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From: jkatz@netcom.com (Joseph Katz)
Subject: Re: Election Watch from Thailand
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 08:40:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <Pine.3.03.9209010921.A19616-9100000@chulkn.chula.ac.th> prp@chulkn.chula.ac.th ("Ms. Puangpen Rayabphand") writes:
>We are running an Election Watch on this newsgroup for the benefit
>of the Thai people (and others) abroad.
>

I would be very interested in hearing election news.  My wife's father,
Khun Payap Paobleck is running for Parliament in the provence of Phitchit
and I would like to see current polls on the standing of the various parties.
Also, considering the amount of election related violence going on I would
like to keep abreast of the news.






Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu (Me Mann)
Subject: Re: Honorable Attitude? (was Re: US born kids in s.c.taiwan)
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 02:31:43 GMT

In article <26AUG92.20001572@meena.cc.uregina.ca> emaruchi@meena.cc.uregina.ca writes:
>To help Thailand, it doesn't mean that we must go back home and work in
>Thailand.  For example, the Seri Thai Party during World War 2.  Had they

I agree with you that one does not have to go back to Thailand to 
help Thailand.  Infact with the globalization of economies it is
advantageous to have Thais stationed everywhere in the world. It is
just plain good networking.


>as we know it today.  Besides, going back home means we have to occupy job
>positions, giving less chance for other Thais to find their jobs.  So it
>depends.

I do not agree with you on this point.  Thailand right now has a fast growing
economy and a dire need for man power in the relevant field.  There is plenty
to go around. Furthermore, your overseas experience adds a new dimension to
viewing problems and finding solution in Thailand.  If I take it literally
no one should go back to Thailand and that way you don't take away any jobs
from your fellow citizens.  How much can you contribute by being away from
your country? Will you contribute more or less?  IMHO, in most cases, you
will make a more significant contribution by being back in Thailand. 



Me Han Mann
From: prp@chulkn.chula.ac.th ("Ms. Puangpen Rayabphand")
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Election Watch from Thailand
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:50:16 GMT
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We are running an Election Watch on this newsgroup for the benefit
of the Thai people (and others) abroad.

Feedback will be highly appreciated.

Ms. Puangpen Rayabphand
Thailand Information Center
Center of Academic Resources
Chulalongkorn University
Phyathai Rd., Bangkok 10330
Thailand
(662) 218 2970
From: howeird@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com
Subject: Re: Thai National Dance Troup in the U.S.?
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:03:28 GMT
Organization: HP Research Grants Program

According to wila@seashell.seas.ucla.edu (Wilasinee Chunbomrung):
>In article <1992Aug31.124059.14479@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 21602CR@MSU writes:
>>
>>My wife just read in one of her Thai magazines (Dee-chan) that the Thai
>>National Dance troupe is beginning a 1-year tour.  I understand that this
>>is the same group that will be performing in Washington, D.C. on 9/26.
>>
>>Can anyone verify this information for me?  If it's true, does anyone know
>>if this group will be coming to the midwest? (Chicago/Detroit area)

I'm not sure if this is what you are talking about, but I see on the cover
of the San Francisco area newspaper "Prachachon" that a troupe of people
from Ubon Teachers College, called "Bonglang", are in the US. They were 
scheduled to perform in Chicago on 21 August, Washington DC on 30 August
and San Francisco 6 September. The San Francisco appearance is part of a
large "Morodok Thai" festival being held at the Hall of Flowers in Golden
Gate Park from 10 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.

-Howard
........................................................................
. Howard Stateman            |                                         . 
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Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:11:02 -0400 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: [REPOST] part(6): S&T Strategies in Metals/Materials Industry in Thailand 

                        6. Rubber Products
 
* Status(weakness & strength)
 
    - Only about 10% of raw rubber is used in local rubber industry. 
Major products are tyres, tubes rubber bands and footwear products.
    - Ability to export serveral rubber products(hoses, rubber band,
gloves etc.) very few experts in rubber technology
    - Very little R&D
    - Sill import a lot of rubber products, e.g rubber belt
    - Very little testing capability in industry & public sector
 
* Strategy for Development of Existing Industry
 
    - Transfer of technology to industry by training conducted by rubber
research Institute & Mahidol & Prince of Songkhla Universities
 
* Future Strategic Industry
 
    - Engineering rubber products e.g. rubber belts, rubber springs,
bridge bearings
    - Thermoplastic elastomers that can be processed like plastic e.g.
using injection moulding process
 
* Future Technological Capability Needed
 
    - Inquisitive & operative capability in rubber processing
 
* Strategy to Develop Future Capability
 
    - Increase public & private R&D
    - Cooperation between Rubber Researh Institute, universities and industry
 
* Policy Recommendations
 
    - Feasibility study of setting up private R&D & testing by
Federation of Thai Industry, Rubber club
    - Sponsored R&D by NCMM, Nat. Res. Council, STDB
    - Govt. funding for education & training aboard
 
=============================================================================
posted by


Schitt(DJ)  Laowattana

****************************************************************************
Current Address in USA:

Department of Mechanical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
5000 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217
USA
Tel. No. 268-8880
Fax. No. 268-3348
e-mail: sl2k@andrew.cmu.edu


Permanent Address in Thailand:

Center of Operation for FIeld roBOtics Development(FIBO)
King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Thonburi
91 Suksawasd 48  Ratburana  Bangmod
Bangkok 10140, Thailand

Tel. No. 428-3374, 427-4421 and 4270151-9 Ext. 461
Fax. No. 427-8077, 427-8787

*****************************************************************************
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:01:33 -0400 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Requests for Reposts

Excerpts from mail: 26-Aug-92 Request to re-post the inte.. by "S.
Yunchalard"@massey.a 

> I am one of the Thais Netters who is now on leave for 
> study in Biotechnology at Massey University , New Zealand
>  
> I found that you are one of the active Thai netters who
> writes and posts many interesting articles concerning S&TD
>  
> Recently I had read your articles on Problems and Limitation
> in S&TD in Thailand Part 1 and Part 2  then I was quite busy
> during last week when I came back to the net the rest of the
> article have gone (Part 3- Part 7)
>  
> Would you please post those articles again in s.c.t
>  
> I will be very much appreciated
>  

    I will take this opportunity to repost S&TD info. again since some
other Thai students who've just come back to their school, may want to
know these info.   For those of you who have read them eariler, please
ignore my following posts beginning with [REPOST].  I hope that such
posts will not bother you that much.

Reagards,
Schitt(DJ)


Schitt(DJ)  Laowattana

****************************************************************************
Current Address in USA:

Department of Mechanical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
5000 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217
USA
Tel. No. 268-8880
Fax. No. 268-3348
e-mail: sl2k@andrew.cmu.edu


Permanent Address in Thailand:

Center of Operation for FIeld roBOtics Development(FIBO)
King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Thonburi
91 Suksawasd 48  Ratburana  Bangmod
Bangkok 10140, Thailand

Tel. No. 428-3374, 427-4421 and 4270151-9 Ext. 461
Fax. No. 427-8077, 427-8787

*****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:07:43 -0400 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: [REPOST] part(3): S&T Strategies in Metals/Materials Industry in Thailand

                     3. Machinery Parts and Machinery
 
* Status(weakness & strength)
 
    - Most types of engine parts are now made in Thailand(except
crankshafts, carburettors, ball bearing) but for each particular engine,
most parts are still imported
    - Subcontracting a nd specialization in parts making are growing
    - There are still weak links, e.g. forging and machining
    - Machineries being exported are e.g., plastic blow moulding
machines, tooth paste tube making machine, paper cutting machines,
cassava starch pelltizing machines
 
* Strategy for Development of Existing Industry
    
    - same in metal working
 
* Future Strategic Industry
 
    - More parts to be made to substitute import & to export
    - More sophisticated and precision machinery and eventually high
quality and precision machine tools
    - Cranshaft making
    - Titanium nitride coating
 
* Future Technological Capability Needed
 
    - Acquisitive, operative and adaptive capability in metal and
especially forging
 
* Strategy to Develop Future Capability
 
    - Same as in metal working
 
* Policy Recommendations
 
    - Same as in metal working
 
=============================================================================
Part (4) is about ceramic(classical).....to be continued......in this net.


Schitt(DJ)  Laowattana

****************************************************************************
Current Address in USA:

Department of Mechanical Engineering
Carnegie Mellon University
5000 Forbes Ave.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217
USA
Tel. No. 268-8880
Fax. No. 268-3348
e-mail: sl2k@andrew.cmu.edu


Permanent Address in Thailand:

Center of Operation for FIeld roBOtics Development(FIBO)
King Mongkut's Institute of Technology Thonburi
91 Suksawasd 48  Ratburana  Bangmod
Bangkok 10140, Thailand

Tel. No. 428-3374, 427-4421 and 4270151-9 Ext. 461
Fax. No. 427-8077, 427-8787

*****************************************************************************
From: mmeyer@m2.dseg.ti.com (Mark Meyer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: cuw152.zip 1 of 13
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:32:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: m2.MMEYER.92Sep4103230
Organization: TI DSEG, Spring Creek, Plano, Tx.

In article <92236.102326U45923@uicvm.uic.edu> Arnatt Klinsong <U45923@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> Special thank to Voradesh Yenbut who keep a Thai ftp site
> june.cs.washington.edu. who sent me his site address. I
> will look into the site ASAP.

	I can't ftp from here.  Is there some way I can get to a Thai
archive by mail, like I can get to Simtel?

-- 
Mark Meyer                                               | mmeyer@dseg.ti.com |
Texas Instruments, Inc.                                  +--------------------+
Every day, Jerry Junkins is grateful that I don't speak for TI.
                 "When Hell freezes over and I'm invited to the skating party."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: runj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ranjan Linde Sinha)
Subject: Re: Korean Air (was cheap airfares to Asia)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 19:15:15 GMT

 therese@crchh588.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Therese McCarthy) writes:
> 
> >Has anyone ever flew Korean Airlines?  I agree that their prices are much
> >cheaper than other airlines, but my travel agent discouraged me from using
> >them because she said they were like 'cattle cars'.  I don't want to spend
> >12+ hours flying uncomfortably....if anyone can confirm or deny this I would
> >appreciate it!

I just returned from Bangkok to LA on Korean Air on Aug 31.  
They have cheap fares (mine was 838 roundtrip from San Fran)
but the service is as good as any other airline I've been on.
It was not overcrowded at all--there were even spare seats where
those who were quick to act got to lie down.  The movies were 
US films, relatively recent, and the food was, well, airline
food--but ok.
From: deviant@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Need Thai word for goddess.
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:03:58 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

Sawatdii,

I'd like to know the Thai word for 'goddess' or something equivolent to it 
(also the Northern Thai if anyone knows it).  If you could, romanized 
characters are fine, I can then find it in my Mary Haas dictionary and get 
the correct Thai letters and tones.  I just need to be able to get a ruff 
estimation of it's pronunciation in order to look it up.

Please either post or send e-mail.

Jeff Sickel
-- 

ala the Deviant@Yang.Earlham.Edu
   "You think you are ever so cleaver, however, you won't trap me there.
     Its turtles all the way down."
From: cooneys@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Will the next elections be different?
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:21:25 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

[The following is from _The Economist_ of August 22nd. It may interest
many on this list. I think it gives some flesh and blood substance
to the notion of "corruption" and makes it easier to understand how
voters might well continue to support a candidate whom liberals in
Bangkok might deplore.]

					Suphan Buri

If it is true, as some optimists believe, that Thai politics is
changing, there is little evidence of it in Suphan Buri, a country 
town north-west of Bnagkok. This is the constituency of a former 
government minister, Banharn Silapa-aracha.

Mr Banharn has held numerous portfolios: agriculture, communications,
industry, finance, among others. His party, Chart Thai, epitomises
the style of Thia politics that reformers want to change. It is 
opportunist and has links with the army. It tried hard to preserve
the disgraced government of General Suchinda Kraprayoon, whose
short term of office ended when more than 40 pro-democracy demon-
strators were shot dead in Bangkok in May.

In Suphan Buri, though, no blame attaches to Mr Banhard. In the 
general election last March, he received more votes thatn any
other politician. In the general election on September 13th there
seems no reason why he should not again do well. Manas Ophakul,
editor of the local newspaper for the past 30 years, says he
cannot even remember the names of rival candidates running for
election in the constituency.

What he remembers are the roads built in the constituency, the 
street lighting, the water supply, the hospital and the six schools,
all credited to Mr Banharn. Mr Banharn's latest contribution to 
local amenities is a leisure centre with restaurant and swimming
pool. "People come from neighbouring provinces and say that they
want their member of parliament to be like Banharn," says Mr
Ophakul.

This is hardly what pro-democracy campaigners want to hear. But
as the election draws nearer the impact of May's events on voters'
choices appears to be blunted by local influences. Parties distribute
bribes through village headmen and community leaders. Villagers in
the north-east have been receiving anonymous gifts of lamps, fuel,
fertilisers and bottles of fish sauce. They expect the name of their
benefactor to be whispered before the poll. Some candidates in the
March election spent around $400,000 to win a seat. According to
officials in "Poll Watch", set up to chekc on election fraud, the
same sort of money is being spent this time.

Some things have changed. Non-party organizations, doctors, celebri-
ties, even bankers are trying to persuade Thais to take more care 
about whom they vote for. This and the events of May should at
least raise the turnout. But it will take more than one campaign
to change the time-tested ways of Thai politics.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: 21602CR@MSU
Subject: Thai National Dance Troup in the U.S.?
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: 31 Aug 1992 08:37:43 EDT


My wife just read in one of her Thai magazines (Dee-chan) that the Thai
National Dance troupe is beginning a 1-year tour.  I understand that this
is the same group that will be performing in Washington, D.C. on 9/26.

Can anyone verify this information for me?  If it's true, does anyone know
if this group will be coming to the midwest? (Chicago/Detroit area)

Many thanks,

Christopher B. Reznich
Office of Medical Education
   Research and Development
Michigan State University
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Subject: Re: 2 cents worth opinions on S&TD in Thailand 
Organization: Institute for Computational Mechanics in Propulsion
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 02:27:34 GMT

In article <gedCvne00WBMI3oCMM@andrew.cmu.edu> 
Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>    I got this message from  Dr. Somnuk  Srivisarn (M.D), a Co-Founder
>...................X

>knowledge of Turbine technologies are not as attractive as being able to
>manufature a generator. .............X


I think electric motor and generator are commercially avialable in
Thailand (all parts made in Thailand) long time ago. Some mom&
pop shops in rural Thailand can recoil motor&generator wire 
on a routine basis. The turbine part, IMO, is much more difficult
if we want to get high efficiency out of it. NASA has invested
billions of dollars over the past 50 years just for that purpose.

I agree that self-sufficient is very important. How much is
sufficient, however, is another matter :-)

I has long been an 'energy' nut myself. I used to posted long time
ago that our national development plan seems to fail to address
the national energy policy. Energy is the backbone of modern
living. It is the most important thing there is. Without it,
modern civilization as we know it would come to a complete halt.

Third grade common sense is all that is required to realize that
renewable energy source is the way to go. I do not believe that
fusion technology will come to save humankinds at a free cost.

I propose that a ministry-level organization be actualized to 
pursue the matter. This org would do both the administrative work,
planning and research into energy technology and application.
All forms of renewable energy sources should be looked at:
solar, wind, wave, geothermal, even how to convert human energy
more efficiently (bicycle is the most prominent example.)
(even bullshit and trash should be looked at :-)

30 years ago, if you sit on a train running through the rice
field of Chacherngsoa, you'll see lots of windmills churning
water into the field. Nowadays, all you see are Kubota pumps
cranking noisily. We need to re-evaluate the Nature and learn
how to coexist with her peacefully. Evironment awareness has
now become a fad the world over. This is a damn good fad; I hope
it'll stick. Before flaming me, please do understand that I'm
not suggesting that we go back to the dark age doing nothing
but sitting cross-legged in the lotus position, meditating about
the lofty nirvana.

-Tawit

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Help save planet earth, dispose your ignorance properly.
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Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 23 Aug 1992 11:57:15 CDT
From: Arnatt Klinsong <U45923@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: cuw152.zip last note

I have trouble posting these files. If these files do not work
please let me know. I will try again.
.
Also does anyone know of a program that does automatic posting
of files like these, to work on a CMS machine.
.
Thank you
Arnatt  u45923@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: fstawit@ICOMP01.LERC.NASA.GOV (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Subject: Naming Convention in Thailand
Originator: daemon@Condor.mcs.kent.edu
Organization: Kent Gateway
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:58:32 GMT


Hi,

I would like to thank the people from Thailand again for their
attempt in informing all of us about the political development
in Thailand. Does this mean we now have a 'regular' connection
to Thailand? Are all the posts in SCT automatically posted in
Thailand now?

I would also like to poke my nose into the business of 'naming'
in Thailand. I notice that posters from Thailand have 'rank'
associated with 'name', e.g., Dr., M.S. What is the rational
behind this?, Neo-caste system? I've never seen rank being
prefixed to a name in all the USENET news I read. If we want
to play their game, might as well adopt their rules. Sorry, for
my bluntness. I hope this doesn't make you (in Thailand) all mad
so as to stop sending us all the goodies to read. :-)

-Tawit, Ph.D. --> Puad'Head' Dag^

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How many light bulbs does it take to change a man?
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From: wila@seashell.seas.ucla.edu (Wilasinee Chunbomrung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Thai National Dance Troup in the U.S.?
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:24:31 GMT
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <1992Aug31.124059.14479@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 21602CR@MSU writes:
>
>My wife just read in one of her Thai magazines (Dee-chan) that the Thai
>National Dance troupe is beginning a 1-year tour.  I understand that this
>is the same group that will be performing in Washington, D.C. on 9/26.
>
>Can anyone verify this information for me?  If it's true, does anyone know
>if this group will be coming to the midwest? (Chicago/Detroit area)

Sawasdee kha,

Who is the Thai National Dance troupe?  Are they professionals?  Has
anyone seen them and would like to comment on their performances?

If someone can let me know if they will be coming to the So CA area,
I would appreciate it very much.

Thank you.

-Wila
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From: emaruchi@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: RE: Honorable Attitude? (was Re: US born kids in s.c.taiwan)
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:00:15 GMT

To help Thailand, it doesn't mean that we must go back home and work in
Thailand.  For example, the Seri Thai Party during World War 2.  Had they
gone back to Thailand that time, they would not have done the great thing
as we know it today.  Besides, going back home means we have to occupy job
positions, giving less chance for other Thais to find their jobs.  So it
depends.