From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re. The need for Islamic state. Note state means "power of implementation"
Date: 24 Jan 1993 22:16:18 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <1993Jan24.202049@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
>
>
>An interesting point to note is that there seems to be no mention in the Quran
>of any necessity to create a nation-state called an "Islamic state". 
>The idea of an "Islamic state" appears to be a wholly human creation which
>took flight after the formation of the caliphates. I've not seen any injunction
>in the Quran which specifically calls upon muslims to create a political state
>based on Islam. In fact the Sharia or the so-called "Islamic law" appears to be
>vaguely defined consisting in the most part of laws which are at best an
>interpretation of some groups of people or individuals which over a period of
>time came to be touted as some immutable and almost *divine* set of rules/laws.
>
>There is nothing sacred about the Sharia inasmuch as they are not any literal
>part of the Quran.

Again, you have asked for the verdict of Quran. Here it is.
May peace be upon you.

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Note 1: 
Here the reason of sending the  Prophets. Note the words
	"prevail", "overcome", "ruler"!
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38: 26. o Dawood ! surely We have made you a ruler in the land;
 so judge between men with justice and do not follow desire,
 lest it should lead you astray from the path of Allah; (as
 for) those who go astray from the path of Allah, they shall
 surely have a severe punishment because they forgot the day
 of reckoning.


 48:28. He it is Who sent His Apostle with the guidance and the
 true religion that He may make it prevail over all the
				^^^^^^^^^^
 religions; and Allah is enough for a witness.


9:33. He it is Who sent His Apostle with guidance and the
religion of truth, that He might cause it to prevail over all
					^^^^^^^^^^^^
religions, though the polytheists may be averse.


61:9. He it is Who sent His Apostle with the guidance and the
 true religion, that He may make it overcome the religions,
				^^^^^^^^^^^^
 all of them, though the polytheists may be averse.

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Note 2: The above should have been enough. However, read on. 

	The purpose of revealing the books. To implement what
	is contained in them. Not that they should lie idly on
	the shelves
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5:66. And if they had kept up the Taurat and the Injeel and that
which was revealed to them from their Lord, they would certainly
have eaten from above them and from beneath their feet
there is a party of them keeping to the moderate course, and (as
for) most of them, evil is that which they do

5:68. Say: O followers of the Book! you follow no good till you
keep up the Taurat and the Injeel and that which is revealed to
you from your Lord; and surely that which has been revealed to
you from your Lord shall make many of them increase in
inordinacy and unbelief; grieve not therefore for the unbelieving
people.

2:213. (All) people are a single nation; so Allah raised prophets
as bearers of good news and as warners, and He revealed with them
the Book with truth, that it might judge between people in that
in which they differed; and none but the very people who were
given it differed about it after clear arguments had come to
them, revolting among themselves; so Allah has guided by His will
those who believe to the truth about which they differed and
Allah guides whom He pleases to the right path.


2:214. Or do you think that you would enter the garden while yet
the state of those who have passed away before you has not come
upon you; distress and affliction befell them and they were
shaken violently, so that the Apostle and those who believed with
him said: When will the help of Allah come? Now surely the help
of Allah is nigh!

57: 25. Certainly We sent Our apostles with clear arguments, and
 sent down with them the Book and the balance that men may
 conduct themselves with equity; and We have made the iron,
 wherein is great violence and advantages to men, and that
 Allah may know who helps Him and His apostles in the secret;
 surely Allah is Strong, Mighty.

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Note 3:

Penalty for those who do not abide by that which
has been revealed. 
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5:44 and whoever did not
judge by what Allah revealed, those are they that are the unbelievers.

5:45 and whoever did not judge by
what Allah revealed, those are they that are the unjust.

5:49. And that you should judge between them by what Allah
has revealed, and do not follow their low desires, and be cautious
of them, lest they seduce you from part of what Allah has
revealed to you;


 5:50. Is it then the judgment of (the times of) ignorance that
they desire?


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Note 4: Several injunctions of Quran can
ONLY be implemented with the state power. Eg. hudoods

I quote here only one. There are atleast four hudoods that
explicitly stipulate punishements that can be only
implemented by the state power
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5:38. And (as for) the man who steals and the woman who
steals, cut off their hands as a punishment for what they have
earned, an exemplary punishment from Allah; and Allah is
Mighty, Wise.


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Note 5: Promise of Allah to aid the Muslims in their
 endevor to establish what has been ordained in the
revealed books.
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3:139. And be not infirm, and be not grieving, and you shall
have the upper hand if you are believers.


47: 7. O you who believe ! if you help (the cause of) Allah, He
 will help you and make firm your feet.








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Note 6: The only differentiation between a true Muslim
	and a hypocrite is that the hypocrite tries to
	avoid the call of Jehad
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9:44. They do not ask leave of you who believe in Allah and the
latter day (to stay away) from striving hard with their property
and their persons, and Allah knows those who guard (against
evil).

9:45. They only ask leave of you who do not believe in Allah
and the latter day and their hearts are in doubt, so in their doubt
do they waver.

3:166. And what befell you on the day when the two armies met (at
Ohud) was with Allah's knowledge, and that He might know the
believers.

3:167. And that He might know the hypocrites; and it was said to
them: Come, fight in Allah's way, or defend yourselves. They
said: If we knew fighting, we would certainly have followed you.
They were on that day much nearer to unbelief than to belief.
They say with their mouths what is not in their hearts, and Allah
best knows what they conceal.





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Note 7: The only purpose of creation of mankind is to obey
	Allah. Note the above injunctions that are to
	be obeyed.
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 56. And I have not created the jinn and the men except that
 they should serve Me.









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Note 8: See why jehad is necessary
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22: 77. O you who believe! bow down and prostrate yourselves and
 serve your Lord, and do.good that you may succeed.

22: 78. And strive hard in (the way of) Allah, (such) a striving
 a is due to Him; He has chosen you and has not laid upon you
 an hardship in religion; the faith of your father Ibrahim;
 He named you Muslims before and in this, that the Apostle
 may be a bearer of witness to you, and you may be bearers of
 witness to the people; therefore keep up prayer and pay the
 poor-rate and hold fast by Allah; He is your Guardian; how
 excellent the Guardian and how excellent the Helper!

2:143. And thus We have made you a medium (just) nation that you
may be the bearers of witness to the people and (that) the
Apostle may be a bearer of witness to you;


3:104. And from among you there should be a party who invite
to good and enjoin what is right and forbid the wrong, and these
it is that shall be successful.