From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Turman (was Re: ND lovers / haters)
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:44:06 GMT

Robert Szczerba writes:

}In article <1992Jul22.191944.3650@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) }writes:
}>
}>Ha ha ha, ND isn't a football factory? Ha ha ha I can't help it this just
}>really breaks me up. That's like saying UNIX doesn't relate to computers, or
}>GM doesn't make cars. Ha ha ha...... That's a great one he he he he.......
}>
}>John
}>-- 
}
}Notre Dame is far less of a "football factory" than some other
}schools which I won't mention at the moment.  ND actually expects
}their athletes to have REAL majors (no majors in basketweaving, or Phys-ed).
}They also expect their athletes to graduate in 4 years just like
}any other student at the University.  ND's academic standards are
}significantly higher than the NCAA's so a player may be allowed
}to play by NCAA standards but ineligible by ND's standards.  Many of
}Notre Dame's players make it to the pros, but they are all students
}as well.  ND's starting Center this year is a Junior in Mechanical Engineering
}with over a 3.6 GPA.
}I'd like to ask why you think ND is just a "football factory".

You'll learn Rob (Can I call you Rob?) to just ignore Turman's blathering.
He mostly just posts to enflame.  Check this one out (I know you did)...

[regarding ND on NBC...]
}>>YAWNNNNNN who cares? If it aint the Canes it aint FOOTBALL. Who really
}>>wants to see that holier than thou a**hole coach kneeling down and chewing
}>>cud. Oh he's genuflecting? I'm sorry excuse my ignorance, after all I am
}>>a fan of those paganistic, devil worshipping Canes. I didn't realize he
}>>was such a holy man. One ND game on national TV is one too many, unless
}>>they get out of their chickens**t mode and agree to play "Da Canes" again.
}>>But why should they? They don't like to schedule a sure loss for their
}>>almighty team. It's sooooo embarrassing!
}>
}>First of all, if Notre Dame was looking to have an easy schedule,
}>why would they add Tennessee and Florida State to their schedule
}>and add Washington in a few more years?  Since ND has beaten Miami
}>2 times in the last few years I don't think Notre Dame really belives
}>that Miami is unbeatable.  Comments like you made just reinforces my
}>image of Miami and their program in general.
}
}GOOD!
 ^^^^^

and this...

[Turman writes with James Clyde responding...]
} >...how is almighty Gods own schools record against
} >these imposters lately? When did you guys last shut the Big Red out? Get off
} >your high horse it'll give you a nose bleed. You guys are just pissed because
} >the power in college football is no longer in your hands. It's now in the
} >hands of the Canes, Huskies, and Noles and your team is being relegated to
} >the back seat, pompous attitudes and all.
}                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
}The black pot rambling on about the kettle, obviously.

No kidding!  I have yet to meet a Notre Dame fan that even comes close to 
the pompous attitude that Turman displays in favor of Miami everyday here.
He ridicules other's attitudes at the top of his lungs.  Just read and be
secure in the knowledge that everyone realizes his words are the words of
a raving, blithering idiot.  I don't know about his football knowledge, but
I do know that oriface just below his nose (I'm making a large assumption
here.) opens up too much.  He must be pretty sour about those two losses to
Notre Dame in '88 and '90.  I wasn't going to post anything more about ND
for awhile, but this was just begging to be said.

Oh, and Turman writes:
}BTW Miami has the best uniforms, Penn State and ND the worst.

Yeah, right.

-Mike Noonan