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From: barrett@scooby.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: ARexx stem variables (records) vs. function return values?
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:30:36 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@scooby.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED


	Can an ARexx user-defined function return a stem variable?
(What we humans usually call a "record" or "struct". :-))

	I want a function to fill in the fields of a stem variable,
return the value, and assign it to another stem variable.  Like this:

	person. = ReturnStuff()
	SAY person.firstname person.lastname
	EXIT

	ReturnStuff: PROCEDURE
		guy.name = "Harry"
		guy.lastname = "Hosehead"
		RETURN guy.

In this example, I'd like the "name" field of "person" to get filled in,
so the program prints "Harry Hosehead".

	Is such a thing possible to do???  I'm wracking my brains trying
to make it work, and the answer does not appear to be in any of my 3
ARexx manuals.

	Please reply by e-mail, since our newsfeed is very slow at the
moment.  THANKS!!!

                                                        Dan

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From: jkr@ifi.uio.no (Johan Kristian Rosenvold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Interrupt (task) colour cycling blues
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:29:28 GMT

Time for another strange one from the deep dungeons at bug HQ.

I'm using a pri 21 task to cycle my colours on my screen. (it was
originally based on CYCVB but then that went down down the drain...).
My problem is that when I do an OpenScreenTags I get this flash on the
top of the screen like the title-bar is trying to break through. Now this
only lasts for about a frame or two and I'm trying to use 
SA_ShowTitle, SA_ScreenQuiet & SA_ScreenBehind to avoid it. 
As usual with my absurd problems, 
if I switch off my Colour Cycling task it won't happen.
My cycling task is NOT cycling the screen that's being opened, but it is
cycling the screen that's being displayed. 
And yes, I don't actually think it's the title-bar because the flash
seems to come far outside the set overscan region,- but it varies a bit.

The flashing white line I get one the top of the screen is Related to
my OpenScreen call. If I don't open the screen it doesn't flash.
If I don't open the screen I won't get the job done :-(

Anyone have any suggestions ?

Kristian Rosenvold, jkr@ifi.uio.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker)
Subject: Re: SASC 6.0
Originator: walker@twix.unx.sas.com
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:59:28 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Aug30.062657.569@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, chanson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Hanson) writes:
|>   Does it crash less? ;) I've recently discovered a tendency for CPR to up and
|> exit completely if I try to examine some exotic variables from outside a
|> function's scope... But I presume you've noticed this long before I...

Yes, CPR was CXERRing and exiting early if it got confused.  It no
longer does this, although if it gets confused, it may not be able
to display variables.

|> #define chanson Christopher_Eric_Hanson || Lord_Xenon || Kelson_Haldane 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: quandt@mcs213c.cs.umr.edu (Brian Quandt)
Subject: gadtools v1.3
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 02:07:51 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

Is it possible to include IFF's into a gadget created with gadtools
(that is directly within the gadtoolbox environment??)  I noticed
the predessor powersource allowed this, but I haven't seen this 
feature in gadtoolbox.  (??)  Also what's the latest version of this
program? (1.3?)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: InfoView
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:52:05 GMT

In article <SIE.92Aug28140811@introitus.fulcrum.bt.co.uk>, sie@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Simon Raybould) writes:
|> 
|> Has anyone got InfoView distributed with gcc2.2.2 working ?
|> I just get "Your terminal isn't clever enough" or something like that.

I had the same problem. Read the README file again. When it mentions Term
(the comms program) it says that you are not allowed to have TERM or TERMPATH
set. Go to your ENV: and delete TERMPATH. Do the same in ENVARC:, then
modify your S:User-Startup so that it says Assign TERM: <wherever Term2.3 lives>
That should solve your problem.

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From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:53:28 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: GCC and GNU? What are they?

clin@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chihtsung Jeffrey Lin) writes:
>Helwo,

>Does anybody know what GCC and GNU stands for? What knid of organizations

GCC stands for 'GNU C Compilter' and is a program, not an organization.

GNU stands for 'GNU is Not Unix', and is a recursively defined name. (Much
of what the origional GNU work related to was LISP based, a language that
thrives on recursion).  It is an organization that writes software that is 
then made freely available under a licence commonly refered to as the 
'GNU public licence'.

  A related organization, the Free Software Foundation is a group of
authors (Many of which are involved in the GNU project) that have a very
'Liberated' attitude towards software development.  One of the main
concepts is that they believe that while developers should make money,
that it should be the 'Problem Solving' aspects of development that are
sold and *NOT* some 'program'.  The 'GNU Public Licence' is a licence that
requires that full souce code be released for the program, and also that
any 'Derivative works' from those sources *MUST* also carry the exact
same licence (IE: All sources for the derivative package must be released).

>are they? How do they make money? Do they take from the rich and give to the
>poor?

  One company (Cygnus) that deals exclusively with GNU software makes their
money as 'problem solvers' and software customizers.  A customer can come to
them and say " I need a system that does this" and they are able to fairly
in-expensively provide that solution for their customers.  It is a very
productive way to deal with software development that just hasn't caught on
due to 'fears' that pirates instill into any developer that they won't be
able to make money unless they somhow limit what a user is able to do with
the software.

  The Amiga community is not used to a source released style of development
yet, and most 'Copyleft' authors on the Amiga do not yet make much money
this way.  I myself strongly hope that this will change in the future, allowing
Amiga developers to be more productive (Lessen the standard "We all invented
the Wheel" problem that happens all too much in the software industry).

BTW: The Amiga based networking software that I am involved in myself is 
released under the GNU public licence.

  If you want more information, please just ask.

>Jeff :)
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From: jim@teclogic.wa.com (Jim Newberry)
Subject: 1.3/2.0 Audio Device Problems?
Keywords: Audio
Organization: Tech*Logic, Inc. Woodinville, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:39:06 GMT

Pardon me if I've missed any discussion on this subject...

In moving from WB 1.3 to 2.0, a small application I've written
based on the RKM "Simple Example audio.c" no longer works.  I've
even retyped the original audio.c from the 2.0 RKM and I get no
tone, no errors.  Other applications that use the audio hardware
(Say, ProWrite) seem to access the hardware just fine, so I'm
wondering if there are some undocumented changes that got missed
in the RKM audio.c example.  I'm using Manx C, if that is of
any significance... 

Any Ideas?

Jim, jim@teclogic.wa.com
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From: heinz@edohwg.UUCP (Heinz Wrobel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re:  SASC 6>.0
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:10:41 GMT
Organization: Edotronik GmbH

In article <BtHqsn.Cyv@unx.sas.com> jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com (James Cooper) writes:
>>How about code probe?
>
>CodePRobe has changed a *lot*!  What do you want to know?

Does CodePRobe use the current system font now correctly? I had to switch
back from my A2024 display to PAL hires because the 5.10 CPR  couldn't
handle my courier 18. :-(

If not, I sure hope it has at least topaz 8 _hardcoded_ and doesn't depend
on it being default.

>Jim Cooper

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From: sie@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Simon Raybould)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: SASC 6.0 (food for thought)
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:45:23 GMT
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   Date: 26 Aug 92 13:07:32 GMT
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   In article <1992Aug25.221919.12437@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts) writes:
   |> In general, what is the average speedup for a generic program by generating
   |> 030 specific code?

   It depends on what the program is doing and how it is doing it.
   The '030 has a lot of new addressing modes, so if you are doing
   a lot of memory-indirect references it could speed you up.

   I got curious and tried the Dhrystone 2.0 benchmark on my A3000.
   I got the following results:

	 V5.10, 68000:   6362.7 Dhrystones/sec

	 V5.10, 68030:   7287.4       "

	 V6.0,  68000:   8039.4       "

	 V6.0,  68030:   8708.3       "

   This was with full optimization and registerized parameters
   in both versions.


What about the 68040 ?
There are quite a lot of amigas around with 68040's these days.
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From: walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Programming Tools (was: Amiga programmers UNITE)
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:52:25 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: walker@twix.unx.sas.com


In article <1992Aug28.204031.21575@ariel.ec.usf.edu>, stelmack@eggo.tmc.edu (Gregory M. Stelmack) writes:
|> In article <BtG4C9.F7z@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> engb@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Ben Eng) writes:
|> >GRROOOOSSSSSSSS!!!  It had better come with a decent make and a cc
|> >front end that feels like its Unix equivalent (hopefully with a 
|> >set of switches like -c -o -O -g etc. that act as expected).
|> 
|> Don't know about a better make (although LMK has always met my needs), but
|> better command-line switches are supposed to be there. Ones that are actual
|> options rather than toggles are promised. But why UNIX switches? I've always
|> preferred my SAS compiler and the way it works to my UNIX compiler (I do most
|> UNIX development at home on SAS, as it catches many more problems than the
|> cc that is on our Suns).

We don't supply a UNIX-like front end.  However, such a front-end does
exist in the public domain for the version 5 command-line switches;
this could easily be modified to invoke "sc5" instead of "lc", and
you'd have your UNIX compatibility.  It also wouldn't be too hard to
do one that invokes SC directly.

The new command-line switches are AmigaDOS 2.0-style.  Last November,
we took a poll of readers of our support conference on BIX, asking
them whether they would like a revised LC-like front-end, a Unix CC-like
front-end, or a new front-end with AmigaDOS 2.0-style options.  They
overwhelmingly chose the AmigaDOS options (although my personal 
preference at the time was UNIX-style options).  Since then, I have
grown accustomed to the new front-end and I like it a lot.

Virtually all options have a positive and a negative form.  No options
are toggles (!!!!).  This means you can set an option in the options
file and override it on the command line.  The options-setting program
(SCOPTS) accepts options on the command line as well.  If invoked this
way, it does not open its point-and-click window, but instead just
modifies the SCOPTIONS file to reflect the newly-specified option.
In practice, I find that I use SCOPTS from the CLI command line to 
set up my options, then virtually always I can compile small projects
with a simple

   sc foo.c

or

   sc #?.c


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.os.mach
From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Subject: Re: Amiga port of Mach MK74 available
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway
Distribution: comp
Date: 4 Sep 92 10:51:07

>>>>> jhi@vipunen.hut.fi (Jarkko Hietaniemi) writes:

> ======= WHAT?

> Mach MK74 is now ported to Commodore Amigas.

What's Mach MK74? Mk 74 of Mach 3.0, or...?
From: jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com (James Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: SASC 6.0
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:42:33 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Originator: jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com


In article <1992Aug30.062657.569@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, chanson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Hanson) writes:
>jamie@cdevil.unx.sas.com (James Cooper) writes:
>>In article <25440014@hpsad.sad.hp.com>, paulc@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Paul Christensen X3073) writes:
>>>How about code probe? 
>>CodePRobe has changed a *lot*!  What do you want to know?
>>...
>>What else would you like to know?
>
>  Does it crash less? ;) I've recently discovered a tendency for CPR to up and
>exit completely if I try to examine some exotic variables from outside a
>function's scope... But I presume you've noticed this long before I...

CPR is probably at its most stable state ever, with the 6.0 release.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: monty@sagpd1 ()
Subject: GCC vs c++ question
Reply-To: monty@sagpd1.UUCP (Monty Saine)
Organization: Scientific Atlanta, Government Products Div, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:12:21 GMT

	Here is a program fragment:

	int min =1;		// global min
	int main(void)
	{
	int min = 5;		// internal min
	cout << "min 1 is: "<<min--<<"\n";
	    {
	    int min = 9;		// yet another min
	    cout << "min 2 is: "<< ++min<<"\n";
	    cout << min 3 is: "<< --::min<<"\n";
	    }
	return 0;
	}

	The question is, is the C++ syntax for min 3,  --::min or ::--min.
	Gcc wants it the way in the example. Is that the correct syntax?

	Monty Saine
From: sysop@alphanet.alphanet.ch (Marc SCHAEFER)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Locking Window Input -- How?
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:58:34 GMT
Reply-To: sysop@alphanet.ch
Organization: ALPHANET Network First - Colombier (NE), Switzerland

In article <302@nsq.uucp> entity@nsq.uucp (cybernetworx) writes:
>Ok, I need to know how to do the following as I don't think it's supported by
>the operating system:

Yes it is. Close the other windows.

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From: ejames@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (ERIC JAMES)
Subject: Re: Amiga PASCAL?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: ejames@venus.iucf.indiana.edu
Organization: nothing
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:13:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.223414.9104@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp writes...
> 
>	Does anybody know if there is a version of PASCAL for the Amiga?
>(I know, I know C is much better but PASCAL is what is being taught in the
>class I am taking.)
> 
>	I don't really care if it is a commercial or a shareware version, just
>as long as I can obtain it by knowing it's name.
> 
>		Thanx in advance.
> 
>			Kyle
  You can get PCQ Pascal from the fishdisks ( I think disk 506&511).  It is 
the best implementation of Standard Pascal I have seen yet.  You can find the
fishdisks at an anonymous ftp site at 128.174.5.59  The fish disks are at
/amiga/fish

   Eric James
   ejames@venus.iucf.indiana.edu
From: castleaw@brandonu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Samples and BOBs, I need directions!
Date: 25 Aug 92 15:24:10 GMT
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

Hi everybody!
	Two big questions!
	1)  Where can I get a program that will transform my IFF brushs into
		C source code ( read I'm making BOBS!).
	2)  How much memory does a sample ( audio ) take up.  Is there some
		time to memory conversion area, and doe audio samples use
		chip RAM only?
	Thanks alot everybody, please e-mail responses to:
		CastleAW@BrandonU.CA
	or just post them here!

General Romeo
Terren Technology...
From: slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Query: Does SAS 6.0 support "inline" assembly?
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:48:19 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	THis is a question for all of the SAS Tech support type people that
have been posting so much lately.

	The question is this. In SAS C Version 6.0, is there a way to put ASM
coding in the actual C code? As in something like the #asm stuff in manx?

	I know that this particular idea is flame bait, so no flames please.
What I want is the ability to put similar code in the same file. For example, I
am working on updating a debugger. I would like to mix the display code with
the console code. However one is in Assembly and one is in C.

	Thanks,
	Joshua
	SLMT9@cc.usu.edu

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From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Manx C and Boopsi Question
Date: 30 Aug 92 02:12:06 PST
Organization: BBS

> That's exactly what I'm talking about. However, you have missed the
> crucial point, which is, the Manx library structure is different
> and more sophisticated than the standard Amiga (which SAS follows)
> library format. The Manx linker can use the standard Amiga format
> libraries because it mistakes them for object files and so includes
> the whole damn thing. Which means you get pages and pages of
> warning messages for doubley defined functions (some in both c.lib
> and amiga.lib) and error messages because you havn't defined
> library base pointers for every Amiga standard shareble library
> possible....
 
RTFM.  Use the +L option on the Manx linker and it will pull in only
the modules from amiga.lib that the program actually uses.
From: hemmer@hemmer.adsp.sub.org (Franz Hemmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Another Gadtools Q
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:01:36 GMT
Reply-To: cbmehq!cbmden!hemmer@cbmvax.commodore.com (Franz Hemmer)
Organization: InterActivsion
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <15857@star.cs.vu.nl> peraue@cs.vu.nl (Paul-Erik Raue) writes:
> willw@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (William Waring) writes:

> : KeyGadget(struct Window *Win, struct Gadget *Gad)
> : {
> : 	Gad->Flags ^= GFLG_SELECTED;
> : 	RefreshGList(Gad,Win,NULL,1);
> : 	Delay(2);
> : 	Gad->Flags ^= GFLG_SELECTED;
> : 	RefreshGList(Gad,Win,NULL,1);
> : }
> 
> Please, be very carefull when calling this routine. The RKM's state that it
> is not really allowed to change any of the attributes of a gadget without
> first removing it from the window. The routine described above can crash the
> computer under some conditions. I know, it's happened to me. I used a similar
> routine which would crash if it was called in rapid succession.
> 
> So if you use this routine, please add the statements to remove the gadget
> from the window before changing the Flags field and adding it afterwards.

But you can't selectively remove and then add gadtools gadgets to a window, this
according to the RKM: Libraries manual on page 411.

> Paul-Erik Raue (peraue@cs.vu.nl)

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