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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:24:58 -0500
From:         vanpatte@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Black English

In my class yesterday, I put up the (in)famous sentences "Where do you
wanna go?" (acceptable in my dialect) and "Who do you wanna come?"
(unacceptable in my dialect).  A student said that in another class, she
learned that the latter was possible in Black Vernacular English. Does
anyone know this or have references? Thanks in advance.
_______________________________________________
Bill VanPatten
Spanish, Italian and Portuguese
The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
vanpatte@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
(send email for mailing address)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:19:29 +1000
From:         "LLOYD HOLLIDAY, LA TROBE UNIV,
              EDUCATION" <EDULH@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: Lydia White Reference: Incomprehensible input

Hi Lester:

White, L. 1988. Against Comprehensible Input: the Input Hypothesis and the
Development of Second-language Competence. Applied Linguistics 9: 95-109.

Lloyd :)
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:52:32 MST
From:         Daniel Brink <ATDXB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: FLEAT CONFERENCE

thanks for the FLEAT summary.

Daniel Brink, Professor of English
Arizona State University, Tempe 85287-0302
602/965-4182o 602/965-3168m 602/965-2012f
Internet: ATDXB@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:16:00 CDT
From:         JOHN HEDGCOCK <ENGLJW@JETSON.UH.EDU>
Subject:      PhD program query

To SLART networkers:

Does anyone know of PhD programs in linguistics or applied linguistics where
students can receive training in discourse analysis (more specifically, areas
such as speech act realization theory, cross-cultural speech communication,
etc.)? A student in our applied linguistics MA program would like to do docto-
ral work in this area, and is particularly interested in Japanese-English com-
parative research.

Any hints as to where this student might send query letters?

Please send responses directly to me.

Many thanks,

John Hedgcock
engljw@jetson.uh.edu
University of Houston
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 07:41:00 PDT
From:         DON WEASENFORTH <WEASENF@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      FLEAT CONFERENCE

I'm looking for information about the FLEAT II Intl Conference (held
8/4-7/92), particularly about the intl e-mail festival.  I'd also like
info. on future FLEAT Conferences.
.
Thanks in advance.
.
Donald Weasenforth
American Language Institute
University of Southern California
JEF 141 - University Park
Los Angeles, CA 90089-1294
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From:         Lanise Aultman <la1@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 09:20:16 CDT
From:         adcohen@EPX.CIS.UMN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Michael Rost
              Sep 13, 92 6:40 pm

>
>Can anyone send me the e-mail/snail-mail addresses of Michael Rost (Temple
>University, Japan?) and Gary Buck, both in the listening field?
>
>Thanks a lot.
>
>Richard Pemberton
>
>Language Centre, Hong Kong University of Science + Technology
>e-mail: LCRPEM@USTHK.ust.hk
>        LCRPEM@USTHK.bitnet
>
I can help you out with Gary Buck who is now at the Dept. of Literature
and Languages, East Texas State University, Commerce, TX 75429.  His
fax is 903-886-5918, and when I spoke to him, he was not yet on e-mail.
His phone is 903-886-5268.
--
DR. ANDREW D. COHEN
ESL, 126 Klaeber Ct, U of Minnesota, 320 16th Ave SE, Mpls, MN 55455
Tel: 612-624-3806/Fax: 612-625-2312/E-mail: adcohen@epx.cis.umn.edu
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:25:09 -0500
From:         vanpatte@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Re: Research on Latin

Pete: I know of no work on Latin learning/teaching. You might write to
Richard Scanlan here at the U of I (Classics Department) who has great fame
with students in teaching Latin to undergrads. Perhaps he knows something I
don't. He is not on SLART and I don't have his email.
_______________________________________________
Bill VanPatten
Spanish, Italian and Portuguese
The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
vanpatte@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
(send email for mailing address)
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 06:48:10 -0700
From:         MACEYTAY@ARIZVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Black English

We don't say "wanta".  It's "wanna" and "gonna".  Down with consonant
clusters!  Up with diphthongs!!!

This is not just Black English.  This is high-class any color Southern,
too.  The historical reasons are obvious, but the phenomenon is now
racially unrelated.  I did a paper for McDavid on a similar topic
a million years ago.  Not a quotable one (done from memory, not field
work), but it had to do with dialectal differences within my home
area (Bluegrass), which (at that time) had a strong relationsship
to social position and cut across racial lines.  I used some Atlas
records for support, but most of it came out of my head.  I was still
uncontaminated enough to "make do" as the informant in this class
(Ling Inst, U Mich, summer 1957).  Alas, no longer!  Too much contact
with Yankees and too many years teaching ESL.

Macey Taylor
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:59:46 PDT
From:         TWXIE@UCDAVIS.BITNET
Subject: Re: PhD program query

> Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:16:00 CDT
> From: JOHN HEDGCOCK <ENGLJW@JETSON.UH.EDU>
> Subject:      PhD program query
> To: Tim Xie <TWXIE@aggie.ucdavis.edu>
>
> To SLART networkers:
>
> Does anyone know of PhD programs in linguistics or applied linguistics where
> students can receive training in discourse analysis (more specifically, areas
> such as speech act realization theory, cross-cultural speech communication,
> etc.)? A student in our applied linguistics MA program would like to do docto
> ral work in this area, and is particularly interested in Japanese-English com
> parative research.
>
> Any hints as to where this student might send query letters?
>
> Please send responses directly to me.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> John Hedgcock
> engljw@jetson.uh.edu
> University of Houston
>

Hi, John!

Did you post your query to SLART? If not, I suggest to post it and you may
get responses.

I have graduated from the PhD program of the University of Pittsburgh. Our
program is a foreign language education program where all kinds of languages
can be included. I, myself, studied teaching Chinese as a foreign language.
Hope it will help.

Tianwei
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:36:00 EST
From:         RDK1@PITTVMS.BITNET
Subject:      writing systems

Could anyone point me to good empirical research on the efficiency of
methods for teaching different writing systems (specifically in teaching
Japanese to native speakers of English), or to research on the role of
logographic systems in the language learning process more generally?
Thanks!
--Robert DeKeyser
University of Pittsburgh
rdk1@pittvms
rdk1@vms.cis.pitt.edu
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 12:43:47 -0700
From:         MACEYTAY@ARIZVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Black English

Although I don't say the second (or think I don't), I don't have any
problem with recognizing it as "normal" where I come from.  Without
the "do", it's quite normal and likely to be something I say.

Macey Taylor (originally Versailles, KY)
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From:         RDK1@PITTVMS.BITNET
Subject:      Re: writing systems

Thanks for the MLJ reference.
--Robert
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Subject:      restart

set slart-l mail
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Keiko Koda is now at Ohio University, Athens, Ohio in case you are interested
in contacting her directly.

Susan Lambert, UNC Charlotte
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:46:00 -0500
From:         JOHN HEDGCOCK <ENGLJW@JETSON.UH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PhD program query

Dear Dr. Holliday--

Many thanks for your swift reply to my query concerning PhD programs & cross-
cultural communication/pragmatics, etc. I appreciate your sending me the infor-
mation and will pass it along.

Regards,

John Hedgcock
engljw@jetson.uh.edu
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:13:11 -0400
From:         Leland Emerson McCleary <mccleary@CAT.CCE.USP.BR>
Subject:      Help

Any SLART-L subscriber live in Houston, Texas (713 area)?
Please reply to me personally.  Thanks.
Leland McCleary
mccleary@bruspvm.bitnet
mccleary@cat.cce.usp.br
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:01:15 +1000
From:         "LLOYD HOLLIDAY, LA TROBE UNIV,
              EDUCATION" <EDULH@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: PhD program query

Hi:
Try School of Education
University of Pennsylvania
3701 Walnut Street
Philadelphia PA 19104

Language in Education Division.

for special interest in Speech Acts, previous PhD s there have looked
at the acquistion of these by speakers of Japanese
courses in pragmatics, available in Linguistics Dept.
above school also has a program intercultural communication etc.

Lloyd Holliday

ex-student Upenn
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:14:47 CDT
From:         dennis muchisky <muchisky@UNLINFO.UNL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: metaphorical competence
              "MMCCASKEY%GUVAX.GEORGETOWN.EDU@KSUVM.KSU.EDU" at Aug 11,
              92 1:20 pm

On Aug. 11 a message came across SLART regarding metaphorical
competence.  At that time I replied I was doing a dissertation in that
area and several people requested additional information.  The letter
from a respondent in Australia was inadvertently erased.  If he could
resend his letter, I would be happy to send him the information he
requested.  Send the letter to Deborah Mixon at the following e-mail
address:  muchisky@unlinfo.unl.edu    Thanks, sorry for the snafu.
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 08:17:43 -0500
From:         vanpatte@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Re: Black English

Regarding my query the other day "Where do you wanna go?" (acceptable for
me) and "Who do you wanna come (to the party)?" (unacceptable for me), I
wonder if there hasn't been some confusion in the interpretation of these
utterances. Several people have commented that the second sentence is
acceptable and that they have heard it but I wonder if they have heard
'wanna' or 'wanta'. With 'wanna' you have a real contraction (which
contracts across a trace, hence unacceptable for me) whereas with 'wanta'
you don't have a contraction (instead you have a simple vowel reduction and
no contraction across the trace). I think most people would accept 'wanta'
but not 'wanna' in the second sentence. I still don't know if Black English
allows contraction across traces.
_______________________________________________
Bill VanPatten
Spanish, Italian and Portuguese
The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
vanpatte@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
(send email for mailing address)
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 13:15:40 -0400
From:         Barbara Freed <bf0u+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: FLEAT CONFERENCE

You might write to Willard Daetsch who presented at the conference:

Itahaca College, Department of German

Daetsch@Ithaca.Bitnet


Barbara Freed
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:46:00 -0500
From:         JOHN HEDGCOCK <ENGLJW@JETSON.UH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PhD program query

Dear Dr. Freed--

Many thanks for your swift reply to my query concerning PhD programs & cross-
cultural communication/pragmatics, etc. I appreciate your sending me the infor-
mation and will pass it along.

Regards,

John Hedgcock
engljw@jetson.uh.edu
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:27:39 CDT
From:         marc deneire <FREE0927@VMD.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      Virgil Benoit

Would someone have the e-mail address of Virgil Benoit at University of
Minnesota?
Marc Deneire.
French department
University of Illinois.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:11:55 -0400
From:         Barbara Freed <bf0u+@ANDREW.CMU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: writing systems

Robert,

 You may wish to contact Richard Donato who is in the process of
collecting similar information for a project we are doing.  He has been
in touch with a number of researchers in Japanese and has collected a
series of responses. You may also want to read earlier work by Lila
Gleitman and Paul Rozin where they researched the history and efficacy
of various writing systems in learning to read and write.

Barbara
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:22:43 SST
From:         "P.B.Nayar" <ELLNAYAR@NUSVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Annual RELC Seminar

This year the annual Seminar of the REgional Languae Centre, Singapore,
is on the theme "Language for Specific Purposes: Problems and Prospects".
The deadline for abstracts is November 15, 1992.

For more details contact: The Director
                          (Attention: SEMINAR SECRETARIAT)
                          SEAMEO Regiional Language Centre
                          30 Orange Grove Road
                          Singapore 1025

Phone: 737 9044   Fax: 734 2753   E.mail:  GBORELC@NUSVM
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:56:46 -0700
From:         SFOSTER@NAUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: PhD program query

In response to the query about PhD programs with training in discourse
analysis:  Northern Arizona University in Flagstaff offers a doctoral
program in Applied Linguistics.  One of the "tracks" of study we offer
is Applied Sociolinguistics, including discourse analysis.  Anyone
interested in receiving our brochure should e-mail me at:
Sfoster@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
WE look forward to hearing from you.  Best, Susan Foster-Cohen
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:40:37 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

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|Auckland University|                                                          |
|Auckland           |                                                          |
From: GR4302@SIUCVMB.BITNET
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Subject: poop musicology
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You don't have the time
And you rilly don't know
If you rilly want to get there

You better take time
If you want to take it along
When you go if you're goin'

I got socks and underwear
To last for a week
I got three-bean salad and tofu

I got nine packs of color TV Magic cards
And a balding spot
And three lines running to Sunday

Help my lungs are gone
Give me back my liver, Barnaby Jones
Help I got crabs from
A girl in Colorado with enormous ones
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On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:58:00 EDT Parker said:
>
>thrills me endlessly.  Spreadsheet, weak handshake, fake smile, bow your head
>at Thanksgiving even though you're an atheist, shave next time somebody
>important comes around, show bunt.  Quick, hide the drugs.
>
>ap
>
As you well know, I haven't shaved since 1973; which proves nothing,
since nobody important ever comes around.  We don't know how I'd respond.
We simply don't have the empirical data.  Perhaps you have faith that
I would shave; perhaps it has been revealed to you, BUT THAT AIN'T
SCIENCE, DAMMIT!  Are we scientists here, or weenie-ball, ouija-pushing
new-age geeks?  Huh?
And when I show bunt, pal, you better damn well expect me to bunt,
elsewise find some magic ointment to remove nine-inch bloody spike
gashes from yer sphincter.
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Subject:      Re: ibajibin
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I've tried this, GR, I rilly have; on my last declension to the
southern barracks, I placed bits and fragments of Her Most Sacred
and Divine words and I stapled, taped, hot-glued, epoxied, and
insert-in-slot-b-tab-a-ed everywhere, in the middle of the road,
to the left of the enormous clock tower which used to govern one
of the more vacant parks on the Trail of Tears amusement park
tilt-a-whirl, in one of the unexplored passages of Mammoth Cave,
right before the path of the redcarpeted ducks in Memphis, even
passed out sheets as the holy word in Shakertown once I'd donned
my disguise which lasted for a little while until I was asked to
explain my presence and why I was frightening the small children
with my evil grin.  I was, you might imagine, unable to compel
others to Follow, Lead, or Get Out Of The Way; I believe I may be
responsible thus for the recession.  Sorry, all; next time I'll use
GookCity (still waiting on Ch.2 Pt.2) ...
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From:         MARTIN FOX <FOXML@RHODES.BITNET>
Subject:      SUBSCRIBE SUNY/Stony Brook Literary Underground "Martin Fox"
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SUBSCRIBE SUNY/Stony Brook Literary Underground "Martin Fox"
From: GR4302@SIUCVMB.BITNET
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Subject: part two coming
Date: 13 Sep 92 07:03:54 GMT
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I've finsihed Part Two of ChookCity (called "Some Kind of Record" ifin
you recall) and should be posting it very soon.  I believe I'll also
repost Part One (slightly revised I'm sure but only slightly).  This'll
only be two of five parts, but I believe still about half the intended
length.  Please remeber again the only rule:  keep it electronic, never
to see print.  Thanks and enjoy (or whatever).
GR4302    ;^##
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On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:40:00 EDT Parker Parker said:
>>Orange you glad I didn't say Satan?
>
>Your dumb joke has been deleted with extreme prejudice.
>
>You said Satan.
>You said Satan when I was still saying crazy.
>You said Satan when Foss was dead.
>You said Satan when CYNOVY sprang eternal.
>You said Satan to anyone, indiscriminately, even H.
>You said Satan, "buddy", you were heard saying Satan.
>
>"Didn't say Satan" my jellyfish ass.
>
>goo
>oog

No, no- you don't understand.  The operative question here would be
"When did I not say 'Satan'?"  I would not answer, "I always didn't
say Satan", an obvious falsehood, but rather would inform you that,
on one accasion at least, I did not say "Satan', but rather said
"Orange".  There are very, very complex mathematical formulas here,
which would undoubtedly help you understand the situation, and I
would transcribe them- I would, that is, if you weren't such a weasel-
headed, gerbil-fucking dwarf.
Oh, I didn't mean that.  Never in a million years.  Got any drugs, pal?
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Subject:      armful's a chance way i be (oblivated re: post 2 Sep 92,
              09:47:12CST)
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armful's a chance way i be
if i don't know what i mean i see
i overtuned with up bars go
then wrenching i, eyes closed and hit
feet dangling like enobe god
gadzooks! ruminate i swiftly
marvelous i could awake from this
:^###^:
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