HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sabiani@droogs.vbo.dec.com (Stephane SABIANI)
Subject: Internet Access from France
Keywords: France
Reply-To: sabiani@droogs.vbo.dec.com (Stephane SABIANI)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:57:40 GMT


Hi,

There must be someone somewhere in France that connects to the Internet
without having an account in an university or a company.

I have discovered a Minitel access to Compuserve (36.17 COMPU) but it's
quite expensive.

There have been an interesting posting that summarized how to access from the
UK...does anybody out there have enough information to post one about France ?

If you belong to a company that offers Internet access, you have to know that
a lot of people here would be interested... Some friends are even
calling the US to download a freeware or a driver !!!

Thanks for any info,
Steph.
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: tex@r-node.gts.org (Terence Dulay)
Subject: Internet access in Toronto, Ontario (416)
Organization: Association for the Preservation of Incompetence
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:49:31 GMT

Greetings, fellow netters...



I'm looking for a BBS in the Toronto local calling area that offers Internet
(FTP, Telnet et al) access.  Any help is appreciated.
-- 
Terence M. "Tex" Dulay
tex@eastern.com
tex@r-node.gts.org
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: it1@ra.msstate.edu (Tim Tsai)
Subject: northern NJ? (bergen county)
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Mississippi State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:27:37 GMT

  Anybody know if I can get internet access up there?  A site that has
high speed modems and allows telnet/ftp would be best.  Something like
@world.std.com there?  Thanks..

Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: quicker@128.104.39.173
Subject: Access Services??
Reply-To: quicker@128.104.39.173
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin, Plasma Physics
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:53:34 EDT


	I have been looking into finding an internet access service
	for when I leave the university setting. I was very glad to
	see a posting of companies which provide such service, but 
	sending mail to them has not yielded a single response. It
	has been over a week so I don't know what to think. 

	Has anyone else had any problems with this? Please post to 
	the group or send me e-mail if you have a solution. 

	Thankyou.

	Paul Quicker
	quicker@juno.physics.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: bp268@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Ward)
Subject: Internet/Akron, OH
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:36:28 GMT


I'm looking primarily for reasonably priced TELNET access
within local dialing range of Akron, Ohio (NOT Cleveland, it is
a different local calling area).  Would very much prefer answers
via E-Mail to this address or parth2@aol.com, or to the address
ac702@medina.cwru.edu if the file is going to be a large one.
 
Thanks!
Mike
-- 
Mike Ward - The Home Computer Connection
bp268@cleveland.freenet.edu / ac702@medina.freenet.edu
parth2@aol.com              / Mike_Ward@aldhfn.akron.oh.us
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: rlerdorf@netcom.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)
Subject: Re: Can I telnet to a bitnet site?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 15:21:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

u2116318@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>can i remote login to bitnet from internet?
>or telnet to bitnet? even ftp?

Yes, you can usually both telnet and ftp to a Bitnet site.
-- 
Rasmus Lerdorf			        Nutec North America
Product Manager			        2629 Terminal Blvd.
+1 415 967-4387/967-8818		Mountain View, CA. 94043. USA.
FAX: +1 415 967-8836			internet: rlerdorf@netcom.netcom.com
UUCP: ..!uunet!infoserv!nutec!rasmus	internet: nutec!rasmus@infoserv.com
Newsgroups: alt.internet.access.wanted
From: heiko@Groucho.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Heiko Schlichting)
Subject: Re: German net access?
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Dept. of Chemistry
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:46:25 GMT

David.M.Tillinghast@dartmouth.edu (David M. Tillinghast) writes:

>My girlfriend is about to leave her US college internet access to take
>a job in Germany. We're hoping we'll be able to maintain computer
>communications. Any internet access available in Hessen?

Yes. 
Usenet-News and mails into the internet via UUCP is absolutly no problem 
but direct access via SLIP is still expensive in Germany because of the
phone costs. But it is possible too.

You should contact:

	Individual Network (IN): in@IN-Berlin.DE
and/or
	Verein zur Foerderung der privat betriebenen Datenkommunikation
	("Subnet"): urlichs@smurf.sub.org

or ask in the newsgroup "de.org.in" if available at your site.

Heiko
-- 
Heiko Schlichting                     | Freie Universitaet Berlin
heiko@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de     | Institut fuer Kristallographie
From: lemay@lorelei.Eng.Sun.COM (Laura "Treekiller" Lemay - IWTFM)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Damned if you do, damned if you don't...
Date: 21 Jul 1992 17:24:11 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: lorelei

In article <Brqq6H.HI0@acsu.buffalo.edu> v026ltr5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty) writes:
> I don't really disagree with you, its just that I find it hard to
> stomach complaints for someone whose problems in those areas are
> so trivial. My point was that she has options. 

and earlier:
> Angst? Angst is made of sterner stuff.


Sterner stuff.  Trivial.  Options.  Hmmm.

Weren't you the one who was complaining endlessly about your angst
lying in the fact that you are never going to have a relaitonship again?
Weren't you the one who stated you made a conscious *choice* not to
have any more relationships?

So you're claiming that *my* angst is trivial while your angst is
important?  What is this, some kind of angst competition?  Do we get
medals for whoever has the most angstful angst?  Does the alt.angst
population get to vote for alt.angst poster child of the month?

I didn't post my angst to get the approval of you or the net or
anyone.  I posted it cause I felt angstful at the time.  I still feel
angstful, and even more so now because even though I know you're just
another net.dork on the other side of an anonymous ethernet line, I
feel I have to reply to your posting anyway in order to restore some
sort of sense of worth.  The fact that I have to defend what makes me
feel angstful to someone I don't even know and don't have much respect
for in the first place is pretty sad.

In fact, I'm going to stop right now before I stir myself up into a
veritable tizzy of self-loathing.







--
*********************************************************
Laura Lemay		                    lemay@sun.com
Bitchy vampiric technogoth                       Go away.
*********************************************************
From: denisec@amadeus.wr.tek.com (Denise Caire)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: The Color of Angst
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:41:32 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Jul18.031528.7300@eskimo.celestial.com> boris@eskimo.celestial.com (Dan Phillips) writes:
>I was in a discussion not too long ago concerning unusual coloring books.
>This is the perfect place to pose the question that arose:
  
>  What is the color of angst?

To me, angst is colorless, clear, void of any pigmant what so ever. 
It's illusive at best, can't put my finger on it.  A vacuum.  What color
is a vacuum, a void?  For some, more agony is involved.  For me, it
results in a total numbness, no thoughts, feelings left.  Time to go.

Denise
Everybody dance now..., .., .., the music is my life.
From: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu ("sam hulick")
Subject: Re: The Color of Angst
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:32:27 GMT

>In article <1992Jul18.031528.7300@eskimo.celestial.com> boris@eskimo.celestial.com (Dan Phillips) writes:
>>  What is the color of angst?

Dark black.  Not just "black," *dark* black.  Maybe people have their own
definition of angst, but mine is an evil sadness or anger.  Upset, feeling
hate, feeling dark.  If you want an example of angst music, pick up Metallica's
"..And Justice For All" album.  THAT'S angst.

-- 
####################################################################
#  Sam Hulick  #  On IRC: "Tarador"                                #
####################################################################
           E-mail: shulick@indiana.edu (NeXT mail, too)
From: nexus@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Arseny Nikolaev Markov)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: EVERY TIME I READ THIS NEWSGROUP...
Date: 28 Jul 1992 18:18:32 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:

[ personal whining deleted. THE UNIVERSE DIDN'T CARE. ]


>THERE IS NO ANSWER, 
>NO HOPE, 
>NO RECOURSE;
>WE ARE TRULY LOST.
>THERE IS NO GOD. 
>WE ARE THE STATE. 
>ALL TRUSTS WE WILL BETRAY.

>'Nuff said!

Indeed!

>Christopher

>P.S.	Have a nice day!!!

Have a *nice* trip to the END, Chris. Wish you a pretty funeral with
lots of "THERE WAS NO..." at the ceremony.

P.S. That's what happens when you read too much Kirkegaard or Kafka...
... And get the feeling that you know EVERYTHING about the UNIVERSE.

the NEXUS.
From: jlewis@astro.as.arizona.edu (Jeff Lewis)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: angst and biological urges
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:35:46 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

First of all...angst...it would be great to understand my
angst...as soon as I think I have a handle on things..I'm
back to the start.

So its safe to say that not having a clear picture of your
angst -- is angst in itself...Argggggggg... A vicous circle.

So its seems that once you get to a point in your life with
you being happy with just yourself and your work...it happens
Her...Arggg...maybe I am missing something in the grand scheme
of things but for god sake why does everything have to be about sex?
Is it some universal plan that I missed out on?
Thats another never ending source of angst as well.
What am I missing and why am I missing it?
I am all to familar with sex...its a weapon right?
To be used against you or held from you until
you responsed in the correct manner, yeah thats it.

Somewhere along the line the equation worked out to be
relationships = sex...I am not convinced love => sex or
for that matter that relationships = love...talk about angst
I spend days..weeks trying to work through that one. 
It seems there is a set of rules and nobody told me.

So since a simple word from the right person makes your day
better...or seeing them fills some empty part of your day..
your told by everyone that your obsessing...that there is
no way you could feel that way...but have you boinked her yet?
And since you tell them that you have no sexual intentions
toward them, they make it clear that your 'really weird'.
So now I am wierd..not normal. And my personal favorite...what's
wrong with you?..just can't manage it?  So now I have to
devote a great deal of effort to determining if I am having the
correct biological urges!
So to all you who are getting boinked beyond belief...congrats..
but will someone explain to me why its NOT ok to enjoy a persons
companionship just for the fact that they are who they are.  Either
I need to start associating with a better class of people or
rework my entire view of things. And I am not up to that task.

And if another person asks me..."Hey whats on your mind"  I will
probably got into a nonterminating angst loop.


Geoffrey - the terminally bewildered

jlewis@astro.as.arizona.edu = jeff l lewis  - computer geek|math geek|physics geek

Important Note - the above never used the dreaded 'L' word.

Obligatory Quote -           
****************************************************************
* all puffed up with vanity                                    *
* we see what we want to see                                   *
* to the powerful and the wise                                 *
* the mirror always lies                                       *
*                                N. Peart                      *
****************************************************************
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: See Nick? It's not THAT hard at all!
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:25:35 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

> ...continue with our puny, black, bleak, insignificant little existences on 
> this overheating, over irradiated, racially and sexually segregated ball of 
> capitalistically exploited pus we call the Earth.   

See, Nick? Now THAT's *angst*!!! Not some whiny bitch-bitch complaint-post on
the evils of income tax or the tragedy of the suburban housewife but a *real*
post just overflowing with nihilism and bleak disgust for humanity!!!!!!!!!!!

Now perhaps we can get some more people out there to express their disgust w/
this ugly polluted slimeball we call 'earth'. =)

Kristoph

Let's liberate this newsgroup from the wimps and invigorate it with some real
ANGST!!!!!!!!!

=)
=)
=)
From: dombart@muli.saar.de (John Raoul Dombart)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Monogamy Angst (Was: Re: Damned if you do, damned if you don't...)
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:52:2 GMT

lemay@lorelei.Eng.Sun.COM (Laura "Treekiller" Lemay -
IWTFM @ Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.) wrote...

>- My relationship.  Yeah, I'm getting boinked on a regular basis, and
>  boinked well, so I can't complain there.  And I'm happy with my
>  situation, and happy the way its working out, but I can't help but
>  drool over cute boys I see elsewhere.  I've been monogamous so far,
>  but I can't say it'll stay that way.  So how can I commit properly
>  the way I know he wants me to?

Preface: I always thought monogamy was somehow stupid, but after a
while, I got tired of hurting people like hell and sort of gave in -
without being convinced too much of it.

The situation described is bugging me also for some time now, so I had
a lot of time to think about it.

At this point I think it's a feeling related to the growing knowledge
that I'm bound to live through thousands of beautiful and/or horrible
things in my _life_, but in  the same time also to miss billions of
billions of beautiful and/or horrible things in the _world_.

>- I've come to the conclusion (part of comtemplating being 25) that I will
>  never be in a famous rock band, either as drummer or singer or both.
>  I will probably not change the world no matter how enthusiastically I
>  vote.

Just because my life's too short, because my body wants to sleep every
23 hours ;-) and can't even be simultaneously at different places (not
to speak of other personal reasons...).

And yes, that _is_ a pity. Maybe even a reason for Angst. With capital
"A".

Now listen to what grandpa says: That's a thing you don't experience so
strong while you're young. Being young is (ok, except the exceptions)
being immortal - I mean, as long as you have no real proof of being
mortal, you feel immortal.

And there's no proof like experiencing it on your own body. I think
that's what drives people so crazy when they're around 30.

But I had to accept it - for just one single reason: If I don't do,
the resulting feeling of rush will even mess up the times and places
I _can_ be in.

>Yeah, its been a hard day.  Don't tell me I don't fucking have angst.

No, I won't. But here's another thing: There was a time when I was
angsted because it seemed so impossible to tell people about experien-
ces I've made and thus enable them to reach|avoid them better. The
genuine error was that it isn't impossible.

I just forgot how f*cking _boring_ it is to live on experience that
is not my own.

R.D.

P.S.: Ah yes, the solution for the monogamy problem. I've got none.
      Maybe abolish monogamy.


----
  /\ muli - may unexpected love increase
 /..\ I like to drink coffee before I go bed. Then I can dream faster.
/_\/_\ dombart@muli.saar.de
From: ABienek@acorn.co.uk (Alex Bienek)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Career down the toilet angst
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:05:28 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <machala.711993619@delphi> machala@delphi.hc.ti.com
(Chuck Machala ) writes:
>
>You must be in AI :)
>
>Chuck Machala

Oh, how I wish I was. I dream of being in AI.
I'll make the coffee, sweep the floor, anything !
Around here they think AI is getting the machine to
pop up the right menu at the right time.
 
Menu driven software is another great source of angst
to me. We have a PAL programmer which has about 50
pages of devices listed, and you have to look
through them to find the one you want. Arrrghhhh !!

Alex.
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: My friend Dave
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:34:23 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Dave!  Dave!  Dave!  Your posting made my day! Or at least part of the 
afternoon.  I had been away in the morning, boning up on rec.motorcycle after
tin (tin?) decides to go 'funny' and forget about a months reading.  I got to
your post about 3 1/2 o watch and laughed out loud for about five minutes, 
getting some funny and angry glances from some of the many bofs that comprise
this hellhole-called-work.  I thought that 8 weeks without sex (the two-person)
variety was really terrible, but now I know this isn't so!


Nick            DoD 1069                (How do you get a .sig with tin(tin)? )

42 ?

"Just another brick...."
Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Teresa C D Carstensen)
Subject: Re: Damned if you do, damned if you don't...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:47:20 GMT

In article <Brr2Ey.M8@acsu.buffalo.edu> v026ltr5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Monty) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.145858.15558@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
>tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Teresa C D Carstensen) writes...
>>Oh, geez, I hate it when you guys play my-angst-is-worse-than-your-angst.
>
>Did I say this? Did I come close to saying this? No.

It might not be what you intended, but it sure sounded that way.

> I just
>said its hard to accept for someone in (for example) my position.
>Comparatively, I think her problems are rather trivial and cannot
>comprehend how not getting a bigger raise causes angst. I'm not
>saying there's NO angst, I'm just saying its hard to see. Just
>as maybe my life would seem fine to a Pakistani AIDS patient.

If you didn't understand what exactly was so angst-inducing about her 
predicament, perhaps you should have just asked her to explain why this
bothered her so much.  If someone is bothered enough about something to 
complain about it here where thousands of people could read about it, it is
a very real angst to him or her regardless of whether you understand it.  To
flame someone because you think their angst is piddly shows a complete lack
of respect for their feelings.  
>
>>So do you.  There are ALWAYS options.  It's quite possible that the options
>>available to you are not what you'd consider good (or even feasable) solutions
>>to your problems.  The same is probably true of Laura's options.
>
>If it isn't feasible, it isn't an option, is it?

Let's be nit-picky, eh?  I hate my job and have the option of quitting.
However, I don't think it's feasable to quit when the job market is in such 
poor shape while I've got financial responsibilities that require the income
I've got.  That does not mean that quitting is *not* an option for me.  It
just means that it is a lousy one.    

 (some lines deleted for brevity)
>This is all contrary to what she herself said, that she is perfectly
>content with the relationship. Her problem SEEMS to be being too
>shallow to stay faithful

Wouldn't you be ansgtful if you wanted to stay faithful to someone but were
afraid that you didn't have the maturity to do so?  
>
>>Grrrrrrrrrr.
>
>Very eloquent

You got my point (at least on that last line.  Obviously you didn't get it
elsewhere).
>
>/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>{                                            | Matthew P. Mason        }
>{          are 'friends' electric?           | SUNY Buffalo Law School }
>{                                            | v026ltr5@ubvms.bitnet   }
>\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/


TC   
-- 
tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: mikey@ontek.com (euphausia superba)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: pez
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:42:44 GMT
Organization: Ontek Corporation -- Laguna Hills, California

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Newsgroups: alt.angst
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.angst
Subject: Re: Lotto angst
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:57:48 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <17316@acorn.co.uk> ABienek@acorn.co.uk (Alex Bienek) writes:
>In article <Jul.27.14.17.39.1992.9398@presto.ig.com> stuczyns@presto.ig.com (Martin Stuczynski) writes:
>
>> What would all you angsters do if you won the lottery?? 
>>
>>-Marty
>                                                          
>I'd open the 'Get A Life' angst clinic and dating agency for 
>angstaholics.
>Facilites at the clinic would include desks, complete
>with phones and 'puters, for those with useless degrees
>to pretend that they had jobs.
>There'd be seminars on social skills and 'How to present
>a constructive argument having understood the others
>point of view'.
>Where would the clinic be based ? Arizona 
>


wow! a job market for me in arizona! finally! it would, of course, have to
have a branch in sunny t00son! that way, i could take our marvelous transit
system to work every day...


ObAngst: rememebr how i failed a student in last semester's class who was in
the learning disabled program? not only did the program counselor call me up
and harass me, but  the student's _mother_ called me to in turn beg, bully,
and bitch me out..when i pointed out that this was in fact not elementary
school, but university, and that the student should talk to me herself, the 
irate motehr told me that she would have, but that she (the student) was 
suicidal over failing my class....how lovely. "student kills self over astro
101L grade--news at 11".

needless to say, i went all self-righteous and told mommie dearest that giving 
her darling daughter free points would be wrong, and that i would not do it...
but i still can't believe that happened...she spent over an hour telling me 
things like "you're a bright girl--you haven't had to face the adversity in
getting a college education that my daughter has"..and i kept wanting to tell
her about my incredibly sexist parents, but i didn't. i just told her no.

bah.




--
		-just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      "Chastity..the most unnatural of all the sexual perversions...."
					-Aldous Huxley