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From: lowen@lorc.eskimo.com (Lamar Owen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Standard CP/M compression progs
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 08:48:51 -0500
Organization: LORC Enterprises

In <1992Dec8.085600.11836@cs.rug.nl> laverman@cs.rug.nl (Bert Laverman) writes:
>Hi all.
>  Has anybody ever ported all those standard CP/M compression utilities
>to LSDOS? I'ld like to be able to decompress some of the stuff I find
>on simtel, and I'm getting annoyed at having to reboot for it.

Check with the 8N1 BBS at (904)377-1200.  Sysop Guy Omer.  Scads of TRS-80
stuff.

>  Second question (related): has anyone ever found a nice editor for
>writing software under LSDOS 6.3? The standard ted/cmd is horrible, but
>it's the only one i've got at the moment. I do have the MC C compiler,

The Said editor that comes with MC is the best one going for the Mode 4.

>  Number three: Having a 128k Model 4 (recently extended with a 12Meg HD
>unit), I was thinking about claiming the extra banks, mapping them as the
>'normal' 64k, and emulating CP/M... I think most BDOS calls will map
>easily onto LS-DOS calls, and faking CP/M FCB's isn't too hard. Anybody
>else ever thought about it? It would save a lot of switching, and would
>finally allow Turbo-PASCAL to be run under LS-DOS (sort of ;-)).

The hooks were (sort of) built in.  Get a copy of The Source from Misosys.
If they have any more copies, that is.  I sold my copy, otherwise I would
help out.


-- 

Lamar Owen, Systems Consultant          | If there were a tax on syn,
GE Lighting Systems, Hendersonville, NC | we'd all be broke.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy,misc.forsale.computers
From: LOGIN@cbnewse.cb.att.com
Subject: Tandy 6K System For Sale
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:20:09 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Greetings,

I have finally decided to sell my T6K system. The console is a Tandy 6K
with 1 meg memory and two floppy drives. It has a 3 user card. It also has
a 35 meg primary and 70 meg secondary harddrive. There are 4 DT100 terminals
plus 2 or 3 DT1 terminals. XENIX 3.2.0 is loaded together with Scripsit,
File Pro 16, Lex, Multiplan, GL, A/R, A/P, and the games from the file
maintenance disk. All this together with all the cables, disks, documentation,
and other bits, parts, and pieces I have accumulated can be yours for
the low price of..............(drumroll please).........

$750.00 or best offer.

Call or email for more information or to make an offer. I am located
about 45 miles west of Chicago and with the holiday period coming up
can travel some to deliver this equipment.

Thanks
Steve Dawson
swd@ihlpl.ih.att.com
708-979-3210 work
708-897-2835 home
From: steves@cserver.plexus.com (Steve Spelbring)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: V8 Transition Poll
Summary: V8 Transition Poll
Keywords: V8
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:02:28 GMT
Organization: Plexus Corp. -- Neenah Wisconsin


I am interested in finding out just how many
sites are ACTUALLY USING Version 8 software
(Beta sites don't count, I want to hear from
*real* users.)

Which V8 tools do you expect to use (or are currently using)?

[ ] Idea Station
[ ] Analog Station
[ ] DSP Station
[ ] Board Station
[ ] Board Station 500
[ ] IC Station
[ ] Hybrid Station
[ ] __fill in the blank___ Station (I'm sure I missed one :-) )

[ ] Design Architect
[ ] QuickSim II
[ ] QuickSim II (with Hardware Modeler)
[ ] QuickFault
[ ] QuickGrade II
[ ] QuickPath
[ ] PLDSynthesis
[ ] AccuSim
[ ] Autotherm
[ ] Physical Cable
[ ] Layout
[ ] Package
[ ] Librarian
[ ] Fablink
[ ] _______________


Primary Platform you are running MGC V8 on:
[ ] HP/Apollo 700
[ ] HP/Apollo Domain
[ ] Sun

Other Platforms you are running MGC V8 on:
[ ] HP/Apollo 700
[ ] HP/Apollo Domain
[ ] Sun

How would you best describe your transition:
[ ] We have no plans of moving from V7 to V8
[ ] We have considered, but not implimented V8
[ ] We have V8 installed, but nobody knows how to use it
[ ] We have installed V8 and have run in to a few problems
[ ] We have successfully installed V8 and use it almost exclusively
[ ] We never had V7 so there are no transition issues
[ ] We are still waiting for V8.2
[ ] Other ___________________________________________

Have you used V7 Library Management System (LMS)?

If you answered Yes, has the lack of a V8 LMS been the main
reason you have not transistioned?

Other comments about V8:





-----------
We are in the process of transitioning to V8.
I would like to hear your reflections on your
transition and transition attempts. I am guiding
our transition to V8. With your comments hopefully
I will be able to make ours a smooth one, learning
from your experiences.

This site uses all of MGC's software, except the IC
stuff, somewhere on one of 35+ HP nodes.

Sometimes we are feeling very much alone in are attempts
to transition. Some of the problems that we have
found, and Mentor Support has not encountered before,
makes me wonder if anyone else is really transitioning.
It just seems to me that anyone else that has gone through
a transition would have found these problems by now.

Mentor's Support Center has been helpful in guiding us though
these problems.

E-mail responses are preferred.
Send you comments to steves@cserver.plexus.com
I will summarize and post the responses if there is enough interest
(anoninmity will be honored, if requested).

Thanks in advance for your responses!
--

                Steven S. Spelbring
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: mike@rtp-nc.mentorg.com (Mike Walsh)
Subject: MGC Freeware
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:11:27 GMT
Reply-To: mike@rtp-nc.mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation
Keywords: 
Followup-To: comp.sys.mentor



I have submitted the following freeware to be made available
on the MUG internet node (Cheers.ERC.MsState.Edu) - look for
them soon!

    iplot (v8.2_11.21) - General purpose shell level plotting
        utility.  This is the same shell script that was referenced
        and reprinted in the November issue of the SupportBulletin.
        Unfortunately the version of iplot that was reprinted is
        quite a bit out of date.

    da_batch (v8.2_1.20) - Design Architect batch edit utility.
        This shell script will allow you to globally batch edit
        MGC design objects (schematics, symbols, VHDL) without
        having to worry about the opening and closing of sheets.

    ai_uw.tar.Z (v8.1_7.x) - Board Station userware to produce
        pick and place data from a Board Station database.  This
        userware will produce a file of pick and place data for
        either a board or a panel and can deal with components
        that have mixed units (a mixture of metric and english
        as well as mils, inches, cm, mm, etc.) and produce an
        output with all information normalized per the users
        request.

    sb_uw.tar.Z (v8.1_10.x) - Board Station userware to interface
        and operate the ARTROUTERshape and SMARTROUTERshape family
        of auto-routers that MGC has OEM'ed from Cooper & Chyan
        Technology.  This userware provided menus and popup forms
        that make it easy for the Board Station user to drive
        either of the CCT routers without having to understand the
        CCT do file syntax.

These pieces of userware are FREE for the asking and as such are
NOT officially supported by Mentor Graphics Corportation.  If you
have questions or problems, e-mail me and I'll do what I can!

If you are unable to access the MUG internet node I can also any
of them available on Mentor Graphic's ISL node.  For those without
internet access send me e-mail and I will work something out with
you.

I welcome all comments and suggestions.

Mike

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From: joeb@arden.linet.org (Joe Beiter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: Versatec Plotters on HP 730s
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:57:21 GMT
Organization: The Courts of Chaos


Does anyone else have HP730s they are trying to use with Versatec Plotters?

Xerox (Versatec) released a device that sorta replaces the ICON board on
the 3XXXX Domain systems.  The 130 basically just interfaces into the SCSI
bus and you can setup the Plotter as a parallel device.

Problem is that it requires Blocked Raster and Versatec Plotter VPR software
from Mentor Graphics puts it into some other Rastor (mystery rastor format).

Does anyone know anything about VPR's format and if it can be converted to
Blocked Raster?  Apperently Mentor isn't planning on fixing their VPR
software on the 730s till 8.3 (yea right. 8.2 isn't even out).

- JoeB

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From: john@hpsad.sad.hp.com (John Ruf)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 18:14:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Viewlogic v Mentor
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor

  We conducted a large scale investigation of several possible CAD/CAE vendors
a few years ago. After having made the choice and subsequently put in much work
to fit the tools into our design and manufacturing needs, I would recommend
these important factors:
  1. We have NEVER found any "turnkey" solutions in these tools. Unless you are
     willing to totally adopt a vendor's design process you WILL have to adapt
     and customize the tools you buy to fit your design needs.
  2. It is more important to buy a system with reasonably good tools and
     excellent openness and customizability than to buy a system with the
     "best" point solution tool and sacrifice openness/adaptability. The
     concept of a framework into which you can plug various tools from many
     vendors or even in-house tools will give you long-term growth capability
     in your tool set.

  Having agonized over the choice and finally making a decision, we have since
confirmed that we made the right choice for our needs in buying Mentor. The
ability to respond quickly to changing needs within our design community makes
everyone happy. And the ability to encapsulate our own tools and processes
in the framework means we now have a basis for continuing to improve the design
methods.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:20784 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:15923 misc.invest:15063
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.invest
Subject: Re: History was made today...
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:10:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec17.171030.28844
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <parkyn.724609082@sfu.ca> parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn) writes:
>hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker) writes:
>>institutions, IBM is suddenly finding it has to (gasp) compete and, if
>>it learns its lesson at all, will have learned it too late.
>*** IBM is such a varied product company. I suspect it knows how to
>*** compete.

	That's news to a lot of analysts.

	Some divisions know how to compete. But, overall?  That's another
story. And the question is up in the air until/when/if Akers gets done with
the next round of reorganization.



-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
	"The definition of balls is for a non-singer to go karaoke singing
with the cast of a musical revue."
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:20831 gnu.misc.discuss:4057
From: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,gnu.misc.discuss
Subject: Re: Apple/Novell merger discussed
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:48:39 GMT
Reply-To: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Organization: Edinburgh University

Quoting mathew@mantis.co.uk (mathew) in article <suLVVB13w165w@mantis.co.uk>:
>
>That would be interesting.  We'd get to see whether the FSF would stick to
>their professed principles and boycott DOS machines.

I seem to remember that several people on this newgroup tried to
explain to you that GNU boycotts are in no way motivated by principle
but are purely pragmatic measures.  If you've that much skill in missing
the point, perhaps you should join the Douglas Adams School of Flying.
  __                                _____
\/ o\ Paul Crowley pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk \\ //
/\__/ "I'm the boy without a soul."  \X/ 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Travis.Heath@launchpad.unc.edu (Travis Heath)
Subject: MacWeek's e-mail address
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:01:05 GMT

Would some one post MacWeek's e-mail address and/or snail mail address?
I'd like a subscription.



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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:16:05 EST
From: <BJH@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: ** WARNING ** AVOID TIGER SOFTWARE!!!!

Alas, I must agree with this poster.  I won't go into the details of it unless
someone really wants to know them, but I finally had to call the President of
the company to get my shipment.  I wouldn't recommend buying anything from them

Brian
From: tim@math.earlham.edu (Tim McLarnan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Indispensible Software?
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:52:00 GMT

After >20 years of using computers (UNIX, VMS, DOS, NeXT, OS/360, you name it),  
I've recently bought a couple of Macs.  I'd like to know 3 things:

(1) What are the indispensible utilities you all use that I don't know about  
and can't live without?

(2) What are the indispensible games that I and my kids (5 and 2) don't know  
about and can't live without?  If possible, maybe you can suggest things not  
too warlike?  They spend enough time building Bonga-gonga shooters as is.

(3) Is there anything I can read to give me some idea of what's really going on  
inside these boxes without sitting down to 2 years worth of Inside Macintosh?   
What's out there that's intermediate between "Drag the little picture of the  
font into the System Folder," and 800 volumes of Inside Mac?

I don't have lots of money, but I don't mind spending something.  I do know  
about sumex-aim, wuarchive, and mac.archive.umich, and can get stuff from them.   
But I could use some guidance about which of the things in their 2MB of  
directory listings are worthwhile.

Sorry for the vague query; feel free to reply by e-mail unless you think the  
discussion of what software you love is helpful to the world at large, or  
unless you think 40 flame wars about the best games/DAs/... is a good way to  
start the Christmas season.
--
Tim McLarnan  tim@math.earlham.edu
Dept. of Mathematics, Earlham College, Richmond, IN 47374
From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Soft_PC. How compatible is it?
Date: 20 Dec 92 11:13:23 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <29600@castle.ed.ac.uk>, tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) writes:
> T.Stewart@massey.ac.nz (T.M. Stewart) writes:
> 
>>Soft-PC was mentioned a number of times.  Although it's likely to be slow,
>>just how compatible is it?  
> 
> 100%.

More like 99.4% (Which is as good as gold....)

I ran into an incompatibility problem. I have a BASIC program that is used
to program a commercial microprocessor-based moble transceiver. I had to
borrow my friends DOS laptop to program the thing, since SoftPC wouldn't
run it correctly. 

I tried SoftPC (Entry level) on a SE and PB 100, as well as SoftAT on a IIsi.
No go.

>>Do any users of Soft-PC have any comments?
> 
> OK, I'm not a user I work for Insignia. But the emulation is solid.

I agree. The emulation is solid. Slow, but solid.

-- 
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Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: eyee@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Sigma Ed)
Subject: Re: .hqx files
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:57:42 GMT

In article <N39TVB1w165w@student.business.uwo.ca>, j3cheng@student.business.uwo.ca (Jonathan Cheng) writes:
> cosc184z@menudo.uh.edu (David Alten) writes:
> 
> > >>Hi,
> > >>
> > >>Would some kind person out in networld please tell me what to do once I
> > >>download a .hqx file into my MAC harddrive?  How do I execute such a file,
> > >>or do I need to encode it using something else?  I am downloading this from
> > >>a UNIX based ftp site.  Any assistance you can give will be vastly apprecia
> > 
> > >All you have to do, is get a copy of BinHex version 4 or 5. And away you go.
> > >
> > >After BinHex has done it's stuff, it more than likely leaves you with a .sit
> > >
> > >Use StuffIt! to convert this file to Mac executables etc.
> > >
> > 
> > OK, you get partial credit.  You need a program that will decode BinHex 4
> > (not 5).  Compact Pro, StuffIt, and several other programs can do this. I
> > recommend using StuffIt Expander 3.0, freeware, that will decode BinHex 4.0
> > files and extract files stuffed with either AppleLink, Compact Pro, or StuffI
> > 
> > BinHex 5 is for the MacBinary format, usually denoted with a .bin extension.
> > Such files should automatically be converted if you have a decent communicati
> > program.  ZTerm!!!  ZTerm!!  ZTerm!!   :)
> 
>         I have a similar problem with hqx files.  The problem with all 
> these solutions is:  what if I've downloaded the stuffit program, but the 
> decoding program (stuffit) is itself encoded in hqx???  If I don't have a 
> decoder already, how do I decode this decoding program?
>         In other words, is there any shareware out there for decoding hqx 
> which is available in unencoded form?  Or is there any encoded decoding 
> programs that are self decoding/expanding?
> 
>         Sorry for the confusing message, but that's my state of mind 
> right now.
>         Thanks for your help.
> 
> Jon
> 
> j3cheng@student.business.uwo.ca (Jonathan Cheng)
> Western Business School  --  London, Ontario

At wuarchive.wustl.edu FTP server under mirrors/info-mac/util, there is a version
of binhex that is not binhexed. Would someone out there try it?


Merry Christmas and Happy New Year


Ed.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bauer@informatik.uni-ulm.de (Christian Bauer)
Subject: Re: Soft_PC.  How compatible is it?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: University of Ulm
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 09:37:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.030702.17285@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>,
ajiang@lonestar.utsa.edu (Alexander X. Jiang) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Dec14.002308.4927@massey.ac.nz> T.Stewart@massey.ac.nz (T.M. Stewart) writes:
> >Thanks to all those who responded to my PC emulation enquiry.
> >
> >Soft-PC was mentioned a number of times.  Although it's likely to be slow,
> >just how compatible is it?  Do any users of Soft-PC have any comments?

> It's so compatible that it will run windows...

But geoworks or some games easily starve.
From: Michael_J._Bell@fourd.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Soft PC ***any FREEware or SHAREware***
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:23:17 GMT
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS

Sorry, no not as far as I know. The problem is that the project(which I've sunk
a few teeth into) gets messy. Kernel 1 is relatively simple -- emulate a n x86
machine assembly. Also allow native 68000 code insertion.
You come up with the next level -- the bios --- if you were gonna run dos for
example, you could either port em over (ignoring the problem till kernel 3) or
better yet, rewrite most of it in native. Kernel 3 would of course fake lotsa
i/o mapping--> devices for graphics etc...yukkk....
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: haferman@icaen.uiowa.edu (Jeff Haferman)
Subject: Mac IIsi 5/80 --->  $946
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:44:53 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA


The above system is being advertised by our University Personal
Computing center (the price is for CPU only).  Also advertised
is a IIci 5/80 for $1419 and a IIci 5/230 for $1662.

I was told this is a special offer, good only "while supplies last",
and that the prices will go back up after the New Year.   Just
last week, the price dropped on the IIsi 5/80 to $1208, now another
drop.  What is going on?  Is Apple planning on phasing out the si
and ci?

I was planning on getting a Mac Classic (for horsepower, I can
use other facilities, so I really only need a personal computer
for Word Processing, Spreadsheets, etc.), but at these prices,
how can I go wrong getting an si?

Are other universities dropping their Mac prices?  Why just the
si and ci?


Jeff Haferman                            internet: haferman@icaen.uiowa.edu
Department of Mechanical Engineering     DoD 0186  BMWMOA 44469  AMA 460140
The University of Iowa
Iowa City, IA  52242                                 '76 R90S
From: John_Hammond@biomail.sjsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: pro-DAT
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:08:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Biological Sciences, San Jose State University

In article <1992Dec11.154635.21434@iex.uucp> danny@iex.UUCP (Danny Shaw)
writes:
 The question is....
>Would any DAT tapedrive work in this situation? Are there special
>drivers that would need to be installed? Any other useful info
>is greatly appreciated. $1799 is kind of steep. I would like to
>find one for less $ if possible + I already have Retrospect which
>was included with the pro-DAT from MacWarehouse.
>

I'd recommend the 2.0 gigabyte DAT drive from ClubMac (800.258.2622) at $1239
for an external drive. Maybe they'd take $50 off their price if you said you
already had Retrospect, which provides the necessary drivers.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: drd@siia.mv.com (David Dick)
Subject: Re: History was made today...
Organization: Software Innovations, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 19:05:28 GMT

In <10520030@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> bayes@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Scott Bayes) writes:

>> From the 1990 Almanac (I wish I had a later one)
>> Sales in Millions:
>> IBM  - 59,681
>> Apple - 4,071
>> 
>> As you can see by the sales, Apple has very little to do with the
>> success of IBM.
>> 

>Unless $2G of Apple sales cannibalized $20G of IBM sales (warning, this
>is only an example, repeat, an example) to accomplish the same amount of
>real work (read:  satisfy same amount of market needs)

>After all, one model for the disappearance of big expensive dinosaurs is
>that cheap little mammals caused them to starve by eating their lunches.

And another is that the dinosaurs got wiped out by the meteor
impact called "open systems", which had nothing to do with
cheap little, proprietary mammals.

David Dick
Software Innovations, Inc.
[the Software Moving Company; converting software to UNIX for over a decade]