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From: sher@umbc4.umbc.edu (Sherri Crain)
Subject: Re: GL: Mindy the super Cracker/Lock-picker
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 05:14:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.155553.23183@sequent.com> schalene@sequent.com writes:
>In article <9204071420.AA27268@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> TANTS@DTPVX2.NCIFCRF.GOV ("Tants, Rebecca E.") writes:
>>In article <1992Apr6.235005.21527@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> you write:
>>>In a previous article, TANTS@DTPVX2.NCIFCRF.GOV ("Tants, Rebecca E.") says:
>>>2) So WHAT if Alexandra is Nick's mother?  What's so horrible about that?
>>>I don't think Alexandra wants to replace Nick's "parents."  She just wants
>>>to be part of Nick's life.  And, depriving that of a mother is wicked and
>>
>>You're being much too nice to Alex.  Alex wants to OWN Nick.  To her, the
>>fact that Kip and Mary raised Nick is irrelevent.  He's her son and should
>>forget all about that.

  I think I agree with you that Alex is wanting too much if she expects
Nick not only to accept her as his mother but to forget his parents,the
ones who raised him.  I can understand Alex being angry at her loss,but
she should consider how Nick feels about his parents as well.


>I agree with this (even though I like Alex); she is a control freak.
>And don't you remember her screaming match (one of them anyway) with
>Eric in her living room....I can't remember it word for word but she
>pretty much trashed Kip and Mary McHenry.  Something about how could 
>a man buy another woman's son and how could a women not care about 
>another's woman's pain.  

  I had to agree with Alex on this one.  She's right to trash Kip for
buying her son.  Kip never stopped to consider the pain that it would
cause the mother (Alex) in the long run.  He was completely self-
centered,he wanted to give his wife a child because she was so depressed
about not being able to carry one full term.  Although I can understand
his desire to help his wife,he should've gone through the regular,proper
adoption channels like everyone else.

>Alex does want to own Nick -- its her 
>definition of love -- If they ever got close, everytime he mentioned 
>his "parents" or had a fond memory, she would try to destroy his feelings 
>for them.  Its just the way she is.

I don't think Alex wants to "own" Nick. She very much needs him to accept
her as his mother,which is perfectly natural given that she IS his mother.
Put yourself in her position.  How would you feel if your son, the most
person in your life, died and years later you realize you've got
a second chance,only to be denied that chance because your son will not
accept you as a friend,let alone as his mother! I'm not defending Alex's
actions,so far as her getting Nick's job pulled out from under him,etc..
I'm simply trying to explain her need to be accepted as Nick's mother.

I also understand her desire to keep Mindy away from Nick...I wouldn't
want a bimbo like Mindy marrying my son!

-- 

     Lack of planning on your part                 -sher   
doesn't justify an emergency on my part     sher@umbc3.umbc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: dian@cs.caltech.edu (Dian De Sha)
Subject: DOOL: Another scenario for Carly
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:49:18 GMT


First I wondered if Danielle could be the half sister of Katerina, 
born to the Von Lochner maid and fathered by her employer (K's dad).

That still seems possible, but I now suddenly wonder if perhaps Dani's
mother, the maid, switched the two girls at birth to give her daughter
(Katerina) a better life, and then stayed on to watch her child grow
up in the wealthy household.  Then when she got fired (perhaps for `
Dani's childish theft), and thus prevented from watching over her
own daughter, she got vengeful and turned Dani to getting even by 
ripping off the Alamains and Von Lochners, thus, creating Romulus.
Perhaps the literary allusion of Romulus and Remus is referring to
Dani and Carly, and they chose females just to throw us off the track.

In the original story, the twins are the sons of a Vestal Virgin
(not supposed to have kids) and Mars.  Ultimately, Romulus kills
Remus.  (That might work in a Lawrence/Forrest connection?)

Other thoughts, anyone?
____
Dian
From: lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Liz Fox)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: A Few Spoilers, Al Rabin Quits
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:04:22 GMT
Organization: Office of the Dean - CFA, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 09-Apr-92 in Re: DOOL: A Few Spoilers, A..
user Tammy Laird@brahms.udel. writes:
>On another note, when I got home last night, my husband said that I just
>missed Patsy Pease on the Maury Povich show.  Naturally, he didn't record
>it, and he couldn't remember what was said.  Did anyone else happen to see
>it?  If so, could you post an update.

Peachy - Ibelieve yesterday's show was a rerun of an earlier show with
Patsy where she tells of the horrors of her childhood and how she was
abused by her mother.  Spud was nice enough to send me a copy of the
show if you are interested.

BananaRama
From: v070n53b@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MARK PRZYBYSZEWSKI)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Updater needed
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:23:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr15.200439.16909@reed.edu>, terra@reed.edu (Terra Goodnight) writes...
> 
>Updater needed for permanent replacement on Tuesdays.  My school demands are
>just getting prohibitive.  Is there anyone who's been dying to do the updates???
>Maybe two or three people can split the duties.  
> 
>Granma & Amanda have been subbing for me, so if either of them wants the job
>full-time,  they've got first pick, but if they don't want it, anyone else 
>should email or post, just in case.
> 
>Thanks a lot!
>Terra Goodnight

I realize they have first call, but sooner or later I'd really love to do an
update.  If not now, in the near future.  PLEASE????

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Mark Przybyszewski 	v070n53b@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu	v070n53b@ubvms.bitnet +
+ 				GO BILLS IN '92!			      +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ I may not be the president, I may not be the pope, but as long as I have    +
+ Gritty Kitty, I shall never mope!	Stimpson J. Cat, Ren and Stimpy	      +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: beth@mips.com (Beth Van Eman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: writer's lurking (SOs)???
Date: 10 Apr 1992 16:54:55 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: ralph.mips.com

In article <1992Apr8.214435.6643@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> ajw@decoy.uucp (25482-siegel) writes:
>
>This happened on Loving, but I thought all might be interested:
>
>A couple of episodes ago, the character who plays Alyson's sorority 
>"big sister" pointed out her "S.O". "S.O.?" Alyson asked.  "Yes," the 
>big sister replied, "As in Significant Other."
>
>Has this phrase been incorporated into everyday dialogue now? Or is 
>this direct proof of more writer lurking????

I think Significant Other is fairly common, but maybe that's because
I'm from California. :-)    I'm pretty sure I've had that expression
in my vocabulary since gosh, at least '83.  But I noticed Opal referred
to Palmer as her "Better Half" and to me that seemed like proof since
I've not heard many people use that expression except here on the net.
But perhaps that's because I hang out with egotistical people who don't
think they're SO is a "Better Half". :-)    (To tell you the truth, I
sort of like to think of myself as whole).  
-Beth Van Eman
 beth@mips.com
From: PRH100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: KL: Frank Looks Ill
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:20:31 GMT
 <1992Apr3.211638.25403@cbfsb.cb.att.com> <17148@fritz.filenet.com>
Organization: Penn State University

The actor who plays Frank (Larry ??) has had kidney problems which is why he
lost so much weight.
--PHarlan
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL -- Friday (4/10)
From: vectrgsj@VAX.CSUN.EDU (GSAIDJOHNSON)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:08:02 GMT
Reply-To: vectrgsj@VAX.CSUN.EDU
Organization: Cal State Northridge

In article <1992Apr13.141049.10740@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>, rlrauscher@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Rebecca Rauscher) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.053020.20422@gmuvax2.gmu.edu>, stapleto@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Kathy Stapleton) writes:
>> Carlee and her flashbacks?  Haven't TPTB bombarded us with ENOUGH of
>>      Grapefruit... heading for the weekend.... :)
>
>Could someone please clear something up for me?  What does TPTB stand for?  I'm
>pretty sure TPTB=the writers, but is this short for something?
>			Thanks in advance,
>                                  rr (the REAL Rebecca)

It took me awhile to figure this out -- but I believe it means "the powers 
that be".

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From: renee@ms.uky.edu (Renee M. Wright)
Subject: Re: DOOL -- Danielle vs. Ickenstein
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:22:52 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Bytes: 

To the person who commented that Izzy trapped John, when was the last
time someone got pregnant on purpose and then considered an abortion.
Seems like a contradiction to me.

I'm not saying that Izzabella has lied, but who hasn't on a soap.  In
my opinion, there is no chemistry between John and Danielle.  Since I
believe that Danielle is Romulus and she has kept that from him and we
know that she is keeping something important from him, then I don't
like it.  I still don't think she loves him either.
From: m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov (Wayne C. Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Wayne's World returneth
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:40:59 GMT
	<M1WCC00.92Apr6150243@mcfcs1.fed.frb.gov>
Distribution: na
Organization: Federal Reserve Board
In-reply-to: m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov's message of 6 Apr 92 19:02:43 GMT

In article <M1WCC00.92Apr6150243@mcfcs1.fed.frb.gov> m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov (Wayne C. Cook) writes:


/  This is really a test, but I can do that and make a comment at the same
/  time.  New Galen = hot attitude, hot bod, luke looks, better acting.
/  Old Galen = vanilla lines, unknown but suspect bod, great face, inconsistent
/  but amusing acting (kept you on your toes).  Right now I kinda miss Ms. USA.
/  Hope this works.

Gosh.  Guess I'm back.  Think I've been AWOL for 6 months or more.  Got lots
of excuses but the top few would be:  A) system problems  2) no time  and
III) basketball (play, watch, bet, live, breathe, -- NBA, NCAA, Two old farts
on pay per view, anything!).  Anyway, glad to be back.  Hopefully I'll be able
to make opinionated and occassionally insightful posts on a more regular 
basis (Oh joy!).       

PS> Of course you all know I was also fairly busy making a movie ;^)

Wayne's World.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: kjs@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (kelly.smith)
Subject: Re: DOOL: A Few Spoilers, Al Rabin Quits
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:08:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.034455.7716@panix.com>, spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:
> 
> Al Rabin has quit; he will be gone as of June 1st.  He is reportedly leaving
> because he and Ken Corday weren't getting along at this point.  Let's all hope
> that this will mean an end to Days Of Our Carly, and that this show can move
> on to better times.

	Anyone wanna join me in the dance of joy?
> 
> John demands to know the truth - yes, the real truth - yes, this time, the
> real real truth - from Dani.  Like were they really married and what does 
> she know about his past.  Later in the week, Dani tries convincing John 
> to let her escape.  John says he'll allow her to go only if she supplies him  
> with the missing half of the locket.  Meanwhile, Vivian tells Larry that if   
> John does have the missing half of the locket he could very well be      
> Lawrence's brother.

	I LOVE it!  I like both guys and to see them wrestle with
	this would be very entertaining.

> Bo is very upset when he learns Carly's secret, but by the end of the
> week he realizes that their relationship is all important to him and he
> forgives her.

	Oh for crying out loud.  I am so sick of Carleee and Bo it's
	a shame.  I really liked both characters at one point but all
	Bo does is cradle Carly and her emotions.  And all Carly does
	is look secretive.  While I think RKK is gorgeous and a good
	actor, Bo sucks.  This is MY opinion.  Carleee is annoying as
	hell.  I would very much like to see both actors married, or
	whatever and the next romantic couple started.  I mean, who
	have we seen together that way other than these two.  I mean as
	soon as J&J were married that was it, they were put on back
	burner status.  I think its high time that Rafi and someone
	get involved.  (what can I say, I REALLY like him)  Or even
	Julie and Chip (even though I'm not sold on these two being
	together).  Or Marcus and Glynnis.  What I mean is ANYONE!
> 
> Larry and Lisanne form an alliance to wrest control of the Spectator.
> 
	Will that mean more Jack!!?? (wish wish)

> Gavin tells Tanner that he should split from Molly.

	Oh yuck.  Again here's another story that's been dragging
	along at a snails pace.  While it's nice to see a romantic
	relationship develop slowly this is absolutely ridiculous.
	These two have shared two kisses (I completely forgot about
	the one in the back of the van {wonder why}, thanks, was that
	Gail?) and they both act like it never happened.  These two
	have both been on for what seems like a long time.  Why is
	it taking so long?  I have had relationships that have come
	and gone faster than these two.  And they aren't even starting
	yet.

	
> Well, the rest I posted last week, so that's all.
> 
	Your posts are wonderful.  Thanks.
> 
> Greg 
> -- 

	These are my opinions and I will continue to rant and rave
	about the characters I don't like until someone tells me to
	shut up.  So there ;-)

	Kelly Jean

	PS  Tim, add me to the 50 state list for New Jersey.
From: pinyan@bonnie.Corp.Sun.COM (Ann Pinyan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL:  About time for a murder.
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:06:26 GMT
Reply-To: pinyan@bonnie.Corp.Sun.COM
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bonnie.corp.sun.com

In article 25600@microsoft.com, sunni@microsoft.com (Sunni HOLLAND) writes:
>>In article <1992Mar20.193930.505@b15.b15.ingr.com>, lynn@b15.b15.ingr.com (Lynn Lee) writes:
	stuff deleted...
>>
>>I don't know why I even bother reading these posts.  I've noticed that new
>>people seem to only post once. (Especially if they like Isabella, Carly, etc.)
>>because they effectively get ripped to pieces.  I hope you all enjoy
>>yourselves.
>>
>>Judy Zeitler
>>
>AMEN Judy!!!!
>
>I never post becuase I don't think I have an audience to post to. The only
>reason that I have been reading lately is to get updates or try to
>catch some spoilers. The only thing is, you have to wade through so
>much crap to get to them. It especcially annoys me when it says spoilers
>or update in the subject line and then ends up being some bullsh*t
>kill off carly and isabella fantasy post.
>
>Yes, I have been finding this goup less a-"peel"-ing lately too, if
>you catch my drift.
>
>Sunni


Another AMEN from me.  I used to read this quite frequently because I
like hearing new theories and most of them are good and entertaining,
but I'm really sick of the character/actor slashing of the same people
over and over.  A good deal of what these characters are is determined
by the writing (like Carrie taking the bug from Raffi's room).  And, if
you all hate the characters and the writing so bad, then watch
something else.  I have been a DOOL fan for many years and still enjoy
it.  Sure there are bad actors and bad characters, but it is
entertaining.  Perhaps you all expect too much from a TV SHOW!

As for the Carly and Isabella bashing, could it be that all these
posters are jealous?  They are both quite beautiful, and great
actresses as well.  I suppose you would all prefer the unchanging face
of John Black (Stevens) to the expressive face of Carly.

Everyone has his or her own opinions, but the negative ones in this
newsgroup seem to far outweigh the positive.  Is this because the
differing viewpoints get shot to hell by an overwhelming majority?

Ann
From: v127mhgk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (APRIL N. EZZELL)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Doesn't anyone watch EASTENDERS!!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I am one of the few serious Eastenders fans and I try never to miss a show.
However, I couldn't catch the last two episodes about Disa and her baby
which was returned by Disa's father, the only thing that I remember after that
was Ethyl's birthday party and Diane's boyfriend (who incidentally has AIDS)
getting involved with someone else.

Isn't there anyone that can fill me in from there, it will be greatly 
appreciated.  

To all of those people that like a really good soap opera, this soap is 
a British drama about people that live in Albert's Square in London's
Eastend, this is a real life drama filled with intrigue and climax, as 
well as "real life" problems that "real" people experience and it
doesn't compare with any of those regular American soaps because it's 
REAL.

So, if you and EASTENDERS fan put some posts up and let me know what is going
on, it's important to me.

--April @ there
From: mfinn@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mai-Ly Finn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R CARS
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:29:33 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <92098.105512KOSOBUD@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> KOSOBUD@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>I never pictured Victor driving a Rolls Royce but I
>guess he does seem the type. I thought Jack looked
>natural in his Mercedes Benz though.
>What kind of cars do you think the rest of the
>characters drive?

What also got me was the license plates...Jack's:  "JABOT 1" and Victor's
"V NEWMAN".  Also Wisconsin plates.  Like people that rich would actually
put their names on their plates.

Mai-Ly
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: amym@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Amy Moseley Rupp)
Subject: Re: DOOL: Hey, let's be nice to each other...
Reply-To: amym@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Amy Moseley Rupp)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:55:50 GMT

I posted once before about the negativism in this group and got a reply
that basically summarized the right to free speech.

fine.

I think what I, and maybe what many, people dislike about this group is
not really the negativism, but the HUGE bandwidth wasted (IMHO) on postings
that should be kept to e-mail, i. e. personal stuff.

The TAN subject line is a good idea; however, I want to follow some tangents
and not others; so using TAN in a kill file would remove too much information.
Those of you who are in the Peel family have every right to discuss your
ideas; however, when a whole post is devoted to non-DOOL information, it
no longer belongs in the soap opera group.  You should e-mail it instead;
start a Peel family mailing list; or at least include "peel" in the
subject line so that those of us who are not in the Peel family don't
have to read through posts that are not meant for us.  Reading such posts
only gives me a sense of cliquish-ness (word?) because I don't feel like
I don't belong here.

Attacking people who criticize your posts for whatever reason only enhances
the feeling that this group has turned away from its purpose--discussing
soap operas, specifically DOOL, and instead is a mouthpiece for a few of
its readers.  This is probably not the case, but it is the feeling I get.
Saying things like "don't read the posts" is fine, but not if it means
not reading the newsgroup just to escape the extraneous postings.

Finally, the volume of quoted material is HUGE!  Some newsreaders will
not let you post unless 50% or more of your post is "original" or the
newsreader can't figure out that you are quoting, because you've done it
by hand.  I don't favour this restriction all the time, but PLEASE, when
you quote, cut down others' .sigs to one line (with their name) rather
than re-including it in your post.  Only quote the minimum material necessary
to get your point across.

I don't have anything personal against any of you--how could I?  I don't
know you!  But this newsgroup could use some consideration by those who
use it.  Please be careful what you post--not only is it expensive, it
forces people to wade through things that aren't even intended for them
(i. e. Peel family) *or* that they have already seen (quotes).

In rec.sports.baseball, the readers limit most interpersonal talk to
one or two lines, usually after their name, like this:

John Doe
"The best thing that can be said about Jack Doe is that he is an athletic 
supporter."

Where John and Jack Doe are two different, regular posters.

Yet another Amy, from Texas this time.
From: mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: SPOILER - My first attempt
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:12:00 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr4.060423.3040@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:
>In <92093.184532NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>
>>This was probably covered by Greg Spira in his list of spoilers which
>>he posts out of the goodness of his heart without asking anything in
>>return, 
>
>Actually, I'm being blackmailed into it by Tim.  You see he has these
>photos........  

The photos are nothing compared to the videotape.  Now, unless you want
the whole net to know about your shortcomings :-) you had best get
cracking on some new spoilers, preferably ones that include Desiree.


>Just to be technical, I thought I'd note that I don't get my information
>ONLY from Prodigy.  I get a lot of it there, but I also take stuff from Genie,
>random other bulletin boards, real magazines, tabloids, television reports,
>whatever I see/hear/psychically absorb.

                                        .....dream up.......


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From: alex@donne.unx.sas.com (Alexandra Bost)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC TAN In defense of updaters
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:26:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
X-Bytes: 1092

In article <kumncsINNnu6@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison) writes:
>
>     I'm just writing to defend myself and the other updaters.  Every
>now and then I'll see a posting asking where an update is.  Sometimes
>this makes sense -- if it's Tuesday and you haven't seen Thursday's
>update that might be cause for concern -- however, PLEASE give the
>updaters some time (I'd day 36 hours is fair) before you start asking
>about the updates.

I usually watch AMC at lunch on my little 2" WatchMan on "Update Day"
so I can post in a timely manner.  However, if I am busy or in a 
meeting, I usually need 36 hours to post -- I think that's a very 
fair time limit, Mary!  

I really liked those weekly Prodigy Updates -- it summarized the 
entire week in a single post.  [I am sorry, but I forgot who posts 
these!]  Anyway, I'd really like to see those continue... 


Alex
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