From: st10t@Rosie.UH.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave or Techno?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 05:12:40 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: st10t@Rosie.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu

In article <1993Jan11.130518.1300@gssec.bt.co.uk>, squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg) writes:
>
>-- 
>
>In article <1993Jan10.211105.5853@wam.umd.edu>, hmo@wam.umd.edu (Hipno House) writes:
>|> In article <C0nMAz.72p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel DuBois) writes:
>|> >I like Sesame's Treat, I like Apotheosis, I like Dominator, I like
>|> >Destoryer, I like Mother Fu*ker Man, I like Na Na, I like Ping Pong,
>|> >I like Pullover, I like Speed Racer.  I dont care if these are
>|> >considered old, or crappy, or commercial, or sellout, or nauseating
>|> >by some guy in the Uk, or some chick in the US.
>|> >
>|> >
>|> >Ok?
>|> >
>|> >-Dan
>
>
>	Oooooh Baby ! Speak hard to me ! I didn't know anyone could be so tuff.
>You're no Raver , your basically the dance version of a Def Leopard and Extreme
>fan ...... enough said !
>
>|> 
>
>|> My feelings exactly!  I go to raves because they play the latest techno
>|> tunes, nonstop.  I dance and enjoy the music.  I could care less about
>|> acid, X, laughing gas, whatever, it's your perogative.  However, it's 
>|> that shit that is ruining the reputation of raves.  What we need are 
>|> clean drug-free raves.  If you can't dance without drugs, then that means
>|> you can't hang with the music.  You should learn to enjoy it without any
>|> additional help.  It's for your own good.  If you want to rave forever,
>|> then decrease the drugs, the sooner the better.
>|> 
>	Hey , if drugs weren't invented , there would have been NO acid parties
>, NO Warehouse illegal raves , and NO shit 'raves' (ha!) that you go to now ...
>
>	It wasn't always bad , there was a time when people took E and were
>happy , and , hey , if you gouched then people helped you through it .... an E
>was a nice once weekly escape into the kingdom of luurrve :-) At a secret
>location of your choice ...
>
>	Maybe you should stop going to 'raves' , nah , in fact STOP going
>immediatley , in fact , People of America , stop this guy going , or I predict
>that within the next couple of months , you will all be as bitter as me :-) when
>he destroys your weekend's fun.
>	Hey , I got a suggestion for you ... why don't you sit at home and play
>"duck hunt" on your Nintendo , and live life in a nice , clean VR world , then
>you can't harm anyone else with your crap ...
>
>
>|> 
>|> Now, the reason for my post is because of these so-called "crossover",
>|> "commercialized" groups that most of you do not like.  For example,
>|> Smart E's, 2 Unlimited, and whoever else.  Yeah, they're popular and
>|> overplayed, but this is how people hear techno and begin to enjoy it.
>
>	Nah , I listened to dance because it evolved from the music I listened
>to in the Mid 80's , people like the Happy Mondays and New Order , and the mixes
>of 'indie' records by people like Andrew Weatherall , whenI first heard piano
>house ..... if people start off by listening to 2-Unlimited bollocks , then they
>will probably keep listening to them , and then grow up and destroy all dance
>music from existence .... a bit like yourself .
>
>|> I mean people start listening to these bands and begin exploring the 
>|> world of techno.  Plus, you have to admit that these groups aren't that 
>|> bad.  They do have some good jams on their records (Especially, Smart-E's).
>|>
>	What good Jams ??? Get this music to hell , and shoot everyone who
>listens to it .... I would rather listen to Kylie, at least she's good looking.
> 
>|> Well, that's it.  This is all my opinion of course, and if you do not 
>|> agree, that's why you didn't write it.
>|>
>	 your opinion , it stinks ..... get some attitude and stop sucking up to
>your peers ... get caught smoking dope or something , I don't know , anything
>that boosts your 'image' .... "look mom , that mans got arrested"
> 
>|> Rave, rave, a little longer.
>|> 
>	..... or shorter in your case ....
> 
>|> -- 
>|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>|>      Haluk                            "Better mixes than Betty Crocker"  
>|>  hmo@wam.umd.edu                           --CLUB 95 on WPGC 95.5--
>|> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>
>
>Stephen Quigg
>squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
>British Telecom , Group Software Engineering and Development
>(Disclaimer : I once met a lawyer in a pub .... )

I thought this was so ridiculous that everyone should read this again.

Me personally, I think this response is what is disillusioning me from the rave
scene and causing me to think its just the same as the all the College Radio 
elites...

	BS

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