HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: outstanding MC parking (wuz Re: Motorcyclists get a break.)
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:29:01 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

John Howard Osborn (osborn@cs.utexas.edu) wrote:
: In article <JET.92Aug27120021@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
: >I don't even own a car...  But I might buy a rat truck to make
: >moving/shopping easier once I get the R100R tricked out...
: 
: I don't own a car either.  (My VW is non-functional and hasn't been used
: this year.)
: 
: I'm curious about what people ride when riding is the only choice.
: So, if you don't own a car, tell us what you ride.
: 
: (I'd almost, but not quite, be willing to bet that BMWs make up a very
: large percentage of this list.)
: 
: -
: -John H. Osborn
: -osborn@cs.utexas.edu
: -DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar

A Bay Um Vay, bien sur!

Au revoir, mon ami.

Nick (Le Grande Conducteur du Moto)  (Learning French, please excuse any 
                                      errors, I'm not very good).  DOD 1069

M'Lud.


Sidecar: I think that The List should show hometown, CoO AND machines.
From: frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:57:41 GMT
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles


*    When you've done the course, find someone who knows something about
*    motorcycle mechanics & drag 'em around to look at used bikes.  Get
*    something cheap that isn't too big ("too big" depends on how big you
*    are, and where you ride.  A small woman living in the city will do fine
*    with a 125; while a 5'10 amazon who lives in Nowhere, Texas and has to
*    ride 30 miles to get to the store will need something like a 400).  Get
*    a cheap used bike because you're likely to drop it when you're
*    learning, even if it's only a 0 mph parking-lot goof.  Ride the wheels
*    off that cheap bike, get some miles under your belt and get an idea of
*    what you really want, and then buy it.

Good advice accept for the 125cc part.  You have never driven in Boston.
Get at least a 250cc bike.

Frank Ball   1UR-M          frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com
Hewlett Packard   
1212 Valley House Drive     (707) 794-4168 work  (707) 538-3693 home
Rohnert Park CA 94928-4999  KC6WUG Seca 750 XT350 IT175 DoD#7566 I'm the NRA.
From: v058l789@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ethan A Bowerman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:57:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <4868@balrog.ctron.com>, tavares@ctron.com writes...
>David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu) wrote:
>: In article <1992Aug25.154852.7008@athena.mit.edu> rpearl@athena.mit.edu (Rachel A Pearl) writes:
>: >What would be a good bike for an average sized 34 year old woman to start out
>: >on?
>: 
>: I started on a Honda CL350.  I knew someone who toured the country on a
>: Suzuki GS450, and I believe he was still a newbie when he set out.
>: I'm average male height, so maybe you would find my bikes too tall, but
>: something in moderate small displacement (350-550) sounds good to me
>: for starters.  Ride it for a year and then get a bike you'll really like.
>: The small bike will be fine for around Cambridge and Boston and even out
>: into the country, though you may not want to take it on I-93 or even on
>: Storrow Drive (an ugly road in traffic) if you can avoid it.
>: 
>: -- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
>: -- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
> 
>My wife rides a Suzuki Savage LS650H it is a very low, very light
>single cylinder 650 bike. It is a cruiser style, hers has the straight
>handles bars. They also come with the pull back bars. Very fun bike.
>She loves it. I have ridden it myself, and it is a lot of fun.
>Nice torque, nice exhaust note. You should be able to pick one up for
>under 2 grand used. They only made them for about 3 or 4 years. My wife's
>model is an 87 or 86, i forget at the moment. 
> 
>The 650 has enough power for the city streets as well as highway.
>My wife has taken 2 long trips on hers: 1. From NH to NC (1050 miles 1 way)
>2. From NH to PEI Canada (600 miles 1 way) with no problems, except when
>she ran over a nail, but that's another story. 
> 
>Good Luck.
> 
>--
>Jack Tavares    KotHO DoD# 0570 BMWMOA# 58278 AMA# 651191 BMWRA# 16087
>83 R80ST	79 KZ LTD 400H (for sale) 
>Sorry, but at DoD minimum speed it is impossible to speak. There is just 
>too much wind noise.  At that speed I am spending all my concentration 
>allowance on riding, and cannot afford anymore thought for words.
>However, when I finish a ride and the bike is in the garage cooling down, 
>the single word that comes to mind is:
> 
>    BEER.

	If you're looking for a sportier bike for her to start out on,  try a 
smaller size GS.  I had a '89 GS500E.  I'm a big boy (6', 200 lbs.) but the
seat height on it was real low- on the order of 30-31".  Plenty fast (0-60
in 4.9,  109 top speed).  REAL LIGHT - 373 dry.  Motorcyclist recommended it as
the best beginner bike- slow enough to keep you out of big trouble (no torque
wheelies) but sharp enough to grow with you as you're handling skills increase.
That was a CRISP handling bike with on problem- the front fork was a bit
soft for me- but like I said I'm kinda big.  Should be fine for someone <150
lbs.  

	Let us know what you decide.

							Ethan

- A nighthawk type
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on VMAX
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:08:57 GMT

In article <l9qr3nINN1s6@spim.mips.com> cpaull@arctic.mips.com (Christopher Paull) writes:
|I am 5'5" and weigh 150lbs, and I ride my VMAX all over in town.  It 
|has a very low CG,  which makes it very easy to handle for a big bike.

  Yes, but it also has a long wheelbase and STILL weighs over 630 pounds.

|When comparing the motor to a ZX, or a GSXR or other in-line 4 remember
|that the VMAX motor is designed much more for torque than top end horse
|power.  As a result it feels very strong from the bottom, rather than feeling
|like you have to get the rev's up to get at the power.  Although it's really 
|great when the V-Boost Kicks (at 6K).  

  I've *never* had to get rev's up to get lots of power on the ZX - despite
it still being tuned for high-rpm peak horsepower.  Although, I believe the
V-max *does* have more low-end power than the ZX, up until about 4k rpm.  I
used to ride a V-4 and very much like the engine feel.  Personally, I like
the ZX more - a great part because of its twisty road handling without the
seating position of the bikes that are better at twisties, but thats
subjective.

|I have ridden passengers who have found this bike very comfortable.  In general
|I am very happy with this bike.  I have no problems in town, and it's really
| great on the Freeway.   I would prefer if the gas tank were a little bigger.

  It *is* a fine bike.  I was just addressing the nimrod who seemed to be
bragging that it was the fastest and most powerful thing on two wheels.  It
was at one time, and it really matters not that it isn't anymore...

Randy Davis                             UUCP: randy@megatek.com
("mean and nasty") ZX-11 #00072 Pilot         megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjdb@ellis.uchicago.edu (Charles Blair)
Subject: BMW starting problem
Reply-To: cjdb@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:29:36 GMT

I posted about this before, but here's the problem again with new
data.

The starter motor on my R100GS won't turn over if the bike is hot.
"Hot" means (a) the bike's been running more than 5 or 10 minutes, or
(b) the bike's been sitting overnight, but it's warm outside (like 75
degrees F or more). When "things" are cold, the starter motor turns
right over.

The person who responded to me the first time said it might have
something to do with oil leaking past a gasket into the the starter
motor. On my bike I don't think this is likely, as the starter sits on
top of the engine. I took the top and front engine covers off, and
everything in there looks very clean.

My tendency is to think in terms of a relay or something that stays
open if "things" (air or engine) are hot. Can someone point me to what
that something might be? (The Clymer manual I have is not as helpful
as I would like it to be on this.) 

Thanks. E-mail responses preferred.


-- 

Internet: chas@uchicago.edu
From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!!
Date: 31 Aug 1992 12:02:07 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

> Man, DWB, that stings.... straight from the mouth of a DOD GOD. I stand
> chastised before the DOD community (wimper, wimper...). Where is this
> KEEPER OF THE LIST? Is he a DOD GOD, demi-god, or just some brown-nosin',
> pussy-assed pee-on who is forced to be some kind of newsgroup secretary...
> 
> SHOW YOURSELF KOTL, AND GIVE ME MY NUMBER!!!!
> 
> 
> Rich Swift
> DOD # ------------- I AINT GOT ONE YET!
-- 

Um, waiter?  Yes, could you please get this man a clue?  He seems to have
dropped his on the floor and gotten it all dirty.

Geez find the FAQ and read the damn thing for crying out loud.  It's not
a task that requires all that much brain power, a qualification you have
so conveniently displyed for all the net to see.

Steve Mansfield	    | The system we've learned says we're equal under law
smm@uunet.uu.neta   | But the streets are reality, the weak and poor will fall
1983 Suzuki GS550E  | Let's tip the power balance and tear down the crown
DoD# 1718	    | Educate the masses, we'll burn the White House down.
Queensryche	    -       Speak the Word.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rowell@socrates.umd.edu (William Rowell)
Subject: Re: 93 Goof2
Keywords: goof2 cbr
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:57:01 GMT

kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Mills) writes:

>In article <1992Aug30.033849.1449@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> keb@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Ken E. Bartlett) writes:
>>93 GOOf2
>>I didn't get a chance to speak to anyone about them but 
>>would assume that they haven't changed much.

>Nope, the only major changes are cosmetic.  But I do think I like the
>black & blue color scheme on my '92 better than the new color schemes JMHO.

>Kevin Mills.

The guy at Cycles USA in Silver Spring MD here said there are more rear
suspension settings. That's probably the extent of engineering changes.
JMHO=I love the black/silver/red so much I bought one!

-billy

-- 
'93 CBR600F2P  Home = 301-871-7704 "...you see, there's fast, really fast,
'91 MR2 Turbo  Work = 301-443-4930  and STUPID fast. This one is a notch above
(9? ZX-11) <-Next bike?             STUPID fast" -salesdude on the ZX-11.
                                   "Hmmmmmmm!" -me
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Loud pipes (Was riding clothes choices )
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:24:26 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

>> Loud horns are nice.
>
>So are loud pipes.
> 
>- Roid

 I have to agree with this one. Even though I've been riding only a little
 more than a year (~12k miles). I have been run off the road or into the median
 5 times by cages abruptly changing lanes while I was right beside their front
 doors (not in their blind spots, unless they were completely tunnel-visioned).
 This is in usually heavy north Dallas commuter traffic, interestingly 3 of the
 cages were megabuck 500 series Mercedes-Benz's. After I installed a very loud
 exhaust system on my bike (yep, it's a Harley, now with the dreaded open drag
 pipes), that problem has gone away. Now cagers lock their doors when I pull up
 beside them at traffic lights after dark!!! To tell the truth, I kinda like
 the sound, but I *cringe* when riding home to my apartment late at night,
 fearing the inevitable complaint filed against me to the apartment manager.
 I *ULTRA-CRINGE* whenever I ride near a police car since these pipes are
 blatently illegal as hell, but after carefully considering all costs involved,
 I think the potential cost of getting a ticket is worth the slight reduction
 in probability that a cage will change lanes on top of me.

 Peace, (except when my motor is running!!!)

 Neal Howard                         | neal@cmptrc.lonestar,org
 '91 XLH-1200                        | CompuTrac, Inc. Richarson, TX.
 DoD #686 (yahoo, I finally "belong")| (214) 234-4241 x 337
 ============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: riding clothes choices
Followup-To: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.virginia.edu
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:48:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.172855.13732@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:

>  Suck me off Cock Breath.

such an erudite flame


obmoto-and-this-thread:  the good folks at aerostitch are making the suits as
they're ordered.  this may be the normal way of things, but it also means a
wait of four to six weeks from the ordering to the well-dressed posing.  i
didn't know this before i placed my order :-(, but now *you* do :-)

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
|                                                                          |
|  you act like a dick.  jokes are fine, but you have to make some sort    |
|    of motorcycle-related contribution in order to get away with it.      |
|                     -- DoD# (withheld), referring to me                  |
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From: dobosz_m@wfooff.enet.dec.com (Mike Dobosz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: NY Rte 17 sucks
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:44:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Westfield, Massachusetts


In article <1992Sep3.014159.19264@cs.cornell.edu>, karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes...
> 
>Route 20 (NOT an interstate!) is picturesque but slow in the western end
>of Massachusetts.  You get some nice views of the Pike (I90) as you cross
>it far from the interchanges.
> 
>In the eastern end of Mass., 20 is very slow and dangerous.  

The slow and dangerous part of Route ends as you leave Westfield westbound. 
It remains nice up to Pittsfield.  There is a State Police barracks in 
Russell, so keep it below Warp 9.

The section of Route 20 that goes through Wilbraham, Springfield, West 
Springfield and Westfield is quite bad.  4-lane undivided roads that 
mysteriously become two lanes without warning, peculiar local rules ("Hey, 
I'm merging _into_ the rotary so _I_ have the right-of-way!"), malls, urban 
sprawl...you get the picture.  If one were taking Route 20 coast-to-coast 
it wouldn't stand out as the pits, but it sure wouldn't be fun.  Avoid it.

Take the pike.  Get off at exit 3 (Westfield).  Take 202 to 20 (about 5 
minutes of city stuff).  Enjoy.
							Mike
-- 
             {decvax, ucbvax, allegra}!decwrl!wfooff.enet!dobosz_m
             dobosz_m%wfooff.enet@decwrl.dec.com 
             dobosz_m@wfooff.enet.dec.com               DoD # 0596
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 03:04:05 GMT

In article <6130285@hplsla.hp.com> kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder) writes:
>  Probably 80% of all the bikes in the world are <200cc.  Geez Laurie,
>I thought the "gotta have a big one" syndrome was a male thing!!!  :-)

I'd guess that at least 80% of all the bikes in the world are ZERO cc's
(i.e. bicycles).  For many millions of riders, speed and power are much
less a consideration than affordability and reliability.  We forget 
this in the US, but in many places the bicycle is a primary form of
transportation, not a toy.

>  Having just spent a couple of weeks in the Boston area on business (in
>a cage) I'd say the biggest consideration for a bike there is the
>suspension. [...]

Suspension is important but so is the power to keep up with that
vicious traffic.  You need to be able to accelerate at least as well
as a car when in Boston; I'm sure this is much less important when
you're going cross-country on back roads.  There are places where I
could see taking a bike of < 200 cc.  Boston is not one of them.
Could your S90 do 70 on the Interstate?

So I agree with Laurie, depending on where the bike is to be ridden.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M




From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:12:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Ok, I have almost decided
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

> >klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
> 
> >>Most rides are less than 45 min. long
> 
> >Blaine writes:
> 
> >Poser!
> 
>   I guess you live more than an hour from work, your favorite bar, and
> all your friends live out of state.
> 
> 
>                                  Jorg
> 
Poser!

Work: 7 min.  (I ride wy XT350)
Bars: I decline to answer and take the 5th Amendment
Friends: None who will agree to be seen with me.

Why do you have to have someplace to go TO???? 

Just GO!

My R100GS still doesn't get ridden for less than 1 hr at a time.
Just last night, I rode 80 miles up the canyon and back to do a
teensy little errand at the National Park. (an excuse)

Haven't you got someplace FUN to go?

Ron
(Nobody would call me a poser on a bike as ugly as an R100GS.....)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Foul Language (Was: riding clothes choices)
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:28:58 GMT

JK>   Suck me off Cock Breath.

I use this type of language just as much as the next person (just ask
the cager that filed the abusive language complaint against me) but
*THIS HAS NO PLACE IN A WIDELY DISTRIBUTED NEWSGROUP*!!!   Posting here
(or on one of the other groups) reaches a worldwide audience comprised
of people from many different cultures.  Posting immature nonsense like
the phrase cited above is equivalent to shouting the same thing in a
crowded shopping mall or in the lobby of the UN.  If you can't express
yourself in an intelligent manner without using unnecessary profane
language, perhaps you ought to get an education or keep your thoughts
to yourself.

This flame wasn't intended specifically at JK and I personally wasn't
offended by what was said; I've just grown very weary of seeing this
type of language used unnecessarily and totally out of context.

- Roid
From: mfisch@pdx064.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Matthew Fisch)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wheelies
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:27:48 GMT
Reply-To: mfisch@ichips.intel.com
Organization: Workgroup Computing Division, PDX, Intel

In article <Bu0EKx.IJ4@wpi.WPI.EDU>, rtaraz@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
|> I just bought a Kawi EX500 (first bike) and was wondering how I can practice
|> doing wheelis without killing myself or droping the bike?
|> 
|> What the hell is the dod number and what is Richard Swift's problem?
|> 
|> 

  Oh boy...I gues I'd better write a script which will filter out
the subject line for the endless flames that are going to converge
upon this one...  :-/




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|                          #75 - Team Banana Racing 			     |
|				SUZ GSXR-1186				     |
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|  "Just a little too much right hand and the Australian Grand Prix is over  |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ny.forsale,pa.forsale,nj.forsale
From: barb1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (barbara.iskowitz)
Subject: 1982 Honda CBX Motorcycle FOR SALE
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:34:10 GMT
Followup-To: poster


POSTING FOR A FRIEND

MOTORCYCLE FOR SALE - 1982 Honda CBX 
6 Cyl
6000 Miles
Color White
Excellent Condition   $3000

Motorcycle is located in Woodstock NY
914-679-9443 After 6:00 PM 

-- 
      /|			 Barbara Iskowitz
  \'o.O'		   	 AT&T Bell Labs - 200 Laurel Ave. 1E-333
  =(___)=			 Middletown, NJ 07748		
     U	JAZZ THE CAT!	   	 (908) 957-2078 email = barb1@mtuxo.att.com
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: lane splitting
Date: 31 Aug 1992 13:05:06 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 4349@island.COM, fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>
>It is legal in California. Also see the Nov '91 issue of Motorcyclist for
>info and saftey issues. Also, the official DMV booklet for motorcycles
>states EXPLICITLY that "Lane sharing is not illegal". 

But it does not state, "lane sharing is legal."  Besides, the DMV
booklets are meaningless.  The VC is the ONLY book that counts in
court.

>Finally, you may call the CHP and ask to talk to a traffic officer. Each one
>will tell you that it is legal to split lanes, and if you are cited by 
>an officer, it is up to him to show that you were doing it in an unsafe
>fashion.

Which he can do, to the satisfaction of the legal system, by stating,
"you were doing it in an unsafe fashion."   :^(

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Ken Orr)
Subject: Re: AFTERMARKET PIPES & JETS, ARE THEY WORTH IT?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:40:59 GMT

    I tired to email this but it keeps bouncing- (kinda like my checks :-)
    In reponse to your question of aftermarket pipes and jetting-

    Uhmmmm, Yes and No. The 600 I have now has a Vance & Hines 4 into 1. In 
the upper rev range (ie. close to redline) it has a slightly noticeable
difference in power. It definatley lacks power in the low to mid rpm range.
Since most street riding is in the low and MID rpm's I would prefer to have a 
stock exhaust. I bought this 600 with the V&H already on it. And *YES* it's 
loud AND obnoxious. I've ridden the stock equivalent of mine and could tell 
little difference,if any,on the street. Maybe on a track someone can push the
bike close enough to the limits to tell ? 
     My recommendartion would be to upgrade to a larger bike with the power
more suitable to what you are looking for. I'm planning on putting a stock 
exhaust back on mine as soon as funds allow. The cops around here often take
a second look when I go by :-( Besides what I've got is plenty fast enough.


     "86 Ninja 600R"                               K.O.
  "DOD #306 AMA #615088"                       T.I. Dallas Tx.
    "Eclipse GS Turbo"                      Orr@epcot.spdc.ti.com