From: 2261as@gmuvax2.gmu.edu ( )
Subject: Re: Can a human do this?
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:21:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.041116.18522@cs.cornell.edu> cwong@cs.cornell.edu (Christopher Yoong-Meng Wong) writes:
>Just got trashed by the computer again. Looks like I will never leave the
>ranks of "SF2 novice". Some questions:
>
>I-bet-you-can't-do-this department (with Chun Li)
>
>   One of my favorite moves is to jump in with the forward kick, repeatedly
>pressing the button. Upon landing, instant lightning kicks. One of my least
>favorite sights is the computer getting out of this. Frequently I would see 
>the kicks blasting away (a blue blur), only to see computer's Ryu/Ken DP
>his way out. THAT was not too bad. What pains me is seeing him THROW Chun Li
>out of her kicks. Mind you, the kicks were going right through the guy. Had
>the kicks connected, it would have been a 5-hit damage. Has any human 
>out there done what this machine did?
>
This is possible with Zangief, Guile, Ken, Dhalsim and EHonda.  I've
done
it with each one of them.  AND it's possible in SF2 Classic mind you.
Keep in mind, reversals are SO much easier in SF2:CE.
>What's-the-difference department (with Guile):
>
>   Is there a difference between Guile's fierce and his backhand (usually the
>result of a goofed sonic boom)?
>
One slight difference might be the fact that Sonic boom goes across the
screen and takes less time to recover, and you can duck a backfist, and
you don't bring your feet into the opponents' foot sweep range with 
a sonic, and you don't bring yourself so far into Zangief's pile
driving range with sonic (Horror Story:I stunned (computer) Zangief,
did the 3X fierce combo, tried to close with a backfist got 1/2-way
through the backfist -about to hit him and "HRRR!
WHOOSH WHOOSH WHOOSH THUD!").  Backfist requires no charge, backfist
is harder to accomplish at close range.  And Backfist looks a lot
different from a sonic boom.(backfist uses one arm, sonic uses both
arms crossed)  And backfist is usually only performed with FIERCE.
>Yes-you-can-do-this department (with anyone):
>
>   A computer-is-cheating thread went around recently, complaining that 
>the computer cheats by walking backwards with a fire-ball in the
>viscinity. Well, you could too if you started walking before the 
>fireball emerged. I did this, expecting the character to block when 
>computer Ryu's fireball arrived. Payed for my discovery with a fireball
>in the face.

After matching up against Ken's , other Guiles, Ryu's, Sagats and
probably
a Dhalsim (I sure am glad SOMEONE ELSE was turned into a wuss besides
Guile) I've never seen a person backing off from a missile.  From the
way you explain how it's done, a Guiler would be seen backing off
from a missile all the time.  When I'm backing up and the opponent
throws
a missile, My character assumes the defense stance.   I have seen the
computer back off from a missile and always wondered how a person could
do it.  Same deal with if Honda does his hands-slap and you want to
back off, all you do is block, but the computer can back off then jump
over
and kick.  I'm stuck having to jump back, move forward then
jump in.  Too time consuming.  Fortunately, almost everyone
around here knows that Honda still sucks so no one takes him.