From: EE102@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK (Gao Mr ZhiJie)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: Conference, Sino-Tibetan Relations: Prospects for the future
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:24:20 GMT
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 <BvCIoH.39A@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> <92275.074449EE102@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Organization: University of Liverpool

>In article:<92275.074449EE102@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> ZJ/G writes:
>>In article: < 29 Sep 92 15:21:52 GMT > <BvCIoH.39A@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca>
richter@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (C. Richter) writes:
>>I take it then that you agree that China has "behaved like a bully" by
> .......
> .......                          ( Tibetans also
> have high reputation of royalty and honesty.
                          *******
Here 'royalty' should be loyalty in above sentences of my previous post.
Sorry for the mistakes. The previous post ( then unfinished but posted
to the net accidentally ) is continued as below.

>irrelevant stuff deleted...
>>                               Somehow, I doubt very much that the
>>Chinese leadership would ever consider giving so-called "Autonomous
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>>regions" like Tibet and Xinjiang a chance to opt out of the Chinese
>>union through a democratic vote.

 You seemed to be too permissive about the realisation of Tibet
 Independence ( as your pointer was directed to Chinese rather than the
 non-democratic CCP leadership ).  IMHO though,
 since China is changing rapidly towards modernisation not only
 economically but also politically, you may stand a chance to see
 a 'democratic vote' on TI matter in your life time.

 We all know that a vote means nothing without freedom and equality
 of expressing political opinions for everybody. So on your way
 to that date, be prepared to answer the questions that are bound to
 be raised by Chinese ( the majority of them are Tibetans )
 who are currently living in Xizang:
 * Would the Dalai Lama & Co want to establish a serfdom again?
   I note that to date the Dalai Lama still fails to denounce
   the slavery system He and His companions represented and did not
   offer any apologies to the Chinese in Tibet for the systematical human
   rights violations conducted by a group of high class Tibetan
   ( privileged layer ) headed by the Dalai Lama when they were in Tibet?
   ( If you have got any references, please let the netters know. )
 * Would the Dalai Lama & Co still keep utilising the religion and faith
   of some Tibetans, upon whom His Holiness can impose His will
   in the way He likes,  in order to manipulate the public opinions?

   You know very well that the doggy part of the TI business is that
   it relies too much on His Holiness position as the paramount spiritual
   leader of the Tibetan lamaists ( Nobody can strip Him from that
   position as long as He lives,  not to mention democracy here ).

 As a Canadian living in a democratic society all you life, you won't
 have any trouble to understand that using religious people's faith
 to achieve political gains in nominally democratic processes, such as
 voting etc, is totally unacceptable. Well, I don't know whether or not
 you are also a supporter of Muslim Fundamentalists Movement.
 So I may be wrong here.

>:w
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>Conrad Richter                     richter@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
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