HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: DRZ%SJUVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Bob Zenhausern)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Reading Disability Conference
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:48:10 GMT
Reply-To: DRZ%SJUVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU (Bob Zenhausern)
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25557

[This is from the ALTLEARN mailing list]

I mentioned a teleconference out of Sasketchewan that Anne Pemberton and
I have started.  If anyone is interested in observing and asking questions
(moderated) send a message to: listserv@udevdiv.unibase.sk.ca
with the message: sub nld-reading Your Name

Except for my original message which has been appended no other messages
have been posted, so you will have missed nothing.

A blind many walks into a restaurant with a seeing eye dog.
After a bit he grabs the dog by the tail and starts swinging
it over his head.  The waiter runs up to him and says, "What
are you doing?"   The blind man responds, "Just looking
around."

The story may be funny, but what does it have to do with
reading disability?  I want all of you to look around --
inside your head.  To pay attention to your though processes
because the major point I want to make is that people think in
different ways and reading disability can be linked to two
very specific and non-pervasive cognitive deficits.  You may
not be able to eliminate the deficits by remediation, but you
can use rehabilitation to provide alternative approaches.

You know where we are headed.  Let's get started.

I want each of you to describe how you think.  Not in abstract
terms like, "I associate..."; but in sensory metaphors, "I
see..; I hear..: I say...", etc.  If you do not have sensory
metaphors (which, by the way might be lumped under the term
"mental imagery") talk about that.  You know how we tell the
kids, "There are no right and wrong answers"?  Well this time,
it is true.  There are not right and wrong ways to think;
whatever you do is right.

Bob Zenhausern, Ph.D.        Internet: drz@sjuvm.stjohns.edu
St. John's University        Bitnet: drz@sjuvm.bitnet
SB 15 Marillac               Phone:  718-990-6447
Jamaica, NY 11439            Fax:    718-990-6705
From: Carol.Ashland@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Ashland)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: me and my doggie
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:37:32 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Ashland@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/56 - The Overworked Drag, Portland OR
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25454

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Well, Bill, you finally did it.  You made it all the way through the
training, and ended up with a special, wonderful dog!  I am so happy for
you.  The relationship between a person and his dog guide is very special.
I continue to be proud of my dog, I never take his good work for granted.
If I do, I hope someone will remind me that it's not to be taken for
granted.  The dogs need lots of praise; after all, that's what they work
for.  So how tall is Maxine?  How much does she weigh?  Does she eat well?
Is she sensitive and needs little correction, or do you occasionally have to
get firm with her, or a little of both?  Have you worked her much in your
home area yet?  It's exciting, and a bit scary, to start working in the home
area, alone, with no instructor anywhere near to ask questions.

Carol

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From: v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy McCarthy)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Weather problems II
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:49:24 GMT
Reply-To: v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy McCarthy)
Organization: University at Buffalo
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25561

Tim.Syfert@p0.f119.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Syfert) writes:

> GW> and sunny I don't leave the house much... So Seattle isn't the
> GW> greatest for that... Masybe North Arizona, Mid California. Some place
> GW> sunny, warm, and dry... ===
>
>Northern Arizona gets pretty cold. Snow is very common there in the
>winter. Phoenix to Tucson is a better bet as far as winters go. No
>snow, at least it's really rare. BUT, you get basically stuck in
>the house for about 4-5 months because of the 100+ temps in the
>summer, but at least your always comfortably warm because you can
>always adjust the air conditioner for comfort. When the sun goes
>down its not too bad outside at all. Being a quad, I'd much rather
>be stuck inside because its too hot outside than too cold. From the
>"Valley of the Sun".......

     OUCH BABE!!!

Describing warm, sunny weather over INTERNET to sufferers of the
COLD & FLU season.  How Hearless!
You must be a Republican!

Seriously,
I am interested in weather problems from both sides, and had some questions.

For those living in warm (relatively) climates, how did you get
there?    Born there?    Moved before a disability?
After developing a disability?

If after, did you move with family or friends?    Alone?
Did you move to where family or friends lived?

If not, how did you manage the move and transition?
Were you on any public assistance?
Did you do much research as to where to move and how to set
up support service?

For those who live in cold climates and HATE IT.
What are some major reasons for not moving?
Have you ever investigated what it would take to move?
Do you plan to?

Any other comments would be welcomed.
Living in Buffalo and hating it during the winter, I find this
a fascinating topic.
BTW, are discussions like this one, especially on this topic,
discussed on any other newsgroups?  I would love to hear about
them.

Please send all replies to v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
unless you feel it is newsgroup worthy.

Thanx for the input. (too much time around computers, I gotta get
out more.)
Look forward to hearing from you.

Timothy McCarthy
T Mac
From: janina@netcom.com (Janina Sajka)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Disability and the Medical Profession
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:28:22 GMT
Reply-To: janina@netcom.com (Janina Sajka)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25440

We are looking for any information, particularly statistical data,
regarding how the medical profession has treated people with
disabilities.  Our thesis is that is that it has not been
particularly good, but we would like some data to prove or disprove
this thesis.  We are in need of this information ASAP for a grant
From: Pandora.Nigh@p0.f554.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Pandora Nigh)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Now I done it!!!!
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:05:47 GMT
Reply-To: Pandora.Nigh@p0.f554.n157.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/554.0 - Analytical Engine B, Willoughby OH
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25479

 -=> Quoting Bill Gorman to All <=-

     Hi Bill,

 BG> So I finally asked for an accommodation under the ADA - a
 BG> motorized tri-cart or some such so I can get around and do my job.
 BG>
 BG> What will I get - the cart, or the gate?

Sorry to say Bill, you stepped into it this time. ADA doesn't
require an employer to supply and individual with durable medical
equipment.  If you need a wheelchair, tricart, hearing aid,
crutches etc it is your responsibility to get them. Now they can be
good sports and get one for you.  But if there like most place,
hell will freeze over first. Good part is that they can't fire you
for the request, that is covered under ADA.

 BG> If you don't hear from me on this echo again, you will
 BG> know what the answer was.  :-(

      I hope that whether they give you the tricart or not that you stick
    around.
                                   Pandora

... Back up my hard disk? I can't find the reverse switch!
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From: Sergio.Guzman@f7.n3803.z1.fidonet.org (Sergio Guzman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Qmrp
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:06:25 GMT
Reply-To: Sergio.Guzman@f7.n3803.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3803/7 - Circle of Support, New Iberia LA
X-Fidonet: Able News Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25483

[This is from the AbleNews Conference]

->       It does, thank you. Is this similar to what would be called a
-> "case manager"?

A case manager works with clients in about the same way, but
usually the case manager has to go to each of his clients in there
own home setting. His/Her case load may be large and each client
may be in a different home. My job is more structured and all my
clients live in the same area (6 to a home with 3 homes). The staff
does the actual hands on work with the clients and I just watch,
take notes and advise. I then write up objectives or lesson plans
to help reach different goals the individual will be striving to
reach. There are many professionals who work with the clients that
aid me in the deciding what works best for the client but the
ultimate decision comes from the client. He/She controls what is
going to be worked towards and we advise.
			   Sergio

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From: Gary.Petraccaro@f12.n2610.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Petraccaro)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: fragmentation
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:40:17 GMT
Reply-To: Gary.Petraccaro@f12.n2610.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2610/12 - Post Road Inn, Greensburg PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25474

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

     Try VOPT from Golden Bow:

Golden Bow Systems
2665 Ariane Dr.
 Suite 207
San Diego, CA 92117
(800) 284-3269

___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

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From: Carl.Thomas@f5.n3647.z1.fidonet.org (Carl Thomas)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: TINYTALK
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:38:29 GMT
Reply-To: Carl.Thomas@f5.n3647.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3647/5 - Equalizer, Sumter SC
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25461

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Eric

I have been using TinyTalk with Procomm Plus V2.0. TinyTalk ver
1.30 runs good. I found a quirk in V1.31 though. If auto popup
windows are selected it will lockup Procomm. This is using an 8088
PC with a V20 cpu in it and the ECHO PC. I was amazed at how well
TinyTalk and Procomm Plus 2.0 get along with default configuration.
The window setting didn't seem to bother 1.30.

Cheers!

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From: Carl.Zebooker@p7.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Carl Zebooker)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: computer questions
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:38:52 GMT
Reply-To: Carl.Zebooker@p7.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/349.7 - PerManNet 2400, Washington DC
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25464

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

CZ>> Hang in there.  Once DESQview is working properly, it will have
CZ>> been worth all the hassles.
TY> I am having a problem and would appreciate help.  If I
TY> load speech into more than one window it only remains
TY> active in the last window.

That is the case with ZoomText, my text magnification TSR.
It will work in exactly one window at at time.  I have
gotten in the habit of turning magnification "off" before
switching windows.

I load ZoomText from my AUTOEXEC.BAT file before calling the
batch file which loads DESQview.  Then I am able to turn
magnification "on" and "off" using Alt-Ins and Alt-Del
respectively.

You may be able to do this with your speech; ask your vendor
or consult your documentation.  I hate to tell you to RTM,
but am pretty ignorant where speech synthesis is concerned.

Please accept my apology for the delay in replying.  I've
been out of town the last three weeks.

Carl Z.

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From: Nick.Allan@f395.n634.z3.fidonet.org (Nick Allan)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Voice under unix?/vms
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:38:44 GMT
Reply-To: Nick.Allan@f395.n634.z3.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 3:634/395
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25463

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hello all
I was wondering if there is any voice software that will work under
 the unix opperating system and the vms opperating system. If so whats
 it called and where can I find more info on it.

Regards Nick

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From: Tim.Syfert@p0.f119.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Syfert)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: weather problems? wha
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:08:57 GMT
Reply-To: Tim.Syfert@p0.f119.n114.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/119.0 - Flea Circus, Phoenix AZ
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25500

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 GW> and sunny I don't leave the house much... So Seattle isn't the
 GW> greatest for that... Masybe North Arizona, Mid California. Some place
 GW> sunny, warm, and dry... ===

Northern Arizona gets pretty cold. Snow is very common there in the
winter. Phoenix to Tucson is a better bet as far as winters go. No snow,
at least it's really rare. BUT, you get basically stuck in the house for
about 4-5 months because of the 100+ temps in the summer, but at least
your always comfortably warm because you can always adjust the air
conditioner for comfort. When the sun goes down its not too bad outside
at all. Being a quad, I'd much rather be stuck inside because its too
hot outside than too cold. From the "Valley of the Sun".......

                                             Tim

                                             82 deg. today   11/2

... Just testing this tagline....

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From: John.Rougeau@p4.f184.n132.z1.fidonet.org (John Rougeau)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: weather problems? wha
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:08:40 GMT
Reply-To: John.Rougeau@p4.f184.n132.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:132/184.4 - The Bulldog BBS !, Hudson NH
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25498

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

In a message of <Oct 30 13:01>, Greg Wick (1:343/45) writes vaguely:

CS>I'm 50 - C4-5 quad since '76.  Consider this:  Are you sure you
CS>want warm?  I find heat & humidity far more oppressive than cold
CS>since I don't sweat.  Also consider that you are really in '24-hr'

 >I like the heat but not the humidity. The wet air always makes me colder.

Me too (I'm a C5-6 quad)!

 >Dry heat is real good. I would rather be to hot then to cold, with in
 >reason. When I'm cold, I get tence, I spazm more, I get a stiff neck,  and
 >get tierd. When I'm hot, I get tierd, and lightheaded, and sometimes feal
 >like I'm not getting enough air to breath. But over all I like heat.

I get all tense, knotted muscles....even depression, from being cold!  I know
just what you mean...(living in NH)

 I
 >always wear a turtle neck, a sweater, and have the wood stove going. No
 >one can stand being in the same room... It's to hot. I'm a C-4-5 quad
 >since 82, I do like the sun. I feal more like doing thing and going
 >places. When It's not warm and sunny I don't leave the house much... So

Cold, wet (damp) weather interferes with my "quality of Life".....sigh.....

 >Seattle isn't the greatest for that... Masybe North Arizona, Mid
 >California. Some place sunny, warm, and dry...
 >===

How 'bout NM? AZ? Southern CO?  (Calgon, take me away!)  :-)

-J-J-John

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From: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail Brookhart)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Service dogs
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:38:00 GMT
Reply-To: ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail Brookhart)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25441

Thanks for adding this stuff.  Service dogs are a special interst
of mine as a dog trainer.

--
  Gail Brookhart, Cincinnati, OH  *  usr7513a@tso.uc.edu
Surely one of my addresses works! *  ce293@cleveland.freenet.edu
***********************************  brookhge@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Let me tell you about my dogs! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org (Glen Sepke)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Voice-Friendly Bb Menus
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:37:15 GMT
Reply-To: Glen.Sepke@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:348/2 - Man-Net-EC, Winnipeg MB
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25452

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

PC>Also, I don't have a handle on what visually-impared people might use
PC>computers for that's different from what normally-sighted
PC>people use them for but suspect that there might be
PC>something significant in voice recognition boards and/or
PC>ASCII-to-braille translators combined with a BB that could
PC>supply ASCII text on the right subjects at the right price.

Some of the things I can think of:
Production of Braille from standard ASCII or word processor files,
Access to "current" information through on-line newspapers,
Scanner technology to give access to paper copies of information,
To equalize employment opertunities,
Access to library catalogs,
And as you suggest, ASCII format books which are becoming more and more
available through Recordings for the Blind in New York.

As you hinted at, blind people use their computers to do things that
sighted use them for.  Sometimes, blind people do not have the choice of an
alternative way of doing things: (IE) picking up a paper or balancing a
cheque book by hand.

Kind of general answers, but hope this helps.
- Glen -
___
 X SLMR 2.1a X Mary had a little LAN.  It helped with data flow.

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From: Isaac.Obie@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Isaac Obie)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: jobs, etc.
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:36:40 GMT
Reply-To: Isaac.Obie@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:101/460.0 - VI/BUG, Holbrook MA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25443

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Gary, Parts of greater Boston have rent control--Brookline for instance.
But qualifying fir it is tough cause people stay in those places til
they die and they also give it over to their family members. So, yes,
there's rent control if you can find it.

Isaac

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From: Carol.Ashland@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Ashland)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Clerks in stores
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:37:49 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Ashland@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/56 - The Overworked Drag, Portland OR
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25456

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

GP>       Well, what kind of store and what did you do about it?  Did you
GP>  just
GP>  take a dive or did you go for the manager?  Is it a store you would
GP>  have
GP>  reason to frequent?  You shouldn't just leave a message like that

It was a local grocery store.  I was so stunned that I didn't talk to the
manager.  My overwhelming reaction was shame.  I know that doesn't make
sense, but that's how I felt.  What I did was tell anyone who would listen
about the problem, and eventually the store got in trouble somehow with the
bank.  The manager called me and tried to smooth it over.  I had to use that
store, as it was the only local store, but I hated doing so.

Carol

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From: Doug.Parisian@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Parisian)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: how do you like dec talk
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:38:36 GMT
Reply-To: Doug.Parisian@f2.n348.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:348/2 - Man-Net-EC, Winnipeg MB
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25462

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I hope this is not an intrusion but I though I would throw my three
cents in for what it's worth.  I have used dectalk, accent, artic
200, bns and all things considered--price, articulateness,
indexing, I think the little litetalk stands pretty tall.  My only
concern is that the only program which supports line interrupt is
ASAP.  With line interrupt "striking the shift key to cut the
current line and proceed to the next line) Litetalk can, I find, be
made to move through a document even faster than accent which, to
my knowledge, does not support this feature.  About the only think
I would want from Litetalk is faster response when pressing the
up/down arrows.  The fellow who designed the little beasty
explained to me why it was not possible to speed it up but I, being
a technical moron, do not remember the explanation.

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From: Jim.Jones@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Weather Teller
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:06:35 GMT
Reply-To: Jim.Jones@f5109.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:124/5109 - National Amputee Co, Dallas TX
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25484

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

 JH> I think
 JH> it's because I  feel my foot and all the pains I use to have
 JH> with it.....grin. It has become  my weather teller.

John, I know what you mean. We have a member of our amputee support
group who relates phantom pain to changes in barometric pressure and
temperture. At first I really did not feel that his theory had much
value, but I have changed my mind. Today we have had a cold front come
through and my phantom pain has bothered me.

Also, don't be too tough on Gov. Ann. She is doing the best she can.
I noticed that she is calling the legislature into session to solve
the school finance problems. I wonder how much that will cost us.

Jim Jones

... *******NORTH TEXAS AMPUTEE SUPPORT GROUP (214)289-5775*******

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From: Jeff.Dubois@p666.f266.n163.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Dubois)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Home Sweet Home
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:37:24 GMT
Reply-To: Jeff.Dubois@p666.f266.n163.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:163/266.666 - Vision, Ottawa ON
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25453

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

There's nothing like those first few months at home with your new
buddy.
I know exactly what you're experiencing, and while it may seem a bit
taxing and novel, it will become so second nature in no time that
you'll think you've had your pooch for years!

It goes by very fast as well.  It seems like just last year that Joy
first came home, but she just turned four a couple of weeks ago.

Nice to hear you back with us again.

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