Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: to Kocabas on "The Qur'an and The Bi
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:29:16 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

> Re:to Kocabas on THE QUR'AN and THE BIBLE, Muslim-Christian  
> Dialogue  
  
> 	It seems you are behaving like Bektasi. Do you know the story  
  
> 	It seems you are stuck in several verses of the Qur'an and at  
  
> 	I do not remember the verse number off hand right now where  
> Allah SWA curses  those people who change the scriptures with  
> their hands for the worldly benefits.    
  
> That verse definitely  
> proves that whatever Allah SWA revealed to Moses (pbuh) as Torah  
> and to Jesus (pbuh) as Injil did not remained same.  People  
  
Allah is my witness that neither Allah nor his Prophet said  
such a thing:  
  
> whatever Allah SWA revealed to Moses (pbuh) as Torah  
> and to Jesus (pbuh) as Injil did not remained same.   
  
These are your words...bring your book Man!  
   
> changed them for worldly benefits.  	You can find out many other  
> verses which supports this argument in Qur'an. Like Christians  
  
Nothing in those un-quoted verses gives you the ground to erode  
the words of Allah, such as Injil/Tavrat/Quran...you are distorting  
the verses that you cannot even quote here with your illusions and  
substitutions...I openly reject this.  
  
> 	NOW, DON'T BEHAVE LIKE BEKTASI.  WHEN YOU READ THE QUR'AN, READ  
> IT IN ITS CONTEXT. DON'T BEHAVE LIKE A SCHOLAR OF ISLAM.  GO AND  
> READ BOOKS OF THE SCHOLARS OF ISLAM AND INCREASE YOUR KNOWLEDGE  
> BEFORE YOU SPEAK ANYTHING ABOUT ISLAM.   
  
Just listen what you have written...it is better for you...  
It is not me Man, NOT ME who dares to speak anything about Islam  
before knowledge, or after knowledge...I spoke NOTHING..other than  
rejecting what you spoke...  
   
> 	Another thing is that: DON'T REPEAT YOUR SLANDEROUS ARGUMENTS  
> ANYMORE.  We did not claim anywhere, anytime to produce any  
> statement which is equivalent to that of The Qur'an's.  We even  
> can not dare to do such a thing.  Come to yourself, you  
> slanderous guy.   
  
But don't mind sticking your words like:  
  
> whatever Allah SWA revealed to Moses (pbuh) as Torah  
> and to Jesus (pbuh) as Injil did not remained same.   
  
Listen to what you've written Man!..and see who is slanderous;  
 . the one who says:  
> 	NOW, DON'T BEHAVE LIKE BEKTASI.  
 or me who says:   
  
Allah is my witness that neither Allah nor his Prophet said  
such a thing:  
   
> 	I am like a mirror, did you know that.  Whatever you tell me  
> about myself and my articles, IN ACTUALITY you are seeing  
> yourself.  
  
Yes, you are a mirror, but a distorted one...not polished enough  
yet...a hazy mirror who expects people to see the truth via its  
reflections :->  
  
But people of AKL don't need mirrors like you to see the truth.  
They go, and read the Quran, and OBEY, without mumbling..  
   
> -----------------------------------       
>   
> The one who looks at good, sees good and   
>   
> the one who sees good, thinks good.    
> ---------------------------------------  
  
Is that why you read my messages for:-> goooooooooooooooooood.  
> Irfan.  
   
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