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From: eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (TAN JIN MENG)
Subject: Re: Switching display modes more quickly (probably a FAQ)
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:37:59 GMT

ANDY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Andrew T. Robinson) writes:
: Is it possible to quickly change the OS/2 configuration to a high
: resolution mode (8514, XGA) and back to VGA?  Fast, as opposed to
: plugging the last 10 installation disks in so OS/2 can load files
: which are already on the system!
: 
: Andy

If its just the PM Desktop, simply install the 2 possible display.dll
in different parts of the directory tree (not \os2). Then to switch
display drivers, just modify the LIBPATH in config.sys to point to the 
appropriate driver and reboot.

jin meng
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Steven R Jacobs)
Subject: Re: 0s2 compilers
In-reply-to: msmith@netcom.com's message of Fri, 28 Aug 92 07:20:18 GMT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
	<1992Aug28.034942.11641@news.cs.brandeis.edu>
	<9cdn=5-.msmith@netcom.com>
Date: 28 Aug 92 09:08:25

In article <9cdn=5-.msmith@netcom.com> msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith) writes:
> In article <1992Aug28.034942.11641@news.cs.brandeis.edu> branham@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>>There are several good choices available right now in C/C++ compilers
>>for OS/2.  Watcom and Zortech both support 32-Bit OS/2 flat memory
>
> Zortech supports 16 bit OS/2  at the moment.  It supports 32 bit extended
> dos however. With the current release of the compiler you can create the 
> following  
>	 DOS 32bit DOS Windows 16 bit OS/2 

Have you actually _run_ the 32 bit DOS Zortech compiler under OS/2?
I have been unable to get the compiler or any programs compiled with
it to run in a DOS window in OS/2.  There appear to be incompatibilities
in the DPMI support.

> Just want to keep things on the straight and narrow. 

Likewise, I'm sure...
--
Steve Jacobs  ({bellcore,hplabs,uunet}!utah-cs!jacobs, jacobs@cs.utah.edu)
"Never teach a card counter to sing.  It wastes your time and gets the card
 counter barred."
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:03:06 EDT
From: <JXL103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Links 386 Pro

Could anybody please tell me the proper settings for this game?...I'm running t
he ATI Graphics Ultra with the ATI VESA driver, if that helps...I can get the g
ame to work, but it seems that the golfer "swings" too fast and jerky...any
suggestions?
From: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Query: Problem with Drive Icon
Keywords: drive folder
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:00:49 GMT
Reply-To: kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de (Horst Kiehl)
Organization: Forschungszentrum Juelich GmbH (KFA), Germany

In article <1992Sep2.120522.22483@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>,
nirobb@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (N. I. Robb) writes:

>  However if I click on the
>other ones e f or g, nothing comes up.  The screen momentarily expands and
>shrinks immediately back down to the icon.

Perhaps the extended attributes (EAs) on that drive are inconsistent.
Try CHKDSK on each of the drives affected from a DOS or OS/2 prompt.
This will remove EA inconsistencies
(even without the /F option unless there are lost EAs).

I hope this helps.

Best wishes,

Horst
From: logic@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Ckermit throughput under OS/2
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:27:31 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

In article <1992Aug31.134314.3737@spcvxb.spc.edu>, mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
> I've gotten the latest OS/2 port of Ckermit (5A (183)) and I've
> noticed that using a v.32 connection (3 windows 512k packets) I
> can't get any better than 850-900cps.  I have a 16550 uart
> on my com port so I don't think the bottleneck is the com port.
> I am told that Ckermit on Dos is much faster.  Why?  Am I 
> getting decent throughput or do I need to tweak something?
> 
> I would much rather be using zmodem, but the machine I talk
> to only supports kermit/ckermit.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Chris

Chris,

Where did you get this latest port of Ckermit..  The latest that i can find is
(5A (179))..  Is (5A (183)) available via anonymous ftp?
thanks,
al hart
From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Ckermit throughput under OS/2
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:43:14 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

I've gotten the latest OS/2 port of Ckermit (5A (183)) and I've
noticed that using a v.32 connection (3 windows 512k packets) I
can't get any better than 850-900cps.  I have a 16550 uart
on my com port so I don't think the bottleneck is the com port.
I am told that Ckermit on Dos is much faster.  Why?  Am I 
getting decent throughput or do I need to tweak something?

I would much rather be using zmodem, but the machine I talk
to only supports kermit/ckermit.

Cheers,

Chris
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sunday, 30 Aug 1992 16:22:02 EDT
From: Jim Gerlach <GERLACHJ@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: WIN-OS2: HPIIIP and HPLJW.ZIP

I downloaded HPLJW.ZIP from FTP-OS2.NMSU.EDU in hopes of getting better
WIN-OS2 support for my HP LaserJet IIIP with the lower cassette tray. I
installed the updated driver as instructed in the READ.ME (i.e. copied
HPPCL.DRV, UNIDRV.DLL and UNIDRV.HLP) to the \OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\SYSTEM
directory). However after ADDING the driver under a full-screen WIN-OS2
session I don't find a selection for the HPIIIP. If I enter the CONFIGURE
panel I'm told the driver is for a Laserjet III. If I OK and exit, then
reenter the panel now says Laserjet II on the top bar. I am confused (spare
me the thought now going through your head :-)

One final bit of info: The driver I was using for WIN-OS2 was the HPPCL5A
driver that came with OS/2 2.0 and was selected as HP Laserjet III. I also
have drivers for the HP PaintJet and IBM ProPrinter X24 installed if it
matters.

Two questions:

Does the HPPCL.DRV (153120 bytes) support the HP IIIP?

If yes, any suggestions on how to select this printer?

Thanx in advance for any help.

Jim

Jim Gerlach - Cancer Research Laboratories
James.H.Gerlach@QueensU.CA                    Queen's University
GERLACHJ@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (NetNorth/BITNET)   Room A309A, Botterell Hall
tel (613) 545-6446                            Kingston, Ontario
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cvadrtbc@vmsa.is.csupomona.edu (Srikanth Viswanathan)
Subject: Re: DOS VDM can't see new file in A:
Organization: California Polytechnic University, Pomona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:41:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: vmsa.is.csupomona.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug26.053814.13068@news.columbia.edu>, mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes...
>Is there any way to "boot DOS on drive B" instead of A?
>Is this a limitation which is in OS/2 or in the hardware?
> 
>I don't mean boot DOS, I mean boot a virtual machine from that disk's boot
>sector!

Yeah, just change the DOS_STARUP_DRIVE in the Settings to B: instead of
A:.

Srikanth
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 300,000 sold in ten days
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:16:24 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

Re: Gateway bundles DOS/Win, not OS/2.

Well, it's not as if MS is clean in this numbers game - how about the
zillions of Win copies apparently gathering dust in Egghead stores? They
get added in to that marvelous MS total too. Ok, they were "sold" to 
Egghead, but if they languish on shelves (and Egghead seems disappointed
with 3.1 sales, so apparently they are) then it doesn't signify, at least
for me. And of course, the real nub - use level, which is very difficult
to estimate for either Win or OS/2, so speculate you heart out.

Plus, Gateway may not put OS/2 on, but Dell does. And I wonder how long
it will be before Gateway does... my guess is that most clone shops will
be offering OS/2 bundled by early next year. 

Not flamage Bert, just comments :-)

Tom
From: frigo@psl.wisc.edu (Sean P. Frigo UW-Madison SRC (608)877-2332,-2001(FAX))
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Problems with ATI Vantage and OS/2 8514/A-Mode
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:43:59 GMT
Reply-To: frigo@psl.wisc.edu
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Physical Science Lab

In article <7073@salyko.cubenet.sub.org>, smartie@cubenet.sub.org (Harald Gaenslein) writes:
>
>Hello out ther.
>
>I've problems with my ATI Vantage and OS/2 2.0 in 8514/A-Mode
>(1024*768*256)
>
>I'll move icons and the system will stop. All stops. No softreset will
>work, only a hardreset on the machin will boot the PC. I work on a
>386/33 with 8 MB Ram (PS/2-Simms [The big one]). In VGA-Mode this
>problem will not appear.
>
>Any help from anybody?
>
>bye,
>		Harry
>
>Harald Gaenslein - Germany - Munich - smartie@cubenet.sub.org
>
Yes, I get the same problem.  I can drag windows, but not highlighted icons.
It also depends on how I configure the Vantage card for my monitor.  If I
choose NEC 4D/5D (70 Hz vert refresh) or NEC 5D (72 Hz), everything is fine.
If I try a 76 Hz vertical refresh in a custom configuration to better use
the NEC 5FG I have, then the system will crash hard, just as you describe.
It crashes regardless of whether I use the in-port mouse with the Vantage
card or a serial mouse.  Could this be at 76 Hz the IRQ rate clogs the
system?

Sean Frigo
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Can't delete an icon
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:45:39 GMT

Horst Kiehl (kiehl@ibt013.ibt.kfa-juelich.de) wrote:
> In article <1992Aug29.012110.15068@nuscc.nus.sg>, eletanjm@nuscc.nus.sg (TAN JIN MENG) writes:
> 
> >The simplest is simply to create a "rubbish" folder. Move any unwanted
> >object in there and delete the "rubbish" folder periodically. Recreate 
> >the rubbish folder anytime you want.
> 
> This won't work if one of the objects inside the folder is undeletable.
> I tried it the way you described, and failed.
> 

I have tried almost everything and this ICON does not want to go away. If I
move it into a folder and even try and close the folder, the whole system
hangs. I have just downloaded the os2.ini editor from comp.binaries.os2. I
have no idea if this will help me, but it may just do. 

At the moment I am looking for a nice icon for to change this thing to.
Maybe a christamas tree or something. Something decorative at least, can't
find any other purpose for it.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: ccusekh@prism.gatech.EDU (Kevin Hodge)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: need help with install weirdness
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:31:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I need help with a problem I had installing OS/2 2.0.  The system is a 
Gateway2000 486DX-2 50 EISA with an Adaptec 1742 SCSI controller.  The
hard disk is a 340MB Maxtor.  Using OS/2's Fdisk program, I set up the
hard disk as follows (after deleting the original partition): 
boot manager at the beginning of the physical drive;
primary partition (50MB) for MS-DOS 5.0 on C:
70MB logical drive D: for OS/2 (which is the default OS at boot time)
200+MB logical drive E: for programs and data.
I chose HPFS for drive D: when I installed OS/2 and after the installation
I formatted drive D: as HPFS and C: as FAT.
The OS/2 install seemed fine.  Printer works and I did a couple of shutdowns
and reboots and all seemed ok.  Next, I installed MS-DOS 5.0 (provided by
Gateway) and again, the install seemed to go fine.  However, when I rebooted
the system the boot manager did not give me the choice of which OS I wanted
to boot; MS-DOS loaded automatically.  I certainly hope I don't have to 
install OS/2 again :-( .   Any suggestions?  Thanks in advance.  
-- 
Kevin A. Hodge                |   "I'll show you a life of the mind!"
Engineering Psychology        |            Madman Mundt
Georgia Tech                  |
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: question about multitasking on 486
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:34:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.142550.1@agri.huji.ac.il> weller1@agri.huji.ac.il writes:
>is it possible to run SAS (statistic-software) and word for windows /word-
>perfect for windows or normal dos version of werdperfecct on a 486/33 machine
>at the same time,:real multitasking, not just two open applications, but that i
>can write during the calculating of the statistics!

Absolutely -- OS/2 does offer true, preemptive multitasking throughout
the system.  In fact, there's a terrific OS/2 version of SAS already,
with the 32-bit version slated for release later this year.  The SAS
Institute is apparently recommending that, if at all possible, if you
wish to run SAS on the PC you should run it under OS/2.  (The Windows
and OS/2 SAS prices are identical.)

>does a ms dos/os2 real make use of the full power of a 486 computer for SAS
>thank you for an answer

Yes indeed.

-- 
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sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.benchmarks
From: mrbill@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Bowen)
Subject: Re: Text scroll benchmark
Keywords: text scroll benchmark window
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 16:38:46 GMT

In article <14gnjd+.jps@netcom.com> jps@netcom.com (John Serafin) writes:
>
>I am proposing a text scrolling benchmark.   Although most computers can
>scroll text much faster than it is possible to read, scrolling delay can
>be quite objectionable during interactive modem sessions.   Scrolling text
>in a window in a GUI environment can take up so much CPU time that full
>modem throughput is not realized. 

Try Texas Instruments' free Wintach windows benchmark program available at
ftp.cica.indiana.edu. It has tests for paint, spreadsheet, text and CAD video
performance, and gives comparisons to TIGA 34010 and 34020, 8514, Tseng and
standard VGA run on a 386DX-20. It appears to test quite realistically and
gives reasonable results. I've tested Paradise and Tseng frame buffers and
a 34010 based board and got results consistent with expectations. I'd 
definitely recommend the use of either an accelerated or coprocessed video
board for any GUI user. The improvement in performance is well worth the cost.
In fact, if you're using a 386DX and considering upgrading to a 486 for
improved windows performance, spend the money on an accelerated video card
instead. You'll realize a much greater performance benefit.

Regards,

Bill
mrbill@leland.stanford.edu
From: ADUNSMUI@TOROLAB6.VNET.IBM.COM (Al Dunsmuir)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:29:18 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 WINS!! I give up!
Organization: IBM Canada Laboratory Ltd, Toronto, CANADA
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <1992Aug28.200235.7250@njitgw.njit.edu>

In <1992Aug28.200235.7250@njitgw.njit.edu> David Charlap writes:
>In article <liuyu.714945700@kramden> liuyu@kramden.nyu.edu (Liuyu) writes:
>>>Due to some recent experience one should also suspect the RAM cache.
>>>Some vendors, it seems, cut corners and supply slightly out of spec
>>>cache memory, substituting cache that is too slow for the system.
>>>This, too, can result in memory parity errors.
>>
>>Can you explain why this happens only under OS/2? Is it just another excuse,
>>blaming hardware? Does it happen under other complex programs like Unix or
>>Novell? Thanks.
>
>OS/2, due to it s high amount of context switching, has some strange
>ability to push intermittently bad memory over the edge.  It's
>happened on many computers.  Replacing the memory usually works to
>cure it.
>
>My father's computer at work had its memory "pushed over the edge" by
>Windows 3.1.  So it's nothing inherent in OS/2.  (And when Windows 3.1
>died, it took most of his /Windows directory with it - a complete
>re-install of Windows and all Windows apps had to be performed).
>Again, replacing the memory cured everything.
>
>--
>   |)  David Charlap           "I don't even represent myself
>  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   sometimes so NJIT is right out!.
> ((|,)
>  ~|~  Hi! I am a .signature virus, copy me into your .signature file.
>

  Some of the extra stress is due to two differences between when one executes
a program from memory, and when one simply reads/writes that memory using a
program (such as a DOS VDISK device driver).

    A) A DOS device driver typically will access a smallish block of the
       memory (copying data in or out), then not touch the card for what
       appears to the card to be a relatively long time.  If the refresh
       circuitry doesn't properly handle the cases when a particular
       range of addresses is used without a break (code in a long, tight
       loop), your memory won't get refreshed properly and you lose data.

    A) When executing a program the address lines change in a fairly random
       manner. Some memory cards (or memory chips) can keep up with relatively
       slow changes, but aren't fast enough to keep up with the instruction
       addresses.  Sooner or later the card fetches storage from the wrong
       memory address, and your program dies a horrible death.

Al Dunsmuir                       Internet: adunsmui@torolab6.vnet.ibm.com
CODE Development II + TEAM OS/2      Voice: (416) 448-3315
IBM Canada Laboratory Ltd, Toronto, CANADA

OS/2 V2: Why settle for anything less?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pathak@mitre.org (Heeren Pathak)
Subject: Re: OS2 WINS!!  I give up!
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Mitre Corporation
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:40:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.015416.6882@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>,
riehm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm) wrote:
> 
> >In article <26AUG199210035893@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> solomon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Solomon) writes:
> 
> a horrible tale of woe...   I'm just about to install OS/2, but after reading 
> his experience, I very worried.  I *do* have a mixture of memory (on my IBM
> Model 70) which is certainly from different manufacturers, and almost certainly
> different speeds.  Does anyone else have any experience with using differing
> memory simms  with OS/2?   When IBM itself warns against this situation, 
> it sounds serious!   Carl Riehm.

I have different speed SIMM on my motherboard and runs OS/2 without a
problem.  One set is 70ns, 9 chips Toshiba SIMMs and the other is 60ns, 3
chip Motorola SIMMs.  

Make sure that your motherboard can handle different types of SIMM and that
the SIMM work.  From reports on the net, the only time people have memory
problem is when the SIMMs are somewhat flakey to being with.

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From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person )
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Does Os/2 Have The Equai
Date: 23 Aug 92 22:17:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19850
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Really, you could just use find from the pop up menu.  I use this s lot.
-- 
Brett Person
Guest Account	
North Dakota State University
person@plains.nodak.edu || person@plains.bitnet
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Thanx about fortran question
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:46:44 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <23AUG199212163729@elroy.uh.edu> elee969@elroy.uh.edu (Brown, William J.) writes:
>1. Since the only reason we might consider getting os2 would be for the fortran,
>I assume it's possible to partition my hd into dos and os2 sections?

Absolutely, using either Boot Manager or Dual Boot.

>2. If one is possible, can os2 run applications located on the dos partition?

Absolutely.

>3. Since we have a registered copy of win 3.1, are we eligible for a special
>upgrade price to os2?

Yes.  Only $79.  In the U.S. you can call 800-3-IBM-OS2 to order at
that special price.  (It would be $99 if upgrading from DOS, $149
without upgrading.)

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From: kooper@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Rob Kooper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 won't run on a Tulip
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:39:38 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

A friend of mine is trying to make OS/2 to run on his machine. He is using
a Tulip 386SX 20Mhz with 10 Mb memory. The machine is equiped with a build
in video card with a paradise chip set.

Installing went ok but when running, OS/2 is continuesly writing to the hard
disk (swapfile ?). Looking at the swapfile shows it is growing and growing.

Please respond by E-mail

Thanx
--
Robert-Jan Kooper                | We're living in an age when lemonade is 
    rob@is.twi.tudelft.nl        | made with artificial ingredients and 
    kooper@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl | furniture polish is made of real lemons!
                                 |             -Alfred E. Neuman (MAD #310)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lemieux@eecg.toronto.edu (Guy Gerard Lemieux)
Subject: Re: Query: IDE drive (plus ET4k question)
Distribution: na
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:57:44 GMT

lrj@cs.cornell.edu (Lew Jansen) writes:
>	  Of course, I now find myself in a position where I need to
>	replace my existing (MFM) hard disk.  What kind of price does
>	the Adaptec 1542b SCSI controller have?  My jaw hit the floor
>	when I saw the pricing on the Ultrastor controllers.

Don't bother picking up your jaw... :)

The adaptec runs around $300.  Try to get the "kit" form (so you
have all the drivers and stuff for DOS/Novell/etc and can use them
if you need them or sell your adaptec--it is much more expensive
to buy them separately).

>	  I'm afraid that plain economics will dictate that I opt for
>	IDE.  In light of this, I'm considering the Quantum LPS120A.

Excellent drive.  I recommend only Quantums to people who ask.
Why?  Because their darn good:  fast, quiet, reliable.  Quantum
Corp's financial report was released recently and they are in
excellent financial shape (read:  warranty support!).

>	Any opinions?  How well do they deal with other drives if I
>	decide to add another IDE at a later date?

A friend had a very difficult time getting two Quantums to work
together.  One was an older 80MB IDE drive (under the "Impulse"
name) and the other was a (screamingly fast!) 210MB Quantum.
He gave up and resorted to using floppies to transfer the data
over from the smaller drive.


Before deciding IDE or SCSI, ask yourself how much longer you will
be in the IBM PC arena.  I buy SCSI peripherals so that I can take
them with me when I get a "real computer" (a 1.7GB SCSI drive is
likely to suit me for many years...).  Similarly, CD-ROM drives,
good tape drives (not those cheapo ones running off a floppy
controller), removeable drives (IOmega/SyQuest/optifloppies) and
stuff can all be had in SCSI varieties (often the SCSI version is
even better performing).

Guy