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From: rjc@world.std.com (Richard J Callahan)
Subject: Phantom Ship Inquiry
Summary: Phantom Ship Inquiry
Keywords: phantom ghost fire ship new england maine casco penobscot legend
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:31:52 GMT


Howdy! 

 I am researching phantom ship legends and sightings along the New
England coast, concentrating especially on the areas of Casco Bay and
Penobscot Bay in Maine. 

 If anyone here has seen a phantom (ghost) ship, or knows stories about
them, or might be able to direct me to anyone else who might, please send
me e-mail at the address below.  Any possible information concerning
legends and sightings would be greatly appreciated, and I would especially
like to talk to some people who might have had a first-hand experience with
one of these ships. 

 Thank you! 

 email information to:  pholk@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:26:44 GMT

In article 21913@ptdcs2.intel.com, lhales@ptdcs2.intel.com (Loyde Hales ~) writes:
> 
> Finally, a voice of reason!  :-)
> 
> Really, I was going to get out my Bag of Long-Winded Replies, but I decided to
> scan for others first.  In this particular case, The Golden Gryphon hits the
> nail on the head.  The particular scenes (yes, others claim to see the ghost
> in different scenes) have one commonality: they were all filmed on a sound
> stage built for the movie.  The apartment building "on location" is only used
> for OUTSIDE shots, as is common in movies.
> 
> This has been discussed frequently in a number of newgroups.  I've seen
> replies from cameraman on the movie, aides to producers, and many others.
> They all report the same thing.
> 
> But I do so prefer the story...
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Loyde W. Hales II
> Portland Technology Development, Intel Corporation		Aloha, Oregon
> E-mail:  lhales@ptdcs2.intel.com
> Voice:   (503) 642-6819

bzzzt. sorry . but that isnt the case. 
Pacino's last film .. Glen whatevers was filmed in Sheepshead Bay Brooklyn.
the chinese restaurant is actually a jewish bakery.
The Exorcist's bedroom was a dorm room at Fordham University.
these 2 i know for sure cause .

a. i went to fordham
b. i live in Sheepshead Bay

also many Full-Moon productions are filmed on location.
as are many other movies.
sometimes reality is better than F/X.
so please never speak in generalities when discussing movies. a movie can be filmed anywhere.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------

   	


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: d8b@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Denise M. Boudria)
Subject: Dead relatives communicating from beyond
Organization: Raytheon Submarine Signal Division
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:33:15 GMT

I've read the posts here dealing with people having dead relatives come
back to say "good-bye" and I have a story of my own.  My mom died in Dec.
of 1982 (wow, ten years now, hard to believe), anyway she was sick for a
very long time (cancer) and knew for about two months that this was it.
We discussed the afterlife (she was very religious and was "ready").  She
had had a few "strange" experiences in her life and we talked about whether
we thought it was possible to come back and haunt someone, or just say
hello, or whatever.  She definitely believed it could be done and promised
that she would try to come back to give me a sign that it was possible.
This scared the shit out of me and I told her that I definitely didn't
want her to do that to me.  I told her it would be OK if she came back
and scared the shit out of my little sister who I didn't get along with
anyway.  She laughed and said that since I felt like that then she would
try to find a way that wouldn't scare me.

Well needless to say, when she died I waited, and waited, and waited.
I got married, did all the usual things, just basically got on with life.
Dad remarried and I got pregnant (after a year of trying).  My due date
was Sept. 17 and the doctor figured my probable date of conception was
Dec. 18.  I didn't think anymore about it until after the baby was born.
I gave birth to a beautiful, healthy baby boy on September 14, 1986.  What
would have been my mother's 50th birthday.  My date of conception (Dec. 18)
was the date of my mother's death.  Was my mother trying to send me the
sign she had promised??  I'd like to think that my son has a special
guardian angel looking after him.  Maybe that's what she was trying to
tell me.  I don't know, I'm just glad she didn't try to come back and
spook me in the usual way, I would have lost it for sure.

Denise

P.S.  Oh yeah, my Dad says it's all my fault that I had a boy (I wanted a
girl).  When I found out my due date, I told him that if it was born on
Mom's birthday and was a girl, I would name it after her (Claire).  My Dad
says the kid had to be a boy because my Mom hated her name.
From: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Date: 11 Dec 1992 20:28:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com

Hello everyone, I am new to this net and don't know if anybody ever talked
about the story with the boy figure in the move Three Men & Baby.  When
I saw this for the first time it just sent chills down my spine.  Was
this proof to millions of people that ghost do exist.  The company tried
to cover up saying that was a cardboard figure, they got to be kidding.
How could everybody on the stage miss that.  Does anybody out there
know alittle more insight to this.  All I know is that the little boy
died in that same apartment some years back, the same apartment that
they filmed the movie at.

Dave

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: Voices in my house
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:08:08 GMT

warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon) writes:

>My sister has a friend that comes over to visit her once in a while.  Every-
>time she comes over or spends a night she would here her name being called.
>When she responds, everyone says that they never called her.  She says that
>this even happens in her own house.  Once she was washing the dishes, she
>heard my T.V go on and the channels changing, she went to go see who it was
>and there was nobody downstairs, only my sister taking a shower upstairs.
>Everybody in my house thought she was kinda flippin' out until it started
>happening to my little nephew.  My nephew is 3 three years old, he would
>often go his mom and what do want mommy, his mom say that she never called
>him, this happens repeatidly.  Then I thought there are two crazy people in
>this house, until it happened to me.  I was in my room when I heard my dad
>calling me, I went down stairs and only my mom was home, she said my left
>3 hours ago.  This has only happened once to me, I heard it so clear, now
>I don't know what to beleive.  Has anybody have this type of experience,
>if you do, shed some light on it for me.   

>gee thanx

>Dave


Couls be some kind of energy/time loop.  Your dad calls you, and then a day or
two later you hear it.  It could also be a spirit or ghost with a talent for
ventriloquism.  Get the place checked up by someone with some psychic talent.

I personally have only heard of things like this, which I discount, until I
experience them myself.

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
"Mad Scientists seeks mindless brawny assistants, good pay, quiet location."
"They're not ghosts,  they're metaphysically challenged." - Me
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
Subject: Re: dreams of god
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:02:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.015737.1445@colorado.edu> bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Bear Giles) writes:
>
>Oh yeah, I sometimes hear a voice calling my name when I'm half asleep.
>I recognize it as a part of my subconscious trying to reach me; generally
>the next day I can retrieve interesting tidbits using standard autoquestioning
>techniques.

Well, during my "troubled" days, I had to undergo psychiatric evaluation.
Being a smart lad, I had already read up on the standard responses to
the Rohrschach inkblot test, the Minnesota Multiphasic Personality Inventory,
as well as a few other choice indexes (so well, that I explained to the tester
how I COULD mold my responses to seem psychotic, or perfectly sane.  I was
rated "Untestable" in all these things as a result.  However, when going 
through the final section, he asked, "Do you ever hear someone calling your 
name, and no one is there?"  Being an (truthful) idiot, I said, "Yes."
Boy did THAT open a can of worms...they had me labelled as paranoid 
schizophrenic (which is why I violated their sacred temple by reading their
tests, because I was paranoid) and I was ALMOST medicated, when I pointed 
out to them that perhaps I had REALLY good hearing, and a eidetic memory
that remebers snatches of past conversations, down to actual snippets (which
I then showed was the case by repeating verbatim asspects of our past 
conversation.  As I pointed out to the tester, it's not that I HEAR them, as
much as I DON'T look for them.

Sheesh, Bernadette and Elijah would be REAMED today...

-- 
I don't mind being the smartest	    / Thanatos, DeathUrge, Master of Unknown
man in the world...I just wish it   \ Time and Space tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 
wasn't this one...	       	    / It's a Zen thing... 
	-Ozymandias 		    \	 you wouldn't understand...  
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:00:46 GMT

warman@eagle.sangamon.edu (Stan Warman) writes:

>Dave Maycon (warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM) wrote:
>> Hello everyone, I am new to this net and don't know if anybody ever talked
>> about the story with the boy figure in the move Three Men & Baby.  When
>> I saw this for the first time it just sent chills down my spine.  Was
>> this proof to millions of people that ghost do exist.  The company tried
>> to cover up saying that was a cardboard figure, they got to be kidding.
>> How could everybody on the stage miss that.  Does anybody out there
>> know alittle more insight to this.  All I know is that the little boy
>> died in that same apartment some years back, the same apartment that
>> they filmed the movie at.
>> 
>> Dave
>> 
>I went through this scene in stop-motion and on one frame I could see
>that it was obviously a figure with a top hat on. The studio said that
>it was a cut-out of Ted Danson in a top hat. Watching the scene at
>regular speed sure is spooky though!

I thought that they filmed movies in sound stages.  It is too tight to get a
film crew into an apartment.  I will have to look at the movie again, but
exactly what point in the movie does the kid appear.

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
"Mad Scientists seeks mindless brawny assistants, good pay, quiet location."
"They're not ghosts,  they're metaphysically challenged." - Me
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
From: lorenzo@spot.Colorado.EDU (Eric Lorenzo)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Ghost dream
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:21:39 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

I've posted this on alt.dreams before, but thought I should bring it up
since we're on the topic of weird/scary dreams.  I've had this dream a
few times in the past, where I think I am dreaming that I am paralyzed
and lying in bed.  I try to move and scream, but I can't.  It gets very
frantic as you start to get very scared about not bein able to move.
Some people even have reported seeing a gremlin/gobin sitting on thir
chest when this happens!  Fortunately this hasn't happened to me.  
Eventually you seem to 'snap' out of the paralysis.
	
Some people do indeed think this is a dream.  Other think it is when
you wake up suddenly from deeper sleep.  You're body is at it's most
relaxed state then and could lead to this paralysis.  Either way it is
a very unsettling way to wake up.  Anyone have this 'ghost dream' at
all?

Thanks for the time,
Eric

-- 
       --    O          The thrill is                   Eric J. Lorenzo
     ---   </\_      not just in winning,       lorenzo@Rintintin.Colorado.EDU
   ----  -\/\         but in the courage                  also @UCSU
      ---   /_         to join the race    -?               & @Spot
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: seto@ll.mit.edu (Seton Seto)
Subject: Re: Voices in my house
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 15:18:06 GMT

	In chinese folklore, if a person heard his name called but no one was there, the thing to do was not to answer.  If you did, an evil spirit would come and take your soul.
	My mom actually told me about a freind of hers that had this experience.  They went to a little restaurant in NYC on Canal street in chinatown and the place was empty and very quiet.  The friend was there with 2 other friends.  One decided to go the the restroom and as he was doing his thing, he heard a woman's voice calling him.  He was about to answer but thought about it and decided not to.  He then heard the door to the restroom make noises.  After about 5 minutes, he decided to make a run for it to h



is friends.  When he got out, he told his friends and they high-tailed it out of there.  After he got home, his mom did a little excorcism on him.
	He later heard that there supposedly was a girl that committed suicide in that restaurant years earlier.



Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Bear Giles)
Subject: Re: Anybody heard this one?
Organization: National Oceanic & Atmospheric Adminstration / Boulder Labs
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:45:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.190625.11611@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> lorenzo@spot.Colorado.EDU (Eric J. Lorenzo) writes:
>In article <1992Dec8.165513.14765@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> hart@newton.ccs.tuns.ca 
>
>	Can't someone just take a level and see if these hills are actually
>going uphill?  And if they are, how does the science world explain these?

The Committee for the Scientific Investigation for Claims of the Paranormal
does look into these and publishes the results in the _Skeptical Inquirer_.
They covered the hill in Orlando a few years ago.

And they have always been optical illusions.

-- 
Bear Giles
bear@fsl.noaa.gov/cs.colorado.edu
From: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Voices in my house
Date: 12 Dec 1992 20:53:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: warriors@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Maycon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com

My sister has a friend that comes over to visit her once in a while.  Every-
time she comes over or spends a night she would here her name being called.
When she responds, everyone says that they never called her.  She says that
this even happens in her own house.  Once she was washing the dishes, she
heard my T.V go on and the channels changing, she went to go see who it was
and there was nobody downstairs, only my sister taking a shower upstairs.
Everybody in my house thought she was kinda flippin' out until it started
happening to my little nephew.  My nephew is 3 three years old, he would
often go his mom and what do want mommy, his mom say that she never called
him, this happens repeatidly.  Then I thought there are two crazy people in
this house, until it happened to me.  I was in my room when I heard my dad
calling me, I went down stairs and only my mom was home, she said my left
3 hours ago.  This has only happened once to me, I heard it so clear, now
I don't know what to beleive.  Has anybody have this type of experience,
if you do, shed some light on it for me.   

gee thanx

Dave

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: probe@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Prabal Nandy)
Subject: Re: Ghost dream
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:56:59 GMT

  Hmm... someone brought this up before, and I replied then too...

  Well, I used to have this problem constantly as a child, until about 7th
grade or so. I eventually asked my father, (Who is an anesthesiologist), who
told me it's quite natural... Basically, that chemical that your brain
secretes to keep you from acting out your dreams is still active... so even
though you're trying to move naturally, your brain is still cancelling the
commands... 
   As for the feelings of panic, that's normal all things considered.
Patients on muscle relaxant also have bursts of panic when they wake to find
themselves paralyzed. The feeling of helplessness is terrifying
instinctively. 
   The hallucinations themselves are created by the panic, the feeling that
you can't breath... (You CAN, unfortunately you can't CONTROL the breathing
so it makes you panic more...) and the fact that you're still pretty much
asleep...

   The feeling should only last about 30sec, right?
                                                           -Probe

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: lhales@ptdcs2.intel.com (Loyde Hales ~)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Organization: Intel Corporation -- Aloha, Oregon
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:02:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.142644.17875@shearson.com> scarrobi@shearson.com writes:
>In article 21913@ptdcs2.intel.com, lhales@ptdcs2.intel.com (Loyde Hales ~) writes:
>> 
>> Finally, a voice of reason!  :-)
>> 
>> Really, I was going to get out my Bag of Long-Winded Replies, but I decided to
>> scan for others first.  In this particular case, The Golden Gryphon hits the
>> nail on the head.  The particular scenes (yes, others claim to see the ghost
>> in different scenes) have one commonality: they were all filmed on a sound
>> stage built for the movie.  The apartment building "on location" is only used
>> for OUTSIDE shots, as is common in movies.
>> 
>> This has been discussed frequently in a number of newgroups.  I've seen
>> replies from cameraman on the movie, aides to producers, and many others.
>> They all report the same thing.
>> 
>> But I do so prefer the story...


>bzzzt. sorry . but that isnt the case. 
>Pacino's last film .. Glen whatevers was filmed in Sheepshead Bay Brooklyn.
>the chinese restaurant is actually a jewish bakery.
>The Exorcist's bedroom was a dorm room at Fordham University.
>these 2 i know for sure cause .

> ...

Did you read what I said.  There are no absolutes here, and generalities of
this sort are valid.  To quote myself:

	The aparment building "on location" is only used for OUTSIDE shots,
	as is COMMON in movies.
	      ^^^^^^

No statement of absoluteness here.
This movie was shot on a soundstage.  Period.

-- 
Loyde W. Hales II
Portland Technology Development, Intel Corporation		Aloha, Oregon
E-mail:  lhales@ptdcs2.intel.com
Voice:   (503) 642-6819
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: bear@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Bear Giles)
Subject: Autoquestioning
Organization: National Oceanic & Atmospheric Adminstration / Boulder Labs
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:50:31 GMT

A number of people have asked about my comment regarding autoquestioning.

The book "You can do it with Self-Hypnosis" by Charles E. Henderson, Ph.D.
discusses several autoquestioning techniques, including the Chevreul
pendulum (which I find most useful).  All autoquestioning technique
rely on a deep relaxation with trained ideomotor responses.

This book also contains a number of suggestions on how to effectively
communicate with your subconscious.  It will take several months before
you are completely comfortable, but I found the results well worth it.

-- 
Bear Giles
bear@fsl.noaa.gov/cs.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: hf10@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (FieryPhoenix)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:13:27 GMT

About the ghost scene in Three Men and a baby-

I too viewed the scene in slow motion and didn't see any top hat.  If I 
remember correctly it was a little boy standing behind the curtain looking in
and I believe the boy was wearing blue jeans and a yellow and red striped
shirt.  
For all those that asked, the scene occurred after Ted Danson had answered
the door and was escorting his mother into the living room to see the baby.
If you look at the windows they pass you will see the 'ghost'.

I also let the slow-motion play until they panned the same window a few minutes
later but didn't see the boy.  Any ideas?

-FP
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: remcat@athena.mit.edu (Rachel Emily Molenaar)
Subject: Re: Boy Ghost in Three Men & Baby
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:40:11 GMT

|> Hello everyone, I am new to this net and don't know if anybody ever talked
|> about the story with the boy figure in the move Three Men & Baby.  When
|> I saw this for the first time it just sent chills down my spine.  Was
|> this proof to millions of people that ghost do exist.  The company tried
|> to cover up saying that was a cardboard figure, they got to be kidding.
|> How could everybody on the stage miss that.  Does anybody out there
|> know alittle more insight to this.  All I know is that the little boy
|> died in that same apartment some years back, the same apartment that
|> they filmed the movie at.


My mother and I rented the video and slow-tracked through that particular scene,
and concluded that it probably was real, except that there's a remote possiblilty
that it could have been the shadow of a prop we see later. It's a good idea to
see this one for yourself.

bye bye bye!
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From: popiels@foss.Colorado.EDU (POPIEL STEPHANIE LYN)
Subject: Re: Ghost communicating with children
Reply-To: popiels@foss.Colorado.EDU (POPIEL STEPHANIE LYN)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:36:31 GMT

When I was in the sixth grade, one of my friends had a ghost who had follow her from her old house when her family moved.  The ghost's name was Miles, and he was a grandfatherly Jewish gentleman who would tell her stories, but could also be michevious (sp?).  He liked to rearrange and hide her collection of plastic horses.  I was never sure whether to believe her (although I did believe in ghosts) until one day he followed her to shcool.  During reading period I suddenly heard her whispering "Miles, stop i

t!" under her breath.  She had backed her chair away from the desk - and the pages of the book on the desk were flipping quickly back and forth.  There was no one else near it.  Definitely convinced me.

Stephanie
 
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