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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: WWF Magazine (Papa Shango Interview)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:21:06 GMT

MARK ALERT!!!! MARK ALERT!!!!!

                                                  MARK ALERT!!!!!

This is a broadcast of the Emergency Mark Alert System. Please remain
calm. He will go away.
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From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Re: CoC Results
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:03:33 GMT

In article <10SEP199211330560@acad3.alaska.edu>, fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan) writes:
> [Re: the Steiners]  
> Actually, they represent what is wrong with most of today's wrestling. 
> Look at their matches more carefully.  Do they really work like they
> give a shit?  It certainly doesn't appear that way to me.  Scott does
> his finisher without any regard as to whether it even looks like he's
> trying.  Oh, I know, the Frankensteiner is a "sacred cow" and I should
> not put it in a bad light.

  For once in my life, I actually agree wholeheartedly with Sean!

  The Steiners are lazy.  They like to show off if it makes them look
  good, which means only when a camera is on.  Even then, they can't
  sell worth a damn.  Their matches have to be squashes for them to
  look awesome.  They do nothing to put their opponents over.  
  
  If you like suplexes, don't watch Rick, watch Hiro Hase.
  If you like the Frankensteiner, don't watch Scott, watch Doug Furnas.
 
  In both cases, the Steiners could learn a *hell* of lot.

                                                        Herb...
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
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Subject: Steamboat
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Guys, I don't want to hear any more complaining about limited wrestling
knowledge by WWF wrestlers getting a mega-push (UW, UT, Hogan, etc). Does
Rick Steamboat know any other move besides an arm bar and headlock? Jesus
this guy is boring. How does he generate so much heat?

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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: WWF minor leagues
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 11:22:11 EDT

In article <2390.137.uupcb@ssr.com>
dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) writes:
 
>The WWF and The USWA have formed a working agreement.  Titan will supply
>lower grade guys for USWA cards and the USWA will kind of work as a
>minor league for Titan, among other things.
 
This is similar to the agreement Titan has with the IWCCW, right?
Is Titan continuing to work with the IWCCW or has that arrangement
come to an end?
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
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From: shahryar@crc.ricoh.com (Shahryar G. Hashemi)
Subject: Starcade Highlights...
Organization: RICOH California Research Center
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 04:03:35 GMT

Dear all,

I would like to now ask everyone about what matches are most
memorable from the Starcade PPV shows NWA/WCW has had over the
years.  Basically like the most memorable matches ever.  I guess
my all time favorite was the "I Quit" match between Magnum T.A. and
Tully Blanchard [don't remember the year it happened].

Shahryar

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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: [WCW] H. Havoc '92
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:45:12 GMT



What are the rules for each of these matches?

>Texas Death Match
>Coal Miner's Glove Match
>Russian Chain Match
>I Quit
>Barbed Wire
>Prince of Darkness

Tom
From: Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Two Questions...
Date: 15 Sep 92 06:16:52 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> maurice writes:
> 
> When McMahon and Co. came up with the idea for the
> Honkytonk Man, their first choice was not Wayne Ferris but rather
> Brutus Beefcake.  Beefcake (can't remember his real name) got sick
> or injured or something and so Wayne Ferris was brought in to play
> the part.


I believe that you are wrong about this one...

Wayne was playing Honky Tonk Wayne in Stampede Wrestling (Stu Hart's promotion
out of Calgary) long before he made it to the Whiff.  From what I understand
from the local wrestling circuit, Wayne was, shall we say, "drafted" by Vinnie
to play the same role in the Whiff.

Another famous "drafting" was that of John Tenta (The Canadian Earthquake, now
just the Earthquake).  John returned from Japan after he quit Sumo Wrestling
and joined up with the local promotion (All Star Wrestling).  Vince, through
someone, heard about John and he was approached by a Whiff official.  The rest
is history...

BTW, of all the setups for angles in Vinnie-Land, I must say that John's was
one of the best...when Dino Bravo asked for "Anyone from the crowd" to sit on
his back while he did pushups.  Course, marks AND plants all pointed at the
HUGE Tenta and down he came...


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From: gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gary James Patalsky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Flair's salary?
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:33:47 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


If anyone knows how much Ric Flair makes, could you please post it or
e-mail it to me.
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: An apology
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 23:14:45 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY


No, this is not to Brian Wawczak, so you don't have to skip it. It's about
me being late on posts. My UUCP link just got Tuesday's posts. That means
I still don't know if Flair beat Savage. 
 
For the record, it is 11:19pm Friday Night 9/4/92 here in Oceanside, NY.

--Don

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From: cadesjar@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: Flair, Hogan, WWF, NWA, e
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:46:25 GMT

In article <2393.137.uupcb@ssr.com> dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:
>  >The question is, will Vince give Flair the title back within
>  >the next year so that Hogan can win it in the long overdue "Battle of the
>  >Legends". 
>
>The answer is Yes.  But I am not sure if Hogan will ever come back.
>From what I have heard, he has no plans on coming back at the present
>time.  he definitely will not work a full schedule if he does.

Let's hope the rumours of Hogan's Japanese contract are true. 

I was watching an old Hogan match at Herb's place the other day, and
yes folks, the Hulkster *wrestled* (granted, this was in 81 or 82 just
before his WWF stint). I saw suplexes, leg sweeps, mat wrestling, and a
step-over armbar takedown that Herb swears Hogan taught to Steamboat.
(Hogan teaching *anyone* how to wrestle? Unheard of!)

In that match alone, Hogan showed more moves than I saw in his whole
WWF career, which lends more proof to the fact that wrestlers remember
fewer moves when they enter the Whiff. I say to let Hogan stay in Japan
where he's able to get away with wrestling (except of course his match
with Yatsu, where he was laughed out of the arena for attempting the
mat wrestling he has shown to be once capable of).

>BW>Also, keep in mind that if Hogan ever does have his true retirement match,
>  >he will probably want to beat the only man he's ever been pinned by: UW.
>
>In the WWF alone, he was also pinned by Andre, albeit unfairly.

And Undertaker. Also in Japan, he was beat by Inoki (aka No-Nookie)
for some International belt, among others.

>BW>Luger over Flair for the WWF title

I don't see this. It'll be Warrior to take Flair's title. Who else but
the Giant(Hogan)-Killer has the "skill" to take away his belt. Don't
say Savage, cause Warrior beat him into the ground, too.

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From: ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3)
Subject: Shane Douglas in the WCW
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Posted-Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 18: 30:06 CDT
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:30:06 GMT
Received-Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 18: 30:11 CDT


What was that Jim Ross was saying about Shane Douglas coming
to WCW?  I was dosing off when I heard it, but I know he wasn't
hyping his hotline or anything--he said Shane WOULD be there
(not sure if that was "next week" or "at H Havoc".

		--Otto "Van Hacker" Heuer

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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: WWF Magazine (Papa Shango Interview)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:10:42 GMT

ccjames@cybaswan.UUCP (j hussell) writes:

>The WWF hasn't been the same since Papa Shango arrived on the scene.  Shango,
>a voodoo practitioner, has used his sorcery and black magic to haunt numerous
>people, including the Ultimate Warrior.  Shango says he has cursed the Warrior.

Does anyone else remember the bit from GLOW a few years back in which the
black-magic woman (forget her name) tried to hypnotize Sally "The Farmer's
Daughter."  Sally escaped by wearing some sort of magic charm, maybe
a rabbit's foot.  Maybe Sally should make these charms for all the good
guys in the WWF.

>Although the Warrior denies he is under Shango's spell, he has had some strange
>things happen to him over the last several months.

What if the spell is forcing him to deny he's under the spell?  Scary huh?

>For example, after the
>Warrior defeated Nasty Boy Knobbs an national T.V., the former WWF champion
>suffered from severe stomach cramps and nausea.

I feel that way after I eat at Taco Bell.

>A week later, a mysterious black goo dripped down the Warrior's face during a
>live interview with Mean Gene Okerland.  The Warrior was overwhelmed and at a
>loss for words.

He's always at a loss for words during his interviews, but he continues to
speak random phonemes.

>PS: The Warrior has experienced but a small sum of my limitless
>    powers.  Soon he will feel the wrath of all my black magic.  Soon he will
>    feel the power of my gods such as Ybo.  Ybo has blessed Papa Shango with 
>    powers that are far greater than those of any god, living, dead or undead.

Power greater than any god, including Ybo?  Jeez, that Ybo is a stud!


>WWF: Would you care to share this so-called knowledge with our readers ?

I hope so!  Then maybe I can bring about the Warrior's demise!

>PS: Papa Shango detects that WWF Magazine, just as the Ultimate Warrior, 
>    doesn't believe in the powerful forces of voodoo.

The Magazine doesn't believe in a whole lot.  It isn't sentient.

>WWF: Now, your hex isn't exclusive to the Warrior, is it ?  I mean after all,
>     we have seen you ... well, we have seen other wrestlers - mainly young-
>     sters just trying to establish themselves - catch on fire, fall uncons-
>     cious and awaken with evil goo dripping down their faces when they step
>     into the ring to go up against you.

He's refering to Kerry on a bad binge, isn't he?

>PS: It is all part of Papa Shang's curse upon the Ultimate Warrior.  He suffers
>    , so his followers will suffer.  He is cursed, so his followers - warriors,
>    I believe he calls them - are cursed as well.  They, like the Warrior, will
>    live in fear.

I live in fear of Papa Shango.  Is this the future of the WWF?  Thankfully
WCW still exists.

Tom
From: spr@prism.gatech.EDU (Stefan Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: How many UWs?
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:17:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <visser.716242782@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
|In <1992Sep10.213128.27525@news.iastate.edu> jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson) writes:
|
|+>	Like it says, including whoever is acting now, how many people have
|+>been the Ultimate Warrior since he became that persona?
|+>	My brother says two, and i say three.
|+>	So what's the truth?
|
|	There were four.
|
|	The original Warrior, Jim Hellwig 
|		(Died, steriods )
|	Buck Zumhoff
|		(Jailed)
|	J.T. Southern
|		(fired in a money dispute last year at Summerslam)
|	Scott Hall
|		(hired this past year)  
|
|	And remember, Brutus Beefcake is Hulk Hogan's brother, Rick and 
|	Ole anderson are cousins and the andersons are all brothers.


Cut out this crap. This is why these stupid UW rumors continue and people keep
asking the same question all the time.

For the record, all of the above "facts" are false. There has only been one
Ultimate Warrior.


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From: ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Subject: Vince on Late Night
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date:  4 Sep 92 23:54:46 GMT

Does anybody remember when Vince McMahon was a guest commentator on
Late Night with David Letterman around 1984 or 1985? I just remebered this,
and I thought it would be interesting to bring up on the net. This wasn't
the time he was a guest, but he was doing some type of interview with
Larry "Bud" Mellman on the New Year's Eve show. My memory is sketchy on
this one, but if anyone can clarify my story, please do.

The one comment that I do remember is Dave saying something to the effect of,
"Where the hell did we get this guy?"-of course, speaking about McMahon.

--
ventura@camelot.bradley.edu  

"I'm a 60 minute man, and I'm ALL night long! WOOOOOO!!!"
        - "The Real World's Heavyweight Champion"(tm)  Ric Flair
From: awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh)
Subject: Re: Two Questions...
Reply-To: awalsh@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:25:48 GMT

In article <mjenkins.716322156@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>Greetings,
>
>Two questions here that have been bothering me for a long time. These
>have probably been discussed at length sometime in the past, so my
>apologies in advance for boring you. :)
>
>1) When Sgt. Slaughter and Ultimate Warrior held the WWF title, the
>color of the strap kept changing, from black, to white, to blue, and
>perhaps a couple of others. Why? When Hogan held the title, the color
>of the strap never changed. Ditto with Flair and Savage. It was always
>black.

I don't think there's any real answer to this for Slaughter, but they 
needed two different belts so Jim and Steve could defend the belt in 
different cards on the same night. :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)


>
>
>2) When the WWF signs a wrestler, what comes first, the image, or the
>person? Does the WWF sign Scott Hall and then say, well, what image
>should we make for you? Or do they say, hey, let's create a greasy
>latino character, now who should we sign to play him? And how much
>veto power does a wrestler have over what character he will play?
>

Well, it all depends on what house mercury is in and who is the most
popular wrestler at the time. In the old days, they had to come up 
with sacrificial hacks for Hogan to humiliate, and in order to make them
look good, they had to find OTHER hacks to play good guys. So then it was
image, then person. Once Bulk's popularity waned, they looked for decent
wrestlers in smaller federations and snatched them up before WCW got a 
chance at them. They would then be used, given a belt to hold for a short
time, merchandized to death, then forced to job once their pop waned
and they did not fill their WWF Superstars Ice Cream Bar (tm) quota.
Hence the wasted talents of Sid Juicetice, Kerry Von Erich, UT, Owen
Hart, etc.

Remember, everybody's got a price for Million Dollar McMoney.

Don't forget to take your ICOPRO(tm).

>Much thanks for any responses.
>
>Michael
>"I am oooozzzzing machismo...the rest of you just ooozzzzing."
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From: kjpires@nomad.holonet.net (Kurt J. Pires)
Subject: Re: Heenan/Perfect/Flair split
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:44:53 GMT

jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo) writes:
>Well I noticed Heenan was never physically involved in his matches anyway. 
>BTW, why is Heenan no longer a manager anymore?  

Heenan is not working as a manager, because he saves the prime time show
on the usa network.  Sources say Heenan lives in the so called Titan Tower
area so he can do prime time, and wrestling spotlight. 

Lance Luther
From: mark.stevens@spacebbs.com (Mark Stevens) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Sportatorium (9-5-92)
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:25:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: mark.stevens@spacebbs.com (Mark Stevens) 

To: ljr3721@usl.edu (Joey Richard)


JR>I was surprised to hear that WCW was at the Sportatorium.  But why?  How
JR>many people does this arena seat?  What was the attendance?  Isn't there
JR>a larger arena in the Dallas area that they could have used?

It's a cost saving move by Watt's.  The rent on the Reunion Arena
(where they used to hold cards) cost over $20,000 a night.  Until the
crowds get bigger it's much cheaper to rent the Sportatorium.
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Subject: Re: Randy Savage errata
From: pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Dan Fielding)
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:00:44 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <mjenkins.715996422@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
> In <1992Sep8.183911.12667@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Dan Fielding) writes:
>>Two things:
>>1.  The guy with the machismo gimmick is Scott Hall, aka Diamond Studd, aka
>>Razor Ramon.  Get it right next time, eh?
> Uhhh...he was doing a Razor Ramon impression, Dan, or did you get that
> and this comment is ironic? Its a direct parody of what Rrrazzorrr
> said to Gene this past weekend.

Skipped the syndies this weekend, in celebrating Labour Day.  I had... other
things to attend to.  ;-)  And if you don't get it, that ain't my problem.

>>No, no.  Best WWF shot of the summer was one that didn't happen:  Randy
>>Savage through the head, with a .38 Special.
> Sorry, Dan, that's not funny. According to a poster here (who,
> admittedly, sounded like a mark) someone tried to shoot Jake Roberts
> at the Sportatorium recently.

Yeah, I read that post... it DID sound like a mark... okay, okay, I apologise
for the shooting thing.  But, forgive the pun, Savage's career needs a serious
shot in the arm, if he's being relegated to feud with Scott Hall, a title
contender only when one stretches the imagination.

> Neither suicide or murder is amusing. Randy's having some real
> problems in his real life. Give the man a break.

Hold it.  I'm not trashing Randy's personal life.  What he does when he leaves
the wrestling arenas is his business.  I'm just trashing him as a wrestler. 
I've never been able to see why he's so damn appealing to marks everywhere.

>>Nope, but why don't you go find a shovel and start digging it yourself?
> I'm shakkkkinggggg......

Good.

>>Dan Fielding, Stud-at-large.  And Sexiest Man Alive...
> My wife would disagree! :)

No moral comment.  :)

> Mike

Dan Fielding, Still Studly After All These Years.
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WBF's new life
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 04:01:45 EST
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Keywords: WBF ain't dead
Summary: it's been reincarnated
Expires: never
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Some of you undersexed lads have been wondering what will happen to Cameo
now that the WBF is history. :-) Well, the fact that she's married
notwithstanding, she should be around a little while. A manager at Gold's
here in Stamford told me that although the bodybuilding segment is toast,
they plan to continue as a health/fitness organization. The ICOPRO will
continue to be marketed. Chances are they'll keep Body Stars around, but
in a very reduced form. I guess Lex still has a job.

I can see why the WBF died. I finally saw pix of the second contest.
Strydom aside, those guys looked disgraceful. The only Arnold Mike Quinn 
looked like is Tom Arnold.

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