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From: jrd@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Any good VT emulators out there?
Date: 8 Sep 92 07:47:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Sep4.011624.5569@ncsu.edu>, dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep3.163105.28212@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil (Keith Petersen) writes:
> |> 
> |> sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO) writes:
> |> >Can anyone recommend a good VT emulator for use to communicate with
> |> >Unix mainframe via modem? Doesn't matter whether it is PD/Shareware/
> |> >Commercial as long as it is good. Also, doesn't matter the OS; can be
> |> >MS-DOS, Windows 3.x, OS/2 or even SCO Unix.
> |> >
> |> >Is there any reasonable VT-220 emulator for PC running MS-DOS to hook
> |> >up to an ICL Unix x86 box? (This is a separate question)
> |> 
> |> MS-Kermit does excellent VT102/VT220/VT320 emulation.
> |> 
> |> WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL directory PD1:<MSDOS.KERMIT>
> |>  Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
> |> ==============================================
> |> MSKER311.ZIP  B  186841  911001  MS-Kermit v3.11 comm pgm for IBM-compatibles
> |> 
> 
> [..]
> 
> |> 
> |> Keith
> |> --
> |> Keith Petersen
> |> Maintainer of the MS-DOS archive at WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [192.88.110.20]
> |> Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu
> |> Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND
> |> 
> 
> Hi.  I've had a bit of trouble with Kermit 3.x with respect to VT emulation.
> Specifically, when I log into a certain VAX, after it says when my last
> interactive and non-interactive logins were, I get a string of at least 50
> linefeeds or something.  This doesn't happen with previous versions of Kermit
> or any other emulator (Windows terminal, Pathworks SETHOST, etc.).  I think it
> may be a problem with the VAX's trying to autodetect the terminal type.  Also,
> the TPU editor isn't happy unless I say SET TERM/DEV=VT100 -- otherwise, I get
> a lot of garbage on the screen and messages saying "invalid escape sequence."
> Has anybody else had this problem?  Perhaps it's something wrong with our
> (not NCSU's) VAX auto login sequence, or maybe this version of KERMIT mentioned
> above fixes this bug.
> 
> Tschuess,
> David Paschal
-----------
	I commented off-line that this is very likely something happening
on the host side. MS-DOS Kermit works fine with VMS VAXen and SET TERM/INQUIRE.
After all, I run such a VAX.
	In cases like this the best thing to do is create a log of the session
with Kermit command LOG SESSION, and then examine it with an editor capable
of displaying control codes. Reference Kermit file MSVIBM.VT for a listing
of typical VTxxx control sequences.
	Joe D.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: a20 handler #14??
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:03:08 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

ahoekstr@cs.utwente.nl (Andre Hoekstra) writes:

>Installed A20 handler number 14.   <========  ????????
>64K High Memory Area is available.

The A20 handler is different for different machines.  HIMEM usually does
a good job of determining which handler to use.

>after that I find
>	HMA not available : Loading DOS low
>on the screen.

Another driver in your CONFIG.SYS is probably allocating the HMA.  DOS
will not move itself into the HMA until all drivers are loaded, no
matter where you put the DOS=HIGH command.

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From: bruce@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Bruce Hegge)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: WANTED: print utility for wide matrices (ascii)
Date: 14 Sep 1992 17:45:32 +0800
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au

I am looking for a print utility to print some matricies. They are all
ascii files but have line lengths > 60 characters. I want to be able to
print columns 0-60 on page 1 and 60-120 on page 2. Not as DOS does with
col 0-60 on line 1 and 60-120 on _line_ 2!. Is there a small
command line utility to do this. Other useful features would be page
numbering, date/time stamp...

PS I have looked around simtel and haven't seen anything that looks
appropriate (I might have overlooked something?)

Regards,
Bruce Hegge
Department of Geography, University of Western Australia
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Rumor about MS/DOS ver 6.0
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:41:17 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <OA92-901-203_000C5F66@piraya.bad.se> Jan-Inge_Flucht@f203.n901.z92.badnet.bad.se (Jan-Inge Flucht) writes:
> 
>is going around. Is there anyoune who knows if there are a beta- 
>verson coming up ?? 

There already have been at least two beta test versions of MS-DOS 6.0 and
many more to come. Expect more add-ins (like the additional utilities
in DOS 5) rather than a revolutionary change.


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From: Deon.Strydom@p16.f1.n7104.z5.fidonet.org (Deon Strydom)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: UMB_DRVR causes HIMEM to abort
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 06:49:10 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7104/1.16 - The Catalyst BBS 1, Port Elizabeth

In a message of <Sep 09 20:57>, Yau Felix Chung (5:7104/2) wrote to All:

 YFC> Hello all!  I am also interested in using UMB_DRVR as it was 
 YFC> mentioned on another post that this mem manager is faster than smartdrv.

Hi Yau,
About the rest of your post I don't know anything, but I recently tested memory managers for speed and here's the results (Don't know why you have snmartdrv here though?)
========================================================================
  I was testing different memory managers for speed, and here's the results: Test machine is a 386SX 16Mhz with 4Mb Ram, MS-DOS 5.0 (except for DR DOS test), using PC Magazine Benchmarks ver 6.0.

All results are in kilobytes per second.
                           MS-DOS 5  UMB_DRVR                       QEMM 6.01
           TESTS           EMM386    ver 5.22   DRDOS 6   QEMM 6.01 +stealth* 
Conventional memory read   1495.61   1381.11    1426.46   1159.24   1488.37
Conventional memory write  1495.61   1381.11    1419.40   1159.24   1488.37
Expanded memory Read        488.08     11.77     183.67    398.83    506.93
Expanded memory Write       490.89     11.77     184.67    410.17    506.93
  
  * With Stealth enabled my HERC screen redraws were a lot slower than usual.
==========================================================================

Groetnis (=cheers)
Deon


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From: coffman@plains.NoDak.edu (Clark Coffman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: HELP! EMM386 won't work!
Summary: Might need himem.sys loaded
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:18:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <13617.2aa4cc37@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> colovas@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
[I have a new 486/33 and I'm trying to load things into high/expanded memory,
[but I'm having problems. when I load EMM386, it gives me a message that
[expanded memory services are unavailable. does this not work on a 486 box?
[This is DOS 5, BTW. Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
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This might be occurring if you're not loading himem.sys first. I believe
this needed for upper memory services.

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From: jliukkon@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juha-Matti Liukkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: UMB_DRVR causes HIMEM to abort
Date: 6 Sep 92 16:08:19 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <-m1y0=b@rpi.edu> chungy2@aix.rpi.edu (Yau Felix Chung) writes:

> Hello all!  I am also interested in using UMB_DRVR as it was mentioned on 
> another post that this mem manager is faster than smartdrv.

A small misunderstanding here.  UMB_DRVR does _not_ replace SMARTDRV -
it replaces EMM386 and similar programs which provide _UMBs_ (Upper
Memory Blocks).  It is not a disk cache. (Nor does the plain UMB_DRVR
provide EMS - with release 5.22 there is a separate driver, UMB_EMS, for
this purpose.)

> However, I have
> a Gateway and the doc. provided with UMB_DRVR says "maybe" for micronic
> boards.  Does anyone know if there is a new release of this driver that
> will work with a Micronics board?

The latest release (to my knowledge) is 5.22, and its docs still say
"maybe" for micronics.  The author doesn't have technical data on
micronics chips, and so can not do anything about them. 

With 5.22 there is a "user-configured" mode, and if you know what these
UMBs are and what to do with your MMU, you might get it to operate even
though it doesn't have micronics support per se.

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From: Art_Beyersdorfer@edtng.uwp.edu (Art Beyersdorfer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Longer Path?
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:01:52 CST
Organization: Electric Dreams: The Next Generation BBS

I've just been going through that with some process that I wanted to do.  I
believe that what you want to do is increase the environment size.  The
first time you run command.com, use the /e:nnnnn switch.  The default size
is 160, (for 3.3) and that space is used for things like path or set.

Check you docs for 5.0 (or 4.01), and see if the default size is different,
the switch is different (it shouldn't be), or if the maximum size is
different (it might be larger then the 32,768 that msdos 3.3 has for a
limit).

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From: murphys@nosc.mil (Steven P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: RE:LINKS
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:51:08 GMT
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA


Hello to fournes@belay,

	There are three DOS commands that may help "SHARE", "JOIN", & "ASSIGN".
I'm looking in a DOS 5.0 book.  The last two can make a "drive:/path" look like
an other drive which can be added to your PATH.

				Hope this helps,

				Murph


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From: jliukkon@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juha-Matti Liukkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Windows Enhanced Mode + UMB_DRVR
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:16:41 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <1992Sep3.235619.7142@rei.com> fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox) writes:

>I run UMB_DRVR 5.21 with Windows 3.1, with no EMMExclude at all, and 2
>megs of memory.  No MONOUMB either.  Works fine.  However, I do tell
>UMB_DRVR not to use the area from B000-B7FF, because SmartDrive crashed
>when loaded there.  MONOUMB[2].386 did not fix this.

Yes, you can run Windows 386 mode without the EMMExclude, BUT: I don't
know what actually causes it, but sometimes Windows won't boot, and
complains it can't load kernel386.exe. This is fixed by the EMMExclude.

With B000-B7FF, the area can either be excluded, or MONOUMB'd. The
former removes the area from use altogether, while the latter gives
Windows 32K more room. MONOUMB.386 works in my setup. I'd suggest you
try the EMMExclude AND MONOUMB, the Exclude might be a prerequisite. Or
why bother, it's only 32K... (I did it out of curiosity...)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: low level format
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 22:30:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Someone published the Maxtor BBS number along with a note that
the Maxtor low level format program was available there.

I would appreciate it if someone would re-post it.

I lost mine when I got the program, turned it on, and expected to 
see a menu or some other startup information.  It just don't work
that way, folks.  It just starts right up.  I wiped out my hard 
drive.... 213MB.  My last backup was about three weeks old.
It's amazing how much data you can acquire/change in three weeks.

Newsgroups: in.pc,comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: Missing character questions....
Date: 07 Sep 92 06:16:10 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <Bu0CD5.5ry@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> rcbaker@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Bob Baker) writes:
>While working on converting some VERY old DOS files at work, we've
>discovered an interesting dilemma.  When we do a directory listing of
>the files, we see things like:
>
>H FRAME   TXT   09-01-84  etc., etc.
>S H HOUS  TXT   09-01-84

Spaces within DOS filenames ain't officially okay. You can fix
this by renaming the files. for example:

ren h?frame.txt hiframe.txt
ren s?h?hous.txt s_h_hous.txt

subdirectories can be renamed using qbasic (dos 5) or gwbasic
(or basica or whatever). Or using Norton's excellent DiskEdit
utility. 

-jen



Xref: sparky comp.os.msdos.misc:5141 comp.os.msdos.programmer:9229
From: miner@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Les Miner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: 2 monitors
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:30:51 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Naval Research Labs (Washington DC)
Originator: miner@hightop

I would like to thank all who responded to my post.  If anyone ever hears of a
way to run 2 COLOR monitors off one PC please POST!

Here's another good one, can you run more than 2 hard drives on a 386?

;-)

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Disable Shadow RAM
From: Michel.Davidoff@sonoma.edu (Michel Davidoff)
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:25:05 PDT
Organization: Sonoma state university

In article <BuDw9A.ACr@iat.holonet.net> kellys@holonet.net (Kelly Schwarzhoff) writes:
>Subject: Disable Shadow RAM
>From: kellys@holonet.net (Kelly Schwarzhoff)
>Date: 10 Sep 92 22:39:09 GMT
>Does anyone know how to disable Shadow RAM?  I'm running a 386/33 with DOS 5.0
>and the latest AMI BIOS.
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When you boot the PC you have the option of running set up. I think it's the 
Esc Del keys in AMI bios.

Michel
From: marks@sdd.comsat.com (Mark A. Schleifer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: EMM386 Execption Error # 12
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:45:28 GMT
Organization: SDD, COMSAT Labs, Clarksburg, MD

hippo@sonoma.edu (Michel Davidoff) writes:

>When I run marknet and relnet I often get the message Emm386
>Ececption error # 12 P And then my system halts. I think that the p
>is the begining of a parity error.  I looked in the DOS 5.0 manual
>and there is no clue to what the error is.

According to what Microsoft FAXed me on EMM386 Exception Errors:
"The following is a list of Intel 80386 protected mode exception
errors and their names:

Code	Meaning
----	-------
0	Divide error
1 	Debugger interrupt
2	Nonmaskable interrupt
3	Breakpoint
4	Overflow interrupt
5	Array boundary violation
6	Invalid opcode
7	Coprocessor not available
8	Double fault
9	Coprocessor segment overrun
10	Invalid task state segment
11	Segment not present
12	Stack exception
13	General protection violation
14	Page fault
16	Coprocessor error"

All of this was prefaced by the comment "This error should not occur
on systems that are 100 percent IBM compatable.  Because of the
hardware-intensive nature of the EMM386 device driver, strict IBM
hardware compatability is required."

Hope this helps.

	- Mark

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From: snodgras@cs.unca.edu (Ryan Snodgrass)
Subject: Looking for IBM Mac Disk reader 
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:51:49 GMT

I am looking a IBM program that will read high density MAC disks on an IBM
high density drive.  I remember a few months ago someone posted the FTP address
for one.  Anyone know where I can get it?  Or the filename?
Thanks,

Ryan Snodgrass
snodgrass@uncavx.unca.edu
snodgrass@unca.bitnet
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: 132 Column displays
Keywords: VGA
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:58:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Sep9.035855.28147
Reply-To: 70465.203@compuserve.com
Distribution: comp
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

eomc40@festival.ed.ac.uk (K McBain) writes:

>Does anyone know of any public domain or shareware software that allow
>132 columns to be displayed on a "normal" PC. We can do it with the
>Trident graphics card, as it provides some extra software, but on our IBM PS/2's
>we do not have the same luck.

This requires *hardware* support. If your video adapter can do it, it'll
almost certainly have drivers for it. If it can't, no drivers are going to
help. Also, the mode numbers used aren't standardized either, so what 
works on one card won't work on another.

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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Floppy blues and 8088s...
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:02:47 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep6.190838.842@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_rasmusseam@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>From: z_rasmusseam@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
>Subject: Floppy blues and 8088s...
>Date: 7 Sep 92 01:08:38 GMT

>Ok, of all the crazy things someone could do... I bought a new 5.25" HD drive
>for an old 8088 computer.  Well, I can't get it to work on that computer...
>It works like a dream on my other computer.  So far I've tried drive.sys, but
>as I'm sure most of you know, you can't redefine drive 0 or 1 (drive a or b).
>So it was a no go there.  Then I tried drivpram to set it up as a HD drive.
>Well, that ALMOST worked.  It will occasionally acknowledge the drive, and it
>goes through the boot check without any problems...AND when I try to format
>a disk in that drive it goes as far as to say, formatting 1.2, but then it
>gives me a general disk failure or some such... Any suggestions???? HELP!
>Please!  Thanx, in advance...
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Your floppy controller on an XT will not handle a 1.2.  You need a special
controller for this purpose.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: pjh@mccc.edu (P. J. Holsberg)
Subject: Clip Art
Organization: The College on the Other Side of U. S. 1
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:19:21 GMT

Are there any repositories for clipart? Almost any format is OK. Thanks.

Pete
From: medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: PostScript Cartridges for IIIP
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:21:38 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

jpolak@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

>I want to upgrade my HP LJIIIP (3Mb) to PostScript using a font
>cartridge. At the moment I am considering the Pacific Page PE/PEXL 
>and HP's own offering.

I've no experience with Pacific Page's products, but I would check
that they can be installed in a IIIP.  Also, if it's important to you,
you should also confirm whether Pacific Page uses licensed Adobe
PostScript, or a PostScript clone.  If it's the latter, your purchase
should include a money-back guarantee if you have difficulty priting
the type of PostScript work you require.  I have heard of differences
between Adobe PostScript and clones, so this is something you should
test thoroughly if the PPage isn't using Adobe code.

As for the HP PostScript cart, I've used these extensively.  They work
well, though the speed is slower than a dedicated PostScript printer.

If you're interested, I have an extra HP PostScript cartridge.  I
bought 4, but wound up only needing 3.  This is still in the original
HP shrinkwrap.  The cartridge is the original version of the cartridge
that does PostScript level 1, not the latest version that supports
PostScript level 2.  If you're interested, make me an offer.

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