HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Shoot to Kill?
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:12:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ed Hopper's BBS - Berkeley Lake, GA - 404-446-9462
Reply-To: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 

>I was chatting with a friend the other day, and for whatever reason we
>were talking about the Army.  So, I remembered this little blurb I had h
>long time ago - basically, that guards/MP at Fort Leavenworth were order
>to shoot to kill escaping prisoners.  And here's the kicker - if the pri
>escaped, the guard had to serve out the rest of the prisoner's sentence.

My brother-in-law was an MP in the late 50's, and he had to escort
prisoners to court and to the stockade.  He was solemnly reassured that
he would serve the time of any prisoner that escaped.  Bring 'em in
dead if you have to, but bring 'em in.  No prisoner ever escaped from
him or anyone he served with, and no one was willing to find out what
*would* happen if one did escape.

One guy I know is now an evangelist, but at one time had 269 years of
time against him.  He bragged that he knew Bonnie and Clyde before they
knew each other - he introduced them to each other.

He explained it this way - a prison is for the purpose of incar-
ceration.  The worst thing you could do in prison is escape.  That
defeats the very concept of incarceration.  The second worst thing you
could do would be to kill the warden.

If you escape from a maximum security institution, the guards take it
very personally because they're gonna take a bunch of heat for it.
They won't have a real strong incentive to bring you in alive.  If you
should "get shot attempting to escape", you're one less slimeball they
have to deal with.  Don't tempt them......
                          
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Legal Tender
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:32:46 GMT

obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien) writes:
: >
: >Nope. In either case, the merchant is allowed to set the conditions
: >of the sale. Until you pay for the merchandise, either party is free
: >to back out of the deal. If you want to pay, using a method that is
: >not acceptable to the merchant, the merchant is free to back out of
: >the deal by simplly refusing to accept the payment. 
: 
: Now, if I take some friends to the aforementioned Denny's, and we total
: up, say, $48.50, then they don't want my (who's that? uh.. Grant, yeah!)
: $50 bill, and refuse to accept it.  Well, since most of my friends are
: the type that could appreciate AFU, we would certainly offer to return
: the goods...

By ordering and consuming the food, you are agreeing to pay for the meal
in a form acceptable to the semi-fast food joint. If you have any doubts,
then it is your duty to check before you order and eat.

The restaurant could refuse your payment method, however - it is not worth
the bother or possible publicity to them to do so.

: I've tested this a few times.  In my experience, if the sign says:
: "Bills larger than $20 not accepted" or the equivalent, what it *really*
: means is they have a drop-safe and can't get a $20 for your change.
: It's just too complicated to say "We can't make change over $20"

I have, once or twice, eaten at a place that had a sign that said "No
checks accepted". When I was done eating, I paid by check. They told me
that they didn't accept checks - I informed them that all I had was my
checkbook. Either I could write them a check, or they could trust me to
find a place to cash a check and then come back and pay them. They took
the check.

Bill
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Courgettes (was Re: doggy style)
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:20:31 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Nov9.202523.23043@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> reid@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Robert Reid) writes:
>
>Ok., I've looked this up in two dictionaries and have been unable to find
>a definition for the word courgette. My office mates and I are curious as
>to just what it is.
>
>	thanks 

courgettes are approximately, if not exactly, the same thing as zuccini. does
that help? courgette is the french word for them. enjoy your new-found vocab.
word...

rachel "the human vegetable" perkins

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Toilet paper: over or under?
Organization: a2i network
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:57:42 GMT

Sheesh.  We single guys just sit the roll on top of the crapper where it
belongs.
-- 
Phil Gustafson <phil@rahul.net>
From: timi@mendel.berkeley.edu ( Tim Ikeda)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 01:04:29 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: mendel.berkeley.edu

From: mrice@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Matt Rice):
>Apparently, research was done using modified polio viruses, and they
>were tested in Africa.  The charge was that these modified viruses mutated
>into what is now the (two, three?) strains of the HIV virus.
>
>The only way this could be checked was to thaw out samples kept from that
>research.  A review board was set up by somebody (CDC?) over the summer, and
>preliminary conclusions are that these charges are a bunch of hooey.


Even simpler to check than noted.  Polio virus is nothing like HIV
family of retroviruses.  It would be equivalent to having frogs
mutate into golden retrievers.

The polio virus belongs to the picorna virus family (including
cold viruses and hepatitis A).  It's replication is straight 
RNA-to-RNA.  Retroviruses, which include the HIV family, replicate
through a DNA intermediate (RNA-to-DNA-to-RNA).  The life cycles of
these two families are very distinct.  As would be expected, their
respective genomes are quite different as well.

"Hooey" for sure.

Regards,
Tim Ikeda
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: doggy style
	<1992Nov4.113533.7206@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 08:14:24 -0400

In <1992Nov4.113533.7206@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, Henry Bloomfield writes:
>
>The aunt of a friend of mine (AOAFOM) worked in a hospital as a
>nurse and someone once came in with a courgette stuck up his
>bottom. His excuse? - He "fell over while cooking"! (So: He was
>cooking naked. He fell over backwards. There was a courgette
>standing up on the floor....).

someone once brought a cat to my vet's (where i work), with sewing thread 
hanging out of its behind.  xrays showed a sewing needle in its belly.  this
is not uncommon in cats, who will eat thread and string.  surgery was 
required to remove it, since thread tangled in a cat's inside can cause 
nasty damage.  the cat recovered.


and now the punch line:  the cat's owner was convinced that the needle and
thread got into the cat's belly because "he sat on it".


little "i wonder what the cat's owner was in the habit of sitting on" gator
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
From: rcm@col.hp.com (hpctdfc)
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:01:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Don't ask me, I'm Lost!

> >By the way, what does the middle initial 'T' in ATM stand for?

T=Teller

> What does the middle initial 'T' in FTP stand for?

T=Transfer

Better luck next time.
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From: saxe@proline.cs.unc.edu (Eddie Saxe)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.materials
Subject: How to shut down the net: (was: Re: Kryptonite bike locks)
Summary: Isn't it nice how we came full circle?
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:06:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <1992Nov4.103151.12144@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> snyder@henry.ece.cmu.edu (John Snyder) writes:

>O.K., I'll show my ignorance.  What does AFU stand for?

Hmmmm...good question.  As far as can be determined, it is the second half of
the ever so popular acronym, SNAFU:  Situation Normal All Fouled Up (or
F*ck*d Up, for you purists).  It represents the status of Alt.Folklore.Urban,
namely, all fouled up.

ObUL:  I heard that Craig Shergold bought a cookie recipe for two fifty.

Eddie "Was it lil' gator's cat-s**t cookie recipe?" Saxe
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Courgettes (was Re: doggy style)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:55:16 GMT

srn@cs.su.oz.au (Stephen Robert Norris) writes:
: 
: 	This is apparently true - my father is a chemist here at sydney uni,
: and they have strict rules about the NMR machines (btw NMR = Nuclear Magnetic
: Resonance - which is what medical people call MRI - why I don't know - does 
: anyone - I gues it's cause they think the word nuclear will make people think
: they are going to be irradiated :) ).  These rules include banning welders
: from the machines since they get small particles of metal behind there eyes.

They use MRI because the politician have trouble pronouncing the word. During
the recent election campaigns here in the US - just about all of the politicos
pronounced the work "nucular".

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Port Out Starboard Home -- That's the Life for ME!
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 04:02:11 GMT

In article <9162@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw+@pitt.edu writes:
>
>Terry "Does anybody know what IBM and DEC stands for?" Wood

Itty Bitty Machines and Doing Everything Clumsily.

cjl
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: dechc00@tohi.DMI.USherb.Ca (CHRISTIAN DECHAMPLAIN)
Subject: Re: doggy style
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et
	d'Informatique
	<1992Nov4.113533.7206@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:18:09 GMT


I heard the same story.  The courgette was played by a bottle of body on tap
shampoo.  The action took place in the shower.  The source was a MOAFOM
(mother of a friend of mine) which of course was a nurse.

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From: billmcc@seanews.akita.com (Bill McCormick)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Keywords: cia,mj12,bush,morgetheau,rothschild
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:29:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: seanews.1992Nov13.052956.22100
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News & Mail

In article <8524.10055@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM> lpb@florida.swdc.stratus.com (Len Bucuvalas) writes:
>I beileive it was yet according to the research I have read it
>is quite nearly impossible to make a vaccine for a retrovirus.
>The vaccine muct be made from an inactive virus and a
>retrovirus of the type HIV seats itself in the spinal nervous
>system and begins to replicate *active* clone sof itself
>programemd to smother the T4 cell...at least that is what I
>have read.

Hmm.  Isn't canine Parvo a retro-virus?  What about feline
distemper (or perhaps rhinotracheitis)?  That is too, I believe.

All of these have vaccines available...

Bill
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.conspiracy
From: wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Trilateral commission
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:29:47 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1dg4ilINNjsk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aq817@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Crocker) writes:
[...]
]                    NORTH AMERICAN MEMBERS                   
[...]
] Bill Clinton, Governor of Arkansas.                         
[...]
] Dianne Feinstein, Former Mayor of San Francisco.            

    Oh, WHAT?  Wasn't Barbara Boxer GOOD ENOUGH for your CONSPIRACY?

    Hmmph.  (Does anyone know if the Freemasons let women join?)

                                           -- Bill K.

Bill Kaufman,          | "People look better under arrest,...it gives you
wkaufman@us.oracle.com |  an aggressive fashion look."  -- John Waters
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: reid@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Robert Reid)
Subject: Re: Courgettes (was Re: doggy style)
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:25:23 GMT


Ok., I've looked this up in two dictionaries and have been unable to find
a definition for the word courgette. My office mates and I are curious as
to just what it is.

	thanks 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: starfish@stein.u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky)
Subject: Re: Microwave Death
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:16:44 GMT

egilmour@ac.dal.ca writes:

>I'm really not sure if this story is true urban folklore
>as  I am certain I read it in the newspaper.  

Har har.  Motto of the nanosecond.

>The story was about an 
>employee in a submarine sandwich shop who rigged a microwave so that 
>it would continue to work even when he
>opened the door etc...supposedly as it would take less time to heat up the subs 
>if he didn't have to continue to set the timer and so on.
>As he continued to use the microwave in this manner, after
>about three hours he died suddenly.  Apparently he had cooked his intestines.

>I guarantee that I read this in the paper.

Which paper was this, the National Enquirer (or similar tabloid)?  This seems
to be an interesting combination of two UL's, if memory serves me correctly.
The "cooked intestines" part relates to the too-much-fake-and-bake (time at
the tanning bed), and the whole microwave thing can basically be considered
part of a CLASS of UL's.  (Microwave vs. doggy, microwave vs. pacemaker,
microwave vs. stupid sub shop employee...)

And no, two UL's don't make a fact...

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: styri@balder.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: HIt by lightning - Yeah, sure
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 23:00:19 GMT

chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov (Chuck Adams) writes:
: 
: This brings up an interesting point......does anyone know the odds of being
: struck by lightning, that is like Hans where HE actually got hit......I
: understand that something like 80 people or so get hit in the US every year,
: thats 80 out of 250 million.  So how many folks that read this newgroup have
: been hit?  That could really scramble your diodes, Phil if it happened to you!

When I was about 6 the lightning struck our garage, just 100' from me.
Dunno how many Europeans struck by lightning each year though. The good
fun, however, is flying through a thunderstorm. Guess I'm the kind of
person who'd apply for job being host in the electricity show at Boston
Science Museum.

---
YuNoHoo
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From: wbrown@access.digex.com (William Brown)
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:57:13 GMT

Some facts about HIV, since it seems to be the topic of the day:

a)  We have no effective vaccines against ANY retroviruses.  It is not
surprising  that we are having a devil of a time developing one for AIDS. 
It is VERY hard for one to produce a vaccine against an organism that
incorporates itself into the host genome and can replicate every time the
host cell divides without going throught the traditional viral replication
process.  This fact seems to be lost on the general public, which assumes
that it is equally feasible to produce a vaccine against AIDS as it is
against, say measles.  Unfortunately, it's not even close.

b)  There is a slightly different strain of AIDS in Africa.  In addition,
there are "helper viruses", viruses that aid in the infectivity of the
AIDS virus, that are present for totally unrelated reasons in Africa.  The
name of the helper virus escapes me at the moment, but I believe it is
associated with Burkitt's lymphoma (a cancer of the blood prevalent in
young Africans) 

c)  There is another helper virus (damn - I gotta look up the names again)
in the Carribean, that is gaining in prevalence (all we need... :-(  )

d)  Although the AIDS infectivity rate is high in the IV drug user and
homosexual populations in the U.S. (and rising quickly in ALL other U.S.
populations) the United States has less than 10% of the worldwide AIDS cases.

e)  The amount of research money geared for AIDS is IN NO WAY adequate for
the magnitude of the problem.  There have been only three diseases to fit
the definition of "plague" in the modern (recorded history) era:  Plague
itself (agent: Yersinia pestis), Smallpox, and AIDS.  Of the three, AIDS
will undoubtably kill many more humans.

f)  The simian immunodeficiency virus has decimated entire populations of
monkeys in various parts of the world, including South America.

g)  As far as infectivity goes, for a virus, AIDS is hard to catch. 
Unfortunately, since it's much harder to detect without a Western blot or
ELISA test, it is having a field day with humans.


    Last semester over 60% of my patients were HIV-positive.  Of that 60%,
at least 80% were IV drug users.  In many ways I find the "source of AIDS"
discussion irrelevant to the issues we must address today.  Even IF (and I
mean IF) the U.S. government DID "engineer" AIDS (see my previous post) it
won't bring anyone back to life.  Prevention, treatment, and cure, would
seem to be much more important issues to me. 


Peace

Bill

P.S.  I don't mean to imply that the history of AIDS should not be
investigated - it should, for many reasons.  I just think much, MUCH more
investigation into prevention, treatments, and cures should be held.
From: bierbach@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Nickles (was Canadian pennies)
Date: 8 Nov 92 14:29:37 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Nov7.235007.19495@engage.pko.dec.com>, moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
> In article <1992Nov7.191456.23514@midway.uchicago.edu>, pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson) writes...
>>The original poster was implying that there was something "loony" (as
>>in, not sane) about having a circulating coin meeting those criteria.
>> 
>>I merely pointed out that the US dime, which has a long and distiguished
>>history of circulation, and is not viewed as a goofy coin by any means,
>>meets, essentially, those criteria.
> 
> Dimes 'cheated' to get accepted.  They were originally 90% silver, which
> the public considered worth more than a copper penny or a copper-nickel
> nickel.  Also dimes are more different from pennies than Sues are from
> quarters, as they are thinner and a different color.
> 
>>Of course, the Susie B meets them as well.  But I have never understood
>>people's dislike of the Susie B.  I think they are cool, and I expect
>>that people who cannot distinguish between them and quarters are
>>probably the same people who never figured out how to record on their VCRs.
> 
> They should have made them a little more different anyway.  Make them out of
> a gold-colored alloy such as many foreign coins are, put a different milling
> on the edges, make the 13 "sides" on them real.
>>I still use them whenever I can.
> 
> I saw them exactly 3 times in circulation when they came out and never (in
> circulation) since.
> 
> Too bad, we need a $1 coin.

Whatever happened to that "copper dollar" coin that was supposed to 
come out at the beginning on 1992? I remember reading something a 
couple of years ago that Congress had passed a bill authorizing it for 
the 500th anniversary of Columbus' landing, and on one side it was 
supposed to have a picture of Christopher Columbus.  

I was bummed when I never saw any.


-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: wisp@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Wisp)
Subject: Re: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 10:29:17 GMT

In article <flar.721172242@vincent2.iastate.edu> flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage) writes:
>In <BxD6IJ.6Bo@rahul.net> phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>
>>In article <flar.721161426@vincent2.iastate.edu> flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage) writes:
>>>Hellow,
>>>
>>>I've been following this group for a few days, and have decided to have
>>>one of my students do a speech for competition on urban ledgends.
>
>>You might start by teaching your students to spell "hello" and "legend".
>>Sheesh.  All this unemployment, and this Bradley guy still has a job?
>
>>Phil "Hey, you thought snopes was mean.  For the time being, you're
>>stuck with an extremely nasty Phil" Gustafson
>>--
>>Phil Gustafson <phil@rahul.net>
>
>Yup, that's is the problem with this fucking net, a silly typo and the
>flames come in numbers.  Well excuse me Mr. Jack ASS, Oh, did I spell
>that right?????  Sheezzee, give a bad typist a break or just don't post,
>I mean, that was pretty silly, two typos and here you go.  Who the hell
>are you????
>
>All I wanted was some information, if you don't have it, don't post, if
>you have nothing inteligent to say, say nothing, and excuse any more
>typos!           ^^^^^^^^^^
>
>I thought spelling flaming went out a long time ago, with the advent of
>inteligence!!!
 ^^^^^^^^^^^

Now you're doing that deliberately, aren't you?    ;-)

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