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From: naherzin@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Neil A. Herzinger)
Subject: Re: WANTED:  EPS 16+ (Rack) & K2000
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 19:40:39 EST

In article <1992Nov9.010444.19015@nmsu.edu> willittl@spock.NMSU.Edu (William  Little) writes:
>
>Also, what is the current price for the K2000 (board)
>going.  Is the sample module out yet?
>

These are the two best prices I've found for the K2000 board:

Sweetwater -$2050
Sam Ash -$2075

neil.herzinger...graduate...art.media.studies...computer.graphics...syracuse.u.
....................................grae.com...................................
From: tommie@pacesetter.com (Tom Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Roland SCC1 Sound Module - opinions??
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:59:03 GMT
Organization: Siemens Pacesetter, Inc.

In article <03249587.721275249@mama> 03249587@mama.minmet.uq.oz (Darcy Clark) writes:
>
> I'm hunting around for a workstation setup for home use - but I don't know 
> whether to get a keyboard (an M1 or sy77 etc..) so I can play live, or to
> get an ROLAND SCC1 card so I can utelize my 486DX33 for sequencing!! As far as>  I can work out, the keyboard has 2 advantages -
>     1..... Portability ( BIG ADVANTAGE!!!)
>     2..... Several come with v.good effects on-board.
> I'm very impressed with Cakewalk Pro and MasterTraks for their ease of use etc. but am put off by not being able to play live easily. Another advantagte of 
> getting the sound card for my computer is that to upgrade all I'll have to      replace is the card - not the whole keyboard!!!  I will greatly appreciate any> advice from both users of M1's etc... and users of ROLAND SCC1's etc.


Your question is hard to answer since it's not clear exactly what you
want to do. If you want to play live, you need a keyboard. Even if you
could drag your computer to the gig site, you still need a keyboard!
(unless you're just going to load a sequence, start it up, then get a
beer ;-) ). Maybe i'm missing something.

Anyways...
I have an SCC1 card and Cakewalk Pro for Windows. I'm extremely happy
with the combination. You'll want to buy a keyboard anyways, though
so that you can enter music by playing rather than by keyboard (or mouse).
Also, it's fun to use the keyboard to play along with sequences.
Of course, you only need a controller keyboard (rather than a full synth).
Then again, you might as well get the full synth so that you can "play out"!

As far as taking the SCC1 to a gig, the best option I can think of
is to get one of those lunchbox type cases (with the built-in LCD monitor)
and stuff your 486 into it. These have an external VGA output so you can
use your CRT at home.

-tom
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: Re: SH-101 resonance noise
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.synth
Organization: Space Astronomy Lab, Madison WI
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:47:18 GMT

Dan Harkless writes:
>	Well, with all this talk of SH-101 guts, I guess this is an appropriate
>time to post this question:  I have a weird problem with my SH-101; when I turn
>the resonance up past about 3 or so, there's suddenly a huge amount of crackly
>noise in the signal - not just when I move the slider, either - while it's up
>that high the noise will continue.  The noise isn't very constant, either - 
>it's like periodic crackling.  

Hmmmmm. Well, I'm no electronics guru but I have a reasonable track record
with fixing things. You are probably right in suggesting that it's not the 
slider. Nonetheless, clean it first, it could fix the problem and
is a real easy thing to try. 

Another guess of mine is that if the filter chip is functioning at all, it's
probably healthy overall.

A test: turn the output volume way down. Does the problem go away? If so,
look at the output amp stage. Maybe a bum capacitor. Is the problem present
in both the headphone out and line out? another way to narrow it down.

And if none of this proves helpful, ask Jim Smith about cold anodes.

-- 
| Randy Jones           | 
| rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu  |
From: craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com (Craig Barnes - Sun UK - Senior Systems Admin N + SW Group Regio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: ANATEK Pocket Devices
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:35:32 GMT
Reply-To: craig@hadrian.uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems

as anyone used one of these devices, in particular the "Pocket Filter", Do they work well, lock up, or work reasonably well under light loading of the MIDI stream. The reason I am saking is that I want to filter out program changes from my AX1 to the rest of my setup so the Sequencer call call up the correct programs and I can just channel hop using the AX1, at the moment if I channel hop I reset the receiving synth to whatever program is setup in the AX1.


rgds

Craig


	AX1 ---> POCKET FILTER ----
				    \
				     MERGER -----> MIDI STACK
				    /
	ENSONIQ SD1 ----------------
	
	
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:13:19 EST
From:         "(Jeff Mallory)" <jeff@MILLIE.LOC.GOV>
Subject:      Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Comments: To: SYNTH-L%AUVM.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU

Had this much discussion ensued _before_ the name-change vote, I suspect the
outcome would have been much different: everyone who reads r.m.s. (especially
the non-sysadmin types) would have had a much clearer idea of the implications
of the name change and who it would effect.  Maybe next time, there should be
a fake vote first, all the ramifications could be flamed^H^H^H^H^H^H discussed
and then an informed and highly motivated electorate could cast their real
ballots! :)

Jeff
jeff@millie.loc.gov
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: yho@bmerh2.bnr.ca (Yue-shun Ho)
Subject: Re: Pianist seeks advice for good keyboard controller
Reply-To: yho@utcs.utoronto.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 23:48:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov02.192555.6763@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>There are quite a few models out there: Yamaha, Roland, Korg,
>and Technics all have brought out weighted master controllers/piano
>modules. Several other lesser known companies such as Wersei, Fatar,
>and others also have made them.
>
>The Yamaha KX88 was one of the early weighted keyboards. The Korg SG-1
>Sampled Grand was another that was very popular. I'd start checking around
>used stores and see what you can find. Make sure you are happy with
>the action.

The Yamaha and Korg are nice machines.  Thing is... these monsters are
  awefully heavy - 32 kg or 70 lbs - not really portable. 

Any suggestion(s) for a weighted portable master controller?  Maybe 76 keys?
  Or do they exist at all?

yue-shun, toronto, ontario
[ yho@utcs.utoronto.ca ]
Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Friday, 13 Nov 1992 10:01:12 CET
From: Stefan Ratschan <K3067E0@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject:    Oberheim Matrix 1000 vs. Matrix 6R

Does anyone know the exact difference between the
Oberheim Matrix 1000 and the Matrix 6R?
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: ibsieker@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Bernd Sieker)
Subject: Re: Synth shopping
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:58:25 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.

In article <1992Nov8.152107.21545@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>, bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Pinch yourself! An article to do with synthesizers and not usenet hegemony. 
|> 
|> I am on the verge of starting my long anticipated MIDI system.  
|> I'm interested in synth and sampling hardware, rather than sample
|> playback.  I also have a 486 PC, and Cakewalk Pro for Windows seems
|> like an ideal software platform.
|> 
|> So far, the Yamaha SY85 ($2080) and Korg Wavestation EX ($1500)
|> have caught my eye as prospective choices (prices in Canadian $$$).  
|> The Ensoniq EPS-16+ sampler is also interesting.  I was previously
|> looking at the K2000, but issues of reliability and servicing scare me.
|> (I've bought hardware with state-of-the-art specs before, only to be 
|> screwed by shoddy manufacturing.)
|> 
|> questions:
|> 
|> - Does anyone have any info on the SY85?  Can it read external
|>   samples like the SY99?

Yes it can, the Memory is 512k, but expandable to 3.5 meg.

|> - Is the Wavestation EX worth considering over the SY85?

The Wavestation EX is somewhat different, as it has far advanced
Synthesis features, but no Sample RAM and no Sequencer (except
for Wave sequences)

|> - Are there any other contenders I should consider?

If you want a real SYNTH, you should consider buyiing the SY77, which
is a real Advanced-FM Synthesizer, but does not have sample RAM.
The FM Synthesis is the way the DX made its sounds, it is a real
Synthesis that does NOT use samples as basis for sound reproduction.

If you can afford, the SY99 is an extended SY77 with Sample RAM.

|> - Are there PC-based programs which manipulate samples via software 
|>   (edit, effects, etc)?  I should think that a program that does Fourier 
|>   transforms on samples should be fairly simple to do... (A project!)

sorry, no idea (Only Amiga makes it possible)

-- 

Bernd Sieker, Universitaet Bielefeld,
naturwissenschaftliche Informatik

Internet Address: ibsieker@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de
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|           I don't mind, I think they're crazy            |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: xrjdm@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph D. McMahon)
Subject: Looking for a new gateway maintainer
Organization: NASA/GSFC NCCS
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:13:22 GMT
Reply-To: xrjdm@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov 
X-Posted-From: twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

It really saddens me to see Dave Hayes spending so much time fighting for a 
lost cause. Worse, I'm sure many have stopped reading r.m.s simply because
there's too much noise here. I think that there were probably readers who 
didn't reailze that non-readers would be voting on the change of the newsgroup; 
I did remark the lack of discussion. It's done. Let's move on.

To the meat of the matter. I have because of reasons of my own decided
that I can no longer spend time in maintaining the gateway between the
SYNTH-L mailing list and the rec.music.synth/rec.music.makers.synth/
alt.rms.flamage newsgroup. If there is someone who is willing to grasp
the torch as it falls from my fingers, please write to me at the address
below; I will pass on the current membership list from SYNTH-L for you
to use in establishing a new gateway.

I am utterly serious about this. The link incoming goes away at 1 AM. The
link going out to r.m.s is already gone. 

I hope that there will be someone willing to make the effort to help 
those who are not lucky enough to have Usenet access. If not, it's
not as if it's going to kill anybody.

-- 
                  Joe McMahon | How could you understand the animals' language?
                  P.O. Box 13 | How the rest-room is to be coloured?
            Lothian, MD 20711 | Which was the point to confuse Kandinsky?
xrjdm@twinpeaks.gsfc.nasa.gov |                    ---  m.alexander@itec.spb.su
From: jlp@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: ||||
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:53:31 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

I have a hardly used KX-88 and TX-7 for sale.  

I will sell them as a set for $1,225 or individually,
the TX-7 for $275
the KX-88 for $1,050

Please contact me if you are interested.  If I am misunderstanding the 
recent listing of used prices posted on the net, please let me know (I
have not read this group before and am having a horrible time trying 
to figure out how to get the index for this group, but that is my problem.)

I do not read this group much at all.  Please contact me with an offer at
jlp@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu or 607/272-1651.  

Please ask if you have any questions
From: dan@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel Heath)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Modem music
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:05:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: ncsu.1992Nov5.050541.29967
Followup-To: dan@catt.ncsu.edu
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh

In article <1d9iaaINNlfe@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com> mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:
>In article <1992Oct29.045224.6064@samba.oit.unc.edu>
>                     Noshir.Patel@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Noshir Patel) writes:
>
>>Someone was saying he would like a way to connect midi devices over
>>a phone line in real time.
>>
>>Well, with a computer, this probably can be done pretty easily.  First,
>>remember that it really doesn't matter that MIDI uses a higher baud rate
>>than current modemes.  It doesn't generate a continuous stream of data
>>(for most operations) so the modem should be able to keep up.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 [stuff deleted]
>
>And even if you specify a reduced bandwidth, and users abide by that spec,
>you have to remember that the relative timing of most MIDI events is implied
>by the timing of the messages themselves.  That is, there is no time stamping
>nor timeline information.  What you suggest takes that implicit timing and
>skews it all over the place.  This is not a very nice thing to do with music,
>where timing is one of the major parameters by which expression is
>communicated.
>
>On the other hand, it occurs to me that this must be kind of thing that the
>serial interfaces, such as those by Key Electronics, do.  How do they get
>around these problems?
>

  Hey,

  A friend of mine and I had thought about creating a program to do
modem MIDI as well.  It seemed to one-way play could be implemented by
timestamping the packets from the origin and sending them down the line.
Then, at the other end, create a buffer with a "watermark" that would
trigger the playing at the other end.  The trick is to figure out how
high to set the watermark.

  Now, someone earlier mentioned real-time playing over modem both
one-way and two-way.  Unfortunately, the law of physics gets in the way
over telephone transfers of any significant distances.  First of all,
there will always be SOME delay caused by the modem, even if very
slight.  Second of all, the speed of light is approx. 186,000 miles per
second.  Over time, even this speed will not be fast enough.
  
   Now, imagine trying to play along with your friend on the other end.
You hit a note.  The note travels down the line.  Your friend hears the
note and re-acts.  That note goes down the line back to you.  By then,
you could be several notes ahead.  It wouldn't take too long before
things got REAL sluggish.

   I would like to hear others thoughts on this, cause it would be a
REALLY cool tool to use to play your music for others on the spur of the
moment.

                                        Later,
                                        Dan Heath
                                        dan@catt.ncsu.edu
From: garym@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Gary Marcos)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:38:30 GMT
Subject: Piano instructional software?
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

I am looking for software recommendations for piano instructional aids for   
beginners which will utilize my PAS16 card in the PC and the Midi-in and
Midi-out ports on my Yamaha electric piano.  I am also interested in
recommendations for the hardware adapters between the PAS16 and the midi
connections.
Thanks, Gary Marcos
garym@cup.hp.com

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: davem@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (David Monro)
Subject: patches on ftp?
Summary: Where can i get...
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:16:03 GMT

Are there any ftp sites with collections of patches for any of the following:
Yam TX81Z, Kawai K1 and K5 (Yes, a K5) and Evolution EVS1
or any others for that matter.

If not, does anybody else like the idea?
(pref someone who administers a site...)

David Monro
-- 
David Monro
e-mail: davem@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
-- 
David Monro
e-mail: davem@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Dave Hayes)
Subject: RENAME: Those against name change PLEASE READ!
Reply-To: dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Lab - Pasadena, CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:59:58 GMT

Any effort by those who oppose the rec.music.synth name change is appreciated.
What you need to do is the following:

1) Please crosspost ONE message of dissent about the name change to 
news.groups. That way the news admins will get a clearer idea of who all
does not support the change. ESPECIALLY DO THIS IF YOUR VOTE WAS NOT COUNTED.

2) Please send me (dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov) a brief message stating that
you oppose the name change. 

Optional is to participate in the ongoing flamewar about the name change
going on in news.groups. The current issue is that the subject line
"CFV: rec.music.makers.*" was not clear enough in alerting people to a
name change of rec.music.synth. 

Thanks for your support. Those who oppose my support are invited to comment
also. 
-- 
Dave Hayes - Network & Communications Engineering - JPL / NASA - Pasadena CA
dave@elxr.jpl.nasa.gov       dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov         ...usc!elroy!dxh

A great deal of thought is only a substitute for the thoughts which the 
individual would really find useful at the time.
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From: croehrig@cs.ubc.ca (Chris Roehrig)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: Cubase for Windows SMPTE capability, and reliability.
Date: 10 Nov 1992 23:07:41 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: carib.cs.ubc.ca


Does anyone know if Cubase/Windows is capable of using the MQX-32M's SMPTE  
ports to sync to analog tape?

I noticed in their glossy brochure that they support MIDI sync (MIDI clock, 
MIDI timecode), and that they sell a hardware MIDI/SMPTE rack interface for
the PC, but they don't say if it supports SMPTE on other manufacturers'  
interfaces.

Also, how reliable/robust is the program?   I've heard that it has a tendency
to drop MIDI events.    I'll be running it on a 25MHz 386DX.
I also heard that there is no way to filter out MIDI active sensing information
so it sometimes screws up recording, but that sounds stupid.

Anything else I should know before I plonk money down?   It looks infinitely
superior to Cakewalk/Windows when it comes to productivity.  I hope a notation  
editing/printing upgrade is in the works.

Chris Roehrig
University of British Columbia, Canada
From: abe@netcom.com (David Abercrombie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Korg M1 to 01 sound transfer ?
Keywords: korg transfer
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:09:23 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

It it possible to transfer sounds from the Korg M1 to the Korg 01?
Specifically, I would like to transfer the two acoustic piano sounds
(program #s 01 and 41) and the Hammond B3 sound (program #17).

Thanks!


-- 
Dave Abercrombie                lyra!abe@infoserv.com
Oakland, CA                        abe@lyra.UUCP
(510) 652-7131                     abe@netcom.com
From: smike@santafe.Sitka.Sun.COM (Bruce Linde)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: WAS: *BAD* ..., etc.  IS:  get over it!
Date: 6 Nov 1992 19:50:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: santafe.sitka.sun.com

    this stupid endless flame is ridiculous.
    
    there are 10 responses for every real question or answer
    posted in this newsgroup.
    
    there are more appropriate places (isn't there a 'flame' newsgroup?) for
    this kind of long-term whining.
    
    not all of us have the luxury of running a newsreader that lets you
    filter out selected keyworded subjects, so:
    
    
	get over it!
	

    p.s.:  think it'll work?  i don't ...
From: rfisel@informix.com (Rick Fisel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: RFD REC.MUSIC.SYNTH.WHINE
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:24:33 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

HEY! GET A LIFE! Please at least have the decency to stop varying your subject
lines on this whine topic, so I can set my kill file once and for all. YOU
are what will drive me from this group! Flames to /dev/null.

Rick Fisel
-- 
Rick Fisel (rfisel@informix.com)
opinionated employee of opinionless
Informix Software
I prefer replies by email.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,news.groups
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Discussion/vote subject lines (was Re: *BAD*...)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:51:57 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee):
>In article <2AFE7023.886B@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>>When I ran the first comp.unix.* reorganization, I cross-posted the
>>RFD and CFV to the affected groups.  Its subject line was:
>>   {RFD|CFV}: Reorganization of comp.unix.*

Actually, I just checked my archives.  It was actually neither "CFD"
(they were "calls for discussion" back then) nor "CFV".  I spelled
them out:

   "CALL FOR DISCUSSION: Reorganization of comp.unix.*"
   "SECOND CALL FOR DISCUSSION: Reorganization of comp.unix.*"
   "CALL FOR VOTES: Reorganization of comp.unix.*"
   "FINAL CALL FOR VOTES: Reorganization of comp.unix.*"

And they _still_ complained!  *sigh*

>How many people do you think would have complained about comp.unix.wizards
>if you _hadn't_ put in a decent subject line?

*shudder*

>Are you really trying to argue that the fact that better subject lines
>don't eliminate _all_ the complaints means that you don't need them at all?

Of course not.  I do think, however, that their importance is overrated.
-- 
Chip Salzenberg at Teltronics/TCT  <chip@tct.com>, <73717.366@compuserve.com>
                 just another elitist Usenet administrator
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,news.groups
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: *BAD* music group reorg will not be honored
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:01:44 GMT

In article <5r=q3-c@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)  
writes:
> gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen) writes:
> 
> >> The situation is as fair as a real-life election, and quite probably
> >> more so. 
> >
> > If this were true, California ballots would be labelled Nevada and  
made
> > to look like junk mail. 
> 
> A CFV is *never* "junk mail".  Anyone who thinks otherwise should wise  
up
> or learn to live with the consequences. 
> 

You think all votes for all groups on the net are to be interested in? How  
much time DO you have on your hands?
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