HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: Minimalist biking (was: Re: Dead Sidestand switch
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:57:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.202954.2970@informix.com>, dboyd@informix.com (Diana Boyd) writes:
> Not much else on my sportster to take off.

Throttle close cable, fenders, chain guard, sissy bar?, battery/ignition (replace
with magneto), front brake, all that shifter linkage (switch to jockey shift),
coil cover?, etc., etc., etc.

I bet there's still lots of stuff that could be removed...

- Roid
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.forsale
From: ramnath@equus.uucp ()
Subject: ** MOTORCYCLE for sale HONDA 350cc **
Organization: VLSI Technology, Inc. (San Jose)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:51:40 GMT


Honda CL 350 (1973 model) is for sale.

	Red/ chrome
	Twin cylinder 350 cc engine
	5-speed transmission
	11K miles
	New battery, clutch
	Clean
	Well-maintained, serviced, and garaged
	It's never been raced, dumped, or crashed
	Runs good: this is an ideal first bike,
		to learn riding and obtain your license on.

For $375, you will also get the Chilton's manual

Please call 408 434 3000 ext. 7817.
Leave a voicemail message if necessary.
From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: Maxim 650, my thoughts.
Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:29:43 GMT



	I bought a used '81 Maxim 650 3 (4?) years ago for $1150.
	It has worked great.  I have had it on trips of order
	800 km/day (500miles/day) three times.  I was tired, the
	bike was happy.  It's a good solid engine, and seems to handle
	very well for this style of bike.  

	So, to the dude that's selling the Maxim 400, try this bike
	if you can find one.  (I think the Radian block is almost
	identical, as it is with the older (newer?) Seca)

	Craig Hamm
From: ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Synthetic oils?
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:19:50 GMT
	<1992Jul16.235605.20361@news.Hawaii.Edu>
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>From: keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller)
>Subject: Re: Synthetic oils?
>Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 23:56:05 GMT
> 
>In article <3784.2A63CFA5@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
(John Ham
>ilton) writes:
>>Tuesday July 14 1992 22:29, Ahmed Sbaibi wrote to All:
>>
>> AS> @UFGATE newsin 1.27
>> AS> From: asbaibi@jade.tufts.edu (Ahmed Sbaibi)
>> AS> Date: 14 Jul 92 20:07:37 GMT
>> AS> Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
>> AS> Message-ID: <ASBAIBI.92Jul14160734@jade.tufts.edu>
>> AS> Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
>>
>> AS> Bikers suck shit
>>
>>We know were you are, asswipe.
>>
>>John
>>
>>--- GoldED 2.40.P0623+
>>--  
>>John Hamilton                  uucp: amdahl.com!kennel!john
>>DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
>>ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
>>She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
> 
>What's the matter Ahmed? Miss your camel so bad you have to post here for
>entertainment? Go back to your day job at 7-11 and get the fuck off the net.
 
knocking each others bikes, riding habits, choice of oil, ex-SO and so
forth is at least part of what this net is all about.  racist remarks,
though, are, i think, in the very poorest taste.  in the future please
post your sick garbage on rec.shit-brained.fascist.

thank you.

-peter

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*                             WATCH BACK!                           *
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* DoD #10o00                 Suzuki LS650H         NAUI INST. #1434 *
*                             (for sale)                            *
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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 27 Jul 1992 14:55:12 EDT
From: <CJOHNSON@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject:    Benelli Owners Group

Is there such a group out there ?
From: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: WV turnpike (was: Nicest Interstate)
Date: 31 Jul 1992 20:38:53 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Originator: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <92213.154957U2EF5@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>, U2EF5@wvnvm.wvnet.edu writes:
|> >In the Mid atlantic region, the stretch from Morgantown WVa to Fairmont
|> >WV is a lot of fun.  I don't have a map, but I think its on I-70.  They
|> >moved mountains to make that road.

I've never gotten to take the bike back to 'Almost Heaven' . . .but
doing the WV Turnpike(now that it's been 'rebuilt') was a blast in
the cage.  Fantastic sweepers . . enough to break a cage loose at
70+ mph in some places . . . it's gotta be grrrrrreeeeaaaattttt on
a bike . .. . . one of these days . . one of these days.

Mark "Texas is just toooooo flat!!! :-P " Parsons


-- 
Mark A. Parsons
mparsons@bcm.tmc.edu
From: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Nicest Interstate
Date: 25 Jul 92 05:49:50 GMT
	<1992Jul23.195051.15866@isc-br.isc-br.com>
Reply-To: slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: You wouldn't ask this if you'd seen my desk.
In-reply-to: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com's message of 23 Jul 92 19:50:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.195051.15866@isc-br.isc-br.com>, carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:

> OK, where's the _nicest_ chunk of Interstate highway in the whole US of A?
> Must be a stretch at least 50 miles long.

How would a real motorcyclist ever find out?

I don't ride em unless there's nothing else.
--
----
Mark E. Slagle                                 PO Box 61059
slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com                       Sunnyvale, CA   94088
408-756-0895                                   USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bryanw@synoptics.com (Bryan Whitton)
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Gear
Reply-To: bryanw@synoptics.com
Organization: Synoptics Inc. Santa Clara, California.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:39:08 GMT

A liter sport bike makes soooo much torque that any gear is great. 
1st -- unpredictable directional control, I love it.
2nd -- first inkling of real speed, incredible acceleration, I love it.
3rd -- well into illegal speeds, fantastic acceleration, I love it.
4th -- well over the dod legal min, great acceleration, wind noise is finally
	dissapating, I love it.
5th -- What can I say 155 mph at night, acceleration finally abating, I love it.

truely transmissions are wonderful things.

---
****		Faster Then a Speeding Ticket		****
Bryan Whitton	(408) 764-1324		bryanw@synoptics.com
1990 Katana 1100 46k and still going strong(very)
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Parental riding permission (Encouragement/Discouragement.)
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:57:25 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

One of my oldest memories is sitting in front of my old man on his
Vincent.  He'd putt me up and down the street in front of our house
and I would get to wear the goggles!!!  I thought that was way cool.

He belonged to a motorcycle club in London (UK) called the Bayswater
Scramblers.  Those guys could ride!  They loved to rat race on small
displacement bikes through alleys, yards, sidewalks, over fields and
hills, and on the streets,  essentially to see if they could out
balls each other.  I remember watching them riding ALONG the top of
a low brick wall in our back yard that my old man had ramped up to.
  
My dad later gave up riding as he settled down to domestic
tranquility :^)  but every time I said I wanted a bike, he said I
had to wait til I was old enough and he would teach me.   Well, it
seemed that that promise faded to the background as I persued other
interests.

When I was 14, my friend Mitch's old man would let us take his
Triumph Tiger Cub down to the local school yard and practice.  As we
improved our technique, he would pillion with us on short street rides
to teach us the rules of the road.

When I was 17, I got my first bike, a beat up old Panther, and my old
man was suprised, but not displeased. He helped me strip it and
explained all the internals. we rebuilt it together, and he taught
me how to handle a big bike.

It seem, looking back, that I was never discouraged from riding. Indeed,
it seemed to be a natural phase for me and all my mates to go through.
Maybe it is because in England, when I was younger, motorcycling was
considered a regular form of transportation and not so much a 'sport'.

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Let me take my chances on the wall  |
 | DoD# 541                           |  of death"       Richard Thompson    |
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:59:43 GMT
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

Some clarification:

I've received several responses to this posting from several newsgroups.
Almost all of the responses assume that my posting was an argument for
mandatory helmet usage. One respondent claimed to be an MSF instructor and
was extraordinarily (even for the net) offensive. (even accused me of 
being a Christian! Well I never....!!!)

If you find words that state that I support helmet laws, you should get
your vision checked. Or work on your reading comprehension.

The Cliff Notes version:

 a. People who ride without helmets are, in my opinion, being stupid.
    (Riding without gloves, jacket, boots, long pants are also degrees
     of stupid. Yes, Dave Williams, STUPID. I flamed you first. It took
     the rest of the net some time to find their lighters I guess.)
 b. Your crash, if severe, will inconvenience or traumatize some people
    who don't deserve it. Their opinions about bikes & bikers count in
    the ballot box. 
 c. Deer shit happens. And it mostly happens at dusk and at night.


There are times to NOT ride. Is this one?

No! Today is Ride To Work Day!!! :-))

Ron
From: brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "cute" dealer names (Was: Combined dealerships)
Summary: in New Jersey ...
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:54:39 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <1992Jul23.135830.26009@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
+ (So, how fast can we mutate a thread and subject line anyways?)
+ 
+ randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis) writes:
+ 
+ >  The "Fun Bike Center" here in San Diego sells Honda, Suzuki, Kawasaki, AND
+ 
+ How about dealer names? I like "Cycle Logical", and here in Utah there's
+ one called "Big Boy's Toys", sexist perhaps, but truth in advertizing. :-)
+ -- 
+ Blaine Gardner 

	My friend Eric Rawlins and I used to frequent a bike shop
	in New Jersey called "Berger's Cycles"; we desperately wanted
	to open a hamburger shop across the street and name it
	"Cycle's Burgers"    :-)

-- 
    66
     >
     ^ .................. brucer " President L. Abbot Fan Club " (DoD #0002)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Sometimes you get lucky
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:58:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.002343.16467@news.Hawaii.Edu> keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller) writes:
	[finds and abandoned FJ]
>	Holy shit! someone has abandoned a 1984 FJ100 with 10,000 miles on it!
>So I call the police and find out that it has not been reported stolen and h
>is not registered. A local salvage shop does mechanics leans for about $140,
>and according to everone I've talked to the previous owner just left it there.
>	So it looks like I'm going to own a FJ1100 for $140 and whatever it 
>takes to get it running. I have to make sure that it wasn't thrashed and left
>for dead, but even the cost of a rebuild is less than trying to buy one.


Oh!  Duh!  (slaps forehead)

That's where I left it.  Thanks for finding the bike, Tim.  Take
good care of it until I pick it up, and I'll make it worth your while.

:')

>	I have to bleed the brakes and clutch, change the oil, get a battery,
>check the compression, and try to start it.
>	For anyone who's read this far I will keep you posted as to the rebuild,
>and anyone with info on where to find parts as well as problems with that
>particular bike will be greatly appreciated.
>I still can't believe it!


Yes, there is a God in Heaven.

Congrats.  Enjoy.  Smile a lot.

And of course, once you get in running well, you can trade it on an R100GS-PD.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:35:07 GMT
Subject: Re: A few tech questions
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, 85p8379@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

> i)   I recently replaced the fork oil in my Kawa GPX250R (same bike as baby
> Ninja, but better looking !), and noticed that the quantity of oil to be
> placed in each strut (as specified in the manual) didn't bring the level up
> anywhere near to that specified in the same manual.  I thought the air gap

I've yet to service a motorcycle that uses the amount of oil specified in
the manual.  It seems that the actual amount is always more than that
called out.  Add oil until you reach the specified height with the springs
removed and the forks fully compressed.  You did have your forks
compressed, I hope?  

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
It's not how fast you get there, but how you get there fast.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Braking Secrets of the Pros Revealed
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:07:56 GMT

john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>Wednesday July 29 1992 00:22, Manish Vij wrote to All:

> MV> MSF teaches that you get maximum braking _without_ locking either wheel,
> MV> because the coefficient of sliding friction (tire against slab) is much
> MV> lower than the coefficient of sliding friction for brake pad against
> MV> rotor.

No, the difference here is sliding vs. rolling friction of the TIRE. 
Rolling friction is greater than sliding friction, so never want to
lock the rear tire, not only because it vastly increases your stopping
distance, but it makes a spill more likely because you lose some
directional control. The "keep the rear locked IF you lock it" doctrine
is an OOPS! recovery, not a suggestion for optimum braking.

>They also tell you that only years of successful racing teaches someone to
>perform full modulation braking. The CHP solution is for normal mortals.

Whoah! Hold on there a second. This "CHP solution" was a second hand
claim of what the CHP says, in a 20 year old book. This "lock the rear
brake to stop" is the same kind of bullshit that is on some state
driver's license tests. That someone got it in print does not make it
correct.

>For an average rider, who isn't trained by years of racing, the fastest
>stop is most likely a full locked rear tire (held locked until the moto
>comes to a complete stop) and as much front brake as can be grabbed.

If you're unsure of your braking ability, better to stay off the rear
completely so you avoid locking it. A common problem is that folks hear
the squeal of the locked rear, and let off both brakes. Cycle magazine
did an interesting braking test a few years ago. They tested rider
performance instead of bike performance. The staff racer had the
shortest distances of course. But the interesting thing is that the
newbies got their shortest distances by using the front alone. Of course
the only difference between a newbie and a seasoned pro is practice, and
that doesn't cost a dime.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ccullen@ops-2.Naitc.Com (Carolyn Cullen)
Subject: talk about inspiration... 
Organization: AC Nielsen Co., Bannockburn IL
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 13:52:40 GMT

While I was at lunch yesterday, I saw the coolest moto sight cruise by--
a red Honda with a side car specially made so the rider's wheel chair
fit in it, and had its own handlebars and controls. Nobody on the bike,
just the older gentleman controlling it via the side-car. Saw him again
this morning on the highway.  Now that's sure going to whatever lengths
necessary not to give up riding. Thought it was pretty cool. 

Carolyn

-- 
Carolyn Cullen	      |"I'm gonna hit the highway like a battering	
ccullen@nis.naitc.com | battering-ram on a silver black phantom bike"
DoD #0450 	A.C. Nielsen, Bannockburn, IL  | --Meatloaf
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: engine size for the highway (was re: Rant, etc)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:16:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.200222.240501@cs.cmu.edu> tp0x+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Price) writes:
>>>What do you all consider the minimum reasonable displacement for highway
>>>riding?
>I have gotten into a habit of taking weekend trips from Pittsburgh to 
>Washington DC, about 260 miles one way. I don't pay attention to how long 
>it takes me to reach the city limits, but my destination (for those of you 
>who know the city) is in the Adams Morgan section, a few blocks from Rock 
>Creek Park, and my best time door-to-door was 5:16.

i didn't mention the seca2 is a 6-speed as well, buzzy as "hell" around
4500 rpm (60 or so in sixth :-(  ).  so go faster.

btw: at the risk of aquiring squid points, my best -- from fort washington
(dc) to century iii mall (pgh) -- is 3:13.  in parts, i did plaid.  what
route are you taking ?!

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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|       "I love your post.  Please don't stop."   -- Lissa Shoun           |
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|       "I've been doing OK lately with a hand pump."   -- Chuck Karish    |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:40:38 -0400 
From: Christine Hogan <ch3c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: New Kid!

To find a helmet:

Go to the local dealers and try on helmets to find one that fits and
suits your fashion.Then check the mailorder for this helmet in the
magazines. THen, give the dealer a chance to match the mail order price,
if the dealer won't deal, buy mailorder. I have ordered from Competition
Accessories and Motorcycle warehouse and from Dennis Kirk. All three are
easy to deal with and have never given me a hard time about returns and
refuns.



|Chris Hogan                    |         1127                 |     
|ch3c+@andrew.cmu.edu           | Soft as the massacre of Suns |
|                               | By Evening's Sabres slain    |        
          
|CB-1                           |             emily dickinson  |
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: THANKS Ed
Date: 28 Jul 1992 21:06:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 14033@cbnewsj.cb.att.com, jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette) writes:
>I just wanted to one of the first of the RCRers to publicly thank Ed Green
>and his wife Sandy for all the work they put into the RCR.

Special thanks to Mark Cervi and Lou (Groh?) for helping cook and serve
dinner (Jim lit the fire with an official DoD Lighter!).  Thanks to
Dean Cookson for helping to get this going, and organizing the Yankee
crowd.  Honorable mention to Tim Wright for the DoD Hot Pepper Sauce
from Hell!  Another thank you to Martyn Wheeler for the ride home, and
for showing me the ropes at the Charlotte Race Track.

The RCR Greatest Distance award goes to...

the gentleman from Venezuela, touring the US on a bumblebee G/S, who
was camping by us and joined us for dinner and some interesting
motorcycling conversation!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Shipping/Traveling Cross-Country
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:07:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise) writes:
: I know shipping was discussed a while back, but at the time I never thought
: I'd do it.  Now I'm interested in a bike at the 'other end', and if anybody

I didn't get into this discussion last time it came up, but a news item on TV
reminded me of something.  Amtrak has a program where you drive your car to
the station and they load it onto the train.  You get off at the other end
with your car ready to drive away.  Maybe they will do this for motorcycles?
Hey, it's worth a phone call to find out.  Let us know.

Bill Ranck
DoD #496   (still no .sig in TIN,  sigh)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: Re: Confirmation of what we already knew
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:15:23 GMT

In <14782.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:


>-> From the report of the Victorian Social Development Committee
>-> on Motorcycle Safety *

> What the fuck do *they* know?


>-> "Surveys indicate that the Australian is:
>->
>->      - Indifferent to road safety issues

> Hey, I like that.

>->      - Unconcerned about motorcycles as a safety issue

> Even better!

>->      - Likely to label motorcycle riders as deviant; andd

Ummm. May be some truth in this...

> From the country which brought us "Mad Max" and "The Road Warrior?"
>I thought *all* Australians drove like that?

Only on open roads. In built up areas, we enjoy double parking, blind 
u-turns and taking up 2 lanes of traffic in our Kingswoods.

Oh - and running over Qantas bears.

>->      - Ignorant of the opinions of motorcycle riders

Ok. This seriously is true. Lights on is proof of that.

> Well, I don't care for deviants either.

>=======================================================================
>can you help me...help me get out of this place?...slow sedation...
>ain't my style, ain't my pace...giving me a number...NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT
>(Nazareth)               XJ900 TURBO at 15psi          DoD# 978  KotFAQ
>=======================================================================
>