HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: boone@psc.edu (Jon Boone)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: sending sys files
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:26:33 GMT
Organization: Pittsburgh SuperComputing Center, Pittsburgh, PA, USA


  I was notified yesterday that my news system sent out my sys file to
some bozo who asked for it.  At least once, the attempt bounced, and
I'm not too worried about it since I don't think much harm can come of
it.  However, I'm wondering why this happened and if this is a bug or
a feature.  Comments by Rich Salz, and the authors of [B,C]news are
particularly welcome.

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From: ckchiu@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk (CHIU Chong-kan)
Newsgroups: news.misc
Subject: How to change News server ?
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:58:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: cucs5.1992Oct15.125838.26416
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong


Our news server only subscribe a number of news groups.  As a user,
is there any way for me to change the server (connect to another
server) ?

Please E-mail to me !  All help appreciated !!!

C.K.Chiu 
Newsgroups: news.misc
From: keithd@versyss.com (Keith Doyle)
Subject: Irrelevant and Malformed Newsgroup Polls
Reply-To: keithd@versyss.UUCP (Keith Doyle)
Organization: VERSYSS Incorporated, Torrance, California
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:00:15 GMT


Was the recent near-netwide poll sent by Kingsley Morse an appropriate
use of the net?  It appeared in places like talk.origins, rec.autos.antique,
which seemed completely irrelevant to the subject at hand, not to mention
that such a simplistic questionaire is probably irrelevant in any newsgroup
except rec.polling.101.

Is this the relevant place to post relevancy questions?  (Am I relevant yet?)

Keith

Newsgroups: news.misc
From: schnoebe@convex.com (Eric Schnoebelen)
Subject: Re: sending sys files
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:13:23 GMT
Organization: USENET news support, CONVEX Computer Corp, Richardson, Tx. USA
Followup-To: news.misc
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

warlock@ecst.csuchico.edu (John Kennedy) writes:
- In article <bw1q94.aig@wang.com> fitz@wang.com (Tom Fitzgerald) writes:
- 
- -->...You've replaced it with a scheme that's useless for automated mapping,
- -->  but still just as good at harassment.  This doesn't seem like a
- -->  constructive change.
- 
-   I think anyone who feels that they can auto-map (well and reliably) is
- pretty nieve, but that's IMHO.  

	The automapping software ca only be as acurate as the responses
it gets.  Of course, as long as all (or just most) your neighbors
reply, I can figure out who and what you feed, even if you don't
provide a reply.

	Mapping is useful for determining news flow in various
regions.  I occasionally run a sendsys of the dfw region (getting
replies from Southern California in the process) and attempt to turn
the results into useful information about news flows.

-                                It's a reduced form of harassment,
- however -- my message was considerably shorter than my sys file.
- 
-   My, won't your mapper like something with INN's "newsfeeds" format, too.  (:

	This is just another reason that the sendsys reply format
needs to be standardized, perhaps as part of the son-of-1036 RFC that
Henry Spencer is supposed to be working on.

	[I'm trying to write some software that will handle all (er,
most) of the known sendsys reply formats, so I can produce useful
maps from sendsys replies.  It ain't been fun.  B news, C news, ANU
news, and what ever is running under VM all have a slightly different
reply format.  And now INN.  rah!]
-- 
Eric Schnoebelen		eric@cirr.com		schnoebe@convex.com
Flon's Law:
    There is not now, and never will be, a language in which it is
	    the least bit difficult to write bad programs.
Newsgroups: news.misc,news.admin,misc.misc,news.groups
From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Subject: Re: Alternate Means of Posting to Newsgroups
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
Organization: AS&M Inc
	<1bc80eINN9lj@ef2007.efhd.ford.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:43:26 GMT

In article <1bc80eINN9lj@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor) writes:

   In article <1992Oct10.103354.24416@leland.Stanford.EDU>
   underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
   :       news-misc@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

   Use the mail-news gateway at decwrl.dec.com -- it's more reliable and

As I understand these gateways, they are all primarily for the use of
the news readers at those sites, and are basically unsupported for the
use of outsiders.  I would suggest that you use them sparingly if
necessary, with the same consideration for these providers as for any
public service by anyone not obligated to provide such (anonymous FTP
sites come to mind).  What I'm saying is that they could go away with
_no_ explanation necessary to the net, if the load becomes too great.
After all, they are private or otherwise limited resources.

Getting a real news (reading and posting) system locally is of course
(IMO) the best solution, if at all possible.  But it requires admin,
disk, CPU, and comm resources.
--
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
    employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at
         NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
Newsgroups: news.misc,news.admin,misc.misc,news.groups
From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Alternate Means of Posting to Newsgroups
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 10:33:54 GMT

About 1.5 years ago, I discovered that news could be posted indirectly by,
for example, mailing to 

       news-misc@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

if I wanted to post the contents of the mail to news.misc, bypassing the
rn utility.

Does this still work?  Specifically, is ucbvax.berkeley.edu still a valid
post-news site?  Also, can all news groups of the form "x.y.z" be
reachable by sending mail to x-y-z@ucbvax.berkeley.edu (i.e. just replacing
the "." with "-")?

Please send e-mail.  Thanks.  I'm trying to help a net acquaintance out.

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Newsgroups: news.lists
From: newsstats@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Total traffic through uunet for the last 2 weeks
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:30:17 GMT

Newsgroups: news.lists
From: newsstats@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Top 25 News Submitters by Site by Kbytes for the last 2 weeks
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:26:17 GMT


         No. of      % of
Rank Articles Kbytes Total  Site
   1  3724   11500.0  2.2%  netcom.COM
			      37% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
			      12% alt.sex.pictures

   2  1094    5872.2  1.1%  uunet.UU.NET (UUNET Technologies, Inc)
			      65% our.reports.uucp
			      12% our.reports.usenet
			      8% our.mail.ops

   3   112    5516.9  1.0%  colossus_guardian.COM
			      53% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
			      41% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.blondes

   4    95    5312.2  1.0%  gssec.BT.CO.UK
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.misc

   5   213    4650.9  0.9%  aurora.CC.MONASH.EDU.AU
			      96% alt.binaries.pictures.misc

   6    83    4472.3  0.8%  spiff.WF0.DEC.COM
			      88% alt.binaries.pictures.misc
			      11% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

   7   116    4057.7  0.8%  csie.NCTU.EDU.TW
			      94% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

   8   221    4057.6  0.8%  cadence.COM
			      94% alt.binaries.pictures.misc

   9   209    3511.5  0.7%  bigwpi.WPI.EDU
			      60% alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless
			      29% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

  10    61    3329.1  0.6%  mswind.UUCP
			      100% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

  11    79    2930.8  0.6%  bcvms.BC.EDU
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

  12  2093    2549.8  0.5%  andrew.CMU.EDU
			      4% alt.discordia

  13   457    2499.5  0.5%  hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Research Computing Services)
			      82% alt.binaries.pictures.misc

  14  1559    2267.7  0.4%  cleveland.FREENET.EDU
			      11% rec.sport.football.pro
			      8% soc.culture.french
			      7% alt.conspiracy

  15  1270    2149.0  0.4%  nyx.CS.DU.EDU
			      22% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
			      5% talk.abortion

  16   188    2016.8  0.4%  spot.COLORADO.EDU
			      49% alt.binaries.sounds.misc
			      25% alt.binaries.pictures.misc
			      11% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

  17   219    1864.1  0.4%  acs.UCALGARY.CA (University of Calgary)
			      86% alt.binaries.sounds.misc

  18  1637    1837.2  0.3%  wetterhorn.UCAR.EDU (Scientific Computing Division/NCAR)
			      100% ncar.weather

  19    33    1806.3  0.3%  sunk12
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.misc

  20   526    1714.5  0.3%  igc.APC.ORG (Community Data Processing(CdP); Institute for Global Communications(IGC))
			      21% alt.activism
			      21% soc.rights.human
			      10% soc.culture.african

  21    57    1677.2  0.3%  cimage.COM
			      61% alt.binaries.pictures.misc
			      18% alt.binaries.pictures
			      17% alt.tv.prisoner

  22  1461    1661.9  0.3%  uxa.CSO.UIUC.EDU (University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, Computing Services Office)
			      4% rec.games.programmer

  23    33    1585.9  0.3%  nextdoor.COM
			      99% alt.binaries.pictures.erotica

  24    74    1583.7  0.3%  drutx.ATT.COM (AT&T)
			      9% soc.culture.vietnamese

  25   956    1518.0  0.3%  iastate.EDU
			      7% alt.supermodels
			      5% soc.culture.mexican
			      5% talk.origins


Newsgroups: news.lists
From: newsstats@uunet.UU.NET
Subject: Top 25 News Groups for the last 2 weeks
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:26:47 GMT

         No. of        $ Cost  % of  Cumulative
Rank  Kbytes Articles per Site Total  % of Total  Group (Articles/contributor)
   1 37453.9     857     98.84  7.1%     7.1%     alt.binaries.pictures.erotica (4.5)
   2 36884.7     897     97.33  7.0%    14.1%     alt.binaries.pictures.misc (5.3)
   3  7564.3     351     19.96  1.4%    15.5%     comp.mail.maps (1.0)
   4  6228.8     240     16.44  1.2%    16.7%     news.answers (1.0)
   5  5792.1    2823     15.28  1.1%    17.8%     talk.politics.misc (4.1)
   6  5456.4    3293     14.40  1.0%    18.8%     talk.abortion (8.8)
   7  4402.6    2254     11.62  0.8%    19.6%     alt.politics.clinton (3.9)
   8  4222.0      88     11.14  0.8%    20.4%     alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.blondes (12.6)
   9  4215.1      20     11.12  0.8%    21.2%     our.reports.uucp (6.7)
  10  3551.0     121      9.37  0.7%    21.9%     alt.binaries.sounds.misc (2.5)
  11  3516.4     248      9.28  0.7%    22.6%     alt.supermodels (1.8)
  12  3359.9      74      8.87  0.6%    23.2%     comp.binaries.os2 (1.0)
  13  3337.4    1827      8.81  0.6%    23.8%     alt.politics.bush (3.5)
  14  3269.9    1653      8.63  0.6%    24.5%     alt.politics.elections (3.0)
  15  3238.2      93      8.55  0.6%    25.1%     alt.binaries.pictures (3.1)
  16  3179.6      69      8.39  0.6%    25.7%     alt.sex.pictures (4.6)
  17  2987.4      63      7.88  0.6%    26.2%     alt.binaries.pictures.tasteless (3.7)
  18  2897.0     605      7.64  0.5%    26.8%     alt.activism (1.9)
  19  2894.5     426      7.64  0.5%    27.3%     misc.activism.progressive (1.0)
  20  2810.4    1718      7.42  0.5%    27.9%     alt.sex (2.3)
  21  2758.2    1250      7.28  0.5%    28.4%     rec.humor (1.9)
  22  2617.7     928      6.91  0.5%    28.9%     talk.religion.misc (4.0)
  23  2612.5    1802      6.89  0.5%    29.4%     rec.sport.football.pro (3.1)
  24  2581.8    1662      6.81  0.5%    29.9%     rec.arts.tv.soaps (4.2)
  25  2549.1    2189      6.73  0.5%    30.4%     rec.motorcycles (4.2)

$ Cost is the cost of sending it over a Trailblazer to UUNET, using the 
800 number and Night rates. (1000 characters per second and $9.50 per hour)
I.e .264 cents per kilobyte
Newsgroups: news.lists
From: ali@simdiv1.mentorg.com (Ali Haveliwala)
Subject: CFV: rec.arts.poems.urdu
Followup-To: poster
Organization: MGC; Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:52:46 GMT

**************************************************************************
		CALL FOR VOTES: rec.arts.poems.urdu
**************************************************************************

	Charter:
	This group will serve the needs of all people within the Indian sub 
	continent that have a interest in the Urdu Language and its rich 
	poetry collections. This group is open to all having interest in the
	style, form, and rhythm of urdu poetry.
	
	Will be a forum of discussion for Urdu ghazals/shayris and 
	interpretations.

	Will be a forum to discuss urdu usage and its impact on arts/poetry 
	within the subcontinent

The group will not be moderated.


Please cast yes or no votes for the creation of the group to the following
address:

		ali_haveliwala@mentorg.com

Please cast each vote as an explicit yes or no for the creation of the
			    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
group. Any ambiguous/cryptic votes will be disqualified.

The voting period begins on October 16th 1992 and will end at the end of
21 days on Nov. 5th 1992. Only votes received at the e-mail address given above
prior to the Nov 5th. 1992 date will be counted.
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.child-support,alt.dads-rights,alt.abortion.inequity,misc.legal
From: ajchien@med.umich.edu (Alexander J. Chien)
Subject: CFV: rec.sport.table-tennis
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Michigan - Medical Center
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:53:03 GMT

Call for votes :
 
     Newsgroup:  rec.sport.table-tennis

     Type:  Unmoderated

     Duration of vote:  12:00AM October 15, 1992 to
                        12:00AM November 15, 1992
 
     Procedure:
 
             Please e-mail all votes to:
 
                      ajchien@med.umich.edu
 
             with the clear statement of either:
 
                  YES  for the creation of rec.sport.table-tennis
                                or
                  NO   for the creation of rec.sport.table-tennis
 
             All votes not directly sent to the above 
             address will not be counted.  In case of
             vote changes, the last vote sent by an
             individual will be counted, and previous
             votes will be rendered null and void.



The following is a copy of the original RFD:
> 
> Request For Discussion
> 
> Proposed Newsgroup: rec.sport.table-tennis
> 
> Type: Unmoderated
> 
> Charter: The purpose of this newsgroup is for an open discussion pertaining
>          to subjects involving the sport of table tennis. Included subjects
>          would be: tournament results, upcoming tournaments, equiptment,
>          coaching, etc...
> 
> Discussion: Further discussion on forming this group should be posted to
>             the 'news.groups' group. Interested parties are welcome to email
>             ajchien@med.umich.edu
-- 
|      ___                         |                              |
|     /   \      "Loop to Kill"    |      Alexander J. Chien      |
|    |     |        Olympic        |      ajchien@med.umich.edu   |
|  O  \___/\     Table Tennis      |      University of Michigan  |
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Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.grous,rec.games.mud.misc,rec.games.mud.lp,rec.games.mud.diku,rec.games.mud.tiny,rec.games.mud.admin
From: Joel Furr <FURRJK@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: RFD: rec.games.mud.logs moderated and rec.games.mud.logs.d
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg VA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:51:38 GMT

I would like to propose two new newsgroups in the rec.games.mud hierarchy,
specifically, rec.games.mud.logs and rec.games.mud.logs.d.

For the benefit of those of you who don't MUD, MUD means Multi-User Dungeon,
although many MUDs do not have dungeons and aren't about combat.  Specifical-
ly, MUDs are virtual reality games on the Internet, in which characters meet,
fight, talk, adventure, build, program, etc.  This sort of game is serviced by
the rec.games.mud hierarchy, which includes:

rec.games.mud.misc        discussion of muds in general, etc.
rec.games.mud.lp          discussion of lp-muds (combat and adventure)
rec.games.mud.diku        discussion of diku-muds (combat and adventure)
rec.games.mud.tiny        discussion of Tiny muds (socializing and building)
rec.games.mud.admin       discussion of mud administration
rec.games.mud.announce    moderated announcements regarding muds

What I propose is an addition of two newsgroups, rec.games.mud.logs and
rec.games.mud.logs.d.  The former would be a moderated newsgroup, for posting
of logs of activity from any sort of MUD.  The latter would be a place for
discussing said logs.

Hence this CFD at present consists of a proposal for two groups, one moderat-
ed, the other not.  I have a moderator in mind for the moderated group: Jim
Miller (jgm@ais.org).  I feel that Jim, an expert at Secret Ninja Logging in
his own right, would be the ideal person to maintain the moderated group and
keep it on track.  Plus, with all the time Jim spends idling on various muds,
I'm sure he'd have the time to do the work.

Since logging of MUD activities has become a popular activity in its own right
and has sparked much discussion, I think that rec.games.mud.logs and
rec.games.mud.logs.d would be a good idea, so as to give everyone who MUDs an
opportunity to read and discuss logs of mudding activity without having to
belong to all the lp, diku, and tiny newsgroups.

Followups to news.groups.
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Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk,comp.admin.policy,alt.society.civil-liberty,soc.college,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk
From: Jyrki Kuoppala <jkp@cs.hut.fi>
Subject: CFV: comp.society.acad-freedom.{news,talk}
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:52:33 GMT
Reply-To: acad-freedom-vote@niksula.hut.fi

This is a CALL FOR VOTES for the creation of two new newsgroups for
discussions and news on academic freedom on computers and networks.
The RFD was first posted on 1 Sep 1992.  The last day to vote is 10
Nov 1992.

The groups currently exist as alt groups.  The alt versions of the
newsgroups have estimated July readership of 29000 and 9000.  (The
readership can be expected to increase as the Fall term starts in many
places.) About 390 folks get various versions of the mailling list.

Charters:

Purpose: To discuss questions such as: How should general principles
of academic freedom (such as freedom of expression, freedom to read,
due process, and privacy) be applied to university computers and
networks? How are these principles actually being applied? How can the
principles of academic freedom as applied to computers and networks be
defended?


comp.society.acad-freedom.news	News concerning academic freedom, moderated

CAF-News - The best notes from CAF-Talk as selected and abstracted by
a moderator. (Moderator to be Carl Kadie, kadie@eff.org.)


comp.society.acad-freedom.talk	Discussions on academic freedom

CAF-Talk - A free-speech forum focused on, but not limited to, these
issues.


In order to vote for or against the newsgroups, you must send a mail
message to the address acad-freedom-vote@niksula.hut.fi.  Replies to
this announcement are directed to that address.

Example vote lines to be put in the body of the message are:


YES for comp.society.acad-freedom.talk
NO  for comp.society.acad-freedom.talk

YES for comp.society.acad-freedom.news
NO  for comp.society.acad-freedom.news


Posted votes will not be counted.  You may vote on just one of the
groups or both.

Votes will be acknowledged in the newsgroups this CFV is posted to.

Please see the pertinent postings in news.answers and
news.announce.newgroups for the rules that will be followed in
creating a newsgroup.

//Jyrki
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups
From: Jim Kirkpatrick <JIMKIRK@corral.uwyo.edu>
Subject: RFD: rec.crafts.metalworking
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: uwyo.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:57:11 GMT

This is a request for discussion on the creation of a newsgroup
for metalworking.

Group Name
----------

        rec.crafts.metalworking

Status
------

        Unmoderated.

Rationale
---------

        In a sense, the group already exists, as trial.rec.metalworking.
        However, the "trial" method of newsgroup creation has been more
        or less abandoned, leaving no method to simply rename the existing
        group.  It should also be pointed out that the trial hierarchy is
        not carried by many sites, limiting the availability and participation.
        Thus, it is proposed to simply create a new newsgroup from scratch.

        This group would be for discussion of all aspects of metalworking,
        both at the home shop level and, potentially, at the industrial
        and production level.  It would be, in a sense, a metallic
        counterpart to the popular rec.woodworking newsgroup.  There is
        no intent to compete with rec.woodworking, but rather to complement
        it (some people in the woodworking list have in fact expressed an
        interest in creating rec.crafts.metalworking to discuss tool shaping
        and related topics).

        Thus, this is not a splinter group from an existing newsgroup, but
        a new group to address an audience already partially in place via
        the trial group.

Charter
-------

Proposed Charter -- REC.CRAFTS.METALWORKING

The USENET newsgroup, rec.crafts.metalworking, is a newsgroup which discusses
various aspects of working with metal, such as (but not limited to):

  machining, as on a lathe, milling machine, grinder, etc.;

  numerical control of such machines;

  welding, whether by gas, arc, mig, tig, thermite, or other methods;

  casting various metals by various methods;

  hardening/tempering various metals;

  blacksmithing/forging;

  spinning and hammer work;

  sheet metal work;

  jewelry-making;

  purchasing and/or reconditioning metalworking tools and machinery;

  interesting projects;

  books on metal technologies and history;

Example areas of interest:

  knife/sword making;

  automotive repair;

  steam engine (model/scale, though full-sized discussions are welcome!);

  art work, such as bronze castings and sculptures;

  gunsmithing;

  toolmaking, such as for woodworking, further metalworking, etc.;

While the bulk of the discussion will probably be directed towards
small-scale "home" shops, industrial/production discussions are also
quite welcome.

Discussion
----------

Comments on this proposed new newsgroup should be posted to the USENET
newsgroup news.groups.  If the reader is not able to do so, comments may
be e-mailed to me at the address below, and I will post them.

Voting
------

If no problems arise, voting will start one month from the posting date
of this RFD.

Jim Kirkpatrick
jimkirk@corral.uwyo.edu
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,sci.aeronautics,rec.aviation.misc,rec.travel.air,rec.aviation.simulators