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From: terry@thisbe.Eng.Sandy.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert)
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Series One.
Organization: Novell NPD -- Sandy, UT
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:15:54 GMT

In article <y8umRB1w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US> pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
>kej@unix.brighton.ac.uk (-* Terminal Rat *-) writes:
>
>>   laws on Video materials recorded from the TV ? This material is now
>>   7+ years old isn't it ? Someone told me that that means I can copy it freel
>>   as many times as I like because the copyright only extends for 5 years for
>>   non-commercial applications.
>
>Total nonsense.  All individual copyrights issued after January 1, 1978
>last until fifty years after the death of the author.  TV programs and
>other works made for hire are protected by copyright until 100 years
>after their creation or 75 years after their first publication,
>whichever is shorter.
>
>Non-commercial applications?  Ridiculous.  Protection by copyright has
>nothing to do with whether the work is published or sold in any way.
>
>I respectfully suggest that you not ask that person for any more legal
>opinions.  (Your best bet is to go to a library and ask for a book on
>copyright law.)

Bearing in mind that the original poster posted from the UK, and laws are
"different" over there, Pat is correct with regard to US law.

There are exceptions to copyright/patent enforcement for educational,
personal, and government purposes.  These generally fall under either
"fair use" or "first use" law (don't confuse them!).

For more information that you can possibly handle, including a copy of the
US Constitution (Article I Section 8 grants the govenment the right to
"patent" and "copyright" regualtion and enforcement), you should check
out the "League for Programming Freedom"'s ftp archive at prep.ai.mit.edu.


					Terry Lambert
					terry@icarus.weber.edu
					terry_lambert@novell.com
					terry_lambert@ns.novell.com

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From: rmarsh@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Series One.
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:23:21 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Oct1.065125.1224@netcom.com>, bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan) writes:
> 
> Gee.. three posters that are all way off base.
> The issue of copyright has nothing to do with the actual process of copying
> a tape.  If I buy a tape, I can make a zillion copies of it and the law
> won't care.  What matters is that I can only use 1 copy of it at a time.
> I can watch it, rent it, loan it out or even give it away; but there can
> only be one copy in use at a time.  If I sold a copy of a tape to somebody,
> it would be perfectly legal.  But if I kept the original and used it myself,
> I would then be guilty of breaking the copyright law.
> 

Wouldn't that mean that you can sell as many copies as you like, and
continue using your original (or a copy) as long as no two copies were
watched at the same time? I guess that would mean that strictly speaking
you should call all other copy holders to warn them not to watch their copy
whenever you watch yours...

1/2 :)

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From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Series One.
Organization: Netcom
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:51:25 GMT

>>> Ie: copies made from rental tapes from video stores are legal, and so is a
>>> copy of an original disk of a PC game, but copying either and selling the
>>> copy is not.
>>
>>  Gee, could you explain about those notices that appear in the tapes then?
>
>Scare tactic to cut down on copying by people who aren't knowledgable
>enough to realize that they are simply scare tactics.
 :
>This is untrue.  You are not allowed archival priveledges unless they are
>explicitly granted to you by license or implicit in sale.  This is something
>which is usually granted by software producers.  I defy you to find an
>"you may may one copy for archival purposes" notice on a CD or Album.


Gee.. three posters that are all way off base.
The issue of copyright has nothing to do with the actual process of copying
a tape.  If I buy a tape, I can make a zillion copies of it and the law
won't care.  What matters is that I can only use 1 copy of it at a time.
I can watch it, rent it, loan it out or even give it away; but there can
only be one copy in use at a time.  If I sold a copy of a tape to somebody,
it would be perfectly legal.  But if I kept the original and used it myself,
I would then be guilty of breaking the copyright law.




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan
From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Series One.
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 23:48:51 EDT
Organization: Berry Communications

terry@thisbe.Eng.Sandy.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) writes:

> Bearing in mind that the original poster posted from the UK, and laws are
> "different" over there, Pat is correct with regard to US law.

A valid qualification, and one that I wasn't fully aware of at the time.
I had a vague idea that the U.S. copyright law was more or less
identical to the provisions of some international agreement on the
subject of copyrights, but that turns out not to be the case.

I went back to my source, a book called _The Business of Being a
Writer_, by Stephen Goldin and Kathleen Sky, and learned that it was the
Berne Convention that I was thinking of.  Much to my surprise, the U.S.
is *not* a signatory to it.  Or, rather, it was not at the time the book
was written, which was at least ten years ago (it's copyrighted 1982).

Goldin and Sky report that the U.S. is a signatory to the Universal
Copyright Convention, which "requires that works published in a
signatory country (or by a citizen of a signatory country) be protected
by another signatory country to the extent that country would protect
works by its own citizens."  So U.S. copyright law, as I summarized it,
would seem to prohibit the copying of "Red Dwarf" episodes within the
U.S., even though "Red Dwarf" is copyrighted in the U.K.

-- 
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pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                    |  "He Probably Won't Use
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From: dprebyl@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: song
Date: 6 Oct 92 01:35:49 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

I was wondering could somebody post the ending lyrics of the RD theme song...

I want to learn it and I can't understand the words.

David

"That's why I had my appendix out--twice!"
From: sjan1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Simon Lee           Jansen         )
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: missing character
Keywords: episode six
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:44:57 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

Did the character played by the actor who played Kryten called 'Jim Reaper'(?)
appear in episode six of the third series ('The Last Day')?

This character was listed in the credits, but was not in the episode as played
here...  TVNZ said they played it uncut.

Thanks..

--Simon Jansen, sjan1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz

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From: sphillip01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Holly's IQ
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:32:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.122409.27891@spider.co.uk>, andrewc@spider.co.uk (Andrew Cannon) writes:
> In article <1992Sep14.132652.10770@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> ft@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Frances Teagle) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep9.082130.29453@spider.co.uk> andrewc@spider.co.uk (Andrew Cannon) writes:
>>>
>>>He did go Senial.
>>
>>Can it be that the word we are looking for is SENILE?
>>
>>
> 
> I'm sorry. I was'nt educated. I went to art college.
> 
Don't you mean "wasn't" ?? :)


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From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: My Favorite Passage from _Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers_
Date: 5 Oct 1992 21:40:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, quendor@milton.u.washington.edu (Don Sowell) says:


>
>>this is cool.  if we get everyone to type in one page from the book, w
>>, uh, we can all have an illegal electronic copy.
>
>
>   Ok! Here's my addition to the illegal copy....
>
>             Red Dwarf - Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers
>
>                                 Grant Naylor
>

And since the string is unfortunately not catching on, here's my
addition.


                         CONTENTS
                         Part One
        Your own death, and how to cope with it 
                             I

                         Part Two
             Alone in a Godless universe, and out
                      of Shake 'n' Vac
                            95

                        Part Three
                          Earth
                           259




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From: v079ptvu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Tongue tied
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:09:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I saw a request a few weeks back for a repost of the words to tongue-tied...if
they were reposted I must have missed it...could someone repost them again?
Thanks in advance.
From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Series One.
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:56:16 GMT
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <5Fk6RB1w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US> pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
>terry@thisbe.Eng.Sandy.Novell.COM (Terry Lambert) writes:
>> Bearing in mind that the original poster posted from the UK, and laws are
>> "different" over there, Pat is correct with regard to US law.
>A valid qualification, and one that I wasn't fully aware of at the time.
>I had a vague idea that the U.S. copyright law was more or less
>identical to the provisions of some international agreement on the
>subject of copyrights, but that turns out not to be the case.

It is now.

The United States signed the Berne Convention for the Protection of
Literary and Artistic Works, on 1 March 1989.

They also altered the U.S. Copyright Laws to fit within the the obligations
of that treaty.  U.S. Law still governs over works inside the United States.


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From: twod@socrates.demon.co.uk (Ian Parkin)
Subject: Series IV on BBC
Distribution: world
Organization: Horrendous Happenings Ltd.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:56:49 +0000

--
Ian Parkin, twod@socrates.demon.co.uk

After mistakenly claiming that series IV & V were available on BBC video in 
the UK I asked around a bit and found that series IV is imminent.

I phoned up the Beeb, and was told the release date of 5th October.

The catalogue numbers : BBCV4847 ( DNA, Camille, & Justice )
			BBCV4848 ( The others )

For your information ( no 6 ) :
Beeb phone number is 		UK +44 81 743 5588
Beeb mail order address is 	BBC Videos
   				PO Box 100
   				Nailsea
   				Bristol
   				BS19 IAN

Anyone know of the name of a song that contains samples from DNA, I heard it 
on late night radio ( John Peel ) about 2 month ago ?

Cheers

IAP
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From: lskinner@emr1.emr.ca (Lauren Skinner)
Subject: RED DWARF on YTV
Summary: Is it coming back?
Keywords: RED DWARF is gone!
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Distribution: Canada
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:32:34 GMT

My Saturday afternoons, after shopping and running errands, are now
completely bereft since YTV no longer telecasts RED DWARF, or BLAKE'S 7.

Does anyone know if they will be bringing it back any time soon?  
With series 5, preferably.

It's good that they've brought us THUNDERBIRDS and STINGRAY this fall,
but *NOT* at the expense of RED DWARF and BLAKE'S 7.

If anyone has any information, please post.
Thanks... Lauren
From: andrewc@spider.co.uk (Andrew Cannon)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Astro Navigation Exam.
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:34:26 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

1) What does the red spectrum tell us about Quasars ?

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From: mowen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Guinny)
Subject: Re: Series IV on BBC
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 11:09:54 GMT

In article <717699409snx@socrates.demon.co.uk> twod@socrates.demon.co.uk (Ian Parkin) writes:
>Anyone know of the name of a song that contains samples from DNA, I heard it 
>on late night radio ( John Peel ) about 2 month ago ?

	There was a track on Carter USM's album '30something' which
had a quote from RD.  (It's ages since I managed to see DNA, so I
don't remember it it's the one you mean).  In it Rimmer says:

	"When you're young, you can eat what you like, drink what you
	like, and still climb into your twenty six inch waist trousers.
	Then you get to that age, twenty six, twenty seven..  your muscles
	give up, wave a little white flag and with no warning whatsoever
	you're suddenly a fat bastard."

	(This may not be exactly right - I haven't seen that episode
		or listened to the track for ages)

	The track is then an instrumental, interspersed with the chant
'You Fat Bastard', which seems to be one of Carters' trademarks.
Definitely well worth a listen.

>Cheers
>
>IAP

	No problems,

			Guinny

PS  Watch out for the script to Stasis Leak, coming to a newsgroup
	near you in the next couple of days....
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May your path lead to wisdom, and in wisdom, know ye peace
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Subject: Lines used in another show  
From: Stuart_Foster@kcbbs.gen.nz (Stuart Foster)
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:52:49 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Was watching the last episode of series three ('the last day') here in  
the last backwater of civilization. (RD gets put on at 11pm and rugby gets  
prime time :-(  
  
Anyway, theres a bit in there about Rimmer doing telephone counselling  
"Lemming Sunday they called it" with some lines prior to that.  
  
Coincidentally Chris Barry is also in another show from England on our screens
in NZ called "The Brittas Empire" where he plays a similar smeghead.  
 A few episodes ago exactly the same telephone counselling skit cropped up  
with Chris Barry in the same role (driving people to suicide).  
  
Which was written first ?? (and who's plagiarizing who).  
(I'd guess it's the first series of TBE)  
  
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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf Series One.
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 00:03:27 EDT
Organization: Berry Communications

bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan) writes:

> The issue of copyright has nothing to do with the actual process of copying
> a tape.  If I buy a tape, I can make a zillion copies of it and the law
> won't care.  What matters is that I can only use 1 copy of it at a time.
> I can watch it, rent it, loan it out or even give it away; but there can
> only be one copy in use at a time.  If I sold a copy of a tape to somebody,
> it would be perfectly legal.  But if I kept the original and used it myself,
> I would then be guilty of breaking the copyright law.

Please cite a source for this information.  It isn't consistent with
what I know of U.S. copyright law.

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From: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
Subject: Long quote
Reply-To: kv07@IASTATE.EDU (Warren Vonroeschlaub)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:44:07 GMT

  Last time I checked, the quote file still said "The whole conversation between
Lister and Holly about the supra-light speed fightes from the NorWEB
federation".  Since this is more annoying that not even having it mentioned, I
thought the following would be worth it:

Holly:  Busy Dave?
Lister: Well, yeah.  I am actually.
Holly:  Oh, then you won't want to know about the two supra-light
        speed fighters that are tracking us.
Lister: What!?
Holly:  I'll leave you to your bubble blowing mate.
Lister: No, Hol, come, come on.
Holly:  They're from Earth.
Lister: Three million years away?
Holly:  They're from the NorWEB federation.
Lister: What's that?
Holly:  The North West Electricity Board.  They want you Dave.
Lister: Me?  Why?  What for?
Holly:  For your crimes against humanity.
Lister: Me what!?
Holly:  It seems when you left Earth three million years ago, you
        left two half-eaten German sausages on a plate in your
        kitchen.
Lister: I did?
Holly:  You know what happens to sausages left unattended for
        three million years?
Lister: Yeah.  They go moldy.
Holly:  Your sausages, Dave, now cover seven-eighths of the Earth's
        surface.  Also you left seventeen pounds, fifty pence in a
        bank account.  Thanks to compound interest you now own
        ninety-eight percent of all the world's wealth.  But since
        you've hoarded it for three million years nobodies got any
        money except you and NorWEB.
Lister: Why NorWEB?
Holly:  You left a light on in the bathroom.  So the final demand
        is for one hundred and eighty billion pounds.
Lister: A hundred and eighty billion pounds?  You're kidding!
Holly:  April fools.
Lister: But it's not April.
Holly:  Yeah, I know.  But I can't wait six months with a red-hot
        jape like that one on the burner.

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From: zio@spectrx.saigon.com (Zio zZz)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: GIF's anyone ?
Keywords: red dwarf british sci-fi
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:43:22 GMT
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca

sphillip01@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:

> How about a few nice hi-res GIFs for the Red-Dwarf FTP site !!! I mean, a 3k 
> of the logo in brilliant red and black is all very nice, but I'm sure I'm not
> the only one who would love some hi-res, hi-colour GIF's, of logo's & episode
> scenes ... Talkie Toaster as a background bitmap ?
> Just an idea ....
> 
> Trevor Phillips
> 

What is the ftp-site anyway?  Sorry if it is a FAQ, but I am gathering FTP 
info.  What is its numeric and word location, and are there any special things 
to know about connecting to this one as compared to other sites?
 

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