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From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Update for the 25th, Christmas day
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:14:32 GMT
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Well,

For the next two weeks I am taking up the Friday updates of
dear sister Lemon. Now, normally the Xmas day episode is
shown at a different time in our area because of sporting
events and the like. So, this morning I looked at my TV Guide
to make sure of the time, only to find that the episode
in the Sacramento area is completely being pre-empted.
Is it only going to be pre-emptied on the West coast? If
anyone is getting the episode can you please do the update
for me. Thanks. Damn, it won't seem like Xmas without the
Horton family episode. Supposedly this year too Jack was
going to read the Christmas story, and this was going to
be J&J first Christmas together with Abbey. So, if someone
gets the episode can you possibly send me a copy and I will
pay for postage and the tape?


Gosh, Christmas 90 was so good. Remember a week or more 
before Jack proposed to Jenn on the roof, reciting from
Romeo and Juilet, he was scared shitless, then pretending
to fall. Only to have Jenn turn him down. It was so
sad. Then Christmas Eve, Jack set up a special dinner,
but pretended that the food was left over from the office
party, and he then gave her that great hope chest with
symbols of their various adventures, and that great letter.
Finally, Christmas day, dressing as Santa and proposing....oh
great stuff. Even last year when he crashed through the window,
destroying the Horton tree. Years past with Santa Steve.....
Christmas 90 when Kayla and Marcus took over, and this kid
asked what happened to the Santa with the patch--sob, sob....
Last year Chip hiring the sleigh--the driving being Jack--and
offering to take Julie for a ride. I will sure miss it all.


Again can someone do the update for Christmas day, the 25th?
Also, beg, beg, beg, groovel, groovel, if there is one could
I possible get a copy?


Well Happy Sol Invectus, December 25th... Heil Mithras...

Spudnix Peel--
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From: chee1m1@jetson.uh.edu (Gronlund, Nancy L.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL:Police Questioning??
Date: 15 Dec 1992 13:15 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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Hi All,

When Roman and Abe were "questioning" Vic and Ivan, I thought they were 
the most sarcastic and unethical police I have ever seen.  They were
totally unprofessional toward Victor and not much better with Ivan.  Granted,
Victor has done some really scummy things before, and is far from innocent
for Vivian's escape with Nicky, but still the police should show some
respect.  They never seemed to notice that Victor was telling them 
everything he knew about Viv's whereabouts and in general was trying to 
be helpful.  Maybe no one elese reacted this way to these scenes, but my
roommate and I were throwing pillows at the tv in protest!!

Nancy
CHEE1M1@JETSON.UH.EDU
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 13:29:12 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Letter from SSH
 <92346.090654IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
 <1992Dec11.211429.14920@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>

Beth inquires:
>Hey, does anyone still have that fax number for NBC/DOOL?

  Sure do Beth, it's 818-840-4968.  Compliments of Razzie.

>I just called DOOL's production offices and they were kind
>of snippy - "We don't own a fax machine."  Yeah right.  And
>Carly and Bo don't boink every episode.

  They're probably just tired of hearing from all of the SSH fans :-)
>
>Maybe we are getting to them just a bit??  I just finished my
>letter about SSH and I want to get it there QUICK, plus maybe
>send Kenny some hate mail while I'm at it.

  Ooh, I love it.  Mine is most likely going to be 5 or 6 pages.  I'm
  really incorporating a lot of neat stuff into it.  I'm also taking
  some of the suggestions/ideas we've talked about here on the net and
  throwing some of that in.  It's gonna be a real, neat, juice master-
  piece when I'm done.  Yup, I'm faxing it too.
>
A determined to do my best to save SSH Quince

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From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL : comments on WednesDAYS
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:25:09 GMT
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In article <1992Dec10.190855.4933@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, barter,elizabeth writes:
> 
> Ooh, David, you just reminded me of something!  Did anyone else besides
> me think it odd that the card was just signed "Love Frankie" rather than
> "Love Frankie and Eve"

     I did!  Of course, I'm somewhat fixated....But I thought it was really
strange.

> - or are we just supposed to forget Evie ever 
> existed? 

     Probably.  After all, with Shane gone, we'll never hear from her
again, will we?  Why bother reminding people of someone who they liked
who won't be back?  Besides, the way they go through writers, the current
crop probably never heard of Eve!

> Or maybe, maybe, maybe she has already left Frankie and found 
> Nick in the Cafe Americain and is on her way back to Salem to kick 
> some butt!!!!  Whaddya think Rose?

     Yeah, that's it Beth!  Somehow Frankie escaped from the witch
doctors and sent it.  Yeah.  Good idea girl!  Welcome to the Bayview
Bunch, where denial is a lifestyle choice!
> 
> Oh yeah and I loved Bo's face when Carly said they wouldn't live in
> a boat forever.  Huh???  Why????  Geez, Boink get a clue.

     Beth dear, I think that was supposed to be subtle foreshadowing.  
You know, Carly is such a domestic goddess she wants a house while Bo, 
ever the rebel, wants to keep his boat, leading to more anguish and angst
and heartbreak among our favorite couple and Lawrence constantly dropping
hints about how great his house is...
> 
> Beth

     Rosita la Guavita
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From: estherh@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Esther Heller)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:29:26 GMT
Subject: Re: A question for all
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps



  I apologize for my last, accidental posting.


 patricia@pete.uucp (Patricia Peterson)  asked:


> Does anyone remember a soap titled Somerset?  I remember this was on when
> I was in grammer school in the late sixties.  I can't remeber if this was
> the name of the soap or the town they were from.. There was also the 
> city of Bay City.


  Yes, Somerset was the first spin-off of Another World.  For AW fans,
it featured Ada's brother Sam (Jordan Chaney) and his wife Lehoma (the
actress who plays Merlene on Evening Shade, she disappeared for years)
and Rachael's father.  
  For those who care, later, Iris left AW and started Texas, also now
long gone.

                         Esther
			 (I get by with a little help from my friends
			   Leela and Romana)

Esther A. Heller           estherh@cup.HP.com
Software Technology Division / Hewlett-Packard / Cupertino, CA  

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Subject: AW: Bret
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:47:50 GMT
Keywords: Tommy

From the little I have seen of her, I DO like Bret with Ryan. It was so
refreshing to see Ryan with someone else besides Jensen. I saw a chemistry
that I liked and I hope I don't get disappointed.

I don't know what the writers are doing, but they better not kill of
Tommy. I hope some miracle happens and he goes into remission. I certainly
not going to watch AW if he dies. They have a good thing in this young
actor and he should definitely continue with the show.

John

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From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Subject: AMC: TAN: Welcome to new posters!
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab, Lexington, MA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 18:05:52 GMT


Greetings to more of our newest posters!
If you're on this list, and aren't new, please forgive me, and chalk
it up to a brain-daze.  and if you're *not* on this list, and *are* new,
keep on posting!  I'm sure to notice you eventually!

May Lee
Johanne Kaminski
Suzanne Soroczak
Suzanne Geosits
Linda posting from Chris Infantino's account
Sue (IDSWB@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU)
Mary (godschmf@ucbeh.san.uc.edu)
ed r baker
Michael George Williams
Eric Taylor
Tony Waddell

-- 
Margaret D. Gibbs              "Practice random kindness and 
Assistant Staff	                 senseless acts of beauty"
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
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From: casper@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Johanne Kaminski)
Subject: Re: GL: Nick
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 7958
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:13:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.233641.1772@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> dvw@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (diane.v.wilkerson) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.220855.29719@tsoft.sf-bay.org> casper@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Johanne Kaminski) writes:
>>Am I the only one who thinks the character of Nick is totally boring
>>and useless?
>
>No, he's just written that way...  Relegated to the status of Fletcher.
>Nice doormats for the time being.

Oh, but I like Fletcher (too bad Fletch is only a doormat)

>
>>The character had some use when we first found out he was Alex's son, but 
>>she is gone now.  
>
><sigh>.  If they can't get Beverlee back, then I wish they would steal Jane
>Elliot (she's Tracy Quatermaine) from GH for the role of Alex.

She would be GREAT!!!  Tho, I think she is a bit younger than the previous
Alex, and I don't know if she has the soft/caring side that Bev had.

>
>>And, it was nice to see Mindy get someone to love, but she is gone now.
>
>Not far enough, it seems.  Just can't keep a terrible character down <sigh>.

Oh, but I really liked the last Mindy; I don't know who this new actress is,
but I hope she is good.

>>Now, Paul on the other hand...  I wish they would give him a regular role.
>
>Ah, along with David, the only two to come along and challenge Ross the Boss
>for the top hunk spot.  What?  Did I hear someone say "What about 
>Fraunkeeeeee?"  I didn't think so.

I like David alot too!!!  I wish they would find him a real woman, or at 
least someone better than what's-her-name.  (I don't think she looks too
good in her latest hairdo)
And, while they are at it, could they please find someone for Fraunkeeeeee!

>Diane Wilkerson    

Johanne

Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders)
Subject: AMC: Godzilla Quickies 921215
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:57:33 GMT
Organization: EnviraForm


Interesting article in Friday's (12/11/92) Chicago Tribune (sect.3; pg.12):

AWARD CUT IN REALTY'S BIAS CASE

>The U.S. Court of Appeals in Chicago has ordered a realty firm on the 
>Southwest side and four of its agents to pay more than $40,000 in damages 
>for violating federal fair-housing laws that prohibit racial steering...
>Matchmaker Real Estate Sales Center, 5427 S. Kedzie Ave...court lowered the 
>amount from $91,000...four agents steered black "testers" to integrated 
>neighboorhoods while discouraging whites from considering those areas...
>(ED.: slick)...the black testers were shown homes in price ranges lower 
>than they had requested..."



Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Chrismas trees
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:52:44 EST
From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu

>I always get a BIG tree, and my thing is tropical/ocean ornaments.
>I have a pretty neat variety of shells, fish, palm trees, etc. 

   Wow...gives me some good ideas for next year...


Subject: AMC: Does Dixie own a bed?
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:22:56 GMT
From: slaury@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Susan Laury)

>I've begun to notice that Dixie and Brian *never* do the wild thang in a 
>bed! They are almost always downstairs, on the floor, naked (and probably 
>with the drapes wide open and/or the door unlocked!). 

   Isn't doing the wild thing in places other than the bedroom, "par for 
the course" for couples who have been together for a while? 



Subject: AMC: TAN: The Langley Lotto 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:12:00 GMT
From: pamela@keps.com (Pamela Blalock)

>How about one for Langley. We begged and pleaded until they brought
>Tad back. We have power. Let's bring back the professor!

   I'll put on the kneepads and beg only for the return of Susan Pratt.


...Re: Tad's employer...Barb Rush must have taken fashion lessons from 
Beverlee McKinsey; the haircut, the clothes...I thought I was in the middle 
of an old GL episode when I first saw her (Sherri Crain can back me up on 
this) 

...I thought Derek was right to brainslap Mimi - she's playing him cheap...

...where is An Li?...

...Hayley is getting on my nerves, big-time...

...FFing through: Stewart and Gloria scenes / Adam and Gloria scenes (too 
predictable) / Ruth and Joe scenes

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From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Subject: Re: AMC: Let's prove that the writers lurk...
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 01:31:38 GMT

In article <1gb935INNpv9@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> edt@css.itd.umich.edu (Eric Taylor) writes:
>In article <1992Dec4.161833.178@oz.plymouth.edu> patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward) writes:
>>I absolutely agree -- the writers WILL NOT include anything that
>>someone from r.a.t.s. requests, simply because that would blow their
>>cover in a BIG way and we'd never be the same.  I prefer things are
>>they are.  They lurk, we know they lurk, we play little word games,
>
>I really doubt it.  [whole bunch o' argument deleted]

Eric, I don't know how long you've been reading this newsgroup -- if
it's less than, say, two years or so, you've missed some postings
that have convinced many of us that the writers do lurk.

Also, your explanation of how a soap is written runs contrary to an
article I recently read about a soap-writers' seminar in New York
City.

>I think when a real writer shows up we'll know about it for sure, just
>like when sometimes we have an actor's brother or sister pop up on
>usenet, like when Bryce Jasmer who works at Next (Bryce's brother is
>Brent Jasmer's brother who plays "Sly" on the "Bold and the Beautiful")
>sent that nice little post on August 2nd of this year (let me quote a
>tiny bit from it):
>
>>So I just got off the phone with Brent and told him about The Net. He was
>>amazed that such a thing existed, and even better yet, that people were
>>discussing his show. (He says "Hi" by the way.)

You're arguing oranges and apples; just because an *actor* doesn't
know about the net doesn't mean the *writers* don't.

>So, all I say is when a writer starts reading usenet, certainly we'll
                                               ^^^^^^
      It's not just Usenet, it's also Bitnet and Internet and....

>know about it.  It's bound to happen sooner or later, just as it
>happens in other groups (some groups do have fairly famous people
>contribute on a frequent basis).

It already has.  This argument pops up on a semi-regular basis, so
I'm sure you'll be seeing other reasons to believe it.
-- 
Patricia Martin Steward                      patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913
From: san7675@zeus.tamu.edu (STEPH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ATWT: 12.11.92 babydoll update
Date: 13 Dec 1992 01:56 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
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"Jeep" <jmeranda@us.oracle.com> writes...

>BBoob is there also.  Had'one puts her on the witness stand next.
>He wants to know why, if she and Cork love each other, she ran away
>to NYC and left her hubby at the Mustang.  If BBoob had said, "Look
>my contract ran out because I want to pursue singing in biker joints
>in lower Manhattan," it would have made about as much sense as the
>caca she was spreading in Seth's all-in-one room ...  

Did anyone else notice that it seems like she's contradicting herself?
Sorry if I'm having the moron realization of the year, but she went on
and on about how HoldNone should go back to Lily and work things through
in an honest way - give her a chance - try to understand her feelings...
everything she's NOT doing for Kirk.  I don't understand.

>This Tom Hughes does little to promote interest in
>me ... I can't imagine what he has to do to get Cargo interested ...
>He's basically ... there ... BORING ... really antiseptically BORING ..)

And of course, he has about 3 different faces - the "I'm self-righteously 
indignant" face, the "Cat that ate the Canary proud" face, and the ever
popular "goofball" face.

Of course, he does occasionally surprise everyone with true acting - I thought
he was quite good on Friday with his confiding to Jess how scared he was...
but most of the time he's obnoxious.

Dragonet
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Mrs. Bo Brady?
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:33:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

demetri@cgrg.ohio-state.edu writes:

>Am I the only one who finds this annoying/unrealistic?  Carly said to Bo,
>"Tomorrow I will be Mrs. Bo Brady."  Not Carly Brady or Carly Manning-Brady.
>She's a doctor with an established practice for crying out loud! Do the
>professional women on soap opera's even consider the options, or are 
>we supposed to think the "Mrs. John Doe" thing is romantic.  I remember the
>same thing with Diana Colville, an otherwise independent woman who said "I
>don't want to go away for a honeymoon.  I just want to concentrate on being
>Mrs. Roman Brady.  I know I am one of a fairly small population who has
>entirely kept my name, but my colleagues who have changed their names still
>don't go in for the Mrs. thing.  Opinions?
>                                     Renee

Personally, it made me gag.  When a woman willingly reduces herself to
an extention of her man, I am enraged.  I am another of those who kept
the name my parents gave me after I got married.  (After a lot of
arguments and explainations).  No, I'm not a doctor, or a lawyer, or a
celebrity, or an author.  I'm a woman who likes her name and saw no
reason, and was given no reason to change it other than - thats the
way its done.

Since this is a recent event in my life, its still a sore spot with me. 
Having to deal with all those who think that I owe the world a damn good
reason for this breach of tradition - the nerve of some people.

I don't think being Mrs. Husband's Name is romantic at all.  I think its
terrible.  Changing your last name is one thing - So if she wanted to 
call herself Carly Brady, I wouldn't be bothered, but I just don't understand
this:

"My name is Mrs. John Doe, but you can call me Mary."  I just don't get
this at all. If her name is Mrs. John Doe, then how do you get Mary from
that?  

I better get off this subject before I really start ranting.  If anyone would
like to rant about this via e-mail or start a TAN, I'm happy to join in.



-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Music Box
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:10:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The New Alaska Riviera
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In article <1992Dec11.150707.14743@chpc.utexas.edu>, Joanna L. Castillo writes:

> In article <1992Dec10.053832.18806@panix.com> Greg, spira@panix.com writes:
> >Can anyone out there identify the name of the piece of music that
> >was played on the music box that Larry bought.  I know I know the piece
> >from somewhere, but can't remember where.

> Boy, Greg!  You must be down.  They said the name of the song several
> times...it's "Fascination".  I sure do hope you feel better, soon!  :)

     Just out of curiousity, is this the same "Fascination" Roman
and Diana danced to?  The one Stinky loves? :-)  If so, prepare
to hear a scream world wide when she gets back! :-)
> 
> Joanna.

Chuckling Rosita
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From: EFS6MEF@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: DOOL: the music box
Reply-To: ecz5mxr@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Date: 11 Dec 92 13:49:11 PST

In article <1992Dec11.150842.26846@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, on 11 Dec 1992 15:08:42 GMT,
mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak) writes:

>I just have to ask.... what the hell is a "Beguine"???    I like this
>song quite a bit myself and always wondered.

Begin the Beguine is an old Cole Porter tune.  A beguine is a
seduction.

**Razzie 
>
>Tim -  who's still disappointed in Sally and is beginning to suspect
>       she is a fake -