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From: Morgan@icarus.curtin.edu.au (Bruce Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Adding Machines, Slide Rule Wanted
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:05:54 GMT
Organization: Computing Centre, Curtin University, Perth, Western Australia

In article <100560001@hpcvra.cv.hp.com
writes:>From: jimd@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Jim Donnelly)
>Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:42:42 GMT
>Subject: Adding Machines, Slide Rule Wanted
>
>I've collected a few early calculating gadgets over the years,
>and would like to add a few of models to the collection:

>3) A Swiss "Millionare" adding machine.  This was one of the first
>   models that could multiply, and some insurance companies bought

As I have a small collection of old calculators, I particularly
noticed a "Millionare" in a Paris antique shop last year.
It had a price tag of ff35,000. i.e. about US$7,000.
This is one of the reasons my calculator collection remains
small. 8-(


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From: maryw@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Mary Williams)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:05:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Gluing 1892 Spode plate
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.antiques

If you don't want to do your own repair, I know of a business that restores
fragile objects, including fine china. They get unbelievable results, even
on smithereens. Talk to them about their different "levels" of restoration
at different price ranges. They'r Venerable Classics at 1-800-531-2891. 
If this sounds like a shameless testimonial, it's because I'm a very satisfied
customer of theirs.                        
                       good wishes,

                          maryw
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From: schooler@apollo.hp.com (Richard Schooler)
Subject: Re: Cameras
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:57:19 GMT
Organization: HP/Apollo Massachusetts Language Lab

From McKeown's Price Guide to Antique and Classic Cameras, 7th ed.
1990-1991:

Kodak Folding Cartridge Premo Cameras - Folding-bed rollfilm cameras.
Meniscus Achromat or Rapid Rectilinear lens.
No. 2A - 1916-26. 2 1/2" x 4 1/4" on 116 film. $10-15.

Argus AF - 1937-38.  35mm cartridge camera with bakelite body.  Argus
Anastigmat 50/4.5 in collapsible mount.  (This model focuses to 15".)
$15-25.

Kodak Brownie Bulls Eye - 1954-60.  Vertically styyled bakelite camera
with metal faceplate and focusing Twindar lens.  For 2 1/4' x 3 1/4"
on 620 film.  Black: $10-15.  Gold: $15-20.

        -- Richard
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From: joyce@deco.csd.sgi.com (Joyce Richards)
Subject:  prices on heywood wakefield 
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:33:59 GMT

someone recently posted asking about heywood-wakefield furniture.
i was out at various haunts in the bay area this past weekend and
saw the following prices:
end tables starting at $125.
6-piece bedroom set with X's was $3300.
many single pieces in the $300-$400 range.

joyce.
-- 
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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Stromberg-Carlson AM-FM Radio
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:00:10 GMT

Jerry Pelikan <C05705GP@WUVMD> writes:
>>In article <16841686D.SDOGGETT@cmsa.gmr.com>, SDOGGETT@cmsa.gmr.com says:
>>In article <92224.135649C05705GP@wuvmd.wustl.edu>
>>C05705GP@WUVMD (Jerry Pelikan) writes:
>>>Any help or information about either will be muchly appriciated.
>>>Jerry Pelikan  c05705gp@wuvmd.wustl.edu
>>>
>>Most larger libraries carry Sam's Photofact's.  These are folders containing
>>se
>>rvice information on radios, tv's, etc.  All you need is a model number or
>>chas
>>sis number and you can look it up in the Sam's index.  Your S-C is covered in
>>f
>>older 37-23.  This indicates it's a 1946 model.  Sam's covers 1946 and newer.
>>for older sets, use Rider's Perpetual Troubleshooters Manuals, these are
>>harder
>> to find, yet some large libraries have them.  Good luck, Spence.
>>
>Thanks Spence.
>I had tried the public library, The librarian looked in the index for me.
>Appearently she didn't look very carfully, as she said it was not there.
>Now that I have the folder number I will call her back and see if she has
>it.
*----
Good luck.  I've NEVER seen a Sams photofact folder at a public
library.  I used to see an occasional Rider book, but most libraries
don't have the shelf space to keep that kind of stuff around forever,
and I haven't seen one at a library in a long time.

Most of the early Photofact folders are out of print.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
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From: okunewck@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Phil OKunewick)
Subject: Re: Need help with an old phone
Organization: Random, at best
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:01:27 GMT

schutt@netcom.com (David G. Schutt) writes:
>With only three wires to worry about on your Ericsson, you could quickly
>determine which ones (if any) will work by trying each combination of
>two to the telephone company's red and green. You won't hurt the phone
>companies stuff or your own by wrong combinations.
>
>When you hear dial tone and can dial, you know you have the right
>combination. Then if the bell won't ring, you might try connecting
>the Ericsson wire that is left over to first the red (from the telephone
>compay) and try the bell again. If that doesn't work, connect the left
>over wire from the Ericsson to the green (from the telephone company)
>and try the bell again.

   (Reverse trying the third wire to "red" and "green" in the above
paragraph - the ringer return wire was connected to ground up 'til the
'60s; it's now connected to Tip (green).)

   If the third wire is required to make the bell ring, and if
connecting it to the phone co's red wire makes it ring, then the phone
is now wired in backwards.  Switch the connections to the red and
green wires.

   It shouldn't make any difference with a rotary phone, anyway.  But
some touch-tone phones don't work if they're wired in backwards.

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From: teicher@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Thomas Eicher)
Subject: Wooton Desk
Keywords: wooton rolltop desk
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:24:55 GMT

I have a Wooton Rotary Desk that I am considering selling. It is a 
tambour rolltop with three drawers below the writing surface and two
rotary cases. The left case contains 24 pasteboard letter drawers (all 
present) and the right case is a combination of vertical spaces for 
account books and horizontal shelves for paper, etc. It measure 
about 54" closed and 78" with the cases open.

I know that the Wooton Secretaries are very valuable, but I have no idea 
about the Wooton rotary desks. The desk is walnut and in very good condition. 

I would like to get a notion of its value before trying to sell it and 
would appreciate hearing from anyone regarding the value of this piece. 
I've checked most of the price guides but have found nothing. 

Tom Eicher
teicher@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu
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From: rwtucker@starbase.mitre.org (Richard W. Tucker)
Subject: Tiddlywinks
Summary: Tiddlywinks antiques, ephemera, anything
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 01:33:21 GMT

In search of... anything having to do with the classic game of
tiddlywinks.  Tiddlywinks was invented in 1888 in England; the name
was trademarked as TIDDLEDY-WINKS in 1889; the decade of the 1890s was
its heyday as a popular pastime.  In the modern era, tiddlywinks has
been a collegiate and post-collegiate activity for US and British
winkers from MIT, Cornell, Harvard, Cambridge University, Oxford, and
others.

I am always interested in citations to tiddlywinks, old or new, and
examples of antique and modern games, ordinary or extraordinary (e.g.
tiddledy tennis), artwork, etc.

If you have any pointers, send me info.  Thanks.

Rick Tucker, 5505 Seminary Road #1206N, Falls Church VA 22041 USA
North American Tiddlywinks Association
+1-703-671-7098
rwtucker@mitre.org

From: jimd@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Jim Donnelly)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:42:42 GMT
Subject: Adding Machines, Slide Rule Wanted
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.antiques


I've collected a few early calculating gadgets over the years,
and would like to add a few of models to the collection:

1) A Victor 110 hand-crank adding machine.  I believe that this
   was the first model that Victor sold - there were many made,
   but I haven't found one yet.

2) A Burroughs adding machine from around the turn of the century.
   There were many models, so I'm not sure what I'll run into.

3) A Swiss "Millionare" adding machine.  This was one of the first
   models that could multiply, and some insurance companies bought
   a lot of them.

4) A Thatcher's slide rule.  Distributed by K&E, this was "the
   mother of all slide rules", with a rotating body mounted on a
   wooden base about two feet long.

Thanks in advance for any pointers!

Jim Donnelly
jimd@cv.hp.com
(503) 750-3855
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From: KCSCHIE@vm.cmp.ilstu.edu
Subject: WANTED: YO-YO's
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:47:12 EDT
Organization: Illinois State University

I'm looking for old or unique yo-yo's. Several years ago I started
playing with yo-yo's just for fun, and now I collect them as a hobby.
I'd love to hear from anyone with any original Duncan wooden yo-yo's
they would be willing to part with. My collection is just for my own
personal intrest, however, so I can't really afford to offer large
ammounts of money to anybody, but if you've got something you think is
pretty valuable, I could be interested anyway.
 
Thanks!
Kyle C. Schiebel
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From: cpb@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Bednarz)
Subject: WANTED:OLD BARBER SHOP STUFF
Organization: Raytheon Company
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:38:01 GMT

	Hello folks

	I am a private collector of old BARBER SHOP STUFF .

	I am looking for old BARBER POLES , BARBER SHOP SIGNS , AND OLD
WOODEN BARBER SHOP CHAIRS . Barber poles and wooden chairs may be in any
condition (I always could use spare parts) . The signs must be in reasonably
good condition . I'm also looking for catalogs displaying OLD barber poles ,
chairs and misc. .

	If anyone else collects old barber shop items please contact me through the net, and we can compare notes .

	If you have something to sell or trade please send me a full discription and the price .

				Thank You 
				Chris P. B.
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 92 10:49:38 CST
From:         Jerry Pelikan <C05705GP@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: Stromberg-Carlson AM-FM Radio
Newsgroups:   rec.antiques

>
>In article <Bt4v0F.1qs@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, berger@atropa (Mike Berger) says:
>*----
>Good luck.  I've NEVER seen a Sams photofact folder at a public
>library.  I used to see an occasional Rider book, but most libraries
>don't have the shelf space to keep that kind of stuff around forever,
>and I haven't seen one at a library in a long time.
>
>Most of the early Photofact folders are out of print.
>--
>        Mike Berger
>        Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
>        AT&TNET     217-244-6067
>        Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu

Theoreticly the St. Louis Public Library, Main Branch, has the entire
set.  They keep them in a series of 4 drawer file cabinets, six I
think.  They let you pull them out and look, but you can't take them
home.

Jerry Pelikan  c05705gp@wuvmd.wustl.edu
From: dubuf@sicsun.epfl.ch (Hans DU BUF)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Adding Machines, Slide Rule Wanted
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:31:19 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <Morgan.117.0@icarus.curtin.edu.au>, Morgan@icarus.curtin.edu.au (Bruce Morgan) writes:
|> In article <100560001@hpcvra.cv.hp.com
|> writes:>From: jimd@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Jim Donnelly)
|> >Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:42:42 GMT
|> >Subject: Adding Machines, Slide Rule Wanted
|> >
|> >I've collected a few early calculating gadgets over the years,
|> >and would like to add a few of models to the collection:
|> 
|> >3) A Swiss "Millionare" adding machine.  This was one of the first
|> >   models that could multiply, and some insurance companies bought
|> 
|> As I have a small collection of old calculators, I particularly
|> noticed a "Millionare" in a Paris antique shop last year.
|> It had a price tag of ff35,000. i.e. about US$7,000.
|> This is one of the reasons my calculator collection remains
|> small. 8-(
|> 
|> 
|> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ 
|> \  John Newman                Internet: J.Newman@qmcc.curtin.edu.au      /
|> /  Computing Centre,                                                     \
|> \  Curtin University,        "There is less to this than meets the eye." /                         
|> /  Perth,  Western Australia          - Tallulah Bankhead                \
|> \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

You might try the auctions of scientific instruments by Christie's in
London and Glasgow, but maybe also in New York and Melbourne.

No, I am not working for Christie's ...

Hans du Buf
From: sundance@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Richard L McIntyre)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Stromberg-Carlson AM-FM Radio
Summary: The Purdue University Engineering Library has a complete set
	 of Sams Photofacts plus Rider manuals.
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:48:56 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network



  
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From: gt7932b@prism.gatech.EDU (Hunter Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Evel Knievel
Date: 22 Aug 92 16:06:44 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


	I found an Eval Knievel bike in my house the other day.. It's from the
early 70's I'd say..  It's one of those bikes with a plastic rotational thing
that you twirl until you get the bike going fast enough, then when you stop
spinning it takes off.. Now the question..  Does anyone know how much something
like this would be worth?  I dunno if this is the right place to even ask.. If 
not then don't wail on me.. 'kay?  :-)  The box is in _prefect_ comdition, it
hasn't even been opened..  Thanks..


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From: pmeredit@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Priscilla A Meredith)
Subject: Re: Gluing 1892 Spode plate
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:53:53 GMT

	There is also another organization that does wonderful repairs
 	Weibolds in Cinncinti, Ohio.   They specialize in fine repairs of
	of china and paintings.  I personally would never trust a good piece of        china to home repair if you have any hopes of the piece retaining the
	value.
Pris






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From: hornbuck@Xerox.com (Mike Hornbuckle)
Subject: WANTED: FALSTAFF Breweriana
Keywords: I currently collect beer cans/signs/mugs etc.  It has gotten to the point where I am running out of room so I am going to specialize in Falstaff beer "stuff".  Anybody out there have anything that says Falstaff on it?  I would prefer things from the old San Jose Brewing Company but am open to everything.  
Reply-To: hornbuck@Xerox.com (Mike Hornbuckle)
Organization: Xerox PARC
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:27:53 GMT

Thanks in advance!

--mike
From: SDOGGETT@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Old(er) radio - kinda funky
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:32:29 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

In article <1992Aug16.230557.21966@umbc3.umbc.edu>
robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD)) writes:

>
>This one also needs a battery (more specifically, a battery pack). It
>
Antique Electronc Supply, (602) 820-5411 carries some "older style" batteries.
 They list 45, 67.5 and 90 volt types, from 12.50 to $20.  I would agree with y
our second idea of making your own.  It shouldn't be too hard to connect severa
l in series.One warning you should be aware of; most of these AC/DC sets had
one one lead of the AC line cord connected to the chassis.  What that means i
s don't touch the chassis while it's plugged in.
>
>It appears to be a model 5G-500, if that helps.
>
>My sources state it's a 1941 model.
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From: sbambara@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu (Stephen Bambara)
Subject: pianos
Originator: sbambara@ent1.ent.ncsu.edu
Organization: Dept. of Entomology - NCSU, Raleigh, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:12:21 GMT



	I'll throw in a few words on pianos just for fun.  When my
wife and I could finally afford a piano (and a house to put it in),
we looked into refurbishing an old rectangular grand piano which
had been in her family for a few generations.  The cost to make it
sound good again (not just playable) would have been several thousand
dollars, and even then you don't have a quality musical instrument.
The design of these pianos is apparently flawed and they just can't
produce quality sound.  They were popular for a while because they
where not the awkward shape of a grand and could fit better in a room.
However, the companies evenually gave up on them.
	In most cases, when you buy an antique piano, you are buying
a piece of furniture and not a musical instrument.  The Steinway
may be an exception.  I would say that the Steinway was a good deal.
People would buy anything with the Steinway name on it and it apparently
still has good sound.  The baby grand style would be much more sought
after, though, I would guess.  Obviously, the value is only what the
market demand will bear.  I think I would shy away from replacing the
hammers unless the piano won't play properly with the ones it has.
However, enough restoration has already been done that it likely won't
change the value further.  Felts do wear, rot and become insect eaten 
and it is more undestandable that these would be replaced.
	We couldn't afford a Steinway, but my wife played a few in the
stores and was certainly impressed.  She recently had the opportunity
to play the Horowitz Steinway and said it was, without a doubt, the
best sounding and playing piano she had ever seen.
	As for the other poster's piano from London, that is more of 
an unknown quanity for me.  There is an antique store, here in town
which has one in the baby grand style with much guilding. I vaguely
recall that the asking price was somewhere around $10K.  I need to
mention, though, that it has been sitting in that store collecting
dust for, at least, five years.
-- 
=========================================================================
     Stephen Bambara                 phone (919) 515-3140 
     Box 7626                        fax   (919) 515-7746
     Raleigh, NC 27695               internet sbambara@ent.ncsu.edu
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From: robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD))
Subject: Old(er) radio - kinda funky
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:05:57 GMT

It all your fault!  Because there were so many positive responses to
a recent query for a radio battery, I impulsively picked up an
early portable this weekend (I know nothing about radios, but it
looks good next to the toaster).

This one also needs a battery (more specifically, a battery pack). It
may even be the same model as the other person's - I don't recall. I'd
appreciate any info. about this thing, if those of you with radio
expertise would share ...

This is a portable Zenith Universal that operates either from household
electricity, or a two-part  battery pack that aparently has both 6 volt
and 75 volt power outputs (naturally, it is a tube radio). It is about
the size of two shoe boxes, stacked atop each other, and has the same
tan-and-brown-striped, varnished fabric finish that I believe was
popular on luggage in the late 40s, early 50s.  It has a leather carrying
handle on the top, and two covers, one in front and one in back. They
hinge down to reveal the AM tuning dial, on/off, etc. up front, and the
battery pack, tubes, other "guts" of the radio, and the remote antenna.

The neatest (I think so, anyway) feature is this antenna. It looks like
something that a kid would get when they sent away to the Superman fan
club.  It's kind of hard to believe that adults would buy a product
with an antenna called the "Zenith RADIO Wavemagnet" (put appropriate
lightning bolt symbols all around the name), especially when it is
shaped like a big cardboard horseshoe magnet and painted red with
silver "magnetic" tips (more lightning symbols there).  At the tips of
the painted-on magnet are two suction cups for you to use to attach
your "Wavemagnet" to the window.  The window of what?  It gets better ...
There is a switch inside the radio so that you can adjust the "Wavemagnet"
for use inside your car or train window; your ship or plane window; or
for home or outdoor use.  The antenna itself is a bit larger than a sheet
of typing paper, so you couldn't be too subtle about using it in public.

Based on the material used for the exterior finish, I am guessing late
40s or early 50s - any better info.?

It appears to be a model 5G-500, if that helps.

The battery pack is Zenith no. Z-675.  I'd like to find a replacement for
it, if available, but am also considering carefully taking apart the
cardboard package and replacing the original pack with rechargeable
batteries.  The package is interesting, as well: it is labeled "Packaged
Power" for a Zenith "Long Distance" radio.  Does this sound feasible?
I suspect that the battery pack's innards are ganged-together standard
batteries, wouldn't you think?

Thanks for any info.

Bill
From: krulwich@zowie.ils.nwu.edu (Dov (Bruce) Krulwich)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Antique shop near NY/NJ/PA -- Land of Nee
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:01:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences, Evanston, IL



My father in law runs an antique shop in Northeastern Pennsylvania less than
two hours from NYC and Philidelphia.  It's a real cute shop with great
bargains, in an area with several other antique shops as well.  It's right at
the Deleware Water Gap, which is a gorgeous area to spend a day before or
after going antiquing.

To get there from NYC, take 80W to Portland, then go over the bridge and take
611 South for about 3 1/2 miles.  The shop is on the right side of the road,
and is called "Land of Nee."

It's equally easy from Philidelphia, but I don't have the directions handy.

"and tell 'em Dov sent ya."


Dov (Bruce) Krulwich
krulwich@ils.nwu.edu

 
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From: schutt@netcom.com (David G. Schutt)
Subject: Re: Need help with an old phone
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:35:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

With only three wires to worry about on your Ericsson, you could quickly
determine which ones (if any) will work by trying each combination of
two to the telephone company's red and green. You won't hurt the phone
companies stuff or your own by wrong combinations.

When you hear dial tone and can dial, you know you have the right
combination. Then if the bell won't ring, you might try connecting
the Ericsson wire that is left over to first the red (from the telephone
compay) and try the bell again. If that doesn't work, connect the left
over wire from the Ericsson to the green (from the telephone company)
and try the bell again.

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