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From: farrellj@aqua.pc.ocunix.on.ca (Farrel McGovern)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: New Diamanda
Date: 13 Apr 92 06:46:28 GMT
Organization: The Aquarium, Ottawa, Ontario
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis) writes:


> 
> In article <65124@apple.Apple.COM> saurav@tgevax.life.uiuc.edu (Saurav Misra)
> >Any feedback on the new Diamanda Galas? The CD pic makes her look downright,
> >uh...marketable. I hope no unfortunate Christian Muzak listeners misinterpre
> >the song titles in the back and buy the disc. "Where were you when my lord
> >was crucified!" - indeed.
> 
> 
> Since my very local music store seems unable to carry Tori Amos for one reaso
> or another, I decided  to buy the new Diamanda Galas instead. I found the fac
> that she covered Gloomy Sunday (the Billie Holiday song that Sarah McLachlan
> also covers in her live shows) a good sign. Not having heard anything from he
> before all I can say is SCARY STUFF. Her voice is all over the place. Her pia
> playing is very interesting. I want to say she is the female Nick Cave, but
> it doesn't sound right... When she played in Athens, Greece last summer, she
> requested ~10-20 kgs of animal blood for her shows. I now understand why.


 
  Hi!
 
  I have seen Sarah a few times now, and she never sang the same cover in 
another show. I am pretty sure that if you heard her cover a song, she would 
not sing it again in concert...I saw two shows, a couple of months apart, 
and she didn't cover the same tunes in the two show...first time was the 
famous "Georgia", and the second time was a tune by Talk Talk.
 
ttyl
Blessed Be,
     Farrell
From: GTP10@UK.AC.CAMBRIDGE.PHOENIX
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Tori Amos Live
Date: 6 Apr 92 09:14:15 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Tori played a gig here in Cambridge last night and it was absolutely
stunning. Just her and a piano - no backing band. She played just about
everything off Little Earthquakes, the 3 covers off the limited edition
Winter CD single and a couple of other non-album tracks. The total running
time was about 90 minutes, including 5 encores. She really lived every
song - the power and emotion were incredible. Do not pass up the opportunity
to see her.


Meanwhile the hype machine rumbles on. Friday's International Herald
Tribune devoted about a third of the back page to her. The article was
entitled something along the lines of "Tori Returns Home, A Bimbo No More".
It was by a Washington Post writer, and, yes, it did mention KaTe.


Geoff Parks
From: VNOZICK@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (MasterMind)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: misc. stuff
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:51:44 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


It's good to see that gaffa hasn't lost its spirit, coming back from my annual
4 month hiatus (don't ask me why--I guess I just go through periods of hating
the computer center here.)  Although it was interesting to see that of the
first 10 messages, about 75% of them mentioned Happy.  Seems that all of the
controversy over her existence in r.m.g. has been forgotten, or more likely,
has simply grown out of control.  :-)


It's great to hear from IED, even if it was only for a frantic message and not
for good.  I know that I miss his presence greatly.


Kate, if you are reading this message, I feel for you in your loss.  Please,
take as much time as you need to heal yourself...and remember that there is no
"right way" to handle such a thing, only the way that helps.


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    Valerie Nozick             "Is there so much hate for the ones we love?
vnozick@eagle.wesleyan.edu      Tell me we both matter, don't we?"--Kate Bush 
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From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi the Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: another kate sample
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:52:53 GMT
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wow, i didn't listen closely enough to that suns of arqa track ("kalavati
(bleep and booster mix)") first time through - not only does it end with a
wail from "Reaching Out" but there is a snatch of bulgarian vox from
"Rocket's Tail" a few minutes prior to that.


clearly bleep & booster (whoever they are) like the sensual world.


anybody got a copy of the ohi ho bang bang single they'd be willing to dupe
for me?
From: kms@world.std.com (Kelly M Stanonik)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: More Tori & Kate
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:50:51 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
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Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Liz%Eng%Banyan@hippo.banyan.com writes:


>uneven.  Great cover art, though. ;-))


I assume you're talking about the fungus and not wood-block-tori-amos
lettering.  For myself, if you're going to be phallic you should be a
little less obvious about it.  In other words, too blatent, one thumb
down.
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From: rhill@netlink.cts.com (Ron Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: STuff
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:09:01 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




        Fiona asks about a "Lionheart" tour poster with a "Babooshka" video 
picture on it.  Of course, "Babooshka" wasn't out at the time of the tour.  
The tour was _The_Tour_Of_Life_.  The tour program had "Lionheart" type 
pictures in it, and songs were performed from _Lionheart_ but it wasn't 
called a "Lionheart" tour, so the poster must be an un-official, later day 
poster. 
        As far as _The_Ninth_Hound_ poster, it's very common, though I don't 
know why it's called that.  Probably just to be different!  :-) 


        Michael Graham asks how hard it is to find _A_Book_of_Dreams_.  It 
was reprinted a few years back with Kate on the cover, and I was able to 
order it at my local book store.  I don't know what the "Canadian situation" 
is, but you can always buy it mail order, I think both C-Side and 
_Intergalactic_Garage_ have it, but am not certain. 


        Could some Sarah M. and Tori Amos fan write up a brief (one 
paragraph) description of them to add to the monthly post.  I don't really 
follow the discussion so I wouldn't know what to put. 


        Andrew - it is unwise to upset "Wizard's Assistant" [sic - not a 
person].  It is even more unwise to upset "Lionheart".  :-)


Ron








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From: rhill@netlink.cts.com (Ron Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: carnivals, fanzines, etc
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:52:53 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA
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        Andy asked about "Carnival songs".  To me the early demo song 
_Nevertheless,_You'll_Do_ always sounded carnival-like.  I think the 
carnival influence is most important when it comes to the _tour_, especially 
on songs like _Strange_Phenomena_ and the German documentary 
_Room_For_The_Life_.   The thing about _Coffee_Homeground_ is that it's one 
of only three songs that were written between the first album and the 
second, so maybe the "carnival" atmosphere of it was partially inspired by 
the carnival like existance that Kate was living at the time.


        Phred asked about the secret message in _Leave_It_Open_.  The funny 
thing about it is that from the very first time I heard the song, it always 
was very clear to me that she said "We let the weirdness in."  As a matter 
of fact, that was my favorite line from the whole album for years, kinda 
jumps out at you.  It wasn't until years later that I realized that it was 
supposed to be "secret". 




        Can someone with the latest Never Forever tell me what the current 
address and subscription price (USA 1 and 2 years is), and, most 
importantly, if they mention the interview book and if so how much (USA).  
THanks.




        Ken - I got my Homeground on Friday or was it Thursday.  Did you 
something bad to them? 




        Thanks to Elana for the funny (if questionable :-) bad pun joke. 




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From: VNOZICK@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (MasterMind)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Kate's Carnival Music
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:56:35 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


> From: ST701790@brownvm.brown.edu (Zimri Smith)


> My impression of the "carnival music" theme in
> Coffee Homeground,
> There Goes a Tenner,
> etc.
> 
> 
> is that it is more Kurt Weill-like than carnival like.
> I'd say the same for Tori's "Leather," by the way.


hmmm...i'm listening to 'leather' right now and i'm not sure if i'd say that. 
it sounds more like a player piano than a carnival.  is that splitting hairs? 


actually, i always thought of songs such as coffee homeground, there goes a
tenner, etc. as the 'humour' songs.  songs where kate or whoever just has
*fun*, not necessarily dancing around type of fun (such as in 'the big sky' :-) 
), but a let's-write-something-humourous (and succeed) type of song.  the
picture of the poison in the coffee is hilarious.  and the way kate sings it is
just merely fun -- you can tell she's enjoying singing coffee-ee-ee-ee... 
there goes a tenner is interesting to me, because i always imagined it as a
laurel and hardy type of comedic film.  i tried directing this as a video in my
directing class last semester with keystone cops, and it works! (well, maybe
not in *my* video, since i didn't have the skill to do it justice, and my lead
didn't show up for the performance, so i had to play the role at the last
minute).  but it still seems like the bumbling gangsters/keystone cops type of
thing.  to show you what i mean, imagine the cops from pirates of penzance. 
i wouldn't necessarily classify 'leather' in this group...a better example of
this to me is 'happy phantom'.  'judy garland taking buddha by the hand', 'they
say confucius does his crossword with a pen' are just such absurd lines that
they're fantastic!  or imagine chasing the nuns out in the yard.  these are the
songs that i would kill to have written.  another example comes from kirsty
maccoll -- 'saving up your bottle tops for your free piece of mind' (lyrics are
not exact...i only have little earthquakes with me today).  what genius!!!  


does any of that make sense?  so i guess it has more to do with the lyrics for
me than the music.  but that's why i love kate, tori, etc....they're such
wonderful lyricists as well as musicians.  (btw -- my favorite broadway
composers are gilbert & sullivan and cole porter.  notice a trend?)
what's best is when they combine humorous lyrics with humourous music. 
heaven, indeed.


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*  **************************************************************************  *
*  *      Valerie Nozick              "What do the simple folk do?"         *  *
*  * vnozick@eagle.wesleyan.edu                         --from "Camelot"    *  *
*  *         Box 5024                 "They say Confucius does his          *  *
*  *     Wesleyan Station              crossword with a pen."               *  *
 * *   Middletown, CT 06459                             --Tori Amos         * *
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From: tessi!john@nosun.West.Sun.COM (John Zimmer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Homeground and KaTe raTings
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:54:02 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


Meredith asks:


>in this dinky town have any or know where to get it... US Love-Hounds,
how
>do you get sterling when renewing your Homeground subscriptions?


In the past I've either used foreign bank drafts drawn on a London bank
(expensive as hell), or more recently just sent American currency
($12.00 was good for a two issue renewal).  HG has instructions in the
back for calculating the amount assuming you can find the exchange
rate, but it's been fairly stable lately.




_____________________________________________________________
John Zimmer                         sun.com!nosun!tessi!john


	Irgendwo in der Tiefe gibt es ein Licht!
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From: lionhart@netlink.cts.com (Jackie Zucconi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Babooshka and Leave It Open
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:04:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: apple.65468
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


OK, first I never had Russian but I knew what babooshla meant, perhaps it 
has to do with me hanging out with a lot of Russian Jews when I was growing 
up. I also noticed (thanks to Russian Jewish friends) that babooshka can 
also be the name for a little hat. Incidently this hat is picture on the 
sleeve of the Russian blue flexi disk for Kate's Babooshka.
Second, upon hearing Leave It Open I noticed that she is saying "We let the 
weirdness in" and it seems (to me) to alternate with "Leave your life open" 
but added into this weird manner that Kate recorded these lines there does 
seem (again to me) that she definitely put something in there backwards for 
a brief moment. I can hear this better when using earphones but not at all 
if played over speakers coverign the whole room. I'll go listen to it again 
to note the exact starting and ending time of this "backward message" I'm 
hearing, it is a shorter duration than the "we let the weirdness in" segment 
of the song.
                                --- Lionheart


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From: rtimko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Roger M Timko)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Tori in Rolling Stone-Apr. 30
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:43:35 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM






Hi all. Thought I'd be the first to copy the Tori Amos clip in the "New
Faces" section of Apr 30 ROLLING STONE. And wow, not a mention of Kate in
the whole article...I think this is a first! Also as a rather large close-up
shot of a very Kate-ish Tori (must be those lips...).


              TORI AMOS - ETHEREAL EARTHQUAKES 
                    by Elysa Gardner


	"You write different stuff when you're thirteen than you do when 
you're twenty-eight", says the singer-songwriter Tori Amos, who is the 
latter. "But I'll tell you, I was more on at thirteen than I sometimes was
at twenty-one!" Amos has been playing the piano virtually all her life and
writing songs for almost as long, but as a young adult she began to question
her artistic aspirations. "I think I really got afraid of it", she says, 
"afraid of playing, afraid of showing my guts. I just kind of went somewhere
else for a while."
	She didn't stay away for long, though. While her 1988 album debut,
a bid for hard-rock following called "Y Kant Tori Read", was a critical and
commercial flop, Amos emerged this year with "Little Earthquakes", a collection
of introspective piano-laced ballads that are better suited to her ethereal
voice. They're also truer to her musical origins - influenced by a father who
is a Methodist preacher and a mother who harbors a fondness for show tunes
and other pop standards.
	The subject matter on "Little Earthquakes" ranges from the general
romantic frustration suggested on "Crucify" to the shockingly specific
sexual violence recounted on "Me and a Gun". "Even if I'm just observing
something", Amos explains, "I'm involved in it, because I'm seeing it from
my own perspective." 
	Having already won over critics and fans in England, Amos will face
American audiences in April. While she looks forward to performing live and
describes her performance style as "confrontational", Amos admits she's not
immune to stage fright. "You can become so small, so intimidated", Amos says.
"But then you crawl through the wall you've created for yourself, and you come
out on the other side as this really big giant. And you go, 'God, they don't
make any decent clothes in this size!' "


                        -------------------






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From: @hermes.intel.com:AGOUGH@AZ.intel.com (Andy Gough, x4-2906, pager 420-2284, CH2-59)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Theodore
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:53:45 GMT
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Hey,
    Last night I found a large stack of the "Theodore" compact discs at my
local Tower Records.
    The disc lists this track by KaTe:


	"Be Kind To My Mistakes" (Non-Album Cut)


My question to all of you is, how does this differ from the track on the
"rarities" disc in the box set?   "Theodore" was discussed a lot in 
Love-Hounds a while back, so I'm sure someone knows.


Thanks,
Andy
From: s.telford@ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Love-Hounds@wiretap.Spies.COM
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:32:55 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, UK.
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM




In article <64949@apple.Apple.COM> rhill@netlink.cts.com (Ron Hill) writes:


>        Scott - Is Carriad Kate any good?  Is the article in Record 
>collector any good? 


Well, I've only got the last three issues of Never Forever (sic - not
Never for Ever) but...


It's not really up to Homeground standards of production, and of course,
Jon & Nev aren't quite so well-connected as the Homegrinders.  The
artwork doesn't compare to Paulina's or Debbi's in Homeground either.
However they do print old magazime articles, newspaper clippings etc.
Pretty much your average fanzine, really.


The RC article isn't particularly long, but did contain a few fact I
hadn't read before (none of which I can remember right now 8^). It's
pretty acurate as far as I can tell.


>        A friend of mine just brought over six episodes of one of Kate's 
>favorite shows, _Faulty_Towers_.  Does anyone know anything about this, when 
>was it on, how many shows were there, why were there so few, etc, etc. 


I think this was first shown in the mid-70s ('76? '77? - before my time,
really 8^). Can't remember how many episodes were made - more than one
series I think.




PS. I was at Tori's Edinburgh gig last night. Boy, she can *sing*!
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From: VNOZICK@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (MasterMind)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Trouble-making lyric
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:56:23 GMT
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


I've had a few people ask me which lyric it was of KaTe's that got me into a
jam with a professor here, so with much ado and anticipation, here it is:


(taken from memory so be kind to...ah, you get the idea)
Then I take the kiss of seedcake back from his mouth,
going deep south, going down.....mmmh yes.


Hmm...is that the exact lyric?  Gosh, time to listen to TSW again!


with love and violets,


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Valerie Nozick             "Is there so much hate for the ones we love?
vnozick@eagle.wesleyan.edu      Tell me we both matter, don't we?"--Kate Bush 
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From: buckmr@rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Diamanda Discography
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:12:24 GMT
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@cis.ohio-state.edu
Originator: wisner@wiretap.Spies.COM


VENTURE@brownvm.brown.edu (Annie Leonard) writes:




>Hello Hounds,




>Does anyone have a handy updated Diamanda Galas discography they
>would be willing to send my way?  I'm interested in editorial
>opinions about how to go about introducing oneself to Diamanda and
>her music, as well as the basic discography.


Well, THE PLAGUE MASS is *brilliant*. I've also heard ``You Must Be Certain Of 
The Devil'' but it isn't as good as The Plague Mass [which was recorded *live*]


How is her new album "The Singer"? The _Times_ and the _Voice_ seemed to like it.




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From: awphili@cs.vu.nl (Albert Philipsen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: Re: Happy Rhodes
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:42:39 GMT
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In article <64967@apple.Apple.COM> gatech!chinet.chi.il.us!katefans@EDDIE.MIT.EDU (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago) writes:


>Hi, I was waiting to see if someone from Europe would answer this with
>how much they paid for postage. Perttu from Finland bought Warpaint
>first, but I don't know how much he paid and he's on vacation right
>now. [...]


Well, the postage for the Warpaint CD, when I bought it back in April
last year was $3.67.  That is for airmail to The Netherlands.


>Order numbers aren't really necessary, just indicate which album(s) you
>want. Rhodes Vol. 1, Rhodes Vol 2, Rearmament, Ecto or Warpaint. You 
>might get Warpaint first, then if you like it, get the others on CD in
>May. If you do become a budding Happy fanatic, you'll definitly want the


I will definitly get the 1st4 on CD, when they will be released in May,
even though I already have them on cassette.  They are worth every penny!


>bonus tracks that will be on the 1st4 CDs. A couple of them are already
>in circulation and we know how good they are. [...]


They are very good indeed.  One of the bonus tracks, called When The
Rain Came Down, is high on my list of favourite Happy songs.


>Vickie


Albert Philipsen
--
we danced in graveyards
with vampires till dawn (Tori Amos)