From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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Subject: "sipa of delco" and "the fanatic Greeks of our city": expose'.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 19:53:43 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <9211171756.AA25770@kocrsw06.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:

>I do not agree. The idea of a forgery is to hide one's own identity. 
>Whether this is done by using the chickensuit (Argic@zuma), thru

That is the result of watching "karakus" too much, "sipa of delco".
When you have finished dancing with "karakus" I'd suggest you answer
the points scholars raised below. 

  <<The leader of the Ashkenazi community of Corlu complained to the
  president of AIU [Alliance Israelite Universelle] in 1902 about
  persistent Greek attacks against its Jewish quarter:

    ''The fanatic Greeks of our city, as of other places in Thrace,
    have the habit of, contrary to the spirit of real Christianity,
    making a replica of Judas Iscariote and of burning it on the night
    of Holy Saturday. They construct a wooden figure, cover it with
    clothing which they claim is that of the ancient Jews, and they
    burn it publicly in the middle of a multitude of the ignorant and
    the fanatic. It often happens that this multitude, already excited
    by the tales of the suffering of Christ that has been made to them
    at the Church, is exaulted at the appearance of the execution of he
    who is supposed to have betrayed Christ, and works up a great anger
    against the Jews...For a long time we have known that each year,
    on such a day, they will cut off the heads and arms of the corpses
    in our cemetery and will burn them with great solemnity. We make
    no complaint about this in order not to create differences between
    the two communities. But this audacious madness of these fanatics
    has increased. We ourselves see the flames and hear the cries of
    hatred and vengeance against the Jews.''[42]>>

[42] Ashkenazi Community, Corlu, to AIU no.8783, 2 May 1902, in AIU
     Archives (Paris) II C 8, with report printed in El Tiempo of 1 May 1902.

 <<The Greek army that occupied much of southwestern Anatolia starting
   in May 1919 slaughtered thousands of Jews and Muslims in the course
   of its attack, not only during its initial landings at Izmir, but also
   in the interior during the subsequent two years, and particularly
   during its final retreat to Izmir, when it ravaged and burned Bursa
   and other towns and villages along the way. Albert Nabon, Principal
   of the AIU [Alliance Israelite Universelle] Boy's School in Izmir,
   reported to the Alliance on 6 July 1919:

        'The city was put on fire and sacked, the people dispoiled
        of all they possessed. There is no food, putting the entire
        population on general, and our co-religionists in particular,
        in danger of suffering greatly from these privations'

   going on to describe how most Jews, not only from Izmir but also from
   Greek attacks at Aydin, Bergama and Manisa, took refuge in his school,
   where they were suffering from overcrowding, lack of food, and
   medicine. [90]>>

   <<Jewish notables, like the Muslims, were beaten and executed, many
   Jewish homes and shops were ravaged and burned, and hundreds of Jews
   were deported to almost certain death in the countryside. As the Greek
   army retreated in panic late in the war, moreover, it burned the Jewish
   and Muslim quarters of Izmit, Manisa and Bergama, destroying synagogues,
   yeshivas and hospitals as well as homes and businesses while killing
   hundreds and forcing the remainder of the non-Christian population to
   flee in panic, ...[95]>>

[90] Similar reports came from Nabon to the AIU on 2 July 1919 (no.23/915),
     9 July 1919 (no.26/927), 12 July 1919 (no.27/932) and 14 July 1919
     (no. 28/933). In Nabon's report of 17 July 1919 (no.30/935), he stated
     that the Greeks at Aydin had burned 200 Jewish houses and 13 shops,
     had dispoiled all the local Jews of their money and property, and had
     strangled two Jews as well as driving the remainder to seek refuge
     in the local AIU school: 'At Aydin, Manisa, Tire and everywhere else,
     our Jews live in an atmosphere of suspicion by the Greek inhabitants'
     who suspect that they favor the Turks. On 23 July 1920 Nabon reported
     that all the Jews had left Izmir, the synagogue had not been burned, but
     the Greeks had taken all its valuables as well as the property of local
     Jews, and the streets were full of bodies.

[95] Univers Israelite, 2 September 1921, p.467-48, quoted in Guleryuz;
     see also Galante, Anatolie II (1939), 70-100; and 'Manissa', EJ XI,
     878-79.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)