From: endevour@wam.umd.edu (Afghan)
Subject: Re: Afghanistan is becoming a satallite state
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:20:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.034152.9947@athena.mit.edu> bhmughal@athena.mit.edu (Bilal H Mughal) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.152808.9279@wam.umd.edu>, endevour@next05epsl.wam.umd.edu (Afghan) writes:
>|> 
>|> Pakistan have conveniently divided Afghanistan between Pashtoons
>|> and non-Pashtoons, between Shia and Sunni.
>|> 
>[...]
>|> 
>|> Pakistan succeed in what the entire red army could not achieve. They have
>|> successfully divided us into Pashtoons, Tajiks, Hazara, Sunni, Shia, 
>|> Gulbudini, Jamiati etc etc. If we are with Gulbudin we turn our face 
>|> and bury our heads in the sand and say hey the rockets in Kabul came from 
>|> no where. If we are Wahdati we say the Afghan women who are frequently  
>|> raped by their members and Glemjam militia are having some kind of  
>|> delusion. If we are Jamiati we say that Rabani is indeed the President  
>|> while we very well know that he fixed the whole thing up. 
>|> 
>[...]
>|> 
>|> What a victory for Paksitan. The same Afghanistan who was determined to 
>|> claime its lost territory in Pashtoonistan and Baluchistan is now at the
>|> mercy of Pakistani Generals for its own existance. 
>[...]
>
>I'd like to see you expand on this thread.  Exactly what territory did
>Afghanistan lose in "Pashtoonistan" and Baluchistan?  When did this happen?  On
>what basis does Afghanistan claim these areas?
>
>The last question is partly rhetorical.  I presume that Afghanistan claimed these
>areas largely on the basis of ethnicity in that Baluchis and Pathans are major
>groups in Afghanistan as well as Pakistan.  If that is indeed the case, why not
>healthy chunks of Tajikistan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgystan and Iranian
>Baluchistan as well?  I am ruling out rationales from the pre-British,
>pre-nation-state times, for example, the unification of these areas under the
>Mughals, etc.

Clearly you are misinformed in the matters of history. Consult Afghan history
dating back to the rise of Ahamad Shah Abadali (Durrani) and onwards. 

You would find it quite illuminating.  

>But more importantly, with all this nostalgic yearning for
>more glorious days, can you fully justify, to yourself, that all your
>heartrending polemics are motivated by the humanitarian disaster in Afghanistan
>and not, atleast partly, by a desire to see Afghanistan again as a regional
>power throwing its weight around? 

I am the part of that "humanitarian disaster in Afghanistan". What you 
mockingly call as heartrending polemics is in fact a bitter reality that we 
Afghans have to live with day in and day out. It is as real as the Afghan women
who lies raped in the streets of Kabul, as real as the Afghan child that 
is burried alive under the fall outs of the "regional proxi-war". 

Believe me, we very well know what it means when regional powers, your own
Muslim brothers, throw their weights around and in the process suffocate 
the fallen warrior of a holy Jihad, of a sacred crusade that in fact saved
that very regional powers from utter disaster.

We have no wish to become that kind of a power. We do not want no Muslim,
nay no Human to suffer the pain, the humiliation and the torture we Afghans
endured in the past two decades. We just want to be left alone. Take those
weights off us. 


>In this context, I'd like to hear your opinion of
>Zahir Shah, the monarchy in general, and the days when Kabul, in concert with
>New Delhi, dreamed about carving up Pakistan along the Indus river.
>

Remember, I am your "demesticated Zaherite". This is what you labelled me
not very long ago. And I think we exhausted the subject rather to our 
satisfaction.  I am sick and tired of this cat and mouse game and would not
give you the pleasure of another round.

And as far as carving up Pakistan along the Indus river -- Well I think if 
there were such a policy in the first place it was not a very good one 
because why carve something up that is falling apart by itself. Keep sending
those armies into Sind, keep suppressing the Baluchs, keep killing the Mahajirs,
keep treating the Pathans as third class citizens and one day the Indus will
come to a boil and carve itself up. Remember Bangaldesh.  


>Without further speculation,

Now you are giving yourself a lot of credit here.


>regards,
>Bilal




H.Abed 
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