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From: shipley@peyote.tfs.com (Peter Shipley)
Subject: Dance of the Damed
Organization: Processed People for a Processed America
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:07:25 GMT






has anyone seen the move "dance of the damed" (1988?) 
it has a intresting alterate "vampire" (a co-species that looks
human for survival reasions, non-infectious bites etc).

I give the move three stars.

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From: shipley@peyote.tfs.com (Peter Shipley)
Subject: NightLife
Organization: Processed People for a Processed America
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:53:22 GMT




Best quote:
        "No, Blood light...."

2nd best quote:
        "You broke my heart" (after a stake in the heart, from his S.O.)

No tits, 2 dead bodies, dozen mummies, Ultra-violet Vampire foo and coffin sex,


avalible at Blockbuster

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From: alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North)
Subject: Re: NightLife
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 08:20:03 GMT

In article <SHIPLEY.92Dec28175322@peyote.tfs.com> shipley@peyote.tfs.com (Peter Shipley) writes:
>
>Best quote:
>        "No, Blood light...."
>
>2nd best quote:
>        "You broke my heart" (after a stake in the heart, from his S.O.)
>
>No tits, 2 dead bodies, dozen mummies, Ultra-violet Vampire foo and coffin sex,
>avalible at Blockbuster

My huband and I saw this movie Christmas night. What a great way to recover 
from having my family (full of nieces and a baby nephew) take over our
non-childproofed home. Light humor. BTW, apparently this was the pilot for
series on the USA channel, which only lasted an episode or two (per my
sister). Ben Cross, Barnabas of the 1991 Dark Shadows series, played Vlad
in the 1989 NIGHTLIFE. He improved his vampiric abilities greatly by 1991,
thank goodness.

By the way, I am the only one who liked the "new" (and failed) Dark
Shadows? I had a rather good time watching each episode by candlelight,
wearing only a flowing white negligee...

Alexandria
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North)
Subject: Re: NightLife
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:44:12 GMT

In article <geJkwB2w165w@west.darkside.com> adrian@west.darkside.com (Adrian) writes:
>alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North) writes:
>
>> By the way, I am the only one who liked the "new" (and failed) Dark
>> Shadows? I had a rather good time watching each episode by candlelight,
>> wearing only a flowing white negligee...
>> 
>> Alexandria
>
>... which I trust you had the HUMANITY to videotape!  Otherwise, we
>might perchance be forced to request an encore performane.  Bring
>popcorn, riding crops, Fangs-alot(tm)...

Videotape me watching TV in a white negligee by candlelight?? :^)

Of course, I videotaped Dark Shadows. Recently, I was recovering from 
being very sick, and I once I could sit up, I watched all the Dark 
Shadows tapes, for comfort. Thing is, I don't seem to have the opening 
episode on tape, and one episode was accidentally taped on long-play 
(ugh!). Also, this was at the beginning of Desert Storm, so there are 
strips on the bottom of the screen where the local newstation would send 
out a message. So, the quality isn't great, but I like it.

I did find episode one (which was two or four hours) on video, but it 
runs about $29.95. I have a hard time justifying that price, though I 
really do want it.

Alexandria

Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis )
Subject: The Vampire Lestat "comics"
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:58:40 GMT

I've been looking for the illustrated versions of the Vampire Chronicles, 
and have found them... with a vengeance. I was under the impression that 
each of the books (_Interview_ and _Vampire Lestat_ especially) had an 
illustrated counterpart; turns out that there are quite a few, at least for 
the Vampire Lestat. I found 12 volumes, though only 6- 12 were available-- 
at $4 each, they seem to have found my wallet's juglar. Neither of the shops 
I visited had volumes 1- 6; are these really old? Are there a total of 12, 
or are there more? Are the illustrated versions faithful to the book, and, 
if so, how can they distribute it amoung a dozen or more issues and retain 
continuity? Whatever, looks like an interesting item to collect.
---------

Eric Forbis      forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Sunday, 27 Dec 1992 16:51:52 EST
From: <CBTCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject:    FK mailing list?

Can someone please repost the info about subscribing to the Forever Knight
list-server?  Thanks,

Chris Thompson
From: alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Update on Lesbian Vampire Movie List
Keywords: Lesbian Bisexual Films Movie
Date: 27 Dec 92 21:35:20 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <1992Dec27.151441.6882@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> bchapman@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Bruce Patrick Chapman) writes:
>Carmilla is a suprisingly good film - short, 60min or thereabouts, but
>	well directed and acted.  while not top of the line, the director
>	has worked marvels with the resources at his/her command.  i
>	definately recommend it!

I just saw CARMILLA this weekend. Apparently, Shelley Duvall (sp?) 
did a cable series called "Nightmare Classics", and this was the first 
installment. I believe the director's first name was Gabrielle. While 
there were some logic problems with the movie, what can you expect in 
55 minutes? I loved the mood, and I thought the casting (Meg Tilly and 
Ione Skye) was great. Very romantic. For those who haven't seen this 
version of Carmilla, this one resets the tale in the American South.
While not as blatantly erotic as some versions, I felt that this was a 
good retelling of LeFanu's tale.

I also saw LUST FOR A VAMPIRE this weekend, and I really liked it. 
I'm rather shameless, though, about the kind of moody vampire movie 
with pretty women whose bodices keep falling off...I even handled the 
funky graveyard lovemaking scene (*where* did they get that music -- 
and why?!). Though, I believe I've spent too much time watching Mystery
Science Theater 3000, because every time Miss Playfair would run off, 
with her upswept bundle of curls bouncing behind her, I couldn't help 
but say, "Oh, oh, I have to run...must get this hairpiece back to that 
waitress at Denny's, before she starts her shift!" Oh, well, maybe you 
had to be there.

VAMPYRES is next. It's in the VCR, waiting for my husband to finish 
watching football. I played the first minute and a half to entice him, 
and I'm pretty darn sure he'll watch the whole thing. :^) They kind 
of drop you right into the story, don't they?

Alexandria, Stauch Supporter of Carmilla Stories Everywhere (and 
related rip-offs)
From: beth@nermal.SantaRosa.Edu (Beth Winegarner)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Rice characters are New Orleans gays??
Date: 26 Dec 92 20:01:48 GMT
Organization: Santa Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA

>I think homoeroticism is a better word, in general, than homosexuality, 
>because it really embodies the spirit of "sexual preference." Sensuality 
>is a big part of eroticism, preference, and all that.

I agree.  I think a lot of people's homophobia in general comes from the
fact that they don't realize there is more to homosexuality than homosexual
sex, but that's a topic for another newsgroup.

>To be honest, I've been reading recent posts and wondering how anyone 
>*missed* the overwhelming homoerotic aspects to Rice's male vampires. 
>To me, the heteroerotic scenes (more so in THE TALE OF THE BODY THIEF) 
>seem less intense and vivid than Rice's homoerotic one. I just wish that 
>Rice would portray a truly interesting *female* vampire (Akasha wasn't 
>the one) in a similar fashion.

I agree again; A lot of people just aren't open and aware to what they're
reading, beyond the surface of things.  But that's what discussions like
this are for; to open the eyes of those who haven't already seen.  A lot of
people may go back and read Rice's books with open eyes this time and see
not only the homoeroticism... but not even be offended by it, as some people
would have been had it not been vampires.

>P.S. Does anyone know if Katherine Ramsland is a confirmed "real person", 
>separate from Anne Rice? Keep in mind I don't have Rice's biography, I've
>just given as a gift several times this holiday season. I wouldn't put it
>past her to write an autobiography in third person, under an assumed name.
>So, I'm curious if Ramsland has done other verifiable work or if anyone 
>knows more about her...

There's a picture of Ramsland on the back of the Rice biography--she's fair,
blond, probably in her mid-to-late thirties.  Definitely not Rice. :)
From: christ@crash.cts.com (Chris Trichel)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Tale of The Body Theif
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:04:11 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

Well, I just finished this book and frankly I'm somewhat
dissappointed... Don't get me wrong... it is a quite enjoyable
novel and flows quite smoothly... but is it me or has
Anne Rice gotten predicatable! I purposefully refrained from
reading reviews posted here and yet could still guess
what the next chapter would invovle with no problem...
especially David's final outcome! (both events!)
well there is always hope for a 5th, better planned
book... and of course the movie if it gets off the ground
and into production...

May your dreams be filled with the glory of the night whatever
form he or she may take...
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North)
Subject: Re: Rice characters are New Orleans gays??
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:46:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.030518.22204@news.ysu.edu> ai072@yfn.ysu.edu (Gavin S. Patton) writes:
>
>>One objection: Homoeroticism implies eroticism directed to
>>members of the  same gender, whereas Rice's vampires appreciate
>>the sensuality of, and drink  from, both genders. "Bierotic"
>>sounds too ugly; perhaps erotic will do. 
>How about "ambi-erotic"?  It means "equally comfortable or 
>skilled with any form of eroticism".

I suppose. Still sounds kind of...oh, clinical. But, then, are hetereotic and 
homoerotic any better sounding?
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: bchapman@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Bruce Patrick Chapman)
Subject: Re: Voluptuous Blood-Sucking Tarts
Followup-To: 9005904@sscvax.cis.mcmaster.ca 
Organization: chaos limited 
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 21:32:24 GMT

...personally <toungue firmly in cheek>...i thought that this newsgroup
was about vampires...alt.personnals is for meeing other people...
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: branwen@sage.cc.purdue.edu ( )
Subject: Enclave Information
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:30:50 GMT

      I have seen the words "The Enclave" at the bottom of many
people's sig files on this newsgroup.  I would like to know what
it is, and any other possibly interesting information about it.

      Thank you in advance.

                                       Karen, DMAN
 (that's Dark Mistress of Arctic Night)
From: fortune7@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Hmm..
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 12:23:10 PST
Reply-To: fortune7@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

adamevil@momad.li.ny.us (Adam of Evil) writes:

> Strange subject for a forum... I wonder what there really is to talk 
> about on the subject of Vampyres anyway.

Then why are you wasting our bandwidth, dickhead?

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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North)
Subject: Re: Rice characters are New Orleans gays??
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 06:58:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.173039.3631@nic.csu.net> beth@nermal.SantaRosa.Edu (Beth Winegarner) writes:
>>I think, we forgot to mention that there is NO sexual acts
>>on the part of the vampires.  There is sensuality, which is
>>an artistic view of the beauty within the persons included 
>>in her books.  Never once did I read that intercourse took 
>>place with a vampire with the victims or the other vampires.
>>Mac
>
>Who says homosexuality exists in the sexual act alone?  It doesn't; and if
>you read the biography of Anne Rice ("Prism of the Night" by Katherine
>Ramsland, a must for any Rice fan) you'll see that some of her vampires are
>mirrors for the gays she knew while she lived in San Francisco.  Whether or
>not they're sexually active has nothing to do with it (Rice's vampires
>cann't have real sexual intercourse, anyways); but in her books, the sharing
>of blood is a metaphor for the sexual act (penetration... sharing of juices..
>the passion, etc...).  Not only that, but the clear affection between
>several of the male vampires more than suggests homoeroticism.
>
 
I think homoeroticism is a better word, in general, than homosexuality, 
because it really embodies the spirit of "sexual preference." Sensuality 
is a big part of eroticism, preference, and all that.

To be honest, I've been reading recent posts and wondering how anyone 
*missed* the overwhelming homoerotic aspects to Rice's male vampires. 
To me, the heteroerotic scenes (more so in THE TALE OF THE BODY THIEF) 
seem less intense and vivid than Rice's homoerotic one. I just wish that 
Rice would portray a truly interesting *female* vampire (Akasha wasn't 
the one) in a similar fashion.

Alexandria

P.S. Does anyone know if Katherine Ramsland is a confirmed "real person", 
separate from Anne Rice? Keep in mind I don't have Rice's biography, I've
just given as a gift several times this holiday season. I wouldn't put it
past her to write an autobiography in third person, under an assumed name.
So, I'm curious if Ramsland has done other verifiable work or if anyone 
knows more about her...
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ai072@yfn.ysu.edu (Gavin S. Patton)
Subject: Re: NightLife
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 03:15:04 GMT


>By the way, I am the only one who liked the "new" (and failed)
>Dark Shadows? I had a rather good time watching each episode
>by candlelight, wearing only a flowing white negligee...
 
No, I liked it too!  I wasn't in a negligee, tho...I had my
Tarot deck out!

>Ben Cross, Barnabas of the 1991 Dark Shadows series, played
>Vlad in the 1989 NIGHTLIFE. He improved his vampiric abilities
>greatly by 1991, thank goodness.

I agree -- much better!

-- Darkelas
From: khayman@cats.ucsc.edu (The Brat Prince)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Witching Hour sequel?
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:38:08 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


i loved this book, does anyone have an accurate family tree constructed for
this book though? i will pay you to send me one if you have it.

.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: branwen@sage.cc.purdue.edu ( )
Subject: Spoilers
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:27:40 GMT



      Eric, and others:

      When you are going to give away plot points to a book or movie,
please use the word Spoilers in the heading.  Some of us have not yet
read _The Witching Hour_ or _Tale of the Body Thief_ and are still planning
to do so.
      If your post needs to use information from one of the books, please
let the others users on the newsgroup know that they may not want to
continue reading if they do not want to know details of the story.
      Thank you.

                                        Karen
                                        the Dark Mistress of Arctic Nights


Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ramage@ece.scarolina.edu (Dan Ramage)
Subject: Re: Voluptuous Blood-Sucking Tarts
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:48:40 GMT


Stereotypes run rampant to the uneducated it seems.  Most all netters
are *fill in the previous derogatory remarks*, well then it seems
the person posting the remarks would be forced to imply the remarks 
to his or herself.  I ride a big V-twin motorcycle, uh oh I must
be a Hells Angel.

=====================================================================
Dan Ramage
ramage@charlie.ece.scarolina.edu

"I think, therefore you is."
"Is he a philosopher?  Yes, he's the one with the 'S'."
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: DRACULA song lyric query
From: jvincent@eagle.wesleyan.edu (The Ulair)
Date: 21 Dec 92 12:46:10 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

Does anyone have the lyrics to the Annie Lennox song  "Love Song For a
Vampire", from DRACULA?

     -Jim
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: an2863@anon.penet.fi (Jack Deth)
Subject: Re: Voluptuous Blood-Sucking Tarts
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.vampyres
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 08:15:31 GMT



  Sorry if my forward direct style offends you but I do not like
  to me one to beat around the bush, instead I say when is on my
  mind in a forward direct manner (instead of kissing the ass of
  society)

raven@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US (System Ninja) write:

>  Well, Mr. "Death,"

the spelling of my name is "Deth" not Death.


> I very much doubt that you've met Nadja

I have meet the person; we first met at a "babes" dinner in the
San Francisco area, She first impressed me as an open person,
soon I noticed that she had difficltly dealing with anyone who
did not completely agree with her..  

"babes" is a bondage email list for those who like to attend B&D/S&M
parties, I was asked if I wanted to be on the list, but from what I can
see, the list was nothing more but a bunch of people send email about
who fucked/whiped/burned/tattooed who at the last gathering and when is
the next gathering.

raven: Have you ever met Nadja in person?  If so, you will know she is
anything but a cute tart. Voluptuous maybe (as with most pair shaped
women).  I would like to point out your posting that flamed me did not
doubt my statment that this person is not the "Voluptuous Blood-Sucking
Tart" she claims  to be.

>As for the seductive vamp nip-nip-nipping at your neck... yeah,
>sure... in your dreams, man.

well in this case it is my word against yours,  (humm maybe I should take
a few vampiric/erotic photos and post them :-).  

alix@netcom.com (Alexandria North) writes:
>just as there are women who are beautiful inside,

if you are saying this co-dependent is "beautiful inside"  
I must respect your opinon, but it is not mine.

ai072@yfn.ysu.edu (Gavin S. Patton) write:
>  Flame the anemic little mortal but GOOD!

I Sir am 5' 8" and 175 pounds, (O- blood type)


Jack Deth


PS: as for late night hacking in foggy rooms, I prefer fo keep my
    home hardware away from such unfavorable conditions (but when
    I throw goth paries I find that slightly damp towels over the
    hardware keep the fogger's dust from impregnating the system)


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From: davida@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Austin)
Subject: Out of the House of Life/Chelsea Quinn Yarbro
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 02:20:04 GMT


Hi, 


Someone mentioned a book by Chelsea Quinn Yarbro called _Out of the House
of Life_ or something like that.  They indicated that it is a St. Germain/
Madelaine book.  Could someone who's familiar with the book tell me if the
book really is a St. Germain book.  It's available in hardback from the 
publisher, but before I invest $20, I'd like to know that it really is 
one of the St. Germain books.

Thanks,


David Austin


Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: vamp@seanews.akita.com (Ryan Watkins)
Subject: Re: Interview Movie
Organization: SEANEWS - Seattle Public Access News + Mail
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 11:32:18 GMT

melantha@cyberden.sf.ca.us writes:

> In any case...presuming that a somewhat successful screenplay is 
> accomplished..we have decided (amongst ourselves of course) that Julian 
> Sands and Daniel Day Lewis should play the main characters.  No one else. 

Daniel Day Lewis?  No.  Please not him... Please..... 
(Sorry, cant stand the man in most anything hes been in)

--- ryan

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From: tkelly@unix2.tcd.ie (Mithrandir)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Magyar's Tales?
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:48:37 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin


   Marius, old friend, you never told me!!

   Looking good, BTW.


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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis )
Subject: Re: Rice characters are New Orleans gays??
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 19:33:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.173039.3631@nic.csu.net> beth@nermal.SantaRosa.Edu (Beth Winegarner) writes:
>Path: news.cis.umn.edu!umn.edu!spool.mu.edu!wupost!usc!nic.csu.net!nermal.SantaRosa.Edu!beth
>Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
>Subject: Re: Rice characters are New Orleans gays??
>Message-ID: <1992Dec25.173039.3631@nic.csu.net>
>From: beth@nermal.SantaRosa.Edu (Beth Winegarner)
>Date: 25 Dec 92 17:30:38 PST
>References: <1992Dec17.225134.28953@news.unomaha.edu> <105543@bu.edu>
>Organization: Santa Rosa Junior College, Santa Rosa, CA
>Nntp-Posting-Host: nermal.santarosa.edu
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>>I think, we forgot to mention that there is NO sexual acts
>>on the part of the vampires.  There is sensuality, which is
>>an artistic view of the beauty within the persons included 
>>in her books.  Never once did I read that intercourse took 
>>place with a vampire with the victims or the other vampires.
>>Mac
>
>Who says homosexuality exists in the sexual act alone?  It doesn't; and if
>you read the biography of Anne Rice ("Prism of the Night" by Katherine
>Ramsland, a must for any Rice fan) you'll see that some of her vampires are
>mirrors for the gays she knew while she lived in San Francisco.  Whether or
>not they're sexually active has nothing to do with it (Rice's vampires
>cann't have real sexual intercourse, anyways); but in her books, the sharing
>of blood is a metaphor for the sexual act (penetration... sharing of juices..
>the passion, etc...).  Not only that, but the clear affection between
>several of the male vampires more than suggests homoeroticism.
>
>
I just finished _Prism of the Night_, where Rice is quoted saying just the 
_opposite_ of the above: the vampires weren't written with gays in mind. 
This was an interpretation imposed by reviewers. Rice said the parallels 
exist, but weren't deliberately created. 

Rice explored open sexuality and androgyny; I suspect that she'd find the 
label "homoeroticism" confining, if the characters were to be confined to 
that label. 
---------

Eric Forbis      forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu