From: x91waqas@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: WhyIsSwineProhibited? Answer.
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:09:46 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Oct12.141742.5822@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct12.084734.5755@gw.wmich.edu> x91waqas@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>In article <BvzMLt.74u@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bha
> tnagar) writes:
>>> In article <1992Oct11.204149.5752@gw.wmich.edu> 894waqas@gw.wmich.edu writes
> :
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>  The pig does not reproduce like other animals. More than one male pig 
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> - 
>>>>uses the same female pig.  
>>>  ~~~~---------------------  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> To say that Male [Chauvinist?] pigs *USE* female pigs is representative of
>>> a real Male Chauvinist [Pig?] attitude. How about saying that each female pi
> g
>>> *uses* more than one male [Chauvinist?] pig?
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>The father of the child is not known.  This is a
>>>>dirty act and no other animals does it.  
>>>>
>>> 
>>> another of those things that make one go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
>>> 
>>> I thought the institution of marriage that binds one male to one 
>>> (or upto 4) female did not extend much beyond only a majority of 
>>> the humans. 
>>> 
>>
>>Dear Brother,
>>
>>    I think you are talking about Islam and Muslims.  Well, Islam allow a
>>man to get wed upto four women if he can do justice among them, if not he has 
>>to marry only one.  First to explain why is it that a man is allowed to marry 
>>upto four women?  Well, my brother, if you check man to woman ratio in your 
>>country and rest of the world you will come up with the statistics similar to 
>>this: six females for one male.  Now, my brother, if you get all the men 
>>married to one and only one female, you will be left with five female without 
>>husband.  Now, what about those five female left over, is it justice to leave 
>>them as they are or should one do something about it?  Doctors say that
>>psychologically and biologically she needs a mate and it's not good for her
>>health not to have one.
> 
>            Dear brother which country you are talking about, or are you
>  talking about medieval period. All countries I know of , have nearly
>  1:1 male:female ratio.  Also, why four only , if ratio is six
>  according to you.

Dear Brother Raja,

	I can see that you are not knowledgable of world's or your own country's
statistics.  I strongly urge you to check world ratio for man and woman at your
library if you have one.


> 
>>
>>    I don't see any solution to this problem in any other relegion except
>>Islam.  But the condition to marry them is if one can do justice among them.  
>>Further more, there is no other religious scripture that says, "if you can not
> 
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>>do justice among them then marry only one."  Now, if one male has four female 
> 
>>----------------------===================
>>it is always know who is the mother and the father.  But if you do it the othe
> r
>>way around one can not tell who is the father.  It is simply illogical.
>>    
> 
>       To talk like this smells of male superioirity complex. Tell me why
> is it necessary to know the father. In a society where one woman is 
> allowed to marry many men, one can always know the mother and mother's
> name should be sufficient for all purpose. One can know the father by
>  genetic testing, if one wishes. 
> 

	If you think that it is alright for a person not to know who is his/her
father then why should one know who is his/her mother?   It seems that knowing
father for you does not have any importance, but it is necessary for self
identity.  I did not say anything which can reflect any of the sort you
understood.  It seems you have some perception about me and think it is true.



>        As far as doing justice goes, I think it is only theoretical.
>  Many muslims marry more than omne wives, and I don't think most of
>  them do justice to all of them.
>

	Don't confuse Muslims with relegion, Muslims have weaknesses and it
does not mean that if you become Muslim you automatically follow everything
(which one should.)  If they do injustice they are wrong and not following
Islam. Muslims are human like any other humans.  As far as we 
have bad Muslims you have bad people in every relegion.  If a Muslim do 
something it does not mean that it must necessarily mean it's Islamic. Muslims
are HUMAN BEING.  

> 
>       Also, someone pointed out on SCP sometime back that Muhammed
>  (PBUH) had nine wives. Is that true ?
> 
>    Raja

	You are informed correctly. 



Your Brother,

Akhtar Waqas.
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