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From: aihaug@austin.lockheed.com (Daniel A Haug)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Interleaf and X-windows
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:55:57 GMT
Organization: "Lockheed Austin Division, 6800 Burleson Rd, Austin, TX 78744

In article <1992Nov12.211602.10825@draco.macsch.com> todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams) writes:
>
>HEY INTERLEAF- Could somebody provide the latest and greatest release
>schedule status/plans ?  If you can't post it here, email me, and
>I'll post it for you, sworn to secrecy.

I got this reply from Interleaf:

------------------------ included text ------------------------
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 16:24:43 EST
From: heidi@newport.HQ.Ileaf.COM (Heidi Daitch)
Subject: Re: Interleaf and X-windows

Interleaf 5 for OPEN LOOK combines the benefits of Interleaf 5 with
the standard GUI - OPEN LOOK. Interleaf 5 for OPEN LOOK takes advantage
of the OPEN LOOK UI by supporting drag & drop, push pins, sliders, menu
buttons and more. Also, each document, folder, drawer, etc can be open
in their own top level windows (with window manager borders, etc).

It will be available in December 1992. 

Please feel free to forward this response to the net.
--------------------------------------------------------------


Its not clear from me, based upon either response, if this new
release will run on a standard MIT X server, or if it requires the
OpenWindows server. (??)  BTW - thanks for the info!

dan haug
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: olden@iib.bauwesen.th-darmstadt.de (Jan Olden)
Subject: doesn't print...
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:11:48 GMT
Organization: TH Darmstadt

It's probably a FAQ, but:

I'm using Interleaf 5.3.0 / sun4 on a SPARCstation 1+ under
Sun OS 4.1.1., connected to a HP Laser Jet III D with a 
HP PostScript Cartridge, 4 MB RAM.

It doesn't print (most times) !

Step by step:
The Postscript-files go to the right queue, stay there for
some time and with a little luck some of them appear on paper. 
After this act the printer stays busy forever: Message Daten-
bearbeitung (data execution) and blinking LED. The following 
job disappears - PS ready. 
Most jobs disappear after some execution time without any notice.
The (test-)jobs are quiet small, about 60 kByte, 2 pages.

I used Interleaf 4 for years at the same devices without 
complaints. (Oh - there was one "unprintable" example too, 
I never found the significant difference to the "friendly" ones 
and so our local sales- and servicemen didn't).

Usual Postscript-Files (Net, Sun-Demos) can be printed 
without problems.

If I produce pl-files, use pl2ps following to the printcap-entry
and execute lpr -Pmyqueue xy.ps, the same things will happen.
I can't apply pageview to the Interleaf ps-files due to 
Error:undefined, stack: executing a4tray.

The tip: comment out the line /mark 0 def in pspro.ps_5_3_0 
caused no changes.

BTW a second question: how do I compose (R1 a ") with a Sun 
Type 5 keyboard: the R1 key is missing :-)


So far, all hints are welcome.


Thanks, Jan

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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: jhu@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jun Hu)
Subject: Info about Interleaf
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:25:15 GMT

Hi, Is there X-window version of Interleaf existing for the
Unix Box? Where and Who should I contact to and what is the
price for such a software?

Thanks.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: tice@anapest.rtp.dg.com (Anne Tice)
Subject: Re: Info about Interleaf
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 14:25:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: tice@rtp.dg.com (Anne L. Tice)
Organization: Data General Corp, Research Triangle Park, NC 27709

In article <By0wA3.9IL@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, jhu@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Jun Hu) writes:
>Hi, Is there X-window version of Interleaf existing for the
>Unix Box? Where and Who should I contact to and what is the
>price for such a software?
>
>Thanks.
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computers running DG's DG/UX operating system.  Suggest you call
Interleaf Direct at 1.800.955.LEAF for informaton about X Window
version. 
------------------------------------
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Data General Corporation 
Research Triangle Park, NC 27709
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: craig@cadzook.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Craig.Williamson)
Subject: Interleaf for AutoCad users
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 03:58:29 GMT


A friend of mine was just transferred to our Tech Pubs department and now
is going to be using Interleaf after years of using AutoCad.  She will be
doing a lot of drawings and cleanup of existing drawings and finds Interleaf
not very usable from a CAD standpoint.  Is there any type of publication
or such to make the transition easier?

Craig

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From: nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk ("Philanthropic division complicators" Neilski)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Help with FMU
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:31:37 GMT
Reply-To: nrp@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: University of Reading

I'm trying to install Interleaf 5 on a SPARC 1+ with a PostScript printer and
I'm having more than a couple of problems.  Everything works fine - except
that I can't add the PostScript fonts with the FMU.  I've used AFM files
from both TranScript and OpenWindows 3 - addfont threw up on TranScript's
files but not on OW3's.  So I ran the Tabler, restarted the desktop ...
and no new fonts appeared.

Oh yes - and addfont complained about a bad device in ps_h - this
disappeared when I removed the line "proof device: cx" from ps_h.

What am I doing wrong?  I've been at this since Friday and it's driving me
potty.

-- neilski
i only want to use palatino :-(

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Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
From: tdphette@mke.ab.com (Thad Phetteplace x4461)
Subject: Re: importing graphics
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:20:47 GMT

ODULGERO@MIAMIU.BITNET () writes:
: hello, everybody.
: i'm having trouble importing PC screen snapshots into interleaf.
: i captured the pictures with pcx format, and used the software ALCHEMY
: to convert the .pcx files to .tiff files.
:  
: then i transferred those .tiff files into my interleaf desktop directory.
: but when i run the TIFFFILT conversion program, it tells me that there are
: NO STRIP OFFSET TAGS in my tiff files...
:  
: could somebody help me ????!!
:  
We use a program called hijack (sp) to capture PC screens.  It has built in
features to create tiff files that we are able to read in interleaf.  I
believe hijack is available on ftp.uu.net somewhere in the
systems.ibmpc.msdos hierarchy.

--
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Network Systems Analyst, Allen-Bradley Co.
Phone: (414)382-4461
Email: tdphette@mke.ab.com

The opinions expressed here are entirely my own and not that of my employer.
I am not a slob, I am simply doing an experiment in domestic entropy!
From: dave@gough.GoldCoast.co.jp (Dave Madden)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Help with FMU
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:03:44 GMT
Organization: Gold Coast Productions, Osaka, Japan [+81]6-241-6353
In-reply-to: nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk's message of 18 Nov 92 15:31:37 GMT

In article <nrp.722100697@reading> nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk
("Philanthropic division complicators" Neilski) writes:
 =>I'm having more than a couple of problems.  Everything works fine - except
 =>that I can't add the PostScript fonts with the FMU.  I've used AFM files
 =>from both TranScript and OpenWindows 3 - addfont threw up on TranScript's
 =>files but not on OW3's.  So I ran the Tabler, restarted the desktop...

I think you mean afm2ifm threw up...it's pretty (excessively) picky
about its input.  It likes AFM files formatted *exactly* the way they
come from Adobe (spaces and all), but can be convinced to run on other
files too.  You just have to read the error messages and tweak the AFM
file to fix whatever it's bitching about.

 =>and no new fonts appeared.

Make sure the font system (near the bottom of the Page Props property
sheet) is set to "ps".

 =>Oh yes - and addfont complained about a bad device in ps_h - this
 =>disappeared when I removed the line "proof device: cx" from ps_h.

Happened to me to, and I did the same thing (seems to work).  I dunno
why Interleaf doesn't fix this...maybe it works OK if you have a CX
printer.

Good luck.
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From: nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk ("Philanthropic division complicators" Neilski)
Newsgroups: comp.text.interleaf
Subject: Re: Help with FMU
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:06:36 GMT
Reply-To: nrp@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: University of Reading

dave@gough.GoldCoast.co.jp (Dave Madden) writes:

>In article <nrp.722100697@reading> nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk
>("Philanthropic division complicators" Neilski) writes:
> =>and no new fonts appeared.

>Make sure the font system (near the bottom of the Page Props property
>sheet) is set to "ps".

I got some mail from Interleaf which recommended this, which worked!
Thanks!

-- neilski

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Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.sys.sun.apps
From: bryan@uhura1.uucp (Bryan Curnutt)
Subject: Re: Alternatives to FrameMaker
Reply-To: bryan%uhura1@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Stoner Associates, Inc./DREM Incorporated, Houston Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:54:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.032553.3507@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> psrc@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Paul S. R. Chisholm) writes:
>>>If you want a word processor, you can get [MS] Word (yuck!)
>>Not on a Sun.  Microsoft doesn't sell Word for Suns.
>
>No, but WordPerfect(R) sells WP for Suns (and other UNIX(R)-based
>systems).  They now sell WP for UNIX 5.1, which is about as WYSIWYG as
>WP for [MS] Windows.

Don't want to start the "WordPerfect is awful" thread all over again,
but do want to warn anyone seeing the above:  Thoroughly evaluate
WordPerfect before you buy it.  (Actually, this should be done for
all software, but most particularly software that has a bad reputation,
which WP for UNIX does.)  Particularly evaluate printing from both
local and remote systems, and terminal support, and what a user can do
to quit from WP if s/he starts it using the wrong WPTERM, and whether
you routinely need to reboot the UNIX system or even just make sure
that no one on the network is using WordPerfect before killing the
license/print manager when problems arise (which they will).

I haven't seen 5.1, but we have WordPerfect 5.0 for Suns, and WP 5.0
is the reason we're looking for a different word processing package.
-- 
Bryan Curnutt, Systems Administrator, Stoner Associates, Inc.
bryan%uhura1@uunet.uu.net
Any opinions above are mine, not SAI's.
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.text
Subject: Re: FrameMaker Licensing
Keywords: FrameMaker, Licence
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:58:31 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Nov17.161056.28093@rzu-news.unizh.ch> suter@rsl.geogr.unizh.ch (Martin Suter) writes:
<
<We are currently evaluating a text processing system for our SUN-Sparcstations
<and we think FrameMaker (R) would be nice indeed. I've read an article
<on usenet which states:
<
<> ... As I understand it, you only need a license to start
<> using FrameMaker (if that), to save documents, and to print documents.
<> With a little discipline, several simultaneous users can get by with
<> one license.  I think our site has five licenses for thirty users ...
<
<Who has more information about this subject? Is the above statement true?

The above statement is not true.  If you have floating licenses, like we do,
you cannot have more people using FrameMaker than there are floating licenses.
In our case we have four.  The fifth person can't even open a document unless
there is a license available.

We are running 3.1X on SPARCstations.
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Newsgroups: comp.text
From: kmeek@cti.com (Kevin Meek)
Subject: Hypertext application for Xwindows (SUN)
Summary: Looking for hypertext application builder
Organization: Comprehensive Technologies Int., Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:36:14 GMT

I am searching for Xwindows based software that will provide a 
hypertext interface to a text database similar to the
help feature of Microsoft Windows.   The expected environment 
for this type of application is a Sun Workstation running Sun OS.

Requirements:

-- Can handle up to 600 pages of data
-- Full page graphical display including occasional bitmaps
-- Hot words that when clicked will jump to related sections
-- allows global word search


Please send any suggestions or Ideas to kmeek@cti.com
I will post a summary.


-- 
Kevin Meek 
kmeek@cti.com
Newsgroups: comp.text,comp.sys.sun.apps
From: psrc@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Paul S. R. Chisholm)
Subject: Re: Alternatives to FrameMaker
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:25:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.184250.4613@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu
(Richard Warner) writes:
>>If you want a word processor, you can get [MS] Word (yuck!)

In article <1992Nov14.031018.11000@uhura1.uucp> bryan%uhura1@uunet.uu.net
(whose name, I believe, is Bryan Curnutt) writes:
>Not on a Sun.  Microsoft doesn't sell Word for Suns.

No, but WordPerfect(R) sells WP for Suns (and other UNIX(R)-based
systems).  They now sell WP for UNIX 5.1, which is about as WYSIWYG as
WP for [MS] Windows.  WP is *not* FrameMaker(R); in particular, it has
no drawing tools.  (Unless some were added for WP/UNIX 5.1.)

(Richard Warner:)
>>management, FrameMaker is it.  And if you plan for max use and get
>>network floating licenses the price is considerably less than $2500/node.

(Bryan Curnutt:)
>... and is instead $2500/simultaneous user.

Well, not quite.  As I understand it, you only need a license to start
using FrameMaker (if that), to save documents, and to print documents.
With a little discipline, several simultaneous users can get by with
one license.  I think our site has five licenses for thirty users.
(Caveat:  we still have light usage.)

Paul S. R. Chisholm, AT&T Bell Laboratories/EasyLink Services,
att!pegasus!psrc, psrc@pegasus.att.com, AT&T Mail !psrchisholm
I'm not speaking for the company, I'm just speaking my mind.

FrameMaker is a registered trademark of Frame Technologies.
UNIX is a registered trademark of UNIX Systems Laboratories.
WordPerfect is a registered trademark of WordPerfect Corp.
Newsgroups: comp.text
From: umwan010@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nga T A Wan)
Subject: Include EPS in troff
Originator: umwan010@keyes.cc.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:17:25 GMT

	I am wondering if any one knows how to include Encapsulted
PostScript in a document to be formatted by troff.

	Please e-mail me or post to this news group.

	Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml
From: tomw@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Tom Worthington)
Subject: Net Research HDK MS Windows Hypertext
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:58:31 GMT

Net Research have a product "HDK" which is designed as for producing files
marked up for MS Windows help. It is an ad-in for MS Word for Windows
which adds commands for creating hypertext links and the like. They are
looking at have this work with SGML as well as the MS Windows Help format.
Anyone interested please contact:

Calvin Rowley
Net Research Pty Ltd
Level 67 MLC Centre
Martin Place
Sydney NSW 2000
Australia

ph:  +61 2 2387696
fax: +61 2 9534044
From: lav@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (John Lavagnino)
Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml
Subject: Re: short introduction needed.  relation to TeX?
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:30:13 GMT
Reply-To: lav@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

In article <ucc02aa.721738960@sun3>, ucc02aa@sun3.LRZ-Muenchen.DE
(Pilch) asks for SGML guidance with particular stress on relating it to
TeX.  One valuable resource is the journal of the (American) TeX Users
Group, TUGboat: since 1990 they've published numerous articles on
SGML+TeX work---such as my own in the issue of December 1991.  My
article has a discussion of the difficulties of using TeX as a language
for data representation, and the advantages of limiting TeX's role to
typesetting and using SGML to encode the data.  There have been many
other articles that focus on working applications that people have
devised: the issue without an SGML article in the last few years has
been rare.

Unfortunately, you'll have to find a paper copy of TUGboat somewhere,
since it isn't available electronically.


John Lavagnino
Department of English and American Literature, Brandeis University
Waltham, MA  02254   USA
Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml
From: steved@essex.com
Subject: General Info on sgml
Reply-To: steved@essex.com
Organization: Essex Information Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:41:06 GMT

I need to get some general info on sgml.  Is there a FAQ for this group?  If  
so, would someone please e-mail to me?

Also, are there any other documents anyone can share with me (e-mail, again - I  
don't have ftp access at the moment).

Our documentation folks never heard of sgml - I explained that at my former  
employer we were beginning to require our suppliers to submit documentation in  
sgml.  I'm only vaguely familiar with sgml, though, and promised to get some  
more detailed information...

Thanks in advance,

Steve

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Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml
From: tomw@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Tom Worthington)
Subject: SGML to Windows Help Translator?
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:48:29 GMT

I just got an ad for a product which takes the data definitions in a
CASE tool and generates a Microsoft Windows 3 help file. The idea is
to be able to distribute the information in an easy to use widely
available form.

Does anyone know of a similar product for translating SGML to Windows
Help format?
Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml,comp.infosystems.wais
From: riddle@is.rice.edu (Prentiss Riddle)
Subject: Wanted: SGML->WAIS tools, introduction to SGML
Organization: Ministry of Information, William's Marsh
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:58:49 GMT

I am looking for pointers to both software and introductory references
to help with what I hope will be a simple task:

I've recently learned that our library is considering the acquisition
of a large collection of literary and historical texts encoded using
SGML.  I'll be hoping to cobble together an SGML->something filter,
where "something" is a format suitable for indexing and serving out the
data via WAIS.  I don't need a general solution, just something that
will work for the particular collection of texts in question (the
"Patrologia Latina" published by Chadwick-Healey.)

I, like others, have noticed that it's hard to find a low-level entry
into SGML lore.  (Hint, hint -- a FAQ file would be very useful.)  Short
of ordering the standards from ISO, is there a good place for me to
find an overview of what SGML is all about?  And can someone recommend
the SGML software I should be looking at (public-domain preferred but
commercial also considered) for a task like the one I describe above?

Please reply by mail and I'll summarize if there is interest.  Thanks.

-- Prentiss Riddle ("aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada") riddle@rice.edu
-- Unix Systems Programmer, Office of Networking and Computing Systems
-- Rice University, POB 1892, Houston, TX 77251 / Mudd 208 / 713-285-5327
-- Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer.
Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml
From: russur@convex.com (Russ Urquhart)
Subject: Ventura -> SGML ? 
Summary: Need info on products to take Ventura chapters to SGML
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:22:00 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Keywords: Ventura, SGML
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Can anyone provide me with some Info. I'm trying to find out if there are any
products that will take Ventura chapters to SGML.

Any info is greatly appreciated!


Thanks


Russ
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 11:55:11 CST
From: C. M. Sperberg-McQueen <U35395@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.sgml
Subject: correction to SGML '92 trip report

Some individuals connected with the Euromath project for an SGML DTD
for mathematical formulae have expressed concern at misconceptions
possibly raised by my mention of their work in my recent report on
SGML '92, posted to this list.  In the interests of a fairer depiction
of their work, therefore, the text of the trip report ought really to
be amended as follows.

For

    (I was surprised to learn that the Euromath project
    had produced a very typographically oriented tag set,
    rather than the logical markup I had expected; the
    influence of TeX appeared to be the explanation.)

read

    (I was surprised to learn that the Euromath project
    had produced a tag set oriented to the typographical
    layout of the formula on the page, rather than the
    logically or semantically oriented markup I had
    expected --- one that would allow arithmetic expressions,
    for example, to be imported from SGML into spreadsheets
    or computer algebra programs; the difficulty of providing
    full semantic markup for all of known mathematics
    appears to have deterred them from attempting such a
    scheme.)

Obviously, as with any one-sentence description of a complex topic,
even the new description of the motivation behind the Euromath DTD
should be taken with a grain of salt.  It accurately summarizes my
perception of the general gist of the arguments various Euromath
participants have sent me lately, but it also simplifies them greatly,
and represents my interpretation, not their description, of their
reasoning.

Thank you.

-C. M. Sperberg-McQueen
 ACH / ACL / ALLC Text Encoding Initiative
 University of Illinois at Chicago