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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:44:36 EDT
From:         Rita Nagle <MISRAN1@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      San Francisco
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I am going to San Francisco in mid-October.  I know there is alot to
see and do.  I will be staying close to Fisherman's Wharf, and I am
looking forward to seeing Chinatown.  Can anyone recommend good
restaurants and things to do?  I am partial to scenery.

                         Thanks in advance,

                         Rita
                         Bitnet: MISRAN1 @ KENTVM
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From:         "Mary K. Becker" <MKBECK01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Puerto Rico
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Acquisitions Assistant-Kornhauser Library
Phone: 588-5763
I have a friend who is going to Puerto Rico this week - yes, this
week.  She will be going with her boyfriend, who is going on a
business trip, so lodging is taken care of.
Any hints on what she should see, do or avoid?
He will be away during the day, and she'll be left to her own
devices.  Any nightlife suggestions?
Thanks!
Mary K.
MKBECK01@ULKYVM : BITNET
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 92 14:02:00 CDT
From:         Louis Crispino <DEVBLGC@TCSTSO.BITNET>
Subject:      OUTSIDE DENVER CO.
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

I Will be attending a conference next week in Denver. After the
conference ends  Wednesday afternoon, I plan to spend until Sunday
in the area. Can somone suggest places to go and accomodations
outside Denver. I hope to spend somewhat less than the $100.00 per
night conference hotel rate !

I problably won't have a car, so I'd be traveling by Bus. I hear Boulder
and Estes Park are nice. Since it's getting close, I won't have time to
make reservations far in advance, will this be a problem?

Thanks.

Louis Crispino
Tulane Univ.
NOLA
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From:         "Frank (Chip) Dyer x9568 ..Electrical Design"
              <DYERFDF@HSDWL.UTC.COM>
Subject:      Where to go Camping in CT/MA?
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Looking for Camping Spot:
Secluded CT or MA area

My friends & I are looking for a camping spot in CT (or MA).  Specifically,
a secluded area not patrolled by anybody (Rangers or Police) as we tend to
stay up longer than most quiet hours.  We LOVE Mt. Race (MA) but we can
not get a parking spot the weekend we want to go (YMCA).

We would like to park as close as possible to the camp, but we can handle a
relatively short hike.   We would also like to be near a waterfall or
stream.

              Any help or ideas will be greatly appreciated.

Chip

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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 92 09:05:45 +0100
From:         dacier@LAAS.LAAS.FR
Subject:      Re: Nu 2 list
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>To:
>Chantal Payette
>University of Toronto
>Canada

>I was in the other countries too but I did not need the touristinfo
>bureaus in this way. Maybe others will give you that particular
>information.
>Have a nice stay in Europe.

Just a few words about travelling in Europe :
If you are less than 26, you could take a look at the "Interrail Card" wich
gives free access to all trains in every country of Europe
(but don't take "Interrail Plus", allowing Boats also)
If you can read french, take a look at the various "guide du routard" which
is something similar to the "traveller survival kit". It will bring you
into nice places and you'll be sure to meet there other readers of the same
book ... !  :D
If you go to Belgium (not far from London with the jetfoil) do *not* miss
Brugges !
The Netherlands are very nice too ... despite the weather ...  :-)

I'm from Belgium, working at the  moment in the South of France. I have
travelled all around Europe (except UK), so if you have a specific
question, just send me a mail, I'll do my best to answer you (-or anybody
else on the list ...  :-}  )

Marc.
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Laboratoire d'Automatique et d'Analyse des Systemes (L.A.A.S.)
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 92 13:56:38 EDT
From:         HKAPLAN@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: A spare day in San Diego
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Depending on how deep into Mexico you want to go, you may rent a car or you
may take the trolley to the border and walk into Mexico.  I found the trolley
ride (not a long one) fun and much cheaper.  Just get on the line going to
San Ysisdro, the last stop in the U.S. at the border with Tijuana.
In San Diego you have one of the finest zoos around and Sea World is well
worth visiting, too.  None of these require a car.   Enjoy.
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 92 11:38:53 MST
From:         Roger <CARROLL@SCC.BITNET>
Subject:      San Francisco
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

>I am going to San Francisco in mid-October.  I know there is alot to
>see and do.  I will be staying close to Fisherman's Wharf, and I am
>looking forward to seeing Chinatown.  Can anyone recommend good
>restaurants and things to do?  I am partial to scenery.
>^^^^^^^^^^^
>                         Rita

Don't miss eating at SCOMA'S, which is at Fisherman's Wharf.
And, if you have a car, go visit Sterling Vineyards in the Napa Valley.

                                         ---roger
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:55:21 EDT
From:         HGOLDSTE@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Blue Ridge Mountains
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

color peak varies with year but i'd say oct.20 is a good average.
this year is cooler than most and its starting to get real cool
out there ... like freezing ... so we could have a real early peak.
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From: bernd@cc.uow.edu.au (Bernd Wechner)
Subject: Make a friend today, send a postcard to Oz ...
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 04:32:38 GMT

I just started to stick some old postcards on the wall at home and found
it growing into a very interesting collage, or wallpaper of sorts even. A 
great deal of interest value and a dash of nostalgia for me personally as 
well. Now although I had a fair stack, I was a little surprised at how small 
a postcard is and how large a wall is. 

So, I'd like to invite you to send me a postcard for which I will:

a) be eternally grateful
b) send one back (if desired)
c) invite you around for a cup of tea, a chat and even to stay a few days 
   (if you like ...)

Just think, you'll make your mark on my wall, and my life, and maybe
even make a friend for life. Or then again, maybe just a postcard for
your own wall ;-).

To join the revolution, just mail a postcard to me here:

Bernd Wechner
5 Charles Avenue
Minnamurra 2532
Australia

Remembering to include your own name and address if you like and see
what interesting things you can add to that. 

All the best then, and here's hoping we have some friendly people with
some motivation in the audience tonight ;-).

Ciao,

Bernd.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 92 04:38:22 TUR
From:         GEORGE BAUER <BAUER@RCKHRST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: OUTSIDE DENVER CO.
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

You may not have time, but two of my favorite places in Colorado are

1.  Around Leadville and Granite.

2.  Cripple Creek.  Take back roads to Colorado Springs.

Great walking and sightseeing country.


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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 92 09:25:20 EDT
From:         John <XTL00015@DUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Autumn in New England
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

>Hello!
>
>I'll be in Massachusetts, Vermont, and Maine for 5 days starting
>this Friday, October 2nd.  I'm wondering where are some of the best
>places to go for viewing the autumn colors in these 3 states.  Have
>the leaves started to change or will my trip be too soon?  Thanks
>for your advice!
>
>John H.
>E10JBH1@NIU
  Here are peak times from NEW ENGLAND WEATHER SERVICE.  Sept-20-30; Northern a
nd Western Maine; Northern Vermont; Northern New Hampshire
Oct 1-10- Most of Maine and New Hampshire; Central & Souther Vermont
Oct 10-20  Western Mass. Northern CT; Northern R.IO.  Eastern Mass. excluding
Cape Cod
 Oct 20-30  SOuthern Conn; R.I., Southereastern Mass and Cape Cod.



You'll think you're in heaven

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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:06:29 TUR
From:         "LAURENE S. FARLEY" <ADP_LAURENE@WSC.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      MONTANA
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From:   VAX1::ADP_LAURENE  "LAURENE S. FARLEY"  5-OCT-1992 10:34:02.79
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Hi, all!

I'm planning a trip to Montana during Thanksgiving Week and am
wondering whether any of you could recommend nice places to
stay, eat, see.  We are thinking of going to Bozeman, Billings
Helena, Kalispell and everything in-between...!

Thank you in advance,
Laurene Farley
adp_laurene@wsc.colorado.edu
P.O Box 18
Ohio, CO 81237
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 92 16:06:00 EDT
From:         HORVATH@DAEMON.RUTGERS.EDU
Subject:      Britain in May
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.travel-l

Thanks to all for the info you sent re Inverness/London.  I've gotten lots of
stuff from BritRail, BTA and the Scottish Tourist Bureau and naturally, the
info has created confusion.  We're not doing the self-catering route; this is
a holiday and I hate cooking and straightening rooms up on vacation; I'm going
to pamper myself (hey, 23 years of marriage and 5 kids, I deserve it).  The
following are a few hotels in Inverness that look good price-wise.  Does anyone
have any info on them--especially anyone from Britain?  Are the prices quoted
usually per room or per person?  The book isn't too clear, but 30 pounds/night
is pretty cheap for a riverside hotel (that comes to almost $60, which is
bargain basement in New Jersey!)  Here are the hotels:

Ardmuir         Brae Ness               Glendruidh House
Haughdale Hotel Larchfield Hotel        Palace Hotel
Windsor Hotel

Next:  My travel agent (who may be replaced) is quoting some odd prices on Dan
Air between London and Inverness (over $200).  Does anyone know anyting about
internal air fares in Britain?  And does BritAir go in and out of Newark, or
only JFK?  My agent insists only JFK and no one from NJ drives into JFK if they
can help it.  A train ride to Scotland would probably be lovely, but
considering jet lag and the 8+ hours travel time, I think not.  Anyone have any
experience here?  And, if we're planning only 2 or 3 rail trips, in Scotland,
is it worth it to buy a BritRail Pass?  I haven't had time to figure out fares
from the material I got, so can anyone give me a ball park answer?

Finally--what's the story on Scotland Yard, New or Old?  My London tourist book
doesn't mention it--does that mean it's not "open to view?"  Darn--I'd love to
run in to Adam Dalgliesh!  Literally!

Thank again for your help, guys, and I apologize for the War and Peace length.
I'll try to be much briefer in the future.

Hilde Horvath
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 92 19:54:41 EDT
From:         William Kemp <wkemp@S850.MWC.EDU>
Subject:      re: Blue Ridge Mountains
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An anonymous poster asked for the best time to see Fall colors
in the Blue Ridge Mountains.  This year it will almost certainly
be the last two weeks of October; the weather just turned cool,
so the leaves should start changing any day now. If you're going
to see them by driving the Blue Ridge Parkway, start from the
south -- maybe around Charlottesville -- and head north; you'll
then be driving against the traffic from Washington, D. C. rather
than with it.

Bill Kemp
Fredericksburg, Va.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 92 17:53:24 PDT
From:         Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "Re: Re: OUTSIDE DENVER CO."
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When the thank you is to all members of this list, it should be posted to
the list.   When the thank you is to an individual member of the list, to
me it is a violation of net ettiquette to post it to everyone.   Dave

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 92 15:39:57 EDT
From:         Utpal Vasavada <VASAVADA@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Ticket/Upgrade for Sale/Give
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              29 Sep 92 23:31:47 GMT from <$I013F03@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>

I will be going to San Diego over thanksgiving and could use the 1000 mile
upgrades. I have some coupons but not enough for this trip. Thanks.
Utpal VASAVADA
Email address: VASAVADA@ERS.BITNET

  -  UTPAL VASAVADA, PET BRANCH        BITNET : VASAVADA@ERS
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Subject:      Re: Poland
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              29 Sep 92 18:14:36 +0000.
              <9209292015.AA13787@archsci.arch.su.oz.au>

> How difficult (or
> expensive) would it be for me to go to Moscow or Prague from Krakow?  Amy oth
er

I travelled from Krakow to Prague by train in Dec 1986 and it wasn't
difficult. At the time we brought out train tickets here in Australia
before hand but if you don't mind queuing you can get them at the train
station. The trip was okay, not particularly comfortable and we were
sharing a compartment with smugglers so we were a bit nervous about
being caught and implicated :-). However, it could be done then with
relative ease so it shouldn't be any trouble now.


 -- Tmne
_______________________________________________________________________

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From:         Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: San Francisco
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A definite "good buy" source of info is "The San Francisco Book", from the
San Francisco Convention and Visitors Bureau, Box 6977, SF CA 94101.  $1.
It has LOTS of advertising (maybe 80%) but still has lots of good info.
Just don't use it for entertainment or restaurants (see below).

For entertainment you want the 'pink' section of the Sunday paper $1.25.
If you are arriving mid-week, send me an envelope addressed to you at your
hotel and put 7 oz. postage on it.  Near your name on the front, write
your arrival date.   I will mail you mine if I still have it.  Use first
class postage or it will never arrive in time.

As for restaurants, standard offer still stands: A Stamped, Self-Addressed
envelope (#10, business size) and $1 bill or a business card to DRVG, Box
0569, SF CA 94127-0569 gets you the best 25 restaurant values in the city.

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 92 15:41:42 EDT
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From:         Doreen Rappaport <IRMSS931@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: OUTSIDE DENVER CO.
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From:  Doreen Rappaport
Another great place is Glenwood Springs.  This is about 2.5 hours outside
of Denver.  The town has a wonderful hot water springs swimming pool.  It
is located right in the valley.  Very relaxing!

  XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
       Doreen Rappaport
       Smithsonian Institution      Phone: (202)786-2142
       OIRM - IRD                   Bitnet:  IRMSS931@SIVM
From: HGOLDSTE@UDCVAX.BITNET
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Subject: RE: OUTSIDE DENVER CO.
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:47:37 GMT
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Boulder is a great little town but around boulder are the flatirons,
neat rock formations, well named, that are a mecca for climbers ... and
around boulder are dozens of nifty canyons that offer spectacular drives.

estes park is also pretty neat, it too is great for climbing ... but i
don't recall how much you can really see from the road ... for mt
scenery take a drive south to colorado springs and the garden of the gods (truel
y awesome)
and then go back via the range just to the west (the collegiate
range?)
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From: $I013F03@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: Ticket/Upgrade for Sale/Give
Organization: C.C.S.O.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:17:49 GMT

In article <1687110493.$I013F03@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>
$I013F03@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
 
>
>
>Give away:
>=========
>2 coupons good for an upgrade from coach to first class on domestic trips
>within the US on United Airlines. Each coupon is for a trip of 1000 miles.
>The 2 can be combined for a longer trip. Can be used only to upgrade from
>FULL coach fares, unless you are a Premier member, in which case they can
>be used to upgrade from any fare.
>I will give these based on your justification for usage. So, send travel dates
>and origin/destination.
>
>Sell:
>====
>1 FIRST class ticket, - OR -  2 COACH class tickets between the US and
>Europe, or Asia, or the South Pacific. These are transferable frequent flyer
>tickets, so they will be issued in YOUR NAME. there are some black-out dates
>that depend on the destination and months of travel, so these have to be
>specified to check what they are.
>Price: US $2300 for either choice (1 first OR 2 coach class tickets)
>
 
I recieved a few complaints about mail that was sent to me but bounced back.
This probably happens because of the $ sign at the beginning of my user id
which is, I'm told, a UNIX shell characater. To overcome this problem you can
type a back-slash in front of the user id (i.e., \$i013f03@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu ).
If I haven't answered your e-mail, I didn't get it, so please send it again.
I've received many requests for the upgrade coupons, so these are gone. (I had
only 2).
 
Thanks!              $i013f03@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu  or  \$i013f03@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
 
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From:         HGOLDSTE@UDCVAX.BITNET
Subject:      RE: Two Weeks Hols for AUD$2,000
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sounds like New Zealand is perfect for you ... beaches, scuba,
trekking in the mts, bushwacking, camping, rainforests ... but
you've probably explored n.z. by now ...
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Date: 6 Oct 92 09:27:12 GMT
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To:
Chantal Payette
University of Toronto
Canada
--------------------------
In The Netherlands you may try the VVV Tourist Information Services.
In almost every town you'll find such a VVV bureau and they can
provide you with all the information you need, free.
I would not be afraid finding in Germany and Belgium the tourist
informationbureaus easily too. Very often they are in the
neighbourhood of (central) railwaystations.
I was in the other countries too but I did not need the touristinfo
bureaus in this way. Maybe others will give you that particular
information.
Have a nice stay in Europe.
Gerard van der Moolen
Wageningen / Netherlands
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