HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Re: new report on kitty's condition
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:34:31 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.121824.1@max.u.washington.edu> maji@max.u.washington.edu
writes:
>I want to thank you all there for the help and love toward my kitty. I
>received many helpful and supportive message. Now I want to tell you
>the progress kitty made:
>
>After vomitting on Monday midnight, kitty didn't vomit for 24 hours.
>He vomitted again last midnight, I think it is because I force feed
>too much. Last night he went back to his sweet oldself. He slept on
>my shoulder and arm and chest, and kiss me on the face in between.
>that is something he hadn't done for three days.  In the morning,
>(7:30am), I walked down to his food plate, he immediately followed.
>although when I open different brands of canfood, he sniffed, but don't
>touch. finally, the "fancy fest" caught his appetite. I only give him
>two small teaspoons, afraid his stomache won't accept it too well.
>
>now it is noon, he still follows us to the referigerator where the can
>food is kept. but this time he doesn't like either of those brands,
>(including fancy fest.)  I shall play with him for a while to see if
>he like to eat again. if not, I will force feed some A/D again. He
>learned very quickly how to act to avoid feeding or taking pills.
>
>During the four days, kitty never stopped drinking water. Yesterday he
>produced urine both in the morning and evening. although it smelled
>strong, concentrated. the quantity is large/normal.
>
>Thanks again for all your help.
>li
>
Hope your kitty is feeling better.  I know I am not alone in saying that I hope
you will give another progress report.
From: jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: people who cats recognise as cat-lovers (was: Re: Why do I do this to myself????)
Summary: yes, I'm one too
Keywords: cat like love monopolize stranger divorce
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:34:12 GMT
Organization: U of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity

In article <1992Jul27.192147.3996@ncar.ucar.edu> vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu
(Vicki Holzhauer) writes [I think I have the attribution right here,
if not please forgive me]:
>... cats
>can spot a cat aura from a mile away.  Why else do strange cats *run*
>out to fling themselves on their backs in front of me when I go for a
>walk at night?  Or sit on their lawns and talk to me if they're too
>shy to come out?  (Because they know I'll talk back!)  They are very
>mysterious animals, and they *know* a cat lover when they see one!

Ah, a fellow cat-lover-who-cats-see-coming...  Several of the
neighborhood cats now come running out to the sidewalk for cat-love-time
if they see me walking by (this sometimes leads to missed busses :-( ).
It's the same at each place I live in, I must also have that "cat lover"
invisible-except-to-feline-eyes aura...  (I suspect it's rather common
amongst rec.pets.cats readers.)

But what do you tell your own cat(s) when you stop to pet "stranger"
cats?  I can just see the scene:
human:	Hi, kitty, I'm home ...
cat:	Well it's about time, where's my dinner?
human:	(makes the "cat signal", i.e. the sound of cat food being opened)
cat:	(runs up to eat)
cat:	Just a minute?  Just what do you think you've been up to lately?
	I smell "strange cat" on your hand?  And that's NOT MY FUR on
	your clothes!  And there's kitty-lipstick on your face!  Who is
	she?
human:	It's ok, kitty, I just stopped to pet a cat on the sidewalk...
cat:	A likely story!  Why I'll bet you even scratched her chin!  Why
	you've got no more decency than a D-O-G.  What am I going to tell
	the kittens, they'll be ashamed to hold their whiskers out in
	public if word gets around of this!  If I every catch you fooling
	around again with some cheap hussy, that's it!
human:	Just wait a minute!  I can explain it all!
...

Given Mortina II's extreme dislike for other cats, I'd ask all of you,
please, not to tell her that I'm "two-timing" her!


- Jonathan Thornburg [and Mortina (II), who lives on Thetis Island BC Canada]
  <jonathan@einstein.ph.utexas.edu> or <jonathan@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu>
  University of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
  and (for a few more months) U of British Columbia / {Astronomy,Physics}
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic)
Subject: Re: Spots on Kitty's Chin??- HELP!!
Summary: cats get acne!
Organization: gte
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:45:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.084430.1169@guvax.georgetown.edu>, cwilliams@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:
> My cat seems to have a problem with tiny "sores" on her chin.  I
> notice  a few spots where the fur is gone and sometimes there
> seems to be just a dot of blood on the spot.  The missing
> patches of fur are really tiny spots but noticeable.  The spots
> are not necessarily near her gum line and I didn't notice any
> problems with her gums when I looked.
> 
> Does anyone have any idea what this could be?  
> 
> Otherwise the kitty is fine - acting like her usual self.
> 
> Any ideas are appreciated...
> 

Cats get acne on their chins, just like people do. Honeycat had
it there, but his never bled, just looked like little blackheads,
so the vet said not to worry about it. When we moved to dry
Arizona, it went away! Anyhow, get it checked out by the vet,
but that's probably what it is, and you can get an ointment
for it.

-- 
Mindy
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Mindy Machanic  (AG Communication Systems/Quality Engineering, Phoenix, AZ)               
(This space available for interesting messages and the usual disclaimers...)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: machanicm@gtephx.UUCP (Mindy Machanic)
Subject: Re: Are all tricolor cats female?
Summary: not retarded
Organization: AG Communication Systems, Phoenix, Arizona
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:16:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul15.233447.15837@sequent.com>, cyndie@sequent.com (Cyndie Sutherland) writes:
> >could only be orange or black.  However, a very rare condition
> >occurs when a male cat has _three_ sex chromosomes - XXY.
> >This male cat _will_ be a tortoise shell or calico.  He
> >will also be slightly retarded and probably sterile.
> 
> So, I wonder if my female calico, which my vet and I suspect is
> slighty retarded, has three (XXX) chromozones???
> 

I missed the original on this somehow, and relaynews was busy so I suspect
my original post on this bounced...

WRONG!!! Huggy Bear is a boy. The vet asked if I was sure he was a boy
(before she checked for herself), because he is white and black and red.
(He also has  "van" coloring, with white body with one large black spot--
and that spot is now getting striped with light tan--and white legs with
one tiny black spot, and a fluffy black tail, now getting striped with
light tan, and white at its base, and a white head with black and red--
definitely reddish brown, not cream--triangular patches in front of his
ears, and amber eyes. Long-haired.) He is not retarded - he is one of the 
smartest kitties I've had the pleasure to watch. He figured out the cat door
before he was 8 weeks old, without ever being shown, by watching the
two older cats come and go. He figures out all kinds of stuff, and he
learns very quickly when we teach him stuff (like if he fights and plays
in the bedroom too much when we are trying to go to sleep, he gets locked
in the living room. Two nights of that and one night of being left in
because he went to sleep, and he had learned that one. Now he sleeps with
us all the time. This is a 12 week old kitten. Maybe 13 weeks.)

So genetics and theorizing be damned...boys can be tricolor, and tricolors
are not necessarily retarded. I don't know about the sterile, but he sure
acts like his testosterone is moving in there - he bullies the other two
older (neutered male) cats.

-- 
Mindy
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Mindy Machanic  (AG Communication Systems/Quality Engineering, Phoenix, AZ)               
(This space available for interesting messages and the usual disclaimers...)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Sleeping with Cats
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:40:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.163815.13075@u.washington.edu> lcornell@milton.u.washington.edu (Linda Cornell) writes:
>>: >How many of you sleep with your cats?
>I couldn't sleep without them - I go through withdrawl on vacations!

Boy, you got *that* right!  At the end of my vacations I'm always in
such a hurry to get home and see my babies.  Of course, the first
night I'm back they walk on me all night, either because they're so
happy to see me or because they're trying to punish me for making
them spend so many nights alone ... :-)

I rarely stay over at others' houses.  I say it's because I like to go
home and sleep in my own bed, but it's really because I don't sleep
well unless Abigail and Zarabeth are somewhere near by.





--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
From: kalin@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (andrew.j.kalinowitsch)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What does he DO in there???
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:15:11 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Does your kitchen sink drip?  Most cats go through a phase of being
fascinated with dripping water.  Last summer, Fu would lay in my
dripping bathroom sink for hours, until the lower two-thirds of her
body was completely soaking wet.  One of my parents' cats would only 
drink water from a dripping bathroom sink (and it had to be dripping
at a certain rate, or forget it, she'd rather be thirsty).

andy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.)
Subject: Re: What is she thinking? (was Re: What does he DO in there???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:56:00 GMT

In article <p2nm!2@lynx.unm.edu>, pjohnso@triton.unm.edu (Paddy Johnso writes...

>manages to get outside frequently.  When I get home from work, she is 
>almost always sitting in the same position in the same place on the 
>shed roof.  The position is somewhat sphinx-like, with the ears erect,
>but the eyes are half-closed.  Her tail is either curled around her feet
>or straight out in back depending on the temperature.  She can sit this
>way for hours.  My question is: What is she thinking about when she is
>doing this?  The shed roof overlooks a small enclosed patio where nothing

Your cat is having an out-of-cat experience similar to what a person would 
feel while meditating or ingesting various psychedelic substances. It is 
likely that she is connecting with the .5th dimension, an alternative 
"universe" that many animals have an awareness of but that humans cannot 
sense. In this universe, all is well and blissful.

Mike



Mike McCurdy			Disclaimer:
VAX Systems Management		     
San Diego State University		"Everything I say may be wrong."
mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu
From: gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Wierd Cat?
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:39:05 GMT
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

In article <1992Jul26.173328.5316@rock.concert.net> jim@sun0.elon.edu (Jim Murphy CS Faculty) writes:

>   Our adopted cat has a real love of getting under a piece of newspaper.
>   We can cover him with a single sheet of newspaper and he can lie there
>   and behave himself for quite a long time. He sometimes plays "chase"
>   and runs back under his sheet of paper. Is this normal? He now expects
>   his newspaper each night!

Kinda does this too.  She especially likes thinner paper (like tissue paper)
because she can tear it better.  Even if she doesn't fit under the paper,
she'll manage to get it draped over as much of her as possible and pretend
she's hidden.  I guess it's a version of the paper bag game.

If this isn't normal, I think we're in trouble.  This is about as "normal" 
as it gets for Kinda!  :-)

Rene
--
From: gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: SCOOPABLE KITTY LITTER ?
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:31:34 GMT
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

In article <1992Jul23.205014.12498@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper) writes:

>   Even though the packaging on the scoopable litter
>   says you can go a year without changing the whole
>   box, I personally have to change it every month
>   or the smell drives me crazy.  I still like it better
>   than regular clay litter.  So do the cats.  Rascal 
>   hovers beside me while I'm scooping, waiting to
>   get first dibs on the "clean" spot!

I've been using Cats Pride scoopable litter.  It seems fine, but I
haven't been using it long enough to tell how it is in the long run.

My cats look at me oddly when I scoop stuff out of the litter box.
I wonder what they're thinking??

Rene
--
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
Subject: Pounce: Result of Cat Survey
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 19:41:05 GMT

After hearing on the net how much cats like Pounce I got a
can, and gave some to my cat and 9 neighborhood cats.

Results: Every single cat ate it, very hungrily. The more greedy
cats screamed for it, and licked my fingers to get every last
bit of the taste!

I've never seen anything like this with any other cat treat. (You can't
even get 10 out of 10 cats to like catnip!) I wonder what they put in
it!

Lenore Levine

P.S. (I wish I had ten cats...instead of the only one that practical
considerations allow at this time.)
From: pmmuggli@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (pauline muggli)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What IS it with Q-tips?
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:32:46 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, Univ. of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Originator: mdtll@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu


  margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:
>(stuff deleted)
 
>How about shredded newspapers?  I have a couple of boxes and a bag of this
>from ceramics.  Mia, my Siamese cat, absolutely loves it!  She acts all
>crazy with her head close to the floor and her butt up in the air, and
>she runs around the kitchen floor, her tail having spaz attacks.  My

i have a box with the edges of computer paper (the "holey" part)
and midnite nests in it.  when i first gave it to her, she would
run at it and i got tired of gathering if from all over the
living room.  so now i have it in a 3" high box.  she'll get in
it and fluff it up.  and since it would just get thrown away at
school...      she does like it better at first because it isn't
crushed down - i guess because it makes more noise.

pauline
From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: training a cat to use the TOILET ???
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:54:18 GMT
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Organization: Materials Research Lab


Yes, we've been working on training our cats to use the toilet.
We've gotten as far as moving the litter box all the way up to the 
toilet seat so the next step is to get the box on the toilet and then 
find something to take the place of the box. Our kitties are doing
very well..they are still using the box, believe it or not...of course, 
this is going to make it VERY difficult to get those stool samples the
vet wants! 

We've been taking it ever so slow though. We've just been putting
the Thursday and Sunday papers under the box, so as you can 
imagine,it's been a mighty long time. (we only get the paper those
days, in case you are wondering why only those days). We finally
gave up the HUGE mound of papers in the bathroom and opted for 
using the dog's travel crate, which is just the right size...:-)

Kay
 
  
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From: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Adamcik)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Female versus Male
Date: 24 Jul 1992 18:17:20 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: avi@rix.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: rix.corp.sun.com

In article 4348@sura.net, nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn) writes:
> (stuff deleted)
>
>This is, of course, IMHO, but *in my experience* males tend to be a
>little less hyper and more affectionate.  (Oh, boy, I know that's going
>to stir up a beehive!)

I currently have one male cat and two females.  The females are *much* more 
affectionate and calm than the male.  I think it has a lot more to do with 
the individual cats than with any sort of gender-related characteristics.

-Ann (and Maggie, Pete, & Mango)


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cid@athena.mit.edu (Derek H Cedillo)
Subject: Suddenly lazy cat? HELP!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 12:50:30 GMT

Hi,
I have a long haired cat named george, who has a short haired sis
named gracie. Both of them are very active and always wrestling around.
This is the way they were yesterday when I left for work.
When I came home, Gracie came up and greeted me like usual, but
george just laid on the bed and did not move.  He scratched me when
I tried to pet him.  The whole rest of the evening he ignored everything,
hasnt really eaten, just laid in a ball (he always sprawls out, never 
really laying in a ball like that)  He doesnt even budge when his brush
comes out, which he always brushes himself, with us just holding the
brush out.  Please help.  Can cats get the flu like this?  Could it be
something serious.  I have a feeling its somethhing like the flu, but
I am worried none the less.  Please respond ASAP



Thank you

Derek
From: janet@indetech.com (Janet Christian)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: urine odor in concrete
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:59:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA

In article <1992Jul30.214821.30163@europa.asd.contel.com> draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com writes:
>The place I rent previous had a rottweiller that peed everywhere.  I made
>them replace most of the carpet.  One spot the floorboard needed removing
>but they wouldn't do it; consequently, when it's warm and humid the odor
>is noticeable there.  But, the basement is unfinished and the odor
>in the concrete just never seems to go away.  Actually it's been at least
>a year and half since this dog lived there.  Any suggestions how to
>get the odor out of the concrete?
>


Try a thorough soaking with vinegar. I keep vinegar in a spray bottle, and thoroughly
mist/soak any place that the cats occasionally go.

Janet
-- 
   Janet Christian             jchristian@indetech.com

My boss agrees with everything I say - well, actually, he thinks I'm working.  
"Never argue with a Scorpio - it's frustrating and you'll lose, anyway..."
From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Attitude
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:05:48 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


Just thought I would share.

Every morning when I shower Kepurr (14-15lb male tiger) has to be in
the same room.  For some reason he has been on a hunting spree for the
last few nights and he is a loud hunter.  I get up and find all kinds
of wild toys that really put up a fight by my side of the bed.  This
morning while I was drying he was still talking to me and I looked down
at him and asked if he ever shut up.  One ear went down and I asked him
something else and he didn't answer, just ignored me, so I asked if the
cat got his tongue.  I though it was funny, if looks could kill!  He
still wasn't talking when I left for work, and my husband thought this 
was very funny.  If he tells the other four cats I will have a very 
interesting night.
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From: rw@donner.Rational.COM (Bob Weissman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: I hope no one else has done this!
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:36:14 GMT

One time I was watching my cat play on the windowsill.  She managed to
get her neck completely tangled in the dangling mini-blind pull-
string.  If I hadn't been there, she might have hanged herself.

Now I make sure the pull-strings are out of reach when I go out.

--
-- Bob Weissman
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:26:57 -0400 
From: Diane Gibson <dg0q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: cat gone mad
Distribution: na

Libby writes:

>....... Anyway, about a year ago she started having these "fits" 
>where she would with no provication attack my mother.  These attacks
are quite 
>vicious--she clearly is not trying to play.  She bites and scratches her, and 
>if my mom tries to get away, she follows and continues the attack. 
When these 
>"fits" come on, you can tell by her eyes, she suddenly has a crazed look.....

This sounds similar to what happened with my cat, and we eventually did
have to put her to sleep (the vet believed it was either a brain tumor
or lesion).  She started out attacking our other cat -- then started to
attack us -- and afterwards, she always looked confused, like she didn't
know what just happened.  You could see it coming, though, because her
pupils got very enlarged.

Anyway, BEFORE we put her to sleep, we tried a several of drugs, which
were each effective for a time (this went on over 2 years).  Valium, a
common steroid, and an anti-seizure medication were the most effective,
each for several months (I'm sorry, I can't remember the names of the
drugs, but they were common and used for people also).  A 'kitty birth
control pill', which was supposed to reduce aggression, had just the
opposite effect on her.

I don't have the files anymore, so I can't look up the names of the
drugs -- and I'm sorry I've forgotten, but it was such a painful period
that it is still difficult to recall.  She was SUCH a sweet cat, that I
still miss her, but we went through so much trying and heal her (and
tramatized our other cat, I'm afraid).........

I don't want to think about it anymore, but maybe one of these drugs
will work for your Mom's cat.  Good luck and I sympathize,

Diane and Suki
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA