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From: oester@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Bob Oesterlin)
Subject: New DBS venture in the works?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:11:46 GMT
Reply-To: oester@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester Mn

In the 9/20 issue of Satellite TV week, there is an article about a new
DBS venture that is going to be targeted at providing cable service to rural
customers. Also, in the last issue of my REC newsletter (People's Co-op Power,
a Southeeastern Minnesota Co-op) They're aksing for  "straw poll" of thier
customers who might be interested in such a service. The details are sketchy,
but they do mention a late 93 or early 94 time frame. The system would use an
18" dish and cost about $700 plus $20-$30 per/month. Provides cable and PPV
Movies.

This would seem to require a (as Sat TV Week says) 120W Ku bird. The only one
I know of is T403, which has a 1995 launch. 

Anyone have any idea what's going on here?

Bob

PS: I'll keep my 10' dish, thank you!

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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:43:59 MEZ
From:         "(Wolfgang R. Schulz)" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      Re: Questions about DERRICK and DER FAHNDER
              Oct 5, 92 9:14 am

Although I do work for German Television (NDR/ARD), I cant give the
answers just from my memory. Only these facts so far: DERRICK is still
beeing produced, although they run episodes from "last century or so"
late at night. The detective (Derrick) turned old with the series.
It's more or less an old habit to sit down and watch it, because
the expectations are still high from the old days. But then, it's
boring like hell. Dialogs from Kindergarden. Stories as well. Derrick
are ZDF productions.

Der FAHNDER has recently experienced a revival and several new episodes
are produces and aired right now. ARD network has them made for framing
the commercial time between 17.25 and 19.58, with a bundle of commercials
before, half way and after.

I have to think where I could inquire about the time both series ran
first. I'll watch out here for possible other poster's knowledge though...

Wolfgang


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From: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re:      Scrambling s_ucks!
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:15:30 GMT
Reply-To: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <920925.131925.CST.ELIZONDO@VMTECSLP>,         "Juan R. Elizondo A." <ELIZONDO@VMTECSLP.BITNET> writes:
|> ======================================================================== 22
|> Date:         Fri, 25 Sep 92 12:48:16 CST
|> From:         "Juan R. Elizondo A." <ELIZONDO@VMTECSLP>
|> Subject:      Scrambling s_cks!
|> To:           Home Satellite Tecnology <HOMESAT@NDSUVM1>
|> Message-Id:   <920925.124816.CST.ELIZONDO@VMTECSLP>
|> 
|> Okay, Lets have some talk here.
|> 
|> I live in Mexico, and yes, I have a modified VCII (not because I want to, but b
|> ecause I have to). Why is it that we cant subscribe legally to programming outs
|> ide the US? I would if I could. Now HBO is gone. Of course, we have the special
|> wizard keys, but what will happen when more than six channels are gone ?
|> Further, will always be wizard keys for those subscription services ?
|> I read that comercial cable distributors didn;t want VCII+, so they were allowe
|> d to stay in VCII. That means that there will be (for many years to come) VCII
|> transmission, so the wizard keys will work. The problem is of course that no mo
|> re than 8 keys are currently for storage in the memory.
|> Another thing would be the availability of those codes. Here is fairly easy to
|> get them, but will allways be so?.
|> On the Cartoon Network, I see it. Why were you saying that it was VCII+ only ?
|> Are there any plans (from GI) to make the channels available only for VCII+ ?
|> If so, then the above may not be so true.
|> 
|> (oops, I forgot something.... sorry).
|> 
|> JR.

  Juan,
        The cable companies didn't want to buy the new VCII+ modules and GI
didn't want to eat them so for the present, there will still be a commercial
datastream that VCII boards can access. All new services will be VCII+. The
cartoon network is currently transmitting in fixed-keying mode - meaning any
VCII can decode it. When subscription services start expect VCII+ mode.

 The matter of separate commercial keys for each service is unavoidable. I believe that eventually that all services will only be available to VCII owners
via individual commercial keys. If you want to watch one not on your list, you
will have to load it in. Does anybody have access to these codes? Will they
post them? Will somebody get upset?

 Interesting questions.

Boris Volk
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:20:15 EDT
From:         "(Gary Bourgois)" <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: Northern Exposure

>Did anyone locate Northern Exposure this past weekend?  The season premiere
>was aired last night (Monday) so I assumed Universal must have uplinked
>NX this past weekend.  It was on Telstar 301 last season on Saturday morning
>at 10:00am Eastern (I don't remember which transponder).


T1/13 0400 EST.

Worth staying up for too!

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From: lyndon@unbc.edu (Lyndon Nerenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Usenet News via Satellite
Summary: Welcome to the other 95% of the world :-)
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:56:35 GMT
Organization: University of Northern B.C.

rrw@ELDEN.CSE.NAU.EDU ((Bob Wier)) writes:

>  I don't want to rain on your parade, but I simply don't think you're going
>  to make it with that kind of pricing.  Individuals (especially in a recession)
>  aren't going to go for $2K for a system which only receives data 

Maybe not individuals, but ...

>  And of course, institutions who could afford it probably already have
>  wireline access...

Typical big city attitude. Just 'cuz *you* can get a T1 line for a couple
of hundred dollars a month doesn't mean the rest of the world can. Right
now we're paying about $500/month in long distance to get a *partial*
news feed. A dedicated line would run $2K/month. I kind of *like* the
idea of spending $2K ONCE for a news feed.

Think about it. Why would all these people spend $2K for a dish receive
*only* TV system when they could spend $30/month for cable? Have you
ever tried to subscribe to cable when you live in the country?

--lyndon
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From: larson@loren.net.com (Alan Larson)
Subject: Re: Lower Degree LNBs
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:24:15 GMT

In article <9209281939@ltrnativ.UUCP> adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead) writes:
>This is probably one for the FAQ list, if it isn't there already.
>
>Right now I am using a 10 foot mesh dish with a 45 degree NorSat LNB.  From
>my DIY mount adjustment, I get very good pictures on all birds.  The
>pictures are not totally sparklie-free but close to it.
> 
>Now if I was to upgrade to a 25 degree LNB, or the 'Super Ice' if it
>really does live up to it's 19-21 degree claim, will it make that much of
>a difference?

  It only will make a difference if your total noise power is quite
low.  I have been told that many of these very low noise amps vary in
their noise level depending on the feedhorn and waveguide.  Thus, you
may not get an improvement.  Of course, you may get a better one if
your current amp is performing poorly.

  As for the last sparklies, you may want to be real certain about the
focal length position.  Often that gets neglected.

	Alan


p.s.  I tried to mail this (and an answer to your previous question),
      but you didn't have a usable email address.
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 07:39:55 CST
From:         Larry Peterson <CC38@SDSUMUS.SDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Dish Alignment

------Old Message------
Subject:      Polar Mount Adustments

I am racking my brains trying to align my polar mount correctly.  I don't want
to have to pay a dealer $125 to come out and set it up.

Does anybody out there have a sure-fire, simple polar mount alignement
procedure?

-----End Old Message-----
                                                                          --
When Even I need to set up a satellite dish.  I will normally carry a
Receiver and a TV out to the dish.  If I cannot carry a receiver out I
will have a set of Walkie Talkie's with me and have someone inside that
I can trust.

But I set the dish on the pole and set the inclination and delcination
angles.

Then I point it directly South and Normally I pick up The ANIK Satellite
and then I will move the dish West and East picking up the adjacent
satellites.   While doing this I may have to rotate the dish on the pole
to get everything in line.

At this time I can also check my Inclination angle.  If I am on a
Western Satellite and I need to push down on the dish and the signal
clears then I know that I need to rotate my dish to the East.  If
however, I have to lift up on my dish then I know I have to rotate
my dish to the west.  After each adjustment I use the dish turner to
move the dish to the East and West.

The further out towards the extreme satellites I go the Finer I tune
my arc.

This to me is the only fool Proof Method I know of.  Besides this is
the method they taught me in School!

About the only time I have had it take an extreme length of time is
when I have found some problem on my mount or that my pole is not
perfectly true!

I am sure that there are some instruments out there that will facilitate
the job,  but I have found they are too costly.  About the only thing I
would like to have is a signal strength meter.  With that I could
insure I am on the main lobe of the satellite and not on a side lobe.

That is my 2 cents worth.

Larry Peterson
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From: AllanWS@cup.portal.com (Allan BA Schlaugat)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: sci-fi commericals
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 00:59:16 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <1992Sep27.220608.18557@n8emr.cmhnet.org> <Bv9oAt.IG2@ais.org>

Come on people.. lighten up!

This weekend I had 12 people over for a Sci-Fi Channel weekend.. all Sci-Fi
Channel and lots of beer! After the 3rd showing of Star Wars and the 200th
showing of the 'Omni Magazine' commercial, we made up the Sci-Fi Channel
beer drinking game:
One sip for each commercial..
One gulp for each Sci-Fi Channel promo..
..in addition..
One shot of Schnapps for each "Omni Magazine" ad..
Two shots of Sloe Gin for each "Buns of Steel" ad
Three shots of water for each "Star Trek" record set (we all like Checkov!)
A full beer for the 1-900 ads..

If someone goes "wild" he/she will pick the next ad. If she/he was right,
he/she picked the drink and the person to receive it...
Fortunately the party broke up about 6 hours ago with minimal
brain damage.. :-) 
The 12 of us were waiting almost 2 years for the Sci-Fi Channel
so every moment was cherished; even the Infomercials at 2am! :-)

Al Schlaugat
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From: jnle@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (John N. Le)
Subject: Re: to: flash@lopez (re: the Scrounger's Guide)
Reply-To: jnl@ihlpe.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:16:06 GMT

In article <Sep.28.17.47.07.1992.1232@tastesgreat.rutgers.edu>, boubez@tastesgreat.rutgers.edu (Toufic Boubez) writes:
> Hi there. I tried emailing you, but the mail bouced. Anyway, this might be
> of general interest, so I figured I'd post. In the FAQ article (pretty
> good, thaks!), you mention an artilce that you wrote, entitled the
> Scrouger's Guide. Could I please get a copy? Thanks.
> 
> toufic
>             R 2 4      Toufic Boubez
>             |_|_|      boubez@cesl.rutgers.edu
>             | | |      Computational Engineering Systems Lab
>             1 3 5      CAIP Center, Rutgers University, NJ


ME TOO :))  My mail to FLASH also bounced so ... please send me one too.
Thanks.
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: $$$$ for taping Simpsons
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:59:48 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <4181@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<In article <DOCONNOR.92Sep29084310@potato.sedona.intel.com> doconnor@sedona.intel.com (Dennis O'Connor) writes:
<<
<<g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
<<] 1) I will offer $$$$ to anyone willing to tape future Simpsons episodes
<<]    for me, 
<<
<<Do we really need to keep telling people that this is a crime in the 
<<US and most other countries? Worse, conspiring to do it will get you
<<a felony conspiracy conviction in the US.
<<
<<Don't do it folks. A felony conviction will ruin your life. And
<<USENET _is_ known to be read by government employees.
<
<I can guarantee that the FBI is going to come after the person taping the
<program and selling it to cover costs to the other person.  No one, and I
<mean no one, has ever gone to jail for doing that.
<
<Just like no consumer has been charged for having a modified VCII and there
<are THOUSANDS of those units out there.

Sorry, slip of the fingers, the first line of my response should be:

I can guarantee that the FBI is NOT going to come after the person taping the


Black market tapes have been around for a long, long time.
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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: Interference from adjacent sats
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 16:06:41 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: na

In article <1992Oct6.062816.2918@julian.uwo.ca> mann@csd.uwo.ca (Robert Mann) writes:
>I have noticed on my system that sometimes channels from adjacent satellites
>interfere with each other.  For example G5 t20 interferes with T3 t21.  My
>guess is that the feedhorn isn't at the correct focal depth.  Before I dig
>out the scaffold, is this the probable cause?  Someone mentioned in a previous

You are seeing the problems caused by a small dish and the FCC's 2 degree
spacing rule.  

As I understand it, a smaller dish can see more of the sky, therefore
interference between 2 closely spaced satellites can be seen.  I have a
very slight problem with a 10 foot dish (When I am on G6, I can see
very faint images of PBS on S4).  If I had a 16 foot dish, I bet I
would have no problems.

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu

>post that their feedhorn wasn't properly alligned and Ku and C band sats at
>the same orbital location weren't at the same location on their receiver.  I
>also have this occurance.  Is this another symptom of a misaligned feedhorn?
>Thanks.
>
>Rob
>
From: gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard J. Gaylord)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: wildfeed schedule
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:43:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvpID6.CBw
Organization: University of Illinois
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Re: wildfeed schedule
 i'm happy to have robert smathers keep the list . can you (question to
r. smathers) post the list soon? i haven't seen a listing in some time.
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From: andre@king.slc.mentorg.com (Andre' Hut)
Subject: Re: South Scanner Satellite Services Chart vol 1 num 7 (LONG) 1/4
Organization: /net/king/usr1/andre/.organization
Distribution: na
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:55:29


The listing for the Sci Fi Channel (G5-4) seems to be in error.  It states
that the freq. for the stereo audio is 5.58/5.80.  Having tried that a few
hours ago, I found that 5.58/5.78 works a little better.  
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From: pimentel@earrth.enet.dec.com (John Pimentel)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Now that congress has overridden the veto on the Cable Bill
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:37:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Yesterday, Congress did what Congress does best, passing a great bill with
a minor annoying problem that is vetoed and then they override that veto.

So with that in mind beyond getting a satellite dish what are the costs for
services, maintenance, publications involved, etc?

Email prefered, but general post if more are interested or I'll summerize
if there is a lot of me toos in my "in-box"

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The opinions expressed are my own.  No rights are granted to take them out of
context nor do they represent the views of my employer, whomever it might be
for the moment.
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From: MDuPree@world.std.com (Micky DuPree)
Subject: Questions about DERRICK and DER FAHNDER
Summary: American seeks info re German detective series
Keywords: Derrick, Der Fahnder
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:14:29 GMT

Can anyone answer some basic questions about two television police
dramas from Germany, "Derrick" and "Der Fahnder"?

1. During which years were they originally broadcast?

    I have been told that "Derrick" has been in production from the
    1970s through to today, and that "Der Fahnder" was a short-lived
    series of the mid-1980s, but confirmation and more precision
    would be appreciated.

2. Approximately how many episodes are there of each?  Alternatively,
approximately how many episodes were made of each series during an
average year of production?

3. What were the popular and critical reactions to each?

    I've seen a few episodes of each (subtitled in English by
    Australia's SBS channel).  I thought well of "Der Fahnder":
    mature, realistic, and occasionally humorous.  I was not so
    impressed with "Derrick": condescending, paternalistic, and a
    bit artless.

I'm asking primarily on behalf of an American professor of literature
and media studies at a university.  He works both in so-called "high
art" and popular culture, and he has a particular interest in the
detective genre.  Having done extensive research on American TV
detective series, he now wants to gather knowledge of detective series
from other countries, and he has asked my help for that.

These may seem strange questions for rec.arts.satellite, but my
proficiency at the German language is regrettably poor, and I thought
that here I would have the best chance of finding Germans who were both
proficient at English and interested in television.

Thanks for any and all assistance.

-Micky
From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: FREE Usenet via satellite to continue
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:30:26 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <CHARLES.92Sep30141112@netcom.netcom.com> charles@netcom.netcom.com (Charles R. Hoynowski) writes:
>
>I'm a tad bit confused about how one goes about interfacing their modem
>to their satellite receiver.  Could you post detailed instructions?
>

It is real simple and easy to do.  You will need to find a telephone
cord with a phone plug at one end and lugs on the other.  Take
your satellite receiver (or stereo or whatever you will use).  Tie
the center wire to one lug of the phone jack.  Tie the other wire
of the audio source to the other lug.  Unplug the modem from
the telephone line and plug in the phone jack.  Plug the audio
connector into your stereo, sat receiver, or whatever else you are
using.

Let's see if I can do a simple ASCII drawing below:


Audio cord                                    phone cord

----------------------==============================
 ground ^^^^^^        connection of gnd to one wire of phone cord 


----------------------=============================     
 center ^^^^          connection to other wire of phone cord 


very simple and quick to do (assuming you have the stuff lying around  
and you don't have to go to RS or some other place for some supplies).

Robert
roberts@triton.unm.edu
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From: kaufman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: sci-fi commericals
Reply-To: kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:39:45 GMT

gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org (Gary Sanders) writes:

>SCFI channel has been great... About the only annoying thing in the
>commericals. I dont mind commericals on a "FREE" channel, but are
>SCFI views really that messed up that we would be calling psyic advisors?
>Commericals must be cheap.......

5 minutes of commercials per 10 minutes of movie is a bit much.  Showtime
bit back by showing all three Star Wars back to back.... with no commercials.
Guess where I watched it.
-- 
Marc Kaufman (kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU)

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From: hstarke@europa.asd.contel.com (Hal Starke)
Subject: Re: If you're thinking of getting a dish
Reply-To: hstarke@europa.asd.contel.com (Hal Starke)
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:31:38 GMT

larry@ducktales.med.ge.com (Larry Landwehr) writes:

>Trees and buildings aren't anywhere near the obstacles that you may think they
> are.

This is true as long as they are not in your line of sight.
From: rkobenter@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Intelsat K in North America <<
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:40:46 GMT
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

follow up on my question if anyone is seeing anything on Intelsat - K

According to info Wolfgang provided me with, 

DW-TV is sending test programmes till 1.Nov. at 21.50 degrees west
at the moment on transponder h7 (11.605 GhZ) from 16:00 GMT+1 till 04:00GMT+1
in addition three DW-Radio signals are being relayed.

Anyone want to confirm?

Picture is NTSC.

robert kobenter

rwkobent@bcsc02.b



oops
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