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From: mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu (Me Mann)
Subject: Re: Bad neighborhoods in Singapore
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 14:32:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.130529.3659@bmers95.bnr.ca> khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.000245.11671@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, jayas@vast.unsw.edu.au (Jayasooriah) writes:
>|> 
>|> I recall many years ago when the then DATSUN distributors were
>|> sponsoring a show on TV in which the Datsun Blue-Bird was promoted,
>|> the obvious translation "Datsun Lan-Liao" was not used but another
>|> term (I forgot) which when translated means "Datsun Blue-Quail".
>|> 
>|> So I think the "lan" means "Blue"!  Why Blue?
>|> 
>
>"Blue" in Hokkien is "lam"(2).

Obviously you don't expect Singaapore TV advertisments to
be in Hokkien do you.  "lan" is close enough  to blue in mandarin
at least for Jaya 8)

Me Han Mann
From: mmaiseh@cs.arizona.edu (Maszeri Maiseh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: MERDEKA!
Date: 31 Aug 92 06:20:03 GMT


SELAMAT HARI KEBANGSAAN FOR ALL MALAYSIANS OUT THERE...!!!!!!

merdeka..merdeka...merdeka...merdeka...merdeka..!!!

mz

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From: escmar@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Mar Siew Cheong)
Subject: Re: Indonesia wants SCUD missiles?
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:14:20 GMT

engp1186@nuscc.nus.sg (Won-Soon Lau) writes:
: In article <1992Aug27.120853.42597@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, hsiahaan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
: |> [stuffs deleted ...]
: |> owner. I (as an Indonesian) dont think we will attack any neighbour contries,
: |> at least we won't initiate it. What for ? So far this area is peaceful.
: |>I suspect the purchase of SCUDS is for technological resons, whatever they are
:                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:     What technological resons, please be more specific.  Making a better
:     SCUD?  That's more alarming news than just buying SCUD.
: 
: |> And if (a big IF that is) Indonesia wanted to attack Singapore, SCUDS is the
: |> least thing Indonesia needs (if u know what i mean... ;-) )

 Sorry, I honestly do not know what you meant.

 Cheong
From: ag@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (Old Wolf,office,extension,homephone)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: The mutant
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:54:25 GMT
Reply-To: ag@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

I have to say that I am in full agreement with db.
This Dwight fellow is obviously brain-dead.
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 2 Sep 1992 17:52:18 MST
From: Chee Ng <ASCKN@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject:    Schoolgirls in flesh trade

New Straits Times, August 13, 1992, reported the following:

Title:  Some schoolgirls involved in flesh trade, says Farid

   There are schoolgirls who have turned part-time prostitutes and
exposed themselves to the risk of contracting AIDS, Deputy Health
Minister Datuk Mohamed Farid Ariffin told Dewan Negara.
   He said there were two other categories of prostitutes -- full-time
call-girls and others engaged in the illicit activity because of
boredom.
   "It is difficult to wipe out the oldest profession in the world as long
as there is demand for their services."
   He said parents had an important role in educating their children to
prevent them from being involved in vice and dadah activities.
   "The bottom line why these people take dadah or are involved in vice
is because they lack love, care and knowledge," he said in reply to a
parliamentary question by Senator Johan B.O.T. Ghani.
   Johan Ghani asked whether the ministry planned to counter the threat
posed by prostitutes because they could spread AIDS.
   Farid said the ministry had no plans to register prostitutes but it
would advise them to refrain from activities that could expose them to
the risks of contracting the AIDS virus.
   He said the ministry did not force anyone to undergo medical
examination but encouraged suspected carriers to seek medical assistance
voluntarily.
   He said that as long as men patronised prostitutes, this vice could
not be eradicated.
   The Ministry had so far detected 60 prostitutes who are infected with
the AIDS virus, he added.
   Replying to another question by Senator Abdul Majid Abdullah, Farid
said the Islamic authorities would issue a fatwa on the use of condom
by Muslims soon.
   He said that generally, it was accepted that condom could be used to
prevent the spread of diseases.
   Replying to a supplementary question by Senator Law Jack Yoon, he said
condoms had 99 percent reliability rate in preventing the spread of
veneral diseases, including AIDS, if used properly.

^^^^^^^^^^^^  End of reproduction from the NST, Malaysia.  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: rtsbangi@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Soccer #28: Semi-Pro Leave Div I: S'pore falls to Second Division
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:43:53 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <cechhKa00WBLM9SHVe@andrew.cmu.edu>, zi22+@andrew.cmu.edu (Zulkafli M. Idris) writes:
> SELANGOR!!!! what is wrong with you



===> yeaah.......there are somethin' wrong i think.

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From: yip@wsl.dec.com (Michael Yip)
Subject: Re: Cheap airfares to Asia
Reply-To: yip@wsl.dec.com (Michael Yip)
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:09:18 GMT

In article <RREED.92Aug26172234@mtwire.es.com>, rreed@mtwire.es.com (Rob
Reed) writes:

	[stuff deleted]
> 
> By the way, isn't Korean Airlines the same company that had their 747
> blown up by the Russians?  I asked them that question in Anchorage
> (since our flight path was quite near the place it was blown up) and
> they said "No!  That was Korean Air.  This is Korean Airlines" or
> something like that.
> 

The agents at Anchorage did not lie to you.  They just didn't 
tell you the whole truth.  You must be flying "Korean Air," which
is the new name for "Korean Airlines."

Korean Airlines was the one that got their 747 blown up by the 
Soviets.   In fact, they had another 707 back in the late '70s
also fired upon by the Soviets in and around the North Pole, and 
managed to crash land on some ice-covered no-man-land.  A small
number of people were killed with many injured.

Airlines observers have speculated that one of the major reasons
why Korean Airlines was re-named to Korean Air had to do with the
number of planes they got blown out from the skies.  A marketing
scheme which would allow the agent at Anchorage said what he said
as pointed out the previous poster.

======================================================================
Michael E. Yip
Digital Equipment Corporation	Internet: yip@wsl.dec.com
Western Software Laboratory	UUCP: ...decwrl!wsl.enet.dec.com!yip
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From: escmar@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Mar Siew Cheong)
Subject: Re: Do not overgeneralize
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:00:13 GMT

ges@boris.net.com (G.E. Song) writes:
: In article <24AUG199209492962@juliet.caltech.edu> chong@juliet.caltech.edu (Chong, Francis F. S.) writes:
: >From: chong@juliet.caltech.edu (Chong, Francis F. S.)
: >Subject: Do not overgeneralize
: >Keywords:  
: >Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 17:49:00 GMT
: 
: >        By the way, the term "chinaman" is loaded with negative connotations.
: >Chinese is a much less offensive term.

 Yes. I for one would definitely like to be referred to as a Chinese.
 Chinaman? Someone made of "china"? Would you call someone from 
 Turkey, Turkeyman? 

 Siew Cheong
From: Computing@harvard.edu (Computing)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: US vs British university degree
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:47:47 GMT
Organization: Harvard University
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>echong@porpoise.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Chong) writes:
>:
>: But it is virtually impossible to pass a qualifying exam at a given
>: school if you don't take courses from that school. At Princeton, where

>I took/passed the written qualifier for computing at UPenn.
>some years ago. I don't think it needed a great deal more
>than  stuff I was taught as an undergrad in UK.
>The qualifier had a disastrous passing rate of <30%.
>But then most of those who took it didn't have the benefit
>of a British undergrad computing education.

>                               Limsoon Wong.

Have you ever tried taking the exam at MIT yet?
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From: J066610@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Travel advice needed on Singapore & Malaysia
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 15:56:54 GMT


  Hello Netters,

  I plan to be travelling in Singapore and Malaysia later this year.
  This will be the first time I have visited these countries and I
  was wondering whether anyone out there has any travel advice or
  suggestions.  In particular, I would appreciate any recommendations
  for budget-type accommodations and local transportation tips.  Also,
  is this time of the year (December) considered the rainy season there
  and if so, does this greatly interfere with travel?

  Thanks alot!

 -- Dan

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From: tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Tarun Kripalani)
Subject: Re: Cheap airfares to Asia
Organization: Dept. Of Psychology,  Queen's University,  Kingston
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:53:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.221354.7488@PA.dec.com>, yip@wsl.dec.com (Michael Yip) writes:
|> In article <Btn99x.7Kz@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>,
|> tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Tarun Kripalani) writes:
|> > One way to find out where to get the cheapest fares is to 
|> > call the airline and ask them for a list of consolidators
|> > they use. The consolidators usually have some of the 
|> > cheapest fares around.
|> > -- 
|> > 
|> > Tarun Kripalani (of Wounded Knee and now Wounded Shoulder)
|> > e-mail:   tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca
|> > Dept. of Psychology, Queen's University,
|> > Kingston, Ontario.
|> 
|> Problems with this approach is that an average you and me could
|> not get consolidator's tickets.  You need an IATA or ARC number
|> to purchase tickets from consolidators and i.e., travel agencies.
|> 
|> Travel agencies make their profits by adding some "overhead" to
|> these prices, but they are still way below the listed price or
|> whatever the airlines are trying to sell to you.
|> 
|> ======================================================================
|> Michael E. Yip
|> Digital Equipment Corporation	Internet: yip@wsl.dec.com
|> Western Software Laboratory	UUCP: ...decwrl!wsl.enet.dec.com!yip
|> ======================================================================

What I meant was that you could get the names of the travel
agencies who are the consolidators for a specific airline. However,
these tickets may be cheaper but are very restrictive. I have been
told that such travel agencies don't make much of a profit on 
such fares but they have the volume. Anyway, if anyone needs
more info checkout the FAQ on rec.travel.air. There is info/tips on
how to obtain low-cost fares.

-- 

Tarun Kripalani (of Bum Knee)
e-mail:   tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca
Dept. of Psychology, Queen's University,
Kingston, Ontario.
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From: sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO)
Subject: Re: SIMMS
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:23:22 GMT

In <1992Aug25.131559.9745@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:

>spleong@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Leong Siew-Peng) writes:
>: Hi!  I'm not sure if I'm in the right section, many apologies if I'm
>: invading!!!  What I would like to know is the price of 1Meg of Simms
>: either in Malaysia or Singapore.
>: 
>In Singpaore about S $50
>--
 Is this price for 70 ns SIMM?
-- 
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>Wey Jing Ho    Tel: 61-3-573-2567   E-mail : sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au<
>Physics Dept., Monash University ( Caulfield Campus ), Melbourne, AUSTRALIA<
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From: engp1186@nuscc.nus.sg (Won-Soon Lau)
Subject: Re: Indonesia wants SCUD missiles?
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:09:05 GMT

Ho Hiang Kwee (mhkho@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg) wrote:
: 
: Challenging our Indonesian friends to tell us how they can threaten us?

    You think so?  Maybe a little bit of it.  But in essence is to tell
    them stop acting like the big brother.
: 
: I think Won Soon is being too touchy. As a Singaporean, I am proud 
: that we will probably prove to be no pushovers if a regional conflict 
: should arise.

    I'm sure we all do.
: 
: Yet, my feeling is that the best defence posture/policy we can adopt
: is to be friendly, and less easily provoked (ie. have a thick skin).
: Singapore can be justifiably accused of over-spending on our arms forces
: to a much greater extent than our neighbours. I don't think we
: should be telling (or advising) them what they can buy or cannot buy.

    All the while we have been friendly to them.  But do recalled what
    happened a couple of months ago when Indoneasia had an exercise
    with Malaysia in Johor.

    How can we tell them what to buy and what cannot.  It is the mutual
    understandings between the nations that guide the actions.  If 
    everybody else don't has it, then don't buy it.  If you do, make it
    clear the purpose for it.
: 
: The line between an offensive or defensive weapon is hardly clear-cut.
: A pre-emptive strike on an aggressor (with Scuds or whatever) can
: be justified as a "defensive" military action . And, as all Singaporeans
: who have undergone national service should know, - the best defence
: is a strong offence. 
: 
    Do you think that with defensive weapons (e.g. SAM) you can carry out
    a pre-emptive strike on the aggressor's offensive weapons (e.g. SCUD,
    bomber)?  I think it is pretty clear that what is offensive weapons -
    those that can use to reach _major_ targets and with devastating power
    to destroy.  To quote you an example, why is it that US refused to
    sell the F-16 fighters to Taiwan.  Because, it can reach China and
    still be able to deliver some Mk82.  Whereas, the F-5 can reach there
    to jettison its drop-tank.

Won Soon
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From: v999s3bz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu ((__))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: ***** London Business School ***** Pick this up
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:19:00 GMT
Organization: (__)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi, trying to find address for LBS in Internet and Bitnet
without successs.  Could someone tell me the full name
of the school and whether they are on internet or any
net for that matter.

good day friends
From: selee@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Lee Say Eng)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:50:15 GMT
Subject: Re: Singlish is spreading
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean


Sorry.  I mistakenly associated your name with Kylie Minogue's.

Just came back from S'pore 2 days ago; ain't a bad place at all.

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From: waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi)
Subject: Re: Anyone studying in Essex,UK?????
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:53:18 GMT

In article <14185@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au> s923257@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Chew Ming Ean) writes:
>Could you please tell me the internet address of the
>
>Uni. Of East london.

Is there a Univ. Of East London ? I studied at U of London and never heard
of U of East London. Perhaps it's a recent addition. Can someone enlighten
me ?
From the subject topic, perhaps you mean U of Essex ?


waseem

>
>I've got a freind studying land information.
>
>Please e-mail me the address.
>
>thanks
>
>ming
>


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From: u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia)
Subject: Re: [Discussion]: Absorbing Immigrants into S'pore
Organization: University of Tasmania (Australia)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:15:49 GMT

In article <65163@cup.portal.com>, hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam) writes:

(stuff deleted)
 
> I take it this covers the large number of Malaysians settled in
> Singapore. (I dont know what % of the immigrant population they
> make up, can someone fill me in?). 
> 
> Do your questions and request for discussion regarding integration
> and melting pot apply to these people also?
> 
> Hassan

Nearly ALL Singaporeans were at one time(and not too long ago) Malaysians.

Edmund
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From: schulenb@Aero.org (David Schulenburg)
Subject: Re: Korean Airlines (was: Cheap airfares to Asia)
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:57:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.152807.5690@bnr.ca>, therese@crchh588.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Therese McCarthy) writes:
|> 
|> Has anyone ever flew Korean Airlines?  I agree that their prices are much
|> cheaper than other airlines, but my travel agent discouraged me from using
|> them because she said they were like 'cattle cars'.  I don't want to spend
|> 12+ hours flying uncomfortably....if anyone can confirm or deny this I would
|> appreciate it!
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> Therese McCarthy (therese@bnr.ca)

two years ago, i was with a tour to east asia (korea, hong kong, & japan);
we flew on korean airlines.  on all but my final flight home (i stayed on in
japan after the tour left), the tour operator handled checkin and i had no
real complaints.  the flights were always full so therefore crowded but i
don't fault the airline for that.  on my return flight, when i got to narita
in tokyo, there was a huge crowd of people waiting to checkin.  as i recall,
there were 4 or 5 korean airlines flights scheduled to leave within about
15 minutes of each other, hence the crowd.  anyway, by the time i got up to
the checkin window (over an hour wait!), there apparently weren't (m)any
seats left, at least for non-smoking.  after about 10-15 minutes at the
window, i finally got a boarding card for my flight.  this was about 5 minutes
before scheduled departure.  i got through security to the loading gate and
got on the plane.  much to my surprise, my seat was in business class for a
coach class ticket.  they had moved all of the regular business class people
to first class and opened up business class to coach class "overflow."  i had
a seat in business class for the tokyo-LAX flight (nice) but only :-( coach
class service.  still, i'm not sure it was worth all of the anxiety at checkin.
my current feeling is that i'll not fly korean airlines again.

david
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From: mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu (Me Mann)
Subject: Re: US vs British university degree
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 01:30:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.183935.27623@nuscc.nus.sg> limsoon@iss.nus.sg (Limsoon Wong) writes:
>echong@porpoise.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Chong) writes:
>: 
>: In the UK, you can get away with receiving a PhD without ever having to
>: take a single course beyond the undergraduate level (in some places at
>: least), whereas in the US every MS/PhD student takes several graduate
>: courses before getting their degrees (many places have strict course
>: requirements).
>: 
>
>incorrect. in usa univs, you are required to have a certain 
>number of credits before getting the phd degree. but you
>do not need to attend any courses to earn those credits.
>it is sufficient to take research credits where you basically
>do your own work/research.

Nope. I don't think it is correct to say that you don't
need course credit to get a PhD in the US. There is a stipulation 
on the number of credits one needs to accumulate
beyond the MS or BS level. Of these there is also
a stipulation that  a certain minimum must be course
and   a certain minimum must be research/project credits.
However I should say the courses are sort of a prerequisite
to getting a PhD.  In most of the places that I know of
original work is require.

>: Virtually all PhD programs in the US require students to pass a
>: "qualifying exam". This is a comprehensive exam on the student's area
>: of specialization, typically at an advanced level. Preparation for
>: this exam is usually much more intensive than any undergraduate exam.
>
>i really don't think a british univ needs this thing (at least
>for computing science). i think someone with a 2nd upper honours 
>in computing from uk can quite comfortably pass a typical qualifier. 
>
I am not sure all of them can pass the qualifier though.
You can go on to say that all those who can get a
good A level result need not take their exams either. 

However whether the courses or qualifying exams serves
a good purpose is another questions.  


>                         -Limsoon Wong.



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