From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: some gods are _not_ creaters of all things, apparently
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:49:27 GMT
Organization: California State University: Sacramento

In article <1992Aug12.035320.30173@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>In  <1992Aug12.015502.23325@csus.edu>  chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
>> In article <darkstar.713555397@milton> darkstar@milton.u.washington.edu (Alden H
>> >chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
>> >
>> >
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>> >Thought I answered this already.  I answered your assertion about
>> >adult/child sex, and you never answered, even though you asserted in the
>> >same post that I wouldn't answer, and that you'd keep bugging me until I
>> >did.  Ha!
>>
>> >I'm still waiting for your proof that "pro-choice = pro-child/adult sex."
>>
>> If you put it in this news thread, it was in my KILLfile (anything
>> about religious debates, goes there). Right now, I'm scouring for any
>> possible lost.Kaufman.posts, so I see your article now.
>
>Uh-huh.  Riiiight.

Margolis, if you thought I couldn't respond to this, why am I
responding to it now?

>> 1) Did Judge Lockett say that the right to privacy meant an
>> invalidation of statutory rape?
>> YES.
>
>No.  Did he say that the right to privacy meant it's OK to take advantage
>of someone incapable of giving consent due to intoxication?  Due to
>mental retardation?  Looks like you don't know what "statutory rape"
>means other than your masturbatory fantasies.

I thought you knew I meant the adult/child part of the statutory rape
laws and that it was understood that this part was the one specified.
Well, seeing as I was in error, I will specify, specify, specify. 
Just hold off that plane ticket to Florida until you read this. That
12 year old girl will wait, you know...  


FACT: he did say it meant the right to do it if they give consent. 

Statutory rape laws also make sex between adults and minors illegal,
consent being irrelevant. But in Florida, that part, the part I
addressed, has been declared unconstitutional.  

>> Conclusion:
>> 5) Is statutory rape now legal in Florida?
>> YES.
>
>No.

Let's see that answer again, Margolis, now that I've specified _which_
part of the law has been invalidated. 

>Also, note that you only attempted (and failed) to prove that statutory
>rape is now legal in Florida.  You in no way addressed the question at hand:
>> >I'm still waiting for your proof that "pro-choice = pro-child/adult sex."

Yes I did. That was the whole theme of my post. Let me CLARIFY things:

Adult/child sex (this is getting ridiculous - I and the vast majority
of Americans would never let this happen to their kids even *if* they
"consented" - but then again, I am in the majority opinion on this, so
what importance do *we* have in the world?) is legal in Florida if
consent is given. 
Judge Lockett did not say, "But only in the cases that I tried, is it
legal." He simply said, "It is legal. Laws against it are
unconstitutional."  

Would you, Larry Margolis, care to address this directly, rather than
weaseling over to statutory rape laws concerning subjects outside of
what I originally said: adults messing around with kids. 

Statutory rape is statutory rape, no matter _which_ form of statutory
rape it is. Unless, of course, you make it legal.

>Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)


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		  Pro-Choice means pro-adult/child sex! 
	        With the little girl's consent, of course. 
		 Don't you pro-choicers just _hate_ this? 
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