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From: arl@cs.hut.fi (Ari Lemmke)
Subject: TERM ja nic.funet.fi (oli: Re: DNet Linuxiin)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
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Distribution: sfnet
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 18:24:49 GMT

In article <SINKKONE.92Dec19173049@plootu.Helsinki.FI> sinkkone@plootu.Helsinki.FI (Janne Sinkkonen) writes:
:   Joo. Osaan kyll{ uploadata nicciin. Kysyn ohjelman tekij{lt{, saako
:   sen laittaa nicciin (kyseess{ on BETA).

	Juttelin tekijan kanssa ircissa (kanava #linux), hanen
	mukaansa tauhkaa ei ollut julkaistu, mutta uusi versio
	on jo stabiili, joten pyysi laittamaan termin nakyville.
	Nicissa term + muu termiin liittyva tauhka on peilattuna
	hakemistossa: /pub/OS/Linux/BETA/term

	Ala odota BETA kamalta liikoja, keskustelu termista
	Linux Activists -postituslistan term-kanavalle.
	['echo foo | mail linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi'
	niin saat ohjeet].

:   Tauhkasta on ainakin toistaiseksi tullut jatkuvasti uusia versioita.

	Loinkin nicciin paremman tavan peilata uusia versioita,
	ja pyrin nappaamaan nicciin kaiken kiinnostavan softan
	levytilan asettamissa rajoissa (nyt vain 30MB vapaana...).

	Ehka postaan, jos saan tehtya tyokalun, listan myos
	peilattavista kamoista, en kuitenkaan ALPHA:n alla
	olevasta softasta.

	Jos jostain tarvitsisi viela tiedottaa enemman, voisiko
	jengi ilmoittaa myos minulle? en ainakaan viela osaa
	lukea ajatuksianne tai kuule voihkintaanne ;-)

:   Janne

	arl
Newsgroups: sfnet.atk.linux
From: janne@audrey.pc.Helsinki.FI (Janne Sinkkonen)
Subject: Re: TERM ja nic.funet.fi (oli: Re: DNet Linuxiin)
Reply-To: Janne.Sinkkonen@helsinki.fi
Organization: University of Helsinki (Finland)
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Distribution: sfnet
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 19:57:25 GMT

arl@cs.hut.fi (Ari Lemmke) writes:

	   Ala odota BETA kamalta liikoja, keskustelu termista
	   Linux Activists -postituslistan term-kanavalle.
	   ['echo foo | mail linux-activists-request@niksula.hut.fi'
	   niin saat ohjeet].

BETA on tietysti aina BETA, mutta olen k{ytt{nyt TERMi{ jo kuukausia
(my|s X:n kanssa), ja nykyinen versio todellakin on stabiili (olettaen
ett{ kaikki asetukset on oikein... kannattaa kiinnitt{{ erityist{
huomiota siihen mit{ TERMRC:hen laittaa). 

Janne
Newsgroups: sfnet.atk.linux
From: sinkkone@plootu.Helsinki.FI (Janne Sinkkonen)
Subject: Re: 0.99.1 ja sarjaportit
Organization: University of Helsinki (Finland)
Distribution: sfnet
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:14:29 GMT

jiivee@hut.fi (Juha Virtanen) writes:

   Serial driver version 3.1 with AUTO_IRQ NEW_INTERRUPT_ROUTINE enabled       EGAc

Muistaakseni Makefiless{ tai config-scriptiss{ on flagi/kysymys, jolla
sarjaportien automaattisen konfiguroinnin saa pois p{{lt{. Ota se pois
p{{lt{, ja yrit{ k{{nt{{ uudelleen. Sarjaporttisi n{ittiv{t
kohtuullisen standardeilta, niin ett{ niiden pit{isi kyll{ toimia
ilman autoconfigia.

Janne
From: siponen@cs.hut.fi (Lauri Siponen)
Newsgroups: sfnet.atk.linux
Subject: Re: Naytonohjain-kysymys
Date: 29 Dec 92 14:55:27
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: sfnet
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In-reply-to: siponen@cs.hut.fi's message of 28 Dec 92 16:00:08

In article <SIPONEN.92Dec28160008@rook.hut.fi> siponen@cs.hut.fi (Lauri Siponen) writes:

   Koneessa on WD90C31 ... 

Korjaus {skeiseen. Korttini on PVGA1D ja siin{ on piiri WD90C30. 
Toimii loistavasti 640x480 ja 800x600 resoluutioilla. 1024x768 on 
v{h{n heikompi. Ja X11 on viime kes{inen versio, ei nykyinen XFree.

Lauri
From: jiivee@hut.fi (Juha Virtanen)
Newsgroups: sfnet.atk.linux
Subject: 0.99.1 ja sarjaportit
Date: 31 Dec 92 11:48:06
Organization: HUT - Finland
Distribution: sfnet
Reply-To: jiivee@hut.fi
NNTP-Posting-Host: robocop.cs.hut.fi


Useista yrityksist{ huolimatta en ole saanut k{{nnetty{ 0.99.1 kerneli{
siten, ett{ sarjaportit toimisivat. Allaolevan SLS-boottikorpun tulostuksen
ensimm{inen rivi on n{ytt{{ silt{ milt{ sen pit{isikin (ainakin luulen
niin). Ongelma on se, ett{ moinen ei ei tunnu onnistuvan itse k{{nt{m{ll{.
Voiko vanha vaersio ld86:sta vaikuttaa asiaan (using old stat call...)?
Tuo serialdriver on p{{asiassa sit{ mielt{, ett{ en min{ tarvitse mit{{n
sarjaportteja... bad for me.

T{rkeit[ tietoja: Linux kernel 0.99 ja gcc2.2.2d7, jump4.1, shlibs4.1;
perussysteemi SLS-paketista, gcc haettu erikseen nicist{. Koneenni on
486dx/33MHz, 64k/8MB, n{ytt| Trident 8900c 2.11.

On toinenkin, ei tosin kovin vakava, ongelma: df ei n{yt{ ollenkaan
rootpartitiota, ainoastaan /usr ja /dos -partitiot. Homma tuntuu kuitenkin
toimivan.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Serial driver version 3.1 with AUTO_IRQ NEW_INTERRUPT_ROUTINE enabled       EGAc
ttys0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450
ttys1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16450
8 virtual consoles
lp_init: lp1 exists (0)
Logitech Bus mouse detected and installed.
Microsoft Bus mouse detected and installed.
 
ATI Inport Bus mouse detected and installed.
scsi : 0 hosts.
scsi : detected 0 SCSI disks 0 tapes 0 CD-ROM drives total.
Memory: 7436k/8448k available (560k kernel, 384k reserved, 68k data)
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
sock_init: initializing family 1 (AF_UNIX)
sock_init: initializing family 2 (AF_INET)
Loopback device init
Warning WD8013 board not found at i/o = 280.
hda :
 part 1 start 17 size 208675 end 208691
hdb :
 part 1 start 1 size 32639 end 32639
 part 2 start 32640 size 24752 end 57391
 part 3 start 57392 size 197200 end 254591
Partition tables ok.
Linux version 0.99-47 (root@softland) 12/14/92 19:41:34
/dev/modem: No such file or directory
/dev/hdb3 on /usr type ext (defaults)
Adding Swap: 12372k swap-space
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hyv{{ Uutta Vuotta kaikille.
--

	terv,
		Juha
From: jiivee@hut.fi (Juha Virtanen)
Newsgroups: sfnet.atk.linux
Subject: Re: 0.99.1 ja sarjaportit
Date: 3 Jan 93 21:58:32
Organization: HUT - Finland
Distribution: sfnet
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Reply-To: jiivee@hut.fi
NNTP-Posting-Host: robocop.cs.hut.fi
In-reply-to: sinkkone@plootu.Helsinki.FI's message of Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:14:29 GMT

Janne Sinkkonen vastaa:

   Muistaakseni Makefiless{ tai config-scriptiss{ on flagi/kysymys, jolla
   sarjaportien automaattisen konfiguroinnin saa pois p{{lt{. Ota se pois
   p{{lt{, ja yrit{ k{{nt{{ uudelleen. Sarjaporttisi n{ittiv{t
   kohtuullisen standardeilta, niin ett{ niiden pit{isi kyll{ toimia
   ilman autoconfigia.

Sill{, oliko autoconfig p{{ll{ tai ei, ei tuntunut olevan mit{{n
vaikutusta.  Vaihdoin jo linux-0.99.2:en, mutta my|sk{{n sen
kanssa eiv{t sarjaporttini suostu suoraan toimimaan.

Ongelmaa tutkailtuani tulin siihen lopputulokseen, ett{
linux-0.99 .../kernel/chr_drv/serial.c toimii koneessani, mutta
uudemmat versiot eiv{t.  Alla diffit serial.c-0.99 vs
serial.c-0.99.2. Korvattuani 0.99.2 serial.c:n vanhemmalla sain
hommat toimimaan.

Mainittakoon viel{, ett{ toimimaton ohjelma oli kermit-5A.184.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
62c62
< #define NEW_INTERRUPT_ROUTINE
---
> #undef NEW_INTERRUPT_ROUTINE
404,406c404,405
< 		if (((status & (UART_MSR_DCD|UART_MSR_DDCD)) == UART_MSR_DDCD)
< 		    && info->tty->session > 0)
< 			kill_sl(info->tty->session,SIGHUP,1);
---
> 		if ((status & (UART_MSR_DCD|UART_MSR_DDCD)) == UART_MSR_DDCD)
> 			tty_hangup(info->tty);
526,529c525,526
< 			if (!clear_bit(RS_EVENT_HUP_PGRP, &info->event)) {
< 				if (info->tty->session > 0)
< 					kill_sl(info->tty->session,SIGHUP,1);
< 			}
---
> 			if (!clear_bit(RS_EVENT_HUP_PGRP, &info->event))
> 				tty_hangup(info->tty);
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

--

	terv,
		Juha
Newsgroups: sfnet.atk.linux
From: luru@stekt7.oulu.fi (Ari Husa)
Subject: Packet drivers
Organization: The Buffalo Club
Distribution: sfnet
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:34:33 GMT

Toimiiko Linuxille portattu KA9Q jollakin tavoin (onko systeemiin
viel{ saatavassa muuta verkkotukea?) Clarksonin packet-ajureiden
kanssa?

Tilanne on se, ett{ meill{ on muutama pakettiradiota varten
tarkoitettu spesiaali-IO-kortti (8530-pohjainen Ottawa PI adapter) ja
tarkoitus olisi kenties pystytt{{ Linux-kone routeriksi ja kenties
FTP-palvelijaksi, postikoneeksi ja mit{ viel{.. DOS-versiossa korttia
ajellaan packet-driverilla.

Onko Linux-KA9Q:ssa mukana AX.25 -tuki ja muut radioamat||riliikenteen
kummallisuudet?

Riitt{{k| 386sx/16 (vast.) kohtuudella tarkoitukseen kun t|pselein{ on
Ethernet-kortti, PI (ulosp{in nopeus noin 56 kbit/s) ja ehk{ viel{
yksi RS-portin kautta ajettava TNC?

Onko kukaan kokeillut Linuxia pakettiradiok{yt|ss{? Kokemuksia?

Vaihtoehtona meill{ on turvautua "helpompaan" DOS-NOSsiin ja karsia
koneen tarjoamia palveluja.

	Luru

	/// 
	o-o    Ham Radio Operators Do It In Higher Frequency
	 o


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From: alanchem@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Alan Scott Olson)
Newsgroups: milw.general,milw.unix
Subject: Re: Milwaukee Internet connection options
Date: 28 Dec 1992 14:31:27 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: wi
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

So...what does UWM pay per month/year for free Internet access for the
entire student body?

- Alan

-- 
 ______________/ Alan S. Olson  Swanson Environmental, Inc. \_________________
/     e-mail to alanchem@csd4.csd.uwm.edu  OR  alan@alchemy.chem.uwm.edu      \
|          Want some good music?  Check out Milwaukee's own BoDeans           |
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From: eli@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Elihu Lubkin)
Newsgroups: milw.general
Subject: Bearberry; Elderberry
Date: 25 Dec 1992 04:27:27 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

      I am posting for a friend who has a kidney stone that is causing
   enough trouble that she may need surgery soon.  She has heard that
   in some cultures a folk remedy of bearberry or elderberry juice is
   used to dissolve the stones, and she'd like to try this if she can
   find these things in the area: she'll even drive down to Chicago.
   Does anyone know of a source for extracts of these berries?
                        thelma

 
Xref: sparky milw.general:398 milw.unix:56
From: dave@opus.csd.uwm.edu (Dave Rasmussen)
Newsgroups: milw.general,milw.unix
Subject: Re: Milwaukee Internet connection options
Date: 29 Dec 1992 16:52:21 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: wi
Reply-To: dave@opus.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.40
Originator: dave@opus.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Dec28.185732.1976@mixcom.com>, by Dean.Roth <Dean.Roth@mixcom.mixcom.com>:
> 
> If one is willing to share access via a BBS, service 
> may be available starting sometime in March. This would not be
> IP service to your computer, but a BBS account.
> 
> Dean

I was talking about this with a friend who used to live here and has
since moved to the SanFrancisco Bay area and helps run a public access
internet site. Out there, anyone who wants an internet account can get
access just about anywhere. There are lots of competing commercial
services and various degrees of public access sites, and this helps to
keep the costs to consumers down, to where sites like his don't charge
but just accept donations of hardware or money.

We got to talking about WiscNet charges, and thought that if a business
like MIX could start off with enough users and maybe some corporate
sponsors, to break even on a highspeed line to say, somewhere in
chicago, bypassing WiscNet, and if word got out that this was a really
cool service, you could actually have a profitable business for
yourself. Mix could then look into offering slip access or whatever
else users would be willing to pay for locally.

#include <std/disclaimer.h>
I am not speaking for or against Wiscnet, and not as a
representative of CSD in this discussion. I am just sharing
some casual personal conversations of interest related to this thread.

-- 
Dave Rasmussen - SysAdm/Hacker/Consulting Manager, UWM Computing Svcs Div.
Internet:dave@uwm.edu, Uucp:uwm!dave, Bitnet:dave%uwm.edu@INTERBIT
AT&T:414-229-5133 USmail:Box 413 EMS380,Milwaukee,WI 53201  HAM: N9REJ       

Xref: sparky milw.general:390 general:395 wi.forsale:488 uwisc.forsale:127 chi.forsale:1976
From: homi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Time for the Beast, to feast)
Newsgroups: milw.general,general,wi.forsale,uwisc.forsale,chi.forsale
Subject: 286 Computer, will accept any "REAL" offer
Date: 28 Dec 1992 05:57:37 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: milw
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: homi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

For sale: IBM 286 16Mz System

What it has:
	3.5 1.44MB floppy
	5.25 1.2MB floppy
	Vga card
	Vga monitor
	2 megs of ram
	A full size desktop case
	200 watt power supply
	1 parallel/ 2 serial ports
	a Ide floppy/hd controller
	all manuals included.
	Keyboard

What it doesn't have:
	An IDE Hard Drive.
	Which can be purchased from $120+ new, depending on Hard Drive size.

Why selling:
	Needed a 486 machine due to work.  at about the same time the older
	Hard drive failed, so I upgraded.
	I had the system checked out at a local store, every thing else works
	fine, even the controller, because we tried a new IDE on it.

This is probably most many of you will need as far as computers go, it has
enough power to run all programs at a decent speed, so If you are looking 
for a learning, starter, game, or basic system this system should do.  If
you are interested please leave me email at:

homi@csd4.csd.uw,.edu, will consider dropping off the system.

Thanks in advance.

A
From: C.Freeman <C.Freeman@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Chicagoan seeking Dump Truck, reasonable.
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: wi
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:55:03 GMT

Hi:

I am posting this for a friend in Chicago, please respond directly to him.

He is looking for a one - five ton dump truck for about $1000.00 or there
abouts. He is willing to travel to the milwaukee area to buy, if the deal is
right.

The truck need not be pretty, but it must be sound and road worthy, and the
dump hydrolics must be in good working order and it must have its tailgate. 

Please e-mail directly to  wdp@gagme.chi.il.us the fellows name is Bill
Pfeiffer.  He informs me that he is ready to buy right now.

If you have anything that he might be interested in, send him a note.

Please do not reply to this article directly, as I have nothing to do with
this transaction other than to assist by posting locally here in the milwaukee
area.

Thanks


-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   |  |   -=*=- LOVE CAN BUILD A BRIDGE, BETWEEN YOUR HEART AND MINE -=*=-
 \ !!!!              -=*=- C.Freeman@mixcom.com (Cindy) -=*=-
  (####)        From the place where music is SEEN as well as HEARD
   LOVE      -=*=- Singing, Strumming, Scribing and Signing -=*=-
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: ddean@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dorothy Dean)
Newsgroups: milw.general
Subject: Re: Bearberry; Elderberry
Date: 28 Dec 1992 00:25:32 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: ddean@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: ddean@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1he2jfINNm6l@uwm.edu>, by eli@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Elihu Lubkin):
>    Does anyone know of a source for extracts of these berries?
>                         thelma
Thelma, have you tried Outpost?  If they don't carry it they should know
someone with homopathic training who can locate the extracts.
Dorothy
BTW--long time since we've gotten together.  Don is working at MATA 2nd
shift.  I'm still in the same place.  Take care.
Newsgroups: milw.general,milw.unix
From: Dean.Roth <Dean.Roth@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Milwaukee Internet connection options
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: wi
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:57:32 GMT

In <1hn1stINNii2@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar) writes:

>jtk@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Joe Klein) writes:
>[...]
>>This subject keeps comming up now and then, wish we could come up with
>>a workable answer. 

There *are* ways to connect to the Internet in Milwaukee.
The options available today require you to have an IP link
to your computer. No BBS (that I know about) is providing 
real-time Internet service at this time.
You just have to be able to pay the price for your own IP link,
as well as have the knowledge to install it and maintain it.
Two options available today: SprintLink, WiscNet

The *real* question is, what do you want to pay?

I've spoken with two commercial organizations, one in Milwaukee 
and one in Michigan. Both are looking at providing 14.4K SLIP/PPP
service in Milwaukee. The estimated cost would be about $200/month.
This would be for a dedicated telephone number and a std. voice
grade line.

56K service through anybody, even a WiscNet back door, jumps to
about $1000/month for tele line alone.

I do not know of anyone planning to provide on-demand, dial-up,
shared line service. If a dedicated port costs $200/month,
a shared port could be provided at about $30/month for about
3 hours per day on-line time.

Getting a real-time link to the Internet is only part of the puzzle.
You will need an official IP address.
If your computer will not be online 100% of the time, you will
need another organization's computer to serve as a mail server.
If you want Usenet data, you will need to contract for that (there
may or maynot be a fee).

The last word I have about WiscNet is that WiscNet is allowing
member organizations to provide low speed links (a "back door").
The price I was given is about $2700 annually.

I don't understand all of the terminology in the SprintLink info
that was emailed to me. If I am guessing correctly, a 14.4K link
costs about $1100 a month. A T1 is over $3K.

There are other dial-up IP options, but all that I know about require
a long distance call. Therefore I won't discuss those.

If one is willing to share access via a BBS, service 
may be available starting sometime in March. This would not be
IP service to your computer, but a BBS account.

Dean
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From: rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar)
Newsgroups: milw.general,milw.unix
Subject: Re: Milwaukee Internet connection options
Date: 28 Dec 1992 14:10:37 GMT
Organization: Just me.
Distribution: wi
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33
Summary: There's GOTTA be a way!

jtk@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Joe Klein) writes:
[...]
>This subject keeps comming up now and then, wish we could come up with
>a workable answer. 
>
>WiscNet more or less put the plug in all the back-doors to the Internet.

There's *GOT* to be a way...   What's WiscNet got that no one else has?
What *media* are they using?  Are they maintaining their own connections?
Microwave?  Sattellite(sp?)?

At how many points, and where, does WiscNet connect to the outside world?
Are there some "central" or "hub"-like points in the Internet to which one
*should* connect...  Where can I get a 'map' of the Internet? (NOT UUCPNet)

Rick Miller   <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>   Ricxjo Muelisto
Occupation:  Husband, Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus Sys0p, and  Linux fan
Xref: sparky milw.general:397 milw.unix:55
From: marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Marc Rassbach)
Newsgroups: milw.general,milw.unix
Subject: Re: Milwaukee Internet connection options
Date: 29 Dec 1992 13:33:45 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Distribution: wi
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

In article <1hn1stINNii2@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar) writes:
>jtk@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Joe Klein) writes:
>[...]
>>This subject keeps comming up now and then, wish we could come up with
>>a workable answer. 
>>
>>WiscNet more or less put the plug in all the back-doors to the Internet.
>
>There's *GOT* to be a way...   What's WiscNet got that no one else has?

WiscNet has $$$$.  Our $$$$.  No single individual has the $50k to buy
the routing toys to distribute an internet feed in Milw, nor do they have the
$30k to buy one year of connect time with (name net.service of your choice)

The second thing 'we' are 'fighting' is this (silly|stupid|naieve|correct)   
idea that information should be free, or at least accessable.  And at $2k
a month, (or whatever) doesn't qualify as accessable.  

-- 
Marc Rassbach    marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu    If you take my advice, that
MS-DOS - it's not   marc@milestn.mil.wi.us    is your problem, not mine!
my problem!     If it was said on UseNet, it must be true.
   Unix - It's a nice place to live, but you don't want to visit there.
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From: jtk@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Joe Klein)
Newsgroups: milw.general,milw.unix
Subject: Re: Milwaukee Internet connection options
Date: 28 Dec 1992 09:24:54 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Distribution: wi
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

In article <1992Dec16.195703.3561@mixcom.com> Dean.Roth <Dean.Roth@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>In <BzCKMp.uw@solaria.mil.wi.us> jgreco@solaria.mil.wi.us (Joe Greco) writes:
>
...
>data transfer (file or mail) to another company, either in the U.S. 
>or elsewhere in the world, to remain competitive. These businesses 
>cannot afford $1000 - $2000/month fee for a simple 14.4K SLIP link
>that most commercial providers want (usually $250/month plus a long
>distance telephone call) however, and would prefer to acquire the 
>service locally. (Or do not want to manage a computer and networking
>software themselves but want to pay someone else a fee to do that,
>and to use a BBS type of service.) There are probably several businesses.
>
>One option would be for interested parties to form an organzation
>that gets a 56K or T1 line and then divides that up into dedicated
>and on-demand dial-up IP service at 14.4K or 56K. Startup cost would
>be $50-$100K, with monthly operating costs probably near $1500-$2000,
>which does not consider any salaries or taxes that come with employees.
>Anyone interested? Anyone win the lottery recently?
>
>Dean

When I win I'll let you use my connection ... :-)

This subject keeps comming up now and then, wish we could come up with
a workable answer. 

WiscNet more or less put the plug in all the back-doors to the Internet.

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Newsgroups: milw.general
From: tstinson@world.std.com (Thomas Stinson)
Subject: PC user groups in Milwaukee
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usaetate
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:00:35 GMT

My brother, who lives outside Milwaukee, is planning to buy
a PC.  I have suggested that he get in touch with the local
PCUG before doing this.   Can anyone give me the name,address
and phone no of the local PCUG or computer enthusiast's group.
Please reply by e-mail to tstinson@world.std.com.  Thanks.
 
Tom Stinson


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