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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: Show Us the Enterprise-B and E!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:34:25 GMT

cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:


>There have been a lot of posts speculating about where the next
>movies and seasons of Star Trek and Star Trek: The Next Generation
>will go.  I think that they should show us the newer versions of
>the Enterprise!

>For example, how about Star Trek VII?  Let's have Chekhov get his 
>first command.  Like Sulu's, it would be an Excelsior-Class, the
>Federation's newest ship-of-the-line, and it would be called the
>Enterprise-B!  It's probably not feasible, though...they'd probably
>have to destroy or retire the Enterprise-A first...
	NOT!!  Please...no more Ex-Enterprise bridge crews being
	promoted to Captain....

>And in the 8th, 9th, or 10th season of Star Trek (whenever Patrick
>Stewart leaves), let Picard be promoted to Admiral and assigned com-
>mand of the newest Starfleet flagship, for its shakedown cruise--
>the NCC-1701E, the newest Enterprise!  The only problem I can see
>with this is the one above...

	This is the last season of TNG...unless they re-negotiate the
	contracts for each cast member.  In any case, Richard Arnold
	had stated that some of the cast members may re-new, but
	Stewart is not one of them..as well as Spiner and Dorn.

>Hmmm, maybe this would be better suited for the first NextGen movie,
>set twenty years or so after the original commisionning of the En-
>terprise-D.  It's an interesting idea...


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From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Startrek VII - Takei's comments
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:20:28 GMT

In article <BzAzx2.E1J@world.std.com> buc@world.std.com (Quantum Buc) writes:
>helene@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Helene Blankespoor) writes:
>> Last week, George Takei was interview on British TV and apperently said 
>> about the next film, Startrek VII, that if it was going to be made it would
>> be centred around Captain Sulu and the Excelsior.
>As I reported in a Con report a few weeks back, I saw Mr. Takei at the
>Atlantic City Megacon, and in his talk, he went on incessantly that he felt
>that STVII should include a good deal about Captain Sulu and the Excelsior.


Agreed.  I saw Takei in Denver last March.  He talked a lot about how
he thought the next movie should feature Captain Sulu and asked us
over and over to write to Paramount about it.  Apparently, he does
this everywhere he appears.  I loved Captain Sulu in STVI:TUC, but I
would rather see him in conjunction with the others, if at all, so I
declined to write.  I thought Michael Dorn was the *much* better guest
at that Con ...



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From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: DS9 in VT/NH/Upstate NY
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: default
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:47:05 GMT

From article <warn.724536204@newton>, by warn@newton.uvm.edu (Patrick D Warn):
> I just found out the times for DS9 on WNNE in White River Jct, VT and 
> WPTZ in Burlinton, VT / Plattsburg, NY.  The two hour pilot will be
> shown on January 8th at 8pm. The series starts in its regular time the 
> next week on Thursday January 14th from 8 to 9pm. 

	Good deal!  I was dreading that someone was going to put
it on during ST:TNG on Saturdays.  Heck, now we can still watch
old ST:TNG M-F!

	BTw, anyone know what sattelite/time DS9 will be on?

 TTYL
 Chris

	
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From: dcbii@rob.raleigh.ibm.com (Dave Barnhart)
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:50:00 GMT
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
Followup-To: /dev/null


gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:

>dcbii@rob.raleigh.ibm.com () writes:
>>I have a feeling some of you wouldn't be satisfied unless the show had a
>>minority dominated universe, or some such.
>
>	"minorities" dominate the world.  So what?
>


First of all, it's obvious that you didn't even read my post.  Please notice
that the above states "a minority."  I'm certain that not even you believe
that a single minority dominates the world.  As a matter of fact, we all
share the world.


>>And now that I think of it, that
>>would be similar to the current situation in South Africa.
>
>	Wrong.
>

Think again.  A minority (a single minority as stated above) governs in South
Africa.  That's exactly what I was referring to.

>> Think about that for a minute.
>
>	Please do. It's obvious you haven't.
>
>	Idjit.
>

It's obviously very easy to use a snappy comeback and namecalling in place
of thoughtful discourse.  Looking at your previous post where in disagreement
all you had to say was "Speak for yourself, white boy", it is apparent that
that is your standard technique.  Fine.  Flame away.

Dave Barnhart                    email: 70672.1311@Compuserve.com

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From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Episode Argument
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:47:00 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Dec14.185927.9395@iscsvax.uni.edu>, hodge3726@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> Having an argument.  What was the name of the episode where Riker gets trapped
> in some alien holodeck and is convinced he is trapped by Romulans, latter to
> find out it is some kids playhouse set up by his parents.
> > 
> Matt
> Hodge3726@uni.edu

"Future Imperfect" I think.
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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Re: DEEP SPACE 9 == WHERE?!? == The List
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:46:56 GMT



*sigh* One more to add..Deep Space 9 will air on Omaha on KPTM/FOX 42.
This has been know for over 6 months.  It was in the Omaha World Herald
way back in June of this year.  

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From: linley@netcom.com (Bruce James Robrert Linley)
Subject: Re: Let's get one thing clear.  (Spoilers??)
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, UCLA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:20:30 GMT

In a previous article su@prag.com (Sean D. Ackley) spake...
>Possible spoilers?...
>2 Page breaks for good luck..

>
>

>This message is for those people that think Jelico is a butt head.
>
>Look!! It possibly could be wartime!!!  What would happen if the commander
>of our troops overseas was a pantywaiste?  (They would all be dead!)
>
>Picard is a good captain, but he would definately have to become more rigid
>during wartime.  Since he is usually a captain during peace time there is
>no way to judge what he would be like.

Au contraire, but in the episode where the Enterprise C comes through the time
rift. The Federation is suddenly at war with the Klingons... and Picard seemed
to be doing a fine job as a wartime Captain.


As for the Cardassian (sp?) problem...
"The best diplomat is a fully activated phaser bank." -Lt. Montgomery Scott
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: Galaxy-class Starships
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:31:13 GMT

In <tomcat.724563092@cwis> tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo) writes:
>anewton@bbx.basis.com (Allen J. Newton) writes:
>>    Yes, there are other Galaxy-class starships.  In the episode with
>>    Nagaelum (sp?), the creature in the void (season 1, I think), the
>>    sister ship of the Enterprise, called the Yamato (I believe that is the
>>    correct spelling).

>	And according to the Tech Man...the USS Galaxy and I think 3 other
>	Galaxy class vessels exist.  They have not been named to allow writers
>	to name those vessels in future episodes.

Hence, we're not really sure whether or not they exist, and won't be until we
actually see them on-screen...

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From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Re: Question
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:24:58 GMT

ztesler@nyx.cs.du.edu (Zachariah Tesler) writes:
>
>Question.... is Star Trek: The Next Generation going to stop running next
>year, but remains in syndication for next year or so?? I HOPE NOT!! STTNG
>is the best I've ever seen in my whole fuckin' life1
>


Well, I suppose I can ignore the language...

Yes, production of ST:TNG _may_ stop after one more season, but if you think
syndication of it will only last a year or so, I'd be happy to make a bet on
it with you...   I expect synidcation of TNG to last longer than you or
I live, unless television itself is replaced by something incompatible.

And by the time that happens, the technology may be available to generate
"new" episodes of TOS to fill out the 100 episodes that make syndication
more effective:-}

	Bob 

We didn't have a color set until partway into the first season of TOS:-{
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Subject: THE ENTERPRISE'S TOILETS? READ! RESPOND! LAUGH!
Date: 19 Dec 92 04:33:01 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

What devices are in the Enterprises bathroom?
Warp powered toilets?
The captains logs?
Tampons of the future?
Condoms?
Porno material like at truck stops?
Laser guided flush toilets?
Endless toilet paper?
Towels with a big E on it like a motel?
Phone number if who to have a good time with?
Bad jokes on the wall?

Just wondering!
signed,
stimpi
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Subject: Trivia Questions needed!
From: wcrusher@netlink.cts.com (Wes Welty)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 13:02:20 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

I need trivia questions from STTNG specifically abotu episodes. Please 
email them.. Thanks.


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From: anewton@bbx.basis.com (Allen J. Newton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Galaxy-class Starships
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:46:21 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In Article 21173 cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma) writes:

>	I'm assuming that "flagship of the Federation" simply means it's their 
>biggest, most powerful ship. To the best of my knowledge, there are no other
>Galaxy-class Star Ships. I've never seen then, or heard them mentioned, but...

    Yes, there are other Galaxy-class starships.  In the episode with
    Nagaelum (sp?), the creature in the void (season 1, I think), the
    sister ship of the Enterprise, called the Yamato (I believe that is the
    correct spelling).

    This ship was destroyed in the episode "Contagion" as a result of the
    computer virus infecting the computers which controlled the antimatter
    containment fields, causing the field to collapse.  This was Wesley's
    first encounter with personally witnessing death (he was pretty
    wigged-out about it).  I seem to remember the Captain of the Yamato
    mentioning or alluding to the existence of other Galaxy-class starships
    which had been commissioned.  Anyway....  Does anyone remember the name
    of the episode with Nagaelum?

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From: 00rdharringt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rob Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: A Good Captain
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:47:29 GMT
Organization: Ball State University

In article <cboerm48.724659128@ursa>, cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma) writes:
>>	What where they going to do, say "Well, we don't trust
>>you to captain the ship, just sit where you are and will send
>>someone out to get you."?
> 
> No, but they're certianly not going to say "Hmm, we really don't want
> to hurt Riker's feelings so, even though we don't think he's qualified,
> we'll still let him be in charge of our biggest and best ship." Now, if
> they didn't intend to have him stay in command, they could have said 
> "Well, for now you're [Riker] to be incharge with a temporary field
> promotion to Captian" or something to that effect. (Please no flames 
> about how a commander can command a ship!)

They did give him a *field* promotion.  What that is is a raise in rank
of a lower officer to a rank to which is appropriate for position.  Most 
likely he would have kept the rank but moved off of the Enterprise...  This
happened a lot in tank teams when the Lt. would get killed the ranking 
member would be promoted to Lt. to fill the role.  It's a field promotion
which is binding and extremely unusual outside of combat actions... But to
say that Riker would have kept the Enterprise is silly.  Plain and simple
you don't give a new captain the flagship of the fleet, you start him
out on a cruiser or research vessel then work him up to a Galaxy class...

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From: chittend@ecst.csuchico.edu (Robert R. Chittenden)
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Subject: DS9 in N. Calif.
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:26:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu



I believe that KTXL in Sacramento who carries TNG will carry 
Deep Space Nine.  I don't have a date or time.


For those of you who believe KBHK in San Francisco is a FOX
affiliate that is incorrect, KBHK is an independant station.
From: hodge3726@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Episode Argument
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:59:27 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Having an argument.  What was the name of the episode where Riker gets trapped
in some alien holodeck and is convinced he is trapped by Romulans, latter to
find out it is some kids playhouse set up by his parents.



Matt
Hodge3726@uni.edu
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From: gkatz@csws11.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz)
Subject: Re: Ah HA! (Or why do federation phasers always hit their target)
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:03:52 GMT

In article <ericw.724358472@hobbes> ericw@hobbes.amd.com (Eric Wedaa) writes:

>Federation Hand Phasers come equiped with RADAR Lock, ECM, and a gyroscopic
>interface to track the target as the target and/or Riker are moving!!!
>
>>>>>Ericw


Then why is Worf always missing his target? :-)

gkatz
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From: helene@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Helene Blankespoor)
Subject: Startrek VII - Takei's comments
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:39:02 GMT

Last week, George Takei was interview on British TV and apperently said 
about the next film, Startrek VII, that if it was going to be made it would
be centred around Captain Sulu and the Excelsior.
I did not see the interview myself but has anyone else heard anything about
this ??

Helene.
From: Sean D. Ackley <su@prag.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Let's get one thing clear.  (Spoilers??)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:44:56 PST
Reply-To: su@prag.com (Sean D. Ackley)
Distribution: world
Organization: PRA Group International (510-732-9895)


Possible spoilers?...
2 Page breaks for good luck..





This message is for those people that think Jelico is a butt head.

Look!! It possibly could be wartime!!!  What would happen if the commander
of our troops overseas was a pantywaiste?  (They would all be dead!)

Picard is a good captain, but he would definately have to become more rigid
during wartime.  Since he is usually a captain during peace time there is
no way to judge what he would be like.

flame off--

(I in no way am saying that Jelico couldn't lighten up, but he does have a
 good point when he says he doesn't have "time" to wait around."


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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: Troi is capable of wearing a uniform (SPOILERS)
Originator: smintz@sedona
Reply-To: arentzis@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:20:10 GMT


This is certainly not Cannon; perhaps Troi wears a fatuges, or some other, non
duty uniform....and the New captain, wanted her in her standard, or duty
uniform..
Stephen
In article <BzDKHy.3F3@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:
> Brad Barton writes
> > Because the first step in emotional healing is admitting it to 
> > yourself.[...]
> 
> Then why can't she ask questions centered around what she knows via  
> reading her patients?  And if she can do that, or in fact does do that,  
> how does that conclude in that she shouldn't wear a starfleet uniform?
> 
> However, this is getting away from the theme of this thread: Troi's  
> uniform and it's place in her job.  To which I'd like to add that I  
> still think it's a bad idea for her not to be in uniform because I  
> don't think that the counselor's sexuality is in any way something  
> worth promoting in counsel.
> 
> Also, were she to be counseling a patient who has problems with their  
> sex life, that could be a very bad situation should she continue to  
> dress provocatively.  Simply put, it's not her job to titillate the  
> patients.
> 
> Lastly, I believe it speaks badly for her character.  By wearing her  
> non-uniform attire, I get the feeling the producers (or whomever is  
> responsible for her wearing what she usually does) are saying that the  
> only way someone can communicate with her professionally is if she is  
> not dressed as every other woman on the ship is, or if she is not fully  
> dressed.
> -- 
> -- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
> -- NeXTmail welcome
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From: wchen@beirut.berkeley.edu (William Chen)
Subject: Re: Re: RE:Starfleet is Communist
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:08:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.114024.6889@gw.wmich.edu> x91anderso33@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>I just read where one guy thought that all CO's are called "Captain" and all
>Execs are called "Commander" and another guy told him he was wrong, that people
>are ALWAYS called by their correct rank.
>In ST:TMP the first thing that I noticed (besides Scotty's gray hair and beer
>belly) was that everyone called Kirk "Captain" as soon as he took over the
>Enterprise. It was probably just out of habit, though, and I'm sure that when
>other Admirals take command of ships thay're called "Admiral."
>BTW, I still the guy who designed ST:TMP costumes should be put to sleep!
>
> -- Karl Anderson, Western Michigan University
>

When Data was given command of a ship in the Klingon Civil War, he 
was addressed as "Captain."

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From: gkatz@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz)
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E  II
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:51:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.225700.499@fsl.noaa.gov> jkl@fsl.noaa.gov (Jennifer Longstaff) writes:
>
>I know there have also been plenty of men shown as idiots on the show,

Like Barclay.
Like Lt. Kazinksy (the guy who thought he was responsible for bringing
			the Enterprise to another galaxy, not the Traveler)
Like that guy Kirk kept teasing in "Trouble With Tribbles"
Worf :-)

>I'm trying to remember when a woman was portrayed as *REALLY SMART* or
>competent or a good female role model.  Can anyone help me with this?
>
>And, don't get me wrong.  I'm really not trying to flame about sexism
>or ageism.  I'm just trying to find some good examples of women as 
>competent role models, and so far I can't remember any having emerged.
>I'm just curious about this, not trying to start anything.

Okay, how about:

Doctor Crusher, Lt. Uhura, Guinan, Tasha Yar,
Doctor Pulaski, Gillian Taylor, Worf's mate (sorry I forgot her name)
Troi on a good day (I admit it's rare.)
President of Starfleet Acadamey when Wesley screwed up,
The Captain of Enterprise-C, Saavik, Amanda,
the list goes on....

>
>- Jennifer
>  jkl@md.fsl.noaa.gov
>
>

I bet you just loved "Angel One".

gkatz
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From: "paul tucker" <paul.tucker@canrem.com>
Subject: chain of command...?
Reply-To: "paul tucker" <paul.tucker@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 13 Dec 92 01:43:45 EST

Bernie,
  No sense bothering the net with this: It's CoC.

Paul
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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: Re: STVI Continuity error ?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:43:05 GMT

In <921216.151352@ia.ph.bham.ac.uk> HR-5@ia.ph.bham.ac.uk (Connor MacLeod (of the Clan MacLeod)) writes:

>I'm sure somebody must have already mentioned this, but in Star Trek VI,
>the cloaked bird of prey is defeated by a gas-seeking torpedo - Lt Uhuru
>having suggested the use of 'the equipment we're carrying to chart
>gaseous planetary anomolies' - How is it, then, that at the beginning
>of the film, it is the Excelsior which is carrying this equipment, not
>the Enterprise - in fact, the Enterprise is in space dock when Kirk et
>al. first set off - thus (presumably) it has not got this equipment on
>board ??

Since the Enterprise (and I presume the Excelior is too) is an exploration
vessel, it seems only reasonable that it would also have such equipment on
board. I doubt that Star Fleet would make such equipment limited to only
one starship.

Alan Bick