HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Texas gas explosion
Summary: Give it a rest, Packer.
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:45:19 GMT

In article <9APR199208111284@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov> packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>The New York Times had a story in Wednesday's edition
>headlined "Gas Explosion Tears Through Texas Farmland".
>
>It seems that liquified petroleum gas leaked out of a pipeline
>and, being heavier than air flowed downhill into a valley.
>This "cool, heavy cloud" allegedly exploded with such force
>that it "rattled buildings 70 miles away and was heard
>140 miles away."  And, almost needless to say, it allegedly
>killed "a six-year-old boy," as well as doing some other
>damage.

Would you like to tell that boy's family about his "alleged" death?  It
rattled buildings at least 65 miles away, because I live out in west Houston
about that far from the Brenham Oilfield site where it happened -- and it
was strong enough to wake me up.  Are you going to say that four million
people here imagined they heard an "alleged" explosion?  "Alleged", my ass.

>I've read in books on explosion damage assessment that
>the key to a forceful gas explosion is confinement. Explosion
>force is greatly attenuated the more sources of ventilation
>there are. This "explosion" allegedly occurred in open air.

Which it did, and it's almost a shame that YOU weren't there when it
happened...

>Well, there's a photo that's just as implausible as the story.
>it shows, in the middle of a scene of rubble outdoors in bright
>daylight, a man standing in stark black silhouette, with lots of
>brightly lit objects in front of and behind him. And it looks
>like the folks in the photo lab diddled with the contrast level
>of the trees in the background too, to make one tree stand out
>starkly.
>
>The message in the photo is: this is a hoax. Once again, the
>first page of news designated "National" by the Times looks like
>the "Flaky Page", as it often has in the past. 

Well, why don't you exert some effort for once and come on down here and see
for yourself -- or would that be too much trouble because it just might
conclusively prove that you have no earthly idea what you're talking about?
Be sure and tell those burn victims at Hermann Hospital here that their
injuries are "alleged", too...I'm sure they'll appreciate your concern.

-- 
Patrick L. Humphrey  (patrick@is.rice.edu)  Rice Networking & Computing Systems
  +1 713 528-3626 at Rice. 713 776-1541 at home. 713 527-4056 at Willy's Pub.
    *"The opinions expressed by Patrick do not necessarily represent those
             of Rice staff, management, or any living person."*
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From: DSPWorld@world.std.com (Amnon Aliphas)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.misc,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Want facts?  "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  The Alarming Facts"
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:49:30 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA


Doesn't  "Ralph Winston" and his "Kamaraden" remind you of Goebbels?

He would have been proud of them.

So what is next "Ralph", the final solution?


 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

ken yovdu kol oyvecha Israel


	Amnon Aliphas
From: melindac@thedarktower.Corp.Sun.COM (I'm a Stairmasters Junkie)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: re EURO DISNEY: Cultural Imperialism?
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:56:59 GMT
Reply-To: melindac@thedarktower.Corp.Sun.COM (I'm a Stairmasters Junkie)
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: thedarktower.corp.sun.com


	ta@slc1.UUCP (Tony Alicea) :
	> The resort, 18 miles east of Paris, covers more than 4,800
	> acres, about two-thirds not yet developed. 
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

That's not so unusual. It just means they've still got room to grow.

	> A strict dress code bans men from
	> wearing beards, and restricts women's choices of jewelry, makeup and
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It is well-known that Disney has strict dress codes for their employees
at *ALL* of their parks, which includes Disneyland in Anaheim, CA, 
Disneyworld in Orlando, FL, and Disneyland in Japan. They are not asking
their French employees to do anything that they are not already asking
their other employees to do.

	> With greetings from a bilingual Mickey
                                ^^^^^^^^^ [WHY NOT QUADRI-
	> LINGUAL OR MORE?]

Because as it says later in the article: 

	> English and French predominate, but most major
        > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	> Western European languages appear in announcements at 
	> big attractions. 


	> But many French intellectuals bemoaned the invasion of American 
	> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	> pop culture.
	> ^^^^^^^^^^^^

So what? You seem to be bemoaning the fact that Disney has built a park
in France as if they forced themselves on the French people. I doubt
Disney would consider spending that much money if they weren't wanted
in the first place. Obviously, enough French people wanted it.

	> "I dreamed of going to the Disney parks in the United States," 
	> said Jean-Charles Loty, 11, of Paris. "It's great we've got the 
	> same thing here now." 

Apparently, not everyone feels the way you do.

	Melinda
 
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.misc,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc,alt.revisionism
From: jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Subject: Re: Want facts?  "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  The Alarming Facts"
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41
	<1992Apr14.192835.23490@muddcs.claremont.edu>
	<JIME.92Apr14165943@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu>
	<1992Apr14.232215.21465@colorado.edu>
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:01:16

In article <1992Apr14.232215.21465@colorado.edu> perlman@qso.Colorado.EDU (perlman eric) writes:
>   In article <JIME.92Apr14165943@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
>   >Both, actually.  The mere occupation goes against UN resolutions.  And
>   >there are considerable injustices going on as a result of the occupation.
>
>   Jim, this has been discussed before in tpm.  The occupation does not go
>   against international law.  There have been a number of GA resolutions
>   railroaded through which demanded a unilateral end to the occupation,
>   but UNGA resolutions don't have the force of international law, and also
>   those resolutions contradict the wording of UNSC 242 and 338, which talk
>   about territorial compromise as a part of a peace plan, not unilateral
>   withdrawal.
>
>   Certainly I don't approve of everything going on in the territories, but
>   let's get our facts straight.

The occupation, as I clearly wrote above, goes against UN resolutions.
Your posting agrees with me on this count.  Why do you admonish me to
get my facts straight, if we agree?

242 and 338, if I remember correctly, do ask for territorial
compromise, which is a code phrase for trading land for peace.
As Israel occupies the land, it is clear that Israel would have to
withdraw from at least part of the occupied territories under these
resolutions.

As for whether the UNSC or UNGA resolutions hold the force of
international law, well, international law doesn't have much force
anyway, so I don't know what this argument buys you.

The way the occupation is being run (deportation of elements of the
local populace, construction of permanent settlements, ...) also goes
against the Geneva Convention.
--
=Jim  jime%atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.abortion,dc.general,soc.singles
From: cookc@aix.rpi.edu (rocker)
Subject: Re: Crowd size at AnyGathering
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:21:58 GMT

kendall@adobe.com (Janice Kendall) writes:

> drieux, haven't you heard this old joke?...

> Know why women can't judge distance?

>      Because they're always told 

>	  this much:  |--thumb-n-forefinger-measure--|

>		is 10 inches.    :-0   ;-)

Nah, that's not it.  ;-)

It's because all my engineering calculations are in meters, and microns,
and angstroms - and all the road signs, and my speedometer, and my 
American maps (but not my Canadian ones) are in miles and inches and
such, and I always stop to do the conversions (a meter is sort of a yard,
but bigger, and a yard is three feet, and i hate multiplying by 3 in my
head, and an inch is 2.54 cm and try multiplying by 2.54...) and then by
the time I've tried to do the estimate in one system, and convert to the
other, and I never have my trusty Casio fx-7000G when I need it, and by
then I've forgotten what it was I was supposed to be judging.

> Janice Kendall 

                -rocker
                 who deserves at least a nomination for run-on sentence
                 of the month
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From: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.abortion,dc.general
Subject: Re: Crowd size at abortion rights march
Date: 11 Apr 92 18:56:09 GMT
Reply-To: bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense)
Followup-To: misc.headlines
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In talk.abortion, packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:

>Estimating the size of the crowd from the ground was easier than
>for a lot of demonstrations. The stationary crowd was seated on
>the Mall in a rectangular area. I looked at the densest clusters
>of people and it looked like 10 people per 100 square feet, and

Densest clusters had 10 people per 100 sq.ft?

>that's being generous.  Then I estimated the ratio of open grass
>to seated people in the various sectors of the Mall. Where
>people were standing, I called that 20 people per 100 square

Standing areas had 20 per 100 sq. ft.?.....

Hold it....I see a definite problem with your math here. I saw the rally
on TV, and 20 per 100 sq. ft. (about the size of a medium bedroom in
a house in the D.C. area) would still not account for the shoulder to
shoulder jamm packed view I saw.

Not only that, but how did the densest areas have less than the standing
areas?

Leave the counting to those who supposedly have some expertise in this
area. I'd go with the 500,000 (which I think was probably a little low)
before I'd even think of listening to your number.

Ron
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From: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.misc,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: King David Hotel bombing
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:58:01 GMT
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

In article <JIME.92Apr14103413@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

# In article <1992Apr14.050948.24611@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

# >   In article <JIME.92Apr13011518@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

# >   # I guess your definition of terrorist act is different from most
# >   # people's.  The bombing of the King David Hotel is considered one of
# >   # the top terrorist actions of the era.

# >	   Very few people, even among those who mistakenly called the Irgun
# >   and Stern gangs terrorists, label that bombing as terrorist.  You
# >   obviously do not know even the most elementary details of that
# >   incident.
 
# Au contraire, Pierre.  The King David Hotel bombing was clearly a
# terrorist action.  A military action wouldn't have been preceded by a
# telephone call telling the people to get out.  (In this case, some may
# find it curious that a military action would have been more brutal,
# but c'est la guerre.)

	You are being an imbecile here.  Let us assume for the sake of
argument that the King David hotel bombing was not a military action.
That still does not make it a terrorist action.
--

David Makowsky
makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu
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From: sasha@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alexander.kostomaroff)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.misc,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: IHR Scores Stunning Victory in $11 Million Mermelstein Trial!
Summary: Keep the good company, Ralph!
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:23:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

Ralph Winston of "Banished CPU" ends his verbose diatribe
	"IHR Scores Stunning Victory in $11 Million Mermelstein Trial!"
with a quote from Nietzsche:
	"What does not destroy me, makes me stronger".

How appropriate, Ralph! Good old Adolf H. used to repeat the same line quite
often.

Tell me with whom you share your one-liners and I tell you where are you
from.

Bye-bye, Parteigenosse Winston! Sieg Heil!


Alexander Kostomaroff
Observer Of Passing Events, Falling Empires, and Human Follies.
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From: rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.misc,talk.politics.misc,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  WHAT A STUPID QUESTION.
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:21:00 GMT
	<RJC.92Apr14201117@brodie.cstr.ed.ac.uk>
	<15APR199207111237@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research

In article <15APR199207111237@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>, Charles Packer (cp) writes:

cp> It's of the greatest interest, for example, that the NY Times, the
cp> most influential news medium in the U.S., has been controlled by a
cp> single family since 1896.

Why is that of interest? You can read it or not. You can believe it or
not. Who owns it is irrelevent to anyone but the stock market and the
satire writers.

Most British (national) newspapers are owned by a couple of companies,
one owned by a strange Ausie, one used to be owned by a currently dead
fraudster. This doesn't bother people because people wouldn't trust
them no matter who owns them.

Niel Kinnock was (rightly) peeved at the very biased coverrage of
Labour and him in particular in the tabloids. However, while I think
it is irritating that they can get away with such bias, I don't think
it is worrying. Even Sun readers aren't daft enough to believe a word
of it.

I presume you don't believe what the NYT tells you without
documentation. People who do probably also believe in bombers on the
moon and are too worried about Elvis eating their children to pay much
attention to slight bias in the NYT.

--
rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk			_O_
					 |<
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.abortion,dc.general,soc.singles
From: kendall@adobe.com (Janice Kendall)
Subject: Re:  Crowd size at AnyGathering
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:00:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.221258.10123@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>Functionally folks, its sorta like the matter of
>Calculating the size of One's ThrobbingManHood.
>
>Men tend to calculate with one methodology, women with another,
>for reeasons that we are still unable to understand.....
>
>ciao
>drieux
>
>ps: I guess its a Matter of Who Owns the Correct
>Method Of Calculation.....
>
>
>
>-- 
>EOT 
>No More Written InPut 
>Why are you Looking Here?
>


 drieux, haven't you heard this old joke?...

 Know why women can't judge distance?

      Because they're always told 

	  this much:  |--thumb-n-forefinger-measure--|

		is 10 inches.    :-0   ;-)
   
 Janice Kendall 

        "Giving power and money to the government is like giving 
         whiskey and car keys to teenage boys."  

		- P.J. O'Rourke, former gulf war correspondant, summing
		up what he learned during two years of research on how
		our government functions.
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
From: jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Subject: Re: Want facts?  "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  The Alarming Facts"
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41
	<1992Apr12.071221.2718@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
	<JIME.92Apr13005028@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu>
	<1992Apr14.052115.24889@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:00:58

In article <1992Apr14.052115.24889@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:
>   # >   # 2.  After the populace fled, any farmers etc returning to their lands
>   # >  # were arrested or shot.
>
>   # >	   At least you admit that many fled, and were not forced.  Almost
>   # >   none were shot when they did not instigate, and when they were shot,
>   # >   there was substantial reason to believe there was a threat.  I do not
>   # >   know of any that were arrested, but some were deported (is that what
>   # >   you mean by arrested?).
>
>   # Many were forced to flee.
>
>	   This was a small percentage of those that fled.

This is nonsense.  People don't flee just on a whim.  They flee from
something.  In this case, from the Jewish attacks.  Even an IDF report
of the time estimated that about two-thirds of the Arab population
that fled did so as a direct result of the attacks by the Jews.

>   # Many were shot when they tried to harvest
>   # the crops from their own land.  Does that count as instigation?
>
>	   Nope (to both the question and the statement).  Some were
>   deported, those that were shot either commited acts of violence, or
>   else gave good reason to believe they were going to.

This is a brutal form of justice, when those suspected of perhaps
being violent in the future are shot in advance.  Some of the
Holocaust was justified in this manner.

>   # Most [Arab] villages [that were demolished by the Jews in 1948] were
>   # dynamited after they were abandoned by the Arabs, and thus presented
>   # no more danger to the Israelis.
>
>	   But they would have been a danger had they remained and the Arabs
>   came back to them.

Nonsense.  Some of these Arab villages lived in harmony with the Jews
for decades.  Again, this was a brutal form of justice, the demolition
of whole villages based on suspicion of future crimes, and delineated
by racism.


--
=Jim  jime%atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
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From: sasha@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alexander.kostomaroff)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.misc,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: (Control of the News Media)
Summary: Birds of Feather Stick Together
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:06:48 GMT
Organization: AT&T

IN THE CASE SOMEBODY MISSED THE MOMENT ON A NEW SPIRITUAL ALLIANCE
BEING BORN, I'M POSTING A COPY OF A SOUL CRY FROM George Hassoun TO
ralph "The Nazi" winston:
__________________________________________________________________
>>From: ghassoun@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Hassoun)
>>
>>Hello Ralph,
>>I tried to contact you through private e_mail, my letter bounced
>>back.
>>Could you please post me (by e_mail) a copy of your recent article about
>>the control of the media in the States?
>>George Hassoun
>>University of Adelaide, EEE Dpt.
>>Adelaide, South Australia
>>email: ghassoun@eleceng.adelaide.edu.au      Phone:(08) 228 5468

FOLKS, REJOICE !!!
__________________________________________________________________

Alexander Kostomaroff
Observer Of Passing Events, Falling Empires, and Human Follies.
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,soc.misc,alt.revisionism
From: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: (Control of the News Media)
Reply-To: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago, Dept of Molecular Genetics
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:01:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.033648.10667@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU>, ghassoun@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (George Hassoun) writes:
>
>Hello Ralph,
>I tried to contact you through private e_mail, my letter bounced
>back.

>George Hassoun
>University of Adelaide, EEE Dpt.
>Adelaide, South Australia
>email: ghassoun@eleceng.adelaide.edu.au      Phone:(08) 228 5468

George,
If you actually succeed in communicating with 'Ralph Winston', will
you please ask his real name, and try to find out why he distributes
anti-Semitic white-supremicist literature on the net?

Thanx.

Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
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From: JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: misc.headlines
Subject: H. Ross Perot
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:38:00 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

Given the current excitement over Perot's arrival onto the presidential
scene, I haven't seen too much negative information about Perot.  So I
decided to raise some of my concerns about him here.  I work at GM and
Mr. Perot, as you'll recall, came into GM on his white stallion and was
going to save us all.  (Sound familiar?)
He claimed that GM was inefficient and clumsy and He would correct it.
He was very accurate in his attacks.  He was very inefficient and clumsy in his
actions.  He is a good talker, but a poor "corrector".  All the problems he
found in GM, he compared to the wonderful work at his own company, EDS.
EDS has been the biggest mistake GM has made (hard to fathom, eh?) in
decades.  It is staffed by people who don't have any experience in computers
and yet it is supposed to be Perot's solution to GM's problem.  We end up
solving most of our own problems.  I've had to show them such difficult
things as how to look up error messages in printer manuals, etc.  Perot
talks a nice story and sounds like Jimmy Stewart or some lovable guy.
His actions are far from his words.

I also hope that the story of his personal airport comes out
in the press.  He portrays himself as protector of the taxpayer.  His
dealings with Jim Wright and pork barrel politics suggest he is anything
but interested in the taxpayer's protection.  He is good at belittling
the government, but he didn't seem to have any problem at all with
abusing the system to get an airport placed near his property that basically
services him and his family.  And you payed for it.
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From: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.misc,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Want facts?  "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  The Alarming Facts"
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:46:37 GMT
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

In article <JIME.92Apr13012616@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

# In article <1992Apr12.071917.2928@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

# >   In article <JIME.92Apr12012706@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

# >   # >	   However, Israel
# >   # >   is the first local non imperial "power" to allow freedom of religious
# >   # >   expression.

# >   # Now as for the rest of your claim, it is so restrictive as to be
# >   # meaningless.  Jerusalem has been under the control of various
# >   # non-local governments for centuries.  Just which government are you
# >   # comparing the present Israeli government with?  Not the British
# >   # government.  Not the Ottoman Empire.  Not the Crusaders.  Not the
# >   # Byzantine Empire.  Not the Roman Empire.  Not the Babylonians.  Not
# >   # the Assyrians.  Perhaps the ancient Israelites, who were local after a
# >   # fashion, and were hardly religiously tolerant.
 
# >	   How petty can you get?  Fine.  I will amend my statement to be for
# >   modern history.  Capish?
 
# You still haven't answered the question.  Let me summaraze what I
# think you are saying: "Israel is the first local non-imperial power in
# modern history to allow freedom of religious expression."
 
# My question is: What other local (to Jerusalem, I guess)

	Your guess is correct.

# non-imperial
# power in modern history are you comparing Israel to?
 
	All of them (which means any Middle Eastern country that has
controlled it).
--

David Makowsky
makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu