HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: How do I resubscribe to old (unsubscribed) news groups?
Keywords: nn
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:22:35 GMT
Reply-To: bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin)
Organization: The Westrheim Group, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson) writes:

: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:

: >What I usually do is go to the specific group I want, and then hit
: >shift-U, it will ask if I want to resubscribe. You can probably do this
: >just as quick by editing the .newsrc like you do, but then you don't
: >have to leave nn.

: >James

: The only problem is that this assumes you know that name of the group
: you want to join. Want I'm asking for, although I don't think it is
: available, is a full screen display of all groups, something like the
: :show command, where you can pick which groups you want to join. With
: the G command you have to have an idea of what groups are out there to
: know which ones to go to. When I first joined nn, I unsubscribed to all
: groups (there was something like 1800 groups available). Then I went
: back (using an editor), scaned what was available, and turned on those
: groups. It would have been nice to be able to do that from within nn, so
: that I didn't have to know that a ! ment unsubscribed, and : ment
: subscribed. Even now, after going though the .newsrc file 20-30 times, I
: still find using the G command hard because I just can't remember what
: the names of all the groups are. Even if this was a program other than
: nn, that would be a nice option.

Whenever I want to see a list of all the groups I do the
following:

:post
?
/xenix

The last line will search all newsgroup names and description
lines for the regexp.  I find this very handy.
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From: pb@idca.tds.philips.nl (Peter Brouwer)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: nn mailheader parsing problem
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:18:20 GMT
Reply-To: pb@idca.tds.philips.nl (Peter Brouwer)
Organization: Digital Equipment Enterprise B.V.,Apeldoorn,The Netherlands.

X-Disclaimer: This opinion is mine alone

I experienced problems when using nn to look through mailfolders ( and my
mailbox ). 
The first line in my mail header contains a line from the local mailer.
This line is parsed by nn to see what kind of messages there are in the folder.
For the mail header the syntax is ( by nn )
From name day month hh:mm:ss [TZ] year.

My local mailer does not list the seconds in the time. This causes nn to fail
to recognize the mail header.

I added the following path to digest.c

112,117d111
< 	/* some local mailers don't use the seconds field! */
< 	if ( isspace(*lp) && n == 5 )
< 	{
< 		n++;
< 		*fp++ = "00";
< 	}

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: dermoudy@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au (Julian Dermoudy)
Subject: Re: News header field "Organization"
Keywords: Organization, header field, define my own
Reply-To: J.R.Dermoudy@cs.utas.edu.au
Organization: University of Tasmania, at Hobart.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:02:40 GMT

In <kenneth.724506700@hp825> kenneth@hp825.bih.no (Kenneth Fosse) writes:

>Hi, all.
>I use nn6.4.18 and NNTP to read news. I posted a test message
>to no.test, the Organization field showed up as the
>organization at the other end of my NNTP connection.
>How/where do I insert/define my own pre-defined
>headers, like Organization (X-Organization ?),
>X-Fax and so on ?
>Thanks.
>Kenneth Fosse
>kenneth@bih.no

In the ".nn" directory situated in your home directory create (or edit if it
already exists) a file called "init".  Anywhere in the file (but above the
"sequence" line if there is one) put a line of the form:

set news-header X: y

where "X" is a header field you want to set and "y" is the value you want it
set to.  Multiple fields can be set on the same line using a ";" to separate
them.

My own file includes:

set news-header Reply-To: J.R.Dermoudy@cs.utas.edu.au;Organization: University of Tasmania, at Hobart.

There is also an analogous "mail-header" variable.  RTFM for more details.

						-Julian.

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From: bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: top line of article is getting underlined when it shouldn't
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:07:28 GMT
Reply-To: bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin)
Organization: The Westrheim Group, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

gerald@torolab4.vnet.ibm.com (Gerald Oskoboiny) writes:

: For some strange reason, when I page down through an article with the
: space bar, the top line of text always appears completely underlined.

: If I then press "c" (compress), the underline disappears. If I page
: up through the article with "u", the underline doesn't appear.

: I have "scroll-last-lines" set to 7, and if it scrolls the last few lines
: of the article instead of redrawing them, the underline doesn't appear.

: Any ideas? Here are the (relevant) settings from my ~/.nn/init file:

:       set header-lines _FOD=SKYW=n
:       set noscroll-clear-page
:       set scroll-last-lines 7
:       set long-menu
:       set overlap 1

Here is what I have set and I AM getting the top two lines
underlined.

* mark-overlap              = off
* mark-overlap-shading      = on

Perhaps if you unset mark-overlap-shading it will stop
underlining the overlap when you scroll.
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert)
Subject: Re: sorting by date within subject?
Organization: Twin Sun, Inc
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:45:30 GMT

gst@spdcc.com (Gary S. Trujillo) writes:

>I find that (using the default "subject" sorting order) the order of articles
>within each subject is essentially random, as far as I can tell.

This is often due to a bug in pack_date which causes time zone info to
be mis-applied.  Most of this bug will be patched when NN 6.4.19 comes
out.  If you can't wait until then, here's a quick workaround:

*** nn6.4.16/pack_date.c	1991/04/17 08:32:40
--- nn-patch/pack_date.c	1992/12/17 14:42:56
***************
*** 256,262 ****
      res *= 24 * 60;
      res += (hour * 60) + min;
  
!     return res + tzone(date);
  }
  
  
--- 256,262 ----
      res *= 24 * 60;
      res += (hour * 60) + min;
  
!     return res - tzone(date);
  }
  
  
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: lwj@cs.kun.nl (Luc Rooijakkers)
Subject: Re: Is nov (news overview) support planned for NN?
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:27:43 GMT

In <s1#r-j-@lynx.unm.edu> caadams@polaris.unm.edu (Clifford A Adams) writes:

>Is someone willing to add the nov support to NN?

This has been discussed by the nn maintainers, and there is interest in
it. The problem is that it takes some work, and is a big backwards
compatibility headache. What basically needs to be done is to scrap the
old database alltogether and start work on nn 6.5. However, nov doesn't
work over NNTP yet, and there is no precise equivalent of nnmaster yet
(or so I think). Also, nov does not currently provide all of the functionality
nn wants (in particular, it doesn't always count the lines).

One approach that has been suggested is to put big #ifdefs around the
old/new code, but this will make a mess. A different approach would
be to make a pseudo-nov accessing the old database. Nobody has
volunteered yet to do it.

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: f89-kam@dront.nada.kth.se (Klas Mellbourn)
Subject: expert mode result?
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:32:16 GMT

Exactly which pieces of information is left out when you set the
'expert' variable? 

I would like as concise a status line as possible, leaving out the 
'?:help' bit, but the manual doesn't tell me what else I will be
missing, and my experience tells me that in computing, what you don't
know CAN hurt you.
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From: au141@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Amber M. Spillers)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: has anyone ported NN to 386BSD?
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:39:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au141@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Amber M. Spillers)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


   I have been trying (unsuccessfully) to run NN on 386 BSD.  I got
through the compile and all with few problems and got it to install
itself to the proper directories.  I had a few problems with the
permissions on the directories but a quick look at the source cleared
that up.  unfortunately AFTER I build my MASTER file and I try to run nn
it core dumps. :(  I have not gone digging in the code (nor tried to
compile it with debug code) to see why, I was just wondering if anyonme
has successfully gotten this package running under BSD386.


-- Amber

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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: Can I have nn alert me of incoming mail?
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:21:09 GMT

mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

>I didn't see this in the faq.
>
>Is there a way to have nn alert me of incoming mail like rn does?
>For instance, when mail comes in, there would just be a "(Mail)"
>sitting on the status line at the bottom...

To let nn notify you of new mail just set the variable "mail" to your
mailbox file within your nn init file ($HOME/.nn/init).
(Well, I think this does it.)

Example:

$HOME/.nn/init:
set mail /var/spool/mail/guckes

Neither did I see this in the FAQ nor the manual.
Sven :)
From: tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Can I have nn alert me of incoming mail?
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:46:00 GMT
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN

guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes:

: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

: >Is there a way to have nn alert me of incoming mail like rn does?
: >For instance, when mail comes in, there would just be a "(Mail)"
: >sitting on the status line at the bottom...

: To let nn notify you of new mail just set the variable "mail" to your
: mailbox file within your nn init file ($HOME/.nn/init).
: (Well, I think this does it.)

Nope.

: set mail /var/spool/mail/guckes

This allows you to type ":rmail" and read your new mail messages.  It
doesn't notify you of new mail.

--tom
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: veatch@cs.toronto.edu (Tim Veatch)
Subject: Saving compressed files
Organization: Toronto
Fake-Sender: "Tim Veatch" <veatch@cs.toronto.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:04:20 GMT

Does anyone have a good macro for saving files in compressed
format within nn?

What I would like is the following...

After I hit a button to save and have entered a file name...
the macro would do:
	if the file exists then
		if it's in compressed format then
			uncompress the file
			append the text
			compress the file
		else
			append the text
		endif
	else
		save the text in compressed format
	endif

I know this uncompress/compress routine seems like a waste,
but it would save me some time and allow me to keep my disk
space low.

Can anybody help?

Also, if anyone's got a good set of nn macros around that
they are willing to send me, please do.  The examples would
help me learn how to write my own!

Thanx in advance.
From: f89-kam@alv.nada.kth.se (Klas Mellbourn)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: some questions
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:00:03 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

I've recently switched from rn to nn, in general it seems to be a very
versatile program, but I have a few questions about it. 

In the init file, is there a way to make an action on the way out of a
newsgroup? For instance, I would like to set the header so that it
shows the keywords when I read rec.humor.funny, AND reset the header
when I've read that group.

When you have set new-group-action to 4, is there a way to make nn append
new UNsubscribed groups to the .newsrc with the exclamation mark afterwards,
instead of just leaving the groups out?
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: ? Visual indicator for "has already been selected by kill file"
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:38:16 GMT

Q:
Is there a way to display an indicator that tells you that the article
currently being displayed (in read mode i.e.) has been selected by use
of the kill file ?

The reason I ask is that I want to be warned before I add another
(superfluous) entry to my kill file (currently at 20Kbytes).

Sven :)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Can I have nn alert me of incoming mail?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:39:03 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

>Is there a way to have nn alert me of incoming mail like rn does?

Yes.  Put this in your .nn/init file:

set mail /usr/mail/fox

In place of /usr/mail/fox, put the full pathname of your mail spool
file.  NN should look by default in the location /usr/spool/mail/user,
but if your mail file is not located there, NN will not find it.

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From: bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: Bug in (K)ill command ?
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:13:17 GMT
Reply-To: bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin)
Organization: The Westrheim Group, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes:

: I understand that hitting <space> issues the "select the default"
: command with dialogues.

: However, the following key stroke sequence does not result in an
: entry for the kill file, but returns you to reading:
: K             Kill            Starts kill command sequence
: s             select          Make a kill entry that _selects_ articles
: s             subject         Select by subject
: "<whatever>"  (text)          Any text you select by
: <return>      accept          Accepts the default (group selection)
: <space>               get default     Displays the default string
: <return>      accept          _Should_ accept the (displayed) value/text.

: In this case the default string is "30 days".
: But the problem is that I cannot accept this value by using <return>
: to create an entry to the kill file.

: What am I doing wrong ?

: Sven :)

I don't use that last <space> that you mention.  I just use:

K
s
<return>
.
.
.

as many times as it takes to get out of it.  I never use a
<space>.
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: keld@login.dkuug.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen)
Subject: how to avoid old subjects?
Organization: DKnet
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:00:10 GMT

I have been experimenting with some ideas for nn, which I would
like to hear some comments on.

I have been somewhat tired of seeing the same subjects again
and again, and would be interested in just seeing new
subjects plus the old ones that I cared for.

The other idea was to automatically see articles, that were followups
to my own articles, and also to automatically select followup
articles on those I have selected for reading.

Is this possible with the current nn?

I have planned two new variables:

ignore-re  (boolean, default false)
If set, articles with subjects already seen in a previous
invocation of nn or another newsreader - and not auto-selected -
are automatically killed.

auto-select-rw (boolean, default false)
If set, a subject of an article read or posted is automatically 
used for subsequent auto-selecting.

Keld Simonsen
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: gst@spdcc.com (Gary S. Trujillo)
Subject: Re: sorting by date within subject?
Reply-To: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:03:03 GMT

In article <bk-?BtCt@twinsun.com> eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) writes:
> gst@spdcc.com (Gary S. Trujillo) writes:
> 
> >I find that (using the default "subject" sorting order) the order of articles
> >within each subject is essentially random, as far as I can tell.
> 
> This is often due to a bug in pack_date which causes time zone info to
> be mis-applied...

Thanks, Paul!  I'll give it a try.

Gary
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Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: keld@login.dkuug.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen)
Subject: Re: how to avoid old subjects?
Organization: DKnet
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 06:26:53 GMT

kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb) writes:

>In <keld.724806010@login.dkuug.dk> keld@login.dkuug.dk (Keld J|rn Simonsen) writes:

>>I have been experimenting with some ideas for nn, which I would
>>like to hear some comments on.

>>I have been somewhat tired of seeing the same subjects again
>>and again, and would be interested in just seeing new
>>subjects plus the old ones that I cared for.

>Then kill the subjects that you aren't interested in--though I would recommend
>only killing them for 30 days or else it will take nn a while to compile
>the kill file...

But that is a lot of subjects!
I cannot kill all of those by hand.

>>The other idea was to automatically see articles, that were followups
>>to my own articles, and also to automatically select followup
>>articles on those I have selected for reading.

>Have nn automatically select on the subject line of your own msg (for
>30 days, once again) and it will auto-select the articles.

>>Is this possible with the current nn?

>Yes.

How? I would like to have the selection automatically
when I have selected it for reading, or when posting a new article.

>>I have planned two new variables:

>>ignore-re  (boolean, default false)
>>If set, articles with subjects already seen in a previous
>>invocation of nn or another newsreader - and not auto-selected -
>>are automatically killed.

>Where would it keep the subject lines?  How would it handle the number
>of possible subject lines?  (128^40 ?)

The subject lines should not be kept, but this should be done
by looking if the subject is new (no Re:) or  followup
to a new article.

>>auto-select-rw (boolean, default false)
>>If set, a subject of an article read or posted is automatically 
>>used for subsequent auto-selecting.

>Where would it keep the subject lines?  How would it handle the number
>of possible subject lines?  (128^40 ?)

in the kill file. I do not read and post that many articles.
say 500 subjects in a month.

Keld
From: stefans@bauv.unibw-muenchen.de (Stefan Schwarz)
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
Subject: Re: nn crashing after article preview mode
Date: 13 Dec 92 13:03:23 GMT
Organization: University of the armed forces, Munich
NNTP-Posting-Host: bauv106.bauv.unibw-muenchen.de

Richard.Mathews@West.Sun.COM (Richard M. Mathews) writes:

>daj20@amdahl.com (Daniel A Jatnieks) writes:

>>  After previewing an article (or articles) *usually*  nn crashes
>>  when I then type 'space' read my selections (or go to the next
>>  group).  I can usually reproduce this behavior with just a couple
>>  tries.  If I don't use preview, then I don't have any problems.

>I have experienced this as well -- if the article I am previewing is the
>last one on the menu.  Examination of the core dump shows that it has
>indexed past the end of the article array, but I haven't spent time trying
I've made a patch for this problem and sent it to Peter, who (i hope)
will include it in official patch 19.
If someone is interested now, i could email it.

Stefan
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Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: Re: What's MCIMAIL.COM ???
From: a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (Arthur Rubin)
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:14:48 GMT
Organization: Beckman Instruments, Inc.

In <Dec.13.15.49.48.1992.15629@caip.rutgers.edu> hstark@caip.rutgers.edu (howard stark) writes:


>I have seen addresses which resemble  ####@mcimail.com

>  Does mci offer a net service of some sort or is this
>just wishful thinking on my behalf.  I am looking for 
>a way to obtain EMAIL FTP NEWS after I leave school.
>   thank you

MCI offers a commercial E-mail service, with a gateway to a commercial
information provider (Dow Jones News, affiliated with the Wall Street
Journal.)

No USENet news or Internet ftp (other than ftp-mail gateways) is available.

(No affiliation with MCI Mail, except as a generally satisfied user.)

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