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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: AFTER HOURS (was HEAD-less)
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:57:38 GMT
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd.: The Danes Call It Quality


cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:

Mark> Roseanne Arquette puts a spin on her usual semi-psychotic character
Mark> who has a few secrets of her own, and her roommate is played
Mark> wonderfully (by....name, please?)

Linda Fiorentino.

Another vote for AFTER HOURS.  From the first frame to the closing
credits, a stunning film.


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From: midnight@mdnite.enet.dec.com (Dr. Midnight)
Subject: Re: unforgiven
Reply-To: midnight@mdnite.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:12:52 GMT


In article <1992Aug15.1489.26259@channel1>, "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
>>          (MAJOR SPOILER WARNING!)
>>          It's with Ned Logan's character that Eastwood makes his only bow
>>     towards political correctness: not once in the movie is the fact that
>>     Ned is black mentioned.  On one hand, this is a good move on
  
I thought this was weird too.  However:


>>   Hollywood's part, but on the other hand it subtracts slightly from
>>     the realistic feel of the movie - after all, the 19th Century was
>>     as racist a time as ever there was, here in America.  The problem
>>     here is with the ultimate fate of Ned Logan: does this constitute
>>     the Hollywood clice of once again killing off a major black character
>>     in the cast, while the white guys live on to the end of the movie?
>>     Ned's death is an important plot twist, and it's certainly essential
>>     to the story.  But casting Morgan Freeman in this role called my
>>     attention once again to the way blacks are portrayed in Hollywood
>>     movies.  Or am I merely overreacting?


I think you are overreacting a little.  It dawned on me during the movie (and
now!) that Morgan Freeman's part might not be that of a black man, albeit the
actor was a black man.  Which might explain why his 'blackness' wasn't
addressed during the movie, which WAS rather unrealistic.  

Then again, maybe it was just me.


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From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Re: Lethal Cows
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 23 Aug 92 01:48:03 CDT

In article <na-nc8-@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>
>Tommy, having witnessed an affair between his mother and uncle, is 'convinced'
>by them that he didn't see anything, hear anything and can't tell anybody
>anything. The grown-ups discover what they've done to Tommy one Christmas
>day, and proceed to try and 'cure' Tommy through varied means. (including,
>in the movie version, a psyched-out Tina Turner playing an Acid Queen, a
>Marilyn Monroe church and a pinball playing Elton John in 6" platform
>shoes.). Tommy has a talent for pinball, it seems, and becomes an icon-
>soon exploited, when he regains his seeing, hearing, and speech. Its a funky
>rock-opera, a really weird movie and a great set of music.

Hmm.  You know I read the rock opera back in high school and I sure as heck
didn't get anything as wild as that out of it!  (I was kind of going on
the assumption that Tommy was just autistic or something...)

Was I supposed to get that out of the rock opera script and music?  Or should
I go see the movie sometime?

I'm pretty sure everyone else in that class was just as confused as I. :-)

						---Joel Kolstad

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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:31:42 GMT

In article <66279@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:

>In article <80370003@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> deanc@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Dean Cashen) writes:

>>This whole "PC" thing's going drive me nuts.  

Me too.  People who use those two letters, that is.  They seem to be the
modern equivalent of "commie pinko fag" or "yuppie scum" -- i.e.,
totally meaningless.

>I don't know.  For the first 20 years of my life, women in film, drama, etc,
>were referred to as "actresses".  

They still were most of the time, last I looked.

>What's the deal?  Is it so degrading to women to use a different noun?

The answer is "Yes, it can be."  If you can calm down and set aside your
"reductio ad absurdam" hypotheses....

It used to be assumed that authors were male.  When women started
achieving stature as writers too, they were referred to as authoresses.
Note the distinction here: *Real* writers are male, women writers are a
special phenomenon.  We no longer hear the term "authoress," as far as I
know; everyone came to consider it ridiculous and degrading.

Same thing with words like aviatrix, Jewess, composeress (I've seen it),
you name it.  They've mostly died out of usage; this isn't "rewriting
the English language," it's normal development and evolution.

The biggest survival (besides waitress) is "actress."  20 years ago
Valerie Harper was stating her annoyance with the term; these days
Whoopi Goldberg is (to name only 2 among many).  They resent the implied
(but never-stated, hence hard to fight) assumption that a *real*
acting-person is male.

I will add that the term is probably here to stay anyway, and for a very
simple reason: people like to give (and get) acting awards, and having 
separate male/female categories allows them to give out twice as many.

As for me, reforming this usage isn't on my list of top 100 causes to
support, but I'm not going to belittle the perceptions of those to whom
the word applies, who don't like it.  They're not nuts, despite your
efforts to make them sound so.

Jon Alan Conrad
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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: TOP TEN MOVIES, as 19 August 1992
Date: 22 Aug 92 17:40:33 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

Following is a list of the top-ten grossing movies in the U.S. as of 19
August 1992 (source: Seattle P-I, 19 August 1992). The first dollar
column lists the amount grossed in millions of dollars in the previous
weekend. The second dollar column lists the total gross receipts in the
U.S. through the end of the previous weekend.

1     UNFORGIVEN                        $ 11.4 M   $33.8 M

2     SINGLE WHITE FEMALE                 10.2       debut

3     DEATH BECOMES HER                    5.9      35.3

4     3 NINJAS                             4.6      14.0

5     A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN                3.8      89.1

6     STAY TUNED                           3.5       debut

7     RAISING CAIN                         3.4      12.6

8     HONEY, I BLEW UP THE KID             2.5      49.1

9     SISTER ACT                           2.4     120.8

10    MO' MONEY                            2.3      33.6

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
From: serge@dgbt.doc.ca (Serge Ah Hee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What is Arnie doing ??
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:33:00 GMT
Organization: The Communications Research Centre

In article <1992Aug17.212536.9347@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>In article <16m1bfINN57v@ensta.ensta.fr> corwin@ensta.ensta.fr (Gilles Gravier) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug15.233731.3565@daimi.aau.dk> pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) writes:
>>>ME writes:
>>>
>>>>In article <1992Aug6.104523.8544@daimi.aau.dk> jsd@daimi.aau.dk (Jacob Steen Due) writes:
>>>>>Well the subject says it all - What is Arnold Schwarzenegger doing theese 
>>>>>days ??
>>>I don't know, but I know what he should be doing - making 
>>	I know what he is doing. Starting in November, he is working on
>>Terminator 3. Should come out 4th of July 1993. Another Cameron/Kassar 
>>production.
>>	As Jim Cameron said, "I was always fascinated by the idea of war
>>for peace"... Mario Kassar added "This is not going to be a cheap movie".
>>
>>	Well, we all know, now... We have 10 month to wait.
>>
>>	Gilles.
>
>I believe that's Terminator 4.  3 is being skipped as a promotional
>gimick -- it happens in the future, or at least an alternate future
>in which Skynet has secreted away part of its intelligence to
>ensure a rebirth and eventual creation of 4 identical terminators,
>which act alike, talk alike, walk alike, identical in every way.
>One prefers the Ballet Russe and crepes Suzette, another rock and
>roll, the third frequently loses control, the fourth is just another
>of this crazy quartet, yet different as night and day.
>
>I'm not sure they'll pull it off, but Arnie plays all four parts and
>Robert Patrick plays an adult John Connor.  Working title is
>"Terminator 4: Prejudgment Day".
>
>Hope this helps.
>
>GM(a-t-t-s)S

	Funny, I wonder what Arnie would look like in tights? I hope this isn't 
serious! (Oh God please don't let it be , pretty pretty please!!!)

Serge
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PC terms for actresses? (was Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?)
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:56:54 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <BD.92Aug19121817@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>
>
>The only place I recall seeing women referred to by the title of "Mr." is Star 
>Trek.  Has this happened anywhere else?
>-- 

Well at the risk of being totally incorrect -- I believe "Mister" is the
official form of address for a Navy Ensign, which I believe was Savik's
rank.  (Star Trek has pretty much used naval ranks for their officers all
along).  While most ranks would be addressed with their rank name (i.e.
a commander adressed as "Commander Smith", etc.), I think a person with
the rank of ensign is addressed as "Mister" whether male or female. Therefore
this is just correct military procedure, not some response to the gender-
removal advocated by "PC" women's rights advocates. 

With regard to the larger subject, I can understand the desire of some
women's-rights advocates to remove the implied belittlement they see
in some gender-specific titles, but if taken to its extreme this tendency
could get ridiculous.  Eventually we'd end up even getting rid of "man"
and "woman" and everyone would be a "person".  It could get real confusing.
I do some acting in community theatre, and I'm not comfortable with calling
myself an "actor".  Maybe these gender-specific titles will eventually
die a natural death, but I'm not in favor of forcing them out.  We have
many more important things on our agenda as women.


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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: MPAA Ratings Trivia (was: Warriors)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 19:37:54 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

> By the time "The Warriors" came out, the M rating was gone, replaced by
> GP.  Eventually, GP was replaced by PG, which still survives. 

GP only lasted a couple of years, and was replaced by PG long before
_The Warriors_ was released.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Unforgiven (Spoilers)
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:12:51 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

In Unforgiven (what the heck does the title refer to, anyway?) after Eastwood
gets the shit kicked out of him, he's taken somewhere to a barn to get better.
One morning he wakes up and the ground is all covered with snow! In a
subsequent shot outside, the snow is seen all the way to the horizon. I just
wonder how far is this location from the town? After all, it's close enough so
that the "girls" can slip away (unnoticed?) to visit him. The town itself seems
to be a very rainy place, on the other hand. (I mentioned this to a friend, he
suggested the town must be like Vancouver where you can "swim in the morning
and ski in the afternoon...")

I also thought it was rather interesting how Eastwood, Freeman and the kid
could so easily find the two guys who were responsible for slashing the girl at
the beginning of the film.

One thing I didn't like was the musical score by Lennie Niehaus, which was
insignificant. What a pity that Jerry Fielding, who did such a great job with
Outlaw Josey Wales, had to die at such a relatively young age. At least the
wide-screen photography was superb.

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From: donofrio@nereid.sal.ists.ca (Frank D'onofrio)
Subject: alan rickman quote
Organization: Space Astrophysics Laboratory, ISTS, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:09:20 GMT


The quote is from Die Hard 1.  As for the source, I can only guess at
Plutarch.  Maybe somebody in rec.arts.books or sci.classics can help you.
From: wwr@calmasd.prime.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Unforgivable  ***SPOILERS***
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:47:00 GMT
Organization: Computervision - A Division of Prime Computer

>>But don't post shit about something simply because you couldn't understand it
>>all that it had to offer. 
> 
> The only one who's posting shit is you. Your intolerance and
> arrogance is ugly.
> 
> -- 
> Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
> 	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda

	As is your ignorance.  At least I can admit to a fault you narrow,
shallow minded, stale wisp of a noxious fart.

	Hey, c'mon.  You posted this public.  You didn't expect to take an
insult laying down did you?  ;)

	However, if you would like to continue this verbal potty mouthing,
let's spare everyone else & keep it just between us, eh?

walter

p.s. as a form of compliment, i thought you .sig very appropriate & a bit of an
understatement.
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From: hcleong@iti.gov.sg (Leong Heng Cheong)
Subject: Omnimax Film Festival of Singapore
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:40:29 GMT

Highlights of the Ominmax Film Festival of Singapore
----------------------------------------------------
* ANATARCTICA (39 mins)
  Sept 7,9,11: 2pm
  Experience the awesome grandeur of the world's highest, driest, coldest
  and windiest continet as you relive the gruelling exploits of the first
  explorers of the landscape.

* SACRED SITE (7 mins)
  LIVING PLANET (32 mins)
  Sept 7,9,11: 8pm
  Filmed at Ayer's Rock in Austrialia, SACRED SITE captures the majestic
  appearance of Halley's Comet in 1986.
  LIVING PLANET is a tribute to the variety of natural and man-made
  landscapes, from the crowded streets of New York to the tranquillity of
  natural settings.

* HOMELAND (23 mins)
  Sept 8,10,12: 11am
  Made for Singapore's 25th anniversary celebration by a Californian
  company, this film traces the struggle of Singapore's early settlers to
  make the island their homeland.

* GRAND CANYON: THE HIDDEN SECRETS (35 mins)
  Sept 8,10,12: Noon
  The GRAND CANYON traces the relationship between man and the canyon,
  from the native American's' first descent into its vast deptshs in 2250
  BC to the present day.

* THE FIRST EMPEROR OF CHINA (40 mins)
  Sept 8,10,12: 3pm
  A recreation of the terror and glory of Emperor Qin Shihuang's reign.

* ISLAND CHILD (28 mins)
  Sept 8,10,12: 8pm
  Indonesia's natural and cultural diversity is seen thourgh the eyes of
  its children.

* ROLLING STONES AT THE MAX (100 mins)
  Sept 11, 12: 9pm
  An electrifying concert by the longest surviving and most influential
  rock band.

This film festival is held in conjuction with the International Space
Theatre Consortium, an association of makers and distributors of Omnimax
films.  The conference will discuss the technology of making Omnimax
films, as well as how to market and fund them.  The above selection is
only part of the 31 films and short subjects to be shown during the
festival from Sept 7 to 12.  It will be shown in Singapore OmniTheatre.

Source: The Straits Times

Heng Cheong
  hcleong@iti.gov.sg
From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REFRESH
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:46:33 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

In article <5704@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at>,
mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
|>From article <65486@hydra.gatech.EDU>, by ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU
(Jorge Diaz):
|>> It's not just vampire films!  In everything nowadays, when you have the
|>> good-guy-vs-bad-guy fight at the end, most of the time, the bad guy
|>> gets "killed" only to come back for one last shot.  Examples (in no
|>> particular order):
|> 
|>> Alien
|>
|>No, Alien does not fit that description.  The Alien is not even hurt
|>seriously until Ripley pops him out of the airlock and turns the
|>engines on him.
|>
|>> Terminator
|>
|>This, I think, is the one that started the trend.
|>

   No way. The earliest film I ever saw this cliche was Carpenter's
"Hallowe'en". If I remember rightly Michael Myers "dies" about 4 times
in that and gets up again. I sure there must be earlier films, though.
                        
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| ORACLE Corp, UK     |                  you're f*cked forever!" |
| Edinburgh, SCOTLAND |        - Frank Booth ("Blue Velvet")     |
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: What is Arnie doing ??
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:25:36 GMT

In article <16m1bfINN57v@ensta.ensta.fr> corwin@ensta.ensta.fr (Gilles Gravier) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.233731.3565@daimi.aau.dk> pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted) writes:
>>ME writes:
>>
>>>In article <1992Aug6.104523.8544@daimi.aau.dk> jsd@daimi.aau.dk (Jacob Steen Due) writes:
>>>>Well the subject says it all - What is Arnold Schwarzenegger doing theese 
>>>>days ??
>>I don't know, but I know what he should be doing - making 
>	I know what he is doing. Starting in November, he is working on
>Terminator 3. Should come out 4th of July 1993. Another Cameron/Kassar 
>production.
>	As Jim Cameron said, "I was always fascinated by the idea of war
>for peace"... Mario Kassar added "This is not going to be a cheap movie".
>
>	Well, we all know, now... We have 10 month to wait.
>
>	Gilles.

I believe that's Terminator 4.  3 is being skipped as a promotional
gimick -- it happens in the future, or at least an alternate future
in which Skynet has secreted away part of its intelligence to
ensure a rebirth and eventual creation of 4 identical terminators,
which act alike, talk alike, walk alike, identical in every way.
One prefers the Ballet Russe and crepes Suzette, another rock and
roll, the third frequently loses control, the fourth is just another
of this crazy quartet, yet different as night and day.

I'm not sure they'll pull it off, but Arnie plays all four parts and
Robert Patrick plays an adult John Connor.  Working title is
"Terminator 4: Prejudgment Day".

Hope this helps.

GM(a-t-t-s)S
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: rcoadh@potoroo.co.rmit.oz.AU (Alexander Doktorovich)
Subject: fault in BACK to the FUTURE II
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:51:43 GMT

Hi,
Seing `Back to the FUTURE II' on TV (for the first time) I was impressed
at the consistency of the events - except for one which really fauls things
up. 
When Marty and Doc are in the future, the old Biff steals the DMC, goes to
the past, gives the Sports Almanac to himself and arrives back.
Now, if old and younger Biffs were succesful in altering the future, as we
saw when Marty and Doc arrived back to 1985, then how did the old Biff arrive
back into the _unchanged_ future?
Alex.
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: <None>
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:45:04 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Aug22.183524.25077@daimi.aau.dk>, rorschak@daimi.aau.dk 
(Jesper Lauridsen) writes:

> Which actor has played the highest number of different nationalities?
> My first guess is Peter Sellers (English, French, German, Indian, 
> Spanish, American and probably a couple of others that I have forgot).

Alec Guiness is up there, as is Lawrence Olivier.

And I'd also commend Daniel Day Lewis for a few of his accents.  And let's
not forget Meryl Streep...

Greg Bole                              "Lord, thank you for that waitress in 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu            South Bend.  You know the one, she was
                                        calling your name the whole time."
                                          Tom Hanks in _A Leauge of Their Own_
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From: mroosen@prl.philips.nl (Monique Roosen)
Subject: Where can I find any movie gif's ??
Reply-To: mroosen@prl.philips.nl
Organization: Information & Software Technology, Philips Eindhoven
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:20:59 GMT

The subject-line says it all.

Does anybody out there know where I can find any movie gifs ??
I'm thinking of movie posters and acters/actresses or any movie stills.

Maybe there is a remote mailserver somewhere, like the one for pop groups.

Any info is highly appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

Monique
-- 
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| Internet: mroosen@prl.philips.nl    	 I just don't want to be there when   |
+----- 					 it happens"     -- Woody Allen. -----+
From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 13 Aug 92 11:05:38 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Aug12.032411.22033@trl.oz.au>, by briganti@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Joe Briganti):
> Of course, I've come into this late in the piece but what about "Catch 22"??

Yes, definitely.
-- 
Markus Stumptner                                mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at
University of Technology Vienna                 vexpert!mst@relay.eu.net
Paniglg. 16, A-1040 Vienna, Austria             ...mcsun!vexpert!mst
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Subject: Re: Mia and Woody
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:53:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.024034.9265@news.columbia.edu>, egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
> Well, it looks like it's over.  They've just started custody battles
> for the kids.

In more ways than one.

A blurb in the paper sez that Woody (56) has taken up with Mia's
adopted daughter (21).

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Not an Intel spokesman 			- Bill the Cat 
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