From: crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun)
Subject: Re: Here's why I love this guy...
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:16:51 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

In article <17NOV199220071916@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu> mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
>In article <mpf1.722036329@Isis.MsState.Edu>, 
>mpf1@ra.msstate.edu (Morris P. Fields) writes...
>> 
>>Sounds as though you would have everthing given to you rather
>>than work for what you get.
>>If your problem is that you do not like us because ofsomething that
>>was done a long time ago or by some idiot then all I can say to you
>>is:
>>	Grow up. Get a life. and stop being one of the problems
>>	and start helping those of us that want to treat everyone
>>	for what there are and not what they look like and what they
>>	believe in.
>> 
>> 
>>Elliot, start trying to work at tearing down the walls not rebuild them.
>> 
>>		Morris Fields.
>>		Miss. State Univ.
>>		These are my opinions and that's all.
>> 
>Thanks for your reply Morris, but you (and most other respondants) have 
>missed the point completely.  The point is, if people are going to be 
>discriminated against because of the group to which they belong, it is from 
>within those groups that they need to work to erase that discrimination.  
>To suppress a race or a group for hundreds of years and then say to them: 
>"just forget about everything you've been through, just forget that as a 
>member of a class you have lost rights that others have enjoyed, and on 
>your own, by yourself, *****+++++>>>>> be 'excellent <<<<<+++++*****."

There is an important difference between people banding together to guarantee
their individual rights, and people banding together to guarantee their group
rights.  A society which respects individual rights can be tolerant and
liberal and provide the widest latitude for human achievement and happiness.
A society that respects group rights is a society which institutionalizes
racism, limits the latitude for human achievement, guarantees division and
separatism, and precludes tolerance and harmony.  Look around you and see which
we have today.

>
>I say to that, hogwash.
>
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>| Elliott Mitchell
>|  Peabody College at Vanderbilt University
>|  Nashville, Tenn. Home of the Grand Ole Opry
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