From: tjhendry@queen.mcs.drexel.edu (Jonathan Hendry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Need to convince boss 486's are *not* way to go...
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:59:25 GMT
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Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.
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jkalanuk@bbs.draco.bison.mb.ca (Jeremy Kalanuk) writes:
: In a message written on Wed, 20 Jan 1993 00:26:50 GMT, 
: zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes :
: 
: In article <1jhck1INN507@pith.uoregon.edu> rtaylor@cie.uoregon.edu (Russ 
: Taylor)
:  writes:
: >Question:
: >
: >If NeXT is so much more godawful fast than a Mac (which it isn't) then 
: why
: >is a 68030 Mac suitable for almost anything, while an 030 NeXT is so 
: slow
: >it got cancelled?  BTW, how fast are those 486s with NeXTstep going to 
: run
: >DisplayPostcript?  Not very, I'd wager.
:  
: If a 68030 Mac is suitable for almost anything, then why do they make 
: 68040
: Macs?  Your line of reasoning is illogical.  I have a valid question, 
: however.
: WHY do the new Mac server machines run AU/X INSTEAD of MacOS????  Because
: MacOS is not even powerful enough to handle simple tasks such as file 
: serving
: and network support.
: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: 
: I think it is you who needs to chekc your logic/reasoning.  Let's face 
: it, have you ever worked on a NeXT?  I'm beginnin to think not by your 
: stupid comments.  The next machne is sluggish compared to a Quadra in 
: most cases.  It is true that in alot of OS cases etc. the NeXT behaves 
: like an 030 IIci.  The MacOS interface is also a hell of a lot better 
: than that cheap welfare interface Jobs ships with the NeXT computer!  The 
: MacOS isn't pre-emptive multitasking, I'll admit that, but it's comming 
: up!  But with all of thsoe things you said about Mac, it was still better 
: than PCs, becuase the only "OK" current multitasker now on the PC 
: platform is OS/2, forget about windows.  I don't see next capturing a 
: large share of the marketplace anytime soon, and they don't deserve to.

I don't know if he has, but I certainly have.
I have been using Macs since 1988. I am a Junior at Drexel University,
part of the original Apple University Consortium which was formed as part
of the Macintosh marketing plan. Every student is strongly encouraged to buy
a Mac (read: browbeaten) as a Freshman. This is serious Mac territory.
I own an SE/30, which is a fine little machine. I used to be a machead.

Then, the fall of 1991, Drexel got two NeXTStations, a mono and a color.
I asked for and got permission to use them, and taught myself unix and NeXT
programming. During my six month co-op for 1992, I was able to land a job
as a NeXT programmer. In August, I picked up a used 040 cube, stuffed it with
another 8 megs of Ram (from my SE/30 :) and NS 3.0.

To put it simply, I hate using Macs now. Okay, hate is a bit strong. How about,
I'm highly uncomfortable. I feel highly restricted. The least reason for this
is the fact that I cannot do things while copying files on a mac. Why not?

As for speed, my cube is considerably faster than the IIci's you are so fond of
comparing them to. I have not used Quadras for very long, but I have never 
gotten any impression of blazing speed. Basically, I think that Quadras have
a lot of horsepower that never gets used, in most cases.

I have absolutely no complaints about the speed of display postscript. And I
have a penchant for things graphical. (programming & images)

The absolute WORST thing about your post is your stupid argument regarding DOS.
It's like saying "You say that that Diablo is better than my Corvette. Well,
I don't agree. And anyway, my vette can blow the doors of of a Trabant"

The entire issue of speed will be negated soon anyway. Hopefully, HP
will want a NeXTSTEP port. Then you'll see NeXTSTEP running on a $7k Snake
workstation doing 39 Specmarks. (The 33Mhz NeXT does less than half that.)

And if HP doesn't, well the PA Snake chips are in the running for use in the
NeXT Risc workstation. 

I'm drooling already. And I'll never go back.

--
Jonathan W. Hendry
Drexel University College Of Information Studies
Anderson Financial Systems "Programmer-in-Exile" :)
<set loose the marmosets!>