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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: IFF database of .advocacy folks
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:26:05 GMT

jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
:     Same thing goes for IFF. Personally, I think it would be utterly
:     dense to go for anything else. For the portrait/landscape
:     argument, remember that an IFF doesn't have to be 320x200 or
:     whatever.

I must agree.  At worst, one could define an IFF hunk with the "faces"
data you're looking for.  Using an IFF format will be the best, both
in terms of the future (Things yet to come...), and in terms of now.
IFF code is easy to write, easy to parse, easy to incorporate, and
easy to display.

However:  I advise, rather than lo-res IFF pics, that a 16-color IFF
Hires be used as the format.  Lowest common demoninator, don'tcha
know.  That way, if, and I do say if, one wanted to incorporate
something like that into, say GRn, one could use a hires display and
get away with tossing it into a window...

Perhaps, however, it would be better to have several of the same pic
in different formats.  Who knows, but it should happen in IFF.

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei)
Subject: Re: AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:54:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.075530.22445@news.iastate.edu>, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep3.031220.20736@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902125@ariel.yorku.ca (SHUK C YIP) writes:
|> >In article <1992Aug31.094150.7646@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
|> >>   What is my point about all this?  This is only the beginning for games on
|> >>the IBM platform.  Now that some games have already started coming out that
|> >>support SVGA, more will come.  It will be a *LONG* time before enough Amiga
|> >>systems have sold with AA chipsets to justify software developers producing
|> >>games that support comparable resolutions and color capabilities on the
|> >>Amiga.  
|> >>
|> >>   Due to lack of progress, the "Ultimate Game Machine" is very fast becoming
|> >>the "Ultimate Joke Machine".
|> >>
|> >
|> >Calm down! They just compared the original IBM version with Amiga
|> >version. (not LINKS386/PRO version) Under 320x200 resolution mode, HAM
|> >is better than VGA.
|> 
|>    You picked out a small detail and argued with it, instead of debating my
|> actual point.  My point is that the Amiga is no longer the best game machine 
|> around, and probably will never be ever again.  So many 386 systems with SVGA

Take a good look at the Subject line you chose.  According to it, you said that
AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links.  Well, are you prepared to retract that?

|> ---
|> | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
|> --------------------------------------------------

Francis
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From: TEW105@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:22:42 GMT
 <1992Aug23.130020.5510@uwm.edu> <1992Aug23.165205.19521@news.iastate.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Aug23.165205.19521@news.iastate.edu>, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc
N Barrett) says:
>
>type.  To see some really good examples of truly useful multimedia, people
>should take a look at some of the existing PD and shareware HyperCard stacks.
>I have several, which I have used to get my mom better aquainted with how
>to use a Macintosh.
[some quoting and paragraphs removed]
>   No I am not.  In situations like these, I always think of how easy-to-
>use of friendly something would have to be for my mom to be able to use it.
>She knows very little about computers, so a program has to be very user-
>friendly for her to be able to use it.  I installed a Mac emulator on her
>A3000 for this very reason.  There is a wide enough base of pre-written
>ready-to-run HyperCard stacks of all kinds that she does not have to know
>anything other than 'point-and-click' to make use of multimedia.  For her
>to do any of this on an Amiga, either I would have to write everything for
>her (which is unrealistic, because I am only home about seven weeks out of
>every year) or she would have to learn some complicated programming
>environment, because there is nothing pre-written and ready-to-run on
>her system.
>
Now we're mixing setting up multimedia applications and finding pre-existing
stacks.  Someone had to program those hypercard stacks, the Mac didn't do it
it self.  Just because no one has written an AmigaVision script (is that what
they're called?) that does what you want doesn't mean it can be done and it
sure isn't Commodore's or the Amiga's fault!

And I still don't see how a hypercard stack counts as multimedia.  What
mediums is it using?

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From: etxansk@garbo.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Lynx (was Re: More Jeff Young Rambings)
Keywords: rubbish,utter rubbish,total rubbish
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:31:47 GMT
Organization: Ericsson
Originator: etxansk@garbod20

10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG) writes:

>   [stuff deleted]
>   ...
>   I've played with one in a local department store and the Amiga shop near 
> where I live.
>
>It's got colour!
>It's got sound!?
>It's not a computer!
>It's a toy!

 It's the only Atari product that works right now!

 It's a product that doesn't necessarily have to be kept down by some
industry standard like the Amiga is by MS-DOS/Windows.

 It's made by a company that hasn't realized yet, that perhaps
they should stick to video games and forget about keeping 
their one percent market share in the personal computer market.

 Salutos Amigos, 
                  # # #  
 Anders Skelander # # #
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:03:40 GMT

stevew@mksol.dseg.ti.com (steve wootton) writes:
: How about the fact that the PCMCIA 1.0 spec applies only to memory cards,
: and not peripherals.  Or maybe that only the PCMCIA 2.0 electrical spec has
: been finalized, but not the 2.0 software interface spec?

This isn't an argument for PCMCIA in a Falcon.  This is an argument of
the mistake one makes by placing a series of motherboard signals on a
molex and calling it an expansion bus.  Jeff didn't see the point of
PCMCIA.  I just gave them to him.

I also told him why having a processor direct slot as the main bus was
a mistake.

: The effect of this is that all those peripheral cards are (right now) not
: only computer specific, but also operating system specific.  That means
: MS-DOS, not the A600, will benefit from all of the PCMCIA not-quite-2.0
: cards on the market.

Correct, not currently.  However, as you said, the hardware is the
same.  Once the software specification is complete, it will be easy to
upgrade.  Far easier than having to change hardware, for instance.

: Are there plans to upgrade the A600's operating system to support both the
: PCMCIA 2.0 Socket Service and Card Service Layers, after they've been set
: in stone?  If not, A600 owners will only be able to use 1.0-compliant
: memory cards.

: Interoperability is not cheap.

The 600's support for the PCMCIA cards isn't in rom.  So it won't be
all too hard to upgrade, will it?  They've had upgrades for less, you
know.

And since the hardware IS 2.0-compliant, then that's all it'll take.

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: papo@pyuxf.uucp (25241-anaya)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 13:34:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.231333.9874@athena.cs.uga.edu> kjohnson@castor.cs.uga.edu (Kristopher Johnson) writes:
>In article <1992Sep01.012719.55@pdnfido.fidonet.org> breaker@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Guy Sisalli) writes:
>>I beg your pardon?!?!? 8^), MUSIC DEALERS?? CARYING FALCONS?!?!?!?
>>
>>BAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Sorry about that, I haven't had a good laugh in a while.
>>What makes you think that music dealers are going to carry a computer? They
>>don't carry IBM's w/soundblasters, Mac's, or Amiga's(at least, none around here
>>do), and they are most DEFINATLY not going to carry an Atari product.
>>
>>go change you diaper!!
>
>Actually, *A LOT* of music stores carry Atari products.  Most of Atari's
>dealers are music stores.  After all, that's where Atari has it's main
>niche in the U.S.

Sam Ash, one of the largest music stores in Noo Joisy, sells Mac/PC computers.
It may be laughable, however they are there.... and the guy knows the machines
as well as any other computer store. 

Just my 2/100 dolls.


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From: Les_Jenkins@lppl.mi.org (Les Jenkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: World of CBM, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Date: 31 Aug 92 01:22:16 EST
Organization: Les's Place BBS

In a message dated Sun 30 Aug 92  4:41, kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu
(Kevin Darling) wrote:

 KD> He's obviously from the land of rabid computer fanatics, which
describes
 KD> way too many of us on this group.  He's a lesson to us all, to not
take
 KD> any of this junk too seriously :-)

 KD> <still laughing>  kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu>

Agreed. Amen. And all that other fun stuff.

(Just wasting Bandwidth as I am often wont to do.)

                                        ===Les===



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: bb@nyx.cs.du.edu (BIFF BUTTCHEEKS)
Subject: JEFF YOUNG, BEND OVER!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:40:34 GMT

JEFF YOU YOUNG TASTY ATARI ST'ER YOU!  BEND OVER AND LEMME PUT
A LITTLE LOVE IN YOUR LIFE!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jseymour@medar.com (James Seymour)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Organization: Medar, Inc.     Farmington Hills, MI
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:01:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.202722.5090@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad) writes:
>>: >
>>: >Big deal.  An Amiga 500 does the same.  How about with a ray trace
>>: >happening in the background?
>>: 
>>: Never tried it.  Have you?  Didn't think so.
>>
>>Jerry, I remember how you once said that you _never_ bash Amiga, but
>>only defend PC from Amigians bashing. However now you do bash Amiga.
>>
>
>What?!  Where in the above did I bash the Amiga?
>
>>
>>I did 2 minutes ago download at 2400 bps, ray traced on background,
>>compiles a C-program on background and wrote a letter using a word
>>processor (I also had text editor in ram). The word processor I used,
>>worked at FULL SPEED with NO slowdown. There is absolutely NO reasons
>>why it would not have worked at full speed as there are such things as
>>priorities.
>>
>
>Am I missing something?  Did I say somewhere that you couldn't do this on
>an Amiga?  The guy (Mike Haas) asked if I tried this under OS/2, and I said,
>"No.  Have you?"  What's the big deal?
>

Actually, Jerry, you wrote: "Never tried it.  Have you?  Didn't think
so."  (You'll note that it's quoted above.)  This reads much like you
didn't believe he'd ever done it and probably couldn't.  That's why
you got the response you did from Jarkko.

>--
>+-------------------+-----------------------+--------------------------------+
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley)
Subject: Re: Tandy's Multimedia CD Player (VIS)
Reply-To: dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley)
Organization: CEBAF
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:17:41 GMT


I heard that it would be jointly developed by Tandy and Microsoft under
the name "Gryphon"??
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: derek@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Dariusz Bolski)
Subject: let's help him ( about -MB- )
Organization: OSU, Advanced Computing Center for Arts & Design
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:53:55 GMT

I just thought that it would do you, folks, a service.

-MB- is selling his Amiga. Let's help him.

Dariusz Bolski

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Systems Programmer Ohio State University , Columbus U.S.
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From: WPK@cup.portal.com (Kenneth Pak-kin Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 Specs? Who knows.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 09:03:54 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <13806@chalmers.se>

>Amiga 4000 Preliminary:
>
>Hard Disk:  AT-BUS (IDE)
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Not SCSI??? I would be surprised, and disappointed!

O|O
 v   WPK
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 Specs? Who knows.
Date: 30 Aug 92 04:05:27 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900

In article <1992Aug29.171531.827@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
> As someone has already pointed out--[IDE instead of SCSI] might be a smart
> move on C='s part.  A4000 owners can then go out and buy those large and
> inexpensive IBM harddrives.

The only IDE drives that are cheaper than the SCSI ones are *not* equivalent
quality. At the high end SCSI is the only option, and in the middle the IDE
and SCSI drives cost about the same.

If I were paying several thousand for a computer system, I'd pay the extra
$100 or so and get a good Quantum or Maxtor drive... and then I'll be saving
nothing by getting the IDE version. Check the prices of SCSI vs. IDE on drives
that come in both models... the IDE may cost a little less, sometimes. But not
always, and not by much.

And what will you do for backup? "floppy tape"?
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: IFF database of .advocacy folks
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 10:25:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.054653.28730@pdnfido.fidonet.org> bill@pdnfido.fidonet.org (Bill Lanides) writes:
>In article <64630@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:
>
>>Rather than IFF pix, might I suggest "faces" format?
>
>Faces?? Has anyone here even HEARD of faces???

Not me.

>JPEG is by far the standard! It's as small as you can get, it's 24-bit, and
>it's made for digitizing thousand color+ images like a human face.

We can argue about anything in this group...

How about gifs?  Surely everybody can get hold of a gif viewer.

>>Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com, thad@cup.portal.com ]
>
>                                            -bill lanides

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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:42:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.045549.8911@endicor.com> tsarna@endicor.com (Ty Sarna) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.204305.5251@kas.helios.mn.org> rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey) writes:
>> In article <Yk5Ar*LT0@caleb.UUCP> jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett) writes:
>> =I think that the 040 is faster than the 486.  What do you mean by "do more?"
>> =
>> 	A 25Mhz '040 is not faster than a 50Mhz 486DX. By do more, you
>
>Um, and a 16MHz 386 is not faster than a 33MHz '030. I think comparing
>the processors _at the same clock rate_ was inherent to the claim.
>Yes, 486's are available at higher speeds than 040's, but then plenty of
>RISC chips are available that run faster than 50Mhz. You have to have a
>common ground for comparison to make it meaningful.

So couldn't it just be agreed that a 98040 running at 25/50Mhz is
in the same ballpark as a 80486 running at 25/50Mhz?

>Ty Sarna				           tsarna@endicor.com

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From: random@presto.UUCP (Jeff W. Hyche)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: 21 Rules for c.s.a.a postings
Reply-To: presto!random@uunet.uu.net
 <1992Aug19.110133.2162@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au>
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 alpha rel3
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:52:07 CST
Organization: I'm Just Me.

In article <1992Aug19.110133.2162@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au>, David Meiklejohn writes:

> >Which IS more versatile:  A go-kart or a lawnmower ??????
> 
> Isn't it obvious?  The lawnmower, of course!  Can you cut grass with a go-kart?
> Only after expensive modification, and even then it wouldn't do much of a job,
> but lawnmowers are quite capable of being sat on and going down hills very
> fast, so I rest my case.  I will admit that the lack of steering in mowers
> could be a problem, but then you could always go with a ride-on model.  But,
> maybe that's too up-market...

While I will admit that a lawnmower is a very useful tool, I feel
that I must jump to the defense of the go-kart.  

If you have a live axis and nice 5hp with knoby tires, you can
pull the grass up by the roots and sling it all over the front
yard, never having you worry about cutting it again.  Thus
canceling out the need for the lawnmower in the first place.

Trust me on this one, I have done it before:)
--
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 important, then            \\ //  UUCP: ...!uunet!sci34hub!presto!random
 why keep score?" Lt. Worf   \X/
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:16:04 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Aug28.185823.26687@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
> tsarna@endicor.com (Ty Sarna) writes:
> >>
> >> AmigaOS is a real-time OS?  Since when?  What real-time features does it
> >> have that OS/2 does not?
> >
> >Since day 1.  "What real time features does it have" is a
> >semi-nonsequiter.  Something is either real-time or it isn't.
> >
>
> Oh, I see.  It's that special something -- something intangible and
> unfathomable to most human beings -- that makes the AmigaOS what it is.
> Give me a break.  If you're going to make a claim, back it up with some
> facts.
>

Being a technical person, perhaps I can answer.  The Amiga Exec multitasking
kernel provides a mechanism called "signal bits".  Each task has 32 signal
bits, and a priority.  When a signal bit is set, the highest priority task
on the wait list or the current task (whichever is highest priority) is switched
to.

Consider this scenario:  ray tracer in background, CED program editor being used
interactively.  When you hit a key, Intuition sends an event message to CED which
causes a signal bit to be set in the CED task.  CED has set its priority as high
as possible while it is waiting, so it wakes up right away and pages your screen
of text down and then waits again.  Right away.  Real time.

Now, the operating system is not perfect, but it does provide the user with instant
gratification for his inputs.

> OK, what *does* it mean?  And while you're at it, please list some reasons
> why OS/2 is less real-time than AmigaOS.
>

You will have to describe the equivalent for OS/2.  Just plain timeslicing is
not great for your GUI if you paint your windows partially before getting swapped
out.

> >
> >Ty Sarna				           tsarna@endicor.com
> >
> --
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Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: bleys@tronsbox.xei.com (Bill Cavanaugh)
Subject: Re: AmigaWorld LIES about Amiga Links
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:47:39 GMT

In article <dfisk.01sy@level10.UUCP> dfisk@level10.UUCP (David Fisk) writes:
>
>Now if you want to talk about Links 386-Pro, that is a different matter. Yes,
>it is an amazing game that needs SuperVGA, 386/33, 4M ram (I beleive) as a
>minimum configuration. I would love to have it on my 3000.
>

Sorry, wrong numbers.  It needs SVGA, but that's really what's been
coming with every Intel-based machine for more than a year.  I haven't
seen a VGA card in a long time that didn't do 640x480x256.  The suggested
speed is 25 Mhz or better, not 33.  Of course, the faster the machine,
the faster the game will run, and I'm sure there are lots of people
out there who'll scream if it takes more than a second to
redraw.<grin>

One meg of ram is required, two is suggested.  Once again, since the
game buffers a lot of the graphics, the more ram you have the faster
it'll run, since it won't have to go to the HD all the time.

bill
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