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From: durrell@pinball.arcade.uiowa.edu (Bryant Durrell)
Subject: Re: alt.fan.cows
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 01:30:07 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa
Keywords: hi tim

In article <1992Dec31.195131.28127@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>I'm serious about this group, as opposed to my
>sarcastic calls for other newsgroups such as "alt.dev.null.mnemonics."

Nonsense, Joel.  You're clearly still under the impression that
you get ten experience points for each group you propose.  Sorry,
but you'll be stuck at 1st level Maynard for a very long time.

The free clue on social interaction for the day is this:  read
The Boy Who Cried Wolf.  Reflect upon it in relation to your 
recent mainstream group proposal and this so-called serious alt
group.  Meditate.  For a very long time.

(and no, you can't multi-class to t.bite)

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: graaff@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Hans de Graaff)
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.fan.mst3k
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:16:00 GMT

In article <qMX=aN_@engin.umich.edu> positron@engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Scott Haas) writes:
>I am proposing the creation of alt.fan.mst3k (unmoderated), to provide 
>a discussion forum for fans of the cable show "Mystery Science Theater 3000".
>
>MST3K is on Comedy Central. If the general concensus is positive, I will
>create alt.fan.mst3k on or about 1 January 1993.

Yeah! Another group about a TV-program which can only be seen in the
States. Don't you guys have a us.* hierarchy over there?

Anyway, if you still feel the need, make it alt.tv.mst3k.

Hans

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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: alt.config,news.groups
Subject: Re: rec.arts.fantasy
Date: 27 Dec 92 22:42:13 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School
Followups-To: news.groups
Disclaimer: I don't represent Dartmouth and Dartmouth doesn't represent me.

In <1haqgeINN5b4@hp-col.col.hp.com> lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson) writes:

>I agree that there's no clear line between fantasy and sf. And, as a
>reader of both, I would hate to have to wade through the crossposts
>that would result from the creation of a rec.arts.fantasy.

Exactly. Almost any discussion that I can envision in a rec.arts.fantasy
would be very prone to crossposting to rec.arts.sf.written. Why have two
groups with the same traffic?

-Geoff
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From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: alt.fan.multics, any interest in a Multics (OS) newsgroup?
Date: 24 Dec 92 10:36:39 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <1ha783INNhnh@rs6000.bham.ac.uk> G.Simpson@bham.ac.uk writes:
>You have my vote on alt.os.multics also  - as the second (or was it third)
>last on the bham.ac.uk multics, i'd like it.

I've got a framed copy of the last page of our Multics' console log (we
used paper in those days), collected during its final shutdown.  Sad.
Belongs to the Centre, really, but we still haven't arranged for it to
be hung up anywhere.  Also, the 'Honeywell' and '68|DPS' 'decor' panels
from the top of the CPU boxes.  (And, two PCBs of unknown origin; maybe
if I put in their ID codes, someone could tell me which box(es) they
came from?)

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From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: alt.fan.multics, any interest in a Multics (OS) newsgroup?
Date: 24 Dec 92 10:30:55 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <FAIGIN.92Dec23110259@soldan.aero.org> faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin) writes:
>On 23 Dec 92 10:33:22 GMT, smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee) said:
>> You lucky b*****d.  Given that I expect there's about a 0% (more or
>> less) probability of my ever seeing a Multics box again
>
>Actually, if you got in the Computer Security field, or at least went to the
>National Computer Security Conference, you might just run into it again. AIM
>(access control) can be a pain, but its actually quite useful.

Actually, I never mastered AIM, but so far I've never really run across
a situation where it would have been necessary.  (I'm not saying, by
the way, that AIM isn't useful -- just not needed for the sorts of
things I do.)  I'd be happy to have (just) the Multics style ACLs,
without AIM.

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Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.humor.d
From: kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes)
Subject: Re: alt.fan.bovines
Summary: dont discriminate against bull feces!
Keywords: steerage
Organization: Thinkage Ltd. (Obsfucation Department)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:48:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.211932.817@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
   <request for alt.fan.cows>

in the spirit of usenet i suggest the more general, and less sexist name:
   alt.fan.bovine (s)

and dontchya think Larson does the best bovine humour around?

     -ken,   \__/
             |oo|___
             \==/---

(smiley faces are so much easier for us non-artists... :-)

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From: smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott Mash)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.games.frp.amber
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:59:00 GMT
Organization: Smasher Land RPG BBS (614)593-8359

In article <1992Dec21.233931.12398@midway.uchicago.edu> elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>The Amber RPG mailing list has now broken quite a few subscribers'
>mail quotas (at nearly 30 messages per day before winter break set in!).
>Thanks to a massive wave of unsubscriptions from disgruntled users,
>and much gnashing of teeth on the part of the list manager, whom I
>have to live with, I think it's time to suggest an alt.* group.
>
>Therefore, I propose an alt.games.frp.amber.  (My second choice for
>the name would be "alt.games.amber-rpg," which avoids spawning a


Why not put this in the rec.games.frp hierarcy?


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Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.humor.d
From: jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley)
Subject: Re: alt.fan.cows ... or perhaps alt.humor.ascii-art
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:10:59 GMT
Keywords: hi tim

durrell@pinball.arcade.uiowa.edu (Bryant Durrell) writes:

:)(Joel didn't get it last time.)

:)Joel, if you want to get taken seriously, you must stop doing
:)things like proposing joke groups (to the extent of a CFV)
:)and posting ASCII art in alt.config.  Every time you do 

Joel has said more than enough times he's serious about this proposal. Maybe
posting ascii files related to the group he's proposing in alt.config isn't
the right way to go about it, maybe it is. For the past week I've seen him
post several articles about his serious intents, and I for one at least
realize that his ascii posts are an attempt to show others the need for
the proposed group. And in response I see countless numbers of people basically
telling him to go away. Whatever he may have done in the past, please quit
whining about it. If he's serious, which he's said that he is, then serious
discussion is warrented. Whining won't help. If this is another joke, the
fact that he's done it before means he'll do it again, and whining about it
won't help. The key point here is that either way, whining about it won't
help. So if you insist on bothering the readership of two gropus, could you at
least please have a serious discussion about the proposed group and not about
Joel? Thank you.

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: Cynthia A Buffum <cbuffum@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Re: Alt.culture.Bengali
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 01:00:38 GMT

      Okay here's yer line! YUPYUPYUPYUPYUPYUPYUPYUP.


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From: magnus@thep.lu.se (Magnus Olsson)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: alt.fan.multics, any interest in a Multics (OS) newsgroup?
Keywords: group creation alt
Date: 20 Dec 92 14:50:29 GMT
Organization: Theoretical Physics, Lund University, Sweden

[Note crossposting! The a.f.c crowd may be interested in this...]

In article <bdp21_@rpi.edu> multics@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (Multics) writes:
>I'd like to know it there is enough interest out there to warrant the
>creation of an alt.fan.multics newsgroup where us past and present Multics
>people can discuss the Multics OS and anything Multics oriented that comes
>to mind, including the current status of Multics.

I'd like to see such a group; I don't know much about multics, but it'd
be great fun to read. All this provided you think there'd be enough
traffic to warrant a new newsgroup, of course.

The name alt.fan.multics is *bad*, though, because all the other
alt.fan.* groups are about people in show biz; it would lead the
newbies to believe that multics was a pop group :-).

May I suggest alt.os.multics, or possibly
alt.folklore.computers.multics instead? 
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.humor.d
From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr)
Subject: Re: alt.fan.cows
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 08:21:28 GMT

In article <1hvu87INNpbn@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks) writes:
>
>In a previous article, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) says:
>
>>I propose alt.fan.cows. 
>>
>>This group would be home to Cow Conspiracy talk, cow jokes, postings of
>>Cow Art (the Net Cows done in ASCII), etc. etc. etc.
>>
>I don't think so. There is already a rec.pets.  Discussions about
>cows are completely welcomed.

Naw, I don't think so.  Last time we posted the Cow Files to rec.pets, we
got flames and more flames.  And still more flames.  The Cow ASCII Art is
loved by a select class of USENET readers.
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman)
Subject: Re: New newsgroup proposal: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:52:33 GMT

kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:

> I'm for it.  NY's the second-biggest state in the country, and ny.* and
> alt.great.lakes just don't cut it.

: oea@usit.uio.no (Odd Einar Aurbakken) writes:

: [I edited the newsgroups line, don't believe in posting to nonexitent groups]

: That might be right, but don't forget you are promoting a _world_ wide
: group, I belive that to be an overkill.

Please tell me this ...

Why is alt.culture.oregon okay, alt.culture.alaska okay, alt.culture.(insert  
region in India) okay, alt.california okay, alt.great-lakes okay,  
alt.appalachian okay, but alt.culture.ny-upstate isn't?  If anyone can come up  
with an intelligent answer to that question I'd be willing to listen.   
Otherwise, I feel there is no rationale for saying this group shouldn't be  
allowed. 

Genesee wishes and chicken wing dreams ... 

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Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.computers
From: alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson)
Subject: Re: alt.fan.multics, any interest in a Multics (OS) newsgroup?
Followup-To: alt.config
Originator: alderson@leland.Stanford.EDU
Keywords: group creation alt
Reply-To: alderson@cisco.com (Rich Alderson)
Organization: Cisco Systems (MIS)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 21:17:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.145029.5468@pollux.lu.se>, magnus@thep (Magnus Olsson) writes:
>[Note crossposting! The a.f.c crowd may be interested in this...]
>
>In article <bdp21_@rpi.edu> multics@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (Multics) writes:
>>I'd like to know it there is enough interest out there to warrant the
>>creation of an alt.fan.multics newsgroup where us past and present Multics
>>people can discuss the Multics OS and anything Multics oriented that comes
>>to mind, including the current status of Multics.
>
>I'd like to see such a group; I don't know much about multics, but it'd
>be great fun to read. All this provided you think there'd be enough
>traffic to warrant a new newsgroup, of course.
>
>The name alt.fan.multics is *bad*, though, because all the other
>alt.fan.* groups are about people in show biz; it would lead the
>newbies to believe that multics was a pop group :-).
>
>May I suggest alt.os.multics, or possibly
>alt.folklore.computers.multics instead? 

Or how about *alt.sys.multics* like the already-extant alt.sys.pdp8?
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From: mitch@novavax.UUCP (Mitch Silverman)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re^2: New newsgroup proposal - alt.quotations
Date: 27 Dec 92 02:12:23 GMT
Organization: Nova University, Fort Lauderdale, FL

alt.quotations?  Correctly worded?  Citations?  Apocrypha?
An FAQ?

My mouth is watering at the thought.
Sign me up!  Yesyesyes!

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the University of South Florida    | but will defend to the death 
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: RESULT: comp.society.folklore unmoderation fails 729:151
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapolis
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:53:44 -0500

In article <1992Dec21.125200.1@vms.cis.pitt.edu>, tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
> In article <1992Dec20.200542.17556@sq.sq.com>, msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>
>    > OR it could have been from those "flame-bait" postings that Joel and I put
>    > in rec.arts.startrek entitled "Lost in Space Was Better" in which we set a
>    > "reply-to:" address of "vote-no@sq.com".  ;-)
>
>  > <laughter>
>  > But, before somebody starts screaming "revote!", let's keep in mind
>  > that even if only a TENTH of the "No" votes count, the vote STILL
>  > FAILS by the 100-vote margin.
>  > Shame on you ... !
>
>> In case anyone else thinks this actually happened...

BUT THE IMPORTANT THING IS: Can you PROVE that it DIDN'T happen??  AHA!!!
I didn't think so!!!

>>[more stuff from Mark deleted]
>[stuff from Terry deleted]
>
> You think nobody replies to "flame-bait"?  Sheesh!  I get more e-mail in a day
> than Craig_Shergold@vms.cis.pitt.edu gets post-cards in a week.  BTW: Craig
> is no longer dying and asks for your cooperation in stopping this urban legend.
> He asks that whenever you see the Craig Shergold urban legend you would change
> "Craig Shergold" to "Terry Wood" and "Business Cards" to "$1 bills (or more)".

NEWS FLASH:  Craig has just been PROMOTED out of the filthy SEWER of ALT!!!!
He now has his own "mainstream" newsgroup: rec.collecting.cards!  From now on
we can refer all inquiries of this type that appear in AFU there.  If you
don't believe me, see news.announce.newgroups!!!
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From: t90nikhi@mp.cs.niu.edu (Nikhil Kumar)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Newsgroup alt.culture.bengali
Date: 26 Dec 1992 19:13:49 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



>I am proposing the creation of a new newsgroup called alt.culture.bengali.
>This newsgroup is intented to be a place to discuss Bengali language,
>literature and other aspects of Bengali culture.


>
>I hope I will receive a favorable response.
>
>- Bijoy Sagar


I vote YES for the new newsgroup. However, I think that it will fit better in 
soc.heirarchy.

Nikhil Kumar

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From: mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: New newsgroup proposal: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:27:01 GMT
	<OLDMAN.92Dec21151323@titan.ucc.umass.edu>
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu's message of 21 Dec 92 20:13:23 GMT


In article <OLDMAN.92Dec21151323@titan.ucc.umass.edu> oldman@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Tig Stone) writes:

   In article <BzL5FJ.E3D@world.std.com> kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey) writes:

   > I'm for it.  NY's the second-biggest state in the country, and ny.* and
   > alt.great.lakes just don't cut it.

	   I thought Alaska and Texas were the 2 largest states in the
   country.  Or maybe it was California.

I think he meant in terms of population, not geographic area.

	   I agree with Tim that it isn't necessary for this group.

I disagree.  I like it.  Let's keep it.
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From: petter@pnilsen.adsp.sub.org (Petter Nilsen)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: proposal alt.sys.amiga.cnews/cnews.patches
Date: 25 Dec 92 02:36:20 GMT
Reply-To: cbmehq!cbmnor!pnilsen!petter@cbmvax.commodore.com
Organization: Ultima Thule Software
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1h3i0uINN4tq@uwm.edu> bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:

> I propose not a "uucp" group, which is merely a facet of what
> networking is on the amiga, but a different group altogether.
>
> Comp.sys.amiga.networks should become a reality.

I agree that the need is there, but not about the name. I would suggest
comp.sys.amiga.networking as the name of the group.

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From: an4032@anon.penet.fi
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.culture.bengali
Date: 28 Dec 92 03:39:00 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.config

I support the creation of this newsgroup

-a bengali
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From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: alt.fan.multics, any interest in a Multics (OS) newsgroup?
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:01:26 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <1992Dec20.145029.5468@pollux.lu.se> magnus@thep.lu.se (Magnus Olsson) writes:
>In article <bdp21_@rpi.edu> multics@lachesis.acm.rpi.edu (Multics) writes:
>>I'd like to know it there is enough interest out there to warrant the
>>creation of an alt.fan.multics newsgroup ....
>
>The name alt.fan.multics is *bad*, ....
>
>May I suggest alt.os.multics, or possibly
>alt.folklore.computers.multics instead? 

Realistically speaking (and as an old Multician myownself), I'd suggest
that alt.religion.multics would probably be nearer the truth.

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From: an3919@anon.penet.fi
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: New newsgroup : alt.culture.bengali
Date: 27 Dec 92 01:08:56 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.config



>I am proposing the creation of a new newsgroup called alt.culture.bengali.
>This newsgroup is intented to be a place to discuss Bengali language,
>literature and other aspects of Bengali culture.


	stuff deleted .......

>
>Draft charter of the newsgroup
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>This new newsgroup is mainly intented to discuss:
>(a) The structure and construction of Bengali language
>(b) growth of Bengali language in post-independent India
>(c) The literature of Bengali people
>(d) The men of letters.
>(e) Bengali language and transliteration.
>(f) Dialects, deviants and schools within the language.
>(g) Other art media that use Bengali language.
>(h) Bengali cultural institutions
>(i) Politics of power and the language.
>(j) Any other topic of relative merit and interest.
>
	What about Bangladeshi language?

>
>I hope I will receive a favorable response.
>
>- Bijoy Sagar

I think that this group should be welcomed. I vote YES for the creation of this newsgroup.

- Joydeep Mitra         
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