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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 11:45:15 EST
Reply-To:     Dick Harold <HARROLD@INDYCMS.BITNET>
From:         Dick Harold <HARROLD@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "marker" names

On Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:47:11 GMT Towster Alicia E. said:
>I am interested in your comments on what I call "marker names" --
>since I don't know of any other term for this phenomenon. (Does
>anyone else out there?)
>
Thanks for the idea.  I have a line in England that seemed to use
"James" and "John" alternating from generation to generation.  This may
help me find the string again.  Why didn't I think of that?

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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Obituaries index
From: Alan Greenberg <ALAN@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 10:19:53 EST
Reply-To: Alan Greenberg <ALAN@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
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On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:21:34 GMT Johan deBoer said:
>Hi,
>I just found in our library an index to the obituaries in the New York Times
>for between 1858 and 1975, and for The Times for between 1951 and 1979.
>I may be a few years off, I do this from memory.
>If anybody would like me to look up an entry (it is just a listing of names
>and on which date it appeared) please let me know. I get to the library
>once every two weeks normally, so it may take a few days.
>Johan.

 If my memory serves me correctly, these are indices of editorial
 type obituaries (that is, recording the death of a prominent
 person).  They unfortunately don't include obits printed for a fee.

 Alan
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:43:38 -0600
Reply-To:     Brian Madsen <bmadsen@VORTECH.COM>
From:         Brian Madsen <bmadsen@VORTECH.COM>
Subject:      hallc1.cebaf.gov alternatives?
Comments: To: Roots Genealogy Mailing List <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

I was sad to read recently that hallc1.cebaf.gov is going to be unavailable
for genealogical ftp in the near future.

Once it goes away, and assuming that nobody picks it up, what alternatives
are there?  Where else do people go -- besides vm1.nodak.edu, of course --
to ftp genealogical software and data files?

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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:00:39 CST
Reply-To:     Bill Green <green@plains.nodak.edu>
From:         Brad Green <green@PLAINS.NODAK.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Library Guides
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.Edu
              "Christine M. Darby" at Nov 18, 92 12:23 pm

Another good source of easy connections to libraries is the BBS at the
University of North Carolina.  They have a system that makes connecting
to Internet libraries easy, by selecting a state and then a library.
To check it out, telnet to bbs.oit.unc.edu and chose Libtel from the
menu.
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From: tswift@well.sf.ca.us (Theodore John Swift)
Subject: Mac genealogy software (was: software to track genealogy)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:03:30 GMT


There are a number of genealogy programs out for the Mac.  Lisa Oberg
mentioned PAF for the Mac.  I agree that this is a very smooth and easy-
to-use program.  It doesn't have all the bells and whistles and it won't
make the coffee for you in the morning, but it has data fields for
everything that really matters, and, as she mentioned, if you're not
LDS, you can turn off the LDS data fields.
  There's also Sesame, from Commsoft, the makers of Roots III for
Compatibles.  They're
     Commsoft, Inc.
     7795 Bell Road, PO Box 310
     Windsor, CA 95492-0310
     (707) 838-4300

You can also supposedly find Sesame at giant software supermarkets.
Sesame is like a spreadsheet for doing genealogy.  It's main claim to
fame is that you can store your notes and data as you find it, without
forcing it into restrictive data fields.  Each cell in the "spreadsheet"
can contain up to 64K of text (65,535 characters).  Sesame is good for
organizing your research, but doesn't have a lot of fancy presentation
or printing features.
  Both programs import and export GEDCOM.
There are a number of other programs out there, such as Family Roots
from Quinsept in MA, a shareware program called MacRoots, and a number
of others.  If you have access to a genealogical society or library, see
if they have a copy of _Genealogical Computing_ magazine from Ancestry, Inc.
Each summer(?) issue they have a comprehensive survey listing all the
programs they've heard of, giving a short description, kind of hardware,
price, and publisher.  Give it a squint.
-Ted..
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: "ray whidden" <ray.whidden@canrem.com>
Subject: the best mac genealog
Reply-To: "ray whidden" <ray.whidden@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:18:31 EST

TO: fireman@iuegtc.span.nasa.gov

GF>  Newsgroup: soc.roots
GF> Message-ID: <19NOV199211462431@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov>
GF>    Subject: The best Mac genealogy software!

GF>In article <1992Nov16.202037.28201@linus.mitre.org>, pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat 
GF>Smith) writes...
>Can anyone recommend Macintosh software to track geneology?  Thanks in advance.

GF> Tom Lincoln once wrote up a good review of Reunion, available in the
GF>NoDak archives, I believe.  It has a wonderful interface, is customizable if
GF>you know Hypercard, and exports in GEDCOM, providing the compatibility the
GF>German poster was asking about.  At $125, it's a little pricey, but was worth
GF>the money to me.

Hi Gwyn,

Do you have an address that Reunion can be ordered from.  I'm in the 
Toronto, Ontario area and haven't seen it in the local computer stores.

I appreciate any help you can give.  Thanks.

Regards, Ray

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:39:00 -0500
Reply-To:     James Moores <aa624@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
From:         James Moores <aa624@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      Kassimatis TT
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

        I'm posting the following TT for a friend.  Anyone interested in making
contact should follow-up to cf953@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John L. Kassimatis).

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N John Kassimatis
A 1547 Canterbury Rd.
A Westlake Ohio
A 44145
T 2168354643
Z 2 TTGEN-1.22 MP
K253 1894*1943*Kassimatis,kasimatis\Kythera Greece/cleveland oh
C253 1894*1943*Cassimatis\Kythera Greece/cleveland oh
W 11 Nov 1992

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Jim Moores

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Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: merklin@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ed Kemo)
Subject: potential relatives in france
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:47:38 GMT


Hello!

My family and I were digging thru some old papers and we came across the 
following information:
Apparently back in 1828 my great-great-great grandfather immigrated 
from France to live in the US.
I would like to find out if any of his desendants are still living in France.
His name was Joseph Grosjean
He was born in Morschwiller, in the Alsace Region of the Lower Rhine
He spoke of sisters and family in France
He apparently left France to avoid French law on mandatory military service
He apparently was an aristocrat who knew both german and french
Any info about him or his family's desendants' in france would be
extremely.
He was born in Morschwiller around 1801 as far as we can tell
you can reach me at merklin@gnu.ai.mit.edu
thanks very much
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: jdboer@sol.UVic.CA (Johan deBoer)
Subject: Obituaries index
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, B.C. CANADA
Distribution: soc.roots
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 06:21:34 GMT

Hi,
I just found in our library an index to the obituaries in the New York Times
for between 1858 and 1975, and for The Times for between 1951 and 1979.
I may be a few years off, I do this from memory.
If anybody would like me to look up an entry (it is just a listing of names
and on which date it appeared) please let me know. I get to the library
once every two weeks normally, so it may take a few days.
Johan.

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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:11:14 CST
Reply-To:     MH5726@ETSUADMN.BITNET
From:         MH5726@ETSUADMN.BITNET
Subject:      Israel Beckman

Roots-l Folks,
     I am trying to find information on Israel Beckman who drowned on
the Isles of Shoals in New Hampsire in 1745.  I know there are many
people named Beckman in and around the Seabrook New Hampshire area.
One account I have claims he was Swiss, another (the only other)
says he was from Sweden.  Any help would be appreciated.  I will
gladly share what information I have with others.

MARILYN HOYE                 RESEARCHING:  BECKMAN(NH);JANVRIN(NH)
208 BROOKHAVEN                             KINNE(CT);HOYE(RI,MA)
COMMERCE, TX  75428                        MELLEN(RI,CT);PHILLIPS(CT)
MH5726@ETSUADMN.BITNET
MH5726@ETSUADMN.ETSU.EDU
From: Brian.Mavrogeorge@p0.f30.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Brian Mavrogeorge)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Macintosh GEDCOM to TT program progress report
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:39:03 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/30.0 - Roots(SF!), San Francisco CA

No need to go to Utah. The official Russell coding used for the censuses is at the front of every census microfilm. If your local library or FHC has any census microfilm then that is what you need.



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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:27:15 EDT
Reply-To:     Carolyn Edds <RIVERAT@NERVM.BITNET>
From:         Carolyn Edds <RIVERAT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      N.J. Birth Certificate

I am writing for a friend.  She needs a copy of her birth certificate from
New Jersey.  From my 1989 printing of The Handy Book for Genealogists, I
gave her the following address:   State Registrar's Office
                                  State of New Jersey
                                  Department of Health
                                  John Fitch Plaza
                                  P.O. Box 1540
                                  Trenton, N.J.
                                           08625


 Does anyone know if this is the current address to write for a certified
copy of a birth certificate?  I once sent for a record from another state
using an address from my copy of the Handy Book and the address had changed
since the book had been printed.
  Also, does anyone know what the current charge is for a certified copy of
a birth certificate from New Jersey?
  Thanks for you help.


Carolyn Edds
Internet: riverat@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu
Bitnet:  riverat@nervm

Searching: McPeek, McCluskey, Barry in Ohio;Edds, Harper, Towers in Arkansas;
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:12:16 -0500
Reply-To:     "JPENCE@CARLETON.EDU" <JPENCE%ADMIN1@CARLETON.EDU>
From:         "JPENCE@CARLETON.EDU" <JPENCE%ADMIN1@CARLETON.EDU>
Subject:      What is the ROOTS-L List and the LISTSERV ?
Comments: To: roots-l@ndsuvm1.bitnet

What is the ROOTS-L List and the LISTSERV ?

Are you REALLY new to the Genealogy Discussion on the NET?

Then read on !

We have had and will have several requests for "FAQ" help (frequently asked
questions) sent to the "List" and not the "Server".

If you are new at this, as I was, it can be very confusing and frustrating.

There are two (2) addresses that you MUST know the difference about.


        1.) The 1st Address:

            The mailing "LIST"   (one of these should work)

                                        ROOTS-L@VM1.NODAK.EDU   (for internet)
                                        ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1         (for bitnet)
                                        ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1.BITNET  (has worked
                                                                        for me)


                                this address reroutes your text discussions
                                to everyone "in the world", almost. If you
                                send ANYTHING here, it will be seen by
                                everyone on the Roots Mailing List (Roots-L)
                                Do NOT send Server COMMANDS here. (see next
                                paragraph)


        2.) The 2nd Address

            The file "SERVER"   (one of these should work)

                                        LISTSERV@VM1.NODAK.EDU  (for internet)
                                        LISTSERV@NDSUVM1        (for bitnet)
                                        LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET  (has worked
                                                                        for me)


                                this address is the computer, more or less
                                that keeps actual files of info in Fargo, ND.
                                When you send your COMMANDS for info to this
                                address you will get a reply from "a computer"
                                either giving you the info you requested or
                                error messages like "hey, you don't know
                                what you're doing




So, to summarize, if you want to "chat", send your mail to the LIST.
If you want to use the resources of the Roots-L (files) send your "commands"
to the SERVER.
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re:      LDS Access
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:56:01 GMT


>Steve McNutt <Z1SSM@TTUVM1.BITNET> writes...
>>Does anybody know if there is any way to access the LDS library through 
>>either Bitnet or Internet?

According to previous discussions here:  no, there are none now, and no
plans by the LDS library to implement network access.

>>They are the only two systems that I have access to so
>>other systems, like telnet, don't do me any good.

Uh, telnet is an Internet protocol.  (Perhaps you meant "Telenet"?)

lib1p@elroy.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino) writes:
>Actually, what are all the ways to access LDS?

By car, bicycle, or hang-glider to your nearest Family History Center.  :-)

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From: kate_smith@next.com (Kate Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: are there any FAQ's for this newsgroup?
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:21:07 GMT

I've just started lurking here because I've started my own research  
project on my family tree.  I'm in luck because I already have 3 books  
containing information about various branches of the tree.  But there is  
so much to look into.  I would hope that there is a FAQ or two answering  
the following types of questions:
1) How do you hook up with the information that the LDS has gathered (and  
what have they gathered)?
2) is there an ftp site and what can be found there?
3) what are the standard formats for genealogical data?  I've read about  
Tiny Tafels and GEDCOM in the group, but don't know anything about them.
4) what is the best software?  (I think I have a decent sense of that from  
the recent postings)

Thanks for pointing me at this information.

Kate Smith
Kate@NeXT.com

my families include the Claghorns from Georgia, McCleod's from Glenngary  
Scotland who immigrated to southern Ontario and MacArteney's from ??
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Newsgroups: soc.roots
Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:12:52 EDT
Reply-To:     Dale Lally <DLALLY@STLAWU.BITNET>
From:         Dale Lally <DLALLY@STLAWU.BITNET>
Subject:      German American History of the Ohio Valley

Mea Culpa!  In looking at my original posting, I saw that I said that
the original text was published in English in 1864.  Turn that around.
It was originally in German & I translated it into English.  I can't
believe I made that mistake, but it reinforces Murphy's Law #1

Wenn irgend etwas schiefgehen kann, dann wird es auch tun!

If anything can go wrong, it will.


Cordially

Dale V Lally Jr, Director
Carnegie Language Center
St. Lawrence University
Canton NY 13617
(315) 379 5857 VOICE
(315) 379 5989 FAX
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From: mfc@medoc.aux.apple.com (Matt Caprile)
Subject: Re: Calif placename query
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:45:46 GMT
Organization: A/UX Group, Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

In article <Pine.3.05y.9211231253.A19051-c100000@carson.u.washington.edu> Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU> writes:
>Walt--
>
>I went in melvyl (University of California combined library catalogs) and
>searched for Diggings in the subject heading field, ie f su diggings.  The
>results were:
>
>Malakoff Diggins State Park (Calif.)
>Murphy's Diggings (Calif.)
>Coyote Diggings (Calif.)
>Secret Diggings (Calif.)

Using the "martini geographical server" and searching on the above
names, none are in the database, which may indicate that they no
longer exist.
  Queries on the regular expressions containing "diggings"
all timed out (120 seconds) with no matches.

_matt

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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:32:43 CST
Reply-To:     "Darin is here..." <nipper@VAX1.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU>
From:         "Darin is here..." <nipper@VAX1.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU>
Subject:      Etherington
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Hello fellow rooters!
I was just wondering if anyone out there could help me out with an Etherington
problem? I am looking for a Jane (H)Etherington born in England in 1763. Her
father was either a Capt. or Maj. of the British forces in New York prior to
the Rev. War. His name was George Etherington. George's son and wife drowned
while on their way to America. Some sources say they drown in the ocean
and other sources say Lake George in New York. George, according to family
history, went back to England during the outbreak of the Rev. War and left his
ng in Albany,New York about 1788. If anybody out there could help me I would
really appreciate it. Thank you in advance.

Darin Flansburg
nipper@vax1.bemidji.msus.edu
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much)
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton
Organization: Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:29:18 GMT

Bill Clinton is said to descend from Simon II de Montfort, a French
and English nobleman (d. 1265) who owned lots of land on both sides of
the English Channel.  If I remember right, he died fighting the
Albigensian heretics.  No evidence for this genealogy was given in the
newspaper I read.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:25:55 EST
Reply-To:     Lynn Foster <IQM195@URIACC.URI.EDU>
From:         Lynn Foster <IQM195@URIACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: anyone have Holland knowledge?

searching for the correct spelling of a town in holland  Yeilst Velst ??etc..
and information regarding an address to find family records birth death marraig
e etc.. anything!
                 Thanks
                       Lynn
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:34:13 EST
Reply-To:     peggy@MTNET2.WVNET.EDU
From:         "Peggy Landis, MPL Corporation,
              (304) 472-9520" <peggy@MTNET2.WVNET.EDU>
Subject:      Outagamie County Wisconsion and Demoss family
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

I could use some help with Outagamie County, Wisconsin State/Federal census
records concerning the Demoss family.  I wrote to the addresses in the Vitals
file several weeks ago and have not had any reply yet.

Dennis Demoss married Susan Demoss in Upshur County, WV in the early 1860's.
From a local Tenney genealogy, it said that they went to Outagamie, County
Wisconsin along with other people from WV and their daughter Deuzella Demoss
(married a Tenney).  While in WI, they had my great-grandmother Sarah Frances
Demoss who was born September 6, 1869.   The Tenney genealogy also mentioned
that they lived near Dennis Demoss' parents in WI.  Later, they came  back to
WV in a covered wagon where Sara Frances Demoss married John William Reynolds.

I am looking for this Demoss family and potential relatives in Outagamie County
Wisconsin 1850-1880 census records.  I would like to know if they are in the
census records before I take the time to order them. Thank you for your kind
attention.  I would be more than willing to reimburse/pay for the above
information.
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