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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: 14.4k modem
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 02:17:39 -0500

gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard J. Gaylord) 

  > RE: 14.4k modem
  > 
  > this advice is ridiculous.
  > 
  > unless you have had specific problems with the zoom or the supra or
  > the other 'new' boys in the neighborhood, there is no reason to scare
  > people off from these products. the lower prices are a result of the
  > new chip set, not due to an inferior product.

   The Supra and (particularly) the Zoom are not remotely as good as (say)
a US Robotics or an Intel.  Perhaps if your needs are modest and you don't
plan on making too many calls over a bad line, you can get by with an 'el
cheapo' v.32/bis modem.

   Whenever the phone lines get wet on my BBS, the Supra and Zoom users are
complaining like crazy, but the US Robotics users never notice.  Sad, but
true.

 > there's no reason to buy a good product at a high price then you can buy
 > an equally good product at a lower price and spend the difference on
 > something else.

   All too often, you get what you pay for.  TNSTAAFL.
From: daven@notable.com (Dave Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Microphone Front End for GENIE & Internet mail wanted.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 08:48:16 PST
Organization: Notable Technologies, Inc.
Reply-To: daven@notable.com
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.5v4


In article <1992Sep7.033512.23435@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> (comp.sys.mac.comm), ralph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Ralph Brandi) writes:
|
| In article <01058004.ccul1q@oberon.notable.com> daven@notable.com writes:
| >
| >Have you downloaded the MicroPhone II technote on how to send it
| >AppleEvents? It available on the SVC BBS (510) 849-1912.
| 
| I have since posting the original article, but it wasn't much help.
| I suppose that part of the problem is that I haven't found any
| specific documentation on AppleEvents in general.  The other problem
| seems to be that the MPII Tech Note and the Articulate Systems Tech
| Note use different terminology, or so it seems to me.

[ noise filter applied ]

| The MPII Tech Note tells me that Do Script takes a direct parameter
| containing either the text of a script (typeText), an alias to a
| text file containing the text of a script (typeAlias), or an object
| specifier for a script in the open document (typeObjectSpecifier).
| How this relates to the ARG_LIST above is less than crystal clear to
| me.
| 
| Any suggestions?

Yes, use Control Tower if possible. It's a mistake to expect non-programmers
to understand this level of detail for AppleEvents. Better tools for creating
and sending AppleEvents to applications are needed. One product that does a
good job is Control Tower. AppleScript (when it arrives) will be another.
Everything else I've seen suffers the same programmers-only maliase.

Until such products arrive though, you'll see applications which accept
AppleEvents providing such low-level documentation, because the authors
haven't the faintest notion what kind of knowledge people will need in the
long run.

MicroPhone II's technote provides what another programmer (already familiar
with AppleEvents) would need to know to send AppleEvents to MicroPhone II.
It can't tell you how to do it in Hypertalk, or Aritculate's scripting
language because neither sets of specs were available when the AppleEvents
were added to MicroPhone II. I can also understand why SVC might not
want to try to keep up with all the other applications' means for allowing
people to construct events and dispatch them. Better to wait for
products that read the AETE resource (such as Control Tower) and use it
to aid people in constructing meaningful, syntacially correct AppleEvents.

--Dave

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: Bernard_D._Aboba@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:43:02 PDT
Subject: Re: Mac BBS software.... what options are there ?

>The only problem with the Internet-FirstClass gateways is price...

Not so. Postal Union has the following problems:

1. Cannot handle batched and compressed mail.
2. Cannot take UUCP incoming; can only poll.
3. Is very slow; can only process around 1 message/second on a IIfx
4. Must be run on a separate machine
5. Is incompatible with the Comm Toolbox. Any comm toolbox connected
lines will cause Postal Union to crash on callup. 

FirstClass adds to these existing problems by:

1. Bouncing mail if a user's name is similar enough to another user. For
example, if there is a "Steve Costas" on the system, mail to "Steve
Costa"
will be bounced. This will generate many unnecessary bounced messages;
unfortunately, it also happens on incoming USENET.

I have run several UUCP/USENET gateways in my time. These include
UFGATE and FredGate on the PC. Postal Union compares unfavorably
with these packages (which are free, by the way). 
***************************************************************************
              From Planet BMUG, the FirstClass BBS of BMUG, Inc.
***************************************************************************
From: dreier@lhasa.berkeley.edu (Roland Dreier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: VRAM to #colors equation?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:42:41
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
	<mwojcik-080992145624@college23.sas.upenn.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: lhasa.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: mwojcik@pennsas.upenn.edu's message of 8 Sep 92 19:20:07 GMT

In article <mwojcik-080992145624@college23.sas.upenn.edu> mwojcik@pennsas.upenn.edu (Michael Wojcik) writes:
   In article <1992Sep7.180415.1347@pro-freedom.cts.com>,
   hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (Scott Hudziak) wrote:
   > 
   > Does anybody know what the equation is for (bit color)?
   > I mean Given a VRAM card of (n) number of K what is that equal to in the
   > number of colors. So how do I find out how many colors there are to 'n'-bit
   > color? And how to figure out a given number of K on a VRAM card = nuber of
   > bit color. I'm not makihng sense am I?
   >  
   > scott hudziak
   > hue@pro-freedom.cts.com

   OK, here's the deal. A pixel on your screen can be on or off. That's 1 or
   0. A zero/one is a bit. A black and white monitor therefore has 1 bit per
   pixel.

   With two bits per pixel you have four combinations of on and off
   00,01,10,11, and therefore 4 colors. Check math books for information on
   alternate (here binary) numbering systems.

   With the binary numbering system, x bits can represent 2^x different
   settings of on and off. 8-bit color = 2^8 = 256 colors.

   Now, how much VRAM do you need? This is determined by how many pixels are
   on your screen. If you have a 640 pixel X 480 pixel screen, you have
   307,200 pixels. In black and white, you need 307,200 on/off switches or
   bits. Since 8 bits = 1 byte, that's 38,400 bytes, or 38.4 Kbytes.

   640X480 at 8 bits per pixel = ((640 X 480 X 8) / (8 X 100))Kbytes of VRAM.
			       = 3,072 Kbytes = 3 MB

   I'm pretty sure no macs have this much VRAM, so something else goes on
   behind the scenes. By using Color Look-Up Tables and other methods
   (somebody help me here...Quick), the machine can get by with less VRAM.

   Oh boy. I started out thinking I knew what I was talking about and lost it.
   Hopefully someone else can fill in the magic parts at the end. Everything
   up until the VRAM calculations is correct though (I'm just sue of it). Hope
   this helps.

   Michael Wojcik

Everything you said was fine, until you divided the number of bits needed
by 8 X 100 to get the number of Kbytes. A Kbyte is 1024 bytes, and hence
8 X 1024 = 8192 bits.  So for 640 X 480 X 8 bits, which is 2457600 bits, one
needs 2457600 / 8192 = 300 Kbytes of VRAM.

So no behind the scenes CLUTs or anything to save space.  What the CLUT lets
you do is, in 8 bit mode, pick which 256 colors you want to display out of
all 2^24 = 16,000,000 colors.  But in fact, 640 X 480 at 24 bit color only
needs 1.2MB of VRAM.

--
Roland Dreier                                        dreier@math.berkeley.edu
From: (wine@stress1.nrl.navy.mil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Can't get NCSA Telnet & TCP working
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:20:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.050821.9348@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umcarls9@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Carlson) writes:
In article <1992Sep11.050821.9348@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umcarls9@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Carlson) writes:
> I installed the ethertalk NB drivers from the Network Software Installation
> disk from apple.com and configured TCP.  NCSA telnet shows the Macs IP
> address as I configured it in Mac TCP, I added the name and address of the
> Unix host in the config.tel file, but it just keeps telling me that the
> Unix host is not responding.  The PC has network traffic indicator lights
> and none of them ever light up, so nothing is even making it to the wire!
> 
> I'm not using a DNS and I've clicked Manually for IP address assignment.


I've been setting up similar systems.  
Some additional ?'s:
   1.  Are you trying to use the E-NB for TCP/IP and Built in for AppleTalk or
                                                       E-NB for both?
  2. When in the MacTPC control pannel, which network option is selected?

I have most of my machines set to use the E-NB for both TCP/IP and AppleTalk (ie. network control pannel is
set to EtherTalk 2).  And the MacTCP is set to the "ethernet" port. (Though I have had conflicting results, try each setting)



hmmmm..........that's all I can think of right now...


Jim

wine@stress1.nrl.navy.mil
-------------------------------------------
"Go Jump Out'a Plane" !-)
From: pdp@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Paul Douglas Page)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Appleshare PC
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:48:08 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne

I am trying to get Appleshare PC running on a Western Digital 8013W ethernet
card. Has anyone found drivers that will do this either shareware or commercial?
Appleshare PC only seems to come with drivers for 3COM ethernt boards.

Thanks in advance.

From: Henry.M..Halff@p932.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Henry M. Halff)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Importing FAX numbers into FAXsts
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 15:42:54 -0500

Elliotte Rusty Harold to All about "Importing FAX numbers into FAXsts" at
4:59:09 PM on  9/5/92

  ER> I was wondering if anyone either knew how to import a file of
  ER> names and FAX numbers from a text file into FAXstf or alternately knew
  ER> the format in which FAXstf stores such information.

STF supplies an unsupported utility called "Fax Utilities" that has this
capability. The text files are tab delimited. The order of fields is given in a
dialog box when you initiate the import or export. Reading from that box--

1. Company Name
2. Fax Phone Number
3. Voice Phone Number
4. Last Name
5. First Name
6. Title

hh
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dwade@svcdudes.com
Subject: Re: Telnet tool for Microphone
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 19:27:50 GMT

	At MacWorld we showed ftp, but it's not included with Pro at this
time.  I don't know what state it is in.  One assumes that it and any 
future related products (SLIP, say) will eventually become part of Pro
as we produce them.  I assume that there will be some way to get the 
additional tools if you're a Pro owner, but I don't know what they'll
decide about the details.
	As for Loran, any future modules could go in Pro, or in both, or
be pay-per-module, or almost anything when the time comes.

Doug
From: jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Microphone with 3rd-party telnet tools
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:05:02 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

In the process of comparing VT320 emulators for use with TCP/IP over a
LocalTalk-Ethernet bridge, I discovered that MicroPhone v4.0.1 can be used with
at least some third party Comm ToolBox telnet tools.

In particular, Microphones VT320 emulator will work with The VersaTerm Pro
Telnet tool and with the TCPack tool from Advanced Software Concepts.  It will
not work with the TCP tool that comes with Reflection.

So while you're waiting for Software Ventures to come out with the Microphone
telnet tool, you might want to look in your Communications folder to see if
you already have soemthing that will work.

John Moulder (jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu)
Radiation Biology Group
Medical College of Wisconsin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: crispy@space.mit.edu (Chris Pak)
Subject: Re: MacX w/ a modem
Reply-To: crispy@space.mit.edu (Chris Pak)
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:52:26 GMT


In article <aboba-040992213709@192.187.134.3>, aboba@world.std.com (Bernard Aboba) writes:
> In article <14835@borg.cs.unc.edu>, welchg@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Greg Welch)
> wrote:
> > 
> > Can anyone give me information about using MacX w/ a modem?  Specifically I
> > was wondering where I could find a "communications tool" that will work
> > with MacX.  When I try to chose the host/tool to use a modem (for a remote
> > command) "Apple Modem Tool" and "Serial Tool" are greyed out.  The manual
> > says something lame like "some modem tools will not work w/ MacX."
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > P.S.  E-Mail would be great
> 
> What you need is SLIP and MacTCP. This will allow you to use MacX over a
> modem. 
> 
> I recommend VersaTerm SLIP; it's the easiest to set up, although it's not
> as flexible as MacSLIP. It runs $87 for the entire VersaTerm package,
> which now includes a Telnet tool, SLIP, FTP client and server, and time
> server.  The documentation on VersaTerm SLIP isn't as good as MacSLIP, but
> then the software's easier to set up.
> 
> I've used both MacSLIP and VersaTerm SLIP; both support compression,
> scripting. MacSLIP also supports bootp dynamic address assignment, while
> VersaTerm SLIP does not. 
> 
> Of course you'll also need a SLIP host for this. Good luck! I used netcom;
> cost is $20/month plus $2/hr. 
> 


I have a NCSA/BYU Telnet 2.5 and it has SLIP connection. Is this equivalent to VersaTerm SLIP and MacSLIP?

----------------------------------------------------------------
Christopher S. Pak
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Center for Space Research
37-662c
email: crispy@space.mit.edu
phone: (617) 253-9342



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: kornfeld@leland.stanford.edu (Judith Kornfeld)
Subject: Modems for Sale
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 18:03:52 GMT

		FOR SALE!
1. CDS (Concord Data Systems/TeleGlobe) 224 Autodial Modem...
Full-duplex, 2400 bps
Bell 212 compatible
CCITT compatible
Front panel, keyboard, s/w-controlled
or EIA interface selection of synchronous/asynchronous modes
FCC, part 68 registered direct interface
Extensive test/diagnostic features

New:	$695
Asking:	$200

2. Dove Desktop Fax Modem, 2400/9600.
Full 1-yr. warranty

Street Price:$219
Asking:	$175.
Includes transformer, cable, full documentation.

3. COSTAR LabelWriter II.
Unused, full warranty.

Street Price:	$199
Asking:		$175

email: kornfeld@leland.stanford.edu
voice: (415)327-2216
From: ray@sfu.ca (Ray Davison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Eudora SFU *almost* does it right...help?
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:37:41 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Computing Services

In article <1992Sep11.171437.5490@mdd.comm.mot.com>, jackb@mdd.comm.mot.com
(Jack Brindle) wrote:
> 
> I wonder if maybe the smtp server is trying to interpret the X-attachment
> line in the header, deciding it can't, and throwing up its "hands" in
> response. The best way to find out, of course, is to connect a comm
> monitor/analyzer in line between the Mac and modem to view the data
> being transferred. Second best would be to turn on the trace facility
> that Ray has added in his C- script facility (You _ARE_ using the
> SFU variant, right?). Viewing the actual communications data should
> be very enlightening...
> 

Turning on the trace stuff won't help. The trace function was added to help
debug scripts and only traces the script. Once the connection is made and
Eudora gets control to send and/or receive mail the trace code is no longer
in the picture.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: qmdbms@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Brian Schott)
Subject: Re: Mac BBS software.... what options are there ?
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:15:30 GMT

Our local Users Group is VERY serious about getting a Mac-based BBS host
system and is reviewing FirstClass and NovaLink most seriously.  Has there
been an active discussion of these and other such systems in this news-
group?  If so, can someone provide a synopsis, please?

BTW  we have a PCBoard system now with 5 phone lines.  

Thank you in advance.


-- 
Brian Schott/Decision Sciences Dept.             qmdbms@gsusgi2.gsu.edu
College of Business Administration                         404-651-4070
Georgia State University                  interests: approx. reasoning,
Atlanta, Georgia USA 30303-3083     (B=)       decision support systems
From: cr@cs.strath.ac.uk (Chris Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ISDN and Apple
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:31:59 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Strathclyde, Glasgow, UK

Has anybody got any information about products that exist for the
Mac involving ISDN? Are there any plans to make full use of ISDN nets?
Anybody got any experience with ISDN (N or B) and Macs?
I am compiling a report on the impact of ISDN on office automation etc.
and would like to hear about anything that even remotely involves ISDN
and the Mac. I'll post a summary.

Mail cr@cs.strath.ac.uk

Thanks,

	Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ulbrich@informatik.uni-ulm.de (Jan Ulbrich)
Subject: ConnectionTool for MacTCP?
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 07:47:17 GMT

Hi there,

I'm looking for a ConnectionTool for the CTB to access the Internet.
Is there a pd version? I don't want to use SLIP.

Thanks for answer and have a nice day, Jan

///
o-o
 L   flynn (remember tron?)
 _   ulbrich@informatik.uni-ulm.de

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From: wmporter@jetson.uh.edu (William M. Porter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Source for FAXstf software?
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:16:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bu0w7r.BIz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Erik A.
Johnson) writes... 

>A number of the Fax/Modem manufacturers package a program called FAXstf with 
>their Fax modems.  Are there any sources for just the software alone?  Price? 

My handy-dandy manual has the following addresses/phone numbers on it:

   STF Technologies, Inc.
   Junction I-70 & HWY 23 
   Concordia, MO 64020
   Voice phone: 816-463-2021
   FAX: 816-463-7958

It's good software. Came free with my Zoom fax/data modem, but would easily be
worth $50 to $100 as a stand-alone package, the way these things are priced
today.

William Porter 
Internet: wmporter@jetson.uh.edu
Classical Languages: University of Houston
From: mlbizer@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Marc Bizer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: $$$$ help with Zmodem 0.9 $$$$$
Date: 12 Sep 92 23:36:41 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d10
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6D7E79DA201B97C@slip-24.ots.utexas.edu>
X-XXDate: Sat, 12 Sep 92 18:29:49 GMT

In article <9209090839.AA01541@mackay.mpce.mq.edu.au> ,
s3007904@MACKAY.MPCE.MQ.EDU.AU writes:
>KERMIT AT THE SUNS END TO BEGIN THE TRANSACTION HOWEVER IT FAILS AT MY
MACEND. 

Dear Stussy,
        ZTERM 0.9 doesn't support the Kermit protocol, but the X, Y, and
Zmodem protocols. You need MacKermit (you can get it from
sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the /comm subdirectory) or a commercial program
such as Hayes SmartComm). Alternatively, you can try the UNIX command
rz/sz
which may be on your system.
        I hope this helps.
        Sincerely yours,
        Marc Bizer
From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Telnet tool for Microphone
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:12:54 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

> 	I don't have any official date or anything, but...
> 	Tool's done, manual's done, it's going with 4.0.2 as well.  We have 
> to duplicate however many our installed base is and package everything up and 
> let the post office do its thing.  I don't know how long all of that's going 
> to take, but it shouldn't be too long, one would assume.
> 	The tool's really nice.  It's scriptable, and much faster than the
> other ones I've used.  You can be the judge. If you'ld like I can post 
> something when I hear that they've officially been mailed out.
> 	Please note that the eventual situation is that the telnet tool
> is part of MicroPhone Pro, but current MicroPhone II users get it as well
> because we'd already promised it to then.  If you buy MicroPhone II in
> a month, say, you wouldn't get the tool.

	So what else can we expect in Microphone Pro?  I've heard you'll
be wrapping FAXstf into it.  If that's going to be scriptable I could use it 
NOW.  Is Microphone Pro going to be an upgrade to Microphone II like Filemaker 
Pro was to Filemaker II?  Or are the two products going to be developed 
concurrently like VersaTerm and VersaTerm Pro?  There's still a lot of room
for improvement in MPII.  If 4.02 had come out in Summer, 1991 like originally
planned, it would have been a lot more impressive than it is now, more than
a year later and facing competition from Comm Toolbox Savvy, TCP/IP savvy
applications like PacerTerm.  And what sort of price point 
can we expect?  MPII is already the second most expensive telecommunications 
package for the Mac.  Unless you're adding a compiler to the scripting language 
so that we can use it to create stand-alone products with no runtime fees, I 
just don't see much of a market for a $400 telecom package.

Elliotte Rusty Harold		Department of Mathematics
elharo@m.njit.edu		New Jersey Institute of Technology
erh0362@tesla.njit.edu		Newark, NJ 07102