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From: fractal@fractal.com (Tom Hedges)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Whats the bandwidth of SCPC signals? (and other related Qns)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 11:56:22 PST
Organization: Fractal Design Corp.
Reply-To: fractal@fractal.com (Tom Hedges)
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In article <1992Nov12.141313.5683@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> (rec.video.satellite), robe@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (robert.g.egan) writes:
>
>I and many other netters would probably be more interested in a
>device that allows us to use the IF loop prevalent these days,
>140 MHz. Just a suggestion, businesses are always talking about bringing
>to market what the market wants.
>

That's not really a true statement, does anyone other than Drake use
140 MHz? There are several IRD makers that use 70 MHz today, like
Chaparral.

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:39:14 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Hoyfield fight Friday?

>In article <1992Nov12.163023.1212@exu.ericsson.se> exumfox@exu.ericsson.se
>writes:
>>
>>Will it be offerred PPV?
>>

>It DEFINITELY will be PPV -- no ITC backhauls but it may creep
>ITC on Morelos on a tape-delayed basis.  After the fight,
>I am sure there will be highlights released by the promoter (just
>bits and pieces, no complete fight).

>BTW, why watch the fight?  Listen to Gary's Friday Night Live
>show instead!  8^)


In any case the fight is NOT being offered to dish owners, and we will be
talking about THAT on tonight's show, since I believe "Only on Cable" is
illegal.

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From: smonares@tvland.UUCP (Steve Monares)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:48:42 MDT
Organization: The TV LAND BBS

Well, I take the feed (for my own use) off the 7 meter dish at the TV station I work for and the singal is fine for the most part.  There is a little noise in the singal, but nothing anyone else would probably notice, and no "sparklies" anywhere.  Of course with a 7 meter dish in Colorado I would not expect to see any. :)  But I tend to agree that 5V (Ch.9) is not the best transponder on Telstar 301.  BTW, anyone know where Paramount will be feeding ST:TNG come next November when T301 "dies"?

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From: lau@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Laurie Vandiford)
Subject: Re: AEN is gone
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:20:05 GMT

Well...AEN is still with us.  I saw Heavy Harv getting psyched up about
a Ted Nugent video just after 2:00 a. m. eastern today (Heavy Harv can
get REALLY psyched up).

So, they must be running 0200-1400 EST or midnight to noon in Denver.
Hardly what you'd call prime time.

Speaking of Denver, that TDRSS chyron is jumping around...they were on
Channel 13 this morning.  Wonder what's brewing?
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From: lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?
Organization: DSC
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:33:07 GMT

In article <7470@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>, alanr@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Alan N Rovner) writes:
> 
> I believe this subject has been discussed before, but I'm still having
> trouble.  The Saturday Star Trek feed at 3pm Pacific time has looked awful
> the last few weeks.  Lots of noise, sparklies and the like.  I compared
> notes with a friend about 40 miles away and he sees the same thing.

I'm 40 miles from St. Louis, MO, and I've noticed lower picture quality
since the new season started in September. Sparklies and problems with
blues/reds that I don't remember having last year. I have a 7 1/2 foot
fiberglass dish with an Echostar SRD4000 and a 35-degree LNB.

Larry
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From: hew@Turing.ORG (Harold E. Wheaton (N6WUX))
Subject: Re: Getting Started with Satellite Viewing
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:59:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.022525.6622@cs.wayne.edu> solomon@rocdec.roc.wayne.edu
 (Orson Scott) writes:
>As most of you know CABLE rates keep climbing and climbing. My father
>and I were considering purchasing a sateland associated decoders and
>tuners. Could someone make a recommendations of what to purchase and
>give a ball park figure of how much it will cost. I have talked with
>several people who have them, but they really don't seem to know much
>other than it works and can get all the movie channels. On friend of
>mine has to subscribe to a service which provides him with staellite
>descrambling codes.

The basic setup is: dish, feedhorn, low noise amplifier/converter, and
the IRD (integrated receiver+descrambler).  Unfortunately the cost can
get nasty rather quickly and someone on the net may be able to quote
something.  The popular channels are scrambled and thus require subscrip-
tion but one can buy "a-la-carte."  The friend who obtains the descrambling
codes is most likely not subscribing to the channels.  Read the Frequently
Asked Questions and make sure you understand scrambling before you proceed.

>Also, we were curious about the new smaller dishes which won't be an
>eyesore in the backyard. Are they available yet and what are the
>disadvantages of owning the smaller dishes vs the large ones.

A five foot dish will get the powerful Galaxy 5 satellite which is loaded
with the popular "cable" channels.  Someone on the net may have the list
of channels.  A three foot dish will get some (scrambled) big-city
broadcast stations via Satcom K1 (Ku-band).  The service that provides the
latter is called PrimeStar and I've that certain local cable companies are
connected to them somehow.

Within a few years, there will be all kinds of goodies available for people
with 2-3 foot dishes but we're not there yet.

>Help if you can and take pity on the novice! It is a costly step from
>what I understand.

Hope this helps!
					-Harold
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Brightside update --- and an interesting sighting about DW TV
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 21:43:43 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

FROM THE SOUTH SCANNER SHACK OF ROBERT SMATHERS:

I called Brightside yesterday (at their 800 number).  It was
disconnected and no further info was available about them, so
I am already chalking them up as dead.  

Now about Deutsche Welle TV... Here is something I have no
heard or seen anywhere but I managed to observe it this afternoon.
In the horizontal blanking interval of the NTSC C4/5 signal, there
is a service ID clear as can be.  I don't know how common this
is in Europe or Asia, but it is RARE in North America to have that
there.  The service ID says "DEUTSCHE WELLE  BERLIN  I" across
the top of the screen.  Very interesting thing, I think.  The only
other times I've seen a service provider ID was during a spring
training California Angels game done by KTLA (it said KTLA KU-1)
and it was also done by ESPN for one of their baseball backhauls
this past baseball season (it told the name of the uplinker and 
a phone number in clear text -- I'm sure the ATIS had the same
thing, but only in morse code).

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu


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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:18:00 EST
From:         Bill Jones <wejones@CBDA7.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Permission to repost? (was Re: S-VHS connections)

>
> In the past, Bob Hoffman sent me an explanation about the signal conversion
> process.  With your permission Bob (if you're reading this), I could post it.
>
>
This is completely off the subject of the post, but this is somthing
that has confused me about "net etiquette".  Why is it that everyone
feels obliged to get permission to re-post an E-mail message?  I
could understand it if the writer started it with "for your eyes only",
or something like that, but otherwise it seems to me that if someone
sends me a message, that the message is now mine to do with what I want,
provided that the original writer is given credit for any original
ideas.  It is not necessary to get permission to include a non exact
exerpt of the ideas in a book or other work in a publication, it is only
necessary to properly reference the source of the info, and a letter
should be even less restrictive since it isn't copywrited.  No-one
would have second thoughts about xeroxing an electric bill they got
in the mail.
   I know that it's probably not so much a legal matter as much as just
trying to be polite (although I have seen people on other groups
threatening to take legal action because someone posted his personal
E-mail), but I can't understand why anyone would object, unless there
was something personal in the letter or unless there were embarassing
mistakes in the content (this has happened to me).
   Anyway, is it really considered poor etiquette to post a personal
E-mail message without permission, or are people just being overly
polite?

Sorry for wasting the bandwidth(length?) with this, but I often find
myself in the position of being able to quickly answer someones
question by sending them a copy of something someone else sent me,
but am nervous about it after seeing how some people react.

B.J.
From: neal@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jerry Neal)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: S-VHS connections
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:59:48 GMT
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Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Joseph_Jackson@transarc.com writes:

>I'd like to get a less biased view of the situation.  How much will
>quality be effected if I attach an IRD with only the traditional video
>and audio outputs?

Not very much, unless the video circuits of the Toshiba are a lot better
than the ones in your monitor.  S-Video connectors will offer an improvement
only in cases where the color and video information have been separate all
alone, as in a camcorder with S-video connectors.  Since NTSC has the two
combined during transmission, it doesn't matter much whether the color is
removed by the reciever or by the monitor on reception.  Maybe they've got
really GREAT filtering in that particular reciever.
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From: neal@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jerry Neal)
Subject: Re: LNA to LNB Upgrade
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:25:45 GMT

kincer@hagar.endicott.ibm.com (Mike Kincer) writes:

>A friend of mine is upgrading his system from an old LNA to a new IRD
>with LNB.  My question...can he use his existing cable or does he need
>at least new RG-6 coax.  I noticed a black coax and a white coax,
>one for 70 MHz signal and one for DC power.  He can't get DC to pass
>on the black coax to the LNB.  He gets DC on the white coax, but
>doesn't get any picture.  My guess is that the white coax is not
>75 ohm good quality coax and the signal poops out.  He's running
>200+ feet.  The feedhorn motor work fine as does the arm & motor.
>Any suggestions?

Even with RG-6, you're not going to get much more than 
100' without a booster amp at 1400 MHZ.  You will need a booster half way
down the line to keep from losing signal to the reciever.


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Subject: Re: CBC National & Journal Gone?
From: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 22:52:07 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Robert Smits

mgkuklinski@vms.macc.wisc.edu writes:

> It appears that the CBC has replaced Thhe National & The Journal with a new
> news program. CBC Primetime News. Is The National gone for good? I sure hope
> not. The National & The Journal where one of my main reasons for getting into
> Satellite Television.
> 
> Knowlton Nash Fan Club Member
> 
> Marc G Kuklinski
> Kuklinski@gandalf.physed.wisc.edu
> N9LHP
> 


Well, it's gone unless you can descramble Oak Orion signals. The National 
has been moved (sorta) to CBC Newsworld which is scrambled, and replaced 
by CBC Prime Time News which is on an hour earlier (9 PM local time).


emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca (Robert Smits Ladysmith BC)
From: rkobenter@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: y
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:48:32 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

re: Newsworld...

As has been mentioned the Journal is history, alas. But since B.Frums death
the show was not 100% the same in the eyes of the viewers. The National
in its new expanded form is not bad, the have added a sports and re-introduced
a weather segment. It is usually followed on the 1/2 hour by 15 minutes of 
BBC World Service News.

re: BBC, I am somewhat disappointed, there are no domestic BBC newscasts
just those lifted from the WSTV (still better than nothing...).

Also for Gary and the other fans of British comedy. I noticed last night
at 23:30 on CBUT Vancouver a new series, a 1/2 hour comedy show from
CHANNEL 4 /UK  something called ....DONKEY, about the ongoings in a 
Newsroom... highly praised. It will be on Wednesdays.

robert

PS: I am not a 'fan' of the new Primetime news on CBC at 9pm, I tend to 
look more to Newsworlds' National. What I miss from Newsworld is 
the Window on.. segments, where they used to lift regional newscasts
what they now have is 'Across Canada' which comes directly after the
BBC WS Newscasts after 7:45pm, 8:45, 9:45, 10:45pm.

rwkobent@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca

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From: CNTS12@email.mot.com (Mike Stevens)
Subject: TeleView in Elgin, IL gets busted
Organization: Motorola CSE
Distribution: rec.video.cable-tv
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:52:57 GMT

Last week in the Elgin, IL Daily Courier Newspaper an article got front 
page coverage 2 days in a row.

A company called Teleview got busted for selling modified cable tv boxes, it 
further stated satellite equipment was obtained in the raid as well.

It was of interest to note that two other locations in-(Beloit, WI and a 
place around O'hare got busted as well).

The Elgin Police along with the FBI took over 4000 modified boxes.  The 
article stated over the past 5 years that the company had made millions of 
dollars selling the boxes.  At last printing no one has been charged.

How can a company like that advertise in Popular Electronics and not expect 
to get caught?  Must be a loop hole in the system?

All records were siezed as well, it appears individuals who bought equipment 
may be charged as well.

I live within site of Jones Intercable's office and of Teleview, is worth 
being one of the individuals who get caught, in mine it is not!

I neither support or object to chipping, it's up to each individual on what 
to do.  Is GI playing fair, certainly not.

Not worth all the hassle of getting caught, when programming in my case 
costs only $ 200.00 a year with better service than any cable company in 
the world.  And to say the least of not damaging my professional career.

Keep in mind it's only my opinion. 

Mike
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:42:38 PST
From:         "Vijay Vaidyanathan" <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM>
Subject:      Whats the bandwidth of SCPC signals? (and other related Qns)

As some of you may know, I am building an SCPC receiver with
switchable bandwidth that will hook on to the 70 Meg loop ... If
it turns out to be a reasonable success, I plan to make it
available (assembled) to other folks who dont want to mess with
Soldering Irons and the like. The aim is to make sure that it
costs no more than $100, perhaps even of the order of $50. It will
have performance comparable with a TV Band receiver that has been
modified  to allow switchable bandwidths (hopefully!). If this
ever becomes reality, I have told Gary that I will probably send
him a prototype to play with on FNL.

Anyways, towards that end, I was going to order some Narrow Band
FM ceramic filters from DigiKey, and I noticed that they have
something new in their latest catalog. They are advertising
"Monolithic Crystal Filters" (10.7 meg). They have 2 types: 12.5
kHz and 25 kHz. In each variety, they have a 2 pole and 4 pole
version. They have very low insertion loss (1.5 and 2.5 db resp
for the 2 pole and 4 pole versions).

The Pass bandwidth for 25 kHz spacing is +/-7.5 kHz. Is this too
narrow?

Shall I just stick with the ceramic versions? They have various
b/w - 280, 230, 180, 150 and 110. I was planning on ordering the
180 and 110s for the switchable bandwidth.

- Vijay
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From: neal@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jerry Neal)
Subject: Re: Request Satellite Codes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:21:04 GMT

A LOT has happened since 1981.  

The Communications Act of October 1984 affirms the right of reception of
satellite signals by private individuals.  Scrambled signals are another
matter and unauthorized decoding of scrambled signals is prohibited.

So you can watch the Star Trek feeds as long as the syndicators do not see
fit to encrypt them.  If they do, and you recieve them with a chipped decoder,
then you are breaking the law.

When the VCII system was broken and a new and better system was to be
instituted, there was a lot of debate about who should pay for it.  Fortunately
for home viewers, the industry has paid for upgrading legitmate VCII modules,
a fact that I really appreciate since they sell for around $500.00 to those
who do not qaualify for a free upgrade.
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From: AllanWS@cup.portal.com (Allan BA Schlaugat)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 92 01:19:49 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <1992Nov4.214050.14105@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
  <1992Nov5.030302.1892@news.csd.sgi.com>

I have been having some problems with the audio on the ST:TNG
feeds but the video is clean and rich. The audio seems to be off
frequency a bit and by manually changing the left/right channels
on the audio, I am able to get the audio to sound OK but not as
good as it should.
I am reading with interest the problems that people are having with
the video; I have never come across any such problems on T1-9  though
G5 is giving me fits lately.. ;-)
My system: Perfect 10' mesh dish with 30 deg. LNB / HTS Tracker 10+
IRD located approx. 45deg N. Lat. 91deg W. Long. I have a clear shot at 
T1 at my location.

Allan Schlaugat 
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From: larson@loren.net.com (Alan Larson)
Subject: Re: How is the Star Trek feed quality at your location?
Organization: the wa6azp teleport
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:15:08 GMT

In article <9211051143.AA02392@lopez.marquette.MI.US> flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US (Gary Bourgois) writes:

>This is due to DRIFT as mentioned before.  T1 is out of station keeping fuel,
>no course corrections have been made in several months.  The satellite is now
>in inclined orbit


  I found this to be pretty interesting, so I took the most recent
availiable elements that were published here by Dr. Kelso, and ran
a day's worth of tracking for T301.  I used a program that allowed
me to determine the maximum span of it's drift.

  From this data, it doesn't look like it is drifting very much.
In fact, it drifts less than some good Ku satellites, where the
drift would be more noticable.


  Satellite          Long.      point one             point two         span
    name            (deg.)  ---az---  --elev--    ---az---  --elev--  (degrees)

SBS 2                97.01   -4.2870   96.9900      4.2868   97.0222    8.5738
RCA/SATCOM 5        105.38   -1.4933  105.3732      1.4932  105.3956    2.9866
ANIK C3 (TELESAT-5) 115.10   -1.1436  115.0707      1.1436  115.1387    2.2881
SBS 3                95.09   -1.0736   95.0711      1.0736   95.1061    2.1475
GALAXY 2             73.91   -0.0836   73.8892      0.0836   73.9294    0.1719
SATCOM KU-2          80.88   -0.0784   80.8524      0.0785   80.8988    0.1636
SPACENET 2           68.87   -0.0747   68.8507      0.0747   68.8833    0.1529
RCA/SATCOM 6 (F1R)  131.21   -0.0193  131.2792      0.0181  131.1343    0.1497
SATCOM KU-1          85.01   -0.0709   84.9992      0.0710   85.0193    0.1433
ANIK D2    ("F4")    81.94   -0.0656   81.9158      0.0656   81.9633    0.1395
ANIK E2             107.38   -0.0501  107.3982      0.0501  107.3699    0.1041
ANIK-E1             111.24   -0.0499  111.2308      0.0499  111.2414    0.1003
SATCOM 7 (F2R)       71.90   -0.0427   71.9112      0.0429   71.8836    0.0899
GALAXY 1            133.06   -0.0407  133.0463      0.0407  133.0685    0.0844
TELSTAR 3A (T-1)     96.00   -0.0408   96.0045      0.0407   95.9955    0.0820
ANIK C1             109.38   -0.0353  109.3889      0.0350  109.3596    0.0762



  A couple of years ago, there was a posting about problems with the
uplinking process.  I don't remember whether it was Keystone or
Paramount that was having problems, but perhaps there are similar
things now.  That would be consistent with imprecise subcarrier
frequencies.

	Alan
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From: andre@king.slc.mentorg.com (Andre' Hut)
Subject: C4 - Video off center?
Organization: /net/king/usr1/andre/.organization
Date: 13 Nov 92 10:24:38


I've noticed that in order to receive the video properly on Satcom C4,
I have had to tune the video about -22Mhz off center on each of the
transponders.  This seems real odd, and I wonder if I am doing something
wrong or what!?  Also, I've seen nothing on any of the even transponders.

Any clues?

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 12:29:00 CST
From:         "I'D RATHER BE FISHING THAN ON THE VAX" <REDLCW@FNAL.BITNET>
Subject:      Feeds

Sorry if this has already been posted,
Monday 12:00PM EST American Dective  T1-13
Monday 01:00PM EST Quantum Leap      T1-13

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