From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:29:35 GMT

jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young) writes:
: Problem not with missing 68881 socket. Problem is A600 missing 68030 chip!

Some would contend that for a low-end machine such as the 600, having
a 68000 is good, to keep the price low.

: Sorry people mailed me and said Falcon 32 mhz DSP 20 TIMES faster
: than A600 so now 1/2 price divided by 20 == $30 MAX!

You appear to be confused.  For proof that doesn't work, examine the
IBM market.

: Stores in England REFUSING to sell A600 because so many software
: breaking.  When A600 starts selling here C= many people will  
: complain too. 

And that's just wishful thinking.  On both counts.  People aren't
"refusing" to sell the 600, and like I said, it's not really that
non-compliant.  Nearly every new game will run and most old ones do.

: TIME?! A600 cannot even keep time because CLOCK NOT INCLUDED!!
: Only thing included with A600 is HIGHEST price tag of all game
: machines.  No wonder England people refusing to buy A600!

_Game_ machines.  Did you see your own mistake?  The A600 is NOT a
game machine.  It is a computer intended to be sold to the same market
that the C64 sold to, once upon a time.

: You deep dodo! WHERE is direct slot on A600? 

You don't _NEED_ one.  You've got a PCMCIA slot, a real bus.  Higher
end systems have PROCESSOR slots, which is a "direct slot" as you put
it.  A "direct slot" is nothing more than external access to
motherboard signals.  However, unlike the Falcon, those same systems
also give you a REAL bus, Zorro II/III.

: Point is only on you head! vAApor cards not selling so hot!!

That's the point:

	1) PCMCIA is NOT proprietary, there are pepole making
peripherals in both laptop, Amiga, and several other markets.
Meanwhile, only Atari and maybe a developer or two are making boards
for a "processor slot" which gives the system no true expansion
through an arbitrated bus.

	2) PCMCIA also has MANY cards available, from various
manufacturers, and competition, as it always does in the IBM world,
shall drive down prices to very low end-user costs.  On the other
hand, since there's no real jockeying for position going on in the
Atari-Falcon-Direct-slot market, you're not going to see a price drop
happen nearly as fast, if at all.  Because they're not competing to
sell their card.

There are two well explained advantages.  Do your best to shoot them
down, but I don't think it's POSSIBLE.

: C= MUST sell A600 FIRST and smart people not buying it.

Tell that to the many who have, and the many who will continue to.

: News said $799 LIST PRICE so Falcons will be $700 and lower!!!!

So where's this release that should have happened almost 4 days ago?
I smell vapor...

Greg

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