From: mkelly@sophocles.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The LNH -- think a moment before you scowl
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:15:00 GMT
Reply-To: mkelly@sophocles.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


 aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:

|> First off, think about this little tidbit:  out of the last 12 posts received
|> 	here, FOUR have been about your little arguement.  No LNH posts --
|> 	just your griping.

I have no idea which camp this grenade was being launched at, but I'll consider
myself a civilian bystander for the moment who caught a few fragments. An 
observation about the LNH topic....it is starting to smell suspiciously like
the time before an RFD.....

|> And now my main point: is rec.arts.comics.MISC supposed to be a private
|> 	little club where only certain comics belong?

The charter of RAC.MISC, as it was voted on and approved was to provide
a catchall newsgroup for topics not specifically covered in the rac hierarchy.

|>  Already an X-Men fan can't post on racm without
|> getting flamed to within an inch of his life -- because "that kind of
|> discussion isn't welcome here!"  In a misc group, ANY kind of discussion is
|> welcome -- like it or not!  You don't read mutant titles, hit "n".  You
|> don't like the LNH, do the same.

I don't want to restart *this* arguement, but this was settled in the rac
reorganization vote earlier this year. X-men fans can post in the MISC group,
but articles about the X-men belong in the xbooks group.

|> The LNH is, in it's own right, a comic book.  It has no pictures (usually),
|> but a comic-style storyline using comic-style characters.  It is a comic book.
|> Rec.arts.comics.misc is devoted to the discussion of any and all comics --
|> WITHOUT exception. By definition, the LNH, as a comic books, belongs on
|> racm just as much as any other title...  INCLUDING the Marvel Mutant titles.

Repeating this doesn't make it true. It is the charter of the group, not the
title, that all news readers are asked to follow. All of us. Those of us who
voted against the reorg, those who voted for it, and all who come after us.

The LNH posts seem to me to be much more along the lines of fan-fiction, just
like Suicide Squid, the Legion of Supper Heroes, Kid Dynamo, etc. It may be that
there is finally enough support for a rac.creative. I've completely forgotten if
this was part of the reorg that failed, or if it was even brought up. If it was
a failed part of the reorg, we have to wait six months before another RFD and
CFV.

I hope that those of us who enjoy the creative efforts of RACers don't look
at the rac.* (where * != misc) as "ghettos" where the undesirables are sent.
This attitude is what kept rec.arts.tv.quantum-leap from being formed for
so long (has this ever been passed?). I and others have clamored for a
rac.creative for a while, and it would be nice to have a rec group for
those who don't get the alt groups.

I'll just snuggle up to the campfire and watch the fire roar now.

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@doc.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                    + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
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