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From: map@cs.brown.edu (Mike Perkowitz)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Has anyone heard the new 808 State?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 21:29:12 GMT
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
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[a lot of panting and slobbering deleted] ;)

from what i heard a little while back (on rec.music.industrial, i believe),
there is a new 808 single out called, i think, 2x10. no one i know or know of
has seen, heard, or heard of someone who has seen, heard or heard of... this
single, so it may be groundless rumor. also, word is, 808 is in the studio
working on the next album. 
martin price has apparently left 808 to work on his own things.
or so i've heard.

hope this well-grounded and definitive information proves helpful.

drooling for the new 808 as much as the rest of you,

mike


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From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Subject: Re: Some questions on rave making (Fog)
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 03:21:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <4062@news.duke.edu> jtrue@acpub.duke.edu (john) writes:
>
>I was wondering this myself.  It seems like the fog machines I've seen
>in clubs give off a smoky smell.  I was wondering how feasable using 
>dry ice (I assume some smoke machines use this)
>or liquid nitrogen and fans or blow dryers would be.  I'm
>interested in cheap/low-tech effects.

Generally, there's hot fog and cold fog.  Cold fog is water vapor
created by dumping dry ice into water, so it is "real" fog in a
way.  It sinks, though, which is why it's not really popular in
theatrical productions.  Theatres use hot fog, which is produced by
a machine (not cheap, but you can rent one) that vaporizes 
special gunk.  No, it's not really harmful unless you were stuck in
a sealed box breathing it, but it's not pleasant to breathe,
either.  It's not real fog (water vapor formed on airborne
particulate); it's smoke.  It'll give you a coughing fit if you get
a snootful, sez the man who's been on many stages trying to say his
lines and not hack.  The reason it is used is that it rises,
whereas cold fog hugs the floor.  Hot fog is not a ravey thing.

Cheap and low tech is strictly the dry ice method.  Blow dryers
would destroy cold fog by evaporating the water vapor, but fans
work fine if you think you need 'em.  Cold fog expands pretty darn
quickly and I think the effect of it creeping up on you is pretty
cool.  The problem most people have is not containing it.  It'll
creep to the lowest point of the floor, and if you don't contain it
it'll keep seeping away.  But! if you put a little border up around
your dance floor, say a 1 foot high poly skirt, it'll fill up the
area up to about mid calf and last for quite a while.

Two ways to use it in a rave that would be cool:

   Run about a 4 foot skirt around your dance floor, fill it with
   fog, and shoot lasers through lenses (so you spread the beam)
   from the floor up through the fog.  Should get the effect of
   dancing in a glowing cloud.  I've never seen this done, but if
   someone tries it in San Francisco, let me know.

   Put your water buckets up above head height and let the fog
   dribble down on the crowd.  Usually the buckets are down on the
   floor because the fog dissipates too rapidly to fall down to the
   floor, but if you used *a lot* of ice you should get this vapor
   rain effect.  Which would be cool, literally, because cold fog
   is actually cold.  A nice way to cool off sweaty ravers.

The trick to getting a whole lot of dry ice fog really fast is to
crush the dry ice into chips before you dump it in the water.  It's
sort of a one-shot deal that way, but you get an instant cloud.
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Thanks
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:10:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

thanks to anyone who tried to help me with the lyrics i botched
of a female singing "i want to touch the sky"

it was NOT supernaut, which amazingly since i had that song on my mind
i typed those lyrics instead, 10 or so people suggested it was
there were acouple other ones that i'll have to dig up

but anyhow i still dont know the group that does it
it is HyperActive or something like that and the name is either
"Touch the Sky" or "High" i think it is high
and it is a great song to end a long hard dance session with
its a nice freeing type of song
--
If we were still going barefoot the world would be a
much softer place.
				   ,
IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rmaag@iiic.ethz.ch (Rolf Maag)
Subject: Re: Berlin Rave Scene (FRG.)
Keywords: berlin frg
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:56:00 GMT

i was in berlin a couple of weeks ago....and we spent the nights in a club
called LINIENTREU very close to bahnhof zoo...

if you like loud ebm music (such as nitzer ebb) you might check it out...
the prices are ok, however, the club is rather small


Xref: sparky alt.rave:1739 rec.music.misc:20162
From: mckinzie@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Mark McKinzie)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "Ask Alice...", anyone?
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:44:20 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

steve@cse.fau.edu (Steve Smith) writes:

>Just wondering if anyone knows who did that remix of the old '60s (I assume)
>psychadelic tune, "Go ask alice..."   I am not sure of the exact
>title but if anyone has this could you give me the details on where to find
>it? (ie comp, CD single, artist?)  It might be kinda old, I don't know...

Now that I see <alt.rave> in the title, I'm certain
you are not refering to Sanctuary's cover of "White 
Rabbit"  off  of their  first album.    In spite of 
having been produced by Dave Mustaine, the album is
uninteresting thrash metal, save for this one song.  



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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: Re: Some questions on rave making
Keywords: video feedback
Organization: Friends of Ted Milton
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:22:31 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.153921.2378@cco.caltech.edu> stuart@cco.caltech.edu (Stuart Wagner) writes:
>Just record the video feedback onto tape beforehand, then you don't 
>need to have the camera at the rave, just a vcr.  

Ah, but then it's not *interactive* anymore. And interactivity is the
hallmark of all my favorite rave experiences. Video feedback is kinda
dull to just watch, but wonderful to *play* with, moving your hands
around in between the camera and monitor. 

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| rej@bob.sal.wisc.edu  |  I like him just fine.
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From: ed@odin.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: Rave in Kansas City, MO?!
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:02:52 GMT

I was in Kansas City the last two days and saw a few fliers for what
looked to be a RAVE at the SHADOW on August 1st! 
 
Art there any kind squires in the KCMO area that could very-fie this for
me?  I'll try to post any conclusions I come to.  
 
The flier said "(something)
Rave"...blahblah...dance...dance...fun..fun...and at the end specified a
couple of djs...DJ DREAD was one, I know.  

Anyone have any info?  Will it only be 21+?  
 
Just a PS-and-by-the-way: THE SHADOW is a cool place if you're going to
KCMO...I saw MEATBEATMANIFESTO and CONSOLIDATED there last year...
 
...e
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Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:05:29 -0400 
From: Marcus Augustus Alzona <ma23+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Lords of Acid -> Commercial

I just saw on CBS's up-all-night-news...(dont ask why I'm up)

A new Pump bathing suit for women is out, where you can pump up the
bust(like the Pump shoes).

They showed a clip of the commercial that's going to be used to sell the
top. Guess what song was used for the commercial?

"I Must Increase My Bust" by the Lords of Acid.

Marcus

P.S. Know of any other techno tracks used in commercials?

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: robcamp@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Campanell)
Subject: SIGGRAPH ravers
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:56:09 GMT


Are there any ravers going to SIGGRAPH in Chicago?  

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: The Mystery of Todd Terry and Other Rave Anecdotes
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:25:39 GMT


clg1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Chris "deephouse" Gray) writes:
>Politix of Dancing	"I Know b/w Swirls"	Strictly Rhythm

>I think this is Northern California's first attempt to really break into
>the deep underground sound. The producers, DJ Digit of BPM Music Factory
>Fame, and DJ EFX, are stalwarts of the Bay Area underground. Not a fabulous
>entree, but pasasble.

Digit and EFX have their fingers in so many pies right now.  "Brainwaves" by
LSDJ-e is their attempt at hardcore.  The best work I've heard from them is
under the name STUDIO X.  They've got a 12" "Join The Tribe" b/w "Los Kings
Del Mambo" out on InFusion that I highly recommend.  Los Kings Del Mambo
gets *heavy* play at SF parties - it's the song with the repeated sample of
the guy singing, "and I told him not to do it..."  One of my biggest recent
thrills was hearing this track segued into my very own 12" at an event a few
weeks ago...

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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: kill morrissey?
Date: 26 Jul 1992 00:24:57 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

elee9tv@rosie.uh.edu (DANIEL) mercilessly writes:
>			What do you all think? Should I  mace him 
>		with hairspray and then beat him to death with a
> 		    slab of corn fed beef or what?

Naw, just remix him.

Seriously, a friend of mine did a techno remix of "That's Entertainment"
by backing it (It's mainly acoustic, no drums) with a Bomb the Bass song
"Love so True", I think; and it meshed perfectly, and there was a terrific
call-and-reply between his verses and the drum fills in the BTB song :)

He hates techno, so I guess this would have the same effect as what you 
propose....

	Brian


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: keeler@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Jason Keeler)
Subject: KLF - what happened?
Reply-To: keeler@hercules.uregina.ca (Jason Keeler)
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:01:09 GMT

Sorry about the last message, something happened to it.  Anyhow, about the "image" of the KLF, I was referring mostly to their appearance on the British Music Awards.  Was rather surprised to see more of a hard rock band versus a techno band.  Is this who the KLF really are (were?) or are they just into more styles of music than I am aware of?,
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: Re: "Ask Alice...", anyone?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Reply-To: ahawks@nyx.UUCP (andy)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 06:59:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.062215.8231@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> steve@cse.fau.edu
(Steve Smith) writes: 
|Just wondering if anyone knows who did that remix of the old '60s (I assume)
|psychadelic tune, "Go ask alice..."   I am not sure of the exact
|title but if anyone has this could you give me the details on where to find
|it? (ie comp, CD single, artist?)  It might be kinda old, I don't know...
|
|Also, I recall a remix of "Strawberry Fields" which was kinda funky, several
|years ago...
|_____________________________________________________________________________

Candy Flip did this one...Proved that the Beatles don't necessary have the
final word on music - this was way better than the original....

The other song yer referring to (I haven't heard a techno remake) is Jefferson
Airplane's psychedelic 60's classic...If you ever see the old video, watch the
lead singer's pupils....She's trippin balls...

|anyone?

beuller?  beuller?
[the effects of too much time spent growing up in the 80s in America ]

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From: rene@blade (Rene Bakx)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Sesame Street
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:51:55 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Yes, I heard it.
It's a bit childish like the dutch 'de rode schoentjes'.
And it's called Sesame's Treet or Sesame's Treat (I can't remember at
the moment).
Why not take Skin Up's Accelerate. It's much better than the Smart E's.

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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: alt.rave music site now available
Date: 30 Jul 1992 23:08:35 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
Summary: send me your reviews!


	Okay, since there's been a lot of traffic of both "I just picked this
up today - I like it" and "Any good recommendations" I thought it might be
good to set up an FTP site where people can get info about a particular
single or compilation or something they're interested in.  So I set up
soda.berkeley.edu /pub/sfraves/music.  Right now there are all 12 of Pete
Ashdown's XDZebra posts, plus an index of what music appears where. That
Index will be updated as people send me more reviews.  So if you have any
reviews you would like to see included at the site, place it in /pub/incoming
and add a .review appendage to it so I know it's for me.  It would be nice
to not repeat what's already there, unless you feel you have a different
slant on it.  Also, if you could provide a simple list of the records/CDs
you are reviewing in the whole file at the top, to keep the Index-maintaining
easier for me.  All techno/acid/house/trance/ambient music is acceptable.
If you don't have FTP access, you can mail me and ask me really nicely if
I could send you the Index, and then after deciding which files you want
ask again really nicely if I'll send 'em.

	Also, I created a directory called holdyourown/, which currently
has Pete's 4 posts about the raves he's held.  The idea is tha anyone on
the nets who's ever held a rave or helped put one on or anything would
contribute a lengthy description of what it was like.  This I feel is a more
efficient way (especially for me!) than trying to come up with a 
do-it-yourself FAQ. So far I don't have an index or readme for that 
directory, but I may get to it... remember, try to keep these posts long
so they can be of maximal help...

	Brian


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Nexus 21(Altern 8)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 15:59:42 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

clg1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Chris "deephouse" Gray) writes:

> Now I know someone has heard Nexus 21's "Self-Hypnosis" by now. 

Jesus, I hope so . . . it's been out since what, Spring '91 at least?

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: wipeout@grind.cheme.cmu.edu (DJ Wipeout!)
Subject: Re: GATORAVE in Pittsburgh, PA
Organization: Grind Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Keywords: GATORAVE rave metropol
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:27:52 GMT
X-Posted-From: grind.cheme.cmu.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul29.003608.13939@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mpisano@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael A Pisano) writes:
> GATORAVE in Pittsburgh
> 
> Note: I have no idea as to the status of this rave or the credibility of the
> promoters. It would be nice if we could get some solid info on the scope of
> this event and some assurance that this is a "true" rave and not a pseudo-club
> ravoid or something like that, but it seems legit to me.
> 
[flyer and cool ascii map deleted]

Well, here's what I know...

The place is a club, Metropol. Euphoria is a local guy, he's ok. I don't know if
the people putting on the rave are with Metropol or are just renting the place
from them (although alcohol is being sold, so Metropol is getting their cut, at
least).

WHO KNOWS WHEN? I'm almost willing to bet that's about 2-3am when the normal bars
shut down. Pittsburgh is NOTORIOUS for not staying up late. (sucks) I personally
want to be there all night, and I hope it lasts till dawn.

DJ-wise the only DJ I know anything about is STROBE, and from what I've seen he's
not that great. (only saw him once though, everyone's allowed an off day :) 


I dunno. I think there are some other guys coming out from Cleveland that my
friends and I are s'posed to meet up with...

"Pittsburgh's first official hardcore rave" <- Who made it official.....
                                               The Olympics Commitee?

I'd like a crack at being behind the tables just the same.

DJ Wipeout!
wipeout@grind.cheme.cmu.edu
One of the Techno Terrorists
Live From The Deep Subs
WRCT Pittsburgh 88.3FM
8pm until we drop from exhaustion (usually around 5am or so)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mmk3@po.CWRU.Edu (Marla M. Kammer)
Subject: Re: NYC
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 22:18:41 GMT


I've heard that a new club called NASA is opening 7/245.  It's put on by DB.
I guess that it is for the true ravers.

I've also been cautioned about the Bones' raves in NYC.  I've heard that they
attract a lot of the wrong elements that are not wanted at raves, generally 
people with tough attitudes who like to cause trouble...

Marla
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From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: (@#$%&*$$%#@)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:42:40 GMT

In article <22JUL92.20702074.0044@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> D5JW000 <D5JW@UNB.CA> writes:
>     O.K., so I might be more illiterate than I thought, but by reading
>alt.rave. and other newsgroups, I see this little word(?) that bugs
>the HELL right out of me. You might laugh but I thought I'd ask
>anyway.
>     This little word(s) is/are spelled two ways:
>
>                            IMO, IMHO.
you forgot IMNSHOBWSIB?IAR

>     Could anyone tell me what they mean??

yeah, they mean In My Opinion or In My Humble Opinion
not really obvious stuff, but its just a little nicety disclaimer
or sometimes a vanity claim, but there it is

its also neat when people add to it and you can figure it out
(for ex: In My Not So Humble Opinion, But Why Should I Be? I'm Always Right)

>Thanks in advance.

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From: elee9tv@rosie.uh.edu (DANIEL)
Subject: Re: kill morrissey?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:00:00 GMT

In article <14srcpINN2ar@agate.berkeley.edu>, bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes...
>elee9tv@rosie.uh.edu (DANIEL) mercilessly writes:
>>			What do you all think? Should I  mace him 
>>		with hairspray and then beat him to death with a
>> 		    slab of corn fed beef or what?
> 
>Naw, just remix him.
> 
>Seriously, a friend of mine did a techno remix of "That's Entertainment"
>by backing it (It's mainly acoustic, no drums) with a Bomb the Bass song
>"Love so True", I think; and it meshed perfectly, and there was a terrific
>call-and-reply between his verses and the drum fills in the BTB song :)
> 
>He hates techno, so I guess this would have the same effect as what you 
>propose....
> 
>	Brian
> 


	The title can be 1. "Who shot morrissey?"
		         2. "morrissey is in heaven now."
			 3. "Is morrissey gay?"
			 4. "Who is morrissey?"
	  and finnally   5. "morrissey *is* dead"

     Dan  :)