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From: nichols@spss.com (David Nichols)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.spssx-l
Subject: Re: Manova w/Repeated Measures & a Covariate
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:26:57 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

In article <SPSSX-L%92122216464310@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> GUZOREK@SNYCORVA.BITNET writes:
>We are running SPSSx 2.1 on a UNISYS A10.  I have a user who is attempting to
>run a Repeated Measures with a Varying Covariate analysis.  His analysis aborts
>with the message  WARNING  SPSS-X has terminated abnormally and has not been
>able to produce a complete output.  Unless you deliberately terminated (DSED)
>this job, please inform your SPSS-X Coordinator immediately.
>
>The code is:
>
>MANOVA ZINFO ZNORM ZDIFF BY STATUS(1,4) WITH COMM/
>WSFACTOR=ZSCORE(4)/
>WSDESIGN/
>MEASURES=ZSCORE/
>PRINT=PMEANS
>ANALYSIS(REPEATED) = ZINFO ZNORM ZDIFF WITH COMM/
>DESIGN/
>
>I have found that I can run the manova line alone, but trying to use the
>repeated measure analysis the program either gives the above error message or
>goes into what appears to be an endless processing loop.  I'm not sure whether
>it's a problem with our release, with the design, or with the UNISYS can anyone
>help me out on what I should look at?

The problem here would appear to be that there are only three levels of the
WSFACTOR here, not four. Also, MANOVA requires a covariate for each dependent
variable and makes you create a set of dummy covariates to run the analysis.
This error message is kind of foreign to me; I have a feeling it's pretty
old and may no longer be around, or at least you wouldn't get it on a more
current system with that same syntax. You need to compute two dummy covariates
to list after COMM, change the number of levels of the WSFACTOR to 3, and
stop ANALYSIS(REPEATED) before the = sign.

--
 David Nichols        Senior Statistical Support Specialist         SPSS, Inc.
 Phone: (312) 329-3684     Internet:  nichols@spss.com     Fax: (312) 329-3657
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Subject: Re: manova interpretation
From: nichols@spss.com (David Nichols)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:46:58 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

In article <1992Dec31.135743.18937@polaris.utu.fi> Timo Toivonen <ttoivonen@abo.fi> writes:
>
>How to interprete MANOVA
>
>Manova gives interaction parameters in a known order. What is this order.
>Is it so that the first parameter is the value of effect when both (or
>more) variables are in the first category. But the second parameter? Is
>it so that the first mentioned  variable (for example, if variable names
>are USOS and HESU  and the interaction term USOS BY HESU) is still in the
>first category, but the second one moves to the second category or vice
>versa.

The interaction contrasts are created by elementwise multiplication of
the main effect parameters involved. The incrementing of subscripts
runs fastest on the last factor listed, so that if A and B are the factors,
then AB(1,1) is a contrast with coefficients equal (or proportional) to
the product of those for the first contrasts of A and B. The next parameter
for the interaction would be AB(1,2), then on to AB(i,j-1), then back to
AB(2,1) up to AB(2,j-1), etc., up to AB(i-1,j-1). The interaction parameters
created by the default deviation contrasts are generally not of supreme
usefulness. Often it certain forms of interaction are postulated, you'll
have to do one of two things: figure out what kind of main effect contrasts
will produce the desired particular interaction contrasts, or simply lay
the design out as a big oneway and specify all the contrasts in the model
and partition the pieces if you want to get the factor effects in addition
to the individual 1 df contrasts.

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 David Nichols        Senior Statistical Support Specialist         SPSS, Inc.
 Phone: (312) 329-3684     Internet:  nichols@spss.com     Fax: (312) 329-3657
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              Jan 12, 93 04:13:16 pm

Yes. The delayed messages keep coming. Reminds me of Dukas.
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Reply-To:     Kathy <DUBOSE@AKRONVM.BITNET>
From:         Kathy <DUBOSE@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Correlations

Hi,

I need some help.  I have a dataset that contains information about 18
agencies.  Within each agency, every employee falls into 1 of 4 positions.
What I want is a mean for certain variables grouped by agency and position.
Thus, for each agency, for each variable there will be 4 means (one mean for
each position).

I would appreciate any help that you could give me.  I am not on the
list so please reply directly to me at:  dubose@akronvm.

Thanks for your help,
Kathy DuBose
The University of Akron
kdubose@akronvm
From: cids05@vaxa.strath.ac.uk (Dr Stephen K Tagg)
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Subject: Re: select and temporary
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:12:30 GMT
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In article <andrea.726331849@pX1.stfx.ca>, 
andrea@pX1.stfx.ca (John Andrea) writes:
> Every once i a while i have a user who wants to create a new variable
> based on some selection criteria. They tend to use a combination of
> TEMPORARY and SELECT but it seems that a new variable created while
> the temporary is in effect is not visible after the temporary.
> 
> Is there a way around this side effect of the temporary ?
Yes
Don't use temporary!!!!
> 
> For simple cases i show them to just do this:
>    if (sex eq 1) scale = age * grade
>    if (sex eq 2) scale = age * grade * 5
>    if (sex eq 3) scale = age * grade * 9
> 
> or something like that {i try to take the view of an spss job as a
> program, i'm a programmer by trade, not a statistician}
My own advise, based on more than twenty years with spss products, is to
avoid if as well.
the above I would do by 
	recode sex(1=1)(2=5)(3=9) into temp
	compute scale=age*grade*temp
> 
> but for more complex cases, a RELIABILITY for instance, i can't see how
> to do it.
If you want to you can use missing values in the recode to force the
compute to produce a missing value result.
Although you can avoid if's to a large extent, you do eventually
get to need them when you are really complex. However I tend to go
straight to...
	do if(sex=1)
	compute scale=age*grade
	else if(sex=2)
	compute scale=age*grade*5
	else if(sex=3)
	compute scale=age*grade*9
	end if
> 
> John Andrea
> VAX System Manager
> St.F.X.Univ.
> andrea@essex.stfx.ca
With that approach you can feel deeply programming and know what happens.
Of course do if etc arent in SPSSpc+ 4.0
-- 
Dr Stephen K Tagg                   Bsc in Psychology, PhD in Architecture
Lecturer, Department of Marketing   IT & Stats for Marketing, Consumer Research
Univ of Strathclyde, GLASGOW        Mental Maps, Multidimensional Scaling, CSCW
G4 0RQ, SCOTLAND Tel 041-552-4400x2409 Fax 552 2802 Email s.k.tagg@uk.ac.strath
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From:         David Zubrow <dz@SEI.CMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Correlations
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              05 Jan 93 15:47:52 EST." <Added.cfGTR6u00UdbMhAE5I@andrew.cmu.edu>

>   Hi,
>
>   I need some help.  I have a dataset that contains information about 18
>   agencies.  Within each agency, every employee falls into 1 of 4 positions.
>   What I want is a mean for certain variables grouped by agency and position.
>   Thus, for each agency, for each variable there will be 4 means (one mean fo
r
>   each position).
>
>   I would appreciate any help that you could give me.  I am not on the
>   list so please reply directly to me at:  dubose@akronvm.
>
>   Thanks for your help,
>   Kathy DuBose
>   The University of Akron
>   kdubose@akronvm



Kathy,

The MEANS procedure (aka breakdown) will easily produce the means you want for
each combination of position and agency.

Dave
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From:         Whai-Jy Irene Wu <kam@wam.umd.edu>
Subject:      set up office library

Hi there,

Our company, a sci-tech consulting firm, is trying to set up a library for its
employees. The ideal library is an electronic reference library.  Information
should be found through computers.  Also, documents, proposals, reports, and
periodicals should be stored online in order to save office space. A small part
of the library is materials in printed format.  Is anybody out there able to
give me some ideas about how to start doing it, what kinds of system can
support this idea work out, or any kinds of suggestions?  Thanks.

I.S.
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From:         HCLADM08@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU
Subject:      SILVERPLATTER 3.11 UPGRADE

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Dear LIBREF listmembers,

Two weeks ago I received a floppy disk upgrade for my SILVERPLATTER
compact disc databases.  The upgrade was numbered SPIRS 3.11 and
the accompanying documentation albeit brief mentioned that ...a
few users had noticed some type of memory processing error,  but that
the 3.11 fix would mediate that error.

My request, would any of you, who did not discard the documentation
to which I am referring, please send me a copy of the notice?  Hardcopy
via fax or snailmail will be infinitely appreciated; and thank you in
advance.

--
Nick Tomaiuolo, Information Services Librarian
hcladm08@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Univ. of Connecticut Health Center PO Box 4003
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From:         "Karen B. Nichols - X8131" <NICHOLS@LUB002.LAMAR.EDU>
Subject:      Position Announcement

----------------------------Original message----------------------------


This position announcement has been submitted to PACS-L, LIBREF-L,
and ACRLNY-L with apologies for duplicate copies.
*****************************************************************

POSITION ANNOUNCEMENT

Position Title:          Reference Librarian

Salary:                  $25,500 (12 months, tenure track,
                         faculty status)

Responsibilities:        Provides general reference services in
                         both traditional and automated
                         resources, acts as faculty liaison and
                         participates in collection development
                         in assigned area, assists in database
                         searching and bibliographic
                         instruction, prepares bibliographies,
                         and serves on library and University
                         committees.  Reports to the
                         Coordinator of Reference Services.

Qualifications:          Required:  ALA accredited MLS degree;
                         strong commitment to public service;
                         good written/oral communication skills;
                         ability to work effectively in an
                         automated environment, including online
                         databases and CD-ROMs.

                         Preferred:  One to two years reference
                         experience in an academic setting;
                         proficiency with microcomputers and
                         other library systems; substantive
                         physical sciences coursework.

Deadline Date:           Search will remain open until position
                         is filled but applications submitted by
                         January 31, 1993 will be given first
                         consideration.

Apply to:                Karen B. Nichols, Chair
                         Search Committee
                         Mary and John Gray Library
                         Lamar University
                         P.O. Box 10021, LUS
                         Beaumont, Texas  77710
                         Voice:  409-880-8131
                         Fax:  409-880-2309
                         Internet:  Nichols@LUB002.LAMAR.EDU
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I would be interested in contacting anyone who has cd-roms networked in a publi
c library. What equipment are you using?  Is the network part of a building wid
e network?

Marguerite Buck
Chester County Library and District Center
400 Exton Square Parkway
Exton, PA  19341
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Subject:      open meeting at Midwinter (x-posted)

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The RASD MOPSS Fee-Based Reference Services Committee will hold and
open meeting at the Denver Midwinter Conference entitled: _Are_All_
Patrons_Created_Equal?:_Exploring_the_Impact_of_Fees_on_Service_
Levels_.  As more and more libraries are forced to produce income
in an era of tight budgets, we have to face issues such as
differentiating between primary and secondary clientele, the
equity of service provided to paying customers and primary clientele,
where to draw the line between fee and free, etc.  These will be
some of the issues introduced for discussion by a panel of librarians
from the different perspectives of academic, public, and state
libraries.  The meeting will be held Sunday, January 24, 2-4 p.m. at
Westin Tabor Center Lawrence A.

Zsuzsa Koltay
Bowling Green State University
KOLTAY@OPIE.BGSU.EDU
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:51:16 EDT
From:         ROXANN BUSTOS <librrb@acvax.BITNET>
Subject:      ANSWERING MACHINES

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
We are considering the acquisition of an answering machine to help us out
during very busy times at Reference.  I would like to hear from Reference
Librarians who use such a machine to know what their experience has been.
Pros, cons, recommendations, etc.  We'll appreciate any advice you can give!
Roxann Bustos
Reese Library
Augusta College
Augusta, GA 30904-2200
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From: cmr0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHRISTINE M. ROYSDON)
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Subject: Telephone books -- charges for libraries
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:40:13 GMT
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Bell Atlantic is talking about instituting charges for out-of-region telephone
books supplied to libraries. What are the other Baby Bells doing? Do they
charge just for out-of-region books, for all books, or none? Need to know
soon! Thanks.
-- 



Christine Roysdon (cmr0@lehigh.edu)
Lehigh University Libraries
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Subject:      trip reports

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Thanks to everyone on this list who responded to my query, about a year ago,
on using written trip reports in libraries.  Your input now appears in
Library Administration and Management (Winter 1993) in the article "The
Written Trip Report:  Maximizing Benefits for the Library" (pages 47-50).
The article would not have been possible without the help of Librefers.
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:47:45 EDT
From:         barbara@aal.itd.umich.edu
Subject:      Speaker Recommendations

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
We're trying to put together a list of potential speakers for staff
development programs on some specific bibliographic instruction related
topics.  The topics that we're looking at right now are teaching
technologies, that is how to teach electronic resources and other
information tech stuff, such as OPACs, Internet, etc. including critical
thinking skills in relation to these resources and basic instructional
design, i.e. writing goals and objectives, selecting instructional methods,
etc.  Any suggestions on good speakers for either of these topics?  If
you'll post directly to me, I'll be happy to summarize or report to the list
if there's interest.

Thanks for your help.

Barbara Beaton
University of Michigan
barbara@umich.edu
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