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From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Purple and then red mohawks. Vondelburg park.
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:00:47 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Aug27.200917.4123@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <17j0tvINN5r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>In article 92Aug27103854@thneed.cs.duke.edu, jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito) writes:
>>
>>>a big help when you are lost in Amsterdam when you are feeling
>>>*really* good 
>>
>>Don't by *anything* off the streets in Amsterdam.
>>
>>And check out the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers Bar, it's on the upper
>>it is within walking distance of Dam's Square.  Interesting menu...

Yeah, I vaguely remember being in Amsterdam, too.  Oh wow!  ;-)

Fly (damn near) Free,

Bill

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: ba.motorcycles, anyone?
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:42:06 GMT

In article <ramarren-250892073137@kip-5.apple.com> ramarren@apple.com
(Godfrey DiGiorgi) writes:

>Although the r.m traffic is high, I'll probably continue to read
>most of the 'interesting' banter here anyway; it's just a good thing
>to have a group where you know the people are local to arrange local rides
>etc.

We already have a mechanism in place for arranging local
rides: the cycles mailing list.  Its advantage over
a newsgroup is that there's less propagation time,
at least for those of us with indirect news feeds.

Eric wanted a place for the 'etc.'.  Eliot Lear says
he's sent out the newgroup message, so ba.motorcycles
should be available soon.


To subscribe to 'cycles', send mail to cycles-request@forel.stanford.edu
with your name and e-mail address.

--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bob@csbvax.uucp (Bob Palin)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: Varian Chromatography Systems
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 16:48:08 GMT

In article <78843@ut-emx.uucp> captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
>to the lock, even when stashed on the seat under the bungee.  The
>apparatus is simply a 1 meter piece of wire knotted & soldered into
>a loop.  This wire loop is then passed through the D ring of the helmet,
>and the two free ends are secured into the helmet lock.

I don't suggest you use this method with full face helmets, put the wire
through the face opening.  People who steal helmets generally do so
because they are no good low life scumbags as you quite rightly point
out. They don't care if the helmet is fastened to their heads
by a strap - they just cut it off and maybe try to make a new one.
I had a helmet cut off my bike just like that many years ago.

Bob Palin, Varian, Walnut Creek, Ca (510)945-2278, AMA #353696, DoD #257
bob@varian.com     242,201 miles and counting     CBR600, ST1100, KLR650
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Gas Leak - CB750
Summary: It happened to me, too
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:47:37 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug27.034213.20110@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
] twalker@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy M Walker) writes:
] 
] >My '81 CB750C is *pouring* gas out one of the rubber tubes.  I checked the 
] >carb drain screws, and that's not the problem.  The gas is coming out as a 
] >constant stream, it looks like from only one tube, but I can't tell where 
] >the tube runs. 
] 
] You've got a stuck and/or worn needle valve. Since your bike is 11 years
] old, you're probably due for replacing the needle valves. The tube that
] the gas is coming out of is the overflow drain for the carb with the
] bad needle valve. You'll have to pull the float bowl and float assembly
] to get to the valve. It's a bit of a pain, but not terribly difficult if
] you know which end of a screwdriver to use as a hammer. :-)

It happened to my FJ a couple of months ago.  I pulled out my carbs
and took 'em apart and cleaned them.  Later that night, before
reassembly, I was at the dealer with my friend and I mentioned my
problem to the mechanic.  He said it sounded like a stuck float and I
should just tap on the outside of the bowl and see if it unsticks.
Since I'd already cleaned 'em, I couldn't try this high-tech fix. 

They worked after reassembly, btw. 

] 
] > It only occurs when the engine is running; when I kill 
] >the engine the flow immediately trickles out and dies.
] 
] You've got a vacuum operated petcock, it only allows gas to flow when
] the engine is running. If you had a manual petcock, your entire gas tank
] would have drained through the defective carb.

That's what mine did, even though, as far as I know, mine is
vacuum-operated, too.  Hmmm.

                                                - Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: fuel problems on a CM400T -- need HELP!
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 15:23:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.013405.18531@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>my buddy in pittsburgh has an old cm400t with a fuel problem.  after having
>a retired mechanic tune it up/get it roadworthy after two years in storage
>(included rebuilding/synching the carbs 'by ear'), it presents the following
>symptoms:
>
>choke on:  idles high, starts out fine from rest, ok at speed
>
>choke off: idles fine, bogs badly when pulling out, tough to get the speed
>           over 40mph or so.

Easy things first. Are you sure you know which setting is on and which is
off? (It is not always marked) It sounds like you've got it right, but
you never know.

The symptoms sound like your bike is cold. I hope you're letting it warm 
up (no skimping!) before turning the choke off. This may take quite a few 
minutes, depending on the outside temperature. My RZ runs just like this 
when it's cold, only worse. When it warms up, it's fine with the choke
off, and runs poorly and refuses to idle with the choke on.

If you can get the bike to run hard and fast consistently then you don't have 
a fuel flow problem between the tank and the carbs. If it won't run with the 
choke off but runs with it on, then your mixture must be too lean. Other
things which may pass for bad mixture are (off the top of my head) poor 
carb synchronization, or (one should never leave ignition out of fuel- 
related problems) your timing may be off or your spark plugs may be toast.

>... if more details are needed, i'll

Yes, please. Does it always run this way or is it intermittent or temperature
dependent, throttle position dependent, etc.

>get and provide them.  i'd suspected it was the 'other' adjustment besides
>the idle set 

Air jet, maybe (don't know if your carbs are the same as mine)? Yes, if it's 
open too far this may account for your lean mixture. Get a service manual 
and follow the adjustment procedure or take the bike to a dealer for proper
adjustment of all the little screws on the side of the carbs. It sounds
like you guys did it using the looks-about-right approach instead of finding
out what would make it run well. Get it adjusted right, and if it doesn't
work then, come back and we'll start looking for bad parts.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: counter steering
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:01:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Sep04.200117.20083
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Sep04.160833.17701@gecko.uucp> ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell) writes:
>COUNTER STEERING RESEARCH:
>
>    A few days ago my wife asked me to check something on
>her funny trike, so I rode it to work. I noticed that it
>didn't respond well to countersteering, so I decided to
>do some research on all the vehicles we have and as many
>at work as possible. The results were:
>
>description                    countersteering works?
>========================================================
>'57 Harley FL                           YES
>'76 Harley XLCH                         YES
>'54 Harley GA (Servicar)                NO
...
>'90 Peterbuilt  (18 wheeler)            NO
>'92 Marmon      (18 wheeler)            NO


A Marmon!  And not just a Marmon, but a '92!  I didn't even know
they were still around.  Nice rig, guy!  (Is it yours or your wife's?)

>    Preliminary data indicates that the number of road
>wheels may have some effect on countersteering but, weight
>could be the controlling factor. This cannot be determined
>untill we find some 80,000 pound motorcycles to compare to
>the trucks.

Did I read the top of the list wrong, or don't you already have 3 up
there?

(oh, yeah!  :')
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: eeharvey@cybaswan.UUCP (i t harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: lane splitting
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:41:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.233449.381@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.185742.12827@javelin.sim.es.com>, llane@javelin.sim.es.com (Laura Lane) writes:
> 
> > standstill you should only go 5mph). Now I have lane splitted and I don't
> 
> i believe the correct conjugation is "lane splitten".  i lane split,
> you lane split, he,she,it lane splits; i have lane splitten, you have
> lane splitten, he,she,it has lane splitten; i will have lane splitten,
> you will have lane splitten, he,she,it will have lane splitten; etc.
> 
[...]

No. The correct conjugation is "lane splat". i lane split,
you lane split, he,she,it lane splits; i have lane splat, you have
lane splat, he,she,it has lane splat; i will have lane splat,
you will have lane splat, he,she,it will have lane splat; etc.

My pleasure

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________
  Ian Harvey, University College Swansea         Too old to rock'n'roll
  eeharvey@uk.ac.swan.pyr                              Too young to die
                              '79 GS750E
From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thirsty carbs at 80+mph???
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:28:07 GMT
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility

In article <14314@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:

>Running the bike at 80+ mph for an extended period of time
>(5+ mins) causes the carbs to start sputtering . . . lack
>of gas.  To alleviate this problem I have to:

You might have a clogged fuel filter, or a clogged air vent into the tank.
I had a vent problem with my R80/7 when the tank was full, during fast
riding. (OK, so it didn't go very fast.) Try opening the fuel filler
cap and let some air into the tank. If it cures it, then you know.

Mark
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    _ _ _ cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil, (w) 410-267-2261, (h) 410-647-0990
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    _ _ _ cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil, (w) 410-267-2261, (h) 410-647-0990
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: lane splitting
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 10:51:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.150334.2958@i88.isc.com>,
	 jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes...
>In the phrase "I was lane splat", I always thought the verb was "to be", 
>and "lane splat" was a noun.  You know, as in "Some asshole cager stuck
>in traffic cut me off while I was lane splitting.  I was lane splat."

	Of course, here it's something like "Ich bin strassenbahnengesplattet
gewesen".  (Don't forget the "sp" is pronounced "schp").  Given the penchant
for acronyms that probably reduces to " 'bi' SBGS g'wese'" :-)

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
"noematical -- a. Obs. rare;  Originating, or existing, in thought, or in the
 mind alone."	-- Compact Oxford Dictionary
From: dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Attn: Boston DoD! Drink Beer with Me!
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:23:00 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California


I'm going to be in Cambridge all of next week (9/7 - 9/11) for a
conference. Anybody want to meet up and flame me, drink beer and
discuss countersteering shaft drive bikes?

Dana

-- 
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ 		| Views expressed here are	*
 * (310) 337-5136 		| mine and do not necessarily	*
 * dana@locus.com  DoD #466 	| reflect those of my employer	*
 * "Dammit Bones, spare me the lecture and give me the shot!"   *
From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Fabulous Harley Babe Bashing etc.
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:12:43 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <Btwqnt.9GG@waterloo.hp.com>, romanko@waterloo.hp.com (Jeff Romanko) writes:
> :
> : 
> : Any Questions?? 
> : 
> : Tod J. Johnson
> : DoD #883
> : "Go Slow, Take Geritol, It's Good To Be Back"
> 
> 
> How come a lot of women on the backs of Harley's appear to be 20 years or
> so younger than the gentlemen driving?

Either the jail-bait types like the Milwaukee vibrators, or getting 
splattered in the face with bugs causes the gentlemen driving to age 
rapidly.
........................Dr. Doom
From: starfish@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Smarter than the Average Blur)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: >= 600 Sport bikes
Date: 2 Sep 1992 04:20:18 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Sep01.132825.12540@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
:Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher (egreen@east.sun.com) wrote:
:: In article 28299@tamsun.tamu.edu, peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) writes:
:: >hi,
:: >
:: >   I would like to have a comparison, however brief
:: >   it might be of sport bikes with capacity >= 600 CC.
:: 
:: They're great.
:: 
:
:Well....., some of them are. It all depends on what you're after.  If you want
:an outright winner, on power, handling, looks, economy, price and pose value,
:I can do nothing less than recommending th   @   )
:
:tin:  transmission error.  Message aborted.
:
:ksh>  core dumped. ^C^X^U
:^

What he was trying to say was CBR600F2LN.
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Newbie in need of help
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:33:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.191953.9456@samba.oit.unc.edu> David.Berger@bbs.oit.unc.edu (David Berger) writes:
>the weather.  I left the battery in all winter.  I was told this was a
>mistake.  Is it?  

Yes. The battery freezes (problem 1) and you did not charge it once a month
(problem 2).

>Well, the bike startup up after a while but it needed
>starter fluid to get started.  

You poured barbecue starter on you bike and lit it?

>It has been running liek shit all summer.
>Yesterday, it died.

No wonder!

>but when I try to start it (electronic), a repeated clicking results
>from just under the seat on the left side of the bike.  It looks like
>the starter (maybe?).  

The starter is not getting enough power to turn.

>Is the battery dead 

Yes.
>
>P.S. - What is DoD?

No.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor))
Subject: Motorcycles on TV
Keywords: cbr tv leathers
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:19:46 GMT


Anyone else watch 'Wings' last night?  I just got the end of it, when one of 
the lead characters comes riding into a warehouse (actually, leaping in from 
a couple of feet off the ground), comes to a quick stop, does a little rear-
tire smokey spin and stops.  Says to his co-stars, watching with amusement, 
"Had just enough money for a downpayment and these bitchin' leathers".  He 
was riding a red and white CBR600F2, wearing a full-face helmet and racing 
leathers.  He then takes a girl co-star, in street clothes :-(, for a ride
offstage.

Liked the bike and the clothes (his, anyway), but I don't think the riding 
style did anything for the public's image of sport-bikers (or bikers in 
general).

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%          Ken Denton                     DOD# 1124           %
%          sysop@elan.glassboro.edu       82 CB750K           %
%                                                             %
%                         "Your Ad Here!"                     %
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From: Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I have my DOD number!!!
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:10:36 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Aero. & Mech. Eng.
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C92B398C02401C@rswift.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 1 Sep 92 20:14:17 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

In article <1992Aug31.231317.19478@news.arc.nasa.gov> Curtis Howland,
howland@noc.arc.nasa.gov writes:

>|> I like jalapenos, thunderstorms, riding my motorcycle, 
>|>any Matt Groening or Dave Barry book, and my favorite place is >|>the
middle of nowhere.
>
>If you're female too, this is just too good to be true.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
Man, Curt, you are SMOOTH! Why didn't I use this line on her?
I can obviously benefit from the experienced DODer's when it comes to
**interfacing** with women.

It's also good to see that some members of the DoD actually have a
preference.........

Can we go "cruise fa chicks" some night Curt?
---
>Curt Howland             howland@nsipo.nasa.gov 
>DoD#0663       '80 CB750C         '82 V45 Sabre

Rich Swift , DOD #.......................
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Thirsty carbs at 80+mph???
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:56:50 GMT

eeharvey@cybaswan.UUCP (i t harvey) writes:
>In article <14343@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug26.172102.11497@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>> |> twisted petcock gasket. Because the holes in the gasket didn't line up
>> |> with the holes in the petcock, the only fuel reaching the carbs was what
>> |> leaked past the gasket. I could ride it for a float bowl's distance at a
>> |> time. :-)

>> Now *that's* an idea . . 

>Yeah, but it wouldn't explain the progressive nature of the disease.

It did when it happened to me. It was a cylindrical gasket that twisted
a bit each time I turned the petcock. At first it would starve for fuel
when run for a while at 60mph or so. It degraded over a few weeks
until I could quite literally ride only a float bowl's worth of gas.
Then I'd have to let it sit for 10-20 minutes before the float bowls
would fill up again. It took me forever to figure out the problem
because I never imagined that the petcock could be the culprit.

Now this was on a '68 TC250 Suzuki, and I've never seen another petcock
that used the same sort of cylindrical gasket, so it may be no help in
this case, but you never know.

One more thing that just occured to me, if Mark's bike has a vacuum
petcock, perhaps there's a fault in the vacuum line or the diaphragm,
and it's only opening part way. If it does have a vacuum petcock with a
"prime" position, see if runing on "prime" gets rid of the problem.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Riding Two on a CBR600F2
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:10:22 GMT
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware

In article <msbogd-270892145137@enterprise.lerc.nasa.gov> msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael S. Bogdanski) writes:
>Recently, I've carried a passenger on my '92 CBR600F2.  It seemed like a
>great idea until my crotch was smashed up against the gas tank while
>slowing and my privates were smashed, causing quite a bit of discomfort. 
>Also, I found that there was a tremendous extra load put on my arms while
>slowing down due to the increased weight from behind.  I weigh about 175lb
>and my passenger about 110lb.  Has anyone figured out a method for
>minimizing/eliminating these uncomfortable and painful encounters while
>carrying a passenger?


You could get a better passenger :-).  My wife rides with me 
a lot and we never have any problems like this...  

First, have him/her/it try to brace themselves on the gas tank
when you're slowing.  If they are holding on this will not
be difficult.  Typically my wife does not hold on tight 
during normal riding, she just keeps her hands on my waist
"just in case".  It will help a lot if your passenger tries
to be aware of traffic.  That way there is a better chance that
they will be prepared for the stop and can brace themselves
accordingly. 

Another thing they can do is reach back and grab the passenger
grab rail with one hand when slowing (if you have one...)

Finally, if you were riding with your legs against the fuel tank
as you should be, you could tighten your grip on the tank
while stopping to keep form smashing your jewels :-)

Steve





-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
From: eeharvey@cybaswan.UUCP (i t harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Accident Report
Date: 25 Aug 92 09:43:17 GMT

In article <BtIA5y.5J5@waterloo.hp.com>, romanko@waterloo.hp.com (Jeff Romanko) writes:
>  Well, not exactly an accident.  I ran over a dog.  Last night, riding
>  
>  Any other thoughts?
>  

Poor, poor lickle doggie :(

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________
  Ian Harvey, University College Swansea         Too old to rock'n'roll
  eeharvey@uk.ac.swan.pyr                              Too young to die
                              '79 GS750E