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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:56:21 -0600
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      NW Security Update file suite

        Maybe you have heard the same rumors I have about the recent
security suite update files (novlib\novfiles\secdos.zip etc) being
withdrawn by Novell. They are true.
        I checked NetWire/Compuserve and there is a notice stating the
withdrawal. The best guesses I've heard is there is a problem in CLIB,
maybe coupled with supporting multiple namespaces, which leads to server
crashes (ABENDs in IBM mainframe-speak). Goodness knows what the truth
is, but I expect updated versions will reappear in due course.
        For what it's worth, probably very little, I finally installed all
the security files on my server with the aid of the 311ptb.zip updates, and
that has the NFS namespace on it too. Previously I had crashes using the
new Pburst.nlm, and the appearances are the sundry "fix" files interacted
badly with something. So, here's a case when installing more fixes than
needed might create troubles. The server is happy so far here, so don't
let it know about all of the above or it will get ideas into its tiny mind.
        I also noted here some gotcha's in the Postscript files of ODI
specs and I asked Novell to have a look. Those files are also temporarily
gone. It's a tiny thing about some macro so other not being in the equipment
around here; very small potatoes.
        In cases of real need, and it had better be, I have snapshots of
the entire library on backup tape. We all know what fun it is to restore
selected files from tape, but if necessary I may have copies here.
        My suggestion on this is to lag behind comfortably until something
useful comes along, don't tell your boss, and be prepared to retreat a rev
or two. The ancient Chinese knew whereof they spoke concerning "living in
interesting times."
        Joe D.
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From:         Richard Letts <R.J.Letts@SALFORD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Assistance Request

Howard Ramagli writes....
>
>
> We are looking for some guidance for our Novell servers.  Having just
> converted over to a campus-wide net and consolidated a number of servers
> into 3 super servers, we are looking for 3rd party software or a way to do
> the following with Netware:
>
> 1.  Virus Protect for Servers and Workstations
I've been 'looking' at the McAfee NLM. This looks quite good, though as I
haven't EVER seen a virus, let alone captured one, I cannot comment on
its effectiveness.

It can scan the fileserver volumes for viruses (either right now, or every so
often at such-and-such a time)
It is quite quick - it takes 30 minutes to scan out staff fileserver
[around 1GB of stuff on it at present]
It consumes 85% of the CPU on our 486/66 DX2 server

You can also ask it to scan files being copied to or from the server.
This consumes about 6% of the CPU.

          McAfee Associates                     TEL (408) 988-3832
          3350 Scott Blvd, Bldg 14              FAX (408) 970-9727
          Santa Clara, California               BBS (408) 988-4004
          95054-3107                            CompuServe   GO VIRUSFORUM
          USA                                   InterNet mcafee@netcom.COM

There is a five-day-trial version available.

We are probably going to order one copy for our staff server as we update the
applications on over 30 servers across the campus network from it.

Richard
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:16:57 -0500
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From:         John Rutherford/Faculty Computing Center
              <RUTHERFORD@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU>
Subject:      router error

I have just upgraded from netware 2.2 to 3.11. The server is attached
through one ethernet card to our extended campus network (1 wire
basically). There is another 3.11 server out there somewhere. When it
came up when I was using 2.2 I received router configuration errors
stating that Router at node xxxx claims that network 0000aa1 should
be 0000AA1.

I know (or think) that my server should be set at the same network
number since we are essentially on the same wire. But when I add that
to the autoexec.ncf file and bring up the new 3.11 server, it stops and
gives the mesage that the network is in use and I must choose a new
number. When I do that, the server boots, but I receive the router
error messages continually. I tried to unbind ipx and rebind to
the AAA1 network number, but it won't let me until I issue a different
network number.

HELP

John Rutherford
CCSU
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:53:07 -0600
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From:         Rich Molettiere <richm@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Novell's Menu

Novell's menu program will automatically create not only the GO0???.bat
file but also a RESTART.xxx file every time the menu file executes.
These files - at least in our experience - are always created
in the current directory.  If a user doesn't correctly exit the menu
program, these files remain.  If you have users who regularly do this,
you  will soon notice the number of directory entries available
rapidly decreasing.

Your best bet is to get a menu program that doesn't do this.  Also,
Novell's menu program takes RAM.

There are a number of menu programs out there.  Check out
risc.ua.edu in the pub/network/misc/menus directory for free/shareware
versions.

Rich

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From:         MARK@AHECAS.COLORADO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Netware 3.11/DEC MicroVAX interaction

Subj:   Netware 3.11/DEC MicroVAX interaction

>My question is - will the two systems pass data over the same wire without
>conflicts, so that I don't have to buy two computers for everyone who needs to
>use this new system? I have a mixture of 3Com and Cabletron NIC's on the net
>now.

I have two Netware 3.11 Servers, a VAX 4000-300, and a MicroVAX 3100 running on
an e-lan (Thin-e and fiber).  We have no problems with all the different types
of packets sharing the same wire.  We use DEC's Pathworks and Netware
Co-existance software so that our PC clients can access services from the
novell file servers as well as from the VAX's.

We utilize EM320 from Diversified Computer systems, Inc. (303) 447-9251 and
poly-net from Poloygon Inc. to allow terminal emulation through the wire via a
LAT connection to the VAX's for our NOVELL only (no Pathworks) clients.  We
also utlize the 3Com products and an ndis driver.  The folks at EM320 were very
helpful during our installation and testing of these products.

Good luck,

Mark
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From:         Jeanette Van Galder <jvangald@GOLDNG8.UNIVNORTHCO.EDU>

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From:         AHUSAIN@ISNOV.AB.UMD.EDU
Subject:      What is SCA packet type?

Hello all,

We found a packet type SCA on our network.  Does any one know what
the type number of this protocol (ethernet) is?  What is SCA protocol?
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From:         Angus Orde <A.Orde@LMU.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Copying protected software

>>I install software  GGGG. I give rights to the user to RF the subdirectory
>>ans search map it.   I mark the files H RO.  How do I stop someone
>>from copying the software. With XTGOLD it seems to copy just fine.
>>Marking them execute only disables the software.
>>
>>                      Thanks.
>  One thing we try is to hide some critical parts of the program,
>like the .exe file for word.  this will deter simply curious people,
>but not the serious hacker.

APPMETER seems to be the only way around this problem that I have found. This
is an applications metering product that uses a technique of disabling users'
rights to executable files. They can then run a "Stub" file which allows them
rights to the executable again, but only while in the program.

ie. WordPerfect is metered by APPMETER. From DOS, WP.EXE is not hidden, you
do not have any rights to it at all, so although you can copy all the other
files, WP.EXE is not there. When you run the WP.EXE stub (this can be called
something else if you want) it paths to the real WP.EXE, grants you rights to
it, and starts WordPerfect.

I have not experimented with trying to copy files from within the package,
but this is at least much better than relying on users to be fooled by hidden
files (the only previous solution).

Cheers,

Angus
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From: b.lynam@qut.edu.au (Barry Lynam)
Subject: Problem with NE1000 Boot roms
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Organization: Queensland University of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 02:30:15 GMT

Hello,
	I have come across a problem with a few of the labs we have here. We have
numerous PC's
with NE1000's and Remote boot roms. It seems that when the card see's an
ethernet 2 packet
(probably a broadcast) the PC hangs with a Paging Error. Up until now the labs
have been isolated
from ethernet 2 packets and only had 802.3 on that part of the ether. The ROMs
in question are
fairly old (86,87 copyright), does anyone know if this has been fixed? I assume
that it has. The ni5210's
that remote boot are OK.

Barry Lynam
B.Lynam@qut.edu.au
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From:         "Bob.Cowling" <23130MGR@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CAPTURE TI= option

Sounds like reinventing the wheel...We use (like it's really great or
something) a ti = 90 and point WP to the queue.  Works real slick.

Now Quattro Pro is another story...
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Subject:      Re: colorado memory systems

   Speaking of Colorado Memory Systems, has anyone had there screens ever lock
up when accessing a menu in the backup utility software?  For some reason, when
I use the erase function esp., I get a locked screen.  We are using a Trakker
250, that uses the parallel port, and am wondering if anyone has similar
problems.  It happens infrequently, but there has to be an explanation.
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From:         James Ford <JFORD@SEEBECK.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IBM Token Ring 16/4 Adapter II

>Has anyone setup an IBM Token Ring 16/4 Adapter II card running TCP/IP and
>IPX via packet drivers and CUTCP?  We have set up the IBM Token Ring 16/4
>Adapter c ard (without the II) like this:

Yes.

>     Config.sys
>         device=c:\cutcp\dxma0mod.sys 001
>         device=c:\cutcp\dxmc0mod.sys
>         rem device=c:\cutcp\dxmt0mod.sys

You don't need dxmt0mod.sys unless you need netbios for something.   Same
some ram and comment it out.

>     Autoexec.bat
>         ibmtoken 0x60 0
>         pdipx (Intel's) (ver. 3.10)

This should be IPXLSP, or IPX generated for the Lan Support Program.

          ibmtoken 0x61 0   (or 0x60...doesn't matter)
          ipxlsp             IPX generated for Lan Support Program
          netx               Your favorite flavor of netx.

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Reply-To:     Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@pcohio.wariat.org>
From:         Bob Abbott <bob.abbott@PCOHIO.WARIAT.ORG>
Subject:      Who got an Upgrade for 3.

K>From:         kirchner@INFORMATIK.UNI-KL.DE
K>Subject:      Who got an Upgrade for 3.11 ?

K>some wrote here they got an update ( sorry, misstyped subject ) for 3.11
K>from Novell. Since I also registered my copy I have to ask: who get's this,
K>or: why did I get it not ?

K>Must I have a special maintenance agreement, or what's going on?

K>Or is it simply that we outside USA are treated worse, as it happens so
K>often :-(   ( They all want our best, our D-Marks )

  I got an upgrade mailed to me and so did a few of my clients.  I am a
Gold Authorized Reseller.  Asking the a Novell SE from the local office,
he said they did not know who got updates.  Didn't know if the dealers
should have gotten them.  Didn't know which end users got them.  All it
included the equivalent of the file 311pt?.zip on several diskettes.  No
big deal now that I see what was included.  My own observation is that
end users that RECENTLY sent in their registration cards got updates.
One even got an update for V2.2.

  I think Novell sends it out by alpha-nu-random selection.

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From:         "Bob.Cowling" <23130MGR@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      CAPTURE TI= option

You are confusing timeout with endcap.  Timeout says 'wait for this amount of
time and then give up and endcap the printjob and get ready for another one'.
Endcap says 'output cleared for printing, get to it' and releases it to the
queue.  If you have a program (Excel for example) and it takes along time for
prints to make it into the queue completely, you could get the situation where
the spooler prematurally endcaps the job and resets for the next job, which is
probably going to be the rest of your printout.  On a system that requires a
command to switch a printer to postscript and back again, the first 'job'
would have the command and the second would not because the software would
think 'why send the command twice when we just sent it'.  If you get alot of
just plain banners with no output then you will have to play with this
setting.
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From:         Adriaan Odendaal <Adriaan@SCINET.UP.AC.ZA>
Subject:      Re: Windows Rprinter Doc Dos 6 (fwd)

I would like that fix. That is the one that loads rprinter High.
Please let met know where.
Or post it on the Internet.

Adriaan
Adriaan@scinet.up.ac.za
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From: kspeicht@kilcom1.ucis.dal.ca (Kevin F. Speichts)
Subject: Re: Novell version 3.11
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:51:06 GMT

In article <bhendric.23.0@NSD.Provo.novell.com> Ben Hendrick <bhendric@NOVELL.COM> writes:
>Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:34:05 -500
>From:         Ben Hendrick <bhendric@NOVELL.COM>
>Subject:      Re: Novell version 3.11

>>We are installing Novell 3.11 on a new server.  After installing the new
>>version of Novell, we moved all of our files from the old server (Novell
>>2.2) to the new server.  When logging in as the supervisor or operator all
>>of our programs work as they did on the old server.  When logging in as a
>>guest all of the programs will not run.  The message we get back is
>>"Program to big to fit into memory".  Quest seem to have about 200k less in
>>memory at the workstation level than do other users.
>>

>You necd to make sure that you are exiting in your LOGIN SCRIPT with EXIT ",
>so for example, if you are exiting to Novell's menu program then put the
>following EXIT "MENU TEST.MNU" if you dont  login.exe holds on to a lot of
>memory. Check it and see.
>________________________________________________________
>Ben Hendrick              Phone # 800-638-9273
>Novell Services Division  Fax # 801-429-5200
>122 East 1700 South       Email=BHENDRIC@NOVELL.COM
>Provo, UT 84606     **Customer Driven and Loving it!!**
>--------------------------------------------------------


	Also, if your using the Novell menu system, check the version 
number.  We had this same problem (using version 2.30) and downgraded menu.
exe to an earlier version (1.70 or something).  It uses less memory.



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From:         PPSY1439@ALTAIR.SELU.EDU
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University
Subject:      Help!!! Server Abend

My EISA NetWare 3.11 server periodically abends displaying the follwing
message:

General Protection Processor Exception (error code 00000000)

Running Process: Interrupt service routine (nested count 2)

Interrupted process: Polling Process

Stack

5D 1E 01 00 01 03 00 00 10 00 05 00 10 00 05 00
6C EF 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 48 05 19 00
34 65 18 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 D7 72 10 00

I have been running the server for about month, and the server has
abended six times.  Five times the server has abended in the middle
of the night, or early in the morning when NOBODY is using the system.
Only once has the server abended while people were using the network.
The same EXACT abend message is always displayed.  The only difference is
the time of the abend.

Originally we believed the error may be caused by a bad power source, perhaps
some surge or spike from our solar.  However, that has been ruled out.

I am at a total loss.  The server runs perfectly for 2-3 days, then it seems
to "fall asleep" in the middle of the night.

Any ideas or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Jacques Vignes
Network Admin
SGA Lab
Southeastern Louisiana University
(504) 549-3863
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