From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,ca.politics
Subject: Re: The Harrassing Phone Calls Can Stop NOW!
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:04:04 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <mike02560920813232204@batpad.lgb.ca.us>, mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor) writes:
> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
> > In article <1992Sep10.154451.1822@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
# # # I'd vote for it...
# # 
# # So would I.  Of course, I think I would prefer to remove marriage
# # from the government's involvement completely.  The state sanctioning
# # of a religious rite seems a little questionable on First Amendment
# # grounds.
# # 
# # Equal protection from police?  You've got it now -- which is to
# # say, straights aren't safe either.  My brother-in-law's wife was
# # thrown to the ground, kicked and punched repeatedly, with cracked
# # ribs, concussion, bruises, etc.  The police arrived 90 minutes 
# # later, there was a stack of witnesses attending the same picnic,
# # and they weren't particularly interested in pursuing the criminals
# # who did it.
# # -- 
# # Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
# # Alcohol prohibition didn't work; drug prohibition doesn't work; gun
# # prohibition won't work.
# 
# Unbelievable bullshit.
# 
# First of all, why do you refer to your sister as your
# "brother-in-law's wife?"  Nobody talks like that.  You made it up.  Or
# else your sister is married to a polygamist.

My wife's brother is married to a woman named Robin.  Robin was beat
up.  Is this a little clearer to you?

# Secondly, why were all your relatives standing around at this picnic
# in broad daylight watching your sister get beat up?  Or do your

They weren't standing around watching.  She had wandered to a play-
ground with an unrelated five year old some distance away, and the
other people from this church picnic (NOT relatives) at first didn't
realize there was a problem.  Have you ever been 200 yards away from
an argument, and only gradually realized it?  As soon as they noticed,
they appeared.

# relatives have picnics in dark alleys after midnight?  Oh, I see - it
# must have been a Kramer Klan Konklave, huh?

I wouldn't stay in the same park with the Klan.  In fact, people
like me may be the only defense that people like you will have from
whatever manifestation of the Klan ends up in control of this 
country after the next Great Depression.

# Lastly, didn't anybody have a gun?  No?  I thought you'd have given
# your sister a .38 for her wedding present.

1. It is nearly impossible to get a concealed weapon permit in
Sacramento County.

2. My brother-in-law is a recovering drug addict -- one of those
people who I strongly discourage from owning a gun, because of the
potential of backsliding into his drug addiction, with unpleasant
consequences.

# You're so full of shit, your eyes are brown.  But I got a good laugh
# out of it.
# 
# [] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us

I'm always amazed that someone can get so much pleasure out of
someone else's suffering.  You, and those people who see something
"neat" about AIDS killing off homosexuals, have a lot in common.



-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
There can be no peace as long as AB 2601 lives.
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