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From: sya@admin.keh.utulsa.edu (Syed Shibli)
Subject: Weather forecast
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 16:08:14 -0500
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From the keyboard of Black_Swan, who writes:

>In the tropic it is not uncommon to see rain splashing across a block
>while another is completely dry. My Malay friend here told me they
>call it, literally translated, ``running rain''. 

  I've seen this phenomena on numerous occasions. It is bizarre
  to be able to walk from a street under heavy downpour to another
  which is completely dry. If you've just waxed your car, knowing
  this bit of info can be pretty useful. 8)

--
Syed Shibli
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From: billd@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bill D'Camp)
Subject: Re: Cheap airfares to Asia
Organization: Grumman Corporation
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:21:46 GMT

I've been flying Korean Air for several years between the west coast
and Seoul.  I'd say their service is first rate, my flights have been
very comfortable, the attendants always solicitous, and no problem
with lost luggage or other typical worries.  I've also flown KAL
between Seoul and Hong Kong, same experience, so if the tickets are
now cheap, I'd say grab them, I plan to return to Seoul soon, and
that's the airline I expect to fly.
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From: hubbert@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (john hubbert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean,soc.culture.thai,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong,rec.travel
Subject: Re: Travel in Indonesia, Papua New Guinea
Keywords: Indonesia, Java, Bali, Irian Jaya, Papua, New Guinea
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:41:58 GMT
Reply-To: hubbert@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (john hubbert)
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University


Hi out there

I am planning a trip to Indonesia / Papua New Guinea from
mid December to February 1. High on my list to see are:
Java (Yogyakarta), Bali, Lombok to Timor islands, Irian Jaya
and/or Papua New Guinea. Has anybody Traveled there recently?
I'm reading the Lonely Planet travel books but I am also
looking for people who have had pesonal experiences with
this area of the world. Any relavent experiences that would
help me on my journey would be appreciated.

Has anybody traveled on the Sepik in Papua New Guinea?

Thanks for any info. that you might have,

John Hubbert
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: ges@boris.net.com (G.E. Song)
Subject: Re: Bad neighborhoods in Singapore
Organization: THE WORLD
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 17:05:30 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.043717.24986@newsroom.utas.edu.au> u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia) writes:
>From: u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia)
>Subject: Re: Bad neighborhoods in Singapore
>Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:37:17 GMT

>In article <ges.17.0@boris.net.com>, ges@boris.net.com (G.E. Song) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1992Aug19.224159.3313@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au> u3169709@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Numero Uno) writes:
>> >From: u3169709@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Numero Uno)
>> >Subject: Re: Bad neighborhoods in Singapore
>> >Date: 19 Aug 92 12:41:59 GMT
>> 
>> >sya@admin.keh.utulsa.edu (Syed Shibli):
>> 
>> >>Numero Uno:
>> >>> ... Then came the liberalisation of soft-porn movies to
>> >>>titillate population growth.  ...
>> 
>> >>  This is odd usage if I ever saw one. Soft-porn movies become
>> >>  "liberalized", and they go on to "titillate" the growth of
>> >>  the population.
>> 
>> >It's Singlish; words (in this case the gerund "screening") are
>> >sometimes omitted, if the meaning is obvious from the context.
>> 
>> >An example:
>> 
>> >        I got very kind mother
>> >        (Here "mother" is non-specific because it is obvious
>> >        to the speaker that she has only one mother)
>> 
>> >Another example:
>> 
>> >        I cook myself
>> >        (I cook for myself)
>> 
>> This is bad language. Perhaps it would be better if Singlish was not
>> encouraged.
>> 
>> 
>> >-Num
>> 
>> 
>Who defines 'bad language' anyway? Who's to say it ain't right. I'm sure
>even Henry Higgins would have no objection to Singlish as a varient of 
>English. Afterall, getting people to say Toe-may-to instead of Toe-mar-to
>(or was it the other way round) is like debating over whether eggs should
>be cracked from the big ends or the small ends.

>Edmund
 
I would consider something as bad language if people 
have to make unreasonable assumptions in trying to understand
what is being said. I think I may have objections to Henry Higgins
if that's the way he speaks.
From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: [Discussion]: Absorbing Immigrants into S'pore
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 92 12:41:33 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep2.010257.6892@nuscc.nus.sg>

What is considered and immigrant in Singapore. Are Malaysians 
immigrants. What about Indonesians?

Hassan
From: esl_manager@gimme.uh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: [Discussion]: Absorbing Immigrants into S'pore
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:49:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1992Sep3.174908.5857
Reply-To: esl_manager@gimme.uh.edu ()
Organization: University of Houston

In article <1992Sep3.121549.8405@newsroom.utas.edu.au>,
u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia) writes:
|> From: u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia)
|> Subject: Re: [Discussion]: Absorbing Immigrants into S'pore
|> Message-ID: <1992Sep3.121549.8405@newsroom.utas.edu.au>
|> Sender: news@newsroom.utas.edu.au
|> Organization: University of Tasmania (Australia)
|> References: <1992Aug27.230036.3780@menudo.uh.edu>
|> <65141@cup.portal.com> <65163@cup.portal.com>
|> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:15:49 GMT
|> Lines: 16
|> 
|> In article <65163@cup.portal.com>, hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu
|> alam) writes:
|> 
|> (stuff deleted)
|>  
|> > I take it this covers the large number of Malaysians settled in
|> > Singapore. (I dont know what % of the immigrant population they
|> > make up, can someone fill me in?). 
|> > 
|> > Do your questions and request for discussion regarding integration
|> > and melting pot apply to these people also?
|> > 
|> > Hassan
|> 
|> Nearly ALL Singaporeans were at one time(and not too long ago)
|> Malaysians.
|> 
|> Edmund
|> 
Well, Edmund has a valid point there. If we go back far enough, a lot of
people in many countries would be considered immigrants. The U.S. is a
fine example---it is a country of immigrants, except the American
Indians. So, we come to the question of who are considered natives.
Perhaps one can say that the original people who was indigenous to that
land are natives.

But, we are NOT discussing about natives. We are discussing about
citizenship and immigrants in a modern democracy.  Perhaps, we should
limit the time-frame to the last 10 years in S'pore. So, let us discuss
the above-mentioned topic based on these assumptions.

--
Arthur
From: zi22+@andrew.cmu.edu (Zulkafli M. Idris)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: MERDEKA!
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:48:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gechbwm00WBL49SFs8
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

MERDEKA, MERDEKA, MERDEKA, MERDEKA, MERDEKA, MERDEKA, MERDEKA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
35 tahun.
              TANGGAL LIMA PULUH TUJUH BULAN LAPAN LIMA PULUH TUJUH

###############################################################################
#
                    Ohh I wish I were there with TUNKU
From: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg (Teng-Kiat Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Looking for a friend
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:25:31 GMT
Reply-To: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of EE, National Univ. of Singapore

In article <1992Aug20.092103.15327@nuscc.nus.sg>, tiakjung@longan.iss.nus.sg (Chng Tiak Jung) writes:
|> I am looking of a friend who supposed to be doing research in IBM. His name
|> is Thio Hsiao Choong. Anyone know his email address?
|> 
|> Tiak Jung
|> -- 
|> Chng Tiak-Jung                               Internet: tiakjung@iss.nus.sg
|> Institute of Systems Science                           Phone: +65 772-6382
|> National University of Singapore                         FAX: +65 778-2571
|> Singapore 0511                       BITNET: ISSCTJ@NUSVM, CHNGTJ@NUSDISCS

Why don't you ask his father? head of computer centre.

Kiat 
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Teng-Kiat Lee                        VLSI CAD & Design Lab
Internet: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg      Microelectronics Div.
Bitnet:   eleleetk@nusvm.bitnet or   Dept. of Electrical Engineering
          ltk@nuseev.bitnet          National University of Singapore
Voice:    (065)-772-6319             10 Kent Ridge Crescent
          (065)-467-1518             Singapore 0511
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: US vs British university degree
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:11:48 GMT

echong@porpoise.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Chong) writes:
: 
: >IMHO Malaysian Government should only send scholarship holders to the top
: >Universities in the World, after spending so much money on them, instead of
: >sending to the lower class ones. They may as well be sent to local Universities.
: 
: I think so too. In fact, I know of very few Malaysians in the very top
: engineering schools.  I've always wondered why. Is it because they do
: not know what the top schools are? There are tons of Taiwanese,
: Koreans, Japanese, and Hong-Kong students at these top universities.
: Where are the Malaysians?

It is because of stupid Government policies prepared by jealous planners.I'm
sure they know which Universities are the better ones but it may not be their
university.

I do not come from an elite University. I graduate from City University,London.
It is not as prestigious as University of London group of 
Colleges although it is located in LOndon. People tend to confuse my university
thinking that it is part of the University of London.

However giving graduates from Elite Universities a better chance of promotion
is supported by me "very strongly", at least in planning departments, although
I'm not in contention. I do not mind having a boss who graduate form MIT with
Sum Cum Laude honours.

I do mind if my boss is from a British Polytechnic with Third Class honours,
even if he has a PhD.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: espbl@warwick.ac.uk (FLASH)
Subject: Re: Anyone studying in Essex,UK?????
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:03:24 GMT

In article <14280@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au> s923257@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Chew Ming Ean) writes:
>waseems@sco.COM (Waseem Siddiqi) writes:
>
>>>Could you please tell me the internet address of the
>>>
>>>Uni. Of East london.
>
>>Is there a Univ. Of East London ? I studied at U of London and never heard
>>of U of East London. Perhaps it's a recent addition. Can someone enlighten
>>me ?
>>From the subject topic, perhaps you mean U of Essex ?
>
>
>>waseem
>
>Waseem,
>Uni. Of East London, is brand new. It seems that they were a Polytechnic
>Of East London (I think) earlier this year.
>
>So if anyone has the internet address.....
>
>could you kindly send it to me please 
>
>Thanks
>Ming

Almost all the Polytechnics in UK have been upgraded to University. The 
Polytechnic of Central London has been renamed as University of West Mis.....
(can't remember the name :-)) and The Polytechnic of Conventry as The
University of Coventry. The University of East London suppose to be a name
given to the upgraded Ploytechnic of East London if I am not wrong. Hope this
help...

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: spleong@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Leong Siew-Peng)
Subject: Re: ***** London Business School ***** Pick this up
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:53:13 GMT

v999s3bz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu ((__)) writes:
: Hi, trying to find address for LBS in Internet and Bitnet
: without successs.  Could someone tell me the full name
: of the school and whether they are on internet or any
: net for that matter.
: 
: good day friends


	I've got the postmaster's email address at London School of Economics.
Maybe you can try mailing him about this.

Email to : SKELTON@VAX.LSE.AC.UK

	Hope he will be able to help you.  Good Luck!!
From: looi@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Wan Looi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: US vs British university degree
Date: 27 Aug 92 07:11:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Aug27.071110.1468
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <1992Aug27.033625.29449@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
>
>For example, in 30 minutes design a microprocessor and explain its functions
>in solving a "particular problem".
>
>I ended up inventing opcodes and explaining about pipelining within that time
>even when pipelining has not been implemented in microprocessors yet.
>
>Remember that this is only a BSc, not PhD.
>

Aiyooo, so smart one ;-).... did you get yourself the Turing Award?
Did Intel make you an offer?

Btw, have you figured out the following anomalies yet? 

"386bsd v0.0 has been installed but exec system call is defective
Linux has been booted but cannot find X11R5 binaries and libraries yet."

Need any help, Encik Ahmad? Of course, you can't EXPECT much from
other Chinese-cu, but you can sure count on me lah! Oh no, I'm also 
Chinese-gu, so I'm not that COMPETENT since I "can't beat my Vietnamese
buddy easily."

Maybe, you should get help from Saddam, but then "he's not a true Muslim"
What shall you do next?


-looi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg (Teng-Kiat Lee)
Subject: Re: SIMMS
Reply-To: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg
Organization: Dept. of EE, National Univ. of Singapore
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:31:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.065113.3954@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, spleong@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Leong Siew-Peng) writes:
|> Hi!  I'm not sure if I'm in the right section, many apologies if I'm
|> invading!!!  What I would like to know is the price of 1Meg of Simms
|> either in Malaysia or Singapore.
|> 
|> 
|> Ta!!

About 45-60 Singapore dollar for 1Meg

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Teng-Kiat Lee                        VLSI CAD & Design Lab
Internet: engp1261@nuscc.nus.sg      Microelectronics Div.
Bitnet:   eleleetk@nusvm.bitnet or   Dept. of Electrical Engineering
          ltk@nuseev.bitnet          National University of Singapore
Voice:    (065)-772-6319             10 Kent Ridge Crescent
          (065)-467-1518             Singapore 0511
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: Indonesia wants SCUD missiles?
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:51:17 GMT

engp1186@nuscc.nus.sg (Won-Soon Lau) writes:
:     I would consider the SCUD as a non-defensive weapon.  The possession of
:     such a weapon by one of the ASEAN nation will definitely spark off
:     stronge reaction from the other nations.  The worst case would be
:     to trigger an arm race in the region.  I don't think this is what
:     the political leaders wanted.

I think it is a good idea for asean to beef up its defences. At the moment
it is sitting duck against Vietnam, China, and Japan even with the resources
that this region has.

:     
:     As a result of the amount of propaganda given to the SCUD,
:     I don't think one needs a nuclear warhead and still can
:     achieve the same psychological impact.  (Given the poor accuracy
:     of the SCUD, I'm not sure that it will actually land in Singapore
:     even though that it is aimed here. (-:)
It may miss orchard road, but not the whole Island.


--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: mhmann@nyx.cs.du.edu (Me Mann)
Subject: Re: Indonesia wants SCUD missiles?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 03:04:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.120853.42597@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> hsiahaan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>
>From all of the discussions, there are just a lot of maybes and ifs...
>this proves that you all just do not know exactly the purpose of Indonesia's
>buying SCUDS. Not necessarily agree with this purchase, but I think the usage
>of the SCUDS, either defensive of offensive, will highly depend on the 
>owner. I (as an Indonesian) dont think we will attack any neighbour contries,
>at least we won't initiate it. What for ? So far this area is peaceful.
>I suspect the purchase of SCUDS is for technological resons, whatever they are
>(again I just speculate !).

You see most people can only guess at the intention including you. You
could only suspect!.  However I agree with your on your point but
technology is a two edged sword.  Military development have spin
off that can benefit the civilians too.  Indonesia definitely have
interest in rocketry and possiblity perhaps in 10 yrs have nuclear
capability. In fact their nuclear reactor for power genreation will be
operational in the very near future. It hasbeen reported before that
it is not too difficult for countries with nuclear reactor experience
to develop nuclear warhead.



Me Han Mann
From: hsiahaan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Indonesia wants SCUD missiles?
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:08:53 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services


From all of the discussions, there are just a lot of maybes and ifs...
this proves that you all just do not know exactly the purpose of Indonesia's
buying SCUDS. Not necessarily agree with this purchase, but I think the usage
of the SCUDS, either defensive of offensive, will highly depend on the 
owner. I (as an Indonesian) dont think we will attack any neighbour contries,
at least we won't initiate it. What for ? So far this area is peaceful.
I suspect the purchase of SCUDS is for technological resons, whatever they are
(again I just speculate !).
And if (a big IF that is) Indonesia wanted to attack Singapore, SCUDS is the
least thing Indonesia needs (if u know what i mean... ;-) )
HSIAHAAN 
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From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: US vs British university degree
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:26:06 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

echong@porpoise.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Chong) writes:
: 
: It is true that the US system is more structured; more guidance, more
: interaction with Professors and peers. This often makes it more
: pressurizing as well. I've known at least 2 UK educated students who
: went to Princeton for graduate studies, and found the pressure unbearable.
: One went back to Cambridge, I think. 

I do not know what sort of pressure it is. Is it the pressure to publish,or
to conform? I felt the pressure here to comform to RISC, neural networks.
In UK at least, it used to be, you can be an essentric because education is
free and optional. You do not have to publish you research result to get
recognition, just publish your thesis judged by 2 other external examiners,
and an academic board/committee.

What happens if your research is something like:

"RISC is wrong",
"neural network is nothing, bit-level parallelism is"
"quantitative measure of Intelligence"

These are very subjective topics but they could be right, at least very hard
to be proven wrong. However a lot of people will not publish or consider these
topics.

I have sent these ideas to usenet with expected results but they do not
convince me that I'm wrong.


--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
From: hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: [Discussion]: Absorbing Immigrants into S'pore
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 92 11:17:47 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <65163@cup.portal.com> <1992Sep3.121549.8405@newsroom.utas.edu.au>

>
>Nearly ALL Singaporeans were at one time(and not too long ago) Malaysians.

>Edmund

I take it when you discuss this massive wave of immigrants to Singapore
you do not include Malaysians who have Malayisan passports, and 
Singaporian equivalent of permanent residence? How about Indonesians
in similar situaltions?


Hassan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean