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From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Being Alone?
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:39:04 GMT
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In article <1992Nov16.174809.9605@nuchat.sccsi.com> kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown) writes:
>Well, I haven't posted in a while (you can tell, right?  :-).  There's good
>reason for that:  my plan worked.  I now have a girlfriend, and am *quite*
>happy.  This looks to be a long-term thing, because we get along
>*incredibly* well.
>
>You gotta love it when you hit a home run the first time at bat.  :-)

Pah! *love* it?! Kevin, you're a complete and utter bastard and I hate you 
for ever and ever, so there!

;-)

PS. It was a good post though. :-)

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From: rickk@public.BTR.COM (Rick)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: I'll Call You
Summary: It Goes Both Ways
Date: 22 Nov 92 05:48:44 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

Women aren't reliable on calling either.  In the past three weeks I gave my
number to two different women.  One didn't commit either way -- which fit
the interaction, which was a "well maybe..."

With the other, however, I said that I'd like to see her again, and that
I wondered if she would like to either give me her number or take mine.
She said: "I'd like to have your number. 
I said, "I'd really like you to call" and
she said "I definitely will" and repeated that a second time.

Neither has called.

(my $.02, for whatever it's worth) ....



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Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:23:19 GMT

In article <lgl06rINNqsi@news.bbn.com> dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.194033.20468@informix.com> bradl@neptune.informix.com (Brad Levy) writes:
>>
>>Similarly, alt.romance is a place where most people
>>have agreed to be safe for open expression (kind of like a some church
>>groups). 
>
>In that case, cross-posting to soc.singles is probably a *BIG* mistake.
>We're not very safe.

Soc.singles is very safe.  (Not as safe as, say, alt.peeves, but
still...)  It's the clueless who crosspost to it who are unsafe.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
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From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:55:41 GMT
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In article <31517@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>In <13NOV92.21925419.0026@lafibm.lafayette.edu> CE42@lafibm.lafayette.edu (CE42000) writes:
>
>I'd like to ask why people share *hugs* and *kisses* on the net.  What
>is the value of them?  Would you also hug and kiss a stranger in real
>life?
>
>Juha Taina  taina@cs.helsinki.fi  Phone: +358-0-708-4247

Juha, it's because most of the folks on the net are *Americans*. This
explains an awful lot of the strangenesses, not just the profusion of hugs &
kisses.

Weird lot, but basically a decent enough bunch, IMHO. ;-)

Now the Finns, they're all really, like, cooool, man.... ;-) Positively Artic, 
in fact. (Sorry, I had to do it!)

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: amymw@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Amy Wisotsky)
Subject: Re: First date on Friday the 13th
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:02:26 GMT

aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.) writes:

>jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
>>spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
>>> mcohen@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>>> >Ok, I had a first date on Friday the 13th.  Is this a good thing?
>>> How are we supposed to know?  You tell *us* whether it was a good thing!
>>oh wow! my SO & i had our first 'real' date on Friday the 13th as well.
>>didn't even think about what that was supposed to mean. was too happy
>>with (barely) getting tickets to see Dracula. (good movie. go see. twice.)

>I had a job interview on Friday the 13th...  I _THINK_ it went well; I
>should find out this week... ;)  Not very romantic in & of itself, but
>if I get the job my girlfriend will be happy ('cause it means I will
>definitely be staying in the area after grad school... *grin*)...

>	-=Alan

Well, he found out and....YAY!!!!!!!!  *jump for joy*  I get to keep
him nearby!  *silly grin*

								-Amy-
								 :)
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Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
From: petitc@nuge111.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Reply-To: petitc@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:28:37 GMT

In article <cbnqh9b@lynx.unm.edu>, blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
|> In article <h4y1#k=@rpi.edu> petitc@rpi.edu writes:
|> >|> Actually we in soc.singles are quite safe.
|> >|> We just simply expect people to stand up for themselves instead of being
|> >|> propped up by everybody else in the group.
|> >    Ok, mister, you asked for it...
|> (rant deleted)
|> 
|> Can YOU tell the difference between 'independence' and 'crutch'?

  Yes, there is a difference.  However, to some of us, when we get dumped by
someone we care for, it HURTS.  Apparently, this is not true for you---since
this is for romantics (people who care deeply for others), it really hurts to
get dumped---moreso than for non-romantics.

|> >you're saying that the way to live is "Screw everyone else---get what you want
|> >out of life regardless of how it affects others."
|> >   Sorry if I seem a bit pissed, but I really despise people who live under the
|> >delusion that people NEVER need help from other people.
|> 
|> Delusion? Posting from alt.romance.what.is.real.life?
|> And you're accusing me of living under a delusion?
|> Let me give you a word to look up: Reality.

  As for Reality, if it's what I see on TV, I can see why we have such problems.
What about dreams, mister?  Maybe we can't get every dream to come to life, but
does that mean we should all just shut up and accept 'the way it is?'  Without
dreams to strive for, we'd still be living in caves.

|> It means that if I have a boo-boo I don't go running for a support group for
|> a 'group-hug!' It means that I am a big boy now, and I can and do take care
|> of myself. Of course it doesn't mean I don't like a warm body to snuggle up
|> to, or a good friend to talk with- who doesn't?

  No, but you ARE saying that other people mean very little to you, since you
can't be hurt by them.  Psychological invunerability is only possible if 
nobody means anything to you, which seems to be the case here, if you insist
that you can't get hurt.

|> Calling myself 'independent' means that I stand up for my own opinions. My
|> life isn't going to be over if the other 99,999 people reading this message
|> don't agree with my point of view. It means that if I don't get >one single
|> net hug< my life will not fall apart. I will go on.
|> 
|> Will you?

  Well, as I said before, there are SOME TIMES when we all need hugs.  And,
apparently, your dates/SO mean nothing to you, so you can't be hurt by them.

-- 
 *HUGS*, a @>---'--,----, and a :&) to whoever needs them.
"Whoever said that life was fair never read the rules, and found out that
there were none."
"Mysteries are for detectives; confusion is what the rest of us get."
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: "Just Happens"
From: s206001@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 24 Nov 92 14:24:47 GMT

In article <Uf3hIni00iV304k1oS@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Paul S. Hrynko" <ph2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> An Example:  My SO and I have also been going out for 1.5 years.  We
> used to be academic rivals, hating everything the other said and did. 
> But there were times where we would happen to be in the same place at
> the same time.  Eventually, our hating spawned an interest in what the
> other person was doing.  We came to the conclusion that we had never
> seen each other socially.  She invited me to a dance.  We became distant
> again a few weeks later. Then Good Friends. A year and a half later, I
> dumped my current girlfriend, because I was in love with her.  She came
> up to me out of the blue and told me she loved me.  BAM!  Our paths had
> crossed.  I didn't do any work at all, neither did she.  We had somehow
> formed a relationship.  And today, a year later,  over 338 miles apart,
> we are in love.  When we separated at the end of this summer to go back
> to college, we wanted to see how we would act apart, to see how OUR
> relationship would be.  Now, I don't even consider leaving our
> relationship, and she the same.  We do communicate more than any other
> couple I know, and we are in love more than any other couple I know. 
> But our communication is not "making" the relationship, it is nourishing
> the relationship, and just happened.
> 
> Comments? Questions?
> 
> 
> 
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> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> B efore your eyes observe the union of the sky with the water,
> E bbing and augmenting tides which know no bounds.
> A ll observe the eternal crashing of moody waves on the sand,
> C alling you to become part of a worldly being greater than yourself, 
> H aving the ability to attain true love, peace, and contentment.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes Paul I have one "Your relationships is one of the rare ones in this life". 
I cannot help but be envious of that fact because a lot of us know that it
doesn't "JUST HAPPEN" for everyone and many people are alone for a long time
before they are lucky enough to find that special person by whichever means. 
Yes we'd all like to believe in 'Cupid' and the 'magic' of it all, and I'm
not saying there isn't some out there, but it doesn't hurt to help it along :). 
Irene
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: M.J.Jennings@amtp.cam.ac.uk (Michael Jennings)
Subject: Liza's getting married in three hours time
Keywords: I'm depressed
Organization: University of Cambridge, DAMTP
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:06:22 GMT

	I posted the full story of me and Liza a few weeks ago.
Suffice to say that the only girl I've ever had strong feelings
for (and sometimes I think the only girl I ever will have strong
feelings for) is getting married in about three hours time. I am
on the other side of the world to her and am feeling pretty 
unhappy about the fact that I am so totally not part of her life.
	Hugs anybody?

	Michael

--
Michael Jennings
Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics
The University of Cambridge. 		mjj12@damtp.cambridge.ac.uk

Disclaimer: the opinions presented here are mine alone,
but they should be yours too because they're right.

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From: petitc@nuge104.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
Subject: Re: net.hugs? (apology)
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:11:33 GMT
Reply-To: petitc@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.


  Ok.  I am very sorry that I am an annoying little pain in the ass with no
social life and very few friends.  Also, I am sorry that I accused people and
flamed without reason.  Yes, I get no caring from people, so I have to take
whatever I get.

  I HAVE NO ****ING LIFE!! OK!! YOU HAPPY?!?

  You are much better than I---I am a wuss who should be shot, if murder were
legal.
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From: diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
Subject: Re: Being Alone?
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:03:25 GMT
Followup-To: alt.romance
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <oneil.721965040@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
>
>Indeed.  I figured I wouldn't date for quite some time and that lasted
>about two weeks.  It's kind of amazing.  When I'm looking, they're running
>and hiding.  But if I'm not looking, they're knocking my door down.  :-)
>Well, not quite, but I find that things happen when you least expect them
>to happen. 

This is the understatement of the week.  Last year during an eight-week  period
starting sometime in October and ending about two weeks before Christmas,
EVERYONE wanted to go out with me (well, okay, actually a fairly small 
subset of everyone- felt like everyone, though) right while I was trying
to figure out whether or not to go to graduate school, and I nearly 
experienced a total breakdown.  It's nice to be popular, but there's such
a thing as an embarassment of riches.  (If I spelled that wrong, no flames
please- there's no dictionary handy).

Of course, such situations never last.  Sniffle.  Sob.

				--Diamond

diamond@acpub.duke.edu |   The soul may choose its own society and shut
Elizabeth S. Abrams    |   the door, but the body gets thrown into bed
		       |   with the damnedest people.  --Peter Beagle
From: lani@askinc.ASK.COM (Lani Barton)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Trying Too Hard
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:28:02 GMT
Reply-To: lani@askinc.ask.COM (Lani Barton)
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.

in reply to :
____________________________________________________________________
  It's a lot easier for women to say that you shouldn't try too hard---when
women go out, it's a lot easier for them to get attention than it is for a
guy.  Observe:  If a woman sits  quietly in a corner, she can get dates, but if
a guy does the same thing, no dates (unless he gets fortunate enough to be
approached by an assertive woman).
____________________________________________________________________________


please realize that in these modern times, women are understandably
cautious and maybe a bit nervous of going out with somebody they don't
know.  Date rape, etc is a very sad fact of life and it does make it
harder for the many men out there that are decent fellows.  I myself would
probably not go up to a stranger and make conversation with the intention
of asking him out, and I would be hesitant if a stranger asked me out.

Also, in my experience, men are very unsused to having a woman ask them
out and are generally hesitant about accepting a casual invitation.  I
do realize that there are exceptions, but we women are more passive out
of wisdom (of course, I consider myself an exception!!! ;>  don't we all?)
From: dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: First date on Friday the 13th
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:25:58 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.199.202.41

In article <16NOV92.00004605@vax.clarku.edu> mcohen@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>Ok, I had a first date on Friday the 13th.  Is this a good thing?

My Dad *proposed* to my Mum on the 13th! Look at me! Do *you* think it was
a good thing!

Just say no to the 13th, man... ;-)

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Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.personals
From: Andrew S Boggs <aboggs@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Interested?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:25:58 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

"She walks in beauty like the night
   Of cloudless climes and starry skies;
 And all that's best of dark and bright
   Meets in her aspect and her eyes;
 Thus mellow'd to that tender light
   Which heaven to gaudy day denies."
                     -Lord Byron
     If this describes you, or even if it doesnt and you are a SWF, then please
respond. Ill attempt to reply to all mail.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Inappropriate posting - was: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Followup-To: talk.abortion
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:16:29 GMT

I already sent Doug mail regarding a similar
post he put in alt.romance.chat a couple of
days ago - and I've posted this article to
talk.abortion, where it belongs - with a
query to them as to how to KEEP him over there.

As I said in a.r.c - I'm sure there are as many
veiws on the abortion topic here as there are in
t.a, and this is NOT a forum for the debate.  For
the sake of the sanity of all of the folks who
deliberately do NOT read t.a, if you MUST discuss
Doug's post - do so in t.a, please?  Let's leave
a.r for romance only?

Thank you for your time - I'll get off my soapbox
now.

Diana
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: A Question
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:07:58 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

petitc@nuge103.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit) writes:


>  I have a simple question:

>  If you _knew_ you had to break up with your SO, no way out, would you want
>to have an exact date, or not?  And what would you do before the imminent
>breakup?                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
^^^^^^^^

Get the women and children into the lifeboats, use the Marconi to
signal for help---oops. No.  Wait.  That's for a sinking ship,
isn't it?

Just kidding.

Seriously:  I would say that the direct and honest approach would
be best, though NO MATTER WHAT YOU DO, it's probably gonna be
messy---a specific and definite date would help prevent the soured
relationship from dragging on, slowly decaying like a dead trout
on the beach of a poisoned lake, getting more and more intolerable
with each day.  Regarding preparations for the imminent breakup:
Again, honesty and directness.  State your case in plain language
and tell your S.O. exactly WHY you are ending the relationship,
and by when; if you are truly serious about calling a halt to
the whole thing, then tell her flat-out that because of such-
and-so reasons, you are throwing the key into the waterbucket and
calling it quits.

If you have to do this, then I wish you good luck....

T.R. Stone
>-- 
>Trust:  A very precious social commodity, due both to high value and terrible
>scarcity.
>MATWDTM:  Mothers Against Teenagers Who Drink Too Much (failed name for MADD)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans)
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Organization: and just what are you on, boy?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:01:27 GMT

In article <lgnjnfINNldj@news.bbn.com> dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>In article <MARTINC.92Nov18222436@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>>
>>I would like to know more about these zerbit's though.
>
>A zerbit is when one takes a baby, pulls its undershirt up to bare its
>chubby little stomach, puts one lips onto bare stomach, and says "BLLLBPTH!"
>The baby then squeals with joy, and rips a handful or two of hair out to
>show its appreciation.
>
>I suppose you could do it to older people to, but they probably won't squeal
>and as far as I'm concerned that's the whole point.
>


No, no.  That's a "tummy nuzzle".  And yes, older people do in fact
squeal.  Which is indeed the whole point.  Well, ok, part of the 
point.

How do I know it's a "tummy nuzzle"?  It's even better applied to
tigers...  But riskier...  Just ask Calvin...


Piglet, in search of a good licence plate....
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: will@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu (Beldin Feldegast)
Subject: Re: Becoming attracted to friends
Organization: Mallorea
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:52:20 GMT

>>   Sounds like you a getting ready for the big fall there. I'd be
>>   ready for some hard times ahead. Cause when she's ready to fall
>>   for somebody else, you can expect to feel like yesterday's
>>   newspaper.
>> 
>>   SC (just my opinion)
>> 
>Agreed!  As I posted previosly here, this combination of mixing frienship
>and love is like drink driving.  It's something you learn sooner or later...
>but it's a damn painfull way to learn from experience.  *sigh*
>				- Shem


So, what is there for him to do? Are you saying this is the case for everyone
not to mix friendships with love? Do you just develop a relationship from
being an acquaintance and then ask somone out? This doesn't seem quite
right.

Beldin



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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Saying never gain was Re:LDR contest
From: s206001@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:16:48 GMT

In article <steve.2.722161585@rmit.edu.au>, steve@rmit.edu.au (Steve Iatropoulos
> Ok beat this:
> 	1 yr LDR from Melbourne to Denny, Scotland
> Never ever ever again....
> 
> Steve
> steve@rmit.edu.au
You know that you should never say never Steve atleast where the heart is
concerned..Admittedly LDR's take a lot out of us all but I don't think anyone
of us would say *never*.
Irene
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: fsquared@eff.org (Fawn Fitter)
Subject: Re: I'll Call You
Originator: fsquared@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:48:26 GMT


My $.02:

This past summer, I had a first date with a guy who seemed interested in me,
who told me repeatedly during the course of the date that he really really
wanted to see me again, who called the next day and left a message on my 
machine to tell me what a great time he'd had and how much he wanted to see
me again, who called again that same day to ask me out for Sunday night.

He stood me up.

I called him on Monday to find out what had happened -- giving him the 
benefit of the doubt, you know, maybe there had been some sort of emergency
or something -- and he hemmed and hawed and told me not to call him again.
That I was a great woman but he just didn't feel comfortable continuing to
see me.

Go figure!


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