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From: nick@sunburn.waterloo.edu (Nick Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: ecoles quebecoises
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:07:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.015722.15591@watserv1.waterloo.edu> schamber@watserv1.waterloo.edu (CHAMBERLAND S - BIOLOGY) writes:
>In article <4088@sumax.seattleu.edu> harrity@sumax.seattleu.edu (Daniel John Harrity) writes:
>>Qui peut me donner de l'information vis-a-vis les universites
>>en Quebec?  Je m'interesse a etudier le finance, et je ne sais
>>pas les universites qui sont bien connus pour ca.  Si quelqu'un
>>peut m'aider....
>>
>l'Universite de Montreal (UdM), l'Universite de Sherbrooke.
>
>Pour la finance, la meilleure, c'est l'Universite de Montreal. Ben, pas
>tout a fait: c'est une ecole associee a l'UdM. Ca s'appelle
>les Hautes Etudes Commerciales (HEC).
>
>En tous cas, les universites avec une bonne reputation sont l'Universite
>de Montreal, l'Universite Laval, peut-etre l'UQAM (je ne sais pas)...
>En tous cas, ce sont les 3 plus importantes en taille...
>
I thought Sherbrooke had an excellent reputation?

Nick
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
From: lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson)
Subject: Re: Canada and the U.S.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:18:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

robinson@mdivax1.uucp (Jim Robinson) writes:
> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
> >In article <1992Apr4.183354.20792@midway.uchicago.edu>, mss2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> ><
> ><Reading the net, I've gotten the distinct impression that many
> ><Canadians are dissatisfied with US citizens and the way they perceive
> ><and treat Canada and Canadians.  So I'm curious: given Canada and the
> ><US as they are, what should be changed?  What are the primary
> ><grievances against those south of the border, and how would you
> ><suggest they be addressed?
> >
> >The fact that you have to ask is one of them.
> 
> It seems to me that Mr Schiffer was asking a genuine question in good
> faith.  Obviously he is asking the question precisely because he does not
> know, but would like to learn and understand. Given that, I would have to
> say that the above reply is at best unhelpful and at worst snide. 

I wouldn't say that. I thought about this reply for awhile, and decided
it *is* saying something meaningful: One of the grievances Canadians have
against USAns is that USAns neither know nor care what Canadians think
of them.

I think this is a valid point, and is neither unhelpful nor snide.
 

-- 
lpj@hpctdls.col.hp.com
Opinions expressed are my own, but may be licensed for a nominal fee.

VOTE FOR TSONGAS -- HE'S STILL ON THE BALLOT!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:3325 soc.culture.usa:2899
From: dr36+@andrew.cmu.edu (Derek Rubinoff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Come To Uncle
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:31:39 GMT
	<SMITH.92Apr8193102@gramian.harvard.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Junior, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

regarding the New Republic:

What a great article!  I have to admit, I totally agree with it.


~!@#$%^&*()_++_)(*&^%$#@!~~!@#$%^&*()_++_)(*&^%$#@!~

	Derek Rubinoff  of Carnegie Mellon, limited.   dr36+@andrew.cmu.edu
	cosmopolitan Pittsburgh {yikes!}	
	viva one nation under a funky groove
	Yo momma's a yinser.
	
~!@#$%^&*()_++_)(*&^%$#@!~~!@#$%^&*()_++_)(*&^%$#@!~
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: bgray@uglx.UVic.CA (Bob  Gray)
Subject: Re: Comic Strips -- American Cultural Imperialism over Canada
Reply-To: bgray@uglx.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 20:58:00 GMT

  - About Lynn Johnson and her "For Better or Worse" comic strip, there are
occassional references to the family going to Winnipeg for Christmas, with
all the prairie storms.  That's just about the only reference that I've seen.
  Two other Canadian strips, off the top of my head are Chubb & Chauncy (about
two dogs) and Betty, about a housewife in Edmonton.

  Any other Canadian strips out there?


******************************************************************************
*Gino Odjick for Byng!   :-) | Bob Gray           | "The closest the Canucks *
*Kirk McLean for Vezina/Hart!| bgray@uglw.uvic.CA | have come to the Stanley *
*Pat Quinn for Adams!        |                    | Cup is Stan Smyl's jock."*
*Pavel Bure for Calder!!!!   |                    |                          *
******************************************************************************
*VANCOUVER CANUCKS - 1992 STANLEY CUP CHAMPIONS - THE BEGINNING OF A DYNASTY!*
******************************************************************************
From: pac9897@zeus.tamu.edu (SO MUCH FOR DEMOCRACY IN BRITAIN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Is Canadian Culture European or USA ??
Date: 12 Apr 92 10:28:00 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.canada
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <122186@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes...
>Well, I can assure you that Canadian washing machines are essentially
>the same as American ones!  What didn't you like about them anyway?
>I think the differences between the US and Canada are subtler than the
>things you are concerned about.  Of course, such things as the water
>pollution and the problems with renting vary greatly throughout the
>country, both in the US and Canada.

Now don't get me wrong, I complain constantly about EVERYTHING, but
US washing machines are absolutely brilliant. Massive and probably inefficient
but they don't half do a good job. Much better than those nasty
European front loading 3 article pieces of rubbish.
Mind you, chocolate, TV and bread are much better in the UK....


Philip A. Carney		On Exchange from Lancaster University,
Texas A&M University, TX	England.

**********ALL VIEWS EXPRESSED ARE MY OWN, NOT NECESSARILY THOSE OF**************
******TEXAS A & M UNIVERSITY, LANCASTER UNIVERSITY OR THEIR ASSOCIATES**********

"The lust for power is rooted not in strength, but in weakness..." - Erich Fromm

Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
From: brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton)
Subject: Re: Canada and the U.S.
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:22:28 GMT

As much as we Canadians like to harp about the differences between
Canada and the USA, the fact nobody wants to admit is that the similarities
far outweigh the differences.   We only see the differences clearly
(when we do see them clearly) because we try hard to see them.  We don't
have real differences shoved in our face all the time to compare them to.

The typical day for the typical white, middle class urban Canadian
(sadly, a remarkably close picture of the readers of this group) goes
very much the same as the day for the same sort of American.   Yeah, I
can point out differences, but for every 1 minute of something different,
99 minutes that are the same go by.

We are so interchangeable that there are 1,000,000 Canadians living in
California and nobody in California even knows it.   There aren't that
many Canadians in Manitoba!
-- 
Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,rec.autos.tech
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
From: robinson@mdivax1.uucp (Jim Robinson)
Subject: Re: Canada and the U.S.
Reply-To: robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Robinson)
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Date: 5 Apr 92 07:04:58 GMT

horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
>In article <1992Apr4.183354.20792@midway.uchicago.edu>, mss2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
><
><Reading the net, I've gotten the distinct impression that many
><Canadians are dissatisfied with US citizens and the way they perceive
><and treat Canada and Canadians.  So I'm curious: given Canada and the
><US as they are, what should be changed?  What are the primary
><grievances against those south of the border, and how would you
><suggest they be addressed?
>
>The fact that you have to ask is one of them.

It seems to me that Mr Schiffer was asking a genuine question in good
faith.  Obviously he is asking the question precisely because he does not
know, but would like to learn and understand. Given that, I would have to
say that the above reply is at best unhelpful and at worst snide. He took
the time and effort to try to learn; is it really asking too much that he
get a decent reply?

Just so that I am not accused of not practicing what I am preaching here is
a short list of perceived problems. Note that my presenting them here does
*not* imply that I agree or disagree with them.

- the US treats Canada like the 51st state
- the US practices economic and cultural imperialism wrt Canada
- the US takes Canada for granted
- the US bullies Canada wrt trade
- the US expects Canada (and everyone else for that matter) to play by its
  rules, but then changes these rules when it starts to lose
  
Personally, I tend to agree with a previous poster, the Canadian psyche
needs an "enemy" (the US), just as much as the US psyche does (was the
USSR, now Iraq and Japan).
-- 
Jim Robinson
robinson@mdivax1.mdd.comm.mot.com
{ubc-cs!van-bc,uunet}!mdivax1!robinson
From: SAMcinty@exua.exeter.ac.uk (Scott McIntyre)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Looking for Honeymoon site near Jasper
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:19:30 GMT
Organization: NeXT Campus Consultant


	I don't read this group all that often, so please respond via
email isntead of posting...

	I'm looking for the name or phone number of a place that I
visited years ago near Jasper, Alberta.  At least I think it was
in Alberta.  It was on the edge of a lake and was a campsite and log
cabin mini resort...

	it's not actually all that important that this particular place
is found, but my fiancee and I are considering going to Canada for our
honeymoon and would apprecaite any suggestions that can be made...we're
not really intrested in lots of touristy things, just a nice place where
we can be alone, take walks, maybe near mountains or a river/lake, and
maybe small drives and so on...

Any suggestions would be wonderful!

Scott
Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:3354 soc.culture.british:6203
From: maj@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Queen of Canada
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:20:03 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <neilg.703118170@sfu.ca>, neilg@fraser.sfu.ca (Neil K. Guy) writes:
> maj@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> 
>>New Zealand is shortly to issue a new set of banknotes and the Queen will
>>then only feature on one of them, I believe the $20. Australia does not
>>have the Queen on any of its banknotes.
> 
>  That's great! How about the coins and postage stamps?
> 
>  - Neil K. (neil_k_guy@sfu.ca)

She's still on all coins, but now only rarely on postage stamps : I think
this goes for oz too.
-- 
Murray A. Jorgensen                       internet: maj@waikato.ac.nz
______________________________________________________________________________
'Tis the song of the Jubjub! the proof is complete,
if only I've stated it thrice.'
Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:3497 soc.culture.usa:3008
From: madjdsad@aludra.usc.edu (Zagros Madjd-Sadjadi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Canada and the U.S.
Date: 16 Apr 1992 11:12:19 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

dave@snitor.UUCP (Dave Till) writes:

>In article <1992Apr10.092228.7657@clarinet.com> brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
>>As much as we Canadians like to harp about the differences between
>>Canada and the USA, the fact nobody wants to admit is that the similarities
>>far outweigh the differences.   We only see the differences clearly
>>(when we do see them clearly) because we try hard to see them.  We don't
>>have real differences shoved in our face all the time to compare them to.

And many Americans want to become more like Canadians -- Jerry Brown, for
example, wants to introduce universal medical insurance (YEAH!) and a 13%
national consumption tax (can you say GST?)

>We Canadians like to emphasize the differences between Canadians and
>Americans because a lot of people outside of Canada *can't* tell the
>difference between the two.

Neither can a lot of Americans... :)

>There are a lot of similarities too, but no one is claiming that there
>aren't.  Shouting "Americans and Canadians are similar!" is like shouting
>"The sun will rise in the east tomorrow!"

>>We are so interchangeable that there are 1,000,000 Canadians living in
>>California and nobody in California even knows it.

I KNOW ABOUT IT!  I AM EVEN A CALIFORNIA NATIVE!  Did you know that northern
California also wants to secede from southern California?  (SPLIT THE STATE!
SPLIT THE STATE!) :)

>I'd like to think this proves my point.

Zagros Madjd-Sadjadi
Ph.D. Program in Political Economy and Public Policy
University of Southern California

** I believe in eliminating the border as long as the United States becomes a
   province and all Americans are granted Canadian citizenship....**

"The 20th century belongs to Canada" -- Sir Wilfred Laurier
"The 21st century belongs to Canada" -- Zagros Madjd-Sadjadi (hey, if we keep
 predicting it, sooner or later it will come true!)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: robinson@mdivax1.uucp (Jim Robinson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Canada and the U.S.
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:59:01 GMT
Reply-To: robinson@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jim Robinson)
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC

iaf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Innes Ferguson) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.182046.2896@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne) writes:
>
>>In addition, both Britain and France have excluded people who were citizens
>>of their colonies from emigrating back to their home country after the
>>colonial days were over.
>
>Canadians can emigrate to Britain, work here, and qualify for
>British citizenship after 3 years.
>
>Check your facts.

I suspect Mr Thorne was referring to the citizens of Hong Kong who, by law,
do not have the automatic right to immigrate to the UK. Indeed, the
impression I get from reading about the HK situation is that Britain is
going out of its way to prevent any mass immigration to the UK from HK.
Yes, they are allowing in a small percentage (e.g., I *believe* workers in
the British government), but for the most part the UK does not want these
people.


-- 
Jim Robinson
robinson@mdivax1.mdd.comm.mot.com
{ubc-cs!van-bc,uunet}!mdivax1!robinson
Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:3261 soc.culture.usa:2853
From: harrity@sumax.seattleu.edu (Daniel John Harrity)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Canada and the U.S.
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:14:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <1992Apr7.204108.13517@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne) writes:
>
>>- the US treats Canada like the 51st state
>>- the US practices economic and cultural imperialism wrt Canada
>>- the US takes Canada for granted
>>- the US bullies Canada wrt trade
>>- the US expects Canada (and everyone else for that matter) to play by its
>>  rules, but then changes these rules when it starts to lose
>
>
>What are you really saying here?  Do you have specific complaints about how
>the U.S. reacts with Canada, or do you just want to flame?
>
>Charlie

Sorry about the previous post with nothing but my sig on the bottom....my
fault. 

Anyway, I'm curious as well.  I've heard these grievances as well, just as
I've heard those of Americans regarding Canadians.  I think people like to
spread around vague generalities without taking the time to back them up. 
And, I don't mean one or two examples....we can always find those.

If you can come up with examples of where US citizens *consistently* do
the above-mentioned, please do.  In my trips to Canada, I've found people
to be quite friendly and helpful, and others who were not.  Sound
familiar?  If you've ever travelled outside of your neighborhood it ought
to.  Simply because some Americans act one way, don't do us all the
injustice of believing we're like that, and don't do yourself the
injustice of falling for an old and hopelessly worn-out Yankee stereotype.


Daniel John Kelly-Harrity ---------| If it's not|--------- "There's nothing 
Seattle University ----------------|  Scottish, |---------  more obnoxious  
Seattle, Washington ---------------|    It's    |---------  than a double
USA 98122 -------------------------|    CRAP!   |---------  surname."

"The only way to kill an idea, is to stab a guy in the head."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: Get Ready Canada For The Next Boom 
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 17:40:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.164829.29733@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> ash@sumex-aim.stanford.edu (David Ash) writes:
>Also I don't see how the GST would have much effect.  GST money just stays
>in the country so it wouldn't seems to have much of an impact on the overall
>health of the economy.

Put seven percent on practically every consumer product in the country, and
spending decreases.  Reduce spending, economy hurts.  Very simple.  

------
Jim Cowling			|  "Ha!  Pronoun trouble.  It's not 'he doesn't
Creative Writing Department     |   have to shoot _you_ now', it's 'he doesn't
University of Victoria          |   have to shoot _me_ now'.  Well, I say he
Opinions Disassociated          |   _does_ have to shoot me now.  So shoot me
Fnord                           |   now!!"   -the immortal D. Duck
------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.british
From: neilg@fraser.sfu.ca (Neil K. Guy)
Subject: Re: Queen of Canada
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:41:24 GMT

 Hmmmmm... The old monarchy question. Well, for what it's worth, here
are my $0.02 worth.

 The monarchy is a tradition. But so was slavery. Traditions can be
valuable but are not inherently good, beneficial or desirable.

 In my opinion the monarchy is an anachronistic institution that does
not benefit Canada in any way. Monarchies are based upon what I consider
to be immoral principles - birthright governing power - which are
inconsistent with an ostensibly democratic state such as Canada. The
English monarchy continues to support the discriminatory class system
in the UK, and helps perpetuate the widening gap between the "haves" and
"have nots." In Canada the presence of a foreign ruler on our money
and in our post offices (Mrs. Windsor is not a Canadian citizen and is,
therefore, a foreigner) does nothing to help already strained relations
between English and French Canada. Sadly, many English-speaking 
Canadians have a strange sentimental fondness for the English monarchy,
and it's thus unlikely that Canada will abandon this embarrassing
colonial remnant in the near future. But I'd be extremely pleased if
we did. Maybe Canada would have the guts to act like the sovereign
state it's supposed to be. Instead we've moved from colonialism (the
UK) to neo-colonialism (the US), but that's another story...

 And, if anyone cares, I'm not anti-English. I grew up there and have
nothing much against the country or its people - just some of their
traditions which are being perpetuated here in Canada.

 So there you go. I suppose I'll be violently flamed by outraged
monarchists ("gee, they're *so* nice. The Queen wears such *pretty*
hats! They even give out *Maundy money!* How could you not like them?)
now, but isn't that part of the fun of Usenet? Hum.

 - Neil K. (n_k_guy@sfu.ca)
From: vcs_teo@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (VCS Teo)
Newsgroups: alt.legal,alt.legal.computing,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Legal Profession in Canada (2nd posting)
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:07:56 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England


Is it possible to practice as a lawyer in Canada with an English Law degree?

If no, would an English professional qualification (Bar Finals or Law Society 
Finals) make any difference ?

If there is such a thing like a "conversion course" , how long would it take
and how much would it cost?

Thanks.

you can either post it to this newsgroup or to me directly.

===victor===

email: vcs_teo@csd.brispoly.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,rec.autos.tech
From: wales@valeria.cs.ucla.edu (Rich Wales)
Subject: Re: Importing car from US to Canada -- some answers
Reply-To: wales@CS.UCLA.EDU (Rich Wales)
Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 05:29:09 GMT

Luc Bauwens wrote:

	I think the [daytime running light] rule is that cars manu-
	factured AFTER the date when the running lights requirement
	became mandatory need to be updated.  But that was not yet
	the case in 1987.

Right.  That was what I tried to say.  A car being imported to Canada
from the US is required to be retrofitted with a DRL system if and only
if said car was manufactured after November 1989.

Sorry if anyone else was confused by this part of my original post.

In my followup letter to Transport Canada, I asked if retrofits of DRLs,
km/h speedometer labels, and bilingual airbag labels could be postponed
until shortly after entry of the car to Canada (since, for example, DRL
kits are not widely available in many/most parts of the US).  I'll let
the net know what I hear back.

I added a custom-built DRL system to my '84 Honda Accord last summer,
BTW, but this is =not= something the car =must= have in order to be
imported up north.  (I get "flashed" once or twice a week, but so what.)

--
Rich Wales <wales@CS.UCLA.EDU> // UCLA Computer Science Department
3531 Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, CA 90024-1596 // +1 (310) 825-5683
From: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Comic Strips -- American Cultural Imperialism over Canad
Date: 9 Apr 92 05:42:25 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Matthew P Wiener writes:
> 
> I have heard that the NATIONAL LAMPOON's response to this for magazines
> some years back was to start including Canuck jokes and the like, and
> they had one of their comic strip artists in the back come up with the
> series about the totally brainless mountie.  They had a special Canada
> issue even.  I still remember:
> 
>         What's the capital of Canada?
>                 American.
>         What's the automotive capitol of Canada?
>                 Detroit.
>         What do you get when you cross a Canadian with a beaver?
>                 A beaver that speaks a little French.
>         What do you get when you cross a Canadian with an American?
>                 An American.
>         What do you get when you cross a Canadian?
>                 Righteous indignation.
> 

I remember this issue too, even though it was a long time ago (before I
immigrated here). I remember a comic strip about "The Frog Who Became a Prince"
(Trudeau), a number of "Pepsi" references, and, along the "righteous
indignation" line, a comparison of American and Canadian English:

        American        Canadian
        --------        --------
        Coke            Pepsi
        fuck            shit
        etc.
--
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Robert Broughton    Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca

"Moose do not have the vote so as far as most politicians are concerned
they do not count. The silent majority rarely attends public meetings and 
never writes letters to the editor. They do not demand jobs or housing. 
Regardless, I am one legislator who thinks that not only do moose deserve 
a hearing, but that specific moose questions deserve more consideration 
in our political forums." - Yukon Premier Tony Penikett, from _Another 
Lost Whole Moose Catalog_