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From: mwh@bdrc.bdrc.bd.com (Milton Hamilton)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Microsoft Mail Connection
Keywords: Microsoft, Mac, Mail
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:29:41 GMT
Organization: Becton Dickinson Research Center; RTP, N.C.


	Is there anyone out there in netland that have gotten the follwing combionation to work,..


Pathworks 4.1
Microsoft Mail 3.0 for Pc's
Microsoft Mail 3.1 for Macs
Microsoft Mail connection


	We've gotten everything setup right as far as we can tell. The Mail connection gateway that runs on the pcs seems to be working great. It picks up mail sent from the Mac side and sends it on the the PC world. The only problem is we cannot get mail to go from PC to Mac. The Mac connection is not picking up the mail out of the database.
	This is really beggining to get on my nerves. We were also unsuccsessful with getting the Mac client for PC based Microsoft Mail to work.
	CCMail is looking better all the time.(I hope someone from Microsoft sees this.)
From: chiam@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU (Ta Fuh Chiam)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Still problems writing to disk and file services
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:49:43 GMT
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>        A little bit of history first.  I created some file and disk services
>and everything worked fine for about a week.  At some point, quotas were
>enabled and I was no longer able to write to the services even though I had the
 
What is the error message you got?
 
>        I have created a file service on the second disk giving myself and
>group PUBLIC RWC access.  When I sign on to the file service using my VMS
>usercode, I can create files but I can't create directories.  My quota on this
 
What is the error message you got? Can you create directories if you login to
VMS?
 
>disk is 100,000 blocks so I know that isn't the problem.  When I sign on
>without my usercode (therefore as PUBLIC) I can't even create files.  This may
>be a quota problem but who do I have to give quota to?  I couldn't find
>anything about this in the manuals so if someone could tell me where to look,
>it would be greatly appreciated.
 
Again, what is the error message? If it is a quota problem, then give
PCFS$ACCOUNT disk quota.
 
>        Last but not least, when I create a file or disk service using the
>PCSA_MANAGER menu, it goes to the system disk by default.  Is it possible to
>change this to another disk?  I know you can use the command line to create a
>file service on another disk but I would like to make another disk the default
>when using the menu.
 
You will have to change the logical name PCFS$APPLICATION for application
services. Look in SYS$STARTUP:PCFS_LOGICALS.COM
 
Ta Fuh Chiam
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Ta Fuh Chiam
Ohio University, College of Business Administration / Phone: (614)593-2088
Management Information Systems                        FAX:   (614)593-0319
Copeland Hall 22                   INTERNET : chiam@vulcan.cba.ohiou.edu
Athens, Ohio 45701, U.S.A.            or    : chiam@ouvaxa.ucls.ohiou.edu
                                   BITNET   : CHIAM@OUACCVMB
                          Use my first Internet address if at all possible.
Disclaimer: What I have said are my opinions, not of anyone else.
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: johnson@ssvax1.ssd.loral.com (Christopher Johnson)
Subject: Re: Microsoft Mail Connection
Followup-To: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Organization: Space Systems/LORAL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:43:57 GMT

In article <1001@bdrc.bdrc.bd.com>, mwh@bdrc.bdrc.bd.com (Milton Hamilton)
wrote:
> 
> 
> 	Is there anyone out there in netland that have gotten the follwing combionation to work,..
> 
> 
> Pathworks 4.1
> Microsoft Mail 3.0 for Pc's
> Microsoft Mail 3.1 for Macs
> Microsoft Mail connection
> 
> 
> 	We've gotten everything setup right as far as we can tell. The Mail connection gateway that runs on the pcs seems to be working great. It picks up mail sent from the Mac side and sends it on the the PC world. The only problem is we cannot get mail to go from PC to Mac. The Mac connection is not picking up the mail out of the database.
> 	This is really beggining to get on my nerves. We were also unsuccsessful with getting the Mac client for PC based Microsoft Mail to work.
> 	CCMail is looking better all the time.(I hope someone from Microsoft sees this.)

This is a very obscure problem. The Mac is looking for file names in UPPER
CASE! On Pathworks the solution is to set a logical to the value of
UPPERCASE. 

$define/system MSAF$SERVER_VMS_NAME_CONVERSION  "UPPERCASE,UNDERSCORES"

This will fix your problem.

Chris

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From: FINDLAY@JII.AFRC.AC.UK (Bob Findlay)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Pathworks (MAC) print services
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:39:00 GMT
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Via:      UK.AC.AFRC.JII;  5 NOV 92  9:41:15 GMT

Does anyone know if there is a way to restrict access to a print service
to groups or registered usernames ala Pathworks PC?
thanks
Bob
From: chiam@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU (Ta Fuh Chiam)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Problems with PC and MAC sharing a file service
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:42:40 GMT
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>My question is: Does anybody know of a workaround to let the PC delete a
>directory that is empty, but has subdirectories that the PC can not see
>due to that the file names are to long?
>
>If there is not a workaround is not this a weak point in the integration
>of PCs and Mac that DEC ought to fix, or is it just me that has such
>problems?
 
There is no workaround that I know of. It is not a DEC or PATHWORKS problem. It
is a limitation of DOS. DOS simply cannot handle file/directory name longer than
8 characters.
 
Ta Fuh Chiam
============================================================================
Ta Fuh Chiam
Ohio University, College of Business Administration / Phone: (614)593-2088
Management Information Systems                        FAX:   (614)593-0319
Copeland Hall 22                   INTERNET : chiam@vulcan.cba.ohiou.edu
Athens, Ohio 45701, U.S.A.            or    : chiam@ouvaxa.ucls.ohiou.edu
                                   BITNET   : CHIAM@OUACCVMB
                          Use my first Internet address if at all possible.
Disclaimer: What I have said are my opinions, not of anyone else.
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From: granoff@keptin.enet.dec.com (Mark H. Granoff)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Restrictions on number of connected fileservers
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:31:30 GMT
Reply-To: granoff@ranger.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton, MA


In article RIZVI@CITI.CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Raza Rizvi x320) writes:
>Hi - Does any one know what controls the number of fileservers a machine can
>log in to?
> 
>The MAC SEs (4Mb) at this site can log on to a maximum of three fileservers,
>although they seem to be able to mount any number of volumes from those
>servers eg. I had 24 volumes on my desktop the other day.
> 
>MAC IISIs with 5mb can log on to at least six fileservers (I ran out of other
>servers to try once I reached 6!).
> 
>All the fileservers are running using Pathworks/MAC 1.1 and I can't find
>anything in the documentation suggesting that it is a Pathworks problem
>rather than a System 7.0.1/Chooser limitation.
> 
>Any ideas?

Looks to me like its the amount of memory on your various Mac's that controls
it, but that's just a guess.  My IIci has 8MB, and I've never had a problem
mounting volumes from multiple servers, but I've never done an exaustive test.

To the best of my knowledge, there is no limit imposed by PATHWORKS for VMS
(Macintosh) on the number of file servers a particular Macintosh can connect
to.

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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: egntoh@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Toh Guan Nge)
Subject: pathwork TCP/IP on Intel EtherExpress Card
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:16:59 GMT



Has anyone been successful in installing Pathwork TCP/IP to work on Intel
EtherExpress Card. I hv trouble getting it to run FTP and Net USE.

I hv successfully done it on a Western Digital WD8003 card.

--
Toh Guan Nge, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore
Internet Email: egntoh@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet   Email: egntoh@ntuvax.bitnet
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: QMS PS 410 as a shared Mac/PC Postscript printer, anyone?
From: Marco van den Berg <M.VAN-DEN-BERG@CGNET.COM>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:49:00 PHL
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Hi There:
 
We've recently bought a QMS PS 410 printer that we would like to use for both
Mac and PC clients as a postscript printer.  We would have to do this through a
terminal server.  I -think- I did everything the manual says, but the thing
does not work.  Copying a postscript file to the port from VMS works, but
that's about it.  The Mac side complains about the incompatible LaserPrep file,
that cannot be changed, while the VMS jobs cause the queue to stop with the
"Device unavailable" flag on it.  I've about had it with this thing and want to
find out if I'm fighting an uphill battle.  Anyone out there got this setup
working?  Advise and setup info greatly appreciated!
 
Marco van den Berg
International Rice Research Institute / Philippines
From: mcdonald@dallas.sil.org
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: All-In-One MAILWorks vs. POP3 clients
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:07:18 GMT
Organization: Summer Institute of Linguistics, Dallas Center

In article <1992Nov9.175501.13154@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, jmacdonald@mta.ca writes:
> We are considering pruchasing DEC's MAIL Works (all-in-one).  The interface is
> nice but the price is a heck of alot more than the POP3 clients out there
> (popmail).  Other than price (and support) there are two issues of concern:
> functionality and performance.  I would appreciate hearing of any experiences
> with these products - IS the price of MAIL Works worth it AND WHY/WHYNOT??????
> Thank-you for your help.

Price?  The DOS and MAC clients are licensed with PATHWORKS, so if you have
a Pathworks license, you have a MAILworks license.  You only have to pay
more for the Windows interface.

If you are also using PMDF as a mailer on your VAX, it also forms a very
nice MIME compliant mailer.

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Dan McDonald                    * UUCP      ...utacfd!dalsil!mcdonald
Dallas Computer Services	* Internet  mcdonald@dallas.sil.org
Summer Institute of Linguistics * ATTmail   sil!mcdonald
7500 W Camp Wisdom Rd           * SILnet    MCDONALD@AM@DALLAS
Dallas, TX 75236                * FAXnet    (214)709-3387
USA                             * POTSnet   (214)709-3389
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x.400: C=US; ADMD=WESTERN UNION; O=SIL; DDA.ELN=62897168
      include "VMS MAIL: DAN.MCDONALD" in text for automated delivery :-(
******************************************************************************
From: fuhrman@litsun.epfl.ch (Cris Fuhrman)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Macintosh Client VMS UAM
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:05:17 GMT
Followup-To: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov13.045939.21343@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, 
harris@ranger.enet.dec.com (ranger::harris) wrote:
> ...
>     String ID -4082 is the name of the folder that the AppleShare extension
>     looks in to find the alternate UAMs.  On my American version it looks
>     like the following:
>     
>     	:AppleShare Folder:
> ...
>     
>     But I would still suggest that you obtain the correct language variant
>     of PATHWORKS for Macintosh to go with the Mac/OS language variant you
>     are using.

The best thing is, like Bob says, to get the "localized" version of
PATHWORKS for your site. However, the "generic" installer script for
PATHWORKS should have been and could still be changed to use the above
information to correctly install the VMS UAM on any localized version of
the Mac OS. 

DISCLAIMER: One should not blame DEC entirely for this problem! However,
they could still resolve it in future releases. This was originally an
oversight on Apple's part (in fact, partly on *my* part as I used to be a
PATHWORKS engineer at Apple and wrote the original V1.1 script which was
turned over to DEC before the product was released).

Cheers,

-Cris
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 Cris FUHRMAN, fuhrman@litsun.epfl.ch
 Laboratoire d'informatique technique
 EPFL-LIT, IN Ecublens, CH-1015 Lausanne, Switzerland
From: lee@hsh.com (Lee Havemann)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Re: Still problems writing to disk and file services
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:10:44 GMT
Organization: HSH Associates

In article <01GR0Z1F4SB69GX547@SNYONEVA.CC.ONEONTA.EDU>, STROTHHM@SNYONEVA.BITNET (Helen Strother) writes:
> Hi all,
>         I am narrowing down the reasons why I can't write to my file or disk
> services but do not know a solution.  Sorry if these are simple problems but I
> have looked through the manuals and can't find any answers.
> .....
>         I have created a file service on the second disk giving myself and
> group PUBLIC RWC access.  When I sign on to the file service using my VMS
> usercode, I can create files but I can't create directories.  My quota on this
> disk is 100,000 blocks so I know that isn't the problem.  When I sign on
> without my usercode (therefore as PUBLIC) I can't even create files.  This may
> be a quota problem but who do I have to give quota to?  I couldn't find
> anything about this in the manuals so if someone could tell me where to look,
> it would be greatly appreciated.

Do a DIR/FULL on the directory you just created. Make sure that GROUP & WORLD 
also have the read, write and execute flags set on the file protection.



>         Last but not least, when I create a file or disk service using the
> PCSA_MANAGER menu, it goes to the system disk by default.  Is it possible to
> change this to another disk?  I know you can use the command line to create a
> file service on another disk but I would like to make another disk the default
> when using the menu.
>  

I have done this, but I don't have my notes handy right now.  If you still need 
it, let me know and I will dig them up...


>         Thanks for your patience with my novice questions.
>  
>                         Helen Strother
>                         Academic Computing
>                         State University of New York College at Oneonta
>                         STROTHHM@SNYONEVA.CC.ONEONTA.EDU

We are all still "novices" :-)

-- 

 Lee Havemann, Sys_op       HSH Associates          (201) 838-3330 
 Internet: lee@hsh.com    Compuserve: 70410,3507    AOL: HSH Assoc
 "Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of anyone else, 
  including myself."                     
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: dbk@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Don Katz)
Subject: LK250 driver for Windows
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:11:41 GMT

The problem:
  A user has a Powerbook LK250-clone keyboard. He is running eXcursion
under MS-Windows 3.1, and using the standard Windows keyboard driver.
Everything works, except that when he creates DECTerms from the VAX
are displayed on his PC, the arrow keys behave like numeric keypad
keys with numlock on at the DCL prompt - the up arrow outputs an 8,
the down arrow an 2, etc. When running EDT in the DECterm, the arrow
keys and the keypad act like the numeric keypad with numlock off -
which causes may user no end of grief because he has custom
definitions for all the keypad keys :-(

It is possible that the LK250 keyboard driver that comes with
Pathworks 4.1 will fix his problem - however, when I install it by
running WIN3SETU, changes are made to the System.ini file to make it
use the driver, but no changes are made to Setup.inf - so the user can
choose to switch back to the standard keyboard, but once he does that,
he has to run WIN3SETU again to reinstall the LK250 driver.

Furthermore, switching back to the default keyboard doesn't change the
SYSTEM.INI file back the way it was:
 - the line still says:

keyboard.drv = LK250.DRV

instead of

keyboard.drv = keyboard.drv

as it said before I ran WIN3SETU.

So...

Is there a way to install the LK250 driver supplied with Pathworks so
it becomes a proper part of the Windows Setup choices, and the users
can choose it like any other keyboard? 

Don Katz
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From: lee@hsh.com (Lee Havemann)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Anyone have a PDP on their network?
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:32:51 GMT
Organization: HSH Associates

Does anyone else out ther have a PDP11 running either RSTS/E or RSX
on their pathworks network?
  We use the PDP11 (running RSTS) to do several types of statistical 
analysis and then NFT the files to a PC and turn them into several 
different formats. Since Pathworks Version 4.0, trying to NFT files to and 
from the PDP has gone down to approx 300 bps, when in version 3, we were 
getting up to 26,000 bps.  There are various work-arounds that we are 
currently doing, but it is a pain-in-the-butt to do....
  DEC doesn't really care, as it is not an 'economically feasible' problem
(after all, how many people still run RSTS? :-)

  One interesting item to note:
If we are running NFT under Windows (in a dos shell or directly), the 
performance is great! 
  Under dos, it takes 30 seconds to even get an acknowledgement from the PC 
that the file transfer is taking place. and then it looks like the PDP is 
sending data in 8 block increments every 10 seconds or so. 

 I would appreciate hearing anything from anybody who has a PDP11 connected
to their network...

-- 

 Lee Havemann, Sys_op       HSH Associates          (201) 838-3330 
 Internet: lee@hsh.com    Compuserve: 70410,3507    AOL: HSH Assoc
 "Any opinions expressed are not necessarily those of anyone else, 
  including myself."
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE:410 as a shaac/PC Postscript printer, anyone?
From: Frank Sherwood <SHERWOOD@TCUFVMS.BITNET>
Date: 05 Nov 1992 10:08:36 -0500
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> Reply-to: A discuss
> Message-id: GQS8O22TU000086@ZETA.IS.TCU.EDU>
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>
>     One thing that caught us with PS810 and PS815 PostScript printers was
>     the PASTHRU attribute set against the DECserver port on the VMS
>     terminal queue.  If this is not ON (i.e. NOT No Pasthru), then text
>     sent from the PostScript printer is echoed back as BELL characters in
>
>     Alan Vos
>     Desktop Integration Group
>     Glaxo Group Researchi
 
 
Files in this directory:
 
  READ.ME       - This file
 
  TEST.DIS      - Distribution list for testing - sends only to SHERWOOD
 
  LISTS.DEF     - Alias definition file for easier use of lists
 
  LISTS.NOT     - Short reference for alias names
 
Neeley School EMAIL distribution lists:
 
  FACSTAFF.DIS  - All Neeley School faculty and staff
  ALLFAC.DIS    - All Neeley School faculty
  ALLSTAFF.DIS  - All Neeley School staff
  FTFAC.DIS     - Full time faculty
  TENTRFAC.DIS  - Tenure track faculty
  ACCTDEPT.DIS  - Accounting faculty
  FINADEPT.DIS  - Finance faculty
  MANADEPT.DIS  - Management faculty
  MARKDEPT.DIS  - Marketing faculty
  DEPCHAIR.DIS  - Department chairs
  DEPCOUNS.DIS  - Department Chairs Council
  OUTREACH.DIS  - Neeley School Outreach Council
 
 
Printable lists of Neeley School EMAIL addresses:
 
  FACSTAFF.RPT  - All Neeley School faculty and staff
  (Any of the above .DIS files can be printed as well)
 
 
This directory is maintained by Frank Sherwood
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Printing both ASCII and Postscript
From: DAN@WINROCK.ORG
Date: 12 Nov 1992 09:01:13 -0600
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        Yes, we print both ASCII and Postscript to a postscript printer and
let the print symbiont swith on the fly.  I'm currently using the Pathworks
for Macintosh print symbiont to do this, however, I looked at Scriptserver
by GrayMatter and it seemed to work okay.  One quick note about the print
symbiont for macintosh, you have to set the printer up as an Apple laserwriter.
 
Hope that helped.
 
Dan
DAN@WINROCK.ORG
From: RIZVI@CITI.CRANFIELD.AC.UK (Raza Rizvi x320)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Restrictions on number of connected fileservers
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:23:00 GMT
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Via:      UK.AC.CRAN.CITI; 11 NOV 92 17:25:35 GMT

Hi - Does any one know what controls the number of fileservers a machine can
log in to?
 
The MAC SEs (4Mb) at this site can log on to a maximum of three fileservers,
although they seem to be able to mount any number of volumes from those
servers eg. I had 24 volumes on my desktop the other day.
 
MAC IISIs with 5mb can log on to at least six fileservers (I ran out of other
servers to try once I reached 6!).
 
All the fileservers are running using Pathworks/MAC 1.1 and I can't find
anything in the documentation suggesting that it is a Pathworks problem
rather than a System 7.0.1/Chooser limitation.
 
Any ideas?
 
Raza Rizvi
RIZVI@citi.cranfield.ac.uk
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Windows for Workgroups
From: "(bachism)" <BACHISM@JHUDEV.DEV.JHU.EDU>
Date: 10 Nov 1992 11:15:10 -0500
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X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"LANWORKS@MIAMIU.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU"

I don't know about you but I currently have Pathworks for TCP/IP 2.0 running in
coexistence with NETBEUI and Lan Manager V2.1.  I would think existence with
DECnet wouldn't be too difficult.
 
My users access a file service from a Lan Manager server and from a Pathworks
Server with not problem.
 
BACHISM@JHUDEV.DEV.JHU.EDU