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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:11:35 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Words (was Re: Girl Scouts)
              30 Jul 1992 09:08:28 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

Could a "semi-agnostic" be one who's not sure if he's not sure about the
existence of God? :)

Evelyn
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:20:34 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Quote needed
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Awright, who said it, and what's the *exact* quotation,
please:

"It's a person with a small imagination who can only think
of one way to spell a word."

This isn't a test, by the way, it's a request for information :-)

love, judith
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:41:23 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      No Picture of Giggles (was Re: Eating Whales)
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Why is Giggles not in a single one of my clambake pictures??  I'm
beginning to think that I just imagined him -- that he wasn't really
there.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:20:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: big league plagiarism
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> Plagiarism?  Legal action?  Embarrassment?  Never getting published again?
>
> Hmmmmm....when one thinks of the chance of getting caught.....with
> a zillion romances, and half a zillion horror  books....makes me wonder
> how often it happens and we just don't hear about it.  To say nothing about
> it happening in the "happy groves of Macadam/Academe/Macadamia Nuts"
>
> dan

At a major Hispanic conference in 1978, I sat and listened to a
major address (they call them plenary sessions) by one of the
most <established> members of my profession, which was a resume
of my unpublished, but copyrighted, Ph.D. dissertation, and which
included no mention of my name.  First I thought I would <throw
up>, then I just felt devastated.  I never did anything about it
because I didn't know what to do.  The address was later
incorporated into a major book by this person.  There is a slight
possibility that he arrived at these observations independent of
my dissertation, but I don't think so.  So, I always think of
myself as someone who published his dissertation by proxy.
--ggs (an *almost* <established> member of his profession)
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Cure For High Blood Pressure?

Good Morning All,

Yesterday, abh, was wanting a little action, so before I read accumulated
mail, let me throw out a couple of post to help get things rolling.

First, station I listen to on way to work has little trivia game.  Today's
was which of the following (which I won't list) is true about nudists?  The
answer was, nudists as a group have lower blood pressure than non's - 7 %
vs 17 %.  So which of my two conclusions are accurate?:

a.  becoming a nudist will tend to lower your blood pressure

or

b.  people with high blood pressure tend not to become nudists.

OK, next post will be a little more controversial.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:18:25 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Gopher
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: Sounds like you have some very rational, non-paranoid reasons for keeping the
: archive off the net. I say you stick the tape in the back of a file cabinet or
: use it as a doorstop.

I could put it on *my* shortly forthcoming internet machine, but it'll
only be accessible while I'm phoning in - probably only an hour a day :-(

Also, my own database software stores data *plus* indexes in less
space than the original data, using some smart compression code (that
we bought from one of the net.compression.experts - Tim Bell) bt
unfortunately it only works on DOS.  Still, at a pinch I *could*
offer a DOS distribution service by mail - we have a mass duplicating
machine that knocks disks out in seconds.

G
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:40:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Gender of Banks
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> Says Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>:
> >is a *bank* male?   and one's country female?  I think everybody knows
> >why cars/boats/ships/bicycles/airplanes are female, and it ain't nice.
> >--ggs (trying to get back to the *real* reason for this list: words)
>
> I think one's country isn't necessarily female either.  Germany as the
> Fatherland comes to mind.
>
> - Don R

Good example, BUT, would a German say (in the language of the old
country, of course)  I *love* Germany, *he* has been good to me.
?????  NOT!!!!  I have a VW bus, large and cranky, that I have named
"Martha", after a former sometimes girlfriend who was very ample.
*She* gets me wherever I want to go, except to Rhode Island.
--ggs
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:27:00 HST
From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      What kind of dossier is this stuff going into?

Yesterday I got on the phone and ordered an update to the new
version of Corel Draw.  But I nearly had an attack of Grahamitis in
the process.  Corel is a Canadian company, as many of you know.
After taking care of the shipping and billing information, the
fellow at the other end of the line asked for my social security
number.  Pardon me . . . my social security number?  Yes, he said,
we have to report it to customs.  What in blazes is this about?  Who
is going to end up with that number and for what nefarious purposes?

Michael E. Macmillan
(macmillm@ewc)
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:00:07 EDT
From:         Don Thornton <DTHORNTN@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sea World (was re: Gleanings (54
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Well Gib you were termed the colonel in the post clam slam wrap up,
though you ducked it fairly successfully and it was scooped up
by Brad.

don
          dthorntn@brownvm.brown.edu
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:44:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Apophasis
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> >To be compared to Lenny is not an insult, it is a compliment.  You do
>                                                                 ^^^^^^
> >write like Lenny, however.  No one does.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> Oops.  That should have said "You do not write like Lenny".
>                                   Bill Sjostrom

Once again, I don't know whether I have been graciously complimented
or surreptitiously insulted.  I'm getting more confused all the time.
I think this whole thing is somebody else's fault....
:-( :-: :-)
--ggs
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 15:32:31 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: dreary weekend
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> Hi folks. I've been lurking on this list for a few weeks now, and
> enjoying the "dribbling insanity" that floods my mailbox.  I hope
> you won't get serious in any great hurry...  this list provides the
> entertainment sorely lacking in my acadamia-dominated life.
> -  Ruth (jsrmr@alaska.bitnet)

Welcome, Ruth. I lurked for quite a while before I became brave enough to
test the waters. Still lurk more than I write.  You are right about this
list providing entertainment, but it also provides information at times, and
always provides warm friendships.  Hope you enjoy participating in it.
What part of acadamia dominates your life?
Doris
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:43:17 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Speaking of catering to the lowest common denominator
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>And humor-impaired bayla responds:
>
>Surely you jest.  Or, perhaps, you know the phrase as 'least common
>denominator' -- that number, which when applied in arcane ways to a group
>of fractions, helps to transform them all into expressions of the same
>type: e.g., 2/8 + 1/4 + 4/16 must be turned into 1/4 + 1/4 + 1/4 before the
>addition operation may be performed: here '4' is the lowest common
>denominator.  The metaphor implies that there is a characteristic, common
>to a large group of people, which will enable one to please them all if one
>caters to it.  The 'lowest common denominator' plays also on the senses of
>"lowest" and "common" to suggest that such a characteristic is not of a
>refined nature.  Greed, slapstick humor, fast food -- things "anybody"
>might like, if their sensibilities had not been "educated."

My point in asking was that there is no very satisfying way of explaining
the metaphor. The lowest common denominator is actually the most efficient
number to do the job, i.e. it's the number which makes for the least amount
of messing with the fractions. It's hard to express this, but the race seems
to be in the opposite direction when you want to please all.

My theory is that the playing on "lowest" and "common" has been much more
influential in the success of this phrase than any clear metaphorical
value. When I hear "lowest common denominator" I instinctively know what it
means, without thinking about its meaning in arithmetic. When I do think
about the meaning in arithmetic, the phrase begins to sound strange. I
think this is what happens in everyone's minds when they hear the phrase
for the first time.

tushar
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:16:32 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Problem *IS* With DV!
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> The Doctor's fee is $1.00  (well, it only took a minute to send mail...)

How about a nude picture of Bernard instead?  No... that would be far too
valuable.  You could sell it for a fortune.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:17:00 EDT
From:         Ovinglay Is-hay Eeahtamay <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: birth order
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> 2Judith who is the baby and remembers when her sisters (including
>         the not-yet-serious-and-stable Ann) cut her hair when she
>         was in a wheel chair *totally* incapacitated with two broken
>         legs and a broken arm received when she fell off the roof
>         of a two-story house under construction

I'm sorry 2Judith my dear but I *know* you are making this up.
I saw this in a movie once.  Or is this one of those
<double-entendre> posts, and I just don't understand it?
--ggs (who can spot a fishy story in the <batting> of an eye)
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:45:09 CDT
From:         Bernard Chien Perro <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IRC
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> >How can I get there?  I've *missed* Bernard!
>
> So have I!

Awwww.  Y'all are making me blush.  I did notice a flurry of protests last
night when Natalie made me leave IRC, though...
                        o/.\____/
         -- Bernard      \______|
                         / \  / \
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:08:17 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Eating sugar
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              92 11:57 am

> > well....i don't think THAT is it.....but yes, we consume no refined sugar
> > and no alcohol....not because we are better than anyone else or holier than
> > non-dancing baptists or anything....but because we are recovering addicts...
> > and one cookie is too many and a thousand isn't enough....etc etc etc
>
> I think of you every time I eat sugar, Dan.  I think you are very strong
> to have been able to stop.

	I gave up most sugar quite easily when Nico and I moved in
together.  I think the only sugary thing we have in the house (besides
the sugar itself) is a jar of grape jelly.  Although I *could* buy
a package of cookies every week or some snackies for me, it's just
easier to use his diabetes as an excuse and not keep the stuff
around.  One thing that has been great about it is that fruit tastes
so much better and sweeter now that my tastebuds are not being bombarded
with twinkies etc.  I don't think I've ever eaten so much fruit in
my life.

Czarina
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:03:02 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Dessert
              22 Jul 1992 11:47:27 EDT from <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:47:27 EDT jcs said:
>
>The Subway's around here went out of bidness because there
>are REAL sammich places all over.  And REAL bakeries.

We have real bakeries, too:  the ITT Continental Bakery (Wonder Bread
and Hostess snack cakes) and the Nickles Bakery (Nickles Bread and
snack cakes). ;)

Actually, the best bakery around town makes only muffins (and what
muffins!)

>
>Jenna

Evelyn
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*** Resending note of 07/29/92 22:09

>This seems to be a characteristic of many of the press. It reminds me of
>the many times I've watched a local newscast and a reporter thrusts a
>microphone in the face of a mother whose child has just drowned (or been
>shot or been kidnapped, etc.) and asks "How do you feel?" Total insensitivity
>and rudeness.
>Doris

Doris, I don't usually hold a grudge, but it is because of this exact kind
of rudeness and insensitivity that today I will not watch the news on a
specific TV station here in Tampa.  You may recall a number of years ago
the airliner that crashed in the Potomic, when the wings of the plane were
to iced up to maintain flight.  That aircraft's destination was Tampa.  The
lead news anchor of the local TV station (and he STILL is), rushed to Tampa
Airport and was interviewing a man (whose wife was one of the non-survivors)
to get his reaction.  The man DID NOT EVEN KNOW THE PLANE HAD CRASHED!  It
was one of the worst interviews I have even seen.  I would have fired the
news anchor on the spot, had I that power.  He acted like a completely
insensitive jerk.  He still does.  No, I don't watch him, but hear about him.

Don, who usually doesn't get upset.
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 23:13:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: You said a mouthful
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> My nomination for phrase of the week is:
>           recidivous rhetorical metagrobolizing
>
> I plan to use this phrase as often as possible in my day to day
> conversation. How about you ?
>                                               Br Paul

I, being the author of this phrase, which is quoted without
the attribution dictated by the commonly accepted tenets of good
taste,must admit that I am nevertheless charmed and most modestly
proud to have my imaginative inventiveness given due recognition.
--ggs
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:17:00 EDT
From:         ktw@HLWPK.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Quail Season
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>>Matters touching ones children can bring out the nobility in anyone.
>
>     Unfortunately, they can also bring out the hypocrite and
>     cross-burner.  Parents opposing sex education and giving
>     contraceptives to minors... parents picketing their child's
>     AIDS-infected classmate... parents demanding that _The Wizard of
>     Oz_ be taken off the library shelves... all of these
>     controversies have the moralistic shrillness that comes when
>     people use their children to justify their own prejudices.

Carol, run this by me again.  The Wizard of Oz???  WHY?

Ken
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:52:00 EDT
From:         ktw@HLWPK.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Reading manuals
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>--Adam/LH
>who had a very interesting lunch today with Ken and Ginny

Do you want to explain that further, Mr. Hartfield?...:-)

Ken

PS--"Ken and Ginny" sounds like the name of a pair of perverse
dolls.  Not so far wrong....
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:59:17 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gifs
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> There is no connection between being gifless and having gif viewers
> available.

Strictly speaking, you are correct.  But why, then, is John gifless?  Or
rather why does he seem to feel deprived for being gifless?  Everybody who
has e-mail can use ftp, although it's apparently rather messy to do it the
mail way.   That reminds me -- I'll be happy to send anybody who wants them
the uuencoded versions of any of the gifs.  (I uuencoded the new ones last
night.)  Who else is going to send some clambake gifs?  If only I had a
scanner, I could make available some good ones, including Mama Primate
trying to put foot in mouth on Boston T and Anne BWP at the wheel of the
convertible.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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*** Resending note of 07/31/92 13:28


>Do you really think MEN belong in that environment?

Judith, I have been in that environment, to a somewhat lessor degree, and I
don't think ANYONE belongs there, but women less than men, and children
less than either.  But, unfortunately, I have witnessed all three groups
in very bad circumstances (ex:  boy, about 10, who had shot VC who had
killed his mother).  As I said before, the subject depresses me and I most
likely should not have brought it up ...but was genuinely concerned in how
this group felt ....not in fanning flames.
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Date: 22 Jul 92 09:10:46
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In-reply-to: Tushar Samant's message of Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:32:03 CDT

In article <9207212232.AA01952@zaphod.uchicago.edu> Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU> writes:

   >Tushar,
   >
   >Your verbosity is matched only by your pomposity.
   >
   >//anne, necessarily but not sufficiently impressed//

   You keep out of this, boof, unless you have valuable comments
   to make. I have remarked once before on the difficulty of
   dealing with Anne H's. I have no wish to expend effort on this
   kind of cowardly accusation yet again.

   Bah!

   tushar

What, cowardly?  As value is subjectively defined I refute your insinuation
that my comments are not valuable.  Pah to you, Tushar.  Methodically
mathematical-type arguments are only one of the paths to truth and
enlightenment--that you dismiss the validity of others is your own limitation.

//anne, who would challenge Tushar to really prove his methodology is to be
preferred//

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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:51:00 PST
From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: WHTMIT

  On July 29 Adam Hartfield said:
  >A four-wheel-drive turbo Subaru wagon is on my list of desired cars,

Heidi has an '86 GL wagon (4wd) and that car has been as reliable and as rugged
as you could ask for.  She's taken it down and back to Reno eight or ten times
and has only had one major problem with it, in Seattle one day.  It had 35,000
miles on it when she bought it in '88 and it has around 95,000 now.  Easy
keeper, that's for sure.

Chris
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:40:52 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Eating Whales
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On Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:17:00 MST, "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
 <WILLIAMS@MC.BITNET> wrote:
> Karen, is the word you seek "ambergris"?  AKA 'whale phlegm'?  (What a lovely
> sounding word phlegm is!)  Karen, where you at that you have whale meat in the
> markets - Baffin Island?  8-)

I thought we covered this a few months back.  Didn't we decide it was neither
phlegm nor intestinal, but something much more <unspeakable>?

G
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:12:34 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: My Mac can do these...
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              92 1:04 pm

> >a :flirtatious or seductive behavior
> >1: to engage in flirtation
> >2: to act or deal with something lightly or without vigor or purpose
> >3: to amuse oneself as if with a toy: PLAY
>
> Can you say the same of a mushy laptop? ;-)

	Actually, Anne, all the PC users are simply jealous of us having
so much FUN with our machines whilst they struggle along with the
prehistoric DOS interface, or even worse, Windows, which is, after all,
a DOS kluge.

:-)
Czarina
(Who has the gif of Nico 'n me up as my background screen.)