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From: epb3r@Virginia.EDU ("Erik P. Brady")
Subject: hitchcock, zappa, the usual
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:47:29 GMT

I've seen as many Hitchcock movies as I have access to and I'd
like to watch the ones I haven't seen.  Any info. on how I
could see the following would be much appreciated:
	Pleasure Garden (1st silent, 1927)
	Mountain Eagle  (2nd silent, 1927)
	Downhill        (4th silent, 1927)
	Juno & the Paycock (2nd sound, 1930)
	Waltzes in Vienna (aka Strauss' Great Waltz) (7th, 1933)
I'm also interested in anything AH co-directed (pre-Pleasure
Garden stuff).  I actually made it through D. Spoto's book.

I'd also like to get Frank Zappa's "Does Humor Belong in Music?"
cd if anybody has easy access to that.

Please use my email address as I'm not as familiar with this
stuff.

Oh yeah - I bought a used RCA Videodisc player with about 125
movies and I haven't watched many of them yet, but if there's
anybody out there who has that type of disc and they'll sell
them cheaply I'd be interested. 

"Music is the Best"                      epb3r@virginia.edu
	       Frank Zappa                   Erik Brady
From: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Millers Crossing
Date: 20 Dec 92 22:13:39 GMT
Reply-To: st923459@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

To anyone that hasn't seen any of the four films tossed around:

Blood Simple (1984?  I Think?)
Raising Arizona (1986)
Miller's Crossing (1990)
Barton Fink (1992)

Stop what you're doing, right now, and go out to the Blockbuster near you
and rent them.  No top 5 list is complete without some mention of the
incredibly able and genious filmmakers Joel and Ethan Coen.  

I am willing to discuss with anyone any of these movies.  Email me; I will
respond (although it might take me a while)

Happy Trails,

Todd @ Brandeis
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From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: batman ii -- the vill
Organization: Clark University
Date: 17 DEC 92 17:06:41 GMT

In a previous article, "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> wrote:
>JNS>I recently saw Dracula, and when I came home I looked up the movie
>JNS>'Nosferatu' is a movie guide I've got, only to find that the first
>JNS>vampire in a movie was played by none other then Max Shreck. Imagine
>JNS>my surprise when I remembered that Max Shreck is the bad guy in
>JNS>Batman II.
> 
>     Max Schreck also starred in the Fritz Lang's classic METROPOLIS.  In
>     fact, this is where Tim Burton got the idea for using the name
>     "Max Schreck," because the BATMAN movies have been strongly influenced
>     by METROPOLIS.

  Who is Schreck in Metropolis?  He's not listed in my Maltin video guide, nor 
do I remember the name from the film (which is awesome and I've seen many 
times).  I can believe the influences on Burton though.

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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Jeffrey Jones Mailing List
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:18:39 GMT

In article <Bz6sJz.110@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> formula4@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Formula 409) writes:
>Ok, for anyone out there who is a Jeffrey Jones fan, I am organizing a
>Jeffrey Jones mailing list.  To subscribe, e-mail me
>(formula4@sage.cc.purdue.edu) and include Jeffrey Jones in the header.
>
>I hope to make the publications high-quality and chock-full of information
>about the actor.  And if anyone out there has any infoormation, they will
>be welcome to send me articles for the publication.

[....]

This is rather fortuitous.  I'm waiting to see the format and such,
because I would like to start a monthly magazine, "GMS: G. Mark
Stewart Acquaintance To The Stars Newsletter and Fanzine," for
all those people who are interested in the Latest Scoop on me,
G. Mark Stewart (a-t-t-s).

This High-Quality, Super-Informative publication will have all the
Latest Info. on my life, my activities, my likes and dislikes -
all that things that make me tick.

The Premiere Issue will address such HOT topics as:

- My favorite magazines (and where to pay for my gift subscriptions)
- My favorite color (very hot topic at GMS-CON, last summer)
- My favorite foods (and how to order and send to me)
- My pet peeves (and how to avenge me against those responsible)
- How to send money to me (what common denominations accepted)
- How not to offend me (long article, worth the price of subscription alone)
- My favorite cars (how to save up to buy me one)
- How to make my day a happy one (special bonus section with names
  of individuals I'd like to spend the weekend with)
- Bonus Competition, 50 words or less, "Why I Like GMS", Win a
  Dream Date with GMS!

And Much, Much More!

If this venture takes off, I may be able to make the issues weekly!
So pitch in, and send your dollars now, to spread the good news to
those less fortunate, such as those around the globe that have not
been able to find out more about me, Mark Stewart!

Gift subscriptions available.  Here's Your Chance to Make Me Happy!

To make your Holiday a Happy One...

...Hope this helps.

GM(a-t-t-s)S
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From: jdliss@unix.amherst.edu (Jeff Liss)
Subject: Re: Batman Sequels
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:51:47 GMT

Speculations seem pretty sure that Burton will return to direct, which
I doubt.  I'd like someone else to take a shot ... II was good, a good
Burton movie that is.  I wouldn't look for more than three movies, as
Keaton once said he doesn't want the Batsuit to expand as he gets fat
and old...

Jeff
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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Spielberg
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:37:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.163541.24591@deeptht.armory.com> crisper@deeptht.armory.com (Crisper Than Thou) writes:
>In article <Bz9Mtv.9pr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
>>vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan) writes:
>>
>>>	Personally, Spielberg is one of my favorite directors (if you could not
>>>tell).  Yes, he's had his box office busts, maybe a bit too many, but I think
>>>that Jurrasic Park will change a lot of opinions about him.
>>
>>I certainly hope so.  However, it depends on which Spielberg is directing:
>>the Good Spielberg, who directed "Close Encounters" and "Jaws," or the
>>Evil Spielberg, who gave us "*batteries not included."
>>
>
>	If my memory serves me correctly, the Evil Spielberg didn't actually
>direct *batteries not included. He merely produced, or co-produced, it.
>I think it might have been Frank Marshall who actually directed.

Close, Matthew Robbins directed _*batteries not included_ while
Marshall's firt film was _Arachnophobia_.


--
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From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Subject: Re: Linda Hamilton
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:54:37

>>>>> In article <lc49417@pro-amber.cts.com>, rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki) writes:

> Has anyone got any idea what project Linda Hamilton might be
> considering next?

Well I heard she was expecting a baby (with Jim Cameron). Dunno about
any film-projects though.

I would like to think that the MTV movie award for most attractive
female should buy *some* clout with Hollywood producers...:-)

- Steinar
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From: tlc9y@Virginia.EDU ("tara lou")
Subject: Re: What is Molly Ringwald doing
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:51:59 GMT

last i heard about ms. ringwald is that she was in the company
of dweezil zappa, son of the infamous shankadelic frank zappa.
don't know of any future movie projects...i have a feeling john
hughes outgrew her.
From: peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter Merholz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Good 1st time, not second
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:01:17 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

VERTIGO: Fascinating and mesmerizing the first time, but once you know the
plot, seeing it again is not nearly as fun. The movie can be excruciatingly
SLOW...

--Peter M.

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From: kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim)
Subject: Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Actor/Actress
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:39:36 GMT

Overrated:
  Actor - Kevin Costner
  Actress - Julia Roberts

Underrated:
  Actor - Steve Martin
  Actress - Lorraine Bracco
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From: jrc2k@Virginia.EDU ("Roxie Conley")
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:56:32 GMT

darrenl@natinst.com  writes:
> I watched DieHard 2(again) over the weekend and there are a couple of things
> that I have to mention.
> [problems with DH 2 deleted]

	I haven't actually seen DH 2, but I just had to get my
$0.02 in by mentioning the fact that in the original Die Hard,
Bruce Willis' tank top is sometimes white and sometimes black.
Which is not to say that this ruined the movie, I loved it, and
let me apologize now if this is an old topic but I'm new here...
Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:35079 alt.cult-movies:11154
From: charriso@gssec.bt.uk.co
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Blade Runner - Director's Cut in UK
Date: 11 Dec 92 10:37:57 GMT
	<1992Dec6.200210.22298@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Organization: /homedir/charriso/.organization

It's also showing in Glasgow (at the GFT of course) from Jan 17 - Jan 30.
Tickets are bookable by phone (041-332 8126). I've got my ticket.

Cheers
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: movie top 10 by sight
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:15:01 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

KT>IMHO the problem with most critics is that they have seen to many movies, so
KT>that the entertainment value has faded and they begin to judge movies from
KT>their own artistic standpoint.  This approach works alright for "artistic"
KT>movies but fails miserably when it comes to evaluating action or comedy.

     There are a couple of flaws with this argument.  Specifically, if
     critics hate action movies because they're not "artistic," then what
     about the praise heaped upon such movies as RAIDERS OF THE LOST ARK,
     STAR WARS, THE ROAD WARRIOR, LETHAL WEAPON, ALIENS, ROBOCOP, and other
     recent movies?  (As well as classic films with lots of action, such as
     THE LONGEST DAY or STAGECOACH.)

     Likewise with comedy.  The critics fell over themselves to say good
     things about such films as WHO FRAMED ROGER RABBIT, BULL DURHAM,
     THE NAKED GUN, VICTOR/VICTORIA, and other recent funny movies.

     There's a good reason why those movies received good reviews: they're
     terrific movies.  I certainly enjoyed them all - much more so than
     such pablum as MARKED FOR DEATH or HOME ALONE.
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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Highest gross movies
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:28:47 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec16.163045.6235@vlsi.polymtl.ca> d40937@boole (Jean Yves Desbiens) writes:

>Constant dollars are a better indicator of films worth than 
>ticket sales, because they indicate what you are ready to
>pay see a movie. If it doesn't cost nothing to see a movie, you'll
>go in and see complete trash more often than if there is a price
>attached to it. 

Maybe it's me, but how's this:

To rate movies (objectivly), take the ratio of what the movie made over
what it cost. :-)

This automatically takes inflation into account (movies cost more to see
today, but they also cost more to make), and it gives you a good view
of how it did, compared to what it cost.

Sure, movie X only made $20 million, but then again it only cost $500,000
to make!!!  While movie Y made $200 million, but it cost $150 million to
make!

(Yes, I'm exagerrating.  You get the point).

Comments?

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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: What is Molly Ringwald doing
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:35:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.223904.5156@Virginia.EDU> cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike") writes:
>
>> She is apparently in the company of Beastie Boy Adam Horovitz at present.
>
>	You're thinking of Ione Skye of "Say Anything" and the
>new TV series Covington Cross.
>	Molly Ringwald did a movie about three years ago called
>"Fresh Horses" but I haven't seen anything since that.
>	Maybe she is dead.
>

I just have to say this. I like a lot of movies, but Fresh Horses simply
bored me to death.

Feli.
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Most Underrated Actress?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:06:45 GMT

bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:


>Posts in the last few days have listed overrated/underrated
>actresses and actors.  I'm a little confused by some of them.

>Julia Roberts, Madonna, and Sharon Stone have all been mentioned
>as being most overrated.  I would agree that their acting talents
>are minimal, but I really can't recall *anyone* saying that their
>talents were more than minimal.  i.e. if no-one claims
>they could act well, how can they be overrated?

The fact that Madonna gets movie roles AT ALL is proof that she is
overrated.  :)


                                --Steve Stelter
                                  sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

>As for Linda Hunt being underrated, my impression was
>that she is very highly thought of.  Where's the underrating?
>-- 
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Underrated/overrated
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:49:14 GMT

Overrated Actors: Kev Costner (Prince of Theives was just plain bad.  
Can you say "Kevin is made of wood"?) Tom Cruise

Overrated Actresses: Glenn Close (she makes my flesh creep)


Overpaid and overrated actress: Julia Roberts.


Underrated Actor: Scott Bakula.  I thought Necessary Roughness was fun, and he's just *so* good on QL.  Look at "Shock Theatre" if you don't believe me.

Underrated actress: Jennifer Connely.  Labryinth is still one of my faves 
becasue she came off so well.  I find most teenage actresses to be annoying,
but she was very sincere.  Too bad about that John Hughes film, but
"Rocketeer" was a romp.  Wish they'd make a sequel.


LJC


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From: George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris)
Subject: Re: Movies you loved, but couldn't see more than once.
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:14:53 GMT

	Deliverance.

	*shudder*

--
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From: cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Changing Directors
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:27:29 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia


	Since someone brought it up, let's think how films
would have been changed if they had different directors.
Imagine "Look Who's Talking" directed by David Lynch.  Given
his fettish in previous films with unborn babies, it would seem
a sure thing.
	Here's the plot:  Isabella Rossellini has a graphically
shot one night stand with Dennis Hopper.  Her child has its
thoughts spoken by Dean Stockwell.  She decides to find a
suitable father, and after a series of serio-comic misadventures
involving Crispin Glover, Willem Dafoe and the One-Armed Man, she
settles on a lowly taxi driver/baby sitter, Kyle Maclauclin (?).  In the
dramatic finale, Rossellini's grandfather's retirement home is
burned down by the child on an ether binge.  His first words
are "BOB".

	-- Chris Wrike
From: rcbi27@marshall.wvnet.edu (DBRUM)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PRISONER or FUGITIVE?
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:41:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: marshall.1992Dec11.194122.119642
Organization: Marshall University

In article <1992Dec8.191909.28132@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh) writes:

>               All along he is pursued
>               by a Lieutenant who's either NAMED Barry Morse or is
>               PLAYED BY Barry Morse. 

Right--played by Barry Morse. Character's name: Lieutenant Gerard.

--danny
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From: cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike")
Subject: Re: Roger & Me Sequel?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:06:43 GMT

"Roger and Me" was originally filmed as a documentary for PBS.
However, since it was so good they put it into theatrical
release.  Earlier this year (in September, I think) they
finally broadcasted the film on PBS, along with a thirty-minute
follow up by Michael Moore, called something like "For Food or Pets" (in
reference to the woman who skinned rabbits).  This follow-up was billed
as a "sequel" to "Roger and Me".  I did not see it the second
part, but I heard that it was not nearly as good as the original film.

	-- Chris Wrike
From: darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Problems with DieHard 2
Date: 14 Dec 1992 08:43:02 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: eagle.natinst.com

I watched DieHard 2(again) over the weekend and there are a couple of things
that I have to mention.  At the end of the  movie when McClane lit the trail
of gas leaking from the jet engine he just happened to be sitting right at
the end of the trail.  I mean that when he lit it it was right in front of him.
On top of that, the fuel had been leaking before he fell off the plane so had
he landed right on top of the "fuel trail" the flame would have went backwards
too and burned him, but instead it just went forward toward the plane.

Another thing, when he was in the cockpit of the plane when they threw all the
grenades in, it sure took a long time for those grenades to go off. 

The whole thing with not being able to light the runway was ridiculous. They 
could have lined up all those firetrucks,ambulances, etc. on the sides of the
runway.

I enjoyed the movie(not as much as the first) but I wanted to mention these
things.

Darren

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From: gawne@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: A review on A FEW GOOD MEN
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:53:18 GMT

In article <ISBELL.92Dec11113022@panther.ai.mit.edu>, 
isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:

> Heard this on Headline News today.  The reviewer (Carol Buckman?)
> ripped it to shreds.  She liked the courtroom scenes but thought all
> the rest of the movie was cliched and covered territory so familar it
> was boring.

I'd add that the conduct of the Marine colonel in the film is not very
realistic.  Such twisted ideals may have been rewarded in the Marine 
Corps of the '50's.  Possibly even into the '60's.  But I can state as
a Marine of over 20 years experience that they would not be fostered or
tolerated today or at any time since 1972.

The way to deal with marginal performers is with personal counseling.
If that doesn't work an administrative discharge board is not very
hard to convene.  There are many fine young people who want to be Marines,
and there's no need to engage in the sort of idiocy portrayed in this 
film.

[Just in case anybody's interested, I served on active duty from 1972 until
1981 with two overseas tours of duty.  I've been in the Marine Corps Reserve
since then, including active duty for Desert Storm.]

Please followup by e-mail.  I don't read this newsgroup regularly.

-Bill Gawne,  Space Telescope Science Institute
 GySgt USMCR
From: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: who is dwight frye?
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:53:32 EST
Reply-To: "eliot gelwan" <eliot.gelwan@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

On 12-11-92 QUINN T.MCCORD  wrote:

QTSomeone said that Dwight Frye played Renfield in Dracula.
QTThis name is very familiar, and the guy looked familiar too.
QTWhat else have I seen him in?

You saw him in:

The Maltese Falcon, Frankenstein, The Invisible Man, Bride of
Frankenstein, Fast Company, Adventure in Sahara, Son of
Frankenstein, Man in the Iron Mask, Drums of Fu Manchu, Sky
Bandits, Mystery Ship, People vs. Dr. Kildare, Blonde from
Singapore, The Devil Pays Off, Prisoner of Japan, Ghost of
Frankenstein, Frankenstein Meets the Wolf Man, Dead Men Walk,
Hangmen Also Die, Dangerous Blondes, etc. etc. You would have
seen him in alot more `B' movies, playing (as Halliwell puts it)
"a crazed hunchback," had he not died in 1943.




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