HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: British Pronounciation
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:29:10 GMT

In <1992Jul21.235413.6706@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:


>In article <1992Jul21.231444.3167@macc.wisc.edu>
>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>>Then there's the famous Dallasites, sisters named Hogg: Ima
>>and Yura (truth, I swear; I was even introduced to Ima
>>once).

>Houstonians, I believe; at least that's where I met IH after
>a concert she sponsored.

Ima existed.  But Ura was truly urban legend.

--Cindy
--

*  I would rather that a bigot thought I was a lesbian than that a
*  lesbian thought I was a bigot.        -- Tovah Hollander
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From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Subject: Re: I HATE GAY MEN.
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:26:30 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer):
>>the essay was extremely slanted and one-dimensional, but
>>there was a lot in it that i identified with.
> 
> Yeah, but the difference is that I don't give a fuck
> about what these other people do.  I especially wouldn't
> whine about it.  It's hard to piss and moan about pissy
> queens without getting yourself wet in the process.

well then, there's no need for you to enter a discussion,
now is there?  looks like the problem is solved, honcho.

i have a hard time believing you're a member of the target
group anyway.  unless, of course, you go to the gym 3-5
times a week, go dancing until 8am in the morning every
weekend, "stoned" on Extasy, shirt removed to reveal
rippling muscles.  of course, i *have* been wrong in the
past, but i envision you in this lifestyle about as much
as i envision Billy The Kid wasting nights with Nintendo's
"Throwdown At The OK Corral."  :-)

> You mean people are like that OUTSIDE of SF and NYC???

CRAAAAAAAAAAZYYYYYY!  isn't it?  Queers these days.
-- 
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
Queer Without A Cause!
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Subject: Re: There was this sign in the window...
Keywords: @$#!% NewsWatcher bug...
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:49:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.142359.27502@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:
>In article <nj7e8jc@fido.asd.sgi.com> dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
>>If I find a straight man who harasses women, I
>>make a point of harassing him.
>
>How fucking chivalrous of you.


Well, when straight men blush, I get amused...


FWA


Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Gayspace
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 02:50:10 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <2A7490F6.23411@noiro.acs.uci.edu> cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl 
Edman) writes:
>
>Are you _really_ unable to make a better argument ? In that case, I will ask  
>you not to follow up to this post.

That and 50 cents will buy you a coffee.  What makes you think that he will
pay any attention to you, or even that he should?

>In case you just misunderstood me, I'll try to make my point once again without  
>using any stylistic devices. Do you think that it is right if the government  
>uses taxpayer funds to make political messages ?
>If so, do you also think that  
>this is right if the government uses its fund to propagate political messages  
>with which you disagree but which are supported by the local majority ? To give  
>a simple example, would you consider it right if George Bush used federal  
>government funds to pay for his re-election campaign ?

Are you really so out of touch with reality that you think he doesn't? 
Not directly, probably, but certainly indirectly. 

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ok, my thoughts about the con (was Re: Well, God Damn It!
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:40:23 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Jul30.142953.12124@osf.org>

Robert Coren writes:
>> Of course, it was the absolute *last* thing that should have been
>> done to challenge me to drop my pants.
>
>I don't know why you say that. It had the desired effect, didn't it?

I suppose my phrasing is a bit off... It's not so much of a
"challenge" in that I have *no* shame, and dropping my pants
on a clothing-optional beach isn't anything even APPROACHING
a strain on my psyche.

As I said at the time, I'm just not a sun/sand/beach kind
of Bear.

I'm *STILL* looking forward to the photographs.  ;-{)##]
 
() America's freedom is the example to which the world
() expires.
()      -- George Bush
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: sik@cci632.cci.com (Shawn Kammerdiener)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The sexiest man on TV
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:57:49 GMT
Organization: CCI

In article <1992Jul21.191241.14212@watson.ibm.com> jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin) writes:
>
>umm, i didn't say that "someone is an idiot because they're straight."
>i said that someone is an idiot if they tell us they're straight in a
>space considered to be ours.  it's offensive, and i demand more human

	Why is a simple statement of fact so offensive to you? It defines
an aspect of his person that may help us understand more clearly the
things that he writes here. A strayt perspective is somewhat different
than ours and knowing his perspective is key to understanding how he
thinks and feels when he writes here. This space is 'ours' only in that
it contains a discussion of things that relate to and affect the gay
community at large. The last I knew, all were welcomed here if they
were participating positively in the discussions, whether their
orientation was public knowledge or not.

>behavior from you.  got it?

	If by human behaviour you presume that I will acquiesce to you as
the arbiter of good taste and what is considered 'offensive', I will not.

If you wish to discuss why a simple statement of fact that someones
orientation differs from your own causes you such inordinate amounts
of discomfort, that I will.

"Anger and intolerance are the twin enemies of correct understanding."
		-		Mahatma Gandhi
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: larry@bradley.bradley.edu (Larry D. Stratton)
Subject: Re: P-FLAG national offices
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:41:35 GMT

In <70434@apple.Apple.COM> brad@Apple.COM (Brad Zaller) writes:
>larry@bradley.bradley.edu (Larry D. Stratton) writes:
>>   Does anyone have or know the address/phone of the national
>>   offices of P-FLAG?
>You can reach the main P-FLAG office at:
>   National Federation of Parents and Friends of Lesbians and Gays
>   P.O. Box 27605
>   Washington, DC  20038-7605
>   (800) 4-FAMILY
>You can locate the chapter nearest you by calling the above number.  They
>have implemented an automated system whereby you simply enter your
>three-digit area code and an automated voice will tell you how to
>contact your local P-FLAG chapter.  Pretty nifty stuff...
   Tried it.  It is nifty......

   Thanks.
From: wells@cdsmn.mn.org (Rich Wells)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Do You Remember any Gay/Lesbian Characters on TV Series?
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:40:50 GMT
Reply-To: wells@cdsmn.UUCP (Rich Wells)
Organization: Dicomed, Inc., Burnsville, MN

In article <2512@uswnvg.uswnvg.com> scott@uswnvg.com.UUCP (Scott Eckelman) writes:
>
>What about Doctor, Doctor?  The brother of the main character was gay.
>

I thought of two more examples of gay characters on TV that I don't
think anyone mentioned yet:

(1)  There was a character on ThirtySomething who was gay.  In fact, I
believe they lost some sponsors for one episode because one scene showed
him and his lover in bed together.

(2)  There was a sitcom on Showtime called Brothers, in which a gay
character (or two?) was (were?) quite prominent.  Anyone remember the
name of the actor?  It's on the tip of my fingers, but I can't think
of it.  Micheal Philip Something, or Philip Michael Something, or
some such?
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz)
Subject: Gay Beer
Keywords: gay, marketing, beer
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:19:56 GMT


(Pinched without permission from the Kitchener-Waterloo Record)
 
  Thanks to Brick Brewing, gays and lesbians can now drink beer 
with pride.

  The Waterloo brewery is producing a new beer for the gay 
community.  It's called Pride and is sold in bottles and on draft 
in about 25 gay and lesbian bars across southern Ontario.

  The label features a pink triangle, a symbol of gay pride.

  Bob Amyotte, a Toronto bar owner, approached Brick with the 
idea of brewing a beer that bar owners could use to raise funds 
for the gay community.

  "The thing is there is always a fund-raiser going around and 
people are asked to give and give," he said.  "We saw this as a 
way they could give without really feeling that they are giving."

  Amyotte, who owns the rights to the name and label design, said 
he pitched the idea to Brick because the brewery's sales repre-
sentative happened to be in his bar when he thought of it.

  "We told them: `If you supply the art for it, we'll be glad to 
do it,'" Fred Gallaugher, Brick's sales manager, said Thursday.  
"It is not something we have been ramming down anyone's throat.  It 
is just that we beleive it is a good marketplace to sell beer in."

  Sales of Pride, which Gallaugher describes as a Canadian style 
lager, total about 400 cases a month.  That represents less than 
one percent of the brewery's average monthly production.

  Gallaugher said the gay and lesbian community represents a sig-
nificant market, but one that is probably too small for Labatt's 
and Molson's to go after.  He estimated that Toronto's 25 gay bars 
sell 12,000 to 13,000 cases of beer a month.

  "I guess we are innovators and we are small enough that we can 
do these things," Gallaugher said.

  A share of the profits from the sale of Pride will go to the Gay 
and Lesbian Community Appeal, a Toronto charity that provides financial 
support for the development of gay theatre, art, film and literature.

  Cicelyf McWilliam, the charity's administrative director, said 
Brick's decision to appeal to the gay community "is a good move."

  "We have encountered so much abuse and ignorance and oppression 
that the first companies that start to recognize us and market to us 
are going to notice a great swell in loyalty," she said.

  "Gallaugher said Brick has received a crank call about Pride, but 
doesn't expect a backlash from its customers.

  "I think people are grown up enough to accept everyone," he said.  
"It's just another segment of the market."
 

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From: michael@xon.co.uk (Michael J Marshall)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Job Offer
Summary: Computer job offered in London
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:54:21 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: X-ON Software - London, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I am posting this on behalf of my company.

Computer communications software house based in the City requires one or
two people for full- or part-time employment. Individual(s) will work with
customers to define and develop new services; system-manage a number of
UNIX systems worldwide; to keep the accounts and general office work.

CV's should be sent to the attention of John Coll at the address below. All
queries would of course be best handled via telephone or e-mail.

Thank you, and good luck.
Michael

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=   X-ON Software - 21 Great Tower St, London EC3R 5AQ ENGLAND
=   H 071 281 7056 - W 071 522 0088
= Last night I played poker with a deck of Tarot cards -
= I got a full house and four people died - Steven Wright
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: HIV- cases of full blown AIDS?
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:04:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Jul21.060449.1277
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Jul21.004753.9148@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:

>Unfortunitly the more frightening possibility is probably the truth,
>my guess is that HIV has mutated to a form thats not being recognized
>by the current tests. Since HIV takes 5 years or longer to have an
>effect this new version has probably been spreading unoticed for 1/2 a
>decade.

Larry, do you have any evidence at all for this? Or are you just
spreading random AIDS hysteria? Are you going to explain how AIDS is
germ warfare from the US government next?

AIDS is a disease. Diseases need to be understood and explained by
facts, not unfounded supposition.

AIDS is a social phenomenon. It is an example of the apalling lack of
compassion of the government of the United States of America. The
facts are strong enough to convict the Reagan administration of
inhumanity; you don't need to spread unsupported rumours.

>[An article] said that the heterosexual AIDS epidemic in Africa is not
>just a matter of STD's as had been thought before, but is infact a new
>more contagious form of HIV.

where did you see this article, and exactly what did it say?
-- 
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                                        All things are true
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: GCN Community Mtg. 7/23
Organization: QueerNet
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 04:02:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.182227.4636@kronos.com> richb@kronos.com (Rich Braun) writes:
>it's apparent to me that we don't need just another gay weekly in Boston.

True, but BAY WINDOWS is the one you *don't* need.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG                 {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!mips!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Gay martial artists (was Re: aikido!)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:37:46 GMT

dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>In article <1992Jul30.225047.7741@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>>In article <l7gk16INN2e9@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:

>>>>Seriously hon, have you considered getting fucked? You've been
>>>>awfully crabby lately.
>>>You know, you just might have, ahem, put your finger on it.  Anyone
>>>care to volunteer his services?
>>You're the one who didn't show up at the con, dear, not us :-)

>There did seem to be an awful lot of that going on.

I simply *must* dish about this... I know who all boinked who in a
small group of people including the people I hung out with at the con
and everyone in the two or three hotel rooms that had to be strategically
distributed among couples/triples (!!) so we all could have a room to
ourselves (mmm, what a fun kinda pajama game!!!), and of course
there's always R*-J** and C**** (names obscured to protect the unrepent-
antly slutty) (BTW, C****, write me, okay? I don't know your email
address...), but who else paired? Who boinked Granma? Did anyone snare
some of the hot locals or *way* foreigners? Who? What? When? Which lubes?
(If you'd rather not talk about this on an open forum, just tell *me*.
Then it'll all be safe.)

John: Unrepentant Homosexual. Shameless Hussy. Future Gossip Columnist.

--
John Dorrance    ** Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico **    thaaang@odin.unomaha.edu

		I always thought of you as my brick wall
		   Built like an angel, six feet tall.
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From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: soc.motss,talk.politics.misc,rec.arts.tv,alt.individualism,rec.arts.tv.uk,alt.activism,rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Gayspace (was Re: Do You Remember... and Re: On Banning Private Discrimination)
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:33:45 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <l7at5tINNrnd@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.094019.14254@cs.hw.ac.uk> 
>neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
>| In article <l76cdcINN1l6@mizar.usc.edu> 
>| adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>| >
>| >Last night I had dinner at my (West Hollywood) neighborhood
>| >hangout.  It's a large, noisy, cruisy, gay Mexican restaurant
>| >whose food is mediocre, but whose margaritas are *faaabulous*. 
>|
>| Do you want to stop cross-posting this shit to sewsgroups that it doesn't
>| concern.
>|
>| Seriously, get a life punk.
>
>This isn't exactly the language Neil used in his letter
>to me.  I think he called my post "fag shit".  But I could
>be wrong.
>
>Drop dead, asshole.

That was a *personal letter* and that was the *only addition* compared
to the above post.

Go back to you'll own crap newsgroups and leave us in peace little boy.

Neil
From: gklein@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Gary Klein, bear at heart)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Unitarian Universalists vote pro-LGB
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:06:16 EST
Organization: Carlson Library, Univ of Toledo

In article <1992Jul23.140935.19892@bradley.bradley.edu>, 
   larry@bradley.bradley.edu (Larry D. Stratton) writes:
> In <92204.161849IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Ailsa N.T. Murphy 
     <IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
> 
>>yay!  granted, this is my church, and i wouldn't ever have considered
>>beig a member if they DIDN'T have this attitude, but it is great to
>>hear it nonetheless...  now if only THOSE OTHERS would get a clue...
>>                                     -ailsa
> 
>    There are quite a few of us UUs about.  Gee, I wonder why?  =) 

     Come on you UU'ers, show us your Nametag!

(for the clueless out there, this is an insider's joke)

     Rather than have a Soc.Motss dim sum, the UU.Motss should have a
pot-luck dinner!     

-- 
                                               "Librarian, Leather bound"
Gary Klein,   Business Librarian,  (Univ of Toledo)           * * * * 
PO Box 12650                  Toledo OH  43606-0250            *   *   
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From: adye@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Alan Dye)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:51:22 GMT
Subject: Re: the darkness in my heart
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: soc.motss

I am touched.  Sitting here at my desk, reading this,  I'm taken back to
my teen years.  Your posting was truly beautiful.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
Subject: Re: the new innocent
Originator: elf@halcyon.com
Reply-To: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
Organization: Pendor, UnLtd.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:21:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.051512.4992@menudo.uh.edu>
     elee74l@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:

>Tsk, tsk...  I don't think I would ever request a girl to do me this favor. 
>She might think I am freaking wierd.

   Some of us don't have this problem.  Some of us prefer our dates to
know we're weird from the get-go.  "You know I sleep with guys AND
girls?  And that I like whips and chains?  And that I own a strap-on
dildo, in case you're interested..."

   By the way, a woman with a strap-on *is* spiritually different from
a man.

>While reading this, I keep imagining a phone conversation that goes:

>"Hey, Cindy.  Before you come over, bring with you a fake penis.  Mine
>can't reach my ass.  c(-8 "

   Been there, done that.  _My_ favorite phone conversation has to be
"Elf?  Could you and Brian come over to my house so me and my
girlfriends could watch you guys fuck?"

         Elf !!!
-- 
Elf Sternberg    __   |     I have looked into the abyss, and the abyss
elf@halcyon.com  \/   | has looked into me.  Neither liked what we saw.
elf@polari.online.com |                              - Brother Theodore
From: rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why?
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:03:35 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Francisco

> richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel) writes:
>I heard on the radio this morning that Bank of America and Wells Fargo
>are thinking about retracting their ban on funding BSA.  This was due,
>it was reported, to the hundreds of negative phone calls they have
>received.

It's not so much the phone calls, it's the accounts worth
millions of dollars that are being closed.  But a more
detailed report in today's SF Examiner shows that it's
only Wells Fargo that's publicly waffling over the issue,
although the local BSA council is claiming both banks are.
A BSA spokesperson said they were working with the banks
to find a solution that helps them "save face".  Bank of
America issued a statement saying they stand by their
stated policy not to fund the Scouts as long as they
discriminate.

Two other major SF-based corporations, Pacific Telesis
(Pacific Bell's owner) and Pacific Gas & Electric (PG&E),
have recently stated that they will continue to fund the
Scouts, claiming that the good that they do in the
community outweighs any misgivings they might have about
their discriminatory policies.


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