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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:00:30 -0500 
From: Lawrence Curcio <lc2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: What Paint to Use on Styrafoam?

You may want to use rigid polyurethane foam instead of styrofoam. It
looks the same, but it's impervious to most solvents, its stronger, and
it doesn't melt when heated (though it gets soft).

It's a little harder to find, though. Try art stores (it's used in
sculpture). Some boating stores actually stock the resin. You can mold
your own shapes. The resin may not yield a snow-white foam, but you're
going to paint your model anyway.

-Larry C.
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: FAA Message from NAR President
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:33:01 GMT

cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
: 
: Public response to the FAA NPRM is due on or before December 9,
: 1992, and should be sent to the following address:
: 
:                  Federal Aviation Administration
:                      Office of Chief Counsel
:                  Attention:  Rules Docket AGC-10
:                         Docket No. 26965
:                   800 Independence Avenue S.W.
:                     Washington, D.C.   20591
: 
: The NAR hopes you will carefully evaluate its official position
: on the FAA NPRM.  The NAR hopes you will support and endorse this
: position in writing.  You are encouraged to provide a written
: response to the FAA at the above address.
: 
: To be the most effective it is important that all written
: responses arrive at the FAA on or about December 8, 1992.  The
: NAR will file its official position on that date, and the
: coincident support from you will increase the effectiveness of
: this position.
: 
: J. Patrick Miller, President
: National Association of Rocketry

Chris. Is there too much to the FAA proposal to have it all printed
here for us to read? Or, is it going to be published in American
Spacemodeling - before the December deadline?  

If neither is possible, would it be possible to extract, and quote
the pertinent sections from the proposed rules?

Bill
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From: backdoor@rsd.dl.nec.com (Buzz McDermott Local Login)
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions Problem
Organization: NEC America, Radio Software Dept
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:49:13 GMT

If anyone reading r.m.r DOES NOT have a new FAQ posting (5 parts) please
respond directly to me.  There have been a lot of problems recently with
the mail and news server that I use.  I want to make sure that the FAQ DID
get posted and has a reasonable expiration date.  Please do not respond unless
there is a problem.

Thank You... buzz

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From: elder@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Greg Elder)
Subject: Re: NARWIN IV Comments
Followup-To: rec.models.rockets
Reply-To: elder@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Greg Elder)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:22:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.221203.1672@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jsvrc@rc.rit.edu (J A Stephen Viggiano) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.175941.20002@ennews.eas.asu.edu> elder@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Greg Elder) writes:
>
>> NARWIN IV was a NAR regional contest sponsored by
>>the SSS in Phoenix, AZ.  It was held this past weekend (Nov 14-15).
>>Sport flying was also held on both days, with a number of
>>high powered rockets being flown as well.  The largest engines used
>>were in the J range.
>
>You've got my chops watering for the NSL. Will it be on the same field?
>
    Yes.  Our current FAA waiver is for 5000 ft. AGL and J class motors.
I believe we are looking into modifying this for the NSL, if possible.
Someone wanted us to try for an 8000 ft. clearance.  I'll post any additional
details as I become aware of them.

>> Ed LaCroix launched his "Flying Cone".  (That's
>>what I call it, it looks like a big pointed nose cone.  I think it is
>>actually a model of an old design for an ABM, though the actual name
>>escapes me.)
>
>Sounds like a Sprint. I made a few of these (in "not too [sic] scale" versions)
>many years back, from pictures in _Jane's_Weapons_of_Mass_Destruction_, or
>whatever it was called.
Now that I see the name, I believe it was a model of a Sprint.
>
>John Viggiano, jsvrc@rc.rit.edu
>NAR 25615


--
Greg Elder                                        elder@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
Department of Computer Science            or      elder@seine.eas.asu.edu
Arizona State University

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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: NARWIN IV Comments
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:24:31 GMT

cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
: In article <BxzCyK.471@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
: 
: > Hmmm I wonder if a scale bad paint job (like you'd find on the bottom 
: > tier of the 4H rocket club's display) would be looked upon favorably in 
: > this event..
: 
: Where would you get a Q-tip that big?

You take a mop, and cut some of the length off of the cords. Works well
for scaling up the streaking.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
From: sbbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen B. Brown)
Subject: Re: Decals via Laser Printer
Organization: The Ohio State University Radio Observatory
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:35:19 GMT

In article <19921120140049.Roger.Wilfong@umich.edu> Roger.Wilfong@umich.edu  (Roger Wilfong) writes:
>There is laser -> transfer process available for making PC board resist 
>patterns using a laser printer.  I've got something on it at home that I've
>been looking for since this was originally posted.  
> 
>Going from memory, it used special paper/film that you run through a copier 
>or a laser printer.  You do some intermediate steps that produce something 
>that can be dry transfered to a copper clad circuit board.  The 'kit' came 
>with enough material to make several sheets of transfers and they worked out 
>to about $1.50-$2.50 a sheet.  I just have a sales sheet/order blank for it 
>and have not actually used it, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.

I've got something similar for making PC boards.  It's intended for photocopy
machines, but I expect it would also work in a laser printer.  These are
just sheets of a heat resistant plastic, which can take the heat of
the fusing process.  Having photocopied a pattern onto the plastic, you
turn it over, put it on your pc board, and run over with a hot iron.
This transfers the toner onto the pc board.  Then you etch the board--the
toner is the resist.  You can re-use the plastic sheets, once the toner
has been ironed off.

There are at least two complications for using this for decorating rockets.
First, ironing the pattern onto a body tube or fin might be a challenge.
Second, the pattern is reversed, so you'ld need to reverse it before
printing it onto the plastic sheet.
-- 
Steve Brown, N8HFI              sbbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Chief Engineer, The Ohio State University Radio Observatory ("Big Ear")
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
From: Jim Cook <J.Cook@ENS.Prime.COM>
Subject: Re: What happened with FAA?
Reply-To: <J.Cook@ENS.Prime.COM>
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:34:30 GMT

IIn article <1992Nov16.212037.12921@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, hack@aio.jsc.nasa.gov
(Edmund Hack) writes:
>
> By the way, anyone else know why traffic just died over the last week in
> this group?  Everyone else too busybuilding and launching?

1. We suffered a head crash on our root partition.
2. I've been working on my thesis.

J

Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: FAA Message from NAR President
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:31:26 GMT

cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
: In article <1992Nov20.193301.13510@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
: 
: > Chris. Is there too much to the FAA proposal to have it all printed
: > here for us to read? Or, is it going to be published in American
: > Spacemodeling - before the December deadline?  
: 
: Do you mean the FAA's published rule change, or do you mean our response 
: to it?
: 
: The FAA proposal is available on CompuServe, and I could get that.

I was interested in the FAA's published proposed rule change. It would
be nice if you could retrieve that for us who do not access CompuServe.

Thanks
Bill
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
Subject: Re: FAA Message from NAR President
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:58:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com

In article <1992Nov20.193301.13510@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

> Chris. Is there too much to the FAA proposal to have it all printed
> here for us to read? Or, is it going to be published in American
> Spacemodeling - before the December deadline?  

Do you mean the FAA's published rule change, or do you mean our response 
to it?

The FAA proposal is available on CompuServe, and I could get that.

The NAR response is NOT available anywhere but on the lawyer's 
desks at the moment.

I can guarantee you that you won't be seeing a magazine before December
9th.  But that's another thread.
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From: buzz@rsd.dl.nec.com (Buzz McDermott)
Subject: Frequently Asked Questions...repost
Organization: NEC America, Radio Software Dept
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:18:35 GMT

Whoops!!  Due to an error in the expiration date included in the FAQ, it will
be deleted within 24 hours of arrival at most sites.   I am reposting with
the corrected expiration of 19 Dec 1992.

My apologies to those sites that get and keep this twice.

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From: hack@arabia.uucp (Edmund Hack)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
Subject: Decals via Laser Printer
Summary: Any pointers?
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:24:07 GMT
Organization: Lockheed ESC, Houston

I was reading the tech report series from NCR on High Power Rocketry 
and in the section on finishing techniques, they mention a couple of methods
of making decals using laser printers.

First, there is a kind of clear film that is adhesive that will go through
the printer and make a self-stick decal.  Anyone used it and have a pointer
to a brand name and cost?

Second, they mention there is a type of film that can be processed in a
laser printer to make dry transfer decals.  Again, anyone used it and
have a pointer to the brand name and cost?

I'd like to make up a sheet or two of Name/NAR #/TRA # decals or transfers.

-- 
Edmund Hack - Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co. - Houston, TX
hack@aio.jsc.nasa.gov - I speak only for myself, unless blah, blah..
"You know, I think we're all Bozos on this bus."
"Detail Dress Circuits" "Belt: Above A, Below B" "Close B ClothesMode"
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: What Paint to Use on Styrafoam?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:06:19 GMT

In article <Mf3YwCm00iV301JV82@andrew.cmu.edu> Lawrence Curcio <lc2b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>You may want to use rigid polyurethane foam instead of styrofoam. It
>looks the same, but it's impervious to most solvents, its stronger, and
>it doesn't melt when heated (though it gets soft).

>It's a little harder to find, though. Try art stores (it's used in
>sculpture). Some boating stores actually stock the resin. You can mold
>your own shapes. The resin may not yield a snow-white foam, but you're
>going to paint your model anyway.

There is a rigid, fine-grained foam that is sold in craft stores (you
know, the place where you find the popsicle sticks, T-shirt paint, fra-
ming supplies, oil paints, flower arrangement supplies...

Strangely enough the one I like to frequent up in Indy also carries rock-
ets... I used to go there for covering material.

The foam comes in many shapes - donuts, disks, and spheres of various 
sizes.










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From: hack@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (Edmund Hack)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
Subject: Re: What happened with FAA?
Summary: Almost ready
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:20:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: aio.1992Nov16.212037.12921
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Johnson Space Center

In article <19921116140518.Roger.Wilfong@umich.edu> Roger.Wilfong@umich.edu  (Roger Wilfong) writes:
>Several weeks back there was a posting to the effect that the NAR had 
>hit the FAA over the head with a law firm and the FAA was going to 
>publish the proposed FAR 101 changes for comment.
> 
>Does anyone know if this happened?

Yes, the NPRM is out and NAR is readying a response.  There are a few
problems with the proposed rule, mainly with needing to notify the
towers of airports within 5 miles of a rocket from 1 pound to 1500 grams
in weight.

>If yes, 
>  should we write to comment?
>  If yes, where should we write?

The response by NAR counsel is on the order of 60 pages long, according
to a few posts on CompuServe.  What the NAR will do is ask us to write
a letter saying: "I support what the NAR is saying in their response."
When they are ready (soon), they will ask us to write.

>else
>  has it come time to flame?
>  If yes, I assume the usual bunch (senators and congressmen).

By the way, anyone else know why traffic just died over the last week in
this group?  Everyone else too busybuilding and launching?

-- 
| Edmund Hack - Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Co. - Houston, TX
| hack@aio.jsc.nasa.gov    
| "You know, I think we're all Bozos on this bus."
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: NARWIN IV Comments
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:12:24 GMT

In article <1ej8vcINN4er@transfer.stratus.com> cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares) writes:
>In article <BxzCyK.471@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>> Hmmm I wonder if a scale bad paint job (like you'd find on the bottom 
>> tier of the 4H rocket club's display) would be looked upon favorably in 
>> this event..

>Where would you get a Q-tip that big?

They're used for torches on movie sets. Usually cave man epics. Of
course one could _simulate_ the effects of a Q-tip with an airbrush..

And I suppose one would need scale documentation.. pictures taken
at various angles of said 4H exhibit.. I suppose to be true to scale 
one would have to put in that one crooked fin too...

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Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
From: Roger.Wilfong@umich.edu  (Roger Wilfong)
Subject: Re: Decals via Laser Printer
Organization: UofM Hospitals
X-Newsreader: FTPNuz (DOS) v1.0
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:00:00 GMT

In Article <20NOV199210423516@vx.cis.umn.edu> "soc1070                         " says:
> 
> No, I don't think this is the same technique. T-Shirt xfers use heat, don't
> they? I thought Ed was referring to Letraset style lettering (or 
> zip-a-tone), basically, rub down type lettering.
> 
There is laser -> transfer process available for making PC board resist 
patterns using a laser printer.  I've got something on it at home that I've
been looking for since this was originally posted.  
 
Going from memory, it used special paper/film that you run through a copier 
or a laser printer.  You do some intermediate steps that produce something 
that can be dry transfered to a copper clad circuit board.  The 'kit' came 
with enough material to make several sheets of transfers and they worked out 
to about $1.50-$2.50 a sheet.  I just have a sales sheet/order blank for it 
and have not actually used it, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.
 
I'll look for it again this weekend.
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
Subject: Re: What happened with FAA?
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:46:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rocket.sw.stratus.com

In article <1992Nov16.212037.12921@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>, hack@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (Edmund Hack) writes:

> By the way, anyone else know why traffic just died over the last week in
> this group?  Everyone else too busybuilding and launching?

I've been sick!
-- 

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From: sc5@prism.gatech.EDU (CSEPLO,STEPHEN P)
Newsgroups: rec.models.rockets
Subject: Re: NARWIN IV Comments
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:48:13 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov17.175941.20002@ennews.eas.asu.edu> elder@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Greg Elder) writes:
>
>  Ed LaCroix launched his "Flying Cone".  
>  I think it is
>actually a model of an old design for an ABM, though the actual name
>escapes me.
>
It could be a Sprint that was the name for the ABM missile or it 
could be the old Centari Point kit. Both conical birds and some of my
favorites. I actually did a 3 stage custom point one time and it
is probably still talked about by the members of my old club in 
Charlotte, NC. 
-- 

The Mad Hata  

"Hey, Mon....Tako Kichi!"
From: rrg@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Rafael Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale,rec.aviation.military
Subject: P-38 nightfighter version info.
Date: 17 Nov 1992 14:05:58 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

I am looking for info about the cockpit layout for the backseater
station in the nightfighter version of the P-38. I have heaps
of info regarding the front office. But nothing regarding the
back seater.

Does anybody know of any good source for this info?.

(And also layout of the bomber/aimer station on the pathfinder
version of the P-38).

Thanks for the help.

Rafael Rodriguez
From: st1ec@rosie.uh.edu (Tse, Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: Canadian Navy models
Date: 22 Nov 1992 14:49 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <By4MvJ.Fws@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, youngs@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Scott D. Young) writes...
>   Has anyone seen any kits for any Canadian Navy ships out there? In fact,
>   any non-American ships?  Thanks.
> 
>   Scott Young
>   youngs@ccu.umanitoba.ca

Scott, 

I just purchased Matchbox's Flower Class Corvette.  You can build it into the
Canadian version.  Actually, the ship is British, but it did carry the Canadian
flag.  

Oliver
st1ec@rosie.uh.edu
From: cebp04@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: South East Asian airforces
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:06:32 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Thanks for pointing out my bad sentence structure. There is actually a kit for the F8F
but as was pointed out, it is a post WWII plane and of course the Colour scheme is post
WWII as well. There is also a decal sheet for the early Siamese air force. I have not
personally seen this but it may be the markings of the 1930-1940s which consists of a
white elephant on a red background. I do agree that it is possible to paint the markings
on but I have had dificulty with the rather diverse shapes involved e.g. 14 pointed
stars, winged diamonds, Yin-yang shpes etc. I would appreciate any advice on these
matters. As for drawings and photos, they are hard to gather and I would also appreciate
any help on those as well. 
Stephen.
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From: rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray)
Subject: Re: New products just seen (armor and aircraft)
Organization: US WEST Communications, Inc. -- Denver, CO
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:55:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.001328.9217@sj.nec.com>, paul@hagar.tdd.sj.nec.com (Paul Gordon  x3856) writes:
> On the subject of
> the M1A1. I got the non-mine plow version a month ago. Does anyone know if
> the latest one has a corrected turret - i.e. with the 8 inches of addition 
> frontal armor, or is it the same as the earlier version?

Tamiya has announced that the M1A1 with plow will also feature a corrected
turret. That is why I have waited so long to buy an M1... I wanted a correct
turret without shelling out for resin.

Randy
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Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
From: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: Using aluminium foil to mimic metal finish
Reply-To: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 14:33:20 GMT

In article <1ee2pqINNbm4@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, august@sachsen.uni-dresden.de (August Kurfuerst von Sachsen) writes:
>Hallo Freunde,
>
>I'm trying something new on my own--using
>aluminium foil to simulate a metal skin
>on a WWII Japanese fighter aircraft.
>
>I used a REAL thin film of Elmer's glue
>and cut pieces of foil and placed them on
>top. It looks stunning in the middle of
>the piece but toward the edge of it I see
>wrinkles. Despite the rivets and panel
>lines adding realism to the model, I still
>think it could be easier and more realistic.
>
>Does anyone have any recommendation for
>adhesive and where can I get a cheap
>thinner layer of aluminium? My kitchen-use
>aluminium is still too thick to work with.
>
>Your favorite techniques or procedures would
>also be helpful...
>
>I will also be flying to California to do
>business and will be in San Francisco area.
>Please tell me what foil products (adhesives etc.)
>are available there and which are the best
>hobby shops there.
>
>Danke und Tschuess,
>
>S.K.M. Herr Friedrich August, Kurfuerst von Sachsen, Koenig von Polen
>
>
>
If you are coming to the Bay Area, I suggest you try San Antonio Hobbies
in Mountain View and D&J Hobbies in Campbell.  True they are a bit out
of the way if you are in S.F. but I haven't found a well equipped hobby
store in the City (as we call SF) to my liking.  As to other aluminum
foil products, I would suggest Bare-Metal foil.  This is really thin foil
that already has an adhesive backing to it.  Both hobby stores mentioned
carry the product.  Bare-Metal also produces an adhesive, but I'm not sure
if the stores stock that.  I have the address of another mail order outfit
(in fact it may be Bare-Metal's own address) in a back issue of Fine Scale
Modeller.  I will send that to you when I find it.
Kent McClure
Kent M. McClure
Auto racing afficionado and member of San
Jose IPMS chapter.
My views are what they are, like them or not.