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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:54:06 +0000


In article <1992Sep10.103025.29243@sun.pcl.ac.uk> chrisc@sun.pcl.ac.uk writes:
 
> In article <1992Sep3.155858.5666@riacs.edu> howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John>  Howells) writes:
> >k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce) writes:

> ><Talking about "Excalibur" got me to thinking about the actor who portrayed 
> ><Arthur. I can't recall seeing him in *anything* after that film came out.
> >  ... Can some
> ><wise TriviaLord out there fill us in on his career (and his name too)? 

Will a TriviaLady do?
       
>  ... Nigel Terry played Arthur and he did seem to
> disappear after Excalibur, although he was in Derek Jarmans Edward II
> recently and he was in something on TV here in the UK recently the name of
> which I can't remember (Cherie Lunghi who played Guinevere was also in it).

Nigel Terry has made quite a few films over the years, (mostly forgettable,
I regret to say.) He has worked with Jarman a few times; he was in
"Caravaggio"(1986) and also in "War Requiem" (1988). His most recent TV
performances are "The Orchid House" (reshowing on Channel 4 tonight and
next Thursday) and the pilot of "Covington Cross", which we can expect more
of next year.

I'm afraid I remember seeing (as it shows how eld I must be!) Nigel
in "The Lion in Winter" (1968) and on stage in the West End in "She Stoops
to Conquer" in 1969 with Tom Courtenay and Juliet Mills.
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From: kachun@astro.as.arizona.edu (Ka Chun Yu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut (SPOILERS)
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:02:17 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Sep13.232608.20626@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:
>Last year's raw cut had the voice over of Deckard observing Roy
>dying.  It is the same as found in the regular release of the
>film (something like, "I watched him die...").  This was the only
>V.O. in the raw cut.  The Director's Cut did not contain any V.O.
>
>According to the book, _Retrofitting Blade Runner_, there's supposed
>to be a scene of Dekard talking to Holden in the hospital.  I don't
>recall what transpired, but the scene was supposed to reinforce how
>arbitrary the "man-machine" duality is: Holden, hooked up to the
>respirator and other life support equipment, is now more artificial
>than any replicant.  Does anyone know if this scene was filmed, or
>just a gleam in People's eyes that didn't make it to the final
>screenplay? (I lent my book to someone, so I don't recall what it
>said)
>

I don't have my copy of the book in front of me, but here goes...
I believe Holden was telling Deckard not to get too emotional about
the replicants that he was (or will be) killing.  The most interesting
part about that scene was not that conversation per se, but a pull
back where you finally get a p.o.v. from Gaff and Bryant who are watch-
ing the two on TV monitors.  Bryant says something like, "There's 
nothing sadder than watching two over-the-hill blade runners getting
metaphysical."

I don't think that scene was ever filmed (again don't trust me on
this--I don't have the source in front of me).  Holden in the scene
told Deckard about how human-like the Nexus 6 were; supposedly the
autopsy team spent two hours with the replicant that got fried trying
to break into the Tyrell Corporation before they realized it wasn't
human.  All of this was deemed unnecessary since much of the information
is a repeat of what Bryant had told Deckard.

>
>--
>"It's a Drake's Coffee Cake....  I have another one, but I'm saving
>it for _later_."


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From: dj@ekcolor (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: Marx brothers: a question
Organization: :noitazinagrO
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 15:11:20 GMT

RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET () writes:
: I wonder if anyone can help me with the following query.  There is a short
: dialogue which goes (roughly) as folows:
: 
: The MB are looking for something, perhaps a treasure and someone suggests
: that it may be in the house next door.  At this, someone says "but there
: IS no house next door" to which the response is, "then we will build one".
: Which movie does this occur in and aproximately where?
: 
: Thanks much,
: Rohit Parikh

Sounds like Animal Crackers, which takes place in a mansion and involves
a hunt for a missing painting.  I can't remember seeing anything like
this in a Marx Brothers movie though, and I've seen most of them.

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Subject: Re: I think Alien^3 has been flogged to death.
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 02:01:14 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

How could Aliens 3 be flogged to death?

It was stillborn.

(Flame bait? Me?)
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From: georgen@pooky.cs.mun.ca (George Noel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me (*MAJOR SPOILERS*)
Summary: Angel and Cooper
Keywords: Connections..
 
 Did anyone make the connection between that picture and the "family" in
 the red room above the convenience store around the formica table? One
 of the angels in the picture was dressed in red and is sitting in the same
 place where the LMFAP was sitting at the formica table. The angel that
 disappears and re-appears and then disappears later and shows up again in
 the lodge.. how about that representing Cooper? Could possibly link back with
 my thought of Cooper being the Dhali Llama and the thought of some person
 said that Cooper was needed to guide "Laura through the light". I was also
 wondering if that dancing man with the black hair in the red room could
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:34:36 GMT
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-=*George*=-
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From: cass@netcom.com (Diana Tenery-Fisher)
Subject: Re: Name this Movie
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 17:08:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

med50003@nusunix2.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN) writes:

>The reference however in the earlier series of posts about this movie
>which detailed ralph macchio dueling the devil for the soul of an old
>blues musician did strike a bell though. I have seen this movie and I
>thought the ending was pretty good. Mind you, I did fall asleep and eat
>a snack away from the tv in the middle. I have this weakness for really
>good guitar work (Joe Satriani played the devil's champion). The fun
>part is watching ralph macchio fake playing classical music on an
>electric guitar - :-))

>Anybody know of any other movies like this? (trivia question.)

The movie is named Crossroads.... As for other movies like that...
Angel Heart is a bit of the devil vs. mortal kind of thing.

-diana

>Gervais
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From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut (SPOILERS)
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:45:27 GMT

spoilers!


bam%bang@trout.nosc.mil writes:

>Dropping the voice-over dramatically improved the flavor of the film.
>The crowded city scenes and the flying sequences were either lengthened
>or were just much more intense without the narration.  Maybe its just a
>perception thing but "seeing the film" without Harrison Ford "telling me
>about it", forced me to feel the world in a deeper way than I had
>before. Even though I own the Criterion Laserdisc of the film and have
>seen it a dozen times.

I'm really not sure that an average viewer viewing it for the first
time would be able to follow it.  In other words, the original reason
for adding the voice overs might have been valid.  We really can't tell.


>Notes:
>
>Just seeing Bladerunner on the big screen again was great even if they
>had made no changes!

No one's mentioned this yet, but this was the most beautiful print
of this movie I can remember seeing.  I saw it in its initial theatrical
release, but that was too long ago for me to remember that kind of
a detail.  It's worth seeing just for the vivid colors.  It really
brought out what was my favorite effect in the whole movie: After
Rachael kills Leon, in Deckard's apartment, when he's drinking that
gin (?), his blood clouding the glass.

Also, I think a scene was extended by a second or two.  In Chew's
Eye World, the last scene where Roy says, "now where would I find this
J... F... Sebastian?".  I think the camera lingers on him for an extra
second or two as he leans back and the fluorescent lights do wonderful
things to his hair.  This effect is now my favorite in the movie.

Did anybody else suspect that the unicorn scene might have come from
Legend?
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From: bov@x.co.uk (Andy Bovingdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Highlander Question
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:29:01 GMT
	<1992Sep8.220434.12616@linus.mitre.org>
Organization: IXI Ltd.

>In article <BuA2sH.Mr2@acsu.buffalo.edu>, mec@acsu.buffalo.edu (Marie E. Copertino) writes
>> In the movie "The Highlander", was Lambert's character named:
>> 
>> 		Collin, Collum, or Connor   Macloud?

> It was Connor MacLeod

Yeh, but it should have been Colin MacLeod. I can see it now Highlander 3, Colin MacLeod
and his son Trevor MacLeod, go out for the day to visit Uncle Cecil and Aunt Flo. They 
have a great time drinking tea and eating small white cucumber sandwiches with the crusts
cut off. 

Can't be worse than 2 can it.

Bov!
 



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From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Subject: Aussie Linda Hamilton lookalike (in "Alana")?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology, Trondheim, Norway
Distribution: rec
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:27:46

In an earlier thread there was a mention of Linda Hamilton in an
Aussie movie, then someone replied "No that was someone else. She
looked a bit like Linda, though...". Don't remember which film.

Well,... I think I've seen her, is all. She was in an Australian TV
series about a girl from the future (called "Alana", or something).
She played the mother of those kids Alana hooked up with.

Same mouth as Linda, and same face build. Linda's got the better chin,
and the straighter nose, though... (there was a "Beauty & the Beast"
rerun on another channel, so I could do a direct compare...;-).

- Steinar
From: cn@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Needham)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:45:14 GMT
Subject: The Dead List (G-K) Part III of V
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
From: v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I have a cunning plan...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep14.182200.3889@news.acns.nwu.edu>, msr@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michael Rosenberg) writes...
>I don't know if anyone has mentioned this, but what about the movie with
>Michael Caine and Laurence Olivier (the name is escaping me)  Not only were
>they the only two people in the film, but they were both nominated for Best
>Actor (I believe).  It was a fairly good, although very confusing film.


That would be Sleuth. An excellent movie.:-)

> 
>--Mike
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From: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,alt.cult-movies,rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Holden's Eyes (was Re: Blade Runner...(SPOILERS))
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:31:57 GMT
Reply-To: egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <BD.92Sep14132707@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>
>Hate to spoil a thread here, but if replicant eyes glowed and
>human eyes didn't, what do you need the Voight-Kampf test for?

It's a textual clue for the audience.



--
"It's a Drake's Coffee Cake....  I have another one, but I'm saving
it for _later_."
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From: eyeater@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: <None>
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:22:47 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Sep3.132549.21389@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE>, k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (ce) writes:
> Talking about "Excalibur" got me to thinking about the actor who portrayed 
> Arthur. I can't recall seeing him in *anything* after that film came out.
> Admittedly, Excalibur was not a great calling-card for the man's acting
> skills but one would have thought he could have gotten a job *somewhere*
> (teenage-slasher, running around naked in a Greenaway film :). Can some
> wise TriviaLord out there fill us in on his career (and his name too)?

		(.sig deleted)

	His name, as I recall, was Nigel Terry, but I haven't the slightest 
  idea what he's done since.

  [Eric Yeater, for whom the Public Broadcasting Service is not responsible]
From: IZAC@NDSUVM1.BITNET
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Subject: Re: REVIEW: TWIN PEAKS: FIRE WALK WITH ME
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:41:27 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

Well, I for one am very distressed at the Twin Peaks bashing going on in this
review.  As a devout and wholeheartedly loyal (dare I use the word "fan"?), I
am apalled at the things you have written.

What the hell is unneeded symbolism?  And who the hell are you to say it was
unneeded, anyway.  It seems to me that poetic license was still left to writers
and not reviewers.  Besides, what was Twin Peaks (the series) anyway, but a hot
bed of obscure symbolism?

As for the lack of character development, in my opinion, that's exactly what
this movie was.  It was, in essence, "Laura Palmer's Secret Diary" in cinematic
form.  Those of us TRUE Peaker's who read the damn book when it was published
would recognize that.

Don't get me wrong, honey, your review format is to die for.  Just in the
future, try not to bash a movie you don't understand.  AND DON"T YOU EVER BASH
AGENT COOPER, AGAIN!  Pass me a piece o' cherry pie, Lucy.

                                                          Rox
From: brian@mtl.mit.edu (brian foley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: movie with 'blows' in the title?
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:29:44 GMT
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories


This is for a puzzle I'm doing...

The puzzle requires me to find out the number in a movie title
with the word 'blows' in it. (ie. 'seven blows' or something
like that).

any takers?

thanks'
Brian
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From: bahn@main.mndly.umn.edu (Christopher Bahn)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: the Minnesota Daily (U of MN Student Newspaper)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:44:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.215528.29891@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell) writes:


> What is the most embarassing movie you have ever seen?  (What I mean by
> embarassing, is that you feel absolutely miniscule when the lights come
> up and you HAVE to walk out of the theater with every other bonehead
> who bought a ticket to this turkey).  Movies on video don't count as
> your stupidity is hidden by the walls of your house. :-)

This is easy, and I'm surprised nobody's mentioned it yet. "Twin Peaks: Fire 
Walk With Me" is the worst film I have _ever_ seen, which is unfortunate 
because i spent two hours convincing my sister to see it with me...I even 
paid for her ticket. If you hated Highlander II, you'll want to lynch Lynch.
From: knude@daimi.aau.dk (Per Knudsgaard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Alien^3
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:31:02 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:

>kbuckhu1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Keir Buckhurst) writes:

>>Sorry to do this, but I had no access to the net over the summer, so here
>>comes a probable FAQ:

>>In Alien^3, in the final scene, what is it that is being played over by the
>>flight recorder (or whatever that is).  I could tell it was Ripley, saying
>>something, but unfortunately I saw the movie in New York City, so I only
>>caught every eighth word.  Could someone please post and tell me (if not
>>word for word) the gist of what is being said?

>It was Ripley's signoff message from the very end of the first film, just
>after she had blown up the Nostromo and jettisoned the alien, and just
>before she entered hypersleep.

   But is it from the flight recorder? I thought that the transmission had been
traveling along at the speed of light for fifty odd years only to be picked up
by the radio on the EEV. For me, it was THE great moment of an otherwise average
movie.

   Per Knudsgaard, knude@daimi.aau.dk
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From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut (SPOILERS)
Organization: Information Services, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:57:00 GMT

kachun@astro.as.arizona.edu (Ka Chun Yu) writes:
> _BR_ is full of these little errors.

Some more errors, some of which may be deliberate.

* The close-up on Roy's hands clenching into a fist when he's in the phone
booth at the start of the movie - this is the exact same film stock of Roy
clenching his fist right before he puts a nail through his hands at the end
of the movie.

* The close-up on Roy's face when he's in the phone booth is the exact same
film stock of Roy talking to Tyrell at the end of the movie, but just
reversed horizontally.  In fact, check out the hand that's resting on
Tyrell's shoulder in the scene.  It's Tyrell's hands, but Tyrell obviously
wasn't in the phone booth with Roy at the start of the movie!

* The serial number that the old asian lady reads off the snake skin is not
the same as the one on the screen.

* Some of the background voices during the chase scene between Deckard and
Zhora are repeated a lot.  One is recognizable for me because it's some
Japanese sippet like "nanka henna mono ga ..." which mean "hey, something
strange is ..."  It gets repeated like four or five times, along with some
other snippets.

Obligatory BladeRunner quote:

		"Commerce is our goal here at Tyrell.
		'More human than human' is our motto."

Mmm, cuts to the heart of the movie...

--
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From: masticol@cadenza.rutgers.edu (Steve Masticola)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: movie with 'blows' in the title?
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:15:16 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


brian@mtl.mit.edu (brian foley) writes:

    The puzzle requires me to find out the number in a movie title
    with the word 'blows' in it. (ie. 'seven blows' or something
    like that).

    any takers?

Through the magic of "grep -i blows":

      ..0..11400      21   7.6  400 Blows, The
      1....13221      10   7.2  When The Wind Blows

- Steve "I never heard of When The Wind Blows, either" masticol@cs.rutgers.edu.
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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:05:06 GMT

In <7178.2a9bbe67@dcatla.uucp> cuegf@dcatla.uucp writes:


>I liked "Platoon". I think the main character, Chris, was played
>by gary cooper (not the dead one).

nope - at least I have yet to get some royalties.... 
-- 
gary cooper (not the dead one)     "Non Dignis Sum!" - Waynus and Gartus 
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From: jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen)
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Organization: University of Joensuu
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:15:05 GMT

msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>Well, in this connection, I can't resist quoting the following remark.
>A well-known actor (possibly John Gielgud, I don't remember) apparently
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>said it to his co-star just before they began filming a sex scene:

>  Please forgive me if I get an erection, and also if I don't.
>--

I'd put my money on Michael Caine. Any other suggestions? :-)
 
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From: mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Casey)
Subject: Re: Holden's Eyes (Blade Runner)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:35:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.211132.13004@jade.tufts.edu> gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:
>In article <1992Sep14.155443.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>>>Sender: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
>>>In-Reply-To: dododge@wam.umd.edu's message of 13 Sep 92 07:59:45 GMT
>>
>>>Hate to spoil a thread here, but if replicant eyes glowed and
>>>human eyes didn't, what do you need the Voight-Kampf test for?
>>
>>For that matter if they had pictures of all the replicants (Like Dekard
>>was shown in the beginning) what use was the Voight-Kampf test??? 
>

	I think it would be reasonable to say that the VOID/COMP test
	(I think the machine name is an acronym, at least in the book)
	is used to prove that someone is a replicant.  At least in the
	cases where the suspect shows no hostility, regardless of a
	close facial match, there is a chance that there are many humans
	that look just like the replicant on file.  Nobody wants to make
	the mistake of retiring a human, so the test is to make sure.
	Also, other posters have been correct in pointing out that
	the VOID/COMP is helpful in cases where the Replicant's 
	records are not available or that it is an unidentified Replicant.


					Rob

					GENESIS:
				     "So don't tell anybody
	_/_/_/_/   _/_/_/_/   _/_/_/  what I wanna do
	_/     _/  _/       _/     _/ If they find out 
	_/     _/  _/       _/        you know that Ripley will be there too
	_/_/_/_/   _/_/_/   _/        Oh no no it's no fun
	_/   _/    _/       _/        being a Giger Alien
	_/    _/   _/       _/     _/ Oh no no it's no fun
	_/     _/  _/_/_/_/   _/_/_/  being a Giger Alien" 
	Robert E. Casey  (mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu)

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