HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Khuzestan
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:14:30 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

benf@next.com (Ben Fathi) writes:

>afternoon, but you didn't care because all your friends and cousins
>were out there with you, and how it felt like the world was beautiful
>place? Do you remember the Karoun in Ahwaz? Do you remember the shady
>and beautiful side streets in Dezful? Do you remember spending all
>afternoon going from one movie theater to another, drinking Ab-havij?
						    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There are a couple of places in Naaderi st. that sell
AAB HAVEEJ VA BASTANI

I think this is the invention of SHIRAAZI's that has now penetrated
into Khuzestaan because I did not remember this before.

>God, I gotta stop... it's too much.

Neayh,  it's never too much.
you know,

IT IS THE ONLY PURPOSE OF LIFE HERE!

>	ben

Ala

>PS: Is it time for soc.culture.iranian.kuzestani yet? :-)

p.s. I object to any independence movement.  We should stay with Iran :-)
From: moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:33:28 GMT
Subject: ali baba the tough guy
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian

In Article 13554 in soc.culture.iranian ali@utrcv1 (ALI BABA) gives 
his pitiful self the permission to write:

>Dear Behzad;
>Baba ghYsar khane shoma kotah beyaied
>Since you know the word and like Mahin alot, do mahin a favor and  take the
>job, even though the name is awful but the money is wonderful.
>By the way, after two hours of meeting with Amoo and Sogoly last night at
>ghahvah khaneh, Amoo agreed to let Mahin  who left Iran at a young age
>and never got to have a good taste of Iranian men and their (gooshty logic)
>to come and entertain at the ghahveh khaneh on Saturday and Sunday nights,
>unfortunately not on  Friday night because according to Sogholi's belief
>and the old legend Iranian men's (ghooshti logic) gets more aggresive and
>dangerous on (shabeh joomeh) and that's not going to be a pleasant for
>Mahin's first Iranian close encounter.
>After another meeting with Agha javad, he agreed to let us use his sign.
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
BS asshole.  Don't get me involved in your brainless crap.  Agha Javad 
doesn't talk to scumbags like you.  Which trash can did you crawl
out of anyway?  Do you represent the "faithful" I presume?  Do you take pleasure
in seeing a non-believer get gang raped?  The revolutionary guards have a job
for assholes like you.  You're TRASH mister, and you're not even worth my spit!

>we will be hanging a red computerized sign on (drabe shomaly ghahvah
>khoneh)
>
>saying "Khanoom rashti reseed" oops! sorry guys, "Brenje rashti reseed"
>So join us this saturday and sunday night at Amoo's Ghahvah Khaneheh where
>Mahin will try to tame Mashe ghafoor's 12" ghooshti logic using Einstein's
>law. We are all sure she will have a happy life and won't feel like (torshi
>baademjoon) after her first Iranian close encounter.

>P.S.
>Due to aid disease, bring your own (baadkoonek) for protection and
>Use the back-door as an emergency door in case of police raids or
>Sogholi's arrival.
>
>	    ************************************************
>	    * ALI BABA, not a legend, but the shining      *
>	    *       star of the 1996 olmpic                *
>	    * **********************************************

Who's your role model, asshole?? Mike Tyson??

If Salman Rushdie's punishment is death in Islam, what does Islam prescribe
for Ali Baba's highly intellectual post?  I guess if it's a non-believer
then any crap can fly, huh. Is this the "effat" and morality that your Islam
aims to achieve by covering women?  I marvel at its success. 

Now we know the real source of your logic.  It's much smaller than you think,
and that's why your logic is so weak.  Put this newsgroup to good use, and 
get your brain out of your pants!!

Agha Javad
(closed today out of disgust)
From: moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:21:27 GMT
Subject: Re: It's too much
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Public Celebration of Ignorance
Originator: sehari@vincent2.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:05:49 GMT

In <1992Oct10.102407.13212@netcom.com> bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:

>In article <1992Oct8.181240.11239@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com> ali@utrcv1 
>(ALI BABA) writes:

>>Dear Behzad;

>>By the way, after two hours of meeting with Amoo and Sogoly last night at
>>ghahvah khaneh, Amoo agreed to let Mahin  who left Iran at a young age
>>and never got to have a good taste of Iranian men and their (gooshty logic)
>>to come and entertain at the ghahveh khaneh on Saturday and Sunday nights,
>>unfortunately not on  Friday night because according to Sogholi's belief
>>and the old legend Iranian men's (ghooshti logic) gets more aggresive and
>>dangerous on (shabeh joomeh) and that's not going to be a pleasant for
>>Mahin's first Iranian close encounter.
>>After another meeting with Agha javad, he agreed to let us use his sign.
>>we will be hanging a red computerized sign on (drabe shomaly ghahvah
>>khoneh)
>>saying "Khanoom rashti reseed" oops! sorry guys, "Brenje rashti reseed"
>>So join us this saturday and sunday night at Amoo's Ghahvah Khaneheh where
>>Mahin will try to tame Mashe ghafoor's 12" ghooshti logic using Einstein's
>>law. We are all sure she will have a happy life and won't feel like (torshi
>>baademjoon) after her first Iranian close encounter.
>>P.S.
>>Due to aid disease, bring your own (baadkoonek) for protection and
>>Use the back-door as an emergency door in case of police raids or
>>Sogholi's arrival.

>Ali Baba:

>This is the second time you have demonstrated the 'reptilian' [(c) Carl
>Sagan - Cosmos, 80] mentality that scientists have proposed we humans once
>possessed in pre-knowledge era.  You - and your alikes - are the living
>proof of this theory at sci.

>Shame on your education and the school of thought that raised you to 
>conceive the above-included article.  If some day I become somebody, the
>first thing I will do is to close down all those schools and thought
>institutions that produce defective lobatedly-excised-cerebral-nerve-tracts
>humans who unconsciously expose their opinions in expressions such as the
>one cited above.

That's why every Iranian who cares about his or her freedom should do
his or her best to make sure you never get to power.  Closing down schools
just because you do not agree with their idealogy?!  Who the hell you think
you are to tell people what to think, what to teach their children, and
how to express their opinion?

Even though, I should criticize ALI BABA for his commands about rashtii's.
I have relative from all corners of Iran, including Rasht, Azarbijan
, east, west, north, south, and being from Tehran, I make it my own business
to bring to tears anyone who make fun of any of my people, from now
on.  I am not advocating censorship here, rather I utilize my freedom of
speech for this purpose.-:)

                       With highest regards,
                            Babak   Sehari.




--
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: shAhrokh, tabibe mahin!
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:29:17 GMT
Organization: UB

In article smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
>In article seyyed@wuee1.wustl.edu (Seyyed Mahdavian) writes:
>
>>He received the Ph.D. degree in adabiyyAt from Tehran U. when
>>he was only 15! 
>
>yaaaaaaaawn.  listen, we already *know* i aint no adabiyaate farsi
>scholar.  ive admitted to it several times right here on the net. 

Shahrokh JaAn,

	In case you have missed it, Seyyed State University college of
Seyyeddan has a great program for PhD in almost any major. I got my PhD
from the very same university. If interested mail to :

	Adminstration and Registration
	Seyyed@State.UofSeyyed.edu


Ramin
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: General Instrument To Help Launch Middle East TV Services
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:29:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: class1.sehari.719040588
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu

---
10/13 (DJ) General Instrument To Help Launch Middle East TV Services

    CHICAGO -DJ- General Instrument Corp. (GIC) has signed an agreement
with Satellite Receiving Systems Ltd. to launch new Middle East
subscription services on Arabsat and Eutelsat using its DigiCipher
digital compression pay television delivery system.
    Under terms of the agreement, General Instrument's VideoCipher and
Jerrold divisions will supply technology, hardware and software to
enable Middle East Broadcasting Centre, a London program supplier, to
launch its subscription service in 1993.
    ''This agreement will bring to the Middle East its first
entertainment television use of digital video compression,'' said James
Faust, vice president, international sales for General Instrument.
    The company's DigiCipher digital compression system converts analog
television signals to a digital format, compresses them using signal
precessing techniques and transmits those signals digitally so that up
to 10 channels can be transmitted in the same bandwidth currently used
by just one analog channel.
    12:15 PM
                                 -END-
------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:27:30 GMT
Subject: Re: It's too much
Organization: Hewlett Packard Labs, Palo Alto CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian

Our buddy bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:

>In article <28600030@hplred.HP.COM> moussavi@hplred.HP.COM (Farshid Moussavi)
>writes:
>
>>
>>Seyyed, I think you are exhibiting the behavior that you do because you
>>really need a husband.  Let's face it, you need one good act of LavAT
>>to lighten up your life.  After all, what else could be the cause of your
>frustration besides not getting f***ed enough?
>
>So far you are heavily involved to mimic the poster's earlier post in an
>attempt to demonstrate to HIM that his post was not nice.
>
>>Now, I'm sure there are some
>>nice homosexuals in our community who are reading this net, and would love to
>>satisfy your each and every desire!
>
>'kAkA, kharAb kardi.'  I resent the above characterization.  Once you try
>to emulate a person's post, you will try to your best ability to write like
>that person and in the process you might insult innocent people.  Those nice
>homosexuals in _our_ community (ie, sci) were not and are not part of the
>recent discussion between you and Seyyed.  Again, I would like to reiterate
>that I perfectly understand that you are not against the Iranian homosexuals

You know, I thought again about what Haj Agha Hooshyar said, and I now think he
is perfectly right, since it really can be taken the wrong way.  So once again,
my sincere apologies, and if I were to write that bit again, I would 
probably write:

Who knows?  There might be some eligible man out there who is romantically
interested in you!

Maybe this gets the point across better without potentially offending anyone
(except men in general, but you know what I mean!)

Thank you once again for bringing up this point.

>
>Regards,
>Hooshyar F. Naraghi
>bavafa@netcom.com
>(415) 322-8056
>
>

may your cows give lots of milk,

Agha Javad
(MAst-e-kasehee ham reseed!)
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From: towfiq@justice.UUCP (Mark Towfiq)
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:17:53
Organization: Towfiq System
In-reply-to: S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz's message of Thu, 8 Oct 92 20:57:09 GMT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Please leave BAHA'IS out of this! (Re: Israel and Khomeini regimes)
X-Mailer: GNU Emacs 18.58 with RMAIL and Supercite 2.2
Distribution: world

>>>>> On Thu, 8 Oct 92 20:57:09 GMT, S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas) said:

sa> Dear Kamran

sa> I am afraid I do not agree with you. The reason is
sa> that I have seen and observed from my own eyes in the regime of
sa> Shah back in 1976-79, when the Iranian students were taking their
sa> courses in Pkaistanis universities. I observed that "one" of those
sa> students is very very well off than all others. It can happen to
sa> anyone ? But the indepth observation revealed that he is getting
sa> about 2.5 times more scholarship money than the other Iranians are
sa> getting. The reason was that "the special student" was not only a
sa> student but he was also an informer to "someone" about the
sa> activities of other Iranian students in the campus.

  Wow, what a bad informer to tell everyone what he was doing.  Or did
you actually have a source for this information which could share with
us?

  Could it be that the jealousy of the Muslim students not receiving
as much scholarship as the Baha'i had to make up a reason for his
amount, because they did not want to accept that a "sag-e Baha'i"
deserved such an award based only on merit?  This sounds like a
similar prejudice directed at foreigners and minorities in America.

sa> Can you believe that all Iranians will either low their radio
sa> volume or turn it off once they will see that "the special
sa> student" is approaching towards their room. Because it was not
sa> allowed for Iranians to listen BBC News Service, as in those days
sa> as that was the only source for Iranian to know what is happening
sa> within Iran.  This special student was a "Bhahai" [...]

  I would be interested in knowing how you determined this.

Mark
--
Mark Towfiq				towfiq%justice@eingedi.newton.ma.us

"The earth is but one country, and mankind its citizens" -- Baha'u'llah

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: keivan@brahms.udel.edu (Keivan Esfarjani)
Subject: Re: Konar, Khuzistan and a quiz
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:13:04 GMT

What the fuck is a konAr tree?
Could any kind soul DEFINE it before talking about it?
This is for a dehAti-e khouzestAn narafteh who has never
seen such things.
Thanx in advance and Regards,
K1
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Physics-1A Question
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:44:11 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <31443@sophia.inria.fr> navab@sophia.inria.fr writes:
>
>I am sorry Seyyed, but it seems that you didn't understand the "conditional"
>probability. The choice of the door to be opened after your first choice is 
>also conditioned by your first choice!!
>Behzad answer is correct. 
>Keeping always your first choice means betting on the correctness of your 
>first choice of probability 1/3.
>Changing always your choice means betting on your wrong first choice of 
>probability 2/3. 
>And  therefore Behzad is correct. 
>
...

>
>Result: over six situation 3 are winning and 3 are not; but
>2/3 of situations are winners if you always change your choice and
>1/3 of situations are winners if you always keep your first choice.
>
>Did you understand Seyed ?

navab khaan, he understands perfectly.  the question you should pose
is not:

Did you understand Seyed ?

but rather:

Will you admit to having a made a simple mistake Seyed?

and the answer, as we all know, is shaanse chaagh.

come on emaam seyed, confess... it'll make you feel much better!  tell
the truth and you shall go to (your version of) behesht, where
beautiful, submissive women graze on the banks flowing rivers, ready to
be seeghe'd.  but remember, when you get there, get out your Visa card,
cuz they dont take American Express.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Re: Khuzestan, Pol-e dokhtar (AzarbayejAn)
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:28:45 GMT


>.......as we usually took to get to TEHRAAN  we took the road
>to KERMAANSHAH.  This road brached off the main road close to POLE DOKHTAR.
>Of course that is also the road to AZARBAIJAAN (MEEYAANEH VA TABRIZ).
>We had a very nice trip to KERMANSHAH and AZARBAIJAAN that year and
>I was only 13 at the time and have a lot of nice memories of that trip.
>Now, POLE DOKHTAR is in the middle of mountains and it is partly destroyed
>(although I do not know the cause).  Could this be the same POL?

>Ala

The original "Pol-Dokhtar" is in the state of Lorestan.  As you guys
mentioned (Ala and Hoshyar), I remeber it was connecting Lorestan to
Khuzestan back in Sassanid era.  It was right in the middle of Zagros
mountain range and it was near the road going to Khuzestan traveling
from Khoram-Abad to Ahvaz.  The bridge was right in the middle of a very
narrow valley and it was very beatiful covered with short trees (I think
they were "Pesteh Kohi").

Anyway, as far as the history goes, it was build during the Sassanid
dynasty (who built it, I don't know, or the reason and why
"Pol-Dokhtar").  Perhaps, someone can answer these questions please.

Regards


Zamie

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 10 Oct 1992 17:58:46 CDT
From: <U60001@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Int. e-mail address for Arizona S.U. EE needed

I needed to know the e-mail address of ee department
at the Arizona State University at Tempe.
I will greatly appreciate it. -Farhad.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: payman@hardy.u.washington.edu (Payman Arabshahi)
Subject: Re: What is MKO position on the Islands?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:44:24 GMT

In article <saied.718916706@cwis> saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:

<Regarding the possibility of exchange of land for peace>

>If the final outcome is to *save lives* and to live in *peace*
>and if an international body such as the Int'l Court or the
>U.N. are involved, then the situation is different and I agree
>with Hossein.

In October 1980, shortly after the Iraqi invasion, Iraq offered
a peace proposal.  Needless to say, many lives could have been
saved, and we could all be living in peace now if we had accepted
that proposal.  The only problem is that there would no longer
be an Iran to live in or to call "home" had we not resisted the
assault the way we did. Your argument thus could lead to the 
following scenario whereby our neighbors would gradually take
over small pieces of Iranian territory, and we would accept,
because we wish to "save lives" and "live in peace".  But live
in peace *where*?  Are you suggesting that from now on we leave
the issue of territorial integrity of Iran up to the world
court or the UN? I am sure you remember how sympathetic the UN
was to the case of Iran during the time Iraqi forces were
clearly in control of large tracts of Iranian land.

-Payman
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: Shahreh Farang
Keywords: shahr shahreh farangeh, az hameh rangeh
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:04:31 GMT

In article marand@eagle.wpd.sgi.com (Najmeh Marand) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct7.174345.9997@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
|> farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
|> > 
|> > And All this times, I thought it was naghmeh with turkish accent!!
|> > 
|> > :-)
|> 
|> Sorry, Agha FarhAd!  As a proud Turk (Azari) I feel obligated to 
|> correct you :-)
|> 
|> It seems you never had a Turkish-speaking Physics teacher in high school

I did I did,  my entire family comes from Tabriz too!!! 

I also had a Biology Teacher BUT we never figure out if he was
Rashti or Tabrizi!  He always pronounce  Goshfand as  Goseefand .  :)


|> or you would know that the way a Turk would pronounce "gh" in Farsi
|> is "g"  not "j" as you are saying.  e.g.  barg instead of bargh (electricity)
|> so Naghmeh would be Nagmeh :-)  Now try to pronounce "j" the way turks would!
|> To do that, try saying "j" thru your teeth!

You are right  it has been a long time for me ,  I must have
forgotten the sweet turkish accent!


|> 
|> Enough Turkish lesson for now.
|> 
|> Najmeh  (or Najmah  with j thru the teeth - in Turkish)
|>               ~ ~                    ^

-- 
         +----------------------------------------------------+
        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
      / Computer Science Department                        /
     +----------------------------------------------------+
From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: racial harmony, not a dream...
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:37:18 GMT

siong@fraser.sfu.ca (Siong Heng Chan) writes:
>Stadium Negara hugging their neighbours, regardless of race, hugging
>strangers, congratulating each other etc...  That one brief moment,
>everyone was one race, MALAYSIANS.  I'm not really good at describing
>a situation, but I think you get the idea...  The real situation
>is a hundred times better than how I can describe here...


What can I say ? except that you are TOO naive, ignrant & simple
minded !! Obviously you have not stepped out of your shell yet. This
is fact and not meant to be an insult. 


>You Malay or Bumi readers might be surprised at how loyal the young 
>Chinese generation is to Malaysia!  During the match against China in
>the Semis, groups of Chinese were waving banners written in Chinese
>saying "The China Great Wall will Crack...The cup is OURS, Malaysians'."'."
>So there....In fact I must say myself, I was cheering myself corse (Sp?)))
>for the Malaysian team.  My whole family was...
 
 Of course, who dosen't ?? But does that mean anything ?? That is your
 side of the story. 


>So, there you have it, who says that racial harmony in Malaysia is a 
>dream????

It is a nightmare.


>:)   Have a nice day...


You sure have. Secure & safe under the shell !
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: yongwee@leland.Stanford.EDU (Yong Wee Dennis Lee)
Subject: Re: Article by Sumiko Tan of The Straits Times
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: soc.culture.asean
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 23:09:51 GMT

In article <Bw4Jty.K8G@news.cso.uiuc.edu> sbog6936@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bin Ong) writes:
>A frog living in a well couldn't beat the Singaporeans' view 
>of the world... and their opinion of their own society.
>

I think Singaporeans, more than any other people in the world, has quite a
substantial world view.  Compared with countries like the US where literacy
rates are high, Singaporeans tend to have a far better knowledge and 
perspective of the world.  The local newspapers devote many pages to world
news, and TV news cover more European news than say, the US itself.  Being
a small country has forced S'pore to be more outward looking.

It is unfair to say that S'poreans have a biased view of the world.  Being in
a country which is neither Eastern nor Western, Developed nor Underdeveloped
has given S'poreans a unique perspective of the world, a great chance to 
compare and contrast ideas and policies.

I would not say S'poreans' pride in their society is born of "blindness".  I
think S'poreans are sufficiently cosmopolitan and international in their 
outlook.


Dennis Lee
Stanford University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean