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From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Rapists on the payroll of CPI(M).
Keywords: Spineless society
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:22:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul21.144822.21157@engr.uark.edu>, me@comstore.uark.edu 
(My Account) writes...
>......(deleted).....
>I would like to say that the Calcutta Police department should immediately  
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>conduct a public trial of the criminals and they should be given life  
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>imprisonment without bail.  
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>....... (stuff deleted) ......

With all due respects Ms.Aditi Sen, I think that you are in U.S for 3-4 decades
and thus your comments are naive and out of place. FYI, CPI(M) has, with care,
systematically demolished ALL the norms of a standard civic life in West Bengal.
The reason: they don't get enough seats from Calcutta. I think that instead of
listening to any and everybody, read the newspapers which come to North America
on a weekly basis from Calcutta (English, I mean). I hope that after 3 months u'
will be absolved of all your " sins " - committed out of ignorance. 

My point: You are a very kind-hearted lady, but, totally ignorant and naive.

- deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
From: kep@calmasd.Prime.COM (Patteaswaran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: e-mail address for IIT Kanpur and Anna Univ. Madras wanted
Keywords: IIT Kanpur
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:58:49 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <19227@plains.NoDak.edu> lakshmip@plains.NoDak.edu (Chandrasekar Lakshmipathi) writes:
>Hi everyone:
>
>	Also can someone tell me the e-mail address of Center of
>Biotech in Anna University, Madras?
>
>	Thanks in advance
>
>-chandrasekar     (lakshmip@plains.nodak.edu)


Anna University library has a mailing address. 
It is :  shakti!vikram!csird!csirm!annalib@uunet.uu.net
( A big route from CSIR Delhi ... CSIR Madras ... Anna University )

From the above, it looks like the user id is annalib, which means you
can't send it to a specific user within it.
Try sending one, I haven't sent one myself.

I don't know about the Center of Biotech. You can try via lib to reach them.

Hope that helps,

Easwaran
kep@calmasd.prime.com


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From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.food
Subject: Re: Marshmellow mold
Keywords: Marshmellow mold
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:47:38 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <l78lu3INNa8q@alcor.usc.edu> subrahma@usc.edu (Sudhakar Subrahmanyam) writes:
>
>I am looking for a mold to make marshmellows of the order of a few hundreds. 
>Could someone tell me where I could find such molds? I tried quite a few groceries and confectioners here in LA and also called KRAFT. Couldn't find one. 
>I need the name and address of  the firm from which I could purchase one. 
>Reply to:
>subrahma@aludra.usc.edu

If you leave your marshmellows in a cool, humid place for a few months (leave
the bag open) you will be sure to find much mold on your marshmellows.  This
is much more economical than buying fungi from ATCC.

Ed
From: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (Gopakumar VENUGOPALAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: What will I do in India(Re: Rape in Bengal)
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:55:08 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul26.221255.931@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>
>> Arindam, if you go back, what are u' going to do ? I see that:
>*My individual plan is based on three planks:
>
>1. Join as a professor in IIT Kharagpur. Do something to help India flex
>its muscle in science. Revive the moribund NSS(National Service Scheme)
>to do some useful work. As a hall-warden to show new students that there
>is work for them in India if he doesn't find the greener pastures of USA
>so stimulating once he reaches there and keep them off from drug,alcohol,
>and pornography and wasting their energies in "hall tempo". 
>I have 4 years of first hand experience and I was not one of the "commies".
    Dont brand all these as unacceptable,If an adolescent experiments let
    him didnt Clinton try not to inhale but experiment? 

>2. Use Galudih, a tribal town in Bihar where my parents are planning to
>settle when they retire to try to help the tribals get their voice heard
>without falling in the trap of separatist movements and "western" values.
>Personally, being a product of St. Xaviers +2 system; I think I know what
>it is required to make students go to IIT. I am going to make sure that
>these tools are available to the tribal children. Now this is more important
>as quotas are abolished; a decision I support
>
>3.Use Calcutta, my current home to make sure that the children of the 
>prostitutes get enough help so they don't have to bear a burden of shame.
>Prostitution was always religiously unacceptable but socially respectable
>in ancient India.

   My misinformed friend prostitution has always had religious scantion in
   in India.The very concept of the devadasi system stems from it.Karnataka
   has a whole village were girls at a very young age are set aside as 
   prostitutes for the village  Goddess.This practice is not all acceptable
   by any reigious standards but the fact is that it is still prevalent
   and tradition is resisting any  effort to rehabilitate them.




> 3 is day dreamingas I don't have any first hand experience;
> but then neither do any of the readers I think.
>
    HAPPY DREAMING

  gopa 




  ALFRED E NEUMANN FOR PRESIDENT
  ANGELA E NEUMANN FOR RUNNNING MATE
From: murali@davidsys.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: INFO REQUESTED ON BRADLEY UNIV ..
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:18:11 PST
Organization: DAVID Systems Inc, Sunnyvale CA

Looking for information about housing and cost etc.
and availability about on-campus jobs at Bradley University.
	
Also if there is someone that can be contacted in the Indian
Association by phone or email.

(This information is for a person joining this fall - 1992)

Thanking you in anticipation.

Murali

email: murali@davidsys.com
From: budaraju@cae.wisc.edu (Srinivas Budaraju)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Hitler pushing Skypak
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:43:31 GMT
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

From: nigel.allen@canrem.com (Nigel Allen)
Newsgroups: misc.activism.progressive
Subject: Ad Featuring Image of Hitler Continues to Run in Business Magaz
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:17:35 GMT

Press release from the Anti-Defamation League

 Ad Featuring Image of Hitler Continues to Run in Business Magazine
 To: Business Desk
 Contact: Myrna Shinbaum of the Anti-Defamation League,
          212-490-2525, ext. 145

   NEW YORK, July 23 /U.S. Newswire/ -- An ad for an international
courier service depicting Adolph Hitler continues to run in Business
India (June 22-July 5) despite the parent company's promise to the
Anti-Defamation League (ADL) to pull the ad.
   The ADL had received complaints about an advertisement for
"Skypak" depicting Hitler in a swastika armband on a speakers
platform surrounded by Nazi flags and supporters with arms raised in
the Nazi salute which appeared in the March 16 issue of Business
India.
   "After indicating that the incident would not occur again, we were
astonished to see the ad...in the June 22 issue of Business India,"
Kenneth Jacobson, ADL director of international affairs, wrote to
Paul Moorhouse, group chief operating officer of TNT Express
Worldwide, the London-based parent company of Skypak.
   "How could this have happened?" asked Jacobson, after "you told us
that 'action of this nature will not be tolerated anywhere in the
world.'" Jacobson's July 23 letter referred to communication with the
company over a three month period.
   In an April 24 letter to Jacobson, Tom Bye, general manager for
corporate affairs of TNT said, "We share your feelings concerning the
content of the advertisement and I have personally written to the
president of our agent company [in India] expressing our strong
disapproval of it." Bye added that TNT "very much regrets any offence
caused by the advertisement" and pledged "to reinforce our policy on
corporate approval of all local advertising to insure such incidents
are not repeated."
   In an April 28 letter to Jacobson, Moorhouse wrote he was "utterly
appalled" when he saw a copy of the ad and expressed "our dismay in
the strongest terms to the agent responsible in India." He added that
"actions of this nature will not be tolerated anywhere in the world."
 -30-
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vlohia@sun425.nas.nasa.gov (Ved P. Lohia)
Subject: Adresses of Indian Medical Colleges
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:58:56 GMT
Distribution: usa


 Hi,


 I'm looking for addresses of medical schools where one 
 can get admission by donation.

 Please E-mail replies to lohia@prathvi.sun.com

 Thanks in Advance

  -Ved
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Calcutta: Do we really have any solution?
Date: 28 Jul 1992 13:32:41 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul28.154751.15235@ctr.columbia.edu> me@comstore.uark.edu (My Account) writes:

>I thought THAT was the basic problem of the communist  
>revolution all over the world. In the name of the 'end', they  
>preached senseless violence, preached distrust, suspicion,  
>restricted freedom  of speech and movement. 

I must disagree Ms.Sen. The basic problem with Communism is the
lack of incentive for the common man on the street. It is easy to brainwash
him for a while into beleiving that he must work for the State or the country.
But eventually as our animal instinct surfaces, he is bound to think for
himself and ask what is there in it for him. Unless you can show him
financial rewards or incentives, he will not give his best on the job
and productivity will suffer. I think most Communist leaders realise this
and hence the need for totalitarian regimes and propaganda, to prevent
the "petty burguois" from thinking along those lines.

What you have described are the symptoms behind the malaise. The disease in
this case is of course the fact that Communism runs counter to evolution
and the animal instincts that most of us harbor, however subtle that might
be.



>My whole point is end does not justify the means. HOW  
>the changes take place is as important as WHAT the changes are. 
>

I on the other hand believe in the more Netaji or Sardar Patel like 
philosophy of the end justifying the means, especially when it
comes to a Govt. as despostic as the CPIM. My concern for the democratic
institutions being subverted, ends at Jyoti Basu's doorstep.


>Displacing CPM in any manner whatsoever is NOT going to solve the  
>problems completely. It may be only a supeficial treatment. 

Yes, but it will be a start and we have to begin somewhere. It is not
enough to say that the CPIM is lousy but until we have someone better,
let them stay in power. Waiting for a benefactor may be the Indian way
of life, but unfortunately the waiting period is too long and time is 
something we dont have on our hands, atleast not in Bengal.


>The  
>solution has to come through due process. We have to restore  
>democracy at any cost. 

The due process of elections has been completely subverted in Bengal by
the CPIM. How can we wait for a solution to come through that process.
The situation demands extraordinary methods and unless we do something
along those lines, the prospect for subsequent generations of our people
will be exceedingly bleak. The time for action is NOW, not later.

Samit
 


>--- Aditi Sen. 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rgopu@cs.tamu.edu (Rangarathnam Gopu)
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:53:10 GMT

In article <26JUL199217032359@rosie.uh.edu> eleea48@rosie.uh.edu (Thomas, Thomas) writes:
>It was a great shock to me to hear the NBC commentator describe India
>during the opening ceremonies as a "poor nation, without synthetic playing
>surfaces".
>I know for a fact that in at least two places(Bangalore and Delhi),there
>are synthetic playing surfaces.
>If commentators of national networks make such obnoxious comments, where
>does this leave us?
>As  the Olympics Opening Ceremonies, is one of the most widely watched
>events,this will surely leave a pathetic image of India in the eyes
>of millions of American viewers. It also goes to show that people still
>regard India as a poor underdeveloped nation.
>I wonder when this will change ?

	Instead of just posting articles on s.c.i and just discussing
	among ourselves the pathetic ignorance of India in this 
	country, shouldn't we do something about it? Like write to 
	NBC maybe? And send a list of the artificial turfs in India
	to them.

		This is a persistent and consistent attitude that seems
	to be characteristic of most Indians. Discuss the problem among
	ourselves, shake our heads in disbelief at all the stupidities 
	going on, and get on with our lives.

		I dont expect an overnight revolution in the attitudes
	of the American media, but if the Indian community were more
	vocal in the espousal of their opinions and in correcting the
	misinformation spread by the American media, BY USING THE AMERICAN
	FORA - newspapers, magazines.. - maybe we can collectively improve
	the situation. This is something to be sustained by long term
	effort. And on a mass scale. 

		The impact of a letter to the editor of any magazine or
	newspaper is infinitesimal. Even if it is published. But when
	a newspaper or a magazine gets a horde of letters, they are bound
	to take some notice. It is only individuals who make up the mass.
	Each of us must make a sincere effort to improve the image of 
	India, and to prevent the spread of false information about her.

		I'll put my money where my mouth is. I'll post copies
	of future letters that I write to mags, papers etc. Hope that
	inspires some others to take similar action. For starters,
	I'll shortly post a copy of the letter I am sending to NBC
	on this very subject. 

	Gopu
	rgopu@cs.tamu.edu
	Texas A&M University

--
email: rgopu@cs.tamu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sgs1679@usl.edu (Sudhindranath Sira G)
Subject: Re: Abortion and the status of women
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:35:04 GMT

In article <92212.232704RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>-From: dheeraj@cs.umd.edu (Dheeraj Sanghi)
>->
>->However, I would like to point out that there is a confusion here between
>->freedom and respect.  I think women HAVE had respect in Indian society,
>-
>-The same respect that workers got in the communist Soviet Union.
>
>This really does not make much sense.
>Where, pray, is the Indian analogue of the millions killed by Stalin or the
>concentration camps in Siberia?
>
>->Rohit Parikh
>-
>--dheeraj
>

[some material has been deleted]

>Things were different and it makes no sense to judge these things through
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>American eyes which all too many people in this column seem to have
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>somehow acquired.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

Yes, that's very true. I think this attitude stems from the 
"white-man-is-superior-and-we-are-inferior" complex. So any talk
about Indian heritage makes you an "obscurantist" and if you talk 
about Mahatma Gandhi, you are an "idiot" :-( :-(

>Each civilization has its own integrity and its own notions of what is
>a good life, what is justice etc.  There is nothing wrong with the
>present white liberal syndrome - it is a pretty good notion of a
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>civilized existence in its own way.  But it is not the only game in
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, Parikh you are really generous and large-hearted to acknowledge
that _even this_ could be called a civilization...

>town!  There is nothing wrong in being westernised, if that is what
>people want.  But it is crazy for Indians, who come from the land of
>Buddha and Gandhi, to be apologising to the US which has been the only
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>country to use nuclear weapons against humans, decimated the forests of
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Vietnam and killed some 100,000 Iraqui troops (who did not have air cover)
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>in a few days, not to mention the sixty or so Sudanese burned alive
>when their bus was bombed by US warplanes.
>

What I feel is this ---- this "civilization" has killed people
in LARGE NUMBERS every 30 or 40 years, just in order that it can
_survive_. Can anybody call it civilized ? I surely wouldn't.

>Get real!!
>

Yes, I agree. And it's HIGH TIME that SCIers did that.

>Rohit Parikh

Regards,

--Sudhi.

--
                       Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath. 
email : sudhi@usl.edu, sgs@ucs.usl.edu    Address : USL PO Box 41688,
Phone : (318)-232-2198 (r)	                    Lafayette, LA 70504-1688.
	(318)-231-6539 (o)                          USA.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chepan@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Parthasarathy Nambi)
Subject: Re: US National Debt
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:10:07 GMT

 Is the effect of US National debt irrelevant in SCI? The fact is at
 least some of us in the group are US citizens and most of us are
 tax paying citizens - don't we have the right to discuss issues that
 are important to all of us who have called our home. Where is stated
 that issues related to India alone can be discussed in this group?

 Those of us from India who have committed to live in this country
 for rest of our lives should be concerned and discuss, if deemed
 appropriate, an important national concern such as US national
 debt. Trying to shut up people is counter productive and IMHO
 ill-advised.

 I am very sure that other similar groups do discuss issues that
 goes beyond the country of origin. 

 P.Nambi

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From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian-indian,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Family values and the West.
Keywords: Marriage, Family, Industrial, West.
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:07:15 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Distribution: usa
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <1992Jul25.170435.21224@usl.edu> sgs1679@usl.edu (Sudhindranath Sira G) writes:
>Ironically, we find even the West hankering after "family-values"
>these days.  Most technologies current in the West are deleterious for 
>maintaining the family values. 

Actually, I see the opposite.  Communication technology making more
possible the "new extended family."  Toffler himself said that to
prevent "future shock," one needs some sort of stable core, and that's
the role that a family has traditionally provided.

Technology is, however, rapidly making obsolete the ideas of the
"nuclear family" and the "love marriage."
From: banerjee@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: PUTTING YOUR MONEY WHERE YOUR MOUTH IS:  SBI VS "DESHI SERVICE"
Date: 28 Jul 1992 12:49:28 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phad.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul28.131851.25805@sys.uea.ac.uk> rs@sys.uea.ac.uk (CHE Guest News Login) writes:
>I fully agree with you, that whatever money we save for our parents, families ,
>etc., must be sent through a Bank. If people are not interested in SBI due to 
>their inefficiency, then it will be an good option to send through some other
>Foreign bank, like bank of America or citibank, which give Market Value of 
>Dollar or Pound, as compared to 60:40 value in India.
>So that increases your savings and the foreign exchange reserves of India as 
>well.
>Any more people thinking like two of us or any other opinions are welcome.
>

Yes, I agree with you completely. If all of us in our small capacities can
convince friends and room mates to send money through regular channels
and not fall prey to the "halwa" raccquet, we will be doing our bit
to help the country.

My impression is that Citibank and B of A are much more efficient than
SBI, especially here in LA. The SBI people seem to decide the exchange
rate arbitarily based on the amount being remitted.


However, I think that the full convertibility of the rupee will be the best
way to put these people out of business. Already the partial convertibility
that was introduced last year, has had a significant impact in causing several
of these businesses to go under (Ref. Interview with RBI Chairman in 
CitiIndia, May 1992).


>But do you have any idea, what will be the status of these FCNR or NRE account
>once you become resident in India.

I just read that the GOI has altered it's rules so that even after you return
to the country, you can continue to have foreign bank accounts indefinitely
and use them to remit money to your NRE A/c without permission from the RBI.

Samit


>
>Rakesh
From: vganesan@reed.edu (The Phoenix)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Ridiculous Health Insurance Policy [part 2]
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:39:14 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

In article <1992Jul23.002814.4533@ecl.psu.edu> l1z@ecl.psu.edu writes:

>to take some measures to correct wrong doings. 
>
>				    A group of international students
>				    at Pennsylvania State University

	If you have a grouse or a complaint be bold enough
to atleast reveal your names. Mud slinging under the guise
of anonymity never builds credibility. Who are these group
of international students? does your opinion reflect most
of the international students viewpoints? Are you all primarily
from one or two ethnic groups?  if you care to answer all these
questions, then perhaps we can discuss what comes next.

Till then Ciao

peace


The Phoenix

-- 
  The Greatest burden in the world is to have              The Phoenix
   a great potential.                                      Reed #252
                     Linus from "Peanuts"                  Reed College
                                                         Portland, OR-97202
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