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From: mcsbc2gw@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Reading are back
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:05:05 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <sasember.720723948@reading>, sasember@susssys1.reading.ac.uk (Stephen Emberson) writes:
> Saturday 31st October
> 
> Reading 3  0 Plymouth (Who???????????????????????)
> Jones
> Quinn
> McPherson
> 
> This match was on paper always going to be a tough match for Reading as
> Plymouth were doing well and Reading had not won any of their last 4 games.
> It started with Plymouth on top and Hislop made a good save at the feet of
> one of their forwards.
> This spell wasn't to last long as Reading began to get a grip on the game
> and came close to scoring on several occassions but didn't get the break
> through until the half hour when a good move on the left resulted in an
> excelent goal by Tommy Jones from 20 yards which left Shilton standing.
> In the second half Reading really took control as the opportunities
> came thick and fast and Reading got a deserved second on the hour.
> A good run by Gilkes down the left resulted with his cross being put
> away by Quinn to make it 2-0.
> There was a contriversial decision by the ref 5nins later as Richerdson
> (aReading defender) kneed the ball back to Hislop, this resulted in the
> ref saying it was a free kick to Plymouth. After a few of the Reading
> players gave their opinion to the ref he went to see the linesman who
> quite rightly said it wasn't, but the ref went and gave a drop ball inside
> our area.
> Reading sealed it in the closing stages with a goal from McPherson which was
> a header from a corner.
>  
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From: jons@stud.cs.uit.no (Jon Vidar Schneider)
Subject: Stig I. Bjornebye
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:21:15 GMT

His history:

Played for Konsgsvinger as left back. There he was the best player last year...

He has played on U-21, and he got 9 of 10 points in a match against Italy.

This year he played on Rosenborg in Trondheim. Here he played great. I think he
was the best player on the team.

The last he has also playes at the A-international team. He is a great shooter,
and in the cup last year he shot a marvolous shot up in the right corner of the
goal. That was quite good, I think...

Now I wish him the best luck in Liverpool. They need him, and he needs them...



Jon Schneider
jons@stud.cs.uit.no
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From: CASPERL@BIOMED.UIO.NO (Casper Linnestad)
Subject: Norwegian signs for Liverpool
Organization: NORWEGIAN EMBNET NODE
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 09:10:33 GMT
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Norway international defender and former Rosenborg player Stig Inge Bjoernebye 
has signed for Liverpool. The transfer fee was in the region of 400 000 pounds.                                

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From: greve@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP (Ron Greve)
Subject: Holland has only 3 good teams, bullshit!
Organization: /users/greve/.organization
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:20:41 GMT
Distribution: rec

Necessary introduction of Vitesse Arnhem on this net.   

After that posting of 'bronstri@fwi.uva.nl' about English soccer a
lot of people react as if Holland has only 3 good teams. As a true
Vitesse fan I have to correct here someting.

After entering the 1st division three years ago Vitesse Arnhem's
results in the league are 4th, 5th, and 4th place. Not bad for a
promovendus I would say. After the first year they immediately
played UEFA cup soccer and made it to the third round. Actually
at the moment they are again in the third round of the UEFA cup
after 4 succesive victories (remember KV Mechelen - Vitesse 0-1
last week). I am already looking forward for Vitesse - Real Madrid.

I already can't count anymore how often they 'stole' points from
the top 3 teams in Holland the past 3.5 years. At least I remember
they defeated both Ajax and PSV once in their own stadium.

Conclusion: Holland has only 3 good teams, bullshit!!!

Jyane,
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From: efsv09@castle.ed.ac.uk (J Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Subject: Re: The Bright Side of Life ?....
Date: 11 Nov 92 09:57:54 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

eftv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (G C Stewart) writes:



>ordinary. Rangers appear to have sownup the championship, but it's
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
         
>important that the pursuing sides don't give up hope yet.
>     I should also add that Rangers also played very well on Saturday
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>and contributed to what was I think, the best Old Firm footballing
>match, I've ever attended.

>     Revised league forecast,

>1. Rangers   2. Celtic   3. Aberdeen   4. Hearts     
 ^^^^^^^^^^
>5. Dundee U  6. Hibernian 7. St Johnstone  8. Falkirk
>9. Partick T 10. Dundee 11. Motherwell 12. Aidrie


>         Gerry Stewart

Gerry what has happend to you since I last read a message of yours???
Have you finally seen the light, gone totally insane, or has your body
been taken over by aliens from Govan??? Glad you were appreciative of
Rangers play for once!!!

                                Cheers
  
                                James
From: bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: A. Spirin
Date: 10 Nov 1992 21:36:11 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
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In article <1992Nov5.092041.1035@dct.ac.uk> mcsbc2gw@dct.ac.uk writes:
>
>
>Last night,
> 	Rangers took on Leeds at Elland Road in the 2nd leg of the Champians
>Cup. Rangers were looking for an early goal to settle the tie, Leeds were
>looking for as many goals as possible. Rangers led 2-1 from 1st Leg at Ibrox.
>
>[Stuff deleted]
>
>Ref : Alexi Spirin (Russia)

This name rings a bell. I read somewhere (WSC? Grauniad?) that one of
the Moscow sides (Dynamo perhaps) were appealing to get him suspended
after he had a awarded a somewhat dodgy penalty against them. People may
think refs award dodgy penalties all the time, but it's pretty to unusual
to award a penalty against a team when two of their *OWN* defenders
collide with each other in the box!!

Of course his name called for all sorts of headache references, too!

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From: budziak@vxcrna.cern.ch (Alfred P.Budziak)
Subject: CRACOVIA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:02:00 GMT
From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Quick survey of French results
Date: 9 Nov 1992 19:07:53 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Tomorrow I post the article, but here are the results:

FC Girondins-Caen 2-0 Zidane, Lizarazu (pk)
AJA-Metz 4-0
ASM-LOSC 3-0
LHAC-PSG 1-1
NO-TFC 1-1
FCN-Sochaux 1-1
Lens-VA 2-1!
ASSE-RCS 1-2!
OM-Montpllier 1-1
Toulon-OL 0-0

Cheers,
Kent
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:28:43 -0500 
From: Abid Aziz <aa2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: BRAZIL in 94
	<1992Nov10.184507.16453@csi.uottawa.ca>

Please stop this silly bickering.  We don't know what will happen until
it happens.  We will have to wait and see.

THANKS
Xref: sparky rec.sport.soccer:15889 soc.culture.spain:3759
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.spain
Subject: Re: Spanish Championship, Week 9
Date: 4 Nov 92 15:51:38 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Dept Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K.

In article <1d6nndINN2ou@gringo.usc.edu> mitrache@gringo.usc.edu (Traian Mitrache) writes:
>In article <92308.130359IO11033@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO11033@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>
>	Sorry but I couldn't rezist:
		             ^^^^^^^

Neither could I :-)


>>something more about the play of Penev. I am Bulgarian fun of him and his forme                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>	...yes indeed, you are really funny


"The blind man is laughing at the bald-head" 

					Persian proverb

>Traian


Luben
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From: halvard@trd.sdata.no (Halvard Halvorsen)
Subject: Watford-Leeds + Re: Liverpool,Leeds,Rangers,..
Organization: Skrivervik Data A/S
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 07:59:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.160726.24206@seas.gwu.edu>, sandhu@seas.gwu.edu (Jasvinder Sandhu) writes:
|> we've had a lot of news on the net about how bad Liverpool are
|> doing this season, and many excuses such as the bad management of
|> Souness and the injury crisis. I think it's a combination of both.
|> Once Liverpool do get their team together they will become their
|> usual force, but then it migth be to late. But i don't expect
|> Souness to go, but watch out when the come back.
|> But what has happened to Leeds this season. Their manager has not changed
|> and the team seems to be the same as last season from what i've heard on
|> the world service. They seem to be leting in goals like it was 
|> christmas, and the midfield seems to be no-where.

yeah - but we score the most too ... so clearly the defence stinks.

|> They were out-classed by
|> Rangers. So where are all the Leeds supporters, let us know whats happening
|> with the slide down the table. Do Leeds need a defence or what?

yeah same players, same boss. they could certainly need some better players
back there - except for Dorigo i think they lack pace. and where the he3$!
was Whyte when Rangers got their second one ?? far far away from McCoist
- clearly looking at the ball instead of taking care of McCoist - the only
attacker in the box at the moment.

|> 
|> P.S. I think Rangers deserved to win against Leeds, but the were playing a
|> side which was definitely out of form for whatever reasons, and Rangers are
|> in the weaker of the 2 European groups, they won't have a better chance of
|> getting to the EC final. But i don't think they'll do it. With Leeds they
|> were playing a British side, playing the usual long ball stuff, with the

yeah - agree : but Leeds really lacked fantasy in their attack on the night;
they looked like playing rugby or something with all those high
balls - easily taken care of by Cough (now _there_ is a defender) and his mate.

|> European sides they'll play against a style which they're not suited for,
|> so i think they'll get beat, like they usually do against average European 
|> teams.

well - im not so sure of that. from the Elland Road win it looked like
Rangers will be able to play sort of continental, looking for the fast break.
well good luck to rangers.

(and to complete the Leeds misery - last night we went out for Watford
 in the League Cup (Coca-Cola Cup). 2-1 was the result. The time has come for
mr Wilko to make some changes ...

|> 
|> 
|> well we'll see soon anyway.
|> jas
|> 
|> Go Arsenal, (and Celtic in Scotland).

yeah Arsenal sure look like they have a chance this year - with Limpar on the
bench they sure look good. Aston Villa and even Man U will have a decent chance
- Leeds not; they will continue to disappoint us until Wilkinson does
something in defence four - and maybe even something in midfield; up front
we are strong enough (and after new year Wilko will even have norwegian U21 hot
shot Frank Strandli)

halvard - Scandinavian Whites
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 16:23:07 CET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: CSFR round 12
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)

Again, it might be that Timo has already posted this, in which case you
can check whether Austrian and Dutch newspapers agree on CSFR scores :-)

CSFR
Round 12
Tatran        2-1 Dukla
Nitra         2-0 Vitkovice
Spartak Hr K  0-0 Spartak Tr
Dynamo CB     2-1 Inter
Slovan        3-1 DAC
Bohemians     0-0 Sigma
Banik         2-3 Slavia
Sparta        3-0 Boby Brno

Top of table:
1.Slovan       12  29-12  18
2.Brno         12  22-21  16
3.Sparta       12  21-11  15
4.DAC          12  24-17  15
5.Sigma        12  16-14  15
6.Slavia       12  24-18  14

Cheers,
Karel

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From: altizer@iam.unibe.ch (Robert Altizer)
Subject: Re: Rules Query
Reply-To: altizer@iam.unibe.ch
Organization: Motorola SPS
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:43:23 GMT

In article 28039@castle.ed.ac.uk, gsmcd09@castle.ed.ac.uk (K Franklin) writes:
>Question from a ref!!
>
>Once the goalkeeper has possesion of the ball in his hands. I was under
>the impression that the ball must leave the penalty area before it can
>be touched by a member of the goalkeepers team. If it is touched by a
>member of the defending side before it leaves the area then it is an
>indirect free kick. I was asked about this during a match yesterday when
>I awarded a free kick. I looked it up in my book but could not find it
>anywhere. I am convinced I remember being taught this when I did my refs
>course. Can someone put me out of my misery and tell me where to find
>this rule, or have I imagined the whole thing!!
>
>Cheers,
>
>Keith
>
>P.S. Please note, I am not asking about goal kick or free kick inside
>the box, just when the keeper has possession from open play.

Until this year, once the goalkeeper had released the ball into play he
could not have another hand possession until the ball was played by a
teammate outside the penalty area or by an opponent anywhere.

With this year's modification to Law XII, the goalkeeper may not take hand
possession of a ball intentionally passed from a teammate's foot from any
spot on the pitch.

When the keeper releases the ball into play from a hand possession, it can
be played by anyone, anywhere, without restriction.  Your description does
fit the restrictions on a GK or FK from within the area, as the ball is not
in play (thus playable by anybody) until it leaves the area.  A caution
is not mandatory if a player touches it inside.

Regards,
Bob

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From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: ESPN to show A-10 Tourny Final
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:46:26 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov12.170233.20740@u.washington.edu>, rcampb@cac.washington.edu (Russ Campbell ) writes:
> In article <1992Nov12.150309.18724@europa.asd.contel.com>, andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
>> 
>> ESPN will show the Atlantic 10 final game today between West Virginia and 
>> UMASS at 1:00pm.
>> 
>> Andy B
> 
> Just bloody great.  Show it while we're all at work or in classes and they
> didin't bother to put it in my local TV Guide listing.  Grrr.  I'd really
> like to have taped it to watch tonight (better than the normal prime time
> mindless drivel any day).  Oh, well.  Hope some get to see it and call in
> to ESPN to encourage more to be broadcast.
> 
> -russ

	Don't worry, you miss nothing.  They played on artificial turf (Yuk!!),
what an ugly sight.   Can't they find some decent soccer field ?


Jack Teh

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From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Rangers Match Report
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:05:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.124746.1517@syma.sussex.ac.uk>, davidc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (David Corr) writes:
> From article <1992Nov5.115640.6046@spider.co.uk>, by scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson):
>> Played on Wednesday 4th November
>> European Cup Second Round Second Leg
>> 
>> Leeds Utd. 1  Rangers   2
>> 
>> Cantona 85    Hateley 2
>>               McCoist 58
>> 
>> Rangers win 4-2 on aggregate
> I guess Rangers just got the lucky breaks on the night from what i saw!!!
>                   
....and I guess you were listening to Brian  Moore and Ron Atkinson !!
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From: pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Rules Query
Date: 14 Nov 1992 05:11:11 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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Please explainn where FIFA has issued a "trickery" decision.  I have no
knowledge of this.  It would seem to me to be the judgement of the referee
to decide whether something is Ungentlemanly, thus constituting a caution.
Personally I feel that any "trickery" as you call it is simply being creative
and most of the time dangerous....or in "trickery" do you mean not obeying
the spirit of the law?
From: cjones@dbaccess.com (Carl Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: rec.sport.soccer.referee?
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:56:14 GMT
Organization: Cross Access Corp., Santa Clara, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

A posting "should" be made in a day or so regarding the creation
of a rec.sports.soccer.referee news group.  If I understand the
process correctly, discussion (pro and con) will take place in
the news.groups news group, to be followed up after some time by
a vote.  Again, it appears that at least 100 yes votes are required,
so if you _are_ interested and think it useful, pass the word among
your referee friends for them to see if they have access to this
news group.

Carl Jones
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From: levin@src.dec.com (Roy Levin)
Subject: Re: rec.sport.soccer.referee?
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 22:32:21 GMT


I vote YES to create rec.sport.soccer.referee.

Roy Levin
From: wtang@neumann.une.edu.au (Bugs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: English Fitba' Crisis
Keywords: No teams in Europe
Date: 8 Nov 92 05:16:24 GMT

scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:

>The so called "best league in the World" can't produce teams that get past

	I think the Italian Soccer should be the "best league in the World",
	because nearly all stars paly there.

>the second round of European competitions. Not one of their teams competing
>last night won a game, and they were all at home. Of course Leeds Utd. were
>beaten by the British Champions, who of course come from Scotland. Liverpool,
>well a 2-0 defeat at home does little for Souness and Sheffield Wednesday,
>well they're Gladys anyway so no excuses there. However, this so called
>"Premier League" consists of very average teams, most of which would struggle
>in the Scottish league.

>"we're not in the habit of losing in our own midden" - Howard Wilkinson

>Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Everton all tried but failed. We didn't!

	Just wonder how many times they won in European competitions?
	Are they use to be the best team in Europe?

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:24:28 -0500 
From: Saverio Cittadini <sc4n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: News from Italy

Here are the most important player tradings that took place in Italy these
days. Two new foreigners arrive, namely Dutch forward Roy to Foggia and
Rumanian midfielder Mateut to Brescia. There was a midfielder exchange:
Desideri from Inter to Udinese, Manicone the other way round. Napoli got
defender Ziliani from Brescia and forward Bresciani from Cagliari, and
sold forward Ferrante to Parma.

Sacchi is thinking of some changes in the Italian line-up for the game vs.
Scotland. Vialli and Costacurta, who are not at their best, might sit on
the bench. A possible line-up is the following: Marchegiani in the goal,
Mannini and Di Chiara as side defenders, Baresi and Maldini as central
defenders, Bianchi, Albertini and Eranio at midfield, Lentini, R. Baggio
and Signori as forwards.

First problem for the "new" Napoli coach Bianchi. Ciro Ferrara, the team
captain, announced he wants to leave Napoli. Ferrara claims that the
feeling between him and the club broke long ago, and that he was staying
only thanks to the emotional charge Ranieri was capable to give to the
players. But it's easy to imagine that Ferrara's claims are due just to
his well known hostilty towards Bianchi...

Scores of some friendlies:
Sevilla-Lazio   1-1
Inter-Stuttgart   0-5  (!!!)
Deportivo La Corun~a-Milan   0-1


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