From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.poems
Subject: Re: Buffalo, Tragedy in 8 quarters (over 2 years) / Marek
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:05:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

v131p9t3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ninstar Cybermage - Back Again from the
Mists!) doth protest too much:

>No I'm not silly.

Yeah, yeah.  This is what psychologists call the stage of denial.  Only
fair for a resident of Genessee County, New York.

>Ninstar Cybermage is an extremely symbolic title to me, 

You appear to have missed the highly charged discussion on symbolism, or
rather, the lack thereof.  If you show up in public wearing a twitty name
don't expect symbolic deference let alone decoding.

>which also happens to be a fictional character(albeit a comic-book-like one)

How art though silly, let us count the ways:  fictional, comic-book-like...

This reminds me: When I was in high school, I invented an imaginary
Elephant Biped, Oook and drew its hypothetical visible rendition for my
typing classmates' amusement.  I got a C for the class, and that was in my
senior year when everybody gives you A's just for graduating (this is
Chicago Public Schools).  Let this tale of misfortune be a fair warning to
you, Mr. Shank, especially now that you are back in school (below).

>that I write about.  Ninstar is my creation.  I flaunt him at will.
>"Back again from the mists!" refers to my return to school after a leave
>of absence while under treatment for Leukemia.

I detect that you want our sympathy for the bad luck of having leukemia, or
at least, I detect that you demand on this basis handling you in any way
different than if you had come back to school in prime of health after a
successful decade of pimping in the better Niagra Falls motels.  Sorry,
call me heart-of-stone, but I won't do it. :|

       "Everyone's got their own little story.  Haul away" -- Split Enz.

>If you don't know what you're
>talking about then shutup or put it in one of your poems!

But you are in one of my poems, Mr. Shank.  It just doesn't scan,
for neither do you.  Form follows function. I am a Bahaus poet.

>>I'm genuinely sorry you don't like me. 
>
>I don't know enough about you to like or dislike you.  I merely dislike your
>commentary.  

My commentary in turn sticks her tongue at you and, had it not been for
local ordinances, would moon you with a firm tush that makes even young girls
drool...

>Perhaps if I lived in Toronto, I would base my self worth on something
>as idiotic as a football game,

See?  I withdraw my suggestion.  Let's not waste Toronto on the likes of you.
Have you ever been to Ontario Place, or strolled on Yonge Street on a 
festive evening, or listened to any number of wonderful folk musicians in
any nunber of coffeehouses or walked in any number of safe, clean parks,
or eaten in any number of ethnic restaurants, esp. Indian?  (overhearing
strains of Urdu, notabene)?  Ah...  Toronto.

>and take the opportunity to trash others
>on the basis of their living in a city that loses the superbowl 2 years
>in a row.  Which I dunno if you'd have noticed in your ignorance.  

I'm sorry you think I am trashing Buffalo.  I think Buffalo is quite
trashed as it is.  Nonetheless, I have once upon time taken my father with
me to a Genesis concert -- it might have been the 1980 tour -- in that
dodgy auditorium of yours downtown, I forget its name.  Now, I ask you
this:  Have you taken your dad to a rock conceert in Buffalo?  A good rock
concert, too?  If I am to be said to trash anything, it is the use of
adjectives above one's head: "malicious, destructive, sodomizing..".  Like
Clint Eastwood said, a man's gotta know his limitations.  I suggest happy
adjectives, in your case.  Think of it as free color analysis.  Happy
adjectives go well with Ninstar Cybermage, the comic-book-like character.

>I know how to trash someone's poems without making it into a personal insult,
>can you say the same?

Yes.  I also know how to insult.  It's a neglected art form.  I suggest 
some Gertrude Stein, for starters.

>Anyone with an attitude like yours has no right to judge my .sig(Though I do
>plan to shorten it).  Your self importance just oozes from the page.

I have many attitudes.  A .sig is supposed to be =< 4 lines for software
reasons first and out of consideration to the reader.  Your misperceptions
just are.
--

     James Shank                                   shank@acsu.buffalo.edu
     a.k.a Ninstar Cybermage                v131p9t3@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
     ===-----=  -=-=- - --==- - -=---===   ==-===-------=-   =--------==-

Here, a gift.  Hope you choose you use this .sig -- it's much easier
on the eyes.

				-- Marek
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