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From: bgilbert@cs.washington.edu (Benjamin Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Boston Computer Society shows Falcon 030
Date: 8 Oct 92 07:16:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: beaver.1992Oct8.071622.11355
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <ABADDON.92Oct7175031@suprenum.uk.ac.liverpool.scm.suprenum> abaddon@uk.ac.liverpool.scm.suprenum (Kevin o donovan) writes:
>>>>>> On 4 Oct 92 12:29:35 GMT, osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU (Stefan Monnier) said:
>
>> The problem is not in the monitors (well also, but..):
>
>> You can't get 768x480x32K on VGA monitors, cause it requires a too
>> large bandwidth. On TV, you can do interlace which halves the necessary
>> bandwidth. But you if you try to interlace on a VGA monitor, the
>> vertical sync frequency goes too low for most monitors (that's also why
>> the 320x240 is doube-scan).
>
>On the subject of monitors for the falcon, my current set up (for my ST) is
>an SC124 for working on, and a Sony Trinitron connected via scart for any 

I assume you mean an SM124 (original Atari monochrome) - the SC1224 is color
and there's no such thing as an SC124.

>colour stuff. With the sony in that configuration, should I be able to get
>overscan+true colour on the falcon? Also, how will a vga monitor compare to the
>SC124 - I don't want to have to keep 3 monitors in use, so I'd ideally want to
>use VGA for working, and the sony for any colour stuff the monitor can't 
>handle. Would there be any more eyestrain from the VGA monitor than from the 
>SC124?
>
>Kev

1) Yes, you should be able to get true-color in all the modes (in fact, you
get all the modes, period) in your Scart configuration.  You _will_ have
interlace in some modes, but you can at least use them all.  Oh, and you
can do overscan with this type of monitor.

2) A VGA monitor (assuming you get a 640x480 which really is the cheapest
VGA monitor you can get anyway) will give you good, non-interlaced graphics
in all modes the Falcon offers.   The picture should be just as good as your
SM124, _and_ give you color capability to boot.  There shouldn't be any more 
eyestrain, really.

3) The nitty-gritty : You can do all modes really well with the VGA monitor,
except you can't do high-res true color, and the overscan is faked.  So,
if you get the VGA monitor, you can drop the SM124, but perhaps keep the
Sony if you really want to see the 640x400 (768x480 with overscan) in true 
color.


Cheers,

Ben Gilbert
bgilbert@cs.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg)
Subject: Re: FALCON ? READ THIS !!!
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:26:37 GMT

chu@acsu.buffalo.edu (John C. Chu) writes:

>Were the 2nd generation Amigas bad computers because Commodore decided
>to give them an "ST-style" (:-)) numeric keypad? :-) :-)

>Of course not. Having a numeric keypad is generally considered an
>improvement.

>(My Amiga history isn't that great. But if I remember correctly, the
>first Amiga keyboards didn't have a numeric keypad, but later ones
>did, in the "standard" (i.e., VT terminal, PC keyboard) layout.)

  All Amiga models except the A600 has got numeric keyboards. That includes
the very first Amiga 1000.

  So there :-)
-- 
Stefan Boberg - AP & EE student at Linkoping Institute of Technology, Sweden
 Author of LhA, ArjA and LhArcA. Co-author of Alien Breed, Project X ...
  EMail: boberg@lysator.liu.se, lha@augs.se           FIDO: 2:204/404.7
    UUCP:  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmswe!team17!boberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: annius@sif.research.ptt.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: Amiga Blitter 40% slower than Atari Blitter (???)
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:32:47 GMT

"Paul Purdom" <pwp@moose.cs.indiana.edu> writes:

(I wrote)
>>out the cheap low-end (games) machines first.

>This game machine comment has always mistified me since I first heard it used
>by an Amiga salesman. The original Amiga was a game machine par excelence.
>Also I like games, but I bought the ST becaause it was cheaper, and it was
>possible to obtain the information needed to write interesting programs.

So did I, but still the majority of <=1Meg ST owners use their machines
mainly to play games. (Of course THEY should have bought an Amiga because
they're wrong publicity for Atari:- I lost count of the number of cases I told
people I worked with an Atari for serious programming and got the answer: `Oh
you've got an Atari game-computer?')


-- 
Annius Victor Groenink      Universiteit Utrecht      PTT Research Leidschendam
Mathematics/Comp. Sc.        avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl       +31 70 3325445 (weekdays)
Atari ST/Music          A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl  +31 70 3464732 (evenings)
_____________My opinions are my opinions____________  +31 5700 29396 (weekends)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: annius@nanna.research.ptt.nl (Annius Groenink)
Subject: Re: Jack - from Commodore to Atari
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:39:27 GMT

cpb@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Chris Billows) writes:

>What I want to know is:

>How is it that Jack Tramael(?) managed to be so successful with the C-64 
>and Commodore and yet can't repeat that success with Atari?

>Surely the ST line of computers is superior to the C-64. But I remember 
>those "I Adore My 64" commericals.

>Anybody care to voice their opinion?

Adoring your computer is out of fashion. People now are WP-masochists.
-- 
Annius Victor Groenink      Universiteit Utrecht      PTT Research Leidschendam
Mathematics/Comp. Sc.        avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl       +31 70 3325445 (weekdays)
Atari ST/Music          A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl  +31 70 3464732 (evenings)
_____________My opinions are my opinions____________  +31 5700 29396 (weekends)
From: jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance)
Subject: Re: Convert picture formats??? Which program?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:59:30 GMT

nino@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Marinos Yannikos) writes:
>Well, I think in the PBMPLUS package there is a program called 'giftoppm'
>which converts .GIFs to .PPM format (at least here on these Ultrix boxes
>it's available), and on atari.archive.umich.edu I recently saw an archive
>called 'ppmtoraw.lzh' (I think, could have been 'pbmtoraw.lzh'), so these
>2 should do the trick...

  Exactly.  In the Atari version of PBMPLUS there is giftoraw and
pnmscale, and there is a separate file for ppmtoraw.   pnmscale is
needed to scale down the size of the pictures (otherwise you end up
with *really* large .raw files).
  I've been using these packages to run gifs, jpegs (with DJPEG), and
other images into raw mode for PhotoChrome and the results are usually
at least 2 times better than what can be produced by a good Spectrum
converter (like DMJGIF).  And this is just the SuperHAM mode (96
colors per scan line out of 4096) on a standard ST!  I'd love to see
what STE PhotoChrome mode (~19k colors from ~32k palette) looks like.

  In any case, There are a few things lacking.  The slideshow program
provided is really horrible.  It only supports drive A: (I believe)
and is severely lacking in features.  Even if it was equivalent to the
standard Degas slideshow it would be better.  It would be nice to have
a better slideshow program or have something like DSLIDE support PCS
files along with SPC and TNY and PI?.
  It would also be nice to have a compressed mode for PCS files.  If
you thought Spectrum pics were bad....   PCS pics in SuperHam mode
average about 65k.  LH5 compression reduces file size very
significantly. 

  There are a few bugs in PhotoChrome itself (not compatible with
TOS14FIX.PRG), and it would be nice to read GIFs directly but these
can be worked around for now.
  The author is providing the source to the PCSVIEW.PRG (compiles to
3k!), and it would be great to see Lexicor and other companies support
these new modes in rendering and paint software.

  Anyway, remember that PhotoChrome is shareware and that if the
author gets enough support, he will be producing some very exciting
software utilizing these new modes.  (What is the best way to send
money from the US to the UK anyway?).
  This really is the best graphics hack since Spectrum itself.
--
Joachim Vance (The Underdog)
^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
     I am antisesquipedalian--Opposed to the use of long words.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: v882045@presser.si.hhs.nl (Kunst)
Subject: info about VIDEOSTREAMER?
Originator: v882045@presser
Organization: Sector Informatica, Haagse Hogeschool, The Hague, The Netherlands
Distribution: eunet
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 14:55:03 GMT

Does anyone outthere has more information about this video tapestreamer, some
german company should be selling by now?

It was first mentioned a half year ago in a paper (which is called ACN). Then
the release of this magic box was prosponed until August/September. Again ACN
writes that this video streamer should be available by now somewhere begin
September. I still haven't heard since.

It's about this little box that makes a tape streamer from your video. It can
put upto 640 Mb on a 240 minute tape. With a price of $15 for a good tape, this
means less than 2 and a half dollar cent per stored megabytes. You might want
to compare this to other media, but it's bloody cheap.

I believe it was said to do about 1 Megabyte per minute, but considering a
normal tape speed you'd have to do 22.5 sec for each Megabyte (2 2/3 Mb/sec).

Well it's sounds cheap, quite fast (ok, faster machines are available, but this
is much faster than normal floppy's anyway), so it's price will probably be
very high. Well,..., it's not. It should do about $125 with software.

My questions are:

  o Has anyone seen or used this system?
  o Are those specifications true indeed?
  o How does the software work? Does it have a nice user interface? Can I dump
    several files, dump a whole disk (logical and physical) and still get only
    some files (selected ones, or all new ones).
  o Does it work with the parallel port or DMA ? (I really would like SCSI BTW)
  o What's the connection to the VCR. Do I have to rewind and position it
    myself, or do I only have to wait for four hours to get the last files?
    Does it ask for specific kind of VCR's?

Mark Kunst
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Chaos
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 9 Oct 1992 06:36:13 GMT
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Just a note to the author of 'Chaos'.... Well done!!  It's very enjoyable!

That will be all...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453)
Subject: Re: Amiga
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:11:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.033443.10605@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 01mbmccabe@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
|> All these years of hearing the
|> >>
|> >>              _#      **MMp     g#00   `N##0"    _agN#0P0N#           _#L
|> >>             g##       jN##    j##F     J##    _dN0"      "          g##L
|> >>           _#]##      _0 ##L  jN##F     ###   g#0"                 _03##L
|> >>          gE_j##      #  0## jF ##F    j##F  j##     ______       gE_j##L
|> >>        _0"""N##     d"  J##L0  ##F    0##   0##     "9##F"     _0"""5##L
|> >>      _gF    ]##    jF    ##0   ##F    ##F   `##k     d##     _gF    j##L
|> >>    _g#_    _j##L__g#__   ]N  _j##L_ _d##L_   `#Nh___g#N'   _g#_    _j##L_
|> >>   `""""    """""'""""'    "  """""" """"""      """""""   `""""    """"""
|> 
|> people trying to make me go oooh and aaaah, and I still haven't gone oooh or
|> ahhh to a single thing that is inherent to the Amiga.  not surprisingly I have
|> gone bleh! a few times......What a user interface!

  If you are talking about 2.xx, then you are just too fanatic.

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------
          // 
  Raist \X/  Amiga 500, 38Mhz Special MegaMidget Racer
             Avid user of AmigaVision 
             Sending mail from Mayaguez, Puerto Rico
---------
           "If the PC or Mac continues to be the standard,
            the SkyNet will never be built." - my words

   And also an EX-ATARIAN, who WOULD HAVE BOUGHT THE ST, should it have
been TRULY BETTER THAN THE AMIGA, AND ATARI HAD BEEN A STABLE COMPANY.

   Just in case, I have used the ST's...
From: ddv@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Domenico De Vitto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Which programming language?
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:16:55 GMT
Organization: University of Brighton, UK

Probebly a BASIC, but I'd say that when that is mastered move on to a 'c'
compiler and then anything you can't do in one can be done in the other.

I'd recommend gfa basic or fast basic (fastbasic has a in-built assembler, but
gfa is quicker/nicer). - both are about 35 pounds.

You can pick up sozobon C at 'a.a' and I've found it pretty good.
(go for sozo133i first then when you feel the need upgrade to sozobon2, as the
first auto-installs etc)

Dom
From: Julian_Reschke@ms.maus.de (Julian Reschke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: flopticals
Date: 10 Oct 92 06:13:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: MS.A49690
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14

Markku Luoto (mluoto@klaava.Helsinki.FI) wrote:
>        does anyone KNOW (atari boys maybe ?)
>        wether AHDI 5.0 (or some other AHDI)
>        supports 21Mb Floptical SCSI drives
>        like INSITE I-325vm ?

HuSHI (driver) and SCSI-Tool (partitioner) support Flopticals. They
are sold by Hard&Soft, Castrop-Rauxel, Germany. Programs and
documentation are in German (might be a problem).
From: Peter.Kocourek@p13.f112.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Peter Kocourek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon in Holland
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 23:04:52 -0100

In a message of <04 Oct 92  22:06:26>, Hendrik Jan Veenstra (60:100/1) writes:

 >> - The Falcon will be introduced in Holland in Februari 1993
 HJ> 
 HJ> Very good news :)

Strange... this is apparently another case of the Perpetually
Procrastinated Product. I spoke to a representative of Atari Benelux at the Atari Messe, and I was told then that the Falcon would be on sale in the Netherlands by the end of this year. I sincerely hope we are not entering another phase of "Real Soon Now" marketing.

Anyway, in Germany they are supposed to get their Falcons earlier than we, so hs anyone seen Falcons for sale yet there?

 HJ> Very bad news... What kind of policy is this??? Most people have a
 HJ> separate HD and no need for another one - why force customers to buy
 HJ> some dreadful 52 Meg HD? (which probably is a Seagate...?! ^**%$ I
 HJ> hope I am mistaken...)
 HJ> Hendrik "I like my 210M Quantum :)" Jan

Peter "I like my 210M Maxtor" Kocourek. :-)


YHS:QSI!
Organisation: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet, Muenster, Germany
Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 16:46:30 MEZ
From: <HAEBLER@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: gas-syntax

Hi,

does someone know where I can find a doc about the GNU assembler
syntax?

Thanx
      Marcus


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*     MARCUS HAEBLER                                                     *
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier)
Subject: Re: Pure C ?
Organization: BNR
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:49:04 GMT


In the United States Gribnif Software, makers of Neodesk distribute
Pure C. You can send them Email on GEnie, or Compuserve.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: wilsont@orac.holonet.net (Timothy Wilson)
Subject: Re: Case Design for Falcon
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:23:45 GMT

Hiya,

Whats the Big deal about the case design?
that and the 'mushy' keyobard have got to be the 2 lamest gripes!
(welll. in my opinion.. you are entitiled to yours of course.. )

I use a 386 and of course have an ST. 
Personally, the 386 keyboard is all sticky, and ugh.
the ST's doesn't stick. I don't type 40 pages a day unlike some of you guys/gals

I don't know, but You can _really_ feel a major differnce is keyboards?
I can sorta tell a difference, but it doesn't bother me to the point of
" ARARGH not an ST keyboard! where's my poison!! "

The case design:
does a detachible keyboard and a tower case improve the computer any?
people bitched about the TT's case as being "ugly", Looks fine to me. 
why worry about case designs and keyboards?

I would think that if the falcon was just a 030 in a megaSTe case... then you
could bitch about the hardware, nothing new, etc.. 

I'm holding out for the 040, not because of the case, or keyboard,
but that its going to be reallly fast. 

my point is that i have no point.. just voicing my opinions over the bitching.


Timothy Wilson 
wilsont@prism.cs.orst.edu
From: mapmh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (M Hagger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: learning assembly language
Date: 14 Oct 92 09:36:10 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

Matt McCabe writes:
>Something I've wondered ever since I bought my first computer (around 6th
>grade)....How does one go about learning to program in assembly language? 
>There really aren't any words are there?  It doesn't seem like it could be the
>same as learning BASIC, Pascal, or COBOL...is it?
>
>
>				-Matt McCabe

I tried e-mailing you but it bounced so I'll put my thoughts here instead
to bore everyone silly.

Interesting question that, back in the old days of having a Amstrad
CPC computer with a Z80 chip, I bought a book on machine code
programming which had a few easy examples with the hex code for them,
the only programs I could write then were "hand coded" as I didn't
have an assembler - now that was REAL programming.  Like all language
learning you start by writing short simple code like something to
clear the screen or put a sprite on the screen, its not much different
to learning a high level language where you write a short print "hello
world" type piece of code.

In assembly there are actually quite a few "words" as you put it,
except that rather than being one "word" to execute a whole process
(like print"hello") is just does one machine type instruction, like
add two numbers together (very glib example that).

In short, I'd say it is just like learning a high level language in
some sense, the BIG difference is that you have to write a hell of a
lot more instructions to do some simple task.

I love writing in assembler myself, at least then I know that I'm not
relying on someone elses code to make my stuff run fast, hell, I even
wrote an entire word processor in assembly, more or less just for the
hell of it - but it was damn fast!  And being able to have an 80x34 text
mode on a standard ST was useful.  Of course these days my simple word
processor is obselete as I have access to systems running X-windows,
but at the time it was damn good.

Also without being to write assembler I wouldn't have been able to write
any of the nifty 3-d solid graphics applications, as nothing else would
have run fast enough (even in pure *highly optimised* code its still too
slow for my purposes though - Falcons where are you?)

Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,news.answers
From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Subject: Correction & new Falcon info/rumor
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:35:17 GMT
Organization: MSD software vault #9 @THD

About a week ago  I was mindlessly rambling along about the buswidth
and video bandwidth of the Falcon. Well, I just got hold again of an
old C't' issue and it sez: Max video pixelfrq == 32 Mhz on the Falcon.
If you figure that a pixel is max. 2 byte in the Falcon that would
be 'ta da' 64MB/s (as predicted). But on the other hand so what ? This
could be all wrong too.

On a more interesting note, the article also sez that you can feed the
video chip an external signal to double or even quadruble the pixel
frequency, the internal hardware normally provides.
Which means that you can easily get higher resolution. 

Well it seems that this has already been done. Something called the
Screen Blaster does:

880x608/61 Hz, 
768x496/72 Hz 
640x480/80 Hz

I assume that these are 8bit modes (but this part is totally rumor, it 
could be mono, or even truecolor, I am just guessing). The prize is said
to be 149.- DM and the supplier is OverScan. (nope no affiliation with these
dudes) And said to be available NOW.

I have no idea, what monitor you need for that.

Nat!
-- 
"Don't ask what your boyfriend can do for you   
Ask what you can do for your boyfriend"       
				[JFK on a taped phone call to MM]
---	from "Secret Tapes" by Richie Noxin
From: wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Marsupilami's private UUCP site - Palumbien, Germany.
Subject: Xwindows on TT (Re: Falcon 040 / Windowing UNIX)
	<1992Oct4.123634.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>
Reply-To: wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 06:48:28 MET

In <1992Oct4.123634.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, Eric Smith writes:
> In article <1992Oct3.200144.25301@wam.umd.edu>, humphrie@wam.umd.edu (James B. Humphries) writes:
> > The last thing I heard about windowing UNIX was depressing.  In one of those
> > online confs. with one atari gurus it was stated that atari would NOT be
> > working on getting X or anything like it working on the FALCON.
> 
> Just because atari doesn't do it doesn't mean it won't be done. There's no
> reason that a third party couldn't do an X port to the ST/TT/Falcon.
> 
> Indeed, I'm quite sure that X could be made to run under MiNT. I don't
> have time (or disk space!) to do the port, but I'd be happy to provide
> technical assistance to anyone or any group that does want to try it.

There's a 3rdparty company called "X/software" who did a port for the TT so
you can use your TT as X11-Terminal, in TT med color or TT high b/w resolution.
If you want more than a terminal, you can get a TT with ASV running X11/Motif,
but I recommend getting a 386 or 486 with Linux instead, it is much cheaper :)
BTW, the Falcon030 is definetly no machine (compared with 486, 68040 or RISC 
CPUs) with enough performance for Unix or X11.

Regards, Markus.

-- 
/dev                Markus Wenzel, University of Stuttgart
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: garth@splunge.uucp (Garth Wood)
Subject: Re: Fax number to Joppa
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:45:39 GMT

euaanu@eua.ericsson.se (Arto Nummelin) writes:

>Does anybody out there in netland know the fax number to Joppa?
>I would like to know since I've been thinking of
>ordering a fax modem from them.

>Thanks.
>/Arto

Arto:

Joppa's FAX number is (717) 428-0424, as stated in their STraight FAX!
manual (so if it's wrong, don't blame me...  8^> ).  Hope this helps.

Garth


-- 
Garth Wood          |  "A witty saying of some kind."
garth@splunge.uucp  |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: wmagro@uiuc.edu (William Magro)
Subject: Re: Sending file from CIS -> InterNet
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:16:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.083146.8035@ac.dal.ca> cordes@ac.dal.ca (John Cordes)  
writes:
:^) 
:^)  I'm wondering if someone on CompuServe can send a file to an InterNet
:^) address? Anybody know? 
:^) 

I think the best way would be to send mail _to_ compuserve and look at the  
return address.  Mail to compuserve can be addressed as:

35476.11@compuserve.com

for user 35476,11 for example.  Commas are replaced by periods.

--Bill