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From: bmich@cs.utexas.edu (Brian Keith Michalk)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: straighter flying paintballs
Date: 15 Sep 1992 09:26:34 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
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In article <wb9omc.716496038@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu> wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick) writes:

>I have been fond of using a small tupperware-type container which includes
>a dessicant pack to tumble paintballs briefly before each game.  So
>far I have been doing this by hand while I collect the parts to build a
>12Volt tumbler.  Using a nice gel-cell battery it should work well
>at the field.  Some people say its bullshit, but I am pretty sure I
>get fewer "screwballs" and more straight shots doing this.....
>
>
Hmmmm.  I think I have enough parts to make my own tumbler, but I was wondering
how long do you think it would be safe to tumble the balls?  I have a motor
that is geard down to 24 rpms.  Do you think it would be safe to leave them
in a tumbler that fast overnight?

Also a friend of mine was telling me of large bore paintballs.  I saw 
him shoot a few rounds and they seemed to be very accurate.  Have you heard 
anything about this?

One other thing, I just bought a 16 barrel for my gun hoping it would
improve accuracy, but I haven't seen any real advantage.  I'm thinking 
about honing the end of it so it has a slight taper to it.  I suppose
a lot like a muzzle break.  Does anyone know of some fairly easy mods
that work well?
From: Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Todd Looney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Paintball players arrested
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:31:14 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/27 - Int'l Public Emerge, San Jose CA

Hello Martin!

 MAB> - Are paintball guns (legally) treated as weapons or toys in your
 MAB>   country?

The only things illegal about them in the US are carrying them charged and loaded in your car to/from playing.  You have to remove the CO2 form it and they are legal and safe to transport.  Other than that I don't know of anything (aside from illegal himeade silencers which fall into a different catagory)

Todd

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From: javirtan@vipunen.hut.fi (Jukka A Virtanen)
Subject: Re: winter games
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:31:50 GMT

In <1992Sep10.130522.24593@bmw.mayo.edu> stan@sabaac.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Andrew Staniszewski) writes:

>does anyone out there have experience with winter games??
>are there any special problems with the paint, etc in winter conditions?

I have played quite a few times in the winter, and have had no problems
with my gun (PMI-3) or any other gear. Nor have my teammates with their
guns (PMI3, Phantom, Devastator, PMI1...). It has been as cold as -10'
Celsius and there has been a lot of snow (it sure is tough to run in
snow when it's up to your thighs), but the guns work fine and the paint
won't freeze.
 
There is one problem though: In cold weather, the CO2-tank freezes down
very easily. This will lead to the air growing denser in the tank, and
eventually you will run out of air quicker. Sustained firing is thus not
recommended. Using a 3.5 oz tank, you might not be able to shoot more
than 70-90 rounds without a refill. This can be prevented by shooting
less at a time and keeping the gun in a warm place when not using it.
 
There have been quite different kind of experiences concerning this
subject. I wonder if air humidity could make a difference?
 
 
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From: blatter@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin A. Blatter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Paintball players arrested
Keywords: police, legal, illegal
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:11:22 GMT
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science

Thanks to all the helpful netters who responded to my article through 
e-mail or net news. It turned ou that the legal situation seems to be 
quite similar in most states of the U.S., Germany and Switzerland.

In article <1992Sep4.010844.6835@hsv3.lsil.com> richhg@hsv3.lsil.com (Rich Henderson-Gragg) writes:
>in an article blatter@ifi.unizh.ch (Martin A. Blatter) writes:
>>- Is Switzerland the only country in the world disallowing paintball
>>  games? How is the legal situation in other countries?
>>[...]
>      There are many countries where paintball is not legal.  In the US
>   it is generally legal with some restrictions.  From the first
>   paragraph I infer that the people were not playing on an established
>   field and probably didn't have the owners permission to be playing.
>   Here in the state of Calif USA you could easily find yourself 
>   surrounded by police in full riot gear if you did this. 

That's the point. They were apparently playing on public ground and
didn't have the permission to play there...bad luck...

>   Our sport looks VERY menacing(sp) to the uninitiated.

And since it is not very well known to the public (at least here
in Switzerland) most people think that we are terrorists or 
at least very dangerous individuals ;-)

>      The IPPA (Internatinal Paintball Players Assoc.) does try to
>   provide some assistance in these matters.  
>            Info on IPPA above from pg 52 of "Paint Check" mag Sept-91

It's probably a FAQ but do you happen to know how people from overseas
can get a member of the IPPA? (I assume that only members of the IPPA
get assistance).

--Martin
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Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: cal@ee.ryerson.ca (Calvin Henry-Cotnam)
Subject: Re: Amtrack seat assignments
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, Toronto
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:28:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.141536.28627@samba.oit.unc.edu> Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen) writes:
>
>Amtrak and Via ought to allow passengers travelling with small children
>boarding a train at the station where the train originates to get on first.
>This is routine in the airline industry, where the practice is known as
>"pre-boarding".
>

Via has been known to do this, at least I can say this for sure at Ottawa.

My wife, son (3 years old), and I went for a day's trip to Ottawa
on Via travelling coach.  There is special pre-boarding for those
travelling VIA1 (first class service), but as we entered the station
about 15 minutes before departure time, we saw a long line of people
and knew we were to wait there.  No sooner did we get to the end of
the line when a Via employee approached us and asked if we were all
travelling on that train (a fair number of people in the line were
just well-wishers).  When we said yes, he lead us on past the line
to the boarding gate.

I didn't realize that this was done as we boarded in the morning
at Guildwood, the suburban station east of Toronto.

Now, on the other side of the coin, in the summer of 1990 we travelled
to Niagara Falls from Toronto, and there was no such pre-boarding.
Now this train is made up of Amtrak equipment, but from Toronto to
Niagara Falls Ontario, it is run by a Via crew, so technically it
is a Via train for that part of the run.

This leaves me with two possible conclusions:

1) Via recently implemented this.

2) The policy is that of a particular station, not system wide.


Any comments?


Calvin Henry-Cotnam, CATE            |    MY CANADA INCLUDES CANADIANS!
Ryerson Polytechnical Institute      | I would really like this to include
Toronto, Ontario, Canada             | Quebec - but I won't hold my breath.
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: cab@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (carl.a.benevit)
Subject: Re: CSX in Atlanta(kinda long)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:51:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.035245.5150@gw.wmich.edu> 737ochs@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>> Plus those GP39-2's CSX acquired from D&H/Guilford (ex-Reading):
>> 12. D&H/Guilford grey
>> 13. D&H blue & grey "lightning stripe"
>> 14. Reading green and yellow
>I believe there was also a green and yellow lightning stripe, I remember
>seeing it one afternoon(no camera of course)

	?
Reading GP39-2's had yellow stripes on hood nose and hood tail with
green on rest of engine (yellow #'s centered on long hood).

>These (GP39-2)were originally Reading 7400-7419, and then D&H same numbers,

Original Reading #'s 3400-3419, D&H 7400-7419.
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From: eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Donkey
Keywords: Electric Locomotive Switcher Docksider
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 15:12:55 EDT
Followup-To: donkey
Distribution: na
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel) writes:

> This weekend, while trying to catch a freebee at the Cleveland Air Show, I 
> went to an old haunt 
> where I haven't been in years.  The area was Whiskey Island, specifically 
> the C&P Ore Dock yards.  There, sitting quite by itself was a peculiar 
> looking sort of an engine, which appeared to be a third rail electric donkey 
> switcher.  Does anyone have any familiarity with the unit, and can they post 
> the specifics of this engine.  I hope to get a photo, and post it as a GIF.
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> --
> eddie@railnet.nshore.ORG (Eddie Van Huffel)
> Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476


On Labour day, a friend of mine and I went back to the CP Ore docks in 
Cleveland, and took a closer look at the donkey.  It is a 1 truck, narrow 
gauge electric slug with a shanty on the end.  The track is placed between 
two main tracks, and there are retracting levers out the side of the engine 
to push cars around the reverse loop and up to the Hewlett Cranes at the 
dock itself.  It appears that Pennsylvania had 3 of these units placed for 
volume movement of ore cars, during the heyday of American Manufacturing.
We took some photos of the engine, with bad film, and plan to go out there 
for another shooting session with real cameras and film.


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Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476
From: CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CZ94)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Amtrak (and Via) seat assignments
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:36:07 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <1992Sep13.002843.28013@ee.ryerson.ca> cal@ee.ryerson.ca (Calvin Henry-Cotnam) writes:
>In article <1992Sep12.141536.28627@samba.oit.unc.edu> Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen) writes:
>>
>>Amtrak and Via ought to allow passengers travelling with small children
>>boarding a train at the station where the train originates to get on first.
>>This is routine in the airline industry, where the practice is known as
>>"pre-boarding".
>>
>
>Via has been known to do this, at least I can say this for sure at Ottawa.
>
>My wife, son (3 years old), and I went for a day's trip to Ottawa
>on Via travelling coach.  There is special pre-boarding for those
>travelling VIA1 (first class service), but as we entered the station
>about 15 minutes before departure time, we saw a long line of people
>and knew we were to wait there.  No sooner did we get to the end of
>the line when a Via employee approached us and asked if we were all
>travelling on that train (a fair number of people in the line were
>just well-wishers).  When we said yes, he lead us on past the line
>to the boarding gate.
>
>I didn't realize that this was done as we boarded in the morning
>at Guildwood, the suburban station east of Toronto.
>
>Now, on the other side of the coin, in the summer of 1990 we travelled
>to Niagara Falls from Toronto, and there was no such pre-boarding.
>Now this train is made up of Amtrak equipment, but from Toronto to
>Niagara Falls Ontario, it is run by a Via crew, so technically it
>is a Via train for that part of the run.
>
>This leaves me with two possible conclusions:
>
>1) Via recently implemented this.
>
>2) The policy is that of a particular station, not system wide.
>
>
>Any comments?
>
From the current Via timetable (p.8):

"The elderly, passengers with small children and Via 1 (i.e. club
car - T.B.) passengers are encouraged to board trains early at major
stations."

A similar statement has appeared in the timetable since the fall
of 1987.

You may not always get this service unless you ask for it.

On a related topic, I quote from the current issue of "Transport
Action," the newsletter of Transport 2000 Canada:

"At long last VIA has begun the process of selling specifically
reserved seats.  As of July 21, as a test, Nos. 166 & 167 -- the
Toronto-Montreal through trains -- will have available a choice of
forward or rear-facing seats, seats in pairs or in a grouping of
four.  All this will be achieved at the time tickets are bought.
  "VIA is to be commended for this change and we look forward to
a time when all seats in all trains are treated in the same way.
Frankly, the long lineups in main stations, sometimes for up to
two hours, has been a 'bush league' experience for travellers."

Tom Box
CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: CZ94 <CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: Re: RE: Vancouver to Seattle by Amtrak
Organization: McGill University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:11:08 GMT

In article <8353@orbit.cts.com> rambler@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Dan Meyer) writes:
>CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CZ94000) writes:
>>
>>From the Summer 1981 VIA timetable (which also lists Amtrak routes
>>into Canada):
>>
>>0700        Vancouver              2344
>>0724        New Westminster        2313
>>0800 (arr)  Blaine                 2212 (dep)
>>0818 (dep)                         2210 (arr)
>>0845        Bellingham             2145
>>0926        Mt. Vernon-Burlington  2105
>>1020        Everett                2011
>>1045        Edmonds                1947
>>1130        Seattle                1915
>
>This is not a train; it is Amtrak's Thruway service. Probably a 'hound.
>
Please note the date I gave above -- 1981.  I'm pretty sure it was a
train, on the verge of being axed.

Tom Box
CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
From: gurd@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Daffy Duck)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Amtrack seat assignments
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:16:50 GMT
Reply-To: gurd@wam.umd.edu

Nigel Allen writes
> In article <1992Sep7.193557.2155@merrimack.edu> gemmellj@merrimack.edu  
writes:
> >...  On all the times i took Amtrack,
> >it seemed like a zoo when everyone was racing to grap a seat,  
preferably
> >by a window.  
> 
> Amtrak and Via ought to allow passengers travelling with small children
> boarding a train at the station where the train originates to get on  
first.
> This is routine in the airline industry, where the practice is known as
> "pre-boarding".
> 
> --
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>      North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>         Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>            internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

At Amtrak's "flagship" station (Union Station in Washington, D.C.), Amtrak  
does exactly that, allowing senior citiizens, the handicapped, and those  
travelling with small children onto the platform first.  And then letting  
everybody else through the gate about 5 minutes later.
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen)
Subject: Re: Amtrack seat assignments
Organization: NDA
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:15:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.193557.2155@merrimack.edu> gemmellj@merrimack.edu writes:
>...  On all the times i took Amtrack,
>it seemed like a zoo when everyone was racing to grap a seat, preferably
>by a window.  

Amtrak and Via ought to allow passengers travelling with small children
boarding a train at the station where the train originates to get on first.
This is routine in the airline industry, where the practice is known as
"pre-boarding".

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From: pvmason@cco.caltech.edu (Peter V. Mason)
Subject: Re: 200-mile rail network under study in Vermont.
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:50:07 GMT

In article <EMERY.92Sep8165703@Dr_No.mitre.org> emery@Dr_No.mitre.org (David Emery) writes:
>Humh.  I know the route from White River Junction, past Montpelier
>(but not *through* Montpelier, I wrote a paper on that in College), up
>to Burlington.  And I can understand how to get from Burlington to
>Rutland.  But how do we get across the southern part of VT?
>
>				dave

Technically, the Central Vermont doesn't go to Burlington either.
You have to board the train in Essex Junction, which is good deal
further from Burlington than Montpelier Junction is from Montpelier.
I suppose there must be a connection from Vermont Railway (nee 
Rutland Railroad, but I don't know where it is.  
While we're at it I was told several years ago the Vermont Railway
made most of their money running boxcars on other lines.  anybody 
know anything about this?

Peter Mason
Former Vermonter now trapped in California
From: 737ochs@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: CSX in Columbia, SC
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:04:43 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <18jrovINN7r8@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, kwyatt@ccscola.Columbia (Kershner Wyatt) says:
> 
>>Identification please--
>>
>>Lately, there has been a new addition to the normal SD-40-2 traffic running
>>behind my house.  It is on the Columbia, Newberry, and Laurens section of CSX,
>>here in South Carolina.  The unit appears to be a SD-40-2, painted red and
>>medium yellow with the big letters SF.  I have seen it four times
>>now, but never in a position to get a really good look at it.  It sounds in
>>pretty sad shape.  Generally working coal drags, in second or third position,
>>never lead.
>>
>>Ideas?
> 
> Hmmm...that sounds like a unit painted in the SPSF post-merger paint scheme:
> black roof, red and yellow "warbonnet."  Santa Fe's post-merger painted units 
> only had the "SF" painted on them, SP's only had "SP" painted on them.  
> Unfortunately, no SD40-2's survive in this scheme.  The only SF-lettered units
> which survive are the 15 or so C30-7's Santa Fe traded back to GE before they 
> got repainted.  CSX has leased several of these C30's, so if the engine you 
> saw had an 8000 or 8100 class number, that's what it is.  
>   If it really is an SD40-2, I don't know what it is.  SP only had SD40T-2's,
> and Santa Fe's have all been repainted.

I would also guess that it is one of these C30-7's. I have seen several on CSX
up here in Michigan, including one in this "kodachrome"" scheme, or another
name, for SPSF, Shouldn't Paint So Fast ;^)
CSX's SD40-2's are in the 8000 series too, which might confuse you, but on
their tracing sysstem, it would be considered ATSF 8000  rather than CSXT 8000
also, I bet if you had one of the SF units in the lead, the engineer would
clear the signals on the radio saying Santa Fe 8000 or something like that.

Hope this helps ya,
Fred Ochs
From: salfi@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Mike Salfi)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Steam Returns To Ontario
Keywords: Steam, Tottenham, South Simcoe Railroad
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:55:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Imaging Systems Division, NCR Corp, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA

This past weekend was the inagural runs of Steam on the South Simcoe Railway.
It was great, steam, soot, cinders, whistles, chugging and camera's, both
movie and stills. Well over 900 people rode on the two coaches on both Sunday
and Monday. (This is a volunteer organization and they work on the equipment
restoring, readying, etc. on Saturdays) so there is no passanger service on
Saturday) 
BTW, if you are in the area and would like to help, just show up on any
Saturday. Also, for $25.00, you can buy a yearly membership. I don't have
any details on what the membership covers but I have an address if anyone is
interested.
The steam engine is ex CP #136, a 4-4-0, built by Rogers in 1883. They also
have a ten wheeler (# 1057) which they are currently restoring in hopes of
having it in service next year. As I mentioned they now have 2 coaches in
regular service and 9 more to be restored.
The railway is the South Simcoe Railway and is located in Tottenham, which
is about 50 miles north of Toronto. They will be in operation through the
Canadian Thanksgiving weekend (Oct 12th) so get on up there and enjoy the
fun of Steam.

Mike Salfi
From: elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: CSX in Atlanta
Date: 4 Sep 1992 21:17:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema)
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In a previous article, ggg9y@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Garth G. Groff) says:

>CSX QUESTION
>
>MIKE:
>
>You're probably going to get a lot of traffic on this one, but
>I'll take the first shot.  CSX corporation was formed by the
>merger of the Chessie System (C&O, B&O) with the Family Lines
>(Seaboard Coast Line--ex-Seaboard and Atlantic Coast Line--
>plus the Louisville & Nashville, plus a lot of smaller lines
>this system controlled).  It is not uncommon to still see odd
>mixes of their diesels since many older units are running out
>their last miles in pre-merger paint schemes.  Get your pictures
>while you can.


  That's a pretty good summary.  I think Family Lines adopted the name "Seaboard
System" before the final "merger" into CSX (Chessie and Seaboard/Family Lines
were merged long before an engine ever got CSX paint)  The schemes that still
exist on scattered locomotives on the CSX (from what I've seen/heard) are:

1. "Seaboard System"
2. Family Lines
3. L&N
4. SCL
5. Chessie System
6. B&O (One GP30M was recently repainted in the "sunburst" scheme for a 
        historical society...I saw it in Cleveland, OH on 8/20/92)
7. Western Maryland (the one unit still carrying this scheme is reportedly out
                     of service now) 
8. CSX blue and grey (several versions)
9. CSX "stealth"
10. CSX #8 with a yellow nose painted on top of old scheme
11. CSX blue, grey, and yellow "the final (?) version"

Plus those GP39-2's CSX acquired from D&H/Guilford (ex-Reading):

12. D&H/Guilford grey
13. D&H blue & grey "lightning stripe"
14. Reading green and yellow

Quite a circus train if you get the right mix...

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