HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sbit37@uxb.liv.ac.uk (Paul Gould)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Sara's SF visit - a few quotes
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:32:46 GMT
Organization: The University of Liverpool
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler (pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie) wrote:
>In article <1992Aug23.025210.7954@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>, pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
>> 
>> By the way, in all the stuff about Grant's party, I haven't seen any
>> mention of the story that one attendee (not on soc.bi) was telling
>> about having an escalating arguement in a restaurant about whether
>> the phrase "to female ejaculate" was a split infinitive or a 
>> compound verb.
>
>Neither. It's a verb followed by a noun :-)

Is that transitive or intransitive?

>///Peter

Paul
--
Paul Gould                            ____              Dept of Biochemistry
sbit37@uk.ac.liv.uxb (JANET)          \bi/              University of Liverpool
sbit37@uxb.liv.ac.uk (Internet)        \/               PO Box 147, Liverpool
+44 (0)51-794 4330   (Phone)                            L69 3BX  UK
From: pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Plural porridge?
Date: 25 Aug 92 10:13:32 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <BtFKIw.72M@blkhole.resun.com>, sara@blkhole.resun.com (Sara Hopkins (Swamp Thing)) writes:
> 
>>For some incredible reason, Peter, I seem to remember discovering somewhere
>>that in Scotland, at least a century or two back, "porridge" *was* plural.
> 
> Or, porridge *were* plural ...
> 

Ewww. Smak!

///Peter
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Swamp Thing)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Introduction
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:38:05 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

zzaascd@meehpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) writes:

>Piccys'll definitely be me Clive.  Could you bring them to Norwich?

I have a set of Ellen's party photos which I shall bring to Norwich; so
folk can fight me and Clive to see them (don't keep all the fighting to
yourself now Clive!).  Also my SF holiday snaps.

Sara
-- 
 >{8-)     Sara Hopkins     (-8}<              _____^__
 Geography Dept.  Edinburgh Uni.  Drummond St. \ OOO/ / The Thing
 Edinburgh,  EH8  9XP,  UK. +44 (0/31) 650 2662 \++/ /   From
 >{8-) sara@geovax.ed.ac.uk (-8}<                \/\/ The Swamp
From: Drakon@cup.portal.com (HARRY BENJAMIN GIBSON)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Hello everyone!
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 92 13:42:19 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <185lmvINN4nk@smaug.West.Sun.COM>

Welcome aboard Lori.

First of all, <HUGS>

I wish I had some words to say. It's hard to balance your needs with every one
else's.

All I can say is <HUGS>

Ben Gibson
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Cool Spots for Bis (Was the War Between Us
From: cjohnson@zeus.calpoly.edu (Coe Salzgeber)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:04:54 GMT
Organization: Cow Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA

Elaine said:
>(Sara Hopkins (Swamp Thing)) said:
>
>quoting orc quoting me quoting orc quoting me quoting Pearl :
>>
>>>|why whoever (in what hot tub) could ever have given you *that* idea?
>>
>>>   Um, er, yeah.  Whoever indeed.  Though I will note that I did not
>>>swoon (saying "oh, swoon!" doesn't count), nor propose marriage (at
>>>least not in the context of the hot tub in question.)  Any reports to
>>>the contrary are slightly exaggerated.
>>
>>In that case, herewith an exaggerated report; you did so!  And so, and
>>so ... I was there, in that very hot tub and I SHOULD KNOW!
>
>ah hah!  I figured that eventually *somebody* would tell me the *real*
>story of the hot tub!

As i recall, the marriage proposal was pre- hot tub.  Orc seemed to be
mellowed out by hot tub time, so all i recall from that time was a couple
more swoons, and reluctance to leave.

>>Oh, and Elaine, I am not now, nor have I ever been, a pelican.  I'm
>>sure you know who the real one is.
>
>yup ... !

I'm sorry... feeling dense today (water on the brain?)... but i don't 
understand that reference... anyone care to enlighten me?

>but I do have some interesting pictures from the Monday lunch for and
>of you (some people will, of course, try to misinterpret that sentence,
>but they'll be WRONG!)  send me an address for your copies.

Me me me me me me!  Are you going to send me some too? (if i ask real
nicely :^) )  Sara developed her pictures from that day, and promised 
to send certain ones, but i suspect she may not send the priceless one 
of her!

<chuckle>
-Coe
-- 
cjohnson@nyx.calpoly.edu
From: pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Birthday Greetings
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:04:25 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <65178@cup.portal.com>, Drakon@cup.portal.com (HARRY BENJAMIN GIBSON) writes:
> The official Muffin Taster is having a birthday. Happy Birthday.
> 
> May you recieve all you desire.
> 
> Ben Gibson(who didn't get tasted when he was a muffin <pout, pout>:)

Why thank you, kind Sir. And if you didn't get tasted, here's a lick:

*lick*

///Peter
From: bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bi pamphlet - enough already! 8->
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:30:27 GMT
Followup-To: soc.bi
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <Btx8rC.753@ibmpcug.co.uk> gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>In article <10597@scott.ed.ac.uk> bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies) writes:
>>Do *I* count ....?      <innocent look>
>
>Possibly - you _are_ a *computational* linguist after all, no? :-)
>
>G

Well, I _was_ going to offer a fudge mercy-mission, but now I'm not as
sure ...    <sniff>

And anyway, I _self_identify_ as a linguist, I just haven't come out of
the closet yet..... :)
 


                             Bethan
From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: PlayGirl
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:24:40 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <1992Aug25.110612.1@oread.cc.ukans.edu>
matthew@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>In article <18018@acorn.co.uk>, osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith) writes:
>> Incidentally, while I was paying for my lunch I noticed a bearded bloke pick
>> up a copy of The Sun, PlayGirl and a Slimming Magazine. Made me just a wee
>> bit curious :-).
>
>	Stop being curious and go get your own, Owen.

Actually I was curious about the bloke, not what's in PlayGirl.

Owen.
                                     /
      +--+          +--+         +--/
 Male |  |   Female |  |   Other |\/|
      +--+          +--+         +--+
From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Post Norwich Blues
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:08:03 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

During this week I've definitely come down from a Norwich high with a bump.
(I knew I should have attended the internalised oppression workshop.) The
problem is that I keep feeling dreadfully isolated, because none of the
people around me know who I really am (except a couple, but that doesn't
help). I didn't cross-dress at Norwich, but that's largely irrelevent
because I know that if I had nobody would have minded in the least. Now I'm
back home I keep thinking "if I were wearing a dress, would these people
still be talking to me?". And whenever I here even the vaguest hint of a
joke about gays, cross dressers etc. it hurts me to the core. (The same
comment from someone who knew about me probably wouldn't hurt anywhere near
as much actually.)

Part of me would like to tell the entire world who I really am, with an "if
they don't like it, then that's their tough luck" attitude. But another part
of me just can't take the rejection, the insults and the humiliation that
I'm bound to get from some people. (And then there are worries about keeping
my job - Acorn seems pretty tolerant but all it takes is one phobe in a
position of power and I'm in trouble.)

I feel I'm at a cross-roads in my life. I can't stay where I am, because
it's too painful. I either have to bite the bullet and move forward, or I
have to retreat back into the closet. I haven't got the emotional strength
to do the former and the latter would drive me insane. So here I am, stuck
on the threshold at the point of maximum pain and minimum pleasure (or so it
seems).

Oh well, I'd better post this now before I turn into a Marvin clone :-).

Owen.

PS. At Norwich I was accusing Kay of being shorter than 6'2", with the
possible option that I was taller than the 6'0" I thought I was. Back home I
got the tape measure out and founnd that I'm 5'11". Oh well - it's a nicer
height for a woman anyway :-).
From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: hot tubs (was Re: The War Between Us (Long))
Date: 28 Aug 92 03:50:32 GMT
	<iw.714949436@tosser> <1992Aug28.031940.4882@rat.csc.calpoly.edu>
Organization: Natural Language Incorporated
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu's message of Fri, 28 Aug 92 03:19:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.031940.4882@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
>iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Sults) wrote...
			>^^^^^
>>And when are you going to buy that sling you keep talking about?

>[But Good Vibes doesn't sell slings!]

Romantasy (Moulton and Fillmore in SF) sells slings.

Muffy
--

Muffy Barkocy | muffy@mica.berkeley.edu | wi.4636@wizvax.methuen.ma.us
~Little round planet/in a big universe/sometimes it looks blessed/
 sometimes it looks cursed/Depends on what you look at, obviously/
 But even more it depends on the way that you see~ - Bruce Cockburn
From: osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Who am I anyway?
Date: 25 Aug 92 15:39:35 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <1992Aug25.005536.14816@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler) writes:

>Just *what* is punting???

You stand on the back of a rather flat boat - the punt (sort of like a cross
between a raft and a boat) and you move the punt by sticking a long pole
into the water until it reachs the riverbed and then you push. Sounds easy,
but steering while applying power (ie. pushing in the right direction) is
the tricky bit. Most people end up pushing a bit and then correcting their
course by using the pole as a rudder. This is very inefficient, and highly
amusing to the people not doing the punting. Watching beginners try to punt
is a world renowned spectator sport. Watching tourists try to punt is even
funnier, because they don't even know what they're trying to do or where
they want to go. Be prepared to fall (or get pushed) in the river too. White
T-shirts are very dodgy for the women - or a must, depending on what sort of
woman you are :-).

>>Oh yes, I dribble on people while I'm punting :-) :-).

>Could be exciting...

This refers to  the efficient "throw the pole up out of the water and catch
it at the top, throw it back into the water and catch it at the bottom,
push, and then repeat" technique. This is one of the fastest techniques, but
a fair amount of the river ends up in the air or dribbling off the end of
the pole. The chauffeured punt trips are much more gentle in their
technique. I can be too if required, but it's boring.

Owen.
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: the "oh" experience
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:39:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk



[Kay Writes]

[a remarkable list of events deleted - albeit reluctantly]

Ahh Kay, what wonderful evocative thoughts and images. After talking to
you at Edinburgh I wanted to talk some more (but then I met someone very 
special so I'm not complaining :-) so here's a big <hug> for you, that was
good stuff -- a real "thought snapshot". You've done what every poet tries to -
achieve -- to caputre the thought and feeling of the moment, but not only
that, you managed to vividly convey your image, wonderful stuff.

Clive (waxing poetical)

+----------------------------------------------+--------------------------+
| "When I grow up, I want to give up being a   |cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk|
| Journalist and learn how to write..."        |cliveg@cix.compulink.uucp |
+----------------------------------------------+--------------------------+
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Mr Right
From: pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 02:47:49 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey

tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) wrote...
>pclary@mushroom.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
>>woodhous@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse) wrote...
>>>   I was having an awfully long talk with Coe the other day,
>>She tells me that you managed to keep her up until 5am.  And without
>>even touching her.  Not bad.
>
>Aww, c'mon. Talking is fun - I quite often spend all night on the various
>phone/talk services available over the Net.. instead of getting my touch-
>quota filled |-)
>

Funny, I often spend late afternoons and evenings talking.
What an interesting coincidence. ;-)

Ellen

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Subject: Re: BEGINNING BI GROUPS -- INPUT REQUESTED
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:13:19 GMT

In <1992Aug28.012400.42617@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> jimdb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>[college GL(B) society is not very bi-supportive and Jim is considering
>starting up a separate bisexual group. He asks for advice]

One suggestion is to have a single society for all GLB folk, but have
different evenings set aside for different subgroups. For example, you
might organise a bisexual evening on Mondays; some of the women might
organise a lesbian (perhaps including bi women too) meeting on Tuesdays;
a gay male group might be on Wednesdays and so on. Make sure to have at
least one meeting per week open to all.

In this way, the society will recognise and encourage the diversity of
its membership. If a particular person does not feel comfortable in the
presence of, say, bisexual folk then that person need not go along to
the open-to-all meeting.

*Don't* create extra meeting in a bid to be PC. Rather, let the
membership know that anybody can organise their own subgroups within
the society. This way, those groups in which there is enough interest
will be created and will thrive.

You may even find that most people are happier in their particular
subgroup meetings and that attendance at/interest in the open-for-all
meeting falls. If that happens then it's no great loss.

Some subgroups will be created on the basis of sex/sexuality. Other
subgroups may be created out of common interests. For example, there
might be a GLB bridge group or a group which aims to publish a campus
newsletter. Similarly, there may be a bisexual socialising group and a
different bisexual activist group.

BTW, I've no idea if the above concept will work in practice. All I know
is that having just a single, monolythic, weekly meeting in our college
GL(B) society did not go too well last year. Eventually we recognised
that we needed to diversify and decentralise but we never got round to
actually doing it.


Ciaran.
-- 
Ciaran McHale                                                             ----
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.       \bi/
Telephone: +353-1-7021539 FAX: +353-1-772204 email: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie \/
From: chris@unicorn.resun.com (Chris Von Hendy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Gender confusion by name (was Re: Who am I anyway?)
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:50:44 GMT
Reply-To: chris@unicorn.resun.com
Organization: Metalogic, S.a r.l.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v3


In article <1992Aug25.134207.16757@brtph560.bnr.ca> (soc.bi), JB <jbl@mesaadm.cre.nt.com> writes:
> to a fairly serious question that might fit ok in a thread titled "who am
> I anyway".  Here goes:  I don't consider myself het or bi, just 'sexual'.
>  I am currently in a mono/het relationship that couldn't be better.  This
> is IT (if it lasts, which it may not, there's always that possibility). 
> But I wouldn't rule out having a lesbian relationship again, that was my
> entire introduction into sexuality. 

This sounds vaguely familiar. :-)
> I was minorly flamed earlier for
> using my initials, cause no one knew my gender.  Well sometimes I don't

Some of us have no one knowing our gender even when we use our names. 
If I had a nickle for each person on the net who mistook me for a
male...  This has never bothered me, if it did I could easily solve the
problem.  
> either!  I am the only woman in my department, in a profession that is
> mostly male, and I do guy things, but I'm not a tom-boy.  I'm fairly
> feminine.  This gets very confusing!!  I'd rather play poker with the
> guys, I enjoy male oriented erotica, but have feminine "nurturing" traits
> as well. I'm considered by the conservatives here in the office as a
> militant feminist, but that isn't true, really.  I can't imagine having
> children; what kind of Mom would I be?  Maybe good, maybe lousy, in
> general mommies bore me.  I've noticed only guys with this kind of angst,
> is it because women are "allowed" by society to be loving and
> affectionate, and men aren't?  Are there other women out there that don't
> fit in either way?  BTW, while writing this (at work) I have accidently
> Outed myself, or have I?  AAIGGGHHHH.
> JB
>

Nope, you are definatly not alone. 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Von Hendy            "If we shadows have offended,
Escondido, California       Think but this, and all is mended,
ncr-sd!blkhole!chris  or    That you have but slumbered here,
chris@unicorn.resun.com     While these visions did appear." Puck
From: zzaascd@meehpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Introduction
Date: 26 Aug 92 12:01:57 GMT
Reply-To: zzaascd@meehpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente)
Organization: Department of Electrical Engineering, University of Manchester

In article <1992Aug25.114503.49547@ccvax.ucd.ie>, pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler) writes:
|> In article <5880@m1.cs.man.ac.uk>, zzaascd@meehpa.ee.man.ac.uk (Colin Dente) writes:
|> 
|> > Ho-hum more for the MI6 file...  Then again, given the, errr..., proclivities
|> > of most of the British secret service, they'd just prove my eligibility for
|> > employment (I was even a Harrow schoolboy*)
|> 
|> Damn. I lived there for 5 years 1979-84. Mind you, you may have been gone bi
|> then...

Nope - I was in high school from 1979-1983 - busy being madly in (unrequited)
love with my best friend, feeling like I was the only queer in the world.
Trying to convince myself that the fact that I fancied Sarah Turner meant
that I must be straight, etc., etc....  A friendly neighbourhood Flynn would
have done me a world of good then...  Ho hum - yet another of life's missed
opportunities...

Colin
Hang on....
  Colin Dente                     | JANET: dente@uk.ac.manchester
  Manchester Computing Centre     | ARPA:  dente@manchester.ac.uk
  University of Manchester, UK    | UUCP:  ...!mcsun!ukc!manchester!dente
   ... Blatantly Bisexual ...     | B3/4 f+ c g+(+) k(+) r s
Hah - see - I'm not *that* lazy.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Joke
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:58:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.095801.49541@ccvax.ucd.ie> pflynn@ccvax.ucd.ie (Peter Flynn, Official Muffin-sampler) writes:
>In article <1992Aug23.014915.22503@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis) writes:
>> 
>> For the benefit of us Bloody Ignorant Yanks (tm), what exactly is an
>> off license?  Is it like a package store?
>> 
>
>Liquor licenses in the UK (and Ireland) are divided into those for
>selling alcohol for consumption on the premises (pubs) and off the premises
>(liquor stores), hence the term.

The Alcoholic Beverage Commission here in the fine state of Virginia uses
a similar terminology.  Places that serve alcohol on the premises have
signs saying "ABC-ON" and those that sell beer or wine that you can take
with you (there are no places other than government-owned stores selling
hard liquor in bottles) are marked "ABC-OFF."  A few places will pay for
both licenses and have signs marked "ABC-ON-OFF."

Twenty years ago, the ABC folks required a large red dot on the front wall
or roof of an "ABC-OFF" institution, but they don't anymore.  Some still
sport them, though.
--scott
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: another unsubtle coming-out idea
From: pwiebe@ecst.csuchico.edu (s mandell)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 17:31:48 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <1992Sep1.150951.19367@sci.kun.nl> Olaf the wild writes:
>Or what about calling collect from abroad to your student union, to
>tell them that you can't attend tonight's meeting because you got
>delayed half a day (stupid bank holidays - why just this weekend???)
>coming back from the 10th National Bisexual Conference, where you
>actually had no business of being because you're not British...

But what about the next conference, it's International, so it won't
work.

Steph (whose kicking herself for not going last year when it was in
A'dam)
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Big numbers
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:22:24 GMT
Organization: Eris's Restaurant

In article <18246@acorn.co.uk> osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith) writes:
>In article <10582@scott.ed.ac.uk> bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies)
>writes:
>>Y'know, the first thing Kay said to me at Norwich (after the accommodation
>>dubris) was 'The safer sex materials are behind you'.... and he didn't say
>>it to anyone else, either.... <sniff>.
>Hmm. He said it to me. Is there some sort of pattern here? :-)

Now, what possible motive could I have for clustering Bethan, Clive,
Olaf and you together? :)

		nice --10 bisexuality
		Kay


-- 
6'2", dark short hair, blue eyes, bisexual and horny as ....
Kay Dekker, Dept of Industrial Design, Coventry University, Coventry UK
37 Old Winnings Road, Keresley Village, Coventry   |B0 f t+ g++ k++! s+ e r p!
Phone: +44 203 838668 (work) +44 203 337865 (home) |Deflowerer-of-innocents
From: fishnets@soulsteppin.Corp.Sun.COM (Spanky)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Hello everyone!
Date: 31 Aug 1992 19:26:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: soulsteppin.corp.sun.com



<big breath>

Hello!

After reading soc.bi for a coupla months now, I decided that it was time
to take the plunge and de-muffin.  Everyone here seems like an extremely
nice group of people, and I wanted to get in on all the hugs ;^) 
 
I just recently came out to my dearest love, and boy, what a relief!
He has been extremely supportive and understanding during this turbulent
time in my life.  Reading your posts and other peoples' outings 
has also made it easier for me to understand that it is O.K. to feel 
attracted to people of all sexes and preferences, and that I'm not
a "horrible sexual deviant", unfit for human consumption ;^)

Thank you all for being such a friendly bunch! 
 
Emily
From: fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: alt.lycra?
Date: 23 Aug 92 17:05:28 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk (Arrowsmith) writes:
>Hmmm, the finger of suspiscion appears to be pointing at UKNet -- nothings
>getting through to my UK newsreading account (that's ... not, too complicated
>to explain) while my US one (good ol' nyx.cs.du.edu) is quite happily getting
>fed (and posted from....)

 Pfeh! And there I was hoping they'd let it through; the group's
existance (and a couple of messages) have got through, but only those
couple of messages. <sigh> And it's such an innocuous group, as well.

 Grr.

 -- Fenthe