From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: CBS News and Mojahedin
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:51:05 GMT

01saeid@ac.dal.ca writes:

>> 
>> If it is the MKO's objective to bring democracy to Iran then it need
>> only, and I mean ONLY, seek to gain legitimacy with the Iranian people.
>> The definition of a democracy is government by the people of said
>> country, NOT government by the people recognized by other nations. What
>> MKO is doing in the U.S. and other countries is NOT garnering
>> "legitimacy" for itself but rather gaining allies for the destruction of
>> Iran, in my opinion. The Iranian people must grant MKO legitimacy. If
>> they do not, then MKO can hardly claim a struggle for democracy.
>> 
>> Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
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>I don't think you are familiar with the type of government that is running
>the current affairs of iranian people. 

If Brad is not familiar with the type of government there, I am.
And I tell you one thing.  They are as BAD as you are.

>If there was any chance for the people of iran to choose a democractically
>we were never having this discussion and this government would not have
>been in power new. Our discussion should appreciate the fact the current
>government of iran in no way acts according to the laws and regulations
>defined democratic by the chrater of rights of united nations and many
>other amendments with the scope of human rights. 

There is no reason why people should replace a BAD government
with a BAD government and lose even more in the process.

>So destoying all the political opposition in iran does not provide the
>chance foe the people of iran to choose anything legitimitally. There
>was no way that organizations such as MKO to have a voice with in the
>governments departments and as far as I am concerned this took away the
>chance for them to democratically display their intentions and policies.
>Now you are arguing that the people of iran should decide the future 
>of MKO. This is possible at this point and that is why many refugees 
>have been created with in the last ten years of revolution. Solely
>because nobody can voice their opinion.

How many people voice their opinion when they leave Iran?
People are leaving mainly because of the lack of security and
social and economic hardships.  The majority of the people who
leave, just like the majority of Iranians, do not care for politics.
During the time of the Shah, there were no voice for ANY opposition.
But not too many people were leaving Iran for anywhere.

>I am not a memberr of MKO and I am solely voicing my opinions out of
>my experiences and I would like to add that as long as any struggle 
>for democracy no matter how minor once recognized by any political leader
>is a victory for that movement. Especially such governments as US that can
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>have profound effects on the voices of European Community and Asian countries.

Yes.  Such government as US!  Indeed US has a special place in your minds.
It has always had that status.  In one respect, it appears, that US has
always been your target, one way or another!

>So I must say that the big hit has been accomplished for the MKO to be
>recognized by the US as the ligilimate force of resistance.

And so, I must say that you have lost all your credibility with
the Iranian people.  Not that you care about them at all.

>Now every struggle for democracy must compromise before reaching to power.
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Who invented the word "SAAZESH NAAPAZEER"! (incompromisable)

>this is because the movement is in minority and has to mobilize any possible
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It has always been and it will always be a minority.

>instrument in demonstrating to the opposed government that although it
>may not have the power with in the government but it is gaining popularity
>abroad.

That is exactly why MKO is being kept alive by the IMPERIAL power
that you are admiring now.  They will use it as a nausiance for the 
government there.  When it comes to the negotiation with IRI,
you people are only going to be the biggest loosers in the world.
Believe me, IRI is a lot more capable when it comes to demonstrating
its intention to be in power (serving the IMPERIAL power).

>Don't forget that governments around the world have been the key force
>for trying to restore democracy with in iran. If their voice was not of
>important I assure you that there was no minority alive in the iran.

This is a totaly false statement.
If they could do something, they would stop mass killing of MKO
followers.  In most cases, the support of foreign governments have
hurt a lot more that it has ever helped.  Now, if you want to
believe that their support has nay value it is up to you.
One day you will learn that you are only being played around.
Unfortunately, it will be too late then.
Meanwhile, peoples struggle for democracy and freedom in Iran will continue.

>saeid
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