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From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: BatB question
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:45:15 GMT
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Peter Joseph Rioux (riouxp@rs6425.ecs.rpi.edu) wrote:
: so, can somebody tell me.. has anybody read the 1st edition of the b+b
: comic book... in there, it says that time flows differently when you are 
: under a magic spell...


: squid
: (having fun under the sea...:)

Meaning it stops for some people and goes for others?  

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Millions of lemmings can't be wrong -- throw yourself off a cliff
Remember to always be a visionary, or someone will do it for you and beat you.

The best Disney girl?  Definitely Belle (BatB)

I hate hicks and farmer boys. I hate everything they stand for, especially the
part about putting food on my table. I can do without the food. I wish all
farmers would just die. I can live off of lawn clippings.  -- Dave Tiberio
From: kiuchi@sumax.seattleu.edu (Tuff Hedelman fan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Mickey's Nutcracker
Date: 4 Jan 93 02:07:35 GMT
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Mickey's Nutcracker? I must have my head in the clouds because I haven't heard
of this. Can anyone tell me more about it, pppllleaasse?

kevin
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.animation
From: r_miller@oz.plymouth.edu (Becky ...)
Subject: Re: Disney Villains (Was: Aladdin: Oh Baby!)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 19:58:08 GMT




I have also seen Prince John and the Sheriff of Nottingham.
:-)
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From: CHRIS.CYR@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Chris Cyr")
Subject: Re:B&tb continuity errors
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:49:43 GMT

Regarding the suggested 'passage of time continuity error', I don't know if
anyone else has said this, but I really don't see an error.  True, the picture
may be in error.  If it truly shows the prince at age 21 or so, then there is
an error.  If the spell was placed on the castle when he was 11, then there is
no error IMHO.

Others seem to have a problem with Chip and the other inhabitants of the
castle.  But, they were all transformed into inanimate objects (ie plates,
dishes, etc) which do not 'age' in the sense of growing old.  They don't grow!
Yet, the prince was made a beast - which does grow old, its heart and body
become frail like you or I or a dog or a tourtise.  It seems that the curse
was that the prince would lose those years that he could not get someone to
love him while the inhabitants would not.  When the curse is broken, the
inhabitants transform back to humans not having aged.  The prince on the other
hand - has aged - never to regain the years he spent as the beast.

If the spell is never broken, well - all bets are off - it seems that the
inhabitants get to live forever as flatware while the beast would eventually
die of old age.  The introduction talks of being a beast 'for all time'.
Well, 'for all time' can be up to interpretation.  For eternity - or for all
the time that the beast remains alive.  Yeah, this gets a little weak - but we
will never know since the spell is broken and clearly the inhabitants have
not aged (as proven by Chip) and the beast has!!

Chris
From: p.e.morris@larc.nasa.gov (Philip Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: TLM & RH tapes for sale
Date: 12 Jan 1993 18:18:49 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
Distribution: world
Reply-To: p.e.morris@larc.nasa.gov (Philip Morris)
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Sorry but both tapes were spoken for 3 minutes after I posted the the 
original message.  Thanks for your interest, but I don't have but one copy of 
each tape.  My mail box is overflowing. and its only been a couple of hours.  
If anyone else out there has copies they are willing to sell, this is 
definately the place to do it.
 -=Philip=-

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From: dba30@ccc.amdahl.com (David Allison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin wishes
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:54:05 GMT
Reply-To: dba30@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (David Allison)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1993Jan12.184605.10130@zeus.ieee.org> jcichock@ep.ieee.org writes:
>Sorry for all the posts today, but I had some extra time at work and ideas are just
>popping in my head.
>
>On his third wish, why doesn't Aladdin wish for more wishes? Is this something only
>Jafar would wish for and not someone as likable as Aladdin? Did the Genie go over
>this during the rules for making wishes? Just a thought.
>
>Jeff

When Aladdin first met the Genie he was told "and ixnay on the wishing for
more wishes"

Dave
From: dsm@phantom.gatech.edu (Danny McGurl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Voices in Aladdin
Date: 11 Jan 1993 21:05:43 -0500
Organization: Office of Information Technoloy, Georgia Tech
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In article f012@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu writes:

>I was wondering, who is Bruce Adler, and why did HE sing 'Arabian Nights'
>instead of Robin Williams?  RW sang on the Genie's other two songs, but not
>that one...which I don't understand...is there some story here?  Did RW want
>too much money for 3 songs so they gave the 'least important' one away?

Well, there is a real question as to whether or not the merchant is the
genie and what possible supporting evidence of it got cut out (the voice 
being the same is pretty thin IMHO).  I suspect that Disney decided to be
subtle in the reuse of the voice...

Is the merchant the genie?  Who knows what lurks on the cutting room floor :)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: BATB: Inconsistencies? (Was Re: Just Saw Alladin)
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:08:20 GMT
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Mike Stailey (stailey@bugs.comm.mot.com) wrote:
: (Ben Magid) writes:

: *>Hmmm.  I thought it looked similar to the Prince after the Transformation.
: *>Not exact, maybe, but it didn't look 11.  Not to rehash the thread, but
: *>that would also mean that Chip was more than 10 year old, which he didn't
: *>look to be.  I don't think there is any full explanation....perhaps Disney
: *>just didn't realise the inconsistency.

: *Maybe chip was born after the enchantment. Who knows maybe magic spells 
: *can be inherited. I don't know who the father would be, but it was just an
: *idea.

:  I just figured that the staff did not age during the transformation,
:  but I guess that would contradict the enchantment itself.
Not if it was actually just two separate enchantments...

:  --
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:  stailey@comm.mot.com     



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Remember to always be a visionary, or someone will do it for you and beat you.

The best Disney girl?  Definitely Belle (BatB)

I hate hicks and farmer boys. I hate everything they stand for, especially the
part about putting food on my table. I can do without the food. I wish all
farmers would just die. I can live off of lawn clippings.  -- Dave Tiberio
From: p.e.morris@larc.nasa.gov (Philip Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: What is it with the Hooters?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 14:13:12 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
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As an artists I can tell you that it is much easier to draw big breasts.  
Small breasts generally look deformed.  Besides, if you had to draw the same 
charcter umpteen-thousand times, what would you do.
-=Philip=-

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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Jasmine, The Vamp (was: Jafar.... hmmmm)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:52:01 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1993Jan6.232850.69223@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> f012@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu writes:
>I sorta agree with you on Jasmine, by the way, but only if she gets a nose
>job...I like her attitude in a lot of ways, actually...esp. when she does that
>vamp routine both on Al on the balcony and later on Jafar when she's in the
>Princess Lea outfit... :)
>
This is why I think I like Jasmine best of all.  She's not "Snow White", as
it were, but she still has enough hint of innocence to really make you wonder
just how much of that is naiviete and how much is vamp.


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From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: walt disney's present temperature
Date: 4 Jan 93 06:59:55 GMT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

In article <1992Dec26.063215.27074@samba.oit.unc.edu> Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.e
du (Ben Magid) writes:
>	Why doesn't someone check the public health records for Los Angeles
>County (if that's where he died)?. The information must be there.
Better yet, check this group's FAQ!  It's in there!  "Uh-huh!!"

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From: martin@spider.co.uk (Martin Ritchie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: WDW (Florida) Advice Please
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:21:41 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

I will be visiting WDW etc with my wife and two kids for the first time for
a week in April.  Can anyone advise me on

    what not to miss
    what to miss
    what are the best passes to buy
    should I buy passes in UK or at WDW

Any other useful advice would be appreciated.
From: guthrie@nb.rockwell.com (Karen Guthrie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin wishes
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:56:26 GMT
Organization: Rockwell International


In article <1iv7m8INNkr2@shelley.u.washington.edu>, thom@cac.washington.edu (Thom Roholt) writes:
> In article <1993Jan12.184605.10130@zeus.ieee.org> jcichock@ep.ieee.org writes:
> >On his third wish, why doesn't Aladdin wish for more wishes? Is this something only
> >Jafar would wish for and not someone as likable as Aladdin? Did the Genie go over
> >this during the rules for making wishes? Just a thought.
> >
> >Jeff
> 
> Yes, the Genie placed three restrictions on wishes:
> 
> 1.  No extra wishes.  You only get 3.
> 2.  The Genie cannot bring people back to life.  They return like a Pet
>     Sematary type (I think).
> 3.  The Genie cannot make someone fall in love with the wisher.
> 
> Thom
> 

Jafar did not wish for more wishes he wished to be a powerful sorcerer
so that he would have magic of his own.  His wishes were to
1.  Be Sultan
2.  Be the most powerful sorcerer in the world
3.  Be a genie

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: New Disney Animated Movies
From: cvalj001@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 4 Jan 93 11:20:11 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
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  I have a brother who works as a computer animator for Disney and he told me
about the upcoming Disney animated features, so here's a list.

The Lion King
Pocohantas
Fantasia II
A new Roger Rabbit short
                                                           
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From: amberle@staff.tc.umn.edu (Amberle S Ferrian)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Just Saw Aladdin...
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:17:21 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <92365.120747LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> Laura Kittleson <LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:
>RE: Disney women looking alike....
>
>I think that for both Ariel and Belle, the creators used the same
>model, Sheri Stoner (I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere in
>one of those expensive Disney animation books that I was hoping
>someone would give me for Christmas....).  Don't know if she was
>the model who acted/posed for Jasmine.  

Robina Ritchie was the live-action reference model for Jasmine.  Although if
you ask me, Stoner may as well have done it--IMHO Jasmine is more or less a
photocopy of Belle, personality-wise and physically.
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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: Observations regarding TLM
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:58:01 GMT

In <1993Jan9.231145.3739@nic.csu.net> jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.012910.23048@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monas
>h.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:

>>3.  Just how many feathers does Scuttle lose in the entire film?  And
>>howcome he can still fly even minus these feathers?  Or is this somthing
>>like the bumblebee which isn't supposed to be able to fly either?
>What bumblebee?
Any one.

>>6.  What *is* it that Grimsby says to Eric just before Eric says "A girl
>>rescued me"?
>"Oh, Eric I do think you delight in these strains on my blood pressure."
>Or something very much like that.
Sounds good.

>>16. Why does everyone persist in this idea that mermaids are *fish?*
>>There is quite a lot of evidence to suggest that they are mammals:
>There is quite a lot of evidence to suggest they WERE fiction.
Oh come *on*.  Look at what happened to Amberle for saying such
dangerous things like that (Speaking of "SPLASH", see below.)

>>That'll do for the moment.  Questions about mermaid anatomy that extend
>>to the presence or location of other major body parts that are not
>>covered under a "G" rating will cheerfully be ignored.
>Lovely disclaimer!  According to Splash, mermaid reproduction is possible.
Funny, they never really youched on that much in the film, now, did
they? :)

>>Tim Pickett
>MerJen
Oh, no.  Not the "I am Ariel" thread again.  Please!

Tim.
From: dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Jasmine Rules!
Keywords: Babe Babe Babe Babe, hooooo Baby!
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:03:16 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In <Thor.17@biophysics.uwaterloo.ca> Thor@biophysics.uwaterloo.ca (God of Thunder) writes:

>Hi Y'All.

>Saw Aladdin twice, and boy was it great!  Everything!  The musical score was
>funny and very entertaining.  Needless to say Robin Williams was superb (did 
>anyone get all his jokes?).  Abu was simply hiliarious -- reminded me of 
>someone when he chomped away on the half loaf of bread :).  But!... Jasmine
>was a Babe!!!!  Hoooo Baby!!  I only wish the woman I marry looks like 
>her! :(P *pant* *pant* *pant*  Boy what a Babe!  Oh yeah, Al was cool too.

>Was that magic carpet ride in the cave amazing or what?  Reminded me of the
>scene in Star Wars when Han Solo's ship was flying through the Death Star
>just before it blew up (or was that an X-Wing?) ... who cares it was Too
>Cool!

>Well, back to dreaming about Jasmine, er.. should I say Jas-MINE-MINE-MINE :)

>Thor, the Biophysicist.

Jasmin's got to lose that hair!  I saw a live Jasmin actress at the
El Capitan theater Hollywood as part of the pre-show, and the hair was
even worse than in the movie.   :^)


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From: nederost@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Tom Nederost(Nedorost))
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:43:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Good Passport Rates
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney

I think your best deal would be to take the 4 day pass from your Company for
$109.  That doesn't include Pleasure Island, Typhoon Lagoon, River Country,
or Discover Island.  But realistically, the weather this time of year will
probably not be quite warm enough to use Typhoon Lagoon or River Country and
Discover Island isn't a "must see" attraction anyway.

While Pleasure Island is a great time and you'll probably want to visit the
place several nights during your visit, you can buy a Magic Kingdom Club
Annual Pass to Pleasure Island for $33.  Since the nightly cover charge at
Pleasure Island is $12.95 + tax, this Annual Pass will pay for itself during
one vacation (if you spend three or more nights at the Island).

Have a great trip!

Tom

Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: Re: Just Saw Alladin...
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:48:30 GMT

In <1993Jan10.192249.28374@samba.oit.unc.edu> Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid) writes:

>Maybe chip was born after the enchantment. Who knows maybe magic spells 
>can be inherited. I don't know who the father would be, but it was just an
>idea.

Now we all know what has to happen first before you get babies, and I'm
sure that Teaset Sapiens is no exception.  My question is: *How*?

What a disgusting thought - that'll teach me to read these posts . . .

Tim Pickett
From: tad@Ingres.COM (Tom Drynda)
Subject: Goofy Watch
Followup-To: rec.arts.disney
Keywords: goofy watch
Reply-To: tad@Ingres.COM (Tom Drynda)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:09:56 GMT


Hi,

	My wife bought me a Goofy watch for Christmas and unfortunately
it's not working too well. The battery appears to be low. The local
Disney Stores have graciously agreed to pay for the replacement of the
batter(y/ies) if we get them replaced at an independent jewelers.

	Just out of curiosity, has anyone else experienced problems 
with this watch ? I remember someone posting recently that their watch 
had started running forwards ! (the watch is *supposed* to run backwards).

	Thanks,

		Tom


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From: jlg@fir27.cray.com (Jan Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Major inconsistencies in BatB....
Originator: jlg@fir27
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:19:57 CST


>
>> BTW, Maurice coming back for Belle may figure into it also, as there isn't
>> any way he could have survived a long period of time in that weather.
>
>Here's a thought:  How come Maurice is stuck in a blizzard, while not far away
>(presumably) Belle and Beast are sitting outside _under_the_stars_ without a
>cloud in sight???  (Well, maybe there is, I can't remember).
>
> RICHARD WIFFEN |         get a fly in your mouth.   | it possible...   \\\///

Well, it's probably due to that same little rift in the normal time-space
continuum that makes the Beast's castle get closer and closer to Belle's
village every day...IE, first time it took Maurice a whole day to get there on
Philippe, by the end of the movie the villagers & Gaston got there in about 6
minutes (judging by the length of the song.. :) walking...

You know, as I write this I just thought of something else - the castle
changed directions from the village, didn't it?  1st time Maurice rides off
into the countryside, but last time the mob goes THROUGH the villiage first...
:)

Wow...it really WAS a magic castle.

JD

Yes, but Maurice and Phillipe became lost.  Who knows how long they were
lost before they found their way to the fork in the road.   And who knows
how long it took the villagers to reach the castle?  Remember that it was
night (Which in the winter time darkness can last for over 12 hrs).  Plus
when the beast is finally transformed into a prince again and the 
showers of light appear, the sky clears to a beautiful sunny day.  
That would appear to be a little bit more than 6 minutes.

Jan