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From: raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES)
Subject: Re: CYBER FORCE #1
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:56:26 GMT

In article <14OCT199212595307@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> sewon@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG) writes:
>In article <1992Oct13.185537.9958@ncsu.edu>, raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES) writes...
>> 
>>Savage Dragon is a new twists, and Spawn is at least a combination of 
>>enough different characters to make him not a clone of any one.
>>He's Spidey, Bats, Punisher and Ghost Rider all wrapped up into one.
>>But Leifield, Lee and Larsen are just swipping from the Xtitles.
>                       ^^^^^^
>Ummm.. Do you mean Silvestri?  Larsen does Savage Dragon which you seem to 
>think was original.
>
> - Wayne.
>
Oooops. Yep I definitely ment Silvestri. He was the one that used to do
Xmen and is now drawing Wolverine ripoffs like Ripclaw (hmmm, slight 
pun there). 
I still think he did a nice job drawing the story, just wish he could
be more original. 


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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Help from DC buffs requested
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:41:48 GMT

Anatole Wilson <aw3a+@andrew.cmu.edu>:
>By the way, rumors are that Superman undergoes some type of personality
>change after his death in the next few weeks. 

Doesn't this happen to *most* people after they die?



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From: schmburg@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg Schomburg )
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:37:00 GMT

artist: Todd McFarlane

His power...cool,  His Gallery....advantageous!                   

...rise above it all.

dreamdreamdreamdreamdreamdreamdreamdreamdreamdreamdreamdream


  :) * 10^100

-- 
greg schomburg                          If we shadows have offended,
schmburg@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             Think but this and all is mended,
schom@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu                That you have but slum'bred here
                                      While these visions did appear.  -W.S.  
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From: dnaraghi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dara Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Information about "Psycho" ...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:19:19 GMT

In article <8OCT199217555983@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> sewon@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG) writes:
>Hello.
>
>I recently bought "Psycho" #1 which was put out by DC some time ago.  Does 
>anyone have any information about this title?  Was it a miniseries or a 
>series which has since been cancelled?  How many issues?

>Any information would be appreciated,
> - Wayne.

	The Psycho was a 3-issue limited series.  All the issues are
out (it was published some time ago).  All three are written by James
Hudnall and painted by Dan Brerton (one of my all time favorite artists).
If you liked it, I suggest you try some of Hudnall's other superhero
stuff, especially ESPers (4-issue limited series, +1 extra issue)
published by Eclipse, and Interface, the continuation of ESPers published
by Epic.  ESPers featured the art of David Lloyd (sp?  it's the guy who
drew V for Vendetta) and Interface (which only lasted 8 issues) had
painted artwork by...damn, it's either Paul Johnson or John Burns (the one
who did an issue of Books of Magic).  Oh, the last issue of Interface was
drawn by none other than Dan Brerton!
	Hmmm, methinks I should steal the identity of Obscure Trivia Lad!

-- 
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: LSH#36 P.S.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:49:40 GMT

Oh, and did you notice that Horton Plaza hasn't changed in over
a thousand years?  I wonder if the uprising against the Dominators
is going to cause trouble for SDCC of that year.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

	"Is it real -- or is it dupli-disk?"
From: gu@castle.ed.ac.uk (G Ushaw)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: M #4
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:31:44 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

sherman@deimos.math.ucla.edu (William Sherman) writes:

>Speaking of which, the spy in the first part of Muth's "The Mythology 
>of an Abandoned City" looks an awful lot like some famous actor.  Can
>anybody tell me who?  It's been bugging me for a while.

Anthony Hopkins?
From: don@tse.uucp (Don Marks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone read Love & Rockets here?
Keywords: Eightball Hate R. Crumb Julie Doucet Raw etc. etc.
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:09:30 GMT
Organization: Toronto Stock Exchange

In article <1992Oct14.080347.14531@sco.com> bobti@sco.COM (Bob Tinsman) writes:
>
>If anyone is into non-superhero comics, it doesn't seem like it. If there
>is another group that does these folks, lemme know.
>the non-superhero content of the net looks like about nil.
>
You might want to try the comix mailing list ... just send e-mail off to
comix-request@world.std.com for discussion of non-mainstream comics.  The list
has been kind of quiet lateley, but I'm sure it'll pick up.

For the record, I read pretty much only non-superhero books, but I just don't
post here much (don't have much to say, I guess).  The best way to get
discussion going is to start it yourself.

So ... L&R.  After all the good things I have heard about this series, I
finally picked up the first collection last summer.  It was ok, but nothing
great, I thought.  But the glimpse of Palomar had me interested, so I picked
up volume 2.  From there I was hooked.  Initially, I was really drawn to
Gilbert's stories, but with the current run, I'm enjoying Jaime's stuff much
more, _Wig Wam Bam_ in particular.  And what about you?

==============================================================================
Don Marks                                   "I comb my hair, I shine my shoes
don@tse.UUCP                       But its all a stupid joke I confess to you"
geac!tse!don                                               --- House of Freaks
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From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Delirium
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 19:31:07 GMT

In article <faber.718472242@cs.wisc.edu>, faber@loon.cs.wisc.edu (Ted) writes:
 > jamesc@bassclar.Eng.Sun.COM (James Langdell) writes:
 > 
 > >I'd be amused to see a little girl's tea party between Delirium and the
 > >representative from Chaos who visited Dream in "Seasons of Mist."  I'm
 > >sure they'd have a lot to talk about, whether we'd understand any or it 
 > >or not.
 > 
 > 	Or whether they would or not, for that matter.  And I think her
 > 	name was "Shimmering Jemmy" (Or "Screaming".  The adjectives are
 > 	becoming confused.)
 
"Shivering Jemmy".  

You're welcome.

leifmk@lise.unit.no
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From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 18:33:12 GMT

 panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:

[Artists from history]

>Well, sure.  Hieronymous Bosch for one.  Salvador Dali.  Kate Greenaway.  
>And how about Beatrix Potter?

Mervyn Peake. Pleeeeease!

Tanaqui
From: izo30@ccc.amdahl.com (Ian O_Brien)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman #43: Transportation
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:44:51 GMT
Reply-To: izo30@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Ian O_Brien)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct11.202030.15465@netcom.com> solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay) writes:
>  [ stuff about transportation deleted ]
>
>Now, *why* is he doing this? We don't know. (Leastwise I don't
>*think* we know...) But since Neil called our attention to it, we
>can assume it's significant.

I agree with you that it looks like Dream has decided to spend some time in
the waking world again. The reason? In issue #42 Dream says "Because I need
something to take my mind off my recent misadventure, perhaps?". So I am
viewing incidents like the conversations in the plane and the incident with
the receptionist as something that Dream wants to do to take his mind off
things. After all he normally deals with people as subjects in his domain,
maybe he likes to deal with people as equals for a change. This is the
light in which I view Dream's relationship with Hob Gadling - as someone
for Dream to relate to as an equal (Hob doesn't know who Dream is, does
he?). Is relating to waking people a sort of hobby for Dream?

Another possibility: Is Dream on a research trip? Looking for new ideas
for the Dreaming in the Waking World?

Ian
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Help from DC buffs requested
Keywords: DC, Superman
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:10:00 GMT

fperry@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Fred Perry):
>I am working on a paper for literary criticism and am wondering if I can get 
>some support from those readers who know a lot more about the history of 
>Superman than I do, especially the early history. 

This isn't going to be very supportive.  I can't help feeling that you're
crossing the line between asking for supporting information and asking us
to do your homework for you.  There's been a fair amount of this over the
past year or so, so a message like this one has been waiting to happen -- 
You just got lucky.

>The premise of my paper is that the three versions of Superman so far 
>(Golden, Silver, Byrne [Bronze]) reflect the culture from which they arise 
>and in part fill a specific need in that period's problems. 

At some level, this is almost self-evident.  A cultural icon will only be 
successful if it fills contemporary needs.  If you're going to make a
case of this sort, why not do so for icons with which you're more familiar?
Actually, Superman strikes me as a particularly *poor* choice, because his
various incarnations have not come in response to different needs, so much
as in response to changes in style.  For example, today's readers have
half a century more of science fiction behind them than those of the
original superman, and hence demand better pseudo-realism in their 
pseudo-science.

>1. What actually happens in Action 1?

Go into most any comic store, plunk down a dollar, ask for the reprint
of Action #1, and don't forget your change.

>2. When was Superman's origin fully told for the first time? The early issues
>give a page synopsis of his arrival on Earth but we don't find out about 
>Jor-el until sometime in the late forties. What issue of what mag, and what
>was the date?

The origin keeps changing, of course.  The one given in Action #1 is
quite sketchy.  One can argue that the Superman whose origin is [re-] told
in Superman 53 or 61 is not really the same Superman.  The Superman
whose origin appears in Man of Steel #1 certainly isn't.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
From: hlow@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Handel Low)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted: Love & Rockets fans ("the comics book")
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:39:26 GMT
Organization: Leave the Doors Open



	I am interested in the Love and Rockets comic book
particularly because it has started appearing in "Deadline"
Magazine..."The Death Of Speedy," I think the story is called.

	The story seems well-done, the art is fine black and
white amazing, but I should like to know more about what
Love and Rockets is about...?


handel
From: wj_wigna@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Ebeneezer Goode)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Sandman
Keywords: titles
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:20:14 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

Could somebody please post the title of the collection of  the 3 short stories held in issues just before Brief Lives and their separate story titles, as I
managed to miss all of these issues.

Bill
From: daikerjohnc@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Characters available for Marvel 2009
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:39:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: bvc.1992Oct14.173900.2339
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

>By 2099, Franklin Richards should be just about old enough to enter 
>high school.


And Aunt May wil be very close to, but not yet near, dying.


JMan
From: dray@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Daniel Ray Giese)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Teen Titans
Date: 15 Oct 1992 19:54:09 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1bk9ntINN3p2@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones) writes:

>In article <9228921.18111@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO) writes:
 
>>During the Crisis, there's a whole bunch of Teen Titans. I didn't pick
>>up anything related to the Titans until now..."Total Chaos". And I don't
>>know what happened to some of the members, eg. Cyborg. I know Jericho
>>was killed by his father..."Death-Stroke: Terminator", but for the others,
>>I'm not so sure...
>
>	No.......can't...hold..on.  Must...main....tain....control....
>
>
   (commentary, tirades deleted)

   This got me to thinking, since I too, as many have, have personally
   epxerienced the depths to which the Titans have sunk.  There has
   been on Omnicon (the LSH newsletter) several different stories
   inspired by that group, and was wondering.  If anyone (in particular
   Mr Jones or anybody else who realizes the poor quality in the book
   now) would be willing to write a differing version of the Titans
   (particularly focusing on a Team Titans team, I think there must be
   a way to do it right.  I know DC's policy is that there aren't a lot
   of teams if any, that made the trip to the past.  I think this would
   really be the best way to make a statement about the writing on the
   current series.  Kinda like Connie's really said something to me
   about the X-Force mentality.  Any aspiring authors?

   Dan Giese
   dray@csd4.csd.uwm.edu




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From: raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES)
Subject: Re: A Bitter Old Man on the Hulk
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:21:56 GMT

In article <1bk28sINNi6h@uwm.edu> justice@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael John Stiehl) writes:
>	The loss of Dale Keown's art on the Hulk is, in a word, tragic.
>	The only thing more tragic than the lost of his art is who they
>	replaced him with.
>
>	Jan Duursema's art on issue #399 was at best a weak effort.
>	Perhaps I've been spoiled by the awsome art that Keown has done
>	on the Hulk (especailly on issue #398), but Duursema's art looks
>	like a cheap knock off of Keown's.
>
>	Why must we suffer with such a poor replacement on the Hulk.
>	Over all this is (or should I say was) one of the best titles that
>	Marvel put out.  True Peter David's writing is still top knotch,
>	but the comic has lost somthing in Keown's departure.
>
>	While it is true that Keown was going to leave anyway, Todd
>	MacFarland in Spawn #3 (I think it was #3) said that he was yanked
>	(Dale Keown that is) from the book with no explanation.
>
>	Well the explanation is simple.  With Keown going to Image 
>	Marvel just wanted to yank him off the book for spite.
>	In the procees those dim wits at Marvel, headed by chief 
>	dim wit Tom DeFalco, interupted a four part series with in
>	a series.
>
>	Over all Marvel managed to rob not only Dale Keown of leaving the
>	title the way he wanted to, but they robbed us, the fans, of
>	what could have been some of Keown's best work on the Hulk.
>	
>	This is a really just another screw up at Marvel.
>	
>	Thanks Tom DeFalco!!!!
>	
>	
>	
>	Geezer Boy
>	
>

Geezer Boy,

Maybe you missed it, but a few weeks ago, PAD (the writer of Hulk) had a
post that gave the real reason that Keown wasn't going to stay till #400.
(BTW, 399 was always scheduled to be Duursema because Keown can't crank out a
full book in a month. ) Keown, because of the rate at which he pencils, and
the added workload of Pitt, was way behind schedule on Hulk #400. Rather then
hope he got the pencils in on time, Marvel decided to not risk it, and decided
to let 398 be his last book. 

If I have this right, and PAD is correct about this (which I believed him to be)
then I think Marvel has done nothing wrong here. I too hope that a 
talented penciller is found soon. 

Rodney Boles
	
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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: Zoo Crew
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:17:31 GMT

silvers3@husc8.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith) writes:

>In article <1992Oct8.071721.11337@news.iastate.edu> baarniy@iastate.edu (Scott A Coon) writes:
>>    I'm sure almost everyone remembers Capt. Carrot and His Amazing
>>Zoo Crew (from around 1982).

>I hope you're trying to be sarcastic. I think we're the only ones. :)

I loved the book.  I hope they revive it soon.

>They were ignored in the Crisis (although there nay be a cameo somewhere);
>the Official Crisis Index later indicated that Earth C and probably Earth
>C-Minus were not really alternate Earths at all. Captain Carrot still
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
But... but... but they met Starro, the Starfish Conqueror!  And
SuperMax, I mean, Superman!  They did exist.  They did, they did, they
did!  The next thing you know, they'll be denying the existence of
Ambush Bug!

:)   :)    :)   :)


Tom
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Re: Gender Character Contest
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:02:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.195827.11463@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>      Dave Van Domelen, let's have a vote on favorite gender-bender!

RANMA!  RANMA!! RANMA!!!

:-)
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From: sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:10:31 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:

> In article <1992Oct5.185753.327@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com 
> >In article <senuwfW00WB4ADHfJB@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Steven M. Stadnicki" <ss7m+
> >> Who would you *most* like to see do an issue (or issues) of Sandman,
> >> and on what theme?  (Assuming you could find a theme for said artist)
> 
> Heck, why limit ourselves? Gustaf Durer, for any Endless story set back a
> few hundred years. Or a tour of Despair's realm. Rembrandt for the current
> storyline (the current art, especially Del's randomly abstract face, remind
> me of his sketches for some reason). Van Gogh for Delirium at Home.
> 
> Any others? Hmm...

How `bout Nagel for Desire at Home?


                                        - Sasha

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From: rkelly@pioneer.unm.edu (Bob Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: gender benders
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:07:38 GMT
Organization: Space and Planetary Image Facility

In article <Bw6CoJ.958@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>Gender benders, hmmmmmm........
>
>1.  "Mama" from 3x3 Eyes
>2.  Desire of the Endless, depending on who's watching
>3.  Lobo (we need a *man*woman*squirrel* category here)
>4.  Ziggy (Computer on QL)
>5.  Shade
>6.  Lassie
>7.  Mockingbird
>8.  Ranma, natch!  Grab those buckets......
>9.  KD LANG!!!!!

10) Rebis
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From: smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil (Sten M. Drescher)
Subject: Re: A Bitter Old Man on the Hulk
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 01:52:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.212112.25969@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  ) writes:
	   Agreed!  While the story for #399 was up to par, though maybe 
   the continuity from #398 was slightly hard to follow at first, the art
   was not what we have come to expect from this book.  Yes, we are
   spoiled, but I wouldn't mind this so much if Keown had at least been
   allowed to finished this storyline.  If what McFly sez is correct, the
   gang at Marvel have indeed pulled a sleezy one.  Who cares if he's behind
   schedule??!!  DK's art is worth the wait.

	From a fanboy standpoint, sure it's worth the wait, but when
you're running a business (from Marvel all the way down to your local
comics store), the timely delivery of material is imperative.  None of
them are running a charity, and if a supplier isn't providing the
product as promised, you go to another supplier.  If you want to blame
anyone, blame Keown for over committing himself.
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Brooks AFB, TX 78235           | tried.  They are men of courage, compassion,
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From: 003695s@ace.acadiau.ca (STEPHANE ANDRE SAVOIE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Dinosaur?
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:14:11 GMT
Organization: Acadia University


  The new company is supposed to be under the imprint "Dinosaur", but does 
anyone know who'll be publishing it (Dark Horse, Eclipse, Malibu, etc..)

KID ANARKY
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