HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aria@hardy.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [misc] puzzle
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:28:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug28.192831.8676
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

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Thu+a qui' di. -da.i nha^n,

Cho cha'u co' the^m mo^.t ca^u tha('c ma('c chu't xi'u. Ta.i -do.c go^`i
ma` cha'u cu~ng co`n ho+i u me^.  Cha? da'm ho?i ai, ho?i tha^`y so+. bi.
che^ ngu, ho?i ba.n so+. bi. che^ ga`n do+?, ho?i bo^` thi` bo^` bo?.
Xin ho?i ma^'y ba'c cho go^`i he'.



Cha'u muo^'n bie^'t la` ta.i sao tru+a no'ng ma` i't ho+i nu+o+'c trong
kho^ng khi' da^.y, chu'ng cha.y to.t -di no+i mo^ ?  Theo thie^?n kie^'n
cu?a cha'u thi` ca`ng no'ng ho+i nu+o+'c bo^'c le^n ca`ng nhie^`u thi`
kho^ng khi' ca`ng co' nhie^`u moisture???   Ne^'u sa(~n ba'c co' bie^'t
la`m o+n cho cha'u bie^'t ke' vo+'i.  "Cho ai bie^'t cu~ng va^.y, cho cha'u
bie^'t cha'u ca'm o+n"(*).  Co' pha?i la` ta.i tru+a na('ng qua' mi`nh nheo
ma('t la.i cho ne^n tha^'y ma(.t tro+`i nho? ho+n kho^ng da^.y???? 8-))

(*) Nha'i theo Kie^.t Ta^'n


Ki'nh
Tru+ Huye^`n Long, Jr.
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reply:

the question above related to humidity, solution depends on where you live,
o+? trong thung lu~ng, tre^n cao nguye^n, do^`ng ba(`ng, ga^`n bie^?n, etc...
in a closer aprox. thi` cu~ng tu`y theo nga`y nhe', co' nhie^`u ma^y kho^ng,
hay kho^ng co' ma^y, are there lakes & trees and wind velocity within the
region of the analysis.

A` ddu+`ng go.i to^i ba(`ng ba'c nha! to^i ma` kie^.n ba'c thi`  cu? khoai ba'c
va^~n kho^ng co`n dda^'y, go.i to^i la` ba'c ma^'y co^ che^ to^i.... gia` sao.

tha^n and have a good weekend !

.......bie^?n xanh........................................................


                                                        seahorse (mama)
                   seahorse (papa)
                                           seahorses (babies)




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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: folduon@mars.lerc.nasa.gov
Subject:  [nha.c] -Do+`i Qua' -Die^n Cuo^`ng
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  2 Sep 1992 15:51 EDT  


	-Do+`i Qua' -Die^n Cuo^`ng
	
			Vu~ Khanh tri`nh ba`y

			
Di.u da`ng em be' nhu+ sau co+n no^`ng.
Ma(.t tro+`i tu+o+i sa'ng nhu+ -dang go.i mo+`i.
Ro^.n ra`ng ca^u ha't say su+a ye^u -do+`i.
Cho+.t -da^u ma^y xa'm gia(ng ngang tre^n tro+`i.
O^i! bao tia sa'ng nhu+ sao -de^m mu`.
Va` trong -de^m to^'i sao kho^ng nha.t nho`a.
Lo`ng ngu+o+`i nhu+ la' ru? ro+i a^m tha^`m.

O^i! bao do^'i gian.  O^i! bao lo.c lu+`a.
-Do+`i bao mo^.ng u+o+'c, -do+`i qua' -die^n cuo^`ng.
Ti`nh ye^u luo^n luo^n la` gio' qua the^`m.
Nha.c xanh ti`nh a'i thu+o+`ng du+'t ngang vo+`i.
Na`o ai cha(?ng co' -da^`y no^~i mo+ mo^.ng
-Do+`i bao tu+o+i tha('m, -do+`i qua' -die^n cuo^`ng
O^i! bao mo+ u+o+'c -da^`y da^~y trong -do+`i
Cho+.t khi ti`m to+'i la.i tha^'y u buo^`n.

Nha^n gian thu+o+ng -dau, nha^n gian tuye^.t vo+`i.
Anh tha^'y trong ma('t em xanh nu. cu+o+`i
Va` trong -de^m to^'i -do^i ta thi` tha^`m.
Nu. ho^n a^n a'i tre^n da tho+m no^`ng
Nhu+ng sao bo^~ng du+tre^n da thi.t no^`ng
Va` trong -de^m to^'i ta say a^n ti`nh.
Cho+.t sao ta tha^'y me^nh mo^ng u+u phie^`n.
O^i! trong no^~i vui sao ta u buo^`n.
From: phduong@crdec8.apgea.army.mil ("Peter H. Duong")
Subject: Oriental & Asian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:23:01 GMT


tranht@spot.Colorado.EDU (<tranht@spot.Colorado.EDU>)
Subject: Asian vs. Oriental
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:04:25 GMT

wrote:

Hi all,
	H 0 hie^?u ta.i sao co' ng` object being called Oriental ma` Asian
thi` ddu*o*.c ... co' anh chi. na`o bie^'t xin gi?a thi'ch du`m nhe.

Thanks
Hieu



Is this how they get the term "Oriental Express"?
I think Oriental is more as a name for Asian railroad worker.

PHD
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: vavo@milton.u.washington.edu (Tuan Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Ddo^'!
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:30:43 GMT


Xin chao`!

Ca^u ddo^' vu'`a ro^`i ha^`u nhu' anh chi. em co^ ba'c ddoan' ddu'ng he^'t.
Tha^.t ra thi` 1 ddo^`ng co`n la.i cha(?ng cha.y ddi dda^u he^'t (27 ddo^`ng
= 25 ddo^`ng tra? o^ng chu? tie^.m + 2 ddo^`ng cho anh bo^`i ba`n).  T. chi?
the^m dzo^ 2 ddo^`ng dde^? la`m ra('t ro^'i mo^.t chu't tho^i. :-)

Hmmmm..., ti`m hoai` mo'i' ra ddu'o'.c mo^.t ca^u ddo^', vu'`a ddu'a ra la`
ba` con ddoan' ddun'g he^'t tro'n, kie^?u na`y cha('c T. sa.t nghie^.p so''m.
:-( Ba` con co' ddu'o'.c ca^u ddo^' nao` ngon ho'n kho^ng, xin dda(ng le^n
cho thie^n ha. thu'o'?ng thu''c. :-)

T.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Christina_N._Tran.LAX1B@xerox.com
Subject: Re: Tho+
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: CTran.LAX1B@xerox.com
Organization: SCV Relay
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:00:23 GMT


From lethien@roulet.enet.dec:com:


		Tij'ng -Dxi` Xt -Dt.ng

	Tti -dc st'ng nhzqg ng`y trong ngu.c -do2
	Bij't thb.t nhij`u nhzqg chuyj.n rb't -dx'n -dau
	Cha cua2 hdn' ng`y gid.c vj` -dem bdn'
	Me., em thx kinh tj' mxi' ngzt ng`n
	Crn vx. hdn' gid.c bdt' l`m ht. ly'
	Truyj`n tay nhau nhz mt.t thz' tti -dri
	Thbn xac hdn' gid.c bdt' -di ca2i ta.o
	Tz.a trbu br ng`y qub`n qub.t khtng ngxi
	Hdn' -dc kj2 chuyj.n gia -dlnh tan nat 
	Lj. hoen mx` xen tijng' nb'c bi thzxng
	Rt`i hdn' nsi thy n`y sau trang tra2i
	Gid.c nx. nb`n, mau tra2 mau mxi' xong

		      *  *  *

	Ndm ndm sau, tlnh cx` nxi -dbt' khach
	Gd.p la.i nhau tti khtn xijt' ngx~ ng`ng
	Cbu hdn' ho2i ng`y -db`u hai -dza' gd.p
	Cs xe chza, nh` lxn' nho2 bao phrng
	Tub`n mb'y but2i -di nha2y -dbm` nghe nha.c
	Cs mby' bt`, -de.p hay xbu', x2 -dbu
	Rt`i tij'p tu.c hdn' huyjn thuyjn trdm chuyj.n
	Nhzng khtng hj` -dc -dt.ng chuyj.n nhu.c xza
	Tti kinh nga.c, khxi chuyj.n ty ng`y trzx'c
	-Dj2 thz2 xem hdn' tht2 lt. nhzqg gl
	Nhzng hdn' la2ng nsi sang chuyj.n khac
	Chuyjn ng`y xza, hdn' nsi nhdc' l`m gl
	Gix` bia rzx.u, nha2y -db`m v` chuyj.n sex
	Cho ki.p ngux`i ke2o chd2ng ki.p vdn minh
	Tti khinh tx2m, khtng lx`i ch`o, -di thd2ng
	Vj` txi' nh` thao thzc' mby' ng`y -djm
	Nhzng ngs la.i chung quanh tti cu`ng khd'p
	Cuqg ca2 bb`y nhz hdn' cs thiju' chi
	Sang bx szc, chij`u rzx.u bia ngbt' ngzx2ng
	Chuyj.n thy nh` nx. nzxc' gac ngo`i tau
	Nhzng mx2 mij.ng ra -di vl chmnh tri.
	Chz' chd2ng vi` ly szc vxi' cu.c bx
	
	Tti ntn mz2a, vij't b`i thx gx2i bao
	Nhdn' nhzqg ngzxi` crn chzt mt lzxng tri
	Xin nhx' la.i nhzqg nhu.c nhd`n ng`y trzxc'
	Rzx.u bia thz`a chjt' nhu.c ldm' ngzxi` xi !

			       Vu~ Ngo.c Long 

ps. Repost theo lo+`i ye^u ca^`u .


HTC Jr. va^~n co`n say ....ha`ha`ha`

------
yep, we can tell from your "coded" poem!!! ;-))))

/tn
From: Tri'@ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [MISC] Anh Hu`ng Ho^` Ngo.c Ca^?n
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:48:41 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation


     I went home and did some verification.  Thie^'u tu+o+'ng Le^ Van Hu+ng
(tu+ le^.nh pho' qua^n ddoa`n IV) dda~ tu+. sa't na<m 75 cu`ng vo+'i thie^'u
tu+o+'ng Nguye^~n Khoa Nam (tu+ le^.nh qua^n ddoa`n IV).  Tra^.n Xua^n Lo^.c
(na<m 75) la` do thie^'u tu+o+'ng Le^ Minh DDao? (tu+ le^.nh su+ ddoa`n 18)
chi? huy.  Tu+o+'ng DDao? bi. ba<'t ddi cai? ta.o na<m 75.  To^i co`n nho+'
bo.n VC co' ddu+a o^ng le^n pho?ng va^'n tre^n TV lu'c o^ng co`n bi. giam
giu+? trong nam.  Tu+o+'ng DDao? dda~ ddu+o+.c tra? tu+. do.

     Mu`a he` na<m 1972, ta.i An Lo^.c, co' mo^.t co^ nu+? sinh bi. thu+o+ng
na<.ng.  Gia ddi`nh co^ dda~ bi. che^'t vi` tru'ng dda.n pha'o cua? VC.  Co^
ddu+o+.c ca'c ngu+o+`i li'nh Bie^.t Ca'ch Du` sa<n so'c ra^'t chu dda'o.  
Chie^`u chie^`u, khi ddi.ch dda~ ngu+ng pha'o, co^ thu+o+`ng ddu+o+.c ddu+a
ra ngo^`i cho+i tru+o+'c nha`.  DDo^'i die^.n nha` co^, no+i ga^`n cho+., co'
mo^.t khu dda^'t bi. san ba<`ng vi` phao' cua? ddi.ch.  Ca'c ngu+o+`i li'nh
Bie^.t Ca'ch Du` cho.n no+i na`y la`m cho^? an nghi~ cho ca'c chie^'n hu+u?
cua? ho..  Mo^.t ho^m co^ gai' tha^'y mi`nh ba^.t kho'c khi nhi`n ca'c chie^'n
si? Bie^.t Ca'ch Du` na<'n no't kha<'c tu+`ng chu+? le^n khu'c go^? la`m mo^.
bia cho nhu+~ng ngu+o+`i dda~ na<`m xuo^'ng.  Co^ ca~m hu+'ng la`m ma^'y ca^u
tho+:
     "An Lo^.c ddi.a su+? ghi chie^'n ti'ch
      Bie^.t Ca'ch Du` vi. quo^'c vong tha^n."

     Tra^.n chie^'n na<m 75 cu~ng co' ra^'t nhie^`u gu+o+ng anh hu`ng ma` 
ra^'t it' ngu+o+`i bie^'t dde^'n.  Nhu+ dda.i ta' Vo? A^n, trung ddoa`n 
tru+o+?ng trung ddoa`n 23, sau khi ddo+.i ngu+o+`i binh si? cuo^'i cu`ng
le^n ta`u dde^? ru't lui ve^` nam, dda~ mo^.t mi`nh lu+~ng thu+~ng ddi 
tro+? la.i vu`ng ru+`ng nu'i, no+i bao chie^'n si? cu?a o^ng dda~ bo? mi`nh.
O^ng quye^'t ddi.nh o+? la.i vo+'i ca'c ngu+o+`i chie^'n si~ cu?a o^ng dda~
na<`m xuo^'ng. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: itdtn@brahms.amd.com (Tuyet P. Nguyen)
Subject: Nha.c
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: amdcad!brahms.amd.com!itdtn@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:38:56 GMT


MU`A THU CHE^'T

Y' tho+: Apollonaire
Nha.c: Pha.m Duy

ta nga('t -di mo^.t cu.m hoa tha.ch tha?o
em nho+' cho mu`a thu -da~ che^'t ro^`i
mu`a thu -da~ che^'t
em nho+' cho
mu`a thu -da~ che^'t
em nho+' cho
mu`a thu -da~ che^'t
-da~ che^'t ro^`i
em nho+' cho
em nho+' cho
-do^i chu'ng ta
se~ cha(?ng co`n nhi`n nhau nu+~a
tre^n co~i -do+`i na`y
tre^n co~i -do+`i na`y

tu+` nay ma~i ma~i kho^ng tha^'y nhau
tu+` nay ma~i ma~i kho^ng tha^'y nhau
tu+` nay ma~i ma~i
kho^ng tha^'y nhau

ta nga('t -di mo^.t cu.m hoa tha.ch tha?o
em nho+' cho mu`a thu -da~ che^'t ro^`i
o^i nga't hu+o+ng tho+`i gian mu`i tha.ch tha?o
em nho+' cho ra(`ng ta va^~n cho+` em
va^~n cho+` em
va^~n cho+` em
va^~n cho+` em
va^~n cho+`
va^~n cho+`
-do+.i
em



TP.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tnguyen@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Tuan-Loc NGUYEN)
Subject: [co+` tu+o+'ng] tnguyen VS kien
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:12:04 GMT

   
 A(n la.i Ma~ ddo' ... to+'i phie^n ba.n ...

 _______________________________________________ 10
|x    |     |t    |\    |tu  s|     |t    |     |
|     |     |     |  \  |  /  |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|____\|/____|_____|_____|_____|9
|     |     |     |    s|\    |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |  /  |  \  |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|/____|____\|_____|_____|_____|8
|     |     |m    |p    |     |     |m    |     |
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|7
|c    |     |c    |     |c    |     |c    |    c|
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|____X|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|6
|                                               |
|           ** Tinh Tu' Ky` Ho^.i  **           |
|_____ ____C _____ _____ _____ ____C _____ _____|5
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|C____|_____|_____|_____|x____|_____|_____|____C|4
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|____P|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|3
|     |     |     |\    |    /|     |     |     |
|     |     |     |  \  |  /  |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|____M|/____|_____|_____|_____|2
|     |     |     |    /|\    |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |  /  |  \  |     |     |     |
|X____|____T|_____|S____|Tu__S|____T|_____|_____|
1     2     3     4     5     6     7     8     9

Be^n Tie^n:                          Be^n Ha^.u:
-tnguyen@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au        -kien@xuan.sps.mot.com
-tnguyen@uluru3.ecr.mu.oz.au

p8 n 5                               M8 t 7
m8 t 7                               C3 t 1
x9 n 8                               M2 t 3
x8 t 7 (a(n P)                       X9 t 1
p2 n 4                               X9 n 4  (ba('t p)
s4 t 5                               X4 t 4
m2 t 3                               M3 l 5  (ba('t xe)
x8 l 1                               C7 t 1
p5 t 4 (a(n C) chie^'u		     M7 t 5  (a(n p)
x8 n 5 (a(n M)

p.s. n = ngang , t = tie^'n , l = lui
From: Duc.Pham@dartmouth.edu (Duc Pham)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: CONCERT IN SAN JOSE AREA
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:39:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Aug25.233928.14763
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0d55@newshost.dartmouth.edu


                     A U T U M N   M E L O D I E S

	(A culture show by Aid to Refugee Children Without Parents)

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Vietnamese culture to non-Vietnamese who are interested in
the cultural life of the Vietnamese community, we proudly present an
evening of Vietnamese popular music under the theme "Autumn Melodies." 
Profits will go to the Aid to Refugee Children Without Parents Fund to
help unaccompanied minors in Hong Kong and Southeast Asian refugee
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Featured are music stars whose talents have captured the hearts of
several generations of Vietnamese music fans at home and abroad: 

Mai Hu*o*ng, Quy`nh Giao, Kim Tu*o*'c, Le^. Thu, Anh Ngo.c, Tua^'n
Ngo.c, and others.  The music is played by the popular band Phu*o*.ng
Hoa`ng.

	Sunday, 27 September 1992       4:30 PM - 7:00 PM
	San Jose Scottish Rite          2455 Masonic Drive

	Ticket Price:  Regular $20
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A special option by Horizons Magazine: Add $7 to get a year's
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Thank you for your suuport.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tntg0367@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thao N Tran)
Subject: [Misc] Please let the matter about ND rest
Reply-To: t-tran@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:48:06 GMT

To SCV members,

As someone who knows both ND and A. Thai, I've been very disturbed by
the recent messages concerning ND written by someone using A. Thai's
name, and by the anguish they've inflicted on my friends.  In risk of
exasperating the matter, I write now hoping to stop the development of
cruel gossips and false rumors among us about this incident.

By now there should be no doubt that A. Thai did not write those
messages, but instead he is also a victim of this very ill-meaning
masquerade.  Most of us have seen his statement on SCV to that effect.
The defamatory remarks on ND character, so unreasonably and
maliciously written, really deserve no response; except that they
are, of course, untrue.

A. Thai and ND are both adults whose behaviors continue to be above
reproach but whose characters have been purposely maligned.  The pain
they're experiencing is great, please don't compound it by engaging in
further speculations, on SCV or (especially) among friends.  Although
we are naturally inquisitive, let's recognize that the victims of this
deception should not have to justify themselves to satisfy our
curiosity.  Our consideration and sensitivity, on the other hand, are
most needed.

Thank you for your attentions.

		Thao Tran
		t-tran@uiuc.edu

[A personal note: computers can spread useful information with amazing
speed around the world, but they can also spread innuendos and lies as
efficiently.  It's very frightening how easily and extensively a
person's reputation can be damaged.]


Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: doky@uda.dgcd.doc.ca (Hien Doky)
Subject: Re: [TECH] Vietnamese freeware for DOS/Windows release
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: doky@uda.dgcd.doc.ca
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:48:50 GMT


	Many thanks to those involved in this project. The long hours that
you have been putting into this is greatly appreciated.

	Sincerely,

	Hie^?n

	PS. I'll send the postal cost, and etc... to the address provided.

	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: "Ngo, Trung" <NGOT@uvax6.disa.mil>
Subject: SIGN-OFF
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: NGOT@uvax6.disa.mil
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:29:28 GMT


      D E F E N S E   I N F O R M A T I O N   S Y S T E M S   A G E N C Y

                                        Date:     27-Aug-1992 15:10 EDT
                                        From:     Trung Ngo
                                                  NGOT
                                        Dept:     DNSO/DIPP
                                        Tel No:   (703)696-1725

TO:  SCV@MEDIA.MIT.EDU                    ( REMOTE )


Subject: SIGN-OFF

Please take my name off the mailing list

     	   	 Thanks,

     	   	 Trung Ngo

     	   	 Email Address:  ngot@uvax5.disa.mil
From: kien@xuan.sps.mot.com (Kien Banh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: co+' tu+o+'ng
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:55:59 GMT

> From: tnguyen@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Tuan-Loc NGUYEN)
> Kie^n , qua xe ddo' ...   hi` thu? tho^i kho^ng co' mu+u tha^m
> gi` ca? .

Ta.i ha. ddi C3 n 2
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|x    |     |t    |\    |tu  s|     |t    |     |
|     |     |     |  \  |  /  |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|____\|/____|_____|_____|_____|9
|     |     |     |    s|\    |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |  /  |  \  |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|/____|____\|_____|_____|_____|8
|     |     |m    |p    |     |     |m    |     |
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|7
|c    |     |c    |     |c    |     |c    |    c|
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|____C|_____|____X|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|6
|                                               |
|           ** Tinh Tu' Ky` Ho^.i  **           |
|_____ _____ _____ _____ _____ ____C _____ _____|5
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|C____|_____|x____|_____|_____|_____|_____|____C|4
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |     |     |     |     |     |
|____P|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|_____|3
|     |     |     |\    |    /|     |     |     |
|     |     |     |  \  |  /  |     |     |     |
|_____|_____|_____|____M|/____|_____|_____|_____|2
|     |     |     |    /|\    |     |     |     |
|     |     |     |  /  |  \  |     |     |     |
|X____|____T|_____|S____|Tu__S|____T|_____|_____|
1     2     3     4     5     6     7     8     9

Be^n Tie^n:                          Be^n Ha^.u:
-tnguyen@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au        -kien@xuan.sps.mot.com
-tnguyen@uluru3.ecr.mu.oz.au

p8 n 5                               M8 t 7
m8 t 7                               C3 t 1
x9 n 8                               M2 t 3
x8 t 7 (a(n P)                       X9 t 1
p2 n 4                               X9 n 4  (ba('t p)
s4 t 5                               X4 t 4
m2 t 3                               M3 l 5  (ba('t xe)
x8 l 1                               C7 t 1
p5 t 4 (a(n C) chie^'u               M7 t 5  (a(n p)
x8 n 5 (a(n M)                       C3 t 1
x5 n 3				     C3 n 2

p.s. n = ngang , t = tie^'n , l = lui
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From: nguye978@Armstrong.EDU
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Subject: SIGN-OFF
Date: 23 Aug 92 19:15:11 GMT
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Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu


  I am signing off.  I am going to Europe for a while now. Bye
From: jnle@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (C.N.M.T.)
Subject: Re: Ti`m Hie^?u
Reply-To: jnl@ihlpe.att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Naperville, IL USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:00:28 GMT
Summary: the answer plus one more question


> trinh@twix.etdesg.TRW.COM (Tien Trinh) writes:
> Xin cha`o ca'c anh chi.
> 
> Co' ai bie^'t ta.i sao the sun ra^'t to khi mo.c vao` buo^?i sa'ng va`
> la.(n va`o buo^?i chie^`u. va` nho? vao` lu'c tru+a???????
> TT


Cha`o ba.n Tie^n Trinh,

Ca^u tra? lo+`i cu~ng -do+n gia?n tho^i : the magnifying effect of
moisture in the air is LESS during noon than during dawn or sunset
thus the sun seems smaller.

Su+. a^?m u+o+'t trong ba^`u khi' quye^?n (moisture in the air) "acts 
just like a giant magnifier glass".  Lu'c ban tru+a, su+. a^?m u+o+'t
-da~ tan bo+'t ne^n ba^`u khi' quye^?n ma^'t da^`n su+. pho'ng -da.i
cu?a no' (the magnifying effect lessens when there is less moisture
in the air) cho ne^n mi`nh nhi`n tha^'y ma(.t tro+`i co' ve? nho? ho+n
lu'c tru+a .

Lu'c ban sa'ng, ba^`u khi' quye^?n co`n la.nh ne^n nhie^`u su+. a^?m 
u+o+'t va` lu'c chie^`u khi tra'i -da^'t quay qua^'t da^`n bo'ng ma(.t
tro+`i, ba^`u kho^ng khi' nguo^.i da^`n (cool down) va` su+. a^?m u+o+'t
trong ba^`u khi' quye^?n ta(ng da^`n.  Vi` the^' khi mi`nh nhi`n ma(.t 
tro+`i lu'c ban sa'ng hay ban chie^`u, ma(.t tro+`i co' ve? to ho+n vi`
nhie^`u moisture in the air.

Hope it helps

Take care,
----
C.N.M.T.

PS. Another question for netters: the Sun is closer to the Earth
    during winters so why is it much COLDER during winters than during
    summers?  Ai tra? lo+`i tru'ng C.N.M.T. se~ bao mo^.t cha^`u Pho+?
    Hoa` hay Pho+? Xe Lu+?a ne^'u co' di.p ghe' Chicago :)) :))  Ne^'u
    C.N.M.T. happen to be  out of town when you come thi` ra'ng ma`
    chi.u ... he^` he^` he^` :)) :))
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From: v-nguyen@retina.cis.ohio-state.edu (Viet-Anh V Nguyen)
Subject: Re: [MISC] Ti`m hie^?u ve^` que^ hu+o+ng
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:54:04 GMT

In article <183244@pyramid.pyramid.com> bdtest@pyrman2.mis.pyramid.com (Mfg.
Board Test) asked:


>	Va^?n thu+o+ng nghe no'i:
>
>	"Ha` no^.i, 36 pho^' phu+o+`ng"
>
>	Ca'c anh chi. hay ca'c ba.n na`o bie^'t te^n cu?a nhu+~ng
>	pho^' na`y, please post dde^? cu`ng bie^'t the^m ve^` que^
>	hu+o+ng Vie^.t Nam
>
>p.s:  Feel free to add up to the list to get all 36.
                    ^^^
>                                                         M.E


  
   "Ha`-No^.i ba mu+o+i sa'u pho^' phu+o+`ng,
    Ha`ng mu+'t, ha`ng -du+o+`ng, ha`ng muo^'i tra('ng tinh"

Feel free to subtract some from the following list to get down to 36. [1]


   HANOI'S STREET NAMES
   --------------------

   STREET LOCATION       GUILD PRODUCT
   ---------------       -------------

   Ha`ng Ba.c            silver
   Ha`ng Be`             rafts
   Ha`ng Bo^'            baskets
   Ha`ng Bo^ng           flower or cotton
   Ha`ng Buo^`m          sails
   
   Ha`ng Ca'             fish
   Ha`ng Ca^n            scales
   Ha`ng Chie^'u         mats
   Ha`ng Co't            mats
   Ha`ng Da              leather

   Ha`ng Da^`u           oil
   Ha`ng -Da`o           dyer's special red dye peach
   Ha`ng -Da^.u          beans
   Ha`ng -Die^'u         pipes and smoking paraphernalia
   Ha`ng -Do^`ng         brass

   Ha`ng -Du+o+`ng       sugar
   Ha`ng Ga`             chicken
   Ha`ng Gai             hemp (canvas)
   Ha`ng Gia^'y          paper
   Ha`ng Ho`m            coffins

   Ha`ng Khoai           sweet potatoes
   Ha`ng Lu+o+.c         combs
   Ha`ng Ma~             paper items to burn for the dead
   Ha`ng Ma('m           fermented fish
   Ha`ng Ma`nh           bamboo shades and blinds

   Ha`ng Muo^'i          salt
   Ha`ng Ngang           cross street
   Ha`ng No'n            hats
   Ha`ng Phen            alum, used medicinally and as a purifier for water
   Ha`ng Qua.t           fans

   Ha`ng Ruo^`i          worms
   Ha`ng Than            coal
   Ha`ng Thie^'c         tin products
   Ha`ng Thu'ng          casks or barrels
   Ha`ng Tre             bamboo

   Ha`ng Tro^'ng         drums
   Ha`ng Va?i            fabric
   Ha`ng Vo^i            lime calcium oxide used in the betel-chewing process,
                         not the citrus


REFERENCE:
----------
[1] Barbara Cohen, The Vietnam Guidebook, pp. 219-220.


RECOMMENDED READING:
--------------------
Tha.ch Lam, Ha`-No^.i Ba(m Sa'u Pho^' Phu+o+`ng.

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