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From: tom_repasky@mentorg.com
Subject: Re: Saga of the Family of Light I - Pleiadians13
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:47:08 GMT
Organization: Information Services

In article <1992Aug27.161700.6099@auto-trol.com> davgot@auto-trol.com (David
Gottner) writes:
>In article <64745@cup.portal.com> Don_-_Showen@cup.portal.com writes:
>>RA says
>>
>>...So this means that our DNA is constructed from
>>three sources,  our own past, and our biological parents. The other factor
>>involved in this is that past, unresolved emotions survive death and come
>>in with us to be embedded in our DNA.  So it is possible that some of our
>>biggest emotional problems could have originated in past lives..
>
>Some ET's that I work with told me this also, but I have a hard time
>with this one.
>
>According to what we know about genetics, all of your DNA comes
>from ones parents.  There is no provision for past life memories
>to be recorded in the DNA.
>
>So, how are past memories imprinted on the DNA?
>-- 
>Amrit Prem			|
>davgot@auto-trol.com		| This area is intentionally left blank
>{...}ncar!ico!auto-trol!younam 	|
>
DNA is more of an address to memory than memory itself.  The frequency/harmonic
wave produced by DNA generalizes, i.e. humans have human memories archetypes
emotions.  Individual memories are a feature of the personality and the local
wave produced by the DNA.  Personal perceptions (memories) are like flowers in
a field.  No one of them is important, however, each of them contributes.


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From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Too secret for the US President's eyes?
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:34:26 GMT
Followup-To: alt.alien.visitors
Distribution: alt
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	kuch@reed.edu (Jerry Kuch) writes:
	Errr... what are you talking about?  What is this Roswell
	Incident?  

... Try to find a book called "UFO Crash at Roswell", by Kevin Randle
and Donald Schmitt (Avon, 1991).  It gives a pretty good summary of
the events known as "The Roswell Incident" (also, this is the title of
the less-useful Berlitz and Moore book on the subject, published in
1980.)

	What did it have to do with Kennedy, and what is the original
	source for its mentioning?  This isn't some bizarre-o paranoid
	UFO wank again is it?

The Kennedy/UFO thing comes, as far as I can tell, from John Lear,
beginning in the mid-1980's.  Bill Cooper (also known in UFO circles)
has put forth that JFK was shot by his driver (with a video to "prove"
it, which is apparently a doctored version of the Zapruder film), but
as far as I know hasn't 'connected' it to UFOs.

Charles
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy
From: alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Dave Alexander)
Subject: Re: Too secret for the US President's eyes?
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies, Minneapolis, MN
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 14:01:48 GMT

In article <n0=nlkc.tomrice@netcom.com>, tomrice@netcom.com (Tom R. Rice) writes:
> 
> pierce@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Brad Pierce) writes:
> 
> >>	There are a few levels of Top Secret, as we know, that are above
> >>	the President.
> 
> 	I assume those are the "burn before reading" levels.
> 	Of course, that's what the alt.alien.visitors folk
> 	have been saying about the documentation on the (in)famous
> 	Roswell Incident.
> 
> 	Yes, please elaborate.  (If I were Pres and learned of
> 	this, I'd be pretty well p-o'd.)
> 

>From some of the (unproven) things I have heard on the conspiracy circuit, 
I was under the impression that Kennedy learned of it, *was* pretty p-o'd,
told them he was going to tell the American people about it and that's why
he got knocked off.

Moral: Don't fuck with scientists working for the military-industrial
       complex, even if you're the president. They know what's best for us.

-- Alex --
From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Loose Lips
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:23:01 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/428.0 - <ParaNet(sm) , Arvada CO


 > So my question is, is it really likely that all these down-and-dirty
 > ground
 > pounders are going to keep quiet year after year if they really saw
 > something extraterrestrial?  If there is/was a conspiracy, those at the
 > highest levels could eliminate a few people, perhaps (like the nurse who
 > sketched the alien corpses at Roswell?), but a wholesale elimination of
 > all low-level people involved simply isn't practical, or even wise.
 > That
 > action alone would give away the conspiracy, I would think.

The notion that no matter how secret something might be, there will always be 
those who talk.  This is exactly what has happened with the Roswell Incident. 
Kevin Randle and Don Schmitt have interviewed over 300 people who were 
directly or indirectly involved in that crash recovery.  There were also some 
who refused to talk at all citing that they would be subject to severe 
penalties if they talked, even to this day, fifty years later.  What is 
interesting about the Roswell crash is that even after the military went 
around threatening everyone involved with various and sundry punishments, the 
story still leaked and persisted off and on through the years.  AFOSI (Air 
Force Office of Special Investigations) seemed to be the agency that kept 
popping up renewing vows of threats to these people.

Mac Brazel, the rancher that found the material originally, spent several days 
under arrest with the military while they sorted this out.  Whatever happened 
to him during those sequestered days went to his grave with him because he 
refused to even tell his son what was said or done.

Finally, (it may be harsh to state this, but it is a definite possibility 
anyway) the military could use various sanctions to hush someone up that would 
not necessarily fall in the realm of legal, such as JANAP 146(?), which was 
used to assure that no one behind the military veil talked to civilians about 
UFO sightings under severe penalty (10 years hard labor in a Federal 
Penetentiary and a $10,000 fine).  For example, they might use intimidation 
and tell a civilian witness, "If you ever talk, we will kill your family," or 
something like this.  I can think of several sanctions that they could use to 
get the point across.  So, given the serious nature even today of the 
government and the UFO files they still highly classify, it is reasonable to 
assume that they use the policy of "anything goes" as it may relate to this 
mystery.

Mike

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From: jmv@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Jean-Marc Vezien)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Alien in a bar.
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:25:59 GMT
Organization: GRASP Lab

In article <1992Aug27.220347.21319@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Robert.T.Warfield@dartmouth.edu (Robert T. Warfield) writes:
> 
>   A few years ago, I met an alien in a bar. Actually, It was a woman
> claiming to be an alien.

[usual sci-fi story deleted]


A few years ago, I met a woman in a bar. Actually she was claiming
she could bring me into new dimensions, upstairs.

I didn't try.

But I believe her.


JM.
From: rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu (Free Radical)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Moon Activities?
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:47:03 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <715021985.0@iphase.FidoNet.Org> Dana.Sandefur@iphase.UUCP
(Dana Sandefur) writes: 
[...]
>
>Kennedy's lack of inside information during the Bay of Pigs invasion is just 
>one good example to show how presidents are sometimes quite uninformed.

Was this because there were secret levels he was not told of?  Or was
it simply the result of poor communication?  If the former, please
back the statement up.

	RA

rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu
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From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Is 700 club safe?
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:59:43 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

believer@world.std.com (Frank G Sesco) writes:

>The results where frightening, Pat Robertson's speech was
>setting off TEN TIMES the more brain activity than the greatest speeches of
>Adolf Hitler and Stalin!

Hmmmm, that's quite a surprise since it seems to induce very little
brain activity in Mr. Robertson himself.

FoFP
From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: --> NEW CONSPIRACY EVIDENCE <--
Keywords: Conspiracy, Aliens, Greys
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:33:15 GMT
Organization: Boeing

In article <6qjn1f#.anson@netcom.com> anson@netcom.com (Anson Kennedy) writes:
>The problem with calling any single ad evidence of some great
>"sensitization campaign" is that it involves a leap of logic which
>simply is not justified.  You don't *know* the motives of the advertisers

How many ads does it take to decide it's a trend?


Rick


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From: jdr@starflight.Corp.Sun.COM (Jon Roland)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Alien in a bar.
Date: 29 Aug 1992 05:05:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jdr@starflight.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: starflight.corp.sun.com

This reminds me of a recurring motif of sf stories: that women (or at least the
attractive ones) are really space aliens who have displaced human women and now
secretly rule the world. Men are their (more or less) willing slaves.

Most men have from time to time suspected something like this might be true....

---

jdr@starflight.corp.sun.com, starflt@uunet.uu.net
Jon Roland
Starflight Corporation, 1755 E Bayshore Rd #9A,
Redwood City, CA 94063-4142, 415/361-8141

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Subject: Re: Is 700 club safe?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:30:31 GMT

In article <BtutnB.C4p@world.std.com>, believer@world.std.com (Frank G Sesco) writes:
> 
> Regrettably our files do not say for certain, but we have good reason to
> believe that Pat Robertson is one of the Alien false prophets.

Feh.  Tell me something I didn't know already.  B-)

The bit with the H-bomb bullets was also fun.
I wonder if they have thermonuclear hand grenades.  :-)

-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: anson@netcom.com (Anson Kennedy)
Subject: Re: --> NEW CONSPIRACY EVIDENCE <--
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 13:50:58 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Conspiracy, Aliens, Greys

kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek) writes:

>In article <6qjn1f#.anson@netcom.com> anson@netcom.com (Anson Kennedy) writes:
>>The problem with calling any single ad evidence of some great
>>"sensitization campaign" is that it involves a leap of logic which
>>simply is not justified.  You don't *know* the motives of the advertisers

>How many ads does it take to decide it's a trend?

You can call it a trend, sure.  But to say it involves motives other than
selling the product requires a bit more substance than aliens being featured
in commercials.
-- 

Anson Kennedy                                                   anson@netcom.com
Secretary of the Georgia Skeptics (but don't even THINK I speak for them!)

"If you don't watch the violence,    \           "If I had been the Virgin Mary,
you'll never get desensitized to it."  \                I would have said 'No.'"
-Bart Simpson                            \  -Margaret "Stevie" Smith (1902-1971)
From: mgfrank@avernus.com (Marc G. Frank)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Is 700 club safe?
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:02:04 GMT
Organization: Maryland Appreciation Society

In article <BtutnB.C4p@world.std.com> believer@world.std.com (Frank G Sesco) writes:
> First some background, aliens have been among us for 50 years slowly
>gaining control of the media and building sources of income. We discovered
>that Aliens have been posing as TV preachers, with the highly advanced
>technology of the aliens they have little problem convincing people with
>fake miracle healings. The Aliens have taken control of much of the

Gee, you'd think that if the Greys have such superior technology it
would be trivial for them to cancel articles like that one.

--
Marc G. Frank        mgfrank@avernus.com        "Hey, you never know."
                                                  -- NYS Lotto slogan
From: bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Maine Meteorite Sighting...
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:28:34 GMT
Reply-To: hedron::daveb
Distribution: na
Organization: ASO IM operations


B. T. Hebert writes:

> Is anybody on the NET from around there? How many "Authorities" 
> searched how far, and what if anything, did they find ?

I live in Maine, this ran in yesterday's local papers other than that I
didn't hear a thing. Although it sounds odd (low flying meteorite) it
was probably just a flamer coming down in the woods somewhere. I've seen 
then before up this way.
	
--
/dave

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From: garys@netcom.com (Gary Stollman)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: What is Gary Stollman..really?..
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:22:38 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

acosta@smaug.Eng.Sun.COM (Joe Acosta) writes:

>In article <92243.225014ROWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> ROWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>>
>>
>>And if you really must know, Gary Stollman is quite capable of
>>handling a firearm. It is a matter of record that he successfully
>>held a gun on a television newsman during a live broadcast and forced
>>him to read a statement concerning the "alien threat."

>Actually I believe the gun that he used was a very realistic looking
>toy and the person he forced to read his statement has "David
>Horiwitz" of "Fight Back!" fame.  Correct me if I'm wrong
>>
>>To his credit, nobody was hurt.

>That would be hard to do with a toy gun!

>>-------
>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ROWHC@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU.BITNET~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>!!!!! ROB WALTERS/ EDITOR, SPHERIC (Global Monthly For Humans) !!!!!!!!!!

>	Joe Acosta


*****
That is correct...

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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: UFO Chain Letter FLAME !!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:12:18 GMT


In article <1992Aug27.133759.22555@sunova.ssc.gov> kevin@andorra.ssc.gov (RICK O'LEARY) writes:
>In article <92239.214035EXG106@psuvm.psu.edu>, <EXG106@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>|> Fascinating note.  Obviously the person who wrote it (originally, I guess)
>|> suffers from extreme paranoia and seek psychiatric help immediately!
>|> These Greys and Reptiods (or were they from another note?) are ridiculous.
>|> When will people cut this "conspiracy" thing, especially when it involves somet
>|> hing so ludicrous as extra terrestrials, etc.
>					     ~~~
>
>LUDICROUS ??? ....  E.T.'S  ECT. ?!?!?!?!
>                            ~~~~
>DID YOU HIT THE WRONG KEY ON YOUR TRS-80 ????

Looks more like *you* did. The original poster spelled it right, but
you managed to misspell a 3-letter abbreviation. Pretty ludicrous that
you should be flaming others for misspellings!

>LEAVE US NOW OR WE WILL SHOW YOU THE TRUTH YOU FEAR !!!!!!!!

Leave us now or we will show you how to use your CAPS LOCK key. ;-)

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: kevin@andorra.ssc.gov (RICK O'LEARY)
Subject: Re: UFO Chain Letter FLAME !!
Reply-To: kevin@andorra.ssc.gov (RICK O'LEARY)
Organization: 8-Track Museum of Technology
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:37:59 GMT

In article <92239.214035EXG106@psuvm.psu.edu>, <EXG106@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|> Fascinating note.  Obviously the person who wrote it (originally, I guess)
|> suffers from extreme paranoia and seek psychiatric help immediately!
|> These Greys and Reptiods (or were they from another note?) are ridiculous.
|> When will people cut this "conspiracy" thing, especially when it involves somet
|> hing so ludicrous as extra terrestrials, etc.


WHAT ARE YOU DOING READING STUFF IN ALT.ALIEN.VISITORS FOR  !!!!!!

LUDICROUS ??? ....  E.T.'S  ECT. ?!?!?!?!
                            ~~~~
DID YOU HIT THE WRONG KEY ON YOUR TRS-80 ????

LEAVE US NOW OR WE WILL SHOW YOU THE TRUTH YOU FEAR !!!!!!!!

ROCKO
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Ley Lines
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 18:17:52 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Subject: Ruins of a 30,000 Year Old City,
   About Aug. 10, l992 I went over to Berkley, Calif. and tried to pick up me a copy of a certain magazine but it was not in so I bought
a copy of a magazine that I had never seen before (International UFO
Library Magazine Vol. 1, No.3 dated July o2, 19992). In it there was
an article or advertisement about a person called  Robert M. Stanley.
The article was titled MYSTIC MOUNTAINS Journey to the Ancient Land of Mu. This interested me so I sent him a letter to the following address Mystic Mountain Adventures, Dept. 100, 1142 Manhattan Avenue, Ste. 43, Manhattan Beach, CA. 90266,(310) 318-6567. He sent me back an information sheet and I phoned him and set up a time to go with him on one of his tours, which leave from his house in Manhattan Beach Calif. on sunday mornings at 900 AM unless a special tour is planned. It was decided that I should me
et the group at the Michael Landon Memorial Community Center in Malibu, Calif. because I was coming from Milpitas,
Calif. (north of Malibu) and the ruins of the city were near that area. The center is at the corner of Malibu Canyon Road and Pacific Coast Highway (just across from Peperdine University). 
End of Part 1.
John Winston.


 
From: Michael.Blackwell@f869.n800.z3.fidonet.org (Michael Blackwell)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: we have met the enem
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:11:04 +1000

 -=> Quoting Leonard Spani to All <=-

 LS> There are reports that some abduction victims show signs of 
 LS> Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. PTSD as it is currently understood is
 LS> supposed to only occur in people who have been the victim of an
 LS> objective (i.e. not psychological), external, stressful event (like
 LS> rape.) 
 LS> This would tend to indicate that the abduction event had at least some
 LS> reality. It could also indicate that something is wrong with the
 LS> way they understand PTSD or that the abduction phenomenon is a new
 LS> type of psychological condition that effects people in a manner 
 LS> usually reserved for externally induced traumas.

Like child abuse.  An alien abduction would be one way to come to terms
with being raped when a child, especially by one's father.

Michael


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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Supersonic wingless aircraft
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:40:43 GMT
Organization: Boeing

In article <1992Sep2.211706.2965@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> jagnow@al.weeg.uiowa.edu (Al Jagnow) writes:

I did...  and judging by the way they mangled the story here, I'd
suggest you go to the library and check out the AW&ST to get the
details.  Aug 17th issue...


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From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Supersonic Wingless Aircraft
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:29:04 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/428.0 - <ParaNet(sm) , Arvada CO


 > I heard something on the radio this morning about commercial airline
 > pilots in
 > california reporting a 'close encounter' with a wingless supersonic
 > aircraft.
 > I think the source was given as 'Aviation Week'.
 >
 > Anyone else catch the report -- or was I asleep at the time?

An article appeared in Aviation Week and Space Technology.

Mike

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From: rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu (Free Radical)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Ley Lines
Date: 23 Aug 92 19:20:52 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <64423@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear Everybody: You'll notice that some of the things mentioned in the 
                                    ^^^^
>last posting didn't happen.
>John Winston.

John - did _any_ of them happen?

	RA
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