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From: morton@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Brent Morton)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Four wheel drive Autos
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:28:51 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada

In article <1gma36INN8jp@uwm.edu> qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi) writes:
>
>--I applaud Subaru for designing the goofy windows for the SVX.  It is
>  one of the things that makes the car DIFFERENT and UNIQUE - and not in
>  such a bad way either.  Here is an upmarket Japanese car that needs no
>  gold-plated badges to make it stand out and be noticed!!!
>
>  Granted, I never drove an SVX, and I can
>  understand that some people may be terminally bothered by these windows.
>  However, I think that sales are poor due to Subaru's economy-car image.
>  Maybe Subaru ought to do what Chrysler is doing with its LH's: give 
>  prospective owners (i.e. Saab and Audi drivers?) an SVX to demo for 48
>  hours.  I can bet that people who liked the concept of the Audi Coupe
>  Quattro will start writing checks instantly.  
>
>  This car is too good to be killed so soon.  Sales are so poor that, as
>  pointed out, no '93 models are going to be imported.

I would have to attribute Subaru's poor sales to the fact that it's not one of
the "mainstream" car makers that people typically consider. If you're looking
for a Japanese  car in the Legacy's class, you have in mind the Camry, Accord,
and possibly the Altima. Mention the Subaru to someone and they'll say, "Oh
yeah, forgot about the Legacy," if they've heard of it at all.

I don't think the negative effect of the styling can be dismissed easily,
either. That's the one thing that would steer me away, were I interested. Items
like the black roof (I really don't mind the windows all THAT much) turn me
off. Of course, you'll find the same thing on a Talon.

-- Brent
morton@artifis.gaul.csd.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: ssave@ole.cdac.com (The Devil Reincarnate)
Subject: Re: Implosion Engines... feasible?
Organization: CDAC, WA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:50:50 GMT

In article <184543@pyramid.pyramid.com> lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
>In article <8758@orbit.cts.com> rambler@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Dan Meyer) writes:
>>
>>A Few comments from me, a person without much chemistry knowlege.
>>
>>First, it seems to me that when you mix Hydrogen and Oxygen and 
>>apply heat, an explosion results. I did this in 8th grade science
>>class quite some time ago.
>>
>   Hmmmm.  Have you considered what happens when you mix gasoline
>   vapors and air?  Could it be, perhaps, an explosion?


  AaaaaannnnKKKK!  Think of the fire prevention drill "pyramid":

	    /\
	   /  \
    Fuel  /    \  Heat
	 /      \
	 --------
	   Oxygen

   Mixing gasoline and air will not do anything.  There is no heat.

 Wait a minute! What's this I read: pyramid.com!!!  hmmmmm.

 -S
ssave@ole.cdac.com
From: awds_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Adam Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Cougar XR/7
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:36:24 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <BzF2C1.DzE@ssesco.com> nau@ssesco.com (William Nau) writes:

>I just wanted to whine.  About a year or two ago, I heard that the 1993
>Cougar Xr7 would have the 4.6L V8 in it producing around 300hp.  Cool,
>I figured.  I always liked that car.  I almost bought one and would consider
>it again.  Much to my dissapointment the 1993 XR/7 seems to have the same
>damn 3.8L that's in the LS.  Anybody know if this is temporary or will
>we never have the XR/7 as a powerhouse again?

>The dealer doesn't know anything and I haven't spotted anything in the
>mags (I'm not an avid reader though).  I thought ya all might have an
>idea.

>-- 
>William R. Nau
>Supercomputer Systems Engineering and Services Company (SSESCO)
>511 11th Avenue South, Suite 216
>Minneapolis, Minnesota 55415-1536
>(612) 342-0003



The hottest engine available in the '92 XR-7 was the 5.0 HO v-8
of Mustang fame.  Still, that's a heavy car for even the 5.0!  Maybe
Ford will slip in the 4.6 DOHC?  Anyone know?

Adam

>nau@SSESCO.com
-- 
		'Fast...
				...what to drive '
From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: SHO Electrical Troubles
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:35:18 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <1992Dec16.190101.21548@rtsg.mot.com>, pacyga@rtsg.mot.com (Jim 
Pacyga) writes:
> I had a similar problem with the intermittent wipers...Have you 
> ever take the turn signal stalk apart?  What a trip!!!  The FORD
> guys decided on a real great setup.  It has a an arm that travels
> across a metal plate to vary resistance to tell the thing how
> fast to cycle the wipers.  Needless to say this is an extremely 
> delicate setup (just what you need for the automotive industry!!)
> 
> Anyway, that may be your problem, the cost of the module is about 52.00
> and with labor is about 126.00 if you have a tilt steering wheel...


I haven't done anything outside of regular maintenance on this thing
since I bought it.  I'm afraid to touch it, and this is from a person
who used to take the L16 Datsun engine apart in an afternoon, and have it
back together that night!

I hope that what you've suggested is all there is to it.  I have to take it
in again anyway since my air conditioning has quit again (6th time).  
They can fix the wipers at the same time.

The SHO engine is the only thing on the car that seems reliable.  I guess
I'd better knock on wood!  Maybe I'll take the engine out and have it
mounted in my living room as a sculpture.


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com or 74616.2237@compuserve.com
SHO  GOZE
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: John_Greer@mindlink.bc.ca (John Greer)
Subject: Re: Toyota Previa
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:22:08 GMT

I don't know about Toyotas new suppository on wheels but my 84 LE (Toy) will
pack more stuff than the big 3 American modles. I have placed 4 X 8 sheets of
plywood in the back with about 6" to spare when I close the rear door. When
the mini vans first came out the Toy was the smallest (88" wheel base) but
hard the most cargo area. All the other vans have the engine sticking out
front. The Toys and Maz. all have crash protection around the bodies and
built in roll bars. Yes my 2 litre 4 banger is GUTLESS but who else offers an
ice MAKER as an option? :-)) But it's faster than a VW.

--
John Greer@mindlink.bc.can
85-FJ 1100
DoD #0260             A.I.M. #001078530
Jason Greer DoD #0260.5
From: winders@aux.support.apple.com (Scott Winders)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Do SPOILERS Really Work???
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:19:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Dec10.060531.18823@u.washington.edu>,
tt300zx@milton.u.washington.edu (twin turbo 300zx) wrote:
> 
> 
> 	does the so called 'spoiler' actually help to hold the car
> 	onto the road when traveling in high speed? diffrent spoilers
> 	for differnt cars, are they just some extra fancy accessories
> 	the car makers trying to pull on the car enthusiasts or
> 	do they really have something to do with the acutal performance
> 	of the car? maybe they're just made to improve the looks of
> 	your car???
> 
> 	i have friends who drive 'acura integra' w/ the wing and some
> 	without the wing -- the response is that there's not a bit of
> 	difference when driving like 90mph or even 100mph. 
> 
> 	and if u take a look at the 300zx wing design, it's a totally
> 	different 'thing' the the wing of integra's. does the 300zx
> 	wing actually work, i really doubt it...

On a 911, a chin spoiler and a whale tail increase overall downforce
and overall aerodynamic effeciency. You will probably notice a
difference at speeds as low as 45 MPH. Porsche designed their
spoilers for racing and moved them to their street cars. Most
cars will spoilers did not evolve in this way....

Scott Winders
winders@aux.support.apple.com

"My opinions are my own, not my employer's"
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Honda Del Sol
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:49:24
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: adil@austin.ibm.com's message of Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:33:55 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:33:55 GMT, adil@austin.ibm.com (Adil Soofi) said:

adil> I am considering buying the new Honda Del Sol. Any words of
adil> wisdom from rec.autos readers?

I have the dealer's brochure. It looks very nice. If I was in the
market for a new car, I would definately take one for a test drive at
the least. If you want specifics, I can post the stats...

--
 Scott Streeter                             Visit the Star Wars Archive at
 ss@wpi.wpi.edu                             wpi.wpi.edu       130.215.24.1
From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Chrysler Invented Cab-forward?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 14:37:44 GMT
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.202

aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>As far as the crap about believeing what i've seen on the net, yeah.i
>believed what i was told about them not having the room for a third(fourth,
>as i recall writing, which i believe you conveniently delted in the above,
>if you count the blasted EB pedal) pedal for the clutch.

If they go to a stick they'll probably use bucket seats in front
rather than a bench (guess why) meaning that they can use a
hand-activated emergency brake rather than the current pedal-activated
brake since they've got that whole center console to work with.  The
pedal-activated brake disappears, leaving you with room for your
clutch pedal.  Making room for the clutch isn't going to be a big
deal and if the guy who wrote otherwise had used his brain for a tenth
of a second he would have figured that out.

>At least Ford never hid the reasoning behind
>the availability of the auto in their SHO's.

I don't think the manufacturer is honor bound to tell me why they made
particular tradeoffs, but I can read between the lines.  I imagine
that Chrysler didn't introduce a stick initially because they didn't
have time to design and build both an auto and a stick; the LH was
built on a *very* lean schedule (which some of the ads mention).  If
you were an automobile manufacturer on the financial rocks who needed
a good car fast and you had the time to build one with a stick or one
with an auto, but not both, which would you pick?  That's a pretty
straightforward decision.

>This is one case where they are CLEARLY mis-
>representing the truth.  They are claiming that they do things for reasons
>that are, at best, side effects of the true and real reason, and, at worst,
>a complete load of crud!  Again, i still say, if they can't see their way
>clear to tell me the truth even in their ADVERTISING, i'm not even going to
>walk into the lot to hear the lines of sh** the sales****** will feed me!

Those ads are targetted towards a particular audience and that
audience isn't you.  The ones targetted towards you are for the
Vision, the sports model, where they tell you about the engine and the
suspension and all the nitty gritty details but don't go into
cosmetics like "cab forward" and "wheels pushed out to the corners."
Different audience, different ads, different details.  No mystery
there.

I may not like most of the ads but I do like the car, even without a
stick.  If it holds up reasonably well over time it'll save Chrysler's
life.

In closing I hate to tell you this but if you believe half of what
advertisers tell you you're going to get yanked around a lot.  That
goes for all products, not just cars.

jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: Re: Car purchasing advice.
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:22:12 GMT

In article <newlin.724561090@kraft.ecn.purdue.edu> newlin@kraft.ecn.purdue.edu (John Newlin) writes:
>Hi,
>
>  I am looking at buying a slightly used Mustang.  A dealer here
>  in town has an '89 LX 5.0, 45,000 miles.  This car buying business 
>  is new to me so I need some advice.  The car has obviously been 
>  in at least one wreck, and they want $9000.  I talked him down to $7k.
>  Any help will be appreciated.
>
>  First question:  What are your opinions on buying a car that has
>		   been wrecked?  The drive train appears to be ok.
never buy a car that has been wrecked!!!
>
>  Second question: When a dealer says, I can't go below a certain price
>		   and make a profit, is he lying?
they always lie...you don't care if he makes a 'profit' or not...you need to
decide what you will or won't pay...but since it has been wrecked ....
*keep looking*....
>
>
>Also, if this is not the correct group for this type of discussion 
>let me know.
>
>Thanks,
>
>-John  
>newlin@ecn.purdue.edu
>
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FORD TAURUS taillight RIPOFF!
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:57:08 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1992Dec11.143108.22642@news.cs.brandeis.edu> topgun@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Chandra Bajpai) writes:

>>>|> The plastic cover on my '92 Ford Taurus was broken. It now has about a
>>>|> 2-3 inch hole in the middle of it roughly over the taillight. I called
>>>|> Ford to see if they had a new plastic cover in stock and got a quote 
>>>|> for $131! They want to sell me an entire rear light assembly which 
>>>|> includes three lihts (backup, brake/turn, and tail), plastic cover, 
>>>|> metal assembly, etc.  
>>>|>   Has anyone found a way to get around this RIPOFF besides anchoring
>>>|> a piece of red cellophane over the hole?

Try a junkyard.
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
                    !!! H A P P Y   H O L I D A Y S !!!

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Not ALL YJs suck.........!!!!!
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:10:41 GMT

In article <14031@texsun.Central.Sun.COM>, dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard) writes:
> 
>> Trust me, very few Wranglers were abused the way I ripped mine up.
> 
> One thing that tickles me is when I bring my 92 in for service, complaining
> about the loose dash, or excessive wear on the carpet, or whatever.  (I've
> owned four other 4wds previously).  The service person says that this is an
> off-road, rugged utility vehicle, and that's why you can't expect the fit,
> finish, tightness, wearability, to be of the same level as a passenger vehicle.
> I retort that if this is indeed the case, then I would, if anything, expect
> the dash, carpet, etc., to be even more durable than a passenger car, and not
> less.  They never have a reply to that.
> 

Well I have a CJ-7, it was made by AMC.  I got it stuck in deep water the
first weekend I had it, rolled it within a year.  I understand the
statements regarding fit and finish, but what's a *dash* and *carpets*?

-- 
 ___________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Re: OLDsmobile name change
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:55:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.142004.5004@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>
>As far as the Chevy Antonio, does anyone know of car names that are actual
>PEOPLE first names? 

The "Mercedes" in Mercedes-Benz, of course. I'll let others haggle over the
exact origins. And don't forget the Edsel, named (I think) after one of
Henry Ford's sons. Or something like that. 

Although I doubt that Enzo had a daughter named 308GTB4 2+2, there was
someone in his family named Dino.
Alan
From: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: *** Acura Integra LS 88 ***
Date: 16 Dec 1992 01:59:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, nau@ssesco.com (William Nau) says:

>>>>>> On Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:27:50 GMT, mlleung@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Johnson Leung Man Leung) said:
[car stats deleted]
>In my view, any car with 121K on it has used up most of it's useful life.
>Sure, it may go to 150K, but that may be the worst 30K of that car's life.
>If it's in good shape, drop $5000 off the price (Honda/Acura is overpriced
                                                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>on their used stuff.  I'd never buy one used.).
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~oh..it's ok..they come from the factory that way! :-)
DREW
From: milo@dorm.rutgers.edu (Jim  mielo)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: RADAR DETECTOR
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:56:13 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: rutgers university

In article <1992Dec15.105619@usho72.hou281.chevron.com>,
hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) wrote:
> 
> In article <3360201@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>, chuang@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Chi Huang) writes:
> |> I am thinkof  buying a radar detector, but have the following questions:
> 
> |> 1. What is ka wideband? Is this only use by the photo-radar, or not?

     Photo radar is a flop. most states are finding it difficult to enforce
since the picture may be of a friend driving your car but you still get the
ticket. plus, the big brother thing and the difficulty of preparing a legal
defense since the ticket comesin the mail weeks later.

    In NJ, the thing was baned ( by a new law) I think one of the people
who got nailed in a test run was a NJ senator or congressman.

  BTW the stalker requires the wideband detector.( photo radar only
operates on a narrow part of Ka but the stalker can use any part of it)
Important since stalker seems to be a big item on cops christmas list


          



> |> I am looking at Corba Trapshotter RD-6000W and want to know your experience
> |> with it if you have one. Thankx in advance for your reply.
> 
>   Well, the Cobra is better than nothing but three best are the
>   Valentine 1, Bell 966STW, Passport 3200.

       I got the passport and it's not as well made as I thought it would
be. Also, before you buy wait for a new test that includes the new uniden
they just came out with. The market is changing really fast now.

       The valentine is #1 according to a recent car and driver test.
        avoid whistlers and cobras aren't that sensitive I would avoid them
too.
       the new uniden might be something to look at due to the excellence
of their RD9XL but I'd wait for a test.



 

James Mielo
Rutgers College of Pharmacy '94
milo@dorm.rutgers.edu

 owner of a now fixed 1990 GTi 8v
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From: drayer-rebecca@yale.edu (Rebecca Drayer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers,misc.kids,talk.politics.medicine,sci.med
Subject: Re: Seat Belts Releasing in Crashes: Institute for Injury Reduction
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:55:40 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering, New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In article <1992Dec11.211435.1517@radian.uucp> kathrynw%radian@natinst.com (Kathryn Whitworth) writes:
>
>I'd say that medical notes indicating presence of bruises in the appropriate
>places would be decent proof that one was wearing a seatbelt.  I don't know
>how indicative absence of bruises would be.
>

Depending on the actual mechanism of the accident, I'd say that absence of
bruises might be pretty significant.  For instance, a few years ago I was
carpooling to a summer job as a camp counselor.  The guy I was driving
with fell asleep at the wheel (while driving way too fast), went off the
road, and hit a telephone pole head on.

I wasn't too coherent at the time, but I was told that the car was
totaled and the telephone pole was severely dented.  I was also told that
the two of us had mirror image bruises from the seatbelts.

My point is, that with an accident that severe, a lack of seatbelt bruises
would be pretty convincing evidence in my book.



-- 
Rebecca A. Drayer, EMT-A            |    drayer@minerva.cis.yale.edu
Neurobiology major                  |    Computing Assistant
                                    |    Silliman College, Yale University
From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Elvis in HotDogMobile!!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:13:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Dec14.223246.7467@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, awds_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Adam Edwards) writes:
|> I saw something very interesting this afternoon on campus.
|> An Oscar Meyer Mobile pulled up in front of a dorm! 
|> Has anyone ever seen one for real, or is it just the fact that
|> I'm a young'n and wouldn't remember such a thing from the past?
|> I do remember a car magazine article roadtesting one of these
|> however.  Sounds like excellent group transportation!
|> 
|> Adam

 WOW!  What a coincidence!  There was a blurb about the
 Oscar Meyer WeineMobiles on TV this weekend!

 They've been around since the late 50's or early 60's.
 Mostly in the Northeast, I believe it said.  Not all
 were identical.  Some bigger, smaller, different seating,
 different drivetrains, etc.

 Still around today and you must audition to be one of 
 the crew - mostly marketing majors.  We have to learn
 a whole slew of weine jokes.  What joy!

 "Oh wouldn't like you like to be an Oscar Meyer Weiner?"

 TRAVIS
From: ramachandran@amreto.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Toyota Tercel Problem - can u help ?
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:53:41 GMT
Reply-To: ramachandran@amreto.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Appreciate your input in deciphering this problem which cropped up
recently with 
'84 Tercel:
	  The car  stalls when doing REVERSE and  occasionally on DRIVE when
	stopping at the lights (especially when coming to a faster brake than
usual)
	Also the idle rpm sounds better on PARK and NUETRAL than on DRIVE.  
	Engine seems to be fine.  Can this be because of tuning or is it a
problem
	with the TRANSMISSION system ?

	The car behaves quite well in summer time except when the AC is
	turned on, and the idle rpm goes down further.  The problem in the
	last few days has worsened and now i need to keep one foot on the
	accelerator almost everytime i start the car or idle the engine..

	Any help from previous Tercel owners /auto doctors will be appreciated.


ram