From: oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: ARABISIM AND ISLAM
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:16:53 GMT
Organization: IMAG, University of Grenoble, France
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scemg@thor.cf.ac.uk (M.G) writes:
: From: faris@sarcasm.trl.OZ.AU (Aziz Faris)
: Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
: 
: Faris writes about Jaber:
: 
: I will embrace you as my brother and comrad to glorify the Arabic culture 
: which by the way I am proud off.
: -----------------------------------------------------------------------
: A brother and proud off, of course he is your brother and you are 
: proud of him. That is the duity of any Christian of your kind to 
: find scums like jaber to attak Islam and the Moslems. 

  Jaber NEVER attaked Islam and Moslem. It was YOU who started accusing
  Christian Arabs of being non loyal to their countries. Second, would 
  you please stop shouting and being impolite like a kid ?.

: If you can not find a christian to do the dirty job for you way 
: not, find an idiot who think he is a Moslem and beleives 
: in arabisim and other rubbish to do the dirty work for you and 
: unfortunatly thousands of arabs are misled by your nice talk 
: about arabisim and so on. after all that what your MOTHER COUNTRY 
: FRANCE did by finding scums like saddam, afleg, Tariq Aziz to 
: destroy ISLAM in the name of Arabism

  I'm Syrian, my mother country is Syria, my bretheren are Syrians, Arabs,
and all those who are willing to shake hands with me and my fellows.
Regardless their religion nor ethnic group.  Will Islam be destroyed if
i ask Muslims to be their equal ?, after all aren't we living together ?.
I think the answer is NO. Is it too much to ask

: One thing you should know Faris that in ISLAM we do not force anybody to
: be a Moslem, but unfortuntly (after all the respect to the christians in
: the Moslem countries) they force the Moslems to beleive in anything 
: but ISLAM like what the scums afleg and Tariq Aziz did.

  Well, Islam has known moments of glory and moments of darkness. Islam has
given examples of tolerance and respect (think of Omar Ibn Al Khattab), and
of horror and killing, a very recent example is the 1861 events in Lebanon
and Syria, the entire Christian population in Damascus would have died. But
thanks G-D, they had enough good Muslims bretheren to defend them, one of
them was the ruler of Damascus : Prince Abdel Kader of Algeria. Another
example of the way Muslims treaded MUSLIM minorities in Syria and Lebanon,
the Ismaiilit and Alawit population was almost reduced to slavery during
the last 500 years. Well, i hope you've got the point, Muslims can be very
good people, and be very bad and nasty. AS ANYONE ELSE (the same thing
applies on Christians, Jews, Pagans, atheists,...etc).

  So Mr M.G, scums exist everywhere, and you don't have the right to accuse
people of being scums just because you don't like them. Please keep in mind
that WE LOVE OUR COUNTRY, and we are more than willing to shake hands with
everyone who respects us.

 I'll end with a story about YOUR PROPHET. Once in a battle, Khaled ibn'el
waleed was pursuing an enemy, when the guy was stuck, he turned his face
and he pronounced Shahadah, but Khaled killed him. When Mohammed asked him 
why he did so, Khaled answered that he believed the guys was lying. Then
Mohammed asked him : "And who told you so ?, did you open his heart to know
if he was lying ?". PLEASE, is it too much to ask you to behave like your
prophet and stop accusing us of trying to destroy Islam. All what we want
is to live in peace, can you understand that ?. If you can't, then i'm
very sorry for you.


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