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From: "david goulden" <david.goulden@canrem.com>
Subject: neil's raindance
Reply-To: "david goulden" <david.goulden@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:23:29 EST

I just discovered this newsgroup so this might be old news, but since
the FAQ says:
     "I heard that Neil Peart was going to publish some of his writings.
      Has this been done?  Can I buy this book?

      No, not yet.  Neil hasn't published yet."

I thought that I would point out that Neil has published at least one
book, I know because I read it.  It's called 'Raindance Over The
Rockies' and is about a bicycle trip he took from Calgary to Vancouver.
It's a good read and since it's probably one of the longest pieces of
prose he's published it gives a good insight into the way he thinks
about people, places, music, etc.  It's full of his dry humour too.

The book was published by the University of Toronto Press.  I believe
the trip took place in the summer of 1991 and the book was published in
the spring of 1992 but I'm by no means sure of those dates as it's been
about a month since I read it.  I borrowed it from a friend who borrowed
it from someone else so I had to read it in two days, which wasn't too
difficult as the book is only 75 pages long.  The copy I had was a large
softcover (8 1/2" x 11"?) with high quality heavy paper.  The book was
signed and numbered on the inside front cover so it MAY have been a
limited edition.

THIS IS ALL I KNOW ABOUT THE BOOK so please don't email me asking where
you can get a copy, ask your library or contact the U of T Press.

David
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: LedZep intimidates Rush fans-Still!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:28:53 GMT

In article <92321.124422ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu> <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Rush fans still take the bait on the old Zep comparison!-I mean what is
>"better"--"I can make my girlfriend cum way more if we fuck to Rush rather
>than Led Z?" Totally subjective -dont get hung up on this.  Its pretty
>obvious that Rush owes a HUGE debt to Led Zep in terms of the musical ground
>the chose to tackle.  Rush chose to follow more disciplined aspect of music
>while utilizing cutting edge technology.  The result is a souless, teched
>out, group of machine controllers.  Zep used classical composition style but
>in a more "do it yourself" way.  Zep never lost their connection to rock and
>roll.  They fit very logically in the evolution of rock lyrical themes; they
>took what thier predesesor had defined as classic and put thier own sonic
>sig on it.  Rush lyrics are more like poetry squeezed, awkwardly onto music.
>The themes they deal with are nothing new.  Gary Numan was writing about all
>that stuff 10 years ago.  As for drummers (torch on ) Niel Peart in
>definately the best technically-But also the least interesting.  SOULESS is
>a better word.  Hes practiced with machines so much , he sounds like
>one.(torch off) Bonham is one my fave drummers,in fact,he has really
>influenced me as a musician.  (and I'm a guitarist) The simplicity of the openi
>ng of "When the Levee Breaks" must be one of the most powerful statements ever
>in rock and roll. Practice all you want-But if you cant put that kind of power
>in that simple a bass drum pattern- your nowhere. Peart could quit today and Ru
>sh could replace with the same type of "studio pro " and I'm sure nobody would
>flinch -Obviously the same cannot be said for Led Zep. -----I think I'm startin
>g to feel a litte warm........

	FLAME BAIT!!!!

Rush is still alive.... Much more succesfull than RP/JP/JPJ solo, combined.

	'nuff said.


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From: pickwick@sw.stratus.com (Michael Pickwick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Dream Opening Acts
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:45:10 GMT
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Who else could be the perfect *dream* opening act for Rush other than
_Dream Theater_ (who happen to be touring clubs right now, three thumbs up).


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From: ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod)
Subject: Re: Rush Keyboardist?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:16:46 GMT


Well, there's really only one minor thing that would change that I can think of.
It could free the band from following a set tempo or click track if there
were a guy playing back the keyboard parts live instead of sequenced.
Other than that, I don't think much would change.  Nowadays, I don't think
the guys wonder about whether or not such and such synth part could be
played live, because under any circumstances, it can be.  Including 
Geddy harmonizing with his own vocals, or other background vocals in 
Geddy's own voice, like they do for Force 10 live.

I really doubt the guys would sacrifice their trio status just to be
more free, since I think they like being a trio.


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From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Re: LedZep intimidates Rush fans-Still!!
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:51:24 GMT


There is only one test that matters.  If you have an album or tape that's
ten or more years old how often do you pull it out of mothballs.  If you
do so regularly then thats a great album in your mind and all those that
snob it don't have your tastes.  Likewise if it isn't good enough for
you to pull it out of mothballs then it's not your kind of music.  Let
everyone like there own favorates and not flame people for having a 
little different tastes than you.



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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: RE Books of fear
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:46:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.223236.60975@cc.usu.edu> slj1k@cc.usu.edu writes:
>In article <BxvtGJ.Cpt@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
>>>This maybe be a FAQ, but I'll ask it anyway. (If it is a FAQ then flame away.
> 
>> 	Well, I always thought that the books refers to _Native_Son_, a great
>> book by Richard Wright...  It is a great book, see if you notice similarities,
>> I did, and got an A on a paper I did on that subject.  The second song is 
>> "The Weapon" on p/g./...

	My bad, see what EE at the University of Illinois can do to you?  2
exams in one day...

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From: ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius)
Subject: New Album?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:27:07 GMT

I don't *believe* this is a FAQ...
sorry if it is...

Rush's studio schedule would put their new album up around
fall of '93... (going on the every 2 years rule of thumb)

Does anybody know anything about this?  Release date?
(approximate) NAME?

Thanks.

* * * * *

Marius
ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

* * * * *
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: The Big Money (Re: worst Rush song)
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:05:49 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <62251@mimsy.umd.edu> lhcompt@cs.umd.edu (Lawrence H. Compton) writes:

>My least favorite RUSH song is Big Money. The basic problem is
>that big money got no soul. Comments???

I can understand this opinion if by it you mean that in your opinion the
song is to "techno", but I would still disagree. There absolutely is
soul in this song when you look beyond the techno-surface (which I
myself enjoy). Would you say that "Show Don't Tell" also has no soul?
I see "SDT" as very much like "The Big Money", the main difference being
this `techno-surface.' To me, the techno-edge is quite simply _more_,
not detracting at all from the song and being the result of the
difference between the production styles of Peter Collins and Rupert
Hine....

Gregg

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From: cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen)
Subject: Re: Rush's Worst Song
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 06:39:23 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

mike writes:
> Rivendell gets my vote it would kill even the Elves! ;-)   

well, maybe the elves had some means of seeing into the future, and 
somehow heard this song and said shit, if this is what we have to look
forward to, maybe we should die now!! :-) :^6

also saying neil is soulless is like saying:
- Dan Quayle could win a spelling bee.
- George bush just won the election on a recount
- Jimmy Page was clean and sober all during his Led Zep career
- New Kids on the Block win my vote for most talented new group
- Cindy Crawford is the butt-ugliest woman I have ever seen, how about
you?
- Steven Seagal should definately have won an oscar right now for best
actor..


Well, you get the point...  come on- listen to Bravado, bone head-
or even the mellow guitar solo on La villa- 

Chris

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From: leitm@solb1.essex.ac.uk (Leith M F)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: RUSH'S BEST SONG!!!
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:16:41 GMT
Reply-To: leitm@essex.ac.uk (Leith M F)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

In article <1992Nov20.142933.24269@wam.umd.edu> ghost@next08pg2.wam.umd.edu (.) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.232218.1427@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>  
>slevine@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Steffan Levine) writes:
>> In article <001738a.33.722198208@ace.acadiau.ca> 001738a@ace.acadiau.ca  
>(GEOFF F L APPLEBY) writes:
>> >Just for a change of pace, why not talk about out favorite group's best 
>> >song? My vote...La Villa Strangiato, followed by Jacob's Ladder.
>> >Anyone else, or would you rather talk about their worst?!?!?
>> For best: Hemispheres, Freewill
>> For worst: Here Again
>best : La Villa Strangiato followed by Red Barchetta
>worst: haven't listened to all of their songs yet...

No-one's spoken up for "Subdivisions" yet! This would be my nomination
for Rush's best song.  I think it has brilliant combination riffs on keyboard
and guitar, and uses the 7/4 (?) time signature very effectively.  I also
think the lyrics have something very important to say and carry the
message well.  My runners-up would be "Turn the Page", "Tom Sawyer", 
"Freewill".  For some reason "2112" and "La Villa Strangiato" are not among
my favourites, although I still regard them as good tracks.   
Do I hear cries of "Philistine" ?!   :-)

Mig.

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From: misselt@trapper.sdsu.edu.sdsu.edu (Karl &)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: FREEWILL: Lyric ?.
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:47:28 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
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	I'm new to this network thing, so please forgive any 
	errors in methodology.  My question is in regards to the 
	choruse in 'Freewill' (PW).  The lyric sheet in the album 
	(and CD) gives the 3rd and 4th lines as:

		'If you still choose not to decide 
		 you cannot have made a choice'

	Now, I'm certain in both versions I have (PW and ESL), Geddy 
	sings the 4th line as 'You still have made a choice'. 
	It wouldn't be a big deal, except for the fact that this very 
	drastically alters the implications of the lyric.  Since one of 
	the things about Rush I respect the most is the philosophy of the 
	lyrics, this has been a fairly bothersome riddle.  I'm curious as 
	to anyones ideas on this apparent contradiction.  Or has anyone 
	heard the subject adressed by one of the boys themselves in an   
	interview?  Thanks to all respondents.  Keep on listening.
From: nflack@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nigel R Flack)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Other bands
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:01:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

The bands I like are:

Rush
Pink Floyd  --> seems very common
Genesis
Peter Gabriel
Dire Straits
The Police
Marillion   --> this seems quite common too, I'm surprised
Yes
Jethro Tull
Journey
Midnight Oil
Pearl Jam
Red Hot's
Smashing Pumpkins
Live
Temple of the Dog
Metallica
Jane's Addiction
Nirvana
U2
Joe Walsh
Eagles
Stone Roses
Supertramp
Bob Marley
Tom Petty
Eric Johnson

and of course:
Madonna     (Yup, I'm serious :)

Nigel Flack
nflack@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
University of Pennsylvania                              Mechanical Engineering
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:37:09 EST
From: <JAR126@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush Keyboardist?

I think that the addition of a fourth member to the group wouldn't work.
One of the most unique aspects of Rush's existance is the unity within
the group.  The band's chemistry works so well that a change, I think,
would disturb their whole being.  Besides, Lee and Lifeson do a pretty
adequate job on the keyboards themselves.  During a concert I once saw
Geddy finger and play his bass with ONE HAND while keyboarding with the
other at the came time (no kidding folks)!!!!  If someone can pull that off
let hime be.  Just my $0.02.....
                                      J (jar126@psuvm)
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From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Subject: Re: Dream Opening Acts
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 07:49:11 GMT
Reply-To: rseymour@reed.edu

In article <BxyFpF.Kvo@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius   )  
writes:
> Yes/Rush combined tour?!?!?!?
> 
> Think of the elements besides music!!!
> 
> Combined millionaire sets...
> Eleven-man combined finale number (Xanadu?!?!?!?)
> Roger Dean artwork... Neil Peart lyrics...
> Rick Wakeman keyboard lines...
> 
> You guys are making my blood pressure skyrocket here.
> 
> However, a Lifeson/Rabin duo wouldn't be bad at all...

	As if the Union Tour wasn't bad enough? I went to two shows, and the  
two differed by one song in the encore. Even the solos (Wakeman's, Bruford's,  
Howe's, and Rabin's) were the same. The album was ABWH II with some Rabin songs  
thrown in. I would love to see the two play together, but as a tour with the  
usual 2-3hr shows (as Union), I think this would be awful.
--
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Dream Opening Acts
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:20:48 GMT

In article <Bxz1LA.76t@news.ucs.mun.ca> glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke) writes:
>cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
>>	Here is a thread that I haven't seen here.  What do you think 
>>would be a good (or great) band to see open for Rush?  
>
>	How long have you been reading?  two weeks?  =^)  I thought this
>was hashed out just recently.  I think it would be best if Rush allowed
>its fans to see little-known-but-promising groups as their openers, as
>opposed to "Supergroups" or hot new video-and-haircut (or lack thereof)
>bands.  Especially Canadian ones.  Especially NOT the Barenaked Ladies!
>-- 
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>glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca | Internet address ... | I get dizzy when I think
>  Newfoundland, Canada   |   I'm a free man!"   |  about it" -Sugarcubes 

About 6 months, how well have YOU been reading?  That thread, as I remember,
was about past opening acts, and how wonderful they were.  Sorry....


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From: gam@sun_jimh.mentorg.com (Gary Merrick)
Subject: Re: Neil
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:30:11 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

|>    The last posting on the subject which I read claimed to have
|>    substantiaition in the form of a photo of Neil with some guy's
|>    arm around him. BFD, that's no substantiation of anything and
|>    furthermore who cares anyway?! What a waste of bandwidth!
|> 
|> What?! Someone thinks Neil is gay because there is a photo with a
|> guy's arm around him? In homophobic Amerika this just might be 
|> true. Yuck. I could kiss a man and I am 100% hetero. 
|> What jerks these people are...

I picked up a book in England that has a picture of Neil
(back in the early days) and Peter Chris from Kiss, each
with an arm around the other.

Does this mean that the members of Kiss are gay too?

I wonder if the guy who is making these accusations has
ever had his arm around another guy... I'd bet so. This
means he's gay too!

Gary
From: hurben@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mike Hurben)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Red Barcheta
Date: 15 Nov 92 00:50:17 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I have seen enough bastardized lyrics!!

My uncle has a country place, that no one knows about
He says it used to be a farm, before the Motor Law
Now on Sundays I elude the eyes, and hop the Turbine Freihgt
To far outside the Wire where my white-haired uncle waits




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  Ft. Collins, Colorado                Weh sprich: Vergeh!
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From: brownea@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Re: How do you post?
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:43:26 GMT

>>	Just call me Earl
> 
> 	Earl is right. It is really a joke (not the song, but the title).
> 
> 	Also, it is supposedly, Part IV of a Trilogy, which obviously doesn't
> exist since a trilogy can on have three parts (i.e. the Star Wars Trilogy).
> 
> 	Just my $0.02.
> 
> Jeffrey Moon
> University of Rochester
> New York
What is the technical term for when somebody gets bitched out for something
they say - Flaming?  Torch on...
	If you were to look up at the signature on this, you will see that the
name given to the user who sent the message reads 'brownea'.  That's ME we're
talking about here.  Please take special note of the 'e'.  That stands for
Earl, which happens to be MY NAME.  You can joke about a nom-de-plum all you
want, but a little time to consider would leave you with the impression that
you haven't heard from me before.  As a matter of fact, this is only the second
time I've been in here.  How do I rate (post)?  It's my heritage.  Get used to
it, cause you're just damn well going to have to deal with it.  <and the torch
sputters out as the wielder looks bewildered...>
	To the rest of you (who may be as soft-hearted as I hope), an appology
for losing my temper.
	As for 3 parts to a trilogy, don't mention it to Douglas adams or Piers
Anthony.  I'd hate to have all of those good Xanth books repealed.  My
impression was that the joke was based on the number of units required for a
trilogy...

	You can still just call me Earl
From: dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Creative input in videos
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:43:46 GMT
Organization: UB

So, that's my question.  Just how much actual creative input do you 
think the band members have in their videos?
Their videos seem to run the gamut (sp?) from very good to very poor.
I, for example, was VERY dissapointed with the video for "The Body 
Electric".  I had had my own vision of how that song would look long
before I ever saw the video, and what I saw bore ZERO resemblance to it.
I, for one, did not picture "Unit One" as a Chippendale dancer type.
What happened to "seeking freedom beneath the lonely desert sun"?
"Bows its head and prays to the Mother of all machines"?
"A pulse of dying power in a clenching plastic fist"?
These lines could translate into powerful visual images by someone 
with a good imagination (as I assume a video creator would have).
Instead we get something that looks like it was put together by a 
marketing consultant who figured it would appeal to the widest 
advertising demographic, and not by someone who'd ever heard the
song (and if they did hear it, they didn't _listen_ to it.)
     By contrast "Afterimage" remains to this day my favorite video.
To me, it's the best visual interpretation of any Rush song.
Maybe it's because the subject of death tends to arouse the strongest
emotional responses in people (or just me?).  Coupled with the _very_
intense performance from the guys (Geddy's eyes seem to be staring right
through me, and I can't think of a way to describe Neil's playing here  
other than to say it is INTENSE with a capital everything!) and a 
terrific opening shot (panning from Alex's guitar on the opening notes, to 
Neil, and finally settling on Geddy just as the lyrics begin) along
with the dark, Victorian-like images of death -- make this video a _terrific_,
well-planned, well-executed piece of work that makes for the _perfect_
companion for the song.

     So, this discrepancy confuses me.  I tend to wonder how much 
of a say the guys have in these videos.  Do they just turn total 
control over to some production company and then do what they're told?  
It seems as though they would want to have some kind of quality control 
over this product, since it bears their images and their music.
     Can anybody shed some light on this for me?

-- 
Don Dianetti  --  SUNY at Buffalo  --  dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu
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