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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Grass field at 49er's
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:14:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1itigrINNcrb@male.EBay.Sun.COM> greg@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM (greg) writes:
>
>I just saw on the local (SF) news that they are replacing the
>torn up grass at Candlestick.  The groundskeeper said that they
>are removing the blugrass (destroyed Sat.) with new bermuda
>grass.
>
>Is this legal?

Yes, the NFL has a rule against replacing bermuda with bluegrass but 
nothing against replacing bluegrass with bermuda.  Just another one of 
those wierd quirks in the rule book.

>Anyhow, this should help the Cowboys, IMHO.

Come on now, it doesn't favor anybody.  What do you think?  One team 
is more likely than another to trip over a clump of sod?  Let's not 
over analyse here.  (This goes for people saying the Cowboys have a 
disadvantage because they don't know how to play on grass also.  
Anybody who thinks the turf/grass thing is going to be a *significant* 
factor is kidding themselves.)

JGH
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From: Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu>
Subject: Cowboys/9ers bet proposition
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:30:16 GMT

	This post is to propose a bet between the 9ers and Cowboys fans.  I'm
not sure what to bet, but what I was thinking had something to do with
humiliation rather than money.  A few years back, my friend and I bet (on
a Fins vs. Cowboys game) and the loser had to wear the other teams emblem
on their shirt the next day and write three letters to 3 friends
explaining what a great team the other was.  I'll admit this was kinda
dumb, but similar things have been done over the net.

	Who's in, and what should we bet?  (we should restrict this only to the
diehard Cowboys and 9ers fans).

FRANK

_prediction:______Dallas 31 - SanFran 21_______
Go 'Canes & Cowboys
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From: gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: Greatest Moment
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:38:08 GMT

lj> Leo James

lj> Which event would y'all vote for as "the greatest moment" in your favorite
    franchise's history?

  As a Bronco fan, I'd say it was when Denver beat Oakland in the 1977 AFC
  Championship to go to it's first Super Bowl. OK, Denver lost to Dallas, but
  that year was the beginning of Denver being among the NFL's better teams,
  instead of a perennial loser.

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strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dolphin's Offerdahl out for the rest of the playoffs
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:49:50 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <5294@ceylon.gte.com> chf0@gte.com writes:
>John Offerdahl underwent surgery on Wednesday to repair the torn
>muscle in his abdomen that has kept him out of the lineup for the last
>half of the season.  He should be healed for next season, but the
>recovery time for his surgery is expected to be 3 months, minimum.
>Dwight Hollier will be asked to take his place in the lineup.
>
>My comment on this is: 
>
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
>
>Need I say more?
>
>Curt

  You didn't really expect Offerdahl to contribute that much this year, did
you?  The defense is doing fine anyway- it's Marino & Co. on offense 
that needs to get their butts in gear.  AFC champs- what a joke.  
The only reason we got it is that Buffalo sucks more than we do.  We
almost lost that last Jets game - the Fins look like shit.  San Diego
is going to clean their clock this weekend at Joe Robbie Stadium.
I heard Marino is already talking about the Superbowl- the only way he
is going is if someone gives him a ticket.

  Doug
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From: jemartin@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Martin)
Subject: Re: Bledsoe to the NFL
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 22:04:31 GMT

In a rec.sport.football.college article,
jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>Minutes ago, Washington State junior QB Drew Bledsoe announced that he
>will indeed make himself eligible for the upcoming NFL draft.  With a
>somewhat shaky voice, he first enumerated the reasons for staying and
>for leaving:
>[...]

We know that New England has the #1 pick in the upcoming draft, while the
Seahawks will pick second.  I'm curious what those who are familiar with
the Pats think of the probability of their picking Bledsoe.  IMHO, the
Seahawks are an impact quarterback away from getting back to .500
(perhaps even better) within the next couple seasons, and would certainly
take Bledsoe if he were still available.
Any comments?

John
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From: easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC ARNOLD SCHWEITZ)
Subject: Dallas fans: prepare to hear lots of sobbing
Followup-To: cowboys_rule@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:40:11 GMT

The 49er fanatics have had 10 years to gloat over their cheap victory
over America's Team, and now the day of final atonement is approaching.
Joe the Anti-Christ will have to ball his eyes out on the sidelines as
he watches the Red-n-Gold get cut in half by the all-powerful, God-like
Dallas Cowboys!  Long live the past and future Kings of all football, the
Blue and Silver, God and America's Team FOREVER, the Dallas Cowboys!!!

Go to hell 49ers!
From: jorgand@sumax.seattleu.edu (Dave Jorgan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Seattle Fans - Bob Spitulski
Date: 8 Jan 1993 20:54:18 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

In article <1993Jan7.173645.7342@mlb.semi.harris.com> dbarring@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Dwayne Barrington) writes:
>
>Seattle Fans or Followers,
>
>How's Bob Spitulski doing?  I know he was
>injured earlier in the year.
>
>He was an awsome linebacker at the University
>of Central Florida.
>
>Dewayne



	They probably could have activated him late in the season, but 
Seattle had so many injuries they used up all the free injured reserve moves,
so they couldn;t bring him back without risking him on waivers. They liked
Spitulksi, he was used as the nickel linebacker in nickel defense packages,
and was also groomed as a pass-rusher backing up Rufus Porter. He'll be
ready next year, but as I said though they would have liked to bring him back
to play this year they could not.




Dave Jorgan


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From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Domes suck
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:00:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.022520.25811@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud) writes:
>With the removal of New Orleans, Minnesota, and Houston from the playoffs, it 
>seems that the Super Bowl's unblemished record (no dome teams) will survive 
>another year (No Dallas does not count as a dome team).  I must admitt I was a

>bit worried this year.
>
>Football is not an indoor sport.

What a dumb*ss statement. So what do you want us to do? Tear down the domes and
rebuild stadiums? Get a grip.
>
>Paul
>



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From: carrato@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Carrato)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Greatest Comeback in NFL history
Date: 4 Jan 93 08:52:07 GMT
Organization: UB

golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:

>Reich not only had the Miami comeback from 31-0 down in the his final
>year at Maryland (Gelbaugh played the first half...after playing the
>final few games of the season after Reich had gotten injured late in
>the season), but Reich led Maryland to a comeback victory that
>same season against Tennesse in the bowl game..(was it the Sun Bowl?)...
>being down 20-something to nothing at the half...

The man is absolute steel under pressure. He doesn't have a shitload
of talent and if the line doesn't give him time probably won't get it 
done...but it won't be because of nerves, that's for sure.

He reminds me of Scott Norwood in his prime. (Yes, Norwood! Scott was
perhaps the best pressure kicker the Bills ever had. The Kick at
Super Bowl 25 was out of his range... but I digress...)

The best part about it is, he is truly humble... despite his excellent
record in the past in pressure games, he is quite content as Kelly's
understudy. A great leader with absolutely no ego.

(I can't say he's the best backup because of the guy in San Fransisco,
but I can't think of too many backups as successful as he is who 
continue to accept a backup role...)

Mike C.
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From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Re: Domes suck
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:15:49 GMT


jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber) writes:
}Saturday would have been a lovely day for outdoor football in Minneapolis:
}temperature of about ~25-30 deg F with freezing drizzle (I was driving by
}Minneapolis around the time that the game was ending on my way back to IA from
}ND). Imagine Salisbury throwing under these conditions......although the
}weather might have caused Washington to drop those interceptions.....

In response, jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>-25-30 deg F with freezing drizzle. Geez, you have strange water
>up that way if it is still freezing drizzle at -25 degrees.


The water up here is quite normal; however, my typing is not always so clear.
The temp was between +25 and +30 deg F.

-- 
Joe Huber 
(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: Bills 27 , Steelers 24
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:33:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.044512.22418@cs.wayne.edu> delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>In article 1ig638INNd8h@shelley.u.washington.edu, wessir@shelley.u.washington.edu (bill the cat) writes:
>=>What more can I say?  I'll elaborate on this Sunday.
>=>wessir
>=>
>
>I think it will be more like Steelers 31 Bills 13. Its Pittsburghs year,
>besides if anyone is going to beat the NFC champions, I atleast would
>want it to be an AFC team I admire and have respect for. But even, if
>Pittsburgh did win the AFC Championship, I don't think the Steel Curtain
>is stong enough to handle a Philly or Dallas in the Playoffs but next 

If they aren't strong enough to handle a Philly or Cowboy team, they
certainly aren't strong enough to handle the #1 offensive team in
the NFL - the 49ers.

>year I'm quite sure they'll do it.

Ya gotta play this year's games before you play next years.  Just
ask Detroit :-)

>
>
>
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From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Kelly
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:25:33 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5



Can anyone tell me whether Jim Kelly will play again this year?  We don't get a
lot
of NFL coverage in this part of the world.  Thanks.
 The official line from Buffalo is that he may play in the AFC championship
 game if the BILLS beat P-burg.

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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Eagles Victory...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:16:50 GMT
Summary: Philadelphia at Dallas

In article <3233@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
> In article <103612@netnews.upenn.edu> sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja) writes:
> >All you dallas fans must be sweating han!!!
> 
> Why would we be sweating?  This is the same quarterback who got benched for
> a game and a half the last time he stepped into Texas Stadium.  I'd much
> rather play the Eagles than the Saints (although, given my druthers, I would
> have taken the Vikings over either one).

Of course you would.  Sounds like the confidence is getting a little low
down in Dallas.  Next you'll be telling us that you'd rather play the
Falcons and Bears again:-).

> The Saints managed 20 points before their offense gave out; and the Cowboys
> have a much better offense than they do.  This game is going to be similar
> to the last -- the Eagles are there for a while, but eventually just get
> pounded into submission.

It's funny that you mention the last Eagles/Cowboys game.  Seems to me
the first half of that game was very similar to the NFC WildCard game
on Sunday.  The Eagles offense struggled for first downs which gave the
opponents the ball for almost the entire first half.  The Saints were
able to score 17-points, the much better Cowboys offense produced all of
three.  Oh, and there's one other thing you might want to note, the
GANG GREEN is much healthier now than the last Dallas game.

> The Eagles have won five in a row, but the Cowboys have had two dominating
> wins in a row, too, over the Falcons and the Bears.

Oooooh, I'm impressed!

> Add to that the two weeks of rest, the Eagles' lack of road success this year,
> and 72,000 fans, and you have the Eagles' playoff run ending next week.

The Eagles played in front of more than 72,000 hostile fans this past
weekend and they did so while playing catch-up.  It didn't effect them
at all.  Eagles' lack of road success?  They've won two in a row and
three of their last four on the road.  The lone loss?  At San Francisco
by an inch.  The Eagles are very capable of winning on the road and are
playing as well as they did in the beginning of the season.

I'll let you post about what happened when the two teams met in the
beginning of the season.  And while you're at it, can you tell us how
many playoff games Troy Aikman has won?

Gawd, it's fun on this newsgroup in January:-)!


E-A-G-L-E-S

Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: JGH Computer Predictions Week19
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  9 JAN 93 09:54:11    

For anybody who cares, I'm sorry I haven't posted in a while.  I guess 
with the Packers in the playoff race and the getting booted from the 
playoff race so rudely my heart just wasn't in it.  Anyway, here 
goes...

Last week:   2-2
Cumulative:  165-63

Redskins     24 Vikings       7    4 -
Chiefs        0 Chargers     17    4 +
Oilers       38 Bills        41    3 +
Eagles       36 Saints       20    3 -

Divisional playoffs:  Home team favored in each case.  

Bills         at Steelers         1
Redskins      at 49ers            5
Eagles        at Cowboys          3
Chargers      at Dolphins         3

JGH

"There are three things that are important to every man in this room.  
 His religion, his family, and the Green Bay Packers, in that order"
                   - Vince Lombardi as quoted by Jerry Kramer
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: More predictions
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:58:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan13.022103.24955@netcom.com> gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga) writes:

><1993Jan12.195023.3866@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:

>>Washington also scored a total of 13 points, all of which were on drives
>>following turnovers, and ten of which were virtual gimmes.  Considering
>>how badly Young's leprachaun was trying to give this one back, I'd say
>>the Niners' defense were heroes.

>They played good when it counted but their over-all performance was
>sub-par, even for them.

What was sub-par?  In WHAT facet the the Deadskins offense succeed?

>>And stop focusing on yardage.  It's *points* that win, son.  Yardage
>>is useful for some comparisons, but it's misleading when trying to
>>evaluate the Niners D.  They're soft against the pass, but not *that*
>>soft.

>Then you believe that Pittsburgh and New Orleans have the two best
>defenses in the league?

Definitely two of the best.  NO may be the pick of the litter.

>>Too many variables.  In '81, Dorsett ran for 99 yards in the losing 
>>effort on a field whose condition was very similar to today's, and he
>>was hardly the same style runner as Smith.

>Huh?  Is this supposed to be some evidence that Smith will not have a good
>running day?  

No, evidence that even if he has a good day, it may not lead to the 
Bowboy victory that you're so confident of.

>>I admit the overall game looks even.  But not the passing game.  No way.

>And that's your opinion.  I at least have some statistics to back up my
>claims, but that's ok - you don't need to do that.

And we all know how undeniably accurate statistics are.

>>You got a net.bet.  Lunch (not to exceed $20 for both) sometime next
>>week.

>If it doesn't interfere with my job searching.

I hear the Niners need a towel boy.


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From: seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr)
Subject: Re: San Fancisco vs the NFC East
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:01:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.141132.9268@hellgate.utah.edu>, twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf) writes:
> In article <1993Jan4.220852.22225@ntmtv> jmartin@ntmtv.UUCP (Jeff Martin) writes:
> >This is not to say that having earned home field advantage that
> >the 9ers won't get to the Super Bowl. But don't live under any
> >delusion that the 49er's are not the beneficerey of a weaker division
> >than the Eagles/Cowboys/Redskins any of whom would have eagerly
> >traded four games with each other for games with the Rams and
> >Falcons.
> 
> I think you forgot one other arguement:
> 
> The NFC west combined achieved the highest win percentage against teams from
> other divisons. The NFC East, the so-called toughest division, only placed
> third. I think you are living in the past in thinking the NFC East is the
> toughest divison. Maybe it will be next year.
> 
> Tom Wolf

But Tom, you are missing one huge point. Every team gets to play two games
against teams that finished in 5th place last year. For the teams in the
NFC East, 5th place games count as division games, and for the NFC West,
they do not. In other words, by design the NFC West out of division schedule 
is by design weaker than the NFC East out of division schedule, with
the exception of 5th place teams who get the softest possible schedule.

Of course, as it turned out, the 49ers managed to lose one of those 5th
place games. That's why they play 'em...but I suppose you could make the
argument that the fact that the Cardinals were able to beat the 49ers only
supports the fact that the NFC East is the toughest division to play in...

That said, however, the team with home field advantage throughout the playoffs
must be considered the team to beat, and this year the 49ers are it. However,
I do agree strongly with the contention that the 49ers would likely not be
that team if they were in a stronger division.

pete clark jr
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From: delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu (De Vaughn Elledge)
Subject: Re: Bills 27 , Steelers 24
Reply-To: delledg@jake.cc.wayne.edu
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI 48202
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:45:12 GMT

In article 1ig638INNd8h@shelley.u.washington.edu, wessir@shelley.u.washington.edu (bill the cat) writes:
=>What more can I say?  I'll elaborate on this Sunday.
=>wessir
=>

I think it will be more like Steelers 31 Bills 13. Its Pittsburghs year,
besides if anyone is going to beat the NFC champions, I atleast would
want it to be an AFC team I admire and have respect for. But even, if
Pittsburgh did win the AFC Championship, I don't think the Steel Curtain
is stong enough to handle a Philly or Dallas in the Playoffs but next 
year I'm quite sure they'll do it.



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From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: Re: Dallas will win SB
Organization: Gallaudet University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:47:43 GMT

In article <4557@winnie.fit.edu>, mcs77695@zach.fit.edu ( PALACIOS) writes:
> Top 10 Reasons Why Dallas will win SB
> 
> 10. Dallas has #1 overall D
> 9.  San Fran has the 26th passing D
> 8.  Dallas had a tough regular season schedule.
> 7.  AFC has no chance
> 6.  Jimmy Johnson has a better haircut than George Seifert
> 5.  E Smith is at his peak
> 4.  Dallas has too much team speed
> 3.  E Smith is the real NFC MVP not Steve Young
> 2.  Michael Irvin is tougher than Rice O Roni
> 1.  Dallas D is pissed about pro bowl selections. 
> 
> 
> 
> Predictions
> 
> Dallas     30          
> San Fran   10
>  
> Buffalo    24 
> Miami      13
> 
> 
> Super Bowl
> 
> Dallas     42
> Buffalo    17
======================
1A. SF has more and better Notre Dame Players:

SF 28
Dallas 7


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From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: The FAT LADY IS SINGING in BUFFALO!
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:42:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.084028.10420@walter.cray.com> mas@cray.com (Michael A.
Sand) writes:
>Somehow, I knew when Houston returned the interception for a touchdown and
>then followed up with the onside kick that Houston would end up paying for
>trying to rub Buffalo's face in it.

Wrong, buffalo breath. That kick was a sqiggle (sp?) Not intended to be an
onside kick. Either way Oilers choked.

>
>Boy was I right.

Now dont get off to gloating too much. Oilers helped you get into the record
books, but Pittsburgh and the rest wont do that also. You have a lot of good
football ahead. 

As for me I have a lot of chores around the house to do. 
>

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NASA Johnson Space Center Houston Tx.
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