeine.cen.uiuc.edu (Kevin Hausman) writes:
>
>In both Toronto and Montreal, we were accosted by lots of young 'homeless'
>people on the street asking for money.  These people, both men and women
>(or should I say, boys and girls...) seemed to be about 18-21 years old.
>The particular streets were Yonge (in Toronto) and St. Catherine (Montreal).

I don't have the definitive answer to your question, but from what
I have gathered from the press on this subject, most of these kids
are runaways, and most runaways come from dysfunctional families,
i.e., they have been abused, a parent is alcoholic, etc.
They end up on the street, sometimes on drugs, sometimes into
prostitution, sometimes just drifting and begging.

I'm sure you would find the same thing in big cities in the U.S. as well.

Wendy Harrison
wendy@sq.com
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From: jjones@chopin.udel.edu (James A Jones)
Subject: Re: InterRail - 5 nations exit
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:51:12 GMT

I just got back from Portugal and I know that Spain was charging InteRail
passengers 5000 pesetas if they stopped over in Spain.  I met dozens
of people who had ridden straight through to Portugal in order to avoid
the fee.
-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
Flat flip flies straight . . .      jjones@udel.edu   (call me "Jim")
From: STU@mwvm.mitre.org
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: flying with a bike
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:17:46 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102

We take our Dehon (sic?) folding bicycles on sailing trips and are not
charged for the privilege.  The fold into standard size suitcase-type
bags and ship as regular luggage.
 
If you travel enough, they are worth the $$.  Boat US sells them in two
sizes - the 16" is to small for road use - but the 20" is a capable, full
size 6 speed bicycle with good hardware, comfortable seat and good handle
bars - not up to racing, but sufficient for 10 miles or so on the road with
good comfort.  It comes with a rack that will hold a reasonable amount of
supplies - so we provision by bicycle.
 
Unfortunately, the quality control on Dehons is terrible!  One came without
a seat!, and the other came with an extra ball bearing in the race on the
handle bars.  Boat US, however, shipped us a seat (I think on of their
staff from another store delivered it - directly to the marine the night
before our last trip), and a friendly bicycle shop rebuilt the steering at
no charge.
 
Beats the hassle of shipping - and they go in a cab trunk just fine.
 
/Stu
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Black Death?? Lake Tahoe??
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:32:50 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <1992Jul29.140108.7884@vax.oxford.ac.uk> daveh@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

>> that there has been an outbreak of the "Black Death" at Lake Tahoe.
>> Does anyone know anything about this? Does anyone know if there is any
>> reason to be worried about visiting Yosemite?
>> 
>The number of people actually infected by plague is very low. You've got a much
>greater chance of being killed in an auto accident!!

Also, I *think* bubonic plague isn't usually fatal these days! There was an
outbreak a while back, and most of the victimes recovered. I got the idea
it's sort of like dystentery: serious, but with hospitalization,
iv fluids, and other intense treatment for the symptoms, most victims
recover. In the Middle Ages, the plague killed everyone because there
were no effective treatments. 
  Anyone here with the medical scoop?

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From: lzs@indetech.com ()
Subject: Italy in Nov/Dec. Info Wanted
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:19:37 GMT

My husband and I are planning to visit Italy for about 3 weeks
in November and December of this year. 

We have never been there before.

We have been looking at some tour books, and have decided
that we would like to hit mostly the lesser-known towns,
spending minimal time in large cities like Rome or Milan.

We are just beginning to work out an itinerary, but we'd
like to hear some experiences from people who have visited
Italy in the recent past. 

Also, will the winter temperatures limit our sightseeing
any (e.g., no gondolas running in Venice, etc)?

We want to see Italy from one end to the other; really
get to know it! We also plan to take trains and busses
as much as possible, and stay at moderate-priced
hotels (maybe splurging one or two nights on a nicer
place). One thing that also really interests us is the 
FOOD. We love good Italian food, so if you have any
hints in this department, please let us know!

Please email me with your comments.

Thanks a lot in advance!

Lynn (lzs@indetech.com)


-- 
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{sun,sharkey,pacbell}!indetech!lzs
Fremont, CA
 
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.spain
From: rbairos@cayley.waterloo.edu (Rob Bairos)
Subject: Expo 92 in Seville Spain
Keywords: request for info
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:15:41 GMT

A friend and I are leaving Toronto to go to Spain during the last two
weeks in August.  We will be visiting Paris, Madrid and Seville.  I would
appreciate it if anyone who has been to Expo or heard any reviews about Expo
could E-mail me or post information about it.  We are interseted in hearing
anything at all  about which pavilions are good to see, what to do and not
to do, anything to watch out for, in other words, anything at all that relates
to Expo.
Thanx for your time
rbairos@cayley.waterloo.edu