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From: g.myint-maung@fs4.mbs.ac.uk (Guy Myint-Maung)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: SO
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:54:33 GMT
Organization: Manchester Business School

Ive been following the board from here in the raintown of Manchester.
Would somebody please tell me what "flaming" is, and also what "SO" is.

Thanks in advance, now I'll be able to expand my dictionary of words that 
supposedly exist in the English language.

regards Guy
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: sockeyd@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: hunting high and low
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:57:09 GMT

hey I'm  looking for a friend of mine...
if any one knows laurence mcilhoney.. please write to me...
thanks


Robin Hawkins




Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: g91a2724@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR GJ ANDREWS)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: romantic ideas wanted
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:03:27 GMT
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa


My lover and I are going to be spending  time together this vac for the 
first time in a long while. I'd like to spoil her with some fun/soppy 
whatever excursions. So if you have any ideas I'd like to hear.

Thanks
Greg
Xref: sparky alt.romance:13880 alt.personals:22028
From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.personals
Subject: Re: WANTED: REWARD OFFERED
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:27:27 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

hhamid@nyx.cs.du.edu (hassan  hamid) writes:

>If you are a woman aged 17-24, 5'4"-5'9" tall, with beautiful eyes, good
>figure, pretty face, and a blonde or brunnete with softly permed hair,
>then let me KNOW THAT YOU EXIST AND ARE READING THIS MESSAGE. I LOVE YOU.
>HOPE TO HEAR FROM YOU SOON.

Um, this is an alt.meatmarket message, methinks.

>---HASSAN.
-- 

Wulf                    |"Hackers do it bit by bit -
jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu | programmers do it top-down!"
From: s206001@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: raising children
Date: 13 Nov 92 09:34:31 GMT

In article <ewright.721346941@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
> In <2AF80F2A.22348@news.service.uci.edu> cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
> 
>>Out of ALL of the people in school I am close to, I
>>and ONE OTHER PERSON are the only people to grow up in normal families.
>>Everyone else?  Two alcoholic parents, one religious fundie, 
> 
> Ordinarily, anecdotal evidence doesn't prove very much, but in
> this case you have shown that someone from a "normal family" 
> can grow up to be a religous bigot.

I agree except that I would have added social bigot aswell alcoholism etc may
be a nasty side of life but that doesn't mean that they don't merit some form
of respect as human beings.
From: stone@cwis.unomaha.edu (Travis Stone)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Help Needed
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:36:29 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha



Take the advice of someone who has "fished from the wrong side
of the riverbank" (i.e., has gotten involved with a married person):

DON'T.

You'll be better off in the long run by simply forgetting that other
person---and you can rest assured, that other person will be doing
the same thing.

In other words: FORGET IT.
Xref: sparky alt.romance:14065 alt.callahans:13642
From: s206001@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Why I don't use the word "Love" very much
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:21:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.114740.783@midway.uchicago.edu>, mbr2@quads.uchicago.edu (Curious Of All Natures
> is for me is the feeling I get when I cut my fingernails."  Love is
> generally about a person, and can be distinguished from other big
> emotional words, like sadness and sinus pain.  But this category is
> simply too vague to do the work to which this poor word is put in our
> society.
I'm not sure I agree with the sinus pain and fingernails but the rest sounds
about right.
> 	So, I don't use the word love all that much.  Instead I say
> something complex and creative that's very me, or I write a poem, or I
> do something that, coming from me, is very loving.
Exactly you're expressing your own way of saying what 'love' is without using
a word you feel is bandied about too easily..

> If there were spontaneously occurring soapboxes in this newsgroup, I'd
> be scaling my way down from them at this point.
It had to be said at some point besides we all need our time on the soap box :)

> -Matt Ryan, this is the kind of thing philosophy will do to you,
Only if you find it within yourself to rise to the challenge of questioning
which usually begins with oneself..

Irene.
From: alex@mentor.cc.purdue.edu ( )
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: LDR Contest!
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:19:44 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Nov6.200002.12682@Virginia.EDU> kmc8z@Virginia.EDU ("***** Tina C *****") writes:
>well...i can't do the longest distance...
>
>but how about the longest TIME....
>
>we haven't been in the same state for more than 2-3 months
>since august 1988.
>
>:*(
>
>tina c
>


Well, we're no that bad, by my girlfriend and I have been dating
for seven months, and we've seen each other, maybe two of those.

                                                          -Alex
Xref: sparky alt.romance:13832 soc.singles:30197 alt.sex:35460 alt.pagan:12611
From: cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: raising children
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,alt.sex,alt.pagan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:38:26 GMT

In article <ewright.721346941@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>In <2AF80F2A.22348@news.service.uci.edu> cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
>
>>Out of ALL of the people in school I am close to, I
>>and ONE OTHER PERSON are the only people to grow up in normal families.
>>Everyone else?  Two alcoholic parents, one religious fundie, 
>
>Ordinarily, anecdotal evidence doesn't prove very much, but in
>this case you have shown that someone from a "normal family" 
>can grow up to be a religous bigot.

I was talking about their PARENTS.  The woman who grew up with a
repressive, fundie mother has for most of her life been struggling
against it and trying to get in touch with herself.  It has soured her
greatly against any form of organized religion.

Blessings,
Janis
From: stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: what i'm looking for
Date: 9 Nov 92 07:34:04 GMT
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia

Frank somebodyorother (Sorry, didn't catch the name and I haven't worked
                       out how to quote!)
wrote...

> It seems that when I romanced women, they didn't know how to handle it.

Yeh, I've struck that problem myself. I had a SO once who I (like all of
my SOs) bought little presents, flowers and stuff for. I opened doors, the
whole bit. You know what I got? First she said she felt I was trying to buy
her love... and then the world's greatest quote...

   "You're the nicest guy I know but I never want to see you again..."

Work that out! (What did Ralph and Kermit say? "You can't live with em"?

(OK, out of cynical mode!)

Or another who never made it as far at the presents stage. Every time I
opened a door she'd snatch it out of my hand and give me a dirty look.
She ain't my SO anymore either.

(Oh, I know I'm not doing it wrong, there have been others who love the
same treatment.)

So, has anyone any clues? I can't work it out... (Though, methinks we won't
find any ladies in *this* newsgroup who *don't* like what I've just 
described... am I right?)

Oh, and another thing. There *definitely* are ladies who *do* like to
be romanced, God bless 'em. You've just got to look a bit harder... :-)
Thank-you girls who do! Meeting one of you is the most wonderful thing
that can happen to a guy <smiles>...

And Frank, for you, I quote Richard Bach who says...

  "You are never given a wish without also being given the power
   to make it come true...."

          "You may have to work at it however."

Good luck my friend.

stuartb, a psuenodym :-)

-- 
"Somebody thought of it                 #    "I do not agree with what you say
 And someone believed it                #     But I will fight to the death for
 And look what it's done so far"	#     your right to say it"
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Opinions posted here are mine and do not necessarily comply with those of CSIRO
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: zyang@nyx.cs.du.edu (Zhaohui Yang)
Subject: Re: LDR Contest!
Keywords: LDR future fate forever
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 10:03:42 GMT

scott@ssvs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tom Scott) writes:

>I'm more a reader than a writer, but here's a quick start for a thread:
>Who's got the longest? (Oops, obsede', that sounds like alt.sex material)

>Some lines I've noticed since finding a.r:
>mvb@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael V. Barreca) says:
>>Great, now I'm depressed. (my girlfriend lives 300 miles away)
>stuarta@syd.dms.csiro.au (Stuart Andrews) says:
>>She live in Melbourne, Australia, and I in Sydney, Australia
>>A separation of some 750 kilimetres. If that isn't a LDR,
>>nothing is :-)

Well, My roommate is from china, and this month's phone bill is $302. *sign*

Yang
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                                        Tel(814)863-7056
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: eomiya@borland.com (Elliot Omiya)
Subject: Re: LDR Contest!
Originator: eomiya@genghis.borland.com
Keywords: LDR future fate forever
Organization: Borland International, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:23:42 GMT

I'm in N. Cal., SO is in Tuxtla Gutierrez, Chiapas, Mexico, the very
southern end.  It's not 5,000 miles but it's more than 3,000.  Last phone
bill, $428.

-=<EHO>=-

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow)
Subject: Re: Does Anyone Get over Being Lonely
Reply-To: dks@srhqla.UUCP (Dave K. Sprow)
Organization: Silent Radio, Los Angeles
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:41:32 GMT

In article <1dn3ohINN85u@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa762@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Babinsky) writes:
>
>It has been 2 months and 10 days since my girlfriend of 3 and a
>half years has broken up with me.  After begging and pleading and
>even calling her about 4 weeks ago (like a dummy), I was wondering
>if you ever get over feeling lonely or missing that special 
>someone to share life with?
>
Yes, but only if you stop contacting her for a lenghty period of time.
Sound like you'r doing that.  Good. Give yourself a pat on the back.
When you're going through the quite normal grieving process (which you
are from what you say), you need to give yourself *lots* of time to
heal (get over it) and feel some zest for life again.  Most "experts"
say that the typical time period is six months to a year.  That's
after the grieving has begun.  When a person cotacts a person who
they are grieving about, they just prolong the time before healing
can begin. It's like a bad burn or something that is just starting
toi scab over to heal, and that person coming along and ripping
off the scab.  And this will happen *every* time you have contact
with them.  Hey, I shoul know, I've done it the hard way often enough :-)

A good book on this is "How To Survive The Loss of a Love".  One of
the co-authors is Peter McWilliams.  Don't remember the other. But
it's pretty-well known.  Most bookstores would be familiar with it(and
have it).  I'd suggest it.  It describes in detail all the various stages
of grieving, with lots of helpful suggestions on what to do at each
stage. It's an "encouraging" treatise on a very painful process we
all go through at some point.

Good luck and hang in,

David S>
From: bzb47596@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Phaedrus)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: fliriting and not knowing it (was: Re: Question For Guys)
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:25:58 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Kyle,
you bring up an interesting point, i too have been flirted with and only found
out about it later.  sometimes it was things i should have picked up on, but
most of the time it was things i don't think i would EVER have interpreted as
advances, even if i was attracted to the person.   sometimes, i never even
found out EXACTLY what the other person was doing as far as flirting.  this
all, of course, makes it hard for me to realize when someone IS interested,
when they MIGHT be interested, and how to get across the fact that I AM
interested.

HELP!!!!

l8r
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna)
Subject: Re: What kind of flowers?
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:18:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.065744.14161@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> rllai@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Roberto L. Lai) writes:
>A female friend is having her 21st birthday soon, and I've decided to
>send her flowers.  Now, I know red roses mean love, and white friendship,
>but there are more -- does anyone out there know the rest?  She knows
>deep down I'm crazy about her, so if I send her all red roses she won't
>freak out or anything, but I'd like to mix other colors or flowers in
>so the flowers would be more personal and interesting.  Cost won't
>be a factor, but she's not the type who'd be impressed by price-tags.
>
>Any suggestions?
>
>

Yellow roses mean friendship, pink roses mean "i like you" from what I know.
A bunch of mixed carnations would be nice too - I know I like them!

Hope that helps!

Smiles!

=) *hug* (= *hug* =) *hug* (= *hug* =) *hug* (= *hug* =) *hug* (= *hug*
*   Life is too short not to share your hugs and smiles!              *
*      Keep smiling! =)                                               *
*   Dawna MacIvor  Waterloo, Ontario, Canada                          *
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=) *hug* (= *hug* =) *hug* (= *hug* =) *hug* (= *hug* =) *hug* (= *hug*

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Subject: Re: Attention Advice Givers (ie HELP)
Keywords: advice, help, problem,
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 92 23:01:17 GMT

In article <Bx6F6q.n4J@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Richard Lamb) writes:
>
>Situation : Ok I met this girl over the net. 
....
>
>The point : What I need help with is this. 
>	1) Do I try to "push" the relationship? 
>
No. The only pushing you should do is to get her to spend more time
with you, and this should be gentle. Any more pushing will raise her
resistance to you and so be counterproductive.

>                                                Do I want to try to
>steer the relationship toward what I want from it or do I let it float?
>
A relationship is not a car. You don't steer it, you lead it. You should
have an idea of which direction you want the relationship to go so that
you can gently nudge it that way.

>Should I try to find out (hints, roommate, etc) how she feels about me
>first? 
>
No. Asking her is a bad idea (it puts pressure on her), and finding out 
indirectly will tend to make you think you know more than you do. 
Don't worry too much about how she feels right now, the idea is 
to try to gently lead her towards feeling love for you.

>       Should I give it more time?
>
Yes. Give *her* more time. If you don't pressure her, time will be on
your side.  Assume that she is undecided about you, and give her time
and incentive to decide in your favor.

>	2) If I decide to pursue the relationship, how do I go about it?
>Do I want to let her know exactly how I feel, or do I just ask her out
>on a formal date? Or there other options I haven't considered? Does any-
>one know? Is this girl driving me insane (possibly)?
>
Well, no one knows for sure, but I have heard a lot of testimonials in
this newsgroup attesting that telling her exactly how you feel at this
stage of the relationship is a bad idea.  It would pressure her into
deciding between jumping into a more serious relationship, or dumping
you. Unless she is ready to get involved (unlikely at this stage), she
will choose to dump you. And you don't want that.

I would suggest you do whatever you can to spend time with her in a 
comfortable and unhurried manner. Informal dates would be better than
formal dates. At this stage of the relationship, you shouldn't be trying
to prove that you love her, or even hint at it. You should be trying to 
get to know each other better, and to convince her that you are a good
guy, that the two of you can get along, and that you are not in a rush
to make her do something she is not ready to do.

>	3) Is there anyone who has been through this and tried one thing
>or another? Did it work or fail? 
>
Well, I lost a few girls by trying to pressure them into dating before
they were sure about me. I have found it easier to get women to open up
to me since I learned not to press. But success to me would be getting
married, so from my point of view, I am still working on getting it 
right.

>	4) Anything else you just want to tell me. I love free advice.
Have fun and don't be in a rush.

Good Luck,
Michael.
From: CE42@lafibm.lafayette.edu (CE42000)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Childish Guys
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:16:15 GMT
Organization: Lafayette College
Originator: news@lafcol

In article <1da3goINN3ah@agate.berkeley.edu> bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan) writes:
>See emily's post (forgot to quote)...
>So, when is a person supposed to be serious when he/she is normally/
>naturally non-serious?  For example, most of my friends seem to like
>me because I always seem to take things non-seriously (seem is the
>key word here)  I'm generally the happy-go-lucky type, though some
>things taht are serious do 'hit' me as being serious.  However, is
>there really a way to gauge when to be serious and when to be normal?

This my friend, is learned through growing-up.  Thus the difference
between being childish and non-childish.
Granted, it is something that you will learn on your own, but with most
people, it comes to them eventually.  As for those that never learn to
distinguish between the times it is ok to be "happy-go-lucky", and the
times when a more serious tone is required, there may be some other
reason they cannot deal with reality.

>As the original poster asked (I think it was his qwuestion) is there
>some way of knowing when to be serious wihtout seeming fake?
>Thanks

If you are genuine, it is not fake. That's all there is too it.
Stop being so insecure.  The key is to go with your feelings.
People will trust your sincerity unless you give them a reason not to.

Emily
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: Sun,  8 Nov 1992 22:03:12 -0500 
From: Timothy James Davison <td1k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: letters, opinions, women, romance
	<1dkg97INNdrt@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

One problem I have with letter and writing in general, is that often you
lose some of the tone of the msg.  If someone sends an e-mail msg that
is jokingly insulting, you can't see the smile on the person's face who
is writing it.  If I jokingly insult someone I almost always have a big
smile on my face and the person just has to look at me and know that I'm
doing it out of affection.  

	As for being able to think about what you  want to write, I often have
trouble sitting down and thinking about only one thing,  whereas if I'm
talking I am forced to think about that one thing (or a couple of
things) and I might forget to say everything I would like to, but that
can come up in another conversation.  In letter, I end up reading too
much into each word that is used.  that can be very bad.  In talking it
is almost always a two- way conversation, in a letter you are giving
your side to someone and let them respond afterwards.  Makes it much
more difficult to clarify things.  Asking questions is out with letters.
 

	So, my vote goes to talking instead of writing if possible.  I admit
that might not be possible in every situation.  Speaking of writing, I
know that I did not experess myself totatly accurately in this msg,
partly because I'm not a good writer, and partly because it's not a
two-way communication.  I'd be willing to clarify anything I tried to
express in this msg if you'd  like.

Take care all.

Tim
From: QTB100@psuvm.psu.edu (CUONG BUI)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Becoming attracted to friends
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:40:51 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Hi! I'm Dr. "Ruth"  I read that you are attracted to your friend, if you want
to find out whetther you have a chance with her, the first step is asking
her to go out with you, I assure you that this will not effect your relation-
ship with her as a friend , although she may be seeing someone else that
doesn't meanthat she is "married".  Give it a try, if she says yes, then
you have a 30-50% chance in the future, if she says no, don't worry, if
you believe in destiny you will find your true love someday, if she says
maybe tell her "see you later alligator".
Good Luck!
P.S:  This is not my writing, it was a friend of mine, so dont blame me for
anything bad that happen :)
Oh yeah, and if it works out, thanks for me it :)