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From: kentm@aix.rpi.edu (Michael V. Kent)
Subject: Re: synthLAB problem
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:32:02 GMT

In article <d584273@pro-columns.cts.com> paintmaster@pro-columns.cts.com (Paul Dambrauskas) writes:
>>>I simply cannot get synthLAB to launch.  I launch it from the finder
>>>and it loads a good ways, but then I get an off-gray (light) screen
> 
>I had a similar problem.  The problem is the finder eats too much memory,
>so SynthLab does not have enough memory to load.  This gives you two
>choices, either load SynthLab from another disk, avoiding the finder, or
>purge your memory before you load it.

I can get synthLAB to run with 1280K on a clean (no inits/DA's -- hold down
shift while booting) system from the Finder, but not with all my extras.  So
you'll just have to do a quick reboot before you run it, that's all.  Time to
order those one meg SIMMs...

Mike
 
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From: mark@trillian.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Manning)
Subject: Re: Don't you hate it
Organization: Simulacron I
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:24:35 GMT

I too have have a bit of a problem with this "Responses before questions."
But have adjusted.  Someone, a while ago, posted that the reason for this
is because of the various systems and the way in which they all work.
Basically, what is entry #2304 here could be entry #58 on a smaller system.
Thus, when the person responds on the other system, their response number
would be (maybe) #63.  When this is re-uploaded to the other systems,
#68 gets stuck in a lower numbered bracket on your system simply to try
and keep things working properly (because your system thinks their
response is actually something they missed on a previous pass).

Unless everyone in the whole world agreed to a certain numbering system,
it is unlikely this problem will ever go away.  Next to some of the other
staggering problems in the world - I doubt this will range highly on
anyone's list of things to do.
From: steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Steve Fenwick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: NTSC-->AppleColor RGB?
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:50:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr13.005017.22583
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

In <d974786@pro-ace.cts.com>
wsheffield@pro-ace.cts.com (Wayne Sheffield) writes:

>>Is it possible to get or build a converter that will allow me to view
>>an NTSC signal on my IIGS's monitor?  If so, how?
>
>ComputerEyesGS has a card that will receive input from any MTSC source, and
>display it on your monitor.
> 
>                   Wayne Sheffield
>     FIDO: 1:275/48  Pro-Line wsheffield@pro-ace
>

I have never heard of this before.... how much does it cost?  What software
do you need?  I have the Computereyes GS card, but it only displays real-time
on another NTSC monitor.



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From: spock@incom.de (Martin Georg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Pointless first impressions
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:55:23 GMT
Organization: INCOM, Interessengemeinschaft Computer, Offenbach

In article <1992Apr3.072156.13891@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.221127.3967@incom.de> spock@incom.de (Martin Georg) writes:
>
>Well since your signature mentioned Formulate GS, and I've tried the demo and 
>found it rather interesting and usable with Pointless, could you please
>tell me how one would (1) Type in some word processor (2) Open up the
>equation editor without closing the wp and (3) make and copy an equation
>from Formulate into the wp. I could see doing this if Formulate were a
>NDA or if GNO supported 2 desktop programs, but it would appear as though
>you have to edit an equation, save it, quit Formulate, open the wp, paste
>in the equation, close the wp, edit another equationetc...This is a bit
>much! Surely I'm missing something!
>

Well, the Apple IIgs operation system does not support application switching,
so you HAVE to prepare your formula in Formulate GS aside from your word 
processor. In general, Formulate GS uses object graphics to store its formula,
so every IIgs program which supports Quickdraw PICT files or object graphics
can get the most from Formulate GS. If you copy your formula to the clipboard,
it also has the object graphics format. If your word processor (or any other 
IIgs program - think about a HyperStudio stack) supports only paint files,
that's also ok but you can't use the font manager's fonts to get a high-
quality print output. (The Author thinks about doing a NDA version as well,
but thats not definite at this time ....).

>The other thing is whether or not there is a word processor which accepts
>inline pasting of equations while keeping track of the baseline,...?
>
>Philip McDunnough
>philip@utstat.toronto.edu

I don't know about such a word processor for the IIgs (I think that good word
processors for the IIgs are rare in general). Have you tried Mercury GS or
Medley GS???


Martin Georg

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From: cmm@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Chris M McKinsey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sys6/ShowpicNDA anomaly
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:40:03 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <920416190641.281904@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL> TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL writes:
>I won't call it a bug, since I don't know what the problem is, but it
>seemed worth noting that the showpic.6 NDA has trouble in 3200 mode
>working with SOME applications under sys 6, but not all.  It works fine

It may be the same thing as I found when writing "Eye". It seems Finder 6.0
has shadowing on ALL the time, and doesn't bother to make sure it's on after
the first time it turned it on. 

Since I _used_ to just do "shadowing on" and "shadowing off", that screwed
up displaying 3200 pics, because the palettes are usually kept in $012000.

So I had to rewrite everything to do "save shadowing" "shadowing off" 
"restore shadow status".

This is what I had to do to get "Eye" to work. And yes, it does display
both official Apple 3200 formats from Finder perfectly. 

Chris
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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown Matt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: TCF
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:51:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32470
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <s0ywiB4w164w@graphics.rent.com> scraft@graphics.rent.com (Steve Craft) writes:
}        The Trenton Computer Festival (TCF) is the oldest personal
}computing show in the world. First held in May, 1976, TCF was held at
}Trenton State College for the first fourteen years before moving across
}town to Mercer County Community College in 1990.

	When did the West Coast Computer Faire start? '77? Just curious..
It's advertized as the oldest on the West Coast...
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From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: help needed on _convseconds.
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 10:30:46 EDT
Keywords: convseconds

dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:

> Sorry, that verb always uses the Battery RAM setting.  (There's no verb
> for converting to a specified ASCII format.)

On a related topic, I've been meaning to ask for a repost of the BRAM bit 
that eliminates the cursor-disappearing problem...I lost the first one 
(clumsy me, I know).

And since I'm inexperienced at poking BRAM, could someone give me an idea of 
how to set/clear this bit? Preferably from, say, the monitor?

btw, the cursor can be made to disappear on unaccelerated systems as well, 
if you move the mouse quickly...curiously, it only happens when moving up. 
All other directions are ok.

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From: v071pve3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amba K Singletary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: I need to find a communications package for Apple II any ideas?
Date: 12 Apr 92 17:38:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


I'm looking to do some work on an apple 2/e that I have at home. I'm running
prodos. The problem is that I have been using my IBM Compatible for so long 
that I've Have no idea where to find I comm. package. I've been using kermit
on my IBM and my MAC. Is there a kermit for apple????

CAn anyone answer these questions for me?

I have ftp capabilities.
From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Nostalgia Contest
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:48:49 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <rdippold.703038978@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>As I said, I've just dug out my Apple // for the new place, and in the
>docs I found: my big red 8 1/2" x 11" "Apple II Reference Manual" from
>January 1978.
[...stuff removed...]

Wow.

>Can anyone "beat" this?

Not I.  I wouldn't mind having a copy though!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: NDP 1.0a6 on c.b.a2
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:22:18 GMT

For what's it worth (and since I forgot to mention on c.b.a2 that this
is a new version): NDP 1.0a6 has been posted to comp.binaries.apple2.
It is of use to ppl who keep a FIDO style nodelist, or plan to do so.

If you already use NDP, definitely get this update, it's about 90% faster.

Soenke
From: markie@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Mark Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: WANTED: Apple IIgs Case
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:31:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44490
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I have a friend who needs an Apple IIgs case.  Does anybody out there
have a spare one that they are not using?

Thanks in advance,
Mark
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From: ppuskari@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Petar E Puskarich)
Subject: Re: BET / SuperDataPath problem .
Keywords: BET SuperDataPath AutoMenus
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:43:28 GMT


I have also noticed the same thing happening:  Ie  system hang and / or
slowdown to a halt.  I have also got the AutoWindows active and BET installed.
SuperDataPath also is installed.  If SuperDataPath is not installed. all

seems to go well....

hmmmm....


Petar Puskarich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,from.socal.com
From: bkogawa@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Bryan Ogawa)
Subject: Re: Xenocide and RamFAST
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/450-9394 - Santa Monica, CA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:32:15 GMT

hm...
it sounds like your RAMFast may be interfering with your copy protection...
Since my copy (which runs w/ my RAMFast active) has copy protection
destroyed, this would explain your problem...if that's the case, what you
need is the Xenocide deprotect...

.....................................................................
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                University of California, Los Angeles
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From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: Salvaging My Apple RAM Card
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:59:14 GMT

I'm hoping to buy some extra memory for my GS, and was wondering
if there's any way to avoid wasting the Apple memory card I've
currently got.  Are any of the cards that let you attach your old
card to them DMA compatible?  Is it a fair assumption that any
other cards currently available are DMA compatible?  Also, which (if
any) of the current cards use SIMMs?  Thanks in advance
for whatever information anyone can supply me with -- any answers
I might get probably aren't of too much general interest, so
e-mail replies are fine.  Feel free to post if you feel like it, though.
Thanks again.
-- 
Jim Wong (jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bj687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gregory Joseph Boehnlein)
Subject: Re: Piraccy via BBSs (was: Re: Apple Awards)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 17:39:39 GMT


Here, here...I agree with your point totally. As a Sysop, on(Im my eyes) one
has the power to guide the "Software Criminals" into more productive forms
of communication.

As an example - The first BBS I ran was GBBS 1.2. It was one of about 15 in
Cleveland. It had nothing! Started out on an Apple IIE with 4 disk drives.

Eventually, I worked up to an 85 meg Hard Drive. I though "Wow, now I can put
up a transfer section." But when I looked around, ALL the other boards had
transfer sections. ALL of them had the same pirated wares floating around.
MOST of them were boring.

So instead of runnign SuperTac, I modified an older GBBS Transfer Section 
and put up a Transfer Section devoted ENTIRELY to Text Files. The highlight
of the transfer areas, though, was not the "Sex" or "Anarchy" files, but 
the Term Paper and Essay Text File Section.

I received over 3500 calls in the next 6 months, averaged 19 callers a day 
and had 2,274 UPLOADS!!! 

Even Ninth graders called and had Intelligent conversations!!!!
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From: flash@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Glenn Koproske)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:16:23 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

In <1992Apr4.084358.3710@incom.de> spock@incom.de (Martin Georg) writes:

>Well, I can just support what Bob said. I have exactly the same problems.
>My system:
>IIgs ROM 01, 4MB on GSRam+, RamFAST rev. D v2.01e, Zip GS 1.01 8/32. Quickie,
>FPE in slot 6, SOnic Blaster.

If I see another IIgs'er with a RamFAST write in complaining about how System
6.0 doesn't work, I'm going to SCREAM!

Get a life.  Get a IIe.  Then you won't have any more problems.


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From: 2frjbits@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: APW, MPW, and Orca
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:41:25 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

ALL RIGHT!  We just got the System 6 Developer CD, Way Cool!

Now, that said, does anyone know anything about APW?  Is it likely to be
supported in the future, and is it any faster compiling than Orca/C (APW/C 
that is).  I've all but given up on Orca/C and have gone back to programming
in ML.  

Also, what are the advantages of using MPW/GS over APW?  And, is it possible
to write libraries in MPW/GS that can be used in APW or Orca and vice-versa.
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From: sjordan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Steve Jordan)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:05:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Sys6 and AWGS
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2

I'm having the same problem.  Does anyone know WHY Appleworks cannot load
modules?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: System 6.0
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:44:21 GMT

In article <20kw02mvcbbg00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) writes:

[DWGS's title screen not appearing under 6.0...]
>
>'Taint the problem.  The SHR screen *is* on, but all you can see is three
>lines of garbage up at the very top.

I changed the aux filetype. Still didn't work. So, do you have any ideas?
Anyone?

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: drb@cs.brown.edu (Dan Bornstein)
Subject: Re: Lisa & ANIX?
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:32:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.105833.16558@news.Hawaii.Edu>, gkomatsu@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Galen Tatsuo Komatsu) writes:
>	Recently while cleaning up a file of ftp site listings I came
>across "ucr.ucrmath.edu" (something like that) and the note I had next
>to it was "Lisa & ANIX".  But I haven't the foggiest idea what these
>programs are.  I ftp'd over to the site and found the files for the two,
>and gee, they're huge!
Lisa is an assembler. ANIX is an operating system (very vaguely
Unix-like). Both were commercial products--I bought Lisa about 6
years ago, and it came with Anix as well as the best 6502 debugger
I ever used, Maxwell's Demon.

>The file is a ~130k .SHK file, do I need a hard drive or a 3.5" to use
>this? (whatever it is...)
No hard drive necessary. I used it on an Apple ][ (not ][+, not //e, etc.
etc.) with just 2 5.25" drives. Runs under DOS 3.3 unless it was updated
since I got it.

-dan
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From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown Matt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:04:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <m94siB1w164w@bluemoon.rn.com> t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson) writes:
>What I have a problem with is that the upgrade should NOT have the 
>problems that it does have. In my eyes, an upgrade should fully support 
>the previous hardward and software that was in use before. Case in 

	That is certainly the *theoretical* goal, but is very often impossible
or impractical.  I'm not saying anything was purposely 'given up on' because it
didn't work with 6.0..

	All OS upgrades create some incompatibilities with already existing
software..  System 7 for the Mac did it, I believe MSDOS 5.0 did it..

	Many of the problems people have posted about on here have already 
been solved.. It sounds like you're asking for miracles.
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From: flav@bluemoon.rn.com (Jason Jones)
Subject: Re: Piraccy via BBSs (was: Re: Apple Awards)
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 14:49:02 EDT

t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson) writes:

> flav@bluemoon.rn.com (Jason Jones) writes:
> 
> 
> -> [loads of stuff deleted to save my tired eyes]
> 
> Flav, you're one of the FEW people who doesn't continually ask me if TCQ 
> (my bbs) has a "pirate" section.

  I didn't say at all that I don't persue pirate exfers.  I am one of the 
biggest users of them, but I don't ask for 'Warez' all over the place, and 
only dl.. <atleast I don;t think I do..>  The fact is, he is saying that 
all we do is call names, and download stuff, and do no posting of anything 
useful to the system..

 <maybe that is true, but no-one ever says anything bad about my posts, 
and I usually get replies..>



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Subject: Re: ORCA/C 1.3
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:26:32 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Apr8.164146.23416@cis.ohio-state.edu> meekins@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) writes:
> In article <484@msisun.msi.co.jp> kuroda@msisun.msi.co.jp (Hisao Kuroda) writes:
> >Hello.
> >I am a user of Orca/C, but I can't get no satisfaction.
> >In version 1.2 it has terrible bugs and almost useless.
> >In version 1.3 some of them were fixed, but more likely to crashes.
> >
> >Does anyone compile following code ?
> >It will crash on my environment. (1.25M ROM01 Orca/C 1.3 Vulcan-100)
> >If you can compile following, please mail me your environment.
> >

As I've already told Hisao Kuroda in E-Mail, the problem in this case
appears to be a bug with forward references to structures.  This bug
(in ORCA/C 1.2 and 1.3) causes the compiler to choke if you refer to a
structure which hasn't been defined yet, within the definition of
another structure.
As soon as any code tries to access the forward-referenced structure,
you either get an 'illegal forward reference' error, or a compiler
crash [I wasn't aware of the latter until I tried this code].

I've already told Mike Westerfield about this bug (at least, the
'illegal forward reference' part).

Here is a simple example which demonstrates it:

struct a {
    struct b *bptr;
};

struct b {
    int i, j, k;
    struct a *aptr;
};

int main(int argc, char *argv[]) {
    struct a var1;
    struct b var2;

    var2.i = var2.j = var2.k = 0;
    var2.aptr = &var1;
    var1.bptr = &var2;		/* COMPILER REPORTS ERROR HERE */
    return 0;
}


The bug can be worked around by adding the line "struct b;" before
the definition of "struct a".

In the case in point, this was sufficient to prevent the compiler
crash.  I have no idea if the code works properly, though.

> I noticed you had lots of expressions of the form aaa = xxx ? yyy : zzz.
> Everyone version of Orca/C I've seen has trouble with this trinary
> operations, mostly when they're nested, like you had them. Try breaking them
> into if/then/else and see if that fixes anything.

Apparently at least one bug with the conditional expression was fixed
in version 1.3 - it had really bad problems in 1.2 and earlier!  I
haven't noticed anything wrong with it in 1.3 (yet).
-- 
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