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Subject: Re: new transponder requirements
From: jrs@petrel.dsto.gov.au (John Stobie)
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:20:34 CST
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<mt_hugo@fencer.cis.dsto.gov.au> () writes: - in summary,
about mandatory carriage and use of transponders for users of class E airspace
as detailed in the CAA's October Aviation Bulletin.
---
  
The question is,
What return is there to the sports aviator for this <SAFETY DOLLAR> ?
 
From the AvBulletin the traffic information available to VFR on VFR
by flight service is given <<as far as practical>> .
   
There are no crash statistics to support carriage of transponders. 
To my knowledge there have been no air to air accidents between gliders
and powered aircraft above 5000ft.
Of the three air to air accidents that have occured, these were below 
5000ft, two were in the circuit area <outside E space>
and the third was between two gliders also <outside E space>.
    
The only groups to benefit from this requirement are SAL and IFR
operators as they will get traffic information as a matter of course by FS.
SAL operations are usually above 10 000ft and glider traffic
would rarely be a problem. However IFR Charter usually operate 5k-10kft.

A possible solution is to have gliders adopt VFR radio procedures and TALK
when there is a possible confict. To get traffic information from FS
when you would have conservatively 50 aircraft between gawler and pt
augusta
in ADDITION to the regular traffic. All on a good summers day would result
in continuous radio chatter on traffic. and where could a hang glider
or ultra light pilot who is as close to the airflow as you can get
write this traffic info down.

cross countries in south australia's mid and far north below 5000ft AMSL 
would give a working height as small as 3000ft. 
I can see lots of outlanding practice coming up.

anyone else for comment!

cheers
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Newsgroups: aus.photo
From: milica@runx.oz.au (Milan Durovic)
Subject: slow sync and red eye on Canon EOS 100
Organization: RUNX Un*x Timeshare.  Sydney, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 09:31:26 GMT


Dear netters,

I have recently acquired a Canon EOS 100 (Elan in USA) and gone to Halloween
party in Wonderland to take some nice night photos. I have only a built-in
flash. I wanted to combine flash with longer exposures to include more of 
an attractive background. Unfortunately, I have found out that I have to make
the following choice:

- turn the command dial in the manual mode, pop-up the flash manually, set the
  longer exposure and take the picure. Slow-sync works fine, and the
  foreground and background have a good light balance. If you have people in
  the scene, they'll all have beautiful red eyes, which may suit only
  Halloween.

- turn the command dial in the programmed picture modes. Now I am able to 
  turn on the red-eye reduction lamp (which was impossible in the previous
  case) and have the exposure fixed to either 1/60 or 1/125, meaning bye-bye
  to the attractive background.

When I came home, I checked the manual. Nothing in there says that it is
impossible to turn on the red-eye reduction lamp in creative modes. Does
anyone know how can I do that? I haven't contacted Canon yet. I hope someone
will come up with an answer.


Regards,

Milan

milica@runx.oz.au
From: Bruce.Paterson@f543.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Bruce Paterson)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: History buffs: Unison computers
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 14:01:22 +1000

Andrew,
To my knowledge, even though I haven't worked there for some time,
R2D2 is STILL running !!!!!!!! Also all BP Oil Terminals (eg. BP
ALTONA) and quite a few others are still on Unisons. R2D2 is still
used as a modem handler, a job it seems to do very well and more
consistantly than other newer machines which couldn't be relied on to
answer properly.
                                        Bruce, VK3TJN


 * Origin: John Knox ARC Melbourne Aus. (613) 521 1206 (3:635/543)
From: ina_pearce@actew.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:43:28 EST
Followup-To: aus.followup
Distribution: aus
Organization: ACT Electricity & Water

> 
> If you are a Uni student, doesn't this mean your have over 4 hours of
> study time built in to your day?  If you can spend the train time
> doing reading etc which you would otherwise have had to do at home,
> the train doesn't look so bad.  And on top of that you get an hour
> per day of exercise!
> 
> Of course, you also have to get up two hours earlier than by car. :-(
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study on a train??? get real - have you ever ridden on a nsw train?

Drew.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (Ian Staples)
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:02:35 GMT

In article <dfoott.61@fcit-c1.fcit.monash.edu.au> dfoott@fcit-c1.fcit.monash.edu.au (David Foott) writes:


[Most stuff deleted]

>several hundred hectares of wind or solar generators.
>
Has any physicist/meteorologist ever calculated energy usage worldwide as
a proportion of available wind power?  There was a time when people thought
of the oceans as infinite and therefore not affected by the garbage dumped
in them.  It hasn't turned out that way, has it?  So I've often wondered
about wind power...if we extract enough to run civilisation, will that
eventually have some effect on climate, or even just local weather?

Seeing that wind power is basically a function of solar energy input, most
likely there is no need for concern.  But it would be interesting to have
an estimate of the relative magnitudes of total wind power and total energy
consumption.

Ian S.


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From: Matthew Hall <mjhall@socs.uts.edu.au>
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: Reader's Digest Sweepstakes
Date: 4 Nov 1992 07:13:26 GMT
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Ian Staples, ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au writes:
>As for the "Sweepstakes", early in my time on their database (about 1968 in 
>fact) I won a "barbeque", made out of recycled condensed milk tins judging
   [ description of BBQ deleted ]
>thing about the episode is that I had no recollection of actually entering
>anything at the time.  My "prize" and assorted congratulatory crap simply
>turned up one day.  I've returned _many_ "Sweepstakes certificates" in the
>years since then, but nary a sign of another "prize"!

I'll just bet that one of your later returns happened to travel back
to 1968 and win the 'interesting' BBQ.

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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: nick@cs.uwa.oz.au (Nick Lewins)
Subject: Re: Family Tree databases?
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:07:08 GMT

In <1992Nov10.123507.24036@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> 9241170x@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Aaran Stent) writes:
>Does anyone know of on line family tree databases or records from the
>UK.  Please send anything you think might help...

Try the newsgroup "soc.roots".

Nick.
From: Bruce.Paterson@f543.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Bruce Paterson)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: EFTPOS
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 13:30:18 +1000

For the banks which don't let you select your own PIN, the PIN number is
purely derived from a couple of "keys" stored in the ATM and your card
number (using DES). This is why ATM's used to be able to approve
transactions even when offline. If you notice, the PIN approval is very
quick, whereas the ACCOUNT BALANCE (for whatever reason) can take an age !

For banks which let you select your own PIN, they either go back to the
central computer for PIN approval, or they write a "nonsense" number on
Track 2 of the mag card (standard banking use) which when DES encoded
ends up with the selected PIN ??

Can anyone elaborate furthur ?


 * Origin: John Knox ARC Melbourne Aus. (613) 521 1206 (3:635/543)
From: ina_pearce@actew.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:17:50 EST
Followup-To: aus.followup
Distribution: aus
Organization: ACT Electricity & Water

as many people have already pointed out - heavily taxing petrol does not deter
but does penalise many who have to use their cars, people taking holidays,
transporting of goods etc etc

the canberra government uses a different deterrent for people driving to work
and back by making people pay to park in town.

this has forced me to use public transport even though it only takes me 10
minutes to drive to work but 35 minutes (plus wating time) by bus. But I just
cannot afford to pay $4 a day to park in town.

Drew.
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: ash@syacus.acus.oz.au (Ash Nallawalla)
Subject: Re: Reader's Digest Sweepstakes
Organization: Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Melbourne
Distribution: aus
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 11:07:11 GMT

brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) writes:

>So, it looks like these prizes are for real and you can get off their mailing
>list.  Just be nice about it :-)

Yes, I can confess to being a winner of a minor prize some years ago.
About $10 or $15 I think.  The minor prizes are real, and I have no
reason to doubt the others are too.  One of the trade journals did
a detailed story about the RD mainframe and how it is used to track
customers and their spending patterns.
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From: rcgaym@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Angus Y. Montgomery)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Date: 6 Nov 1992 08:11:48 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
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s900387@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Craig Macbride) writes:

>timbomb@cs.uq.oz.au (Tim Mansfield) writes:

>Of course, these cities have much higher population densities. In a city like
>Melbourne, the public transport system is already making a gigantic loss. There
>are simple not enough people to provide a system of the efficiency you would
>like, all day, every day, without it being prohibitively expensive.

oh, and the roads board makes a resounding profit?

part of the problem of the perception of "the cost of public transport"
lies in the differing evaluation of road-works and public-transport works.
no-one expects a road to make a profit.

you also ignore the extra costs involved in the road industry:
 -pollution (gases from the cars, noise, environmental damage caused by
	     oil mining, all the rusting cars inhabiting scrap yards and
	     tips)
 -accidents
 -policing
 -red tape

>The attempt to force people to use public transport in a sprawling city
>like this is futile. An attempt to produce more efficient cars would have
>far more merit.

yep, that's right, lie back and think of the queen.
this is _victoria_ after all.
merit. ha.

 . a n g u s .

Newsgroups: aus.general
From: bambi@bu.oz.au (David J. Hughes)
Subject: Re: 11-11-92
Organization: ITS, Bond University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:40:44 GMT

u8706558@cs.uow.edu.au (Sean Volke) writes:

>Today marks the day why Australia should be a republic.
>Commiserations to one and all.


Yawn .....

I hope you are one of the "so few" and not one of the "so many"


bambi
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From: harold@cs.uq.oz.au (Andrew Wood)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:12:56 GMT
Reply-To: harold@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1992Nov5.050053.18975@bohra.cpg.oz.au> als@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Anthony Shipman) writes:

>>In <chrisp.720868071@kultarr> chrisp@cs.uwa.oz.au (chris pudney) writes:
>>>Most of the vehicles on the roads are cars transporting (<=2) people.  
>>>If we eliminated these, such that mainly bulk vehicles, buses and trucks,  
>>>were on the roads then we'd have far less traffic.

>>  Hmm. People say this a lot. But if I am the only person in the city who
>>wants to go from Uni to Pallarenda (learn some Townsville geography folks),
>>then it is damn difficult to convince me to use public transport to do it as
>>there is none. I think we should remember that private cars are the most
>>efficient form of public transport for low volume routes :-).

>This is right and proper.  Private transport is the only general solution for
>getting from A to B.  Public transport should be used as an optimisation
>technique for improving the efficiency on heavily travelled routes.

I think that we are arguing an academic extreme here! 
Any proposal that states that cars should be abolished is nonsensical
in our society. However, the reduction of the use of cars is not.

It is not practical in the Australian urban sprawl to supply FAST regular
public transport to the front door of every house, or even to the end of the
street. It is however possible to provide quality mass transportation to
major centres or hubs. Access to hubs can be achieved using a smaller
scale of public transport, or by riding or by driving.

It should not be necessary to commute long distances in your car.

>People who try to penalise private transport in order to force people to
>use public transport are implicitly admitting the failure of public transport
>to provide an attractive (ie useful) alternative.

Public transport can never supply the door to door convenience of the 
personal car.  However, private transport is also a failure. 
Why?

How much money has been invested in major roadworks in your city in the last
30 years?      Lots! 

Has this (massive) investment actually reduced traffic problems?
No, try commuting to the centre of any major city in Aus during peak hour
and see the results yourself.

What would be the situation if a comparable amount of money and planning
had been applied to public transport over the same time period?

Public transport cannot compete because it has been maimed by the 
freeway oriented culture of our cities. 

Andrew
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From: daniel@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:17:19 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

In <1dqdaoINN79k@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> s900387@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Craig Macbride) writes:

>Notice how low the price of inner-city office space is in Melbourne? Lots
>of people have finally realised that there are very few advantages to
>running offices in the city. If the employers move to the suburbs and
>employ people who are (or move to be) mainly in the same area, this whole
>silly situation of people driving ludicrous distances every day can be
>avoided without any of the nasty methods (taxing petrol, higher-density
>living) mentioned in this discussion so far.

Ah, but this doesn't happen. For instance, when Coles-Myer moved out of
Melbourne to Toronga, the numbers of people commuting by car shot up,
and the numbers by public transport fell. A company is just not going to
hire people who happen to live near their office.

Also, developments away from the city cost a LOT in new infrastructure,
such as new phone lines, power, sewerage, to cope with the influx of
people. The city already has these. Thus, every time a company relocates
out of the city, the cost goes to the entire community.

A point raised recently that caught my attention: Don't ban cars from
the CBD, because the people who will get most annoyed are the 5% of
office execs in their nice Mercs. They make the decisions, and they
may well be ticked off enough to relocate their offices, taking the
other 95% of workers, who travel by public transport, with them.


Daniel Bowen
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From: harold@cs.uq.oz.au (Andrew Wood)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:18:28 GMT
Reply-To: harold@cs.uq.oz.au

In <6688@otc.otca.oz> brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) writes:

>timbomb@cs.uq.oz.au (Tim Mansfield) writes:
>>As long as the tram/train/bus whatever is frequent and regular, there's very 
>>little excuse for using a car. In many cities in the world (London, Paris,
>>New York), people only use cars when travelling out of town.

>Yes, these cities do have very good public transport.  They also (as someone
>else pointed out) have much higher population densites than any Australian
>city.

Here is a stat that was posted to rec.bicycles a while back.

Interestingly in London, it is estimated (by the Department of Transport - 
who should know) that the average speed, at any time of day, is now 
8mph... the same as 100 years ago with the horse and cart !

I don't know how they calculated it, but the idea is worthy of thought.

Andrew
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From: waohe@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (WA Office of Higher Education)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Lyn Dawson
Date: 9 Nov 1992 11:19:48 +0800
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Re: NLP

I've tried to post direct, but it appears that we're not linked

Jeff Oliver
waohe@uniwa.uwa.edu.au

Newsgroups: aus.general,monash.general
From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: 1992 Australian MicroMouse Contest
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:07:50 GMT

anthony@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Anthony Baxter) writes:

>In <jwb.720829632@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au> jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen) writes:

>>(d) successfully move from the maze start to the goal square (i.e. solve
>>the maze) (48%)

>>Two of the teams had set themselves the limited (b) and (c) goals on the 
>>day, but most set out to attempt all stages. It was clear from the
>>beginning that the mice with overhanging sensor arrays were going to fare
>>better than those with the more challenging sideways sensors. None of this
>>latter group actually reached the goal, although one only crashld a few
>>squares away, and was awarded a (d) achievement.

>Much as I hate to contradict my own head of department :-) this is
>incorrect. Magellan, with its 6 side looking sensors, solved the maze
>easily, although the herringbone (*) caused a few nervous moments.

Yes, I have had several irate members of the Magellan team take me to task on
this. I realise that Magellan is a hybrid that has both types of sensors,
but I was under the impression that it was using its overhanging
sensors in the trial. I am now informed that the program running at the time
was not using those sensors.

Well done.


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From: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:37:36 GMT
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In article <1992Nov9.172130.109@actew.oz.au> ina_pearce@actew.oz.au writes:
>In article <Gary.Woodman.814.721279807@anu.edu.au>, Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.
au (Gary Woodman) writes:>> In article <1992Nov6.161750.107@actew.oz.au> 
ina_pearce@actew.oz.au writes:>> 
>>>this has forced me to use public transport even though it only takes me 10
>>>minutes to drive to work but 35 minutes (plus wating time) by bus. But I just
>>>cannot afford to pay $4 a day to park in town.
>> 
>> You could try a motorbike - easy (generally free) to park, no waiting, fun & 
>> games generally. Except in winter, which is not much fun at the best of 
>> times, but is it any worse than standing in the rain waiting for a bus?
>> 
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>
>you forgot to add very economical. I do have a bike license and used to ride
>for years when I lived in Sydney.

Well, I'm telling you nothing then. I'm only posting on the off chance 
that I can assist someone else to reach enlightenment. :-)

>as you pointed out it was a pain in the ass in the rain and especially hail,
>but you forgot to add the constant watching out for idiot car drivers who
>refuse to look or obey the simplest road rules (and I'm not one of the idiot
>bike-riders who tail-gates, rides in the blind-spot etc).

OK, I forgot to add dangerous. That's the traffic, not the bike. Of course 
you're not suggesting that car drivers shouldn't be constantly watching out 
for idiots who... [insert large virtual blank space here, and fill in]

>also being so cold here in Canberra (and with such unpredictable weather) it
>does restrict when you can ride a bike to a very short period of the year.

Speak for yourself, mate. I've ridden about 15km to and from work just about 
every day for 18 months now, except when it wasn't possible or sensible. You 
or anyone could do the same with the right bike and the right gear.

Of course my idea of what's sensible probably varies quite a bit from that 
of others, but I'm just making a suggestion... followups to aus.motorcycles.

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