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From: glc39@booth.usask.ca (Glenn Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Kozlov (was WJHC: Scoring Stats)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 11:49:20 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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>From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson)
>Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:47:51 GMT

> All Point Scorers for each Team:
> ================================
>
> RUSSIA
> ------              Goals   Assists  Points
>
> Igor Alexandrov	3	4	7
>	:
> Victor Kozlov		1	0	1

Kozlov's only point in Russia's seven games came during the 16-0 win over
Japan on Dec. 26.  However, he supposedly had an excellent game
against Finland on Jan. 1 after teaming with Alexei Yashin.  Kozlov is
expected to be taken first or second overall in the 1993 NHL entry
draft.  Dave Hodge, now host of a talk show on TSN, predicted that the
Senators will take Kozlov over Alexandre Daigle to keep fellow Russian Yashin
company.  Another thing to bear in mind is that John Ferguson may have a bias
toward big strong players because of his own style when he played.  Kozlov is
about 40 pounds heavier than Daigle.  Hmm...do we have another case of Doug
Wickenheiser and Denis Savard brewing? :-)

With the new agreement between the NHL and the Russian hockey
federation, does the team that draft Kozlov have to wait until the 1997-98
season to get his services?  I think masochistic(:-) Ottawa fans can wait until
1997 for a potential superstar.  Can Bay Area, Anaheim, or Miami fans wait that
long?  It's conceivable that if Ottawa takes Daigle, San Jose will draft Kozlov
and trade his rights for immediate help.  Personally, I feel the
Senators will take Daigle because of his marketing potential in the
largely bilingual city of Ottawa (unless the Nordiques do something
foolish).

Glenn
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From: jwodzia@dino.uucp (john wodziak)
Subject: Re: Don Cherry's Coach's Corner summary - Jan. 2
Reply-To: jwodzia@dino.eng.clemson.edu (john wodziak)
Organization: Clemson University Engineering Department
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:55:59 GMT

In article allan@cs.UAlberta.CA (Allan Sullivan) writes:
>Here's a summary of Don Cherry's coach's corner from January 4, 1993
>from a Calgary game at the Saddledome.
>
>Next, they discussed the trade where the Rangers sent King and Domi
>to the Jets in exchange for Olczyk. Don thought that it was a good
>trade for Winnipeg... Both can play hockey, King is a character
>player, and Ranger fans will be disappointed to see them go.

I feel that its a pretty good trade for both teams. K. King was aquired
by the #%^# Rangers when they needed a "Character Player" now WIN needs one.
The #@%#$% Rangers need more than Eddie O. but from what I saw of him
it is a step in the right direction.
>
>Don pointed to the number of fans at the Winnipeg game following
>the trade... Many fans, the team won, etc. He questioned Winnipeg
>management, whether this lesson was sinking in, and asked why
>they were stacking their team with Russians. Don also predicted
>that Domi would become the most popular Jet player ever.

That's not very hard to believe considering that Tie "I'm a Dumi" Domi
was the 2nd most popular player on the current $#@% Ranger squad after
Mark Messier. That's some good company for any player to be in especially
considering that the %^#$%^#^ Rangers have the #7 all time goal scorer
on their roster (Mike Gartner*). 

"Sorry about this but its soapbox time"
*Mike Gartner is THE most underrated unrespected player of all time.
*Just think of the company that he has and will pass this season.
*do YOU realize that he has scored/will score as many goals as 
*Guy "The Flower" LaFleur? Think about that before flaming me.
"I'm off the soapbox for now....but the %^%$^$% Rangers still suck"

>
In Hockey Hell...............jwodzia@eng.clemson.edu............John R. Wodziak
The #%&^*$%&$ Rangers Suck!!||MS MechEng||#include<disclamer.h>
1940 >> /dev/null           ||Clemson U ||"For the want of one condom one man's
Bruins for Lord Stanley, 93 ||NumMethods|| whole life was ruined" - Al Bundy
From: joe13+@pitt.edu (Joseph B Stiehm)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Stars Beat Pens
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:28:58 GMT
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Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1iktnqINNbkh@ub.d.umn.edu> bwalhof@ub.d.umn.edu (Barry) writes:
>
>
>The North Stars beat the Pens last night 6-3 in Pitt.

>It was nice to see Pitt lose at home!  50% of their loses at home are from
>Norris Division teams.

Let's see Barry. 3 losses at home. 50% of three is 1.5.
So is that 1 or 2 home losses to Norris Division teams?

Impressive Stat!?


>Barry


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From: peter@mars.dgrc.doc.ca (Peter Corrigan)
Subject: Re: Sakic and Sundin injury status??
Reply-To: peter@mars.dgrc.doc.ca
Organization: Communication Research Centre
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:34:20 GMT

Sakic is gone for 3 weeks and Sundin for 10 days, Steve Duschesne is listed 
as day to day, The Nordiques played the Bruins last night and despite not
having their 3 top point getters managed a 3 2 win in overtime. Hextall stopped 
44 shots and earned 1st star 
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Communications research center
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From: david@eng.umd.edu (David Chi-Chung Lu)
Subject: Caps goalie status
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 04:55:05 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Summary: Beaupre down, Kolzig up

Caps goalie Don Beaupre pulled that groin muscle again and is out for
at least a week.  Jim Hrivnak will get all of the starts until Beaupre
gets back.  Olie "the Goalie" Kolzig was called up from Rochester.  He
was being loaned to the Americans from Baltimore.  I think Bryan Dafoe
(#3 goalie) is injured and Duane Derksen (#4 goalie) is not doing too
hot, and so Kolzig got the call.  He had just beaten Baltimore this
week, 4-1, while playing for Rochester.

Dave Lu
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From: kim@guppy.uucp (Isaac Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: BARRY MELROSE SHOULD BE AXED
Date: 12 Jan 1993 01:29:12 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
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In article <BDB8wB4w165w@netlink.cts.com> jmarold@netlink.cts.com (Jeff Marold) writes:
>epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard) writes:
>> What did you think of Melrose when the Kings had their fabulous (and
>> surprising) start?  If anyone had told LA that they would be 5 (4?)
>During the "Fabulous (and surprising) start " BM was quoted as saying he 
>didnt care that the team was giving up so many shots and so many goals - 
>"as long as they were winning". Well, no they're giving up MORE goals and 
>MORE shots and NOT winning. Mike Murphy might as well be coaching.
>
>As far as goaltending goals, "ye reap what ye shall sow" - count the 
>number of times a Kings defenseman stands up an offensive player at the 
>blue line.

Big, mobile defenseman are required to stand up onrushing players at the
blue line.  The Kings have one - Rob Blake.  The other are either fast
but too small (Coffey, Zhitnik, Sydor) or big but too slow (McSorely,
Thompson), or small and slow (Huddy).

Defensive personnel and lack of consistent backchecking by the forwards
are the reasons the Kings have been slumping.

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Isaac (kim@bull.ucsd.edu)
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From: king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry King)
Subject: Re: Time for B's to get rid of Moog?
Organization: GTE/SCSD
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:36:50 GMT

Benjamin L. Peal (bp14+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: 
: I highly doubt that Lemelin will be sent down to Providence (as
: a player) since he's already been guaranteed a position as goalie
: coach/trainer for the Bruins.  He was supposed to have started
: that job this year, but had to be backup goalie since the Bruins
: were unable to acquire a quality backup goalie.
: 

	You were right, Lemelin will not go to Providence, he will go to
unemployment.  Lemelin, as far as I know, does not have a coach job
locked up either.  His contract in the 91-92 season stated playing and
coaching for his job.  This years contract has no mention of a coaching
position if he were not to play.  I am guessing he cleared waivers at
12:00 today but he stated that he would not play in the "expletive"
minors.  

	Blue looked fairly solid in last nights game though the goal by
Nolan was questionable.  I think that Bales will go back to Providence
with Blue and Moog alternating days.  We shall see...

Larry

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From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Who's in goal for the Bruins? Who.
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:00:57 GMT
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Organization: HMS

I don't want to start the famous "Who's On First" routine
but here's the up-to-date very bizzare goalie situation with the Bruins :

If Reggie Lemelin clears the waivers this afternoon he'll start for
the Providence Bruins tonight(Friday) versus St. John's. Lemelin can
be had for $3,700 and his contract is said to be $277,000 a year.

If Reggie doesn't get claimed,his back-up in Providence will be Mike Bales
who is expected to be sent down after backing up John Blue in the 3-2 OT loss to
Nords last night.

Blue will stick around with the Bruins for a while. Blue and Moog are
expected to alternate in goal starting with tomorrow's game vs. the Devils
at the Garden.

If Reggie gets claimed,Blue will make a trip to Providence tonight and
share the duties with Bales. Blue then will come back up to Boston
for tomorrow's Devils game. Providence plays again at home on Sunday vs.
Adirondack.  But I wouldn't expect them to send down Blue again. They'd
probably opt to bring up Mike Parsons(on loan to Baltimore(AHL)),
Mat DelGuidice(on loan to San Diego(IHL) or Scott Bailey(Johnstown(ECHL))
up to Providence.

So out of all this : Blue and Moog are the Bruins's new goalie tandem for
now.

-PPV Mark
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From: kwh@CS.CMU.EDU (Kevin Hartmann)
Subject: Re: Penguins Jersey.....help?!
Originator: kwh@GLOBE.EDRC.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:51:30 GMT


Robert Stear writes:

		...

   So, to summarize, what I am looking for:

   Authentic Penguins jersey with the old logo of the skating penguin
   with the hockey stick. This would be an authentic, not one of the
   cheesey replicas. Size must be at least XL (52).

   Any leads appreciated.
		
		...





If Rupp's doesn't have it, no store does.   They aren't open 
right now, or I would call for you.

Here's the number:

	RUPP'S Inc.
	Cochran Rd.

	(412) 343-9800

If it's long distance for you, send mail to me and I'll call them.


Kevin

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From: IYI4DTN@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Gann Matsuda)
Subject: Re: L.A. Kings Ticket Info. Needed
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:46:08 PST

In article <1993Jan11.082803@cobra.calgary.chevron.com>, on 11 Jan 93 15:28:03 GMT,
vstem@cobra.calgary.chevron.com (D. Stewart McLeod) writes:

>
>I am posting this for my brother. His family is going to Disney Land in
>mid-February and is interested in attending a Kings game (he knows they
>are in town one day).
>
>Now his question(s). What are the ticket prices? What is the availablity
>and is there a number he can phone to arrange for tickets? He is staying
>near DIsney Land, and what would be taxi ride fare to the game? Would it
>be better for him to rent a car for this day?
>
>Please respond to: vstem@calgary.chevron.com
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>--
>D. Stew McLeod                  Internet: vstem@calgary.chevron.com

I don't know much about taxi fares, but your brother might just be able
to get tickets for the Kings February home games.  The least expensive
tickets go for $11.00.  After that, the seats go to $20.00, $28.00 and
higher.  Since the Kings did not sell all the season seats that they
wanted to, there are some of the more expensive seats available, but
not many.

The best thing to do is to call TicketMaster at (714) 740-2000.  That's
an Orange County number (where Disneyland is).  However, they may be
sold out for some or all of those games.  The absolute BEST way to get
tickets is to make a trip to the Forum Box Office.  They have access to
all tickets, not just a block of seats like TicketMaster.

The Kings schedule for February includes five home games:

Tuesday, 2/9 - Edmonton Oilers
Thursday, 2/11 - Detroit Red Wings
Saturday, 2/13 - Washington Capitals
Monday, 2/15 - Vancouver Canucks
Saturday, 2/27 - Toronto Maple Leafs

Good luck!

Gann Matsuda
INTERNET: iyi4dtn@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
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From: scairns@is.morgan.com (Scott Cairns)
Subject: Re: puck in wrong net?
Reply-To: scairns@fsg.com
Organization: Fusion Systems Group, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:29:45 GMT

In article <cfHMPbm00WBK81NWMi@andrew.cmu.edu>, Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> 
|> I've seen old film clips of football players picking up fumbles and
|> running the wrong way with the ball.  I know that in hockey players
|> occasionally put the puck in their own net but it's always been a
|> "quick" mistake around the goal mouth.  I was wondering if any player
|> has actually skated in on his own goaltender and scored.  Has anyone
|> ever seen this happen?
|> 
|> Mom.

Not sure if this counts since it wasn't pro hockey but
years ago I used to referee pee-wee hockey games (4 & 5
year olds) outside of Buffalo, NY.

In this one game, this kid got himself turned around
somehow at center ice and thinking he had a breakaway
skated in on his own goal and scored as his teammates
on the bench and on the ice were screaming at him to
stop. 

He was quite happy with himself until he realized 
what he had done and then he started crying hysterically.

I felt really bad for the little bugger but it was one
of the funniest things I've ever seen.

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From: hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: WJHC/Finns etc.
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:00:30 GMT

The WJHC games are over and Finland was finally crashed to
the 5th place... After a nice beginning this was a very big
disappointment!

Maybe the team couldn't stand the pressure: Always when there
was something in front of our eyes the team failed totally:
"Silver game" against Sweden, "bronze game" against the US team etc.

There were big problems in playing pp or sh: If I remember it right
the first five Swedish goals against us were such special events...
And the first two goals the US team scored yesterday.
Actually our team produced quite a much scoring opportunities, but
failed to get the goals... An old phrase about our teams.
If look at shots on goal stats we can see that e.g. against the US
team the figures were 41-24 in favour of the Finns, but we lost the
game 5-3. When we lost to Canada (3-2) the shots on goal in 3rd period
were something like 24-12, but we couldn't produce the equalizer.
Also against the Russians the shots were for us (32-20??), but as you
know the result was a draw 1-1. Surprise: we scored a sh goal!!!

But surely there are some future stars on the Finnish team, too!
I think that quite a few of them are drafted yet... Jere Lehtinen is
often mentioned as the next forward in class of Kurri or Selanne.
Saku Koivu is a very skillful player, but small in size (174cm=5'7?).
So maybe he don't meet any interest in the NHL??
Actually most of the forwards on the team were not so tall. Maybe the
average is about 6 feet or even less! E.g. Sahlstedt is only 5'6!!
Ville Peltonen (6'1) and Jonne Vauhkonen (6'2) are among the tallest.
Figures for Jere Lehtinen are 181cm and 82kg. So he is about 6' tall.
According to the Finnish newspapers our best defender in the WJHC
was Janne Gronvall from Tappara Tampere. His figures are 190cm and 88 kg.

Some days ago I was listing or tried to list all Tampere players on
the our team in the WJHC. I missed Jani Nikko. So, there were totally
three defenders on the team from Ilves (Tampere): Nikko, Jarkko Glad
and Jukka Ollila. You can see that Jyrki Lumme, Ville Siren, Risto
Siltanen etc. are going to have some successors...

So, finally what was the power of Canada? Last year when Eric Lindros
was in the team the success was very poor! Perhaps they learn something...
Maybe they all totally played for the team? Perhaps the Swedes were more
'brilliant', but surely the Canadiens had great defensive play and they
used the scoring opportunities very efficiently. Just like usually in
the NHL.

/Hannu

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From: bp14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Benjamin L. Peal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Time for B's to get rid of Moog?
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:41:28 GMT
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	<1993Jan7.141557.28938@europa.asd.contel.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>There is a chance though that if Blue plays well, he and Moog 
>will alternate in goal with Lemelin going down to Providence. 

I highly doubt that Lemelin will be sent down to Providence (as
a player) since he's already been guaranteed a position as goalie
coach/trainer for the Bruins.  He was supposed to have started
that job this year, but had to be backup goalie since the Bruins
were unable to acquire a quality backup goalie.

I do like the move, though.  Moog probably needed a wakeup
call.  It's also a wakeup call for the entire team in that two 30+
year old veterans won't be dressing.  Also, it's a good opportunity
for Blue and Bales to get some NHL experience and to see how
well they can handle NHL games.


- Ben Peal
  blep+@cmu.edu
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From: rdelmund@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Rob Del Mundo)
Subject: Re: Alex = scoring machine
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:42:53 GMT

In article <C0Bypw.EEK@acsu.buffalo.edu> v057p7nk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Andrew W Korbut) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.071327.22008@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes...
>> 
>>Actually it is 36 goals in 32 games (he has missed six games) and I think
>>38 goals in 33 games after tonight...since I think he got two more on
>>Sunday...
>> 
>>....does anyone know if games missed through injury count in the fastest
>>fifty goals record...if they don't he has a shot at Gretzky's 50 goals
>>in 39? games.
>
>Dunno, I vaguely remember a minor ruckus last year when it appeared that
>LaFontaine had a chance to do it despite missing a bunch of games at the
>start of the season.  I don't think anything was resolved then, either.
>But the only pertinent record in the NHL Guide is titled "Most Goals, 50
>Games From Start Of Season".  Even that is ambiguous, but I think it means
>the first 50 games that the TEAM plays, not the individual.  The marks of
>the record holders seem to imply this (everyone except Richard hit 50 games
>in late January).
>
>Players to hit 50 in 50:
>
>Gretzky (3 times - 61 was his max), Lemieux (54), Hull (twice - 52), Bossy (50)
>
>I believe 2 other players hit 50 in THEIR first 50 games, but I don't really
>remember who or when.
>

That would be the Rocket and Jari Kurri.

I can't remember which season it was, but Kurri scored 50 goals in his first
50 games played as a member of the dynasty Oilers.  However it doesn't count
as an official 50 in 50 because the Oilers as a team had played 53(?) games.

 
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: TB goalies (was Re: Lightning dethrone...)
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:44:04 GMT

kim@guppy.uucp (Isaac Kim) wrote:
>Bergeron seemed to go down early an awful lot.  (Tom, is this his normal
>style of play?)  Tampa did play a great team defensive game.
>I think the Kings would be better off not switching goalies, but
>switching team defense philosophies.      

I can't help you out much here. I've only seen him play a few times and I don't
pay attention to that sort of thing unless Roy is playing and the announcers
talk about it until the end of the earth (not TB's announcers, announcers in
general). Well, it works for Roy so it's not bad ploy. If you don't know what
to do, block the low corners. That's where most goals are scored.

Anyway, back to Bergeron. He has been absolutely superb even in his losses.
Since Crisp is eliminating a goalie at the end of the road trip, I think
Bergeron will be the starter. Jablonski has played above average and will
probably stay up with the team. That leaves out Young. He has been up and
down. Most people thought he'd play well since he played on the Cup winning
Penguins, but I think he rode the bench most of the time there and has been
riding his credentials most of the time in TB. The Boston announcers bashed him
continually because he would stop a routine shot but leave a rebound out in
the slot rather than hold the puck or put it in the corner. I don't know
whether he will go down to Atlanta or be traded (I'm assuming he's the odd
guy out). He got in Crisp's dog house when he didn't start a game he was
supposed to and complained (Crisp has been playing the hot goalie all season).
I imagine he will demand a trade rather than go to Atlanta. I think the other
two goalies would swallow their pride and go down. Since TB is hosting St.
Louis on 1/16, I imagine Jablonski will be in goal. He has played them every
game so far.

So around 1/14-1/17, look for some TB transaction involving a goalie. If Young
is traded and a goalie gets hurt or the team does a serious dive, then Rheaume
will definitely see some ice in Atlanta. Each goalie will probably get one more
shot in goal since there are 3 games left on the road.

Tom
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From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Re: Tocchet-Jagr fisticuffs
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:00:34 GMT

In article <0fIPeFq00iUy03b1h7@andrew.cmu.edu> "Thomas J. Joyce" <tj06+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>These stories sound like a derivative of "Jagr sez this, Jagr sez that".

Latest Jagr/Tocchet story deleted.

>You have to ask the question: "By the time stuff like this gets to us,
>how truthful is it?" Granted, the usual rsh reader likes hockey and
>may feel close to the game. But do any of us work for the clubs themselves?
>Even if somewhere were to, do you think they'd let negative stuff out
>like this?

No, that's why rumors start. :-)  But the gist of this is that too many rumors
are circulating about Jagr's ego and bad attitude for it just to be idle 
gossip.  Some things are true, such as Jagr being reprimanded for telling
out of town reporters that they must pay him for interviews.  This was reported
in THN and in the local news.  Although the local news reported it as a 
"misunderstanding".  The local media had also reported that Jagr is unhappy
with his contract situation with the Pens, and angry that Patrick spent so
much time working out deals with Barrasso and Lemieux, yet was unreceptive to
his demands.

For whatever reason(s), Jagr seems to have a chip on his shoulder.  Hopefully 
he'll take it off himself.  Or someone will come along and not only knock off
the chip, but dislocate the shoulder as well.

Lori
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