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From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Weird disk corruption (tar off msdos partition)
Date: 4 Oct 92 07:28:03 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <lct1i3INN31p@ozona.cs.utexas.edu> jefftep@cs.utexas.edu (Jeffrey Grills) writes:
>
>  maxtor 7213a hd (never had any timeouts)
>
>I think there is some underlying problem.  I've had tons of things weird 
>happen that have never had real solutions discovered for.  For instance,
>I think but cannot verify the following accusations:
>
>  I've compared 2 files multiple times, getting 3 different results from cmp
>  I'm one of the people that gets Signal 11 from gcc/cc1 (still on occasion)
>  I've had the kernel complain about "swap weirdness" once (something like that)
>  I've done the cat|uncompress|tar thing and had tar complain about a bad input
>    file, only to try it again, with no changes, and have it work fine

Definitely sounds like the buffer corruption problem with older maxtor
7213A's. 

Here is an excerpt from a post by swaliff@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Steve Aliff):
>
> Some of you may have been following my trials and tribulations with
> a Maxtor 7213A under Linux. I spoke with Maxtor tech support today,
> and they agreed that there was a problem with early 7213As and the
> commercial variants of Unix (Xenix, SCO). If you have a 7213A whose
> PCBA number is less than 63, then you may have a problem with it
> under Linux. My present drive's PCBA number is 54. (The PCBA number
> is their revision tracking number of the on-board controller board.)
> The PCBA number is listed on the label on top of the drive.

Upgrading to a newer 7213A helped at least Steve.

		Linus
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk (Anthony Lovell)
Subject: Pascal compiler needed 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Home for Three Headed Canines
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:51:21 +0000

An other solution would be to use p2c to convert the pascal interpreter
source so that you can compile it ,then you might have a working pascal
or not

Denise why the change of major ,got sick of Bio :)

anthony

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From: swaliff@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Steve Aliff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SCSI Controller Recommendations?
Summary: Looking for one to run a Wangtek 5150 tape drive.
Keywords: SCSI, tape.
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:25:55 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond


I'm purchasing a Wangtek 5150ES tape drive in hopes of making it
work with Linux (It's the one from comp.unix.bsd/
misc.forsale.computers if anyone really cares). I don't have a SCSI
controller yet and am looking for recommendations.  I know this
drive will work with the Adaptec 1542B under 386BSD. So if need be,
that looks like a good combination to try to make fly under Linux.
However, I'd really like something cheaper for the moment. I don't
suppose by some miracle the ST-01 works with tapes?  (the cheapest
SCSI controller card I know of)

If anyone knows of a good source for the 1542B, that would be nice
info to have.

TIA,
-- 
Steve Aliff (swaliff@afterlife.ncsc.mil [144.51.1.1])
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: minyard@bnr.ca (Corey Minyard)
Subject: Re: video card survey -- generic Tseng Labs card description
Keywords: linux, X11, video
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:57:13 GMT

I found what I thought to be a great deal.  I have an STB Powergraph
Combo.  It has an ET4000 with 800x600 32k color and 1024x768 256 color,
interlaced and non-interlaced.  I use the 1024x768 interlaced mode, and
its not bad (except when certain uncommon patterns are displayed).  
It also has:

    Floppy controller
    IDE hard disk controller
    Two serial ports
    Parallel port
    Bus mouse port

And it cost ~$129.  If you need to free up some slots in your system,
this might be the way to go.

Corey
minyard@bnr.ca
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Corey Minyard
From: gbh@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (GBH)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: QUESTION...  Problem with installing GCC
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:24:49 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

OK I have everything from the GCC directory at
tsx-11.mit.edu and I read through the readme 
which directed me to the ChangeLog file which
tells how to install it.

Well when I ran the script from the lib41.tar
to install the library it gave me a whole lot
of errors after asking me if I had a 387.

I tried it both saying yes and no
I am running a 486-33DX

the result is that it doesn't create th
the Libraries

libm 4.0
libc 4.1

Any help would be greatly thanked!!!

gbh@ksu.ksu.edu
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From: eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil (Eric Youngdale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 600Meg CD's and file systems
Date: 1 Oct 92 04:30:32 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory

In article <1992Sep30.221746.22064@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
>I need to setup file systems on 600Meg CD's, this would require 10
>normal Minix partitions :-) Unfortunitly thats kind of yucky expecially
>if I need to mount all of them when a CD is changed. Will the Extended
>FS support 600meg disks? 

	I am extremely confused about why you would want to do this the way
you are suggesting.  There is a standard filesystem, ISO9660, that is well
established for cdroms, and there is a linux iso 9660 filesystem which will
read these disks, which is available from tsx-11.mit.edu in
pub/linux/ALPHA/cdrom.

	There is also an extension to the iso 9660 standard, called Rock Ridge,
which allows you to specify unlimited length linux-syntax filenames, file modes
and ownership, symlinks, block and character devices and deep directories.
The linux iso9660 filesystem is able to make use of these extensions,

	Could you explain why you need to use the minix or extfs filesystem
on a cdrom???

-- 
Eric Youngdale
eric@tantalus.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jrs@world.std.com (Rick Sladkey)
Subject: Re: setserial for 0.97.pl6
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:55:27 GMT

>>>>> On 26 Sep 92 21:34:21 GMT, whitney2@husc10.harvard.edu
>>>>> (Wayne Whitney) said:

Wayne> I'm running 0.97pl6 and just recently got a dumb terminal, so now I
Wayne> need setserial to set up my modem as 0x3e8 IRQ 5.  I grabbed the
Wayne> setserial.tar.Z from tsx-11.mit.edu under sources/sbin, and recompiled
Wayne> it, but the resulting binary complains that all of the ttys devices
Wayne> are busy when I try to change the settings (it reads the settings OK).

As you suspected, setserial.c needs to be recompiled for patchlevel 6.  But,
in addition there is a minor bug in the new serial code in the kernel that
keeps setserial from working correctly even after recompilation.

Here is a patch that fixes the problem:

*** linux/kernel/chr_drv/serial.c.orig	Mon Sep 21 22:29:24 1992
--- linux/kernel/chr_drv/serial.c	Mon Sep 21 23:59:24 1992
***************
*** 571,576 ****
--- 571,580 ----
  	irq = ISR->irq;
  	if (irq == 2)
  		irq = 9;
+ 	if (!new_irq)
+ 		new_irq = irq;
+ 	if (!new_port)
+ 		new_port = info->port;
  	if (irq != new_irq) {
  		/*
  		 * We need to change the IRQ for this board.  OK, if
***************
*** 582,588 ****
  			sa.sa_flags = (SA_INTERRUPT);
  			sa.sa_mask = 0;
  			sa.sa_restorer = NULL;
! 			retval = irqaction(irq,&sa);
  			if (retval)
  				return retval;
  		}
--- 586,592 ----
  			sa.sa_flags = (SA_INTERRUPT);
  			sa.sa_mask = 0;
  			sa.sa_restorer = NULL;
! 			retval = irqaction(new_irq,&sa);
  			if (retval)
  				return retval;
  		}
***************
*** 608,613 ****
--- 612,618 ----
  		if (ISR->next_ISR)
  			ISR->next_ISR->prev_ISR = ISR;
  		IRQ_ISR[new_irq] = ISR;
+ 		ISR->irq = new_irq;
  	}
  	cli();
  	if (new_port != info->port) {
--
Rick Sladkey
jrs@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: root@cicero.IN-Berlin.DE (Martin Mueller)
Subject: Help: /lib/libc2.2.2
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:57:27 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi,

no matter which X-Programm i try to link (I got them as *.a files) I always
get the message "       /lib/libc2.2.2" when run them.
If I compile non X-Progs from soucecode everything works fine. I havn't tried
to compile X-Progs from source cause I havn't any.

Many thanks in advance
              Martin
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ketil@spurv.ii.uib.no (Ketil M. Malde)
Subject: Re: NJ/SML
Reply-To: ketil@ii.uib.no
Organization: student of computer science at the University of Bergen, Norway
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:30:43

In article <1992Sep28.213612.10542@cs.rose-hulman.edu> mgrjtb@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu writes:

   [...]
   I don't have time to keep up with this group, use my Linux machine
   and eat, so please send e-mail.

Isn't this a problem for most of us?  Perhaps it is time for a split?
Something like, *.bugs, *.help, *.dev[elopment]  and perhaps *.tech,
*.programming and/or *.hardware

Would make things somewhat more manageable... also, is there a FAQ?

No flames, please, I *know* you use a sh*tty newsreader who can't
handle a) more groups, b) crosspostings but only kill-files..but I
don't.



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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: prv2d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Peter Villadsen)
Subject: Re: Problems with KA9Q and SLIP
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:00:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.220934.9115@vax.oxford.ac.uk> tony@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>In article <Sep.25.21.52.33.1992.4856@athos.rutgers.edu>, hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) writes:
>> prv2d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Peter Villadsen) writes:
>> 
>>>   We recently have installed a number of high-speed dialin
>>>modems that run off a cisco server that supports SLIP. I
>>>am attempting to use ka9q to establish a SLIP connect thru
>>>my UNIX box at home. Here are the details:
>>>   My setup is as follows:   386/25 8 megs of RAM
>>>                             65meg Linux Partition
>>>                             Supra V32bis running on serial
>>>                                          line #2
>> 
>> You have two symptoms: 
>>  - connections open but then hang
>>  - you can't get to certain destinations.
>> 
>> 1) I suspect that you have incompatible settings for compression or
>> MTU.  Unless you are running the very latest Cisco software (which is
>> still in beta), you probably don't have support for compressed Slip.
>> Please check the "attach" command.  It should say
>> 
>>   attach asy 0 /dev/... slip sl0 2048 1500 <speed>
>> 
>
   This was indeed the problem - changing cslip to slip resulted in  
almost perfect operation. I say 'almost' as the following problems
occur:
   It seems that I cannot ping machines that are rather far away.
This is also the case where users try to ftp to my site. I have had
success from as far away as Florida and Ontario, but Texas and
Oregon fail. Any ideas why this is so? I cam successfully ftp to
sunsite.unc.edu ;)
   Also, I am having trouble starting the telnet server (ie: start
telunix. After I start it, and try to telnet to my machine, the
connection is immediately closed. Is there anything I need to do
in addition to starting telunix? The FTP server works dandy (though
pretty slow w/o cslip - I get about 1.5-1.7Kb/sec).

   Thanks for all the help, 

   Peter


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gt7080a@peking.eecom.gatech.edu (Nathan I. Laredo)
Subject: Re: xv under Trident/X11v2.0 beta - anyone?
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 14:50:33 GMT

In article <43525@ogicse.ogi.edu> jbthiel@ogicse.ogi.edu (John B. Thiel) writes:
> X2.0 (Xfree86-1.0Ya)
>Does anyone have xv running under this configuration? I have tried

I've announced this before, but I've compiled xv to use the new
jump tables (from scratch), as well as the newest available version
of X... (listed above)  It's considerably smaller than it was
before, mostly because of the use of shared libs.  I've also included
xdaliclock since when I compiled that one it was only 29k (after linking
with the new shared libs)

Both work on my machine... (isn't that all that counts)

They should appear on tsx-11 sometime (may be there already)
as xv+xdali.tar.Z and are available now on sunsite.unc.edu as
/pub/Linux/Incoming/xv+xdali.tar.Z

xv also seems faster now than it was before under X1.1 but that
could also be related to the speedups, but I like to think that the
compiler is better.

-- Nathan Laredo, nathan@eas.gatech.edu
-- 
Nathan I. Laredo, nathan@eas.gatech.edu
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, Georgia,  30332
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ede@kadabra.osf.org (Ted Ede)
Subject: Re: is RLL SOL?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:19:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.200508.4413@unislc.uucp> erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
>Seth Chaiklin (psykseth@aau.dk) wrote:
>
>: I have looked in the various INSTALL docs, and the FAQ (from July) and nary
>: a peep about whether Linux can be installed on an RLL drive.
>: There was a peep that MFM, ESDI and SCSI were possible, so perhaps by
>: implcations RLL is out of the running.
>: 
>: Anyway, I have this wonderful ST-238R which Linux 0.97.11 could not read
>: (according to fdisk).  Am I doomed to live on floppies (or find a rich uncle)?
>: 
>: [As a newcomer to Linux, I can only give my naive praise at how easy
>: it was to install on the floppies and how exhilirating it was to
>: watch it come up.  I am sure it has been said thousands of times
>: before, and probably more elegantly, but I could also guess that the
>: people who work on it don't get so tired of hearing it. (-: ]
>
>I've run 0.96c on an RLL controller, so linux does, indeed, support RLL drives

The problem you are having is probably with a cheesey 8 or 16 bit
controller.  I had a wd1002-27x (cheesey 8 bit controller).  I was
told I needed a real 16 bit controller, so I bought a Seagate ST21R
(16 bit) controller.  It had a lousy BIOS and didn't work.  I finally
bought a Western Digital wd1006 off of a guy on the net.  It works
like a champ.  Find yourself a wd1006 or clone and you'll be all set.

Another thing to note.  If you're having problems with this controller
and you have a newer bios, you're probably telling your BIOS that drive C
is not installed.  The BIOS on your older controller is causing this.

When I installed my new card and low-level formatted, my system BIOS
(AMI) got drive C set to type 1.  It doesn't match my disk, an st238r,
but at least linux recoginizes it.  I have no idea why this happens,
if anyone has any clues I'm all ears.

Since I'm not the first one to run into this, the subject may be FAQ-
worthy.  

cheers,
ted

   Ted Ede -- ted@world.std.com -- on contract at the Open Software Foundation
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (X X)
Subject: Anyone tried X11 2.0 with 8514/A card ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:25:51 GMT

Im running a graphics vantage card now.  I was wondering if anyone has gotten
this card or the graphics ultra running with X11 2.0.

Dennis Robinson
From: tdunbar@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Xclock configuration worksheet
Date: 26 Sep 92 12:31:45 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA


 clocks.exe can be mislead by ur dos video card util: if i use vmode on 
my speedstar and set the monitor to nec5fgx, the clocks are very wrong.
setting the monitor to fixed lets clocks work correctly. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: Re: 600Meg CD's and file systems
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:26:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.032919.4968@news.acns.nwu.edu> hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) writes:
>Well, EFS2 will have a bitmap instead.

Good ;-)
When does it come out?

>But really, when you write CD's, do you mean CD-ROM?  If so, the ISO9660
>and Rock Ridge file systems have been ported to Linux although they are not
>in the default kernel.

No these are read/write CD's, basically they are supposed to look like
hard drives. Does the CD_ROM file system support read/write?

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From: ucosmo@mcl.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Writing Linux disks on Sun
Keywords: sun
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:22:39 GMT

I was just curious if someone had a solution to this problem.  It seems that
you can only write DOS disks on a Sun Sparc if you are root and can mount a
DOS floppy.  Does someone have an alternate solution?  Linux can't read a
disk tarred on a Sun, can it?

--
     - Boris
(cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu)
From: simonich@uservx.plk.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Logitech bus mouse sub-optimal performance
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:16:28 GMT
Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB

In article <1992Oct03.150736.29595@bnr.ca>, minyard@bnr.ca (Corey Minyard) writes:
> In article <1992Oct2.181244.36219@uservx.plk.af.mil> simonich@uservx.plk.af.mil writes:
>>System configuration:
>>
>>     386sx w/387
>>     Seagate ST-02 using IRQ 5
>                           ^^^^^
> 
> This is probably your problem.  The bus mice generally use interrupt 5.
> Therefore, when you enabled your bus mouse interrupt, it probably disabled
> your hard disk controller interrupt.  Remember, you can't have two things
> on the same interrupt in a PC.  Also, it probably works OK under mess-dos
> since the ST-02 DOS drivers don't use interrupts.
> 
> Corey Minyard
> minyard@wf-rch.cirr.com
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Corey Minyard

The problem is the use of IRQ 5.  The kernel busmouse.c
has IRQ 5 hard coded in.  Changing it to use IRQ 2
eliminates the conflict with the SCSI controller.
Unfortunaty, IRQ 2 is in use and the open of /dev/bm
returns EBUSY.  Thefore, I removed my serial I/O card,
and changed the interupt on the mouse card and in the 
kernel to IRQ 3, recompiled, and --- IT WORKED ---.  Now on to Xfree86      

Thanks to all who helped.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Vote for standard directory (was Re: Official version?)
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 08:37:40 GMT


In article <1992Oct1.071957.13357@muddcs.claremont.edu>
jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.144248.11602@cc.tut.fi> jk87377@cc.tut.fi
>(Juhana Kouhia) writes:
>>
>>Flame war on /usr/local is not organizing.
>
>I never said it was.  Please do not try and put words in my mouth.

Never happened; you understood wrong.

Ok, now I know there really is standard directory structure.
Also, I know people have different opinions.
Only solution to decide what is the correct structure, is to vote for
it as in Real Life.
If we don't vote or somebody doesn't act like dictator and decide it
for us, we never get the solution.
Vote is better.

Vote candidates:
1. Directory.7 by Michael Johnson
Any other candidates?
All candidates may be sent to me to jk87377@cs.tut.fi.
I will post them to this group in one article; I edit them
if I see that it is needed to present different choises for
individual directory at the same lines.
(See notes below also.)


>For a look at the 'device standard', my
>/dev/MAKEDEV is consistent with the MCC release and the 'official'
>root/boot disk combination, so it could be considered a de facto
>standard.

So, we don't have to vote for that -- I will anyway check if somebody
would like to get other structure (for example, /dev/mt/ was not in
directory.7).


There's no hurry with this, so you have a week or so time
to make the candidates.
It is not necessary to make the whole directory structure for your
candidate suggestion; if you would like to suggest only one directory
to be made/deleted then it is ok. Just write a description for the
directory and/or reason for the creation/deletion.

If my instructions sounds blurry, then note me about it
and I will waste more time in writing instructions.


Juhana Kouhia
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: smace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Mace)
Subject: Slow SCSI Disk performance.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:02:33 GMT


I have noticed that the performance of both of my scsi drives really
hurts.  With 'iozone' I am registering about 65K/sec.  I beleive that my
system is transfer 1  1Kblock per revelution (3600 RPM drive).  In dos I
was getting rates of about 500K per second, this is more like whatit
should be considering that my disk can to about 7.5 Mbits /sec.  Is
there any patch to fix this problem, if not are there any "beta" patches
for this problem, I would be willing to help test them.

Thanks

Scott Mace
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wyvern@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Wyvern)
Subject: man(1) bug?
Summary: setgid catman pages
Keywords: man, setgid
Organization: Free Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:27:31 GMT

While examining the the formatted manpages in /usr/man/cat? the other day
I came across a rather nasty-appearing bug:
The formatted man pages are owned by the person who invoked man for that
page, but are of the group 'daemon'. I tried something:

% man 1 ls
% cd /usr/man/cat1
% ls -l ls.1.Z
-rw-rw-r--   1 user1    daemon      3944 Jul  4 15:35 ls.1.Z
% cat /bin/cat > ls.1.Z
% chmod 2777 ls.1.Z
% ls -l ls.1.Z
-rwxrwsrwx   1 user1    daemon      3780 Jul  4 15:35 ls.1.Z
% su
Password:
# echo foo > /tmp/test
# chown root.daemon /tmp/test
# chmod 640 /tmp/test
# ls -l /tmp/test
-rw-r-----   1 root    daemon          4 Jul  4 15:35 test
# exit
% ./ls.1.Z /tmp/test
foo
% 

This allows anyone to have the priveleges of the daemon group very easily.
Is there a simple solution I'm overlooking for this apparent problem?


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alawrenc@sobeco.com (a.lawrence)
Subject: NEW: Support for Canadian French (CF) Keyboard
Reply-To: alawrenc@sobeco.com
Organization: Lawrence & Assc.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 21:16:00 GMT
Keywords: kernel keyboard french patch

I have just added support of the Canadian French keyboard to the
097pl6 kernel.  I will be sending the patch to Linus in a few days
when I certain that the changes are stable.  So far it is working
smoothly.   

If anyone would like to try it out, please e-mail a request for
the patch to  alawrenc@sobeco.com.



-- 
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