HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: txn@cyclone.larc.nasa.gov (Troung Nguyen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: Re:Re: NguyenDuyKhang
Date: 16 Dec 1992 16:28:22 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cyclone.larc.nasa.gov

To: octela!octeld.octel.com!andyn@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Re: Re:Re: NguyenDuyKhang

In article <1992Dec16.021712.17268@news.media.mit.edu> you write:
|> 
|> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
|> > Tha^'y ca'c anh nha^.n classmate la`m tui cu~ng bo^`i ho^`i nho+'
|> > dde^'n tru+`o+`ng cu~ ba.n xu+a.  Tui kho^ng bie^'t ca'c anh nhu+ng
|> > tui cu~ng co' theo ho.c NguyenDuyKhang (76-78), lo+'p 6-lo+'p 8.  
|> > Ca'c anh ho.c o+? ddo' tu+` na(m na`o va^.y?
|> > 
|> > Tha^n cha`o
|> > Luong Kim Giang
|> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> Giang,
|> Nhu+ va^.y Giang la` ba^.t dda`ng anh cu?a tu.i na`y ro^`i.  Kho^ng 
|> hie^?u Giang co' o+? la.i tru+o+`ng sau gio+` ho.c dde^? dda' banh
|> kho^ng.  Ne^'u co' thi` the^' na`o chu'ng ta cu~ng dda~ ddu.ng ddo^.
|> nhau ro^`i vi` ho^`i ddo' tu.i trong xo'm to^i nga`y na`o cu~ng dda'
|> banh tru+o+'c tru+o+`ng NDK be^n ca.nh nha` tho+`.  Ne^'u tui nho+' 
|> kho^ng la^`m thi` o+? trong tru+o+`ng NDK co' mo^.t ho^` ca' tra
|> ra^'t la` dde.p pha?i kho^ng ....hi` hi`
|> 
|> he?m 195 
|> 

 Anh Giang va^.y la` ho.c cu`ng kho'a  vo*'i tui ro^`i.  Tui kho^ng nha^.n 
ra te^n anh, nhu*ng tui ho.c NDK lo*'p 6-lo*'p 9 (76-79).  Tui co`n
nho*' te^n cu?a va`i tha^`y co^: tha^`y Sang (ho'a), tha^`y Nha.n (toa'n),
co^ Lan (Sinh va^.t), Co^ Tho^ng (Anh Va(n)...  Kho^ng bie^'t ba.n 
na`o bie^'t tin ca'c ngu*o*`i ddo' kho^ng.

 Sa(~n dda^y tui muo^'n ti`m ba.n te^n Nguye^~n Ta^'n Tru*o*`g, ho.c  cu`ng kho'a, to*'i Wyoming na(m 1981.  Co' ai bie^'t xin me'c du`m.

Cha`o
Nguye^~n Xua^n Tru*o*`ng
txn@radar0.larc.nasa.gov

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: drk@cs.uiuc.edu (David Kohr)
Subject: Recent VN movies (was Re: Petrust Ky' alumni)
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Comp Sci, Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:17:56 GMT

In article <85283@ut-emx.uucp> pham@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (pham) writes:
>Just go out and watch the movie LOVERS!!!!
>
>Enjoy
>
>Vien

Along that line, has anybody seen the French film about Dien Bien Phu yet?
-- 
Dave Kohr     CS Graduate Student     Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Work: 3244 DCL, (217)333-6561  Home: (217)359-9350  E-mail: drk@cs.uiuc.edu
                   "One either has none or not enough."
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 10:07:04 EST
From: <PDLBH@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Poem for the day


This is not my poem...I do this for a friend of mine :)

Le Duc
------------------------------------------------------------------------

   " Hello all,
   Cha('c ha(?n ca'c ba.n ddang mie^.t ma\i vo+'i sa'ch vo+? dde^? mau cho qua
 ddu+o+.c mu\a thi final na\y ma\ ho^'i ha? ddo'n mu\a Gia'ng
 Sinh nu+?a la.i ve^\.
   Mi\nh cu~ng
 ra^'t tho^ng ca?m vo+'i no^~i lo a^u ma^'t a(n ma^'t ngu? ddo' trong mu\a thi
 cu?a ca'c ba.n (but still irc heheeee) ne^n ho^m qua la^.t
la.i va\i trang tho+ cu~ mi\nh ca?m tha^'y co' the^? chia xe? ta^m tra.ng vo+'i
 ca'c ba.n qua:
            BA\I CHO NHO? MU\A THI
Mu\a thi dda~ ke^\ ro^\i ddo' nho?
Nho? lo na(m ta e nga.i dde^'n mu+o+\i
Nhu+~ng ba\i thi la\m nho? bie^'m mo^i cu+o+\i
Ta tha^.t su+. trong lo\ng ddau kho^n xie^'t


Ta tu+o+?ng tu+o+.ng ne^'u nho? ma\ thi ro+'t
Cha('c nho? buo^\n nhu+ nhu+~ng la' thu bay
Cha('c le^. ho^\ng la\m u+o+'t chie^'c kha(n tay
Nhu+ng co' da.o nho? gia^.n ho+\n ta pha?i do^~

Ta tu+o+?ng tu+o+.ng ne^'u nho? ma\ thi ddo^?
Nho? se~ mu+\ng chu+a cha('c dda~ ho+n ta
Mie^.ng nho? cu+o+\i se~ ru+.c ro+~ nhu+ hoa
No^~i sung su+o+'ng u+?ng ho^\ng tre^n ma' ddo?

Nga\y thi dda~ ke^\ ro^\i ddo' nho?
Ta kho^ng thi nhu+ng ho^\i ho^.p la. thu+o+\ng
Dde^m ta na(\m ca^\u xin Chu'a xo't thu+o+ng
Cho nho? ddo^~ ta se~ mu+\ng ghe^ go+'m!!!
   Dda(.c bie^.t ta(.ng cho nhu+~ng ngu+o+	 ddang ye^u ma\
 co' na\ng co\n ddang mang ca(.p sa'ch. Share this with her then you'll special
 treat...
   Ddo^'i vo+'i ca'c ba.n ga'i thi\ dda^y la\ mo'n qua\ tinh tha^\n giu'p ca'c
 ba.n dda.t ke^'t qua? to^'t trong ky\ thi, hopefully..."

                                                          PV.

------------------------------------------------------------------------


Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: ktdo@eos.ncsu.edu (TK)
Subject: [VSA] - Ba'o Xua^n 
Originator: ktdo@c00374-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: ktdo@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: VSA@ncsu
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:46:32 GMT



Me^'n cha`o ta^'t ca? ca'c anh chi. em sinh vie^n va` cu+.u sinh vie^n,

Ho^.i Sinh Vie^n Vie^.t Nam ta.i tru+o+`ng North Carolina State
ddang chua^?n bi. mo^.t to+` dda(.c san cho Te^'t Quy' Da^.u na(m nay.

Ban ba'o chi' chu'ng to^i mong ddo'n nha^.n bai` vo+?, ho.a pha^?m ddo'ng 
go'p cua? ta^'t ca? ca'c ba.n.  

Chu? dde^`: 	(~ dde^` tai` lie^n quan dde^'n) 
			Sinh vie^n va` cu+.u SV
			Xua^n
			Ti`nh ye^u
The^? loa.i:	Tho+, truye^.n nga('n, bi`nh lua^.n, ho.a pha^?m ..

Xin go+?i ve^`  Vietnamese Student Association
		North Carolina State University
		3114 University Student Center
		Box 7306 -Program Office
		Raleigh, NC 27695 - 7306

Hoa.c xin EMAIL cho ktdo@eos.ncsu.edu 
			TRU+O+'C NGA`Y 5 THA'NG 1 NA(M 93. 
Xin ke`m theo ddi.a chi? dde^? chu'ng to^i go+i? ba'o ta(.ng.

			Tha`nh tha^.t ca'm o+n ca'c ba.n,

			Ban Bao' Chi'
			VSA @ NCSU
		
		
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: "Tuan Tu  --UNMCVM(TUANTU)" <TUANTU%UNMCVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject:      Christmas-New Year
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: @mitvma.mit.edu:TUANTU@UNMCVM.BITNET
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:24:27 GMT



Tha^n chu'c qui' vi. SCV nga`y le^~ nhie^`u bi`nh an va` na(m mi' nhu* y'.!.

Chu'c cho ca'c co^ lo*~ mu`a xua^n so*'m co' an vui
Chu'c cho ca'c cha`ng pho`ng -do*n go^'i chie^'c, giu*o*`n 4 cha^n ga^~y 1
Chu'c cho ca'c cu. o^ng tuy gia` ma` su*'c va^~n re?o rai
Chu'c cho ca'c cu. ba` tuy -da~ hoa ra^m ma` co`n baby cu*' co' hoa`i

Chu'c cho ca'c vi. thu*o*ng gia nga`y le^~ tie^`n vo^ nhu* nu*o*'c
Chu'c cho ca'c chu* vi. co`n o^m sa'ch -de^'n tru*O*`ng mau -di la`m tra? no*.
Chu'c cho ngu*o*`i tha^'t nghie^.p ca^`y hai ba job me^.t -du*'t ho*i
Chu'c cho nhu*~ng ai qua' ma^.p thi` xua^n thi` se~ tro*? la.i
Chu'c cho nhu*~ng ai o^'m nhom thi` le^n ky' lai rai

Chu'c cho ca'i the^' gio*'i na`y mau he^'t......kho^? -dau....hee hee hee....

                         HAPPY HOLIDAY TO ALL OF YOU!!!


                                     D.H.
From: mkagalen@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (michael kagalenko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Happy end for the ESTONIAN question (Was: Est
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:03:27 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

In article <1992Dec20.175931.24194@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
>Mikhail S. Verbitsky (verbit@birkhoff.harvard.edu) writes:
>>	That non-citizens will be more easily discriminated by
>>       militant nationalists (like in Germany) there is no doubt.
>
>Do you suggest that blacks in the US are not citizens?

READ the POST, my dear friend 8-> Verbitsky didn't say that citizens
cann't be discriminated against. It's your advantage in any discussion
not to be so openly ignorant. Furthermore, I understand that necessity
to obey the logic can be irritating, but you still should obey it ;-)


>You are making a very serious mistake if you are equalling the
>Estonian diaspora with the Serbo-Croat one. The former are ....
(educated ones, the latter "lumpen-proletariat")

Not the point. Education do not necessarily reduce bad instincts ( as 
we can see in this group :)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy)
Subject: Quick! Tune in onto...
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:26:05 GMT

... new.admin.policy and see whose automatically posted garbage
has found its way there.

By the way, two days in a row, and not one single posting by
you-know-who? Has someone finally implemented that Mad-Turk
killer I reposted not so very long ago? If so, thank you,
whoever you are.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.nordic
From: junikka@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jari Junikka)
Subject: Re: Non - IndoEuropean la
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Follow-Up: soc.culture.europe
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 10:39:33 GMT

warrenc@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Cherie Warren) writes in
the discussion about non-indoeuropean languages:

>Catalan is one of the Romance languages, derived from Latin.  Gaelic and
>Welsh are Celtic in origin.  Thus, these three languages are all Indo-
>European.

>Finnish, Estonian, Lapp, and Hungarian are all Finno-Ugric languages,
>with Hungarian (Magyar) being a somewhat separate branch - it split off
>from the other three well over a thousand years ago.

I thought that Lappish (saami) is not Finno-Ugric.
Or maybe I am just getting this idea from the fact that it's origins
are not well known.

regards,

jari
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Let's conratulate her...
Date: 12 Dec 1992 05:46:49 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


BOSNIA AID BECOMES A PERSONAL MISSION 
 
December 10,1992 
 
BY ALEX TIZON 
 
Seattle Times 
 
 SEATTLE - A newspaper story about war atrocities in the 
former Yugoslavia has inspired a Seattle-area woman to drop 
everything, collect relief supplies and deliver them in 
person to needy refugees in the war-torn region~ 
 Susan Conley of Lake Forest Park will fly out of Seattle-
Tacoma International Airport this morning with 10 boxes of 
winter coats, boots, toys and antibiotics. 
 Her destination: a rural village in  Bosnia-Herzegovina  
named Mijkovici, which has been occupied and razed by 
Serbian soldiers, leaving 49 farming families to live among 
the ruins. 
 "l've never done anything like this," said Conley, 29, a 
communications specialist for an electronics company in 
Redmond, Wash . , east of Seattle . "I am a very methodical 
person. I live a very planned life . " 
 C;onley said she had been following the developments in the 
former Yugoslavia, feeling bad for the land ~nd the people 
she had visited as a tourist two years ago. Then, a little 
over a week ago, she picked up a copy of the Seattle Times, 
which had a front-page story about rape victims in Bosnia. 
 The article's description of one victim, a 60-year-old 
woman.~, who had been gang-raped by Serbian soldiers and 
left devastated and hopeless, especially moved Conley. 
 "It made me want to help her somehow, give her something, 
anything so that she would see there is still love in the 
world." 
 She dug up a flier she had picked up in a church in 
Scottsdale, Ariz., soliciting aid for Bosnian and Croatian 
victims. She called the number and was told four people from 
Scottsdale were leaving for Mijkovici, and that she could go 
with them. 
 "The moment I told her 1 would go 1 was panicked," Conley 
said. "1 was thinking, `What have 1 gotten myself into?' " 
She said she has felt every emotion, including out-and-out 
fear. 
 She felt that fear: most recently while getting travel 
inoculations. her doctor asked if she wanted to borrow his 
bulletproof vest. She said yes. 
 The outpouring of help and support from friends and family 
has helped calm the fear, Conley said. She even managed to 
persuade a friend to come along on her eight-day relief 
mission. 
 "People think we're crazy, but that's all right," said John 
Bucy, 31 , a computer-software engineer from Renton, Wash. 
 Conley and Bucy will take time off work and pay for their 
trip, which is estimated to cost about $2,600 each, with 
their savings. 
 "I won't be buying Christmas presents this year," Conley 
said.
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: the memory of 2.5 million is not that silent
Date: 14 Dec 1992 09:22:05 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Arxid) writes:
re: "Schuerzinger" insults the silent memory of 2.5 million Muslim people.

Arxid Bey,

judging from the amount of crap coming out of your account, I do not
find the memory of the '2.5 million' people that silent.

In fact, I have a good reason to believe that they've all risen from 
the dead and started reading and posting news, all using your user-id...

Bah Bah Bah

Spiros
--
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    "Ne mutlu anti-Argic diyene ?
c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com                 Ne mutlu anti-Mutlu diyene !"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: Mark Lipsits <ml12@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: Blame the victim
X-Xxdate: Wed, 16 Dec 92 05: 16:54 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: ml12@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:13:32 GMT


Mark Lipsits.  Cornell University Engineering ComSci.  AKA
ml12@cornell.edu 
                                        ***Lynah Faithful***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: TLH@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Thomas L Hoffmann)
Subject: **FORSALE:Macintosh Portable,IIci,Powerbook**
Organization: Penn State Engineering Computer Lab
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 14:13:40 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hi Europe!

I will be in Germany from December 14 til January 11.
Will sell the following items:

Mac Portable 4/40 with numercal keypad
Mac IIci in 8/0 or 8/105 configuration
Mac PowerBook 140 in 4/40 configuration

Please call Munich at 49/89/954472.

Tom

Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: Mark Lipsits <ml12@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: Blame the Victim... (By Alex Chaihorsky)
X-Xxdate: Wed, 16 Dec 92 05: 19:20 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: ml12@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:15:39 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.nordic
From: torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen)
Subject: Re: Non - IndoEuropean la
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
	<Bz4049.I8p@bcstec.ca.boeing.com>
	<1992Dec14.103933.1440@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>
	<BzBIry.4st@bcstec.ca.boeing.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:09:35 GMT

In article <BzBIry.4st@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> warrenc@bcstec.ca.boeing.com 
(Cherie Warren) writes:

   >To start another thread: what European (Indo- or not) language is
   >considered most difficult?  Russian, Czech, and Slovak vie for the top
   >honors, but other languages have their intricacies.

  There is a standard answer to this kind of question: no language is more
difficulty than any other language. On the other hand, speakers of a
particular language will find some foreign languages harder to learn than
others.
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Happy end for the ESTONIAN question (Was: Est
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:59:31 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Mikhail S. Verbitsky (verbit@birkhoff.harvard.edu) writes:
>	That non-citizens will be more easily discriminated by
>       militant nationalists (like in Germany) there is no doubt.

Do you suggest that blacks in the US are not citizens?

>       The question is, do Estonian powers share their goals with
>       militant nationalists? I believe so, but I have no factual
>	evidence. If so, by restricting citizenship they free
>	their hands to discriminate peole who are not ethnically
>	clean; if not, they unconsciously free the hands of
>	neo-Nazi (who will quite possibly devour them after
>	they will feel free to do it).

Which militant nationalist? Which neo-Nazis? There are very little
of those people in Estonia, it seems.

>	I am not sure so. It is true that if Yugoslavia
>	was left without intervention from Council of
>	Europe (whom you tend to value so high),

I fail to see in which way the Council would have intervened. The
thing the Council did with regards to Yugoslavia was to deprive
them of their observer status in the Council. They could also
condemn the human-rights violations in Yugoslavia, and I would
suppose that they have. What else do you ask them to have done?

>       Germany who tried to recognize its dissolution even before
>	CoE (and long before the dissolution was finished),
>	there could be less mutual violence there.

Well, Germany surely could wait with recognition after CoE - it
is simply not the Council's business to recognize states. They 
can accept a state as a member if fulfils certain criterias, such
as respect for human rights and a freely elected parliament.

>	Surely also if Croatian facsistic diaspora was staying
>	aside there were almost none. The potential
>	for a violence always was there, regardless
>	of what outsiders do.
>
>	The same goes for Baltics (and Russia too).
>	Estonians were never as rabidly nationalistic as
>	their diaspora.

Why only Croatian diaspora? Why not Serbian diaspora as well?

You are making a very serious mistake if you are equalling the
Estonian diaspora with the Serbo-Croat one. The former are
refugees, or descendants thereof, who in many cases came from
the intellectual elite. They have in many cases fared very well 
in the new home countries, and are often well-educated people
today as well.

The Yugoslavians who left Yugoslavia for Sweden in the 1960s (to
take a case I know something about) were or on the other hand
mainly labour immigrants and with a composition dominated by
blue-collar workers. Among these people were also quite some
criminals - not a signficant amount to throw a shadow on the
Yugoslavian community in Sweden, but many of the Serbs and Croats 
who have returned to fight in Yugoslavia have a criminal record.
For instance, Arkan leader of one of the too many para-military
groups, was last time seen in Sweden when he was liberated on
his way to a trial for a couple of armed bank robberies.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: re: Recalling in sorrow the victims of the supermarket massacre
Date: 17 Dec 1992 08:03:24 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Arxid) [The pride of AT&T, Hasan B Mutlu] writes:
re: Recalling in sorrow the victims of the Azeri Genocide.

(* >Having been in this country for 10 years (and having dealt with an almost
(* >infinite number of idiotic teenagers working as supermarket cashiers,
(* >all making cute remarks about Tri*'s name) I pretty much have learned to
(*  
(* Living things have been doing just that for a long, long time, "sipa of
(* delco". It's the "sipa" thing that I envy. Now, any comment?
(*  
(*      Armenian Soldiers Massacre Hundreds of Fleeing Families:
(*  
(*  'The Armenians just shot and shot. And they came in and started carving 
                                                                    ^^^^^^^
(*  up people with their bayonets and knives.'  A 45-year-old man who had been 
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(*  shot in the back  said:' We were walking through the brush. Then they opened 
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(*  up on us and people were falling all around. [...] 

Yea, one comment, Arxid Effendi... I just got a wonderful idea of what to
do the next time an idiotic teenager working as a supermarket cashier
makes cute remarks about Tri*'s name. How's this:

        Tri* Family Massacres Dozens of Supermarket Cashiers

'The Tri* family just shot and shot. And they came in and started
carving up teenage supermarket cashiers with their bayonets and
knives.'  A 15-year-old who had been shot in the back said:' We were
done weighting in the chickens and turkeys... Then they opened up on
us and people were falling all around. [...]

Any comments, Arxid Effendi?

Spiros
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.europe:10486 talk.politics.soviet:9746
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: What is Europe?
Date: 20 Dec 92 11:23:03 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Ivan A Derzhanski (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk) writes:
>But Daghestan is in Asia, so the question doesn't arise.

Is it? Not last time I looked. Admittedly where the European-Asian
borderline goes from the Urals to the Bospor is an unclear issue.
A common convention used to be along the southern border of the USSR
over to the Caspian Sea, and from there along the border of Kazakh-
stan. Using a geographical criteria, the Caucasus range and the Ural
river would be a more reasonable choice. In both cases Daghestan would
be part of Europe. Apparently Ivan is using some other definition;
maybe he is drawing a line from the Azovian Sea over to the Urals,
which would almost render a place like Volgograd in Asia.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
From: carl.camurca@travel.com (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Most difficult language
Date: 17 Dec 92 07:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online / St. Louis Online - St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca@travel.com (Carl Camurca) 

Hi!

CW>To start another thread: what European (Indo- or not) language is
CW>considered most difficult?  Russian, Czech, and Slovak vie for the top
CW>honors, but other languages have their intricacies.

German! The orthographic difficulties resulting out of the
capitalization of nouns is unsurpassed. Not to mention the huge number
of irregular verbs and the latin-like grammar (3 genders and four
cases). That, if we restrict ourselves to European languages. Otherwise,
I'd suggest Chinese (Boy, I wonder if the European brain is
anatomically able to learn it! :-) ).

Cheers, Carl.

 * OLX 2.1 TD * The price of freedom is eternal vigilance
                                                                                                                           
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: ahuja@cube.ecs.umass.edu (Hitesh Ahuja)
Subject: One day stopover in Zurich, Places to see?????
Followup-To: ahuja@cube.ecs.umass.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:31:53 GMT

     I am stopping in Zurich for one day on February 17th. I would
appreciate any suggestions about things of tourist interest in or
around Zurich which I can see in one day.

     Also, where can I get cheap accomodation in Zurich?

     Please reply by email to me as I dont read this newsgroup
frequently.

              Thanks in advance


                          Hitesh



Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
From: 002564r@ace.acadiau.ca (RICARDO FLAVIO ROMAN-CARBAJAL)
Subject: sorry eh!
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:42:50 GMT


Hi, How do you do? I'm a southamerican in Canada  and I got a question
for all the people in Europe

Last week I was talking with an enviromentalist girl from Germany, here in my
University,(she is in exchange) and when I told  her about french  Atomic 
bombs  in the south Pacific Ocean, she Knew absolutly nothing, she told me 
that we should've done somthing like telling the other countries about that,
but.... boy! we've had years complaining about that and also I don't Know if 
it is just a casuality but for long time ago (just when our complanis have 
started) the south american countries at the Pacific Ocean coast, just we 
need VISA to go to France

Did you Know about that?  Do you care?

see you                                
                                     Ricardo Roman