HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mliu@pt.com (Fred Liu)
Subject: Use your judgement
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:53:26 GMT


Somebody has asked what are the rules for posting on SCC.
I am not a police officer on the net and should not
enforce any rule.  But I would like to give you some of
my thoughts.

I think the rules are more in your mind than enforced by
some authority.  When you live in a community, you must
follow some commonly accepted rules, or we call them
custom.  Nobody would tell you what you should do or
what you should not do.  Use your best judgement when
you do something.  You would not wear swimsuit to go to
a concert.  You could do that, and you would probably
be kicked out.  You could also not dress up when you go
to your company's Christmas party.  This time, you would
not be kicked out, but do you feel that you are following
the rules?

The reason I suggested not posting puzzles, pictures, etc.
was not because I don't like puzzles.  I like to solve
puzzles, though not quite well.  And I like to display
pictures on my workstation's background.  I pointed that
out because according to my judgement, those things
should not be posted on SCC.  There are more appropriate
news groups for those purposes.  Since network bandwidth
is a "shareware", people should post related things to
appropriate news groups.  I think that's why we design
so many different news groups with different purposes,
otherwise one single "general" news group would be
enough.

In my opinion, SCC should be a network for discussions
of things related to China or Chinese culture.  Even
something that is related is not welcome.  For instance,
people kicked out a "talk.politics.china" news group
for talking China's politics.

Many people reading this news group like solving puzzles,
which is not bad.  But obviously this is not a group
for puzzles and math questions.  If you do post those
things, nobody can prevent you from doing that, but you
are telling people that you are not considering the
purpose of this news group.

The cleanest news group must be "misc.jobs.resumes",
occasionally there are some "apologies".  Why? job
seekers don't like resume readers think they are
rule violators.

-- 
Fred Liu, Performance Technologies Incorporated		mliu@pt.com
315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620		uupsi!ptsys1!mliu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
From: bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin)
Subject: Re: Bosnia Rape, What Could the World Do?
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:07:04 GMT

In article <BznAqx.4sG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>
>The following is a horrible story article from NYT. It reads much
>like what I read about "The Rape of Nainjing".
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>	Copied without permission from:
> 	The New York Times OP-ED Sunday, December 13, 1992
>
>	Rape After Rape After Rape
>
>	ZAGREB, Croatia.  What is happening in Bosnia and Herzegovina to 
     
   I didn't finish reading it, because I just DON't BELIEVE IT IS TRUE!

   If people in that country(former Yogoslavia) can commit this kind of
crime, I can't trust the woman who told the story.....

YY
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: sosc1069@highway.yorku.ca (Ming He)
Subject: Qi Gong experiment from QingHua Univ., Beijing
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Comp. Sci.  York Univ.  Toronto
	<C0ApnK.5yH@ulowell.ulowell.edu> <105976@bu.edu>
	<1993Jan3.220853.4205@vax.cns.muskingum.edu>
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:40:58 GMT

A group of professionals at QingHua Univ. has conducted an experiment
about exceptional abilities (te4 yi4 gong1 neng2).

There is a vedio showing that a special person can drag iron wire from
a sealed glass bottle without breaking it.  Is this believable?

I was told Yan2 Xin1 also cooperate with this group of professionals
in an experiment to change the structure of water to something useful
by his magic force.  I did not hear any successful report yet.

There are reports that there are such special mankind world around.
Some of them were used for the war.


--
Ming He                                   sosc1069@reader.yorku.ca
From Beijing, China.  Like to watch to the transference of data.
From: aghanda3@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Airplane Tickets for sale: CA -> FLL
Date: 27 Dec 92 13:19:18 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services


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				    from San Diego)
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	Carrier:   Continental Airline
	Time:      Jan. 4, 1993 and rescheduable
	Price:     $155 or the best offer

	If interested, please call (714) 854-6278 or reply to this account.	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: becker@shell.portal.com (CELIA TONY BECKER)
Subject: Re: About the pretty girl
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 09:21:38 GMT

Dear Wang Luo;

I just thought I would wish you a Happier New Year, and to say I hope
to see you again at the FDC-CAD convention at the end of January.

I also understand your feelings expressed in your posting.  My own have
been somewhat similar, from similar recent experiences with our friends
in FDC.  I do still believe that some day, maybe even in our lifetime, 
the Chinese people--including certain future leaders--will improve. 
China will then be respected as a great leader as it earns such respect
by becoming cooperative and fair with all decent nations.

Good luck, and please remember your non-Chinese friend in the U.S..

Cecilia L. Fabos-Becker--Lin Xing.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Humphrey Hui)
Subject: Re: Looking Back From 2992 - The disastrous 21st century
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 04:01:51 GMT

wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang) writes:


>The year 2992 --- almost a thousand years from now?  At that time, the
>`disastrous 21st century' will be ancient history.  I wonder how much
>sense the names `China', `Japan' etc. will make to people then, and
>how many people will care about them.

Will mankind still exist? Hmmmm... I doubt that!


-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------
Humphrey Hui                     : Legends can't live long!
HHUI@basil.eng.monash.edu.au     :
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: becker@shell.portal.com (CELIA TONY BECKER)
Subject: Re: Mongolia
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 11:35:56 GMT

In response to my previous article, Yifan Gu (ygu@eve.eng.uci.edu) writes:

>Some of these words sound like ABC/NBC/CBS news. 

I don't know whether to laugh or feel insulted.  A long time ago, some of
the major networks in Minnesota used to follow me around at political
conventions because they knew I was about to grill several politicians
and would ask far more creative questions than they were prepared to.
I have never been employed by any news organization that I know of.

>I came from mainland China. Never in my life (21 yrs in mainland)
>I heard anyone talking about "taking over Mongolia" when I was in China.  
>The fact that Mongol had been (sort of) part of China was vaguely reminded
>only in casual conversations. 

>Believe me, Chinese people do have a strong sense of fairness; not less 
>than any other people, I believe.

>We need to study democacy. No doubt about it; so does 
>every body in this world.

>I respect the idea of democacy when I hear it from intelectulls 
>that I respect, but I have strong suspicion when it came out the 
>mouth of politicians and ABC/BBC/NBC/CNN/CBS.

What kind of intellectuals do you respect--only Chinese?  Have you ever
studied U.S. or West European history?  I have studied these, as well as 
East Asian, South Asian and Latin American history.  As for being a
politician:  I have never held a public office or appointment.  Many years
ago I helped rebuild the DFL (Democratic-Farmer-Labor--in Minnesota the 
Democrats merged with the largest Socialist party).  However, many of 
my mother's families have been statesmen for centuries, and frankly I'm
darned proud of some of them.  Two members of my mother's family helped
draft and signed the U.S. constitution, and several more gave their lives
fighting the imperial British.   In short, my mother's family helped create
the longest lived--and most successful--representative democracy in the world
which has protected and educated many from far less humane nations--including
China.  By the way, my late mother herself fought the imperial Japanese in
China in WWII as a yeoman in the United States Navy.

This is enough background and history.  You and your friends should know who
I am by now.  Just ask some of the longer-term members at ACSSS or UCBCSSA.
Now take a break from the computer and go out and enjoy the holiday season.
----Celia (Lin Xing).
From: z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Import/Export Research
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:20:41 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hello all,

	We are doing research on various items that international countries
would be interested in exporting and importing.  The items can consist of
anything from clothing to large machines.  Of course, they must be a legal
product to enter and exit the different countries.  These are some questions 
that we are trying to find the answers to:
 
1.) How would we gather information concerning the legal regulations on
	shipping to China? 

2.) Who would an individual contact in that country about shipping
	requirements?  

3.) What kind of licences or paper work does a company need to enter
	that foreign market place?


I really would appreciate any help concerning this matter.  Thank you very
much for your time and hope to hear from you soon.




Sincerely,


Ron Ables

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Internet Addresses:
			z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
       			    
				   or
			   
			   sfa1@jetson.uh.edu

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:27:51 EST
From: <B7D@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: The answer to the 13 balls problem

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: The answer to the 13 balls problem
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:31:15 GMT

>In article <9212200346.AA01471@thames.bu.edu> lix@crsa.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
writes:
>>
>>Hint: In 2-B, you can have three possibilities instead of only two, namely:
>>
>>1) Balanced, 2) unbalanced as in the first unbalance, 3) unbalanced but
>>the unbalance is reversed as in the first unbalance.
>>
>>Of course in order to get these three possibilities you need mark a potential
>>odd ball and move it to the other side:-)

>In 2-B, it means the odd ball is among the 4 4 group. I'll denominate
>the balls as A,B,C,D,E,F,G,H,I,J,K,L,M. First time I'll scale:
>A+B+C+D v E+F+G+H, If they are not balanced, then the odd ball is one
>of them. Then I'll scale:
>A+B+C+E+F v H+I+J+K+L+M, Then there are three cases as you discribed
>above.
>Case 1. The odd ball is among D,G,H.
>Case 2. means it is among A,B,C. Case 3 means it is among E,F.
>Then there shouldn't be any problem to pick up the ball.
>Thanks

>Tingli Pan

     It's really not necessary to mark every ball from first 4 4 unbalancing
     situation. Instead, only important information from the first measurement
     for the subsquent reasoning is that a ball selected is from which group of
     4 balls, H(heavy) side or L(light) side? or from group of 5N(normal) balls
     By checking 3H+2L <---> 5N, one can easily decide whether the odd one is
     one of 3H or 2L on the left side, or one of unused 1H and 2L.

    Duane
From: huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: old man cross river
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:19:25 AET
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

In article <31DEC199215440944@elroy.uh.edu>, math1pu@elroy.uh.edu (Luo, Youngping) writes:

> Here is one for you:
> 
> With one single match you walk into a dark room in which you are told there is
> a candle, a fireplace, a lantern, and the oven.  Which do you light first?
>

Answer: The match
 
> Can you find anything such that the longer it leaks, the more water it gets?
>
 
Answer: boats, ships (if they are on water), tunnels under water...

> Which song is the most-recorded ever?
>

Answer: Over and over
 
> ...........
> 
> Yl
>
From: zjzhao@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Z.J.Zhao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:37:24 GMT
Reply-To: zjzhao@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Z.J.Zhao)
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania




This is a test.
From: W_XIAO@unhh.unh.edu (Wei   Xiao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Need Help from folks in U. of Arkansas
Date: 30 Dec 1992 02:15:05 GMT
Organization: E.E. Dept., U.of New Hampshire
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unhh.unh.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

To folks in U. of Arkansas:

My friend (original USTC 8815) Mr. Xue is goona arrive at Littlerock on Jan. 3
attending U. of Arkansas majoring in C.S.. He needs to find a *right* place to 
stay which is fit to his budget and life style.

Mr. Xue is a mature and easy-going person with whom you can get along in no 
time.

If you can lend a hand in the spirit of this holiday, please drop me a email
to my personal account no later than New Year's day.

Thanks for your attention.
From: an3879@anon.penet.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Negroes
Date: 27 Dec 92 16:53:08 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.china

I have been watching the images from somolia on TV recently
and I noticed one thing.  The black people in Somolia actually
had facial and other body features that made them more like
human beings than the black people that lives in the United
States (mostly of the Negro race).  The Somolians seems to
have narrower noses and did not seem to sway from sided to
side when they walked.  The Negroes on the other hand have
large wide noses with huge round nostrils which makes them
look like gorrilas.  And when the Negroes walk they seem to
sway from side to side like gorrilas do when they walk.

I have noticed this difference among Chinese too.  It seems 
like that the Chinese from the more civilized part of China
seem to have narrower noses whereas the Chinese from the
less developed part of China seem to have large flat noses
with huge round nostrils similiar to that of the Negroes.

Also have you noticed that all of the movie stars from Hong
Kong, Taiwan, and Japan seem to have small narrow noses.  This
could only mean that civilized society as a whole subconciously
believes that large flat noses with huge round nostrils are 
ugly and are associated with lower forms of life and gorrilas.

Also, have you noticed that the artists' perception of the 
cave man and prehistoric man that you always see in Museums
and science books always show the primitive man as having
wide, flat noses with huge round nostrils.

Also, have you noticed that Michael Jackson keeps getting
plactic surgery to shrink his nose and make it more narrow.
Have you noticed that when Michael Jackson was young, he
had a huge flat nose with huge round gorrila like nostrils?
This means that even, Michael Jackson himself was forced by
the civilized society into believing that the huge flat nose
with huge round gorrila nostrils is ugly.



  
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: Is Taiwanese CHinese?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:41:36 GMT

In article <105406@bu.edu> gyu@bass.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu) writes:
>In article <BzE3BC.FG7@ecf.toronto.edu> huangs@ecf.toronto.edu (HUANG SUNG CHING) writes:
>>
>>      There are also a number of people from Mainland China in this group of
>>discussion.  Some of them are evidently pro-CCP from their arguments and 
>>comments.  I have a feeling that it must be a CCP plot to have them infiltrate
>>here and fuel disharmony and discontent among people from Taiwan by bring 
>>about issues that does not concern them, i.e. Independence.  It is for us
>>to decide, not them.
>
>Should I say "Some of them are evidently pro-(DPP) from their arguments and 
>comments.  I have a feeling that it must be a (DPP) plot to have them 
>infiltrate here and fuel disharmony and discontent among people from Taiwan".
>I am very glad I am now living in the territory of USA which guarantee the 
>right of free speach by the constitution. Taiwan's future is decided by 
>the whole Taiwan people, but that dosn't mean other people can't discuss 
>this issue. May be you can say Somalia problem does not concern American, 
>Iraq does not concern American either. 
>
>Make some points if you feel having something to say next time. Block 
>people's mouth and deprive people's free speach right are used to be CP's
>copywrite. Don't take any legacy that not belongs to you. I am sure you 
>are not among the beneficiaries of the CP. 
>
>-Guo-Xiang Yu

Indeed.  

But sometimes I observe that people on the extreme ends(both left & right)
political spectrum have similar behavior and way of thinking, the only
difference is the words they use and the things they are against, their
methods and arguments  are quite the same.  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin)
Subject: Re: Newwer China
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:30:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.153148.4587@cbfsb.cb.att.com> ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu) writes:
>In article <C03GM9.82G@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes:
>>
>>     I'm very sure, on the issur of HongKong and France, the Chinese
>> government  have the support of most, if not all Chinese.A
>
>	I read it somewhere that people in the special economic zone
>	near HK is in favor of Patten's reform in a survey.

	Even a large number of HK people don't surport, how dare you say
   "people in special economic zone surport"??? You will never be able
   to tell us what is the "somewhere"!
>	Would you still be so certain of your perception of your people
>	when they are given the chance of being better informed of the
>	outside world?

  Tell you, they know too much, they even know something people living
  outside don't know, they have been informed too much information like
  your "somewhere". 
>
>	Are you in favor of MFN status to China? How is that compare
>	to Chinese government's use of economic measure as a political
>	tool and not putting people's wellfare first?

   In your mind, everything the Chinese Government want to do is guilty,
  is for their own personal purposes. you are hopeless!

   You'd better follow your British masters to go back home after 1997,
  that's good for you.

>
>Yung-Kao Hsu
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Ming-Wa@CSC.mgate1.cuhk.hk (Ming Hua)
Subject: testing
Organization: Computer Services Centre, C.U.H.K.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 08:09:03 GMT

This is a testing.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:33683 soc.culture.hongkong:16695 soc.culture.taiwan:16626
From: han@eddy.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Hang Zhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Job Opportunities!
Date: 31 Dec 1992 04:25:08 GMT
Organization: Brown University Center for Fluid Mechanics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: eddy.cfm.brown.edu




     Two positions are available at Gifford Fong Associate, Inc.
The ideal person should have a MS in Applied Math or Computer Science.

   SKILL REQUIREMENT: 

        Be familiar with C++ programming language,
   MS window or X-window,  Database and SQL.  ---  Salary competitive !!

Gifford Fong Associate is a financial institution which provides sophistiated
softwares for trading and also consults the major Banking/Insurance companies.
      
     Interested person should send his/her RESUME to 


           Recruiting Personnel
           Gifford Fong Associate
           1600 Riviera Ave
           Wanut Creek, CA 94596

Attn:  PLEASE DO NOT REPLY to this account, I am only posting for 
       a friend of mine!
 



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wshi@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Weiping Shi)
Subject: Re: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
Keywords: Qi Gong
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:44:48 GMT

In <wangf.726102834@unixg.ubc.ca> wangf@unixg.ubc.ca (Frank Wang) writes:

>I remember on netter said that when Yan was asked about
>the scientic proof aobut his claims (molecule change of the water
>he qi'ed), he was rather angry.  ...

When I attended his performance, he said that he can offer a proof
that he can stop a human's heart beating.  Any one dares
to test?  Never mind why he didn't offer to stop an animal's heart.

In fact, even if everything Yan Xin said were true, it is not
a proof that his method works.  Person A and person B did what he said
and worked doesn't mean what he said works with higher than random
probability for other people,  because there might be person
C, D, E and F died after trying his method.  What Yan Xin need to show,
as required by all experimental sciences, is a statistical proof that for
two groups of people with idential condition, the group using his method
survived or whatevered with a statistically significant probability
than the other group.  It is easy to see this statistical test
is necessary, because for any method, we can always find some people
they "tried" the method then "worked", by coincidence.
From: wangz@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Wangz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for computer nets in China
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:20:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Centre, University of Tokyo

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for computer-nets in China
Distribution: 
--$B0J2<$KK\J8$r5-=R$7$F2<$5$$(J($B$3$N9T:o=|IT2D(J)--
   Is there anyone who knows if there is a computer network in 
China that can be attached internationally? If so, can you 
teach me the node address or any other related information?

        Thanks in advance and Happy New Year!
--
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: lee@umunhum.stanford.edu (Fung Fung Lee)
Subject: Re: Looking Back From 2992 - The disastrous 21st century
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 01:39:43 GMT

In article <C06xyJ.5pp@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (jupiter) writes:
>
>My guess is that the other major power would be Brazil.
>
>

The other new great power was the oil-rich Muslims.

-FFL

--
Fung F. Lee
lee@umunhum.stanford.edu
~{@n7c7e~}
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Two puzzles
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:04:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <Bzo3LI.DG3@cs.psu.edu> echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng) writes:
>	The real question associated with this famous problem is how
>many people have attempted and successed to solve it by series 
>summation method?

The summation is an infinite series, so no one can solve it in their 
life time ;-)

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wayneh@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Wayne Huang)
Subject: Looking for classmates of Tianjin 16th Middle School
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:09:00 GMT

Looking for old classmates from No. 16 Middle School, Tianjin, who graduated in 1979.

Please send your mail to wayneh@oakhill.sps.mot.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china