HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Subject: Re: Tirupati,
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:29:32 GMT

In article <Btuvzs.32M@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>, srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
> 
> The following points are also worth noting.
> 
> 1. Srinivasan is indeed a very common name among vaishnavas, but
> 'venkateswaran', venkataraman are very very rare among vaishnavas.
> 'thiru venkata chari', thiru vEngadam, thiru malai are common though!
> 
> 2. ManimEgalai, believed to be the first work to mention the existance
> of a temple on top of thiru vEngadam, does not say, which deity
> is there, as early as 200 AD.
> 
> 3. It is possible that there was a monument to the chieftain of the
> hills, worshipped by the local people. Depending on the  religious
> allegience of the local people, the god represented by the idol
> could have changed.
> 
> 4. When Sri Ramanuja offered him the choice of Vaishnava and Saiva
> symbols in 11-th century AD, behind a locked door, he must have
> picked up the Vaishnava symbols, because he already had some saiva
> symbols on him. He still has them!! Or it could have also indicated
> who had the 'duplicate keys'.
> 
> K. Srinivasan  srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca

   Very interesting ! 

   I have also heard that one of the main reasons
   for incredible number of people thronging to Thiruppathi is due
   to some chakram imbedded somewhere - was it by KonkaNa chiththar ?
   There are supposed to be samadhi's of two famous chiththars in Thirumalai..
   Any one can throw more light on these ?

   Thanks
   anbudan
   Selva Selvakumar

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar)
Subject: Re: India Today - Pay for Top actors
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:26:52 GMT

In article <42199@ogicse.ogi.edu> partha@mse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy) writes:
>I think some one posted this in SCI recently. According to India
>Today Rajanikant is the highest paid Tamil actor now (Rs. 1Crore
>per movie). When I had been to India sometime back, Rajanikant
>was starting some charity organization. It is commendable that
>he made it to where he is now through sheer talent. Wonder how
>much Kamal Hassan demands per movie. Though he is a great actor,
>I get the feeling that he doesn't have such a following in TN
>as Rajani does. Any speculations as to why this is so? Netters?

Yeah you are right. Kamal Hassan doesn't have the mass following Rajanikanth
has. I think it is a matter of public relations rather than the acting ability
of the stars. Kamal is very very reserved and he is not comfortable with crowds.
Rajani on the other hand is more gregarious and never fails to satisfy his
fans when they come to his house or studio. And Rajani seems to have no ego
problems unlike Kamal and hence he is able to move freely with everyone. Also
Kamal appeals to the upper middle class audience whereas Rajani appeals to the
lower rungs[based on their movies and their acting].

>
>Partha sarathy
>
>NB: Thalaivar Rajanikant Vaazhga! (Just kidding..)

Sincerely yours,
M.P.Premkumar

NB: NetRaiya "Manithan", inRaiya "Mannan", naaLaiya muthal amaicher aNNan Rajani
vaazhga! [this is the popular "gOsham" in TN now]
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From: st1oc@jane.uh.edu (Satish, Kumar S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: MY CURIOSITY KINDLED.....
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:33:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi Netfolks,
I thought of sharing my observation about our language,
Tamizh.

**The utility of the letter "KEE" and its variations. 
Usually when we converse with each other, we
use ...
EXAMPLES:
1. "pantu( pant)    Keentu vaanginiyaa?"
2. "Saakku( sack )  Keeku  irukkaa?"
3. "Nursing         Kising(!) ellaam ivanga dhaanaa?"
4. "Paper	    Keeper  edhaachchum irukkaa?"
4. "Maapillai	    Keepillai yaarum kaanalaye?"

And  I can site Zillions more...... you can go on.

WHY DO WE ALWAYS USE THE LETTER "KEE" AND ITS VARIATIONS
IN THE CONVERSATIONS. IS THERE ANY SPECIAL MEANING?
NOW THAT WE HAVE SOME WONDERFUL MINDS IN THIS NET, I 
WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME EXPLANATIONS FOR THIS LONG-
STANDING QUERY OF MINE.

thanks........

--'egherzhaaghi'

"Potruvaar potralum thootruvaar thootralum 
 Pogattum Kannanuke"
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From: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Suprabhatam at Tirumala
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:36:11 GMT
Reply-To: srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan)
Organization: IREQ, Hydro-Quebec, QC, Canada
Originator: srini@acr

The Suprabhatam now used in the Tirumala Temple was introduced by
Sri Vedanta desikar (around 1200 AD?), founder of Vadagalai
branch of Sri Vaishnavism. Following the 30 minute suprabhatam
are several hours of recitals from the compositions of Tamil
aazhwars, every day. Before the recent introduction of
Suprabhatham the day should have started with 'thiru paLLi
ezhuchchi' (Tamil suprabhatam).

K. Srinivasan
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From: mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca (m vishnu)
Subject: Annadurai Part 4
Originator: mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:18:10 GMT



On C.N.Annadurai  from the PhD thesis of Charles Ryerson, "Regionalism and
Religion, The Tamil Renaissance and Popular Hinduism".


In discussing the social impact of the DMK as it related to 
Tamil Nadu's religious culture, one must mention Annadurai's
attitude towards women's rights.  Following EVR, he strongly
supported widow marriage.  His novels Kumasthevin Pen and
Rangoon Radha stressed the emancipation of women.  In Naadum 
Yedum, a group of articles drawn largely from his editorials 
in Dravida Nadu, he attacked the story of Iyarpakai Nayanar
which appeared in the ancient Periya Puranam.  In the story,
Iyapakai, a merchant prince of the great Chola seaport, gave
whatever he possessed to Siva Shaktas.  One day a sensual sage 
stood before him and asked him for his wife.  Iyarpakai gave
her to him but the sage turned out to be Siva, who blessed
the pious couple for their total devotion[31]. Annadurai asked
"why did Iyarpakai send his wife along with the Bramin without
her consent ? Why did the wife not question the 
arrangement ? [32] To him it was an example of "typical" 
Hindu story which degraded women.

footnotes
31. See Suddhanandha Bharati "The Grand Epic of Saivaism" pp16-21
32. C.N Annadurai, Naadum Yedum Kancheepuram p 16.

(to be continued ...)

Meenan Vishnu 
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From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: kamban-ramanin kamak kaN
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:04:35 GMT

  To continue our discussion on the eyes:

kamban also says in paalakaandam.

 nOkia nOkku yenum
   nuthikoL vEl iNai
(Sita's eyes and sight of sharp spears) 
 aakiya mathukai
  yaan thOLin aazhnthana
(pierced the strong shoulder's of raman)

 vIkiya kaNaikazhal
  veeran sengkaNum
(the man with kazhal-leg ornament i.e Raman's red eyes-kamak kaN)
 thaaku aNangku anaiya

  avaL thanathil thaithavE.

i(pierced the breast's of Sita)

kamban oru vamban thaan aiyaah!
 
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From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT)
Subject: Re: R.Thiagarajan Vs Niroshan Perera
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:44:38 GMT

-Message-Text-Follows-

In article <1992Aug23.174910.14328@wuecl.wustl.edu>, sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes...
>[ Posted for : M.P.Krishna Raj ( raj@cs.odu.edu ) ]
> 
>----------- M.P.Krishna Raj's article ---------------------------- 
>In article <9208202105.AA15560@ni.umd.edu> reuss@ni.umd.edu writes:
>>> In article <1992Aug20.134023.27704@engage.pko.dec.com> you write:
> 
>>> I am sorry that Thiyagarajan was the target of hatemail.  As you rightly
> 
>>
>>12 minutes after reveiving your message I received a message from
>>niro@wam.umd.edu stating that someone had broken into his account and
>>deleted all of his files.  The timing of him message tends to make
>>me very suspicious.  
>>
>>I believe niro@wam.umd.edu is Niroshan Perera, an undergraduate
>>student.  I have not yet attempted to contact him. I will dig
>>through log files and try to gather more evidence.
>>
>>
>>-Karl Reuss
>> Computer Science Center     
>> University of Maryland, College Park MD 20742-2411   /   (301) 405-2995
> 
>Dear Mr.R.Thyagarajan,
> 
>You accused Tamils for the email you received.
>It is Niroshan Perera, Mr.Thyagarajan.
>      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>What are you going to do?

You must have seen Mr Asokan's posting. I also got mail from both Niroshan and
Perera saying that his account was broken by an intruder.

What are you going to do?

> 
>"The self-proclaimed commanders of the net like Mr. Sundara Pandian, Mr Krishna
>Raj will not condemn this. They condemn only if you write against Mr Vishnu's
>views. What a double standard?
> 
> 
>What is this? You are exited and questioned my integrity.

I am still questioning

>You are working for DEC and you can clearly see the message is
I no nothing about Unix that is why I posted the entire mail
>from umd.
> 
>>>% Received: from wam.umd.edu by surya.waterloo.edu.bedinet (4.1/SMI-4.1)id AA29998; Wed, 19 Aug 92 12:05:15 EST
> 
>Instead of finding the truth calmly you created flutter in SCT.
> 

>Why should I jump into the bandwagon ?I suspected that it
>was the work of someone in U.of. Maryland. It has been proved beyond
>any doubt now. 
> 
>You have blind hatred against island tamils. Your tirade
>against them and has spoiled their reputation until now. 

Common, I do not hate all sri-lankan tamilians, I do not like LTTE and its
jalras

> 
>          They are really great.
	Yes agree. Especially radio and roopavahini which I enjoyed much
> 
> 
>M.P.Krishna Raj
> 
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From: ketha@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (KETHEESWARAN/NANNITHAMBY/MR)
Subject: Re: A Humble Request .......
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 03:28:29 GMT

In article <18317.2a9a46fa@ecs.umass.edu> vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>>I am getting tired of replying to these postings. Will these guys stop
>>especially sri-lankans like Mr Vishnu so that we can discuss some useful 
>>things other than these castes? I have noticed that sri-lankans have less
>>tolerance to other people. Pl try to live with others.
>
>>I won't be surprised if they ask for Canadian Ezham after some years in
>>Toronto.
>
>key words: getting tired, these guys, especially Sri-Lankans, less tolerance,
>           Canadian Ezham
>
>	This REQUEST is addressed to the concerned Sri Lankan readers:  
>
>	This newsgroup should not become a battle ground because of few sense-
>less posters.  I (and many others, I believe) voted YES  for the  creation of
>SCTamil to have a forum to  discuss various things on Tamil and Tamil  people.
>Arguments and discussions are good and important, as far as they are healthy. 
> 
>	Mr Thiyagarajan makes a great generalization about the characteristics
>of Sri Lankans.  Even he makes a request (suggestion)!  The motive of his post-
>ing is very clear.  Sri Lankans  need not to prove how tolerant they are.  S/N
>ratio of SCIndia and SCSri-Lanka would be a better indicator for that.  Before
>posting a follow-up  article to Thiyagarajan's  posting, pl think again.  Even
>5 follow-up articles would be a success for him (Read his note again. The last
>line about  Canadian Ezham clearly explains his motive.  Remember his postings,
>Periyar Temple, Gita etc?).  For the  sake of cleaner SCTamil, can Sri Lankans 
>in the net keep them away from a possible  follow-up war which Mr Thiyagarajan
>initiates?  Pl don't worry about RT's next posting "..mounam means yes...".
>
>Sensless follow-ups would be neglected,

 Don't worry Vicky, At least I (Eelam Tamil) am ignoring the postings
 by Mr.Thiyagarajan and the people like him in SCt. Best solution, as you 
 told, is ignoring their posting like we did in s.c.s-l (posted by ex-P).

 Remember a proverb:

 Kaakam kaththi maadu saavathillai.     

>Vicky:
>UMass, Aug 25

 _Ketha.








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From: gt4084c@prism.gatech.EDU (SRINIVASAN,K)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: kamban-Ramaayanam
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:45:52 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <kat.715463345@sarek> kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:

<deleted some sandham konjum paadalgaL>

There is one more that I remember in which Kamban uses a sandham
reflecting what is going on in the story:

When Kumbakarnan had to be woken up for the war, it seems they used
ulakkais.  I remember only the first two lines of the verse which
sounds like the action:

uRanguginRa kumbakarNa, ungaL maaya vazhvelaam
iRanguginRa dhinRu kaaN, ezhundiraay, ezhundhiraay
----------------

iRanguginRadhu + inRu 

Can anybody complete the verse?  Also can somebody post a translation
for the verse posted by Kathiravan?  Thanks.
-- 
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From: bkannan@ha06.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: echo words, doublets, pair words
Date: 27 Aug 1992 18:06:07 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu




Selva Selvakumar writes:

>       Yes, mUlai mudukku is very popular where *both* the words "mUlai

>       mUlai mudukku will be a doublet which in Tamil is called "iNai mozhi"


              Some more iNai mozhi
              [or so I believe]

               veedu vilaasam
               kashta nashtam              [T'ized Skt]
               sandhu pondhu (noun)
               karadu mo(u)radu(adj)?
               mootai mudichchu?(noun)
               mutti mOdhi(adv) ?
               thattu thadumari (adv)?
               verkka virivirukka (adv)
               aadi asanji (adv)
               urundu perandu (adv)
               niruthi nidhaanama (adv)
               kelvi ketpaadu - not sure.
               thedi thu(o)lavi

>       doublets "kala kala enRu siriththaaL" = she laughed heartily
>       ( kala kala is known as olikuRippu) and this doublet is called
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
         
                    Onomatopeia? Well, here are some more:

           ---------------------------------------------------------
                 silu silu [nu Kaaththu adikarathu]
                           [different from c(j)hillu kaaththu]
                 thara thara [nu izhuthundu..]
                 vallu vallu [nu Kuraika...]
                 pada pada [nu nenju....]
                 veel veel [nu kaththaraan..] [kuvaa kuvaa also]
                                              [keech keech also]
                                              [labO labO also]

                 kAvi kAvi [azhudaan..]       [vikki vikki]
                                              [nai nai - pestilential
                                                         cribbing]
                 vala vala [nu pAsadhA]

                 gara gara [nu thondai/ku(o)ral]

              The noun "kaakaa" itself is of onomatopeic origin, it appears.
           -------------------------------------------------------------


              Any more that you can think of? Please add to the list.


          anbudan
          bk
From: Ramesh TNK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Looking for S.R.Pandian
Date: 28 Aug 92 07:06:06 GMT
Reply-To: romx@babies.frec.bull.fr
Organization: Bull SA Echirolles / France

Keywords: 
   Hello Everyody,
                 I am looking for one Mr. S.R.Pandian ,Ph.D from the dept. of Elec. Eng
 , IIT Delhi. If his address or email is known to anybody, please mail to the following
  address. Thank you in advance.
 Ramesh TNK,
A1-034, BULL S.A
1,Rue de provence
38432 Echirolles CEDEX
FRANCE
email : ramesh@sm14.frec.bull.fr
Phone : 33 - 76 39 75 00 (ext. 7342)
      : 33 - 76 40 47 38 (res)
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: kamban-Ramaayanam
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:49:05 GMT

In <78950@ut-emx.uucp> krshna@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (kishore krshna) writes:

>>kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi) writes:
>>
>>   "yeNNarum nalathinAL inaya niRuzhi       shd. be nindRuzhi
>>    kaNNodu kaNNinaik kavvi ondRiyondRu
>>    uNNavum nilaipeRAthu uNarvum ondRida
>>    aNNalum nOkinaan, avaLum nOkinaaL"
>>
>>   kamban.

>Rough Translation: As she who possessed great qualities stood there,
>                   their eyes met and devoured each other;
>                   their other unconstant senses became one 
>                   as he saw her and she saw him.

>nOkku here means more than just looked at, as they have
>become one with each other. Kambar explicitly suggests
>the relationship between Rama and Sita through Vaali
>(vaali vadhaip padalam):

>       aaviyai sanakan peRRa annaTHai amizdhin vandha
>       dEviyai pirindha pinnar thigaTHanai pOlum seigai

>Sita was the soul and Rama the body and this relation came 
>about when their eyes met.

>Kishore

>krshna@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

    Thanks Kishore avarkaLe:
 You are right ninRu uzhi-place where she stood. Your translation
has come out very neat. Please, if time permitting give a try
on the following verses of kamban.
 soorpanakai's gait:

 panjiyoLir vinchukuLir pallavam anungka 
 senjsevia kanjam nimir seeRadiyaLaaki
 am sol iLa manynyai yenna annam ena minnum
 vanjiyenna nanja mena vanja makaL vanthaaL.

 I am not sure about the words. But the sounds are
great. This is by far my favourite lines in kamban's
work.



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From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: SCT is 40th in the list of per-reader cost
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:25:54 GMT


I forgot to tell the source of that posting.
Posted by reid@decwrl.DEC.COM (Brian Reid) in 
news.misc,news.admin,misc.misc,news.groups.

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From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: Re: kadi
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:21:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.203326.4224@news.acns.nwu.edu> ram@casbah.acns.nwu.edu  
(Ram Devanathan) writes:
> 
> What is common to Janmaashtami and communism?
> 
> kaal marks

  Good one. Northwestern Univ. seems to be providing good atmosphere
for kadikal.
Cheers,
Venkat

PS: This posting serves two purposes. (i) Encourages "kadi"
   (ii) The original posting was confined to USA.Gives a chance for 
    people outside USA to enjoy the "kadi"
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From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: S.Ve. Sekher
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 04:12:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.145726.16447@ryn.mro4.dec.com> jayakumar@asd.enet.dec.com (M.K. Jayakumar) writes:
>
>>I am trying ot get a copy of the SVSekar drama
>>          'AAYIRAM VUTHAI VAANGIYA APOORVA SIKAMANI'.
>>  IF ANY OF YOU HAVE IT, PLEASE CORRESPOND.THANKS
>
>	Here in Mass, there is an Indian store which has a video cassette of
>this drama, and I have an audio recording of it.
>
>I have seen all his dramas, ** this one is undoubtedly the best of all his 
>dramas **. Don't miss it. I will try to post a few good jokes from that. 
>The  latest one "Adhishta'kaaran" doesn't seem that good atleast on the
>audio cassette.
>
>-Jayakumar
>
>From 'Ayiram uthai vaangiya apoorva Sikamani'
>      --------------------------------------
>S.Ve. Sekher is irresponsible, and is not interested in doing any job, and his
>father is terribly upset with him -
>
>Father: Oruthan poruppu illamae ethanae naal thaan'da vaazha'mudiyum !!
>SVS: Theriya'laeya.  Unakku enna vayasu aarathu ?


S.V.Sekhar and his friends watch college girls come out of a college.
So, S.V.Shekar decides to talk to a girl.

S.V.Shekar to girl no.1 : Paappaa, unga watchulae time enna ?

Girl 1 : (She stares at SVS and walks without replying)

(Then SVS to the next girl )

SVS : Paavam avanga oomai pola ullathu. Nee sollu paappaa

Anbudan,

V R Kumar

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From: Venkatachalam Aruna  (Affable)
Subject: Woman's face and the moon.
Reply-To: aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:00:27 GMT

Excerpted from the book "Museums of India - India's greatest treasures",
written by Shobita Punja, without permission.Publisher:Passport
books.

  For instance, a beautiful woman's face is likened to the full moon.
Here are two examples of Indian verse ("Poems from the Sanskrit", 
translated with an introduction by John Brough,Penguin,1968),one
romantic in mood, the other alomost angry, but both verses contain
a poetice humor that is very Indian.

          The moon tries every month in vain
          To paint a picture of your face;
          And, having failed to catch its grace,
          Destroys the work, and start again.
            
          Her face is not the moon, nor are her eyes
          Twin lotuses,nor are her arms pure gold.
          She's flesh and bone.What lies the poets told!
          Ah, but we love her,we believe them.

Cheers,
Venkat       
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