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From: davispa
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Still Looking for a Siamese Pet!!
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:12:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Nov9.191250.8456
Reply-To: davispa@ohsu.edu
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University

In article <1992Nov5.231814.17871@ohsu.edu> davispa writes:
>I sure am enjoying reading all the monster stories and messages about our
>dearly beloved friends -- I would very much like to find a Siamese kitten -
>male - Lilac, Blue, Seal, Chocolate - around 2-1/2 to 6 months old.  I'm in
the
>Portland area.  Doesn't anyone know of any available babies looking for a good
>home?  
>Thanx -- Pamela Davis -- davispa@OHSU.edu 
>
SEARCH FOLLOW-UP --
   My search is over!!!!
   I have found the darlingest little blue point kitten.  He's 7 weeks old and
extremely playfull and friendly.  He loves his new home.  I've named him Thove
[pronounced Tovy] (short for Beethoven, of course!).  I name all my cats after
composers - the last one was Chopin (we called him Choppy).
   I must say, looking for just the right kitten is fun, but heart wrenching --
you get to play with all these little babies, but then you have to leave them
all behind if you don't find just the right one.  I'm so happy I found Thove -
he had a brother and a sister who were promised, otherwise I probably would
have taken them all, they were that cute.
   I also must unfortunately relay that I had a horrible time at the humane
society here in Portland.  I'm in the process of writing a tactful, but
"demanding an explanation" type of letter to those in charge, and will copy it
to you all when it's finished.  I know they have to be concerned and careful of
who adopts pets, but the way I was treated was absolutely "inhumane" to say the
least.  More on this issue at another time.  I still have to get through the
rest of my work day, and if I dwell on this subject any more, I will get so
upset I might start making phone calls.
Does anyone know who the top person is that supervises the Humane Society's
operation?  Don't we pay for it through our taxes?  I'm mad!!
Anyway -- Cheers to you all -- Pamela
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh)
Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: bl
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:25:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.205007.22367@noao.edu> morin@noao.edu (Marg Morin) writes:
>>>A 21 can salute to the soon-to-be-resident cat in the White House,
>>>Socks!  When (if ever) was the last time there was a cat in the
>>>White House?
>>
>>The Carters had a White House Cat, so the last one left in 1980.
>>
>>Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
>>Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
>
>Does this mean that Democrats are cat people while Republicans
>are dog people?
>-- 

Actually, this is a very good question, and one for which I would love to
hear some responses.

I have had numerous discussions with my dog-loving, liberal feminist friend
(nameless, for her sake) regarding the merits (politically and otherwise)
of those drool-machines she loves so much.

I count myself a liberal and have a definite preference for the independent
minded feline.  I consider dogs to be much like the Republicans, too easily
trained to do tricks for master.  This is not to say that I don't love them
too; they are great to play with and wrestle with, but I wouldn't want to
live with one (too hard to maintain, to noisey).  Do I mean the dogs or
the Republicans...?  you figure it out!


Enjoy,

Jeremy

-- 
  (\_/)          " Love to eat them mousies,
  |* *|              Mousie's what I love to eat.
  \>Y</            Bite they little heads off...
   `U'               Nibble on they tiny feet."       B.Kliban `75
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Nimtz.1@nd.edu (Rick Nimtz)
Subject: Raw pork ok for cats?
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: U of Notre Dame, Educational Media
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:22:55 GMT

Is it ok to feed cats raw pork?


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Rick Nimtz                              INTERNET: Richard.D.Nimtz.1@nd.edu
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From: 00kacohn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: What to name a black male kitten...
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:46:50 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

post
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: steve@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Steve Bridges)
Subject: Re: Kitty's 1st christmas!
Organization: NCR Corporation -- Law Department
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:38:04 GMT

lhuffman@stsci.edu writes:

>In article <1992Nov9.120056.9798@news.cs.indiana.edu>, "angela allen" <angie@moose.cs.indiana.edu> writes:
>> janet@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>>>our cat (9 months in December) will be experiencing his first
>>>Christmas this year. Any suggestions how we can keep our Christmas
>>>tree and our sanity in tact?
[lot's of stuff deleted...]

My parent's 17 year old Maine Coon (who just passed away a month ago) just 
loved having a tree inside -- he was an indoor/outdoor cat, and the idea of 
being able to stretch out under a pine tree without having to go outside where 
it was cold made his day.

Hanging small ornaments under the tree where he could swat at them made him
happy -- one hint -- don't use the standard wire hangers -- use cloth
instead.

One other hint -- if you use some additive to the water to keep the needles
on longer, make sure your cat (or other house pets) can't get to the water.

One last hint -- if your cat likes to sleep under the tree- set aside a
"special" place for them.

Steve
-- 
Steve Bridges, Programmer/Analyst| NCR - Law Department, WHQ-5
steve@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM   ___| Phone:(513)-445-4486 622-4486 (VOICEplus)
Sci.military moderator        | "The airplane does not recognize attitude,
providing a maneuver is conducted at one G" -- A.M. "Tex" Johnston
From: meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael E. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What to name a male BLACK kitten...
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:18:15 GMT
Reply-To: meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael E. Hoffman)

Well, you could name him Stealth, as I did my black kitty.  But you probably
shouldn't, since he's very proud of his name, and I wouldn't want him to
be jealous . . .

--Mike (& Stealth)
meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Cheryl Dragel)
Subject: Re: cat food/boarding questions
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:27:05 GMT

In article <Qf0MIsO00iV086T2QK@andrew.cmu.edu>  writes:
> 
> When I adopted Gracie in August she had just recovered from a urinary
> tract infection (brought on, they think, by stress because she had been
> returned twice in 4 months to the adoption place and was there for 3
> months before I discovered her and took her).
> 
> Anyway, the people there told me to make sure I buy cat food with a
> low ash content because this will help to prevent the infection from
> recurring.  However, when I took Gracie to the vet in September,she
> said that ash content has nothing to do with it and I should buy
> food that has no magnesium in it.

I think magnesium is the thing to avoid.  Minerva once had a
urinary tract infection, and we switched her to Science Diet
(previously she'd been on Cat Chow regular).  It's my impression
that brands such as Science Diet and Iams have less magnesium
content than even commercial brands that purport to have 
lowered levels.

> How do other folks deal with boarding their cats?  I'd rather do this  
than
> have a friend come to my house once a day for 10 minutes of feeding and
> playing; at least at the Pet Resort she'll get more attention even  
though
> she'll be in a cage (and I'm permitted to take along personal effects,
> such as toys and her favorite blanket -- which used to be MINE. :)  I
> want to enjoy my trip (because I really need it!!) but I know she'll be
> on my mind during all my waking hours.

We once boarded Minerva for a week and a half while we were on
our wedding trip.  She survived, but she wasn't happy about it.
When my family used to board our dog when I was a kid, she
never came back with the toys we left there at the kennel with
her.  You may not want to bring Gracie there with an absolutely
*favorite* toy, lest the toy not return with her.  Would it
be possible to have a friend come in more than once a day
(or better yet, to live in your place while you're gone)?
From what I've heard, even the cat's being alone for a week
will be less stressful than being put in a strange environment
without you.  Good luck.

--cheryl
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: "angela allen" <angie@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Kitty's 1st christmas!
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:59:43 -0500

janet@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
>our cat (9 months in December) will be experiencing his first
>Christmas this year. Any suggestions how we can keep our Christmas
>tree and our sanity in tact?

Use non-breakable ornaments, and tie them onto the tree with ribbons
instead of just hanging them there with hooks. If you have a tall
tree, consider putting a plant-hanger hook in the ceiling directly
above the tree, then tie the top of the tree to the ceiling hook with
clear fishing wire. Beware of lights or anything with long strings
(especially icicles!). Be sure the cats don't drink from the water at
the base of a real tree--- the pine oil is poisonous to them.

It may seem to crimp your style to have to arrange the tree so
differently just because of the cats. The way I see it, the tree is
for family enjoyment, and the cats will probably enjoy it even more
than the humans (especially if it's smelly, i.e. real). 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: adwright@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: Cats on Long Car Trips
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:44:45 GMT

How a cat behaves depends a lot on the personality. The mild tranquilizers help
. We took three cats on two nine hour drives in two days (Missouri to 
Pennsylvania) we kept them in carriers and kept cat litter on the bottom of 
carrier with a little carpet pad to sit on. We NEVER let them out of the 
carrier during the trip unless we brought them into a lockable rest room. Then we would let them have a pit stop (they hated to use the litter in their own
carrier, but would if necessary). Fifi never shut up during the whole trip.
Later we found she had not swallowed the tranquilizer, but did a good job of
pretending she did and spit it out when she was put back in the carrier :(
Scrappy was real quiet (and scared) and just curled up into a ball. Ms Kitty
was somewhat in between. 
Have fun !
Allen
From: krissie@locus.com (Krissie Griffiths)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: WHAT TO NAME A WHITE MALE KITTEN
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:45:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: locus.1992Nov05.194524.697798
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California

In article <1992Nov4.123705.1@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com> mellum@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com writes:
>
>How about "Shadow"?  Not your typical name for a white cat.

 i must have been brain dead here on the first pass.  my gabrielle is pure
white, long hair one blue one green eye.  her first name is midnight.  again
a play on words as in shadow.

but she realized that she is quite beautiful, stunning actually, and held out
for me to begin calling her "gabrielle."

kg


-- 
so what if i am a vegan?  so what if i try to live a cruelty free lifestyle?
i'll tell you what, i sleep better at night knowing that nothing suffers for
anything i eat or wear and i try to use products that have not involved 
animal testing.  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt)
Subject: Re: What to name a male BLACK kitten...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:36:27 GMT


I named my little guy Chorny.  It, umm, rhymes with horny, althought I 
didn't realize it at the time. It's Russian for black, sort of.
His full name is Chorninky which is "little black one".   At six
months old there's not as much black in his fur anymore.  Mostly a think
black streak down his back.  Well his tail, (the tip however is white),paws
and pads are black as well.  Actually his pads look like little coffee 
beans.  Also, he'll eat just about anything, including yogurt, toast with
jam, breakfast cereal and pizza.  My other cat, Calvin, (so I was thinking
of naming Chorny either Klien or Hobbes at first), is very finiky.
Oh, they're also members of the cat wrestling fedation.

This was my first post, so I guess i've just introduced my babies.

BTW they also love bath tubs, sinks, and sleeping whereever they damn well
please.

John Erhardt
jte@ihlpm.att.com

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hagel@stsci.edu
Subject: Re:  Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:24:49 GMT

I remember that Amy Carter had a Siamese, but I can't think of the name.
Come to think of it, Reagan & Bush are confirmed dog people...

Crystal Hagel
From: 00kacohn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: What to name a BLACK male kitten...
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:19:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: bsu-ucs.1992Nov13.101912.11867
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


     Sorry about the two botched posts; I'm just learning how to use this
system.

     I've been following the black cat names thread, but I haven't seen my own
favorite listed.  My black male cat is named Yain, a name that I found in
Shirley Jackson's _Raising Demons_.  I have no idea what it means, but I always
thought that it seemed particularly good for a large black cat; I think it 
suits mine quite nicely...

Casey
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:57:41 GMT

In article <2620@cronos.metaphor.com> pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens) writes:
>
>A 21 can salute to the soon-to-be-resident cat in the White House,
>Socks!  When (if ever) was the last time there was a cat in the
>White House?
>


The Carters had a White House Cat, so the last one left in 1980.

--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kitty@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jennifer)
Subject: help for my little kitten
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:10:14 GMT

            
I have two little kittens and a 1_1/2 year old cat.
This started out that when we first got the three cats from the Humane
Society.  At first the big cat, Blackfire, had a fever and a terrible
cold.  After Blackfire is recovered from the terrible cold, the two little
things started sneezing.  Sable has pretty much recovered from the cold 
now except a little watering at his right eye.
Spring is the problem.  When she just arrived our house, she was totally
energizing.  she would climb and lay her little feet on anything she could
get onto.  But now, all she does is lying on top of the heater vent and
sleep.  I took her in to the vet and she has been on antibiotics for
more than 3 weeks and on some respiratory pills for almost a week.  Still
I see no sign of recovering.  Not only she is not recovering, this morning
I saw one of her eye has started getting watering.  Spring still eats some
cat food but she breaths like a piggy now.  I am really worry about her.

Is there anybody out there that have this kind of experience ?  

thanks

kitty cat
kitty@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

ps.  please reply to this account.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Cheryl Dragel)
Subject: Re: Cats on Long Car Trips
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:08:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.134200.193@inet.d48.lilly.com>  writes:
> 
> I am planning on taking Dempsey and Thatcher home to Grandma's house
> over the Christmas holidays in the car.  (Grandma loves
> grandkitties!)  The trip will be about 5 1/2 to 6 1/2 hours
> depending on the weather.  They have never been in the car for more
> than 1/2 hour at a time (to go to the vet) and Dempsey cries like a
> baby the whole time.  Any suggestions for making this trip as
> painless as possible for all involved?  What do I do about kitty pit
> stops and refueling (food)?

Pyewacket & Minerva have been on several long car trips:
from Pittsburgh to Chicago, from Pittsburgh to North 
Carolina, etc.

The morning of a trip, we do not feed them any solid food,
although their water is left out until we leave.  This
has helped to prevent any car sickness, which we have 
friends who experienced car sickness in their longhaired
Himalayan (messy!).  

Anyway, they both fit into the same *large* Pet Taxi
type cat carrier.  We have a towel folded up in there
so it's soft.  Pyewacket meows for about 20 mins. or so
when we first start out, but then she quiets down when
she figures out we're not going to the vet.  Generally,
they just sit or lay quietly the whole way.  The first
couple times we took them on car trips, we would try
getting them to make pit stops (in a makeshift portable
litter box, and by trying to get them to eat or drink
something).  But they have *never* wanted to do any of
this.  I think they just want to get to their destination
and out of the car.  ;- )  

I think it's a good idea to keep them in a carrier
during a car trip.  This prevents them from crawling
around by the pedals of the car, from being thrown
around in case of sudden stops, and from dashing out
of the car when you stop.

Cats probably should be left at home if you can do it,
but this is what's worked for us when we couldn't find 
cat care for a week or two at a time.

--cheryl
From: MISAXM1@kentvm.kent.edu
Subject: Re: That new clumping litter ...
Organization: Kent State Univ.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:04:03 GMT

In article <4126@unisql.UUCP>
collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce) writes:
 
>
>In article <2AF5AEEC.10631@ics.uci.edu> tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
>>In <4110@unisql.UUCP> collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce) writes:
>>
>>>In article <shari.720465772@rlxdev> shari@modcomp.uucp (Shari Bernhard) writes:
>>>>I haven't seen any of the multitude of posts mention Litter Purrfect which
>>>>I get a COSTCO (wholesale club) for $4.59 a jug.  It's the best I've tried.
>>
>>>Wow!  You pay $4.59 a jug?  Is it a big jug or just one of the usual
>>>7lb. (milk jug) varieties?
>>
>>Looked cheap to me.  Around here, I never see less than $10 a jug of
>>scoopable litter, any brand.  Part of the reason I don't use the stuff.
>
>Ok.  I had to make sure I wasn't going crazy.  I checked the prices on
>the stuff I buy and here it is:
>
>  In Austin, TX:
>  Lasting Pride - $5.98 (22lbs) at Sam's Wholesale Club.
>  Scoop Fresh   - $6.98 (16lbs) at the grocery store.
>  Scoop Away    - $2.99 (7lbs) at the grocery store.
>
>I think those prices are reasonable and all these brands work for me
>just fine.  I can't imagine paying $10 a jug for litter; I'd rather
>teach Tamora to use the john.  ;-)
>
>I wonder what people pay for the stuff in other areas of the country?
 
In Fairlawn, Ohio (A suburb of Akron which is 50 miles or so south of
Cleveland)  I pay $ 3.99 for a milk jug size (not sure how many lbs.)
of Scoop Away, and other store brands are comparable varying no more than
a dollar.
 
Toni
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine)
Subject: Re: Multiple fathers?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:49:09 GMT

lhuffman@stsci.edu writes:

>> My question is this, during the converstation, my mom said that 
>> cats would have two different fathers to one litter. What she was 
>> unsure of, is wether the litter itself can have two fathers, or if 
>> an actual kitten can have two fathers. Does anyone know anything 
>> about this? I thought it was really bizarre, but it really makes 
>> sense with Seagrams.

>Absolutely! There can be as many different fathers as there are kittens. 

Human fraternal twins can have different fathers, too. There was
a case in Germany of a woman giving birth to twins, one black,
one white...
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: young@serum.kodak.com (Rich Young)
Subject: Re: Any Good "natural" food for cat beside canned one??
Originator: young@sasquatch
Reply-To: young@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Clinical Diagnostics Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 13:22:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.015459.16452@trl.oz.au> hui@apaturia.trl.OZ.AU (Alvaro Hui) writes:
>Hi,
>   I found that my cat is getting sick of canned & dry
>food and I want to give her some change....:) :)
>
>   Any good food recommendations beside those specially made
>for cats ( i mean those 'pet' food off the self )??
>
>  All I can think of is milk and other diary products...
>
>  Also, how can I make sure she get enough vitamins/minerals...
>  The reason I give her 'pet' food all the time because
>those food is advertised to contain xxx, yyyyy, ttt which
>is essential to healthy cats....

	Is there some ethical or aesthetic objection to plain old "pet"
	food?  If not, then it's probably the best thing you can feed
	your cat.

	Cats have specific and unique nutritional requirements which are
	easily met with normal pet foods from reputable companies (at least
	in the U. S.), but which take some care and planning if one is to
	resort to non-commercial dietary choices.  There ARE good home-made
	cat food recipes, but they require some attention to detail.  Why
	bother when there are so many good foods commercially prepared?

	With respect to dairy foods: don't.  At least in large quantities.
	The huge majority of adult cats are lactose intolerant, and will
	get diarrhea and gas if fed dairy products in any quantity.

	As a final note: in MY experience, the more you treat your cat to
	a wide variety of tasty tidbits, the more finicky it'll get.  I
	think they get used to the variety and learn to expect it, which
	is OK, but it makes feeding time an exercise in precognition for
	the unfortunate human who must guess kitty's constantly-changing
	dietary preferences.


-Rich Young (These are not Kodak's opinions.)
From: morin@noao.edu (Marg Morin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: WHAT TO NAME A WHITE MALE KITTEN
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:04:32 GMT
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ

>>
>Wasn't it the movie "Logan's Run" that said cats had three names? An everyday
>name, a fancy name, and the name that they call each other, but they never
>tell anyone that one. (or something to that effect).
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>|            Brad Barton -- brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org          |
>|  "No matter how hard you throw a dead fish into the water,  |
>|   it still won't swim."    -- Marian Stevens                |
>---------------------------------------------------------------

T.S. Elliot

or more well known from 'Cats' - the musical

-- 
 MARG MORIN  "Call me M"		(morin@noao.edu)  
	aka: The Seeker   		 AURA/NOAO Tucson, AZ
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