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From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: VAX 11/750 and InfoServer 100
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:06:04 PST
Organization: Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego, CA

In article <15DEC199211021097@loyola.edu>, cmelaro@loyola.edu (Chris Melaro) writes:
> 	We have just recently recieved a 11/750 with no documentation.  I would
> like to be able to boot it from our InfoServer in order to upgrade to a newer
> version of VMS.
> 
> 	I know that on our VAX 6310, we are able to do this with a command
> similar to:
> 		BOOT/XMI:A/R5:E0000100 EXA0
> 
> 	If anyone out there knows how to do the equivalent on a 11/750, or has any
> advice, it would be greatly appreciated.

Sorry, no can do.  You can boot it from a disk on an HSC (connected via CI
adapter), or from a local disk.  But the boot ROMs in the 750 (and the 730 and
780 as well) do not know how to boot from an Ethernet controller. 

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
drivers, internals, networks, applications, and training for VMS and Windows-NT
uucp 'g' protocol guru and release coordinator, VMSnet (DECUS uucp) W.G., and 
Chair, Programming and Internals Working Group, U.S. DECUS VMS Systems SIG 
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
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From: gezelter@rlgsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Logicals
Date: 18 Dec 92 01:29:54 EST
Organization: Robert Gezelter Software Consultant, Flushing, NY

In article <1992Dec17.122619.14@condor>, cfstmpab@logica.co.uk writes:
> Could you tell me, is there a call/or approach to obtain the
> text of a logical, a sort of 'lib$get_logical'?
> 
> Also we had a problem where we couldn't delete a logical from 
> the group table at DCL but on a simple system service call, it
> was cleared. 
> 
> Andrew Buckle 
-- 
Andrew,
 
The exact services that you are requesting are provided by the 
library routines/system services:
 
        SYS$TRNLNM           Translate Logical Name (get value)
        LIB$DELETE_LOGICAL   Delete Logical Name
        LIB$SET_LOGICAL      Assign value to Logical Name
 
These routines are full described in the online HELP text as well 
as in TFMs. I refer all readers to the grey wall and their 
screens for the gory details.
 
I hope that the above information is helpful. If I can be of 
further assistance, please send me an Email.
 
- Bob
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.dec:6434 comp.unix.admin:6600
From: lhb@isds.duke.edu (Leslie H. Boyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.admin
Subject: HP 7475A plotter
Keywords: plotter
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:53:03 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Hello:

   Soon I will be attempting to attach a 7475A HP plotter      
   to a DS5000/200. The operating system is ULTRIX 4.2.

   We will be using S Plus to generate plots in HPGL format.

   Problem:
      I do not have any documentation for this plotter.

      Would like to purchase a manual.

      Also, would like a printcap entry for this animal.

   As usual, thanks in advance.
From: burt@carr (Burton Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Problem w/ a DECstation 5000/125
Summary: Yellow letters during boot.
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:08:36 GMT
Followup-To: burt@passaic.miami.edu
Organization: University if Miami

Hi, and thanks for helping... here's my problem.

I have a Decstation 5000/125 w/ a PXG card and a 19" Triny monitor.
(This was a package deal a.k.a. PM323-KN.) Boy is it ever fun! Then
I bought the PMAG-GB "8 to 24 plane upgrade", because I wanted 24-bit
color.

I installed the upgrade and funny colors began to tinge the right edges
of letters. Most dramatic is the "]" character while in 
the hardware monitor. Its vertical stroke is bright yellow.
This mottled yellowness is also present in single-user-mode 
but, thankfully, disappears once X is up and running. For example, there
is no problem in the DECterm window I am typing at now.

I run Ultrix 4.2A Rev 47, UWS Rev 420. The upgrade was a bunch of SIP's,
VRAM I imagine, and two so-called VDACS. (They were big! They must have
more than just a DAC inside.)   

Thanks. Respond by email to burt@passaic.miami.edu.
-burt rosenberg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.sys.dec.micro
From: beyer@utrtsc.dec.com (Peter Beyer)
Subject: Re: Cannot open Console on DecStation 5000/200
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:59:09 GMT

>In article <1992Dec10.205008.26046@ee.gatech.edu>, dao@blackbird.uucp (Dozier DaO) writes:
>> 
>> We have three DecStation 5000/200 in our group and all of them have a
>> common problem:
>> 
>> We cannot open a console window in any of the window managers that we
>> are using (tvtwm, twm, x, olwm, olvwm) and whenever some error message
>> is sent to the console, it is simply dumped onto the bitplanes.
> 

To enable a console window one needs to have pseudo-device xcons configured
in the systems configuration file.


Peter Beyer 
Windows, Graphics & Multimedia
Digital Equipment b.v.
beyer@utrtsc.enet.dec.com
beyer@athena.uto.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: sa@ais.org (Scott Almburg)
Subject: Re: VAX 11/750 and InfoServer 100
Organization: UMCC
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:48:27 GMT

If I remeber correctly, to remote boot a 750 depends on what type of
ehternet controller you have installed.  I don't  think a DENUNA can
remote boot on a 750, if that is the controller you have.  Other
UNIBUS  ethernet controllers may be able to.

Scott Almburg
From: leonard@telcom.arizona.edu (Aaron Leonard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Synch port for VS4000/90?
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:31:14 GMT
Reply-To: Leonard@Arizona.EDU
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Telecommunications

Does the VAXstation 4000/90 support a synchronous serial
port?  All we need is one 9.6Kbps RS232 synch port, such as 
the MicroVAX 3100/90 supports, I believe.

Thanks in advance,

Aaron

Aaron Leonard (AL104), <Leonard@Arizona.EDU>
University of Arizona Network Operations, Tucson AZ 85721
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: VAX BSD final answer...
Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:17:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.041235.4661@panix.com>, tls@panix.com (Thor Lancelot
Simon) writes:

|>In article <Byx3D5.326@dscomsa.desy.de> Hallam@zeus02.desy.de writes:
|>>In article <DGRAY.92Dec2000244@menudo.uh.edu>, dgray@menudo.uh.edu (Dennis
|>Gray
|>>Jr.) writes:
|>>
|>>|>It doesn't look like there is a free unix for the vax.  That's too
|>>|>bad, since there really isn't a really good OS for the vax anywhere.
|>>
|>>Except of course for VMS which did a decade ago all the things that UNIX has
|>>only just started to.
|>
|>Except of course for VMS, which was as slow and ungainly a decade ago as UNIX
|>has only just started to become.
|>
|>(Now if there were only a TOPS-20 or ITS port for the vax...)

Problem with O/Ss is that in order to solve everyone's needs they need a lot of
functionality. UNIX got by by offering a very limited amount of functionality
which was exactly what a hacker running simple single user tasks with a minimnum
of complex file handling requirements.

In the 70's everyone realized that to make databases run fast you had to put
sophisticated data structures onto the disk and handle them in the I/O subsystem
rather than the processor. Nowadays suggesting such systems receives hosts of
flames from the people who have accepted the sequential file structures only
line.

Yep by all means lets replace VMS with something better. But for heavens sake
lets not let UNIX win. If UNIX became the only O/S standard we would never get
anything better.



--

Phill Hallam-Baker
From: imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: DEC workstation user feedback
Date: 14 Dec 92 06:48:01 -0500
Distribution: world

In article <11173347@zl2tnm.gen.nz>, don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
> The VT100 keycodes are something of a de facto standard.  These (usually)
> start with an ESC and follow the ANSI sequences.

Not only that, most of them are a de jure standard:  ANSI X3.64, as I recall.

> Death to the bare ESC, once and for all!

Amen!
-- 
Mark H. Wood, Lead Analyst/Programmer    +1 317 274 0749   [@disclaimer@]
Internet:  IMHW400@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU     BITNET:  IMHW400@INDYVAX
Celebrate freedom:  read a banned newsgroup.
From: flowers@memstvx1.memst.edu (Harry Flowers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Need help with MV2000
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:31:07 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <12DEC199223041425@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com
 (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
> In article <1992Dec12.210756.993@dragon.com>, cts@dragon.com
> (Charles T. Smith, Jr.) writes...
> #I recently inherited a MicroVAX 2000...  any documentation is long gone.
> #This beastie has a thinwire port;  however, it does not appear to be 
> #enabled.  VMS boots ok;  the only devices are the disk and the terminal
> #ports.
> # 
> #Can anyone give me any hints on what it takes to enable the Ethernet
> #port?  Which test F...E...D, etc, indicates the Ethernet, or how
> #to read the TEST 50 output?
> 
> The MicroVAX 2000 has a thinwire ethernet port which is enabled and
> cannot be disabled.  It test as TEST 1.  If your boot shows:
> F...E...D... 1... then your ethernet is ok.  If 1 shows as ? or _
> then you've got an error.  Type   >>> TEST 1 and see what you get.
> The errors generaly mean (0000.7001 or some such) that you didn't
> hook it up to an active dempr port or thinwire network correectly.

You should also know that, though all MicroVAX 2000's had an external
thinwire interface, the base model did not include the actual ethernet
interface.  You might want to open it up and see if it's attached (the
box isn't very easy to open and harder to close, though).
--
Harry Flowers                           Internet: FLOWERS@MEMSTVX1.MEMST.EDU
Memphis State University                & Bitnet: FLOWERS@MEMSTVX1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: jg@crl.dec.com (Jim Gettys)
Subject: Re: X11R5 server for the HX graphics controller?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Cambridge Research Lab
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:17:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.173444.22923@coe.montana.edu>, osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen) writes:
> In article <MCGRANT.92Dec17172132@rascals.stanford.edu> mcgrant@rascals.stanford.edu (Michael C. Grant) writes:
> >
> >How much longer am I going to have to wait for Xws to handle 
> >the HX graphics card?
> 
> From my experience, Ultrix 4.2,4.2a, 4.2C, and now 4.3, Xws has handled
> my dual HX card workstation with 0 problems from the start...
> 
> So I would assume your wait has been over for some time.
> -- 

Slight error; 4.2A and after have HX support; bare 4.2 does not, as memory serves.
			- Jim
From: smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Logicals
Date: 17 Dec 1992 15:12:16 GMT
Organization: SunConnect
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.france.sun.com

In article <1992Dec17.122619.14@condor>, cfstmpab@logica.co.uk writes:
> Could you tell me, is there a call/or approach to obtain the
> text of a logical, a sort of 'lib$get_logical'?

LIB$SYS_TRNLNM()

Its a LIB$ interface to the sys$trnlnm 'translate logical name' service

Steve



-- 
Steve McKinty
SUN Microsystems ICNC
38240 Meylan, France
email: smckinty@france.sun.com	   BIX: smckinty
From: CIR_TLW@VAX1.UTULSA.EDU (Tristia Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Problem, need ideas...
Date: 15 Dec 1992 11:19:09 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Greetings!

We have a problem that has exhausted our local resources, any ideas from
the Internet community would be greatly appreciated!  We have a 386 Clone
that was configured to load DEC Pathworks and then launch Microsoft Windows
3.0.  The person who was on the computer was trying to clean up the PC by
using the File Manager. While moving some files, the PC locked up.  She
rebooted the machine.  When the machine came back up, the Pathworks
software was loaded and Windows was called.  The Windows banner page came
up and then a DOS prompt showed up in the upper left-hand corner of the
screen.

We have reinstalled Windows, copied all INI files from another machine to
this one with the same result.


Ideas/Suggestions/Comments/HELP!

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From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.misc,comp.org.decus
Subject: Re: Need help with MV2000
Date: 13 Dec 92 06:04:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Followup-To: comp.sys.dec
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Dec12.210756.993@dragon.com>, cts@dragon.com (Charles T. Smith, Jr.) writes...
#I recently inherited a MicroVAX 2000...  any documentation is long gone.
#This beastie has a thinwire port;  however, it does not appear to be 
#enabled.  VMS boots ok;  the only devices are the disk and the terminal
#ports.
# 
#Can anyone give me any hints on what it takes to enable the Ethernet
#port?  Which test F...E...D, etc, indicates the Ethernet, or how
#to read the TEST 50 output?

The MicroVAX 2000 has a thinwire ethernet port which is enabled and
cannot be disabled.  It test as TEST 1.  If your boot shows:
F...E...D... 1... then your ethernet is ok.  If 1 shows as ? or _
then you've got an error.  Type   >>> TEST 1 and see what you get.
The errors generaly mean (0000.7001 or some such) that you didn't
hook it up to an active dempr port or thinwire network correectly.

#  Charles Smith
#  cts@dragon.com

Ehud

--
Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
gavron@vesta.sunquest.com
It's OKAY --- I'm an INTELLECTUAL, too.
From: sbpress@csws20 (The Stony Brook Press)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: info on notes
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:24:42 GMT
Reply-To: sbpress@ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: The State University of New York at Stony Brook
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Is there information, in electronic form or regular form, on dec's
notes system?

Thanks
Daniel Glasner

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.dec:6473 comp.os.vms:19234
From: joltes@husc10.harvard.edu (Richard Joltes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.os.vms
Subject: Weird DZQ11 behaviour
Keywords: VMS, modem, %TTY-F-NOMORHAIR, insufficient follicular resources
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:54:52 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

I'm having a problem with a DZQ11 interface on my home VAX II and would like
to know if anyone has an idea about it...

Config:  VAXstation II in BA123 worldbox, KA630 CPU, 16MB memory
	 DEQNA, ESDI disk controller, TK50, VCB01 graphics card, DZQ11

Version: VAX/VMS 5.3
	 DECwindows (haven't tried VWS)

Problem: using a modem off any port on the DZQ, I get dropped characters (even
	 if I ALLOCATE the port before connecting to it), and eventually the
	 display halts -- I still get characters passed through the modem, and
	 I can see TD and RD when I type commands, but nothing is displayed
	 onscreen.  Once this condition occurs it can only be cleared by a
	 reboot.  Each port exhibits this behaviour, and killing one port does
	 NOT kill the others.  SET TERM commands do nothing to clear the error.
	 No errors appear on a SHOW ERROR command.

Attempts:
	-tried SET TERM
	-occurs when using SET HOST/DTE or C-Kermit
	-tried reloading TTDRIVER (it's not unloadable)
	-tried ALLOCATing the port before using it.  No effect.
	-occurs on both a Zoom v.42bis 9.6k brand-new modem and on an old DEC
	 Scholar 2400 v.22bis.
	-checked CONFIGURE to make sure CSR and Vectors were okay (they are).
	-ran MDM DZQ11 test, passed...

Status:  Nearly out of hair

Any insights would be appreciated, as would a bottle of Witch Hazel (or maybe
some Monoxodil).

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dick Joltes						joltes@husc.harvard.edu
Hardware & Networking Manager, Computer Services 	joltes@husc.bitnet 
Harvard University Science Center

"Mind you, not as bad as the night Archie Pettigrew ate some
sheep's testicles for a bet...God, that bloody sheep kicked him..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: cslee@pds.nchu.edu.tw (Lee Chee Siong)
Subject: Wanted: print file from Ultrix to VAX
Organization: NCHU Computer Center
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:59:31 GMT

    Could someone point me how to print my file from Ultrix to VAX/VMS?
Is there a lpd like in UNIX for VAX/VMS that I can use lpr in Ultrix and
print the file to VAX?
    Thanks for your helping.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
From: rosenth@vision.ethz.ch (Lukas Rosenthaler)
Subject: Re: Limitations on memory allocation for a single user
Keywords: memory
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:06:56 GMT

In <1gn0hoINNhut@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de> marten@ilt.fhg.de (Lutz Marten) writes:


>Hello,
>we are using a package called FIDAP from Fluid Dynamics on a DECstation
>5000/240, Ultirx 4.3, 72 MB ram. The kernel has been rebuild after the
>instalation with "physmem 72". The problem that occurs:

>start-up
>display initialization begins..run..
>child is dead
>child is dead
> *** F I D A P   M E M O R Y   E R R O R ***
>     FIDAP  IS UNABLE TO ACCESS REQUESTED MEMORY.
>     MEMORY REQUESTED WAS     12000000 BYTES.
>     EXECUTION ABORTED.
>child is dead

>Is there any limitation on the memory that a single user may allocate ?

>--
># Lutz Marten,  Postmaster and general dogsbody 
># Fraunhofer-Gesellschaft Institut fuer Lasertechnik 
># BITNET: KQ040MA@DACTH11 , InterNet: marten@ilt.fhg.de                        
># HEPNET: 13533::52714::MARTEN, Phone: +49/241/8906-112, -0


Hello,
there are other configuration parameters which have to be set. On
our machine we also set

	maxdsiz	98
	maxtsiz	98
	maxssiz	98

which - if I remember correctly - give the maximum allowed datat size,
text size (program code size) and stack size. Be sure that your swap
partition is large enough! (and don't forget to rebuild the kernel...)

Dr. L. Rosenthaler
University of Basel
Switzerland

rosenth@comp.bioz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec,comp.unix.ultrix
From: nsf@crl.dec.com (Neil Fishman)
Subject: Re: slip connection between DEC machine and the PC/TCP software on pc
Keywords: slip
Organization: DEC Cambridge Research Lab
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 18:51:04 GMT

Which machine is making the SLIP connection?  Is the 486 calling the 5000?  How
are you starting slattach on the 5000?  

-- 
Neil Fishman					Cambridge Research Lab
nsf@crl.dec.com					Digital Equipment Corp.
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: VAX 11/750 and InfoServer 100
Date: 17 Dec 92 06:52:33 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Dec15.200604.970@cmkrnl.com>, jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
> Sorry, no can do.  You can boot it from a disk on an HSC (connected via CI
> adapter), or from a local disk.  But the boot ROMs in the 750 (and the 730 and
> 780 as well) do not know how to boot from an Ethernet controller. 

  Since microcode release 104 or thereabouts (and the mandatory FCO that came
with it), one of the ROMs is reserved for loading the microcode patches from
tape, leaving 3 boot ROMs free for devices (one of which has to be the TU58).
Since you're already spinning the TU58 to load the PCS patch bits, you could
leave the console boot switch set to the TU58 ROM, which will cause you to
load BOOT58 and then VMB from TU58. Once you do this, you can boot any device
that VMB knows about, as well as not needing the funky 750-style boot block
on the boot device.

  However, the VMB distributed with VMS kits (as opposed to the subset VMB in
ROM on newer systems) doesn't understand Ethernet devices. There is partial
support in there (I happened to be in the listings the other day looking),
and the IDSM gives the register values for booting from an Ethernet card, but
it doesn't work (as of VMS V5.4, the last time I looked).

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
From: gezelter@rlgsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: password lost on Vaxstation 2000
Date: 13 Dec 92 12:38:29 EST
Organization: Robert Gezelter Software Consultant, Flushing, NY

In article <12DEC199217221862@utkvx3.utk.edu>, shor@utkvx3.utk.edu (Shor, Andy) writes:
> I just bought a Vaxstation 2000 for which the system password was apparently
> forgotten or corrupted, since the one I was told doesn't work.  That would be a
> reason to sell it.  It was running vms 4.7 and has an RD54 and no input device
> other than ethernet.  Is there a way to get around this using the rom monitor
> and halt switch?  I guess it would work to put the disk on another machine and
> delete the password file, or something like that, but it is a lot of trouble.
> I'm told it doesn't cost anything to transfer the vms license, but that
> wouldn't solve anything by itself.  Any suggestions?  Thank you.
> 
> Andy Shor
> shor@utkvx.utk.edu
-- 
Andy,
 
This is a common hazard. It can occur in a variety of cases where 
a account file has been corrupted. The solution is to perform a 
conversational boot (BOOT/R5=1). This will permit you to either 
boot with an alternate account file OR redirect the STARTUP file 
to OPA0, which will provide you with a way to get control of the 
system after the startup file has completed.
 
If I can be of further assistance, please feel free to contact me 
via Email or phone.
 
- Bob
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