From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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Subject: Re: Gagging at the mess of "sen-visser"s slashed brain?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:34:38 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <visser.721500408@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:

>	Presenting the 1992 edition of "scholars for sale".  Yes you
>too can buy the historical arguement of your choice for a rather
>small amount of money.  No line of arguement too disagreeable, 

You have been utterly humiliated on this point. I don't need to
add anything here. Nope, I take that back.

Source: "World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn. Crown Publishers, 
Inc., New York (1952), p. 361 (fourth paragraph).

"Corpses came next, the first a pretty child with straight black hair, large
 eyes. She looked about twelve years old. She lay in some stubble where meal
 lay scattered from the sack she'd been toting. The bayonet had gone through
 her back, I judged, for blood around was scant. Between the breasts one clot,
 too small for a bullet wound, crusted her homespun dress.

 The next was a boy of ten or less, in rawhide jacket and knee-pants. He lay
 face down in the path by several huts. One arm reached out to the pewter 
 bowl he'd carried, now upset upon its dough. Steel had jabbed just below
 his neck, into the spine. 

 There were grownups, too, I saw as I led the sorrel around. Djul was empty
 of the living till I looked up to see beside me Dro's German-speaking colonel.
 He said all Tartars who had not escaped were dead."


Source: "Adventures in the Near East, 1918-1922" by A. Rawlinson,
Jonathan Cape, 30 Bedford Square, London, 1934 (First published 1923) 
(287 pages).

p. 184 (second paragraph)

 "...I had received further very definite information of horrors that
  had been committed by the Armenian soldiery in Kars Plain, and as 
  I had been able to judge of their want of discipline by their treatment 
  of my own detached parties, I had wired to Tiflis from Zivin that
  'in the interests of humanity the Armenians should not be left in   
  independent command of the Moslem population, as, their troops being
  without discipline and not under effective control, atrocities were
  constantly being committed, for which we should with justice 
  eventually be held to be morally responsible'."

p. 177 (third paragraph)

 "...Armenian troops, who, having pillaged and destroyed all the
  Moslem villages in the plain...."

 "Caravans of refugees were in the meanwhile constantly arriving from the
  plain, from which the whole Moslem population was fleeing with as much of
  their personal property as they could transport, seeking to obtain security
  and protection..."

p. 178 (first paragraph)

 "...in those Moslem villages in the plain below which had been searched for
  arms by the Armenians everything had been taken under the cloak of such
  search, and not only had many Moslems been killed, but horrible tortures 
  had been inflicted in the endeavour to obtain information as to where
  valuables had been hidden, of which the Armenians were aware of the existence,
  although they had been unable to find them."

p. 179 (first paragraph)

 "Shortly afterwards the head of the miserable column appeared. There were
  in all about 200 persons, mostly old men and women and children, with a
  few ox-carts, ponies, and donkeys, carrying all their worldly possessions,
  except a few sheep that they were driving before them. Their leader
  interviewed Bekir Bey, and was told to keep farther on into the hills,
  where he would be able to cross the frontier into Turkey unmolested by
  his enemies."

p. 181 (first paragraph)

"...the Armenians from the plain were attacking the Kurdish line with 
 artillery, with probably a large force in support."

p. 175 (first paragraph)

"The arrival of this British brigade was followed by the announcement
 that Kars Province had been allotted by the Supreme Council of the
 Allies to the Armenians, and that announcement having been made, the
 British troops were then completely withdrawn, and Armenian occupation
 commenced. Hence all the trouble; for the Armenians at once commenced
 the wholesale robbery and persecution of the Muslem population on the
 pretext that it was necessary forcibly to deprive them of their arms.
 In the portion of the province which lies in the plains they were able
 to carry out their purpose, and the manner in which this was done will
 be referred to in due course.

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)