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From: joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us (Joseph Nathan Hall)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: MOST expensive beer
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 08:00:08 EDT
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In article <1992Oct15.025118.29703@equalizer.cray.com> (alt.beer), bruceh@cray.com (Bruce T. Hill) writes:
) I once bought a small bottle (maybe 12 oz.) of Lindemann's Framboise 
) (a raspberry lambic) at our local store for $4.25!  Probably costs
) alot to use a cork instead of a crown cap....

Typical pricing, maybe even a tad low.

Lambics/Flanders Browns are generally the most expensive beers you can buy, 
followed by the better Trappist and specialty Belgian ales (Duvel, Chimay,
Orval, Corzendonk, etc.).  Let's not forget Thomas Hardy's ale, though,
which is about $10 for a six-pack of 7oz nips, and Tranquair House,
which is actually reputed to run about $6/bottle (haven't seen one
myself).

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From: x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu (Roger Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: O'fest Beers, etc
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:36:55 GMT
Reply-To: x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu
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Some friends and I taste tested (ie: they helped move a heavy object 
and we drank beer afterwards on the back porch...) 4 O'fest beers last 
week. I thought the Capital a mild but fresh tasting beer and slightly 
sweet. Our Sprecher was richer tasting, hoppier (typical of Sprecher 
products) and more highly carbinated (spritzier?). We tried a quart of 
Schell's Octoberfest. Bland compared to the others. More a pils with an 
add-on flavor. Too sweet. The unanimous winner was a newly arrived 
Paulaner Oktoberfest. Rich, malty, not too sweet and a powerful finish.

About beer in "boxes". I've seen more of this in the Midwest than 
elsewhere. Summit, Capital and James Page products are all boxed. I 
think they get a deal on the boxes.... Capital is bottled at Point, if 
that means anything....which it probably doesn't.

Roger
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From: rob@med.umich.edu (Robert Strawderman)
Subject: Re: Please Help
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 08:06:45 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Health Sciences, Ann Arbor
Distribution: umich
Reply-To: rob@med.umich.edu (Robert Strawderman)
Originator: rob@gaspra


What the hell is this crap doing in this newsgroup ?
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From: twlane@nyx.cs.du.edu ()
Subject: Re: shipping beer
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:11:29 GMT

plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:

>In article <01050166.g5mkos@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us> joseph@joebloe.ma
le-shade.nj.us writes:
>>Homebrew isn't taxed.  It can't be sold, so it's hard to subject it
>>to an excise or sales tax.  In a socially advanced state like NJ,
>>though, I wouldn't be surprised to find that they're working on
>>the appropriate legislation.

>   Hmmmm, I thought New Jersey was one of those states that
>still had laws on the books prohibiting homebrewing.  Or maybe
>I'm thinking of Connecticut, or Delaware... I get all those
>little northeastern states mixed up. :-)
>--
>Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Homebrewer
>Brown University, Providence RI


This law was repealed in New Jersey last year.

Todd Lane     "Life is too short to drink bad beer"
From: lsmith@exa.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Changes at Pete's?
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:09:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Little Beer Squids of the Poor

Anyone know if Pete's Wicked Ale has changed brewers lately? 

Pete's used to be contract brewed by Schell's down in New Ulm. Recently,
I noted that the neck label says Pete's Brewery in St Paul, MN. The
cost of the beer has also dropped by about a dollar locally (Twin Cities.)

Landmark (formerly Schmidt) in St. Paul has been contract brewing. Any
word if Pete's has switched? 
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From: lsmith@mega.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Minnesota Brewpub laws
Organization: The Brewsquids of the Poor
Distribution: mn
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:22:57 GMT

In article <1bjvedINNcii@ub.d.umn.edu> serickso@ub.d.umn.edu (Scott Erickson) writes:
>
>Is anyone aware of the laws regard brewpubs in Minnesota, or where I could
>possibly find the laws.  As far as I know, there are not very many brewpubs,
>if any, in Minnesota.

There's one brewpub at the moment: Sherlock's Home. Very good beer but way 
out in Minnetonka. The person to ask about the laws would be the owner and
brewer at Sherlock's. If you call ahead he'd probably show you his brewery
and tell you about the law or where to find the info.
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From: wilcox@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: MOST expensive beer
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:33:09 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1bikebINN1aq@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU>, dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich) writes:
> I bought a 6-pack of Old Peculiar in Cambridge, MA for 12.50 US$, and
> also (mentioned recently) I bought a 4-pack of Duvel for $8.
> 

Now I assume you're talking Theakston's Old Pec? Just for interest, what size
were the bottles? I reckon to pay about a pound each (currently $1.70ish) for
bottles that hold rather less than half an Imperial pint (about 9 fluid
ounces.)
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From: trimm@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jeffrey M. Trimm)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Canadian Octoberfest...
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:20:08 GMT
Organization: UB


I go to school in Buffalo, NY (USA) and have heard that there is a very
large Octoberfest celebration in Canada relatively near to Buffalo.  Can
anybody please supply details on it?

Also, what other Octoberfest celebrations occur in relative proximity to
the Western NY region?

Thanx in advance....


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From: ml59+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Jay Lefever)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: cmu-"mikes brewery"
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:46:06 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

boy, did you know that penn state finally reached their quota of light weights
this year.  Boy don't some of those transfer students wish trhey could drink.

mike
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From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Subject: Re: Vote for Perot
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 15:51:36 EDT

In <1992Oct14.134128.1527@news2.cis.umn.edu> kimmel@staff.tc.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel) writes:

>In article <92287.153445JJB133@psuvm.psu.edu> <JJB133@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>   Unlike GHWB or Bill Clinton, my candidate has NEVER raised the beer
>>tax.
>>

>Perot has never been in a position to raise beer taxes.  He DOES want to
>raise the gas tax $.50 a gallon...

And raising the gas tax will raise the price of just about anything
shipped by a gas-powered vehicle. 50 cents per gallon more to ship CA
beers to PA...could get expensive!

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From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Subject: Re: MOST expensive beer
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 16:25:55 EDT

In <1992Oct15.120618.1@vax1.tcd.ie> blucey@vax1.tcd.ie writes:

>In article <Bw4x8I.K2C@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Baker) writes:
>> 
>Ed Sharpe writes : 

>>  With the least expensive thread, I just thought I would try to find out
>> what the most expensive beer you have ever bought or considered buying
>> was and how much it was? Mine was a 6 (cans) of Guinness that a friend and
>> I ended up buying in an Irish import store in Germany (we were desperate
>> so we paid close to $15 u.s.).

>Sorry Ed, The most expensive that I have drunk was in USA. The Westin Peachtree
>Plaza hotel in Atlanta sells small bottles of Urquell Pilsner from Czcch.
>for $4.50. The price in Ireland for a bottle is 1 pound . Beat that> 

Now that's hardly fair. I could sell some sucker a bottle of Schlitz
for $20 and call it the world's most expensive beer. Actually, I
stayed in a hotel in Seattle last year that got $5.50 for a glass of
Orange Juice. I didn't bother asking what beer cost!
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From: jb@crosfield.co.uk (john bartram)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: favorites
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:08:31 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <1992Oct13.220803.16950@leland.Stanford.EDU> miriah@loro-next.Stanford.EDU (Hot blonde) writes:
>My favorites are
>
>Heineken
>Pelforth (french beer, the dark version is best)
>Wilfort (also french beer, hard to find)
>Duvel

I brought a bottle of Pelforth Pelican brown beer back from a trip to
france a year ago. It was execellent ! It goes down as my all timme fav
brown ale and I have been known to sample the odd two or three. It beat
Newcastle brown into a poor third behind a swiss 'dunkel' I used to drink
in Berne. 

TThe bottle it came in was a full Litre and had a grolsh style swinng top.
Boy was it strong.

Sorry about the keyboard bounce but the axe is swinging in this neck of
the woods and its making me a little nervous. This may well be my last
post for some time.

Cheers

Barty the Fish.

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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Youngs RamRod 
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:21:16 GMT

o.k. here's anotherone .. last year i met a guy from england and i told him i was a great fan of beer and i was interested in some of the off the beaten trail brew of england .. he bought me 2 bottles of Young's RamRod Pale Ale ...
its a Barley Hops brew .... it wasnt bad .. but it had a definite taste that took getting used to .. it was probably the barley .. 
since i only had 2 bottles i didnt have time to discern the taste ... but i think it was the barley ... 
but it was definitely on the weak side as far as taste ... 
if anyone has had this maybe u know what i mean ... 

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Steve C. 

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From: COWAN@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (Paul L. Cowan)
Subject: San Miguel (was UK top ten imports)
Organization: CALIFORNIANS ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:59:48 GMT
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In <PALOU.92Oct9111530@osnome.che.wisc.edu> palou@osnome.che.wisc.edu writes:

:  In article <15584@suns502.crosfield.co.uk> jb@crosfield.co.uk (john bartram) writes:
:  
:  >   Last week the Independent had an article on imported bottle beer. It went
-------------------- This refers to the UK, stuff deleted ------------------
:  >	   5.	San Miguel
:  
:  Is this San Miguel the one from Spain or from the Pilippines?
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:  
:  Does anybody know what is the relation between the two San Miguel
:  breweries? I'm sure at one point there were the same, since tei logo
:  is almost exact.
:  

I can't answer this, but I remember a story that during the War in the 
Pacific, San Miguel (from the Philippines) was the best (only?) beer 
available. The US Navy pilots liked it so well that when one carrier group
was assigned to bomb the city where the brewery was located they supposedly
refused.


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From: rone@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ronald Elshaug)
Subject: Re: Australian beer
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 14:22:47 GMT
Reply-To: timfair@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester, MN

In article <1992Oct6.151651.1@registry.adelaide.edu.au>, you write:
|> OK, so everyone wants to give the local brew a plug, if the correspondence
|> on VB/XXXX is anything to go by. Well, I wanna give a South Aussie beer
|> a plug. "West End" I hear you say. "Blagh, Puke, etc." Agreed. But for those
|> debonair, cosmopolitan, epicurean, international connisseurs of fine ales
|> and lagers, I have deemed it necessary to promote the fine ales produced
|> by the Cooper's family here in Adelaide for nigh on a century. 
|> Traditionally brewed English Ales, such as Sparkling Ale and Pale Ale
|> are not only uniquely exquisite, but also free from all artificial nasties.
|> It's brewed in the bottle. They also produce great Stout and a reasonable
|> Light. Used to do a great Lager for export, not sure now. Home brew kits
|> make producing the real McCoy a breeze. I've said my bit. Cheers, Prost,
|> Skol, Salute, etc.
|> Mick Paddy Fox

I visited Australia this summer for a few weeks and tried many of their beers 
and I have to agree that Cooper's was the best of the lot.  The fact that it is
naturally brewed and bottled conditioned impressed me even more.  A great beer
made the proper way!  When I got back I was eager to make my own Cooper's.  I
have made a few attempts and I know I haven't gotten it right, yet.  Alas, I 
have no real Cooper's to compare it to and can't seem to find any in the store.

So if anyone down there (or up there, as I was told we northerners have our
perspective up-side-down) could find a way to ship me some, I would fully 
reimburse you and be eternally gracious.  If not, maybe a few tips on how to 
improve my own version.  Like maybe the fermentation temperature, etc...

Anyway, the XXXX was a little unusual at first, but after many, many, many, ...
taste tests it started to grow on me.  At the moment, I'd have to give it 2nd
place.  I am hoping to go back to Australia soon to continue amongst other 
things, my beer sampling test.  I have to say (happily) that most of the 
Australian beers are much better than the standard American Budmilloors.
And we all know that you Australians are happy about that too, don't we! ;-)

Cheers,
RonE
From: Peter.Hammond@brunel.ac.uk (Peter D Hammond)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: guinness cans
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:47:40 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
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Hi.
For anyone who is interested, there was an article about Guinness'  use
of nitrogen filled "widgets" in Physics Today, about two years ago. I can
probably dig up the correct reference if I try hard enough. They use
nitrogen because it is less soluble than CO2, so it breaks out under less
pressure, so the bubbles are smaller.

Stop press - I just found that New Scientist did an article "The Extra 
Ingredient in a Can of DRaft Guinness", A. Coghlan, New SCientist _123_
[1674] p.34, (1989). I haven't read it so I dont know how interesting/ 
useful it is.


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From: king@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Stephen King)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Toby (was: Bud sucks [and other nasty stuff])
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:50:50 GMT
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

In article <1992Oct9.083841.20763@wam.umd.edu> mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy) writes:
>But my FAVORITE beer of all time is a Canadian brew called Toby..the best!
>I wish they'd export it!!  Anyone else had it???

Yeah, this is one to look for on tap. Many places don't have it, but
fortunately there are a few in the Toronto area that do. This is a Canadian
copy of the British Charrington Toby; since I haven't tasted the original,
I can't comment on how faithful the copy is. I'm pretty sure that Toby is
available in bottles from most Ontario Beer Stores. I wouyldn't say that
it's my all-time favourite, but it is a very refreshing change from the
run-of-the-mill Canadian beers, dark, smooth and delicious.

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From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Subject: Re: beer DRINKING
Keywords: beer
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 12:06:04 EDT

In <mcnair.24.718747540@slab.unt.edu> mcnair@slab.unt.edu (SEAN MCNAIR) writes:

>    I have been drinking beer since I was very young (three years.) I am now 
>forty-eight years old, and I usually drink three six packs a day. Recently I 
>was laid off and I began to drink heavily. (usually a case and a half a day.)
>My unemployment benefits pay for the beer, so its no problem, financially. 
>My only problem is that sometimes I pass out and pee into beer cans. When I 
>wake up, I'm still pretty drunk, and there are so many beer cans in the 
>room, I don't know where I left off. So, sometimes I drink my own piss! It's 
>just that I'm too drunk to tell the difference, and often the beer is warm, 
>and as I drink BUD, it's hard to tell the difference between piss and warm 
>beer when your're really wasted. Does anybody know whether drinking piss as 
>opposed to just beer can cause health problems?

	Yes, drinking piss causes alcoholism and brain damage.

>                                   Gumby
>P.S. Sometimes I polish off an entire BUD pounder bottle filled with piss 
>before I know what's going on! I hope this is not a health hazard!
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From: serickso@ub.d.umn.edu (Scott Erickson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Minnesota Brewpub laws
Date: 15 Oct 1992 09:32:45 -0500
Organization: University of Conformist Thought
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Is anyone aware of the laws regard brewpubs in Minnesota, or where I could
possibly find the laws.  As far as I know, there are not very many brewpubs,
if any, in Minnesota.


-- 

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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Brooklyn Lager
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:43:15 GMT

In article 24656@porthos.cc.bellcore.com, gfl@hera.uucp (22402-lenahan) writes:
> > i live in the new york area .. where are there such seminars ..
> > 
> >  Steve C.
> >
> Steve-
> 
> I haven't found many.  This one was not open to the general
> public => it was for the retail and restaurant industry,
> (and a few lucky folks who knew someone) ...
> 
>  


thanx ... 

---
Steve C. 

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From: bruceh@cray.com (Bruce T. Hill)
Subject: Re: MOST expensive beer
Organization: Cray Research Superservers Inc., San Diego CA, USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:51:18 GMT


I once bought a small bottle (maybe 12 oz.) of Lindemann's Framboise 
(a raspberry lambic) at our local store for $4.25!  Probably costs
alot to use a cork instead of a crown cap....
Interesting stuff those lambics.
First tastes like fruit, but finishes with a distinctly malty (beery)
aftertaste.  This was my first and only (so far) lambic tasting.
At this kind of price who can afford to drink alot of it?
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From: music@moravian.edu (Steve Heller)
Subject: Re: Old Peculiar (was MOST expensive beer)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 10:41:57 EDT

Michael Jackson has an interesting comment about Old Peculier that
goes something like: "In bottled form it is as embracing as a chaste kiss.
If it is chilled, so is the kiss." By this I take him to imply that
the draught form is much to be preferred...
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