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From: v075q5fr@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Legal?
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:30:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BvtHL0.ICq@acsu.buffalo.edu>, dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti) writes...
>Sorry if this is a stupid question, but:

     It's not a stupid question.  It's actually, I think, a common one:

>Is it horrendously illegal for people to post Star Trek scripts
>(from the movies or series) to the newsgroup?  Scenes are always
>trimmed away in the final cut and it would be interesting to see
>things that the writers had envisioned but never made it to the screen.

     Yes, it is horrendously illegal.  Don't do it.  If it's done
     by someone else, by all means save and print it out - but 
     don't post it yourself.
     I believe the actual infringement comes under the "dissemination
     of copyrighted material" section of law, but I'm not sure of the
     particulars.  Only that, yes, again, it is horrendously illegal.

     A couple of months ago, the net discussed this when Margaret
     Wander Bonano declared her final, unaltered draft of PROBE
     public domain... and some of us who hadn't seen Margaret in
     a couple of years wanted to know how we could get our hands
     on a copy.  (Discussion results: it wasn't posted).

>Since licensed dealers sell scripts at conventions, I'm guessing 
>they are not illegal to own, and as long as you're not charging money
>to see it, no laws are broken by showing a script to someone else.

     Lincoln Enterprises are the only dealers authorized to legally
     sell STAR TREK scripts at conventions.  Lincoln was started by
     Gene Roddenberry and Majel Barrett in the 60s, and first 
     answered fan mail.  Now it's owned by Paramount and sells 
     "officially sanctioned" paraphenalia at conventions at 
     ridiculous prices (tho not as ridiculous as some local dealers).

     So they're ALLOWED, because they ARE Paramount.  Anyone else
     you see at a convention selling STAR TREK scripts are doing it
     illegally - and therefore, probably more cheaply -- so look
     for them.  :-)

                 Shortly  thereafter, the health of  Annie
                 Blackburn still in question, the behavior
                 of Special Agent  Dale Cooper was noticed
                 __________________________to have changed.
                                              Scott Gorcey.            
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: mpk9716@rigel.tamu.edu (Health Man)
Subject: TNG Orb or Knowledge Box Game
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:55:00 GMT


	Last night we played the new "box mystery" game.  It was a lot of fun,
but the group needs to be able to role play.  We found it on sale for $15.00,
I don't think I would have payed much more for it.  If you get a chance to 
play it, do so.  The game requires 8 people (Deanna, Ro, Will, Dr. Crusher,
Worf, Gordie, & Whoopie).  I got to play Deanna (I thought she would be
dumb--but I enjoyed playing her).  

More about the game:

The players hear a tape describing the situation

The players read a series of clues.  Then, start trying to figure out
who stole the orb.

As play progresses, physical evidence is introduced.

After about 2-3 hours of talk and looking at maps, etc. each player
describes what he or she thinks happened.

There really is no winner---it is just a fun time.

Email me for the spoilers if you really really wnat them

Mike




Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Worf in STVI: TUC
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:26:41 GMT

In article <Bw25q9.o7@cosy.sbg.ac.at>, bjelli@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Brigitte Jellinek) writes:
> 
> 
> I just read the quotes from STVI:TUC und hit on the name
> of the klingon who defended Kirk & McCoy in the trial: Colonel WORF.
> Now he can't possibly be the Worf of TNG. But then again ..??
> I *think* I saw Michael Dorns name in the credits, but I'm not too sure
> about that.
> 
> 
> So, please tell me:  WHO IS THIS WORF-PERSON SUPPOSED TO BE ?
> 
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
>      Brigitte


He's supposed to be the TNG Worf's (eponymous) grandfather.

Kellie M-S
internet::matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
From: stdnt163@whscdp.whs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Marcus TaiLore speaks: STV
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:48:44 GMT
Organization: Washington HS, Milwaukee, WI

X-NEWS: whscdp alt.startrek.creative: 79
From: stdnt163@whscdp.whs.edu
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Marcus TaiLore Speaks:STV
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:30:49 CST
Organization: Washington HS, Milwaukee, WI

Greetings and Salutations,
  Hello . I first like to say I'm not James Queen, the one of two creators of
Star Trek Voyages. I'm the other guy. My name is Marcus TaiLore and I figured
since I had the chance to post a message, I would. I'd like to tell you a
little more about Star Trek Voyages, our series based on Star Trek. This is our
second year and I want to tell you about it. So what can I tell you..hmm..
	Well this year is going to be great, I hope, only your response can
answer that question.
			"   A   N   Y   W   A   Y   "

		We are going to have new characters and return of our veterns
from last year. I have the pleasure of writing the finale of Year One and the
opener for Year Two. It'll be a two parter called "Skeletons In The Closet"
It's going to be different. I hope you have enjoyed reading STV and continue to
do so. And now for my theory on time travel....And now my theory on time travel
...And now for my theory on time travel....  
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: steve@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Steven Glinberg)
Subject: TAI & II promos available still?
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:40:35 GMT


Earlier, episode promos were posted of this format:
Realm of Fear

Episode #228			uplink dates:  9/26/92,  9/27/92


	STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: "Realm of Fear" -- A young Enterprise
	engineer is forced to confront his paralyzing fear of being transported.

	TRANSPORT-PHOBIA!

	Will a crew member's fear of transporting threaten a mission?

Man of the People

Episode #229			uplink dates: 10/03/92, 10/04/92



	STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: -- Troi is drastically transformed
	when a visiting ambassador secretly uses her to achieve his aims.




Does anyone happen to have to official such explanations for TA 1 @ 2 ?
I would rally like to know what was put out by paramount or whoever
in the order of tv guide listings or preferably the long one saying
ST:TNG: -- Troi is drast..... from above but for TAI and II.

Email is best I'm sure
Thanks a whole lot to whomever has such info,
steve@picard.cs.wisc.edu


Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: lennon@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Worf in STVI:TUCy
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:08:02 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Oct13.144140.32088@watson.ibm.com>, annie@fatboy.manassas.ibm.com () writes:
> In article <Bw25q9.o7@cosy.sbg.ac.at>, bjelli@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Brigitte Jellinek) writes:
> 
> He's the great-grandfather of TNGs Worf
> 
> -- 
> Brenda J. Molina                           annie@whoville.manassas.ibm.com
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      "What do I have to do to convince you people that I'm human?"
>      "Die."

Talk about redundant answers.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: BEST TEASERS????
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 13:49:42 GMT

In article <g92n3258.41.718806283@giraffe.ru.ac.za> g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL) writes:
>I'm not sure if this has been done yet, but we've already had people talking 
>about their favourite episodes, endings, actors, etc.  So here are, in my 
>opinion, the best and worst teasers...

>BEST:

TOS: In my opinion, "Balance of Terror" has the best teaser.  We have
a relaxing wedding scene, and then Sulu and Spock call the captain to
the bridge.  Kirk orders full ahead, Scott mutters something under his
breath as he hurries to his engines, and we hear the warpdrive
revving up (by the way, my favorite sound effect in either series).

-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
From: kfr@pro-freedom.cts.com (Kurt Roithinger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: is this really true?
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:22:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Oct14.142258.2723
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

i recently heard a rather persistant rumour that patrick mcgoohan is gonna
make an apearance on ST:TNG. i still think this is a joke. does anyone know
anything about this?

ProLine:  kfr@pro-freedom
Internet: kfr@pro-freedom.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-freedom!kfr
==============================================================
From: eaeu137@orion.oac.uci.edu (Andrew Theodore Laurence)
Subject: Re: tng font
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:29:33 GMT
Distribution: rec

In article <2AD74F10.11531@news.service.uci.edu> eaeu137@orion.oac.uci.edu (Andrew Theodore Laurence) writes:
>THere are fonts available for ftp on sumex-aim.stanford.edu;
>both are shareware, and Type 1. One is Crille (or a TNG clone), the
>other a adapted Crille for the titles. I believe that both (in addition
>to TOS and movie fonts) are archived in one package, startrek.hqx, or
>somesuch. They are intended for use with the Macintosh.
>
>Directory: info-mac/font
>
>later
>Andrew Laurence
>


OOPS!!

After receiving an email expressing concern for my insanity, I checked
the facts I rattled off from memory. Turns out that the font package is
at:
SITE: mac.archive.umich.edu
DIRECTORY: mac/system.extensions/font/type1
FILE: startrekfonts.cpt.hqx
 

The "hpx" indicates that the file is in BinHex format. Utilities such
as Stuffit Classic 1.6, Stuffit Lite 3.0, Compact Pro 1.3.x, BinHex 2.0
or deHQX can extract. The "cpt" indicates Compact Pro (or Compactor, as
it used to be known). Use the obvious, Stuffit Lite 3.0 or Stuffit Expander
to extract.

I noticed one called starfleet.hqx, but haven't seen it yet. It's there, 
tho'.

Later,
Andrew Laurence

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Subject: Anyone find Excelsior .gifs? 
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:56:34 GMT


I'm searching for gif images of the Excelsior or the Big E from ST6.
Has anyone out there ever seen any lying about in an anonymous FTP site
somewhere?  I already know of an extensive archive of Trek gifs at
procyon.cis.ksu.edu, but most are TNG.  Any others?

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gary L. Schroeder  		|  
schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov         |             Boo. 
Brookhaven National Laboratory  | 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: snoopy@crchh426.BNR.CA (Antonio Tello)
Subject: Re: William T. Riker
Reply-To: snoopy@crchh426.BNR.CA (Antonio Tello)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:56:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.150629.4654@mongrel.UUCP>, amdunn@mongrel.UUCP
(Andrew M. Dunn) writes:
|>
|>According to Jon Frakes this past Saturday, his character is now
|>called  "William Thomas Riker".  Apparently, Gene told him to stop
                                               ^^^^ (Roddenberry ?)
When did Gene tell him this ?
Was it recently ?
Perhaps in a dream ?

Or maybe Gene really isn't dead and _WE_ are all just having a bad dream !
or maybe we will see his half Romulan son created in a temporal rift
acting as executive producer this season !

  :) 

|>telling people the T stood for Thelonious.  
|>                
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or relatives. Please consult your parent, guardian, lawyer or local
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From: dchatham@utkvx1.utk.edu (Chatham, Doug)
Subject: Re: Real Evidenence of the Borg on Earth!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: borg
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:09:00 GMT

In article <23731@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu 
(J. Taggart Gorman) writes...
> 
>  Okay, here it is:
> 
>  On my campus, they have a program where companies from the "real world"
>come on campus to interview us peons who want jobs when we graduate.  We get
>a weekly list of who's coming, and it seems DEC (Digital Equipment
>Corporation) is coming soon.  Well, in the little burb about the positions
>being interviewed for, it says:
> 
>  "...various course offerings to assist in your corporate assismilation and
>your continued technical development."
> 
>  Eeek!
> 
>  The assismilation part is bad enough, but hell, they even state that you will
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ that's "assimilation"
>be modified ("technical development"!)!
> 
>  I'm not interviewing with them!
> 
>|--------------------------------|    "If you were happy all of your life,
>|      J. Taggart Gorman Jr.     |     you wouldn't be human - you'd be a
>| jtgorman@caslon.cs.arizona.edu |     game show host."
>|--------------------------------|             Winona Ryder, in _Heathers_


	Not interviewing is irrelevant!  Resistance is futile! You WILL be
assimilated into the Borg.

	Why do you resist? We only want to improve the quality of your lives,
especially your spelling.  (BTW, it's EVIDENCE, not EVIDENENCE)
From: eaeu137@orion.oac.uci.edu (Andrew Theodore Laurence)
Subject: Re: tng font
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:45:52 GMT
Distribution: rec

THere are fonts available for ftp on sumex-aim.stanford.edu;
both are shareware, and Type 1. One is Crille (or a TNG clone), the
other a adapted Crille for the titles. I believe that both (in addition
to TOS and movie fonts) are archived in one package, startrek.hqx, or
somesuch. They are intended for use with the Macintosh.

Directory: info-mac/font

later
Andrew Laurence
From: alanlb@bethesda.cs.vt.edu (Alan L. Batongbacal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: WANTED: 1991 Star Trek ornament
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:26:36 GMT
Reply-To: alanlb@csgrad.cs.vt.edu

I wish to purchase one of these, either alone or in combination
with the 1992 ornament, and will consider all reasonable offers.
Please send e-mail to the address below.

Thanks!

alan l. batongbacal
alanlb@csgrad.cs.vt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Re: Why is Wesley in Yesterday's Enterprise question
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 01:01:31 GMT

I think Wesley was there (if he was there - I mean, I'm sure he was, but I 
don't remember what he did) because if StarFleet's at war they need everyone
they can get, even young people, and especially brilliant young people.

Firestar

-- 
I don't bite, you know.    | Find me and turn thy | It is better to have loved 
Unless it's called for.    | back on heaven.      | and lost than to have your
-- Audrey Hepburn, Charade | -- R. W. Emerson     | finger caught in a blender.
*******************************************************************************
From: zebee@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: ST books - some observations
Date: 7 Oct 92 07:45:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au

With all the to-ing and fro-in about ST novel quality, herewith my 
very-humble-opinion.
  
I haven't read either Probe or Imzadi, I too am waiting for the paperback.

Why?  Well, A$30 or so is too much for a book I may only read once.  I only
buy one author in hardback routinely - Dorothy Dunnet.  

I have read one of Peter David's books - Vendetta.  On first reading, I was 
very impressed.  I liked it a lot, it didn't seem to suffer from the 
stiltedness of some books, or the gush of others.  The characters were down
well, and the dialogue and action well done.

BUT

I haven't been able to read it again.  Not sure why either.  Perhaps because the
interest the first time was the plot, and once I knew what was going to happen
the writing wasn't good enough to hold me.

As a contrast, I have read all of Diane Duane's ST novels several times.  With
her the plots are good, but the writing is enough to get me to re-read the
books just to delight in the dialogue.  I have also read Lois McMaster Bujold's
Vorkosigan books several times with equal enjoyment each time.  (In fact
I read Brothers in Arms twice in 4 days).

Barbara Hambly did it for me in Ishamael, but her other ST book (can't
even remember the name - Ghost HUnters?) was so awful on a quick flip
through that I didn't bother buying it.

So ST novels are like all other books - some good, some bad, some average.
Usually if you liked an author's other books (as I liked Hambly's) then
you'll like their ST stuff.  The ratings that Otto posts are probably a good
guide, if lots of people liked it, then it's worth a try.


-- 
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     Zebee Johnstone  DoD #605   | You don't own an Italian motorcycle 
     Adelaide City Council       |  - you merely have the privilege 
    zebee@itd.adelaide.edu.au    |    of paying its bills.... 
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From: jill@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Jill Hollifield)
Subject: Re: German "Star Trek"
Organization: Coordinating Centers For Biometric Research, University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:17:49 GMT

In article <92286.102409A410JACQ@HASARA11.BITNET> A410JACQ@HASARA11.BITNET (Jacqueline Cote) writes:
>I don't know the exact wording of the TNG, since I stopped watching it quite
>some time ago, but the wording of the TOS is quite different and starts with:
> 
>" Das Weltall.... Unentliche Weiten..... Dies sind die Abentuer des Raumschiffs
>Enterprise auf ihre Suche (then some stuff I forgot. Sorry it has been over a
>decade....) ........ und dringt in Galaxien vor, die nie ein Mensch zuvor
>gesehen had"
> 
>Though Dutch, I do speak/understand German and watched the show in the 70's
>when I was a kid. In fact, in learned German by watching Star Trek diligently,
>as well as 'Raumschiff Orion', an excellent German SF series.
> 
>Jacqueline
Oh, wow!  Could you post or e-mail this is Dutch?

Dank U!

Jill


Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
Subject: Muldaur, was Re: Beverly Crushers year long absence on ST: TNG
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:26:04 GMT

In article <BvtHyE.Ip4@acsu.buffalo.edu> dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti) writes:
>Off the show:  The producers were not happy with the character.  They did
>               not feel there was enough chemistry between her and Picard.
>               So they let Gates go and brought in Diana Muldaur, and 
>               attempted to portray the doctor as more of an antagonist 
>               to Picard.  This seemed to me to be an attempt to re-create
>               the Kirk-McCoy abrasiveness that made TOS more lively.
>               By the end of Season 2 the producers were not happy with
>               Pulaski, either.  And (I think) a lot of fans wrote in that
>               they wanted Gates McFadden back, but I don't know if the 
>               letters influenced their decision or not.  But obviously 
>               they brought her back.   
>
>-- 
>Don Dianetti  --  SUNY at Buffalo  --  dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu
>----------------------------------------------------------------

	I heard that some of the cast members didn't get along with
Diana Muldaur, and that this was also a factor.  This was hardly from an
official source.  Could anyone confirm/deny?

	- Gord, a.k.a. glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
From: cabanc@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: O'Brien and thoughts on rank
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:08:51 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY


	After following the chain about O'Brien's rank I can't help
but put my 2 Cents in.  First, I think the reason everybody thinks
there are no enlisted ranks in Starfleet comes from one of the
technical manuals printed about the old Star Trek.  It really doesn't
make sense that a group as large as starfleet has no enlisted ranks.  
	Starfleet is a quasi-military organization.  I say quasi
because really starfleet doesn't want to fight, also it gets into
situations where a military man would say "hell, kill them all".  But
the tactical organization is military, they are under a military form
of discipline.  
	If starfleet is staffed with just officers, where are they
getting them from?  They couldn't all go to the academy.  Yes some
like doctors seem to have a kind of reserve rank (as long as they
serve they are under the system).  Plus for some jobs you don't need a
genius. .  Actually for some military (and navy) you want somebody
unimaginitive who will stay at his position and not be bored.  With a
ship with several hundred people you have some people who's job
is just to move things or watch dials?  Yes I know they have computers
but you still need a backup.  And BAttlestations!  They usually are
backup positions in case the machine breaks.  I always had the
impression on the original that the ones in the jump suits were
enlisted.
	As for O'Brien, I believe he's enlisted.  Didn't Worf's
adopted father call him a "petty officer".  I agree, "Chief" may be
his title.  As long as you're in the transporter section, he's in
charge.  Contrary to popular opinion, Enlisted Personnel are in the
chain of command.  The last word of NCO is Officer. Probably, he is a
warrant officer equivalent because of his technical expertise.belpahe
	Military rank can sometimes be sticky.  Are you in the chain
of command?  Are you ordering  gainst a higher authority?  Do
I respect you personally enough to obey or should I just frag you now?
	Or probably the most possible, the writers haven't figured our
O'Brien's rank yet.  
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: henryk@miki.pictel.com (Keith Henry)
Subject: Beverly Crushers year long absence on ST:TNG
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:52:16 GMT

What was the official explanantion (both on show and off) for the absence of
Beverly Crusher for the year that the actress Diana Muldare (sp?) was chief
medical officer?

Inquiring minds what to know.

/keh
From: dennis@coos.dartmouth.edu (Anna Szeto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: TNG - Quantum Leap Music Similarities (kind of)
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:02:51 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


Speaking of the rerun of "Booby Trap" (which I too just saw last night),
I noticed one big problem with Data and I wondered if anyone else noticed
it.

When the Away Team was on the other ship, Data used his tricorder to locate
the distress signal that was coming from that ship.  When he found it,
he said, "I believe the source of the distress signal is coming from
over there."

I should think that, being an android and all, Data would know not say 
"The source is coming from..." but rather just "The source is located 
there."  Unless the _source_ is moving, it's not "coming from" anywhere!
The signal comes from, the source just is.

Just my little comments.  Yes, I'm a stickler.
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