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From: twilson@alfred.carleton.ca (Tom Wilson)
Subject: Re: El Al Disaster
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:44:48 GMT

In <10545@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> harold@cs.uq.oz.au (Andrew Wood) writes:

>In <10525@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> bakker@cs.uq.oz.au (Paultje Bakker) writes:

>>I would be grateful for any further news. Which airlines still use
>>747-200's?

>QANTAS! I think they have a few. They have mostly upgraded to the 400's
>but still fly a few 200's

>A.
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The ones I flew in July were numbered 747-338s, HNL-SYD and back.

Tom
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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Boeing Customer Codes
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 07:23:57 GMT

> The following are all now part of Canadian International Airlines
> (which uses CP as its code) along with Canadian Pacific.
> 
> 42  Nordair  flew Ontario/Quebec/Northwest Territories routes
> 75  Pacific Western Airlines  flew western Canadian routes
> E1  Eastern Provincial Airlines  flew routes in the Atlantic provinces

Add Wardair to that list. :-(
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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: davelett@athena.mit.edu (Richard Sun)
Subject: Re: Southwest, hubs, and shuttles
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:54:09 GMT


I wouldn't be surprised either way.  If they have to pull out another plane
for one person, they will, but I would expect them to ask people to wait an 
hour, given enough incentive.  (Like a free flight.)  But then again, I was on
a Saturday night flight (the last one) in the days of the old PanAm Shuttle
a couple of years ago, and there were only four passengers on the 727.

Keep in mind that pulling another plane or cancelling a flight will tend to
skew their scheduling up, because the plane will be in the wrong city.

The biggest frill an airline can give for a short flight, by the way, would
be their frequent flyer program.
From: rymon@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Ron Rymon)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Extra 6000 miles for USAir Frequent Travelers
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:34:49 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


 Anybody knows if the 6K, and other BONUS miles (e.g. 1st class) count
towards the 12K.

-Ron
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From: leop@percy.rain.com (Leo)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Tell if travel agency is legitimate?
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:12:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: percy.BvqH08.F7B
Organization: Percy's mach, Portland, OR

henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>philip@research.canon.oz.au (Philip Craig) wrote: 
>->I have found tickets from "name" airlines are of the order of US$1500, but
>->I have found a company in London that sells them for around US$500.
>->
>->Quite a difference! ...
>->
>->Failing that, how can I tell that if I buy my ticket then I'll get my flight,
>->or at least my money back if the organisation doesn't deliver? I have heard
>->of something called the IATA. Is this relevant here?
>it absolutely is; IATA is the international association of travel
>agents (i don't know if the letters IATA actually stand for these
>words, but that's what the agency is).  travel agents who are members
>of IATA post a bond (sometimes with the national affiliate of IATA) which
>protects customers in the event that the agency goes belly-up ...
>obviously, IATA agencies aren't usually fly-by-night operations; if
>they were, then IATA would disappear fast as claims were made ...

On the other hand, don't IATA agents agree to follow certain pricing
guidelines?  I know that in Amsterdam, the cheapest tickets by far
were from a non-IATA bucket shop that specialized in such things.  I
did take the precaution of calling the airline and verifying that I
had both a reservation and ticket issued in my name.  I figured with
that and ticket in hand I was covered.  All the flights were on
regularly scheduled airlines - no charters.

Wouldn't paying by credit card afford some protection?  Trip insurance
would be another possibility.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: cid@athena.mit.edu (Derek H Cedillo)
Subject: Re: Is Continental's freq. flier program a sham? 
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:56:06 GMT


chohan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harpal Chohan) writes:
[tried twice to get on One-Pass with vouchers, and never
 recieved nothing]

I have had great success with One Pass.
I have made 4 flights from Bos-Chi RT.  
This flight is in actuallity only about 1000 miles in length.
But with a EWR or CLE connection and all the bonus miles,
I now have roughly 18,000 miles.  That's an average
of 4500 miles a trip when it is only really 2000 miles.
They have been great with me.
Try calling 1-713-952-1630
I dont know if youve tried that or not, but that is the
One Pass service center number.
Good Luck!

Derek
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: marke@ultra.com (Marke Clinger)
Subject: Re: Is Continental's freq. flier program a sham? 
Reply-To: marke@ultra.com (Marke Clinger)
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 17:38:07 GMT

Funny. I signed up right before getting on a flight. Received my card
in no time and added my old mileage to my new account. I flew them
like twice and had almost 10,000 miles because of all their promo's.

They seem to offer the most amount of rewards for flying them, but
it isn't worth the trouble of flying Continental.

Marke

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From: mangieri@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Car Rental in Orlando
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:47:27 GMT

I'll be going to Orlando (WDW) December 8 -13. I have
decided to rent a car. The best deal I could find so far is
$19 a day from Thrifty and Alamo.

I've heard rumors of $59 per week. Anybody have any ideas ?
Also comment on pros/cons of the major vs minor car rentals
if you have anything to add.

Thanks. 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: mcinnes@iiasa.ac.at (Robert  McINNES)
Subject: Re: Canary Islands  Info request
Organization: International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis, Laxenburg, Austria
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:46:36 GMT

There's just about everything you'd want to do - or maybe not want to do
on the Canaries. A lot depends on which of the islands you're on.
Teneriffe and Gran Canaria are the most touristically developed althouf
Fuerteventura and Lanzarote are fast catching up. If you're after sun
and fun; or is it sexa nd drugs and rock 'n' roll probably Ten. or GC
would be the best for you.  If you want to just sit back and watch the 
waves you could try La Gomera or La Palma.  There is wonderful scenery
on all the islands but a lot of people seem to get so involved in the hedonistic
beach life that they don't get to see much. For all sorts of what are
probably the wrong reasons I love Gran Canaria.  I've been there twice this
year and am going back for another 2 weeks at Xmas.  A couple of warnings:
Don't expect any quaint fishing villages (they exist, but see above);
most of the areas where you will find accomodation are huge complexes
which have been built over the past 20 years and don't forget that the
Atlantic never gets very warm; 20-22 degrees Centigrade is the warmest it
gets in the water.  Let me know what your interests are (honestly) and
I'll try and give you some tips on fulfilling them.
Hasta lluego!
Bob McInnes
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Greenland
Date: 13 Oct 1992 17:39:37 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Greenland
============================================================
Greenland - Consular Information Sheet
 October 7, 1992

U.S. Representation:  There is no U.S. Embassy or consulate in 
Greenland.  For assistance, American citizens can contact the U.S. 
Embassy in Copenhagen, Denmark; telephone (45) (35) 42-31-44.  

Country Description:  Greenland is a highly developed stable 
democracy with a subsistence economy.  It is a self-governing 
territory of Denmark. 

Entry Requirements:  A tourist or business visa is not required for 
stays of up to three months.  For further information concerning 
entry requirements for Greenland, travelers can contact the Royal 
Danish Embassy  At 3200 Whitehaven Street N.W., Washington DC 20008, 
tel (202) 234-4300, or the nearest Danish Consulate General in 
Chicago, Los Angeles, or New York.

Medical Information:  Medical facilities are available.  U.S. 
medical insurance is not always valid outside the United States.  
Travelers have found that in some cases, supplemental medical 
insurance with specific overseas coverage has proved to be useful.  
Further information on health matters can be obtained from the 
Centers for Disease Control's international travelers hotline on 
(404) 332-4559.

 Crime Information:  Greenland has a low crime rate.  U.S. citizens 
can refer to the Department of State's pamphlet, "A Safe Trip 
Abroad" for ways to promote a more trouble-free voyage.  The 
pamphlet is available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. 
Government Printing Office, Washington DC 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use, and dealing in 
illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

 No. 92-023
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Malta
Date: 14 Oct 1992 01:14:44 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Malta
============================================================
Malta - Consular Information Sheet
 October 7, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy in Malta is located on the 
third floor of Development House, St. Anne Street, Floriana, 
Valletta.  The Consular Section may be reached at (356) 240424/425, 
243216/217/653, or 223654.

Country Description:  Malta is a developed Mediterranean island 
nation, positioned as a cultural and political stepping-stone 
between Europe and north Africa.  Tourist facilities are widely 
available.

Entry Requirements:  Visas are not required for tourist stays of up 
to three months.  For further information concerning entry 
requirements for Malta, travelers can contact the Embassy of Malta 
at 2017 Connecticut Avenue N.W., Washington, DC 20008, tel: (202) 
462-3611, or the nearest Maltese consulate in Boston, Detroit, 
Houston, Kansas city, Missouri, New York, Pittsburgh, St. Paul, or 
San Francisco.

Medical Facilities:  Medical care is available.  Doctors and 
hospitals often expect immediate cash payment for health services.  
U.S. medical insurance is not always valid outside the United 
States.  Travelers have found that in some cases, supplemental 
medical insurance with specific overseas coverage has proved to be 
useful.  Further information on health matters can be obtained from 
the Centers for Disease Control's international travelers hotline on 
(404) 332-4559.

Crime Information:  Malta has a low rate of violent crime.  
Incidents of pickpocketing and purse-snatching are relatively rare.  
U.S. citizens can refer to the Department of State's pamphlet, "A 
Safe Trip Abroad" for ways to promote a more trouble-free voyage.  
The pamphlet is available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. 
Government Printing Office, Washington DC 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use, and dealing of 
illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

Registration:  Americans who register in the Consular Section of 
the Embassy can obtain updated information on travel and security 
within the area.

 No. 92-035
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Algeria
Date: 7 Oct 1992 15:04:03 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY - Algeria
============================================================
Algeria - Warning
 October 7, 1992

The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to defer all travel 
to Algeria.  The U.S. Government has ordered the departure of most 
dependents of Embassy personnel, including all children, in response 
to the increased risks of terrorist bombings, assassinations, other 
violence, and political turmoil.  U.S. citizens currently in Algeria 
should consider departing as well.

Terrorist bombs exploded in Algiers on August 26th at the 
international airport and at the office of an international airline. 
 Other bombings and shootings have occurred recently.  These 
developments indicate that foreigners may become the victims of 
violence.  U.S. citizens currently in Algeria are advised to avoid 
all public gatherings and demonstrations, and take precautions to 
avoid terrorist attacks.  They should cooperate fully with security 
forces at all times, and should remain in close contact with the 
U.S. Embassy in Algiers for additional specific instructions.

U.S. citizens currently in Algeria should avoid travel to the far 
southern region of Algeria.  Numerous incidents of banditry and 
assault involving foreigners have been reported.  Bandits have 
robbed, ssaulted, kidnapped, and killed travelers in southern 
Algeria.  The government of Niger has closed the main crossing point 
between Niger and Algeria for security reasons.

U.S. citizens currently in Algeria are encouraged to register with 
and request current information from the American Embassy in Algiers 
(tel.  60-14-25 or 60-12-55).  Operations at the U.S. Consulate in 
Oran have been temporarily suspended.

 No. 92-170

This replaces the advisory dated August 28, 1992, to advise that 
dependents of U.S. Embassy personnel have been ordered to leave 
Algeria, and to advise private U.S. citizens to consider leaving as 
well.

Newsgroups: rec.travel,alt.business.multi-level
From: df2tg2n@ties.bell-atl.com (Steve Rosen)
Subject: Ever heard of UNIGLOBE Travel?
Reply-To: df2tg2n@shoes.bell-atl.com
Organization: Bell Atlantic - Phila, PA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:47:19 GMT

My sister has been given a tentive job offer with a company called UNIGLOBE
Travel, International which is based in Vancover, BC, Canada.  They are in
the business of selling travel agency franchises where an initial fee is
paid in return setup and then a percentage of income paid back to the
parent corporation.  Evidentally this company is popular in Canada (more
than US) and was started by the Canadian head of Century 21 real estate.

It sounds like a legitimate business, but in hearing the details of how
they work, I am not so sure.  I doubt this is an MLM, but it may be a very
gimicky way of selling (or a very clever one depending on how you look at
it).  In advising her on her job switch from a travel agent to related
sales, I became slightly wary about how they work.  I ask her how big of an
area she would be responsible for and she told me that a sales rep
typically works a very small area.  In her case she would do
sales/presentations for the downtown Philadelphia area only. That sounded
like too small of an area to me.  There are plenty of travel agencies in
that area and realistically, how many franchises could one expect to sell
in such a concentrated area?  Sounded odd to me.

Anybody have any more details, ideas, etc. or know anything more about
them? Basically, are they legitimate?  Any suggestions on how to look them
up?


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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: DISNEYWORLD
Cc: chenry@cbnewsi.cb.att.com
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:02:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.113923.6509@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> chenry@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (catherine.b.henry) writes:
>Greetings, All!
>
>My family (35 year-old husband, 8 year-old daughter, and 5 year-old son) 
>are planning on visiting Walt Disney World (FLA) next year, but don't know when.
>As usual, I have a load of questions for which I only get consistent answers
>from this newsgroup, so... (taking a big breath!):

Your absolute best bet is to invest in a copy of a really good tour
book, like Birnbaum's Unofficial Guide to Disney World.  You have a lot
of questions, and you'll think of more.  The book can answer them.

>(4) what's the best way to manage breakfast, lunch, and dinner with my 
>family? Stick to the hotels for breakfast and dinner due to crowds? (I am
>just guessing, I have absolutely no idea -- which is why I am asking the
>group!)

I had to address this one.

You will be horrified at how expensive food is in WDW.  Really.  The only
sane way to do a week's trip is to get a room on Disney property at one of
the less expensive resorts (Dixie Landings, Carribean Beach), and insist
(nicely) on a refrigerator.  They have these for people who have perishable
medication.  Buy breakfast supplies locally:  milk, OJ, cold cereal, etc.
Unless you are independently wealthy, you won't want to eat every meal
(or even most) in the Park.

Actually, I should retract the previous statement and amend it.  Food
isn't expensive in WDW, *everything* is expensive.  If, like me, you're
one of those people who likes to browse the shops, the prices may shock
you.

Consider joining the Magic Kingdom Club if you're not already a
member.  There are some discounts on various things.  See the
rec.arts.disney FAQ.

The major restaurants in EPCOT require reservations in advance for
dinner.  Some Disney properties will do this for you, I've been told,
but ask.

Finally, start reading rec.arts.disney.  Many of your questions come up
there time and time again; you're bound to learn a lot, and you have some
months yet before you're going to Orlando.

Charleen

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From: egz@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Crete
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:53:16 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Dear Fellow Travellers,

Has anyone been to Crete (Greece)? I am planning to visit there
(read some very nice things about the place). What should one
know before going there? Places to see or avoid? Good books?
Thanks

  Zoltan
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Bulgaria
Date: 9 Oct 1992 12:11:12 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Bulgaria
============================================================
Bulgaria - Consular Information Sheet
 October 7, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy in Sofia, Bulgaria, is located 
at 1 a. Stamboliski Boulevard; telephone (359) (2) 88-48-01 to -05.  
The Consular Section of the Embassy is located at 1 Kapitan Andreev 
Street in Sofia; telephone numbers are the same.

Country Description: Bulgaria is a moderately developed European 
nation undergoing profound political and economic changes.  
Impassioned debate, political rallies, and periods of strike 
activity are regular features of the scene.  They do not typically 
pose a threat to U.S. citizens.  Tourist facilities are not highly 
developed, and many of the goods and services taken for granted in 
other European countries are not yet available.

Entry Requirements:  A visa is not required for tourist visits of 
less than 30 days.  An AIDS test is required for those staying more 
than one month for purposes of study or work; U.S. tests are not 
accepted.  For further information concerning entry requirements, 
travelers can contact the Embassy of the Republic of Bulgaria at 
1621 22nd Street N.W., Washington, DC 20008, tel: (202) 387-7669.

Medical Facilities: Medical facilities are limited.  Some medicines 
are in short supply.  Doctors and hospitals often expect immediate 
cash payment for health services.  U.S. medical insurance is not 
always valid outside the United States.  Travelers have found that 
in some cases, supplemental medical insurance with specific overseas 
coverage has proved to be useful.  Further information on health 
matters can be obtained from the Centers for Disease Control's 
international Travelers hotline on (404) 332-4559.

Crime Information: Bulgaria has a low rate of violent crime.  
Recently, however street crime has increased, especially at night 
near major hotels and restaurants.  The Department of State's 
pamphlet "A Safe Trip Abroad" is available from the Superintendent 
of Documents, U.S. Government Printing Office, Washington, DC 20402. 
 It provides useful information on guarding valuables and protecting 
personal security while traveling abroad.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use, or dealing in 
illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

Registration:  Americans who register in the Consular Section of 
the Embassy can obtain updated information on travel and security 
within the country.

 No. 92-010

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: rob@vitsemi.com (Rob Eccles)
Subject: Re: Exchanging money in Europe
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: Vitesse Semiconductor
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:22:40 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.093917.7775@rz-berlin.mpg.de> schindler@rz-berlin.mpg.de writes:
>2. All the North American systems like Cirrus, Plus and alike are
>extremely rare. Actually, I never noticed even one.

I did some research on this.  The Plus cards are accepted by ATMs in the UK
and <rarely> in some other European countries, for example.  

Contact your back before you leave.  Find out if your card will be accepted
where you are going.  There are usually 800 numbers that you can call, also.
>
>3. Two ways to get money are by credit cards (Amex, Visa and
>Mastercard (called Eurocard)...) and to exchange cash. Both is possible
>at most of the banks. Most stations and Airport have banks that
>exchange money and accept credit cards. However, they often charge
>more than the other banks.
>
I brought travellers checks on my last trip.  I exchanged them at local
banks.  Shop around different banks, there are variations in rates.
Do avoid changing money elsewhere.

Most successful was using Visa/Mastercard for purchases as often as possible.
These are accepted at most places we visited, and the commission is low.
Call your bank for more info.
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