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From: bvickers@valentine.ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Casting of Series Question, Maddy.
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:58:50 GMT
Reply-To: bvickers@ics.uci.edu (Brett J. Vickers)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com (Ken Koellner) writes:
>   Who is the actress that played Laura's cousin, Maddy?
>   Is it the same actress that played Laura?

Both are played by Sheryl Lee.

>This all came up because I saw that TV commercial for the GAP (the B&W
>one with the poetry reading).  I thought the actress modeling jeans
>looked remarkably like the Maddy on TP.  Anyone know if it is the same
>actress?

That's M\"adchen Amick, aka Shelley Johnson.

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From: dmittleman@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (Daniel Mittleman)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: TP:FWWM this and that. (movie SPOILERS)
Date: 30 Aug 92 17:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <6011@transfer.stratus.com>, kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com (Ken Koellner) writes...
> 
>In the series, I always thought that the steward at the Great Northern
>was also the giant.  In the season two finalle, we here the 'one in
>the same' line confirming this.  Do you think there is some
>relationship between the one-armed man and the midget?  The midget
>said he was the arm.

    The midget (MFAP) is the arm; that is the relationship.

    One poster suggested that the old woman in the trailer in the movie may
    be the familiar of Mrs. Tremond.  I thought that this was an
    interesting idea that did not occur to me while watching the movie.

>I like actress playing Donna in the movie better.  She portrays
>innoscence better.  Donna in the series seemed like more of a bitch.

    I agree.  I never liked LFB as Donna.  Moira is much better.  Does
    anyone what else she has been in?

>I like that the movie showed a lot of what went on with Laura even
>though most of it was implied in the series.  After watch two seasons
>of a series focused on Laura Palmer without ever seeing very much of
>Laura, I thought it was good to balence it out.

    I don't agree.  the Lynch imagery was just fine in this part of the
    movie, but there was not enough plot advancement for me.  Too little
    new was presented.  And for the audience of those who have never seen
    any of the TV series, the movie was seriously flawed in that too many
    characters were introduced peripherally with little or no development
    and little or no meaning to the plot.  (eg. Shelly, Leo, whats his name
    Smith who kept the diary)  Further, the characters introduced at the
    beginning of the movie (who might have made for an excellent story)
    were cut short so we could see all the drama about Laura.

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From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Peaks script address
Organization: Clark University
Date: 31 AUG 92 17:46:10 GMT

Wow, I've been buried in requests for the number of the place that sells movie 
scripts!  Two months ago I went to a Trek convention and this place was 
selling FWWM scripts (and much other movie stuff):

	PIX Poster Cellar
	99 Mt. Auburn Street
	Cambridge, MA  02138
	(617) 864-7499
	(800) 582-0085

I can't verify the continued existance of this place - just tried calling them 
and got no answer.  There are other companies that sell movie scripts, but 
that's the only one I know of.  If they ignore you, post to rec.arts.movies 
and see if they know of others...Have Fun.

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From: elee9xl@jane.uh.edu (92H01722)
Subject: Re: The Pink Room / Industrial Symphony No.1
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:33:00 GMT

In article <78466@ut-emx.uucp>, jsnyder@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (J Snyder) writes...
>In article <1992Aug25.122252.7121@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>|Alright... Music Trivia time.
>|
>|Where did you all hear the tune _The Pink Room_ before?
> 
>	Ummm...Not before this FWWM album...
> 
>|Yes that's right! Bobby put it on the jukebox in the very first episode.
>|Remember... "I'll see you in my dreams, Norma Jennings!"
>|
>|"Not if I see you first!"
>|
>|Rent the Euroflick if you don'believe me ;-)
> 
>	Again, ummmm.  I *own* the euroflick, and these two are *not* the
>same.  You do mean the one that begins with a *boom* *boom* *boom*,
>followed by a sound roughly akin to a record player starting up again
>after a power outage, right?
> 
>	Let's try again.  It's on the Lynch/Badalamenti Industrial
>Symphony No. 1.  The title is "I'm hurt bad."  And for all those who care
>about winning trivia pursuit (tm) after all these years, it is written 
>by both Lynch and Badalamenti, even though there are no lyrics...
> 
 Does anybody know if this "Symphony" available on CD or what? and is
 it worth buying? (sound Peakish enough? J. Cruise's CD did to me)

 Thanks! 
Dave
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Chuck Kincaid)
Subject: missing item in FWWM
Organization: University of Fl, Department of Statistics
Distribution: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:00:15


Hello People,

	Some thoughts after reading many, but not all, posts.  We also
saw the film with a large crowd that laughed MOST of the way through the
movie.  In this case I believe that it was mostly high school kids that
hadn't seen the series.  My friends and I were tense throughout most of
the film, and they laughed.  Boy, if I only carried a machine gun.

	I thought the film was a very good story about the death of
Laura Palmer.  It didn't answer many questions and sometimes didn't
jive exactly with the series, but I think that it was internally
consistent.  (Where did the monkey come from?)

	The one thing that it was missing that no one, yet, has
commented about is the owls!  All through the scene with LP and Bobby in
the forest with the flashlight panning through the trees I expected to
see owls.  But not a one!  Anywhere!  This is just a minor thing (is it?
only maybe.) but I missed them.

Satisfied and Frustrated,

charles d. kincaid
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From: LJ09091@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: 6 Re: FWWM (SPOILERS), Laura's life, Leland
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 00:45:21 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
 >>>>>>>
Sort of. I was expecting to see more of a struggle between good
and evil in Laura's character. In the series, we were told about
all the good things she did - meals on wheels, helping Johnny
Horne, tutoring Josie. These things made it more shocking to the
town, and to us, when Laura's dark side was revealed. In the movie,
she had few redeeming qualities. Even when she was with James, it
didn't seem as though she was trying to be good. I think it would
have helped if we had seen this battle going on inside Laura.
>>>>>>>>>

If you had  read Laura's diary, you would have seen a part of her
not shown on the TV series.  It showed thedestruction of her mind
much better than the series.  It showed the struggle between her
good and evil halves and how the evil part won. It should how Bob
destroyed her long before she was murdered.
From: zitt!joe@dogface.austin.tx.us (Joe Zitt)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Fire Walk With me is great... no question
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:45:59 CDT
Organization: Metatron Press / Human Systems Performance Group, Austin, TX

01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:

> Let's face it, the critics are panning it because they are fools with no souls.

Not that I'm one to defend critics much... but I think that critics may simply
be missing the point of the movie, and, to be fair, I don't think they were
told (or anyone was) that the movie was for fans only. Remember that most
critics -- and, in fact, most people -- did not watch TP religiously, and
that without a "scorecard", there's no way to tell what's going on. If 
viewed as a completely separate entity from the other TP materials, it
does appear to be a lousy movie; I doubt I would sit still for a movie that
presumed that I had a clear idea of all the actors and story lines in, say,
Dark Shadows.


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From: v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM - spoilers...
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:30:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <17ok7sINNj90@agate.berkeley.edu>, jsnell@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jason Snell) writes...
>
>>
>I think they followed a line from a telephone pole over to the trailer.
>And I think the significance of the name was that the person who rented
>the space (Mrs. Tremond and her grandson, the Creamed Corn Kid) just used
>the old name. In other words, it was just a fake name, because it was really
>Mrs. Tremond.
   But Mrs Tremond wasn't the name of the Dream Old Lady and Dream 
Pierre. You'll recall they were inhabiting the house of the REAL
Mrs. Tremond; the woman who looked like a tourist in 1960's Hawaii.
As such, maybe the Dream Old Lady and Dream Pierre are figures
sent by the White Lodge for "Preparation and Cleanup."- to send
clues after the deeds done by the Black Lodge are done, monitoring
the progress before they are done...After all, evil IS always one
step ahead of good in the show...
      BTW, am I the only person who thinks that the Old Crippled 
Woman is the Fat Trout representation of Dream Old Lady? She did
show Desmond the path to the dirt pile and the ring...
                                     George...
"WHO ARE YOU?!?"
From: jms@tardis.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: FWWM - first impressions/audience reaction
Summary: Where is "Sycamore Trees"?
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:55:32 GMT
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Organization: BT Tymnet, San Jose, CA

In article <17ot54INNkro@agate.berkeley.edu> sally@anableps.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson) writes:
>And I'll see you//And you'll see me          ||    Sally  A.  Wilson
>And I'll see you in the branches that blow   ||    Spud   Peel
>In the breeze,//I'll see you in the trees    ||    sally@mica.berkeley.edu
>Under the sycamore trees       (_Sycamore_Trees_  Lynch/Badalamenti)

I saw the movie twice, and tried to locate all the music from the soundtrack,
but I can't remember hearing Sycamore Trees in the movie.  Where was it?

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From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: TP:FWWM this and that. (movie SPOILERS)
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:02:03 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
In-reply-to: sally@anableps.berkeley.edu's message of 31 Aug 1992 17:02:37 GMT

In article <17tjbdINN7e7@agate.berkeley.edu> sally@anableps.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson) writes:

   Ciao,

   Joe Zitt made a good point that the movie was like a Passion Play in
   that the viewers were expected to know the story prior to coming to
   the flick. That is similar to the Greek plays wherein the crowd already
   knew the stories of the gods, and the Greek heros prior to coming to
   the tragedies/comedies. If you see a classical Greek play today without
   knowing the backgrounds you would be completely lost. The play definitely
   was for Peak fans, who knew the characters, the stories, the themes,
   and motifs.

It's also similar in that, in a Greek play, the denoument was not a
surprise.  It was how the playwrite made the story get there that was
the surprise and that was the aspect of the play where all the author's
artistic ability was displayed.

   A end note: I just loved the beginning with the staticy (a real word?)
   
Staticky, maybe?

   television. I may be reading too much into it, but one one level I found
   it as a great inside joke: our televisions were dead, no TP on the air.
   Then the axe coming down, again a joke on how the show was killed, hacked
   to death by some yo-yo tv execs. But then.....the film starts and it might
   be off the air, but it ain't dead.

Certainly, the ``killing the TV (show)'' image is part of the effect.
But it actually does serve a plot point, since, after the room goes
dark we hear a woman's scream and then cut to the body of Teresa
Banks, floating down the river; i.e. the TV set destruction is just
before Teresa's murder; the floating body, just after.  (We later get
to see the TV scene again, in flashback, confirming this.)

-30-
Bob

``You wanna hear about our specials?  We don't have any.''
From: bobk@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Bob Kelley)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:10:39 GMT
Subject: Re: IGNORING ME???
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks

She may or may not have died.  In the final episode of the TV show, she
was chained to the bank vault door when Andrew Packard went in and opened
up his security box, which contained a note from his partner (who had just
died) laughing about the lack of money inside.  Below the note was a bomb
that immediately blows up.  The next scene shows the bank windows explode
outward and one of the character's eyeglasses land across the street.  

The scene indicates that Audrey's probably gone all to pieces about the 
bomb.  
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From: joelfire@leland.Stanford.EDU ( Firehammer)
Subject: pilot video
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 20:44:34 GMT

I'm new to this group, so don't chastise me if this has already been
discussed, but what's the deal with the new ending tacked on to the TP
pilot video?  I feel a bit betrayed by the attempt to make it a complete
movie by adding ten minutes of tidying-up.  Also, were some of the scenes
switched around in the first half-hour or so?  I seem to remember the scene
w/ Grace Z. crying to be a bit later, and much longer.
-joel

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From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Subject: Re: Another FWWM trailer
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 18:00:50 GMT

In article <37300@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ww10aac@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead) writes:
>Forgot to mention what looked like another trailer.  Back during Cannes
>E! ran a special and aired some scenes from what looked like a trailer.
>It started off with the FWWM theme with shots of Waldo, Laura, James,
>Bobby, etc., then an screeching starts up that increases in volume as
>we cut to Mrs. Tremond in the dream in the room beckoning us to come
>closer.  The screeching stops and The Pink Room starts up with more
>scenes and that's all they showed.  Just wondering if anyone's seen this
>one...
>
>ed
>
>
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I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but another trailer I've seen
is one of Leland chastising Laura for having dirty fingernails. The
movie's just opened here, so I'll be seeing it within the next
week...



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From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: audrey.said.edu.au fir GIFS
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:40:38 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Nuff said
Mike (under the sycamore trees...)
From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Questions in a world of blue
Date: 2 Sep 92 02:26:01 GMT
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In-reply-to: rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu's message of 1 Sep 92 20:38:37 GMT

In article <rhaller-010992131736@rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu> rhaller@oregon.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller) writes:
   In article <1992Aug29.083023.669@cs.mun.ca>, georgen@pooky.cs.mun.ca
   (George Noel) wrote:

   > 	     The picture of the room with the door opened that was given to
   > 	     Laura, was that the room "above the convenience store"?

   Nope. That room is shown in the vision sequence during Bowies part.

Are you sure they're not the same?  I got the impression that the room
in the Agent Jeffries section and the room in the picture were the
same (i.e. the room above the convenience store).  Of course, I could
be wrong.  (The major thing wrong with TP:FWWM is that you can't go
back and replay it to figure out questions like this.)

-30-
Bob

``This is garmonbozia.''
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From: roger@wrq.com (Roger Fulton)
Subject: Re: TP:FWWM script anyone?
Organization: Walker Richer & Quinn, Inc., Seattle, WA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:21:51 GMT

In article <15286@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>Even if no one wants to post all 200-odd pages of the script, could at the
>very least some kind soul type in:
                           ^^^^

What would really be great is if someone with a
hard copy and an OCR scanner would scan it and
post the result.

If anyone does do this, please accept my
*thanks in advance!!!*
From: ian@ece.arizona.edu (Ian Kuvik)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: What's in the video that wasn't in the pil
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:29:10 GMT
Reply-To: ian@ece.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Computer-Aided Engineering Center

In article 6097@transfer.stratus.com, kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com (Ken Koellner) writes:
>I know that Bob getting shot in the basement isn't in the series.  It
>doesn't fit anyway and was obviously an ultra-feeble attempt at a
>quick and dirty ending in case they had to show the thing stand-alone.

The video first appeared in Europe _before_ ABC picked up the
series. That was how it was originally shot. Once ABC picked up the
series Lynch & Frost could write more into the story. Leland and BOB
have no connection in the original pilot video.

>Was the part were Sara Palmer saw Bob in Laura's room in the series?
>I remember a part in the series where there was a sketch of Bob that
>they eventually showed Ronnette in the hospital.  Is that the sketch
>from Sara's description or did it come from somewhere else?

No. Again, this was how BOB was originally explained. In the series the
sketch of BOB was made from Cooper's description (in his dreams), not
Sara Palmer's.  When Leland later saw the poster (in the series) he
said ``I know this man...''  Again, this is the series plotline where
BOB inhabits Leland, not a physical person.

>      -John Bitmap


	-ian-
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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: Re: FWWM: box office news
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:42:34 GMT

steve@sep.Stanford.EDU (Steve Cole) writes:
> From one of the clari newsgroups:
> 
> >	The weekend's other major opening, New Lines' ``Twin Peaks: Fire Walk
> >with Me'' failed to generate much heat in eighth place with an estimated
> >$1.9 million at 691 screens. The movie brings to the big screen the
> >continuing saga of TV's offbeat ``Twin Peaks'' series set in a mythical
> >Northwest town.
> 
> Considering that Pet Sematary II opened in 3rd place with around
> $5-6 million, this isn't very good news.

One reason for this is that Pet Sematary II's probably playing on more
screens.   PSII opened here.  FWWM did not.
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From: neilb@scs.leeds.ac.uk (Neil Bowers)
Subject: TP: FWWM in the UK
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:57:29 GMT

So far there has only been one mention of FWWM in the UK here, and that
was someone asking when it will be released.  I rang various cinemas,
and asked when FWWM would be out.

One (Odeon) said that they only had definite details for the next month
or so, and it definitely wouldn't appear in that time.  She said it might
appear sometime after October, since `less mainstream' titles are sometimes
slipped in at short notice.  But she didn't really seem to know.

The Cannon said they didn't have it down for release before December,
but didn't seem to know anything about it anyway.

Perhaps a UK film buff type would know who to ring about this?
You out there Col?

-neilb
From: sally@anableps.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Twin Beaks
Date: 2 Sep 1992 16:55:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anableps.berkeley.edu

In article <sterling.715279491@crash> sterling@crash.cts.com (Mike Sterling) writes:
>My daughter was watching Seaseme Street yesterday and Monsterpiece Theater came on.  The episode was Twin Beaks.  It was rather interesting, as Agent Cookie 
>was attempting to discover why it was called Twin Beaks.  There were many refrences to the series, but my favorite was the Log Bird and the line "Darn fine Cookie."
>
>Mike Sterling
>

What about..."darn fine plate..."
And then there were the characters of David Finch, and Laura...
A very good take-off on the series, and the background music
was very Peakesque too.

Sally--


-- 
And I'll see you//And you'll see me          ||    Sally  A.  Wilson
And I'll see you in the branches that blow   ||    Spud   Peel
In the breeze,//I'll see you in the trees    ||    sally@mica.berkeley.edu
Under the sycamore trees       (_Sycamore_Trees_  Lynch/Badalamenti)
From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Peaks script address
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:06:19 GMT
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In-reply-to: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu's message of 31 AUG 92 17:46:10 GMT

In article <31AUG92.17461019@vax.clarku.edu> mcohen@vax.clarku.edu writes:

   Wow, I've been buried in requests for the number of the place that sells movie 
   scripts!  Two months ago I went to a Trek convention and this place was 
   selling FWWM scripts (and much other movie stuff):

	   PIX Poster Cellar
	   99 Mt. Auburn Street
	   Cambridge, MA  02138
	   (617) 864-7499
	   (800) 582-0085

   I can't verify the continued existance of this place - just tried calling them 
   and got no answer.

Well, it's still there.  They're selling copies of the script of
``Twin Peaks: Fire Walk with Me'' for $15 a pop.  Or, at least they
were when I picked up my copy on Saturday.

-30-
Bob

``I'm as blank as a fart.''
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