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From: francis@mpl.ucsd.edu (Francis C Felizardo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Filipino movies
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:25:39 GMT
Organization: Scripps Institution of Oceanography
NNTP-Posting-Host: kiko.ucsd.edu

In article <Jul20.230400.67017@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> lagman@CS.ColoState.EDU (annette) writes:
>From: lagman@CS.ColoState.EDU (annette)
>Subject: Re: Filipino movies
>Date: 20 Jul 92 23:04:00 GMT

>In article <l6lls7INNppb@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> zax@kenpo.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>>
>>Why do Filipino movie plots are always the same, like;
>>
>>rags to riches
>>riches to rags
>>success then revenge
>>adultery (kaliwaan)
>>start with a comedy plot then ending with drama (o.a.)
>>someone will die of "alta-presyon" (sp?)
>>
>>It seems like the movies they make consists of some or all
>>mentioned above.
>>
>>
>>
>>---sonny

>        I agree that the majority of Filipino films deal with trivial
>        topics such as those mentioned above, but not all.  From
>        Francis' list, for instance, are Kisapmata which deals with
>        incest and Oro Plata Mata, about the horrors of war.  

I'd like to second Annette here. Actually, WRT Kisapmata, I thought the 
strongest point of the movie was the directing - how Mike de Leon manages 
to weave in a lot of detail in the story line. It's almost like reading 
a short story (actually the movie was based on a story in Nick Joaquin's 
Reportage on Crime with Mike's very liberal artistic license on the 
incest angle.) It also helps that the movie had a very strong cast.

In many cases, a simple story with a decent script can be made into a great 
movie by good story telling. Kung Mangarap Ka't Magising definitely falls 
in this category.

We should also distinguish between movies that are commercial and movies 
that are artistic. Category A represents the bulk of Philippine movies 
while category B movies usually coming out during the Manila Film Festival. 
There is a very big difference in craftsmanship between the two categories.

>        I have heard it said that one of the (few, imho) good things to
>        come out of the marcos years was that imelda's support of the
>        arts in some way enabled good films to be produced, and that
>        the aquino gov't.'s almost total lack of support contributed to
>        the present decline in quality.  

Agreed. Personally, I think Cory Aquino can significantly improve the 
overall quality of Philippine movies by simply stopping her daughter from 
making movies. *grin* I think Kris Aquino is really cute but her acting and 
movies are simply unbearable.

>        annette

Comments welcome.

   - Francis
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Francis C Felizardo				francis@mpl.ucsd.edu
Scripps Institution of Oceanography, 0213	      (619) 534 1085
La Jolla, CA 92093-0213
From: francis@mpl.ucsd.edu (Francis C Felizardo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Filipino Movies With English Subtitles
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:58:44 GMT
Organization: Scripps Institution of Oceanography
NNTP-Posting-Host: kiko.ucsd.edu

In article <71192817728169@clone.mcs.anl.gov> calima@clone.mcs.anl.gov (Odilio J. Calima) writes:

>    Is there a Filipino movie with English subtitles?

I can remember three: 'Oro, Plata, Mata' and 'Aguila' which are in my 
'calibration' list and 'Mga Ibong Mandaragit (Birds of Prey)' which is 
pretty recent. I actually met the director (I can't remember his name. He 
also directed 'Miss X'.) when the MIT Filipino Students Association 
sponsored a screening of the film.

Oro, Plata, Mata was made to compete in the 1981 Manila International Film 
Festival so the use of subtitles is obvious. 

Mga Ibong Mandaragit was made by the director here in the US and it was 
targetted for the art film audience. I liked the basic storyline but the 
movie looks low budget. Gina Alajar's acting was quite good. 

I can also remember a movie from several years back called 'Unfaithful Wife' 
starring Michael de Mesa, Anna Marie Guttierez and Joel Torre. I thought it 
was a good movie with a good story, good production values and good acting. 
They were advertising it as an entry for the Foreign Movie section of the 
Oscars. This should have a version with subtitles.

I actually wouldn't be surprised if you can find subtitled versions of Lino 
Brocka, Mike de Leon and Marilou Diaz-Abaya movies because they have done 
retrospectives on these directors in various film festivals abroad.

Oh yeah, there's another Filipino art film with subtitles: 'Mababangong 
Bangungot' (Perfumed Nightmares) by Kidlat Tahimik (Quiet Lightning). I 
doubt if you can find that in your local video store.

I saw 'Brown Emmanuelle' ages ago and I'm not sure if the movie had 
subtitles. I think it did. This movie supposedly belongs in the 'adult' 
category but it will probably get an 'R' rating here in the US. It's also 
one of the stupidest movies I have seen.

Comments welcome.

   - Francis
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Francis C Felizardo				francis@mpl.ucsd.edu
Scripps Institution of Oceanography, 0213	      (619) 534 1085
La Jolla, CA 92093-0213
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: calima@clone.mcs.anl.gov (Odilio J. Calima)
Subject: Filipino Movies With English Subtitles
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:49:37 GMT

    Is there a Filipino movie with English subtitles?

    If nobody knows, how come we don't have any?

    Are they [Filipino movies] that good that we want
    to keep it to ourselves?

    Or are they that _BAD_ that we don't want Americans
    (or others) to watch/see them?

    Or neither.  Maybe nobody has just thought about it.

    Comments welcome.

-----
Odie Calima  6^) calima@earth.eecs.uic.edu  6^) calima@mcs.anl.gov
From: aimee@wpd.sgi.com (Aimee Manosa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: arhiving SCF
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:39:46 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


Is anybody out there archiving SCF posts?  I got email from someone
who doesn't have access to the newsgroup, but would like to get mail
if anyone at all is archiving it.



-- 
        ~
Aimee Manosa		aimee@wpd.sgi.com
			Silicon Graphics, Inc
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
From: pacs@leland.Stanford.EDU (Francisco Sandejas)
Subject: Re: Metro Manila Private Schools
Summary: more on Southridge and Woodrose 
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 00:01:24 GMT

In article <2772@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> ador@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (Susu gedeh!) writes:
>Xavier School, Southridge, International School, Woodrose, etc.
>
>How about Sapang Palay Barangay High School or other
>barangay schools? 
>
>If only those who are rich enough to send someone to any of these
>would donate...
etc, etc.

I know that many people have notions that Southridge is an elitist
school and all that... Since, I'm from there and so are my brothers.
Our sisters go to Woodrose (or went to). 

The fact is that we do support a night school which is made available
to the poor people. This is completely free for them. And not only the
students, alumni and their families help, so do many others who]
have no connection to the school.

Also, the students do go to the neighboring public schools to help
out to teach catechism (to desiring students of public schools)
or to organize Christmas parties for their families. The batches
after me also organizes work camp projects to help 
towns in poor provinces, etc, etc...

That's all I wanted to add. Just to make sure you don't
think that the PAREF schools are not trying.

paco

PS PAREF stands for Parents for Education Foundation.
It is not Jesuit, neither is it Opus Dei. But, yes, some
members of Opus Dei who have children there are on the boards
of these schools.
From: francis@mpl.ucsd.edu (Francis C Felizardo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Some Are Smarter Than Others
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:57:21 GMT
Organization: Scripps Institution of Oceanography
NNTP-Posting-Host: kiko.ucsd.edu

In article <1992Jul28.003036.13851@odin.corp.sgi.com> aimee@wpd.sgi.com (Aimee Manosa) writes:


>In article <fragante.712279301@unixg.ubc.ca>, fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante) writes:

>|> Read the same book and after putting it down, I hate those guys even more -
>|> especially two in particular who were so ruthless to the innocent farmers. I'm
>|> quite impressed with the detailedness of the book. It's hard to prove whether
>|> they are truth or fact, but if you read other similar tell-all books/white
>|> papers - they're more similar than scattered.

>I guess it's hard to know what part of it is truth and what is fictitious,
>but boy, did this book really scare me. 

>It's amazing how they were able to come up with all that information.  Truth
>or not, it just all made sense, logically.  At least for the portions I've
>read.

>Whether or not I believe it, hmmm....gotta finish it first.

>-- 
>        ~
>Aimee Manosa            aimee@wpd.sgi.com
>                        Silicon Graphics, Inc

Now that you've whetted our appetites, how about giving us more info? What'
s the book about? Where did you get it? How much? When was it published? Who'
s the author? etc. etc.

   - Francis
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Francis C Felizardo				francis@mpl.ucsd.edu
Scripps Institution of Oceanography, 0213	      (619) 534 1085
La Jolla, CA 92093-0213
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: ASEAN Ministers Urge Cooperation
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:01:26 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- Foreign ministers of the Association of
Southeast Asian Nations urged increased cooperation Tuesday, including a
regional free trade pact, as the region struggles to redefine its
economic and security needs in the post-Cold War era.
	Philippine President Fidel Ramos said the decline of East-West
tension thrust both new challenges and new opportunities on Asia.
	``The fast-breaking changes in the international community impart
renewed urgency to increase ASEAN cooperation for regional security,
economic growth and a wide variety of other endeavors,'' he said.
	Thai Foreign Minister Arsa Sarasin told conference delegates rising
trade blocs across the globe made it imperative that ASEAN push ahead
efforts to create a regional free trade area within 15 years.
	``It is our response to the challenge of greater economic competition
in the world,'' he said.
	Diplomats said the ASEAN meeting provides a valuable forum to discuss
growing concerns, such as uncertainty with the diminishing U.S. military
role in Asia, territorial disputes and competition for natural
resources.
	Foreign ministers of the six ASEAN nations -- Thailand, the
Philippines, Singapore, Malaysia, Brunei and Indonesia -- invited their
counterparts from the United States, Japan, China, Russia, Vietnam, Laos
and other countries to participate in the talks.
	Many ministers called for greater defense and security cooperation in
the region, although none thought such an effort would be easy.
	Ministers praised Vietnam and Laos, who are working to join the
organization. Ramos urged the association to increase further both the
number of its members and the scope of its cooperation.
	``ASEAN cooperation has become urgent ... in protecting the regional
environment, arresting the growing menace of piracy in regional waters,
checking the illicit drug trade and dealing the with the large-scale
migration of workers across national boundaries,'' he said.
	Indonesian Foreign Minister Ali Alatas called for rich and poor
nations to form a global partnership to foster economic development,
while protecting the environment.
	However, echoing sentiments of several ASEAN ministers, he said major
donor countries and institutions should not impose environmental or
human rights restrictions on economic aid.
From: gustilo@POBOX.UPENN.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Olympics -- Phil Results
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:56:28 GMT

Boxing
Lightweight -- First Round: Ronald Chavez, Philippines, def. Emil Rizk,
Egypt, 18-10.

Light-welterweight -- First Round: Arlo Chavez, Philippines, def. James
Moses,
Nigeria, 12- 6

Judo
Men's 78 Kg -- Round 2: Krzysztof Kaminski, Poland, def. John Baylon,
Philippines

Standard Disclaimer: 
    I am not responsible for comments that I make after 3:00 a.m. or after
5 cups of coffee, whichever comes first.
From: slbxk@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Filipino Friendship Club
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:34:49 MDT
Organization: Utah State University



                   FRIENDSHIP CLUB

                   From the Editor
           -------------------------------


Dear friends,

     We are all far away from home, home town, home city, home
motherland. We each have the same dreams, dreaming about pursuing
a higher degree in education, accomplishing a wonderful task in
our own life, getting a satisfying job, climbing to a higher
class in life... But we feel lonely, terribly lonely, we need
friends, and love. Loneliness is like a killer, threatening us
every friday evening, saturday, sunday, holidays, even in daily
life. Why not let us gather together to get rid of loneliness, to
find ourselves companionship, to enjoy love or friendship! Let's
provide ourselves to the society and meet many people and choose
the one we want to be with, the one we love, but we have not met
yet.

     Good luck to all of you, dear friends!



                                       Editor


     P.S.

     For APPLICATION FORM please write to:

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From: ken@batman.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: I haven't a clue...HELP!
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:12:58 GMT
Reply-To: ken@netmail.austin.ibm.com (Ken Goach)
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


Can anyone shed some light on this? I've always wondered.

1. My grandfather emigrated from Czechoslovakia to the U.S. 
   around the turn of the century.

2. Our last name is Goach.

3. Is our name an "Ellis Island-ism"? Was it coined because
   some immigration worker couldn't spell (or pronounce) our
   real last name?

4. If this really is our last name, how was it spelled before?
   If not, what could it have been (how was it changed or
   truncated)?


All I know is my dad was born and raised in Hazelton, PA and that
both his parents were Czech immigrants.

I really am curious. I kinda feel lost without knowing this. I
don't have a lot of relatives to track down and ask, but the ones
I do (from that side of the family) have Czech last names or English-
spelled variations (Ondeck, Ducheck, etc).

I want to find out more. I feel like I don't have a heritage because
I don't know about this. Recognized minorities have a sense of
ethnicity and share some kind of past. Maybe that's what I'm curious
about. We really don't have any special traditions in my family 
(except opening presents on Christmas Eve, but that's from my mom's
German heritage). I really don't know anything about what it is to
come from a Czech background - I'm white trash from the suburbs.

Heck, I didn't know what a kolache was until 3 years ago!


Thanks,

Ken


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From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: women's last name endings
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:03:34 GMT
Reply-To: tony2@prefect.cc.bellcore.com
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

In article <1992Jul23.171447.12345@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> tmm@po.CWRU.Edu (Todd M. Michney) writes:

>                [stuff deleted]

>Also, I was under the impression that different Slavic languages use slightly
>different endings to render last names feminine (all end in -a) -- for
>instance, I believe Polish uses -ska for -sky.  Can anyone contribute to or
>refute my hunch?

Here are my '3 grosze' (2 cents) on the above subject:

Many (~ 50% ?) Polish names end in -ski (_not -sky) or -cki
(pronounced -tski) - that's how many adjectives are
formed from nouns in Polish.

Polish uses both versions of feminine name endings:
-ska (or -cka (pronounced -tska)) if the masculine
name ends in -ski (or -cki);
or -owa, if the masculine form has a different ending (like mine).
Thus, my mother would often be called 'pani Gozdziowa'
in my parents' little town.
However, the latter form is less popular as the
masculine form is often used (but _never_ with -ska or
-cka!). Thus, 'Anna Kowalski' sounds awful to my ears here 
in the States.

To complicate matters even more, there are two endings for
misses' last names: -anka or -o'wna, but these forms are becoming less
popular and are never used with names ending with -(s/c)k(i/a).

Tony

Antoni S. Gozdz                               | Bellcore     NVC 3X-261
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: miro@me.utoronto.ca (Miro Kalovsky)
Subject: Re: Project on national conflict
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:17:09 GMT

SSEN@auvm.american.edu (Shinjinee Sen) writes:

>I am a graduate student at the School of International Service, the American
>University (Washington DC), working on a project on national conflict.  My test
>case for a theory I am examining is Czecho-slovakia. I have an extensive biblio
>graphy, but would love to get current information (as the newspapers seem to
>report news only when something like elections or a President's resignation
>happens).  I would especially appreciate input from scholars in Czecho-slovakia
>I don't know either Czech or Slovak, but do know Russian.  Please reply to my
>e-mail address. I will reply after Tuesday July 28 (with a summary of pertinent
>information for those interested).

>Thanking you
>Shinjinee Sen

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To subscribe Carolina send the e-mail message with subject "Carolina/Eng:
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The subscription is free.

Miro Kalovsky
University of Toronto
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From: hlynka@server.uwindsor.ca (Myron Hlynka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: slovak and ukrainian languages
Keywords: slovak, ukrainian
Date: 22 Jul 1992 16:14:38 GMT

I have a question to the Slovak speakers. Which language is
closer to Slovak - Czech or Ukrainian?

I am of Ukrainian background. But I know that my surname,
Hlynka, also exists in Slovak (spelled Hlinka). 

There is a Slovak radio program on the University of Windsor
radio station right after the Ukrainian program. I can 
follow most of it. Other languages, like Russian or Polish, are
much harder for me to understand. So Slovak seems to me to be the 
language closest to Ukrainian. 

Is the converse true? Is Ukrainian the language closest to Slovak?
(I know the alphabets are different - I am referring to the 
spoken language.)

The names in Ukrainian and Slovak are also similar. I know Slovaks
with the names Timko, Kowal, and Perunko - all of which sound very
Ukrainian to me. In fact I know some Ukrainian Kowal's.

Any comments. I would prefer the opinion of someone who knows
Slovak and not Czech, since I have found that if a person knows
both languages, that person tends to minimize the differences
between them.

                                 Myron Hlynka
                                 University of Windsor

Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: synek@Cadence.COM (Kamil Synek)
Subject: Re: Czech Fruit Dumblings (was: Maybe this will be a FAQ)
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:31:56 GMT

In article <36258@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan) writes:
>Yes, (melted) butter and cinammon-sugar. Yum, yum, yum, yum, yum!
>
>Tom Marvan.

Cinammon-sugar sounds good (tastes good), but there is nothing like ground
walnuts or almonds, mixed with sugar and doused with melted butter.

Kamil Synek
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: peter@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (peter.pavlovcik)
Subject: Re: Request info on Stasny name.
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:37:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.095438.12648@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK> g.matas@ee.surrey.ac.uk (George Matas) writes:
>became Frantisek Blahova.  I don't know how to show the absurdity of the
>name to non-Czech/Slovak speakers, but the first name is male while the
>surname must be female. 
>
How about "A boy named Sue"? (hope you like Johnny Cash)

			Peter Pavlovcik , peter@iexist.att.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: tmm@po.CWRU.Edu (Todd M. Michney)
Subject: Re: Request info on Stasny name.
Reply-To: tmm@po.CWRU.Edu (Todd M. Michney)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 19:59:12 GMT


In a previous article, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) says:

>In article <45419@shamash.cdc.com> slc@a2.cim.cdc.com (Steve Chesney x4662) writes:
>>I would like to know more about the name Stasny (meaning "happy").  A 
>>Bunch of diacriticals belong over letters, it pronounces close to
>>"Chesney" with a soft 's'.
>
>Are you sure it isn't S^tastny ??

Or even S^t^astny (Slovak word for happy)?
-- 
Todd Michney (tmm) | "Largo al factotum, della citta.  Presto a bottega
 che l'alba e gia.  Ah, che bel vivere, che bel piacere per un barbiere
 di qualita!"
            Figaro, No. 2 Cavatina, _Il barbiere di Siviglia_
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: stepan@natinst.com (Stepan Riha)
Subject: Female name endings (was Re: Request info on Stasny name.)
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:48:03 GMT

The previous was a discussion of what the -ova ending is about in female last
names.

In article <1992Jul22.183955.24423@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> peter@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (peter.pavlovcik) writes:
...
>
>On the other hand, the usual meaning of the "-ova" suffix for
>nouns is "belonging to" or "belogs to". For example "Jan's book"
>would translate as "Janova kniha". Therefore my mother's last name
>"Pavlovcikova" could be interpreted (not that it really is) as "belonging
>to Pavlovcik" (my father's name). I'm just trying to point out where
>this "-ova" most likely came from.
>
...

The following may aply to czech only (?)

It is true that the ending -ova is the female possessiv case of certain (male)
nouns and it's could be the origin of the ending in the name.  In a name,
though, the ova' is pronounced with a long "a'" rather than the possessiv
case which is a short "a".  Also, in names that derive from an adjective like
S^t^astny' (happy) or Zeleny' (green), the female ending is the feminine form
of this adjectiv, i.e. S^t^astna' or Zelena'.  The same is true for names the
derive from nouns, i.e. for the name Jahoda (strawberry), the female form is
Jahodova' (as in strawberry juice) rather then Jahodova (as in the strowberry's
juice).  In this case, the male name could be considered a noun and the
female name an adjective.  (I have no idea how non-native speakers can learn
czech, it would drive me nuts.)

Any linguists on the net care to commnet?

Stepan



-- 
   Stepan Riha -- stepan@natinst.com