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From: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: You got to start the righthanders
Date: 14 Oct 1992 02:28:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


     Well, maybe not if it was Walter Johnson on the hill, but how about it -
Pirate righthanded platoon players are awesome as we hit the middle of
game 6.  I say if there's a game 7, dang them torpedoes and "by the book"
people - the Pirates should stick with the hot players and start their
righthanded platoon against John Smoltz.  I know I would start at least
one of them, if not all 3 among Redus, Slaught, and McClendon.  They are
the hitters that are hottest right now, and can do the most good, it seems.
(If I had to start one, it would be McClendon or Redus.  Slaught isn't as
hot as these 2, and he'll need the day off after catching a knuckler.)
     Another thought - is Avery available in the 'pen?  I don't know how
many pitches he threw in game 5, but he couldn't have thrown many, as he went
1/3 of an inning.  I think he could go an inning or so, then just be pushed
back to a Sunday start in the World Series, with Glavine starting the 1st
one.  Smoltz, of course, would have to wait till next Tuesday.
     That's the view from here.  Back to studying.
-- 
Doug Fowler: dxf12@po.CWRU.edu      :    "Every baby born into the world is
Real home: Canton, Ohio             :  finer than the last."--Charles Dickens
 Trying to follow in the path of our :     "A baby is an inestimable
Lord;anything close will be a success:  blessing and bother."--Mark Twain
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.college
From: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu (George B. Ross)
Subject: Re: '93 World Series Predict!
Reply-To: gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:32:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.185512.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>  
11rpotter@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
> 
> My predict for 1993 Colliage World Series Championship belong to:
> 
> 		UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LONGHORNS!!!!
> 
> 			'GUS'BALL #1
> 
> 		Hope Shena Morenz Will Play For Horns!
> 
> 
> 
> ** Roger Brent Potter, Jr.           Gallaudet University (Deaf Liberal  
Art)**
> ** 800 Flordia Avenue, NE	     					     
**
> ** PO BOX 1989			     Texas Longhorns #1-Hook'em  
Horns!!!    **
> ** Washington, DC  20002						     
**

Of course you know, they'll have to beat Wichita State to be the
Real(tm) Number One Team in America.  With the returning lettermen
on the WSU squad, even without the likes of Chris Wimmer (now a
SF Giant) and several of the starting pitching rotation, you can
count on WSU to be pre-season ranked in the top five.
WSU usually has (i haven't seen the 93 schedule yet) an easy
schedule early in the season.  Why you ask?  To make up for
not playing baseball until mid February, unlike Texas, Miami
Stanford, Arizona State, Florida...the list goes on...all these
schools can start playing outdoors much earlier than any midwest
team due to the weather.  Saves a lot of wear on the pitching 
rotation when they get an extra day or two between starts.
WSU typically plays 55-60 games in about 90 days.  Anyone 
have any stats for the warm climate teams?

Go Shocks...spank those Oklahoma State Cowpokes
gotta plug the current school too...
Go Irish...they've climbed in the polls every year...look out!

--
| George Ross                  | Happy, happy!  Joy, joy!         |
| gross@stimpy.ame.nd.edu      |         Stimpson J. Cat          |
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.college
From: dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee)
Subject: Re: '93 World Series Predict!
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:06:39 GMT

kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer) writes:

>In article <1992Oct15.185512.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> 11rpotter@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>>
>>My predict for 1993 Colliage World Series Championship belong to:
>>
>>		UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LONGHORNS!!!!
>>
>>			'GUS'BALL #1
>>
>>		Hope Shena Morenz Will Play For Horns!
> Texas is tradtionally one of the best college baseball teams, but I like
>Miami, FL...


Why don't we first get basketball rolling, then worry about baseball :-)

David

-- 
               David K. Magee | "Mandrake! Get over here and feed me that  
         MIS Graduate Student |  belt boy.  The Redcoats are coming! "
 Mississippi State University |
          dkm2@ra.msstate.edu |   -  General Jack Ripper, Dr. Strangelove
From: gjoslin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.college
Subject: Calvin Murray
Keywords: Status for UT baseball
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:53:12 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Does anyone know the status of Calvin Murray? Is he attending classes
for the fall semester? I don't believe he has been playing in the UT
fall World Series. Is this related to the SF Giants having the rights to 
sign him?

Related Question: Do the Giants still have rights to him and is this
related in any way to his having played on the USA Olympic team?
-- 
************************************************************************
*              Gary Joslin                                             *
*              Computer Science, University of Texas at Austin         *
*              gjoslin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu                              *
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.college
From: kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Subject: Re: '93 World Series Predict!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:34:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.185512.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu> 11rpotter@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>
>My predict for 1993 Colliage World Series Championship belong to:
>
>		UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LONGHORNS!!!!
>
>			'GUS'BALL #1
>
>		Hope Shena Morenz Will Play For Horns!
>
>
>
>******************************************************************************
>**   									    **
>**									    **
>** Roger Brent Potter, Jr.           Gallaudet University (Deaf Liberal Art)**
>** 800 Flordia Avenue, NE	     					    **
>** PO BOX 1989			     Texas Longhorns #1-Hook'em Horns!!!    **
>** Washington, DC  20002						    **
>**									    **
>******************************************************************************
>
>

 Texas is tradtionally one of the best college baseball teams, but I like
Miami, FL...
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.college
Subject: Re: '93 World Series Predict!
Keywords: tiguzz
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:25:20 GMT
Organization: chevron

Bevo writes:
>
>My predict for 1993 Colliage World Series Championship belong to:
                     ^^^^^^^^
>		UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LONGHORNS!!!!
>
>			'GUS'BALL #1

Well, you can have whatever this is... Me and Dem Tiguzz will be eyeing
one more College World Series Championship come May.
(neaux offense ye woof gods)

Pepperdine Schmepperdine.


-- 
**************************************************************************
GEAUX TIGERS!!!!!!!!	|     Dudd: "Lets play 'Never Hit Yer Granny 
GEAUX SAINTS!!!!!!!!    | 		with a Great Big Stick.'"
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.college
From: 11rpotter@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: '93 World Series Predict!
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:55:12 GMT


My predict for 1993 Colliage World Series Championship belong to:

		UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS LONGHORNS!!!!

			'GUS'BALL #1

		Hope Shena Morenz Will Play For Horns!



******************************************************************************
**   									    **
**									    **
** Roger Brent Potter, Jr.           Gallaudet University (Deaf Liberal Art)**
** 800 Flordia Avenue, NE	     					    **
** PO BOX 1989			     Texas Longhorns #1-Hook'em Horns!!!    **
** Washington, DC  20002						    **
**									    **
******************************************************************************


Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: RG's 1992 Tribe Front Office Report Card - addendum
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 00:51:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.193918.23100@news.columbia.edu> rl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Lamoureux) writes:

>If I'm not mistaken, I think I read in this morning's NY Times that
>Tom Benson (?), the owner of the New Orleans Saints, has bought
>the Charlotte Knights, and will be moving them to New Orleans for
>the 1993 season.

Yes, but these Charlotte Knights are the AA club.  The AAA Charlotte club is
an addition for next season.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Sheffield is NL MVP
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:15:51 GMT

In article <6930@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave) writes:
>Thus spake fester@island.COM (Mike Fester):

>>In article <1992Oct5.235038.9656@cs.wayne.edu> dfl@math.wayne.edu (David Frohardt-Lane) writes:

>>>That's probably true, but most teams in the majors (if not all) need OBP
>>>more than they need SLG, so therefore OBP is more valuable.

>>?? It depends on your team. As both contribute to scoring (and BTW, for the
>>most part, they are the same thing) 

>For the league as a whole, they are pretty much the same thing.  In fact, the
>definition of "good hitter" might just as well be "one for whom OBP and SLG
>are not at all the same thing".

>>it would depend on your team's needs. 
>>Another high OBPer behind Thomas isn't going to drive him in any more often.

>This is true, but misleading.  Another high OBPer behind Thomas *may* cause

Not really misleading. Another high OBPer behind Thomas would probably not 
do a lot of good UNLESS the guys behind HIM were capable of driving in runs.

>Thomas to be driven in more often (i.e. may increase Thomas's runs scored),
>and will almost certainly cause the team's overall run scoring to improve,
>even without getting the RBIs himself.  What he gives up in runner-advancing,
>he makes up for in inning-extending, moving Thomas into scoring position, and
>getting on base himself.  Who gets the RBIs is irrelevant.

Inning extended, Fisk up, inning over, extra LOB. No RBI. Hardly irrelevant.
At least, no more irrelevant than who gets a hit.

Mike
>
>
>
>
>-- 
>       David Tate        |"Out of the dugout endlessly swinging,
> dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu | Out of the manager's throat, the sound fundamentals,
> Prof. of Story Problems | Out of the six-month season..."            
> Member ORSA, TIMS, SABR | 	Walt "Lefty" Whitman


-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: HBP totals needed in a bad way
From: dhart@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:12:45 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

Help!

I need hit-by-pitch totals for the season, and can't find a newspaper that
prints them.  Could someone either mail me a list of all players' HBP, or let
me know where I can get one soon?

Thanks

Dorian
From: jjd@TEAK.CRAY.COM (Jeff Drummond)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: YOU make the call!
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:38:22 GMT

Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <Ahn-131092104902@branford-college-node.net.yale.edu> Ahn@pop.cis.yale.edu (Eugene R. Ahn) writes:
>OK baseball buffs. It's time for Euge's Wacked Out "You make the Call"
>
>I had a dream that I was thrown out at home after trying to score from
>third on a fly ball to the OF. I actually crossed the plate well before the
>ball came to home, but apparently I had left third too early. On an instant
>replay, the OF bobbled the ball. The ball hit the palm of his glove,
>bounced down. He reached with his hand and knocked the ball back up in the
>air. Three seconds later, the ball was in his glove without having hit the
>ground. The refs ruled that I had left third right after the ball bounced
>off his glove but way before he had actually caught the ball. Thus I had
>left 3rd too early and was out. Inning was over and the Braves' winning and
>clinching run of the NLCS was nullified in the bottom of the ninth. Pirates
>went on to win the 6th and 7th game and the NL title. :-(. Barry actually
>hit a homer in the 7th to make Braves fans say "oohhhh, this IS a strange
>series."
>
>Were the refs right?

The runner may leave the base, without liability to be put out, after a
fielder touches the ball, regardless of if or when a fielder actually
completes the catch.

If the umpire actually ruled that you left third after the ball bounced
off the fielder's glove and yet still called you out on appeal, then the
umpire is confused about the rules and Cox should protest the game.
Hopefully, the protest would be upheld and your run would count.  The
game would then be replayed from that point.

If the umpire ruled that you left third before the ball was touched by
the outfielder, then it's a judgement call and the decision of the umpire
is final.  You do--however--qualify for the Lonnie Smith Baserunning [sic]
Award (TM).

What the instant replay does or does not show is not relevant to the
decision.

>--
>Mos Eisley  
>"Children's television is like dog food. They don't care what it tastes
>like as long as the kids eat it." Bob Camp, producer, now director of R&S,
>on TV networks

-Jeff    jjd@cray.com
--
"Be like the forces of correction:
when the ball is in play, there is only the tag;
when the play is over, there is only the appeal;
when the umpire errs, there is only the protest."
-Lao "Lefty" Tzu in _The_Tao_of_Baseball_, Chapter 23.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: mcclure@wild.ucis.vill.edu (MCCLURE HAROLD)
Subject: BRAVES-PIRATES REPORT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Villanova University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:41:00 GMT

Just as I promised to keep the baseball fans of Europe posted on the NL 
championship, I head off for Pittsburgh and away from my VAX account. A
slightly belated posting for games 3, 4, and 5 if the other postings were
not clear.

GAME 3: Wakeman the knuckleballer holds the CHOP to only 3 runs, while
Glavine lets the Pirates get 3. Series: Braves 2/Pirates 1. This game is 
interesting because game 6 will be a rematch. The game seemed closer than
the CBS and Philly Inquiry reports indicated. Glavine wasn't bad, but he wasn't
Cy Young looking either. Wakeman did well, but he was a bit fortunate not to be
really tagged. I say that mostly because the Pirates made some sensational 
defensive plays, including 2 by Wakeman himself. There were several sharply 
hit balls foul including a shot by Blauser that barely missed being inside
rather rather outside the left field foul pole which would have given the 
Braves a 4-3 late lead.

GAME 4: Drabek was tough at first with a few blown opportunities for the Braves
while the Pirates took an early lead off of Smoltz. The Braves finally went
up 6-3 when the Pirates started a late rally pulling to 6-4 and treatening to 
do more. In comes Mike Stanton who puts out the fire. Reardon got the save, but
Stanton deserved it. Final tally: Braves 6, Pirates 4. Strikeout to walks were
interesting...Braves pitching staff 14 strikeouts and 5 walks...Pirate's staff
2 strikeouts and 4 walks, but the Pirates did get 3 double plays. Most
interesting decision was to intentionally walk Lemke with 2 outs to get to 
Smoltz who burned them with a hit that drove one run, followed by a Nixon hit 
(4 for 5) driving in a second run...Series 3-1.

GAME 5: Pirates win 7-1. Avery tagged for 4 runs before the 2nd out of the 
1st inning and Walk looking sensational. THANK GOD the Braves won't face a Walk
start again. Not only was the hitting and pitching awful, but the fielding was
subpar to say the least. Way to get the bugs out in only one loss Braves, and 
find a way to put the Wake-MAN to bed early Tuesday night.

Query if the unfortunate happens: Suppose that the BUCS get lucky and get to 
have a game 7? Who do they start. Smoltz goes for Atlanta, no question. Do you
go with the 2-time loser, Drabek since he is the ace or Jackson who got bombed
in game 2? Wakeman and Walk won't start, so could it be Tomlin. I know Leyland
wants to make this decision, but it's a toughie. 

Let's make his job easier by pulling for Tuesday to be it...AND go Oakland. I 
had a nightmare last night that Jack Morris was on the mound for another 
World Series game 7.

Sign at 3 Rivers Saturday night: 

BRAVERY YES

PIRACY NO
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: jeffr@ssec.wisc.edu (Jeff Ramin)
Subject: Sanders vs McCarver
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Space Science and Engineering Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:06:14 GMT

I'm very surprised I haven't seen any postings concerning what Deion "I'm
a two sport athlete and God and everybody loves me and I can't do anything
wrong" Sanders did to Tim McCarver in the locker room after the Braves win.

For those of you who don't know, he dumped several {4 I think} coolers of
ice water on McCarver instead of champagne because he wasn't happy about
some criticizing remarks McCarver made about Sanders playing football for
the Falcons Sunday when he had told the Braves he wouldn't.  McCarver was
visibly upset; the situation wasn't too far away from punches.

I never liked him.  I'm starting to despise him.  Talk about an attitude
problem.
From: larryw@sun.lclark.edu (Larry Westdahl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: World Series
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:28:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Oct7.042848.6933
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR


The Blue Jays and the Pirates have something in common.  Like the Utah
Jazz, the Broncos, the Bills, the Vikings, and the Nicks, they are always
going to be in the thick of things, but they will never make it over the
top.  There is something about post season play that transforms them.

Braves Vs. Oakland, with a very, very slight edge to the Braves.
When the series arrives at game 7, Oaklands experience just might be
enough.

--
From: baseball@catch-the-fever.scd.ucar.edu (Gregg Walters)
Subject: Re: Who's winning game #6 - ALCS
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:20:09 GMT

Third inning.
Jays scored a run on a ground rule double (touched by a fan).
Next batter, Maldonado, 3-run homer.  Jays 6, As 0.
Borders single with 2 out, LaRussa to the mound...

Gregg
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: drw3l@delmarva.evsc.Virginia.EDU (David Robert Walker)
Subject: Re: my CY award was...
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:56:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.103313.189@indyvax.iupui.edu> dcbeck@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
>Roger Clemens looks like a good choice for the CY Young award because he is THE 
>most dominating pitcher in the American Leaugue.  But I question how it could
>be a toss-up between Clemens and Mussina based on your reasoning.  You like to
>see lots of strikeouts and lots of innings.  Guzman and Appier were deleted
>from the list because they didn't have enough innings.  Why wasn't Mussina
>deleted because of his strikeouts?  Mussina pitched 241 innings and had 130 K's
>while Guzman pitched 180.2 innings and had 165 K's.  130 K's is not a lot, and
>since it took 241 innings to get them Mussina was not a dominating strikeout
>pitcher like Clemens.
>
>Cal Eldred had a terrible spring, and the Brewers didn't have room for him on
>their pitching staff, so he began the season at AAA.
>
Hre's some fuel for these ongoing Cy, ROY, MVP debates. I just finished
calculating my park-adjustments (Note to Mr. Spira: could you please e-mail
me so I can get a double-check on these figures? Thanks.). Here goes:

Bal  .989   Bos  1.054  Cal  1.040  Chi  .950  Cle  1.074  Det  1.006
KC  1.017   Mil   .903  Min  1.001  NY  1.042  Oak   .978  Sea  1.018
Tex  .970   Tor   .991

Atl 1.011   Chi  1.005  Cin  1.014  Hou  .943  LA   .951   Mon  1.081
NY   .948   Phi  1.004  Pit   .994  StL 1.011  SD  1.073   SF    .986

Formula  X=( (R+RA)/G home ) / ( (R+RA)/G road)

         PF=.5* (X + (N-X)/(N-1) ), where N is # of teams in lge

So, for the AL
Cy: Clemens is in a strong hitters park; Mussina, Morris and Guzman
are essentially neutral; McDowell is ina pitcher's park; Eck is also 
in a pitcher's park. All the Brewers are in a STRONG pitchers park.
Edge to Clemens.

ROY: Eldred is in a pitcher's park; the contrast between there and
Denver must be HUGE. Listach gets boosted; Lofton gets lowered. Go for
Listach.

MVP: Big Frank gets a boost, Carter stays pretty much in place (as
does Alomar, far more deserving, IMO). Martinez stays in place. McGwire
gets a boost. And give some attention to Molitor.

For the NL:
Cy: Glavine and Maddux are even in the best hotters parks that aren't
this year. Looking at Montreal's PF, Dennis Martinez looks a lot better
(makes me glad I put him on my ballot.)

ROY: Karros gets a strong lift, at least enough to lift him to average
1B status. Alou gets clobbered. Reggie Sanders isn't affected much.
I'd say that leaves Sanders well ahead (sabermetrically speaking)

MVP: Bonds has the numbers in aneutral park. Sheffield has (lesser)
numbers in the 2nd best hitting park in the league this year.
Pendleton doesn't have the numbers.

Of course, these are only the opinions of a SDCN, and as such may be
freely ignored by the rogers of the networld.

Clay D.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: mjones@fenway.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones)
Subject: Re: Alomar: Great Situational Hitter
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:33:49 GMT
Reply-To: mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Corp. Kingston NY

In article <1992Oct12.124106.27121@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tim Connors ) writes:
>
>Wow! After seeing Roberto Alomars' clutch homer off Eck in game 4 of the
>ALCS, I have no doubt that he is an outstanding situational hitter. He
>will always give you what you need, a sacrifice, extra bases and even a
>homer. He is going to be a force for many years to come.

Naah. He's an OK hitter, I guess, but what really happened was that that bum
Eckersley choked again. He's always been a choker in the post-season.
Remember Kirk Gibson? I bet LaRussa doesn't let him pitch again in the
playoffs after that dinger.

And hey, what about that gutsy Jack Morris? 9 runs in 12.1 innings! That's
a 6.57 ERA.  What a clutch performer! Now *there's* a big game pitcher!

(Massive sarcasm alert, if you didn't already figure it out.)

   Mike Jones  |  AIX/ESA Development  |  mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com

Bob Gibson is the luckiest pitcher I ever saw. He always pitches when the
other team doesn't score any runs.
	- Tim McCarver
From: mcclure@wild.ucis.vill.edu (MCCLURE HAROLD)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: RE: Game Summaries
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:25:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

Several subscribers have said that they would like playoff game summaries. In
the spirit of international cooperation, I shall do my part and try to post NL
games as objectively as a Braves fan can. Could someone esle do the AL games?

Game 1: John Smoltz pitched very well giving up only 1 solo home run to Lind
(of all people) while Barry Bonds' et al. troubles continued. Drabek was NOT as
effective as Pirates fans would hope but Walk was. Final score Braves 5, Pirates
1.

Game 2: The launching pad comes alive. While Avery extended his scorless inning
streak, the Braves got 4 off Danny Jackson, and then Ron Gant hit a grand slam
off Walk. Bonds et al. made it interesting with a 4 run inning but then got 
only one more while the Braves had a 5 run inning. Braves 13 Pirates 5 so the
series moves to Pittsburgh with the Braves up 2 games to 0.