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From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
Subject: Re: Latest Tuva Concert Listing
Date: 10 Jan 1993 06:15:48 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Jeff Dickson (dickson@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca) wrote:
: Here is the latest list of concerts.  Note that there are changes from
: previous postings.   It is highly recommended that you call in advance.


: Jan 27-28       Hanover, New Hampshire: Dartmouth College.
:                 Call (603) 646-1393.
: Jan 29          Amhearst College.  Call (603) 646-1393.
: Jan 30          Ohio: Oberlin College
:                 Call (603) 646-1393
: Feb 3           UC Santa Cruz. Call (408) 459-2857

Hm - if the Tuvans are going to be in Ohio end of Jan then might it be
possible to get them to head up north a tad to Michigan before they
hit sunny California again?  A good place to talk to might be the
Ark (Dave Siglin, +1 313 761 1800), or perhpas the Michigan Theater
(sorry no phone) to arrange a booking in Ann Arbor.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB

Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: emillan@cs.uiuc.edu (Emilio Millan)
Subject: Re: Ted Levin
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:33:50 GMT

In article <1itdr0INNro7@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> gagaku@cats.ucsc.edu
(Fredric Lieberman) writes:
>
>To reach Ted Levin (who produced the Smithsonian CD of Tuvan
>singing) just contact the music department at Dartmouth College.
>I don't know if Ted is on the net.

All Dartmouth folk have e-mail addresses (though not all read
e-mail).  Try:

                 Theodore.C.Levin@Dartmouth.EDU




Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: yackob@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Kerry-ool Yackoboski)
Subject: Tuvans on US TV / Additional Concerts
Organization: Elect. & Comp. Eng., U of Manitoba - Tuvan Instruments Corp.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:14:26 GMT

IF anyone is interested in booking the Tuvans, I encourage you to
go ahead and try.  The West Coast mastermind is Ralph Leighton
(phone or FAX at (213) 221-TUVA in North America), but the Eastern
segment is being organized by Professor Ted Levin, who might still be
a Visiting associtate Professor in the World Music Program at Wesleyan
University, but I'm not sure about that and I don't know where this
particular Wesleyan U is.

In addition, I encourage everyone to bring the singers to the attention
of any TV shows they think might be interested - Letterman, Hall, etc.
I helped get the ball rolling by bringing them to the attention of the
Tonight Show but they said they weren't interested - perhaps if we get
the big guns out they'll change their mind, so give it your best try.
  The singers have beeen getting great press in the LA area, with a few
  articles in the LA Times (even a colour photo!) and in other LA area
  papers, radio, and TV shows.

  Hoping to bring Tuvan culture to the forefront of Joe Average's
  mind, Kerry.

  P.S. give me suggestions on what aspects of the Tuvan tour (if any!)
  you want to read about.  No one ever posts here, but everyone tells
  me they read it!
--
<yackob@ee.umanitoba.ca>     One likes to believe in the freedom of khoomei.
From: gagaku@cats.ucsc.edu (Fredric Lieberman)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
Subject: Ted Levin
Date: 12 Jan 1993 03:27:28 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rufus.ucsc.edu
Summary: He's at Dartmouth now


To reach Ted Levin (who produced the Smithsonian CD of Tuvan
singing) just contact the music department at Dartmouth College.
I don't know if Ted is on the net.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva,alt.culture.tamil
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Subject: FREE STOCKS NEWSLETTER!
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: mcgonig@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Gordon McGonigal)
Subject: Re: Tuvans on US TV / Additional Concerts
Organization: Dept. of Elect. & Comp. Engineering, U of Manitoba
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:28:18 GMT

yackob@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Kerry-ool Yackoboski) writes:
>  P.S. give me suggestions on what aspects of the Tuvan tour (if any!)
>  you want to read about. 

Do they put their pants on one leg at a time?

Dmeur Homous!

--
                                   * * *
Gord McGonigal                                  mcgonig@eeserv.ee.UManitoba.ca
Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, CANADA (R3T 2N2)       phone: (204) 474-6295
Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: kerryy@bnr.ca (Kerry Yackoboski)
Subject: Re: White Men Can't Khoomei
Reply-To: kerryy@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Ottawa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 13:20:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.030355.1226@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, upton@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Michael Upton) writes:
|> Subject:White Guys Can't Khoomei
|> 
|> So don't be too intimidated, I'm sure you have to be a native to
|> be good, but anyone can have fun (guys at least).
|> 
|> Anyone know if Ralph can do it?

  Yes, he can - I've heard him.  In addition, there's a man in
Montreal who is planning on competing in the Hoomei Symposium in Kyzyl
either this summer or next.  He doesn't expect to win, but it would be
neat to be the first westerner to compete and to make a respectable
showing.

|> I add my support to an Ann Arbor Tuva stop. Should we get active
|> in trying to set this up?

If you want to see it, you'd better get to work today.  You don't
have a lot of time if you want to add a stop to the north-east leg
of the tour.  It's probably a lot easier for you to travel a great
distance to see them than to add a concert at this late date.  I
mean, after I've traveled 3,000 miles one way to see them, a few
hundred miles seems like nothing (and is certainly worth it).

regards, Kerry
Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy)
Subject: TO Babak Sehari
Followup-To: alt.culture.tuva
Organization: Yale University--Genetics
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:16:59 GMT

In article <sehari.726197332@du139-208.cc.iastate.edu>, you wrote:
> 
> ---
> 
> What type of new innovation, software or products do you want to be
> introduced to the market place.  No answer is stupid.  The things
> that might be unachievable to you, might be very easy to produce
> by others.  You could become part of history by initiating the process of
> innovation.
> 
> Send your answers, along with it's possible applications to me via
> Email.  We might be able to produce things that you might never thought
> possible, for you. My Email Address is sehari@iastate.edu.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
>                        With highest regards,
>                             Babak   Sehari.
> 
> P.S.  This message is being automatically posted to all unix wide bbs'. 
> This post does not mean that I approve or disapprove this newsgroup.  Also,
> the moderator of the moderated newsgroups, such as rec.humor.funny, should 
> decide if they want this posting in their newsgroup.
> 
> -- 

THIS IS THE WORST VIOLATION OF NET*ETIQUITTE I HAVE SEEN IN A LONG
TIME!  I SUGGEST SYSTEM ADMINISTRATORS PUT THIS TURKEY INTO THEIR
KILLFILES!  CROSSPOSTING IN GENERAL SHOULD BE RESERVED FOR MATTERS
OF *SPECIAL* INTEREST TO MULTIPLE GROUPS.  UNIVERSAL CROSSPOSTING
IS REALLY SUBDOLOUS!

Matt Healy
"I pretend to be a network administrator; the lab
 net pretends to work!"

matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: yackob@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Kerry-ool Yackoboski)
Subject: Great Googly Moogly / Lumpy Gravy
Organization: Elect. & Comp. Eng., U of Manitoba - Tuvan Instruments Corp.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:02:21 GMT

As I reflect on the great warehouse of Tuvan stories I gained
last week in LA, I realize that there are one or two I should
keep quiet about, so as not to steal Ralph Leighton's thunder.
However, I think this one anecdote is intersting enough to
spread without taking away from any future Leighton books...
:-)


If the subject heading seems unfamiliar, all will become clear.  The
most unbelievable aspect of my view of the Tuvan trip to LA (history as
I see it... :-) ) occurred as Ralph Leighton and hardcore volunteers
set the stage before last Tuesday's concert at Caltech.

As Ralph describes it, he was struggling to arrange the stage quickly
before the audience arrived, when a dishevelled man approached and
persistently asked to speak to Ralph.  Ralph relented, and the man
produced his business card....Matt Groening.  Matt then explained that
he had heard the Tuvans on the radio and his friend Frank Zappa wanted
to attend the concert but couldn't make it (is this getting
unbelievable yet?).  Nevertheless, Zappa was having the Irish band The
Chieftans over to his place on Friday (that would be last Friday) and
wanted to invite the Tuvans to come over to his home recording studio
at the same time.  (Note that I am NOT making this up...:-)) .
Anyway, Ralph and the Tuvans went, and we'll have to wait for the next
Friends of Tuva newsletter for the outcome.


So, any bets on which we see first - Tuvans on a Chieftans album, or
Tuvans on the Simpsons?

Still shocked beyond description, Kerry.
--
<yackob@ee.umanitoba.ca>     One likes to believe in the freedom of khoomei.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: dickson@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (Jeff Dickson)
Subject: Re: Free concert at Caltech
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:12:51 GMT

larisa@tcville.edsg.hac.com (Larisa Stephan) writes:

>It featured demonstrations of several varieties of hoomei, two Tuvan
>folk stories told in English, and a song performed by all three singers.
>Ralph Leighton introduced each piece and told an anecdote about how the
>Tuvans spent half a day chasing horses around a field in search of three
>which would fit in the harnesses they had brought to use in the Rose
>Parade.  I had actually been wondering whether they would bring horses
>or rent them here.


Ralph actually looked into bringing the horses over.  The cost wasn't too
bad (the company classified Tuva as part of Europe), but the logistics
were a little much.  Ralph had enough last minute scrambling to get
the singers over as it was.

>Afterwards we had the opportunity to purchase numerous Tuva-related
>items from the Friends of Tuva, which seemed to be staffed entirely by
>Usenet posters.  Hmmmmm!  I got to meet Kerry Yackoboski finally (after
>all his postings) and I think it was Jeff who sold me my souvenir Buddha
>watch.  After I get some help from Mom I'll be able to explain exactly
>what it commemorates; my memory of Cyrillic characters is so bad I can
>only make out even the pronunciation of a couple of the words.

I wasn't selling watches, but I'll ask what they commemorate.


As for missing the chance to tape the Tuvans on national television, well,
we ain't done yet...  Stay tuned.

Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: ftit@po.engin.umich.edu (Sergej Roytman)
Subject: Re: Latest Tuva Concert Listing
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 10:38:38 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: ftit@po.engin.umich.edu


In article <1ioev2INNl1b@nigel.msen.com>, emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
|Jeff Dickson (dickson@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca) wrote:
|: Here is the latest list of concerts.  Note that there are changes from
|: previous postings.   It is highly recommended that you call in advance.
|Hm - if the Tuvans are going to be in Ohio end of Jan then might it be
|possible to get them to head up north a tad to Michigan before they
|hit sunny California again?
|

Agreed!

|  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.tuva
From: tayer@athena.mit.edu (Le Grand Toby Orange)
Subject: montreal khoomei
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:40:02 GMT

The man in Montreal is Bernard Dubreuil (sp?).  I met him at a juggling 
convention in Montreal last summer, where he performed some singing (which
got a great response) and led two days of harmonic singing workshops.  I 
attended and can now make some multiple notes which I like, but which I'm
sure would appeal to very few others.

Bernard had some shirts he was wearing about a trip to Tuva some time ago.
There was some alliteration like Yaks, Yurts, and something else...
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: "Samir Shah" <sshah3@twg.com>
Subject: Recipe for Kosambri wanted
Sensitivity: Personal
Encoding:  16 TEXT , 4 TEXT 
Conversion: Prohibited
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Inc., Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: ca,ba,usa,local,world,na
Conversion-With-Loss: Prohibited
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:43:30 GMT

Hi !!

        Whereas I do think I would be able to dish it up from memory, it would make a difference
if someone out there could outline the EXACT steps to make it.

        Also the pros and cons of using "karretu" instead of "sauthekai" might be an interesting
topic to discuss right now. Any takers ?

        I did hear someone mention Bisi Bele Bath. Well, sometime ago I had posted my delicious
recipe and sadly, I dont possess it now and instead of keying it in again, maybe someone who has
stored it can do the needful.

Regards,
-samir



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Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: din@dasher.cc.bellcore.com ()
Subject: Prof. Mariyappa Bhat Samsmarana Samithi
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 16:10:54 GMT
Keywords: kannada


My next posting is a TKS-format Kannada file - use your
tks program to read it.

It is a flyer I received a few days ago from Madras,
about "Prof. M. Mariayappa Bhat Samsmarana Samithi".

If you cannot read the Kannada format, please send
me e-mail and I can FAX you either the English version
or the Kannada version.

Dinesh Nettar
din@cc.bellcore.com

--
From: bt294@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sarah Dufresne)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Looking for Kannadigas in Arizona
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:42:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Dear Netters-- 
 
A friend/colleague of mine from Karnataka is coming  
to the U.S. soon to study in Arizona for 9 months.   
I'm looking for some Kannada speakers in that area  
who might be interested in making contact with him.   
He'll be based at A.S.U. in Phoenix/Tempe, but he
may also do some travelling (I'm not yet sure 
where yet).   
 
Also, any words of wisdom about the social scene there, 
restaurants, temples, etc., will be much appreciated. 
 
Please respond via e-mail (preferred), postings, 
or snail-mail: 3267 Desota Rd., Cleveland Hts, OH 44118 
 
Thanks a lot for any information you can give! 
 
S. 
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
From: pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan)
Subject: SEASONS - Program of Indian Dances in MN
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Distribution: mn
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:51:43 GMT



		Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
		~~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~ 
			presents


		   " S E A S O N S "
		   * * * * * * * * *

		 The seasons of India
		  interpreted through
	       classical and folk dances

		       Performers :

	Rita Mitra Mustaphi and students (Kathak)
	Rani and Aparna Ramaswamy (Bharata Natyam)
	Sohini Ray (from New York, Manipuri)
	Gujarati Group (Gujarati Folk Dances)
	Ethnic Dance Theater of MN (Folk Dances)

	Mala Ganguly (from LA, Vocal)
	David Whetstone (Sitar)
	Prabhas Moghe (Sitar)
	Allalaghatta Pavan (Tabla)
	Suresh (from Cincinatti, Mridangam)

When  : Saturday, Jan. 16, 1993 (2:00 p.m and 7:30 p.m)
Where : St. Paul Student Center, 2017 Buford Ave., St. Paul, MN, 55108
Tickets : General Admission $ 9.00
	  Advance (before Jan 15), Students, Seniors and Members of Minnesota
	  Dance Alliance and India Club of India - $ 7.00
Info  : Nritya Jyoti Dance Inc.
	(612)894-8795
	(612)537-8291
--
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pavan@umn-cs.cs.umn.edu		Off: 612-626-7509 	Res:612-341-0708
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From: akumar@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Re: Somaari kannadigare!!
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:55:22 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <Jan.9.16.41.47.1993.8694@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, sundare@gandalf.rutgers.edu (C.V. Sundaresh) writes:
> Enri Murthygale,
>                Summane net male kacchado badalu(soc.culture.telegu), somaari
> aagirodu better alva. At least swalpa quality articles baritha idaralla.
> Kshamisi, joke madthaidini. 
>                By the way, has anyone noticed the recent boom of Pubs in
> Bangalore. About four years ago there were only a handfull. Now, there is 
> atleast one on every street. Even conservative areas like Basavanagudi has
> a lot of them. The main frequenters of these places are students. Pub licences
> are given out like cinema tickets; the difference being that cinema tickets are
> limited to the no. of seats. I know, the Govt. earns a lot of revenue because
> of this, but I feel that licences should not be given in residential areas
> and near schools. 
> What do you guys feel? Comments welcome.
> 
> Sundaresh
> Rutgers University
> sundare@gandalf.rutgers.edu
   There was an article recently which said that the Moily govt will not
issue any new bar licences nor renew the old ones on the Highways.
 Tha cause: Increase in the number of accidents.

maybe if we could come up with  a populistic reason - schools may be spared
the sight of pubs/bars.

Hari K Reddy
Dayton,Ohio.
From: gna@vardhan.uucp (G N Ananda Vardhana)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Bangalore-Mysore-Udupi Prayana -- Geetha
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:04:57 GMT
Reply-To: gna@vardhan.uucp (G N Ananda Vardhana)
Organization: Adams Software, Lake Oswego OR  USA

Kanndiga Bandugallalli vinanthi

	This is in reply to Geetha's request for travel info. Since my 
	reply mode failed I am posting it as a fresh one.

	Bangalore - Mysore	90 Miles	3 hours of driving distance.
	Mysore - Belur/Ha;ebedu 60 Miles	2 hours
	Bangalore - Mangalore	300 Miles	8 hours
	Mysore - Shravana Balagula 60 miles	2 hours
	Mangalore - Udupi	45 Miles	1 hour
	Magalore - Padubidre	??		1 hour

	Mysore Dasprakash Paradise, Yadava giri
	Mangalore Mothi Mahal, Summer Sands Ullala
	Udupi Kidyoor Hotel

	I was in Mysore for 24 years and then left it in 1981. So am bit
	out of touch. I am from Magalore and my wife from Udupi. I have been
	to all these places might be atleast 5 times cycling and once by 
	walking. 
	Mysore - Hunsur - Periyapatna - Kushalnagara - Madikeri - 
	Sullya - Puttur (Birth palace) - Mangalore - Udupi - Agumbe
	Mangalore - Ujire - Dhrmasthala - Charmadi - Hassana - Belur - 
	Halebeedu
	Mysore - Srirangapatana - Pandvapura - Shravanabelagulla

	As I have always travelled by cycle once I new the exact distance
	and every mile stone in their. Now it more then 10 years and 
	have only pleasnt memories but not the mathematical details.

	In Mysore I stayed in Sarawathipuram, 8th cross (Good old days!!)

	Any way good luck in your travel. I havent been to India for more then
	3 years now. Say Hi to Gomata for me! will you??

anand
From: gna@vardhan.uucp (G N Ananda Vardhana)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Swara Prasthara
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:39:45 GMT
Reply-To: gna@vardhan.uucp (G N Ananda Vardhana)
Organization: Adams Software, Lake Oswego OR  USA

Kannadiga Bandugallalli Vinanthi

I am out in Portland, Oregon. We are trying to teach our daughter 
Karnatic music since nobody around here teaches it. I would like
to know if somebody has the Swara Prasthara meaning: The poem
is written in one line and on the bottom "Sa ri ga ma pa da ni sa"
is written. If one knows the raga in general then using this one
can easily play it on a keyboard.

Please let me know. I am interested in any popular kannada keerthane, 
bajane of Purandara vittal, koodala sangama etc... or like Lambodara, 
Varaveena etc...

Savirada Ondu Dhanyavadagalu

aananda vardhana



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From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka,rec.arts.poems,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: soc.culture.lang.bengali
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:37:02 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Everyone,

You probably know that the charter for the creation of soc.culture.lang.bengali
is under debate in news.groups. Please take part in the debate and 
make it more lively. And all follow ups of this article should
be sent to news.groups.

Just a reminder.

Bijoy Sagar.

Ps: Voting period will begin in 26 days.

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