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From: wall@spdc.ti.com (Raj Wall)
Subject: Re: Bursitis in right shoulder
Organization: TI's Risible Technology Branch, Dallas
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:20:48 GMT

Max Heffler writes:
>I have developed Bursitis in my right shoulder after these six years of
>regular exercise.  I noticed it a few weeks ago and it hasn't gone away.
>My chiropractor has recommended ice after working out, which he says
>is causing the infallmation.  Have any of you had a similar condition
>and did it ever go away?  Was surgery needed?  Thanx...

I have had bursitis in my right shoulder off and on caused by trauma
from being hit be a car.  Some advice from experience (your mileage
may vary):

 o When pain is bad, Ibuprofen works best.
 o Surgery won't help -- you'll just get more damage cutting thru muscle.
 o Don't raise the arm (say, during delt work) past shoulder level
(shoulder work that starts out above shoulder level is ok -- it's
crossing that threshold where the bursa seem to get irritated).
 o Don't toss the football or play catch with your kids without
"warming up" first.
 o Don't over-stretch your shoulder (anytime), such as "both arms
overhead pulling arm to opposite side".
 o A couple "warm up" exercises that work for me: (1) holding your
elbow tight at your side, reach over with a small (5lb) weight to your
left waist like you were pulling out a six-gun.  Keeping your elbow
tight, slowly rotate your arm to a position like you are thumbing for
a ride.  (b) with a small weight (5lb) elbow at shoulder level
directly in front of you forearm vertical, slowly rotate forearm down
to shoulder level and back up.  Rotation axis is the upper arm kept
steady and horizontal.
 o Even with warm up it is possible to mess up and cause damage.  When
in doubt (or in pain) *don't* *push* *it*.  You can't "work out (or
thru)" this pain.  It just gets worse.

Regards,
Raj
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness,ba.food
From: mfabrega@raynet.com
Subject: coffee grnds, aluminum pots unhealthy??
Originator: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Raynet
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 23:21:58 GMT

In article <BtnMB4.M3p@nntp-sc.Intel.COM> pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey) writes:
>In article <z9anfdp.strnlght@netcom.com> 
>strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
><I understand stomach cancer started to decline dramatically when
><filter paper coffee makers (Melitta and Mr. Coffee types) became
><common in the U.S. I'm also told some physicians will allow their
><ulcer patients paper-filtered coffee (which removes even the fine
><sediments) but no other kind.
><On that basis the use of the French Plunger Pot, and the cold
><extraction pot mentioned earlier are probably both very bad ideas.
>
>Hmm, I don't know, seems highly speculative. Do you work for a filter paper
>company? Do you use bleached or unbleached paper? If anything, the health 
>trend is to less filtering and more roughage in the diet. Besides, I can't 

Does anyone have any REAL evidence on this?  I make espresso at home and
there are always coffee grounds at the bottom of my cup which I don't drink
but obviously, there are some particles suspended that I do drink.

Another question: my espresso maker is made of aluminum, which is possibly
risky, since aluminum has been linked w/ Alzheimer's.  Any data on this?

Thanks in advance.
mfabrega@raynet.com

Newsgroups: misc.fitness,rec.running,sci.med
From: rbanksjr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Richard E. Banks Jr.)
Subject: Pain in Lung
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 15:48:42 GMT


I recently started an exercise program that requires among other things
that I jog twice a week.
a
Yesterday while jogging I felt a slight pain in my right lung.
As I went along the pain progressed to the point where I had to stop
and walk.  The pain died down and I commenced jogging, but it came
back again.  I also notice this same pain in the same lung when
doing intensive sets of jumping jacks.  What could be the cause
of this?  How might I prevent this from happening again?

Thanks.  Richard Earl Jr.
From: shoroff@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bart Simpson)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Refrigerating Potatoes
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:08:29 GMT
Reply-To: shoroff@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bart Simpson)
Organization: Univ of Texas at Austin
Originator: shoroff@minnie.cc.utexas.edu

In a cookbook I read recently it was mentioned that refrigerating potatoes
converts the starch in them to sugar. (complex carbohydrates to simple ?)
How true is this? I've certainly noticed a definite difference in the 
texture of them, but is this what happens? Should be a matter of concern 
if that actually happens, right?

Srihari
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From: laurie@tcom.stc.co.uk (Laurie Constantin)
Subject: Re: Competative powerlifting for women
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 14:09:02 GMT

>In article <1992Aug31.121244.14433@rchland.ibm.com>, alter@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (E. Alter) writes:
> I have a friend who is interested in getting into competative powerlifting.
> Without any serious weight training, she's quite strong (she was in shot-put in
> high-school track).  Can anyone point me to
> sources for training ideas, rules, techniques, competitions (in Minnesota), so I
> can get her going on the right track?
>
	

	I presume that if your friend was a shot putter then she is on the
	large side. If this is the case then this could be an advantage in 
	women's powerlifting as there are not many competitors in the higher
	weight classes. Most of the strong women are in the fly/feather 
	divisions. 

	In the British Drug Free Women's meet, there were only 4 entrants over
	154 lbs, and they only lifted about the same as the lighter ones.

	Laurie.
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Ferrigno in Olympia
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:09:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.031121.6901@math.ucla.edu> barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes:
>Word from Gold's was that Ferrigno took 12th place
>at the olympia.
>

Give the man some credit!  He's not a bodybuilder anymore!
He's an actor!  :-)

GMS
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: '92 Mr. Olympia & Steroids, a criticism.
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:50:43 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep13.021236.21499@math.ucla.edu> barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes:
>In article <1992Sep12.120234.1@vax1.tcd.ie> kellyfj@vax1.tcd.ie writes:
>> 
>> 
>> I'm sorry folks, I'm one of those people who believes that ALL of those guys  
>in
>> Mr. Olympia are on steroids. 
>
>What do you mean 'believe'? They _do_. There is no question about
>it. Everyone on that stages uses steroids and or GH. This is not
>news. 

Yeah?  Well I'm one of those people who believes that ALL
of the people on the net are on steroids.  As well as all
the characters in the Disney movie "Beauty and the Beast".
>
>(my friend works out with many of those folks at Golds. I've heard
>what they are taking...)

(my friend is two-dimensional and very animated and says some of
the characters take them to feel "thicker"...)
>
>
GM("Just the Facts")S
From: Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Fitness equipment prices
Date: 8 Sep 1992 19:16:46 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
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I've recently started reading this newsgroup and I wondr if there is an
FAQ somewhere regarding prices of fitness equipment here in the United
States. I've been looking to get a couple of benches for home use and
haven't found a lot of alternatives.

If there is a FAQ list, could someone please re-post it? If not, please
send me names and addresses of stores that distribute fitness equipment
if you know of any, and I'll be glad to post the results of this query.

Thanks!

Paco
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From: baker@westsd.dco.dec.com (Art Baker)
Subject: Re: MUSCLE by Samuel Fussell
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:21:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.110938.337@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>In article <135082@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, roberts@phoenix.ocf.llnl.gov (Don Roberts) writes:
>> Some critics
>> have claimed that he got involved in bodybuilding with the intent of
>> writing an expose. If true, then the pictures of him in competition form
>> suggest he's one of the most dedicated investigative journalists on the
>> planet.
>
>I agree.  I don't believe that somebody with an ounce of intelligence would 
>start juicing to that degree just to write a book...

 Actually, during a TV talk-show interview, just after his book hit the
stands, Fussel himself said that he had approached several publishers
about the possibility of writing a book on "the bodybuilding lifestyle"
before he moved out to California.  That project was probably not his
only motivation, but he was working on it (to the extent of keeping
notes) during his stay in California.

 From the horse's mouth...



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From: iris@ds.huji.ac.il (IRIS HARPAZ)
Subject: Electrode treatment for loosing fat
Reply-To: iris@ds.huji.ac.il
Organization: The Hebrew university of Jerusalem
Date: 6 Sep 92 08:57:49 GMT


Dose anyone knows or has experiment in Electrode treatment for loosing fat?

Iris Harpaz
Iris@ds.huji.ac.il
From: poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Bodybuilding Hilarity II
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:08:07 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

well, mike matarazzo was guest poser at the powerhouse grand prix
competition, held in waltham, massachusetts, last saturday.  he gave a
seminar -- an open ended question and answer session.

he is marrying sandy ridell (sp?) of bodybuilding fame in november.

his training routine, he said, included  "doing shoulders and deltoids on
tuesdays."  now, which ones do you think he does first?  :)

he also indicated that he will win the olympian in '93, to be held in new
york city, finishing with "it's gonna be lots of sickness for thickness to
take it, but i'm gonna do it!"

poo
From: bwf@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (bernard.w.fecht)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Bursitas in Right Knee
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:04:35 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Well, I know how you feel about Shoulder Bursitas, cause it looks like
I have Bursitas in my right knee.  Very painful.  The orthopedist has
me on muscle relaxants now, which improves things greatly, but I'm
wondering what's going to happen when my perscription runs out.  Right
now, I'm good for maybe a run every other day.  Without the pills, I'd
be lucky to walk a block without pulling up lame.  Has anyone out there
have experience that they can share??

Thanks.
From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: WANTED: Marcy EM/1 Pro Accessory Weight Kit
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:04:21 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC


 If anyone has the accessory weight kit for the Marcy EM/1 and they
would be willing to sell it please send e-mail to paul@panix.com
 
 Thanks

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From: chase@isi.edu (Dale Chase)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Caffeine dosages
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:21:42 GMT
Reply-To: chase@earvin.isi.edu (Dale Chase)
Organization: USC-Information Sciences Institute

WELL I'VE BEEN TAKING 1000 MG OF CAFFEINE EVERY DAY FOR THE LAST FEW
MONTHS, AND I HAVEN'T HAD *ANY* PROBLEMS!!!!  SO GO AHEAD AND USE IT TO
BOOST THOSE WORKOUTS AND **STOP WORRYING**, OK!!!!?????


Disclaimer for the humor impaired: ;)
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From: kettyle@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (john.jr.kettyle)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Caffeine
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:35:44 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <1992Sep11.193158.12536@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, by djk@saki.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (just only me):
> In article <1992Sep11.063347.912@mr.med.ge.com>, bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971) writes:
> |> 
> |> From what I just heard on TV dhat iron depletion may not be all bad.  They
> |> have found some coreolation(sp) between high iron levels, and heart attacks.
> |> I wish I knew more as this sounds interesting with loads of people gulping
> |> down iron suplements that may bve doing more bad than good?
> |> 
> |> Dennis
> |> 
> 
> From what I read in the Wall Street Journal the other day, doctors have
> linked high iron level intake to the production of free radicals.  Of course
> we all know that free radicals have been linked to the cause of things
> like cancer, heart disease, cataracts, aging, etc. (well this is 
> misc.fitness isn't it ;-) ).  
> 
> It is known that anti-oxidants help combat the free radicals in our body (on a
> good day each cell takes 100,000 hits from free radicals) which are caused
> by such things as normal metabolism, exercise, pollution, ozone, x-rays 
> etc.  For references to this see the April 6th issue of TIME magazine (cover
> story) as well as U.S. News and World Report (cover story - don't have
> date handy but it came out after the TIME issue).
> 
The problem here is that caffine is not an antioxidant. If you want to get
rid of free radicals try vitamin A, C, D, and E. I believe all are listed
as anti-oxidants. ( Try betaCarotene to get the A, no more posts on Vit. A
poisoning, Please)

> The good news is that supplements containing anti-oxidants can help.  Now 
> I know that this statement will not be popular with some people who read this 
> newsgroup and they will disagree vehemently with this statement, saying this 
> is "voodoo medicine".   But I would expect this from people who have little 
> or no knowledge on this relatively new topic.  I can get my hands
> on reams of scientific papers dealing with this subject.  It is not a
> new subject to the scientific community, only to the rest of the world.  
> If anyone would like more info, feel free to contact me.
> 	
Voodoo medicine would be to tell someone to drink X number of cups of
coffee for better health. Taking a vitamin suppliment in a proper dosage is
not.

> 			Doug


John
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: Exercise Bulimics
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:29:21 GMT

I've seen articles describing male problems where weight loss is required
for sports such as wrestling and track.  But the articles also say the problem
more prevalent among women.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: starg@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (tony.a.stargel)
Subject: Machines
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:10:46 GMT


I was wondering if anyone has any knowledge or experience
with SoloFlex or the new machine (NOrdic Trak I think?)?
Any type of info good or bad would be appreciated.

Thanks.

Tony Stargel
From: mbeisel@digi.lonestar.org (Michael Beisel)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Hernia Surgery--Exercising Afterwards?
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:10:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: DSC Communications, Plano Tx.

Hi, folks.

I had surgery in May to repair an inguinal hernia (a hernia in the
groin area), and am interested in hearing comments from people who
may have had similar surgery.

Specifically, I would like to hear about your experiences with
resuming an exercise regimen following the surgery.  How gradually
did you work yourself up to your former levels of exercise?  Did you
experience any discomfort?  Is there anything special you did to
strengthen the affected area?  Just FYI, prior to surgery I had been
running three miles, three times a week, and had also been doing
some light (I'm no Incredible Hulk) weight-lifting three times a
week.

Any comments would be appreciated.

Post or E-mail.
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From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Re: chest muscles
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
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Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 06:57:06 GMT

donald.w.coons (yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Sep14.022804.1661@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jat8419@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
: >Bench press
: >Flys
: >cross cables
: >dumbell press
: >push ups
: >incline press
: >decline pree
: >decline press
: >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
: 
: Add Pullovers to this list and you have one killer of a chest workout.


If you want to contour the chest keep your grip close together on the bar,
if you want power try a wide grip.  Or better yet do it both ways.

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From: taylorw@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Wanted: NordicTrack Ski Simulator
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:42:07 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Would like to purchase  a used NordicTrack Ski Simulator.

Thankyou for your time,

Wes Taylor

"Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty."

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: Caffeine dosages
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:50:35 GMT

I drink a cup of coffee to wake me up for a morning run.  But there better
be bushes along the way due to caffeine's diuretic effects.

After a very long run I am tempted to have a cup of coffee to perk me up.
However, I find it has the opposite effect of keeping the pulse up and
slowing down recovery, so I avoid it.
From: yyz@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (donald.w.coons)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: chest muscles
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:57:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep14.022804.1661@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jat8419@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Bench press
>Flys
>cross cables
>dumbell press
>push ups
>incline press
>decline pree
>decline press
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Add Pullovers to this list and you have one killer of a chest workout.

Don Coons
dwc@wnb3b2.att.com
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Competative powerlifting for women
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:43:45 GMT

From: laurie@tcom.stc.co.uk (Laurie Constantin)
>    women's powerlifting... there are not many competitors in the higher
>    weight classes. Most of the strong women are in the fly/feather
>    divisions.
>    In the British Drug Free Women's meet, there were only 4 entrants over
>    154 lbs, and they only lifted about the same as the lighter ones.

now i'm curious. how much weight are you talking about?
anyone know what type of weight you have to lift to win/place in Britian/US?
or elsewhere? just curious.

thanks
Janice

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From: smay@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Scott Smay)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:07:33 GMT
Subject: Squats pain question
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: misc.fitness

I started doing squats again, and the resulting pain reminded me of a question
I meant to ask last winter....

After squats, the muscle that gets sorest and recovers slowest is the inside
rear of my upper thigh. What muscle is this? Is there some companion exercize
that will develop this muscle so I don't need an extra recovery day just for
this?

I lift mainly for running/skiing, and the extra recovery day really cuts into
running. Thanks for any information/advice.

cheers,
scott smay

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: ss8f@csissun5.ee.Virginia.EDU (Sanjay Srinivasan)
Subject: Re: name of this exercise..
Followup-To: ss8f@virginia.edu
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: misc.fitness
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:49:54 GMT

In article <TMR.92Sep7160547@fat-controller.bham.ac.uk> tmr@cs.bham.ac.uk (Tim M. Read) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone could put a name to a form of exercise I heard
>about a while ago, so that I know where to look to get more information.
>
>It consists (so I understand) of tensing muscles, (eg) as if you are pushing
>against an imaginary object. Apparently the exercise is obtained by
>different groups of muscles working against each other. The good thing about
>this is that it can be done anywhere (eg on an aeroplane, or train journey),
>without any equipment or space.
>

Calisthenics?

Sanjay
From: m23364@mwunix (James Meritt)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Periodicity of training
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:52:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA


Basically, the idea of alternating days of training muscle groups is that the
exercise "tears down", and then during the "Day of rest" the muscle rebuilds
to accomodate the stress that induced the tear-down in the first place.
(OK, it is more than that, I know, but I don't need a book here)

Anyway, is a symptom of that "tear down" the stiffness/pain/discomfort that
you feel in that muscle group?  If it does NOT feel whatever, then, is it
a reasonable assumption that it was insufficiently stressed for growth and
that there is no need to wait a day before hitting it again?


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