HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Subject: Welcome back, Fred!  (Was Re: Just Starting...)
Reply-To: eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41
	<1992Nov15.051315.15275@compu.com>
Date: 15 Nov 92 10:25:51

In article <1992Nov15.051315.15275@compu.com> fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
>  ... My problem was Germany and 
>   I simply had to take that bull by the horns myself and started reading and 
>   writing and reading this group.

Speaking of Germany, Fred didn't you just get back from a trip to
Germany?  I'd love to hear some commentary on any genealogical work
you did over there.  I'm hoping to go to Germany next year too.

=Jim  eggertj%atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
Researching:  Assies, Bre(d)thauer, Eggert, Foth, Hackel, Husni, 
              Kalooky, Kindler, Nehring, Nershi, Re(h)winkel,
              Schall, Schreiner, Span(n)uth, Ullmer, Ziemke 

--
=Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
From: Barbara.O'Keefe@f54.n135.z1.hvvj (Barbara O'Keefe)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: ADAMS
Date: 14 Nov 92 14:18:01 GMT

Lynn, I noticed you are researching ADAMS, could they possibly be from
Pennsylvania originally?

BARB

... Searching: ADAMS,BRADY,ALTHOFF...Adams Co, PA
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Reply-To:     Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
From:         Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
Subject:      African-American Genealogy BBS
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I received the following by email and figured some Roots-ers would be
interested.  I can't get email to Mike Wade but maybe he'll see this
and follow up with an alternate address and more info.

From @s.ms.uky.edu:ckcs!mike.wade@ms.uky.edu Tue Nov 17 01:37:12 1992
From: ckcs!mike.wade@ms.uky.edu
Organization: Central Kentucky Computer Society - Voice: 606-268-2527
Reply-To: Mike Wade <ckcs!mike.wade>

I saw a note from you in ROOTS-L that made me think you might be
interested in the following:
    ---------------------------------------
   |  ****   A N N O U N C I N G  ****     |
   |                                       |
   |  U - People BBS.... (606) 268-0801    |
   | Dedicated to collecting, preserving,  |
   |  and distributing African-American    |
   |        history and genealogy!         |
   |   12-24-9600-N-8-1  24 hours/day      |
   |   Sponsoring the **NEW** national     |
   |  African-American Genealogy echo      |
   |    on the GT-Power Net(E02/157)       |
   | Net node 032/006   Mike Wade - Sysop  |
   -----------------------------------------

I have a list of all of the GT BBS's and can give you a
list of the ones near you.

Mike Wade
 . SLMR 2.1a . U-People BBS... (606) 268-0801  9600-N-8-1 24 hours
From: bob.stephan@nitelog.com (Bob Stephan) 
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Sutro Library Information
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:21:00 GMT
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Reply-To: bob.stephan@nitelog.com (Bob Stephan) 

subj: Re:Sutro Library Information?

 6. I've seen references to the Sutro Library
 6.
 6. Could some kind soul enlighten me (and anyone else interested) as to
 6. what makes this library special (size, lots of genealogy material, ?).

All of the above.  It is a branch of the California State Library.  Their
phone number is 415-731-4477.  I have received materials from them on ILL,
but have never been there.  I'll get there soon and then will know more
about it.  I am able to search their card catalog on fiche at our FHC.
                Bob
From: bob.stephan@nitelog.com (Bob Stephan) 
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Vitals/Afro-American Gene
Date: 21 Nov 92 09:41:00 GMT
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Reply-To: bob.stephan@nitelog.com (Bob Stephan) 

to: LISTSERV@VM1.NoDak.Edu

INDEX ROOTS-L
From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re:      Hutchinson
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:18:17 GMT
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In article <ROOTS-L%92111613295442@VM1.NODAK.EDU> "Sharon L Palmateer" <ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET> writes:
>Hi All!
>
> ...      Daughter Effie L. (b 6/30/1886 Hammond, NY)
>              m/1 Ralph Bowhall
>                   Daughter Beulah (b 1910-d ~1981)
>                   Daughter Helen Beatrice (b 10/23/1911-d 7/31/1963)
>              m/2 John Joseph Smith
>                   Son John Winfield (b 1/13/1919-d 10/16/1979)
>                   Son Embert Lorenzo (b 11/5/1921-d 11/29/1989)
>                   Son Frank Leon (b 7/4/1923-d 11/1977)
>                   Son Hobart Edward (b 11/20/1924-d 7/26/1960)
>                   Daughter Leona Effie (b 11/18/1928-d 12/1977)
>                   Daughter Sadie (b 8/11/1930-d 8/1984) ...

It'd be interesting why Effie's children found it so hard to reach the age
of 60; all of them except Beulah seem to have died rather young.


Carrie		ceb@rechenau.unify.com	x6244
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:18:27 EST
From: <PLK109@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Bill Clinton

Can someone tell me what Clinton's ancestry looks like?  Does he decend from
English royalty in any way?  Is he related to any former presidents?
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From:         Robert Thomin <durango@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      Thanks;
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Hello ROOTERS:
Thanks for all the information that I have received on libraries.
You ROOTERS are very kind,helpful,and sincere.
robert thomin
From: Frank.Starns@f81.n130.z1.fidonet.org (Frank Starns)
Sender: FredGate@ocitor.fidonet
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: African-American Genealo
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:42:00

TH> I've never posted to this group before, but I thought I'd give
TH>it a try. I'm an African-American student, just beginning to trace my
TH>family history. I mention being African American because doing
TH>research on black families presents some obstacles not encountered in
TH>other research.  I've gotten off to a good start, and basically I'd
TH>like to know what to do next.

I use Prodigy and know they have a VERY active Afro- American section on
the Genealogy BBS (newly created).  You might give it a try. Prodigy is
just another tool and way to reach out to many who do NOT use a BBS.
The same applies to GEnie.  I pay for Prodigy for a year at a time and
save several $ a month; GEnie is $4.95 per month for use of basic
services during non-prime time hours (6 pm - 8 am).  I have had good
results with Prodigy and find that many folks use both, in addition to
BBS.  Several of the names on here are seen on *P and *G.  Good hunting.

 * OLX 2.2 * Words once spoken can never be recalled.

 * Origin: FamilyResearch <Bedford,TX> (817) 571-1373 V.32 (1:130/81)
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Reply-To:     "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU>
From:         "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU>
Comments: To: Roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Can someone tell me where old probate records are kept.  Are these of
city, county or state jurisdiction?  Can old wills be seen (old as in
1790-1840).  Does one have to go in person or will court offices check and
send copies assuming one knows the date of death?
From: bob.stephan@nitelog.com (Bob Stephan) 
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Francis RANDELL
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:19:00 GMT
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Reply-To: bob.stephan@nitelog.com (Bob Stephan) 

to: brian.randell@newcastle.ac.uk
subj: Francis Randell

I ran an IGI check at the FHC today and found 62 Francis Randell's with
various spellings in England during the 1700's.  I'll just take the time to
type in the ones with a father named Francis also.

RENDLES, c. 29 Sep 1705, Adbaston, Stafford
RANDALL, c. 27 Oct 1717, Meopham, Kent
RANDALL, c. 3 Apr 1698, Aldenham, Hertford
RENDALL, c. 4 Sep 1757, Modbury, Devon
RANDELL, father Franc., c. 10 Jan 1760, Saint Luke Old Street, Finnsbury,
London.
RANDLES, c. 19 Feb 1764, Pontesbury, Shropshire
RANDELL, c. 11 Sep 1767, Tilton, Leicester
RANDAL, c. 29 Aug 1770, Shipdham, Norfolk
RANDAL, c. 5 Sep 1771, Wandsworth, London
RENDALL, c. 17 May 1793, Modbury, Devon

Does anything look interesting?  I don't know what to do about the other 52
names, but if you have any other questions about these or those, let me
know and I'll try to find answers.  Since I didn't know whether you had any
other replies, or the current state of this research, I didn't want to take
the time to enter any more data.  BTW, I didn't see anything relevant in
the Ancestral File.
                                 Bob
From: Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Is the Mac version as good as the DOS?
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:58:09 GMT
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Paul Risk writes:

|I'm trying to decide whether to get rid of my MSDOS machine and go to a Mac. 
|One of the considerations is whether the Mac version of PAF is as good as the
|DOS version and whether or not the Mac version gets revised as often as the
|DOS.  Can anybody give me some ideas on the pros and cons of the two versions?

A short while ago I studied a MSDOS/PAF manual to find out what features
MSDOS/PAF had compared to Mac/PAF. Apart from an interface that people with
an aversion to mice, and a wish to maintain arcane keyboard skills, might
prefer (:-), I found that it had the following additional facilities:

1. "print" to a file or to screen as well as to an actual printer

2. print "end-of-line" individuals, individuals without recorded parents,
surname frequencies

3. Focus/Design Reports

4. Automatic Match/Merge

5. Facts and Fun - find relationship, soundex search, count descendants,
name frequency, 

6. birth date graph, date calculation, ahnentafel nos.

7. checking facilities for Ancestral file submissions


Of these, I regard item 1 as the most important, and as pointing out the
single biggest limitation of Paf/MAC - though it makes very good use of the
Macintosh graphical user interface, and is therefore very attractive to
use, it does not interwork well with other applications. Thus GED Companion
would seem to be a very important and useful add-on for use with Mac/PAF,
and a cheap means of getting round the LDS's slowness in extending Mac/PAF.

I in fact use a mixture of Mac/PAF and REUNION on my Mac, which - though
costing more - between them considerably surpass the MSDOS/PAF facilities,
with only one significant exception IMHO, namely the Automatic Match/Merge
in MSDOS/PAF, though others who have tried the MSDOS/PAF Match/Merge have
described it to me as rather crude and limited.

The bottom line to Paul is, again IMHO, go ahead!

Cheers

Brian Randell
From: jointer@ENG.SUN.COM (Robert Paul Monschke)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Welcome back, Fred! (Was Re: Just Starting...)
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:35:19 GMT
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I am also interested in hearing about anyone who has gone to Germany
recently, especially anyone who has ancestors from previously close
Polish, Russian, and East German Areas which used to be East Prussia,
West Prussia, etc.

Paul
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From: dennett@acadia.Kodak.COM (Charles R. Dennett)
Subject: Re: are there any FAQ's for this newsgroup?
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 00:19:11 GMT

Kate (and other newcomers),

First of all, Welcome!  Glad you're here.  I think you'll find the people
here extremely friendly and helpful.

I while ago I promised to start working on a FAQ for regular posting
sometime after the first of the year.  I'm still shooting for that.
I'm a bit busy now finishing up night school.  Once that's over I
should have plenty of time.  No more spending weekends at work!
Of course, my wife and kids may have other plans for me! :-)

I've been squirreling away various postings I've seen that may be
fodder for the FAQ list.  What I plan to do is sort these out and
perhaps reword some of them.  If I drastically reword something, I'll
send a copy to the original author and ask him/her to make sure I
didn't destroy it.  Then when I have something reasonable, I'll post
it to the group.  I'm sure that will bring even more suggestions and
information to add to the FAQ.  I expect it will grow quite a bit the first
few months.

Anyways, fear not.  One is in the works and may even be out by
February.

Charles Dennett  --  dennett@Kodak.COM  --  Any DENNETT information welcome.
Researching: BARNARD, CORBETT, DENNETT, DURGIN, FROST, STODDARD, WHITNEY.
Mostly Colonial New England to present.  STODDARD is Nova Scotia.
From: lib1p@elroy.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Bowen and Banks, California
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:34:00 GMT
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If there is any body out there that has recent (1900-present)
relations in the San Francisco Bay Area with the name of
Bowen or Banks, I would be interested in talking with you.
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From:         Robert Thomin <durango@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      Civil War Nurses:
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.EDU

Hello ROOTERS:
My gr.gr.grandmother was listed as being a nurse in the Civil War.
I got this information off the tombstone.Are there any books or other
information about the Civil War nurses??
robert thomin
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From: brad@slammer.UUCP (Brad Isley)
Subject: Researching name Andia from Navarra, Spain.
Organization: Just me & my computers
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:46:17 GMT

Posting for my step-dad:

My surname, Andia, comes from the province of Navarra, Spain.  I would like
to know names of any books from which I can research my name.  I would also
like to hear from any english speaking family researcher that is in the
province of Navarra.

Thanx in advance!

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From: steve1@cupid.cc.bellcore.com (stein,stephen c)
Subject: TEST
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 21:11:54 GMT

Ignore this message.
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From:         "Andrew M. (Drew) Smith" <DREW@CFRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      "marker" names

Alicia,

You've certainly touched on an idea that many of us probably underutilize
in our research.  (Perhaps a number of genealogists already use this
technique without thinking twice about it, and perhaps it just isn't
discussed as often as it should be!)

It seems to me that this is also somewhat related to naming patterns where
a son is given his mother's maiden name as a middle name.  This is
particularly helpful when the maiden name is unusual, but much less helpful
when the maiden name is difficult to distinguish from a common first name
(such as my own middle name, Martin, which is my mother's maiden name).

Alicia, you asked about statistical studies and such about the historical
usage of first names.  I have a large paparback at home (of the type used
to help name a baby) which discusses each first name in terms of how
the name has risen or fallen in popularity in England or the U.S., going
back at least to the early 1900's and sometimes before.

I would imagine that many names (and name combinations) gained popularity
as a result of famous people.  My grandfather was named George Washington
Martin, for instance.  And my Smith line has a number of Thomas Jefferson
Davis' in it.  These patterns are also clues to being related.  Once
movies came along, I suspect that first name popularity was driven primarily
by famous entertainers.

Speaking of "marker names" (a good term which reminds me of a "genetic
marker"), I've run across the name Greenberry in one of my lines.  Does
anyone know the history behind that one?

Drew Smith

P.S.  Alicia, one of these days, I'll make it back for a SIGUCCS conference!
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From: saw@hallc1.cebaf.gov (Stephen A. Wood)
Subject: Re:      hallc1.cebaf.gov alternatives?
Reply-To: saw@hallc1.cebaf.gov (Stephen A. Wood)
Organization: CEBAF (Continuous Electron Beam Accelerator Facility)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:55:06 GMT

Several people have offered to take over supplying genealogy files via
ftp.  As we work things out there will be more information posted here.

So, don't worry, and at any rate, I plan to keep hallc1.cebaf.gov up through
sometime in January.

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From: v.hemingway@newcastle.ac.uk (Vivienne Hemingway)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Hemingways
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:08:22 GMT
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Organization: Newcastle University, UK

Hi,

A friend of mine is doing a one-name study on the Hemingway family (also
Hemmingways, Hemingwrays, Hemmaways and other variations). He has a lot of
information on UK Hemingways going back to the 17th Century, but would like
info. on any US or other Hemingways, and would send any info. required in
return. He isn't on e-mail, so could anyone with information please mail
me.

Thanks,

Vivienne.

e-mail v.hemingway@newcastle.ac.uk
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thanks,

jstahley
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From:         Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Calif placename query
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Walt--

I went in melvyl (University of California combined library catalogs) and
searched for Diggings in the subject heading field, ie f su diggings.  The
results were:

Malakoff Diggins State Park (Calif.)
Murphy's Diggings (Calif.)
Coyote Diggings (Calif.)
Secret Diggings (Calif.)

Hope one of these looks promising.  Also, the UW has several books on
California Geographical Names.  I just searched for California and place
names and found several titles.

Lisa

Walt Criteser wrote:

> My last query regarding Oregon Libraries on the Internet turned
> out to be very productive.  Thank you one and all.  With the
> success of my last query I have constructed a new query.
>
> I have recently obtained a copy of my great great grandmothers,
> Mary Ellen ALDRICH, death certificate.  Note, she went by the
> alias of May.  Three items on the certificate are only partially
> distinguishable.
>
> The one item I think someone on the net might be able to help me
> with is the place of birth.  The part of the scrawl I was able to
> decipher was California.  On the other hand, the city/town (?) is
> very difficult to read, but I think one of the words might be
> Diggings.  Hence, I think grandma May's place of birth is
>
>                 XXXXXX Diggings California.
>
> Where XXXXXXX is unkown since I cannot read it.  To help establish
> a time frame, her date of birth is calculated to be 31 Oct 1861.
> Does anybody know what the "X" might be?  Is there now, or use to be
> any towns with the name of Diggings in the name?  Is there any
> California counties or towns that contain the word, or a word similar
> to Diggings?  Suggestions might give me just that little bit of extra
> information to help me match it to what is written on the certificate.
>
> Thank you.
> Walt Criteser
> waltcr@microsoft.com
>
> PRIMARY RESEARCH: CRITESER (everywhere), GOUGE (or/ia/in/ky),
>                   CAIN (or/id/mo), ALDRICH (or/ca/id/england?).
> RELATED LINES: JONES, MITCHELL, EDWARDS, LASWELL, LIVINGSTON, RINKER
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From: cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne)
Subject: Re: Land grants
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:44:30 GMT

In article <Pine.3.05.9211192233.D29542-a100000@gidney.oswego.edu> "Christine M. Darby" <cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU> writes:
>People who served in the Revolutionary War were given land grants, I
>imagine in part to open up and populate the frontier.  Does anyone know of
>a book which covers this subject well. And/or does anyone know if a soldier
>didn't use the land, could it be given to or claimed by children?  Could
>these grants be divided among children.  There's a great record of
>Virginia grantees for Ohio lands, but I've not seen anything similar on
>New York. Does anyone know how I could find out about land grants in NY?

Most of the land in the original colonies was already allotted at the time of 
the war.  The land which was originally opened up was the Northwest Territory
(one of the reasons for the war was that although Britain obtained title to
the former French claims, American colonials were forbidden to go beyond
the Alleghenies.  Also, most of the American soldier received very little if
any pay but the Virginia armies were promised land in Ohio for their efforts
in the war.  There were also additional lands in Ohio given to various groups--
there's a large New England settlement around Cleveland.

Around central Ohio, in addition to Virginia Military lands there is a
"refugee" track which was to go to people who were displaced as a part of
the war.  There were also large tracks in Ohio given to officers who fought
in the war.  There were also the lands of the "Ohio" company, which purchased
land directly from Congress to resell to settlers (at one time they offered to
purchase approx. 5 million acres for about 50cents per acre).

I would imagine a lot of land in Pennsylvania and New York as well as the
Western sections of Virginia and the Carolinas was sold to people who intended
to resell at a profit.

Sorry I don't have specific information on your questions.

Charlie

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