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From: Paul.Gronke@launchpad.unc.edu (Paul Gronke)
Subject: QVTNet 3.03: What has been fixed
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:06:14 GMT

Version 3.0.3

=============
Fixes a number of bugs relating to FTP:

* Attempting to close WinQVT/Net with a live FTP session present caused
the system to hang

* Directory listings and downloaded files truncated

* Slow upload performance
==============

(This is from the RELNOTES.WRI file.  The program will still hang norton
desktop if you attempt to REREAD QVTHOST.RC file.)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: WPWin version?
From: pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu (Paul MacFarlane)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:16:15 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

slqn0@cc.usu.edu (Hoyt J. Heaton) writes:
> 
> Could someone tell me what the latest version of Word Perfect for Windows is?
> Mine has the following date: 4/30/92
I believe you have the most current date (except that WPWin is coming out
with a new version - 5.2 - sometime this month)

Paul MacFarlane
Danville, California
pmacfar@eis.calstate.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: (Tim Keitt)
Subject: re: Unix Windows for win 3.1
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 21:11:48 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque NM
Reply-To: tkeitt@algodones.unm.edu

In article <1992Nov21.210438.9937@umbc3.umbc.edu> gottlieb@umbc8.umbc.edu (Robert Gottlieb) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>I'm looking for the server for Unix Windows for Win 3.1. 
>I'm using an SGI based system.  Last I heard it wasn't sysv
>compatible.  Does anyone know if a new version has come out
>since then and if there is an ftp site where I can find it?
>
>If there is an faq I could look this up in, plese just
>send me email telling me where it is, so as not to waste bandwidth.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Robert
>-- 
>Robert Gottlieb
>gottlieb@umbc7.umbc.edu or robertg@cs.umbc.edu
>"Not gonna do it.. wouldn't be prudent..."
>Not umbc's opinion.  

I've never heard of Unix Windows for Win 3.1. What is it? 
Sounds interesting -- could you elaborate a bit.
Thanks.

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From: axa12@po.cwru.edu (Ashok Aiyar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: re: QVT_Net 3.0 Bug Report?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:54:40 GMT
Organization: CWRU School of Medicine
NNTP-Posting-Host: axa12-slip.dialin.cwru.edu

In article <1992Nov16.145100.24130@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 
	carter@cemvax.cem.msu.edu (Tom Carter) writes:

>In article <6908@news.duke.edu> gronke@acpub.duke.edu (Paul Gronke) writes:
>>The newest version of QVT_Net is available on cica.  I have one
>>potential bug to report.  When I choose the File/Reread QVTHOST.RC
>>option, I get a General Protection Fault on QVT_Net, then I get a
>>General Protection Fault for Norton Desktop.  Windows/NDW crashes.
>> 
>>I should add that I haven't had any problems with the new version
>>otherwise.  The password protection for setting up an FTP host is very
>>nice, the dialog boxes are clearer, configuration can be set and
>>changed on the fly, ftp transfers are faster, etc.  Just avoid the
>>Reread command until it is fixed.
>
>There's version 3.0.3 at ftp.cica.indiana.edu this morning, and it doesn't 
>have this bug. It's in the /pub/pc/win3/uploads directory as qvtne303.zip.
>HTH

Evidentally, your setup is not quite the same as mine.  I am been using 
QVTNet 3.03 as well, but the problem with NDW persists.  Anytime that I 
attempt to re-read my QVTHOST.RC file, I get a GPF.  However, I can just hit 
the "ignore" button and continue without compromising system integrity  - 
nothing has crashed for several hours.

Ashok
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From: mikelo@cecil.mentorg.com (Mike Lottridge)
Subject: W4W and crop marks
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:19:50 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics
Keywords: W4W crop marks macro
Followup-To: 

Is there anyway in Word to specify crop marks on a 
page (these are the marks that a printer uses when 
you are only printing a portion of the sheet, for 
example a 5" x 7" sheet printed on a 81/2" x 11"
sheet ). I'd like to do this on an HP Laserjet II. 

I know there's Postscript code for doing this on 
a Postscript printer, but hopefully there's some 
way to do this in w4w on a Laserjet...

Mike Lottridge
mikelo@dsd.mentorg.com


Xref: sparky comp.os.ms-windows.apps:5073 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:4739 comp.os.ms-windows.setup:2029
From: martin@gnct.com (martin fu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os
Subject: Re: How to let a program running in dos window recognize 16550UART
Keywords: 16550, comm, uart, tcpip, slip
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 07:39:17 GMT
Organization: Global Network Communication Technology Co.

fuzzy@netcom.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:

> lingy@jonah.its.rpi.edu (Dan) writes:
> 
> >	Could anyone help me with configuring MS Windows so that my dos
> >program can recognize my 16550AFN uart inside windows?
> 
> Windows virtualizes the COM ports, and it does not have a virtual 16550
> driver.  I thought I had heard of a solution, but I do not recall it.
> 
> >ws? winqvtnet is arp only. I hope to find one that's 
> >slip and bootp.
> 
> There is a SLIP packet driver that masquerades as ARP.  Look for the
> ETHERSLIP driver.
> 
> -- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright)
Subject: Re: Quicken 2.0 won't install (problem found and corrected)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:15:13 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. ASSD, Atlanta, GA

In article <92323.120201MZBCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <MZBCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
|> I have had Quicken 2.0 for about a week. I tried to install it several
|> times this morning before leaving for work.  I kept getting "Sharing
|> Violation on Drive C" then... LOCKUP.  I'll try to disable SHARE.EXE 
|> this afternoon. Thanks for the advice.

Since I am about to install Quicken 2.0 on 3 machines... 

Can anyone tell me if there is a disadvantage to taking SHARE out? What
possible problems could it cause? And does SHARE just have to be disabled
during the install or when you run Quicken? 

As Jimmy Buffet sang: Answers are the easy part; Questions raise the doubt.

					Richard

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: twriter@rd.hydro.on.ca (Timothy Writer)
Subject: Re: Unix Windows for win 3.1
Reply-To: twriter@rd.hydro.on.ca
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:41:47 GMT

gottlieb@umbc8.umbc.edu (Robert Gottlieb) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Ok, UW or Unix windows is a Windows (and PC) Public Domain package
>that allows you to log onto a Unix system and then have multiple
>sessions (on DOS) and multiple Windows (On Windows of course).
>So you can log on 3 different times using the same modem.  It
>basically cycles between windows.  The one (of two) drawback
>is that it doesn't have downloading or uploading capability
>as of yet (unless that's in a new release), also the server
>(for your account) only compiles on BSD systems, not System V
>(like SGI).  So basically you log on using UW and then on

I've never heard of UNIX for Windows either, but I'd like to comment on
your description of SGI as System V.  You're right, IRIX (SGI's version
of UNIX) is based on System V but it does include BSD extensions.  To
get the maximum BSD compatibility, simply #define _BSD_COMPAT or compile
with -D_BSD_COMPAT.  In addition, you will need to link with -lbsd,
possibly -lsun, and perhaps others depending on your particular release
of IRIX.  See the section on BSD Compatibility under "man 3 intro".

>for your PC.  Anyway, if the author sees this, please get back
>to me if you can.  Thanks!

Good luck!
Tim

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From: jessea@vpmeu015.me.vp.com (Jesse W. Asher)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: NT requirements
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:48:35 GMT
Organization: Varco-Pruden Buildings

In article <1992Nov17.181837.10024@news.mentorg.com>, davidr@davidr.mentorg.com (David Ransier) wrote the following:
>In article <zpt18x_@rpi.edu>, kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:
>|> In article <1e4jcsINN9d9@sam.ksu.ksu.edu> sdoran@sam.ksu.ksu.edu (Steven Marcotte) writes:
>|> >  I know this is probably a FAQ, but what the hey.  What are the 
>|> >minimum requirements for NT?  Right now, I have the following
>|> >
>|> >	486/50
>|> >	4 meg Ram
>|> >	120 meg HD
>|> >	SVGA
>|> 
>|> I think the "release" version will require 8MB RAM.  For the "beta"
>|> version, it requires about 12MB RAM.

I installed NT on a box with 4MB of RAM and although it installed fine,
it is impossible to run with this as it constantly pages.  It's
completely worthless with 4MB.

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From: dem21178@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Montroy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Afterdark problems - help!
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:25:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bxrpq8.KE4
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

baileyc@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Christopher R. Bailey) writes:

>Next, when I set the windows screen saver to AD runner, afterdark comes up,
>then almost instantly goes away.  What is the proper setup procedure.  I have
>AD set to on, do I hit close on the AD system menu when I've finished setting
>it up, or do I just minimize it or what?  I've tried both and same behavior.

I don't know about the other problem you are having, but for this one, the
way I have it set up on my machine is with After Dark turned off in the control
panel, and when you're done configuring it in it's control panel, select the
minimize button.  I believe that as long as you have the After Dark module 
as your Win3.1 screen saver, it will activate correctly.

Also, make sure you have the newest version of AD, version 2.0a.  Since you
called the Win3.1 After Dark screen saver "AD runner", you may have the old
version.  My version has this screen saver named simply "After Dark".

Dan Montroy
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: mark@mozart.demon.co.uk (Mark Whalley)
Subject: Entity Relationship Diagram Apps 
Distribution: world
Organization: Telecoms Software Engineer
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:14:07 +0000


In article <137610011@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mic@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM writes:

>
>Cadre Technologies markets the industry leading package Teamwork on
>workstations and a lower powered clone on PCs.
>
>

About all it is good for is drawing ERDs, DFDs and the like, the underlying 
DB holding the data dictionary is a mess. I was involved on a reverse 
engineering project containing about 10000 DDE entries and the thing just
could not cope - it was taking almost 1 hour to simply load the DD Index.

We called on Cadre to offer advice, they said we were doing all that was 
possible. We gave up!

However, if you have a small project then it will probably be of use.

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From: tabitha@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Microsoft ACCESS
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:48:12 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

I've read some newsgroup articles on Microsoft's forthcoming
ACCESS.  I gather it's a visual basic for database development.

Can anybody tell me whether it's also end user oriented?  Can
one paint the fields on the screen, for example, or draw
"relational" connections as one can in Approach 2.0 or
Superbase 4 2.0?  In other words, can I create an application
without programming, in ACCESS?

-dennis turner
From: udk@awd.cdc.com (Uday D. Kabe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Unix Windows for win 3.1
Date: 22 Nov 92 14:02:23 GMT
Reply-To: udk@awd.cdc.com
Organization: Memex, 8757 Hawthorne Dr., Eden Prairie, MN 55347

In article <1992Nov21.210438.9937@umbc3.umbc.edu>, gottlieb@umbc8.umbc.edu (Robert Gottlieb) writes:
|> Hi all,
|> 
|> I'm looking for the server for Unix Windows for Win 3.1. 
|> I'm using an SGI based system.  Last I heard it wasn't sysv
|> compatible.  Does anyone know if a new version has come out
|> since then and if there is an ftp site where I can find it?
|> 
|> If there is an faq I could look this up in, plese just
|> send me email telling me where it is, so as not to waste bandwidth.
|> 
|> Thanks in advance,
|> 
|> Robert
|> -- 
|> Robert Gottlieb
|> gottlieb@umbc7.umbc.edu or robertg@cs.umbc.edu
|> "Not gonna do it.. wouldn't be prudent..."
|> Not umbc's opinion.  

I am unfamiliar with Unix Windows for Win 3.1; if there is a FAQ on
this I would like to get a copy also.  Thanx in advance.

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From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: autofocus in windows, anybody??
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:57:06 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

A program called "NAIL" (not sure of the full name) will allow you to
"nail" a window to the top of the stack, so that no windows can pop over
it, even if you transfer focus to an underlying window.  This is not
exactly what you want, but it will let you type into a window which is
underneath a "nailed" window.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey)
Subject: Questions about WinQVT/Net 3.0
X-Disclaimer: These opinions are mine: others available on request.
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
X-Newsreader: GNUS 3.14.1
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:48:30 GMT

I downloaded version 3.0 of WinQVT/Net from ftp.cica.indiana.edu in
/pub/pc/win3/uploads/qvtnet30.zip yesterday afternoon (UK time).  One of
my colleagues tried to get hold of this morning and all he could find
was a text file saying that qvtnet30 had been removed because it
contained a "gross error" (something like that).

I've been using 3.0 all day and I've had no trouble, so what problems
should I look out for?


While we're on the subject of WinQVT/Net 3.0, I've got a couple of other
problems:-

* The FTP server doesn't like commands like "dir c:\ab\cdef\*.*".  This
  worked with version 2.85, so what's going on?

* When I'm running an editor (GNU emacs) in a telnet or rlogin session
and I hold down the cursor key, the cursor doesn't run along smoothly
like it did in 2.85, it jumps about 5 characters at a time.  Any ideas
why?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Kevin
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From: jsanchez@halcyon.com (Jim Sanchez)
Subject: PC Mag Winbech - Where to find?
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:58:11 GMT

I just read that PC Mag has a new benchmark suite.  I looked in cica but
only the old one is there.  Does anyone know where to find it.  Perhaps
if someone out there has it they can upload it to cica.
thanks
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From: jessea@vpmeu015.me.vp.com (Jesse W. Asher)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: FTP site for Windows NT??
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:46:20 GMT
Organization: Varco-Pruden Buildings

Is there an ftp site set up for ported Windows NT apps?  I'd like to get
some stuff and see how it runs.  Any ideas?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: harp@martha.utcc.utk.edu (harp)
Subject: Re: Postscript viewer for Windows... where is it?
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:00:57 GMT


I just got the other necessary files.  Good God, why did they bother to
make a windows version.  That was the sadest user interface I've ever
seen in my life.

Sean Harp
University of Tennessee
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:43:05 EST
From: <MALLETP@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Does Excel 4.0 plot error bars?

 I think the subject says it all. I need to plot column and line graphs with
 error bars and I can get a good deal (educational discount) on Excel 4.0.
 However, if it doesn't plot error bars then it's of no use to me. Thanks in
 advance.
 Paul Mallet
 Department of Psychology, Queen's University, Kingston Canada
 MALLETP@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA
From: carter@cemvax.cem.msu.edu (Tom Carter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: re: QVT_Net 3.0 Bug Report?
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:51:00 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, Chemistry Dept., E. Lansing, MI

In article <6908@news.duke.edu> gronke@acpub.duke.edu (Paul Gronke) writes:
>The newest version of QVT_Net is available on cica.  I have one
>potential bug to report.  When I choose the File/Reread QVTHOST.RC
>option, I get a General Protection Fault on QVT_Net, then I get a
>General Protection Fault for Norton Desktop.  Windows/NDW crashes.
> 
>I should add that I haven't had any problems with the new version
>otherwise.  The password protection for setting up an FTP host is very
>nice, the dialog boxes are clearer, configuration can be set and
>changed on the fly, ftp transfers are faster, etc.  Just avoid the
>Reread command until it is fixed.

There's version 3.0.3 at ftp.cica.indiana.edu this morning, and it doesn't 
have this bug. It's in the /pub/pc/win3/uploads directory as qvtne303.zip.
HTH
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: harp@martha.utcc.utk.edu (harp)
Subject: Re: Postscript viewer for Windows... where is it?
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:14:39 GMT

>In article <1992Nov17.020057.13040@utkux1.utk.edu> harp@martha.utcc.utk.edu (harp) writes:
>>
>>I just got the other necessary files.  Good God, why did they bother to
>>make a windows version.  That was the sadest user interface I've ever
>>seen in my life.
>
>So is it worth getting? I have installed the DOS version. Should
>I spend the time installing this one?
>
>--Kate Juliff

I apologize for jumping all over Ghostscript for windows.  I've gotten so
used the the interfaces for programs such as Word, Pagemaker, and such that
I guess that I am a bit spoiled on the user interface end.  When I saw
gs4win, it looked like what I imagine the dos counterpart looks like only
in a window.  After being told that I could associate .ps files in the file
manager with the application, it took on a little more functionality.  I'll
spend more time investigating next time before I open my big mouth.

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From: elee969@elroy.uh.edu (Brown, William J.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: WinQVT/Net 3.03
Date: 16 Nov 1992 14:45 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I was able to use version 3.0 ok, but when I tried 3.03 I would get
a GPF.  Is the only diff. between 3.0  and 3.03 the wnqvtnet.exe file?

bill
From: stefan@olson.acme.gen.nz (Stefan Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Microsoft ACCESS
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 12:17:21 +1200

What is this I hear about MS Access for $99??  Is it the full
version??

Thanks,
Stefan

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From: jls@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jerry Schneider (Contractor))
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:17:55 GMT
Subject: Windows 4 workgroups not shipping
Organization: heart