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Subject:      Handicap Digest # 3082

                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 3082

                         Wednesday, January 06, 1993

Today's Topics:


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                      GWBASIC requirement but can't...
                          Newborn Hearing Screening
                              New TDD on market
                                Interpreters
                               computer to TTY
                              Cochlear Implant
                           Pride or Regression...
                              Cochlear Implants
                                  EDUCATION
                        Testing, One Two.. Testing...


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Subject: GWBASIC requirement but can't...
From: Deaf.Hiker@f71.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Deaf Hiker)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/71 - Seattle Hearing Imp, Seattle WA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Yup, I had the same problem Im wondering if anybody knows how to
have Qbasic covert GWBasic into Qbasic? maybe there is such a way
to do it! My Word for Windows can covert any other word processor
into MS Word for Windows.

By the way theres a shareware called Learn to Sign.  It is good!
IBM program and no need too use Basic! Just type excute it..   the
address is

 HCB Computing
 Herb Bartow
 316 Layfayette St.
 Hackettstown, N.J. 07840

15 bucks registration.

Do you know anybody who has TrueType ASL fonts? Spread the word! :)

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Subject: Newborn Hearing Screening
From: John.Linko@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (John Linko)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26.0 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

The November issue of NEWSOUNDS had an article about Rhode Island just
passing legislation requiring ALL newborns be evaluated for the
detection of hearing loss. The article said that RI was the 18th state
to pass legislation similar to this. Does anyone have a list of all 18
states? Thanks...JL

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Subject: New TDD on market
From: John.Linko@p0.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (John Linko)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26.0 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Positron, Inc. has just introduced into the Public safety markets a TDD
(I prefer that term) that is built into a standard PC keyboard unit.
The keyboard replaces your IBM compatible keyboard, and there is a
16-character display and a small printer built right into the keyboard.
The TDD is independent of any software needs of the PC. It's not meant
for use with a modem, as far as I can gather. It's being marketed as a way
for 9-1-1 centers and other dispatch providers to comply with the ADA. For
more information:

Positron Inc.
5101 Buchan Street
Montreal PQ Canada H4P 2R9
1-800-361-9698

The unit is called the "Express". FYI. JL

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Subject: Interpreters
From: Jack.O'Keeffe@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Jack O'Keeffe)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

In the 12/7/92 Philadelphia Inquirer (South Jersey edition) it was
reported that, since a hearing impaired person was expected, a sign
language interpreter had been hired for a meeting of the Gloucester
County Freeholders.  The Freeholder Director did his best to point out
the special service was being made available.

"Is there anybody out there who's deaf, who needs a signer?" he said
over the PA system.  No hands went up.  Nobody, except the Director,
expected any hands to go up.  But a lot of hands made it to people's
mouths to stifle the chuckles.

The Director sat there looking perplexed until someone at the dias
leaned over and whispered, "If they're deaf they won't hear you."
........
comment added:

A funny story, sure.  But, as it turned out the last laugh is on us.
An interpreter was requested, but nobody needing one attended the
meeting.  I'll bet it will be a cold day in Gloucester before they
again hire an interpreter for a Freeholder's meeting.

Jack O'keeffe

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Subject: computer to TTY
From: Lee.Brody@f2120.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Lee Brody)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/2120 - Fingers Talk, Irving TX


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

[Note from Bill McGarry -- FUTURA-TDD is also available via
 anonymous ftp from handicap.shel.isc-br.com as FUTUR201.ZIP
 in /pub/hearing]

Computers CAN talk to TTY/TDDs if you have a special TDD modem for
your PC along with the software. For a copy of the demo software
called FUTURA-TDD written by a deaf scientist, write to PHONE-TTY
Inc, 202 Lexington Ave, Hackensack, NJ 07601 along with a check for
$5.00 to cover shipping and handling and a printed manual will be
enclosed.

Lee

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Subject: Cochlear Implant
From: Mike.Cooper@f801.n387.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Cooper)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:387/801 - ETC Mednet, San Antonio TX


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Would like to start some contact with people who have Cochlear
 Implants.  I have an 8-yr old daughter who has been implanted for
 over 6 months and is doing great.  Would like to share info, god and
 bad experiences and anything else we might come up with.  Please
 reply and I will head up the group.  Thanks, Mike Cooper, San
 Antonio, TX

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Subject: Pride or Regression...
From: Hugues.Blanchet@p0.f136.n167.z1.fidonet.org (Hugues Blanchet)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:167/136.0 - Ab.'s Place, Montreal PQ


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 -=> Quoting Pam Richardson to Ann Stalnaker <=-

 PR> Sounds like they don't accept anyone who uses any other type of
 PR> communication but signing.  How do they feel about hearing aids?  Are
 PR> they against this, too?

 Hello Pam,

 You're right Pam.  If they know (the deaf culturists) that you are
 oral and use it, they reject you because to be part of them, you MUST
 sign, NOT talk!  That's their reasoning... and for ANYBODY, it's very
 poor reasoning.  Anyhow, who would want to be part of a bunch of
 people who have such ideas.  It's like being part of a sect...<G>

 "You must allways sign, never talk" is not very far from "You must
 always have your head shaved and eat oatmeal three times a day"....<G>

 PR> IF any of my questions offenses anyone, please don't take it wrong.
 PR> I'm just trying to understand the Deaf Culture.

 <G>... Believe me Pam, you aren't offending anybody here.  However, I
 probably can't say the same for me, with this message... But there are
 very few of them here.  They are part of that 10 percent...
 the _deaf culturists_...  Everybody has free opinion here so you
 shouldn't be afraid of yours.

 Best regards,

 Hugues

... MONEY TALKS ...   but all mine ever says is GOODBYE!

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Subject: Cochlear Implants
From: Hugues.Blanchet@p0.f136.n167.z1.fidonet.org (Hugues Blanchet)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:167/136.0 - Ab.'s Place, Montreal PQ


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 -=> Quoting Dario Broggini to Jay Croft <=-

 Hello Dario,

 Correction here....

 DB> It's important to consider that almost any electronic device emits
 DB> electromagnetic fields... It would be interesting to know if your
 DB> friend is able to work in front of a color monitor, or else if he's
 DB> become a computing-impaired person...

 This really made me smile.... a monitor emits much more
 electromagnetic waves than a simple cochlear implant!!!  And many
 people have worked with monitors all their lives and never had any
 problems at all!!! Even the electromagnetic waves emitted by the
 magnetic coils in the monitor are so low that they hardly affect
 anybody in a whole lifetime in front of a screen!  Same goes for a TV
 set!!!  A cochlear implant!!!! Come on Dario!!!  You probably aren't
 specialized in the electronic field to say such things!!!  Not the same
 here though! I AM specialized in the field (even if I don't work in
 electronics anymore).

 DB> And if these implants are uncomfortable in working with computers, Ann
 DB> is in trouble: either cochlear implants, or SilentTalk, but not
 DB> both...

 <ROTFL>... Some WATCHES emit more electromagnetic waves than a
 simple cochlear implant...Now the watch companies are in trouble
 too...<gggggggggggggggg> If you have an implant and you see snow on
 your monitor everytime you work with it, then the electromagnetic
 field in your implant interacts with the coil's magnetic field in your
 monitor.  This, of course, MIGHT happen if you stick your implant
 (ear) to the screen... But why in the hell would you do that? Does a
 monitor whisper love words? ......<Huge Grin>  And EVEN if you did
 that, the only thing that would be affected is your screen image,
 NOTHING else!!!
 You have one hell of a good sense of humor Dario!!!!

 J'ai vu que tu avais recu un Netmail d'un type bien connu ici... et
 qui a cree sa propre conference... Je ne nommerai personne mais tu
 sais de qui je parle... Comment trouves-tu sa phylosophie?

 Amicalement,

 Hugues

... The Blue Wave echo, were suggestions are taken seriously!

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Subject: EDUCATION
From: Hugues.Blanchet@p0.f136.n167.z1.fidonet.org (Hugues Blanchet)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:167/136.0 - Ab.'s Place, Montreal PQ


[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 -=> Quoting Terry Bendell to Hugues Blanchet <=-

  Hi Terry!

 TB> I am not deaf but my next door neighbour who is a
 TB> related to me via a cousin is. He has been my mentor for he last
 TB> couple of years. I dont understand the difference between ASL and what
 TB> he has been teaching me.

 Maybe he's teaching you PSE (Pidgin Signed English) or SEE (Signed
 Exact English)?  As I understand it, he isn't teaching you ASL, am I
 right?

 TB> My question is this then: is ASL the same system adopted for Canada?

 In most of the english provinces (and also in Quebec), ASL is used.
 However, in Quebec's french communities, the signing is called LSQ,
 for Langage des Singes, oops, sorry... des Signes du Quebec ..;-))) )
 In English, it's called QSL (Quebec Sign Language)  I believe that
 most of the signing looks like ASL.

 I don't use ANY sign language because I'm oral and lipread.

 Hope this answers your question. Meanwhile, have a nice day!
 Greatings from Canada!

 Hugues

... Blue-shifted: The way to travel ...

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Subject: Testing, One Two.. Testing...
From: Hugues.Blanchet@p0.f136.n167.z1.fidonet.org (Hugues Blanchet)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:167/136.0 - Ab.'s Place, Montreal PQ


 -=> Quoting Hugues Blanchet to Karen Keil <=-

 -=> Quoting Karen Keil to Hugues Blanchet <=-

 -=> Quoting Hugues Blanchet to Karen Keil <=-

 -=> Quoting Karen Keil to Hugues Blanchet <=-

 -=> Quoting Hugues Blanchet to Karen Keil <=-

 -=> Quoting Karen Keil to Hugues Blanchet <=-

 -=> Quoting Hugues Blanchet to Karen Keil <=-

 -=> Quoting Karen Keil to Hugues Blanchet <=-

 -=> Quoting ...... Awww! Never mind!!!!!!

 ...Humm......... <ggggggggg>  (I'm joking Ann! I promise I won't do it
 again!!! )

 Howdy Misse'z Denva'!!!

 KK> I think my work is pretty good under pressure, but I don't like
 KK> the tension if it goes on for too long.  The tension can tire you
 KK> out and make it harder to resolve the problem quickly.

 And give you a burn out....

 KK> I do have gray hair---it's a hair here, a hair there.  I first

 Sounds like Old Macdonald had a farm.... hummmm...<ggg>

 KK> noticed it shortly after turning 32.  For a while, I pulled out
 KK> all that I could find but gave up when they kept growing back.
 KK> For the record, though, you have to look hard to see them.

 Well sometimes I have a white hair in my mustache, but when I pull it
 out, it doesn't come back.  Probably because of the way I look at it
 (my mustache) in the mirror "If you come back, I'll KILL you!!!" <ggg>

 KK> Funny of you to say that.   Some people at work thought I was 25
 KK> when my 35th birthday arrived and were incredulous to find out
 KK> the truth!

 I guess it happens with some people.  For instance, my sister is 40
 years old and doesn't look a day over 28-30.  Some people told me that
 I didn't look more than 27-28.  I also know a very nice lady... a
 special friend (Hi Tiger! <ggg>), who is 38 and who doesn't look more
 than 28.... She doesn't have even one wrinkle in her face!

 KK> when I look in the mirror, knowing full well what I looked like
 KK> at age 25. ;-)

 Probably didn't look quite different, huh?  Some people don't change
 at all in 20 years of their lifetime!!!

 KK> How is that coming along?

 (Speaking of job search).  It's still calm.  Nobody called back and
 I'm waiting.  The economy seems to be recovering!!!   For now, I'm
 taking it easy.  I've been out of work only since two months.

 KK> Actually, the downsizing I was referring to was downsizing of
 KK> PEOPLE, not computer systems.  This means laying off people. (As
 KK> far as I know, the systems will remain the same---I work at a PC
 KK> connected to a network that connects to the mainframe.)

 Oops!  That must be pretty hard to do with people... Because they
 aren't computers and have a heart and feelings, it touches our *human*
 side much more.

 KK> Me, in journalism?  Based on what?!?  (grin)

 SHSSS, day one... SHSSS, day two... SHSSS, day three... Should I say
 more? <gggggg>

 KK> You hope to read me again...hope the big bombardment of messages
 KK> to you (and everybody) will make your day! (gggggggggggggggggggg)

 <Clint Eastwood mode ON>

 This is a BLUE WAVE editor. It can blow you clean off your Silver
 Express.  Now I have one more message in here... You want me tu use
 it?

 Go ahead! Make my day!

 <Clint Eastwood mode OFF>

 KK> Blue Wave allows me to open, read and reply to a series of
 KK> packets all in one sitting without exiting the program, making it
 KK> easier and quicker for me.

 Hurray for BW!!!! You can even enter Netmails straight in the editor
 and Upload them!  And you even have WORKING filters!!! Wow wow wow!!!!
 <gggg>

 KK> At this writing (Nov. 23), we have a blizzard here in Denver!  I
 KK> got off work at 2 p.m. and did not enter my home until nearly 4
 KK> p.m.  The winds were bitter with a chill factor of 10 below zero
 KK> and the snow was drifting all over the place.  I walked 8 blocks
 KK> from the bus to my door.  Brrrr!

 And we are now november 28th and don't have one single centimeter of
 snow!!! Not even a millimeter!!!  The temperature is in the 30's.
 Mid 30's.  How much snow did you get with your blizzard?

 KK> Auf wiedersehen,

 Okey dokey!

 Amicalement,

 Hugues

... "Mr. Worf, fire phasers at Karen" ... Zzzzzap!

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