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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Lakers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:34:35 GMT

tron@tc.fluke.COM (Peter Barbee) writes:
>Let's get real.  Threat is a fine guard but he really isn't awesome.  He
>played 3 (?) years here in Seattle and while he certainly contributed he
>was rarely awesome (unless of course you consider almost anything an NBA
>player does on the court as awesome, which is true but beside the
>comparative point we're discussing).
	
>Threat hasn't been an All-Star and I'll bet he won't be.

	Hey, nobody really said that he was an all-star.  Threatt has
	been a consistent guard the past 8 years in the league.  He's
	solid and U can count on him every night.

>Threat, as a point guard, was not able to beat out Nate McMillan (whose
>career is suddenly blossoming but 3 years ago was considered the weakest
>starter on the Sonics).

	McMillan has always been considered the "glue" of the Seattle
	team.  Early in his career, he started at point guard, and one
	season, even finished in the Top 5 or so in the NBA in assists.
	While he lacked offense early in his career, he was always a solid
	defender and team leader.  He's weak in scoring, but certainly
	not weak in other areas.

>Threat didn't start consistently at 2 guard - although he did start and
>play more at 2 than at point.  Ellis started and by the end of Sedale's
>last year here Pierce was starting.

	Threatt is really a combination guard -- not really a point and
	not really an off guard.  In an ideal situation, he would come
	off the bench as a 3rd guard, which was the Lakers' intention
	when they originally signed him.  However, with Magic's departure,
	he's forced into that starting point guard role.  And based on
	his performance last season, he did a rather admirable job.
	The reason Ellis and Pierce started is because they are big
	offensive guns, something Threatt is not.  Instead, Sedale is
	a guy who can come in and hit some open jumpers, play tough D,
	and handle the ball some, so that your team doesn't lose all that
	much while the big gun (in those cases, Ellis and Pierce) were
	out.  A solid player.

	Now, here's a question.  Threatt holds an honor all to himself
	in the NBA.  What is this honor?

	Jazzy J

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From: chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller)
Subject: Re: Trade Rumors ?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:04:57 GMT
Keywords: Rodman, Charlotte, Detroit, Reid, Newman 


	I also heard a rumor that Danny Ferry of the Cavs was on the trading
block!! Rumor has it that Cavs are looking for a good athletic supporter
in exchange for Mr. Ferry. But I doubt if there will be any takers!!

- Dan
  Come-on ( Ferry-less ) Cavs

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From: hymie@fff.chem.utah.edu (James Kleimeyer)
Subject: Jazz Lose Opener (Again)...
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 01:11:16 GMT


Boy, it really hurt to watch...

Jazz lose by 15 *AT HOME*!

Is it just me, or did the Jazz overpass on Friday?  They seemed to turn  
down a lot of open shots, especially in the first half.

The Jazz trying to play transition basketball?  It's just not their style.   
I don't think they have the team speed for it.  They should stop listening  
to the criticism about their "predictable" half-court game, and just do  
it.  It's simply too effective to abandon.

Mark Eaton has received a lot of criticism in his career, but Friday night  
his presence was surely missed.  They say that Eaton "just stands there  
and clogs the middle." Well, right!  What's wrong with that?  Chris  
Mullin, who is hardly known for his blinding speed, was driving the lane  
at will.  Ouch!   The "man-mountain" would have prevented a lot of that.   
"Eaton doesnt have any offense..." We have plenty of guys who can put the  
ball in the hoop, so his lack of offense is hardly a problem.  I hope he  
comes back soon, because I don't think Brown or Austin can really cut it  
as a starting NBA center.

The Warriors certainly deserved this one.  By the way, that kid Spreewell  
might have a future.

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From: cheng@jackal.metaphor.com (Chun Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Is Chris Jackson regaining his shot?
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:03:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Metaphor Computer Systems, Mountain View, CA
Originator: cheng@jackal

Reading the scoring column, I saw C. J. scored over 30 pts in the first 2
games.  I wonder if he has regained his shot or it is just a fluke.  Thanks
for any insight!
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From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Mil 86- Det 81 : BOXSCORE
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 22:20:04 GMT

tdexte16@ursa.calvin.edu (Terrence Dexter) writes:

>det ( 0- 1)     min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
>thomas,isiah     38   4  25   0  9   2  5   1  4   7  5  2  4  0  0  0  0   10
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

And 4 for 13 from the floor the following night. Did Magic's
retirement jinx Isiah? If this kind of performance repeats in
the next few games, it won't belong before we see talks of Isiah's
retirement.

>rodman,dennis    33   2   9   0  3   0  2   6 14   2  2  1  1  0  0  0  0    4
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It seems like holding out hurt Rodman. However, one game shouldn't be
judged upon. Let's see how he does in the next few games.

>|  - Terry Dexter, Calvin College  ||G|     I teleported home one night
>|  -  tdexte16@ursa.calvin.edu     ||E|     With Ron and Sid and Meg
>+----------------------------------+|B|     Ron stole Meggie's heart away
> Quote from Douglas Adams (RATEOTU)  -      And I got Sidney's leg.

    --mack

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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Re: Isiah's shooting
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:59:41 GMT

In article <JAKE.92Nov13130209@nucst6.neep.wisc.edu> jake@nucst6.neep.wisc.edu (james blanchard) writes:
>
>It seems like every time I look at a Detroit boxscore, Isiah Thomas
>has shot less than 50% for the game, and often he has shot something
>like 25% for the game.  So does anyone know his career shooting
>percentage?  Is it anywhere near 50%?  While you're at it, how about
>coming up with his season-by-season field goal percentages for every
>year he's been in the NBA.  I'm curious.

No, he has never shot 50%...in fact, in the last few years, it's been
atrocious, hovering around 43 and 44%.

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From: pkeenan@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Patricia Keenan)
Subject: Re: Jordan's back
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:18:36 GMT


 I think the first time it really bothered him was against Indiana. They didn't really say anything about how it happened, just that it had been bothering him extremely the last couple games. If I was Phil(which I'm not) I *might* consider 
sitting MJ for a game or two just to avoid what happened to Larry Bird the last few years when he tried to play with his bad back. But then again I don't know 
what the cause of the injury is or what kind of treatment he's getting for it.
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Knicks Roster
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:32:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.BxBAEF.AM4
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Nov6.151553.5683@pixel.kodak.com> Frank Brown writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.132727@is.morgan.com> Anthony Abenante writes:
>>
>>The Knicks have made their final cuts, and suprisingly, Bo Kimble beat 
>>the odds, and made the team. Greg Butler and Lewis Geter were waived 
>
>This is really a surprise considering the fact that I didn`t see
>where anyone on the net thought he would make the team. 

Well, if Eric Anderson made the Knicks, they certainly must have had some
room for another guard who was better than your average 6-9 Smrek.  I was 
surprised Bo made it, too, though, since they just had so many solid guards.
Anybody see another trade in the works for a big man here?  It certainly
wouldn't surprise me.

>>Anthony

>Frank
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From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Not for humor impaired
Date: 10 Nov 1992 23:36:55 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

Hi there

The Bulls capitalised on the day-off for the Milwaukee 
Bucks and won a tough match over Indiana to gain 1/2
game over the Bucks and close the gap.
The Bucks lead the Bulls by half game with 80 of their
games remaining.

Oh well I have not yet fully recovered from the endless
games behind postings in Newspapers , Talk Show guys
and TV broadcasters talking about the Brewers this 
Summer and Magic number etc


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From: sikorski@news.miami.edu (Richard Sikorski)
Subject: Re: Miami Heat roster
Organization: R.S.M.A.S.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 17:28:12 GMT


A little more...

kevin loughery		head coach
lewis schaffel		managing partner
billy cunningham	partner a.k.a.the kangaroo kid
ron culp		trainer
eric reid		sportschannel-florida announcer
jack ramsay		sportschannel-florida announcer
bob woolf		grant long's agent-attorney

	vegas odds for nba title 40-1
	am radio: 560-wqam, 830-wrfm spanish,
	   1290-wbzt palm beach, 1500-wkiz key west.
	broadcast tv: 33-wdzl (21 games)
	cable sportschannel-florida: (45 games)
	cable tnt: nyn@mia 05feb, por@mia 24feb
	cable wtbs: mia@atl 28nov, mia@atl 27mar
	cable wgn: chi@mia 11mar, mia@chi 14apr
	cable wwor: njn@mia 14nov
	broadcast nbc: all-stars 21feb (glen rice!), bos@mia 17apr

grant long still unsigned as of 11AM 04Nov

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From: sikorski@news.miami.edu (Richard Sikorski)
Subject: Re: Orlando/Miami: Miner? Seikaly v. Shaq?
Organization: R.S.M.A.S.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 19:32:28 GMT


Heat rookie Harold Miner (USC) got 8 minutes in the first half of game 2
(vs. njn Nets), and I came across some comments by coach Loughery after
the game.  Makes sense to me...

 "Harold has a lot to learn," Loughery. "Its going to take him a while.
 [...] And I have to figure out how to get him in the game more."
 Miner, "I want to be out there, but that's the coach's decision."


also, In article <BxGMo3.JFK@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> cnahm@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Charles Nahm) writes:
>Did Seikaly play? if so did he get dominated by Shaq?

seikaly,rony	1988 syr 6-11.5,250 #4 c; '91: nba#6 11.8rpg, 16.4ppg

The Heat doubled-up on Shaq O'Neal, so a one-on-one comparison isnt
easy.  In post-game interviews in Miami, Miami Coach Loughery and Center
Rony Seikaly both felt Seikaly handled Shaq pretty well.  Seikaly had 
put in some one-on-one time against Shaq in the preseason, and had a
good sense of the patterns and moves he likes to use.  Shaquille lost 8
turnovers in the game, and eventually fouled out, but managed 12pts and
18 rbs, including a couple of really nice layups, so it wasnt one-sided.
O'Neal had a better game #2 ... I'm sure there's more to come...

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From: edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: P.M. Dawn and NIKE
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:47:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: 3cpu.4310
Reply-To: edrury@3cpu.UUCP (Ed Drury)
Organization: Garden Lane Software

In article <BxKs8K.L1D@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pkeenan@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Patricia Keenan) writes:
>edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury) writes:
>
>> Wonder what people in Detroit thought of it.
>
>  Does anybody *REALLY* care what people in Detroit think? 

 Isn't it kind of naive, if not down right mean spirited to assume
otherwise? I know I do care about what a few people in Detroit think.
I have friends living there and made some friends who came out following
their team in the finals a couple of years ago. They are nice people
and they are Piston fans. Imagine....

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From: vince@paradyne.com (Vince Ciletti)
Subject: Re: Knicks Roster
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:01:44 GMT

In article <BxBAEF.AM4@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.151553.5683@pixel.kodak.com> Frank Brown writes:
>>In article <1992Nov4.132727@is.morgan.com> Anthony Abenante writes:
>>>
>>>The Knicks have made their final cuts, and suprisingly, Bo Kimble beat 
>>>the odds, and made the team. Greg Butler and Lewis Geter were waived 
>>
>>This is really a surprise considering the fact that I didn`t see
>>where anyone on the net thought he would make the team. 
>
>Well, if Eric Anderson made the Knicks, they certainly must have had some
>room for another guard who was better than your average 6-9 Smrek.  I was 
>surprised Bo made it, too, though, since they just had so many solid guards.
>Anybody see another trade in the works for a big man here?  It certainly
>wouldn't surprise me.

USA Today reported Friday that Riley is trying to convince management to 
pick up Herb Williams.  They were balking at picking up a $5M contract for 
a backup to Ewing, but who knows.  If they start to see "championship", 
anything can happen.

Vince
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Knicks Roster
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:41:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bx951B.91D
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Kenon Warren Tutein <kt25+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Who is this Anderson guy for the Knicks?

	Eric Anderson, 6'9" rookie free agent forward out of Indiana.  
	Personally, I was surprised he made an NBA roster.  I mean, he had
	skills, but his senior season was a downer compared to his previous
	years at Indiana.  Anyways, Anderson is a solid player underneath,
	and also possesses a very nice touch from the outside for a big man.
	He is solid fundamentally, which is perhaps why he made the roster.
	(But then again, who from Indiana isn't?)

	Jazzy J
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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Bucks win first for Dunleavy
Date: 7 Nov 1992 17:00:41 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Behind a very solid all-around performance by Frank Brickowski, the Bucks
beat Detroit at Auburn Hills 86-81 to open the season. Brick had 19 points
on 7-13 from the floor, 5-5 from the line, and had 7 boards, 7 assists, a
blocked shot and a rebound. 

I only saw the second half, but was told I didn't miss much. Milwaukee looked
like a young team, making many mistakes. But Detroit was just awful. Nothing
showed this more than the performance of Isiah Thomas. He made only 4 of 25
shots, including missing his last 13 and two open 3's in the final 10 seconds.

Although one game doesn't mean anything, I still think Isiah is one the most
overrated players in the game. He's a jerk too. As Dunleavy walks by to shake
his hand after the game, Isiah just puts his head down and keeps walking. What
class and sportsmanship. On this night, Eric Murdock held the advantage over
Thomas in every statistical category except steals where Thomas had two and
Murdock only one. I doubt if that'll happen again this year, but it was nice
for at least one game. :)

The Celtics, easy winners over the T-wolves, come to the Bradley Center for a
8 p.m. game tonight.

--salty

p.s. Does anyone have an in-depth view from the Utah-G.S. game that they would
care to post?

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From: mmt2q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Michael M. Y. Tsai)
Subject: Barry and somebody for Vought
Originator: mmt2q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:25:07 GMT

Does anybody have more information about the Celts wanting to trade Barry
and another player to the Clippers for Loy Vought? From the last
two games that the Celts played they need defensive help bad.
     
Also, what type of player is Vought. I have not heard much about him
since he graduated from Michigan.    

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From: vince@paradyne.com (Vince Ciletti)
Subject: Re: KNICKS
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:04:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.000036.13858@cbfsb.cb.att.com> wine@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (edward.j.winemiller) writes:
>In article <1deb20INN2ia@male.EBay.Sun.COM> donald@dswalker.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>>You are dreaming buddy, Golden State win the championship.
>>
>>Season starts tonight, so here's my prdiction.
>>
>>Knicks vs. Cleveland in the Eastern Finals
>>Golden State vs. San Antonio in the West
>>
>>Knicks vs. Golden State in the Finals
>>
>>Knicks win championship
>>
>>GO KNICKS
>>
>>                               Paul
>>
>
>	So tell us Paul, do believe in Santa Claus & the Easter
>	bunny also?		

Yep! The Easter Bunny is bring the Championship to New York in May!

GO KNICKS

Vince
From: halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Magic
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:38:08 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Nov6.075956.1@tango.cchs.su.oz.au>, castillo@tango.cchs.su.oz.au writes:
>  
> Don't they (the NBA management) conduct any medical checkup/examination for
> all NBA players every year or so?  Just an inquiring mind wants to know.


	I'm sure there is a pre-season physical. I doubt very much that a blood
test for HIV is included. Something like that would have to be part of the
Collective Bargaining agreement between the player's association and management.

	What do you expect the NBA to do? Publish the names of HIV+ players as
part of the league injury report? What about the player's right to privacy? You
think the NBA would try to ban HIV+ players from the league? I can see the
lawyers queueing up for that lawsuit now! :-(

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From: jhak@sofya.math.byu.edu (Justin Hakanson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Lakers
Date: 8 Nov 92 01:22:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah

>>>>Duane Cooper, Anthony Peeler, Tony Smith, Roy Sparrow, Sedale Threat
>>>							^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>
>>>	This man is a solid player.  In fact, last season, in his 1st year
>>>	at the helm of the Lakers, he basically was their MVP.  He led the
>>>	team in shooting % and assists, and was the man that kept LA into
>>>	the playoff race.
>
>>Sedale did have an excellent year, but I don't think he'll do as good
>>this year.  He's still a solid player, but his stats won't be as good
>>as last year.  Anyway, that's just my opinion...
> 
> 
>Well actually, I would think that his stats would be better this year.  
>Now he has more people to work with (i.e. Worthy, Divac, Perkins,Peeler,
>Edwards?).  His scoring will probably go down but this should improve his  
>assists.  Also, Sedalle will be taking less shots, so the shots that he will
>take will probably be of a higher percentage that say that Knicks game in NYC
>last year when Sedalle exploded for 42 of the hardest points I've ever seen
>anybody score.  Any Sedalle doubter would be amazed at what he did when he
>was called upon to score.  Ever since then, I've considered Sedalle amongst
>the better point guards in the league.   

The way I see it, the Lakers were in a sort of disarray last year, and when
Sedale came, he was the only player really able to get things done.  This
year I'd think the Lakers are a little more prepared (w/ Worthy, Perkins,
and Divac healthy, and Magic's retirement not such a shock) and the rest of
the team will do better, therefore, his stats will go down.  I'm sure he'll
be a good point, but he won't have the kind of year he did last year.

Justin.
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