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From: dave@snitor.UUCP (Dave Till)
Subject: Re: Least Valuable Players (career)
Organization: Bob Macdonald Has A Role (EIEIO) Inc.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:01:15 GMT

Note:  I am not disagreeing with Roger's opinion of Alfredo "That Lovable
Rally Killer" Griffin.  I'm just tossing in a few facts.

>On the other hand, what can you say of Cleveland, who let go of him
>after three years in order to hold onto the immortal Tom Veryzer?

Cleveland traded Griffin because they wanted to acquire Victor Cruz, a
relief pitcher who blew smoke, had a motion just like Luis Tiant's, and
had had a hot half-season with the Jays in 1978.

Cruz didn't do a thing for Cleveland, and Griffin was better than
what the Jays had before (no, really!), so the Indians got hosed by
this deal.

>They didn't improve because of Griffin.  They became winners by adding
>Upshaw, Barfield, Mulliniks, Cliff Johnson, and -- Tony Fernandez. 

Actually, it was the acquisition of Bill Caudill and the development of
Tom "You Can't Hit What You Can't See" Henke that turned the Jays
into winners.  They became *contenders* by adding Upshaw, Barfield,
etc., etc.  (Excuse me while I pick these nits from my clothes :-).)

>Bench and clubhouse, fine.  Field -- perhaps he's better than most
>Dodger fielders; I mean, we're talking about the Bill Russell Memorial
>Infield, here.  But think how much MORE effective he'd be if they didn't
>play him at all, and he didn't screw up so many innings with his
>ineptitude at the plate, and just spread his niceness all over the
>clubhouse and let somebody else on the roster.  He's so nice the Dodgers
>unhitched him the moment Offerman was ready.

I stopped being impressed by Jose Offerman when he lost out to Griffin in
1991.  After all, how good do you have to be to beat out Alfredo?

>Or do you just read what the sportswriters, who are basically paid to be
>boosters, write in the Toronto papers?  

A few of them are boosters.  However, most of them spend their
time whining about athletes being overpaid.  (I'm thinking of Marty York
of the Globe and Jim Proudfoot of the Star in particular.)  These last
used to spend a lot of time bashing George Bell for refusing to DH for Jimmmmy
"26th Best Third Base Coach In The Majors" Williams.
-- 
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2235 Sheppard Ave. E. #1800, Willowdale, Ont. (dave@sni.CA or dave@snitor.uucp)
"Whatever you do, Jerry Lee Lewis has already done it.  Probably better, too."
  --Jimmy Guterman and Owen O'Donnell
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From: jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe Lundy)
Subject: Re: Eckersley better than Fingers
Organization: The NRA (National Rugrat Association)
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 21:16:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.180309.1448@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan) writes:
|> winstonc@aludra.usc.edu (|) writes:
			    ^
			    |? |/!!!
|> >Oooh, the killer logic. I'll take Gary Blickhan's arguments over
|> >David Tate's arguments any minute of the day. Period. I don't care
|> >what those arguments are (whoever thought them up).
|> 
|> >The guy's also managed to insult just about every respected writer
|> >on the net--all in the name of recreation. Maybe we should just put
|> >him in our kill files, eh?
|> 
|> "Every respected writer?"  You talk like David Tate is some big shot paid
|> by the major leagues to write for here.  If he is, he's wasting his time
|> quibbling about .04& ERA adjustments and whatnot.

...and every disrespected writer as well.  

By picking on David Tate, you are trying to shake the foundation that this 
newsgroup was built upon.  I don't know about Illinois, but down here in Florida
David Tate is a legend.  In fact, forget H. Ross Perot, draft Tate!

The Kill file option is your perogative, |.  Just when things are getting
interesting, though.  Just don't go mixing apples and oranges, or beans and
franks, or something like that, its late.

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From: fwt4290@summa.tamu.edu (TSAO, FREDDIE WEI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Ken Griffey?
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:14:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: summa.14APR199216141161
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hey Sports fans,

	Is it my overlooking, or has Ken Griffey Jr. not been playing?
If he is not, please tell me the reason.

							Thanks...
								
							Fred... 
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From: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Subject: Re: The Best in the A.L.
Reply-To: s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 01:16:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.132957.18984@cs.dal.ca> niguma@ug.cs.dal.ca (Gordon Niguma) writes:
>
>   I started thinking about the best players in the A.L. and it seems in most
>cases who the best players are, here they are by postition:
>
>C: Mickey Tettleton
  yup
>1B: Cecil Fielder
  Rafeal Palmeiro
>2B: Julio Franco     (could argue Alomar though I guess)
  Definately Alomar
>SS: Cal Ripken       (Manny Lee a close 2nd though 8-))
  yup
>3B: Wade Boggs
  Robin Ventura
>LF: Rickey Henderson
  yup
>CF: Ken Griffey Jr.
  yup
>RF: Jose Canseco
  Ruben Sierra
>DH: Frank Thomas
  yup
>SP: Rocket Clemens
  yup
>RP: Dennis Eckersley
  Brian Harvey

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From: mgriffin@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Mark Griffin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: D. Bell out, probably lost ROTY
Date: 9 Apr 1992 08:56:09 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Summary: Derek Bell broke wrist
Keywords: Derek Bell injured

Yesterday, Derek Bell took a pitch on the wrist.  It is a similar injury that
Canseco had a couple of years ago when he missed 88 games.  It's ashame, 
because if he's out for an extended time, it will probably cost him Rookie of
the Year.  I'm sure alot of Fantasy owners are crying over this one. 
Fortunately, I'm not one of them.   I would guess the Blue Jays owners aren't
too excited either.
-- 
.   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .  .
. Mark Griffin, Sys Admin, Fort Hays State University      | UNIX: It's IT and .
. Internet:mgriffin@matt.ksu.ksu.edu Bitnet:mgriffin@ksuvm |     That's THAT!  .
.   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .  .
From: exurln@avata.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Cardinal Fans Caravan
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:45:18 GMT
Reply-To: exurln@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr4.221826.16320@bradley.bradley.edu>, dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
|> >/ hpcvlx:rec.sport.baseball / cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter) / 10:45 am  Mar 31, 1992 /
|> >
|> >* It is said their are very few St. Louis Cardinal fans.  
|>
|>  
|> There probably aren't many Cards fans on the net because there are very few
|> Usenet nodes in Missouri or southern Illinois.  By the time one gets this
|> far north, they're all Cubs fans.  But I have seen Mizzou, Rolla,
|> Wash U, and SIU here and there in newsgroups, so there are a few no doubt.

Not all Cards fans are in Missouri and Illinois.  They have a pretty strong
following as far  west as Denver (probably due to KMOX transmission and lack of
a major league team), south through Arkansas and Texas (same as above), Tennessee
and Kentucky.  I would expect to find quite a few Cards fans.

Any of those redbird fans who wish to subscribe to the REDBIRDS-L mailing list
need only to send me some mail for more information.

|> 
|> And you can't count me among the net Cardinals fans!

To each his own.

-- -- 
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From: horj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Eric Scheirer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Kevin Maas (note correct spelling :-) )
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:29:53 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Does anywone who follows the Yankees regularly know what's up with him?  Is
he likely to get any playing time this year, barring injuries to Mattingly/
Barfield?
-- 
Eric Scheirer -- Cornell University, Ithaca, NY -- (607) 253-2431
"I got remote control and a color TV; I don't change channels so they
 must've changed me." -- Billy Joel
From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Henderson vs. Ryan
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:23:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1992Apr16.124412.14428@avalon.nwc.navy.mil> lalor@cod.nosc.mil (Joe Lalor) writes:
>Without looking 8^), I seem to recall that Nolan's career ERA is better than
>pitchers such as Palmer as well as other 300 win and HOF pitchers. 

Ryan's career ERA through last season 3.15.  Palmer's was 2.86.  Tom
Seaver's was also 2.86.  

>but a lot of those runs didn't get home.  Definitly, in the Ranger era, stat
>wise, he has been as dominant as any pitcher over the last 4 years, but
>such as is the case with Ryan, he doesn't have the big won-loss record.

Ryan has not been as dominant as Roger Clemens over the last 4 years.
Clemens has had one season with an ERA over 3 in the last 6 years, while
pitching in Fenway.  Ryan has had 2 sub-3.00 ERA season in the last six,
one coming in the Astrodome.  

In fact, there's never been a period when Ryan was clearly dominant.  He's
only won 2 ERA titles, 1981 and 1987.  The strikeouts and the no-hitters
are impressive, but that's not the same thing as dominating, like a Koufax
was.  

It hasn't been that long ago that there was serious question about Ryan's
qualifications for the Hall of Fame.  His amazing longevity have answered
those questions, but it shouldn't be allowed to cloud the facts.  Ryan is
clearly a Hall of Fame pitcher, but I certainly wouldn't rate him among the
top all-time pitchers.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Eckersley NOT better than Fingers
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:02:01 GMT

> Let's just remember just how dominant Eckersley was in those three years as a 
> converted starter whose career was thought to be washed up:
> 
> He had a tremendous (almost unbelievable) strikeout/walk ratio, perhaps the best
> in history (certainly in my memory - up there in the stratosphere with Fergie
> Jenkins).  Not only that, he didn't have this "make you nervous" kind of 
> reardonish (adj.) or smithian (adj.) or even goosian or rollian (all adjectives
> look 'em up) fear that someone could get up there and hit a homer.  In fact
> I'm sure the stats would back me up on this if anyone's got them.  Forget the
> saves, look at the overall success.

I remember the one year when he had an ERA of something absurd like
0.61 or something.  he gave up only four earned runs the whole year!
However, I think the best stat for short relievers is the percentage of
inherited runners allowed to score, and it's really overlooked in the media.
Saves are fine, put a pitcher can come in and throw 1 pitch and get a save.
 
> Lest we forget, Eck pitched a no-hitter with Cleveland in '77.  Dave Duncan and
> Tony LaRussa deserve a lot of credit for turning the careers of Dave Stewart and
> the Eck around, switching their traditional roles.  Both were overwhelmingly
> effective for that three year stint.

Can't argue with that.
 
> Should Rollie be in the hall?  I still say yes, despite what the writers think.
> Should Eck make it?  Hmmm.  I'd put him on an even par with Roger Maris.

Oh, here we go again, comparing apples and oranges.  How can you compare a
pitcher and a position player?  If you're saying the chances of Eck making
the HOF are about the same as those of Maris, then okay, I suppose that
_that_ is a valid comparison, assuming you're comparing Maris' stats vs.
those of other comparable players in his era, and Eck's stats vs. comparable 
players in HIS era.  I just don't get it when people say things like,
"Rickey Henderson is a better player than Nolan Ryan."  That's like saying
"Dan Marino is a better player than Lawrence Taylor."  They have TOTALLY
different jobs.  Put Rickey Henderson on the mound and see how well he
strikes out batters.  Put Nolan Ryan on the basepaths and see how well he
steals bases.  You simply cannot compare them, I think.

Ken
From: steele@athena.cs.uga.edu (Frank Steele)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Barry Larkin injury
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:43:51 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

I don't have all the details, but I'm sure many Reds fans couldn't listen
to today's game with the Braves....Good news is, the Reds won 3-1.

Bad news is, in the top of the 8th, Deion (Willie Mays Jr.) Sanders lofted
a pop fly along the right-field line. Larkin charging out, Braggs charging
in. (You can probably see this coming; it's much like the old "who wins?"
questions they give you in drivers' ed -- the locomotive or the sports car.)

Anyway, Larkin got a glove on the ball, but Braggs caught him in the glove
arm. Larkin was badly shaken up, and left the game. There was only a short
report after the game on his condition, and I missed part of it (seeing as
I was listening in at work), but it sounded as if there was no long-term 
damage, but that he may sit out a game or two. Obviously, if you have more
information, please pass it along.

Frank
steele@athena.cs.uga.edu
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From: sfh@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven F. Hubbard)
Subject: schedule needed
Reply-To: sfh@po.CWRU.Edu (Steven F. Hubbard)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:48:16 GMT



   I am in a fantasy league that will be following the 1991 NL schedule.
Does anyone have or know where I can get a copy of it?  Please respond
via email.

thanks in advance and more thanks to come,

SfH
From: ky0l+@andrew.cmu.edu (King-Han Yao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Predictions compilation
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:12:15 GMT
Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Someone (apologies, I forgot your name) was taking tallies of
predictions by readers of this group.  Have you posted the compilation
of those predictions yet?  If you haven't, could you please?  If you
have, I missed them, could you please send me a copy?

Thanks.



-------------
King Yao                       
Economics 
Class of '92                   
Carnegie Mellon
From: SASCHO@mvs.sas.com (SASCHO)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: DUMB inexcusable play
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:29:00 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
X-Bytes: 1658

>Come on, if Coleman *knew* before he tried to steal the base that he
>would be out, and then tried to steal it anyway, then it was dumb. But
>if he knew he had a 95% chance of making it, and happened to be
>thrown out unluckily, then you can't dismiss it as necessarily dumb.
>
>If I know (100%, not 99.99999%) that I'm going to lose the lottery,
>and I play it anyway, then I am being dumb. But if there is a
>1% chance for me to win $200, and I pay only $1 for a ticket, then
>I am not necessarily being dumb. (Nor am I necessarily being smart,
>because I might have a rent payment due tomorrow and cash flow
>problems, etc...)
>
I responded to a couple of personal mail messages about this, so I
might as well respond to all at once. My point is this: In order to
make the attempt at third worthwhile, you need to get the odds as
close to 100% in your favor as you can. Wait til the pitcher forgets
about you, or steal a sign and go when you know the pitch is in your
favor, or wait til the 3rd baseman is out of position. Coleman obviously
didn't do these, cuz he got thrown out. And w/ Bonilla batting. Then
Bonilla leads off the next inning w/ a solo dinger. Do you think
that the Mets are paying Bonilla $5 mil a year hoping he'll hit solo
shots? I'll accept the risk if your pitcher is batting and you want
to try and force an error. But not w/ Bonilla batting. Better a man
on second w/ 2 outs than playing defense cuz you got caught stealing.
 
As far as the lottery goes, I'll say you're dumb until you win, then
I'll say you're a genius! :-)
 
 
Chuck Oertli
SAS INSTITUTE INC.
AUSTIN, TX                                      SASCHO@MVS.SAS.COM
From: zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Overshadowed By Fate Huckabay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Oakland A's Dream Team
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:03:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucdavis.12083
Organization: Bob Gajarsky Wallet Losing Society

(Gary "Give this man a thorazine" Blickhan) writes:
>>RP	Dennis Eckersley
>>RP	Rollie Fingers
>
>Dennis Eckersley doesn't deserve to be listed with (no less above) Fingers.
>
>Fingers was awesome!!!  He was on their great teams from 1973-1975, or 
>whenever.  The Eck was the goat of the 1988 Series, and he didn't do
>anything in 1990.  Championships and saves are important.
>The Eck just doesn't compare.  He spent his time being a mediocre starter
>on the Cubs staff.

Rubbish.  Tripe.  Swill.  Wrong.  Foolish.

You're right.  They don't compare.  Dennis Eckersley, from 1987-1991,
is the greatest reliever that has ever played the game.  Rollie
Fingers was a fine reliever, but just can't make that claim.

As for championships mattering - Eck has a WS ring, and three ALCS
rings.  And the A's would've been hard pressed to get there without
him.

He was a pretty fair starting pitcher as well - not great, but fair.

We A's fans remember the STINK he made about going to the bullpen.

Hee Hee Hee...



-- 
*    Gary Huckabay    * "They sent Brosius down."  "So Lansford has the job?" *
*   "A considerably   * "Yep.  And it looks like Bordick has won the 2B job." *
*  shorter fuse than  * "I guess I better make postseason plans now." "Good   *
*    Sherri Nichols." *  idea.  Call Puget Sound Airways." - GH & EG.         *
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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: Trivia Questions
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:54:07 GMT

In article <Edrmc7m00Uh7Q1b25W@andrew.cmu.edu> mn1s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael  
Scott Neiberg) writes:

> 1.  The Yankees were one of baseball's last teams to break the color
> line.  Who was the player and when did make his pinstripe debut?

Vic Power got traded, so how about Elston Howard?
 
> 2.  This pitcher threw a perfect game and in the course of doing so
> collected 3 hits and 4 RBI.  Name him.

hmmm.... Cy Young?? (shot in the dark)
 
> 3.  What was the first team to win a pennant without a 20 game winner, a
> ..300 hitter, or a 100 RBI man?

1959 White Sox??

john rickert
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: reynard@susie.cs.scarolina.edu (John Reynard)
Subject: Re: Expos 4, Mets 0
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:42:34 GMT


to0b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Thomas Oligino) writes:

>Expos 4 Mets 0
>>What about those METS!, huh?  What about that totally innocent Mets
>ace?(Gooden)
>>From:Nelson Lu

>    6 2/3 innings-2 earned runs-3 hits. I can live with that considering
>it was his first game back. Why don't we give him a few weeks before we
>start burying one of the best pitchers ever. I don't think this outing
>is going to have many opposing teams salivating at the thought of facing
>Mr. Dwight Gooden.
>    

>UUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
>U
>            
>           Go Mets                                 Tom O
>                                                   Dept Biological Sciences
>                                                   Carnegie Mellon University
>           
>CCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCC
>C
>  One of the best pitchers ever????!!!!!
 I guess that Bonilla is also one of the best hitters ever too.
 Jesus man, get your mind out of the early Gooden carrer mindset and into
reality.  His carrer numbers are about average until you count wins which
are a stat which shows run support and not pitching.
I do agree the outing was sound though even with my biases against the Mets.
Just don't believe the propaganda about Gooden's awesomeness carrerwise.

John
Go Expos
                                  
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (J.'Doc' Exby)
Subject: Re: Cecil is a god!!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 02:18:48 GMT

burger@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Schlossberg) writes:

>And, I have Cecil on my fantasy team.

I don't know many who find fantasy food eating teams all that exciting...
but I am glad it works for you.

>GO CECIL!!!

yeah, go to weight watchers.

::j
go go Sox

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: jjd3@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Dibenedetto)
Subject: Mets and Yankees
Reply-To: jjd3@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Dibenedetto)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:07:13 GMT


Living next door to a rabid (and rabid applies in the oroginal meaning of
the word, too!) Mets fan, and being a life-long Yankee fan, I can't help but
be overjoyed at the season so far.  

One thing that struck me lastseason, in July, and is even more clear now,
is that the Mets oftoday have turned into the Yankees of the early 1980's.
It's funny,because you'd think by now that teams would learn that
indiscriminately buying players at absurd salaries doesn't work.  Just ask
George Steinbrenner.  Ask someone from Kansas City how they feel about that, too
while youre at it...

But the Mets, in their Steinbrenneresque decline, don't see it.  They've become
a bunch of overpaid, overhyped, scandal-attracting bums.  God, it's nice
to see...


-- 
James John DiBenedetto (jjde@po.cwru.edu, V064QPCD@ubvms.buffalo.edu)
Law Student, State University of New York at Buffalo
always remember...
                  It happens sometimes.  People just explode.  Natural causes.
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Stealing Third
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:32:15 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <204617@unix.cis.pitt.edu> dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
>In article <19920408104543SASCHO@mvs.sas.com> SASCHO@mvs.sas.com (SASCHO) writes:
>>In baseball, you never make the third out at third. NEVER. 
>Actually, we can compute just how dumb this was, to some extent.
>[...]
>implying that this is only a winning bet if p > 35/39, which is between 89%
>and 90% success.
>
>Now, Coleman's career success rate for stealing 3rd is probably right around
>90%.  

Top Stealers of Third last year, NL (5 or more attempts)
Larkin, 	10/10
Bonds, 		9/9
Landrum, 	9/9
Dykstra, 	5/5
D. Martinez, 	5/5
D. White, 	5/5
Alomar, 	21/22
Cuyler, 	10/11
HoJo, 		7/8
Grissom, 	18/21
Nixon, 		13/15
Polonia, 	17/20
R. Henderson, 	21/27
Coleman, 	6/8
Cole, 		5/7
Pettis, 	5/7
Sax, 		5/7
DeShields, 	8/12
Franco, 	4/6
-- 
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1307 E 60 St, #109 +  is the skin of a living thought and may vary greatly in
U o' C Law Skool   +  color and content according to the circumstances and
Chi, IL 60637      +  the time in which it is used."  --  Holmes
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