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From: 13501TMC@MSU (Tim Casey)
Subject: Internet question
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: 18 Nov 1992 13:50:41 EST

     Does anyone know the cost associated with getting Internet access from
home (i.e. a direct hookup compared to sharing time on a server)?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: marquis@netcom.com (Roger Marquis)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: PC/NFS vs Netware (and Vines, and ...)
Organization: Netcom 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:27:13 GMT


Any reasonable comparison of PC networkOSs wouldn't be complete
without looking at Banyan Vines as well as Novell and PC/NFS.  I migrated
a large department (100 nodes) from PC/NFS to Vines in about 2 weeks and 
found that administration time was about 1/8th what it had been.  Vines 
global naming (StreeTalk) makes managing 100s of users easy.  Novell is 
excellent for fewer than 3 servers or 200 users.  Any large network 
though is much easier to manage under Vines than anything else on the 
market.  This is verified in a study by the BRG (Business Research Group) 
which looked at Banyan, Novell, LAN Manager and Pathworks.  They found 
Vines networks need fewer administrators per user by a good margin.  
I manage both Sun and Vines networks (the 2 best, IMHO) and find each has 
its roll.  I also find that I have much less downtime and more 
functionality (email especially) than my friends who manage Netware, 
PC/NFS, AIX and especially Mac networks.

Roger (marquis@netcom.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell vs. Lan Manager, which one do I choose?
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:42:03 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <1992Nov12.132051.8471@uk03.bull.co.uk>, pmoore@hemel.bull.co.uk
(Paul Moore) says:
>
>>In article <74315@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt2768b@prism.gatech.EDU (JENGLUNG LIN)
>writes:
>>>Our department has a need to purchase a seperate network in addition to
>>>existing Novell IPX/NETX.
>>>
>>>Can anyone tell me about the pro and cons of purchasing another Novell or
>>>switching to Microsoft Lang Manager?
>>>
>>>Thanks in advance.
>
>My answer is dont touch LAN manager. It big slow complex hard to install on
>a PC , big on the PC, not so well supported by 3rd parties ....
>WHereas Novell is big fast complex to install easy to install on a PC, small
>on the PC and well supported ..
I support a PathWorks network (LanMan over DECnet) and I have experience with
NetWare. The answer to your question will depend very much on your needs, but
I will suggest that LanMan is built on top of NDIS, and if you're interested
running Multiple network protocols on your PC, NDIS has much broader 3rd
party support than Novells ODI. (This may change, but WFW may maintain this
advantage for NDIS).

One significant difference between LanMan and Novell is that LanMan is
much more peer-to-peer oriented. Novell sell server software, and give the
client away free (more or less). I can use public resources such as printers
or public directories on a PathWorks network without actually logging in,
and I can use several different password protected services at the same time
if I need to. I can arrange things so that I can login to the network, and
use those services I have been given access to. Note, I said login to the
network, not login to a server, which is what you must do with Novell.

But none of the above matters if NetWare provides services that you require
that LanMan doesn't. But only you can make that judgement.
>
>My opinions - not my company's

Aengus
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RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
ALAWLOR@EJOVAX.ENET.DEC.COM            (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
"How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
"Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.sys.misc,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: scoggin@opus.ee.udel.edu (John K Scoggin)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: PC/NFS vs Netware (and Vines, and ...)
Organization: Delmarva Power & Light, Newark
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:27:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.042713.10549@netcom.com> marquis@netcom.com (Roger Marquis) writes:
>
>Any reasonable comparison of PC networkOSs wouldn't be complete
>without looking at Banyan Vines as well as Novell and PC/NFS.  I migrated
>a large department (100 nodes) from PC/NFS to Vines in about 2 weeks and 
>found that administration time was about 1/8th what it had been.  Vines 
>global naming (StreeTalk) makes managing 100s of users easy.  Novell is 
>excellent for fewer than 3 servers or 200 users.  Any large network 
>though is much easier to manage under Vines than anything else on the 
>market.  This is verified in a study by the BRG (Business Research Group) 
>which looked at Banyan, Novell, LAN Manager and Pathworks.  They found 
>Vines networks need fewer administrators per user by a good margin.  
>I manage both Sun and Vines networks (the 2 best, IMHO) and find each has 
>its roll.  I also find that I have much less downtime and more 
>functionality (email especially) than my friends who manage Netware, 
>PC/NFS, AIX and especially Mac networks.
>
>Roger (marquis@netcom.com)

I will second that!  We have a medium-sized VINES network of about 900 users.
It takes relatively little administration - moving services (disk, print, etc)
from server-to-server is easy, and the users are none the wiser.  Connectivity
options abound.  If you like SCO Unix (have to admit, I'm lukewarm on it),
you can run VINES on a SCO system.  I'm just installing a test system with
this configuration now.

	- John

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Your milage may vary.  Void where prohibited by law (or common sense).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: rh0083b@medtronic.COM (Roger-Hunen)
Subject: NDIS driver for NI5210
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:09:01 GMT

Hi!

We have just received Netware Requester for OS/2 2.0. Unfortunately I
cannot find a driver (NDIS I presume) for our NI5210 cards. Can anybody
tell me where to get that driver?

Thanks in advance,
-Roger
From: tlopsal@cgate.sait.ab.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: 2.15 msg - Address change detected on FS8
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:35:30 -0600
Organization: Alberta Colleges and Technical Institutes Co-Operative

I'm getting an odd message on my Netware 286 2.15c fileserver. It's connected
to other campus systems via Ethernet.

Ther message is:        Address change detected for FS8.

This message appears approximately every minute or so. No other fileservers on
campus are getting this message.

I have looked up the message in the 2.15 SYSTEM MESSAGES manual and the
information wasn't very helpful. I looked up the error message in my 3.11
SYSTEM MESSAGES manual and it suggests that the TRACK ON feature has been
turned on.I have tried typing TRACK OFF on my 2.15 server but that doesn't
help.

Does anyone have any ideas with regards to what I can look for?

Tyler Opsal                    TLOPSAL@sait.ab.ca
Facility Coordinator
Thomas Riley Computer Centre
Southern Alberta Inst. of Tech.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dazz@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr D.K. Woodman)
Subject: Re: Etherlink III (3c509)
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:02:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.145051.21641@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dje@japan.Berkeley.EDU (Don Eilenberger) writes:

>I've installed several 3C509's in the past few weeks.. and have
>had NO real problems... the basic driver 3C509.COM is supplied on
>the disk that comes with it, but for those with no experience with
>3Com cards.. you've got to write a NET.CFG file that reflects this
>card. The ease of setting it up is enhanced by the fact that it is
>a jumperless card.. and all memory and interrupt settings can be
>modified with the NET.CFG file.
>
What sort of things do you put in the NET.CFG with regards to the 509
card? I have just plugged them in with the ipx.com generated from the
setup disk.

curious,
dazz


Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ernst@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Ernst Kloecker)
Subject: Disk Fragmentation (Speed Disk necessary) ???
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:33:19 GMT

Hi,

what happens if you create lots of directories and files, delete them and
do that again and again ?

Does the Netware file system get fragmented ?

If yes, is there anything like "Speed Disk" for Netware ?


Thanks for any info, Ernst.
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 10:08:34 EST
From: Michael E. Goldstein <GOLDSTN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Intel FTP site for Netport files?

Does anyone know if Intel has an anonymous ftp site for programs and
upgrades for the Netport II ?

Mike Goldstein
goldstn@maine.maine.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: peterh@netcom.com (Peter John Harrison)
Subject: Re: Public Domain/Shareware E-Mail Package for Novell?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:20:08 GMT

duane@intermec.com (Duane Charron) writes:

>Hi Net,
> Does anyone know of a Public Domain E-Mail system for Novell Lan's.  I really
>don't want to spend $500-1000 for a E-Mail System.  It doesn't have to be fancy
>just a basic package.  It doesn't even have to go outside of the Local Lan!.

>				Thanks


>				Duane

Pegasus Mail, or P-Mail for short, is a basic e-mail package available via
ftp from omnigate.clarkson.edu (and other places).  I've never used it, but
I know a few people who are very happy with it.

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Peter John Harrison           1522 Day Avenue, #A, San Mateo, CA  94403  USA
peterh@netcom.com
From: hancock@iex.UUCP (David Hancock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: pserver/lpr conflict?
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:41:14 GMT
Organization: IEX Corporation, Dallas

I have, until recently, been using the printers we have connected to a Unix
machine to do printing from our V3.11 network (using the Novell lpr print
gateway - NFS version 1.2).  Now I have a HP printer local to the network,
and I would like to connect it to my server.

When I set this up (as printer 0) and start pserver, I get a message that the
port is already in use.

The pserver is started before the network printer stuff (before all network
stuff except binding the Enet cards, in fact), and the network printers are
configured as numbers 1 and 2.  

I can attach this printer to a workstation, and use rprinter, if it is
configured as printer number 3.

Am I doing something obviously wrong, or does this just not work, or what?
-- 
David Hancock -*- IEX Corporation	       | Email: [uunet!]iex!hancock
		  1400 Preston Road, Suite 350 | Voice: (214) 612-2600
		  Plano, Texas 75093
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kellmeye@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (kellmeyer steven l)
Subject: HPL3SI *SLOW* Printing - more info
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:35:25 GMT


What is the latest version of PSERVER.NLM and where can I get it?

It's either PSERVER.NLM causing this incredible slow-down (20+ minutes) 
or some weirdness in the Gateway 486DX2 50 file server we have it
connected to.

If I move another machine over and run RPRINTER, it prints like 
the wind.  Changing IRQ's on the printer definition doesn't help the
server's print speed, even though only one station is attached.

Thanks to everyone who responded - I inadvertantly left out information
which forced most of you to assume that I was running this puppy off
an RPRINTER'd PC.  Would that I could....

 
-- 

Steve Kellmeyer 
kellmeye@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
From: Wayne.Wilson@med.umich.edu (Wayne.Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Hack.exe
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Date: 23 Nov 1992 16:10:51 GMT
Organization: Univesity of Michigan Medical Center
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wilson.itn.med.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov21.110530.22022@novell.com>, donp@novell.com (don
provan) wrote:

> 
> I don't know if any PC manufactures have done this, but it wouldn't be
> too hard to prevent this type of attack.  Most PCs nowadays have a
> CMOS configuration switch to force booting off the hard disk.  Just
> require a password to change CMOS, and then without the password the
> server should be unstoppable, shouldn't it?
> 
  I am working with a new Compaq Prosignia right now and it does exactly
what Don suggests, passwords can be set up for changing the CMOS config,
the machine can be locked to the hard disk (or you can use the floppy but
not for booting).  The only way to change any of this without the passwords
is to take the machine apart and reset DIP switches, and the case can be
padlocked shut, so that opening it up would take a bit of work.

Wayne D. Wilson
Asst. Dir. 
Health Sciences Information & Networking
University of Michigan Medical Center
Wayne.Wilson@med.umich.edu
From: low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (Richard Low)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Hack.exe
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:57:16 GMT

In article <jdsmith.50.722206331@novell.com> jdsmith@novell.com (Doug Smith)  
writes:
| In article <7168@news.duke.edu> low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu (Richard Low)  
writes:
| >The basic premise behind server security is physically securing the box.   
| >Getting into a server by loading an NLM is pretty simple, you just have to  
| >keep prying hands off your server.  I mean, anybody can cause damage by  
| >just pulling the plug!
| >
|
| Also, you can secure the console (via a password).  This restricts NLMs
| from being loaded from anywhere except SYS:SYSTEM.  If your users don't
| have access to this subdirectory, such an NLM can't be used.
| 
| Doug Smith
| Novell
| jdsmith@novell.com

Ah, but as Eric J. Schwertfeger pointed out in his follow up posting,  
physicall access to a server is the determining factor.  Even if the console  
is secured, I can kill the power (and probably some files) to bring the  
server down.  Then all I need is a boot floppy with SERVER.EXE and my set  
password NLM on it and I can do my thing.

The bottom line is, if you want to secure your server, secure the box! IMHO
 
--
Richard Low
Duke University Medical Center
low00001@bullnext.mc.duke.edu
NeXT Mail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: jo@rrz.de (Jochen Magnus)
Subject: MAP ROOT: Available in the DOS-API?
Keywords: MAP, DOS-API
Organization: Rhein-Rechenzentrum GmbH, Koblenz, Germany
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 12:21:32 GMT

How can I implement the MAP ROOT-Command using the DOS-API?
For to assign a drive-letter to a NetWare-Volume and -Path it is possible to  
use the MAP-command. F.e. MAP F:=VOL1:DIR1 mapps F: to the Path DIR1 located on  
the volume VOL1. 
But the DOS-Command DIR F:\*.* then shows the contents of VOL1's ROOT, not the  
one of DIR1 (this does DIR F:*.*). To avoid this, one can use the MAP-command  
with the command-line-parameter ROOT (f.e.: MAP Root F:=VOL1:DIR1.

But I'm helpless to use the root-option within the DOS-API. I know how to map a  
drive with ALLOC_PERMANENT_DIRECTORY_HANDLE. But I can't implement a map of a  
Volume/Path-combination to a root. Any hints?

Thanks in advance.JO. 

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Rhein-Rechenzentrum GmbH    Voice:  +49 261 892 520
August-Horch-Strasse 28     Fax:    +49 261 892 525
D-5400 Koblenz, Germany     < DELENDA EST C... >
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Tony McDonald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NW4Mac 3.01 & sys7 colour icons
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:07:25 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.novell
Organization: Newcastle Uni. Computing Services

Hi,
As many of you are no doubt aware, if there is a problem with the desktop
files, it is not possible to recreate them using system 7 due to sys7 not
recreating the desktop files on appleshare servers.

The straight fix is to rebuild the files after booting from a system 6.0.7
floppy. Fine, this works and you get icons back.

But, you don't get the nice 3d colour icons that sys7 has for some
applications - only the B&W ones.

I know that this is fairly trivial, but does someone have an idea of how to
get those icons back? The only solution that I can see is to reload the
software from floppies again :(

This would be acceptable if I only had to do it once, but I've been hearing
that the desktop files get corrupted rather often....

Any and all suggestions gratefully received.
Tone.
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Computing Officer - Apple Mac Support      namm2@ncl.uk.ac
Newcastle University, NE1 7RU, UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: lane@ug.cs.dal.ca (David Lane)
Subject: Connecting to the file server help.
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:19:10 GMT




Hello Netware People,

I'm new to Novell Networks and have a problem.  We recently had a few
people not able to connect to our 1 server.  The message "No response
from my server" comes up.  I went into rconsole and saw  the message
"out of server connections" appear several times which I think 
correspond to the number of times I tried to log in on the server
on these machines.  We have 20 user license.  However I do a userlist
and the number of connections used is 15.  But there are gaps in the
sequence of connection numbers displayed by userlist such that the
connection numbers go up to 19.  Is there something possibly using
connections which aren't displayed by userlist?

Any help much appreciated.
David
lane@ug.cs.dal.ca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: rjsmith@iron.hq.aflc.af.mil (Randy Smith)
Subject: Wanted:  MHS Reference Book w/SMTP
Organization: U.S. Air Force Security Assistance Center (AFSAC)
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:52:50 GMT


I am looking for a reference book that details Novell's MHS protocol and its
operations.  I am especially interested in MHS <--> SMTP conversion on the
Sun Sparc, with Sun acting as the primary MHS post office.

--Randy--

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C.E.T.A. Corp                            rjsmith@iron.hq.aflc.af.mil

"Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments
for going on believing as we already do."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: SPITZBARTH@ucs.uwplatt.EDU (Edward Spitzbarth, Manager of Desktop Computing)
Subject: Installation of Remote Boot Clients
Organization: Bull World Wide Information Systems Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:40:00 GMT

 
We are in the process of setting up some remote
boot systems to a Novell server and are amazed at
the poor documentation available on the subject.  Does
anyone out there know of a source of instructions on
what specifically needs to be done to do this
(including setting up ETHERRPL).
 
Or, if anyone has done this, any tips in setting up
486's with EtherExpress cards over ethernet (sharing
the wire with DECnet) to a Novell Server.  One area
we are having is setting up ETHERRPL to work with
ETHERNET_802.3.
 
Thanks for any info,
 
Ed Spitzbarth
Manager of Desktop Computing
University of Wisconsin at Platteville
 
Bitnet:         spitzbarth@uwplatt
Internet:       spitzbarth@uwplatt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dweissman@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (WiseGuy)
Subject: SMC vs. Asante 10BaseT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:15:00 GMT

We have been using simple SMC 10BaseT concentrators to link Novell client
workgroups to a thick ethernet backbone.  The simple/cheap 8-port
SMC concentrators seem to work fine.  We recently purchased an Asante 10T
12 port concentrator to swap with an existing SMC and found that the clients
couldn't reach the Novell 3.11 server!  I checked to make sure that SQE
was turned off on the thicknet transceiver (it was off) and took a look at
the Asante concentrator.  Every transmit from the client also caused the
collision indicator to comeone.  Since the SMC had no other lights other
than LINK, I couldn't tell what was going on.  FYI:  The ethernet cards were
SMC3016TP.

If standards are followed, shouldn't the Asante concentrator work if the
SMC one works?  
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Allied-Signal Aerospace - BFEC    Internet#1 - dweissman@dftnic.gsfc.nasa.gov
One Bendix Road, Dept. 976        Internet#2 - sysdhw@bfec2.gsfc.nasa.gov
Columbia, Maryland 21045-1897     Telenet/SPRINTnet's X.400 -
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: Epson Localtalk Driver
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:33:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.172400.18861@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu> karthik@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Karthik Sridharan) writes:
>Hello all, am looking for a bizarre item. I am looking for an
>Epson 9 pin driver (APD) for localtalk and this is what I am trying
>to attempt:
>
>We have a NW 3.11 server with NW4MAC, and 56 PC's and 11 Mac's on
>it. We have two Epson DFX-8000 high speed printers on the network
>that we can link to the PC's under DOS and Windows, but we would
>like to offer and publish these printers under systems 6.0.8 and
>7.x on the mac as well. If I am right ATPS should be able to publish
>the queue to the printers, but I would like to find the APD's for
>for the Mac's system folder. I have a Epson/Panasonic 9 pin APD but
>this is only connectable to the local serial ports, I think I need
>an Appletalk driver. 
>
>Thanks in Advance for any help.
>
>karthik
>
Hi,

I do not understand what the APD is that you are mentioning.  I suspect that it
is not relevant to this problem and will treat it as such.  If this is not the
case, let me know and I will do some more research for you.

ATPS.NLM v3.1 (shipped with NW3MAC 3.01) can publish queues (that are serviced
by non-AppleTalk printers) to the Macintosh clients.  You would use the -WB
flag on the ATPS.CFG command line.  In doing so, you would publish a queue that
ATPS.NLM "thinks" is not attached to a printer (-WB means WITHOUT BACKEND--or
no AppleTalk print server).  Under these conditions, ATPS.NLM "assumes" that 
the user will attach this queue to a printer with the user's print server of
choice.  

Apparently you already have the print queue/server already set up as your DOS
clients can print to these printers.  Just make sure you can print PostScript to
the printers (this is important because the Macintosh can only print PS.---I 
know, you have already done this but the point is worth stating...).  Once you
have done this, just add the following line to ATPS.CFG

-o "Queue Name" -WB -L -F FONTFILE

Please consult your manual for full descriptions of the above parameters.  I 
will not elaborate on them here.  If you need to upgrade ATPS.NLM, please 
upgrade your entire NW4MAC package to v3.011 (ATPS.NLM v3.11).  You will find
many other features have been added to this latest product.

There is no need to get a LocalTalk interface for the printer if you do not 
already have one...

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell