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From: longo@sfpp.com (Bob Longo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How can I define a path?
Date: 20 Jan 93 23:26:40 PST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Santa Fe Pacific Pipelines

In article <1993Jan20.174005.6738@eng.ufl.edu>, zzang@stat.ufl.edu (zzang) writes:
> Hello,
> I try to define a logical name for a directory.
> for example, for direc disk$user:[zzang],
> I try to define it with name usr$dir.
> so I can use,
> dir usr$dir
> cd usr$dir:[make]
> (cd:==set default)
> cd usr$dir:[bin]
> and so forth.
> I tried:
> $define usr$dir disk$user:[zzang.]
> or 
> $define usr$dir disk$user:[zzang]
> but it didnt work.
> I cant use cd usr$dir:[make].
> 
> also the [] : and ::  in the path are magic symbols to me
> what's the use of these symbols?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> --zhuo
-- 
Try this:

	$ DEFINE usr$dir disk$user:[zzang.] /TRANSLATION_ATTRIBUTES=CONCEALED

==============================================================================
Bob Longo (longo@sfpp.com)
Santa Fe Pacific Pipelines
Los Angeles, CA
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec,misc.forsale.computers.workstation
From: olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu (Steve Thompson)
Subject: DECstations for sale
Reply-To: olin@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Cornell University, NY
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:59:44 GMT

          From: Steve Thompson
                School of Chemical Engineering
                Cornell University
                Ithaca NY 14853
                (607) 255 5573
          To:   Anyone it may concern
          Date: January 21, 1993

          Subject:Computer hardware for sale - revisited

          The Cornell University School of Chemical Engineer-
          ing has the following surplus hardware for sale. This
          equipment is currently in use, is fully functional,
          is available for immediate delivery. If you are in-
          terested in any of this equipment, please notify me
          of your offer at the above address (or via internet at
          thompson@cheme.cornell.edu) as soon as possible. (You
          may have seen this equipment advertised previously,
          along with other equipment. It was sold then, but we
          were unable to complete the sale due to problems with
          the purchasers.)

          1. DECsystem 5000 model 200 compute server.

             o  Model PM379-BY.

             o  No graphics, no monitor, no disk.

             o  8 megabytes memory.

             o  Two units available.

          2. DECstation 5000 model 200 workstation.

             o  Model PM370-BY.

             o  No monitor, no disk.

             o  8 megabytes memory.

             o  PMAG-A graphics card (monochrome framebuffer).

             o  LK201 keyboard.

             o  VSXXX mouse.

             o  Two units available.

          3. DECstation 3100 workstation.

             o  Model PM200-AC.

             o  VR260 19-inch monochrome monitor.

             o  16 megabytes memory.

             o  LK201 keyboard.

             o  VSXXX mouse.

             o  Two units available.

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Steve Thompson, System Mangler   Internet: thompson@cheme.cornell.edu
School of Chemical Engineering   Bitnet:   thompson@crnlchme
Olin Hall, Cornell University    Phone:    (607) 255 5573
Ithaca NY 14853                  FAX:      (607) 255 9166
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From: chen@speed.uucp (Lilei Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Problems with EXABYTE tape drive
Keywords: EXABYTE
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:43:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1993Jan26.144354.15050
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

Yesterday I talked to the dealer who sold us the EXABYTE drives.  First he
tried to tell me that nothing was wrong with our drives and we were not
using them properly.  But after I told him how I tracked down the problem
to the firmware of the drive, he admitted that there was certain version
of the firmware which has the described sizing problem and the EPROMs in
our drives are obsolete although the drives were manufactured in April 1991.
This bogus firmware will report END OF TAPE to the host way before the real
physical end of tape.  Now comes the outrageous part, he will charge us
$200 for each update of the firmware!!!  It seems that the next problem
is inevitable.

Jim   (xue@cfaft5.harvard.edu)
From: steve@dbaccess.com (Steve Suttles)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Hitchhiker's Guide to VMS?
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:20:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: mccoy.155
Organization: Cross Access Corp., Santa Clara, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kovarski@zooid.guild.org (Mark Kovarski) writes:
: 
: Is anyone aware where this document can be obtained (via FTP)? There are some
: students that would be interested in reading it. Does someone also have FTP
: sites that specialize in VMS? Thanks.
: 
There is a list that gets posted about monthly to this newsgroup...watch for
it.

You won't find Hitchhiker's Guide on an FTP server.  It is a for-sale
publication of the former Professional Press (AKA the Carl and Dave show).
These guys put out DEC PROFESSIONAL, VAX PROFESSIONAL, and their premier
publication, RSTS PROFESSIONAL (I had volume 1 issue 1, once upon a time).
Carl has apparently just sold out to a bunch of <perjorative term deleted>
whose name I don't have.  I just discovered that I have lots of old DEC PROs
laying around and tossed all the new ones.

However, I still don't think they'll give away their farm.  And there's nothing
(absolutely NOTHING) on that particular farm that isn't also in the big grey
wall.  I read the Hitchhikers Guide, and while it is more entertaining, it only
presents knowledge which is readily available in the DEC manuals.

And "some students"... unless these are CS grad students with a VAX they can 
reconfigure, most of the stuff won't be useful anyways.  VMS is very careful
about requiring privilege of one kind or another to even look at the O/S space.

sas
-- 
Steve Suttles                Internet:  steve@dbaccess.com      Dr. DCL is IN!
CROSS ACCESS Corporation     UUCP: {uunet,sgiblab}!troi!steve  Yo speako TECO!
2900 Gordon Ave, Suite 100   fax: (408) 735-0328              Talk data to me!
Santa Clara, CA 95051-0718   vox: (408) 735-7545   HA! It's under 4 lines NOW!
From: JONESD@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (David Jones)
Subject: Re: "Beat the Buzzer" Game?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:53:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.122713.84@iwsd01.itwol.bhp.com.au>, webosk@iwsd01.itwol.bhp.com.au writes:
>
>I would like ideas to achieve the following:
>- a program which is easily configurable (at runtime) to send messages to
>  my terminal, and *only* my terminal (there will be other users on the
>  system).
>- a way of disabling nuisance messages until I am ready to receive them,
>  and to prevent a user sending multiple messages by holding his finger on
>  the button.
>- ensuring that the first person to press his button really *is* the first
>  to get through to my terminal.
>
>Are there better methods than using $BRKTHRU (e.g. Common Event Flags and
>Global Sections)?

Write 2 programs:

    Program A creates a mailbox and assigns a system logical names to it.
    It then reads messages from this mailbox and echos it to sys$output.

    Program B assigns a channel to the mailbox created by program A and
    sends a message when the button is pushed.  User of program B needs
    no privileges.


If you want to throttle the rate a which program B sends messages, you
can rig something up with the lock manager.



David L. Jones               |      Phone:    (614) 292-6929
Ohio State Unviversity       |      Internet:
1971 Neil Ave. Rm. 406       |               jonesd@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu
Columbus, OH 43210           |               jones-d@eng.ohio-state.edu

Disclaimer: A repudiation of a claim.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: karin@zach.fit.edu (Karin Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: MEMFUL on large arrays
Summary: comp.os.vms
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:09:35 GMT
Followup-To: karin@zach.fit.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

Howdy fellow netter,

I have a friend who wants to run a program that has large arrays. He hasn't
been able to get beyond linking the darn thing.  His declaration section
reads as follows:

     COMMON X(2400,2400),A1(2400,2400),A2(2400,2400),WT(5,2400),
     & XT(2400,2400),D(2400),XMEAN(2400),SUM(2400),SD(2400),DT(2400)
      CHARACTER*15 IN(12),OUT1,OUT2

When he tries to link, he gets the following messages:

%LINK-E-MEMFUL, insufficient virtual address space to complete this link
-LINK-E-NOIMGFIL, image file not created

When I looked in the HELP on ERRORS subtopic MEMFUL, I found the following:

       Explanation: Your virtual address space is not large enough to
       complete the link.

       User Action: Either increase the virtual address space available
       or decrease the size of the image. You can decrease the size of
       the image by (1)  using shareable images or by (2) encouraging
       demand-zero compression if the image contains large data arrays.

I'd like to know where in the grey wall I can find out more information about
demand-zero compression.  I have looked in a couple of places, but came up
empty-handed.

Any help would be appreciated.

-- 

 .-.|     |    |     | |    /------------------\   Karin Nicholson
 |  |-..-.|/.-.|-..-.|*|/  < karin@zach.fit.edu >  VAX Sys Mgr @ Florida Tech 
 `-'| |`-'|\`-'| |`-'|||\   \------------------/   Florida Space Coast LUG Chair
From: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Anyone doing a LAVC over T1
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:49:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Spike Burkhardt, spike@lmsc.lockheed.com, writes:

>Hello!  I need to know if anyone is running a LAVC cluster over a T1
>link?  If so could you please tell me about your experiences.  If possible,
>perhaps send me a phone number so that we can have a more interactive
>dialogue.

I set one up just to see if it would work for a few days.  It was, shall
we say, SLOW.  Also had a little bit of LAT traffic on the same T1.

According to a recent issue of DN&R, DEC will support running a cluster on 
a T3 "this summer ('93)" -- I'm assuming this to mean something like their FDDI 
clusters, where the machines can shadow disks back and forth, etc.  If so, I 
would imagine you'd want a dedicated T3.

The main problem you might have is if other traffic on the T1 takes up too
much bandwidth, processes on your nodes may go into RWSCS trying to coordinate 
locks across the cluster.  Same problem if you plan on backing up files over
the T1 (or, in fact, over any Ethernet line - it can put quite a hit on your
Ethernet).  If you can contain the other traffic, and your own traffic (or 
prioritize your traffic over the other LAT or TCP/IP stuff on that T1) you 
might be able to do it.  Your overall distance between nodes may cause 
VAXcluster state transitions, which aren't pretty if you suffer too many in too 
short of a time.

-Dan Wing, dwing@uh01.colorado.edu or wing_d@ucolmcc.bitnet (DGW11)
 Systems Administrator, University Hospital, Denver
From: miket@adiron.UUCP (Mike Tollerton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VAX 8650 & PCA question
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:29:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: PAR Technology Corp., New Hartford NY

I've been tasked to install PCA on a two node cluster of 8650s running VMS
5.5-2.  We got a temporary license for PCA from the local DEC rep, and pulled
the software and manuals from the CD-ROMs.  According to the docs, PCA requires
DECwindows MOTIF, but we have no reason for DECwindows, except to satisfy the
PCA link requirements at install time.

I tried to just install the DECwindows shared images that PCA complains about
not having at install time, but that failed miserably (pretty much as
expected).  Unfortunately, I can't run any of the DECwindows installation
without having a license registered and loaded.  That's a pain, but its also a
different subject :)

I'm still looking for the temporary DECwindows MOTIF license PAK, but since my
system disk space is severely limited, I'd like some guidance on the minimum
DECwindows set that I need to get installed.  Neither the PCA docs, nor the
DECwindows docs give an answer (at least one I recognize).

Any help would be appreciated.
--
Mike Tollerton       miket@partech.com       (315) 738-0600 X-313
PAR Technology Corp  220 Seneca Turnpike  New Hartford  NY  13413
From: saskdw@marmoset.unx.sas.com (Ken D. Worsham)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: CD ROM software for VMS
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:10:30 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc
Originator: saskdw@marmoset.unx.sas.com


I posted a similar request a couple of weeks ago
and didn't get a response, so I thought I'd try
one more time.  I am interested in information
on software that will allow you to cut CD's from
VMS.  We currently have a Kodak PCD Writer 200,
which is equivalent to a Phillips CDD 521 (I've
been told) that we use from a Sun system.  We'd
like to be able to cut CD's directly from VMS
without having to move the data over to the 
Unix side and cutting from there.

If anyone has any information about CD cutting
software for VMS I would appreciate it.  I'll 
summarize and post any information I get.

Thanks in advance.
Ken


-- 
Ken Worsham
SAS Institute Inc
worsham@vms.sas.com
From: reindl@exp.bessy.de (Stephen Reindl)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VMS Version 6 - When ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:49:12 GMT
Reply-To: reindl@exp.bessy.de
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:52:58 MESZ


In article <1993Jan24.215216.12387@dbased.nuo.dec.com> lionel@quark.enet.dec.com 
(Steve Lionel) writes:
>...
>The only VMS version I can think of that ever got as high as a .7 was
>V4.7.  The units digit changes when there's a LOT of new stuff, and
>there is in V6.0.  Is there something that would require using up
>all the tenths digits?  (I must admit that I had little choice after
>releasing VAX FORTRAM V5.9...)  There never were plans for a VMS
>V5.7, and there was only brief discussion of using V5.6 for what will
>be V6.0.

And what are the new features of this system ?

=========================================================================================
Stephen Reindl						reindl@exp.bessy.de
BESSY GmbH
1000 Berlin 33 (Germany)

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor)
Subject: Re: LIB$SPAWN and privileges...
Organization: New York University
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:10:00 GMT

FYI there are things called user written system services which are 
a fair approximation to installed privileged sharable images.   They requires
special caution in writing whihc is probably why Carl did not include them.
From: leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re: Problem with editing a file. wrong charset?
Date: 20 Jan 93 13:42:21 GMT
Organization: The Internet


	We (VAX 9410, VMS 5.5, PSI 4.3) have users which use a databank on a
	VM System via x.25 remote login. They do a SET HOST/X29/LOG to the VM.

	The logfile which is produced looks very wired (or at least I don't
	know what it means. :-) ):

	If I TYPE it on a vt100, it looks like plain ASCII, but if I TYPE it
	on a VT220 or edit it (EDT or LSE) it contains only
	control-characters.

	Now my questions: - why can I type (and read) it on a vt100 but not on
                    a vt220?
		  - is there a way to prevent this wrong character set,
		    like SET HOST /qualifiers?
		  - how can one translate old logfiles of this kind to a
                    printable format (the databank inquiry was very
                    expensive, please don't say: "do it again with other
                    terminal/SET HOST setups")?

	Here is an uuencoded example:  [Omitted]

Your x.25 link seems to be configured to use 7-bit characters with even
parity.  When viewed on the VAX as 8-bit characters, the result is that about
half the characters have their top bit forced on.

The VT100 was a 7-bit terminal, usually configured to ignore parity.  It
thus ignores the top bit of the characters sent to it, and you can read the
text with no problems.  VT200's, and all subsequent terminals, are 8-bit
devices, and try to interpret the characters with the top bit on as if they
were characters in the "upper half" of the DEC MCS or ISO Latin-1 set.  The
result is nonsense.

It's been a very long time since I looked at the X.25 configuration options,
so I can't tell you how to avoid the problem the next time; but look for some
way to set either "8 bit characters, no parity", or "7 bit characters, space
parity" (which will force the top bit to 0).

The enclosed little C program will fix the log files you have now.  (All it
does is force the top bit of every character off.  You can write the same
thing in just about any language you like if you don't have a C compiler.)

							-- Jerry

/*
 * Define as foreign command FIX and use as FIX input-file output-file.
 *
 * Warning:  This is an instant hack with no error checking!
 */
#include stdio

main(int argc,char *argv[])
{	int c;
	FILE	*infile = fopen(argv[1],"r");
	FILE	*outfile = fopen(argv[2],"w");

	while ((c = getc(infile)) != EOF)
		putc(c & ~0x80,outfile);
}

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: Re: VAXC divide problems (V3.2)
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:21:01 GMT


In article <1993Jan22.060311.5226@cs.rit.edu>,
whd0675@cs.rit.edu (Walter H Dick, III) writes:
|>
|>A statement in VAXC such as:
|>
|>   i = (x + 511) / 512;
|>
|>generates ten or so instructions.  Is there anyway to get it to generate:
|>
|>   ADDL3  #511,x,R0
|>   DIVL3  R0,#512,i

Under VAX C V3.2-044, I get an ADDL3 followed by a DIVL2 for this.  How are
variables i and x declared in this program?

--PSW
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: reid@dsm.fordham.edu (Darin Reid)
Subject: The "VAX Toolbox"?
Organization: Fordham University/CLC, Division of Science and Math
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:16:42 GMT

While swishing through gopher I came a cross archives of a net.mag
called "The VAX Toolbox".  There were about 6 or 7 issues done,
edited by Bob Boag <boga@muvms1>, they were all done in 1986.

Seeing as I was still in High School at the time (and I am now a
senior in College), I never hear of it.  Anyone here remember it?
Was it a precursor of Info-Vax?  It was Bitnet only I think.
Thing is it had some pretty neat (gollly gee wow :) programs in those 
issues (for their time).  Why'd it fold?

Darin Reid

	       Internet:                       Bitnet:
       reid@dsm.fordham.edu            areid@fordmulc[.bitnet]
       areid@mary.fordham.edu
       ddreid@nyx.cs.du.edu

--
Darin Reid

	       Internet:                       Bitnet:
       reid@dsm.fordham.edu            areid@fordmulc[.bitnet]
       areid@mary.fordham.edu
       ddreid@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: ckhaake@SOMNET.SANDIA.GOV (Cheryl K Haaker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: operator accounts
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:13:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

with respect to
	Message-Id: <9301210126.AA15902@sandia.gov>
	From: CXNHJP@manadon-engineering-college.ac.uk
	
<Could anybody out there please tell me what the best way to set operator
<accounts up is, ie. should the different operators go though their own accounts,
<or should there be a common account with full privs. Is it possible to give
<privs only on request using com, exe programs without having to give the
<setprv priv initially .... ???
	
I would recommend individual accounts for each operator.  that way, you
can tell who did what.  if you enable accounting and some level of security
auditing, you can verify who did what to just about whatever degree of
detail you require.

excuse the crudeness of this posting; i'm on a unix-V system and using vi
(evidently, this is where they get the expression about 'deep sixing a file'...)
	
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
      Cheryl K. Haaker, ckhaake@sandia.gov   fts (505) 845-8462
             "Not tonight ... the cat is on my lap."
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk (Neil Readwin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How to repeat "new Mail message" ?
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:21:53 GMT
Organization: Micrognosis, a division of CSK(UK) Ltd

In article <01GTTQ24GO5U006MJF@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU>, DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing) writes:
|> >[...] many VMS-Sysops clear the screen for a Mesage-Of-The-Day-Info,
|> >before the User can enter DCLs at the "$" prompt
|> 
|> I don't get excited too often, but WHAT A STUPID THING TO DO.  A user on your
|> system has no way of validating their last-login times, and have little, if 
|> any, chance of seeing "xx unsucessful logins" messages!!!

Well, 'no way' is not strictly true. If the user wants to see these
they could still display them using the LAST_LOGIN_N, LAST_LOGIN_I and
LOGIN_FAILURES item codes to the f$getjpi lexical. Neil.
-- 
 Phone: +44 71 815 5283  E-mail: nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk
 Anything is a cause for sorrow that my mind or body has made
From: DMILLER%BSU.DECNET@MSUS1.BITNET ("Prof. David Miller")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Implementing raw I/O under VMS
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:58:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> How do I get a VT100 style terminal to behave under VMS like
> raw I/O works under Ultrix/Unix.  ie:  I want my program to
> recognize each keystroke when it is pressed, not when a return
> is entered.
>    I'm having my 2nd year students do programming projects in C
> with the objective that the same code (with a couple of #ifdefs)
> should run under DOS and Unix.  I would like to be able to add VMS
> to that list.  I've looked under SET TERM, but haven't found what
> I need.

If you send me your E-MAIL address, I'll MAIL you a Pascal program that my
students use.
                                   /-------------------\
Dave.                             ||      /\   *       ||
                                  ||    /    \  /\     ||
DMILLER@VAX1.Bemidji.MSUS.EDU     ||  /_      _\   \   ||
           or                     ||   /      \     _\ ||
DMILLER%BSU.DECNET@MSUS1.BITNET   || /__________\___\  ||
                                  ||      ||    ||     ||
Bemidji (Minn.) State University   \------||    -------/