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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Telephones in Japan
Date: 24 Dec 92 11:19:29 GMT

thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen) writes:

>In article <3507@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

>[...] 
> > Come to think of it, when I got the 0070 service they came out and
> > installed a Q-box (no extra charge) which automatically adds '0070'
> > in front of what you dial if it will save you money. 
> > 
> > Dave

>Dave,

>I've never heard of this 0070  service. Could you  please explain what
>it is? Suppose one can test it for a while w/o  Q-box, by just dailing
>0070 first, desho?

0070 is Telway Japan. The number in Osaka is 06-949-0070. Like the
other companies (0088, etc.) you dail 0070 before the number and it
switches to their system. To enable the switching there is something
that must be done at NTT which costs 2,500 yen (to NTT) so you can't
just try it. 

The Q-box is installed between your handset and the line coming from
the poll to the fusebox and automatically detects whether you will
save money by using 0070 and, if so, puts 0070 in front of the
number before dialing (an LED lights up when it has done so).
Further, if you are subscribed to 0088 it will route to that company
as well (you only have to pay the 2,500 yen charge to NTT one time).

Hope that fills you in,

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087



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From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Roman Hikou (was: Pheromones,otoko,and cabs)
Date: 31 Dec 1992 18:14:31 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu

In article <C049LF.8zo@ecf.toronto.edu> murraya@ecf.toronto.edu 
(MURRAY ALEXANDER W) writes:

  >So what kind of mileage have _you_ been getting, assuming you follow all of
  >your own advice to others?
  >
  >Just curious.

My mileage has varied from past to present but I've observed a lot on the
way.  And like it says in my disclaimer...I am really good at shooting
the breeze. :-)  But I would honestly say that by following the steps I
posted, I've generated *many* encounters and opportunities for
friendships.  Where a relationship goes after the initial friendship is
personal.

You probably want a score or tally sheet of conquests, right?  Sorry.  
I'm not much into that macho stuff.  Kinda chauvinistic and sleezy, 
don't you agree?  IMHO, in this day and age of shallow, self-centered, 
me relationships, and sexually transmitted diseases there's a lot to be 
said about solid friends and a single, lasting, monogamous relationship.

But what would you do to hear direct comments from ladies like:
 - "You're a _really_ nice guy.  Are you married?" or
 - "You're smart, kind, and considerate" or
 - "I really want to see you again..."
 - "Here's my address and phone number...please call me!"
 - "Eeto, anoo, issho ni kaerinai ka?" 
Better yet, how about comments among the ladies at the office, like:
 - "Isn't this so cute!  Guess who gave it to me...He's so sweet."
 - "He's so darling...He remembered my birthday when even you forgot!"
 - "Yeah...he knows how to treat women right..."

I know hearing those comments would make me feel like I'm pretty much on
the right track. :-)

Jaa, James
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From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: Re: Hus Fu and the Japanese
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 00:32:20 GMT

In article <1hd6u5INNsvu@agate.berkeley.edu> jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu) writes:

>Instead of beating back and forth subjective arguments based on untested
>theories about cultural origins, if you really want to quantify how closely
>related Japanese, Korean, Chinese and other far east Asians culturally
>AND genetically are, then the first step is just a relatively straight 
>forward RNA protein test.  The data will quantify the similarities as
>well as subtle differences.

   Probably, the most sensitive and useful tool to analyze the genetic
relationship between subgroups in the same species should be the
comparison of mitochondrial (mt) DNA. (I once collaborated with a researcher
who was studying the genetic variance of malaria-bearing mosquitos
and designed an experimental protocol for purifying mt DNA from a small
number of mosquitos.)
   The analysis of mt DNA has been actually used to track down the first
female Homo sapiens, who was reported to be a black African (the paper was
published a few years ago).

>  The data is probably already available, so
>for those anthro-majors out there who have been reluctant to get dirty
>with quantitative data, your arguments back and forth on the net are bogus 
>until you've checked the data out and done some analysis.

   I don't think there are sufficient molecular biological data for anyone 
to say anything conclusive about the genetic relationship among Asian
people.

>You've got the technology...why don't you use it?

   There are several reasons.

[1] The mt DNA analysis is not yet a completely reliable technology. The
    first Homo sapiens story above is still controversial. Depending on
    the algorithm or logic used for the computational analysis, a totally
    different conclusion could be drawn from the same data.

[2] Sampling errors should be considered. Depending on who are picked up
    as representative samples of Japanese, Chinese, Koreans or whatever,
    the result could be different. In order to avoid the effect of
    sampling errors, a significantly large number of samples collected
    from a variety of areas should be analyzed. It is easier said than done.

[3] A budget problem. Simply, someone has to pay for it. Unless someone
    finds a practical merit in this type of large scale study, it might 
    be hard to get a financial support.

[4] Difficulty in the international collaboration. This type of study would 
    require rather an intimate relationship between countries involved. 
    For example, it should be necessary for South Korean scientists to
    communicate freely with North Korean scientists.

   I personally think that this type of molecular anthropology is an
interesting field and should contribute to a human knowledge. Would anyone 
be interested in giving me an opportunity to organize it?

--Michiaki
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: Japanese Movies
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:20:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.051752.20459@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:

MUCH DELETED ...
   Also, note that all Japanese films would qualify for, at most,
   a "R" rating in the USA; I suspect that the sole "X" in the "Rating"
   column should really be a "R".

   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Japanese name              English name            Director     Rating
   ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Kazoku Game              Family Game
   Ai no Koridaa      In The Realm Of The Senses                     X

BALANCE DELETED

Nope, "Ai, no Koridaa," which was made in the United States,
incidentally, by a Japanese company (to get around the prudish
anti-genitalia laws in Japan, presumably), is *definitely* an X. How
else to describe scenes of graphic fellatio, intercourse, gang-rape
with a dildo, and S/M sexuality? This sounds pretty raunchy, but it's
not really. I don't usually like "X"-rated movies, but this was very
sensual and very compelling, and the fact that it was based on a true
story I found interesting as well.
 
RB
-- 
|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |

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From: seb@stein.u.washington.edu (-s e b a s t i a n-)
Subject: Re: Rie Miyasawa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 09:34:57 GMT

>Anyone a GIF of Rie Miyazawa.  A topless one from Santa Fe would be 
>real cool.  
>  
>Lucky Wakahanada! My question is: just how do they do it?

	gif? i have the orig copy of 'santa fe', i think this is 
	probably better than 1 gif :) she's one of my idols :)
	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: molenda@i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda)
Subject: Re: NSF Summer Institute in Japan
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:20:02 GMT

bluelobster+@CMU.EDU (David O Hunt) writes:

>Anyone applying?

A CSCI student here at the U of MN did it last year.  She did a
presentation after her trip and she had nothing but good things to say
about the program.  She may still be around; her email address seems to
be stuck@iit.nrc.ca.
-- 
Jason Molenda, University of Minnesota, Supercomputer Inst., Technical Support
SGI Iris Admin        molenda@jason.msi.umn.edu       DoD #1867     '77 CB750F
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: brainwashed
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:58:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.082137.10885@news.acns.nwu.edu> japlady@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rebecca Radnor) writes:
>Thirdly, you are falling into a trap that devalues peoples efforts in the
>private/domestic domain.  You are saying that to work in an office is more
>valuable than running a home or raising children.  

Not intended as a flame but:

>Japanese women when faced with these arguements (and I've done interviews
>on this so I'm not just citing literature but my own research as well) want
>to know why their american sisters want them to work in an office where
>there is always someone telling them what to do, rather than in the home
>where they are the boss, on the whole manage the familial accounts, have
>their husband's paychecks made out in the wife's name, and hand out an
>allouance to their husband.  In addition, Japanese wives see their role as
>creating the infrastracture without which non of the public domain could
>funciton. 

Did your research explain why a) Japanese women are marrying later and later
in life b) Japanese women are opting for a career path even after marraige
more than ever before and c) Japanese women have "allowed" (if that's the 
proper word) the birth rate to fall to such an extent that the government is
implementing proposals to encourage women to have more children (among them,
apparantly serious proposals for day care centers for working mothers)?

Further, various 'public opinion polls' indicate that now, more than half of
urban dwelling male shain believe it is perfectly OK for women to continue 
work after marriage and even after children are born. 

In short, your research results do not seem to show that Japanese women are 
much different from those American women who opt (and can afford) to stay
at home.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
one disagreeing is either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally deficient, weak
willed, inconsequential, namby pamby tool of some vaguely defined conspiracy, 
or b) my wife.
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Relative Politeness of Compuserve vs. USENET (Was: STUCK IN TOKYO)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:55:11 GMT

tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu () complains:

>I belong to both Compuserve and USENET. I don't really like all the
>connect charges and other charges associated with CS, but whenever I
>log on there I do notice one thing: THE PEOPLE ARE CIVIL TO EACH
>OTHER!!
...
>Don't get me wrong. In some ways, I prefer the free-wheeling style of
>the Net. But with certain rabid dogs posting madly lately (and you
>know who you are) I sometimes wonder why we can't be like that? Is the
>serious threat of being denied further access to Compuserve (that's
>their policy) really all it takes to turn the rabid dogs that we have
>to put up with into civil, polite human beings? Just wondering.

	Censorship does tend to stifle free expression.  This
is the real world baby.  Politeness gets in the way of information
interchange.

	Yours completely,
-J
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Subject: Re: Brainwashed
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 06:00:38 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <34661@twics.co.jp> dcroz@twics.co.jp writes:
>
>Tetsuya Nishimura writes:
> 
>=}If you can, cuold you just give me information about the material
> 
>     "The Closing of the American Mind," Allan Bloom, 1987
> 
>=}I would call it "evolving" or "developing."
> 
>     Either of those words would seem to imply a progression in the direction
>of "better."
> 
>     Are we then in agreement that some cultures have been and are better than
>others?
> 

	Hmm, maybe.  But you still sound to me you are talking about "whether 
	it's convenient for your life or not."  If it's what you have meant, 
	I agree.  To me, being developed or convenient does not necessarily 
	imply that it is better.  And of course I know in lots of cases it 
	implies so.


					Tetsuya Nishimura

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: strange beverages
Date: 20 Dec 92 08:03:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 

On 12-19-92, RICK JELLIFFE wrote to ALL:

RJ> I thought aoi was blue and bluish-green, rather than being a simple
RJ> cognate of blue. That's what they taught at my school anyway. Is it
RJ> more complicated than that? ...sigh...

Go-lights are "aoi" rather than "midori".  I'm color-blind (red/green)
and don't find the linguistic distinction particularly confusing.  I've
come to associate "midori" is what I see as Crayola green -- that is,
vivid green-green.

In Chinese, there is a distinct color which is produced by the sun
reflecting off of the blue-green scales of a prehistoric dragon.  I
think that this is also "aoi" in Japanese.

Regarding color-blindness (a side trip)...  While a student at the Defense
Language Institute back in '64, we had a quiz one day on colors.  The
instructor would hold up a card and ask the color of that card.  He turned
to me a held up a green (as I saw) card.  "Midori!"  "Chigau, cha-iro!"
Next card, blue this time... "Aoi!"  "Chigau, murasaki!"  Final card for
the quiz, grey...  "Nezumi-iro!"  "momo-iro!"  With visions of going to the
rice paddies of VietNam racing through my head, I blurted out, "Wait...
I'm color-blind and that is green, blue and grey!"  English usage cost
us five cents a word, but this was serious.  The Japanese instructor had
never had a color-blind person in his class before.  From that day on, the
cards had the English name of its color printed on the card.

Regards, Mikey (michael.hagerty@nitelog.com)

 * JABBER v1.3B1 #B042 * I cut it three times and it's still short!
From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: SEXISM IN JAPANESE WORKPLACE!!!!
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:53:34 GMT
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center

In article <1992Dec21.105820.4725@spcvxb.spc.edu>, mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
# In article <BzKy05.3Lz@jrd.dec.com>, doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
# > In article <BzJ4Av.353@CAM.ORG>, cheung@CAM.ORG (Shirley Cheung) writes:
# > # Anyway, I wonder how long will it take to eliminate all the sexist
# > # prejudice held by the corporate society in Japan---> at least to the same
# > # degree in North American. Well, although we still have prejudice in North
# > # Amercia, we have moved quick fast recenty toward sex-equality. For
# > # instance, most of the managers are now females; we have 50% of female
# > # students in Medical and law schook; 25% in engineering...etc. I wonder how
# > # long will the Japanse society take to match the same level of equality as
# > # in North America.
# > 
# > Who says equality is good?

Do you want to deprive women of maternity leave?
Do you want to force women to work overtime 50 hours/month?

# > Who says Japanese women want to be equal..
# 
# This was a joke, right?  I have yet to meet a Japanese woman (and I have
# met many <grin>) who does not express outrage over the situation of
# women in Japan.

They tell you that they are outraged over it and then turn around
and take use all of the advantages that they get..
I know that there are some women who really want to be equal
with men in the work place, but I feel that many do not.
--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan      [from JUNET: doi@jrd.dec-j.co.jp]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: SEXISM IN JAPANESE WORKPLACE!!!!
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:37:57 GMT

In article <BzMtFr.H0q@jrd.dec.com> doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.190036.1892@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st911293@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Sarah) writes:
># In article <BzKy05.3Lz@jrd.dec.com>, doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
># I wonder if you would
># put such a rhetorical question if there were more Japanese
># women on the net. Maybe you feel safe to do so because there
># *are* so few with access to the privileges you have.
>
>Maybe they don't want the net access and privileges..
>
># In any case, I find it personally hard to believe that Japanese
># women as a category would be so different from women in general
># that they would not enjoy developing their full potential without
># hindrance from people like you. 
>
>In Japan's society I think most women are "brainwashed" so that they
>don't want to be equal with men at the workplace.
>Of course there are some women who do.  But this is a very small
>minority, I think.

At the risk of offending LOTS of people (who, me?), I will "sort of" agree with
this. I think that most women in Japan do NOT want the typical Japanese
"sararii-man" life-style, and this may be what you mean here. You can't really
blame women for this, as this is a pretty miserable (IMO) existence, and 
very different from a normal businessman's life here in the west. I beleive
that, outside of that full dedication to the company, women in Japan want over-
all equality with men.

BTW, some Japanese companies (especially large banks) are starting to offer
"intermediate tracks" for their female employees. When a man enters a large
company, he is expected to move where and when the company says, and this can
involve being transferred all over Japan (or the world) on short (or no) notice
for long or short periods of time. The 'non-elite' track involved much less
opportunity for advancement, but far less susceptibility to being moved about.
The "intermediate track" involved transfers in a much more local area, for 
much shorter periods of time, and was designed for women who wished to be 
considered full-fledged employees, but without the total surrender of one's
personal life to the company. What surprised the companies offering this track 
was the number of young MEN who opted for this track.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - Oh come on! You didn't think I was serious, did you?
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: SEXISM IN JAPANESE WORKPLACE!!!!
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:38:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MfBbyVe00Uh_Q4r2EI
	<BzKy05.3Lz@jrd.dec.com>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Ms. Doi writes:

>Who says equality is good?
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

There are many ways to take this question and what it implies. Would you
be as kind as to elaborate. Please?

>Who says Japanese women want to be equal..
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is also a bit hard to swallow. I'm not a woman so, I won't say what
I think that a woman wants. But, as a Japanese, I can say that this
statemant is on the verge of stupidity. And, as a human, I will say that
everyone wants to be equal
once they have tasted the fruit of equality. Also as a great lover of
the Chinese people I could take this statement as being offensive. Who
died and gave 
you the authority to expound that a woman of Chinese ancestry but affectionate
interest/affiliation for Nippon cannot give their opinion about a
"Japanese Women"! But it maybe that I am jumping to conclusions. Maybe
it would be better
to say, "I don't want to be equal to  Japanese men"..(In some respects I
see you point, if what I'm think is your point) But, please go
on...........
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From: fester@etorofu.island.COM ()
Subject: US Immigration
Originator: fester@etorofu
Organization: Island Graphics, Marin County, California
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:29:21 GMT

Recently, I posted that my wife's provisional 2 year 'permanent resident' visa
was up for review. Here's the Reader's Digest version of what happened.

We received a letter from INS, indicating that her visa was about to expire, and
that if she wished to obtain a permanent permanent visa (redundancy intended),
we should send a check for $75 and "any documentation to prove that we are 
legitimately married", or words to that effect. 

We sent:

$75 check (has both of our names on it)

Photocopies of the birth certificates of both our children (one born here, one
born in Japan)

We got:

A letter stating that my wife's permanent permanent status has been approved,
and that we are to get a new 'green card' at our earliest convenience, please
bring 2 recent photos to the address below, etc.

So, except for the $75, fairly painless. 

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - Oh come on! You didn't think I was serious, did you?
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Teenage Group Suicide in Tokyo
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:38:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QfEwf2W00WBOE2JoJh
	<1i0dpeINN1nl@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Robertson writes:

.

>Very sad, very sad!  Japan needs to go beyond its utter fixation on economic
>growth, and begin giving credence to human needs!  The system must stop
>its fascist imposition of conformity.  This incident reflects too well how
>conforming pressures meet a destructive end.  What is despicable, is 
>the superficial public sympathy, but the new despise towards the family of the
>girls as a dirty family, to shun from the neighborhood.  Just because it
>happened to them does not make them "dirty"!  They need that much more 
>support, not despise.

It does not surprise me that Japanese are reacting this way. My country
is in terrible shape. The society is in a fantasy. This was not a family
fault. They are saying in effect that it was in family's fault that the
girls were free enough to do this so publicly. If they were 'contained'
maybe they could have been 'more' quiet about it. This kind of reaction
makes me very, very angry! And, embarrased!

Conformity is nothing!
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