HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Debate Results, my opinion.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 16:06:58 PDT
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<JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> This morning on CNN they were talking about the "floundering" State Department
> and the fact that Jim Baker has let the press know how unhappy he was about
> being pulled-out of the State Department for the election.  Their comment
> was that Baker is beginning to distance himself from a losing campaign.

> Who knows? - Maybe Baker has decided a change in the Presidency wouldn't
> be such a bad thing.

I expect that there are several people, including Baker and Jack Kemp,
who are already starting to plan their election campaign against
President Clinton in '96. But we don't have to worry about Quayle;
he's running in '94!

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer)
Subject: Re: Danny boy with marijuana?
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 00:45:57 GMT

In article <39169@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
>
>
>Whats this I am hearing.. some dude in jail says that DQ bought 
>marijuana from him in the early 70s. 
>
>He [the jailed guy] also says that there was a press conf. arranged
>for him before the 1988 election where he was going to say that, and
>outside 'pressure' was used to cancel it, and that he was then 
>put in solitary confinement 'for his own good'.
>
>The guy's credibility may be zero, but I would believe him before
>anything Bush and his cohorts say [this coming on the heels of the Atlanta
>bank case 'pressure'].
>

I posted details of this guys some time back. He is serving in a
prison somewhere in Oklahoma. I'll dig up the details again and
repost. PS Strangely, his 'stay' has been extented within the last
few weeks and all his parole requests (one which would have put him
back on the streets) have been postponed. This is almost a case
for Amnesty I. God bless America!

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Subject: page 304
Keywords: Al Gore, Earth in the Balance
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:20:14 GMT

I checked my copy of _Earth in the Balance_.  On page
304 was:






              THIS PAGE INTENTIONALLY LEFT BLANK






Oh, wait, that's my C++ manual.  Sorry.

Let's try again:

304                    Earth in the Balance


behooves us to come to terms with this crisis.

     Therefore, as presented in chart 17C, we have several choices
in dealing with the problem of global warming.  The easiest choice
would be to convert most automobiles to electricity or methane,
while offenring incentives to people who replace their air-conditioners
and refrigerators with newer models than do not affect the ozone layer
with chlorofluorocarbons.
     If we spend $100 billion on foreign environmental aid instead
of acting on these projects, the situation can only get worse.  I
fear that this is where we are headed.  The chart on the following
page shows the danger of unchecked industrial pollution to the world
climate, based on United States output only.
     I repeat, we cannot spend $100 billion on foreign aid and think
that this will solve the problem.  What is called for is a Global
Marshall Plan, similar to the European clean-up of 1945 through 1948.
What cost $2 billion then would run $50 billion in today's dollars.
Even so, the problems of acid rain in Canada are attributable to 
pollution in our own country.  We must convert our coal-fired plants
to a non-polluting alternative if we wish to have trout in our
streams.
     There will come a day when a nay-sayer will turn to this page
during a debate and say, "Look, it says right here that you're in
favor of spending $100 billion in foreign aid for environmental
projects!" even though this is not what I said.  Read the above two
paragraphs again, and note that I said it would not make a difference.
Then tell me that you can vote for Dan Quayle without feeling like
a damned fool for believing him.
     In chart 17D is an elaboration of the effect of acid rain and

-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Looks pretty clear to me.

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From: popec@unkaphaed.UUCP (William C. Barwell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: more bashing
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 00:13:31 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy

huang@mwilliams.eche.ualberta.ca () writes:

> Can those Quayle bashers find some place else to masturbate?  This
> place is santified for the genuine fan of The Honourable J. Danforth
> Quayle.  Please return to the original intent.  Thanks.  

Huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, huh, HUH, HUH, HUH, HUH, 
HUH,HUH,HUH,HUH!  SPLAT!   
                           Dang I needed That!

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Quayle is more charitable than Gore
From: jhoward@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 12:58:34 GMT
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science

In article <1992Sep29.223717.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>      Here's an interesting little piece I found in the October 5
> National Review (pg. 12, col. 2):
> 
>      In this corner, Al Gore, apostle of charity, compassion, and
>      saving the earth.  His opponent, Dan Quayle -- avatar of
>      Republican greed and selfishness.  Tax returns show that the 
>      two had similar incomes last year.  Guess which one gave more
>      to charity?  Of course.  The Quayles gave $5,670, or 3 per cent
>      of their income, while the Gores gave $1,727 -- less than 
>      1 per cent.  Maybe Mr. Gore was trying to strengthen the case
>      for federal poverty programs.
> 
> It looks like Gore, the media-proclaimed moderate, is really just
> another hypocritical bleeding heart -- since his public rhetoric
> dwarfs his private generosity.
> 
>      C. Perttunen

  Well, both candidates have families to take care of.  Dan Quayle has a young
daughter.  Whereas Al Gore has three young daughters and a young son.  It
appears by your calculation that Al Gore is actually the more giving candidate,
not that tax info is really an accurate measure of ones own level of charity. 
Charity begins at home.

Just in case you missed the math thing,  take the total family income and
divide by the number of family members.  After accounting for family expenses
for survival purposes the Biblical view is to provide a tithe (or 10 percent)
of the remainder for the care of widows (that single parent Murphy Brown thing)
and orphaned children.  But, here in America we have the freedom to choose how
to spend our own money in private.  I suppose that a humanistic viewpoint might
consider the person who donates the most money publicly to be the most
charitable person in the land.  But humanists are empty inside.
       -- J. Howard
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: gerber@orion.astro.uiuc.edu (Richard A. Gerber)
Subject: Re: Vice shrub didn't lose. 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:39:04 GMT

In <1992Oct14.102547@IASTATE.EDU> danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock) writes:

>   I listened to the debate of radio instead of TV.  I am _so_ disappointed
>that we don't have any new quotes.  I think that by one reasonable measure the
>Admiral won: he lied the least.  On the other hand, we cannot elect an 
>former autocrat that ran a seperate civilization of foreign soil.  I guess
>my real feelings about the Admiral are that I want to take a long lunch with him
>and listen to his experiences in Viet Nam, but I wouldn't vote for him.

>   IMHO, the Danster lied the most but get an award for gutsiness.  Trying to
>quote Gore's book from memory, even if he did interpret it into a lie, was
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Let's hear it from anyone who actually thinks Danoe actually read
any of this book. 


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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Dan Quayle, AI
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:11:32 GMT
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Oct8.183528.28522@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> wilson@glitch.cs.jhu.edu (Dwight Wilson) writes:
>
>What chips?  The quote says that he shifts GEARS!
>Obviously Dan Quayle is an implementation of a Difference Engine
>(thanks to Bill Bogstad for this interpretation).

Hmm.  Needs oil.



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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: sieferme@stein.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Subject: Re: Weekly Reader Survey: Bush/Quayle preferred by kids!
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:49:51 GMT

In article <Bvv5CA.Fr0@cs.psu.edu> plu@math.psu.edu (Todd Andrew Simpson) writes:
>This subject reminds me of the Republican family down the street from
>us twenty years ago.  Evidently McGovern had said something or other
>about the need to save energy, and so these people had their children
>telling everyone at school that McGovern planned to shut down
>Disneyland.  (I'm not making this up.)  This probably would have swung
>a Weekly Reader poll in Nixon's favor (not that Nixon should have been
>afraid of McGovern anyway, though I guess he was).
>
>- Todd Andrew Simpson

The first presidential election I can remember (1960), the issue
important to all of us in third grade was school (naturally).
According to our information, Kennedy was going to make us
go to school for three full days per week, whereas Nixon
was going to make us go to school six half days per week.
There was also some difference between the candidates
on the homework thing, but I forget what is was.

Alas, we later realized that neither candidate ever
came clean about the school attendance issue.  Rats!
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: rdetweil@boi.hp.com (Richard Detweiler)
Subject: Re: Deer quote
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:11:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise Printer Division

In article <1biubtINN9t8@agate.berkeley.edu> mazzarel@spam.berkeley.edu (Ariel Mazzarelli) writes:
>Maybe my hearing aid failed me,  but I believe that Gore's statement was that
>the Bush/Quayle administration was "like a deer caught in the headlines."
>
>I thought it was rather poetic.
>
>As long as I'm posting,  did anyone else note how the three candidates stood?
>Gore was,  well,  stiff and straight.  The Admiral would blurt out four or
					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>five words,  then back off the lectern and swagger around a la John Wayne.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>And our man stood on one leg,  with the other lazily curled around from
>behind,  like a schoolgirl waiting for you to ask her out.
>
>Ariel

I know it wasn't meant distastfully or anything but I thought I'd point
out that the Admiral has difficulty standing as a result of the torture
he underwent in Viet Nam.  From what I understand it is painful for him
to remain standing in one position too long.  Why they coundn't have 
provided him with a stool, I don't know.  Then again, maybe he didn't
want one either.
From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Bush debating
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:45:50 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

Maddi commented on Clinton's family values question...I must say that
Clinton's definition of family (if anyone has it word for word, PLEASE
e-mail it to me) clinched my vote for him.

That definition got me thinking....has anyone else interpreted Bush's
comments following that (about how "certainly single parent families
exist" and how those families of *single MOTHERS* can function OK, but
would be better off w/the "deadbeat dads" held accountable for action) as
a slam on Clinton and his upbringing?  It took a while to hit me, but gawd
is that vicious.

As usual, Perot was entertaining and I loved hearing him slam Bush, but it
seemed that only Clinton occasionally broke the vacuous sound-bite agenda
to talk about real issues or controversies.  Bush tried once (with the
drug issue) but Clinton's 1-minute rebuttal made Bush look like a
2-dimensional fool.  Sigh.  At least we all have something to watch.

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: "James F. Tims" <p00168@psilink.com>
Subject: What Democratic Congress? (Re: New Quayle Quote )
Organization: Semper Excelsior
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:41:19 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

>In article <D2150056.fuc2o9@erics.infoserv.com>, erics@infoserv.com (Eric S.
>Smith) says:
>>
>>JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>
>>> And don't forget, they also held the senate for six of those 12 years.

>>No, I don't think we can give them that. I believe they only held the
>>Senate for two years (the first two years of Reagan's presidency).
>>
>
>...
>but the
>Reprobates held the Senate until the 1986 election - when those "Reagan
>coattail" Republicans were defeated.

One should add that this election also gave the Dems control of the House
for the first time since '81.  The "Reagan Democrats" had provided the
Republicans with a _de facto_ majority in the House, and the majority
in the Senate was effectively larger than the party totals.

But to move quickly away from any association with the Subject line 8^)

How 'bout that debate, folks?  I figure Danny's trainers finally decided
that the answer to the debate problem was to fill up the time with 
accusations.  It makes no difference whether the accusations are false or
true, just so long as there are far more accusations than can be dealt
with in the allotted time.  Most Americans equate obnoxious, snide and
rude, with strong, smart and confident.  A loud motormouth is not a wimp.
Can you imagine having to suffer through the practice sessions? 8^%
"Point your finger! Louder! Don't stop!  Keep it up!  Now, Now, INTERRUPT!
Don't worry about the facts, Dan.  Don't think.  Keep talkin'. Louder.
Drag it out every chance you get.  No!!!  The minute you try to be serious
you look STUPID, Dan.  Stay pissed off. Let's try it again from the top."


It makes me wonder if Qayle is the sort
of golfer that rattles change in his pocket at the top of your backswing.
Is he really a five?  Does anybody know if he plays for
money?  Does he post his scores?  Does he play the ball down?

__
jim tims

Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jpm8m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason Pittman Mitchell)
Subject: Re: bumperstickers
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:17:30 GMT

sysmatt@aix3090b.uky.edu  writes:
>           I have a friend who has a friend who gave him a T-shirt he
> bought in Chicago that says "Lick Bush in 92". If anyone knows a source
> for bumperstickers with this slogan, please let me know.

I bought the sticker in Key West last March.  It says on the
bottom that you can get one (or many, I guess) by sending $2.95
check or money order for each sticker to:

                                     Tungin Cheeque's Stuff
                                     Box 69, 1282 N. Ocean Dr.
                                     Singer Island Fl. 33404
                                     (407) 863-9331
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From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: page 304
Keywords: Al Gore, Earth in the Balance
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:34:36 GMT
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.

In article <1992Oct15.224143.8448@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> wilson@glitch.cs.jhu.edu (Dwight Wilson) writes:
>So, is this an example of the type of "humor" we can expect to 
>see on rec.humor.funny? :-)

Her words may or may not be inspired, but her selection process is divine.

(I know, because she selected one of mine.)

Although I have to admit, I laughed right out loud when I read that final
paragraph quoted from pg. 304.

-mm-
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:08:06 EDT
From: <JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Quayle's Big Day!

"When you think of what might have happened, we have to
be pretty happy"

          -James Baker about Quayle's 1988 Debate

Hope this helps.

Jeff Luck          *These opinions are mine, but facts are facts*
CES Systems Office
Penn State University    "Whatever you guys want, I'm for."
JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU           -Dan Quayle to Ohio Farmers, 1988
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson)
Subject: Re: more bashing
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 01:19:12 GMT

huang@mwilliams.eche.ualberta.ca () writes:
>
> Can those Quayle bashers find some place else to masturbate?  This
> place is santified for the genuine fan of The Honourable J. Danforth
> Quayle.  Please return to the original intent.  Thanks.  

We're fans of Dan-o, it's just a different kind of fandom.  Sort of
like what you used to see directed at characters by Tim Conway or Jerry
Lewis.  Think that's unfair?

Well, let's take a look at Danny's latest effort, as reported by the AP:

"An author who advocates a submissive, child-rearing role for women and
claims that feminists "have done more harm...than all the wars fought"
received a warm letter from Dan Quayle after he mailed the Vice President
his book.

"Quayle sent a signed letter to Anthony Moccia of Shelton after the (author
sent a copy of his book) "Happily Ever After:  How to Stay Married and be
Happy Too!"  Quayle's letter praised Moccia's recognition of "the need to
renew the values that are our greatest heritage."

But a Quayle spokesman said the vice president hadn't read the book and
didn't share the author's views.

"Moccia wrote that feminists "have done more harm to the Unitied States and
those contrues stupid enough to imitate us than all the wars fought to make
this planet a better place for all."

"He wrote that men and women need to revert to what he described as the
"natural order of things"--the dominant, male provider; the submissive,
child-rearing female.

"Qualye's letter, in part, reads:  "It is encouraging to hear from citizens
like you who recognize the need to renew the values that are our greatest
heritage as Americans."

"Jeff Nesbitt, a spokesman for the vice president, said he was certain that
Quayle hadn't read Moccia's book."

This is what comes of having gotten thru college by reading Cliff Notes and
the fly-leafs of books.  Does anyone doubt that Dan-o got himself into this
by responding to what he hasn't read?


Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: achin@math.tamu.edu (Andrew Chin)
Subject: Weekly Reader Survey
Reply-To: achin@math.tamu.edu
Organization: Dept of Mathematics, Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:36:22 GMT

The "Weekly Reader," a periodical for elementary-school-age readers
(they claim a readership of K-10th grade, but any reader older than
9 has a serious learning disability) has announced its mock poll
results:  56% Bush, 44% Clinton.  They further noted that Bush's
support was especially strong among the younger students (K-4).

The mentality level of Bush-Quayle's appeal has turned out to
be just as I expected.
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From: popec@unkaphaed.UUCP (William C. Barwell)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: A New Quote!
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 02:50:32 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy

dks@MIT.EDU (dks) writes:

> 
> shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan) writes:
> > cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black) writes:
> > > [...] the focus will be more on the economy,
> > > which is one of GHWB's strong points.
> > 
> > If the economy is one of Georgie's strong points,
> > I'd hate to see his weak points.
> 
> He doesn't have any.  So, NOW do you see why you
> just HAVE to vote for him?
> 
> 
> Dhanesh
> 
>   Bush in '92:  A thousand weak points of light!
>  
>  


Bush out in '92.  A thousand piles of shit.

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From: crogerson@tds-hsc.com (Charlie Rogerson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Thoughts on the 2nd debate
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:50:42 PDT
Organization: TDS Healthcare Systems
Reply-To: crogerson@tds-hsc.com (Charlie Rogerson)
Distribution: us
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In article <1bn10lINNm1v@gap.caltech.edu> (alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton), peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes:
> erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith) writes:
> >Strangest moment: when he said that "portable"
> >was a "big word, I know". Just where does he rate the intelligence of
> >the voters?
> 
> Not really strange if you stop to think about it.  For the last 4 years
> he's been dealing with Dan, for whom "portable" *is* a big word!
> 
> 							--  Michal
> 
> 
Guys, give it a rest some time. I work in managed care/healthcare computing
and the concept of portable health plans is *not* well understood in the industry,
let alone among the public. I do this stuff for a living and I have a hard
time understanding portable, cafeteria, point-of-service, triple-option plans,
let alone trying to design apps to administer them and yet, of course I know
what the word "cafeteria" means. I'm working as a volunteer for Clinton, but Bush's healthcare
reform plan is far superior.

-------------------------------------
Charlie Rogerson
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: dong@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Don M. Gibson)
Subject: Re: Debate
Reply-To: dong@oakhill.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:11:58 GMT

In article 22904@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU, rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>
>YOU know, in the presidential debate, I thought Perot was a democratic 
>plant, there to attack Bush while Clinton remained above the fray.
>
>However, Adm Stcokdale is CLEARLY a republican plant, there to prove that
>it is possible to be more incoherent than DQ.
>
>Was anyone else hoping Quayle and Gore would actually get into a fistfight?
>

i was waiting for someone to throw a chair ala Geraldo!