From: acs_mogged@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: Miniatures...
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:59:33 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls


	On my system this didn't get through so I will repost my message.  
Mistakes do happen......

>>   Just a simple question...how many or you TORGers 
>> uses miniatures figures in your playing, for combat and
>> such?

	I run a campaign and play in a campaign.  I (as a gm) don't really
care for miniatures only when we get in REALLY big battles I do get my
minatures out.  But my friend Schomburg always insist on using miniature even
for the battles that he knows will only last for a round........  Well, it
wouldn't be that bad if one of us had the updated movement rules(or any
miniature rules at all), but we both refuse to buy the Vehicle guide for just
five pages of rules.....  The effect is if you follow the base movement rules
you can say I walk across a stadium(pratically) over to my opponent, get into
unarmed combat range, and rip his throat out in one action.

	The miniatures that we use in campaign are some watchman figures(they
make some cool nile miniatures), billions of Star Wars figures, some Judge
Dreed characters, and some of the official Torg Miniatures (oohhh).

	The Torg miniatures are pretty good for detail.  The packages(that have
two miniatures in it) are supposed to be theme so put "simular" character from
the books for example Father Bryce and Mara.  But it is almost always setup to
give you some really cool character, and then some reject.  For example when
you buy Gaunt Man it comes with Gibberfat a miniature that is smaller than my
pinkie's fingernail.  We have lost Gibberfat many times (once we lost
Gibberfat in one of his padded miniatures boxes it took us a hour to find the
miniature in his box!!).  Another theme package was Kurst and Djil in one
package I had to buy #@$*#@ Djil to get Kurst (Kurst looks like one of the
best Dire/were wolves miniature I have EVER seen).  When we went to GenCon at
talked to West End Games we complained about how long it took for them to
release the miniatures.  

	The claim was the the artist who was doing the Torg miniatures was
perfectionist and he wanted to make sure everything was correctly to scale and
look correctly.  Unfortunately, I saw two miniatures that were "looked wrong". 

1) Thratchen had his wings expanded given a bigger/threat look than what he
is.
2) Moebius (even after painting) head looked very strange we couldn't figure
out what was wrong until we realized the artist thought he was look up through
his hood(center his eyes through the infinity symbol) then it look right...

	That is my experience in with Torg Miniatures....  Sorry for being so
wordy once I get talking about a subject I keep on going and going and
going...
	As always ignore all spelling and grammer mystakes (It's actully a
spell that is cast on your terminal to cause confusion to people reading my
messages)

	Brian.s.Mogged@uwrf.edu

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