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From: knobi@knobi.munich.sgi.com (Martin Knoblauch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: New SGI GREENIE, was: Frustrated with SGI support..
Date: 5 Jan 93 08:07:00 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: knobi.munich.sgi.com

In article <ADH030D@nextcube.in-berlin.de>, ag@nextcube.in-berlin.de
(Andreas Gradert) writes:
|> olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson) writes:
|> 
|> > In fact, management at SGI encourages us to answer questions on
|> the
|> > net (except when we get carried away about leaking unannounced
|> > product info!), even if our responses are sometimes negative about
|> > some aspect of the company.
|> 
|> OK. We won't tell anybody, but what about the new double processored
|> R4400
|> handheld with inflateable (sp?) 21" (1664*1440, 16.7Mio Colors)
|> display and
|> virtual disks & memory. 
|> 
|> Is it true, that it will be the Iris GREENIE? When will the GREENIE
|> be 
|> delivered? Any upgrades to GREENIE VGXT? And the pricing? I heard
|> about
|> 2000$, but that's too much!
|> 
|> SGI'ers, don't keep us dark!
|> -- 
|> mfg, Andreas Gradert  fon +49 30 6923946  email  
|> ag@nextcube.in-berlin.de
|>      D1000 Berlin 61  fax +49 30 8825421 
|> ...unido!fub!unlisys!nextcube!ag
Andreas,

  your applications can't be to demanding if you don't ask for a
GREENIE/RE! And only two processors!!! Do you really think we are
building toy calculators?!?!?

Martin
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From: heiko@Groucho.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Heiko Schlichting)
Subject: Re: SMAIL config problem
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Dept. of Chemistry
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:01:37 GMT

greendog@insti.physics.sunysb.edu (Michael D. Fischer) writes:
> greendog@insti.physics.sunysb.edu (Michael D. Fischer) said:
>
>Michael> I am trying to switch to SMAIL here, and it works except for one
>Michael> problem:  it has trouble recognizing the local machine name.  i.e.
>[etc]
>
>OK, so I fixed that problem.  It was the "domains=" was not set.

You can check this with "smail -bP all" and set such variables in your
$SMAIL_LIB_DIR/config file.

>However, things are still funny.  When I send mail to a machine
>running smail, it arrives with the header
> "From max.physics.sunysb.edu!greendog" when I think it should be
> "From greendog@max.physics.sunysb.edu".  I can't find where this
>is happening...

This is an envelope address and normally written in this format. Look
at the sender-address in the "From:" header. This is in the normal
Internet format.

Heiko
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Heiko Schlichting                     | Freie Universitaet Berlin
heiko@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de     | Institut fuer Kristallographie
From: mikey@eukanuba.wpd.sgi.com (Mike Yang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Help needed: Xlib-based application
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:07:15 GMT
Reply-To: mikey@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1993Jan4.162925.4330@iiasa.ac.at>, patel@iiasa.ac.at (Deepan PATEL) writes:
|> Problem:
|> It compiles but does not run. Specifically, it fails in
|> XQueryFont() with a BUS error. I have the same application
|> running on sun4, RS/6000, Ultrix, ... I cannot make these
|> run on the SG display and crash at the same XQueryFont() with a
|> BadAlloc error.

You're getting a bus error rather than an X error?  Assuming that
you're passing the correct arguments to XQueryFont, check for memory
corruption/overrun previous to the call.

|> The application is refused a XOpenDisplay() when I try to run the
|> SG compiled version on another remote display. However I can run
|> other SG X-based applications (like xclock) on the remote display
|> without problem. I tried these with different Xlib-based applications, 
|> and they crash at the same point.

If you're using NIS (YP), you need to link with -lsun in order to use
hostnames not in your local /etc/hosts file.  If you used imake with a
Imakefile, this library would've been linked in automatically in the
imake-generated Makefile.

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                 Mike Yang        Silicon Graphics, Inc.
               mikey@sgi.com           415/390-1786
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Timeslave bug?
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:25:14 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <matt-040193214031@wardmac2.med.yale.edu>, matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy) writes:
> I have a related question.  About every other month, a problem
> at Yale Computer Center causes the campus timeserver to
> jump around wildly.  The usual result is a bunch of
> "time changed..." messages in my SYSLOG until eventually
> cron begins to complain.
> 
> Is there a way of telling timeslave to perform a sanity check and
> not follow such chaos?  Maybe it could make *small* corrections
> but ignore corrections larger than some limit except for noting
> them in SYSLOG?


Not reliably without changing the source.

Timeslave assumes large and persistent changes mean the time standard
has decided the date needs to be changed.  If the master changes the
time, and then holds the new value for a while, the slave accepts
the change.  How long is "a while" depends on how well the slave
was following before.

It might be effective to wildly increase the "-r" parameter.
Turning on debugging with `killall -v -USR1 timeslave` or starting
it with -d might be illuminating.

Starting with IRIX 4.0 or maybe before, we fixed some bugs in
cron's response to time leaping forward or back.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: srfergu@rufus.erenj.com (Scott Ferguson)
Subject: Timeslave bug?
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:03:18 GMT

I get the following message in my SYSLOG every 4 minutes:

Jan  4 09:00:33 rufus timeslave[121]: recvfrom(date read): Connection refused

I'm trying to get the time from a host on our site that is slaved to a real
internet time server. The host on our site is serving many many hosts with 
no problem, but all SGI systems get this error. Apparently I'm getting the
correct time, but the "Connection refused" comes from trying to get the
date (according to our internet guru)

Anyone else seen this behavior? Is there a common fix for it?
Thanks

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Project Engineer                      New Jersey
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: tohanson@gonzo.lerc.nasa.gov (Jeff Hanson)
Subject: Re: xcdplayer-2.2 - X11 CD player for Sun and SGI
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:36:15 GMT

You can get it from swedishchef.lerc.nasa.gov in the programs/X directory.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: patel@iiasa.ac.at (Deepan PATEL)
Subject: Xlib problem: update
Organization: IIASA, Laxenburg, Austria
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:04:54 GMT

Thanks a lot for help regarding the Xlib problem I am having, compiling
my application on different platforms.

I have narrowed down the problem a bit more. It always crashes with the
following error:

Process  2178 (test) Bus error [_XrmInternalStringToQuark:136 ,0x4243c0]
	Source (of Quarks.c) not available for Process  2178

This happens not only in XQueryFonts(), but also in XInternAtom().

I did not use piece of code posted in response to my earlier posting, by
beyer@bflsgu.fl.bs.dlr.de (Ralf Beyer DLR), yet. My applications are totally 
based on Xlib (libX11.a) only. They do not use Xt at all. But I will give it 
a try if I have to.

Apparently the problem is not of X(Load)QueryFont() alone.

Thanks again for your help. Any more light on the problem will be highly
appreciated

---
Deepan Patel
patel@iiasa.ac.at

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Deepan Patel
International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis (I.I.A.S.A.),
Advanced Computer Applications, A-2361 Laxenburg, AUSTRIA
From: davea@quasar.mti.sgi.com (David B.Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: C problems (was Re: compiling metamail)
Date: 10 Jan 93 22:01:04 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1993Jan10.004920.13004@biome.bio.ns.ca> silvert@biome.bio.dfo.ca (Bill Silvert) writes:
>Thanks for the one posting that suggested a solution.  However, I found
>the answer, and since it is a common one I felt a further posting on the
>subject is called for.
>
>In this case and others, a file contains this sort of code:
>
>	...
>	x = DoSomething(...);
>	...
>
>static int DoSomething(...) { ... }
>
>On an SGI system this causes DoSomething to be an unsatisfied external
>unless the function occurs before the invocation, or at least is
>declared before it is invoked.  Apparently on other systems this is
>acceptable.

The 3.10 ANSI  (I think it is 4.1-IDO) says:
accom: Warning 338: davea2.c, line 8: Linkage conflict. Identifier "x" extern in local scope yet static at file scope. Put declaration at file scope before existing references/declarations.
       {
       ^

So at least you do get a warning before link time with that version.


>I don't know whether the SGI touchiness agrees with the standard, but

I believe that this falls into "undefined behavior".
I don't have a copy of the Standard at home to quote chapter and verse.
But I agree this compiler behavior is unfriendly.

>this is a real pain.  Does anyone have a general solution?

No (sorry). The C compiler for the next major release gives a warning
for this but connects the call and the definition so "DoSomething" is
found.

Regards,
[ David B. Anderson             (415)390-4263             davea@sgi.com ]
From: fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Fortran Structure and Data Usage
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:24:20 GMT

Heres a small code prototype of my problem:

      program test_35

      structure /geom/
        integer ngprops
      end structure
      record /geom/ g1,g2

c     uncomment these for compiler havoc
c      data g1.ngprops /3/
c      data g2.ngprops /5/

c     these are ok when uncommented
c     g1.ngprops=3
c     g2.ngprops=5

      write(*,1000) g1.ngprops
 1000 format('g1=',i2)
      write(*,1001) g2.ngprops
 1001 format('g2=',i2)

      stop
      end

Ok, so I have a structure, and I want to initialize
g1.ngprops and g2.ngprops to differnent values.

Compiling with the data statements uncommented gives:

        f77 test_35.f -o test_35.exe
Error on line 6 of test_35.f: syntax error
Error on line 6 of test_35.f: syntax error
*** Error code 1

Stop.


Note: The record statement is line 6.  

The program works ok with the lines 

     g1.ngprops=3
     g2.ngprops=5

uncommented.

I know you can say:

      structure /geom/
        integer ngprops /5/
      end structure

but then g1.ngprops and g2.ngprops are initialized to the same 
value.

How can you use structure variables in data statements?

Fred
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: srfergu@rufus.erenj.com (Scott Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Timeslave bug?
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:39:44 GMT

In article <uf8kpe8@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com>, vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:
|> 
|> This particular "bug" is in your other host, not timeslave.
|> 

You are correct sir. My internet guru backed off of his "It's your machine
not mine" stance, and seems to have found the problem and it's working 
properly. Thanks a bunch.

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Scott Ferguson                        Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
Project Engineer                      New Jersey
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"Always bark at a dog."
From: edik@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Ed Sternin)
Subject: Help: problems with remote mailbox
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:56:30 GMT

Folks, I cannot make it work, please help!

On machine A.A I want to open a mailbox that will 
  - raise its flag when /usr/mail/myself on machine B.B receives mail
  - execute a mail program on B.B and send the output to A.A when I
    click on the mailbox icon on A.A

This is what I thought would work:

  /usr/sbin/mailbox -f B.B:/usr/mail/myself -m '/usr/bsd/rsh B.B /usr/sbin/xwsh \
     -fg 7 -bg 97 -bold 230 -cursorfg 95 -geom 80x40 -display A.A:0 -e /usr/sbin/Mail' &

Well, the mailbox icon pops up, the part in quotes works if I it by itself,  but the
mail received on B.B is never detected.   Why is that?

Also, a small problem: I have not been able to make mailbox deposit itself some place
on the screen, as -geometry does not seem to be recognized.  Any way around that?

Thanks all you wizards!  Please, reply directly to edik@brocku.ca, I will summarize for the net.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: ashish@eng.umd.edu (Ashish Nedungadi)
Subject: Logout w/o confirm window
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 22:05:14 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Originator: ashish@valkyrie.eng.umd.edu


Hello,
	I hope the Subject says it all.  Basically I want to be able to logout
without having to confirm it in the confirm window that pops up.  I know that
one can do this for example with the "restart 4DWM" command.  You do this by
inserting the following line in your .Xdefaults file:

	4Dwm*showFeedback:              -restart

I thought that you can do a similar thing for logging out by inserting this
line in your .Xdefaults file:

	4Dwm*showFeedback:             -endsession

But, don't you know it, logic fails yet again!  This does not work.

	Does anybody know how to do this?  If so, please e-mail me.

Thanks!

-- Ashish

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                  |  Dept. of Aerospace Engineering  |  (301) 405 - 1153
Ashish Nedungadi  |  University of Maryland          |  ashish@eng.umd.edu
                  |  College Park, MD 20742          |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: lacey@dsea.com (Dan Lacey )
Subject: logical volumes
Keywords: lv logical volume
Organization: Dainippon Screen Engineering of America, Inc.
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:53:53 GMT

I am trying to use the logical volume feature on an R4K Indigo.
( And what a great idea it is!! )
I have two questions: 
	1) What is the largest possible logical volume and how many partitions
	can this consist of.
	2) Am i doing the right thing ( as explained below). I seem to have
	gotten the right result, but I am paranoid about having missed
	something. Also, besides the on-line UNIX manuals, where can I find
	documentation about this feature?

I have a 1.2Gb disk disk on the R4k Indigo that was partitioned as a rootdrive.
I install 4.0.5F (default parts) on the rootdrive.
I partitioned the second disk as an option drive and run mkfs. (SCSI ID 3)
I want to have the /usr partition be a logical volume.

I edit lvtab with the entry:
lv0:usr:devs=/dev/dsk/dks0d1s6, /dev/dsk/dks0d3s7

I edit the /usr entry in fstab:
/dev/dsk/lv0 /usr efs rw,raw=/dev/rdsk/lv0 0 0

Go to single user mode to unmount /usr.

Make the volume. I need the -f because mklv is complaining that the second
disk does not have a label ( <NO LABEL PRESENT> ).
# mklv -f lv0

Grow the filesystem:
# growfs /dev/rdsk/lv0

Bring the system up:

# init 2

THANX IN ADVANCE

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* THIS SPACE INTENTIONALLY	*	Dan Lacey ( lacey@dsea.com )	    *
*				*	Dainippon Screen Eng. of America    *
* LEFT BLANK			*	3700 W. Segerstrom Ave.		    *
*				*	Santa Ana, CA. 92714		    *
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					Dan Lacey
					lacey@dsea.com
					Dainippon Screen Eng. of America
From: bclark@ctron.com (Bret Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re:  et0 errors
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:30:00 GMT

>et0: no carrier: check Ethernet cable
>et0: late collision

>I do remember that when I got them before, I couldn't connect
>to other machines, but I am getting them now and am connected
>remotely to another system. Anybody care to jog my memory as
>to what's happening?

If you could not connect to other host then your network cable is
off, but if you can connect to other host then you may have a bad
cable. 

Bret Clark
Cabletron Systems
bclark@ctron.com
From: HERBER@fnal.fnal.gov (Randolph J. Herber, CD/DCD/SPG, x2966)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: developing under sys 5 unix
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:17:13 GMT

+From:	SMTP%"karish@pangea.stanford.edu" 12-JAN-1993 06:17:29.17
+To:	info-iris-misc@BRL.MIL
+CC:	
+Subj:	Re: developing under sys 5 unix

+From: Chuck Karish <karish@pangea.stanford.edu>
+Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.programmer
+Subject: Re: developing under sys 5 unix
+Message-ID: <1993Jan11.214558.11272@leland.Stanford.EDU>
+Date: 11 Jan 93 21:45:58 GMT
+Sender: Mr News <news@leland.stanford.edu>
+To:       info-iris-misc@BRL.MIL

+In article <1993Jan11.202845.12276@lincroftnj.ncr.com>
+rjf@lincroftnj.ncr.com (51351[efw]-Robert Feddeler(MT4799)T343) writes:
+|In article <1993Jan11.190843.6808@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
+vahe@sparcy.Stanford.EDU (Vahe Avedissian) writes:

+Hi, Vahe!

+||The real annoying thing is once you run a program
+||with a bug, the system tends to completely stop responding
+||to interrupts or anything else, the windowing
+||system and manager are rendered unresponsive too.
+||You just sit there and wait for the system to eventually
+||(i.e. anywhere from 3 - 10 minutes or so) core dump.
|
+|I've experienced this a few of times.  The bug always turns out
+|to be an out-of-control recursive function.  The process eventually
+|runs out of swap space or exceeds the limits on process virtual memory
+|as the stack grows.  It takes a while to page all that stack out, and
+|then read it back and write the 'core' file.
|
+|Try a smaller, faster disk...  {8^)

+Or use csh for your shell, and use 'limit stacksize' and
+'limit coredumpsize' to keep the process from being such
+a resource hog.
+--

+    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
+    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu

Or, use a better shell, ksh:

	ulimit -s 999
	ulimit -c 999

Replace the 999's with your desired limits.  These do the same operations
as the corresponding `csh' statements.

(re `csh': try sending command normal output to a file and error output down
a pipe without a subshell.  This is easy with either Bourne or Korn shell.
Try nested command output quoting.  This is easy with Korn shell. ....)

Randolph J. Herber, herber@fnalf.fnal.gov, +1 708 840 2966
(Speaking for myself and not for US, US DOE, FNAL nor URA.)
(Product, trade, or service marks herein belong to their respective owners.)
From: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Frustrated with SGI support..
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:20:23 GMT
Reply-To: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Organization: SERC Daresbury Lab, Warrington, U.K.
NNTP-Posting-Host: vxstn2.dl.ac.uk

As a relative newcomer to the SGI arena, I must say that the UK software
support is excellent. It reminds me of what DEC's support used to be
like until they got so big, unweildy and diversified. I suppose there's
a lesson in that somewhere :-). 
Cheers,
	Mark
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From: bobg@rains.wpd.sgi.com (Bob Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Upgrading 4.0.1 & 4.0.4 systems
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:14:40 GMT
Reply-To: bobg@rains.wpd.sgi.com (Bob Green)
Organization: sgi

In article <34877@adm.brl.mil>, leonardz@testarossa.cs.uoguelph.ca (Len Zaifman) writes:
|> 
|> 	We have several systems on campus whichare variously at 4.0.1 & 4.0.4.
|> We have 2 CD's labelled 4.0.5a update & maintenance disks and two more
|> labelled 4.0.5f. The OS disk for 4.0.5f ( with eoe1,eoe2, etc.  ) is
|> clearly labelled  for indigo & reality engine systems only. The question is
|> : should I update the users to 4.0.5a using the 4.0.5a update disk and
|> apply the 4.0.5f maintenance disk , or should i use the 4.0.5a maintenance
|> disk as well??
|> 
|> 						Regards,
|> 						Len Zaifman
|> 
|> Len Zaifman
|> Information Technology Coordinator, College of Physical and Engineering Science
|> University of Guelph, Guelph, Ontario. N1G 2W1
|> phone : (519) 824-4747 xt 6566 
|> fax   : (519)767-1620
|> email : leonardz@Testarossa.cs.uoguelph.ca

For Indigo and RealityEngine systems 4.0.5F is the answer.
For all other systems 4.0.5a is the answer.

If you have a Crimson system or you are using NFS lockd features,
you will want the patch maintenance release 4.0.5C that fixes
two these problems in 4.0.5a.

Both 4.0.5a and 4.0.5F are designed to load over 4.0.1 and later
releases.  You do not need to go to 4.0.5a to proceed to 4.0.5F.

The installation procedure is:

	1. load the standalone tools from the Execution Environment CD
	2. install the Execution Environment products
	3. remove the Execution Environment CD and insert the Maintenance
	   CD.
	4. load the maintenance products (type 'go')
	5. quit

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	Email: bobg@sgi.com
	Phone: (415) 390-3438