From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles/Cards game
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:29:25 GMT
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Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Oct27.160544.3899@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
> In article <94772@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>> Okay, so everyone is making a big deal of the goal line stand that the Eagles
>> defense held against the Cardinals to deny them a touchdown. Contrary to 
>> popular belief, this really isn't a reflection on the Eagles defense but on
>> the poor coaching of Joe Bugel. During every one of those downs, Clyde
>> Simmons said that he'd look over to Byron Evans and call the EXACT play that
>> the Cards were going to run (all 2 of them)!! He says he recalled seeing the
>> same plays on tapes of earlier Cards games. Now what's the deal with Bugel, he
>> calls time out after a play, you'd think he'd try something different??
>> I feel for you Cards fans (being a GIANTS fan, myself).
> 
> You're out of your mind.  Give a team six cracks (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6!) from
> the 1-yard line, and I don't care what play they run, they are going to
> score 99.99% of the time.  Screw all this blame-Joe-Bugel-for-his-play-
> selection crap!  If Bugel called a sweep or a rollout pass and the Cards
> lost three or four yards you guys would be complaining again.  The fact of
> the matter is that the Cards needed less than 1-yard for a score and the
> GANG GREEN stopped them cold SIX times.  And if Clyde and Byron knew what
> play the Cards were going to run then all that time studying game film of
> the Cards offensive formations was time well spent.  And something tells
> me that if the Giants senior-citizen defense accomplished such a feat you
> would be ranting and raving about it for weeks.

	It's a combo of the two.  Actually my favorite goal line play, is the
play action of a run up the middle, and then have the QB roll out to the wide
side of the field, and drag a TE across the back of the end zone.  If the D
covers the TE, the QB runs it in, otherwise he throws it.  I see this play
succeed so often, I wonder why they don't do it more.  Bugel is partly to
blame, his running up the middle 7 times was stupid, even if two were QB
sneaks.  His excuse was even worse "They'll laugh at  me" is no reason not to
try something different.  On the other hand, 7 runs up the gut should score, as
was mentioned, but Bugel's lack of originality shoulders equal blame.
 
>> In other news, I feel that the reason why Randall looked so out of synch 
>> yesterday was because of poor coaching.  Face it, the Eagles may be a good
>> team but Kotite sucks! When you call the same offensive play week after week,
>> the defense is going to catch on quick.
> 
> Where was all this Kotite-bashing when the Eagles were 4-0?  I agree that
> the play-calling wasn't the greatest against the Cards, but neither was
> the execution by the offense.  After reviewing game films, Randall has
> admitted that there were receivers open.  But he either missed them or
> he held onto the ball too long looking for the perfect play.  The coach
> can call the best play in the world, but if the offense can't execute it
> looks like a terrible call.  Besides, the last thing a Giants fan should
> be doing is complaining about another team's coach.
> 
>> KOTITE'S GREATEST HITS:
>> 1- We're going to take it one game at a time.
>> 2- The next team we play will be our most difficult.
>> 3- This is a team sport and we're team players.
>> where does this guy get this stuff???
> 
> Name another NFL coach that hasn't stated the above three phrases.  It's
> all cliche, but true.
> 
> 
> E-A-G-L-E-S
> 
> Joe Dakes
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> 

	The Kotite bashing is unjustified.  Rich Kotite is a very good coach
IMO, FAR better than Buddy Ryan was at Buddy's best.  The problem with
Cunningham is due to several things:
	1:The dissappearance of the running game
	2:The return of Randall's feeling that he has to do it all.
	3:Lack of confidence
	4:Jackson's departure, and it's effect on the WRs.

	No one of these is the problem, but together they add up to cunnigham
looking for the long ball to often, and trying to run to much, like he used to
do.  I think McMahon's replacing him was the right thing to do.  Cunningham
needed a wake up call, and this was the best thing Kotite had to accomplish
that.  The move will either destroy Randall, or make him stronger.  He's hoping
he gets stronger.
	-Skins fan that think Ryp sux.  We'll take Randall if the Eagles don't
		want him :)