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From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: SCSI Cartridge ejecting (more on A/UX and Syquest)
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:27:29 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Oct7.101523.6128@alisa.com> denny@alisa.com (Bob Denny) writes:
>SOB! A/UX V3 doesn't properly release mounted Mac format SCSI (e.g.,
>SyQuest) carts. I was hoping they would fix it under 3.0, but no such luck.

Having just got rid of the last of three removable cartridge drives
since getting A/UX, I want to add a few comments for the benefit of
those who may just be thinking of setting up an A/UX system, as 
opposed to those like Bob who are trying to make the best of what
they have.  The examples are based on my experience with Syquests,
but the same thing goes (double, IMO) for the other removables 
such as 128 magneto-opticals, 20 meg flopticals, etc. that people 
often ask about in comp.unix.aux.

It is true that Syquest drives work under A/UX 3.0, but there is a 
big difference between working and working well.  I started out with
a minimal A/UX setup on fixed disk, with plans to mount user files
and /usr/local/* on two Syquests.  What I found, at least in the 
case of 44 meg drives, is that typical unix activities like running
tar and compress are extremely disk intensive, and that the Syquest
mechanism really isn't fast enough or robust enough (IMO) to take 
that kind of beating.  

The main reason that I used Syquests in the first place is for 
the convenience of being able to shuffle cartridges like floppies,
and to carry significant amounts of data back and forth to work.
These advantages are greatly diminished under A/UX:  MacOS 
cartridges can't be shuffled under A/UX, and travelling with
unix carts isn't of much use unless all the Macs you work with
run A/UX.

So ... for those who are planning an A/UX system ... use fast 
fixed disks for random access and tapes for archiving.  It's
cheaper on a $$/meg basis, and far more reliable.  A/UX 3.0
HD SC Setup supports third-party disks very nicely, so you can 
buy your SCSI just as cheaply for A/UX as you can for a Sun.
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: halpin@vsg1.dsg.dec.com (Stephen E. Halpin)
Subject: Re: A/UX 3.x and (non) Performa 600 CD
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:57:26 GMT

In article <81251@ut-emx.uucp> ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd) writes:
>
>  Can the new Performa 600 CD run A/UX 3.x?

It appears that the Performa 600 CD needs a version of System 7.1, so it
should not be possible to run A/UX 3.0 on it.  Given that it doesnt have
half the integer performance of a IIci (according to the MacWorld review)
I cant image it being anything less than painful under A/UX.

Is it me or does anyone else notice that Apple cuts the performance of their
new models by 40% from the old models?  The Mac may be easier to use than
Windows, but selling 20MHz 386sx performance for more than a loaded 66MHz
486DX2 with accelerated graphics leaves me uneasy with my current large
investment in Apple equipment.

>Another question:  Where is the A/UX FAQ posted?
>
>adTHANKSvance,
>
>-- 
>******* ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas R. Floyd) ******
>             (Insert standard disclaimer here)
>
>   I would rather have a frontal lobotomy than Windows NT!

Id rather have a 16 processor Sequent or one of the SGI 3D boxes which
have been demoed running Windows NT than any current Mac :->  It may look
like its drawn with a crayon, but make no mistake: NT is secure and robust.

-Steve
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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"You might just have to waste your life just to live."  - Soul Asylum
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Using Magneto Optical Drives under A/UX 3.0?
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 02:34:58 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


I have both a Panasonic and a SONY magneto optical read/write cartridge
drive. I would like to use them under A/UX. Under 2.0, I needed some
specical driver software which no longer works under 3.0. What are
my options now under 3.0?


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From: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: A/UX 3.x and (non) Performa 600 CD
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:32:10 GMT
Reply-To: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ifbb657@donald.cc.utexas.edu


  Can the new Performa 600 CD run A/UX 3.x?

Another question:  Where is the A/UX FAQ posted?

adTHANKSvance,

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             (Insert standard disclaimer here)

   I would rather have a frontal lobotomy than Windows NT!
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: ibacon@seamis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ian Bacon)
Subject: diskless A/UX?
Summary: can it be done?
Keywords: diskless booting of A/UX
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:46:15 GMT

Does anyone know if it is possible to boot A/UX disklessly (if there
is such a word)? If so, how do I go about doing it?
Thanks for any help
-- Ian --
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: disk-repair facility under A/UX?
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:18:55 GMT

m211037@regen.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Martin Heimann) writes:

>Dear colleagues:

>I have encountered a hard disk failure on one of the unix disk partitions.
>What unix utility does exist which allows to isolate and possibly repair
>or label as inaccessible the faulty disk blocks? (The utilities I have only 
>work for the mac-os partitions). Or do I have to start from scratch by 
>new initializing the disk?

You could always use 'badblk' on the partition. It's supposed to 1st try
to perform hardware sparing but I've never checked.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: spock@abraxas.adelphi.edu (Sven Dietrich)
Subject: Re: Dialup security using /etc/dialups and /etc/d_passwd - Syntax?
Organization: Adelphi University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:58:35 GMT

denny@alisa.com (Bob Denny) writes:

>In <1992Oct13.015816.1927@adx.adelphi.edu> 
>   spock@abraxas.abraxas.adelphi.edu (Sven Dietrich) writes:
>> [...]
>> while doing a 'strings /bin/login', I ran across some 'undocumented features'
>> of login. I found references to /etc/dialups and /etc/d_passwd ...
>> [...]
>According to "Unix System Security" by Rik Farrow, pp 119-120 (paraphrased):

>These 2 files indeed provide for a dialup password on a per-port basis.

>/etc/dialups has a list of ports for which you want to have dialup
>passwords, e.g.:

>/dev/tty10
>/dev/tty11

>/etc/d_passwd contains a set of entries associating a password with a
>particular login program (as specified in the last field of the user's
>/etc/passwd entry). e.g.:

>/bin/sh:h$fFsW0joDw2D:
>/bin/ksh:f30kDC4Fge5jf:
>/usr/lib/uucp/uucico::

>colon-separated, first field is the login program (shell, etc.) and the
>second is an encrypted password (same as in /etc/passwd. In the above
>example, sh and ksh are given separate dialup passwords, and any accounts
>using uucico (UUCP dialins) will not get asked for a dialup password.

>I have not tested this on A/UX... I am simply repeating the info from the
>book. It's a pretty good book. by the way...

Bob, 

   just tested it. It works on A/UX 3.0 ! 

Thanks,

Sven

PS: Wouldn't this be something for the FAQ? Jim, you listening?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: weigert@etlhit.etl.go.jp (Thomas Weigert)
Subject: Re: Video cards for A/UX (survey)
Reply-To: weigert@mcs.anl.gov
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba-shi, Japan
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:47:36 GMT

In article <9210110946.AA02795@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>
	ULMO031%FRORS12.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (Raynaud) writes:


AR> As I see lots of requests on the subject of finding a video card that is
AR> A/UX compatible, I would like to ask all the users of A/UX to tell their
AR> configuration and the problems they have with it.

AR> So, could you please mail to me (ULMO031@FRORS12, or AppleLink: RAYNAUD)
AR> this questionnaire :

AR> Name of the video card : VIKING 
AR> Size of the screen : 19"
AR> Computer : IIcx
AR> Does A/UX work with it : Y, after I received a new PAL from vendor
AR> Are there any problems with XmacII : Used X11R3 without any problems
AR> Is it possible to change depth during A/UX-MacOS session : Na
AR> Does QuickTime work with it : ?
AR> Possible depths with A/UX-MacOS : 1
AR> Possible depths with A/UX-XWindow : 1
AR> Does the extra functions (hard zoom,pivot...) work under A/UX : Na


The card came with my Viking Moniterm Monochrome monitor. First the monitor
would hang on boot. I contacted the vendor, and received a replacement PAL
within a few days. No problems since.

Thomas.

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From: shwake@nearside.UUCP (Raymond Shwake)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: A/UX 3.0 on IIx tries to write CD-ROMs!
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:23:08 GMT
Organization: A/C International

dominic@natcorp.ox.ac.uk (Dominic Dunlop) writes:

>Thoughts, anybody?

Well, I'm also using an Apple CD150 on my IIx, and run A/UX 3.0. Never
experienced anything like you described. Using the Apple SCSI terminator,
but my vendor didn't have the Apple SCSI cable, so I'm using a quality generic.
-- 

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jpm@cs.hut.fi (Jussi-Pekka Mantere)
Subject: Re: Fax Modems and A/UX
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:01:04 GMT

Robert Rainer <drwho@pandoras.path.med.ufl.edu> writes:

	      Now I would like to see if I can exploit the fax ability of
   my modem.

   ...								    does anyone 
   know of a unix program that will allow me to beam out faxes to the modem.

Check out "netfax" and "ghostscript" at your nearest GNU stuff ftp
archive.

IFF one has CAP running on the host, it _might_ even be possible to
"print" (ie. send) faxes using LaserWriter drivers...

Best Regards,

Jussi-Pekka Mantere
From: J.Pearce@cs.ucl.ac.uk (John Pearce)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: UUCP: uucheck and Permissions
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:06:53 GMT



After upgrading to bnu1.16 and creating a minimal set of files for uucp
with a Permissions file which just contained

LOGNAME=neighbour

So when neighbour called it could send email, but it couldn't pick up
email I had queued for it - this email would only be transfered when I
called neighbour.

uucheck -v reports

** LOGNAME PHASE (when they call us)

When a system logs in as: (neighbour)
        We DO NOT allow them to request files.
        We WILL NOT send files queued for them on this call.
        They can send files to
            /usr/spool/uucppublic (DEFAULT)
        Sent files will be created in /usr/spool/uucp
         before they are copied to the target directory.
        Myname for the conversation will be me.
        PUBDIR for the conversation will be /usr/spool/uucppublic.

I ammended the Permissions file to

LOGNAME=neighbour SENDFILES=yes

so that neighbour could pick up email that I had queued - and uucico
seems to function as per the entry in the Permissions file.

However, uucheck -v still reports

** LOGNAME PHASE (when they call us)

When a system logs in as: (neighbour)
        We DO NOT allow them to request files.
    ->  We WILL NOT send files queued for them on this call.
   |    They can send files to
   |        /usr/spool/uucppublic (DEFAULT)
   |    Sent files will be created in /usr/spool/uucp
   |     before they are copied to the target directory.
   |    Myname for the conversation will be me.
   |    PUBDIR for the conversation will be /usr/spool/uucppublic.
   |
   |
uucheck still doesn't seem to think the Permissions file is setup to
allow an incoming call from neighbour to pick up queued email.

Is uucheck broken - or have I interpreted the output incorrectly ?

Many thanks,

John Pearce.

jpearce@cs.ucl.ac.uk
From: ddv@unix.brighton.ac.uk (Domenico De Vitto)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: compiled bitblt on Quadras (68040s)
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:28:38 GMT
Organization: University of Brighton, UK

Can't the cache be turned off from the control panel ?
(I thought, for greater compatiblity)

Dom De Vitto
From: Saeedi@cup.portal.com (Steven J Saeedi)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Important!!! Please read!!
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 92 15:43:27 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <1992Oct5.202701.10082@ultra.com>

>In article <1992Oct1.215557.3689@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>, un032463@wvnvms.wvnet.edu 
w
>rites:
>|> To all who are interested!!!
>|> 

[...]

>|> I would share my experiences with ANYONE who has had a problem with the IIc
i
>'s
>|> SCSI bus.  Thanks to ALL who tried to help.  I really appreciate all of the
>|> info that I received!  Later!
>|> 
>|> 								Mike Manzo
>|> 						West Virginia University
>
>Yep, I've been there, sorta.  It probably isn't so much the cable length but
>the dang cable itself.  With all the devices I've got on my SCSI bus, I can't
>go using 6 footers everywhere without going wacko on bus length.  I've tried
>to keep'em all as short as possible, usually three or two footers between
>devices.  I haven't found a one-footer yet, though I know some vendors make
>them.  But what I did find out in my SCSI cable travels is that all cables
>are not created equal.  Right out of the plastic, some cables I've bought
>have given me very flaky behaviour on the bus, with a typical cumlmination
>in the Mac crashing.  Usually its the cheapo cables I tried to save a few
>bucks on.
>
>Moral: Spend the money for good SCSI cables, and even then, be prepared to
>try two or three till things work properly.

Also, it wouldn't hurt to have a SCSI Passthru terminator every 1 or 3 meters,
as I can't remmeber the specs right now.
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From: reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner)
Subject: Does anyone have Gnus working?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:48:53 GMT

Has anyone installed Gnus under Emacs 18.57.1 on A/UX 3.0? I know that
NNTP is working fine, since other users are using trn to get news from
a remote system, but every time I fire up Gnus, it returns "nntp:
connection closed." I've tried both of the solutions described in the
"Problems" section of the installation manual, but neither changed
things. Any ideas?

Reuven
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: Strange finder problem
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:06:24 GMT

coolidge@sirius.aux.apple.com (John L. Coolidge) writes:

>dswartz@redondo.sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber) writes:
>>Here's a weird one which seems to happen occasionally.  I create a file
>>under unix.  When I use the finder to click on the icon for the folder
>>containing that file, the file's icon doesn't appear.  The finder search
>>command (command-f) doesn't seem to locate it either.  What gives?

>This happens to me a lot with Compactor self-extracting archives. What
>seems to be happening is that fcnvt is creating the file with the
>'Invisible' file flag set. This means that the finder, standard file,
>etc., won't show the file. You can fix it with ResEdit (I think) or
>other file-manipulation programs that show invisible files. 

Of course, 'setfile' will enable/disable the Invisible flag as well...
-- 
    Jim Jagielski               | "It is not I who am crazy...
    jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov   |  it is I who am MAD!"
    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Subject: Re: SCSI Cartridge ejecting
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 02:05:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.101523.6128@alisa.com> denny@alisa.com (Bob Denny) writes:
>SOB! A/UX V3 doesn't properly release mounted Mac format SCSI (e.g.,
>SyQuest) carts. I was hoping they would fix it under 3.0, but no such luck.
>Dragging it into the trash dismounts it, but it won't physically spin down.
>I assume that there is a command that needs to be sent to the drive to tell
>it to permit spin-down so that the cart can be changed. 

Even if this problem was fixed, to my knowledge there is no way 
to *mount* another MacOS volume, so the fix wouldn't buy very much.
(HFSMount didn't work, and utilities like SCSI Probe crash the Finder.)

>As in 2.0.x, using
>Unix-format carts is no problem, though the driver does NOT lock the cart
>in, so it is possible to spin down and remove a mounted cart. UGH! 

Never noticed this ... in order to dismount and spin down a cartridge 
containing a unix file system, I first had to make sure that no process 
was using it (no open files or working directories) then issue the 
appropriate "umount" command.  Otherwise umount returns "device busy".  

(If pressing the "spin-down button" does spin down a mounted cartridge 
that would be a problem, of course.  It never occurred to me to try.)
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: CSL/IP login program
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:17:09 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Oct10.210031.11542@pony.Ingres.COM> (comp.unix.aux), tyler@Ingres.COM (Rick Tyler) writes:
> Somebody recently posted an ftp address for a program which connects to 
> a CSL/IP server (via modem) and does the necessary magic to run CSL/IP
> under A/UX.  I somehow managed to lose the ftp address and can't access
> the original article(s).  Could someone please email me the ftp address?
> I think the file was called:
> 
> 	upsl0.tar.uu
> 
> Also, I seem to recall someone reporting that the original contained
> carriage returns instead of newlines.  Has this been fixed or can someone
> repeat the incantation to fix it?

ftp ftp.msen.com
cd /pub/aux
get upsl0.tar.uu


The file had a problem in that CR's were put in place of NL's, but I
have fixed this problem, so you should have no difficulties installing.

tim.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: pdennis@hfsi.uucp (WIS Program Group )
Subject: Re: problems with login 
Keywords: login failure
Reply-To: pdennis@hfsi.UUCP (WIS Program Group )
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:07:07 GMT

In article <ibacon.719074877@seamis1> ibacon@seamis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Ian Bacon) writes:
>I am having a problem with my login under A/UX. Basically, the 
>login halts with the dialog box that says that a session is being
>set up for me, and will not complete unless I hit a return. It almost
>seems as though the system is asking a question that I cannot see, 
>and waits for input.
>Has anyone else experienced this? Does anyone have an answer to the 
>problem?
>Any help much appreciated.
>
>-- Ian --

We have just run into this problem over the past two days on two different
systems.  I'm not sure that hitting the return actually solved the problem
though.  I believe that someone in our office is going to notify Apple about
this sometime today.

Phil Dennis  HFSI WIS Program Group (703) 827-3564
	     email pdennis@hfsi.com
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: Device Drivers Manual for A/UX 3.0
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:07:42 GMT

chrisb@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Chris Barrus) writes:


>Is there a new Device Drivers manual for A/UX 3.0?  I have the manual for
>A/UX 2.0 and it isn't adequate enough.  Part # and ordering info would
>be cool too.

Not yet... it's still in the works.
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    NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4       |
    Greenbelt, MD 20771         |            - Ren
From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: HELP:  Need 3.0 Hard drive recommendation
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:38:45 GMT
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <AAROND.92Oct14095346@xibm.StorTek.com> (comp.unix.aux), aarond@xibm.StorTek.com (Aaron Dailey) writes:
> platters and heads, higher density).  Although Maxtor has had poor
> quality, our impression was that they now have some aggressive quality
> improvement programs.  We have using several prototypes for the last
> couple months and have had no problems.

Absolutely, MAXTOR drives had *serious* quality problems.

I am sure they have programs in place to increase quality, any management
team not braindead would do so, the question is how far has quality
progressed to date?

This question is more serious for the larger drives.

> Granted, these tiny drives are not the ones you want for AUX, but I
> think they're maybe worth another look.
> 
> I don't have any relationship with Maxtor, other than a couple friends
> that work there (down the road), and as a customer.

I have had several WREN drives from Imprimis, now SeaGate, and have
been very happy with them. Good performance, good realiability.

tim.


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