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From: dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892)
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Organization: NASA GSFC CDP VLBI
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:57:10 GMT

In article <5977@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
>From article <1992Sep29.185731.23274@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, by gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart):
>> I'm pretty sure you're right.  But Tyrell says Rachel is "special".
                                                             ^^^^^^^

Actually, I think he describes her as an 'experiment, nothing more'
rather than saying she is 'special.'

>> And the reason for the "four-year safeguard" is said to be the
>> fact that the strong, non-implanted replicants are dangerous.
>> Then there's Tyrell's reasoning for the short lifespan.
>

To be clear, the reasoning for the four year lifespan, was protection
in case the Nexus 6 developing sufficient emotional awareness that
they could no longer be distinguished from humans using the VK test.
It they successfully infiltrated society, they would soon die anyway.

>
>Your reasoning is sound, especially since it is not apparent that
>Rachel does share the Nexus-6 superpowers.  Still, since Rachel is
>experimental, keeping the four-year limit, just in case, could be a
>wise move.  Then again, it would keep them from studying long-term
>effects.
>--
From: dmf@aber.ac.uk (Darren Michael Forbes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Blade Runner
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:13:31 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <abotha.717748985@bilbo> abotha@bilbo.cs.uct.ac.za (A S Botha) writes:
>A couple of points regarding Blade Runner:
>
  [First three points deleted]
>
>4) Deckard finding the origami unicorn was supposed to be the end of the film,
>with the implication that Gaff has retired Rachel, who is AWOL from Tyrell and
>therefore no longer under their protection and therefore fair game. There is a
>bounty paid for each retired replicant, something Gaff would not be adverse to
>collecting, especially as there is little danger to him, Rachel is not a 
>combat model.

Deckard finds the unicorn after Rachel had knocked it over with her foot.
They are leaving Deckards apartment together and she is quite alive so the
unicorn could not mean what you claim.  The film was (is) supposed to end
with them both together and the lift door closing.

    "It's too bad she won't live; but then again who does?"

-Darren

-- 
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dmf@uk.ac.aber |  sawdust cheese and maple spice." | 
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From: Richard A. Swift <Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu>
Subject: Re: BR: Raw oysters, boiled dogs, tequila worms, calfskin wallets.
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F64323B901401C@rswift.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 5 Oct 92 01:08:19 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Aero. & Mech. Eng.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:03:31 GMT

In article <1aogbkINNcl0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Ross W. Starkey,
bx916@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
>In Blade Runner (all cuts), why would Rachel turn in a guy for giving
>her a calfskin wallet?  What's the big deal about calfskin?  Not like
>the world's gone veggie or anything... 


I have to listen a bit more carefully next time... I always thought it
was a "cat-skin" wallet. Hmmm....

Rich
From: t9014201@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: MAD MAX...best of the series
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:35:36 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article <1992Sep28.174508.7005@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, sdt8s@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson) writes:
> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu  writes:
>> 
>> I'm curious about when the films took place.
>> 
>> MMII takes place after the nuclear war-that was explained in the opening
>> montage, and the war was talked about directly in MMIII, but did MMI take
>> place before, during, or after the war??  Or was the war strictly bewteen
>> MMI and II??
>> 
>> Simon
>> 
> 
> Seems to me that society was undergoing the changes in MMI that
> led to the wasteland in MMII. In the opening monologue in Road
> Warrior, the narrator indicates that a war has already
> occurred, and that the breakdown of society evident in Mad Max
> (I) is a result of that war. Thus, MMI happened *after* at
> least one war.


Nah.  Mad Max 1 was simply set in a Society falling to pieces.  

If there is a war its not stated.  

Mad Max 1 is a cult film here among "Motor Heads".  This country is full of
Mean Black Fords, all trying to look like Max's car.
As a film that becomes part of the culture of a nation, MM1 is perhaps the
most influential of ANY Australian film...  More than Crocodile Dundee, or
any of those silly period pieces like Picnic at Hanging Rock.

Max Max 2 was silly (toooo silly in my opinion) but fun, and it still had cool
car chases.  The point of it was the battle for the Holy Petrol.  The motorcar
is the most important thing in the world.

Mad Max 3 committed a Sin that many people can't forgive it for.
	* IT CUT OUT THE CAR CHASES *  
Well, it kept one at the end, but it lost it's roots as a series based 
on WORSHIPING THE MOTORCAR.
It also added kids, which was pretty sinful too.
 

[ Interesting but Loooonnnnggg  stuff deleted]
 
> So:
> 1. Conventional war leads to societal breakdown (MMI, MMII)
> 2. Probably sometime after the events in MMII, there's a more
> general nuclear war. 
> 3. Four or five years later, society has been reduced even
> further to the level seen in Beyond Thunderdome.
> 

Maybe.  It could be a case of "reverse history" here.
I'm convinced that MM1 was just set in a society gone to hell,
then maybe when the made MM2 they reverse engineered this so that the events
in MM1 were occuring due to a war.  

I think a nuke war occured  between 1 and 2.
What we saw in MM2 was an isolated outpost, and a marauding MotorHead Gang.
there is NO law anymore....
MM3 shows society re-building again.  Unnder Aunty Entity.


> Sorry to have rambled...let the flames begin.
> 
> Steve
> --
> Language is a virus from Outer Space.      |-----------------------------|
> And hearing your name                      | Steve Tilson                |
> Is better                                  | sdt8s@poe.acc.virginia.edu  |
> Than seeing your face.   (Laurie Anderson) |-----------------------------|
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* Clouds...  Love...  Stars... Colours... *
                                     Greg McPherson * T9014201@phillip.edu.au
From: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk (Tim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: bladerunner script
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:21:43 GMT
Reply-To: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

>>>  no, just post it to this group 
>>
>>You seem to have missed the point -- posting such large files to a group

You ALL missed the point. It's not happening. I'm not scanning my copy
of the script. It has become SEP :-)

Tim

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And toes that cross, and knees that jerk	<-- British Telecom Labs -->
And necks like swans that seem to turn
As if inclined to gasp for breath...	- Quicklime Girl - , BOC
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Line from They Live
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:58:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep27.002515.27910@Princeton.EDU> rnoguchi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ryan Alexander Noguchi) writes:

>"I'm here to ______ , ______ , and chew bubble gum,
> and I'm all out of bubble gum."
>Can anyone out there fill in the blank?  Please reply via email or post
>to rec.arts.sf.movies.  Thanks in advance!

Isn't it "kick ass"?

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Office of Information Technology |   "We reserve the right to serve refuse to
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:19:15 GMT

In article <BvA2GF.IBo@quake.sylmar.ca.us> brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:
>In article <10538@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> imcc@cs.strath.ac.uk (Iain McCord) writes:
>>Peter Alexander Merel (pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au) wrote:
> 
>>: The crux of the matter is whether or not Scott intended Deckard's nature to 
>>: be ambiguous. Given the years of debate on the issue, with no resolution 
>>: either way, I think you'd have to agree that the ambiguity is intentional.

Until the conclusion of the movie.  Otherwise, where's the element of
suspense?  "Deckard is/isn't a replicant, audience.  Now, on with our
story..."?
>
[....]
>Considering the way Deckard was being tossed around by the replicants throughout
>the movie, I would say that he couldn't have been a replicant himself.  The

1) Replicants are graded with different physical and mental capabilities.
Roy was a mental A and physical A.  Leon was a mental C and a physical A.
Deckard could be any grade of either, including E.

2) Rachel is a replicant.  Deckard tossed Rachel around.  Deckard could
be a physical E and Deckard a D. 

In either case, Deckard doesn't have to be strong to be a replicant.

3) Rachel has no termination date.  Due to what Tyrell said about the
lifespan of Roy, etc., this might have something to do with the
termination date -- stronger/smarter replicants may live for shorter
durations.

In any case, the strength of other replicants with respect to Deckard
is completely irrelevant.

>only question that remained for me is how the other cop knew about the unicorn.
>One explanation would be that HE was a replicant and has Deckard's memories
>implanted, although this seems unlikely given that Deckard didn't know all
>the languages the other guy did.

The guy, Gaff, spoke "Cityspeak", which was depicted as a mishmash of
several languages.  It is one language.  And memory implants are
depicted as probably being selective.  
>
>--Brian

GMS


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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: T1000
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:59:48 GMT

<U59849@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>Did anyone else noticed in the chase scene between Arnold and the T1000.  While
>driving down the expressway in the SWAT Teams truck, the T1000 had to reload
>and while doing so he controled the helicoper with his both hands while reloadi
>ng with a third.  It a quick scene, but if you have slow motion with your VCR
>you can notice it, then again if you pay strict attention I think it's noticabl
>e.

According to the notes in the screenplay book, that scene shows the T-1000
with *four* hands.  I've never bothered to check this myself, so I can't
elaborate any further.


                                        --Steve Stelter
                                          sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: BR: Why does Pris short out?
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:11:11 GMT

jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>2) At the beginning, Brian says to Deckard that SIX replicants escaped and that
>ONE was fried trying to break into Tyrell, leaving FOUR.  Did math change in
>the 21st century, or is that just a gaffe? 

Ah, conclusive proof that Gaff was a replicant :-)

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From: MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Halcyon ALIEN kits?
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:45:37 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

I was wondering how many Alien plastic kits there are? Halcyon manufacture
them, they are very well made although a bit more expensive than ordinary kits.
So far, I've heard of these:

-Alien figure & egg (1/9 scale)
-Alien Face Hugger (1/1?)
-Alien dog-bursting "embryo" from Alien3 (NEW)
-Alien figure from Alien3 (NEW, 1/9 scale)
-Fossilized (biomechanoid) alien life form from Alien movie
-Ripley w. Power Loader (Aliens movie)
-US Space Marines Dropship (Aliens, 1/72 scale)
-Narcissus Rescue Vehicle Spaceship (Alien, 1/144 scale)
-USS Nostromo (at last! 1/960 scale, 16" long!!!) 
---
All in all, there should be at least eleven kits on the market. According to
TAMIYA NEWS, more model spacecraft, vehicles and Aliens will be released in the
future.
  
MARCU$

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Subject: ED-209
From: alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith)
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:36:46 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, NZ

Does anybody out there in Net-land know who provided the voice for
ED-209 in 'Robocop'? There's no mention in the credits, but to me it
sounds suspiciously like Michael Dorn.


--
...... Ross Smith (Wanganui, NZ) ...... alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz ......
           "Reasonable thought can only go so far. Beyond that,
     you must either be unreasonable or stop thinking." (A. Brilliant)

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From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: MAD MAX...best of the series
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:40:22 GMT


I'm curious about when the films took place.

MMII takes place after the nuclear war-that was explained in the opening
montage, and the war was talked about directly in MMIII, but did MMI take
place before, during, or after the war??  Or was the war strictly bewteen
MMI and II??

Simon
From: bx916@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ross W. Starkey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Deckard is NOT a Replicant
Date: 28 Sep 1992 04:23:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bx916@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ross W. Starkey)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel) says:

>des@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Desmond Irvine) writes:

>
>>Ridley Scott intended that Deckard's character be very ambiguous so that we
>>would have to think about the possiblity of him being a replicant.  However,
>>he doesn't give us any irrefutable evidence of this so we should dismiss it.
>>If we had any hard facts then we could say it is so, but we don't.  Remember,
>>"innocent until proven guilty."

Maybe in 2019, you are "guilty until proven innocent".

>Replicants are surely more innocent than humans. Therefore, by your "argument",
>Deckard is a replicant. You got it right when you said Deckard's nature is 
>intentionally ambiguous, but anything beyond that comes down to "Chacun a son
>gou".

No, he is saying "innocent until proven guilty".

You are saying "guilty until proven innocent".
-- 
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did you kill in battle,        peace - in peace sons bury fathers, but in war
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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: BLADERUNNER: City (was : Race and class)
Date: 28 Sep 92 10:38:23 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <2006@coyote.UUCP>, by jeffs@almaden.ibm.com (Jeff Schneiter):
> From what I remember from the book, the people that are left on Earth live
> in areas that are low in radiation (from what cause, I do not remember).

> This is another reason I find the happy "driving in the countryside"
> ending so full of s#!t. Outside of the cities it was essentially a  barren
> waste, definitely no hiways like they showed either.

I agree that the ending felt (and was) tacked on, but using the book
as a basis for argument on what amounts to a detail issue is not
really warranted, since except for the basic ideas at the outset, book
and film are so different.  Since the core of the plot (i.e., the
nature of the replicants) has been completely changed in the film, the
fact that of such virgin landscapes are still presumed to exist in
natural parks or not is not really that important in comparison.

.

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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: Cameron's cut "Abyss"
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:14:04 GMT

In article <1a8rotINNqf@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM writes:
>is this ever going to be released on VHS??? (please, please!!)

As with the Aliens Special Edition, I rather imagine this is one of those,
"Don't rule out the possibility, but don't hold your breath either," kind
of things...
-- 
Bill "Whassamatter?!  Can't you take a joke?!" Barnes   wbarnes@sura.net
Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
From: sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark: R2D2 & C3P0
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:12:26 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

wes1574@zeus.tamu.edu (Bill) writes:

> In article <1992Sep27.001620.14086@allegro.com>, sieler@allegro.com (Stan Sie
> >Sorry if this is a FAQ, but can anyone confirm whether or not Raiders
> >of the Lost Ark has a cameo appearance of R2D2 and C3P0 (etched on a wall?)?
> >If so, in what scene?  We just got the wide-screen laser disc, and have been
> >trying to find them.

Although I haven't seen it in the movie (I saw the etching in a clip in a 
magazine), it's supposed to be in the Well of Souls, perhaps in the wall 
behind the Ark.  I suggest that when this scene comes up, put the disc on 
slo-mo and watch very carefully.

My question is:  Is the etching George Lucas' way of validating Von 
Daakien's (sp) ancient astronaut theory?  =)



                                        - Sasha

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From: pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel)
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Organization: AOTC - CSSC
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:10:31 GMT

bx916@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ross W. Starkey) writes:
>In a previous article, pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel) says:

>>bx916@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ross W. Starkey) writes:
>>>where, oh where would a genetically engineered refugee, running for his life
>>>from the "law,", get a collection of 50-to-100 year old BLACK AND WHITE
>>>photographs????
>>
>>Obviously from the same person who gave him his employers, apartment and
>>memories: Eldon Tyrell.

>Again, if you start with a PREMISE of a conspiracy, you can explain anything..

Sorry. If conspiracy, then Eldon Tyrell. If not, then not.
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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:34:34 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Sep29.185731.23274@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, by gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart):
> I'm pretty sure you're right.  But Tyrell says Rachel is "special".
> And the reason for the "four-year safeguard" is said to be the
> fact that the strong, non-implanted replicants are dangerous.
> Then there's Tyrell's reasoning for the short lifespan.

Your reasoning is sound, especially since it is not apparent that
Rachel does share the Nexus-6 superpowers.  Still, since Rachel is
experimental, keeping the four-year limit, just in case, could be a
wise move.  Then again, it would keep them from studying long-term
effects.
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From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: Re: Alien Jaws
Organization: abUSENET, Coventry University, Coventry, UK
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:51:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.090806.1@woods.ulowell.edu> stancad@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>>>I finally found the terrestrial inspiration for the thrusting
>>>Alien inner jaw:  Sharks!
>> 
>> I disagree. There's none of the sawing action you get with sharks. I think
>> that the inspiration for Giger's Alien mouth is easily identified from 
>> contemporaneous sketches of his; it's a penis. 
>> 
>> The game is afoot!
>
>You guys are sick!
>

guru sez:
	can somebody kindly explain what's sick about penis analogies for 
	thrusting things?

	I thought it was well understood that the whole Alien series is deeply
	misogynistic, hence the alien has a big thrusting set of mouthparts to
	represent rape and similar penile violations of the flesh.

	Hey, I'm a psychologist and I hadn't realised...!

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From: cgc2646@usl.edu (Cech Claude G)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:36:51 GMT
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana

In article <1992Sep28.151915.18082@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>In article <BvA2GF.IBo@quake.sylmar.ca.us> brian@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Brian K. Yoder) writes:
>
>
>3) Rachel has no termination date.  Due to what Tyrell said about the
>lifespan of Roy, etc., this might have something to do with the
>termination date -- stronger/smarter replicants may live for shorter
>durations.
>
From what I remember, the claim that Rachel has no termination date occurs
in the voice-over ending in the earlier versions of the film.  There is no
indication of this in the Director's cut.

Cheers -
		Claude
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