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Subject:      Re: This !@#%$@ definition thing...

Tim and Kenn are on to what I perceive as a big problem in what
is often called "the" feminist movement, or "the" feminist
position.  That is, as they point out, that there probably IS
no such thing as "the" feminist position, and there is probably
no such thing as "the" prototypical feminist.
        One example of where this is evident is in the debate
over pornography--an issue that some outsiders speculate
"broke" _"the"_ feminist movement.  The "break" is seen in the
two seemingly polar positions that have be made in the
arguments about pornography.  One camp, the anti-pornography
camp,represented prototypically by feminists such as Dworkin,
argue that pornography is harmful to others, and as such,
should not be tolerated AT ALL, just as murder, brutality, and
torture are not tolerated.  Some theorists pigeon-hole those
professing this approach as "separatist" feminists, not unlike
the "separatist" blacks, of which a prototypical example (at
least during one part of his lifetime) was Malcom X.
        The other end of the spectrum consists of those who
assert that freedom of speech and of the press is violated in
banning of pornography, and that the correct approach to take
towards these materials is to educate those who might come in
contact with them as to their damage potential.  Then, let each
choose his or her own--to indulge, or not to indulge in the
consumption of pornographic material.  I've seen theorists call
those professing this approach "humanist" feminists, and I
consider myself, and my definition of feminism, an example of
this "type."
        Believe me, just as African Americans in this culture
have not, to the best of my knowledge, ironed out one single
and unified approach to making their case known to the white
majority, and to ameliorating inequity, neither have women in
any way, unified in how and what it means to be a "feminist."
More than once I have dropped out of "feminist" reading groups,
"feminist" workgroups, etc., because I personally was
uncomfortable with the "testing" that went on--(something like
"I am more feminist than thou" games).  That kind of testing
did not meet my definition of feminism--but I _do_ understand
where it comes from, and I think I recognize the same kind of
testing in other groups of minorities trying to organize
themselves (often _against_ a real or perceived oppressor).  It
is important in these situations sometimes to know that
everyone is in the same camp.  And it serves as an exercise in
self-definition--important for folks trying to throw off the
definition that a majority culture has put on them.
        At any rate, it is not a neat, clearly definable
approach to life, the universe, and everything--feminism, that
is.  And that's been nicely demonstrated in this discussion!
--Kathy Morgan
kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet
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"the VMH (ventromedial hypothalamus) seems to be involved in brown fat
regulation... hence metabolism"  HUH?  Where in the brain is there fat
(besides myelin)?  I have heard many functions attributed to the vmh
but this is a new one.  To my knowledge, fat metabolism is controlled
by the glucocorticoids (adrenal gland) and the only way the VMH may
control this is via CRF (corticosteroid releasing factor), but I
think this comes from the periventricular hypothalamus (correct me if
I'm wrong).
M. Joppa
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Special needs kids...

A couple of thoughts.  First, I totally sympathize with parents trying
to cut through the red tape to get their kids needs met.  I've been working
with the Children's Defense Fund for several years, and unfortunately,
in the states, this is an all-too common story.  I would refer anyone
seeking legal or educational advocacy to give CDF a call: 202-628-8787.
They're a wonderful resource.  Also, your state congressman or senator's
office are often willing to help.  Also, the Child Welfare League of
America 202-638-2952 has a comprehensive of pro bono legal advocates
for child-related problems.

Second, the passage of the Americans with Disabilities Act brought with
it sweeping reforms in "minimal" service provisions.  I'd check with
your national congressman's office.

Kenn "I'm-really-a-nice-guy" White
kwhite@wam.umd.edu
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Subject: Re: Internships: another hoop to jump...

Is it possible to send this aryti   r ticle to the list? I know of few who
would like to read it.  Thanks
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From:         Jason Evan Mihalko <WC5BB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Psy.D. Programs?
              21 Nov 1992 17:36:33 -0500 from <mworden@NEUROCOG.LRDC.PITT.EDU>

On Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:36:33 -0500 Mike Worden said:
>Howdy,
>I've got a friend with no net access who's interested in finding programs which
>offer a Psy.D. in clinical or phenomenological psych.  If you know of places
>offering such a program (I'm a cog. neuroscience type so this is a bit beyond

     Off hand I can only think of the California School of Professional
Psychology (A huge school that has a good reputation for putting out
clinical psychologists) and the the Chicago School of professional
psychology.  I know of a couple of people at both schools.

Jason Evan Mihalko
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Subject:      Re: departmental sex (subject for gossip? NOT!)

Matthew,
        I must disagree (I think) with some of what I think you were
trying to say.  The "gossip," however sordid, can be an important
source of information.  For example, in my program, the chair of our
psychology grad student association (I'll call her "X") went to a
formal meeting with our department chair (I'll call him "Y"), to
discuss a complaint of discrimination made by a fellow grad student
("Z") in her treatment by a professor in our department (I'll call him
"STATPROF").  Well, advocacy on another student's behalf is well within
the job description of the title held by X at that time, and she had
made a FORMAL APPOINTMENT with Y to discuss Z's case.  She even took
along the secretary of said association .  In this discussion, the
chair asked X why the subject of Z's performance in STATPROF's class
was of any interest to X, since "everyone knows that the way YOU passed
this class was by sleeping with STATPROF."  He asked her that in front
of the association secretary, without batting an eye.
        How do I know that this happened?  X told me.  The secretary
told me.
        What good does it do me to know this?  Well, first of all, it
informs me of how my department chair handles complaints, of what he is
likely to think and do about complaints of sexual harrassment, and of
how he obtains HIS information about what is going on in his department
(X did NOT sleep with STATPROF, in case that needed to be said).
        So, bolstered with this knowledge, one can be more choosy in
how and to whom one presents a complaint--among other things.

        Secondly, we too have students dating students (damn, at times
it seems like a veritable square dance of exchange!).  And we have
several profs who have married students.  In at least one case, that
has been a problem--when one of the most powerful members of the
department married a grad student, prior to her coming up for any
exams.  This situation made for an interesting melee, as other
department members hemmed and hawed over who would be on her
examination committees, etc.  It made for some uncomforable feelings,
perhaps unjustifiably, but nonetheless real.
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>
> Any social students out there know of any good sources that
> discuss in detail the "fundamental attribution error"?  I'm delving
> into this literature for part of a class project and it's
> all new to me.  Thanks.
>
> Matthew Prull
> prullm@cgsvax.claremont.edu
>

Try Fiske and Taylor's Social Cognition text. They have a pretty good
definition of the topic.

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From: psy9wml@CABELL.VCU.EDU (Walter M. Lakey)
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Subject: re: "stud dog muffin"
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Kenn
    I guess i understand from the context what it is, but what might
the derivation of "stud dog muffin" be?

walter ;-)
psy9wml@cabell.vcu.edu

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Subject: Another Request for help: Applied Social Psych

Hi!
        I have a student here who is looking for applied social psych
graduate programs on the west coast.  He is interested in AIDS and AIDS
prevention, particularly from a cross-cultural perspective.  Any
suggestions to narrow his search from 3,000 miles away would be great!
        Thanks!
        --Kathy Morgan
        kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet
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Subject: re: departmental sex (subject for gossip? NOT!)
              92 2:37 pm

>
> Matthew is right! Besides which we have too much to do to be sticking our
> noses into other people's business. Who cares wo is dating who or what!
>

True, true.  However, it has been my observation (personal) that some
of the worst gossips are my professors!

My .02

SF

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From:         "Matthew Simpson" <054340@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Psych assessment by MDs

On Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:44:32 -0500 <20SSMITH@GALLUA> said:
>Matthew are you sure about this!  Wow I had no idea this was so.  I
>thought that the APA ethics were pretty much the last word on who could
>do psychological assessment and refer to themselves as a psychologist.

Woa!  Wait a minute and re-read what I wrote.  I wrote that the word
"psychologist" *IS* a regulated word.  As far as I know, "psychological
assessment" is not; neither is psychotherapy.

>I'll have to look into this more deeply.  If that is the case it really
>blows me away.  Besides that the publishing companies send you through all
>kinds of hoops to purchase certain instruments and one of those hoops
>is the doctorate in psychology, that is also what lead me to believe testing
>was not open to any and every one who could get their hands on the materials.

Well, what you are saying is that not everyone can get their hands on the
materials.  So what I say is valid.  Given that a person has legal access
to the assessment instruments, they can use them.  Think about all the
folks who administer the WAIS-R, the Meyers-Briggs, the TAT.  Are these
people all psychologists?  I think we would find alot of social workers,
psychiatrists, nurses, people with degrees in education, etc. doing the
administration and the scoring.

What makes us think we have the corner on the market?
Criteria for filing for third-party reimbursement is another topic all
together, yet not unrelated.

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From:         Tim Tumlin <UFTRT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Discrimination

Kathy,

Yes, I see why you want this definition, but I'm confused over why it would
inform you as to whether you should be insulted.  After all, the label alone
is not really that important.  I would gather the same thing would apply to
environmentalists.  I, for one, am a member of the Sierra Club; I'm not sure
I refer to myself as an environmentalist but I'm in that direction.  If you
said environmentalists take themselves too seriously and are humorless and
some of them even acted nuts, I'm not sure I would necessarily take umbrage
with that, even though a lot of environmentalist-types are definitely
more reasonable than others.
  I technically erred in making references that indicated all feminists
shared certain traits, since one can't say anything about everybody in
one class except that they're members of the class. Secondly, this is a
simplified notion that there is one class or level or type of feminist;
a more accurate portrayal, since this is getting so much attention, might be
types of levels of persons in regards to gender issues and the way they
deal with them. If you have to wait for my definition to decide if you're
insulted, I think it's too late.
Tim
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Subject:      Another EOG resource

Here's another ref on EOG and other psychophysiological techniques:

        Andreassi, J. L. (1989).  Psychophysiology:  Human Behavior and
Physiological Response. (2nd ed.).  LEA:  Hillsdale, NJ
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Subject:      Re: Tolerance

Tim, do you ever listen to yourself?  You are beginning to sound like
a dumb joke.  Jennifer

P.S. I know that I should be sending this to you personally rather than
over this very public media but frankly, this definition stuff is getting
real old. Maybe putting this out over psycgrad will make it all GO
AWAY!  I got 60 mail messages today - as I'm sure everyone else did.  I
want to be able to read all of them but running through "how do you
define gasket" is irritating and time consuming and hardly worthy of the
attention and intellectual consideration of graduate students.  I know that
you are not entirely to blame for the rather trivial nature of some of these
discussions but stop trying to get the last word in when you KNOW that your
ideas are hurtful.  When you so obviously provoke people, it makes me
sick.  And by the way, Hitler improved the economic conditions in Germany.  I
wouldn't call him an altruist.
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From:         Tim Tumlin <UFTRT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Adult ADD
              16 Nov 1992 01:50:00 -0500 from <lindberg@PSYCH.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU>

Nangel,
I'm not really a child-clinical person and can't speak with much
authority.  On the other hand, that never stopped me before ...
  It's not a case of misdiagnosing ADD, but that the biopsychosocial
elements that cause ADD later lead to other things.  THere is apparently
a clear bio element, as ADD (ADHD, actually) is linked to tic
disorders later in some people. Also, consider the social implications
of being ADHD if you're not correctly diagnosed (Hide your eyes,
Matthew, you didn't see this reference to diagnoses) so they're seen
as just trouble-making kids who can't get enough thrills. That alone
would help lead to an anti-social type, but real anti-socials seem
to often have a strong physio element.
   There is research that this arousal level and the need for further
arousal figures in a lot of pathology such as alcohol and other drugs
for self-medicating, and thrill-seeking behavior.  If you think in terms
of initial values in which one's arousal system shapes one's behavior,
self-concept and environment over 15 or 20 years, you can see how someone
who is hyperactive and not well managed or understood winds up with an
awfully difficult personality.
Tim
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CBT for children

Robin,

Not sure if these are exactly what you were looking for, but they are
seminal articles in CBT:


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AUTHOR(s):       Baer, Ruth A.
                 Nietzel, Michael T.
TITLE(s):        Cognitive and Behavioral Treatment of Impulsivity in
                   Children: A Meta-Analytic Review of the Outcome Literature.


           In:   Journal of clinical child psychology.
                 DEC 01 1991 v 20 n 4
         Page:   400

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AUTHOR(s):       Kazdin, Alan E.
                 Bass, Debra
                 Siegel, Todd
TITLE(s):        Cognitive-Behavioral Therapy and Relationship Therapy in
                   the Treatment of Children Referred for Antisocial Behavior.


           In:   Journal of consulting and clinical psychology.
                 AUG 01 1989 v 57 n 4
         Page:   522

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AUTHOR(s):       Kendall, Philip C.
                 Reber, Mark
                 McLeer, Susan
TITLE(s):        Cognitive-Behavioral Treatment of Conduct-Disordered
                   Children.

           In:   Cognitive therapy and research.
                 JUN 01 1990 v 14 n 3
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From:         Monika Trzcinska <054470@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Monika T.
              18 Nov 1992 21:29:00 PST from <lindberg@PSYCH.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU>

Nangel,
It is difficult to tell you how my name is pronouced over e-mail!!!!
And I do not think that trying to phonetically spell it would help.
Just say "TRZCINSKA" :-)


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Hi all,
I was born in Portugal and my accent and english is not as good as i would
like. Some lectures say that i speak and write portuenglish but they are
very helpful and encouraging me to correct my english all the time.
But what is your impression about lecturers or professors from foreign
countries? I don't feel that i have prejudice against people from other
continents but some societies seem to develop antagonism towards other
people. They express these feelings in a very interesting way. For instance
people from the indian sub-continent have a way of behaving which i find very
stressful. As they develop in a cast society when they arrive to europe,
in particular those who have ph.d.'s, think that they are above all those who
do not have the same qualifications as them. It seems to me that a lot of
prejudices one may develop towards certain people may be because they already
have them. The question then is; are we negative towards these people because
we don't like their prejudices?
Bye.
Jorge
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From:         ROBERT_BROCKMAN <CDBSDUC@IUP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Psy.D. Programs?

I'm a Psy.D. student here at Indiana University of Pennsylvania, situated
in beautiful, you guessed it, Indiana, PA. We're about 45 minutes
north-east of Pittsburgh. We've been fully APA approved since day one,
which was nearly ten years ago. IUP's program is clinically focused, but
with a fairly heavy scientist bent to it also. If your friend is interested
in applying, he or she had better act quick! Give a call to our doctoral
secretary, Tammi Kellar at 1-412-357-4519.


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