From: amy young <alyoung@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: They Know! (Part II)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:53:48 -0500

This is pretty long and rambling ... 

In article <92106.222837SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu> <SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I saw someone mentioning something about the (somewhat paranoic) thought
>that music/tv/radio knows about the altered states intimately, and is using
>this to their advantage (and yours?).  I just want to state that this is not
>such a paranoic state: I know for a fact that Pink Floyd knows (at least
>knew).  Listen to any of their stuff (esp.  earlier works like UmmaGumma &
>Meddle) and tell me that I lie.  Just try it.  Believe me, they *know*.  And

Meddle:  GOD... I listened to this the first time I tripped.  I
tripped hard, in the company of a doctor of altered states whom I
trusted implicitly.  We started the evening by dropping off at a
record store; he said he was going to get some things that would
"bring back memories."  He gets back in the car with the bad with a
few cd's in it, and I asked what he got... and he gives me this sly
look, and said, "I bought a time machine....."  And won't show me or
tell me what's in the bag.  We go back to his place, relax, drop (a
few hits for me... and this was my first time), and within an hour and
15 minutes I'm rolling on the floor going 'OH FUCKING MAN!!!  LOOK!
AT THE WALLS!  OH MAN... OH MAN...."  =)  I can remember laying on the
floor in the junction of two walls, on my back, looking up at the
white ceiling between the juts of the corners of the walls, and it was
almost like there was this neon colored overlay of flowers and such in
front of me... and he's standing over my head looking down at me just
laughing....  Gives me warm fuzzies just thinking... 

ANYWAY... once quickly on our way, he puts on some music, and we play 
that strange trip movie that starts with a K....=)  Lots of weird
scenes, landscapes, closeups of cutting into a steak, REALLY strange.
And I realize at some point that he's turned off the sound and has put
on Meddle... I'm just ripping towards the peak, and by the time we get
to the last track that lasts FOREVER... I'm GONE... both feet in lala
land, firmly.  And if you've listened to it, it's like this circular
THING that just takes you up, and won't let you off... after going
through the cycle god only knows how many times, I'm crawling on the
floor going, "Damn... HOW many times MUST we go through this????"  At
that point, with all the little voices and such, I actually stopped,
stopped dead cold, and asked myself if this was what it was like to be
insane.  I panicked for a split second, and he caught on, and drew me
close, and I was off again... 

The ending of that cd was so strange... he had, at the appropriate
time, looked at me, smiled, and said, "I told you I bought a time
machine..." (if you've heard this I think you'll get it... )  ANYWAY,
the ending of it was just so strange... I was on the couch TOTALLY
lost in the music.  I mean I was totally out of this world, my senses
were one big ball, I couldn't simply feel anything, you know what I
mean... and all of a sudden the instumentation which was like this
huge flowing blanket just draws up to the middle, and neatly ties
itself up into a bow, and then it's gone... click.  I'm back on the
couch, utterly astounded, out of breath, frantic, wondering if I'm
still alive.  

>Other groups that seem to know IMHO, are Chris & Cosey, Drop Acid, and other
>alternative acts.  In fact, isn't alternative music a good word for it?
>Just take 'alter', lift it out and add 'ed' & 'states'.  :-)

I find the techno music such as 808 state is actually very upsetting
to me when I'm exploring.  It is so... hard and almost emotionaless
because the music has none of the natural breathing of music performed
by real humans.  The precision beat is just too rigid... at least for
me.  Your mileage may vary... 

amy

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