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From: kannan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Kannan Subramanian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RSS ( MP Government's Silent revolution in Education)
Keywords: Reply to Javed
Date: 6 Sep 92 04:12:50 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Sep5.170704@IASTATE.EDU> porayath@IASTATE.EDU (Rajiv Porayath) writes:

>        Unless we agree on the word cultural aspects of Indian civilization
>this discussion will not yield any conclusion.What I gather from the cultural
>aspects of Indian civilization means the culture of Indian society dating back
>to BC before the advent of either islam or christanity.This goes back to the
>vedas,gita,ram,Krishna,buddha ,mahavir,ashoka etc.All of which originated in
>India and flourished here.I do not include the culture that developed elsewhere
>and made its way to India.

I'm curious to know why "culture" that originated outside current Indian 
borders and got assimilated into the Indian fabric must be excluded from the
umbrella of "Indian culture". 

Also wondering why events that occured before the advent of Islam or 
Christianity must be favored over the influences of the last two thousand
years in deciding what is Indian. 

kannan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,talk.abortion,alt.sex
From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date:  9 Sep 92 20:34:07 GMT

In <1992Sep06.200900.152442@ua1ix.ua.edu> ngopalas@ho12.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy) writes:

>In article <1992Sep6.174454.14354@news.columbia.edu> rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde) writes:
>As an addendum, what about birth control? It is the right of the sperm to
>fertilize the ovum. Since the sperm and the ovum are also potential life-forms,
>birth control is also immoral. What right do you have to prevent a potential
>life-form from developing? In my opinion, all methods of birth control are
>immoral and insensitive, just take time off for a minute and think how the
>sperm and the ovum must feel. Is there no one to speak for THEIR rights? In the
>same vein, masturbation is also immoral, how can you have the heart to waste
>so many sperm, poor things will be so disappointed at not being given a chance 
>to develop into a life-form. Are you heartless souls out there listening?
>Stop wanking off NOW!
>As for those people who argue that the population must be controlled, 
>there is a secret Govt plan to colonize Mars and Venus. So space ain't any 
>problem. Also this will mean that women will not be able to work outside any
>more, how can they, when they are pregnant all the time, and busy raising the
>twenty three kids properly in a moral and nice atmosphere. Now that ought to
>put a smile on any man's face. So I say Go for it Prolifers! stick it to `em.
>Banning abortions is only the first step in our grand plan!

>Nath.

>Pro-lifer and damn proud of it.

Correction: Nath is a pro-choicer and damn proud of the satire he
has just written.

Peter Ny.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: wcidbo@daedalus.corp.sgi.com (Pratik Jain)
Subject: Re: The Mahashakti Yagna
Keywords: Yagna
Reply-To: pratik@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics I/S
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:33:00 GMT

In article <lafnfrINN4ig@hto-06.usc.edu>, meggert@hto-06.usc.edu (Mark Eggert) writes:
|> 
|>   The Hard Light Meditation Center will present the Mahashakti Yagna -
|> Fire Ceremony for World Peace at the Hindu Temple in Calabasas, CA
|> on October 1-3 1992.
|>   The Mahashakti Yagna is dedicated to The Divine Mother as well as
|> Swami Muktananda Paramahansa on the tenth anniversary of his mahasamadhi.
|>   Eleven Brahmin priests from around the country will perform the ritual.
|>   All are invited. For more information call Hard Light at (213)964-5077
|> or write to Hard Light, 1875 Century Park East, Suite 5273, Los Angeles, CA
|> 90067.


I have a question to the poster:

Is it sheer coincidence that all 11 priests turned out to be Brahmins or is it mandatory ? Just curious..

Pratik Jain
From: rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca (RANGANATHAN A            )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Karnataka fostering racism ?
Keywords: nursery rhymes
Date: 9 Sep 1992 15:15:18 GMT

>In article <1992Sep8.181320.16248@seas.smu.edu> krishna@seas.smu.edu (Sanjay Krishna) writes:
>>
>>
>>  This is from the letters to the editor column of Deccan Herald.     

>> Sir, 
>>     "Chubby cheeks, dimpled chin, 
>>      Rosy lips, teeth within,
>>      Curly hair, very fair 
>>      Eyes are blue, lovely too
>>      Teacher's pet, is that you ? 
>>      Yes, Yes, Yes !" 
>> 
>>Thus goes a nursery rhyme my little daughter is grappling with. I pity 

>Serious discussions/sensible flames welcome ...
>
>>Sanjay 



 I had the above nursery rhyme in my senior nursery or my first grade. So, that means this rhyme has been in existence since 1973-74 in Indian convents.
 The phrases that I found interesting even at that age were the chubby
 cheeks, dimpled chin, rosy lips, curly hair and teacher's pet. 
For a long period after that I had a fixation on dimples, I really longed for
them as a kid.
I was not particularly impressed with blue eyes as I was not sure what they were. But the present generation of 4-5 years old girls would be aware of blue eyes
due to the presence of the BARBIE dolls. 

The blonde BARBIE doll were preferred by young girls and some of the parents
 when it were test marketed in the 4 metros. I forget the magazine that carried this news item. 

Arathi.
From: mazhar@cs.arizona.edu (Mazhar N Mohammed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.arts.poems.urdu
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:23:10 GMT

In article <3001@ucl-cs.uucp>, B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk writes:
> >CREATION of "rec.arts.poems.urdu"
> >
> >Charter:
> >This group will serve the needs of all people within the Indian sub continent
> >that have a interest in the Urdu Language and its rich poetry collections.
> 
> NOoooooooooooo! 
  Yeaaaaaaaaaaaah !!
  
> news groups are proper place to discuss literature. Moreover, Urdu hardly
> has any literature worth separte discussion. To be more objective,

Do you know Urdu ? I wonder ....

> it does not have even 0.0000000000001 percent of literature compared to 
> English, French and Russian to warrant a news group.

So !
Nobody asked people not to have a rec.arts.poems.english
  
> What "rich" poetry collection?. Other than mostly third rate shers  all of
> those *obessively* talking about women and wine again and again and again...
> till they make its reader sick. I would call its so called poetry of mentally 
> retarded neurotic sexophiles who could not see any thing beyond wine and 
> woman. What is there to discuss about such rubbish in a separate news group?

Looks like, the only ghazals you know are those sung by Pankaj Udhas !

  
> Poetry has much wider scope. It must have its style. Other than a single
> "Gazal" style borrowed from Persian what is there in Urdus so called 

Urdu poetry has many other styles, have you heard of 
Nazm, Rubaee, Masnawi, Marsiya ... ?

> Urdu has no impact on any langauge. It has borrowed its grammer and upto 75
> percent vocabulary from Hindi and rest 25 percent from Arabic/Persian and 
> Turkish. Its literture is miniscule and most is third rate cheap expressions 

You make it sound as though it was maliciously borrowed. Urdu emerged as a 
mixture of the above three languages ( Hindi, Pharsi, and a little bit of Arabic). 

> of wanting to see a woman whom mostly muslim poets couldn't see because of 
> traditional Islamic restrictions of keeping women behind doors in full
> body covering clothes or Purdah. 

I don't get it, couldn't the muslim poets see the non muslim women if all
the muslim women were covered up ? Besides, they had wives too !

> Forget it. If you need to discuss the poetry. You can discuss on SCP or SCI.

Oh Yeah !

Mazhar...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mick@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Subject: Profile of Ananth Shankarr
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:08:11 GMT

In a previous article, sankar@caip.rutgers.edu (ananth sankar) said:
:-  lots of boring stuff deleted....

instead we present a concise form of posting profiles as in....

the profile of ananth sankar: pretty jobless.

;-)

- ravi
From: rrbordaw@npac.syr.edu (Rajesh R. Bordawekar)
Subject: Looking for Abhijit Vengsarkar
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center at Syracuse University (NPAC)
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 21:15:17 EDT

hi,

I was looking for Abhijit Vengsarkar from Univ. Of Bombay who joined
Marquette Univ. in Wisc. If anybody knows his email address or email
address of Marquette Univ, please send mail to 
  rrbordaw@npac.syr.edu

thanks 

rajesh


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: Re: Prolific posters of the last fortnight...
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 00:18:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.002728.20699@ennews.eas.asu.edu>  
sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) writes:
> 
> Some people are trying to subvert the prolific poster list knowingly
> or unknowingly by fooling around with names. I have been able to fine
> tune the script as accurately as possible. :-) 

  To check your accuracy, this time I kept a count on the number of postings
I posted in SCI and final tally was 14. Yes, I can prove it. Your program
of evaluating this list, obviously has some flaws. Or you might have
added the names of those who questioned the real purpose of this list,
in your kill file. Anyway, take it easy.

Cheers,
Venkat
--
venkat@jetson.uh.edu                  | If you love something,set it free.
venkat@menudo.uh.edu                  | If it comes back, it is yours.
venkat@uhupvm1.uh.edu                 | If it does not, it never was.
aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu(NeXT mails okay)| 
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From: Tagi@cup.portal.com (Tagi Mordred Nagashiva)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Tamil, Sanskrit and North Indian languages
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 10:53:47 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep14.115213.1@draco.rutgers.edu>

My apologies for posting this here, but I was unable to contact the
originator of this thread directly.


It seems that I do not have the resources which you do regarding the
origin of certain Sanskrit words.  If you would be so kind, I would
appreciate it if you could provide some etymological information on
the following words:

Kali, Thyagi, Thuggee, and Kapalika/Kapalyika.


Thank you for your time.

Thyagi

Please post or email to:   Tagi@Cup.Portal.Com

(or) portal!cup.portal.com!Tagi@Uunet.uu.net

(or) uunet!cup.portal.com!Tagi@Uunet.uu.net
From: waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Fabrikant's Fabrikations
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:42:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.


If any one is interested I've got a compilation of Fabrikant's postings where 
he voiced his dissatisfaction with his dept. If there is sufficient interest
I'll post it here. It is a big article.

regards
waseem
-- 
Waseem A. Siddiqi                                 Tel:    (416) 922 1937 
SCO Canada                                        email: waseems@sco.com 
Toronto, Canada                                        uunet!sco!waseems
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gulati@access.digex.com (Raj K. Gulati)
Subject: Looking for list of temples. Anyone?
Reply-To: gulati@access.digex.com
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 07:20:22 GMT

Hi, I saw some old article headings relating to a list of temples
in the U.S. but my system came up with a "null article" when I
attempted to select the thread.

Has the list been archived at any particular ftp site. Or could
someone either post it again, or send it directly to me at
gulati@access.digex.com.

Thanks.


-- 
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 Washington Street, Rockville, MD 20850, USA. [QK: RAJ@GEIS] 1-(301)-340-5204
  CompuServe: 70323,1430  Internet: gulati@access.digex.com, GEnie: R.GULATI
  *** This message is submitted with no intended representation of G.E. ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kgonsal@eng.clemson.edu (Spooky)
Subject: HELP : Sending portable color TV home.		
Reply-To: kgonsal@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:14:37 GMT

I am planning to buy a portable color TV to send home (INDIA).

I have a few questions :

1.  What type of TV will be compatible to the transmission in INDIA.

2.  What other consideration do I have to take.

3.  Anyone done this before ?

=========================================================================
I'd appreciate if someone can help me.

please mail a copy to my user id.  

kgonsal@eng.clemson.edu

thanks

Ken.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kaji@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Tejas Kaji)
Subject: type tutorial
Originator: kaji@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:13:34 GMT

>hi netters !!

> This time i am looking for a 'typing tutor' program.
> I remember retrieving one some time back from a ftp site but am not
> sure of the place now.
> if anybody has a program please mail me the sorce code & compiling
> directions.
> Any pointers to the ftp site from where i can get it will also be
> highly appreciated.
> Thanx a Zillion.

> tumhara upna :)

> Hariya.

I am interested in such a tutorial too.

Tejas Kaji
-- 
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University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee           or       kaji@convex.csd.uwm.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar)
Subject: Re: TALL...............
Keywords: S..Y
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:59:48 GMT

In article <1513@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> farook@cs.uwindsor.ca (FAROOK A WADIA           ) writes:
>Hey !! My classmate (The only one next to Princess Di !!) didn't get any
>responses.....are there no TALL, DARK and NOT SO HANDSOME INDIANS....
> 

Aw, gee. Now I'm convinced your classmate is a strictly imaginary
entity. Call me clairvoyant, but is her middle name Sonia ??

**sridhar**
From: bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Sikh Leader Commits Suicide; High Turnout in Punjab Vote
Keywords: Sikh Leader Suicide Punjab Vote
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:46:08 GMT

apnews reports:
	   CHANDIGARH, India (AP) _ A top Sikh rebel leader committed
suicide by swallowing a cyanide tablet Monday as police raided his
hideout, which held more than 120 pounds of plastic explosives,
authorities said.
	   The death of Davinder Singh, 30, was the latest blow to the
separatist leadership in Punjab state, where municipal elections
were held Sunday for the first time in 13 years.
	   Police claim to have killed 12 senior commanders of the six
rebel groups in Punjab. Punjab police chief K.P.S. Gill said 121
pounds of plastic explosives and two walkie-talkie sets were found
in the Davinder Singh's house in Uttar Pradesh state, about 50
miles northeast of New Delhi.
	   More than 15,000 people have been killed in the northwestern
farming state since Sikh militants began fighting for independence
10 years ago. Rebels have killed 2,600 people so far this year.
	   The results of Sunday's voting for 1,341 seats in 95 local
assemblies were politically less important than the 60 percent
turnout.
	   The ``people of Punjab have demonstrated their capability to
convert the battle of bullets into the battle of ballots,'' said
Chief Minister Beant Singh.
	   The last local election was held in 1979, and a vote scheduled
in 1985 was canceled because of violence.
	   Beant Singh's government took office in February after a
legislative election _ which was boycotted by many Sikhs and had
only a 21 percent turnout _to replace the federally appointed
emergency government that had ruled Punjab for five years.
	   According to partial results from the Sunday voting, independent
candidates won 767 seats; the governing Congress Party won 398; the
Hindu fundamentalist Indian People's Party won 68, and the Bahujan
Samaj Party, which favors India's lower castes, won three.
	   The results for 105 seats will be declared later.
	   Most independent candidates were supporters of traditional Sikh
religious parties, which did not officially field candidates.
	   In February's legislative elections, about two dozen candidates
were murdered in a campaign by Sikh militants to disrupt the
voting. But the Sikhs raised no objection to the town council
elections held Sunday.
	   About 2.4 million people were eligible to vote in the elections,
which were contested by about 5,400 candidates.
	   Sikhs, a slight majority in Punjab, make up only 2 percent of
India's 844 million people.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
From: <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 11 Sep 1992 05:43:19 EDT
 <18o3amINNfo9@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu><1992Sep11.025446.19348@cis.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center


Actually, the problem here is in letting the Supreme Court (and hence
lawyers) decide so many things.  Dan Quayle has attacked dis-honest
lawyers, but he should realise that honest lawyers are even more of
a menace.  Let me explain.

Suppose I receive two job offers to teach.  What I should compare is the
salary, teaching load, how well the students are motivated, the colleagues
I shall have and the quality of the library.  But if I ask my dentist for
advice, he is bound to ask himself which place has fluoridated water,
since he is concerned about my teeth.  He is not being dishonest, it is
just that he cares deeply about teeth.

The same way with abortion.  Mahatma Gandhi once said, "a solution to any
problem iw wrong if it does not take into account the interests of all
parties involved".  In the abortion controversy we have the interests of the
pregnant woman, the father and the foetus to consider.  All of these
need to be taken seriously for a just solution.  However, the S.C. is bound
to say "is the foetus a person?  If so, then even the use of an IUD may be
murder.  If not, then a woman may take cocaine an hour before delivery and
no `person' is harmed thereby".   The German S.C. took the first alternative
and the US supreme court the other.  But courts cannot decide such questions
justly.  You have to have sensible legislators who will make sensible
laws.  Since legislators are primarily interested in getting re-elected,
and doing favours for their supporters, they cannot do  the job.  So
the job, by default falls on the S.C. which is only too happy to extend
its power.  This trend goes back, in my experience to the Brown vs.
Board of Education decision (1954?), which was wise, but set the stage for
the S.C. to make more and more decisions and for the legislators to step
back and play politics to their heart's content.

Someone has said that the law is an ass.  If we rely too much on it, then the
appelation applies also to us!

Rohit Parikh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sdarbha@ho13.eng.ua.edu (Subrahmanyam Darbha)
Subject: Geeta travels
Originator: sdarbha@ho13.eng.ua.edu
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Julieline: see if this comes up.
Distribution: NA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:02:49 GMT

Recently I enquired for booking a ticket to India through Geeta Pradeep in
Michigan. I was told that they take a deposit of $100 before they can begin
the process of blocking a ticket. 

-- 
*************************** Who else But Darbha ******************************* 
sdarbha@buster.eng.ua.edu     Res: (205) 349 - 5143   Off: (205) 348 - 9289
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: hi
From: jsekhar@uceng.UC.EDU (DR J.A.SEKHAR)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:08:46 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati, Engineering College
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:01:06 EDT
From: <GXA104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: ticket to india

hi!
   i plan to go to india(new delhi) in december.. if any of you know
   of a good deal then i would appreciate if you could let me know..
                                      thanks..
                                              girish ahuja
                                              814-867-8899(res)
                                              814-865-4214(off)
                                              email : GXA104@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Prolific posters of the last fortnight...
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 07:58:10 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: prolific
Summary: prolific
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

Prolific posters..... 
> 32 uds   wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu   Seetamraju Udaybhaskar 
>  26 sdoki          maxine.wpi.edu   Suresh Doki 
>  24 paulchem  tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU   Icarus 
>  22 g9220348          cc.uow.edu.au   adil shaikh 
>  17 Veeramany.Sthanumurthy	         bbs.oit.unc.edu  
Veeramany Sthanumurthy 
>  14 manu  tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU   K. S. Manu 
>  14 fafat                 usc.edu   Vijay Fafat 
>  14 J.Ainikkal            massey.ac.nz   J. Ainikkal 

>)An index of topics discussed would be more useful. 
> 
 
*|or better still a change in the title of this list to something
*|like: 
 
*|Prolific Jesters of the Past Week 

Ha - Just 'cause U did not make it to the 'top ten'.

Which reminds me of these lyrics that I think is appropriate.

"And I went down to the demonstration,
to get my fair share of abuse,..
.........
... But U can't always get what U want"
                                    R. Stones

 
|-harsh deshmane 

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
I did post that earlier - but it got lost |(
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign ( Undivided Bharat)
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:39:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep07.204524.23481@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:
>
> We should first think of bringing back of Pakistan. EVEN THE ISSUE OF 
> DIVISION OF BHARAT should be brought . Divsion of this country, 
> is not to be left to some individuals and to their whims and fancies. Let 
> the nation have a say in this matter. Once this question arises, then the 
> basic problems of Punjab and Kashmir will be solved. 

If the indian govt has such attitudes (i.e., if the leadership has
such ideas), then festering problems of india will get worse.  
It wouldnt be surprising if more problem-points opened up.
The implications of the concept of AKHANDA is quite fear-inducing in the minds of
people in a few parts of india.


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mgnvp@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Niranjan V. Punuru)
Subject: Request to archive baby names.
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:00:18 GMT

It would be helpfull to many people (like my friend who became a father
this week) to find a name for the newly born kid if the baby names list
is archived.