From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Proposal for reorgan (1)
X-To: DAVE GROSS
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:32:00 GMT

dgross@zeus.calpoly.edu (Dave Gross) writes...

(All of these ideas sound great so far!  I have deleted the list to save
space).

DG>         soc.manumission (moderated)

DG>         Analogous to soc.feminism, this would be a moderated group for
DG> posting news and thoughtful analysis of men's issues.  Followups
DG> regularly set to soc.men, alt.dads-rights or soc.feminism.d.  I forsee this
DG> group as one of fairly low traffic.

Good idea!  I also agree with your prediction as to the amount of traffic.

Why the name manumission, though?  Why not masculinism?  Does this term
have negative connotations, in your opinion?


DG>         soc.men

DG>         Posters would encourage a man-friendly atmosphere and refer
DG> debates and flames and acrimonious discussion of feminism to
DG> soc.feminism.d or alt.flame.

Would anyone actually follow such advice?


DG>         soc.women

DG>         Posters would encourage a woman-friendly atmosphere and refer
DG> debates and flames and acrimonious discussion of feminism to
DG> soc.feminism.d or alt.flame.

Same concern...


DG>         talk.abortion

DG>         Unchanged from the current talk.abortion (I'm not about to
DG> tackle this tar baby)                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"I sure don't want to tackle this skin of evil, look what it did to Tasha
Yar!"  :-)


DG>         talk.choice.men

DG>         Replaces alt.abortion.inequity, putting this group on the same
DG> classification level as talk.abortion.  The purpose of this group would
DG> be to debate reproductive rights for men.  This group would substitute
DG> for the discussion of this topic in soc.men (like talk.abortion and
DG> talk.rape substitute for the discussion of those issues in soc.women)
DG> so cross-posting from this group to soc.men would be discouraged.

Actually, I have some concerns about this idea, Dave.  Remember that a.a.i.
isn't entirely about male choice ; for whenever the topic comes up, it is
about men's feelings about being involved in an unintended pregnancy.  (ie.,
unintended by the woman, not necessarily so by him).  Indeed, this was
originally the reason why I joined a.a.i.

I have a suggestion.  If you recall, a few months ago, I was talking about
creating alt.support.abortion (moderated), but I wondered if there was a
better place to put it, which wouldn't place it into the alt hierarchy (ie.,
into soc or some other hierarchy ; if I *did* put it into soc, however, it
would clash with the existence of alt.support and alt.sexual-abuse.recovery.

Could you offer some advice on how I should handle this? Thanks. (...keeping
in mind that I have never moderated a newsgroup before, let alone ever
having *created* one).

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