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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Eno`s Fractal Zoom ???
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:06:22 GMT

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

>> This is a new EP cd5 with a couple of remixes of this song, which is
>> actually from the "Nerve Net" release due early next month. 

>A "couple"?  The US CD5 has at least ten remixes.

There's two cd5's out now - one has I think 4 remixes of Fractal Zoom and
The Roil. And there's another that has 10 or 11 remixes of Fractal Zoom and
also The Roil track. That latter is someting like 70 minutes of music. I'm
not sure if it includes everything on the shorter cd5 I saw and heard. 

 - Malcolm
From: IO20081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (robert eric beckwith)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Fractal Zoom ???
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:16:35 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I heard a song called Fractal Zoom, and I think one of the
artists was Brian Eno.  Could someone inform me where I could
get this.
Also I have always liked anything I have heard by Eno, but
I haven't any of his disks what are some to get?
thanks...........robert.........................................
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: What is the Orb ?
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:41:10 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

Singles and EPs
---------------
    89	"Kiss" ep
Oct 89	"A Huge Ever-Growing Pulsating Brain That Rules From The Centre
	 Of The Ultraworld (Loving You)"
Nov 90	"Little Fluffy Clouds"
Jun 91	"Perpetual Dawn"
Jun 92	"Blue Room"

Albums
------
Apr 91	_The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld_ [UK 2CD, US 1CD]
Oct 91	_Peel Sessions_ [three tracks recorded live on Radio 1]
Dec 91	_Aubrey Mixes: The Ultraworld Excursions_ [remixes]
Jul 92	_U.F.Orb_
Aug 92	_Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld: Patterns And Textures_ [live]

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

Show me how you do that trick -- the one that makes me scream, she said
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: zrahd01@sunap1.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Daniel Haenle)
Subject: Re: Tangerine Dreamers go solo
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:51:23 GMT

There's also another album of the ex-TD Michael Hoenig, it's called
"Xcept one". Guest musicians: Harold Budd (he made an album with Brian Eno)
and Peter Baumann. It's relatively new. The music is a little "soulless",
because the whole album is totally programmed.

Daniel

Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: zsalman@rorge.engin.umich.edu (Zaid Kadhim Salman)
Subject: Re: New Age Funk
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 23:05:00 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: zsalman@rorge.engin.umich.edu


I've been looking all over the universe for Orbit's Strange Cargo. I have 
Strange Cargo 2, but I can't seem to find the prequel.


						--Zaid

P.S. Someone told me it was out of print.
Xref: sparky rec.music.newage:3034 alt.music.progressive:2086
From: edwardsp@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au (Paul Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage,alt.music.progressive
Subject: TUBULAR BELLS 2 (was Re: Mikey Oldfield and his new album thing.)
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:22:46 GMT

In article <sx#n77l@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>
> It's scheduled for general release in the US sometime in the next few weeks
> on Warner Bros.
> 

	Apparently the release date for Oz is next Tuesday, 25th August.  The 
girl I spoke to in the record store also mentioned a "rehashed" (that's her 
wording) mix of the original TUBULAR BELLS being released at the same time.  
She also spoke of a "limited gold disk"  (unlike AMAROK's "limited gold disk", 
which is more of an "unlimited" out here, but I digress) of TB2, which 
apparently has a different mix on it.  Does anyone have info on either of the 
above two items?

> --
> Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

Cheers,
Paul
edwardsp@insted.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: brandon@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Garland Operator 7-G)
Subject: Re: tangerine dream's fall tour
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Anime Doujou
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:21:00 GMT

In article <la>, thyat@sdf.lonestar.org (Tom Hyatt) writes...
> 
>While you're at it, could you tell me if they are planning a Dallas-area 
>concert is in the works for this tour?
>Last concert they had here was an outdoor venue, and it *rained*.  
>Arrrrgggg...

HA! Yeah right...the closest place you'll be able to get to see them is
Denver or Chicago...take your pick. I'm a little miffed myself, and would like
to be wrong in this case.

I went to the Optical Race tour in Dallas in 1988 but it didn't rain. 
In the words of Andy Summers, opening act for TD, "Fuck off, Gilbert!" 
..if this wasn't the last TD concert in Dallas, then I missed it :-(

Domo. Ja na.

Brandon Freels (Garland Operator 7-G)
brandon@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu  -or-  brandon@uokucsvx.bitnet
"I'm witty naturally, I don't need quotes."
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: scollins@cs.tcd.ie (Steven Collins)
Subject: Re: The Orb
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:26:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.193715.16984@sco.COM> jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car) writes:
>
>scollins@cs.tcd.ie (Steven Collins) writes:
>>The Blue Room is so
>>bloody ambient it gets annoying after a while.
>
>eh?  what about all those great reggae bits?

Sure there's some really cooking bits, but there's an awful lot of
signal noise between...

>
>i'm not interested in a TD vs Orb debate.  they both have their strengths.
>(current TD is excluded from this discussion, of course.  they have no
>strengths.)
>

My views precisely, I love to listen to both.  I'm really looking
forward to the Orb mixes of Tubular Bells II.  Should be cracking!

Steven Collins
From: mitch@banana.fedex.com (mitch wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Roland PG-200
Keywords: Still Looking 4
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:59:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Federal Express Corp.

I thought I had found a PG-200 from John Kent, but he has not returned
my calls. John, if you see this, I still would like to buy it from you.
Otherwise, does anyone know of a source for a PG-200 for the MKS-30/JX-3P?

Mitch Wood
mitch@banana.dis.fedex.com

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From: chrisr@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Chris Robson)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:09:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Yamaha PSR-400 PSR 500.. Help!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

|/ hpcvra:rec.music.synth / barretpj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Phil J Barrett) /  7:58 am  Aug 20, 1992 /
|The PSR-500 has three advantages over the 400:
	(lots of good stuff about PSR synths deleted)
|
|Phil
|
|--

  I remember before I moved to the US that the PSR series were a prety good
deal in the UK. I have not seen them in the US - what do they sell for over
here? Are they still as good a deal?

			Chris. xxx.



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From: zrahd01@sunap1.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Daniel Haenle)
Subject: Re: Wanted! List on Analogue Synth's with midi
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:14:40 GMT

Look at the answer on my request a couple of days ago. There's a german book.
DO YOU SPEAK GERMAN ?
You don't ?
Sorry...

Daniel
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:10:47 PDT
From:         Peter Uchytil <kentrox!ktxs8!peter@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Re: Tell me about the K2000
Comments: To: uunet!auvm.american.edu!synth-l@uunet.UU.NET

I just read in the latest EQ Magazine that Kurz is going to market the
K2000R - The Rackmount.  The info given was: list $2895, additional 4 audio
ports (10 total), 2 SCSI giving the ability to daisy chain multiple K2000Rs
to one hard disk.  They said everything else was the same as the keyboard
version.  It was just a little blurb.  This is all it said and all I know.

Pete
--
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peter@kentrox.com |  Portland, Oregon    |  And I tell them they are right"
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: holloway@clio (Bryan Holloway)
Subject: Media Vision Pro AudioSpectrum 16
Summary: Reviews Request
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:21:57 GMT
Keywords: multimedia 16-bit media vision


Has anyone had any experience with Media Vision's AudioSpectrum 16?
I've been looking around for an inexpensive quality multimedia board
for some time, and ran across what could be a real gem.

It claims to have the following features:

1) True 16-bit 44.1kHz sampling.

2) MIDI compatiable (although you need this $60 MidiMate thing that
   connects to the board's "game port".

3) A SCSI connector for adding on CD-ROMs in other MultiMedia applications.

4) Dual on-board FM Synthesizers with 22 note stereo polyphony.

If anyone has worked with one of these boards, I have a couple of questions:

  Are the sampling inputs balanced or not?

  Did anyone acquire the MidiMate, and if so, how many I/O/T's does it
  provide?

  Is the SCSI connector truly useful?  Can I daisy chain a number of
  SCSI devices?  (In other words, would this replace a stand-alone SCSI
  interface?)

  What kind of audio outputs does it provide...differential or single-ended?

  Is the software that comes with any good?  and on a similar note, is
  there any third-party software available?  It claims to be compatible
  with SoundBlaster and AdLib software, although I don't really know what
  this implies.  I thought the SB and AL boards didn't do sampling.

For the price, this board seems superior to any other I've seen so far.
The only other decent 16-bit card I've seen is the one from TurtleBeach
for around $800.  I'd like any info from people who have used the board,
or anyone who could recommend an equally good card for a simliar price.

Thanks!!

						- bryan
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From: huston@mksol.dseg.ti.com (william a huston)
Subject: Korg 01w/fd owners/users WANTED
Keywords: korg 01W mailing list
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:00:42 GMT



I am a new owner of a Korg 01W/fd and would like to
discuss aspects of this machine offline with other
users (problems/solutions, bugs, fine points, etc).

(Specifically, there is some weirdness in the sequencer
which I would like to discuss.)

If you are interested, send me you email address
(don't post). 

-- 
Bill Huston      214-480-4610 
Texas Instruments (Dallas/Forest Ln), ICC
MSG: ZAPA    email: huston@ap040.csc.ti.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Comments MIDI Quest
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:04:39 GMT

I have the Atari version of MidiQuest, their Universal Ed/Lib.
It is VERY non-intuitive ! Strange error messages, strange
behaviour, skimpy documents. I wouldn't buy it again. It does
work - sort of - but if something better came out, I'd get it.

A friend has GenEdit from Hybrid Arts. He is not very happy with it
and the company treats its customers badly.

I haven't tried XOR and though I do own some Dr. T software I don't
like their copy protection, proprietary-ness (many programs don't
directly support standard MIDI stuff like file formats), and general
attitude.

If anyone knows of a good ed/lib for the Atari or Mac, please tell me
about it !!! Enquiring minds want to know !!!


cheers,


Shiv

shiv@bnr.ca
From: janlappa@sara.cc.utu.fi
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: RE:JD800-MIGRAINE
Date: 15 Aug 92 12:14:56 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

I'm sorry, my former posting was without title (I'm connected via a modem
and a very long-distance line and it sometimes messes things up) so here's
the text again. The problem was about the modulation wheel not functioning
properly in JD-800.

The reason for the migraine might be that the potentiometer's (the actual
controller) track in the wheel has become dirty. It's the same thing as
in old amplifiers when they crack when you turn the volume control.
  The solution for the problem is to open up the controller side of the
machine, locate the potentiometer and spray it inside with a contact-
cleaning spray (available from the electronics shops). Right after the 
spraying the wheel should be turned back and forward for some time. This
will clean the track. If you're not familiar with the procedure maybe
some fellow with electronics experience will help.
  I had the same problem with my Matrix-6 and it helped.
  Hope this will work.
  Janne (janlappa@sara.cc.utu.fi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.dsp,comp.sys.hp
From: dana@emu.com (Dana Massie)
Subject: Re: AUDIO-CD READING ?
Organization: E-Mu Systems
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:18:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.132845.12795@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> panisset@lightning (Jean-Francois Panisset) writes:
...
>>
>>I have been told that the CDrom drive sold with the SGI Indigo really
>>can read the audio tracks over the SCSI interface, due to a changed
>>firmware in the CDrom drive. 
...
>
>Yes, the SGI CD-ROM drive can indeed read the audio tracks as data and send
>it over the SCSI bus. As far as a simple firmware change being required, I
>was told a different story: it seems that the standard encoding method for
>audio and data tracks specify different error-correction codes (a good thing).
>-- 
>Jean-Francois Panisset                    

What i have read is that CD-ROM is a standard that uses the data
blocks in the standard CD-Audio format but includes an additional
layer of Error correction for the data, over and above the
standard ECC used in the audio CD.

This is most certainly a firmware issue; for both DAT and CD, the drive 
manufacturer must provide the firmware to allow reading and
writing audio-only data.

So far, SGI is the only machine I have heard of that has a DAT drive that allows 
reading and writing audio data.  I don't know if their CD
drive supports this.

I had a friend tell me that CD companies deliberately 
left out the ability to read the audio data as a sort of
copy protect mechanism, but i dismissed this report as 
paranoid conspiracy theory...

dana massie
dana@emu.com

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.dsp,comp.sys.hp
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Subject: Re: AUDIO-CD READING ?
Organization: Sony Microsystems, San Jose, CA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:01:19 GMT


In article <Bt94nC.5zr@emu.com>, dana@emu.com (Dana Massie) writes:
|> I had a friend tell me that CD companies deliberately 
|> left out the ability to read the audio data as a sort of
|> copy protect mechanism, but i dismissed this report as 
|> paranoid conspiracy theory...

I'm sticking to my story that it just hasn't been important enough
for people to push for it.  Most computers really couldn't handle
the bandwidth requirements to do something with it.

After all, there are several CD players that produce digital output,
and several cards that can read this format (AudioMedia II on the
Macintosh should be able to read Sony CD output).  It's not impossible
to get the digital CD data, it just not as easy as some people would
like.

-- 
...David Elliott
...dce@smsc.sony.com | ...!{uunet,mips}!sonyusa!dce
...(408)944-4073
..."I take my arms and I wrap them around my art." - F
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jaz@icd.ab.com (Jack A. Zucker)
Subject: Re: Alesis SR-16 For Sale
Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:05:27 GMT


I picked mine up brand new from Guitar Plus (708) 439-7625 for $299.

-jaz
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: breeze@well.sf.ca.us (Jeff Baust)
Subject: CZ101 for sale
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 17:33:34 GMT




I have a Casio CZ101 for sale, in great shape, with a gig bag, RAM
cart filled with sounds, a book on programming it, and Dr T's
editor/librarian for the Atari ST.  All for $85!

From: smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Jim Smith)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:20:58 GMT
Subject: Re: K2000 < analog
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth

In rec.music.synth, shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:

    Keyboard had a 'minimoog' patch for the Yamaha TX81z 4-op FM box
    and it was pretty decent ! Mind you, the 81z is capable of waveforms
    more complex than sine waves to begin with, and this patch used all
    8 voices stacked and detuned to produce a huge monophonic sound.

Well, one of the TX81Z waveforms IS a sawtooth, as I recall.

    On sinewave only FM synths such as the DX7 you can get sawtooth and other
    waveforms using a pair of operators so using one of the algorithms
    that has 3 pairs of carrier-modulators to create some analog type sounds.

I disagree.  You may be able to get a sound that is vaguely reminiscent of
a sawtooth, but I was never able to get anything that I'd consider even
close to a sawtooth with just 2 operators and no feedback.  I got sort of
close (but still not satisfactorily close for my needs) with a three-op
stack with feedback on the top op, but even then the variations available
with modulator amplitude variation didn't resemble an analog low-pass filter.
The variation of harmonic amplitude with modulator intensity in FM is a 
function of the carrier to operator frequency ratios, the modulator amplitude,
and bessel functions.  After getting trained to that, it was a dead giveaway
for most FM patches.  After a while, all of my (couple of thousand) patches
for the DX7 began to sound the same to me.

    Having said that, I should point out there is no real substitute for
    analog - and I have no plans to give up my 3 moogs !

And, having said what I said, I think that FM is also a versatile, usable
synthesis method.  I just prefer it post-processed, and in a mix with other
instruments.  I remember when I saw Bo Tomlyn demo DX7s and TX816s alone.
Interesting, but just not quite sufficient for me.

Regards,

                   - Jim Smith  smithj@hpsad.sad.hp.com 
    "The meme for blind faith secures its own perpetuation by the simple 
     unconscious expedient of discouraging rational inquiry." - R. Dawkins

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Archer Sully)
Subject: Re: electric violins
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:09:04 GMT

In <1568@sousa.ltn.dec.com> benson@decwin.enet.dec.com writes:


*|>I have talked to Zeta who makes a violin and midi controller, but the 
*|>violins are well over $1000 and the controllers are about $1500. Zeta 
*|>has a wicked pickup system, but the prices are a little high for a 
*|>college student.
*|>
*|>Any one know of anything else or ever play an electric violin?
*|>
*|>-Scott
*
*Aside from the Zetas you mentioned, I've also seen ads for a new Steinberger
*electric, which at a glance looks like a robot grasshopper... It has no
*body at all  - just the neck, with a couple of legs going down to shoulder
*pads, and a rod going up to hold a chin rest.  I think they're even more
*expensive than the Zetas. Another one I've seen but know nothing about
*(except that I don't like the shape of the body) is Raad.
*

I played the Steinberger at NAMM.  Its weird.  Almost no string sound
(unlike the Zeta).  A very comfortable instrument to play, but SO expensive
($4000).  I haven't heard of anyone using one of these things yet.  I'd
like to get their tailpiece and retrofit it onto the Zeta.

*STRINGS recently (might even be the current issue, since it only comes out
*6 times a year) had a full article about electric violins, and mentioned
*a few others.  If the cost of a Zeta is a problem (it is for me - I bought
*my electric used), I doubt that any of the ones they mention will be real
*possibilities for you.  I think they talked about a maker named Jensen.
*

I have a brochure from Jensen.  Prices are less than list Zeta, but more
than discount.  It looks like it may be a better instrument, however.

*
*I think Zeta sells their bridges separately, so you might be able to improve
*your sound with one of those - I'm sure they're still not cheap, though.
*

They used to be $500.  The price might have gone up.

*Tom
*benson@star.enet.dec.com
*

Archer Sully <archer@sgi.com> | Stop me before I post again!

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: smill@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: DX100 transmits wierd sysex
Keywords: DX,blah,blah,blah
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 08:59:17 GMT

In article <rogalsky.713738582@sfu.ca> rogalsky@fraser.sfu.ca (Matthew Rogalsky) writes:
>I am toying with this little DX100 ... plugged it into a Mac
>running HMSL, started up the midi.scope, and was looking at
>the data as it came in.  Note on/off - fine.  Then I hit
>a program change and instead of seeing a simple MIDI program
>change message come into the computer I saw a sysex message
>of at least 100 bytes!!  I haven't got a manual for the DX100,
>so am curious to ask if anybody knows why this little
>synth doesn't send a normal program change.  I can't get it to
>do so no matter what buttons I push.  
>
>If you can offer info...
>thanks.
>Matt
>rogalsky@mailserver.sfu.ca
>

	I believe there is a mode that will send sysex patchdumps instead
of simple patch change commands.  I don't have access to the manual now, 
but will check on it monday and mail directly if I find out how
to toggle the mode.
-- 
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