From: Sid <ssowder@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
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>    F A Q     F I L E     F O R       A L T . S K I N H E A D S
> 
> Last Update:  4-5-1992
> Maintained by Sid (ssowder@silver.ucs.indiana.edu)
> 
> Purpose:
>   Alt.skinheads is a group designed to discuss the skinhead lifestyles
> (including music, dress, upcoming events, etc...) as well as beliefs,
> and issues which affect our community.  This is not a forum for
> political debate, sure most of us have our beliefs but take them to
> other groups to discuss.  Politics usually just aren't appropriate here.
> When we are in a good mood we let Mods in.  
>   
> Whats a Skin?
>   Well gosh we are still wondering about this ourselves right?
> Umm there are several different varieties I suppose.  Lets see...
> 
> 1) Ska Skins (or traditional skins)-  Most of us agree this is the original 
> skin.  Typical dress is Fred Perry shirts, loafers, "Pork Pie" hats,
> Italian suits etc....  Flight Jackets are a common sight now.  These folks 
> appeared in England when Jamican immigrants bought over their mix of 
> Rock and Reggae around 1967.
> 
> 2) Oi Skins- A transitional breed between traditional skins and
> boneheads.  Usually dress alot like the traditionals exchanging boots
> with colored laces for loafers.  Braces and flight jackets are real 
> populare here.  These folks are usually nationalists, but not to the
> extreme of bonehead delusion.  Oi started back in the late seventies 
> with bands like The Cockney Rejects, Angelic Upstarts, Red Alert, Slaghter 
> and the Dogs, Barny and the Rubbles, Splogenesabounds (sp?) the Exploited and 
> in the eightes came bands like The Last Resort, The 4 Skins, Buissness, 
> Cock Sparer etc...
>    Bands that inflence the Oi scene would be, Stiff Little Fingers, Sex 
> Pistols, Madness, Specials, the Beat, the Jam, Motorhead. All types of music. 
> It involves all types of music from Ska, Punk, Hardcore, Sing a long, Comedy. 
> Its your typical working class have a good time type of music. 
> 
> 3) Boneheads-  This is what ABC will have you believing all skins are.
> This are hatebreeders who are white power or seperatists.  Cause alot of
> striff in ANY scene and should be shot.  Swastica's and other bullshit 
> follow, if you have any info on these tiny brained doo-doo heads let us
> know. :)  Music could be any really... 
> 
> 4) S.H.A.R.P. skins (SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice)-  Okay these
> guys (and gals) seem to be a bit hard and heavy.  Certainly always in
> action, but tatics are to be questioned.  They don't seem to be to
> selelctive with their violent methods.  This is really a cross-section
> of Mods, Traditionals, Ois etc...
> 
> 5) Other folks you might find in here.  Well Mods similiar to the
> tradition skins. Good MOD bands are Television, the Kinks, The Who and
> the Jam. Em says go watch QUADROPHENIA to find out more.  :)  Alot of
> Punks floating around too, for more info on that join the punk list
> (North America punk-list-request@cpac.washington.edu everywhere else 
> punk-list-request@cs.tut.fi)  Concerned Mothers are another group that
> pop up in here.  Frequent quotes are "My son just shaved his head...."
> Little information is known about this creatures.  Lurkers- People who
> have never posted but we know read this group.  Who knows why, lately we
> have learned many joined to see if we were really racist nazis and stuck
> around because they once heard a MADNESS song and didn't know how to
> catagorize it... "Our house in the middle of the street...."
> 
> Racsim:  This group certainly isn't rascist and if you joined this group 
> looking for info or literature concerning white-power or the such, call 
> your local David Duke for President campaign headquarters.  Skinheads
> were originally Jamican's and later white British who despite racial
> difference enjoyed and bonded through their common love of the Ska sound.
> What could be more anti-rascist(*question mark*)
> 
> Important Anti-racist addresses:
> 
> John Brown Anit-Klan Commitee
> 2220 9th Street #443
> San Fransico, CA 94103
> (415) 330-5263
> 
> A.R.A.
> P.O. Box 87471
> Minneapolis MN 55408
> 
> S.H.A.R.P.
> P.O. Box 56956
> Sherman Oaks, CA 91413
> 
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> Phew finially some information about things discussed recently:
> 
> Madness is appearently getting back together with the ORIGINAL line up.
> Television is also getting back together, line up unknown.
> Best places to by your Doc Marten's?  
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> ANSWER:
> 
> You asked where to get Doc Martens....well, where I get all of my shoes
> is at Nana's in SF.  They also have a mail order catalog.  But if you
> are in SF [they are also in Santa Monica, and probably in NY, I don't 
> know] pick some up....adn if you are really lucky as _I_ was [feeling a
> bit superior ha!--naah just lucky since I only stay in SF 3 weeks out of
> the year, during the summer.] you may catch their sales...and when I say
> sale I mean sale!! 
> 
> Some boots that I paid 55 bucks for [120 bucks in Hawaii--shipping charges?
> I think not...just damned greedy] the year before - and were still regular
> prices when I arrived in SF - were suddenly 20 bucks, a few days before I
> was to depart.  Heh!  There were like more than half of the stuff on sale.
> 
> They occasionally have sales that have prices of some slashed up to 75%.
> That is during their clearance sales, though...I used to get postcards
> here [in Hawaii] advertising sales and that was so heart/gut wrenching
> seeing the sales...I am glad I am off the list now..!! ha.
> 
> The address, just looked it up in <cringe> Creem {what a rip, they did
> not send me the promised CD adn only sent me two issues and i paid for
> a one year subscription a year ago..the first and the last issues, I guess}
> 
> Phone no:  
> Santa Monica:  213 394 9690
> San Francisco: 415 861 6278
> New York:      212 496 2955
> 
> For catalog send $2.00 to:
> Na Na Dept. Cr.
> 1228 3rd Street
> Santa Monica, CA  90401
> 
> Mail order info:
> 1 800 347 4728
> 
> Wholesale info:
> 213 394 5305
> 
> quote on the ad:
> "Genuine Na Na Dr. Marten 8 eyelet boots also available at : Hot topic - So.
> Calif; Robert Wayne - LA; Broadway Cobbler - NYC; & more from coast to coast"
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> Ska shows are all over the place except Indiana.
> Yes we have all heard Operation Ivy, and Mighty Mighty Mighty Bosstones.
> Op Ivy is having a live 7" out soon. (not on lookout)
> We are lead to believe Skankin' Pickle and Bad Manners rule.
> Why all the German Crosses?
>   *WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER HERE*
> Is everyone here bald?  Certainly not.  And Vanilla Ice IS not a skinhead.
> Em is one incredible babe, but she is mine.
> Not all bald folks are skinheads some are just bald.
> Where is Oi! come from (the word not the music)
> 
> Oi! is plan and simple, it comes from the commom usage of the Cockney
> (London) accent. Oi John, Oi mate, Oi get me a pint you dirty mother fucker
> and so on. Way back in 1982 the Skinheads in New York tried to set up Yo! 
> it lasted a couple of years but didnt get of the ground.
> 
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> -- 
> Sid      ssowder@indiana.edu      WQAX/PO BOX 2593/Bloomington IN 47402
> 
> "The next person who picks up a shoe and thinks of chucking at me, why 
> don't you just like wack yourself in the mouth, and smile. It's much more 
> fun for me. Or alternatively, ask me if you can come up on stage, give me
> the shoe, and I'll throw it in your face." - Robert Smith
> 


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Sid      ssowder@indiana.edu      WQAX/PO BOX 2593/Bloomington IN 47402

"The next person who picks up a shoe and thinks of chucking at me, why 
don't you just like wack yourself in the mouth, and smile. It's much more 
fun for me. Or alternatively, ask me if you can come up on stage, give me
the shoe, and I'll throw it in your face." - Robert Smith