HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training)
Subject: Mail Order---Success!!
Keywords: mail order
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 00:40:52 GMT

I just got my TR-81!!! Yipeee!!  Electronic Wholesalers of Wayne,
NJ so far seems to be an OK mail order place.  They had a
reasonable price ($949 for the TR-81) and charged me only $10 for
the shipping.  They tried to sell me a case and stuff, but when I
said no, they politely complied.  The units was new, factory sealed,
blank registration card and serial numbers OK.

I guess Wayne is just far enough away from NYC so you don't get
jipped 8^).

--Surge
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tll@cco.caltech.edu (Tal Lewis Lancaster)
Subject: Re: C.H. members please respond! (Was: Request for LD-player comments...)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:13:42 GMT

jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:

>In article <1992Apr9.152251.673@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, ccw@prefect.uucp (26554-wood) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> I bought a Pioneer 3090 just before the latest round of griping.  No
>> problems with it.  No black lines, only occasional white lines, on the
>> five titles I own.  I'll be getting four more from Columbia House real
>> soon now.

>Did all the discs you own come from Columbia House?

>I just asked a question about a "white" line defect that I saw in Return
>of the Jedi.  What I didn't say is that I got it, along with the other
>Star Wars discs, from Columbia House.  Several replies said that this type
>of defect is pretty rare and yet all of your CH discs have it and so does
>the one disc I've inspected that I got from them (haven't had time to check
>the others yet, though.)

[Deleted stuff]
>So, CH members, please report on what you've seen in the discs you've bought.

The CH discs that I have so far are the three Star Wars movies.  
Didn't notice any problems with any of them.

Tal

Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Disney release policy (was: Fantasia 50 days)
Followup-To: rec.video.releases
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:53:18 GMT

Question: I thought (with the exception of FANTASIA, which was specifically
said to be unavailable after this release) that Disney's policy was to wait
until the film had been re-released theatrically, then release the video
version somewhat later, and for a limited time.  However, when the film was
next re-released (I think the cycle is generally 5-7 years), the video
version would be available again.

That would be less despicable, I think.  I just wish they'd get the laserdisc
versions of THE GREAT MOUSE DETECTIVE, 101 DALMATIONS, and PINNOCHIO out (in
the case of the latter, again.)

                           "Oh, Captain Crunch Comfort Ring, help me out of
                            this awful jam."
                                           -- Joel, MST3K
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                 **>> Keep circulating the tapes <<**
From: strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Life time of VCR video tapes?
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:10:55 GMT
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA

In article <7970838@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:
}In rec.video, mguyott@eriador.prime.com (M. Guyott) writes:
}
}> Star Trek Series) and I am wondering how long I can expect these tapes
}> to last before age begins to destroy them.  Are there any estimates
}> of longevity for these tapes?
}
}Tapes are estimated to last between 10 and 20 years, depending on the grade
}of the tape, the binder material, how often they are played, the condition
}of the player, and the method of storage.

How long a tape "lasts" depends on how you determine end of life.  In
fact, this definition is probably much more important than binder
material, etc.  If the onset of barely perceptible degradation is used
as the standard, then I suspect 10 to 20 years is reasonable. 
-- 

Norm Strong  (strong@tc.fluke.com)
2528 31st S.   Seattle WA 98144   USA
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: hsiaoe@vccsouth29.its.rpi.edu (Eric Hsiao)
Subject: Re: Surround Sound on TV Broadcasts
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:54:17 GMT

I'm currently in the Albany, NY area and I'm really disappointed with the TV
stations around here.  Of the 5 major stations (ABC,NBC,CBS,FOX,&PBS), only
two of them are broadcasting in MTS stereo.  PBS is one of them (isn't it
funny how commercial stations rake in much more money than public stations,
yet have inferior broadcasting equipment?)  NBC is the other station.  It's
1992 and MTS has been around for a number of years now, so why are these
stations still in the 70's technologically?  Albany is not a boon-dock area.
It's a mid-sized city with surrounding cities of Troy and Schenectedy. 
These stations spend thousands of dollars on their nightly newscast stage sets,
but no money to improve their broadcast equipment.  It's no wonder that the
3 networks are losing viewership to cable.  Wouldn't you rather watch HBO in
Dolby Surround than ABC in MONO?
   In other words, if TV stations want to get some of its viewership back, they
need to start upgrading their equipment for the nineties.
                           - Eric
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: HELP: Replacing VCR Heads
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:30:20 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <47790006@hpscit.sc.hp.com> bobw@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Bob Wilson) writes:
<In the process of replacing the tape head drum on my Magnavox
<VR9642 VCR (bought 4 yrs ago, 4 head, basic $300 machine), I
<removed more than just the head drum.  I removed the magnetic
<disc (on the opposite side of the shaft from the drum) and
<then removed the whole shaft assembly.  I thought that the
<magnetic disc acts as the motor to spin the drum.  Since there
<was no keyway or flat on the shaft, I assumed that the angular
<orientation between the magnetic disk and the tape head drum
<was not critical.  After putting all back together, I am seeing
<it play back SP tapes with white specs running throughout the
<picture and the picture from SLP tapes is terrible.  I have tried
<to adjust the rotational position of the magnetic disc with respect
<to the drum to see if there is a difference and it seems that there
<is, but it is fairly difficult to fine tune this due to the way the
<magnetic disc attaches to the shaft.  I did replace the drum carefully
<so as to keep the 6R and 2R sides of the drum in the same place on the
<drum holder as they were originally.  I haven't tried to adjust any
<other adjustment in the machine.  With a new drum, does the height
<of the tape guides need to be adjusted?  Is the orientation of the
<magnetic disc on the shaft important with respect to the orientation
<of the drum?  Was I in outer space thinking that I could do this
<myself??  Any advice would be appreciated.

Did you also purchase the service manual for the VCR at the same time that
your purchased the head assembly?  No, then you are SOL, since there a
bunch of electrical adjustments that MUST be done when the drum assembly
is replaced.
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Xref: sparky rec.video:6168 rec.audio:7311
From: davidv@sco.COM (Uncle David)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.audio
Subject: Pioneer VSX4900S/5900S Dolby Pro-Logic Receivers
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 23:28:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.


a local retailer has their Pioneer stuff on sale (closeout of the
old line, since the new stuff is coming out in a couple of months,
if not sooner), and has discounted the 5900S to $487, and the 4900S
to $377. they also have the 9900S for something like $697, which is
beyond my budget. i'd like to keep the amp under $500, since i'll
have to blow some money on a center speaker as well. the 4900S is
the cheapest of the bunch, but i favor the 5900S because it has
expandability in it beyond my current needs. the last time i bought
a stereo, i got bit by the fact that i hadn't really anticipated 
adding on a bunch of new stuff (Hi-Fi VCR and a LaserDisc player,
plus a seperate Dolby Surround Sound Decoder). so i'm looking to get
something this time that has more features than i might currently
need (planning for future growth). by that argument, i should probably
get a receiver with S-Video inputs, should i buy an S-VHS VCR in the
future, would mean getting the 9900S, which is out of my price range.  

the big question here: how good are the Pioneer units in comparison
to other Pro-Logic amp/recievers in the same price range? how good 
are they just as a generic amp/reciever? do i need a center channel 
that is of equal power to the main front speakers? how good are they
at doing video-switching (selecting an input source and piping it to
the TV set)? does it preserve the switching functions when you power
off the unit (i.e i've got the vcr selected as the input source to
the TV set, i then power off the amp, will it continue to pipe the
vcr video/audio to the TV set. this is semi-important since i have
a housemate who is a klutz at techno-stuff, and i'd like to keep 
things as simple as possible for him. if he doesn't have to turn
the stereo on to watch a movie from the VCR, that would be great).

either post to the net, or send me email. thanks!
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: jacques@tamri.com (Jacques Rutschmann)
Subject: Camcorder recommendation wanted
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, San Francisco
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 19:57:07 GMT

Hi, I am new to this newsgroup.

I am looking into buying a camcorder and would like to receive
some recommendation.

I am looking for:

- Spending less then $850 (mail order)
- Something compact (like the Sony TR81)
- Powerful lens as the camcorder will be used mainly for
outdoors sports (windsurf, ski, rock climbing....)

Would the Yashika KX77 (for $800) be a good buy?
I am also considering Sony TR9 ($799) and Canon E65 ($799)
The Sonny TR81 is too expensive ($998).
-- 
Jacques D. Rutschmann

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos)
Subject: Re: THX (The name)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 14:48:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (99E99) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.071049.18549@crash.cts.com> gregpen@crash.cts.com (Greg Penetrante) writes:
>}THE DEFINITIVE THX "WHAT IT STANDS FOR"
>} TOMLINSON HOLMAN EXPERIMENT.

>	Is that not a case of "retroactive acronymization"?  His college film,
>and later the expanded theatrical version came out first.

give that person a big seeegar!

it was nothing more than coincidence that the designer of the crossover that
later became THX had the "right" initials to his name.

believe me, i know whereof i speak...

Paul Theodoropoulos
formerly of Skywalker Sound

-- 
paul theodoropoulos                                         damiel@netcom.COM
From: kettyle@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (john.jr.kettyle)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: C.H. members please respond! (Was: Request for LD-player comments...)
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:13:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr10.145953.12262@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
> I joined CH with some hesitation since I wondered how they make there money
> and even posted a message expressing my hesitation with them, but I got
> so many replies saying how good they are that I decided to give them a try.
> Does everyone else who deals with CH have a lot of discs with white line
> defects?  It may be the case that they make their money by purchasing discs
> from manufacturers that don't pass the quality control tests, but which
> still play.  However, what I'd really like to hear, because the Star Wars
> discs are so expensive to get through other mail order places, is that this
> is not the case and in fact your five discs and my one are just flukes.  On
> the other hand, if they are representative of CH discs, then I want to get
> out of the club while I still have the choice.
> 
> So, CH members, please report on what you've seen in the discs you've bought.
> 
> Steve

In the case of CH they are owned by Sony which owns CBS/Fox which owns the
LD pressing plant in TerrorHause IN. Get the picture?

They sell all those CBS titles at a huge profit since they ARE the manufacturer

As for them selling bad pressings I don't know the Star Wars LDs ( 3 ) 
that I got from CH are okay. You might want to call and complain and see if
you can return for another set.

Yes they are expensive ( overly in my opinion) since you have them you might 
want to try to get the best copy you can.

Also as an aside note Voyager also uses this pressing plant and I believe
had the latest releases manufactured there. Has anyone seen marked 
differences between older Criterion titles and newer Criterion titles?


John Kettyle, Jr.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kev@osf.org (Kevin Till)
Subject: MailOrder Price for Panasonic PV-4160 VCR
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:30:49 GMT

Hi,
	I called a few places in the monthly Mail Order FAQ, the best price I 
got so far is Abe of Maine, $289.99 + $24.99(S&H). But that price doesn't
include the US warranty. Has any netter got a better price on the Panasonic
PV-4160 lately? Is the warranty worth the extra $50? 
	Any advice is appreciated!
-- 
Kevin T. Till	
System Engineering
Open Software Foundation
From: klein@napali.Eng.Sun.COM (Mike Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: More 3070/B units available at VideoScope
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:27:52 GMT
Reply-To: klein@napali.Eng.Sun.COM
Distribution: na
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: napali

I dropped in at VideoScope in Palo Alto CA yesterday and found three
stacks of 3070/B LD players, around 16 I would guess.  Some of the
boxes looked somewhat crunched though so be careful.

Their number is (415) 493-0500.

---

Mike Klein		{wherever}!sun!klein || mike.klein@Eng.Sun.COM
Sun Microsystems, Inc.	Mountain View, CA
From: rane+@CS.CMU.EDU (Aaron Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: cld-95
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:32:30 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

The CLD-95 also doesn't have the low prices all the 
other players do. I think the 95 was selling for ~$2000,
thoght I haven't really looked hard for one.
-- 
Aaron Hughes      #0482      rane+@pulsar.fac.cs.cmu.edu

		Bad cop. No donut.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Subject: Re: Fantasia 50 days?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  7 APR 92 04:28:14 EDT

In article <1992Apr4.153815.774@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes...

}} Why should anyone care?

} It's yet another chink in Disney's armor of credibility, that's why.

So who still believes anything that Disney says?

Remember that as recently as a year ago, Disney was still insisting that
FANTASIA would never ever nohow noway be released on video.

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: reddy@mips.com (T.S. Reddy)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: CLD-M90
Date: 11 Apr 1992 01:22:56 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: dish.mips.com
Originator: reddy@dish.mips.com

For anyone who is interested, Price Club in Sunnyvale has the CLD-M90 
Laser/Multi Disc player for $479.95. Of course, you have to be a member 
of Price Club to purchase anything there.


-- 
T.S.Reddy (e-mail: reddy@mips.com)
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: Surround Sound on TV Broadcasts
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:04:44 GMT


In article <1992Apr10.231633.27528@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> reha@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Reha Elci) writes:
>
>Is it my imagination or is Star Trek NG's surround sound encoded really badly?
>The center is quite low and the effects are way to high. I have usually have
>to decrease the effects quite a bit before I can achieve a reasonable balance.
>[...]
>Does everyone think so as well?

I don't know - I only wish our podunk local Fox would broadcast the show
in Stereo. Hell, I'd even settle for decent PICTURE QUALITY (out of all
the local stations in this cornfield, the station that comes in the
worst just happens to be the only station which crries the show I want
to watch the most. Murphy's Law in action :-(

A friend of mine loaned me a tape of one TNG episode I had missed which
he had recorded from WPIX in New York (Hi, Gary!) The surround on that
recording was quite subtle in the surround channels, so I suspect that
the problem you're describing is more a result of the setup at your
local station rather than the way the show itself is encoded.
From: rdemarti@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Ralph DeMartino, CCAC-LAD)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Best prices on TR-81, Ricoh R88H and Chinon C8-SC96
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:17:44 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I made some inquaries for those interested in good prices on the small
palmcorders.

I have a Chinon C8-SC96, a normal 8 mm unit, its been a good unit, and
has excellant autofocus and color clarity, mono hifi sound.  Do not buy
the Sony simple TR series like the 5 or 7, these have hunting auto focus
problems.  Go play with one and you will see what I mean.

The Sony TR-81 Hi 8 looks good though, the auto fucus is a bit faster
than my Chinon.  I can't tell you about the mechanicals, but the taped
picture looked great, contrast a bit better than my Chinon, its Hifi stereo.
I would consider replacing my Chinon with the TR-81 when it wears out.
Remember the clones are: Ricoh R88, Nikon VN700, Yashica KX77 and Fujix H80.

**** I know you have been getting the run around with some mail order houses.
So I did your home work for you and contacted some real good electronics 
dealers near me.  Both will ship UPS and are real easy to deal with.  They
have these items in stock now, and can get other brands.  If they do not
have it in stock they will tell you.  Mention my name (Ralph DeMartino) and
Videotech.****

Wholesale Photo and Video, Midland Park Shopping Center, Goffle Rd and
Godwin Ave, Midland Park NJ.  201-444-0777.  Ask for Les and mention my
name and Videotech for these prices, on Visa or MC only, no AMX.

$749 for Chinon SC-96 (I got mine a year ago for $905 with the
5 year factory warrenty
$1099 for Ricoh R88H (TR81 clone with 1 yr warrenty)
They can get the Sony, but it is tough to find and I did not ask the price.

Sammons Electronics, Preakness Mall, Hamberg Tpk, Wayne, NJ. 201-696-8855.
Ask for Mark and mention my name and Videotech.

$695 for Chinon SC-96
$979 for Sony TR-81 (they do not sell the clones, since they are authorized
by Sony)

If they do not have what you want in stock, try J and R Music world, in NY
at 1-800-221-8180.  To get a reasonable price you may have to tell them 
what you have seen the items advertized for and they may come down to 
an acceptable price.  Where ever you buy, always mention the Videotech
name, lets start using our strength in  numbers for bargining points!

I have nothing to gain through these stores, so any donations are gladly
accepted, ha ha.
					rdemarti@pica.army.mil
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.audio
From: surge@en.ecn.purdue.edu (PhD-in-Training)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Which PAL used in India
Keywords: PAL
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:17:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I would be intersted in converting an NTSC VHS tape to PAL to take
with me to India.  Does anyone know which of the PAL systems is
used there?  Is VHS the standard format over there?

Thanks,
Surge
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: an314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Timothy Golobic)
Subject: Re: Future HDTV Digiital VCRs?
Reply-To: an314@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Timothy Golobic)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 02:50:49 GMT


In a previous article, mce@tc.fluke.COM (Brian McElhinney) says:

>km@mathcs.emory.edu (Ken Mandelberg) writes:
>
>>I haven't seen much discussion of this. Presuming that one of the
>>digital HDTV systems now being tested prevails, what is the expectation
>>for future high end consumer VCRs?
>
>Not much in the near future.  All near-term commercial HDTV plans are
>for broadcast.  I would expect fiber optic cables to be next, and any
>kind of consumer playback/recording medium to be last.  The reason is
>that digital HDTV, with video compression, still has a bandwidth on
>the order of 20 Mbit/second!  It will be difficult to come up with a
>cheap, consumer, recording medium that stores 9000 Mbytes per hour.
>(And consider the number of hours in a typical video collection!)

as we discussed in my telecom class last week, an hdtv vcr would
run about $40,000, and have little storage capability.

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: gregpen@crash.cts.com (Greg Penetrante)
Subject: Re: THX (The name)
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 07:10:49 GMT

In <uslave.702672760@mcl> uslave@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (KJS @ucsb.mcl) writes:

>Sure, but does anyone know what THX stands for?  I hope this isn't a FAQ, and
>that it actually DOES stand for something.  :-)

>--
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THE DEFINITIVE THX "WHAT IT STANDS FOR"


THX sound system philosophy was named after its REAL inventor:
 TOM HOLMAN (Tomlinson Holman, to be sure)

Therefore, THX stands for:

 TOMLINSON HOLMAN EXPERIMENT.
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gregpen@crash.cts.com