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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Bucs coach
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:57:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.205105.9239@wl.com> wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:
>
>Does anyone know who the new coach of Tampa Bay is? Not that it will make
>a whole lot of difference.
>

Russ, his name is Sam Wyche,  you might remember him, he was the guy who
put together a couple of  league leading offensive units a while back up
there in Cincinnati.  He had the foresight,  when he got here, to retain
Floyd Peters (who managed to put together a couple of league leading de-
fensive units at about the same time up in Minnesota).  Now,  you may be
right.   It may not make any difference.   But,  would you like to coach
against these gentlemen if you had assumed that -- and you turned out to
have, somewhat, taken them for granted?
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From: sutton@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Weekly results posting wanted
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:07:09 GMT

Hello,

Is there anyone on the Net who can post a weekly list of
the games' scores?  I would prefer E-mail but posting will
also work.   If someone has such a list please add my address
to it.

sutton@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi 

Thanks,

Keith Sutton
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From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
Subject: Re: Monday Night Football announcers are terrible
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:44:10 GMT

In article <183463@pyramid.pyramid.com>,
glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert) writes:

>In article <1992Sep9.214248.13451@leland.Stanford.EDU> paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische) writes:
>>>
>>>        "Using those two timeouts when they didn't need to
>>>         was a strategical mistake."
>>>
>>
>>What's wrong with the word _strategical_ here?  I'm pretty sure it is a word
>>and it's definitely used in the corrct context (assuming it's a word, of
>>course.)
>
>The correct word is strategic.  Adding 'al' to this and other words (like
>comic) is unnecessary.
>
>George Lambert

Yo George!!! Nice to see you back! Where have you been hiding at
lately? :->

                                                   Tony
                                                GO 49ERS!!!
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From: mzhao@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Min Zhao)
Subject: Re: JETS 15-1 this season or kill me
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:11:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.140051.3838@spcvxb.spc.edu> 2pereira_f@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>Hi out there all you football fanatics......
>
>I just wanted to say that if the JETS play like they did against the 
>FALCONS on Saturday...the first quarter that is....I will burn my 
>season tickets.....
>or sell them........
>
>GO JETS!!!!!
>------> Please don't lose another game like that !!!!!
>
>JETS   15 - 1
>BUFFALO 10 - 6
>MIAMI  10 -6
>-----------
>Final Standing for top 3 teams at end of season....(ah let me dream a little)
>
>
>bye,
>" Frustrated Jets fan!"
>seee ys,

 
   Dream on..................................................................
 
  It looks like a long season, or short ?
From: rinehart@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Madden sucks
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:24:05 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Sep11.145302.8882@selway.umt.edu> sh666@selway.umt.edu (Wolverine) writes:

> How many of you out there think that Madden is the WORST football announcer
> on the face of the planet...  Here are a few of his classic quotes..
> 'They don't want to get an interception at this stage of the game'
> Excuse me?  I wasn't aware that ANY team EVER wanted an interception
> at any point during a game...
> 'They have to put some points on the board....'
> Again!  Madden astounds us with his excellent grasp of the obvious.
> I could go on for years.. I was wondering how many people agree with me.
> I won't even metion last weeks game when he was pointing out people who
> knew how to have a tailgate party and those who didn't.  Oh well..
> 							W O L V E R I N E


Please don't go on for years. Nobody is that interested.

I trust you could do better??????????

Frankly, this whole subject makes me laugh, because so far, there
isn't one single broadcaster that everybody likes. So what's the point
of discussing it at all? 

I like John Madden. He knows more about football than you do. He knows
more about broadcasting than you do and he's probably better looking
than you are, wolverine.





mark
From: mannk@fshvmfk1.VNET.IBM.COM (Ken Mann)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 14:39:00 EDT
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Clayton on IR
Reply-To: mannk@fshvmfk1.VNET.IBM.COM
Organization: IBM
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: Usenet 3.0

Curtis Fennell writes:
> According to Saturday's Boston Globe, Mark Clayton was put on injured
> reserve and Jim Jensen was resigned.  Clayton has a strained disk (or
> something like that) which he also had last year, but played with
> anyway.

Can someone in Miami confirm this?  adTHANKSvance

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From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
Subject: Re: Smith is NOT Sanders
Originator: bradletm@rastaban
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:41:38 GMT

From article <1992Sep10.230320.22147@coe.montana.edu>, by icsu0182@cs.montana.edu (Sean):

(lots deleted...)

>>as Barry.  Sorry dude.  I know how much you don't like what I'm saying,
>>but the truth hurts sometimes, dammit.
>>
>>					- Tim
> 
> 
> -- 
>   =========================================================================
>      Sean Reid                  ||  "Parties...Babes...It's a  
>      Dept. of Computer Science  ||   rather simple life." - Wayne Campbell 
>      Montana State University   ||  **** GO COWBOYS!!!!!!! ****           

Sean -

	Cool .sig file you got there, but what does this have to do with
the subject?
From: ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Erik Karl Witte)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 1992 NFL Predictions
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:58:16 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

One quick note:  I'm writing this not having seen today's games.

Are you out of your mind?  Let's pick Chris Braun's wild guesses apart,
shal we?

AFC East
The obvious problem is, Buffalo #4?  Buffalo is still probably the best
team in the AFC despite their inability to win the super bowl.  At least
they've gotten there recently, unlike the Jets.  The Jets, with their
receiving corps and no quarterback, redefine futility.  They don't have
the defense to carry them.  Is Chris from New York?

The real standings:
1.  Buffalo
2.  Miami
3.  Jets
4.  New England
5.  Indianapolis


AFC Central
Pittsburgh isn't that bad, and without Wyche, Cincinatti is weakened at best.
1.  Houston
2.  Cleveland
3.  Pittsburgh
4.  Cincinatti


AFC West
Chris Braun didn't mess up here!  I find myself agreeing all the way.


NFC East
There is simply no way Philadelphia is better than the best team in the
World.  The skins will make everyone else's year an effort in futility. 
Philadelphia will be better than they were when Cunningham got taken out
the first game of the season, but he won't be running as much and
without that they just can't win.  But most importantly, what happened
to Dallas?  They are a really good team waiting to become a great team,
and that will happen halfway through the season, in time to save a
not-so good start.
1.  Washington
2.  Dallas
3.  Philadelphia
4.  Giants
5.  Phoenix


NFC Central
This will be the good teams and the bad teams again.  Minnesota was 8-8
last year and they'll be better this year, but that good?  Detroit is
good enough to rise to the top, but they'll lose to the Bears, but just
barely.  Green Bay (my personal team), is looking up, but I'm realistic.
 Watch them go 7-9 with less and less Majkowski.
1.  Chicago
2.  Detroit
3.  Minnesota
4.  Green Bay
5.  Tampa Bay


NFC West
This will be a tight division.  Atlanta is perenially good but not
great, New Orleans defense will carry them again, and San Fransisco just
plain can't cut a #1 spot.
1.  Atlanta
2.  New Orleans
3.  San Fransisco
4.  LA Rams



Jumping right to the final games, you'll see this:
AFC Championship:  Buffalo over Houston
NFC Championship:  Washington over Atlanta



Unlike Chris, I don't claim to be a football genius, just a big fan.  I
love nothing more than to watch the games.

Please talk back!  I'm enjoying reading the predictions!
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From: cs902043@ariel.yorku.ca (SHAWN LUDDINGTON)
Subject: Quarterback Ratings 
Originator: cs902043@t05.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:25:48 GMT



   If anyone knows how to calculate the quaterback ratings, can you please reply to me at cs902043@ariel.yorku.ca

                      Thanks, Shawn
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From: mcs@fps.com (Mike Sanfratello)
Subject: Re: Niner's look good (IMHO)
Organization: CRAY Research
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:57:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.031701.28490@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>
>I have a different outlook on the SAME game.  The score could have
>been 40+-14, Niner's winning.  What I saw was a Niner team pretty much
>in control, except for the stupid penalties.  If they can avoid these
>penalties (fingers crossed), the Bill won't have a chance.
>-- 
>        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
Yep, the Bills didn't have a chance, even playing away, on grass, yep,
never a chance.  NOT!!  NFC baahh!

mike
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Monday Night Football announcers are terrible
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:04:40 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <1992Sep09.140343.301@bnr.ca> patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power) writes:

       The one quote that cracked me up was made by FGifford.  Referring to
   Emmitt's goal of a 2000yd season, he said that a goal of 125 yards per
   CARRY was not unrealistic.  Reality, what a concept!  :)

quick: name the last team to lose a non-planB free agent.  It may end up
costing Dallas more, but he probably won't even get an offer from another
team.

Bill
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From: barnes@cowboys.esd.sgi.com (Jim Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: New Cowboys
Keywords: Haley
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:08:53 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <m2rngnj.xtifr@netcom.com>, xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
writes:
|> In <1992Sep8.154158.17855@odin.corp.sgi.com> barnes@cowboys.esd.sgi.com
|> (Jim Barnes) writes:
|> 
|> >Charles Haley is a GREAT addition............
|> >What FOOLS gave him up???????????????
|> >hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
|> 
|> [raising hand]
|> 
|> That would be us fools over here.  The SF 49ers.  I gotta admit, I was
|> not too pleased about losing him, but what the heck.  He *wanted* to
|> play for Dallas, and the Niners are known for giving their players what
|> they want (at least, more so than most teams).  Though this struck me
|> as
|> a trifle excessive.
|> 
|> Fortunately, Tim Harris is quite good, and actually seems to *like*
|> being a Niner, unlike Haley.  It almost makes up for the loss (assuming
|> that Harris can stay out of jail...).
|> -- 
|> Chris Waters    | the insane don't | NOBODY for President!
|> xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers | Because Nobody's perfect!!

I just hope Haley stays healthy.............
Jim
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From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: Changing of Game Dates/Sites
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:04:17 GMT


A lot of discussion regarding how often games get moved and/or sites get
changed due to unforeseen events ...

The most common instance is when a team's home stadium is also that of
their baseball counterparts, and they are in their respective league
championship series.  I would think that the NFL would know which cities
are involved and schedule divisional games at home, which would facilitate
the easy "switch the site" action.  This has happened many times over the
last few years ... sites involving Falcon-49er games have been fairly
frequent, due mostly to the Giants, although last year, it was due to the
Braves.  The Bengals-Oilers series of two years was effected, and in 1987,
sites for the Falcon-49ers (SF Giants) and Vikings-Bucs (Minn Twins) were
reversed on consecutive weekends due to the baseball playoffs.

As far as rescheduling actual DATES, that becomes necessary when a site
switch cannot be done.  The Cleveland-Seattle game on opening weekend of
1984 was dropped back 24 hours due to the Mariners (yes, they played that
game on Labor Day afternoon).  The Twins World Series of 1987 with the
Cardinals went seven games, so the Broncos-Vikings got moved to Monday
night, which turned out to be a better game than the Rams-Browns game that
most of the nation received.  The Patriots-Dolphins game would have had a
site reversal, but Foxboro would not have been in good shape, so the NFL
moved the game to what would have been their "bye" week.

Falcons are no longer effected by the Braves now that they have moved to
the "Georgia Dome", and now that the A's traded away Canseco, the Vikings
might need a site switch ...


Bob - we haven't had to worry about this since 1970

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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: GIANTS draft screw-up??
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:44:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <88937@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>Earlier this year the GIANTS gave up their first round draft in 1993
>pick to obtain Duke's QB in the supplemental draft.  Am I the only one
>who think they screwed up big time (again!)??  Face it, they ain't looking
>too good this year and they would have probably ended up drafting high
>next year meaning they would have either had a chance at Notre Dame's QB
>(Rick Mirer) or Michigan's QB (Elvis Grbac) not to mention the number of
>other QBs who will be available this draft.  Instead, they give it up to


Depends, how do you propose they draft Mirer or Grbac if there is not a
draft next year? Why do you think so many underclassmen came out, and
why do you think the NFL withdrew their offer to the players union after
the NFL lost the McNeil trial? There may not be a draft next year if
the players union doesn't agreee to it, so an offer that includes an
entry level wage scale for rookies based on where they are drafted is
a little hard to use. Now any agreements will have to be hammered out
with both sides in the room, rather than both sides coming up with
demands and giving them to each other.

At this point we don't know what will happen next year, so taking Brown
may have been a smart choice for the Giants.

This is why I mentioned in an earlier post that I expect the Cardinals
to make a few trades. a team looking to improve, can't rely on the
draft, until they know it will exist, so if you can trade for young
players, you might as well do it.

This McNeil trial could very well change football as we know it, although
I expect in the end that Upshaw will give in a bit and consent to a
draft in exchange for TRUE free agency, after all the draft is fairly
important in determining a players first contract. If nobody is
drafted, its harder for an agent to convince a team their player is
worth X dollars(at least it occurs to me that it would be).




Russ Smith
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From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: Nightcap Score ...
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:42:52 GMT

Sunday, 13 September - NIGHT GAME
 
        Philadelphia    17
    3   Phoenix         14
 

Bob - still here   :-(

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From: kinosr@rs6109.ecs.rpi.edu (Roy Kiyoshi Kinoshita)
Subject: Money line vs. Point spread
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:10:39 GMT

Does anyone know the money-line equivalent of the point spreads?  Does
the money-line of one team (say, +3) have the same money-line as another
team at +3?  (I would think so, but I may be wrong).

Either post or email.  Thanks.
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From: asagar@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ashish Sagar)
Subject: Re: Final Scores from Week 1
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:58:40 GMT

>Article 25611 of rec.sport.football.pro:
>From: wlittle@nmsu.edu (Wes)

>Ha!!  And the road to the Super Bowl Begins!!!

But will end at CANDLESTICK PARK.

>Go COWBOYS!!!!

-Ashish

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From: daves@meaddata.com (Dave Spencer)
Subject: Re: Merrino Breaks Hearts in Claveland.
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:15:20 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <20341@plains.NoDak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram
Hariharan ) writes:
From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Merrino Breaks Hearts in Claveland.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 08:21:16 EDT
Article-I.D.: plains.20341
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>Dan Merrino brought back painful memmories of the "ELWAY-DRIVE" in
>the AFC-Championship game of the Browns with the Denver as
>he squashed the great come back of those lovable Brownies.
>
>Boy, that dropped touch-down pass in the end-Zone thrown by 
>Kosar proved to be the difference plus some stupid penalties
>given up by the Browns in the Merrino-Drive, else, the game
>COULD have gone to OT.
>
>Boy.... I HATE MERRINO!!!!!!!!     
>
>S.H
>Go Vikes

1) Tell your company to change its name. Higher education includes
   spelling.
2) Touchdown is one word. No hyphen.
3) end-Zone. Two words. No hyphen.
4) Learn the names of the players please.
5) Memmories?? Seems you have run out of that for a spellchecker.
6) Lovable Brownies? Since when are they lovable. As any Browns
   fans will tell you, they are hardly that. More like leave-you-
   on-the-edge, exciting, depressing, hell on earth, hate to love
   'em kind of team. I have been a Browns fans all my life and have
   experienced all these and more. DO NOT call them lovable!!
7) Before you start bringing up painful Browns MEMORIES, of which
   you have no experience, I have a few words for ya, OH FOR FOUR.
   I have some more for you. PITTSBURGH, KANSAS CITY...need I say
   more.
8) The dropped touchdown pass did not do them in. The prevent
   the win defense helped the fins to the end zone.
9) Best game you'll see on Monday Night this year.
10) Stick with the Vikes, they have less letters!!!

(All of the above are in the best taste..humorous, that is.)

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From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
Subject: Re: will Mack be Back?
Originator: bradletm@rastaban
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:04:57 GMT

From article <1992Sep8.212630.25291@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, by rex@cs.washington.edu (Rex Jakobovits):
> 
> Does anybody out there have any idea when Kevin Mack is expected to
> play?  Cleveland's running game sure could use him!  The last I heard,
> he was listed as questionable with a pulled calf.
> 

	Oops!  Did you end up picking this guy up in a Fantasy League or
something?   I could have told you before hand to save your pick...I
expect that at least three other Cleveland RBs will do better than him.
First, "Touchdown" Tommy Vardell...next, James Brooks, and then Leroy
Hoard...and don't forget Eric Metcalf.  Kevin Mack is no longer the back
he used to be.  If he were on my Fantasy team right now, he would be
the next person I dropped.


				- Tim
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From: jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske)
Subject: Re: Buffalo Bills are underdogs
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:52:05 GMT

SFRELIAS@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:


> 
>I can't wait until we play Maimi and beat them again. It is always nice to
>squish that fish. We have enjoyed doing it for the last oh 5,6 years.
> 
Let's think of another nickname for the Dolphins...after all a Dolphin is
a mammal, not a fish :).  I know, I know, "squish that fish" is a very 
catchy line.

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From: mgleason@cse.unl.edu (Mike Gleason)
Subject: Re: Staurovsky was (Patriots News 9/2)
Organization: NCEMRSoft
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:54:46 GMT

rich@quik.clearpoint.com writes:

>Tha Patriots did tell him to take a hike when they signed kicker Charlie 
>Bauman(sp?) 

Just in time!  Staurovsky tanked two field goals against Atlanta.  If he
would have made either of them, the Jets would have tied Atlanta, both they
would have won.  

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