From: jpark@rwja.umdnj.edu (John Park)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Caucasions of the World, UNITE! Calm down, I'm kidding! :)
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:04:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

pellouch@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Philip Pellouchoud) writes:

>Seems to me like there's been a whole lot of paranoia in terms of caucasion
>guys who date Asian women, or who have "fettishes."  I thought I'd add
>my $.02 worth.

>  I think there is a small minority who are "crazy" and have asian "fettishes"
>or whatever. But I think it's pretty damn dangerous to say that any guy
>who finds asian women attractive must, "have a fettish."  Is it that
>unreasonable for a caucasion man to find an asian woman attractive?  I wasn't 
I agree with you, but I hope you're not mistakenly implying that most of the
asian males who post on this board think this, or else that's paranoia also.

>aware that asian men had a "god-given birth right" to be the one and only
>heirs to the "dating kingdom" of asian women.  Remember that this mentality
>also says all blacks are criminals, all asians are unscrupulous (sp?), and
>all mexicans thieves.
Oh G-d! Why do I hear this more often now than a few years ago?  This quickness
to regard asian men who aren't groveling and obsequiously agreeable, and rather
somewhat confident or proud of their heritage as RACIST!  
Search yourself for racist superiority thinking before quickly judging others 
of the same.

>  Come on, this is the 90's!  If we're going to accept homosexual behavior as
>being "normal" then i certainly think it ought to be okay for an occasional
>caucasion to find asian women attractive.  (Please no flames!  I don't want
>to start a homosexual debate, just using it to make a point!)

>  Let's not forget also, that "It takes two to tango."  Many of the caucasion
>men who find asian women attractive wind up finding one.  So in some sense,
>you could say that these asian women are having their own "fettishes."  Trust
>me, I've seen plenty of asian women who will only date caucasion men.
Touche'
>  Yes there is the occasional case where some caucasion guy feels some sense
>of superiority or dominance or whatever stupid thing you want to call it,
>but I figure if a gal is dumb enough to fall into that trap, she kinda has
>what's coming to her!
This is definitely wrong!  You mean to say that if someone is emotionally
vulnerable, then a guy has a license to prey upon and take advantage of her
(of different or same race it doesn't matter) to dominate her for some
ego stroking? Then the guy (asian, white or whatever) is scum, and the
girl is a victim, and does not HAVE IT COMING TO HER!

>  Before you judge someone, call them looney, or question their character,
>you had better (a) be in politics, where ANYTHING GOES, or (b) be damn sure
>you got it right.  Guilt by association only shows everyone else your
>ignorance and lack of education.
et toi.

>  And to the asian fellahs who are whining.  Well there must be a reason
>these gals are going "over to the dark side (reminiscing of Star Wars)."
>If a gals' gonna be treated like sh** and a second class citizen, then I
>don't blame her for looking elsewhere, hell, I ENCOURAGE her!  It's time to
>grow up, smell the coffee and get off your A**!
I agree, but without the gung ho attitude.  But if this theoretical "asian
male hating asian female" has children, her son will resemble an asian male
also.  In effect one is hating e one's own race.  No should dare encourage this.
If you hate your own race, then you'll hate the person glaring back at you
in the mirror.  This is not a problem to be ignored.  This is a problem
that has to be eventually solved, instead of run away from.

>  Okay, enough is enough, but let me leave you with this thought.  How do you
>like it when people see that you're asian and AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME that you're
>smart.  "Oh, you must be an enginerd or a doctor?"  Kinda pisses you off, eh?
>Well aren't you kinda being hypocrtical by AUTOMATICALLY ASSUMING that a
>caucasion guy who finds asian women attractive must be a wacko!  If you want t 
o
Whoa! agreed with you for the first three lines here.  But I don't think
that any non-asian guy who finds an asian woman attractive is a crazy person.  I
don't know anybody who thinks this either..  This sounds like an over reaction.

>make a difference in breaking stereotypes and the attitude of guilt by
>association, then start by taking a look in the mirror!

>-Phil

>ps. I'm not a caucasion, if anyone cares!  :)

>ps. All hate mail should be sent to /dev/null 

-John
ps. Who is this "you" person that you're addressing?                            Who were you addressing when you wrote this letter?  It sounded like
you were addressing all the asian males who write to this board about this
subject.  It seems like you think all our assumptions and thoughts are the 
same.  Are you lumping us all together? Do you get what I'm hinting at here?
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