From: rem@public.BTR.COM (Robert E. Maas  rem@btr.com)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Sending mail to Compu-Serve
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:10:21 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM
CC: fernwood!jwt!bbs-firefly

bbs-firefly@jwt.UUCP (John Dooley) asked: <<Hi, could someone tell me
the proper way to address mail so that it can be sent to Compu-Serve?>>

It depends on what network you are on, i.e. what addressing mode your
local host accepts for outgoing mail, in your case either Internet
format user@host.domain...domain or UUCP format
node!node!...!host!user, see below for pointer to more info.

<<Also, do any other commercial networks receive feeds from the
Internet? If so, please tell me how to reach those, too.>>

Yes, see the Inter-Network Mail Guide, pointer below.

<<Please e-mail replies.>>

This is a FAQ so I'm posting, but sending CC via e-mail. (John Dooley,
let me know if you really get this via e-mail.)

sdmoore@iastate.edu (Steven D Moore) gives a partial answer:
<<Regarding sending to CIS, to send to account 76207,2033, you would
address the message 76207.2033@compuserve.com.>>

(1) Be aware that "CIS" is now ambiguous. It means CompuServe Info
Systems, or something like that, but it also means Commonwealth of
Independent States (re-organized after collapse of USSR), and also
there's another company identified as "CIS Personnel" on the net
<cisml@world.std.com> which has been posting job ads, something like
"Computer Interactive Systems", sorry I misplaced the name. But in this
context the meaning is clear.

(2) Moore's info is correct from places that support Internet domain
addressing, but from UUCP-only hosts it's a little different, something
like node!node!...!compuserve.com!76207.2033 where the first part gets
you to some node that knows how to reach compuserve.com.

Most of the info about how to address e-mail from one node to another,
often with Internet in the middle, is covered in this document:

Inter-Network Mail Guide (23k) -- How to send electronic mail from one
network to another, by John J. Chew, III <poslfit@UTCS.UToronto.CA>.
For example, if you want to send mail from the Internet to someone
whose CompuServe ID is '7xxxx,yyyy', you address it to
'7xxxx.yyyy@compuserve.com'.
To: LISTSERV@UNMVMA
 GET NETWORK GUIDE
ftp syr.edu (aka ftp.syr.edu) (128.230.1.49) networks/doc/ingmail.txt
ftp HYDRA.UWO.CA (129.100.2.13) LIBSOFT/EMAIL_GUIDE.TXT
ftp FTP.MsState.Edu (130.18.80.11) pub/docs/internetwork-mail-guide
ftp ariel.unm.edu (129.24.8.1) library/network.guide
Also available by monthly subscription (contact author).

The above is an entry in MaasInfo.DocIndex. To obtain the MaasInfo
files, edition from last February (I haven't had time to put out a new
edition since then), see the following announcement that was previously
posted on info.nets and several other places.


This is an update to annoucements of the MaasInfo files I've been
posting to various interest groups since mid-August(1991). Since
September(1991) these files have been sufficiently stable to have them
posted on FTP sites and a fileserver. Please obtain the MaasInfo files
(MaasInfo.TopIndex MaasInfo.DocIndex and some lesser files;
MaasInfo.Files is an annotated list of these files) from these sites if
you can (instructions are given for MaasInfo.TopIndex only, on sites
where the names of the other files are analagous):


North America #1 (problems to bed_gdg@SHSU.edu):
(This site has the new 1992.Feb.27 edition which is the current edition)
To: FILESERV@SHSU.edu  (BitNet: FILESERV@SHSU)
 SENDME MAASINFO  (to send the whole package, which includes all the below:)
 SENDME MAASINFO.TOPINDEX*  (just the three pieces of this one 64k file)
 SENDME MAASINFO.DOCINDEX  (etc. for all the other files, none of them split)
 DIRECTORY MaasInfo  (annotated directory of MaasInfo files in server format)
FTP Niord.SHSU.edu (192.92.115.8) maasinfo/
      MAASINFO_FOR_FTP.TOPINDEX  (64k, all in one piece for FTP only)
      MAASINFO.DOCINDEX  (etc. for all the other files, none of them split)
FTP Niord.SHSU.edu (192.92.115.8) MAASINFO.DESCRIPTION (annotated directory)

North America #2 (problems to BILLY@UNTVAX or billy@unt.edu):
(This site has the new 1992.Feb.27 edition which is the current edition)
ftp ftp.unt.edu (129.120.1.1) articles/maas/maasinfo.topindex

Europe - United Kingdom (problems to CIJS03@VAXB.STRATHCLYDE.AC.UK):
(This site has the new 1992.Feb.27 edition which is the current edition)
From the InterNet do all this; from JANET omit the first two steps:
TELNET SUN.NSF.AC.UK (128.86.8.7)
Login: janet
hostname: UK.AC.GLASGOW.BUBL  (JANET domain-names reversed from InterNet)
After specifying the terminal type, then pressing return to get the
main menu, select entree D--Directories, and in the sub-menu select
D10--Maas, then in that sub-sub-menu select individual files.
Note: You cannot formally FTP these files, but you can print to screen,
and collect a transcript locally if your terminal emulator has that
capability, then edit out the prompts for each new page when you are
offline. You can also have a copy e-mailed to your host; send your
request to D. M. Nicholson <CIJS03@vaxb.strathclyde.ac.uk> (remember to
reverse the domain-style name, thus actually uk.ac.strathclyde.vaxb, if
you are on JANET instead of InterNet.)

Europe - Continental:
There is no FTP or fileserver access yet, but somebody in Greece has
volunteered to set up an FTP host soon, and in the meantime to manually
send copies by e-mail to interested people. Send your request to:
Bitnet: VARVERI@GRATHDEM
Internet: evarveri@isosun.ariadne-t.gr
x400: c=gr;prmd=ariadne-t;o=ariadne-t;ou=isosun;s=varveri

Australia #1 (problems to G.Huston@aarnet.edu.au):
(This site has the new 1992.Feb.27 edition which is the current edition)
ftp aarnet.edu.au (139.130.204.4) pub/doc/MaasInfo.TopIndex

Australia #2 (problems to Steven.Bittinger@cc.utas.edu.au):
(As of 1992.Mar.06, this site had only the 1991.Dec.23 edition)
ftp ftp.utas.edu.au (131.217.10.1) pub/doc/MAASINFO/MaasInfo.TopIndex

Elsewhere (Tiawan, Saudi Arabia, South America, India, etc.):
(There's nothing near you, so you gotta fetch it long-distance.)

Note that all directories and sub-directories shown above are specified
in Unix syntax. Most user-FTP programs take that syntax, even those
that run under VM/CMS. But some don't, and you'll have to connect to
each level of directory individually with such a program. For example
/pub/doc/MAASINFO.TOPINDEX means you connect to the toplevel pub
directory, and inside that you connect to the doc sub-directory, and
finally in that sub-directory you get the file named MAASINFO.TOPINDEX.


Most of these FTP & fileserver sites have the other MaasInfo files in
the same directory where MaasInfo.TopIndex is posted. Be sure the
version of MaasInfo.Files you get is dated 1992.Feb.27 or more
recently. Then be sure the versions of the other files match the dates
listed in MaasInfo.Files.


If you didn't see the earlier announcements: MaasInfo.TopIndex is a
toplevel index to all the major online indexes available on the
InterNet (including BitNet and UseNet). These indexes cover FTP sites,
interest groups on all three networks, file servers, library catalogs,
public-access hosts, and other generally-useful services on the three
nets. MaasInfo.DocIndex is an index to most of the major online
tutorial documents about network services. Both files tell where to
obtain the various indexes and documents via FTP or fileserver. Other
MaasInfo files supply how-to information for some of the more useful
but lesser-known services not documented in any other accessible files.


Contact me if you have trouble fetching the files from the above sites,
or if you have errata or new useful&relevant information to submit, or
if you want to get a license for commercial use of any of these files,
or if you maintain an anonymous-FTP or fileserver site and want it to
become another primary archive site for these files:
Robert Elton Maas, 415-969-2958, rem@BTR.Com