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From: rhcohen@netcom.com (Robert Cohen)
Subject: Re: Help: Word 5 on an SI
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 07:30:47 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Tim.Marples@anu.edu.au (Tim Marples) writes:
: I am setting up a new IIsi (17MB/80MB + coprocessor) and am having a
: hassle with Word v5.   When I start the program it loads OK, opens a new
: window and then unloads back to Finder and a window opens which says 'The
: application "unknown" has unexpectedly quit, because an error of type 4
: occurred.'.  If I open an existing document the program runs fine.  If I
: select "New" from the file menu then the program quits.   I have a

Tim,
This may be obvious, but have you increased the current memory size in
the getinfo box for word5?

Good luck!

Robert
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From: jonr@ausom.oz.au (Jonathon Rumbold)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Disk Space Goes West
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:20:27 GMT
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

I've got a small problem. Occasionally (once or twice a week) the free space on my
drive is inexplicably reduced from about 5 down to 1 meg. It happens rarely enough
that I have not been able to associate it with anything in particular.

I am running System 7.0.1 with Systerm 7 Tuner 1.0 on an SE/30 with 8 meg of RAM.

I have not been able to find any invisible files being created, my software setup has
not changed (I don't think !), I am using the same applications, and Disinfectant 2.9
tells me there are no viruses.

"Disk First Aid" restores the free space, but of course gives me no indication of the
problem.

I you have a clue what might be going on, I would love to hear from you.

Regards Jonathan Rumbold. (jonr)
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From: Peter.Wood@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Wood)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Netcomm Fax Modem 24 ?
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 08:52:16 +1000

i am  using a Netcomm Faxmodem 24 right now on a 386 based PC. We also use the
modem on our r Macintosh machines. The input port is a 25 pin  "D" type
connector, which is a standard IBM Comms port input. All you need to do is
specify that you need a Mac cable   and you should be ok. We are having some
trouble with our modem at the moment so be sure to test yours well before
purchase.
regards 
Peter
                
                











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From: golight@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: ZiffNet/Mac
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:08:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:SMITH.92Aug12233225@wilson.anu.e:1385724337:peg:993500097:000:223
Nf-From: peg.UUCP!golight    Aug 16 15:08:00 1992


ZiffNet is a forum on Compuserve that is sponsored by Ziff Publications....
ie MacUser Mag....etc....

You would need a Compuserve acct to access this forum....if you would like 
more info...contact me as i am on that net.
Newsgroups: aus.mac,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: chris@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Chris Younger)
Subject: Software IP gateway between LocalTalk and EtherTalk?
Organization: Monash University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:37:51 GMT

I am trying to locate some software that will run on a Mac attached to both a
LocalTalk network and ethernet network that will act as a gateway.  I am
aware of both Apple's and Farallon's products but understand that these only
gateway AppleTalk traffic.  I am after something that will gateway TCP/IP
traffic.  There are only 4 Macs on the LocalTalk segment so we can't justify
purchasing a hardware gateway solution.  Specifically we want the Macs on
LocalTalk to be able to create telnet sessions to hosts on ethernet.

One department here is using PCroute with an ethernet and LocalTalk card in
a PC to do the job.  Unfortunately the LocalTalk card is very old and
unidentifiable.  We tried using a Dayna LocalTalk card but the PCroute
software didn't recognize it.

Thanks for your suggestions,

Chris

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Computer Centre, Monash University   Phone:    +61 3 565 4794
Clayton, Victoria  3168, Australia   Fax:      +61 3 565 4746
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From: mpradhan@medicine.adelaide.edu.au (Malcolm Pradhan)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: Help with NCSA TELNET and MacTCP
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:23:59 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Medicine, University of Adelaide
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
X-XXDate: Mon, 17 Aug 92 16:57:23 GMT

Hi Nathan,

In article <1992Aug13.004429.4590@comtech.ct.oz.au> Nathan Cher,
nathan@comtech.ct.oz.au writes:
>I am trying to get ncsa v2.4 to work with MacTCP (as it is
>meant to!).
>I have verified that MacTCP is working by using other programs
>however, when I start up the NCSA exec, it gives me an error 
>message of CANNOT ACCESS RESOLVER.

Have you set the correct option in the config.tel file? I'm pretty sure
that versions of Telnet > 2.42 use the Nameserver set in the MacTCP
control
panel, anything under that requires a line in the config.tel something
like: "name=hogan ; hostip=141.142.221.1 ; nameserver=1" where hogan is
your nameserver and hostip is its IP.

 It may be easier to just get the latest version of telnet which is 2.5
from archie.au

>Also, has anyone got operating a favourite newsreader for Mac
>(using MacTCP) that does not require NNTP or POP ? Perhaps a reader
>that simply logs in and acts as a front end?
>thanks in advance

 You need an NNTP server somewhere on your site to read news. Most
newsreaders will speak directly to the NNTP server and get the articles
from there. If you can read unix news then you should be able to read news
from your mac.

My favourite newsreader at the moment is Nuntius 1.1.1d7 - very slick and
so far it hasn't crashed (much:-).

Regards,
 Malcolm
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From: alex.ardalich@p27.f820.n680.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Alex Ardalich)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Dropple Menu?
Date: 10 Aug 92 02:22:41 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Original to: smith
 
 >Quite some time ago I came across references to an extension called
Dropple
 >Menu, but as we were not using System 7 at the time (1 year ago?) I didn't
get
 >a copy.
 >
 >This extension allowed files to be "dropped" onto entries of the Apple
menu to
 >be launched.
 >
 >I have looked at both the control panels and extensions folders of
sumex-aim
 >and cannot find any reference to this program.
 >
 >Does anyone know where it is? Does it still exist?
 
Try looking for Fred's Finder Hacks, I think it is in amongst there.

Alex.



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From: Ben.Hawkey@f291.n690.z3.fidonet.org (Ben Hawkey)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: Persia
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:26:50 +1000

You just have to press 5 to put your sword away. The mirror dude will then 
re-join with you and you'll be right to continiue.
Hope this helps
    Ben

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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: john@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Mackin)
Subject: Re: Wanted: mac print spooler for DEC unix
Organization: Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:45:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.033216.9394@ausom.oz.au>,
	msp@ausom.oz.au (Mark Perry) writes:

> We have a mac SE connected to a TI Microlaser. We would like to connect the
> laser to our DECstation running Ultrix 4.2a and connect the SE to our
> ethernet network so the unix machine can spool print jobs for our PCs as well.
>
> Does anyone know of a product that allows the mac to see the networked printer
> in the Chooser as if it was locally attached? Any advice would be gratefully
> accepted.

I don't know about the TI Microlaser, but I imagine from the above that
is an Appletalk device.  If it is, your problems are over.  Buy a
Dayna EtherPrint.  They cost around $840 including sales tax, or
perhaps you can get a better price.  They have an Ethernet port on
one side (you can get them with a 10BASE2 port or a 10BASET port) and
an Appletalk port on the other side.  They'll talk Ethertalk Phase 1
or Phase 2 (according to the documentation; I've only ever used Phase 1).

They work _great_.  I can't recommend them too highly.  Forget the
rest.

On the other hand, I suppose you might have meant you want to connect
the printer to the DECstation's serial port (although in that case,
if it doesn't do Appletalk, I am not sure I understand how you are
using it with the SE at the moment).  In that instance, you don't
have to buy any hardware.  The lwsrv program that comes with CAP
will advertise a UNIX printer to Macs.

-- 
John Mackin <john@physiol.su.oz.au>
`There's nothing wrong with shooting, as long as the right people get shot.'
	-Harry Calahan
From: ckloeden@f.itd.adelaide.edu.au (Craig Kloeden)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Folder Security
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:43:37 GMT
Organization: University of Adelaide
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
X-XXDate: Wed, 19 Aug 92 18:08:40 GMT

Is anybody using any utilities that protect a particular folder from
prying eyes by requiring a password to access its contents or something
similar?

Any recommendations would be welcome on free/share/pay ware solutions.

Thanks in advance,

      Craig
	 
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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: c9101548@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Fonts US vs Aust ??
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:51:29 GMT

I'd just like to get your thoughts on this
topic, given that the US has a rather silly
additude to everything legal eg converted fonts
( say freeware postscript to truetype for example )
If I had material like this where could I put it
so that only australians could access it, to avoid
legal problems from the states.
Would this group be ok, ( yes I know it's a 
discussion group but we're only talking a few K's)

I have discussed this with a legal friend, and he
says that Aust has no such laws.
I mean are we just an appendage of the U.S. or what ?

Yours etc

Justin Fitzgibbon
Newsgroups: aus.mac,aus.comms
From: tim@cs.su.oz.au  (Tim Nicholson)
Subject: Re: Nettcom Fax Modem 24
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:08:55 GMT

In article <sxc401.713672885@coombs>, sxc401@coombs.anu.edu.au (Soonthorn Chaiyindeepum) writes:
> I am thinking to buy either Nettcomm Auto Fax/Modem 24 or the Nettcomm Pocket
> Fax/Modem 24.  Both are on sell at the same price mark ($399) and they are
> technically the same except that the Auto Fax/Modem is designed for desktop
> while the Pocket one is compact and needs no external power.  I presume that
> both modems have a cable to plug into the Modem port, and a telephone line
> to connect with the wall socket.  But when I look at the Advertisement, the Pocket one also has a female plug like 21-pin socket.  WHat is that for ?

I am not really sure which modem you are speaking of, but
I think the Pocket version may come in more than one flavour.  You can get
ones which can derive power from a battery, external power supply, or (in the
case of the mac) from the ADB bus (the serial ports on some macs cannot supply
enough current! - according to Apple it is against the rules to try to get power from
them).  Using the ADB bus requires a peculiar cable which plugs into
both the ADB port and the serial port.  This connection may be the one you saw?

Tim.
From: neil.wallace@p21.f804.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Neil Wallace)
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Mac utility to convert TIFF to SiliconGraphics RGBA ???
Date: 10 Aug 92 19:06:37 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Original to: ianh@resmel.bhp.com.au
  iu> ianh@resmel.bhp.com.au (Ian Hoyle), via *IXgate 3:713/602
  iu> 
  iu> I need a Mac utility to convert TIFF images to SiliconGraphics RGBA
  iu> format.
  iu> 
  iu> Is there such a thing?? Perferably PD, but commercial offerings would
  iu> be considered ...

Have you tried XLateGraf? Its a util written by a couple Sydney dudes. Seems
to do most but I'm not familiar with SG RGBA format at all. 

I'd look at XLateGraf anyway, it's real neat...and free. Try archie.au

DNW 

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Newsgroups: aus.mac,comp.sys.mac.system
From: smith@pell.anu.edu.au (Michael Smith)
Subject: MacDump: Mac to Unix backup software
Organization: Australian National University
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:37:36


We have been attempting to get the MacDump Mac and Unix host software running
recently. We have run into serious problems, possibly due to the age of the
software, and cannot find any newer versions with either Archie or
exploration. This is partially a request for information on a new version of
the software if it exists.

We currently have Unix software that seems to have been written in 1987 by Dan
Tappan, including copyright notices for Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc dated
1987/1988.

( Dan --- if you are listening, we'd be interested to know if you or anyone
  you know of has made any updates to the Unix software. )

The Mac software we are running is Dumper chooser device version 3.2 (Feb
1990), and the Restore program version 2.1 (copyright 1988 by Bolt... again).


The Unix programs are built on top of the CAP libraries, so with the latest
CAP software installed it is possible that there may be few if any
modification required to the Dumper code in order to fully support system 7.


Our tests on two System 7 machines have resulted in all the information
apparently being transfered by the Mac Dumper to the Unix client without any
errors arising, but the resulting dump file cannot be fully listed with the
macdumpdir command --- it will get part way through the directory structure of
the dump, and then fail with a "Unknown record type xx" error message (here
"xx" was "40" in one case, and "688958490294"? in the other).

Failing any working versions arising, it would be useful to find out more
about the way files are stored on the Mac under system 7, since the programs
may be fixed simply by adding some new record types to the Unix programs.

Any help, suggestions, or comments welcome.

Thanks,
	Michael.


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From: Andrew.Ip@f291.n690.z3.fidonet.org (Andrew Ip)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: Re: Persia Solution
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 19:29:18 +1000

The solution of your problem :
Hide your sword [key pad "5" or other equivalent].  The mirror will do the 
same.  Then run towards him/it.
  
Hope you can solve it.
  

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From: u9161910@cs.uow.edu.au (Gareth William Omeara)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Early Died Pretty Re-released
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:11:47 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

Just thought I'd let fans of Died Pretty know that Citadel has just
re-released some of their early stuff including:

	* Free Dirt - Their first album + as a bonus
		      Stoneage Cinderella/Yesterday's Letters single

	* Pre Deity - Out of the unknown single
		    - Mirror Blues single
		    - Next to Nothing EP

If you haven't got these, don't miss this chance to get them ,because
they're fucking brillant.

Gareth.
u9161910@wraith.cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: AUSSIE TOP FORTY COUNTDOWNS
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 23:58:31 GMT


In article <a873be2e@Kralizec.fido.zeta.org.au>, adrian.mathew@f804.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Adrian Mathew) writes:
|> Hi', to all readers of AUS MUSIC.  How are you?   For some time I've been
|> listening to the  Top Forty  countdowns  which are producd locally.   Can

Where is 'locally' to you BTW?

|> anyone explain to me why there are three countdown shows on Aussie
|> commercial radio.  There's "TAKE FORTY AUSTRALIA" with Barrie  Bissel, "THE
|> ROCK FORTY COUNTDOWN" with Mike Hammond and "THE BEAT" with NICK Bennit. 
|> All of these shows have virtually the same chart.  Could it be that the
|> radio stations simply want ratings or are they serious about promoting good

I hate want to shatter your illusions adrian, but NO commercial radio station
on this _planet_ gives a shit about what is good or bad music.  They promote music
which sells and also appeals to the market their station is targeted at.

They want ratings ratings ratings!  There's an excellent film called "Network"
you should see.  It's about commercial TV but applies to radio.  Even though it's
20 years old - it's bang up to date!

|> music?  What are your thoughts?  Bye for Now, Adrian Mathew.     

As far as commercial charts go - the one which is most likely to reflect true
popularity (sales) is the ARIA chart which you'll find in most music magazines.

brian
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From: csb960dean@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Cry
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:25:48 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

In article <13997@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au>, s891932@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Chris Warr) writes:
> Who sang the original 'Cry', that Lisa Edwards has just covered?
> 
> 
Godley & Creme did the original, in the early Eighties (I think!!)

Michael

Newsgroups: aus.music
From: carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER)
Subject: Re: Over zealous bouncers at Hunters & Collectors gig (Melb Aug 1st)
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:55:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.050512.21542@mel.dit.csiro.au> brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
>
>In article <9223000.17380@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (Carl_Ivan BREWER) writes:
>
>I thought Carl_Ivan BREWER agreed with the DHoH's TV philosophy!

I may agree with the lyrics, but I don't have to like the way they 
say it  :)

*death* to sampled "music", drum machines and plastic noise  :)

give me a 12 bar any day  ;-)


 Annal  Natrach, Usthvah Spethed,         carl@ecr.mu.oz.au (IRC: Bleve)
 Dochoel Dienve                           carl@munagin.ee.mu.oz.au
					  carl@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Nu-Music and unsigned bands
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 07:55:09 GMT


In article <1992Aug19.095016.15650@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au>, rxkand@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Andrew Hall) writes:
|> >|> Regarding Aussie unsigned artists.
|> >|> 
|> >|> Studio 52 in Johnston Street, Fitzroy are doing a great job of making cd
|> >|> release accessible to unsigned bands with their nu-music sampler series.  
|> 
|> >For bands thinking of undertaking a recording on future compilations from this
|> >stable - be prepared to bargain with the organization.  A place on this recording
|> >doesn't come cheap. 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|>       their sampler is only a way to get people into their studio
|>       
       
Ta.  Studio 52 has a hard time keeping in business.  Solve the problem?       
20 bands on each CD = 20 days studio time paid for.  4 compilations per year       
= 20% of the year booked out automatically!       
       
Nice little earner.       
       
Seeing as the compilation is advertised as 'purely a promotional device for       
the bands involved'.  No band on the compilation has had a record deal of any       
kind shown their way yet.   This isn't necessarily Studio 52's fault, but it       
certainly isn't their major concern :-)       
       
Simply put - selection criteria for the compilation is "well, have you got the $?"       
        
I think the idea could be worked well.....but is also another avenue to
exploitation.       
      
brian
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Ed K - little commercial airplay( was Re: AUSSIE TOP FORTY COUNTDOWNS)
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 05:28:13 GMT


In article <1992Aug19.041851.19579@cs.uow.edu.au>, u9161910@cs.uow.edu.au (Gareth William Omeara) writes:
|> 
|> If these stations were serious about promoting good music why won't
|> they play certain artists who recently made the mainstream charts
|> yet are ignored by the mainstream radio staions who play these charts.
|> The two main artists I'm talking about are Died Pretty (Top 20 album)
|> and Ed Kuepper (Top 30 album).Does anybody know why mainstream radio
|> won't play them.

No idea.  This is a strange one.  The only though that comes to mind could
have something to do with the record label he's on.  It's a stab in the dark,
but possible.

Ed K is on Hot records, distributed by Shock.  COuld it be that as Shock are
an independent label, that the commercial stations ignore them?  Maybe Shock
don't have the staff to hassle every commercial station around the country for
airplay - being a smallish independent label...

Maybe joe public isn't ringing up stations enough to request Ed.

BUT, Died Pretty are on a major label - right?  Maybe they fell foul of the
stations/their label promotions dept for some reason..


Test:  I don't listen to commercial radio, so can someone who does tell the net
if any independent label music gets consistent airplay on any commercial station
in the country?  A recent example would be the _first_ Frente EP (...ah - maybe
that didn't make the ARIA charts?).

That might help to shed some light....or then again not!

brian
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Info wanted on Freaked Out Flower Children
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 07:26:01 GMT


In article <1992Aug17.055012.7682@trl.oz.au>, lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron Lightwood) writes:
|> Does anyone know the names of the band menbers of the Freaked Out
|> Flower Children?
|> 

Ummmm, well there's Sophie Lee  :-)  That enough info!

brian
(their said mini LP or whatever gained 3 stars (good) in Rolling Stone - for
what it's worth)
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