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From: ns@csd.cri.dk (Nick Sandru)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Russians and Moldova
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:49:11 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Computer Resources International A/S

sclera@milori.ccit.arizona.edu writes:


>Howdy.  In soc.culture.europe, someone mentioned that a Russian
>army had moved into Moldavia/Moldova.  This has not been reported
>in my area - at least I didn't see it.  Any news on this would
>make a fine post to this group.

It is the 14th Russian Army, already based in Moldavia. It carries on
a peace keeping mission together with Moldavian army units and
with units belonging to the so-called Dnestr republic along the Dnestr
river and in Tighina (Bendery), following a cease-fire agreement between
the Moldavian president Mircea Snegur and the Russian president Boris
Eltsin.

>C.S. Cornuelle
>bob@sclera.physics.arizona.edu

Long Haired Nick

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: hargitai@acf3.NYU.EDU (hargitai,,,)
Subject: Iliescu gets rough. -))):
Organization: New York University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:08:00 GMT


a0518-----r i PM-Romania-PresidentialS     08-17 0348
PM-Romania-Presidential Scuffle,0317 Romanian President 
Allegedly Roughs Up Opposition Journalist 
   BUCHAREST, Romania (AP)  President Ion Iliescu, 
apparently enraged by a booing crowd, physically assaulted 
an opposition journalist, the reporter said today. 
   Another reporter at the scene 
confirmed the account, but a spokesman for Iliescu denied it. 
   The incident occurred Saturday, as the 
normally security-conscious Iliescu, leaving the 
Black Sea port of Constanta after Navy Day ceremonies, 
reportedly jumped out of his limousine 
to confront about a hundred demonstrators. 
   Among the protesters was Paul Pirvu, a reporter for 
the local newspaper Telegraful. He told The Associated Press 
today that the president went directly for him and grabbed 
his collar and part of his neck, then shouted, Why 
are you booing, you animal? 
   Iliescu's bodyguards, apparennly surprised by the attack, caught 
up and grabbed Pirvu by his arms and legs, 
the reporter said. The president's grip left some bruises, he said. 
   Alexandru Mihalcea of Romania Libera, the 
leading opposition daily, confirmed the account. He said 
Iliescu's bodyguards remained behind 
afterwards, beating journalists and trying to confiscate film. 
   Iliescu spokesman Alexandru Mironov acknowledged that 
Iliescu approached the crowd and engaged in a discussion with 
Pirvu but denied any physical assault by the president or his guards. 
   Mironov said that Iliescu was surprised to see a 
man wearing a press badge booing, so he wanted to have a word. 
He said the president's office will try to strip 
Pirvu, whom he termed a hood, of his journalist's accreditation. 
   The Association of Romanian Journalists, the country's 
main press union, backed Pirvu's 
version in a statement and offered 
to fund any legal action against Iliescu. 
   Iliescu, a former Communist minister, came 
to power in the 1989 revolution that 
overthrew dictator Nicolae Ceausescu. Despite 
persistent charges that 
he has blocked democratic and free-market reforms, 
he is widely expected to win re-election on Sept. 27. 
   AP-DS-08-17-92 0958EDT
From: code@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Romania or Roumania ?
Summary: hold down ALT key, enter ASCII character code, release ALT key
Keywords: presently, it is ROMANIA
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:39:37 GMT
Distribution: world,romania
Organization: base-one, mars

Romania (ASCII:82-111-109-97-110-105-97) in Romanian:82-111-109-131-110-105-97
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: hargitai@acf3.nyu.edu (hargitai)
Subject: Third World Status?
Organization: New York University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 14:16:39 GMT

Shouldn't be.

At this point in time, Romania has the great chance to transform
herself into a more advanced, more liberal and more prosperous
society. Romania, as you all know, is a rich land, rich in minerals,
oil, wood, salt, water-ways, most likely richer than country
of similar size. Add to that the people, who -despite
much of today's propaganda- lived together in relative peace, and
you have the making of something unique. Would it not be great to
see a new "golden age of Transylvania", a revival of Bucharest? 
Would it not be a better way than that of burning Sarajevo, Mostar
and Vukovar?
With elections in a month, I wonder what people are thinking, what
options they're considering.

When they read news like this, what do they think?
   "The crash of rockets and mortars echoed around the Bosnian
capital early today. Three people were reported killed this morning.
Meanwhile, under increasing international pressure, Bosnian Serb
leaders ordered an end to "ethnic cleansing." (ap)

What do people think? Is this a good example? Is it a bad one?
Is it OK if it happens here as long I don't have to be involved? 
As long as the extremists take care of the ugly stuff? 
Am I ready to oppose those forces?
Are there such forces? 

So with the elections coming, one wonders, will Romania pass up
the chance?
For the sake of all her citizens I hope not.

joseph

oh, my cousin had a Dacia, wasn't all that bad a car.
From: ns@csd.cri.dk (Nick Sandru)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: not a test. sports
Date: 18 Aug 92 07:50:30 GMT
Organization: Computer Resources International A/S

es_obrej@rcvie.co.at (Irina Obreja) writes:

>Romania is on the 12th position in the medals order (4xgold). It has a 
>total of 15 medals. Two golden ones were taken in gym-women. One was
>taken by Elizabeta Lipa in women single rowing (don't know the distance
>anymore). I don't remember who took the 4th one. Anyhow, I can look in

It was the 4+1 (men) rowing crew, on 2,000m.

>the Austrian newspaper this evening and give you more exact information.
>Are the American newspapers really that bad? Don't you have cable tv?

I have it at home in Denmark (Eurosport & Screensport), but during the
Olympic Games I was in Romania and I watched the whole thing on Romanian
TV.

>Greetings to all of you,
>Irina

>-- 

Long Haired Nick

-- 
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From: 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Strategii pentru azil politic
Date: 21 Aug 1992 21:50:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Fratele unui bun amic de-al meu are o firma in San Francisco ce
se ocupa de azilanti politici; am fost extrem de surprins cind
am aflat care sint sumele necesare pentru a declansa ,si, de fapt
aproape garanta oeratiunea...Sincer sa fiu, eram sub impresia ca
mii de dolari sint necesare, ceea ce nu este adevarat. Iata cum
merg lucrurile:

1) te prezinti la firma si esti intervievat; esti intervievat si
complectezi formularele; nu platesti nimic; in mod normal vei apare
in fata unui judecator de imigartie intre un an si trei; in cursul
aceleiasi prime vizite firma iti va complecta si trimite aplicatia
pentru permisul de munca ( INS-ul cere $150 pentru chestia asta).
permisul il poti ridica in persoana (cel temporar) in citeva zile
sau , daca nu te grabesti, poate fi trimis firmei;

2) Sa spunem ca ai ghinion si INS-ul te cheama la judecata in 6 luni;
pe deasupra, iti mai si refuza azilul; firma depune un recurs si te
reprezinta pina in Supreme Court ( de la INS local court te duce
Appelate INS Court si un Supreme INS Court; daca ai pierdut in INS
Court, te poti in civil courts); in mod normal, drumul pina in 
Supreme INS Court dureaze cam 6-7 ani; intre timp ai drept de munca
si in mod normal vine o amnistie; tot ce trebuie sa platesti este
$1,500, DUPA CE AI AJUNS IN INS SUPREMER COURT, si nu toti odata...
Singurul mod in care esti "dezavantajat" este daca cumva INS-ul
iti acorda azil "din prima", si atunci platesti $1500 desi firma
nu a facut mare lucru decit sa iti scrie aplicatia si sa mearga cu 
tine la prima infatisare; daca insa nu ai un caz foarte clar, atunci
esti mai bine cu firma. Sint niste oameni de incredere pe care ii cunosc
personal; sint Nicarageni si fac chestia asta mai mult pentru Centrameri-
cani.

Adresa: 3438 Mission street 
	San francisco, CA 94110
	telefon: (415) 648-7999

Interbati de Leo Lacayo. Succes!
 

-- 
Radu T. Tomescu at UCBerkeley
Department of Economics
From: snf_av@debet.nhh.no
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Russians and Moldova
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:10:11 MET
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Norwegian School of Economics

In article <ns.714127751@csd>, ns@csd.cri.dk (Nick Sandru) writes:
>It is the 14th Russian Army, already based in Moldavia. It carries on
> a peace keeping mission together with Moldavian army units and
  ---------------


We all know the international expr. "peace keeping". I've heard the 
Russians saying, and not only once, "peace making",which means something
else. The expr speaks for itself.

Toate bune,
Anca

Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: did@kepler.unh.edu (Dusan I Dragovic)
Subject: COMPUTER BUSINESS IN ROMANIA
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:50:21 GMT


I am starting computer business in Romania. Looking for contacts in
Romania for distributors. 
Please reply e-mail to D_DRAGOVIC@unhh.unh.edu or 212 575-9265.
Any advice is welcome.
Dusan Dragovic
From: mitrache@gringo.usc.edu (Traian Mitrache)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Re: Pulse or tone dial ?
Date: 16 Aug 1992 10:10:48 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gringo.usc.edu

In article <cosinus.713983101@rama> cosinus@rama.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Costin-Laurentiu Strugaru) writes:
>Hello,
>
>what kind of (phone) dial system do they use in Romania ? Is it pulse
>dial or tone dial ?
>
                                                                              
	The system used in Romania is pulse dial.                             
                                                                             

                                                                             

>Greetings,
>
>Costin.


	Traian



-- 
mare maestru impresionist

mitrache@gringo.usc.edu
From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
Subject: Electronic Matchmaker
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 00:58:13 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Romanian women, having a problem finding a Romanian man?  I am about 
to launch a free electronic matching service on Usenet.  Thanks to 
the imbalance of men to women on Usenet, more guys than gals have 
expressed an interest so far.  If you would like to see the fifth 
draft of my questionnaire so we can alter it to also fit women's 
needs as well as men's, either send me mail or look at the copy I 
posted in alt.personals.  
 
This service is serious and I already have 291 men and 162 women 
signed up so far.  The site of the service has already been selected 
and programming has begun.  
 
I should point out that this questionnaire really, really, really, 
needs some more input on CULTURES.  I need some questions to make 
sure that matches are compatible culturally.  
 
                                                          Eric Klien
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: viktoria@carson.u.washington.edu (Viktoria Seibert)
Subject: Re: Third World Status?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 07:32:43 GMT

hargitai@acf3.nyu.edu (hargitai) writes:

>Shouldn't be.

>At this point in time, Romania has the great chance to transform
>herself into a more advanced, more liberal and more prosperous
>society. Romania, as you all know, is a rich land, rich in minerals,
>oil, wood, salt, water-ways, most likely richer than country
>of similar size. Add to that the people, who -despite
>much of today's propaganda- lived together in relative peace, and
>you have the making of something unique.  Would it not be great to
>see a new "golden age of Transylvania", a revival of Bucharest? 

Here, here! :-)  This is what I always say to my doubting relatives 
and friends who think I'm crazy to want to live in Ardeal after I 
get my graduate degree in software engineering.  My CS-major friend
in Timisoara told me in a letter last week that his CS departement 
just got 4 SUNs and they will have internet in some months (he wasn't 
specific.)  I intend to get a job here in America after I get my 
degree, but arrange it so I can telnet to work every night (I'm 
metebolically nocturnal) and therefore not have to commute.  This 
means there's no reason why I couldn't go live in Timis when the
university there has a full InterNet site (i.e., telnet-able.)  I
would like to teach there also during the hours I'm not doing my
American job over telnet.  After many years of hard work and saving, 
I would like to start an electronic music/computer sythesizer 
company to rival Yamaha, Kurtzweil, Korg, Rolland, Casio, Toshiba, 
etc, etc...  Look out Japan!  

So what do people think?  I am crazy?

>So with the elections coming, one wonders, will Romania pass up
>the chance?
>For the sake of all her citizens I hope not.

Me too. :-)

O prietena in noapte,
Vica 
viktoria@u.washington.edu         Clinton/Constantinescu '92
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: cosinus@rama.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Costin-Laurentiu Strugaru)
Subject: Pulse or tone dial ?
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 16 Aug 92 16:38:21 GMT

Hello,

what kind of (phone) dial system do they use in Romania ? Is it pulse
dial or tone dial ?

Greetings,

Costin.

-- 
 'Der Mensch hat zwei Beine, zwei linke Haende, eine doppelte Zunge 
  und eine doppelte Moral. Die eine Moral braucht er, wenn er es sich 
  gutgehen laesst, die andere, damit seine Nebenmenschen das nicht 
  merken' 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.romanian
From: trefan@random.phys.unt.edu (Gyorgy Trefan)
Subject: Re: Romania or Roumania?
Keywords: I do not understand
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:43:56 GMT

	In the message with Message-ID: <1992Aug18.082128.28961@kth.se>  
mihai@nada.kth.se (Mihai Dorobantu) writes reflecting to a linguistical  
problem:

'...
I am sure that it is no plot of the Hungarians or
other foreign agencies!
..'
	Hmmm...Will you explain it in more details, please.
		George Trefan trefan@fractal.phys.unt.edu
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Egg Creams (was Re: Proof of the Decline and Fall)
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:38:33 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug20.133137.27509@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal) writes:
>very cold milk
>Fox's U-Bet (this does not constitute an endorsement or advertising.  The
>		fact that you cannot make a real egg cream with anything
>		else notwithstanding.)
>chilled seltzer (in an emergency, club soda may be substituted. Shudder)

It comes out wrong if you use bottled seltzer.  Seltzer delivered in
"spritz" bottles works much better.  Unfortunately, they are hard to
come by, these days.  My grandfather still gets them, but he's the
only one I know of.

[rest of recipe delted for space]
-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "I don't even represent myself
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   sometimes so NJIT is right out!.
 ((|,)
  ~|~  Hi! I am a .signature virus, copy me into your .signature file.
From: schin@acs.bu.edu (neil schier)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Looking for Hunter College High '86, Columbia '89
Date: 16 Aug 92 00:05:55 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: schin@acs.bu.edu


Please do not flame me. I am trying desperately to get ahold of three people
and nothing else seems to work.

I am trying to find Vanessa Southern and Sarah Roff Hunter College High '86
and Martin Strauss Columbia '89

Regards
Neil Schier
From: w2dz@watson.ibm.com (Daniel Zalik)
Subject: Vatican, Israel and Hidden Children
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:34:05 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Could anyone supply the official text of the Catholic Curch's position
on requirements for the recognition of the State of Israel. I realize
that there are currently talks being held at a fairly high level regarding
such a prospect, but I am interested not so much in the most recent events
as in the historical context of the Vatican's refusal to recognize the
Jewish State. I am interested in the evolution of church policy
since the establishment of the modern state to the present. I would like
to compare the Catholic relations with Israel with the Catholic
relations with Israel's adversaries.

I am also interested in the circumstances surrounding the protection offered
Jewish children during the Nazi reign, especially by Catholics. I have been
recently made aware that many Jewish children were taken in by Catholics, and
subsequently saved from annihilation by the Nazis and their collaborators.
Moreover, many (maybe most) of these children subsequently embraced
Catholicism. In fact, I believe that the Archbishop of Paris was a 
"hidden child."

Any theological, social, or political comments on these issues would be greatly
appreciated.



Daniel Zalik

The opinions expressed above are my own and do not reflect those of
my employer.
From: ben@ccvs1.technion.ac.il (Ben Pashkoff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Smoking during major fasts
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:24:37 GMT
Reply-To: ben@ccvs1.technion.ac.il (Ben Pashkoff)
Organization: Technion IIT, Haifa Israel


In article <1992Aug11.183431.26498@uc.msc.edu>, saroff@uf.msc.edu (Stephen Saroff) writes:
|>In article <1992Aug11.115448.25992@discus.technion.ac.il>, ben@ccvs1.technion.ac.il (Ben Pashkoff) writes:
|>|>
|>|> concluded that it MAY be permissible but a good idea.
|>|> On a broader scale, smoking in general has been stated not to be halacically
|>|> acceptable at all, but still people continue.
|>|> --
|>I would argue that since smoking is objectively bad for the body,
|>with no redeming virtues, it is banned under halacha, period ;->.
|>
|>BTW, on a related note, I know the rabbis weren't wild about sports,
|>but as we now know that sport is good for you, amusing modest etc, etc,
|>wouldn't it almost be obligatory to do some exercise?  (I know I'm linking
|>exercise and sport...).
|>
|>Don't mind me, I'm just causing trouble ;->.
|>--
1) As someone pointed out, I made a typo. I meant to say that it MAY be
permissible but NOT a good idea. Sorry if I was mis-understood. I am,
personnally, very much against the idea of smoking in general.

2) It is all well and good to say "I would argue", but since this was started
as a request for halachic and rabbincal sources, I continued as such, trying to
keep my own arguements out of it.

3) Styephen, you are not causing trouble. RAMBAM in Hilchot Deot (MT), states
that a man should spend a good perios of time each day in exercise and taking
care of the body. He further states (I thnk also in Hilchot Deot, but not
certain) that a person should try to sleep 6-7 hours a day, learn 6-7 hours,
work (i.e. earn a living) 6-7 hours, the reast of the time for meals and such.
The time for exercise should come out of the time to earn a living.
--
________________________________________________________________________
|            Ben Pashkoff                 BEN@VMSA.TECHNION.AC.IL      |
|                                                                      |
| "There is nothing better for the body than silence." Pirke Avot 1:17 |
|______________________________________________________________________|
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: murray.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Tanya, remarks
Date: 23 Aug 92 01:44:41 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

The Tanya as posted here is the result of much work by Chabad. They have 
asked for feedback from you the readers as to how well you have received 
this new translation. All criticism, good or bad, is gratefully welcomed.
Please let us know!
Thank you
From: isaac@numbat.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Isaac Balbin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Smoking during major fasts
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:00:13 GMT

janiceg@marvin.Eng.Sun.COM (Janice Gelb) writes:

>On a related note, I've always thought someone should do a study on how
>dedicated chain smokers are able to completely stop smoking on
>Shabbat. 

I saw people who ex-haled into a bottle before Shabbos and used that bottle
throughout Shabbos.
From: rice@enterprise.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel S. Rice)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Bushism: On Meir Kahane's Supporters
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:38:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: enterprise.berkeley.edu

In article <590mnka.barnhart@netcom.com> barnhart@netcom.com writes:
>"Look, look, there's Kahane protesting on the boat.  I thought this
>guy was kind of dead."
>
>-- President Bush, pointing out protesters loyal to the late Meir
>   Kahane to Yitzhak Rabin, Kennebunkport, August 10
>
>(Source: The New Republic, August 31, 1992, p. 10)

	Actually, some of the reporting on this incident missed the
reference in the slogan (and party name) "Kahane Chai" (Kahane Lives),
which can be construed as referring literally to Kahane's son, the leader
of the new "movement."  In fact, the pun was extended further on Israeli
campaign posters, which used the slogan "Od Kahane Chai," which can be
translated as either "Kahane still lives" or "another Kahane lives"
(corrections to my Hebrew appreciated).

						Dan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Bringing up Baby
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
Distribution: soc
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:16:00 GMT

My brother's girlfriend just found out she's pregnant.

Since she's Catholic, she's (of course) going through with the
pregnancy, and they're getting married.

HE, however, is Jewish.

The two have agreed that while she doesn't want to convert, they want
to raise the children as Jewish.  He wants to do a "conversion at
birth" since the children won't be born Jewish.

1. Is this doable?
2. If not, how can they raise the children as Jews?

Thanks,

--Lynn
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