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From: grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu (Mike Percy)
Subject: Re: GRE Beta and WfW 2.0?
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:07:08 GMT

ghenniga@NMSU.Edu writes:


>	With all the action in the group I lost track of the thread
>discussing problems with Word for Windows 2.0 and the GRE/Win 3.1 beta? Did
>anyone solve the problem of WfW 2.0 and it's only giving you one choice for
>a font?
 
It's not just on the font menu, I've had the same problem on every
drop-down list in Word that I've used: fonts, drives (in file open),
document types (in file save as and file open).  I have noticed that by
judicious use of clicking the drop-down arrow and the arrow keys, I
could get the selection list to scroll (after a fashion).  At least I
was able to get my document to save in Text only format for subsequent
email...

Mike Percy             | grimlok@hubcap.clemson.edu  | I don't know about
Sr. Systems Analyst    | mspercy@clemson.clemson.edu | your brain, but mine
Info. Sys. Development | mspercy@clemson.BITNET      | is really...bossy.
Clemson University     | (803) 656-3780              | (Laurie Anderson)
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Screensaver
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:32:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.093147.811@calmasd.prime.com> kjb@calmasd.prime.com (Ken Brucker) writes:
>> Deskpic was an interesting screensaver for OS/2 1.3 (at ftp-os2.nmsu.edu).
>> It is not completely compatible with OS/2 (some report lock-ups; I did not
>> get these). It is possible that deskpic would work if set as a simple
>> screensaver--I did not test.
>There are problems with some of the Deskpic screen savers, but most of them
>work just fine under OS/2 2.0.  I've seen lockups and hard crashes with a few
>of the screen savers.  Give 'em a try and if you find one that crashes your
>system, just disable that one.

Fortunately shareware/freeware authors seem to be rushing to fill the
gap.  For example, an OS/2 2.0 screen saver called Window Works should
be making its way to ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in the coming days.

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of Chicago, 60637       | Family Values Means a Job
From: jclei@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Lei)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Any com program w/ kermit protocol and scroll back function?
Date: 2 Oct 92 05:35:48 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I have been using Softerm since installing OS/2 without major problems.  
However, this program lacks a scroll-back feature as provided by other com
programs.  I know TE2 has this function but it does not provide kermit
transfer protocol (I cannot use other protocols like x,y,z-modem).  So my
question is if there is any program with these two features.  Any pointer
would be appreciated.

Jason



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From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Subject: Re: simple q: bigger windows? scrollable windows?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:36:38 GMT

hpw@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry P Warren) writes:

>  Is there any way to resize os/2 command line sessions to anything
>larger than 80x25? Is there any way to make sessions that are
>"buffered" or "scrollable"? It seems so simple . . . 

Try "mode co80,100"
______________________________________________________________________________
     Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
 System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
From: Brenda_Haynes@mindlink.bc.ca (Brenda Haynes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:34:49 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Michael Golan writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <mg.717572342@elan>
> Posted: 27 Sep 92 05:39:02 GMT
>
> Org.  : Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science
>
> [discussion of OS/2 being too powerful erased]
>
> I'll second that. I almost like the WPS, which must mean that the average
> user
> won't ... There are far too many options, and it is far too easy to crash
> the system with them.
>
> Example: open drives, and move config.sys to the desktop ... on the next
> boot,
> you die. I actually did it, by mistake, so I can edit the file....
>
> I still don't understand how people are suppose to know which, of all these
> objects, are real files vs. real icons vs. logical icon refering to programs,
> etc. Put another way: Object in OS/2 seems to be like C++'s object ... given
> an object, you can't tell what kind of object it is (the only way I find out
> for sure is by opening 'setup' and figuring out the object kind based on the
> set of pages I get. Ha!)
>
> Is IBM doing ANYTHING in this respect? Specifically:
> 1. have "expert" and "normal" modes for the WPS. Dont allow/hide most stuff
>    under normal operation (e.g. physical file movements for certain files,
>    which can be based on extended attrib). Dont allow destroying/moving
>    all the basic objects that came with the system... Dont allow funny
>    options to be set..
> 2. have a "what kind" of object in the menus.
>
> I'm not sure OS/2 will fail for that reason, though. I don't thing NT will
> be simpler ... and not everyone are going to stay with DOS or a MAC, would
> they?
>
>
>  Michael Golan
>  mg@princeton.edu
>
> ps. The funny thing is, I too, like most hackers, I suspect, dont do anything
> with the cute WPS, except launch PM applications, and have a nice clock ...
> If any of you have gone from copy/move/del to the WPS, tell us! tell us why,
> and if it's not too slow.

I'm in complete agreement with the opinion that OS/2 has too many neat toys
that the average user doesn't know how to use and that's why it may prove to be
unpopular with the general population.

I use the WPS becuz I find it fun!  It takes away the boredom of plain text
altho, at present in OS/2 it is slower.  If I'm in a hurry, the copy/move/del
is rather nice.   When I get frustrated, I remind myself that OS/2 is still
"new" and life is bound to get better. :) :) :)
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From: frank@algol.bsa.de (Frank Huemme)
Subject: sytos+ for wangtek 5150pk ?
Organization: BSA
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 10:35:59 GMT

Hello,
is the wangtek 5150pk (not SCSI)supported by the syplus soft for os/2 ?
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From: lum@dds4.uucp (Michael Lum)
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Organization: Digital Dispatch Systems, Richmond BC
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 20:23:03 GMT

I use the MKS Kornshell in OS/2 2.0 so to remove a 'tree' I would
    'rm -rf <dirname>'
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Digital Dispatch Systems, Richmond BC              |   Fax: (604) 270 9160 |
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From: jpeltoni@niksula.hut.fi (Jussi M Peltoniemi)
Subject: Re: WfW 2.0 & Win-OS2 ATM a-dieresis problem
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:05:44


   I have a problem with Microsoft Word for Windows running under
   Win-OS2 and the Adobe Type Manager that is bundled with Win-OS2.

   The umlaut-a (an a with two dots over it, also called a-dieresis) is
   wider than the space it takes in the Times Roman ATM font. Thus,
   whenever I type the a" letter, the next letter comes partially on top
   of it.

   Can anybody suggest anything? DEBUG TMSRMN.FON or something?

The ATM-fonts are bad in OS/2 2.0 GA.
Install ATM-fonts again from ATM-package you have been sold
separately.


   Equipment: OS/2 2.0 GA
	      Word for Windows 2.0 (not 2.0a)
	      No-name 386-25 with 8M RAM, WD SVGA, 120M HD
	      Canon LBP-8II with 1.5M RAM

   --
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From: slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos)
Subject: Re: Shredder vs. Trash (was: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 03:15:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.063551.20153@muddcs.claremont.edu> jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) writes:
>
>What I did was drag a new folder off the templates and drop the shredder
>into it.  Then I used a nifty recycle icon (the three arrows making a
>triangle) you see everywhere nowadays as the folder's icon and renamed
>it "Recycle".  When I want to delete anything, I just drag it onto the
>recycle icon and the file gets moved into the folder just like the Mac
>trashcan.

That is a great idea. I am going to go do that right now. Quite
NeXTStep-ish.

TTYL - Steve

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From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:10:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.032056@IASTATE.EDU> amah@IASTATE.EDU () writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.232036.21836@muddcs.claremont.edu>,
>tlilley@jarthur.claremont.edu (Thomas (Ted) Lilley) writes:
>> In article <gyan.717617847@unixg.ubc.ca> gyan@unixg.ubc.ca (Gyan P. Sinha)
>writes:
>> >In <mg.717572342@elan> mg@elan (Michael Golan) writes:
>> >
>
>        (Stuff Deleted)
>
>
>> >If you move your config.sys to the desktop, you have in effect moved it
>> >out of your root directory of the boot drive and into a subdirectory,i.e
>> >OS2! 2.0 Desktop. If OS/2 can't find the config.sys file, why shouldn't
>> >it crash on bootup? You may as well have deleted config.sys, for all it's
>> >concerned.
>> >
>> >Maybe I'm missing something here. If so, can someone shed some light on
>> >this?
>> 
>> Basically, you've got it right, but the point he's trying to make is that
>> it's too easy to do this under OS/2, if you don't understand the system.
>> Heck, though, even dos is the same if you don't know what you're doing.  A
>> friend of mine deleted command.com off his computer because "it was taking
>> up space on the hard drive".
>> 
>> Ted
>
>I agree 100%. Everyday a few of the computers in our lab hang up because of this
>problem. Some students save  their files in root directories and later delete
>them by using " del *.*".
>
>Although we have notices in lab asking them not to do this, it keeps happening
>at least on a couple of computers each day.
>
That's right. It happens in DOS too. You haven't had a student in your
lab do a "format c:" yet then explains it by saying "I was formatting
a bunch of disk with format b: but typed c: by mistake and didn't
realize it till it took so long to format". Or those who copies
everything from there disk to root "copy b:*.*" including the system
files like autoexec, config.sys, command.com....etc. Oh I got tons of
these stories for our DOS based lab.

Thomas.
From: figueroa@SPUNKY.CS.NYU.EDU (Samuel A. Figueroa)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: X-Windows available under OS/2?? Need lead!
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:53:32 GMT
Organization: New York University

In a previous article, sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
>In article <60628@mimsy.umd.edu> pr@umiacs.umd.edu (Jesus Rodriguez) writes:
>>|> I'm trying to find an X-Windows emulator that I can run under OS/2 version 1.
>>|> 3 (willing to upgrade to 2.0 if necessary).  
>>
>>I am also looking for such a product.  What I would like to do with it is to 
>>be able to use my X-Windows products off of the SUN SPARCstation IPC that I 
>>use at work.  I want to do this via modem from my home PS/2 running OS/2 2.0.
>
>Sure -- no problem (other than performance -- X over a serial
>connection, even a V.32bis one, isn't too speedy).  The base IBM
>TCP/IP 1.2.1 package plus X Windows add-on does nicely.

At Unix Expo, someone from NCD told me they have a product which converts PCs
into X terminals.  No networking software is required, just a modem.  In addi-
tion, they have a special driver for the host (it definitely works on Suns)
which compresses/decompresses the information sent over the modem to improve
performance.  Unfortunately, they only have versions for DOS and Windows, but
I will try to find out more information about it, including how much it costs
and if they have plans to produce an OS/2 version.
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From: horan@cse.unl.edu (Mark Horan)
Subject: Te2 dials and connects, but then hangs?
Keywords: te2
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:03:36 GMT

	I am having problems with Te2, my modem is set for com3, irq5 and
it works great under telix and pmcomm but I like Te2 and it hangs right
after it CONNECTS 57600.  I'm currently using telix, but since I don't 
have a 16550 uart I think I'm losing some throughput under the DOS box.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.   
			Thanks,  Mark

--

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horan@cse.unl.edu
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From: stephen@unity.ncsu.edu (Stephen Jackson)
Subject: Soundblaster Pro-Organ running under OS/2
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:35:40 GMT


Help!  I can't get the Pro FM Organ software that came with my Soundblaster Pro to work in OS2.  No matter
if I open a full-screen DOS session or anything, something messes up.  It loads just fine, the screen comes up and all, but if I press any key (function key, tab, letter, it doesn't matter) the program exits 
back to the prompt or to the WPS.  What can I do to remedy this?  It doesn't allow use of a mouse to select options, only function keys, and I can't do this in OS/2.  Does anyone have a solution? Thanks in advance.

Stephen
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From: panos@db.toronto.edu (Panos Economopoulos)
Subject: Re: ATM for OS/2  (output on 9-pin printers)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:26:46 GMT

djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Don Smith) writes:

>You can display your ATM fonts on the screen and print them out. I
>have printed ATM fonts out on an Epson 9pin and a HP LJ2... so I
>know it can be done.

If that's the case, then what's the problem with trying to print out
an OS/2 Help page? I have a Panasonic 9-pin printer that has both
an Epson and an IBM Proprinter II mode. The Proprinter driver produces,
definitely, better output. However, when printing OS/2 Help pages,
the font emulation is AWFULL, especially when compared with similar output
from a Windows application (running under Win-OS/2 with ATM for Windows
installed) on the same printer.

I have been unable, so far, to produce NLQ emulation of, say, Helvetica
or TimesRoman fonts from within an OS/2 application.

Is this a problem with the driver?  It would seem unlikely since the
same driver accepts input from both the OS/2 ATM (-> crummy output)
and the Windows ATM (-> very good output). Also, wouldn't both versions
of the ATM program (OS/2 vs. Windows) use the same underlying engine?
So, where's the problem? At the interface between the ATM and the drivers?
Am I missing something?

Also, do the new Epson/Proprinter drivers (which I haven't tried, yet)
produce any better output?

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From: thite@micrografx.com
Subject: Re: Microsoft C/C++ 7.0 runs under OS/2?
Organization: Micrografx, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 15:33:06 GMT

For everyones interest, MS C/C++ 7.0 runs in OS/2.  MS has placed
some new executables on their BBS which are native OS/2 apps for
the compilers, linkers and PWB.

This 'patch', as they call it, produces DOS and Windows apps only,
thus you might think of it as a cross-compiler.

I am sending the patches to someone who has ftp access so they
will be available soon on an ftp site near you...

Tom Hite
thite@micrografx.com
From: kslater@sps.pgh.pa.us (Kevin J. Slater)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Will ACAD rel. 10 run in a DOS session
Date: 4 Oct 92 11:42:27 GMT
Organization: SPS ACAD BBS, (412) 487-3637

gjm@cray.com (Gordon Miller) writes:

> In article <1992Sep28.183336.10449@news.iastate.edu> jbhuber@iastate.edu (Jos
> >I'm sure this has been asked before, but I didn't see it in the FAQ.
> >
> >Does ACAD rel. 10 run in an OS/2 2.0 DOS session? When I try to run ACAD rel
> >10, the drawing loads and is displayed, but then the system crashes and
> >displays an internal processing error message (requires reboot - I can post
> >the message and machine specs. if necessary).
> >
> >Is there a fix for this, or is it just a matter of getting the 'DOS setting'
> >properly adjusted?
> >
> >Thanks.
> >
> >-- 
> >Joe Huber 
> >(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo:
> >Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
> >Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
> 
> 
> Yes, there is a  OS/2 kernel fix (OS2KRN) which may resolve this problem. 
> Here is the description of the problem that it addresses.
> 
> APAR PJ04081 / PTR B735516
> PROBLEM SUMMARY: IPE occurs at location 150:4912 which is a "rep stosd"
>                  inside the BlastSFT. (AUTOCAD problem)
> 
> 
> The fix is in OS2KRN.ZIP available on software.watson.ibm.com (129.34.139.5) 
> directory "/pub/os2/os2fixes" and may be on ftp-os2.nmu.edu as well.
> 
> Cheers,
>   Gordon Miller

And the fix works as advertised. I run AcadR10 in a DOS window.

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From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS/2 beta bug reporting
Keywords: OS/2 Beta 32-bit GRE Win-OS/2 3.1
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:28:44 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

kaz@iastate.edu (Jimmy Buffet) writes:

>Can we report OS/2 beta bugs via internet?  If so, what is the procedure
>and address?   Thanks!

You can send reports to CIS at 76711.610@compuserve.com or
to 71075.2430@compuserve.com and it appears that they can also e-mail
replies back. But, given the traffic, it may take a while, so no
breath-holding.

Tom
 
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From: t36253b@saha.hut.fi (Aali-Petri Alikoski)
Subject: PS and/or HP PCL previewer ?
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:08:19 GMT


Is there somewhere in the net a PS and / or HP PCL previewer (i.e. a
program that displays on screen a file that contains PS or HPPCL code)
for OS/2 ?

How about windows 3.1 versions ?

-----
 Aali-Petri Alikoski
 Student                           | Microcomputer Expert
 Helsinki University of Technology | Neste Corporation,Chemicals,Finland
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Microsoft C/C++ 7.0 runs under OS/2?
Date: 3 Oct 1992 21:04:18 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Oct3.180440.29654@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>, by rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Kai-Uwe Rommel):
> In article <1992Sep26.073548.1@email.bony.com> eguerrino@email.bony.com writes:
>>Even if the MS C/C++ 7 compiler with the patches can run under
>>OS/2, the real question is whether or not it can be used to create
>>OS/2 applications. If so, is it creating 16-bit or 32-bit code?
>>If not, then it is useless for OS/2 developers.
>>Does any one know if the patches provide full support for OS/2
>>development? Several people in my company are in real need for
>>a c++ compiler that supports 32-bit OS/2, and we are just about
>>ready to forget about zortech and borland.
> 
> Microway has a native 32-bit C++ compiler for OS/2. It is listed in the
> latest Programmers Connection buyers guide for $595.

Also Symantec's Zortech C++ has been ported to OS/2 2.0.
	-Fully 32-bit
	-ANSI standard librairies, including multithreaded support
	-C++ Tools class library w/container classes, hash tables, lists, etc.
	-Supports 16-bit OS/2 1.x
It requires the IBM OS/2 Developer's Toolkit 2.0, and it is compatible
with IBM WorkFrame/2.  List price is $499, for registered Zortech users,
$249 for the upgrade.

Note: I do not own Zortech C++ for OS/2 2.0.  I'm just typing what is
      on the pamphlet I got in the mail from them.  Also 'The first C++
      Compiler for OS/2 2.0' is all over the pamphlet...

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From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee)
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:57:30 GMT

amah@IASTATE.EDU () writes:

>I agree 100%. Everyday a few of the computers in our lab hang up because of this
>problem. Some students save  their files in root directories and later delete
>them by using " del *.*".

>Although we have notices in lab asking them not to do this, it keeps happening
>at least on a couple of computers each day.


Mark your system files as read-only, hidden, system then, that way del *.*
can never touch them so only those who WANT to delete them can. Doesn't
solve sillieness like placing your files in the root but saves you a lot
of hassle on many occasions. Still, system files should be protected
more, I agree.

Erik















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