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From: ins499y@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Deeran Peethamparam)
Subject: Re: Illegal Acceleration?
Organization: Monash University
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:45:27 GMT

John R. Daker (jrd@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
: I have wondered what a "protector of humanity" would do.  In my 
: younger and more foolish days, I smoked a cop away from a red light
: all the way up to the posted limit. Ooooooooooo.

Reminds me of the time when I was driving home from a night out -- it
was 2am in the morning, clear sky, moon out, deserted roads.  Anyway, I
was sitting at a set of lights on a three-lane highway when a guy in
an '89 Honda Prelude pulled up beside me.  He was revving his engine,
and so I thought, "Right!  Let's take this guy!".  So when the lights
turned green, I smoked him away from the lights (I drive a mildly
worked '79 Mazda 626).  So, for the next 3 lights, we had full-on
accleration runs.  No other cars on the road, and photo radar wasn't
around then, so I didn't really care too much.  Anyways, we were pretty
even -- it came down to who was first away from the lights.

At the final set of lights, he made the "time-out" sign (you know, hands
together to form a "T") and I nodded.  Then he pulled out his wallet
and flashed his cop's shield.  Oops.  Should have seen the smirk on
his face!  No ticket, though, thank the lord.

D.P.
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From: chitwong@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (wong chit)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Parking Violation
Date: 15 Aug 92 04:41:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: chitwong@doc.cc.utexas.edu

Dear netter,

    I have a parking ticket received in NY City because I parked my car beside
a hydrant.  Since there are not much chances in Texas that I will see a 
hydrant, at that time I did park beside a hydrant.  I wonder this will appear 
on my driving record if I do not pay the fine. 

   Thank you for your responds.

Patrick.
   
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From: getman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Steven R. Getman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Illegal Acceleration?
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:42:16 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Aug19.234527.18984@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins499y@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Deeran Peethamparam) writes:
>John R. Daker (jrd@po.CWRU.Edu) wrote:
>: I have wondered what a "protector of humanity" would do.  In my 
>: younger and more foolish days, I smoked a cop away from a red light
>: all the way up to the posted limit. Ooooooooooo.
>
>Reminds me of the time when I was driving home from a night out -- it
>was 2am in the morning, clear sky, moon out, deserted roads.  Anyway, I
>was sitting at a set of lights on a three-lane highway when a guy in
>an '89 Honda Prelude pulled up beside me.  He was revving his engine,
>and so I thought, "Right!  Let's take this guy!".  So when the lights
>turned green, I smoked him away from the lights (I drive a mildly
>worked '79 Mazda 626).  So, for the next 3 lights, we had full-on
>accleration runs.  No other cars on the road, and photo radar wasn't
>around then, so I didn't really care too much.  Anyways, we were pretty
>even -- it came down to who was first away from the lights.
>
>At the final set of lights, he made the "time-out" sign (you know, hands
>together to form a "T") and I nodded.  Then he pulled out his wallet
>and flashed his cop's shield.  Oops.  Should have seen the smirk on
>his face!  No ticket, though, thank the lord.
>
>D.P.
>--
In New York they call that a "Contest of Speed" not sure what the fine is
though.
From: tuncer@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Emre Tuncer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: '79 Mustang
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:33:53 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Hello,
I have a '79 Mustang with a 6-cylinder inline engine. I have a problem
for a while. The problem is whenever I drive on a highway for
more than 10 minutes one of the valves start to knock (I think it's a
valve noise). And it doesn't go away. After the motor cooled down, when
I first start it the knocking continues for a short time and it goes
away. When it is knocking a turned the distributer left and right
and the sound didn't change, so I don't think it is a timing problem.
Any comments will be appriciated,
Thanks in advance,

Emre Tuncer

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From: paraska@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Pete Paraska)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Tailgaters abound!
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:08:01 GMT
Reply-To: paraska@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Peter Paraska)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.autos.driving, dreuben@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>As to why people don't flash:

 <lots of stuff deleted which I absolutely agrre with>
>Oh, and one final thing: NY Taxi and Limmo plates (they say T & LC on them) are
>the worst - they NEVER get out of the way....I think they should be banned from
>
>Doug

Cabbies are the worst left lane hog offenders, after mom in her damn
minivan or Volvo that is.
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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Illegal Acceleration?
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:11:40 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <1992Aug19.234527.18984@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> ins499y@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Deeran Peethamparam) writes:
>
>Reminds me of the time when I was driving home from a night out -- it
>was 2am in the morning, clear sky, moon out, deserted roads.  Anyway, I
>was sitting at a set of lights on a three-lane highway when a guy in
>an '89 Honda Prelude pulled up beside me.  He was revving his engine,
>and so I thought, "Right!  Let's take this guy!".

[Incidents of drag racing omitted.]

>At the final set of lights, he made the "time-out" sign (you know, hands
>together to form a "T") and I nodded.  Then he pulled out his wallet
>and flashed his cop's shield.  Oops.  Should have seen the smirk on
>his face!  No ticket, though, thank the lord.

Yeah, it would have been fun to take the sucker to court on an
entrapment charge. ;-)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: kspousta@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Kevin Spousta)
Subject: Deer whistles
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:50:31 GMT


Welp, I've come across a solution to the "deer in the road" problem..
I put a gnarly brush guard/push bar on the front of my truck..  <grin>


Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Subject: Re: Consequences of getting a ticket
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:44:42 GMT

In article <LOWRY.92Aug12133414@rotor.watson.ibm.com> lowry@watson.ibm.com (Andy Lowry) writes:
>I'm sure it varies from state to state, but at least in N.Y. I don't
>think you can take the course "instead of" paying the ticket.  You pay
>the ticket, then you take the course to remove "points" from your
>record and to entitle you to some insurance discounts.  

that will depend on the judge; some judges will offer to sit on the
ticket for a month, and if you take defensive driving, they'll keep the
points off your ticket.  this happens fairly regularly in this area,
_if_ you have a lawyer who understands the system, or if you yourself
understand the system (usually you need to talk to the prosecutor
before actually going into court in order to arrange the plea.)

richard
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From: agwiii@fang.att.com (Grayson Walker (660-7949)(12/92))
Subject: Re: Driving 55
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:21:12 GMT

>
Quoting Neil Williams:

>So this idea occurred to me the other day - what if you actually
>started a nationwide movement to drive exactly 55, or less,
>Would the resulting traffic jams and congestion, and loss
>of revenue cause government to wake up and raise the limit?
>The extra beauty is that even cops and government officials
>can't speed when there's 4 lanes of bumper to bumper traffic
>all going 55.  They'd get frustrated pretty fast, I think.
>
Unfortunately, what would happen is a LEO would come up behind you,
flash his lights, or lights and siren, and blast around.

The ONLY hope, if there is a hope, is to VOTE out the people who
created this mess and VOTE in people who are interested in safe,
sane highways.

MG's slogan was "Safety Fast".  Not bad.

Forza!

Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: oyalcin@IASTATE.EDU (Onur Yalcin)
Subject: Re: Tailgaters abound!
Reply-To: oyalcin@IASTATE.EDU (Onur Yalcin)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:17:49 GMT

I have driven in almost all West European countries, like Germany (No speed
Limit!), Italy, France, Belgium, even England where the steering wheel is
misplaced. Above all, my driving experience comes from my place of
growth-Istanbul, which is worldwide known for its chaotic, incredible traffic,
and its aggressive, short tempered taxi drivers. 

All that I found out about tailgating is that it may not be legal, but it IS
legitimate.

A German driver speeding in an empty autobahn with 4 lanes would take the
rightmost lane even if he is going at 215 km/h (135 mph) and he is the only
occupant of the highway.

I find it more inapproppriate to flash lights than to tailgate. The driver ahead
does always have the time to clear the way before I reach him/her. All it takes
is to be in control of what is happening behind you, and act accordingly.
And acting accordingly is by no means applying your brakes! Now THAT is
dangerous. Actually never had I seen such an absurd reaction to tailgating
before I came to US. 

This is the last thing the tailgater should expect, since he should be looking
through your window to see what you are facing. This is what alleviates the
danger of tailgating. 

If you are being tailgated, don't panic and please, NEVER "tap" the brakes. If
you are really disturbed flash your hazard lights (not even the normal lights,
as they could be percieved as brake lamps). If you are determined to overtake
another car but someone is tailgating you, let him know about your intention of
doing so by signalling to the left. 

The tailgater should not do so if the car in front of him does not have a choice
but undergo this unfair treatment. In such a case do what a cosy old Belgian guy
did to me, and put your hands up! I think putting in some humour mellows down
the tension of driving. 

Here is with me another great Tailgater Ilhan, let's ask him his opinion:

ILhan what is your opinion?

- I would flash  my lights...

Why?

- I don't want the person in front of me to brake...
(God No, braking has deterred this man).(Peter, braking does not work)

Do Istanbul Drivers brake when they are tailgated?

- No. But, they would overtake you and then brake hard, for no reason at all, at
times..
(Obviously His testimony doesn't count, the sheer agony of having to drive in
Turkey, has had its permanent effects on his brain)

Thanx sharing your experience with us.
 
_Thank you for giving me the opportunity. I really appreciate it.


Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: O1DOUG@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Doug Miller)
Subject: Re: reliable cars
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:47:47 GMT

 Consumer Reports generally rates Toyotas, Hondas, and Mazdas high on
dependability. As far as repairs they can be expensive, and that is
usually the delema about buying foreign. Are these cars going to break
down so much less that it is worth the extra cost in repairs? American
cars are not rated as high but are gaining. Mercurys are the highest
rated but their emphasis is more toward luxury and mid-sizes to large
cars.Saturns are doing well and is gaining a reputation on dependability.
But Saturns don't have to many varieties of cars, few dealerships, and
I believe a waiting list for new cars. I would strongly advise against
a Yugo, you get what you pay for. I almost forgot CR also rates Nissan
high. Not to many German motor companies seem to have small economy cars
for a reasonable price, they tend more toward luxury or performance.
I hope I have helped, and I wish you luck. Doug
From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:20:09 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <23936@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ron Bense) 
writes:
> In the DC area, there's somewhere between 5-8 million, *plus the north-south
> traffic of I-95. On any night, when they close one lane of the freeway
> (or 2, if they're really being pains-in-the-butt) you could have 5-20
> mile backups at 11 or midnight. Rush hour on I-95 south of DC starts
> somewhere around 4:30 - 5 AM, at least the earliest bumper to bumper
> back-up I've seen on it was 20 miles long by 5 AM. I-66, the only other
> freeway, isn't much better, nor is the beltway.

My gosh!  I didn't think there was worse traffic than what we've got!
Ya got the Bay area beat, except when we get a backup over the mountains
into Santa Cruz for the requisite daily crash on Highway 17.


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com
SHO  GOZE
From: khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:50:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bt9Boy.Hu2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

ahm@spatula.rent.com (Andreas Meyer) writes:

>> I haven't [flashed a trucker] in years, however, since
>> I'm usually travelling a wee bit faster than the trucks are. ;-)

>Must be nice not to travel during rush hour...

Well, around here it's a) more like rush MINUTE, and b) my commute doesn't
involve any freeways, and you don't see too many big semis cruising down 
residential sidestreets. ;-)

--
Scott Coleman                                                    tmkk@uiuc.edu

Free Advice: It is inadvisable to read Bush's lips at an official banquet.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Subject: Re: RADAR JAMMER
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 20:01:00 GMT

In article <93704@bu.edu> antoniou@buitc.bu.edu (George Antoniou) writes:
>Someone on the net is selling a Radar JAmmer unit, which was produced by
>Cincinati Microwave.  A passport is hooked up to the unit,  it serves as
>an activator switch.  ONce the Passport goes off the jammer switches on
>and can jam x and k bands.  The radar reader will either shut down or
>display a speed set by the jammer.  

i would be very, VERY suprised if CMI ever sold such a product; i've
been a CMI customer for a long time now, and have never seen such a
product advertised.  i have seen ads from small (usually short lived)
companies selling conversions done to CMI detectors.  the one test
of such commercially available units that i'm familiar with suggested
that they are not terribly reliable (this is not to say that a useful
one isn't possible, but only that the ones that used to be for sale
weren't particularly useful.)

>I thought jammer are illegal...  
>Don't jammer have limited range...?

jammers are illegal in certain contexts, and are grey areas in other
contexts.  the FCC has rules about radio transmitters that casual
jamming may well violate, although licensed amateur operators apparently
can skirt these.  however, an officer who figures out what is going
on can probably make someone caught with a jammer fairly miserable,
given that there are various and sundry laws about interfering with
a police officer performing his duties.  you pays your money and you
takes your chances.

richard
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos
From: agupta@agupta.enet.dec.com (Abhijit Gupta)
Subject: WASHINGTON DC PARKING TICKET Limit before been booted or towed ?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 13 AUG 92 16:55:31


I received two parking tickets on separate occasion while visiting Washington
DC in the last one year. I am planning to take my car again this week and I
was wondering after how many tickets do the authorities start putting the
boot or start towing the car.

If two tickets are too many then I would rather rent a car rather
than risk my car. By the way I had appealed both the cases but I lost both
the times. I understand that the response gathered here would be speculative
but I still would like to know when do the cops start getting nasty. Please
don't flame this note.

Abhijit


Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking)
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Organization: National Commitee to Keep Slower Traffic Right
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:43:39 GMT

In article <16p1fcINNohr@agate.berkeley.edu> shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:

>I travel on the I-5 quite a bit this past year, and I noticed that the 
>people who usually do this in the left lane think that they ARE going
>fast.  There are signs all over the I-5 saying that the max. speed
>limit is 65 MPH.  In addition, there are also signs which say
>slow traffic move to the right... or something like that.  Since most
>of these people cruise at around 70 or 75, they naturally think that
>they are the "faster" traffic, thus deserving the left lane.

Gosh, I forget the original creator of this idea...  If you're out
there, I'm sorry!  Someone said a few months ago that the
signs should be changed to, "People with unusually large genitalia
keep right."  Or, "People with huge breasts keep right."  It'd
solve that problem in a hurry, eh?  8^)


>Another observation:  the right lane appears to be more bumpy than
>the left lane.  anyone know why?

Trucks.  And more traffic in the right lane, anyway.

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From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Date: 18 Aug 1992 05:06:36 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <133678@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ari@viipuri.nersc.gov (Ari Ollikainen) writes:
>Nope. You get to go to traffic school... In fact you get ordered to *GO*
>to traffic school [ at least in Alameda County ]. *BUT* the ticket still
>counts as 1 point...instead of 2 points!
>
Really!! my friend got stopped in the Ventura County area going around
100+ (BUT got cited for 99).  He wasn't ordered to go to traffic school.
In fact, he tried to go to traffic school, but he was prevented from doing
so by the judge.  (Judge wouldn't let him.)  

Do such laws vary from county to county?

David Shy
shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman)
Subject: Re: Illegal Acceleration?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:58:18 GMT

jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost) writes:

>In NH these actions are prosecuted by two different laws.  The obvious
>one is reckless driving, which would certainly apply to full
>accelleration at an intersection for no reason -- if something
>appeared in your path (a likely thing at an intersection) you'd have a
>hard time avoiding it.  The other law is misuse of power, which is
>usually used to prosecute people for burning out.

"Misuse of power?" Hmm... Ya think maybe George Bush and a few other politicos
have gotten a few of those tickets? ;-)

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Free Advice: It is inadvisable to read Bush's lips at an official banquet.
From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:02:13 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <16p1fcINNohr@agate.berkeley.edu>, shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David 
S. Shy) writes:
> I usually
> go around 80 or 85, (but I don't think I will this weekend, since a friend
> who just recently drove on the freeway tipped me about an unusually amount
> of police activity...)  But even at this speed, I've been "blown away"
> a couple times.  

I guess I should warn you about the silver Mustang interceptor the 
CHP is driving out around Buttonwillow then...

I normally drive at 75 in my Honda and 80 to 85 in the SHO on I-5, and
the people this weekend in the left lane were doing about 65 to 70.
I saw very little police activity when I went through Sunday as far
as Lost Hills from Gorman.

What I wonder is why long strings of cars collect in the left lane doing
70 MPH when the right lane is wide open for large distances.  Seems to
me that people ought to drive in the right lane unless the car in front
of them is going slower and they need to pass.  if everyone did this on
two lane freeways, I think things would move much more efficiently.

In my view you would pass in the left lane but cruise in the right lane.

Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com
SHO  GOZE
From: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Flashing to Pass: An Observation
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:40:03 GMT
Reply-To: tpickett@auspex.com (Tom Pickett)
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.  Engineering

In article <1992Aug21.174438.25535@leland.Stanford.EDU>, 
tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes:
> p.s. i bet traffic would move a lot faster if the drivers got
> zapped every time they touched the brake.

This has possibilities!!!!!!!


Tom Pickett 
tpickett@auspex.com
SHO  GOZE
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