From: jasonp@tiger1.prime.com (Jason Pascucci)
Subject: Re: Lost in the Dark.....
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:37:07 GMT

*deep breath*

In article <1992Sep29.194357.7184@iscsvax.uni.edu>, dunsmore7043@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> Hello all,
> 
>      I have read this newsgroup for several months and have decided that
> everyone is right.  Everyone on here seems to belive in some form of magick,

Equally, everything posted here is wrong (false). (Even this.) However, this is
fairly simplistic, and has been hashed over enough. 

> me included. I'd tell you my beliefs, but I don't have the time, nor do I want
> to bore you with ideas that sound like they are out of fiction. But to
> understand the meat of my post I do have to exlain part of my belief.

Everybody is entitled to their beliefs, however a person's ability to
realize where they came from, and be aware of their error factor
is (I believe) fairly important. 

>     I am 22. I am not old nor wise by most standards, including my own, but I
> can not help but feel wiser and older than most around me. Even those that are
> suposed to be Philosophers and Learned. I believe in magick. I feel it out

Then this is simply arrogance, perhaps from Ego, perhaps from ignorance. There 
is always someone 'older' and 'wiser' than you are, even around you. A wise 
man can learn much from a fool...the opposite isn't the case.

> there, in the multiverse, but I have never seen it to my knowledge. The actions

Hum. Okay...it's okay to believe in magick, but, again, you may
wish to examine your beliefs in light of your stated fact that you have
never seen what you would describe as magick. 

> of people around me are natural. The life on this planet is natural. All I have
> seen and experienced is natural. The creation of everything is another story
> too long to discuss here. 

Very nice...what's the point?

>     My beliefs have pushed me to the edge of society and led me to my disrespect
> and disbelief in it. I rarly keep a job for longer than a month, becuse I don't

Your beliefs have pushed you? Perhaps you may wish to reevaluate that in
more revelant terms...i.e. Did *you* push you to the edge of society,
or did *society* push you to it's edge. Either way, you imply
you don't feel you should be here...the only suggestion is to reevaluate
what got you there, and correct it. Perhaps the maxim 'Nobody ever
said Life was Fair' applies. Also, 'Silence is eternal' might be adequate.

> feel comfortable with my suroundings. Maybe it's lack of willpower and maybe

Because you don't feel comfortable with your surroundings, or because
your boss/co-workers, etc, are idiots/assholes/ignorant,etc. If
so, (and you imply this is true, from your above statements) I believe
the term 'attitude adjustment' applies. 

> it's something else.  I would like to get away, but I have to fight Society to
> get anywhere(ie. I have no money).

Get away to where? Get away to a free ride, that you don't have to work
to live? (Bzz. Sorry, you lose.) Any human is easily adaptable to his
situation, only ignorance gets in his way. (read:You can always get *somewhere*)

Or, do you need to Get away from yourself? If so, perhaps you can
join a 12-step program...

>     This is where you good people could come in. Could you give me some advice

Oh, good. 

> on where to go and who to see? Is there anywhere I can go and find a `mentor'

Yes. Go to McDonalds. See the Manager. Ask for a job, and be polite. 
Work 60 completely-mindless-hour weeks, and get a very small studio
apartment within walking distance of the store. In your
off hours, go to the library, and read (And understand) I.Kant,
Plato, Nitzche, T.Aquinas, A.Crowley, and whatever else strikes
your fancy. 

> or just to get away from EVERYTHING? 

Forever? You know the formula for that, and may your Karma be better
next time around. Or,join a monastic organization, I'm sure there is 
one somewhere in your area. If you *really* understand, as you claim 
to, above, you will see that any religion will do, so that doesn't 
matter. However, if you can't deal with the rigors of normal
life, I doubt seriously this will help. 

>         I thank anyone that responds in advance.
>                                         JD the Lost.

Definately lost. Left field. Heck, out of the ballpark. Next stadium over. 

-- 
Jason R. Pascucci
jasonp@primerd.prime.com

A great student of Zen travelled by road. 
He walked from one city to another, and finally met the Budda,
who said 'Oy, Mate. Din' I see ya' at a bus stop back in Melbourne?'
The student, geographically inclined, was enlightened.
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