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From: pal@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Peter Loibl)
Subject: Re: gdb on atari?
Organization: Technical University of Munich, Germany
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:24:02 GMT

Mike Stramba <stramba@zooid.guild.org> writes:


>Is there a GDB for the ATARI?

>Is it part of the GNU C package?

Well it is. Each anonymous-ftp site with gcc for the ST/TT-series
should contain gdb (at least at the atari-archive and here in Munich).
But gdb is in another dir! So look for the names of the directories.

Hope this helps,
Peter
pal@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.de

P.S Take the time to look into the other directories of the gnu-stuff.
    There are lots of good and usefull tools in it, as well as needed
    libraries.
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Boot sector
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:38:05 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Max Polk writes:

>I don't believe that the serial number is meaningful.  From my tests of

Well, you don't have to believe us... they're your disks..
 
You might want to call Dave Small and ask him how significant
the serial number on floppy disks is first though.
 
When ANTIC magazine first released his formatting program,
"Twister", someone at the magazine inadvertantly changed
something in the source code, and the program generated the same
serial number on every disk.

It wasn't until AFTER all the complaints came in that they caught
it, but not in time to prevent a lot of disks from being trashed,
or for Twister getting a bad reputation (undeservedly so, too..).

The revised version has the random serial number in it, and works
just fine...
 
BobR
From: morris@divsun.unige.ch (mike morris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: AHDI upgrades
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:25:40 GMT
Reply-To: morris@divsun.unige.ch
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland

Please forgive a dumb question from a non-techie :

       To upgrade to AHDI 5.0, do I have to reformat my drive?
        Or can I just copy the new prgs etc. over the old?

Thanks,
	Mike M.
From: jared@midiline.la.ca.us ('286 Highlander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Looking for...
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 00:50:29 PDT
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

a 68030-based computer designer/engineer.  Would like to start a new 
computer company, but only have $20,000 to work with, if even that.  
Willing to offer 90% profit share of all computer sales in exchange for 
services rendered.  Other options, ideas, etc. can be discussed.

Please reply in Email to: jared@midiline.la.ca.us

-----
jared@midiline.la.ca.us ('286 Highlander) 
MIDILine BBS (midiline.la.ca.us) - Altadena CA - (818)797-3285
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: TOS Chip & Socket Numbers
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:26:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: newshost.1992Sep28.152621.29769
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

I've got a 6-chip set of TOS 1.4 and need to know which chips go into which
sockets.  I had this information before but it's long gone now.  Appreciate
your help.

Thanks,
---

___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________
From: busbyjm@cs.aston.ac.uk (James M Busby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: GFA BASIC V3.5
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:06:49 GMT
Reply-To: busbyjm@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)

Please! Please! Please!
Does anybody know how to turn off the key click in GFA Basic?
I can't find any help in the manual!


James Busby
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From: hartlenk@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Kenneth W Hartlen)
Subject: Re: Text editors... for C even!
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:30:35 GMT

In article <landrews.05hg@outb.wimsey.bc.ca> landrews@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Luke Andrews) writes:
>> A normal monitor has still 80 col/line! Please switch your WRAP on! Your
>> text is ugly to read!
>
>I don't know about you, but my messages look fine to me!  They should all be in 80 columns, and no more (in fact, they should be less!).
>
>If anything, blame it on the system I call to access Usenet, which is an Amiga, running software called C-Net.
>
>Anyway, does anybody else have problems with my messages?   It sounds like your newsreader may be fouling things up for some reason.

    The post looks okay when reading but when replying the lines are definitely 
    longer than 80 characters. I've noticed this on some posts from Germany as
    well. As for what causes it, I have no idea.

>
>--- Via UCI v1.02 (C-Net Amiga)
>
>       Luke Andrews /*/ landrews@outb.wimsey.bc.ca. /*/ Vancouver, BC
>=----------------------------------------------------------------------------=
>  "We can rise and fall like empires, flow in and out like the tide, be vain
>  and smart, humble and dumb, we can hit and miss like pride."
>                                                         - Neil Peart
>  "Anyway, can a dead person sue for libel?" - "DGHDA" (Douglas Adams)


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From: castermn@tokyo.seri.philips.nl (Luc Castermans)
Subject: Coprocessor 6888x
Organization: SERI-CEN Network Services, Philips C&P, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:22:16 GMT

Hello world,

Is there somebody out there who has experience
in handling exceptions for a 6888x ?

I am building Yet Another Function Plotter. Upon
excecution of the formula an alert should be displayed 
whenever "operand overflow", "illegal argument" etc
occurs.

I used Pure C which supports 6888x but the 'signal()' function
does not handle 6888x exceptions.

I asked Eric Smith but MiNT currently does not support
6888x exceptions. It supports 6888x on context switch.

Is GNU as solution ?

I tried to write a handler in assembler, this failed up to
now because of insufficient TOS/assembler knowhow. And because
I cannot debug these things. During exception handling the
Trace-bit is OFF so the debugger does not stop.

Who knows a solution ?  Assembly / C source / ideas welcome

Thanks,

Luc Castermans
Philips Semiconductors
Group: Cordless phones
Eindhoven, Netherlands
E-mail: castermn@sce.philips.nl
tel     +31-40722171
fax     +31-40722764
From: ZZDLG@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: MIDI programs
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:10:59 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

Hi Folks,
 I am having great fun producing a Patch Librarian for my Yamaha HE8.
The big problem is that the HE8 sends lots of "Active sense" messages
which quickly flood the 128 byte buffer. I have fo course tried a bigger
buffer but it dosn't seem to make much difference. I suppose the only
solution is a interupt handler which discards the "sense" messages.
I know other have run into this problem, so can any one else lend me
some code, or otherwise help. Dave.
p.s. replies by EMAIL would be much appreciated as I don't always
get chance ot read this list.
From: klassa@aurs01.UUCP (John M. Klassa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: reading vblank counter on TT
Keywords: TT, vblank counter
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:35:59 GMT
Reply-To: klassa%aurfs1.aur.alcatel.com@rockdal.aud.alcatel.com (John Klassa)
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st.tech, poster
Organization: Alcatel Network Systems, Raleigh NC

Hi-

Somebody recently sent me some code that uses Superexec() to call a routine
that reads the system vblank counter...  The message was (in edited form):

> Ok.  Try something like this:
> 
> Supexec( get_vbl_count );      /* Supexec() is an XBIOS function that */
>                                /* executes a subroutine in supervisor */
>                                /* mode.                               */
> get_vbl_count()
> {
> /*
>   system variable at address 0x466 - the number of vertical blank interrupts
> */
>   unsigned long count = *((unsigned long *)0x466);
>   return( count );
> }

This works perfectly on an ST, but doesn't seem to work on a TT.  I
would think that the counter is in the same place in system memory on
both machines...

Can anybody tell me why this doesn't work on a TT, and what I can do
to make it work?

Thanks!!

John

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From: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!)
Subject: Re: Second&last time: Hacking Contest
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:22:49 GMT
Organization: MSD software vault #9 @THD

In article <hjv.718027413@groucho.phil.ruu.nl> hjv@phil.ruu.nl (Hendrik Jan Veenstra) writes:
>michael.smith@p3.f842.n680.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith) writes:
>
>>Original to: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th
>>In a message of <05 Aug 92 19:30:24>, wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th
	          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
MAJOR NETWORK LAG!

>>(3:713/602) writes:
>
>> w> wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!), via *IXgate
>> w> 3:713/602
>> w> 
>
>Somehow I seem to have missed something... What contest is this about?
You missed nothing, it died.

Nat!
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From: busbyjm@cs.aston.ac.uk (James M Busby)
Subject: GFA BASIC again!
Reply-To: busbyjm@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:32:08 GMT

I still don't know how to turn the key click off from inside GFA Basic. Someone suggested the control panel but this is not practical as I am writing games.

Does anyone know of an XBIOS call or a direct POKE that will turn the key click off?

James Busby



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From: stigvi@Lise.Unit.NO (Stig Vidar Hovland)
Subject: Re: How to setup MiNTlibrary with TurboC (or must I insatall gcc to use MiN
Keywords: MiNT, gcc , TurboC
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 22:13:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.173624.3127@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de>, kinzel@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (Jens Kinzel) writes:
 > Hi!
 > 
 > I want to use the MiNTlib functions under Turbo C. ('cause I like the
 > Turbo C debugger). How to compile the files (... must I compile
 > everything, what about the assembler files, when  I tried to compile
 > ??????.c which includes stdio.h, I got some errormassages ). All in
 > all it seems, that installing the libs with Turbo C is not possible
 > (,isn't it?).
 > 
 > 						Jens.

Why not convert the olb file to something Turbo_C can understand.


Stig Vidar Hovland - stigvi@lise.unit.no
From: Michael_Ziegler@m.maus.de (Michael Ziegler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: serial2 >19k2?
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:10:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: M.A22033
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14

Yes it is, Try the terminal program CoNnect. It should be availabe on many
MAUS boxes.

Ciao, Mike
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N Tomczak-Jaegermann)
Subject: Re: GNU C 2.2x available yet?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:32:48 GMT

Bjarne Pohlers <POHLERB@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE> writes:


>In article <ntomczak.717476481@vega>, ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca (N
>Tomczak-Jaegermann) says:
>>gcc 2.2.2 for ST is currently at PatchLevel 3.  It was available
>>some two days after FSF release.
>>
>>There is a series of updates on a.a which contain - among other
>>things Atari specific patches (not very extensive) to FSF distribution.
>>Look somewhere in 20'th.  The last one is from August this year.
>>
>Where are these update-files? I just can find the files until update20.zo
>(atari/gnustuff/tos/updates) and they are to build gcc2.1 and old versions of
>the libs.
>Thanks,

I wish I would know!  I uploaded updates 21, 22, 23, and 24 to a.a some
weeks ago and assumed that they filtered in the meantime to their
rightful place.  If they are still not yet in .../updates then try
- in blind - .../new directory.  Or ask Jeff.

    Michal
    ntomczak@vega.math.ualberta.ca

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From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: Need *more* help with gcc!!
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:57:28 GMT

In article <KENDALL.92Oct4015613@great-gray.owlnet.rice.edu> kendall@great-gray.owlnet.rice.edu (Kendall Helmstetter Gelner) writes:
>I was wondering if someone out there could be merciful to me and give a
>pointer or two on setting up gcc v2.2.2 on my ST:
>
>* I have all of the files (binaries and libraries) and am running under MiNT.
>* I have 2.5 megs of memory, so that shouldn't be (much) of a problem.
>* I need to know where to put the files, and also if there are any
>environment variables I need to set.
>
>I've used gcc for a long time on a Unix system, but just cannot figure out
>how to set this thing up on an ST!!
>
>Any help would be appriciated... and thanks to those who pointed me to the
>latest version!
>
>Waiting Anxiously,
>---> Kendall Gelner (kendal@rice.edu)
>--
>---> Kendall Gelner (kendall@rice.edu)
>C Code.  C Code Run.  Run, Code, RUN!
>   PLEASE!!!

Setting up your GCC environment:
	Pick a location for the object file libraries.
	Set the environment variable GNULIB to the full pathname
	 that you selected above.
	
	Pick a location for the header (include) files.
	Set the environment variable GNUINC to the full pathname.

	Pick a location for the executable files.
	Set the environment variable GCCEXEC to this pathname, plus
	 a "gcc-" prefix.

Example:
	GNULIB=c:\gnu\lib
	GNUINC=c:\gnu\include
	GCCEXEC=c:\gnu\bin\gcc-

You can put gcc.ttp anywhere on your path, that program will use the GCCEXEC
variable to find the other programs that it needs. These include the assembler,
the linker, and the archiver. These programs are named gcc-as, gcc-ld, and
gcc-ar. They were given the "gcc-" prefix to avoid confusion with any other
like-named tools you might have on your system from some other programming
package. If you don't have any other such package on your system, you could
do away with the gcc- prefix (e.g., just rename gcc-as.ttp to as.ttp), then
your GCCEXEC would only have to look like "GCCEXEC=c:\gnu\bin\". Alternatively,
after renaming, you could just set c:\gnu\bin in your path and not worry
about the GCCEXEC variable. (Obviously gcc needs more than just the assembler
and linker; it has to know where cpp, the preprocessor, and cc1, the actual
code generator, reside as well.)

In my MiNT configuration, I have a symlink to /bin, /lib, and /include, so
I set
	GNUINC=/include
	GNULIB=/lib
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: wrighttj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Auntie Tim)
Subject: Re: Text editors... for C even!
Organization: Aston University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:33:42 GMT

-- 
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wrighttj@cs.aston.ac.uk        \                   losers dry.
From: mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Michel Forget)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: XBIOS say() in MultiTOS :)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:27:48 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

annius@sif.research.ptt.nl (Annius Groenink) writes:

- gordonf@monashee.sfu.ca (Gordon Farrell) writes:
-
- >Oh, God.  Pleeeeeease, nobody do this!
- >We have one of those "wonderful" NeXT printers in the lab, and whenever
- >it starts whining at us, it's met with a chorus of "SHUT UP!"s from anyone
- >near it.
- >Beeps, pings, clicks, and whistles are fine for alerts, and can be sampled
- >and used by someone to their heart's content, but in my experience talking
- >appliances are just annoying.
-
- I did give this some thought. You're absolutely right you'd better not
- replace all alerts by spoken ones without allowing the user to disable
- this feature. One possibly interesting idea is the following: when you're
- using, say, a text editor (I'm sorry...) and the application senses it's
- soon going to be out of memory (but not entirely) it could give you
- a spoken message while you go on typing. All spoken messages should be
- warnings or compliments rather than failure reports. If spoken messages,
- like with the NeXT printer, get too much associated with `there is something
- completely wrong' then obviously they will only get irritating in the end.
-
- --
- Annius Victor Groenink      Universiteit Utrecht      PTT Research Leidschend
- Mathematics/Comp. Sc.        avgroeni@cs.ruu.nl       +31 70 3325445 (weekday
- Atari ST/Music          A.V.Groenink@research.ptt.nl  +31 70 3464732 (evening
- _____________My opinions are my opinions____________  +31 5700 29396 (weekend

Compliments?  "Thank you for saving power by not turning your printer on."  :)

Actually, a say() function would be a good idea if the voice would be of better
quality than is usual.  I remember a program called STSPEECH.TOS that would say
whatever you typed (and could be made to stay resident and be tweaked by other
programs to say what THEY want it to say) but the voice it spoke with was
awful.  It was the voice commonly associated with computers.  Grating.

Is it possible to get better quality phonetics, or at least generate more
human-sounding sounds?

<<  ------------------------------------------  >>
<<        mforget@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca          >>
<<  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  >>
<<               Michel Forget                  >>
<<   The Key:  Spirit over mind over matter.    >>
<<  ------------------------------------------  >>
From: hesche@cs.tu-berlin.de (Herwig Schelauske)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Floppy Disk Fats ..... In the beginning......
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:16:49 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany


 > 	Why was it decreed in the beginning that TOS should use FIVE
 > (512-byte) sectors to store its (12-bit) FAT Info.??
 > 
 > 	Surely no more that 3 of these sectors will EVER be needed (at
 > least for the 720 kbyte ATARI standard double sided format )!! Is this
 > not an example of ATARI wasting 2 whole sectors per FAT copy i.e. 2 kbytes
 > per Floppy?

One reason may be the MS-DOS-Disk compbattle. There one cluster is
mostly 1 Sector (720 kB disks), so they need more FAT-space (5 sectors).


You should not be worried about the 2 wasted kB, be happy and use 1
Sector Clusters (then you don't waste 1023 Bytes for a File with 1
Byte, you only wate 511 Bytes! So you win 512 Bytes by many Files!
Wow! It's only a little bit slower, but you are happy about every
Byte, right?)

                 Herwig
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Please send flames to dev/null
From: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: TOS Chip & Socket Numbers
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:13:44 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

>In article <1992Sep28.152621.29769@newshost.lanl.gov> hutch@bellman.lanl.gov writes:
>
>I've got a 6-chip set of TOS 1.4 and need to know which chips go into which
>sockets.  I had this information before but it's long gone now.

Edited from a rare (by Atari UK standards :-) technical note (ST/HW/0060):-

TOS 1.4

ST	STFM	Mega	Cksm	Part No.	Rom

U2	U48	U3	2097	C300641-001	HI-2
U3	U59	U6	2AAA	C300642-001	HI-1
U4	U63	U9	F6F2	C300643-001	HI-0
U5	U53	U4	9FC5	C300644-001	LO-2
U6	U62	U7	305D	C300645-001	LO-1
U7	U67	U10	64BB	C300646-001	LO-0

In a Mega you must also change jumpers W2 and W3 so that they both link
positions 1 and 2. Install a jumper in location W4 and finally remove chip
U12 (74lS11).

(With appropriate hand gestures to Luser and Doormat who may want to reproduce
this information :-)

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From: winfrvk@dutiws.tudelft.nl (P. Bart Schuller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Haba harddisk software?
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:05:35 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

Hello all,

A friend of mine has an old HABA harddisk for his ST. The original drive
mechanism was 10Mb, but that one has crashed, and was replaced by a 20Mb
drive.
The problem is: The program to format the drive doesn't have any options,
it's just double-click and it formats 10Mb. This works, but we would like
to use the other half of the diskspace as well.

The question: Does anyone have a version of the haba-software which can
format a 20Mb disk?
If no other version of the software exists, does anyone know if I can use
an old SH204 DMA->SCSI adapter in place of the one that I presume is in
the haba-box?

I hope someone remembers this beast, otherwise I'l have to ask in
alt.folklore.computers, and I don't know if that says something good or bad
about the ST. ;-)

     Bart.
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