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From: ivan@cwi.nl (Ivan Herman)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Looking for a general threads package on UNIX
Date: 2 Sep 92 07:57:41 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

Sorry if this question has been asked before.


In view of a large scale European research programme, we are looking for
a (possibly PD) lightweight process (thread) package on UNIX. The idea
is to have a package which would allow us to run within a "traditional"
UNIX process a large number of lightweight processes. We are especially
looking for packages which are as environment-independent as possible,
and which would be reasonably easy to install on a new hardware/software
environment.

More specific requirements are:

   - The package should be usable from C (or should be a language
     extension of C);
   - the scheduler for lightweight processes should be preemptive;
   - it should be possible to start several hundreds
     of lightweight processes
   - there should be facilities to ensure that system calls,
     especially I/O, would not block the whole UNIX process; only
     the caller lightweight process should be internally suspended.


It is a real plus for us if:

   - The package should be usable from C++ as well (if not, we can
     always try to adapt it).
   - There is a mechanism which ensures that, from a programmer's point
     on view, there would be no difference between sending a message from
     one lightweight process to another within the same UNIX address space and
     between making a (hidden) RPC call to another object on another
     UNIX process.

We know that the terminology in this respect is not fully established and,
for some, lightweight packages and threads are different sort of animals.
No flames please.

We do have information and/or experience with AT&T's Concurrent C/C++,
Brown University's Thread Package and of Waterloo University uSystem and
uC++. We are looking however for more complete information.

We would prefer to receive answers by email, because I do not read all
the newsgroups addressed by this message. I am happy to post a overview
if anything of interest pops up. Thank you in advance.

Ivan Herman
             Centre for Mathematics & Computer Sciences (CWI),
             Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands.
             Email:ivan@cwi.nl, Tel: +31-20-592.4163
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From: nikki@trmphrst.demon.co.uk
Newsgroups: sanet.list.sco,gnu.misc.discuss,biz.sco.general
Subject: Configuring gdb for SCO Unix 3.2.2
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:38:33 GMT
Distribution: sanet
Organization: Trumphurst Ltd.
X-Conv: Automatic mail-->news conversion at olsa99


I am not sure to which group to post this, but here goes anyway ...

I have recently obtained GNU gdb 4.6 from ftp.uu.net, and I am trying to
get it going on SCO Unix 3.2.2. I have a number of minor problems ...

"config.sub sco" outputs "i386-unknown-scosysv322" - why the "unknown",
when the README states that "sco" is a valid value for "vendor" ?

I have gcc 1.39 (binaries only, kindly donated ages ago by a friend).

I ran "config sco", followed by "make", and got a nice binary, which even
runs, and will debug programs compiled with SCO cc.

However, it does not recognise core files. Also, it will not debug
programs compiled with gcc (including itself).

I had a little troll through the source directories, and found something
called bfd/sco-core.c. In the comments at the top, it said to include
"HDEFINES=-DSCO_CORE=1
HDEPFILES=sco-core.o"
in the "config/h-HOST" file.

Not finding such a file, I added these lines to config/mh-sco, did a
"make clean", and then "make".

Sadly, there was no improvement :-(

Can anyone point me in the right direction to get this working on SCO -
preferably recognising all kinds of core files, and debugging binaries
produced with both cc and gcc.

Please reply by mail, or to biz.sco.general, as I don't read the gnu
newsgroups regularly.
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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,news.groups
From: learn@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (William J. Vajk)
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Organization: Dares No Organization Like Dis Organization
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:16:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.192349.26133@bcrka451.bnr.ca> Rheal Nadeau writes:

>And AMWAY salesmen, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Mutlu, all feel that
>everyone should hear what THEY have to say.  (Fortunately, so far, only
>Mutlu has therefore decided to post everywhere - William, do you really
>want to join Mutlu as net.pest?)

Dear Rheal,

Mutlu is a narrow spectrum net.pest. If you cannot differentiate, let
alone understand what I stated was not in support of anything, then
I will gladly fit your pigeonhole so far as you are concerned and we 
need not bother one another, eh?

What is the difference between feeling everyone should hear your message,
Rheal, and feeling that some subset or "chosen few" should hear your
message?

The minute you post any article, you do so because you feel some group
should hear what you have to say. Where, in the realm, does one cross
the boundry between a subset, as you have done in crossposting, and the
"everyone" which seems to be "a bad thing" (tm.) ????

Bill Vajk

Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,news.groups
From: mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett)
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Organization: MV Communications, Inc.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 06:01:07 GMT

In article <CKD.92Sep2105324@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
> Or Cable & Wireless, or Joe & Bob's Fly-By-Nite
>Long Distance, or what have you.

Many of these are simply remarketers of AT&T or other network providers.
Your dollar to one of them may be 80 cents to the company you are trying
to avoid.

-mm-
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From: kjell@cse.ucsc.edu (Kjell Post)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: GDB for NT?
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:35:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu


	Is there a planned port of GDB to Microsoft's NT?

--Kjell
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: etnkna@hisoy2.etn.ericsson.se (Aksnes Knut-Havard)
Subject: Problems with CVS.
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AS
Distribution: gnu
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:23:58 GMT


Sometimes you want to reuse discarded filenames or files in a software
configuration.

I do want to reintroduce a file into a cvs repository. Cvs add does
not work if a file with the same name has been under cvs control in
the same directory before, and later been cvs deleted.  A file should
potentially have the possiblility to be moved several times between
active use and the attic. 




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From: mib@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Michael I Bushnell)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: GNU logo
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:46:54 GMT
	<1992Aug29.195108.23356@umr.edu>
Organization: Free Software Foundation, Cambridge, MA

In article <1992Aug29.195108.23356@umr.edu> mcastle@mcs213d.cs.umr.edu (Michael R Castle) writes:

   Is there anything at all like an official GNU logo??  You know,
   something to put on manuals, notebooks, bumper stickers, t-shirts
   that says "I support the GNU project, you should too" type of
   things.

Such a thing is actually in the works.  Our business cards will have
it, and we'll prabably make T-shirts as well.  Please don't deluge
people with requests until it's announced.

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From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Re: Looking for a compiled version of groff
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:58:07 GMT

In article <crudolph.715272617@seg7> crudolph@seg7.cigseg.rtsg.mot.com
(Chuck Rudolph) writes:

:Does anyone have a compiled version of groff that they are willing to
:share.  I need it on one of the following platforms:
:         Apollo DN4500 at SR10
:         HP730 at HPUX8.07

I believe a compiled version of groff for the HP 9000/700 series is
available for anonymous FTP from iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu.

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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
From: elliottm@beach.csulb.edu (Mike Elliott)
Subject: GNU Stuff on CD
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 05:43:17 GMT

I have heard a rumor to the effct that a large portion of GNU source has become
available on CD.  There seems to be no reference to this in the last GNU
Bulletin.  Is there any substance to this?
-- 


                                           Mike Elliott
                                           elliottm@beach.csulb.edu
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From: felix@laas.fr (Francois Felix INGRAND)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Adding figures handling to the Info format.
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:35:26 GMT
Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Distribution: gnu
Organization: LAAS-CNRS France


Is there any plan to add figures and pictures handling to the Info format. A
picture is worth pages of text... and I think that the Info format would
benefit of such addition.

Anyway, I have plan to add such facility to my Xinfo (Motif version) widget,
and I would like to know if somebody has done something similar first.

The quick way to do it is probably to just call a program such as xv or
xloadimage or a PS viewer (or whatever pictures viewer you use) when the user
click or select the picture (in Info mode). For the printed document, no
problem, there are enough packages around to include PS or whatever format in a
TeX/LaTeX document.

Any suggestions?
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Xref: sparky gnu.misc.discuss:2872 comp.org.eff.talk:5632 comp.unix.bsd:5009 comp.os.mach:1137 news.groups:17464
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,news.groups
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:36:48 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Taronga Park BBS

In article <MJB.92Sep1163324@oak7.doc.ic.ac.uk> mjb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Matthew J Brown) writes:
>IMHO this issue is only of much importance to computing professionals.

IMHO it's not. AT&T is effectively expanding intellectual property protection
in general. I personally believe that if they had made *some* of these claims
about 3 years ago, when Berkeley started large-scale source code releases,
they would have been justified. Other of their claims imply that if one has
had access to "protected" materials one can never work in that particular
industry again. Those claims are of interest to everyone.

I disagree with broadcast posting this sort of call to every group on other
grounds, but to claim that only computing professionals have an interest in
intellectual property laws is ridiculous.

>And don't try to tell me 'but this issue affects *EVERYONE*.' Perhaps
>it does, but so do infinitely many other issues.

Exactly.
-- 
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Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,news.groups
From: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee)
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University CS Dept.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:02:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.130800.14354@news.acns.nwu.edu> learn@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (William J. Vajk) writes:
>>First, it does not affect "all of us."  
>I am once again dismayed at the responses made by supposedly
>intelligent individuals to affairs which do indeed affect all
>of us. Perhaps some people simply don't se the connections.

An article about voting for a particular presidential candidate affects all of
us too.  Even if you're not a US citizen or resident, the US has enough
world-wide influence that which president is elected is probably going to have
some indirect on you.  Should such an article be posted to a thousand-odd
newsgroups?

Anyone can get heart disease.  Should I post articles about cholesterol in
gnu.misc.discuss because it affects "all of us" and so can go to every
newsgroup on the net?
--
"the bogosity in a field equals the bogosity imported from related areas, plus
the bogosity generated internally, minus the bogosity expelled or otherwise
disposed of."  -- K. Eric Drexler

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     INTERNET: arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,news.groups
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<MJB.92Sep1163324@oak7.doc.ic.ac.uk>
	<1992Sep2.134252.4475@Warren.MENTORG.COM>
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:53:27 GMT

Tom> == Tom Limoncelli <tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM> 

 Tom> A problem with boycotting AT&T long distance is that people will
 Tom> switch to MCI.  Doesn't anyone remember how they got their start?
 Tom> They were a pack of lawyers from DAY ONE.

There's always Sprint; heck, they've even heard of data networking
(they're selling IP service now, and they're a CIX member, not to
mention SprintNet).  Or Cable & Wireless, or Joe & Bob's Fly-By-Nite
Long Distance, or what have you.
--
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            ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep.
            Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master
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From: brtmac@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu (Brett McCoy)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,news.groups
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:03:59
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: inet
	<MJB.92Sep1163324@oak7.doc.ic.ac.uk>
	<1992Sep2.134252.4475@Warren.MENTORG.COM>
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In-reply-to: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM's message of 2 Sep 92 13:42:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.134252.4475@Warren.MENTORG.COM> tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli) writes:

>A problem with boycotting AT&T long distance is that people will
>switch to MCI.  Doesn't anyone remember how they got their start?  They
>were a pack of lawyers from DAY ONE.

So, go with Sprint, that's what I use.

++Brett;
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From: stdkap1@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu (Dietrich Kappe)
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Organization: Center for Population Economics
	<UecUwQO00iUz81B9Qv@andrew.cmu.edu> <1992Sep1.090548.8351@uhura1.uucp>
	<1992Sep1.130800.14354@news.acns.nwu.edu>
	<MJB.92Sep1163324@oak7.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Distribution: inet
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:46:57 GMT

In article <MJB.92Sep1163324@oak7.doc.ic.ac.uk> mjb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Matthew J Brown) writes:

[Much discussion of netiquette in theory and demonstration of same in
practice deleted]

So, Matt, is there any subject that would justify crossposting to all
newsgroups? I guess a nuclear holocaust would be cause enough, but
I'm sure an article on its impending arrival wouldn't be timely. :-)

How about it? Can we have a positive, constructive statement from your
quarter?

--

---
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kap1@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu
Center for Population Economics
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From: iiitac@PYR.SWAN.AC.UK (Alan Cox)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: GATT
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:56:39 GMT


Fortunately a lot of UK companies have been pointing out the patent
problem (well to be precise the we get their patents but we don't have
them here so its unfair side of it), and with any luck the patent issues
will get re-examined. Secondly I'm fairly sure that GATT in any form
if it went to a referendum as the maastrict treaty (european single market)
did  in some countries it will be thrown out by the people - amongst
other things the french farmers are very powerful. 

I guess we have to hope that GATT takes so long to negotiate that
the US ceases to be a credible world power (two dollars to the pound
and its rising 8-)) or has its much overdue revolution.

Alan
From: friedman@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Noah Friedman)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Photo-CD
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:13:54 GMT
Organization: Free Software Foundation, 675 Mass Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139
In-reply-to: iiitac@PYR.SWAN.AC.UK's message of 1 Sep 92 09:17:47 GMT

>In article <3713.9209010917@pyr.swan.ac.uk> iiitac@PYR.SWAN.AC.UK (Alan Cox) writes:
>Once more I'm glad I live in europe. At least here they _can't_ stop me
>disassembling their code and writing compatibility for it into programs

   They will if the UK agrees to the current wording of the General
Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT) with respect to intellectual
property.  Among other things, patent lifetimes will be extended to 20
years.  
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,news.groups
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 15:00:29 GMT

In article <BZS.92Sep3173209@ussr.std.com> bzs@ussr.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
>But you don't cure bad art by locking it all up in one museum, you
>cure it by throwing tomatoes at bad artists.

Thanks Barry, you just got me another quote for my .sig file.  :-)

--Dave
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From: rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu (The Terminally Bored)
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Followup-To: gnu.misc.discuss
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 15:55:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.151657.8362@news.acns.nwu.edu> learn@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (William J. Vajk) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.192349.26133@bcrka451.bnr.ca> Rheal Nadeau writes:
>
>>And AMWAY salesmen, Jehovah's Witnesses, and Mutlu, all feel that
>>everyone should hear what THEY have to say.  (Fortunately, so far, only
>>Mutlu has therefore decided to post everywhere - William, do you really
>>want to join Mutlu as net.pest?)
>
>Dear Rheal,
>
>Mutlu is a narrow spectrum net.pest. If you cannot differentiate, let
>alone understand what I stated was not in support of anything, then
>I will gladly fit your pigeonhole so far as you are concerned and we 
>need not bother one another, eh?


I must admit that I missed most of the beginning of this extended
conversation, but anyone who should not want to listen to what Bill has
to say then should have  a newsreader that supports kill files and then 
learn how to use it.  Frankly I couldn't care less where, when, or how 
many groups Bill posts to or uses to respond to someother person (I 
typically ignore about 90% of the posts in newgroups I read anyways),
but use of the Followup-To: header is considerred good net etiquette.


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From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:42:52 GMT

A problem with boycotting AT&T long distance is that people will
switch to MCI.  Doesn't anyone remember how they got their start?  They
were a pack of lawyers from DAY ONE.

Tom
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    a GUI builder could do." -Anonymous person watching demo of
         Solaris 2.0's graphical tool for managing NIS+
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From: nick@sunburn.uwaterloo.ca (Nick Fitzpatrick)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,news.groups
Subject: Re: AT&T Long Distance Boycott (was: BNR2SS, Mach, and The Lawsuit)
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:07:09 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <CKD.92Sep2105324@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>Tom> == Tom Limoncelli <tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM> 
>
> Tom> A problem with boycotting AT&T long distance is that people will
>
>There's always Sprint; heck, they've even heard of data networking

Enough already, we don't care.  This is certainly not relevent
in news.groups  and certainly not relevent in most countries of the
world, personally, I am quite happy using Bell Canada as my long 
distance carrier

Followups to misc.misc
From: grosen@isc.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (Johannes Grosen)
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: color postscript output
Keywords: groff
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:39:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20014
Organization: North Dakota State University

Researcher's at our site our currently using gpic to produce 'artwork'
appropriate for various uses. Recently, the idea of getting color
output was discussed and we are wondering if anyone has modified
gpic/groff to produce color output? Alternatively, can anyone suggest
other tools which are 'pic' like that support color postscript output?
We are also interested in any recommendations on good Postscript
programming references (in case we have to 'roll our own'!).

Thanks!
-- 
Johannes Grosen
ISC Group System Administrator
401E Minard Hall
North Dakota State University
(701) 237-8409
Newsgroups: gnu.misc.discuss,comp.sys.apollo,comp.sys.hp