From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: sci.econ
Subject: Re: Simplistic Analysis usually yields false conclusions (was Liber...)
Summary: well, no, he can't name names
Date: 21 Aug 92 06:41:10 GMT
 <1992Aug20.004449.3642@desire.wright.edu> <1992Aug20.151500.18561@isc-br.isc-br.com>
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Aug20.151500.18561@isc-br.isc-br.com>, steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
> In article <1992Aug20.004449.3642@desire.wright.edu> demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
...
>>> Another valid point, Mr. Wales.  Having read libertarian theory off and
>>> on for the last 25 years, or so, and having plowed through hundreds of
>>> postings here, let me suggest that much of the "flakey-ness" in evidence
>>> is adolescent rebellion finding a simplistic political philosophy that
>>> appears to justify "doing what I want" and "keeping what I get."  For 
>>
>>	Names of people who fit this stereotype?  Quotes?  Or are we to believe
>>such allegations simply because you say we should?
> 
> The purpose of the post was not to identify by name posters who fit the 
> characterization.  I was agreeing with Mr. Wales (note his comment above)
> and suggesting one source of the "flakey-ness" he cited.  Posts to the net
> are hardly an appropriate basis for determining underlying motivation, (a 
> point you should keep in mind, Mr. Stupendous Man.)  There is, however, a 
> tone to a number of posts on both sci.econ and alt.individualism that suggest 
> adherence to libertarianism reflects an immature and emotional reaction against 
> authority of any sort.  I'll leave it as an exercise for you to consider
> to whom this might apply, Mr. Stupendous Man.
> 
> To answer your question, no, I don't believe in argument from authority.
> That is a classic rhetorical fallacy.  But I find it interesting that
> you would attribute such a sentiment to me.  Do you often find yourself
> assuming that those with whom you disagree are trying to impose their
> opinions on you?  
> 
...
>>	You seem to be confusing libertarianism with drinking beer and staying
>>out all night.
> 
> No.  Adolescent rebellion can be manifested in a number of ways. I was
> only suggesting that rebellion against authority finds a congenial 
> intellectual justification in libertarianism. 
> 
>>> In short, most libertarians outgrow it. :-)
>>
>>	Well if we are to give out prizes for simplistic analysis and vague
>>generalizations unsupported by facts or reality, you win the big prize.
>>
>>	However, whether you are talking big-l or little-l libertarianism,
>>there is much more than economic concerns.  Reading the Libertarian Platform
>>might help.  Perhaps you could then bless us with some specifics.
>>
>>	It's easy to maintain one's stereotypes.  It's so much easier than
>>thinking, eh?
...
> Strikes me that your reaction is far out of proportion to the original
> post.  I never maintained that the _only_ attraction to a 
> libertarian viewpoint was rooted in adolescent identity seeking, only that
> it is a common pattern.  Your reaction suggests you took the comments
> personally.  I wonder why that might be.

	Just as I thought.  Vaporware.

Brett                                                      
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