From: btiffany@pbs.org
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Re: Missionizing to 2-year-olds (was Re: knowing HaShem)
Date: 12 Aug 92 11:39:29 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA


     ** Submitted for Bruce Benning by Bruce Tiffany **
     --------------------------------------------------

>Subject: Re: Missionizing to 2-year-olds

>From: strom@watson.ibm.com (Rob Strom)
>In article <1992Aug5.082742.16732@pbs.org>, btiffany@pbs.org writes:
>|> From: strom@watson.ibm.com (Rob Strom)
>|>
>|> >My youngest child is not allowed to ever be alone
>|> >with her aunt and uncle because my when my older
>|> >children were 4 and 2 they were at a beach resort
>|> >with my wife's brother and sister and their
>|> >spouses, and during a *one hour* period of
>|> >walking and swimming in the ocean they were told
>|> >that they would burn if they didn't believe in
>|> >Jesus.  My son, who was having trouble swimming,
>|> >was told that he was sinking in the water because
>|> >he didn't believe.
>|>
>|> I'm sorry, but this is simply more than I can believe.  It is just not
>|> believable.  Maybe you believe it, since you're so paranoid about the whole
>|> situation, but I don't believe anybody said such a thing.
>|>

  Rob and others,

  Perhaps it is because I live in Cleveland <grin>, or perhaps it is
  because of the road my Lord has me traveling. Whatever the reason is
  I must yield to what Rom Strom has sited as true, though uncommon.

  Even my brother-in-law, while under the authority of a shepherd who
  was a wolf in sheeps clothing, told his parents that if they didn't
  believe in Yeshua, they could no longer participate in his life.
  It took time and prayer, but he saw the evil of this attitude. He
  is now under a godly shepherd, and has a deep and well meaning
  relationship with his parents.

  I have encountered some VERY_WELL_MEANING brothers and sisters who
  in their zeal have done some rather questionable activity. What Rob
  reports I can believe. Though we are new creations in Messiah Yeshua,
  we are not perfect. We still do make mistakes.

   Though I will share my faith with anyone willing to listen, even 2
   year-olds, I believe it is not necessary to scare children into the
   Kingdom of God. I'll even go as far as to say it is ungodly to do so.

   If I knew your family members, Rob, who did what you report, and they
   concurred with your testimony I would advise them to repent, and to
   offer you the full compensation you require (and your children). This
   was the action I took with my brother-in-law. Jesus said let the little
   children come to me. He didn't say "Scare them my way!"  I beleive this
   is the root of this thread. Not, "did it" happen but, is it a practice
   accepted by the body of Messiah.


  Let us please move on from this thread.


      Bruce Benning __________ benning@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com

        -------------Religion may inform and reform-------------
        ----------but only Messiah Jesus can Transform----------

   >  For it is God's will that by doing good you should silence the
   >  ignorant talk of foolish men. Live as free men, but do not use
   >  your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God.
   >  Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of
   >  believers, fear God, honor the king. -1 Peter 2:15-17
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