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From: EMN002@email.mot.com (Mary Beth Northrup)
Subject: Re: Things you do to save time
Organization: Motorola, Inc. Plantation, FL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:41:46 GMT

In article <cindy.226@berkp.uadv.uci.edu>, cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham) writes:
> 
> I'm sure that for most of us, the time we spend with our children is
> very precious, and we'd love to have more of it.  If you've found a
> way to shave a couple minutes off of a routine task, please share it
> with us.  Thanks in advance!
> 
> - Cindy Windham
> 
> 
My son loves bath time and plays in the water for as long as I'll let him!
He's only 19 mo old and of course I can't leave him unattended for ANY
length of time. But, our washer and dryer is right outside to the bathroom
door, so I can rotate loads or fold/hang laundry all the while keeping him
in direct view. That way, I can get something accomplished while he's 
having fun in the bathtub. Of course I take frequent play breaks!

Mary Beth Northrup
EMN002@email.mot.com
From: tsmith@cerritos.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: What does TEETHING cause?
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:03:59 PST
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA

I have a few questions regarding "TEETHING" and what to expect.  I have
an 8 month old who started teething around 6 months of age.  When he started
teething my wife and I noticed that he started to droul exessively and
came down with a few bouts of a fever.  The fever was not that bad but we
also noticed that he threw up a couple of times after the fever, we read 
different books on teething and what to expect but it did not mention anything
about throwing up.  This lasted about 3-4 days then it went away.  Now that
he is 8 months old he has just got over an ear ache which the Dr. gave us
a perscription for......could the teething also caused the ear ache?????????
Anyways, he's doing great, our son Steven has 2 small teeth on the bottom and
a few on top starting to make their way out.  A warning to moms about to breast
feed their todlers after the teething, be careful, my wife tells me
Steven's new habit is to start biting while breast feeding, Believe me, if 
your kids have not gone through this stage it's quite interesting to say the 
least.  Oh, and no, we did not use ambusol or num's it, our son did not like
the effects it had on his gums.

Tom.

*a parents work is never done!*
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From: gregory@csri.toronto.edu (Kate Gregory)
Subject: Re: ?? Who had AVENT bottle 800 number??
Reply-To: xtkmg@trentu.ca
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:53:41 GMT

[News problems at Trent mean I have to assume my alter-ego here -kmg]

In article <day_kevran-180193113810@130.252.108.182> day_kevran@tandem.com (Kevran Day ) writes:
>
>It seems that my dear little daughter [3 months] doesn't want to take 
>the bottle and
>spends the 2-3 hours she's with my husband in the afternoons hungry and
>screaming until I get home to feed her!  All that expressing at work that
>I'm doing is going to waste :-(!  We tried to give her the bottle too late.
> If we'd done that in the first few weeks as we did with my son, we
>probably wouldn't be having this problem.
>
I doubt it. There have been enough anguished pleas on the net from
people who introduced practice bottles and could happily give 4-6
ounces in a bottle each day, and who didn't have nipple confusion
or supply problems, but who discovered the little one wouldn't take
more than that 4-6 ounces, or wouldn't take from the caregiver, or
wouldn't take formula rather the breastmilk they had been taking,
to convince me that practice bottles don't do much good.

There have also been planty of anguished postings from people who are
experiencing "involuntary weaning" thanks to practice bottles. I
really don't recommend them. That's not to say that some people won't
get away with them; lots will. It's just that it won't particularly
help anything anyway, so why risk it?

Kate
From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Potheads of the 70's Raising Kids
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:28:04 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <1jnu3cINN523@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, lauraf@classy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Laura Floom) writes:

> 
> There is some truth in what you are saying but only if the person has an
> addictive personality. I knew someone who had a major problem with coke.
> I heard stories from te first (of several) rehabs she went thru. Basically,
> the patients were strongly encouraged to give up all other drugs (alcohol
> being the biggie) because it is common of addictive personalities to trade
> one drug for another. 

>They didnt particarly address tabacco, so that by the
> end of the rehab most of the people were practically chain smokers. I have
> heard that most AA meetings are one big cloud of smoke.

I can vouch for smoking among recovering addicts/alcoholics.  When one of my
sisters was doing inpatient rehab, it was truly astonishing to notice that
EVERY patient was an intense smoker.  And I remember going to her
one-year-of-sobriety AA meeting...I was a couple of months pregnant, the
meeting was held in one of those windowless meeting halls and I didn't make it
longer than a few minutes.  I was worried the fetus wasn't getting any
oxygen--I know *I* sure wasn't!

My husband has always wondered how come smoking is considered acceptable for a
recovering addict/alcoholic when they go the extreme of refusing to take an
aspirin, or to have novacaine for a tooth filling (true cases).  But meanwhile
they are puffing away like chimneys.

Ann Helmers
well, it started out as relevant to the discussion...
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From: menon@boulder.colorado.edu (Ravi Menon)
Subject: 800# for absorba
Reply-To: menon@boulder.colorado.edu (Ravi Menon)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:40:07 GMT

Hi, I've been trying to find a telephone number for absorba (childrn's clothing).  If any of you have the  # I would appreciate it.

Thank you,

Deantha
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From: kgatling@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Keith E Gatling)
Subject: Choosing Baby Names
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 07:28:49 EST

I forget who asked, but there was someone out there having a problem
agreeing with her husband on baby names.  Maybe this is entirely too logical
a suggestion to work with some people, but I'll offer it anyway...especially
since it was a method we tried.

How about each of you makes a list of ten or twenty names for each sex that
you like, see where (if) they overlap, and then discuss those.  Unless one
person is going for traditional and the other for unusual names, there ought
to be at least one name that overlaps on each list.

Just a thought.

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From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Circum.: When Parents Disagree : -(
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:27:29 GMT
	<29723@oasys.dt.navy.mil> <C14J4p.D8K@tsoft.net>
	<daved.727549221@convex.convex.com>
Organization: Sylvan Associates

In article <daved.727549221@convex.convex.com> daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:

   I assume you will not have your son's wisdom teeth removed if they become 
   impacted? 

Sorry, but I just couldn't let this go. So, I suppose I should have
his wisdom teeth buds extracted two days after birth just in case his
wisdom teeth might become implacted later. And his gall bladder, and
his tonsils and his appendix. That is the logic you are using. Do you
know the statistics of mishaps (infections, too much cut off, etc)
from the procedure vs. the amount of circumcisions medically necessary
for those uncircumcised at birth?

A friend of mine has worked on a sex information hotline. They get all
kinds of calls, including from men who have had their penis's cut off
because of a slip, don't have a head at all on their penis, have scar
tissue all over their penis, and so on. It looks like a neat simple
medical procedure, but like with any other procedure, things can go
wrong. Needless to say this has greatly affected those men's ability
to function sexually as adults.

My husband was circumcised - and didn't have any complications, but
our son is intact. If the unlikely statistic falls our way and he
requires the medical procedure of circumcision, then it will be done,
with appropriate pain medication.


-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89,
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Corey 1/31/91; we loved him so,
                                     Robin Gregory born 2/28/92

 "It seems to me that our large goal is to find the ways to help our
 children become humane and strong."
 
              - Dr Haim Ginott quoted by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish
From: M18611@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Kathy Wilk)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: SAFE SEX or SAFER SEX?
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:58:54 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA 01730

In article <1k1gl2INNaqm@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch) writes:
>
>M18611@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Kathy Wilk) writes:
>>
>>   Here's something I would like to have cleared up - is there such a thing as
>> safe sex (outside of marriage - OK, perhaps even in marriage, it's not so
>> safe...)?
>
>"Safe sex" is really an epidemiological concept. If EVERYONE used latex
>condoms every time, then there would not be an AIDS epidemic, period.
>That's pretty darned safe. Promotion of condom usage now could save
>millions of lives in the next decade or two, even though condoms are
>imperfect.
>
  This is the clarification I need - and although there may be a newsgroup
just about AIDS issues, I wanted the information to be understood among
parents.
  I don't think that if EVERYONE used latex condoms every time, there
would be no AIDS epidemic, period.
  My understanding is that _a condom is permeable_ - even by the AIDS
virus.  With a certain spermicide, perhaps the risk is 'less' but certainly
not nonexistent.
  Every once in awhile, I see this information published, as in my local
newpaper recently - a letter to the editor.
  This morning, I heard the Chancellor of the New York Public School System,
a Mr. Fernandez (who is promoting his new book) talk on the radio about the
problems his school system is trying to deal with.  The schools have health
resource rooms staffed by volunteers who are trained by the American Medical
Society.  The information they impart is that 'Abstinence is the only safe
sex' and if you HAVE to have sex, use a condom for LESS risk.  There had to
be a lot of legal consultation before the AIDS curriculum was in place because
they had to be sure that the school system would not be sued when a teen gets
AIDS after having sex with a condom.  They had to be very very sure that the
teens understand that they are assuming risk.
  Since AIDS can take as long as a decade to show symptoms in an individual,
the disease is a more serious threat than many teens recognize.  Or their
parents!
 
>Unfortunately, as you point out, "safe sex" on an individual level is
>meaningless, as long as there is an epidemic going on at all, and the
>term is used to refer to what might more precisely be known as "safer
>sex".
>
>Paula Burch
>pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
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From: mgaudrea@afit.af.mil (Michele L.D. Gaudreault)
Subject: Re: 7 week old has day/night mixed up.. help!
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:23:35 GMT

In article <2509@shaman.wv.tek.com> alanj@endeavor18.tek.com (Alan Jeddeloh) writes:
>In article <1993Jan15.213623.18127@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> slg@slgsun.att.com (The Idealistic Cynic) writes:
>>Iain, our seven week old, has decided that it's lots of fun to
>>stay awake between about 11:00 P.M. and 4:00 A.M.  My wife and
>>I don't think it's quite as much fun.
>
>This worked for us, but it was September in a mild climate.  You may have to
>do some serious bundling for Columbus in January.
>
>Per our pediatrician's instructions, we took Laura outside for 30 minutes every
>morning at dawn.  It didn't matter weather she was awake or asleep, it's the
>bright morning light that does the trick.  It took about two weeks to get
>Laura's clock set correctly.
>

We'll have to get some clear weather here in Ohio before it'll work.
(One clear morning since the new year :(( )

Michele

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From: kgatling@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Keith E Gatling)
Subject: Re: A few facts about circumcision
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 07:07:31 EST

In article <1993Jan21.162656.6962@cbnews.cb.att.com> lib@cbnews.cb.att.com
(Lib) writes:

   > Run that by me again. You're saying that there are a reasonable
   > amount of women who, assuming they are at a level of involvement
   > with a man that they will consider fellating him, change their
   > minds based on the fact that a guy is uncircumcised? Does
   > anybody else think that?

Well...I could name a number of women who find uncircumcised penises gross,
and probably would decide to not fellat a guy (is that a word?) based on
that.  However, I think I'll keep their names to myself for now.

Now in case I wasn't clear, I'm not saying that they would've offered to do
it, and then changed their mind upon finding out that the guy was uncirced.
What I'm saying is that once they had seen enough to know that the guy *was*
uncirced, they'd never make the offer.

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From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: More humorous developmental milestones
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:11:54 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <1jpqmhINN6pf@lindy.Stanford.EDU>, rabbit@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Aleta Hanna) writes:

> 
> An explaination of "growth spurts":  A child can will itself to grow
> that critical 1/8" to reach the fascinating (read dangerous/fragile)
> household item that you put out of reach the day before.


And of course they can grow that extra smidgeon that makes the adorable outfit
you plan to have them wear to the big family gathering just tight/short/snug
enough not to look like you thought it would when you planned this, a week ago!

Ann Helmers
mother of the world's tallest babies (or so it seems at every dressup occasion)


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From: wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Subject: *** SEEKING COPY OF DISNEY CHANNEL INAUGURAL STUFF FOR KIDS ***
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:18:09 GMT


Hi:

Anybody that has a video tape of the Disney channel's recent (Jan
19th) presentations of 'celebration of youth' and the inaugural for
kids (with Kermit the frog et all) Please consider either making a vhs
copy for me or allowing me to make a copy of your original.

I do not get the Disney channel and by the time I realized that the
program was being sent out 'in the clear' to all cable subscribers, it
was too late to tape it.  I saw part of it and am dying to see it all.

I will, of course, pay any postage and/or supply blank tapes or
whatever it takes to get copies of these shows.

Please reply via e-mail and let's discuss legistics of it.

I will pick up the tape if it is in Chicago or bring my machine over
to your place if you would prefer.  I CAN be trusted to return your
original if you don't have copying facilities.

Thanks.

Bill



       
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From: adculha@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Andrew Culhane)
Subject: Re: Why *don't* we tell? (was Home alone, not a good story)
Organization: The Great Beyond
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:27:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.162154.6664@cbnews.cb.att.com> lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib) writes:
 ... comments of mine deleted that even accused child abusers have to
     be presumed innocent until proven guilty ...
>
>Accused persons are not presumed innocent until proven guilty. That only
>happens when they are tried. People are routinely jailed, have their assets
>frozen, required to pay legal fees, etc. long before they come to trial.
>

You're right about these things, of course, but being imprisoned is not
an assumption of guilt.  It is an assumption that you are the most likely
suspect.  Being denied bond is also not an assumption of guilt.  It is
an assumption that you wouldn't show up for trial.  Having your assets
frozen is similarly not an assumption of guilt, and neither is having
to pay your own lawyer.

I'm sorry if I'm picking nits.  My point is simply that it would be
a Very Bad Thing if the courts assumed that all accused child abusers
were in fact guilty, and required them to prove that they were not.

"Child abuser" is already as convenient a label as "witch" used to be.
Just as you couldn't prove you weren't a witch if everyone believed you
were, you can't prove that you're not a child abuser.

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From: mgaudrea@afit.af.mil (Michele L.D. Gaudreault)
Subject: Re: nipple confusion and feeding newborn glucose-water???
Originator: mgaudrea@wb3
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:31:05 GMT

Posted at Peggy's request...

In article <C10C28.GIJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> Peggy wrote:
>I've heard two conflicting things.  Some people advise not to 
>allow the hospital staff to feed the baby glucose water after 
>he's born, because that can cause nipple confusion.
>
>On my hospital tour the nurse said that sometimes parents do not 
>allow this, which then means a tube is stuck down the babies 
>throat and he is given liquid by tube.  She said its a test done 
>to insure the passages are all open and working OK.
>
>Does anyone know more about this?  I don't want my baby to get 
>nipple confusion, but I also don't want an uncomfortable tube 
>stuck down his throat, and I don't want to forbid a necessary 
>medical test.
>
A nurse who worked in the maternity ward told me it was standard
procedure to give newborns a bottle of water "to insure all passages are
all open and working".  She also said it was not a good reason, since
breastfeeding would accomplish the same goal, and colostrum isn't any
worse than water.  (She was on a committee to increase the rate of
breastfeeding among the moms delivering at the hospital.)

She also told me that even though I had requested no bottles, Marie
probably (almost definitely) got one.  This made sense in hindsight to
me since the nurse who brought Marie to me initially told me she had a
good suck (how would she know if she hadn't given her a bottle?), yet
Marie had trouble nursing at first.

I may be paranoid, but I would suggest keeping someone you trust with
the baby at all times.  

Michele
From: wendy@carson.u.washington.edu (Wendy Grant)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: nipple confusion and feeding newborn glucose-water???
Date: 24 Jan 1993 01:02:58 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan18.221701.2603@nynexst.com> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes:
>In article <30043@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss) writes:
>
>  Hmmm... the must have did it without my knowledge, because my son didn't
>  start getting dehydrated until he went home.  At the hospital he had
>  wet diapers and it wasn't brick red.  Then they didn't tell me to give
>  him water, said that as long as he nursed he'd be okay.  If my husband
>  wasn't a doctor, we wouldn't have known that the brick colored stains
>  on his diaper meant that he was dehydrated.  After we gave him the
>  six ounces of formula his urine was normal.
>
>  I'm just posting this because I want to make sure people's babys don't
>  get dehydrated before nursing is fully established.


  I just gave birth on Dec. 28th (birth story still in prep). I was
told that the red urine is caused by uric acid and was also told (by
the nurse) that it meant dehydration. But when my pediatrician came
in to check my baby and I mentioned the red uric acid stains, the 
pediatrician told me not to worry about it. He said there was no 
correlation between the uric acid and dehydration. So I didn't worry
about it assumming the pediatrician knew more than the nurse. But my
son did get some glucose water in the early days mostly because I
was way too out of it even to attempt nursing for about 14 hours 
(Apparently I'm very sensitive to sedatives and when I started vomiting
while I was being sewn up after the c-section I was given a sedative 
(stops nauseousness) and I was way in the
ozone for a LONG time. And then my flat nipples didn't help matters....)
Anyways, whoever asked about this originally (I'm 450 messages behind)
might want to check with the pediatrican about the necessity for glucose
water......
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From: rmorey@utrc.utc.com (Randall Morey)
Subject: Re: That high-pitched killer shrill
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 17:43:00 GMT

In article <2935882800.1.wk00191@worldlink.com>, "Edward Kovelan" <wk00191@worldlink.com> writes...
>I have a 20-month-old daughter who insists on vocalizing her anger with 
>a sharp, eardrum piercing shrill.  Usually such an outburst is brought 
>on by her 4-year-old brother doing something she doesn't like (which can 
>be something like him snatching a toy that belongs to him away from her 
>or when he takes something of her away or other sibling torments) and 
>sometimes is brought on when I or her daddy tell her no.  I realize she 
>is approaching her "terrible twos" and maybe starting them early, but 
>how do I get her out of that ear-shattering habit.  Is it something I 
>should discipline her about (I do not believe in using physical 
>punishment) or is it just a phase which I and everyone else has to grin 
>and bear???  
> 
[text deleted]
> 
>However, I do not like listening to that shrill every time my daughter 
>gets angry...but since I've never encountered this type of outburst, I 
>don't know if it can be stopped by her parents or if it's something she 
>just has to grow out of eventually when she can better verbalize herself.
> 
>Thank you for any help or advice you can offer. 

I thought our windows would break!

The advice we got, and followed, was to put the child in the playpen in another
room (alone) until he/she stopped screaming. Once the screaming stops, 
immediately go pick up the child and praise him/her. I guess the child 
associates the reward (getting picked up) with no screaming. Anyway, it seemed
to work well for us. Good luck.

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