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From: mfrankow@hamline.edu (Mike Frankowski)
Subject: Re: AAAAAAGHHHHHH! Wake up fingerd!
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:53:15 GMT

Chris Wells (Chris.Wells@purplet.demon.co.uk) wrote:
: Hi Linuxers,
: 
: OKAY! This is an Easy question:
: 
: Has anyone got finger to work from other machine to the Linux host? eg,
: finger @thishost, where "thishost" is a 486DX33 8Mb, running 0.99pl2.
: 
: All I get back is:
: 
: [thishost.linux.net]
: 
: 
: The same thing happens if I do a "telnet thishost 79".
: 
: Oh, and I'm running most of the latest SLS binaries.
: 
: 
: I would REALLY like to know what the matter is.
: Furthermore I can't get talk to work "Destination machine does not recognise 
: us", or something like that.
: 
: Telnet, and FTP work almost perfectly. (Okay, Telnet expects ^J for a line 
: to be accepted, but most hosts I have used that have telnet send ^M. 
: Similarly for ^? and ^H ).
: 
: 
: PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE Reply (via email PLEASE to "cjw1@ukc.ac.uk". The host 
: is down at the moment which explains why I am using a Bulletin Board).
: 
: 
: Chris
: -----  

Easy to anser I think (if I am correct that is)

ln -s /usr/bin/finger /usr/local/bin/finger

and it should then work.

Mike
From: cnas30@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("St.John-Olcaytoe", Electrical Engineering)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: HELP!!! X-WINDOWS
Keywords: X386 Xmono etc etc
Date: 5 Jan 93 08:57:15 GMT
Reply-To: cnas30@ccsun.strath.ac.uk
Organization: Strathclyde University Computer Centre.

A Big Hi to the Linux Community,

I am using Linux v0.98.p15-41 (SLS 0.98p5).  I have been trying to get the
X Windows stuff to work without success.  Heres the hardware that I have

   1) 486DX running at 33Mhz
   2) Tseng ET4000 SVGA card with 1MB memory.

When I start X, the systen just hangs completely.  The keyboard is dead and
I'm 100% certain that all processes are dead.  The screen is a combination
of black (bottom) and white (top) with some dots here and there.

I have used X, X386 and Xmono all without joy.


I've tried a selection of modes in the Xconfig file using both the standard settings
found in the Xconfig given in the distribution but have played mostly with my own.
Both give the same results.  To calculate the settings for the modes, I've used 
modegen1.sc and modegen2.sc without success.

X can't even return the clock speeds when a mode in the modes line in the Xconfig
file is defined.  To circumvent this problem, I put a single non existent mode on
the modes line to force an error.  This indeed gave me the clocks.  I designed my
modes using these clocks.  I have included the clocks line in some attempts and omitted
then in others, all failing.

Is there anybody out there who could help ???

Thanks.

BTW Linux is a great OS !!!!!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hlu@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: Library 4.1 bug/feature?  fopen("fifo","a") fails
Organization: Washington State University!
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 10:49:39 GMT

In article <1igs2mINNdpp@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de writes:
>Is it a bug or a feature that fopen("fifo","a"), where "fifo" is a named
>pipe, fails with an 'illegal lseek' in the 4.1 version of the library?
>The opinion on comp.std.unix seems to be that there should be no
>problem...

That is a feature of stdio/kernel. I was told that according to ANSI
standard, fopen ("foo", "a") should do a lseek () to the end after
calling open (). But linux kernel refuses to any lseek () on
non-regular files. The fixes are

1. Change stdio such that ignore error from lseek (). I don't
   like this one.
2. Change kernel such that if a file can not lseek (), just return
   without error.
3. Change kernel such that if a file can not lseek (), just return
   with a special error which can be recognized by stdio that a
   lseek is requested on a non-suported file.
4. Change your source code to use fopen ("foo", "w').

I prefer (3). We need change one line in xxxxx__lseek () from

	return -EBADF;

to

	return -ELSEEK; or return -ESPIPE;

We can just add

#define 	ELSEEK	ESPIPE

BTW, some Unices just do (2). Try this one on your Unix machines.

----
#include <stdio.h>


int main()
{
  int i;

  for (i = 0; i < 3; i++) {
   if (lseek (i, 0, 2) < 0)
     perror ("lseek");
  }
}
----

H.J.
From: saxena@hal.COM (Nirmal Saxena)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux 0.98 SLS does not recogonize 20 M memory Config
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:34:21 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: fast.hal.com


==My original posting:

==In order to run X windows I installed additional 16Mbytes (4 4meg sims)
==of memory to my 486Dx/33Mhz system which already had 4 Mbytes of memory
==(4 1Meg simms). My AMI BIOS setup recognizes 20 Mbytes of memory but the
==linux (SLS 0.98 distribution) operating system recognizes only 16 Mbytes of
==memory. My configuration was 4M in bank0 and 16M in bank 1. Suspecting
==that linux does not support holes in memory space I tried 16M in bank 0 and 
==4 M in bank 1, even then only 16 Megabytes were recogonized.
==
==I will appreciate any help or pointers in this regard.

I want to thank you all for your responses. As most of you suggested,
I got the 0.99.2 sources, I aswered no to the question on
16M limit (during make config), recompiled the kernel and created a
boot image using `make disk`. Here is what happened when I rebooted
the system using the new boot Image.

 1. The system recogonized 20 Meg memory this time but the next
    thing it printed was " NMI received dazed and confused ..."

 2. The system continued and gave response to the effect that
    the memory map was lost and there was not enough buffer space.
    Then the system halted.

I thought I was not configuring the kernel properly so as an experiment
repeated the whole process rebooting of course from my old SLS 0.98
boot disks but this time limiting the memory to 16M, during make config.
This time the system booted correctly (of course recogonized only
16M) and everything seemed to work and X windows also worked
properly (from the x distribution in SLS 0.98). The only snag I noticed
was that the `free' command did not work.

Some additional facts:

   My original configuration was from SLS distribution ftp'ed from
   tsx-11.mit.edu. The gcc version I noticed was 2.2.2d. I am not
   sure about the shared library version.
From: joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu (Joe Panico)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SCSI disk geometry
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:08:42 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Neuroscience, U. of Pennsylvania


Hi Drew,

Great work on the SCSI drivers-- this has opened new venues for me. I'm
having a small problem. "fdisk sda1" will not let me change the partition
table until I feed it the disk geometry (hd,cyl,sect). What geometry does
linux want to see? Dummy values produce errors when I mkefs. If I use
the geometry provided by drive manufacturer (MAXTOR), I cannot make a 
single partition larger than something like 64M, even though I using
ext fs. What is the proper way to do this. If it helps, I'm running
SLS p5-49. Thanks very much for any help you can give me.

			Joe Panico
			joe@retina.anatomy.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lasse@Lise.Unit.NO (Lasse \verlier)
Subject: Re: Kernel FP Math bug?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 00:08:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.144510.9590@walter.cray.com>, rsocia@alberti.cray.com (Rick Socia) writes:
 > I compiled the following program:
 > 
 > main(int argc, char *argv)
 > {
 >   double f;
 > 
 >   f = atof(argv[1]);
 >   printf("The answere is %f\n", f);
 > }
 > 
 > The core dumps.  (passing an argument of "0.50").
 > 

Not strange since the argument passed should be 42 :-)

 > -- 
 > 
 > Rick Socia

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mbeattie@black.ox.ac.uk (Malcolm Beattie)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: It's installed, now what?  (was Re: A flight of marketing fancy)
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:55:39 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Service, 13 Banbury Rd, Oxford, U
Originator: mbeattie@black

In article <C0JK4G.HIH@jti.com> richb@jti.com (Richard Braun) writes:
>
>I think this approach is limiting.  It has led to such monumental
>efforts as MIT Project Athena which have produced far fewer spinoffs
>than were originally intended.  (How many people here know that X
>Window is *not* an Athena spinoff?  Or that the Athena environment
>still runs in exactly one place--the MIT campus?)

I'd just like to correct this point. There is a pilot Athena
project here at Oxford and also at Cardiff, Essex and a number
of other places in the U.K.

--Malcolm

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jorton@netcom.com (John T. Orton)
Subject: Fdisk problem with Adaptec 1742 SCSI Controller
Followup-To:  jorton@netcom.com
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:40:05 GMT



   I also am a 1742 EISA SCSI user that is having the same problems 
with the fdisk command as others with the latest SLS release.
   I am in ENHANCED MODE.

   fdisk /dev/hda  
   unable to read hda    <--- + tried all permutations hda1..
   fdisk /dev/sda
   unable to open sda             "     "      "       sda1..

   I have noticed that during the a1 boot phase, I get:
   scsi : 0 hosts.
   scsi : detected 0 SCSI disks

   Of course, fdisk is being executed in a2 utility phase 
as per SLS instructions.  No combinations work.

   Eric et. al. any advice ?  other than `fdisk /dev/sda'

   486 33Mhz Micronics EISA, Adaptec 1742A in [ENHANCED MODE], Maxtor XT8760S
                                                                  (670MB)
   Thank you.
   jorton@netcom.com
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Sunday, 10 Jan 1993 05:13:37 CET
From: BARRY TITMARSH <BTITMARS@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: UUX UUCP and SMAIL problems

Im still looking for a satifactory responce to a Question as to why.
when useing the SMail to mail out of linux with SMTP my UUX process
gets killed signal 11  and the daemon bounces the mail back to the postmaster
with error 143 UUX transfer killed with signal 11..
Some have said to recompile the UUCP bins with -fwriteable-strings
others have said use the new taylor patches on sunsite,
Well i have used both... It still returns all my mails sig 11 killed
I have recompiled UUCP Smail-3.1.28 ELM 2-3 pl11 and all...
makes NO a difference.  The only version of the Linux that did work fine
was the Old SLS 0.98p1 up to and inc 0.98p4 once i get above 0.98p4
ALL smtp mails are bounced back UUX killed signal 11 !!!
SO Whats UP and Whats the WORKING Fix!!! Please.
Barry.
Well Thoughts ????
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: New installation woes
From: David Pincus <PINHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Saturday, 9 Jan 1993 06:38:53 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi all, I finally got around to installing linux. here's my stats:
80386/33 AMD
80387 Cyrix
AMI bios
1.44, 1.2 meg floppy
WD2200 210 meg IDE on generic adapter
Realtek vga w/256k
Zenith ZCM-1490-Z vga monitor (I get only 640x420 bbecause of 256k in dos)
Colorado jumbo 250 internal tape drive (off floppy cable)
Mitsumi CD-ROM
8megs ram

Linux 0.98 pl5 SLS release, full system installed

While installing (I made one huge exfs) all went fine until disk b5, where
I got the following error:
   tar:Could not create symlink to /user/bin/smaildone
the installation was not interrupted though, It continued to completion.
How do I add a user? I've followed the FAQ and although I edit /etc/passwd
with vi and save itand then create a home directory, I can't chown the
directory. I get a "mynewuser is not a valid user"????

Also: can I run X with my setup? (ie my 256k realtek vga card and zenith
monitor which maxes out at 800x600 if I had more vga memory)
And if so how do I go about doing it? I can't figure it out from
the FAQ.

Thanx in advance. pinhc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gwj@sbctri.sbc.com (Gregg W. Jensen)
Subject: ctype question
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 15:36:19 GMT

This is probably an easy one...
I was trying to compile something last night that had an unresolved
external __ctype_.  Looking in the file that uses _ctype_ was the code:

(this was near the top of the file)
#ifndef _ctype_
#ifdef _ctype
#define _ctype_ _ctype
#else
extern char _ctype_[];
#endif
#endif

and the line that actually uses _ctype_:
        if (!((_ctype_+1)[i]&(020|01|02|04|0200)) || col > end_col)
            bell();

Is there something else that should be here?  In the include file ctype.h
there
is a _ctype_b, is this what I need?

Gregg Jensen

IF MAIL BOUNCES: send replies to gj9362@smaug.sbc.com !!!!
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: DOS emulation
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:24:18 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1993Jan07.221850.37109@watson.ibm.com> rajat@watson.ibm.com (Rajat Datta) writes:
> [towards the end of a general dos emulator that can run in the background]
>All in all, I suspect doing full software VGA (and SVGA) emulation is
>not very attractive.

That's what I thought, at first.  But the more I think about it, the
more I think this is exactly what we should do.  Currently, the VC
scheme emulates the text buffer.  If the kernel emulated the full
SVGA, any program could make full use of the SVGA.  It would allow:

	o  X to run on one (or more) VC's with the others in text mode
	o  Different video modes on different VC's
	o  other graphics programs (dosemu) to run on VC's
	o  Running graphics programs over a serial tty*
	etc.

Comments?

(*)  The way I see it, if we set up excape sequences for common VGA
operations (goto such-and-such text mode, etc.) it will not be
difficult to run DOS programs that use such features over a serial
tty, so long as the remote terminal can emulate the functions.

-Joel
(joel@wam.umd.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jahke@amoeba.stgt.sub.org (Thilo Jahke)
Subject: X11 EMail-Reader ?
Keywords: X11 Mail xmail
Organization: Private Linux BBS
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:26:41 GMT

Hi,

I would like to have a X based Mail-Reader for Linux!

Has someone got 'xmail' or another X-Mail-Reader to compile under Linux ?


The linker reports that I'm missing two library functions:

parser.o: Undefined symbol _compile referenced from text segment
parser.o: Undefined symbol _advance referenced from text segment
make: *** [xmail] Error 1
 
Can someone help ? 

Thanks, Thilo

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      /       EMail: jahke@amoeba.stgt.sub.org     /
     +--------------------------------------------+
From: geek+@CMU.EDU (Brian E. Gallew)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: System crashes
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:53:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0fHMRX200WAvQ1Wggk
Organization: Administrative Computing & Info Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Ever since I upgraded to 0.99, I have been having strange and
unpredictable system errors.  The *easiest* way for me to generate is
to try to cd /usr/src/linux and make Image.  The system will compile 5
or 6 files and then I will get an error of some sort.  I've seen *all*
of the following (from memory, sorry):

cc1 got signal 11
cc1 got signal 6
make: unknown process 1607 finished
nr_free_pages=330, but free_page_list is empty!
quiet core dumps from gcc/make
make hanging (i.e. the current compile finishes, but make doesn't
notice it)
two different errors in make, both of which tell me to let HJ or
(null) know about it so he can fix it.

Also, if I open a shell in one VC, switch to another and do something
that uses lots of memory, and then switch back to the first one, the
first one will usually exit at the first keystroke and present me with
the login prompt again.

I *also* get unkillable processes which use up 98% of their CPU
cycles.  Kill -9 doesn't do anything for them, and their state is R.
Any pointers?

Configuration:
40MHz 386
0.99p1 (trying to build 0.99p2, but it takes a long time a 5 files
compiled per invocation)
4MB Ram (70ns)
2 80MB ST-296N HDs (SCSI)
Seagate ST-01 SCSI Adapter
/lib/libc.so.4 -> hard link to /lib/libc.so.4.2
/lib/libc.so.4.0 -> hard link to /lib/libc.so.4.2
/lib/libc.so.4.1
/lib/libc.so.4.2 (from libc.so.4.2.Z on sunsite)
gcc 2.3.3
bash -> libc.so.4.1
most things on my system use libc.so.4.1, some use libc.so.4.2

                                  -Brian

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mcallist@logdis1.sm.aflc.af.mil (Ron McAllister)
Subject: X/mouse
Reply-To: mcallist@logdis1.sm.aflc.af.mil (Ron McAllister)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:54:41 GMT

Hi.  I succesfully installed the SL
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon)
Subject: Re: Seyon 1.7
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:20:49 GMT

In article <1ihdh1INNki3@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:

>I not trying to say people shouldn't post problems here, but use your
>heads first. If its a unix question in general, post it to a general
>unix group. 

Thanks, James, I'll keep that in mind.  But if you practice what you
preach (i.e., use your head first), you would have noticed that how to
use tar was only a side issue here.  On the other hand, the fact that
the tar man page does not work IS a Linux issue that might be of
interest to more than one person.  So is the issue of Seyon in the Linux
environment, judging from some prior posts regarding Seyon.

But I do agree that far too many questions are asked here that have been
answered time and time again.  However, not the ones I asked.

Thanks for your response,
Joe Pannon
From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Some minor problems.
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: john.will@satalink.com (John Will) 

- My panic has subsided, I finally figured out what the /etc/wtmp file is. 
  Now I have a question for those folks that are using serial terminals 
  and getty, does anyone know why if I have a serial terminal configured, 
  but don't connect it, that I'd get continuous login entries into the 
  wtmp file?  Overnight, the file grew to 7 megabytes in size, and the 
  system was doing nothing.  If I connect a terminal, the file stops  
  growing.  Is there some handshake parameters I need to set to keep 
  the terminal handler from getting confused?  I've commented the serial 
  terminal out for the time being, but it was handy to have in case X-Windows 
  went south, I still had access. 
   
- Another problem, not related.  I rebuilt the kernel, and found out that 
  top, free, etc. stopped working.  I've been told that's because they reach 
  into kernel memory for their information, and when I rebuild, the locations 
  change.  That being the case, where do I get the source for those so I 
  can make them match the kernel?  I'm a bit surprised they aren't on the 
  SLS distribution, since it seems you can't rebuild without them.  Am I 
  missing something really basic?  Keep in mind that I'm new to Linux/Unix, 
  so I can do really stupid things at times. :-)  I extracted the SLS 
  distribution kernel image from the a2 disk and am using that until I can 
  figure out how to get the utility sources and get them working again with 
  my customized version. 
   
- I have X-Windows running with olwm (actually olvwm), all is well except 
  that it seems scroll bars have a serious bug.  When I turn on scroll bars 
  for an xterm and use them more than once or twice, the keyboard becomes 
  unresponsive (dead), and the mouse keeps the up/down cursor shape for 
  the scroll bar and is otherwise useless.  I can move that cursor all over 
  the screen, but I can't do anything with it.  Is this a known problem, or 
  is it something peculiar to my setup? 
   
- Finally, a minor question.  How does one go about modifying the  
  configuration for the build to turn off the NumLock key by default? 
  I'd like to do that next time I build the kernel. 
 
- I was kinda' surprised that there's no manual page for fsck, is there 
  any documentation for it with Linux?  It seems that the Unix books I 
  have document different command line switches, so it would be nice 
  to find a document that describes this particular implementation. 
 
From the looks of this, you'd think I was having major problems, but 
overall, I'm very impressed with how easily Linux comes up, probably 
because the SLS package includes everything to get you going.
From: rapatel@theophilus.rutgers.edu ( Rakesh Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Q^3: tcsh6.03, mbase5.0, and strace give me problems
Date: 6 Jan 93 07:12:51 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

hooft@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Hooft) writes:

>I currently have three problems that I'm sure of other people can
>handle in a better way than I can.

>1) the linux-patches to tcsh-6.02 say they will be incorporated in the
>next version. BUT: tcsh-6.03 will not work unmodified. Something wrong
>with wait(), I think. Are new patches (or suggestions) available?

tcsh should work fine until you get to the libc.so.4.2 jumptable, but
that should not be a big deal because the binary that is available
was linked with the 4.1 jumptable. This means you want to leave it around
unless you rebuild tcsh.

I have built tcsh-6.03 under 0.99p2 with the new gcc (2.3.3) and
libc.so.4.2. The problem I had was discovering that sed had broken,
and once I recompiled sed, the build succeeded. I don't recall any
other problems.  It works fine except for possibly one problem with
pipes. I'm not sure yet whether that is a problem with tcsh or not
though.

Rakesh Patel.

-- 
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Network Services/NJIN Project, Telecommunications Division,
Rutgers University Computing Services (RUCS), Rutgers University