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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Who's Sela?  Now it can be told.
Summary: Sheesh!  Get back to work, YOU!
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:20:59 GMT
Reply-To: tjw+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <14709@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:

> Sela was the mysterious blonde Romulan played by Denise Crosby in four
> episodes (up to "Unification II").  The producers have mentioned that there
> won't be any more stories featuring her, probably because they realized
> how insanely inane the story behind Sela's origin was.

OK. I follow you now.

Actually, "stranding" a character is a long standing TV tradition.  It is
usually only done on Soap Operas, however.  I remember one Soap that wanted
to get rid of a child of one of the characters.  The last time the kid
appeared, the parent said: "Johnny, Why don't you go upstairs and wax your
skis?"  Johnny dutifully went upstairs and was never seen again.  This was
about 20 years ago.

Maybe Sela will be seen soon on "Days of Our Lives" as a crooked investement
broker with an eye patch.

Terry
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From: efisch@cs.utexas.edu (Eric A. Fisch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Which episode was this??
Date: 27 Jul 1992 16:41:10 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
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Forgive my lack of placing plots with titles, but which episode had
Wesley put in command of a group of people working on some engineering
problem? (sounds like every episode, right ?!?) I remeber that members
of his team thought he was stupid and challenged his authority and he
couldn't deal with it. I tried looking through all of Tim's episode
synposis, but I couldn't find a thing.  


Thanks,
Eric Fisch
efisch@cs.utexas.edu
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Brent Spiner and Skin Coloring
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:05:31 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <28JUL199213490605@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, kimnach@lims02 (GREG KIMNACH) writes:
>I say that in his quest to become more human, Data would at least want to 
>change his skin color--but to which race? 

Let's see.  Given:

1. Brent Spiner is caucasian.
2. The practical side of changing Data's skin color would be to allow
   Brent to undergo less time in the makeup chair.

I think the answer is pretty obvious, eh?

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From: rmbandy@athena.mit.edu (Reba M Bandyopadhyay)
Subject: Shatner and Nimoy in Boston--a request
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:35:22 GMT

Hello all.  I went to the 25th anniversary tour of William Shatner and 
Leonard Nimoy here in Boston on the 17th.  Unfortunately, I did not bring a
camera, although I noticed plenty of people at the event did!  So I have a 
request:  if anyone out there reading this went to the Boston appearance and
took photos, would you be willing to make me a few copies of any good shots
of Nimoy and Shatner?  I would of course pay for the cost of the copies, and
for whatever postage it might cost to mail the photos to me if it isn't 
convenient to drop them off at MIT.  Any response would be greatly
appreciated!  Please write me via email, as it is often hard to keep up with
the volume of posts on these groups.  Thanks very much in advance!

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From: kenward@cs.sfu.ca (Kenward Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:59:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

In article <BruE8K.9qF@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek) writes:
>do any of the men out there think that jennifer hetrick is worthy? i mean, if 
>picard found her so....
>
>[that's vash to you and me]
>
> sandra g. + illustrator-for-hire, buffalo ny + v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu

Ahhhh, I see.

    Sandra Guzdek == Jennifer Hetrick


Kenward Chin (by the way, ;-) )
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From: elw@jaguar.sky2 (Ellis Workman, 1-157 Med Sci, 4-4435)
Subject: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Keywords: Scottie is Captain Kangaroo
Reply-To: elw@jaguar.sky2
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 13:12:01 GMT



I finally got around to seeing the video this weekend, and was
amazed by how much Scottie looks like Bob Keeshan (sp??) aka
Captain Kangaroo!


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From: kenward@cs.sfu.ca (Kenward Chin)
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:30:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.175912.7519@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>
>No, Picard's daughter in Inner Light was the true babe. She even challenges
>Robin Lefler for 'cutest character that appears in one episode'.

Have you noticed how Ashley Judd (Robin Lefler) has this "speak with head
cocked to one side" thing?  Similar to Jonathan Frakes' "walk with head
tilted forward" thing.

Kenward Chin
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From: jam@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Cause & Effect (spoiler)
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:26:25 EDT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University



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In response to this previous post :

>Anyway, the theory behind the time-loop, as I understand it, is that the
>ship existed for every instant of all the years it was stuck, but kept
>repeating the same stretch of *subjective* time, so maybe the producers
>or whoever said it was not time travel were pulling a semantic stunt
>on us.  Hey, WE're the computer people, we ought to be able to handle it
>when somebody is torquing us by being too literal8-)
>
>	Bob 

Actually, the Soyuz class ship encountered the temporal distortion effect
and must have entered it.  This ship then collided with the big E, thereby
causing antimatter containment failure on the big E which then exploded.
This huge explosion then "interacted" with the temporal distortion; this
is what caused the temporal causality loop.

The Boseman therefore, time travelled to the big E's time from the year 2278,
then was caught up in the loop.  Therefore, the starship Boseman was stuck in 
the loop for the same exact amount of time as the Enterprise,
just over 17 days.

            Joe.
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: New TNG Characters
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:29:05 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <saurav.712518141@cory.Berkeley.EDU> saurav@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Saurav Chatterjee) writes:
>I will stop watching this show if Ensign Ro becomes a regular
>character on this show.

I'll bite.  Why?

>If Picard leaves (it would be a shame),
>then they should have Riker as captain and Shelby as first officer.
>The reverse is possible, but unlikely since in the Borg episode
>Riker was clearly above her in rank.

But that does bring up an interesting possibility for a story... after
her meteoric rise in Starfleet following her stellar handling of the
rebuilding of the Federation fleet after the Borg attack (after all,
everything seemed back to normal three episodes later), CAPTAIN April
Shelby is transferred to the Enterprise.  Riker gets stiffed once again
for the captain's chair and finds himself as first officer to the woman
he'd viewed as a cold-blooded b*tch.  It wouldn't last long, but it
would certainly do a lot in adding conflict and character to the show... :-)
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From: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Subject: Re: Where they go in TUC--SPOILER!
Reply-To: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 06:02:50 GMT


>In addition, it was a tip of the hat to the fans, saying that they wanted
>one final trip in this "NeverNeverland" that we call Star Trek, a land which
>is completely fantasy and where people don't overanalyze things.
>-- 
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>"BOB Is Our Hope/Jesus is Our BOB/Jesus Is BOB Hope" - Anonymous SubGenius
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How dare you say that Star Trek isn't reality!  What meaning would 
my life have if Star Trek weren't real and I didn't have explanations
for its every facet perfectly linking 20+ years of television and
movies?  It is my god-given right to analyze every single sentence
down into the ground and read anything into I want to start a new
thread that will go on for ages and yet never go anywhere.
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From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:30:53 GMT
Organization: Aston University

cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:
: 1) First of all Chronos One is a ship, but I think you guys are right about
: Chronos also being the planet. However, it was to be abandoned so by the time
: of ST:TNG it probably isn't the planet any longer.
: 
: 2) When the mention of Romulan Ale being illegal pops up Kirk says they are
: 1000 light-years from Starfleet HQ. How long is this movie (their perspective)
: anyway? Even at Warp 10 it would take a full year to get 1000 ly and I doubt
: they were going that fast!
It isn't intended to be taken that literaly, just that they are a long way
away.
: 
: 3) When the Klingons were under 0 g and were shoot they were thrown backwards.
: Why should this be? A phaser beam has no mass, thus no momentum! By the law of
: momentum they should have stayed exactly where they were 0 g or not.
vaporised Klingon, Newtons 3rd law of motion.
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From: deboer@neptune.mcs.anl.gov (Ms. Jennifer L. DeBoer)
Subject: Re: cloaking device
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:48:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.3208.8566@dosgate> "sam lefkowitz" <sam.lefkowitz@canrem.com> writes:
>
>  This may sound simplistic but why hasn't the Federation created their
>own cloaking device? They had the Klingon version on their trip to Earth
>to save the whales. I assume they are able to takes things apart and
>copy them. Any Ideas?
>--

From what I understand, a cloaking device requires a lot of power, more
than the average starship can afford to generate (especially since
there's so much more to cloak).  The Romulans and the Klingons have smaller
warships, so they can afford the extra power which the larger scientific
vessels of the Federation can't produce, at least not with any efficiency.
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Subject: Re: Sirtis's English accent
From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:26:41 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <383-JNEWS-2.1@smylex.UUCP>, Jeff Lee <jlee@smylex.UUCP> writes:
> In article <1992Jul20.154302.5683@iscsvax.uni.edu>, althof5805@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>> 
>> *Yes!*  She most certainly does have an English accent (just like Patrick
>> Stewart!--dja ever wonder why a native Frenchman would have a *flawless*
>> English accent?  He must be a linguistic god).
> 
> Yes, especially when all the rest of his family have French accents...  :-)

Huh?  Robert and Rene (I don't recall what Marie's voice sounded like) all
have heavy British accents.  Made me think that the UK had conquered
France by the 24th century.  :-)

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From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WHO'S HOTTER???
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:16:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul22.193510.14370@nwnexus.WA.COM>, elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes...
>In article <92203.164222SXT115@psuvm.psu.edu> <SXT115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
>>    My response to the Who's Hotter campaign (female version)
> 
>	Piffle on "female version."  Howzabout just "for people
>attracted to men version?" :-)  Anyway, here's my list:
> 
>1. Picard.  Oh, Jean-Luc, make it so.
	yes, YES, *YES*!!!

>5. Worf.  Klingon d*ck.  Basso profundo klingon d*ck.
	Ohmigawd! :)

>7. Data.  Go, go, Gadget penis...
	BA HA HA HA!

>At the very bottom:  Wesley Crusher.  ick!  Yech, ptui.
	oh, he's kinda cute, in a grade school kinda way.... 

and riker with the beard would definately make it onto my list...

 sandra g. + illustrator-for-hire, buffalo ny + v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: kmrc@ellis.uchicago.edu (Melanie A. Miller)
Subject: Re: OK, NOW WHO'S THE GREATER SPACE BIMBO?
Reply-To: kmrc@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:37:36 GMT

Nope, can't agree with Kirk being a bigger space bimbo than Riker.
Remember, Riker is only a commander--Kirk got first shot at the
available space babes (I can't believe I'm actually typing
this--sheesh) because he was the captain.  Give Riker his own
command, and he'll start his own dynasty.  Or village, whatever.

MAM
Who still can't believe that Spiner's in his forties. . .
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From: deboer@neptune.mcs.anl.gov (Ms. Jennifer L. DeBoer)
Subject: Re: cloaking device
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:44:26 GMT

In article <yqrxw8#@rpi.edu> johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Witt Johnson) writes:

>I wouldn't want to be around when your average Romulan captain heard you call
>his Warbird "small." Sort of like calling the Grand Canyon "adequate."
>
This was in reference to my comment about why the Federation doesn't use
cloaking devices.  I should have paid more attention to the POWER consumption,
not size; a warbird may be big, but they use almost all of their energy in
weapons, speed and cloaking, while the Enterprise has more passenger space
and uses more power for scientific-type things.  My apologies for the
inaccuracy of my earlier comment, and further apologies if this topic has
already been hashed to death.

Jenni DeBoer

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From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Season 6 Transporter Accident
Organization: Clark University
Date: 28 JUL 92 23:49:56 GMT

**Pseudo-spoilers I guess**

In a previous article, gerlach@yuma.acns.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach) wrote:
> 
>How's this:
> 
>While transporting back to Starfleet HQ after returning from Khitomer,
>Mr. Scott is caught up during transit in the temporal distortion wave
>caused by the return of Picard and Company from their adventures in
>the past (Time's Arrow II).  As they materialize in their present,
>they find that they've taken a certain disoriented Scotsman along for
>the ride.
>--

My best guess is the transporter incident bringing Scotty into TNG-time won't 
take place in TOS-time for a few years after the Khitomer meeting.  Otherwise, 
how would James Doohan get a job in any potential Star Trek VII, VIII, IX...?
Also, they're done filming the Time's Arrow II episode, and Doohan doesn't 
show up for filming for a few weeks.  Good idea though.  I'd imagine will be 
akin to "It just happened.  Oh well."

..Mitch

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From: den@cci632.cci.com (Dennis J. Buttery)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Picard's Log Entries--supplemental
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:27:38 GMT
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY

In article <Bs86Bq.CvL@apollo.hp.com> arnold@apollo.hp.com (Ken Arnold) writes:
>In article <1992Jul17.170650.57309@cc.usu.edu> slp66@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>I've noticed that on most (95%) of the shows, Picard makes a log entery and
>>gives the stardate.  (Which, I understand, includes the season number (second
>>digit).)  Sometimes he makes others during the show. 
>>
>>This is what puzzles me:  In the additional enteries he sometimes give a
>>stardate and sometimes says "Captain's log: Supplemental."  Why the difference?
>> What does supplemental mean and why use it?
>
>What puzzles *me* is why he says the date in the first place.  I mean,
>you can be answering machines *right* *now* that append (or prepend)
>the current date and/or time on a message.  The Trek computers ain't up
>to it?
>
>1/2 ;-), 1/2 Sigh
>
>		Ken Arnold

  I do believe that you are supposed to regard the log entries as an 'after-the-fact' narration.  It's as if someone (You) were reading the logs after the mission was completed and the logs were filed at Starfleet HQ (or somplace).
Try listening to them as if you were reading them yourself.   

                                                -DJB-
From: byron@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Byron Chun)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Klingon Bumps - Explained!
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:09:11 GMT
Organization: California State University, Sacramento

The Klingons do have bumps.  They always have.

The low resolution TV of the 60's and 70's did not capture the
bumps on their heads.  The dark skin part is easy.  The synthetic 
oil from their ships is what they are covered with.  Of course, 
there are dark skinned ones as well as light skinned ones, and
some even sort of in the middle.  But most of the battle ready
ones must stay in the ships (which always have a lot of "steam"
or maybe atmospheric enhancements for battle readiness?) so they
get the most dirty.

So flame away...you will be assimilated.   [-|

2 of 3...beaming up for a beer.

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From: cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:47:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <BruE8K.9qF@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek) writes:
)do any of the men out there think that jennifer hetrick is worthy? i mean, if 
)picard found her so....
)
)[that's vash to you and me]

Hummmm....  Nice legs....  (For a human!)

Tim
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From: rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good)
Subject: DS9 and Babylon 5
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 02:19:10 GMT


Well, I just hunted for this group today after hearing rumours of the
Deep Star 9 series that was to start up soon.

After looking around on here, I noticed references to Babylon 5, which I 
have never heard of before.

Questions:

1. When is DS9 proposed to start?
2. Is Babylon 5 also in the Star Trek theme?
3. Why don't we see Q anymore?
4. Will there ever be a Star Trek movie that doesn't include Kirk, Bones,
   Spock, and the likes of the old crew?  Why beat a dead horse?  Paramont
   has a nice set up going here... I want to see more!


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