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From: kudzu@netcom.com (Michael Sierchio)
Subject: Re: Slow Sits
Organization: True Love, and Home-Grown Tomatoes
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:19:54 GMT

In article <15842@mindlink.bc.ca> 
   Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:

>Does anybody have any advice for improving the speed of my dobie's automatic
>sits?

It is my experience that any physical contact or urging teaches slow sits.

Try the "Three and a freebie" technique (for which you'll need a pinch
collar, which despite its reputation is more humane than a choke collar):

	Issue the command to sit;
	if it is done quickly enough, fine, else:

	The next three times you issue the command, give an automatic
	correction (for the sit, this means pulling *up* on the collar -
	never touch the dog).

	The very next time, issue the command without an automatic
	correction -- otherwise, give a correction and start this process
	over.  If your pooch performs correctly 5 times in a row, quit
	for the day.

	
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From: sharon@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Bichon incontanant(sp?) when in season
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:43:08 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

The above says it all, Beth (Bishon Frise) is around 18 months old, this
is her 3rd season, I have never managed to get her totally house trained
but things were getting better ?? She is coming into season, she is ratty,
(to be expected) and caot wait to go to the toilet, her tummy sees to get
into termoil, she has bad diarreah (sp?) and tiddles all the time, she seems
to do this whenever she is coming into season, does anyone else have this
problem? If so why does it happen? I plan to get her spayed after this
season, perhaps she will be a little happier then.

sharon
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: hckrus01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Arthritis - pain relief?
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:00:57 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <weoNjL200iUzM1HysY@andrew.cmu.edu>, Barbara Carlson <bc1w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> My 10 year old Maltese has very bad arthritis in his legs (he was a
> rescue from a puppy mill and had deformed legs). Is there anything I can
> do to make him more comfortable? His legs give out often and he falls on
> his face. Would some kind of leg support help? He's a sweet dog and it's
> awful to hear him cry when he falls or is stepped upon by my larger dog.
> I'll be taking him to the vet soon, but wondered if there was something
> I could do in the meantime.
> 
> --Barb--
> 
> 


I've had 2 Irish setter who had arthritis, and I have found that giving
Ascriptin (ask your vet what the right dose for a Maltese is) a couple 
times a day helps, as does applying heat (I use a heating pad) to the 
problem area for intervals of about 15 minutes several times a day.

Arthritis in dogs tends to be affected by changes in the weather (it's
worse when it's cold or damp out).  Have you noticed this to be the case
with your dog?  There may be something besides arthritis going on here -
try to get him to the vet as soon as you can.

Good luck!
Holly
From: williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (It always scares me when something looks easy to do.)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Need Info - Husky Seizures\
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:02:09 EST

In article <FV3PRB1w165w@kunikpok.UUCP>, sharon@kunikpok.UUCP (rich) writes:
> As many times as this particular subject has been discussed on
> this newsgroup, I find that my knowledge of what's been said
> before is lacking. I've never encountered this particular problem,
> and I'm hoping that someone can help:
> 
> My 2-year old Siberian Husky has suffered what appears to be
> an epileptic seizure. It's possible that a collapse previously
> attributed to heat exhaustion may also have been a seizure, for
> a total of two in the last 6 months.
> 
> Facts:
> 
> Epilepsy has not been diagnosed in any progeny of this
> line, at least for 4 generations.
> He's in otherwise perfect health--complete blood workup
> shows everything normal.
> Unless somebody threw something over the fence, and
> he ingested it, he was not exposed to any poison, including
> flea/tick extermination, household chemicals, and poisonous
> toads (which abound in this area.)
> All seizure symptoms were "classic" epilepsy symptoms.

 My golden had this happen to him when he
was just over a year old - 2 times.  Each time, he lost the use of one
of his back legs.  The vet said that it is not uncommon for growing dogs to
experience such things.  Many dogs have seizures that never occur more than
once or twice, and can never be explained.

We also had a complete analysis of his blood chemicals done including thyroid.
It cost about $100, but it was well worth the money to find out those things
were normal.  

Kim Williams
Kudos Kennels
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Help with neighbor!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:47:23 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Jeff Seale writes about problems with his strange neighbor:

I guess you've started looking for a new place? One thing you could do would
be to ask permission from your landlord to build a new fence at your expense
or possibly at a shared cost. This is only a good option if you plan on
staying there a fairly long time though. Also, if your landlord is
reasonable, I would write or speak to him about the problems with the
neighbors NOW, before anything else happens. Don't do it in a nasty way, just
express to the landlord that you are concerned and why, and if your neighbor
does end up going to him later the landlord might be able to take what he
says with a grain of salt and be more sympathetic with your point of view.

There probably isn't anything wrong with your outdoor arrangement, BUT I am a
firm believer that unless I have a really secure outdoor kennel or privacy
fencing, the place for the dog when I am not home is always indoors. When I
say secure I mean that nobody can harm, tease or free the dog while I am out,
at least not without a great deal of effort. This also prevents the chance of
somebody being bitten while you are out...what if those kids decide to climb
the fence next and then claim the dogs attacked them? If you can't let your
dogs loose in the house, you may have to crate them indoors, but at least you
will know they are safe.

Good luck...


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From: rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Pet Population Legislation
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:26:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23815
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



Jon Krueger writes:
>The pound impounds dogs.  Unlike the shelter, it doesn't do education,
>doesn't go into the schools, doesn't provide vaccination clinics,
>doesn't investigate animal cruelty cases, doesn't get weekly columns
>into the newspapers, doesn't promote public awareness of pet issues,
>doesn't organize or promote dog training, doesn't organize or hold low
>cost spay/neuter services, and doesn't have mandate or funding for pet
>adoption.  The shelter does all that and more.  The humane society may
>or may not have a shelter.  The humane society, unlike the pound, is
>privately funded.  If the humane society has a shelter, it's usually
>restricted from taking in strays.

Yes, I almost forgot the public awareness enhancement on pet issues,
I believe the pit bull crisis was their work, not to mention proposed
guidelines for vicious dog legislation.

Trainers and the humane society are usually on opposite sides
on any dog issue.  People who know the dogs, and people who don't.

The trainers know about the dog's happiness.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: thuyan@ravel.udel.edu (Thuy-An Hartman)
Subject: Stupid Dog-conclusion
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:34:59 GMT


THANK YOU!  THANK YOU!  THANK YOU!  (to all the husky owners
who let me know I am not alone)

You would not believe how many people told me that my dog was bad and
needed obedience school (even though she already had it) or that she
thought she was Alpha (I think my husband makes it quite clear to her
who Alpha is!).  

I'm glad to know she is not the only husky with an attitude!!

Thuy-An
From: gbelli@opal.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Please tell me my dog is not stupid
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:20:50 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1a9q57INN970@rodan.UU.NET>, lorelei@rodan.UU.NET (Lorelei Horner) writes:
> |I have a siberian husky.  My roommates are convinced she is retarded
> |because she does not always come when told or sit when told.  I think
> |she is just very independent.  So who is right?
> |
> |Thuy-An
> |
> 
> I have the same dog...do we share?? I am convinced that Sasha is not
> stupid, just TOO smart for her own good. I have had huskies in the
> past and it was my experience that until they are about five or six
> years old, they will do what you ask when they want to or ONLY if
> they feel dominated........
> 
> Wouldn't trade her though!!
> 
> Lorelei Horner                   UUNET Operator
> lorelei@uunet.uu.net		 uunet!lorelei
And she's probably too stubborn to come when called, too, if she's 
anything like my beagle.  He simply considers what he wants to do to
be much more important than what I want.  Aggravating, to say the least.
Gretchen
From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: German Pinschers
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:26:50 GMT
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Distribution: world
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

In article <317@mindlink.bc.ca> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
writes:
>About 3 years ago, at a show, I saw my first German
>Pinscher...
>Does anybody have more info on the GP? Specifically:
>1. Temperament, is it much like a dobie or is it less of a mini-dobie than it
>   looks?
>2. What is the height/weight for males and females?
>3. What is happening with the breed? Are they AKC/CKC recognized? Are there
>   any being shown? Why haven't they become more popular?
>4. Physically, are they as well put together as a dobie? As streamlined and
>   beautiful?

Here is a brief description/history of the breed:
"Often mistaken for a young Doberman becasue of the close physical
resemblance, the German Pinscheris rare in the US and Canada. Although the
breed wa accepted for registration in 1879 in Germany, it was never very
numerous  and in the 1950's faced extinction. A concerted effort was made to
save the breed, asnd today its numbers are increasing steadily in Europe &
elsewhere. Sleek, muscular and elegant, the German Pinscher was orgonally bred
to protect the home and kill vermin. It stands 17-20" at the shoulder, and its
close-fitting short coat comes in black and tan as well as shades of brown
ranging from chocolate to stag red. Little grooming is required, but daily
exercise is a must. The Pinscher is intelligent, loyal, sensitive, courageous
and devoted to its family; but is wary of strangers. More suited to life in
the house than in a kennel, the breed enjoys contact with its owners.
Obedience training at a young age is highly recommend to develop a Pinscher in
to a wonderful pet."

The only breeder I know of is in Southern California:
Dianna Jones, Blazers German Pinschers, 782 West Ave L, Calimesa CA 92320.
714/795-1162.

Good luck...........
Marget Johnson, Windwagon Newfoundlands
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From: U30993@uicvm.uic.edu (Kimberly Laird)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Shutterbugs
Date: 4 Oct 92 16:49:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92278.114909U30993
 <1992Sep11.115203.8840@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> <23996@sybase.sybase.com>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

Try whistling to the dog, singing, playing with a squeaky
toy, putting a doggie bone on your head or a favorite
toy (this assumes he/she knows stay) or even play retrieve
so that you can snap him coming back to you with a
happy expression.

And yes, I've done all of the above.....  the things
we do....
%-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-%=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-%
Kimberly J. Laird
 *East Tennessee State University
   *BITNET:U30993@UICVM//INTERNET:U30993@UICVM.UIC.EDU
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E-mail address is for Univ. of Illinois..... new ID appearing
soon...
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: fritzz@bud.megatek.uucp (Friedrich Knauss)
Subject: Re: Please tell me my dog is not stupid
Reply-To: megatek!fritzz@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:38:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.123753.1027@linus.mitre.org> bds@mbunix.mitre.org (Smith) writes:
>I'm curious about this.  It seems that many (most?) dogs, not just
>Huskies, act like this, including mine.  I wonder if any dog trainers
>would comment on whether these are examples of poorly or partially
>trained dogs (do your dogs act like this?),

My dog does not act like this. When I give her a formal command,
she knows that it means _do it_, _NOW_. I also have varieties of
informal commands such as "com'eer": come by and check in with me
sometime pretty soon. Comes in handy if she's strayed to far for
my comfort during an off lead walk in the hills or if I want to
pet or groom her. Likewise, "hang around" is a loose version of
heel, she can roam some and sniff inanimate objects but not other
dogs or people.

It is important that your dog knows _exactly_ what you expect from
a certain command and that you enforce their obedience to that
command. If you let your dog decide whether or not they want to
obey, they will often decide not to. Commands may have a certain
amount of decision making involved in them, but obedience to the
command may _never_ be a part of that decision. If you don't mean
a command, don't use it.

On a sympathetic note my girlfriends dog is deaf and practices
selective hearing(seeing?) by turning her head the other way.
We adopted her when she was about three, and she had this habit
pretty well ingrained. Fortunately she suffers from a mild case
of separation anxiety which keeps her from wandering out of
eyesight to avoid a command. She's slowly becoming less problematic,
but it's taking a while. I know a large part of that is that we don't
work her enough, so she hasn't grasped the concepts as well as
the dog we raised from a puppy.


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From: berlind@acsu.buffalo.edu (heike berlind)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Guess on WOTAN
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:18:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <009613DB.EDC6E940@uinpla.npl.uiuc.edu> simon@uinpla.npl.uiuc.edu writes:
>Some dogs can not handle meat.  I have a friend whose dog developed
>a condition where they could not digest meat. Has your dog eaten anything
>like chocolate or onions? They can make a dog very sick or kill them in
>large amounts.


No, he didn't have any chocolate or onions.  He just had his regular Iams
Chunks and an Iams dogbisquit or two.
I talked to the breeder just a couple of minutes ago and she suggested that
he might have developed an ulcer. She said I should go to the vet on Monday
and insist that they take x-rays/ultrasound of the stomach.  She said that
the diarrhea not really worries her so much but the fact that the stool is
almost black.  She said it could mean internal bleeding and that we have to
take care of it as soon as possible. She said that grass usually doesn't
cause problems like this but if there was only a small amount of gas or oil
mixed with the grass clippings that this gas/oil could have done damage to
the intestines. (The grass clippings he had where those my neighbor washed
off
the lawn mower after she was done mowing.
Well, I gave him two bufferins today so far, and they seem to help him
move around with less pain --he even barked again!!! It's really tough to
see your puppy so obviously in pain!
Heike
 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Stacey Curtis <sec@softserver.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: Re: East Bay Regional Parks/dog restrictions
Organization: University Of Canberra
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 02:36:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.172127.19699@u.washington.edu> Carol Brand,
cbrand@cac.washington.edu writes:
>A couple of people have stated that one of the main reasons to have a dog
>is for protection.  My main reason for having a dog is love and
>companionship.  I see it as my job to protect my dog, not visa versa.
>
>Your thoughts?
The primary reason I got my dog(s) was for companionship, the secondary
reason I got them is for protection.  It is my job to protect my dogs, as
much as it is my dogs job to protect me.  As far as being attacked when
my dog is not around then I would have to make alternative reactions, I'm
not overly worried about it.  My dogs haven't bitten anyone, nor are they
expected to.  If someone broke into my house and got attacked, no matter
how old they are or what their situation in life is, I would have no
sympathy for them whatever my dog did as they shouldn't have been there
in the first place.  Banning biting/protective dogs seems to be a
commonly heard cry.  Unfortunately so is banning guns, restricting police
numbers, etc.  How about society waking up to itself and banning the
mongrels who break the law and don't give a damn who they hurt in the
process.  It is not wrong for me to have a dog that would bite to protect
me or my property, it is wrong for people to attack and assault ME or MY
property with no respect for the law or my rights.   
 

Stacey.
From: langston@langston.cs.utk.edu (Mike Langston)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dogs in Europe
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:06:36 GMT
Reply-To: langston@langston.cs.utk.edu (Mike Langston)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Tennessee
NNTP-Posting-Host: langston.cs.utk.edu

when we lived in germany several years ago, we took our dog 
(a dackel, naturally) to restaurants all the time -- our 
german friends did too, but always left their kids at home

this practice seemed very civilized then (before we had our
own children) and still does now that we have three young-uns

the only problem we had was this: when someone would ask us
our dog's name, and we replied "otto," we were regularly
repremanded for giving a person name to a dog -- really,
dog names are in a class by themselves there

-- 
mike langston <langston@cs.utk.edu>
department of computer science, university of tennessee
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bds@mbunix.mitre.org (Smith)
Subject: Women in the Dog World
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:07:02 GMT

I've been wondering about something recently.  The local Weimaraner
Club's board of directors and officers are all women.  And it seems
that most of the people on this net are women (is this right?).  Since
I've never been to a dog show of any kind, I was wondering if most
dogs are shown by women, and if most judges are women?  Similarly, are
most breed clubs predominantly women?  There's nothing more than
curiosity to this, and I was just wondering.

Barry
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 1992 16:53:24 -0400 
From: Barbara Carlson <bc1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Pets and Kids

Excerpts from netnews.rec.pets.dogs: 29-Sep-92 Re: Pets and Kids by
David Paigen@tfs.com 
> On a related note, my wife has been pulling on our dog's ears,
> whiskers, and fur for some time now.  She tells people that she
> is training the dog to tolerate children.

I did something similar, but in my own mind what I was doing was
teaching the dog that *any* kind of a touch (of course, I'm not talking
about hitting) means love. So I'd tug (gently) on her ears and tell her
she's a sweet doggie, etc. So when I take her for walks, and the tiny
tots run over to hug and kiss her, she *likes* the kiddies messing with
her tail and looking into her ears and if it gets a little rough, she
asks them to be more gentle by licking them across the face. :) Or she
moves.

> Well, we got a visit from some friends and their 2.5 YO daughter.
> She started pulling on his ears and he didn't even blink.
>  
> My point is, if your dog will come into contact with small children,
> train the dog to suffer the abuse that a child is likely to heap upon
> it.

Even better, train it to recognize the "abuse" as rough love. Which is
really what it is. This ability has also stood Sugar in good stead with
the therapy dog test, as elderly people tend to be rough.

--Barb--
From: crittend@currituck.cs.unc.edu (bac)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Signs you've gone to a bad veterinarian
Keywords: it's only a joke
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:51:30 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

From Late Night with Letterman, 9/30/92

	   Top Ten Signs You've Gone To A Bad Veterinarian

10. When you hand him your cat he asks uncomfortably, "Monkey?"
 9. Two weeks later your dog coughs up a rubber glove.
 8. Big sign in the waiting room, "No Pets Allowed".
 7. Diploma looks a lot like menu from Chinese restaurant.
 6. Always saying "I've got a tick bomb in my pants!"
 5. Sends you card every spring "Time for your dog's annual neuturing."
 4. First question "What ails your varmint?"
 3. He has a lot of posters up advertising cock fights.
 2. He himself wears one of those big funnel-shaped dog collars.
 1. He bites.


_________brad crittenden_________________________crittend@cs.unc.edu_________

"I can shoot with either hand.  I'm amphibious." -Charles Shackleford, NC State
_____________________________________________________________________________
From: williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (It always scares me when something looks easy to do.)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Change subject of loose kids to loose dogs
Date: 25 Sep 92 11:24:45 EST

In article <lc4epgINN7n9@thor.cs.utexas.edu>, clancy@cs.utexas.edu (Daniel J. Clancy) writes:

lot of stuff deleted.

> I also will say that I feel strongly that if you have a dog that has
> ever had problems relating with other dogs, then you should keep him
> on a lead at all times.  This includes dogs that insist on dominating other
> dogs and might scare the owner even though they have never attacked another
> dog.
> 
> 
But what about the dog that is friendly,  and runs up to the dog that is
on the lead that has problems relating with other dogs? There can still be
a problem.

Anyway, my dog is of the off-lead type.  We go to a park where he is allowed
to run around without a lead as do most dogs.  There is hardly ever anyone
there, and all of the dogs that go there are of the variety that relate well
with other dogs.  I would hate to keep him on a lead everytime we went there.
On the other hand, I never ever in a million years would take my siberian
there without a lead -- she'd never come back!

Kim Williams
Kudos Kennels
> 
> Dan Clancy  (clancy@cs.utexas.edu)
> 
> 
>