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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Bringing munchies to France
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:39:25 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <markl.715106832@bucket> markl@bucket.rain.com (Mark Lilly) writes:

>Greetings:
>I am going to France in three days, and
>want to bring granola, nuts, salami, dried
>fruit, M&M's so that i don't get totally
>pounded trying to buy food with my withered
>greenbacks.  Will customs allow me to bring in
>ten or so pounds of food?
   Customs will let you, but you will be missing the best part of your
trip! It is surprisingly cheap to buy bread, cheese, and in-seaason
fruit in France, perhaps because you are buying  the bread directly 
from the person who bakes it. The $30-$60 you will spend on dried food
will go pretty far in France, if you stick to the basics. 

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Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:47:11 -0400 
From: Antoinette Powell <ap25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Perillo tours

Has anyone had any experience (either positive or negative) with Perillo
Tours to southern Italy?  We are thinking of taking the tour in November.

Please reply to:

Antoinette Powell
ap25+@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: wendy@sq.sq.com (Wendy Harrison)
Subject: Re: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Bahamas
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Distribution:  na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:15:29 GMT

>
>PLEASE go to the Bahamas. Nassau is fine, everywhere but the north
>tip of Eleuthera is fine. Cancel your  trip if you were going to
>Harbour Island, Spanish Wells, Current, or Bogue. But please,
>think and check before you arbitrarily cancel a trip.
>
>Valerie Maslak

Well, Harbour Island happens to be one of my favourite places in
the world, and I would dearly love to find out whaat has happened
there.  Has anyone any specific information?  Or suggestions
on how to find out?  

Wendy Harrison
wendy@sq.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Using AAdvantage Miles to (Stansted or Gatwick)
Followup-To: rec.travel.air
Keywords: london traveler
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:48:49 GMT

>In article <191@irsaims.UUCP> dennis@irsaims.UUCP (Dennis Hank) writes:

>>	My wife and I will be travelling to London (first time) in October
>>	and had planned on using frequent flier mileage to purchase our
>>	tickets.  Unfortunately, Amer. Airlines will only allow you to use
>>	those miles if you fly into Stansted.  

In article <1992Aug26.145008.7490@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>Really?  Hmm.  I can almost believe they'd do this to beef up traffic
>on the new Stansted route.

>I booked AAdvantage award travel just last night, SFO-Heathrow, although
>I had a choice of a number of different flights into Heathrow, Gatwick
>or Stansted.  The only restriction (other than blackout dates and a
>limited number of award seats per flight) was that the international
>segment be out of the gateway city closest to the point of origination.
>So I'm flying SFO-Chicago-Heathrow rather than SFO-NY-Heathrow, as
>originally planned.

>It's true that I'm using an award rather than mileage, so that may make
>the difference between airports.

The awards *are* the miles.  One must get the award from American
AAdvantage (by redeeming miles) before one can get the ticket.
(Miles --> Award ---> Free Ticket).  One can get the ticket directly
in the mail, but normally one gets the award certificate first.

I imagine the reason Dennis Hank has a problem is either (1) It is
impossible to make a "valid connection" to London Heathrow from
whereever he and his wife are, or (2) he talked to an AAdvantage clerk
who hasn't a clue about the rules about going to London with an
AAdvantage award. (Or, actually, (3) the clerk Charleen Bunjiovianna
talked to didn't know that one couldn't fly into London Heathrow with
an AAdvantage award, but I doubt that is the case.)  I suggest Mr.
Hank calls AAdvantage again and try to see if he can get what he
wants.
-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
From: aim@ocf.berkeley.edu (Ali Mirza)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Driving between Los Angeles & San Francisco Labor Day Weekend ?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 23:48:36 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

I'ld like to leave tomorrow, Friday the 4th, and arrive back Monday or Tuesday.
If anyone's driving either way, I'ld like to come along... Wopuld be more than 
happy to share driving and gas.

If interested, call 510/548-8320 before noon tomorrrow or e-mail before
midnight tonight.

Thanks.   
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
From: dusek@rtsg.mot.com (James Dusek)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:04:50 GMT

jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis) writes:
>gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch) writes:
>>If Americans are resented abroad, the resenters certainly seem to
>>keep it to themselves.  As a tourist, I've been reasonably well
>   I second this.  I've been in some dozen countries, and I can't
>remember a single occasion on which I've ever encountered

	I haven't been to a forien country, (does Texas count as
a forien country?) but I have had the pleasure to meet alot of
people from different country's yet. They all have been well
behaved, but none were terrorists, err tourists. That may
have something to do with it.

	I have been to Wisconson too, so I guess I have benn to
another country :)

James

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: pekka@tmt.tele.fi (Pekka Ahonen)
Subject: Club Med in Finland?
Organization: PTT Finland, Telematics
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:25:04 GMT

Anyone knows if there's a Club Med or any other Travel Clubs for
Singles in Finland?

Pekka




Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Narrowest street in Paris?
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 05:46:12 GMT


> > ... rue de le chat qui peche. 
> it's rue de la chat qui peche ...

Both of these are ungrammatical; "du chat" would be correct, or "de la
chatte" for a female cat.  Unfortunately my map of Paris abbreviates the
name to "Chat q. Peche", this being all the space that's available.
Presumably this means "Rue du Chat qui Peche".
-- 
Mark Brader, SoftQuad Inc.,			"Verbose better."
Toronto, utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com		    -- David M. Sherman

This article is in the public domain.
From: fishkin@aludra.usc.edu (Stephanie Fishkin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Date: 27 Aug 1992 10:51:24 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Anecdote:  A friend of mine was in charge of a group of undergrads touring
Europe (at least Western Europe) from my fine institution.  She told me how
mortified she was at their behavior towards the "locals".  For example, 
when ordering food, they made no attempt to speak a few phrases of the local
languge or point to items on the menu, rather, they would just say things
like, "I want a ham sandwich with no mayonaise" and then get mad when they
didn't good service....

Stephanie in SoCal

Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
From: andy@nff.ncl.Omron.Co.Jp (Andy Krantz)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Reply-To: andy@nff.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Computer Systems R&D Labs 
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:08:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.072533.26048@news.Hawaii.Edu>, teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.112325.22674@cs.few.eur.nl> knops@cs.few.eur.nl (Michel Knops) writes:
> >
> >Japanese tourists do almost the same thing, but they just take a picture
> >of EVERYTHING (and I mean EVERYTHING) to look at it a little closer at
> >home! Most don't enjoy the moment.
> 
> Agreed. Right now, Asian tourists are the only things holding up our
> local economy. :) :(??
> The pictures they take, they call "kinen shashin," which means
> "commemorative photo." It doesn't mean too much for them to go
> someplace, but to show to others back home as proof that they were
> there. That's why if you look closely, they never take photos of
> scenery unless the people are in the shot. This _proves_ the subjects
> were there in person. This is most important. However, they usually
> don't pose. Just standing there is all the proof the neighbors need.

You forgot to mention the peace sign. People, especially the women, that are
in the picture usually have the two-fingered victory sign (or peace) and a
smile.

When asked why the usual response has been a puzzled look and the words, "But
it's the peace sign!". When further inquiring as to why a peace sign all I
get are even more puzzled expressions and silence.

:-)
 
-- 
 Andy Krantz   andy@nff.ncl.omron.co.jp   \ Everyone stares at me 'cause I is
 Phone: +81-75-951-5111 x3691 FAX: 956-7403\ gaijin. I understand nobody and 
 OMRON Corp., Computer Systems R&D Labs    / nobody understand me. How could
 Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo Kyoto, 617 Japan/   I possibly speak for company?
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: afruben@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (RUBEN DELROSARIO)
Subject: I want to go to Europe
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 27 Aug 1992 10:48 EST  


Hi folks!!

  My wife and me are thinking about going to Europe sometime in 1993 (
possible Summer).  We are thinking of a travel with back-packs, jeans, 
shirts.  Maybe arriving in Spain and start traveling from there (we do not 
have kids)  We are thinking of being between three and four weeks.  
What are your recommendations?  Airline, where to go in Spain, France, etc.
, where to stay, motels, bed and breakfast, and transportation. (rent a car
, train, etc.)  I need all the info you can give.  Please, if possible 
reply by E-mail I don't have too much time to read the net. (You can reply 
in Spanish or English

Thank you in advance (Muchas Gracias) !!! 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: nvecchi@sangiorgio.cscs.ch (Nicole Vecchi)
Subject: Re: US Dual 
Followup-To: nvecchi@cscs.ch
Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico / CH-6928 Manno
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:47:21 GMT

This tax discussion no longer has much to do with dual citizenship
or rec.travel.

I am no tax expert but as I am an American (and Swiss) living and working
abroad, I file paper with the IRS.  If you're really interested in taxes
for work abroad (including specialty cases such as Saudi, etc.) I suggest
ordering the special package from the IRS.  If you're filing from abroad 
you'll probably still have questions; if you're just interested, it has 
more than you ever wanted to know.

Nicole

Xref: sparky rec.travel:12895 soc.culture.indian:30227 nj.wanted:713 nj.general:667 ny.forsale:1489 ny.general:291
From: subhas@titania.rutgers.edu (Subhasish Roy Choudhury)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,ru.misc.classifieds,soc.culture.indian,nj.wanted,nj.general,ny.forsale,ny.general
Subject: Airline ticket for sale
Keywords: Newark-Nashville
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:59:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


One airline ticket for sale. 

Details : Newark - Nashville (TN) on American Airlines (also Nashville -
Tuscaloosa (Alabama) by American Eagle if required, for free) for 
September 11. 

Price : $75 or best offer.

Contact : Das at (908) 932 - 4247 (O) or (908) 463 - 9228 (H) or send
e-mail to atidas@jove.rutgers.edu.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: slaveau+@CS.CMU.EDU (Stephane Laveau)
Subject: Re: Europe - Strategies for dealing with exchange rates, money etc.
Reply-To: slaveau@ius4.ius.cs.cmu.edu
Organization: Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:08:41 GMT

In article <l9njv5INNsfq@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, sriram@cremona.Eng.Sun.COM
(Sriram Ramachandran) writes:

|> * Credit Cards: 
|>   There seem to two schools of thought on using credit cards. One that says
|> |>   that credit card companies usually give you a more favourable exchange
|> |>   rate. The other claim is that places that accept credit cards charge 
|>   higher prices in the first place (to offset the fee they pay to the credit
|> |>   card companies) and this offsets the exchange gain.
|>   Any opinions ?

Any bank in France will charge 15ff = 3$ (a month ago) for a cash advance with
a 
Visa or MasterCard independently of the amount. It is obviously worth to do
that 
only if you withdraw a reasonnable amount of cash. It's actually quite simple:
The exchange rate might be around 5% better. You should then use a credit card
for any amount over 3x100/5 = 60 $. 

I do not know what are the bank's policy in the other countries....

Stephane.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: 6845400@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Brazil
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 21:05:44 GMT

Nothing personal but are you NUTS? going to a South American country
that is in eminent danger of having a military coup!!!
Besides if you work for Lockheed in any capacity you should check with
your Security department to see if they would advise it or not.  There
maybe some situations they might like you to consider, personal safety
being the upper most.

Kathy

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------


Xref: iscnvx rec.travel:15174 soc.culture.brazil:2292
From: bloom@ecfa.jsc.nasa.gov (Lynn Bloom)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.brazil
Subject: Brazil travel question
Date: 28 Aug 1992 16:43:10 GMT
Reply-To: bloom@hlpdsk.jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA/JSC Engineering Computation Facility

Hi, I am posting this for a friend of mine. Please respond either here
or by a direct e-mail to my account:


	We have been thinking of going to Brazil; Have our visas, etc. and are
	flying standby so we don't have to go there.  Due to the impeachment and
	government problems, does someone know if it is safe to go there?
	American news said there is fear of a military coup.
	  Thanks.

--
              Lynn Bloom                        LOCKHEED
       bloom@hlpdsk.jsc.nasa.gov      Engineering & Sciences Company
       bloom@hdaw2.jsc.nasa.gov          2400 NASA Rd 1, Houston,
          (713) 333-7717                    TX 77058-3799

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: bruceb@microsoft.com (Bruce Burger)
Subject: Re: Bumping
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:07:57 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.



The rules for bumping compensation apply only if you are at the gate (note:
the gate, not the checkin counter) 10 minutes before the flight is
scheduled to depart.

I don't know the rule for connecting flights -- whether you have to be
at the gate for each segment 10 minutes before departure, or just the
first segment.  Even if it's the latter, I don't know whether the chopper you
took counts as an official connection.  And I don't know how the 10 minute
rule applies in the case of delayed flights -- whether it's 10 minutes
before the published, posted, or actual departure time.  So there are
several reasons why you may not be entitled to compensation.

Nonetheless, it sounds like the airline should have exercised more common
sense and/or courtesy.  Of course, given the extenuating circumstances
of an imminent natural disaster, they can be forgiven a lapse.  Still,
it's reasonable for you to ask for the standard bumping compensation
(a few hundred dollars or a free roundtrip).

Bruce
From: futtrup@daimi.aau.dk (Erik Futtrup S|rensen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Taize, Community, France
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:01:22 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

You write in rec.travel:
>Has anyone been to Taize?   As part of my long service leave next year, 
>I want to visit  Taize. It will be in either September or October.

>If anyone has visited this community, could they please e-mail me 
>(preferrably) or post to network any information they have.  For example, 
>types of accommodation (cheap), their feelings re the visit, how to get 
>there from major city (I guess Paris?) etc. etc.

>I would be  most appreciative of any responses.

>Pauline Day

[I could not reach you (I think) through e-mail, so I hope you get
the letter this way.]

[for the interested reader, I can tell that Taize is a monastic
community of brothers from different Christian Churches and 
great gatherings of young people from all over the world.]

Hi Pauline,

The headline caught my eye while browsing through rec.travel, because
I live with 2 other Christians who have told my much about the great
time they had in Taize last summer. I asked one of them last night about
some of your questions, and I hope I can write down some of the things
she mentioned.

She said that in the fall-vacation, there will be especially many 
people around - at least many Danes go there, and it will be a good
chance to experience the atmosphere. It'll be from October 10,
but it'll probably be different in the other countries of Europe. She
also said that a fortnight to 3 weeks will be the best duration of 
a stay.

The accommodation is in tents with wooden floor and if you stay longer,
you can move into wooden barracks. The price depends on where you come
from in the world. Last year, people from Western countries paid about
7$ per night. But it is optional! You only pay if you feel you can
afford it! 

The big problem is probably getting there. My friends got there with
a 'shared ride' from Paris - I can get the address for you, if you
would like to have it - it is a kind of bureau which sets up the
ride with people, and then you share the gas. It is quite some way
out in the 'mountains'. My book from Taize says about getting there:

By road: Coming from the North on the motorway A6, turn off at Chalon-
Sud or Tournus. Comming from South, turn off at Macon-Sud.

By train: Take a train to Chalon-sur-Saone (from the North) or Macon
(South). Taize is serviced by a bus on the line Chalon-Taize-Cluny-
Macon which is part of the French railway system (SCNF schedule No.529
(in 1978))

This summer I was was driving a rental car to Barcelona with 3 friends
(we only had to pay the gas), and Anne Marie (one of the 4 students I
share a flat with) really wanted us to visit Taize for just a half
day or so - but we really were in a hurry; we only had 2 1/2 day to 
deliver the car - but I'm thinking about going there myself in my
fall-vacation.
 
I'll be happy to ask the girls other questions you may have.

Best wishes,

-- Erik Futtrup  (email:futtrup@daimi.aau.dk)
From: myrnat@skibound.Corp.Sun.COM (Myrna Taga)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: SF - Pacific Grill?
Date: 26 Aug 1992 19:45:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, WWFO HQ HR
Distribution: (null)
Reply-To: myrnat@skibound.Corp.Sun.COM (Myrna Taga)
NNTP-Posting-Host: skibound.corp.sun.com

>>(Verna Kalinski) writes:
>>Ok it's been 10 years.... is the Pacific Grill (out in the avenues) 
>>still in existence and is it any good?
>>tks.verna.
>
>Do you mean the Pacific Cafe, which is a great seafood restaurant with
>wonderful ambiance and wine while you wait?  If so, it is still there,
>and the locals tell me it's better than ever.  
>
>Vijay
                                       

The Pacific Grill is located at 500 Post on the corner
of Post and Mason in the Pan Pacific Hotel.  The last
time I was there, about a year ago, it was pretty good,
but the prices are pretty steep.  There are tons of other
FANTASTIC places in the city for the same $$$.

Hope this is the one you're looking for!

mat :0)
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Algeria
Date: 31 Aug 1992 09:01:43 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY - Algeria
============================================================
ALGERIA - WARNING
 August 28, 1992

The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to defer all travel 
to Algeria.  Terrorist bombs exploded in Algiers on August 26th at 
the international airport and at the office of an international 
airline.  A third bomb was found and removed from another 
international airline office.  These developments indicate that 
foreigners may be subjected to violent incidents.  U.S. citizens 
currently in Algeria are advised to avoid all public gatherings and 
demonstrations, because they have the potential to turn violent 
unexpectedly.  U.S. citizens should take precautions to avoid 
terrorist attacks, and be alert to receiving unusual packages, 
finding evidence of tampering with their vehicles, or seeing 
anything out of the normal pattern of daily events.  They should 
cooperate fully with security forces at all times, and should remain 
in close contact with the U.S. Embassy in Algiers for additional 
specific instructions.

U.S. citizens currently in Algeria should avoid travel to the far 
southern region of Algeria.  Numerous incidents of banditry and 
assault involving foreigners have been reported.  Bandits have 
robbed, assaulted, kidnapped, and killed travelers in southern 
Algeria.  The government of Niger has closed the main crossing point 
between Niger and Algeria for security reasons.

U.S. citizens currently in Algeria are encouraged to register with 
and request current information from the American Embassy in Algiers 
(Tel. 60-14-25 or 60-12-55).  U.S. citizens should be aware that 
only limited consular services are available at the U.S. Consulate 
in Oran due to reduced staffing.

No. 92-163

This replaces the advisory dated April 29, 1992, and advises U.S. 
citizens to defer all travel to Algeria.

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: ljk3376@zeus.tamu.edu (KEEBLE, LOUIS JOSEPH)
Subject: London--> Australia
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:43:00 GMT
From: greg@cs.washington.edu (Greg Barnes)
Subject: Re: Bumbershoot in Seattle this weekend
Organization: Adolph Eichmann's Evil Cake Factory
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 18:31:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.073959.7889@u.washington.edu> cyberoid@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) writes:
>If you're thinking of visiting, next weekend is the biggest:  Bumbershoot,
>our annual mixed musical festival.  Headliners include Little Feat,
>Michelle Shocked, and many others.  The best part, of course, are all the
>"little" groups one never hears about on the popular media.  It's a rela-
>tively cheap event (except for the headliners) and this is the last 
>weekend we can promise sunshine.  The ferries are great.

1.  It's an arts festival, not just a music festival.  There is dance,
theatre, book readings and signings, performance art, painting, sculpture,
as well as loads of great music of all sorts.  The organizers even gritted
their teeth and brought in one of those evil rappers this year.

2.  Assuming we're talking about admission cost, the headliners are just as
cheap as everyone else.  Admission is $6 at Pay and Save, $7 at the door 
for adults per day.  This covers all the shows.

Exception:  If you're really stupid, you can pay $25/day for a 'Quick 
Access Pass', which allows you to see shows in the two largest venues 
without standing in line.  Peons like myself with pay 1/4 the admission
price and sweat it out in those nasty lines, or just skip the silly
headliners and go see a play.

3.  Bob may promise sunshine, but I sure won't.

On an utterly unrelated note, the Seattle youth hostel is on Union St, just 
below the Pike Place Market.  Walk down the stairs from 1st Avenue and you 
can't miss it.

				Greg Barnes
				greg@cs.washington.edu
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