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From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Re: words from shAh-nAmeh [sci-anon-poster]
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:13:12 GMT

>Shahram writes:


>He was totally against Persian names. His reasoning was
>that Persian names like Afshin, etc were meaningless and Arabic names like
>ZahrA were beautiful and "bA mosammA". Now, how names like zahrA and
>Sakeeneh can be "bA mosamma" and "delneshin" is beyound me. My response to 
>him was: if we don't know the meaning of something, doesn't mean that it is
>meaningless.

Shahram Doost Gerami:

Thank you for bringing this issue and your comments on my posting.  A
lot of Persian names have deep meanings but people (like your Math
teacher) are living in the world of ignorance (please don't get offended
afterall all of us living in such a world especially myself!).  I think
we can start asking people to talk about the meaning of their names.  

That reminds me that a friend of mine brought a book from Iran last
summer, and in that book they listed many names known among Iranians
with the meaning and originality of the names (whether it is Persian,
Arabic, French, ...).  I will post the name and author of the book for
interested people especially for those who are having new babies.


>Anyways, you can start with your name. Is it Persian?


Well, many people asked that from me and I tried to reply them through
personal E-Mail.  So, let me go over that in public.

My real name is "Zamiad" (Zamyad).  Since birth it was a difficult name
for relatives and friends and my parents started to call me "Zamie". 
The original of the name comes from some 5,000 years ago.  Those days,
Iranians have a lot of respect for the nature and had several Gods for
different parts of nature.  You probably have heard of "Mitra" or
"Anahita" and ... The God of earth was Zamiad.  (even today you hear "Ab
Az Cheshmeh Zam Zam Mikoneh", that is originated from that era).  There
are two other meanings for that also.  In old time as you know Iranian
had names for each day of the month.  For instance, The seventh day was
called "Mehr day" (Mehr Rooz).  The 28th of any month also called Zamiad
Rooz.  The third and last meaning of this name is in Zoroastrian
religion (although I am not Zoroastrian).  Zoroastrian have different
Yasht in their book, Avesta(That is section or Sooreh for example in
Koran).  There is a Yasht called Zamiad Yasht.   

Shahram Jan, I started. Now it is your turn.

Take Care


Zamie



Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Babak Sehari
Subject: SIXTEEN SCHOOLGIRLS KILLED IN TEHRAN BUSH CRASH 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:19:19 GMT

----

 SIXTEEN SCHOOLGIRLS KILLED IN TEHRAN BUSH CRASH 
    NICOSIA, Dec 27, Reuter - Sixteen Iranian girls were killed on Sunday when
their speeding school bus crashed in Tehran, Tehran Radio said. 
    It said several girls were injured and taken to hospital. 
    The radio, monitored by the British Broadcasting Corporation, said the bus
collided with another vehicle and careered along the road for more than half a
mile (one km) before crashing into the concrete wall of a government building. 
 REUTER DYA TG
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Iranian, Turkish Presidents Urge Islamic Summit On Bosnia
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:00:57 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Originator: sehari@bart.ecss.iastate.edu

12/31 (DJ) Iranian, Turkish Presidents Urge Islamic Summit On Bosnia

    NICOSIA -AP- Iranian President Hashemi Rafsanjani and Turkish
President Turgut Ozal discussed the situation in Bosnia during a
telephone conversation today and called on Islamic countries to convene
a ''limited'' summit to discuss the issue, Tehran radio reported.
    The proposed summit would also consider the situation of the 415
Palestinians deported by Israel and the destruction of a mosque in India
by Hindu militants earlier this month.
    Iran has called for military action to deter the Serbs' ''ethnic
cleansing'' campaign and protect the Bosnian Muslims.  The country
regards itself as a militant supporter of Muslim causes around the
world.
    Meanwhile, students shouting ''Death to the Serbs'' converged on the
United Nations offices in Tehran today to display support for Muslims in
Bosnia-Herzegovina, Tehran radio reported.
    The broadcast, monitored in Nicosia, did not say how many people
took part in the demonstrators.
     9:10 AM
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From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Iraqi Memo Said To Show Bio-Weapons Stockpiling
Followup-To: poster
Originator: sehari@bart.ecss.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:02:40 GMT

12/31 (DJ) Iraqi Memo Said To Show Bio-Weapons Stockpiling

    UNITED NATIONS -AP- A document that Kurds say they captured from
Iraq shows Saddam Hussein's government stockpiled biological weapons
since at least 1986, the director of a human rights organization said
today.
    Andrew Whitley of Middle East Watch said the memo provides evidence
Iraq pursued a genocidal campaign against the Kurds with biological and
chemical arms.
    Iraqi officials were not available for comment, but earlier branded
similar documents forgeries. After the Gulf War ended in 1991, Baghdad
said it had no biological weapons program.
    If authentic, the document would provide the first known written
evidence that Iraq actually developed biological weapons.
    Whitley said he is convinced the document is genuine. He provided a
copy to the Associated Press.
    Biological weapons involve deliberate use of disease-spreading
toxins, micro-organisms and the like in warfare.
    Middle East Watch hopes to build a genocide case against Saddam
Hussein's government and bring it before the International Court of
Justice at The Hague.
    The group would have to find a government willing to sponsor the
case, since the court only hears complaints from sovereign states. No
government has ever pursued such a case under the 1948 U.N. convention
against genocide.
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which have privilege of transmitting news on the news wires.  So what
follows, might or might not be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing
but the truth.  Then again, it might be.  Here, I do not claim either.
I just would like to share with you, the articles that has been collected
on the news wires.

Make your own judgment regarding it's truth or falsehood.  If you believe
that a story does not make sense to you, please share your concerns with
others in the net, by posting them.

Thank you, for your informed readings.

                    With highest regards,
                         Babak   Sehari.
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From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: Restaurant Review: Azerbaijan Kitchen
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:20:30 GMT

hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem) writes:


>A few weeks ago, while in Washington on business, I had the pleasure to
>stop in at the Azerbaijan Kitchen. This is a relatively new restaurant
>(No more than a year, I think) on Wisconsin Ave. just across the street
>and a short way down from the Iranian Interests Section. The proximity
>to the Iranian Interests Section gives it great advantage to Kolbeh, for
>instance, which is many blocks down the street and a rather long walk
>for those who would rather not drive around town while their business at
>the IIS is being attended to.

>I had the combination "special" which is comprised of Kofteh Tabrizi,
>KabAb-e Barreh, and Jujeh KabAb. I found the Kofteh to be rather poor
>and I would not recommend it. The Jujeh KabAb, on the other hand, was
>VERY good. The KabAb-e Barreh was quite good, as well, but not
>exceptional. The prices were moderate (somewhat less than Kolbeh).

>The atmosphere was pleasant; the walls were decorated with various
>pictures of rural Iran. An Azeri friend of mine, however, was
>disappointed to find that there were no Turkish speakers in the place
>(indeed our waiter was Palestinian and did not even speak Farsi). The
>quality of the Kofteh and this fact bring serious doubts about the
>authenticity of this "Azerbaijan" kitchen. In any case, the quality of
>the Jujeh KabAb dispelled any care that I had about such trivialities.
I've heard that this restuarant have been through a few change in
management since it openned almost a year ago.  Originally they
had a very good cook but they lost him after a few months.
Unfortunately, you do not always get the same quality.  This seems
to be the problem with most Iranian restuarants.. a


>Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Babak Sehari
Subject: The allied force based in Turkey to protect Kurds in northern Iraq
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:12:22 GMT



    The allied force based in Turkey to protect Kurds in northern Iraq is
closely monitoring the situation but is not on special alert, an allied
spokesman said. 
    ``We are carrying on our missions as usual. Everyone has been told to
maintain vigilance but there is no alert,'' Major Mike Waters of the U.S. Air
Force said by telephone from the Incirlik airbase in southern Turkey. 
    About 70 U.S., British and French planes and helicopters are based at
Incirlik to patrol a no-fly zone north of the 36th Parallel similar to the one
over southern Iraq. 
 REUTER AS TG 

Xref: sparky soc.culture.iranian:11291 soc.culture.arabic:6380
From: massoud@chemteca.sdsu.edu (Massoud Ajami)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Question about rape
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:51:15 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University
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In article <43177@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> revans@euclid.ucsd.edu (Ron Evans) writes:
>From: revans@euclid.ucsd.edu (Ron Evans)
>Subject: Question about rape
>Date: 8 Jan 93 08:18:28 GMT
><9301070105.AA05389@apollo3.ntt.jp> farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp (Farzin Mokhtarian):
>                                          
>>"The only duty religion requires of a married woman is
>>submitting to sexual relations with the husband," she said.
>
>	I don't understand.  How often does the woman have to
>	submit?  What if she is only rarely in the mood?

As often as an American woman would do!
>
>	I have also a hypothetical question.  Two Muslim
>	women were raped today on different streets in the
>	city. One was wearing the hijab, the other
>	western dress and lipstick.  Would (should?) both
>	rapists receive equally severe punishment?
>
If you ask ACLU, "NO", the one with "lipstick" provoked him. If you want
to be rational, what dress has to do anything with rape. Few weeks ago an
80 years old semi-paralyzed woman was raped around here in San Diego (did
you hear the news? It was on ch. 39). Rape is a sickness, it is not like
salad bar which would taste different with "dressing".

>
>-- 
>Ron Evans (revans@math.ucsd.edu)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Babak Sehari
Subject: IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER LEAVES FOR EUROPE TOUR 
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:08:21 GMT



 IRANIAN FOREIGN MINISTER LEAVES FOR EUROPE TOUR 
    NICOSIA, Jan 7, Reuter - Iranian Foreign Minister Ali Akbar Velayati flew
to Warsaw on Thursday at the start of a four-day European tour, Tehran Radio
said. 
    It said Velayati will visit Paris to sign a new international treaty
banning chemical weapons in addition to official visits to Poland and Albania. 
    He will also travel to Austria to attend a conference of Iranian diplomats
in Europe, it said. 
 REUTER MZ BSB
From: 00h0maleki@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: saale noo
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:02:53 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's




        saale Maseihi jadid bar hameye Iranian maseihi mobarak bad.%
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Subject: Re: Re; Persian Words From ShAh-nAmeh 
Reply-To: zamie@zamiepcSanDiego.NCR.com (Zamie Mehraz)
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing, San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:47:23 GMT


>For the moment I can think of the following names:

>1)emitis    = gol-e banafsheh    (hovakhshatrah's daughter)

>2)behtis    = gol-e sorkh        (  "   "   "   "  son)

>3)mahtis    = mAh-gol, moon flower   (my cousin)

>I suggested to my aunt to name her second daughter "mahtis" instead of
>"mAhtis" or "mAh-gol", because she wanted a name to match her first daughter's
>name, emitis. She also named her son "behtis".

Shahram Jan Drood Bar tou:

By Hovakhshatrah, you are refering to Cyrus's grandfather (or the last
empror of Medes).  I did not know about any more daugthers he had beside
Mandana (Cyrus's mother).  Could you clear this for me if you have any
more information about this subject.  I certainly appreciate that.

>"tis" is an old Persian word for flower or blossom(shokoofeh/shekoofeh).
>Those who are familiar with mAzandarAni and
From: sze40@cards.ccc.amdahl.com (Suzan Ehdaie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Looking for old friends
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:38:25 GMT
Distribution: iranian.soc.culture
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


Hello Everybody,


I am looking for a friend from Highschool whose 
name is "Naz Afarin Kayvani".   Also searching
for another ancient friend called "Chista Faghihi-Nejad"!

If you know them by any chance, please inform me via email!
I would like to get a hold of them! 


Appreciated,

Suzan Ehdaie
sze40@ras.amdahl.com


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Subject: Re: Report: U.S. insists Pakistan prove it's not backing terrorists 
From: axavub@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:49:02 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1993Jan9.183119.11643@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:
> 
> 	ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (UPI) -- The United States has given Pakistain 180
> days to prove it is not promoting international terrorism, or else face
> weapons................................


           The basic question first of all is that how do you define TERRORISM?
        Keeping in view the classic meanings, a perfect example of a terrorist
        state would be the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.


               1. Being the only country to use atomic bombs and destroying
                  Japan.

               2. The top of the line example of Vietnam...

               3. The breakup of USSR

               4. Kidnapping of Gen. Noriega

               5. Exploiting the Gulf situation, and proving the law "Might
                  is Right"

              
              
                  And many uncountable acts of terrorism can be cited, If only
                  the CIA files could speak for the people, Government, and the 
                  BUSH of USA.
                  
                  
                  
                       A loin can always eat the lamb without any excuse.....
                       
                       
                       
           And America wants to be the "TERROR" or a policeman for the rest of
the world, by just involving itself into others affairs, specially when an
average American is struggling to support himself.......
                                        











                The question basically is, how do you define terrorism ?
        Infact keeping in view the classical meanings of terrorism, a perfe
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Iranian cleric takes another swipe at Clinton, Washington 
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:14:51 GMT


	ATHENS, Greece (UPI) -- A senior Iranian cleric accused the United
States Friday of serving ``only its own interests'' in the world, and
warned President-elect Bill Clinton against trying to dominate other
countries, the official Islamic Republic News Agency reported.
	Ayatollah Mohammed Yazdi, who heads Iran's judiciary, was addressing
worshipers on the Tehran University campus, which the ruling clerics
have used as a kind of makeshift mosque since the 1979 revolution that
toppled the late Shah.
	IRNA, monitored in Athens, quoted Yazdi as saying Washington was 
``pursuing a policy to serve only its own interests'' in the world. 
``You should respect the people of the world and the government leaders,
'' he said.
	He also warned Clinton against trying to dominate other countries
after he assumes office Jan. 20, because ``the era has gone when schemes
designed by the kings and subservient agents used to be carried out.''
	Yazdi's sermon marked the third time that Iran's ruling clerics have
hit out at Clinton since he was elected president in November. The
latest attack was less strident than the previous two.
	The cleric's outburst was apparently provoked by reports in the
Western media quoting Bush administration officials as saying Iran has
become the world's leading destabilizing factor since the collapse of
communism in Eastern Europe and the Soviet Union.
	The officials and Western news analysts said Iran has gained a strong
foothold in Sudan, where it is financing training camps for Islamic
terrorists trying to dislodge the pro-Western government in Egypt.
	The analysts said Iran was also backing Islamic fundamentalists
within Egypt itself, as well as Lebanon, the Gaza strip, Algeria and
Tunisia.
	IRNA said Yazdi ``rejected the poisonous propaganda of the U.S. mass
media to the effect that Tehran was the source of international
disorder.''
	He said ``Tehran's peaceful policies...are known to all,'' and that
Iran had ``time and again announced that it had no intention of
domination and hegemony against other nations.''
	IRNA said Friday's prayer ceremonies at Tehran University were
disrupted by an accident, when the scaffolding collapsed because of
heavy snowfall, and four worshipers were injured.
	For the first time since the 1979 revolution, the sermon was not
broadcast live on Tehran radio, the news agency said.


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From: mirfakhr@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Kaveh Mirfakhraei, TN/OULU/TORI, 981-224 555)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: AghAye Hojjat Salemi
Date: 10 Jan 93 09:06:18 GMT
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.


   Aghaye  HOJJAT SALEMI  salam, 
   unfortunately i can not send you email
   to answer your question about 'Moafi'. 
   There is something wrong with your email address.
   Any suggestions?


   Kaveh


   Here is the header of the answer which bounced back to me.



>From:	SMTP%"postmast@bnr.ca"  8-JAN-1993 20:34:35.47
>To:	MIRFAKHR@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi 
>CC:	
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>
>From: "BNR (N.) Postmaster" <postmast@bnr.ca> 
>To: MIRFAKHR@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi 
>Subject: Delivery Report (failure) for hojjat@bnr.ca 
>Message-Type: Delivery Report 
>Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:24:44 -0500 
>Message-ID: <"bcars520.187:08.00.93.08.10.47"@bnr.ca> 
>Content-Identifier: re: moafi 
>
>This report relates to your message: re: moafi
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>
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>        hojjat@bnr.ca for the following reason:
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>        Unknown local user 'hojjat' (Unknown alias type ''
>        '/S=hojjat/PRMD=BNR/ADMD=TELECOM.CANADA/C=CA/') 
>
>***** The following information is directed towards the local administrator
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