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From: kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes)
Subject: Re: crabs (was Re: Changing standards of female beauty)
Keywords: nit wit
Organization: Thinkage Ltd.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:59:48 GMT

In article <73264@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>Steve Dyer writes:
>>Ken Dykes writes:
>>>she suggested "Nix" Creme Rinse for Head Lice.
>>>Permethrin 1% (w/w)
>>>it worked. one blast.
>>
>>Nix is available OTC in the US, but it's only officially approved
>> for head lice (i.e., use on kids).  It undoubtedly works on crabs too,
>
>It definitely works.  The nice thing is that it apparently either
>kills *all* the nits, or it persists long enough to kill them
>after they hatch, because the "one treatment" part is played up
>on the box -- convenience, don't you know.

of course the worst part of the ordeal was consulting the pharmacist. :-)

normally, you go in, ask for Kwell or whatever by name, swift transaction
and you are out. most wont recognize the drugname, others who do would assume
these are "simply" crabs we are talking about...
now imagine...

biker looking dude (approx a B8 f+) wanders in to drugmart towards pharmacist.
accessorize biker with leather and helmet in hand.
a couple other customers are within earshot.
biker says in not-a-wisper to pharmacist essentially:

  i have crabs that _just wont_ die.


i know it's a silly insecurity at a drugstore, but the way i handle
insecurity is theatrically.
i still dont know if the pharmacist's suppressed grin was at my statement
itself, or the fact she had a much better view of the other customer's
reactions.

of course i continued with more details of my problem before the Nix
recommendation. (ie: kwellada failed, the beard/head were the persistent
areas, i suspected the nits)

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov.bitnet (Jim Wylde)
Subject: Re: Gay-bashing (Snappy comebacks to assholes)  
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory 
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:14:42 GMT

In article <C0JLpy.Mvo@ecf.toronto.edu> ambidge@ecf.toronto.edu (Chris Ambidge) writes:
>Jim had some snappy come-backs for when loud people yell "faggot!" or
>the equivalent at us in the streets.  I'm filing  these away for
>future reference (though I must admit,  I don't often get yelled at...)

[misc. stuff removed for clarity]

>
>To these I would add:
>
>	"FAGGOT!"
>	"Really?  Me TOO!"
>

Touche'!!

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From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Arne Adolphson, Mormon At Large
Date: 12 Jan 1993 11:57:29 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1993Jan12.123541.5095@sun0.urz.uni-heidelberg.de> 
gsmith@lauren.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Gene W. Smith) writes:
> In article <1ishnaINNckn@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu
> (adolphson) writes:
>
> >*Mormon* at large?  Heavens.
>
> "Moron" did not seem very apt, so I changed it.

I think I'd rather be called a "moron" than a "Mormon",
but I appreciate the sentiment.  I think.

> >I take it that Mikhail finally honored his debt?
>
> The Deadbeat?  The Deadbeat is still claiming to have an actual
> *argument*, and name-dropping as usual.

"Name-dropping"?  That doesn't even come close to describing
what he does (see Elisabeth Bergner's _Bewundert viel und
viel gescholten...Unordentliche Erinnerungen_ for an example
of someone who engages in ordinary name-dropping).  Mikhail 
has taken name-dropping to a ludicrous extreme.

And his "argument"!

> It is too bad there isn't a kind of museum or zoo for completely
> preposterous "arguments", though.  I would donate his.  I don't know
> if you or anyone was following it,

I followed it.

> but it was awfully funny to see how
> completely silly and brain-damaged a version of what Mikhail seemed to
> be saying I could produce and still get his imprimatur.

Until you'd point out how completely silly and brain-damaged
the "argument" was, when he'd suddenly start to revise the it.
What a loon he is.

Maliciously,
 Arne
From: csabatier@nola.win.net (Conrad J. Sabatier)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Mardi Gras in New Orleans
Date: 7 Jan 1993 12:48:36 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: csabatier@nola.win.net (Conrad J. Sabatier)
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hello out there in Netland!  Just wondering if any soc.motssers are
planning to come down here for Mardi Gras next month.  If so,
would you be interested in getting together?  I'll be taking some
time off from work (an absolute necessity when one lives in the
French Quarter!), so my agenda is very flexible.  Drop me a line
if you'd like to meet, have a few drinks, whatever.  Look forward
to hearing from you!

Conrad

"If you goin' to New Orleans, you oughta go see the Mardi Gras!"
--- Professor Longhair


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From: sbgreene@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Steven Greene)
Subject: Stanford Shopping Center (was Re: Marky M. and Vanity Fair)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:33:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.074416.25926@leland.Stanford.EDU> prufrock@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scot N Gibson) writes:
>In article <mattm-301292164321@mcmelmon.apple.com> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>I find it pretty ironic that there is a shopping center on Stanford
>land that no student could ever possibly afford.  The only thing I
>ever went to was the Woolworths, and they closed it.  Now I just go to
>sales at Macy's.  

How about the Monterey Market?  It was a savior for us kitchen queens,
though I never did understand how they could have the best produce at
the best prices and still pay Stanford Shopping Center rents.

Try moving to New Jersey, and you'll appreciate it all the more.
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From: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: MOW: reservations made!
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:06:39 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: ansible.pubs.stratus.com

Mara Chibnik writes
>Can we grab a time for a soc.motss gathering, and name a place,
>or is it going to be too great a madhouse to manage?

There is a wonderful Mongolian BBQ, in Chinatown, the name of
which escapes me just now.  If people are coming in on
Saturday night, that might be a place to go meet.  if people
are interested, I can look up the name and address.

I can imagine that meeting on Sunday can be tough...maybe somewhere
to the left of the Washington Monument? ;->

*  In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak *
*  because I wasn't a Communist.  Then they came for the Jews, and I *
*  didn't speak because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade *
* unionists, and I didn't speak because I wasn't a trade unionist... *
*Then they came for me--and by that time no one was left to speak up.*
*  Rev. Martin Niemoeller     [Why to March on Washington in April]  *
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Character Incursion Alert
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:39:40 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


Soc.motss has its cast of regular characters.  No problem.
Except when it *is* a problem.  Certain folks, well known to
long-time regulars but possibly not to those more recently
arrived, show up from time to time and post loads of drivel.

One is Clayton Cramer.  Others are Arthur Hu, Phil Ronzone,
and Edward Kennedy.  Hu and Kennedy are currently present.
Both are in various ways the victims of delusional obsessions.
I think compassion for them is in order.  But reponding to
them is arguably less in order.  They are just talking, not
listening, so responding is a null act, apart from the clutter.

Please help avoid the clutter so we can stay concentrated on
what counts: perfume, dog sex, horrible puns, parade dates,
and desultory political activism.

(Inspirational message No. 27435A-0)

Thank you.

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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Glendale
Date: 9 Jan 93 04:33:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan9.043332.18658
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1993Jan9.015707.10554@gordian.com> mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
>> >Doesn't it have the largest Armenian community outside of Yerevan?  Yum.
>> Racist!  :-)
>  Gad, that angle hadn't even occurred to me. I thought he was talking
>about the food...

!!!!  Ooh, that's funny; when I am confronted with a hairy Armenian,
eating comes to mind, but not food...


-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: MOW: reservations made!
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:59:28 GMT

Mara Chibnik (mara@panix.com) wrote:


: Can we grab a time for a soc.motss gathering, and name a place,
: or is it going to be too great a madhouse to manage?

I'd love to do this Saturday evening (but then that's the only evening I'll
be there).

: If there will be a soc.motss contingent marching, that's terrific
: (and makes a fairly natural meeting ground), but even so there will
: be soc.motssers who figure on marching with contingents from local
: organizations.  (If there are two things that soc.motss is not,
: local and organized are surely those things.)

As of now, I am probably 1/2 of the "local contingent"*.  I may get together
with some people from Cleveland City Country Dancers (the gay square group
I hang out with), but I probably will know, know of, and/or want to meet
motssers.  Even if we don't make up a group of our own for the march, I'd 
like to see some sort of gathering.

* The silence locally on the MOW is deafening.  But I've always considered
the gays of this area apolitical... as I was for years.  I'd love to be
proved wrong, but usually "political events" have to be billed as parties
("ride the bus to the gay pride parade in Columbus... your ticket includes
drinks and sandwiches on the bus..." type stuff).
--
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From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: What to do for NEW YEAR'S EVE in Los Angeles?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:18:41 GMT

In article <72838@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) 
writes:

>Yes, well... Despite the fact that the crowd (and the
>*decorations*!) at the Lone Star were *incredible* on New Bear's
>Eve [spelling intentional], I thought they were a wee bit
>chintzy.... I mean, every other bar I've ever heard of at least
>gives away a glass of cheap champagne at midnight, and the
>Gauntlet II here in LA has free drinks -- that's *anything*
>behind the bar, not just well liquor -- for 15 minutes after
>the New Year begins.

Badlands in Toronto wanted CA$4.50 for a glass of champagne.  A Coca-Cola
was $2.50.  Even after the exchange rate is taken into consideration   
(US$1 ~= CA$1.20), that's ridiculous. 


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From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Another Epithet Discovered (was Re: Do hard times cause hate?)
Date: 10 Jan 93 23:45:11 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

In article <1993Jan10.025515.17636@macc.wisc.edu>,
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> In article <C0I0uE.JEn@cscns.com> cherokee@cscns.com
> (Agv'nige Wohali) writes:
> >To those of you unfamiliar with this term, "digger" is a
> >derisive word for Native American, dating back from the
> >1800's when Shoshoni tribes living around here used sticks
> >to dig up tubers for food.  The connotation is very
> >negative.
> ...
> this is the first time I've heard of "digger" as an epithet.

"Digger" is also a (dated?) term for an Australian,
originating before 1850, in response to the discovery of gold there.
It was applied to Anzac troops in World Wars I and II.
In this sense, I think it's only mildly derogatory, if at all.
I think it's _Private Eye_ magazine
which nicknames Rupert Murdoch "Digger".

Now, something I've noticed here in the last year
is a tendency to use the word "epithet"
as if it necessarily meant a deprecatory term,
rather than just a neutrally descriptive label
(as I understand it to mean).
Am I imagining this?

-- 
Roger Phillips                            roger@quantime.co.uk
"*fad* n. any unimportant belief or practice intemperately urged"
-- Chambers English Dictionary (1988)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: gsmith@polyhymnia.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de (Gene W. Smith)
Subject: Re: Glendale
Organization: IWR, University of Heidelberg, Germany
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:24:13 GMT

In article <thaaang.726566881@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John
Dorrance) writes:

>Is there actually a Boy's Town in a place other than Omaha?

Jahowl!

>I thought Omaha was the only city with one.

If your father thinks you are old enough, he might show you around
some day...

-- 
     Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/IWR/Ruprecht-Karls University 
               gsmith@kalliope.iwr.uni-heidelberg.de
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis)
Subject: Re: For a limited time only
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:30:17 GMT

In article <C0Hqrx.Ft0@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes:
>In <C0Gpu8.J7s@agora.rain.com> bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) writes:
>
>>Unfortunately it also has a couple of cuts from Slim Whitman.
>
>Not to play "Can You Top This", but there _was_ something scarier than
>the Slim Whitman TV ads in the 1970's.
>
>Personal appearances.  With singing demonstrations.  By Slim.

While we're on the topic of sounds we don't want to hear...

Last week, a friend of mine played a tape his friend had made of some
records found in the basement of his house during cleaning/excavations
recently.  It was Mrs. Miller singing "Downtown".  I thought either the
tape or the records had been damaged at some point, but Barry assured
me that, yes, that's what she sounded like and, yes, people bought her
recordings.

Scary.

Brian
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From: carlson@ab24.larc.nasa.gov (Ann Carlson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Geography (was Capitalization, still dubious MOTSS content)
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:38:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
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In article <C0FwEE.G15@panix.com>, mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes: 
|> Brent Davies, brent@syacus.acus.oz.au, contrasts:
|>   >>"I'm from the city."
|>   >>"I'm from the City."
                 ^^^^^^^^^^  (actually, it should be The City - both caps)
|> and asks:
|>   >>In the second example, don't you immediately think of one and *only* one
|>   >>place that could possibly be being referred to?
|> Charlie Fulton <charlie@isis.mit.edu> writes:
|>  >New York City, of course.  New York State is divided into three
|>  >sections: "The City", "Lon Gisland" and "Upstate".
|> 
|> Yeah.  "Upstate" goes about as far up as Albany's northern suburbs.
|> There are people who have heard of Buffalo and Rochester, which
|> really aren't much further north than that.  It was very hard to get
|> used to the idea that where I lived wasn't "Upstate," which ended a
|> good two hundred miles south of where I lived.
|> 

Brent forgot the fourth part of New York.  There's The City, Lon-Guyland,
Upstate *and* The North Country.  Mara and I are from The North Country.
Look on a map, it's just a little south-west of Montreal.
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:08:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan6.040836.7967
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1id78gINN91a@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>> Will it sound like "I had no idea there were so many soap users here"
>> if I say "I had no idea there were so many cologne wearers here"?
>Yes.  

I thought so.

>Arne (I didn't *reek* of cologne during lunch, did I?)

Well, it was distinctly breezy that day, if I remember...
Seriously, I didn't notice.  What _was_ it?
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: paul@psych.toronto.edu (Paul Hastings)
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:02:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.204040.5631@wixer.cactus.org> will@wixer.cactus.org (Bill Staniewicz) writes:
>I recently went shopping for a new bottle of
>cologne and was reminded by the variety of choices
>available. Among those were: Obsession, Drakkar Noir,
>Stetson, Kouros, and Eternity for Men. 
>
>Does anyone have any idea what the most popular
>may be within the gay community. Is there any special
>preference? Are the manufacturers aware of this?
>
Cool Water by Davidoff is my favourite right now.  The new polo (Spirit?)
is popular, and patchoulli (sp?) oil always seems to be wafting around 
Toronto's warehouse parties...
-paul

-- 
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     Hate you.  Hate Kansas.             thing to eat before we end up 
     Taking the dog.                     like the Donner party.
                        Dot.                             Buster Bunny.
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: crabs (was Re: Changing standards of female beauty)
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:38:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan7.033837.14386
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1993Jan7.021608.9723@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>->Steve mentions reading the label (to get the ingredients).
>henry recommends reading the label to get the usage directions; a
>particular harvard community health care "doctor" prescribed something
>for scabies with the wrong directions, and i ended up poisoning myself
>with the stuff (result: red all over for days ... the itching was
>gone, but i looked something like a red-hot pillsbury doughboy).

One very common problem with scabies is that a single properly-
applied treatment kills the mites, but the itching and inflammation
can well continue for a few days.  There is an almost irresistable
inclination to keep applying the scabicide where it itches, and
aside from being a waste of medication, and possibly increasing its
potential for toxicity by absorption thru the skin, these preparations
also have a nasty habit of being irritants and sensitizers, so that
you can end up with a case of chemical dermatitis on top of the itch.
This stuff isn't hydrocortisone--it doesn't stop the itch, so don't
use it as an antipruritic.

Apply it once, wash your used sheets and towels, and worn clothing,
and that's that.  Some paranoids might apply it twice on successive
days, or twice with a few days in between, but even that's rarely
necessary.

-- 
Steve Dyer
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: A not-so-cheery coming out story
Date: 10 Jan 93 21:59:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan10.215900.25330
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <48316@ogicse.ogi.edu> markm@ogicse.ogi.edu (Mark Morrissey) writes:
>This person wasn't friends with you.  He was friends with the person he
>thought you were.  As long as your relationship was played by his rules
>and you hid a fairly large chunk of your persona, he was content.  He
>made sure you knew how he felt about gays and you lived with his prejudice
>on his terms.  However, he has some value to you as a friend and you did
>your best to let him know who *you* are.

Mark and Tom are oh-so-right.  This doesn't make the guy's reaction any
less shocking and hurtful, but it won't be long before this hurt will fade.
You didn't lose a friend, you lost a bigot, one well worth scratching off
your list of people worth spending time with unless he ever reconsiders,
apologizes and proves himself otherwise.  You deserve more than this reaction,
and I wouldn't worry excessively long over losing someone who proves himself
so unworthy of your own friendship.

Listen, if it helps, even in our homophobic society, these kinds of reactions
are very, very rare.  Which doesn't mean that they're non-existent; you got
the moron who proves that fact.

-- 
Steve Dyer
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From: ralphh@cs.athabascau.ca (Ralph Hand)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Cure for Hetrosexuality
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:50:42 GMT


I for one look forward to the cure for homosexuality since it means
that they will also have a cure for hetrosexuality.  Which in my mind
is one of the greatest diseases of the mind going.  Is anyone out
there actively researching the cure for hetrosesuality, I for one
would be willing to work to raise money for such a nobel cause.
(1 % joking)

Ralph
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From: john@drummond.demon.co.uk (John Fisher)