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From: honp9@menudo.uh.edu (Jason L Tibbitts III)
Subject: Configuring a router?
Organization: Blob Shop Programmers
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:01:12 GMT

We have an interesting problem configuring a router to bridge between the
campus net and our department net.  The machine is a Sparc II with two
ethernet controllers (le0 and le1).  The machine was working properly until
recently, when a series of mishaps required a reinstall.  Now the machine
won't configure properly.

The first thing that presents itself as being odd is the fact that both
ethernet controllers have the same ethernet address (not IP address).
Should it be this way?  Is this supposed to be settable?  No combinations
of ifconfig settings can get the machine to talk to both networks at once,
though they can each be reached by using different settings.  We normally
use static routing settings (and this don't run routed) and running routed
hangs le1, though le0 works fine.  An attempt to go back to nothing but the
stock Sun startup configuration is futile.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: DOS Commands from Unix Command Line
From: gaffur@fluffy.pci.upmc.edu (ehsan-ul gaffur)
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:34:03 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Pittsburgh Cancer Institute
Keywords: DOS SPARCstation

Is there a programme for the SPARCstation that can
read from and write to a DOS diskette in its drive?
We are looking for a programme that is envoked from
the Unix command line and NOT through a DOS window.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.  Please answer
directly to my address, it is gaffur@crx.pci.upmc.edu.

Thanks!
From: brossard@siisun.epfl.ch (Alain Brossard EPFL-SIC/SII)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun Screen Savers
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:36:57 GMT
Reply-To: brossard@sic.epfl.ch
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <STEINAR.HAUG.92Jul24111434@delab.sintef.no>, Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug) writes:
|> duffiem@wl.com (Mark Duffield) writes:
|> >In article <1992Jul23.160518.20921@eng.ufl.edu> dlopata@shark.stat.ufl.edu (David Lopata) writes:
|> >>...
|> >>
|> >>	The Sun folks have said screenblank should NOT be run in rc.local, and
|> >>should be killed when a person logs out, making it's installation a rather
|> >>pointless gesture at best. 
|> >>
|> >
|> >Does Sun say why this is a bad idea?  We do it here and seems to work fine.
|> 
|> We do the same thing here - screenblank started from rc.local on all our
|> Suns. Have done so for years. Never had any problems with it.

   Well we do the same, however I did see some problems once upon
a time.  Somebody was working at the console using restore if I remember
correctly, the screen went blanked and no amount of input could restore
it.  I had to rlogin to kill screenblank and then everything started
working normaly.  This has occured twice on a 4/390 running 4.1.1.
-- 

Alain Brossard, Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne,
	SIC/SII, EL-Ecublens, CH-1015 Lausanne, Suisse, +41 21 693-2211
brossard@sic.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: SunOS 4.1.2 libc.so.1.7 missing symbols
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<1992Jul20.183805.19085@sci34hub.sci.com>
	<157880INNh2n@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:53:49 GMT

stephen> == stephen  <stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU> 

 stephen> Need help on locating libc_pic.a that contains missing symbols;
 stephen> dlopen
 stephen> dlclose
 stephen> dlsystem

 stephen> When I rebuilt the shared lib- libc.so.1.7 [...]

Sun broke /usr/lib/shlib.etc/Makefile in 4.1.2.  Change both of the
lines that read:
	ld -assert pure-text `${OBJSORT} lorder-sparc tmp`
to read (instead)
	ld -assert pure-text `${OBJSORT} lorder-sparc tmp` -ldl
and rebuild your shared libraries....
--
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   ``The First Amendment is often inconvenient.  But that is besides the
  point.  Inconvenience does not absolve the government of its obligation
         to tolerate speech.'' --Justice Anthony Kennedy, in 91-155
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From: cjc@ulysses.att.com (Chris Calabrese)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Administration & setup of X-terminals vs Diskless Workstations
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:08:37 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ, USA

Craig Carpenter (ccarpent@dpcs_gt1.ess.harris.com) writes:
>
>--
>While there are several companies producing X terms, many should not present
>any problem at all. Our group is purchasing a couple of Human Design
>Systems(HDS)
>X terms, we have had some in on eval and have had no problem in using
>them.
>
>The x term question really is how good is your network, x terms needs 100%
>of the information from across the network. dependent on your main memory,
>you can alleviate some of it. Also, most Xterms have local window managers 
>of the Open Look and Motif variety. The X term startup involves having a
>tape of fonts and other commands mounted on a server somewhere and the X term
>knowing where that is.


We've got around 80 X terminals and about the same number of
workstations (though none of them diskless).

We've found the X terminals _much_ easy to administer, but the
question of performance and net/host requirements is hard to nail
down.  A lot depends on your environment.

In our environment, the X terminals actually use _much_less_ net bandwidth,
since most of our work is data-intensive (the X terminal is only
showing the command line oriented terminal output a
data-processing program that outputs a small file of statistics from
a 1 gig file, while a workstation would have to take the whole gig
over the network unless it's operating in 'X terminal mode').

For these types of data-intensive programs, CPU time will often be
about the same on the server whether you do it on an X terminal or
over the net on a workstation.

On the other hand, workstations can win big for programs that have a
moderate ammount of data, but real hefty graphics (CAD/CAM),
or are compute intensive (compiles, CAD/CAM, scientific computing).

Our servers are so reved up to handle the big applications that they
don't even notice the compiles, mail readers, news readers, etc.

Other people down the hall from us (who do mostly software
development) are just as happy with the opposite setup - comparatively
tiny servers with diskless workstations with lots of RAM.
--
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From: stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: SunOS 4.1.2 libc.so.1.7 missing symbols
Summary: When building shared libc.so.1.7.x
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:05:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: orchid.ucsc.edu

Need help on locating libc_pic.a that contains missing symbols;
dlopen
dlclose
dlsystem

When I rebuilt the shared lib- libc.so.1.7 so that I could include
routines for BIND, everything went fine except now when I use
'cc/ld' I get undefined symbol warning as listed above.

We have discovered that this problem appears to only exist on
the Sun4 arch.  No problems have been seen with Sunm or Sun4c.

Any help greatly appreciated in advance...
Is there an FTP site for 4.1.2 patches, and fixes such as
sun-fixes/sun-dist.  

I need to get an updated libc_pic.a for my shared lib builds.

Also, any ideas how to get a .so lib back to .a?

thanks

 ___________________________________________________________ 
| Stephen Hauskins                                          |
| University of California, Santa Cruz                      |
| Departments of Biology and Chemistry                      |
| Santa Cruz, CA  95064                                     |
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| internet: (1) hauskins@biology.ucsc.edu                   |
|           (2) hauskins@chemistry.ucsc.edu                 |
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From: jbw@bigbird.bu.edu (Joe Wells)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: software patents (was: AT&T vs. BSDI --> 4.3BSD-NET2 distribution ...)
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:20:53 GMT
 <1992Jul22.103717.17224@uropax.contrib.de> <1992Jul29.194040.855@digibd.com>
 <Bs7nKr.3xr@well.sf.ca.us>
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: marquis@well.sf.ca.us's message of 30 Jul 92 16:38:50 GMT

In article <Bs7nKr.3xr@well.sf.ca.us> marquis@well.sf.ca.us (Roger Marquis) writes:

   That's why the US software industry is the envy of the world I suppose,
   all those stupid patents and copyrights that reward people for their
   hard work.

Attributing the success of the U.S.A.'s software industry to software
patents is rather naive.  Software patents do not enhance progress but
rather retard it.  (For that matter, patents in most industries have an
overall negative effect on society.)  Software patents are the moral
equivalent of the doctrine that allowed European countries to claim large
portions of the New World as their own simply by planting their flag in
the soil, disregarding the rights of the natives.  If you are not familiar
with the issues involved, I suggest you read:

  /prep.ai.mit.edu:pub/lpf/patents.ps

(which is also available in Texinfo format).

-- 
Enjoy,

Joe Wells <jbw@cs.bu.edu>
Member of the League for Programming Freedom --- send e-mail for details
From: dm76+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel McKeel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Panic on Boot
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:01:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QeRdOCK00Uh7M1k0kH
Organization: Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hello
    I have and old SUN2.It panics on boot due it seems to read errors on
the disk.Said disk is an old micropolis 85 meg disk.Is this fixable or
is it in need of replacement.There are no manuals to help me cure this
or to tell me if it fixable.Any advice is most welcome.
Thank you for your time 
Daniel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug)
Subject: Re: Sun Screen Savers
Organization: SINTEF DELAB, Trondheim, Norway.
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:14:34

duffiem@wl.com (Mark Duffield) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.160518.20921@eng.ufl.edu> dlopata@shark.stat.ufl.edu (David Lopata) writes:
>>...
>>
>>	The Sun folks have said screenblank should NOT be run in rc.local, and
>>should be killed when a person logs out, making it's installation a rather
>>pointless gesture at best. 
>>
>
>Does Sun say why this is a bad idea?  We do it here and seems to work fine.

We do the same thing here - screenblank started from rc.local on all our
Suns. Have done so for years. Never had any problems with it.

Steinar Haug, system/networks administrator
SINTEF DELAB, University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Email: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no, 
	sthaug@idt.unit.no, steinar@tosca.er.sintef.no
From: dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Remote mount daemon not responding...
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:53:47 GMT
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK

I don't always read this group, so please e-mail and I'll post the results
back...

I have (at the moment) a Sun 3/60 acting as a server to a 3/50 (ROM Rev 2.8).
Both are running SunOS 4.1.  When they are rebooted together (eg after a
power-cut), after the 3/60 has booted the 3/50 starts to reboot OK...

On the 3/50 screen...
...
Booting from tftp server at ...
Downloaded ..... bytes

Using IP Address...
hostname: ....
domainname: ....
server name ....
root pathname ....
Remote mount daemon not responding



At this point the 3/60 starts printing on the console and in
/var/adm/messages:
Jul 22 02:22:36 exnet mountd[194]: couldn't register TCP MOUNTPROG
Jul 22 02:22:37 exnet inetd[176]: /usr/etc/rpc.mountd: exit status 1
Jul 22 02:22:38 exnet mountd[195]: couldn't register TCP MOUNTPROG
Jul 22 02:22:38 exnet inetd[176]: /usr/etc/rpc.mountd: exit status 1
Jul 22 02:22:39 exnet mountd[196]: couldn't register TCP MOUNTPROG
Jul 22 02:22:39 exnet inetd[176]: /usr/etc/rpc.mountd: exit status 1
Jul 22 02:22:40 exnet mountd[197]: couldn't register TCP MOUNTPROG
Jul 22 02:22:40 exnet inetd[176]: /usr/etc/rpc.mountd: exit status 1
...
Jul 22 02:23:25 exnet mountd[232]: couldn't register TCP MOUNTPROG
Jul 22 02:23:26 exnet inetd[176]: /usr/etc/rpc.mountd: exit status 1
Jul 22 02:23:27 exnet inetd[176]: mountd/rpc/udp server failing (looping), service terminated


Then after a while the 3/50 says:
socreate: EPROTONOSUPPORT
clntkudp_create: socket creation problem: Protocol not supported (errno 43)
Address Error, PC fetch at 001A48BG
>


Now if I reboot the 3/50 by hand everything is fine.  The problem is that the
Suns are automatically powered down every night and I am *not* around to 
restart the 3/50 at 4am!  What can I do?  (Is this an RTFM?  I've looked, but
no joy so far.)

Thanks

Damon
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From: ehrlich@moe-le0.cs.psu.edu (Dan Ehrlich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Is there an archive of format.dat entries?
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:44:53 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Computer Science Department, Penn State University

Does anyone know if there is an archive of format.dat entries for the
large number of disks that are not in the file as provided by Sun?  If
there is I would appreciate hearing about it.  I get a lot of "Do you
have a format.dat entry for the FroBitz XY475 disk?" questions.

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Dan Ehrlich - Sr. Systems Programmer - Penn State Computer Science
"Universities should be safe havens where ruthless examination of
 realities will not be distorted by the aim to please or inhibited
 by the risk of displeasure." - Kingman Brewster
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: aegl@ossi.com (Tony Luck)
Subject: How to use loopback mount on 4.1.2?
Organization: Open Systems Solutions Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:13:02 GMT

We have a 4/690 running 4.1.2, and I would like to use a "loopback mount" to
make part of the filesystem appear in more than one place (a symbolic link
will not work for this particular application ... it expects "pwd" to return
a certain string ... don't ask why!).

So, I configured a new kernel with "options LOFS".  Then (after rebooting on
the new kernel) I added these lines to the end of /etc/fstab:

	# loopback mounts
	/rara/2/DV      /DV             lo      rw      0       0

and typed:

	# mount /DV

... and mount said:

	mount: unknown filesystem type: lo
	mount: giving up on:
	   /DV

I tried saying "lofs" instead of "lo" (in case the fstab(5) was wrong, but it
didn't help).

So, then I read "mount(2)", and wrote a program that successfully did the
loopback mount.

In a burst of inspiration I did a "find" ... and discovered /usr/etc/lo_mount,
which will also do the mount if given the right arguments (no man page, so you
have to guess a bit) ... but it doesn't add an entry to /etc/mtab ... so
"mount" and "df" don't report it as a mount point.  I'll also have to add
more junk to /etc/rc.local to get the mount done on every reboot.


So, finally, here is my question.  Why doesn't /etc/mount grok "lo" entries
in /etc/fstab?

-Tony Luck <aegl@ossi.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert)
Subject: Re: Sun Screen Savers
Organization: Twin Sun, Inc
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:57:26 GMT

albert@INSL.McGill.CA (Albert Pang) writes:

>>dlopata@shark.stat.ufl.edu (David Lopata) writes:
>>>	The Sun folks have said screenblank should NOT be run in rc.local, and
>>>should be killed when a person logs out ...

>Which Sun folks said that?  Certainly not the same people who wrote the
>screenblank(1) manpages:

It was probably the Sun folks that wrote Solaris 2.0.  screenblank is
no longer shipped with Solaris 2.0.  The documentation recommends `xset s on'
instead, but that doesn't seem to work if nobody's logged in.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: khwx386@infoac.rmi.de (Welter)
Subject: Re: Best format(1) configuration for a Wren VII (ST41200N)
Keywords: ST41200N SUNOS4.1.1 Seagate WREN-VII
Organization: RMI Net INFO.box Systems * Aachen * Hamburg * Flensburg
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:39:34 GMT

sadler@i88.isc.com (Jon Sadler) writes:

>A friend is about to connect a Seagate Wren VII (ST41200N) to his system
>(running SUNOS 4.1.1), and we are wondering what parameters are best to
>use when formatting the drive.  The data sheet for the drive mentions that
>the drive has an unformatted capacity of 1.2GB, a block size of 512 bytes,
>1931 cylinders, and 15 heads.


>So what opinions do you, the people of the NET, have?

Hi guys ...

My own experience says - allthough it might be provocative - to say that a
disk has allways 64 heads and 32 secs/cyl. The advantage is that the
number of cylinders equals the number of formatted MB's. Since the net'
MB's are allways given it should be no problem to determine the number
of cylinders (each of size 1 MB with those parameters). Nevertheless it might
become hard to determine the exact nr. of cylinders due to some mystic
behaviour of Solaris @.#.%.. Try some binary search (1020 .. 1000 .. 1010 
.. 1015 .. 1013). This is my own way of doing. If someone knows a better one ...

PLEASE: Please mail ... no follow up's ... 


>A format.dat entry would be fine.

>Many thanks,

>Jonathan Sadler
>sadler@i88.isc.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: resetting pseudo-terminal sizes?
From: valdes@geosun.uchicago.edu (John Valdes)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:01:23 GMT
Organization: Department of the Geophysical Sciences, University of Chicago

This probably (used to be) an FAQ, as it's been a bug in SunOS for as
long as I've been using it (3.x days).  The problem is the size
(lines and columns) used by pseudo-terminals (ttypn).  Say I start a shell
in a terminal window under a windowing system (X, Openwin or Sunview,
doesn't matter) and resize the window so that it's 132 colums x 50 lines.
Say also that this window uses /dev/ttyp3.  Now if exit the shell (an
hence quit the window, freeing the tty) and then remotely log into the
system so that my login uses /dev/ttyp3, the terminal size will still
be set to 132 cols by 50 lines!  This is most annoying, esp. when trying
to edit a file.  I know that I can use stty or resize to set the proper
dimensions, but I would much prefer having the pseudo-terminal driver 
(re)size the terminal properly itself.  Is there a fix available for this?

John Valdes
valdes@geosun.uchicago.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.mail.uucp
From: engstrom@src.honeywell.com (Eric Engstrom)
Subject: SunOS 4.1.1 uucp (BNU/HDB) ACU limit of 9600bps??????
Originator: engstrom@moriarty.src.honeywell.com
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center, Minneapolis, MN
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:01:40 GMT


Ok.  I'm really frustrated now.  

I've been mucking with our uucp configuration recently (got some new faster
modems) and have seem to found an odd limit/bug in SunOS 4.1.1 uucp
(basically BNU/HDB SVR3 uucp).

As an example, I had several sites configured as such:

  Systems excerpt:
    foosite Any ACU tb19200 Out5551212 ogin:--ogin: xxxxx ssword: xxxxx
  Devices excerpt:
    ACU ttyz05 - tb19200 tbplus
    ACU ttyz05 - tb9600 tbplus
  Dialers excerpt:
    tbplus	=W-,	"" \dA\pT\r\c OK\r \pATDT\T\r\c CONNECT STTY=crtscts

The modems were configured/locked to talk at 19200, and dialing out using
tip(1) worked fine (as well as dialing in).  However, I could not get cu(1)
to dial out, and, when I watched the uucico debug output, it appeared to be a
speed problem.

So, I dropped the speed on the modems to 9600 and changed the line from the
Systems file to be:
    foosite Any ACU tb9600 Out5551212 ogin:--ogin: xxxxx ssword: xxxxx

Now everything works fine (except slower).  The SunOS 4.1.1 "System and 
Network Administration Guide", section 3 "Network Communications
Administration", chapter 21 "Administering the UUCP System", says that direct
links may achieve "[t]ransfer rates of up to 19200 [bps]."  There is no such
restriction listed just below in the paragraph describing Telephone line
connections using ACUs, nor anywhere else that I have looked.

Ok, so here comes my question:  It this version of the UUCP software that
brain-dead that I can't run ACU devices faster than 9600 bps?  If so, is
there a system patch somewhere that I can apply to alter this fact?  If not,
this must be a "bug."

Other potentially relevant systems information:  SunOs 4.1.1 on Sparc2.
Modems connected using a Sun "Serial Parallel Controller" in an SBus slot
(adds 8 serial ports and 1 parallel port).  Note that the documentation for
this product explicitly states that I may run devices at speeds upto 38400.
Modems in question: Telebit T3000, Telebit TrailBlazer Plus, MultiTech
MultiModem V.32.

TIA for any help,
Eric
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From: shawn@litsun.epfl.ca (Shawn Koppenhoefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: sun beep... is it changeable?
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:31:37 GMT
Reply-To: shawn@litsun.epfl.ch
Distribution: comp
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne



I want to change the "beep" of my sun so that it is different
from the sun across from me. Is there a way of changing the tone
of the beep to be lower/higher??

how about .au files?? can i set things up so that the beep on my
sparcELC is different than the beep on the sparcELC across from me...
say... a soft chime??

i've scanned archie with keywords like "beep" "audio" "bell"... but
nothing comes up matching what I need. Likewise for wais and scanning
through the archived news articles... it seems that EVERYONE in the
world has the same type of beep as me! 

any ideas?


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