From: nyarko@ee.ualberta.ca (David Nyarko)
Subject: Re: Faith in the Word (was: Drinking & christian living)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:35:15 GMT

spk@uk.ac.aber (Stephen Kingston) writes:

>nyarko@ee.ualberta.ca (David Nyarko) wrote:
>> 
>> This is not absolutely correct, our knowledge depends on our knowledge.
>> For example if I do not know that the Word says by the stripes of Jesus I
>> was healed ? i would always pray that if it be the will of God, I should
>> be healed. Instead of being able to stand on the Word of God and say 
>> "Father your Word says by the stripes of your Son Jesus Christ I have been
>> healed and as you watch over your Word to perform it, by faith I beleive
>> and have my healing" or words to that effect.



>Does this really work for you? 

It has worked for me a number of times (but not always instantaneously)
and some people I've prayed for. In some instances it seems to work
quicker for others I've prayed for than for me. I have a lot more for
what you have to say below. Heb 11 talks well about faith. I have
a bit on that in another posted response.
I've realised the power in relying on the Holy Spirit to reveal what
to pray for especially after being involved in a deliverance work.
A recent testimony regards a woman who has been having to take doses
of insulin or so (for diabetes). She takes fast acting and slow-acting
doses of her medication. She has been prayed for for a long time with
no improvement. She said the youth pastor once said to her that
probably what was holding back her healing could be that someone had
spoken words over her (cursed her or a generation curse). She said she
thought nothing of it, but one Sunday morning during church service, she
felt the Holy Spirit asking her to go forward during the evening service,
and the Holy Spirit brought back thoughts from her childhood were she
remembered that she had a quarrel with a child and the child cursed her
saying she would have a terrible sickness. Because this serious diabetic
condition occured later in life, she could not relate it to that
incident. And it seemed odd to her how this could affect her. To cut
a long story short, that same night during the service, the Pastor
preached on curses and how any believer has the authority to have
them broken through the work of Jesus Christ at the cross. She
went forward, was prayed for, and since then, she has stopped using
the fast -acting medication (this was like a quick-boost), much to
the shock of her doctor who thought she would die if she went of it.


[..........]

>By the way, which church do you go to in Edmonton? My grandfather 
>used to be the pastor of a pentecostal church there sometime before
>the war.

>All the best,
>  Stephen.

I attend the Victory Christian centre. It's been in existence for about
9 years.
Regarding Faith for healing and why we get our healing and sometimes not,
there are a lot of questions to which I do not have an answer. However,
if I put it in the general context of God's provision (promises) for us,
I would say there is a 2 way affair which involves a committment on our
part too. Sometimes it could be an area in our life that is causing God's
provision not to be manifest (short of his miraculous intervention). My
believe is that lack of faith is not the only issue involved here as
some people have tried to explain. For example Paul said he had a thorn
in the flesh (some people have said it was a sickness and others that it
was not). However we know that he prayed 3 times which tells me that 
whatever it was, he would not have prayed if he knew it was not God's
provision for him. We note that God DID ANSWER as to why this thorn
would be with him (2 Corinth 12: 7-10). In James 5:14-16, we see
physical sickness being talked about a unique thing here is that
this physical healing mentioned here also mentions the forgiveness
of sins too.
Sorry that sometimes my thoughts don't seem to run coherently. I
have to get this off fast that's why. The story of Achan's sin
is one that explains why something could prevent God's desire
from being manifest because God is just. Achan's sin (Joshua 7)
by taking that accursed thing prevented Israel from defeating
their enemies (Josh. 7: 13). Could you please explain the
difference between "claiming" and "pleading" the promises ?
I have heard a number of people say a lot of things regarding
faith especially regarding healing. I believe that if I have
a sickness and someone askes me, I will say for example I
have this swelling but I'm believing God for my healing, according
to his word, or join me in praying for it (James 5: 14-16). Or
God'd word says I have been healed so I believe it will be 
manifest now or soon or whenever or words to that effect.
I stand corrected, but I believe not all the healings of
Jesus Christ were instantaneous for example the case of the
10 lepers in Luke 17:12-19. The lepers were healed as they
were going. 
But healing now or not, we still have to fight the good fight
the new testament mentions.
That's the fight of Faith (1 Tim 6: 12).

		All the best,
		David

>All the best,
>  Stephen.



>-- 
>Gweleis i rac neb nym gweles pop annwyl. ef diwyl yneges. Gweleis i pasc.
>(I saw the one above all men,  he saw me;  he, the beloved of his people,
>who fulfills his mission. I saw Easter.) "Yspeil Taliesin" ---Taliesin---
>spk@uk.ac.aber --- spk%uk.ac.aber@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk --- Stephen Kingston
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