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From: narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana)
Subject: Re: AIDS drug by indian firm
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:02:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.191133.3408@doug.cae.wisc.edu> balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman) writes:
>" There is a fundamental problem in Srinivas Sundar's argument. It says
>if I design a product P, then I can patent it even if the process
>used to design P is inefficent. When you allow such a thing to happen
>drug companies can always design expensive processes to bleed the client,
>and be happy that their products are protected from competetion.   "
>
>  IMHO, one should realize that most of the monies dumped into pharmaceutical
>  research goes into extensive testing and certification procedures.  This
>  is after more money is pumped in to discover a drug in the first place.
>  Indian companies which have been sitting in the sidelines waiting for
>  a B-M-S or a Merck to come up with a viable drug should not expect to 
>  share the profits. Profits can still be made after the patents have
>  expired.  Another point that has to be considered is that Indian Pharma
>  companies are notorious for obtaining process patents after the most
>  trivial changes in the original process (They are technically different,
>  still!)  Those who argue that the consumer gets ripped off should realize
>  that, but for the research of the drug companies, they couldn't have
>  laid their hands on the drug in the first place!!
>
>  Prabhu
>

This argument somehow implies that the drug companies are doing
some sort of philonthrophy. No they are not! They are in the
business of making money. If they conduct research, then they will
survive. If the don't, then they fail. Period. The fellow who
provides a product at a cheap price, and keeps pace with the
competetion survives. Others just fold up. Why should governments
go up and prop up these companies profits? Look! In capitalism
everyone works after money! Understand. It is the law of capitalism
that the best survive! Let that be so with the drug lords.
...kt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chitoor@thorin.cis.udel.edu (Srikrishnan R. Chitoor)
Subject: Re: I know who make anonymous
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:59:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.214641.893@fuug.fi> an4494@anon.penet.fi writes:
>

[...]

>Ruchir "pondpaka" Godura. think no Bengali. actual ask lab mate and
>then post. fight with deb on net. this way get revenge. travel by 8B.

My god! you must be some kind of psychic. Ruchir does ask me for those :-).

[...]

-Krishna.
Opinions are mine.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: Indo-China issues, Sum Lien
Originator: indu@iss700
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 18:49:51 GMT

To: yangze@acf3.nyu.edu
Subject: Re: Indo-china issues, Sum lien

In article <C0JM9L.4sI@cmcl2.nyu.edu> you write:
>sramacha@aludra.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran) writes:
>
>>>	O sure. Tell me the Tiannanmen story. And Gulags. And Mao. You
>>>	do not understand a word of what Buddha said, just as the Muslims 
>>>	don't understand a whit of what Quran is about, hanging on to
>>>	the edicts and fatwas by God-damned Mullahs and Hindus get duped
>>>	by the shankaracharyas and Godmen.
>>>
>>>	FFT
>
>>Well, China has an enormous potential to light up this world with the
>>teachings of Buddha.  Buddha epitomizes peace more than even Ram or
>>Gandhi (my opinion) If China is to be a torch-bearer of Buddha's ideals,
>>one way for it to start is to stop selling arms.
>
>This is another bullshit, this guy is telling us not selling weapons
>to feed our people but let them starve to death (like in India).

   Well said, by my chinese bud. This fellow needs some amount of 
   appreciation for following Buddhist ideals to the word, I guess.

   Is providing a "terrorist-country" with a reason that you are feeding
   some humans in China is hieght of Buddhist philosophy? Must 
   be Maoist-Buddhism.
   
   Is trampling the TIBETAN region and making it  devoid of its BUDDHIST 
   leanings also Buddhist ideology and "feeding starved chinese"?

   How about attacking and occupying other country states??   
   Now I understand why China has not yet rejected its Maoist leanings and
   revolting revolutions.

   This fellow will understand the "Islamic" fundamentalism when the 
   demon slowly comes out in  the South-Western provinces start moving. 
   [This is after reading reports that the COMMUNIST regime in China is 
    now in a fix to find solutions to curb the rising MUSLIM FUNDAMENTALISM 
    in China. ]

   Before you start  preaching everybody else, first set your communist 
   records straight.  Otherwise, some middle of the night,
   your China may disappear in some moment of Galsnost and Perestroika.

   Who knows, it may turn into Islamic Republic of China, from Communist :-)

   [By the way, how many people were trampled during the Tianmen massacre
    Officially and Actually? Just the figures? 

    Was that to feed Hungry chinese or Power starving chinese? ]

   
>Ze Yang

-Indu.
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From: Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu (Sudarshan S. Chawathe)  
Subject: Re: DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
Originator: chaw@Pluto.Stanford.EDU
X-Disclaimer: Blame it on the cat.
Reply-To: Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu (Sudarshan S. Chawathe)  
Fcc: log/outgoing
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  4 Jan 93 07:55:47 GMT

dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:

>REF:	DEADLINE TO STOP POSTING OFFENSIVE OR RACIST MATERIAL ON 
>	SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN

>After Tuesday, January 5, 1992 at midnight, if I see *any* postings or replies
>to postings that are offensive, racist or intolerable to me, I will forward 
>copies to your respective system administrators, who will then decide what 
>action, if any, to take against you.  In effect, it will be your sys ads who 
>will then determine if the material is unsuitable for public medium, not me.
>He/she may then decide whether you should be denied write access to USENET or
>be further penalized. (Some of the postings seen recently may even be used as
>evidence for civil/criminal litigation.)

Holy cow!  Is that scary or what!  I suggest you cc: their Moms too;
that way we can all be sure they get a nice spanking and no cookies for
a week eh?

Get a life!

-Chaw

_________________________________________________________________________
Chaw@cs.Stanford.edu                                         tat tvam asi

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china
From: srini@ecf.toronto.edu (KANDALA SRINIVAS)
Subject: Re: Indo-china issues, Sum lien
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:43:11 GMT

In article <C0K8MI.nL@cmcl2.nyu.edu> yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang) writes:
>srini@ecf.toronto.edu (KANDALA SRINIVAS) writes:
>
>>In article <C0JzHM.G7x@cmcl2.nyu.edu> yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang) writes:
>>>
>>>You sarcasm about my previous post can only reveal your stupidity.
>>>
>
>>Moral: If you don't agree with me you are stupid!
>
>That's Mr. Srinivsas's belief.
>
Well, that seems your implication from what I read.



srini
-- 
Blue Jays: 1992 World Champions 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
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Subject: Sameet Hypocrazy
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:58:42 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bond@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Girish)
Subject: 66 killed in riots in Western parts of the country
Organization: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:44:04 GMT


Subject says it all.

Death toll in Mumbai: 48.

In Ahmedabad and Baroda: 18.

(These are official figures).
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: TAJMAHAL  ------  A POEM
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:49:24 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1993Jan12.055110.23873@mtu.edu> srsurapa@mtu.edu (Surapanani) writes:


Reminds me of what Shri Rajendra Prasad, the first President of India 
had once said about the Taj Mahal.

He said, and I quote, "The Taj Mahal is a tear on the cheek of time".

Regards,
Vivek.

-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raju@cs.UAlberta.CA (Raju Patil)
Subject: Re: sher-time OR Poetry..
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:16:46 GMT

dinesh@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Dinesh Makhija) writes:

 Thanks Dinesh ...
 Just a small correction.
> 
> Here is  " Title Couplets "  from Madhu-Shala !! 
>  

>             Madira mein jane ko ghar se
              ^^^^^^^^^^^

              MADIRALAYA jaane ko ghar se

>		Chalta hai peene wala

>	     Kiss path se jaun asmanjas 
>		Mein hai wo bhola bhala

>	     Alag alag path batlate sab
>		Par main yeh batlata hoon 
>	     

>	     Rah pakadh tu ek chalachal
>		Pa jayega Madushala..Pa jayega Madhushala..



>With best wishes..

> Dinesh Makhija 

 Raju
From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Ass kissing Sreehari Nimmala style.
Date: 5 Jan 1993 18:24:14 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

This is what Sreehari Nimmala wrote on November 28th on SCI.

>    I see, just because members of Jewish faith peruse this news group, we
>    should not talk about things that would hurt their feelings!!!!  Just
>    because these MEMBERS are around, we should not talk about today's
>    bomb attacks by MEMBERS of this faith on Lebanon, and we should not
>    talk about years of atrocities by members of this faith on
>    Palestinians!!!!! Oh, I never knew that this group is for pleasing the
>    MEMBERS of this particular faith??!!	----SN

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  
This is Sreehari Nimmala, six days later.  At the time he was not aware that
Oded Feingold is a personal friend of mine and that I had set him up with
Nimmala once the idiot posted his now famous anti-semetic posting glorifying
Hitler. I was preview to a lot of the correspondence that was exchanged
between Nimmala and Oded and still retain most of them. 

I do not wish to post page after page of material in which Oded berated,
harangued and spoke disparagingly about the contents of Nimmala's cranial
cavity. But if I have to, I will, even at the risk of wasting bandwidth.

Suffice it to say, that I am offering Nimmala a chance to crawl back into
his hole and shut his trap. Should he decide not take this offer, the Nimmala
Bashing games will begin, in full force. It's your call, dickhead.

  Return-Path: chemsn@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu
  Date: Fri, 4 Dec 92 09:40:11 -0500
  From: chemsn@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
  To: oaf@martigny.ai.mit.edu
  Subject: Re: Final Post(From Me) on Hitler and Related Stuff.

  Hay Mr/Dr/Professor Feingold,
			       can you help me in finding a job in this
  country and subsequently permanent residence status? My present job is
  getting over in a week, and I am not sure where I am going to be from
  a week from now. In return to your help, I am ready to involve myself
  in strenghthening Jewish causes. I also promise not to write anything
  supporting Hitler in the future. Get back to my as soon as you can.

  sn


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Bellnet : (213) 342-1401            |
From: shivanan@bode.usc.edu (Mr. Shivanan Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: HELLO! I AM WANTING TO BE MARRIED!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 14:16:11 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bode.usc.edu

In article <1ii93eINNkp1@aludra.usc.edu> sramacha@aludra.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran) writes:

>>	You can perhaps shop in Kmart, Robinsons or the Broadway.
>>	Perhaps if you need something in bulk quantity go to the
>>	Price Club for good deals. Sears might also help.
>>
>
>	Damn me! I only have a Fedco card !!
>
	hard luck. perhaps if you have a good credit history you can
	apply to the Sears credit card. 

	shivanand bhajekar

>
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: misra@emily.polymer.uakron.edu (Sanjay Misra)
Subject: Take it easy (Re: Indo-china issues, Sum lien)
Organization: Institute of Polymer Science, University of Akron
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:54:55 GMT


	India has problems and so does China. For every high and
	mighty attitude on one side the other could come up with
	another.

	So the Chinese don't fight internecine religious wars. Indians
	don't go jumping and clapping to keep sparrows awake till
	they drop dead from exhaustion. Current GDP growth in China
	is well ahead of India's. Indians elect their government.....Blah, Blah,
	Blah.

	India and China are neighbors but the cultural differences,
	ethnic diversity in each country and the differences in the
	forms of Goverment are extreme. Lets leave it at that. If we
	can find common ground so much the better, if not so what.

	To the Chinese patriots - good luck. 

	Where the hell have Ram Lak^han and Bab^loo~ gone. I miss those
	heroes of Jhhumri Talayya

	Bye Bye

	Sanjay
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Article 30 of the Indian Constitution
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:54:59 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu

>This is a companion article to my posting on fundemental rights in the
>Indian Constitution. I have seperated out the discussion of Article 30 here.
>
>A very important point, is that there is no analog of the Ninth
>Amendment to the US constitution. Indian Supreme Court has held that
....

It must be noted here that the 9th Amendment here has almost NEVER been used
by the Supreme Court to protect anyone's right. My recollection is that it
has never been used, ever, for the simple reason is that it is very difficult
to define what they mean by  "rights not enumerated" in the Constitution. Does
that mean Rights enjoyed by people at the time of the Amendment's writing, or
what? You could use that do bring the functioning of Govt. to an absolute
halt by claiming that a restriction on drug-dealing interferes with your "right"
to commerce, and that a speed-limit restricts your freedom to speed so long
as you don't kill anyone (you won't know that until after the fact anyway).

In the US, the building of parochial institutions is protected by the First
Amendment ("Congress shall make no law... prohibiting the free excercise [of
religion]"). 

I THINK that the 9th was used by the Appeals Court that heard Roe v Wade to 
uphold it, but the Supreme Court didn't use that rationale in its own ruling
anyway.

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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From: akj2532@hertz.njit.edu (anoop jaitli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Going To Canada!!
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:39:33 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.
Originator: akj2532@hertz.njit.edu

Hi!! I have a simple questions for all you gurus out there.  I am an
F1 student studying at NJIT, I wanted to go to visit Canada to see all the
different sights (Toronto, Montreal, etc.).  

The question that I have is whether it is possible for me to go to Canada on
my current status.  I came to this country on a tourist visa and had a 
status change to a F1 visa while I was over here.  Therefore I do not have
a visa stamp on my passport.  There is a stamp on my I-20 and I-94 that I
need a visa to re-enter the US.

If I go to Canada, can I come back to the US without any problems.  I have
checked the I-20's of some of my other friends and they do not have the stamp
on their I-20 that I have.  This is the most confusing part.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Anoop

PS:  You can either post a reply or email to me directly.

New Jersey Institute Of Technology
email: akj2532@hertz.njit.edu


-- 
    "My friends keep telling me:'hey, life will go on!'
    Time will make sure I'll get over you.
    This silly game of love - you play, you win only to lose..."
					-- ROXETTE
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: editor@rbhatnagar.csm.uc.edu (digest editor)
Subject: Re: alt.hindu Newsgroup
Organization: Univ of Cincinnati
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:05:26 GMT

In article <9301052111.AA17214@cec1.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:
>editor@rbhatnagar@csm.usc.edu (???) writes:
>
>> As many of you know, alt.hindu a moderated newsgroup is now
>> online.  We welcome you to take a look at it and invite your
>> postings that are of general interest to our readership.  We post
>> the charter of this newsgroup for your information.
>
> [ Charter for alt.Hindu deleted ]
>
>> ******************************************
>> Posted By: Editors of alt.hindu
>> editor@rbhatnagar.csm.uc.edu
>> *****************************************
>
>    Who are the editors of this moderated newsgroup?
>
>    The moderated USENET newsgroups that I read provide the names
>of their moderators, but `alt.hindu' is an exception. I have not
>seen the names of the moderators of `alt.hindu' so far in `alt.
>hindu'.
>
> - SP.
>

Several people help in editing (moderating) alt.hindu.
Therefore, you have not seen the names of the Editors, our 
general convention of signing is Editors (or Moderators), alt.hindu.

Among the people involved are
Sunil Gokhle (Northeastern University)
Prasad Gokhle (University of New Brunswick, Canada)
Raj Bhatnagar (University of Cincinnati)
and many others.

Hope this ansers your questions.  Please feel free to do 
finger on editor@rbhatnagar.csm.uc.edu account for
further information.  We welcome your participation in alt.hindu
We will keep the group low volume, substantive and pro-Hindu.
There are many anti-Hindu groups on USENET, this group is 
a sanctuary for those harbouring pro-Hindu views and those
interested in learning about the Hindu dharma.

Thank you and Namaste.

Editors, alt.hindu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Subject: Re: Massacre in Kashmir
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:15:18 GMT

In article <1il9bbINN5ek@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu>, vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu
(Vivek R. Prabhu) writes:
> In article <1993Jan8.173003.46230@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> >In article <C0Jn6G.3v8@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v122npej@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu 
> >(Sareer A Fazili) writes:
> >> This is in response to Vivek, he of the firm faith in the "security
forces"
> >> lodged some 500,000 strong in Kashmir. It is too bad that some of us can't
see
> >> the writing on the wall when it comes to the brutal force being used by
the
> 
> Just a small point here.  The total number of troops employed in the
> BSF as well as the CRPF and ITBP, in Jammu and Kashmir itself is not 
> more than 100,000 at the most. There is no space in the place itself 
> to accomodate so many troops as you have mentioned.
> 
> Regards,
> Vivek.
> -- 
> vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
> Research Assistant, Systems Engineering Lab., Dept. Of Computer Science, 
> School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
> California State University, Chico, California.



Continuing on this subject, I would recommend nettors to read the article
on custodial deaths in Kashmir, in the Jan15 issue of India Today. 


--Javed. 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:43878 soc.culture.tamil:5131 soc.culture.indian.telugu:1683
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Sneaky posts from women's net
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:53:03 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Paul Joseph accuses:
>There are all kinds everywhere. There are lots of guys fresh from India
>who are quite well adept in asking a girl out. So Fafat - how would you
>know if "desi" guys are not good at this - unless you didnt like the
>way some guy asked you out .....

	hey hey! First, I would be indignant if a "guy" asked me out on a 
	date. heck, does my first name sound feminine? #%#$%$^%&$@#!@#
	For the record, NO GUY HAS ASKED ME OUT AS YET :)
	Second, you have written a good article but directed it against
	the wrong person. Your aim was Shubu. Even the original was posted
	by me but represented female gossip [I did'nt write it]

	FFT
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: AIDS drug by indian firm
Date: 11 Jan 1993 19:03:35 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu

Virendra Agrawal (vagarwal@shearson.com) sez:

>>   I wonder at the general tone the article took, which was distinctly 
>>   anti-western ("... the US and its imperialist allies..."). One look 
>         ^^^^^^^
>	Go Ahead and appease them Mr. Sanders (I am sorry Sunder) .
>	I see that you feel threatened if someone challenges your Masters.

Gee, it's always nice to be called a slave of Western Capitalists by someone
using an e-mail account from as visible a symbol of capitalism as Shearson
Lehman, which is owned by American Express.

At least that way, I **KNOW** the extent of his credibility and seriousness.

>	NOT a flame.

Yeah, right.

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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