From: cdb@waikato.ac.nz (Craig D. Beere)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Re: Amway
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:24:07 GMT
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug19.162010.25895@newsgate.sps.mot.com>,
 rrbk50@email.sps.mot.com (Rick Cottle) writes:
> My point was that every time a current distributor posts
> something about Amway, he always includes the same lines of
> hype like a) I get to associate with all sorts of wonderful
> people, and b) ps, the money is really good too.  Nobody
> every wants to say why they think the money is good because
> I seriously doubt that they are making money.  

I think the real reason for this is that the people who are making money are
maybe not posting here.  The majority of posters to NetNews are probably
students, teachers, people in the business world.  The people who are earning
top money have usually quit their jobs so do not have the oppertunity to read
news.  Sound reasonable?

> They just
> want to believe it so bad that they keep saying it.
>
> I suspect this is true of you, too.  

Anyway, to me.  I am not making any net money.  It's all getting reinvested
into the business.  My story then perhaps would be discouraging to those who
want money quick, so that's why I don't give a lot of details.  See my comment
below about the rewards.

I do know people who have made money, but I consider their affairs private.  I
can give general stuff, but certainly not specific facts and figures.  And yes
they are wonderful people.  The wonderful people is one of the reasons I joined.

> The standard disclaimer is
> that if you don't succeed in Amway it is because you are lazy or
> stupid (to paraphrase you).  

Stupid wouldn't be my word, more like, umm, hmm, well, I can't think of another
word so I'll have to live with stupid.  Please don't take it as an insult,
anyone, its not intended as one.

This standard disclaimer applies not just to Amway but to almost anything in
life.  Everyone has the oppertunity to make their dreams come true.  If their
dreams are not coming true, whose fault is it?  Part of the fault always rests
with them (note not all of it, not none of it, just part of it).

> If I were to invest in a _REAL_ 
> business, then I would expect them to tell me exactly how much
> time and money would be required, the expected payback and 
> documented examples of others who have succeeded.

I do it this way:
1. What do you want?  (Money?  Time?  Recognition?)
2. In what timeframe do you want this?  (Months?  Years?)
Then this is how you go about getting it...

I can't tell you what time and money is required because I don't know what you
want and when you want it.  Note that both "what" and "when by" are important.

Numbers from other people are not going to mean anything to you unless they
have obtained exactly what you want in the same timeframe you want it by.

PS. Why is Amway not a _REAL_ business?

> I hope you are successful with this thing.  

Thank you.  I wish the same for you.

> I think you would
> agree that it is not for everybody.

Definately.  It is always a case of horses for courses and courses for horses. 
My attitude is that if I don't show people this business then how are they ever
going to know whether or not it is for them.

BTW Please don't confine these comments to Amway.  I feel they apply to any
occupation at all, not just MLMs or self-owned businesses, or even money-paying
jobs.

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** Craig D. Beere  (a.k.a. ++Byron)
** University of Waikato, New Zealand
** CDB@waikato.ac.nz
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