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From: Andreas.Mengel@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Andreas Mengel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Need help with swapping
Keywords: linux, swap
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:18:47 GMT
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany

Hi there!

First of all a BIG THANX to Linus and all the rest who have made this nice l
little *nix work. I just tossed aside my old ISC and installed it.
Looks great, even my C++-sources compile with the new gcc2.1 :-)))

But I also had some little problems:

	- how can I set up the swap-space correctly ?
	  I tried mkswap /dev/hd03 10240 (10MB, 3rd partition) with and
	  without the "-c"-flag to mkswap. And I tried setting up a swap-file
	  with the same result: swapon complains about not being able to find
	  the swap-space-signature (I think its something like "SWAP-SPACE", 
	  looked through the swap-file). Anything I am doing totally wrong ???
	  (B.t.w.: I am using an adaptec-1542b-scsi-controller with a 150MB
	  disk, if that matters)

	- when I compiled my sources (C++) to object-files and put them together
	  into a library using "ar rc libfoo.a foo1.o foo2.o ..." I was not
	  able to link these libraries to my other sources. ld complained
	  about undeclared symbols in the text-segment but nm showed that all
	  the symbols were in the library. I helped me out creating a shared
	  object (with ld -x -r) and linking that.
	  Any suggestions.

Thanx, falcon

Keep working on Linux, this is the best thing I have seen since I first
saw X-Windows.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwinstea@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: HELP! Problems with rootimage.
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:54:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.210115.5364@vax.oxford.ac.uk> tony@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>In article <TSILLANP.92Apr7144847@blob.hut.fi>, tsillanp@niksula.hut.fi (Timo Jaakko Sillanp{{) writes:
>> Am I doing something totally wrong? 
>> I get rootimage.Z from nic.funet.fi (yes, binary mode is on),
>> uncompress it and write it to a floppy disk (1.44Mb) using
>> rawrite.exe. 
>
>the rootimage is (I think !) for a 1.2Mb floppy.  Try to find a rootimage for a 
>1.44 disk - this could be the problem ...

The root image is 1.2 megs because that is the only size that will fit
on both a 1.2 meg 5.25" disk _and_ and 3.5" 1.44 meg disk.  There are
not seperate 3.5" and 5.25" root images.

-- 
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Harvey Mudd College            |  -Geddy Lee,
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
From: drews@bmerh250.bnr.ca (Drew Stevens)
Subject: Stuck on mkfs
Organization: S.I.R. Tools - BNR Ltd.
Distribution: comp,alt
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 04:41:31 GMT

I'm having trouble installing linux on my second hard drive - fdisk
can see any partitions I make (ex. - /dev/hdb4) but there is no device
/dev/hdb4 and so mkfs fails.  I've tried many combinations of primary
and extended partitions (using edpart) and have made the partitions
active but to no avail.  Could someone who has successfully made a 
file system on a second hard drive let please indicate what steps are
necessary?  Thanks in advance.
From: zeus@cs.umd.edu (Hillel Steinberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: tape drive
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:35:32 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

Good point, I have a COLORADO tape drive, and I use it with a program 
called TAPE.EXE under dos, but it would be great if I could treat it 
as a tape drive - i.e. /dev/rst0 !!!
From: tony@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: modem login
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:32:34 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

In article <1992Apr8.023520.19425@athena.mit.edu>, jgifford@attmail.com writes:

> ...

> Anyway, How _does_ one go about login via modem?

> I would ideally like to login to linux via modem(2400 on ttys2) and
> initiate a kermit session to my xt(2400 on ttys1 null modem), however,
> I can't seem to login via my modem.  I have used getty 19200 ttys1 &
> to login directly from the xt, but getty 2400 ttys2 & always gives
> problems(i think the RING message is interfering with normal login)

> ... 

> Jim Gifford
> jgifford@attmail.com

The RING messages will definately mess up your login.  We had a similar problem 
with our dialin modems (to a Gandalf network) at Oxford.  We solved this by 
connecting a terminal to the modem & typeing the following :-

AT&F
AT&C1
AT&D3
AT&K1
ATQ1
AT&W
ATZ

now, for the explinations ...

AT&F	= Factory default the modem (ie reset :-)
AT&C1	= V24 signals follow true state (ie DCD comes on when there is a 
	  carrier)
AT&D3	= Reset modem when DTR is droped.  (Reset the modem when we are
	  disconnected)
AT&K1	= XON/XOFF flow control
ATQ1	= Turn off modem messages (you don't see any responces to commands after
	  this, but the commands are executed)
AT&W	= Store the active configuration
ATZ	= use stored configuration

This may vary from hayes implementation to implementation, so check your modem 
manual; what can I say, it works for us !!!  We push the answer button in on the
modem, you could use ATS0=1

Hope this helps,

Tony


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From: terwindt@cs.utwente.nl (Alfred Terwindt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: big archives
Date: 10 Apr 92 11:28:04 GMT
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science

Hello Linuxers,

Linux runs, great to have a *real* OS running on my PC :-)

I'm fairly unexperienced with the un*x world, so I wonder if there is good
method to save a software package (Linux binaries/sources or root (!) ) on 
floppies. If not, I plan to write something like what I call a 'mdar' witch 
stands for a Multiple Disk ARchive. So, if this a good idea, and I'm not
reinventing the wheel, I like to hear some suggestions, standards etc. I
can't keep up with the group news, so please email.

Alfred.

terwindt@cs.utwente.nl
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From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: swap ?
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:41:33 GMT
Followup-To: LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Manchester

In article <20079@castle.ed.ac.uk> pthoms@castle.ed.ac.uk (P Thomson) writes:
>		 mkfs /dev/hda3
>		 mkswap /dev/hda3  5400 (block) about 5Mbytes
>
>and this seems to work ok ie no errors or complaints
>
>next I'm trying to edit using ue a 1Mbyte file (for test purposes)
>
> 5 seconds later the the disk drive ( a 91 Mbytes space) starts
>working over time (as expected) but then I get an out of memory 
>message and the system seems to hang

What version of the kernel are you running?  There was a problem
in 0.95a, I believe, which was fixed some time ago.  If this is
a later version, especially if it is 0.95c+, it would be well worth
knowing.

Incidentally, have you given a swapon command?

          swapon /dev/hda3

This is necessary before swap is actually used.  The 'free'
command will tell you whether swap is enabled, and if so, how
much is actually being used.

     -- Owen
     LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
From: david@csource.oz.au (david nugent)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Questions and suggestions
Keywords: linux
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 02:31:07 +1000
Reply-To: david@csource.oz.au
Organization: Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia

Adrian.Wallaschek@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Adrian Wallaschek) writes:

 >   - is there anybody working on a serial driver for multiport cards as
 >     ast-compatible cards, etc. (There is a freeware-driver for commercial
 >     *nix-versions called FAS which does a quite good job!) ?

I intend to. I'm pushing a couple of other things presently which is helping
to get on familiar territory in hacking the kernel, but that's the aim.

IMHO, fas is a little bloated. It certainly is nice, but I'd prefer to start
with something a little simpler. It will, however, support 16550AFNs and
hardware flow control (I need both myself :-)). From looking at the current
kernel sources, it would appear that some further changes to the kernel would
be required to correctly support shared-IRQ between (logical) devices.

If anyone else is working or intends to work on a similar project, I'd like
to know. Either I can help, or they can help me (same difference) or maybe
I'm wasting my time if someone else has already got it under control...


david


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From: audit036@spacm1.spac.spc.com (David.L.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ACU.PKG
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:51:06 PDT
Organization: Security Pacific Automation Co., LA, CA

Someone posted a uuencoded ACU.PKG, a couple days back. Supposedly containing a
'smarter' getty (for in/out links). What archiver was used to make ACU.PKG ?

I've been unable to get at the getty ;^} ..
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---->	david@chaos.spc.com	OR	audit036@spacm1.spac.spc.com
David L.
From: kayvan@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Kayvan Sylvan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Can someone point me to a Linux info summary?
Date: 15 Apr 92 07:51:39 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Sylvan Associates

Could someone please point me to an FAQ or some kind of summary on
what Linux is and what it runs on?

I've been hearing very good things about it and am looking at running
Linux or BSD386 in the near future.

My current configuration is a 386/33Mhz with a 387, ESDI, 670+MB disk,
8Meg of memory, ET4000 + color monitor. I'm interested in getting the
gcc2.1 compilers (gcc, g++, ObjectiveC) up and running as well as the
X11R5 release on my 386. Is Linux the way to go?

Is it stable enough to be used for heavy duty development work? What
about mail/news with high-speed modems and serial ports? Does anyone
have FAS working on Linux?

Please Email responses and I'll summarize if there's enough interest.

			---Kayvan
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@romeo.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Has anyone thought about threads?
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:31:23 GMT

In article <1211@lysator.liu.se> nicolai@lysator.liu.se (Nicolai Wadstr|m) writes:
>drew@caesar.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt) writes:
>
>>In article <1200@lysator.liu.se> nicolai@lysator.liu.se (Nicolai Wadstr|m) writes:
>>>Has anyone given any thoughts on implementing threads in linux?
>>>I know it's not a standard UNIX feature, but it's were nice to
>>>write programs with threads, it's often possible to gain a lot
>>>of performance in using threads.
>>>(I've done a lot of OS/2 programming and just love the idea of 
>>>threads!)
>
>>fork()ing is the same thing as creating a heavy weight thread.
>>lightweight threads can be implemented with minimal modifications. 
>
>Ok, fork()ing isn't as straight forward to use, but accomplishes roughly
>the same thing, altough that approach has more overhead than if you
>would have an createthread() call (ex. createthread( stack, funcaddr ); ).
>If I'm right (I don't know that much about UNIX) fork makes another copy
>of the program, with a seperate data segment, I'm I right? 

Yes, depending on your definition of "copy".  In a modern Unix such as 
Linux, fork() uses COW (copy on write) pages.  The child gets a 
new task_struct, and has the page tables copied so that they reference
the same pages that are in the parent's address space.  However, the 
pages are not physically copied until the child actually tries to write
to one, and gets its own copy made.

The overhead is pretty close to a createthread() or whatever...

>With threads you still have access all the program data.
>
>>Interprocess communication can be accomplished with pipes,
>>or signals.
>
>>Hopefully, sysV shared memory and semaphores will be 
>>implemented too.
>
>Yeah, that would also be nice! But how about queues? If you
>are transfering bigger chunks between programs queues are much
>better than pipes! 
>(I know shared memory could be used for that, but queues are actually
>only a way to handle shared memory).
>

Agreed.  You generally use a pipe for redirection I/O to chain 
programs together, like within the Unix shell model.  Pipes are not
ideal for interprocess communication.

Other than Unix domain sockets and pipes, I'm not sure that Unix 
has a "queue", although this could be implemented with shared 
memory and semaphores.
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Swapfile vs. Swap partition
Keywords: Swap space
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:58:25 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'


----- News saved at 10 Apr 92 06:56:15 GMT
>>My question is which is  
>>preferable, using a partition for swap space or or a swapfile?
 
>The two are apparently about equivalent, I understand, as far as efficiency.
>A swap file is much easier to resize if your needs should change.

Not exactly true.  When you use a swapfile for swap, you are subject to the
vagaraties (and overhead) of whatever filesystem you are using, not to
mention the possible fragmentation.  A partition is almost always more
efficient in terms of swapping -- but isn't so easy to resize (especially
upwards!) if that becomes necessary.

The reason most OS vendors offer that option is because customers demanded
it -- and didn't necessarily mind (or care about) the inefficiency.

Oh, BTW -- please make sure your Folloup-To: lines contains a valid
newsgroup, instead of an email address.
-- 
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			Cupertino, CA		408/252-5947

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bir7@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ross Biro)
Subject: Config 95c+ uploaded to tsx-11
Summary: configc+.tar.z at tsx-11.mit.edu
Keywords: ethernet wd8003 config debugger
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:15:48 GMT

I just uploaded configc+.tar.Z to tsx-11.mit.edu.  It should appear
in a few hours, and it includes:

	An improved configuration system which allows the specification
of arbitary constants in the devs.conf file.

	The kernel debugger.

	The new keyboard driver which has provisions for remapping keys.

	A wd8003 ethernet driver.

	most of what you need to get ka9q working with the ethernet driver.

If anyone wants to write documentation, or wants to write programs to
use some of the new features of the keyboard driver, send me some
email.




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-----
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,alt.os.linux
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Compilers
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:09:01 GMT

In article <ktvj19INNf1r@alhena.usc.edu> ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>Come on... it's $130 for a 4 Meg SIMM.

Dell still charges $399 for their proprietary-format 4M SIMM.  :-((((

-Joel
(joel@wam.umd.edu)


Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:17:54 -0400 
From: "Scott R. Grabowski" <sg2j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: More hard drive questions....

Hello everyone,

I have been experimenting with Linux for about a month now from floppy,
and am considering installing it on my hard drive sometime over summer,
once I'm back home.  So far, I have been VERY impressed with the speed
of Linux.  Very nicely written.  Also, as an aside, my 486-33 runs fine,
with the exception below, at both 8MHz and 33MHz.  I know some people
were having problems at high speeds....  It's a TPE motherboard.  Real
nice.

Anyways, back to my problem.  If I use fdisk to attempt to read the
partition data off of my hard drive, it doesn't report anything, just
returns to the prompt.  Using pfdisk doesn't work either.  My questions
are:

1.  Does Linux support 2 drive controllers in 1 machine?  I have 2
controllers in mine (1 MFM, 1 RLL), and it runs fine under DOS (albeit
with a device driver to read the second controller)

2.  Does Linux read the hard drive data from CMOS?  I have to leave my
CMOS hard drive entries blank in order for the system to boot.  (Maybe
I'll try an AT controller board one of these days...)

3.  Is there anything else that I need to know to make a HD work?

Thanks.

And a HUGE thanks to Linus, and all the people porting software over to
Linux.  Can't wait to see X, with or without network support!  Any ideas
how long before at least a late alpha or beta release is available? 
(Size??  8-)

FYI - running bootimage .95c+ (from tsx-11)
              rootimage .95a  (    ""     )

4 MB memory
/dev/at0
/dev/PS1

1st hard drive: Miniscribe 10 MB with Omni controller (primary bootable)
2nd drive: Seagate 60MB (2 30MB partitions) with a WD RLL controller.

Oh, one other thing before I forget, is it possible to change the screen
size once the kernel has been loaded?  It would be nice to be able to
switch between 80x25, and 132x44 with a setterm option.  Just curious.

-Scott

Scott Grabowski                +  "I don't pretend to understand women's
sg2j@andrew.cmu.edu            +  little quirks, just one thing I know for
Physics is Phun!               +  sure, chicks dig jerks."  - great song!
From: burley@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Craig Burley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: GNU Fortran
Date: 16 Apr 92 07:47:47 GMT
Followup-To: LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Free Software Foundation 545 Tech Square Cambridge, MA 02139
In-reply-to: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk's message of 14 Apr 92 11:17:24 GMT

In article <4807@mccuts.uts.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc) writes:

   James Craig Burley, who is writing the GNU Fortran compiler,
   announced in a recent post that he is getting a machine to
   run Linux on.  I expect that those who like FORTRAN (yeugh!)
   will find the Linux version should work fairly well if JCB
   is doing the development on a Linux system.

This is optimistic for two reasons:

    1.  I'm getting my own machine primarily to do my own playing with OS
        R&D, windows development, new-technology compiler development, and
        suchlike, starting with Linux as a base, and hoping to contribute
        to Linux itself.  I _want_ the machine to also be a great platform
        for me to do Fortran-compiler development, but that might be asking
        too much; it might just serve as a really huge terminal for that
        particular job.  Or, the FSF might be lending a separate machine
        (68k based) for my Fortran work.

    2.  I still have no idea whether _any_ port of my Fortran compiler will
        "work fairly well".  Naturally, I'm very hopeful, but this is out-and-
        out the largest and longest coding job I've ever done with essentially
        no ongoing input or testing by other people.

But I hope your optimistic prediction proves correct!  After all, if my
machine (which I'm planning on ordering so it arrives in early May) finds
itself running Linux, gcc 2.1, and other such things quickly, then I will
probably use it to do Fortran stuff right away, and who knows, maybe the
compiler _will_ be fairly decent as it goes to alpha!

Nobody should bet their careers on it, though.  :-)

--

James Craig Burley, Software Craftsperson    burley@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Member of the League for Programming Freedom (LPF)
From: wang-i@acsu.buffalo.edu (Haohui Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: serial port in linux - and Problem
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:47:22 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <11853@tamsun.tamu.edu> ail8070@tamsun.tamu.edu (Andy I. Liaw) writes:
>Can someone please tell me how to set line in kermit?  My
>hayes compatible modem is set to COM1.  What is the device
>name for it?
>
>andy

It's /dev/ttys1.  

BTW - I have an internal modem configed at COM4.  I tried kermit, pcomm, 
but they wouldn't dial out, i can't even hear the tone. 

When I issue "dial 6202" in kermit, it says will timeout in 39sec, but it
gives up in 12sec with a timeout error.  Same with pcomm.

Can anybody help?

thanks

howie
From: zlsiial@uts.mcc.ac.uk (A. V. Le Blanc)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: GNU Fortran
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:17:24 GMT
Followup-To: LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Manchester

James Craig Burley, who is writing the GNU Fortran compiler,
announced in a recent post that he is getting a machine to
run Linux on.  I expect that those who like FORTRAN (yeugh!)
will find the Linux version should work fairly well if JCB
is doing the development on a Linux system.

     -- Owen
     LeBlanc@mcc.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: roberts@cray.com (Mike Roberts)
Subject: Disk full question
Organization: Cray Research, Inc., Chippewa Falls, WI
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:00:37 CDT

The other day I was uncompressing a file in /tmp 
and after a while uncompress just hung. In another
console I did a "df" and found that I had completely
filled my root partition. 

My question is: shouldn't the filesystem at least
send some sort of error code when a disk is full, or
is this a problem with compress/uncompress? 

I'm using 0.95c, gcc2.1, and the shared utilities in
2.1shared-A.tar.Z.

Mike Roberts
roberts@artgate.cray.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux