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Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Free Computer Technology Review Subscriptions
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:10:41 GMT
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From: gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: New Phone Rates for BU
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:20:08 GMT
Followup-To: ne.general
Distribution: ne
Organization: Mitech Corporation, Concord MA

In article <97127@bu.edu>, navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:
> I intend to send a strongly-worded letter to New England Telephone, AT&T, and 
> BU's Telecommunications Office soon.

Indeed, 50 cents a day might seem like a large expense for phone
service. So put it in perspective. What is BU tuition now?
Something like $10k, right? For which you get about "200 school days."
So that comes out to $50 a day. 

Is the new BU phone system ISDN? Perhaps what you should be complaining
about is lack of services. Like couldn't you make use of a dedicated
packet-switch port to hook up to your computer so you can connect to
the BU network?
From: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Public recycling centers?
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:45:57 GMT
Reply-To: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Organization: Group 101, MIT Lincoln Lab.
Originator: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)


In article <1992Oct6.184138.28011@viewlogic.com>, greg@mobius.viewlogic.com (Gregory Larkin) writes:
|> I live in Marlboro, MA and I was wondering if anyone
|> knows of any public recycling centers in the Greater
|> Worcester area?  Ideally, I would like to recycle
|> newspapers, glass and plastic bottles and aluminum
|> cans.  Also, does anyone know if Marlboro has 
|> curbside recycling?  I might have to convince my
|> rental management to start providing the service if
|> the town already does it as part of their trash 
|> pickup!

   Well, I don't know about Marlborough, but in nearby Framingham the town
doesn't provide trash pickup (or recycling I think) for any condominium or
rental units.  As a homeowner, I come out on the plus side of this, but
I'd like to hear about the relative taxes/services as this issue regularly
comes before our Public Works Committee (Framingham is a town of a
*thousand* committees! ;-))  Anyway, I think you'd have a hard time
convincing your landlord/management to provide recycling voluntarily.  On
the other hand, you might want to talk to your selectman (or whatever).

-- 
Dr. Marty Ryba                     |	Generation X:
Group 101 - Air Defense Techniques |
MIT Lincoln Laboratory             |  Too young to be cynical,
ryba@ll.mit.edu                    |		too old to be optimistic.
Newsgroups: ne.general,ne.food
From: adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin)
Subject: Re: Restaurant on Mohawk Trail (Rt 2)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:23:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.162002.18003@osf.org> dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.160419.4705@spdcc.com>, jin@spdcc.com (Jerry Natowitz) writes:
>|> I vaguely remember that there is a restaurant on the Mohawk Trail, perhaps
>|> on a bend in the road that is quite scenic.  Anyone know what I'm thinking
>|> of?  Name, location, how much of a tourist trap, etc.?
>
>I forget the name, but this describes a place just above North Adams.  Not
>much of a tourist trap at all.

Isn't it called the Famous Hairpin Turn Restaurant?  There are some nice
views at the Famous Hairpin Turn Tourist Trap and Cheap Plastic Tomahawk
Store right across the turn.


-- 
Adam Gaffin
Middlesex News, Framingham, Mass.
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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Two type of baybank machines: was: Anyone else get this from BayBank?
Followup-To: ne.general
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<1992Sep11.045739.6224@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>
	<1992Sep11.141345.12120@osf.org> <96871@bu.edu>
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:38:30 GMT

DN> == Dipesh Navsaria <navsaria@bass.bu.edu> 

 DN>    The most amusing sight I've seen in terms of ATM placement is in
 DN> Kenmore Square...There's a BayBank with a row of ATM's in it, and
 DN> right next door is a Store 24.  On the other side of the wall from
 DN> the row of ATMs is a BayBank Xpress24 CASH.  Someone will fork out
 DN> 75 cents extra just to avoid walking a few feet.  The sad thing is,
 DN> it's true...

Of course that BayBank didn't used to exist, so the only "real"
XPRESS-24 in the Square was the one in the BU Bookstore "Mall".

And then there were the days when there was a real BayBank in Warren
Towers, and they still put the XPRESS-24 CASH into the convenience store
at the other end of the building...
--
Christopher Davis   | ]CALL -151       
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Newsgroups: ne.general
From: chuck@westford.ccur.com (Chuck Palmer)
Subject: Re: Ft. Devens Airport
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp.
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:47:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.151638.72813@uvmark.uucp> tom@uvmark.uucp (Tom Rauschenbach) writes:
>I have seen and read many arguments against a new airport at Ft. Devens.  Many
>of these seem pretty convincing.  I have not however heard the other side.
>Is anybody out there in favor of this new airport ?  If so, what are the 
>arguments for it ? 
>

	Although no one wants an airport runway at the end of their street,
it is bound to happen some place around Boston some day. The problem is that
Logan Airport is one of the most inaccessable airports in the country, IMHO.
The combination of rush hour traffic, the tunnels and airport traffic is
a real pain (and possibly a detriment to business, but I'll stay away from that
arguement).

Washington National wins for most obsolete layout.

	Just my opinion...
-- 


                                   chuck p.
From: clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Stealing rocks (was: Foliage (was: Autumn Driving))
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:26:42 GMT
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: classic.bbn.com

richb@kronos.com (Rich Braun) writes:
>P.S.  One thing I never understood about Hawaii is this: at the airport,
>  they explicitly forbid you from carrying _rocks_ back in your luggage.
>  Somehow I doubt that Hawaii, which gains a number of acres of new rock
>  every year, will be depleted even if everyone took home a Pet Rock...

Same reason as why you aren't allowed to pick the flowers in the park.
If every tourist took just one ***from the few most popular scenic spots***
the character of the raw lava surface would be significantly damaged.

I admit to having brought back a couple of small interesting samples,
but they were taken from spots way out in the middle of nowhere.

Bob Clements, K1BC, clements@bbn.com
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: schuldy@progress.COM (Mark Schuldenfrei)
Subject: Re: New Phone Rates for BU
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:32:02 GMT

That's an interesting situation you are in.  Legally,
refusal to pay will put you in an untenable situation,
however.

May I make two suggestions to you? Post your message,
again, but perhaps a little more technically oriented,
to comp.dcom.telecom, and ask for advice.  The other
thing is, to check out the tariffs on file, and see if
this billing scheme is permitted under tariff.  I suspect
it is, which means that refusal to pay the specified rate
would terminate your phone service, and open you up to
a small claims court action.

I'd be happy to explain what little else I know about
telephone billing, if you like.  It's not much, and
you'd do much better asking comp.dcom.telecom.

	schuldy
--
Mark Schuldenfrei (schuldy@progress.com)
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: ede@kadabra.osf.org (Ted Ede)
Subject: Re: Going to see the Rocks
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:37:46 GMT

In article <BETSYS.92Sep29010008@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>The reason you aren't supposed to take rocks from Hawaii is, in all
>seriousness, that volcanic rocks belong to Pele the Fire Goddess and
>it is very bad luck to take them.
>  Every year the Hawaii Parks service receive thousands of rocks back
>in the mail.

So that's what my friend meant about getting stoned in Hawaii?

>  Interesting place, Hawaii. You *DO NOT MAKE JOKES* about Pele in
>Hawaii. Just in case...

Hasn't Pele retired yet?  He was a great socker player.  I agree no joking
matter, no even outside of hawaii.

>  Remind me to tell you about the building my parents lived in there,
>a 30-story apartment building which had to be 'exorcised' by the
>Kahunas. 

This sounds a lot like a Brady Bunch episode.
				   

      :) :) :) Smilies included for the humor impaired (: (: (:

ted

   Ted Ede -- ted@world.std.com -- on contract at the Open Software Foundation
      -- All views expressed are mine unless explicitly stated otherwise --
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From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: ANNUAL FAIR AT FIRST PARISH CHURCH OF STOW AND ACTON, MA--10/3
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:29:15 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

The 123rd Annual Fair, sponsored by the First Parish Church of Stow
and Acton, will be held on Saturday, October 3rd, from 10:00 a.m. -
4 p.m.  The fair grounds are located at 341 Great Road (Route 117),
Stow, Ma., junction of Routes 117 and 62.  There will be a bountiful
lunch, home-baked goodies, a White Elephant sale, crafts, used books
and media, used toys and children's games, raffle, and much more.
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: boaz@golem.lcs.mit.edu (Boaz Ben-Zvi)
Subject: Re: Autumn Driving
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:33:38 GMT


>>  favorite routes and places to go for foliage viewing.

Here are a couple of ideas (slightly off the subject):

* Apple picking: The season has started, and you could combine
  foliage viewing with apple picking. To get the list of farms offering
  pick-your-own-apples goto/writeto/call the 
	Massachusetts Dept. of Food and Agriculture
	Bureau of Markets
	100 Cambridge Street
	Boston, MA 02202
	(617) 727-3018

   They also have lists for Pumpkins, Fresh Cider, all kin'of berries
 (we're off season now anyhow for these berries), ......

* Georges Island: Take a cruise to this island for only $6 ($4 for a child).
  There should be enough trees for foliage viewing :-)
  Anyhow the season is almost over -- I think that the last day the boat
  goes there is October 11 !
    The boat leaves from long wharf, right next to the Aquarium. The company
  is called Bay State Cruise Company and their phone is (617) 723-7800
    The boat's schedule is:
  Weekdays: Leaving Long Wharf:  10:00am, 1:00pm, 3:00pm
	    Leaving Georges Island (i.e., going back): 10:45am, 1:45pm, 3:45pm
  Weekends: Leaving Long Wharf: every hour, on the hour  10:00am -- 5:00pm
	    Leaving Georges Island (i.e., going back): every "quarter to the
		hour": 10:45am -- 5:45pm  with the exception of 1:45pm !!
  The cruise takes 45 minutes each way and is quite comfortable. The island is
  a great place for picnicing or just spending a couple of hours. There is a
  fort dating back to the civil war, trees, lawns and ocean views.

-----

-- Boaz
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From: navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria)
Newsgroups: ne.general,bu.general,bu.flame
Subject: New Phone Rates for BU
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:25:16 GMT
Followup-To: ne.general
Distribution: ne
Organization: Boston University

Over the summer, Boston University had contracted with New England Telephone
to modernize BU's phone system.  The results of the deal were as follows:
	o No matter which option you pick, (Measured, Metropolitan, etc.), you
	  receive "free" call waiting, three-way calling, speed dialing, touch-
	  tone, ring-back, and service on your lines.
	o You must use AT & T as your long distance carrier with the special
	  ACUS program which has been set up.  The supposed discounts are only
	  in effect at certain times which many students find inconvenient.
	o Calling plans can no longer be used...Calling cards, however, still
	  work.

   While the long distance portion of the changes did not affect me to a great
extent, I was annoyed at the new rates they've set up.  It cost me $9.88 a
month over the summer for basic measured phone service and touch-tone, and now
for that same service (plus the supposedly "free" features which I don't want
nor need), I'm being charged over 14 dollars.

   I called New England Telephone and discovered that their measured service
rate has _not_ changed...but since I am a BU student, my dorm phone service
is now more expensive.  (I have lived in the same room through the summer and
into this academic year, and therefore have had the same phone number)

   I ask, what sort of ludicrous mess is this?  I absolutely refuse to pay
extra to help subsidize these uneeded services or the modernization...it 
appears BU has a habit of making massive changes without consulting the people
who will be paying for it in the end.

   New England Telephone should realize that students, most of all, should be
given a break instead of being forced to foot a bill like this...I am aghast
at their actions.  I will not pay a cent more than regular subscribers in 
Boston pay.

   I invite comments/thoughts/experiences from the readers of these newsgroups.
I intend to send a strongly-worded letter to New England Telephone, AT&T, and 
BU's Telecommunications Office soon.

   Thanks!

			    Dipesh Navsaria
			(navsaria@bu-pub.bu.edu)
	"Practice Random Kindness and Senseless Acts of Beauty"
From: carl@aoa.aoa.utc.com (Carl Witthoft)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: TNTNY
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:53:46 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Adaptive Optics Associates

x
Which stands for "The New 'The New Yorker'" :=)
Just thought I'dstart a nonscientific study of the quality of TNY
after the first Tina Brown issue came out.
My immediate reactions were:
1) Articles certainly are shorter.  This is probably good, tho'
they seemed extremely brief in some cases.
2) One more odiferous scent add & I'm going to take the mag, roll
it up, and jam it up Tina's nostril.

Anybody else?


Carl Witthoft @ Adaptive Optics Associates
aoa!carl@bbn.com  carl@aoa.utc.com
54 CambridgePark Drive, Cambridge,MA 02140 617-864-0201
"My Karma just ran over my Dogma!"
-- 
Carl Witthoft @ Adaptive Optics Associates
aoa!carl@bbn.com  carl@aoa.utc.com
54 CambridgePark Drive, Cambridge,MA 02140 617-864-0201
"My Karma just ran over my Dogma!"
Newsgroups: ne.general,ne.food
From: djb@bambam (David J. Braunegg)
Subject: Re: Restaurant on Mohawk Trail (Rt 2)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:40:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.160419.4705@spdcc.com> jin@spdcc.com (Jerry Natowitz) writes:
>I vaguely remember that there is a restaurant on the Mohawk Trail, perhaps
>on a bend in the road that is quite scenic.  Anyone know what I'm thinking
>of?  Name, location, how much of a tourist trap, etc.?

On Route 9 in Vermont, there is a restaurant on a curve at Hogback
Mountain.  It has a view of a few states (in clear weather), I think.

Dave
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: whalen@starch.enet.dec.com (Rich Whalen)
Subject: Re: New Phone Rates for BU
Reply-To: whalen@starch.enet.dec.com (Rich Whalen)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Shrewsbury, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:36:52 GMT


In article <97127@bu.edu>, navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:
|>From: navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria)
|>Newsgroups: ne.general,bu.general,bu.flame
|>Subject: New Phone Rates for BU
|>Date: 30 Sep 92 15:25:16 GMT
|>Organization: Boston University
|>

<description removed>

|>I intend to send a strongly-worded letter to New England Telephone, AT&T,
|>and 
|>BU's Telecommunications Office soon.
|>
|>   Thanks!
|>
|>			    Dipesh Navsaria
|>			(navsaria@bu-pub.bu.edu)
|>	"Practice Random Kindness and Senseless Acts of Beauty"
|>

You should send a copy to the state regulatory commision and the FCC as well.
Requiring you to use a particular long distance carrier sounds like it may
be illegal.

------------------------------------------------------
Rich Whalen

You don't know where these bits have been!
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: lmf@gtech.com (Linda M. Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: Ft. Devens Airport
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:18:05 GMT


In article <9209291820.AA04167@iecc.cambridge.ma.us> johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) writes:
>People in the western suburbs should also note that there is a perfectly
>good airport in Worcester with service to New York, Pittsburgh, and
>Philadelphia where you can make connections all over the place.
>
And people in the southern suburbs might find it faster to get to 
(PVD) T.F. Green Airport, in Warwick, R.I.  (Called Providence by the 
airlines, but technically in Warwick....)  
>
>PS:  I think that Logan is one of the most accessible airports in the
>country -- it's only 15 minutes away.  Only suckers take the tunnel.
This depends on where YOU live... For me, Logan is 1.5 or 2 hours, but
T.F. Green is only 10 minutes!  

Does anyone EVER remember that Rhode Island is part of New England....?

-- 
lmf@soft.gtech.com          GTECH Corporation        ... But don't blame
                               55 Plan Way           GTECH for my thoughts,
Linda M. Fitzpatick      West Greenwich, RI 02817         or lack of!)
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: Going to see the Rocks
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:37:14 GMT

In article <BETSYS.92Sep29010008@ra.cs.umb.edu>
betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>  Remind me to tell you about ... a 30-story apartment building which had to
>  be 'exorcised' by the Kahunas. 

But- was it the *big* Kahunas?

	-Kenny
-- 
Kenneth R. Crudup, Contractor, OSF DCE QA
OSF, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA 02142	+1 617 621 7306
kenny@osf.osf.org			OSF has nothing to do with this post.
	    "Motor oil?!?! <splut> YOU GAVE ME MOTOR OIL?!?!"
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: vsh@etnibsd.uucp (Steve Harris)
Subject: Re: Ft. Devens Airport
Organization: Eaton Corp, Semiconductor Equipment Div., Beverly, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:31:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.184319.14937@linus.mitre.org> jclander@maestro.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander) writes:
>Revere Beach Parkway).  If you need to use the Callahan tunnel to
>reach it, you're in trouble.  (If you try to use the Sumner, you're
>in worse trouble--the Sumner goes south.)

Well, to be completely accurate, the Sumner goes South-West, but I
prefer to think of it as going West, since it goes from the Airport
(which is in East Boston) into the city.

	==== Boston parochialism flame ON ====

Once again Boston demonstrates its provinciality with its choice of
names for the two tunnels between Boston and East Boston.  In most
cities, it would simply be the XXX tunnels, which you could take either
inbound or outbound, east or west, etc..  For example, the Lincoln
Tunnels run between New York and New Jersey (you don't have the Lincoln
tunnel in and the Washington tunnel out).

But not in Boston, oh no.  The good old Irish political tradition has
to find a way to apply a different name to every conceivable unit of
the urban landscape.  Every intersection of more that two streets is
the Father so-and-so Square, every road is the Monsignor so-and-so
Highway, etc., etc., etc.

And if you happen to be from out of town, and you're trying to get to
the airport, and you hear on the radio that the Sumner tunnel is all
backed up, you don't have a clue whether you're in trouble or not.  Out
here in the provinces, if you're not attuned to the local nomenclature,
well that's just to bad -- "what the heck you want to come here for
anyway!"

Oh well, I guess the way Boston treats its visitors must be part of its
"quaint charm" :-(.

	==== Flame Off ====

Anyway, I finally came up with a mnemonic to distinguish the Sumner and
the Callihan tunnels:

    .	"Sumner" has 2 syllables,
    .	"in" has 2 letters,
    .	the Sumner tunnel is inbound

    .	"Callahan" has 3 syllables,
    .	"out" has 3 letters,
    .	the Callihan tunnel is outbound.

Maybe some of you, esp. visitors to "Our Fair City", find this to be of
some use.

-- 
... Steve Harris - Eaton Corp. - Beverly, MA - uunet!etnibsd!vsh