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From: dwest@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dan West)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: New Galmer at Nazareth.  Why?
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:05:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Oct6.180504.6927
Organization: The Ohio State University

>
>On a related note, how good is the Truesports chassis ? Rahal seemed
>to think it worth risking next years title hopes (he has to be the
>favorite with Andretti gone) on. I have not been keeping tabs on Pruett
>so I can't comment. I just hope he isn't trying to relive the glory
>days with Jim Trueman through this move. (It will still be the sharpest
>looking car with that Miller Genuine Draft paint job on it :-)


Bobby has tested the car at Mid-Ohio and was very impressed. I can't
see him making a blind move. I sure he knows what is at stake.


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From: tvp53202@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Toby Vaughn Padfield)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Mansell left because of Prost?
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:40:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvCp3p.9GM
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

<A735FJO@HASARA11.BITNET> writes:

>Well, as I've said twice before (last week and a month ago),
>I still think that it is because of Prost, that Mansell left
>Williams.  I'm sure that Prost has claimed to be the first
>Williams driver, and Mansell did not want to be second.
> 
>This explains Mansell nodding his head off, when Senna was angry
>at Prost in the post race interview in Portugal.
>(Senna said: Prost only wants to run the 100 meters sprint when
>he is on running shoes and all others are on lead shoes.)
> 
>Frans (a735fjo@hasara11.bitnet)

	Senna is an unbelievable hypocrite!!!!!!!! He has said that if he
doesn't have a chance to win, he won't drive next year. He has a right to
refuse to drive what he believes will be an inferior car (in the '93 McLaren
MP4/8), but to cry about Prost and his supposed no-Senna clause is outrageous!
All of this from the man who vetoed Warwick from Lotus!!!!!!!! I have practi-
cally no respect for him anymore, or Mansell for that matter! But, then again,
what will my opinion mean in a week??? Oh, well, I'd pay to drive the AMF!!!!!


All of that may have exceeded my $0.02,
TOBY...
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Subject: Re: Dover Eyewitness Wanted (NASCAR)
From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:59:56 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Craig Witkowski) writes:

>"I think that I shall never see,
>A driver as great as Number 3!"

Oh?  The man with 3 LAST place finishes so far this year?   The guy with a
real good chance of not finishing in the top-ten in points?

Yeah, yeah, 5 championships...but the King has seven...and 4 times as many
wins...

 -Steve (A Bill Fan and a Bud Man) ;-)
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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: F1: Estoril GP qualifying times wanted
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:01:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd2.1992Oct1.220142.7811
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


If anybody out there has the final qualifying times for last Sunday's
Portuguese F1 Grand Prix, would you please either mail them to me at
winalski@tle.enet.dec.com, or post them to the newsgroup?  Thanks in advance.

--PSW
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From: ciufo@cc.uow.edu.au (philip ciufo)
Subject: Lap Timing
Summary: How lap timers work
Keywords: timing
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 00:26:37 GMT

I have been wondering how the lap timing systems work for the
various racing car groups. I have been talking to someone who
is involved in cart racing and he says they are looking at buying
a system from Holland that can distiguish distances down to 25mm
(1 inch) between cars crossing the start/finish line. All that
is required by the drivers is a battery powered wrist carried
device.
How can this work ? Any ideas ?

Philip Ciufo
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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Lake Erie SCCA Region?
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:24:57 GMT

Anybody out there from the Lake Erie Region SCCA?
If so, please contact me email.  Got a question
regarding a reported incident between a driver and
a course worker during the Mid-Ohio weekend.

-cball-

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From: ajd@DIALix.oz.au (Anthony Doig)
Subject: Re: SOMEONE PLEASE CLARIFY SENNA/PROST/WILLIAMS etc CONFUSION
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:55:17 GMT
Keywords: FORMULA ONE - Confusion on F1 Rumors

In <1992Sep30.072419.4712@cs.su.oz.au> pod@cs.su.oz.au (Paul O'Donnell) writes:

[ ... stuf deleted ... ]
>I also
>don't understand him offering Renault engines in exchange for Senna - he
>can't hold Senna in that high regard; what's Senna going to do, pedal the
>damn car? - that must be some kind of smokescreen.  

Aparently the deal would have been that Williams would have arranged for
Mclaren to get Renault engines as well as Williams.  Prost would be
included in the deal, with Williams ending up with Senna.

>Paul

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From: adams@spss.com (Steve Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Dover Eyewitness Wanted (NASCAR)
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:34:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: spssig.adams.718040050
Organization: SPSS Inc.

CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Craig Witkowski) writes:

>adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>>CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Craig Witkowski) writes:
>
>>>"I think that I shall never see,
>>>A driver as great as Number 3!"
>>
>>Oh?  The man with 3 LAST place finishes so far this year?   The guy witha
>>real good chance of not finishing in the top-ten in points?
>
>>Yeah, yeah, 5 championships...but the King has seven...and 4 times as many
>>wins...
>
>> -Steve (A Bill Fan and a Bud Man) ;-)
>>--
>
>Remember when Bill couldn't buy a victory last year until July in Daytona
>or until he dumped his family and signed with Junior?
Yeah...there were a couple of REAL lean years over at Melling...

>Each driver has good and bad years.  Bill tore up the tracks in '85 but ended
>second to another Bowtie Man at the Waldorf that year! (Go DW! ;-) )
Yeah, how the $*(#&(*# do you win 11 races and not win the championship?
;-)

As for DW, tell that boy to take some downers!

 -Steve
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From: david@cerberus.bhpese.oz.au (David Masters)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Bathurst Stoppage
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:12:44 GMT
Organization: BHP, Newcastle, Australia

rsv@gdwb.oz.au (Roger Virgo) writes:
>The Bathurst 1000 should not have been stopped,

>- Race conditions were no worse than they had been previously

>- The track was not blocked

>- No ones life was in any greater danger given the wet conditions

>- Accidents were happening relativly slowly

>I think stopping the race was a knee jerk recaction to the pictures being shown
>on TV. The pace car should have been used and the race finished.

Particularly since the precedent had been set earlier in the race
with the bad weather. They were getting weather information from
Orange (the nearest upwind town), and that should have been all
the warning they needed that they should be ready for hail.

>You have to feel sorry for Dick and John, but rules are rules. It would be
>interesting to know how close to the start/finish the 17 car was when the race
>was stopped.

Seconded.
The most annoying part to me is that Tim Scheneken(sp?) and the
Clerk of the course are both very experienced, and I find it
surprising that they would make such a mistake. 

I suspect that Channel 7 may have had a hand in it. The race was
about to go seriously over time, and they have no other provision
to stop the race. Very convenient.

Channel 7 has a significant investment in the staging of the
race. They are not merely the televising station.

Has anybody seen what actually seen what caused Jim Richards to
get the Kmart Wheel alignment before he had the big loose. The TV
didn't show it from what I can see.

>Thats motor racing,

>Roger and out.

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From: svissa@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Sirish Vissa)
Subject: Re: F1 Portugal: Patrese incident
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:40:22 GMT

Hi all, 
   I seem to recall Hobbs and Varsha saying something about Senna pitting, 
but they later said that it was Berger who pitted. I guess he stopped in his
pits, I dunno if there was any service done on the car or not.
  I just reviewed the tape, and Berger DID stop.  the mechanics were ready 
for him.  
         ciao
        Sirish
Hopefully I am not the only one to think so.

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From: agwiii@fang.att.com (Grayson Walker (660-7949)(12/92))
Subject: Re: Porsche @ Indy, carbon fiber
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:57:27 GMT

>> We've come a long way from the leather helmets worn by Caracciola and
>> Nuvolari.
>
>Linen helmets were preferred in the thirties.  Check photos of Nivola,
>Caracciola, Lang, etc.
>
>Chris Prael

Recheck Caracciola's autobiography, A Racing Car Driver's World.



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From: jack@scubed.com (Jack McWilliams)
Subject: Re: When's IMSA GTP @Del Mar (SanDiego) this year?
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Labs; San Diego CA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:45:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.004854.15071@leland.Stanford.EDU> hodges@Breakaway.Stanford.EDU (Jeff Hodges) writes:
>[either noone responded, or it got lost in the recent flood of msgs about Mansel & Michael, so here goes again...]
>
>I've seen the IMSA GTP @Del Mar dates expressed as either weekend of 10-Oct or 17-Oct. Which is correct?
>
>THANKS,
>
>Jeff
>hodges@Breakaway.Stanford.EDU
>
>ps: a direct email response copy would be way cool
>

DEL MAR RACE WEEKEND IS OCT. 9, 10, 11, 1992.........
From: William.A.Hall.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (William A. Hall Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Martinsville results
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:38:48 GMT
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Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

BODINE EDGES WALLACE

Geoff Bodine won today's race at Martinsville, pulling off a narrow
victory over Rusty Wallace. Brett Bodine nudged Kyle Petty out for
third. Bill Elliott fell out early in the running due to a blown engine
(he ended up 30th), and it seemed Davey Allison would take a huge chunk
out of Elliott's lead, as Davey managed to run up as high as 2nd.
However, Davey missed a golden opportunity as his brakes failed down
the stretch. He ended up 16th, cutting Elliott's lead by 42 points.
Elliott now leads Allison by 112, with Kulwicki passing Gant for third
in points.

Maybe Bill would have been better to heed Junior's advice from earlier
in the week -- "concentrate on finishing first, then winning."
Elliott's streak of 39 straight finishes-while-running was snapped this
afternoon.

Next week: North Wilkesboro, on at 12 Noon Sunday on ESPN.

Regards,
Bill Hall
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From: taylor@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Ross Taylor,Peyt312,6652,2655436)
Subject: Re: F1 Portugal: Patrese incident
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:47:09 GMT

From article <thos.717802698@suite.sw.oz.au>, by thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen):
> In <MARTIN.92Sep29154117@kilo.inferenzsysteme.informatik.th-darmstadt.de> martin@inferenzsysteme.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Martin Protzen) writes:
> 
> I don't think this is likely. We have seen McLaren change tyres in less
> than 6 seconds this year. So Berger could have been on the track about
> 15 odd seconds after entering the pits. I don't think Patrese would 
> have been out of his car in that time. So just because Berger was on
> the track before Patrese doesn't mean it was a fake stop.
> 

> thos cohen  				       |Softway Pty Ltd

Others have also written that Berger stopped.  I would wonder how
the McLaren crew could concentrate on changing tires while Air Williams
was inaugurating its new flights down the straight not too far from
where they must have been.

Ross Taylor
From: Alan.Crowder@prg.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: F1 Stuff
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:57:32 GMT
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.3


Hi Racers

You may well know but Prosty went faster than anyone before at Estoril
yesterday. 1m 16.28 secs.

And Derek Warwick is testing a Footwork there to-day as well.

No news at Williams yet but apparantly a announcement is imminent (sp)
I'll beleive that when i hear it.

Al
From: marti@nugget.inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1 Stuff
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:33:52 GMT
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH

In article <UEMURA.92Oct2192352@ashura.isl.melco.co.jp>, uemura@isl.melco.co.jp
(Joe Uemura) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct2.083606.25815@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>
|> marti@nugget.inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti) writes:
|>  |On October 1, Williams test driver Damon Hill clocked 1:14:19 to top
|>  |the list, while Prost was 2nd best at 1:14:83.
|> But wasn't Mansell's pp time during qualifying around 1:13:1? If I recall
|> correctly, Patrese also clocked in the 1:13 bracket so both Prost's and Damon's
|> times do not seem that spectacular to me. Of course, course conditions
|> do affect times....

I believe these times were achieved with the narrower tires (1993 regs).
Also, I find it interesting that Hill was more than 0.5s faster than
Prost.


|> Just a curiosity, how fast do you think Senna would go on a Williams
|> at Estoril? Wouldn't be great if they just give him a test run so
|> people could get an idea of what he'd be like on a Williams? 

Yes, this would be very interesting.

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From: james@Bridge.COM (James Montebello)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Estoril Gossip- WARNING!! posible spoilers ahead.
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:34:37 GMT
Organization: Bridge Information Systems

In article <122490034@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> bruno@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bruno Melli) writes:
>>      And how about that Patrese accident,10 years ago a similar accident
>> claimed the life of maybe the fastest driver of all time,Gilles
>> Villenueve[...]

>I've never seen Villeneuve's accident, but in Patrese case he lucked out
>because the car didn't land upside down. The outcome might have been
>different had the wheel not touched and made the car go back down...

Villeneuve didn't land upside down, either. He "augered in" nose
straight into the soft ground beside the track. The car snapped in
half. It was a freakish accident that wasn't likely to be repeated.
Nevertheless, it was repeated later that same season at Hockenheim, and
claimed the career of Villeneuve's teammate Didier Pironi. 

Other than the fact that all three touched wheels with another car and
flew into the air, I don't see much to compare the earlier crashes with
Patrese's.
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From: trubik@triton.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo)
Subject: Re: The Menstrual Cycle and Andretti Bashing
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 22:23:29 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <Bv8pH0.D78@umassd.edu> rgolen@UMASSD.EDU writes:
>In article <#40n3bb@lynx.unm.edu>, trubik@triton.unm.edu (S. M. Trujillo) writes:
>>TKPOWELL@bluemoon.profs.tek.com writes:
>>
>>> . . . . . . . . . . . Like clock work, its 'Bash an Andretti'
>>>time about once a month.  Of course 'Mr Pizza face' has quieted
>>>most of the bashers with his aggressive, masterful drives plus
>>>his move to F1. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
>>>
>>>--Terry
>>
>>At least we keep the Andretti bashes to matters of driving and
>>generally avoid dermatological issues.
>>
>Ok, if we can't bash the male Andrettis and their dermatological
>issuses....howabout Sandy Andretti and her K-Mart Fashions and
>her solid gold sunglasses....   :-)
>

I can totally support _that_ :-)


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From: kevin@iisat.alt.ns.ca (Kevin Davies)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: ESPN vs. CBC (was: Patrese - active suspension failure)
Date: 26 Sep 92 20:18:27 GMT
Organization: Public Access UNIX

In article <3061@voodoo.UUCP> garye@voodoo.boeing.com (Gary Eng) writes:
>can compare the Bob & David show to the Murray & James show. While the
>Canadian show is on a late-night, same-day delay, I think it is a better
>program. Let me rephrase that, I like it more than ESPN even though I wake
>up at 04:50 AM Pacific time to watch the ESPN broadcast live.
>Reasons I prefer the Canadian show:
>3. Whenever ESPN cuts to commercial, it always seems to at the time an
>   important pass or pit stop is about to take place. Sometimes, ESPN will
>   show what was missed by using instant replay. Other times, they skip it.
>   a. While CBC has commercials, it has the race on tape, so when they 
>      return from the commercial break, they appear to restart the tape
>      from the point of interruption. 

	Actually, the CBC will 'cut' pieces out, when they insert
	commercials.  You may lose anywhere from 0-6 laps at a time.
	They have to squeze the normal 2 hours (or less) into 90 min.
	with commercial breaks.

>   b. So no on-track action is lost.

	This is true. Eventhough they cut out laps, they choose the
	laps that don't have any 'events' occurring (ie., no outs
	or passes etc.)

>4. CBC shows the post-race driver interviews. Often as entertaining as the
>   on-track action.

	Yes, this is quite something.  I think they only started
	that this year.

>Preferences for broadcaster's personalities, presentations, professionalism,
>etc, is another subject!

	Agreed.  The CBC televised one race using the ESPN feed...
	the words 'unimpressed' came to mind and hoped that they
	hadn't switched from the BBC feed (Murray & James) to
	the ESPN version.  To my relief, M&J returned the following
	week.

	I may not always agree with James, but between them both,
	they provide some audio action (humour) during racing lulls,
	as well as information which is interesting/technical, since
	James was himself an F-1 champion (Murray was too but
	not in F-1, ... don't know in what)

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From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Desmo Debut Delayed
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:20:51 GMT
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies

In article <BvCEIv.H46@fang.att.com> agwiii@fang.att.com (Grayson Walker (660-7949)(12/92)) writes:
>By the 1920's 4-valve was considered obsolete. The state of the are in
>the 1920's was probably Jano's 6C-1750 and 8C-2300. These had the head and
>crankcase as one unit -- to deal with the day's sealing problems. You 
>can't blow a head gasket that does not exist. These were supercharged
>2-valve designs.

a minor nit:  the single-unit motors were late in the evolution
of Jano's racing motors; the 8C2300 still had a separate head
and block.  Jano did in fact have a lot of head gasket problems
with his earlier motors for Alfa.

richard
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From: wolf@pioneer.unm.edu (Mark Giaquinto)
Subject: Re: Porsche and Indy Cars...
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 03:48:44 GMT
Organization: Space and Planetary Image Facility

In article winders@aux.support.apple.com (Scott Winders) writes:
>I am trying get information on what years Porsche raced Indy cars
>an who drove for them.  Actually, I am looking for Porsche powered
>Indy cars.  I know that Porsche did not use their on chassis in their
>last attempt...
>
>Scott Winders
>winders@aux.support.apple.com
>
I don't remember what years they ran, but the drivers were Teo Fabi and John
Andretti.  It was originally slated to be Mario, but when he saw the problems
they were having, he went back to Newman-Hass.

Mark
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From: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk (Leo Smith)
Subject: Re: F1 Portugal: Patrese incident
Reply-To: shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:33:31 +0000

Come on guys. No one - not even Bergres girlfriend - will ever know
what was in his mind when he slowed down for the pits.

And Berger will never admit that he did it as a prank, even if it
was.


But you can bet your life that Berger regrets the incident. Thats the
difference between him and his his more succesful team mate...
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From: marbm-b@ascii.co.jp (Marcos Bachir Mubaied)
Subject: Jay C. Smith (Nazareth results?)
Organization: ASCII Corp. Tokyo, Japan
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:32:56 GMT

	Someone could post the Indy Car (Nazareth) results?
	I suppose the ideal would be the Jay's results and comments:-).
	Thanks in advance.
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From: afinlayson@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Denney Hulme
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:06:58 GMT
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada

In article <5375@gold.gvg.tek.com>, jimd@pequod.gvg.tek.com (Jim Delwiche) writes:
> Another sad day in motor racing:
> 
> I heard on BBC World Service that Denney Hulme died in a racing
> accident during the Bathurst 1000.  The news was that he may have
> suffered a massive heart attack.
> 
> He'll be missed.  I have vivid memories of Hulme and McLaren storming
> around Laguna Seca in those orange McLarens back in the Grp 7 days...
> 
> Jim

Sad only for us...the way I reckon these things.  Given that we all
die, sooner or later, I figure that the Bear won the biggest race of
all.  Excelsior!

Respectfully submitted,
Chris Finlayson
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