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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:33:37 EST
Reply-To:     Spiros Liolis <SLIOLIS@UTCVM.BITNET>
From:         Spiros Liolis <SLIOLIS@UTCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Oi 3evuxtndes zouv!

Kai bebaia zoun.

Aaaaxxx oi palies kales epoxes tou 91 !!!

Spiros
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 10:30:42 -0700
Reply-To:     "Constantinos A. Caroutas" <cc433336@LONGS.LANCE.COLOSTATE.EDU>
From:         "Constantinos A. Caroutas" <cc433336@LONGS.LANCE.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Eklogiko sustnma EPA
Comments: To: hellas@uga.cc.uga.edu

Grafei o Petros Petropoulos:

> alla to sustnma edw exei ftiaxtei etsi wste va avagkazovtai oi
> politikavtndes va summorfwvovte kai va suvergazovte...autoi pou dev
> kavouv kati tetoio katastrefouv tn xwra (bl. Bush) logo tns adiallaksias
> tous kai autoi pou exouv "majorities" (polu spavia) kavouv oti tous
> katebei (bl. Reagan) kai odngouv tn xwra stnv katastrofn...

O Rngkav bgnke me pleiocnfia, alla tn bouln kai tn gerousia tnv elegxe to
allo komma. De mporouse loipov va kavei o,ti tou katebei. Oute ki o Mpous
episns.

Telos, poia eivai telos pavtwv autn n katastrofn; Mia filn mou pnre Master
Xnmikos Mnxavikos persi kai bgazei #350 (gure $800) to mnva stnv Kupro.
Edw qa ebgaze polu perissotera ki omws leme oti edw n oikovomia dev ta
paei kala kai stnv Kupro ta paei.

Av n katastrofn avaferetai sta koivwvika problnmata twv HPA, tote sumfwvw.

Kwstas Karoutas
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:42:23 -0500
Reply-To:     "(Anastassiades - Advanced Rotorcraft Technology / NASA Ames)"
              <tassos@ART.DNET.NASA.GOV>
From:         "(Anastassiades - Advanced Rotorcraft Technology / NASA Ames)"
              <tassos@ART.DNET.NASA.GOV>
Subject: Re: Diw3n dikastwv upo0esns Skuftouln
Comments: To: HELLAS@BROWNVM.brown.edu@6913.DNET.NASA.GOV

> Etsi polu proxeira ta paradeigmata. Oudemia ekpln3n gia tnv avatrixiastikn
> poreia twv pragmatwv stnv Ellada. Avti va blepoume avarxikous kai tromokrates,
> 0a eprepe va fritoume mprosta stnv katapatnsn twv stoixeiwdwv dikaiwmatwv
> tou politn. H dnmokratia eivai duskolo pragma, kai kivduveuei perissotero
> apo autous pou pave va tnv prostateyouv me "tromovomous" kai dikastes
> tns tromaras.

> Xairetw sas,

> Stratos kai Kurstratos
>     Di kai Ci

> PS. Heinrich Boll "H Xamevn timn tns Katarivas Mploum". Osoi vomizetai
>     oti ola ta pio pavw eivai adikaiologntes usteries kavete evav kopo
>     kai diabasete to biblio tou Germavou vompelista.


Eytyxws poy teleytaia anakateytike kai h Diethnhs Amnhstia, kai
etsi isws mporesei na mpei kapoios fragmos stis kataxrhseis ths
ejoysias! H ESA ths xoyntas mporei na metonomasthike, oi ejoysies
ths na perioristhkan, alla to pneyma twn anthrwpwn poy thn
apoteloysan synexizei na yparxei: sta MAT, stoys Zhtades, se oloys aytoys
poy nomizoyn oti epeidh forane mia stolh mporoyn na energoyn
xwris elegxo, xwris periorismoys...


Tassos Anastassiades
Mountain View, CA
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 16:43:21 CST
Reply-To:     "(Petros Petropoulos)" <ouzo@ENGR.TRINITY.EDU>
From:         "(Petros Petropoulos)" <ouzo@ENGR.TRINITY.EDU>
Subject: Re: Na tous parei kai na tous shkwsei
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Comments: cc: hellas@engr.Trinity.EDU

Tsimbas mikre ??? Stoukas 0a se kavouv Stoko otav
parouv to file pou etoimazw gia ta teleutaia
eutrapela stn lista...

Petros (San Antonio)
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:14:00 -0400
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Subject:      mnvologio 11/11
Comments: To: HELLAS@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU

	Aurio, Tetartn 11 Noembriou giortn Mnva kai Biktwros osiwv
Xrovia Polla

Sotiris Sotiropoulos
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:56:31 CST
Reply-To:     "(Peter Vafeades)" <peter@ENGR.TRINITY.EDU>
From:         "(Peter Vafeades)" <peter@ENGR.TRINITY.EDU>
Subject:      DIOR0WSH
Comments: To: hellas@engr.Trinity.EDU

To diafnmistiko twv NYT isxurizetai oti to 91 oi pragmatikoi mis0oi EPESAN
3%.  Na me sugxwreite gia to la0os
P.B>
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:30:05 -0500
Reply-To:     "(K.X. Georgiou)" <kxg7283@ULTB.ISC.RIT.EDU>
From:         "(K.X. Georgiou)" <kxg7283@ULTB.ISC.RIT.EDU>
Subject:      Olympiakos
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

Kala re gauroi, gaurakia, kai gauriskoi.  Den eipame;
Perimenw o kakomoirhs reportaz gia thn dynamikothta ths
A0letiko kai exei pesei tetoia boubamara pou mou erxete
na spasw to keyboard.  Ti ginete;  To ri3ate sto glenti
ep' eukairias ths prokrhshs;  Xe, Xe Xe.

--
Kyriakos Gewrgiou
1as apo tous 4,500,000 gaurous

kxg7283@ultb.isc.rit.edu
kxg7283@cs.rit.edu
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:33:00 GMT
Reply-To:     Harris Mantzaridis <CLFV14@VAXB.STRATHCLYDE.AC.UK>
From:         Harris Mantzaridis <CLFV14@VAXB.STRATHCLYDE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: HELLAS kai NEWS
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>Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 20:44:24 EDT
>From: Stratos Safioleas <MG543C@edu.gwu.gwuvm>
>Subject: Re: HELLAS kai NEWS

>On Sun, 8 Nov 1992 01:32:00 GMT you said:
>>Kalhspera se osoys ksenyxtoyn h' 0a ksenyxthsoyn Sabbatiatika.
>>
>>Xarhs
>>
>>Y.G. Pros to paron antexw ston peirasmo na parw meros sth syzhthsh gia to
>>Makedoniko (to idio ekana kai x0es me thn meionothta sth 0rakh) logw api0ana
>>megaloy fortoy ergasias...
>
>Edw 0a eimaste parea pali. :)

Telika, thn ekana sxetika nwris x0es to brady... Bebaia, oi pente wres diafora
poy exoyme shmainoyn oti to ksenyxti to diko mas einai molis apogeymatinh
doyleia gia esas, alla den peirazei... :-))

>Kala kaveis kai de mplekeis.
>
>Egw orkistnka va mnv 3avagrayw mexri tnv alln ebdomada mail pavw apo
>pevte seires.

Kati moy leei omws oti se trwei to xeri soy, etsi den einai;  ;-)))

>Geia kai xara,
>
>Stratos, DC

Geia kai xara kai se sena, Strato
kai fysika, Xronia Polla!
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:53:37 EST
Reply-To:     "(Theodoros Sp. Zarros)" <zarros@SCS.CARLETON.CA>
From:         "(Theodoros Sp. Zarros)" <zarros@SCS.CARLETON.CA>
Subject:      Moysikh gia osoys ksenyxtoyn...
Comments: To: hellas@uga.cc.uga.edu

Mia kai toys ay0entikoys ksenyxthdes toys pathse to traino,
eipa na anoiksw to ksenyxtadiko mia fora , etsi timhs eneken..
H wra perasmenes 2 , h doyleia boyno , sto walkman h Arbanitakh me
stelnei kai afierwnw ena kommati ths se osoys doyleyoyn ayth thn wra.

Kalh dynamh se oloys,

0odwros, O(k)taba.


       Den apanta
       ==========       (Eley0eria Arbanitakh)
Exw gemisei th zwh moy me anases ,
poy xronia t' anebainw kontra ta skalia.
Ki anapsane eksafna oi ais0hseis moy oi pases ,
kai lew , "sto 0anato , 0a fygw ap' th doyleia".

Ta meshmeria poy h kardia stenaxwrietai ,
poy ka0e bhma moy to blepei oristiko.
Ths lew agaph moy , h agaph den kratietai ,
m' ena thlefwno ki ekeino biastiko.


           Refrain
Den apanta , den emfanizetai , den epistrefei ,
ki oyte rwta , mhpws thn gyrepsan,
den ein' edw.

Exw kremasei sto mpalkoni moy ena asteri ,
toy oneiroy moy toys magoys na odhgei .
Ki aytoi poy mesa moy me plhgwsan poios kserei ,
mporei sto psema toys mia bolta na' xoyn bgei.

           Refrain
Den apanta , den emfanizetai , den epistrefei ,
ki oyte rwta , mhpws thn gyrepse pote kaneis.
Den apanta , h eley0eria ths xrono den exei ,
einai kala kai zei ston kosmo ths opws kai seis.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:45:04 MST
Reply-To:     "(Leo J. Irakliotis)" <irakliot@LONGS.LANCE.COLOSTATE.EDU>
From:         "(Leo J. Irakliotis)" <irakliot@LONGS.LANCE.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Control Systems -- Bohueia ?

An yparxei kaneis HELLASiths o opoios na asxoleitai me Control
Systems as epikoinwnhsei mazi moy me proswpiko, parakalw. Exw
ena problhma me Controlable kai Observale State Variable Repre-
sentation (SVR) kauws kai me Jordan SVR. Dedomenoy pws den eimai
mhxanikos alla fysikos, ua ektimoysa kaue syndromh :-)

Filika,
Leonidas                          irakliot@longs.lance.colostate.edu
CSU & NSF                                      l.irakliotis@ieee.org
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From: alexandr@QUCIS.QUEENSU.CA ((Georgios Alexandris))
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Subject: Makedonia
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:38:02 GMT
Reply-To: "(Georgios Alexandris)" <alexandr@QUCIS.QUEENSU.CA>
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Re paidia, ti theloun na mas poune merika atoma mesa apo ti lista;
Oti prepei na poume stous Skopianous, entaksei, xrhsimopoieiste
to onoma Makedonia h' oti allo thelete, valte to asteri ths Verginas
sth shmaias sas, tupwste ton Leuko Purgo sta grammatoshma sas (auta
exoun HDH GINEI), eseis eiste oi apogonoi tou M. Alexandrou, kai h
Thessalonikh dikia sas einai, alla twra thn exoume katalavei emeis,
prospatheistai ama thelete na thn ksanaparete pisw. Auta theloune
na tous poume; Sa sto spiti sas;

Pw's koimantai etsi merika atoma pou theloune na thewrountai kai
Ellhnes. Ksupnhste re, deite kai ligo pio makria, protou mas poune
oti ta Ellhnika sunora einai sta Tembh (h' kai pio katw!).

                            Yiorgos, Kingston - Ontario
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 12:35:11 EST
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Comments: To: HELLAS@BROWNVM.brown.edu

>
>        Ap' oti apopsi to blepeis ... to Electoral sustnma DEN
>        eivai "Dnmokratiko",   Fobomaste;  Dev exw elpides v'ala3ei,
>        alla n0ela va ekfrasw tnv apopsn mou.... Fere tnv Apln avalogikn
>        ... 0a protimousa va eixa 15% avtiprosopia para 2n n 3n
>        eklogn (kai mn pei kaveis oti "as psifises tov Perot n tnv Fulani
>        n tov Marrou klp.)
>                ...Etsi eivai stn kapdia tns Dutikns Dnmokpatias ...
>
>                        --- Mixalns tns koivovias

   Sumfwnw apoluta.
Xwris polles koubentes to eklogiko susthma twn EPA
einai antidhmokratiko.


   Panagiwths apo Waterloo.
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ta "post" mou xanontai sto apeiro;;;

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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 02:41:21 CST
Reply-To:     "(Kathy Nickolopoulos)" <katerina@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
From:         "(Kathy Nickolopoulos)" <katerina@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      Wednesday night in Chicago...
Comments: To: "(Lista)" <hellas@brownvm.brown.edu>

Kalnspera, paidia...

	Kata tuxn, to Chicago Ouzo Association eixe eva "impromptu meeting
of sorts" apoye sto gvwsto <<Cairo>> tou Sikagou.  Ekei bre0ikave bebaia oi
gvwstoi Fraggos, Kobotis, kai Avtwviadns, mazi me alla peripherals tou COA.
Oi Fraggos kai Kobotis telika m'epeisav va afnsw tnv douleia mou gia mia
bradua, va bgw kai 'gw ligaki, kai prepei va pw oti perasa polu wpaia!  To
<<Hellenic Five>> (akou ovoma...) mas pai3ave merika apo ta gvwsta
skul...eee, asmata tou kalokairiou - <<Eimai sta Xa.i. Mou>>, <<Eisai
Pavtou>> tou Karra, kai episns stous katakombes, ta techno "Rhythm is a
Dancer" tous Snap, to KLF, kai diaforoi alloi <<vtopioi>> tou Sikagou :)

	Prepei va pw omws, pws o Giwrgakns telika eprepe va perase kalutera
ap'olous mas...me to va tragoudaei suvexeia me tov tragoudistn (ektos,
bebaia, ta skuladika pou dev tou pave), kai to tsigaraki tou, kai tis diafores
gkomeves, pou tov kavave va yaxvei ta matia tou :)))  To kanmevo!!!
O Kwstas me tnv vodka tou ta eixe katabrei, alla dev xoreye telika (e,
toulaxistov mexri pou va fugoume emeis [polu polu vwris, dnstuxws, alla ti
va kavoume; oloi douleia aurio]), evw o Baggelns ligaki skeptikos apoye,
kai dev elege polla.  H Gewrgia suvexeia xamogela, n Giavva vustaze, kai
'gw me tnv Sofia stnv pista me ta kalamatiava kai ta tsamika mas :))))

Axxxx, mou'meivav 41 meres movo....

Kalnvuxta sas, loipov, kai kaln douleia.  Egw pavtws prepei va 3upvisw se
ti; 2 wres kai 54 lepta...ouf.  Tnv kavw...

Kateriva
(Ekproswpos tou COA)
:)
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Palikaria, gia sas...

   H8es pou lete ta piname me kati kolitaria...
   Ipiame deka  mpires, vkika volta meta kai katevasa alles dyo mbiritses.
   Meta gyrisa stin "Sellini" (s.s. : einai kafeteria) kai vrika ena filaraki
   pou giartaze x8es (s.s ton lene Aggelo) kai katevasame kokkino krasaki.
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Subject:      Re: KATALHPSH - GEWPONIKHS
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...
Kala kai ti sxesh exount ta TEFAA me thn Geoponikh.
Afeiste ta sth Geoponikh ta pragmata brwmane.

Oso gia ton Marino ti na pei kaneis. Oi De3ioi ton apokaloun PASOK,
oi Poasoktshdes, De3io, kai oi Aristeroi Fasista.
Apo auto kai mono mporei kaneis na katalabei oti einai a3iologo
atomo. E3allou oi pergamhnes tou sth dhmosiagrafia einai megales kai
polles.

Andreas Stokas
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Subject:      Re: Ivdiavoi kai dikaiwma yhfou.
Comments: To: hellas@uga.bitnet

Oloi oi Indianoi exoun dikaiwma pshfou kai OLOI einai Amerikanoi polites ("by
Congressional decree" 1923 h' 1924 [den 0ymamai akribws]).

--- Kwstas
From: demetris@WAM.UMD.EDU (Demetris Zarafopoulos)
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 Apo oti blepw stnv hellas movo alln mia partida paizetai.

 Prongoumevn sou kivnsn: e3
 Apavtw me : g8-f6 (Knight from g8 to f6)

 Geia xara,
 Demetris Zarafopoulos
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Subject:      Anekdoto
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Epitelous katafera na katharisw ta mynhmata twn prohgoumenwn hmerwn
(san th Lernaia Ydra einai: Svhneis ena, erxontai dyo!) opote synexizw
me ta anekdota.

  A fellow comes home after golf one Sunday afternoon, falls asleep on the
  couch, and doesn't wake up until about 9 PM.  His wife asks why he is so
  tired.

  "Well, You remember George, my golfing buddy?  He died today, on the
  fourth green."

  "That's terrible," she says.

  "It sure was," he says, "For the next 14 holes it was drive, drag George,
  chip, drag George, putt, drag George..."

--
Vartan
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Subject:      Tourkikes omades (fwd)
Comments: To: "(lista)" <hellas@brownvm.brown.edu>

Stis spoudaioteres suvavtnseis snmera:
# ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# > From: benan@utkvx1.utk.edu (Basoglu, Benan)
# > Subject: UEFA kuapsinda Turk takimlari
# > Date: 4 Nov 92 15:08:00 GMT
#
# SIGMA OLOMUC (CZE) 7   -  Fenerbahce  1  /  Toplam (7-2)
#
# Fener maca hizli basladi. Macin ilk dakikalarinda kaptan Ridvan
# ceza sahasi icinde dusuruldu. Hakem devam dedi ve itiraz eden
# Ridvan'a hakem sari kart gosterdi. Bu olayin hemen arkasindan
# Sigma takiminin bir oyuncusu Fener caza sahasi icersinde dusuruldu,
# hakem tereddutsuz penalti noktasini gosterdi; 1-0. Mac baslar
# baslamaz maruz kaldigi cifte standart'in moral bozuklugu icinde
# Fener kalesinde hemen ikinci golu gordu. 32. dakikada hakeminde
# buyuk yardimlariyla durum 3-0 oldu. Fener 15 kisiye ragmen mucadele
# etmesine karsin maci birakmadi ve durumu Aykut'un goluyle 3-1 yapti.
# Fakat, hakem Fener'in henuz cosmaya basladigi bir anda yine tokadini
# yapistirdi ve 41 dakikada gosterdigi kirmizi kartla Fener'in sahada
# 10 kisi birakti. Bu yetmemis gibi 72. ve 73. dakikalarda iki Fenerli
# oyuncu daha kirmizi kart gordu ve Fener sahada 8 kisi kaldi. Hakem
# Fener'den hirsini iyice almisti artik ki, 8'e karsi 15 kisiyle
# mucadele etme sansini yakalayan Sigma takiminin bundan sonraki
# isi fark'i arttirip Portekiz'li hakemin nesesine nese katmak oldu!
# Hacli seferi gibi bir macti dogrusu. Allah sabir versin!
#
# ----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# GALATASARAY 1  -  Eintracht Frankfurt (GER) 0   /  Toplam  (1-0)
#
# Galatasaray daha macin besinci dakikasinda Ugur'un ayagindan
# kazandigi golle 1-0 one gecti. Macin kalan dakikalarinda
# Galatasaray farki arttirmak yerine attigi golun uzerine yatma
# egilimde idi. Sonucta kaleci Hayrettin'inde guzel futboluyla
# dilegine kavustu. Ve Galatasarayimiz guclu bir Alman takimini
# eleyerek 3.tura cikti.
#
# -----------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# Selamlar
#
# Benan BASOGLU
#
#
#
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Via:      UK.AC.BHAM;  6 NOV 92 10:41:08 GMT
Via:      uk.ac.birmingham.computer-centre.vax1; Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:37:42 +0000
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:39:00 LCL
Reply-To:     IVRISSIMTZIS@VAX1.COMPUTER-CENTRE.BIRMINGHAM.AC.UK
From:         IVRISSIMTZIS@VAX1.COMPUTER-CENTRE.BIRMINGHAM.AC.UK
Subject:      Apo to afierwma twv FT sth B.Ellada
Comments: To: hellas%brownvm.bitnet@BIRMINGHAM.AC.UK

(Ta sxolia eivai proswpikes apopseis).

>Greek insistence that the neighbouring republic cannot be recognized
>under the name of Macedonia exasperates the rest of the EC, all the
>more since the Athens government is not willing to sit down and
>negotiate a solution with its counterpart in Skopjie.

Logiko erwthma... H kybervhsh meta apo pieseis mias omadas laikistwv, poy brhke
aveta rizes stov eparxiwtismo, to rhxo patriwtismo kai thv  ypokoyltoyra ths
ellhvikhs koivwvias (bl. "Macedonia is Greece, motherfuckers"), afoy ekave
aksova mias arvhtikns politikhs th leksh ("kai ta paragwga ths!") sthv ovomasia
toy kratidioy, arveitai kai ka0e diapragmateysh me ayto. Pragma poy odhgei me
bebaiothta se adieksodo kai dev 0a avteksei sto xrovo.

>But to foreign observers, Greece not only has little to fear as the only Nato
>and EC member in the Balkans, but risks losing a chance to play a leading
>role in the region's transition to a market economy.
>   It therefore comes as a surpise to hear the western-educated business elite
>in Thessaloniki endorse the government's hardline position.

Otav h ypoloiph Eyrwph badizei se politikh-oikovomikh evopoihsh, xwris h mazi
mas, otav h Ellada -me tosa problhmata kai se krisimo stayrodromi- prepei va
apofasisei gia th moira ths, evw ths divetai movadikh kai teleytaia eykairia va
prokopsei kai va avaptyx0ei, alloi gyrizoyv to roloi merikes xilieties pisw,
sta xrovia toy Megaleksavdroy, avalwvomevoi se miav akarph kai atermovh strofh
gyrw apo tov eayto toys. Kratave thv istoria va mh toys fygei, les kai shmera
akoma ki av symbei exei kamia shmasia h kapoio avtiktypo. Kai oi alloi logika
avarwtioyvtai: Ma ti kavete ekei pera?

Thymamai o Jensen (yp. ekswterikwv ths Davias) aphydismevos meta apo mia  akomh
avoysia syzhthsh gia to Makedoviko eixe pei: "H Ellada prepei epiteloys va
apofasisei av 0elei va avnkei stnv Eyrwph h sta Balkavia". 0a dialeksoyme  ta
Balkavia?

Kai liga gia th Slabofwvh meiovothta, apo to idio ar0ro.

>Officially, Slav-speakers number 35,000; but add up the figures given by
>local officials across northern Greece, and it is clear that some 100,000
>people have an understanding of the Slav dialect used in Greece....
>Recently, one or two attempts by Slav-speakers to form cultural clubs have been
>turned down by local courts. "We don't pose a threat to anyone. We're Greek
>citizens, but we have a rich cultular tradition and a language we want to
>preserve", says Mr Traiavos Pasois, who belongs to a group of Slav speaking
>activists.

Lewvidas Ivrisimtzis
Birmingham
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From: 60856883@WSUVM1.BITNET
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Subject: Die0vns Amvnstia
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:22:52 GMT
Reply-To: 60856883@WSUVM1.BITNET
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU


     Paidia epese sta xeria mou gramma apo tnv Die0vn Amvnstia pou periegrafe t
nv drasn tou Orgavismou tov teleutaio kairo.  Ekei eixe ta ovomata av0rwpwv pou
 apeleu0erw0nkav me tnv epembasn tns Die0vous Amvnstias avamesa sta opoia upnrx
e kai to ovoma Angelos Voyiannis apo Ellada.  Eitav malista grammevo oti gia au
tov egive klnsn gia bon0eia apo ta meln tov Flebarn tou 1990.  Exeis kaveis apo
 sas upopsn tou ta sxetika me tnv upo0esn autn;
                          Ntiva Poga - W.S.U.