HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:13:45 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

>fashion: Calling the Keeper of the Stats!  Calling the Keeper of the Stats!
>
>	What's the 1/4mile time, 0-60, 0-100, and 0-60-0 times of the
>FJ1200 and the Shelby 427 Cobra?

I'm not the KotS, but I can tell you the 427 Shelby Cobra stats for
0-60 was ~4.2 seconds and 0-100-0 was ~13.0 seconds as reported recently
in rec.autos.tech.
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< Neal Howard                         | '91 Harley Sportster XLH-1200 >
< email: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org     | DoD # 686                     >
< CompuTrac, Inc. (Richardson, TX)    | '69 Cougar XR7-GT390          >
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From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:56:59 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

N07732_KRAFFT, KEITH G. (krafft@fnalc.fnal.gov) wrote:
: Is it just here in the midwest, or are Harley riders jagoffs all over the
: U.S./World? 

Let me see if I can explain this in small enough words for you.  There are
a bunch of assholes and jerks in the world.  Quite a few of them are attracted
to Harley-Davidsons for purely superficial reasons.  This is not the motorcycles'
fault.  Don't let the jerks who happen to ride HDs mislead you into thinking that
somehow their attitude was created by the motorcycle.  They were jerks before 
they rode a Harley and will continue to be jerks after they quit riding.
   There are plenty of good decent people riding Harleys.  You just don't 
remember them because they don't annoy the hell out of you.
   Let's see if I can draw an analogy that will restart a now quiet flame war.
There are some guys who are real jerks.  A lot of these jerky guys are
attracted to women with large breasts and long blonde hair.  This is not
the womens' fault.  Just because you see some guy with a woman who has
large breasts and long blonde hair does not mean the guy is a jerk.  
He might be, but he might not.  If this guy's sole attraction is to
the physical aspects then he is probably a jerk.  Likewise if some
person's sole attraction to HD motorcycles is because of the 'mystique'
then he is probably a jerk also.
   Don't get me wrong, being attracted to those things isn't bad in
any way, but if that is the only attraction then the attractee is
truly shallow and very likely a jerk.
--

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* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
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From: marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Honda 500 GP 'Droner' motor question
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:10:00 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:

>In article <marcl.718057659@os-d> marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis) writes:
>>
>>I'm tired of waiting for Kevin Cameron (noted American moto-journalist) to
>>write an article explaining how the Honda 500cc 'Droner' motor works (or
>>Yamaha's or Suzuki's copies of the Honda 'droner').  Anyone here know the
>>exact details, and feel like sharing them?  

>You'd probably have a long wait, because he explained it a
>couple of months ago in his Cycle World column, and he probably
>won't choose topic again soon.

What an airhead!  (me, not you Chuck)  I subscribe to Cycle World, and even
read it (or so I thought).  Obviously I could do better...

--
H. Marc Lewis                 |  Phone: (509) 927-5480
ISC-Bunker Ramo Corp.         |  e-mail: marcl@hela.ISC-BR.COM
22425 E. Appleway Ave.        |  or:  ...!uunet!isc-br!hela!marcl
Liberty Lake, WA 99019-9534   |  "Nature bats last..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Enough with the FAQ! THANKS!
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:27:24 GMT

root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.043626.6561@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>>neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:

>>>Say, that's an idea !!! Everytime some new reader asks what a DoD# is,
>>>it shall be the duty of EVERY one of us to email him/her a copy of the
>>>FAQ. 8-} Just kidding, no flames please!

>>Good idea, but it needs a bit of refining. For every newbie that's too
>>impatient/lazy to wait/search for the DoD FAQ, there's probably a couple
>>more without the guts to ask. So every time someone asks, everyone should
>>POST the FAQ.

>How original!  That ought to run my 20-22MB daily newsfeed up to, say, 40MB
>easy.  WWWoooWWW !!!   Then I can get the bandwidth of the month award, 
>that is the BotMA!!  I'll have to move up from uucp/PEP to 56KB or maybe
>even invent dial/T1; what do you think??  

>What we ought to do, is mail the FAQ to Blaine, for that suggestion! 
>   ...  talk about pidgeons coming home to roost!  Har.Choke.Spooosh.Snork!

Anyone got some spare fishing gear they can loan me? I'm running low on
hooks, lines, sinkers, and could even use a few feet of dock if you've
got some to spare. I considered asking Markb for some help, but then I
realized that with all suckers, newbies, and bottom feeders that he's
pulled in, he's probably lost so much dock space that he barely has
room to park his Katana 1400.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: creque@keinstr.uucp (creque)
Subject: Where can I rent ATCs(quads) ?
Organization: Keithley Instruments, Cleveland, Ohio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:58:12 GMT
From: swollny@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: HELMETS:Arai only
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:32:00 GMT


I was wondering if someone could tell me the real difference between
the Arai: Quantum, Regent, and the Signet.

I've tried on the Signet and it feels and fits "ok".  I wasn't able to
get a hold of any Quantums to try on. I was able to try on the Regent,
but in the wrong s wrong size. I needed a size small.  This brings up
another queastion

Helmet fitting?  I plan on road racing here in California at Willow
Springs Raceway, in Lancaster.  I have a Bell M-2 helmet which is fine
for the street, as long as I don't exceed 80 mph.(ie. it starts to
fall back at higher speeds).  So how is a road racing helmet suppose
to fit?  I have tried on the Shoei's, but there is extreme presure in
the center of my forehead.  My head also does not hit the top
(problem) So I will be buying an Arai Helmet.

I'd love to hear from you.  As this is my first time in this square
thing!  Ha Ha! I would also like to get some info on racing boots.  I
already have Fieldsheer leathers.

Thanks, Samantha (Sammy for short)
From: rtaraz@bernoulli.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline Blvd. (10/4/92, 1:30p)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:59:23
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: bernoulli.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: bushnell@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com's message of 6 Oct 92 03:35:13 GMT

>>>>> On 6 Oct 92 03:35:13 GMT, bushnell@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (William D. Bushnell) said:



bushnell> As I said at the top, I'm interested in starting a
bushnell> _reasoned_ discussion aimed at clearing up misunderstandings
bushnell> that motorcyclists and bicyclists have with respect to each
bushnell> other.  Please do not start a flame war or rekindle the last
bushnell> one that died off a few months ago.  I would especially like
bushnell> to hear from motorcyclists who may have witnessed the
bushnell> aforementioned incident.  Also, since this article has been
bushnell> crossposted, please note the followup groups in the header
bushnell> of your reply.


I think its a jungle out there.  The bigger vehicles screw around with
smaller ones (given a dickhead is behind the wheel)  

cars harass motorcyles,
motorcycles harass bikes,
bikes harass pedestrians.
big pedestrians harass small ones!

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: garnett@refuge.Colorado.EDU (Santiago de la Paz)
Subject: Laszlo's continuing, irrational love of BMW twins
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:46:00 GMT

laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) preaches:
>as was brought up in a flame war ages ago....you will see 20+ year
>old BMWs touring the states.....and i believe that will continue
>to hold true.....on my high speed trip to the right side the oldest
>bike i saw in bum fuck no where was 10 years (other then the BMW
>R100 that followed me across kansas slightly less then DoD nominal)
>
>  [and more deleted]

Laszlo, for god's sake, stop defending BMW already.  I happen to think 
that they're fine bikes, built strongly (and with a great sound, even if
certain people *did* compare it to the sound of a sewing machine 
throwing a bearing)-- but at this point, even the the most starry-eyed,
tube-headed Mao-Tse-Laszlo groupie on campus has to admit that your
nose hasn't been out of the hungarian BMW rags long enough to know
what another brand even looks like, and I would wager that all the time
you spend grinding down the cylinders of that beast of yours in Sunshine
canyon has fused enough synapses to the point where you can't even recall
what ANY bike less than 10 years old looks, or operates, like.

And besides, after that famous wild-eyed trip to Tennessee, I distinctly
remember driving around the back of the hotel in Nashville and seeing your
pitiful BMW twin crouching over a huge pile of oil, without a seat, 
battery, or reasonable chance of living through the weekend.  I'll bet
that even after all of Blaine "Binary-Throttle" Gardner's lawless
terrorizing of the interstates between here and Utah he doesn't do much
more than wipe an occasional small animal off a fairing or recharge the
batteries in that blindingly-bright imitation-sharkskin suit of his.

Relax and get back to work, or I'll tell Barb you're reading news again.

~james
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: passing on the right (was: Stupid BIKE
Date: 28 Sep 1992 13:41:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 14314@adobe.com, cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>In article <1a00m3INNb7t@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>}>Here's the California law (CVC 21654a):
>}>
[...]
>}>
>}There's also a clause in there somewhere that nothing can force the
>}operator of a motor vehicle to break the law, so driving at 55 in the
>}far left lane when traffic is averaging 70 is perfectly legal.  Driving
>
>No, it is *NOT* perfectly legal. Read the law above carefully.
>The "normal speed of traffic" in your example is 70. Is the
>vehicle in your example "proceeding...at a speed less than the
>normal speed of traffic"? Yes, s/he is going 55. What does the
>law then mandate? That the vehicle "shall be driven in the
>right-hand lane".

What Chuck quoted is *not* the entire law.  I no longer have my CVC
because, well, I don't drive in CA anymore, or I would site you the
code.

Believe me, 25 traffic school students spent an hour trying to argue
just what you claimed.  The fact of the matter is that doing 55 in
*any* lane, regardless of the ambiant traffic speed, is *not* illegal,
and you *cannot* be ticketed for it.

It is stupid, it is unsafe, and it is dangerous, but it is legal.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 0-60-0, cage vs. bike (was: More gasohol)
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:38:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <6918@transfer.stratus.com>, cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson) writes:

] It is my guess that in a drag race, the bikes have it due to greater
] "launchability". However, in a highway roll-on it would indeed be
] a close race.

Your guess is wrong.  Bikes are harder to launch, due to their
propensity to wheelie and try to pound the rider headfirst into the
ground.  So, no matter how you cut it, the car is toast. 

                                            Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:26:27 GMT

In article <txd.717886079@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
|Ayep, and the Concours doesn't get a mention either... Funny, a ZX-10
|motor,....

  Sure *is* funny, since the Concours has a 1000 Ninja motor, which ain't
quite the same as a ZX-10 motor...  Just to pick a nit... :-)

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers)
Subject: Re: Harley Fashionable == Deaths
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:12:54 GMT
Summary: Harley envy

In article <jlp.718387429@wink>, jlp@blink.att.com (Jon Peticolas(x7058)) writes:
> daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
> >A young guy gets a Harley to make a fashion statement, with no idea of 
> >how to ride, goes fast in a straight line, gets to a curve and what happens
> >next?
> 
> He leans into the turn, cruises through it like he's on rails, and
> continues on his merry way.

Meanwhile, back at the curve, several spectators pass out from 
from the sheer ecstasy of being witness to such an elemental
exhibition of controlled coolnesss, seven observers of various 
ages and sexes run down to the nearest Harley shop to place bike 
orders, fourteen experienced motorcyclists grin knowingly at each 
other, eight old-timer riders nod sagely and murmur, "Yep, that's the
right sound, it sure is," four GWRRA members rush off in a frenzy
to buy some more doo-dads for their land yachts, a helicopter appears
overhead and the Swedish Bikini Parachute Team touches down and
immediately begins kissing the still-warm tire marks left by the
rumbling motorcycle, and somewhere down the road, the corners of the 
FXRS-Convertible rider's mouth twitch upward into a serene,
knowing smile, as rider and machine flow smoothly across the
undulating two-lane strip toward the next waiting curve.


Vrrroooom.

Chuck Rogers
car377@druhi.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: llane@javelin.sim.es.com (Laura Lane)
Subject: anaheim motorcycle convention
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:20:23 GMT

Does anyone know approximately when the next motorcycle convention will be 
held at the Anaheim, Ca. Convention Center?  I would like schedule my
vacation around this time so I could visit family and attend the convention.
Do they still have this.... it's been about 6 years since I last attended
this convention. BTW for those of you who don't know about this convention,
its fairly large (L.A. is larger), manufactuers get together and show the
usual new models, however venders for ridding apparel also attend and give
great values on new and discontinued iteams. 6 yrs ago I picked up my
$500.00 jacket for just $120.00, of course I had to wait almost 6 months til
the convention for this jacket. 

Thanks for any information you can give me.

Laura
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Followup-To: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org
Summary: Signal to Noise Contribution
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 13:27:23 GMT

In article <1aq1ptINNouj@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 1adv00INNmas@bigboote.WPI.EDU, ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick) writes:

>>	i am one of those
>>	people who doesnt read this newsgroup (the snr is too high).  

>
>A succinct and laconic analysys!  This group need more noise!
>

Ed, you hit it right on the head (keyboard?)!  Let me be the first to
help your work toward your snr goal!  

You are going to get another bike one of these days, aren't you?

>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,


Charlie Smith   csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Electric accessories, Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Date: 05 Oct 92 09:11:48 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In rec.motorcycles dlm1247@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
;I have yet to find a detector that runs well on a battery.  And
;to me it seems easier to use the bikes own power.

That's great if your bike provides it.  Has anybody had
any luck rigging up an accessory power supply on a bike
that doesn't have one built in?  I bought a radar detector
recently after being nabbed by a roving tax collector (tm)
but had to return it when I discovered there were zero (0)
spare power lines on my bike.  I asked the local Yamaha
dealer (the bike is an FZR1000) and he was totally clueless.
Can I just splice a couple of wires and a fuse onto, say, 
the headlight lines where they come out of the fusebox?
Is there anything I should look out for (I know little or
nothing about electrics)?

I suppose there may be an accessory supply already in the
bike somewhere, but I couldn't find anything like it (I
even stared at the schematics for a while).  Any FZR owners
have a clue?

---
chris
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady)
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:58:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dirtbags 'R Us, Inc

With my current contract @ HP, it's about 45 miles/day. I've had commutes of up
to 95 miles/day. Unfortunately, I don't always commute on the bike since I have to
take the kids to day care (and during the winter, I rather prang the cage than
the bike ;-)

--pete

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Pete Brady                              EMAIL: brady_p@apollo.hp.com
Dirtbag Contractor from Hell(tm)        PHONE: 508-436-5226

DoD #5831 -- '92 CBR600F2 -- Any FLH's looking for a home, contact me...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Impressions of Factories (Was: K75 counterbalancer?)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:14:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.202104.15473@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>                                      ^^^^^^^^^^
>Is this a slip, or a comment on BMW engineering?  :-)

That comment made me think back on my visits to BMW engineering in Munich
and the factory in Berlin. Part of my positive view of BMW's is no doubt
having met some people, seen their facilities and tasted their corporate 
culture.

I've been to Japan a few times and and I guess I've been too freaked out
to contemplate seeing the bike makers there. I do plan to visit the Harley 
place in PA on a trip next spring.

How about other folks' experiences? Any of the FJ enthusiasts been to 
visit Yamaha? Where are they made anyway?

-John
============================================================================
                            John S. Morris  #0316
  Open Software Foundation - 11 Cambridge Centre - Cambridge, MA 02142 USA
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
                           Ride: K100RS Cage: 320i
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:20:01 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Being a Contractor (read Filthy Capitalistiic Lazy Scumbagger) I change my jobs
far more regularly than I change my bikes.  (Had Kay for more than three years
now...)  My commute distance at the moment is about 6.63 miles each way.  I
nearly always go on the M4 (read Highway to hell) as I like to exceed the DoD
minimum at least four times a day.  

The longest I have commuted daily was 66 miles each way, down the wonderful 
Fosse Way, Swindon to Warwick.  (Done on my now stolen FJ1200 - it's funny when
you have to slow down to overtake vehicles, isn't it?!)

BTW, I have revised my earlier budget estimate for a new helmet back to 200 
pounds!  Sorry for the tyop.


Nick (the Not Quite Perfect Always Biker)  MAG 73516  DoD 1069  Concise Oxford

M'Lud.
From: v058l789@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I AM the Nighthawk)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tripping Signal Lights
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep30.151940.1097@elektro.cmhnet.org>, root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes...
>In article <UelbsI_00Uh7E5_tsR@andrew.cmu.edu> John Robert Nadzam <jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>  >>Ride your bike over Ed Green, former Ninjaite 
>> This really must suck for you Ed.
>Some people get their thrills is awfully funny ways ...
> 
>>I still can't figure out how riding over ED will help trigger the
>>signal. And what about all of us who happen to be riding withoput Ed.?
> 
>It has to do with whether Leo is in your mid-heaven when you ride over Ed,
>consider:  it is possible to generate a cosmic aura if you ride over Ed
>fast enough, which is stored in the outer valence electrons of the U238
>used to line your muffler bearings; this stored cosmic energy will then
>generate enough of a field to trip any signal light within two blocks!
>I'll bet you didn't realize that!  So there.
> 

	
WARNING---- To successfully create the field above, serious care MUST be taken.
The type of magnetic field you are talking about will cause the iron in your
blood (Hemoglobin) to be magnitized, this resulting in Dr. Prostates anomly--
better know as The Spinning Sperm disease which cause children to be born
dizzy and disoriented.  Many stay this way throughout their teenage years...
I know, I was one.  
	BTW- I order to even THINK of creating a magnetic field this large, one
MUST check the tire fluid level and the headlight pressure....


						Ethan Bowerman
						DoD #682
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:18:54 GMT
Subject: Re: Steamboat Weekend
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA