HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lhawkins@olaf.wellesley.edu (Lee Hawkins)
Subject: UnixPC and related hardware and software for sale.
Organization: Wellesley College
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:00:44 GMT


Prices on everything marked obo are negotiable.  All others are FIRM.  
Prices DO NOT include shipping, COD, or (only in the case of the 7300) packing 
charges.  I make NO guarantees about the condition of the 7300 or the Dos-73 
board, other than that they were working fine when I shipped them! 
I will ship these items UPS COD, and email you the price
including shipping just after I have shipped it and know the number.
Lastly, I will deliver the 7300 (and ONLY the 7300---NOT the software) within 
50 miles of Wellesley.  Alternatively, you may pick up any of the items
at a prearraged time at my office at the Observatory at Wellesley
College.


Hardware:

	Qty.			Description			Price ea.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
	1	Dos-73 Board, Manuals, and Software		$125 obo
	1	7300, 512k MB, 20Mb. HD				$275 obo


Software:

	Qty.			Description			Price ea.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
	1*	ATT SuperCOMP 20 Spread Sheet			$25
	1*	ATT Business Graphics				$25
	1	Microsoft Multiplan				$50 obo
	1	ATT System Software and Manuals v3.51		$75
	1	ATT System Software and Manuals v3.0		$25
	

*Since these two work together, I'll let them go as a set for $40.

________________________________________________________________________________
R. Lee Hawkins					 lhawkins@annie.wellesley.edu
Department of Astronomy				 lhawkins@lucy.wellesley.edu
Whitin Observatory
Wellesley College                                   Ph. 617-283-2708
Wellesley, MA 02181                                 FAX 617-283-3642
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: adw3345@ultb.isc.rit.edu (A.D. Williams)
Subject: Silly question - interrupt signal
Originator: adw3345@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:08:44 GMT


 This is probably a silly question, but unfortunatley I don't have the
complete set of the 3B1 FM's-

 What is the interrupt key for the KSH shell? I would expect this to
be control-c, but often it doesn't seem to work. Normally this wouldn't
be a problem, but I'm using the 3b1 for school programming assignments.
Sometimes my programs go into infinite loops, and it's a pain to 
bash every key on the keyboard in hopes I find the mystical interrupt
keypress.

                                                Thanks-


                                                           Derrick

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
From: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: Pascal Compiler
Reply-To: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:12:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.133649.23666@a.cs.okstate.edu>, boone@a.cs.okstate.edu (BOONE BARRY EDWARD) writes:
>From article <1OCT199214554242@vx.cis.umn.edu>, by daven@vx.cis.umn.edu (David Nieters):
>and is carried in this country by Larry Conners.
>
... typically, at a price few would pay.  No wonder it did not get much
    exposeure!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
From: daven@vx.cis.umn.edu (David Nieters)
Subject: Pascal Compiler
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:55:00 GMT

Does anyone have any exposure to the Pascal compiler TI had that used the
P-card?  Was it any good?  I've been kicking around the idea of writing a
Pascal compiler for my TI.  Any thoughts, comments?  Am I wasting my time?

David Nieters
University of Minnesota
daven@vx.acs.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
From: jcgreen@iastate.edu (Jon Green)
Subject: TI Pro 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:22:10 GMT

I recently bought a TI Pro Portable at the university surplus warehouse
for $25, and I am looking for software for it (specifically an operating
system!)  So far, all IS can do is turn on the power switch and listen
to it beep.  Not real exciting there.  Any suggestions?


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From: chyde@CHESAPEAKE.ADS.COM (Clinton Hyde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti.explorer
Subject: serial cable and modems
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:26:17 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet


I've got a high-speed modem now, and want to use with my E1. I've
tried connecting the two, but I get no response from the modem. this
suggests that the connection needs a "null-modem" widget in there. 

unfortunately, I've lost the one I had, so I haven't tried it.

does anyone know this for a fact? I can print just fine with the
serial cable as it is. I haven't tried connecting it to anything else,
because to do file transfer, I've generally downloaded to the
MacIvory, the used copy-file to move things to the Explorer.

 -- clint

(i used to be an expert on the serial stuff, but that was back in 86.
now I can only remember how to start up Kermit)
From: bonasso@STARBASE.MITRE.ORG (R. Peter Bonasso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti.explorer
Subject: Info on MicroExplorer
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:22:59 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet


   Sender: RICE@KSL-EXP-35.stanford.edu
   Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92  13:10:55 PDT
   From: James Rice <Rice@SUMEX-AIM.Stanford.Edu>


   >>  I'm one of the last purchasers of a uExp relesase 6.1.
   >>  I have 8 MB of uExp memory.  I'm trying to find out if
   >>  any outfit supports increasing the amount of memory I
   >>  have to say 16 MB.  Anyone have any info?

   I seem to recall that we tried pushing hard on TI to up
   the memory capacity of the mX, but there's a hard physical
   limit of 12Mb in the on-board addressing.  To change this
   they'd have had to remask the big ASIC they have and they
   didn't fancy doing it.  At the time, I believe, they were
   so impressed with the performance of their TGC that they
   really thought that people would not want more physical
   memory (ha).

So how might I get to 12 MB? Swap chips on the board?

Pete
From: bonasso@STARBASE.MITRE.ORG (R. Peter Bonasso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti.explorer
Subject: Info on MicroExplorer
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:50:55 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet


   Sender: pf@Islington-Terrace.csc.ti.com
   Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92  09:38:55 CDT
   Moon: Waxing Crescent (20% of full)
   From: Paul Fuqua <pf@islington-terrace.hc.ti.com>

       Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1992  2:51pm (CDT)
       From: bonasso at starbase.MITRE.ORG (R. Peter Bonasso)
       Subject: Info on MicroExplorer 

       I'm also interested if anyone has a patch to allow the uExp to use more
       than one serial port on the Mac II.

   >From a quick look at the source, it appears that on a microExplorer you
   can specify an extra keyword to SYS:MAKE-SERIAL-STREAM, :PORT, which can
   be either :A or :B for the two ports.  I don't actually have access to a
   microExplorer, so I can't guarantee that it works.  The relevant file is
   sys:serial;mx-serial-stream.lisp.

Thanks for the lead, Paul. Alas, after making a stream for port a, upon trying
to make one for port b I get a "couldn't rd/wr/ctl/sts cause driver not
opened", TB:SIGNAL-USERR <- TB:!CONTROL <- TB:!SERRESET.

SO I guess there needs to be a driver which TI never got around to making.
Perhaps it's a toolbox hack that needs to be set up. I dunno.

Pete
From: mhd@israel.UUCP (Mark H David)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti.explorer
Subject: Meta-. with C sources for Explorers?
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:03:47 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

Working on Explorer II+'s running OS 6.0, basically, we'd like to be
able to set up tags tables so that Meta-.  works over a set of C
sources (along with other tags operations).  The C mode sectionization
stuff from the public directory seems very primitive.  Is there
anything (better) out there?


Thank you in advance.

-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------
Mark H. David                      | mhd@gensym.com
Gensym Corporation                 | 617-547-2500
125 CambridgePark Drive            |
Cambridge, Massachusetts  02140    |
From: bonasso@STARBASE.MITRE.ORG (R. Peter Bonasso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti.explorer
Subject: Info on MicroExplorer
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:51:19 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet



I'm one of the last purchasers of a uExp relesase 6.1. I have 8 MB of uExp
memory. I'm trying to find out if any outfit supports increasing the amount of
memory I have to say 16 MB. Anyone have any info?

I'm also interested if anyone has a patch to allow the uExp to use more than
one serial port on the Mac II. My application is robot control and I need to
get sensor info on one port and send control info thru the other port. I can
always get into the source but if someone has it done already, it'd save me
some time.

Finally, does anyone have a set of manual change pages from release 6.0 to
release 6.1? My release 6.0 manuals seem okay, but I dread the day I will need
to reference some detail about 6.1. TI has chucked all their spare manuals.


Pete
From: bonasso@STARBASE.MITRE.ORG (R. Peter Bonasso)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti.explorer
Subject: Want to Buy 12MB MicroExplorer Boards
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:25:07 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet


My lab is interested in purchasing a 12 MB set of MicroExplorer boards (mother
+ daughter boards). Anyone have a set that they want to get rid of?

Pete
From: Rice@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (James Rice)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti.explorer
Subject: Re: Info on MicroExplorer
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:10:55 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet


>>  I'm one of the last purchasers of a uExp relesase 6.1.
>>  I have 8 MB of uExp memory.  I'm trying to find out if
>>  any outfit supports increasing the amount of memory I
>>  have to say 16 MB.  Anyone have any info?

I seem to recall that we tried pushing hard on TI to up
the memory capacity of the mX, but there's a hard physical
limit of 12Mb in the on-board addressing.  To change this
they'd have had to remask the big ASIC they have and they
didn't fancy doing it.  At the time, I believe, they were
so impressed with the performance of their TGC that they
really thought that people would not want more physical
memory (ha).

>>  I'm also interested if anyone has a patch to allow the
>>  uExp to use more than one serial port on the Mac II.
>>  My application is robot control and I need to get
>>  sensor info on one port and send control info thru the
>>  other port.  I can always get into the source but if
>>  someone has it done already, it'd save me some time.

Sorry, no idea.

>>  Finally, does anyone have a set of manual change pages
>>  from release 6.0 to release 6.1?  My release 6.0
>>  manuals seem okay, but I dread the day I will need to
>>  reference some detail about 6.1.  TI has chucked all
>>  their spare manuals.

I don't recall any significant changes between the two,
but then that was quite a while back.

>>  Pete


Rice.
From: nagase@foxtrot.dsg.ti.com (N Nagase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti.explorer
Subject: Re: serial cable and modems
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:47:41 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet


  >> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 17:26:17 EDT
  >> From: chyde@chesapeake.ads.com (Clinton Hyde)
  >> Subject: serial cable and modems
  >> 
  >> 
  >> I've got a high-speed modem now, and want to use with my E1. I've
  >> tried connecting the two, but I get no response from the modem. this
  >> suggests that the connection needs a "null-modem" widget in there. 
  >> 
  >> unfortunately, I've lost the one I had, so I haven't tried it.
  >> 
  >> does anyone know this for a fact? I can print just fine with the
  >> serial cable as it is. I haven't tried connecting it to anything else,
  >> because to do file transfer, I've generally downloaded to the
  >> MacIvory, the used copy-file to move things to the Explorer.
  >> 
  >>  -- clint
  >> 
  >> (i used to be an expert on the serial stuff, but that was back in 86.
  >> now I can only remember how to start up Kermit)

Clint,

A null-modem is required if you are using a TI cable part#
2303070-xxxx, while one is not required with a cable part#
2303077-xxxx.  I do not think a printer cable will work with Explorer
Kermit.  If you need a pin-outs, I may be able to get one unless they
have already been sent to HP.  This question pops up about once a
year (comes from an ex-Personal Consultant user on an Explorer.) They
used to Kermit to transfer knowledge databases between an Explorer
and a PC.

-- Nobi
From: acuff@CAMIS.STANFORD.EDU (Richard Acuff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti.explorer
Subject: Re: Info on MicroExplorer
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:43:10 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet

The mX has 4MB on the main processor, plus an optional 4MB or 8MB on a sister
board.  Though the 4MB and 8MB memory boards look a lot alike, I don't know that
you can get away with just plugging in chips to go from 4 to 8.  I suspect not.

        -- Rich
From: pf@islington-terrace.hc.ti.com (Paul Fuqua)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti.explorer
Subject: Re: Info on MicroExplorer
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:38:55 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: The Internet


    Date: Tuesday, September 29, 1992  2:51pm (CDT)
    From: bonasso at starbase.MITRE.ORG (R. Peter Bonasso)
    Subject: Info on MicroExplorer 
    
    I'm also interested if anyone has a patch to allow the uExp to use more than
    one serial port on the Mac II.

From a quick look at the source, it appears that on a microExplorer you
can specify an extra keyword to SYS:MAKE-SERIAL-STREAM, :PORT, which can
be either :A or :B for the two ports.  I don't actually have access to a
microExplorer, so I can't guarantee that it works.  The relevant file is
sys:serial;mx-serial-stream.lisp.
    
    Finally, does anyone have a set of manual change pages from release 6.0 to
    release 6.1?

I vaguely remember 6.1 as a patch release, plus CLX, CLUE, and CLIO (all
of which are documented elsewhere).  However, I don't really remember.
I don't believe I have any manual updates, and I haven't missed
anything.  (Of course, as an old lispm hacker, my inclination is always
to check the source first.)

Paul Fuqua                     pf@hc.ti.com, ti-csl!pf
Texas Instruments, Dallas, Texas

"If Unix is the answer, surely we've forgotten the question."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
From: boone@a.cs.okstate.edu (BOONE BARRY EDWARD)
Subject: Re: Pascal Compiler
Organization: Oklahoma State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 13:36:49 GMT

From article <1OCT199214554242@vx.cis.umn.edu>, by daven@vx.cis.umn.edu (David Nieters):
> Does anyone have any exposure to the Pascal compiler TI had that used the
> P-card?  Was it any good?  I've been kicking around the idea of writing a
> Pascal compiler for my TI.  Any thoughts, comments?  Am I wasting my time?
> 
> David Nieters
> University of Minnesota
> daven@vx.acs.umn.ed

There is already one in existance called Turbo Pasc' 99... the people who
wrote it did a very good job, as it is an integrated editor and compiler
(which if you hit a compile error will put you back in the editor with the
cursor on the error!)  The compiler was developed in Germany, and is carried
in this country by Larry Conners.

Barry Boone
Oklahoma State University - Electrical Engineering
boone@a.cs.okstate.edu
From: maiaux@scxel3.ec.bull.fr
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
Subject: transferts de donnees entre 2 TI85
Keywords: TI85
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:54:46 GMT
Reply-To: maiaux@sm14.ec.bull.fr
Organization: Bull SA Echirolles / France

Je cherche des infos sur les transferts de donnees entre 2 calculettes TI85
(voltage, vitesse, protocole ...)
Quelqu'un peut-il m'aider ?
From: si@acpub.duke.edu (SIDIK ISANI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
Subject: Re: supercart
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:15:56 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Rather than destroying an Editor Assembler cartridge, I modified a Widget
so the cartridge in slot 1 is always selected, and that 2 and 3 can still
be turned off with the switch.  This modification is just one wire.  My 8K
RAM lives in a dead Parsec cartridge :(  The only thing to be careful of
with this arrangement is that you don't put another cartridge with GROM in
slot 2 or three without first unplugging the E/A cartridge from slot 1.  

Do you have the article on how to add battery backup?  That sounds
interesting.

-Sidik

si@acpub.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
From: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: Pascal Compiler
Reply-To: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:25:12 GMT

In article <1OCT199214554242@vx.cis.umn.edu>, daven@vx.cis.umn.edu (David Nieters) writes:
I've been kicking around the idea of writing a
>Pascal compiler for my TI.  Any thoughts, comments?  Am I wasting my time?
>
>David Nieters
>University of Minnesota
>daven@vx.acs.umn.edu

Let's see...  there is Tourbo Pasc'99 from Germany, and also a GRAM-based
(for those who have a GRAM Cracker) re-write of the p-code TI issue from
Austria which )last I heard) was scheduled to be marketed by LGMA (the ones
who gave us fortran).

There is a group of devoted p-code/UCSD pascal users, most notably Jerry Coffey,
president of the Washington, DC area UG (MANNERS).  Most likely he could
be reached on GEnie (or is it one of the other Compu$pend networks he is on?),
they have achieved as much expertise on the p-code as most other TI programmers
have on the Ed/Asm.

Have fun!
(Will this be a vapotware like most of the other projects you have announced
here?  :-)    Sorry, David, couldn't resist...  I hope you are not upset!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
From: olsone@aix.rpi.edu (Erik G. Olson)
Subject: Re: supercart
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:48:49 GMT

|Parts: Hitachi COS HM6264P-15 ($34.95)|
|      or LP-15 version ($39.95),if you|
|      want battery backup later on.   |

Since that Super-Cart article was dated 1986, the pricing
is no cause for alarm-- these RAMs shouldn't be more than a
few dollars. I paid $4.95 for the exact part named here, in 1987.
I don't know if the part is still as mass-produced as it was then,
but I would guess they've gotten cheaper. 

For mail order, I would suggest Jameco (415)-592-8097 (orders)
(try 415-592-8121 to get a catalog.)

-- 
Erik G. Olson          =+ A kitten pawing a ball of wool, a cub wrestling with
olsone@rpi.edu         =+ another, experiment with gestures which they do not
MapInfo employee       =+ yet command. --Jacob Bronowski, _The Identity of Man_
From: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
Subject: New Asgard products
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:37:12 GMT
Reply-To: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Virginia

I have seen a new catalog featuring Asgard 128K card and Extended BASIC III.

Anybody has any experience with them?

The 128K card is both RAM disk, 32K card, and 128K CPU RAM (apparently bank-
switched?) IF (and that's a BIG  "IF") you've got the software to take 
advantage of it.  It seems to me to resemble the Foundation 128K card in that
respect (however very little software was written for the extra 96K portion of
the Foundation card, most notably TIBBS and MASS COPY...  anything else?)

Extended BASIC III seems to contain 16K RAM, additional commands and run
50% faster (all claimed in the catalog).  It might be a major improvement,
although previous releases of "super extended BASICs", XXB's, etc.,
did not bring much new to the TI software arena, simply because of
insufficient sales or bugs (MYARC XBII/IV).

I am considering buying one or two of the above IF I can generate enough cash
from some of my extra/backup stuff.  I will therefore try to sell the following
at what I consider LOW prices-

TI-99/4A main console unit with power supply (transformer) cable, no RF 
modulator and no manual-  $10

TI-99/4A complete (main console, power supply (transformer) cable, PLUS RF
modulator, user's manual, PLUS 2 cartridges-  $17

TI Peripheral expansion box with disk drive, disk controller card, memory
expansion card, flex-cable interface card (to hook up to the main console),
free disk with advanced disk managers and utilities (DM-1000, DM-99 -- a
resident disk manager, and DISKU sector/file utilities, all fairware);
all ready to hook up and run-  $85

(As an option, it is possible to replace the TI drive by a double sided drive
with twice the storage, or a pair of half-height double-sided
drives in the expansion box).

If interested, please e-mail to me at COHEN@GOMEZ.PHYS.VIRGINIA.EDU or
call (804) 293-8973.

As always, offers for trades are welcome (I am looking for cartridges that I
do not have, books, 3rd party hardware, or let-me-know-what-you-have's!).
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ti:655 comp.sys.misc:729
From: btcx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti,comp.sys.misc
Subject: ancient ti portable pc query
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:27:30 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

please send any responses to this to carcich@cuspif.tn.cornell.edu

i am looking for information on a ti portable pc, model 2238675-0001,
specifically what kind of keyboard it needs.  should it take a standard
pc keyboard (it already fried one, so if it should, it's prob shot)?
it has a 9" integral monitor, 2 vertical 5-1/4" floppies, a 5 pin DIN
and a DB25 in the back (keyboard and printer?).

-brian carcich
cornell university, galileo project
carcich@cuspif.tn.cornell.edu
cuspif::carcich (NSI/DECnet)
btcx@crnlvax5.bitnet
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
From: mah@cs.UAlberta.CA (Dean S. Mah)
Subject: Andrew Webster
Keywords: BBS
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:26:08 GMT

Andrew please send me the number to the new BBS through email if you can.

--
Dean S. Mah  (email: mah@cs.ualberta.ca) | Q: What do you do with an elephant
Department of Computer Science           |    with 3 balls?
University of Alberta                    |  
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada                | A: Walk him and pitch to the rhino.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
From: otto@vaxb.acs.unt.edu (M. Otto, "Virtual Prisoner of the VAX")
Subject: TI Professional Computer FTP site?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:52:46 GMT

My department recently inherited a number of TI professional computers.  Is
there an ftp site out there with TI PC software?

AdTHANKSvance,

         __ ____ __      otto@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
 /|/|   / / / / / /  A virtual prisoner of the VAX     // I'm sorry; my karma
/   |. /_/ / / /_/  at The University of North Texas \X/  ran over your dogma
                             Denton, USA
From: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ti
Subject: supercart
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:03:54 GMT
Reply-To: cohen@GOMEZ.phys.virginia.edu
Organization: Dept. of Physics, University of Virginia

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