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From: udcrusd@meaddata.com (Sylvia D'Cruz)
Subject: Re: More about India
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:12:53 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.indian

In article <1992Oct7.165117.14598@coe.montana.edu>, prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar) writes:
|> Yes there are street gangs(no guns though) which have a pleasure in doing such
They don't need guns. Their lathi's, chains, danda's, stones and bricks can 
accomplish whatever a gun can, only more slower and painful.

|> things. I am from Madras and I think this problem is comparitively less in my
|> city and I think it is more common particularly in Bombay and Delhi.[banning
|> the song Oye Oye etc.]

Maybe less in Madras. I don't know.

|> >And, during holi these eve teasers are really elated, they can target certain 
|> >locations and score a hit with their water balloons and colors.  I think we 
|> >need a law that restricts such activity, to your friends and invitee's in your 
|> >backyard or playground. This is one instance, where traditional customs need 
|> >modification, to suit changing needs.
|> 
|> True. But I maintain the % of guys doing this is minimal.

Not in Bombay. I think it more widely celebrated in Bombay and other northern
states, than in Madras. And, with that the increases.

|> >No, I come to work, get my job done and go home. I have never been apprehensive
|> >I was more worried going to work in India, never knowing, when there would be a
|> >strike, and lack of transport to get home, the flooding in Bombay, a yearly
|>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >episode, and yes being caught alone in the first class ladies compartment, in
|>  ^^^^^^^
|> >a train. 
|> 
|> All the highlighted parts don't come in the scope of our discussion and may I 
|> ask you why you included those.

More exposure to the elements, violence, insecurity and the male phenomenon,
which manifests itself at the time of crisis. I think, if you had lived in
Bombay, you would not think it irrelevant. During a strike, the looters come
out, the cab drivers take you for a ride during a flood, if you can find one,
and the women find themselves better targeted.

Remember "mood indigo" - IIT Bombay; Only, when Billa & Ranga were convicted
did they admit to raping women at these festivals. None of the women came 
forward. Why ? Can the Indian society handle it ? No they are not ready. The
guys who committted the crime revealed it. I think they did it at "Rendevous" 
- Delhi, too.  And, the only reason they were convicted, were due to the Chopra 
incidents, that shocked delhi. I think they were the children of some high 
ranking official.

Indian campuses are "safe". Go on believing in it.

|> So did you ever come up with an answer for "what you did for your country ?"

Plenty, in my own small way. 

|> Sincerely yours,
|> M.P.Premkumar

-- 
Sylvia D. D'Cruz
From: tolia@furnace.ecn.purdue.edu (Anish Arun Tolia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MORE ABOUT INDIA / INDIAN WOMEN ARE TREATED FAR BETTER THAN HERE.
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:28:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1ath1lINNif7@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu) writes:
>
>
>Indian women are treated in a manner far better than women here. Though 
>there are always the exceptions where eve-teasers,  and rapists etc, as
>well as the bride-burners exist.
>
>In India for example, and in cities like Bombay for example try teasing
>a woman and see what happens, you will get a sound thrashing from every
>one around.
>
>Here the situation is even more worse. People do'nt allow women to make
>a choice of abortion or not,  as if her health or wish is no concern of
>hers at all. Apart from that it's only in South Asia and in Israel that
>women have become leaders of their countries. Compare that to the state
>here, where people are averse to having a woman as a Vice-President too
>so much are they against women here.
>
>Regards,
>Vivek.
>
Do you think that eve teasers, rapists and bride burners are the EXCEPTION
while women prime ministers are the NORM? For every woman that makes it,
millions more are suffering in some way or another JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE
FEMALE in a male dominated society. Western society is male dominated too,
but to a lesser degree. And last I heard, abortion was still legal. Now
consider India, where abortion is legal and even ecouraged and subsidized by
the government. Is this good for womens rights? Of course not! Most
abortions performed in India are sex selective and has led to a severe
imbalance in the male/female ratio.

Anish
>-- 
>vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
>Systems Engineering Laboratory, Department Of Computer Science, 
>School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
>California State University, Chico, California.
From: udhi@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Udayan Subramanian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: TRANSIT VISA FOR LONDON
Date: 13 Oct 1992 09:23:04 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

msuvarna@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:

>HI NETTERS !!!

>Am planning to visit India (Bombay) in mid-december. I plan to take a
>two-day halt in London. I need some info' regarding transit visa, reqd.
>if any ? Do they give a visa on the airport itself (temporary..)?
>Also,is it true that the embassy in Bombay provides a tourist visa
>for about Rs.300-400 if age is below 25yrs. Is this true?

>If any of you has any info' on this please let me know. Also, let me know
>if I need to contact the embassy at Atlanta. If so what is their contact
>no.?

>Thanxx in advance.

>Manoj

Yes, you need to get a Entry Permit/Visa if u are planning to stay for 2 days in U.K. If your stay is going to be for less than 24 hours then u don't have to    get a Entry Permit and u can ask for a Transit Visa at the Airport itself. But  for this u need to have confirmed onward journey Air Tickets to prove that u will be  leaving U.K within 24 hours.

Regarding the Entry Permit one can get it from any British embassy and I got it from the Consulate General's office in Chicago. It costs about $38 for a single entry visa and $57 or so for a multiple entry. U can call them and leave a message for getting the application. If I remember right it takes about a week to 10 days to get ur visa.

I can post u the phone number of the consulate's office if u require it( I don'thave it right now with me).

---Udayan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kgj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Kiran G. Jain)
Subject: Looking for an Apartment in Fairfax, Virginia or nearby
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:25:06 GMT




Hi Netters,
	I am relocating from Philadelphia, PA to Fairfax, VA and I am looking
for an apartment near Fairfax.

	Please give me a mail if you know anybody in that area wanting to share
an apartment or who knows anyone in the area who could be of some help to 
me inregards to finding an apartment.

Thanks

--Kiran Jain
(215) 975 0347
From: U335D@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: REPUBLICAN INDIANS
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:49:48 GMT

THIS IS AN INTERESTING YEAR IN AMERICAN POLITICS.  NOT ONLY WILL THE PRESIDENCY
BE RESPONSIBLE IN CHARTING THE COURSE OF AMERICA'S FUTURE; ESPECIALLY AFTER THE
 END OF THE COLD WAR, BUT IT IS ALSO OF SIGNIFICANCE TO INDIA.  I'AM POSTING TH
IS INITIAL TOPIC TO INVITE COMMENTS ON THE EFFECTS OF A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENCY I
N THE 1990S (AFTER 1992) ON INDO-US RELATIONS AND THE SAME WITH RESPECT TO A
 DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENCY.  NOR AM I A REPUBLICAN OR A DEMOCRAT, I'AM JUST A
 POLITICALLY CONSCIOUS STUDENT WHO IS INTERESTED IN: WILL THE WORLDS TWO LARGES
T DEMOCRACYS WORK MORE COHERENTLY AS WE NEAR 2000 A.D.
From: nagendra@wizard.cs.psu.edu (Chetana Nagendra)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian Store in NY
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:28:07 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: /home/curly/nagendra/.organization

Hi,

Could someone please give me the telephone number of the 
Indian Store in New York that sells Electrical goods that
can be used in India ?

Thanks in advance.

- Chetana

Email : nagendra@cs.psu.edu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:33635 soc.culture.indian.telugu:519
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Looking 4: Satish K. Reddy (In Canada) (From Secunderabad)
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:24:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu


>		Mr. Flamer!!
>		The above module is not a C language and it is
>		written in Language "E". Please read that once again
>		see the conditions and U can take else part as you donno 
>		the guy I'm looking for.. Hope U can understand that atleast
>		now..

for a guy who writes e language programs on SCI, you are more than
serious. 


;-)


suresh
From: rahul@berlioz.nsc.com (Cool Man Dude Fool)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: ** For 1990 IT-BHU Graduates **
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:26:49 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation
Originator: rahul@melvin

***********************************************************************

This message is being posted for Uday Gupta - Please address all 
inquiries to the following internet address:

      rahul_jairath@sematech.org

***********************************************************************

Uday Gupta graduated from IT-BHU in 1990 and is interested in hooking 
up with any of his batchmates.  Direct all responses to the above
internet address.

Cheers,

Rahul

A
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.china
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: ...Internet in Asia ......
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:17:13 GMT

InterNet and Usenet are not the same thing.
Usenet can run over the InterNet, but also ordinary phone lines.
The minimum InterNet connection is a special digital phone line that runs seven times faster
than an ordinary phone line (56K baud vs. 9K).  Furthermore, many US sites have high capacity
lines up to 45,000K baud these days.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Help:  PR interview
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 10:00:00 -0500

To: shiang@inland.com
 > My wife is in B-1 visa status.   She is scheduled by
 > IRS for the
   ^^^^^
I am assuming you mean "INS"
 > green card interview in her own country because I am
 > in PR status.
     ^^^^^
I am assuming you mean "Permanent Residence."
 > My question is -

 > Would she be required to have the interview in her own
 > country if I were a
 > U.S.A. citizen?  Could she be interviewed in U.S.A.?
The answer is yes, she could be interviewed in U.S. if you were a citizen.  In
fact, if she has never been out of
status in the U.S. and she is in the U.S. on a B-1, she could still be
interviewed in the U.S. for adjustment of status.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Sardar Sarovar Project - An Overview - 6/7
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:04:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.134755.611@chewi.che.wisc.edu>, budaraju@chewi.che.wisc.edu writes:
>II.2.	Alternatives to Large Dams
>
>There are viable alternatives to large dams that have the 
>potential to meet each of the major goals of large dams, 
>namely, irrigation, power generation, and flood control.  The 
>most important alternative is to build multiple small dams, 
>and there are examples to show that this can be successful in 
>meeting all three of these goals, without the concomitant 
>costs of soil erosion, deforestation, desertification, and 
>displacement.  Other options include alternate energy sources 
>such as biogas and tidal power, energy conservation, minor 
>schemes such as ground-water usage for irrigation, and 
>afforestation for flood control. Below, we examine the case 
>for small dams, as well as some of the other alternatives, in 
>a little more detail.
>
Unfortunately the alternative approach is less successful in meeting
the principle goal of putting money in the pocket of the top bosses.
Arindam
From: sr072@mesrx.com (Santanu Ray)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Sending money to India ...
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:51:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Measurex Corporation    "The Results Company"

Hi,

I'm new to this net and as such not aware if (rather when) this query
has been posted before (I'm sure it has, sometime or the other) - so
don't flame me for being repitative ! 

I would like to send some money to India (specifically Calcutta) and
am looking for persons/organizations through which this can be done
expeditiously (the last time sent money through a bank draft, it took
3-1/2 months to clear). 

Please send me the contact addresses/phone nos (preferably in the west
coast) @
		ray_s@measurex.com
	or,	sr072@stest.measurex.com

Thanx in advance.

Santanu Ray.
From: amjad@qureshi.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Testing Please ignore..........
Keywords: Ignore
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:18:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Workstations and Systems. IBM, Austin


 This is ONLY a test please ignore it......


 Amjad Qureshi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aditya@iedv7.acd.com ( Aditya Khatuka (ICTT) )
Subject: Green Card/DOB query
Keywords: Green Card, INS
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:44:03 GMT

Hello,

I understand that when one goes for Green Card Interview, a date of birth
certificate is required among other supporting documents. As the municipal 
offices in India which issue these say that it is not possible to issue one 
after such a long time, so what are the other options does one have ??

Comments from people with actual experience would be highly appreciated.
(Please also indicate your date and place of interview)

thanks

Aditya

bskhatu@indsvax1.indstate.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culutre.pakistan
From: ali@sim1server.mentorg.com (Ali Haveliwala)
Subject: Ref: rec.arts.poems.urdu
Originator: ali@simserver1
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 16:50:01 GMT
Organization: MGC, Oregon
Keywords: 


There has been very few on the net who have reservations to the creation
of rec.arts.poems.urdu on the basis that it represents a cultural group
and not really a group for the artistic appreciation of poetry.

Let me put this straight. This group is intended for one and all to enjoy
and artistically appreciate the depth, form and rhythm of urdu poetry. 
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
It is not limited to people from any one culture per se. I for example 
do not speak Urdu as my mother tongue. I developed an interest solely 
for the beauty of the language. So, I disagree with all who are trying 
to make this a cultural thing. Yes, you could claim that this group would 
be meaningful to all those who have an inkling for the language. 
Certainly true, but it is not limited to your cultural background. Remember,
the interest in urdu poetry and ghazals spans across cultural and religious
boundaries.

I am very open to suggestions on whether the net thinks in the majority
that renaming the group is the way to go. If there is no sufficient response
from the net regarding a change in name or charter, it implies to me
from the feedback I have received that the net does not believe so. 

Once again, please post the net of any suggestions that you folks may have.
There is nothing better than a good discussion on this topic. So c'mon
guys we have a few days left, for one and all to air their suggestions.
Please note that Usenet guidelines suggest that the discussion take place
in "news.groups".
From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Another letter from Vancouver
Date: 17 Oct 1992 02:44:57 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Originator: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca

		Another letter from Vancouver

  Sundar Prasad is not the only Vancouverite who got a laugh from
Parthasarathy's posting.
  Having lived in Silicon Valley for a while before moving here, I was
particularly puzzled by his comment about "local people not respecting
desis" and "desis not talking to you". I do not see any major difference
between Silicon Valley and Vancouver in terms of local/desi or
desi/desi interaction. Perhaps familiarity breeds contempt?
  Anyway, you can write whatever you want about Monterrey or other
god-forsaken places in Mexico. But if you write anything bad about
Canadian cities (especially Vancouver) there are plenty of us
resident desis ready to pounce on you :-)
  However, the US consulate here is not really a good place to deal with
because of its practice of issuing visa appointments only on Fridays.This
is said to be because of an acute staff shortage. Its
particularly bad in summer when you have to queue up the previous evening.
In December it wasn't so bad as you could reach by 8 am and still get
an appointment. If time is so precious you might think of going to some
other consulate in Canada.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sonali@itchy.cs.wisc.edu (Sonali Talwalkar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Pt. Datar violin concert in Milwaukee
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:16:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Oct12.211639.20524
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.


			
			
			
			INDIA MUSIC SOCIETY 
				of
			     Milwaukee 


			     presents   	


       		         a violin concert  
				by


			  PT. D. K. DATAR   


		       accompanied on tabla 
				by


		             Vijay Ghate  

           	***************************************** 
	

		Date:	Friday, October 16, 1992 
		Time:	8 pm  	
		Venue:	Fine Arts Recital Hall
			2200 E.Kenwood Blvd
			UW-Milwaukee 

      		Tickets:	Non-Members     $15 
				Members		$12 
				Students	$6
				Senior Citizens	$6 


		For further information please contact:
		Suneethi Joshi (414)784-7796 
		Saroj Kulkarni (414)351-5619   

           	*****************************************   

Pandit Datar is one of the foremost violinists of Hindustani Classical music. 
He is well known for his expositions of ragas in the "gayaki" (or singing) 
style with great depth, tonal grace and rhythmic elegance.
From: ram@artecon.sceard.com (Ramesh S. Rao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: VISA number availability
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:14:14 GMT
Organization: Artecon, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA


Is anyone out there with the GC interview over, but waiting
for a visa number to be made available? If so, please email me.

ps cops:
	no, we dont get alt.us.visas. YET!
From: akash@brahms.udel.edu (Akash Sharma)
Subject: Re: sher-o-shayari
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:26:19 GMT

	Ek sher aapki khidmat me haazir hai:

        Doston ki mehfil hai             
        Par gam phir bhi mein jhela hoon
        Kya kahoon kaise kahoon
        Mein kis kadar akayla hoon.

"Akayla"
akash@ravel.udel.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: lokes@selway.umt.edu (Lokeswara Rao)
Subject: Meenan Vishnu's comments
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:39:07 GMT



I think budhism came into prominence in india because of the blemishes
which have crept into the hindu practices at that time ( animal
slaughter for gods, severe caste discrimination etc.) 

Hinduism came back into popularity (900 AD - 1300 AD) because of
two reasons :-

 - the emergence of bhakti movement in areas where hinduism is still
   strong and it spread all over india

 - the birth of Adi Sankara. In his short life he had rejuvenated 
   hinduism into the mainstream of indian life. He had established
   centres all over india to propagate hinduism. His legacy is
   still evident today where u can see keralite brahmins in the
   Badrinath temple etc.

This are my opinions only, for u to ponder.


Regards.

Lokes.
From: msuvarna@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: AGENT INFO' NEEDED....!!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:20:38 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University


HI NETTERS.....

I AM PLANNING TO BUY A ROUNDTRIP TICKET FROM MEMPHIS-LONDON-BOMBAY

FOR DECEMBER ON AN AMERICAN AIRLINES-AIR INDIA COMBO FROM A TRAVEL

AGENT "GRECIAN TRAVELS INC." BASED IN NEW YORK. IF ANY OF YOU OUT

THERE HAVE HAD ANY EXPERIENCE WITH THIS AGENCY GOOD/BAD PLEASE

LET ME KNOW. I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR PROMPT RESPONSE.

THANX IN ADVANCE.

MY E-MAIL ADDRESS IS - msuvarna@memstvx1.bitnet
phone # (901)-327-TO FOR ONE THREE

(mind, the # four on my key-pad isn't functioning)

MANOJ SUVARNA

STAY COOL....HAVE FUN...LIFE IS SHORT....PLAY SOFT !!!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sgs1679@usl.edu (Sudhindranath Sira G)
Subject: Re: WITHER PATRIOTISM ?
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:44:06 GMT

Hi,

This is regarding the discussion that is going on about
whether Indians should settle in India or elsewhere etc. etc.
Ideas have been exchanged about why one feels this way or
that way on the issue. 

I would like to add just this :

OUR SURVIVAL ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD IS INEXTRICABLY INTERTWINED 
WITH THE SURVIVAL OF INDIA ITSELF. 

May I request those of us who think that they have "escaped" 
from India and can now "live happily ever after" to please
bear this in mind along with their thoughts of two-garage
luxury homes, cars, washing machines etc. etc. ?

Thanks.

Regards,

--Sudhi.

--
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath.   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
email : sudhi@usl.edu, sgs@ucs.usl.edu    Address : USL PO Box 41688,
                          	                    Lafayette, LA 70504-1688.
	                                            USA.


-- 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>   Sira Gopinath Sudhindranath.   <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
email : sudhi@usl.edu, sgs@ucs.usl.edu    Address : USL PO Box 41688,
                          	                    Lafayette, LA 70504-1688.
	                                            USA.
From: lal@cs.arizona.edu (The Morning Sun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: SOME DOKI JOKES
Keywords: Doki Nimmala jokes
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:12:49 GMT

In response to numerous requests for more Doki jokes, including a request from Nimmala, this follows. Publication rights for my book A Doki Jokebook is being negotiated with several publishers.
	Anyway, here follows the original, and some more jokes.

	What is worse than a Doki in a blender?
	A Doki on the net.

	How many Dokis does it take to change a light bulb?
	It's not possible. They're all posting or reading SCI.

	What is worse than a Doki on the net?
	A Nimmala on the net.

	What do you get when you cross Doki and Nimmala?
	|Doki||Nimmala|Sin(Theta)

        What did the Nimmala say to the Doki?
	I want your respect.

A. Lal

P.S. No offense intended
P.P.S. The opinions expressed in this article are not neccasirily mine (or yours).

	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vilok@bmerh322.bnr.ca (Vilok Kusumakar)
Subject: Looking for job in India.....
Reply-To: vilok@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:31:43 GMT

There used to be a list of Indian companies around. Can somebody
tell me where I can get it from ?

What are the prospects of getting a job in telecommunications industry
in India ? I have 3 year experience in protocols. What are approximate
pay scales ? etc. etc. 

---------------
Vilok Kusumakar                    OSI Protocols for tomorrow......
vilok@bnr.ca                       Bell-Northern Research, Ltd.
Phone: (613) 763-2273              P.O. Box 3511, Station C 
Fax:   (613) 765-4777              Ottawa, Ontario, K1Y 4H7