HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Cars and Other Fun Stuff (wasRe: Turning 30!!)
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:47:57 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.

In article <16354@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.220838.4665@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:
>|
>|Can't we all just get along??!
>|
>
>If this means agreeing with everything posted here, no.

...and as we all know, this group *must* be rife with opinions. >>> :^)  <<<
                                                                    ^^^

        
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From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Chicks 'n Dudes '93 - "The List"
Date: 8 Jan 93 09:26:15 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <1993Jan8.075421.11223@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.192525.17926@netcom.com> shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
>>I think it would be amusing to have folks do their own, if they like.
>>Marvin provided tags and pens at the Boink at John Dough's, as I recall,
>>and those who wished to wear a tag were welcome to do so.  I met an
>>interesting lurker via his tag, which read "Johnny".

>  I think about half the people did and half didn't. Personally, I dislike
>nametags and won't wear one...

I usually wear mine upside-down.  Non-conformist to the hilt, you see... :)
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab)
Subject: Re: Chicks 'n Dudes '93 - "The List"
Organization: user of Netcom Public Access Unix, SF Bay Area
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:54:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.192525.17926@netcom.com> shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
>I think it would be amusing to have folks do their own, if they like.
>Marvin provided tags and pens at the Boink at John Dough's, as I recall,
>and those who wished to wear a tag were welcome to do so.  I met an
>interesting lurker via his tag, which read "Johnny".


  I think about half the people did and half didn't. Personally, I dislike
nametags and won't wear one...


               -marvin



-- 
Marvin Raab                                  
marv@netcom.com                              Mountain View, CA 94040
apple.com!netcom.com!marv                    415-961-6501 (h)
Newsgroups: ba.singles,soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,alt.abortion.inequity
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Re: Walk away, run away, was Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:55:08 GMT


I had thought that this entire thread had died, but

In article K7q@ddsw1.mcs.com, karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
>In fact, at the time when these "paternity" laws were drafted, it was indeed
>the law that women consented to raising children when they had sex -- because
>abortion was at that time illegal in many states.
>
>Look at Michigan as an example.  I believe that paternity support law was
>passed in 1959 (close enough).  RvW didn't come about until a decade later.
>
>Thus, the feminists changed the rules mid-stream TO EXCUSE THEMSELVES FROM
>THE RESPONSIBILITY that came with their choice.  Of course, they conveniently
>forgot to change the law on paternity so that the legal options and
>requirements of both sexes matched the physical options.  Then, in the '70s
>and '80s, they went after men with a vengence for "the good of the child".


Karl, are you trying to suggest that in 1959, that the majority of the Michigan
legislature consisted of either women or feminists?  

>
>Is this a surprise?  No.  Is it surprising that feminists now refuse to
>grant men the same financial freedom that they obtained by changing the
>rules mid-stream?  No, but it does tell all men just what they're up
>against, and what tactics are going to have any chance of success.


I may have a biased viewpoint, but the legislatures of all 50 states, and
the Congress of the US has been populated by an overwhelming majority of men,
mostly white, not many of whom can be described as feminist. 

A claim that an mostly unrepresented minority group somehow changed the rules 
to take advantage of the overwhelming majority seems somehow far-fetched, 
paranoid, and laughable.  Claiming that this minority didn't change them back
the way the majority wants is pathetic.

A simpler explaination is that the men in the legislature felt that the fathers
of the children should support them.  Certainly this doesn't require a 
feminist conspiricy.


---
Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: mtm@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU (Mike Macgirvin)
Subject: Re: HappyHappyHappy! JoyJoyJoy!
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:37:57 GMT

Jawara@Applelink.Apple.COM (Ron Drake) writes:

>Too serious. All this flamage. All this enmity. Adam retiring from the
>stage with a Gettysburg Address-like post. Desiree telling Ed to "be
>fruitful and multiply" in the Woody Allen sense. Oleg hurling smelt
>from the loft. Pre-sex contracts. Post-nasal drip. PMS. Rueing thirty
>instead of considering the alternative.

>I've been guilty of this behavior myself. I'm also guilty of turning
>over a new leaf. I side with the two Personal Ads and the woman who
>said she's been happy since the new year started. The sun is shining,
>I love somebody VERY much and I'm going skating!

>And, as he bladed into the slough turn at Shoreline, this bright
>little ditty faded with him into the distance: always look on the
>bright side of life...

	... a figure emerges from the shadows, where he's been sitting
quietly, observing...

	I've been watching this group for quite some time from an
"amateur cultural anthropologist" perspective. It's really quite
amusing. Remember, "ba.singles" reduces to "bs"...
	Anyway, I wouldn't recommend this group to anybody who has in
interest in -not- being single. I've been subjected to endless debate
about the differences between men and women and after you read this
for a few weeks, you understand why all these folks are still single.
Perhaps there should be a split; like "ba.singles.temporary" and
"ba.singles.hopelessly-terminal".
	Oh, but you might get some insight on where to meet these
people. I read all the suggestions and mark those off my list of
places I'd ever want to go... ;-).
	Want to meet women? Lot's of 'em? JJ's? Printer's Inc.? The
next Boink? Forget it. Frustration city. 
	Go to Nordstrom's. And remember to use the most successful
"line" known to the human race, "Hi!". Oh, and don't lurk in the
lingerie department. That doesn't work.

	...and he slips back into the shadows.
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Date: 6 Jan 93 05:30:11 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <1993Jan6.030927.10207@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>In article <1993Jan6.025244.1412@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan6.023014.4181@netcom.com> barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:
>>>>>Des, is to not degenerate into snide, nasty, ad hominium attacks but still
>>>>                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>					Whuzzat mean?
>>>
>>>	It's an ad hominem attack with aluminum siding installed by a
>>>Brit.
>>
>><slapping forehead>  And here I thought it was something southern
>>people ate for breakfast.

So my spellchecker's broken.  Sue me.  :)
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: Perfect Match (was-Re: If he bothers you...)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:50:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.034958.531@netcom.com> desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.031747.27629@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) 
>blabs:
>
>>Great!  Now if all these people will show up for....
>>		Chicks 'n Dudes '93 - The Boink
>>We can all watch them battle it out in person.
>
>	Ummmmm.  Blatent advertisting on the net.  Tell us Bob, what

It is!  I really enjoy blatant advertising on the net.

>is your take from all of this?  Besides the perverse pleasure you get
>out of watching the participants go at it on the mattress?

I'm going to take pictures and post the GIFs in alt.tasteless.


Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne)
Subject: Re: HappyHappyHappy! JoyJoyJoy!
Summary: Blathering idiots that have a sex life
Organization: Yesterday's Nerd
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:20:43 GMT

In article <Jawara-110193130034@jawara.apple.com> Jawara@Applelink.Apple.COM 
(Ron Drake) oozes joy, glee and smug attitude with:

>Too serious.

	Serious?  

> All this flamage

	Hey, it's cold out -- we gotta keep warm.

>All this enmity. Adam retiring from the
>stage with a Gettysburg Address-like post. Desiree telling Ed to "be
>fruitful and multiply" in the Woody Allen sense. Oleg hurling smelt
>from the loft. Pre-sex contracts. Post-nasal drip. PMS. Rueing thirty
>instead of considering the alternative.

	I take it you don't the current topics being discussed?

>I've been guilty of this behavior myself. I'm also guilty of turning
>over a new leaf.

	Yea, and rabbits molt every year too -- what's your point?

> I side with the two Personal Ads and the woman who
>said she's been happy since the new year started. The sun is shining,
>I love somebody VERY much and I'm going skating!

	How do you "side" with a personal ad?  Just curious...

>And, as he bladed into the slough turn at Shoreline, this bright
>little ditty faded with him into the distance: always look on the
>bright side of life...

	and keep an eye on large semi's bearing down on you at 80mph...

Desiree

Newsgroups: ba.singles,soc.singles
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Re: PMS
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:39:39 GMT

HF.HLA@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lisa A. Haupt) writes:
] Hi Kids,
] 
] I teach a class on Monday nights and my students want to know about PMS and its
] effects from a male and female point of view.
] 


well, in the fleet we used the PMS/3M - Preventive Maintenace System,
as a part of the Materials, Manpower Management system and basically
I found it an effective method to stay in front of potentially life
threatening system failures.

One of the worst comedies that I ran into was after leaving
the fleet and going off to college. There on the upper deck of
the 'Art Building' was a traditional three inch deck drain,
just like the standard fitting on ships throughout the fleet.
But in Happy Civilian Land, Unlike the fleet, It is not a standard
MRC for monday morning on the PMS weekly schedule. So Happy Civilians,
unlike 'fleet tweets'  wait until the rains back up the drains
and flood the art department.

I guess that is an advantage to being PMSless?

ciao
drieux


-- 
Modern Day Problems:

"lets get linear, I want to get linear, linear"
				Olivia Newton Algegra
Newsgroups: ba.singles,soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Re: The Never Ending Circle (was Re: Duck and Jive (was Re
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:09:55 GMT

In article 25260@netcom.com, desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.011809.17271@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves 
><goid@zooid.guild.org> writes in response to Kenn Barry's old article
>about child support and financial responsibility:
>
>[entire article deleted -- it's all been said before {and much better
>I will add}]
>
>	Okay Goidy, you made your point.  Now, rather than rehashing
>an old tired thread that thankfully died out a couple of weeks ago,
>will you just go play somewhere else?


Des -- 

One of the charming traits of NetNews is that there is sometimes an incredible
delay between the last shot fired in a long and tedious debate, and the final
echo as someone logs on after a month's absence.  

It sort of like being asleep some hours after a large Thanksgiving dinner and 
having a burp which gives some gastric distress.


---
Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141
From: mcole@sub-40 (Mary Cole)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Having a good day...can you?
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:17:32 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <grismore-050193101048@gutzon.mv.us.adobe.com>  
grismore@adobe.com (Doug Grismore) writes:

> I encourage anyone in a good mood to post, and tell us all "I'm having a  
good day"


OK, Doug, well, here goes! For some unknown (and also unquestioned)  
reason, I've been EXTREMELY happy since the holidays! December was a  
frantic month for me, trying to get all the holiday stuff done on an  
accelerated schedule so that I could go back east and spend a week with my  
family. The visit was pleasantly confrontation-free (I usually hear a lot  
of crap about why I'm not remarried, why I live my live like I do, what am  
I going to DO with my life, and why don't I move back "home" where there  
are no earthquakes, mudslides, and an abundance of weirdos?). My son was  
an angel on both east- and west-bound flights (a lot to be grateful for!).  
I've gotten my house reasonably straightened up from the holiday deluge  
and I feel like I'm back into a normal routine! It's raining here (good  
for the reservoirs) and it's snowing in the mountains (good for the  
reservoirs and for skiing). Yep, I'm really happy about things in general!  
Maybe folks are grumpy because all the excitement of the holidays and  
parties is over and now the days are blustery and overcast.  Oh dear, I  
hope I don't incur a lot of wrath by being so cheerful!

Lively up yourself!
Mary
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Perfect Match (was-Re: If he bothers you...)
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:45:29 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <1993Jan6.001938.15496@netcom.com> desiree@netcom.com (Desiree Champagne) illogically blathers:

First this....

>>$10 says that Des won't even acknowledge my presence. 
>
>	Of course I won't Carpy.  I have never done so in the past, why
>should I start now?

*Then* she says this...

>> On the other hand, I
>>will smile at her and say hello.  Unlike some people, I was brought up to
>>believe that ignoring other people was rude, tacky, and in very poor taste.
>>Open hostility in public is rude and uncouth.
>
>	Call it whatever you want.  I prefer to say that I just don't have
>time to waste chit-chatting with people that bore me.  

If you've never paid any attention to me, how do you know if I'm boring or
not?  Methinks thou maketh no sense.  But that's par for the course - insults
and attempted put-downs are your style.  Logical, rational, reasoned comments
aren't, obviously...
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: ba.singles
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Subject: DYOD
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 05:34:22 GMT


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From: oleg@Veritas.COM (Oleg Kiselev)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Oxymorons, and other important trivia
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:49:58 GMT
Reply-To: oleg@veritas.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Organization: Palo Alto Killifish Loft

akao@.com (Adam Kao) writes:
>I've been going too fast.  Also, I've been lazy.  I actually thought,...[etc]

If you are who you sound like, Adam Kao, I have just a few things to tell 
you:
. You didn't get better with age
. You are still as clueless as ever
. You are still irrelevant to me
. Nice attempt at a compliment, but it comes 4 years too late to matter

And if you aren't who you sound like, you are a sick monkey, Adam Kao.
Seek therapy.  You obviously need it as much as she did.

Regardless of who you are, Adam Kao, don't expect to get much responce 
from me.  "Depends where", indeed.
-- 
Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.

Oleg Kiselev                                             oleg@veritas.com
VERITAS Software                           ...!{apple|uunet}!veritas!oleg
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: Perfect Match (was-Re: If he bothers you...)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:17:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.230041.10438@fico.uucp> ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley) writes:
>Well, I think Ed Carp and Will Stevees (?spelling, well you know who I
>mean) are very suited to one another.  Maybe they should hang out toget-
>her and get lives.
>
>I had just HAD to get in on this!  The score so far is Desiree 34, Ed 0.
>Looking forward to the rest of the war!

Great!  Now if all these people will show up for....

		Chicks 'n Dudes '93 - The Boink
 
We can all watch them battle it out in person.
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Singles services - Together
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:16:03 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

In article <16355@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:

>I kinda wondered about that too.  Or for Great Expectations two to three
>grand will let you choose who you want to go out with.  I can choose who
>I want to go with now.  Why do I need a service?

My point exactly.

>By the way, do always end every sentence with a smiley face?

Yes, Almost.  Hey, what can I say?  I'm a happy guy!  Besides, I see humor in
almost everything.  Not a bad quality, methinks.  Beats being angry and
depressed.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: jmw@angelo.amd.com (John Wincn)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Turning 30!!
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:35:43 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA

In article <76133@apple.apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) writes:

Aaayyyy!   ...its ol' "Toilet Face" Carp!  Geeze, I haven't seen anything
out of you in ages!  I'm also a bit surprised to see that you're still
alive.  I noticed that you're drooling after Desiree a lot lately.  Does 
this mean that you're looking to be *her* piss slave now?

After all, Diane isn't on the net anymore -- or is she...

>Drool, drool.  I've always wanted a Miata.  Red.  <sigh>

Always?  ...you mean like, even before Mazda made them, or perhaps even
before you were born?  So now you've switched from piss to crankcase
oil.  Geeze, you are one wierd puppy, eddie.  
--
J. M. Wincn                           jmw@angelo.amd.com (408) YUP-BEER 
               Standard DISCLAIMER available on request. 
Newsgroups: ba.singles,soc.penpals,soc.singles,soc.singles.nice,alt.personals,alt.personals.ads
From: rky@leland.Stanford.EDU (rodney young)
Subject: SBM Seeks F Penpals
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 01:41:31 GMT



	Hello,

		I'm a SBM and I'm looking for female friends to write to.
	I'm 23 (24 on Feb. 6th) and I work and live in Stanford, Ca.  I
	don't drink, smoke or do drugs. I have too much respect for my body.
	I have a very wide range of hobbies and interests. They include,
	but are not limited to:

	Sports - (Racquetball, Tennis, Basketball, Swimming and Softball)

	Going Out - (Movies, Restaurants, Shopping, Bowling and Driving)

	Staying Home - (Cooking, Watching TV, Watching Videos, Sleeping,
			Playing Board and Card games and Just Hanging out)

	Music - (Jazz, R&B, Soul, Some Pop, Classical, Some Rap, Dance and
		 Some Regge.  I don't listen to much Hard Rock or Heavy Metal)

	Hobbies - (Computers, Amimation (comics,cartoons,etc.), Reading,     
		   Chess, Video Games, Talking, and Learning New Things)	

	
		I like to do most anything.  I'm very adventurous and I'll
	try anything.  I don't engage in any self-destructive behavior.  I'm
	a very posititve, laid-back individual who feels that the most 
	important thing you can do in life is to make yourself and the ones
	around you happy.  If anyone is interseted in writing me, my e-mail
	address is :

			rky@leland.stanford.edu

	I will respond to all who write.

	Have A Nice Day!

	Rodney Young 

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Chicks 'n Dudes '93 - The Update
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:17:23 GMT


The RSVP's have been flooding in so it looks like it could be
a great boink.

To update......

		Chicks 'n Dudes '93 - The Boink

Saturday, January 16th   6:00PM to 10:00PM or whenever
Harry's Hofbrau   399 W. El Camino Real   Mt. View
On the west side of the El Camino between Grand and Castro.
We have a private room reserved in the back.   Just walk
past the bar and keep walking.  I'll have a sign somewhere.

Harry's has great low-budget bulk food and a full bar.

Feel free to bring any friends, family, SO, etc.  It's 
certainly not limited to singles.

RSVP's are appreciated but not necessary.

See ya there!

Newsgroups: ba.singles