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From: d89johbe@odalix.ida.liu.se (Johan Berntsson)
Subject: Re: Tyr,Odin,Thor,Frey?
Keywords: weekdays
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:50:32 GMT

karttu@mits.mdata.fi (Antti Karttunen) writes:

... stuff deleted ...

>Now, if I remember right, Germanic gods Tiw, Woden, Thor and Frigg
>somehow have the similar roles as Roman gods Mars, Mercurius, Jupiter
>and Venus, but of course I might be wrong too. (Is Frigg same as Fre(i)ja?).


>-- 
>Antti Karttunen       --  $B%"%s%C%F%#!!%+%k%C%H%%%M%s(J  (et{ty|t|n)
>karttu@mits.mdata.fi  --  Apatheist, although not particularly proud of it.

There are similarities between Woden and Jupiter, Tiw and Mars. Frigg was
Woden's wife and can't be compared to Venus. Freya/Fre(i)ja was the godess
of Love, a nordic Venus in some sence.

-------------------------
Johan Berntsson
d89johbe@und.ida.liu.se



From: smyers@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (steven myers)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:40:30 GMT
Subject: Re: NameDay (Was: translation wanted)
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic

/ hpdmd48:soc.culture.nordic / ksavolai@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi /  8:53 am  Aug 20, 1992 /
> 
> Exactly what 'nameday' means I don't really know. Probably a remnant from
> a belief that each deity/saint had their own day or some such.
> 
> Reidar
> --
> Correct spelling is a lossed art.   |Hagar: So if people ask you, tell them
> Skydivers have more fun than people.|              you're a viking.
> ------------------------------------|Frode: And a Norwegian?
> radar@cs.kl.ac.uk                   |Hagar: Nah. That might sound like bragging.


+In Finnish calendar every single day is dedicated for someones name. Only
+first of January is date that's nobodys nameday. Have any other countries
+that kind of namedays? (according to previous text it seems that there's 
+namedays also in Norway).


Sweden also has name days.

		Steve M.
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From: valtaoja@sara.cc.utu.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Travel to Helsinki-Stockholm
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:50:43 GMT
Organization: University of Turku, Finland

In article <1992Sep3.150120.25415@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pbaker@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paula C Baker) writes:
> 
> I would also appreciate advice on the best and cheapest way to get from
> Helsinki airport to the University and from Helsinki to Turku (train or bus?) 
> Thanks for your help.

Just take the "Finnair" airport shuttle to central Helsinki (Railway station).
If you really want to save money (2-3 dollars cheaper), there are slower
ordinary buses. By the way, there is no such place as "the University" in
Helsinki; it's spread all over the city, but our capital is so small you can
probably walk to wherever you are going.

Train and bus Helsinki-Turku are about equally fast (2+ hours) and cheap (20
USD), and run almost hourly - no reservations needed. I would recommend taking
the bus; the countryside is beautiful (if the weather permits) and shows
typical Southern Finland landscape at its best.

There are no special events in Turku at this time, but if material culture,
history and folklore interest you, go to the central market square
("Kauppatori") in the morning, and visit the "Luostarinm{ki" outdoors museum
(the only part of Turku which did not burn down in 1820's).

Bon voyage,

Esko Valtaoja
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: bryn@cs.toronto.edu (Bryn Owren)
Subject: Re: Santa Poll - now closing! 
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: soc
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:32:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.175551.28432@gvl.unisys.com> armagan@prc.unisys.com writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.091103.18696@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>, qvortrup@inf.ethz.ch (Michael Qvortrup) writes:
>|> OK, the informal Santa Poll is comming to an end (no replies have
>
>I say  d) Turkey

Nope,..... That is what we serve him, when he drops by... :)
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
> ARMAGAN A. OZDINC
> Paramax Systems, Valley Forge Labs, Research and Development
>________________________________________________________________

Bryn
From: reykja@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Reykja Sigurdsson)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:19:37 GMT
Subject: whoops
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic

Hi -- 

      


Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: armagan@sassafras (Armagan Ozdinc)
Subject: Re: Santa Poll - now closing! 
Reply-To: armagan@prc.unisys.com
Organization: Paramax Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:55:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.091103.18696@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>, qvortrup@inf.ethz.ch (Michael Qvortrup) writes:
|> OK, the informal Santa Poll is comming to an end (no replies have
|> arrived over the weekend), so I think it is time to close it.
|> 
|> Just a refresher (for those who still might want to participate).
|> The question was:
|> 
|> Where do you believe Santa Claus lives:
|> 
|> 	a) North Pole
|> 	b) Greenland
|> 	c) Finland
|> 	d) Some other place, please specify.
|> 	e) Unspecified

I say  d) Turkey

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 Paramax Systems, Valley Forge Labs, Research and Development
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: johnson@sleipnir.mnesouth.corp.mot.com ("Johnson")
Subject: Aesir and Vanir
Reply-To: johnson@sleipnir.mnesouth.corp.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Wireless Enterprises, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:07:30 GMT
Keywords: Aesir Vanir

In article <1992Aug29.190731.26124@u.washington.edu>, mimir@milton.u.washington.edu (Al Billings) writes:
=)In article <13818@chalmers.se> d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell) writes:
=)>
=)>  How about the conflict when a standard celtic (Freya&Co have always seemed
=)>to handle more celtic 'subjects' than the Aesir to me) religion was replaced
=)>with the Aesir in Scandinavia (and bordering areas). Conflicts can (and do)
=)>happen inside a culture, especially when some people are trying to push a 
=)>new religion.
=)
=) That is just my point. It is not believed anymore that the two families
=)of gods come from two seperate people. The Wanes were not from one and the
=)Aesir were not from another. They were part of the beliefs of the same
=)invaders, not a set of invaders and already present locals. From what I
=)recall from my readings, there are too many parallels with other
=)Indo-European cultures which show the Wanes to not be unique in their roles.
=)
I wasn't trying to imply that the conflict between the religions was due
to an invasion or even that it was violent, just that there were two
separate religions which merged into one.  I'm sure there are other
theories that I haven't heard, but I'm interested.  What is the "current"
thinking on the subject?  It's my understanding that, while many pagan
religions acknowledge the validity of others (although maintaining
differences on who the most powerful gods are), it's fairly rare for
a single system to have two distinct races of gods coexisting and having
reasonably equal power.  What are the various explanations of this?  And
BTW, how does the cosmology explain the origins of the Vanir?  I've never
quite been clear on that; they don't seem to be descended from Buri.
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Subject: Re: Santa Poll - informal (Re: Greenland claiming residence of Santa Claus)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:46:05 GMT


>qvortrup@inf.ethz.ch (Michael Qvortrup) writes:

>>[There was a conspicious abscence of smileys in the original post.
                                _____
Whoops!  Forgot the Smiley:D   / o o \
                              / <___> \
                              \  V    /
                               \_____/     

>>Where does Santa Claus live according to the tradition you were brought
>>up with?

>>	d) Some other place, please specify.

Come to think of it, the Answer could be d)

i.e. - Trondheim, Norway

Last August, I enjoyed a magnificent _reindeer steak_ in the restaurant
just south of Nidaros Cathedral.  Upon leaving the restaurant, I
tripped on a cobblestone, and went soaring over the city, eventually
landing in Reine on the Lofoten Islands.

This was not a little suspicious.  ;>


Mike Jittlov - "The Wizard of Speed and Time" & Disney escapee
Hollyweird, USA  *** complaints:  jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu
From: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Location of Santa Claus
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:02:17 GMT
Reply-To: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Organization: SINTEF, Norwegian Institute of Technology

In article <0095FAA6.3BA0D940@vax.nott.ac.uk>, cczjtw@vax.nott.ac.uk (John Whitehorn) writes:
|> 
|> I would like to add a little to the debate to the home of Santa Claus
|> 
|> In the last few years I visited the "home" of Santa Claus in a) Rovaniemi,
|> Finland and b) SantaWorld in central Sweden (don't have map with me, and
|> can't remember town name)
|> 
|> Well at the Rovaniemi site there was a IBM PC
|> 
|> DONATED BY IBM TO SANTA CLAUS
|> 
|> If an organization the size of IBM are prepared to acknowledge the fact that
|> he exists and lives in Finland, I think Finland must be his true home!
|> 
|> 	John Whitehorn
|> 
--


Oh, that's where I mislaid my IBM

Santa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: bamse@IASTATE.EDU (Sten M Thernelius)
Subject: Vattenfestivalen
Reply-To: bamse@IASTATE.EDU (Sten M Thernelius)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 19:41:06 GMT




   God Dag,

       Tankte hora om nagon skulle kunna beratta hur vattenfestivalen
   fortlopte i Stockholm.  Var antalet besokare stort?  Var fyrverkerierna
   i samma klass som i fjol?  Blir det ngt nasta sommar?

   
      Tack pa forhand,
      
                Magnus Thernelius
                aerospace engineering


   P.S.  Rakar ngn veta om det finns ngt satt att fa nyheter fran 
         Sverige over datorn?     
                                D.S.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: sveini@mack.uit.no (Svein-Ivar Lillehaug)
Subject: Re: Emailing Ice Land
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:30:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.180627.12755@lth.se> kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson) writes:
>einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason) writes:
>>In <mad-celt.715620015@cwis> mad-celt@cwis.unomaha.edu (Andrew Patrick Booth) writes:
>>>I have some relatives that just got stationed in Ice Land and was wondering if 
>>						  ^^^^^^^^
>>BZZZZZTTTT!!!!   It is Iceland!  (we don't need to have the country refered
>>to as Ice Land :-)
>
>Gee, Ei nar, you prob ab ly hear man y peo ple mis pro nounce I
>celand, since it is a coun try far in the hin ter lands...
>
>>>there was a way they could send/receive email from the U.S.  Is there some kind
>>>of email or internet service they can get access to?
>>Hmm.  I think it would be best for them to check at some information place
>>at Keflavik. 
>>Personally, I don't know about it.
>>einari@rhi.hi.is
>
>Well, Ein ar, we cer tain ly hope that some day your litt le coun try
>will get in ter net so that you can read this mess age. . .

I can not see why we should hope that Einar some day can read your mess.

Keflavik is the airport in Reykjavik. For the americans
(US people that should be) Keflavik is known as an US Air Force base
somewhere out in the Atlantic Ocean. Correct me if I am wrong, but I
think the base is sort of closed in the way that the yankies are on the
other side of the fence than the icelanders.

Iceland has access to INTERNET (that is why Einar is able to post stuff
that Kurt can read), while the US Air Force base (still at KEFLAVIK)
probably is connected to some *other types of networks*.


/Svein-Ivar

Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: tomas_e@LINK.Physchem.KTH.SE (Tomas Eriksson)
Subject: Re: Norwegians shot Swedish bear
Reply-To: tomas_e@LINK.Physchem.KTH.SE
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:12:30 GMT

In article <etxmow.715246262@garboc34>, etxmow@garboc34.ericsson.se (Mats Winberg) writes:
>      NOrwegian hunters have killed a bear that crossed the border from
>      Sweden, despite swedish pleas not to kill her. The bear was part
>      of a Swedish research project...

First the seals and now this... I wonder what His Majesty King Carl XVI 
Gustav will say on the matter. :-) (Possibly nothing, since he does a 
lot of hunting himself (mainly moose/elk/{lg).)

Tomas
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Tomas Eriksson                                          tomas_e@physchem.kth.se
            Surface Force Group, Department of Physical Chemistry,
               Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
From: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Norway claiming NY (too late)
Keywords: Santa
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:08:55 GMT
Reply-To: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Organization: SINTEF, Norwegian Institute of Technology

In article <17su2qINN4um@agate.berkeley.edu>, tedrick@whistle.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick) writes:
|> 
|> Sure, I'll trade you (1) Oslo for (1) Washington D.C. :-)
|> 
|> I might even throw in Los Angeles if that isn't enough :-)
|> 


Well, what I had in mind was you could have 1 Oslo for 1 New York.

Or even better, we coul pay you 1 Oslo if you take back New York. If
that isn't enough, we could add on Bergen.


|> We could probably arrange to attach Oslo to San Francisco, but
|> it might not be cold enough for you (Maybe Alaska would be better,
|> with some nice fjords so you wouldn't feel too homesick :-)


Just put Oslo wherever you want, they won't stop complainting
anywhere...

Find a rainy place for Bergen.


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From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: <None>
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:34:03 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki


The story about "koirankuonolaiset" ("the dog-faced men";
kuono = snout) is actually even more interesting.

During the 18th century, when Finland (as a part of kingdom of
Sweden) waged wars against Russia, the word "koirankuonolaiset" 
was widely used by finnish peasants to depict some central asiatic 
soldiers of the imperial Russian army, mainly the kalmuks, but also 
other "alien" ethnic groups.

The name refers not only to the outlook of some imperial soldiers,
but also to the old custom of Northern Russian/Siberian tribes
who used to wear skins of wild beasts (even with snout) hanging
from their necks (Coincidentally, many of the tribes sharing this very
custom were of finno-ugrian origin, that is, related to the Finns!).

There is scattered evidence that in some villages these "dog-faced-
men" were considered to be inhuman, especially some kirgisians
(I suppose they were kirgisians) who occasionally did 
derive nourishment from the blood of their horses (using some
kind of metal pipes). The shocked peasants thought they were
"vampires" and stoned them dead and sunk them in to the marshes,
as the local names sometimes indicate (like Tattarisuo in Helsinki,
"tartar swamp", where some unfortunate tartar or kalmuk lost his life).
But this kind of grim stories mostly belong to the 19th century, when
the Grand Duchy of Finland was a part of Russian Empire - and the
contacts with the Russian military were more "intimate".

***

Moreover, in his chronicle about northern peoples Adam of Bremen 
refers to the Finns themselves as "cynocephali", a curious 
mixture of dogs and men, the language of which resembles of 
dogs' barking.

The initial question was: has somebody ever heard about
"koirankuonolaiset" (est. koerakuonolased, lat. cynocephali).
I can gladly respond: I confront them every day all around
Helsinki, it's a "ruff!" place!

with best regards
Tapani Hietaniemi, University of Helsinki
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: etxmow@garboc34.ericsson.se (Mats Winberg)
Subject: Norwegians shot Swedish bear
Organization: Ericsson
Distribution: soc
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:31:02 GMT




      NOrwegian hunters have killed a bear that crossed the border from
      Sweden, despite swedish pleas not to kill her. The bear was part
      of a Swedish research project and was equipped with a radio
      transmitter. According to Swedish press, the Norwegians used the
      radio transmitter to track her down (a hunting method which is
      forbidden in Sweden). They also couldn't kill her properly, first
      they shot her in the foot leaving her wounded for a long period of
      time, before they killed her.

      There are approximately 800-900 wild bears in Sweden. Swedish
      wildlife authorities are trying to increase the numbers by not
      issuing more than 30 licenses to hunt bears this year. Normally
      ca. 50 bears are shot each year in Sweden.


      Mats Winberg
      etxmow@tore.ericsson.se

Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Subject: Re: Santa Poll - informal (Re: Greenland claiming residence of Santa Claus)
Reply-To: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Organization: SINTEF, Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 07:23:20 GMT

In article <hberg.172@polisci.umn.edu>, hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg) writes:
|> 
|> You're all wrong.  Santa Claus emigrated to the US long ago (as an economic 
|> refugee).  He lives in southern Indiana (ugh!) in (ta dah!) Santa Claus, IN 
|> 47579, USA.
|> 
|> He has also become a Republican, drives an Oldsmobile, voted for
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^            ^^^^^^^^^^
|> Reagan and  Bush, loves Dan Quayle (the former Senator from
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> Indiana), believes in family  values, and does not believe in
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> giving handouts to wellfare cheats.
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|>
|> (he probably never inhaled, neither!)
|> 
--


Bob - are we talking about the same person ?


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From: Bernt.M.Johnsen@kvatro.no (Bernt Marius Johnsen)
Subject: Re: Tyr,Odin,Thor,Frey?
Organization: Kvatro A/S, Trondheim, Norway
	<1992Aug31.182723.29128@burrhus.harvard.edu> <13920@chalmers.se>
Date: 3 Sep 92 13:38:24

>>>>> On 2 Sep 92 16:15:53 GMT, d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell) said:
> 
>   Well, my theory was put together from two pieces of information: The first
> is that there *has* been jokers with horned helmets running around up here,
> but during the bronze age, not during the viking age.
>   The second is the preponderance of jokers with horns on their heads running
> around in celtic mythology and art.
>   This led me to theorize that the religion around here during the bronze 
> age had been somewhat close to celtic, and since it wasn't celtic during
> the viking age, somebody had to have invented a new religion (Asatro) to
> replace the old one except for some still lingering traces like the Vanir and
> the statuette of Tor(?) wearing a horned helmet that was found in Birka(?).
>

For your information: 

The Celtic influence up here was in the early iron age. In fact it was
the Celtic influence that brought the technology up here (and to most
other parts of Europe, the Celts learned the technology from the
Illyrians which was a rather war-oriented people living in what today
is called Yugoslavia....).  The early iron age is often called "Celtic
iron age" as opposed to the later "Roman iron age" when the
cultural/technological influence was Roman (that is of course after
the Romans had subdued the Celts and before the viking age).

Bernt
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: There is no "Santa Claus"
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:22:01 GMT

In <1992Aug31.090812.5981@ugle.unit.no> jafitv@termo.unit.no (Julenissen) writes:


>Of course there is no Santa Claus - but how do you translate a word
>like "tomten", or in norwegian "nissen" to english ?

	How about "gnomes"?  That's usually an accepted translation.
They are small and bearded wearing high pointed hats in red or grey
with round red-cheeked faces and "lederhosen".  They help animals
who are injured and bring good luck to farmers who leave out milk
and food for them.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg)
Subject: Re: Santa Poll - informal (Re: Greenland claiming residence of Santa Claus)
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:22:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.072320.27607@ugle.unit.no> jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun) writes:

>In article <hberg.172@polisci.umn.edu>, hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg) writes:
>|> 
>|> You're all wrong.  Santa Claus emigrated to the US long ago (as an economic 
>|> refugee).  He lives in southern Indiana (ugh!) in (ta dah!) Santa Claus, IN 
>|> 47579, USA.
>|> 
>|> He has also become a Republican, drives an Oldsmobile, voted for
>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^            ^^^^^^^^^^
>|> Reagan and  Bush, loves Dan Quayle (the former Senator from
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> Indiana), believes in family  values, and does not believe in
>                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> giving handouts to wellfare cheats.
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|>
>|> (he probably never inhaled, neither!)
>|> 
>--


>Bob - are we talking about the same person ?


You would be surprised what living in southern Indiana can do to a person!!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: mad-celt@cwis.unomaha.edu (Andrew Patrick Booth)
Subject: Emailing Ice Land
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:20:15 GMT


I have some relatives that just got stationed in Ice Land and was wondering if 
there was a way they could send/receive email from the U.S.  Is there some kind
of email or internet service they can get access to?

please send any suggestions to me via email or post them here.

--
- Maelstrom the Mad Celt -      * SOUND News and Arts magazine is available via
(mad-celt@cwis.unomaha.edu)     * anon. FTP: quartz.rutgers.edu (/pub/journals)
Andy Booth - SOUND News & Arts  * or email from (ed@cwis.unomaha.edu).  Soon to
"Evolution follows the storm."  * return to GOPHER.  Art and writing welcome.
From: sam@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Vicky Hansen)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:37:39 GMT
Subject: Re: NameDay (Was: translation wanted)
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA