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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: non-natives in Japan
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:02:31 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic) writes:

>In article <1992Jul17.182715.17039@physics.ucla.edu> aoki@physics.ucla.edu (ken aoki) writes:

>>While the paperwork and the time for getting Japanese
>>citizenship is a pain in you-know-where, the neutralization process 
>                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I am afraid to believe what I understand here...

>>in the US is hardly trivial from what I heard. 
>>Dealing with the American INS could be painful

>My god, I was right. You have to renounce to your gender to acquire the US
>citizenship. I hope they do use anaesthetics. Is acquiring the right
>to be American really worth the dismay of not being able to procreate
>anymore? How is one supposed to found a family of patriotic citizens
>with such a handicap, I wonder?

Maybe it's not only newcomers but born-in-Japan Japanese this is
being applied to and this is the reason for the less than 2% birthrate! 

I can hear it now, "Well, honey, I'm a Japanese citizen now. But I'm
sorry to say that when the officer said 'neutralized' I thought it
was just a slip of the tongue.  ... No thanks, I think I'll stand."

Dave

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Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087



Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: russ@howard.nafb.trw.com (Russ Vreeland)
Subject: Learning the Japanese language
Organization: TRW Ballistic Missiles Div. San Bernadino, CA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:58:53 GMT

Hello. Forgive me if this an inappropriate category for this post,
but here's my request:

I would like to learn the Japanese language. I would like to do it
intensively and fast. I live in Temecula, about halfway between
Riverside and San Diego. If anyone has any helpful hints on how I 
should go about doing this they would be most appreciated.

thank you, ----russ.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 21 Jul 1992 19:04:28 CDT
From: Chris Grumboski <U15479@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Periodicals

  Is there anyone out there who has old magazines/comics/books/papers that are
written almost exclusively in katakana or a combination of English and katakana
who would like to send them to me instead of throwing them away?  I don't know
if such things exist but I would like to improve my recognition of katakana
(and hiragana also).  I would pay for postage.  It would be better if these
were at a low beginning reading level.  Thank you.

   Chris

        Please e-mail.
From: mitch@dc49.dc (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Marriage Logistics
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:06:45 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@dc49.dc
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

Anyone care to discuss the legal ramifications regarding immigration, visas,
etc. with respect to American citizens marrying Japanese citizens and planning
on living in the USA?  In particular, is it better to marry in the US and then
apply for a permanent resident visa, marry in Japan, apply first, etc.?  I know
there are plenty of people reading this net who have experience with this.  I
don't plan on it now but...you never know.

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From: tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Re: non-natives in Japan
Date: 21 Jul 92 02:56:13 GMT
Organization: UBS Phillips & Drew Int'l Ltd., Tokyo

In article <1992Jul17.182715.17039@physics.ucla.edu> aoki@physics.ucla.edu (ken aoki) writes:

>While the paperwork and the time for getting Japanese
>citizenship is a pain in you-know-where, the neutralization process 
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I am afraid to believe what I understand here...

>in the US is hardly trivial from what I heard. 
>Dealing with the American INS could be painful

My god, I was right. You have to renounce to your gender to acquire the US
citizenship. I hope they do use anaesthetics. Is acquiring the right
to be American really worth the dismay of not being able to procreate
anymore? How is one supposed to found a family of patriotic citizens
with such a handicap, I wonder?
-- 
 *  __  _  *    Fred "I'll be" Bach  (tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic))
 * ||_ /_| *                                             (Tel. : 813-3597-1595)
 * || /__| *    Arnold, who are you going to be when you grow up ? I'll be Bach
 *         *                Je suis athee, Dieu merci. -B. Bach 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: Hitoshi@jrd.dec.com Doi (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRVowZj9OO1YbKEI=?=doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRVowZj9OO1YbKEI=?=))
Subject: pro baseball: all star games
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-2022-JP
X-Phone-Reply-To: 045-336-5358 (work)/045-320-0492 (home) [in Japan]
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Japan, R&D center
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:42:33 GMT
X-Mts: smtp

The 3 Japanese all star games are now over.

Game 1. Koushien
[my memory is fuzzy and I don't remember all the details]

The Pacific League (PL) defeated the Central League (CL) 6-1.
Nomo (Buffaloes) and Nakada (Tigers) started the game and they both
pitched well.  Nomo's fastball reached 150 kmph and he struck out
5 batters.  The score was 0-0 after 3 innings.
Then Ishii (Buffaloes), Tanabe (Lions), and Sasaki (Hawks) hit
back-to-back-to-back homeruns off of Komatsu (Dragons) and the PL
took a 3-0 lead.  This was the first time in all star history that
3 homeruns were hit in a row.
H.Watanabe (Lions) pitched the middle 3 innings for the PL and shut
out the CL for the win.
Later Ishii drove in 2 more runs and the PL opened up the lead.
The CL's lone run came off of Ikeyama's (Swallows) triple and
a grounder.

Game 2. Chiba

Furuta (Swallows) got a cycle and the CL defeated the PL 6-4.
This was the first time that anyone got a cycle in an all star game.
Furuta opened the game with a triple, and scored on Ikeyama's sacrifice
fly.  In the 3rd inning, Furuta hit a single.  In the 5th inning,
Furuta hit a solo homerun to give the CL a 4-0 lead.  In the 6th inning,
Furuta flied out to right.  Meanwhile the CL had taken a 6-0 lead, and
Okazaki (Giants) had hit a double, triple, and single.  In the 9th
inning Furuta hit a double with 2 outs to complete the cycle.
Okazaki struck out in the 8th inning as he tried for a homerun.
Kuwata (Giants) started the game for the CL and pitched a shutout for
3 innings for the win.  Maeda (Marined) started the game for the PL
and took the loss.
Ishige (Lions) had 3 hits and Ohishi (Buffaloes) hit a two-run homerun
for the PL.

Game 3. Sendai

The CL defeated the PL 4-2 to take this year's all star series.
Makihara (Giants) and Kaneishi (Fighters) started the game and they
both pitched well.  The score was 0-0 after 3 innings.  Then Sasaki
hit his 2nd homerun of the all star games to give the PL a 1-0 lead.
Akahori (Buffaloes) pitched 3 innings of perfect relief in the 4th,
5th, and 6th innings for the PL.
But in the 8th inning Komada (Giants) hit a homerun and Wada (Tigers)
and Maehara (Dragons) drove in runs to give the CL a 4-1 lead.
Kiyohara (Lions) hit a solo homerun in the 9th inning.
--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan                     doi@decvax.dec.com
From: mmrwlm@sn116.uca (Wanda L McCrae)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Culture and Religion (was Re: Japanese Bibl
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:42:54 GMT
Reply-To: mmrwlm@sn116.uca
Organization: General Electric

Hooray and good for you!  It is very seldom that I hear a christian say that it is
not the biblical teaching to shove christianity down someone's throat.  I wish that
more religious leaders had the same attitude you do.  Your friendly approach
probably wins more people than the traditional, forceful approach.  As a
christian myself, I can appreciate your stand.

Your post really made my day. (:

Wanda L. McCrae
mmrwlm@sn116.utica.ge.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: serg@factinfo.khabarovsk.su (rewa sergey vladimirovich)
Subject: Looking for partners !
Reply-To: serg@factinfo.khabarovsk.su
Organization: Fact-INFO
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 10:08:23 +0400

             *** LOOKING FOR CONTACTS ***
  We beg the pardon for using this conference,but we didn't
find any other. We are looking for commercial/trade contacts
in countries of South-Eastern Asia (Japan,China,Korea,Hongkong,
Taiwan etc.). So,if anybody can provide us with Internet or Bitnet
adresses of interested centres/firms/companies in named regions,
we'll be extremly thankfull.
Our commercial interests are widely spread in the sphere of
consumption.
Please,answer us directly, 'cos we don't read this conference.
 - Sergey Rewa - (Fact-INFO firm,Khabarovsk,Russia)

Internet : SERG@FACTINFO.KHABAROVSK.SU
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Who goes for the gusto?
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:44:28 GMT
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: choy@skorpio.usask.ca's message of 18 Jul 92 03:14:17 GMT

In article <1992Jul18.031417.3701@access.usask.ca> choy@skorpio.usask.ca
   writes:

 =}The competitiveness in Japanese industry boggles the brain cells.
 =}What is the ultimate pie in the sky to which these industries
 =}race?

   market share...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: davev@bnr.ca (David Villeneuve)
Subject: Culture and Religion (was Re: Japanese Bible
Keywords: Bible, Japanese, Religion, Culture
Reply-To: davev@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:42:26 GMT

Well, I'll be flamed, but what else is new ... :-)

   WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING

WARNING:  If you believe that you will find the following
offensive, please do not read this article.  
 
   WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING WARNING



Religion certainly influences culture, so sometimes knowing a
bit about the religious background to a culture can help us
understand the culture.  Certainly the Judeo-Christian influence
from the middle-east has impacted Western Law and culture.
Many people I have spoken to are shocked to find out that it was not 
originally a Western religion.

Muslim's are not anti-Bible, though they believe that the Christian
Bible has errors in it and that the Quiran is the latest and more
relevant revelation.  There is great respect for the Torah.

The Japanese are very tollerant of religion.  I was in a business
Hotel in Saporo (Hotel Rivage) and they had a Bible and a book of
Sutra's on the bookshelf.  This is quite surprising since the 
Hotel staff indicated they they had never had any foreign guests
before.

Although the "official" religion of Japan is Buddhist and Shinto,
the current trend tends to be more towards materialism.  In 
North America, the predominant belief has also significantly
moved towards Humanism. 

Of course, I myself am a Christian.  For many years I have offered
English Lessons through studying the Bible, mostly with PRC students
in Canada.  Of course my hope is that through the study they would
believe in Christ, but never was that forced upon them.  Some 
chose to become Christians eventually, but not all of them did.
I will not hide the fact that I am doing that here in Japan too.
I do it for fun, not profit.

According to the teaching in the Bible, the choice of belief is
up to the individual. The main theme of the Bible is God's plan
for restoring a personal relationship between God and man.  
(note:  not male man ... but individual human beings).  The
Biblical plan is *NOT* to "shove it down their throats".  Anyone
who believes or acts otherwise has probably not read the Bible,
or may have understood it.

BTW .. my work visa only lasts a year ... a missionary visa lasts
for 3 years in Japan.

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Dave Villeneuve, davev@bnr.ca   | Anata no ninhongo wa jozu desu ne!
Bell-Northern Research, JAPAN   | Iie, mada, jozu dewa arimasen!
My opinions are my own, though please don't quote me on that.
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: non-natives in Japan
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:28:56 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP) writes (in reference to my saying
that being married Japanese doesn't automatically give you the
>>right to live in Japan):

 >The policy of not giving automatic right-of-abode to the spouse is not
 >unusual.  Again, I am not trying to be an apologist for the Japanese
 >government policy because I think that policy leads to the bad situation
 >as you just described.  But the UK also has this policy.  In fact the
 >situation is even worse!  The non-British spouse has to remain outside
 >the UK while waiting for the visa.  The British spouse has to have a job
 >in the UK to show proof of support.  Thus the couple remains separated
 >(unless you sneak in on a tourist visa) while the application is being
 >processed and we all know how slow government bureaucracy is.  Once you
 >obtain this visa, you must reside in the UK one year before you can even
 >START application procedures to stay permanently in the UK.

One wonders what the "general rule" is, if there is any....

Sliding on the topic, way back when I was traveling, U.K. was the
one country among many that gave my girlfriend a hard time about
entering. Had to show money, wanted a return ticket, etc. No me,
just her. Never could figure it out. This is not to complain about
U.K., just say that perhaps the most effective stragtegy is to
assume "it all depends".... 

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Tokyo Trip Questions (Off the wall)
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:52:56 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

Please answer the following if you have any information.  I appreciate all
replies.  Thanks in advance.

  1.  Are the foreign exchange counters inside or outside the immigration and
      customs area at Narita?  I don't remember since I never have used them.

  2.  Any info on automobile factory showrooms in central Tokyo would be
      appreciated.  I just want to look and maybe pickup a glossy or two.
      I'm not interested in buying and I understand that most dealerships
      are very high pressure.

  3.  Where can I view HDTV?

  4.  Any info on electronics manufacturer's showrooms in central Tokyo?
      I know Sony has one in the Ginza area.  Any others that might be
      interesting?


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: dacosta@prl.philips.nl (Paulo da Costa 42147)
Subject: Re: Japanese language bible
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:34:16 GMT

In article <3645@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov> masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda) writes:
[...] in order for both of them, the host and the 
>guest, to enjoy spending a few weeks together, it might be practical not
>to bring up anything too religious. Of course, the host would be welcome to  
>show how happy he is to be a Christian as long as it's not pushy, and the
>guest would appreciate it as a part of American culture. In addition,
>if the student is provided with a bible in "English" as a farewell gift at 
>the end of stay, he/she will remember the host as a friendly Christian. 

I totally agree. A Bible _in the guest's language_ sticks out as a
"canned" gift, prepared by the hosts before they ever knew him. It
would be much nicer to give him an _English-language_ Bible (or any
other book) at the end of his stay. I also think that the hosts should
not impose their religion on the guest during that stay (expecting him
to go to church on Sunday, for instance): it is the guest who should
decide how much he wants to learn of it.
-- 
-- Paulo da Costa           /\/\   Minha terra tem palmeiras   /\/\
-- dacosta@prl.philips.nl   \/\/   Onde canta o sabia'...      \/\/
From: root@mordor.com (Chris Mauritz - SysGod)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Hotel in Tokyo.
Date: 26 Jul 92 10:27:15 GMT
Organization: Mordor - Public Access Unix - Jersey City, NJ.

vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar) wrote:

>My travel agent in the US recommended the Sunshine City Prince Hotel
>in Tokyo.  Is that any good?   She said that it would cost me $205.00
>a night.  Do you have any other recommendations...

I think Prince is either the largest or one of the largest hotel
chains in Japan.  Several years ago I stayed at the Shinjuku
Prince.  It was very nice, but the rooms are quite small.  I
don't recall it being overly expensive and it was in the middle
of Shinjuku if you like that kind of free-for-all atmosphere.  It's
kind of like staying at a hotel at Times Square in NY. :-)

Good luck.

Chris

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root@ritz.mordor.com                  | But then you make me crawl
root%ritz.mordor.com@spcvxa.spc.edu   | And I can't be holding on...
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From: v999s3m2@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chihiro Oshima)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: driver's licence
Keywords: RENEW
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello news readers. This is my first post.

I have a very important question.
I have lived in the U.S. since last summer. During my
stay in the U.S., unfrotunately my Japanese driver's
licence was expired on 5th of June. Does anyone know
whether I can renew my expired driver's licence?
If O.K., please let me know how to renew. (Can I renew
in the United States?) 

Please e-mail.
Thank you.

Chihiro Oshima
v999s3m2@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
From: kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Pornography Legalized?
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:52:02 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

Tokyo Appeal Court reportedly made a judgement that carrying-in
of pornography into Japan by tourists for private use is not illegal.

Are there any change in customs inspection after the judgement?

It goes without saying that import or resale of pornography is
definitely unlawful in Japan.  How about for souvenirs ?

Of couse, j... just a curiousity.  :-)

Nobuyasu KANEKAWA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: davev@bnr.ca (David Villeneuve)
Subject: Re: Hotel in Tokyo.
Reply-To: davev@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:14:03 GMT

In article <4617@d75.UUCP>, vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar) writes:
|> My travel agent in the US recommended the Sunshine City Prince Hotel
|> in Tokyo.  Is that any good?   She said that it would cost me $205.00
|> a night.  Do you have any other recommendations...

   Yes, find another travel agent ....... :-)

   But seriously, travel agents usually only know about hotels
   that they make a commission from, and from what I have heard,
   the price is not too bad.  

   However, if you are willing to stay in a place where the rooms
   are small by N.A. standards, you can stay for as little as
   $50/night.  You would also have to book the place yourself.  

   I do not have the information with me, but you can obtain 
   a list of "Welcome Inns" (formerly the Ryokan Economical
   Inn Association) from the Japan National Tourist Organisation
   (JNTO).  

   I don't have their number in the USA, but the Canadian office
   in Toronto can be contacted at:

       (416) 366-7140 (voice)
       (416) 366-4530 (Fax)

   or write to:

         Japan National Tourist Organisation
         165 University Ave,
         Toronto Ontario, M5H 3B8
         C A N A D A

Good luck, and have a nice trip.

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Dave Villeneuve, davev@bnr.ca   | Anata no ninhongo wa jozu desu ne!
Bell-Northern Research, JAPAN   | Iie, mada, jozu dewa arimasen!
My opinions are my own, though please don't quote me on that.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP)
Subject: Re: non-natives in Japan
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:39:00 GMT

In article <2111@aegis.or.jp>, davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes...
>blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
...

>In any case, does anybody know about Konishiki? He's a U.S. citizen,
>isn't he?  And he's applying for Japanese citizenship, I hear. Will
>he lose his U.S. citizenship if they accept him? 
> 
>>Anyway, in most countries you are not automatically a citizen if born
>>there.... except this one. Anyone know any others?
> 
>Good question. I hope somebody will reply to this.
> 

I believe France will give citizenship if you are born on French territory.
My source is a French talk show (7 sur 7) so take this with a grain of salt.
I have not heard of any other country that gives automatic citizenship if
you were born there so perhaps Japan's norm is in line with the world norm.
IMHO, it is not a fair norm.

In addition to the question above... if Konishiki is forced to give up US
citizenship can he regain his US citizenship after his sumo career is over?

-- Makoto
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Zen Story (6)
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:30:57 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <1992Jul21.213253.5491@m5.harvard.edu> borden@m5.harvard.edu writes:
>In article <6783@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
>>*******************************************
>>One day a novice asked the Zen master *& %$,
>>
>>"Paul Shih posts Zen stories in soc.culture.japan....
>>what is his purpose?"
>>
>>The master answered, "Same as dog in yard."
>>
>>*******************************************
>
>I like the Zen stories!

So do I.  I think Bill's postings parodying them are in very poor taste.
Zen is, after all, a part of Japanese culture, so the Zen stories are in
the right place.

My only problem with Paul's Zen stories is that it is sometimes hard to
map the Chinese names of the characters into their Japanese or Sanskrit
equivalent. (E.g., "Dar2-Mo2" is "Bodhidharma".)  Zen is certainly of
Chinese origin, but the names have become Japonified, and some of us
(especially, I'd think, in this newsgroup) are more familiar with them in
that form.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
From: rto051@hippo.sps.mot.com (Chang Suk-Kyung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese language bible
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:11:51 GMT
Organization: TDO

In article <1992Jul28.013232.13470@tkymail.sps.mot.com> rto051@hippo.sps.mot.com (Chang Suk-Kyung) writes:
>In article <kerry.712249241@manning> kerry@cs.UAlberta.CA (Todyruik Kerry D) writes:
>>snorthc@nswc.navy.mil (Stephen Northcutt) writes:

[deleted]

Oops!  My .sig somehow vanished.  If you're going to fill my mailbox
with flames, please make sure it's the right one:
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP)
Subject: Re: non-natives in Japan
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:01:00 GMT

In article <21JUL199209532482@vxcrna.cern.ch>, ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP) writes...
>True, but they can choose to become Japanese citizens.  The situation
>is similiar in Switzerland.  There are a significant number of foreigners
>from temporary workers to permanent residents (permis C).  All children
>born in Switzerland do not take on Swiss nationality automatically.
     ^
  of these foreign parents

An obvious error.  This is what happens when you type quick replies :-)