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From: keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely)
Subject: Re: Question about Soaps
Reply-To: keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 22:13:16 GMT


In a previous article, diane@island.island.COM (Diane Ascher-Leyland Face)) says:
> I think that the popularity of soaps is based on a number of things.
> 1) A highly mobile society.  While you may pack up your residence and 
> move across the country, the soap family is still there.  While all your old
> friends are still at home, your soap family follows you everywhere.

Actually, I find that soaps are very much like real life in that respect.
I mean, I'm sure you've noticed how there really aren't a whole lot of 
characters that actually stay on the same soap for a really long time.
People move in and out of Pine Valley, or Springfield all the time, just
like a real city.  I know what you are saying about the mobile society, as
I have lived in 7 different cities in my lifetime.  For example, if
Stratford, Connecticut had a soap,  I would have been a character from
1988-1990, just like Rebecca Whitmore from Generations (a soap I REALLY miss)
only lived in Chicago sporadically.  I see it a LOT here at college where
people come and go quite rapidly.  Now, I'm not saying soaps are like real
life (although sometimes it seems like it), but the transition of people 
are very much like real life, I think.  :)

> 2) Cheap intimacy.  You get to share the most intimate details of someones
> life/adventure without having to participate in anyway.  (Gee you'd think 
> THAT would appeal to men) :^)  (BIG SMILEY)

hehe :)

> 3) They are the modern day campfire story.  You know, the one where people 
> used to gather around the fire to hear the latest update on the story.

I agree.  :)

> 4) GREAT Gossip material.  You can talk about what a slut Brooke (B&B - not 
> the angelic AMC Brooke) is and hurt no one's feelings.  After all, it can only
> benefit the soaps to have you talking about what a slut Brooke is.  Just think  of all the people who will tune in just to see her slut-around.

YES!  It's a lot easier to be nosy about soap characters than trying to butt
into your real life friends' lives.  It causes less problems too.  :)

Another thing that I like about soaps is that it's cool to sit around 
remembering the past.  I always think it's especially neat when soaps
mention something that happened to a character 2-3 years ago on the show(or 
even longer).  I think it's interesting to see how one thing leads to another
and how one characters actions 5 years ago is affecting another characters
life today.  That's another thing that is like real life.

I'm a sociology major and just seeing all of this interaction among these
people interests me a lot.  :)

see ya!

Keithy
-- 
"You have class, Claire!  You have class up the butt!!"--Janitor Joe
From: jvz@cci632.cci.com (John V. Zambito)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Y&R: Nina's mom and guns
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:25:57 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

Flo (Nina's mom) is on the cover of the February issue of WOMEN AND GUNS.
She's sliding a magazine into a semi-automatic pistol which she is 
thinking about buying. A picture inside shows her in the woods holding
a shotgun. She must really like guns. I like that in a woman.
From: stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Stanton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Today's best line.
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:29:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr14.212900.7651
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Subject header says it all.  An episode well worth watching.
I loved Marlena and Roman today, I found that I was quite
frustrated seeing how long they have been on this show, and
realizing how much of that time they haven't even been 
together.  But, I digress.  This line is of course between
Dani and Vivian in Dani's hotel room.  She was great today!

Vivian: "Don't compare yourself to me my dear.  You're nowhere
	 near my league."

Dani:  "I doubt anyone is, outside of hell." 

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*  C. Stanton              ** Opinions are my own, not UGA's.              *
* stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu** Conflicting opinions are welcome, I will     *
* University of Georgia    ** certainly respect one's right to be wrong.:-)* 
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From: carol@IVY.PRINCETON.EDU ("Carol Agans")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Adam & Erica bite together
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:09:18 GMT

In his April 3 update, Lance writes:

>  Sentiment of the Week:   v101pyrw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michelle L. Zafron)
>  ---------------------    [RE: Erica's divorce rationales]
>
>                            "1.Bianca was born BEFORE Travis
>                              and Erica were married.
>                             2.Illegitimacy has no bearing
>                              on a custody case.
>
>                              All this tired plot device has done
>                              is to prove that Erica is dumb
>                              beyond belief and that Jack and
>                              Walter Hines got their law degrees
>                              the same way Dan Quayle did.  So no
>                              more!!!  Get more creative."



You are SO right!  I hate this whole thing extremely mucho.  It
makes me gag.  Don't get me wrong, I love Eric and I love Adam,
but I can't even watch them together in this stupid story line.
I fast forward through all their stuff together.  Thanks for putting
it in words -- nobody else seems to mind the assinine storyline as
far as I can see.




Carol Agans


p.s. to M. Gibbs:  THANKS SO MUCH FOR THE UPDATES -- I really
     appreciate it!
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From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Subject: Re: AMC: FAN SURVEY
Reply-To: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 12:30:33 GMT

In article <sctbsINNd0a@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> batman@batcave.Sun.COM (Karl MacRae - Burnin' with Optimism's Flames) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.034916.16688@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> keb3@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith E. Bitely) writes:
>>
>>
>>>MOST HANDSOME MALE:
>>>Brain Bodine
>
>       Oh, GROSS......
>
>       You're makin' me sick.
>
>               -Karl

Jeez, Karl.
-- 
Pat Martin Steward                          patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913
From: RMDELC01@ULKYVX03.LOUISVILLE.EDU (Rose Marie Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL:Codices
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:01:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ulkyvx.01GIXC45Z5F8BJSFAY


>From: jgreat@convex.com (J L Greathouse)
>Message-ID:<1992Apr16.134016.27171@news.eng.convex.com>
>
>Not only that, but whatever happened to the `John is Carleeeeeee's
>sister' storyline?  One day he was saying things like, `Gee, I'm
>feeling so protective of Carleeeeeee,' then nothing else is said...
>
>The other Janet


     John is Snarly's sister?  Hmm...well, that
_does_ explain quite a few things...like the
plastic surgery scars, transplanted chest
hair, the weird mood swings...

:-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)  :-)

(I couldn't help it!  Sorry Janet!  It
was my evil twin taking over my keyboard!)

                                          
                                   Rose 
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Subject: Re: DOOL -- Snowballs in Hell
From: vectrgsj@VAX.CSUN.EDU (GSAIDJOHNSON)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:02:36 GMT
Reply-To: vectrgsj@VAX.CSUN.EDU
Organization: Cal State Northridge

In article <28709@brahms.udel.edu>, riddle@brahms.udel.edu (Tammy Laird) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.120521.13453@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak) writes:
>>
>I have a question to ask about British people and their speech.  The other
>day when Count Ickula called--John was in the shower, and Dani answered the
>phone--I could have sworn that Dani said Isabellar instead of Isabella.  I
>couldn't rewind and check because I was watching in real-time.  Is that
>something the British do, add "R's" to the end of names that end in an "A"?
>I remember Shane use to say "Kaylar" all of the time.  

I feel qualified to answer this question since I'm married to a Brit.  Yes, 
they do tend to add R's to the ends of words (not just names) which end in A 
-- at least my husband does this.

>--Peach Pit :-) -- I'm the nice one, Joanna is the bad one.  You know about
>Lemons, they're a little sour. :-)  
>
>>|  What is it up in the air for?                :   Timothy Mizerak        |
>
			  __.        |
			 /  |  __. . |
			(__/|/(_/|_|_|__)
			   /| Gail Said Johnson - gsaidjohnson@vax.csun.edu
			  (_/ California State University, Northridge*
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   *This posting, of course, has nothing whatever to do with the university.
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From: slewis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sarah L Lewis)
Subject: Re: SISTERS on Saturday nights
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:38:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.221510.7629@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> bawags@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Her Heinous) writes:
>
>Hi in netland! Does anyone watch the night time soap Sisters?
>I missed a few episodes and need some questions answered.
>Bernal

I catch it when I remember it's on.  I saw Saturday's episode (the new one
where Frankie finds out she can't have children), but might have missed the
one before that.  They've been rerunning the episodes out of order here,
so I never know which ones are going to be on.  They're supposed to have
two or three new shows coming up in the next weeks, which I'm looking
forward to.

Sarah
slewis@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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From: admn@quads.uchicago.edu (Bonnie J. Black)
Subject: Re: KL: Season Finale
Reply-To: admn@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:02:33 GMT

In article <gduMrKq00UhW41z3Z=@andrew.cmu.edu> lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liz Fox) writes:
>On 10-Apr-92 in Re: KL: Season Finale        
>user schwinge, angela m@utkvx writes:
>>>Anne preggers???????????  What a hoot.  Oh boy oh boy oh boy.
>>> 
>>What a shock but where did Greg go?  
>> 
>
>
>I am almost positive that Greg has Meg.  When Meg waved - we never sawe
>who she waved to - I'm sure that's why Greg doesn't want anyone to knoe
>where he is.
>
	I disagree.  I think that Greg recognizes that it is far better for
her to be with Karen and Mack.  Besides, he signed over a third of the
company to her and left them in charge of it.
-- 
Bonnie J. Black	(admn@midway.uchicago.edu)
The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (312) 702-2555 (9-5 CST)
(right down the stairs from the Doomsday Clock)
From: mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN misc
Date: 17 Apr 1992 18:59:58 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu

shanley@ADS.COM (Shanley Edwards) writes:

>AMC writers may have winked again today. You be the judge.
>Livia had a dilemma about whether or not to change her name when she
>marries Tom. 

I thought about that -- but it takes two weeks from the time something
is taped until the time it airs -- it probably also takes some time
from when something is written until it's taped -- so I don't THINK
there was enough lead time on this particular topic.

Of course, I was GONE two weeks ago -- so the discussion may have
started when I was on vacation - in THAT case it would be enough time.

--
In case of atomic attack, the federal ruling against prayer in
schools will be temporarily canceled.

  Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois
Square Dancer, Cat Owned, Leaper, Founder QL Friends of Machiko
From: pml@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (patricia.m.lott)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Y&R
Keywords: Discussion
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:21:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

No one has posted an update recently, but here's a brief
synopsis and a few remarks.

On Monday's show (4/6/92) there is a scene where Jack is
heading back to the ranch to surprise Nikki.  In the meantime,
Mr. Victor Newman himself is with her.  Now we see Jack in his
car and it's a Mercedes.  It has a license plate - Jabot 1!
We see Victor's car.  It's Rolls Royce and has the license
plate (guess?) V. Newman!!!  I found it real interesting to see
the cars and it kind of seemed natural to me that these men would
have these kind of cars.  Now we want to play this little game -
guess who drives what kind of car?  I can see Lauren in a Jacguar -
the two-door model.  Tracy needs something practical with a baby -
maybe a Volvo station wagon!  How about Paul in a red sports car
of some sort?  A Meatta perhaps?  Brad needs something flashy - a
high priced Caddy?  Can't think of the models off-hand.  Ashley
could have a little Mercedes - and again I cannot think of the model
number.  John Abbott should have been driving Jabot 1, but maybe he
has a different plate.  Maybe he should have a Rolls with the plate
J. Abbott.  What about our Jill?  What kind of car would she drive?
A little red convertible?

Whoops!  I got sidetracked here.  Back to the synopsis.  Victor
is trying to find out how Nikki really feels.  Is she in love with
Jack?  Nikki says she loves Jack.  Victor asks if it's the same as
what she had with him (Victor).  Nikki says that isn't fair.  We all
know it isn't the same.  She talks about how loyal Jack has been; how
he has stood by her through all of her troubles; she reminds Victor
he divorced her.  Victor reminds her that he wanted to remarry her only
to find she was already married to Jack.  Nikki said circumstances have
a way of changing our lives.  Victor says we owe it to ourselves to
find out what is happening here.  End of show.  Oh, one little thing.
Jack is sneaking in to try to listen to what is going on.  So tune
in on Tuesday to find out.  I'll try to update Tuesday's show if I
have a chance to watch.  That's all I have time for now.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: jjl5730@usl.edu (Lancon Jeff J)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC:  Dimitri
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:56:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: usl.1992Apr13.185602.10313
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana


	Ok, I think I'm asking for it with this post.  Mega-Flame-Fest '92.
But I am slowly starting to like Dimitri.  His attitude has changed             significantly since he first came on, IMHO.  I like the way he handles 
himself around Erica.  They have finally found a guy who can be as smooth
and scheming as her.  

	He still doesn't compare to Trevor, though.
                      or Tad (he will come back, he will come back.....)

On another note,

	I think we've just about covered all bases as far as the glorious
being who rid us of Swill.  I am holding off my ideas for a suspect for a
bit.  Remember Mr. U and Palmer.  No one ever expected him.  Until the
very end.  Of course, I kinda like the Harold idea......

-- 
                                   V    Jeff J. Lancon
American By Birth,                /%\   E-mail addresses:  jjl5730@usl.edu
  Southern by the Grace of God!   |&|                      iothlp14@ucs.usl.edu 
                                  \@/  <= Trevor tie       thlp010@uslvm.usl.edu
From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Today's best line.
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:22:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr14.212900.7651@athena.cs.uga.edu> stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Stanton) writes:
>Subject header says it all.  An episode well worth watching.
>I loved Marlena and Roman today, I found that I was quite
>frustrated seeing how long they have been on this show, and
>realizing how much of that time they haven't even been 
>together.  But, I digress.  This line is of course between
>Dani and Vivian in Dani's hotel room.  She was great today!
>
>Vivian: "Don't compare yourself to me my dear.  You're nowhere
>	 near my league."
>
>Dani:  "I doubt anyone is, outside of hell." 
>

I agree with you about Vivian and Dani. They both are great.

I can't say the same about Roman and Marlena. I didn't find him dressed up
as a woman funny at all - I thought it was dumb. Enough with the costumes and
get on with the show. I still can't see anything positive about these two.
They both could be eliminated from the show and nobody will miss a thing.

John
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: sher@umbc4.umbc.edu (Sherri Crain)
Subject: Re: GL:  trivia-5
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:00:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.145510.7862@usl.edu> drs1002@usl.edu (Schwartz Donald R) writes:
>
>here is trivia-5!
>
>1.  name beth's fiance' who she almost married when she lost her
>memory and her voice.  (wasn't that about the stupidest storyline -- beth
>miming everything -- or drawing it -- couldn't she read/write???????)
>anyway, name her former fiance'.
>
>2.  who was billy's mother?

  Miss Martha


>3.  who was in love with one man, married his brother, later married
>    his father, almost married his half-brother, then *finally* married
>    him?

     Reva Shayne


>4.  as closely as possible, what did alex say to alan-michael when she
>    saw blake spying on them through the window?

  And get that wench out off my bushes before she..???


>5.  where did india hide the blackmail tapes and the aphrodisiac from phillip?

  Behind a stone in the fireplace.


>6.  name billy's secretary.

  Wanda..ah,but what is her boyfriends name?!


>7.  name the little girl who india finally adopted.

  Dorrie
  
>8.  name sonni's (kent's sonni) twin sister.

-- 

     Lack of planning on your part                 -sher   
doesn't justify an emergency on my part     sher@umbc3.umbc.edu
From: bawags@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Her Heinous)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SB: Santana
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:22:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Arbitrary Telephony & Termination

Does anyone remember Santana as the curvaceous Detroit police 
woman in that romantic love story ROBOCOP II? I saw part of
that last night and ther she was! Right there hobnobbing with a 
cyborg in her tight partially unzippedtorevealcleavage police jumpsuit.
CC be forewarned, she has police training.
Bernal
-- 
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From: armstrng@cs.dal.ca (Stan Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AW: Lorna
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:48:04 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

So what's happened with Lorna?  She seems to have dissapeared.  Everyone's
so busy with poor Jena (eg Matt) That Lorna's just left out of the picture. 
Well I hope she gets back in the picture again soon.  Did you notice how
conservatively she was dressed on Monday. I hope she's not getting a
new image or anything.  She's the only one on AW that can dress that way
and look great. Lord knows Vicky tries, but she cant's pull it off like the
old Vicky.  Lorna is more like the old Vicky than the new Vicky is.

So Frankie is back.  And she's come back to Cass. But we all knew
that didn't we? But the problem isn't over yet, Cass has left Bay City
thinking that Frankie came back to John.  Well I'm getting a little tired
of this now. Hurry up and get them back togather agian, my interest is
waning.

Nadine.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: txap3@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: QUESTION: What's the appeal of TV SOAPS ?
Reply-To: txap3@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:51:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.190948.19123@midway.uchicago.edu>, admn@quads.uchicago.edu (Bonnie J. Black) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.154035.3149@watserv1.waterloo.edu> me@medusa.UWaterloo.ca (My Account) writes:
>>Why are soap operas so popular ?
>>
>>I have my own ideas , but I would like to hear what other people think.
>>
>>Intriguing characters, unexpected plots, tension, drama, suspense ....
>
>	I watch for the characters.  I don't think that suspense has much
>to do with it.  I hate suspense.  But soaps have a real sense of justice.
>You can be pretty sure (though I am beginning to doubt this of late) that
>anyone who is really bad will eventually get what's coming to him.  You
>aren't always assured of seeing justice in real life.  I think that's one
>of the big reasons I like it.  There have been a number of times I've cheered
>really loud and they were mostly when someone got what was coming to him.
>There are also usually some characters with whom I can identify.
>-- 
>Bonnie J. Black	(admn@midway.uchicago.edu)
>The Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists (312) 702-2555 (9-5 CST)
>(right down the stairs from the Doomsday Clock






It's simple.  The one time appeal of Hollywood was the glamour and glitz. 
Well, Hollywood has lost it and soap operas have it. It is a lot of fun to take
a break from your day and watch good looking, rich, intelligent and everything
else people go from one love relationship to another.
From: debbiek@rruxc.uucp (25670s-kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC various
Keywords: b*tch, Savoy, kiss, Boston
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:48:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1992Apr8.151444.23965@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, slaury@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Susan Laury) writes:
> 
> I don't feel too sorry for her -- after all, she insisted that she be
> there to monitor what was going on. And when she slept with Brian she
> knew full well how he felt.
> 
> But I agree that PV needs a good, new teenage-bitch-from-hell.
>   Sus.

And I think we got her and An-Liad is it!
(BTW, when is Opal going to start her "mothering" routine with An-Li?)
                                *********************
Deb                             Since I saw JACKSON,
                                I feel much better.
                                *********************