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From: a-kevinp@microsoft.com (Kevin Purcell)
Subject: Re: Woz in apple ad?
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:47:57 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

It is fanshionable to denigrate Steve Jobs, as he wasn't either a software
or hardware hacker. But he was essential to Apple in for sveral things
that he did.

He was the driving force behind building more machines (Woz thought it
was cool to take the Apple I down to the Homebrew Computer Club and show
off the neat hacks).

The most revealing story was when the decided to form Apple, the company.
They already had the design for an "insanely great" machine but
Woz was very hesitant to sell his VW van and a HP calculator to generate
some of the money. He even said no to Mike Markula, but Jobs persuaded him
to change his mind the next day. Without the Woz, they may not have
succeded.

And one shouldn't forget that Jobs was the driving force behind the Mac
which is promoted against a lot of internal opposition (including that
of the Woz). 

He may have an uppleasant personality, but if he wasn't there I doubt Apple 
have happened. 

Woz was a good engineer, he generated some neat hacks (software as well as
hardware).This God-like reverence was the reason he went back to school
under an alias.


Finally, although there is an element of luck invloved, keeping a business
together during explosive growth is no mean feat. I used to think Bill Gates
just got lucky, but after seeing MS from the inside I no longer beleive that.

In a parallel universive Woz has a 9 to 5 job with HP and Steve Job's is
a used car salesman ...

My references:

1. Fire in the Valley, Micheal Swain
2. West of Eden, author?
3. Hackers, Steven Levy
4. Steve Job's biography (title of which escapes me)

Kevin Purcell
a-kevinp@microsoft.com
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From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: (Q) Accelerating a Mac IIcx note CX
Keywords: CX
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:36:27 GMT

Thanks in advance for any help friends...

What accelerators are recommended by experienced users for upgrading
a Mac IIcx. Main concern is increasing speed. But may consider 040
products if the price is coming down...

Thanks. Dale
parkyn@sfu.ca
From: dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Talking to the computer (was: Re: PDA's are flop)
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:05:48 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College

In article <antkasx.718635910@gsusgi1.gsu.edu> antkasx@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Ken A.  
Sturrock) writes:
|peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce) writes:
|>Personally, speech input seems to make more sense to me for this type
|>of thing (PDAs) than for desktop computing......
|
|"Mommy what's that guy talking to that box for?"
|
|Actually, I guess it's no worse than people who talk to tape recorders ;).
|
|						-ks 
Anyone remember Scotty in _Star_Trek_IV_? "Hello computer" may not be so far  
away. 
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From: Bruce.Giuriceo@p4.f204.n2603.z1.ieee.org (Bruce Giuriceo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Woz in apple ad?
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:42:48 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2603/204.4 - Not Even Odd, Forest Hills NY

Regarding "Re: Woz in apple ad?", 
  > If you really don't know, Steve Wozniak, along with Steve Jobs were the
  > two guys who originally made the first Apple computers in their garage(I
  > think it was Woz's garage but I'm not sure...)- and then after the
  > company started to get bigger they were put out to pasture, still
  > retaining an extremely sizable amount of Apple stock.  One of those
  > over-night success stories that helps you believe in the Great American
  > Dream-- makes you wanna cry, huh? *sniffle*
  
Required reading: "West of Eden" (I don't remember the authors name, I think
it's Frank Rose) it's about 2 years old and goes into great detail about the
early days including Mac development up to the hiring of Sculley (and his
firing of Jobs).**Must reading**
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From: smargari@nmsu.edu (Susan Margarit)
Subject: PB100 battery power
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 05:37:31 GMT

When I charge my PB100, it Hi-charges to 7.2 volts, drops to a
lo-charge 6.9 volts and then, when I disconnect it (even after
charging all night) it immediately drops to just over 6.2 volts which
registers as 6/8ths full on apple's battery DA. It does this with both
batteries. I self installed a 4m non-psram expansion so I though that
I might have a short so I took it apart, checked everything, and
reassembled it. I still get almost 2 hrs of life with the screen on
half way or more. Is this typical?

	Jim Margarit 
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From: mspace@netcom.com (Brian Hall)
Subject: Re: Apple CD300 announced
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:30:22 GMT

GAYNOR@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Jim Gaynor) writes:
>According to Newsbytes, Clarinet's set of computer-related newsgroups,
>Apple has just announced the Apple CD300 and Apple CD300i.

>The CD300i is the internal CD-ROM drive from the Performa 600CD - the
>double-speed drive that also supports the Kodak PhotoCD format, among
>others.  The CD300, of course, is the external version.

>Newsbytes quoted a list of $599, with about 10 CD titles packages with
>the CD-ROM drive itself.

There was also mention of CD Setup 4.0.1 - is this available for ftp?
Can we expect it on a developer CD? Will it, must it, can it be free?

Which machines can take the 300i?  Just the Performa?

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From: WIS@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Tape Drives
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:47:03 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

Simple question! Do tape drives for the Mac usually need device drivers
loaded into the system file?

(I've just got an Archive Viper 150MB tape drive from a dead Sun and I
can't get any Mac software to talk to it, so I was just wondering... The
tape drive does work on other Unix boxes)

From what I know about how SCSI talks to serial access devices, it seems
to me, that they can be treated as identical as far as software goes.

Any help, suggestions or general info?

Thanks

Bill Sellers
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From: lester@infonode.ingr.com (Lester Bartel)
Subject: Re: Repair your own Plus/SE power supply
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:42:23 GMT

in article <sch.718987757@gargoyle>, sch@unx.sas.com (Steve Holzworth) says:
> 
> Second: It does NOT require special tools to open a Mac Plus/SE.
> Ideally, you need a long shaft Torx driver (similar to a hex key, but
> not the same) to get to the screws in the case handle. You can GET BY
> with a long, narrow-bladed, flat screwdriver. It will fit into
> the slots in the Torx nut. Be careful not to strip it out.

I have used a hex wrench to remove the screws.  I have also used a small
screwdriver as mentioned.  Just FYI.

 - les

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From: jackb@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jack Brindle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape Drives
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:03:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: mdd.1992Oct7.170358.13362
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA

In article <1992Oct7.125611.5069@bcnews.bc.edu> Jonathan A. Duke <jonathan@hermes.bc.edu> writes:
>
>
>Subject: Tape Drives
>From: WIS
>In article <92281.104703WIS@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> , WIS@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes:
>>Simple question! Do tape drives for the Mac usually need device drivers
>>loaded into the system file?
>>
>>(I've just got an Archive Viper 150MB tape drive from a dead Sun and I
>>can't get any Mac software to talk to it, so I was just wondering... The
>>tape drive does work on other Unix boxes)
>
>Most people use tape drives in conjunction with a backup program such
>as Retrospect (from Dantz Development).  Retrospect has the necessary
>driver to communicate with a huge variety of tape drives built-in.

Mounting a tape on the desktop is definitely not unacceptable way of doing
things. The first time you try it, you'll understand why. It really slows
down your system since the Mac makes frequent accesses for file information,
such as when it redraws the Finder desktop. The slowness of the tape causes
this to be excrutiating slow. So, most of the tape handling software simply
talks through the SCSI manager directly to the tape controller.

There are several backup programs that can be used with tape systems on the
Mac. Unfortunately, they appear to look for specific items in the tape
controller's Inquiry information, so you can't connect just any drive to
the Mac and expect the software to support it. If anyone knows the specific
criteria used by Fastback or Retrospect, I'd really appreciate knowing it...

I'm in a similar boat in that I have an Archive FT-60 tape drive connected
to my Mac through an Adaptec ACB-3530 controller. I have successfully read
and written data from/to a tape, and can control it quite well using my
own programming. Since I have not found the magic formula to getting the
system to work with the commercial backup packages, I am about to embarc
on writing a tar/compress compatible system that will allow me to read
tapes from a unix system as well as my own. This seems to be the best way
to go, since tapes I write could be read on a Sparc with tar, then
decompressed to get a MacBinary image (for Mac files) or regular text
files. Any suggestions or comments are welcome!

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From: simon@mmpe.mineral.ualberta.ca (Simon Tortike)
Subject: Re: Quadra 700 - Mac Performance Comparison FAQ ?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:38:08 GMT

ldh@svl.cdc.com (Lawrence D. Hare) writes:

>Very nice, I think? I have been offered the opportunity to upgrade my
>venerable IIfx to a Quadra 700. I wanted a 950, of course, but a 700
>sounds nice.
>But is it really nice? Does anyone have any experience to offer? Should I
>wait for a 900 series system, at least until the 900 series prices drop
The latest (Nov) issue of MacUser has an article on accelerators, using
the Quadra 700/900 as the base. The 950 is included as an accelerator in
the guise of the 950 upgrade kit. Macs down to the IIci w/cache card are
considered. One item not considered was the Newer Overdrive cards. Ads in
MacUser claim it can speed up the Q700 from 25 MHz to 30 MHz (20%), just
short by 5 %age pts of the Q900 speed of 33 MHz. This for US$259 mail order.
Can anyone verify that this works as claimed? Is it so new that it did not
make the MacUser comparison?
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From: spatter@netcom.com (Steve Peterson)
Subject: Re: Woz in apple ad?
Summary: best engineer, who knows? luck, no 
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:41:50 GMT

In article <D2150056.ftnkn5@erics.infoserv.com> erics@infoserv.com writes:
>
>peterco@eff.org (Peter Cohen) writes:
>
>> You sound like someone who's spent a great deal of time in an educational
>> environment.
>
>Hardly. I've worked in the computer industry for the last 15 years.
>During that time I've been fortunate to be associated with a number
>of very talented individuals, many of whom I'm sure are just as talented
>as Mr. Wozniak. The reason why they are still laboring in obscurity
>while he is relaxing on his multimillions has mostly to do with luck,
>with being in the right place at the right time.
>

I don't agree with this statement.  We had a guy on our football team
who recovered an unbelievable amount of fumbles.  At first I thought
that was luck, but then when I watched him play I realized that at
times when everyone else who figured the play was just about over had
stopped to catch their breath, this guy was still hustling over to
wherever the ball was.  It wasn't luck that gave him all those
recoveries, it was probability -- he caused himself to be near the
ball more often than any other defensive player.

>> While "Publish or Perish" may be necessary for college
>> professors, it's hardly necessary for people who have made their money,
>> are happy to let others continue breaking ground where they've pioneered. 
>> I admit, this attitude can be construed as slightly mercenary, and is
>> probably totally inaccurate of what Mr. Wozniak's actual intentions are,
>> but who are you to question his goals, anyway?
>
>I never questioned his goals at all. He can do whatever he wants, as
>far as I'm concerned. I was questioning the statement of the previous
>article, that Woz "still is one of the best engineers of all time".
>What are the facts to support that statement?

I have to agree here: it is much easier to measure the talent on a
football field (in terms of who wins and who loses) than it is to
quantify and compare the abilities of a bunch of engineers who are all
engaged in different projects and who work inspired by various
motivations.  To say that Wozniak is the best is almost to imply that
engineers be measured by the millions they have made.  Does that make
Bill Gates, then, a better engineer than Wozniak?

>
>-----
>Eric Smith
>erics@infoserv.com
>CI$: 70262,3610
>
>

Steve Peterson
spatter@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May)
Subject: Re: Problems with Supra V32.bis faxmodem
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:37:04 GMT

Christos Frouzakis (cfrousak@arnold.Princeton.EDU) wrote:
: i recently bought a supra v32.bis faxmodem, which i'm
: trying ot use with my mac se. so far i haven't manage 
: to make it behave the way it's supposed to.
: the fax software sometimes has trouble recognizing the
: modem (it complains that there is an error in updating
: the settings and asks to check the connections) and 
: when it does connect it starts processing the file but
: does not dial out and fax it.
: with the modem part i have managed to connect at 9600
: a couple of times, but i don't see anything on the screen
: after the connectin (turning local echo on and off didn't
: help).

I have a Supra V.32bis fax modem as well, running on a IIci with lots
of extensions, and have had no problems. Here are some suggestions:

* for the FaxSTF (or whatever) ot work, be sure all extensions
(FaxMonitor, FaxStatus, etc.) are placed in the System folder and are
loaded at startup. Also, select FaxPrint in the Chooser (under the
Apple menu).

* the situation you describe above sounds like the fax is being
prepared but is then being held in an outgoing queue. Again, be sure
all the Supra and FaxSTF software is loaded at startup time.

* I found the default modem settings to be fine for 14,400
connections. If you've changed your settings, the Supra manual will
tell you how to issue a command to reset them to defaults.

--Tim May

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From: phupf@cse.unl.edu (phil hupf)
Subject: Dieing mac plus
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:51:48 GMT

Hi.
 
My monitor on my Mac + seems to be going dead.  The symtoms are:  at
times the middle right side of the screen goes fuzzy (gets out of focus
by losing or gain pixels randomly), during another epispode the whole
screen got fuzzy at random intervals.  What is happening?
 
My guess is the power supply is going.  The monitor connection has once
been resodered.  If it is the power supply will the power supply take
the mother board along with it to the graveyard?  How reliable is
componet repair of the power supply?
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Phillip Hupf
phupf@cse.unl.edu
phupf@nde.unl.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: straka@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (richard.j.straka)
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:55:42 GMT

In article <31788@goofy.Apple.COM> jyen@Apple.COM (John Yen) writes:
>oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
>
>>Peter Newton (newton@cs.utexas.edu) wrote:
>>I can't understand that  the P600 with a 25% faster processor
>>can be slower than a IIci. There should be something different, maybe the HD,
>>or the SCSI port.
>
>Everyone please relax & jitter over something else.  MacWEEK used beta
>software; why is everyone pontificating based on non-release software?!

As I understand, both MacWorld and MacUser used 7.1Pb (or whatever) for the
P600 benchmarks.  I don't know how much of a performance hit this beta
version imposes vs the tuned 7.0.1 used for other machines.  In my opinion,
the magazines did everyone a great disservice by publishing these numbers
*if* they were not comparable!  They should have used the 7.1Pb for *all*
machine tested.

Now, would anyone like to do a quick benchmark on both tuned 7.0.1 and 7.1Pb
on a single machine (e.g. a IIci) to assess the comparability of the
referenced magazine benchmarks?  Unfortunately, I don't have a direct email
address for those folks; otherwise, I'd write them directly.

As an aside, I am under the impression that a IIvx might be priced a few
hundred $$ more ($200-$400?) than a comparably equipped IIci.  I don't have
any idea as to the performance of the IIvx other than it's suppossed to be
equipped similarly to the IIci, but with a 32MHz CPU instead of 25MHz.

>
>John Yen  jyen@apple.com
>yet another end user (well, not really)
>#include <same_old_boring_disclaimer>


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From: louisc@lsil.com (Louis Chui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Best Price for Performa 600CD?
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:17:32 GMT
Reply-To: louisc@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

In article 13856@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM, rock@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM (Bill Petro) writes:
+>What is the best price you've seen for the new Performa 600CD?
+>
+>Here at Sears in Colorado Springs, it is $2500, with $430 for the
+>Performa Plus Monitor.
+>
+>Are prices better in the San Francisco Bay Area?  How about Frys?

Fry's nor any regular computer stores which I know of is carrying Performa
series. The only places I've seen so far are Sears and Montgomery Ward.

Louis Chui
louisc@lsil.com
From: labdk@emory.edu (Davo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: duo's one more time, please
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:44:58 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Hi...  I'm looking for info on expected prices of the duo 210 and
230.  Also any info on features would be appreciated...  Thanks

-- 

	
	David Kim
From: jcollias@src.dec.com (Jim Collias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: --> Mac Portable Parts 4 sale <--
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:52:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: src.1992Oct8.155230.16646
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center


	I'm parting out an old Mac Portable.  Check it out...

		- PSI ComPort internal FAX/modem card	$225.
		  w/correction (effectively 9600 bps)	

		- 1 Mb Apple RAM card			$200.

		- 40 Mb internal hard drive		$150.
							
		- 3.25" 1.44Mb internal floppy drive 	$125.
		  'Super Drive' I believe

		- Mother board (68000 processor)	$50.
		  Has an overheating problem
	
		- Non-backlit Screen (active matrix?)	$25.
		  Has one row of pixels out

		- Modular internal Keyboard		$20.
	
		- Small modular internal trackball	$20.

		- AC charging adapter 			$15.

		- Rechargable Battery			$15.

		- Original carrying case 		$10.


	All stuff is in great shape, except where noted. 

	You can take it all for $650.  (A complete working 
	computer with an overheating problem....)

	Make me offers.
	

	e-mail replies to:  jcollias@src.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bb11807@thug (Brian A. Blow)
Subject: Re: Turning on a Powerbook
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:28:49 GMT

JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt) writes:
: 
: Sure. Put it into _ Sleep Mode _ rather than doing a shut-down. The next
: time you want to use it, press any key and you are on, and right where you
: left off. No need to re-boot even, just wait for the hard disk to spin back
: up to speed.
: 
: The only time I ever _ shut down _ my powerbook is when I change battery
: packs.

OK, but is there any risk of damage to the PB being in sleep mode rather
than shutdown when I'm transporting it?

--Brian             brian.blow@medtronic.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: hankin@sauron.osf.org (Scott Hankin)
Subject: Re: PDA's are flop
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date:  7 Oct 92 16:45:16 GMT

hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:

>bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell) writes:

>>The computing power of the Newton is supposed to be twice the power of a
>>Quadra 900, with a nice operating system with built-in object oriented
>>databse manager and complete mutitasking with preemption.

>    While the Newton will have a RISC chip, claiming that it is twice
>the power of the Q900 is a bit excessive I think. It will certainly be
>many time more efficient than the 68000, but when comparing it to the
>'040 I wouldn't be so sure.

    Actually, the 2XQuadra 900 figure comes from Apple's own mouth.  FYI.

- Scott

Scott Hankin (hankin@osf.org)
Open Software Foundation
11 Cambridge Center
Cambridge, MA 02142
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From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Which 3-button mouse to buy - Mouseman or A3 mouse?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:56:02 GMT

Buy the mouseman--outstanding.
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