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From: t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: question-The Mission
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:19:05 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.

milt@esd.sgi.com (Milton Tinkoff) writes:
: 
:     1> The First Chapter
:     2> God's Own Medicine
:     3> Children
:     4> Carved in Sand
:     5> Grains of Sand
:     6> Masque
: 
: I've had the first three for a long time.  I really like 1 and 2, but I
: find 3 just okay.  Would I like any of their recent stuff?

You'd like #5. Don't know 'bout the others, though. 
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From: schmitz@spot.Colorado.EDU (Count von Schmitz)
Subject: Re: Rosetta Stone?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:38:07 GMT

 
>I have one (uno, ein) song from Rosetta on the Goth Compilation and love it.
>However, Noooooo one here in the Mid West seems to have them. As a matter of fac
>t they haven't even heard of them.
> 
>Ugh.
 

  For those of you who haven't made it out of the mid-west quite yet, you might 
want to try Reckless Records in Chicago..  I'm originally from that area
and have had really good luck finding things there when I`m forced to return 
for holidays and such...  I actually found the Rosetta Stone CD (An Eye for 
the Main Chance) for only $12. (Yep, I finally found it, Pete..)  They also
had things by the Tors of Dartmoor and Kastierten Philosophen (sp).
  For those of you looking for the Sisters of Mercy Echoes (I-IV) you may
want to try Wax Trax in Denver...  I ended up spending far too much money this
past weekend.  They had all 4 volumes + a few other bootlegs (all on CD)..
I`m pretty sure they have multiple copies of all theses things..




  Cheers,


 Dave

Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: nbrao@athena.mit.edu (?????)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: Fields of the Nephilim...
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:40:41 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <ceoA_AK00WDN0Yg=so@andrew.cmu.edu>, es1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Mitchell Snider) writes:
|> Hey... I like Sisters Of Mercy a lot and I'm lookin' for some new
|> music to buy. I saw Laura & Elizium by FOTN but both were $21 so I
|> was wondering what I should buy first and if that's a reasonable
|> price.

I'd recommend Elizium first..  I heard (not sure where) that both of them were
going to be released domestically, but those might have been rumors.  Otherwise,
$21 is pretty good for import.

Nhan
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From: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT)
Subject: Re: Peter Murphy
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:49:48 GMT

A direct reply to you bounces, but here is the message I sent:

Should the World Fail to Fall Apart is by Peter Murphy, and I do believe it is considered to be his first solo album.
 
Hope that helps,
JT

Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: amason@cs1.uct.ac.za (A Mason)
Subject: Re: swans discography
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:33:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.152622.8334@iesd.auc.dk> buch@iesd.auc.dk (Henrik Buch Pedersen) writes:
>From: buch@iesd.auc.dk (Henrik Buch Pedersen)
>Subject: swans discography
>Date: 29 Sep 92 15:26:22 GMT
>
>Hello!
>
>I would appriciate if anybody could post a swans discography, I'm aware of the following albums:
>
>1) Love of life
>
>2) White light from the mouth of infinity
>
>3) The burning world
>
>4) Children of god
>
>
>Also, how is 1) and 2) compared to the others?
>
>thanks

They got a hell of a lot 'lighter' after Children of God [1987], with Burning
World [1989 - next album, as far as i know]. White light [1991] is completely
excellent, in my book. Heavier than BW again, but in a more orchestral, 
acoustic way than Children, which I think is quite reductionist. Love of Life
[1992] is also great, although I dont think there is as much to it as White
light. The production [by Gira] is completely brilliant on both.

I would appreciate some more comments on Holy Money, which I haven't heard.

Ashton Mason.

PS All the above are really amazing on acid, especially the heavy stuff.
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From: provost@vlsi.polymtl.ca (Benoit Provost)
Subject: Peter Murphy
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:06:38 GMT

	I know many of you will say that Peter Murphy is not really gothic,
but when I read the article about Bauhaus, it made me think about something
I wondered for a long time.  WHAT IS THE FIRST ALBUM FROM P. MURPHY (solo).
                                         ^^^^^
Every where they talk about him, they say his first album was "Love Hysteria"
but I own a copy of "Shuld the world fail to fall apart?" that was out
before L. Hysteria.  Was this album (excellent album by the way) really a
Peter Murphy album, or was he singing for another group (I don't remember
what was relly written on the original album).

							Thank's

						Svenn Le Terrible

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From: Adrian.Fernandes%nautical@r-node.gts.org (Adrian Fernandes)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 08:29:22 EDT
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Subject: Re: Sisters - SGWBM
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RE: Some Girls...
 
I've had it since May here in Canada and how can it have "more tracks"
when the disc runs 79.28?
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From: es1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Mitchell Snider)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Fields of the Nephilim...
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:32:44 GMT
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hey... I like Sisters Of Mercy a lot and I'm lookin' for some new
music to buy. I saw Laura & Elizium by FOTN but both were $21 so I
was wondering what I should buy first and if that's a reasonable
price.


-Eric
es1o@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: engmann@Mathematik.TU-Chemnitz.DE (Joerg Engmann)
Subject: adresschanging
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:30:45 GMT


              Internet: engmann@euler.mathematik.tu-chemnitz.de
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From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: swans discography
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17:14:13 GMT
Organization: Charnel House

buch@iesd.auc.dk (Henrik Buch Pedersen) writes:
: 
: I would appriciate if anybody could post a swans discography, I'm aware
: of the following albums:
: 
: 1) Love of life
: 2) White light from the mouth of infinity
: 3) The burning world
: 4) Children of god
: 
: Also, how is 1) and 2) compared to the others?

I've got everything up to when I decided they started to suck, in
my own personal opinion.  This includes:

    "Swans" EP
    "Filth"
    "Cop"
    "Raping a Slave" EP
    "Public Castration is a Good Idea"
    "Greed"
    "Holy Money (A Screw)" EP
    "Children of God"
    "Body to Body Job to Job"

The first EP was self-titled, and has a very different lineup than
any of the others.  It's sort of early New York No Wave sound, very
fast.  "Filth" added a heavy percussive element and slowed things
down some; it's one of my favorite albums of all time.  "Cop" slowed
things down even more, and got much more brutal.  The "Raping a Slave"
EP is superb.  In the next month or two they're supposed to re-issue
"Cop" on CD with that EP tacked on.  I believe the "Public..." double LP
came out before "Greed" but I can't be sure.  Anyway, it's so slow
that it warps time.  Painfully slow, pounding, superb cathartic stuff.
It'll make you hate everyone in the world.  "Greed" lost some of the power
they had previously, partially due I feel to the addition of Jarboe
on keyboards.  However, the "Holy Money" single is pretty superb.
"Children of God" was the beginning of the end; half of the album sounded
like Skin, and the other half was decent grunge but nowhere near as
powerful as they used to be.  I skipped everything after that except
for the recent "Body..." CD, which has a bunch of old material.  The
sound quality varies, but it's still really good stuff.

For completists, I should note that there was an EP by Circus Mort
which is basically pre-Swans Swans, similar to the first Swans EP.


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From: buch@iesd.auc.dk (Henrik Buch Pedersen)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: swans discography
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:26:22 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


Hello!

I would appriciate if anybody could post a swans discography, I'm aware of the following albums:

1) Love of life

2) White light from the mouth of infinity

3) The burning world

4) Children of god


Also, how is 1) and 2) compared to the others?

thanks
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: chrisl@county.lmt.mn.org (Chris Laurel)
Subject: Rubicon, etc.
Summary: disappointing . . .
Keywords: Nephilim
Organization: LaserMaster R&D, Minneapolis, MN  USA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:59:52 GMT

	I saw a single by Rubicon (Fields of the Nephilim minus Carl McCoy) 
in a local music store a couple days ago.  It's called 'Watch Without Pain' 
and apparently is a limited edition of 3000.  The music sounds sort of 
Nephilim-ish, but it also bears a painful semblance to certain heavy metal 
songs that I've heard.  Does anyone else have opinions on this single?  Does 
Rubicon have a full album out with better material?  'Watch Without Pain' 
just does not have the darkness of the Fields of the Nephilim albums.

	On a more positive note, I also acquired the Swans 'Greed/Holy 
Money' CD--enough gloom in that album to make up for 'Watch Without Pain'  I 
also grabbed 'Ionia', a CD by a band on Projekt called Lycia.  This music on 
this album is mostly the work of one person.  It features heavily processed 
guitar over lush, dark synths and a synthed drum track.  Much of the album 
is instrumental; when they appear, the vocals are raspy and whispering.  Is 
Lycia a new group, or has it been around a while?  I'd love to get some 
background . . .

--Chris Laurel
chrisl@county.lmt.mn.org
laurel@stolaf.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 2 Oct 1992 12:18:36 CDT
From: <U46837@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: Gothic Rock Anthologies
 <1992Sep28.124718.24237@doug.cae.wisc.edu>

Sorry if I'm repeating something thats been suggested...

If you can find it in the used or imports bins, check out the BATCAVE
compilation (UK import) which featured bands that played in London's
BATCAVE club.  Featured bands are the Specimen, Sex Beat, etc.

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From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Clubs in SF, need help...
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 16:23:46 GMT
Organization: Charnel House

U46837@uicvm.uic.edu () writes:
: I'll be in San Francisco next week and I desperately need to know where
: some good clubs are and where to definitely avoid (new wave bars gone
: yuppie and the like).  I also need to find some good coffe houses,
: local weeklies for club and entertainment listings, and good used
: record shops.  Also, does anyone have any opinions about going to
: Body Manipulations (if its still around).

Body Manipulations is still worthwhile if you're into the piercing
thing; they're good people.  It's on Fillmore at Haight.  Right
around the corner is Auricular Records and Naked Eye Video (which has
a ton of great magazines).  Other record stores you must go to are
Reckless (Haight at Masonic) and Rough Trade (a little further down
Haight St).  The two weeklies are _SF Weekly_ and _Bay Guardian_.
The _SF Weekly_ is more of an entertainment-type rag.  As far as good
clubs there aren't any in particular.  The Kennel Club is the best
for good shows, but that's about it.  The good coffee shops are
primarily on 16th St near Mission and Valencia, in the Mission area.


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Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 1992 02:49:37 -0400 
From: Scott Gregory <wg2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Peter Murphy

Excerpts from netnews.alt.gothic: 5-Oct-92 Re: Peter Murphy by
JT@magnus.acs.ohio-state 
> Should the World Fail to Fall Apart is by Peter Murphy, and I do
believe it is c
> onsidered to be his first solo album.

    Truly so, and as an aside, Daniel Ash does some of the guitar work
on it as well.

Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: nbrao@athena.mit.edu (?????)
Subject: Re: question-The Mission
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:20:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.231905.24281@tdb.uu.se>, t89par@tdb.uu.se (Par Svensson) writes:
|> milt@esd.sgi.com (Milton Tinkoff) writes:
|> : 
|> :     1> The First Chapter
|> :     2> God's Own Medicine
|> :     3> Children
|> :     4> Carved in Sand
|> :     5> Grains of Sand
|> :     6> Masque
|> : 
|> : I've had the first three for a long time.  I really like 1 and 2, but I
|> : find 3 just okay.  Would I like any of their recent stuff?
|> 
|> You'd like #5. Don't know 'bout the others, though. 

I think #5 sucks...  I wouldn't even call it gothic.
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 1992 17:08:44 -0400 
From: Scott Gregory <wg2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Peter Murphy

Excerpts from mail: 5-Oct-92 Re: Peter Murphy by JT@magnus.acs.ohio-state 
> I also have read where Peter Murphy was on Ash's album, but no credit
was give
> n because they wanted to keep it hush-hush from David J. and Kevin
Haskins.  H
> ave you heard any news about this?

Haven't heard about it, but it does make sense in the context of the
Bauhaus dynamic.  As the band was created by the two brothers David and
Kevin, but really taken over in terms of sheer weight of personality by
Murphy and to a lesser extent his friend Dan (you know that these two
were very good friends with each other, but really just art school
acquaintances of the Haskins bros before the band began) and the
consequent animosity that developed between the two groups, I wouldn't
be surprised at all.
From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: << BLUE BLOOD >>
Keywords: new magazine plug
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 11:40:18 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I've been running some info on BLUE BLOOD and BLT for quite some time now
on The CyberDen. (415-472-5527). CyberDen is not an Internet site, just a
usenet site, so you can't FTP it, but if you call, there is an INFO section
on various topics, magazines, recordings, etc...

Here are the files on BLT and BLUE BLOOD from there:

BLUE BLOOD
----------

This came to me with some more BLT's (see BLT info news). A card about Blue
Blood. -

 "An 8000 print run publication forthcoming from CyberJunk BLT, a
 two year old media company. The main focus is exotic sexuality - bondage,
 leather, vampirism, latex, etcetera. To a lesser extent, Blue Blood will
 feature articles on unusual lifestyles. Our upcoming issue currently has the
 following topics slated: A comparison of Macintosh graphics programs, a how to
 article on swordsmithing, a few tattoo tales, and really a lot of erotic
 fantasy, fiction, art and photography. We expect serious reader satisfaction
 and advertiser satisfaction."

Blue Blood                  ADVERTISING RATES:             Additional Charges
14207 Chesterfield Road      Full Page 7.25 X 10    $360    Second Color - $10
Rockville, MD  20853         Half Page 7.25 X 5     $200    B&W Photo    - $20
(301) 871-0119               1/4  Page 3.50 X 5     $105    Color Photo  - $500
Please make checks to BLT.   1/8  Page 2.50 X 2.25  $ 60

Subscription info: Until midnight, Oct. 31st, 1992, Blue Blood is only $20 for
one year and includes a free subscription to BLT. Use address above. Pay by
check or MO for mail order. Cash for in-person sales only.

     ---The ads said nothing about how many issues are printed a year---

BLT: Black Leather Times

A seasonal publication which averages 3 pages, (6 folded 8 1/2" X 11"),
and includes stories, Q&A, cool pictures, helpful hints, and ads for
latex and leather goods complete with skimpily clothed female models to
boot.

B&W with a one color cover/back. Geared towards those who live in the
cyberpunk vein. Bondage, Science Fiction, and technology rule this short
little 'zine. There was even a cool little info page on going to Japan,
something Xorcist is going to eventually need to do one day.

There are announcements about conventions and such in this 'zine. Things
like the INTERCON VII convention, and a BBS called FAN TEK which is
devoted to SciFi, Fantasy and Games. (Fan Tek: 301-203-9582.). Fan Tek
mentions that they are PG rated and $10 a year.

There were no dates or #'s on the 'zines so I couldn't tell which was the
most recent out of the 3 I received, but here it the pertinent information:

BLT: Subscriptions for 1 year are $5. International $10.
     B.L.T.
     c/o Cambodia
     14207 Chesterfield Road
     Rockville, MD  20853
     _MAKE ALL CHECKS OUT TO AMELIA G.

<X>orcist

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From: wrighttj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Auntie Tim)
Subject: Re: question-The Mission
Organization: Aston University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:04:38 GMT

milt@esd.sgi.com (Milton Tinkoff) writes:
: In article <1992Sep29.083243.28758@bristol.ac.uk>, ccsw@bristol.ac.uk (EthaStorm) writes:
: 
: Steff>   In order of appearance
: 
:     1> The First Chapter
:     2> God's Own Medicine
:     3> Children
:     4> Carved in Sand
:     5> Grains of Sand
:     6> Masque
: 
: I've had the first three for a long time.  I really like 1 and 2, but I
: find 3 just okay.  Would I like any of their recent stuff?
: 

Well, I only really like the first two. Carved in sand was better than
Children (IMHO); probably because the production on Children was quite
rocky, being done by the Led Zep guitarist. And I'm 99 per cent sure
(and being rather pedantic) that God's own Medecine was released
before The First Chapter, even though the material on TFC was earlier.
TFC was released because all the new fans from GOM couldn't get hold
of the first two EPs. The singles were released in this order, I think...

Mission I    (Serpent's Kiss)
Mission II   (Garden of Delight)
Mission III  (Stay With Me)
Mission IV   (Wasteland)

After this I'm not sure of numbering. I _think_ Severina was next, though.

BTW- the single Mission II was pretty different to the version on GOM, and
(IMHO) quite a lot better.

: -milt
: 
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 18:43:10 CDT
From: <U46837@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Creatures' "Feast" info...

The LP was released around '83 or '84 with a 7" cover of "Right Now"
complementing it (this song is not on the LP).

The music of the LP was done in Hawaii (land of Martin Denny and
Arthur Lyman) and has a primitive, tribal tone throughout.  "Feast" is
hard to find (really hard) around here, but just last week I came across
a CD of it on POLYDOR-Japan.  I figure its a kinda recent release because
the packaging has the newer Siouxsie & the Banshees logo rectangle on it.

If you're a fan of older Siouxsie and the Creatures, I recommend it.

I got to see the "Boomerang" tour several years back and never saw
Siouxsie so lively and dance so much before.  One of the best concerts I
had ever seen.

Something that I heard is that a new Creatures album has been made, but
record company and/or Sioxsie is holding its release until the recent
Siouxsie Lp publicity fades.  Seems that Siouxsie and Budgie want to
keep the Creatures a lower publicity project far from the Banshees.

Any insight out there ???

--
Gene J
<u46837@uicvm.cc.uic.edu>
Chicago

BTW, If in Chicago, stop by NEO on tuesdays (NOCTURNA) and thursdays
(Primitiva).  There's also a new gothic club opening called the
Saber's Tooth or something like that.
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
From: rji@trellis.cs.nott.ac.uk (Rob Ingram)
Newsgroups: alt.gothic
Subject: Re: interview w/Eldritch
Keywords: Eldritch, Sisters of Mercy
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:39:23 GMT
Distribution: alt.gothic
Organization: Communications Research Group

In article <BvosuC.LwJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, william@sage.cc.purdue.edu (jon) writes:
|> WORST LYRIC YOU'VE EVER HEARD
|> 
|> Too difficult a decision.  My favourite very bad lyrics would be 'Eisbar' by
|> Grauzone, 'MacArthur Park', and anything in Norwegian
|> 

I can't believe Eldritch passed up this great chance to have a go at
Wayne Hussey!

			Rob.

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From: Adrian.Fernandes%nautical@r-node.gts.org (Adrian Fernandes)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 18:23:58 EDT
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Subject: Re: Re - Question The Mission
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While were on the topic... Anybody here have any good Sisters'
bootlegs?  If so, lemme know and maybe we can trade.  Leave me a small
message with the groups you listen to, ad I'll tell you what we might
be able to do.
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