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From: hbawl@usmi02.midland.chevron.com (Wilber L. Baker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Band Provided Housing
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:48:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chevron

In article <1gaj6nINNgdr@agate.berkeley.edu> timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro) writes:
>
>I was curious as to how many college bands out there
>have living quarters reserved specifically for folks
>in their band.
>
>We here at Cal have an old frat house which houses about
>30-40 male members of the Band (Male only since it only
>has communal showers).  The house is actually owned
>by a Board of Directors made up of Band alums who handle
>the rent and upkeep of the house.
>
>I'm positive that this is not unique to Cal.  What other
>bands out there provide similar living situations?

     Well, ...this probably doesn't fit your description, but...

     At Texas A&M,  the Band is housed in it's own dorm as a
     self-contained military organization.   Actually, the
     Aggie Band is one of four battallions in a 2000 member
     Corps of Cadets (very large ROTC program).   Membership
     in the Corps of Cadets gives a student guaranteed 
     housing on campus in 'the Corps dorms'.   Free ??
     Not Hardly!!   I think the current rate is $600/semester
     plus  $680  for a meal-plan (yep, you live together, and
     you eat together).

     By the way,  TAMU is not a military institution.  
     The Corps of Cadets has about 2000 members....
     The entire University enrolls about  39,600 students!
    
     Also, I mentioned 'guaranteed housing',  but PARKING ..
                     Good Luck !
>
>--Tim
>Cal Band '86-'90
>
>
>-- 
>Tim Castro		    *   "When the air becomes uranious
>U.C. Berkeley               *    We will all go simultaneous
>timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU      *    Yes we all will go together when we go." 
>timc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU       *           --Tom Lehrer, 1958



-Wilber L. Baker              hbawl@[usmi02.]midland.chevron.com
    UNIX/VAX                Chevron Petroleum Technology Company
     Admin.                Midland, TX   79705    (915) 687-7241
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From: jthomson@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John A Thomson)
Subject: Re: greetings all
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:57:16 GMT

In article <01050023.ks4nq1@chinchilla.cars.com> chinchilla!niel@cars.com writes:
>
>In article <1g1savINN75f@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> (rec.arts.marching.misc), lazarus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu writes:
>>I (finally) made it a point to pledge with Kappa Kappa Psi this season,
>>and SHOULD be an active by the end of January.
>
>Hey, good point.  Any other brothers/sisters of KKPsi/Tau Beta Sigma
>out there?  

Yup!  :)  I'm a Brother from UMass/Amherst EN-KKPsi!  How are things out
there/down there?  We just got dumped on with a TON of snow.  We'll still
march, though.... :)

---John




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From: hch@oclc.org (Curtis Hunter)
Subject: Re: I don't wanna post WGI here
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:30:58 GMT

In article <Dec.16.10.15.17.1992.11384@andromeda.rutgers.edu> dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki) writes:
>fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
>
>
>P.S.  I believe that winter guard gets started in California and Boston
>in DECEMBER.  Has anyone heard of shows going on this month?
>
>Ken
  
   Most winter guard shows start after the first of the year.  There are 
several preview shows but don't expect the guards to have their show done or
cleaned.  Some guards have completed their shows but have not cleaned them too
much so they just do the portions of the show that look good.

   So far I have show schedules for OCGC (Ohio Color Guard Circuit) and 
Midwest Color Guard Circuit.  These schedules can be obtained through the
Winter Guard Information Service.  Watch for a posting on this around Monday.



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From: jthomson@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John A Thomson)
Subject: Presidential Inauguration Parade
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:05:10 GMT

Hi!  Just a curious question to all:  Has anyone out there ever marched in the
Presidential Inauguration?  The UMMB has a chance at going - they've been
before, but I wasn't in school.  What's it like?  It should be one of the most
incredible parades ever!

-John

Epsilon Nu - Kappa Kappa Psi says hello!


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From: twomblyk@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (Kristian Twombly)
Subject: Re: HOWDY!!!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:41:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.190115.21684@ncsu.edu> ajstorey@eos.ncsu.edu  
(ALEXANDER JOHN STOREY) writes:
> Maryland, Ga. Tech: not impressed. Saw both on their home fields.

Ehem (again)

Our Drum Line as a whole may not be the best in the ACC....

Our snares could rip yours apart, though
Captain - Made Cadets of BC Tenor Captain in rookie year (had quit dur to  
financial reasons)
2nd Snare - WAS Cadets Tenor Captain last year...
Those are two of the most outrageous players I've ever seen...

Frosh from NC State?....
Give me some more to laugh about!

Kristian "Waldo" Twombly

PS - You guys from Va. please learn how to read while you're there (if  
it's possible)
  My name is Kristian (as in Christian as in MALE...not Kristen...)
  DUH
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: yourmom@storm.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: cheerleaders: kill them or just disembowel?
Reply-To: aelman@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 00:25:29 GMT

lsjumb@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stanford Band) writes:
: In article <glurp> jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu)) writes:
: 
[...]
: >
: >Fun:  the spellout cheer (letter by letter) T-H-E W-I-L-L-I-A-M M-A-R-S-H 
: >R-I-C-E I-N-S-T-I-T-U-T-E F-O-R T-H-E A-D-V-A-N-C-E-M-E-N-T O-F
: >L-E-T-T-E-R-S S-C-I-E-N-C-E A-N-D A-R-T . (period)
: 
: I think bands tend to always have the best cheers - some LSJUMB faves:
: 
: PurSUE them
: PurSUE them
: MAKE them reLINquish the BALL
: 
: (repeat until crowd catches on - flip them off when they act like stunned
: sheep - there's a corresponding one for offense to that Ethan came up with,
: but I forget how it goes - in the meantime, there's:)
: 
: Be offensive, be be offensive (hey)
: 
: (repeat until crowd catches on)
: 
: ohhhhhhHHHHHHHH SHIT! (there are several more verses to this Holiday
: Classic and Family Favorite, but we won't repeat them here, and the
: team's doing to well to use it as often as we'd like.  **sigh** )
: 

And of course, don't forget the "DE-fense" cheer in various meters
other than the standard 4-4 -- Once, we started in 3, then went to 5,
then went to 7...

Not to mention the "Binary Defense" cheer, although I appear to be the
only person anymore who likes it (and I'm not about to do it by
myself...).  Basically, you have 0 = clap and 1 = "DEFENSE!", and you
count from 000 to 111 in binary...

=======================================================================
Adam Elman				o o	
aelman@cs.stanford.edu			 |
P.O. Box 12002 Stanford, CA 94309	\_/
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: tonyamm@carson.u.washington.edu (Tonya May)
Subject: >>> NEW SUBJECT <<< 
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:50:34 GMT


  New subject:  Weirdest place you've performed a show.

  The Wisconsin Marching Band came to Seattle for their game
against the UW Huskies.  While they were here they had to 
perform on the FLIGHT DECK of an naval aircraft carrier.  Wierd.



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From: clove@cs.uiuc.edu (Christopher Love)
Subject: Re: Credit for band?
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
	<1992Dec18.003311@IASTATE.EDU>
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:15:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.003311@IASTATE.EDU> knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites) writes:

   I was just wondering what kind of credit you guys get for beibg in your marching
   bands.  At Iowa State we practice an hour and a half each weekday and about an
   hour on gamedays for one credit and no grade!  I know some bands get more
   credit, and some get a grade to go into their GPA.  What's the scoop?

At Illinois, we got 1 hour credit for all of our trevails...as I recall, we
had some "alternate" lyrics to our Three-In-One which glorified this:

	"We are marching for one hour's credit...
	 Through the rain and the sleet and the slush..."

We did get a grade for the one hour...

Cheers,
	Chris
--
Christopher J. Love || Texas Instruments, Inc. || I don't speak for TI
clove@lobby.ti.com  || Lewisville, TX          ||     Go Illini!   
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From: hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey)
Subject: Re: cheerleaders: kill them or just disembowel?
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:27:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.031629.186@leland.Stanford.EDU>
   stanford@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Stanford) writes:
>
>Anyway, I was curious about relations between other bands and their
>cheerleaders and dance squads (would color guards and flag patrols
>and such fit in here?).  I know that the Cal student body is much like
>the Stanford student body in a degree of apathy towards their
>cheerleaders (correct me if I'm wrong, of course).  Howz about the
>rest of you?

At Ohio State, the relations between the band and cheerleaders were fine.
Of course, we had one of the best cheerleading squads in the country.
In fact, the mutual respect that the cheerleaders, band, and football
team have really helped present a unified front for home games.  Now if we
could only get the scoreboard operator to be with us :-)

Now, relations between the band and the Scarlet Steppers was another story.
In case you didn't know, the OSU band has no non-playing members performing
except the drum major.  That means no dance squad.  This was fine with us.

However, the Steppers have always pressured the administration to be part of
the band, or at least be allowed to appear as an official group at football
games.  The band's refusal to allow this has resulted in frosty relations
between the groups, needless to say.  But we don't allow it because we don't
want to disturb that unified spirit that we project at home games.  Plus,
the Steppers certainly do not match the military style of the band.

And most important, this is what they get for calling us band geeks in high
school :-)

Reply-To: hulsey%dbsun.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
hulsey%dbsun.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Jim Hulsey)   TBDBITL '84 ('85 Rose Bowl)
An Ohioan living in Misery (Missouri, same difference)

Pick up your feet!                  To be early is to be on time
Turn your corners square!           To be on time is to be late
And drive, drive, drive!            To be late is to be left
From: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Quick band-ish question....
Followup-To: rec.arts.marching.misc
Date: 16 Dec 1992 19:30:40 GMT
Organization: Systems Support Center, BCM
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: j.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1992Dec12.201656.25717@newstand.syr.edu>,
jmoulton@mothra.syr.EDU (Ana Ng) wrote:
...
> >...
> >> How many people have chapters of KKPsi and/or TBS at their schools?
> >...
> >The MOB doesn't.  There are *no* "greeks" (frats/sororities) at Rice. 
> 				  ^^^^^^^^
> One thing. KKPsi and TBS are the national honorary service fraternity
> and sorority for bands. *Not* just another bunch of "greeks"...
> Just wanted to clarify.
> -Jen

Whoa! I'm *sorry*!  I didn't mean to come across in a derogatory fashion,
if that's how you perceived it.  I'm only displaying the depth of my
ignorance about KKY.

bcnu - grungy (John Gladu) Rice U. MOBster
Systems Support Center -- Baylor College of Medicine
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: mss2e@Virginia.EDU ("")
Subject: Re: greetings all
Organization: Twat did you say?  I cunt hear you!
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:32:23 GMT

Funny you mention it, but a guy asked us to propose for him in
the middle of the game.  We were already to, but then he
chickened out.  What we had come up with was to do the standard
proposal, "I love you, blah blah, mush, mush, mush", but close
with.. "Remember the deal, Bob.  She says yes and WE get to keep
the first kid."

	Mick Stone
From: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: School Songs
Followup-To: rec.arts.marching.misc
Date: 17 Dec 1992 14:24:22 GMT
Organization: Systems Support Center, BCM
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: j.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu

Where do school songs come from?
Where do they go?
What schools are playing stolen or borrowed tunes as school songs?

Rice has three current, official school songs:

1) the Alma Mater, "Rice's Honor" - this is "Our Director" with words
   (BTW, "Our Director" was the first tune I learned to play back in '64)
2) the "Rice Fight Song" - seems to be original material
3) and "Bonnet" - which is "Put on Your Old Grey Bonnet" with words and a
break 
   strain that no one can possibly sing because it's the entire first part
of
   the song played double-cut-time AND has "Shave and a Haircut" as a
stinger.
3.4) "Louie, Louie" has *almost* (unfortunately) taken on 'school song'
status
   because of the student body's ludicrous desire to hear it over and over
and
   over... (we've developed a vocal version with much arm-waving and a loud
   *grunt!* in the middle to save our lips and our sanity).

Someone arranged a new song for us back in the '70s (unsolicited) that he
titled simply "Rice".  It was wretched.  I was music librarian at the time
and filed it in our "Toad" files.  This was reserved for tunes we would
never intentionally play again...

I've heard rumors that there was another school song based on the main
theme from "Finlandia" that appeared somewhen in the sixties, but it was
squashed by the alumni.  Apparently they didn't want "Rice's Honor/Our
Director" replaced by something prettier.  All I could get out of Bert
Roth, the director from back then was "don't ask," he was *still* tired of
the hassle after several years. All I could ever turn up was an arcane
reference to the method used to squash it.  Somehow the alumni set
conditions for playing the tune (I have no idea how this was enforced) - it
could only be played:
a) after the game was over;
b) if Rice won the game;
c) a petition was presented to the Student Association Senate and the
Senate  
   voted to have the band play the song if the first two conditions were
met.

I never could convince Bert to try again.  Too bad; for a borrowed tune, it
was a nice one...

bcnu - grungy (John Gladu) Rice U. MOBster
Systems Support Center -- Baylor College of Medicine
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc,rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
Subject: Re: I don't wanna post WGI here
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:26:18 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcrr.harvard.edu

In article <168BD7CEB.WHFELT01@UKCC.UKY.EDU> WHFELT01@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Bill Felty) writes:
;Sorry, I don't want to be difficult but I don't think it's fair for me to have
;to sort through 90, that's 90 posts on college bands this morning to get to
;the WGI posts in which I'm interested! Everyone keeps saying the WGI posts are
;few. Of course!!  Who want to wade though tons of stuff they don't care about
;to get to the things they do.  At least when I'm searching through DCI posts,
;it's related and I read them!!!!  And marching.misc posts outnumber the DCI
;list about 3 to 1.
; 
;I don't want to "wait it out" to see what happens.  In fact, I'm unsubscribing
;from the marching.misc list ASAP!  I'll continue to look at the drumcorps list
;and hope that other WGI folks find a welcome home there.
; 
;When alt.colorguard existed, low traffic or not, there was not this problem.
;Knowing all this, I wish I could go back and change my vote.  Until all this
;is corrected, I'll still feel that WGI got the shaft. Sorry, just being honest

I appreciate this problem.  I don't think any of us anticipated how much
traffic there would be devoted to college marching bands when this all started.
I should have realized it would be significant since >80% of the sites are
at colleges.

I'll restate my preference:  I think WGI has much more in common with drumcorps
than with college bands.  Even though we designed the misc group to include
colorguard, I would prefer to have WGI posts in r.a.m.drumcorps until such
time that a separate r.a.m.college gets created.  

There is another option of course - the KILL file.  Just add "band" to your
KILL file of r.a.m.misc and 90% of the band posts will be removed for you.

I think this needs some more discussion on r.a.m.misc and r.a.m.drumcorps.
Other opinions?

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: stanford@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Stanford)
Subject: cheerleaders: kill them or just disembowel?
Organization: none whatsoever
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 03:16:29 GMT

I just want to hear how people from other bands get along with their
cheerleading squads.  Just so you have some history:

The Stanford Band has a set of 5 "Dollies" that perform to our music.
They are treated as another section in the Band.  They are selected by
the Band on the basis of dancing ability and personality (judged in a
party we throw for applicants in the Band Shak).  They do NO
cheerleading, yell-leading, or stunts (besides the jumps/flips etc
that are involved in a musical dance).  Why?  Basically because the
students never wanted such a thing - it's sort of "un-Stanford" in
most people's eyes (most people came to Stanford BECAUSE it was unlike
other schools in such ways).

On the other hand there are the cheerleaders (the founders of which
were Dollie rejects by the way, but oops, I'm straying) who
theoretically lead cheers and do stunts, but do NOT dance.  Their
cheers are weak at best (they misspell "Stanford" on occasion) and the
students and alumni don't like them, but the Athletic Department does
(for whatever reason).  Recently we've had the problem of them doing
dance routines to our songs (which looks really poor next to the
Dollies' dances, which are entirely different), but hopefully that
will be fixed soon (click CLICK).  The cheerleaders, unlike the Band,
are unaccountable to anyone but the A.D. (where ALL their money comes
from).  We get a good chunk of our dough from the students via student
fees that have to be voted through every year.

Anyway, I was curious about relations between other bands and their
cheerleaders and dance squads (would color guards and flag patrols
and such fit in here?).  I know that the Cal student body is much like
the Stanford student body in a degree of apathy towards their
cheerleaders (correct me if I'm wrong, of course).  Howz about the
rest of you?

Just curious.
Scott

(By the way, if any Stanford yell-leaders are reading this, don't take
it personally, just die violently.  I don't speak for the Band here,
just myself.)
-- 
Scott Stanford                 |)  Eenie meenie miney moe.
stanford@leland.stanford.edu  /|   Catch a tiger by the toe.
                             ((|,) If he hollers...yeah whatEVER.
"MORE Doctah Peppah!!"        ~|~  He's EATIN' your ass.  Run, you idiot.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: stanford@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Stanford)
Subject: Re: Cheezeleaders
Keywords: (remember to post with distribution: usa)
Organization: none whatsoever
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 04:35:49 GMT

In article <rah rah...not> twomblyk@next01csc.wam.umd.edu (Kristian Twombly) writes:

>We also have control of them..In Pep Band, we always start some cheer that  
>*we* make up..The cheerleaders catch on, and do a little routine...THEN we  
>always yell (really LOUD) "LET'S GO!!!!"...Let's go!!! is actaully the  
>ending for 99% of ALL cheers...This ALWAYS causes them to stop...

One thing we've always done under our breath (and getting louder as we
care less and less whether or not we get blamed for their demise) is,
when they yell "GO!", respond with "AWAY!"

Scott
-- 
Scott Stanford                 |)  Eenie meenie miney moe.
stanford@leland.stanford.edu  /|   Catch a tiger by the toe.
                             ((|,) If he hollers...yeah whatEVER.
"MORE Doctah Peppah!!"        ~|~  He's EATIN' your ass.  Run, you idiot.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: hakari@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (The Conformist Contrabass Clarinetist)
Subject: Re: High School marching bands
Followup-To: Thor, my contrabass
Organization: ContraManiacs Anonymous
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:45:09 GMT





	Did anyone's high school band march with their bass clarinets?



--ContraManiac

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