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From: rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: black dog omen?
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:52:28 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

Hi!

This might not be the exact right place to post this query,
but it's about the closest newsgroup type I could find.

I would like to have the signifigance of a certain omen
explained. The thing is, the omen does not occur during sleep,
but is the real recurrent appearance of black dogs.

I saw my first ones, a pair, first thing New Years morning--a
hauruspicious (sp) sign in itself--and have since had two or
three sudden, unpredictable encounters with black dogs.

The dogs have been very fine specimens and ever so friendly :-);
that's not what I'm talking about. What I want to know is what
is the omen, or "sign" quality of black dogs? Do they have one?
A riderless horse, seen in a dream, for instance, is a sign of
death. That's why I hope you dream discussers can help me out.



Thanks alot, all. Reply post or e-mail.

--danny
-- 
	"Were his solid black square paintings really,
	as the artist claimed, simply neutral, abstract
	compositions devoid of external references and
	meanings?" ***********************************
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: kapitan@cs.uwp.edu (Andrea Kapitan)
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Summary: why not? 
Keywords: creativity
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:34:04 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.220840.3716@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> ...@cs.utexas.edu:ibmaus!auschs!elman.austin.ibm.com!lkoh writes:
>
>> Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
>> Date: Thu, 9 Apr 199> 
>> I've read writing in a dream once. It was a whole sentence. When I woke
>> up I could remember only one or two words though, instead of the whole
>> sentence. Sometimes one word has been significant and I've seen it written
>> on a chalkboard and rembered it; other times I got it scrambled trying to
>> remember it later.
>> 
>> I think anything is possible in dreams, just like in life, even more so.
>> -andrea
>> kapitan@cs.uwp.edu
>
>
>I seem to always be very creative in my dreams, whereas I am not in 
>reality....for instance, i recall choreagraphing dance combinations,
>writing songs, and designing clothes, all of which would
>be much more difficult to do in real life, although not impossible....
>they are simply easier in my dreams.
>
>and i feel pretty sure that *I* am creating these things, and that they
>are not just things that i may have glimpsed or heard that day and
>don't remember.
>
>if i create all these things in my dreams,  then would somebody
>explain why i don't in real life??

Things are easier in dreams. Do you have a great desire to do these things
in real life? What is it that you do now in real life. Maybe you should try
some of these things that you dream about in real life.

-andrea

-- 
kapitan@cs.uwp.edu

If only GOD would give me some clear sign! Like making a large deposit
in my name at a Swiss bank...
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From: lorne.murphy@rose.uucp (lorne murphy)
Subject: Wierd Dream
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:46:49 GMT
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Date Entered: 04-08-92 13:52
How about this one for ridiculous:

I'm on a bus (A tour bus, I think)... we're going down a busy street, when
we get hi-jacked! I'm not in the least bit worried, and hence pull out some
chewing tobacco. We all start chewing it, and it has a distinct flavour, yet
very sweet... how strange! And it also was very large, soft and doughy!!!!

What in god's name does THIS mean?

LM
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From: IO10081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (The Xanadian)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: What a Stupid Dream
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:15:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92099.101537IO10081
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <1992Apr4.041013.28415@cs.mcgill.ca>, jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald
(Jerry) KUCH) says:
>
>Part I:  I was sitting in a chair in what seemed to be a cafeteria.  In
>         front of me, standing on the table was this creature about two
>         feet tall whose body appeared to be made up of a powdered sugar
>         coated, giant jelly donut.  It had somewhat repulsive doughy limbs.

*grin*   You've been watching too much "Wayne's World".  :)  <notes the scene
with Garth and 'Donut Man'>
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Weird Dream (Re: Astral Projection)
From: hcollings@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:17:24 CST
Organization: University of Missouri-Kansas City

In article <1992Mar27.005933.5983@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS) writes:
> hcollings@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
> 
>>I am curious about the ringing you had in your ears.  I too had a recurring
>>dream in which the ringing was even paralyzing to me. I felt that if I didn't
>>move I would die.  I would struggle against these deafening sounds to wake
>>myself.  There was no visual aspect to this particular dream.  Once I decided
>>to relax and see where this dream would lead.  I was really scared but I fought
>>the urge to try and wake myself.  After sometime of the loud noise I felt as if
>>I were being drawn into something or to somewhere.  Then the sounds became
>>voices that kept repeating "dont stop".  Sometimes in a distant whisper and
>>other times right in my ear.  I also awoke tired and I was sweating profusely.
>>I haven't had this dream in a while, but it used to happen with some
>>regularity.  I have been told that it is everything from my dead Grandmother
>>trying to reach me to a dream having to do with my service in Viet Nam.  The
>>dream started a few years after my Grandmother died.  If you or any of the
>>other posters have comments, I welcome them.
> 
>   I had a dream similar to this a few months ago.  I associated it with sleep
> paralysis.  Instead of ringing I felt roaring and a voice that caused intense
> painful pressure changes in my ears as though underwater.  It had no visual   
> quality and was extremely frightening.
> 
> **************************************************************************
> Would you mind if we balanced this glass of milk where your visiting friend
> accidentally was killed? Would it be OK with you if we wrote a reminder of 
> things we'll forget to do today otherwise with this green magic marker, if  
> it's all right, on the back of your head? --TMBG
>   ******** Tony Pulokas ****** U of Illinois / Urbana-Champaign *********#



It is true that the noise at times becomes more of a roar than a ringing
sensation.  I have even involved my wife in this by telling her that I could
feel the dream coming on and that if I made any weird noises or noise at all
that she could hear to please wake me up.  This has worked on occasion.  She
has asked how I know that the dream is coming but I'm not sure how to answer
that.  Somehow I just know.  Also another poster has speculated that the
ringing may be exposure to some loud sounds.  I have  thought of this since I
have played in bands for most of my life.  However the dream is random and it
has been a few years since I have played regularly and still the noise is
there.  It comes at times when I would not have been around loud noise for
weeks sometimes.  You are right about how frightening the dream is.  I feel
that if I can't wake up I will surely die.  The paralysis is real, it is
impossible to move even a finger.
From: heard@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: The word "Gnoscha" (Was re: Writing in dreams)
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:35:05 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

Nausicaa wrote about the word Gnoscha, which she had 
seen in a dream. I replied (in part)
 
R> Hi Nausicaa 
R> 
R> Firstly, the word Gnoscha seems to me full of
R> possibilities. It seems to have echos of your name (it
R> has the N, S, C, and A); of the word "Gnostic"; of the
R> word "Nosh" (or is that an Australianism?); and for
R> some reason it reminds me of Grushenka, the character
R> in "The Brothers Karamazov". How do these suggestions
R> fit? 
R> 

Nausicaa replied 

N> Well about the echoes of my own name...It truly does not echo my own, for 
N> Nausicaa is merely a psuedonym...Illyanna Kari is my true name....I'm not 
N> sure though about what else you had mentioned...I had felt somehow that I 
N> was slavic transliterated..at least that was what I got from it...I'm not 
N> sure it's correct..
 . . .

N> Thank you for your suggestions...they make me think more...I was not quite 
N> certain of all your allusions and their meanings, however...perhaps you 
N> could explain more...
N> And thanks as well to the one who suggested Reed and the book by Jung..
N>  
N> Nausicaa
 
Hi again Nausicaa,
                  In my suggestions about the meaning 
of the word "Gnoscha", I was mainly giving examples:
showing how I would go about looking for meanings in a 
word which appeared in a dream. Perhaps you can try 
expanding on them further.

However, to explain the suggestions more:

1. Gnoscha = Nausicaa = you

I think this still applies even if Nausicaa is a
pseudonym, rather than your own name. A name you have
chosen for yourself is perhaps even more part of you
than name someone else gave you. You might like to
think about why you choose "Nausicaa" -- admiration for
the character from the Odyssey? If so, what about her? 

2. Gnoscha = Gnostic

The Gnostics were a sect who believed it was possible
to gain access to revealed spiritual knowledge. Some of
the early members of the church were Christian
Gnostics, and many of these were condemned as heretics.
Dreams can be a path revealing knowledge (though I
would say it was self knowledge), so the word seems
to have appropriate references to the dream state. 

3. Gnoscha = Nosh

Nosh is slang for luxurious food, food to be enjoyed. I 
thought here there was some echo of spiritual food.

3. Gnoscha = Grushenka.

On further thought it seems more like a cross between
two characters from Karamazov: Grushenka and Alyosha.
Grushenka was a very strong and self-willed character
-- her love was persued by both Dmitri and his father,
and so she was the cause of the main tensions in the
book. Alyosha was the most formally religious of the
brothers, spiritual, genuinely good and genuinely loved.
Perhaps I was picking up on the Slavic sound too. 

I hope this helps

Take care
Ronno
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From: kapitan@cs.uwp.edu (Andrea Kapitan)
Subject: Re: Madonna
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:28:29 GMT

>First, a minor disclaimer.  THIS IS NOT A FLAME!  It's just that having read it
>> trying to convince Madonna not to eat FSA food. Can someone please tell me
>> what this means. Whenever I ask my psychology major roommate he says it's 
>Honestly?  And promise to direct all flames to alt.null?  I don't think it
>means a damn thing.  In fact, I think that lots of people frequently try to
>
>Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that dreams can't be the source of wonderful
>insights or possibly - feel free to laugh - mystic revelations.  Just don't
>expect them to come jumping out at you from all sides. 

This isn't a flame either unless you want one; it's whatever you want.
Even dreams that result from spicy pizza can have meanings.
It's up to individual to decide whether their dreams have meaning or not, not
for you. 
I think most dreams have meaning; I think everything has meaning, even you and
your pretend flame. What was your latest MEANINGFUL dream?
> 
>At the risk of making this post read like a flame (it isn't), I'm not
>impressed.  If you were as liberal as all that, it wouldn't have been that 
>big a deal to you.
>
I don't think people post their dreams to impress the masses; then again I
could be wrong; but I'm usually not (ha!).
>
>					Your humble servant,
>			who feels just a trifle "holier than thou" tonight,
			here is where the whole problem lies......
>					    Smiling Wolf
>
>sleibowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu
>sister moon will be my guide

maybe your "Smiling Wolf" signature is here to impress us?
-andrea

-- 
kapitan@cs.uwp.edu
From: parryh@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Howell Parry)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: CHEESE!!!
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:52:46 GMT


I keep having a recurring dream that I'm a huge lump of cheese and this big
black mouse with HUGE FANGS keeps biting into me.......

 What does this mean?

 Can anyone help me?

-- 
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! Howell Parry. 2nd yr Comp Sci & Maths, Manchester Uni, Uk       !
! E-mail:    parryh@uk.ac.man.cs.p4                               !
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Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: icsg0039@cs.montana.edu (Charles)
Subject: Re: Dreams & Predictions
Organization: Montana State University, Dept. of Computer Science, Bozeman MT 59717
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:36:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.122226.12523@ms.uky.edu> justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan) writes:
>Poontang writes
>  
>> And after all this, I decided to place this dream in the "current 
>> events" category. And why?
>> Because I have an overabundance of empathy for my fellow man. I'm 
>> feeling the extreme pressure of poverty, and I know others are as 
>> well. There are quite a few reasons this dream is "current" to me.
>
>Poverty? You too, eh? This University is trying to starve me to death.. :)
>  
>> Anyhow, I think understanding one's own dreams must come with 
>> understanding one's own self.
>
>Very good.. :) Why do you think everyone comes around and says: "What does this  
>dream mean?" They don't understand themselves at all. If they did, they would  
>KNOW what their dreams meant.

This is true to a certain extent, provided that dreams actually mean something
and aren't just subconscious expression of imagination.  I won't say either way.
I completely agree, however, that a person definitely needs to understand 
themselves, or at least be comfortable with, and know, who they are.

>
>--
>*******************************************************************************
>* "Imagine sky.. High above, in Caribbean Blue.." <sigh>                      *
>* The University of Kentucky doesn't pay well enough to share my opinions.    *
>*******************************************************************************


-- 
    ---=>   Charles Stewart (aka Scott) : icsg0039@cs.montana.edu   <=---
         "The wizard wore a silver rainbow for his cloak."  - a dream.
 "The diameter in whole style means the shortest diameter measured transversely
 to the longitudinal axis at the greatest circumference of the pickle." -USDA
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: sleibowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu (Smiling Wolf)
Subject: Re: Madonna
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 02:06:06 GMT

First, a minor disclaimer.  THIS IS NOT A FLAME!  It's just that having read it
over, I realized that I'm just testy enough for it to be interpreted as such. 
I sincerely hope that no one takes offense at anything I say.

>   Last night I had a dream that Madonna was in my room with me and my roommates
> I had her autograph a True Blue album I just bought. I don't remember exactly 
> what it said, but I remember reading the actual words in the dream. All I
> remember about the signature was she referred to me as God in it. I turned to
> my roommate and said,"I told you I would meet Madonna some day." Which I have 
> said, and do believe, repeatedly to them in real life. Anyway the only other 
> part of this dream that I remember is that we spent the entire rest of the dream
> trying to convince Madonna not to eat FSA food. Can someone please tell me
> what this means. Whenever I ask my psychology major roommate he says it's 
> about sex, which it usually and may be true, but I would like more of
> an explanation than that.

Honestly?  And promise to direct all flames to alt.null?  I don't think it
means a damn thing.  In fact, I think that lots of people frequently try to
attach a deep and mystical meaning to something that might have been brought on
by eating something spicy right before bed.  I think that if it means anything,
then it actually _is_ about your sex drive, or you telling everyone about how
you're going to meet Madonna, or possibly both.  

Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that dreams can't be the source of wonderful
insights or possibly - feel free to laugh - mystic revelations.  Just don't
expect them to come jumping out at you from all sides. 
 
> 				Lance the more Liberal than you'll ever be
> 				(I even went on a triple date last night,
> 				and one of the couples was a bisexual friend
> 				of mine and his boyfriend, in public)

At the risk of making this post read like a flame (it isn't), I'm not
impressed.  If you were as liberal as all that, it wouldn't have been that 
big a deal to you.


					Your humble servant,
			who feels just a trifle "holier than thou" tonight,
					    Smiling Wolf

sleibowitz@hamp.hampshire.edu
sister moon will be my guide
From: mayor@ic10.umeeng (Cam "You didn't see me!" Mayor)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: IS IS WRITTEN...
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:49:16 GMT
Reply-To: mayor@ic10.umeeng
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article 23078@zooid.guild.org, gecko@zooid.guild.org (GECKO) writes:
>
>
>        Ah, yes.  Once I did this in a dream to see if it was a
>dream or not.  I read a few lines from a chemistry textbook, glanced
>away briefly, and looked again, and the text had indeed changed,
>thus I knew I was dreaming.
>
  Another note about when I read in dreams (in the past year).  Although
in about half of these dreams I am _not_ lucid, the following idea still sticks, 
effectively preventing me from attaining lucidity from this state.
  Sub-Con-Idea:"yes,yes, of course the writing will change if you read
                the same text over, but since this is a dream the most 
                important part is to READ AS MUCH AS YOU CAN since what
                is written is a DIRECT channel into your subconscious!"
This idea is always present when I'm reading in a dream, lucid or not.

>
>         By the by, does anyone know what dreams of TORNADOES mean?
>I have had many vivid nightmares of tornadoes in the past year.
>
  I'd like to know that, too.  I've had many dreams about tornadoes.

cam
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From: ngervae@next.com (Nik Gervae)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:35:52 GMT

I had a dream several weeks ago where I was simultaneously reading a story and  
observing it from "within".  The book I was reading was in Russian--I know a  
bit about the Cyrillic alphabet, but no Russian at all.  Yet I understood the  
story and felt like I was actually reading sentences etc.  It was pretty cool.
 
--
Nik Gervae
Software Publications
ngervae@next.com
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 14:41:00 EDT
From: <00124961@ysub.ysu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: What a Stupid Dream
 <92099.101537IO10081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>

Maybe someone should stick a straw through *his* forehead <hopeful?>
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
From: r9h@pandanus.cs.ntu.edu.au (Ecto the Green)
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:14:07 +0900
Reply-To: r9h@pandanus.cs.ntu.edu.au (Ecto the Green)
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Science, NTU

I read something in a dream once, but It wasn't something that I wrote, It
was a pamphlet (or flyer) someone was holding in the seat in front of me on
a bus. 

It had a picture of an elm tree overhanging a lake, with its yellow
leaves falling into the lake, making ripples, all basked in the light of a
beautiful sunset.  The inscription wrote :

 ' Do not judge the falling of the leaves by the ripples on the lake. '

I think I can understand an interpretation of this little 'moral' but
if anyone else would like to have a go and send me their interpretation, I 
am more than interested in finding out what you have to say.

Rohan.

r9h@pandanus.ntu.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: icsg0039@cs.montana.edu (Charles)
Subject: Re: Reading in Dreams
Organization: Montana State University, Dept. of Computer Science, Bozeman MT 59717
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:23:18 GMT

In article <8APR199223504870@vax.cc.williams.edu> 92dms@vax.cc.williams.edu (Bat Rastard) writes:
>In article <kdsnlIa00UzxA4GGBM@andrew.cmu.edu>, dh4j+@andrew.cmu.edu (David O Hunt) writes...
>>I've read (somewhere) that it's impossible to read writing in dreams, yet I've
>>been able to.
>> 
>>Any comments...
>> 
>Well, it's not exaclt impossible, but what happens is that the writing changes. 
>If you remember, try reading something during a dream, looking away for a 
>second, and then re-reading it.  More often than not, (possibly always, I'm not 
>really certain on this point), the writing will have changed.  In fact, this is 
>one of the recommended methods of reality-checking during an experience you 
>suspect is a dream.  Every time I've remembered to try it during a dream, the 
>writing HAS changed.

For me, this doesn't always hold true.  I've had many dreams in which writing
remained constant for what seemed like a long period of time.  Looking away,
looking back, going somewhere else and returning, many times the writing has
*not* changed.  This is no fabrication after the event.
I've also found that, for me again, that reality checks can be a waste of time
during a dream.  But, I suppose that all depends on the "reality-consistence"
of the dream.

-- 
    ---=>   Charles Stewart (aka Scott) : icsg0039@cs.montana.edu   <=---
         "The wizard wore a silver rainbow for his cloak."  - a dream.
 "The diameter in whole style means the shortest diameter measured transversely
 to the longitudinal axis at the greatest circumference of the pickle." -USDA
From: smurt@cbmvax.commodore.com (Bill Smurthwaite - CSG)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Attention lucid dreamers, help wanted.
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:47:26 GMT
Reply-To: smurt@cbmvax.UUCP (Bill Smurthwaite - CSG)
Organization: MOS Technology, Valley Forge, PA


  A few months ago a colleague of mine and I started dreaming of the same
things on the same nights.  The first time it happened I dreamt she was
sitting on the back of my motorcycle (we didn't go anywhere).  Later in the
dream I was standing in line to see a movie.  Because my (third party) date
and I were the 10,000th couple in line we won tickets for the movie.  In my
friend's dream, she was standing in line to see a movie and the couple in
front of her won tickets for the movie because they were the 10,000th couple
in line.  Several days later we both dreamt of killer whales that were
confined to small spaces.  And this brings me to the point of this post.
  Since I have not been able to dream lucidly yet (almost though, walking
around that hardware store in my underwear should have tipped me off (yes
Chris, it was a dream)) I would like to enlist the aid of those that do
dream lucidly.  I'm not doing any heavy duty research, just searching for
answers.
  If any interested lucid dreamers would try something for me I'd be
appreciative.  While dreaming (and aware of it) find a friend who is also
dreaming (non-lucidly) and give them something or involve them in some kind
of activity that could be verified.  See if they have any memory of these
encounters and how accurate they are.  If the results correlate at all it
could shed some light on *where* dreams take place.
  If anyone knows of research in this area that's already been done, please
email or post.
  Thanks,
  Bill Smurthwaite

I speak for myself, not CSG or CBM.
From: jperedo@bach.helios.nd.edu (jayme peredo)
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: Dream Control and Sharing
Keywords: Help!
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:26:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr10.002637.2326
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


Help!  Would the very nice person from UC Santa Cruz
who sent me their paper on this topic please re-email
it to me.  I accidentally lost it before I got a chance
to read it.  Thanks!

--jayme
Newsgroups: alt.dreams