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From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What's Your Favorite Kind of Cat?
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:25:49 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

Old-fashioned Siamese - the 'applehead' type.  That's what Lady was, and
this morning at the vets, I saw a beautiful seal-point male of that type.
 
A local pet food store has a gorgeous long hair fluffy Holstein cat (white
with black splotches).  Unitl I saw this cat, I'd only seen short haired
Holsteins (that's what Oreo is, and his fur is very coarse.)   This cat
had very silky fur.  I'd love a long haired Hostein!

But, when it comes right down to it, I love 'em all (even my friend's cat
Chi, who'd just as soon kill you as look at you).
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From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: jellicle?
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:04:01 GMT

In article <18DEC199209453664@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:
>In article <1gqke4INN3po@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French) writes...
>>excuse me if this is a stupid question, but what the heck
>>is a jellicle cat?
>It's like a `gummy' bear... a cat made of jelly that comes in an assortment 
>of flavors and colors. Geeze, ya thinks *some* things would be obvious. :-)


Good lord, Stephen, can't you confine your sarcastic invective to
r.a.startrek.* and leave us poor cat lovers alone?  Gummy bears,
indeed ... :-)

(Besides, a true "jellicle cat" gummy bear would only be available in
black and white, so get your facts straight!)  :-):-):-)


--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:36:26 GMT

sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy) writes:
: Excerpts from netnews.alt.drugs: 14-Dec-92 Re: UL: Monumental LSD over..
: by Michael J Maryo @udecc.e 
: > thing that gets me is that even know we all know the effects and dangers (?)
: > associated with drugs, there are still a lot of us who do use them.  But the
: > difference is that we use them wisely and responsibly.  The knowledge that
: 
: Please, let me know how to take an illegal drug "wisely and responsibly"
:   I'm quite interested.

Just look at the people around you. There is a good chance that about 50%
of them are users of at least one of the illegal drugs. A person uses them
wisely and responsibly in the same way that a responsible person uses 
alcohol. Just because a drug is illegal does not make its use unwise or
irresponsible.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: C14383@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Marie Cannizzaro)
Subject: Fetch-aholic cat
Organization: Motorola
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:56:31 CST

My 5 month old Tonk Sam somehow taught herself fetch be bringing me the
foam ball one day and since then I am hounded by her to throw the ball
so she can get it and bring it back. She'll leap two feet in the air and
catch it in her mouth like a dog! And she wants to play this game for
hours! Every morning she wakes me at 4am by plopping her balls on my
face and she won't leave until I toss one and then forget going back to
sleep! She also brings me "gifts" at night. I wake to find all the balls,
all my Xmas village paper mache people, my santa hat with pompon, barette
s, watches--anything she can carry in her mouth, under the covers next to
me. I have another cat that lives with my mom and he has never done this
sort of thing. He doesn't play fetch either. Has anyone else had the same
experience?? Marie


Organization: Information Services, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:40:47 -0500 
From: Ruth Kline <rk30+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Asorbine for Flea dermatitis?

Absorbine Jr., the version made for human aches, has a high percentage of
alcohol and it creates a burning sensation when applied to any open cuts or
scratches. It was my parents' favorite "cure-all" when I was growing up -- so I
know from experience it hurts! I think a better suggestion would be a
germicide with less alcohol -- I know there's one that's made for
treating kids' cuts and scratches but I can't think of the name right
now. It doesn't burn at all. I use benadryl spray on my dog's skin to
help keep the itching under control -- but it only treats the itch
symptom, not the dermatitis itself. Peroxide applied to the skin might
be another suggestion, but it would bleach the fur and you'd have a
funny looking kitty. Flea dermititis is a big problem and I'm sure alot
of pet owners would appreciate a summary of any good suggestions you get.
-- Ruth Kline, Carnegie Mellon University
From: bryce_jasmer@next.com (Bryce Jasmer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cheap cat toys!
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:42:08 GMT

Andre' Maillet writes
>The crumpled ball of aluminum is Furball's next to favorite toy. She runs 
>from wherever she is currently napping to the kitchen anytime we get out the 
>foil for whatever reason.

I don't buy toys for my cat anymore. She won't play with them. The one (and  
only?) thing she likes is a crumpled up sheet of paper. I have a ton of this  
stuff in my box of scratch paper.

When I crumple it, she comes dashing up and crying very loudly. A quick toss  
across the room and she will dash off and fetch it and bring it back. This  
fetching can last for a good hour sometimes. And the paper usually lasts for  
about 3 days before she gets tired of it and starts shredding it. No problem,  
total cost is about $0.01. Can't beat it.

Bryce Jasmer (and Raven)
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats riding on shoulders
Date: 14 Dec 1992 05:51:42 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Sandra F Feldman (feldman@flash.crd.ge.com) wrote:
: One of my kittens always climbs up onto my shoulders when I pick her up.  She's
: about 6 months old now, and showing no signs of stopping.  She's very stable;
: I can carry her up the stairs on my shoulders and walk around.  If I'm concerned,
: I just use one hand to steady her or hold her tail loosely.  (Not too hard, 
: I wouldn't want to dislocate her tail if she lost her balance!)  In fact, this
: is Pooky's preferred method of being carried.  None of that "imitation baby"
: stuff for her.

: Sandy
 
That's right, it's a position of equality!
 Durin and Spike
(on Their human's account)
From: ederpc@rtsg.mot.com (Pamela C. Eder)
Subject: Re: Any interesting cat tricks out there? 8-)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:04:33 GMT

My four furry wonders are pretty "normal" for felines. (yah, i know,
who ever heard of a "normal" feline?!)  Anywho, one of my eldest,
Ruggles, a generic Main Coon mix, likes climbing door frames.  He'll
sit perched at the bottom of the door frame, looking like he's ready to
pounce.  He then springs up, with his paws around the frame, about 5 feet.
He hangs there for a few seconds and then slides down.  A real sight for
people who haven't experienced any kitty antics before.  He's done this
since he was a little tyke.  He's 12 now and as energetic and goofy as a
kitten.  


Pamela, Rugggles, Tyson, Scooter & Hobbes.



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   ederpc@void.rtsg.mot.com         of the tunnel has been turned off. Thank
   Motorola, Inc.                   you for your cooperation. 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb)
Subject: Re: declawing?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:58:28 GMT

> cs431109 writes:
> {some of letter deleted}
>
> So let's hear it from people opposed to declawing. What's better --
> the shelter or the declawing procedure? What do I do when my cat,
> who is not a dog, will not stop scratching a part of my apartment
> that I can't afford to repair and that will get me thrown out?
> How do I train a cat who will not use a scratching post and is
> fascinated by water coming from a squirt bottle? (YES, I've had
> one of those!) What if my cat is deaf and can't hear my stern
> voice? What if I have back trouble and my chiropracter said to
> get a waterbed? (contrary to popular belief, back claws do not pose
> a threat to waterbeds with proper mattress covers. I also don't
> think front claws are that hazardous, but I have seen my cat
> chasing air bubbles which could be a problem if she were able to
> get the mattress cover up.) What if I just saved a life from the
> shelter, but can't afford to take time off from work to train
> the cat? -- you just can't train *every* cat if you have to leave
> it alone for 8 hours a day! Do you want me to take the cat back
> to the overcrowded shelter?
>
> I'm sorry if I've ranted too long. But I just get annoyed when I
> hear people condemning the actions of people they've never met.
> Each person's living situation is different and each cat is different,
> so blanket condemnations of the declawing procedure are unfair!
> I just don't think the cat misses their claws as much as some
> humans think they do. And I think if we asked them, they'd prefer
> to lose their claws rather than their lives.
>
> Mary
>
> (Sorry, the argument at work was with a really obstinate person
> that I can't stand, and I just had to vent somewhere!)


I think we have flamed enough about this issue over the last week or so.  If
it's possible, you can read a few days back to see some of the various
opinions that have been expressed on that very subject by both sides of the
issue.

I really think that we should calm down in this area, and get to the things
we love... our cats!!

how's that sound??

*j*

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WE SAIL TONIGHT FOR SINGAPORE - WE'RE ALL AS MAD AS HATTERS HERE!!

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cs431109@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs431109)
Subject: Brushing Teeth
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:24:47 GMT

I have a slightly sad story to tell, and a request for some advice. Don't
worry, no one died and the cats are just fine. But we recently accrued
some hefty vet bills, so I'd like to share the story with other cat
owners.

I have two lovely cats: Carmen, a 4 year old Siamese who talks my ear off,
and Agnes, a 5 year old whatever with tortoise shell hair who never says
a word until she's in the car on the way to the vet. I guess Carmen says
enough for both of them. They are both female, both spayed, and both
perfectly healthy cats who eat dry food. I'm usually very good about
their yearly vet visit, but Agnes somehow slipped out of one for about 20
months. When I did get her to the vet, he found lots of nasty stuff on
her teeth and recommended a cleaning. So I said okay. Now, neither of
these cats will tolerate me brushing their teeth. Carmen puts up the most
furious fight, and it's hard to get a hold on a 6 pound feisty siamese.
But I didn't expect what happened.

The vet had to remove 7 of Agnes' teeth because they had decayed so
badly. He said she had probably been in a lot of pain. I wondered how
then she could eat dry food, and he said she probably swallowed the
pieces whole -- which would account occasionally vomit of solid Kit
and Kaboodle pieces. Agnes was much improved within a day of her
teeth surgery, and she even eats dry food -- although I switched the
cats to Meow Mix because the pieces are smaller. You should have been
here during the traumatic switching period! 

Carmen, on the other hand, has only a slight dental problem that requires
vet cleaning about every two years. 

I now have a nifty little finger-toothbrush and Agnes and I have been
having a battle every night. I've done what the vet said: I play with
Agnes for a little while, I try to sooth her with brushing her fer, and
then I try for the teeth. Forget it. I usually get one fang clean.
Does anyone have any good suggestions for how to control a cat while
cleaning her teeth? These suggestions are only good if they don't require
more than one person.  And what should I do about that little vixen, 
Carmen, who won't tolerate in any way shape or form the idea of having
her teeth brushed?

Anyhow, a suggestion to pet owners. They don't make kitty dentures, so
clean your cat's teeth.

And Agnes is doing just fine and is in fact much happier than she has
been in quite some time. I felt so guilty and thought I was a horrible
mommy to her, but the vet said some cats are just more susceptible to
dental problems than others. He said I just have to insist on brushing
their teeth.

Mary :-)
From: kjc7435@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.J. Cater)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: a very sad day for me....
Keywords: tears, tears
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:59:57 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: kjc7435@ultb

My deepest sympathies as well.  My cat Ginger (R.I.P.) died Dec.2 of a
heart thrombosis/heart attack and respiratory distress...I still wonder
if the clot had been removed would he have been able to make it, but
considering the fact that he was paralyzed from the waist down/it would
have only bought him a little more time I now feel I did the right
thing.

My parents went out and got another cat.  They have told me it is quite
therapeutic.  I first felt angry at their attempts to replace the cat,
but I have gradually become accustomed to his loss and now feel that he
would have wanted me to.  As to whether to get another cat for your cat,
it's up to you....if your cat is still pining away for another feline
friend, you might consider going down to the local pound/shelter and
having a look around.  The final choice is up to you though.

I hope you soon feel better and that you have a good holiday.

Best wishes,

Miss Kerry Cater.
e-mail:"kjc7435@ritvax.isc.rit.edu".
From: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Barre)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats riding on shoulders
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:24:27 GMT
Reply-To: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Barre)
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

For our cat Salvador, the shoulders are his favourite (and only acceptable)
perch when riding in the car.

He hates car rides - he meows, trembles, and sweats from his paws (little
wet footprints all over the upholstery). But he hates his carrier even more,
and much prefers to be let out while driving. The only place he will settle
down is on your shoulders - he'll climb up and drape himself across, looking
out the window. 

The only problem is he's not a little kitten anymore (almost 10 lbs) and
for long trips you end up with your head tilted forward in a very 
uncomfortable position; eventually he just slides right down behind your
back so you have to rearrange him every once in a while. And a shrill
meow in your ear doesn't help either (just to let us know he's still 
there and is still suffering).

- Lianne -
From: amanda@rana.usc.edu (Amanda Bischoff)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: whiskers
Date: 17 Dec 1992 15:57:09 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: rana.usc.edu

In article <199215.2246.4428@dosgate> "doug powless" <doug.powless@canrem.com> writes:
>        Hi all!
>
>        Well, I have an interesting situation with one of my kitt-, uh,
>        cats:  it's Muffin, and she appears to have a few whiskers
>        broken off.  In fact, when you have a good look at her face, the
>        numbers of whiskers on one side seems to outnumber those on the
>        other.
.....stuff deleted.....
>        She is not an outdoor cat and has never been, so that means
>        there probably weren't any humans involved.  (I say "probably"
>        because I have a nine year old son).
Um, are you *sure* your son didn't have anything to do with it?  Years ago
when my brother and I were very young, my mother discovered that our cat
Spooky (R.I.P.) was missing his whiskers on one side -- he had only short
stubs.  In a panic she called the vet, who suggested she speak to her
children.  Turns out my brother was playing "barber" with his safety scissors.

Amanda


From: John.Seboldt@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (John Seboldt)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Do You Have Three Cats?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:47:00 -0600

On 12-05-92, Lenore Levine wrote to All:

>------------------------------------
Do you have three cats (or any other combination of three household
pets)? How do they get along? Are they all friends? All enemies? 
Are there two friends who gang up on the third? Or are two rivals
for the attentions of a third?

>------------------------------------
We got Teager, our No. 1 female, at 6 months or so.  After getting her 
spayed and front declawed, Bugsy, a 2-year-old neutered male, moved in.  
After only a few weeks of spats, they are now best of friends.  Then we 
took on Leonard, No. 3, a 12 year old neutered male.  He and Bugsy get 
along fine, but Teager hates his guts -- always hissing and growling.  
Actually, now, over about a year or so, they will sometimes sit peacefully 
within about a foot of each other, even closer.

Leonard always stays cool about it -- the previous owner says he was 
always "persecuted" by the other cat he lived with before.  Leonard is so 
cool, you could imagine him saying, "I really don't understand why you're 
treating me this way... I really could be your friend, you know.  But if 
that's the way you want it... "



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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:56:12 EST
From: <BXB5@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Recommendations on cat doors sought

Can you recommend a cat door that keeps unwanted critters out.  We live in a
wooded, rural area and want cats (our own only) and not coons.  Any advice?
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cs431109@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs431109)
Subject: Re: Do your cats know their names?
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:09:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.223032.17763@inel.gov> kkv@inel.gov (Jamie J Ferguson) writes:
>
>All 3 of my cats know their names and will come (or at least look to
>see if I have kitty treats) when I call.  Most people find this hard
>to believe, and I was wondering how many other peoples' cats know
>their names.  Its funny because the right cat will look up and meow
>at me!!!    
   
My siamese Carmen definately knows her name. Agnes (short for Miss Agnes
Depesto), my DSH cat know her name and can even recognize certain
things I say. Agnes has this disgusting habit of liking to eat
bugs . The last apartment we lived in went through a short period
of minor silverfish infestation. All we had to do was yell excitedly "Aggie,
silverfish Aggie" and she came running from the other end of the apartment.
Carmen answers me when I speak her name, and she has inflexions in
her voice that are definately some sort of language.

I used to have an indoor siamese cat named Kitty and an outdoor Tuxedo cat
named Figaro. They hated each other intensely. Whenever I said the word
"Figaro" to Kitty, she twitched her tail angrily. But when I said her
name, she just purred.

I firmly believe that cats understand a lot more of what we say than we
think they understand. They just aren't going to let us know it!

Mary :)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hamon@a.cs.okstate.edu (HAMON SHARON ANN)
Subject: Re: Do your cats know their names?
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:19:17 GMT


Mini knows her name.  When I say it right it sounds like a meow.
She often answers me and we banter back and forth for a while. 

--Sharon
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: koops@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Luke Koops)
Subject: Traveling with cats?  A good idea?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:20:37 GMT


Hi.  I have two kittens (one is 8 months old; the other is 3 months), which
I was planning on leaving at home during the holidays (I'm planning on 
leaving for about a week over the Christmas-New Year's season).  I'll be 
making a 5-hour car trip to get to my destination (my wife's parents place),
and I've been toying with the idea of taking the cats along instead of 
having someone visit them once a day to feed them, change litter, etc.  I
have some questions about this, but first, a few facts:
  * the car trip will be 5-6 hours long.
  * the place I'll be visiting has _no_ pets.
  * the two cats get along quite well.

My questions are:
  * Is taking the cats with me a good idea?
     - will they get too stressed-out by the trip?  (I'd bring a litter
	box and food with me for the car trip of course)
  * Should I isolate them in the "new" house with their litter and food
    for a while, so they can locate both?
  * Should I count on having to re-acclimatize the cats to my own house
    once I return?

I can't think of any more specific questions right now.  Is there something
I'm not thinking of?


Any input, advice, etc, would be appreciated.  Please send email to
koops@gaul.csd.uwo.ca.

Thanks,
(the very confused) Steve van der Burg


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From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Any interesting cat tricks out there? 8-)
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:51:09 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

One of the cats peed on my copy of my 1991 tax return.  I only wish they'd
done it on the real one I had to send in....

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