From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Subject: Re: rec.radio.info and .shortwave
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:28:45 GMT

julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey) writes:

>In article <1993Jan25.021331.15608@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9248086@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Matthew Daniels) writes:
>>As I suspected, information pertinent to this newsgroup is showing up in
>>the rec.radio.info group and not in here.  I am not happy that I now have
>>to read both groups and sift through a great deal of information that is
>>NOT useful to me (I am not a ham, or a cb person).  This is very time
>>consuming and inconvient.  I would appreciate it if info stuff could be
>>posted here if it is relevant.


>	I often point out when people with personal whims want to
>fracture a group "For their convenience". If you make a sub group, it
>just means we have another group to wade through. God it's tiresome.
>Then what do we do when the moderators and originators of these "new
>and improved" groups go away?

Rec.radio.info is an "inclusive" newsgroup, and does not do any
fracturing of any heirarchy.  If you don't like it, why are you reading
it?  You're not getting any information that isn't found in the
newsgroups you're reading already.  A very important condition of most
netter's support for r.r.i was that it would be transparent to anyone
who didn't want to read it.  Reading it can only benefit you by
providing a filtered presentation of just the information.

Mark Salyzyn has had years of experience on the net (he remembers
A-News) and runs his own UUCP site.  I don't think he will be going away
anytime soon.  If he does, I'm sure a new moderator can be easily found
(heck, I'd even volunteer).

>	Of course re the wrecked.radio.info group. I note a fair
>amount of duplication from wrecked.radio.amateur.missed. Is it cross
>posted so my newsreader dumps it? No, it is double posted so I have to
>hit the N key. Geez - Soo convenient.

Mark and his various co-moderators/submitters are doing their darndest
to get everyone to cross-post information up-front.  As you might guess,
this is easier for things like FAQ's, less easy for one-off stuff that
gets posted to the discussion groups.  Not everyone is going to be aware
of rec.radio.info, and even if they are, not everyone is going to use it
(The ideal solution is for everyone to send info to Mark, who will then
simultaneously cross-post it to all relevant newsgroups, but time delays
and mistrust of the moderation process sometimes discourages people from
doing this).  Hence the occasional reposting of information sometimes
(and rec.radio.info is still very much a low-volume newsgroup).

I'm pretty much the one responsible for passing on the information
culled from r.r.a.m.  The rec.radio.broadcasting moderator summarizes
interesting information and topics from rec.radio.shortwave without much
complaint, we were simply following precedent.  I'd rather see a few
pieces of information reposted rather than have them disappear into the
noise because the original poster either didn't know about
rec.radio.info, or didn't want to use it.

And as always, I must emphasize that posting to another newsgroup is not
the best way to get Mark's attention.  Drop him a line at
rec-radio-request@ve6mgs.ampr.ab.ca and voice your concerns.

Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu