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From: mizutanit@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Advice needed on CD-ROM drive
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:00:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I'm thinking of buying a CD-ROM for my 386/33 and I would like some advice/
suggestions on which drive to get, what is a good price and possible mail-order
sources.

I would like to get a SCSI CD-ROM, compatible with the Media Vision Pro Audio
Spectrum 16 sound board (I want to use its on-board interface as my SCSI
controller).

I need a drive which is MPC spec. compatible, and also CD-ROM XA capable
(preferably).

I also want an internally mounted drive.

I was looking at the August issue of Computer Shopper, and I saw two drives
which may meet my needs:
NEC CDR-84M
Sony CDU-535

Are there any other drives out there which may offer comparable performance?
How much is a good price for these drives?

Thanks in advance,
Taka
From: ericwolf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Cyrix 486DLC-33
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:00:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Jul23.072533.14155@usl.edu> mxt5182@usl.edu (Tangjarukij Montri) writes:
>Could anyone tell me if Cyrix486DLC-33 is 100% fully compatible with 
>Intel 486-33? What are the pros and cons of Cyrix486DLC-33 ? 
>Please e-mail me. I don't have much time to be in this newsgroup.
>
>Thank in advance,
>
>Montri Tangjarukij

I, too, am very interested in this chip and would also appreciate the info if
someone could post it.  For example, I would like to know the following (if at
all possible)

	(1) what varieties does the Cyrix 486 come in?
	(2) is it 100% Intel 486 compatable?
	(3) does it offer any advantages over the Intel 486?
	(4) How much $$$???

Thanks a lot!

- Eric
From: vjw40842@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Van John Woods)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: 386 Motherboard problem........
Summary: 386 Motherboard problems......
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:09:02 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


     Yet another interesting scenerio..... try to figure this one out!!
I have a 386-20 with 4 megs of RAM and a math coprocessor.  While booting,
I recieved an error from OS/2 which said:  Internal Processing Error at 
Location #0f00:9f70-0002:9f70    60010,6015, blah, blah, blah.....
After a few more attempts at rebooting, I now get absolutely nothing...
not even a power up self test.  The drives and other accessories receive
power, so I don't think it is a power supply problem (somebody suggested that
my power supply went bezerk and fried everthing......however, he  is a moron
and as a characteristic moron, I hope he is wrong.... ;-)  )

     What I would like to know is the following:  without specific testing,
can anybody make an educated guess at what the hell went wrong?  My first 
impulse was to replace the BIOS (well, actually my first impulse was to
throw it out the window.....).  The CMOS had been acting fishy 
previously too, which would be my next guess...

    Is there any economical way to fix this, or figure out what is wrong? 

Any suggestions are GREATLY appreciated......

Van Woods
email vjw40842@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: rmartin@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Can I mix 70ns SIMMS with 80ns SIMMS
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:28:54 GMT
Reply-To: rmartin@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Martin)
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


But, of course.

So long as the 80's are fast enough to begin with, you can always mix
faster chips.  When you install these chips into your computer, they
will not run any faster than the 80's.  The 70's are just capable of
running faster.

By the way, the 80's are fast enough on your DX-20.

Good Luck.....  Bob
From: DIXONW@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu (Bill Dixon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Advice needed on Colorado Tape drive.
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:57:51 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <t+jm74f.mmaston@netcom.com>
mmaston@netcom.com (Michael Maston) writes:
 
>
>
>I was in the same basic situation you are talking about (both floppy
>connectors used and only 2 supported by HD/FD interface).  I bought the
>Colorado Jumbo 120  and figured I would just live without one of my
>floppy drives when i needed the tape drive.  I found out, however, that
>the tape drive comes with a cable that connect to your FD interface and
>then connect to your existing FD cable.  Of course, this provided cable also
>has one more connector on it that goes to the tape unit itself.  The tape
>drive does not take the place of a floppy drive at all and therefore all
>three devices are available at all times.  They must bypass the firmware
>that controls the floppies and directly manipulate the tape drive hardware
>to achieve this.  Of course there is nothing (!) on the box that would let
>you know this ahead of time!  I assume that most (if not all) other floppy
>interface controlled tape units do the same thing.
 
    I, too, am considering purchase of a tape drive and had wondered how
the floppy connections worked. Thanks for clearing this up. One further
question, though: does this procedure degrade the performance of the
floppy drives in any noticeable way?
- - - -
   William J. Dixon
   Dept. of Political Science          Phone: (602) 621-7600
   University of Arizona              Bitnet: DIXONW AT ARIZVM1
   Tucson, Arizona 85721            Internet: dixonw@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu
From: ted@helios.ucsc.edu (Ted Cantrall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Seagate ST251 Info needed
Date: 24 Jul 1992 17:16:37 GMT
Organization: UCO/Lick Observatory
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu

*know the head, track, etc. count for the Seagate ST251 hard drive?
-----------------------------------
Head	Cyl	Precomp	Red.Write   Step-rate   Sec/Trk
6	820	none	none	       7	  17

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From: huebner@borneo.gmd.de (Uwe Huebner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Problems with Irwin Streamer HW-9982 (formatting)
Keywords: Tape, Streamer, Irwin, Format
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:47:49 GMT
Reply-To: huebner@eissn5.gmd.de
Organization: GMD, German National Research Center for Computer Science

Hi netters!

For about one week I have an (low-cost) Irwin Streamer HW-9982,
(or maybe sold as Commodore 970 tape drive) in my Noname (Saphir)
80386-DX 33MHz, 8MB RAM tower. During installation I had the problem
that the drive select jumper had to be switched from '1' to '2' which
seems to be unusual for a PC device. Then with the formatted AccuTrak
40MB tape (included in the package) everything worked fine.
However a formatting of the two additional Fuji DC2120 (60MB) tapes
seemed to be impossible. Either the servo-writing failed or the
subsequent formatting. I tried harder by erasing 
(with the EZTAPE software), bulk erasing, retensioning and so on...
At last I could manage to format one of the two Fuji tapes and only
had two bad blocks out of about 60 million blocks. I still try
to format the second one. Is it normal? Has anybody made similar
experience? What would You recommend?


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From: bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer
Subject: Re: Unix on a 486 PC
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:23:06 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

Nicholas Y. Pang (nyp00@cd.amdahl.com) writes:
| What are some of the flavors of UNIX available for running on a 486 PC?
| Which are your favorites? How much does it cost?
| Any minimal hardware requirements?   

  Anyone know when Nextstep 486 with Mach unix is due out and its approximate
  cost?  I've heard the system requirements include 8-16 MB RAM, 120 MB hard
  drive (400 MB for the development kit), cd-rom drive, 32-bit video card for
  color graphics, local bus video recommended. 
  ==

  Bob                                             Seattle, Washington
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From: kevinc@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Kevin Crocker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Wanted - 80ns 4Mb 9chip SIMMS - no computer shopper here
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:13:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

Hi all, even though I have 8Mb I want more!!!  Since I don't have access
to Computer Shopper or any other price guide, I need to find out what
the prices are for 4Mb 80ns (or 70ns) 9 chip SIMMS. I'd want at least
four of them. I'd prefer someone who can ship into Canada without all
the hassles of customs.

Another thing, I've also heard that I can take my current 80ns 1Mb
9 chip SIMMS and put them in a Mac - is this true - what an easy way to
upgrade my Mac.

Kevin
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From: calloway@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Frank Calloway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Set up HP Vectra ES/20 with nonstandard IDE drive
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:41:55 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO

Most IDE drives support "sector translation" mode, which lets them
emulate standard drive types that are not supported in the drive
table.  For example, I'm using a Toshiba IDE drive in an HP Vectra
QS/16.  I simply used the "setup" program to configure the system
for the next *smaller* capacity drive type that is supported by
my system and let the IDE drive do the rest.  This cost me about
2 mbytes -- the Toshiba drive is rated at 105 mbytes and this
method lets me use 103 of it.

Frank Calloway
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: u009@csx.cciw.ca (G. Stewart Beal)
Subject: Re: SCSI driver source wanted
Organization: Canada Centre for Inland Waters
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:37:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.031629.4115@news.columbia.edu> dc22@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Dieter Christensen) writes:
>HELLO SCUZZY PEOPLE!  I'm looking for SCSI driver source code...
>
I did a search for 'st01' on archie and came up with the following:
 
Host wuarchive.wustl.edu
 
    Location: /mirrors3/garbo.uwasa.fi/source
           FILE -rw-rw-r--      25125  Oct 11 1990  st01driv.lzh
    Location: /systems/minix/pc
           FILE -rw-rw-r--      41421  Sep 11 1991  mdoell-st01-2
    Location: /usenet/comp.sources.misc/volume25
      DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        512  Apr 12 17:03  st01scsi
 
I have downloaded the last one and it is driver source code and stuff
for a UNIX system, although you may be able to use it. I haven't looked
at the others.
 
Regards, Stu Beal, VE3MWM, U009@CS.CCIW.CA,
National Water Research Institute,
Burlington, Ontario, Canada.
 
The Future lies ahead, and behind us lies... lies... lies...
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tooraj@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Tooraj Enayati)
Subject: Re: Text Editor Hardware
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:03:46 GMT

davei@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr D Ingles) writes:

>Has anyone come across any hardware which is basically a text editor ? I
>am looking for a machine which is cheap and portable and which can
>transfer ASCII data to an from an IBMPC compatable. A reasonable keyboard 
>would be required.

>Davei

Yes, there are dedicated wordprocessors around, by Brother, Canon, etc.
They are usally bulky and expensive. just get an old XT with mono
monitor and some PD word processor, it'll be  much cheaper.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.unix.bsd,comp.unix.i386,misc.wanted
From: gilgalad@sparky.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin)
Subject: WANTED: Help with BSD 386, Linux, SVGA and X (X386)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:57:47 GMT


Ok.  With the info that I've garnered so far, I've come to a decent conclusion
as to what sort of system I'm going to get.  I still have a couple more
questions to ask.

Here's the rough system I'm planning on getting:

ISA 486DX33, 1.2 gig SCSI drive, Adaptec 1542B SCSI controller, Exabyte 8500
(eveuntally), SCSI (external) CDROM, 16 megs, SVGA hicolor RAMDAC card,
NI monitor.

What SVGA cards are supported by X386 (X11R5 pl12)?  I've heard that the
ATI Ultra is based on the ET4000 and is 3 to 5 times as fast as the Tseng.

Are there any cards that support 1280x1024@256 (NI) or 1280x1024@24 bits (NI)?
How fast are they?  Does X386 support them?  BSD 386?  Linux?  OS/2?  Windows?

I suppose that going with Local Bus is a bad idea right now.

Any comments?  Does the ATI work with X386?

What resolutions and colors does X386 support?  1024x768@256?  1280x1024@16?
1280x1024@24 bits? 1024x768@24 bits?

I'm planning on using an external SCSI CD-ROM becuase I'd like to be able
to use it on my Amiga.  Any recommendations as far as drives?

Does BSD386 and the Adaptec support Exabytes?

Too many questions? :)

PS- I have received a decent amount of information, which I will condense
and repost to the net.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
From: ziff@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Brian Moore)
Subject: Re: Please Help with Adaptec Prices (2nd posting)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:20:25 GMT

pdg@crosfield.co.uk (paul goffin) writes:

>The going price for an Adaptec 1542B card here in the UK
>is about #210. ie  about $385.

>I know of one US dealer who is selling this card for
>$299, but before I part with my hard earned cash, can
>anyone point me to another supplier who has them for less?

>(Or is that the going price in the US?)

I checked the latest Computer Shopper and Computability is selling the 
1542B Kit for $249 (US) (800)558-0003.  I just did a quick scan and
didn't find one for cheaper.

Hope this helps,
Brian Moore

Disclaimer: I have no connection with Computability, I just saw the ad in
            Computer Shopper.
From: stevanc@castle.ed.ac.uk (Stevan Clee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Graphics Card info WANTED
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:05:34 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Edinburgh University

Can anyone recomend and good graphics card which will run the MAG MX15F 
monitor.  Doing the following modes.

1280x1024 @ 60Hz (ni)
1024x768 @ 70 Hz (ni)

With either 15bit,16bit or 24bit colour.

Would the NCR-22E or some TE4000 type card do it?

I want to be able to display more than 16 colour at the 1280x1024 res.
(ie need at least 2MB)
(price range $200-$350  [100-180 pounds])

Can anyone help?

Stevan
(stevanc@castle.ed.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: sxl2259@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Mouse Problem
Reply-To: sxl2259@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:29:23 GMT

I use Microsoft Mouse too, made in U.S.A..........I got the same problem....
but I use another Microsoft mouse in company, which is made in japan...use..
different kind of roller......no problem.......

If you find the solution, pls let me know asap! Thanks in advance.


Shen-wei
From: hjkim@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Info. wanted: Data Acquisition Card recommendation
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:57:35 GMT

My lab need a simple data acqusition card for IBM XT.
 At least 
 One A/D converter
 One Digital input ports( 5 - 12 bits)
are necessary.

Would you recommand most popular D.A. card and the estimate price?
That will help me to complete my research system.
Thanks in advance
Organization: TECHNION - Israel Institute of Technology.
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 16:11:15 IST
From: Jacques J. Goldberg <PHR00JG@TECHNION.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Need info on WD RLL controller card

I happen to have a WD1002A-27X. I was told by experts here that it definitely
would work, but SSLLOOWW, on a machine with an AT bus. It has only two jumpers
none of the kind you say.
I also have several WD1004-27X, and I also have THE DOCUMENTATION for the 1004
family (1004 and 1004A both -27X).It's also an XT oriented controller (8 bits).

Sure enough there is jumper W28 which "allows the controller to operate with
an XT computer when the jumper is OUT". It says nothing else, which may of
course be interpreted as "put a jumper in position W28 if you want to have
a controller that will work with no computer"... ;-)
From: REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Fast 32 bit bus and cards
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:13:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System


   EISA (given that the clock speeds on it & ISA are the same) is capable of do
ubling the IO speed of you ISA cards (yes your ISA cards) provided the drivers
& boards can handle the improved DMA timing.  OK, your ISA boards that use DMA.
   Now, consider a factor of 2 for 32-bit EISA cards and you have a factor of 4
 possible improvement.  (All EISA is 8.25 MHz).
   Of course, you can get a theoretical 200 MB/s transfer out of a 50 MHz 32 bi
t local bus in burst mode, bu nobody does...   Local bus is substantially faste
r & when either VESA or Intel wins the latest bus war, even I might buy into it
.  So go ahead & buy one.  I hope you choose wisely & if everyone picks the sam
e, I'll join you.   OTOH, I'd rather see 50 MHz EISA!  IT COULD BE DONE!

Jeff Andle  d.b.a. "Scandle"           Internet REE700A@maine.maine.edu
LAB. FOR SURFACE SCIENCE & TECH. (LASST)  U. MAINE @ ORONO

"OPINIONS ARE LIKE <POSTERIOR VOIDS>: EVERYONE HAS ONE & THEY ALL STINK"
I want a computer which will age as gracefully as my '76 KZ-900!
From: "kenneth tam" <kenneth.tam@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: ati ultra vs s3
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:14:10 EST
Reply-To: "kenneth tam" <kenneth.tam@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

07-21-92  08:29 - Meir I Green wrote to All re: Vesa & local bus, plus... 

 MIG> From what I have heard, the ATI Ultra is one of the fastest cards
 MIG> around, especially when you are using software that takes advantage of
 MIG> the 8514/A standards.  S3 cards are slower than standard VGA cards,
 MIG> unless you have a special S3 driver for them.  The ATI (graphics ultra)
 MIG> is faster than normal (ET4000) cards even without special software,
 MIG> because of the fast VRAM, coupled with a fast built in VGA controller.

The Graphics Ultra uses onboard VGA Wonder+ (non-XL) circuitry, which is
by no means as fast as normal ET4000.  It has 1.5 MB of memory -- 1 MB
VRAM for the accelerated/8514 modes and .5 MB of DRAM for VGA.

Yes, S3 cards are slower than standard VGA cards, but it's quite possible
you won't notice much of a difference.  It depends where your priorities
are I suppose -- I've used S3's and various "normal" VGA cards and the
speed difference doesn't bother me..

Note S3 Inc. now has the 86C924 chip available for manufacturers; it's
fully back compatible with the 86C911 (ie "_the_ S3 chip") and has a
number of enhancements.  Exactly what they are I haven't been able to
find out.  
 
One big disadvantage with the current Graphics Ultra is the lack of 
hi-color support (15 or 16 bit).  This really bites, as it's kind of
depressing spending that sort of money for a card and not getting a
nifty feature that's commonly available on $100-$150 cards.  If only
they had used Wonder XL circuitry on it..

OTOH, '911 S3 based cards are slightly cheaper than the Graphics Ultra,
boast pretty hefty acceleration and tend to support both 15 and/or 16 bit
hi-color.  BUT they don't do 800x600x32K, which is a real killer IMO.  
640x480x32K or x65K is really only useful for displaying some .TGA pics
or something -- running an GUI OS in such a low pixel resolution is
becoming increasingly difficult.  Whereas 800x600 is quite usable for  
GUIs..  
 
Most ET4000 boards with hi-color support 800x600x32k or x65k.  But
they aren't accelerated -- so you probably wouldn't want to work in those
modes even though you can, since they'll be slow..
 
I think for now, the best compromise is an 8514/A Ultra (no VGA) hooked
up to a good ET4000 with hi-color, and both cards hooked up to a
17"+ monitor with switchable inputs.  Pretty hefty $$.


kenneth.tam@canrem.com

 
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From: ankleand@mtl.mit.edu (Andrew Karanicolas)
Subject: Question about Windows
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:26:58 GMT

Hi,

I've got a question about Microsoft Windows.  I have a Dell316SX which had
Microsoft Windows installed at the factory.  The machine has 8M of
memory and an 80M hard disk.

Can Windows multi-task?  That is, can I run a program in one window
and simultaneously run another program in a different window?  The
idea I have is to run the control program of an Audio Precision
generator and data acquisition software at the same time.  The AP uses
an interface card and the data acquisition software makes use of a
Quatech parallel port expansion card.

Thanks for your help!

-- 
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MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratory
ankleand@mtl.mit.edu
From: ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: 800x600x32k
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:05:10 GMT
Reply-To: ishikawa@personal-media.co.jp
Organization: Personal Media Corp., Tokyo Japan


Hello.

I have a simple question to ask:

What is the affordable graphics card that can do
	800x600x16K or 800x600x32K ?

I have followed the discussion on ATI Ultra and a few comparisons with
S3-based card. But I didn't know if there is any inexpensive card (say
less than $500) that can do 800x600x16k or 800x600x32k.
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Subject: ZEOS ON THE 'NET.
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd. 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:21:51 GMT


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