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From: atmadja@cs.purdue.EDU (Hery Atmadja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OSU-Wisconsin and such
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:50:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

In article <1992Oct7.130022.1@pa621a.inland.com> copus@pa621a.inland.com writes:
>In article <1appprINNiet@uwm.edu>, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct5.153122.9223@cbnews.cb.att.com> ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason) writes:
>>> 
>>>Ohio State's problem is pretty simple from my perspective ...
>>>they need to get healthy.
>>    
>>    Yeah, and they need to recruit some big, strong Wisconsin boys so their
>>    offensive and defensive lines don't get pushed around. ;)
>> 
>>    --salty
>> 
>     Salty Woof Post #2.  Your doomed this weekend in Iowa City, the
>     "Woof Gods" have all the ammo they need now.
>
>     Len 

Yeah right! Who cares anyway! I heard that the only weapons they have
are hot air balloons.

HHA
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From: tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rice-Texas    (was: Virginia Football)
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:35:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rice University


In article <1992Oct1.170450.22402@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes...
>In article <1992Oct1.160921.21851@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>>>p.p.s. Rice is atually a very talented team.
> 
>yes, i was very impressed by their ability to score 12 whole points against
>Duke's monster defense. in fact, duke's a.d. said after that game that duke
>football fans (are there any? the duke-uva game didnt even get a full story
>in the raliegh news and observer last sat.) should not be surprised if
>this was dukes only win for the season....
> 
Of course, the fact that the game was played in knee-deep mud had NOTHING
to do with the fact that two teams with good offenses and suspect defenses
scored a total of 29 points...
And, of course, Rice has shown itself to be a choker team, losing 3
games by a touchdown or less...  *sigh*

Not that Rice is even close to talented enough to compete with A&M, of course...

-- 
Tom Scudder                                   tomscud@ruf.rice.edu
"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, a half pack of
cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it."
-John Stuart Mill
From: mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Penn State QB situation 
Date: 7 Oct 92 07:22:50 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct5.220743.11554@ultra.com>, rajiv@ultra.com (Rajiv Dhingra) writes:
> Can someone please update the quarter-back situation at Penn State.
> What happened to Kerry Collins, the pre-season # 1 QB.  The last I
> heard of him was that he would be back from a finger injury in game
> 4, but his name doesn't show up in any of the stats.
> 
> Thanx,
> 
> Rajiv
> 
> 
-- 
Kerry threw briefly in practice two weeks ago. He threw more last week with
no swelling and should get some work in this week. However with the big game,
they may give John extra snaps and place Kerry on the back burner. Incedently,
John Sacca threw for 303 yards last week against Maryland. Something his
brother Tony never did in his four years as a starter. 

                                                              Mike Kelley
                                                              HRB Systems
                                                              St. College, Pa.

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From: zjsg12@hou.amoco.com (Jeffry S. Gracey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:15:46 GMT
Reply-To: zjsg12@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco


>But seriously, when will the aggies stop crapping about how bad the
>Texas team is ?

   Better than crapping ON the texas team, which is likely to happen	
   Thanksgiving Day.

>Also, considering that UT is your only remaining opponent with a chance
>to be in the top 25, isn't it in your ineterest to say nice things about
>UT ?  I guess I shouldnt expect such wisdom from those who never sip tea !

   Yes, and it's probably in our INTEREST, too. (See - Aggies can read).
   As one of many wise Aggies, I'd like to kick the cattle dung out of an 
   8-2 Longhorn team.

>pick UT to win every game till thanksgiving

   Sorry T-sips, don't see it happening.Look for a Baylor upset Nov.21 when	
   your team is looking ahead to their seven-of-every-eight-years ass-kicking.


As always - Gig 'Em Aggies,

     Jeff Gracey '91	
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From: rhouston@glacier.sim.es.com (Richard Houstan)
Subject: Re: Colorado pounds Mizzou 6-0
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:05:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.135410.10146@spdc.ti.com> dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik) writes:

   Buffaloes, ease up!  You didn't *have* to run it up on Mizzou like that
   did you?  I mean, like, did you really need to kick that second field 
   goal?  6-zip is a bit much isn't it?  BTW - how can you get so many
   yards and not get a TD?  I watched the whole game and can't figure it
   out.  Pretty tough D, though.


Did Detmer Play?

				Richard
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: SWC Review for 10/3
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:34:22 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
>
>Sorry we're a little late again this week, but Goober had a baby (congrats!)
>and Jay had a pain in the ass week. So all you get is this skimpy, late
>review. At least the preview is good, and is coming up next...

[review deleted...]

Well, congradulations Goober.  You must be a proud papa.  Give our 
collective best to your wife.  Got any pictures to share?

Cliff (There's an Aggie joke running around somewhere in this post...)
      Slaughterbeck

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From: oconnor@software.org (Jim O'Connor)
Subject: Re: NOT! (was Re: Virginia WINS)
Originator: oconnor@software.software.org
Organization: Software Productivity Consortium, Herndon, Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:25:31 GMT


In article <Bvxv6M.8xv@rice.edu>, rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) writes:
> 
> go jackets!   (and why the heck did Maryland score 26 points?)
> -- 

I feel the same way. Maryland should have scored a lot more! What was it, 2 or 3 
interceptions inside of the Tech 30? Forth down and 1 on the Tech 8 and Maryland's 
second string QB throws one in the dirt with a receiver STANDING in the end zone with 
no one within 10 yards of him. And then there was Tech's hail mary pass with 4 seconds 
left in the first half that was tipped by two Maryland players, bobbled out of
bounds by a Tech receiver, ruled incomplete, and then reversed by our quality ACC
officials. And I don't even want to think about what could have happend if Maryland 
hadn't blow its timeouts. The Terps, down by two points, able to move the ball on 
Tech all day, ran out of time at the 50 :-(. Tech was lucky to get out of Maryland 
with a win!

One of these days MARYLAND is going to learn how to WIN!

Go Terps!

James P. O'Connor
Software Productivity Consortium
2214 Rock Hill Road
Herndon, VA 22070
(703) 742-7134
oconnor@software.org

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From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: TEXAS vs. ou
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:57:36 GMT

In article <2AD34DE0.25971@news.service.uci.edu> jaykay@orion.oac.uci.edu (R. Jayakrishnan) writes:
>  Q:  What happens when an aggie leaves A&M and joins OU ?
>  A:  He brings up the average IQ of both Texas and Oklahoma !
>
>  GO HORNS !
>  Jay  (the original one !)
>  R. Jayakrishnan.  Univ of California, Irvine.

RayJay, I'm touched.  I didn't know you cared so much. sniff, sniff.

- goober (sniff, sniff) smith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tja2f@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Timothy J. Allison)
Subject: Re: help on past National champs
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:32:07 GMT

In article <bjm1.719048043@Ra.MsState.Edu> bjm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Bobbie J. Mann) writes:
>Can someone help me come up with the National Champs (and the years)
>since about 1980.  I can name several teams, but I can't seem to remember
>years to go with them.  I figured there was someone out there who probably
>knew...:)
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Roland
>
>Email reply is fine, posting is not necessary (but may be interesting)
>


Actually I'd like to extend this and ask if people could direct me to the 
final polls (not just who the Nat'l Champ was) for the past 20 years or
so.  Maybe by chance someone has this stuff compiled already in byte-space??

Obviously the information could be gleaned by going to old newpapers from
each year but I'm hoping some source, commercial or otherwise, has compiled 
such info.

Certainly appreciate any help you can offer.  As an added incentive I might
add that I'm an alum of Miami who's trying to become enlightened to the rest
of the college football realm.  [Having never been present at a game where
your team loses tends to bias your sense of reality.  Now I'm at Virginia - 
a school where they can't even hold a 28 - 0 lead.  How's that for reality? ]

Again, thanks.
Email responses are certainly welcome.  I'll post a comprehensive compilation
if anyone so desires.

Tim

tja2f@virginia.edu
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:53:47 EDT
From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: All these Penn State Predictions

In article <1992Oct6.224235.13737@walter.bellcore.com>,
lein@garage.bae.bellcore.com (John Leinaweaver) says:

>It's interesting to see that so many people have so much knowledge
>about Penn State and where they should be ranked when they:

>    a) have not seen them play a game
>    b) can not name 3 players on the Nittany Lion team
>    c) couldn't even describe the type of offence they are running
>       this year or how many pass att/game they are averaging.

Speak for yourself.

------------
Kurt Ludwick
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Big 10 Little 9 predictions
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Distribution: na
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:25:01 CDT

In article <1992Oct9.205839.2864@cbnewse.cb.att.com> jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher) writes:
>Well all you Badger nuts who think Wis. is so terrific are 
>just full of Grade A cow juice. The Big 10 is piss poor this
>year and OSU was way overrated. Whipping overrated Syracuse 
>(who struggled against "mighty" Louisville last week) helped
>them achieve this rating.

Gee, I haven't seen one Wisconsin fan pick the Badgers to win this weekend.
All the people picking the Badgers are not from here.  Winning against Iowa
there, when they are itching for a victory, will be extremely tough.

>Don't forget how Wis "blew out" a very weak Northern Illinois
>team in Madison. (According to the Trib, NIU won they game
>because UW did not make the 2 pt conversion.) Northern 
>Illinois was whipped in DeKalb last week by a much quicker
>1-AA team (Middle Tennessee).

Agreed.

>I'll be surprised if UW beats Iowa - I expect them to lose
>two or three conference games.

Agreed again.

>I'd say Michigan deserves about a no 12 or 14 rating. No 
>other Big 10 school deserves to be in the top 25.

I'd put Michigan a little higher than that, but you probably are correct
here too.

>If Penn St was competing this year, they'd go undefeated
>in league play.

Yes, unless they played at Michigan and were caught playing a bit poorly.

>Washington will simply kick Michigan's ass in the Rose Bowl -
>it won't even be interesting.

I don't know about that.  Washington didn't kick Wisconsin's ass, and
you've just given a good argument for why Wisconsin isn't all that good.

>Penn St will beat Miami this week.

Hard to say.  I think Miami will win, myself.  Too many people are picking
Penn State, and that's when Miami seems to do its best.

>When's basketball season start?

Beginning of December.  Why should you care?
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Subject: Re: CU's Kordell Stewart out for 1 week
Keywords: Koy Detmer, Kordell Stewart
Organization: Buffalo Stampede
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:54:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.184031.1192@den.mmc.com> kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
>In article <1992Oct11.010727.3433@ncar.ucar.edu> ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert) writes:
>>From a news release provided today at 5pm MDT from the CU athletic office.
>>
>>Kordell Stewart fractured his left wrist in thursday nights game against MU.
>>He will be side lined for four weeks and will miss the Oklahoma, Kansas St 
>>Nebraska and Oklahoma State games.
>
>From the 10/11 Denver Post:
>
>The X-rays taken on Friday revealed a fracture of the navicular bone (in
>his non-throwing hand).  The injury occurred when Stewart was hit in the
>third quarter after completing a pass to WR Michael Westbrook; Stewart
>thought he had sprained his thumb, and went on to complete 6 of his
>final 12 passes for 103 yards and 2 INTs.
>
>Kordell will be fitted with a cast that will prevent him from receiving
>center snaps, and he could return _at_the_earliest_ in 4 to 6 weeks.
>(Before badly spraining his foot against Baylor this year, he had never
>been injured playing football at any level.)

Well, never mind all that.  Wearing his new cast and some extra padding
on his left hand, Stewart took every exchange from the snapping
mechanism in yesterday's practice and fumbled just one.  He's apparently
in some pain and can't hold the ball in his left hand, but was excited
because pressure on his hand was not transmittted to his thumb; he even
shed the orange vest worn by injured players a half hour into the
practice.  Kordell could play on Saturday if necessary, and it seems
likely he'll return as the starter either vs. OK State or at Nebraska
(!).

>>This is a most unfortunate spot to lose
>>one of the nations top passers. True freshman Koy Detmer will start agains 
>>OU on Oct 17ths nationally televised game. Koy Detmer has thrown 5 TDs in 
>>two halfs of football.
>
>McCartney hasn't confirmed that Detmer will start, but it's a near
>certainty; Duke Tobin would then be the backup, with Vance Joseph, who
>is now recovering from a sore shoulder and had planned to redshirt,
>behind him.  Tobin and Detmer were 3rd and 4th string through most of
>August, until Joseph hurt his shoulder and Stewart got the starting job
>by default.

McCartney announced yesterday that Detmer will start, but also said that
Stewart will back him up as the second-string QB.
-- 
Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com
Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
116 Inverness Dr. East
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From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:09:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <1992Oct9.164747.9974@b11.b11.ingr.com>, jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick) writes:
> In article <1992Oct8.200252.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
> |> 
> |> And don't give Jim a hard time, he's probably sweating right now about that
> |> bunch of psychos from Tulane!  Ooooh, the Green Wave.  Maybe we can schedule
> |> them next year after the Samford game!!
> 
>   No doubt Tulane will be ready to play. But remember this; if Bama is 
> fortunate
> enough to get ahead early, look for the 1st string to be removed!  Like vs 
> South
> Carolina, the first string was taken out in the 2nd quarter.  Dye had White
> throwing against Samford in the 3rd quarter after the game was far out of 
> hand.

I know.  In my post of the Auburn-Samford game to rsfc, I complained about
White being left in that long!

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu
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Subject: Re: Bama vs Tenn TV
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:53:48 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

ABC televises starting at 3:30.  The other two games are Big-10 and
PAC-10 matchups, so you have a decent chance to get it in Texas.

From what was said during the ABC games this past Saturday, I got
the impression that Bama-Tenn will be the big game for that time slot.

I sure as hell hope so, at least.



Jim Thomas
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Subject: Re: schedules
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:04:00 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Keywords: starting a pool
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


Let me know if you don't have them.  I've got them broken out
by week.
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From: skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Schmidt Computer Rankings through 11-Oct-92
Date: 15 Oct 92 03:27:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: cwis.skipb.719119660
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt) writes:


>I welcome comments and suggestions.

>Kevin

>Rank Team                      Points  Record Strength  Last Week    Change
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>1    Washington                97.572   5-0-0  83.608  (  1,  97.695)  +0
>2    Nebraska                  93.915   4-1-0  79.610  (  3,  93.034)  +1

I see nothing wrong with your algorithm. :-)
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My Disclaimer: Any opinion I may have stated was purely unintentional!
From: dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:50:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: utdallas.1992Oct15.215029.16036
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas

In article <1992Oct15.210841.16409@u.washington.edu> crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins) writes:
>>
>> I love college football (especially in Texas) !!!
>
>Oh really?
>
>Cliff (I didn't know there was college or football in Texas) Slaughterbeck
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Of course there's football in Texas!  Great High School football.  But all
the smart ones come up to Oklahoma to play their college ball.  Guess there
haven't been enough smart ones lately to beat the steers.  That'll change.

>Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 

Bill Dostalik

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From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 16:31:35 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: custard.think.com

In article <1b1u31INNema@agate.berkeley.edu>, chrisp@porsche.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Chris Puscasiu) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct8.175842.9648@leland.Stanford.EDU> tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay) writes:
|> >>In article <1992Oct7.185703.21882@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
|> >>>>What are the biggest, oldest, most intense rivalrys in the country and are
|> >                ^^^^^^^
|> >>>>they as intense to both teams?
|> >
|> >Why, that would have to be the BIG GAME, of course. Besides its
|> >totally wacky finishes, and constant sellouts, the team winning the
|> 
|> [more stufurd blah deleted]
|> 
|> 
|> As much as I hate to agree with someone from that junior u. I don't think
|> there was any question about the biggest rivalry.  It is not only the BIG
|> GAME, but an around-the-year attitude.  Besides football this attitude is
|> part of evey sport and just a way of life.
|> 
|> I for one have tossed out all my cloth that have more than 50% red color 
|> on them ...
|> 
|> Besides sports though this rivalry has even some more implications, namely
|> great academic competion on things like who has more nobel laureates etc.
|

Sorry Guys, Harvard-Yale is known as simply THE GAME. And as far as 
academics, well....

-Tom

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From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:30:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.202825.200@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr) writes:
>
>	Virginia and VPI, however, is a good example of a one-sided rivalry. 
>UVa is always VPI's biggest game, but Cavalier hatred has been reserved
>for the less than masculine baby-blue of UNC, accompanied by that
>distinctive Tar Heel stench.  Virginia has no real football rivalries

John, let me say first that I agree with you 100 percent. But, you
may have just re-ignited one of last year's flame wars. :-)

I believe UNC-UVa is something like the 6th longest running series in
Divison I-A with 96 games, with Carolina still holding an advantage.


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