HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Command-line RNEWS / TRUNCATED BATCH
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 06:43:18 CDT
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

| I'm trying to use rnews from a .bat file to feed some articles into my
| news hierarchies. Ran into the TRUNCATED BATCH problem that was
| discussed a while back on here.

| When I use "rnews < filename" it works fine, no error messages, and the
| article stays intact. But that doesn't accomplish what I need to do.

That's interesting.  I never tried that....

| Using "rnews c:\waffle\temp\*.*" on individual articles, I get truncated
| batches on every article. The expected size matches the file size
| reported by DOS's DIR command, but I assume the actually number of bytes
| found by rnews is different because of the way DOS allocates disk space
| in blocks. Each article had a few extra bytes added to the end, some
| leftover data from a buffer that made up for the difference in expected
| and actual bytes I would think.

No, this is because rnews appears to be reading CRLF pairs as LF only --
so each CRLF pair is counted as ONE character instead of two.  When the
"check" comes up for the number of characters, it sees that it came
up short (by the number of CRLF pairs).

| Is there a way to process articles this way without getting truncated
| batches and extra bytes on the end of articles?

Yes.  Use LF-terminated lines, not CRLF.  :-(


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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: UUCICO is confused.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 00:27:04 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus) writes:

> roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
> 
> > in UUSHELL.BAT.  So how come UUCICO is seeing 19200?  I've kluged a
> > solution with 'uucico -b2400 -r0', but I'd rather have this work as the
> > manual specifies.
> 
> I dunno, but my uucico says 600 bps over here.. Locking at 19200 with X00.
> 
> Relax... it works, right?  ;-)

Unfortunately, it doesn't!  If it were simply a matter of strange
reports, I'd just put up with it.  But, in my case, UUCICO really thinks
the incoming connection is at 19200, and no traffic is passed.  It
appears that UUCICO is resetting my UART to 19200, as the other site
sees _nothing_ coming from my site.
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From: a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: sig length in waffle
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 15:22:40 EDT
Organization: .sdrawkcaB sgnihT gnipyT roF yteicoS ehT

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:

> [we should probably stop this now before we get to "IIIIIIImanuel Kant
> was..."]

...a real pissant who was very rarely stable...

(Sorry, couldn't resist...  :-)

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From: chris@surfcty.com (Chris Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: UGATE
Keywords: UGATE, MHS, Waffle
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 19:44:49 PDT
Distribution: WORLD
Organization: Surf City Software, Orange, Calfornia - DUDE!

Has anyone found out where UGATE (or UUGATE?) is hiding?
I understand that it will allow Novell MHS go to UUCP,
ultimately to waffle (and with some magic, to ccMail).

Any help would be appreciated.

Chris
From: vince_m@wacss.anixter.uucp (Vince Mammoliti)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Gateway from waffle mail to Novel mail ?
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 16:58:57 EDT
Organization: Anixter Canada Inc.

Is there a gateway to allow me to intergrate my novel mail and my
waffle mail.  I have some information on a Pmail. Which is nice except
I require a dedicated server and I am not quite sure how to get an SMTP
server running on one of my system.

Any suggestion would be great.

Thanks

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From: jbla@giraffe.in-berlin.de (Johannes Blankenstein)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: News readers for Waffle.
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 19:22:06 MES
Distribution: world               
Organization: Private MS-DOS Site

patrick@actrix.gen.nz (Pat Cain) writes:
>
> In article <JsBTqB2w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca writes:
> > I was just wondering, has anyone thrown in a drop-in replacement for news 
> > reading in the DOS version of Waffle?
> 
> I've been working on a newsreader for DOS Waffle use.  The main aim
> was to make it user friendly because users here seem to dislike the
> Waffle newsreaders.  
> 
> There is a good newsreader from Waffle - the NWM (?) one, but that's
> about 300k and defintely won't work remotely.  My aim is to keep the
> executable small so that it can run remotely when waffle.exe is loaded.

Do you think of NWREADER.EXE (NN???.ZOO) ? I've managed it to use it
remotely by using the two programms SHROOM and DOORWAY. There was a
user of NWREADER who had to run it remotely. If you use these two
programms it is possible to run NWREADER.EXE via a modem.

> It has the same user interface as the Searchlight BBS message reader except
> it has a few other non Searchlight things:
> 
>  - an interactive article select (like ANU news under VMS, or xrn under X)
>  - ^N/^P for next/prev same-subject article
>  - group specific and global kill files (author or subject only though)
>  - ability to list or jump to any newsgroup
> 
> The executable is currently around 38k.  But due to lack of time, I doubt
> if it'll be finished til at least early next year.

        Hannes

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From: mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us (mike batchelor)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problems with Rockwell-equipped modems
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:27:02 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
>
> bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:
> > It sounds as though modems with this Rockwell chipset should be avoided.  Is 
> > there an easy way to positively ascertain that a given modem doesn't have it 
> > (unless the manufacturer happens to state on the box that the modem has some 
> > other chipset)?
> 
> Pretty much EVERY low cost v.32bis modem on the market uses the Rockwell
> chipset. Rockwell is the number 1 manufacturer of modem chipsets.

These are the modems I know of that do not use the Rockwell chipset:

US Robotics Courier and Sportster V.32bis
Digicom Scout+ and 9642LE+
Telebit T-whatever (but you knew that already)
Practical Peripherals
Hayes
Intel 14.4EX



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[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.ca.us
[] Long Beach, California
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Command-line RNEWS / TRUNCATED BATCH
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 01:49:06 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

I'm trying to use rnews from a .bat file to feed some articles into my
news hierarchies. Ran into the TRUNCATED BATCH problem that was
discussed a while back on here.

When I use "rnews < filename" it works fine, no error messages, and the
article stays intact. But that doesn't accomplish what I need to do.

Using "rnews c:\waffle\temp\*.*" on individual articles, I get truncated
batches on every article. The expected size matches the file size
reported by DOS's DIR command, but I assume the actually number of bytes
found by rnews is different because of the way DOS allocates disk space
in blocks. Each article had a few extra bytes added to the end, some
leftover data from a buffer that made up for the difference in expected
and actual bytes I would think.

Also, I tried "rnews c:\waffle\temp\*.*" on a .zip file containing some
articles. Once I put unzip.exe in my \waffle\bin directory, I got the
same truncated batch results. In addition, the first article did not get
processed and rnews kicked out a "FILE NOT FOUND : BATCH" error, or
something like that. Does rnews expect to see something called 'batch'
after it decompresses any compressed file?

Is there a way to process articles this way without getting truncated
batches and extra bytes on the end of articles?

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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: replies going to wrong address, vms list
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:57:06 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg) writes:

> The reason this happens is that VMS improperly adds a space to the
> beginning of the subject line.  Waffle, and most likely other mail
> readers check for the Re:, and the space messes this up.  My fault, and
> it was fixed quite some time ago.  I can't remember if version 1.22 does
> this, but rest assured the next version won't.

Well, I'm using version 1.22, so yeah, it does it :)


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From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: shroom
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 08:44:01 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

bo836@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard D. Mccombs) writes:
> > Who has the latest version either via anon-uucp @ 2400 bps  or
> > via  a mailserver.
> 
> I found out that have version 1.6 but if there is a later version then I
> probably should get it.

I have version 1.8j. You can request it from ftpmail@micromed.com with the
command:

/GET shrom18j.zip uue



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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: "orphan" folder
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 21:22:44 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

I just noticed a bounced email message, and tried to go into
the "orphan" folder via SYSMAIL to look at it. There was no
new mail, so I got the "To:" prompt. Exited, and tried SYSMAIL *
to get a list of folders. I got a list of my OWN folders, not
system's folders. Is there something I am overlooking here?


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "orphan" folder
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 18:26:25 Y
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS
Keywords: second
Summary: me too!

markr@sound.cts.com (Mark B. Reinhold) writes:

> mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:
> > I use a bat file (called sysadmin.bat) that does amoung other
> > things, looks for various abnormal files.  If it finds
> > 
> > Another bat file runs once weekly and send me stats on the sytem,
> > free space, diskhog, etc.  It's nice to have the system generate
> 
> Well, mike this the long way around, but I would sure like to
> see those batch files, and start making this ole network do some
> of the work.

Seconded!!!
How about posting your sysadmin.bat so we can all have a gander at it??



dogbowl at The Dawghaus BBS  ( +64 6 357-9245 )
From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Shroom and Waffle
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 19:07:31 CDT
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

Now that I have Shroom, I have a question (or two)!

What good is it REALLY?  Will it disconnect my communications links to the
modem for the duration of the command that was "shroomed"?

I have mine set to shell out RMAIL.EXE, VI.EXE (local Oak Hill vi editor),
and 4DOS.COM (standard shell).  I tried RNEWS.EXE but it gave me a usage
display instead - I suspect redirection to be at fault (what else could it
be?)  I haven't tested that theory...

If you're using "SHROOM WAFFLE....." what are your parameters?  Or how
are you using Shroom?


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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Multiple addresses
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:07:08 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:
> 
> > Waffle will send ONE mail message on to your smarthost for mail to
> > multiple addresses.  It's then up to the smarthost to break it down
>
> Huh?  I believe mine still creates multiple spool copies.  Is there some 
> sort of static option one must set to pass only one message instead?

Steve, Ralph, and the rest of the world:

          This is what I was talking about. When as human mails to a
multi-address alias, Waffle generates one copy PER PERSON. When "UUCP"
does it, it generates one copy per *MANY* (3 or more) addresses. This is
because RMAIL supports multiple addresses, WAFFLE does not. This, at
least, is the indication I have gotten.

                              Jeff

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From: knox@tmk.mlb.fl.us (Tom Knox)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: uucico problem
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 19:24:14 EDT
Organization: Tom's House BBS

I have a problem with uucico v1.65.  I remember hearing other people
having this problem long ago but wasn't paying attention to the fix
at that time.  The problem:  I have three systems I poll daily and
normally pick them all up with a "uucico -s any", but what happens
is the first entry in my systems file gets called, transfers files
and hangs up but my modem (T2500) doesn't reset fast enough to get
the second entry, I get a NO DIALTONE failure.  Then uucico goes ahead
and calls the third entry.

For now I just have a second "uucico -s any" to pick up the lost
call but I suspect there may be a simple way to fix this instead.
Two parameters, uu.between and uu.retrytime seem close but both
appear to only apply to failures, not successfull calls.  In any
case I'm not getting anything like 10 seconds between tries.

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From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Vacation program
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 11:39:23 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

> Ah. So when vacation.exe calls RMAIL, the environment gets lost?

Actually, the environment was lost earlier than that, but I wasn't able
to nail down the exact deed.

> Did you find any obvious differences between your set up and your
> beta tester's that might contribute to that happening?

I didn't.  His setup is very ordinary.  It's interesting that it should
show up somewhere else.
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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: rn question
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 13:24:29 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:

> Is there any way to go back into rn and RE-read old messages?
> 
> Right now, I keep having to revert to "read" (ugh!) to read old messages -
> I know there is a "/fast" or some-such option which is causing rn to skip
> groups with read messages, but I don't relish the thought of going through
> my 20 or so newsgroups (some of which are VERY quiet) every time I want to
> read.
> 
> I tried "rn <group>" but that didn't do it.
> 
> The reason for all this is because I might read all the messages, then
> want (later) to reply to one of them.  A new post is no prob; "post <group>"
> does the job.

How about using 'w' from within RN to save a message you want to
reply to later? The only other thing I can think of is to go in
and edit your join file for the newsgroup(s) you want to re-read.


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From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Can't use SIMTEL, HELP!!
Keywords: simtel
Date: 5 Sep 92 23:54:26 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

marki@well.sf.ca.us (Mark L. Isikoff) writes:

> 
> Hi all,
> 
> I have this problem I can't figure out...
> 
> Everytime I send mail (no Subject, only "help" in body) to the 
> SIMTEL server at listserv@vm1.nodak.edu I get informed I've got 
> a problem with the "From:" line in the mailheader.
> I get this mail in return (see further down)
> 
> Now, I did get the "help" I requested at the end of this bounced
> mess but I want to request files from SIMTEL and don't want them
> bouncing all around.
> 
> Here is a portion of my static file 
> 
> node         : preimg%tct.UUCP
> alias        : preimg.UUCP
> uucpname     : preimg
> 
> Is there something wrong here?

Yes. the percent hack is a kludge, and isn't recognized by some mailers.
Note the line in their message:

> > Unable to deliver mail to some/all recipients.
> > 050 RCPT TO:<@UUNET.UU.NET:ms@PREIMG%TCT.UUCP>
> > 501 Syntax Error. Unexpected Token '%'

You can cure this easily by registering your node in a domain. The best
solution is likely to be the US Domain, it's easy to register, and it's
free. (Can't beat that!)

This will give you a valid address with your nearest internet-host 
keeping an MX record for you. Contact your feed site, and see if they
are directly connected to internet. If so, ask them to help you.

For information on the US Domain, send email to domain-request@isi.edu.
They will send you back all the info you need, along with a questionaire
to fill out and return. (When you do, you'll be registered).

Then you can drop this % crap which is being tolerated by fewer sites
all the time. Remember --UUCP is a pseudo domain. There is nothing
that requires sites to honor it.


--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Problems with Rockwell-equipped modems
From: bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 10:36:09 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: 1776 Enterprises, Sudbury MA
Comments: The word is DEPRESSION, not "recession" or "recovery".

Recently a disgruntled purchaser of a 14.4Kbps Boca modem wrote as follows:
> I am open to suggestions about what I can do to make this thing work 
> better.  I am kind of disappointed [in the modem's throughput] so far.  
> I also have some problem with the modem not resetting after a normal BYE.  

To which Duane Davis <System@Micromed.COM> responded:
> You've run into a known problem with the Rockwell v.32bis chipset. The Boca
> isn't the only one that has problems. Supra, Practical Peripherals, and
> several others also use the same chipset. 
>
> The main problem is that it cannot handle noisy lines at all (or so Supra
> says). They are supposed to be coming out with an updated ROM to patch the
> problem in the chipset. ... A friend of mine has ... spoken to Boca tech 
> support and they know about the problem but have no plans for a fix.

It sounds as though modems with this Rockwell chipset should be avoided.  Is 
there an easy way to positively ascertain that a given modem doesn't have it 
(unless the manufacturer happens to state on the box that the modem has some 
other chipset)?

   ___            _                                           -  Bob
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(_/__) (_)_(_)  (___(_)_(/_______________________________________ bob@1776.COM
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From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Aliases question
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 11:02:27 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

If I have something similar to

holmes     arthur!conan!doyle

in my aliases file and I send a message to

holmes!sherlock

shouldn't waffle expand that to

arthur!conan!doyle!sherlock

?

steve

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From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: easy way to send uuencoded files
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 00:54:53 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic  - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access


I've developed a small utility to simplify sending files through mail.

Once installed as an external program, all you need to do is use the
command:

         uuencode {filename}

It will prompt for the address to send to and automatically uuencode
and mail the specified file. 

Those interested in this utility can send mail to FTPMail@micromed.com
with the text: 

/GET wafsnd10.zip uue

or you can call directly (408 279-5240) and download it under
\files\waffle\wafsnd10.zip.



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