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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:29 EST
From: Tom Joyce <R602TJ06@VB.CC.CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Wrens escape Lightning burns

In r.s.h Tom Wilson (wilson@cs.ucf.edu) writes
>That's a good excuse. Now it will be that Stevens is out. Next week, it will
>be a different excuse.

What excuse? The running attitude among most people I've spoken with is
that the Pens have enough offensive firepower with Mullen and Errey back.
Don't get me wrong: Stevens absence will be felt. But, its early in the
season. By the way, I don't blame the last two losses on Stevens' being
out.

>>Hmmm, that article wasn't too biased, Mr. "I hate the Pens" Wilson, was it.
>                                                      ^    ^
>                                              obnoxious    fans
Right. And what was the name of your team in the hockey draft last year?
Well? Well? How about "Pens_R_Flukes". Not biased? Give me a break!
YOU need to patch that.

>You need to patch that. I have nothing against the team. I have never met or
>talked to any of them. Note also that this excludes many Pens fans too, since
>I'm only referring to the obnoxious bandwaggon jumping jerks.

Ditto for any bandwaggon fans, be they Bruin or Lightning ones, etc.

>Keep dreaming. I made that decision long before your crap came into my mailbox.
>Glenn Chin can vouch for that (as well as the statement about the fans above).
>Fortunately there are more good people on the net than the bad.

What the hell are you talking about? Your "I'm leaving" speech was hilarious.


>You typify the paranoid. I post an article that opposes the dozens of articles
>that have been posted THIS SEASON about how great the team is, and all of a
>sudden I hate the players. I already had you classified, but thanks for
>checking in. Thanks for coming out of the woodwork and posting more noise.

The problem with you, as I'm sure some folks are bound to agree, is that
you try to police the newsgroup too damn much.  In many respects the moniker
of "self-proclaimed r.s.h. god" fits; it fits the attitude you project.
The stuff about NHLstats is fine for those who don't have access to other 
stat sources. Otherwise, its of nominal value. Let me be clear: you're not
doing us a huge favor with all this bandwidth you post. Quit acting like
its pulitzer material. Admit it, you have the affinity to be a blatant
cheerleader as much as anyone does. To say that you don't is laughable.
"Holier than thou", you are.

You already posted one exceptionally biased article. Why not follow it up
with another? I'm sure you will.
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: ESPN's Tuesday night game
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:21:29 GMT

In article <2096@hsdndev.UUCP> nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder) writes:
>Gary Thorne mentioned during ESPN's telecast that Edmomnton was one
>tired road team after they trailed early in the game at St.Louis Arena.
>
>He also mentioned that Edmonton Oilers never have direct flights out
>of Edmonton and that they always change planes somewhere. It was kind
>of hard to believe that they would have to always change planes to get to
>Winnepeg or Vancouver or Calgary. The Oiler management should probably
>consider using charter flights instead of commercial if such situation
>exists.
>
>Can someone confirm this info about no direct flights out of Edmonton?
>

Edmonton has direct flights to most major Canadian cities from Toronto
westward...the trouble is that the lack of open skies means it is not
particularly well-connected into the US. 

Gerald
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: SENATORS NEWS:  General update
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:21:11 GMT
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov9.040318.21088@bcrka451.bnr.ca>, simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson) writes:
> Archibald was a junior phenom in the WHL (the youngest ever to play and score
> a goal in the WHL at **14** years of age).  He was taken by Minnesota in the

I thought the holder of the record for youngest player in the WHL was Glen
Goodall, drafted by Detroit. I'm not sure if Goodall scored a goal or not
though. Maybe the WHL contact can help us out here. 
Randy?
								Alan
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From: anderson@zymurgy.bms.com (Jay Anderson)
Subject: Does anyone get hockey on Ku band (TVRO)??
Organization: BMS Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:45:01 GMT

Is there any hockey to be seen in-the-clear on Ku band?  I just got a small
dish and am curious if there is anything to be seen.

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From: twollnik@aud.alcatel.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: CHL:  FANS !!!
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:48:32 GMT

twollnik@fozzy.UUCP (Ted Wollnik) writes:

>This is a simple post to get some responses out of all you RSH folks out
>there.  Obviously, you should have all heard about the NEW Central Hockey
>League, with teams in Dallas, Forth Worth, Memphis, Witchita, Oklahoma City,
>and tulsa, but how many of you are interested in hering statistics on the
>teams, players ...etc.

>Marc Foster (and I) put together that CHL newsletter that goes out to RSH, 
>but how many of you would be curious to see box scores...rosters...etc.

>For instance, did you know that Brett Hull's little brother tried out for
>the Forth Worth Fire?  His coach Peter Mahavolich (sp?), ex-canadians player,
>cut him.  

>For instance, did you know that Chris Chelios' little brother Steve, tried out
>for the Dallas Freeze.  His coach, Ron Flockhart, ex-Flyers ex-blues player,
>kept him on the roster.

>Is there any interest out there for more CHL information ??


Well I really find it hard to believe that nobody gives a shit...Especially since players
UNDER NHL contracts are playing in the CHL.  Such as Roch Belley (property of the Chicago
Blackhawks), who is playing for the Fort Worth Fire.

Mahavolich is a scout for the San Jose Sharks ... There are numerous players from the ECHL,
and equally as many from Europe.

Once again...besides the newsletter people...Any intrest out there ???!!??
P.S. IF YOU INTEND TO RESPONSE WITH THE "r" reply option, you must change the address to
     whom you are sending the letter.  twollnik@fozzy (or whatever is not valid)  USE
     THE INTERNET ADDRESS SHOWN BELOW.....Thanks..

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yeah I know!! but at least it HOCKEY !!!!
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Subject: Re: U.S. "Dream Team"
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:25:17 MST
 <1992Nov11.230742.23405@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> <1992Nov12.015929.5795@adobe.com> <1992Nov12.041243.4974@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov12.041243.4974@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
> Canada doesn't need a dream team...we have 2 fourths and a silver medal
> in the last three Olympics with our national team program...that is
> pretty damn good.

Not for a country that likes to call itself one of the best in the world at
the sport, it isn't. 

								Alan
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From: slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Grant Fuhr going to Buffalo?
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:27:24 GMT

Here's an article plucked from todays paper:
 
"Rumors persist about a trade that would send now-injured Toronto 
goalie Grant Fuhr to Buffalo.  The latest report was in the Globe and 
Mail Wednesday.  The deal is starting to make sense, first considring 
John Muckler, Fuhr's old boss in Edmonton, runs the Sabres' show.  
Secondly, you have to take into account Buffalo's need for a goalie.  
Remember, the Sabres almost swung a pre-season deal for Sean Burke.  
Thirdly is the solid play for Tronto by rookie netminder Felix 
Potvin."
 
Stephen Legge
SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
 
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From: 890491g@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Graves)
Subject: Re: Wendel Clark Trade?
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:23:00 GMT

nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:

>>	Who in the hell asked you to be the net contact for the Leafs
>>anyway?  If you are going to report Leafs' happenings, why don't you
>>just report them without your dickhead comments about how much you hate
>>them?
>>	Get a life, asshole!

>YOU get a life.  Who says that one must be a fan to be a team contact anyway?
>And it is *very* inappropriate to attack someone else's .sig anyway.

	I wasn't just attacking his .sig - I was attacking his shit attitude
approach towards the way he reported things.  I just quoted his .sig because
it was a small sample of his posts.


>Besides, if you think that Darryl is not doing a good job, why didn't you
>volunteer in the first place?  It's always easier said than done.  There was

	Actually I don't think he's doing a good job - it seems that he only
posts once every couple of months anyway.  I couldn't care less if there
existed a net contact for the Leafs anyway, since the media coverage is good 
enough for me (eg Sportsdesk).

>*no* Toronto contact for a major part of last season, until Darryl volunteered.

	Big hairy deal.


-- 
Don Graves (don.graves@dragon.acadiau.ca)
Acadia University,
Wolfville, N.S. Canada
From: hp@mdavcr.mda.ca (Hossein Parandeh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: -Rob = 'Next' key
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:10:36 GMT
Organization: MacDonald Dettwiler, 13800 Commerce Parkway, Richmond, BC, Canada  V6V 2J3

My 'next' key is not working properly anymore, I'm afraid -Rob has read my last
message and has changed my keyboard's settings (no, I am not a Wrens fan).
Damn, everytime I press the 'next' key, a message gets displayed on my screen
saying "-Rob loves you". I've even tried to unsubscribe from rec.sport.hockey,
but an error message saying "You have 2984 unread -Rob messages" gets displayed.

Anna, has this happened to you too? I'm just a Canucks fan, they have already
lost to the Wrens (I mean Pens) 5 - 1.
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From: wtm1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Tark McMains)
Subject: Cornell Hockey
Summary: Cornell Win Exhibition 9-5
Keywords: Cornell ECAC
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:54:28 GMT

On Saturday Cornell played its first Exhibition game against Waterloo.
The big red won 9-5 after trailing 2-0 early.  They open the season next
weekend against Princeton and Yale.

The first period was intense hokcey with a 4-4 tie and the buzzer.  Cornell
having lost its starting goalie, was week in net, but the D looked good.
Neither goalie played well, and Cornell took off in the second period scoring
5 unanswered goals.

Tark
Go RED!
Go Bruins!





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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Why tie scores? (was IHL parent clubs)
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:07:30 GMT

In article <BxKqB1.78J@Novell.COM> dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich) writes:
>
>And thank goodness for that!! Why doesn't the NHL do that--play  
>sudden-death OT and then a shootout (or 2 or 3 or...) if still tied after  
>OT? Did they ever do something like that (I can't remember)? It makes it  
>*much* more exciting (especially the shootouts!), and you (not to mention  
>the players!) don't feel gipped by a tie score.

Sarcasm On!

Why don't they have a home run derby after 9 innings of baseball if
the score is tied...it would be *much* more exciting.

Why don't they have a free throw contest if after regulation an
NBA basketball game is tied.

Gerald
From: surfdog@ossi.com (John Onusko)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: True fans
Date: 6 Nov 1992 15:51:39 -0800
Organization: Open Systems Solutions Inc.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: akasha.ossi.com

harrison@mpr.ca (Jeff Harrison) writes:

>That said, your posts do come across more intelligently than 80% of the
>Penguin bandwagon fans rantings that seem to create unneeded noise here.
>I don't understand! Why do you never see someone from outside of PSU or
>CMU post a one-time "MY TEAM RULES!!! ALL OTHERS SUCK" messages? It seems
>that 99% of them come from these two institutions. I mean, I sit there
>shaking my head, wondering what's in the air or water that causes this
>phenomena. 

It might be the inbreeding in the area, or maybe the polluted rivers, because
all my relatives from the area (Mon. Valley) behave the same way! I'm sure 
that if they were literate and had net access, we would see many more such
postings.
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Subject: Wrens get Wrenvege 8-4
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:59:26 EST
Organization: Penn State University

The Pens got revenge last night and dominated the Blues 8-4.
The Penguins have no beaten or tied every team they've played this season
to go to 11-1-2 pushing them to 10 games over .500 for the first time since -
geez - does anybody know?  i'm just curious!
                                                                -Rob
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From: johann@jester.usask.ca (James Johannesson)
Subject: Zhamnov... when did he come back.. how does he look?
Originator: johann@jester.usask.ca
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:05:04 GMT

Hi All...

  When did Zhamnov come back from his injury? Did he play in either of
the blow-outs the Jets had (against Edm. or Van.?) I am curious cause
someone has him in our fantasy league and is looking to move him.

James

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From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: The Senators finish first!!!  (Sort of...)
Date: 13 Nov 1992 22:21:39 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: crisium.astro.ubc.ca

In article <1992Nov13.132847.2899@mtroyal.ab.ca> caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.230448.11180@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>> Whose to say Daigle won't pull a Lindros...can you see these Ottawa
>> clowns forking over lets say half of Lindros's salary per year to
>> sign Daigle...say $1.5 mil per year or so...these guys who were too cheap
>> to sign minor league free agents like Rob Zamuner, Chris Kontos, etc.,
>> etc...
>> 
>> If you were a top junior, looking at the Senator organization, would
>> you want to play there?                         
>
>Daigle has publicly stated that he will be happy just to play in the NHL, and
>will play for any team that drafts him. As for the money, he said "I want
>to make enough money that I won't have to punch a time card after I retire". 
>That can be interpreted a couple different ways. I like this kid already.
>

   Ottawa also has one additional attractactive selling point as far as Daigle
   in concerned ... they cleverly drafted Claude Savoie in the '92 draft (194th
   overall), setting up a potential Daigle-Savoie continuation in the pros!

   Brad
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From: wtm1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Tark McMains)
Subject: Season Too long?
Summary: NHL season too long?
Keywords: NHL Season
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 13 Nov 92 22:07:11 GMT

I was reading a story about Cornell Hockey players turning Pro, and I came
across a quote that I thought was interesting.

"When you play so many games, they're not so big.  You have to get yourself
 psyched."  compared to college where "everything is big."

                         -Parris Duffus

I went to my first Cornell hockey game last week and I thought it was A LOT
more exciting than going to a Bruins game, and it was only exhibition.
 		
Tark
From: abcs3500@Oswego.EDU (Bill Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: some college hockey results
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:11:09 GMT
Reply-To: abcs3500@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Bill Wood)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

for all of you who are interested in SUNYAC and ECAC hockey results, here
are a few from over here:

Oswego Great Lakers opened their season on Halloween night and got a 
scare from the RIT Tigers.  After being down 1-0 and 2-1, they fought
back to tie the game at 3 with 0:34 left in the 3rd period.  Then as time 
expired, the puck found its way into the net (I forgot who shot it).
The whole arena celebrated the goal, except for RIT who protested quite
loudly to the officials, who waved-off the goal saying time had indeed
expired.  The teams played to a 3-3 tie.

One thought that came up was the fact that we lack green lights (the ones 
that signify the end of the period).  Does anyone else have this same problem?

Then, this past weekend came two games in less than two days... Saturday night
St Bonaventure ventures in and took an early 2-0 lead.  Oswego then scored the
next 8 goals on the way to a 9-3 win.

Sunday afternoon in came the Univ. Scranton Royals.  This game was close for 
almost the first 10 minutes, but Oswego again pulled away for a 15-0
shelling of the team they beat 21-0 on opening night last year.

Any other ECAC-East and SUNYAC scores anyone can post would be a great help
since central NY media doesn't cover hockey much.  Maybe some of us can 
put together weekly standing lists or something....

Questions/replies can be directed to me at: abcs3500@oswego.oswego.edu

Bill
Go Great Lakers

p.s. --Bri... do you follow Pottsdam??? Maybe I'll meet you there if
I can make it to that game??
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From: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Nov. 12 games of the night!!!
Reply-To: ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson)
Organization: University of Rochester Hockey Science Dept.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:28:16 GMT


In article <92317.091816RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>5 Stars (Must See!)
>Calgary at Boston. [...]
>Bruins will be hungry for a win after a defeat to their rival, the Canadiens,
>last night.

Well, right, or the Sabres. Or maybe any Bruins loss is a Canadiens
win -- I wouldn't argue with that!

George
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From: bwalhof@ub.d.umn.edu (Barry)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Players who changed the sport
Date: 11 Nov 1992 11:46:35 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu



I wish there were more teams around today like the "Broad Street Bullies"

Minnesota/Phily were some of the best games ever held at the Met.
From: zeus@aero.org (Dave Suess)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Kings swap Ahola for Chykrun
Date: 6 Nov 1992 18:30:41 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: zapodid.aero.org
Summary: looking for more "toughness"
Keywords: Defense, LAKings, Pitts

After last night's game against New Jersey, the Kings announced the
trade of Peter Ahola, big 2nd-year defenseman, to Pittsburgh, for
Jeff Chykrun, whom the Kings traded away last year as part of the
deal to get Paul Coffey.  The rationale was that the coach/Kings were
unhappy with Ahola's lack of aggressiveness (despite his size) and
were looking for more toughness and emotional play.

Personally, I have my doubts; Chyk stuck up for folks just dandy, but
his defensive skills aren't as good as Ahola's (or, at least, as good
as Ahola's will be with more seasoning).  Kings defense is now pivoted
not by Coffey, but by big Rob Blake, who is becoming awesome.  Last night
he broke up two two-on-ones and a three-on-one, his checking is clean and
awfully hard, he can catch almost anybody from behind with three or four
strides, and his shot is a blast.  I guess I won't miss Ahola.
				Dave Suess	zeus@aerospace.aero.org



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From: seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr)
Subject: Re: Pelle Eklund injury?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:00:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.182852.17331@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>, yvon@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Yvon Lavoie) writes:
> 
> I was just wondering if anyone knows anything about Pelle Eklund. I know
> he broke his ankle in training camp but I was wondering when he will start
> playing again?  If anyone knows the scoop on Pelle, let me know.
> 
> 
> Yvon Lavoie

Last I heard Pelle was on schedule and should play in mid-late November.

pete clark - rsh FLYERS contact
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