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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:33:00 EDT
From:         "Rita Leonard 552-3403 (617)"
 <LEONARD%BCVMCMS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      ggs provides the opening...

I was waiting for.  You are <so> accommodating, Gib!


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>                                                 I wish
>my spouse would say "my husband" seventeen times in one
>afternoon.
>--ggs (reminding you North Carolinians that today is the

I need to know.  How long does it take before the "my husband" rolls
trippingly off the tongue?  Ray and I have now been married for
25 days and the expression still sounds odd to me.  (This is the news
that I alluded to in an earlier post but couldn't seem to find the
right time to present.)

It is gratifying to note that Ray seems to have become comfortable with
the expression "my wife" quite readily.  I can hear some of you asking
'Who is she? and Who is Ray?'  Ask giggles.  (He *insisted* that I post
the news.)  Only a few clambake attendees who coaxed us out of lurker
status really know for sure.

Babble, babble, etc.  I could have just posted something like
"Hey guess what, I got married." but didn't want to be accused of
submitting one-line posts when I post so few!

                                  Rita L.
                                  LEONARD@BCVMCMS
From: TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815))
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Subject: Re: Mama Judith
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:08:00 GMT
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Welcome back, Ken, and join the "I didn't care for the survey
either" crowd.

Steve Karlson
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: garbage and bathrobes
Date: 27 Sep 1992 02:23:37 GMT
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In a previous article, ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM () says:

>>Now I *know* someone's seen Real Genius once too often!  If you tell me
>>those are fuzzy bunny slippers......<sigh>
>
>What, you think I look like Albert Einstein?  Mismatched socks, two
Actually, I was thinking more of Val Kilmer, with the antennae.:-)  Although
Einstein *was* kinda cute in a weird sort of way.....

>left shoes?  Not really.  And the slippers...they're some sort of
>deerskin goodies with pile linings that we probably ordered from the
>L. L. Bean catalogue.  Thing is they LOOK like big furry slippers.  If
>any animal rights types wanna know, yeah, I'm wearing Bambi's
>sister....
You and my father both - he has two pair of them.  Do yours have the rubber
soles?:-)  I go more for the Isotoner ballet-style slipper myself, or a
pair of prehistoric docksiders if they're handier.<grin>  The ventilated
type, if you will.  Probably Elsie's brother, once, or Elmer's son....



>
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:35:16 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: tushie baby.....
              29 Sep 1992 20:56:23 MST from <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>

Val does have his own list (VAL-L), but he is still on POLITICS@OHSTVMA.
He and I are running mates in the virtual election on POLITICS.

He also has 2 other lists (RUSHIST and SOVHIST).

Evelyn
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:15:18 -0600
From:         harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU
Subject:      Re: Mama Judith
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>	I, for one, thought the contest was an absolute piss!
>
>	I think words-l has forgotten how to laugh at itself (I trace
>the problem back to when it was decided how "nice" we all were -- what
>an icky word!).

Seconded. I loved the contest, did not think that the questions were
mean-spirited or designed to hurt feelings, and I enjoyed participating in
it. Sheesh, have we forgotten how to laugh at ourselves? Hope not, because
we have always been a group that enjoys talking about itself, first and
foremost.

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:06:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: Truth squad (was gleanings)

>  I'm still waiting to hear from Alec what
> jobs, odd or otherwise, that Bill Clinton had before beco.

Alec re-posted Slick Willie's bio from that dictionary of politics.
He was a law professor at some Arkansas law firm and in private
practice for a while.  That's not quite the same thing as founding an
oil company, but he hasn't been sucking at the public mammary all his
adult life.

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 15:12:00 EST
From:         "(Alec D. Plotkin)" <185422285@WILD.UCIS.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Blanket apology
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Apology accepted.


later

alec
From: N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (Gilbert Smith)
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Subject: Re: Ode to Judith
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:46:00 GMT
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> If the purpose is to impress judith, you'd better send it to judith.
> She doesn't live here anymore.
>
> --bayla (who's still forwarding snail mail to the previous owners of her
> new abode)

The purpose was not to *impress* judith, but to add my voice to those
who have said they miss her and consider her an important part of this
list.  I did send it to her, rather, I sent *them* to her, and I did
get a response.  I don't intend to comment any further about it.
--ggs
From: gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK (Graham Toal)
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Subject: re: Tushar's Test
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:04:57 GMT
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On Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:16:55 CDT, tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU wrote:
> Well, Graham is as clueless as before (or actually 90% so) but I really do
> think that abh is the most confused of the lot. When I picture her writing
> solemnly to Chris ... Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!

I trust people realise that the reason for Tushar's great perceptive
insight into the true identity of Santa Claus is that Tushar is the
*only* person on the list who knew it wasn't Tushar, and therefore
had a head start in identifying someone else...

I'm just waiting for the day when Tushar fakes mail from himself and
blames himself for the forgery...  (to be followed the next day by a
miraculous disappearing trick when he hides within his own navel...)

G
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Date: 2 Oct 1992 20:42:55 GMT
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In a previous article, harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU () says:

>>----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>>What's the deal? Can't I make sexist comments anymore!?!?!
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Sure, as long as you're well-insulated.
>>
>Typical male chauvanist remark!
>
Well, he could have said well-upholstered!  In which case, one of us
would have needed to do something unpleasant.  What say you, should I
throw some peanuts at him for old times' sake?

Ruth
in a spirit of nostalgia, longing for the days of yore....

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:25:41 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      DARE Status Report
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> you asked about the status of the work at dare.  Vol II, d thru h has been
> in the bookstores for about a year, fall 1991 anyway. Vol III, which is
> projected to go through the end of the letter "n" is due out 1996.  The
> Index to Dare, Vol I and II will be (i think will be) PADS 77, early next
> year, but then allan is better to ask about that.  you ask if you can
> post the reply to wordsL.  sure, post away.
> beth simon  blsimon@macc.wisc.edu

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:23:38 MED
From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      re: Tushar's Test
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	Steph? What's Steph?

How soon they forget...

G
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Diego Angel

Think this newbie will help divert attention from current problems.  Are
you all going to be nice to this person?  Or should I ask icky?  As for
having problems with people, I find that private "fighting, name calling,
what ever" while may not solve all problems, does seem to result in better
understanding of other people and a more tolerant attitude.  At least that
is my viewpoint and experience.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:11:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      HILLARY/MARILYN
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Both Hillary Clinton and Marilyn Quayle were in Raleigh
yesterday, at separate events.  The newpaper this morning
was a scream.  It reports that HC, in an attempt to prove
that she is as <family-oriented> as anybody, used the
expression "my husband" seventeen times during her
speech.  Marilyn, meanwhile, made reference to, among
other things, her (HC's) husband's draft non-record.
The front page of the Raleigh News and Observer was
lovely, with huge photos of the First Vice Lady and the
First Lady In Waiting.  I, personally, am <pulling> for...
you guessed it.... HC.  She is a living <doll>.  I wish
my spouse would say "my husband" seventeen times in one
afternoon.
--ggs (reminding you North Carolinians that today is the
       last day to register to vote.... democrat)
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:35:00 EST
From:         CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Re: The New Yorker

Greetings,

While I was at library school, I engaged in a bibliographic project that
required me to examine the first 30 years of The New Yorker (a task that
kept me in the deepest regions of the grad stacks at the University of
Illinois at Urbana-Champaign for many, many, dusty, dingy hours).  I
looked at the new format very closely over the weekend.  I think it is
very much in the spirit of the early years under Ross.

Marty
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:31:55 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: still a loser
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>   In actuality "Country" holds a pretty high position
> in our Company here at VMI and is quite respected.

Pray for peace.

Meanwhile, if you can bear with the brats tonight, I think the problem
will go away sometime tomorrow.  Action has been taken.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: TK0JUT1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Jim Thomas (tk0jut1@niu.bitnet))
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Subject: Shivvering in DeKalb???
Date: 3 Oct 92 05:50:00 GMT
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Steve shivvers his timbers bluely while bemoaing:

   >It's just past October, and it starts to get cold in northern
   >Illinois.  Light off the bonfire!

Uh, it was 81 degrees in downtown DeKalb today, Steve.
Ya might wanna save those matches and turn on the air conditioner
instead.

Jim (And steve even lives further south than I do) Thomas
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:56:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: More Past Blast
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> Greetings,
>
> Al Essa's is a voice of reason clearly missed.  If some intrepid soul
> undertook now the herculean task of shoveling the shit out of this Augean
> list-stable, he or she would reduce the volume considerably.  Offhand, I
> would guess the traffic would dwindle to roughly 15-20 messages a day--
> most of them signed by ggs, Tushar, and me.
>
> Marty

Very perceptive, Marty.  Ooooops, I said I wasn't going to udder
a <word>....
--ggs (tick-a-lock)
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:51:13 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Mensa test

>                           The object is to put the correct plus and
>minus signs in the equation to make it correct.
>
>0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 = 1

One way to think about it is to group adjacent numbers:

(0-1) (2-3) (4-5) (6-7) (8-9)

Each is a -1. Now if you subtract three -1s from two, you get a 1. So
for instance:

-(0-1)-(2-3)-(4-5)+(6-7)+(8-9) = 1

Now clean up:

0+1-2+3-4+5+6-7+8-9 = 1

Needless to say, in that intermediate step you can put the - and + signs
anywhere, which already gives a great many ways.

tushar
From: rita@EFF.ORG (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
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Subject: Re: Mama Judith
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:53:16 GMT
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              753-6980" at Oct 2, 92 1:48 pm

>
> Yes, and it's changed meaning over the years, too, if memory serves.

	Originally, didn't it mean "simple, stupid"?  Now it is
just what you say when your subject is so dull, no other adjective
fits.  Popular sentiment has it that the word "nice" in reference
letter is a for-sure killer.

Rita
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:33:57 EDT
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Japanese Lessons
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Posted on 29 Sep 1992 at 00:30:22 by torkel@SICS.SE
>Karen-san ga suki da ka mo shirenai...koko e kite,
>watashi ni nihonjin mo wakaru nihongo o oshiete, doo?)

*blush*

Karen
From: tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
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Subject: Re: Mama Judith
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:37:50 GMT
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>No, Tushar, this is e-space where I meet my friends for civilized conversation.
>This is the place where I feel least-obliged to have a separate persona, and
>having met many of the people on the list, I prefer this, thank you very much.

This will lead to a pretty rambling discussion about "persona"s etc, which
will probably get pretty boring and not very rewarding. Let's talk about it
some other time. (When this beginning-of-term paperwork is done and when my
courses settle into a steady pace :-) )

>I don't mind *your* being schizophrenic, but it *does* get wearing, and I have
>to remind myself it isn't really the sweet Tushar that I know and love, but
>some bozo you are playing at being.

But you haven't met me. You haven't even talked to me on the phone! So whom
do you know and love?

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:22:57 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: FAtNQ
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> Just wanted to bring to your notice that "Frequently Asked-to-Natalie
> Questions" did not evoke a Frequently Asked-by-Natalie Question.

What?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:24:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Anne on faked addresses
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> The Lob seems to have disappeared, where are you, Chris?
>
> rashmi

He's in church, on his <knees>, praying for forgiveness for having
been nasty to somebody sweet.
--ggs
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: He's baaaaack!
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> If anyone hasn't yet heard, Ross Perot is back in the race.
>
> Steve Karlson

Hmmmm. Is his race utilizing the lifted tack?
Doris
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 23:34:19 PDT
From:         s mandell <pwiebe@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject:      t-shirts?
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In a previous article, pwiebe@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU (s mandell) says:

>SZZ[?1;0
Then Ruth who fights for amont other things, static-free lines says:

They were destroyed in a transporter accident - All-Amazon atoms are
scattered
bewteen here and Alpha Centuri.:)
Or is that what you were asking?  Your signal had some crud in it that
our
communications officer was unable to filter off....


That's what I get for using a different mailer.  I forgot how to get
out.  I wasn't even sure if I'd managed to attach some very boring
personal email on the end.  What a relief.  only a cosmetic e-oops.
S
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 07:45:55 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blinking Lights
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On Sat, 26 Sep 1992, Nancy Harwood wrote:

> the ticket anyway...this led to a lecture about scofflaws from attorney
> husband (the one who drives with a fuzzbuster on trips).

In my experience, there are no faster drivers than attorneys, unless they
are attorneys who are also politicians.

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:10:47 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Something (somewhat) serious.

>Tushar, or any body with mathematical or physicistical leanings, what is
>potential energy and how is it measured? Is it what you would get if you
>could split all the atoms in an object?  Am I close?

I have never had a physics course, so this is a layperson's account.

Potential energy is the energy "stored" in a body due to work done on
it. So if you lift a 1 kg stone up by a meter, the stone will have
GAINED a potential energy of <blah> Joules. (blah is 9.8, I think.)
If you drag a piece of iron away from a magnet, you will be doing
work, thereby making the iron piece gain potential energy. Only now
this will be called "magnetic" potential energy instead of gravitational,
as in the case of the stone.

If you let a stone go, it will have DONE work (e.g. it might have moved
a turbine - silly, but let's assume it) so that it will LOSE potential
energy.

Notice that people speak only in terms of gains and losses of potential
energy, not potential energy itself. Basically, PE of a body is defined
only with reference to an "origin", e.g. in case of gravitational PE, you
might decide that ground level is zero PE, and that would be fine as long
as you stick to it.

The reason why it is fine to take any origin is a version of the law of
conservation of energy: (PE + "other energy") is always constant. I know
this is rather damn vague, but there isn't any better way of putting it
in this situation.

Viewed this way, PE is really just a quantity added to "other energy" just
so's the sum remains constant. And indeed, PE *is* really a bookkeeping
term added to equations to keep things simple.

PE is a very general notion (i.e. you can have "magnetic" or "electrical"
or "nuclear" potential energy). It has nothing specifically to do with
the energy released by smashing an atom. Insofar as the various energy
terms involved in the smash will include a bookkeeping term, "PE" is
released, but that's a really misleading way of putting it.

To "measure" PE is to measure differences in PE. This is done by measuring
all other gains and losses in energies, and figuring how much a body will
have to lose or gain to make things come out even. That's PE. I am serious.

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:27:20 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      VAL-L
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              at Sep 29, 92 10:52 pm

> want totell others, who is valentine smith (real or not) and what is
> val-l (real or not) and did he really get run off hist. and polisci.

	He really exists.  His nom d' keyboard is derived, of course,
from _Stranger in a Strange Land_, but I even know who he really is.
(I won't tell, cuz he asked me not to.)  He's a true net.character --
sometimes reasonable, sometimes nutty.  He reminds me a little of Don.
Valentine writes desperately since he supposedly has a some sort of
progressive lung disease that is killing him.  I don't think he's ever
been on words-l -- I don't imagine this his type of list.


> And who is mamaprimate that so many miss, and is she the smae
> as judith who escaped from listtorture and listtyranny.

	Yes, mamaprimate is love judith (who I miss terribly also).

Rita
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