From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: AntiAbortion as AntiChristian(crap)
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:20:18 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In <1992Apr8.131953.27472@acd4.acd.com> wdo@IEDV4.acd.com ( Bill Overpeck (TE)  ) writes:

>In <1992Mar23.193446.5347@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com 
>   (drieux, just drieux) explains to Joy Haftel: >

>>1. every time that the antiAbortionists have been
>>asked to defend their assertion of a 'christian'
>>linkage on the abortion discussion they have 
>>proceded to show all that you attribute to blasphemy!
>>
>>2. They Procede to make Profane that which is DIVINE
>>in all of their efforts to form a 'biblical' defesne.
>>That to me shows a COMPLETE CONTEMPT for the bible
>>and the God of the Bible.

Okay, I can handle this one rather easily. Drieux,... no, I don't like
Drieux, it's too hard to spell. I'll call you Bob. Now Bob, I assure
you we are not antiAbortionists - We are Pro-FETUS... You see? There is
a difference. We do not dedicate our lives to abolishing abortion. it can
stay. But we dont' want it used. We defend the rights of the fetus
who cannot speak for his/her/its self. We do not blaspheme the holy
scriptures as you say. We merely use our brains (try it sometime - you'll
like the feeling)>
   The bible tells us:
1) life in all forms is sacred
2) thou shalt not kill but to defend your life or your neighbours from
   certain death
3) Judge not lest ye be judged
4) man must be innocent until proven guilty
5) What you do unto the weakest of men/women, that you do unto me.
Now, how do these biblical message relate to abortion?
1) Christians believe the fetus is life. Will be, has been, and IS.
2) No Woman or Man cannot kill a fetus because it jeopardizes his
financial, social or moral standing in society. Only to defend
his/her own LIFE. 
3) Do not feel that your intelligence is sufficient to determine whether
the fetus is alive or not. This can NEVER be proven. Until it is we must
abide by rule #4. 
4) Until we can determine the status of the fetus, we cannot assume
or deny whether it is human or not. Until we, as humanity can decide
unanimously that the fetus is NOT human, we cannot abort it. This
implies that "guilty until proven innocent" is implemented judicially,
and clearly , this logic cannot occur - so, the onus is on you - YOU
persuade all of mankind that the fetus is NOT human, then abortions
can be justified... Quite a task ahead of you eh?
5) Clearly the Good samaritan analogy applies here... How many of you
would pass your weakened neighbour on the road? It takes a special
person to assist this man who would have clearly perished without
any help. Well, God tells us that the weakest members of society
must be given due respect as the strongest members would expect.
We cannot argue whether the fetus is human or not because of rule #4. 
The next weakest victim is the elderly, and I wouldn't say they get a 
whole lot of respect either. Luckily they can still speak for themselves
so they dont' get utterly suppressed, but have you seen what old age
pension is nowadays? The convenience of euthanasian promising them an
escape from the troubles of old age? I think we see the pattern once
again. 

Anyways Bob, please don't attempt to tell us that we defame the bible's
word, and that we hold "contempt" for God's message. You clearly don't know
a thing about us or our teachings. You're too busy trying to string
your wordstogetherinwittyways to put any thoughts in your posts...
   Please try again...
steve
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