HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca (CHRISTIAN D. ARMOUR)
Subject: Re: death to england first
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:42:26 GMT

>>In article <1992Sep29.023710.11839@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley ) writes:

>We _could_ start in England, Switzerland, or Canada, but I think
>our best bet is somewhere like L.A. or New York where
>those 'Eco-Hobbits' (what a cool phrase.  Kudos to whoever
>thought it up.) won't notice us until IT'S TOO LATE.

Start with Canada!  Start with Canada!  I'm the only person who 
isn't an Eco-Hobbit in this place.

Don't use radioactivity.  Just take away all the "Body Shops".  

That'll kill 'em.


C. Armour-Kidson
cs911461@ariel.yorku.ca

Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
From: bc205cs@opie.bgsu.edu
Subject: Tilt the earth
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:56:20 GMT

About tilting the orbit of the earth:

  I always thought about destroying the moon (either nuking it away or hitting
it hard enough that it careens off into outer space) to tilt the earth's orbit. 
My early interest in the plan stemmed from the idea that, after blowing up the
moon, any time a person came in contact with a song, painting, book, or
anything with a reference to the moon, they would remember the party
responsible for destroying the moon.  Teary-eyed eco-hobbits would tell their 
children about the good old days when there was a moon at night, nocturnal
species would become extinct, and so on.
  I was forced to rethink this plan, however, when I read in the paper (For
real), that some scientist was suggesting that we blow up the moon, which would
tilt the Earth's orbit, which would effectively stop global warming.  (The
eco-bunnies can pervert _Anything_!).
  What if we nuked the moon from the other side, so that it carreened into the
Earth?  I bet that would take care of the global warming problem.

Joshua.
From: jseaver@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: alt.destroy.the.earth
Subject: Re: death to england first
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:53:25 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Sep28.201226.14327@news.nd.edu> (Daniel O'Bannion) writes:
>Just please make sure that you start the destruction in that
>pathetic little island country the grand old U.K.
>
>fuck you, limey assholes! do mankind a favor--stay indoors.
>or better yet, stop wasting good oxygen!

	NO!!  We destroy the Swiss first - little neutral, unable to commit to
anything bastards!  THEN we destroy England!!  No, wait, let's destroy Canada
first!  Always leaching off the United States and then being snobbish about
not actually BEING the U.S.

						-Jay
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: rmills@controls.ccd.harris.com (Richard C. Mills)
Subject: Re: Innocent Blood
Organization: Harris Controls and Composition
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:42:44 GMT

	Just one question.  Someone said Vapires predate christianity? How
so? I don't think so.


Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu (Angela KAY Rolling)
Subject: Forever Night
Reply-To: txdv1@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:10:40 GMT

It seams that I dont get the show were I am at. Would anyone out there
with a VCR be willing to record it for me If I sent them a blank tape?
Please reply via e-mail. Thank you a head of time.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: battlec@cs.rpi.edu
Subject: Re: god(Lowercase Intended)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:45:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.214318.159951@zeus.calpoly.edu>, molsen@zeus.calpoly.edu (Mark David Olsen) writes:
|> In article <92272.032804SWR103@psuvm.psu.edu> Sean Rearick <SWR103@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> >Just like to make a comment.  I've been an athiest for the past 6 years.
|> >While this may not interest anyone, the reason for my desicion is from
|> >'The Vampire Lestat'.  Before reading it I hadn't really thought about god,
|> >just sort of took it for granted.  However, the part in the book, when
|> >Lestat realizes that there is no god, got me thinking.  I basicaly
|> >decided that he was right.  Anyone else's life affected by the 'Vampire
|> >Chronicles' this strongly?
|> 
|> I have to agree with what is said here.  I have been an athiest for a good
|> number of years now and the 'Vampire Chronicles' only strengthened my
|> beliefs.  'The Queen of the Damned' led me to beleive the reality of spirits
|> (plus other events in my life have aided in this) but the Legend of the
|> Twins definately helped.  It is one of the first 'histories' of early man
|> that I feel makes sense.  Anyway, just wanted to throw my two bits in.
|> 


	This is FICTION people! Y`know...make-believe!  Are we that desperate
	for truth that we resort to fairy tales as the basis for a belief 
	system.  Might you start reciting the "litany against fear" and 
	destroying computers after reading DUNE? These stories are meant to
	entertain not profess truth.  The only reliabe source of truth is the
	real world around us.  Fiction presents ideas, not answers.


	
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: sweide@uceng.UC.EDU (Steven Weide)
Subject: question
Organization: University of Cincinnati, Engineering College
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:09:18 GMT


I was wondering , everyone knows how vampyres need blood to survive, but what 
happens if they don't get blood?  Do they die(permanently) or just get weak?
                                 Just wondering,
                                             Steve
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
Subject: Re: foreVER NIGHT
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:08:34 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Sep28.125133.2762@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> shayden@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Sean Lee Hayden) writes:
>
>Is this some kinda net gag?  I have scowerd the television for the past week
>hoping to see it!  All i see in the guide is:
>
>11:05	Cosby
>11:30	Designing Women
>12:00	Jenny Jones
>01:00	Designing Women
>01:30	That amore
>02:00	Eyewitness News
>02:30	Up to the minute
>05:00	Morning News.
>
>That is the whole lineup.....So where do Forever Night fit in?
>
     It's hiding behind Delta Burke.

     To seriously answer your question, it looks like your local CBS
affiliate doesn't carry it.  There are apparently a couple of different
late-night packages that CBS offers to its affiliates - they can carry
one or none of these.  Looks like yours carries none.
     Call the station and ask them about it - if enough people call
they may pick it up.

					-Phil
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From: rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Innocent Blood
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:41:04 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Data General Corp. Performance Services, Atlanta, GA

In article <markus.43.717863735@clement.info.umoncton.ca>, markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN) writes:
|> In article <SPIKE.92Sep24130818@coke.std.com> spike@coke.std.com (Joe Ilacqua) writes:
|> >From: spike@coke.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
|> >Subject: Innocent Blood
|> >Date: 24 Sep 92 18:08:18 GMT
|> 
|> 
|> >        I saw "Innocent Blood" last night.  The TV ads have made it
|> >look stupid, but I got a free pass, so I went.  It is awesome.  If you
|> >liked An American Werewolf In London, you will like Innocent Blood
|> >(both are directed by John Landis).  It is the same sort of very funny
|> >horror movie.
|> 
|> 
|> 	C'mon!!  Do you really think a vawpire can go in a church??  The 
|> wampires in 'Innocent Blood' doesn't have fangs.  They chew their victims' 
|> neck and then suck their blood.  I found the movie stupid.  They're not 
|> vapires.
|> 
	   Well, I guess that means Lestat isn't a vampire either. He not
	only entered a church, he spent the day there (with his mom - 
	musta been one of those obligatory Mother's Day church-goings 
	<grin>). 

	   Take a pill, dude. Expand your horizons a little. Variations
	on a theme. Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations and all
	that. Chill.

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From: v083pwhz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (CHARLES BARONE)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: re: time traveling vampyres
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


>>>>All are as probable (or more so) than wormholes, black holes or time
>>>>travel (which I happen to believe in also).  

>>One question, if time travel can exist, then where are all the time travellerss
>>from the future?

>>(Maybe hanging out with the vampyres and Elvis, eh? :) :) :) )

>Seriously, though.  If time travel were possible...wouldn't the time
>travellers be going to the "best" time possible or "most significant"
>time?  We'd be pretty conceited to say our time is the "best and most
>significant".  

>They could also be invisible to us (dimensional fluxuations).

>OR...they don't even know we're here (most likely)...perhaps the future
>of our human race doesn't include time-travel.  We die out before we
>discover how.  Thus, the time travellers wouldn't even come here, and if
>they did...they'd be aliens anyway!

>Zowy!
>....e

Speaking as physics major:
Time travel is possible, you travel through the 4th dimension constantly.
As you approach the speed of light relative to another reference frame,
your time reference varies relativistically. Thus 1 second in your frame
could be 1000yrs in the other relative frame of reference. (i would 
guess at a speed of .9999999c  m/s)
	This could be considered time travel forward. Time travel backwards
is not relativistically feasible. The necessary velocity could be achieved
by a black hole. The acceleration to this velocity at any reasonable rate
would collapse a person or undead vampyre's atoms flat. An electromagnetic
shift (worm hole?) would scatter the person into quantum particles.
	
	On another note vampyres tend to know a great deal of magic. 
Science tends to contrast magic. I would guess a time spell would make
him able to travel around time (if he was a really powerful vampyre)


Disclaimer: you don't have to believe me, all the information is availible
through your local library. (except the magic bit :) )
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Re: The existance of Vampires
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:28:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.213333.11982@muddcs.claremont.edu> ahughes@jarthur.claremont.edu (The Fool) writes:
>In article <51s8RB7w165w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!jwlhyfer@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>>We are here whether you choose to believe in us or not..Your belief does 
>>not affect our existance or our lives.
>>
>Actually, I have no way of knowing that. All I have to go on is my perception
>of your claim of existence. There is no way you can prove that I'm not simply
>imagining you and all the rest.
>
Dang, found out again!  Yes, we are all fignment of your imagination.  If
you cease to believe in us, we will be gone.  (Read Twain's _Giants of the
Earth_ for advice).  Don't, please.



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From: peircga2@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Glenn Peirce)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Innocent Blood
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:28:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Oct2.134059.19073@ccd.harris.com> rmills@controls.ccd.harris.com (Richard C. Mills) writes:
>	
>>>       Just one question.  Someone said Vapires predate christianity? How
>>> so? I don't think so.
>
>>well the most common myths dont, but if vampires exist,
>>then they probably existed before christ was born
>
>	Well, there I think you might be right now that I think about it.
>(NO, I am not pushing anything).  The bible does mention vampire-like
>creatures in the old testament, whether these were actual creatures or
>people who messed with blood sacrifice, I don't know. 

   The Bible does mention vampires, and it even names one.  This very net
has mentioned her as well.  The vampire mentions Lilith.  (or is it Lillith?)
She was one of those who fell from grace with Lucifer (who was called Satan)
and joined him in his temporary rule on Earth.  She is to tempt man with 
immortality just as Satan tempts man with Earthly pleasures.
From: banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Date: 1 Oct 1992 20:20:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:
>	Oh, come on!  Where do they find these people?  THERE ARE NO SUCH
>THINGS AS VAMPIRES!!!!  Get a clue!  It's okay for a fun fantasy, but let's
>try to keep things in perspective!  This woman is making some fast money
>off those people stupid enough to believe in such rubbish!

Actually sir, if you want to call yourself batman I really wouldn't give a
shit.  I've never seen a graviton but I tend to think they exist; so sure,
I'm certain someone somewhere thinks they are a vampire.

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From: jbw@bigbird.bu.edu (Joe Wells)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: "no such thing" (was: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!)
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:22:13 GMT
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Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: rougan@wpi.WPI.EDU's message of 4 Oct 92 23:48:23 GMT

In article <ROUGAN.92Oct4164823@wpi.WPI.EDU> rougan@wpi.WPI.EDU (Untitiled) writes:

   Shawn "I'm an invader from mars prove me wrong!" Pezzuto
                                   ^^^^^

I think the confusion is that people think that it is possible to prove
something related to reality.  Proofs have nothing to do with reality.

To paraphrase Albert Einstein, "as far as our knowledge refers to reality,
it is not certain; and as far as it is certain, it does not refer to
reality."

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From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Date: 05 Oct 92 17:38:42 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: usa

In article <fletch.717982508@camelot> fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:
>	
>	Okay, granted, there ARE people who are derranged enough to believe
>that they ARE vampires.  Therefore, they have an affinity for blood.  And,
>there are people who have UV sensitive skin which forces them to never go out
>during the day without proper protection.  HOWEVER, there is no such thing as
>an "undead" creature which will live eternally unless a stake is planted in
>it's heart!  It is fantasy and it should remain there!
>

      Prove it.  Come back when you have conclusive evidence of
the non-existence of vampires.

					-Phil
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From: ahughes@jarthur.claremont.edu (The Fool)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: truth
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:00:29 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <BvKw89.JFK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
>In article <JBW.92Oct3191229@bigbird.bu.edu> jbw@bigbird.bu.edu (Joe Wells) writes:
>>In article <6_lzccf@rpi.edu> battlec@cs.rpi.edu writes:
>>
>>   The only reliable source of truth is the real world around us.
>>
>>Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!
>
>Would the other source be from visions gained while taking psychadelics?
>
>Also, on the same note, would reality be derived from the world or
>out PERCEPTION of the world?
>
>For instance, if we were to percieve that vampires exist, then would
>they?
>(Yes, I know its a bit esoteric, but still a legit. question)
>
>-- 
>Brent L. Irvine					"Dyslexics of the World
>irvine@decwa.ece.uiuc.edu			UNTIE!"		- Kral Mrax
>

This is my first attempt at this, so prepare to flame me good!!! :)

Anyway, what exactly *is* the world? We really have no data to operate on 
other than our perceptions of the world. It would therefore seem to me that
the two are one and the same as far as we are concerned. Please don't claim
that any sort of scientific instrument  gives "real" results. That's simply
adding another layer of uncertainty between ourselves and the "real" world 
(whatever that is, if anything).

Admittedly this is a little strange/esoteric, but I would argue that it is as
sensible if not more so than any theory which claims a definite "reality."

No, I don't expect to run into a vampire, but if I perceived one, it would
exist as far as I'm concerned for as long as I believed. The memory/time
thing would take up way too much space, so I'll skip it.

Flame away, but be warned -- I'll shoot back.

				The Fool
				    ;-)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: fluffy@camelot.bradley.edu (Jeffrey Waltersdorf)
Subject: Re: lilith
Keywords: Lilith, Bible, vampire?
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  3 Oct 92 16:15:39 GMT

beeler@acs.ucalgary.ca (Karin E. Beeler) writes:


>Glenn Peirce writes that the Bible mentions Lilith, a vampire. This
>statement, however, is not entirely correct. Biblical concordances,
>for example, do not list the name Lilith. Furthermore, Gershom
>Scholem, author of _Kabbalah_ states that there is only one
>reference to Lilith in Scripture (Isa. 34:14). She is "among the
>beasts of prey and the spirits that will lay wast the land on the day
>of vengeance" (Scholem, 356). (The King James Version of the
>Bible only mentions these beasts and not the name Lilith.)

Neither does the New International Version.  Isaiah chapter 34 is
subtitled "Judgement Against the Nations" and verse 14 is in the midst
of a description of the desolations left after God's wrath:

"Desert creatures will meet with hyenas, and wild goats will bleat to
  each other;
there the night creatures will also repose and find for themselves
  places of rest."

As far as Lillith being the first wife of Adam--definitely not from
canonical Scripture.  Eve is the first woman, created from Adam's side,
and also his first wife.



Jeff
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From: jbw@bigbird.bu.edu (Joe Wells)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: truth (was: god(Lowercase Intended))
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:12:29 GMT
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Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: battlec@cs.rpi.edu's message of 30 Sep 92 16:45:53 GMT

In article <6_lzccf@rpi.edu> battlec@cs.rpi.edu writes:

   The only reliable source of truth is the real world around us.

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ulicny@athena.mit.edu (Brian E Ulicny)
Subject: Movies
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:00:36 GMT

I saw a thing briefly on "Entertainment Tonight" about upcoming vampire movies,
and they said that Christopher Atkins (the guy who was in "Blue Lagoon" with
Brooke Shields) is in one.  Does anyone know anything about that?
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: tsullivan@trentu.ca (Tim E. Sullivan)
Subject: Suggestions on Game Design
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:53:00 GMT


  G'day. I'm in a small bind. I'm designing an action/adventure video game 
for PC's (in VGA), and I have the gaming SYSTEM done, and I'm currently 
doing games design and getting graphics done. What I need is help for ideas 
ala plotlines, possible objectives, even short movie sequences. The only 
two rules on ideas are 1) the main character will NOT get out of being a 
vampyre and 2) No redundant "monster bashing"...  However, anything else 
would be much appreciated.. I have yet to see a game made that does 
Vampyres justice.

  PLEASE reply tp the email address below, as it'll make life easy pour 
moi! Thanks.


   Tim Sullivan
   tsullivan@trentu.edu

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From: fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie)
Subject: Re: Vampire Victims Needed for TV Interview!
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date:  1 Oct 92 23:35:08 GMT

In <watpod72.717956337@cunews> watpod72@alfred.carleton.ca (George Bragg) writes:

>In <fletch.717901884@camelot> fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:

>>	Oh, come on!  Where do they find these people?  THERE ARE NO SUCH
>>THINGS AS VAMPIRES!!!!  Get a clue!  It's okay for a fun fantasy, but let's
>>try to keep things in perspective!  This woman is making some fast money
>>off those people stupid enough to believe in such rubbish!

>No such thing as undead creatures who have no reflection, maybe...
>However, there are people out there who believe they are vampires, who
>do drink blood, and who probably don't want to be on tv anyway...  :)
	
	Okay, granted, there ARE people who are derranged enough to believe
that they ARE vampires.  Therefore, they have an affinity for blood.  And,
there are people who have UV sensitive skin which forces them to never go out
during the day without proper protection.  HOWEVER, there is no such thing as
an "undead" creature which will live eternally unless a stake is planted in
it's heart!  It is fantasy and it should remain there!

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