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From: sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG)
Subject: Re: PUBS IN BANGALORE
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:56:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.154353.14845@hellgate.utah.edu> nkramesh%harpo.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nanda Ramesh) writes:
...
>
>BTW, the food discussion was great...Guess, I will have to beg
>or borrow to go home in December.. :) And does anybody know
>how to make Pav-Bhaji? Remember the guy near Mahila-Seva-Samaj?
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't know whether we are talking about the same person...
There was a man in front of National High School, Basavanagudi.
We used to call him "Kaka". He used to prepare and sell some absolllllutely
fabulous stuff prepared using "KaDle Puri", like "Tomato puri", "Carrot 
puri" etc.  Also stuff like "BeLe", and so many other items whose names 
I can't remember right now. "Kaka" used to be a great expert at these things,
so much so that very often, _all_ my pocket money used to go to him 
(this was during my days in NHS ---- 1975-1978).

That's enough, I think. Too much mouth-watering may be bad for health!

>Nanda 
>Department of Computer Science,   |       |~~     |   

Regards,

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From: vsm@lotus.Eng.Sun.COM (Murali V. Srinivasan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Re: Re : Bangalore - A nostalgic retrospective
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:42:13 GMT
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In article <DINESHA.92Nov6024132@bass.bu.edu>, dinesha@bass.bu.edu (Dinesh Venkatesh) writes:
|> 
|> I guess you were talking about Veena stores when talking about idlis in
|> malleswaram.. I do agree that they were ( with his chutney) among the best
|> idlis I ever ate..
|>
 
Veena stores has vades too. In fact, you can ask for "GattHi" chutney, instead of the semi-liquid one. Talking about Idli stands, the shed on Rangarao road (or TanGa Tao Tasste) is also very very very good. If you can go to MTR, before 7 in the morning you can get Akki idli with sambar, during avarekkai season the sambar would be <some vegtable> + avarekkai (SSSSSSSSSSSSLLLLLLLLLLLLUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRPPPPPPPPPP).

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From: ramprasa@halide.ecn.purdue.edu (Ramprasad Ramakrishna)
Subject: Re: NAMASKARA
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:04:13 GMT


>>> Why don't we stop the discussion on hotels,bakeries,
CHURUMURI and PANEE PURI gaadies ,it is becoming sick.
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Aye lets start discussing Big Macs and Whoppers

Or how about a high-brow discussion on Kannada Literature
LOw-blow disc. on Kar. Politics.

Actually I am enjoying the topic
and to hell with all wet blankets
If you are getting sick use "kill" or "unsub"
Prasad
From: ganeshj@cs.tamu.edu (Ganesh Jayadevan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Hotels/Karnataka cuisine
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:08:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

Namaskara,
	The discussion on hotels and what is good where 
was excellent but let me strike a discordant note here.
It was good till Rahul. T talks about cakes, milk bread etc
available in Brigades.. I feel this is not part of true
ethnic Bangalore  which was I understand the theme of
the discussion.

In adding to the discussion, I left Bangalore about
a year ago and at that time, there was a surge of
the DARSHINIs  which I thought was something close
to the fast food culture here in the West but done
in native style. I loved the bisi idlis and vades 
on baLada ele. It might be a good idea if someone
could improve the traditional idlis and vades 'to go'.
My guess is that this should serve Bangalore well,
since life is getting busier by the day and more 
couples seem to employed. May be a welcome break for
working house-wives instead of making thindi before
going to work.
Any ideas guys?
Ganesh
ganeshj@cs.tamu.edu

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From: Sandesh.Devegowda@launchpad.unc.edu (Sandesh Devegowda)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Beer, beer and more beer!
Keywords: Beer beer beer
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:00:02 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

I do not understand why people should flame at almost anything...
I, though not from Blore (Hassan) used to be a regular visitor to the city
and its great pubs.

And I enjoyed every one of them with a relish known to beer drinkers alone.
Get real, I have not found such good draft beer in such copious quantities
anywhere else.  Even here, I prefer drinking Kingfisher (which
a neighbourly bartender gets, though it is much more expensive.

I have seen almost all the pubs in the Majestic, Kumara Park, Shivajinagar,
and of course around MG road...  true, people who hang out there may not
be the same kind (with the same savvy or pub culture) as here, but hey
they are our brothers, and that makes it better there.  At least, when
you drink, you are not artificial like you always are.

I would prefer to drink in one of those joints more than anywhere else in 
the world.  I have memories and experiences during those times which I
can never ever dream of recreating, and I am sure every moment has been
worthwhile!

As for the quote "Never trust...", even I noticed it in "THE PUB" a long time
ago, and just laughed at the brains of the guy who thought of it;
maybe he was immersed inside a barrel when it was revealed to him!!
Why do you flame at it?  Does it itch you all over when you see it,
does it molest your righteousness?
If you cannot tolerate it, just hit k like all the right thinking
humans do.  If you can't do that, go get yourself a life.
I think you are pathetic.

Let people say whatever you want to say.  You wanna flame them,
jump into the nearest duck pond.

BTW, Naveena, MCE na??  Now I know why you are not replying to my
mails to you.  Too busy here?  Better reply or I shall call
Venuraju in Hassan!

Ellarigu Shubhashayagalu
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From: gnrg7661@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (G. N. Rao )
Subject: Re: PUBS IN BANGALORE
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 06:08:15 GMT

deepu@loca.eece.unm.edu (Pradeep Vittal) writes:
>....... yet to sprout FACIAL HAIR sitting in places like The Pub, 
>Oaken Cask etc swilling beer........... 

Yes, the people who run the pubs don't give a damn about it.  Three years
ago, on a Saturday afternoon, I saw two kids (yes, in school uniform!)
walk into RAMDA and share a glass of beer.  In five minutes they were 
gone.  We (my friends and I) spent the next 30 minutes talking about
the future of our younger generation.

>......that most of these chaps (at least 50 - 60%) sooner or later try country
>liquor ( for kicks) and in many cases GRASS. Many ACK readers will agree with
>me!! this is a VERY DANGEROUS trend.

You couldn't have said it better.  What starts off as a fad, soon turns into
addiction.  Many of my friends switched to drinking hard liquor (the cheap
ones) because they got more "kick" out of the same volume of consumption!

> Our BANGALORE already has enough on its plate. A DRINKING PROBLEM AMONG ITS
>YOUTH is certainly one it can do without!!!!! 

The city municipality should come out with stringent "drinking age restrictions"

and enforce it strictly.  Unfortunately more regulations make way for
more corruption!!

>May it continue to be known fo favaourable qualities like electronics, science
>and tech, its salubrious climate, hospitability etc and not as the dump
>favoured by lovers of bachus!!

>hope i have'nt come across as a pitcher of beer gone flat!! just thought
>i'd say a few words....

>PRADEEP VITTAL
>Direct all broken bottle pieces to 

No, you deserve a bottle of Champagne!!

--Guru Rao
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From: kulki@cs.toronto.edu (Dattatraya Kulkarni)
Subject: Re: : Bangalore - A nostalgic retrospective 
Keywords: karnataka cuisine, restaurants 
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:58:05 GMT

krishna@seas.smu.edu (Sanjay Krishna) writes:

>I am by no means a conossieur of karnataka or Bangalore "hotel" oota or cuisine. 
>However my ranking of restaurants in Bangalore by individual items is as 
>follows - 

>       Sapna ( near Rex) - Tops for Rave idli.
>       Janata ( 8th cross and Sampige, Malleswaram) - this is the best for 

How can you forget soup-bonda in Sapna? Also, have you eaten the icecream
varieties there. I think among many my favorite was Honey-roasted almonds.
(Boy, did I love picking those cashews from top of rave idli?) 

>       MTR - good in everything ?

You bet it. MTR meduvade-sambar tops though.

>I am hoping to hear what others have to say. 

Does anyone remember the 17th cross idli shop in Malleswaram? (It is
very near to Agrawal bhavan and Malleswaram bus-stand). Those steaming,
pleasantly sourish, idlis topped with butter, ahaa!

If you were a bachelor, you had a home in shakti and suhas restaurants
on sampige maarga. There was always the same menu, same taste --
Tomato rice, curd rice, gobi-masala, moong-dal, and those 60 paise
chapathis. We knew the owners so well, you leave a 100 buck note if he
does not have change (you pay next day otherwise). The dinner is normally
topped with banana shake, or sweet lassy. Once in a while you tend to 
go to sri-krishna also. 

The weekends, after a tiring day of chasing movie tickets for an
Annavra cinema in Santhosh, or Juhi cinema in Kapali you normally go
for a round of Burma bazaar before retiring to sukhsaagar. Favorite there,
was either Bombay-thali or a number of gujarathi dishes. (does anybody
remember those nostalgic zodiac signs on the inside walls?)

It was rex, or blue diamond, or symphony, or lido sometimes. Watch an
English movie, have a coffee in "The Indian Coffee Shop", and make the 
10th round of the day on MG Road-- Brigade intersections. Once in a while
you go to commercial street too. What was the sweet shop on commercial street?
Boy, nothing can mathc the festive mood during Diwali shopping spree.
(That reminds me of the cop infront of commercial street police station;
it was his modus-operandi to watch you helplessly park below the noparking
sign, and when you come back and are just about put the helmet on,
there he is, "yen saar, licence kodi, kalithovru saar. Reciept madlebeku
saar, sahebru thumba strictu", and you slowly pull out a 20 buck note 
and say "Irli bidipa, ondaid nimisha, yen rush yenthana, barla").

Hey, let me stop this, otherwise I may have to go to my travel agent :)

cheers (hey I forgot Ramda and San Peters, well some other time)

--kulkarni 


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From: raja@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Malur Ra Rajashekhar)
Subject: Re: Bangalore: A Nostalgic Perspective (part 1)
Followup-To: raja@cevax2.ce.jhu.edu
Summary: Basavanagudi katteyalli sanje 
Keywords: Bangalore, Bangalore, Bangalore
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: alt.culture.karnataka
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:45:31 GMT

 In message <1992Nov4.221648.8865@cs.wayne.edu>
 Rahul writes :

"In this part let me try to take all you Bangalorians into
a typical hotel (say Raghavendra Tiffin Rooms). Which other
city has the rich collection of hotels so conveniently
located? Remember the evening walks with friends down a
popular street (in my case it is Sampige road)?"

- we had a "katte" in gandhi bazaar. In the evenings, before 
  leaving home, I would say "amma, katteg hog bartinamma" !
  And we had "katte"s at gandhi bazaar, and tyagaraj nagar.
  And we had regular exchange of members as well. And the usual
  thing after assembly of minimum members (2-4) is "coffeeg
  hogona nadiro"  to Ganesh Bhavan on DVG Road.  

" You have already decided what you would like;
still when the waiter approaches and asks "yen beku?", you almost
always say "yen yen ide?". The waiter then reels off all the things
in his mind "Masala dose, vade, pulav, puri, rave iddly, bla. bla, bla..."

 - After he continously delivers his list, it was fun to order 
 "by-two coffee togonbarappa"

 And when we were in a big gang, coffee used to be ordered in all 
 possible combinations, 5 by 10, 6 by 12, and what not ! And then 
 sometimes somebody would order some bondas etc, somebody would smoke
 and even to finish off coffee, it used to take half-an-hour !
 And so many waiters would request us to sit near the tables alloted 
 to them because then, after giving "coffee" and "matches" they can
 take rest for half-an-hour !!

 And to talk about the topics discussed at length in the katte, 
 right from the happenings in the college that day, to happenings
 in the world with so many interruptions and ofcourse parallel 
 processing too among splinter groups !!

 those were the days ........

Malur R Rajashekhar
From: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Re: Bangalore - A nostalgic retrospective
Date: 6 Nov 1992 21:39:03 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <BxAzAM.KHt@acsu.buffalo.edu>, girishs@acsu.buffalo.edu (Girish S. Mulubagal) writes:
>Namaskara,
>	After reading about all the good hotel's in bangalore i am really 
>surprised that no one made even a passing mention to sanman right next  to kino
>theatre on subedar chatram road in seshadripuram, swathi behind central on

Yes. that was the one I was trying to remember. Sanman. The Rave Idli, onion
dose, and tea were fabulous in Sanman. I wrongly said Platform Road, instead of
Subedar Chattram Road. Thanks for the reminder, Girish.

-Murali
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From: nkramesh%harpo.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nanda Ramesh)
Subject: Re: PUBS IN BANGALORE
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:43:52 MST
Organization: CSS Research Group

In article <kencham.721427552@centi>, kencham@centi.cs.umn.edu (Deepak) writes:
|> In <9211101518.AA20874@mik.uky.edu> mhiri01@mik.uky.edu writes:
|> 
|> [ Tons of crap regarding pubs in Bangalore, expunged ]
|> 
|> What are these two blokes trying to tell us when they list the N pubs
|> in Bangalore ? Its given B'lore a lot of popularity amongst the youth
|> (unwanted) and is sure the screw up the general 'image' of B'lore.
|> 
|> So guys, go drown yourselves in beer etc., but don't drag B'lore along
|> with you !

Now, Now...no need to get upset and all worked up about it.
Look at me, in Utah and it's 3% beer on which you don't get drunk
even after 4cans, for a relatively new drinker :(

Anyway, I agree with you, Deepak, but not your tone...No
need to start stupid flame wars here too :). I too feel that
the increased number of pubs in bangalore will end up
creating trouble.  Some points to consider..

1. Why is the pub culture so prevalent in Bangalore
   than in other cities? ( No statistics..general opinion)

2. Does the bangalore youth really need such a temptation
   to indulge in, when they could be doing better things?

3. The pubs tend to become center's for other harmful and
   wasteful activities.

Now, an incident to show that Beer drinking is indeed harmful.
I was stopped by a police man near channel-9, Jayanagar while
driving on a scooter. Put his face close to mine and asked my name.
He let us go after that. Now you can guess, why he did that!
If they are becoming that concerned, you can infer that there
has been quite a number of incidents involving drunken driving.
I am not saying that all pubs should be closed..etc. Just that
it is getting a bit out of hand.
Do we need that?

BTW, the food discussion was great...Guess, I will have to beg
or borrow to go home in December.. :) And does anybody know
how to make Pav-Bhaji? Remember the guy near Mahila-Seva-Samaj?


Nanda 



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From: vishwa@beach.csulb.edu (Viswanath Nanjundiah)
Subject: Lyrics of "Jaya karnatataka"
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:13:53 GMT

It was good to see the lyrics of the song NITYOTSAVA. Can someone please
post the lyrics of "Jaya karnataka...Maate, Jayageete haadi sutarella
koodi, vandisuvevu janmadaate..." ? Thanks in advance
vishwa

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From: nkramesh%harpo.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nanda Ramesh)
Subject: Re: PUBS IN BANGALORE
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:37:50 MST
Organization: CSS Research Group

In article <y7cqw4+@lynx.unm.edu>, deepu@loca.eece.unm.edu (Pradeep Vittal) writes:

|> have a strong point. i agree with them as i feel there is no REGULATION
|> enforcedon the customers (age, etc). i have seen kids (adolescents) of 
|> impressionable
|> ages yet to sprout FACIAL HAIR sitting in places like The Pub, 
|> Oaken Cask etc swilling beer ( and even hard liquor) in large groups. 
|> Also, many of these kids seem to be from middle/upper class families. 
|> where do they get money from for a pitcher of beer which, reports say can 
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> cost upto Rs 100 ? 

This was pretty much the point I wanted to raise, but I guess Pradeep
said it better than me.
My feeling is that it comes out of the parents hard earned money. And
I am sure in most cases, the parents do not even know that their money
is being wasted on drinking etc. I can even go as far as to say,
that most of these kids lie at home when they ask for the money.
Remember we are talking about students here, and not working people.
Now before any of you say that the same can be true for drugs..
one important differance is that it is *not* freely/openly
available. In my 5yrs ( you know why ) at BMS I have seen 
somebody taking drugs on campus only once..

This brings us back to the Question why pub culture has grown
so much in Bangalore and has become fashionable. One guess,
maybe that it is because of the high number of young technical
graduates working in high flying companies, earning a lot,
mostly bachelors, and having free time in the evening.

Prashanth said:

  >3. The pubs tend to become center's for other harmful and
  >   wasteful activities.

|> Well I certainly disagree to this point; in that you seem to be equating the
|> PUBS with the BARS which are usually assosiated with these activities.

You are right. I was kind of equating like that. But pradeep's
post has put the issue in a better way...

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From: j0srin01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Veerappa Moily for CM......
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:49:15 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Hi Folks,
	
	Now that Mr. Sarekoppa Bangarappa has resigned, the selection of the
   next Chief Minister of Karnataka is in spotlight. My candidate would be
   undoubtedly Mr. Veerappa Moily who has been the forefront of Karnataka
   politics for more than two decades. It was he who started this talk of a
   'Major Surgery' to set right the administration. As the Education Minister,
   he started many new projects to reform the educational structure. 

       His motive was to make all the districts in Karnataka completely
   literate. Infact, if my memory serves me right, he did achieve this in one
   of the districts. 

	Let us all pool our opinion on this issue which should be decided real
   soon.


Jeevesh Srinivasamurthy.


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From: mhiri01@mik.uky.edu
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Subject: PUBS IN BANGALORE
Date: 11 Nov 1992 15:10:08 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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        I agree with Mr. prasanth's reply to Mr. depak's retort about the pub
culture in B'lore. Talking about boozing people WILL DRINK if they want to,
PUB or NO PUB. Also pubs are better and more enjoyable place ( which is the 
whole point) than the shady bars. I am not at all ashamed at pubbing in B'lore
and I WILL DROWN MYSELF IN BEER ; that should not bother anybody as long I am
not forcing u 2 go to the pubs. I fail to understand how the PUBS are spoiling
the culture of B'lore as some wise guy pointed out. If u think they do I feel
sorry for you ; cause culture is not gauged by pubs or monuments. I have not
met or heard anyone saying B'lore is going to dogs because of the pubs . 
LONG LIVE BANGALORE and THE PUBS IN BANGALORE
                                               take it easy
                                                            praveen
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From: ramprasa@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramprasad Ramakrishna)
Subject: Thindi et al.
Reply-To: ramprasa@cn.ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:26:41 GMT

Keywords: 

The best Bondas, Pakoras, Chilli Bajjis
in MALleswara
was undoubtedly
the shop on SAMPIGE road 
opposite the "kadu Malleswara~ temple.

He used to make chaklee, and mixture also.
ha and KODBELES , (the best Kannadiga thindi)
Lot of talk about MTR , cleanliness wise they are on tops but otherwise there are lot of other places with better tasting grub.

Bakeries
Drooooooooooool!!! smack
Puffs : M>B bakery Sampige road
Buns(the potato stuffed) : the bakery on 8th main
From: naveen@Autodesk.COM (Naveen Chandra)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: Re:NAMASKARA
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:35:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA



 
>>                    Why don't we stop the discussion on hotels,bakeries,
>>  CHURUMURI and PANEE PURI gaadies ,it is becoming sick.
>>   
>>  bye,
>>  manjunath H


  
    Did you ever have a life in Bangalore? Or at least similar 
 hangout.life situations in other places in our state. If you did
 not, well ....    Duh!