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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: Rutgers/Independence Bowl/UVa question
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:23:19 GMT

In article <BxvC3u.1wq@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.021237.31913@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> tshannon@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon) writes:
> >From article <1992Nov16.201459.15552@walter.bellcore.com>, by kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge):
> >> With Rutgers' (6-4) win over WVU this past weekend and their matchup this
> >> coming weekend against Temple (1-9), they have a great shot a 7-4 record
> >> and a possible Independence Bowl bid.
> >> 
> >> Does anyone know the other teams being considered for the Independence Bowl 
> >> as well?  
> >
> >	I would say one of the other Big Ten teams.  Either 
> >Iowa, Wisconsin, or maybe even Illinois could sneak in if they
> >have teh 6 wins.
> 
> 	Well, since Wake Forest accepted half of the Independence Bowl
> 	either late yesterday or this morning, then maybe the Big Ten
> 	will have to hope that Rutgers loses to Temple.  Highly unlikely,
> 	I'd say...
> 

During a halftime interview at Rutgers Stadium, a representative of the IB
stated they were looking for a "regional representative" and someone from
the ACC or Big East.  Sounds like Wake Forest is not the
"regional representative."  And Rutgers at Temple is not a gimme.  A couple
years ago Temple got its only win of the year in the season finale against
dear old Rutgers.  Temple then went 7-4 the next year.

> -- 
> -------------------------------
> | Randy Peppler               |
> | Illinois State Water Survey |
> | peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |


-- 
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From: alc@netcom.com (Chris Stassen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: CFPOOL: Week #11 Results
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:24:01 GMT
Reply-To: stassen@alc.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Lion's Den, San Jose

Earlier today I posted the Week #11 results.  The top section, scores
sorted by week is correct.  The bottom section, year-total scores with
two weeks dropped is not.  I'll post a corrected version once I get
the scoring software fixed.
-- 
Chris Stassen						stassen@alc.com
DISCLAIMER:  My employer's account, but not their opinions.
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From: zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael E. Dupree)
Subject: Re: Does tie cost OU shot at Oranges?
Originator: zmed0b@zircon
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:43:39 GMT


In article <1992Nov16.164041.21183@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, murphy@rock.enet.dec.com writes:
> 
> I am now wondering.  Does the tie have the effect of costing OU the
> Orange Bowl if they beat NEB.  I think beating OSU and NU puts OU and CU
> at 5-1-1 each, who would have received the berth?
> 
> Murph

OU didn't beat OSU. They tied them.  OU is 3-1-2 in the Big Eight.  Unless 
Nebraska loses 2 and Colorado loses 1, OU has no chance.  It would be a sad
statement about the Big 8 if they did go.  Their record would be 6-3-2.
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From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: Fight songs
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:18:32 GMT

Hmmm...I don't think I've seen this posted, so here goes (I lost the
original poster's e-mail address -- hopefully he'll read this. :-):

Sung to the tune of "Fight on for California"

"The Dirty Golden Bear"
The dirty Golden Bear
Is losing all his hair
His teeth are out, he's got the gout
He knows not what it's all about
His eyes are made of glass
He's losing all his class
So take the dirty Golden Bear and shove him up your...

Well, you get the idea.
The second verse gets a bit worse -- if you are dying to see it,
e-mail me. :-)

Later,
Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu

SIX MORE YEARS!!!!

Florida or Arizona, here we come...
From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: TEXAS aTm - got screwed
Date: 20 Nov 1992 18:11:20 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: custard.think.com

|> > In article <1992Nov19.215031.11822@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson) writes...
|> > >In article <1992Nov18.192151.9245@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> wingfiel@lonestar.utsa.edu (Kevin J. Wingfield) writes:
|> > > 
|> > >>        After all, the Aggies topped
|> > >>        Stanford, which blitzed Notre Dame, by the way who put
|> > >>        a tie on the unblemished record of Michigan.  The Ags, also
|> > >>        defeated Houston handidly, which manhandled Illinois,
|> > >>        who also tied Michigan and who also ripped Ohio State ---
|> > >>        the top two teams in the Big Ten.
|> > > 
|> > >Yea, Illinois beat Ohio State, who beat Syracuse, who beat Texas, who beat
|> > >everyone else in the SWC (and will beat A&M). 

To put this *stuff* in perspective:

 Minnesota beat Illinois, who beat Ohio State, who beat Syracuse, who beat Texas, 
who will beat A&M, who beat Stanford, who beat Notre Dame, who tied Michigan, who
tied Illinois.

Therefore at 1-9, Minnesota should be in the Rose bowl vs Oregon.

 Who beat Arizona, who beat Washington, who......

-Tom

Go Gophs, Beat the Ducks...!

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From: e128-al@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Class Account)
Subject: Stanford Players
Summary: Mike Cook, Steve Stenstrom
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:30:38 GMT

On the eve of the 95th Big Game, I thought it would be a good time to ask a
question about two of the Cardinal's players.

Does anyone know what from which high school Steve Stenstrom graduated? Is
he from El Toro? Also, is Mike Cook from Fountain Valley HS, where he was
All-CIF in 1989? I went to the same junior high as that guy, but he seemed
more interested in basketball then.

I don't have any real hopes for a miracle tomorrow.  The way the season has
gone, we'll probably be blown out by 20+.  But then those are the kinds of
remarks that come back to haunt.  Could this be a repeat of 1986? I do
believe, like '86, this will (or at least should) be the end of Keith
Gilbertson.  Apologies to all other Blues, new and old.  The Golden Bears
have broken my heart too many times.

Please email any responses (about the question about the Stanford players)
as I don't read this group often.  Thanks in advance.

*****************************************************************************
    Albert Chi                      THE University of California
    e128-al@bard.berkeley.edu      Toliet Bowl for the Bears!
*****************************************************************************
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From: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com (John Phillips)
Subject: Re: Miami - Syracuse
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:01:49 GMT
Reply-To: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

>Louis writes:

>....... If Graves did not got trashed at the end
>of the 4th quarter (and if the Orangemen used the clock wisely), well, luck
>will not keep Miami from losing..

Yes and if Syracuse had not been playing Miami, Graves would not have been hit
hard enough to be groggy or have been sacked twice in the final seconds or had
his reciever hit and dropped on the last play. In fact, if they had not been 
playing Miami, I believe they would have won the game!

J.P.
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From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: Miami - Syracuse
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 04:29:22 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Nov22.013813.2363@news.nd.edu> rszczerb@mauchly.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>My heart just broke watching the end of the
>Syracuse - Miami game ... they were just
>4 yards short of the winning TD.  People
>always say that the great teams always find
>a way to win, but Miami has been getting
>way too luck this season.
>
>		- rob
>
>


Well, although I hate Miami to death, I think Miami is heck of a team.
A long time ago I've pointed out that Miami may not be the best team in the
nation, but always find a way to win every big games.  I'd think it takes more
than luck to do so, but luck does stand at Miami's sideline most of the time.

So the case is rested (although I'd puke at that): Miami should be *ranked* #1.

Syracuse played impressively today.  If Graves did not got trashed at the end
of the 4th quarter (and if the Orangemen used the clock wisely), well, luck
will not keep Miami from losing...

4 yards!  Ack!  I've alomost fell down from my seat!


- Louis
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Subject: Re: Nebraska-->Fiesta,CU-->Orange
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:31:44 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Nov19.200318.729@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson) writes:
>You bet we are. But we are also not whineing or making any excuses. We got
>beat! Now lets kick OU's but and, once again, destroy any CU hopes of a REAL
>bowl. (Hey, I live in Colorado, I KNOW what they are thinking. The newscast
>after CU beat KU was not "CU gets big win over KU". It was "CU has renewed
>chance for the Orange Bowl"). The problem from the CU standpoint once again
>is that this is not in their hands. They can only watch and swear at the tv
>as NU comes thru!!!
>
Not to be nit picky, but NU still has to beat K-State in Tokyo.
I really don't give K-State that much of a chance(where as I 
thought ISU had a chance, real slim one).  And I haven't heard
that the NU-KSU game is on tv.
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:39:17 EST
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Marsee Computer Rankings & Predictions for 11/21/92
Distribution: usa

Let's see--

Nebraska loses to IOWA STATE!!! and they're still ranked #2?!?

Michigan ties yet again to Illinois and they're #4?!?

I'm not even going to start bitching about Alabama at #7.


Methinks your algorithm bumped its head on something.


Jim Thomas
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Penn State Should Withdraw
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:37:19 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <BxxH3B.Aw7@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, wlay@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Radio 90.1 FM WLAY Tarkington Hall) writes:
> In article <92322.155336MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu> MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu (Spiro the Spiny Goldfish) writes:
>>
>>>Let's see, PSU talks the Lackluster Bowl into offering them a bid BEFORE
>>>the season even starts.  Then those brave Paternoes play the rough and
>>>tumble schedule which includes Cincinnati, Temple, Eastern Michigan,
>>>Maryland, and Rutgers.  Their record is now 6-4, they're out of the top
>>>25.
>> (The Blockbuster was hoping to score a coup
>>and get a better team than they could normally expect, but c'est la vie.)
>>----
> Do keep in mind that when this bowl alliance that was to be the end of all
> problems with bowl matchups was created, Penn State was not included, and
> neither was the Blockbuster Bowl.  Penn State was trying to assure themselves
> of going to a decent bowl game (which the Blockbuster has been in its first 2
> years) and the Blockbuster was trying to assure itself of having a decent 
> team (this year's PSU team isn't exactly what they had in mind, but can be 
> a fairly good draw on their name alone, kinda like ND in the Sugar last year!)
> 
> Both parties did what they had to do after being hung out to dry by the 
> powers that be.

	What's ironic about the situation is that the Blockbuster Bowl
benefited by the orgy of early bids last year, when PSU and (forgot the other
team) were passed over by the "big" bowls.  Blockbuster ended up with two 9-2
teams for one of the better bowl matchups as other bowls watched their early
singers start losing 2-3 games in a row (like Virginia).

Brett
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From: weyland@sn.jsc.nasa.gov (WEYLAND,MARK)
Subject: A&M beats TCU...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
Date: 18 Nov 1992 18:28 CST  

OK, lets say A&M beats TCU this saturday by at least... oh say 30 pts.  

What kind of chance is there that the AGS will overtake the semen holes in 
the AP poll?  Will Lee continue his campaign or have a change in heart 
after a few near death experiences in College Station??

However, I suppose this doesn't matter unless Bama or Miami loses.  We 
would still play fsu in the CB.  I would love an A&M MNC, but a 
rematch with fsu might be fun too.  Just to shut them up.  (they, 
r.s.f.c fsu, sure do talk a lot of shit)

GIG'EM  AGS!!!

Mark Weyland
Texas A&M University - Class of '88
From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Some Thoughts...
Date: 16 Nov 1992 19:39:04 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunkj.larc.nasa.gov
Keywords: Go (c)Hokies!

Thought I was going to talk about Va Tech's classic 
4th quarter choke (tm)?  wrong!

What a weird season.  Here are some observations:

team from nowhere:  Arizona

turnaround from last year: Southern Cal

Best Mid-Season Turn around:  South Carolina

turnaround, maybe doing a 360:  Boston College
                                Washington State

Slowly turning around:  Auburn, SMU

Citrus Bowl teams not bowling this year: Clemson and Cal

Quietly turning around from last year:  Michigan State

My (pre-season) pick for a team much better than people 
  thought: Akron

Same pick that didn't really turn out:  Cincinatti 

Teams to dissapoint ACC fans:  UVa, Ga Tech, Clemson

Where did they come from ACC teams: Wake Forest and UNC

How the mighty have fallen:  LSU, Pitt, UCLA

"Bob told me they were good, but he lied" team:  Rutgers

Teams that were ranked but shouldn't have been: Tenn, PSU

Teams that stand a decent chance to win their "rival" game
(and haven't done so in a while)
Washington State, Ohio State, South Carolina, Texas
Auburn, Southern Cal, Pitt (?), Va Tech (had to get that in)

Michael Nelson



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From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: Possible #1 vs. #2 matchup in major bowl games.
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:23:39 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Nov23.175838.10659@cs.ucf.edu> tech@maitland.cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:

| In article <1992Nov16.165239.12725@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> costley@solo.eng.hou.compaq.com (Brett Costley) writes:
| >In article <1992Nov16.152624.10084@ods.com> scott@ods.com (Scott Harper) writes:
| >>Alireza Vali (reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu) wrote:
| >>: Scenario 4: MNC decided in the Fiesta Bowl.
| >>: 
| >>: #1 Miami (11-0) vs. #2 Florida State (10-1)
| >>: 
| >>: This one will be possible if, again, Alabama loses, and Michigan is
| >>: tripped up by Ohio State.  A loss or poor showing by A&M will let FSU
| >>: jump over them to #2.  I would **LOVE** to see this rematch, and I'm
| >>: sure it will be an incredible game.
| >>
| >>Well, this all of a sudden is a very real possibility... 2 of the 3 'ifs'
| >>cited above have happened...  (UM tied by Illinois, FSU jumps A&M)
| >>
| >>My question is: 
| >>
| >>Why in the world would Miami play FSU again?  They already beat them.
| 
| No the question is; why is everyone looking past the gators here. FSU
| has to play them saturday and they are NEVER pushovers. I think we
| 'Nole fans might want to keep this rematch stuff cool until next week.

Steve Spurrer is talking like he can't beat both FSU and Bama.  Spurs
wants to win the SEC, so he gave the gators two days off this week to
rest.  Looks like the famous Gator Flop play.

If FSU blows out Florida and they play Bama close, FSU could leap over Bama
in the AP polls.  

Let's Party FSU, get some gator tail this week for us Canes.
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: This Week's Predictions...
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:35:31 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
Nntp-Posting-User: desert


		Arizona		31	ASU		18
		Arkansas	27	SMU		17
		Baylor		26	Texas		24
		Boston College	31	Army		13
		BYU		30	Utah		21
		California	28	Stanford	26
		Cincinnati	24	Akron		20
		Clemson		26	South Carolina	14
		Colorado	31	Iowa State	17
		Florida		28	Vanderbilt	20
		Hawaii		27	Wyoming		23
		Illinois	22	Michigan St.	21
		Iowa		30	Minnesota	27
		Kansas		29	Missouri	19
		LSU		26	Tulane		17
		Memphis State	34	East Carolina	21
		Miami		25	Syracuse	22
		Michigan	28	Ohio State	24
		Nevada-Los V.	23	Montana State	19
		Nevada-Reno	33	Texas Southern	13
		New Mexico	25	Colorado State	24
		North Carolina	23	Duke		21
		NCST		28	Wake Forest	14
		N. Illinois	24	Toledo		23
		Oklahoma State	25	Kansas State	21
		Oregon		35	Oregon State	14
		Penn State	38	Pittsburgh	10
		Purdue		31	Indiana		27
		Rice		36	Navy		14
		Rutgers		29	Temple		13
		San Diego St.	27	Fresno State	25
		San Jose St.	33	New Mexico St.	17
		USC		27	UCLA		15
		SW Louisiana	28	Arkansas State	13
		Tennessee	34	Kentucky	13
		Texas A&M	34	TCU		10
		Texas Tech	29	Houston		27
		Utah State	21	Pacific		19
		Virginia	23	Virginia Tech	22
		Washington	31	Washington St.	17
		West Virginia	29	Louisiana Tech	14
		Wisconsin	26	Northwestern	24


D Man...
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From: clarko@liszt.berkeley.edu (Clark Olson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Holiday Bowl (Illinois or MSU)
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:08:49 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: liszt.berkeley.edu

In article <steph.722125364@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu> steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson) writes:
 
>According to the Tribune, Wisconsin is the #2 Freedom bowl choice, behind
>Utah.  Utah would have to beat BYU to go, which only happens in years
>ending with '8'.  :->  So the Big 10 could send five teams this year.

The worst thing about this travesty is that Iowa signing with the Copper
Bowl likely took away any chance Washington State (currently 7-3) has of
going to a bowl game.

It looks like one of the worst conferences (Big-10) will have at least as
many bowl teams (4 maybe 5) as the best (Pac-10) which will now have only
Washington, USC, Arizona, and Stanford in bowl games.

Clark Olson
clarko@robotics.berkeley.edu
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From: rhett@utkvx2.utk.edu (Fitzsimmons, Marc)
Subject: Re: SEC What if?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:03:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.200751.19448@infonode.ingr.com>, ellingrw@infonode.ingr.com (Bob Ellington) writes...
>In article <17NOV199215571104@utkvx2.utk.edu> rhett@utkvx2.utk.edu (Fitzsimmons, Marc) writes:
>>If Florida had lost Saturday to South carolina, Tennessee and Florida would be
>>tied for second place. So Ut gets the bid from the head to head win. But could
>>they refuse the offered bowl for the Hall of Fame in Tampa? or would they have
>>to goto the contracted conference bowl?
>>
> 
>Excuse me Marc, but what "bid" are you talking about?  Being tied for
>second (are being second alone) in the SEC East doesn't give an
>automatic bid to any bowl.  Beyond that, Tennessee can accept or decline
>any "at large" bid that is offered to them.  
> 
>Now, "IF" Florida had lost and Georgia had lost, Tennesse would then
>get a rematch with Alabama in the SEC Championship game.  But alas, it
>was not meant to be.  Florida could still lose to Vandy this week and
>put Georgia in the "Game".  
> 
>Bob E.
> 
Bob,
 Last time i checked the new bowl alliance had an automatic bid for the higher
ranked team of the runner ups in each division of the SEC. So probably it would
goto the eastern division (if it exist i think it did). And I was wondering if
it was a contracted bid with the SEC. I can't recall which bowl it is. But I
understood the SEC would automatically place three teams in bowls if they met
some stipulations about rankings. Does anyone know for sure
If so give me an E-mail.

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From: zcjm0f@wwnva.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: Penn State Should Withdraw
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:42:57 GMT


>
>How many Maryland LB's are in the NFL?  Compare to the number of Lions!
>
>
>John L

ok, tell me, how many Lion LB's are there in the NFL right now?
(curious aggie question)

cmuck
From: JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: a brief quiz
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:41:25 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov22.1539.17832@execnet>, al.sorhaindo@execnet.com (al
sorhaindo) says:
>
>How many coaches have met all of the below criteria?
>
>1) Greater than a %66 success rate in bowl games.?
>
>2) Around a %90 record versus in state rivals at their current school?
>
>3) At least five wins in Major Bowls (Cotton, Sugar, Rose, Orange or Sugar).?
>
>4) 200+ career wins.?
>
>5) A MNC?
>
>6) *Routed* Miami in a bowl game?
>
>7) Their school refuses to extent their contract?
>
>Answer:  Johnny Majors


Well, I suppose I can take some comfort in that between Tennessee and
Ohio State, Alabama's treatment of Bill Curry seems mild by comparison.

From what I understand, Majors got major-league screwed.  Apparently
after the 3-0 start Bill Fulmer told Majors that if Fulmer were offered
a head coaching job it was his [Fulmer's] intention to take the entire
Tennessee coaching staff with him.  That seems to be the final straw.

>If Majors can be forced out, then no coach is safe. A short list of
>coaches that would not measure up to the University of Tennesee
>administration's standards.
>
>1) Bobby Bowden - A great bowl record, but no MNC, and a questionable
>   record versus in state rivals.
>
>2) Tom Osborne -  A pathetic bowl record, no MNC, and a mediocre record
>                  versus Oklahoma.
>
>3) Terry Donahue - A great bowl record, but no MNC, and lost to Tenn 30-16
>                   last year.
>
>4) "Bo"          - A miserable bowl record, no MNC, and a non winning record
>                   versus Ohio State. (As an Ohio State fan I do not count
>                   Bo's two victories against John Cooper)

Pat Dye may be available as well . . .

Jim Thomas
Penn State
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