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From: msmith@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Dragon Lord)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Should I buy the Cyrix chip ?
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:24:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Sep11.032439.1389
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities, Richland

In article <1992Sep9.201510.27348@dcatlas.dot.gov> joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott) writes:
>
>Personally, I would *never* buy anything with the Cyrix chip.  This is the
>chip that is labeled a 486 but is really nothing but a 386 with a 1K cache
>added to it.  I'm not even sure it _has_ a coprocessor, being intended
>(I think) as a knockoff of the 486SX.  Reviews have consistently flamed
>this chip for not being a true 486 (PC Mag, PC Week, Infoworld(?)).  So, in
>your list of planned purchases, don't _queue_ it, _screw_ it.
>
The question was wether or not to buy a Cyrix 387 coprocessor.  Nothing
to do with the 486 is/is not debate.
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From: holmes@cheshire.oxy.edu (Mark Holmes)
Subject: Re: Mouse Ball problems
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 01:31:17 GMT

In article <Bu8I4p.10z@andy.bgsu.edu> rlee@bgsu.edu (Bob Lee) writes:
>My mouse has been seving me fine for the past year. Then recently I've
>been using it a lot and now the ball inside the mouse is losing its
>ability to couteract friction. Now when I move it across the pad the
>ball refuses to roll and so it does not spin the contacts in the mouse.
>
>Did anyone else run into this problem? Is there an easy way to fix it?
>Does the temperature/humidity have an effect on the ball?
>
>Any answers would be greatly appreciated!
>
>Thanks!
>-BOB
>

  I certainly hope you've thought of cleaning the thing.  The very first 
mouse I had ran into the same problem in a few months.  It 'stuck' at points
and jumped around.  I looked inside it and found the rollers covered with a
black substance that was so thick I actually thought it was a rubber surface
for the ball to grab onto.  My friend quickly ocrrected me, ungooked it, and 
it ran perfectly.  
  Mouse cleaning is something so trivial, obvious, and easy that many people
tend to ignore it.  BTW, if you've considered this, please excuse any    
unintentional insult to your intelligence.
--MJH

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From: pds@epcc.ed.ac.uk (Patrick Surry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,sci.electronics,sci.engr
Subject: Multi-channel data analysis/collection software sought
Date: 7 Sep 92 13:16:23 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre

I'm seeking reviews & information about good software for 
multi-channel PC data collection & analysis.

I need support for:

* multi-channel capability (cross spectra and such)
* FFTs
* signal filtering
* transfer functions

A good user-friendly interface is also important with a low learning
curve for people who use the software infrequently.  The software would
collect data via an A/D board of some kind.  I've got some information
on packages called DADISP, ISA, and ASYST and would appreciate any
further comments or comparisons people have.  Information about required
hardware would be useful but is not as important.


Apologies if this posting should not be in this group - but please
point me in the right direction ;-)


Thanks for your help,
Patrick

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From: jld@datascope.com (Jay L. Davis)
Subject: Re: Impressions of Allur, PAC Int., ENSY Systems, Fast Micro
Organization: Datascope Corp.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:08:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.194508.5577@usl.edu> cab6944@usl.edu (Brasseaux Carl A) writes:
>I'm hoping to buy a 486 system in the next couple of weeks from one
>of the following vendors:  Allur, PAC International, ENSY Systems,
>or Fast Micro.  I would appreciate hearing from anyone who has dealt
>with these companies.  Thanks in advance.
>Carl Brasseaux
>P.S. Please contact me by e-mail at cab6944@usl.edu.
>

I have tried to deal with Fast Micro. About 4 years ago I tried to buy
some stuff from them and had a lot of problems. Recently I decided to give
them another try (things can change). Unfortunatly, they haven't. I was
lied to about availability, shipping dates, etc. I will not try them again,
period. Maybe other people have had better luck (couldn't be much worse).

---Jay Davis
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From: bosela@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (George M. Bosela)
Subject: Gigabyte Information?
Organization: Oklahoma State Univ. - College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:00:39 GMT

I purchased a V-COM local bus system several months ago and was
told that it utilized a Gigabyte motherboard.  I'd like to get
the address and phone number for Gigabyte.  If they have an
internet address or a buletin-board that information would be 
appreciated as well.  Thanks in advance.
-- 
George M. Bosela, Oklahoma State University College of Osteopathic Medicine
Phone Numbers:  Wk/918 582-1972 x331,  Fax/918 582-6316,  Home/918 582-4365
Addrs: Wk/1111 W 17th St. Tulsa, 74107, Hm/1620 S Elwood #L15, Tulsa, 74119 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Re: Reasonably priced 2400 Modem/ 9600 Fax
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:56:57 GMT

In article <BuKy5t.M2t@m2.dseg.ti.com> anderson@dseg.ti.com writes:
>Would someone give me the name and address of a source for a
>2400 modem/ 9600 fax
>including fax software, that sells for under $100 with shipping.
>I have a local 
>retail source that is asking $100, but want the best price. 

Elco Computers
229 S. Raymond Ave
Alhambra Ca 91801
(818) 284-3281

I have bought about 5 Smart-1 fax/modems from them in the past 6
months, and each time the price goes down a few $$.
The current price for a Smart-1 2400/9600 fax modem with Quick-Link
software (V.42bis, MNP 5) should be between $65 and $70.
UPS ground shipping (for 1 or 2 or 3 modems) would be maybe $5.
Also remember that if you're ordering from another state, you don't pay
sales tax.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: zarthac@camelot.bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Pinouts for the floppy connector
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  7 Sep 92 00:52:36 GMT

Can somebody send me the pinouts from a floppy connector via E-Mail?
I'm trying to hook a CMS 120 tape drive up to another computer through
the parallel port, and since the CMS only hooks up through the floppy
connector, I need to build an adaptor and write some interface
software... Thanks in advance.
From: msl30@ccc.amdahl.com (Michael Lucash)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Memory Cache questions
Keywords: Cache
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:57:00 GMT
Reply-To: msl30@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Michael Lucash)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep10.003938.9490@sarah.albany.edu> jjo619@thor.albany.edu (John O'neill) writes:
>
>I was wondering if you could use regular (non static) ram for a 
>memory cache.  I realize that static memory is used because it remembers
>when the power goes off, but after using the computer the cache should
>be filled with instuctions.  It seems to me that the static memory
>is only better than regular memory at start up time.  The reason  for
>all this is that static ram is much more expensive than regular ram. 
>I do realize that cache ram is fast and so is more expensive but I believe
>that regular (ie non statice) would be cheaper.
>
>Is this possible ?  Thanks ,
>				John 

Well to begin with Static ram DOES forget when the power is turned off. The
main advantage of SRAM is its speed and the fact that doesn't need to be
refreshed every few milliseconds.  You can get SRAMS that operate at 20ns while
dynamic rams are around 60ns, and they have to be refreshed.

You already have a dynamic ram cache in your system, its called system memory orRAM!  So to get to the point, a dynamic ram cache would offer no real performance advantage.


                   Mike
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From: abe@netcom.com (David Abercrombie)
Subject: Recommend port cards w/ selectable IRQs?
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 13:47:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: 16550, IRQ, serial

Can anyone recommend a good serial port card for ISA?  
I am looking for the following:

   * 16550 UARTs (of course)
   * Two ports
   * Ability to use jumpers to select from a wide variety
     of non-standard interupts (for com3 and com4).  

For example, I might want to use IRQ 5 for com3, since I am not
using LPT2 (which normally uses that interupt).  I might also want
to play around with IRQ 10, 11, 12, or 15 for com4.

Please respond by mail, I will post summary.

-- 
--
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Oakland, CA                           -- or --
(510) 652-7131                     abe@netcom.com
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: What does AST Six Pack do?
Date: 5 Sep 92 19:15:35 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Sep5.161944.20808@en.ecn.purdue.edu> gillum@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Tim Gillum) writes:
>My girlfriend picked up a used XT at a great deal but no doc's came with
>it.
>
>One of the boards is an AST Six Pack.  What six(?) functions does it
>perform?  Considering there's a battery, it probably has a clock.  And
>I also figure there's memory.  What else?

memory, clock, serial, parallel. That makes 4. Maybe two additional
(optional) ports to make 6.

>Would anybody out there know where I could get my hands on some doc's,
>drivers, or the address of AST (e-mail or USPS) so I could ask them?

Call their BBS at 714-727-4723 and download drivers, switch settings, etc.

-- 
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From: ppatel@csws8.ic.sunysb.edu (Prashant M Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Bypass AMI bios passwd protect needed
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:48:35 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook


	You can bypass the AMI bios by holding down the <INS> key while
	turning on the power. This should reset the password to AMI. If
	that does not work then you can disconnect the battery to the CMOS.

					
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From: jpolak@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: PostScript Cartridge for LJIIIP
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:14:19 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

I want to upgrade my HP LJIIIP (3Mb) to PostScript using a font
cartridge. At the moment I am considering the Pacific Page PE/PEXL 
and HP's own offering.

Does anyone have any advice and/or relevant experiences to report?

TIA

--
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Transport Studies Unit     Tel: +44(0)865 274710/5
University of Oxford	   Fax: +44(0)865 515194
Oxford OX2 6NB, UK
From: rchun@crick.bio.uci.edu (Rene Chun)
Subject: BAD FAT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Reply-To: rchun@crick.bio.uci.edu (Rene Chun)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Distribution: usa
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:11:33 GMT

Our labs pc compatible just had a big problem:  a bad C drive
file allocation table.

We ran Norton disk doctor to try and repair the disk but some
of the applications now don't work.

Is there any way to recover the situation?

Or will we have to reformat the C drive.

The D and E drive appear to be fine.  

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

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From: huyh7@fel.tno.nl (C.W.D. Huy)
Subject: connecting EGA/VGA to philips RGB monitor?
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 07:03:10 GMT


Hi, out there. 

Some time ago i've readt an article on the net about connecting a RGB
monitor to a VGA-video card. I have an old Philips RGB monitor (intended to
use with a MSX-2 computer) and I'm wondering if I can connect it to my
old EGA (ATI-wonder) or even my VGA. The problem is that there aren't any
BNC connectors, but there is a SCART-plug. If I'm right there are RGB signals
on a SCART (aren't there?).

So, how do I connect this monitor (if possible at all) from SCART to either
EGA or VGA?

Thanks in advance,

Kees


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Subject: Re: Should I buy the Cyrix chip ?
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:06:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.201510.27348@dcatlas.dot.gov> joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott) writes:
>
>I'm not even sure it _has_ a coprocessor

The post you were responding to was about the 387 Cyrix
Coprocessor chip... not the 386 compatible.

>(I think) as a knockoff of the 486SX.  Reviews have consistently flamed
>this chip for not being a true 486 

This was the biggest marketing mistake since the quite vacuum
cleaner!  They should have marketed it as a higher performance
386 rather than the 486.  I think marketeers got sorta glassy
eyed when they figured folks would buy according to the
landmark numbers... NOT.

Now, for a "super" 386, the Cyrix isn't really that bad of a
deal.

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From: cwpst+@pitt.edu (Christophe W Proctor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: IDE controller cards
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:38:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


	My friend recently purchased a 486/33DX from Micro Professionals and we have recently discovered a rather large problem with it.  It seems that neither one of the floppy drives want to write or format.  After numerous calls to their support line.  We finally got a phone call back.  Their solution was to reinstall DOS.  What kind of fools do they consider the end user to be?
	Regardless, we still need advice on what the problem is.  It appears that the contoller card is to blame, but we can't be sure.  Normally, from what I
understand, multi-io/IDE controllers have two seperate jumpers for read and write, but this one only has a jumper to disable floppy support and one to change the floppy address.  Neither of these seemed to have helped.
	In addition, another symptom of what we believe is the same problem arose.  That is that any DMA access to channel one will lock the computer up to the
point that only a Hard reboot will even get it started again.
	We are as of this moment considering writing a letter to Computer Shopper and the Better Business Bureau about this.  
	Any help regarding this would be greatly appreciated.  
		                       Sincerely,
				Christopher W Proctor
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:22:11 EDT
From: Ed Dentel <EXD108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Speedstar 24X

   Does anyone have any information on this video card? How much of an accelera
tor is it? Specs, opinions, etc.. would be very much welcome!

                         EXD108@PSUVM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: icsip124@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: HELP ME! I need ega cga help.
Reply-To: icsip124@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:45:35 GMT

In article <1992Mar31.223336.107@julian.uwo.ca>, magundi@obelix.gaul.csd.uwo.ca (john macdonald) writes:
>
>Help!!!!
>EGA and CGA detailed pinout information needed urgently.
>
>IF anyone could help me or tell me where to look I would greatly
>appreciate it.
>
>john macdonald

This is the pinout for an MICRON AutoMaster EGA Board, if this will help.

MONO             RGB                 EGA & MF

pin1=ground      pin1=ground         pin1=ground
pin2=ground      pin2=ground         pin2=Secondary Red
pin3=no pin      pin3=red            pin3=Primary Rad
pin4=no pin      pin4=green          pin4=Primary Green
pin5=no pin      pin5=blue           pin5=Primary Blue
pin6=intensity   pin6=intensity      pin6=Sec. Green/Intensity
pin7=mono video  pin7=no pin         pin7=Sec. Blue/Mono Video
pin8=Horiz. Sync pin8=horiz. sync.   pin8=horiz. sync.
pin9=vert. sync  pin9=vert. sync.    pin9=vert. sync.


if you want vga and supervga just ask for me.......Joe Garber/msu 9/15/92

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From: matthias@ecr.mu.oz.au (Matthias_Markus LANG)
Subject: COM3/COM4 problems
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 11:55:47 GMT


Today I bought (second hand) another I/O card. I already have one
(2*serial, 1*games, 1*parallel). Also my CGA/Herc card has a parallel port.
The new I/O card has a nine pin serial port, a 25 pin one, and a parallel port.
 
With infoplus and playing around with jumpers (no docs :-( ) I've got LPT2
to be on that card. The CGA/Herc one is still disabled. I want the two new
ports to be COM3/4. I've got them to stop being 1/2; COM1, COM2, LPT1 and
LPT2 all work fine. No luck with COM3/COM4 though.
 
Infoplus reports two serial ports, $3F8/4 and $2F8/3. COM1&2.
I've tried heaps of jumper configurations: when I get it right will
3/4 suddenly appear, or do I somehow tell my system about it? I thought
you had to tell the BIOS somehow in the system area?


Thanks in advance.

Please send replies to hm@cloud.apana.org.au.
From: gb03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE PHILIP BLUHM)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: \*\*WANTED\*\* 8 inch Floppy Controller
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:05:13 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Sep6.002355.18646@dorsai.com>, parnoux@dorsai.com (Patrick Arnou
x) writes:
>Would anyone possibly know where I might find an 8 inch floppy controller
>for the ISA bus, 8 or 16 bit. I just need to get software off of some old
>8 inch disk I still have.
>
>       Thanks in advance
>
>Patrick Arnoux (parnoux@dorsai.com)
>

The last 8 inch floppy controller I got ( 10 years ago) came from Maynard
Electronics.  I would guess that the standard floppy controller might work for
soft sector floppies.  BTW i also needed software from Tall Trees.  I know
Maynard is in business.  Tall trees is anybody's guess.

Denials
George
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From: wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand)
Subject: Re: Replace 486/33 by 486/50-CPU possible?
Reply-To: motcid!wiegand@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: "world"
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:07:43 GMT

lmebold@csghsg5a.bitnet writes:

>Can every 486/33 Computer be upgraded to a 486/50?
>So is it possible with every 486/33-motherboard to take out
>the 486/33-Chip, take out the crystal (provided it is in a socket),
>plug in the 486/50Mhz-CPU and a 50Mhz-crystal to get a
>486/50Mhz-Computer or is that not possible with all systems?
>If not, why (means, what parts on the board is the mentioned
>crystal responsible for)?


>Thanks in advance

>Luke

I would say that this is a dangerout thing to do unless the motherboard
manufacturer specifically says this is possible. If the board originally
has a 33Mhz processor then the other chips on the board were selected
to work at 33Mhz also. If you increase the speed to 50 Mhz you are
violating the specs for other parts on the board. 

The board might work most of the time with a 50Mhz clock, but you are
taking chances, and it could crash on you at any time.


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From: joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott)
Subject: Re: UPS for 486/33
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:50:38 GMT

grund@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.edu (Victor Grund) writes:


>I'm making a cursory investigation into a UPS suitable for my Gateway
>486/33.  What size would be required (200W power supply)?  Can anyone
>make some manufacturer and model recommendations (with approximate
>prices if possible)?

Check out the Tripp-Lite Omni-450.  Advantages: low cost, includes line
conditioning, oversized batteries (expect >20 minutes backup time), delays
for 5 seconds before switching back to A/C (_after_ recovery spikes have
subsided).
Disadvantages: rectangular wave form (but is this _really_ a big deal for
a PC's switching power supply?), "equipment" appearance, heavy, not true
on-line (unit is SPS, not true UPS).

This unit has 4 outlets, and switches in ~2ms.  I've been using its
predecessor, the BC-450, since 1986; still on the original battery.  I have
had to replace one of its internal inline fuses, but that's it.  I've never
had a power related crash.  My system is a 386/25 with a Sony CPD-1304(3?).
I paid around $389 for it; I think the new ones are still under $400 (street).

-JTT

multiscan monitor.
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From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: Re: Should I buy the Cyrix chip ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:36:22 GMT

In article <516@tower1.uucp> wvp@disnet.uucp (Willem van Pelt) writes:
>
>>>     But, the salesman said the Cyrix chip's math coprocessor doesn't
>>>     work completely.
>>>
>>	This is the first time I heard that Cyrix's chip is buggy, just wonder
>>what the salesman has in mind.
>
>I have heard about software which cannot co-operate with the Cyrix, because
>the chip is too fast and the software doesn't expect the results that soon :-)
>I guess this only goes for badly written software. I have never had any
>problems myself.
>
>Anyhow, I don't expect the Cyrix (or any other co- or microprocessor) to be
>completely free of bugs. They're just too complicated. If there aren't too
>many annoying bugs then it's close enough to perfect for me.
>
>

I have a 386-33 made by TCS which uses a SIS chipset. This will not work
with the Cyrix 387. I think its because the Cyrix has to run in the 
synchronous mode (unlike the Intel, which can run asychronously). Its not
really a bug but a lack of complet emulation. It works fine on most clones
but be sure you can return it if your MB can't use it. My dealer informed
me of the problem after I tried it myself. There was an extremely
detailed review of all the coprocessor chips on this net a month or so
ago that you should get hold of if you want the real scope!

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