From: pfrankli@well.sf.ca.us (Paul Franklin)
Subject: Bobbie Riconosciuto part one
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Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:59:22 GMT


Date: December 11, 1992
Place: Public Forum, Louden Nelson Center, Santa Cruz, California.

The following information was presented after the break that followed 1.5
hours of lecture from radio personality and historian Dave Emery, speaking
on Nazism and Fascism, and the origins of our current political situation,
beginning with the chaos experienced by various European monarchies during
World War One.

Dave Emery: In attendance this evening are some people that regular
listeners to my program would know or have heard from, but have never had a
chance to see ... And you now have with us the lady in the red hat and red
blouse and red sweater is Virginia McCullough, who has been doing fantastic
research for us for quite some time ... (clapping) ... and she brought with
her someone that I have discussed on the air, in fact she has been the
focal point of much of my recent work.  I've never met her myself, but she
is now before you, and I'll allow Virginia to introduce her, and explain
who that is.

Virginia: The lady in the Christmas sweater is Bobbi Riconosciuto, Michael
Riconosciuto's bride.  Michael, in my opinion anyway, is the gentleman who
single handedly took out Richard Thornburg, Attorney General of the United
States.  Jack Brooks threatened to "clip the wings" of Project Eagle, which
is what Earl Brian desperately wanted for his personal profit, if, in fact,
Richard Thornburg did not produce the INSLAW papers.  They were so damaging
that Richard Thornburg could not.  In possession of the papers, in a safe
house, is Bobbi Riconoscuito, and as a result of a declaration introduced
in Chicago, in a lawsuit of Michael Riconoscuito versus Judge Bua, William
Barr's handpicked investigator to handle the Inslaw case.  On November 12,
Michael R. introduced a devastating declaration that many of you might have
heard about on Dave's show, through Harry Martin, that itemized what he
would do if he were given back the computers necessary to do it with, at
his drug trial in Washington State.  They brought him some computers, but
they didn't bring him the cord to connect them with.  And since my
husband's a Phd. in electrical engineering, I can assure you that he
couldn't produce anything without the proper cords.  Michael has explained
to my Phd. husband exactly what the computers that were seized in the drug
raid in Washington were capable of doing in as far as connecting to the
mainframe.  That's perfectly plausible, in fact it can be done, in fact my
husband was amazed when it was demonstrated how it could be done.  Bobbi
has pictures of the computers that were seized.  Tonight, when I picked her
up, at a safe place, she showed me the pictures of the computers.  Jack
Brooks knows, in the House Judiciary, that those computers exist, knows
what they're capable of, knows that when Michael R. agreed to testify
before the House Judiciary, despite that his children were threatened, he
and his father were threatened with arrest, by our Department of
"Injustice," and I begged, after Bobbi was arrested, and her children taken
from her, on November 12, within hours of the time that Michael R.
introduced this declaration in response to Judge Bua's subpoena.  I asked
her if she would come tonight to speak with Dave Emery, who both Dave and
Kay Martin have been so kind to express in all honesty what has happened to
her.  This is a woman's issue.  They took her children, her three children,
and sent them back with the husband, who is on the record, has abused them,
has beaten her, and has almost cost the life of the child you see in her
arms tonight.

Dave: Before you speak Bobbi, one thing I want to mention briefly.  During
the first part of the discussion - I put my notes aside, I decided what the
heck, I'll just sort of go off the cuff, since I've been studying this for
twenty years.  People might think that a lot of the background that I've
been going into about the development of fascism, and we've just crossed
the World War Two period, and what we're coming into now is the
development, in the immediate post World War Two period of what I've termed
the "National Security State," and during the course of the development of
the National Security State, during the Cold War, basically fascism, a
political system of fascism, a totalitarian, corporate oriented system, has
come to the United States.  One of the casualties of the Cold War was
American Democracy, and during the course of fighting the Cold War, and
setting up the National Security State, this country has become fascist.
Now that might seem cute or ridiculous to some of you, but in the
experiences that have accessed from the situation of the Russbachers,
Michael and Bobbi Riconoscuito, the extraordinary, well, I couldn't call it
legal maneuvering, I should call them illegal maneuvering that has taken
place around them.  In that we can view, in a sense, have a vista on the
depth of lawlessness to which this country has sunk.  And even though Bobbi
R. is the wife, and Rae Russbacher is the wife of key operatives within the
national security establishment, that's why they are on the receiving end
of this kind of malfeasance, it should be understood that the bottom line
in all of this is the old street adage is that what goes around, comes
around.  There is no such thing as a little bit of democracy or a little
bit of Justice.  Justice and democracy are like death and pregnancy.
There's no half way.  You're either dead or alive, you're either pregnant
or you're not pregnant.  There's no such thing as being a little bit
pregnant, or being a little bit dead.  It's the same thing with democracy
and justice.  When a society disintegrates to the point where the sorts of
things that have befallen the Russbachers and the Riconosciutos can happen,
sooner or later, as the noose begins to tighten it, and it's going to, and
that's one of the things I'm going to discuss in the second half of the
lecture.  As the economy disintegrates, and as the world's ecology
disintegrates, the amount of freedom that can be tolerated is going to
disintegrate, and is going to come to a point in the whole process in which
no freedom at all can be permitted to anyone.  This will mark the
conclusion of the political continuum that was introduced by Adolf Hitler,
with his speech to the Industry Club of Dusseldorf, in which he equated
democracy and communism, and said you cannot allow democracy because that
will lead to communism.  The upshot of the line of historical development
that I've been talking about, as it happens here toward the end of 1992, is
where the kinds of things that have befallen the Russbachers and the
Riconosciutos can happen, and I can assure you that just as surely as the
sun rises in the east and sets in the west, ultimately, if the things that
have befallen Russbachers and the Riconosciutos do not happen to you, they
will befall your children or your grandchildren, and that is why you should
become active.
     Bobbi, why don't you take as much time as you want to address the
gathering.  In effect, I could even go this far.  In the rest of the
lecture we'll be talking about is the development from what I've reached so
far and using 21st century technology to limit freedom.  Everything else I
can pretty much develop from this point.  But it's sort of useful in a way,
as well as dramatic situation to have Bobbi here, because I could sit here
and run my mouth until I'm blue in the face, but they say a picture is
worth a thousand words, and this is not to objectify or (muffled) her
situation, but to have a first hand account of what is actually going on,
the state of the disintegration of our democracy as a result of the
historical process I'm outlining, this is a very good opportunity.  So,
take as much time as you want, Bobbi.

(to be continued)

     The right thing to do is never the easiest thing to do.  The
     moral, ethical, and most compassionate imperative from within
     your heart may in fact be the most difficult.  To be informed is
     important, to tell others is even more important, but without
     tangible action, our efforts are meaningless.

     Paul Franklin
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