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From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: annual checkup procedures
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 01:56:52 GMT

Hi all, I checked in the FAQ first and didn't find the detail I wanted, so
I decided to post.

Our girls are just over a year old now, and it has been nearly a year since
their first shots. Both were spayed at Christmas. I am taking them back in
for their annual boosters, and would like to ask the vet for a general exam
exam and some precautionary tests at the same time. This vet does not actually 
*dis*like cats, but he makes no bones about preferring large animals, and has 
always seemed a bit indifferent although he handles them confidently. He is 
the only vet within 40+ miles, so I don't really have a choice.

They spend the day outdoors while we are at work, and are indoors the rest
of the time.

What should I ask him to do? Things I thought of:

  - check teeth and ears (for tartar/gum swelling and ear mites respectively)
  - check body and abdomen for unusual lumps/painful spots/swelling
  - blood (?) test for FeLV (FIV too?) (hasn't been done yet)
  - boosters for rabies, FeLV, panleukopenia, rhino&co. (Tetanus?)

Anything else important for an annual "physical"?

The girls show no signs of worms, so I am not too worried about that. But
is it a good idea anyway? From the symptoms in the FAQ, the only possible
type would be tapeworm, and Boots is too plump for that. Abby is just about
right in terms of weight (~10 pounds, average size). Both are very active,
Boots just likes her food too much (like me :-) ). Judging by the little
saying someone posted here ("If you can see its ribs, it's too thin; if you
can't feel them, it's too fat") they are both fine on the weight side.

Thanks for any advice.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Possums and cats
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:58:24 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

Last night, as I was sitting in a friend's kitchen chatting, we saw a
large possum walk up her back steps, help himself to the food she had out
for her cat, then waddle off.  The whole time, her cat was crouched about
10 feet away, frozen, watching the whole thing.  My friend was rather
freaked out, having never seen a possum before, but Seattle is overrun
with wildlife, and I see them walking around the streets in my neighborhood
at night all the time, and even sometimes during the day.  I never let my
cats out at night, but I am wondering: are possums at all aggresive towards
cats?  If a cat approached a possum, would the possum run, attack, or 
'play possum'?   I know all too well how racoons behave (when I was a kid a
family cat was ripped up by a racoon, luckily the cat survived after
considerable surgery), but don't know much about possums.              

Thanks,

Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.boeing.com  // or uunet!bcstec!voodoo!das
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 30 Aug 92 14:11:12 GMT
	<1992Aug21.115253.5728@cs.nott.ac.uk> <66552@hydra.gatech.EDU>
	<BtLvvL.11u@maxim.com> <1992Aug28.204423.16316@edsi.plexus.COM>
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Distribution: usa
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

anyone have a name for the way a timid or scared cat will slink around with
the belly less than an inch from the floor?  we call it "needing new shocks".

-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Looking for pet odor remover/neutralizer.
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:48:12 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

In article <1992Sep3.173146.9148@newsgate.sps.mot.com> r1156c@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael R. Dow) writes:
>
>	Ok... So, after Vincent is done marking a spot repeatedly, how do I 	
>remove the odor?  I can use something like 'Simple Solution', but I want
>vincent's odor *GONE*....
>
>	Chemicals?  Solvents?  Fire?
>
Okay, everyone now, in harmony:

	     ***** Nature's Miracle *****

	     available at pet supply stores.

(It's some sort of enzyme that totally neutralizes pet odors, and is
also an amazing stain remover.)

Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.boeing.com  // or uunet!bcstec!voodoo!das
From: shroymp@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mike Shroyer )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Goodybye Thomasina-the-cute
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:39:39 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

I think we all know the pain of losing someone.  I remember when I
lost my first pet, a doberman (yes, I know a dog, but my mom is
allergic to cats and I was 12).  She was 12 when we had her put to
sleep because of a bladder problem.  I was depressed for a week. 
Reading a post like yours makes me want to take care of Speedy and
Willie even more.  Speedy's been crying to let him outside ... not for
a while.

Mike
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: abb@unislc.uucp (Anne Beck)
Subject: Re: Abyssinian (Blue) 
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:01:00 GMT

From article <1992Aug28.204946.24329@cornerstone.com>, by dgates@cornerstone.com (D. Gates):
> 
> 
> What can I expect to pay for a female blue Abyssinian of
> pet quality?  Show quality?  I'm looking for a kitten.
> 
> 
A breeder quoted me a price of $600 at a show last year.  This is Utah and
she was in Boise, Idaho.  Ruddies go for 400-600 around here.  The blue
Aby she had was ABSOLUTELY the most gorgeous creature I have ever seen!
-- 
   Anne Beck			| The difference between difficult
   abb@unislc  sun!unislc!abb   | dogs & vicious human beings is
   Unisys  SLC UT               | that difficult dogs don't rise to 
			        | prominent positions in the community.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: Kittens!
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:19:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.172838.6427@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Charlotte the Rotund is now Charlotte the Slender, new mother of 6...
>everyone seems to be doing fine.
CONGRATULATIONS, Grandma!

>
>Please consider yourself the recipient of a virtual Godiva chocolate...
mmmmm, my favorite!  Thanks.
>
>Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
>
Debbie Millard


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Subject: Re: What kind of cats do I have?
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:39:11 GMT

In article <4q0FqB4w165w@ailanth.UUCP> ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa  
N.T. Murphy) writes:
> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
> 
> >
> > You have ordinary domestic felines of the household pet variety.   
Since there
> > are no papers for any of them, they cannot be of any specific breed.  
They may
> > look *similar* to a known breed, but to call them such would not be  
correct.
> > Veterinarians often err in this respect.  They have been known to give  
breed
> > names to cats that were nothing at all like the breed itself.
> >
> > So, in short, you have domestic longhair household pets.
> >
> 
> oh balls.  the maine coon cat is just a mutt with an attitude.  breed  
papers
> are just nice things to label somethign that already exists, in some  
cases.
> and tha maine coon does not require some silly society to give it  
permission to
> exist in particular.
> 
>                                            -ailsa
> 
> p.s. the maine coon cat predates the attempt to give it a breed  
standard..


YEAH!!! (owner of a Maine Coon cat, not papered, who cares?)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu (cindy davies)
Subject: Re: The latest addition to our household
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 14:38:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.143203.11732@rtsg.mot.com> oakes@rtsg.mot.com writes:
>
>I would not be so sure about Colorado being flea-free.  If altitude and dry air
>were enough to prevent fleas, then Northern New Mexico would not have the
>serious problems caused by fleas that it does.  -- For thoes who are not aware,
>Nothern New Mexico has an ongoing and consistant problem with Plague. --
>However, Denver is enough farther north that it is significantly cooler all year.
>This may have an effect.  But cold weather is not enough.  I have had flea
>problems in the Chicago area, and I don't think it realy gets any colder anywhere
>on earth (the temputure keeps dropping, but it does not get any colder :-)
>
>Good luck with fighting thoes fleas (and don't send any to my brother's)
>
>Ronald B. Oakes
I don't know what the magic is, but Rapid City S.D. does not have fleas.  You
can go 15-20 miles from town and pets will have fleas,  but in town, there 
are no fleas (or very,very few) My Dad used to live on a farm about 40 miles
from town, and his dog would get fleas.  He started bring the dog to town
with him when he came in once a week.  The fleas all but vanished.  So, I don't
know if it's altitude, temp., helpful flea eating gnomes, but we are blessed.

I didn't realize just how much until I read about all you people feeding your
poor animals garlic and dumping borax in the carpets. 8-)  (But at least you
shouldn't have to worry about vampires either.


--
Life among academics has taught me that a well-expressed opinion is
usually better than a badly expressed fact, so far as professional
advancement goes.  --Gabaldon, Outlander.
cldavies@silver.sdsmt.edu        cldavies@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Diarrhea
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:39:42 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <ardie.54@UIUC> ardie@UIUC (Richard D. McClary) writes:
>From: ardie@UIUC (Richard D. McClary)
>Subject: Diarrhea
>Date: 24 Aug 92 12:40:16 GMT


>     I have a female kitten, about 5 months old.  She has recurring 
>diarrhea - very watery (sp?).  The vet says she is totally asymptomatic and 
>right-on for growth and development and doesn't understand the diarrhea.  He 
>gave her a shot about 3 weeks ago (to slow down her intestinal function) and 
>put her on a combination antibiotic/peristalsis-slower, which worked until 
>about a week after the last pill.  Any ideas?  (Yes, stool samples have been 
>analyzed.  She is also flatulent on occasions.)

Diet?
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "This must be Thursday.  I never could get the hang of Thursdays"
                                                       - D Adams
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    exuptr@exu.ericsson.se                       "Don't let the .se fool you"
    alternately, exuptr@ZGNews.Lonestar.Org
From: adwright@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How about kitty noises?
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:03:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: vincent1.adwright.715633421
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <1992Sep4.154133.14482@auto-trol.com> katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty) writes:

>bonni@snoid.cray.com (Bonni Ensminger) writes:
>: 
>: My cat also makes a noise I don't think I can describe very well.  It's the
>: 'aren't I so cute you want to give me anything I want' noise.  It's kind of
>: a meow and a purr mixed together, similar to a pigeon cooing.

>My sister calls this the "purrmeow."
>Kathy

My wife calls uncontrolled purring a case of "purrsitis"
From: martin@mala.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: cats killing plants
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:26:34 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

> So, I want to get some plants that can defend themselves without injuring  
> my babies. The FAQ #1 listed _poisonous_ plants, but what I'm looking for  

I cured one cat who lived with me from damaging plants by sprinkling
pepper liberally over the surface of the earth.  The main problem 
was with digging the dirt out of the pot and using the pots for a 
litterbox.  

Cats always have a good sniff before they dig, and I watched this
cat take a big sniff of the pepper, levitate about an inch, and zoom
out of the plant pot.  She never dug in the plants again, ever! The 
pepper, being a simple plant substance doesn't hurt the house 
plants, and does seem to be a real deterent..  I don't think it
hurts the cats either...

I've also heard people recommend pepper as a deterent to cats 
scratching apholstered furniture... you can use black pepper,
cayenne, or white pepper to match the colour of the fabric...

never had cats eating plants, except my calico who used to steal a 
leaf at a time off my jade plant as a play toy... and the jade plant
only seemed to benefit from the occaisional pruning...

don't know what to suggest about that....

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: fease@dkas.enet.dec.com (Andrea Midtmoen Fease)
Subject: Re: help with diabetes & related problems
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Marlboro MA
Date:  3 SEP 92 11:03:39    


>... Right now it is still way off scale on my dipsticks and 
>consequently he is not metabolizing his food too well. -> He eats
>like crazy to get enough sugar and drinks/pees like crazy to 
>flush all the excess sugar out of his system.
>Hopefully we will get this adjusted soon. Right now we are buying
>cat litter every two or three days.

Thomas,

     Watch out when the sugar levels are correct - Loki went from 12 pounds
when he was uncontrolled to 15+ pounds now that he is under control and no
longer "starving"!  Now we're trying to control his *weight*, which means
cutting his food and watching his sugar; cutting out too much food and keeping
the insulin level the same will lower his blood sugar (low is *much* more 
dangerous than high, although high does nasty things of course).

     It is nice when they're under control, though.  Loki acts like a normal
cat again, and I can let the boxes go for a week without changing (although
I scoop/stir twice a day) 8-) .

					- Andrea
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Roundworm tablets
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:35:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.145647.6106@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>
>Actually, I have no trouble at all with cats and pills.  It's the
>liquids that I have fun with.  One particularly vile pink antibiotic
>suspension resulted in a pink kitchen (was brown and white) and *5* 
>pink cats...    And when the antibiotic froth dried, I had punk cats...

Oolong has no problems with the liquid -- he actually seems to like it!  I
have much more trouble pilling him than giving him the liquid.  He doesn't
even run away from me when he sees me coming with the bottle.

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

The Law, in its majestic equality, forbids the rich, as well as the
poor, to sleep under the bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal
bread.
		-- Anatole France
From: hendricks@cdrom.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:50:10 GMT
Reply-To: hendricks@cdrom.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation



I have two favorite cat behaviors...

1) The froggy...or the splatcat...

Dale, my chunky orange tabby, flops down like a poodle with both of his
back legs straight out behind him and his front paws straight out in front.

Do other cats do this? None of my others ever have.  The funniest 
thing is that his tail goes straight up and curves down over his back 
and almost touches his neck while he does this.  It looks very strange.


2) tampon stalking

I used to live with a wonderful brown tabby named Tash who loved tampons
in paper wrappers.  She could get them out of my backpack, my briefcase,
the linen closet, you name it.  She had a special, proud hunting sound
just for tampons.  She would work them over pretty good while making
her special prooowwwing sounds, and then drop them outside my door
in shreds, totally exhausted from her kill.  


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: Info on Singapura(?) Breed
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 19:52:29 GMT

In <1992Aug21.115258.6165@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>In article <lis.714359629@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
>> Actually, there seem to be a lot of new breeds out there.  Can anyone
>> recommend a good recent book on cat breeds, with pictures, info on
>> disposition, etcetera?

>Legacy of the Cat, by Gloria Stephens.  Photos by Tetsu Yamazaki. Chronicle
>  Books, 1990.  pb $15.  

>I bought this one because of the *superb* photos (Yamazaki is incredibly
>talented, and really captures cat personalities in the photos), but the
>more I read in it, the more impressed I am with the text.  Good section
>on genetics, too.  (As a biology teacher, I'm always looking for
>real life genetic problems for my students.  They get as tired of
>wrinkled and smooth peas and ABO blood groups as I do!)

>Singapuras are seal agouti tabbies, supposedly the smallest of the
>US recognized breeds.  Stephens says they are quiet and even-tempered,
>loyal to owners but curious enough to accept strangers willingly.

>Rounded head, big eyes and ears, kind of a compact body. "Semi-cobby"
>in show terms.  As of the writing of the book, there were 27 US breeders
>with a total of 250 cats, 40 in the breeding program.

>Singapuras look like cats I could really like... (Hey, what am I saying?
>I've never met a member of the Felidae (cat family) I didn't like!)

>Kay Klier

Singapuras were imported from Singapore by Tommie Meadows.  The breed
occurs naturally and are referred to as "drain cats" in their country
of origin.  I don't know what the gene pool is now, but it was fairly
small (about 20 imported individuals) about 10 years ago.  I hope more
have been imported to keep them vigorous.
 
 There are singapura breeders in California and Washington state for
 sure.  Check out a copy of CATS Magazine and look through the ads.
 You can write to breeders for more information.  Gloria Stephens is/was
 a show judge, but the people who know the MOST about a breed are the ones
 who work with them.

 BTW, the original Singapura cattery is called USAF.  Tommie is the best
 source for info on the breed.  Most cat books don't do ANY breed the justice they deserve.  I can't tell you HOW many books are WRONG about my Balinese.
  
Best book I have found, with the most accurate information (recentness of
book is no guarantee the author knows anything) is "The Book of the Cat".
Simon and Schuster.  Large format paperback, white cover with orange tabby
walking toward the reader.  1984 I think, but a d*mn good book.  I've yet
to see one that equals it in accuracy.

Crystal
  ;>
From: Greenleaf@bchm.biochem.duke.edu (Andrea Skantar)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:21:37 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Duke University Biochemistry Dept.

In article <ERICJ.92Aug21134729@lagos.cfsat.Honeywell.COM>, ericj@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Eric Jacobsen) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug20.211625.24420@super.org> judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger) writes:
> 
>    Great list, Marie, but you left out "sitting like a bug".  This is
>    when they scrunch down, almost in sphinx position, but their front
>    pays just kind of collapse underneath them.  My mom named that nearly
>    a million years ago and I still think it's appropriate for that
>    position.
> 
> I call that the "quadriplegic cat" when it looks like a body sitting there with
> no legs. My wife says "legless kitty" or "poor kitty has no legs"...

Similarly, we call this "the amputee" position.  

Also, when Millie nuzzles herself into our laps and starts sucking on our 
shirts (preferably cotton), we call her a "pit-sucker".

What do you call it when a cat stretches, first extending its front legs, butt
up in the air followed by an extension of each hind leg to the rear?

Andrea
From: mary@UICSL.CSL.UIUC.EDU ("Mary E. Allison")
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: The OBVIOUS choice in the upcoming election
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:35:51 GMT


     The following is HUMOR, a JOKE, Mary makes a FUNNY.  Please take
it that way 'cause I want there to be a few groups on the net that
aren't flaming about Bush and Clinton.  Of course, discussing how
superior CAT owners are to DOG owners -- that's a horse of a different
color.  

Dateline - USA - this just in.  President George Bush owns a dog - not
  only does the President own a dog this dog has lowered herself to 
  writing a book.

Presidential candidate Bill Clinton has had the honour of being owned
  by a cat bestowed upon him.  

     I'm sure all you folks on r.p.c know what intelligent animals
cats are, and you all know how stupid dogs are (and, who can take a
dog that would write a book seriously anyway).  If a cat would choose
to own Mr. Clinton - and no cats have chosen to own President Bush - I 
think that OUR choice in November is OBVIOUS.


-- 
Self-discipline implies some unpleasant things to me, including
staying away from chocolate ... 
  -- Oleg Kiselev 

    Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois
Catx2 Owned, Square Dancer, Leaper, Ballroom Dancer in training 
Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:04:10 -0400 
From: "Denise D. Novak" <dn22+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: What do you think


Spooky is called the Spookmeister, Pookie, Spookybaby, Poopmeister, Slut Kitty
(He is definitely 15 lbs of lap cat and will never be a guardcat). Just
a few endearments for the most important crreature in my life (Don't
tell my husband).

Denise Novak
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: Cat rash
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:28:19 GMT
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL

In article <1992Sep1.205248.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> cmickan@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>
>I noticed after a couple of hours of my guests arriving that Josie started
>to get a rash on her hind legs and on her belly.  This isn't the first time
>that this has happened when I've had people stay and was just wondering if
>any of you have come up with the same problem.
>
>Hope I can get this
>sorted out soon as it would be embarrassing to have to tell people that they
>can't stay with me as it makes my cat sick!  (Good excuse sometimes, though)
>

Hmmmm, I have friends who won't come over because they break
out in a rash from cat allergies...Maybe Josie has human allergies.

Debbie
Calli, Cissy, Timmy