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From: rivero@cc.unizar.es (Alejandro)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Smalltalk/V for Sun (Sparc)
Date: 29 Dec 92 13:24:00 GMT
Organization: ftuz
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7660F6BF6049318@m14724.unizar.es>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 29 Dec 92 14:21:31 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

In article <1992Dec24.000427.19827@informix.com> Craig Shaver,
cshaver@informix.com writes:
>In article <BzDFoJ.CB1@dale.cts.com> glippert@dale.cts.com (George Lippert)
writes:
>>Chuck Irvine (irvine@ntmtv.UUCP) wrote:
>>> I vaguely seem to recall hearing something about Digitalk doing a port
>>> of ST/V for the Sun Sparc. Does anyone know if there's any substance to
>>> this? Any information is much appreciated. Thanks
>>
>>I talked with Digitalk about two days ago (I wanted them to port to the NeXT)
>>and they told me that they where making their first foray into the world of
>>Unix and that, based on user demand, they were going for the IBM RS/6000!  No
>>definite plans about further platforms.
>>
>I think there may be some IBM $$$ involved that forced them to do the port.
>Same reason they are throwing away resource on the OS/2 2.0 and Parts ports
>rather than making an appropriate (for the market share IMHO ;') effort on
>the mess dos windoz product.
>

Note that it is a port based on a USER demand, no on a votation between users.
Guess who the user is?
 :-)

(By the way, they could do the port to the 6000 NextStep...)
From: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Jeff McAffer)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: ST80 is getting bigger
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:33:43 GMT
    <1992Dec19.183423.13077@netcom.com>
Reply-To: jeff@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: University of Tokyo / Object Technology International

In article <1992Dec19.183423.13077@netcom.com> nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) writes:

 >>What would you users think if ParcPlace gave us a chance to catch our
 >>breath by focusing on enhancements to performance rather than
 >>functionality in the next release?
 >
 >	Features sell.  Performance is secondary in the marketplace.

Gee, I thought performance was a feature?

--
--
ato de, |m        -- Santa or Satan?  Think about it.
From: vollrath@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Tips and oddments
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:04:14 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

Hi everybody,

    I have a few questions coming up shortly about bugs in
Smalltalk V/Mac, which other people may have overcome. Since
I like to pay for the time people save me, I intend to 
contribute the occasional oddment that has saved me time or 
added functionality to my system. If other people feel like
doing this, the value of this newsgroup would increase even
more for me.

I find that I am often working on more than one thing, and when
I get stuck somewhere, I leave it and come back later. Sometimes,
I hard code a return value, while I sort out other things needed
to get the real value. All this means: a) I'm a sloppy worker :^)
and b) there are various places that I want to remember to return
to. This is my solution. I add an item to the Smalltalk menu called
'Alun's notes', which brings up a browser of all the places that are
left unfinished.  Within a method, I write something like this:

{code code code}
self noteToAlun. "May need to change later, because blah blah"

All methods containing such a line can be immediately found by choosing
the 'Alun's Notes' menu item.  

The code is very simple, just change 'Alun' to your name, add the 
following methods, and then execute: 

Menu initialize.

Enjoy!

"---------------------------------------------------------------------"

!Object methods !

noteToAlun
        "Browse senders to find methods thus flagged.
         Added by Alun."! !


!Dispatcher methods !

notesForAlun
        "Show all notes for Alun in the system."


    Smalltalk sendersOf: #noteToAlun.! !


!Menu class methods !

doitMenu
    "Answer the menu to be displayed under the Smalltalk heading."

    ^ (Menu labels:
                ('Show it/J\Do it/D\File It In\Inspect it/I\',
                 'Stop/.\Alun''s Notes')
                     breakLinesAtBackSlashes
            lines:
                #(4 5)
            selectors:
                #(printIt doIt fileItIn inspectIt
                  controlBreak notesForAlun))
            title: 'Smalltalk'! !

*******************************************************************
Alun ap Rhisiart
Animal Behaviour Research Group
Oxford University.

When I wrote this, only God and I knew what it meant.
Now, only God knows

********************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
From: muhr@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Thomas Muhr)
Subject: Re: Digitalks, V, graphics
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 14:49:25 GMT

Joerg Rade <jrade1@GWDG.DE> writes:

>there is a solution for ii) i.e. ST/V 286 & HIMEM.SYS:
>
>    DEVICE=C:\DOS\HIMEM.SYS /INT15=2432
>
>This is for my 4MB machine. Some space is reserved for SMARTDRV. You
>may have to experiment with the number to make it fit your needs.
>This tip is orginally from Thomas Muhr.

The problem naturally, is not with himem.sys being declared in
config.sys, but comes when an XMS-oriented program like Windows or smartdrv
accesses it. When such a program is terminated, it doesnt restore the
memory scheme to its original state. Old extended memeory managers
like the  one ST/V 286 is using won't see any free extended mem
thereafter. The above solution reserves 2MB from being gobbled up by
an XMS program. The drawback is that it leaves exactly 2MB for either
ST/V 286 or Windows which is not acceptable in most cases. 
A solution which reserves all of memory for either environment is to
use a mark/release utility before/after the invocation of a XMS
program. One of these utilities is RESET. If you start Windows like this:

REM put this in a batch file stwin.bat
RESET remwin
pc-cache /extsiz=xxxxxxx
win %1 %2 %3
remwin

you can use ST/V 286 without rebooting your system.
With Windows 3.1 comes smartdrv.exe which shifts memory blocks around
so that RESET wouldn't be able to restore the previous state
accurately. That's why I use PC_CACHE in the above example batch file.

- Thomas
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Tel.: [+49] [30] 314-27882  FAX: -25959  
INTERNET: muhr@cs.tu-berlin.de        Compu$erve: 100013,377
In memoriam of John W. Lennon (Oct 9, 1940 - Dec 8, 1980)
From: eb@felix.Sublink.Org (Enrico Badella)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: !HELP! Compiling gnu Smaltalk 1.1.1
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:58:08 GMT
Organization: Soft*Star s.r.l, Torino, Italy

I'm trying to compile GNU Smalltalk 1.1.1 on a SparcStation 1+ with
SunOS 4.1.1B + gcc 2.2.2 + X11R5pl17.

I manage to obtain mst but when I try loading the classes with mst -V
I get a SIGVEC

   Processing ByteMemory.st
   Processing MethodInfo.st
   Processing FileSegment.st
   Processing SymLink.st
   Processing initialize.st
   Processing CFuncs.st
   "CFuncs.st", line 44: Segmentation violation
   Object class>>#isVariable
   Object class>>#variableSubclass:instanceVariableNames:classVariableNames:poolDictionaries:category:
   UndefinedObject>>#executeStatements
   UndefinedObject>>nil

with gdb

   Program received signal 11, Segmentation fault
   0xe530 in sendMessage (sendSelector=0x37fb8, sendArgs=0, sendToSuper=false)
       at mstinterp.c:1272
   1272          setStackTop(receiverVariable(receiver, header.numTemps));
   (gdb) bt
   #0  0xe530 in sendMessage (sendSelector=0x37fb8, sendArgs=0, sendToSuper=false)
       at mstinterp.c:1272
   #1  0xd78c in interpret () at mstinterp.c:996
   #2  0x160b8 in executeStatements (temporaries=0x0, statements=0x90aae0, 
       quiet=true) at mstcomp.c:389
   #3  0x3638 in yyparse () at mst.y:97
   #4  0x29ec in processFile (fileName=0xf7fff71c "CFuncs.st", quiet=true)
       at mstmain.c:628
   #5  0x2830 in loadStandardFiles () at mstmain.c:554
   #6  0x246c in main (argc=2, argv=0xf7fffbfc) at mstmain.c:317

I'm just starting now to learn Smalltalk and would like to practice
a bit with GNU + the new GUI just release. I still don't understand
what's happening at line 44 of CFuncs.st.

HELP! HELP! HELP!

-- 
Enrico Badella				Internet: eb@felix.sublink.org
Soft*Star s.r.l.			          eb@icnucevx.cnuce.cnr.it
Via Camburzano 9			Phone:    +39-11-746092
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
From: peterg@netcom.com (Peter Goodall)
Subject: Re: ST/V PM problems
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:13:32 GMT

ken@gunshy.ocunix.on.ca (Ken Walker) writes:


>In article <1992Dec15.082845.1578@uni2a.unige.ch>
>dugerdil@uni2a.unige.ch () writes:

>>
>> Dear Netters,
>...
>> I run ST/V PM version 1.4 on OS/2 2.0. From time to time the Smalltalk
>> system simply closes without any warning (but OS/2 does not crash). We

>I have experienced the same thing and what usually clears it up is freeing
>more disk space on your hard disk.  It is strange that neither OS/2 or
>V PM issue any low memory or swap space storage dialogs.  Try that,
>usually if I had less than 3 megs available this would happen.

I believe this is absolutely caused by /VPM running out of 16MB address space.
It can be reproduced every time by a simple script like:

	| aCollection aFileStream |

	aCollection := Array new: 1600.
	aFileStream := File pathName: 'log'.
	1 to: 1600 do: [:i | 
		aFileStream nextPutAll: i printString; cr; flush.
		aCollection at: i put: (ByteArray new: 10000) ].

/VPM 1.4 crashes when 16 bit address space is exhausted. This space usually
seems to include the operating system, the network, Windows sessions and
other Space Junk.

/VPM 2.0 crashes in an equally graceless fashion as the virtual address
space is exhausted when the swapfile is unable to grow.

I don't know if it is possible to ask the OS for the ammount of available
16bit space left, so the Smalltalk application could clean up gracefully.

Peter Goodall -- peterg@netcom.com
From: ac690@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Edward Klimas)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: PPS stand-alone executable ?
Date: 29 Dec 1992 16:35:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ac690@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Edward Klimas)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, mjhe@ktibv.uucp (M.J.H. Eersel) says:

>Zoetermeer, December 28 , 1992
>
>Dear Smalltalkers,
>
>Can anyone tell me if it is possible to build a stand-alone executable
>of an application with Objectworks 4.1/Visualworks 1.0 of ParcPlace Systems ?
	Very much so.  There are a number of high performance systems
	running r4.1 embedded into VME cards.
>If so, could you give me the commands how to do it ?
	There are a number of vendors providing services and tools to
	acomplish this.

	Ed Klimas
	Linea
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
From: jax@well.sf.ca.us (Jack J. Woehr)
Subject: Re: wanted: smalltalk/V for DOS
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:09:01 GMT

In <92357.192827COP80196@UCF1VM.BITNET> Bill Laird <COP80196@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:

>Greeting smalltalkers. Does anyone happen to have an educational version
>of smalltalk/V for DOS that they would like to sell? Actually, I would
>rather have the PM product, but the college budget and all does not
>permit.

	You have to be kidding: the full licensed copy with unlimited
runtime distribution is $65.00 from Programmer's SHop, or thereabouts.

	If you haven't got $65.00, drop out of school and get a job!

		=jax=
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From: wayne@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Rick Wayne)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: C++/Views: A Model-View-Controller Library for C++
Summary: Beta version wasn't bad
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:51:05 GMT
Reply-To: wayne@schaefer.UUCP (Rick Wayne)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics


i've worked with it for some prototyping projects.  the company i was with
at the time was a beta site for C++/Views.

i rather liked their browser and documentation tools, and it looked like
the M-V-C setup would allow a reasonably simple port from smalltalk.

rw
From: curzon@trooa.enet.dec.com (29-Dec-1992 1600)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Silence project mgmt for st/v win?
Date: 29 Dec 1992 15:02:49 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

        Looking for any reports or opinions about "low budget" ST/V
        Windows project managers.

        One I am interested in hearing about is Silence... another is
        Empower.  Thanks for any inputs...

                                Richard Curzon, Digital Equipment of Canada
				Toronto
   (from INTERNET)     curzon@trooa.ENET.dec.com 
   (from COMPUSERVE)   71371,2521  OR  >INTERNET:curzon@trooa.ENET.dec.com
From: lturner@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Louis Turner)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Dialog radio button text on Mac
Summary: Dialog radio button text on Mac
Keywords: Dialog radio button text mac
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:46:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I am trying to figure out how to set the text string of a dialog
radio button from within a ST/V program.  i know that it can be
changed in the resource itsel. To facilitate upgrades to this
application and to make sure the collection indexes are in sync
with the radio button item number it would be better if I could 
change the text from within ST in a manner similar to the 
setItemText: method for static and editable text fields.

Thanks 
Hamp
From: nicted@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Nicole Tedesco)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: C++/Views: A Model-View-Controller Library for C++
Date: 26 Dec 92 16:31:52 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)8338-616

Has anyone used C++/Views under C++?  Any suggestions?  Comments?
Gripes?  I am planning to use it to "convert" a Smalltalk prototype
into a C++ program.

Thank you!
- Nicole
  Tedesco

---------------------------------------------------------------------
nicted@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Nicole Tedesco)
-- Change this!
From: mkne0014@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Martin Kneissl)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Digitalk Email address
Date: 21 Dec 92 08:46:42 GMT
Reply-To: martin@paule.han.de
Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ

In article <724777068marten.marten@feki.toppoint.de> marten@feki.toppoint.de (Marten Feldtmann) writes:
> CompuServe:  76711,366
> Internet:    bug@digitalk.com, sales@digitalk.com, info@digitalk.com
>
> Well, I've never had any responses, but I also never get my e-mails
>back ..
>
> MF
>

The Internet-addresses are right, my last recent mail was answered within
three days.

  Martin Kneissl
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
From: protocom@DMI.USherb.CA (protocom-Laurent turcotte)
Subject: Teaching kids/adults OOP concepts
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. d'Informatique
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 04:56:50 GMT

I'm looking for ANY info about TEACHING OOP to kids or adults...

	-It could be done using smalltalk and turtle graphics...

	-It could be done using hyperCard like programs...

	-It could be done with a book od some kind...

	-Anything (the sky is the limit)

I'm thinking of doing a University school project on this

P.S. ANY FEED BACK ON THIS IS DEEPLY APPRECIATED NO MATER HOW SMALL
-- 
Larry Turcotte                           Internet:protocom@dmi.usherb.ca
computer science student/consultant
consulting company:Protocom              Is there anybody out there.....
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
From: chchen@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Jimmy Chen)
Subject: Groupware in Smalltalk????
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:22:21 GMT

Hi,
	Does anyone have experiences in groupware development with
	Smalltalk? Groupwares are such as "collaborative editing",
	"Desktop Conferencing System" and so on. 
	Any comments would be appreciated!!

--
------------------------
Chen Jin-Hong
chchen@csie.nctu.edu.tw
National Chiao-Tuang University, Hsin-Chu of Taiwan
------------------------
From: David.Mao@lambada.oit.unc.edu (David Mao)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Price for Objectworks 4.1 for MS windows?
Date: 31 Dec 1992 19:53:04 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Does anyone know the price of Objectworks 4.1 for MS-windows?

By the way, happy new year, everybody!
 
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:14:48 TUR
From:         Ayhan Ergul <ERGUL@TRMETU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Advice for Smalltalk/V on Mac

Mr. Karathonos,
   We, at Middle East Technical University, are using Smaltalk/V MAC mainly
on 3MB  IIsi's. However, the manual reports a minimum configuration of:
- 1.5 MB RAM
- Hard disk and floppy
- System 4.2 and Finder 5.0 or later

and optionally:
- Multifinder
- More RAM
- FPU (68881 or 68882)
- Larger and/or color monitor

Yes, it runs on 68000. But development with anything smaller than a 12"
monitor is hard to manage(see).

Ayhan Ergul       ergul@trmetu.bitnet
From: mjhe@ktibv.uucp (M.J.H. Eersel)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: PPS stand-alone executable ?
Keywords: Visualworks 1.0, stand-alone executable
Date: 28 Dec 92 08:21:10 GMT
Organization: KTI BV

Zoetermeer, December 28 , 1992

Dear Smalltalkers,

Can anyone tell me if it is possible to build a stand-alone executable
of an application with Objectworks 4.1/Visualworks 1.0 of ParcPlace Systems ?

If so, could you give me the commands how to do it ?


Thanks in advance.

Miguel


e-mail address : mjhe@pyrhps.ktibv.nl
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
From: nholtz@cascade.carleton.ca (Neal Holtz)
Subject: Re: Smalltalk/V for Sun (Sparc)
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:52:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.205810.4440@ntmtv> irvine@ntmtv.UUCP (Chuck Irvine) writes:
>|> Unless Digitalk has changed their philosophy a lot, your Smalltalk/V for Windows
>|> application probably won't be portable to any other Smalltalk/V implementation.
>
>Huh? Don't they actually advertise cross platform compatibility? I know I would
>have to recompile and port any Windows specific stuff, but I thought
>the port would relatively easy. I gather that in your experience this isn't
>necessarily so? Your input is appreciated.

There may be some degree of compatibility between V/Windows and V/PM -- I can't
speak to that.  But between V (or V/DOS), V/286, V/Windows, and V/Mac there are
major differences in any thing that deals with the user interface (menus, panes,
windows, etc).


--
Prof. Neal Holtz,  Dept. of Civil Eng.,  Carleton University,  Ottawa,  Canada
Internet: nholtz@civeng.carleton.ca  Ph: (613)788-2600x5797 Fax: (613)788-3951
From: cshaver@informix.com (Craig Shaver)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Smalltalk/V for Sun (Sparc)
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:08:06 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Dec17.215209.9884@cunews.carleton.ca> nholtz@cascade.carleton.ca (Neal Holtz) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.183312.17246@ntmtv> irvine@ntmtv.UUCP (Chuck Irvine) writes:
>>In article <SOEREN.92Dec17114524@cachalot.cs.tu-berlin.de>, soeren@cs.tu-berlin.de (Soeren Detering) writes:
>>|> In-reply-to: glippert@dale.cts.com's message of Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:29:06 GMT
>>|> [...]
>>|> It exists an Objectworks(r)\Smalltalk, Release 4 (for Sparcs).
>>
>>True, but my Smalltalk/V for Windows application is far from portable to
>>S/T80.
>
>Unless Digitalk has changed their philosophy a lot, your Smalltalk/V for Windows
>application probably won't be portable to any other Smalltalk/V implementation.
>
>
>--
>Prof. Neal Holtz,  Dept. of Civil Eng.,  Carleton University,  Ottawa,  Canada
>Internet: nholtz@civeng.carleton.ca  Ph: (613)788-2600x5797 Fax: (613)788-3951

The only real portability is between OS/2 and windoze.  It is pretty close for
a smalltalk implementation.

-- 
Craig Shaver  (cshaver@informix.com for now) (415)390-0654 (415)926-6407
Productivity Group POB 60458 Sunnyvale, CA  94088
From: frerk@loophole.tk.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Frerk Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Re: Problems with scheduled window pp4.1
Date: 21 Dec 1992 10:03:07 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Informatics Department, Telecooperation Group
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: loophole.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de

Although I haven't done that yet, I would guess that:

oldCompositePart release.

will do better.
-- 
Frerk Meyer <frerk@tk.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de>  -+
Portnoy@irc             "Do the ride thing!"                 o>o
From: goodies-lib@cs.man.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
Subject: Manchester Goodies Lib
Date: 1 Jan 93 04:52:11 GMT


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> Browser-spellingCheck	5622	manchester/4.1/Browser-spellingCheck.st 
	 adds spelling correction to some browser menus 
	 -Bernard Horan <bernard@is.morgan.com> 4.1  
> chg	101000	uiuc/st80_r41/chg 
	 Class Hierarchy Graph Browser 
	 -Neil W. Van Dyke R4.1  
> hotdraw	1386000	uiuc/st80_r4/hotdraw 
	 Framework for structured drawing editors. 
	 -Pat McClaughry & Ralph Johnson (hotdraw@cs.uiuc.edu) R4  
> hotdraw	486000	uiuc/st80_r41/hotdraw 
	 Framework for structured drawing editors. 
	 -Pat McClaughry & Ralph Johnson (hotdraw@cs.uiuc.edu) R4.1  
> menuInspector	4925	manchester/4.1/menuInspector.st 
	 use a walking menu to inspect an object 
	 -Bernard Horan <bernard@is.morgan.com> 4.1 + TreeMenu 
> Polyline-outlineIntersects-fix	1588	usenet/st80_r4.X/Polyline-outlineIntersects-fix.st 
	 OWST R4.1 Patch for Polyline>>outlineIntersects: 
	 -geidel@wior360.wiwi.uni-karlsruhe.de (Joachim Geidel) 4.1  
> smallBrain	104000	uiuc/st80_r41/smallBrain 
	 Neural network simulator 
	 -Murali Krishnan, Karl Hess, Selvan Kulandaiswamy R4.1  
Newsgroups: comp.lang.smalltalk
From: jax@well.sf.ca.us (Jack J. Woehr)
Subject: Re: Wanted: SmallTalk Compiler for DOS
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 04:12:06 GMT

In <1993Jan1.213122.15362@netcom.com> wayne@netcom.com (wayne t. watson) writes:

>Can anyone make a recommendation for a relatively inexpensive Smalltalk

	Wayne, immediately phone Programmer's Shop or Programmer's Paradise
or Programmer's Connection or Programmer's Left Hind Tit or whatever and buy
Smalltalk/V for DOS. Do the whole tutorial and you'll be ready!

			=jax=
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