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From: meharp01@vlsi.louisville.edu (Michael Harpe)
Subject: Inland Marine frequencies
Keywords: marine frequencies
Organization: University of Louisville
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 15:12:25 GMT

Can someone post a list of the standard Marine band channel assignments?  I
am interested in those that would be commonly used on inland rivers and
lakes.  If you don't think posting is appropriate, direct EMAIL is fine.

Mike Harpe, N4PLE
University of Louisville
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: mperlman@isis.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: Re: Scanners on Planes
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 20:14:35 GMT

abottone@cass.ma02.bull.com (Alessandro Bottonelli) writes:

>Jae.Kwak@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jae Kwak) writes:


>with my scanner (mine does not have 800 Mhz band however). So far no
>security officer on the ground or flight crew has ever complained.
>This include US carriers as well as European carriers like 
>Swissair, Lufthansa, and Alitalia. Try only to be as kind as to
>tell the flight crew to whom to direct complains if the pilots
>experience troubles with their electronic gear.

The Federal Aviation Regulations say the following:

Section 91.21 Portable Electronic Devices

(a) Except as provided in paragraph (b) of his section, no person may operate,
    nor may any operator or pilot in command of an aircraft allow the operation
    of, any portable electronic device on any of the following U.S.-registered
    civil aircraft:

    (1) Aircraft operated by a holder of an air carrier operating certificate
    or an operating certificate; or
   
    (2) Any other aircraft while it is operated under IFR.

(b) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to - 
    
    (1) Portable voice recorders;
    
    (2) Hearing aids;
  
    (3) Heart pacemakers;

    (4) Electric shaves; or

    (5) Any other portable electronic device that the operator of the aircraft
        has determined will not cause interference with the navigation or
        communication system of the aircraft on which it is to be used.

(c) In the case of an aircraft operated by a holder of an air carrier operating
    certificate or an operating certificate, the determination required by
    paragraph (b) (5) of this section shall be made by the operator of the
    aircraft on which the particular device is to be used. In the case of other
    aircraft, the determination may be made by the pilot in command or other
    operator of the aircraft.

---------------------------------ABOVE QUOTED FROM F.A.R. JULY 1991------------


I don't know what this means in other countries..but I'll bet it is almost
the same.

What it means is that, YES, it is illegal to operate a scanner in the plane
unless the pilot is aware of it and deems it OK.

The best thing to do is ASK. I always do...they never say no.

BEST of all...sometimes the pilots say; "Why use the scanner? You'll be playing
'Catch Up' everytime we switch frequencies...why not just listen to the
headphones on channel 1...we'll pipe our audio through for you." (Yes, they
can do it, and usially do too!) That way I can keep my scanner batteries FRESH!

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From: linnig@ra.csc.ti.com (Mike Linnig)
Subject: Public-Servicing someone
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:06:35 GMT

Folks,

Here in the Dallas area I have heard police use the phrase "Public-Service"
used in a context where I assume they were going to call someone on the phone.

For example, an officer might say to the base station "would you
Public-Service so-and-so and ask them such-and-such".

I wonder if this implies that the phone company allows police to make free
calls because it is a Public-Service.  Does anyone know the meaning of this
phrase?

  -- Mike Linnig

(e.g. Do they say something like : "hello operator, this is badge 123, please
connect me with 555-1234").

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From: bemmack@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (71028000)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: rcc vs. celluar
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:23:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32789
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


Just for info, In San Luis Obispo County, CA there is a fairly large
non-cellular trunked 800MHz telephone system operating from 861-866MHz, in
the trunked business band.

-Kirk J. Smith
rosty@rat.csc.calpoly.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: ieeug464@Eagle.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: Scanners on Planes
Reply-To: ieeug464@Eagle.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: MSU
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:59:24 GMT

re
In article <1992Apr6.151845.16783@cass.ma02.bull.com>, abottone@cass.ma02.bull.com (Alessandro Bottonelli) writes:
>Jae.Kwak@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jae Kwak) writes:
>
>
>>Can any of you tell me what problems I might encounter if I
>>try to bring aboard my portable scanner onto a commerical airline
>>on my carryon luggage?  Will there be big security breaches that
>>I might violate or is it perfectly safe and legal (and not embarrasing)
>>to bring aboard a scanner?  Mine does have the 800 mhz mods done..
>>so is this a problem?.. thanx
>
>I've flown half a million miles in the last five years, half of them
>with my scanner (mine does not have 800 Mhz band however). So far no
>security officer on the ground or flight crew has ever complained.
>This include US carriers as well as European carriers like 
>Swissair, Lufthansa, and Alitalia. Try only to be as kind as to
>tell the flight crew to whom to direct complains if the pilots
>experience troubles with their electronic gear.
>
>Technically speaking, a scanner is not very different from any other kind of
>radio receiver. Depending on the band you are operating and on the emission
>of your local oscillator, you may indeed interfere with the on board
>electronics. 
>
>My experience indicates that reception from inside the aircraft is poor,
>unless you have a window seat and keep your rubber antenna abount
>30 centimeters (one foot)) from the window. Believe it or not, reception
>from OUTSIDE the aircraft is even more tricky, especially with
>station directly below your position. In fact, as a professional paratrooper
>in the italian army I did some experiments with jumping with VHF receivers
>ato receive orders from patrols right below. Well, normal transmitter
>antennas are designed not to waste radio energy to the sky. It required
>some re-design to straight things out ... Most VHF/UHF stations on
>the ground  will be designed with th the same principle ... unless
>they are AIR stations of course !
>
>Hope this helps
>-- 
>*******************************************************************************
>* Alex Bottonelli / Bull Italia                alex@hbiso.ma30.bull.com       *
>* Somewhere in EC                              uunet!hbiso!alex               *
>***********************<  My employer disagrees  >*****************************
From: gary@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Gary Mr.VAX Buchholz)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FCC DBase on disk - Here's where to get it
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:09:59 GMT
Reply-To: gary@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


We already had the Grove data base.  But it is incomplete and does not have
an update/subscription service.

The FCC record is approx 260 bytes long.  The Grove version is only 67 bytes.
Some of the things missing in the grove data base are: transmitter corrdinates,
ERP, antenna height, polarization, azimuth, licensee name, address and phone 
number, permitted modes of operation, number of licensed mobiles, base, 
aircraft, license expire date and a few more things. . .  It is the 
complete record whereas the Grove data base is truncated.

Since we spread the cost among approx 70 people it cost each person less
than what they would spend had they purchased the grove data base.  And,
we got a lot more data.

What can I say, we're scanner geeks -- we love freq data ... :)

Gary


In article <65440@apple.Apple.COM> rbn@Apple.COM (Robert B. Neville) writes:
>gary@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Gary Mr.VAX Buchholz) writes:
>
>>People have been asking about the FCC data bases.... on microfiche ...
>>.... eeeekkkkk !!
>
>>We at CARMA(Chicago Area Radio Monitoring Assoc) have purchased the
>>FCC data base on disks (they have tape as well) from
>>	Action Data Processing 
>>	1-800-526-8270
>
>>We paid about $700 for the state of Ill -- 110,000 records
>>on 17 1 Meg disk.  24 Meg of data.  We split the cost among
>>the membership.
>
>>Gary / KE9ZM
>>-- 
>>Gary Buchholz / KE9ZM			Internet: gary@midway.uchicago.edu
>>University of Chicago			Packet:   KE9ZM@N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
>>Academic and Public Computing		
>>1155 East 60'th St., Chicago, Ill.	(312) 702-7611
>
>Grove Enterprises offers the FCC Database on disk at $59.95 for one state (plus
>PC software) and $49.95 for each additional state. They can be contacted at
>704/837-7081.
>
>rbn@apple.com


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University of Chicago			Packet:   KE9ZM@N9HSI.IL.USA.NA
Academic and Public Computing		
1155 East 60'th St., Chicago, Ill.	(312) 702-7611
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From: twap8@isuvax.iastate.edu (Mike McNarney)
Subject: FCC master database
Reply-To: twap8@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 06:06:56 GMT

Is there anyone out there who has experience ordering the FCC master 
database info on microfiche? I could only find two listings in the 
university library gov docs listings:

Master Frequency Database (Frequency sequence), PB92-919300/GAR
Quarterly repts, 1992, 4 issues
The report contains the same data from the non-government frequency
assignments as the report by Service GroupPB89919401. The listing is in
frequency sequence. It includes the following files: Aviation, Broadcast,
Auxiliary Land Transportation, Public Safety, Experimental, Miscallaneous.
Also includes geographical information from the Tower File. 


Master Frequency Data Base (Service Group Code Sequence)
Quarterly, 1992, 4 issues
Contains the non-government frequency assignments. Included is data such as
class, frequency, call sign, power, mobile units, etc. The report is listed
in service group and call signsequence. Information is more compact that (sic)in Frequency Sequence File. Does not include Tower File Information. 



Phew. All that crap is verbatim, BTW. Anyway, is this the stuff I'm 
looking for? All I want is the database (microfiche of actual licenses,
whatever, I don't care) for scanner freqs, public and private, for Polk
and Story counties, Iowa. Can I even order by co. or st.? That stuff
above sounds like it is national.

The cost for above items are $450 and $750, respectively. I'm not sure
if these figures are for a single issue or what. I tried to get the
library to lay out the bucks, but no go.

Any help from anyone out there would be GREATLY appreciated.

Thanks loads,
Mike

------------------------------
Mike McNarney
twap8@isuvax.bitnet
Iowa State University, USENET censors
Ames, IA 50013-0007
515/296-8797

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From: ec49726@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Manny C. )
Subject: Re: Scanners on Planes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:59:34 GMT

abottone@cass.ma02.bull.com (Alessandro Bottonelli) writes:
>Technically speaking, a scanner is not very different from any other kind of
>radio receiver. Depending on the band you are operating and on the emission
>of your local oscillator, you may indeed interfere with the on board
>electronics. 

I used to fly last semester in a single engine airplane and I had never
heard of any rules against using scanners. (Of course the plane I was 
flying was considerably different) But since it was only a 4 seater,
(Beech Sundowner) The scanner was awfully close to the electronics and
I had never encountered any trouble with either the comm elect or any of teh
Nav instruments. (We flew IFR and VFR) The only problem I had in the air
was the "overload" of the signal when my flight partner was speaking to ATC
over the radio. (I was just a bit too close to the transmitter). I thought
it was a good idea because some of the planes I flew never encorporated the
new comm systems that have dual radios with digital readouts and flip/flop
station selection. Some of the old radios I used were the plain old Delco
like oversized selector knobs with an analog readout. SO with only this one
radio, I had to keep switching between freq. to freq to either talk with some
one or monitor the channel. It was much easier to keep a scanner for the
monitoring freq. rather than flip back and forth between channels. A pain in the 
rear.

Hope this was of interest.

**********************************************
Manny Chen                                      
NREMT-A, CPR - Instructor  American Red Cross
University Of Illinois @ Urbana - Champaign
Illini Emergency Medical Services

"I know CPR, can I help"
"I gotta VCR, can I watch"

**********************************************

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From: pnz46378@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul N. Zaremba (AA9BK))
Subject: Re: Scanners on Planes [NOT!]
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:18:31 GMT

abc@banjo.concert.net (Alan B Clegg) writes:

>This was with American Airlines, and so may differ with your carrier.

This happened to me, also. I BS'ed the stewardess and told her that it was
only a tape recorder. IMHO, PC's emit more RF energy than a little radio shack
scanner, but I may be wrong. I have no idea how much RF mine emits, but the
LO may emit some....Please correct me if I am wrong.


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From: lelanda@Ampex.COM (Dave Leland)
Subject: Cal. Bay Area....RR Fan Discussion Group
Summary: One More thing to listen to.... 
Originator: lelanda@omega
Keywords: RR Railfan 
Organization: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City CA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:13:36 GMT



This is to let all those in the S.F. Bay Area know, that there is a
moderated Railfan discusion group currently operating on 145.330.
This is a repeater on Mt. Diablo, so it covers most of the Bay Area.
The group meets every Wed. at 20:00.
I'm not a ham, so I just listen in....

BTW....are there any other ham type groups out there in radio land ?????
It would nice to know about, if there are, so one could listen in when
traveling through the area.  

Dave Leland..........lelanda@ampex.com
From: Jae.Kwak@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jae Kwak)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Scanners on Planes
Date: 4 Apr 92 20:56:55 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service


Can any of you tell me what problems I might encounter if I
try to bring aboard my portable scanner onto a commerical airline
on my carryon luggage?  Will there be big security breaches that
I might violate or is it perfectly safe and legal (and not embarrasing)
to bring aboard a scanner?  Mine does have the 800 mhz mods done..
so is this a problem?.. thanx

JS Kwak
--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: meharp01@vlsi.louisville.edu (Michael Harpe)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Scanner lingo
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:09:25 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

We're lucky here in Louisville.  LPD uses plain English transmission for most
things.  In a way it's funny, they use plain English for things that I think are
kind of sensitive, but they try to conceal other thigns with "10" codes.  The
bad part is it's pretty easy to deduce what's going from the traffic that 	follows.

As I said in a previous post, all the "good" stuff is sent on Channel 5 using
encrypted radios.  Sigh.

Mike Harpe, N4PLE
University of Louisville
From: dans@rehab2.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Car Phones
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:36:11 GMT
Reply-To: dans@rehab2.UUCP (Dan Schein)
Distribution: na
Organization: Reading Rehab Hospital, Reading PA

In article <603@hsdndev.UUCP> nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219) writes:
>I pick up alot of car phone transmissions on my scanner.
>And the number of frequencies keeps growing every week. Do
>cellular phone companies inform its users when they
>install the service that the the customers will be
>using public airwaves and that their conversations can be
>heard by thousands of people out there?

   Your picking these up on a 2nd or 3rd IF in your scanner right? Because
  the ECPA makes it illegal for you to directly monitor them. But then you
  knew that, right...

   Somewhere on the rear of each cellular service agreememnt I have signed
  (Cellular One & Bell Atlantic) this is mentioned. Its not very easy to
  find since its mixed in with all the legal mumbo jumbo, not to mention
  the size of print used.

   The fun thing to do is head into one of those electronic stores where
  they have racks of TV's in use. Find the older style tuners (the manual
  tuning style) with full UHF (to ch 83). Then set them up to monitor cell
  calls ;-)

   I treat my cell phone like my cordless. Both are used the same as if I
  was in my backyard with a loud speaker. Nothing secret takes place....

  -Dan
-- 
  Reading Rehabilitation Hospital        _/\_        Those who worked the
  Dan Schein - Information Systems      \    /      hardest, are the last
  RD 1 Box 250                          /_  _\      to surrender.
  Reading, PA 19607                       \/           -= Gary Ward =-

  dans@rehab2.UUCP   -or-   ....{uunet,rutgers}!cbmvax!rehab1!rehab2!dans
From: meharp01@vlsi.louisville.edu (Michael Harpe)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: FCC DBase on disk - Here's where to get it
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:20:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: vlsi.1992Apr15.142058.6194
Organization: University of Louisville

rbn@Apple.COM (Robert B. Neville) writes:

>Grove Enterprises offers the FCC Database on disk at $59.95 for one state (plus
>PC software) and $49.95 for each additional state. They can be contacted at
>704/837-7081.

This is a good deal.  I have the Kentucky and Indiana databases.  The files are
in dBase III format, so it's easy to write your own query and report programs
using any number of programs for this purpose.  Make sure you have an
uncompress program that does .LZH style decompression.  You only get theirs
if you buy the software.

Happy scanning!

Mike Harpe, N4PLE
University of Louisville
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: jdwhite@iastate.edu (Jason White)
Subject: Re: FCC licenses
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:20:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.141926.1741@news.iastate.edu> twap8@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>Is there a way I can get the freqs for a specific license? I am still trying
>to track down additional ISU freqs, and I have the license call letters:
>KAJ316, WNAP512. Can someone tell me how I can get copies of this license
>or something so I can get the freqs? I tried the DPS goomballs, but they
>told me to go to Radio Shack.

Looking in the '92 edition of Police Call, I find that KAJ316 is licensed to
the following freqs:
	460.1000 (Output)
	460.4750
	465.1000 (Input--I don't usually program these in to my scanner)
	 37.2600 (Never heard anything on this one)

and WNAP512 is found under the "Juvenile Home" heading with a freq. of:
	155.0550

There are other University freqs. as well, but those are the freqs for the
the call letters you mentioned as far as I can tell.  There is no listing by
call sign, so I just browsed through the Ames listings.

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From: twap8@isuvax.iastate.edu (Mike McNarney)
Subject: Scanner lingo
Reply-To: twap8@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:57:15 GMT

Here at Iowa State, the night dispatcher will say she "has to go down
the hall" when she wants a cop to relieve her so she can go relieve
herself.

-----------------------
Mike McNarney
twap8@isuvax.bitnet
Iowa State University, USENET censors
Ames, Iowa 50013-0007
515/296-8797
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From: mam28@cas.org ()
Subject: Pro-36 mods???
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:19:46 GMT


Well, I've checked the back messages at my site (very few).
I could not find anything concerning mods for my new pro-36.

I would like to at least fill in the gaps in its spectrum:
30-54, 108-136, 136.005-174, 380-512 (MHz).
Are there any mods?  What/where are the FTP sites for this group?

I haven't listened to a scanner for about 12 years.  Things
sure have changed since my parents had a 10 channel (crystal) Regency.

Entertaining tho!

Thanks in advance

Mike
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All opinions expressed are my own.
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From: dougb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Douglas Bank)
Subject: Re: "I can't talk about that on the radio"
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:30:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.135417.13829@vlsi.louisville.edu> meharp01@vlsi.louisville.edu (Michael Harpe) writes:
>
>The city police here have gone to the CVSD scambled system so it's moot 
>anyway.....

Good for them...... (look at my .sig)

Actually, CVSD is not a scrambler, it is just an analog-to-digital
converter.  The actual encryption is then done digitally.



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From: ccat@netcom.com (Chris Beaumont)
Subject: Re: Monterey Bay Area/ Santa Barbera County(Santa Maria) Freqs
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 07:15:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

..
Does anybody know the Mir space station frequencies (voice) ?
I hear that they are quite easy to hear- but on what frequency / time ?
What kind of antenna would be best...?

.

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