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From: gezelter@rlgsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: SMG$ routines: Just how non-reenterent are they?
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:52:01 EST
Distribution: na
Organization: Robert Gezelter Software Consultant, Flushing, NY

In article <1992Dec14.164356.28810@bnlux1.bnl.gov>, kushmer@bnlux1.bnl.gov (christopher kushmerick) writes:
> The manual says that SMG$ is not reenterent (spelling?).
> 
> Does this mean that I should disable ASTs from occuring arounds each smg call 
> if my program uses AST routines triggered by timers, $qios et cetera?
> 
> Or does it only mean that I should not do any SMG routines in any ASTs that may
> interrupt a SMG routine?
> 
> Thankyou
> 
> -- 
> Chris Kushmerick
> kushmer@bnlux1.bnl.gov
-- 
Chris,
 
When a routine is marked as "non re-entrant", it means that it 
can be called from EITHER normal program state or from AST state, 
but not both at the same time. This does not mean that other 
facilities in the same image cannot process ASTs, just that they 
must not invoke the non re-entrant routine.
 
The question of whether a routine can operate in AST state is a 
different question. In my experience, most routines which are non 
re-entrant can be run from AST state, so long as they are only 
used from AST state. Offhand, I cannot categorically state that 
SMG is ok from AST state.
 
On a related topic, I have rarely if ever seen a situation where 
it is necessary to inhibit AST recognition. Almost all examples 
where people suggest Inhibiting/Enabling AST Recognition are 
better (IMHO) done using either a) interlocked instructions, or 
b) processed in AST state through the use of the $DCLAST system 
seervice.
 
I hope that the above information is helpful. If I can be of 
further assistance, please feel free to contact me via phone or 
Email.
 
- Bob
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From: SYSMGR@IPG.PH.KCL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re: Splitting a user disk
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:20:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

As previous responses have pointed out, the first element in the search
list must be the disk with the user's directory on. You can arrange this
right with a bit of DCL in SYLOGIN.COM, along the lines of

$ USER := 'F$GETJPI("","USERNAME")
$ IF F$SEARCH("DISK_A:[000000]''USER'.DIR;1).EQS.""
$ THEN
$   ASSIGN DISK_B:,DISK_A:  DISK:   !user's directory on DISK_B, or neither.
$ ELSE
$   ASSIGN DISK_A:,DISK_B:  DISK:   !user's directory is on DISK_A
$ ENDIF

However, when I asked about bound volume sets the consensus was that they
are an ideal solution for the problem of enlarging a 'disk' with a set of
user-directories on it. Only significant caveat seemed to be a halved MTBF
because failure of either disk in the set puts all your users' filestores out
of service, rather than just half of them. If you want to know LOTS about
bound volumes get hold of info-VAX archives for late October to November,
they got a very good airing there.

		Nigel Arnot

		NRA%ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk   (internet)
		NRA%uk.ac.kcl.ph.ipg@ukacrl.bitnet        (bitnet)


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: jtruitt@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Jim Truitt)
Subject: RFI: What are some good software development tools for a VAX 4000?
Reply-To: jtruitt@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Jim Truitt)
Organization: Harris GISD
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:01:59 GMT

Hi,

	I'm new to this group, so this may be a FAQ.

	I'm beginning work on a new project that will be using VAX workstations and VAX
4000s. We need all kinds of project management/software development tools. I'm
requesting
suggestions for these types of tools:

	project cost and schedule management
	word processing package with graphics capability for pictures
	spreadsheet
	code management
	performance analysis
	configuration management
	build management
	graphical user interface builders
	etc.....

Thanks
Jim Truitt
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From: chabotaa@vax1.bham.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Wildcard Logical Name Translation
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:57:33 GMT
Organization: University of Birmingham
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.bham.ac.uk


Is there any way to perform wildcard logical name translations as DCL does ?
e.g. SHOW LOGI XYZZY*

The SYS$TRNLNM call appears to require an explicit name to be specified.


Tony Chabot
From: kjb@calmasd.prime.com (Ken Brucker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: MOVE for VMS
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:04:33 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego CA

In article <1992Dec15.121324.15765@slcs.slb.com>, brydon@asl.slb.com (Harvey Brydon (918)250-4312) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec14.114916.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu>, churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell) writes...
>>#In article <1992Dec14.134203.382@ifi.unizh.ch>,
>>#mueller@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Eric Mueller) writes:
>>#>> I am looking for a Vms MOVE command (I'ld prefer a fully Vms command
>>#>> which allows /LOG, /CONFIRM, /EXCLUDE etc. qualifiers).
>>#> 
>>#> What about a simple RENAME oldfile.lis newfile.lis?? I think this is
>>#> doing what you want, isnt it.
>># 
>>#Except that RENAME doesn't work across devices, so you can't move files
>>#from disk to disk using this method.
> 
> The backup command might be a bit safer:
> 
> $ move == "$ backup /delete"
> 
> (except that you don't get the /confirm qualifier)

You don't?  It works for me!  Give it a try...backup/delete/confirm and it asks
if you wish to copy each file specified as input.

Ken

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: NL0242T@NLZCL (Oscar van Eijk)
Subject: Move command: thanks
Organization: Philips Communication & Processing Services
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:02:49 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Hi There,

I'ld like to thank the following people who responded to my MOVE- question:

     Roy.Omond@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE    (Roy Omond)
     carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU       (Carl J Lydick)
     GORDON@chmeds.ac.nz             (Gordon Findlay)
     JFL@HOBBES.CCA.CR.ROCKWELL.COM  (Joe Lawrence)
     lbmoore@tchden.org              (Louis B. Moore)
     DWING@UH01.Colorado.Edu         (Dan Wing)
     mueller@avalon.physik.unizh.ch  (Eric Mueller)
     churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell)
and offcourse everybody else who already followed-up/replied a message I haven't
received yet.

I was in fact looking for a program who would MOVE files (I know RENAME works,
but not when I want to move files to another device), but the solution was
very simple:

    MOVE :== "BACKUP/DELETE"

does exactly what I was looking for.

Thanx,
Oscar.


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From: DAN@OJC.Colorado.EDU (Kornphuzed Kid!!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Conclusion: Mail compress/file tuning.
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:23:45 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hello VAXers!!!!

	I think we narrowed the mail compression and file tuning problems we've
been having on our RZ26 drives down to the version of VMS we're running, which
is 5.4-2.  This version apparently doesn't support this type of disk.  Thanks
go to Dan Wing for his help and to anybody who replied whose message(s) I
haven't received yet.  Thanks once again.
	
	Does anybody know of a way to get a list of supported disk types for
various versions of VMS??  Thanks.


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From: jogl@merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Re: How to prevent login.com from running.
Date: 18 Dec 1992 09:24:15 GMT
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
NNTP-Posting-Host: merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de


hi,

i have seen many answers for this question, but the simplest one
was not mentioned:

there are some "hidden flags" for the login procedure.
               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
see HELP LOGIN for details.

if you do not like LOGIN.COM to run just login as:
______________________________

Username: <your-account> /NOCOMMAND 
Password: <as normal>    ~~~~~~~~~~
______________________________

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From: samra@twics.co.jp
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: OS2 TO VMS TRANSFERS
Date: 12 Dec 92 12:16:27 GMT
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan

Does anybody know of an OS2/VMS transfer protocol similar to the KERMIT
DOS/VMS transfer utilities (preferably a bit faster!). I need to send some OS2
files from the PC to a VAX8700 and am looking for any products that can do
this.
From: dragon@NSCVAX.PRINCETON.EDU (Mighty Firebreather)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: 3RD Party Vendors of VAX storage alternatives
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:44:05 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	Stephen LaBelle <LABELLES@ZENO.MSCD.EDU> writes:
>
>I am looking for names of reputable manufacturers of 3rd Party VAX disk
>storage alternatives. I know of only EMULUX.
>
>Also if anyone has had bad experiences with any third party disk?
>
>I need to specify disk alternatives to management whom sign checks!
>
>Do not need product specifics, just manufacturer names. I will contact
>them concerning details.
>

	That's EMULEX, not EMULUX.

	Many SCSI disk drives can be used as-is with DEC equipment that 
supports them.  Manufacturers are: Seagate Technology, Micropolis, Maxtor 
Corp, Quantum, System Industries, Hitachi, Toshiba, Fujitsu, etc.  The only
way to learn if a particular make and model will work is to try it or to
ask someone who has tried it. 

	Direct replacments for other DEC drives such as the RA and RF 
series are not available (DEC has patented key portions of the technology
and, as far as I know, has not licensed it).  You would have to buy a third
party controller as well as the disk drives.  There are third party SCSI,
ESDI, and SMD controllers available from Andromeda Systems Inc, Aviv Corp.,
Cypress Technologies, Dilog, Emulex, Webster Computer Corp., etc.  Many of
these have been known to break with new releases of VMS; the emulation of
DEC's controller is less than perfect. 

	Some emulations have been so far from perfect as to cause
corruption of the disk due to the correct and proper use of legal and
documented I/O functions.  In particular, the Emulex QD32 and QD33
controllers failed to properly execute the IO$M_DATACHECK function causing
corruption of data. 

	Third party peripherals can save you money.  They can provide 
functionality that is simply not available from DEC.  They also carry a 
rather large risk.

	DEC Field Service will take some third party equipment on a 
maintenance contract.  Don't expect them to stock parts locally however
(unless you put a large number of the same make and model on contract).


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To: gnu-gcc-announce@uunet.uu.net
From: kushmer@bnlux1.bnl.gov (christopher kushmerick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,gnu.gcc.help
Subject: Loading gcc 2.2 from Mango
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:27:18 GMT
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory
Distribution: world
Approved: info-gnu@prep.ai.mit.edu
Followup-To: comp.os.vms,gnu.gcc.help

I grabbed the files from mango for gnu gcc 2.2  . From the first file, 
I used backup to extract a file, KITINSTAL.COM, which is a com file that
builds everything.


However KITINSTAL.COM dies on my computer after asking for a top
directory for BISON. The comment is "Object of call not found" or 
something close to that.

Has anyone else had trouble with this instal com file? Has it worked fine for
people?

I tried telling it that I did not want to install bison. It dies anyway
with the same message. So I doubt that the problem is with setting up the
Bison directory.

Has anyone modified the install com to work? If so, could you mail me your
version?

thanks



-- 
Chris Kushmerick
kushmer@bnlux1.bnl.gov
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Re: How to prevent login.com from running.
Date: 19 Dec 1992 12:43:13 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1gs5bvINNcj2@urmel.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>, jogl@merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#) writes:
>i have seen many answers for this question, but the simplest one
=was not mentioned:
=
=there are some "hidden flags" for the login procedure.
=               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
=see HELP LOGIN for details.

They're not "hidden."  As you noted, they're documented.  They're not "flags,"
they're qualifiers.  We're talking about VMS here, not Unix.

=if you do not like LOGIN.COM to run just login as:
=______________________________
=
=Username: <your-account> /NOCOMMAND 
=Password: <as normal>    ~~~~~~~~~~

Tell us, oh wise one:  How does one do this via RSHELL?  That's what the
original question was about.  The more general question was:  How does one
prevent execution of LOGIN.COM for NETWORK and ONLY NETWORK processes.
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Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: adufour@ulys.unil.ch
Subject: EDT to EVE command translation problem
Organization: University of Lausanne - CH (Switzerland)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:55:04 GMT

I read a few days ago the Info-Vax monthly Posted - Part 3 - 'SIG,
I was really interested in getting the file I reply to in my editor, with
the cute little ">" at the beginning of each old line.
So I tried it, and it seems to work... but:

I was using the EVE/TPU editor, and I like it, so I would like to know 
the translation of this EDT command in an EVE Command that I could put in
an EVE init file.

The EDT command is :

>  C; ER -L 32000(62ASC -2L) ER EX     (it is explained in the Info-Vax file)

Any help would be very apreciated.

PS: Please send the mails to me, I'll summarize then for the list...
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From: jim@accelr8.com (Jim Reiss)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: HELP!!!!!! a good editor for a SUN
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:17:57 GMT
Organization: Accelr8 Technology Corporation

>There's a company your side of the pond who produce several such products,
>VCL which puts a DCL cli onto UNIX, an EDT implimentation and I think a 
>VMSmail front end.. Their name escapes me now but I have some info in the 
>office which I can mail you tomorrow..
>
>Looks to me like a product which should be compulsory on all Unix boxes...
Their name is Boston Business Computing.  We also have a DCL implementation,
called Open DCL.  We have a TPU offering which was developed by a/Soft,
called nu/TPU.  In addition, we have a number of VMS migration products
including emulations of many of the VMS run-time library, system service,
and RMS functions.
-- 
 Jim Reiss (jim@accelr8.com)    Accelr8 Technology, Denver, Colorado, USA
 Opinions expressed above are mine.  Who else would have them?
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell)
Subject: RE: MOVE for VMS
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:49:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.134203.382@ifi.unizh.ch>,
mueller@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Eric Mueller) writes:
>> I am looking for a Vms MOVE command (I'ld prefer a fully Vms command
>> which allows /LOG, /CONFIRM, /EXCLUDE etc. qualifiers).
> 
> What about a simple RENAME oldfile.lis newfile.lis?? I think this is
> doing what you want, isnt it.

Except that RENAME doesn't work across devices, so you can't move files
from disk to disk using this method.
-- 
Kimberly B. Churchwell, Prog./Analyst, Okla. State U.  | TANSTAAFL, but
Osteopathic College--churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu   | even so, I never
BIX--kchurchwell  AOL--KChurchwel  CIS--72170,1552     | quit hoping.
From: linnoise@bigboy (LN)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: What should be in login.com?
Date: 18 Dec 92 10:55:07 GMT
Organization: Temple University

Anything you want.  I have mine set up logicals and symbols to access dirs
that have very long names, prompt me for various things like enabling OPCOM
(check for interactive mode before prompting!), setting up mail to use EVE,
and all sorts of things.  You are only limited by your imagination and your
tolerance for the delay a long login.com would cause each time you log on.

--
---linnoise@129.32.32.98  My opinions are strictly those of my own.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: billb@crpmks.uucp (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Subject: Re: MOVE for Vms anywhere ?
Reply-To: billb@crpmks.UUCP (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems))
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Corporation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:36:46 GMT

In article <4046351@zl2tnm.gen.nz> don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
>ARNE@KOPC.HHS.DK (Arne Vajhxj) writes:
>>   MOVE:==@disk:[dir]MOVE.COM
>>
>> where MOVE.COM contains:
>>
>> $ if f$parse(p1,,,"DEVICE") .eqs. f$parse(p2,,,"DEVICE")
>> $ then
>> $     rename 'p1' 'p2' 'p3' 'p4' 'p5' 'p6' 'p7' 'p8'
>> $ else
>> $     copy 'p1' 'p2' 'p3' 'p4' 'p5' 'p6' 'p7' 'p8'
>> $     delete 'p1'
>> $ endif
>> $ exit
>>
>> There is still a few restrictions compared with a real DCL command:
>>   - qualifiers must be specified after the parameters
>>   - if the COPY/DELETE is used, then version numbers must be specified
>
>  $ MOVE VERY-IMPORTANT.FILE; WHOOPS-I-MADE-A-MISTAKE.###
>  %DCL-W-PARMDEL, invalid parameter delimiter, check use of special characters
>  $ DIR VERY-IMPORTANT.FILE
>  %DIRECT-W-NOFILES, no files found
>
>Guys, how about a bit of quality control in your examples... 8-)


What caused that?  The delete should not have run if the copy failed (set noon 
was not done at the beginnin).  What gives?
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: MOVE for Vms anywhere ?
Date: 19 Dec 1992 12:56:19 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Dec18.094143.8053@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>, NL0242T@NLZCL (Oscar van Eijk) writes:
>In <1go1h5INNik@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>
>> The original question was not well-posed, since the querant didn't bother to
>> tell us exactly what this "MOVE" command was supposed to do.
>
>I doubt that; till now you're the only one who didn't seem to understand that.

You think so?  Then why did someone recommend "RENAME" when what the querant
wanted was "BACKUP"?  You really ought to read more of the thread before
mouthing off.
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Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: HOUGHTON@jylk.jyu.fi (DAVID HOUGHTON, LK)
Subject: Request for VMS/DCL Noddy Guide
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:22:32 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

Hello

Has anybody written a simple 3 or 4 page guide to VMS
and DCL for novice users ?

If so, I would appreciate a copy

Dave
From: nllopis@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: anonymous mail?!?
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:53:12 GMT
Distribution: world

In article <01GS5GWJYVCY8WW5SC@kopc.hhs.dk>, ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj) writes:
>> Does anyone know how to send anonymous VMS Mail messages?  I don't have
>> SYS privileges nor OPERATOR privileges.
> 
> I do not hope anyone will help you with this !
Too late for this one.
> 
> I do consider myself rather tolerant, but this request gives me a bad
> taste in the mouth.
> 
> I find it very hard to think at any benefits from sending mail anonymously
> unless you plan to send insulting messages to your boss or something like
Oh, c'mon. You are no phun! Don't tell me you wouldn't have
some good time with something like that uh? 
( I certainly do |)
> that.
> 
> I will suggest you start doing something usefull on that VAX !
Hmm.. that's true, Bri. Better do something usefull... 
.. like forwarding the Daily Rag anonymously! 
> 
				Anonymous
				  ^--- Just kiddin' about this.
>                                                           Arne
> 
> Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
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> 
>