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From: ychen@sp16.csrd.uiuc.edu (Yung-Chin Chen)
Subject: Re: Fortune cookies, sushis, eggrolls etc.
Organization: /homes/ychen/.organization
	<Jul24.075848.54636@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
	<19553@optima.cs.arizona.edu>
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:17:59

In article <19553@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou) writes:

>   Your poor knowledge agrees with mine.  :-)  What I know as sushi is
>   rice rolled up in dried seaweed, with vinegar or veggies etc...
>   BUT NO RAW FISH!  One other variation that I really like is the
>   vinegared rice rolled up in I think it's tofu skins?  (or eggs???)

If you go to Japanese restraunts in Taiwan, you can find raw fish in
the sushi. As another post said, there are many kinds of sushis...
Also, it is seasoned tofu skins. You can find it (in a can) in
oriental grocery stores easily. Thus, you can do sushi your own easily!

>   While I am at it, is "tappanaki" (sp?) or what we Taiwanese call the
>   Tie3-Ban3-Zhow1 (hey I am a novice to Pinyin!), is that available in
>   Japan also?  I would assume that DID come from Japan?

It is fried vegetables (with a skin) in Japanese restraunts. I never
find the Taiwanese Tien1-Fu4-Lo2 in Japanese restraunts.

ychen
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china
From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Subject: Re: God knows ! Re: Racial Problem?
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 03:26:44 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <liang.711917444@ash.cs.scarolina.edu> liang@cs.scarolina.edu (Da Dong Liang) writes:
>hengyi@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Heng-Yi Chao) writes:
>
>>In article <klp.711739653@tomalak> klp@doe.carleton.ca (Ka Lun Pang) writes:
>>>In <YwQ--q+@engin.umich.edu> chen@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jian Chen) writes:
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Chinese culture is different for American culture. As a matter of
>>>>fact, it is very rare for a Chinese man to marry an American woman.
>>>             ^^^^^^^^^
>
>Because Chinese men don't have long dong silver. 

One must presume (hope?) that you are talking about yourself?  Why
don't you state it as such, rather than spread stereotypes?  And
generalize to other people what your own personal problems are?

Besides, Clarence Thomas isn't necessarily a model of good taste,
and his antics with women don't describe a particularly confident
fellow either (hence his sneaky behavior).

But why the lack of self-confidence on your part?  Good Dr. Freud,
where are you when we need you?

LB
From: rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Fortune cookies, sushis, eggrolls etc.
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:54:22 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School

From: bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou)
Article 16640 (3183 more) in soc.culture.japan:

>   I am also wondering why the people here define "sushi" as raw
>   fish?  I've had so many sushis in my life and never once did
>   I see any sign of fish in my sushis!  (well, maybe dried fish
>   or something like that)

   Really? Have you been to 'Sushi ya', a special restaurant of
'Sushi', in Japan?  If so, you should had seen many raw fish on
rice.
   Surely there are many 'sushi' which don't include a raw fish,
as you wrote.  'Chirashi sushi' and 'Maki sushi' include 
dried gourd shavings, black mashroom, conger burnt, and 
several vegetables. 'Inari sushi' is a rice ball added vineger in 
a fried bean curd. 'Oshi sushi' used fishes added vineger.
   And originally 'Sushi' was rice and fish or shellfish which ferment
and included acidity. 'Sushi' means 'acid taste'. And still now
there are many this types of 'sushi' in Japan, 'Funa sushi' in
Shiga prefecture, 'Suzume sushi' in Osaka, etc.

   However, now 'Nigiri sushi' is most popular in Japan. It's a raw
fish on a rice ball added vineger.(only eel and conger are burnt)
 When many Japanese say 'Let's go to eat "sushi"', they usually 
go to eat 'Nigiri sushi'.
   'Nigiri sushi' was created at 'Edo', Tokyo now, in about 17-18
century. It's a new one in 'sushi's.

   I guess; (If I guess wrong, please forgive me)
If you got 'sushi' from some Japanese friends of yours, they might
avoid 'sushi' included raw fish, and give you 'sushi' not included
raw fish. For example, when I sometimes make 'sushi' here, I make
'maki sushi' not included raw fish. Because many people except
Japanese don't like raw fish.
   Or if you ate the home-made 'sushi' in Japanese home, you should
not see raw fish. The home-made 'sushi' is usually 'Maki sushi',
'Inari sushi' or 'Chirashi sushi', not include raw fish.
   Oh! I forget 'Temaki sushi'. It's recently very popular as
home-made 'sushi', and often include raw fish. 


>   Finally, where did the name Eggroll come from?  In Taiwan we call
>   them "Spring Roll", since we eat them during the spring on the
>   "Tomb Sweeping" day in April, and eventually it grew so popular
>   that people just eat them anytime.  But that still doesn't
>   explain where the EGG comes from!  :-)  What I know as an eggroll
>   is like a fruit rollup made of egg!

   Thank you for your information. You taught me why it is called 
'Spring Roll'. Japnese also goes to 'Tomb Sweeping' in Spring and
Autumn.

**********************************
*       Hirokatsu Watanabe       *
**********************************
From: hchiu@acsu.buffalo.edu (hung-chang chiu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: NT dollar appreciation
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:13:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SUNY Buffalo

After hitting its all-time closing high against US dollar at 1 US : 24.507 NT 
on July 9, NT dollar reversed its trend sharply, and drop to 24.91 in just 
five trading days. And then it began rising again. But yesterday, the Federal 
Reserve and several Western Central Bank(including German's) intervened to 
boost the US dollar value. Although their main objective is to stabilize US 
dollar against German Mark, I would expect Taiwan Central Bank use this as a 
reason to intervene. In the short term, the NT dollar is expected to be kept
in 24.5 ~ 25 range.
From: jt2o+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: NBC .... Gan!
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:50:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.MeQsuqO00WB54_O3NS
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Wah! Tah mah de, it's about time we noticed that our country was overlooked.

Didn't NBC realize that this was the second straight time they've done
this? (Or whoever was broadcasting the 88 Olympics.)

Western media should perform a gut-check on themselves. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: chenh%prism.DECnet@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Huijie)
Subject: Thank you!
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 22:17:26 -0500

Hi, There,

I have received several replies to my question of the English translation 
for Chiao Yu Kong Hsueh.  All of them point to IST program at the School of 
Education at this campus.

Thank you all and have a nice weekend.

Huijie
======
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:11112 talk.politics.china:250
From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: 99% will support Taiwan Independence
Date: 22 Jul 92 05:08:56 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.china
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <l6p8t7INNajk@pollux.usc.edu> mcyang@pollux.usc.edu (Bien-Chao Iunn) writes:
>The will of Taiwanese seems to be "I don't care whether we are part of 
>China or not as long as you don't try to bother us."   You don't seem 
>to be accepting that too well.

I agree with you!!!!!!!!!!!  

My guess is that only about <50% of Taiwanese really care about
unification versus ti.  My goal is to convince those that don't care
about unification versus TI itself, that gradual unification will have
a good effect on the things that they do care about (the economy for
example).

I suppose your goal is to convince those people that ROT will have
a good effect on those things.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china
From: william@acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: God knows ! Re: Racial Problem?
Organization: Australian Computing and Communications Institute
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:08:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.070447.13769%onghiok@ling.nthu.edu.tw>, onghiok@ling.nthu.edu.tw (H.Samual Wang (035)715131-4398) writes:
|> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
|> > >|>>>>Chinese culture is different for American culture. As a matter of
|> > >|>>>>fact, it is very rare for a Chinese man to marry an American woman.
|> > >|>>>             ^^^^^^^^^
|> > 
|> > Some back sounds: why is that?
|> > 
|> > Many chinese men are still kind of "conservative," this is only one of
|> > the important reasons, if not the most decisive one.
|> I had a conversation with one of my Canadian friends (female) years ago on
|> topic like this.  She said that from the western point of view, Chinese
|> women are attractive to western men, but Chinese men are not attractive
|> to western women.  Sigh! I am a Chinese man, unforturnately.
|> S.W.

	Well, just what kind of western women your friend was referring to?
If she was saying Canadians, I'll forgive her and have no comments.  But the
fact is, chinese guys(or should I say Hongkong guys here?) do appeal to
women of ALL sorts although I wouldn't call it always.  It's not very fair
te make such a conclusion anyway and my gal friend who is an Italian will sure
be the first one I know to disagree.  But I admit gals' thoughts are basically
much more complicated.  Try posting a questionnaire to other soc.culture.'s!

---Cheers,
	Bill Lo

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: tsai@tecrus.enet.dec.com (Kuo-Yeang Tsai)
Subject: Olympic Baseball Game
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:55:16 GMT


        Taiwan - Italy 8-2, Cuba-Dominician Republic 8-0,
        Japan - Puerto Rico 9-0, USA-Spain 4-1
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: chaoli@merlin.tcs.com (Chao-Li Tarng)
Subject: Re: Fortune cookies, sushis, eggrolls etc.
Organization: Teknekron Comm. Sys., Inc., Berkeley, Ca.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:43:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.032806.11662@westford.ccur.com> hank@westford.ccur.com (Hank Cohen) writes:

> In article <19521@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou) writes:
> >Hi guys,
> >
> >   I just thought of a very interesting question, at least to me...
> >   Where in the world did FORTUNE COOKIES come from??????????
> >   In all of my living life in Taiwan, HongKong, and Japan, I have
> >   never seen anything like what we call the "fortune cookie" here!
> 
> Well they all must come from the factory I visited in San Francisco's
> China Town when I was a kid. :^)
> Seriously they could be Cantonese.  Most of what peope in the US think
> of as Chinese food is Cantonese.  It's not unususal for a kind of

Mmph, I don't think so.  There are tons of (Chinese) restaurants use
names of Hunan, Szechuan, and Peking (not Beijing ???), such as 
"Hunan Garden", "Little Szechuan", "Peking House", etc.  But I have
yet to see many restaurants with names Canton in there.  (Of course,
this does not prove that those restaurants do not sell Cantonese food
:)).

Don't take this food matter too seriously.  Burp!

> Chinese food familiar in one area to be completelyt unknown in
> another.
> 

[lines deleted]

> Thanks
> -- 
> Hank Cohen
> Concurrent Nippon Corp.  	Shuwa yanagibashi Bldg. 5F
> Yanagibashi 2-19-6 Taito-ku 	Tokyo 111, Japan
> Denwa: 03-3864-5714 	Fax: 03-3864-0898

-- Chao-Li
--
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: jc2d@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jyh-ching  Chang)
Subject: Re: Olympic Baseball Game
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:11:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.135213.3086@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> tsai@tecrus.enet.dec.com (Kuo-Yeang Tsai) writes:
>
>        Taiwan - Italy 8-2, Cuba-Dominician Republic 8-0,
>        Japan - Puerto Rico 9-0, USA-Spain 4-1


    Could someone post the date and time for the following
few games?  Thanks!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:11308 soc.culture.hongkong:9294 soc.culture.china:21148
From: csachs@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Colin Sachs)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: God knows ! Re: Racial Problem?
Summary: Your stereotypes and bigotry is showing...
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:40:45 GMT
Organization: Linguist at Large, Ohio University, Athens

In article <1992Jul26.220449.29004@ncsu.edu> shchen@eos.ncsu.edu writes:
In reply to a bunch of misconceptions... he adds his own...

>My theories are that -->
>
>1.  Chinese woman likes to blow "The Big One".
>
>2.  The generally oversexed American man will screw anything, anything that 
>    movers, anything that still has a pulse.

Sorry, but I fail to see the relevance of your personal biases and
stereotypes about American men and Chinese women, and what
they have to do with chinese culture.  I sincerly hope that you don't
actually believe the statements you are making.  Somewhere along the
way, an honest question deteriorated into a series of misconeptions,
stereotypical generalities and biased statements. 

Kind of ruins any meaningful dialogue.

-- 
Colin Sachs - csachs@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (or) an116@freenet-in-a.cwru.edu

	"This inside of my head was exploding with fireworks.  Fortunately,
	my last thought turned out the lights when it left."  - Calvin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: lhf@garden.cs.cuhk.hk (Ho-Fung Leung)
Subject: Re: Fortune cookies, sushis, eggrolls etc.
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:32:00 GMT

bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou) writes:


>   I am also wondering why the people here define "sushi" as raw
>   fish?  I've had so many sushis in my life and never once did
>   I see any sign of fish in my sushis!  (well, maybe dried fish
>   or something like that)

I think "sushi" is simply some rice wrapped in seaweed (with vegetable
etc in the centre or on top of it).  Raw fish should be "sashimi".

>   Finally, where did the name Eggroll come from?  In Taiwan we call
>   them "Spring Roll", since we eat them during the spring on the
>   "Tomb Sweeping" day in April, and eventually it grew so popular
>   that people just eat them anytime.  But that still doesn't
>   explain where the EGG comes from!  :-)  What I know as an eggroll
>   is like a fruit rollup made of egg!

Egg roll is different from spring roll.  Egg rolls are made from egg
and flour in the form of a roll.  They are like biscuits.  If you come
to HK you can find a lot of egg rolls.  Spring rolls are different.
The are vegetable (or meat) wrapped inside a roll.  But I am not sure
whether the Taiwan people deep-fried it in oil or not.  In HK when we
think about spring roll, we always have the impression that it must
be deep-fried.  I think in Taiwan or Singapore this might not be the 
always the case.

HF
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: uang@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: NBC......Gan!
Reply-To: uang@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 22:11:52 GMT

In article <uc=vHfkfp8@atlantis.psu.edu>, jclee@atlantis.psu.edu (Chieh-Sheng Lee;;blue) writes:
>I waited two hours just for seeing the appearance of the athletes from
>"Chinese Taipei" in the opening ceremony of the Olympics, and finally
>it's "Swaziland". After the commercial, however, the camera switched
>to the Torch outside the stadium and what did I see next? "Tchekoslovakia"
>(Czechoslovakia).........
>
>I can't help but say: Gan, NBC! (If my memory serves me right, they
>screwed me up 4 years ago, too).
>
>Jason Lee

Wondering what you expected. NBC had to do the commercial segments for those
sponsors who pay them. I guess that many countries were missed during the two
hours period. Rather wait till Taiwan can show her real flag before worrying
about team appearance on the screen.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: hwang@hermes.Berkeley.EDU (Kailan Hwang)
Subject: Re: Radar detector in Taiwan ?
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:34:50 GMT

In article <j2dmg2q.jch@netcom.com> jch@netcom.com (Jack Hwang) writes:
=
=The traffic police in Taiwan did use radars.  However, I havn't heard any
=of my families, relatives, or friends who was caught for speeding.  I think
=the reason might be that there is no road empty enough for the radar to
=be used effectively. :-)  The gadget such as radar detecotrs would just be 
=another decoration in a car.


They do set up a series of Photo-Radar detectors along the #1 Payway(it
is never free at all).  Those detectors either got removed by PD lator
on or got destroyed by the angry drivers. The news papers even showed
some picturse of those detectors with bullet holes on it.  :-)

The news papers did mention that the PD replaced those stationed
detectors with mobile one.

But, the traffic condition in Taiwan is much worser than LA traffic in
the commute hours. In the 12 lane LA freeways, people usually can drive
60 miles bumper to bumper within few inch in the innerest lane, but you
can only drive stop and drive in the nothern part of #1 Payway.
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From: tylee@austin.ibm.com (Ter-Yuan Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: 99% will support Taiwan Independence
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:11:37 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin Advanced Workstation Division
Originator: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com


In article <l6r46vINNnsl@pollux.usc.edu>, mcyang@pollux.usc.edu (Bien-Chao Iunn) writes:
> In article <76346@ut-emx.uucp> joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang) writes:
> >My guess is that only about <50% of Taiwanese really care about
> >unification versus ti.  My goal is to convince those that don't care
> >about unification versus TI itself, that gradual unification will have
> >a good effect on the things that they do care about (the economy for
> >example).
> >
> >I suppose your goal is to convince those people that ROT will have
> >a good effect on those things.
> 
> My guess is that only about <50% of Taiwanese really care about
> unification versus ti.  My goal is to convince those that don't care
> about unification versus TI itself, that official independence will have
> a good effect on the things that they do care about (the security and
> safety for example).
> 
> I suppose your goal is to convince those people that unification with China
> will have a good effect on those things.
> 
> By the way, Mr. Joe Wang, why do you always avoid answering the question
> about the claim of Mr. Lin Rong-San, a KMT Central Standing COmmittee
> member, that 99% of Taiwanese will support independence if there is no
> military threat from Chia ?

Since you brought up this issue again and again, as if you had an edge
on the debate, please don't mind if I butt in for a while.

An explanation to that will be Mr. Lin expemplified the percentage to represent
the people within his immediate access and his election supporters and he
is not even a member of the Legislative House. How can he represent the
99% of the ROC population to spit out that junk.

Ter-Yuan Lee
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com 
Subject: Re: We support Taiwan Independence
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:01:58 GMT

In article <9467@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> linhoo@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>
>Before you make the assertion that "an independent country like Taiwan", can you
>show any evidence to justify it? 
>
>To my knowledge, Taiwan is not an independent country at all, or not yet. She is just 
>a province of china. This has be made clear by both the government located in Taiwan
>and the government in mainland. 
>
>By the way, to promote "Taiwan Independent" you have to first persuade the government 
>in Taiwan to give up her claim on mainland, then mobilize the whole taiwanese to
>prepare for fighting against the "evasion" from mainland.
>
>						--linhoo


Mr./Ms. linhoo:

       Are you suggesting that KMT's ROC government is under the control of prc?
Just like you say, before you make any assertion, be sure to provide any evidence to
justify it. 

       To everyone's knowledge, Taiwan is not taking order(s) from prc. She might be
just a province of "china", but it is the ROC which presently is independent of any 
other countries in the world. This includes prc. In fact, Taiwan is never a part of
the country call itself prc.

       By the way, your statements do not make any sense to any reasonable person.
From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Electronic Matchmaker
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 20:57:41 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Women, I am about to launch a free electronic matching service on 
Usenet.  Unfortunately, more guys than gals have expressed an 
interest so far.  If you would like to see the fourth draft of my 
questionnaire so we can alter it to also fit women's needs as well as 
men's, either send me mail or look at the copy I posted in 
alt.personals.
 
This service is serious and I already have 119 men and 86 women signed
up so far.  The site of the service has already been selected and
programmers are being lined up for the construction of the listserver.
 
I should point out that this questionnaire really, really, really, 
needs some more input on CULTURES.  I need some questions to make sure
that matches are compatible culturally.
 
                                                            Eric Klien
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: jjs@iedv7.acd.com ( James J. Song       )
Subject: Re: US sale of F16s to ROC reconsidered
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:40:24 GMT

In article <76862@ut-emx.uucp> zing@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Leon Z. Lee) writes:
>NBC news reported today that President Bush was reconsidering the sale of
>F-16 high performance fighters to the Republic of China on Taiwan when he
...
>NBC stated that Bush will reconsider the sale of these combat aircraft
>even in forefront of vehement opposition from the PRC.  
...

I surely hope the sale can go through. After Taiwan has made fortune from
US market, US should get some return. Besides, who would ever think that
Taiwan could invade China or defend itself against China invastion with 
those fighter planes? They are basically useless for Taiwan. How cannot
US be in recession when you have a stupid president like Bush?
___
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: lowong@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Lopim Wong)
Subject: address
Summary: need Taiwan U address
Keywords: universities
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:35:56 GMT

Does anyone have the E-mail address from Taiwan's Universities?

Can somebody post it? I appreciated the help, thank you.

lpw