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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Changing the damn icons (and a lockup question!)
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:31:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.184400.1899@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior) writes:
>I downloaded a file containing 1700 icons and unzipped them all into
>one directory using pkzip in a dos window.  At first it really zipped
>along, but by the time it got 1/2 way done it was crawling (these
>were 800 byte icons and should spit out fast!).  Any clue why?  System
>is a 486-33 w/16MB ram and SCSI drive.

This problem occurs with FAT drives (and is one reason why HPFS is so
helpful).  I won't go into the technical arguments, but,
unfortunately, with FAT disks you have performance problems with large
numbers of files in a single directory.

Your other two questions have already been answered here.

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From: v053qpgh@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric W Sarjeant)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 Win3.1 support *better* than MS!
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug27.160726.42605@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes...
>In article <1992Aug27.122649.21603@actrix.gen.nz>, Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>> At an IBM OS/2 seminar this evening, one of the presenters told us that the
>> news in IBM's internal forums today was that the Win3.1 support in the CSD is
>> going to also include support for those Win3.x programs that will not run
>> under Win3.1.......
>>  
>> So, Win-OS/2 is more compatible with Windows than Microsoft! Don't forget
>> WinOS/2 also runs Windows 2.x apps as well, which MS doesn't run.
>>  
>> Sounds like a better Windows than Windows, to me.
>>  
> 
>My my.  Maybe that's why it has taken so long...IBM has been bug-fixing
>Windows 3.1.  Hmmm...  Any of the Micro$oft employees want to comment?
> 
>By the way, which applications don't work with Microsoft Windows 3.1?
>I can't remember any, but when I am challenged on this point in the 
>future (and I know I will be), I would like to know the specific apps.
> 
>Thanks.

As far as I know, very few Win 3.0 applications will refuse to run under
Win 3.1; however, they will have inconsistancies.

For example, Ami Pro 2.0 would run pretty good under Win 3.1, but it would
generate an occasional Division by Zero Error and refuse to run. As it
turns out, if you run the application minimized using Win 3.1, Ami Pro 2.0
would not recognize the app is already minimized and would attempt to
execute itself normally.
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From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Can't View C:
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:45:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I need some help.
I just installed OS/2, and the installation seemed to go smoothly 
enough - except that the Dual Boot feature didn't install.
I got that going, but now I can't get a view of Drive C: - no
Icon View, No Tree View, and no Detail View.  I can't seem to access
it at all.
Also, ever time I do anything that requires a Drive D: access,
I get a message that says, "Can't access Drive D:" or something 
like that, but when I retry, it accesses it OK.

Does anybody have any idea on what's wrong and how I can fix it?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: orville@weyrich.UUCP (Orville R. Weyrich)
Subject: Re: Difference between DOS upgrade and full version
Reply-To: orville@weyrich.UUCP (Orville R. Weyrich)
Organization: Weyrich Computer Consulting
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 06:11:25 GMT

In article <anderson.26.715264953@mayo.edu> anderson@mayo.edu (Alfred I. Anderson) writes:
>I think that the DOS Upgrade requires that you install the OS/2 V2.0 upgrade 
>onto a hard disk that has either OS/2 V1.3 or IBM PC-DOS installed.  I 
>believe that the installation of OS/2 V2.0 Upgrade will fail if one attempts 
>to install it on a virgin disk or a disk with MS-DOS.
>
>I had the same question and this is what I was told.... someone set us 
>straight if the above is in error!

Half true. It depends on the version of MS-DOS that you use, and how creative
the OEM was that packaged your version of MS-DOS.

I installed OS/2 2.0 upgrade on top of MS-DOS 5.0 OEM'ed through BEC
Computer with no problems. Others on the net report that other versions of
MS-DOS will not work (Hewlet-Packard sticks in my mind, but don't quote me).

Of course PC-DOS works properly, because any cuteness that exists in it
IBM knows how to handle.  If somebody else got cute, then IBM might not
know about it.

Of course others have posted the work-around for this silly marketing
ploy that sometimes fails and gives legitimate users a headache. :-)

orville

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Checkit (was Re: OS2 WINS!!  I give up!)
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:11:21 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug27.211954.13055@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> gregb@gout.austin.ibm.com writes:
>In  <1992Aug26.200451.13762@njitgw.njit.edu>  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>> You got really unlucky.  From my own analysis, I'd run a very detailed
>> check on your memory.  Get a program like Checkit and set it to
>> complete memory analysis, and let it run continuously over an entire
>> weekend, logging any errors to the printer.  OS/2, with it's high
>> level of context switching, can push marginal and intermittantly bad
>> memory over the edge.
>
>Where can such a program be obtained?  I have a system that gets
>occaisional trap 2's, but have no desire to start swapping chips
>(yes, chips, it's an older motherboard).

Many utility programs will do this.  Here are some prices from
Programmer's Paradise (I have their catalog in school with me
today...) 

	AMIDIAG by AMI - list: $90, PP: $81

	Checkit by Touchstone Software - list:149, PP:105

	Ckeckit Floppy drive testing - list:70, PP:39

	Disk Technician Gold by Prime Solitions - list:149, PP:99

These are all DOS diagnostic programs.  Programmer's Paradise can be
reached at 1-800-445-7899.  These apps should be available in most
software stores (although software stores seem to be quickly becoming
video game stores...)
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From: RIMILLER@pucc.Princeton.EDU (RON MILLER)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: How can I run 123 3.1 in emulated DOS?
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:03:44 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

mstaben@comtch.spk.wa.us writes
>
>To use LOTUS 123 3.1 in emulated dos, set all the executables to have
>version 3.3 faked,  (3,40,255) in DOS_VERSION settings, set DOS_UMB on,
>DOS_HIGH on and DPMI_MEMORY_LIMIT to 4 or more. (I use 3).  Then, cause
>the object to call a batch file which sets "123MEMSIZE=2048" then
>executes 123.exe.
>
 
Thanks for this advice, but it didn't work for me, though now I get
a different error message :  "DOS/16M error: [16] cannot
run under OS/2".  This sounds a little bit final to me.  Anyone have
any ideas?  Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Fixed disk read failure: screwy boot sector?
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:47:46 GMT

Hi.  I download some fonts, and I tried printing one out at a 
LARGE point size.  my system crashed.

Since then, every time i boot up, I get a message (from my Phoenix BIOS, I pres
ume) saying "Fixed disk read failure - Press F1 to retry boot, F2 for
setup utility."  

F2 goes to my CMOS setup screen.  Everything looks fine.
F1 jumps right to the Boot Manager, as if nothing was wrong.  From there,
i can boot OS/2 or DOS just fine.

I called IBM and they told to delete the boot partition, and contruct another
one. I did this, but it did not help.

What could it be that screws things up?  When I boot up, it activates my
A: drive, then my B: drive, and then when it access my hard drive it gives
that error.  Seeing as OS/2 does boot up fine, I think it has nothing to do with
OS/2 per se.  

Any suggestions?  It looks like I could do fine like this as far as working 
on my computer goes, but very bothersome.  I'd hate to have to low-level
format or something and lose all the time invested in my system.

Thanks a lot for any help you can give-
.
-Dan
.

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From: freeman@eagle (Jay Freeman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: need help with install weirdness
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:23:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Sangamon State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Reboot with your OS/2 floppies and use fdisk to set the boot manager 
partition "bootable".

Jay
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From: clark@odie.ee.wits.ac.za (Alan Robert Clark)
Subject: FAQ: How to port Windows .ICO icons to OS/2?????
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Novell Users).
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:56:08 GMT

I'm sure I've seen this somewhere..... Note that the windoze icon is a .ico 
and not attached to the .exe

All help Appreceiated!
Alan.

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 and ESDI -- also, Netware Requestor...
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:01:38 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Aug22.170933.42505@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>At work, we are considering putting OS/2 2.0 on a 486 system with
>an ESDI 660 mb hard disk.  I think I remember reading news stuff a 
>while back that described problems of using OS/2 with ESDI drives.
>Is this true?  If this is in the FAQ, sorry.  

Not really.  See the FAQ for an exception with certain machines (and
for information on the 1024 cylinder "limit" that really isn't).

>Also, how do I get the Novell Netware Requestor for OS/2 2.0?  From
>Novell?  Anyone got a phone number?

Also in the FAQ List.  Call Novell at 800-UPDATE1 (in the U.S.)  The
cost is $30 for the requester.  You can also obtain it from your IBM
SE (if you have one at your university) -- they will supply it free of
charge.

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From: stevesm@scotty.hco.tek.com (Steve Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: 30 min per disk to load os2
Keywords: slow boot
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:36:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

Hi netters,

Well its my turn this time.  My brother recently bought OS/2 and tried
loading it on his '486 machine.  He was able to load OS2 and get it
running, however, as he was loading it, he noticed that the average
time it took to unload the software from the 3 1/2" disks was 30 min.
It literally took all night just to load the OS!


Also, now when he tries to boot OS/2, it takes about 10 minutes!

The hardware consists of a 33Mhz, '486 clone with AMI bios, 8 megs ram
and a 28 msec 71 MB MFM hard disk. ( I know the HD is way too small
but he wanted to buy OS/2 while the price was right, he plans to
upgrade the HD in the future.)  

My question is what could be causing this slow down? Could the hard
disk be the reason for the incredible slowness of the system?

BTW, I've got a clone 33Mhz, '386, AMI bios with (only) 4Megs, 16msec
120MB IDE hard disk and only takes about 1 1/2 minutes per disk to
load and 1:40 to boot to os2.

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From: frigo@psl.wisc.edu (Sean P. Frigo UW-Madison SRC (608)877-2332,-2001(FAX))
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: PUBLIC clipboard errors
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:54:45 GMT
Reply-To: frigo@psl.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Physical Science Lab

Is there a way to tweak the size of the public clipboard?  Otherwise, when
working in a Windows document in WIN-OS2, I get "Out of memory or disk
error." when copying to the clipboard.  This happens everytime there is
already something in the clipboard and it is PUBLIC.  Changing the clipboard
to PRIVATE takes care of the problem.  Could this be a problem with the
DDE exchange (Data Update?)?
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From: jreynold@nmt.edu (John Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ati ultra
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:27:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: nmt.1992Sep2.142757.742
Distribution: comp
Organization: New Mexico Tech

"bill dehaan" <bill.dehaan@canrem.com> writes:
>BD>Except that the ATI  board is using the  IBM 8514/A drivers (ATI  has no
>BD>drivers for OS/2 v2.0 yet). The IBM boards do not have coprocessors,  so
>BD>of course the drivers  ignore them on the  ATI board. Your ATI  board is
>BD>running in IBM compatable mode, which explains the slow speed.
>
>RF>Bill:
>
>RF>Others who use the ATI 8514a boards, using IBM 8514a drivers, claim
>RF>lightning speed!
>
>Really? At  our site,  we find  them identical  to the  IBM boards  when
>running OS/2...
>---

I'm an owner of an ATI Ultra, and I find it very quick. Although the only
thing I have to compare it to is the machine at work with only a Paradise
VGA card....:-)

-John



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: masimo@netcom.com (Michael Maas)
Subject: Re: OS2 WINS!!  I give up!
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 04:00:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: all 

In article <1992Aug27.015416.6882@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> riehm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm) writes:
>>In article <26AUG199210035893@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> solomon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Solomon) writes:
>
>a horrible tale of woe...   I'm just about to install OS/2, but after reading 
>his experience, I very worried.  I *do* have a mixture of memory (on my IBM
>Model 70) which is certainly from different manufacturers, and almost certainly
>different speeds.  Does anyone else have any experience with using differing
>memory simms  with OS/2?   When IBM itself warns against this situation, 
>it sounds serious!   Carl Riehm.

I have os2 running and it is running better than the 3.0 windows I replaced
with it.  It took me seven installs over a weekend to get what I wanted but
most of the installs went ok, I just changed my mind about partitions.

Anyway, I have  tsdng 4000 72 refresh.  I have 8 meg of ram all 70ns but
4 are nec 9 pin and 4 are Hyundai 3 pins.  there have been no complaints.
the cpu is 386-33.

My only outstanding problem is that I can't print from the os2 editor, but 
I can from ami running seamless.  I moved all of my windows apps over to
the os2 desktop.  

Now, if they will just get seamless windows to support svga...

Mike


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Subject: Re: Some suggestions for OS/2
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:29:46 GMT

gershon@husc10.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon) writes:

>give out a good "make bootable diskette/disk" program as an applet. I
>still haven't entirely figured this out.

Take a look at BOOT20 on software.watson.ibm.com.

______________________________________________________________________________
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 System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: komarimf@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Mark Komarinski)
Subject: Re: c000005 error on first install
Organization: Clarkson University
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:35:23 GMT

nazario@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
[description of c0000005 error deleted]
>I'm having the exact same problem.  I have a Zenith 486/33, I
>installed using FAT over my DOS installation.  The system has 4MB of
>RAM and also has a Paradise 1MB video board according to the Microsoft
>Diagnostic included with Win 3.1.

All paradise boards with 1 meg will make OS/2 think that the board has 
2 meg of video memory (or something like that)  Call IBM support and
ask them for a fix.  In the meantime, you can use OS/2 without
the svga support by removing all references to SVGA in the config.sys.
For example, there is a reference to BVHSVGA - delete that, but leave the
BHVGA.  Also, there is a dos device driver loaded (the next line down I 
think) that is called svga.sys.  Just take out the 's' and leave it as
vga.sys.  That will let you use OS/2 until you get the fix.

-Mark

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Subject: LAN access on more 1 DOS window????
From: js@gaaj.uottawa.ca (Jean-Serge Gagnon)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:21:58 GMT
Organization: Computing & Communications, Ottawa University

Hi,
    I've been using OS/2 for a while now at home, but I've just installed
it on my PC at work. I am able to create a VDM session with DOS 5.0, load
my IPX and NET5 drivers to get access to the lan, but I would like to have
more than one session like that. Needless to say that if I creat a second
VDM and start both, they crash (and are ??imposible?? to close).
    Anyone know of a way to do this? Is there any OS/2 version of this?

Please Help!!!

P.S. I would prefer replies via e-mail as I do not get access to the news
all the time.

Thanks for any help.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: 32bit PKZIP 2.x for OS/2 ???
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.apps
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:06:27 GMT

Please do not crosspost in the OS/2 hierarchy -- thanks.

In article <92241.114753RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at> FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at> writes:
>Did anyone hear or read about Phil Katz' PKZIP in 32bit for OS/2 ?
>If it is available, where can one get it to try it ? Is it version 2.x ?

It has not been released yet, as far as I know, but Info-ZIP's
rendering of Zip/UnZip has.  You can obtain both via anonymous ftp
from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu (look in /pub/downloads).

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From: ted@isgtec.com (Ted Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Difference between DOS upgrade and full version
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:46:50 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc. Mississauga Ont. Canada
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David Charlap (dic5340@hertz.njit.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Sep2.061125.24251@weyrich.UUCP> orville@weyrich.UUCP (Orville R. Weyrich) writes:
: >
: >Of course others have posted the work-around for this silly marketing
: >ploy that sometimes fails and gives legitimate users a headache. :-)
: 
: It may be silly, but it rarely fails, and it's easier than making
: people tear cover pages out of their DOS manuals.

It failed for me: none of my 3.5 inch diskettes had a slider in the
write-enable slot, not even the one that the installation program
writes to.  It took me several tries before I discovered that if you
told OS/2 to return the error to the prorgam, it carried on with the
installation anyway.

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