From: barrus@cod.nosc.mil
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Martin Luther and Famous Ancestors
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:30:53 GMT
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA


In article <C0GDC4.EHH@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> news@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Netnews Admin) writes:
>In article <5035@crl.LABS.TEK.COM> guyc@strl.labs.tek.com (Guy Cherry) writes:
>>My mother's side of the family has a line that goes back to 
>>one of Martin Luther's sisters.  The line looks like this:
>>
>>I have a few questions:
>>
>>1. I used to think this was not so unique - everyone if you go back 10 generations can find
>>someone interesting to be related to.  Now I'm not so sure. How frequent is this kind of
>>lineage? How often are they just made up by someone who found it convenient to be related to
>>someone famous?  What are some good places to start if one wants to verify this lineage?
>
>I think this must be frequent.  What is rare is the availability of data
>to prove it.  Just to take my own case.  I descend from the 3 first
>settlers of Quebec City (Louis Hebert, Guillaume Couillard and Abraham
>Martin).  This is just like an American who have 3 ancestors on the Mayflower.
>But, because most Quebecois descend from some 10000 original settlers,
>it is probable that a lot are also descendants of the same 3 persons.
>The same way, I descend from 11 of 12 couples that have the higher
>number of descendants in 1729.
>
>In other words, in a relatively small country like Quebec or any other
>place with a group of say 5 millions of inhabitants (like Denmark,
>Finland, many other countries), you will connect to most "known"
>persons a few centuries ago.  The same apply to religions I think.
>Or to other social groups where there will be such intra-group marriages
>practice.
>
>If you look in a longer distance, (more generations) you will find more and
>more known persons.  So, I descend from Bude who was a well known
>philosopher circa 1500, and from some famous France's members of Parliaments
>of the same period.  I have also some (still controversed however) links
>to Kings.  One is thru the Stewart-Menteith family with a gap of a few
>generations.  Another is thru the Montmorency family with the Braque
>family claiming descendance from a daughter of one Montmorency, while
>this is not described in the Montmorency official family.  Most people
>will have such lines, providing they find enough data.
>
>If you look in a shorter distance, the great-cousin (or so) of my
>great-grand-father is Wilfrid Laurier, a Canada Prime Minister.
>The cousin of my cousins is Mario Lemieux, the famous hockey player.
>
>Someone said with 5 jumps, you could reach everybody in the world.
>A jump is just a relation.  For example, their is a jump from me
>to you on the net.  Suppose one reader is the cousin of the President
>of USA, then I am 4 jumps from the President.  In genealogy, it is
>the same.  Just that we can go back in years and then connect to a lot
>of persons.
>
>
>>
>>2. Does anyone know who the serious Luther scholars are these days.  Evidently little
>>is known about Luther's (many) siblings and I have found no mention of Christine Luther 
>>in the few biographys in which I have looked.
>>
>>3. What is a "Probst"; is there still a Beverstedt?  
>>
>>3. Of course if anyone recognizes any of the above names write back.  
>>
>>--Guy Cherry
>>--------
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>>Email:	    guyc@crl.labs.tek.com
>>US Mail:    Guy Cherry, Computer Research Lab, Tektronix, Inc.  
>>                Box 500  MS 50-662, Beaverton OR 97077
>>Phone:	    503-627-1123
>
>
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