From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Marvel's untouchable corpses (was re: STARLIN SELLOUT?)
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:14:00 GMT
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Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <BtyM1F.7x7@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.153824.23273@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>>In article <Btx664.4uw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A Lady and her Walrus) writes:
>>>In article <5034@news.duke.edu> eja@soc14.acpub.duke.edu (Eric Akawie) writes:
>>>>What other Marvel stiffs are untouchable?  I'd guess Uncle Ben, and um...
>>>>well, I can't really think of anyone else after the Parker Parents fiasco.  
>>>
>>>How about:
>>>
>>>Norman Osborne
>>>Gwen Stacy (pseudo-clones do NOT count)
>>>Captain Stacy
>>>the Professor who helped Stark make the Iron Man armor (forget his name)
>>>Mar-Vell (I hope, I hope)
>>>The Ancient One
>>
>>While I doubt that any of these people would come back, it is also 
>>important to note that, with the exception of Mar-Vell, none of these
>>people were major characters that couldn't be replaced (i.e., Harry
>>Osborne is essentially the same as Norman now, and Hobgoblin seemed
>>to be replacing him before).  Most important people don't stay dead.
>
>Well, considering the original example given was Uncle Ben, I figured these
>people counted.  After all, the question was who wouldn't Marvel resurrect,
>not what major characters wouldn't they resurrect.  I also disagree that
>Harry is the same as Norman, but I won't get into that now.

Hmmm.... I thought the original example was Bucky, who was definitely a
major character (albeit in the pre-Marvel days, and later in the Invaders)
There tends to be a lesser tendency to bring back the more minor characters,
so keeping them dead isn't as big as keeping a major character (such as
Bucky or Mar-Vell) dead.  Of course, with the Parkers fiasco, I suppose
no minor characters are safe (one appearance, in a flashback, probably
puts them firmly in the "minor" category.)

Would saying that they're ATTEMPTING to make Harry similar to Norman
be more appropriate?  True, Harry isn't truly replacing Norman, but they
are trying to make him into essentially the same thing (although not an
exact copy).

>>>There are probably others.  At one time I would've said the Swordsman and
>>>Jean Grey, but now...
>>
>>The Swordsman is a replacement, not the original (I think).
>
>They haven't really said one way or the other to my knowledge.  I know he thinks
>he's the original, whatever else he is.  

As someone else said, he appears to be the real Swordsman's counterpart from
another dimension.  It's in the recent Avengers issue, if you think you
have the tolerance to sit through it.

>>Of course, no one would ever be tacky enough to try to resurrect or
>>replace the mighty Turner D. Century.  Trying that would be like trying
>>to replace the Ringer!  (They did?)  Well, how about Firebrand (What?)
>>Uh-oh, look's like Turner II is on his way....
>
>Great.  Another lame-o cheese-o-matic villain.  He'll probably wind up 
>getting the Infinity Gauntlet. :)

Turner D. Century with the Infinity Gauntlet?  I don't even want to think
about how BAD that would be.  BTW, does anyone have any idea who came
up with the esteemed Mr. Century?  Or, more importantly, why?  Does
anyone really care?   Didn't think so.
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