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From: cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka)
Subject: Re: What I've got and what I'd like to have
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:57:52 GMT

 jones@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W. Jones) writes:
> ... (Some good thoughts and a little commiseration) ...

>	Strip out the bad filters.  If your air is dirty enough to
>	need filtering, go to a furnace store and look at the filter
>	media they have to offer.  I've seen some "plastic" furnace
>	filter material that's not too different from the DEC stuff,
>	but thicker.  I assume it'd work well enough if you can get
>	it to fit in the path of the airflow.  I've got a rack-mount
>	system with no air filters (at least, none remaning) inside
>	the rack.  The top-of-rack fan still has a filter, though,
>	but just about anything can be stuffed there.

Unfortunately, my problem is that the whole filter assembly is shot.
I'm less concerned about filtering the air than restoring the case.
The sheet metal is showing some rust but can be repainted.  All those
snap-in plastic things are broken, and it looks pretty sad.  (Works
great, though -- just like you'd expect from an 8/e :-)

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From: scafati@incoming.med.ge.com (Victor-charles Scafati 4-6784 MR Srv)
Subject: Re: What I've got and what I'd like to have
Organization: GE Medical Systems
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 16:57:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.041602.20897@vpnet.chi.il.us>, cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka) writes:
|>  scafati@incoming.med.ge.com (Victor-charles Scafati 4-6784 MR Srv) writes:
|> >"REAL MEN" (and real women) don't use paper tape.  They use front panels.
|> 
|> Ah, yes...  I remember the contests we used to have, seeing who could
|> toggle in the RIM loader the fastest.  (That's probably one of the
|> reasons I need new switch handles :-)  I don't remember the record
|> time, but I used to be about average -- I'll time myself and see what
|> it comes out to.
|> 
|> -- 
|> ----------------------------------------------------
|> Gordon S. Hlavenka           cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us
|> Vote straight ticket Procrastination party Dec. 3rd!

Ah yes, 6016, 6011, 5027, 6016....  We used to compete on a PDP8/I which
had the smooth rocker switches rather than the toggle type.  The rockers
were far superior-  you could kind of "flow" down the switches rather
than flick up or down.  I have a PDP8/L, but I'd really like an PDP8/I
someday



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From: cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka)
Subject: Re: The good old days.
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 05:05:16 GMT

 lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>Assume that all of field 0 is all 0000 as the above might accomplish.  ADDR
>LOAD 0000, change the switches to 1777, press DEP, CONT.  Describe what the
>AC lights are doing, and why.

That's a weird one!  I just tried it, and now I'll have to sit down
and cipher what is going on in there...

>(On a difficulty scale of 1-10, this problem is rated 2.)

This means you have more?

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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: The good old days.
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:26:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.102634.20745@vpnet.chi.il.us> cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka) writes:

>
>A puzzle?  We ran this little ditty on almost a daily basis.
>0000 ADDR LD
>DCA I 0010
>JMP 0000
>0000 ADDR LD CLEAR CONT
>
>2 instructions.  Actually, we'd run it with the data field set to 1,
>then 2, and finally zero.  The program autoincrements itself right
>through the field, finally (in DF0) overwriting the DCA with a zero.
>(AND 0000)  Then the loop was a lot tighter -- you could see the
>difference in the panel lights.  You do have to make sure that
>location 10 has a 10 in it when you start, though...

When the DF is 10-70, it doesn't much matter what's in 00010, since you just
let it run more than enough times to clobber everything many times over.

With the DF 00, when the DCA I 10 is destroyed, the JMP isn't destroyed.
However, since the switches are zero from the last load address function, the
switches are thus conveniently set to 0000.  Hitting deposit will put a 0000
into the latest location, which since the running program is now:

	*0000

	AND	0
	JMP	0

means that the PC is either 00000 or 00001, so worst case you can either
deposit a 0000 over 00000 and 00001 if you hit deposit twice, or a 0000 over
00001 and 00002 if you hit deposit twice.  This can be done without looking at
the lights if you're in a hurry.  An alternative is to do ADDR LOAD then
DEP DEP but that might take most people a few extra milliseconds.

Here's one for the fans of the (nearly) cleared-out memory PDP-8:

Assume that all of field 0 is all 0000 as the above might accomplish.  ADDR
LOAD 0000, change the switches to 1777, press DEP, CONT.  Describe what the
AC lights are doing, and why.

(On a difficulty scale of 1-10, this problem is rated 2.)

cjl
From: scafati@incoming.med.ge.com (Victor-charles Scafati 4-6784 MR Srv)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp8
Subject: Re: What I've got and what I'd like to have
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:10:50 GMT
Organization: GE Medical Systems

In article <1992Nov14.061003.1247@vpnet.chi.il.us>, cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka) writes:
|>(I've heard of stuff like tape
|> drives and even disk drives for the pdp family, but REAL MEN don't use
|> such things! :-)
|> 

"REAL MEN" (and real women) don't use paper tape.  They use front panels.

|> -- 
|> ----------------------------------------------------
|> Gordon S. Hlavenka           cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us
|> Vote straight ticket Procrastination party Dec. 3rd!

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From: jones@pyrite.cs.uiowa.edu (Douglas W. Jones,201H MLH,3193350740,3193382879)
Subject: Re: What I've got and what I'd like to have
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:26:26 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <1992Nov14.061003.1247@vpnet.chi.il.us>,
by cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka):
> I have a pdp8/e.
	Me too, but not with any emotional connections.
> 
> I have a third- or fourth-generation photocopy of most (I think) of
> the ASR-33 Teletype schematics.
	I have originals of the schematics and maintenance manual.
> I have three extra M8650 current loop interface boards.
	I have a pile of these too -- but note, the 8650 can do RS232
	as well as current loop!  You can hook modern terminals to
	them at up to 2400 baud, and even faster if you use jumpers
	to points not advertised in the manual.  Read the extended
	comments in the board schematics for the M8650 to find out
	how to make the RS232 cable and how to jumper for higher
	speeds.
> Supplies?  I've got a _lot_ of blank 1" paper tape.
	I got cases and cased of oiled fanfold and roll tape, mostly
	black, but also a case of dark grey.  No DEC original tape,
	though.
> I'd like to have:
> A copy of BASIC that works.  I have my EDUSYSTEM-20 BASIC tape from
> the goodle days, but it doesn't run.
	I have the EDUSYSTEM-30 user's guide (mark-sense batch BASIC),
	The EDUSYSTEM-10 user's guide (basic, but minimal), the
	EDUSYSTEM Produce Catalog, including an undated letter
	offering price quotes, circa 1971, and a copy of the
	Educational Program Index from the same era.  All are DEC
	originals.  Sorry I don't have the software itself.
> I need several switch handles
> for the front panel (doesn't everybody?)
	I don't know about everybody, but one "goldenrod" handle
	would do me a world of good.  (Goldenrod is the official
	DEC name for the yellow color that goes opposite terra
	cotta on the PDP-8/E front panel).
> I'd be interested in a
> source for ASR-33 ribbons and paper.
	I think it's a standard kind of cloth ribbon.  If worse comes
	to worse, the width of the ribbon is exactly standard, so al
	you have to do is wind a ribbon from whatever kind of spool
	you get onto the ASR33 spool.
> And all of the plastic associated with the air filters in the
> desktop case has deteriorated,
	Strip out the bad filters.  If your air is dirty enough to
	need filtering, go to a furnace store and look at the filter
	media they have to offer.  I've seen some "plastic" furnace
	filter material that's not too different from the DEC stuff,
	but thicker.  I assume it'd work well enough if you can get
	it to fit in the path of the airflow.  I've got a rack-mount
	system with no air filters (at least, none remaning) inside
	the rack.  The top-of-rack fan still has a filter, though,
	but just about anything can be stuffed there.

				Doug Jones
				jones@cs.uiowa.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sys.pdp8
From: cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka)
Subject: Re: What I've got and what I'd like to have
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:16:02 GMT

 scafati@incoming.med.ge.com (Victor-charles Scafati 4-6784 MR Srv) writes:
>"REAL MEN" (and real women) don't use paper tape.  They use front panels.

Ah, yes...  I remember the contests we used to have, seeing who could
toggle in the RIM loader the fastest.  (That's probably one of the
reasons I need new switch handles :-)  I don't remember the record
time, but I used to be about average -- I'll time myself and see what
it comes out to.

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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: The good old days.
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:45:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.050516.19990@vpnet.chi.il.us> cgordon@vpnet.chi.il.us (gordon hlavenka) writes:
>
>This means you have more?

Not too many more for just a CPU per se.

Here's one that came up in another newsgroup:

Assume that there is a test location CHAR containing an arbitrary ASCII
character.  (If symbolic gets in the way, then assume it's location 0020,
i.e., CHAR=0020.)

Starting at 0200, write the shortest piece of code that can prove that the 
contents of CHAR are in fact within the range of printable octal digits, i.e,
are in the range 0060-0071.  Assume the worst, i.e., the contents could be
junk.  The idea is to do something which contains:

	*200

START,	CLA CLL			/CLEAN UP
	{whatever you need}
	TAD	CHAR		/GET THE POTENTIAL CHARACTER WE ARE TESTING
	{test it somehow}
	JMP	BAD		/JUMP THERE IF NOT AN OCTAL DIGIT
/	COMES HERE IF THE CHARACTER WAS GOOD.
	HLT			/THIS IS PAST THE CHALLENGE

BAD,	HLT			/COMES HERE WHEN CHAR AIN'T AN OCTAL DIGIT

Literally any 12-bit value might be in CHAR, but we want to weed out the
"good" values as defined.  The idea is to write the MINIMUM amount of code
to check for the good vs. the bad (and the ugly).  You supply the stuff that
belongs in place of the stuff inside of {} in both places.

Note: the AC is allowed to be "dirty" when you get to BAD.

When the CHAR is acceptable, it falls through for more processing, etc, so I
have merely placed a HLT there.  Similarly, the "bad" values, having been
isolated can be further processed at BAD, so I have merely placed a HLT there
as well.  (Hint: the AC=0000 through 0007 depending on whether the original
CHAR value was "0" through "7".)

On an scale of 1-10, this problem has a difficulty rating of 6.

cjl

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Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Displaying Astrolog Output on Tek - NOT a question!
From: vpopesc@opus.uucp (Valentin Popescu)
Date: 23 Nov 92 06:23:59 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: California State University, Lost Angels

Hello,

Here's a file I wrote a while ago explaining how to display the
graphical output from Astrolog on a Tektronics-capable terminal.
My output is quite good, comparable to the X bitmap mode (I compared
it to the output on OpenWindows 3.0), but your results may vary. I am
using VLT, a Commodore Amiga terminal.

I thought I'd post it, maybe some people may find it useful. You will
need the PBM package. Read the file for more.

---

The folowing example illustrates how to display Astrolog output
on unsupported graphical terminals. I use it for example, to display a
chart on a Tek41xx compatible terminal. As illustrated here, it will
work on 41xx and 40xx terminals.

My Tek settings are: 	Tek Emulation: 4105/4107 Incremental Mode Step: 4096
I am using VLT Version 5.517, by Willy Langeveld, SLAC, on a 1Mb Amiga 500,
but it shoudl work on any terminal programs that support tek. 

Additionally, you will need the PBMPlus package. If you don't already
have it compiled on your machine, you can obtain it via anonymous FTP
from various places. It is a big archive, but take heart, after
compiling you will only need two binaries: xbmtopbm and pbmtoplot. You
can delete the rest if you are pressed for space. 

What follows is a csh shell script that automates all the processing.
Extract it from here, save it, name it what you want (i.e. astrotek :),
do "chmod 700 [name]", where the [name] is what you named it, and you
are ready to roll, assuming you put xbmtopbm, pbmtoplot, and astrolog
in your search path. Input is a data file as produced by the -o option
in astrolog.

Note that to display on other graphical terminals, all you have to do
is change the 'plot -Ttek' to something else, e.g 'plot -Tvt125'. Of
course, depending on your terminal capabilities, that may or may not
look good. On tektronics, it looks like the Xwindows display, but it
takes a while to transfer all the data at 2400 baud! The faster your
connection, the better.

#The line that follows must be the VERY first line in the script. Delete me.
#!/bin/csh -f

onintr cleanexit


if ($1 == "") then
	echo Usage: `basename $0` \<input file\>
	exit 1
endif


astrolog -i $1 -Xo output.$$ -Xr -Xb

xbmtopbm output.$$ | pbmtoplot | plot -Ttek


cleanexit:
	rm -f output.$$
	exit 0

#end of script. Cut everything after me (including me, if you wish).

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Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: csekharu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chandra Sekharudu)
Subject: How are my stars doing ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:39:46 GMT

Can some one give me an astrological reading.  

I was born on Feb 21, 1958, morning 3:34AM in south India.  Thanx.


chandra
From: Carole@brownvm (Carolyn Egan)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Clinton's pkge ready
Followup-To: alt.astrology
Date: 20 Nov 1992 18:03:44 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cis_staff-kntx53.cis.brown.edu

At last - the package is ready for mailing.  For those of you have been
anticipating delivery, I apologise for the delay, I was down for a week
with the flu.  The package includes the following:

Professional Natal Report for William Clinton
   Natal Chart for verified birth time, place
   26 pages of natal delineation - houses, aspects both major & minor,    
	         			hemisphere and element emphasis
Numerology reports for birthname and date using William Jefferson Blythe
   Numerology for name only using possibly legal names _ William J. Clinton

   and/or William B. Clinton
Astrocartography world map - was going to include a printout from my
program but
   alas, I have a bug in the program which Matrix has not been able to fix
and
   the maps print out too small to read easily.  I will send a map copied
from
   WTPE
Transits for the week of inauguration printed in both standard text and 
   relationship text.  The transits are calculated to the relocated D.C.
chart.
Relocated chart to Washington DC.

If you are interested in receiving the package (duplexed pages), please
mail me privately for address and nominal charge for preparation, s&h.

Regards, Carol
From: Carole@brownvm (Carolyn Egan)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Mars stationary
Followup-To: alt.astrology
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:58:38 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cis_staff-kntx53.cis.brown.edu

Where in your chart (or of friends, lovers, family) is Mars by transit? 
Pay special attention to 28 degrees of Cancer in those charts.  Mars is
approaching a station (is 27 deg. today) and will retrograde on Sunday,
11/28.

While Mars has been slowing, my observations have been to see in the news
increased fire activity both local, national and global (Windsor Castle). 
Our local news has been reported more violence and killings, multiple motor
accidents and the weather here in R.I. has been intense (fog and mucho
rain).  I've heard of the violent storms which hit 11 states and has killed
more people (without a full body count at the moment) than the hurricane in
Florida.

Since this Mars energy is so very potent, I would advise all who are
reading to analyze the potential of transiting Mars in their charts and be
very cautious about handling the action it will bring into your lives.  If
you are receiving a direct hit to a planet or point (mine is on the 7th
house cusp so I'll try to be aware of my husband's burst of energy or his
being truculent and work with the energy or just fight! ) 

At any rate - please be careful - it's hard to avoid this energy especially
with Mercury rx also.  The U.S. chart has something at 27 degrees Capricorn
- anyone remember what the planet is?

Regards, Carol
From: "jim kane" <jim.kane@canrem.com>
Subject: camille paglia birth info
Reply-To: "jim kane" <jim.kane@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:43:45 EST

CMO>I read in _Sex, Art and American Culture_ that Dr. Paglia is an Aries.  Doe
CMO>anyone know much more about her birth info than just that? Like *date*? Was
CMO>she born in '47 or 48? Even scarier, could she be Albert Gore's astro-twin?

    Sorry, don't know her birthdate but I must say it did'nt take long
    to figure out she was Aries. They had a picture of her at a lecture
    and a review of it. Her animated movements, fist on hip, and all her
    macho talk just screams out     ARIES !!!

    Venus in Aries produces especially macho women.

     The following quote is from  Debbi K.Smith's book humourous book,
     "Secrets from a Stargazers Notebook".

     "Yes, ladies and gentlemen, here's the old double standard, and the
     males and females with Venus in Aries are male chauvenists. Imagine
     what this does to women with Venus here. They too believe that
     womens place is in the sack, being conquered, but they love the
     hunt. Some people like fishin' and shootin'. Venus in Aries likes
     conquering - just for the hell of it. The song "Under My Thumb"  by
     the Stones is their guiding credo. These women are fiercely
     competitive."

     "Be aggressive. They love to be worshipped. But they do little to
     earn your admiration in the sack because they are so selfish. They
     will only strive to please you at the outset.  When you feel their
     insistent little hands forcing your head toward unknown corners of
     the Universe, this is Venus in Aries everytime."

     "... Hammerlocks around the neck with your fist on their chins turn
     them on. Muss up their hair. Touch their faces a lot. Rub the part
     between the eyebrows. There. Now they belong to you."

     "...Refuse to be crushed by that overwhelming selfish ego of
     theirs. Don't take any gruff from them, stand up and fight with
     every shred of self-respect and independance you can muster.  Give
     'em fire and brimstone. Bite them. Pinch them. Scratch them. When
     they drag out the old flame bit get them to stop acting like
     babies...."
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Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: saucc00@DMI.USherb.CA (Dudy)
Subject: Astronomy program
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke departement Math-Info
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:41:08 GMT

Maybe not the ideal group for this but I can't find any astronomy newsgroup.
Anyway, I'm more in astrology than astronomy so...

Can someone point me out a good program (ftp?) that generates a map of the
celestial objects.  This is for a MS-DOS machine with VGA graphics card.

Thanx.

-- 
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			William Blake, <The Marriage of Heaven and Hell>
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: di@stat.tamu.edu (Di Davies)
Subject: relationship charts and significant days
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:09:09 GMT


Hi.  Just wondering.  My fiance and I were born near each other and we
are planning our wedding on a day near to those days.  Even though every
thing is written in stone now, as far as the date goes, I thought maybe
I should think about the astrological implications of this.  I have a
basic understanding of astrology, I've cast charts by hand and by 
astrolog.  What do you all think would be the best way to go about
analyzing these days?  I am a bit confused about what a relationship
chart tells me, but I have references on that I could pull out of boxes
if I really need to.  

On the surface, without examining the days, it seems like a good idea
to get married on a day near your birth day, as the patterns should be
close to each other.  Hence energies being good, etc.  

And if we hadn't already decided the day, are there any comments on
how the date should have been decided?  I would think a favorable
Venus, Sun, perhaps Mercury would be first on the list of candidate
dates (or is that candiDATEs?).  

I hadn't heard of taking three days together in an analysis before.  Any
one have comments, suggestions, otherwise helpful remarks?

-di
di@stat.tamu.edu
"Put your faith in a loud guitar"--KISS/Revenge
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From: as_radfo@csd.uwe.ac.uk (AS Radford)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: NATAL INTERPRETATIONS AS EXAMPLES
Keywords: just a suggestion
Date: 15 Nov 92 15:21:53 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

In article <BxL3Ep.2p1@acsu.buffalo.edu> v557nv8k@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu ) writes:
>In article <11NOV199212455966@vax2.concordia.ca>, gautam@vax2.concordia.ca (MUNDKUR, GAUTAM) writes...
>> 
>>I think one of the best ways to learn about natal interpretations is by
>>using the examples of some well known person's chart along with various
>>discussions.
>> 
>>Can someone post names of such books which exclusively do this ?
>>  ... etc.
>
>I do not know of any book but  ...

Maybe my memory isn't what it should be (I'm a pre-baby-boom old fart :-)
but I think the set of books entitled 'The Only Way to Learn Astrology'
works on this basis, doesn't it?




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