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From: paul.westley@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Westley)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: RSSM RESULTS
Date: 12 Dec 92 23:02:00 GMT
Reply-To: paul.westley@uttsbbs.uucp (Paul Westley)
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591

-> For a fairly new reader of rec.gambling but one who is interested in
-> this topic, where can one learn more about thi RSSM roulette method?

Try the Mickey Mouse Club - could somebody please point these roulette
system players to joke.sub or something.  But one more time anyway -
THERE IS NO WINNING ROULETTE STRATEGY, BET $100, WIN $94.50, that's all
you need to know.
         
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: amir@bksp2101 (Amir Bakhtiar)
Subject: WANTED: R.G or BJ FAQ
Reply-To: amir@is.morgan.com
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company, Inc.
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:36:33 GMT


Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: an2052@anon.penet.fi
Subject: insurance correlation
X-Anonymously-To: rec.gambling
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:32:00 GMT


  If a count has a 100% insurance correlation IC and another has a
75% IC, how many more insurance decisions would be expected to be
correct in one count vs the other?  Or, if two counts were the same
(PE and BC) execpt for IC, one had a 79% IC vs a 74%, how much of
an advantage would this trade off as?


Thanks

                                     
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From: bryn@mindlink.bc.ca (Bryn Dyment)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Splitting Aces
Date: 20 Dec 92 01:26:15 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

I was just wondering if the multi-deck basic strategy 'always split aces'
would apply to our local casino, where only one card after splitting aces is
allowed.
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: rcj2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (ray.c.jender)
Subject: Re: CFD: Creation of Rec.Gambling.Lottery
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:27:18 GMT

In article <1gmcvlINNktq@agate.berkeley.edu> shindle@ocf.berkeley.edu (Richard Michael Shindle) writes:
>I know that to win the lottery is a worse chance than being struck by
>lightning. But, I buy a ticket and sure I probably won't win, but I pay my
>dollar and get a chance and a little hope to win some money and do what I
>always want. (Tell my boss to take this job and shove it up his *** :-)
>
>Mike

	I'm with you Mike. Hey, the lottery is some peoples way of
	dreaming of hitting it big. I'm 42 yrs old. I'm putting my
	time in this Fortune 20 company, waiting to retire. I'll
	never be independently wealthy. (Neither will most of you
	reading this, I'm guessing) So what the heck, a few bucks 
	a week for a possible chance at finacial freedom....

Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: messiah@nevada.edu (mw)
Subject: Re: Nicknames for various points in Craps
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 10:11:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.030359.4114@novell.com> barrey@Novell.com (Barrey Jewall) writes:
>In <1992Dec18.223833.10032@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jsvrc@rc.rit.edu (J A Stephen Viggiano) writes:
>
>>Okay, I know a point of four is known as "Little Joe," and a point of ten
>>is "Big Dick," but how are the others called? I forgot.

>>BTW, while they're not exactly points, I know already that 2 is "Snake Eyes,"
>>3 is "Cock-Eyes," and 12 is "Box Cars."
>>Thank you in advance for your assistance. I need this information for a
>>"research project."
>>==Doctor FORTRAN

>Research project, huh????
>Seven is often known as "red", but that's really not a point either.
>Snake-eyes is also known as "my mother-in-law's eyes". Heard in both
>Reno and Tahoe, and some in Vegas.
>Haven't heard too many others, though...
>+ Barrey Jewall
>+ barrey@novell.com

Well there's the one that's almost too obvious to mention and that's 
"yo" for yo-leven (or eleven), and there's also another one that I've 
heard before for the hard six (i.e. 3,3), and that's "book ends." 

 
         _/     _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/ 
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   _/     _/ _/    _/ _/    _/ _/       _/    _/        |\     /|
 _/     _/ _/    _/ _/    _/ _/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/          | ``''' |
                                                        \(O) (O)/
           messiah@redrock.nevada.edu                 __  \   /  __
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From: swood@unixg.ubc.ca (Stephen Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Casino in Pacific Northwest
Date: 11 Dec 1992 17:13:52 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: pnw
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Keywords: Seattle

In article <1992Dec10.183544.22390@microsoft.com> ajayj@microsoft.com (Ajay Jindal) writes:
>Does anyone have some information on Casino Blackjack in Washington state?
>I've heard that casinos have opened up on the Native reservation near 
>Bellingham.  Any info on what their rules are or general comments about
>this place?
>
You're refering to the casino run by the Lummi Indians.  Take exit 260
from I-5 and follow the signs for about 10 miles.  Current rules are
6D, DOA, S17, LSR with limits of $2-25, $5-50 and $25-100.  The penetration
is about 75%.  They are open 24 hours a day, offer free soft drinks, no
alcohol, have a small restaurant that has improved to reasonable quality.
Generally the dealers are friendly and there is no heat.  Besides BJ
they provide poker and pai-gow for unlimited stakes but at more restricted
times.  Pai-gow is the real high roller game with players making bets up to 
$1000 per hand.  The house merely deals the game and takes 1% commission
with a minimum $1.


Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: carter@spot.Colorado.EDU (Mike Carter)
Subject: Re: Software review: Stanford Wong's Video Poker (info request)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:41:09 GMT

Speaking of video poker, I came back from Vegas last week having done very
well and am now in the process of writing my own simulator.  I'm interested if
anyone can fill in the gaps/make corrections for the following payoff schedule
or pointing me at a decent reference or FAQ would be fine to.  Seemed like on
the `standard' `Jacks or Better' type machines, the payoffs were:

                Bet 1   Bet 2   Bet 3   Bet 4   Bet 5
                Pays    Pays    Pays    Pays    Pays
                ----    ----    ----    ----    ----
JB Pair		1	2	3	4	5
Two Pair	2	4	6	8      10
Three of a Kind	3	6	9      12      15
Straight	4	8      12      16      20
Flush           5      10      15      20      25
Full House      ?       ?       ?       ?       ?
Four of a Kind 25      50      75     100     125
Straight Flush 50     100     150     200     250
Royal Flush     ?       ?       ?       ?    4000

I realize that there are probably lots of good simulators out there already
but being the geek that I am, I'd rather do it myself.  

Thanks in advance.

-- 
				- Mike
				  carter@spot.Colorado.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: ch2m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Christopher  Houston)
Subject: Re: New Orleans Casino
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:41:05 GMT


From: bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton)

> Speaking of which, the Ft. McDowell Indian Reservation, about
> 40 minutes from here, is now advertising "high-stakes poker"
> as part of its casino operations.

Indeed, I went out there a few times when I was in Scottsdale this 
summer and will certainly venture there again while I'm home for
the holidays (perhaps as soon as Friday night!).  I'll give you all
a full-blown trip report when I get back to Virginia in mid-January, 
but for now I can give you three quick tidbits about the poker room 
at the Ft. McDowell casino:

	1.  It's one big room on the end of a huge warehouse structure,
	    garishly lit by flourescent lights.  (The other half of the
	    building is bingo and--once they reach an agreement with
	    the state--video poker.)

	2.  There's no alcohol; just soft drinks, coffee, and tea for
	    free, with sandwiches and other mediocre snacks for sale.

	3.  But by golly, the most important fact of all, it's got lots
	    of poker, with a selection of available games wider than
	    you'll find in most Nevada casinos.  Moreover, they do have
	    some higher stakes games (i.e., $10-$20 and up); better yet,
	    when they SAY they have them, they really DO have them (as
	    opposed to the Vegas casinos that, in the poker directory
	    of those tourist guides, CLAIM to have high stakes games--
	    even up to three-digit limits and no limit--despite the
	    facts that they haven't spread those games in years and that
	    you'd NEVER just be able to walk in off the street and find
	    one in progress).

Anyway, like I say, I'll post a more complete trip report when I get back.
In the meantime, happy holidays...

P.S.  For those of you wondering where the hell the Ft. McDowell Indian
Reservation is, it's just outside Scottsdale, Arizona (which, for those
of you still confused, is a suburb of Phoenix).

Adios,
Christopher Houston
ch2m@poe.acc.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Steven R Jacobs)
Subject: Re: BJ: 6 deck strategies
In-reply-to: nhuang@hfglobe.intel.com's message of Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:29:39 GMT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Date: 16 Dec 92 08:55:10

In article <BzC4HJ.A82@hfglobe.intel.com> nhuang@hfglobe.intel.com (Joe Bennett) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.193812.25910@microsoft.com> ajayj@microsoft.com (Ajay Jindal) writes:
>>Which of following books cover basic strategy and counting strategies for
>>6 deck blackjack games:
>>
>>BlackBelt in BJ
>>World's Greatest BJ book
>>Professional BJ
>>
>>I want to get them because they seem to have reasonable counting strategies
>>in them based on the info in the FAQ.  I already have BJ as a Business and
>>aside from a Basic Strategy chart for 4+ decks, the rest of the book seems
>>to deal with only single deck games.  Does anyone know what changes should
>>be made to the chart for the Revere PM counting strategy if you're using
>>6 decks?
>>
>IMO, it does not matter how many decks there are, as long as you keep track
>of the TRUE COUNT, you are in excellent condition.

The house edge for basic strategy play is significantly higher for multi-deck
games.  In addition, favorable situations occur less often in shoe games.
What this means for card counters is that it is much more difficult to gain
an advantage over multi-deck games.  The more decks, the harder it is to
win.

>True count is computed as follows:
>
> True count= running count / remaining decks.
>
> The trick here is learn to estimate remaining decks.  Buy six decks of cards
> and start practicing. :-)

Correct.

>>Also, does hit soft 17 have any affect on the basic strategy?
>>
> A lot of books tell you to hit on soft 17 ALWAYS.  I found this to be a
> good advice.

I believe he is referring to whether or not the *dealer* must hit soft 17.
This rule favors the house overall.  When correct basic strategy is used,
this rule boosts the house edge when the dealer has an ace showing, and it
reduces house edge when the dealer has a small (2 - 6) card showing.  The 
extra house advantage from ace-up situations more than compensates for the
extra losses from the small-card-up situations.  However, this implies that
strategy variations will occur at slightly different counts in many cases.

>>How likely is it to find single deck games where counting strategies are
>>effective?  Games where they don't shuffle after every hand or continually
>>shuffle cards back into the deck using a machine.

You can generally find good single deck games if you look for them.
Good, consistent penetration is the main thing to look for.  This
is more important than finding the best rules.
--
Steve Jacobs  ({bellcore,hplabs,uunet}!utah-cs!jacobs, jacobs@cs.utah.edu)
"Don't worry, I just have these harmless pocket rockets...."
From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Match, Wheel, Flint Locks
Date: 13 Dec 92 15:46:34 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Does anyone know what the difference between these
types of actions?

Jus' curious...


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| irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu | MEUM SED DEI    | can be yours too for only $50!  |
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From: emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Gun blast noise in a car?
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:34:53 GMT
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <1992Dec14.183537.4636@athena.cs.uga.edu> boone@athena.cs.uga.edu (Roggie Boone) writes:
#
#My question is, if one has to shoot inside a car (either at someone
#in your car, or through a windshield to get someone trying to get 
#into your car), how do you protect your ears (and those of passengers)
#from the blast noise?

Just shoot and worry about your ears later, at least there will be
a later. Note, however, that shooting through the windshield is usually
a dumb idea. If the perp is standing in front of your car, hit him with
the 4,000 pound bullet, it's more effective.

Gary
From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: More on dry firing
Date: 16 Dec 92 03:08:53 GMT
Organization: The Cat Factory

In article <921212063832_76334.1331_EHJ22-2@CompuServe.COM> 76334.1331@CompuServe.COM (Brian Millin) writes:
}
}	
}USPSA rules state that the procedure for "hammer down" is to drop the
}hammer by means of the trigger. There is even a provision for pistols with
}a magazine safety - you put in an empty mag and then do the deed.
}
}There aren't many shooters around with more money in their pistols than
}IPSC shooters, and they are REQUIRED to dry fire at least once each time
}they run a stage.
}
}So there.			

Well, _I'm_ going to use the decocker lever as God and SIG intended, rules
or no rules.

Harumph! (-:

(Seriously, would this be a rules violation?  Sounds pretty silly, if so).

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                Do not meddle in the affairs of
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Santa Monica, CA  90405                        and go well with ketchup.
From: callison@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (James P. Callison)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: A gun in the home....
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:19:25 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Dec15.182328.23468@ke4zv.uucp> emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu (Gary Coffman) writes:
#
#I don't think you are wrong. You'll either upset the child, or recoil
#in horror from the ghoulish little monster who is cackling with glee
#at the destruction of Mr. Watermelon. One reaction is as likely as
#the other in a young child. I don't think you should introduce a youngster
#to firearms until they *really* understand DEAD. Let them wring some
#chicken's necks, pluck them, and eat them before you teach them about
#guns. Or have them help you gut bambi first. If your kids aren't ready
#for that, they aren't ready for guns.

Are you saying that _I_ am not ready for guns, just because I dislike
shooting deer and wringing the necks of chickens? Don't get me wrong;
if I had to hunt to feed my family, I'd be the best damned hunter you 
ever saw, and if someone were threatening me or my loved ones, I'd plug
him faster than you can say jackrabbit. HOWEVER, I intensely dislike
killing things; that's why I don't hunt much. (Quail don't count. It's
positively unAmerican (or un-Oklahoman) to not hunt quail :-)
Just because they're not ready to hunt doesn't mean they're not ready 
to shoot, IMHO. They should understand dead, as best they can, and
they should understand the power involved in shooting, but I don't
think it's necessary to expose them to the gory side of shooting
immediately. I was introduced to shooting at an early age, but it wasn't
until I was older (maybe 11 or 12yrs old) that I was introduced to
quail hunting--except for the time when I was 8 that one of my uncles'
quail miraculously revived and started running around the kitchen
(which didn't make my gandmother too happy :-)...

				James

James P. Callison       Microcomputer Coordinator        OU Law Library 
Callison@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu   /\    Callison@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu
	constellation!biglaw!callison@mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu
DISCLAIMER: I'm not an engineer, but I play one at work...
	Your self esteem is enhanced by remaining an ignoramus?
	Please! Let's call it "informationally impaired."
		--Hobbes and Calvin, "Calvin and Hobbes"
From: barry@uts.amdahl.com (Barry Needham)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: M1911 operation
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:24:13 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


erudnick@pica.army.mil (FSAC-SID) writes:


#A question for owner/operators of M1911 pistols:

#I just acquired a Polish VIS ("Radom") pistol. It has very similar lines
#to the M1911 except it is a little smaller, and the base of the grip
#flares a bit. Improvements over the 1911 include a fized slide bearing
#surface rather than a separate bushing, a Hi-Power style cam lug instead
#of a link on the barrel, no manual safety, a slide mounted decocking 
#lever, and of course the 9mm chambering ( :) :) :) :) :) ).

#Anyway, the decocking lever lets you drop the hammer safely on a loaded
#chamber like most DA autos (but the VIS, being single action, must be
#cocked manually to resume firing). I also noticed that it is not
#possible to drop the hammer by holding it with the thumb and pulling the
#trigger because to hold the hammer with the thumb requires a shift in
#grip, which engages the grip safety preventing the hammer from being
#dropped.

Let me get this right...  A single action 1911 clone, in a minor caliber, that
has a decocker but no manual safety.  Must have been made in Poland :-)
It brings to mind an old joke:

	"Have you heard of Polish roulette?  You play it just like Russian
	roulette, except that you use an automatic."

Why in the world anybody would come up with that combination is beyond me.

#So to satisfy my curiosity more than anything else, how do you drop the
#hammer on a loaded chamber with one hand with an M1911? Or can't it be
#done? I realize that this is not a common requirement, but I'm just
#curious. Thanks in advance.

To answer your question, it is possible but I don't recommend it.  Pull the
hammer back with your thumb, thus engaging the grip safety.  While keeping
your thumb on the hammer pull the trigger and ease the hammer down with your
thumb; preferably while the pistol is pointed at a bullet trap.

Regards,
  Barry.

#Ed Rudnicki     erudnick@pica.army.mil     All disclaimers apply

-- 
Barry Needham          barry@uts.amdahl.com          USA (408) 992-2527
From: ghm@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: FMJ (was Re: What about these Helwans???)
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:19:15 GMT
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia

asbestos@nwu.edu (Michael A. Atkinson) writes:

#steffen@stud.cs.uit.no (Steffen Baeroe) writes:

##Why is it not allowed to use jacketed bullets on your local range?
##I was under the impression that jacketed bullets gave a better 
##protection against lead-poisoning?

#Permit me to speculate that this range does not permit jacketed bullets due
#to the INCREASED chance of lead poisoning.  You see, ricochets vastly
#increase the chance of accidental entrance of lead to the system.  

Steffen's post hasn't arrived here yet (something very strange about
traffic from the US) but the answer is very simple.  Penetration.
Jacketed bullets are (considered by the Committee to be) more likely 
to damage the range fittings and possibly penetrate the baffling
around the range.  Since the area around the range is open to the
public, we're very concerned about the possibility of injury to 
people outside the range.

#For the humor impaired:       :-)

Geoff Miller  (g-miller@adfa.oz.au)
Computer Centre, Australian Defence Force Academy
From: ferry@aps.anl.gov (Richard Ferry)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Wanted:Lead Shot in Bulk Quantities
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:18:56 GMT
Organization: Argonne National Lab -- APS

There is a place in Granite City Illinois (not far from St. Louis Mo.) called Taracorp
Industries. Address: 1200-T 16th st., Granite City, Il. 62040. 
Phone number: (618)451-4400.
I am sure you could get a catalog and price sheet if you called.
From: efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: AMT backup .380
Date: 18 Dec 92 01:56:12 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


In article <9212161801.AA02913@sunsrvr1.cci.com>, sjo@sunsrvr1.cci.com
(Steve Owens) writes:

#	I tried to respond via email, but it appears to have bounced.
#
#	Why not look into the new Firestars?  American Rifleman gave
#a good review of them this month (If I remember correctly, the article 
#said they were reliable and well made.  For a minute, I wondered whether 
#I was reading American Rifleman or not. :-)  and they come in more 
#effective calibers than the .380 (they come in 9mm, .40 S&W, and .45 ACP).
#Looking at them in the local gun shop, the Firestars didn't appear to be 
#much bigger than a Colt Mustang.
#

The main attractive feature of the backup is it's REALLY small size. 
The firestar is BIGGER than the colt officers which is BIGGER than the 
Colt Mustang which is CONSIDERABLKY BIGGER than the Backup. Seriously 
folks, this is a TINY gun (hence the kick). If I wanted something bigger 
I would DEFINITELY go for a Colt Double Eagle Officers model in .45. As a 
matter of fact, I think I'll go for one anyway (money permitting.........)

The ONLY reason to go for a wimpy .380 is its REALLY compact size in the 
Backup. It is even a lot smaller than the PPK, etc. Does anyone know of a 
BETTER choice that is of the SAME approximate size as the AMT BAckup????? 
I would DEFINITELY be interested in knowing..........

Later, Eddie

PS: I will post dimensions of the SA Backup tomorrow (if I remember to 
measure it tonight :-)
From: DENNIS_@ncsu.edu (DGA)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Re: Blackpowder
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:30:27 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <Bz6nF2.LMA@news.cso.uiuc.edu> irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:
#From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
#Subject: Blackpowder
#Date: 13 Dec 92 15:46:35 GMT
#Does anyone have any suggestions of good blackpowder guns
#on the market?  (The more primitive the better!)
#
#Thanks!
#
#-- 
#+-------------------------+-----------------+---------------------------------+
#| Brent L. Irvine         | NE PER INGENIUM | The above personal opinions     |
#| irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu | MEUM SED DEI    | can be yours too for only $50!  |
#+-------------------------+-----------------+---------------------------------+
#

Dixie Gun Works
PO Box 130
Union City, TN 38261

1-800-238-6785

Catalog $4.00

Great place to start.  Catalog is possibly not as entertaining as 
Madonna's book, but the merchandise displayed is better quality and 
generally less used.