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From: ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark)
Subject: Re: Who Gets Stomped (was WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss)
Organization: UNIX System Laboratories, Summit, NJ
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:49:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.220321.16904@wam.umd.edu> lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:
>
>Gimme what?  Tell me, Jess, what am I asking for?

I don't know.  What do you want from us?  None of us have a magic
want to make this society utopia.

>Yes, I'm young and alive now.  Can't you see, that makes it even more  
>depressing and more frustrating!  You know what I want?  I want to be treated  
>equally in this country where I was born!  

And I can't imagine this happening in our lifetime, or several more
beyond it.  As a white gay male, I won't be treated equally in my
lifetime.  Things will improve, but I can't see the bigotry going away,
so I have to learn to live with the reality, while working to make 
tomorrow better.  Is it fair?  Not on your life!  Is there anything
I can do to change the reality of this truth?  No.  I can work day
by day to slowly make things better, but I will never live in the
bigotry free society that I would wish too.  On the other hand, things
do get better, and I console myself with the notion that in future
generations of queers won't have a clue what it was like to live now,
as many of us have no clue what it was like to be queer 30 years ago.

Perhaps I'm wrong, but I see you raging against reality, and reality
will always win.  Coming to terms with it does not mean giving up.


Ry
ry@usl.com
From: richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Vacationing in Europe
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:58:38 GMT
Organization: Xiola Blue

CJR10@CCCVM.CCC.AMDAHL.COM (Chris Russell) writes:

>Does anyone have any recommendations on vacation spots in Europe?

Am I the only one who finds this posting wildly insane?  With respect
to "gay places", "gay hotels", "gay restaurants":

1. Pick a place to go visit.
2. Stay at a hotel.  While you are there, it is a "gay hotel".
3. Choose a restaurant.  While you are there, it is a "gay restaurant".

Now go off and enjoy yourself.
-- 
a flying squirrel is: richard@apple.com  Apple Computer Inc.

i'm your girl            friend
i'm your squirrel        friend
i'm your round the world friend

"In America, we can't even get corruption right."  - my flight instructor.
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:42:13 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct08.152026.27922@microsoft.com>, frankm@microsoft.com
(Frank R.A.J. Maloney) wrote:

> He didn't go to the
> movies, he doesn't read, he isn't interested in politics or
> cultural affairs, he doesn't have any interest on computers
> or software. He likes Madonna, INXS videos, and the
> hair on my chest. Well, it was starting point.

Sounds *perfect*!  Though Seattle is an awfully long way away...

Melmothra, ACC
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Dietrich, Madonna, etc.
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:59:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Oct10.225946.7504
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Oct10.045825.26976@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>Good heavens, Nelson.  "Amadeus" has nothing to do with
>anything, in fact embarrassingly little to do with Mozart.

I know this. And I know this:

>Poor van Gogh.  One would think the fellow never painted anything,
>the way people carry on about that ear or the fact that he was crazy.
>God almighty, look at the *works*!

which is exactly why I chose the examples, to indicate my basic
disrespect for the notion of being an "icon". If all that were
important about Mozart was the movie Amadeus, and al that were
important about van Gogh was his damned ear, then they would be
trivial men, indeed.

>He's an icon by virtue (NB the word) of 626 miracles cataloged by a
>certain Koechel.  When he was your age, his life was well past its
>midpoint.

again, we're using a different definition of "icon". Arguing about
which definition is more meaningful is boring, so I suspect I will
have little else to say in this thread.

>By this definition there could be no icons before our own times,
>which is absurd on its face. We're full circle now, back to the point
>of thinking the world *is* what you know of it.

I think you are simply misunderstanding what I am saying.

"icon" is a descriptive that only has meaning in the context of the
era. There were icons before our own times, but they are not icons
now. Marie of Roumania. 

my use of the term "media phenomenon" was inexact, because that is an
anachronism - "media" as I am using it has only existed for one
hundred years or so. Actually, I'm not so sure that this *is* a
problem - the nature of being an "icon" before the modern media had to
be different than it is now.

ObMotss - speaking of icons, I've finally started reading Naked Civil
Servant (Quentin Crisp), and I am not finding it very compelling. I'm
not sure why - it's the sort of book that I usually like.
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/     What in this room is alive and what doesn't have life?
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:19:59 GMT

stephena@netcom.com (Stephen Arrants) writes:

>In article <BvrJyz.MBM@scd.hp.com> mdrayton@sr.hp.com (Mike Drayton) writes:
>>Jess Anderson (anderson@macc.wisc.edu) wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have a decent regard for Madonna, who's nobody's dummy,
>>> but a person of the cultural stature of Dietrich she's not
>>> very likely ever to be, nor even of the stature of Janis
>>> Joplin, to pick someone in the music field.
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>Who's Janis Joplin?

>Marlene Dietrich's illegitimate daughter by Mary Pickford, of course. Meryl 
>Streep is her third cousin, by the way.

...And she *babysat* Madonna! It's all beginning to make sense now...

--
John Dorrance * Alleged Homosexual/Shameless Hussy * thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
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From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: Ah, Smell the Fashion.
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<1992Oct7.155636.28411@spdcc.com> <clarins@kaa.gr.osf.org>
	<67399@cup.portal.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:27:37 GMT

On Thu,  8 Oct 92 20:33:44 PDT, Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) said:

GDM> Eamonn McManus writes:
>dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>>seats away--it smelled like the ground floor of a department store  
>>(ladies' perfume).
>
>I think this must be a Cultural Universal.  Both Nouvelles Galeries
>here in Grenoble and Samaritaine in Paris have Ladies' Perfume (and
>not much else) on the ground floor.  Is there an as yet unexplained
>reason for this? 

GDM> Probably to keep people like me *OUT*.  ;-{)##]

GDM> The Glendale Galleria's JC Penney and Mervyn's both follow this
GDM> rule; I either have to hold my breath, or enter on the second
GDM> floor. I've never set foot in the Nordstrom's, or the other 
GDM> department store in the complex, so I can't speak for them.

It's also true in department stores in Australia, Japan, Singapore,
Germany, and Venezuela, as well as the rest of the department stores
in the Glendale Galleria.  

In fact, virtually all department stores in the Western World seem to
be laid out in the same way; I have managed to astound my husband by
being able to walk right to what I want in almost every department
store we've ever been in, without asking directions.

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Culture (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:34:42 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <2ad99277@ThreeL.co.uk> jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher) writes:
>Addressing all those who happen to be older than you, you
>remarked: "We shall bury you".  Given what else was going on
>in the group at the time, I considered that an unbelievably
>insensitive and unpleasant remark, and said so.  I'm not
>likely to forget the effect it had on me. 

Without discounting your own reaction, which I can certainly
appreciate, I must say that I was reminded of Khrushchev's
cold war comment more than anything else, and it should prove to be
about as prophetic.  (Matthew sez: "Khrushchev?  Who's he?")

Another gratifying rumination is that the transition from 26-year-old
in full, vigorous youthful flower to a 31-year-old has-been (in the
eyes of those few new equally vapid 26 year-olds who will stand in
Matthew's stead) is one of the most rapid 5-year periods of anyone's life.
-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: Paul Jabara
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:11:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.214511.15107@reed.edu>, nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
> He had another show that was more "hardcore", and he called himself
> "Chuck Roast" when he did that show. And he ran a good record store
> there, too, maybe "Vinyl Edge". Same Chuck?

  Gad, I've completely lost touch with him. He had an English accent
though if that helps...
-- 

		Michael Thomas	(mike@gordian.com)
	"I don't think Bambi Eyes will get you that flame thrower..."  
		-- Hobbes to Calvin
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From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Anagram program
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:04:14 GMT
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA  95131

In article <1469@dosbears> drp@dosbears.uucp writes:
>PC Magazine, Oct. 27, page 49. List price...$895. Requires
>4mb RAM [like someone who'd be likely to want it would be
>running Windows with less than 4mb? :-) ], Microsoft Windows
>3.0 or later, CD-ROM drive. Oxford University Press, Electronic
>Publishing, 200 Madison Ave. New York, NY 10016; 800-334-4249,
>212-679-7300.
>
>The article mentions that the search software actually takes up
>more room on the cd than the dictionary! Searches can be limited
>to the etymological, phonetic, definition, or quotation sections
>of an entry. Chronological variables can be used to find words
>that appeared within a certain span of years. And so on. The
>article is what PC Mag calls a "first look", not an actual
>review, and it doesn't mention other platforms.

A Mac version is supposed to be released at the beginning of the year.

Chuck
-- 
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From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: PASSING by Langston Hughes
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:11:46 GMT
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

In <Bw30r9.H5D@scd.hp.com> mdrayton@sr.hp.com (Mike Drayton) writes:

>Tim Pierce (twpierce@unix.amherst.edu) wrote:
>> 
>> 			       PASSING
>> 			   Langston Hughes
>> 
>------------
>There's a movie from the '30's that deals with this theme -- I can't
>remember the name of it.  It has to do with a mother-daughter
>relationship in which the daughter decides to pass.  Anyone out there 
>know what I'm talking about?  Arne would know, but he's taking a break, 
>more's the pity.

>Mike Drayton      mdrayton@sr.hp.com       Hewlett-Packard Co.
>                                           Santa Rosa, California

From the 30's, with Claudette Colbert.

From the 50's, with Lana Turner.

The title is _Imitation of Life_.

A 10-hankie tearjerker if ever there was one.


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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: Lesbian/Gay Square Dancing (great idea!!) :)
Date: 11 Oct 92 00:32:57 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

For all I know they may still be dosey-doing, although our squares
haven't crossed for several years. In Seattle there was gay square
dance group (mostly men) called A Fistful of Crinoline.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
Newsgroups: soc.motss,soc.bi
From: leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy)
Subject: Re: GBL* films
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:01:02 GMT

yal@lingua.cltr.uq.OZ.AU (Yvette Lian) writes:

>Folks, I am trying to organise a film night for my campus queer group, as
>well as a few other unis around town.  I was mailed the GLB* filmlist a
>little while ago (thanks everyone!), but the contacts listed were all
>overseas, mostly in america.  Does anyone know of any Australian film
>suppliers?  (I'll settle for New Zealand or something similar :) )

Try "Dendy" films. They've released longtime companion, and seem to have the
rights for most major art films with an Australian release. No, I don't know
the phone no. They are somehow connected to the Sydney Dendy cinema - you could
ring them (or the Dendys in other states. I think they're all owned by the same
companies.)

--- G M Heinrich  ( leroy@socs.uts.edu.au )
Rumour has it Yabsley first threatened to resign if the pain didn't go away, 
then, realising he was wasting his time, ordered an ambulance.
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 7 Oct 1992 11:35:39 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct7.180608.1742@macc.wisc.edu> 
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.163023.18271@quantime.co.uk>
> roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips) writes:
> >In article <1atdfaINNt8k@mizar.usc.edu>,
> >adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
> >> My birthday is December 9.

(A reminder: only 62 shoppings days to go!)

> And you will be 37, right?

In human years, yes.  

> >Same as E. Schwarzkopf.
>
> I'll bet about five times as many (that is, not many) people
> here will know who Marlene was as will know who E.
> Schwarzkopf is.  

Sad, isn't it?

> And Betty Blackhead will be how old, about
> 75?  Do you know for sure?

I think she'll be a little older -- 77 sounds right --
but I don't have a copy of Kutsch and Riemann's
handy.  (I do have J.B. Steane's _The Grand Tradition_
here, but he's much too gallant to mention her age.)
Conchita Supervia, who's probably known by a tenth
of the people who know who Elisabeth is, would have
been 92 this year.

Arne
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Dietrich, Madonna, etc.
Date: 9 Oct 1992 18:57:30 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct10.011549.18951@macc.wisc.edu> 
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> In article <1992Oct10.004120.12791@adobe.com>
> asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal) writes:
>
> >I find quite amusing the claim that cultural icons must be
> >timeless.  If this is true, who are the cultural icons from the 1800's?
>
> Oh nobody much.  Just Beethoven, Pushkin, Liszt, Dostoevsky,
> and a smattering of painters.  Inconsequential stuff like
> that.

More cultural icons from the 1800s:

  Dickens          Wild Bill Hickock   P.T. Barnum
  Billy the Kid    Emily Dickenson     The Elephant Man
  Whitman          John Keats          Wagner
  Lincoln          The Shelleys        Oscar Wilde
  Queen Victoria   Lord Byron          Lewis Carroll
  Mark Twain       Jack the Ripper     Tchaikovsky
  Tom Thumb        Jesse James         The Booths

Oh yes, there are some painters, too.

Arne
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss
Date: 17 Oct 92 03:03:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <thaaang.719273723@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) 
writes:
>
>Please. Most of the biggest raging bigots haven't even met a queer.
>I'm surrounded by straights a good share of the time, so I know their
>guidelines and their opinions, as I am expected to stay within them
>and share them most of the time. The two kinds of hate are different;
>their hate is a hate that would suppress, whereas mine is one that
>would gain freedom. Theirs is destructive, mine is constructive.

I'm sure they feel the same way; at least, some of the fundamentalists do:
"Let us save them from their destructive sins and bring them to the Truth
of The Lord", etc.


-- 

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From: mdrayton@sr.hp.com (Mike Drayton)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: My Bad Mouth
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:18:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.1 PL5

Steve Dyer (dyer@spdcc.com) wrote:
>  mdrayton@sr.hp.com (Mike Drayton) writes:
> >Steve Dyer (dyer@spdcc.com) wrote:
> >> If Melman becomes a beloved member of the family, it won't be because
> >> _we_ changed, that's for sure.
> >> 
> >So you deny the dialectic?
> 
> No, not in general, but in this particular instance, perhaps.
> I think it comes down to trust and being perceived as a person
> of good will.  The couple of people today who reported being flamed
> (justifiably in their view in hindsight) weren't being deliberately
> obnoxious, and they listened to the comments people had to make
> and took them seriously (which, by the way, is not the same as
> agreeing to everything which is said.)

Indeed, listening and taking the responses seriously, though it was
hard to admit where I had erred, was how I reacted after I started
last year's "Great Monogamy Flamewar".
 
> Listen, Clayton Cramer will not become a beloved member of the
> family, no matter how many times he barges in.  

Truer words were never spoken.  And I see that there's no conflict
between that assertion and my proposition that these people _do_
have an effect on us, certainly collectively, and possibly
individually, as well.

Mike Drayton      mdrayton@sr.hp.com       Hewlett-Packard Co.
                                           Santa Rosa, California
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 23:00:52 GMT


In article <1992Oct9.220045.18690@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:

>(wondering if the Hudson between us is enough)

You got the car fixed?

-- 
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From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Subject: Re: Culture (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:27:42 GMT

mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
>and I can dish, too.

Dish? Toi? Cherie, what have I missed?

Real dish is like which boy on 'Baywatch' (gawd that show is dreadfull)
can make the horse cry, and who he rents to display it to. I haven't
seen anything juicy from you.

>I'm sure you are correct.  I am also sure that I shall make many, many
>such errors well into the future.

Are you proud of them?
						FJ!!
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Tired and Impatient (was Re: Dietrich, Madonna, etc.)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 19:19:59 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct14.183409.22436@tc.cornell.edu> <ldoun7INNr11@spim.mti.sgi.com>
  <1992Oct15.012809.7194@spdcc.com> <ldr7f1INNguq@spim.mti.sgi.com>

FWA writes:
>Now, here's a question for you... If you were given the opportunity to
>have a one on one lunch with Jesse Helms, would you take the invitation?

Only if I were wired with enough explosives to make sure he'd be
nothing but assorted red splotches on the walls.
 
() Take away the right to say "fuck" and you take away the
() right to say "fuck the government."
()      -- Lenny Bruce
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From: michael@resonex.com (Michael Bryan)
Subject: Re: Quayle Campaign Stroll Disrupted in SF
Organization: Resonex Inc., Sunnyvale CA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:58:25 GMT

In article <trussell.718424045@cwis> trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell) writes:
>nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>>
>>Can someone explain to me how the campaign staff of the vice president
>>of America can actually *lie* like this, and get away with it?
>
>    Easy - he's a Republican, and Republicans will do anything, including
>lying, to keep their jobs and stay in power...

I think the thing that has astounded me most about this election is
the blatant lying by the Republicans.  They even have the gall to brag
about it!  In an article I read a few weeks ago, one of the campaign
high-ups said something to the effect of "Yeah, we weren't telling the
truth when we said Clinton raised taxes in Arkansas 128 times.  But
the tactic works!"

What thoroughly pisses me off is that the media chooses to focus on
the candidates' sex lives, and attempts to avoid the draft, rather than
farm more serious issues like campaigns which purposefully spread lies
in an attempt to influence the voting public.  Is it any wonder the
Far-Right Fundamentalists and the Republican Party get along so well?
They seem to share the same method of operation...

I'm finding this election campaign to be one of the most frustrating
and horrifying events of my life.  Maybe I didn't pay close enough
attention to the politics in the last two elections (the ones I could
vote in), but I get the feeling this is an exceptionally bad election
season.

-- 
Michael Bryan  michael@resonex.com  "Milk and Cheese in '92!"  |     ,_,
"Lovers are like... dentures.  You don't want them in your     |    /oo \
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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Traditional Family Values
Summary: Don't mischaracterize Sha'atnetz!
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:26:14 GMT
Organization: International Irony League -- Death before smileys!

In article <1992Oct9.233826.8905@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>The Leviticus amendment is more thorough - it aims to place a huge
>chunk of the book of Leviticus (possibly the whole thing?) directly
>into the Oregon constitution. If we're going to outlaw homosexuality,
>we want to make sure we get hair cutting, oyster eating, and those
>tacky cotton/poly blends. 

I can no longer remain silent. I must rebut this vicious
mischaracterization of Sefer Vayikra (a.k.a. Leviticus).

Leviticus does not prohibit cotton/polyester blends. It forbids
wearing blends of wool and linen. As a matter of fact, Leviticus
never mentions polyester.

Cotton/polyester blends are forbidden by taste and sense, but not
by Leviticus.

(Neither does Leviticus forbid haircuts; it only forbids shaving
one's head.)
-- 
Andrew M. Solovay       "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
solovay@netcom.com			--Wilde

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