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From: GD.SAR@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sandy Rockowitz)
Subject: running OS/2 2.0 on LAN
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:31:43 GMT

Folks,

I have a situation where we would like to bring OS/2 up for
evaluation on a number of systems.  Unfortunately, few have
sufficient disk space available.  The systems are, however,
connected to a LAN.

Has anyone had experience running OS/2 from a LAN with LAN Server?
It would seem to me that if the server had 16 MB that most of
the commonly used OS/2 files could be kept in the cache for
quick access, and the loss of speed due to the LAN would be
more than compensated for by the fact that reading in most
disk files would not require LAN access.

Are there any guidelines as to which files to put on a server and
which should be local?

Sandy Rockowitz
gd.sar@forsythe.stanford.edu
From: itreleav@fraser.sfu.ca (Ian Anthony Treleaven)
Subject: Re: First Impressions
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 21:02:25 GMT

I've been running OS/2 2.0 GA for a couple of days now.  I'm not sure if I
have some settings set strangely, but when I open, for example, the DOS
Programs group (correct word?), the window opens, but it goes behind any
currently open windows.  Usually I want to do something with a window when
I open it :-)  Also, it I have a partially covered icon and I select it, it
is not brought to the front - I suspect it should be. 

Any ideas?  Thanks.
-- 
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  Ian Treleaven            | No matter where you go, there you are.
  itreleav@sfu.ca          |                                   -Buckaroo Banzai
From: rcook@wimpy.helios.nd.edu (robert cook)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IBM, are you listening? (Was: Windoze 3.1 is here.)
Keywords: Yesterday(4 April) I saw Windoze 3.1 for sale here.
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:08:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr7.220837.6958
Reply-To: Cook.14@nd.edu (R. Kelley Cook)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame

In article <1992Apr7.084444.14910@cs.brown.edu>, wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni) writes:
|> 
|> I can't help but ask: why do you guys want OS/2 2.0 to outsell
|> Windows 3.1? I've never seen a UNIX guy getting frustrated because
|> UNIX does not dominate the PC market.  They just pride themselves.
|> 

Mainly, because most UNIX guys weren't convinced to switch to UNIX
by Microsoft and then abandoned like an dead elephant after the
poacher takes his tusks ($2600 for the development program).  
We OS/2 folks have been.

However, this wild kingdom apparently has a happy ending...It appears
that there is an elephant heaven run by Saint IBM, which has answered 
our prayers, supplied a truly magnificent OS for *peanuts* and with it 
the power to stomp on our mentor which used to step all over us. 
Remember an elephant never forgets!!

OS/2 is dead! Long live OS/2! (with apologies to Mr. Kunzman's sig)

|> 
|> Wen-Chun Ni

-- 
Robert Kelley Cook     << Cook.14@nd.edu >>
Univ. of Notre Dame     The future for Intel computers arrived March 31!
Physics Dept.            Long Live the new OS/2!  Time to close the Windows! 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (Toby Everett)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 "Buglet" Report
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:43:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.121759.22952@eve.wright.edu> slam@eve.wright.edu (Sau Chun Lam) writes:
>Did not experience this. I usually placed the new object in an empty
>spot and not too close to another object. It works. Rearranging does put
>everything in a "better perspective".
	I find it much easier to select auto sort from the Sort settings 
page.  Works great, keeps everything organized. :)
        --Toby Everett
        --teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu
        "I'm rooting for Boca.  How about you?"

Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.misc:11603 comp.windows.ms:12481
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 23:28:14 CDT
From: Darius Vaskelis <U54345@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Is OS/2 2.0 faster than Windows??
 <rdippold.703057981@cancun> <1992Apr12.204738.2983@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>
 <1992Apr12.175705.10643@wes.on.ca>

>                        WINOS2          WINOS2          Windows
>                        full-screen     seamless        3.1
>---------------------------------------------------------------
[specifics deleted...]
>Average (unweighted)    1.1             1.6             1.0

>WINOS2 tests run on: PS/2 Model 80 16MHz w/ 80387; IBM VGA; 8 MB memory
>Win3.1 tests run on: 386/40; Tseng ET4000 VGA (640x480x16); 8 MB memory

The numbers above appear to indicate that WIN-OS/2 provides slower screen
output than Windows 3.1... however, the WIN-OS/2 tests were run on a
16MHz computer with the built-in standard 8-bit VGA, and the Windows 3.1
tests were done on a 40MHz computer with one of the fastest 16-bit VGA
adapters available!  Would this mean WIN-OS/2 more than holds its own
against Windows 3.1?

(For those that are lost in this conversation, WIN-OS/2 is the
 environment that comes with IBM OS/2 2.0 to run Windows applications.)

- Darius
--
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University of Illinois Account Team
One IBM Plaza  15-KC9                    Telephone: (312) 245-3532
Chicago, IL 60611                         Internet: U54345@uicvm.uic.edu
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Help please!
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:37:32 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <sridhar.703281636@fir.cs.scarolina.edu> sridhar@cs.scarolina.edu (M. A. Sridhar) writes:
>I just installed OS/2 2.0 on my Tangent 486 computer. I'm having a few problems
>with it, and I'd appreciate some help.
>
>After a few shutdowns and startups, the startup suddenly fails, saying that 
>"The device specified by DEVICE=\OS2\MDOS\VMOUSE.SYS on line 58 of CONFIG.SYS
>is not installed. Line 58 is ignored. Press enter to proceed." It then proceeds
>after hitting enter, but there's no mouse pointer. Worse yet, line 58 says
>something about VCOM.SYS, not VMOUSE.SYS! and the line specifying VMOUSE.SYS is
>line 44. I don't know how to fix this.

I'm grasping at straws here, but here goes...  Do you have a serial or
bus mouse?  My first guess would be a conflict between your serial
port driver (VCOM.SYS) and your mouse driver (VMOUSE.SYS).  If you've
only one serial port, try commenting out the VCOM.SYS and see what
happens. 

>Also: I'd like to run my display in 1024x768
>mode, and I have an Orchid Prodesigner IIs card. So I copied a DLL from the
>Orchid BBS to my machine, and replaced \os2\dll\display.dll with their version.
>Trouble is, my DOS and OS/2 box windows have extremely small font as a result,
>and the Font size menu item only provides two choices -- 8x8 and 14x8 pixels.
>Even the 14x8 is far too small. I noticed that in the resolution provided by
>the default DISPLAY.DLL that came with OS/2 there were more choices.

I think the fonts are built into the driver.  If they only gave tiny
fonts for 1024x768, then the board designers were a bit shortsighted.
Those sizes work fine with a 17+" monitor, but are terrible with the
more typical 14" variety.  Gripe to Orchid or use a lower resolution.
Those fonts wwill probably look OK at 800x600.

>Oh, and while we are at it, is there any way to attach scroll bars to the DOS
>and OS/2 boxes so that I can scroll back? Can I cut and paste between the
>boxes? (I'm asking for all the stuff one can do under X, aren't I? :-)

Not the way xterm does it.  If you make the window smaller than the
screen space (eg: mode 80,100 with the window remaining the same 80x25
size) then a scroll bar will appear.   This isn't what you really
want, but unless the program uses cursor-positioning commands, it has
a similar effect.

>Thanks in advance.

You're welcome.


-- 
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dic5340@hertz.njit.edu          A:"They go up"
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From: dwl@watson.ibm.com (David W. Levine)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 GA - Impressions, Suggestions, Info
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 1992 17:38:19 GMT
Reply-To: dwl@watson.ibm.com 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center

OS/2 2.0 will boot from a logical partition, in conjunction with
the bootmanger. Definitly a win if you'd like to work your way into
running in parallel with another environment.

David W. Levine      -- IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center
dwl@watson.ibm.com   -- (914) 784-7427 

My Opinions, IBM's hardware. --
From: matt@bss1.umd.edu (Matthew Piermarini)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: My OS/2 GA Won't Install!
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:17:25 GMT
Organization: College of Behavioral and Social Sciences, U of Maryland

Help!
  
  I finally get a copy of GA and it won't get past disk 1 during the install.
It fails with a FDISK error after displaying the Logo.  The INSTALL.LOG file 
looks like:

Model=FC
Submodel=01
Non-Abios Machine
Bus Architecutre=|0|
Disk Type=|0|
FDISK Unsuccessful

I am installing it on a 386 AMI bios clone, with 2 95meg RLL Drives 
(WD1006SRV2 Rll Controller).   I don't think it is a hardware problem 
because I have been using these drives for a while with DOS 5, AND IT WORKED 
FINE USING THE .304 BETA!  Please help.

Matt Piermarini
Matt@bss1.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: i1neal@exnet.iastate.edu (Neal Rauhauser -- )
Subject: OS/2 horror story, help!
Reply-To: i1neal@exnet.iastate.edu (Neal Rauhauser -- )
Organization: Iowa State University Extension
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:28:06 GMT


   One of my friends turned over his copy of OS/2 6.177 beta to me a while
back. I just installed VGA today and installed the OS. It doesn't recognize
my mouse, complaining about vmouse.sys not being found, and when I try to 
run a dos command shell in full screen mode, the machine wedges. I got dual
boot to switch it for me, but then I had no command processor. I rebooted with
a floppy and copy the command processor over, now its complaining about
a bad command.com. Oh yeah, I'm working on a $22k programming job, its all on
this machine, and the due date approaches :-)


1. how do I get from dos to os/2 ? where is the reverse to dualboot I
   found in the windowing system?

2. I have a ami bios, 2 ide drives, 8 meg of memory, a plain ol' logitech
   rodent, and a trident 8900 based vga board (rev b), oh yeah, its a 386/25
   Is this a known trouble combination?

3. is there a decent database ala dBase3+Clipper, foxbase, etc?


		Neal
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  Neal i1neal@exnet.iastate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Subject: Re: Manuals with OS/2 V.2 as shipped.
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 04:08:31 GMT

From article <1992Apr9.053634.3692@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, by smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith):
> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>>
>>I too am a "manual(s) in my lap" person and definitely want the option. I'll
>>pay more, no problem.  Just give me the frigging option!
> 
> YES.  I would at least like the option of paying extra for a good
> set of manuals, even if it cost me $40.  Or how about making the
> manuals available in electronic format for $5 and let the enduser
> print it out?  

IBM does give the option of paying extra for a printed set of manuals...
There is an order form included with OS/2 2.0.

Publications available are the following:

OS/2 2.0 Command Reference (A printed version of the online docs basically)
	Part No. 10G6313	$35.75
OS/2 2.0 Keyboards and Code Pages (Listing of keyboard layouts, code-pages
	and such)
	Part No. 10G6312	$8.10
OS/2 2.0 Video (An intro to the Workplace Shell)
	Part No. 41G5097	$14.95

Phone number to call: 1-800-426-7282

I'm not affilated with IBM in any way, besides being a customer, of course :)
From: davidh@towers.rn.com (David Holland)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is OS2/2.0-DOS faster than plain Dos??
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:30:59 GMT
Organization: Small System Specialists

rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:

>ry01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT YUNG) writes:
>>Is DOS in OS2 2.0 faster than plain Dos on the SAME machine? Or is it so
>>arkward and slow that I would have to dual-bbot all the time?

>It sure speeds along when you're accessing a file on a HPFS partition!
>No, it seems to me that DOS runs just fine.  Of course, if you've got
>a couple disk or cpu intensive tasks going on things slow down, but
>not as much as with Windows or DesqView.

Well, just an example, a very old copy of norton utilities SI reports
approx 51.2 on a 486/33 as its computing index, however under
OS/2 2.0 in a Dos window I managed only 18.x.

I'd say the disk I/O is probably improved considerably (with HPFS that is)
however computing thru-put is (obviously) lower.

>-- 
>It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats.

David Holland
davidh@towers.rn.com
From: tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Windows as an OS Again
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:18:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr8.111845.6182
Organization: University of Hawaii

Jeff PARSONS writes:

> One of his early points was that while the OS/2 code was golden
> they were running lots of beta code in the form of new 32-bit applications.
> I wondered why that really mattered for an environme..  I mean operating
> system.. as robust as OS/2.

Now wouldn't it be one heck of an operating system, if it could automatically
fix bugs in application software.  No doubt NT will have this feature.
(Come on Jeff, you can do better than that.)

Seriously, somebody else believes he saw Lee only single click Reversi rather
than double clicking.  How he thinks he could tell, I don't know; I wasn't
there (and I'm quite envious).  Even if there were a bug, I wouldn't hold
it against them.  When has Microsoft ever released any "golden" code of a
new product that was bug free?  I certainly haven't encountered any yet.
From: tom@ismdqa.intel.com (Tom Soukup ~)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: 0 for 2 and looking for help!!!
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:39:34 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Intel Corp.

Well, now I am 0 for 2 in trying to install OS/2 GA release on computers.
Hopefully I can get some words of wisdom from the net.

The first system I tried to install this on is an Intel made PC (386 33
MHz, 8Meg, 120Meg Maxtor IDE disk, Orchid ProDesigner IIs).  In this case,
OS/2 installs and boots correctly, but I can not start any kind of DOS or
win-os2 session.  I get the same error message in any case: 

SYS3176: A program in this session encountered a problem and can not continue.

I get this message when ever I go into the command prompts folder and
select any of the DOS or windows entries.  The IBM technical support people
have not been able to come up with any fixes for this.  Does anyone have
any thoughts????


The second system I tried is a no name clone (386 20MHz, 4Meg, 40Meg
Seagate ST-251 and 68 Meg Micropolis 1325 disks, Orchid Prodesigner II s).
The problem is much more severe in this case.  When OS/2 attempts to boot
during the installation, the hard disk drive begins to make an unnatural
buzzing noise when ever the disk active LED comes on.  After a while an
error message pops up saying that Drive C has stopped unexpectedly (I don't
have the exact message) and suggesting that I run chkdsk /f.  At this point
the system is frozen.  I get the same behavior trying to boot from either
the Seagate or the Micropolis drive (using a Western Digital controller by
the way).  During one attempt, the installation actually appeared to work
correctly (the disk make funny noises when OS/2 started, but suddenly began
to sound normal, all 21 disks were loaded and then the same symptoms as
described above after re-booting).  This made me suspect that perhaps some
of my memory wasn't fast enough and so I set the clock speed to 8Mhz, but
there was no change in the symptoms.


Any suggestions for either of these problems would be appreciated (of
course if I'm missing something in the installation manual I deserve the
flames).

Thanks in advance
Tom
DISCLAMER:  Intel doesn't agree with much of anything that I say.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dch2@engr.uark.edu (David Hobbs)
Subject: Re: WHERE ARE THE TV ADS, WHERE ARE THE BANNERS IN STORES, WHERE IS THE MEDIA BLITZ???
Organization: University of Arkansas
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:07:14 GMT

jsvec@umaxa.weeg.uiowa.edu (Joe Svec) writes:

>Something that popped in my mind last night while watch TV was that most people
>in this country (who watch TV) know more about the virtues of KRAFT MIRICLE
>WHIP than they do about OS/2!

Yes, but we'd ALL know about OS/2 if we could eat it! :)

D.
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From: chris@atl.scscom.com (Chris Boaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: the 16550 and Hamilton C shell?
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:45:20 GMT
Organization: SCS/Compute, Inc.

Menees, Bill writes:

>        Would someone tell me what the Hamilton C shell is?  Is it a Unix-
>like shell that runs under OS/2?  If so, is there a 32-bit 2.0 version in 
>the works?  Is it shareware or "regular-ware"?  (Is there a better term than
>"regular-ware" for non-shareware and non-freeware software?)

Hamilton C Shell is a reimplementation of the Unix C shell command language
for OS/2. It's a command shell and language. I've been using it for a 
couple of years now, and I shiver every time I have to go back to CMD.EXE
on someone elses system. Hamilton C Shell is a particularly valuable product
if you move between Unix and OS/2, as I do. It's a great advantage to have
the same shell on both systems.

The author is Doug Hamilton, and you can reach him on the net at
3890321@mcimail.com. I haven't exchanged in mail with him in some time,
so I'm not sure if he's working on a 32 bit version or not.

And yes, it's "regular-ware". The price was about $300 and something a
while back, but I'm not sure if that's changed. Drop Doug a note, it's
a great product.

Oh, by the way, you can also call him at 508-358-5715.

>                                        Bill Menees
>                                        menees@utkvx.utk.edu

Chris
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Windows NT
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:45:36 GMT

Robert Cain writes

>I'll bet I have seen a dozen sarcastic postings taken seriously here and
>in other fora this week.  We have to realize that sarcasm does not even
>translate into some cultures or even some US educations.  I had the luck
>to be raised by a master of the form but someone without much exposure
>easily perceives it real and then feels foolish.  So, careful folks. 
>To be safe across an international network prefix it with "sarcasm on:"
>or some such. Let's agree on a sarcasty symbol.

Bob,

you're being to goddamn sensitive.

;-)
SARCASM OFF
"SARCASM WARNING, WILL ROBINSON"
"Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not a sarcasm interpreter."

Recursive sarcasm...?

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1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900        do not necessarily reflect
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From: asher@qtp.ufl.edu (Robert L. Asher)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 wrt interupts, DMA port calls and extended services
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:22:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: uflorida.35155
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Quantum Theory Project, University of Florida

I have seen several statements in this group which seem to directly conflict.

OS/2 2.0 is not interupt driven OS.  OS/2 uses irq7, which conflicts with 
Soundblaster cards, for printer control.

OS/2 can run programs which make extensive use of DMA (ie wing commander)
OS/2 will probably require some sort of device driver to handle DMA port calls.
(in DOS shells)

Which of the above are correct?  If I have to rewrite DOS code which uses
interupts and direct memory access via port calls with OS/2 how can I do it?
Presently the code I have is written in Assembly and C.  How different is 
assembly written for DOS from OS/2?  
I quess I need to know which of the extended programs will I need or if the 
future release of BC++ for OS/2 (which borland assures me is coming) handle
all of the above with no need for the IBM "seperate packages".

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Robert L. Asher          | Probable impossibilities are to be preferred to 
Department of Chemistry  | improbable possibilities.  Aristotle
University of Florida    | All that we see or seem 
asher@qtp.ufl.edu        | Is but a dream within a dream. Poe
From: kc2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kwan-Ju Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: $25 for os/2 ?
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:32:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.4dtonZu00YVX429oVU
Organization: Sophomore, IM - H&SS Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


  
My friend told me that I can get os/2 for $25 from EggHead is it true?

I think he is joking.