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From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Honesty, Your word, and Trust -- a crisis?
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:46:07 GMT
	<1993Jan25.154347.580@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: ron@turing.toronto.edu's message of 25 Jan 93 20:43:47 GMT


In article <1993Jan25.154347.580@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels) writes:

   If I >really< wanted to be on time, I would allocate plenty of extra time
   to cover possible contingencies.  Obviously, not everything rates this
   "best effort".  For most things, I will make a trade-off between how much
   I want to be on time, how much time I'm willing to waste by being early,
   and what the probabilities are of needing "contingency time".

   Now, Josh Diamond will contend that I'm being dishonest because I promise
   to be on time, but don't put forth my "best effort".  I can accept that.
   However, most people (in my experience) will only be upset if there is a
   disagreement as to the importance of the meeting, and therefore feel that
   I should have allocated more contingency time.

On the contrary.  I was just getting ready to post a very similar
message.  

In real life, there are inevitably differing levels of committment.

Spidey!!!


--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
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From: mkleczka@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,alt.cascade
Subject: Re: Correct Term Usage
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:31:47 -0600
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

In article <1993Jan24.093422.3415@netcom.com>, rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
> In article <1993Jan24.074306.1415@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>>afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:
>>] In article <1993Jan19.005309.14935@wetware.com>, drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes...
>>] >tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>] >] 
>>] >] Trygve   (I know there's some comment to be made here about how "when all
>>] >]           you have is a hammer, every problem tends to look like a nail"
>>] >]           but I don't know what that comment is.)
>>] > 
>>] >correct Phrase is:
>>] > 
>>] >"when all You have is a Hammer, everything looks like a FolkSinger."
>>] > 
>>] 
>>] Get it right, drieux. it goes ...
>>] 
>>] "When all you have is Hammer, everything looks like Rap."
>>
>>"When all you have is a Hammer, everything looks like a jpeg!"
>>
> 
> "When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like Jesus Christ."
> 

"When all you have is a hammer, dammit, put some clothes on!"






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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Flirting How To Guide/Backrubs
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: soc
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 00:33:33 GMT

In article <JULIE.93Jan22134337@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu> julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:

>I should have realized I'm probably out of synch with normal human beings
>on this one.  In fact, I *don't* enjoy back rubs very much.  Oh, every
>once in a while they're really nice, but at any given moment I'm not
>very likely to want or enjoy one.  Maybe I'm just too fidgety.  I'd just
>rather do something a little more physically active than receiving a back
>rub, generally.  They make me feel pinned down.  OK, so I'm weird.

Excellent.  Here I've been feeling inadequate, listening to Aahz and the
others extoll the virtues of backrubs.  I've disliked them ever since I
was a kid.  My brother loved it, but I'd just squirm out of the way.
I don't suppose I actively dislike it anymore.  Don't understand it is more
like it.

I'd like to come out as a take-it-or-leave-it-backrub sort of guy.

Cheers,
RNA
From: quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Rampant Sexist Exploitation
Summary: Sexual exploitation ? Yes please !
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:37:40 GMT
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

:    ] What I need to do is find some sweet young thing who'd like to work out
:    ] his rent.....I'm very negotiable.

:    Oh Sure!!!!!
:    "Hey Honey, Want to make Dinner, in exchange for
:    next weeks part of the Rent... and When You are
:    Finished getting Your Bisquits in the Oven....."
:    Like, Really, I mean How DUMB do You think Guys ARE!!!!

: I don't know, I was considering her offer.

   I just wish I'd been smart enough to read up to Drieux's post *before* I
rushed off to buy the plane tickets. Oh well, you live and attempt to learn...

-- 
Tony Quirke, Wellington, New Zealand (Quirke_A@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz)
"Only the free have disposition to be truthful.
 Only the truthful have the interest to be just.
 Only the just possess the willpower to be free." - WH Auden.
From: brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason) 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Those DAMN Doubble posts
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Micro Exchange - Kenwood, CA - 707-833-4032

       I would like to take this moment to say that I'm sorry for some of
those nasty doubble posts of late.

       I uploaded up reply packet.. forgot to delete the last batch of
messages first (live and learn).  Was going to delete the dups that got
posted but I forgot for a few minutes and guess what?

       My loving sysop (Andrew.. I truely nice guy) decided that since we
were getting feed a few days behind, that he would do me a favor and
upload the mail to the server.. and guess what?  Those damn message got
out!

       Sorry... and for those who flame me, well I guess I deserve it.
       But be gentle, Really it wasn't my fault (well almost)!

 Brent Mason
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From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Any Available Jewish Men Out There??
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:28:33 GMT
	<1joq2qINNi9k@mirror.digex.com> <C1ADtw.6u7@CAM.ORG>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: souchay@CAM.ORG's message of 23 Jan 93 03:03:30 GMT


In article <C1ADtw.6u7@CAM.ORG> souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay) writes:

   In article <1joq2qINNi9k@mirror.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
   >Be prepared for failure, though.  Recently I've read about an interesting
   >hypothesis that religious belief and behavior are biological traits of humans.
   >They're not necessarily adaptive but could be side-effects of our neoteny
   >and carnivory.

   "Take this wine and drink, for it is my blood. Take this bread and eat,
   for it is my body."

Just those cannibalist christians, eh?  :-) :-)

   Some guy with a beard, a long time ago.

Hey, I have a beard!  Maybe I was in a time warp...  :-)

Spidey!!!   




--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mel@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Meloney D Cregor)
Subject: Re: Zen and the art of refrig upkeep (Re: Living alone)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:53:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.192100.27311@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:

>No, no!  The veggie bin is where you put the good champaign,
>wine and beer!  You know - the stuff you keep for yourself?

So *that's* what those drawers are for!

>Frozen dinner, take-out, restaurants...

Yup, on all those.

>Actually - schedule a day for cooking - or use
>cooking as an excuse not to do housework.

Ye gods. I don't need any more excuses for this one, it already gets
put at the bottom of the priority list.

>Or get involved with someone who lives with a
>trained chef - and volunteer to help with the
>cooking.

It's that time thing again.  I don't have time to get involved.

What I need to do is find some sweet young thing who'd like to work out
his rent.....I'm very negotiable.
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Honesty, Your word, and Trust -- a crisis?
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:42:23 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com's message of 22 Jan 93 19:11:01 GMT


In article <C19ryE.39C@portal.hq.videocart.com> dfuller@portal.hq.videocart.com (Dave Fuller) writes:

   jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
   : [ Hey, why don't we always be honest ]

     The problem with the other "white lies" (i'll be at the party) is a 
   multiple problem i think. This is done because people hate conflict.
   Why say "no" and have to explain why ? You can just say "yes", avoid it,
   then get excused for it later. The conflict avoidance brings on more than
   just your typical lies however. How often does somebody make you angry
   (even in the most minor sense) ? What do you do ? Do you tell them on the
   spot to stop, or go and tell somebody else how mad the person made you.
   All too often, alot of people know what is bothering somebody. It seems that
   everybody EXCEPT the person CREATING the problem is aware that it exists.

Yup.  Yet another breakdown in communication.  We are unwilling to
confront each other on even the smallest issues.  So the issues
aggregate, and snowball until they become a major issue.  The kind
that cause relationships to fail.  Even the kind that causes wars.

Note that when I say "confront" I don't mean "tell them they're
wrong", I mean "tell them how I feel".

This makes me think of another scenario: people tend to give an excuse
for not doing something you want them to do, rather than tell you that
they are just not interested in doing it...

     Seems to me people are afraid to stand up for themselves because it
   isnt commonly done. They think that if they do it, the other person will
   be offended by it and cease to relate to them.          

Exactly.  It is due to a desire to avoid risk; better to not have what
I want than to risk rejection.  It's a very ineffective conversation, eh?



Spidey!!!

--
You don't hunt ducks with a turnip! 

 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ag936@yfn.ysu.edu (Lance Durden)
Subject: Re: Re:
Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:05:53 GMT


is that all that happens here? you are all a bunch of useless
lurkers!
--
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: (LONG) Re: Living alone and liking it
Date: 28 Jan 93 21:22:50 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan28.164333.15960@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:

>White chocolate brownies?  I must know more.  Shall I prostrate before you
>or would a simple grovel suffice?  Tell me.  Are they white or brown, 

Blonde, on the inside, light brown on the outside. 

>frosted or naked-my-love, 

Not frosted, but they do have chunks of white chocolate
on the inside.  And I have thought of covering them with
the raspberry sauce I use for my white-chocolate mousse
cake, but that's another story...  

>chewey or cakey?  

Chewy.  Definitely.

>Do they taste like those white Easter chickens or the *good* 
>stuff from Fannie May?  

Not Fanny May.  Simon David.

>And would you accept the deed to my house for the recipe?

Single or duplex?

And how many years do you have left on the mortgage?
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Oh Do learn to play Nice....
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:36:23 GMT
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: grover.cs.unc.edu
In-reply-to: drieux@wetware.com's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:57:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.025727.16210@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:

   martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
   ] In article <ewright.727734935@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
   ] 
   ]    Whoo!  It's Psycho V -- The Return of Charlie Martin.
   ] 
   ]    Run along now, Charles.  Mother's calling.
   ] 
   ] Ed, a long time ago I figured out there were certain people and certain
   ] remarks for which the only intellectually honest response was "oh, fuck
   ] you." 

   How many times hae we told you charles
   to be sensitive to other people's desperate
   cries for attention and social acceptance!

   And there you go being Rude, UnPleasant and Nasty!!!!!

   You really do have to learn to be NICE to people charles!!!!

   How is anyone going to learn to get along with you
   when you are just SOOOOOOO KanTankErOuse!!!!!

Well, I suppose I could always join the Marines.


   -- 
   MajorModernDayProblems: 

   sometimes, a thing will happen after another thing, 
   and they may not be connected..... 
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
From: brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason) 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Infinate # of Monkies
Date: 24 Jan 93 10:19:00 GMT
Reply-To: brent.mason@uuworld.via.mind.ORG (Brent Mason) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Micro Exchange - Kenwood, CA - 707-833-4032

JD> From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
  >  When was the last time you saw a gorilla write a computer
  > program?
  >
  > 					Spidey!!!

       Haven't you ever heard of the Infinate Number of Monkies Theory.
       (Look at MicroSoft!)  If you get enough fools together you'll
       eventually create something (wouldn't venture to guess what).

       Besides, who do you think carries all these letters to your
monitor.  I refuse to believe that it's the Elfs.

       Brent Mason
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Credibility and Trueness
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:29:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan25.192016.3925@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:

>While you have it handy(as usual) look up acaulescent.

Wow*.  I'm awestruck by the literary might of this putdown.  Saludos!

I'm also deeply grateful that I hefted the  %^&!@# dictionary down
from the shelf to look it up, because I found seven entries for
Cauchy in there, and I thought of the math-dweeb joke about Cauchy's
dog.  Ah, life is indeed sweet!

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"Shouldn't I have this, shouldn't I have this, shouldn't I have all of this,
 and, passionate kisses, passionate kisses, passionate kisses, from you?"
- "Passionate Kisses" Lucinda Williams
From: reb@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Richard E. Barrier)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: chocolate
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:53:39 GMT
Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research, La Habra, CA.

In article <1993Jan23.042440.22935@voodoo.ca.boeing.com> das@emmapeel.ca.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan20.000640.29156@hubcap.clemson.edu> smersch@eng.clemson.edu writes:
>>>It's yummy and easy to spread when heated.
>
>But the fun really begins when the chocolate hardens, and you get to chew it
>off of whatever you spread it on.  

I was visiting some friends in the San Fransico area and since I was the tourist
we went to Ghiradeli - don't start drooling yet Deb. Since it was drizzling out
this was during the week of the Jan. 15th we got some Irish coffee. Eating
Ghiradeli chocolate drinking Iish coffee with a little piece of chocolate in it
was great. That certainly is one way to heat your chocolate and it goes down
well. BTW: I also have a cat. A furry tiger tabby who is the best roomate that
I've ever had. He only eats the food that I give him and he doesn't drink my
last beer. He doesn't pay rent but he also doesn't eat my chocolate either.
******************************************************************************
Richard Barrier (310) 694-9354 or reb@chevron.com
These are my opinions, not Chevron's - so don't ask Chevron...
Don't ask my cat - he's not talking either...a piece of chicken might work ????
******************************************************************************
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Trygve's shower
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:27:46
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
	<1993Jan21.114038.12699@lloyd.Camex.COM>
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In-reply-to: dhardin@bbn.com's message of 22 Jan 1993 22:14:14 GMT

In article <lm0sdmINN7rv@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

   In article <1993Jan22.200221.11126@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
   >In article <1993Jan21.114038.12699@lloyd.Camex.COM> amy@lloyd.Camex.COM (Amy Lindsay) writes:
   >
   >Well, at least he'll probably be a little more mobile.  Of course it
   >depends on the tastes of your minions--Charlie has a dissertation while
   >I have a dungeon, so you just need to decide which they prefer. 

   Not bad, Tryg, but you'll have to do a little better than that to beat
   the "live dildo" line.

*preen*
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Credibility...
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:28:32 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <9084@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:

>Does it matter if the focus is on the individual in a romantic way?  I
>have several male friends with whom I do things because I want to see one
>of them, not because I desperately want to participate in whatever activity
>we've thought up, but I don't think these evenings render me non-single.


There, again, I don't think there's a black-and-white distinction. 
For me, anyway, romance begins with friendship, so there isn't much
distinction, in the beginning, between a romantic relationship and
a nonromantic one.


>I'd have to say that I don't understand it either.  Have they ever 
>explained why they feel that this is inappropriate?  

Yes, but the explanations are always circular.  


>I guess I could 
>envision a reluctance to interact with a male friend on a one-on-one
>basis if I felt that it would *lead* to an unwanted romantic interaction,
>but that's not very common.  

I don't see how an interaction can be "romantic" and "unwanted" at
the same time.  Presumeably you mean something like "sexual."


>Can you give examples of person-based and activity-based situations?

That's difficult.  It depends less on the situation than on a
person's reason for being in that situation.  If Joe goes to
dinner with Sally because he wants to try the buffet at that
fancy new restaurant, it's activity-oriented.  If he goes to
dinner with Sally because he wants to be with her, it's person-
oriented.



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From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance
Subject: Re: On Being Single
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:37:59
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: grover.cs.unc.edu
In-reply-to: drieux@wetware.com's message of Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:09:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.030906.16272@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:

   martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
   ] Being "single" I presume implies "not in a monogamous relationship" or
   ] at least "not in a committed long term relationship" whether we mean Ed
   ] Wright the pinnacle of human evolution or Ugh the Cave Person.

   I think it would be safer to start with the 
   bare bones minimum of:

   "Not Currently in a Contractual Arrangement with
   another Person, such as is exclusionary of other
   personal relationships with a potential or actual
   sexual component."

   Like yourself, I am divorced, and hence no longer in
   a contractual arrangement, as stipulated above. Hence
   I am 'single' - I am in a Protracted arrangment with
   a ProblemOlderWoman, But until she finishes the
   preliminary readings, including, but not limited to
   Hofstatder's GEB, we are not in a position to discuss
   the nature of Completeness or Closure.

What I want to know is if that means you're in a protracted relationship
with Aahz by transitivity.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T