HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: Clothes Dry from the Top Down (was Dry Towel in the DRYER?)
Date: 11 Nov 92 06:27:02 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I should make a clarification at this point.  When I posted a summary
of the article before, I did not state clearly the mechanism by which
the downward flow of air is induced.  As I stated before, the article
(which appeared in a recent Science News; I can get the date and page
number if anyone really wants it) stated that gravity's effect on the
problem was negligible except as it relates to inducing a flow of air
downward along the surface of the cloth.  It is assumed that the cloth
is cooler than the surrounding air, hence the downward flow of air is
induced by the fact that air becomes more dense as it becomes cooler.
The cloth becomes drier on the top than the bottom because the
humidity of the air increases as it proceeds downward.  (Since the
temperature continues to fall, the relative humidity also increases.)

The first followup to my posting clarified this point, so I saw no
point in posting my own clarification.  If you want to argue the
merits of the assumptions made in the model used, I'll get you the
reference for the article in question (it's on my bookshelf at home,
so I can post it tomorrow if people are interested).

--Scott
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From: thumper@engin.umich.edu (Bob Topping)
Subject: Re: More odd net.acronyms (was Kryptonite bike locks)
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 21:54:04 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <9NOV199208194299@csa3.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:
>>> O Be-a-fine-girl-kiss-me-now UL (for astronomers)
>
>> Surely that's
>>   "O Be A Fine Girl Kiss Me Right Now Sweetie"
>> but I can't for the life of me remember what it's a mnemonic for ...
>
>You're both right (the words vary).
>
>A mnemonic for the classes of stars on the main sequence, from hottest
>to coolest.  The short form is "Oh be a fine girl -- kiss me" (O B A F G K M).
>Add some weird stars (the celestial kind, not the movie kind, regardless
>of whether they have body odor and whether you ever met them :) and you
>get "Wow! Oh be a fine girl -- kiss me (right now, smack!)," meaning
>W O B A F G K M R N S.  
>
>I forget why these letters were chosen for classes of stars, but I'm sure
>a good astronomy text or a query on sci.astro would tell you more than you
>ever wanted to know about the subject.  
>
>Joe "Just another personal opinion from a Class M planet of a Class G star" Chew

  Its a G V 2 (G (Roman 5) 2), actually.  :-{) 
  

  They were originally in the correct alphabetical order, but whoever it 
was that developed the system miscalculated a bunch of stuff.  Rather than
coming up with a new system, they just reordered everything.

  ObUL:  There is an acid so powerful that it can burn through anything
and everything; so they can't make it.


   --Bob "Back off man, I'm a scientist!" Topping


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From: Terry.Smith@f870.n800.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Smith)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: HERE'S HOW TO SHUT DOWN THE NET!
Date: Sat, 31 Oct 1992 15:07:10

 MTP> No, you're probably thinking of Julian Lennon's dad, who once said
 MTP> that he was better than god....
	Ahh.. a legend being born. What he actually said was that the beatles
were more poular in their day the Christ was in His. Considering they were
only one quarter as killed, lived longer than age 34, and weren't the subject
a capital trial before any provincial govenors with crowds baying for blood
[though some southern redneck preachers may like to imagine thats what
their hysteria amounted to.], I'd say he was right. However many in the bible
belt jumped on the excuse to get the primitive 'nigger' rythms they'd only
a few years before purged from the white folks stations stopped again.
	If you ever thought a pentecostal meeting resembled a Nuremburg
rally, you should have seen what my TV showed me then. Moslem Fundementalist
.. Who needs 'em, you got home grown:-)
Terry
 ps. I supply the term 'nigger' as used in the period. Use of this term
at your local soul food outlet is not recommended. Use by 20 Oct.1966.
 * Origin: Elizabeth Park BBS (3:800/870.0)

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From: flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage)
Subject: Re: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:40:26 GMT

In <1992Nov8.082834.21992@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar) writes:
>: flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage) writes:
>: > All I wanted was some information, if you don't have it, don't post, if
>: > you have nothing inteligent to say, say nothing
>: 
>: Gosh, Brad hasn't been reading this group very long, has he?

>Nope. He doesn't know the depths of depravity of which this group
>is capable.

>Bill 

You got that right, and I quit, pretty silly thing, I really enjoy the
subject area.......

And I am not talking about spelling.!

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From: troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Kryptonite Locks - Nitrogen/Freon chilling
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:44:00 GMT
	<Nov.4.16.02.59.1992.7283@math.rutgers.edu> <100659@bu.edu>
Organization: Right Coast HQ For Stupid Pub Tricks
In-reply-to: uni@acs.bu.edu's message of 5 Nov 92 00:22:58 GMT

>>>>> "Shaen" == Shaen Bernhardt <uni@acs.bu.edu> writes:

	Shaen> like amatuers to me... hell why even steel a clubbed
	Shaen> car, likely there's a equivilant car a block or two
	Shaen> away without the club.
Because all the good ones have Clubs!  You know, AAA, Cross Country
Auto Club!  :)

Rod "I don't belong to any stinkin' auto club" Troch
or
Rod "My Vette doesn't have a club" Troch
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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Halloween
Date: 12 Nov 1992 05:59:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

 Quoting some stuff I ripped from Panati:

  +>of the modern celebration (if it be) of Halloween to 5th Century B.C.
  +
  +>Ancient Celtics observed October 31 was the official end of summer.  

zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:

  +Except of course there wasn't a 31st October in 5BC - the day existed but it 
  +wasn't called that.  It should be the equinox, but those durned christians 
  +just can't leave a good calendar alone - nor the Romans neither.

Just so.  I thought of editorializing to that effect, but since I
was plagarizing him anyway, I thought I'd leave it as is.

  +How sure are you about the human sacrifice?  Are you sure this isn't a bit 
  +of anti-pagan propaganda?

Well, could be.  Panati's sources on holidays were:

George W. Douglas (rev. by Jane M. Hatch and Helen D. Compton),
  _The American Book of Days_, H.W. Wilson Co., 1978.

Maymie Krythe, _All About American Holidays_, Harper, 1962.

Robert J. Myer(s?), _Celebrations: The Complete Book of American
   Holidays_ (with eds. of Hallmark Cards), Doubleday, 1972.

The Douglas book was originally published in 1938.  It and some
other points make it possible.  Maybe I'll check it out this week.

  +        Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty

This makes no sense to me.


Terry "Say, when's Terry Day?" Chan
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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.nude
Subject: Re: Driving without shoes
Date: 13 Nov 1992 06:13:14 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

dechc00@tohi.DMI.USherb.Ca (CHRISTIAN DECHAMPLAIN) says:
  +>
  +>When I drive for a long time I often get hypnotized and sleep for a few
  +>seconds.  This is very dangerous and some people gave me this advice:
 
And some guy's post that I'm responding to but I'm too lazy to get
the name back writes:

  +This happens to me quite often, every day, in normal driving.  Fortunately
  +there has only been one mishap, I hit a tree (the tree survived but the 
  +car didn't).

When I^Ha friend was in traffic school a couple of months ago,
the participants were supposed to pair up and discuss bad
driving habits.  Each person was supposed to reveal one such habit
to the class and pledge not to do it again.  There was this 65 year 
old fellow who admitted that he kept falling asleep while driving 
(any time of day).  But, at one point (about 2 yrs ago), he found 
a device similar in construction and design to a hearing aid which 
would automatically sound a loud beep if your head tilted past a 
certain angle.

He thought it was wonderful and wanted to get a bunch for his
friends (I supposed this helps explain some of the peculiar 
driving styles of older drivers here in Berkeley), but they no 
longer sold them.  Maybe they're still legal in Canada?

Terry "You want my what?" Chan
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From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Subject: Re: POSH
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:55:29 GMT

In article <721161644.AA07843@csource.oz.au> Terry.Smith@f870.n800.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Smith) writes:
> ES> What about POSH?  I hear it's an acronym, too.
>	Port out, Starboard home dear chap, so we always have the sunny side
>when visiting the colonies.
>Terry.
>(What's the suprise?)
>

Actually, I thought the goal was to have the shady side both ways.

Now, if I could just find out where to find those dictionaries that
don't contain the word "gullible".   I understand there is a woman at
Amherst, sometime contributor to this newsgroup, who is an expert on
such things.  Maybe she will see this and get in touch with me.


	- Where *are* these dictionaries??? -

		Me, paraphrasing Garret Morris...

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From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Ex-presidents
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:13:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.211022.11957@ulysses.att.com>, tom@ulysses.att.com (Tom Smith) writes...
>In article <jberger.35.0@novell.com> jberger@novell.com (John Berger) writes:
> 
>>However, does anyone know when we hav had this many living ex-VICE-
>>presidents?  We have:  Nixon, Ford, Mondale, Bush, & Quayle. 
> 
>How about Rockefeller? 

Not only is he dead, he managed to get into the a.f.u. FAQ in the process.

-Mike
From: flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:37:06 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

Hellow, 

I've been following this group for a few days, and have decided to have
one of my students do a speech for competition on urban ledgends.  We
have been able to find several volumes of the ledgends themselves, but
no other information, like, how they start, why they start, the social
significance of the event, etc.....are there any good books or articles
that discuss these issues.....thanks in advance for the help!!

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From: catstyle@cathouse.aiss.uiuc.edu (Jason R. Heimbaugh)
Subject: Re: Info needed on Spanish Fly !!!!!
Reply-To: jrh@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:06:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.081132.29596@linkoping.trab.se> ath@linkoping.trab.se  
(Anders Thulin) writes:
> Actually, chickpeas or oysters are just as good, and not quite as
> dangerous.
> Spanish fly irritates the stomach lining - overdosage can be
> dangerous.  No such problems with oysters.

There definitely is a risk to eating raw oysters.
--
Jason R. Heimbaugh (CatStyle)
jrh@uiuc.edu
"Shuck me, Suck me, Eat me raw."
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: WW11 over, News at eleven (was forpost-WWll Japanese..)
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:18:15 GMT

In article <HERMIT.92Nov11023403@am.ucsc.edu> hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) writes:

>)>>No one even told me it had started.  What happened to the wars 3 to 10?
>)>>Did they go the same way as VO[1-4], varieties 1-56, [1-6]UP etc...
>[deletia]
>) While, you're at it, see if you can bring back the first four Henry
>) movies, and the first nine Malcolm movies.
>
>What I would like to know is whatever hapened to the people who tested
>Preparations A through G?
>
>Bill "Preparation C was probably for Courgette" Ward

What about the people who used lighter elements than Gold Bond Powder?

cj "Hydrogen Bond Powder 'R us" l
From: rxh6@po.CWRU.Edu (Randall Holt)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Neanderthalese (Was Re: Man stuck in ice has no penis. Film at 11.)
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:32:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


>And then there's the Niven-based story in "The Man-Kzin Wars" by some
>author(s?) whose name I don't know...
>
>According to that story Neanderthals were a very peaceful group, who
>communicated psycically, and our ancestors were violent and warlike...
 
>Bill "I can read your mind" Ward.
 
Dean Ing (a.k.a. Ng) wrote it, parts of which were in M-K I and M-K II.
 
Randy 'But can you read my lips ?' Holt
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From: C.K.Black@massey.ac.nz (C.K. Black)
Subject: Re: forpost-WWll Japanese soldiers
Summary: we lost???
Keywords: it ain't over 'til the fat lady sings
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 20:47:09 GMT

G'day,
   In Message-ID: <9NOV199213341059@csa3.lbl.gov>,  jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov ,
Joe Chew writes....

(stuff deleted..missing Japanese soldier thread)

> These stories usually come out of the Philippines, a truly lush and
> labyrinthine tropical archipelago.  

We have to blame General Doug MacArthur for the plight of these missing
Japanese and starting this non-UL.  His 'island hopping' strategy in the
Pacific was to take certain islands only and leave the rest to 'wither on
the vine'.  He left isolated and cut off Japanese from one end of the
ocean to the other,  but hey, you're right Joe, better the Philippines than
on a cartoon coral island with one palm tree.

> What's harder to imagine is a psychologically normal person
> going underground like that for 20-30 years without figuring
> out that, duuh, it's been a long time since he's seen or heard
> from his buddies or otherwise gotten evidence that there's still
> a war on.  I rather suspect that these guys had a screw loose,
> if not completely missing, from the ourset.
 
I'll grant that alot of them probably were a few shrimps short of a
barbie,  but I must stick up for our hero,  Hiroo Onoda.  He figured
the war must be still on because the Philippinos were still shooting
at him !  It was a bit of a partisan turkey shoot once the tables
were turned near the end of the war,  and poor ol' Hiroo was the
turkey.  Gen. Marcos and the boys were all smiles and friendly for
the Japanese TV cameras when Hiroo surrendered in 1974.  It was
quietly sweep under the table that the last man with Hiroo all those
years was shot in 1972.  

Conrad ' if I quit the Trilat. Comm. can I join AFU?' Black
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Email... C.K.Black@massey.ac.nz
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From: neil@robots.ox.ac.uk (Neil Townsend)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: ATM fraud
Keywords: n
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:10:36 GMT
Organization: None evident here.
Originator: neil@cato.robots

Perry Clarke writes:

>I think that we might find that different countries have different systems.

Makes sense.

>My experiences in the UK and the US would lead me to believe that the PIN is
>stored on the card in the UK and in the host computer in the US (it is used
>to certify the transaction).  
>
>Proof of this is in the way that invalid PINs at foreign ATMs are dealt
>with.  In the US I have to get all the way to end of the session (entering
>PIN, amount of money, etc) before it reports that my PIN was invalid, in the
>UK the report is given as soon as the bad PIN is entered.

Although some machines in England follow this procedure, I know of
several which follow the procedure you define as american here in
Oxford. In fact, I can't remember using a Lloyds machine which
followed what you define as the UK procedure.

Neil `PIN? but what does the I stand for'
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From: ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei)
Subject: Re: forpost-WWII Japanese soldiers
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:25:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.004934.1622@nezsdc.icl.co.nz> derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>In article <6NOV199220034152@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov> dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes) writes:
>>In article <49392@shamash.cdc.com>, 
>>dternes@duke.cdc.com (David Ternes) writes...

>>>I've always assumed that the stories of Japanese soldiers thinking that
>>>WWII was still going on long after it was over were part folklore.  You
>>>know the ones where they are hiding out in caves on Guam continuing some
>>>form of guerilla warfare 20 years after the war was over.

>>>What's the basis for these stories?

>>Soliders hiding out in caves 20 years after the war was over.
>> - snopes

>A Solider being a fat soldier - I assume.

>Derek "it must be nearly 20 years since the last one was found" Tearne

     As snopes points out, this really happened a few times. I can
remember reading a book one wrote after he surrendered in 1953.

     The last one I heard of was sometime in the last 10 years or so -
they had to dig his CO (who was in his 80's) out of retirement to get
him to agree to come out of the jungle.

     It's theoretically possible that there are some left - they'd be
in their 60's at the youngest.

							Peter Trei
From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov (Rick Colombo - Fermilab)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Soldiers breaking step across bridge
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:30:15 GMT
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division
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In article <1992Nov12.222053.23889@u.washington.edu>, starfish@stein.u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky) writes:
> Now my Calculus textbook is getting into the urban legends...this from
> Boyce and DiPrima's _Elementary Differential Equations and Boundary Value
> Problems_, Fifth Edition.
> 
> It talks about resonance occurring when "the frequency of the forcing function
> is the same as the natural frequency of the system" (no, I don't know what
> this means yet, we just started the chapter).  Then, the juicy stuff:  "For
> example, soldiers traditionally break step when crossing a bridge to eliminate
> the _periodic_ force of their marching that could resonate a natural frequency
> of the bridge."  (Their emphasis.)
> 
> So, anyone wanna help me with my homework?
> 

Of course it's true, anyone from the State of Washington should know this.
That's what caused the Tacoma Narrow's bridge to collapse in Nov. of 1940.

A hotel (in Texas?) had some sorta christmas party and people dancing on
an overhead walkway caused it to collapse, due to resonance, not weight.


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From: johnb@sage.cc.purdue.edu (John Brainerd)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:43:21 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


   OK, while you are on the subject, can I ask a few serious 
questions about ATM's.  (Have to do a report on them and then
write code for a simulation for my C class)

    1.  The ATM credits your account immediately when you 
        withdrawl, how long does it take for the money to
        become available for you to withdrawl it?

    2.  Is there a maximum amount that you can withdrawl?
        Is there a maximum total amount that you can withdrawl
        over a given time peroid? (1 day, 1 week etc. ??)
   
    THANK YOU for you time.   I hope this doesn't offend too many people
asking serios stuff in this group.  

      Mail responses to: johnb@sage.cc.purdue.edu 

ALSO, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE A GIF, JPEG or SOME PICTURE OF AN ATM
CAN BE FOUND????         Thanx!
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