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From: xyang@ACS.UCALGARY.CA
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Subject: Re: cotact Nifty through internet
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:28:09 GMT
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Hi, I read a message from jeffmu mentioned that it is possible to
send a mail to Nifty from compuserve, I just wondering is it
possible to send a mail to Nifty from our internet? If anybody
know the way, please give me (us) a help, Thank you in advance.
X. Jie
From: Peter.Weekes@BBS.ACTRIX.GEN.NZ
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Subject: Re: IBM Japanese Programs
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:07:21 GMT
Distribution: fj

Hi Ken, if you find some kind of flash card program, I'd be very keen to get a
copy too. BTW, where is Fussa ?

Thanks,

Peter
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From: lisota@CAE.WISC.EDU
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Subject: Re: intensive summer course in Japan
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:43:39 GMT
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>
> Let me add this infomation:
>
> Hokkaido Summer Program (in Hakodate)
>
> Contact:
> The Hokkaido Foundation
> 17133 Nanette Street
> Granada Hills, CA 91344
> Ph. 818-368-8935
>
I was in this program this past summer, so I can answer any questions that
people might have.  All in all, it was a very good program, especially the
homestay!

Kevin


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From: shibata@JOKE.CL.NEC.CO.jp
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Subject: Re: intensive summer course in Japan
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:38:41 GMT
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>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:21:00 CST, John Kapson <jkapson@NIS.NAITC.COM> said:

>> Hokkaido Summer Program (in Hakodate)

hi netters,

as a japanese native born and brought up in Hokkaido area, Kushiro
city in precise, I wonder how Japanese learners found Hokkaido
dialect.

I imagine some guys who actually visited Hokkaido are noticed the
differences between "text book Japanese" and the dialect. As for
the dialects in Japan, I'd like to know how much is taught/described
in the standard(if any) Japanese text books....

Naoki.

PS. Does anyone over the net know the Victor Kang's, who once was a
quite frequent poster in this list, latest address?
From: 1N2QLRES%UKANVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Nihongo List
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:26:11 GMT
Distribution: fj

I would like to subscribe to the "Nihongo" list.  Could you send me some
info?  Thanks.
From: OGAWAJ@ACFCLUSTER.NYU.EDU
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Subject: JEI
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:23:26 GMT
Distribution: fj

I am a students of NYU. I study teaching Japanese to non Japanese speakers.
I have heard about JEI progrum, if somebody know about this program
please  let me know.
My adress is
IN%"ogawaj@acfcluster.NYU.EDU"
Thanks
from Jyunko Ogawa
From: stueber@VAX.MPIZ-KOELN.MPG.DBP.DE
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Subject: nihongo on a SUN sparcstation IPC?
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:00:55 GMT
Distribution: fj

Minasan,

I would like to install some PD japanese software on a SUN
SparcStation IPC and would be grateful for some help by someone
having experience with Japanese TeX and/or other editors

Kurt

Tel.:+49-221-5062537

Max-Planck-Institute fuer Zuechtungsforschung
Carl von Linne Weg 10
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Germany
From: 601664@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA
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Subject: Re: JEI
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:33:11 GMT
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ogawaJ:

      i am sorry.., i don't know anything about JEI, but i have heard of
JET, and something about the kanji thing....:)
      i just got your mail....so, i suppose you are on board...:)
      i have a question to ask you...:)

      do you know how to use "telnet" commands?????

                                              bye
                                                 pang
From: SASAKI%RHODES.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
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Subject: JET Program-Counselor of International Relations (CIR)
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:16:13 GMT
Distribution: fj

Dear networkers,

A student of mine in my 3rd Japanese class is interested in applying for the
JET program. He is particularly interested in the Counselor of International
Relations, because it will probably give him better chances of speaking
Japanes rather ambiguous, and he wants to learn what will exactly happen once
he starts his duties. Please respond to him directly, or maybe you can
make your response public on the network. His e-mail address is:

sumrb@rhodes.bitnet


His message follows:

**********************************************************

My name is Britt Summers, and I am a senior at Rhodes College in Memphis.
The JET program has been brought to my attention, and because of my interest
in Japanese language and culture I am interested in this. If possible,
could you please give me an idea of the level Japanese proficiency
required for this type position.

                                                Thank you
From: ucc02aa@SUN3.LRZ-MUENCHEN.DE
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re:  Japanese / Windows info needed
Date: 8 Nov 92 14:14:15 GMT
Distribution: fj

I am interested in this subject too, especially in the possibility
for using such fonts directly for \TeX under Windows.  We just
had a seminar on this in Muenchen, see alt.chinese.text
newsgroup
From: JFT%NCCIBM1.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
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Subject: Re: Intensive Summer Programs In Japan
Date: 4 Nov 92 19:44:43 GMT
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Hi Vittorio,

  Where do I sign up for your school?  I want some of that
DOD money!  :-)

John.
From: cmr@WORLD.STD.COM
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Blank Spaces
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:30:56 GMT
Distribution: fj

On Sun, 8 Nov 1992, Pilch wrote:

> Maybe we could take this discussion one step further.
> Our alphabetical writing too lacks proper block delimiters which are
> quite basic for any computer language.  Compare e.g.
>
>   I gave the lecture Chinese for beginners at Muenchen university.
>   I gave the lecture (Chinese for beginners) (at Muenchen university)
>   I gave the lecture Chinese (for beginners) (at Muenchen university)
>   I gave the lecutre (Chinese) for (beginners at Muenchen university).
>

It is my understanding that the first sentence above is incorrect. It
requires delimiters to avoid having multiple and incompatible objects,
as well as to allow the modifying phrase to be identified properly.
Starting with the second example:

   I gave the lecture , Chinese for beginners , at Muenchen university.
   I gave the lecture , Chinese (for beginners) , at Muenchen university.
   I gave the lecture , Chinese , for beginners at Muenchen university.

Perhaps some teachers of English grammar will elaborate and/or correct my
usage.

Charlie  (-:


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From: SASAKI%RHODES.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: intensive summer course in Japan
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:46:10 GMT
Distribution: fj

Let me add this infomation:

Hokkaido Summer Program (in Hakodate)

Contact:
The Hokkaido Foundation
17133 Nanette Street
Granada Hills, CA 91344
Ph. 818-368-8935
From: 374ossdow@YOKOTA-EMH.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: IBM Japanese Programs
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:10:53 GMT
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                   I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:      5-Nov-1992 10:06am JST
                                        From:      Maj Waters
                                                   374OSSDOW
                                        Dept:
                                        Tel No:    225-8417

TO:  Remote Addressee                     ( _NIHONGO@MITVMA.MIT.EDU )


Subject: IBM Japanese Programs

>Subject: Lack of Software for IBM..
>   Would anyone know of any public domain/shareware packages for
>Japanese language instruction, specifically a Kanji "drill" type of
>program?  Any information would be greatly appreciated!! :)

   I would direct you to the SIMTEL system (or one of its mirrors) where you
will find a Kanji flashcard program.  I'm not sure I remember where it was
but it is under the MSDOS section and the "language tools" subsection (sorry,
don't remember the exact name of it).  File is called something like KANJI1.ZIP
and has a display driver built in with something like the first 250 Kanji.
Unfortunately, there are not more Kanji included.  I have run the program
and it steps through the normal JME sequence and includes both readings for
each character, the English meaning and usually three example compounds.
It's VERY similar to the method the Tuttle book "A Guide to Reading & Writing
Japanese" uses.  Let me know if you need more information on how to find
this program and I will be happy to help you.

       Ken

---------------------
Ken Waters    USAF, Maj, Staff Weather Officer, Yokota AB, Japan (Fussa-shi)
Internet:  DET15WX@osan-emh.af.mil     or  374OSSDOW@yokota-emh.af.mil
Compuserve: 73307,131 (checked once a yr!)       N4PBY/HL9PIT/J71???
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From: sdwyer@AGSM.UCLA.EDU
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Subject: Re: Blank Spaces
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:46:04 GMT
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>    I gave the lecture , Chinese for beginners , at Muenchen university.
>    I gave the lecture , Chinese (for beginners) , at Muenchen university.
>    I gave the lecture , Chinese , for beginners at Muenchen university.

I am not an expert either, but it is my understanding that the above
commas must be omitted because the clause is dependent.  To clarify, it
might be better to include quotes around the lecture title both in the
English and Japanese versions.
From: 374ossdow@YOKOTA-EMH.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: RE: IBM Japanese Programs
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:20:20 GMT
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                   I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:      7-Nov-1992 11:15am JST
                                        From:      Maj Waters
                                                   374OSSDOW
                                        Dept:
                                        Tel No:    225-8417

TO:  Remote Addressee                     ( _NIHONGO@MITVMA.MIT.EDU )


Subject: RE: IBM Japanese Programs

Z130000<Z130%SETONMUS.BITNET>, Al asked about Kanji flash card programs...

Al,
   No, that's all I know about.  If you find something then please let
me know!
     Ken
---------------------
Ken Waters    USAF, Maj, Staff Weather Officer, Yokota AB, Japan (Fussa-shi)
Internet:  DET15WX@osan-emh.af.mil     or  374OSSDOW@yokota-emh.af.mil
Compuserve: 73307,131 (checked once a yr!)       N4PBY/HL9PIT/J71???
---------------------
From: Z130%SETONMUS.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
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Subject: (none)
Date: 4 Nov 92 19:25:31 GMT
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SET NIHONGO ACK
From: gabilin@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU
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Subject: RE: kanji of the day ?42
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:08:07 GMT
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sign me off from the mailing list
thank u!
From: ucc02aa@SUN3.LRZ-MUENCHEN.DE
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: Blank Spaces
Date: 8 Nov 92 14:14:39 GMT
Distribution: fj

Maybe we could take this discussion one step further.
Our alphabetical writing too lacks proper block delimiters which are
quite basic for any computer language.  Compare e.g.

  I gave the lecture Chinese for beginners at Muenchen university.
  I gave the lecture (Chinese for beginners) (at Muenchen university)
  I gave the lecture Chinese (for beginners) (at Muenchen university)
  I gave the lecutre (Chinese) for (beginners at Muenchen university).

Often more complicated examples can occur.  But our unlogical mind
prevents any delimiter-pair () [] <> or whatever from functioning, because
we always attribute delimiters some extra meaning like commentary, footnote,
optional or so.  Therefore our writing becomes very complicated.  But
probably very few readers would agree with me, that we should have an
orthography, in which "( )" is a pure delimiter used in the way above.
That is, because we can get away without this rule and people hate
progress if they are not forced into it by some shortterm material
incentive.  Not only the Japanese behave this way.  If people weren't
like that we would be speaking Esperanto here since long ago.
From: medcm529@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.nihongo
Subject: Re: intensive summer course in Japan
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:35:41 GMT
Distribution: fj

I was in the Hakodate program 2 years ago.  What family
did you stay with??

Andy Kogelnik
kogelnik@u1.cc.emory.edu
From: dr@ITE.OTA.GOV
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Subject: Intensive Summer Programs In Japan
Date: 4 Nov 92 19:33:58 GMT
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The Inter-University Center in Yokohama has a summer program; Stanford's
Asian language department, among others, can give you information
From: 601664@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA
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Subject: Re: Nihongo List
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:03:51 GMT
Distribution: fj

hi there yukihiro :)

            try sending the following..:

      tell listserv at mitvma sub nihongo (your name)

       hope you get in..:)

       bye
                                                           pang
From: Z130%SETONMUS.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
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Subject: IBM Japanese Programs
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:02:42 GMT
Distribution: fj

Ken...
 Thanks for the suggestion, but believe it or not, I have already tried
that one out!  You're right, though, only the first 250 characters.
Unfortunately for me, Im going for atleast 2,000, and at this point I
pretty much know most of the basic 200 or so.  Any more ideas?? :)

 Al...
From: vm15+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU
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Subject: Intensive Summer Programs In Japan
Date: 4 Nov 92 19:06:27 GMT
Distribution: fj

Lately, you have been talking about Intensive Japanese Langauge programs
offered in US.

Does anyone know of something similar, both at low and intermediate
level offered this summer in Japan?

The cost, luckily, is not an issue as my school has just received a
grant from DOD to support this kind of activty.

Thanks

Vittorio Mischi

Treasurer of the Japan US Business Association
(a student group at the Graduate School of industrial Administration at
the Carnegie Mellon University).
From: Z130%SETONMUS.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
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Subject: Sophia University Program...
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:15:47 GMT
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 I hope to take part in a 6 week summer exchange program at Sophia
University in Tokyo the summer after next.  I go to Seton Hall, and
luckily for me my school has a special program with Sophia where a
students are sent from each country to each other's school.  The great
part of it is that the schools PAY FOR THE CREDITS & ROOM AND BOARD.
So whats the catch?  You have to buy your own ticket and pay for food
and other living expenses, but when you consider that you're taking
6 credits in six weeks, that would cost me easily $2,000 for the two
classes, whereas I've heard that one can take part in the program for
about $1,500-$1,700.  Not too bad, since you're getting overseas exp.
and the credits don't affect your GPA.  Japan here I come!


Al..
From: schung@KILROY.JPL.NASA.GOV
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Subject: Re: IBM Japanese Programs
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:06:53 GMT
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Also try sending mail to Mike Erickson (mikee@hp.gr.com)

He has written one.

Cheers
  Stephen
From: ajsda01@MAILSERV.ZDV.UNI-TUEBINGEN.DE
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Subject: FAX-number of KANJI LIST DA 0.59 searched
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:13:18 GMT
Distribution: fj

Dear Neters
to clarify a license-question for a CD-ROM project of
Wolfgang Hadamitzky, I urgently need the FAX-number (or
maybe CompuServe-number if the searched person is taking
use of it) from the

Author of KANJI-DA version 0.59 (or higher)
Mr Yagishita NIFTY PAG01247.

Since he is in NiftyServe, there is a slight chance,
that he is reading his CompuServe mailbox, too. So, if
anyone knows his FAX-number (or CompuServe), I would be
very grateful


Thanks in advance

Rainer
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From: netcomsv!netcom.com!hbo@decwrl.dec.com  (Howard Owen)
Subject: HD on DN3000?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: fj
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:16:37 GMT
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   I purchased an Apollo DN3000 sometime ago. It has what looks like an ST506 
standard full height 5.25" disk drive in it. I beleive its capacity is ~170MB. 
Can anyone take a guess as to what this drive is? Does anyone know the detailed
geometry so I can move it to another system?

Thanks,



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From: mcsun!dxcern!vxcrna.cern.ch!roeber@uunet.uu.net
Subject: DM vs. xterm
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:37:07 GMT
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In article <1992Nov9.192837.17737@bcars6a8.bnr.ca>, djf@bnr.ca (Duane Fowler) writes:
> [...] I'm interested in knowing what people see in Domain pads, editor,
> etc.  Sure the ability to search back through the pads was nice, but the 
> functionality exists with Xterms -  just not as gracefully.

Well, for two: the fact that lines extend off the sides (instead of 
wrapping), and you can scroll sideways; and the multi-line input
window that can be easily held and edited.

This latter can't be done in "normal" unix (as HP's DM-lite shows),
because the pty devices used lack a way having the master measure
how much input the child has read.

The ease of the univeral editor could be provided if somebody wrote
a callable editor object that could easily be used in programs.
Perhaps epoch plus the emacs-client stuff could do it.

I, too, wish the DM had a complete language, and compared to today's
window manager/session manager/process manager sets, it's pretty limited.

On the other hand, it doesn't need a shelf full of O'Reilly's to document!

(PS: How do you get infinite scrollback in an xterm?)

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From: sdd.hp.com!apollo.hp.com!hpwin052!peterb@hplabs.hpl.hp.com  (Peter Baumann)
Subject: Domain/OS Calls
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:48:17 GMT
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Problem Description:
Wo would like to use the Domain/OS systems calls ios_$import and ios_$export to pass file descriptors between processes. Howewer, the Domain/OS Call Reference manuals do not adequately describe these calls. Is somebody out there who used
once these calls ???

Thanks for any reply !!

Peter Baumann HP Widen APOLLO-SUPPORT .
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From: mcsun!dxcern!vxcrna.cern.ch!roeber@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: Passing C/Fortran routines as Arguments
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Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 11:24:52 GMT
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In article <1992Nov7.133608.12214@dxcern.cern.ch>, burow@dxcern.cern.ch (Burkhard Burow) writes:
> 
> I'd like to pass routines as arguments between C and Fortran, but don't seem to
> be able to find any documentation on it in the Domain C (or Fortran) Language
> Reference.
> 
> e.g.
> cm.c:   void a_() {return;}         fm.f:       subroutine a
>                                                 return
>                                                 end
> 
>         main() { b_(a_); }                      external a,b
>                                                 call b(a)
>                                                 end
> 
> c.c:    void b_(void f()) {f();}    f.f:        subroutine b(f)
>                                                 external f
>                                                 call f
>                                                 return
>                                                 end

You need one more level of indirection to make the Fortran happy:
cm.c:   void a_() {return;}
        static void (*ap)() = a_; /* pointer to the function */

        main() { b_(&ap); } /* passing a pointer-to-pointer-to-fn */

c.c:    void b_(void (**f)()) {(**f)();}

In cm.c you can't just go "main(){b_(&a_);}," because the c compiler
treats &a_ as the same as a_.  That's also why you need two splats
each in c.c.

Also, look into receiving parameters with the "&" qualifier, this
is an extension borrowed from C++ which specifies that the parameter
is implicitly passed by reference, like Fortran and Pascal.  Most
of the Apollo system calls are prototyped with it.

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