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From: chrisp@efi.com (Chris Phoenix)
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas Ashers!
Organization: Electronics For Imaging, Inc.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:10:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.070609.18239@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>In article <77908@ut-emx.uucp> llama@pooh.cc.utexas.edu (knobette) writes:
>>... it's no more delusional than a the
>>situation of a computer programmer who's stuck on a project but keeps
>>trying to fix her old algorithm instead of finding a new one.
>
>This assumes that there is actually an alternative algorithm.
>There may not be one.
>
>Suppose that one needs a sorting algorithm that can do better than
>O(n * log(n)).  Unfortunately, it simply doesn't exist, no matter
>how _hard_ you wish for it.

Just in case there's no suicidal CS people out there, I'll respond
even though our news feed is so slow.

There is in fact an O(n) sorting algorithm.  It's called a bucket sort
or bin sort.  You can sort any number of N-digit numbers with only N
passes through the list.  The algorithm is even pretty simple.

I don't know if there is a lesson here that can be applied to suicidal
people or not.  Maybe that talking to someone else really can help,
even if you don't think there's any hope.


-- 
"The secrecy that shielded the meetings and written communications of the 
men at the top helped to perpetuate the false impression that they sought 
and weighed facts in their discussions."  
     -- Neil Sheehan, on US military leaders during the Vietnam War.
From: justin@mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: How to get hold of cyanide?
Date: 30 Aug 92 07:09:10 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In <1992Aug28.115657.27841@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:

>In article <92240.230316JXH147@psuvm.psu.edu> <JXH147@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>The subject asks the question... anyone have a good easy answer...
>>I have some... um... rats.. i need to get rid of..

Do they stand on two legs and hide their tails between them? I would 
recommend something a little more overt.. Machine gun, maybe? :)

>Look in the book called "Final Exit".  It doesn't say explicitly how
>to do it, but it does describe cases of some people who used it
>to say "farewell" and does describe how they obtained the stuff.

   Hopefully most everyone here knows something about US History, BUT.. :)
I was visiting the Lexington Cemetery this afternoon (such a lovely day and
all).. By the way, if you or anyone you know talks about the "good old days,"
visit your local cemetery and stand corrected as you look at rows and rows
of old tombstones with birthdates and dates of deaths no more than 20-25
years apart.. And then go find a bazillion or so of infants (usually the
graves with the small headstones) "Aged 3 Years" or so.. Good old days my
ass..
   Anyway, I took a gander at Henry Clay's gargantuan tomb, which only holds
the sarcophogi of him and his wife, but it's enormous. It's so friggin tall
that it's grounded to prevent from being damaged by lightning. In the back is
a charming tree that has been labeled by the National Historical Society as
"Having been here at the signing of the Constitution." Lots of old, tall
trees around, and the top of this tomb must be about 200 feet high.
   As many of you may know, Henry Clay was probably the greatest US statesmen
ever.. A man who, for one, ran in the rat-race for President that ended in
a tie and wound up on Capitol Hill (where he threw his support behind John
Quincy Adams, who of course won.. :). A man who also devoted most of his 
energy into preventing the Civil War (us Southern folks are still pissed 
about it, if any of you silly damn yankees are wondering..).
   Perhaps it's ironic, perhaps just amusing.. But Henry Clay wished to
have a very large Canadian Hemlock tree placed at the foot of the little
knoll (I guess you could call it a knoll) his tomb sits on.
   I had always wondered where I could get hemlock, and now I know.. :)
From: EUCLID@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: quote of the day
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:12:43 GMT
Organization: C.C.S.O.


 
|                               --Principia Discordia, p.00054
				  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
				  serious?  damn - need to look into
				  that whole "BoB" thing a little
				  more....
                    Principia Discordia predates the Church of the Subgenius;
the latter could be considered a commercial version of the former ...
Hail Eris!
 
e.k.
 
 
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Subject: DEATH BY MISADVENTURE
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:11:47 GMT

	Well, apparently no one here is within 98 Rock's brodcasting
radius (Baltimore radio station)...
	
	Now they'll probably never play "Death by Misadventure" again...

	I really hate it when something this trivial eats away at me.

						psycho kitten
From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: DEATH BY MISADVENTURE
Summary: an update
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:12:29 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark


	Ok, so there are people reading this group who can/do listen
to 98 Rock in Baltimore...

	I'll post the lyrics (if I can) when I get them... I'll at least
quote the good parts.  They may play it (and several other twisted tunes)
on Sept. 22... I hope so, becasue I could actually listen for them on
that day.

					AMW
					psycho kitten
 
Newsgroups: wpi.test,alt.suicide.holiday
From: gryphon@wpi.WPI.EDU (/dev/gryphon)
Subject: Re: THE APOCALYPSE IS HERE!
Keywords: false alarm, don't kill the kids yet
Organization: British-AnimeTech, Limited
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:35:55 GMT

In article <BtKpBF.8vI@wpi.WPI.EDU> megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23) writes:
>I have PROOF that the end of reality as we know it is here....
>
>I walked into the wedge at 0:15am Wednesday 8/26/92 and saw.....

>A 2-liter bottle of CAFFEINE FREE DIET MOUNTAIN DEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>WTFP????? 
>
>I have this bottle in my possession.... if anyone wishes me to present it
>to them as evidence (local of course) find me......
>
>There must not be much time left.....
>

I regret to inform you all that this is a false alarm.  Were the apocalypse to
be heralded by soft drinks, it would've arrived upwards of two and a half years
ago, with the test marketing (in various remote parts of Maine, one of which I
hail from) of Caffeine Free Diet Jolt.  Please relax, get out of your bomb 
shelters, loosen your sphincters, take a deep breath or two.  We are _not_ 
doomed.

Although I must admit, the doom of creation being prophesied by an object 
borne by Charles Schletzbaum _does_ have a rather convincing ring to it.

>Jer is my witness!!!!

...I shall not want?  Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of Jer, 
I shall fear no art?

--G.

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From: JXH147@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: apology/retraction:psycho kitten
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:17:14 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

To all ASHers and lurkers....
  I posted a request for information regarding the aquisition of some
cyanide for a little pest control.  I would like to thank all of those who
replied to me, I now have alot of leads to follow up.  In my email,  I
also received some requests to share any info I got, to help out fellow
pest-control-expert-wanna-be s.Psycho Kitten was extremely helpful, as
she send me an excerpt from the US methods.  I, in reply to the requests
for info sharing, forwarded out this info to two people on the net.  I
would like to publicly apologize to Psycho Kitten for distrubuting her
information without her permission, and would ask anyone who may have been
the recipient of trickle down copies of this info to not forward it to anyone
else.  Thank you, and I'm sorry for any inconvenience anyone may have been
put through.
  -Jonathan
JXH147@psuvm.psu.edu
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: To the dude from Germany
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:56:32 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


IF the dude from Germany I was talking to is still around, I want to 
mention my mailer got messed up and I lost your address, so if you still
wanna swap letters, please email me.

Thanks
Mike
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From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Subject: Re: *thunk*thunk*thunk*
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 15:10:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.003555.998@udel.edu> awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson) writes:
>Just banging my head against the monitor screen and the desk...
>
>					a very psycho kitten
>
>
>

(evil grin)..but such a fun kitten;->...
-- 
**************************************************************************
"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: How to get hold of cyanide?
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 11:56:57 GMT

In article <92240.230316JXH147@psuvm.psu.edu> <JXH147@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>The subject asks the question... anyone have a good easy answer...
>I have some... um... rats.. i need to get rid of..
>thanks, post here or email me...
>jonathan
>jxh147@psuvm.psu.edu

Look in the book called "Final Exit".  It doesn't say explicitly how
to do it, but it does describe cases of some people who used it
to say "farewell" and does describe how they obtained the stuff.

By the way, the author of the book does _not_ recommend that a
person use cyanide.

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From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Subject: Some Crap Posted Recently
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:10:31 GMT

My news has been acting up lately and I only saw a portion of what
looked like a hopelessly entangled discussion..on who knows what..
but I did see that someone was trying to make a case for
justifiable..excusable rape...what in the hell was that about?..I
don't want to flame until I know who said it and why..but thre
is no such thing as justifiable or *excusable rape*..if you think 
there is..just drop by the palace..I'll be glad to arrange an
excuseable rape of yourself by some well endowed Troll...then we
might see if your opinion stays the same..My Gods!..this group has
gotten crappy!

-- 
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"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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From: ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (Lucifuge)
Subject: Re: Dare To Feel The Unfamiliar/Let Go Of Pain
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:33:17 GMT

In <92239.220057U45301@uicvm.uic.edu> U45301@uicvm.uic.edu (Mary Jacobs) writes:

>>Oh please. You are paraphrasing Mary J. At least be original.

>But Ollie Dear, it is the truth!  ;)))  Honest it is!  Glad someone else
>can see it.

Ah! The *truth* is a strange animal...are you *sure* that you have it in
that cage for like the child looking at the Emperors New Clothes, I can
see nothing.

>That's fair I guess. . . .

Unlike life...

Ollie...
"I want you as the dream, not the reality,
 That closing goodbye kiss could fool me,"

Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Subject: Re: *thunk*thunk*thunk*
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:02:47 GMT

	Just crashing into the wall after wildly spinning about the
room like a top...

					Psycho kitten
					(in the upswing of mania...)

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From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas Ashers!
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 03:16:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.191849.25771@eskimo.celestial.com>
alpinist@eskimo.celestial.com (David Butler) writes:
>...
>     Such an interesting (and totally false) definition of 'reality' that
>people keep trying to push in here in attempts to justify negative and
>cynical feelings.
>     A person is fairly happy.  Most of his days are pretty good.  He likes
>life.  Then once in a five year period he gets robbed or beat up.  Then we
>say he 'got a dose of reality'.  Strange that something that happens one
>day in a five year span is considered 'reality', but the MAJORITY of life
>the 99.99% of life that isn't bad is totally ignored in the definition of
>reality.
>...

No.

Then _those_ people are not cynical.  They are probably tickled pink
with happiness.  Sure, some people's lives are just like that.

But others are not.  David, how would you feel if you had to live
with 1/4 of a century of physical and mental pain, much of it being
inflicted by others who told you that they were doing it for
_your_ own good?  How would it feel to know that you've struggled so
hard to help yourself while at the same time other people took 
potshots at you?

Dave, you'd be one cynical broken record who's only friend is a
can of beer.  Dave, let's try not to judge other people's pain.
Okay?

Maybe _your_ life is great, but some of us aren't so fortunate.

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From: EUCLID@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Subject: Re: Current Results of the Poll about Life after Death
Organization: C.C.S.O.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:58:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.035535.14725@leland.Stanford.EDU>
underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>
>
>P.S.
>One person wrote, "Yes, I request it [anonymity].  (Reading a.s.h is not
>exactly something to put on your C.V. :-))"  What does "C.V." stand for?
           c.v.= curricula vitae   i.e., a resume
euclid
Newsgroups: wpi.test,alt.suicide.holiday
From: megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Subject: THE APOCALYPSE IS HERE!
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:18:51 GMT

I have PROOF that the end of reality as we know it is here....

I walked into the wedge at 0:15am Wednesday 8/26/92 and saw.....

A 2-liter bottle of CAFFEINE FREE DIET MOUNTAIN DEW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WTFP????? 

I have this bottle in my possession.... if anyone wishes me to present it
to them as evidence (local of course) find me......

There must not be much time left.....

Jer is my witness!!!!

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From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Subject: Re: Anyone out there?
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:47:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.054836.17982@pegasus.com> alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe) writes:
>What's this..everyone offed themselves again..sigh..doomed to
>be alone on this mortal plane.....oh well..back to the palace..
>I'm sure there must be a few tourists or ex Disney characters
>I havn't tortured yet.
>
>;->
>
>-- 
>**************************************************************************
>"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
>						-Kali
>**************************************************************************

eeeeek..screech..clank...scrabble of little claws upon marble..

manical laughter echos in the deep unfathomable reaches of the Obsidian
Palace..

Poor Mickey...without his voice..he's taken to dressing up like a mime..
Christ the little shit is just as irritating *without* his voice..hmmm
Terminator..I think we need to *alter* Mickey a bit more...do you think
he really needs those skinney little arms?;->>

hey..I just noticed..part of my sig is missing...(thunder..!!!)
What happened..? I bet it is that horrible netherperson..he, the inventor
of the most disgusting sigs in the universe has probably tampered..

...god..this is bad..doomed to answering my own posts..

oh well..I like my own company anway;->>>

Time for a little snacky..now where did that really silly little
mouse go that was in that Disney movie that was so boring..I had to
leave..Ansel? was that the little creep's name....probably..close
enough..Ansel..little Ansel..come to mumsy..I've got a little treat
for you..(very very wicked grin)

-- 
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"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Subject: Re: *thunk*thunk*thunk*
Summary: *whack*whack*whack* 
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:35:55 GMT

Just banging my head against the monitor screen and the desk...

					a very psycho kitten

Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: alpinist@eskimo.celestial.com (David Butler)
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas Ashers!
Organization: =>ESKIMO NORTH (206) 367-3837 SEATTLE, WA.<=
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:18:49 GMT



In article <1992Aug24.175916.18263@linus.mitre.org> sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes:
>In article <1992Aug23.174650.190@eskimo.celestial.com> alpinist@eskimo.celestial.com (David Butler) writes:

>>    Actually, this is largely the point I was trying to make.  That there is
>>balance.  Posts were being made that it is more realistic to be cynical.
>>People were seeming to express that negative experiences mean that it is
>>alright to dwell only on the negatives and feel bad all the time.

>No, but they tend to make one aware of reality, and IMHO, painfully aware
>is better than being asleep and unaware...

     Such an interesting (and totally false) definition of 'reality' that
people keep trying to push in here in attempts to justify negative and
cynical feelings.
     A person is fairly happy.  Most of his days are pretty good.  He likes
life.  Then once in a five year period he gets robbed or beat up.  Then we
say he 'got a dose of reality'.  Strange that something that happens one
day in a five year span is considered 'reality', but the MAJORITY of life
the 99.99% of life that isn't bad is totally ignored in the definition of
reality.
    I've used the example of the newspapers (and other news media) before.
A source of information that mostly only focuses on the worst person in
10,000 people.  Those worst people, the worst happenings, the worst .01%
of life is 'reality' while the rest, the majority of life that isn't so
bad, doesn't fall into the definition of reality at all.
    And it doesn't help any in the rare instance that the news reports the
accomplishments of one person in 10,000 that is positive and succeeds despite
the odds.  We just convince ourselves that we could never aspire to match them
and that they are so rare the chances of us coming across them are almost
nil.  But still the majority of news articles which focuses on people who
are just as rare in the negative direction we define as reality.
    So get off this 'reality is painful' or 'cynicism = realism' bullshit
and realize that you are narrowly focused on a negative bias and if you
chose to see the balance (both positive and negative are in abundance)
you could have a positive outlook JUST AS EASILY as a negative one.
Sure, life hurts sometimes.  But if you define only when life hurts as
the definition of 'reality' or if you find yourself feeling pain on a
regular basis then it is not life that sucks but your negative bias in
perception of life.
     'painfully aware' is sure a lot worse if you're asleep and unaware
of the positives.

-- 
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* Dave                          *               The Alpinist               *
* alpinist@eskimo.celestial.com *            DARE to be stoopid!           *
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From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Subject: Re: apology/retraction:psycho kitten
Summary: *moan* 
Organization: none 
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:44:06 GMT

	*moan* (this is what I get for overreacting...)

	There was no need for any apologies... i just freaked out when
someone emailed me asking me questions about the mail I sent Jonathan --
esp. since I didn't have (wasn't given) a clue about how this third
person got the mail. (Of course, I rarely have a clue...)   

	Just a miscommunication... I don't mind that the info I gave
Jonathan is passed around. I'd just like my name and email address 
appended to it so anyone down the line can email me with any questions
or corrections.

					a very psycho kitten