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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Slow Internal Hard Drive Performance on 3000/25 (
From: hoffmann@nutmeg.ntu.edu.au (Arthur Hoffmann)
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:51:02 +0900
Distribution: world
Organization: Information Technology, Northern Territory University

In article <69337@cup.portal.com>, stb@cup.portal.com (Stan Robert Hodge) writes:
> Help...
> 
> I have a 3000/25 with 2Meg chip 4Meg SC ram.  This is one of the very early
> 3000's (40Meg HD [Q P40]).  It is running 2.04.
> 
> Last week I was using my friends (new) 3000/16 (50Meg [LP52]) and I ran
> 'SYSINFO 3.01' and did a speed test of his drive.  
> 
> This 3000/16 showed 1.1 MegBytes/sec!
> 
> Running this same test on my 3000/25 shows only 770 KBytes/sec ???
> 
> Thinking that I must have upgradded something wrong I backed up the system
> and ran prod_prep from the 3000 Install (ver 2.04) disk.
> 
> Same results.
> 
> I am confused.  Is the 52Meg drive really 25% faster than the 40Meg?
> 
> Digging a bit further I found a difference in the fastfilesystem between
> the two machines.  My 3000/25 has the rev 35 fastfilesystem (size 22412)
> and the 3000/16 had rev 2 of the fastfilesysem (size 20??? [I don't have
> the exact number in front of me].  These numbers were reported from
> hdtoolbox.
> 
> If it makes any difference I still have a 1.3 partition on the drive.
> 
> Some time ago I read some talk about the mask value for the filesystem.
> It was set to 0xfffffffc by prod_prep.  I changed it to 0xfffffffe but
> had no difference.
> 
> 
> What are the correct setups here... and are these the type of numbers
> I should be seeing? (Commadore?? [Dave H])?
> 
> 
>                                         Thanks
>                                         Stan Hodge
>                                         stb@cup.portal.com
>                                         
>                                        
Hi, I don't know what your problem is, but I am having similar problems with my
Quantum LPS105. My transfer rate is only about 800k. My amiga is also one that
still has a 1.3 partition and the 2.04 ROM on disk.
I just thought we might have the same problem. (mine is a 25mHz model too.)

Arthur.

					Arthur Hoffmann
					hoffmann@nutmeg.ntu.edu.au
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 1200 with '040 ?
Date: 19 Nov 92 06:46:12 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany
Keywords: 1200

In article <1992Nov16.172702.3226@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> ajs@news.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Andrew Satterthwaite) writes:
 >
 >but I was wondering wether it would
 >be possible to plug a 68040 into an A1200. I realise it may need a host board

Yes. But that's a viable option.

 >or something but surely it wouldn't be that difficult for GVP or someone
 >to come up with something, and as it wouldn't need extra 32 bit memory (as
 >the A1200 has got it already) it should be fairly cheap compared to A500/2000
 >'040 accelerators.

Hmm, but an 040 without own Fast RAM would sound really crippled, you know
that access to Chip RAM is sort of speed limited. No, you definitely would
want some RAM on that processor board.

 >	Is this a daft idea, or is it a possibility ... 

Yes, definitely. This is exactly what the trapdoor expansion is thought for.
But I can't guess about prices, sorry.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: olson@dstl86.gsfc.nasa.gov (Paul Olson)
Subject: Re: HD ad infinitum
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Mission Operations and Data Systems
Date: 17 Nov 1992 08:50 EST  

In article <37083@cbmvax.commodore.com>, lassa@cbmvax.commodore.com (Paul Lassa) writes...
>[stuff deleted]
>would be a useful product for those with LD-equipped amigas.  And yes, it
>is technically feasible.  That's all a C= engineer can tell you.  Maybe
>you should make your request known to your dealer, as I'm sure (s)he's in
>contact with C= Sales/Marketing.
>-- 
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>1200 Wilson Dr. West Chester, PA, 19380		- (see other side)

Paul,

Not to slam the C= hardware department (I love the machines), but it seems to
me that a responsible company wouldn't refer a customer back to a dealer when
they've just contacted a person within the company.  Are you hardware guys cut
off from the rest of the company?  If I was a C= hardware engineer with access
to the net, I'd be CCing all the new product suggestions through interoffice
mail envelopes to the head of marketing, not telling a customer to do it
through a dealer.  We all know how lousey communications are between C= and
dealers.  Is your type of attitude endemic throughout C=?  Perhaps that's why
C= shows up in the "Other-10%" section on a pie chart of ownership by machine
type, i.e. lack of responsiveness to customer requests/suggestions.  It's
probably a good thing I don't work for C=.  I'd have someone's head over a
comment like yours.

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From: ad2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ahmad Durrani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Somebody clarify this point
Date: 23 Nov 1992 16:43:12 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: kea.doc.ic.ac.uk
Keywords: hard disk, IDE, A1200


Hello folks


I want to know for sure that if I buy an A1200, as is, ie. NOT an A1200HD,
then can I myself install a 2.5" hard disk, without any other modifications ??

ie. I won't need to buy extra hardware / software to get it working.

If so, is the hard disk formatting program available on the floppy only
version of the A1200,

Cheers,

Ahmad
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From: Mark.Bellinger@f117.n207.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Scsi hard drive help
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 17 Nov 92  13:31:00

Hi,
I am trying to get a SCSI Seagate ST4767N 767MB hard drive to work on my
Amiga 2000. I have a 2090 card and 3 megs of memory. On the the 2090
card are 2 ST506 hard drives. These work fine. I put a entry in the
mountlist for DH@ (for the SCSI) and used the parameters for the SCSi
drive. I can prep the drive using the 2090 prep program fine. When I try
to format the disk i get a NOT ENOUGH MEMORY error. HELP!!!!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: A1200 and LD vs HD drives
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 23:12:21 GMT

Quoth joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan):
]> >
]> >Gee, I can think of several tacks to take with such a customer:
]> 
]> You mean ATtacks!
]> 
]> >So on and so forth...
]> 
]> We can tell you've never tried to SELL for a living.  If you displayed that
]> attitude towards me as a customer, I'd walk out and never buy anything from
]> you.  

As others have assumed, you have also assumed incorrectly.  I spent QUITE some
time selling the things.

Let me put this as simple as possible:

SELL the computer!  Defensive stances are losers from the get-go.  If you
cannot address the advantages of owning a 1200 or 4000 or what-have-you to
the customer, you are doing that customer a dis-service by making excuses
and implying things that C= may or may not make good on.

It's like this:  If you want a high-performance machine with killer graphics
and one of the niftiest operating systems to be found in any personal computer,
have I got a deal for you.  If you get stuck on the size of the floppy drive,
you are going to be more happy with a clone.

C= DOES make clones, ya know.  If your customer isn't looking for what
the Amiga has to offer, she'll be more than happy with a clone, more than
likely.

]> That's the stuck-up attitude CBM dealers can do without.  If there's a
]> problem with the computer, it's always best to admit it and try to fix it,
]> not tell the customer to "buzz off" and "go get a life."

Only problem is, 90% of the dealers that can't get over the 880K drive
hurdle are more than likely to apply a liberal coating of snake oil than
actually be honest about the whole thing.

To me, that floppy is totally irrelevant.  To others, it's thier downfall.

Amigii have had 880K drives for QUITE a long time, and there have been 1.44M
drives for beemers for QUITE a long time.  So it's just now we have to make
excuses?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie)
Subject: Re: IBM Develops PC Prod
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:16:32 GMT

Aric.Caley@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:

>>   By comparison, Commodore's response time can almost be measured in
>> decades.
>> Commodore responded to Apple's announcement of the Mac II by shipping a
>> system
>> with almost exactly the same capbilities five years later.  And Commodore

>Apple  responded  to  Commodore's  release  of  the Amiga 1000 (with colour
>graphics  and  a  multitasking  OS) with their first colour machine 2 years
>later.

>Apple  *has  yet*  to  respond to Commodore's release of a true pre-emptive
>multitasking  OS  and  built  in hardware graphics accelerators (going on 7
>years  now),  or  the Amiga's price-performance ratio (though the cheap ass
>Performas are getting closer)

Just like IBM, too...slow!!

>> responded to the standardization of high-density floppy drives in the
>> computer
>> industry by finally adopting them on Amiga systems over four years after
>> IBM,
>> Apple, and every other company in the industry made HD floppies standard on

>Never mind that, for the years before that, the Amiga had 880K drives when
>everybody else had 800K (Mac) and 720K (IBM, Atari ST).

Never mind that...Commodore releases theirs, and it's 1.76 Meg, not 1.44!!
IBM/MegaSlow-DOS, and Apple/Mac fucked up again!!

>> notebook Amigas to penetrate the exploding notebook PC market.  Commodore
>> can
>> probably be expected to ship these products on the fourth or fifth
>> anniversary
>> of the availability of these products by other companies.

>You  want  quick  development  times?  How about CDTV?  The CD-I people had
>been  yakking  about  CD-I for some years before it came out, and Commodore
>(in  a  rare  fit  of  creativity)  threw together the CDTV and released it
>*before*  CD-I  (regardless  of how Philips *lies* about "another first" in
>the  CD-I  commercials).   Apple *still* has not developed a self contained
>multimedia CD-ROM presentation device like CDTV.

Actually, Phillips did most of the development on the CD-TV!
-Doc

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From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Amiga mouse port pinouts!!
Summary: here you go
Keywords: mouse port pinout
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:09:09 GMT
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <dac.05t5@dacami.cmhnet.org> dac@dacami.cmhnet.org (David Culberson) writes:
>
>  Doesn't anyone have the pinouts of the Amiga mouse port?  I'm feeling cut
>off; I posted, asking about them a whille back, and nobody told them to me.
[...]
>            David
>
>(- dac@dacami.cmhnet.org  -  cis.ohio-state.edu!n8emr!jcnpc!dacami!dac -)
>(- David Culberson - Site available for BMS transactions! - DUUCP 1.16 -)

Pin #   digital joystick   mouse/trackball

1       forward            V-pulse
2       back               H-pulse
3       left               VQ-pulse
4       right              HQ-pulse
5       --                 middle button (optional)
6       button1            left button
7       --                 +5V
8       GND                GND
9       button2            right button

This is from the Hardware Reference Manual.  Some other types of controllers
(proportional controller pair, proportional joystick, light pen) are also
listed there.

Hope this helps.

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From: h8eg083@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (Darren Gower)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A500 DMA problem -> expansion port. HELP!
Summary: My GVP series 2 is refusing to boot!
Keywords: Hard drive, DMA, booting.
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:47:59 GMT
Organization: Comp. Centre, Swinburne University of Tech., Melbourne, Australia

I just purcahsed a GVP A530 combo pack. On connection, the unit attempts
to boot (it tries for about 30 secs) and then gives up. I had a similar
situation with the GVP Series II controller (a friend leant me), and this
unit uses the same board. It appears to actually kick in ok - the device
recognises the drive (it starts whirring) and it attempts to boot (the
drive flashes during the 30secs) but all the utils report no
drive being connected at all.

Any suggestion where in the 500 to look? Which chip(s) may be
responsible? I took out AGNUS and DENISE and replaced them with old
versions I had lying around, but no go. 

(Oh - it worked fine in the store).

Config: A500, 4meg 32 bit ram (on the A530) 1meg chip, Kick 2.04.

Help, please!

regards,
Darren.
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From: barham@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 1200 Doubts...
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:47:08 GMT
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

borzieri@cavour.ICO.olivetti.com (Ivan Borzieri) writes:
> I'm planning to sell all my existing hw to get a brand new Amiga 1200, but I
> have some doubts :) :
>                        - Is it true that if I get a MultiSync Monitor
>                        (scanning down to 15 Khz) I can display ALL the
>                        modes the a1200 is capable of ?

If the multisync scans at all the rates the A1200 outputs at, then
certainly it can display all modes it is capable of.  It would have
to scan down to 15 for sure, but what would it have to scan up to?
This has been mentioned here but I can't remember off hand.

>                        In which modes I STILL get flickering ?

Any resolutions which flicker on the A3000 with a flicker fixer will
flicker on the A1200 with mode promotion.  IE super hires, 800x600.

>                        - A friend of mine told me IDE HD used in
>                        A1200 are somewhat different from the ones
>                        used in PCs.  Is that true ?

Your friend speaks through his pants.
>                                                        Thanks,
>                                                        Ivan

Your welcome.

Tim.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: lee@rose.brandeis.edu (charles lee)
Subject: A1000 Low-Pass Hack.... Help!
Keywords: A1000
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:53:54 GMT

Would any person out there who has hacked the low-pass filter on their
A1000 post on how they did it? I'd like to kill that filter as it makes
the ol' A1000 rather muffled...

Thanks for any replies....

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From: dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re:  Floppy size in 1200?
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:55:49 EST
Organization: Dejital Software

In article <13414@ecs.soton.ac.uk> efp90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Pritchard EF) writes:
>>>Arrrgh.  This is my *only* gripe about the A1200.  So now all these AGA games
>>>are going to have to fit on an 880K floppy?  And so much for CrossDos 
>>>actually being *useful*. :(
>
>(CBM may even leapfrog forward to a 3.52Mb disk (like IBMs 2.88), but
>I doubt it! (although I hope to be corrected))

Here's hint, people:

If you want a HD floppy, get an Insite Floptical.  All you need is
a SCSI port.  I can do 720K, 1.44M, and leapfrog the 3.52M with a killer
21M!!!

And you can have it NOW!!!

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 AMIGA: Advanced Multimedia with Interactive Graphics and Audio
From: leekil@bbn.com (Lee Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape Drive Questions (was: Re: 3M MCD-40 Tape Drives & HDBackup)
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:04:56 GMT
Reply-To: leekil@BBN.COM (Lee Kilpatrick)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <BxvABA.KIy@fc.hp.com> koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren) writes:
>Lee Kilpatrick (leekil@bbn.com) wrote:
>
>> Also, someone talked about using gnutar on the Amiga for tape drives.
>> I am using the tar version mentioned in the BTNtape documents, but one
>> thing I want to be able to do is transfer data using tapes & tar from
>> a Unix system.  When I have done this in the past using disks and this
>> version of tar, it doesn't properly read the dates from the
>> Unix-created archive.  I was hoping gnutar would fix this.
>
>I'm not using GNU tar, just another small tar port on the Amiga (it is
>about 35Kb, and I don't know who did the port).  It works flawlessly,
>and I've been able to write data on the Amiga and extract it on Unix,
>and vice versa.
>

Well, I have the smaller version of tar and I cannot transfer from
Unix->Amiga.  The reverse path works fine, but when I try to read the
Unix (Sun 3/50) tapes on the Amiga, it doesn't even seem to recognize
that there is any data on the tape.  Tapemon gives me a "blank check"
error.  It seems to me that there is a lower-level (lower than tar)
problem, but I don't know if there is anything I can change to fix it.
The tape drive I am using on my Amiga is an old Archive drive with a
SCSI translator board.  The Sun drive is an "Emulex MT-02 QIC-24 tape
drive", according to the "mt -f /dev/rst0 status" command.  Any
suggestions?

I now have BTNtape2.1 instead of 2.0, and it doesn't allow me to read
the Unix tapes, either.


	Lee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: sjurk@dhhalden.no (SJUR KRISTIANSEN)
Subject: AGA chipset for the CDTV?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:30:48 GMT

Title says it all really. Any plans for this? Commodore...?
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