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From: bonness@cae.wisc.edu (Matthew Bonness)
Subject: Jeffrey Dahmer's Favorite Toonz
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:07:09 CDT

I was just reading _The Milwaukee Murders_ the other day,
found an interesting tidbit I thought I'd throw out to you
folks. 

In the book, it says that Dahmer, in the early 80s when he
was in the U.S. Army, listened to Black Sabbath a lot, and
that he had an Iron Maiden poster in his room, which he would
spend hours staring at in a drunken stupor.

Do y'all really know what you're getting into, listening to this
kind of music? Hmmmm?

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: mfc1493@venus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Subject: Re: Jeffrey Dahmer's Favorite Toonz
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 06:29:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.120709.28349@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, bonness@cae.wisc.edu (Matthew Bonness) writes...
>I was just reading _The Milwaukee Murders_ the other day,
>found an interesting tidbit I thought I'd throw out to you
>folks. 
> 
>In the book, it says that Dahmer, in the early 80s when he
>was in the U.S. Army, listened to Black Sabbath a lot, and
>that he had an Iron Maiden poster in his room, which he would
>spend hours staring at in a drunken stupor.
> 
>Do y'all really know what you're getting into, listening to this
>kind of music? Hmmmm?
> 
C'mon. Give me a break.

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From: mfc1493@zeus.tamu.edu (Ratboy)
Subject: Re: Megadeth and Metallica
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:27:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.030354.27027@wam.umd.edu>, gisie@wam.umd.edu (Dr. Death) writes...
>Im not looking to start a flame war here but I have a few observations
>that I want to see if the rest of the metal community agrees with:
> 
>Has Metallica's bass area seriously SUCKED since the death of Cliff?
>I think Jason Newstead either sucks eggs or they are mixing there
>albums wrong. Also, I think after reviewing all of the Metallica
>albums with Jason and all of the Megadeth albums with Dave Ellefson,
>I have to say that Dave is a SUPERIOR bass player than Jason. Of course,
>Cliff B was the best (insert brief silence)
> 
>Anyone agree/disagree/offer any insight?
> 
>Thanks,
>Doc

Hmmm. I haven't noticed anything wrong with Jason's playing on the albums,
but in concert (AJFA...c.1989) he royally screwed the beginning of For Whom
The Bell Tolls {cringe}. Elifson is good too, but I hesitate comparing two
musicians, even in the same genre. It inevitably leads to a flame who, everyone
taking sides, and gets nowhere. Plus, it never takes into account the fact
that these guys have played many years and are making good money doing what
they love to do. I admire them for that.

Michael
From: sumanth@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Black Sabbath in concert
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:38:36 GMT
Reply-To: sumanth
Organization: University of Florida  (ufl.edu)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4


Could someone out there let me know on what to expect from Sabbath
in this tour. Are they doing any of the old Rainbow & Dio tunes
and are they concentrating more on the old Sabbath stuff like
H'n'Hell??  Probably a set list would be great.  Thanks

                    -- Dan. 
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From: sedenome@cayley.waterloo.edu (Banger)
Subject: Re: Saxon
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 18:56:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.010027.27271@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>What do you people say about Saxon? I find them extremelly consistent in sound
I've heard they are like Maiden, but that's about it.  I've wanted to buy an
album of theirs to see for myself...any suggestions?

Also: for all the Canucks out there or anyone else who gets MuchMusic...Bruce
Dickinson is hosting the Power 30 on Monday...should be a classic. 
>
UP THE IRONS!
-Banger.
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From: syoung@Cadence.COM (Scott Young)
Subject: I NEED SLAYER TICKET'S
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:40:17 GMT

I NEED SLAYER TICKET'S , I AM THE LOMBARDO WORSHIPER

HELP ME GUY'S , IF YOU KNOW ANYONE WITH EXTRA'S OR IF THEY ARE NOT 
GOING PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET ME KNOW . I DID NOT HEAR A WORD ABOUT
THIS SHOW , AND WILL KILL MYSELF IF I MISS THEM AT ONE STEP.


HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME HELP ME

syoung@cadence.com                                San Jose , CA
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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Maiden lyrics, cont.
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:20:29 GMT

CHARLOTTE THE HARLOT
Giving a swish with your arse in the air
Don't you know what they're saying?
Charlotte you're so refined when you take all the love
That they're giving
Sticking with every man that you find
Don't you know what they're after?
Charlotte you've got your legs in the air
Don't you hear all the laughter?

Charlotte the Harlot show me your leg
Charlotte the Harlot take me to bed
Charlotte the Harlot let me see blood
Charlotte the Harlot let me see love

Taking so many men to your room
Don't you feel no remorse
You charge them a "fiver"
It's only for starters
And ten for the main course
And you've got no feelings
They died long ago Don't you care who you let in
And don't you know you're breaking the law
With the service you're giving

There was a time when you left me standing there
Picking up pieces of love from the floor
Well Charlotte you left me alone in there
To make your ends as a bloody whore
Well Charlotte you told me you love me true
Picking up pieces of love yesterday
Well Charlotte, your drawers are off color too
'Cause you're making love all day

IRON MAIDEN
Won't you come into my room
I wanna show you all my wares
I just want to see your blood
I just want to stand and stare
See the blood begin to flow
As it falls upon the floor
Iron Maiden can't be fought
Iron Maiden can't be sought

Oh well, wherever, wherever you are
Iron Maiden's gonna get you no matter how far
See the blood flow, watching it shed
Up above my head, Iron Maiden wants you for dead

SANCTUARY
Out of the winter came a war horse of steel
I've never killed a woman before, but I know how it feels
I know you'd have gone insane if you saw what I saw
So now I've got to look for sanctuary from the law

I met up with a 'slinger last night to keep me alive
He spends all his money on gambling and guns to survive

So give me sanctuary from the law and I'll be alright
Just give me sanctuary from the law and love me tonight
Tonight

I can laugh at the wind, I can howl at the rain
Down in the Canyon or out in the plain
I know you'd have gone insane if you saw what I saw
So now I've got to look for sanctuary from the law
Jeepers, I'm out of time again. OK, that's it for the first Iron Maiden album plus "Sanctuary" (I've got the Japan print. "Sanctuary" wasn't on the album, but
I have the lyrics so you all get a bonus.) More to come.

philip


"Inside the power cage, I can feel the music call my rage
It's paranoid, first degree. It's telling me that I'm not free.
I've got heavy metal music in my blood and I like to get it to you if I could"
-Holocaust, "Heavy Metal Mania" ||||||||| pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |||||||||
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From: st1j6@rosie.uh.edu (Shipchandler, Lovai)
Subject: Dave Lombardo's leaving of Slayer
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:02:00 GMT

Does anyone know the story behind it?  Something to do with his
wife?
From: masproj8@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Viper)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Metallica
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:38:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <RXwNoB2w165w@hale.cts.com>, hclos@hale.cts.com (Huis Clos) writes...
>I like everything from Metallica that I have heard.  I have gone to two 
>of their shows (Justice, and their latest) and enjoyed them live - 
>although it is obvious that they are getting older (the last show they 
>took more breaks, drank more beer, and made many more flubs.  I think 
>Ride the Lightning is their most important album.  It marked a definite 
>turning point for them.  After listening, you can see how they became 
>more intricate since Kill 'em All (notice Fade to Black as the best 
>example).  They continued this in Master of Puppets, faltered a bit on 
>Justice (although it does seem a legitimate experiment), and washed out 
>completely on their latest, self titled effort (sound a bit commercial to 
>me.

I always thought there was a flaw in this argument for RTL as the "best"
Metallica album--MoP was a step up in the intricacy department, and the faster
songs definitely slammed with more authority (Battery; Disposable Heroes;
Damage, Inc.).  Also, nothing on RTL *CRUNCHED* as much as Leper Messiah
(forgive me for not putting quotes around any of these song titles:).

For my money, the best is ...AJFA.  I have always admired the talent for
arranging music displayed by Hetfield & Co., and this was, in that sense, the
best.  RTL is still fuckin' great, though...too bad we'll never hear Escape
live...

>Then Again...my opinion only.
> 
>HALE TELECOMMUNICATIONS - Public Access Node, San Diego CA 619/660-6734 HST
>hclos@hale.cts.com (Huis Clos)   29-Jul-92 at 12:26a

					---The Vertigod Himself
From: bobn@hawkwind.central.Sun.COM (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Solitude Aeturnus ?
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:38:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Bob.Netherton@dallas.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: hawkwind.central.sun.com

Can someone fill me in on these guys, like (1) what/who are they like,
(2) what album/CD to get first, (3) what to stay away from ?

As always, thanks in advance,
Bob

-- 
Bob Netherton                        | You see the signs, they're always there
Sun Microsystems                     | But you know you never care
Dallas, Tx                           | You are always looking for another reason
bob.netherton@central.Sun.COM        | ==== Hawkwind, Paradox
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From: sedenome@cayley.waterloo.edu (Banger)
Subject: Countdown to a review...
Keywords: Mustaine, Megadeth, extinction, destruction
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:33:53 GMT

Could someone out there give a review of Countdown to Extinction? (new MegadetH)
Thx.

UP THE IRONS!
-Banger.
From: schaupp@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Andreas Schaupp, IPVR-ISE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: R.Rhoads
Keywords: In article 1@research.ptt.nl, mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926) writes:
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:12:25 GMT
Reply-To: schaupp@informatik.uni-stuttgart.de
Organization: Stuttgart University, IPVR/ISE

>simple (until you try playing it). In my opinion that's what 
>makes a great song.

I also think that 'Dee' is one of the best songs Ozzy and Randy did play together. For me Randy Rhoads is one of the greatest guitar players the world have ever seen.

If you know 'Dee' then i suppsose you also know the fantastic live album from Ozzy and Randy called 'Tribute'. It's one of the best live albums in the metal sector and the only one from Ozzy on which another musican is titled on the front side. That's not only because Randy was the greatest musican ever played in Ozzys band, but also he was the best friend Ozzy ever have had. I often heard the album and every time i heard it i realize what a great loss his death was for the metal scene.

Andi
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Maiden England
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:22:44 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

On the back of the Maiden England video tape cover, it says "soundtrack 
produced by Martin Birch." Is there a soundtrack like LIVE AFTER DEATH (which
wan't even recorded from the same show as the video) or are they talking
about the "Clairvoyant" and "Infinite Dreams" singles?

philip



"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
From: gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Megadeth and Metallica
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:40:40 GMT
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof


>> And Cliff was definitely GOOD if not one
>> of the best metal 4-stringers ever.
>
>certainly NOT one of the best ever. there are many, many players better
>than he: steve harris, lemmy and billy sheehan come t omind off the top
>of my head and i'm sure there are lots of others (tom araya, geezer
>butler etc...etc...)

Tom Araya?  Good bassist?  Bwa ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.

Lemmy?  Ooof.  Interesting bassist, anyway.

Other good metal bassists, IMO:

Troy Gregory (Prong)
Joe DiBiase (Fates Warning)
John Myung (Dream Theater)

Dammit, can't remember the name of the guy that plays on 
Athiest's "Unquestionable Presence"...I know he's played
on a bunch of death bands' albums, and he is damn good.

Bassist in Sadus.

Cliff was good.  He played some cool stuff.



s
From: fatqr@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Metallica concert dates?
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:49:36 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	Does anyone know where the G'n R , Metallica, and Faith No More tour
is going after their Colorado date (Aug. 12th) ? 
If so, please e-mail me the info to KRG2021@zeus.tamu.edu

	Rachelle
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From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: trying to find the name of a musician
Summary: "voodoo violence"
Keywords: violin, yngwie, name, mark, wood
Organization: Squids, Ink.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:52:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.171952.25655@Cadence.COM> syoung@Cadence.COM (Scott Young) writes:
>A while back i was watching a show on what i think was a community t.v.
>station , when they started doing an interview of a musician who made
>his own instrument. It was like an electric violin with a shoulder    
>harrness attached to it ? Anyway from the sound of his music it reminded
>me of an Yngwie/Blackmore/whoeveryourfavoriteguitarist classical metal
>type stuff.
[...]
>please help , I really want to find his full name or an album title.
>

his name is mark wood, and he has n album out called "voodoo violence".

if ya can't find it in a store, you can order it from guitar recordings:

mail box music
p.o. box 341
rye, new york   10580

check it out, man...
-bogusman and judex
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"Let the blood run red;
 	let them all be dead;
		 no one will stop the Metal Avengers"
			-Thor

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From: gisie@wam.umd.edu (Dr. Death)
Subject: Megadeth and Metallica
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:03:54 GMT

Im not looking to start a flame war here but I have a few observations
that I want to see if the rest of the metal community agrees with:

Has Metallica's bass area seriously SUCKED since the death of Cliff?
I think Jason Newstead either sucks eggs or they are mixing there
albums wrong. Also, I think after reviewing all of the Metallica
albums with Jason and all of the Megadeth albums with Dave Ellefson,
I have to say that Dave is a SUPERIOR bass player than Jason. Of course,
Cliff B was the best (insert brief silence)

Anyone agree/disagree/offer any insight?

Thanks,
Doc

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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Manitou lyrics?
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:38:31 GMT

Anyone out there who happens to have Venom's Manitou single (NOT THE PICTURE
DISC. THE NORMAL 7" SINGLE) care to reprint the lyrics on the back cover? I've
tried to figure them out, but when I came across the single at a record store
(it disappeared the next week) I found that I was compleatly off.

By the way, the Countess Bathory lyrics I posted earlier are pretty
accurate. 90% about. 

philip
"Inside the power cage, I can feel the music call my rage
It's paranoid, first degree. It's telling me that I'm not free.
I've got heavy metal music in my blood and I like to get it to you if I could"
-Holocaust, "Heavy Metal Mania" ||||||||| pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |||||||||
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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: what about the fall?
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:01:19 GMT

You know, we've been going on apparently pretty well here (ie no one really 
massively flaming each other except maybe once or twice every few days) and
I was wondering about what would happen in the fall. I don't know how many
of you were out here in the spring, but we had these guys Maple and Suaron
(I'll tell you now because you will most definitely hear from them) flaming
people left and right just because they may happen to like Warrant or Def 
Leppard or Poison or the new Metallica album or whatever, and things got
really bad towards the end with the UK vs. USA flame war that seemed to also
infect rec.humor at the same time. Just wondering if we are going to be able to
stay under control, etc., and maintain the general integrity of this group.

Anyway, anyone with the Praying Mantis "Turn The Tables" singel, doesn't
Bernie Shaw sound a bit like Bruce Dickinson on The Number Of The Beast or
Head On albums?

philip


"Inside the power cage, I can feel the music call my rage
It's paranoid, first degree. It's telling me that I'm not free.
I've got heavy metal music in my blood and I like to get it to you if I could"
-Holocaust, "Heavy Metal Mania" ||||||||| pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |||||||||
From: kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: got 'em
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:27:01 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Jul31.003738.28224@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>Got the Def Leppard tickets w/ Bryan Adams and Richard Marx. Now, say I wanted

What?  Def Leppard with Bryan Adams and Richard Marx?  Is that true???  
I have lost all resepect for Def Leppard even as a hard rock band.

They've gone a long way from NWOBM to mega-top 40 wimps.

>philip
>
>"Washington Boulevard, east-bound. Thirty-three...Can I get a transfer, man?
>Ninety-five cents?! FUCK YOU I'LL SKATE TO THE BEACH, AND I'LL LOOK BETTER
>GETTING THERE!!!" - Faith No More, "Death March"
>e-mail Philip Wang at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu

^^^ I love that part! (FNM)
From: scol@scottsdale.az.stratus.com (Scott Colbath)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Spinal Tap
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:44:14 GMT

In article <cass8806.31@elan.glassboro.edu> cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE  
CASSIDY) writes:
> 
> 
> 	Has anybody seen Spinal Tap on their current American Tour? I saw 
> them two weeks ago in Philidelphia (and not at Fidelity Hall either). They 
> were quite funny and played for three hours, encompassing all of their 
> material with the exception of "Cups & Cakes." They played a little 
> accoustic psychadellic (sp) thing with three or four tunes, including some 
> obscure irish folk ballad.
> 	Highlights included Nigel's absolutely astounding guitar solo (in 
> part throwing horseshoes at his guitar), Big Bottom, special effects (flying 
> just like bon jovi on wires & cables), and a rap version of Sex Farm.
> 	They were filled with amusing comments, intersperced throughout the 
> show and I wonder how many of these were ad lib--how much of their show was 
> canned....
> 
> 
> kc


I saw them a LONG time ago after the release of their movie. They did only a  
few gigs and one of them was at the Channel in Boston which is where I caught  
the show. It was a lot like you said. Humor, poking fun at other bands and the  
like. Good show, I'd like to see them Break Like the Wind :) pppffffftt


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From: Kevin.J.Feury@dartmouth.edu (Kevin J. Feury)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Dave Lombardo's leaving of Slayer
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:04:37 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <28JUL199217025832@rosie.uh.edu>
st1j6@rosie.uh.edu (Shipchandler, Lovai) writes:

> Does anyone know the story behind it?  Something to do with his
> wife?

according to a rep at def american, lombardo has not left the band. he
is on temporary vacation to deal with his wife's pregnancy and will not
tour with them this summer. the temp replacement is supposed to be the
old drummer from forbidden whose name eludes me at this point.

-kev.

slatanist@mac.dartmouth.edu

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