HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rpandey@CS.ORST.EDU (Rajeev Pandey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: OSU Beaver Recruits
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:00:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1depuhINNijr
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Oregon State University
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 The OSU Beavers have received oral commitments from the following two
 high school players:

 David Drakeford -- a 6'1" guard from Mater Dei High School of Santa 
                    Ana, CA. He averaged 7.3 ppg as a junior.

 Orie (Sonny) Benjamin -- a 6'8" forward from J.W.North High School in 
                          Riverside, CA. Sonny averaged 12.8 ppg and
                          7.1 rpg as a junior. Sonny chose OSU over USC,
                          Washington and Long Beach State. Benjamin was
                          one of the highest rated players at the Converse
                          Summer All-Star Camp.

 In an interesting side note, Mater Dei HS beat J.W. North 65-55 for the
 CIF Southern Section Div. I-A championship last year.

 So, anyone want to add to the information above???


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers)
Subject: Re: Jayhawk Post #9 (Spooks and Hoops)
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:34:20 GMT

>Subject: Jayhawk Post #10 (Pollard commits)
>
>This article is from the Tuesday, November 3, 1992 issue of the University
>Daily Kansan.
>
>HIGH SCHOOL CENTER COMMITS TO KANSAS
>by David Dorsey, Kansan sportswriter
>
>(followed by entire body of article which I have deleted) 
>
>Subject: Jayhawk Post #11 (Rayford & Pearson)
>
>SOPHOMORE GUARDS BRING DIFFERENT STYLES TO 'HAWKS
>by David Dorsey, Kansan sportswriter
>
>(body of article deleted) 
>
>Subject: Jayhawk Post #9 (Spooks and Hoops)
>
>SPOOKS AND HOOPS
>by David Dorsey, Kansan sportswriter
>
> (body deleted) 

I've been wondering: does this sort of massive posting constitute
woofing in and of itself?  Is it possible to woof simply by posting
an incredible amount of stuff about a team even if the content
does not contain what is generally regarded as woofing statements?

Hoping for a ruling from the r.s.b.c authorities,

Ken Bowers
From: mc83+@andrew.cmu.edu (Myung Joon Choi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Where's Grant Hill?
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:16:51 GMT
Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I can't believe Grant Hill was left out of the top five Duke players of
all-time list.  Danny Ferry over Grant Hill?  No way!  Sure Ferry went
to three final fours, but he was a key contributor for only his senior
season.  In Grant's two years, Duke is undefeated in the NCAA
tournament.  And for those of you who will bring up "the numbers" to
back Ferry up, check out tapes of the final four games the last two
years.  Grant Hill has scored the clutch points, handled the ball
adroitly, racked up the boards, and played smothering defense (Just ask
UNLV All-American Stacey Augmon how tough Grant's D is).  Does anybody
out there agree with any of this?  Put in the bank, Grant Hill will be
remembered as the greatest player ever to play Duke basketball.
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From: markham@brtph600.bnr.ca (Andrew Markham P205)
Subject: Re: Worst ACC Refs:  You damn rooks - by Curtis Hill
Organization: Bell Northern Research Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:46:49 GMT

In article <1dtr6qINNg5c@bredbeddle.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin) writes:
>
>Now, I've been a coach for a kids team, and there I agree with Jeff:
>the referee doesn't matter.  Why?  Because the level of the play is so
>low.  We call it "beehive ball," where you see this swarm of kids
>flowing around the field.  Occasionally the ball pops out, and the
>swarm descends on it.  

That's funny, we've always called it "amoeba ball," because the group never seems to
hold its shape for long.  The 'amoeba' is always close together chasing the ball, but never 
in a tight group (with some of the kids losing sight of the ball and guessing wrong, etc)...

True entertainment!

-- 
Andrew W. Markham (markham@bnr.ca)
Bell Northern Research, Inc.
From: djz@acpub.duke.edu (DAVID ZAVELSON)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:55:06 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

I second the vote for Lenny Wurts as the worst ref. Why is it
he always has to ref the Duke vs. UNC game!!!! 
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Where's Grant Hill?
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:55:41 GMT

In article <721663500@stego.cs.duke.edu> rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith)  
writes:

> First of all, Ferry was "the man" his last two seasons at Duke.

When has an opposing crowd chanted "Grant-y, Grant-y"?

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From: mtaranto@shearson.com (Mark Taranto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Villanova Roster is looking tough.
Date: 7 Nov 92 05:18:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: cfdev1.9211070518.AA04180
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway


> Villanova Basketball looked very good at Midnight Madness. The looks
> pumped and should do well this year.
 
I'm glad to hear this.
 
> The easy schedule should help us get 20 wins easily.
 
I figure a fellow Villanovan better respond to this before we start
being accused of puffing ourselves up.
 
I'd certainly like to see this.  But the fact is that Villanova is picked
to finish 7th in the Big East.  Even if the team goes 8-0 against non-
conference teams, they would still have to win 12 more against teams
in the conference.  They have the talent to do it, but only if Bain
and Byrd play up to their potential -- not something they have done yet.
Even so -- 12 wins against the Big East is posible, but will not be easy.
 
Mark
 
 
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From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Big Ten on CBS?? 
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:46:55 GMT


In article <1992Nov4.160811.9263@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
|> Path: ryn.mro4.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!pa.dec.com!decwrl!spool.mu.edu!umn.edu!doug.cae.wisc.edu!luther.che.wisc.edu!saunders
|> From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
|> Subject: Re: Big Ten on CBS?? 
|> Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
|> Distribution: usa
|> Date: 4 Nov 92 16:08:10 CST
|> Message-ID: <1992Nov4.160811.9263@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
|> References: <1992Nov4.164318.20767@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> <1992Nov4.205708.12793@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
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|> 
|> In article <1992Nov4.205708.12793@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> tshannon@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon) writes:
|> >	Does anyone know if the Big Ten games this year are on ABC or CBS?
|> >I heard there was a new contract between CBS and B-Ten.  I really hope not!
|> 
|> You are forgetting one very important thing:
|> 
|> Brent Musberger and Dick Vitale are with ABC. (I'm assuming Jimmy V. will
|> be too ill to comment this year, and I would hate to insult the guy when
|> he's down, anyway.  Besides, compared to Vitale, I liked him at times).

C'mon Brian.  Vitale ROOLZ!!! I really miss Keith Jackson doing the Hootenannies 
down in Chaaaampaaaaign with Dickie V.  At least Vitale will probably be doing 
some ESPN B10 games.  Now that Big Monday is using the b(?)8, does anyone know
what nights the B10 is on?

|> Of course, Bill Walton is with CBS, but that I think was only temporary, so
|> we probably won't see him for Big 10 games.
|> -- 
|> 
|> Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
|>
From: steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Black players at BYU
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:25:08 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

In <BxMJoD.n27@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:

>gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:
>>	Sounds to me more like you're talkin' 'bout Vanderbilt.  I would say
>>BYU, except BYU never has any black players on the team either.

>	Actually, here's a question -- who was the last black player
>	to play for BYU?  (It was just a couple of weeks ago)  He's a
>	rather interesting story.

My guess is you're talking about Jeff Chatman, who was a good story.  However,
Nick Sanderson played quite a bit for the Cougs last year, and he's black.  The
year before I think one of the garbage time players (Jones) was black.  This
year Sanderson is back, and should see quite a bit of playing time.  I don't
know if any of Reid's new recruits are black.
-- 
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  "It is considered good to look wise, especially when not 
   overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Subject: Re: Ted Kitchell
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:30:19 CST

In article <1992Nov4.181625.11509@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.155229.1601@hemlock.cray.com> jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau) writes:
>>what ever happened to Ted Kitchell?
>
>Well, because of his bad back, his NBA career never started.  He is doing
>something with his business degree in Indianapolis, I think (selling
>insurance?).  3 years ago, he was hosting a post-game IU basketball show on
>WTTV-4.  I don't know if he still does this.  He tended to be pretty
>scathing and sarcastic, which at times was funny, but at times wasn't.
>
>Example:
>
>[after Purdue came back after a 21-pt. deficit at IU in 1990, and won the
>game in OT]
>
>Other guy:  Pretty surprising game, wasn't it Ted?
>
>Ted:  It's always a surprise when Purdue wins.
>
>**$&%&*%)$##)_*%*!!!
>-- 
>
>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

How good would he have been in the NBA.  Wasn't he co-Big10 player of the
year his senior season, even though he missed a lot of games due to his
injury?

(I think Randy Breur was the other co...)

Jeff

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From: milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu (Richard Milleman)
Subject: Re: All-time Georgia team
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:30:56 GMT

I figured that while we were doing this, I could do this too. So here goes:

C - Elmore Spencer
SF- Dominique Wilkins
PF- Alec Kessler
SG- Litterial Green
PG- Vern Fleming

C - I chose Elmore here over Charles Claxton because in his 5-10 games as a         Georgia Bulldog, he was awesome. Claxton has some work to do but he will        supplant Elmore on this list by the end of the season.
SF - 'Nique. 
PF - Alec was a great PF, and a below average center when he had to fill in for      injuries. He never got much time here in his 4 years. He'll be a much           better doctor than an NBA player.
SG - Litterial was usually a point, but he has a shooter's mentality. He started     two seasons at each position here, but was more valuable as a 2-guard(IMO).
PG - Vern was a real team leader. He always knew what to do with the ball and        when to do it.

I know that these are all guys from 1981-present, but I know very little of     Georgia basketball before 1980. I know that they almost always fielded a below  average team.

-- 
                                                The Rickster
                                                milleman@athena.cs.uga.edu
The only thing in life that you get
for free is your feelings hurt.
From: sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Polls, polls, polls
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.college
Date: 10 Nov 1992 12:50:59 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
	<1992Nov10.151957.10083@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>
NNTP-Posting-Host: bredbeddle.cs.purdue.edu
In-reply-to: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov's message of Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:19:57 GMT

}} In article <1992Nov10.151957.10083@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
}} 
}} franklir@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ryan J Franklin ) writes:
}} 
}} > (See, you're even getting ME to use capital letters and exclamation points.
}} > What a revolting development.  Sort of like Sun City, I guess.)
}} 
}} Aarrgh, the UMASS!!! disease has spread... 

Montmorenci, Indiana (UPI) -- Steve Chapin, President and CEO of the
Boilerweenie Institute, was exultant during a press conference today.
"We have it!" he crowed.  "The secret weapon that will show that the
first counterintelligence* program for basketball fans is still the
best."  He cited a sample demonstration of a new secret weapon at the
Tuscon, Arizona branch campus.  The Arizona campus was the test site
for the now defunct GarY-AI, a product of collaboration between BWI
and Bruins 'R' Us, a Los Angeles conglomerate.

President Chapin would not reveal specifics, but documents illicitly
obtained by the Goober School for the Clueless indicate some sort of
microbe that causes the infected parties to shout and use gratuitous
punctuation.  When confronted with allegations of chemical warfare, a
BWI spokesman responded, "That's preposterous.  You folks need to
relax and stop looking for bogeymen behind every bush.  I recommend
Frank Herbert's _The White Plague_ for some light reading."

[ * choose the meaning you find more appropriate. ]

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
       "If you loose your arrow, you're likely to lose it in the weeds,"
                       was often heard in days of yore.

                  I meant what I said, and said what I meant.
           An elephant's faithful, one hundred percent. (Dr. Seuss)
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Pac-10 Tourney (Was: Re: First Anti-CBS comment of the season (was: Re: Pac-10 Expansion))
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:19:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov5.210143.9280@cs.uoregon.edu>, elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee) writes:
> I thought it only happened twice, the first held at UCLA which they won
> and the second held at Arizona which they won. 

 Could have been - I thought it was at least 3 times once at ASU as well but
I could be wrong..... though it is of course unlikely...


			gln



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From: rudwick@rock.pkg.mcc.com (Tom Rudwick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:47:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcc.1992Nov11.184731.19991
Organization: Packaging/Interconnect, M.C.C.

In article <1992Nov11.013603.3201@ptdcs2.intel.com>, kstewart@ptdcs2.intel.com (bongo) writes:
> 
> 
> Steve Javie, no contest. I've seen this idiot get so flustered he
> started ejecting fans.

I agree, but calling Steve Javie an idiot is an insult to idiots.
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From: tshannon@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy J Shannon)
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Organization: CAD-Research, U. of Iowa, Iowa City, Iowa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:36:18 GMT

From article <FCB=_K@engin.umich.edu>, by hajel@engin.umich.edu (john hajel):
> In article <6769@news.duke.edu> arminius@soc9.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter) writes:
>>
>>  In light of the interest in all-time great Duke and Kentucky teams, how
>>about this thread: 
>>
>>	What is the worst officiating crew possible to assemble. I put Lenny
>>Wurtz as the ref.
> 
> 
> I vote for the retired Jim Bain of the Big Ten.

	Make that two votes for blind Baines.
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From: wingfiel@lonestar.utsa.edu (Kevin J. Wingfield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Student seating
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:20:31 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio




        at the Univ of Texas - San Antonio ( yes we do play
        BBall)  there are two student sections, both at
        opposet ends of the court but directly behind the
        bench.  I can assume the reasoning is for the section
        behind the opposing bench is to ridicule them and
        to have them lose their consentration on the game
        and the assumption of why there is a student section
        directionly behind the home bench is to give them
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: SU
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:52:44 GMT
Keywords: suspension

brule@cheetah.cat.syr.edu (Mark R. Brule) writes:

>The CNN/Coaches poll will not rank them due to their probation.  I have not seen the AP guidlenines on this.  Anyone know?

	The UPI/ CNN polls will not rank teams on probations, however, the
	AP poll does not hold stipulations against teams under NCAA wrath.
	For instance, last year's UNLV team was ranked #7 and the Kentucky
	team under probation in the 90-91 season finished the season ranked
	#10.

	Jazzy J

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: More Rashard Griffith news!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:51:11 GMT

chu@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (93_CBR900RR) writes:
>I'm sorry, but today's Chicago Tribune announced that Rashad will be attending
>		 	WISCONSON!!!	

>It's a front page trib story...check it out...or ask my roomate (jazzy j)
>for the down and dirty details...he certainly has enough crammed into that
>head of his.		

	Hey -- I left at 8:00 this morning and so it was U that took
	the TRIB!!!!  Therefore all, I have not seen the paper as of
	yet, so no juicy details (thanx to my roomie)...
	:)
	(Just kidding, Eric)

	Jazzy J
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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Carolina Hoops
Summary: High Scorers for the Last 25 Years
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:50:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: hydra.73758
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

I am posting this for a friend who has temporarily lost net
access.  Please send commentary, if any, to him at:

	star3!walt!chill@concert.net (Curtis Hill)


Carolina high scorers from 1967-68.


67-68 Charlie Scott  22.4
68-69 Charlie Scott  22.3
69-70 Charlie Scott  27.1
70-71 Dennis Wuycik  18.4
71-72 Bob McAdoo     19.5
72-73 George Karl    17.0
73-74 Bobby Jones    16.1
74-75 Mitch Kupchak  18.5
75-76 Phil Ford      18.6
76-77 Phil Ford      18.7
77-78 Phil Ford      20.8
78-79 Al Wood        17.8
79-80 Al Wood        19.0
80-81 Al Wood        18.1
81-82 James Worthy   15.6
82-83 Michael Jordan 20.0
83-84 Michael Jordan 19.6
84-85 Brad Daugherty 17.3
85-86 Brad Daugherty 20.2
86-87 Kenny Smith    16.9
87-88 J.R. Reid      18.0
88-89 J.R. Reid      15.9
89-90 Rick Fox       16.2
90-91 Rick Fox       16.9
91-92 Hubert Davis   21.4


Thanks to Suresh "Mr. Left Coast" Rajgopal for compiling this list.


Curtis Hill
star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org
From: hallg@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UM - MSU - Big 10
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:09:21 GMT
Reply-To: hallg@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE)
Organization: Michigan State University
Originator: hallg@frith.egr.msu.edu

Michigan will be awesome this year and should be ranked in the Top 5 all
year.  Indiana will give them some competition for the Big 10 title though.
Michigan State will probably be about the same as last year (middle of the
Big 10, Top 20 finish).  They lost two starters (Mark Montgomery and Matt
Stegeinga), but added a Top 10 recruiting class featuring Quinton Brooks and
Jamie Feick.

Greg Hall
Michigan State University
From: pafford@metis.rtp.dg.com (Randy Pafford)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Polls, polls, polls
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:36:10 GMT
Reply-To: pafford@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <XJAM.92Nov10131018@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU>, xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
|> >>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin J. Wingfield <wingfiel@lonestar.utsa.edu> writes:
|> >	If you think Georgetown is ranked too high, you haven't heard
|> >about our new recruits, especially Othella Harrington.  He's the next
|> >Dikembe, Mourning, and Ewing.	Look out Big East!!
|> >
|> >	--D. Mix
|>   Kevin>                 But Harrington is in his first yr
|>   Kevin>                 the three you listed were not an
|>   Kevin>                 impact in their first yr's
|>   Kevin>                 so how do you figure this guy will.
|>   Kevin>                 Ewing had the most impact of the
|>   Kevin>                 three as a freshman...so don't expect
|> 
|> I don't know. Throwing James Worthy's shit into the 3rd row during the NCAA
|> finals sounds like a pretty big impact to me.
|> --
|> xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez
|> 

As I recall, Ewing WAS an impact player in his freshman year, but 
the example given -- "Throwing James  Worthy's shit into the 3rd row 
during the NCAA finals sounds like a pretty big impact to me" is debatable. 

Ewing had at least three, and it might have been four, GOALTENDING calls 
in the early minutes of the game.   Some of highlight clips from that
game don't mention that they were goaltends . . . 
Considering the final score, it would have been interesting to see what 
happened had Ewing not given the Heels 6 or 8 early points.  Was his 
defensive presence worth that many points?

Randy
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