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From: alejandr@phakt.usc.edu (Ruiz Alejandro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Batman Books for sale
Date: 13 Dec 1992 21:03:35 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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Hello Friends. The following are all Batman books or set of Batman books, if
you are interested in one or some, please e-mail me for info, or if you are
sure you want the book, can send an offer.
 
   BATMAN: 149-187-193-232-283-353-370-378-381-382-385-400
           409-412-414-415-416-442-457-465-476-480-ANNUAL14
 
DETECTIVE: 312-362-412-430-458-476-482-486-519-565-568-572
           580-581-582-595-608-612-627
 
SETS & SPECIALS:
     Yr. 1 (HC) - Shadow of the Bat #1 (Polybagged) -
     The Cult (Set) - Batman Gallery - Catwoman Defiant -
     Penguin Triumphant - Robin I #1 - Shadow Box -
     The Return of Scarface - The Many deaths of the Batman
     Gotham Nights - The Idiot Root - Electric City - Mercy
     Prey (signed by Gulacy) - Faith - Flyer - Gothic - Duel
     Family - Destiny - Blades
 
                                   Enjoy.
 
                              GeNie: A.RUIZ1
                           INTERNET: alejandr@aludra.usc.edu

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From: saab@ais.org (Micheal Marks)
Subject: Re: Market Report query
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:49:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.122610.19603@cas.org> wsm26@cas.org (Wayne Mills) writes:
>Have copies of Predator Vs Magnus #1 disappeared off the stands or are
>they still languishing on the shelves in your area?
 
Parked securely on the shelf in my area.  Lots of disappointment expressed
about the card that was supposed to be in it not being in it.
 
The platnium edition sold (hooray!) at $25.  Actually, ANY "platnium" type
book will sell only around the $25 mark around here (like the Wizard 17)
which is low from what I've read about elsewhere.  Whether it's being
smart or being broke I'm not sure about yet.
 
MDM
-- 
"To be the man, you have to BEAT the man" Ric Flair, EX-REAL World's Champion
"I'm gonna hit ya, and you're gonna fall" Ren, and Nick to John K.
"Never underestimate the greed of the American public"  Me
Micheal Marks: saab@umcc.ais.org mmarks@nyx.cs.du.edu IRC:Drstyle
From: dbrown@cs.utk.edu (David Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Switched Page Sandman?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 12:47:24 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Distribution: usa
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Originator: dbrown@duncan.cs.utk.edu

I think that I saw a post about a Sandman issue that contains switched pages.
Was there such a issue? Which issue/page? Is it worth more?

Thanks,
David (dbrown@duncan.cs.utk.edu)

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From: gerry@eng.umd.edu (Gerald Emil Shukert)
Subject: Superman 75
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:22:27 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park


'Something is only worth what people will pay for it...' (my mothers
quote), so if people are paying $20-$50 for it, then I say that's what
it's worth!

-gerry
-- 
Still in search of those BEATLES issues...help me fulfill my dream!!!!

I don't believ in Beatles, I just believe in me...and Yoko<spit>
					-John Lennon
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Re: Superman 75 anecdote
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:00:23 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec15.034253.21934@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60c-3gg@web-1a.berkeley.edu writes:
>In article <Bz3M7A.6I0@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (James Chiu) writes:
>>wesselak@sunc0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak) writes:
>>> bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau) writes:
>>> 
>>> >"Rare?  You know they printed 3 million copies, right?"
>>> 
>>> >I will never forget his reply:
>>> >    "Yeah, but there are 2 and a half billion people in the U.S.
>>> >     and everyone wants a copy"
>>> 
>>> I knew the population explosion was bad, but I didn't know it was THAT bad...
>>> 
>>I went to a comic shop that was selling the comic for $30.
>>
>>I also asked them if they did sell any and they said they sold 3.
>>
>>Later I found out that they lied and actually sold 0.
>>
>>Guess it was a way to make their pricing look reasonable by lying to
>>customers.
>
>Baged Set Superman 75:
>
>My local comic shop was selling 1st print for $10 the day I bought it.
>Two days later, the 1st printing sold out.
>Couple of days after that, 2nd printing arrived, and selling for $20.
>About a week or so later, 2nd printing sold out, they started a waiting
>list for third printing at $20, and the list was LONG.
>
>Is it just me, or are all my neighbors idiots (maybe I'm one too since I
>forked out 10 bucks)?  And just want to know, is this craze catching on/
>still going at other small towns and cities (I won't call Berkeley a big
>city *sigh*)
>
>							J.T.
>
>P.S. maybe I'm more of a idiot since this is the only DC comic I own.

	I think anyone who paid or is paying cover price or more is an
idiot.  Sorry.  There was plenty of advance warning, and anyone with a 
mailbox could have ordered bagged issues at less than cover from mail-
order distributors.  Given that the story sucks, I feel I've been ripped
off
 							Raythrax
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From: jpeg8496@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey P. Elbel)
Subject: DOOMSDAY set $43 post included
Summary: Doomsday for sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:23:09 GMT
Keywords: Death of Superman

Hello, all.  Some of you may not yet be sick of seeing
posts regarding this set for sale.  I understand those
of you who are, but...

If you are still looking for a this set, which includes:

Man of Steel 18
JLA 69
Superman 74
Adventures of 497
Action 684
Man of Steel 19
Superman 75 (polybagged)

I still have these issues available due to a cancelled
order.  $43 seems like a good price compared to auction
prices I've seen locally and on the net.  The set will
go to the first taker.  Postage is included in the price.

All issues NM, 1st print.

Jeff Elbel

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From: djyoung@carina.unm.edu (Danny Young)
Subject: Re: Favorite Writers
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 18:22:40 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Ok Here's my list for favorite writers:  But remember that I'm a super
hero comic fan and I think that most of the quality writers in comics 
are with the lesser known companies.  If only because the don't get to 
experiment as much under a superhero format.

5.  JIM SHOOTER:  This guy can just plain write. I enjoyed the Secret Wars
	and have seen some other promising work from him in Valiant.

4.  ROGER STERN:  Liked his stint on the Avengers, especially the Vision
	domination series.

3.  STEVE ENGLEHART:  This guy has written a lot of stuff I like.  Silver
	Surfer, Vision/Scarlett Witch LS and I think Squadron Supreme LS.
	don't hold me to it though.

2.  FABIAN NICIEZA:  One of my favorites.  I like the New Warriors, X-Force
	and his earlier work.

1.  WALT SIMONSON:  His writing for Thor between 337-382 was by for the 
	most incredible plotline that I have read.  It is amazing how tigh
	t this books are.  I can still read them one after another.  You
	try and do that with other series of comics.

Honorable Mention:  Chris Claremont:  He would probably be higher but I became
	an X-fan to late and couldn't catch up with his plots.


-- 
the Mighty Joe Young

djyoung@carina.unm.edu

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From: castle@cs.dal.ca (JULIAN GUTHRIE CASTLE)
Subject: Re: alt.superman: not just one group, I'm afraid to say.
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:44:24 GMT

In article <1g9bluINNnvg@mozz.unh.edu>, mre@kepler.unh.edu (Santa MikE) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec10.063536.20126@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang) writes:

|> It's worse than you think, August Paul.  There are actually two alt.superman
|> groups out there--alt.death.superman and alt.superman.dead.dead.dead

It's worse than you think, Mike.  There's a third alt.superman group

alt.comics.superman

|> 	--MikE...thinking about starting alt.dc.die.die.die

why not alt.bigtwo.destroythestatusquo ?

Yours Sincerely,
	Julian Castle

///////
  o-o / o o o  #@$()& bus left early and I now I can't see
   <  /        "The Tune" by Bill Plympton  (my favourite
   -  /        is one of his methods to quit smoking 'Use
///////        heat-seeking missiles' )
From: klein@egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Trivia Question
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:24:12 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University College of Stunt Piloting

In article <1992Dec15.051605.18864@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.041304.24069@engr.LaTech.edu>, wfuller@latech.edu (William G. Fuller) writes:

[...]
>
>> In what film was the question posed, "If Superman and Might Mouse
>> got into a fight who would win?"
>
>STAND BY ME.  But the really interesting part was the answer:
>	"Superman, of course!  Mighty Mouse is a cartoon, and real
>	 life always beats cartoons."  (paraphrased)

(But it'd be a good fight, though)

This also answers the eternal question, "What if the Enterprise 
fought the SDF-1?"

-- 
Jeff Klein             | "Happily, Ral doffs his outer clothing for a
Browsing Boy of the LNH|  refreshing dip in one of the dangerous 
klein@frith.egr.msu.edu|  chemical vats." - Ty Templeton 
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:34:19 -0500 
From: "James D. Zelenka" <jz1j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: GL Mosaic (Whazzup w/ This?)

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.misc: 16-Dec-92 GL Mosaic (Whazzup
w/ This?) Robert McMullen@askinc.a (1161)

> I think the politics of the Mosaic world could be better investigated
> and told in mature-reader format.

Possibly. Actually, I just think they could be better investigated by
someone other than Gerard Jones, who's been doing at best a mediocre job
so far. While I think it could benefit from the freedom that would come
with being a mature-reader title, I think it would gain more from a
better writer. I guess both would be too much to ask for :-). (A Grant
Morrison Mosaic world would be a very interesting place...)

-jim
jz1j@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: timm@cs.uwp.edu (Mardi Timm)
Subject: Lash LaRue comics
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:53:12 GMT


I am looking for anyone who might have some old Lash LaRue comics.  These
date back to the late 1940's and early 1950's.  Please let me know if you
have any.  

I can be reached at   timm@cs.uwp.edu or by phone at (414) 637-5971

thanks,

Mardi.....................

-- 
******************************************************************************* 
Mardi Timm				*  Imagine ---- Just Another Adventure 
timm@cs.uwp.edu				*  
3004 Olive Street			*  Searching for genealogical info on
From: khale@camilla.Eng.Sun.COM (Abhijit Khale)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Date: 19 Dec 1992 02:50:39 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: camilla

In article <1992Dec18.214845.20610@netcom.com> solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay) writes:
>
>                The Annotated Stanley And His Monster
>                                   
>                          by Andrew Solovay
>                                   
>                  Issue 1:  How to Build a Tree Fort
>      Phil Foglio, Chuck Fiala, John Costanza, Robbie Busch, and
>                           Paul Kupperberg
>        Panel 3: "A nameless one": Stanley's Monster, who is always
>referred to as "the monster" or "Spot". This is a retcon. The Monster
>was originally a good-tempered monster; Foglio has made him a demon
>exiled from Hell.

Incidentally, this particular origin was established before in Secret Origins
#48 (?), in another story by Foglio. 
>        Panel 6: "Two of them": Remiel has forgotten about Azazel, who
>is (presumably) still imprisoned in the Dreaming. But then, Azazel
>isn't "running around loose".

Also Ellie from Hellblazer (although she may not count as she's a succubus.).
And the other demon lord (whose name I cant remember) who popped up
in Demon recently. 

>        Panel 2: "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" was a popular 70s book.
>I have no idea what it was about. 

Would you believe it was about a seagull ? 
  
>Page 3: Panel 4: "Gotham City a Swamp": Presumably refers to the
>incident in Swamp Thing (what issue?) when Swampy turned Gotham into a
>swamp to force it to release his lover, Abby Cable (who had been
>charged with "Crimes Against Nature"). 

Swamp Thing # 53. 

>        Panels 2-3: The text balloons indicate that this is Dream,
>master of the Dreaming, the central character of Neil Gaiman's
>"Sandman".  However, Dream is dressed like the Golden Age Sandman.
>This is a joke.

I believe Foglio wanted to use Dream and DC said no ... obviously they
were being a bit anally retentive since Dream has appeared in Ambush Bug
before. 


Abhijit
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Why does PAD *stay* on the net?
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 06:55:39 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <1992Dec19.131933.22004@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>

I stay on the net because I'm interested in what people have to say.
And because if people miss the point of something I've tried to do,
I can take that as an indication of what I should be doing to try and
improve as a writer--something that I will be endeavoring to do until
about ten minutes after I'm dead.

X-Factor #87, for example (the current issue) grew out of the sense I was
getting that readers were not clear on what was making these characters
tick.  *I* knew, and I was trying to communicate it in a subtle fashion.
Unfortunately, most readers of mutant titles seem accustomed to the 
sledge-hammer method of characterization (long angst-ridden internal
monologues).  Since I was disdaining that approach, readers seemed to assume
that all the characterizations were superficial.  So I decided I wanted to
get across what was really below the surface of the characters, but without
using the usual aforementioned LARIM.  Hence the psychiatrist set-up.

Considering that Joe Quesada arrived on the book and I informed him that
his first issue was going to be 22 slam-bang pages of therapy, I thought he
took it rather well...

PAD
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From: jsweet@irvine.com (Jerry Sweet)
Subject: Gaiman and Hoyle
Organization: Irvine Compiler Corp., Irvine, California, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:21:38 GMT

The jet travel and driving scenes in the recent Sandman story line
reminded me strongly of a short story from ``Element 79,'' a
collection of short stories by Fred Hoyle (mid-1970s).

The story in mind had Dionysius awakening without the other gods and
goddesses, and taking a trip to Earth.  He gets into a car, drives
maniacally, and is stopped by a rude highway patrolman, who winds up
tied to the front bumper.  Dionysius then drives to an airport and
takes a jet, where he causes all sorts of trouble on the aircraft.

Can't remember the rest too well (it's been a long time since I read
the story), but it seemed that the story pointed out that too many
persons lose something by having have their senses stuffed up by
modern entertainment devices and by having their emotions stifled.

Anyone remember the name of the story?  (And feel free to razz me if I
got the author wrong---but I know that I have the name of the book
right.)
From: omni@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Omniscient fool)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Signal to Noise is out
Date: 18 Dec 1992 09:46:51 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu
Summary: Dark Horse release


I swung by my local comics store today, and found a copy
of Gaiman and McKean's Signal to Noise waiting for me.
This is the American Dark Horse edition folks have been
waiting for.  I'll post comments after I actually read
the thing, but in the meantime bring an extra $11.95 to
the comic shop this week.

-- 
Craig Jackson      ---      Omniscient fool      ---      omni@ucscb.ucsc.edu
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From: mss2@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:44:44 GMT

In article <lsmith.724816545@atto> lsmith@atto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:

>>Page 14: Stanley is wearing a Flash t-shirt.

>The Flash shirt would have a slightly different lightning bolt over a
>white circle. This looks like a Captain Marvel shirt.

	Could either be Golden Age Flash or Captain Marvel-- the bolt
isn't _quite_ right for either, though closer to Cap's, I think.

Mike
-- 
Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS	"Indeed I tremble for my country
mss2@midway.uchicago.edu	 when I reflect that God is just."
mike.schiffer@um.cc.umich.edu	 -- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on
mschiffer@aal.itd.umich.edu	    Virginia (1784)
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From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (The Mantle Clinic)
Subject: Re: James Bond: Serpents tooth
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:17:28 GMT

c60b-3fe@e260-3f.berkeley.edu  writes:
> 
>    My brother has been collecting the James Bond: Serpents tooth series
> out by Moench and Gulacy from Darkhorse.  The first two issues came out
> but its been a few months since #2 came out and we were wondering if
> anyone knows if anything has happened to delay its release.

Gee, you don't suppose that something like what happened to the
Grell Bond thing (a delay of the last issue by a few years) is
going to happen to this one too? 
--
                     A helpless victim of society...
                                Curt Tsui
                            curt@Virginia.EDU
From: mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Creation of rec.arts.comics.sandman replies
Date: 16 Dec 1992 18:30:20 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Dec15.210541.841@zooid.guild.org> Greg Clow <ecurrent@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>mikecap@weierstrass.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:
>>
>>First off, there is hardly enough traffic for the creation of a Sandman
>>newsgroup, it would just be wasting bandwidth, and at times when it is
>>not popular, it would be dead air.
>
>Although I don't agree totally (there are a hell of a lot of Sandman posts 
>on a fairly regular basis), I can see your point to an exent.  A 
>compromise would perhaps be rec.arts.comics.vertigo, which would encompass 
>discussion all of DC's "mature readers" titles that will be under the 
>Vertigo imprint as of January.  

I agree that this might actually work.  This would clean out Hellblazer posts
and Sandman, etc.  But what is the point?  If we did this with every title,
we would end up with a million different newsgroups, one for each comic.
What would be the point then of rec.arts.comics.misc?  My argument is that 
this group is meant to be a catch-all for such things as all of these posts.
So what if there are more Sandman posts right now?  It's just that the book is
popular right now.  How many "Death of Superman" posts have there been 
recently?  Not too many since it's no longer an issue.  When Sandman is 
cancelled or loses popularity, the same will happen there.  I just don't see 
why we should go to the trouble and waste more space.

>
>Greg
>ecurrent@zooid.guild.org
>
>--- WinQwk 2.0 a#0

Mike C.  (Zen)
-- 
Unlike subject-object metaphysics the Metaphysics of Quality does not insist on
a single exclusive truth. If subjects and objects are held to be the ultimate 
reality then we're permitted only one construction of things - that which
corresponds to the "objective" world - and all other constructions are unreal.
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From: ast2r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Andrew Symons Troth)
Subject: Re: DC AIDS PSAs
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:54:04 GMT

In article <lis.724682958@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
>In the last several weeks, DC has done a number of one-page public
>service ads about AIDS featuring various DC heroes.  These have
>appeared in both DC comics and in other Time/Warner magazines (I first
>saw them in Entertainment Weekly)  So far I've seen:
>Robin and Alfred, as drawn by the Robin miniseries people,
>John Stewart, as drawn by Pat Broderick,
>Flash--who drew this one??
>	Any others that I've missed?

The John Stewart one was pencilled by Joe Staton, not Pat Broderick.
I've also seen a Blue Beetle/Booster Gold piece, with pencils by Jurgens.
The inks on all the ones I've seen look like Klaus Janson's--someone I
	forgot to include on my "worst inkers" list. Not to mention
	"worst pencillers".
>
>Also, the vertigo titles this month have a 6 page Gaiman/Mckean 
>"Death Talks About Life" giving more detail for the "mature readers"  
>specified on the cover.  Very well handled; I recommend reading it.
>[The cover of the book (in this case, Shade 32) mentions the special
>insert.]
>
>Hopefully, this will inform some people who miss other messages.
>I also hope that DC won't get in any trouble with "morality groups"
>for aiming such information at kids...
>
I haven't seen the "mature readers" one yet (of course, if it does cross
	somebody's line, it's not likely to be someone who will pay 
	attention to the fact that the book is designated for adults)
	but the one-pagers have seemed to me entirely tasteful and 
	tactful by any standard I can think of. They're well done: they
	convey a sense of urgency and importance, urge people to get 
	more information and to think about what they're doing, but
	they're not so heavy-handed as to outrage anyone, or to turn off
	the audience they're trying to appeal to. Hey, DC occasionally
	does something right. You'd think they could have picked a 
	decent inker, though. <sigh>
-- 
>--------------->Elisabeth Anne Riba * lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu<---------------
>   Do not meddle in the affairs	    |  Usenet is like Tetris for people
>   of cats, for they are subtle     |  who still remember how to read.
>   and will piss on your computer.  |	  So many newsgroups, so little time...

cheers,
	ast
From: lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Annotated Stanley & His Monster #1
Date: 19 Dec 92 13:37:07 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:

>In article <lj53fvINN4n5@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>, khale@camilla.Eng.Sun.COM (Abhijit Khale) writes:
>> 
>> >        Panel 2: "Jonathan Livingston Seagull" was a popular 70s book.
>> >I have no idea what it was about. 
>> 
>> Would you believe it was about a seagull ? 

>It was a methaphorical story.  :-)  Now, who was the author?

The author's last name was Bach.  I forget the first name, though.
-- 
--------------->Elisabeth Anne Riba * lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu<---------------
   Do not meddle in the affairs	    |  Usenet is like Tetris for people
   of cats, for they are subtle     |  who still remember how to read.
   and will piss on your computer.  |	  So many newsgroups, so little time...
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