From: cza@troy.uucp (22141-akgun)
Subject: Re: Kelly, Kelly... Why are you doing this?
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Navesink, NJ
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 13:31:16 GMT

In article <18p4cjINNslg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> by403@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:

[Tri* whining about Kelly's and Mutlu's posting from Shaw's
 book about Greek atrocities against Ottoman or other Jews
 is deleted.]

 C'mmon My dear Tri*.  Take those articles as they come
 like we took "them postings" from your Greek friends.  There are
 still many Greek jerks around you know, who claim their misfortunes to
 Turkish occupation after 3-4 generations.  So, what
 is your point?  If they can bring the past out into open 
 (most of the time baseless arguments) with one track mind 
 which is to paint Turks as "uncivilized brutes,"  why
 Kelly or Mutlu give the medicine back.  You seem a
 sensible guy.  I don't recall your objection to that
 kind of Greek behavior?  So, why anybody from Turks to worry 
 about what Mutlu or Kelly posts about Greeks.

 Actually, I was bit diappointed now about Argic's latest
 behavior.  He opted to answer articles that I haven't
 read originally in SCT.  He must chase the owner of
 those articles in their own backyard, let no new group
 be sacred.  Like Churchiil said in his famous speech,
 "we shall fight with the enemy in beaches, on the prairies, on 
 the mountain tops...., " they should put the members of 'hate-to-Turk'\
 club into their places in any news group including news.adm group if 
 they choosei to be.  That is how you stop that non-sense.  
 After Mutlu's absence, we notice that they are trying
 the crawl back under their rock again.  All those years
 being silent on those matters only interpreted as how
 righteous the accusers are.  If article appear in any
 group try to insult Turks or Turkishness, Argic got to 
 respond there.  SCT is not a dumping ground and who says that
 those people who wrote the postings in different groups
 are reading SCT to get his respond.   


 As far as getting an account from Cosar machine, listen to this
 and learn the facts of life.  I inquired a membership info from 
 "information factory," a commercial BBS (supposedly) for a friend who 
 lives in NYC.  I send e-mail to their postmaster to find out how much 
 it costs.  I did not get a reply and no bounce message either.  It was
 very odd to me why on earth this should happen.  I did not give up.  
 I found their phone number and called.  I spoke with a lady
 who handles new membership affairs.  She gave me the fee
 structure and all kind of information that I needed.  She took 
 my address to send me their brochure for more info for my
 friend.  I asked a technical qustion and she said "I cannot answer 
 that but Michael can.  He is out for lunch and be back about 15 minutes
 to call you back on that"  Guess what.  No calls and no brochure.  
 It dawn on me later and I put "Michael" and "postmaster" and "BBS, 
 the information factory" together to figure out why our business was 
 not welcomed there.  Did you see me bitching about it?  If a
 commercial BBS deny me (actually it was not for me but a
 friend in NYC) a service based on who I am, why Cosar should give
 you any account from his private machine?  You know the answer but you 
 couldn't help.   I know.  I could not help but tell my
 stroy too after reading your whining about Cosar's publishing
 house. 
 
 C. Akgun
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