From: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Subject: Re: Vengsarkar's Record
Reply-To: sanjiva@ecrc.de (Sanjiva Prasad)
Organization: European Computer-Industry Research Centre, Munich
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:53:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.050938.21952@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> karra@mr-pibb.cs.wisc.edu (Vishwanath Karra) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.033750.17352@cs.yale.edu> papadopoulos-dimitrios@CS.YALE.EDU (Dimitrios Papadopoulos) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug13.025012.2646@tamsun.tamu.edu> svb0224@zeus.tamu.edu (BALIJEPALLI, SRIDHARREDDY V) writes:
>>>
>>>         Career Record of Dilip Vengsarkar:
>>>
>>>         Break up of test centuries :
>>>
>>>         5 against England : 103 Lord's 1979, 157 Lord's 1982, 126* Lord's
>>>         1986, 102* Leeds 1986, 137 Kanpur 1984-85.
>>>
>>>         6 against West Indies : 157* Calcutta 1978, 109 Delhi 1978, 159
>>>         Delhi 1983, 102* Calcutta 1987, 102 Delhi 1987, 100 Bombay 1983.
>>>
>>>         2 against Australia : 112 Bangalore 1979, 164* Bombay 1986.
>>>         2 against Pakistan : 146* Delhi 1979, 109 Ahmedabad 1987.
>>>         2 against Sri Lanka : 166 Cuttack 1986-87, 153 Nagpur 1986-87.
>>
>>Isn't it interesting to note that except against england-he hasn't scored
>>a century against any other country outside India.
>>
>>--Pushkar
>
>Before this turns into a flame-war similar to the one about JM, let's get some
>facts straight:

Doing just that, ... both Pushkar's and Vishwanath's observations are
significant.  Here we had someone dubbed as India's #2 batsman (after the
great Sunny) who basically had two spurts of prolific scoring, and a lot of
it on rather dead pitches.  In his first 6 years, he had 6 centuries -- a few 
of them against weak bowling sides.  I saw his 109 against a much weakened WI
(Kalli's team), and it was a patchy innings -- a flurry of fours followed by
long periods of awkward playing, being beaten or sticking out a fishing rod
to every other ball.  And his fielding was always quite bad.  
Basically, his brilliance in 86-87 redeemed his potential and place as a top
batsman.    BTW, once someone had posted a detailed career record of Sunny.
Does anyone have a similar one for the Colonel?

This was in sharp contrast to Jimmy Amarnath, who (other than his
not-very-memorable '83 series against Marshall) seemed to mark every comeback
of his with a century or a match-saving innings.  "That bwaay, Maander. He
naus hau to hook tha baal". Anyone have Jimmy's career stats?

>
>	  Most of Vengsarkar's centuries came in two bursts - 1978-79 and 1986-87.
>In 78-79, he got a chance to plunder runs from popgun attacks, which he took
>full advantage of.
>      Vengsarkar was in devastating form in 1986 and 1987 ( Gavaskar's last 4
>series + the one against WI right after the Reliance Cup). It just happened that
>India played much more at home than abroad during this time.I am sure that the 
>results would have been the same wherever he played during that period.
>This was the period when he was #1 in the Deliottes (sp?) ranking. And, BTW,
>in quite a few of the matches in this time, he was the only Indian batsman
>with a reasonable score. In fact in the 1987 series against WI , he was
>the only Indian batsman who made any runs at all (the great Azharuddin was
>showing us his acrobatic leaping ability in this series).
>
>-Vishwanath


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