From: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Bucher)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Braille N Speak Compl
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:03:46 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
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 Quoting Gary Petraccaro to Keith Bucher 11 Aug 92 01:01:28

 GP> Then for the firsttime computer buyer with limited funds, you
 GP> should plug the BNS as a cheap note-taker

I should?  Why?  Thanks but no thanks, Gary.  First of all, I don't
need advise on plugging anything.  Second, the bns is a note-taker.
You said firsttime computer buyer, didn't you?  Or did you mean
firsttime note-taker buyer?  Or maybe you're right.  Maybe I should
say, "You're blind, you don't need a computer!  They're complicated,
they're complex.  Their operating system is hard to learn.  The programs
are hard to use.  Buy a note-taker, that's all you'll ever need."
Gary, next time you come across a sighted firsttime computer buyer,
try and sell him on a $1,295.00 note-taker.  Why should the blind
settle for anything less.  If he's a computer buyer, talk to him about
computers.  If he's a note-taker buyer sell him a bns.

GP> should knock the Audaptor,MultiVoice, and Accent,

There you go again.  Is there a $50.00 synthesizer out there
available to the general public?  There's no justification whatsoever
in trying to bring other adaptive products in to this discussion
unless they have a comparitively priced counterpart.

KB> I've seen custom made serial cables go for as much as $60.00 and
KB> regular old parallel printer cables go for as much as $30.00.

 GP> And, if they were soldered rather than crimp fitted, you've seen
 GP> them last longer, too.

That may be, but as I can buy them by mail order for about $10.00,
let's hope they last proportionally longer.  I wouldn't be afraid to
go out on a limb and say that those parallel printer cables are the
same as those sold through the mail.  And I haven't even mentioned
nonadaptive modems, computers, printers, disks, etc.

 GP> Many newcomers here might be misled by you and that disturbs me.

Gary, if you are going to accuse me of misleading newcomers then at
least be man enough to tell me about all those so-called inaccurate
statements I made.  I, to my knowledge, made none.  So let's talk
about substance here, not just generally attack someone's previous
messages without anything whatsoever to back it up.  Is that fair
enough?  Or do I not have the right to ask this?  I cannot defend
myself against generalities.

GP> You should be helping by informing accurately.

I ask you once again, Gary, what's your definition of "accurately?"
So Gary, the ball is in your field.  Since you have
accused me of making inaccurate statements, what are they?  How
did I lead those newcomers astray?  Your accusations disturb
me. If you are going to accuse me of making inaccurate statements you'd
best back it up with facts.  Just as in your other message wherein you
attacked my credability you had nothing to back that up either.  I say
here and now that I did not intentionally make inaccurate statements.
If you disagree with me fine, if you think me to be an S.O.B. fine, but
don't just accuse me of making inaccurate statements and leave it there.
If you disagree with me on points fine, because I'm sure I disagree with
you on certain issues as well.  But I don't go off and accuse you of
making inaccurate statements and attempt to down your character.

GP> You could do this by asking Blazie pertinent questions more
GP> effectively than by hectoring him.

Okay, GAry, I'll do just that, in fact, I did send him a message in a
previous packet but as yet had no response.  Let's see if it works this
time.  Keith Bucher.

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