From: PA146008@utkvm1.utk.edu (David Veal)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: FREE 1-YEAR NRA... enough allready!!
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:33:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Tennessee, Knoxville

In article <cthong.714252777@sfu.ca>
cthong@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher Thong) writes:

>
>veal@utkux1.utk.edu (David Veal) writes:
>
>>In article <cthong.713767290@sfu.ca> cthong@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher Thong) rites:
>
>>>>Ah.  You're from the place which has a leadership that's so
>>>>anal-retentive, it has outlawed CHEWING GUM.
>>>sigh.... once again my insulting young friend....get your damn facts
>>>straight - the act of chewing gum is not illegal in s'pore.
>>>it's the importing of the gum to SELL that is.
>
>>     Not totalitarian control, just trade barriers.

>you make it seem like it's either a personal thing or something bad.

     It is a personal thing.  And it can be bad.  Because the government
has said you shouldn't have it, doesn't make haiving it something bad.

>firstly , it affected ALL manufacturers of the gum ,  not just american
>gum makers .

     I don't care whether it's U.S. manufacturers (What, you think I only
object because the U.S. can't ship gum tehre?) or it it's purple polka-
dotted manufacturers.

>secondly , people like you will never understand that
>responsibility has to be taken for every decision and mistake.

     "People like me."  My, nice to know you've got the story of my
life next to your computer.

     I believe in individual responsibility.  The key word be *individual*.
No one else should be held responsible for my actions.  When somebody
misuses bubble gum (I can't *believe I just typed that) you throw them
*under* the jail if the effects are that bad.  You don't tell everybody
that (God, am I really arguing this?) uses their bubble gum responsibly
that because some ass stuck it in the rail system that they're going to
be punished.

>i can live with having to restict my intake of gum in order to have a
>smooth running system .

     That is more than apparent.  Freedom is a dangerous thing.  In
order for all to be free, some must be free to abuse their freedom.  In
order tprevent that small number from abusing their freedom, it is
necessary to take away all people's freedoms.
     You feel free because the government has never told you to stop
doing something you feel sufficiently strongly about.  Their attacks
on freedom have never truly hurt you.

>you tell me how you feel the next time you have
>a wad of it on your soles or fingers...

     Oh, God almighty help me perservere.  Somehow the next time
I get gum stuck on the bottom of my shoe (The evil effects of a gumman?)
I don't think that my first reaction is going to be to go and demand that
the government stop everybody else from chewing gum.

>>     Did it occur to anybody to make the subway system gum-proof rather
>>than making laws against chewing gum?
>
     I don't delete the above because I really *am* curious whether this
occured to anybody.  Was it considered and rejected?  I can't imagine
it would be impossible.  If it was, New York's subways would be down all
the time.

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