Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: Nadja's Reprehensible Attitude Towards Men
From: rivero@mdcbbs.com (Michael Rivero)
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:03:08 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: M&E (Division of EDS), Cypress CA

In article <1992Nov6.041844.13267@zooid.guild.org>, Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
|> nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf) writes in alt.abortion.inequity...
|> 
|> NA> On the other hand, if men weren't financially responsible for their
|> NA> children legally, then it might be held that they had no right to them at
|> NA> all.
|> 
|> Oh, so you THAT'S what you think?  Men should only be sperm donors, AND wallets,
|> and then you can throw them away like a used condom, eh?
|> 
|> 
|> NA> In some cases, this might be a boon to the children.
|> 
|> Yes, and what cases might THOSE be?  Abuse?  If so, then be aware that enough
|> studies have shown mothers to be more likely of child abuse than fathers.
|> 
|> Can you give examples other than abuse, then?
|> 
|> 
|> NA> There is nothing
|> NA> more pathetic and black - humorish than some bozo showing up years after
|> NA> he walked out and stopped being involved physically, mentally, or financiall
|> NA> in his children's lives and attempting to take some credit for how well
|> NA> they turned out. In fact, when a friend of mine's father showed up when he
|> NA> received his graduate degree in chemistry, he responded by changing his
|> NA> surname to his mother's maiden name. She raised him, she loved him, and
|> NA> she supported him. Not the man who was no more to him than an anonymous
|> NA> sperm donor after vanishing when he was a toddler.


  Perhaps Nadja would care to comment on the extremely high rates of
Juvinile delinquency which occurs in fatherless families. It seems that, unless
one views stealing cars and dealing drugs as the new feminist social ideal, 
the father's influence on the family does extend beyond sperm and wallet.

  Perhaps Nadja would also comment on the fact that women abandon their 
families just as often as do men. Perhaps Nadja would care to comment 
on the fact that most children under 17 who are murdered by a parent
are murdered by the mother. Perhaps Nadja would care to comment on
the fact that mothers physically abuse their children twice as often as men.
Perhaps Nadja would care to comment on the fact that 80% of all sexual
abuse charges in child custody are outright fabrications. Perhaps
Nadja would care to comment on what effect coerced testimony has on the
involved children. Or is that long term effect not important? After
all, what's one more misrepresentation about "Daddy" going to hurt?
What's one more lie in a decade of lies about fathers and men in general?






  Well, Nadja?







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