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From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Subject: Re: The dark half
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:52:46 GMT
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In article <Bt8opB.Iss@acsu.buffalo.edu> acscehw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ELIOT WINER) writes:
>
>I agree with what you said about the Dark Half being a more action driven
>book, but change is a good thing.  I find it amazing that King can write
>in such different manners.  If he were to write with the same style and intent
>in every work he would have quickly faded out.  It is his ability to change
>and never let his audience know what to expect from a book, page, or a line
>of text.

Bravo! I've said it before, and I'll say it again--
People who say "I don't like King's style of writing..." have obviously
not read very much of King's writing! A couple of months ago I posted an
article listing many different King books and the basic type of book they
are (Gore, Fairy Tale, Eerie simply because it *COULD* happen very easily...)
It was rather long, but I was trying to show that King is a VERY diverse
writer. He does have a writing style, I suppose, with the words that he
chooses, and the way he puts his sentances together, but he by no means
"only writes one type of stories.".

>The Dark Half is what got me started on King also.  Since then I have read
>just about everyone of his books.  Granted there are similarities in alot
>of the works but there are also glaring differences.  These changes in stories,
>themes, and descriptions are what keep us all going back for more Stephen King.

For me, it was Salem's Lot-- because Vampires fascinate me-- a little
over a year ago. Since then, I have read every one of his novels, and
I have trouble choosing my favorite, because they are all so different.

Anyway, on to other things...

Meow...
Misti
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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: It <-> The Shining connection ?
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:56:08 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <BssDCJ.9n3@cs.dal.ca> falkenha@ug.cs.dal.ca (Craig R. Falkenham) writes:
>I'm re-reading IT (comparing it to the just re-aired mini-series) and noticed
>something.  When Mike Hanlon's father is telling the story of the fire at
>the Black Spot in one of the Derry Interludes, he mentions that he was saved
>from the fire by a black chef named Dick Halloran (sp?).  Halloran grabbed
>It's been awhile since I read The Shining, but wasn't the black cook at the
>Overlook Hotel who was psychic named Dick Halloran?  If so, it's yet another
>cross-over by King.

Yes, I believe Dick Halloran was the black cook at the Overlook, and I think
you have the spelling right, too!
					Laurel

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From: a909486@tiuk.ti.com (Julian Jones         (0032  jzj))
Subject: Re: Barker...Which one?
Reply-To: a909486@tiuk.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments Ltd.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 11:21:45 GMT


    On the subject of the best Barker novel, it has to be The Great and Secret Show.
A classic by any standards. The only problem is, if you read that first you'll be
disappointed by Weaveworld and the other stuff (which is brilliant but not as good as
TGASS). I'm just starting Imajica and it looks like another great story



Julian Jones Texas instruments UK
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Sex and Horror
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:55:09 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug20.101846.638@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at> J1300DAF@vm.univie.ac.at writes:
>------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
>Path: news.univie.ac.at!paladin.american.edu!darwin.sura.net!mips!sdd.hp.com!ux1
>In article <1992Aug19.092319.23281@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>, J1300DAF@vm.univi
>>     - Oliver
>
>Wow!  FAscinating thoughts here, Oliver.  I'd never considered your theory
>existence.  In the end this suggests to me that sex is absolutely *not*
>something to fear, but also *not* something that we should let take us over
>, either.
>Further thoughts?
>Andrea @ BVC
>
>find sex very closely associated with violence and pain. That's okay
>by me, because sex (especially good sex) in fact IS frightening and
>just a heartbeat away from violence. (And I am NO member of the
>SM department|||) Barker simply goes one step further than "normal"
>relationships: he takes the step from passion to pain (like
>some other authors did before, like de Sade)
>     - Oliver

Oliver, I find these ideas very interesting. When you think about what one
actually _does_ during sex (with or without S&M) it _is_ rather frightening. I
am getting toward the end of "Gerald's Game" and I realize now that what you
are saying here about Barker applies to King with this book: he has also taken
the step from passion to pain (though not as far as Barker sometimes does). I
don't remember King having any of his other characters doing anything in the
way of S&M. Or did I miss something or forget something somewhere?

				Laurel
  
 
 

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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Graham Masterton (was James Herbert)
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:32:57 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <jpurlia-110892151218@129.46.5.45> jpurlia@qualcomm.com (John Purlia) writes:
>In article <4629@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A
>Povazan) wrote:
>> 
>> In article <jpurlia-070892161821@129.46.5.45> jpurlia@qualcomm.com (John Purlia) writes:
>> >In article <1992Aug07.214401.25142@news.mentorg.com>,
>> >gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> In article <3244@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther) writes:
>Have any recommendations on Hutson?  Not that I want to get grossed out, I
>just like discovering new authors.  Of course, when I'll have the time to
>get through my growing stack of unread books is anyone's guess!

I liked "Slugs" and "Breeding Ground" the best so far, but I am into
nauseating horror as well as the other kinds, so if you are opposed to it, I
wouldn't read the above two! I have the same problem only with stacks of
unread books as opposed to just one or two!

			Laurel

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Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
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                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
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From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Re:John Saul (was Dean Koontz...)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 18:23:21 EDT

In article <1992Aug11.125752.1799@bvc.edu> frantz@bvc.edu writes:

>A public apology seems to be in order here.  You're absolutely right, Ken.  
>It is a Robin Cook book I'm talking about.  I think I hadn't had my 
>Wheaties yet when I posted that last comment.  Sorry to all you John Saul 
>fans out there.  I really meant to be bashing Robin Cook.
>
>Egg on my face--Andrea @ BVC

	
	But I still detest John Saul. And Robin Cook ain't no treat,
	either.

	Darin Powell
	Syracuse University
From: rac@calmasd.Prime.COM (Russ Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Pet Sematary 2 2 2 2 2!!!
Keywords: Is this a joke!!!
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:48:52 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA


   I was just out to lunch, and I heard a promo. for SK's Pet Sematary II,
   and I almost went nutso. I know that Stephen had nothing to do w/ this
   one, and I almost wanted to rip the stereo, (but it's a $500 dollor CD
   player so I didn't). Well the date they said for the sneak preview was
   Aug. 24th!                                                          


   -[Russ.
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From: 10713166@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (ROHAN TREGEAR)
Subject: Re: Shaun Hutson
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:42:35 GMT

In article <sprooney.713574984@unix1.tcd.ie> sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney) writes:
>
>>>        If there is someone out there who is looking for a book with a bit 
>>>of guts, you should try something by Shaun Hutson. Its pretty hard to find  
>>>his books in the shops and you can forget about the local library because it 
>>>is mostly pretty graphic and pretty weird. I can recommend these
>>>       EREBUS
>>>       SHADOWS
>
>>I was able to borrow "Slugs" from a library in California through our
>>interlibrary loan system at the University of Pittsburgh. I haven't tried to
>>borrow others though because I found the publisher in "Books in Print" and
>>ordered everything Hutson has written that they had. I ordered my own copy of
>>"Slugs", "Erebus", "Shadows", "Spawn", and "Skull". They did not have
>>"Breeding Ground" which I used to have but lent to someone and never got it
>>back. I am still looking for another copy of it. Definitely try "Slugs" and
>>"Breeding Ground" if you'd like to have a good nauseating read!
>
>I don't know if it was a once off, but I read 'Nemesis' by him, and
>it was CRAP! OK, so it had guts (hehe), but the story was awful.
>Since then, I haven't erad anything else by him (I won the book in a
>competition), and I doubt I will without decent proof that he's
>better.
>
>IOSnm

	Yeah, "Nemesis" is definately the weekest of his books, try 
"Victims" or anything else. I never claimed he was a literary genius, but 
hey, enjoy!

 - Trigger
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Subject: Re: Another whinge about King movies
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:19:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <10713166.12.713673033@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10713166@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (ROHAN TREGEAR) writes:
>Scatman Crothers was pretty good, Danny was OK, but where in fuck did they 
>pull Shelley Duvall from. Call me sexist (no doubt many will - I don't care) 
>but I pictured Wendy as a *good-looking*, *together* woman (maybe, in 
>keeping with my current attitude, that should be babe, or chick). Shelley 
>Duvall was a skinny, ugly, whining, ugly, shrieking, ugly, mess of a bitch. 
>I have yet to see this scrag in any other films (I watch my share, but maybe 
>they're the wrong ones) so it wasn't as if she was a big star or anything. 
>Did they cast her as a favour to someone? Aw, I don't know.
>	Much as been said about It lately - apparently it has just been 
>shown on the tele in th US, yes? - and I must also add my disappointed 
>voice. It seemed to me that they filmed the first hour-and-a-half then 
>looked at the screenplay/book/whatever and said, "Fuck, we havn't even 
>started yet...", and consequently attempted to squeeze the remainder of the 
>novel into the last hour or so. In doing so they cheated on the story in 
>many places and left people who havn't read the book scratching their heads 
>saying "wha...".
>	Now, Christine, *there* was a movie. Disagree again if you will but 
>ever surfaced? Did I miss it? Maybe it didn't make it downunder, huh? 
>Anybody?

I don't know why they chose Shelley Duvall for the Wendy Torrance role. No one
seems to have liked her in it either (at least on here). She was in a few
other productions I can think of. She played Olive Oyl in "Popeye" (with Robin
Williams as Popeye). She also hosts a story on Showtime (this may be a U.S.
cable thing, not sure) where she presents fairy tales or something. I had the
misfortune of reading the book after I saw the movie, so my view of Wendy was
Shelley Duvallish throughout. I wish I could imagine Wendy as someone in my
own mind as I can with books I read before I see the movie. 
"It" was on one of the network channels here in the states (ABC) and they
excluded a lot of what was in the book (I guess that's putting it mildly).
I agree about "Christine"; it was one of the better adaptations of one of
King's books (though it was one of the few that benefitted from a theatrical
release). As far as I've heard, there has been no sequel to "Christine".

				Laurel
 
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Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Hey Laurel
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:44:44 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <Rg2aPB5w165w@wuntvor.norman.ok.us> ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven) writes:
>     Have you seen the comic book adaptation of Matheson's "I Am Legend?
>     Except for the action in it, it is almost word for word with the novel..
>Happy advanced birthday too!!

I have not seen it, but I will now look! Thanks for the birthday wish, too!

				Laurel

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Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
_______________________-Count Dracula in "Dracula"__________________________
From: mikeg@luser.UUCP (Mike Gallenstein)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Puppet Master (& other Full Moon Movies)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:30:08 EDT
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From: ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: re:wlamonac and POE vs. KING
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:45:41 GMT
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK


     Flaming aside, I think your response to the fellow who likes Steve King
better than Poe was belittling and unfair.  I LOVE Poe, but I also love King
and realize that these men are from DIFFERENT CENTURIES!  How can you compare
King's work to Poe's when they are a century apart?  King work may be just as
viable as Poe's in a hundred years.
     (And as for the Dave Barry/Mark Twain remark, I think you were a bit harsh
on that too.  Barry has won a Pulitzer Prize for his columns and is considered
one of the world's premier humorists.  Maybe if he'd been born a hundred years
ago.......)

phluuke@maria.wustl.edu

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From: kalex@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Ken Alexander)
Subject: Re: Just came back from watching Buff'
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:59:06 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.175514.18521@newstand.syr.edu> dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell) writes:
>In article <4537@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>
>>Hey Ken, there are no vampires that I've seen in cinema that didn't flinch
>>with the sun, but didn't you read Matheson's "I Am Legend"?
>
>	If you haven't read
>	it, or only know it from the Charleton Heston film travesty
>	"The Omega Man", by all means read it.

I think "The Omega Man" is a great movie, but only if you aren't expecting
it to be similar to that story.

I believe there was a slightly more faithful adaptation of "I Am Legend",
called "The Last Man on Earth" (or something similar) and starring
Vincent Price.
From: mch@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Mark C. Henderson)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: The Stand
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:39:22 GMT
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Surrey, British Columbia, CANADA

In article <1992Aug18.185534.9627@ra.oc.com> frazier@elf.etsu.edu (Jeff Frazier) writes:
> I don't understand this fascination with Poe because if he was really 
> any good they wouldn't make you read him in school. 

Flame bait. Much too obvious and crude to really stir up anything.
You might try rec.arts.books ;-)

Mark
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From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Witch Board....Is it true....????
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:45:48 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


JK> Does anybody know about witch board.  I've heard using this board
JK> you can call the spirits and this board is available in your
JK> local toy stores.  I've heard stories (supposedly true stories)
JK> of spirits being called using this board and they do come.
JK> If anybody knows more about it, please reply soon 'cause I'm
JK> planning to try it out.

It's called a "Ouija" board, and it's published by Parker Bros. as a board
game, so yes it is available in toy stores.  It was originally thought up
by someone a long time ago, and Parker Bros. bought the rights.

And in answer to your question -- YES, it's all true.  A friend of mine
did it back when we were both thirteen, and a hand came up through the
floor and dragged him into Hell.  God, I miss him.  I never go anywhere
without the crucifix he handed me, just before the demons took him.  I
don't really want to talk about it any more, but just whatever you do,
DON'T DO IT.




Are you really in college?
From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Vampire advise
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:26:18 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Aug21.204428.26665@uceng.UC.EDU>, sweide@uceng.UC.EDU (Steve Weide) writes:
>   I was wondering if anyone could point me toward some Vampire material
> (books or movies) where the Vampire is the main character.  Not trash like
> the movie To Die For but something thought provoking. 
>                                      Thanks, 
>                                    Steve

Fred Saberhagen's Dracula novels are pretty good.  _Thorn_ is the best
one.  Other titles are _An Old Friend of the Family_ and ... I forget 
the rest.
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Lorne Epp                                               epp@mala.bc.ca
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From: J1300DAF@vm.univie.ac.at
Subject: Re: Red Dragon film
Organization: University of Vienna
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:57:12 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place)
Subject: Re: Red Dragon film
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 06:37:05 GMT

In article <PiqNPB4w165w@wuntvor.norman.ok.us>, ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (Th

} "Red Dragon" was made into a film released in the US as, "Manhunter," and
} was released theatrically to not very much excitement. After the "Silence
} of the Lambs," hysteria, it was shown on NBC as, "The Pursuit of Hannibal
} Lecter," for no apparent reason. (I thought Hannibal Lecter already WAS
} in prison. Why pursue him?)  OH well.. I guess they had to stick his name
} SOMEWHERE in the title.

You're parenthetical question might be justified if indeed that was the
(re-)title of the film, but it wasn't. The NBC broadcast of MANHUNTER was
titled RED DRAGON: THE CURSE OF HANNIBAL LECTER.

--

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com


Thanks for the info

     - Oliver
From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: wlamonac and POE vs. KING
Date: 21 Aug 1992 00:58:56 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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>      Flaming aside, I think your response to the fellow who likes
> Steve King better than Poe was belittling and unfair.  I LOVE Poe,
> but I also love King and realize that these men are from DIFFERENT
> CENTURIES!  How can you compare King's work to Poe's when they are a
> century apart?  King work may be just as viable as Poe's in a hundred
> years.

All flaming aside -- and I really DO try to avoid flaming people unless
they just REALLY deserve it -- it was never my intention to spark any
kind of debate over who is "better", King or Poe.  The comparison doesn't
even really make sense, it's kind of like listening to a debate where the
two sides just don't seem to have the same understanding of what the
central point of the discussion is.

To me, Poe and King aren't even really writing in the same sub-genre of
the genre.  My point was just that I am really tired of hearing such
universal praise heaped onto King, who in my own opinion is little more
than a commercialized hack.  I THOUGHT that when compared to Poe, some
of King's inadequacies with his use of the language might become more
evident -- hell, I THOUGHT nobody would be able to come out and say Poe
wasn't a master of the language.  Oh well, guess I'm wrong.

But look, people, if everybody was going to come on here and say how
great Steven King is for message after message, then what's the point in
posting at all?  Steven King's great, fine, let's hear about something
else.  As it stands, I disagree -- and I don't harp on it after every
message I read, I'm pretty much keeping it in one thread of discussion.
What's wrong with that?  I seem to see that some other people agree with
my opinion on King, so why not hear everybody?  

Like I said, I'm really not trying to flame anybody (except for that one
IDIOT) -- it may just sound like that some times, but try to picture me
sitting in front of a terminal with a can of Coke in one hand, rather
than bouncing around off the walls with steam coming out of my ears.
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