From: x92slam@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Islamic World News and False Claims.
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:22:22 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <2809@ucl-cs.uucp>, B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk writes:
> 
> One gentleman named  Omar Farooq onf@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (omar.farooq) 
> had recently made claim that he had visited some remote village in Punjab 
> three years back and seen some old mosques being converted to Gurudwaras
> after 1947. I have no doubt to say this gentleman made such lofty claims
> even without having any idea that how difficult it is to get a mutual
> VISA between India and Pakistan to visit a place unless you have a *blood* 
> relative or have a *celebrity* status ( usually film star or sports
> personality). Even accredited journalists working with foreign news agencies
> but with Indian Passports are refused VISA by Pakistani Governments even to
> visit Islamabad or Karanchi. For someone to claim that he got permission to
> visit a remote village without having a relative there, is absolutely 
> unbelievable.
> 
> This clearly shows that claims he has made to visit Punjab were completely 
> untrue and outrageous, and meant to create bad feelings amongst people.
> It is suprising that how  young students can make such (false) claims 
> without any factual basis to support on public forum.
> 
> If Mr Omar still thinks that he really visited India three years back, he 
> can send me his VISA number and Date and place of issue, I will get it 
> verified from computer records of people entering the country from ministry.
> Mr Omar has yet to respond to my request earliar posted on this forum three
> days back for the same. I hope Mr Omar or anyone else will desist making
> such claims in future just to support onesided news posted in the name of 
> Islamic World News.
> 
> With Best Regards,
> 

It's not so difficult as you have descirbed to get a indian visa.
I got visa for bihar, but i visisted all over india. 
I went to banarus( spend 10 days there) and all those places.
I also went to amritsur.
It was like six year back.
I visited like three months all over india without any difficulty.
I had fun time there.

My impression is that nobody  knows, if you got visa for one place
you can visit all over inida.

Getting indian visa from Paksitan(Karachi) is not difficult.
You can see a lot people outside the idian visa, they will arrange
every thing for you (like a letter from india), if you don't
have any relative there.

But My point is it's not difficult like getting a American visa.

India is a good place to visit. Specially those old buildings.
I don't know about converting old mosques.

But you can see many old mosques, and It's very difficult 
to go and offer prayer, because those are now inside the
hindu dominated areas.
I saw one in banarus, but we did'nt go there because that was
very dangerous to go and offer prayer.

 I offered isha prayer in banarus mosque(I thinks that was babree
masjid, which got a hindu mandar exactly next to masjid or we can
say the outer wall of mandir and mosque is the same.). 
When we started prayer, the mandir bells were ringing so
loudly(exactly  the same time when we start praying).
We finished the prayer(as a muslim offering prayer in that mosque
was really different for me as compared to offering prayer in other
mosque, because I feel it, it was some thing deep inside my heart
which you can not describe).

Please no offense(it's a experince)

	--Shakir









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