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From: joseph@shogun.smos.com (Joseph Crunk)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: computer recomendations?
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:35:45 GMT


 
# > I was at 170fsw, unusually well narced, when the computer began
# > flashing at me.  I noticed the light and picked up the computer to
# > figure out what it was saying.  Now realize that I've got 200+ dives
# > with my Delphi, both no- and decompression diving, and have seen
# > almost every mode (except ERROR, thank goodness!) that it has in it,
# > AND I'm a computer geek to boot. 

# Yes, I seem to have lucked out on the unit that I have as well. It's a
# Pro, that's been on well over 150 dives at this point, many of them deep
# (the deepest was to *****CENSORED*****, and believe me, having those big
# digits and easy to read display makes a big difference when you're
# *_HEAVILY_* narc'd).

CAUTION! Your (mine, and everyone elses) computer is rated to a given depth
by the manufacturer. This depth is the deepest that computer is KNOWN to
function. Taking it below that depth may result in incorrect decompression
calculations as well as incorrect depth sensing. For this reason, depending
on a computer taken to *****CENSORED***** depth can be a really dangerous
thing to do. I'd use every caution when even approaching the rated depth.

Note: most computers are rated for a depth in excess of 130 fsw. I'd have to
look it up but I think the Delphi was rated to either 190 or 200 ft. In the
book 'Deep Diving' Gilliam notes that an Aladin accurately calculated the
depth in excess of 500 fsw, altho it's rated to 330 fsw. Your computer's
mileage may vary.

Also, there's no military, scientific, or commercial applications for diving
when you're *_HEAVILY_* narc'd. I'd be hard pressed to find a sports diving
application, other than pure entertainment :-) All-in-all, this kind of 
diving is a little to close to the edge for my comfort.

-Joseph Crunk
From: story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Delphi -> Phoenix Trade-Up Report
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:10:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <oio0ro4@fido.asd.sgi.com> leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.210304.4271@ultb.isc.rit.edu> mstacc@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.S. Tremblay) writes:
>>I have also been told about the new US Divers comp that is supposed to
>> be an air integrated Montitor II.  Any experience or input on this?
>>
>
>Sadly, the new USD computer (Scan 4) is *not* an air-integrated Monitor II.
>It has completely a completely different algorithm (the Monitor II is 
>Buhlman based - I don't remember what the Scan is).  It has some neat 
>features such as a nitrogen loading bar, actual ascent rate indicator, etc.

The "new" USD computer is a copy of the Oceanic DataMax PRO integrated
air computer, which uses a version of the DSAT/PADI RDP model.  It has
supposedly been extended to allow deeper and longer dives (which is
odd, because one of the major sticking points of algorithm designer
John Lewis is that deep repetitive dives are SO dangerous that sport
divers should be prevented from even trying them.)

>1. It *is* air integrated, which I don't care for (yet).  I discussed this
>   with Frank Barry, a San Jose area dive legend, and he pointed out that 
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
He'd be flattered, I'm sure.  How much diving is there in San Jose,
anyways?  ;-)

>   (like analog watches) an analog pressure gauge actually gives you a 
>   visual image of your air situation.  It's a *long* way from the 
>   red zone, it's *near* the red zone, it's *in* the red zone.  

The Phoenix has this feature: a bargraph as well as the numbers.

>2. You have to turn it on.  That sucks.

Yup.  I've forgotten to do this on my 'Dipper several times,
especially with it (as backup) tucked in my pocket.

>3. It toggles its display *during the dive* between remaining time (based on 
>   the minimum of air and N2 avaialability)/current depth  and 
>   time of the dive/max depth.   I don't want to look down at my computer
>   and have to think very much about what I'm looking at.  Especially if
>   I'm at 140' and not at my intellectual best.

This is one of the MOST irritating features of the Datamax
Sport/Sherwood Source & now the DataMax Pro.   It has really freaked
me out during a dive to glance down at the Datamax and see it
completely blank for a half-second!  Not what I want to see on day 3
of a live-aboard trip!

>I hope they continue building the Monitor.

Maybe they'll sell one without the damned beeping.

Cheers,

Dave Story                        NAUI AI Z9588, PADI DM 43922, EMT
story@bent.esd.sgi.com		  Better diving through computers.
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Article in Current _SCUBA Times_
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:54:11 GMT


In article <1992Aug21.124938.269@hou.amoco.com>, zwbm07@hou.amoco.com (Walter Moore) writes:
>In article 15229@odin.corp.sgi.com, mango@nova.esd.sgi.com (Eric Manghise) writes:
>>In article <BtB3Cv.HwJ@ais.org>, tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler) writes:
>>|> 
>>|>      Then I stared in disbelief at the line "I was pretty sure I
>>|> was the only person in the water that night for miles. I liked that
>>|> thought."
>>|> 
>>|>      I think the article is a clear demonstration that stupidity
>>|> (not to mention irresponsibility, for daring to condone the solo
>>|> night/cold-water/wreck/current dive in Scuba Today) isn't just a
>>|> sign of novice divers.  Marty's article shows that it can be a
>>|> symptom of anyone, regardless of dive equipment, qualifications, or
>
>I think Tim is out of order. As Eric states later, SOLO diving is a fact.
>Perhaps if the article does not state that solo diving is considered to be
>dangerous and is often frowned upon, THEN that would be something to flame 
>the magazine about. NOT that solo diving was covered.
>
>>
>>	People are solo climbing mountains, kayaking down class IV and V
>>	rivers, jumping out of airplanes, jumping off 400 ft high towers
>>	with bungy cords attached to them, racing cars around tracks at
>>	200mph+, skiing off cornices, are these people stupid. 
>>	
>>	It sounds like you have been totally indoctrinated into the world
>>	of PADI which preaches never dive without a buddy, which is not
>>	bad advice. 
>
>Many/most/all of the certifiying agencies suggest that one always have a 
>buddy to go diving, but I'm not sure if any agency attempts to mandate it.
>Of course, I could be wrong, as I believe PADI attempts to mandate that 
>graduates of their OWI course can only dive to 60 ft or less.

My first dive after being certified was to 95 fsw in Cozumel (Santa Rosa Wall). 
And it stood as my deepest dive for some time to come!

Solo diving is more real than most people think.  Most instructors, AIs, DMs do
some solo diving while working classes.  If I'm the missing buddy in a rescue
class, I might lay there for 10 minutes.  The "leader" will always wind up with
no buddy and two students that are still not dependable.

But solo is NOT for everybody.  Like deep, or cave diving, training, lots
of dive experience and a different attitude are required.
>
--
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From: craig@cattnts.canada.ncr.com (Craig Campbell)
Subject: Re: Delphi -> Phoenix Trade-Up Report
Organization: AT&T / NCR Canada Ltd., Toronto, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:32:24 GMT

In article <oip6t04@twilight.wpd.sgi.com> story@sgi.com (David (Duis) Story) writes:

>I was at 170fsw, unusually well narced, when the computer began
>flashing at me.  I noticed the light and picked up the computer to
>figure out what it was saying.  Now realize that I've got 200+ dives
>with my Delphi, both no- and decompression diving, and have seen
>almost every mode (except ERROR, thank goodness!) that it has in it,
>AND I'm a computer geek to boot. 

>Yet SEVERAL minutes later, still at 170fsw, I STILL had not figured it
>out.  The top light was flashing, but all the numbers looked normal,
>and my backup analog gauges looked OK.  By now, I had completely
>forgotten why I was at that depth, how long I had planned to be down,
>where my buddy was, etc. -- all because of this totally unexpected
>twist for which my mind was not prepared.

So what did the flashing light mean?  Almost not enough air to finish dive?

>Cheers,

>Dave Story                        NAUI AI Z9588, PADI DM 43922, EMT

craig
-- 
Craig Campbell		|	These opinions are entirely the result of a 
Systems Engineer	|	small butterfly crashing into the far side
NCR Canada,		|	of the planet.  Chaos Rules.
an AT&T Company		|	I speak for no one, except, possibly, myself.
From: carmanr@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Carman Robert (picro))
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: white raptor ID needed - Lake Tahoe
Summary: You may have the answer
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:48:10 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Bill Trumble asks for an ID of a redtail-sized white raptor seen near
Lake Tahoe. For several years now we have had regular reports and sightings
of an all-white redtail just up the road from here (Easton, Pa.). It
frequents the margins of a major highway and has been seen by many competent
spotters, including me. (We're not far from Hawk Mountain and Bake Oven
knob, so there are lots of raptor specialists among the local birding crowd.)
This is the only one I have ever seen, but I have been told that all-white
or mostly white redtails are regularly recorded all over the country. Whether
they are true albinos or products of some particular morph, I do not know; someone else may have information on that subject. But as one guess on the identity
of this bird, how about a white redtail?
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From: mike@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Mike W. Burger)
Subject: Plover is back
Organization: University of Hawaii at Manoa
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:15:13 GMT


	Since May I have been checking every morning and evening on my
way to work for a particular Pacific Golden Plover that has a territory
along my route.  He returned over the weekend.  He is quite slim.  He
has a ragged small patch of black feathers on his chest and a sprinkling
of golden feathers mixed into his back, but the overall effect is
washed out and greyed.  His patterning really looks "windblown".  He
was actively feeding.  I do not think they served diner on his flight :-)
	His mound had been occupied by three pairs of Myna birds and
a number of Zebra Doves, but he had the mound to himself this morning
except for one Zebra Dove who was keeping well away.  The Plover did
not seem to want to waste the energy chasing him away.

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From: rsl@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (randolph.little)
Subject: Peterson CD Northern Oriole
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:59:01 GMT


On July 23, Terry S. Collins posted an inquiry regarding the song of the
Northern Oriole on the Peterson Field Guides Eastern/Central Bird Songs.

I replied with information obtained from conversation with Greg Budney,
Curator of the Library of Natural Sounds at the Cornell Laboratory of
Ornithology, confirming the identification.

I have finally had a chance to listen to the recording myself, and want to
add a few observations.

First, indeed it is a Northern Oriole song, based on personal knowledge of
bird sounds of North America and 17 years of recording bird sounds in Ohio
in particular (that was an Ohio recording, BTW).

Second, indeed it is "unusual" in the sense that it is a quasi-continuous
song which is rendered primarily at the very beginning of the breeding
season when territories are first being established, and is even then
restricted to situations where two or more males are actively disputing
a piece of territory.  Such disputes typically are resolved quickly,
whereupon the birds revert to a much shorter song that is the "usual" song.

Third, although the non-stop delivery is not stereotypic, the quality of
individual notes is unmistakeably Northern Oriole.  The clear whistled
notes have an explosive quality, in that each note bursts forth to full
volume quite abruptly, characteristic of Northern Oriole.  The other notes,
including the catbird-like mews, are not so uniquely diagnostic, but when
taken in combination are quite indicative of Northern Oriole.

Fourth, I would totally agree that, given the very limited space for each
species, a more commonly rendered version of the song would have raised
fewer eyebrows and probably been better for publication.  (For those who
really know the full repertoire, however, the chosen song represents the
virtuoso selection.)

Finally, I apologize for taking so long to post this reply -- the original
article has already expired from our news server!

Good birding and good listening,                      -- Randy

Randolph S. Little <rsl@bonasa.att.com>
From: fauvel@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Sylvain Fauvel)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Bat conservation international
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:01:26 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Few persons requested that i posted this.
Here is the address.  Thank to Paula Ford (pxf3@psuvm.psu.edu)

Bat Conservation International
PO Box 162603
Austin TX 78716

Phone: (512) 327-9721



Bat conservation international has been involved with bats
protection for several years.  They used to seel bat houses,
baty houses plans, books on bats and few other thing.

					Sylvain Fauvel
From: mbehrens@aunext3.amd.com (mikael behrens x54752)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: re: bird son ID in Ohio
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:36:55 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

>bird calls I didn't know. There is one bird call which I hear in my
>backyard, a somewhat wooded area, that isn't covered in the tapes.
>It sounds like someone whistling "yoo hoo" with a high short squeak
>in between the two tones. The tones are approximately a minor
>third apart. It repeats the same yoo-sqeak-hoo over and over. Anybody
>have a guess what bird it is?

I'd think it was a Black-capped chicadee rather than a Carolina chicadee.
The black-capped has a two-note song where as the Carolina has a four-note  
song.  And the black-capped is the Carolina's northern replacement species.

Mikael
From: Joe.Morlan@f501.n914.z8.rbbs-net.ORG (Joe Morlan)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: white raptor ID needed -
Date: 15 Aug 92 16:20:00 GMT


       ***** On 08-14-1992, Bill Trumble wrote to All *****

BT> It was on Wednesday, Aug.  5 in the early afternoon.  I was on
BT> the cable tram at South Lake Tahoe, on my way down from the
BT> Heavenly Valley.  I noticed a medium-size raptor perched
BT> upright at the top of a conifer about 20 yards or so away.
BT> My first view of it was from the side, and I had a front
BT> view of it as the tram continued downslope.  It appeared to
BT> be completely white with a faint creamy tinge especially on
BT> the tail which extended below the branch on which it
BT> perched.  Its eyes and beak appeared dark.  Size hard to judge
BT> - maybe up to red-tail hawk size.

I received a report from a Jeri Arko (sp?) on Aug. 8th  claiming
she had seen an albino Golden Eagle at Heavenly Valley at Lake
Tahoe.  Her messages did not give the date she saw the bird.
Anyway, I'll bet you saw the same bird.  She said the bird she
saw was the same size as a normal Golden Eagle nearby, but I
wander if her size judgment wasn't off or if the normal Golden
Eagle wasn't actually just a Red-tail.  I have seen partial
albino Red-tailed Hawks before.  Could that have been what you
saw?

--Joe Morlan, Albany, CA
Joe.Morlan@f28.n125.z1.fidonet.org.

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From: wvenable@algona.stats.adelaide.edu.au (Bill Venables)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Possible Blk-Shouldered Kite?
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:20:39 GMT
Organization: Department of Statistics, University of Adelaide
In-reply-to: HYD@psuvm.psu.edu's message of 18 Aug 92 15:46:15 GMT


>>>>> "Paul" == HYD  <HYD@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

Paul> While on vacation in Eastern Wyoming, earlier this August, I had an unusual
Paul> sighting. The bird was a medium to small sized raptor with long thin wings, a
Paul> slight body and an elongate tail. In addition, it was over-all white in color
Paul> with black carpal patches on the underside of the wings. As far as I know the
Paul> only raptor which fits this description is the Black Shouldered Kite....

As a curious footnote, there is an Australian Black Shouldered Kite that
fits this description perfectly.  This is not a international species, like
the peregrine falcon and the osprey, is it?

Bill.

--
___________________________________________________________________________
Bill Venables, Dept. of Statistics, | Email: venables@stats.adelaide.edu.au
Univ. of Adelaide, South Australia. | Tel: +61 8 228 5412  Fax: ...232 5670
Newsgroups: rec.birds
From: andrewt@watson.ibm.com (Andrew Taylor)
Subject: Re: DEET
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:06:17 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <BsxvEu.7Cw@zoo.toronto.edu> rising@zoo.toronto.edu (Jim Rising)
writes:
>Incidentally, Andrew.  How does one discourage those
>little black flys of Queensland and the Northern Territories?  DEET
>didn't seem to do any good.  They don't bite, just drive you nuts!

You don't discourage them, you just get used to them! Two suggestions:
Only disturb them when they land on your face. Eventually you will have
only a few near your face and hundreds on your back where where they are much
less annoying.  Also if a bush-fly flies into your mouth it is much more
pleasant to swallow it quickly rather than to attempt to spit it out.

Also, as Liz Johnson points out, I should have mentioned DEET may damage
clothing made from synthetic materials. I've put it on cotton shirts
and denim jeans without problems. (Yes, I was getting mosquito bites through
denim jeans!).

Andrew Taylor
From: wvenable@algona.stats.adelaide.edu.au (Bill Venables)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: Why do birds ... -- The dawn chorus
Date: 22 Aug 92 02:09:41 GMT
Organization: Department of Statistics, University of Adelaide
In-reply-to: yozzo@watson.ibm.com's message of 20 Aug 92 15:12:26 GMT

>>>>> "Ralph" == Ralph Yozzo <yozzo@watson.ibm.com> writes: 

Ralph>  Why do birds make an especially loud clatter when the sun rises?  I
Ralph>  notice that around 5am or when the sun rises the birds seem to be
Ralph>  louder than usual.  Is this just my imagination or is it true?

Ralph>  And if true, why is it so?

Yes they do.  I have always thought it was to proclaim and advertise their
territories at the start of a new day, which is often the time of peak
feeding.

When I go camping in the rainforest this is always a big highlight for me.
In both the temperate and tropical rainforests here in Australia the noise
is deafening from about 5.00 am onwards.  Not the place for late risers!
--
___________________________________________________________________________
Bill Venables, Dept. of Statistics, | Email: venables@stats.adelaide.edu.au
Univ. of Adelaide, South Australia. | Tel: +61 8 228 5412  Fax: ...232 5670
From: am229@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terry S. Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: bird song in my backyard
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:43:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Aug19.114307.17443
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


How bout a chickadee???
Newsgroups: rec.birds
From: john@nmt.edu (John Shipman)
Subject: Re: More on hummingbird behavior
Summary: The day I gave a hummer a bath
Keywords: hummingbirds,behavior,bathing,feeders
Organization: Zoological Data Processing
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:39:45 GMT

One day I was hand-watering in my back yard using my thumb
on the open end of the hose.  At one point I was watering
some tender young sprouts so I made the water into a fan of
very fine mist.  A hummer came and perched in this mist.
The bird assumed a highly unusual posture while bathing,
partially fanning its wings and tail so all its flight
surfaces were formed into one big triangle, like a
delta-winged airplane.  I felt very nervous, as well as
awed, because with the slightest change in the position of
my thumb I could knock the bird across the yard.  The little
living jewel wriggled in the spray for a minute or so and
then flew away.

I wonder how hummers bathe in the absence of unnatural
artifices like hoses and sprinklers.  I see a lot of birds
apparently bathing in rain, but in a real downpour I can't
imagine a hummer using this method.  I also doubt that a
hummer would bathe in standing water.
-- 
John Shipman/Zoological Data Processing/Socorro, NM/john@jupiter.nmt.edu
``Let's go outside and commiserate with nature.''  --Dave Farber
Newsgroups: rec.birds
From: vivek@ee.princeton.edu (Vivek Tiwari)
Subject: Visiting India ?
Reply-To: vivek@ee.princeton.edu
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:55:44 GMT

Hi!
    Thanks to everyone who responded to my earlier post. By the way if anyone
is planning to go to India in the near future, do contact me. The Indian 
subcontinent has an extremly large no. of bird species and an amazing diversity.
And some really spectacular birds are fairly commonplace. I was thinking of
writing a small piece from my personal knowledge and experiences about Indian
birds. Would it be a good idea to post it here?

 Ameet, if you are reading this, I got your email today but it came without any
sender email address, just MAILER-DAEMON@apple.com. Do send me you complete
email address and/or phone number.

Vivek
From: carmanr@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Carman Robert (picro))
Newsgroups: rec.birds
Subject: Re: More on hummingbird behavior
Summary: Where are mine?
Keywords: hummingbirds,behavior,bathing,feeders
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:52:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Lehigh University


In the matter of hummingbirds: why do none visit my feeder?

I have one of the egg-shaped plastic feeders hanging about at eye level,
suspended from a tree about five feet from the kitchen window. It is
above a flower bed containing red impatiens and red salvia, to which
I have added a few yellow touch-me-nots (wild--we don't seem to have the
orange kind around here). I fill the feeder with a 4:1 sugar mixture
and change it weekly. *Very,**very** occasionally, during the late
summer, I may see a hummer around the red flowers, but after four seasons
of trying I have yet to see one anywhere near the feeder. (I do not color
the nectar, but the liquid is held in a red plastic reservoir.)

What am I doing wrong, not doing, or what should I try? Advice from 
hummer experts gratefully received. 
 
  
n
the nectar, but the liquid is held in
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