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From: hanners@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Hanners)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: snow goose
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:02:15 GMT
Reply-To: hanners@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Robert Hanners)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Annapolis, MD

In rec.boats, walter@watson.ibm.com (Walter Wilson) writes:
>
>But seriously folks, in my 30 years of driving a
>car, I have NEVER run out of gas. If I were to drive
>a powerboat, I would never run out of gas there, either.
>Why would you?
>
Well... Guess our life priorities are not precisely identical.  I would
guess I've run out of gas on the road three or four times in 35 years;
once in a powerboat, once with my Perkins powered sloop (bummer), and
just a week ago in my 3 1/2 hp dink-- doffed my shirt and *sailed* 'bout
a mile back to my anchored sloop.  Or perhaps its in the genes-- my
daughter's run out of gas three times in but five years driving.  :-)
Obviously, where you're motoring and the conditions have a big influence
on the urgency of sufficient fuel.

-- Bob

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Robert J. Hanners         "My comments; only mine."          *DIASTOLE* 676673
CD, NSWC, Annapolis, MD                              hanners@oasys.dt.navy.mil
From: dudley@treefort.Corp.Sun.COM (Dudley Gaman)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Flares (was: Re: snow goose)
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:53:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Invictus
NNTP-Posting-Host: treefort.corp.sun.com

In article <118@cherise.UUCP> bobp@sandr.com (Robert Parkinson) writes:
>
>So, what's the best flare?
>
I can't answer your question, but I can relate a potentially very serious
problem I recently had with a flare.  I was out sailing with my kids and
a couple of friends from work, 5 people aboard my boat, when we heard a
Mayday call on the radio.  We listened for a while before determining that
the call had come from about 20 miles away and that someone was on the way
to their aid.  My son's curiosity about emergency situations was aroused and
the topic soon got around to flares.  I have a flare gun kit (one of those
orange plastic guns in a 6-or-8 inch diameter plastic tube container) which 
I'd never used.  So that my son would know how to use the gun if there was
ever a need, I showed him the correct procedure as described in the manual.
I happened to use an outdated flare (the instructions say they are good for
three years after the expiration date - this one was about 5 years out of
date) as I didn't want to use one of the new ones I had just purchased.  I
placed the flare into the barrel and closed the gun...BOOM!  The gun went
off!  Fortunately, I was practicing safe gun handling techniques and the
gun was pointed away from anyone.  I consider myself VERY lucky not to have
hit someone of something.

So, my questions are:

  1) Is a 5-year out-of-date flare likely to be unstable?

  2) Would one expect a flare gun to go off simply by closing it quickly?

PLEASE BE CAREFUL WITH FLARES!!!!

Dudley Gaman
Invictus
Pete's Harbor
Redwood CIty, CA
.
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From: fletch@spf.trw.com (Fletcher Riggs)
Subject: Re: Isolating switches & engines
Organization: TRW Data Systems Center, Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:22:19 GMT

In article <15AUG199200215620@reg.triumf.ca> advax@reg.triumf.ca (A.Daviel) writes:
>A few weeks ago I went out with 4 kids aged 2 - 4, plus parents. At some point 
>the extractor fan suddenly speeded up. The battery isolator switch was found
>to be at OFF; I strongly suspect one of the kids moved it. This little prank 
>blew up a capacitor in my VHF, cooked another couple, blew the fuse 
>(fortunately), and also blew the fuse in a depthsounder. I happened to 
>have an obsolete but working radio & depthsounder on board. A subsequent 
>experiment revealed that the nominal +12 supply went to about +20V and the 
>engine continued to run happily. The radio used 16V capacitors. My old Seafarer 
>MHD log was unaffected, as was my Loran. I *think* the Loran was turned on.
>After replacing fuses and capacitors both casualties are back in action.


I had been led to believe that under these circumstances
(disconnecting alternator from battery while the engine is
running) the charging system (alternator/regulator) would be
damaged.  I guess this is not always the case.



-- 
fletch@spf.trw.com
From: bloxham@geophysics.harvard.edu (Jeremy Bloxham)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: marine heads - advice/recommendations wanted
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:24:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Aug20.182404.17592
Reply-To: bloxham@geophysics.harvard.edu
Organization: Dept. of Earth & Planetary Sciences, Harvard University

This discussion reminds me all too well of a recent experience.  During
the Corinthian 200 in early July (a nominally 200 mile race from
Marblehead to Maine and back) the worst happened - yes, our head got
blocked. (I think someone tried flushing it while the inlet was above
water  on port tack.) So it fell to me to disassemble it to free
the blockage. Ugh.  Not a very pleasant way to spend an hour. In future,
our recipe for chilli con carne (the previous night's supper) will have
fewer beans!

For head maintenance, I've found that half a cup of cooking oil flushed
through once or twice a season normally keeps it running quite
smoothly.

Jeremy
From: jkim@jingoro.sun.com ()
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Where to buy small sailboats
Date: 18 Aug 1992 18:43:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: ca
Reply-To: jkim@jingoro.sun.com ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: jingoro

I'm new to this group and sailing, and I was hoping
to find out some stuff which was of interest to me...

Where can I purchase small sailboats (approx 14'... e.g. puffers,
lasers, lidos, etc)  in the SF bay area?  Where do I look
to find  info on new/used boats on sale?

Secondly, is there a FAQ list I can get my hands on somewhere?

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

--
Jun Kim                                         jkim@jingoro.Eng.Sun.Com
Sun Microsystems
Mountain View, CA                               "Oboete imasu ka..."
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Subject: 5hp vs 8hp; and the winner is...
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:44:59 GMT

I recently posted asking whether I should get a 5 or 8 hp Honda outboard
for my Freedom 21. Briefly, the 5 is a single ohv with a transistorized
ignition system, and weighs about 60lbs. The 8 is a twin ohc with CDI
ignition and weighs 80lbs. I received several very thoughtful anecdotal
notes (the best! who cares about absolutes...) and they should probably
have been publicly posted. To my surprise the majority were in favor of
the 5, citing weight, simplicity and cost. An exception was a Scot who
sails in the Firth of Forth, which opens out into the North Sea. He said 
that he and most of those he saw around him favored more powerful motors.

In the end I decided on the 5 -- and bought the 8! Gene O'Riley at Voyager
marine in Alviso made me an offer i could not refuse -- an 8 for $48 more.
What hurt the 5 was the extra cost for an alternator ($280+) and extra
for the long shaft and flatter preopellor. The 8 will put out 5 rather 
than 3 amps (hopefully regulated), and i believe it will be smoother. 

We are hauling FELIX this evening, and will have a busy week-end doing
what has to be done with a second-hand boat.

Gybe Ho!

Francis Muir
PEEP & FELIX
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: tsai@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Jeffrey C. Tsai)
Subject: Re: QE II Grounding
Summary: Uncharted bathymetry
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:01:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.150819.1737@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu>, whoward@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (Will Howard) writes:
> In article <moseley.52.713751556@u.washington.edu> moseley@u.washington.edu
> (Steve L. Moseley) writes:
> >Does the QEII have a depth sounder? This might sound like a stupid question, 
> >but a few weeks ago I had the opportunity to be in the wheelhouse of one of 
> >the Washington State Ferries (the Sealth, I think) for the entire Bremerton-
> >Seattle run. I didn't see a depth sounder and asked the captain about it. 
> >His reply was that the ferries don't have depth sounders since the captains 
> >were required to know the depths in the area! I can't count the number of 
> >times my depth sounder has kept me out of trouble.
> >
> A depth sounder helps, especially in a gradually sloping bottom, but it won't
> "see" an isolated rock coming up to 30 feet in the midst of mostly 40-foot
> depths. Plus the ship was moving at about 24 knots. By the time an obstruction
> like what the QEII hit showed up as sounder return, it would been too late to
> do anything about it - it was already under the hull (unless the ship had some
> kind of forward-looking sonar transducers).
> 

A professor of mine in graduate school Dr. I.J. Won (a graduate from
Columbia University, do you know him Mr. Howard) invented a device
able to map bathymetry (ocean topology) using EM waves for the Navy.
Believe or not, Navy still having problem with submarine bump into
uncharted sea mount.

This "bird" he calls can be towed by a helicopter traveling at high
speed and record induced EM field.  The processed digital data reveals
the bathymetry of the ocean floor.

Is the resaon USCG some time not having very accurate chart beause
of the cost involved in depth sounding by boat?  If it is, this
"bird" should be cheaper and quicker getting results.

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From: wbrs@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (WBRS-FM 100.1, Waltham MA USA)
Subject: ACE?
Reply-To: wbrs@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:25:22 GMT

What is ACE- how can I get it?  
		-KT
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:55:08 EDT
From: <JXO8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Fiesta Texas

Thanks to all who have responded.  Your help and comments have
caused my kids and I to skip an extra day on the beach in Corpus
to go to the park.  Now on to the fun....thanks again.
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: wjf@controls.ccd.harris.com (Bill Figie)
Subject: Re: Any good roller-coasters around Minneapolis?
Originator: wjf@rs2
Organization: Harris Controls
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:29:44 GMT


While it is try that Camp Snoopy in Mall of America is disigned for kids and that
is the reason the rides are kind of tame, I personally think they missed the mark
by only going for a kids park.  Take a look around you the next time you are at a
mall and notice that most of the people there, spending money, are young adults
(14 to 24 year olds).  You could make a point that if you have a park that
attracts those type age group that you cut down on the shopping.  I contend that
if you attract those people, they will visit other areas of the mall and spend
money.  West Edmonton Mall has a fantastic thrill park with some of the best,
most thrilling rides in Canada.  Perhaps, MofA will change as time goes on.  Look
at the way theme parks have changed.  At one time putting in a roller coaster in
the theme park was considered stupid.  Then the thinking went, you only need one
wood coaster in a park.  Now most parks of any stature have several wood coasters
and several steel loopers along with mine trains and the likes.

By the way, as far as coasters go in the Minnesota area goes I can name two that
I think are pretty good.  One I have ridden, the High Roller, at Valleyfair is a
pretty good wood coaster, all be it short and not too tall.  I enjoyed the nice
negative G's it gave.  The second, one I have never ridden but have heard from
many respective coaster enthusiasts that is a very good coaster, is the Big
Coaster (please excuse me if it is wrong name), at Arnolds Park in Iowa.  It
looks like a very good coaster and is forgotten by most people (even
enthusiasts).

			Bill "I'll take the Big Coaster any day" Figie
From: mikeg@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM (Mike Galat)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Any good roller-coasters around Minneapolis?
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:15:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Unisys GLRS - Detroit, Michigan

I aggree that Camp Snoopy is a kiddie park.  However, at $2.50 a crack to 
ride the coaster (I put four of us on it for $10! :-( ), they must
be catering to a bit more affluent kids/parents than normally found
in a mall!

Mike soon-to-be-a-Minnesotan G.

-- 
* Personal opinions only! this article does not officially represent Unisys! *
| Mike Galat, Blue skies & 73's       | mikeg@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com   |
| PP ASEL; C-20353; S/L JM; KB8EOD    |                                      |
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From: scott@svl.cdc.com (Scott Gerken)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: The SFGAm --> SFGAd connection
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:17:52 GMT

buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com writes:

>MY QUESTION -- Is this a trend I see with Six Flags??  Is the
>BATMAN ride going in next year at SFGAd going to be an exact
>track layout of the ride in IL?  Will a 3rd clone appear at
>SFMM in 1994??


>What do others think?

If as stated from several sources are true that Great America, 
Santa Clara is getting a unthemed version of Batman next year
I'd be surprised if Magic Mountain gets a themed one in 1994.
I say this because even though they are 450+ miles apart I would
think that they would be to close together for identical rides.
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: grimmy@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (mike.procopio)
Subject: Great Adventure Dates
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: nj
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:02:39 GMT

A couple people at work and myself were wondering what the operating times and
dates are for Six Flags Great Adventure.  In particular, does anyone know when
the last date the park is open for the season is?

Thanks!

Mike
-- 
| ``Buster, it may come as a complete surprise to
| you to find that *this* is an animated cartoon.''  - DAFFY DUCK
|
| All opinions belong to Mike Procopio (procopio @ att.com). Not my employers.
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: The SFGAm --> SFGAd connection
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:35:53 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

The following are just some random thoughts running
through my head ... feel free to add comments, etc.

SFGAm in Gurnee, IL, broke into a new world of Mega-Steel
coasters in 1988 when they contracted with Arrow Dynamics 
to build the awe-inspiring, 176', 7-looping SHOCKWAVE steel 
coaster.  One year later, SFGAd in Jackson, NJ gets a
duplicate of this ground-breaking design, called the Great
American Scream Machine.  The GASM is a slightly larger model,
standing 178', and with some "kinks" of the original design
worked out of it (smoother transistions, wider corners, etc.).
The following year (1990), SFMM installs yet a LARGER version
of the Arrow 7-looper, coming in this time at 188' tall.

Switch to 1992 -- SFGAm installs a revolutionary prototype
coaster from Bollinger & Mabillard ... a 5-looping Inverted
coaster called BATMAN -- THE RIDE.  SFGAd comes around in 
the later half of 1992 to announce it will be getting a BATMAN
ride in 1993...

MY QUESTION -- Is this a trend I see with Six Flags??  Is the
BATMAN ride going in next year at SFGAd going to be an exact
track layout of the ride in IL?  Will a 3rd clone appear at
SFMM in 1994??


What do others think?
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: csr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher S. Redding)
Subject: Re: Bungee (Bunji?) Jumping at Geauga Lake
Reply-To: csr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher S. Redding)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 04:04:52 GMT


In a previous article, mapike@sei.cmu.edu (Mary Ann Pike) says:

>However you spell it...
>
>For those who are interested in it, I heard a short piece on the radio
>news that Geauga Lake would be getting bungee jumping. Unfortunately,
>that's all I heard, and since we've had a newspaper strike for 3 months
>here, it's been a little hard to get any in-depth or follow-up information
>about anything you hear on the radio or tv.

	Yes, it is there! And it's free, with the price of admission!!!
There is a catch. Since it is free, they can only accomodate so many people
in one day, so you may not get to try it. Also, if you go early in the
morning and pay the $15.00 or whatever it costs to get in, that may be the
only ride you get to go on, if your lucky. Besides, how safe can a bungee
jump be that is only $15.00? Sounds risky to me.
				-Chris
-- 
"You don't know what you're missing until you don't have it anymore."
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Any good roller-coasters around Minneapolis?
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:24:58 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

>Yes, there is a coaster there.  I forget the name, but it's quite boring.  It
>has a TOTAL vertical drop of about 50 feet and I doubt any section of it has
>a drop > 30 degrees.  You go up, slowly ride around the inside of mall and
>then it's over.  They don't take you to the ceiling and drop you down to the
>floor then into some loops.  It has polyeurethane wheels and is very quiet.
>Paul Bunyans Log Ride looks quite a bit more fun.  At least it drops you
>more than 20 feet at a time.
>
>The mall is big enough to hold Batman The Ride, too.  Oh well.

You're ALL missing the point!!!

While MoA is big enough to hold a major ride, like a B&M Inverted
Looper, or an Arrow Multi-Element, that will never happen, as the
amusement park in the MoA is a KIDDIE PARK!!!  The ride is mild 
because it was designed with Children in mind (as was the rest of
the park).  I mean, c'mon people, put it into perspective here!!

You sound like the kind of person who compares a Vekoma ROLLER
SKATER coaster to an Arrow something-or-other!


B.
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: mapike@sei.cmu.edu (Mary Ann Pike)
Subject: Bungee (Bunji?) Jumping at Geauga Lake
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:04:25 GMT

However you spell it...

For those who are interested in it, I heard a short piece on the radio
news that Geauga Lake would be getting bungee jumping. Unfortunately,
that's all I heard, and since we've had a newspaper strike for 3 months
here, it's been a little hard to get any in-depth or follow-up information
about anything you hear on the radio or tv.

So, I don't know if it's coming soon or planned for the future...you could
probably call the park and ask.

Mary Ann Pike   (mapike@sei.cmu.edu)    
Software Engineering Institute          
Carnegie-Mellon University              
Pittsburgh PA
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:46:05 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Sheila Wallace writes:

>Once you get to Cedar Point, you could also take Greyhound to Kings Island, 
>about 2-3 hours south of Cedar Point. This would cover two of the best 
>parks in the U.S.


Well, it would certainly cover two of the BIGGEST park in the USA,
but arguably, two of the "BEST" parks in the USA.


Buck, who doesn't have CP *or* KI in his personal Top 20 Favorite Park 
list
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: sharonc@meaddata.com (Sharon Crichton)
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:37:59 GMT
Reply-To: sharonc@meaddata.com

In article <2A92895E.15B@deneva.sdd.trw.com>, shla@spf.trw.com (Sheila Wallace) writes:
|> Once you get to Cedar Point, you could also take Greyhound to Kings Island, 
|> about 2-3 hours south of Cedar Point. This would cover two of the best 
|> parks in the U.S.

Just one word of warning - it will take much longer than 2-3 hours to get from
Sandusky, OH to Kings Mills, OH, especially by Greyhound. It took me 3.25 hours
just to get from my place in Centerville (the one south of Dayton) to Norwalk
to meet my family at the motel. Norwalk is 30 minutes south of Sandusky, and
I'm about 30 minutes north of Kings Mills/Cincinnati. And by Greyhound, they
might route you back through Cleveland first, then to Columbus, then to Cinci,
then up to Kings Mills. That is, if Greyhound even has a stop in Kings Mills
or Mason. And if it stops in Mason, you'll have to take a 10-15 minute cab ride
to the park.

But if you're REALLY SERIOUS, it might be worth a day of travelling to get from
one park to the other. I love the Beast, especially on the first ride of the
day.

Followups to alt.greyhound.routes.from.hell :-)

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From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: AT THE PARK Magazine
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:24:50 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Another great magazine (in addition to RollerCoaster!) worth note 
to amusement park buffs is "At The Park".  At-The-Park mag is
published by Yellow Dot Publishing, and is by-and-large the 
brainstorm of (long time ACE corportate member) Allen Ambrosini.  
This mag is moreso a journal for the amusement park industry
than the average coaster enuthisiast, however, the magazine is TOP
NOTCH is design and format (contains excellent 4-color photographs 
of today's top coasters, parks, and attractions!), with very well 
written articles, and a sensible, enjoyable layout.  You'll learn 
much more about the industry as a whole (like the shifting trends in
Roller Coasters, or a company spotlight on Sellner, the co. which
manufactures Tilt-A-Whirl rides).  I, personally, highly recommend 
it as an addition to ACE News or Inside Track.

At-The-Park mag is published 5 times per year.  My new issue just
came in the mail yesterday, and features the RATTLER (Fiesta TX)
on the cover, as well as an interview with designer John F.
Pierce.  There's a picture in there of our very own Rendell H.
Bird riding said coaster!!  8^)  Also included is the brand new
BHS/Anton Schwarzkopf coaster which opened this year in Japan.  
This thing looks sick ... Waaaaaa, I wanna ride it!!!

Subscription rates are the following -- $17.95 (airmail -- $27.95) 
for USA-based subscriptions, $25.95 (airmail -- $30.95) for Canada
and Mexico-based subscriptions, and anything outside of North
America, $25.95 (airmail -- $54.95).


At The Park Magazine
P.O. BOX  597783
Chicago, IL  60659-7783
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