From: Minotaur@cup.portal.com (Frank - Swilling)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: ***APOLOGY*** (kindly read me)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 11:08:23 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <66580@cup.portal.com> <1992Sep25.180836.17263@spdcc.com>

Bob Donahue, who really hates these little intros, goes ballistic:

>>>Minotaur@cup.portal.com (Frank - Swilling) writes:
>>>        But contributes little.  Ironically, he contributes the same
>>>thing he condemns within others and int he group-at-large.  But who
>>>am I to judge someone else's glee at misanthropy?

>>Talk about contributing little!  Here I stand accused, tried, and
>>convicted, and I don't even get the benefit of seeing the evidence
>>against me.  I was *framed*, I tell ya!  It's Shaumeyer ya want!
>>He's the gleeful one around here.  Tell him, Jeff, tell him!
>>Oh, the irony.  The rusty, rusty irony!

>        What, don't you keep a copy of your postings?

Not usually, but we'll get to that in a while.

>        What irony?  Look at your first line up there.  I
>cannot place a single posting from you on this newsgroup that
>is not intended to insult someone and nothing more.  I read nearly
>everything on here and have a pretty good memory - esp. things
>that were well-written and/or brought something to the group.


The irony I was poking fun at was your use of the word "irony"
to accuse me of something without backing up that accusation with
a shred of evidence.  I have never written a *single* *posting*
*ever* that was intended to "insult" someone and nothing more.
I suggest that you don't comprehend what you read, and I will
demonstrate that you have a pretty shitty memory indeed.


>        Seems to me all you want to do is bicker.  Can't you do
>that elsewhere - or is it you've already used up all the people
>around you in real life?  It that is the case, then happily USENET
>*can* accomodate you.  There are plenty of newsgroups that cater
>to nothing but bickering (believe it or not soc.motss isn't one
>of them), I heartily encourage you to make use of them.

I heartily encourage you to go fuck yourself, you supercilious moron.

>>>        Follow-ups directed where they belong.  Given Frank's
>>>postings, I'm sure he would agree, but for reason is unable to
>>>change the headers himself...

>>Excuse me?  There's something wrong with my headers?

>        Yes, for some reason... you keep spelling
>alt.flame s-o-c-.-m-o-t-s-s.  Now be a good lad and go play there.

I like it here just fine, thanks.  *You* may leave if you like.

>        No, don't react and follow-up to this here...  You'd just
>be proving my point.   If you *really* want to get back at me,

The only point you seem to have is on your head, dickbrain.

>trying rubbing some neurons together, and posting something of

Great advice -- you should have taken it before posting this absurd
article.  Hubris is hot on your heels, Bob, and here it comes:

>true soc.motss interest.  You can be sure that 'll be right
>up there saying "Gee, Frank - you had it in you all along."
>Go ahead - I dare you.... I DOUBLE dare you...  (I suppose adopting
>the correct lingo makes it easier for things to progress...

>BBC

True soc.motss interest, eh?  Well, I suppose *you* are going to get
to define that, and I understand that your dream of sucking Wilford
Brimley's hairy cock is where it's really at for you, soc.motss-wise,
but what follows is a tiny list of articles I have posted this month
that at least one other person has found of value:

The GLBO-Film List.  Although I put this together at first on a whim,
thinking it was a fun thing of limited interest, I continue to get
mail from people telling me how much it has helped them put together
their collegiate GLBO film festivals.

My "cows" article about how you can't help but be influenced by other
people has gotten me some nice mail from people who have variously
found it "thoughtful" and "interesting".

I just yesterday received a piece of mail from a woman asking if she
could quote from my response to Bob Sarver regarding the "60 Minutes"
piece on Gay Cops to her P-FLAG group.  Another person was kind enough
to say that it was the "most intelligent, compassionate" piece he had
ever seen posted to soc.motss.

Posting my reply from Levi's regarding the Boy Scouts issue prompted
at least one other person to come forward and ask for a reposting of
the addresses he could write to, which I also gave.

Jogging your memory at all, Bob?  There are other articles I could
name, but what's the point of this trip down memory lane, since
you've already read everything and remember it all.  Ah, well, I have
accepted your dare, I have accepted your double-dare, and I have upped
the ante twice again, and seems that maybe I had it in me all along and
you just weren't paying attention.  Based purely on what you have said,
you owe me a public apology.  Somehow I have the feeling that I'd better
not hold my breath waiting for you to be adult enough to deliver it.

Still, I can't help wondering "What is it that set this guy off?"
Judging from what you've said, it *must* be the less than reverent
style with which I approach most people and topics.  You see me as
intentionally trying to inflict pain?  Hardly ever.  Guess what, Bob,
I'm a smartass.  I was a smartass the day I showed up here, and I'll
be a smartass the day I leave here.  Get used to it or put me in a
killfile right now, because from where I sit, you're just an asshole
with terrible reading skills and a chip on his shoulder.

Frank
Minotaur@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.motss