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From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Calling Fergal Somers
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:45:12 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


-- 
What's wrong , afraid to put your e-mail address in ?
All my letters bounced off your address ......

Unfortunately my names as Irash as they come , as my father ,and his
parents were raised in Cork .... and he got the family tree from
somewhere in your god-forsaken country ....

Do not even think about questioning my origins , smart-arse 

what an asshole.
Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
From: aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Steven J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Milw. Grave update (941 accomplices)
Date: 15 Nov 1992 22:10:25 GMT
Organization: Jobs With Peace at UWM
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30

roy@harlqn.co.uk (Roy Badami) writes:
: 
: Could someone who understands these things please explain to an
: ignorant Englishman what all this about curfew is?  Surely you don't
: mean it's illegal to go out at night...?

Yes, in many large US cities there is a curfew on young people, usually
younger than 18 years I believe.  It stems from high-crime areas and having
young people out at night.  I don't if this actually makes any difference,
but in situations like a rave it gives the cops power to charge young people
with something.


______________________________________________________
Steve J. White
my virtual spheres of consciousness can be reached at:
aragorn@convex.csd.uwm.edu
aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Technics Tuntables
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:57:20 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <1992Nov19.192012.16639@csd.uwe.ac.uk> pa_ross@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Mr Rossy) writes:
>
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Universe has been cancelled ?!?!?!?!?!?!@?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
>
>I was looking forward to two E's on that night as well,
>
>					 Fantas'E'
>					=---------=
>
>


And do you know why it was cancelled????
Because they wouldn't let the police manage it.
Well good for Universe.  Thats what i say.
We don't need the poilce there.

I cued up for 2 and a half hours at the Obsession rave at exeter.
And why was i cued up for that long???? on a freezing night i might add.
Because the police were checking every single last person, full check, who
went into the rave.

My advice is this, stay away from raves at teh exhibition centre Clyst St.Mary.
And stay away from Obsession raves.
It was nearly a full scale riot because people were getting irate of cueing in
the freezing cold night.

Long live perception....nicely run, no trouble, no hassle, little cues.

there were 10,000 poeple at the obsession rave and i cued for 2 and a half hours
to get in.  There were 60,000 people scheduled for the Universe rave.
Imgaine the cue for that if it had been dealt with the same way!!!!
Oh and if you didn't get into the building before 1:00 in the morning, you didn
't get in at all!!!!

Respect to Universe for sparing people that.
I have not heard one good word about the Obsession rave.

My friends

U4ia...wasted 72 pounds on 3 tickets for that night....
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: hlow@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Handel Low)
Subject: Desperate Plea!! (sorry, more Tank Girl)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:15:04 EST


Well, I suppose it was the party that had to happen
eventually.  The short version is that someone broke
into my room and plucked my three Tank Girl comics
right off my wall.  These are the Dark Horse reprints
that came out about a year, maybe two years ago.

Of course I'm heartbroken etc. but it's not doing much
good.  Would appreciate any information on how I could
get replacement copies...?

Very much doubtful that I'll be able to replace them,
because none of the dealers here have it and no one I 
know who has it is about to give their's up.

Heard the 1000 bpm Moby today...crazy fresh concept.
Why did I suddenly think of John Cage a few minutes
afterward?

appreciate any help!

handel "savages!!" low
From: mike@delta1.UUCP (mike king)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave compilation
Keywords: Played-out new
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:40:20 GMT
Organization: Delta Systems, Inc.

mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum) writes:
>tinoco@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Antera Tinoco) writes:
>>Hey kids!!!  I have been reading this group for a while and thought I'd
>>venture to ask a question of you reality challenged rave enthusiasts.
>>I bought a "Only For The Headstrong-The Ultimate Rave Compilation" CD
>>today and I was wondering how much this covers of the rave music scene.
>>
>it's good for archival purposes... in other words, can you say
>ANCIENT PLAYED-OUT SHIT?  i have it, and everything on it sounds really
>dated at this point.
>
>yours,m

Hey, Michael, the fellow said he was new to the scene. Why dis' him? Do you
even know where epcot.spdc.ti.com is? He could be located in the boonies
somewhere and the closest record store is Camelot. Where's your peace
love and understanding? Your arrogance doesn't impress me. Get off the
high horse, OK?

Yeah, it's a good historical perspective of some popular songs a while back.
Unfortunately there is so much material that comes out, you would have
to A: Spend a *LOT* of money keeping up, or B: Spend a *LOT* of time
kissing a*s to get free material. Then, you *must* share your music
with everyone you know, and of course, being such good friends, would be
only too happy to re-imburse you for your record expenses and research time
expended in providing them with the coolest music in the universe. Welcome
aboard.

Everybody, give a big hand to (drum roll........)

The NBT Club.
The Next Big Thing Club. Where everyone tries to be cooler than
the next person by claiming to own records that nobody else does, all for
the glory of saying "I told you they were a great band" when they become, 
you guessed it - The Next Big Thing.... Now, of course you *never* mention
all the crap that you had to listen to that really sucked, because, of
course, you never bought it in the first place, right? Oh, and we're all
rich too. (From saving money by not buying all the bad records and CDs that
are out there).

FLAME OFF>>>>>>>>>>>>>>.

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: House of Euphoria complaints
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:21:10 GMT

Yikes.  I wasn't flaming Sho for his criticism of House of Euphoria.
My 'what did you want to do, shoot up heroin in front of everybody
and run around naked' was just a way of asking why he felt so
oppressed by the cops, who didn't seem to be doing much of anything.
I didn't see any of the 'nasty girl' goings-on but we got there
kind of late.

When everybody was jumping up on stage, the ravers were kind of being
obnoxious... follow the leader type of thing.  If I were
renting those lights and music hall I wouldn't want a mob of people
tromping all over the cords and exceeding the weight capacity of the
stage.  That was why they were 'rushing up to the stage as if to
prevent a riot'; the reason the power went out to all the front amps
during Moby's set was because someone tripped on a power cable.  And
I was right there by the stage; the cops didn't do ANYTHING until the
rave security motioned for them to help clear people off.  It didn't
put that much of a damper on things, anyway.

I think you guys have really built up this romanticized image of what
a "REAL RAVE" is supposed to be like and you are going to be
disappointed by everything that doesn't live up to this 'secret
intimate love-sex-drugs hippie dance fest' ideal.  I'm not saying that
cops all around made it better, but considering that they were there,
it seemed like a damn good time was had by most everyone else, and like
I said before, it was obvious that a lot of people were tripping and
there was some pot smoking along the walls too, and the cops and security
turned a blind eye to that, which is far better than what one would have
expected.  Really, this whole 'big brother' thing is a bit far-fetched.
If it was that bad, it would have ended up like Grave.  If it was all too
above-ground for you, throw your own rave.  Doesn't somebody on alt.rave
have a .sig that goes 'how many ravers does it take to change a light
bulb? a hundred, one to change the light bulb and 99 to whine about how
much better the last one was'.  Well, imHo we are lucky to have what we
got and since it was good and fun for 99% of the people there, why bitch
about how it wasn't the way you think a REAL RAVE is supposed to be like?
Sure, it wasn't a step forward for raves, but it sure as hell was better
than sitting on my ass in Columbus all night.

Humbly,
Mike B :)
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mpisano@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael A Pisano)
Subject: Ride needed to House of Euphoria Tonight.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: cmh
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:08:44 GMT

If anyone has extra room in their car, please call Troy at 421-6727.

I was supposed to give him a ride but I don't know if there will be any room 
left in my car.  He will help pay for gas.

Thanks,

micP
From: alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex L. Pace)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: XTC is a METHAMPHETAMINE
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:51:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin


In article <1992Nov12.180407.5784@bradley.bradley.edu> pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:
>:
>:I think that XTC, being an amphetamine derivative

In article <1992Nov13.114839.2723@coe.montana.edu> trailmix@cs.montana.edu
  (Foster) writes:

:>That Ecstacy is an amphetamine derivative is simply untrue.  


Ecstacy is a METHamphetamine,  the only difference in the production of XTC
and the production of speed is the choice of the starting allybenzine.


Alex Pace
From: squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: UK-rave newsgroup: I'm all for it!
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:19:58 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.


-- 
In article <28316@castle.ed.ac.uk>, ekjc13@castle.ed.ac.uk (N McLennan) writes:
|> >In article <#1jq1=+@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
|> >> Maybe a uk-specific rave group would be a good idea after all -- at least
|> >> the rest of us wouldn't have to look at the pointless garbage that's been
|> >> drooling out of several of the UK sites lately.

Take your hardcore garbage and shove it up your ass then !
Part of the fun of dance music is arguing the various points ...
  
|> As for kirk & friends i would never have known that they existed, and
|> hence would not have been able to enter any argument.

Here Here
 
|> As for pointless garbage, there seems to be a large amount eminating
|> from across the pond too. 

You sound like a National Front supporter ......
 
|> Please can we have informative reviews and information. (+ Petty
|> squabbles)
|> 
|> Neil

Hey , you want a petty squable .... ???

	what sort of clothes is that to wear to church ... wash that hair ...
tidy that room .... does your life involve sitting in front of that computer
...dinners ready NOW .... did you use all the petrol ...etc....etc....

And another thing ...etc..etc...

The squabler(??) himself
Stephen Quigg
squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
(Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)
From: ekjc13@castle.ed.ac.uk (N McLennan)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: UK-rave newsgroup: I'm all for it!
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:14:59 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

>In article <#1jq1=+@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>> Maybe a uk-specific rave group would be a good idea after all -- at least
>> the rest of us wouldn't have to look at the pointless garbage that's been
>> drooling out of several of the UK sites lately.
>> 
>> Will you people please take your stupid arguments to email?  This is
>> alt.rave, not alt.romper-room. 
>> 
>> --
>> Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
>

I always thought that bulletin boards are for exchanging ideas and views
while making contacts with like or unlike minded people? How can this be
done if a certain amount of flaming is not allowed. 

As for kirk & friends i would never have known that they existed, and
hence would not have been able to enter any argument.

As for pointless garbage, there seems to be a large amount eminating
from across the pond too. Do people really read top ten lists. They do
not give any useful information at all. Just knowing the title and group 
is pointless. The majority of which will be hard to get hold of. Note
were talking about the world not the rotten apple on the other side of
the Atlantic. 

Please can we have informative reviews and information. (+ Petty
squabbles)

Neil
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dillongm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Johnny Monocrome)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: New TV plot gimmick: Raves!
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:24:33 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <168A213E68.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.023652.6725@wam.umd.edu>
>melzie@wam.umd.edu (Mel-zo-rama) writes:
> 
>>RAVES ON 90210 ARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH
> 
>Come on people now. If we're gonna have everybody get together and love
>one another, we can't have double standards for Fox television, can we? ;-)
> 
>--Eric
>(PS: still a few surveys trickling in...I'll post a summary soon).

There was also a Rave on Parker Lewis.

J.C.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Beligian New-Beat / Techno
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:00:35 GMT

mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett) writes:

>I disagree, but there you are.  Digital Orgasm do have an album out,
>featuring all their hits.  I can't remember what it's called (something like
>"Appearances Are Deceptive"?), but it's released in Australia (amazing!),
>so...um...so there.

Digital Orgasm = Lords of Acid.
-- 
			What's the frequency, Kenneth?

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Whats going on in and around Bristol, England
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:08:06 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England


Hi ho,

Anyone got any information at all about what is going on in and around the
bristol area of England????

Thanks and respect

My friends

U4ia

p.s.   Stay away from obsession raves.....bad news or wot.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: wanted CV/gate-->midi conv
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:04:33 GMT

We really need this in a FAQ ! Check the Nov. '92 issue of Keyboard
mag which details various expansions, including MIDI->CV convertors.
Roland made one the MPU101, but it is no longer in production and
can be had on the used market. Clarity (ex-Lexicon designers) makes
one for $700. PAIA has one for $400. Kenton Electronics in the UK
has one for $400 which several places, including Analogics and
Wine Country Productions sell in the U.S.. Most of these places 
(Clarity, Wine Country, Analogics etc. ) advertise in Keyboard
magazine.

Doesn't ANYONE out there read magazines like Keyboard or Electronic
Musician ?!! 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: LFO/Beware of Bass (was Re: Techno Songs with BaSs)
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:44:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.044056.15371@tamsun.tamu.edu> c0a8504@venus.tamu.edu ((Channone Arif)) writes:
>I am looking for songs with some bass in it.. I was looking for something like
>Love is the message (Beware of Bass remix) by LFO

guru sez:
	I got that EP on import, but the one thing I can't deduce is, is
	"Beware of Bass" just the name of the remix or some remix outfit
	in the States?

	While I'm here, can anybody who has info please mail me with details
	of US LFO releases (vinyl, digital and tape), as I'm about to start
	slinging together a discography (if you've already done one, tell me
	and save me a bit of work :-). Also, I need info on tracklists for
	the UK CD and LP of "Frequencies" and UK Cassette singles. 


-- 
      /~~~) /   / /~~~) /   /   
     (___/ (___/ /     (___/   These mind-expanding drugs have given me so much
        /                      imagination, I'm hallucinating grey vividly....
   (___/ mei172@cch.cov.ac.uk                       Victor Lewis-Smith
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: The Grid (was Re: orb north american tour date)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:50:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.022728.11793@cc.uow.edu.au> mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au
(Bennett) writes:
>
>Plus remixes for everyone and their dog (Pet Shop Boys, Erasure, um, and
>lots of other I'm sure).

What?  What PSB track did they remix?
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: asdbw@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: New TV plot gimmick: Raves!
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:03:09 GMT

Yes, along with techno soundtracks for commercials, raves have hit American TV.
My girlfriend, junk TV junkie that she is, was watching "Silk Stalkings" last
week-- it's one of those incredibly bad "Crime Time After Prime Time" shows--
and the whole episode was about this villain who promoted warehouse raves and
sold people nitrous balloons and also murdered and beat up other people.  I
couldn't believe it!
From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Rave is dead.
Date: 19 Nov 92 10:52:41 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <BxwrEy.FHy@dcs.ed.ac.uk> djts@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Sumpter) writes:
>It seems strange that in the clubs all over our country, the top DJ's are not playing
>rave music but good old house music. Why is there no alt.music.house or something.

Well, probably because thats a step backwards.
Lets face it, i couldn't find one DJ in our local clubs in Bristol who even
attempted to play anything past Moby - go and 'Get ready for this - 2 unlimited'

Rave isn't dead fool, its gone back where it was best.
Underground

Radio in britain wouldn't contemplate playing anything past Tetris, or a so
called rave track 'smart e's - trip to trumpton'

ABout the closest thing we get now in the charts is The Prodigy and Altern8.
Which is fine by me, but don't be fooled by the charts man.
Its only a radio chart, people only buy what they hear.
And if they ain't playing it all, the charts can't be fair now can they!!!

I don't beleive in the charts. I never have.

RAVE IS NOT DEAD, AND NO WAY IS HARDCORE EVER GONNA DIE.

If rave is dead, why are 60,000 people going to exeter in 2 weeks time??

Alot of people for something that is dead???

My friend

U4ia
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: More Grid info
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:18:05 GMT

The Grid also have two fabolous tracks on the A Week In The Real World
compilation on Peter Gabriel's Real World label, where they collaborate with 
various world music people. The Another Week In The Real World part 2 CD is
supposed to have more Grid tracks.

Also, The Grid have remixed and re-worked stuff on the Soft Cell/Marc Almond
compilation Memorabillia, and they have also produced some tracks on Marc
Almod's latest album.
 
-- 
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       \/          // Email: vidarh@.cs.uit.no  Phone: +47 83 44032 //////
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tinoco@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Antera Tinoco)
Subject: Rave compilation
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:54:04 GMT

Hey kids!!!  I have been reading this group for a while and thought I'd
venture to ask a question of you reality challenged rave enthusiasts.
I bought a "Only For The Headstrong-The Ultimate Rave Compilation" CD
today and I was wondering how much this covers of the rave music scene.


         1. Human Resource-"Dominator" (The Beltram Mix)
         
         2. Shaft-"Roobarb & Custard" (Dr. Trips & Bob Bolts Mix)

         3. The Prodigy-"G Force"

         4. Yello-"Bostich" (New Life Mix)

         5. DJ Seduction-"Hardcore Heaven"

         6. Isotonik-"Different Strokes"

         7. Program 2-"More Energy" (Atomic Mix)

         8. Orbital-"Chime" (Ray Keith Mutation)

         9. East Side Beat-"Ride Like The Wind" (Factory Edit)

        10. Convert-"Nightbird" (12" Version)

        11. Utah Saints-"What Can You Do For Me"

        12. Sound Source-"Take Me Up" (Love Decade Mix)

        13. Cuba Gooding vs Altern 8-"Happiness Is Just Around The Bend"

        14. Susan Clark-"Deeper" (7" Edit)

        15. DSK-"What Would We Do" (8 Minutes of Madness)

    I just wanted some opinions, I (in my naive mental state) think the whole 
CD is great.  I have heard most of these at the clubs I go to here in Dallas
(Oooh!-I go to clubs! A major faux paus here I realize).  By the way, this is 
the first time I have ever posted to a newsgroup so don't make me feel like a 
complete ass for asking.

                                            Love & fists-

                                                     alt

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: wanted CV/gate-->midi conv
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:39:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.170433.7745@bmerh85.bnr.ca>
shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
 
>Doesn't ANYONE out there read magazines like Keyboard or Electronic
>Musician ?!!
 
I only read the ones from 2 or more years ago. That's so I can read about
affordable equipment. There's lots of great stuff from the '80s and earlier
that has yet to be fully exploited. Those magazines teach the reader
that they must get the latest equipment or their music will suffer.
They have to say that to keep their advertisers happy.
 
--Eric
From: misd1cp@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: skinhead hooligans 2
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:31:18 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

tripper on the one and two...bringing the beat to all of u-HARDCORE

The reason people are now acting agressive at raves in scotland is because they
are taking "jellies",a prescribed drug called temgesic(watch the spelling,im
not that good),and mixing it with alcohol..bad move...tems are a depresant,so
the drunken skinhead ravers who have jumped on the band wagon start getting
paranoid and end up botteling someone...hope it stops


long live the underground...tripp to the moon

TRIPPER