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From: duffiem@wl.com (Mark Duffield)
Subject: Re: NFS Problem
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:26:14 GMT

In article <31488@adm.brl.mil> fred@poly2.nist.gov (Frederick R. Phelan Jr.) writes:
>
>We have a strange problem.  We have a user (I'll call
>USER1) who has a file system mounted from a PI to a 4D80.
>The fstab entry on the 4D80 is:
>
>poly2:/usr/people/USER1 /usr/people/USER1 nfs rw,bg 0 0
>
>She complained to me that when working on the 4D80, she 
>could not write any files.  On checking things out I found
>that the system says that the owner of /usr/people/USER1
>on the 4D80 is another user (I'll call USER2).  However,
>If I do a umount -a and look, it goes back to saying
>/usr/people/USER1 is owned by USER1.  Thus, the NFS mount
>is making the system think that ownership is changing.
>
Sounds like USER1 has a different uid on the systems.  Check to see
whether USER1s uid on the PI is the same as the uid of USER2 on the 4D80.  If
they are the same, you will have to change one of them so that USER1 can
have the same uid on both systems.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: kurt@cashew.asd.sgi.com (Kurt Akeley)
Subject: Re: GL question: writing to user-defined frame buffers
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:18:16 GMT

-- 
In article <1992Jul21.201836.7395@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, clr@dgp.toronto.edu (Stephen Bohus) writes:
|> 
|> 	In article 23321 Jonathan Lim lim@cs.umass.edu writes:
|> 
|> > Is it possible to define some array in which all graphics output will be sent?
|> > As it stands now, I have to open a window, call some routines to draw into a
|> > buffer, then read from the buffer using lrectread. What I'd like to do is to
|> > have GL draw into some array without ever opening a window. (This would be
|> > analogous to X's capability of writing into a drawable, e.g. pixmap.) Any help
|> > would be appreciated.
|> 
|> 	No, this can't be done (as far as I know).  The graphics pipeline is
|> hardwired to the screen.  I don't know if this will change under OpenGL or
|> on new hardware architectures.

It will change under OpenGL.  GLX, the OpenGL extension to the X Window System,
defines OpenGL rendering into all X drawables, including X pixmaps.  On some
machines the performance will be substantially lower than rendering to an X
window, but the capability will always be there.

|> 	The only way you can send graphics output to an array (like the ones used
|> in lrectread and lrectwrite) is to write your own graphics routine.  I have
|> written a few routines to do two dimensional drawing in arrays (for polygons,
|> circles, fills).

-- Kurt Akeley	    kurt@sgi.com  (415) 390-3612  M/S 7U-550
		    Silicon Graphics, Advanced Systems Division
		    2011 N. Shoreline Blvd., Mtn. View, CA 94039-7311
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: tcpdump ? 
From: doelz@comp.bioz.unibas.ch (Reinhard Doelz)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:40:32 GMT
Reply-To: doelz@urz.unibas.ch
Organization: EMBnet Switzerland [BASEL]   

Recently,  tcpdump was mentioned in this group to be available
as version from Scott Presnell in a patch, and the 
full distribution from ftp.ee.lbl.gov - just the files which are mentioned
in the patch are not in the distribution. Same applies to the version 
from  vab02.larc.nasa.gov . Please inform me by Mail if you have a 
working distribution and how to get it. 

Regards 
Reinhard 


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: hoesel@igc.ethz.ch (Frans van Hoesel)
Subject: Re: Writing MS-DOS floppies from SGI's
Organization: University of Groningen, the Netherlands
Distribution: comp.sys.sgi
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:40:23 GMT

mtools works just fine on my indigo. just ftp the source, edit the file
devices.c to add the device for your floppy
and type make

isn't the world beatiful (and sometimes that shows)

-- frans

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: a few Indigo & 4d35 questions
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 01:50:59 GMT

In <22487@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> lee@luke.rsg.hac.com (C. Lee) writes:
| Does SGI support a DAT drive for the 4D/35?  Is it the same as the DAT for
| the Indigo?  Does it also support DDS and audio?

Not officially.  There were plans to use the same drive, but in a
bracket to 5 1/4" form factor.  I don't know if this is still in
process, or has been dropped.  From a software point of view, it
definitely works (I did all the DAT software development on a 35
with such a bracket).

| Does Indigo StarterVideo only work on an entry level Indigo, or will it
| also work on a 4D/35?

Only with starter graphics on an Indigo.

| We have a 4D/20 with a 580mb (?) hard disk from SGI and a QIC 150 tape
| drive.  Will these work if we disconnect them from the 4D/20, keep them in
| a separate chassis, and connect them to the external SCSI port of an
| Indigo?

Yes, they should.  The 20 did have worse SCSI throughput, so it is
possible the move will show up firmware problems in the drive.  SGI
has never sold a 580 Mbyte (formatted or unformatted) drive that
I have ever heard of.  The QIC-150 Archive drive is sold in an external
enclosure for the Indigo, with the same firmware, so it should be fine.

| What is the performance of entry graphics on an r4000 Indigo/rpc50?  Is
| it the same as for entry graphics on a Crimson (375k vect, 36k tri, 10k
| poly)?

It should be a bit better, but I haven't seen final numbers.  There wasn't
as much time as there could have been for tuning the inner loops of
the starter GL code for crimson, but it has been done for the r4k Indigo.

| Previous postings listed the price (starting August 1st) of an r3000
| Indigo/rpc (with 16mb instead of 8mb) as entry:$7,995 (no change) and
| xs:$11,495 (was $13,000).  Are there any prices changes for the xs24
| and elan?

No idea, sorry.
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From: gregg@vexcel.com (Gregg Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Has anyone had experience adding a SKYbolt processor to SGI sys?
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:04:01 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder, CO

I was wondering if anyone out there has connected a SKY Computer Co. Skybolt
processor to a Silicon Graphics machine. I am trying to contact someone who
knows enough about both systems to be able to tell me which of the SGI 
computers are compatable and which are not. I would also like to hear of any
problems, or tips someone might have on the subject.

Thanks in advance to those who reply.

Please reply to gregg@vexcel.com


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From: splinter@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: profview for IRIX 4.0.*??
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:57:22 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Does anyone out there know if there exists an X-windows interface to prof
that will run on IRIX 4.0.*? If so, where can I get it? Please send e-mail
directly to me at the below address. Thanks

Randall Splinter
Dept of Physics & Astronomy
Univ. of Kansas
splinter@kusmos.phsx.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Exabyte Backups of SYBASE database
From: phil@n6batws1.itwol.bhp.com.au (Phil McMillan)
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:51:02 +1000
Distribution: world
Organization: BHP Steel - Slab and Plate Products Division - Port Kembla AUSTRALIA


Hi.

Could somebody please help me backing up one of my databases, before
I set a match to my 4D35 with EXABYTE tape drive.

I have configured (in SYBASE) a tape device with the following parameters:

type "tape"
name tapedev
physname "/dev/rmt/tps0d4"
controller 4 -> sybase won't let me type anything except 4 to 8
type skip -> to skip label information
	(although I've tried noskip as well)
size 2000MByte

Everything works as expected when I start the dump.
That is, the console program pops up and asks me to insert tape 1.

I do this and type OK <return>

When I do this, the exabyte drive light flashes briefly before I get two
errors in the SYBASE error log.

I am not at the machine now, but the errors are of type "kernel" and they
claim that invalid parameters were passed to the write function.

Has anyone had this problem?  If so, what's the solution?

Thanks...phil

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From: thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: xmodem or zmodem and Mac's
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:43:25 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, Mountain View CA

In article <howarth.711299712@proto> howarth@rice.edu (Jack W. Howarth) writes:
>
>  Has anyone had any luck using the public domain sz and xmodem programs
>for Unix boxes to transfer .hqx or .bin files for the Mac? I am not
>sure if the byte orientation being different between the SGI and the Mac
>is causing the problem. I would like to be able to use the public domain
>hexbin programs to make Mac .hqx files into binary .bin files for 
>z- or x-modeming to the Mac (using MacBinary transfers). Has anyone explored     
>this and had any luck? Any comments welcome.

There is NO byte orientation problem between SGI systems and Macs.  My doc
department is moving 100s of xwd screen dumps processed by pbmplus and imgtools
from our SGI boxes to Macs daily (over Ethernet).  Systems such as 3B1, 3B2,
HP-9000/{300, 700, 800}-series, Sun-{2, 3, 4}, CTIX/Unisys, Motorola, SGI, Mac,
Amiga, etc. are all big-endian architectures between which even binary double-
precision floating-point numbers are compatible.  The only incompatibility I
can conceive would be that imposed by specific data alignment constraints.

Zmodem works between our Macs and Suns; haven't tried it between the Macs and
SGI boxes simply because none of our SGI boxes are on modems.  And, to be
clear, our Macs are running A/UX [ the ones between which file transfers are
being done ; the files are then copied to a Mac floppy for transfer to the
machines used by the doc department ].

It isn't clear from your post precisely what problem you're experiencing;
you MAY need to create a "resource" file for the files on the Mac.  Programs
such as ResEdit and ResCompare exist and are needed for the Mac; our doc
dept uses Norton Utils (on the Mac) to create the needed "resource" file on
the MacOS-based Macs so they can "use" the transerred files.  I don't know
the specifics 'cause I'm not a Mac-weenie!  :-)

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: Missing comment closure in 4.05 /usr/include/limits.h
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:03:07 GMT

In <Brs4so.LCt@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU> gil@swifty.dap.CSIRO.AU (Gil Webster) writes:

| In our 4.05 installation, line 92 of /usr/include/limits.h is faulty.
| The closing comment is missing on this line, thus the next
| definition is commented out.
| 
| #if (defined(__EXTENSIONS__) && !defined(_POSIX_SOURCE))
| 
| #define	ARG_MAX		5120 		/* max length of arguments to exec 
| #define	CHILD_MAX	25		/* max # of processes per user id */

Your file is truncated for some reason.  It is fine on all the 4.0.5
stock systems I looked at, and the file is 127 lines long.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: wollman@trantor.emba.uvm.edu (Garrett Wollman)
Subject: Re: Re-mapping keys?
Organization: University of Vermont, EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:15:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.162447.14369@odin.corp.sgi.com> mikey@sgi.com (Mike Yang) writes:
>!
>! Swap Caps_Lock and Control_L
>!
>remove Lock = Caps_Lock
>remove Control = Control_L
>keysym Control_L = Caps_Lock
>keysym Caps_Lock = Control_L
>add Lock = Caps_Lock
>add Control = Control_L

I do something similar in my .xsession.  A little-known fact is that
you can make META keys work in an MIT xterm using:

xmodmap - <<'EOF'
keysym Alt_L = Meta_L
keysym Alt_R = Meta_R
clear lock
remove control = Execute
add control = Caps_Lock
EOF

Since there is no excuse for a Caps_Lock key on a UNIX system in the
first place, it doesn't bother me a bit that I don't have one now.
Now the next trick would be to turn my Execute (aka Control_R) key
into a compose-character key...

-GAWollman

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From: shk@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (Steve Kinder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Exabyte errors
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:02:48 GMT
Reply-To: shk@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

We have a 4D/420 server, until recently we had 7 Seagate 1.2 GBytes disks, 2 Exabytes and
a QIC150 attached. All was working Ok. We attached a new 1.6 GByte disk and that night the
overnight backup failed to finish on one Exabyte tape as it normally would, and recoverable
errors were reported in the region of 500,000 to 2,000,000. These two facts may well be
coincidence (the disk and  the errors that is). We have now tried 2 replacement Exabytes both of which gave 'Uncorrectable media errors' and failed to work. Our second Exabyte initially continued to work Ok, but now this has started producing 'Uncorrectable media errors' aswell.
I have taken out the 1.6 Gbyte drive and the system now only has one Exabyte (the one which broke(?) second).This still fails to backup ok.

Any help/advice would be greatly appreciated. Does anyone know of any similar problems. Will these systems only support one firmware revision in Exabytes? The engineer seemed to thing his replacements may have been the wrong revision, but this doesn't explain why our second has stopped working. He also had a chat with someone who indicated there may be a problem with the SG trays used to hold one of the Exabytes and 3 disks (including the 1.6 Gbyte one). Does anyone know of such problems. I am beginning to



 have doubts about whether there is any problem with the Exabytes but some problem with the I/O card, the tray or the SCSI bus somewhere. But why aren't
the disk affected.

Another fact, probably unrelated is that we are having problems installing 2 more processors
in the system and getting it to come up.

This seems rather difficult to understand when I re-read it but any help would be appreciated

Steve Kinder
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: dcs@neutron.chem.yale.edu (Dave Schweisguth)
Subject: Re: xwsh's -title option doesn't do what I expect
Organization: Yale University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:07:49 GMT

dcs@neutron.chem.yale.edu (Dave Schweisguth) writes:
: 'xwsh -name foo -title bar' opens an xwsh with the title "bar".
: 'xwsh -name foo.bar -title baz' opens an xwsh with the title "foo.bar".

After chatting with several people, notably Kipp Hickman of SGI, I've assured
myself that I'm not seeing things. A bug report has been filed.

Now, if you don't care about the -title option, this hierarchical name
business is pretty cool!

Self-referentially,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: mannel@vaquero.neu.sgi.com (Bill Mannel)
Subject: Re: how to use /debug?
Reply-To: mannel@vaquero.neu.sgi.com (Bill Mannel)
Organization: Silicon Graphics S.A., Neuchatel, Switzerland
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:52:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.160133.314@cs.yale.edu>,
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
|> A programmer here needs to use dbx, which requires the /debug
|> filesystem to be mounted.  The trouble is, the man page on
|> dbg/debug doesn't explain how to mount it, and neither does
|> the man info on fstab.  I don't see any candidates for mounting
|> in the /dev directory.
|> 
|> How do I mount /debug?
|> 
|> --
|> Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
|> Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
|> New Haven, CT
|> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)
|> 


as root, make sure you have a /debug directory:

# mkdir /debug

then use mount(1M)

# mount -t dbg /debug /debug

use df /debug to look at:

# df /debug

This will normally be done at boot time (look at the
/etc/init.d/MOUNTFSYS file -
it checks to see if you have a /debug directory, and then uses mount(1M)
command as above)

In earlier O.S. versions (3.3 and before) /debug showed up with a
regular df, but
starting in 4.0, you have to do a df /debug to see it.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: r02kar@rec01.desy.de (Karsten Kuenne)
Subject: Re: Another help request
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron, Hamburg, Germany.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:35:17 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:29:13 GMT, stoler@seas.gwu.edu (Rich Stoler) said:
	Rich> Originator: stoler@seas.gwu.edu

	Rich> I have been trying to make groff 1.05 on a crimson. I
	Rich> keep getting the following error:

	Rich> g++ -c -I. -O errarg.c errarg.c: In method
	Rich> `errarg::errarg (const char *)': errarg.c:26: assignment
	Rich> between incompatible pointer types

	Rich> several of us have looked at it but cannot figure out
	Rich> what's wrong.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.  --
	Rich> Rich Stoler, Senior Systems Prgrammer, 	 	
	Rich> George Washington University SEAS Computing Facility,
	Rich> 725 23rd St NW, Washington DC 20052 	
	Rich> stoler@seas.gwu.edu -or- uunet!gwusun!stoler

I had the same problem. A quick and dirty solution was:

Change the following definition in lib/errarg.h :

-------------------------------------
class errarg {
  enum { EMPTY, STRING, CHAR, INTEGER, DOUBLE } type;
  union {
    const char *s;                            <==========
    int n;
    char c;
    double d;
  };
------------------------------------
into the following :

------------------------------------
class errarg {
  enum { EMPTY, STRING, CHAR, INTEGER, DOUBLE } type;
  union {
    char *s;                                   <=========
    int n;
    char c;
    double d;
  };
------------------------------------

This worked for me, but don't ask me why (I know C but I never wrote a
C++ program).

Another solution was to use SGI's C++-Compiler.  But this compiler was
not able to compile gpic ! The cfront produced C-Code from one source
file which screwed up the C-Compiler :-(. So I compiled gpic with g++
and the rest of groff with SGI's CC. But if you chose this solution
you have to compile the code in the lib directory twice !

Karsten Kuenne.
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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Turbo Graphic board swap?
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:07:26 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1529ebINNr4c@agate.berkeley.edu> dasilva@mies.ced.berkeley.edu (Ruieta Da Silva) writes:

| Does anyone know how to take a turbo graphics option board from
| one 25TG and put it in another 25? I hear that there are some
| resistors to cut, etc. Also how would you pull it out?

There should be no modifications required.  The board is screwed
into the emodule; I think you may have to remove some of the
optional boards to get to all of the screws.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.sgi:11589 comp.lang.c++:11724
From: gs4t@virginia.edu (Gnanasekaran Swaminathan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Re: C++ member pointer error
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:43:45 GMT
Reply-To: gs4t@virginia.edu (Gnanasekaran Swaminathan)
Organization: University of Virginia

tmcbraye@snert.ece.uc.edu (Tim McBrayer) wants to know how to
use pointers to members of a class.

Tim's example shortened and corrected. 

#include <iostream.h>

class V{
public:
  int i;
  V() { i = 0;};
  char * print(int x) {cout << "x is " << x << endl; return "Foo!";};
};

int main(){
  typedef char * (V::*fnptr)(int);
  fnptr fn = &V::print;
  V v;
  cout << (v.*fn)(5) << endl;
}

You need an object of a class to use a pointer to member of that
class. In the above example, we used (v.*fn)(5) to call the function
v.print(5). Similarly, other cases of pointers to members are used
as follows:

char* (V::*fptr)(int) = &V::print; // fptr is a pointer to member of V of type
				   // char*(int)
int   V::*dptr = &V::i; // dptr is a pointer to member of V of type int

V* vp;
V  v;

vp->*dptr = 10; // set vp->i to 10
v.*dptr   = 11; // set v.i to 11

(vp->*fptr)(10); // call vp->print(10)
(v.*fptr)(11);   // call v.print(11);

Hope it helps someone.

-Sekar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: jsw@microunity.com (Jeff Weinstein)
Subject: Re: Memory upgrades for R4000 Indigos
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:41:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.004035.27345@donau.et.tudelft.nl>, reinoud@dutecai.et.tudelft.nl (R. Lamberts) writes:
> From article <1992Jul17.204254.6599@microunity.com>, by jsw@microunity.com (Jeff Weinstein):
> > 
> >   The simms used in the R4k indigo are industry standard 36-bit wide
> > 80ns simms.  The prices quoted me by SGI are $1500 for 16Meg and $3000
> > for 32Meg.  You should be able to get about half that price from
> > the usual workstation memory vendors.
> > 
> > 	--Jeff
> 
> Very interesting... Considering the expensive special SIMMs in an
> R3k Indigo, does this mean that:
> 
> - main memory on a R4k Indigo is slower than on a R3k Indigo, or
> 
> - the special SIMMs in the R3k Indigo are just to shake some more
>   money out of us?

  Actually neither is true.  The main problem with the r3k indigo was that
there just wasn't room on the CPU board to put the chips that did the
memory interleaving/control, so they had to go on the back of the simms.
It was definitely not a conspiracy on the part of SGI marketing to squeeze
more money out of customers.  The engineers sincerely felt bad to have
to make that sort of engineering trade-off, and vowed never to do it
again.  They have lived up to it in the new r4k indigo.

	--Jeff

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