HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little)
Subject: ARRL 10 meter preamp help?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:05:43 GMT
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

I just finished building a bread board version of the dual gate MOSFET 10 
meter preamp described in the ARRL Handbook.  My problem is that I can't
get the thing to function properly.  At the moment it operates more as an
attenuator than an amplifier.  

I can peak the variable capacitor, but find very little change in signal
strength when adjusting the slug tuned coil.  The coil is one I wound
myself on a form a salvaged from another coil.

The write up describes circuit placement as not being critical and this is
after all only 28 MHz.  I'm at a loss to figure out how to "debug" the
circuit.  Any suggestions?

73,
Todd
N9MWB
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: k2ph@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (The QRPer)
Subject: Re: Origin of "88's" and "73's" ?
Organization: QRM Central
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:05:56 GMT

I can't stand it!  There is no "'s" on the end of either
88 or 73.  88 means "love and kisses" while 73 means
"best regards."  Neither one of them could possibly
possess anything!

There, I feel better now.  :-)

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------
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AT&T Bell Laboratories | Internet: k2ph@mtdcr.att.com
Middletown, N.J. 07748 | ICBM:     40o21'N, 74o8'W
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:22215 comp.sys.atari.st:19474
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: F3C Radio-FAX with atariST?
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 11:16:17 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Parnell New Zealand.

schumann@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Johann Schumann) writes:

> Is there any program (ftp ?) for receiving F3C Radio-FAXs on the
> atari 1040ST (or IBM PC)? Where can I find circuit-diagrams for an 
> adaptor radio-atari?
> 
> Thanks
> Johann
> 
 
 Yes there is. In an old Antic magazine there is software and a curcuit
 using the XR2211 chip for Fax,Rtty,Morse etc .. I think from memory the
 year was about 1987 and June or July rings a bell.
 
 I still have one here in the draw and I used to use it for the Met fax's
 distributed in HF and for the weather satellites on 136mhz.
 
 Good luck with the quest


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From: fletcher@moho.uwyo.EDU (Walter Reid Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Suggested ARRL 70 cm band plan...
Date: 12 Jan 93 04:38:00 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


"OOOOkay kitty cats.  READ MY BEAK!"  or something along those lines.

I have been watching the purported actual band plans being represented
in this forum for the past several editions.  The numbers given all seemed
close but not exactly what I remembered as being correct.  My main concern
came from the lack of mention of the subband from 433-435.  I picked up
my repeater directories for the past 4 years and browsed the 70 cm band
plan once again.  This is what they say:

420.000 - 432.000   two ea. 6 mhz wide TV channels

432.000 - 433.000   various subbands of mixed mode, EME, weak signal, CW,
                    and propagation beacons.

433.000 - 435.000   AUXILLIARY / REPEATER links (I assume mostly FM...)

435.000 - 438.000   Satellite only

438.000 - 444.000   Another ATV allocation that overlaps the next entry...

442.000 - 445.000   repeater inputs / outputs

445.000 - 447.000   shared by AUXILLIARY/CONTROL links, repeaters, AND
                    SIMPLEX operation.

447.000 - 450.000   more repeater inputs / outputs

I guess if you are running FM with 2 mhz deviation, then the poster saying
there is only one simplex channel (at 446.000 mhz) is indeed correct ...

Have a nice day.
From: brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Info-Hams-Trash-Relay
Date: 5 Jan 1993 23:11:33 GMT
Organization: The Avant-Garde of the Now, Ltd.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Info-hams-relay winds up in my mailbox.  The crap you're seeing in this
newsgroup is the result of broken or poorly-maintained mailers that
don't know enough to reply to the errors address, but instead insist on
sending automatic notifications to the list address instead.

In other words, it's not my fault.

I have some filters in place, but with the burgeoning growth of broken
mail software as people connect proprietary mail systems (most of them
PC-based) to the internet, I suspect it's going to outstrip my ability
to keep adding to the filters.

What I seriously suggest you do, is if you see such an article appear,
you should
	1) write a note to the site involved and tell them they have
	a real steaming heap of s**t for a mailer
and
	2) forge a cancellation for the message so others don't have
	to put up with mail pukes.

I'm doing both of these, but sometimes they get away from me.  We all
can help.
	- Brian
From: ees1mw@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK (Mike Willis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Need to measure PEP
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:55:37 GMT
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, UK.

I need a simple circuit that will enable me to convert an average reading
type wattmeter to measure PEP. Some form of sample&hold or peak detector.
This will allow me to know how much pep I am producing without needing to
whistle into the microphone on SSB, much better for the o/p valve.

I tried using a dual op-amp but it has too much i/p bias, I know I could
use a better amp but that only reduces the problem. The output from the
diode detector is only a few 10s of mV. Actually 20W is 300mV, 200W 3V etc
(square law). I want to measure 2W to 500W or 30mV to 7.5V pep, in several
ranges. The problem arises at 30mV.  
A standard diode in feedback loop plus capacitor on inverting input to ground 
op-amp circuit suffers at low input levels where input offset currents of
a few nA are significant.

Hope somone has solved this before and can help.

73 Mike
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Ringo Ranger II performance
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 13:58:43 GMT

In article <HIDEG.93Jan8165103@spsd630a.erim.org> hideg@spsd630a.erim.org (Steve Hideg) writes:
>Diamonds are more rugged, eh?
>
>I'm using an X-500 for a UHF repeater, and a friend has one at home. Both
>of these antennas have had major water leakage problems.
>
>I sent mine back to RF Components (or whatever their name is), and they found
>nothing wrong with it.
>
>We have since crammed each joint on both antennas with sealant. When we
>tightened the collars, sealant goop oozed out of them.
>
>My friend took off work early this evening to take his X-500 down because
>it has apparently "sprung a leak" again.
>
>Anyway, just a friendly warning.

A friendly suggestion, these antennas aren't *supposed* to be sealed.
There's supposed to be an open drain hole at the bottom to allow
condensation out. This is standard for this style of construction.
The commercial antennas built with fiberglass radomes also have drain
holes. They've got to be allowed to breathe or they will fill with
condensation. Sounds like you and your friend have stopped up the
holes.

Gary

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
From: cep4478@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.E. Piggott )
Subject: Re: Who do repeater coordinators represent?
Originator: cep4478@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:45:20 GMT

In article <eNTRwB1w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca> emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:
>and that in many areas, all available repeater frequencies were assigned 
>BEFORE Packet became popular. There are several possible solutions here. 
>1. Persuade some local group to "give-up" a voice repeater frequency so
>   you can put up a packet repeater.

Statements like "I heard packet works better through a repeater" concern
me (not that you said that - I've just heard it before).  One of the
potential strengths of packet is as a distributed, redundant system.
Adding a repeater greatly reduces collisions, but at a significant
expense:

	- the repeater is a single point-of-failure, and
		many people will not be able to or know
		how to operate without it when the repeater
		dies
	- repeater coverage rarely stays localized.  After
		a while, a better antenna, more power, etc.
		and you wind up with a wide-coverage packet
		repeater that is jammed up.


-- 
Christopher E. Piggott, WZ2B                    cep4478@ultb.isc.rit.edu
President                                       wz2b.ampr [44.69.0.1]
Rochester Institute of Technology               wz2b @ WB2PSI.#WNY.NY.USA.NA
Amateur Radio Club K2GXT                        CEP4478@RITVAXA.BITNET
From: milewski@oregon.uoregon.edu (Steve Milewski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: KH5K ... Can we get 'em?
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Date: 6 Jan 1993 16:24:21 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: fp2-st-affairs-3.uoregon.edu

I was discussing the upcoming KH5K operation with a friend of mine
yesterday and he mentioned seeing a posting about this on a DX packet
board.

The posting says that since KH5K is the 4th most wanted country in Europe,
this operation will "focus" on working Europeans. Does anyone in the know
have any info as to how long and when the operation will operate so that we
statesiders can work them too?

Just because all big guns have already worked KH5K doesn't mean we little
guys need it any less.

Thanks,
Steve/ AA7FL
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: camerond@cc4.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: JVFAX and Hamcomm interface for IBM PC
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:02:29 GMT

Has anyone had success with the simple interfaces for RTTY and WEFAX 
described in HamComm 2.1 and jvfax respectively.   I am confused by the 
documentation as to which pins receive the +ve and -ve  voltages.  I    
believe it should be pin 4 +ve and pin 7 -ve on the 741 IC, originating     
from  pins 20 and 4 respectively on the communications port.
In any case, I get +5.4V on pin 4 and +4.6V on pin 7.

I have tried building the circuit twice, and have checked that
 I have a signal on the input (pin 3), but I get no output, probably
because of the biasing problem.

I would appreciate email from anyone who has used this circuit
and these programs.  Do I have to do something to configure my
 communications port?  Could there be a conflict with my internal modem
currently configured as port 4?  I am trying to use port 2 for these
programs.

I am using the jvfax 5.0 program and the interface available through
the help menu.

Don Cameron VE3NVU

camerond@crl.aecl.ca
From: laborde@oak.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Gregory R. LaBorde)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: On private repeaters
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:57:22 GMT
Organization: Reliability Engineering Section, JPL
Distribution: na
Expires: 1/29/93
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak.jpl.nasa.gov

In article <8403@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>
>Looks like 445-447 does just fine, actually...There's nothing wrong with
>running simplex on a control link frequency...

But Tad wouldn't like it!

-Greg
(Sorry, couldn't resist)
From: oler@rho.uleth.CA (Cary Oler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Daily Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for 09 January
Date: 10 Jan 93 09:14:17 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 009, 01/09/93
10.7 FLUX=128.8  90-AVG=140        SSN=131      BKI=3333 3322  BAI=013
BGND-XRAY=B2.5     FLU1=1.6E+06  FLU10=1.1E+04  PKI=3333 3333  PAI=014
  BOU-DEV=030,036,025,020,036,023,017,013   DEV-AVG=025 NT     SWF=00:000
 XRAY-MAX= B6.2   @ 2157UT    XRAY-MIN= B2.2   @ 1630UT   XRAY-AVG= B3.1
NEUTN-MAX= +003%  @ 1810UT   NEUTN-MIN= -002%  @ 2320UT  NEUTN-AVG= +0.0%
  PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2235UT     PCA-MIN= -0.3DB @ 1120UT    PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
BOUTF-MAX=55426NT @ 0528UT   BOUTF-MIN=55401NT @ 1953UT  BOUTF-AVG=55415NT
GOES7-MAX=P:+113NT@ 2106UT   GOES7-MIN=N:+001NT@ 0001UT  G7-AVG=+074,+028,+010
GOES6-MAX=P:+134NT@ 1910UT   GOES6-MIN=E:-013NT@ 0523UT  G6-AVG=+093,-002,+037
 FLUXFCST=STD:130,125,125;SESC:130,125,125 BAI/PAI-FCST=015,012,010/015,010,010
    KFCST=3343 3333 3333 3322  27DAY-AP=006,007   27DAY-KP=2001 2222 2312 2221
 WARNINGS=
   ALERTS=
!!END-DATA!!
From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Converting 49Mhz Toys to 6 meters
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:20:40 GMT
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA
X-Disclaimer: "Me, speak for us?"
X-Witty-Saying: "Mobius strip - see other side for instructions"

In article <Tk1uwB2w164w@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org>,
    stevej@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org (Steven Jarosh, KA0VYB) writes:

| > No wonder Tandy (RS) have a reputation here for over-priced junk...
| 
| Tandy can't take all the blame.  Don't forget about Australia's user 
| unfriendly Customs Ministry for those of us not associated with the 
| Commonwealth.

Perhaps, but that does not detract from the popular view that Tandy (Aus)
sell over-priced junk...  I am always amused at their resistors, packed
in individual blister packs, for about 20 cents each...

Evidently the Tandy in Australia is nothing like the Radio Shack in USA.

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@esi.COM.AU                ...munnari!esi.COM.AU!dave
From: gallaghe@gdc.com (Robert Gallagher)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wanted: ICOM IC-726 MOD Information
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:31:32 GMT
Organization: General DataComm Ind. Inc., Middlebury, CT 06762
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I tried to post this early but have not seen it appear yet. If this is a repeat 
I apologize.

What I am really looking for is a FTP site that may have any information on 
the ICOM IC-726.  If an FTP site is not available and you can e-mail any info.
to me I would greatly appreciate it. 

Thanks in advance,

Rob - N1CXH

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*   Robert Gallagher                                                         *
*   email - gallagher@gdc.com                                                *
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From: milewski@oregon.uoregon.edu (Steve Milewski)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: KH5K ... Can we get 'em?
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:09:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: fp2-st-a.milewski-080193131035
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Oregon
NNTP-Posting-Host: fp2-st-affairs-3.uoregon.edu

In article <1681@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM>,
tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton) wrote:

> Steve, you shouldn't have any problem at all.  The expedition will
> 
> probably only be able to focus on Europe and Africa for 3 to 4 hours
> per day, particularly the way the sunspots have been dropping off
> lately.  By the way, be careful of which station you log.  The
> Palmyra and Kingman Reef stations will be on the air simultaneously.
> Good luck to you! I need them both on 80 meters, so I'll be trying to
> get through the *Midwest Curtain* to work them. 73, Tom WB4IUX (in S. C.)
> 
> 
Tom:
Good luck getting through (I'd rather call it *the WALL*) the curtain to
the KH5 & KH5K. The KP5 gave us West Coasters that problem. Luckily I got
'em on 15 but no luck on any other bands.

Steve/AA7FL
From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430 mhz band under th (now repeater costs)
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 16:18:01 EST
Organization: Private UUCP "Twig" Node
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00

In article <C05L02.15s@iat.holonet.net>, Bob Wilkins n6fri writes:

> You know that many nets operate on 20 40 75 meters, they are essentially
> closed nets for the most part. Only open to the partisipants. It is rare
> that anyone jumps up and down about that.
> 
> -- 
> Bob Wilkins    n6fri          voice 440.250+ 100pl san francisco bay area
> bwilkins@holonet.net          packet n6fri @ w6pw.#nocal.ca.us
>  

        These nets go away after they're done.  Net Control doesn't sit
around after the net is adjourned and say "Hey!  Get off of here, we talk
here on a net sometimes!  You're not my friend so you can't talk here
anyways!".  I know that friendship isn't always the case for closed
repeaters but it _often_ is.

--
 Craig Lemon VE3XCL (Advanced) - Kitchener, Ontario. +1 519 741 0297
 clemon@lemsys.UUCP clemon%lemsys@xenitec.on.ca  | 1B Electrical Engineering
 TCP/IP: ve3xcl@ve3xcl.ampr.org [44.135.84.51]   |  University of Waterloo
 AX.25 Packet: ve3xcl@ve3euk.#SWON.ON.CAN.NA     | Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
From: stevej@pillock.moron.vware.mn.org (Steven Jarosh, KA0VYB)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430MHz band under threat!
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 00:45:18 CST
Organization: 11th Hour Contest Group (North American Chapter)

feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:

> Does this proposed change have any impact on HAMS in the United
> States?
> -- 
> Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
>  
>                         Happy Holidays to ALL!!!

What affects part of the HAM community is of interest to all the HAM 
community!!

Steve KA0VYB
From: jjw@precipice.chi.il.us (John Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Schematic for SBE Sidebander 6?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 10:14:33 CST
Organization: Welch Research, McHenry IL, USA

    I've got a SBE Sidebander 6 that sounds like the AGC is
always at the maximum.  I can hear signals OK, but I get a solid
S-5 noise level, even with all the electronic gizmos turned off.
Additionally, volume of the received signals varies with their
strength.
    Does anybody have a schematic for this old radio, or has
anybody cured this problem in one before? I'll pay copying and
shipping expenses.
73 de N9JZW  NNN0WYZ  Joh
From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Charles Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: WWV Phone number?
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:16:02 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <C0GouC.DAp@iat.holonet.net>, bwilkins@iat.holonet.net (Bob Wilkins n6fri) writes:
|> rfc@allegra.att.com (Robert F. Casey) writes:
|> : In article <930106.091519@3Mail.3Com.COM> Peter_Simpson@3mail.3com.COM writes:
|> : >
|> : >I seem to have misplaced the telephone number for WWV's time
|> : >service. Could some kind person who knows it, please email me
|> : >the number (I seem to remember it's a toll call to Colorado)
|> : 
|> : 1-303-499-7111
|> : 
|> : Same audio you get on the radio.  (least it sounds the same!)
|>  
|> Is there a propagation delay via phone line ?
|> 
|> -- 
|> Bob Wilkins    n6fri          voice 440.250+ 100pl san francisco bay area
|> bwilkins@holonet.net          packet n6fri @ w6pw.#nocal.ca.usa.na
|>  

there are propagation delays via any medium, by definition.  other than
a vacuum, the speed of light is decreased, thus delayed.

phone lines are a nightmare due to not knowing the route the signal
takes.  if you need absolute accuracy, then the phone is not the way to go.

73,

chuck k5fo
From: chrisc@biggus.moron.vware.mn.org (Chris Cox  W0/G4JEC)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 1200Mhz is not a microwave band!
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:18:08 GMT
Organization: Twin Cities Metro Area Network, Minneapolis, MN

taylor@tix.timeplex.COM (Seth Taylor) writes:
> Since so called "microwave ovens" operate in the UHF designation
> frequency range why don't we call them a "UHF" ? Think about that

Probably because they use conventional microwave techniques; e.g. 
magnetron
> 
> Seth T. KC2WE
-- 
73  Chris Cox  W0/G4JEC
chrisc@biggus.g4jec.tcman.ampr.org     chrisc@biggus.moron.vware.mn.org
 Eleventh Hour Contest Group - North American Chapter; Minneapolis, MN
   Twin Cities Metro Area Network node (biggus.g4jec.tcman.ampr.org)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:15:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan06.234245.7665@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>In article <1993Jan3.184611.5834@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>
>>You have that backwards, it won't do *you*, the repeater owner, any
>>good because it only refers to interference between *repeater* stations.
>>The applicable regulation for the case you state is 97.101(b) which
>>says "No frequency will be assigned for the exclusive use of any station."
>>As long as there is no *on going* QSO on the repeater that suffers 
>>interference by the simplex use, the simplex user is not in violation.
>>Someone who comes on and attempts to "talk over" the packet transmission
>>*would* be in violation for malicous interference.
>
>So a repeater has NO defense against a jammer who sets up a packet
>station on its freq?  The packet TNC will not transmit when there
>is a signal present, so you are saying that the repeater user who 
>attempts to talk on the repeater at any time after the jamming TNC
>has been set up could be cited because he is talking over the
>"simplex user"??

No, not if he waited for transmission to cease before transmitting,
maximum 7 seconds with standard packet TNCs.  Then *he* would have the 
channel and the packet station would be interfering with *him* if it 
didn't hold off for the duration of his usage. This is just like HF or 
any other amateur use, the station transmitting has the right of way 
for the duration of his transmission.

Packet could be a good sharing partner as a matter of fact since it's
designed to hold off automatically when the channel is busy. The big
problem is determining when the channel is free. That would probably
require a secondary receiver on the repeater output frequency to
supply a carrier DCD to the TNC. Notice that the intent is not to
*jam*, the intent is to *share* the frequency in accordance with
97.101(b). We actually played with this for a while with our repeater,
but finally put up a separate repeater for packet only since sharing
reduced packet thruput too much during drive time.

Gary
-- 
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary      
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc