HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Lamont's wine and PRIVATE EYE
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:24:22 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk wrote:
> So we now get the "Affair of Gummer's Pond" the umpteenth "scandal" this
> Governemt has faced in the last 3 months.  Private Eye normally has
> knowledge about the scandels in politics, have the recent back issues
> mentioned any scandals which have not made it to the daily papers yet?

There's another contender around now - "Scallywag".  Even more than
"Private Eye", its editors seem to be dipsomaniac Tory failures determined
to get even with their erstwhile friends even if it means sinking their
entire class in an ocean of bile.  But it's come up with a few gems nobody
else has touched, like John Major's mistress being forced into exile rather
than stay where the press could get at her (and they hint that they know
*exactly* who she is).  It's distributed across the UK now (originally it
was restricted to Dorset).

Caveat about this: Private Eye has been very convenient for the intelligence
agencies in the past (see Dorril and Ramsay's "Smear!" for what this meant
when MI5 was gunning for Harold Wilson) and there's no guarantee that
Scallywag isn't more of the same.  Or maybe MI5 still has Private Eye and
this one is an MI6 rival...

Anyone else suspect there is something more to the recent wave of scandals
than meets the eye?  It's as if someone, somewhere, has decided that most of
the Tory leadership is dispensable and has let loose the rottweilers.  There
would have been no problem in the press skewering Alan Clark at any time in
the last few years if they'd really wanted to.

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From: tjo@its.bt.co.uk (Tim Oldham)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Banned: ``Happy Holidays'' [sic]
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:38:43 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: BT Group Computing Services, Birmingham, UK

In article <suplick.724377812@mikey> suplick@convex.com (Jean Suplick) writes:
>Happy holidays!  ;-)

I propose that this phrase be banned from this newsgroup. Acceptable 
phrases are ``Happy Christmas'', ``Merry Christmas'', ``A Very Happy
New Year'', plus one or two similar phrases.

I don't know what the fuck you celebrate in December in other parts
of the world, but in Britain and Northern Ireland it's Christmas and
the New Year.

Wishing you a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year,

	Tim.
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``Sounds good to me''
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:13:04 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: If the Wales' divorce
 <Bz3LJ3.JG0@hpqmoea.sqf.hp.com>

In article <Bz3LJ3.JG0@hpqmoea.sqf.hp.com>, prr@hpqmola.sqf.hp.com (Peter
Roubaud) says:
>
>Andy (2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA) wrote:
>> It has been argued that if Charles divorces, he would be unable to become   g
>Kin
>> as he would no longer be qualified to be Head of the Church of England. I am
>> not sure of that, todays paper cited the example of King Charles II (I
>think)
>> in 1698 who as King, divorced his wife and did not need to abdicate.
>
>Most impressive since Charles II died in 1685.

I did put a qualifier in there:) I am certain of the year (or rather what the
paper said) I am uncertain of the monarch.
From: smith@canon.co.uk (Mark Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Overseas Appliances
Date: 13 Dec 92 12:25:12 GMT
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

ckp2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Christina Powell) writes:
> Transformers are available up to at least 1600 watts (we had one
> when we lived in England).  They are of course more expensive
> than lower-watted ones.  

Industrial models are very expensive but you can find much cheaper
ones at electrical shops.  I bought a 1500 watt transformer in a
shop on Edgeware Road in London a few years ago for 40 pounds.
Carrying it home was a bugger, though.
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From: calum@ivy.clu.cf.ac.uk (Calum Gordon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: The story of the Scottish flag
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:26:27 GMT
Reply-To: Calum Gordon <calum@clu.cf.ac.uk>
Organization: Computational Linguistics Unit, Univ of Wales College of Cardiff
Posting-Software: GNUS: NNTP-based News Reader for GNU Emacs

In article <1992Dec11.194356.16767@news.nd.edu> ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:

>  prior 1601?  On the subject of Scottish kings, were thay all called
>  James or Malcolm (apart from Bob the Spider guy, of course).

Not quite (although there were six James's).  Of the top of my head I
can think of the obvious ones: Duncan, Macbeth and Macduff of course.
Was Wallace ever King ? Need to dig out my "Scotland's Story" for the rest.
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From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: Re: Nominate President of Britain
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:45:25 GMT

martin.baines@uk.sun.com (Martin Baines - Sun UK - SE Manager Cambridge)
makes the following proposals for President

 : 
: John Mortimer
: Tony Benn
: Norman Tebbitt
: Ken Livingstone
: Richard Branson
: John Harvey Jones
: Brian Redhead
: Sir Robin Day
: 
: Is that a catholic enough list?

	No, they're all men. Julie Burchill for Pres.


Richard Pennell
History NUS
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: Green Card colour survey!!
Organization: Vonnegut Tent Rentals, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:39:15 GMT

ALICE BERTELSON X2572 P7331 (alice_bertelson@pts.mot.com) wrote:
> 
> In article 1gokm4INNqr1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse) writes:
> >*>
> >*>Just adding my two cents worth.  My family came over in 1956 to
> >*>the US and the cards were blue.  Could it have anything to do with
> >*>when they were issued?
> 
> OK SO LET'S DO A SURVEY!!
> 
> 1984 IN MIAMI -ISSUED 'CARDS' WERE WHITE 
> 
> NEXT.........
> 
I'm game.  1983, Trenton NJ: laminated, credit card size, white on the front
and sort of green on the back where all the incomprehensible numbers are.

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From: gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: If the Wales' divorce
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:02:15 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

Simon Patience responds to Andy:

>> Another option is to disestablish the Church, an act that is long overdo. It is
>> quite odd in this day and age for a democracy to have a State church,
>> especially one to which a lessening proportion of the population belongs,
>> severing crown and church would also allow Britain to do away with various
>> anti-Catholic legislation concerning the monarchy.
>
>Even more overdue when you consider that there are more catholics that
>regularly attend church than c-of-e in Britain and neither of these groups
>can muster as much as 2% of the population. (1.7 cofe, 1.9 cath, source
>Economist disclaimer: working from memory)


I heard that the royal family is Presbyterian when in Scottland and C of E
(presumably) everywhere else in the world except maybe Alma, Michigan. 
Can this be true? And can anybody take the established church seriously
if it is?

Gerry Palo (73237.2006@compuserve.com)
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From: calum@ivy.clu.cf.ac.uk (Calum Gordon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: The story of the Scottish flag
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:18:22 GMT
Reply-To: Calum Gordon <calum@clu.cf.ac.uk>
Organization: Computational Linguistics Unit, Univ of Wales College of Cardiff
Posting-Software: GNUS: NNTP-based News Reader for GNU Emacs

In article <1992Dec9.160927.8533@rdg.dec.com> cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn) writes:

>  However, the Union flag could have been quite easily made by simply dividing
>  the flag into four and having the flags of Scotland, England, Wales and
>  Northern Ireland in the four quarters, instead of trying to overlay them.

Further emphasising the divides in the "union" that are so apparent to
everyone except Major and his gang of blind mice. The overlaying of
the flags was only meant to invoke an illusion of unity anyway. The
only way to improve on this last suggestion would be to take a pair
of scissors...
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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Last King of Scotland (was Dates 1603, 1688, and 1707)
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:08:04 GMT
	<BzD3xp.60w@newcastle.ac.uk>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <BzD3xp.60w@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:

   [ Scottish feelings on sovereignty ]

   How do they feel about Maastricht, when once again the Parliament which
   rules them is linking itself to a bigger state(s), and where once in
   it may be very difficult to leave.  And once again all this is being
   done without asking the populace.

According to a recent opinion poll, everyone's utterly ignorant of the
Treaty, but less against it than in England.

Really, the whole thing seems like an irrelevance - sovereignty and the
national parliament disappeared centuries ago, we've lived without them for
generations, and being ruled from London-and-Brussels-and-Strasbourg doesn't
seem so different to being ruled from London.  They're all a long way away,
and totally unresponsive to public opinion here, so we're not going to lose
anything.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sp@osf.org (Simon Patience)
Subject: Hooters
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:01:24 GMT

In article <BzBs3q.3zo@ecf.toronto.edu>, ambidge@ecf.toronto.edu (Chris Ambidge) writes:
> Methinks we have another case of "divided by a common language" 
> here, as we have just observed with "pecker"
> 
> In North America, "hooters" is a vernacular term for female breasts.
> I had not  made the connection until I read this, but "hooter" did
> refer to one's nose when I was in school playgrounds in England.

Funny, I recognized hooters immediately for nogglers (See Kenny Everett)
and haven't thought of it as uniquely American. But then I do get confused
from time to time.

Simon.

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From: pd@x.co.uk (Paul Davey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Why 2 types of new 10p?
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:55:52 GMT
Organization: Not a lot
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X-Copyright: The author asserts the right of paternity in this message.

>>>>> On 15 Dec 92 13:22:36 GMT, EY28@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK said:

-> There are two types: a round edged 10p which also has the effect of
-> making the coin look thinner and there are 10p coins with a square
-> edge. Guess which type is easy to stand on its edge boys and girls?

I hope they are keeping the ones with the square edges, picking up the
round edged ones is a real pain if you don't have fingernails long or
sharp enough to get them underneath.


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From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Subject: Re: US bombed Libyan civilians
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 12:06:16 GMT

In article <BzArI5.7w7@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
|> Guess you forgot about the bombing of a certain disco in Germany full of US
|> servicemen then. eh?

Yes but I thought this was a Syrian inspired operation aided by the Stasi out of
east Berlin (isn't that what the Stasi files showed ?).

David.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: An ENGLISH monarch??
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:49:02 GMT

In article <katherim.724629975@sfu.ca> katherim@fraser.sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) writes:
>I have a question.  I have been studying Scottish history for a while,
>and, in Canada at least, this necessarily entails studying a wee bit
>of English history.
>
>My question is simple:  has there ever been an ENGLISH monarch?
>
>The Plantegenets were french.
>The Tudors were Welsh.
>The Stuarts were Scottish
>The Windsors (were) are German.

You missed a few out: we had a few Danish kings before the Normans
took over, and don't forget the Dutch King William between the
Scottish Stuarts and the German Hanoverians!

I think Edward the Confessor may have been the last English King of
England.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: sballant@iastate.edu (Susan Ballantine)
Subject: bishop arrested
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:34:23 GMT
From: uesu03@giac1.oscs.montana.edu (Lou Glassy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Last King of Scotland (was Dates 1603, 1688, and 1707)
Keywords: n
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:50:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: coe.1992Dec16.225019.1846
Organization: Montana State University, Bozeman  MT

In article <BzD3xp.60w@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk
writes:  
!walker@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Graham Walker) writes:

[ much deleted ]

!How do they feel about Maastricht, when once again the Parliament which
!rules them is linking itself to a bigger state(s), and where once in
!it may be very difficult to leave.  And once again all this is being
!done without asking the populace.

A question for those of you in the know...

If the Scottish people *truly* did *not* want to play ball in the
European arena, is there any (peaceful|political) mechanism in place to
allow them not to?

In other words, if the majority of voting Scots didn't want Maastricht,
could they prevent Scotland from going in the kettle with the rest of
the UK?

I ask this, because I'm still unclear as to the nature of the
Scottish-- English political connection.  I know Scotland has some
degree of home rule, and its own legal and education system (distinct
from England's), but thought it [cannot][does not] have its own foreign
policy, any more than say, a state in the USA would have a 'foreign
policy' distinct from that of the US Federal government...and
Maastricht seems very definitely a matter of foreign policy (though
with some humongous domestic consequences!).

Lou.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: Anglepoise Lamps
Organization: Vonnegut Tent Rentals, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:21:17 GMT

Matthew Moore (skaamjm@ucl.ac.uk) wrote:
> >> 
> >> Stop 'Sesame St' before it's too late. Make them watch 'Bagpuss' or 'The
> >> Magic Roundabout' instead - good, solid entertainment, chockablock
> >  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> with English accents.
> >> 
> 
> >'The Magic Roundabout' is French...
> 
> The film is French, but the excellent narrator is English.

Unless you see the US version......

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From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: Re: Anglepoise Lamps
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:35:39 GMT

mad5c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Michael DeLong) writes:
: Would some kind soul please tell me what an anglepoise lamp is?
: 
: Is 'Anglepoise' perhaps a trade name?

	It *was* a trade name - like hoover/Hoover, thermos/Thermos (see
previous postings on this important aspect of British culture or contact
Sue Miller directly <heh, heh, heh>. It is a lamp consisting of a number
of long articulated shafts with a directional shade at one end so that the
light can be concentrated on the area of the user's desk where the light
is required. The shafts are balanced by the use of creaking springs whish
usually cause it to gently move position during the evening. Thus
defeating the object. The bulb is an ordinary 60W one, giving off a
yellowish light which eventually causes eye-strain. They have, in the best
british cultural tradition been superceded by a more sensible Japanese
design which a. does not move of its own accord, b. has a daylight bulb c.
consumes about 1/8 the amount of electricity. 

  : Why would anyone want to be an anglepoise lamp? : 

Perversity?

Richard Pennell History NUS
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: SECRET PURPOSE OF FALKLANDS WAR
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 11:46:53 GMT


	Would someone tell where the punchline is?

	Alec
From: czl30@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Tell me about the crack
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:38:12 GMT
Reply-To: czl30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Lee)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec18.203222.24020@ttinews.tti.com> jackson@soldev.tti.com (Dick Jackson) writes:
>Evelyn S. Hlabse writes:
>>	I have no idea how to put the crack in the cracker.
>
>Anyone know the chemistry of the cracking mechanism? Presumably there's
>some explosive substance (what?) which is ignited by the heat of
>friction when the two strips a ripped apart.
>
>Reminds me of making nitrogen tri-iodide at school. It went off like
>a cracker but would be far too unstable to be used for that purpose.

Ammonium tri-iodide?

>
>I am NOT cross posting this to sci.chemistry, I would consider that
>unsporting.
>
>Dick Jackson

Chris
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From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: More silly songs.
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:39:37 GMT

Hark the herald angels sing,
Beecham's pills are a very good thing.
Peace on earth and mercy mild,
Two for a man and one for a child.
If you want to go to heaven,
You must take a dose of seven.
If you want to go to hell,
Take the blooming box as well!
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From: mjackson@gssec.bt.co.uk (Mark Jackson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: The story of the Scottish flag
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:09:53 GMT
Organization: BT, Software Engineering Centre, Glasgow, Scotland

In article <CC.92Dec14132352@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec11.194356.16767@news.nd.edu> ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:
|> 
|>    On the subject of Scottish kings, were thay all called
|>    James or Malcolm (apart from Bob the Spider guy, of course).
|> 
|> There were a number of Alexanders and Davids.
|> --
|> 	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
|> 
|> 		

Don't forget Duncan and Macbeth !! (By the way, what was Macbeth's first name ?)
And then there are the Queens, e.g. Margaret (as in North and South Queensferry)
and Mary (I of Scots, ?? of France)

Mark I of Jackson
From: mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: London Underground sell-off?
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:57:00 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

In article <6250105@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> apm@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Andrew Merritt) writes:
>Has anyone else heard rumours about the London Underground system being
>privatised in the new year?  Apparently the lines will be sold separately;
>I'm not sure if the stations are to be sold as a separate package (i.e. I'm
>not sure how they plan to manage the stations that are interchanges between
>different lines).
>
Only slightly confused - it's not London Underground that's
being sold off (yet), it's London buses.

Matthew Huntbach
From: bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: More silly songs.
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:45:59 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bnsgs179.bnr.co.uk
Keywords: while shepherds washed their socks by night christmas carols

In article <Bz4AHn.1Gz@math.uwaterloo.ca> arpepper@math.uwaterloo.ca (Adrian Pepper) writes:
>Is there any more to the following:
>
>  While shepherds washed their socks by night,
>  All seated round a tub,
>  The angel of the Lord came down,
>  And taught them how to scrub.

Another one I remember from schooldays was:

  While shepherds watched their flocks by night,
  All eating fish and chips,
  The angel of the Lord came down,
  And charged them one and six.

Feeble eh?

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