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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:27:14 -0500
From:         Jim Loomis <LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: New Amiga 1000

Whoops!  Alejandro, '95 is a loooong way off.  When you take the RSN (Real Soon
Now) factor into account, this sounds more and more like a "dream" machine.

Guess I'll make that call to my DOS notebook supplier.  The batteries will have
crapped out by '95 anyway.  Too bad CBM doesn't have anything coming soon.

-Jim L        LOOMIS@ITHACA.BITNET
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:43:00 EDT
From:         BARNETTJ@SNYSYRV1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Software IBM emulators/Windows

So is PC Task shareware, on the net, PDomain, commercial?  Where can I get
my hands on it to try it out?
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From: tsuikki@cc.lut.fi (Teemu Suikki)
Subject: Re: 1960 specs????
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:53:29 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

In article <I-AMIGA%93012020055846@RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU> MIKE <HENMD@RHODES.BITNET> writes:
>   relatively new version. I have an A3000, so I have ECS everything.

You have to disable the flicker fixer in order to make these ....72-modes work.
 
>   What's the difference between euro72 and super72?? And what's

Different resolutions.
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From: CSHD92IB@VAXA.ANGLIA-POLYTECHNIC.AC.UK (BINKY)
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Subject: riscy business
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:30:00 GMT
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Via:      UK.AC.ANGLIA.VA; 26 JAN 93 11:28:44 GMT

Will we be seeing a RISC processor in the amiga at any time? I found the
stuff posted about 601's etc interesting, but where does that leave us?

Does anyone know of the C= PC emulator for the 1200 which uses the PCMCIA slot?
like a release date and some details. I assume it would be an SX.

Sorry to hear about Fred Fish, The Amiga would not be the same without him,
I thought the two were symbiotic.

Finally, anyone know of a decent C++ compiler for the amiga, and how compliant
is it to current PC C++ compilers?

Ian
From: JWONG@UCRVM2.BITNET (Yang)
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Subject: Re: Changing WB-Screen
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:31:29 GMT
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              21 Jan 1993 07:49:14 CST from <rwj@ENGR.LATECH.EDU>

Hi, Mr. Jamison:

     Thanks for your mail.  But what you mean with ' ARCHIE SHOULD BE
ABLE TO TELL YOU...'  Could you please explain me how can I use the
ARCHIE?  (I am new in this kind of systems).


Yang (JWONG@UCRVM2)
San Jose, Costa Rica.
From: JWONG@UCRVM2.BITNET (Yang)
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Subject: Amiga <---> Fax
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:41:37 GMT
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Hi there:

        Could someone tell me if there's any possibility to connect
the Amiga with the Fax Machines?  I mean, to send Fax by the Amiga?

        If it is possible, please tell me which programs I need for
it.

Thanks.

Yang  (JWONG@UCRVM2)
San Jose, Costa Rica
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From:         CBDZ110L@GRTHEUN1.BITNET
Subject:      EARN conection VIA Amiga ?

Hello Amigos !!!!!!!!

 I write to our list for a question I have :

  I am working in an IBM 4381/M13 at Aristotle University of Thessaloniki.
  I wonder if I can conect with a machine like that, from my home, by
  using my Amiga-500 (1MB - Kickstart 1.3). If yes, what kind of modem
  and software would I need ?
  I am waiting for a reply in English or Greek.           THANKS !!!


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From: NDB120@NOV.HB.SE (Magnus Wissler... Amiga rules...)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga
Subject: Re: Gadgets & images
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:06:50 GMT
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> From:          David McGhee <DMCGHEE1%UA1VM.BITNET@SEARN.SUNET.SE>

> Just a thought, If you aren't dynamically allocating the memory, your struct
> may be getting filled with garbage when you return to the calling function.
> The way to avoid this would be to declare the structure as static.
>
> just the pointer to it is in chip memory.

Yeah, right, I forgot that in my reply. It could be done with something like

  ptr = AllocMem( sizeof(struct Image)), MEMF_CHIP|MEMF_CLEAR);

Hope you get it working.

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From: 2rs9acevedom@vms.csd.mu.edu (Mario Acevedo)
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Subject: RE: VXL-30 accelerator
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:02:56 GMT
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In article <01GTS6NPSEQO000P5O@MARCUS.WHITMAN.EDU>, SARGEANT@WHITMAN.BITNET writes:
>Date: THU, JAN 21, 1993,  1:25 PM
>To  : VAX MAIL (I-AMIGA@RUTVM1.BITNET) / INTERNET
>From: JEFF-SARGEANT
>
>Subject:  RE:  VXL-30 accelerator
>
>>I'm planning to buy the VXL-30 accelerator, but before I do, I was wonderi
>>if there was something else I had to buy to get it to work on my system.
>>I have an Amiga 2000HD (A2091 Hard drive controller),2.04 rom (Workbench 2
>>Someone told me once a long time ago something about upgrading the A2091
>>controller's roms if I get my system accelerated under 2.0. Is that true?
>>I want to speed up my system, but don't want any unexpected costs.
>>Oh, yeah, and I'm getting the 40MHz VXL30. Any and all help appreciated.
>>Direct E-Mail is preferred, but beggers can't be choosers, so just post it
>>to I-Amiga if it's easier for yo7>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>        Eric Clemons.
>>
>
     The only problems with the old roms is that the controller screw up when
you change a disk in an external scsi device (i.e. syquest).  If you have one
of these drives or an external unit you may want to upgrade the roms unless you
don't have any problems.  The 2091 should work fine with the 2.04 roms.
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:29:41 EST
From:         Arc Wave <arc@JUDY.INDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Amiga - Future

All,
        Amiga 4000s will be able to put the 68060 in it, via the cpu module.
        Now a RISC cpu module is feasible, but would require code
        re-compilation, unless they make a 680x0 type emulation.


Awaiting: DSP (16bit audio - DSP has other uses), DIG, AAA chipset,
          Networking - part of OS, and maybe CD-ROM ready systems.

        Commodore should make CD-ROM ready systems available, since they
        state they are a multimedia platform (CDTV? well...).  I mean
        like a A4000 with DSP,6MB RAM,120MB HD,CD-ROM,and GenLock.

Paul
...I want AGA animations! ppplease!

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From:         AVERHE@BANRUC60.BITNET
Subject:      Re: WB 3.0 with 2.04 rom

>
> jorrit@UZ.KULEUVEN.AC.BE writes:
> >Granted, for most of these enhancements you also need the 3.0 ROM but this
> >is not the case for some of them (like MultiView, datatypes, monitor files,
> >...)
>
> Multiview and datatypes use some new features in v39 BOOPSI, so they
> do require a 3.0 ROM.  Booting 3.0 with a 2.04 ROM gives you nothing
> new--just a stripped down (because v39 preferences don't work with a
> v37 ROM), somewhat unstable (because of the version mismatches) 2.1.
> All the new stuff in 3.0 is either in ROM, or depends on new stuff in
> ROM.
>

I've got somewhere the 3.0 on a disk, which you put in the memory with
'rekick', something simular to zkick. The only difference is that it isn't
reset-proof, when you reset you get back the 1.2/1.3/2.0, or whatever your
roms are, and you have to reload the 3.0.
I've tested it some time ago, and it worked fine.

I now have exams, but when someone wants to have it, I'll mail it in 2 weeks
or so, just let me know.

     Regards,

          Aeneas.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:24:00 GMT
From:         BLAZ.ZUPAN@UNI-MB.SI
Subject:      RE: Amiga dir on hubcap.clemson.edu is gone!

Well, I have written to the site administrator and here is
his answer:

>My logs indicate so many accesses of the hidden directory by so many places,
>that I have stopped trying to contact them all.
>I still have the stuff archived, but since there is no one to moderate
>the archive, I don't see much changed of opening it again here...
>Thanks for your message, and sorry about the loss...
>-Mike

Seems like the amiga directory on hubcap.clemson.edu is gone forever...
I have wrriten to Mike and asked him if it is possible to copy the
stuff to some other site, so we at least keep the old things. I'm
waiting for his answer...

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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:17:34 CST
From:         John Fusco <JFUSCO@IATS.AVLABS.MDC.COM>
Subject:      Deluxe Music Construction Set

A few months ago lots of people on usenet were talking about a new
version of DMCS that was supposed to come out for the Amiga. Whatever
happened?  Was it just a rumor?

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From: thein@minipicc.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Theiner)
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Subject: Blitzbasic ... Did anyone use it ?
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:55:38 GMT
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Keywords: BlitzBasic

Has anyone used BlitzBasic yet. If so, please e-mail me. I want to have further
information about Assembler and Libraries in BlitzBasic.

If this is not the right newsgroup for my problem, please tell me. I'm new in this
stuff and I'll learn where to post my problems.

Thanx
Thomas
thein@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:31:36 CDT
From:         Dan Szkola <A02DJS1@NOC.NIU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: DSP??

Apparently, C= has decided to use a DSP produced by AT&T.  Don't
scoff because this DSP makes the one the FALCON uses look like a
toy. The AT&T DSP supposedly contains video compression and voice
synthesis hardware as well. I will get more info on this, as I have
some at home. I will try to send it up tomorrow.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:32:59 EST
From:         Steve Brown <UE50@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      New Amiga user needs purchasing help

I'm new to the Amiga world and have been put in charge of purchasing
an Amiga and NewTek Video Toaster.  Can somebody give me some advice
on what model Amiga(2000, 2500, 3000, 4000) I should get. Also I need to
know about hard drives and add-on boards (tbc cards, accelerators, etc)

Thanks! Steve B.
From: halightw@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (Hal Lightwood)
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Subject: Re: WB 3.0 with 2.04 rom
Date: 23 Jan 1993 06:09:58 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University; Thunder Bay, Ont

bbowles@IUS.INDIANA.EDU (BBOWLES) writes:


>          It wont work! :-( I tried it and it gave me an error saying
>          "Requires 3.0 Kickstart".  Would have been nice though.
 
  THat is because youneed the 3.0 kickfile.  Use rekick from 1.3 or skick from 
2.04 to boot under kick39.110.  But that would be illegal to have
unless you are a developer anyway.  3.0 is not all that great anyway.  Just
use 2.1, it has all the same features.  Unless you have an AGA machine there
really isn't that much more to see. (cept that wunderful colour wheel pallete!)

- H A L

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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:11:48 CET
From:         Magnus Wissler - Amiga rules <NDB120@NOV.HB.SE>
Subject:      Re: PD comm prg that uses kermit???

Captain,

Try NComm 1.92 or 2.xx. If you don't ifnd it easy to use try Term. NComm 1.92
and Term are (I hope :-) freely distributable, and NComm 2.xx is ShareWare.
They should be available at most self-respecting FTP sites.

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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:43:43 -0700
From:         "Tech/Lab Manager In Training: Deva WinbloodDayva Wineblood"
              <ADP_DEVA@WSC.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Info on PowerPCs, Motorola processors,
              and future speculations.

NYLE and Others:
        I myself am an Amiga owner, and believe it to be the best machine
in the PC market, but it should not mean that I will blindly ignore what
is going on in the computing market.  Always should keep an eye on what
others are doing.   So, whether you thought I was "Mac toting" or not,
it is no more than the same thing we hear when we get an edition of
"Murph's VaporWare."  So chill out, no flamage, and send only information
or questions... you will hear nothing more from me on the matter.
        But, if you have constructive information to add I will always be
anxious to hear it.

                Deva Winblood        ADP_DEVA@WSC.COLORADO.EDU

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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:53:48 -0200
From:         Gelson Dias Santos <GELSON@BRUFRGS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A1200 Anim Speed Question

> Hi everyone!
> A friend  of mine wants to buy an A1200, but he needs to know:
> - how fast can an A1200 play HAM8 and 800x600x256 anims?
> - what kind of HDs are available? (I know this was discussed
> recently, but I lost a week's worth of messages)
> - how can one speed up an A1200 (coproc, 32-bit RAM, ...)

  Hi Fernando,

  I don't know about HAM8 animation speeds, but we can use my A1200 (yes, I
have one!!!) to test anything you friend wants. As for the HDs, all A1200 uses
IDE drives. I have a 40M version.
  Speeding up the A1200 is a matter of instaling an accelerator. So far the
only option is the MBX1200 expansion ram board, that adds a 68881 co-processor.
I believe that third-parties will soon add more options to the list.
  Contact me if you want to see my system.

  Gelson

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From: dsr@lns598.tn.cornell.edu (Daniel S. Riley)
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Subject: Re: WB 3.0 with 2.04 rom
Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:12:30 -0500
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AVERHE@BANRUC60.BITNET writes:
> I've got somewhere the 3.0 on a disk, which you put in the memory with
> 'rekick', something simular to zkick. The only difference is that it isn't
> reset-proof, when you reset you get back the 1.2/1.3/2.0, or whatever your
> roms are, and you have to reload the 3.0.
> I've tested it some time ago, and it worked fine.
> 
> I now have exams, but when someone wants to have it, I'll mail it in 2 weeks
> or so, just let me know.

*sigh*

3.0 is a copyrighted work, and redistributing it in this fashion would be
a violation of Commodore's copyright.  rekick'able versions of the 3.0
kickstart are unpublished, proprietary, copyrighted property of Commodore,
so redistribution is certainly a copyright violation, a violation of
someone's non-disclosure agreement, and possibly a violation of other
laws as well.  It's also almost certainly a developer beta version,
which may have nasty bugs.  So don't redistribute it.

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From: djb@doc.ic.ac.uk (D J Burke)
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Subject: Re:      Re: WB 3.0 with 2.04 rom
Date: 25 Jan 1993 13:52:53 -0000
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In article <I-AMIGA%93012508000658@RUTVM1.RUTGERS.EDU>,         AVERHE@BANRUC60.BITNET writes:
|> >
|> > jorrit@UZ.KULEUVEN.AC.BE writes:
|> > >Granted, for most of these enhancements you also need the 3.0 ROM but this
|> > >is not the case for some of them (like MultiView, datatypes, monitor files,
|> > >...)
|> >
|> > Multiview and datatypes use some new features in v39 BOOPSI, so they
|> > do require a 3.0 ROM.  Booting 3.0 with a 2.04 ROM gives you nothing
|> > new--just a stripped down (because v39 preferences don't work with a
|> > v37 ROM), somewhat unstable (because of the version mismatches) 2.1.
|> > All the new stuff in 3.0 is either in ROM, or depends on new stuff in
|> > ROM.
|> >
|> 
|> I've got somewhere the 3.0 on a disk, which you put in the memory with
|> 'rekick', something simular to zkick. The only difference is that it isn't
|> reset-proof, when you reset you get back the 1.2/1.3/2.0, or whatever your
|> roms are, and you have to reload the 3.0.
|> I've tested it some time ago, and it worked fine.
|> 
|> I now have exams, but when someone wants to have it, I'll mail it in 2 weeks
|> or so, just let me know.
|> 

Correct me if I'm wrong (I usually am *B) but isn't the 3.0 ROM image copyrighted
by our friend Commodore, so sending a copy to someone would be illegal ?

As unsure of the real world as ever

Dug Burke

-- 

 "To err is Human, to really screw it up you have to be a politician"

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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.i-amiga,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Maple V student edition
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:44:07 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Hi all,

	I have been told that MapleSoft is considering releasing a student
edition of MapleV for the Amiga.  For those who don't know, MapleV is 
a widely used symbolic-math program.  The problem is that MapleSoft is
currently _thinking_ about it.  The Amiga really _needs_ this type of 
software.  If you are interested in learning more about MapleV (student
edition) or interested in getting it for the Amiga when it is released,
please send e-mail to info@maplesoft.on.ca  and tell them.  The more
Amiga users express their interests on MapleV student edition, the more
interested Maplesoft will be... and the more interested MapleSoft is, 
the more good productivity program the Amiga will get...

	So, people, if you are interested, please act and send e-mail to
info@maplesoft.on.ca!

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
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