From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Subject: 3rd CFV and VOTE ACK: misc.legal.family moderated
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:18:32 GMT

3rd CALL FOR VOTES: misc.legal.family moderated 
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The newsgroup misc.legal.family has been proposed to provide a forum
for the discussion of family law issues. 

In the discussion period (which began 28 August), the following issues
were brought up, and a consensus reached:

1) No newsgroup is currently available through Usenet (or altnet) which
addresses the aspects of 

   How to       Why is       Where do I       What do I do

when it comes to generalities of family law. It was shown out that certain
elements of this have appeared (overly crossposted) in alt.child-support,
soc.men, alt.dads-rights, soc.women, and misc.legal. However, the discus-
sions did not, on the whole, provide a source of information free of the
rhetorical, emotional, or other (so-called) noise elements.

2) Divorce is an issue which affects one-half of all marriages in the US
today, and family-law in general touches some three-fifths of the people.
In view of this, family law has a pervasiveness which is deserving of a
newsgroup for 'clear channel' discussions, specially for the purpose of
sharing information for people involved in family-law related situations.

3) Topics that would constitute appropriate material for discussion in
the group were expanded to cover (but not be limited to) the following:

    o    divorce       
    o    child-support      
    o    paternity   
    o    intrasexual marriage   
    o    extended family rights   
    o    dependency actions
    o    court order enforcement
    o    child-abuse/molestation
    o    spousal abuses
    o    state specific laws and procedures
    o    locating representation
    o    dealing with governmental agencies
    o    miscellaneous court procedures

4) Occasional postings could/would include state forms, laws, court
rules, or other materials related to the systems of family law.

5) Occasional postings could include essays or reprints of articles
which relate to the various aspects of family-law.

6) Posts are expected to be based (but not emotionally biased) on
experiential learnings and or scholastic and professional skills, or
by curiosity about issues specific to the law as it exists today.

7) Posts are expected to be generalized in nature, and to disclude
interpersonal disparagements (flames).

8) Case specific information is discouraged, but not banned. Any
such passage of information will be the sole responsibilities of
any poster or reader should the group be created.

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[ADDENDUM: 09-27-92]  Interpersonal case discussions, if any, will
be directed to e-mail between those involved. IT IS NOT THE INTENT
OF THIS NEWSGROUP TO DISPENSE LEGAL ADVICE. This was not made very
clear in the first issue of the CFV, however, the RFD was clear.
This addendum is made to avoid any confusion on the part of voters.
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VOTING INFORMATION/INSTRUCTIONS:

Votes shall be sent via e-mail ONLY. Only votes mailed to the proper
address shall be counted. Votes which are posted or mailed to an
improper address will be voided. In the case of vote changes, the
LAST vote sent by an individual will be counted, and previous votes
by that individual will be voided.

The voting will remain open until Midnight, October 25. This message
will be repeated three times, once each week, until the voting closes.

YES votes should be sent to:     yes@dogear.spk.wa.us
NO  votes should be sent to:     no@dogear.spk.wa.us

In EITHER case, the body of your message text should contain the words 

           "I vote {yes}/{no} for misc.legal.family" 

as per Usenet Guidelines. The subject line and/or any other text/comment 
will be ignored. (Votes will neither be tallied nor read until the vote
closes.) In order to pass, the vote tally must demonstrate a two-thirds
majority in favor, with 100 more yes votes than no votes. The results of
the voting will be posted at the conclusion of the voting period.
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VOTE ACKNOWLEDGEMENTS:

The following people have sent messages containing valid votes for or
against the creation of misc.legal.family:

"Sam Hill Cabal, DS" <tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu>
a.hoffmeyer@att.com
af5@staff.cc.purdue.edu
alz@grumpy.cray.com (Andrew Zachary)
andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt)
angela@prusik (Angela Morgan)
bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt)
Bob Billson <bob@kc2wz.bubble.org>
Bob Waltenspiel <bobw@hpsadwc.sad.hp.com>
bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Bruce Young <Bruce_Young@ccm.hf.intel.com>
bzd@inel.gov (Barnaby A Duncan)
ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas)
claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
condry@bigriver.Eng.Sun.COM (Michael Condry)
cramer@charly.taclog.af.mil (MSgt Stephen E. Cramer;HQ ACC/LGSWA;DSN 574-4768)
Dana Khoyi <dana@wang.com>
david@indetech.com (David Kuder)
debra@creatures.cs.vt.edu (Debra Potts)
dec@lazarus.nrtc.northrop.com
dgross@nike.calpoly.edu (Dave Gross)
dpaxton@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Debi Paxton)
ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear)
ekp@enlil.premenos.sf.ca.us (Manny Pasetes)
emcguire@icet.intellection.com
finger@adra.com
Geoffrey Rutledge <rutledge@camis.stanford.edu>
Greg Chisholm <chisholm@antares.mcs.anl.gov>
gt1112c@prism.gatech.edu (LEVI,URIEL ABRAHAM)
Janice Price <jprice@DPW.COM>
kevin@cfctech.cfc.com (Kevin Darcy)
laura@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com
lazaridi@galton.uchicago.edu (Emmanuel Lazaridis)
Levi_Bitansky <Levi_Bitansky@happy-man.com>
lima@uts.amdahl.com (Bruce "Bubba" Lima)
luj@ecn.purdue.edu (John Lu)
M20614@mwvm.mitre.org (Hugh Pritchard)
mag@iWarp.intel.com (Michael Goldsmith)
baldwin@csservera.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
Don Beaver <beaver@cs.psu.edu>
frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
terry@gtm-inc.com (Terry Gerritsen)
Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
"Charles D. Noe" <PA10890%UTKVM1.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Dale Marmaduke <ITOG400%INDYCMS.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU>
Steve Gottesman <GOTT@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu>
Adam Gilinsky <CIGS13%VAXA.STRATHCLYDE.AC.UK@ib.rl.ac.uk>
"Charles T. Smith, Jr." <cts@dragon.COM>
"Dolikian-CAD001 Arman" <armand@comm.mot.com>
"Marc E. Beland" <BELAND@upei.ca>
"Rob Johnson" <rob_johnson@macmail.lbl.gov>
Maralee Morado <morado@u.washington.edu>
markr@sound.cts.com (Mark B. Reinhold)
mcmanus@wpi.WPI.EDU (Pat McManus)
Michael.Lema@EBay.Sun.COM (michael.lema@EBay)
mmt@redbrick.com
mstemper@ems.cdc.com (Michael Stemper)
mtxinu!eskimo.celestial.com!delisle@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU (Ben Delisle)
murthy@ssd.dl.nec.com (Vasudev Murthy)
nobody@Kodak.COM (Mark Witherspoon (x37360))
nwa@sunsrvr1.cci.com (Nabeel Abdallah)
OISPEGGY@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
ral@falkor.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Roger Lighty)
Rick Westerman <westerm@bchm1.aclcb.purdue.edu>
rlt@gummo.att.com (Roberta L Taylor)
rmk@els.cray.com (Bob Kass)
robd@shotgun.wv.tek.com (Rob Dixon)
roder@cco.caltech.edu (Brenda J. Roder)
ruman@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (ruman)
Samuel S. Epstein <sse@wind.bellcore.com>
stevez@pongo.West.Sun.COM (Steve Zucker)
steward@cup.portal.com
STG colleague <mariou@astro.ufl.edu>
Sunil Maulik <maulik@presto.ig.com>
Susan Biddlecomb <biddleco@mizar.usc.edu>
schieb@shark.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber)
Scott@univel.COM (Scott Harrison)
serling@visual.spk.wa.us (Brock Serling)
sharkey!cfctech.cfc.com!kevin (Kevin Darcy)
shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell, JD)
shimeall@cs.nps.navy.mil (timothy shimeall)
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
I can't drive 55 <DEMON@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
"David L. Boucher" <FAC2445%UOFT01.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU>
Tom Fitzgerald <fitz@wang.com>
"Dave V. Schaller" <schaller@hsi.com>
simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
smiles@NMC.ED.RAY.COM (Kevin Ruddy)
ssmith@xocolatl.com (Shannon Smith)
Steve Turadek <turadek@apple.com>
steven@informix.com (Steven Copley)
sybase!lslater@Sun.COM (Lynn Slater)
Terry Carroll <tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>
throop@hsvaic.boeing.com (David Throop)
VPRASAD@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Will Hopkins <hopkins@apollo.hp.com>
William T. Jones <wtjones@hpsrmt0.sr.hp.com>
woody@bdrc.bd.com (Woody Muller)
E.T.Kelsey@gdr.bath.ac.uk
"Eric J. Olson" <ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu>
mhpower@stan.mit.edu
Dark Elf <9029699@ul.ie>
GPARKER@uoft02.utoledo.edu
jbuck@ohm.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Buck)
john@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (John M. Blasik)
jsellars@pbseps.sf180.PacBell.COM (James E. Sellars)
jsw@rawhide.cray.com (Jon S. Wood)
Keith Harris <keith@eos.arc.nasa.gov>
al198723@next00.mty.itesm.mx
-- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA 
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