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From: oxley@pdn.paradyne.com (Don Oxley)
Subject: Re: Say it's so! Baseball in Tampa Bay!!!
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:50:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.002623.6880@adobe.com> snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.173524.18971@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>>And now they are drawing a mere 20,000 per game.  Hasn't the Tampa
>>stadium *already* sold that many season tickets?  And they didn't
>>even have a team!
>
>20000 season tickets is not the same as 20000/game.  When season ticket
>sales are announced, it's all ticket plans, not just 81 game plans.  Most
>of the plans sold are not full plans.  
>
>I don't know the situation in St. Pete (the stadium is emphatically *not*
>in Tampa; it was built in St Pete after Tampa and St Pete couldn't agree to
>cooperate on a stadium and St Pete decided to go it on their own), but I
>suspect it's like most other situations where they're hoping to get a team:
>they've taken *deposits* (likely refundable) to get on a list to buy season
>tickets.  
>
>Sherri Nichols
>snichols@adobe.com
>
>

Your statement above concerning tickets sold in the Tampa Bay area is
correct.  They took a $50 deposit per ticket to reserve an opportunity
to purchase season tickets once a team has arrived.  I understand that
the $50 goes toward the purchase and is also refundable.

DonO

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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:33:43 -0400 
From: Todd Harris Fletcher <tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Willie Randolph
Distribution: na

>I believe that I heard that Willie Randolph injured
>himself today.
>I don't have any details.

It's that "weak bones in the wrist" syndrome that is going around the
Mets.  He's probably done for the year.  Too bad.

Todd
From: IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ryan Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: ANSWER: RULEBOOK TRIVIA 16
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:13:26 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Last week's RULEBOOK TRIVIA play was:

In the bottom of the ninth with the score tied at three apiece,
there are runners on first and third, with nobody out. The batter
hits a hard grounder to short, where the short stop fields the ball
cleanly, looks back the runner, and fires a bullet to the second
baseman. Realizing that the defense will most surely turn the
double play, the runner from first neglects to slide and instead
crashes into the second baseman who is in the process of making the
throw to first. Meanwhile the runner from third has streaked for
home as soon as the short stop turned attention away from him. The
runner from third crosses the plate just before the first baseman
catches the errant throw by the short stop with a diving stab in
the direction of the outfield.

The offensive team charges from the dugout in elation, crowding the
runner to congratulate him. The umpire at second calls the runner
from first out and then declares the batter-runner out from
interference. Because you are the crew chief at umpiring this night
at third base, the defensive team's manager has trudged out to have
a calm word with you. What are you going to tell him?


THE CALL
Under Rule 7.09g, both the batter-runner and the baserunner called
for interference are out. The runner cannot score from third, as
the ball was immediately dead upon the interference of the
baserunner going to second.

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From: hankwong@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Y. Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Expansion draft
Date: 18 Aug 1992 19:45:41 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: locusts.berkeley.edu
Summary: WHo might the Giants protect???

In article <-8qmd!f.mzimmers@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>In article <4074@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
>
>>I'd also be interested to hear opinions about which teams you think face the
>>thorniest protection decisions.  The Twins?
>>[...]
>
>I don't know how thorny it'll be for the Giants, but it's a slow day,
>so what the heck...
>
>From the starting lineup:
>
>    Manwaring, Clark, Thompson, Williams, Snyder

I believe Snyder, Garrelts, James, and Felder are all exempt from having to
be protected, since they are free agents at the end of the year.

>
>Pitchers:
>
>    Swift, Black, Burkett, Beck, Jackson

	I don't know about protecting Black- he's about 34 and has a large
salary.

>Bench:
>
>    Felder, Leonard
>
>AAA:
>
>    Lewis, Clayton, Wood or Hosey
>
>One does get up to 15 in a hurry, doesn't one?  This leaves Trevor
>Wilson (yeah I know), Brantley, Heredia and Olivares from the pitching
>staff,

How about Hickerson?
> Bass, James, Leonard and McGee (who they might have to keep
>simply because he's the closest thing to a leadoff hitter that they've
>got), along with Decker, Wood or Hosey, Santana, Ard and some other
>folk in Phoenix.
>
>Imagine how sticky this must be for a team that has anything
>resembling depth...
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Here's who I would protect:

From the starting lineup:  Clark, Thompson, Williams, Manwaring

ALso I would protect either Uribe or Benjamin (probably Benjamin) just
in case Clayton isn't ready next year.

Pitchers:  Swift, Beck, Jackson, Hickerson, either Burkett, Wilson, or
Oliveras.

Prospects :  Clayton, Lewis, Hosey, Decker, Rick Huisman or Pat Rapp.

Hosey I hear is the best outfield prospect the Giants have right now, so I'd
hold on to him.  I don't know too much about Huisman or Rapp, to be honest.
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From: starg@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (tony.a.stargel)
Subject: Help!!!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:39:32 GMT


My second half roster is due Friday at noon.
I need info on some players:

	Deion Sanders.... will he be gone after Aug. 31??
How much will play with Braves???

Greg Harris (SD).... I know he is in AA now. When is he to return
to majors? Should I take a chance on him??

Andy Ashby (Phil) ... is back from AAA and is scheduled to pitch
Friday nite.  Can he get me some wins?? How did he do in AAA?
Will he be in rotation rest of year??


Thanks for any info!!!

Tony Stargel
starg@toolserv.att.com
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Base-ball Dream Team
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:47:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.175954.28209@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.145656.1625@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>
>>Both Alomar and Rodriguez were born in Puerto Rico, which is, I believe, a 
>>protectorate of the US. Technically, they can be called Americans, and if
>>overseas (in Japan, eg) they can avail themselves of the US embassy.
>
>Yup, but since Puerto Rico has a seperate Olympic Committee, they would have
>to compete with the Puerto Rican team.

Which is not a matter of nationalities, but of Olympic Committees. Most likely,
if they wanted to do so, the Puerto Ricans could try out for the US team. 
Several other Olympic squads (esp in basketball) had Americans on the team.

Mike
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From: rom@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Rommy)
Subject: Cubs & White Sox Schedule
Originator: rom@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:00:49 GMT

Does anyone have a   Cubs & Whitesox schedule they could email me?  Actually all
I really need is the their home schedule from whenever this is recieved to the  end of the season.  Thinking about taking a roadtrip down there!

Thanks in advance.

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From: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU (Edward Hui)
Subject: Re: bye bye san fran!!! hello tampa bay
Reply-To: st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:09:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.201747.17702@sybus.com>, jon@sybus.com (Jon Pessano) writes:
>for a city that loves it baseball team so much,  
>how come they only get around 15000 fans the
>last couple of days.
>
(1)  They were playing the Astros.
(2)  Monday night's game started at 6:30 local time.  Tuesday and Wednesday's
     game were day games.
(3)  They were not in contention.
(4)  Though this may not have any implication, the A's were playing the
     White Sox at Oakland at the same time.  For a baseball fan that
     roots for neither teams, the AL matchup is much better.
Edward Hui
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Padres News and Enquiry about a no-hitter.
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:03:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.000638.2672@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, mfrancis@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
> This post will serve 2 purposes.
> 
> First of all, I'm glad to read that the Padres seem to be doing
> okay, and am rather cheered at Sheffield's work ... I only
> wish I can get more news about the Padres; the papers I see
> here don't really cover National League teams too much; just
> a box score, if at all.  (Kind of frustrating.)

The lights are out.. the Padres are history in the NLWest race for
this year. Its become increasingly clear that Riddoch is a goner at
the end of this season. Everyday, a veteran player questions his 
moves. Two devastating losses on this road trip seem to taken their
toll on the confidence of this team. They lost the last game in Atl
on a 9th inn HR, and the blew a 2 run lead [and lost] in the 2nd
game at Cincy. Riddoch keeps pulling wierd moves. He has Melendez
[who hadn't pitched in 11 days!! imagine that!] pitch the crucial
8th in Cincy. He gives Jackson a day off against a left-hand
pitcher in Pitt. Why? If DJ needs a rest, bench him against a RHP,
not a LHP. This is not the 1st time this has happened either.

Greg Harris is supposedly throwing well in his rehab. and will start
against the Cubs next Wednesday. 
The only interest seems to be if Sheffield can get the triple
crown.

The Padres were picked by many to finish way down, much less
contend. Next year may be their year, if everything clicks. They
need speed on the team. They need a LF and a 2B. 


> 
> Also:  I heard from a friend of mine that ... what's his name? ...
> Kevin Gross? ... pitched a no-hitter against the Giants very
> recently.  Details, anybody?
> 
> Just another homesick Californian,
> 
> Lyn


Yep, indeed he did. Gross, throwing only curveballs in the 9th inn,
no-hit the Midgets.

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Subject: Re: Mets Protected list
From: Jeff Pierce <JPIERCE@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 20 Aug 1992 19:29:23 EDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Anyone care to speculate as to who will be the first Met drafted?  I
notice that neither Bobby Jones or Tito Navarro are showing up on any
of the possible protected lists.  Does this mean that they're not
eligible for the draft?  The last time I looked, the Mets were planning
to convert Navarro into a second baseman, and they don't really have
anyone else (unless Donnells converts) to play there in the near future.
 
                                          Jeff
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From: hbrooks@uiatma.atmos.uiuc.edu (Harold_Brooks)
Subject: Runs Created Correction (Was Re: AL RC/27 Leaders)
Organization: NSSL
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:31:57 GMT

David Grabiner pointed out that Nelson Lu had provided me with the wrong 
formula for the stolen base version of runs created, so let's present the
totals again with the correct formula....

I've done the team and league numbers two different ways.  The first
is to sum the individual players' Runs Created.  The second is to sum the
individual players' raw numbers and then calculate RC from the sums.

RC1 = simple RC = (H+BB)*TB/(AB+BB)

RC2 = A * B / C where

A = H + BB - CS
B = TB + (.55 * SB)
C = AB + BB

With the correction to RC2, it now comes out essentially the same as 
RC1, perhaps a little better.  Data through 9 August.  Error in %.
Gee, the Red Sox offense really does suck and they're scoring more 
often than RC would indicate.  I sympathize with you, Val.  Do you think
Lou Gorman would be interested in a first baseman who's sure to turn it
around just any time now?  If so, have him call Dal Maxvill and tell Dal
that I referred him.:-)

                   Sum(Individual RC)           Sum(Individual raw stats)
Team           R     RC1     RC2  E(RC1) E(RC2)  RC1     RC2  E(RC1) E(RC2)
Baltimore     520   536.8   537.3   3.2   3.3   534.7   535.5   2.8   3.0
Boston        385   382.1   377.7   -.8  -1.9   377.6   373.6  -1.9  -3.0
California    416   387.3   385.4  -6.9  -7.4   384.4   381.9  -7.6  -8.2
Chicago       507   494.8   501.2  -2.4  -1.2   486.5   492.8  -4.0  -2.8
Cleveland     440   461.1   460.2   4.8   4.6   456.1   454.3   3.7   3.2
Detroit       549   528.4   523.1  -3.7  -4.7   525.1   519.6  -4.4  -5.4
Kansas City   436   446.6   444.5   2.4   1.9   441.2   438.7   1.2    .6
Milwaukee     493   464.1   469.0  -5.9  -4.9   458.3   462.1  -7.0  -6.3
Minnesota     553   538.4   537.3  -2.6  -2.8   532.1   530.3  -3.8  -4.1
New York      479   482.7   484.5    .8   1.1   480.3   481.6    .3    .5
Oakland       520   519.0   523.7   -.2    .7   512.3   515.9  -1.5   -.8
Seattle       478   515.4   513.5   7.8   7.4   503.8   501.0   5.4   4.8
Texas         500   508.4   510.0   1.7   2.0   505.6   506.0   1.1   1.2
Toronto       520   518.9   523.6   -.2    .7   515.3   519.8   -.9    .0
AL Totals    6796  6784.0  6790.9   -.2   -.1  6707.7  6705.9  -1.3  -1.3

Harold
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From: nissim@mary.fordham.edu (Leonard J. Nissim)
Subject: Re: Dodgers Beat Mets Again
Organization: Fordham University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:07:00 GMT
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In article <l96fdjINNh0a@mizar.usc.edu>, 
pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger) writes...
>The Dodgers defeated the Mets again Wednesday night and I got
>to see this one in person.  Hershiser pitched OK, dodging
>jams left and right while blanking the Mets for 8 innings.
> 
>The Dodgers scored in the 4th with a two out line shot home
>run by Henry Rodriquez off Dwight Gooden.  
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>					BleedsDodgerBlue
> 

It was the first game that Gooden has ever lost in Dodger Stadium;
his lifetime record there drops to 6-1.  It was well worth staying up 
until 1a.m. (local time here in NY) to hear it!  (After two fine nights 
of staying up very late to hear victories, it took a double espresso to
get me to work today.)  

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From: mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck McMath)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Phil Plantier??
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:13:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: MSD

In article <1992Aug14.015727.28541@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
csquared@coos.dartmouth.edu (C Squared) wrote:
> 
> Help!!!
> I'm calmly listening to the Red Sox game (I missed the pregame) and out of the
> blue (alright, I'm writing a paper as I'm listening, so I'm not hearing it
> all) Bob Starr says, "Phil Plantier has 72 hours to report to Pawtucket."
> What the @#@$%!!!  Valentine, anyone, what is going on???
> 

     A small note in this Friday's USA Today sports mentions that Plantier
was sent down Wednesday night (and talks about how he's pissed he played
with pain).  It's as much a surprise to me as to you; I believe most of the
papers missed it yesterday.

chuck
 
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From: sybesmer@uther.calvin.edu (Eric W Sybesma)
Subject: Re: Twins are done
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 18:43:52 GMT


On the average, the Twins and the A's have hovered around .590 all year.
My prediction  is that the winning team will win 96 games.  If this is
the case, and hopefully it is not, the Twins will have to go 28-12 in
their last 40 games to beat the A's.  That's 700 baseball.  The Twins
played .700 baseball once before this season.  They have to do it
again, for 6 weeks.  Three losses in every ten, and they go to the
ALCS.  Cheer up Twins' fans, and rally behind your team.

						Eric Sybesma

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From: dfl@math.wayne.edu (David Frohardt-Lane)
Subject: Re: Dream Team
Organization: Wayne State University Math Department, Detroit
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:03:02 GMT

In article <16c8lrINNgld@malibog.hal.COM> rc@hal.COM (Rolland Crunk) writes:
>
>I am *not* a Mets fan and never have been. Yes maybe my leaning towards
>David Cone is based on his superior strikeout numbers. But if a batter
>strikes out, there is no possibility of him to:
>
>	1. Get a base hit

True, but you're comparing strikeouts to other outs, so that's
irrelevant.

>	2. Advance a base runner 
>	3. Reach base on an error
	 
But don't forget,
	4. Ground into a double play

>
>How does a particular stadium have any effect on how many batters a
>pitcher stikes out? A better pitching mound? Yeah right...

Poor lighting for the batters.  That's what makes Shea a pitcher's park.

>Cone is 29 years old. Nolan Ryan is 45; why is it inconceivable that he
>is beginning to show what he is capable of?

Why is it inconceivable that Roger Clemens is just beginning to show
what he is capable of?  You're comparing two pitchers of the same age,
and you like one of them because you think he may get better?

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From: graham@walkinghorse.nrl.navy.mil (Graham G. Hunt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Mike Flanagan Sucks Toads!!
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:23:43 GMT
Distribution: usa


Boy - are you right; Mike Flanagan is positively awful. The game on Sunday 
was typical Flanny. He came in with the score 4-0, and since it was only the  
fourth inning, the O's were still in it. But Oates for some reason brings in  
Flanagan and he just falls apart, giving up 6 runs. The only reason he got
out of the inning was on a check-swing that the 3rd base ump signalled as a  
swing. (it WAS a check-swing) verybody knows it was an act of mercy. 
I don't know why they havne't dumped Flanagan yet - when Bob Milacki was 
blowing chunks before they had the sense to send him down and bring in the  
quality Arthur Rhodes, why are they handling this case differently?
And they've got to get their act together - they lost to the Mariners last  
night and Toronto's on the verge of blowing the pennant race open. They
need to get hot.
From: lsmith@femto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Twins/superstition
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:31:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Little Squids of the Poor

In article <l8liduINN9ae@saltillo.cs.utexas.edu> goolsbey@cs.utexas.edu (Keith Goolsbey) writes:

[Discussion of a former Minnesota closer deleted.]

Please. Never mention his name aloud. I fear that the player in question
may return if we speak his name aloud.

>Anyone remember Bobby Mitchell, Hosken Powell, Larry Hisle, Bombo Rivera,
>Darrell "3 errors on one play" Jackson etc. from the Twins' *very* lean years?

These were actually some of Minnesota's better bad players. The fielders
tended to be average. It was the pitching staff that usually stunk to high
heaven. One of my treasured memories is watching Terry Felton lose his
12th game in a row. 

*sigh* Those weren't the days.
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From: mard@quads.uchicago.edu (Adrian N. Marden)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Red Sox offensive woes
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:33:26 GMT
Reply-To: mard@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Aug17.191714.11499@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:

>Quik Quiz: Name the following player (stats through the All-Star break)...
>BA/OBP/SLG      G  AB  R  H 2B 3B HR RBI BB  K SB-CS
>.201/.316/.271 85 299 35 50  8  1  4  29 51 69  2-0

	Must be Jack "the Ripper" Clark, mainstay of the Red Sox offensive
juggernaut.


					Nick
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