HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: HPHP48-E Question
From: hdgarner@acs.harding.edu
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:08:38 -0500
Reply-To: hdgarner@acs.harding.edu
Organization: Harding University

I have a problem with some stuff that I have downloaded to my HP48SX.
It shows up as a string that starts out with "HPHP48-E" and goes on from
there. Could someone please tell me what You do with this to use it.
Any help anyone could provide would be appreciated.

Send replies to
hdgarner@harding.edu
From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:40:03 GMT
Subject: Re: some general questions for HP48
Message-ID: <2b51c39c.2613.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

As for moving directories without copying them, I offer this suggestion
(This is what I do):

1)  Make sure your LAST ARG is on
2)  Type ' dirname PURGE LASTARG
3)  Go to the new location for the directory and  do STO

That way you should only have one copy of the directory at a time.

I hope this makes sense

Bill Levenson
From: akcs.spacecadet@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (David Cho)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:40:02 GMT
Subject: wow!!!(new software from overseas)
Message-ID: <2b4de162.2606comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

If you all havent done so, check out the Uploads directory
at seq.uncwil.edu....
I as well as many other hp48ers have been waiting 
for about three weeks for these programs to finally come.
 
They are but completely amazing games.  I really do want to know
how they were assembled and if we can get a copy of their
assembler!

I think we all owe our hearts and worn out hp keys to our
friends in France for their great accomplishments!
 
The latest batch of stuff came yesterday: runway2, Xenon, and some
utilities...go check it out.  If there is enough interest maybe some
of us (or I) can leave an asc or uuencoded copy of it here on sys.hp48
for the unftpable.

Thanx again Chris, Lilian et al., for some great programs!
Now I'll have something to do during my EECS 314 class!

*space cadet*
 "fly higher than a rocket...pound harder than a warhead"

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: meissner@triton.unm.edu (John Meissner)
Subject: Entry points
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 06:27:53 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


	Sorry to have to ask this, but:

Is there a file anywhere which lists HP supported entry points
with functiontal descriptions? (not just addresses).

There seems to be several supported entry points that are not in 
RPLMAN.DOC.   Are there documents which describe thier functions
in detail?

Please respond by e-mail.

John Meissner

meissner@triton.unm.edu
From: akcs.kirkland@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Daniel B. Kirkland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: New entries list at seq.uncwil.edu
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:40:02 GMT

Mika Heiskanen has uploaded his latest entries list
to seq.uncwil.edu 

The list is in the Uploads directory.
hp48/Uploads/entries.tar.Z

Included files:

ENTRIES.ALL

A very large collection of ROM entries with comments.
Not usable by any compiler.

UENTRIES.A

A list of unsupported entries usable by the RPL tools package.
( The latest supported entries are at hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com in
the pub/quick directory:   pub/quick/48entry.zip           )

ENTRIES.SRT

A list of some of the most useful entries sorted under topics.
Contains both supported and unsupported entries.
( I beleive this list was posted on this conference a short
while back )

The ENTRIES.SRT file is what some of you were asking for.
It has the most useful sorted under topics so that they are
much easier to find.  It includes some stack diagrams and
some simple explainations, without going into great detail.
So, it makes a great referance.

I downloaded it just last night and I think it's great!

Thanks Mika

This will be a great help for all the "system" RPL programmers
out there.

I would also like to thank:
Jan Brittenson, Rick Grevelle, Jim Cloos, Paul Dale, Derek Nickel,
Poul-Henning Kamp, Harry Herman, Joseph K. Horn
and any others I may have missed for there work in connection
with this.
( And their many fine programs! )

This is the kind of thing I would put together if I wasn't
so lazy, were a lot smarter, and a little better lookin.

Dan Kirkland
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: wyder@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Peter Wyder)
Subject: What the hell is "the exam-mode" ??
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:14:21 GMT

hi dear hp-users....

i have a question....i recently buyed a hp48sx, and i saw...version j ..:-)..
(who wonders..:-) )

so...i have heard the equationwriter should be faster...it is !!!..compared
to my friend's one (version d)...

and i also heard about an "exam-mode"...but there is nothing written in the
book....so can anyone out there tell me, how to use it ... how works it...etc..

thanx and many greetinx...peter wyder

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*  at University of Zurich		wyder@avalon.physik.unizh.ch	      *
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From: mheiskan@hut.fi (Mika Heiskanen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Calculus package
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:58:56 GMT
Reply-To: mheiskan@vipunen.hut.fi
Distribution: inet
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland


In article <C0Hy33.45u@iat.holonet.net> brianw@iat.holonet.net (Brian Walsh) writes:
>From the brief time I've seen the Calculus card it looks really good. 
>Sparcom is making an effort to produce software written in sysRPL, whereas
>the earlier cards had a lot of (slow) user RPL.

Ah, this is getting interesting, anybody with more info? I just hope they
don't use supported entries only, most of the good entries for doing symbolics
(meta objects actually) are unsupported. Without them most of the stuff I'm
looking for is hard to do.

--
--> mheiskan@vipunen.hut.fi
From: brockus@usc.edu (Jeffrey Brockus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: HELP!!! NON-TECHIE NEEDS HANDHOLDING
Date: 11 Jan 1993 18:14:33 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

      I bought the hp48 calc last semester during the "BACK TO SCHOOL"
sale. I sent in the coupon and got a serial cable and some software.
The trouble is that I don't know the first thing about the Kermit program
or how to install it, and also I have no idea how to set baud settings
and what a file transfer protocal is. Can somebody please describe to me
in non-technical terms how to download software from an IBM PC to my hp48
using the Kermit program. I've looked at the readme files but they didn't 
help much. Also, I don't understand the distinction between the various
types of programs that I received (.SRC etc.) although I think I know what
a .GROB file means. I really hope somebody out there can help me out as 
someone gave me a couple of disks full of hp48 software for Christmas which
he downloaded from the hp BBS. The on;y trouble is he's in Germany right now.
Some of these programs are really neat. So, somebody.... HELP!!!

brockus@nunki.usc.edu
From: devil@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (The Dark Lord)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: HP48S calculator for sale
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:28:19 GMT
Reply-To: devil@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (The Dark Lord)
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: devil@louie.cc.utexas.edu

I have a HP 48S for sale. Asking price is
$130. It is in excellent condition and almost
brand new.

Reply by e-mail please.
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: calvin@lysator.liu.se (Chris Maluszynski)
Subject: Where to get the cheapest HPs?
Organization: Lysator ACC at Linkoping University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:11:32 GMT

I'm thinking of getting a HP48 or 48SX and I have a few questions...

1. What do these cost in the US?
2. Is it possible to get them cheaper somewhere, like Singapore for example?
3. The difference between them is that the SX can have some additional cards
   stuck in it right?  What cards are there?  Are they expensive?  Is it really
   worth the extra whatever the difference, to get the SX?
4. Can these calculators communicate with a Macintosh?  What hardware/software
   is needed for data transfer between the caluclator and a Mac?
5. Is there PD software available for these calculators via ftp?

Please reply by email.

Thanx

	-Chris

	z
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: f_quan@pavo.concordia.ca (QUAN, FEDERICO)
Subject: Upgrade to ver. J or NOT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:38:00 GMT


I have seen alot about this ver. J of calc. Is an upgrade going to
take place or HP is just wetting our mouths?


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Fred Quan
Concordia University        f_quan@pavo.concordia.ca            
Montreal CANADA             Electric Shock Dept.

** I speak only for myself... so butt out!!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu (Phoenix)
Subject: 32k MEM card wanted
Reply-To: twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:11:56 GMT

	Yeah!  I am so eager for mem card and can't afford it:)
Well, I was wondering if there's any user who'd like to 
sell their 32K RAM cards.  Thanks!  Please reply by mail.
			Ming
From: x89beimler@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: String Writer library
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:18:15 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I was wondering if anyone had any documentation (English prefered, but 
French acceptable) for the Sting Writer library (in the upload directory
at seq.uncwil.edu).  I have found it to be VERY useful while playing with
it today, and was hoping someone had more about the keyboard use while
editing, and what the commands EED and VZ do, and how the \->FNT command
works.

Thanks

John
99beimle@lab.cc.wmich.edu
From: cvadrgyi@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Boulder DasHP HELP!!!! REVISITED Please READ!!!
Date: 9 Jan 93 05:39:31 GMT
 <2b4c8a58.2584.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> <1993Jan7.155104.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadrgyi

In article <1993Jan7.155104.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu>, cvadrgyi@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
> In article <2b4c8a58.2584.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>, akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson) writes:
>> Check the mode of transfer.  Make sure all machines are set up for
>> binary.  I was able to get boulderdash to work fine.
>> 
>> Bill Levenson
>> 
>> I just thought I'd let you know the posting wasn't corrupt.
> 
> Could you or perhaps someone else please go through the process step by step...
> From extracting from nnews to d/l to the HP to setting up the LIB to runing the
> game.
> 
> Again thank you very much.
> M.G.

Ok since I haven't been able to persuade anyone to help me how's about this.  I
downloaded the Boulder.LIB and Dungeon.Master files from SEQ.UNCWIL.edu
archives and they still don't work (Kinda).  Here's what I did I recieved the
files to my VAX system then downloaded the files to my mac then Downloaded them
to my HP all in BINARY mode.  The files are there on the HP and they look like
their in good condition. Here is what I get on the display when I hit the
BOULDER.LIB key, "HPHP48-D@+XXXIBou..." , the XXX standing for characters I
can't type.  A while ago when I was useing my 48 on a daily basis I seem to
remember that I had a utility that would do something to this type of file, but
every thing has been deleted of my Calc since then so I need help.

Please someone...
Thank You,
M.G.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: jonhiga@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jonathan Tomohiko Higa)
Subject: Re: ASC
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton AdTech
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:26:14 GMT

In article <C08KGB.HD9@news.iastate.edu> twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
&	Sorry, just one more question:  Does anyone konw
&which directory I can find the ASC-> and ->ASC for
&PC?  Since if any HP48 user who doesn't have RAM
&card will have trouble to DL a ASC file bigger than
&15K.  
&	Thanks in advance!
&			Ming

I think it's in /hp48/utils.  There are asc2bin programs, and also one
called TASC, which is my own.  That reminds me:  I'm currently improving
on the PC ASC translator.  Let me finish some of these grad school
applications, and then a beta version of TASC 3 should be available.
-- 
Jon (jonhiga@phoenix.princeton.edu)
From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Boulder DasHP HELP!!!! REVISITED Please READ!!!
Message-ID: <2b51bb9a.2584.5comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

The download of BOULDERDASH described by M.G. sound like a bad download
at some point in the process.  Keep in mind that binary mode nees to be
used thruohgout the process...ftp, kermit (both ends) and any other
transfers you use.  If you can't resolve the problem, there is a program
called FIXIT that can repair bad downloads but I've never tried it.  I
think it can be found at seq.uncwil.edu or on the goodies discs

I hope this helps

Bill Levenson
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: brianw@iat.holonet.net (Brian Walsh)
Subject: BBS for HP handhelds
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:43:14 GMT

                New bulletin board system for HP handhelds
               --------------------------------------------
For those who missed the previous announcement, I have started a free
public access BBS in the Chicago area for support of the HP48, 95, 41, 
42, 28, and 71/75.  File areas include Frequently Asked Questions, HP48
Goodies Disks, HP95, etc., with files being added daily.  Goodies #8 soon!
  >> Internet Usenet newsgroups weekly updates coming early next week <<
comp.sys.hp48, comp.sources.hp48, comp.sys.handhelds, and comp.sys.palmtops
messages (some with nifty programs) will be available for download.
First time callers have full access privileges, 120 min./day, no file ratios.
        Telephone number: (708) 304-0666
        Hours of operation: 11pm to 8am Central Time, 7 days/week
          other times on request (call the above number by voice first)
        8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit
        1200bps-14400bps V.32bis; V.42bis, MNP5, LAPM supported
        easy to use
        Zmodem file transfers (now working)
Any questions, call me at the above number by voice at other times, or
leave a Comment to sysop when online.

Brian Walsh
-- 
-- Brian Walsh
   brianw@holonet.net
From: akcs.kirkland@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Daniel B. Kirkland)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Library Trouble
Message-ID: <2b4dc78b.2603.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Garth,

It is possible to have a library ATTACHED to more than
one directory (for example your HOME directory and some
subdirectory). If so the library must be DETACHED from
each directory that it is ATTACHED to.

This can be checked by using the LIBS command on the 
second page of the MEMORY menu. It will return a list
of all the librarys ATTACHED to the current directory.
(there can only be one library ATTACHED to any subdirectory)

Also, make sure the library is not referanced by the HP.
(a copy of the library on the stack or in LAST STACK,
LAST ARG, LAST CMD)

Most libraries will automaticly ATTACH themselves to the
HOME directory when they are stored in a port and the HP
is turned off and back on again. And seeing that a library
that is ATTACHED to your HOME directory, is also visible
in any subdirectory. It does not make much sense to have
a library ATTACHED to both your HOME directory and a
subdirectory.

To avoid this problem, first store the library in a port,
then turn the HP off and back on again.
Second, DETACH the library from your HOME directory.
Then ATTACH the library to the desired subdirectory.
(the library will then be visible only in that directory
and all of its subdirectories.)

THERE IS ONE PROBLEM!
Many (most?) libraries will reattach to your HOME directory
at the next warmstart.
(Like when you store another library)
So the library may be ATTACHED to two directories anyway.

There are some programs (libraries) avaliable that will help
to avoid this problem.
(config aborting or config supressing libraries)
(somewere at seq.uncwil.edu)
(sorry I can't tell you exactly were)

hope this is of some help!

dan k

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: jurjen@gamma.irdeto.nl (/home/other/jurjen/.name)
Subject: Moving directories (was: Re: some general questions for HP48)
Summary: not as simple as you think...
Organization: STORC, Postbus 616, Eindhoven
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:57:24 GMT


The idea to move a directory by recalling, purging (PGDIR), and storing can
loose your directory.  The PGDIR command will probably destroy your directory
and leave an empty directory on stack.
The reason is that a recalled directory on the stack can be modified if the
original directory is modified.  PGDIR deletes the variables in directory one
by one, so your directory on stack might end up empty.  The solution is to
do a NEWOB on the recalled directory, but this uses just as much memory as
moving the directory by first storing a copy.
As far as I know, there is NO user RPL solution to move a directory if there is
not enough memory for an extra copy except for moving the variables one by
one.
There is a solution to this problem, but it needs a system RPL specialist to
program:

(If you don't know about system RPL don't try reading this :-)
- make a TEMPOB copy of all variables in the directory
- recall the directory
- purge the directory with the regular PURGE
It might be an idea to program a RCLPURGE command that works on all objects.
Don't forget to check for ROMPTRs!

-- 
/*---   Jurjen N.E. Bos   -------------------   Email: jurjen@irdeto.nl   ---*/

int a=10000,b,c=2800,d,e,f[2801],g;main(){for(;b-c;)f[b++]=a/5;for(;d=0,g=c*2;c
-=14,printf("%.4d",e+d/a),e=d%a)for(b=c;d+=f[b]*a,f[b]=d%--g,d/=g--,--b;d*=b);}
From: akcs.ejf@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Ed Fasula)
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: TDS 512K Card
Message-ID: <2b4e6722.2602.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

Speakin of the 512k card does anyone have this problem:  Sometimes (like
when I got my card back after service by TDS) the HP proclaims INVALID
CARD DATA.  It's happened so much it's like seeing an old friend. 
Anyhode usually this is solved by BS'ing through all four banks merging,
then freeing each one. WHY!?!?.
From: detlef@dmhh.hanse.de (Detlef Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: SYSEVAL #CEEAh (disable clock)
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 14:57:24 GMT

In article <2b48f1ee.2560comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.kirkland@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Daniel B. Kirkland) writes:
>Could someone tell me the proper usage of the 
>sys-RPL PMC at #CEEAh.
>I know that it will disable the clock so that
>it won't interfere with the beeper or high speed
>data transfers. 
>What I need to know is it safe to just include it
>in a program or do i need to check the clock mode
>before using it.
>I have been using it with no checks without any 
>problens so far , but before releasing a program
>with it I would like to be sure.
>For moe?? more info see message 5072 on comp.sys.handhelds.
>Any help would be greatly appreacated.
>                                 thanks
>                                 dan k

Better use #39531h (ClrDA1IsStat), it'll disable the clock updates till
the next status display update.

Bye,
        8-Detlef
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+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
|`What a depressingly stupid machine'|             Detlef Mueller           |
| -- Marvin                          |          detlef@dmhh.hanse.de        |
+------------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mheiskan@hut.fi (Mika Heiskanen)
Subject: Re: Calculus package
Reply-To: mheiskan@vipunen.hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<2b4be38f.2559.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
	<MHEISKAN.93Jan7135435@lk-hp-19.hut.fi>
Distribution: inet
Date: 07 Jan 93 18:16:06 GMT

In article <MHEISKAN.93Jan7135435@lk-hp-19.hut.fi> mheiskan@hut.fi (Mika Heiskanen) writes:

>In article <2b4be38f.2559.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com> akcs.mcannon@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Matthew A. Cannon) writes:
>>The package he purchased was made by SPARCOM not HP so if any of
>>you own the Calculus Package by SPARCOM I would appreciate your
>>review.

>Calculus? I have Math Card made by SPARCOM. After some use a big
>disappointment, after learning system rpl and machine language I'd be ashamed
>to publish such a thing even as PD. User rpl all over the place and it shows
>on the speed. Just a couple functions, most of the card is taken by the
>browser and data for integration tables etc. Atleast I expect functions from a
>good math package, tables are ok too but not if the browser stinks.

>So far I haven't seen any good SparCom card worth the money , but I know
>they've hired atleast one good programmer so I can't condemn them forever.

Just learned that SparCom has published "Mathematics Pac" and "Calculus Pac".
I'd like to hear any comments about the Calculus card too.

>--
>--> mheiskan@vipunen.hut.fi
--
--> mheiskan@vipunen.hut.fi
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: INIT for HP48?
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:57:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: miser.STEVEV.93Jan11225724
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
NNTP-Posting-Host: miser.uoregon.edu
In-reply-to: fokp@bray1b.its.rpi.edu's message of 12 Jan 93 02:25:56 GMT

In article <gb-3!5@rpi.edu> fokp@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Ben Fok the
"lemming") writes:

   I am just curious.  Can anybody make their calculator run a
   particular program when they turn on the calculator?

Well, executing

\<< OFF <your program here> \>>

works pretty well on the HP 48SX.  Your program gets executed
when the calculator turns on.  Just assign that program to
left-shift ON and it'll even be pretty transparent.
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: akcs.kirkland@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Daniel B. Kirkland)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: QED 1.09 - important bug fixed
Message-ID: <2b4a49fe.2503.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

I looked and could not find it either.
I spent a lot of time going thru the different
directories and it was not therer.
( including Uploads and comp.sources.hp48 )

dan k