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From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Advice need on buying a REAL oboe
Date: 9 Oct 1992 14:54:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, gpr@midiline.la.ca.us (Gary Richardi) says:

>A co-worker wants to buy an oboe for her son. She was floored to find 
>that a good USED oboe goes for about $2k. I only have experience buying 
>rock&roll stuff (guitars, keys, amps, pa's, etc). How does one get a deal 
>on an oboe? Most of the music shops I frequent don't even carry band 
>instruments. Can she buy through a school? Any advice would be 
>appreciated. ----- Gary -----
>gary_richardi@vnet.ibm.com
>
>-----
>gpr@midiline.la.ca.us (Gary Richardi) 
>MIDILine BBS (midiline.la.ca.us) - Altadena CA - (818)797-3285
>


Heh heh heh... Welcome to the world of REAL instruments. That IS a good deal on
a _good_ used oboe. You ought to see the price of a NEW one... or any other
professional grade wind instrument. $5k isn't unheard-of, and they can go
higher... MUCH higher.

You didn't say how OLD her son was. I wouldn't even consider letting a less-than
high-school-age student play oboe. It's too big an investment, and too
difficult to play well for someone so young and impatient for results. They 
should start on another woodwind (clarinet or flute), then transfer over once
they've learned to read music and are SURE they want to play the thing. An
oboe is a LOT of money to have lying around in a closet gathering dust. Oboe
also demands a high degree os physical co-ordination and breath support, which
you won't find in younger students.

Now, if the boy _IS_ older, and still wants to play oboe, then great! Your 
best bet to find a reasonably priced used instrument is to contact your local
college music department, talk to their oboe instructor, and ask him/her to 
put out some feelers for you. They will ALSO be able to examine the instrument,
and make sure it is in good condition. This will also be a good time to line
up private lessons. Oboe is NOT an instrument you can learn on your own!

If the college teacher doesn't have the time to take on another student, then
perhaps he/she can reccommend one of their students as a teacher... most of
the kids could use the money, and would be MORE than happy to teach a beginner.

Hope this helps!

(BTW... I'm a woodwind player myself, Sax major, and an ex music teacher and
band director.)

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     Internet:   usr6184a@tso.uc.edu        |       P.O. Box 18577
        GEnie:   J.ELLIS22                  |     Fairfield, OH 45018
    All filked up and no place to sing!     |   New Dimensions In Filk!
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
From: paul@athena.mit.edu (Paul Boutin)
Subject: WANTED: old MXR or AD/A flanger, Boss CE-1 Chorus Ensemble
Reply-To: boutin@ncd.com
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Mountain View CA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:06:49 GMT

As part of my obvious campaign to go *late* 70's retro before it
becomes cool :), I'm looking for either an old MXR or AD/A flanger,
the AC-powered versions from the late 70's or early 80's, and also 
a Boss CE-1 Chorus Ensemble unit.  If you have or know of or see one 
of these, please let me know and I'll probably want it!

Paul Boutin      User Interface Software      Network Computing Devices
boutin@ncd.com                                350 North Bernardo Avenue
415 691-2115                                  Mountain View, California 94043


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					-Paul
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: jpaul@locus.com (James Hensley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Posting lyrics and Copyright violations (was: Yes lyrics)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:37:44 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California

In article <1bakgbINN8u1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.) writes:
>
>In a previous article, gt6851a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian King) says:
>
>Since you claim to be a songwriter, you should recognise the inherent value in
>the lyric, and have respect for the rights of others. After all, copyright
>law protects _your_ material as well.


Yours is no disgrace.

:-)

-- 

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Clouds filled with blood rain on the water
While Nightime's fingers clench the light shut...
From: gt6851a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian King)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: How much for Marshall
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:18:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I'd like to know some approximate prices for this equipment (used, good/exc.
condition):

Marshall 50 watt head (JCM 900 Hi Gain Dual Reverb)

&

Marshall 1960A (slanted w/Celestions) 4 X 12" cabinet

Anyone looking to sell?

bk

-- 
"in this day & age...music performed by humans?...Hum?! - Wilde Silas Tomkyn 
"and for the Catholic students... FISH!!!" - Galactic Cowboys
Brian King - Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta: gt6851a@prism.gatech.edu
From: doney@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Doney)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: WANTED: Fender Standard Tremelo (desperate..)
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:13:41 GMT
Reply-To: doney@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Doney)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

========================
bill "skeets" doney
doney@oasys.dt.navy.mil
bethesda, MD   USA
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Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:10213 rec.music.synth:16550
From: sarisky@a.chem.upenn.edu (Mark J. Sarisky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: "MIX" magazine reviews Alesis ADAT
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:52:19 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct14.183642.8952@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>MIX magazine owns Electronic Musician (they bought them a year or two
>ago) so many of the MIX reviewers now do EM reviews - perhaps the
>same review is printed in both mags (I don't get Mix so I wouldn't know).
>So their reviews should carry a similar weight.

Should, but remember the magazines have different audiences.  Much of the gear
reviewed in EM is of the home/semi-pro variety, aimed at small or home studios.
MIX tends toward the larger pro studios and high end gear.  Because of this, 
reviews tend to have different points of view.  I would read both, but I only
get MIX for free so. . .

Mark
From: ron@central.cis.upenn.edu (Ron Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Michael Hedges
Summary: concert next wednesday, philadelphia
Keywords: surprise
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:37:37 GMT
Followup-To: Michael Hedges
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct8.182130.4654@desire.wright.edu> dstuart@desire.wright.edu writes:
>
>
>	Does anyone out there know anything on recent happenings with Michael
>Hedges?  I would like to know any info on concert dates or new releases.

I haven't seen any new albums, but I _am_ going to a concert I only recently
found out about on Wednesday of next week (Oct 14), in Philadelphia.  I'll
let you know if there's a new album cut or in the works.

-ron
From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Electronic Wind Instrument INFO Wanted!
Date: 13 Oct 1992 15:25:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, rocko@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Mike Andrews) says:

>If anyone has any information about Electronic Wind Instruments or something similar, please let me know! I've been playing saxophone (alto, tenor, soprano; tenor being my main axe) for about 8 years now, and would really like to break into the electronic music field. Questions I'd like to get answered:
>	How does the fingering/action on an EWI compare to a saxophone?
>	How does the ambouchure on the EWI compare to, well, a saxophone?
>	What will I be looking at in the monetary department?
>	Any other information regarding general usage of the thing, i.e. does it work through MIDI?
>
>Thanx in advance.
>-- 
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From the perspective of the pleased user of a Yamaha WX-7.

1) Finger spacing is like an alto. Touch is very light... and fast!

2) Feel is adjustable in sensativity. Pitch bend sent according to bite
   pressure, and volume sent as well, varying with air velocity. Little air
   backpressure, though. Takes some getting used to. Adding special effects
   like growls, slap-tonguing is out of the question.

3) Moneywise... well, they're cheaper than a new professional sax, but not
   much! The WX-7 is no longer made, new version is the WX-11. All wind 
   controllers are MIDI, by definition. There are VERY few EWI (and no current
   ones that I am aware of) that are _not_ MIDI. Most have _no_ onboard
   voices, and must be connected to some kind of soundbox/synth to operate...
   and synth response to the MIDI signals generated varies greatly from
   box to box... and even patch to patch on the same box.


I've yet to find a sax sound I like on ANY synth (really tough since I'm more
into Stan Getz than John Coltraine), but I have got some good oboe, flute,
and french horn sounds on my VFXsd. You can have some fun, too, and play
piano/organ, guitar, or even drum solos! 

(I have found one patch that yields a great Earth, Wind, & Fire horn line...)

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     Internet:   usr6184a@tso.uc.edu        |       P.O. Box 18577
        GEnie:   J.ELLIS22                  |     Fairfield, OH 45018
    All filked up and no place to sing!     |   New Dimensions In Filk!
From: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: MORE mic questions!
Date: 15 Oct 1992 18:57:41 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mathnx.math.byu.edu

Thanks to all who responded to my question about mics.  It
seemed that the consensus was that for a reasonable price/
performance, the Shure SM58 was hard to beat as a vocal mic.

I have another question now:  our keyboard guy did some
research and found that we could get a good quantity price
(we need  4) on a Peavey mic (Model:  Peavey [no number attached
as I recall]).  Has anyone out there used these mics or do
you know anything about them??

Final question:  of the Shure SM58 and Shure SM57, which is
the omindirectional, and which is unidirectional?

-Bill

--
Professor William V. Smith
Phone: 1-801-378-2061 Fax: 1 801 378 2800
email: smithw@hamblin.math.byu.edu  or  uunet!hamblin.math.byu.edu!smithw
NeXTmail: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu
SMail: Math Dept. -- 314 TMCB; BYU; Provo, UT 84602 (USA)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar.bass
From: irmurray@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ian Murray)
Subject: Peavey bass equipment
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:13:51 GMT

Hey...

I'm looking for information on Peavey bass equipment: basses (the model(s)
with two humbuckers(?)) and amp combos (TKO series with or w/o Black Widow
speaker).

Any and all comments (playability, versatility, price...) are appreciated.
 
Thanks, Ian.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.marketplace
From: goldsman@cc.gatech.edu (Michael G. Goldsman)
Subject: Wanted: reverb unit (either a pedal or a rack mount)
Reply-To: goldsman@cc.gatech.edu (Michael G. Goldsman)
Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:59:28 GMT

Does anyone have a reverb pedal for sale?
(Also, I might be looking for a delay pedal)

I would like to get a good quality one... Will I have to go rack-mount 
to acheive this? Are there any nice digital pedals?

Can someone suggest a reverb/delay rack-mount? I don't need distortion
or flange or 10 billion other bells and whistles...  

-Mike
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: frankm@ampex.com (Frank Martyn)
Subject: SEQUENCER SALE************
Summary: Atari 520 & sequencers For Sale
Keywords: Atari, CUBASE, ALESIS MNT-8
Organization: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City CA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:55:15 GMT


SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **
SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **  SEQUENCER SALE  **

____________________________________________________________________________

                 Atari 520 ST System / CUBASE Ver. 2.01

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Everything I have for the Atari is included.  Some high points of the system
are as follows:

***** 1 Meg RAM
***** 3.5" Floppy Drive  
***** 30 Meg HD
***** Atari SM-124 Hi-Res B/W Monitor
***** Clock/Calendar modification
***** All the normal stuff like cables, mouse ......
***** CUBASE Ver. 2.01 High end multi-track sequencing software      
***** NEODESK  Desk top interface
***** Various pieces of software including other sequencing/MIDI  programs

********Everything works great on this system.  I have a notice from
	Steinberg offering an upgrade of CUBASE to the next revision.
        That is also included with the system. I will not piece this
	puppy out.  One price takes it all!  I will only sell this
        system to someone in the Bay area to avoid the hassle of 
	packing and shipping it.  

PRICE: $650.00 w/o Printer
       $700.00 with Panasonic printer.  Sorry, I don't remember the 
               model number.  It is Epson compatible however.  Hardly
               used.
____________________________________________________________________________

                       Alesis MNT-8 Sequencer  

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

***** 8-Track, standalone sequencer
***** Small enough to take on a gig
***** Powerful enough to do practically anything you want
***** Includes all documentation


PRICE: $125.00

********This unit is in perfect condition.  Again, I will only sell this
	unit to someone in the Bay area for the same reasons as stated
	above.                

_____________________________________________________________________________

Reply to this account for further information.  Or call me at:

(415) 367-3087 (before 3PM weekdays)

Frank Martyn, Jr.
From: wb@tornado.kodak.com (wb@tornado.kodak.com)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: A.R.T. Multiverb Alpha 2.0 FOR SALE...
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:02:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (Telstar), Rochester, N.Y. 14653


 Hello, I have a Multiverb Alpha 2.0 for sale, for $300. I will
 handle the shipping. This unit is a very nice digital multiple
 effector. It is even quieter than their SGE Mach 2 line of equipment.
 Some of the reverb rooms in this unit are stunning! It does 4 digital
 effects at once, there is 7 band digital EQ and ...

 A GUITAR TUNER!  Stunning quiet effects AND a tuner for $300!

 The unit has been used in a studio for less than 30 hours total.
 Reason for selling is that I'm upgrading all my effects to Lexicon
 so they can be controlled from one place using the Lexicon MRC-1.

 Thanks for considering my post!

 If you decide to respond to this post, please note that you must
"SEND" to wb@tornado.kodak.com rather than "REPLY" 'cause the "REPLY TO"
address is "nobody@kodak.com," irrepairably so...
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers)
Subject: Re: Marshall JMP-1 review
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:53:52 GMT


Thanks Jason for posting a review of this product!
Were you able to compare it to the Boogie Triaxis, or did
the price tag on that keep you away entirely?

I don't like to be negative about a small point in an otherwise
good posting, but I will take issue with this statement:

>  (BTW, if anyone is interested in buying the Chandler, send me email.  
>  It basically is a Marshall preamp, but it is not MIDI, and you only 
>  get one setting at a time).

Calling the Chandler Tube Driver basically a Marshall preamp is
rather generous.  A typical Marshall preamp consists of three
12AX7 tubes (including the output driver stage), whereas the
Chandler has just one 12AX7 and an op-amp chip generating its sound.

However, the Chandler does sound good (I have one too) and I recommend
it to those looking for a good distortion device.  Buy Jason's
and you'll both be happy.


-----
Robyn
rblanders@math.uwaterloo.ca
	"I'm just doing my rock'n'roll duty." -- Dubois

Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:10196 alt.guitar:8880
From: jmgst26+@pitt.edu (Joseph M Goodwin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
Subject: Info on the 40th Anniversary Gibson Les Paul
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:30:44 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jmgst26@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu

I feel in love with this guitar at the shop the other day, but didn't get 
a chance to play it.  I noticed it has the old soap bar pickups.  Is this
going to be a radically different Les Paul sound?  I heard they are single
coil, which to my ear would not make it sound at all like a Les Paul.  It
was on sale for $1300, is this a reasonable price?  It lists for $1900, they
say.

If anyone has one yet, I'd love to hear from you!

Mike
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Newsgroups: rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: One-hit wonders
Summary: Sorry.  Really?
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:25:11 GMT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

In article <Fh6-Tm_@engin.umich.edu> darrin@arrakis.engin.umich.edu (Darrin P C
ardani) writes:
>First off, my name is up there, and there's only one line I actually
>wrote.
>
Ooops!  Sorry.  I was tryin' to be real careful.

>Second off, Aha did not record "Funky Town" to my knowledge, it was
>Psuedo Echo (another OHW) who re-recorded it about 5 years ago.
>
>						Darrin Cardani
>darrin@engin.umich.edu
Really??  Really?  I gotta go to Music Plus.  Really?
Jennifer
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From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Newsgroups: rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: One-hit wonders
Summary: Well, maybe not.
Date: 11 Oct 92 02:25:45 GMT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

>> > In <Vxz-wN@engin.umich.edu> darrin@arrakis.engin.umich.edu (Darrin P  
>Cardani) writes:
>> > Musical Youth (Whatever the title of that obnoxious song was)
Pass the Duchie on the Left Hand Side??

>> > Has anyone mentioned A-Ha?
Not a OHW.
>> > ??, "Funkytown" 
A-ha re-recorded this.  Lips, Inc. were the first; they were a OHW.
Coupled with "Take On Me", A-ha was a 2HW.

>> > Juice Newton, "Queen of Hearts"
Not a OHW.  "Just Call Me Angel of the Morning".  After Top-40 radio, she did
country (C&W) -- I proudly admit I don't know anything of her work in that
genre.
Jennifer
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Yet another college age Republican, Disney and Tiny Toons fan, Rush Limbaugh
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Newsgroups: rec.music.dementia
From: darrin@arrakis.engin.umich.edu (Darrin P Cardani)
Subject: Re: One-hit wonders
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 12:26:57 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan
Originator: darrin@arrakis.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Oct10.192546.2853@nic.csu.net>, jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
> >> > In <Vxz-wN@engin.umich.edu> darrin@arrakis.engin.umich.edu (Darrin P  
> >Cardani) writes:
> >> > Musical Youth (Whatever the title of that obnoxious song was)
> Pass the Duchie on the Left Hand Side??
> 
> >> > Has anyone mentioned A-Ha?
> Not a OHW.
> >> > ??, "Funkytown" 
> A-ha re-recorded this.  Lips, Inc. were the first; they were a OHW.
> Coupled with "Take On Me", A-ha was a 2HW.
> 
> >> > Juice Newton, "Queen of Hearts"
> Not a OHW.  "Just Call Me Angel of the Morning".  After Top-40 radio, she did
> country (C&W) -- I proudly admit I don't know anything of her work in that
> genre.
> Jennifer
> ******************************************************************************
> Yet another college age Republican, Disney and Tiny Toons fan, Rush Limbaugh
> fan, Aussiephile, Bible-believing, PS-2 owning, Computer Science major!
> Whew!  I think I got 'em all.  So sue me for having wholesome family values.
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> You know you've been on the Usenet a long time when they've cancelled one
> of your newsgroups!
> ******************************************************************************
> 

First off, my name is up there, and there's only one line I actually
wrote.

Second off, Aha did not record "Funky Town" to my knowledge, it was
Psuedo Echo (another OHW) who re-recorded it about 5 years ago.

						Darrin Cardani
darrin@engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.dementia
Subject: Name that band
From: t00022@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Date: 11 Oct 92 12:39:49 -0600
Reply-To: t00022@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

Greetings!   What is the name of the band who produced the song "It's a
Wonderful Life"?  I saw the video on AL TV many a year ago (ok, maybe four
years ago).  

                                               Fledermaus