From: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Ann Stalnaker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: New Born Deafie
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:24:26 GMT
Reply-To: Ann.Stalnaker@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24888

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 TB> Gosh, sorry, didn't mean to offend you.  I've read, "heard" and used
 TB> the term in SF Bay area for a couple years now.  I agree, some folk
 TB> do think "hearies & deafies" sets things up like "us vs them" but
 TB> it's just been a newspaper-note abbreviation.  English is the
 TB> culprit (as usual)...."deaf" being an adjective and "hear" being
 TB> a verb.   I was also limited by Wildcat! subject line length.

Oh, you didn't offend me, I just gave you my opionion.  The above
statement from you is exactly WHY there are so many groups.  What
the Deaf Culturists don't realize is that as long as they try to
isolate themselves into separate groups, the harder it is for
ALL of us to work together.  It doesn't matter if one is deaf/
Deaf/HoH, we all share a common bond.

 TB> From what I've seen of modern American's, any parent should go
 TB> for counseling/training/support.  "Murphy Brown" may be fiction
 TB> but it has some basis in reality.

I am not sure I agree with you - getting involved with support groups
is great but I don't always see the point of counseling.

 TB> These parents are sensible, but this is novel territory for them and
 TB> their duaghter's sibs.

I imagine it is true but parents shouldn't always go by what others
say - the best education is to get involved with support groups
as well as check out research material but at the same time, do what
they think is best for their child, not what someone else tells them
is best.

 TB> This strikes me as the same main-streaming (or oralism) that I got
 TB> caught in.  It also sounds like some of the "war" that's going on
 TB> this year about the colear (sp?) implant for children.

What is wrong with mainstreaming?  In the long run, mainstreaming
is really the best route to go.  Also, with cochlear implants for
children - I think this is a great opportunity to help the future
generation of deaf/HoH children.  Granted, they don't work for
everyone but who knows, with all of the new technology improving
daily, what benefits deaf/HoH children might gain from the cochlear
implants?  No one should deny the children this chance to try
them out if they are eligible for them.

 TB> I've heard both sides.  I haven't made up my mind. And I _DON'T_ want
 TB> this to flame out of hand and have the moderator slap my typing
 TB> wrists.

As the moderator, I think you are having a little trouble differentiating
my messages.  I'm not posting as a moderator - I'm posting as ME on
a personal level.  I do not slap others for having a different
viewpoint from mine - I just have problems with one who posts such
negative messages and consistently keeps others riled.  To date, there
has only been one person who did that and he chose to leave this
echo.  He never could figure out what he was doing and ignored any
helpful tips from others.

We all are here to have fun, share information, our life experiences
and well as make new friends.

I'll be sharing with you some more information with you later on.
Stay tuned until 11 for the latest!  (grin)

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