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From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscov
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:48:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Shacha Jorge!

[jd]>Orrrr, maybe Spock IS a descendent of Sherlock Holmes.  I mean, they're
     both fictional characters, after all.  :-)

     What?!!!  Spock, a fictional character!  Say it isn't soooo!!!!!!

What is it you have, that you don't like that thought? >8-)
But this remembers me: A friend of my friend Sylvia has written a series of
short stories dealing with this (she lives in France, I don't know her origin
and writes in German). Perhaps I should ask her for permission for translation
and posting it here in - um - Trek.Creat (the long names of your groups cannot
be handled by your net, but I hope, you know, which one I mean)?

Oyori - Sem [from hot Northern Germany surrounded by Olympic fans ...]

PS: Is it really necessary to post these mails in both groups? I've got more
    "dupes" than news ... and soon a very angry husband because it takes him
    so long to get my file(s!)
From: alexv@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: New season start date
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:34:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <3668@vidiot.UUCP>, brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
> In article <1992Jul20.163714.19738@nntp.uoregon.edu> Eric_Gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric gorr) writes:
> <In article <3655@vidiot.UUCP>, brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
> <> 
> <> In article <1992Jul16.214818.14139@nntp.uoregon.edu> eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (eric gorr) writes:
> <> <So, does anyone know when the new season of ST:TNG will begin?  I am
>> 
> The problem is that every week, we keep repeating ourselves.  Schedules have
> been posted in the past.  It is kind-of-like talking to an empty room, that
> decides to listen after you leave.  By then the info has come and gone.
> 
> Is it really that hard to take a previous schedule and think just a wee bit?
> -- 
  The problem is that some of us do not have schedules... You know?  For my
part, all I have is a small color tv that doesn't even work all the time.
So, if you *really* don't mind, I would like to know the date...???
Thank you ever so much....
-AlexV
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: hurley@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Brian Hurley)
Subject: Re: Minuet
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:18:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.151632.16686@crash.cts.com> rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (System Administrator) writes:
>How many episodes did Carolyn McCormack appear in as Minuet?


Two.  That I can recall.

"11001001" and "Future Imperfect".   In the latter she was shown in 'home
movies as Riker's wife.

bh

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: wity@IASTATE.EDU (Jean-Luc Picard)
Subject: RE: Trekkers in unexpected places
Reply-To: wity@IASTATE.EDU (Jean-Luc Picard)
Organization: Iowa State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:28:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.033027.10640@menudo.uh.edu>, HADCUJEK@admin.uh.edu (Julia
Ellan Kosatka) writes:
> In <21JUL199219510403@cs.umass.edu> atkin@cs.umass.edu writes: 
> > 
> > Is Star Trek so much a part of American culture nowadays that being a fan
is
> > no big deal anymore? Or do people still look at you funny when you announce
> > you're a Trekkie/Trekker? (I kind of remember a recent thread suggesting
that
> > women were often turned of by that kind of statement.)
> 
> Only women with no taste! :-)
> 


WOW, I LIKE THAT COMMENT!
   

>
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> University of Houston             I *have* a life...why the h**l do you think
> Administrative Computing                  I need Science Fiction!?!
> User Services
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: Merlin <mnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Hooters and Sirtis
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:45:44 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

	Get real guys, Sirtis is flat-chested compared to the girl in the
medical center with Crusher that one time. Remember the episode where the
entire crew lost their memory and an alien was using the enterprise
to destory one of its enemies? That girl in the bathing suit made
Sirits look like a flat board.
	Sirits is not all that great people. She has a nice smile, pretty
face, pretty eyes, and good hair but she has no great body.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM (Peter Taylor - Sun Toronto)
Subject: Re: None provided
Reply-To: ptaylor@airfarce.Canada.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:50:07 GMT


In a posting to r.a.s.i., Hywel Williams <cshjw@pyr.swan.ac.uk> () writes:
> This is the latest information regarding Star Trek in the UK:
>
{chunk re BBC deleted}
>  
> I then called Sky who told me that they intend to start showing ST:TNG in
> September/October of this year.  Details are still sketchy but it is likely
> that they will start at the beginning of Season 1, showing 5 nights a week
> Monday - Friday.  They will be broadcasted in Stereo and will not have the
> "violent" bits cut out a la BBC. 

That boggles the mind......what kind of stuff did the beeb delete?
How often did they do it?


>				The only episode not to be shown will be 
> The High Ground (for the same reasons as the BBC refused to show it).

Sorry if this has been asked before, but what reasons were those?

___________________________________________________________________________
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From: jfy@cis.ksu.edu (Joseph F. Young)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Archive site for Startrek fan fiction
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: 31 Jul 1992 00:17:13 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu

[This posting is for those who might be interested in the stories which
are appearing in alt.startrek.creative, but can't get them, because their
site doesn't get the alt hierarchy.  The following was posted to
alt.startrek.creative last week.]
............................................................................
For all those unfortunates who don't have Internet ftp access, I've
setup a mailserver to provide access to the archives on
ftp.cis.ksu.edu.

This mailserver can be contacted via mail one of the following
addresses:

...!rutgers!depot!mailserver  (UUCP)
mailserver@cis.ksu.edu        (Internet)

The server accepts commands given in the body of the mail messages;
help is available with the command "help".  

A listing of the files in
the story archive may be obtained by "dir -l /pub/Startrek/stories".

Since the story archive consists of UNIX compressed files, they must
be uuencoded before they are sent on their way.  To specify this mode,
use the command "encode uuencode"  To retrieve the files, use the
"send" command (ex:  send /pub/Startrek/stories/Bestseller.Z).

Here is an example mail message:

% Mail mailserver@cis.ksu.edu
Subject: request 
help
encode uue     
send /pub/Startrek/stories/Bestseller.Z
^D
%

Please note that this is completely experimental and is not bug free.
Questions and problems about this mailserver may be directed to
"mailserver-reply@cis.ksu.edu".

Here's my periodic blurb about the alt.startrek creative archive:
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As I've seen many inquiries about an anonymous ftp archive for the
stories that appear in alt.startrek.creative.  As others have
mentioned, I maintain an archive on ftp.cis.ksu.edu (129.130.10.80) in
the directory /pub/Startrek/stories.  All files are compressed using
the UNIX LZW ".Z" compression used by the "compress" and "uncompress"
programs.  For non-UNIX systems, there are sourcess and binaries
available to handle files in this format on various archive sites.

If you find a story that I've missed, especially any of the ones that
appeared early in the life of this group or in the rec.arts.startrek.*
groups, mail it to me (jfy@cis.ksu.edu) or upload it to /pub/upload on
the archive site.

If you have an contributions to the archive, suggestions, etc. you
may email them to me.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Subject: Re: Shatner proposes idea for Star Trek VII
Organization: R-Node Public Access UNIX System (416-249-5366) - 24 hrs
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:26:39 GMT


In article <1992Jul19.084645.3664@leela.cs.orst.edu> petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU
(Marguerite Petersen) writes:
>In article <1992Jul15.070216.5078@r-node.gts.org> yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yun
g) writes:
>>
>>Just one guy's opinion: It is not just bad, it is not just boring. ST V
>>is OFFENSIVE. The entire story was stupid and incoherent. Worst of all,
>>it raised the biggest question of mankind (re:God> and drop it as if it
>>wasn't there in the first place.
>
>And here is another's opinion.  I really *liked* ST V!  I did not think it
>was boring, bad, or stupid!  Would you have preferred that ST V *answer*
>the biggest question of mankind for you?
If they have the right answer, YES!!! :^)

Watch the movie again and you will see that neither Kirk, Spock or McCoy were
actually *interested* in meeting(not searching) with god. ST V offered, nor
did it even try, absolutely no new perspective to the big question.

> That would have been offensive
>in my opinion.  What ST V did was make one think and question just what
>we follow, (whatever it is) and remind us to not do it blindly.
>Not a bad idea, IMHO.
>
 
We will have to agree to disagree here. Personally, I don't know *anybody*,
when facing the question of religion, do not "think and question" what
they are following. I don't need a movie to point out something so balantly
obvious.

>>Before ST V, my feeling for Shatner was absolutely neutral. Now I can
>>see why people see him as an ego maniac. In short, ST V was nothing but
>>an ego trip for Shatner.
>
>I certainly don't see ST V as an ego trip for Shatner.  I think he did a
>good job.  I agree with Atsushi.  I believe this dislike of ST V is more
>a reflection of dislike of William Shatner than anything wrong with the
>movie.  I have to admit that I came out of the theater after seeing
>ST V, very disturbed.  But not with the movie itself.  After some thought
>I realized I was disturbed by what the movie was examining, not by the
>movie.  In retrospect, ST V is a very good movie.  I don't expect
>the movies to answer all my questions about the universe.  I do expect
>to be entertained.  I was definitely entertained!
>

All I can say is I feel very differently. I remember I was looking forward
to the release of ST V very eagerly during the summer of 89 but didn't get 
the chance to see it in theater because I was in Hong Kong at the time. 
When I come back from Hong Kong, literally everybody told me how ST V 
bombs royally. With that in mind, I went out and rented the video and 
thought I was fully prepare for ST V, no matter how bad it was. I was wrong.

I don't know about other people, but I didn't dislike Shatner before
ST V. Now I dislike him because of STV.

                   

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From: mfjg8782@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. Frank G. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: top 10 list
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:11:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BrqvJ6.2F9
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Top ten most annoying things Riker does.

10 . every time Picard walks into a room , ask someone the 
           number for hair club for men

9. during a battle, stare at Troi and think dirty thoughts

8. make fun of Worf's beard

7. yell at the guy who cleans his uniform for shrinking it more every week

6. passing out in the big chair after a drink a thon in 10 forward

5. comparing Data to other Disney characters 

4.  wearing an extra pip on this collar on shore leave to impress the women

3.  accept a captain's position, turn it down; accept a captain's position, turn it down  and  so on

2.  brag about being able to handle two klingon women but never try to prove it

1.  beer slides down to torpedo tubes
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.misc:7767 rec.arts.startrek.tech:4335
From: learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:49:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Organization: Lehigh University

esf007@cck.coventry.ac.uk writes:
> Talking of equal and opposite reactions,  In ST3:TSFS kirk fires at the
> klingon who hit the tree, and the beam from kirks phasor direction connects
> kirk and the klingon. Shouldn't there be a hell of a kick from the phasor.
> or at least a feedback because of the link fron kirk to the klingon , if the
> bean manages to push the klingon into a tree the beam has to push from
> somewhere, i.e kirk,  so we  should see the klingon go one way and kirk on 
> the floor going, I wish it didn't do that everytime I wanna shoot somebody!

I would assume the phaser comes equipped with some way of either absorbing or
redirecting the recoil effect.  Or maybe Kirk was just ready and the Klingon
wasn't.


Dave Learn, Knight of the Wolves         "What an extraordinary thing to
dl20@lafayacs.bitnet                      do--and you only a stutterer."
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: New season start date
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:12:42 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <3681@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.195311.3421@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Patrick.D.Warn@dartmouth.edu (Patrick D. Warn) writes:
><In article <3668@vidiot.UUCP>
><brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:

><> The problem is that every week, we keep repeating ourselves.  Schedules have
><> been posted in the past.  It is kind-of-like talking to an empty room, that
><> decides to listen after you leave.  By then the info has come and gone.
 
>I don't control the FAQ.  You don't have to read the net.  Just look at what
>is currently playing, determine where that is in the original count of 26
>episodes.  Just count forward on your favorite calendar.

How quickly they forget.  Do you remember that after the first season, the
start date of the second season was so delayed that they ran some of the
episodes a THIRD time?  True, there was a strike at the time, but the point
is, it can happen.  Also, stations have been known to hold back episodes
to save for reruns during the next season, rather than running the same
episode twice in six weeks.  This also means that, if a batch of episodes
are already complete, they can start when they want to rather than waiting
until all the old episodes are exhausted. 

>Thinking produces wonders.

Sauce for the goose...
From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Dumb Question
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:23:33 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <47510003@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>, mhampsch@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Mark Hampsch) writes:
> His name is 'Laqtis'(sp) and is called by that name in one there TNG show.
> 
> 
> 	Mark Hampsch
> 	hp Boise,ID


Arrgh!  What is it with names & spelling in this ?  It's Locutus,
which comes from Latin and means (approximately) "speaker" or "one
who speaks"  OK?
From: 10726446@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (LAU WAI KUEN)
Subject: Re: A silly Top 10 List
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:42:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.040102.27257@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (Hanan Polanski) writes:
>From: hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu (Hanan Polanski)
>Subject: Re: A silly Top 10 List
>Date: 21 Jul 92 04:01:02 GMT

>In <20JUL92.12311290@umbc1.umbc.edu> noel@umbc1.umbc.edu writes:


>>TOP 10 REASONS PATRICK STEUART WAS VOTED MOST BODACIOUS MALE

>>1.  His bald head makes him look like a giant er, uh, you know.

>No. I don't.  Giant Captain of a starship? um, Giant "before"
>picture in ads for bad hair-pieces? er, Giant loaf of bread??

>I give up....
>                                James Willer at hpky@gauguin.cc.rochester.edu
>                                        OR jmw1388@cs.rit.edu
>{The opinions above probably aren't those of
> Hanan Polansky. I don't know. I didn't ask.}

    Don't be silly.  He looks like a giant tortise on top of a puny body.
:)
bwhahahahahaha!

Halycon
From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Missing endings for STVI???
Date: 27 Jul 92 04:24:44 GMT
Distribution: canada,usa
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <1992Jul26.031358.47855@chili.cc.lehigh.edu> learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn) writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.224400.5116@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, p5ku@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (BAMFORD) writes:
>> 
>> 	Back in the fall when STVI was in its final editing stages,
>> I heard this rumor, which I'm wondering if anyone else heard.  Apparently,
>> they had filmed three different endings to the film, one of which
>> involved the deaths of THREE MAJOR CHARACTERS.  Does anyone know anything
>> about this, or have heard anything to this effect?  Just curious.
>
>As I understood, up until near the end of filming, Kirk died a hero's 
>death in saving the Federation president from the Klingon assassin.  If
>you watch the sequence closely, Kirk even gets hit by the phaser shot as
>he throws the pres. to the ground.  Too bad--as much as I like Kirk, I
>think the movie would have been improved by his death.
>
>Dave Learn, Knight of the Wolves         "What an extraordinary thing to
>dl20@lafayacs.bitnet                      do--and you only a stutterer."

I heard this as well and I agree with you that it would have made ST VI
a *much* better movie, IMHO.  It would also have made Spock's comments in
Unification more understandable.

Marg
aka Elvira
From: Jeff Lee <jlee@smylex.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Klingons unpopular?  (was Re: SOUNDS GOOD TO ME--ST 7 idea)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:15:15 EDT
Organization: Shipbrook Software  (Tampa, FL)

In article <14gdveINNnp1@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM (John O'Neil - SunExpress IR) writes:
> From zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)
> 
> When asked if there will be any Klingons in the new movie, Myer
> replied that he didn't want to open that can of worms again about
> the large differences between TOS Klingons and TNG/movie Klingons.
> He says they've been done to death anyway in the movies and TNG
> and that their popularity is very low now anyway.

What universe are *they* in?

I, for one, always *enjoy* the Klingon episodes -- the glimpses of alien
culture are always intriguing...

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From: PCHEWNI@auvm.american.edu (Peter Chewning)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:39:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

There was only one problem with reviving Capt. Pike. Jeffrey Hunter died in
1968.

 I WILL NOT USE THE OBVIOUS QUOTE....
YES, I WILL, TOO.
"HE"S DEAD, JIM."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: shatner proposes idea
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:30:55 GMT


In article <1992Jul30.3210.7041@dosgate> "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:
>>The only "A" I've given out all year is not something I'd call a joke.
>
>>But then, given that you're the only poster I have a 100% record
>>of disagreeing with, this is nothing surprising (admittedly,
>>"BR" wasn't aimed at children either.)
>
>I find that VERY hard to believe!  I'm the ONLY one who disagrees with
>you 100% of the time?  Come on...  Atsushi Kanorami (sp?), the ultimate
>critisist of all of TNG, the be all and end all of reviews, only has ONE
>constant complainer?  

Well, I can't think of anyone. Even Dean Adams and I have agreed on a few
(*very* few) things.



>"BR" was disappointing, I'll just say that.  I can't understand how you
>can like that kind of film but put down so much work put into ever TNG
>episode.  

I'm sure far more work was put into "BR" than any TV episode. As for
why I prefer it to Trek, I gave my reasons in my last response.



>"BR" was hyped up too much 

We all *knew* it would be hyped from here to Olympus. I've never
given a film credence because of hype (especially marketing hype),
but on the other side of the coin, if I *enjoy* a movie, I'm not going
hold hype against it either. 

I enjoyed "BR" tremendously; probably more than any movie I can think
of in recent years and far, *far* more than the vast majority of Trek
movies/episodes.



>and turned out to be, well, unrealistic.

You expect realism from a movie about a man who dresses up in a rubber
bat suit to fight crime? "BR" did stray into the far-fetched on more
than a few occasions, but I found those quite insignificant next
to the characters, humor, imagery and music. I'll take imperfectly
fun over competently dull (i.e. TNG) any day.


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