From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Asian-male stereotyping, how?
Summary: What is WHINING?
Keywords: asian american, media, WHINING!
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 21:38:30 GMT

In article <1724@rwja.umdnj.edu> jpark@rwja.umdnj.edu (John Park) writes:
>[stupid whining deleted]
>Enter one of the newest immigrants to the good ol'USA: Asians.
>I'd bet persecution of asians doesn't have a strong historical precedent
>because we weren't as vulnerable as other minorities.  We have mother
>countries that have a decent military force

Huh?  The motherland of Oriental-Americans is America; of course, America
is the most formidable military arsenal in the world.  It is an arsenal
that is used currently, in most cases, to do "good" around the world.

                Case in point:  Somalia.
Possible future case in point:  the Republic of Taiwan.

On the other hand, if Mr. Park refers to East-Asian nations, then he
can't possibly be serious.  China and Korea had really lousy military
forces in the first half of this century.  Without American help (which
was repaid by Chinese-cu and Korean-cu troops killing American boys),
Japan would probably have retained much of China and all of Korea well
into the 21st century and beyond.

I do agree that Japan had a lethal military force, but it was
the only East-Asian nation who had one.  It should also be noted that
Japan was also the only East-Asian nation who modernized and who was willing
to learn from the West.  Contrast this intelligent approach to the
ostrich-head-in-the-sand approach used by the Chinese-cu racists.

>, and we were better prepared to come here.

Bull.

Does Mr. Park mean to tell me that Chinese-ge immigrants at the turn of the
century were better prepared to come here than, say, Mexican, immigrants?

Mr. Park had better not confuse (1) post-1960's Chinese-ge immigration
and (2) pre-1950's Chinese-ge immigration.  The dudes who worked on the
railroads and the like at the turn of the century were type #2.  They
came from the bottom of Chinese-cu society.

Ask this question:  "America at the time was openly hostile to non-Whites.
Why did Chinese-ge, by the thousands, fled to the USA?  Why did millions
more want to come?"  Answer:  "The Chinese-cu upper class had raped the
nation, leaving millions uneducated and dying of starvation, disease, and
infanticide."  So, it is utterly ridiculous to say that type #2 immigrants
were "better prepared to come here."

<Neil Diamond's "... coming to America, on the boats and on the planes, ...">

Saying that is belittling their struggles and accomplishments.  But I
will say that many of the type #2 immigrants were sexist and narrow-minded
jerks (in reference to "A Thousand Pieces of Gold"); they bought and sold
Chinese-ge women, literally.  These women were forced to stripped naked
so that the Chinese-ge jerks could assess their "equipment" and than offer
a suitable price for the merchandise.  This was indeed slavery, and 
regrettably, the American gov't did nothing to stop it.  (After the
scene in "A Thousand Pieces of Gold", where a Chinese-ge woman was told
in Cantonese to strip naked by the "product manager" for the Chinese-ge
"customer" in San Francisco, I changed the TV channel.  It was too painful
to watch.  Such baboons.  Such incredible baboons!)

On the other hand, Mr. Park's comments do apply to type #1 "immigrants"
(quotes intended).  These guys largely came from the Chinese-cu upperclass
or were descended from the upperclass that raped the Chinese-cu underclass
blind.  These bozos were, in fact, "better prepared to come here" than other
immigrants.

>(Africans were snatched out of their homes, and separated from their families 
>and their culture.)

(Like the way the Chinese-cu upper class raped the Chinese-cu lower class?)

>I'm not indicting caucasians.  This is probably human nature everywhere.

That's good to hear.  For a minute, Mr. Park really started to sound
Chinese-cu.

>[stupid whining deleted]

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