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From: Thomas Levitan <tlevitan@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: 06 Jan 93 21:42 PST
Subject: Re: rebating commission
Nf-ID: #R:1993Jan6.015552.14069@noose.ecn.:156443607:cdp:1460300136:000:326
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!tlevitan    Jan  6 21:42:00 1993


I've used travelers advantage for the last few years.  They do charge
a fee for membership, I think $35, but the first three months are a buck
if you sign up through one of the online services.  The rebate is only
5%, and you don't get rebated on the tax portion of the tickets.
If you fly enough, it might be worth it.  
Tom
From: nickm@eecs.berkeley.edu (Nick McKeown)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Hawaii/Kuaui Questions
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:58:42 GMT
Reply-To: nickm@eecs.berkeley.edu (Nick McKeown)
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: clair.berkeley.edu

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We're planning to go to Hawaii around Jan 20th and we are looking
for:

1) Cheap ticket suggestions
2) Current information about Kuaui - is t a good idea to visit
   right now for hiking?
3) Any recommendations for hiking, places to stay on Molokai?
4) Any recommendations for hiking, places to stay on the Big Island?


Thanks for your suggestions/ideas. Mail me direct please.

Nick
From: splee@pd.org (Seng-Poh Lee, Speedy)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Does US make new citizens give up their old passport?
Date: 8 Jan 93 05:00:18 GMT
Organization: Public Domain Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

When one becomes a naturalized US citizen, does the INS make you give
up your old passport?

Can anyone who has gone through the process recently shed some light.
I know some countries allow you to maintain dual citizenship, but thats
kind of hard to do if they take your old passport away.

Thanks

--
Seng-Poh Lee    <splee@pd.org>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: RENTALS, PROVENCE, SOUTHERN FRANCE
From: dms10@po.CWRU.Edu (David M. Shlaes)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 01:21:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)

                RENTALS, PROVENCE, SOUTHERN FRANCE
 
     We own a small house built in the 1300s in a small medevil
Reply-To: dms10@po.CWRU.Edu (David M. Shlaes)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu

village in southern France, just 45 min drive NW of Avignon.  The
house has been completely redecorated, but retains its medevil
charm.  It has a modern kitchen and 1 1/2 baths (modern shower),
two bedrooms (sleeps four adults comfortably), washing machine, a
30 sq meter terrace.  It is one block from a crystal clear river
with beach.  It is available from May 1 through September 30,
1993.  Pictures, rates and further info are available on request.
     Our neighbor in France rents a small house (rustic) in the
same village.  It sleeps five adults. 
He also rents apartments and studios just outside the village.  The
apartments are modern and well equipped.  They come with a terrace
and a swimming pool and tennis court are available for apartment
renters.   
     Get back to me by E-mail if you're interested in any of these
rentals.  
 
-- 
Best,

Dave Shlaes
Xref: sparky rec.travel:17640 soc.culture.british:18540 talk.politics.mideast:25209 alt.activism:20430 alt.suicide.holiday:3324
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.british,talk.politics.mideast,alt.activism,alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: if it's Tuesday it must be Halabja
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:38:58 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

A couple of days ago I replied to a posting in soc.culture.british in which
someone was pouring scorn on the idea of the ex-Yugoslavia as a holiday
destination, as advocated in "The European" (I pointed out that Istria and
the northern Adriatic islands were perfectly safe and that the only problem
might be accommodation: I should have added the Slovenian mountains as a
destination with even less problems).  The poster ended with some comment
like "where next, Iraq or Cambodia?".

So, from the current issue of the New Statesman:

	IRAQI KURDISTAN.  First ever package holiday.  Two weeks in
	May 1993, 700-800 pounds.  CARDRI tours.  Tel: 071 278 3624.

CARDRI is the Campaign Against Repression and for Democratic Rights in
Iraq.  I've had some dealings with them in the past.  Considering the kind
of stuff they were dealing with (like the UK crawling with Baathist agents
with the approval of the British state) they were surprisingly open and
non-paranoid: a welcome change from Kurdish nationalist organizations I've
talked to.  I presume they're a spinoff of the Iraqi Communist Party.  I'd
love to go on this trip if I could afford it (which I can't).

Sometime after the Gulf War I posted a document called "Ten Days That Shook
Iraq" to misc.activism.progressive (available from their archives) which
says, among other things, where the ICP fits into the Kurdish political
picture.  (Its authors are not ICP).  Might be useful to read that before
you go.

The links between travel agencies and Middle Eastern dissident
organizations form an interesting story, which someone who cares
less than I do about having their skull perforated by high-velocity
lead might someday like to write about...

[ Followups to rec.travel. ]

-- 
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17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8RZ, Scotland   TEL: 041 339 8855 x6854 (work)
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kucera@convex.com (Julie Kucera)
Subject: Camping in Big Bend Nat'l Park
Summary: seeking info
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:39:10 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


My husband and I are thinking of traveling to Big Bend National Park sometime
between Feb 15 and April 15, probably late March (for 2 weeks).  We have never
been there, and would like information on the following things:

    * best dates in that time frame (mid-Feb to mid-April)
	is this all too early to catch the cactus blooms?

    * average temperatures at that time 
	are the mountains too cold?  what about the river water?
	what kind of clothes will we need?

    * activities that take place during non-summer months
	can you raft the river?  are there planty of trail rides, etc?
	best hikes?  side trips (or things to catch on the drive there
	from Dallas, such as Monahans sand dunes)?  good fishing spots
	(we both love to fish)?

    * tent camping info
	best place?  how soon I need to make reservations (if at all)?
    
    * any other tips you wish to share

There is one special consideration I need to keep in mind when planning 
activities (and you may want to know when making suggestions), etc, and
that is that I am expecting our first child in July (yes, this is our last
"fling" as a couple :-), and may be limited in some activities (though I 
am in pretty good shape, and think I should be able to do moderate hiking
at (perhaps) slower speeds).

The mid-trimester is supposed to be the best time to travel if pregnant, 
and I will probably be around 4-5 months when we go.  Am I crazy for even
considering this trip?  It is not at all a high-risk pregnancy (yet, anyway), 
and I have really had no problems so far whatsoever...

Thanks for all your help!
** Julie :-)

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From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Renting a Car from Alama (was  How to make reservations for Alamo Rent a Car from outside the US?)
Date: 10 Jan 1993 02:36:37 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: salmon.zoo2.cs.yale.edu

I have rented from Alamo quite a few times before, I have never had
any problem. I have rented from Alamo at DFW (airport), Atlanta (airport)
and in San Jose airport. At DFW, the agent gave me an upgrade 
(he gave me a very big car), he did hint that I should write to the company
and said he gave me very good service. When I need to rent a car, I usually
phone up all the major car rental companies and take the least expensive
offer (and I always reserver the least expensive thing). It turned out a
few times that Alamo's offer was the cheapest but their cars seem to be
not so good as other companies. I mean they are not in so good conditions.
Apart from that I have no complaint. (Oh, and I never leave my credit
card number for reservations. May be they require that at specific
locations only.) Also, if you have the Entertainment '93 book, you can
use a voucher for getting a discount there. (Not sure about all the
restrictions). Being an member of Entertainment, you can get discount from
Alamo and I think also Avis, Hertz and National. 

Dicky.
P.S. Why not join AAA and get all the free maps, tour guidebooks and discount
from (some) car rental companies?

Newsgroups: rec.travel,la.general
From: tj@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Tom Johnson)
Subject: Catalina Hotel Recommendations Needed
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 22:16:18 GMT

I'll be visiting Catalina for a 3 day weekend at the end of this month.
I've been there a few times - but we always stayed on a boat in Cat Harbor
or camped out.  This time, however, we want to stay in a reasonably priced
hotel, preferably conveniently located in Avalon.

I'd like to keep costs down to $80/night or so. 

Can anyone offer any first-hand recommendations?

Recommedations for restraunts and particular activites are welcome too.

Thanks-

   Tom
-- 
Tom Johnson             "They say Confucious does his crossword with a pen."
tj@cs.ucla.edu                               -Tori Amos
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: briganti@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Joe Briganti)
Subject: Re: Cold Spell in Europe
Followup-To: rec.travel
Reply-To: j.briganti@trl.oz.au (Joe Briganti)
Organization: Telecommunications Research Laboratories, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:08:00 GMT

grob@chorus.fr (Lori S. Grob) wrote in <1642@chorus.chorus.fr>
>
>We are just coming to the end of (I hope) some
>of the coldest weather we have had here in a long
>time. This weekend was very cold in Paris and
>there has been snow in Italy in places that haven't
>seen snow in 20 years.

Lori,

I'd add that even further south-east I've heard some parts of Pelopenesion
(??) Greece have had snow. 

--
Joe Briganti ( j.briganti@trl.oz.au )
Contractual obligations prevent me from speaking on behalf of my employer.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:50:58 CST
From: <U14663@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Cancun

My 18 yo daughter is planning on going to Cancun on March 14-20 with her
girlfriend.  I (she) would appreciate any comments on what to see, what
not to see, what to be careful of, cheap air fares, cheap (but nice)
accomodations, helpful advice/insights, etc.  Thanks in advance.
Dick
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|University of Illinois                                           |
|  at Chicago                                                     |
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Xref: sparky rec.travel:17234 rec.travel.air:6346
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
From: kwee@oracle.uucp (Karl Wee)
Subject: Proliferation of unsafe aircraft parts?
Reply-To: kwee@oracle.uucp (Karl Wee)
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:38:59 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In the January issue of Northwest Airlines' inflight magazine there's an
article about the widespread use of inferior key parts on commercial airplanes.

Typically what happens is that airline employees steal used or to-be-repaired
parts and sell them to other airlines as "new parts" through brokers.  The
brokerage system is not regulated, and there's a lot of falsifying FAA
stickers, serial numbers, and falsely certifying of parts to make this happen.
There're operations that paint up old parts in order to sell them as
new ones.  Sometimes parts made by uncertified manufacturers are used to
counterfeit FAA-approved ones from certified makers.  The worst are operations
that look into scrap heaps of parts for "dress-up-and-resell".

This seems to be a very profitable business, since a small part that can be
easily stolen can be worth tens of thousands of dollars.  The problem of using
old parts as new ones, are, of course, that the parts won't be inspected or
replaced for some time, possibly beyond it's designed lifetime.

One guy from the FAA insists that there is no evidence that suggests any past
accidents are related to stolen or couterfeit parts.  But other people also
point out that this is often impossible to determine.  IMHO, are they going
to wait until people die from accidents provably caused by these parts or are
they going to enforce what they should have been enforcing all along to keep
the process within its design?

You might want to take a look at this article.  Does anybody have any more
info on this?
From: norma@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Norma Pincus)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:10:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Wild animal park Valejo (sp??) CA. Any comments
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.travel


>> ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins) /  1:58 pm  Jan  4, 1993 /
>> I will be out in the Bay area in February and I am interested in wildlife
>> photography. In addition to the usual sites (Pt. Lobos, Monteray, Ano Nuevo
>> etc.) I am wondering if a visit to the wild animal park (or whatever it is
>> really called) in Valejo (hope the spelling is close) is worth it? 

   Marine World Africa USA in Vallejo

>> I don't like (and don't visit) places where the animals "perform" for the 
>> public.  Could anyone who has visited this park give me some idea of what 
>> I might find there in the way of photographic oportunities. 

   It is mainly entertainment shows for the public - what I consider the
   main photographic reason for going is the butterflies - there's a 
   walk-through butterfly "greenhouse" where you can get great shots - you'll
   probably want at least 400 speed film - I've gotten my best shots with a 
   100 mm lens; but 50 will work too - longer lenses may be a problem unless
   your's allow close focusing distances - these butterflies get CLOSE !!

   There are a few other outside display (versus entertainment) areas with
   animals on display - the one that you can get the most "non-captivity" 
   looking shots are the tigers - but I wouldn't go just for that. You can
   get just as natural looking shots (with a longer lens) at the SF zoo -
   especially of the white tiger.

>> I understand it is quite expensive ($20+?) - is it worth the expense and 
>> effort to go there (I will be staying in San Jose)?

   You're looking at about 1.5 hour drive up there - last I heard adult price
   is $22.95. For me the butterflies alone make it worth it - if you're not
   enthralled at the idea of butterfly shots you probably want to forget it.
   If you are however into butterflies - you'll be here during the Monarch
   migration - you should check out the butterfly trees in either Pacific 
   Grove ( near Monterey) or in Natural Bridges State Park in Santa Cruz.

   Make sure you have fast film when you go to Monterey also - for the 
   jellyfish exhibit at the Aquarium!!  I've gotten decent shots of both
   sea lions and pelicans at Monterey Wharf - and bring long lenses for 
   sea otters at Pt. Lobos (and sea birds all along the coast - bring ritz
   crackers if you want gulls to hover over head for great close ups).


   good luck and enjoy your trip.
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:12:44 IST
From: Shlomo <X42529@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: chicago, illinois

In article <C0IB70.EH2@Novell.COM>, dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb
Tokarewich) says:
>[Many very good recommendations deleted]
>
>Of course, the obvious place every visitor tries to get to is the Sears
>Tower. Not only is the ride up (and down!) the elevator and the view (on a
>clear day or a full-moon night) a unique experience,

what about John Hancock observatory?

>but the short video
>presentation (named something like "Welcome to Chicago") on the main level
>of the Tower is a good intro to the city and its people and places. And a

There's a short film like that across the street from the water-tower ( on the
 right ) and that's also where those $7.00 bus tours (open-air) of chicago are.
From: shoaf@helix.nih.gov (Susan E. Shoaf)
Subject: A hotel in HILO, HAWAII, suggestions.
Organization: (National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD)
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:23:01 GMT

I am planning to fly into Hilo, Hawaii on my way to the Volcano
National Park and need to spend one night there.  Any suggestions on
nice quiet places?  We are looking to spend no more than 80$ for 
2 persons.	

Please e-mail to my signature address or post. Thanks.

Susan

--
shoaf@clinpharm.niaaa.nih.gov    

National Institute on Alcohol   |  
   Abuse and Alcoholism         |
From: dms10@po.CWRU.Edu (David M. Shlaes)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: RENTALS, PROVENCE, SOUTHERN FRANCE
Date: 5 Jan 1993 01:21:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
 
                RENTALS, PROVENCE, SOUTHERN FRANCE
 
     We own a small house built in the 1300s in a small medevil
Reply-To: dms10@po.CWRU.Edu (David M. Shlaes)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu

village in southern France, just 45 min drive NW of Avignon.  The
house has been completely redecorated, but retains its medevil
charm.  It has a modern kitchen and 1 1/2 baths (modern shower),
two bedrooms (sleeps four adults comfortably), washing machine, a
30 sq meter terrace.  It is one block from a crystal clear river
with beach.  It is available from May 1 through September 30,
1993.  Pictures, rates and further info are available on request.
     Our neighbor in France rents a small house (rustic) in the
same village.  It sleeps five adults. 
He also rents apartments and studios just outside the village.  The
apartments are modern and well equipped.  They come with a terrace
and a swimming pool and tennis court are available for apartment
renters.   
     Get back to me by E-mail if you're interested in any of these
rentals.  
 
-- 
Best,

Dave Shlaes
From: elef@smarmy.Eng.Sun.COM (elaine 'beano' leffler)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Yucatan Info Needed
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:10:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: elef@smarmy.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: smarmy.eng.sun.com

In article 29232@porthos.cc.bellcore.com, ajw@decoy.uucp (25482-siegel) writes:
>In article <1ibtkmINNaoe@nigel.msen.com> klm@msen.com (Kenneth Morse) writes:
>PLEASE, consider staying at KAILUUM, a "Camptel" (luxury camping) directly 
>between Cancun and Tulum.  We spent our honeymoon there 1.5 yrs ago - it 
>was WONDERFUL.  Don't know the number offhand... Kailuum is run by the 
>Turquois Reef Resorts, based in Colorado (they have an 800 number)

when i was in merida in november i stayed at a turquoise reef bed and breakfast
(wonderful people, i wish i'd booked my entire trip with them) and there was some
talk about the kailuum (is that really how it's spelled?) being shut down sometime
soon because most tourists prefer to go to hotels, or do the bare-bones camping
thing.  this may or may not be true, it was just something i overheard the owner
of the b&b discussing with some other guests.

enjoy...

elef


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: gilbert@esd.dl.nec.com (Russell Gilbert)
Subject: Re: Working and travelling (where?)
Organization: NEC America, Engineering & Support
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:44:37 GMT

Joost Schuur (zxmsu01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de) wrote:

>    I'm interested in spending six to twelve moths outside of Europe and 
> am now looking for countries that offer working permits/visas and 
> have employment possibilities for a young, prosprous, who wouldn't say
> no to physical labor. Somthing along the line of fruit picking in Austra-
> lia or cooking for lumberjacks in Canada or waiter in Auckland. Any-
> thing you can recommend?

There's a book called "Work Your Way Around the World" (or something very
close to that) that gives lots of help on exactly the kind of jobs you
mentioned.

Good luck,

Russell     (gilbert@esd.dl.nec.com)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow)
Subject: Re: How To Say "Thank You"
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Distribution: rec.travel
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:13:08 GMT
Followup-To: Re: How To Say "Thank YOu"
Summary: grazie mille
Keywords: thanks, italian

To Davide--Thanks a lot. I knew Molto didn't look right, but I was up
all last night working on my dissertation and I couldn't figure out why.

Deborah
From: ltracewe@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lori A Tracewell)
Subject: weather in Cancun?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:00:20 GMT


   I will be in Cancun over Super Bowl weekend (Jan 28-Feb 2). Could anyone 
tell me what to expect the weather to be like.
   Thanks in advance...
   Lori
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: schmeltzer@lifia.imag.fr (Olivier Schmeltzer)
Subject: Top of Kilimanjaro (Tanzania)
Reply-To: schmeltzer@lifia.imag.fr
Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:58:07 GMT

I intend to go to Tanzania in order to climb the Kilimanjaro
moutain and I'd like to have some pieces of information about
it:
* Are there any administrative formalities to do for Tanzania?
* I've been told that the climbing is not difficult and that
the only problem is to deal with altitude and lack of oxygen;
is that true? Is it possible to go up to the top without any
particular equipment?
* I've been also told that there are many people doing the same
thing and that you are under the impression to be in a highway
road; if this is true, what is then the best time of the year
to go there?
* Considering the weather, what is the best time of the year?
Is there any months when the sight-seeing is the most beautiful
and no clouds are interfering with it? Or is it enough to get
up early the last walk to be at the top before the clouds
have come?
* It is possible that I come from Burundi where some relations
of mine are living: what kind of means of transport should I use
to go from, say Bujumbura, to Arusha? Are there coaches, trains?

Thanks a lot!

P.S.: Sorry for my english; I hope you had some fun with it!

-- 
 Olivier SCHMELTZER  <schmeltzer@lifia.imag.fr>

Newsgroups: rec.travel