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From: jcj@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (j.johnk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Say it ain't so;-(
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:11:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsj.1992Sep29.171132.19497
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep29.133423.8719@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 22302LMK@MSU writes:
>Calling all SB fans, lurkers, and anyone who likes the show. Now I have heard
>three unconfirmed reports since last friday, that NBC has pulled the plug on
>Santa Barbara? Is this true? Viv, I figure you or tammy would know before
>any of us would? I sent a fax off to NBC to see if I can get another response
>like before. IF the show is done, when is the last air date? Damn, couldnt
>they pull the plug on DROOL, or hell cut SB down to a 1/2 hour.........

Lisa, 
I read somewhere that there was no decision made yet and that 
it is possible that SB could be on the air until next July.
I read this about 2 weeks ago.  But I didn't hear anything 
about it being cancelled.  Boy this is a bummer.
>
>Lisa
>*holding on for a miracle*

Joyce
Holding on for the same miracle.
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From: semele@clintsalt (Semele Halkedis)
Subject: Re: ATWT: Sighva tyin' the knot
Reply-To: semele@clintsalt (Semele Halkedis)
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 12:38:37 GMT

In article <By7TRB7w165w@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US>, steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:
|> semele@oscar.bellcore.com (Semele Halkedis) writes:
|> 
|> > Will someone please explain to me why Ivabeenputtingoffgettingmarriedformonth
|> > has suddenly up and decided to marry JohnnyD?  Why was she stalling?
|> 
|> You forget that they planned to be married in LA until Iva got sick and
|> came home.

I still don't understand why she was stalling in the first place (insert
whining here).  I got the feeling that it was more than the fact that MHH
was missing.  Was it because of Aaron?

|> 
|> ]FF[
|> > 
|> > GGG
|> 
|> Saw your pic in the yearbook.  You REALLY are a GGG.  If I were only single
|> and 30 years younger...(sigh).

Steve, I've always suspected that you're a man of exceedingly good taste--
this confirms it.  :) :) :)

GGG

|> stever
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From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:12:44 GMT
Subject: Re: AMC Knitpicks
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps

>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / ljhaynes@KODAK.COM (Lisa Haynes) / 11:08 am  Sep 25, 1992 /

>As with many of you, this show is working my last nerve.  Mainly, it's because
>the writers have been SOOOOOOOOOO lazy.  Let me give some examples.
>
>First off, why, oh WHY, is Notalie still in the hospital?  To get closer to
...
>Dimitri makes me sick.  I have no sympathy for his position between Erica and
>Angel, stringing both of them along.  Erica should know better, considering
>her affair-gone-sour with Brandon Kingsley.  Angelique is supposed to be so
>self assured and independent, until it comes to "*sigh* my husband".  Then she's
>a simpering fool.  "Yes, I'll give up my friends, my life, just so I can call
>you my man.  Allow me to prostrate myself before you.  Should I genuflect every
>time you enter the room, darling?"
...
>As for Haley, Dixie, Brian, and Adam, for as much as I care, I hope they all
>fall into the ocean.  OK, maybe not Adam.  I agree with all who say Haley is
>a whiney brat.  I also agree with all who say Brian is a jerk.  And for Dixie
...

I resisted the urge to quote every line ... I agree with practically 
everything you say, Lisa.  I am especially offended by Angeliques attitude
toward Dimitri.  You stated it very well.  It *was* looking like we would 
have a great independent woman here, but NOOOOO ... apparently every woman
must have a man to be happy (unless of retirement age, like Myrtle).  I can
tell you that my BH does not *need* me ... I am happy that she likes being
with me more than without (as I feel about her) ... but she could survive
just fine if I was gone.  Please, writers, fix Angelique!!

>Lisa J  

Dave Ochs               "Would you just calm down, you're supposed to be
daveo@cv.hp.com         innocent!"  Edmund to Dimitri, breaking in on
                                    a 'business' meeting at Erica's
From: kmludvic@eos.ncsu.edu (@color(DarkViolet)@b(@large(@i(The Admiral))))
Subject: Re: SB:  Mini convention poll
Originator: kmludvic@c00381-346dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: kmludvic@eos.ncsu.edu (@color(DarkViolet)@b(@large(@i(The Admiral))))
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:58:29 GMT


Somewhere in MD(Baltimore area?)would be the best for me Pittsburgh is at
 least 12 hours from down here in Raleigh... I could never make it.
Also ... when is Martin Luther King holiday? I know some people get off for 
that and that may be a good time to have it!

Karen
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From: jcj@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (j.johnk)
Subject: Re: SB: Maybe a new home for the show
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:06:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.125321.25765@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 22302LMK@MSU writes:
>Just saw an article in today's USA TODAY here it is, "A new home for Santa
>Barbara. NBC confirmed month-long speculation Tuesday that Santa Barbara will
>leave the network in January.
>
>But that doesn't mean Santa Barbara -set in sunwashed California seaside town
>will sink slowly into the sunset.
>
>James McNamara, president of New World Entertainment Group-which produces the
>emmy winning daytime soap-says discussions are under way that could keep the
>show alive.

This is good news, lets hope it happens.

>
>"It's like a delicate Kabuki dance," McNamara says. "But I can confirm that the
>phones are burning, presentations are being prepared, action is happening."
>
>NBC's decision comes as no surprise. The network has been a distant third in
>the daytime ratings for years and Santa Barbara ranked no. 10 of 11 soaps,
>despite critical acclaim.
>
>This news adds fuel to other rumors surrounding daytime TV at both NBC and ABC.
>
>ABC spokeswoman Lisa Klausner denies that the network is headed for an all-soap
>daytime lineup, eliminating the Home show.

You know SB might do even better on a different network, move it
to a network that cares about quality not same old boring characters
that are portryaed by people who can't even act.

I just had a thought, how about if SB moved to ABC and became part of
their daytime lineup and they put it against DAYS.
I wouldn't be surprised if SB wins that timeslot.  ABC would 
probably do a better job of promoting SB anyway.
Would NBC look really stupid.  Serves them right.

>
>NBC's Pat Schultz says, "the network plans to issue an announcement regarding
>the decision's overall impact on daytime."
>
>The opening left in NBC's lineup could make room for Days of our Lives spinoff
>Manhatten Lives, starring Deidre Hall, which the network has in development.

Oh sure, I would much rather spend my time watching a BORING SAME
OLD STORYLINES DIFFERENT DAY AND ACTOR SHOW than a QUALITY, INNOVATIVE
SHOW WITH INTERESTING CHARACTERS AND GREAT WRITING AND PEOPLE 
WHO CAN REALLY ACT.  (read heavy sarcasm here).

>
>
>(ed. note, as if I really like Deidre hall now on DROOL, do you really think
>she is that good to hold her own show....I think not. She is a classic bore)
>Lisa

I personally can't stand Deidre Hall anymore and I agree that she
is a real bore.  It just goes to show how dumb NBC really is.
I for one am praying that SB stays alive but on a different network.

Joyce
All opionins expressed are my own.
From: jmeranda@us.oracle.com ("Jeep")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ATWT: Re: The yearbooks are in the mail!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:21:25 GMT



>Date: 28 Sep 92 15:00:06 GMT
>From: borz@aspenhi.stortek.com (Janet Borzuchowski)
>Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
>Message-ID: <1992Sep28.150006.13847@stortek.com>
>
>Hi Wardees,
>Just want to thank Jeep, Mum2, Stever, and everybody who contributed bios to
>the yearbook.

Yes! Lets give thanks to *everyone* who helped make it the best yearbook yet!
(well, there are only 2 editions, but you gotta start *somewhere*, right??:-)

*Thanks to Mum2 for collecting, typing up and organizing all the blurbs, and 
 motivating us all to participate in the DreamTeam Yearbook. 
*Thanks to Stever for the PRIMO recepie section. (I can't wait to make
 "vegetarian-lowfat 'dirt cake'" mmmm!good! 8^) 
*Thanks to LazzzzzerJetJim for the hilarious OakdaleParentalDisclosureForm.
*Big thanks to Gilbie for the Emmy/collage section and the first page of ads,
 (and his extra financial contribution).
*Thanks to Kathi "the Amazing KaDini" Bustya for the other 2 pages of ads,
 They were all so excellent!
*And also many thanks to JoelessJo, keeper of the lists for the nicknames, and
 characters list.
*And thanks also to BabyDoll and Belfry for supplying the celebrity softball 
 pix!  

Only the DREAM TEAM crew coulda pulled this one off!

>  It turned out great!!   I enjoyed the map of Yuckdale. 
...and I hope everyone will use their callender this year. 
Last year, i goofed I forgot to allow for leap year, and after Feb28th
the callender was rendered useless :-(( This year, I think it's right.
(Mum: I can't believe you still used yours anyway...you wierdo!;-);-)

>only just begun to read about the interesting people on the Ward.
Yep. There's alot of good reading in that there book!

It's great to know everyone likes the yearbook so much. It was 
alot of fun putting it all together!

Yous guys are *all* the best!

Happy trails!
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personal to Joolee: You can't dump him?? Why not???

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From: ellon@ADS.COM (Ellon St. Croix)
Subject: Re: Y&R: How about a "Y&R FAQ"???
Organization: Wild Bill & BabyCat's House of Many Pleasures
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:28:48 GMT


mouse@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>I just wanted to say thanks for the recent posting of the
>Y&R history-to-date.  That was a LOT of work!

  Yes, I agree!!!! It was great to take a walk down memory 
  lane, as it were!  Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!!!!
 

>What I was wondering was this...  isn't there some way we
>could have a "Y&R: FAQ" available, which would give us all
>access to previous history whenever we want/need it?
>
>What do you think?


   I think this is a GREAT idea!!!!  Is anyone willing to do it?? 


Ellon
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slipping-in-the-polls,do-nothing,deficit-raising,make-less-money than 
Millie-the-White-House-dog-last-year,Quayle-loving,sushi-puking Bush!
I don't remember inviting your ass to my show!"  Arsenio Hall.
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From: trish@tronsbox.xei.com (Trish)
Subject: AMC: TAN: Flaky feed
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:23:57 GMT

I had problems with my feed the past couple of days so if anyone
responded on Wednesday and Thursday (September 30 and October 1) 
to any of my posts and are waiting for an answer could you
please send me a copy so I can answer? ;-)

Also, if any kind soul feels like sending me all the posts that
acumulated during that time period for AMC, please feel free, as I
would appreciate it greatly!! :-)

Thanks in advance.

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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Possible Alumni sighting
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:51:47 GMT

In article <x8rzwdl@rpi.edu> root@june.cmp.rpi.edu () writes:
>I was watching the tube last nite and saw a commercial for
>Steven Seagal's lastest flick, can't remember the title.
>looks just like Laurren Holly, ex-Julie Chandler (AMC)

Well, I don't know if she is in this movie, but you can be sure
to see her in "Picket Fences" every Friday nite. She is a regular.
Last Friday, she had a romance with a midget. Somewhat of a "Twin
Peaks" flavor to it...

Also, I know that ex-Yvonne Caldwell is definitely in a tv show. I think it
is on Thursday nite after The Simpsons on (our channel) 25. It
is about a radio station with only one white person (he is funny)
and an all black cast. I like the woman too who is the star of the
show. It is a fairly cleverly written show IMO (a comedy). There is
also a little kid who does like "an islander" type imitation. He
is way funny...Sorry at this time I cannot remember the name of the show,
or (at this moment) the actress' real name...

Yes, a lot of ex-AMCers are makin' it big...:-)

CAZ
From: jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Allyson Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Tad Lottery
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:41:12 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>*IF* Tad comes back, I predict it will be on or around
>10/13 - Brooke's wedding (and my birthday!)
>Val

Just a couple of questions:
How did you know Brooke and Edmund were getting married?
If they're getting married around the same time that Livia and Tom are,
does that mean it's going to be a double wedding?  And if it is, who's
going to be the ring bearer?  Will it be Terrence or Jamie, or will they
both do it?

Sorry, that was more than a couple of questions, but once I got going,
it was hard to stop.
:-)

-Jenn
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From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Subject: Re: AMC: I don't know....
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 13:56:43 GMT

In article <oemXvjy00axfA14FIP@andrew.cmu.edu> Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>HOW IS ERICA GOING TO GET TO BUDAPEST?
>
>Don't tell me by airplane, I already figured that much out.  But how the
>hell are the writers going to justify Erica going to Budapest?  I know
>she's gotta be there and I know they've gotta go (November IS sweeps
>months, after all), but I just don't get it!!

It looks as if the writers are preparing Brooke and Edmund to go to
Copenhagen ... maybe they will go to Budapest from there.  Erica may
decide to open an Enchantment office there if she gets wind that
Dim and Angel are planning a trip to Budapest.  I still have no
guesses on how Jack will be plausibly sent overseas, unless it has
to do with some other case (Turbo-Lawyer goes to Hungary!).
JMHO's!

-- 
Margaret D. Gibbs		"Practice random kindness and 
Assistant Staff			 senseless acts of beauty"
MIT Lincoln Laboratory
gibbsm@ll.mit.edu
From: mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL:  REMINDER:  Character Poll #3
Keywords: don't forget-- Rock the Vote!
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:08:29 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Ok folks, just wanted to remind you all that voting will be closed on
this latest poll on Monday, 10/5.  Don't forget to get a vote in for
your favourite characters... and least favourite!!!  

Send me email if you don't know how to vote.  

Have a nice weekend everyone.


And, for the lyric....   Nelson finally pulled it off.  Yup, he guessed
[and I do mean GUESSED! :-) ] the answer.  Honorable mention goes to
Evil Vince.

Intriguing lyric of the week:  (Send guesses via email)
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   "When you're young you find inspiration
      in anyone, who's ever gone
         and opened up a closing door...."
         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
		"Being Boring"  by  Pet Shop Boys
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From: L638615@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: AMC:  "Wonder Why..."
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 22:09:06 GMT

***************************Portion of Original Article******************
?~~? ShockWaved Shelly

Wonder Why(s):	We haven't seen B.I.A.N.C.A.?  Maybe she'll turn
		up as Amanda when Natts arrives home from the hospital.
************************************************************************
I for one, certainly hope she doesn't show up as Amanda (or anyone else).
The actress who played Bianca really annoyed me...I was so glad when
we got rid of Travis *and* Bianca all in one shot!

Just My Humble Opinion-
Kelly
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From: brs@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Blanche R. Steppe)
Subject: ATWT yearbook arrives!
Originator: brs@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:22:18 GMT


 My copy of the yearbook arrived Saturday.  Actually I just received it this
 morning (Sunday) since our mail person put it in a neighbor's box.  Anyway,
 it is GREAT!  I have scanned it and may have some comments later.  I just
 want to thank Jeep and company for a job well done.

 Nubian Princess, if you happen to read this I will be in your area this
 coming week-end and will bring the yearbook with me.  I'll send you email
 later.

     Blanche
From: rpeck@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (robert william peck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: OLTL: Update for Friday, 10/2
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:35:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.BvnyFv.58J
Distribution: usa
Organization: Indiana University

In article <BvnM2z.sA@news.udel.edu> dcannon@bach.udel.edu (Debbie Cannon) writes:
>
>Questions for Discussion:
>(1) Is Suede's fav song Billy Joel's "An Innocent Man"?
>
I'm putting my money on an innocent Suede (though, I sure do admit he is
as slimy as some of that Serenity Springs mud).  Afterall, what
direction could they possibly go with the character after he is
(inevitably) caught?  And, as Max pointed out, his "spider sense"
wasn't smiting him.  Anyother feelings on this matter?

--Bob 
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From: rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: A Redskins fan speaks out!
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:20:49 GMT

Broat -Nelson- ALL wrote:
>
>Much like Bill, I can always hang with a Skins or Cowboys fan, but never,
>never, ever with an Eagles fan! Buddy Ryan showed me the light and the error
>of my ways. :-)
>

Hmmmmmm....I don't care about the Eagles anymore, win or lose.  But I did
like Buddy Ryan!  Football is an interesting game sometimes.  But usually it
is over-analyzed, boooring affair with more hype than fun.  Especially a
Dick Vermille (sp?)/Ron Jaworski team.  My Gosh!  Talk about BOoooring
football!

Anyway, in glaring contrast, along comes the little, sputtering gnome Buddy
Ryan.  He gets rid of the pretty Vermille players, and puts his money on
some very exciting players.  He brags about how he is the best coach, has the
best team, and is going to kick everybody's butt.  He doesn't shake the
opposing coach's hand because "I just spent all afternoon trying to beat him
into the dirt!  Besides, technically it is against the rules."  When the
press trys to put him down he says "if they can do a better job, why am I the
head coach?"

He took the game and tried new things, tried new players, and gave the
boooooring Eagles some much needed life.  And the team today owes quite a bit
to him.

Now we are back to a Boooooring coach.  At least he had the sense to hang on
to the majority of the Buddy built team.

Now.  You can't hang with an Eagles fan because Buddy showed you the light.
Technically, I'm not an Eagles fan.  But I was a Buddy-Ball fan.  Does that
mean you can't hang with me?

-Rick.
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From: spira@panix.com (Greg Spira)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Next Week's Spoilers, The Cranky Edition
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:16:37 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC


And now, spoilers from a person who's quite cranky at this moment (
mostly because an attempt to put on pants yesterday ended in my back
telling me I can't walk for at least the next week or so)



Kim searches for the missing knife, but she doesn't realize that
Andrew has it.  When Phillip plays the murderer's song, Kim begs him
to stop but doesn't know why.  Lacey picks up Andre in a bar and has
really wild sex with him, but then Kim's personality comes out and,
finding herself recovering from a wild thing with this handsome but
frightening man, she is thrown into a panic.

Isabella's exit from Salem has altered everyone's lives, and Lisanne
is not happy about the way is has affected Lawrence.  Isabella and
John have a great time in Italy, but all that traveling has taken its
toll on Izzy and she develops a terrible fever and infection.  Isabella
senses she is dying but she refuses to go the hospital.  John accepts her
request and calls a priest to render last rites.  

Billie plans to buy ectasy and talk Carrie into taking into as part of
her plan to make Carrie into a "bad girl"  (Ed. Note - I wasn't watching
the show then, but didn't someone else try and get Carrie involved with
drugs years back?)  Billie is buying her drugs when she sees Bo approaching.

Carly runs into Lawrence at the Alamain board meeting, and she expects
him to fight her ecology proposals.  Is she in for a surprise?  Later
in the week, Lawrence follows Carly into a bad part of town.

Vivian is frantic when Nikki runs away.

Lawrence tells Lisanne to find out about Nikki's natural family. Lisanne
finds a woman who may lead everyone closer to the truth about Nikki's
parentage.

Roger begs Marlena not to go to New York, fearing that she will become
involved in some Manhattan Lives that never make it on the air.

Jack and Jennifer are heading home after visiting Mickey and Maggie at the
farm when they get stuck in a storm and Jennifer goes into labor.


Other news:  According to reports in today's New York Times and Advertising
Age, NBC has no interest in Manhattan Lives or any other new soap. All 
3 networks' daytime ratings have dropped 33% in the last 10 years, and NBC
is in the worst shape of the 3.  The network will add game shows in January
to replace SB, but their long term intention is to find an Oprah like show
to lead in to affiliates' talk shows in the afternoon.  Its quite possible
that the network might give up on soaps, or even daytime altogether, within
the next 5 years if they can't improve their daytime fortunes.

Greg 

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