HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Gavin Adams <gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com>
Subject: Re: Warning on NEC CD-74 CD-ROM Drives
X-Xxdate: Tue, 25 Aug 92 12:32:40 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:36:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.002357.25749@afterlife.ncsc.mil> M. Scott Smith,
mssmith@afterlife.ncsc.mil writes:
>Is that how it works?  (The CDR-74 distinguishes between audio and data,
>spinning twice as fast with data; how does it differentiate, and is audio
>and data normally separated?)

Data and audio are separated (I think).  Speed on the Intersect drives
stay at 150kbs until the transfer size goes over some threshold.  At that
point the drive goes into double-speed and transfers at 300kbs. 
Applications with lots of small data access won't see a large improvement
in speed.

But I still bought a NEC CDR-83 and love it.

--- Gavin
Visualize Whirled Peas!
From: ajross@husc10.harvard.edu (Andrew Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: RE-MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:54:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.ajross.715355666
 	<1992Aug27.205714.13960@CS.ORST.EDU> 	<ewright.714956536@convex.convex.com>  
  	<STDKAP1.92Aug27224620@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu>   	<ewright.715018400@convex.convex.com> <ST

ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:

>>1) The IBM compatible 286, 386, and 486 machines have no built in 640k
>>limit. That is a limitation of DOS (Disk Operating System), 

>Wrong.  That's what the "PC World"-type magazines would like 
>you to believe, but this limit is not specific to DOS.  Many
>programs, such as VP-Windows, that do not run under DOS still
>have problems with it.  PC experts said that this limitation 
>would go away in Windows.  It didn't.  They said it would go 
>away in Windows 3.0.  It didn't.  They said it would go away 
>in Windows 3.1.  It didn't.  Now they're saying it will go
>away if I switch to OS2.   Well, I don't believe them anymore.
>There's an old expression, "Fool me once, shame on thee.  Fool
>me twice, shame on me."  


Mr. Wright, this is getting out of hand.  I have asked you before, and you
have not answered.  What problems are you having with memory management
and Ventura Publisher?  Several posters have responded with quite
knowlegeable posts as to why the 640k barrier no longer exists for
practical purposes.  You continue to assert that it does, but have yet to
detail even one memory management problem you have had at 640k.  Now, if
you are having these problems, please elucidate as some of us might
actually be able to help you.  If you are not, please stop your drivel. 
Windows effectively has no 640k barrier, and OS/2 cannot.  Period.

Andy Ross
ajross@husc.harvard.edu
From: cooneys@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Screensaver for ancient Mac 512?
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:12:59 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Can anyone point me to a screen saver that works with early 
Macs, such as the 512K? I'm running system 4 on it, and it 
doesn't handle INITs, as far as I can tell.


               -- Seamus Cooney, Department of English, 
		  Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, MI 49008
		  e-mail: COONEYS@wmich.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ataylor@agsm.ucla.edu (Al Taylor)
Subject: Software 4 Sale
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:52:28 PDT


I have the following software for sale, all prices include shipping:
(None of the below works with system 7, but does with 6)

HYPERWORKS ORGANIZER-timeworks			$5
HYPER ANIMATOR					$5
FOCAL POINT (ORGANIZER)-hyperware		$5
HYPERTUTOR-interactive hypertalk tutorial	$5
SUITCASE II					$10
WORD PERFECT VER 1.0.1				$10
MAC PUBLISHER II				$5
LETRA STUDIO-custom typography			$15
DTP ADVISOR-d.t.p./project management		$10
PAGEMAKER INDIVIDUAL TRAINER FOR VER 2 & 3	$10
SPRING BOARD PUBLISHER-d.t.p.			$15
DRAWING TABLE-drawing tools			$7
TOP HONORS-certificate creator			$5
TAXVIEW PLANNER 1988-92				$5
POSTERMAKER PLUS				$5
QUARK XPRESS 2.0-d.t.p.				$20


		GAMES	GAMES	GAMES

ANCIENT ART OF WAR AT SEA			$7
ALTERNATIVE REALITY-THE CITY			$5
SPACE QUEST I					$5
4TH & INCHES					$5
THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER			$5
SKYFOX						$5
PATTON VS. ROMMEL				$5


Also to the first person to purchase over $20 worth of software
I'll throw in a Demo version of Wingz.

E-mail me,

al			ataylor@agsm.ucla.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kanefsky@src.honeywell.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:39:30 GMT

In article <D2150035.ckgm3w@outpost.SF-Bay.org> peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce) writes:
>
>In article <D88-JWA.92Sep2004247@byse.nada.kth.se> (rec.music.synth,comp.music,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc), d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes:
>> 
>> Not to mention there's still nothing that beats QuickDraw in
>> imaging model. (No, there isn't)
>
>There will be soon - QuickDraw/GX.  It's way cool.

Display PostScript ain't half bad either...

--
Steve Kanefsky
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: A couple more easter eggs...
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:52:58 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug18.153045.3276@otago.ac.nz>, stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes:
> Found a couple of Easter Eggs the other day that I've never seen
> mentioned before:
>
> 1. Have a look at STR# ID -16415 in the System file (System 7,
>    don't know about 6). I'm not sure whether I like the
>    implications of this one -- interesting twist on an old curse
>    though :)

Had a look. Boring. Now, if it said something REALLY funny, like

	"May you code in interesting lines"

or

	"May your code run in interesting timings"

or even

 	"May you live on intersecting lines",

that would be REALLY something.

>
> 2. In SoundEdit 2.0, if you hold down Option (? one of the
>    modifier keys anyway) and click on the File menu, "Close"
>    changes to "Close for Joe". Doesn't seem to do anything
>    different that I noticed.
>

Doesn't seem to do this in 2.0.5. Option just changes the menu option
from "Close" to "Close All".

Lawrence D'Oliveiro                       fone: +64-7-856-2889
Computer Services Dept                     fax: +64-7-838-4066
University of Waikato            electric mail: ldo@waikato.ac.nz
Hamilton, New Zealand    37^ 47' 26" S, 175^ 19' 7" E, GMT+12:00
Today in 1987: Punk hackers invent "deathtop publishing".
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Math graphing software
Date: 3 Sep 1992 21:00:26 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: concertina

I'm looking for some software that I can use to graph
math functions, mostly algebra.

Mathematica is nifty, but out of the budget by a long
shot, as is Maple (?).

Any suggestions?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga,comp.sys.atari.st
From: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799... WHO CARES! Just emulate it.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:53:27 GMT
Reply-To: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc

>>>>> darekm@microsoft.com (Darek Mihocka) (DM) writes:

DM> In a few days I'll be release a shareware program called Gemulator.
DM> It's a 68000 emulator that runs on MS-DOS, and with the appropriate
DM> Atari ROM chips plugged into your PC, it emulates an Atari ST. Give me
DM> a few months to add 68030 emulation and you'll have yourself a Falcon
DM> emulator. Don't waste your money on the real thing and hell, why even
DM> lose sleep over it. Chances are slim that you'll see Falcons flooding
DM> dealer shelves any time soon.

What about the DSP 56K emulator. Will you release that as vaporware or
shareware?  :=) :=) :=)
-- 
Piet* van Oostrum, Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University,
Padualaan 14, P.O. Box 80.089, 3508 TB Utrecht, The Netherlands.
Telephone: +31 30 531806   Uucp:   uunet!mcsun!ruuinf!piet
Telefax:   +31 30 513791   Internet:  piet@cs.ruu.nl   (*`Pete')
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jons@tellus.unik.no (Jon von Tetzchner Stephenson )
Subject: Macs any good?
Organization: Universitetsstudiene paa Kjeller (UNIK), University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 07:09:32 GMT

I am considering switching computers. I have had a Amiga 500 computer
for some time and as it is getting a bit dated (for my use) I am 
considering buying a new computer. One of my options is a Mac.

I had a look at a friends LC. I guess I wasn't too impressed. The 68020
based computer seemed slower than my 68000 based Amiga. Slow menus and
in general a slow user interface. I also missed function keys on the
keyboard and a better mouse with more buttons. Do the more expensive 
machines (LC II, II, etc.) have better keyboards or mice? How much faster 
than the LC is the LC II?

I will also be needing some software. Do you know if the titles below are
available and how much they cost?

	o FrameMaker (3.0)
	o Tex/Latex
	o Good C (C++) compiler environment

Is there much good PD software available?
How much is a MIDI interface? (Is there 1 common standard?).
How much is a good sequencer program?

Thanks.

Jon.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf)
Subject: Stuffit SpaceSaver:  Works Great!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:26:10 GMT

Okay, my absolute last post regarding StuffIt SpaceSaver (for now, anyway (: ).
 After several email messages from a VERY helpful Leonard Rosenthol at Aladdin,
including one in which he sent me a Beta version of SpaceSaver 1.0.1, all 
problems are solved.  Since installing the updated SpaceSaver I have had ZERO 
problems with the system, and believe me by now I KNOW how to make the older 
version crash.  Thanks for the help, Leonard...the package is definitely worth 
the wait!

Bob
From: jobrien@umescsnw1.umd.edu (JAMES M. O'BRIEN JR)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Software that hides apps?
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:27:10 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland Eastern Shore

I'm looking for a software package that allows access to an application
on a Mac in a LAB environment, but disallows copying, modifying, trashing
etc.  I have seen something like this but don't know its name
I'd appreciate any help.

TIA


Jim O'Brien                     University of Maryland Eastern Shore
jobrien@umescsnw1.umd.edu       Network Manager
From: pricec@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (price carl wayne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 28 Aug 92 06:54:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Aug28.065401.29323
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


>>However, OS/2 with WPS beats macs user interface, and offers a nice OS for
>>the power user.

>Oh?  You mean IBM traded Apple the rights to the hottest RISC 
>processor around in exchange for an interface that's inferior
>to what Big Blue had already developed itself?  Who writes your
>material, kid, Groucho Marx?

Think about it, apple and IBM are jointly developing a new computer platform
that will be able to run the old software of both platforms, but not
be either.  Motorola is developing the chipset, and from what I've heard will
be able to sell it to 3rd parties.  IBM didn't want to get into the legal 
battle with Apple that Microsoft and HP did, so they got the rights to 
elements of the interface.  Apple has some good points, and was once
one of the best GUIs around, but they are loosing ground fast.  Try OS/2
and WPS before you get in a tizzy, you might be suprised.


-- 
Carl W. Price		 	*      * Work keeps us from three evils:     * 
Computer Engineering Student	*      * boredom, vice, and need.            *
Oregon State University		*      *                                     *
pricec@prism.cs.orst.edu	*      *       ---Voltaire                   *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: g5000005@nickel.laurentian.ca
Subject: RE: Re: RE-MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Organization: Laurentian University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:17:46 GMT


In <714823281.F00001@blkcat.UUCP> ewright.714853873@convex.convex.com responds
to <714823281.F00001@blkcat.UUCP> Kaz.Karl@f1138.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Kaz Karl)
writes:

>>a 396, by the way.)  We paid over $7000 for the hardware and
>>software.  After struggling with this machine and its miserable

	??? $7,000.00 ??? Maybe things would be clearer to me if you specified
	which hardware and software you bought? And when you bought this 
	machine. I bought a 12 MHz '286 (40 Meg H.D., 1 Meg RAM) less than 
	than 2 years ago and I can now buy a 50 MHz '486DX (130 Meg H.D., 4 Meg 
	RAM) for less than what I paid for the '286! BUT, (and a bit but) this
	would not be for American components, only Asian clone stuff!


>>performance for over six months, we finally decided that we needed
>>to spend even more money to buy accelerated graphics cards. Not to
>>to do anything sophisticated like fast 32-bit graphics, mind you,
>>just to run Windows.  Each of these cards cost about $600 by itself.

	It is appears that your company didn't know what you needed
	in computer hardware for the application. A $600 graphics card is 
	starting to sound like a frame-grabber (but maybe not, depending on what
	time period we're talking about). But I'm confused about the 
	reference to running Windows? I have loaded Windows on my '286 (just
	for fun) and while being slow, ran fine. Again, I wonder if you had
	the right tool for the job.


	I must add that as a long-time PC and VAX user, and a relatively newer 
user of MAC's, I am bewildered by the paranoia expressed by both PC and MAC 
users. I guess religous wars are a human condition (maybe they will find a 
gene for it someday! ;) ).

	I'm wearing my asbestos Fruit-of-the-Looms, so feel free to flame 
away....

Norm Neil
G5000005@nickel.laurentian.ca
From: macman+@pitt.edu (Dennis H Lippert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: check mac.archive.umich.edu Re: Too many INIT icons
Keywords: INIT, icons, startup
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:30:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug27.182800.11830@terminator.cc.umich.edu> dauter@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Michael Dautermann) writes:
>In article <gurman.714932342@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov> gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman) writes:
>>    I seem to remember that there's an app or cdev or something that
>>arranges INIT icons in rows on startup so they don't disappear off the

> /mac/system.extensions/init/iconwrap.sit.hqx

WARNING: Your mileage may vary, but my machine refuses to load trueType
(6.0.7 INIT version) when IconWrap is installed.  I thought it was the 
neatest thing in Mac-Land.  Of course, with that many INITs, it's quite 
possible that a combination of two or three of them was conspiring to
keep my machine typeless.

Just my experience, converted to ASCII!
Den

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From: dlutz@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: program for creating stereoscopic images?
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:04:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: uoft02.1992Sep3.140457.9818
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

I'm not sure if this is the best place to post this question, but here goes:
Does anyone have a recommended program to use to combine two TIFF images
to create a stereoscopic effect? The TIFF images are 8-bit greyscale, and 
created specificly for this purpose. I tried using Adobe Photoshop to combine
the images but didn't seem to get the desired effect; when I put on the
red/green viewing specs, I'm not getting any 3-D effect. Any suggestions as
to a good program (public domain or commercial) that can do this would be
appreciated.


Dave Lutz
The University of Toledo
DLUTZ@UOFT02.UTOLEDO.EDU
From: kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Software that hides apps?
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:00:00 GMT
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <jobrien.26@umescsnw1.umd.edu>, jobrien@umescsnw1.umd.edu (JAMES M. O'BRIEN JR) writes...
>I'm looking for a software package that allows access to an application
>on a Mac in a LAB environment, but disallows copying, modifying, trashing
>etc.  I have seen something like this but don't know its name
>I'd appreciate any help.

Possibly the new Apple extension, At Ease, is what you mean.  It substitutes 
for the Finder.  It should be available soon; I don't know the cost. 

Susan Kayser		NCF::KAYSER  or  kayser%nssdca.span@star.stanford.edu
Hughes/STX at NASA/GSFC/NSSDC
Greenbelt, MD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf)
Subject: SpaceSaver Woes Part II
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:11:02 GMT


I have had a few more problems with SpaceSaver, and possibly solved the earlier
ones:  in my previous post I mentioned how files became corrupt and unusable.  
This occurred while transferring files over Appletalk between two machines with
identical system software and Stuffit Deluxe 3.0/SpaceSaver installed.  In all 
instances (including several more today) the error I received prior to having 
to restart my system was "Bad F-Line Command".  This occurred when SpaceSaver 
started doing its compression scan while I was xferring files over Appletalk 
networks.  Maybe something there interfered with SpaceSaver?

Also:  Tried to rebuild my desktop today.  It got halfway done and then quit, 
leaving everything from my System Folder on up in the alphabetical hierarchy 
untouched (therefore iconless; only generic document/application 
icons...yuch!).  If I rebuild without SpaceSaver turned on, NOTHING gets the 
proper icons EXCEPT the System folder.  I have tried all these things (file 
transfers, desktop rebuilds) with NO extensions active EXCEPT the Stuffit 
Deluxe/SpaceSaver set.  If anyone has had similar problems or can help me solve
mine, PLEASE let me know...the Stuffit software works great, SpaceSaver seems 
every bit as good as AutoDoubler in terms of speed and compression, but MAN am 
I having a bear of a time getting everything to settle down!

Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: RE-MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:13:20 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <STDKAP1.92Aug27224620@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu> stdkap1@icarus.spc.uchicago.edu (Dietrich Kappe) writes:

>Oooh, hypercard. That is serious software. I bet that you use
>hypercard quite a bit, or else its just some peice of software you are
>subsidizing with your overpriced mac purchases, right? You do seem
>like a major hypercard power user to me. Can you point me to a good
>CAD stack? :-)

A program isn't serious software if it can't do CAD?  By that standard, 
most PC software isn't serious, either.  Turbo Pascal, Lotus 1-2-3, 
Ventura Publisher, DBase II, and all Microsoft products included.  Of
course, I'm sure your CAD program gives you full online versions of the 
Windows developer's documentation and the King James Bible, in addition
to cataloging all your disks for you, right?  I also assume that the
Center for Population Economics uses CAD software to write all its
reports, crunch its statistics, and keep track of its budget, right?
Or don't you do "serious" research there?


Of course the price of the Mac subsidizes Hypercard's development.
That's the point I've been trying to hammer into you.  When you
buy a Mac, you're getting a complete system. When you buy a PC,
you get a stripped-down machine, then you pay for the nose to
buy the capabilities you need (or, at least, as many of them as
you can afford).


>Wow! You must do an awful lot of systems programming (in Hypercard, I
>bet. Boy, that is a real feat. I'll go and sell all my OS books now. )
>Have you written much in this area? Where can I get your books?

Actually, all of my books have been on optimizing FORTRAN and
C coe performance, not writing operating systems in Hypercard.
If you send me your address, I'll see that you get ordering
information.  BTW, how many books have you written?


>That is quite a zinger. Those dumb DOS heads (well, OS/2 is just DOS
>6.0, isn't it?) might as well fold up their tents. You neglected to
>mention that A/UX is free, right? 

I never said that A/UX was free, or that it was worth the price
Apple charges, or that it would be worth having even if it was
free -- none of which I believe.  I merely pointed out that AU/X
exists which disproves your claim that the Macintosh hardware is 
incapable of running a preemptive operating system.  I don't claim
it's desirable, but it's possibly and available if you're silly
enough to want it.
From: wilson@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Samuel M. Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: trouble with HP Deskjet after Sys7 upgrade
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:21:02 GMT
Reply-To: wilson@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Samuel M. Wilson)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: wilson@bongo.cc.utexas.edu

I have been using HP DeskJet 2.1 (PD/share program) to print on 
my deskjet plus... slow, but it does the job.  When I moved over
to a IIsi and System 7, this no longer works (bombs the program, 
sometimes requiring a hard reset).  

Is there an upgrade to HPDJ2.1, and if not, what commercial programs
will allow me to use the printer under this configuration?

Thanks,
S.


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