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From: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se (John Dryselius TG/HB)
Subject: Re: Cricket in the Olympics
Reply-To: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:21:47 GMT

In article 25593@athena.mit.edu, solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
>
>American networks have never claimed more than 65 million (plus or minus 20
>million) viewers for any event. Despite the fact that your typical SuperBowl
>is a street clearing event, You don't get much more than twentyfive percent of
>the total population. Your claim of 2 Billion means that every single citizen
>of every single country that is into cricket watches that game. I would be
>very surprised if you reached 300 million on all of the networks televising
>the game combined and would be very interested in any documentation showing
>a higher figure. You can certainly find the figures for the superbowl. Either
>the comentators meant that's the total population of all countries which are
>really big on Cricket (which by no coincidence is that set of coutries which
>were to weak-minded to get rid of the brits :-), or they should be working for
>Bob Costas.
>
>Jason W. Solinsky


I agree on this. The two largest sport events in the world are the Olympic Games and the World Championship in soccer. I recall that for the final in the WC-90 in Mexico they estimated about 400-500 million viewers all over the world and that this is largest amount of people watching the same event. With all respect for cricket and the people in India I seriously doubt that cricket is more popular than the olympics/soccer and that there are more people in India than in the world.

John
From: kfansah@axion.bt.co.uk (Kwadwo Frimpong-Ansah)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: BOXING: Results from 30 July 1992
Keywords: Boxing
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:22:58 GMT
Reply-To: kfansah@axion.bt.co.uk (Kwadwo Frimpong-Ansah)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


The following boxers won their fights yesterday:

LIGHTWEIGHT

H Matumala	- Tan
J Lorey		- Fr
M Rudolph	- Ger
D Snarsky	- Pol
J Garcia	- Vir
O Hoya		- US
A Grigorian	- CIS
I Irwin		- Can

LIGHT WELTERWEIGHT

H Chouron	- Cub
A Zuelow	- Ger
M Piccirillo 	- It
J Kjall		- Fin  	beat  S Revilla 	- Sp
A Richardson 	- GB	beat  V Forrest	 	- US
D Tontcho	- Bul	beat  J Valladares	- Cub
From: fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: TEAM HANDBALL: Results 7/27
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:11:31 GMT
Expires: Mon, 10 Aug 1992 05:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.olympics
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.


		MEN'S TEAM HANDBALL COMPETITION
			MONDAY'S RESULTS

POOL A: Sweden 20, Czechoslovakia 14
	Iceland 19, Brazil 18
	South Korea 22, Hungary 18
POOL B: Romania 22, Egypt 21
	Unified Team 25, Germany 15
	France 18, Spain 16

			STANDINGS

POOL A		W	L	T	Pts.	PF	PA
Iceland		1	0	0	 2	19	18
South Korea	1	0	0	 2	22	18
Sweden		1	0	0	 2	20	14
Brazil		0	1	0	 0	18	19
Czechoslovakia	0	1	0	 0	14	20
Hungary		0	1	0	 0	18	22

POOL B		W	L	T	Pts.	PF	PA
France		1	0	0	 2	18	16
Romania		1	0	0	 2	22	21
Unified Team	1	0	0	 2	25	15
Egypt		0	1	0	 0	21	22
Germany		0	1	0	 0	15	25
Spain		0	1	0	 0	16	18

There are no matches Tuesday.
			WEDNESDAY'S SCHEDULE
South Korea vs. Sweden
France vs. Unified Team
Hungary vs. Brazil
Germany vs. Romania
Egypt vs. Spain
Czechoslovakia vs. Iceland

As many of you pointed out, Sweden IS here, instead of Switzerland.  That's
the last time I get my info from clari.sports.olympic...  :)  Also my
apologies for any heart attacks I may have caused in Sweden.
Women's play will begin Thursday, July 30th.
From: sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: TripleCast Update
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:57:45 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Jul23.211649.5089@wuecl.wustl.edu> van@seurat.wustl.edu (Van Vo) writes:
(some stuff deleted)
>
>As for the TripleCast complaints and the argument that getting the TC is
>a vote for rampant capitalism, you are missing simple capitalism.  You
>don't have a RIGHT to get free TV.  Someone has to pay for a broadcast,
>and I, as an advertising executive would not buy a second of advertising
>for the middle of a marathon.  So if you want to watch the marathon, you
>will simply have to pay for it.  If you love marathons enough, more than
>x dollars, then you'll be willing to pay x dollars for it.  If you don't
>like marathons that much, then DON'T BUY IT and DON'T COMPLAIN.

A few people have been complaining about the OTC because they
just don't like PPV.  However, the majority of complaints 
in this and other groups has been about the number of sports
(or lack of sports) covered, and the relative inflexibility
of the packages offered.  Many people have stated that they would
buy OTC if their favorite sports were covered; others (like me)
would like to buy only one of the three "colors" but most cable
companies don't offer this option.

Also, none of this has anything to do with capitalism.  NBC has
EXCLUSIVE rights to broadcast the Olympics in the USA.  The cable
companies which are carrying the OTC normally have EXCLUSIVE
rights to provide cable in a perticular geographic area.  
EXCLUSIVE = MONOPOLY.  I would be much in favor of a competitve
system where I can choose between two or more tv stations,
thereby encouraging those who provide the services I desire.
>

>Also, for some reason, you guys seem to think that the reason anyone
>would get the TripleCast is to see the US basketball team.  Here's
>some news: I don't give a damn about the US basketball team.  I got
>the TripleCast to see more than 70 hours of world class volleyball
>in its entirety (not cut up by CBS/ESPN).  A steal for $125.  I will
>also get a taste of real fencing as a fringe benefit.  (World class
>table tennis is boring, and remember, I love table tennis)  I feel the
>benefits justify the cost.  Everyone has their threshold, except those
>stupid people who think they are following holy principles.  My
>suggestion:  if you don't want it, don't get it, but don't take away
>our option.

I'm glad your favorite sport is well covered.  Those who crave
boxing, gymnastics, et al, probably feel the same way.  
Many of us are not this lucky.

>Ah, I feel much better.  I guess I'll have to unsubscribe to this
>newsgroup :).

Do contrary opinions bother you that much?

>
>Van Vo


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From: brianc@jekyll.ucsf.edu (Brian Colfer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Amateur vs. Pro (Was: Re: TripleCast Update)
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:39:57 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Francisco, Dept of Lab Med

In article <1992Jul24.144952.12822@odin.diku.dk> thorn@diku.dk (Peter Tjornsted) writes:
>>|> vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad) writes:
>>|> I repeat, the only true amateurs who are good are idle aristocrats and
>>|> millionairs who do not have to work. All other athletes receive money for
>>|> their ahtletic performance.
>kenl@origami.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ken Lehner) writes:
>>Anita Nall 
(US) and 
>>Joe Hudepohl 
(?)
are high schooler students.

>>So, "vlad", are they "idle aristocrats" or "millionairs" (sic)?  If
>>not, then they must be receiving "money for their ahtletic
>>performance".  What nefarious sponsor do they have, other than their
>>parents?

Some of the US "amature" Olympians are indirectly supported  by their
sport.  Most of the Track and Field have made a lot of money from
endorsements of products.  In fact most of the regular pro athletes,
Michael Jordan etc., make most of their money from endorsements of
products.

Others are not at all supported... one gymnast's parents took a second
mortgage on their house to pay for their daughters' career.  Nall
actually uptil fairly recently the money has come from her parents.
She has done a couple of endorsements...

>Peter alias thorn@freja.diku.dk
>They probably have a good scolarship at their highscools, paying for their
>education. That's just another way of getting paid for your sporting ability.

Nall goes to a parochial school which proabably costs around $6K per
year in tuition, a very good one in my neighborhood costs about that
much.  I know that some HS's will give athletic scholarships but I
don't know about her situation.

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From: tim@kimba.catt.citri.edu.au (Tim Liddelow)
Subject: Aussie Boomers clean up
Keywords: Basketball
Organization: CATT Centre at CITRI, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 02:41:52 GMT

Go boomers!  Australia beat Puerto Rico nicely by 40 points.  Of course, the
"dream team" thrashed Angola.  Pity Sir Charles decided to throw his elbows
around unnecessarily.  

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From: cs455139@ucs.usl.edu (Loo Tze-Yeong)
Subject: Re: Summer olympics trivia quiz
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:19:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.180431.18241@mksol.dseg.ti.com> roderick@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Brett Roderick) writes:
>The following is a summer olympic trivia
>quiz from the cafeteria at work. Can someone
>send me the appropriate year(s) to match the
>host city.                                      
>
Year   City                         choices
>1972  Munich, Germany              1896
>1932  Los Angeles, U.S.A           1900
>1984  Los Angeles, U.S.A           1904
>1960  Rome, Italy                  1908
>1936  Berlin, Germany              1912
>1956  Melbourne, Australia         1920
>1908  London, Great Britain        1924
>1948  London, Great Britain        1928
>1988  Seoul, S. Korea              1932
>1900  Paris, France                1936
>1924  Paris, France                1948
>1968  Mexico City, Mexico          1952
>1904  St. Louis, U.S.A.            1956
>1896  Athens, Greece               1960
>1992  Barcelona, Spain             1964
>1980  Moscow, U.S.S.R              1968
>1964  Tokyo, Japan                 1972
>1912  Stockholm, Sweden            1976
>1976 Montreal, Canada             1980
>1920 Antwerp, Belgium             1984
>1928 Amsterdam, Holland           1988
>1952 Helsinki, Finland            1992
>
>
>
>-- 
>Brett Roderick                
>roderick@ap040.csc.ti.com  

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    BY CS455139@UCS.USL.EDU
       Tze Y Loo
From: h234_045@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: American basketball players
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:04:38 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

To some American basketball players:

No matter how good you are, you should respect others.
You are brilliant and DAFT. 
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From: alvstad@mari.acc.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Subject: Re: Let's vote  --- Who is the most unselfish player on the Dream Team?
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:42:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.012505.17155@colorado.edu> helen@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (Helen Wong) writes:
>In article <Jul.29.18.59.15.1992.10302@remus.rutgers.edu> chuanli@remus.rutgers.edu (chuanli) writes:
>>I think "no ego" should be the No 1 quality for the  palyers on the
>>Dream Team. Who do you think is the most unselfish player? 
>>I vote for Ewing.  I will post the result after the final game.  
>>
>>**********************************************
>>Franck
>>Rutgers University
>>New Brunswick, NJ
>>**********************************************
>
>
>Of course, majic johnson....he is the best point guard.
>He makes the team unselfish!!!!

Sorry...John Stockton wins by default.  He hasn't played yet!!!  (Laettner is
a close second because he doesn't play much)   :) :)

***************				Joel Alvstad
***************				St. Olaf College
*****     *****				Northfield, MN
*****     *****				alvstad@stolaf.edu
***************
***************
*****     *****
*****     *****
*****     *****


If anyone cares, the Minnesota Twins will repeat in '92!!!


Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
From: etchuck@helix.nih.gov (Emil Thomas Chuck)
Subject: Re: Let's vote  --- Who is the most unselfish player on the Dream Team?
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:05:47 GMT

chuanli@remus.rutgers.edu (chuanli) writes:
:I think "no ego" should be the No 1 quality for the  palyers on the
:Dream Team. Who do you think is the most unselfish player? 
:I vote for Ewing.  I will post the result after the final game.  
:
:**********************************************
:Franck
:Rutgers University
:New Brunswick, NJ
:**********************************************

I won't keep scores on this one. I think Clyde Drexler qualifies as the "no
ego" player on Team USA. Best overall player (on and off the court) to me
is Karl Malone. Yeah, Jordan should be there too, but he's having that
interesting dispute with regards to Nike and Reebok.

--
Emil Thomas Chuck 			etchuck@helix.nih.gov
BioSystems 26 (1992) 177-183. (3d author)
"Spending the taxpayers' money as I want." 
DISCLAIMER: You don't think I'd speak for the government, do you? 
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From: dmartin@pico.engr.mun.ca (Dan Martin)
Subject: ROWING: day 1 results
Keywords: Canadian's cruise to finals
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:20:17 GMT

Women's pair without cox
------------------------

1st	Canada		7:41.19
2nd	Germany		  +2.41
3rd	Japan		 +13.97


Women's Four without cox
------------------------

1st	Canada		6:44.11
2nd	USA		
3rd	Romania

Men's pair without cox
----------------------
1st    Great Britian	6.36.53
2nd	??
3rd     ??

note:  Winners go directly to the finals

The only source I have is television and unfortunately they show
very little about rowing until the finals start.  If anyone has more
information on any of the rowing events please feel free to contact me
and I will display the updates( giving credit were credit is due).


regards,
Dan


email: dmartin@pico.engr.mun.ca
or     martin_d@bigvax.engr.mun.ca

Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Subject: Re: Cricket in the Olympics
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:39:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.190144.7035@ecst.csuchico.edu>, jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul29.100406.23629@athena.mit.edu> solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
|> >In article <1992Jul29.060526.27572@ecst.csuchico.edu>, jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:
|> >
|> >|> An estimated 2 BILLION people watched Pakistan defeat England in the 
|> >|> Cricket World Cup in Melbourne earlier this year.  
|> >
|> >This is pretty rediculous. Do you realize the incredible disruptions that would
|> >occur if this happened. I find it hard to believe that their have ever been
|> >2 Billion people watching TV simultaneously.
|> 
|> That is what the Channel 9 (Aus.) Commentatots said.  Maybe it was a rough
|> estimate:-).  American networks often make calims of over billion viewers
|> for such things as Superbowl and Heavyweight fights,  although I have not
|> heard one for these olympics.

American networks have never claimed more than 65 million (plus or minus 20
million) viewers for any event. Despite the fact that your typical SuperBowl
is a street clearing event, You don't get much more than twentyfive percent of
the total population. Your claim of 2 Billion means that every single citizen
of every single country that is into cricket watches that game. I would be
very surprised if you reached 300 million on all of the networks televising
the game combined and would be very interested in any documentation showing
a higher figure. You can certainly find the figures for the superbowl. Either
the comentators meant that's the total population of all countries which are
really big on Cricket (which by no coincidence is that set of coutries which
were to weak-minded to get rid of the brits :-), or they should be working for
Bob Costas.

Jason W. Solinsky
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From: etchuck@helix.nih.gov (Emil Thomas Chuck)
Subject: Re: RESULTS: Basketball (Day 2)
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:22:40 GMT

tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
:>USA 103 CRO 73
:>
:>USA		M	FG	FT	O-T	A	PF	P
:>
:>Steals	32	(Jordan 8, Pippen 5, Bird 4, Drexler 4, Barkley 4,
:>		Robinson 2, Mullin 2, Ewing, Bird, Malone)
:>CROATIA
:>
:>Turnovers 19	(Kukoc 7, Petrovic 5, Komazec 2, Radja 2, Cvjeticanin,
:>		Alanovic, Vrankovic)
:
:How?
Hey, I only type 'em in. I wish I knew sometimes. 

--
Emil Thomas Chuck 			etchuck@helix.nih.gov
BioSystems 26 (1992) 177-183. (3d author)
"Spending the taxpayers' money as I want." 
DISCLAIMER: You don't think I'd speak for the government, do you?
From: vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Hockey:preview July 24
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:18:32 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

>In article <0095E0DB.55830FC0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>>Hi there,
>>
>>I am posting the excerpts of an article by BBC World service
>>correspondent Malcolm Robertson in the July (olympic) issue
>>of London Calling. He has analysed the chances of each of the
>>contenders.
>>
>>So here it is:
>
>What ever the euros have got to say, two out of three medals will be
>asian. It would be fun to see them winning. 

You sound so confident that I presume that you are willing to place a large
monetary bet on this. OK, how does $10 thousand sound? Are you willing to
bet it?

By the way, which 2 Asian teams did you have in mind? One is Pakistan. What
is the other one? India which has just been humiliated by Germany 3-0?
Waht other Asian team has a chance?

>>" India are nolonger the undisputed kings of world hockey. But
>>they could play a part in deciding the destination of the gold
>>medal. They are unlikely to win it, but will be dangerous 
>>opponents for the other teams in their pool.

Looks like the BBC analysis was much more competent than yours.

In any case, are you willing to make the bet?

Vlad

Employer disagrees
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics,rec.sport.baseball
From: gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso)
Subject: BASEBALL:  day 2 results
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:50:49 GMT

RESULTS for July 27, 1992 
------------------------- 
Cuba  18,  Italy  1
United States  10,  Taiwan  9
Japan  12,  Spain  1
Puerto Rico  7, Dominican Republic  5
 
 
OLYMPIC STANDINGS
-----------------
 
Team            W       L       GB      F       A
-----------------------------------------------------
Cuba            2       0       --     26       1
Japan           2       0       --     21       1
United States   2       0       --     14      10 
Taiwan          1       1       1      17      12
Puerto Rico     1       1       1       7      14
Dominican R.    0       2       2       5      17
Spain           0       2       2       2      16
Italy           0       2       2       1      26
 
Games for July 28, 1992 
-----------------------
United States  vs.  Italy
Taiwan  vs.  Puerto Rico
Dominican Republic  vs.  Spain
Japan  vs.  Cuba
 
Feel free to contact me with questions or comments!!!

==========================================================================  
Christopher Gattuso			

gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com
Motorola, Inc.
Schaumburg, Illinois

"One word sums up probably the responsibility of any vice president,
 and that one word is 'to be prepared'."
                -- Vice President Dan Quayle
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From: dsr@bnr.co.uk (D.S.Riches)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Codes for Countries
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:50:07 GMT
Reply-To: dsr@bnr.co.uk (D.S.Riches)
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

In the referenced article fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West) writes:
>In article <9220921.20755@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>>Can someone please post the codes for all (or most) of the countries?
>
>This is what I got from the NBC coverage (about 148 of the 172 countries):
>
>GER	Germany
>GRE	Greece
>GHA	Ghana
>GRN	Grenada
>GUM	Guam
>GUA	Guatemala
>GUI	Guinea
>GEQ	Equatorial Guinea
>GUY	Guyana
>
>Other countries that I saw but didn't see the abbreviations:
>Bosnia-Hercegovina, Brunei, Burkina Faso, Maldives, Mozambique, Fiji,
>Mauritius, San Marino, United Arab Emirates, Monaco, Syria.
>There are also about 12 other countries attending that I didn't catch at
>all.
>Can anyone help?

Yeah,

 GBR	Great Britain !
   Dave Riches
   Email:  David.S.Riches@bnr.co.uk
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           Harlow, Essex. CM17 9NA.  England
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From: brendan@cs.uq.oz.au (Brendan Mahony)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Hockey : Sunday
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:25:18 GMT
Reply-To: brendan@cs.uq.oz.au

In <0095E296.18FA0CE0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>Australia b Argentina 7-0

Oh Lord, they're doing it again.
Why can't they save a bit of form for the finals occasionally :-(.

--
When soldiers form lines or hollow squares, you call it reason.
When wild geese in flight take the form of a letter V, you say instinct.
When the homogeneous atoms of a mineral arrange themselves into shapes
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