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From: Tim Dudley <dudley.chi@xerox.com>
Subject: Re: Cooking The Catch--Rocky Mountain Whitefish
Organization: bnr
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     <92Aug14.203413.20337@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:54:00 GMT

In article <92Aug14.014415.25760@acs.ucalgary.ca> Charles Parr,
parr@acs.ucalgary.ca writes:
>Every year I catch 3-4 nicesized whitefish whilst fishing for
>Browns on the Bow river. I always let them go, because I have
>no idea how to cook them.

We always used to smoke them.  They're pretty oily, and I never
liked scaling them, so smoking seemed to be the answer.  They
do smoke up really well.

Anyone out there got a good brine recipe for smoking fish?

Tim
Xref: sparky rec.outdoors.fishing:319 alt.fishing:2932
From: dellis@Auspex.COM (David Ellis)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing,alt.fishing
Subject: salmon fishing
Keywords: salmon
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:26:57 GMT
Followup-To: dellis
Distribution: ca





		A FISHIN I WILL GO..   
		A FISHIN I WILL GO... 
		THIS IS FOR ALL YOU SALMON OUT THERE 
		A FISHIN I WILL GO.....

		
		a friend of mine just went last weekend
		and hooked (7) and lost (3) (snapped
		his line)  average weight was 25 lb's 
		This was all in approx. 4-5 hours.

		I'll give you a report on how I do,
		I`m going for (4) days,mostly catch 
		and release.


		UNTIL THEN  SEE Y`ALL       

	Dave Ellis 


	A GOOD DAY FISHING IS LEAVING ALL PROBLEMS BEHIND.
From: pike@fishing.Eng.Sun.COM (Steve Pike - Sun Customer Service)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Date: 17 Aug 1992 15:02:22 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: fishing.east.sun.com


>question: Where can I buy a better rod case?

I built my own case for traveling and it works
quite well. Use PVC pipe 1" or 2" depending
on how many rods you want to carry. Cement
a cap on one end (the bottom) and use a coller
with a screw in fitting on the other end(the top).
If you want to secure it, drill a hole throught the 
coller and fitting, loop a cable through it and 
put a lock through it. 

IN any event it's VERY strong and will not break.
Hope this helps.

Steve
From: mike@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike McNelly)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:56:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Setting the Hook
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing

> Okay, I'll throw myself on your mercies: I'm a novice.  I've caught a
> few fish over the years, mostly sunnies or trout on bait.  I have a
> Really Basic Question:
> 
  > How, exactly, do I "set the hook"?
> 
> I mean, I hate it when I pull in an undersized trout who has swallowed
> my hook.  I'd much rather just ease it out of his jaw and send him on
> his way.  Is there something I can learn to do, to hook him there
> rather than let him swallow the whole thing down to his ankles?
> 
> -- 
  > Christine King
    > Internet: bcking@hq.ileaf.COM
    > US Mail:  Interleaf, Inc. / 9 Hillside Avenue / Waltham MA 02154 USA

Typically, it's been my experience that fish which are caught on bait
frequently tend to swallow everything, including the hook.  Fish which
are caught by artificial flies tend to be hooked in the lip, although
they do swallow flies on occasion.

In other words, it may have more to do with the method you use for
fishing rather than any minor flaws in your technique.

Mike McNelly
mike@fc.hp.com
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 12 Aug 1992 13:32:43 EDT
From: <RAYSTOUT@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Tipping your guide

Normally, you would tip 15% or 20%, depending on how the guide works to
put you on to fish.  Guides normally, should be paid in cash.  They
don't really want gifts of fishing items, since they usually have
too much already.
Xref: sparky rec.outdoors.fishing:258 rec.backcountry:6273
From: grego@bit.UUCP (Greg Sanguinetti)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing,rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Wanted Large FLATBOTTOM-CHEAP!!!
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:24:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: bit.403
Reply-To: grego@bit.UUCP (Grego Sanguinetti)
Organization: BIT  Portland, OR

Actually I think there are a number of elements that contribute to the
whole fishing experience. I grew up in Southern California, launching
fishing boats through the surf, off the beach. Big motors where absolutely
essential, unless you wanted to die young. Charging out through the surf
was half the fun. Then you had to troll fast, like 12 knots, to lure
the old tuna to your feather rigs.

I've lived in the north west for the last 12 years and the experience
is quite different. Most of my fishing is done without a motor at all.
I do have a little 16 foot aluminum bass boat with a 35 horse that
seems about right for most trips (that require a motor). It is a little
too fast for fresh water trolling. That's when I use the electric motor.

It is kind of nice to be able to buzz over to another part of the lake,
or river, without it taking a half hour. The extra power is nice to
push the bow up and over the wind breakers. It makes those runs against
the wind a little nicer.

When it is all said and done, I like the part where we turn off the
motor and start drifting and casting the best!

-grego
-- 
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From: daryl@bovill.auspex.com (Daryl Starr)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Panfish? (Was: Re: Keeping cheese on a fish hook?)
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:51:38 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Auspex Systems

In article <1992Aug18.180641.28240@uvm.edu>, jmc@emba-news.uvm.edu.UUCP (John Connors) writes:
|> 
|> Why are they called panfish?  I have never met anyone who even heard
|> of anyone eating a sunfish or bluegill.  In the northern half of the US,
|> yellow perch are considered a decent panfish.  In fact, nearby
|> Lake Champlain used to be consider the perch capital of the US.  There is
|> brisk commercial perch fishing in the winter.  Down South, I have heard
|> the term 'Bream' and understood it to mean pumpkinseeds, bluegills, and
|> others in the sunfish family which are not large/smallmouth bass.

A panfish is a small food fish not available on the market. I suspect that the definition
varies with locality depending on what is commercially fished.

I used to live in Idaho where all the lakes had yellow perch (sometimes known as tiger perch)
and found them easy to catch and very delicious. Lots of hair-thick bones as I recall, unlike
sunfish. The predominent sunfish was pumpkinseed. Quite tasty, but didn't get very big. They
would travel in schools swimming with their dorsal fin just above the water pretending
to be sharks.

I currently live in CA. We have a nice sunfish here called redear that makes for excellent
eating and grows to a decent size. The bluegill can get very large. Does anyone know the
record size? I think it's around 3 or 4 lbs.

|> 
|> If we are to believe the fishing shows when they say:
|> 	"If you want table fish, go for bream..."
|> 
|> OK, I am willing.  How do you clean them?  Any recipes?  I can make
|> a chowder out of anything.  (Being a New Englander, it's genetic. :-) )


Cut just behind the head down to about halfway through the fish. Pull the head from the body.
The entrails should follow. Hold the fish with tail away from you and insert a narrow blade
between the skin and flesh at the right top of the back. Push the blade past the dorsal fin and
then lift. Repeat for left side of the back. Hold fish flat in palm with tail towards you and
grasp with fingers. Using a dull butter knife, grab the skin between knife edge and thumb at
the top and front of the fish. Pull skin towards you. It should peel off easily. Repeat for
opposite side. Holding fish with tail away from you, grab the dorsal fin with the butter knife
and pull towards you. It should come out easily. Turn fish over and repeat for remaining fin.
Is this called the anal fin? Tail is optional.

Shake fish in plastic bag with flour, salt, pepper and favorite spices. Pan fry. Mmmmmm good.
Enjoy!


Daryl
From: xchen@cs.purdue.EDU (Alex Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: find a place for fishing--help needed
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:35:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

I like to go fishing this weekend but do not know where is the best
and closest place for fishing near Purdue. Can anyone who knows the
places kindly mail or post the information for me?

Thanks. 

Alex

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit)
Subject: Re: need some help on how to get started...
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:19:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

mwang@netcom.com ( ) writes:

>Hi folks! I need some help with how to get started with this sport.
>Any suggestions (eg what kind of gear should I get, what is the
>right price, where is the right/good place to fish etc etc?)
>There are so many questions a beginner could ask...

The gear and good places to fish all depend on what you are looking to catch.   
Tell us about the area where you live and the type of water you plan on fishing 
(large reservoirs, small lakes, rivers, streams etc...)

Given this information, I'm sure someone can give you a few tips. 


			-Ron
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: Fishin' Extravagance
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:11:52 GMT

plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:

>'Tell you what Roger, I'll come and haul some of those useless decaying 
>eyesore nautical hulks out of your front yard FREE OF CHARGE!!!


>		-Pat.
	Since you brought it up:
	How about a Starcraft 14' runabout with a 50 HP Chrysler for $295?
	That's almost giving it away since the new lower unit and tuneup 
	cost more than that.  The (water sking) kids are gone and like
	I said, I can catch more from shore near home so I don't need it.
From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Colorado Fishing All Tied up in Nylon!
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:15:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.BszK1q.rA
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:


>I think that it is a law that bait shop owner and marina managers 
>must tell you that fishing is fantastic.  It is also a law that 
>dedicated anglers will attempt to misdirect you.  If I do my homework 
>and discover the magic combination for the day/week/etc, I would not 
>insult someone else by denying them the chance to figure it out 
>for themselves (the true joy of fishing!)!!

	If you are on the way to fish, it definitely in their interest
	to see that you catch fish.  False reports only tell people
	to go somewhere else for their bait/info.  I have been fishing
	all over the US and Canada and I have never been given false
	or highly exagerrated information.  Maybe it's the way I ask.

>How many people have tried to fight and boat a fish without being seen 
>by those other three boats that are in the area?  I would rather lose 
>the fish (unless it's a tournament) than give out free advice by way 
>of example.

	I'm glad I don't fish where you do.  When I ask for help, the
	vast majority of people are only too glad to oblige.  Sure,
	a few people don't want to expose their honey holes or 
	techniques, but I don't mind doing so at all.  Of course
	I'm wierd.  I'd rather show somebody how to catch fish and
	watch them succeed then catch them myself (most of the time).
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: plh@ecemw6.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Subject: Re: Surf Rod Casting Distance?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:29:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.023641.2478@intelhf.hf.intel.com>, labelle@intelhf.hf.intel.com (George La Belle) writes:
|> 
|> 	The tricks in long distance casting are; 1) large open face reel
|> 	with low drag. 2) light line with a heavy "shock leader" 3) Long

I am not a surf fisherman (yet) but I always thought that revolving 
spool (baitcasting) reels were the ticket to long casts in the surf. 
The line friction for 17#test going over the spool lip of a spinning 
reel must be tremendous.

Anyone care to educate me?

		-Pat.
From: u8705114@cs.uow.edu.au (Anthony Thomas Cusack)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Fishing in OZ
Summary: fishing in oz
Keywords: australia
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:25:07 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

It's nice to read all the posts from American fisho's
but what about something from the Australian's.

In prticular, I want to know about the practicality of
fishing for trout on saltwater rod's and reels.
I for one don't want to buy  fly rod, reel and line
for a few days a year of fishing.

If the response warrents it I will summarise and post to the group.

Anthony Cusack
u8705114@cs.uow.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: mrein3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Matt Rein #3)
Subject: Night Fishing in the RAIN ;(
To: rec.outdoors.fishing
Posted-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 07: 59:27 cdt
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:59:27 GMT
Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 07: 59:36 CDT

> 
> MY THOUGHTS (briefly)
> 1: Fish BLACK topwaters near any humps, structure, or cover
Black Noisy (Jitterbugs, buzz baits) topwater baits.
> 2: Try shoreline for a while.. THEN MOVE SHALLOW
I nailed a 18 incher in about 6 inches of water near an island the other
night.  10 pm and very bright moonlight, brown topwater bait.
> 3: BRING LOTS OF COFFEE......
Bring lots of beers.
> 

--
Matt Rein
mrein3@cfsmo.honeywell.com
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: jmc@emba-news.uvm.edu.UUCP (John Connors)
Subject: Re: Bream (bluegill) eating
Originator: jmc@newton.emba.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:07:00 GMT

From article <ASH.92Aug19085001@ulysses.mr.ams.com>, by ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder):
> 
> But lake perch are even better than walleye, and definitely better
> than sunfish or bluegills, IMHO.  Bass aren't even in my top ten of
> good-eating fish.
> 

I have many found memories of perch frys in my grandmother's trailer.  I
especially enjoyed the fried perch eggs.  Yum!  (Honest!)  In winter,
I found myself hoping more for perch and smelt than for the customary
gamefish.  Fried smelt is also an excellent finger food, no filleting
necessary, de-head, de-gut, and into de frying pan.  Talk about eating
your bait.

JC in VT.

-- 
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238 Waterman Building            E-Mail: jmc@uvm.edu, jmc@uvmvax.bitnet
University of Vermont            "Really, I am a computing professional." 
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Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: matulka@convex.com (Jerry Matulka)
Subject: Hawaiin bill fishing experience
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:07:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I was wondering if anyone out there in net land has ever been deep sea
fishing off Hawaii?  If anyone has ever experienced this, could you tell
me what the best time of the year to go is, what conditions might be like
at the end of October, and any good or bad charter experiences that you 
have had there.

Also while I'm asking, if you have any bill fishing experience anywhere,
I'd be interested in hearing those stories as well. (And by bill fishing
I do not mean trying to scrape up the money to pay for that new whiz-bang
rod and reel that you purchased last week :^)

thanks,
_____________________________________________________________________________
|Jerry Matulka       Phone: (214)497-4305         Email: matulka@convex.COM |
|3000 Waterview Parkway, P.O. Box 833851, Richardson, Texas USA 75083-3851  |
|___________________________________________________________________________|
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: bpencek@nevada.edu (Bruce Pencek)
Subject: Outer Banks (was Surf Rod Casting Distance?)
Organization: Political Science Department, UNLV
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:48:10 GMT

(Stuff deleted on Hatteras, including very sound advice to PRACTICE)

>The real key is being in the right place at the right time.  Get out
>to the Point at Buxton at sunrise or sunset.  Even if you don't catch
>any fish, sunrise at the Point will make your day!

Do you have any tricks for making all the 4x4s disappear?  I fished
Hatteras regularly from 1965-79, and have returned every couple of years
since, but the traffic at the point got too thick and weird (though the walk 
to the Point seemed to shorten since the first time I'd done it, at age 10...)
Even worse, from a salt-water fly-rodder's standpoint, the old Easter storm
dredge hole in the Sound near Avon was been taken over by Canadian windsurfers!

My sad experience fishing on both coasts has been that windsurfers seem pretty
decnt individually, bad in packs, but on the whole better than surfers, but
jet skiers rank with skateboarders for self-indulgent, inconsiderate barbarity.
(Has anyone seen interesting anti-jet ski t-shirts or banners?  The best I've
seen (in Islamorada) were a profile of a jet ski in a periscope crosshairs,
and a variation on the clockface-and-distance Flats guide telling his client
where to cast to bonefish: the guide gives the instructions to a machine
gunner.)

But at least they can enjoy moving water, whereas I live in a thrice-over wasteland.  Sigh.  
-bruce

-- 
Bruce Pencek                     bpencek@nevada.edu
Political Science Dept           bpencek@nevada2.bitnet
University of Nevada, Las Vegas  (702) 739-3307
"Just because I work at UNLV, it doesn't mean I support basketball."
From: USERID@bunny.gte.com (PERSONAL NAME)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: New Fly Fishing Club in Central Massachusetts
Date: 12 Aug 92 11:36:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTEL

I have recently joined a new fly fishing club that is the best thing I 
have yet to see. The club is located in Shrewsbury MA. and has three ponds 
stocked with rainbows to 7 pounds, brookies to 4 pounds and some real big 
browns. The club is strictly for serious fly fishers and has a nice club 
house and the grounds are big enough that we are planning to have some big 
functions this fall. TU has shown some interest in holding their fall 
outing at our club. The thing that makes this place so nice is the natural 
setting , the ponds are set in a valley and are all spring fed. The trout 
are not fed and live on natural feed throughout the fishing season. And, 
believe me they are selective and don't strike at anything that moves. The 
smallest pond is reserved for handicapped fly fishers and has wheelchair 
access. The pond holds some of the biggest trout I have ever seen. How 
about rainbows in the ten pound range? 
I have no personal stake in this club but felt that it is to good not to 
tell others about it. I know that the membership is still open and is 
quite reasonable. One membership is good for unlimited fishing throughout 
the year. The other interesting thing about this place is that all the 
fish are raised on site in twelve specially designed tanks, right now one 
tank has rainbows and brookies of three to four pounds ready for release 
into the main pond.
The name of the club is Stonewall Farm Flyfishing Club, if you are 
interested please let me know and I will give you more information.

Jim Kaye 
GTE Laboratories Inc.
Waltham, MA.
From: Nothing <nothing@nowhere>
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Date: 18 Aug 1992 22:41:24 GMT
Organization: Nothing
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In article <92Aug14.215538.16875@acs.ucalgary.ca> Jim B. Powlesland,
powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca writes:
>question: Where can I buy a better rod case?

You can find high-quality aluminum rod cases at a high-quality fishing
store, such as Orvis, or a custom rod shop.  They will run you from
$20-$50 and are fully water-resistant and very attractive.  If you have a
very nice rod it may be worth your while to invest in such a case.
From: plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Colorado Fishing All Tied up in Nylon!
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:51:53 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <Bsz8tC.CB3@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor) writes:
|> 	Back to the practical.  If you want good information, go to local
|> 	area (lake area) bait shops ON THE WAY to fishing.  Ask very 
|> 	specific questions, such as: Any bass come in yet this morning
|> 	(yesterday)?  What were they caught on?  How were they fishing?

I think that it is a law that bait shop owner and marina managers 
must tell you that fishing is fantastic.  It is also a law that 
dedicated anglers will attempt to misdirect you.  If I do my homework 
and discover the magic combination for the day/week/etc, I would not 
insult someone else by denying them the chance to figure it out 
for themselves (the true joy of fishing!)!!

How many people have tried to fight and boat a fish without being seen 
by those other three boats that are in the area?  I would rather lose 
the fish (unless it's a tournament) than give out free advice by way 
of example.

		-Pat.
From: khui@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Kelvin Y. Hui)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Here is the address of Saltwater Sportsmen
Date: 20 Aug 1992 18:24:29 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu

Sorry my email to ega015@comp.lancs.ac.uk keep on bouncing so here it goes:

SaltWater Sportsman
P.O.Box 11357
Des Moines, IA 50347-1357

the retail price is $3/issue, but on sale for $19.95/12 issues if order
directly.  It will take 30-60 days for the first issue to deliver.  I ordered
mine almost 6 weeks ago but haven't received the first issue yet.

Kelvin Hui
From: kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Hawaiin bill fishing experience
Date: 22 Aug 92 15:17:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Colorado State University -- Atmos Sci

In article <1992Aug21.190700.12781@news.eng.convex.com> matulka@convex.com (Jerry Matulka) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone out there in net land has ever been deep sea
>fishing off Hawaii?  If anyone has ever experienced this, could you tell
>me what the best time of the year to go is, what conditions might be like
>at the end of October, and any good or bad charter experiences that you 
>have had there.
>

Been fishing off of Kona before. We caught some tuna near a man-made reef,
but hooked no marlin.

However, this is the nature of offshore fishing. You don't hook a marlin
on every trip. But i understand it can be very good. In fact, they sometimes
hook marlin without sight of the shore, since the ocean becomes very deep
within a few hundred feet of Kona!

I understand also this is the best time of year to fish for tuna, if I remember
correctly. Picture acres of huge tuna crashing the surface! Too much fun!

Pat Fitzpatrick