From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: Motives (was Re: The origin of AIDS)
Date: 22 Nov 92 10:44:45
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In-reply-to: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU's message of 20 Nov 92 12:41:30 GMT

bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
|isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
|>bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
|>|isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
|>|>How's this:  I'll bet all you smart people can come up with five
|>|>reasons why someone would try to create or distribute this disease.
|>
|>|I notice, however, that *you* are unable to come with
|>|a single one.
|>
|>No, you noticed that *I* did not list any.  This does not mean that I
|>cannot come up with any or that I have not come up with any.  I'm
|>sure, upon reflection, that you will see the difference.  
|>
|>In fact, coming up with reasons aren't too difficult.  One only has to
|>explain the behaviour of participants in the Tuskegee Experiment, the
|>gassing of kurds, the cleansing of "inferior" tribes in former
|>Yugoslavia, the herding and systemic killing of Native Americans, the
|>SS and any of a number of such events.  No matter what side of the
|>Aids Conspiracy Theory(tm) you land on (or if you don't really care,
|>like me), there is hardly a dearth of precedents for abominations.

|And yet, when directly challenged to list some motivations (a challenge
|you set for yourself, I might add), you list a bunch of previous
|abominations and somehow expect that to prove your case.

I haven't listed anything because I want to hear others do it first.
Geez, is this so hard?  I'm more interested in the contradiction of
the assertion of no possible motivation and the existence of even more
evil events, than I am in the particulars of any motivation.  As such,
I'd rather others deal with the contradictions.  The challenge is
merely a means to this end, not an end in and of itself.

My "case" is that one can come up with motivations.  This is obviously
true because there must have been some motivation for these other
abominations.  Do you disagree with this?  How would you explain these
other events?  Can you come up with motivations for them?

|Your post doesn't address the one issue it purports to address - what
|is the supposed rationale for the invention/distribution of the AIDS
|virus?

Sure it does.

I just find it hard to believe that no one can come up with reasons
why someone would do this in light of the many other similar events in
our recent history *unless* one says, "well, I can't come up with
reasons for these other bad things that happened."

If you can't come up with reasons for other bad things, then you do
not have the imagination to do the same for an Aids Conspiracy(tm).
If you can, then you should be able to come up with reasons for an
Aids Conspiracy(tm).

Which camp do you fall in?

What is your point?  That there can be no motivation for this newest
conspiracy?  If so, then you must have explanations for these other
things.  If not, then my point is immediately shown to be valid
(obviously).






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