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From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: FWWM in mag
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:40:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I'm not sure if this has been posted -- I'm a week behind on news --
but the cover story on this month's "American Cinematographer"
magazine is on FWWM. It should theoretically have hit the newsstands
on Monday. So, rush out in a buying frenzy.

Sally


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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...)
Subject: Re: Series videos and Twin Peaks fan clubs...
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 08:52:17 GMT

In article <28AUG199217364233@jane.uh.edu>, elee9xl@jane.uh.edu (92H01722) writes...

}} Or if you don't get ad's

}} Series 1: 1 90 minute pilot and 7 45 minute episodes
}} Series 2: 1 90 minute opener and 21 45 minute episodes

}} All in all 24 Hr's of Peaks (including the pilot) which fits comfortably
}} on 4 long play E-240 cassettes.

} ^^ Where on earth can you find these? (I dont get the ad's either)  

} I NEED them!

I think you're confused. First, the person is posting from the UK, which
means they're in PAL format, which you'd need to get converted to be
able to watch. Second, these aren't commercial tapes he "found" that he's
talking about. He's talking about tapes he made of the broadcast on BBC2
(or copies of them). It would be as if you said "All in all 24 hours of
Peaks (including the pilot) which fits comfortably on 4 SLP T-120 cassettes."

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Little Man From Another PLACE
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:02:35 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <6123@npri6.npri.com> eric@npri6.npri.com (Eric Williams) writes:
>In article <15222@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>> They misspelled "Garmonbozia", called Michael Anderson's character the
>> "Man From Another Planet" (maybe they were thinking of "Eraserhead"?),

>Actually, I read the review before going and checked the end credits...
>I could swear that in the film LMFAP is indeed from a Planet, not a Place...
>Could have been a typo by the titlers...  Anyone wanna double check?

I still had enough presence of mind following the finale to check when I
saw it the first time.  It said "Place".  And I think there was no "Little"
in his name, it was just "Man From Another Place".
From: ww10aac@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: FWWM observations
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:38:44 GMT

Well hot damn, it seems very few people like this movie.  I saw it with my
roommate and we both loved it!!  Enough to see it a second time today.

A few things... spoilers abound of course

The Indian Whooping Noise.  The MFAP says that he is the Arm and sounds
like the Indian whooping noise.  We hear this at least three other times.
Once when the OAM approaches the Palmers in their car (as already mentioned),
another time at the Fat Trout Trailer Park when we see a shot of that
telephone pole, and once more in Leland's flashback when we see a shot of
the TV just before it is smashed.

Someone asked how Teresa knew Leland.   Well she asked Jacques what Laura's
father looks like (Jacques mentions this in the pink room - I don't know
what else to call this place, the script calls it Partyland).

I don't think that was Annie as the angel at the end or they would've gotten
Heather Graham to play it.  A different actresses protrays each of the two
angels.

I thought Moira Kelly did a good job as Donna.  She played her more sweeter
than Lara Flynn Boyle who I never really did like.

What is that music that plays when Laura and James get together?  We hear it
twice, once in the custodian's office and later at their last meeting.
Really nostalgic.  Have I heard it before on the show or Industrial
Symphony #1?

I saw the movie in THX and the music sounded great.  The Pink Room was
absolutely perfect for that scene.

For those of you watching for continuity, the one phone call that rang once
that was determined to have been placed from Ben's office in the series
turns out (in the movie) to come from James.  I don't think he called from
Ben's office.

Waldo pecking at Laura and the "Bite the bullet, baby" were deleted, I wonder
why.

That Jeffries scene sure was trimmed from the shooting script.  I wonder if
this and other scenes will be restored in a director's cut?  If they did,
would they even bother releasing it in the US?

ed


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From: kirsten@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kirsten Starcher)
Subject: Re: FWWM Spoilers from behind the mask
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:26:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.005157.25659@athena.mit.edu> jhbrown@athena.mit.edu (Jeremy H Brown) writes:
>During the Phillip Jeffries scene, when watching the People from Another
>Place (alien seems like such a lame tag for them), the young Tremont has
>a mask which has been commented on extensively, and appears in other scenes.
>
>Watch closely, though.  He holds the mask up, turns it to cover his
>face, then turns it away again.  We get only a split-second view of his
>face when he turns the mask away, but this time it is heavily bearded!
>I think it was Mike, but I would love independent verification!  Are
>Mike and the young Tremont the same?

I thought it was that monkey that they've shown a couple of times... anyone
else see it that way?

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From: C491153@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU (John Schultz)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Little Things
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:49:53 GMT

Spoilers ahead...



















Jon Blow <blojo@xcf.berkeley.edu> writes:

>I find it interesting that the movie answered a lot of the "little things"
>about the series that only die-hard fans ever really wondered about anyway,
>like:
>
>  * Why Donna was so entranced with wearing Laura's sunglasses.
>  * Why Donna burst into tears when sitting at a certain booth in the
>    Roadhouse.

Umm, would you mind sharing them with me?  ;>  I don't remember seeing
Donna wearing Laura's sunglasses in FWWM, just her jacket tied around her
waist.  As for crying in the booth, wasn't she crying in the series right
after Leland had killed Maddie (for whatever reason), not because of
Laura crying?

>  * I was totally hit hard by the parallelism between the party in the
>    red-colored room in Canada (where the music was loud and thus subtitles
>    were used) and the events in the Red Room with which we are so
>    familiar.

Me too, I had some trouble hearing due to the crappy 'sound system' at
the theater I saw it at, so I thought for the first few lines of dialogue
that the speech was the backwards Lodge speech.  Luckily, the audio
became a bit clearer so I could tell that they were not talking
backwards.

>    Leland's "levitation trick" in the movie also seemed like some sort
>    of formal ceremonial bow or something.  The other people in the room
>    were looking at him in a proud/impressed manner; I get the feeling
>    that he was taking a bow in connection with the impressive situation
>    he had managed to create.

I don't know about this, I got the impression that BOB was the one
levitating Leland, such as to say 'Look what power I have over him.'

John Schultz (caffeine abuser)   !  ABC killed Laura Palmer
c491153@mizzou1.bitnet           !  Macintosh-free and proud of it!
c491153@mizzou1.missouri.edu     !  Subscriber to the hacker ethic
From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: How do they pronounce "FWWM" ?
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:44:55 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Aug28.162718.2323@exu.ericsson.se>, exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague) writes:
> >	I have noticed that news stories about "Fire Walk With Me" have
> >been pronouncing it like:
> >
> >	"Firewalk with me"
> >
> >rather than
> >
> >	"Fire, walk with me".
> 
> I've heard this several time on local movie reviews.  Maybe the press kit
> for FWWM has something to do with it--anybody have one?

I've always wondered if it was SIGNIFICANT that there is never a comma
in that phrase when it appears in any "official" material (like in the
script, or in the name of the movie).  Of course, there's no hyphen in
it, either.  I'm paranoid enough to suspect that Lynch is being deliberately
ambiguous about SOMETHING, though I don't know what.
-- 

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OR cdt@vos.stratus.com        write today for my special Investors' Packet...
From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: The Native American meaning of corn
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 16:37:20 EDT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

I saw a book today about Native Amercian symbolism. While it did not have 
anything on owls, it did have a small section on corn. I can't remember 
everything it said, but what sticks in my mind is that corn is a symbol 
for earth, life, and more specifically, Mother Earth. This makes me think 
that the inhabitants of the Black Lodge (aliens?) are consuming not only 
the souls of humans, but the very essence of the planet itself! Perhaps 
the battle between the two Lodges concerns not just a small area of one 
state, but control over the entire planet. You could also connect this to 
the ecological problems of we face today--it's all BOB's fault!
From: C491153@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU (John Schultz)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: missing item in FWWM
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:53:17 GMT

spoilers ahead...


















Chuck Kincaid <statman@stat.ufl.edu> writes:
>    The one thing that it was missing that no one, yet, has
>commented about is the owls!  All through the scene with LP and Bobby in
>the forest with the flashlight panning through the trees I expected to
>see owls.  But not a one!  Anywhere!  This is just a minor thing (is it
>only maybe.) but I missed them.

Yes!  I thought for sure that we would see at least one owl in that
scene, especiallt with all the gratuitous shots of the flashlight
shining around the trees.

John Schultz (caffeine abuser)   !  ABC killed Laura Palmer
c491153@mizzou1.bitnet           !  Macintosh-free and proud of it!
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From: jjc4@po.CWRU.Edu (James J. Campanella)
Subject: Questions (spoilers)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 00:08:31 GMT


Okay,

My major question is (and its a little complicated. . . ):

Okay, I got the distinct impression that the inhabitants of the Black 

Lodge "eat" pain and suffering (Garbonsiviaum, not even close, sorry).

Further, I got the impression that Bob is almost a butcher for the group.

That he must kill whoever wears that dreaded green ring. Near the end

of the movie, the dwarf and one-armed man asked for their share of the pain and 
suffering. Okay, so question 1.) Are they good or evil if they feed off 

other people's pain and suffering? After all,

they are not objecting to Bob's behavior.

2.) Do they *need* to cosume the pain and suffering

or do they do it for some other reason?

3.) When the one-armed man saw the light and became

"good", he must have stopped consuming pain. Does that

mean that it wasn't necessary for the survival of the

"demons"?

Any comments?
-- 
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From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: FWWM reviews
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:33:21 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Aug31.140254.3274@unixland.natick.ma.us> bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.204542.23555@mumbo.apple.com> mark@cambridge.apple.com (Mark Preece) writes:

>>Anybody heard anything *really* positive?

>The movie has opened to mixed reviews at best, and been roundly panned
>at worst.

At worst, it's been roundly panned for the wrong reasons.  The review in
the Washington Post was hilariously inaccurate.

They misspelled "Garmonbozia", called Michael Anderson's character the
"Man From Another Planet" (maybe they were thinking of "Eraserhead"?),
called the red-draped Partyland bar "The Power and the Glory", which
was in fact the name of the band playing there, and said that Jacques
owned the place.  There were also, if I remember, denigrating commentss
about a lot of the established TP imagery (e.g. the white horse), saying
that it made no sense.  He even found some weird fundamentalist Christian
subtext in it... which is stretching it a BIT much.

Funny thing was, the reviewer also said some positive things, calling it
"perversely moving" (and "profoundly self-indulgent" in the same sentence).
He bashed it a lot but still couldn't seem to flat-out pan it.
From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Angels (was: Re: more on Gormonbozia (spoilers))
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:54:30 GMT
Reply-To: ingria@BBN.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
In-reply-to: kwh@CS.CMU.EDU's message of Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:15:15 GMT

In article <KWH.92Sep1121515@GLOBE.EDRC.CMU.EDU> kwh@CS.CMU.EDU (Kevin Hartmann) writes:

   I remember an angel helping someone in FWWM also.  But I can't remember the
   situation.  Does anyone else?

An angel appears to Ronette and apparently cuts her bonds.  And
Catherine claimed that an angel appeared to her after the mill fire
(in the series).

-30-
Bob
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From: sjohnson@faulen.asd.sgi.com (Scott Johnson)
Subject: Re: FWWM (Spoilers)
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:19:25 GMT

In <Bts16u.D63@acsu.buffalo.edu> v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons) writes:

>2) How many people want to lay money that Jurgen Prochnow is
>Mr. Lanterman?

remind me again who jurgen prochnow is?  name sounds too familiar,
but i can't connect.

>5) Why was so much camera time spent on the picture angel's wings
>and the garden behind them? did I miss something?

laura kept looking at this picture, hoping that her angel didn't
leave her, which it did right before she dies.  important in this
was donna: "in space, do you think that after a while you start
to fall faster or slow down?", laura: "you start to fall faster
and faster until you explode into flames, and there are no
angels to help you," or something like that.  note also that
ronette had an angel there to save her.  why did laura's leave
her?  don't know for sure.

>8) Sucking up the Creamed Corn was really a backwards play of
>someone spitting it out. Gross.

he was eating his garmonbozia.  also, i didn't know what to
make of laura's statement at the beginning "like a turkey
running into the corn."  i remember a lynch discussion a while
back of the then-upcoming movie, ending with "... and it all has
something to do with corn."  ???  anyone got this one figured out?

>"Welcome to Canada"

indeed.

sj		"Your prejudice won't keep you warm tonight" - m
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: The Pink Room (musical (slight) spoiler)
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:22:52 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Alright... Music Trivia time.

Where did you all hear the tune _The Pink Room_ before?














Yes that's right! Bobby put it on the jukebox in the very first episode.
Remember... "I'll see you in my dreams, Norma Jennings!"

"Not if I see you first!"

Rent the Euroflick if you don'believe me ;-)

Mike (under the sycamore trees....)

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I have a fondness for big hair, and the industrial strength heavy-duty 
environment-mangling aerosol hair spray that creates it. 

								Laura LeMay
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From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: questions
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:55:26 GMT


Who did Jurgen Prochnow play in the film? This actor was in Dune as
the Duke, and Das Boot.
How old is Sheryl Lee?
When will the second series be out on tapes?
What books are available besides the ACCESS guide, Laura and Cooper's
diaries and...?
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: FWWM Credits (no real spoiler)
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:21:16 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

By now we all know about how many characters were left on the cutting-
room floor.  But there are a couple that I wonder about -- because I'm
not sure if they were there or not.

My credit listing mentions that Juergen Prochnow plays "Second Woodsman",
but I think he was only credited as "Woodsman".  Was there another
Woodsman in the film?

Also, who (if anyone) did Calvin Lockhart play?  The old credit listing
names his character as "?".

And last but not least... did our old buddy Del Mibbler make the final
cut?  Was that him crossing the street with the walker when the Palmers
stopped behind the truck?
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From: del@fnx.uucp (Dag Erik Lindberg)
Subject: Re: FWWM Minor Comments and Minor Spoilers
Organization: I/Ovations
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:48:57 GMT

In <6239@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> benjy@benjy.cc.vt.edu (Ben E. Cline) writes:

>It's odd that I found parts of the TV show scarier than movie.  For example,
>the railroad car scene in the movie was intense, but not scary.  The railroad
>car scene in the TV show was really chilly.  I'm not sure why exactly.

That's because the movie as we saw it was heavily edited due to audience
reactions at trial screenings.  Personally, I'd really like to see the
uncut version.

-- 
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                          Who is John Galt?
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Black Lodge Tarot.
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:29:00 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


I was jjst thinking... not only did Aleister Crowley write "moonchild", 
he also designed a set of Tarot cards. Does anyone out there have this set?
How is it different from, say, the Rider tarot cards? Maybe there's a himt in 
the cards...
Mike (you crazy fucking Canadian!)
From: tb0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Keenan Bowman)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Scenes cut from the script
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:30:47 GMT
Organization: Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Since I've never read the original shooting script for FWWM, and missed any
articles dealing with it, could someone please fill me in on the details of
some of the scenes that were cut from the 2 hour theatrical version?

particularly...

The extended Jefferies (D. Bowie) scene
The murder of L. Palmer
Jack Nance's scenes
Jurgen Prochnow's scene (I can't believe he got billing with only 3-4 seconds
           of screen time)
Thanks in advance
please e-mail or post
todd

BTW,  I thought the movie was excellent.
From: jgp@zodmate.Rational.COM (Jim Pellmann)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: David Lynch on the Tonight Show
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:24:03 GMT

tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver) writes:

>The title pretty much says it...Lynch will be on the Tonight Show next 
>week (week of August 24-28) to presumably talk about FWWM. Don't know 
>the exact day he will appear.

TV Guide says it will be Wednesday (the 26th).

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From: tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Tom Buzzeo)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Saw an Ad..
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 21:11:04 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

In the local paper today for FWWM...
It looks like the old heart locket with a picture of Laura in it.. The 
other half or the part where the locket is broken is in flame and below 
it one can see the infamous zig-zagged carpet... the text however... is 
fairly plain.

 Dis claimer - not mine. :o) tbuzzeo@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: furesz_t@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Miniseries
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:58:16 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

Although I enjoyed the movie and want to see another made I think TP should
return to the small screen.  I think the best way would be to have a
yearly miniseries (something the length of the first season).  That way
each spring they could air a new 7-9 hours (one hour a week) works
well.  I like the old each episode is a day in TP.  That got lost in
FWWM.  Lynch could stay heavily involved (more so than doing a full
22 episodes a year) and we would not have to wait a year or 2 till
we get another movie.  What do people think?

Todd
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From: georgen@pooky.cs.mun.ca (George Noel)
Subject: Re: FWWM MORE SPOILERS etc
Summary: Indian Noise
Keywords: Where did we hear it before?
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 07:27:04 GMT

>
>  The indian-mouth noise made by the Little Man we hear when Mike is
>  driving toward Leland as well as during the focuses on the electrical
>  pole and during one additional time, but I don't remember when.

We also hear the indian noise from Senor Droolcup in the last episode of
the second season when the LMFAP says "One and the same".
>
>
>  "I'm not your Laura.  Your laura has disappeared..."

 Your Laura has disappeared? In the opening pilot episode james is explaining
 to Donna how Laura didn't seem like herself, then she was suddenly Laura
 again. There was also a scene in the movie where Laura for a second turns
 into an "evil" Laura.. could that have been her Doppleganger?
>
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