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From: chris@boingo.med.jhu.edu (Chris)
Subject: HP3000series44 plus peripherals for sale
Summary: Used HP3000wit 20 terminals 3 disks,etc.. donated to non-profit
Keywords: HP3000 MPE USED HP 3000
Organization: The Johns Hopkins Hospital-Body CT Imaging Lab
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:03:23 GMT

I have been asked to see if I can find a buyer for an HP3000 series 44
computer with 3 disk drives, 1 line prionter, 2 dot matrix, 20 
2629C terminals, a 9-track drive, and a 10kva power conditioner which
was donated to a not-for-profit drug rehab program in Miami, FL.
It has some extra memory added.  
	The system runs the MPE operating system and all the documentation
is there.

I don't think one would set this
system up, as it is fairly old, but I think a user could get a bargin price

on backup cards or peripherals for an existing system.  Also, the terminals
are nice and I can let them go for $40 each.
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From: barrett@daisy.ee.und.ac.za (Alan P Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Problems with 'named'
Date: 6 Jan 1993 12:23:03 +0200
Organization: Dept. Elec. Eng., Univ. Natal, Durban, S. Africa
NNTP-Posting-Host: daisy.ee.und.ac.za

In article <1993Jan5.211134.14507@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>,
system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson)) writes:
> I fixed my $INCLUDE files so that the SOA record was in the master file,
> and this did make things better, but didn't fix all the problems.

bind 4.9 will allow SOA records in include files.  Earlier versions
didn't work.

> We still got some data corruption. Note that we also use the optional
> capability on $INCLUDE to specify the domain name to be appended to all
> partially qualified names - my guess would be that that is broken in
> the BSD 4.8.3 code too.

This feature works fine for me with Berkeley bind 4.8.1 and 4.9-alpha.
I don't know about the HP versions.

> As for using non-BSD patches to make named work - what else can we do?

I have sent in some patches to get bind 4.9-alpha to work under HP-UX.
If Paul Vixie accepts my patches then I expect that bind 4.9 will work
on HP-UX with no fuss.

> We are the master nameserver for our domain, yet none of our HP
> systems (Domain/OS or HP-UX) provides a named that works in our
> environment. Our users want to use the system, and do things like e-mail
> reliably.

If you don't want to wait for 4.9 (which I think is likely to
go into public beta testing within the next couple of weeks) or
for HP, you could try my patches to 4.8.1.  They are available in
ftp.ee.und.ac.za:/pub/unix/bind4.8.1+apb.diff.  Sorry, I don't have a
4.8.3 version of these patches, but other folk have reported successfully
merging them into 4.8.3.

--apb
Alan Barrett, Dept. of Electronic Eng., Univ. of Natal, Durban, South Africa
RFC822: barrett@ee.und.ac.za                    Bang: m2xenix!undeed!barrett
From: ronaldl@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Ron Lawson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:29:32 GMT
Subject: Re: 3270 Emulation Software for HPUX
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

David,

HP sells a set of products called SNAplus that contain a variety of
SNA applications, including 3270 terminal emulation.  Ask your HP
Sales Representative for more details.

Ron Lawson
Software Engineer
Hewlett-Packard Company
ronaldl@cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: craig@fc.hp.com
 (Craig Bryant)
Subject: Re: HP 7xx problem with virtual memory (thrashing)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:49:12 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.hp
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Workstation Kernel, Ft. Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.1 PL6]

System Admin (Mike Peterson) (system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca) wrote:
: Some added data: after boot, and for several days, the system would
: report that about 60 MB of our 128 MB was "free". After that, the "free"
: memory would decline slowly, until the system would become useless
: when about 5 MB or less was free. The number of processes remained more
: or less the same (i.e. not a huge number of defunct/zombies eating
: memory), and no task would show more "SIZE" than it would when the
: system was booted. It seems there is a black hole for memory; we have
: one program which may not be well-behaved about returning malloc'ed
: memory, but the system MUST recover all such memory when the process
: dies no matter how screwed up the process becomes.

	There is a memory leak associated with NFS in HP-UX 8.07.  It is
	fixed by patch PHKL_1602.  It is also fixes in HP-UX 9.0.  The leak
	only occurs with some non-HP machines as clients that do reads in
	sizes greater than the block size of the server file system.  It can
	also occur if a CDROM file system is export through NFS.  In both
	cases it only occurs if the read returns 0 bytes.  For example, when
	reading a 16k file the reads will normally be done in 8k chunks and
	the third read will return 0 bytes.

Craig Bryant
Workstation Kernel
Hewlett Packard
Fort Collins, CO

	I don't speak for HP, only for myself.
From: paul@eye.com (Paul B. Booth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: New Wave Mail?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:08:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: 3D/EYE, Inc.  Ithaca, NY

Hi-

Is anybody familiar with this product?  I need to tie a few PC's into the unix
net (9000/700's mostly) for file sharing and email.  So far, ncsa telnet or
FTP's pc/tcp have done a great job for file sharing, but neither has a viable
email client (I know, pc/tcp has vmail, but the interface is a bit weak).
Recently, someone mentioned an hp New Wave mail client that speaks smtp, but
I've not yet tracked down anyone who knows anything about it.  Anybody in
netland using this puppy?  Any _other_ suggestions for a decent smtp email
client for a pc?   Any wisdom is deeply appreciated.

Regards-

-- 
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From: kzyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Xt, Xlib, X11 for HP9000/730
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:48:04 EST
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

Howdy,


I am trying to compile the X libraries (X11 and Xt) in a 
HP9000/730 system. I have already installed GNU CC.

What parts of X do I need to FTP to get this? Does anyone
have compiled these libraries from the mit distribution?
Could someone send me a copy?

Thanks,
Edval
esantos@ee.cornell.edu
From: bouyer@babette.ensta.fr (Manuel Bouyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Problems with HPterm and tcsh
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:38:14 GMT
Organization: Ecole Nationale Superieure de Techniques Avancees, Paris
NNTP-Posting-Host: babette.ensta.fr

I have some problems with HPterm (Xwindow) amd tcsh: HPterm uses itself the 
arrow keys and don't send the sequences to tcsh. I'd prefer not to use xterm,
because HPterm has some usefull options (as -map). Is there a solution to have
the advantages of HPterm AND tcsh ?
                 Thanks.
Manuel bouyer, bouyer@ensta.fr
From: drs@pigpen.hi.com (David Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: 3270 Emulation Software for HPUX
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:23:24 -0000
Organization: Hitachi Computer Products, OSSD division
NNTP-Posting-Host: pigpen.hi.com

Hello,

I am trying to allow connections from HP 68xxx based machines running HPUX 8.0 to a mainframe in our facility.  Specifically I am looking for 3270 connections.  What I need comes in two parts:

I am looking for 3270 terminal emulation packages to run under X11.  Ideally there would not be a dependance on VUE but would accept other windows managers etc.

I am also looking for the mainframe side.  What hardware/software would I need on that end?

Any ideas/pointers would be appreciated.

Thanks much,

David Smith
uunet!hicomb!drs
drs@hicomb.hi.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: chrisf@brtph316.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Chris Fulmer)
Subject: debugging with stripped executables...
Reply-To: woodstock!chris@mcnc.org
Organization: BNR Dept 3B91, RTP
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:56:50 GMT

Hi there.  This has been a real PITA....

When our software goes out into the field, the executables are
stripped.  However, if we were to get a core dump, it'd be nice
to be able to debug it under xdb or cdb.

Now, the symbol table is not dumped with the core file, so it
should be possible to just use the unstripped binary, and have
everything be hunky-dorey.  Unforuently, it's not.  We get messages
like "core cannot be the core file for XXXX; ignoring core".  Not
much of a help.

We're running (yikes) HP-UX 6.5.  Any clues?  Thanks. 

------------------------------------------------------
Chris Fulmer                    Bell-Northern Research
Sr. Software Designer            Research Triangle, NC
mail to woodstock!chris@mcnc.org (preferable) or...
        chrisf@bnr.ca            (not so preferable)
Oh yeah.  The usual disclaimers apply here.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
Subject: What negative effects can setting filesystem asynchronous IO have?
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:11:53 GMT

I've got a 9000/710 running HP-UX 8.07 (9.1 in maybe a month, hopefully) and
there is a fair amount of disk I/O going on on this system.  During peak loads
I see the percent of CPU in the "I/O wait" state running at around 25% and
idle CPU at around 25% as well.  The I/O wait CPU starts ramping up for me in
a non linear fashion starting at around 10% I/O wait 55% idle, and I believe
it has to do with the size of the disk cache (I'm using the standard 10% of
available mem, which is 48M on this machine) not being quite large enough for
the commonly accessed parts of the disk to all stay in cache.

I can increase the size of the disk cache, and am planning to, but I am
wondering what effect I will see if I change the kernel parameter for the
filesystem to be asynchronous in nature for writes, rather than synchronous.
Will this lower that I/O wait CPU total, and give up more CPU to calculation
and allowing higher loads to be placed on the system CPU-wise, ignoring the
need for a larger disk cache?  Or will that not really help at all in that
regard?  And are there any risks inherent in having the writes performed
asynchronously?  I've heard several times Suns do this by default, so it
can't be *that* risky, and the data being written to disk is not exactly
"mission critical", so if a few minutes worth are lost before an unexpected
power failure or the like, that's not a problem.  Any other hidden gotchas
here other than that?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bt@irfu.se (Bo Thide')
Subject: Re: PCL to PostScript translator
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:26:02 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden

In article <FURNISH.93Jan7002216@dino.ph.utexas.edu> furnish@dino.ph.utexas.edu (Geoffrey Furnish) writes:
>In article <86239@ut-emx.uucp> xdaa374@ut-emx.uucp (William T. Douglass) writes:
>
>   According to the Response Center, LaserROM will only send output in
>   PCL format (LaserJet et. al.)  This means we cannot print formatted
>   output from the LaserROM to our printers.  We do not have a
>   LaserJet available, and the LaserWriters are dedicated to
>   PostScript and thus cannot be set to PCL mode.
>
>   We are looking for a filter that will convert PCL formating to
>   postscript, or even to "dumb" printer formatting (overstrike and
>   backspace).  If anyone knows of a solution, I would be most
>   grateful to hear from you.
>
>   Thx.
>   -- 
>   Bill Douglass, TCADA
>
>I have another solution.  How about we all rant and rave and scream at
>HP for making this ABSOLUTELY IDIOTIC functionality in the first
>place. grrrrrrrrr I can't even begin to tell how sick I am of this
>same problem.
>
>At my site, we do have a printer which can do PCL, but it is not
>possible to configure lp to automatically kick it into PCL mode (don't
>ask--you don't really want to know...).  If I could only get LaseROM
>or LROM to write the PCL formatted stuff to a _file_ instead of only
>to a printer, I could do what I need.  
>
>How this obviously desirable functionality came to be omitted, one can
>only guess.  
>
>Geoff Furnish
>furnish@dino.ph.utexas.edu
>

About 75% of the installed base of 9 million laser printers in the 
world speak PCL.  Less than 25% speak PostScript.

Bo
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: gordon@madmax.uwaterloo.ca (Gordon R. Strachan)
Subject: Re: Batchjob que for hp700
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:41:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.203704.12846@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson)) writes:
>In article <1ickjuINNl1f@transfer.stratus.com> dean@nassau.hw.stratus.com (Dean Markarian) writes:
>I am been running:
>
>batch (ftp.cs.utoronto.ca in /pub/batch.tar.Z) - works on Sun, SGI,
>   Ultrix, Apollo Domain/OS, Stardent, MIPS. This is the one I use.
>   Does not work across a network. Users can get mail when job finishes.
>   Starts/suspends jobs based on load average, time of day, etc.
>   I have disabled the job time limits since it causes the daemon
>   to hang/die, but otherwise it works fine.
>   This is also available from iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu, or I will
>   post my version with the time limits disabled if there is enough
>   demand.
>

Mike, if this is the code I ported over and sent to you then I think I have
finally found the bug in the time limit code.  I have been meaning to send this
off to you for about a month now.  Anyway, the problem I found was in the
list walking code in the PruneProcs function and is only hit on systems which
have more programs running than the hash table size (probably why I never
caught it for so long).  Anyway, sorry it took me so long to get back to
you but my to do list has been extremely long recently.  Here is the new
PruneProcs function.  Could you please try it and let me know if it fixes
the bug you found.

PruneProcs()

{
 struct ProcessTime *current;
 struct ProcessTime *previous;
 int i;

 for(i = 0; i <HASHSIZE; i++)
  {
   current = previous = HashTable[i];
   while(current != NULL)
    {
     if(current->LastSeen != Round)
      {
       mdebug1("Removing process %d\n",current->Pid);
       RemoveFromParent(current->PPid,current->DataSize + current->ChildDSize);
       if(current == HashTable[i])
	{
	 HashTable[i] = current->next;
	 free(current);
	 current = previous = HashTable[i];
	}
       else
	{
	 previous->next = current->next;
	 free(current);
	 current = previous->next;
	}
      }
     else
      {
       previous = current;
       current = previous->next;
      }
    }
  }
}


There is also another bug I found in the code which "program" statement in
the batch profile.  The batchd program uses the system call to execute the
command.  But, at least on HP-UX, this causes a sigchld to be generated.  The
batch daemon then reaps it but doesn't recognize the pid of the child so
assumes a major error occures and drains the queue.  Right now my work around
is to disable sigchld prior to the system call but this doesn't always work.

Anyway, please let me know if this fixes the bug in the resource limit code.

Gordon

PS
Once again sorry I took so long.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: sysdave@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (David L. Walsh)
Subject: Changing boot device from within HPUX
Summary: Can the boot device be changed from within HPUX?
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:54:53 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville
Keywords: HPUX boot device 700

Is it possible to change the primary and alternate boot device on a 700
from with in HPUX?  Can any other of the BOOT_ADMIN information be
modified with the system up and running?  

To me this seems like it should be possible, because when installing
HPUX on a 700 it automaticly modifies the primary boot device 
during the installation process.  

Does anyone have any ideas?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no (Steinar Haug)
Subject: How can I send Ethernet packets from a user process?
Organization: SINTEF DELAB, Trondheim, Norway.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:36:13 GMT

I posted this one right before Christmas, and didn't get a single response
(except for one "me too, please"). Maybe I'll have better luck now that we
are all back at work again :-)

Steinar
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm trying to send Ethernet packets from a user level process, using the
interface defined in lan(7). The system is a 433s, running 8.0. I have tried
the examples in /usr/netdemo/LLA, and these work just fine. But as soon as I
try to send Ethernet packets instead of 802.3 packets, I get an EINVAL. What
I'm doing:

	- The machine has 2 ethernet interfaces. lanscan shows that lan0 is
	configured for Ether and 802.3, lan1 is configured for Ether only.

	- I'm trying to use the example from /usr/netdemo/LLA/nput.c, and
	substituting LOG_TYPE_FIELD instead of LOG_DSAP in the ioctl. The
	ioctl call returns EINVAL.

	- The Ether type field that I'm using is legal according to the
	lan(7) man page, it is *not* one of the reserved ones. I have tried
	several different Ether types, but always get the same error.

	- lan(7) specifies that EINVAL will be returned for several reasons,
	one of them being that a LOG_TYPE_FIELD was sent to an 802.3 device.
	I'm speculating that this may be what the system is trying to tell
	me, but I don't really know...

I have assumed that one simply needs to use LOG_TYPE_FIELD, and specify an
interface that has Ether encapsulation enabled, in order to send Ethernet
packets as opposed to 802.3 packets. Is there something else that needs to
be done also? Does somebody have a working example of how to send Ethernet
packets?

Steinar Haug, system/networks administrator
SINTEF DELAB, University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Email: Steinar.Haug@delab.sintef.no, 
	sthaug@idt.unit.no, steinar@tosca.er.sintef.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: will@austin.ibm.com (Will Fiveash)
Subject: HP-UX usleep equivalent?
Originator: will@vulcan.austin.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:49:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: IBM, Austin, Tx.

Does HP UX have an equivalent system call to usleep which accepts an
argument with microsecond granularity?  The closest system call I could
find was sleep (whole second granularity) which is too coarse for my
purposes.

-- 
Will Fiveash,  "My opinions above, facts below."
Internet:  will@austin.ibm.com
From: dhandly@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Dennis Handly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: cc: Internal error 5705.
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:13:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Cal Language Lab

>Anyone familiar with what *this* highly user friendly message means 
>It appears to occur in the /lib/ccom pass.

Well if you have Pascal installed you can look in /usr/lib/paserrs
and see the following:

5705 Ustack underflow (5705)

$    CAUSE:  Internal compiler error.

$    ACTION: Report error to your nearest HP Service Representative.

I'm not sure that you'll like that any better.  :-)

Pascal has printed this message out for awhile, but I've just changed
it to print out the statement number in question so the user can 'fiddle'
with the code to try to make the problem go away.  I.e. simplify and
use extra temporaries.

Normally this error occurs when the front-end doesn't follow the correct
code generation protocol.  It usually occurs in conditional branching
like if, while, and (?:).

Your problem is the following???

                             SR NUMBER: 4701132837
 DESC: Compiler generates Internal error 5705

 PROBLEM TEXT

 The program below gets internal error 5705. It seems that
 the C front-end is generating incorrect intermediate code
 causing the internal error.

 The internal error is produced when a conditional expression
 with the ternary operator, evaluated for effect and not for
 value, performs as a side effect a store into a narrow type
 such as float, char or short.

 TEMPORARY SOLUTION

 Use the result returned from the conditional expression:
 Either assign it to a dummy temporary, test it, or use it
 in a function call. For example:

 typedef struct Submessage { unsigned char type, dump; } Submessage;
 Submessage *CurSubMsg;

 yylex() {
    int dumb; /* don't need to use this */
    dumb = (2 == 1 ? (CurSubMsg->dump=1) : (CurSubMsg->type=2));
 }

 FIX INFORMATION

    This functionality will appear in:
       HP-UX  version 9.00, and cc version A.9.18.
       MPE/iX version 5.0, and ccxl version A.05.00.


Or maybe 4701157420 which is very similar.
From: pdg@cup.hp.com (Paul Gootherts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP-UX version of setpriority/getpriority
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:33:52 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

> #include <sys/syscall.h>
> 
> #define getpriority(which, who) \
>            syscall(SYS_GETPRIORITY,which,who)
> #define setpriority(which, who, niceval) \
>            syscall(SYS_SETPRIORITY, which, who, niceval)
> 
> Hope that helps.

This is not supported and not recommended.  The only supported way to
make a system call is through the entry point supplied in libc.

--

Paul Gootherts, pdg@cup.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp