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From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: nonstandard guitar techniques
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:07:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.123721.2999@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
cpeckham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Peckham) writes:
 
>Another 'bowing' gadget is the e-bow which Scottish rock band Big Country
>used to (still?) use.  It kind of looks like a letter 'e' and is, to the
>best of my knowledge, hand held over the strings.  A fluctuating magnetic
>field makes the strings vibrate as if bowed.  Don;t know if you can still
>get it.
>                               Chris
 
Musician's Friend has them for aound $74. I love mine!
 
Another bow is the Pirhana Bow. I have one of those too. It's a circular
shaped bow for bowing a string or two at a time.
It's made of real bow hair. Good attack, but no sustain.
 
I *don't* reccomend this one, but maybe someone else had better luck with
their's. I'll sell mine half-price + postage if anyone's interested.
 
--Eric
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Subject: Re: I STILL don't play a guitar
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 07:46:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep3.170540.16105@leland.Stanford.EDU> whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt) writes:
>In article <1992Sep03.011300.18997@slammer.UUCP> brad@slammer.UUCP (Brad Isley) writes:
>
>>Hey!  You stole my line!  I heartily agree.  Leo Fender invented it.  He named
>>it.  The name is "electric bass guitar".
>
>Um, what do you call a Clevinger, then?
>The instrument has progressed some in 40 years...
>-- 
>Steve Schmidt			<><		   whale@leland.stanford.edu
>
>"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Walt Kelly

The "bass guitar" that Fender invented is one thing; obviously a clevinger is
much more a derivative of a standup bass and therefore a separate invention.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: birdman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Christopher Kush)
Subject: Blues Scale (Re: REQS: Pearl Jam & Nirvana)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:40:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.165556.1@husky1.stmarys.ca> gen4052@husky1.stmarys.ca writes:
>I'm looking for some bass tabs for any Pearl Jam song (Alive esp.) and Nirvana
>'Lithium'

You, and a lot of other bassers can do yourselves a bigger-than-big favor by
learning the Blues Scale and the 3-3-2 eighth note pattern.

They're real easy.

Every Pearl Jam song uses the blues scale.
More than a few Soundgarden songs do.
Nirvana strays, but I heard Lithium once, and I think it's straight Blues
Scale.

In fact, why don't I teach them to you right now?

The Blues Scale:
Pick a fret (This assumes you're playing a 4 string, like me) anywhere on the
E string.  Put your index finger on it.  Call it Fret #1.  Then, in tab,
the Blues Scale is just the following (all numbered RELATIVE to your index
finger):

----------------------------------------g
---------- 1 ----- 3 -------------------d
---------- 1 - 2 - 3 -------------------a
---------- 1 --------- 4 ---------------e

That's it. 1-4-1-2-3-1-3.  Play these notes in any order.  Trust me, you'll end
up with something at least suspiciously similar to a a blues song, or maybe a
Deep Purple bassline. Play this;

------------------------------------------g
--- 3 - 3 - 1 - 3 ------------------------d
------------------- 3 - 2 - 1 ------------a
------------------------------- 1 - 4 - 1 e

And you're playing "Sunshine of Your Love."

This pattern can be moved around ANYWHERE on the neck.

The EverPresent 332 Eighth Notes:

The name says it all. Here are your quarter notes:

   !   !   !   !   | !   !   !   !   |

Aligned, here are the eighths. Emphasize the capital X's

   X x x X x x X x | X x x X x x X x |

There are, of course, variations, like 2-3-3, 3-2-3, and 3-3-3-3-2-2, (and all
its permutations, but these two tricks let you figure out 90% of rock songs. 
Listen if you don't believe me.  Especially that eighth-note pattern.

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:24:17 EDT
From: <LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: REPOST: Poll: Best album for bass

Turnout has been pretty good so far, but I'm hoping to get more
votes. The original post is below...

Please get all votes to me by noon Sunday September 6th.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

  Yes, it's the beginning of the semester, and I'm bored. So, here's a new
poll that I don't think has been done here before...
   I want to know what your favorite albums for bass playing are....which
albums contain the most inspiring performances. That's all the more specific
I'm gonna get, and you can include electric and acoustic bass guitar, or
standup bass, in any music genre.
   I believe that there will be quite a variety of albums listed, and this
poll isn't meant to find which is the 'best.' Hopefully, it will instead
provide a list of albums for all of us to keep an eye out for, and hopefully
expand our musical listening horizons. In this respect, I figured that a
'poll' was better than starting a thread, since I can compile all the
information easier and post it all at once.
   So, here's the format....Everyone out there has 10 votes to divide as they
please. i.e., 10 albums, or 1 album with 10 votes, or anything in between.
IF you really want to send more albums, list as many as you want with 0
votes and they'll be included as 'honorable mentions.' Like I said, it's not
a contest to see what's the best, it's a list that we can all draw from.

   PLEASE include album name and artist. Let me know if it is
out of print or imported, if you know, so I can advise others.

   PLEASE SEND ONLY EMAIL. I will not count votes posted if I don't
see them, and the only sure way to get counted is to mail me. If you
can't reach my node for some reason, post the votes and I'll try to
count them.

   Send all votes to LPR100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU

   If you don't like this poll, please send me a note and tell me why.


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From: marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Strings Cleaning (no pun intended)
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:52:11 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug28.221729.12426@unislc.uucp>, jes@unislc.uucp (Jon Seaman) writes:
> I used to boil my strings after every other gig.  The idea
> being to put some snap back into the tone by removing all the 
> oils and dirt from your hands that had accumulated while playing.
> This seemed to work well and was a hell of a lot cheaper than
> buying new strings all the time.   I recently switched to rubbing
> alcohol on the advice of a fellow Bassist.  He said that boiling 
> your strings reduced the temper of the metal (or some shit like that

Thanks for the advice.

> This works well also, but I`d like to hear some learned opinions
> about string cleaning.
> 
> Also is there a good midrange price set of strings that sound
> good but don`t cost a left testical?

Try out Carvin strings.  under $30 for a 5-string set and under $25 for a
4-string set.  I used to use Rotosounds and D'Addario's, but I like the way
that Carvin builds the set gauge-wise.

> Thanks in advance. 

Welcome,
Evan
From: crowe@steamers.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Crowe)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: For sale: GSP-21 effects unit
Date: 3 Sep 1992 01:01:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: crowe@steamers.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: steamers


For sale: GSP-21, excellent condition, still in the box, including manual
 
        --> $350 <--

The GSP-21 is a rack mounted guitar effects unit (Guitar Signal Processor
is where the GSP comes from).  All effects are digital except for the
distortion, which is analog.  Fully MIDI.

It includes a *very nice* foot controller, and the user interface is the
best I've seen.  You don't really need to read the manual to use the thing.

The effects include:

        64 preset sounds, and 64 user-definable sounds
        Analog distortion, 4 kinds
        Digital compression
        Digital noise gate
        Digital graphics equalizer
        Digital stereo chorus
        Digital flange
        Digital stereo delay, several kinds
        Digital reverb, several kinds
        Speaker simulator, several kinds

If you're interested, contact me at Robert.Crowe@Eng.Sun.COM

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: pdivine@unixg.ubc.ca (Patrick Devine)
Subject: MIDI Sampling Machines
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:52:04 GMT

I'm interested in getting a MIDI sampling machine to use with a sequencer on
my Atari 1040STfm.  Can anyone give me some low cost suggestions as to what
would be the best sampler to get?

I do a lot of music with tape loops and unorthadox style of making music.  So
probably a machine with a lot of gadgets would be best.

How much would the cheapest set up set me back?

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From: whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt)
Subject: Re: A couple of questions
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:16:03 GMT

Bass is definitely played one octave lower than written. I don't know about
cello, but I'm more than comfortable certain that the cello does not have
the same low range as the bass.
-- 
Steve Schmidt			<><		   whale@leland.stanford.edu

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Walt Kelly
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: lrm28@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Strings Cleaning (no pun intended)
Summary: Blue Steels work very well.
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:14:28 GMT

I can echo the notes on the Blue Steel strings.  I use the Med Light on
my acoustic and can get about 6 months of use from them.  I used to use
D'Addario D19 (Bluegrass gauge) and would get about 2 months of use before
they died.  Guess my sweat kills strings even when I'm fanatic about wiping.
I just wish they made Blue Steel bass strings with 2-ball ends for my Cort.
Right now I get decent life from GHS Pressurewound Med Light.

Anyone else using 2-ball ended strings?  Any recommendations?  Anyone...
anyone...Buehhler...Buehhler???

"Six strings good...4 strings better!"
-- 
Luke Mayercin  lrm28@cas.org  "Why does ear wax taste like it does?"
Chemical Abstracts Service is not responsible for these comments.
From: ibanez@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Modifying solid stae preamp to tube
Date: 30 Aug 92 17:02:47 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


  I have a Peavey Mega bass amp, which is solid state. I was wondering if 
a home brewed tube stage could be added onto the existing preamp. What I'm
looking to do is place a two tube gain stage just before the eq and the
rest of the preamp. I know that there are a few local companies which will
make custom preamps, but I'd like to actually use the graphic already
in the solid state preamp. I guess this might mean removing the existing
gain bit and replacing it with a tube unti. It is obvious by my use of the 
term 'bit' that I really don't know what I'm talking abouyt in technical
terms. I'm basically interested in finding out if this sounds possible and
if so, I can get someone else to do the mods.

Later;


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From: whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt)
Subject: Re: cello v bass
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 14:54:18 GMT

In article <92240.172251KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>I read here in alt.guitar.bass that a 1/2 size bass has a scale
>length of about the same length as the electric bass guitar.
>Does that mean that a full size bass has a scale length of 2x26"?
>
No, for the reason that a "full size" bass is actually only a 3/4...
I understand that they don't make 1's anymore, or something like
that.
Not only basses but cellos, violas, and violins (probably other
instruments too) do the 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, 3/4, 1 sizing thing. I don't
know what it comes from but having seen violins in most of these
sizes I don't think it's related to scale length. I've always had the
impression that it's just arbitrary, it doesn't bear any relation to
some real quantity in those ratios. I could very well be wrong...

In any event, the standard scale on an upright bass is 42", or so I'm
told. I don't know how "standard" the standard is, I would guess not very
standard. 

-- 
Steve Schmidt			<><		   whale@leland.stanford.edu

"We have met the enemy and he is us" - Walt Kelly
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: giguere@csg.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Giguere)
Subject: A couple of questions
Originator: giguere@csg.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: Computer Systems Group, University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:35:38 GMT

Here's a couple of questions for you all:

1) I picked up some cello music the other day because I thought it would be
   good for practicing and you can't find much for solo bass violin.  OK,
   everything's fine so far, but while perusing through the cello parts I've
   noticed that the cello seems to have the same range as my electric bass --
   the lowest note I saw was an E below the bass clef, which corresponds
   to my E string, no?  Now since the cello is smaller than a bass violin,
   shouldn't its range be higher?  Is cello music actually written an octave
   lower than it is played?

2) I've been trying some simple slapping, but my E string, and to some degree
   my A string, makes a pretty bad snap no matter where I play it.  I think
   some noise must be a normal part of slapping, but not to this degree.  And
   it doesn't really seem to matter where I do the slapping on the string.  Is
   it because the strings are getting too close to the pickups?  (I practice
   on a rented bass.... when I feel competent enough I'll buy my own...)

-- 
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Xref: sparky alt.guitar.bass:1177 rec.music.makers:9201
From: marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Interested in going wireless
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:15:17 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug24.185533.29219@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug22.012354.24455@sj.nec.com>, bigdave@texas.tdd.sj.nec.com (David Sweeney  x2987) writes...
>>Five hundred dollars for a single channel wireless?  Eek!  That's a real 
>>shame, because you can get a brand new Nady 2-channel for about $200.
>>I've been using the 201 model for a few years, and it's great.  I've never
>>noticed any signal degradation at _all_ and it's a lot more convenient
>>than tripping over cords.  If you set it up correctly, the Nady is flawless.
>>I'd wholeheartedly recommend buying one.
>> 
> 
> Please explain "proper setup".  I borrowed a 201 and had a weird problem where
> the attack of some notes would "fade in".  The owner said he had similar
> propblems.  It was not related to the battery and also not to location. 
> Standing right next to the damn receiver it would still do it.  

Anytime you send signal through the air, your bound to have something interfere
with it.  I don't think that you can expect "perfect" all the time.  As for
what I have used (Nady 101 and 201, and the Samson one-ch vhf) the Nady 201 had
the least amount of problems.  You must know also that I play on passive
pickups.  When I tried actives a couple of times it created much noise from the
volume pot.

> 
> It seemed to be sensitive to level...playing the notes harder seemed to
> minimize the effect, but it drove me totally nuts.  I did check the muting pots
> and they were set to the most sensitive position (i.e. least noise rejection). 
> Comments?

Make sure that your pickups aren't too high or you'll be playing with mud; just
keep their height "modest".  All wirelesses may have some lessened attack.  I
have a Carvin stack with some great compression.  Turns out sounding VERY
punchy.  (watch out for their noise gates though, YUK)

> 
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> 
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My current rig is as follows:

        Westone 5-string w/2 HBs
        Nady 101 wireless
        Alesis Quadraverb GT
        Carvin 500w head
        Carvin 4-10"s
        Carvin 18"
                also I love Carvin bass strings (whooopeee looks like I'm
                                                    sponsered or something)

this works very well.  I just played an outdoor gig on the University of
Northern Iowa campus and had no problems at all.

Yours bassingly,
Evan Marshall
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Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Monday, 24 Aug 1992 08:34:54 EST
From: Mike Mychalkiw <ACAD8059@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Bela Fleck on Tonight Show
 <92235.233821U21187@uicvm.uic.edu>

Greetings,

Did anyone catch Bela Fleck on the Bluegrass festival that was A&E about two
weeks ago? Great bass solo live. There was another fusion bluegrass band
that played also but I cannot remember their name. Check you local listings
A&E is great for repeats.
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From: recchia@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: acoustic bass guitar info needed
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:36:34 EDT

I am looking for a nice acoustic bass guitar (fretted), with a pickup.
Does anyone out there have any suggestions as to which companies make really
good ones? I'd also like to use it over a battery-powered amp, hence am
interested in anything anyone knows about such amps.
Please send me anything that might help!
Thanks!
	Charlie
From: bigdave@texas.tdd.sj.nec.com (David Sweeney  x2987)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Interested in going wireless
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:38:37 GMT
Organization: NEC-AM TDD, San Jose, California

whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt) writes:
>jonathan@mantis.co.uk (Jonathan Egre') writes:
>>warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw) writes:
>>> [there's 150,000 unsigned bands in LA. Maybe.]
>>
>>At a rough guess, this is the equivalent of 50% of the entire population of 
>>Los Angeles between the ages of 15 and 25 (both genders) being in a band.
>>Presumably the other 50% are trying to break into movies :-)
>
> [...]
>
>150,000 bands = 750,000 people gives 1 band member per 3.52 persons, or
>28.4% of the population.
>
>Still, it does sound like an exaggeration to me.

Ever been to LA?  The estimation is actually pretty believable.  :-)

Also, someone forgot one newsgroup:

rec.music.makers.thunderbroom

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Subject: Re: Interested in going wireless
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 00:22:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <5077@gold.gvg.tek.com> chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.185533.29219@ryn.mro4.dec.com> rost@rgb.dec.com 
>(My name is Brian Rost) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug22.012354.24455@sj.nec.com>, bigdave@texas.tdd.sj.nec.com 
>(David Sweeney  x2987) writes...
>
>(Text edited)
>
>>>I've been using the 201 model for a few years, and it's great.  I've never
>>>noticed any signal degradation at _all_ and it's a lot more convenient

The companding setup of the 201 combined with the fact that the 201's 
transmitter uses the instrument cord as the antenna causes the pots on
the instruments to make noise (especially in a hi-gain situation which is 
atypical of most bass situations).

>Usually the Nady systems work very well and you can really enjoy the
>freedom,  but if you are unable to tolerate anything less than
>perfection you really should consider staying with a cord.

When wireless manufacturers come up with a 120 dB system that does not use
companding and they take great pains to otherwise ensure linear amplitude
and frequency response, that would be the system to get.

As far as John Nady is concerned, he owns 3 clubs that are pay-to-play;
there is even a contract (I've never actually _seen_ it, but...) which
I have heard states in substance that failure on the part of the band
to sell however-many tickets gives Nady's club the right to _TAKE_ the
band's instruments. Yes, this is the same Nady who manufactures wireless
systems.

-Jim (jimlynch@netcom.com)

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz)
Subject: Re: Flamed!!
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:36:58 GMT

In article <17bk1oINNgl8@network.ucsd.edu> mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen) writes:
>I got flamed for calling Sting 'not that great a bassist':
>
>Michael Breen
>singing and philosophizing
>(and full of HOs, like everybody)

Hey, I just was giving my HO.
Sorry, didn't mean for you to get upset!
have a wonderful day!!

(((noah)))