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From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: NT on a workstation
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:09:27 GMT
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Philipps-University Marburg, Germany
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers

In <1993Jan16.193502.12729@news.columbia.edu> dbl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Dominic B LoTempio) writes:
>       Windows NT question:
>
>       Since Windows NT will run on other platforms such as workstations,
>will these computers be able to run the same applications as those written
>for the PC's NT?
>
>       For example, will I see:
>Word for Windows NT for the PC and
>Word for Windows NT for the SPARC
>
>or just Word for Windows NT???

Many software vendors have announced, that they will sell only a single
product, that contains binaries (EXE and DLL files) for multiple platforms.
So normally you are not limited to one platform.

Christoph
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From: storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc Wandschneider)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: ATI Ultra/8514/VGA Wonder & mouse
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:43:12 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1993Jan25.205422.8421@solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de> hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter) writes:
>
>I recently received a new ATI-Driver (released 23JAN93) MXXNT6.ZIP. Since
>cica does not allow uploads right now, get it from
>allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de in /ftp/anonymou/nt.
>
>This driver does not support VGA Wonder graphics, but contains a new
>mouse driver, that should work with the VGA Wonder mouse. At least the
>README says so. I have no VGA Wonder to test.

	I downloaded the new ATI Versiion 6 drivers this morning, and 
as soon as I rebooted the machine with them, all the graphics completely
ceased to work properly, and I had to move back to the version 5 ones.

	I have a 16MB Machine with the GU+ 1MB Card, so who knows what the
problems there are.  I guess I'll check over the readme tonight.

	Toodlepip!
	Marc 'em.
-- 
  storm@cs.mcgill.ca           McGill P.O.W Camp         "Oh crap---It's not
  Marc Wandschneider           Montreal, CANADA             random enough"
	Any opinions expressed are not mine, but those of the Demon Lord
      Yeegeheeegenogohugu who possessed me whilst I munched on Raisin Bran.
From: pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Wierd error during NT boot up
Date: 24 Jan 1993 19:13:19 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

I posted this once before a few weeks ago, but there seems to be a lot
more traffic on the group lately, so maybe there are more people
listening.  Anyway, can anyone tell me what the following error
message means?

First, my setup: I'm using a Tri-Star 486/33 EISA (Intel EISA chipset)
with 16MB RAM and a Data Technology Corp. 3290HD EISA SCSI controller.
I'm using a 3rd party miniport SCSI driver obtained from the DTC BBS.
The CDROM is a CD Technology Porta-Drive (basically, a Toshiba XM-3301
in an external cabinet), and the hard disk is a Maxtor Panther P0-12S
1.2GB SCSI.

Anyway, I go through the NT setup procedure by first typing WINNT in
the \I386 directory of the CDROM.  This creates a boot disk and a temp
file on my hard disk.  I then copy the third-party driver renamed as
SPARE.SYS to both the boot disk and the temporary NT directory.  I
then reboot with the new install boot disk.

At this point, the NT kernel boots and goes into the phase where it
checks all the FAT partitions on my hard disk (I have three, C:, D:,
and E:).  Here's where it starts to get wierd.  First of all, during
these volume checks, I sometimes get an error message along the lines
of "Disk error reading FAT 2".  This can happen either on D: or E:
seemingly at random.  (Note that MS-DOS CHKDSK and Norton Disk Doctor
6.0 report no problems with the FATs).

Now, at this point I get the following messages:

INIT: Created paging file \DosDevices\c:\pagefile.sys [10..60]MB
CMINIT Warning: Hive 'SOFTWARE' could not be created/loaded.

At this point, the drive access light flashes every ten seconds or so
for a period of about a minute or two.  After that, the system seems
to be completely locked up.

Due to the "Disk error" message, I tend to suspect that the driver is
the culprit, but I can't be sure.  Does anyone know what the CMINIT
warning means?  What's a "Hive"?

I'd really appreciate any help.  Thanks.

Paul

-- 
Paul Secinaro
pss1@kepler.unh.edu
Synthetic Vision and Pattern Analysis Laboratory
UNH Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering
From: jls@atglab.atg.com (Jerome Schneider)
Reply-To: jls@atg.com
Date: 26 Jan 93 01:41:15 GMT
Message-ID: <1993Jan26.014115@atglab.atg.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Distribution: na
Subject:  Re: Transtor T128 NT driver
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Semder: news@atglab.atg.com (News system)
Organization: Aspen Technology Group
X-Mailer: UUPC/bsnews 2.1 modified



> Its on ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the uploads directory, but
> I have not been able to get it to work with my NEC74 CD-ROM...
> If you have any luck (or anybody has any ideas...) let me know.
> It hangs my 486/33 every time right before doing the check
> disks on the hard disks...
>                             -Jim.

I have the T130B card rather than the T128, but trantor talks 
about both cards (see the NT readme file) in the section on setting
interrupt jumpers for NT.  Under DOS, the T130 driver doesn't use
interrupts, and the jumper default on my card was set to disable
all interrupts (for use under DOS).  The NT driver documentation
indicates the NT driver requires an interrupt (IRQ5 by default)
set on the card.  If your T128 card has no IRQ selected, it could
hang while booting, waiting for an interrupt from the card.

Your mileage may vary.  Hope this helps.

--
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: rkl@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (kevin.laux)
Subject: New ATI NT drivers on Compuserve
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:14:26 GMT

	I noticed yesterday (19 jan 93) that there was a new version (6?) of
the ATI NT drivers in the ATITECH forum on Compuserve.  Just thought you'd
all like to know...

-- 
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	R. Kevin Laux				Email: rkl1@hound.att.com
	AT&T Bell Labs				Voice: (908) 949-1160
	Holmdel, NJ 07733			Fax:   (908) 949-0959
From: sanzgiri@bombay.metaphor.com (Ajit Sanzgiri)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: How to find name of app ?
Date: 29 Jan 93 01:29:30 GMT
Organization: Metaphor Computer Systems, Mountain View, CA
Originator: sanzgiri@bombay


	How does one programmatically find the name of the application
	running the currently executing code ? In UNIX this info is
	contained in argv[0]. In Windows the corresponding arg to WinMain
	(lpCmdLine) does not contain the program name. Is it available some
	other way ?

	My Win16 programming guide speaks about externals called _argc and
	_argv. These don't seem to exist under Win32.

	-ajit sanzgiri
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: Official Support & bug-reporting on Compuserve only 
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:58:19 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <727571286snx@apusapus.demon.co.uk> tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins) writes:
>ftp.uu.net would be more useful if the file names reflected their contents
>rather than the cryptic 1,2,3,4...! :-(

True, but compuserve is limited to 6.3 names, and the ftp.uu.net is a
mirror of the uploaded files from the compuserve libs -- Alistair
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: jmbrown@netcom.com (John M. Brown)
Subject: Windows NT and Novell
Keywords: IPX for NT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:10:15 GMT

According to Novell sources there is to be a post on Monday 25-JAN-93
of a ALPHA  IPX requester for Win/NT.  Be advised that it only supports
NE2000 and IBM Token Ring cards.  You might ask Why, since the OS is 
providing the HARDWARE driver for the net cards.  Well, Novell (games again)
is trying to push there ODI spec, and they are pushing it to NT, instead
of writing a protocol stack, like all the other protocols under NT.

I'll post my reponse to the driver, as soon as I down-load it..  I'll
also post a comment or two on how the driver SHOULD have been written!

Those of you with the DDK read up on NDIS etc.

laters
jmbrown@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: DOS Client to Windows NT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17f by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Philipps-University Marburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:42:21 GMT

In <16B5FEEDE.ST33161@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU> ST33161@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU writes:
>What client software do I need to access Drives and Printers on a Windows NT
>machine?

You may use the following products:

- Windows for Workgroups
- DOS Client for MS-LAN-Manager
- DOS Client for IBM OS/2 LAN-Server (tricky to work around IBM's extensions)

If you don't need security you can use the following (older) product.

- MSNETworks
- IBM PC-LAN Program

In this case, you must setup privileges for "Guests" or "everyone" to access
resources.

Hope this helps.

Christoph
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From: tnsturm@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress 16 Windows NT driver.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:41:14 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks) writes:


>Yes, that driver will be in the next win32 sdk update - it may
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
				 When ? Next Month ? When ?

Torsten
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao)
Subject: Transtor T128 NT driver
Organization: AT&T Bell Lab
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:49:47 GMT

I am looking for Transtor T128 driver for NT. If anybody has the
information, please post it here or send e-mail to me.

Thanks a lot!


Heng-Hsin Liao
liaohen@iexist.att.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: dhess@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Drew William Hess)
Subject: Re: New ATI NT drivers on Compuserve
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: na
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:45:41 GMT

rkl@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (kevin.laux) writes:

>	I noticed yesterday (19 jan 93) that there was a new version (6?) of
>the ATI NT drivers in the ATITECH forum on Compuserve.  Just thought you'd
>all like to know...

>-- 
>________________________________________________________________________________
>	R. Kevin Laux				Email: rkl1@hound.att.com
>	AT&T Bell Labs				Voice: (908) 949-1160
>	Holmdel, NJ 07733			Fax:   (908) 949-0959

Would someone with access to Compuserve be so kind as to upload these
to wuarchive.wustl.edu or ftp.cica.indiana.edu (if they're taking uploads
again)?  Thanks mucho.

-dwh-
dhess@cs.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: dale@mkseast.uucp (Dale Gass)
Subject: Re: POSIX interface/Access to WIN32 calls 
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems, Atlantic Canada Branch
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:07:46 GMT

chris@chrism.demon.co.uk (Chris Marriott) writes:
>*Three* different subsystems?  There's:

Not to belabour my point in an earlier posting, but...:

>    Win32
	Yup, a binary compatability box makes sense for old binaries...
>    Win16 ("WOW")
	Yup, a binary compatability box makes sense for old binaries...
>    DOS
	Yup, a binary compatability box makes sense for old binaries...
>    OS/2
	Yup, a binary compatability box makes sense for old binaries...
>    Posix
	Huh?  There are no existing Posix binaries for the subsystem, you
	have to build them on NT.  Why not just extend the NT API
	sufficiently.  (Because it will make the NT API hairier?  That
	doesn't seem to have been a concern so far in NT :-))

>>My comments are my own.  They are independent and unrelated to the
>>views of my company , relatives or elected representatives.

Ditto...

-dale
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Business: dale@east.mks.com, Pleasure: dale@mkseast.uucp
From: themos@umbc.edu (Mr. Themos Pentakalos)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Windows Tools Sampler
Date: 26 Jan 1993 08:36:15 -0500
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc5.umbc.edu

Hi everyone,

I assume most of you who have been using NT received a letter from
MS about a "free offer" for something called the Tools Sampler.
There is a fax number which we are supposed to reply to but I have not
been able to get through. I believe the fax is probably turned off
because I have tried to send throughout the 24 hour day. 

Anyone have any input on this?

-Themos
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks)
Subject: Re: Official Support & bug-reporting on Compuserve only
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:56:45 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <C168Ao.3Fs@ngc.com> alexism@ngc.com (Alexis Mermet) writes:
>Why can't it be consistent with all microsoft services ?

Not all support for all products come from the same people or from the same
route, that's all - I'm sure you'll understand that support questions for
installation and operation of the MSDN are quite different from programmers
questions, and that the volume of traffic is quite different, and therefore
the tracking needs. The tracking mechanisms available through compusreve,
and developped around compuserve's facilities, are extensive -- Alistair
From: tnsturm@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Torsten Sturm)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: How to re-install flex boot?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:51:31 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter) writes:


>I have the BOOTSECT utility from CI$. I will upload it to cica tomorrow.

CICA has closed its upload area. 

Torsten
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao)
Subject: Re: Transtor T128 NT driver
Organization: AT&T Bell Lab
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:26:04 GMT

From article <1993Jan22.164717.24899@ncsu.edu>, by jmbeesle@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES MICHAEL BEESLEY):
> 
> Its on ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the uploads directory, but
> I have not been able to get it to work with my NEC74 CD-ROM...
> If you have any luck (or anybody has any ideas...) let me know.
> It hangs my 486/33 every time right before doing the check
> disks on the hard disks...
>                             -Jim.

I experienced the same result. I am also using NEC CDR-74.

1) Using "regedit" to add T128 driver after NT is up.

	Exactly the same result as the above. The system hangs
	in between of (or after) checking the CD-ROM reader and
	before the hard disks file systems check as long as the
	CD-ROM reader is powered on at startup time.

2) Editing setup floppy and try to install NT with T128 driver.

	T128 driver is successfully detected. The copy of the
	NT files from CD-ROM to hard disk goes smoothly except
	the CD-ROM does not have T128.SYS file.

	After the copy, the installation procedure fails to
	decide the system configuration. (Any files need to
	be edited?) The setup is aborted.

Does anybody have idea what's missing?


Heng-Hsin Liao
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: griest@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu (Tom Griest)
Subject: Re: REQUIREMENTS TO RUN NT - HELP
Keywords: Memory Problems
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:37:20 EST

In article <1993Jan25.023051.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>Interesting you should say this. Let me make a few preliminary comments on
>memory and some system boards. We recently when to expand some 386DXs to 8MB
>to run the Oct beta. They trashed ever few minutes. A quick look-see points
>to several problems in the memory area: 1 not enought decoupling caps for the
>SIMMS and driver, 2 power plane has too high an impedence to source the several
>amps needed for the ?? nsec as the memory access starts. 3 undershoot in the
>RAS/CAS lines. Result is flaky memory system. BTW, this is not just on NT,
>you can't run DOS either.
>
>Anyone else seen this?
>
>~Paul
>

When upgrading from 4 to 8MB, we had similar "flaky" operation running Unix.
We had used 9-chip SIMMs for the first 4MB and 3-chip SIMMS in the second
4MB.  We sent back the 3-chip SIMMs and got 9-chip SIMMS --- all problems
went away.  It may have been due to refresh problems between 1Mbit and
4Mbit chips.
   Tom

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: toreh@bootes.sds.no (Tore Haraldsen)
Subject: DOS & WINNT Oct.SDK coexistence
Organization: Statens Datasentral A/S, SDS, Norway
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:32:08 GMT

Is it possible to have DOS & WINNT on the same diskdrive without WINNT
using any space on the DOS partition? I tried to change the first byte
of the DOS partition so that WINNT would not recognize it, but that was
not any good solution, WINNT somehow tried to install on the DOS
partition anyway...

I would prefer to use FDISK or a boot diskette to switch between OSes,
WINNT run MUCH faster in a single NTFS partition than with a DOS C:
partiton and an NTFS partiton.

By the way, I for a while ran WINNT & 386BSD from the same disk without
any problems...

-- tore
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Tore Haraldsen, Statens Datasentral A/S - SDS, Norway
email: toreh@bootes.sds.no
From: rbrown@bbn.com (Ralph Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: UltraStor 34F VL SCSI adapter and Windows NT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Date: 27 Jan 1993 17:43:23 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rbrown@bbn.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: spca.bbn.com


I have an UltraStor 34F VLB card on a CONTAQ (UMB) motherboard
66MHz DX2 486 with an Orchid Fahrenheit VLB S3 video card.

This all works fine for accessing both a Maxtor 340 MB disk and
Texel 5024 CDROM in DOS and Windows. However I cannot install NT.
Both the floppy based install and the WINNT install when they reboot
search for SCSI devices. When the search gets to UltraStor 14F it
hangs.

I've talked to UltraStor and gotten the latest PROMs and they claim
it all works fine with NT.

Has anyone gotten the 34F to run with NT? What hardware are you
using and how did you set it up?

Thanks,
Ralph
From: pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: NT Oct. beta on a 386DX
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:26:22 GMT
Reply-To: pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune)
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology


Will a 8 Mb 386-33 DX be sufficient to run the October beta of NT?



Per Annar Sandaune
Trondheim, Norway
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: rharmon@uucp (Bob Harmon x4964)
Subject: Re: POSIX interface/Access to WIN32 calls 
Organization: /home/server/rharmon/.organization
Date: 28 Jan 93 09:53:16
	<1993Jan25.190746.4106@mkseast.uucp>
	<1993Jan28.005240.10823@microsoft.com>

In article <1993Jan28.005240.10823@microsoft.com> alistair@microsoft.com (Alistair Banks) writes:

   Win32, OS/2 & Posix are the only subsystems in Windows NT - the Win16
   and MS-Dos support are virtual machines written to use the Win32
   API (plus some helper functions) - they're not subsystems in of
   themselves.
   POSIX compatibility and upwards compatibility from Windows are
   mutually exclusive options....

#include <std.grovel>
Could someone explain the difference between a 'subsystem' and a DLL?
A had thought POSIX compatibility on NT would be a library that
translated POSIX to NT microkernel calls.  Then merely linking
with POSIX and Windows would achieve the desired  result.  This seems
to be naive. 





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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: jmbeesle@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES MICHAEL BEESLEY)
Subject: Re: Transtor T128 NT driver
Originator: jmbeesle@c00803-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jmbeesle@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES MICHAEL BEESLEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:47:17 GMT


Its on ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the uploads directory, but
I have not been able to get it to work with my NEC74 CD-ROM...
If you have any luck (or anybody has any ideas...) let me know.
It hangs my 486/33 every time right before doing the check
disks on the hard disks...
                            -Jim.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32