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From: hargen@sybus.com (Bill Hargen)
Subject: Re: SPARC Classic won't run SunPC and Liken?
Keywords: Classic SunPC Liken
Organization: Sybus Corporation, Largo, FL
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:23:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.051820.5890@pdn.paradyne.com> bcutter@paradyne.com (Brooks Cutter) writes:
>In the January 1993 issue of "The Sun Observer" there is a article
>on Sun's demonstration of some of their new products 
>("Sun dazzles comdex crowds", p2 and p54).  
>
>They describe SunPC (a Dos emulator) and Liken (a Macintosh emulator)
>and later state that Sun introduced the SPARC Classic.  Towards the
>bottom of the article it is written: "The Classic, however, will
>not yet support SunPC or Liken".  It doesn't state why...
>
>Is this a hardware problem?? Or (as I expect) SunPC and Liken haven't
>been ported to Solaris 2.1?  If it is hardware, then I expect it won't
>work on the SPARC LX which uses the same chip, the microSPARC....

I spoke with someone at SunExpress about SunPC a few weeks ago.  The
answer was that the current version would definitely NOT run under
Solaris 2.1.  (I actually tried to load the version from the latest
Catalyst CD-ROM onto an IPX running 2.1.  The install failed trying
to edit rc and other config files and trying to load a module.  I gave
up after seeing that a loadable module was involved!)

SunExpress said that a new version would be available in "spring '93".
Although they couldn't commit to any specific date, this probably means
in the March to May time frame.

It's one thing for Sun to catch most of the other software vendors
by surprise with Solaris 2.1, but is rather ironic that they themselves
were not ready either.  Today's announcement in SunFlash is a good
example: SunLink PPP... for Solaris 1.x operating environment.

--Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: b77086@cc.ee.ntu.edu.tw ()
Subject: print jobs jammed
Organization: NTUTaiwan
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:22:35 GMT


	Our lab has 30 workstations and 2 printers. Nowadays
the printers occured some errors.
1) The print process often created alone. That is, our printer
's server has serveral lpd process at the same time. If I kill
them and restart daemen, the /var/spool/sparc/lock ( it store
lpd's process number) stores different process number from 
which I keyin ps -aux. So if I send print jobs, it generate 
another process again and again. Then, the printer server shows the printer is offline. I used all means I could, but it
didn't work. Only reboot can solve it. Maybe you have better
methods to fix it.
2) A printer cannot print the document beyond four pages. I have cleaned the disk space for printing, it still didn't work.

	Anyone can help me, thanks very much in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: su not working, gives "setgid: Not owner" ?
From: oleg@gd.       (Oleg Kibirev)
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:29:06 PST
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University in Fresno

In article <1iqh21INNdag@zephyr.grace.cri.nz> chrisp@grace.cri.nz writes:
>Hi,
>	I have a problem using 'su' on a sun sparcstation, it used to
>	work but then started giving this error:
>
>> su root
>Password: XXXX
>su: setgid: Not owner
>>
>
>	It only gives this error when I get the password right, and I 
>	can log into the account directly with no problem.
>
>			Thanks in advance,  Chris.
>
>			Email: Chrisp@grace.cri.nz
>

Did you try to mount /usr nosuid?

Oleg


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: rdist on Sun IPX
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 19:26:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.054244.19829@siemens.com> aad@siemens.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
>
>>Well, I've always found NIS to be more transparent than periodically
>>shipping files all around my net.
>
>So, you don't mind unreasonable line-length problems,

So have a front-end that takes care of things like netgroups, etc,
for you.

>ypserv hanging your machine,

Hm.  I've never had ypserv hang my machine.  I've had clients' ypbind
hang the client, though.  If it becomes a problem I'll install Sun's
ypbind patch.  Running "ypwhich" on the client clears it up within
a few seconds anyway.

>or having to rebuild the dbm files every thing you change something?

Well, you have to rdist your files to every machine everytime you
change something.  What's the difference?  (I'm assuming you're using
rdist instead of NIS.  You didn't say)  I dunno, I'd rather rebuild
and push an /etc/groups map to 2 slaves whenever I change it than rdist
it to 31 machines.  (Even with the new rdist a 'cd /var/yp;make' is faster
than rdist)  I'd still rather push a map to 10 slaves than rdist to 150
machines.

>What about the case sensitivity?

What about it?  I have yet to need it.

>How is it transparent to not be able to see how the original files look?

ypcat

>Don't tell me "ypcat" -- 

oops..

>ypcat does not provide
>aliases, for example, in a readable format, or with comments.

Interesting.  One time I accidentally nuked my /etc/aliases file
and i rebuilt it on the spot with "ypcat -k aliases > /etc/aliases"
Yes, I lost the comments and blank spaces but at the time it
was easier spending 2 minutes at an editor or 10 minutes fumbling
finding the file on last night's backup.  Even better I should have
just used "ypcat -k aliases | sed '1,$ s/ /:/'.

>> Or do you call forcing your users to
>>log onto a master machine to change their password "transparent?"
>
>Guess what:  /etc/passwd isn't the only file in the world.

Really?  Oh my gosh.

>>Yes, there are security problems, yes, there are gotchas, but overall
>>it works.  For me, I have a network of now 31 machines.
>
>Try it with several hundred.

I'm eager to.  How do you manage?

--Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mea@polaris.utu.fi (Matti Aarnio)
Subject: Re: TCP loopback patch
Organization: University of Turku, Computing Centre
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 07:46:19 GMT

mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills) writes:
>Does anyone have experience with patch 100584-02?  Like many patches,
>it's difficult to determine from the description whether I need to
>install it.  What might trigger this system freeze?  How is the
>loopback interface involved?  How would I recognize this type of freeze?
>Here's an excerpt from the README:

  You need to have a TCP stream via loopback (or possibly via some other
interface address) between two processes in your host, and the SO_KEEPALIVE
must be set (with setsockopt(2)).  Then, under some obscure condition, this
bug gets triggered.  If you can do anything, the "netstat -in" will show
FAST increasing packet counters on  lo0  interface.

>Patch-ID# 100584-02
>Keywords: tcp loop using loopback and BSD4.2 keepalive
>Synopsis: SunOS 4.1.1;4.1.2;4.1.3: system freezes using loopback interface,BSD4.2 keepalive
>Date: 22-Oct-92

  Well, yeah, freeze...  Have it to panic, and analyze post mortem dump...
(savecore(8), crash(8), analyze(8), and friends.)


>Patches which may conflict with this patch: 100303

  Yes, an earlier attempt to fix this...

>Problem description:
>
>        Under certain conditions the tcp code gets in a loop
>        and continuously sends acks, when using the loopback
>        interface this freezes the system.

  'Cos loopback is so fast... And doesn't generate interrupt at all..
(Actually any interface will do the same.)

>        Also BSD4.2 keepalive packets are handled with this
>        patch.

  If you have mixed system shop (with BSD 4.2 or Ultrix 4.1 around),
or your host wants to exchange SO_KEEPALIVE with such host, this
is a good one.

>-- 
>-Gary Mills-         -Networking Group-          -U of M Computer Services-

	/Matti Aarnio <mea@utu.fi>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: paul@lily.aerc.colostate.edu (Paul Williams)
Subject: Name server setup problems on Sun 3/50
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 18:31:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: USDA-ARS-WMU, Ft. Collins, Colorado

I'm trying to set up a Sun 3/50 with SunOS 4.1 to use a remote name server.
I am not running NIS and the local ip address of the 
computer is 129.82.171.11 (gateway is 129.82.171.1).

I created the file /etc/resolv.conf with the following contents

domain		aerc.colostate.edu       #local domain
nameserver	129.82.100.64            #primary name server
nameserver	129.82.103.75            #secondary name server


The command 'nslookup' works fine but ping, rlogin, telnet, etc
don't work. For example, if I enter
	iris% rlogin green.lance.colostate.edu
I see the message
	green.lance.colostate.edu: unknown host

Shouldn't the above commands find the addresses specified?
What am I doing wrong?

Thanks,

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From: vision@nic.cerf.net (Charles Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: SUN tar -r append function
Date: 12 Jan 1993 23:40:27 GMT
Organization: CERFnet Dial n' CERF Customer Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.cerf.net

I'm on a SUN Sparcstation ELC running SUN OS 4.1.2.  I'm
trying to use the -r option in TAR to append to a previously
written archive on an Exabyte 8500 (8mm) tape drive.  My 
questions are as follows:

1)	Does the tar -r option automatically position
	the tape correctly so that the files get added
	after the last filemark on the tape?

2)	If 1) is not true then is it necessary to use
	an mt command to space the tape to EOM before
	issuing the tar command?

3)	Does it matter which driver is used (ie. rewinding
	vs. non-rewinding)?

4)	Are there any known bugs trying to use this option
	with 8mm tape drives?

The tar -r option works fine for a disk archive, I just can't
get it to work on tape.  Any hints would be greatly appreciated.


Send replies to vision@cerf.net

Thanks,

Charlie Chen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Need Sun's X fonts in BDF form.
From: jkp@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (Jens Petersohn)
Date: 10 Jan 93 12:56:42 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

That's news to me. I used that very program to convert fonts for use on
a VAX of all things (for DECwindows) and had no problem what-so-ever.

Explanation?

Jens


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: libc ??
From: lindstrom@acs.harding.edu
Date: 12 Jan 93 12:57:50 -0500
Reply-To: lindstrom@acs.harding.edu
Organization: Harding University

Hello-
  The last two times I have upgraded the OS here (SunOS 4.1.1, 4.1.2) I
have run into a logjam with the libc files.  Though I will probably ask
the same  source for help again this time around (thinking of jumping
to 4.1.3 as a prelude to Solaris 2.1--can't get enough of this upgrading:)
I thought it might be nice to know what's going on. So..where do I start?
What are the libc files for and where can I find documentation that is
understandable by someone without a PhD. in libc??  If you can get me started,
I can take it from there.

Thanks,
Greg Lindstrom
Harding Uiversity
From: tony@longstreet.noname (tony calabrase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: DNS without NIS
Date: 11 Jan 1993 14:46:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tony@longstreet.noname
NNTP-Posting-Host: longstreet.larc.nasa.gov

	Is anyone out there running DNS with out NIS on a SUN under SunOS 4.1.3.  If so, would you let us know how you did.

			Thanks,


			tony@longstreet.larc.nasa.gov
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: /etc/system in Solaris 2.1
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:00:13 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>where does one find a list a variables that are setable in /etc/remote
>in Solaris 2.1? (answerbook page is fine..)

Try

	man -s 4 remote

(i.e., it's "remote(4)", just as it was "REMOTE(5)" in Solaris 1.x).

>BTW these are the little things I've noticed about installing Solaris 2.1:
>
>hostname = uname -S

Or, rather, "hostname <name>" = "uname -S <name>".  That's just SVR4
behavior, according to the documentation I have (AT&T only claims it to
be true on the 3B2 in the documentation I have, but that's probably
because they weren't sure other vendors wouldn't change it).

>/etc/hostname.le0 can't have a "." any where in it,

I think somebody said that can be fixed by putting double-quotes around
$addr in line 58 of "/etc/rcS.d/S30rootusr.sh".

>one uses pkgadd and pkgrm to untar things into /opt.. 
>/etc/restore = /usr/lib/fs/ufs/ufsrestore
>/etc/fstab = vfstab
>/etc/exports = dfs/dfstab

More standard SVR4isms.
From: gavin@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Gavin K. Longmuir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: CAP and Solaris 2.1
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:25:53 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
Reply-To: gavin@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Gavin Longmuir)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.12
Organisation: Research School of Social Sciences, Australian National University

Has anyone that uses CAP upgraded to Solaris 2.1?

I understand that there is a problem because there is no nit support in
SunOS 5.1. Anyone????


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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: "dlopen: stub interception failed" - read this
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:54:45 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>I found the problem thanx to an e-mail response from another
>news-reader.  It seam that the extra "/" in LD_LIBRARY_PATH defined in
>Xsession was the problem, THANX. 

Yes.

"-ldl" is implemented in a rather, umm, *unusual* fashion.

There *is* a shared library file named "/usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0"; however,
it contains only routines that print out "dl<whatever>: stub
interception failed" when called. 

The run-time loader, when it sees calls to routines in a shared library
file whose pathname is "/usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0" - *exactly* that, not
"/lib/libdl.so.1.0", and not "/usr/lib//libdl.so.1.0", and so on - will
search *its own* symbol table, rather than the symbol table of the
library file, for the symbol in question.

I.e., *if* the shared library happens to have the pathname
"/usr/lib/libdl.so.1.0", a call to "dlopen()", etc. in that library will
call the "dlopen()", etc. routine in "/usr/lib/ld.so", *not* the one in
that shared library.

However, if it doesn't have *exactly* that path name, it'll call the
routine in the shared library, and that routine will print a message
indicating that the run-time loader was unable to intercept the call to
the stub routine in the shared library and redirect it to the routine in
the run-time loader itself.

The moral of the story is:

	1) do NOT put "/lib" in LD_LIBRARY_PATH - if it comes before
	   "/usr/lib", it'll confuse the run-time linker, and besides,
	   "/lib" is just a symlink to "/usr/lib" anyway.

	2) do NOT put "/usr/lib/", or any other variant of "/usr/lib",
	   in LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

	3) do NOT write scripts that do any of the above to
	   LD_LIBRARY_PATH.

	4) do NOT put "-L/lib", or "-L/usr/lib/", or anything like that
	   in the linking instructions for a program.
From: rouilj@dl5000.bc.edu (John P. Rouillard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: rdist
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:29:39 GMT
	<C05H95.Aq6@babbage.ece.uc.edu> <1993Jan1.054412.19893@siemens.com>
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College


In article <1993Jan1.054412.19893@siemens.com> aad@siemens.com
(Anthony Datri) writes: 

   >It does multiple hosts in parallel. It has all the various
   >security holes fixed (and does not run setuid)..

   From the Makefile:

   install -c -o root -g bin -m 4751 rdist /usr/ucb/rdist

I believe what was meant is that the client side code (rdistd) does
not run suid. If you think about it for half a second, it is obvios
that the server side code must run suid if anybody besides root is to
use it.

-- John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.unix.shell
From: mills@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gary Mills)
Subject: Re: KSH on Sun
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:19:40 GMT

In <1993Jan7.143902.16634@news.columbia.edu> jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim) writes:


>- Does anyone know where I can get/buy Korn Shell for Sun?
>- I have seen PDKSH on the net somewhere.  Is it close enough to KSH to
>  use?

Pdksh works quite nicely on Suns.  You can find it in comp.sources.misc
and at FTP sites.  It has some differences from the real ksh, but you
are unlikely to notice them.

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-Gary Mills-         -Networking Group-          -U of M Computer Services-
From: ricky@FibHaifa.com (Ricardo <Ricky> Marek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Curiosity kill the cat! (Root partition partially deleted..)
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:46:53 GMT
Reply-To: ricky@FibHaifa.com
Organization: Fibronics ltd., Haifa - ISRAEL
Originator: ricky@vivaldi


The Crash:
   By accident, one of the scripts in cron has done:
        find / -mount -mtime +7 -a -exec rm -f {} \;
   This started to cleanup all root files, till it got to /dev/zero.
   After this file was removed, the find stopped and the machine got part
   of its files on root deleted...
   We don't backup root partition but /etc, so not all the files were lost.
   /var is in other partiton then root, so YP also saved!!
   /vmunix has not being removed.. by the find command.. Just lucky!!
The decision:
   Two possibilities were taken in consideration:
   - build the root partition from the distribution tape (Which will corrupt
     the usr partition that was O.K.)
   - Try to recover the files on this partiton (Root)
   I choosed the second one.
The recovery:
1.- One and went to other machine (SparcStation 4/40) and
    dumped the root partition into a tape.
2.- Then I booted the damaged machine from the distribution tapes and built
    a miniroot in swap partition.
3.- I made a dump (backup copy) of the damaged root.
4.- Restored the root partition from the other machine
5.- Restored the /etc files from backup tapes (Daily backups)
6.- created the /boot file because it was removed..
7.- boot the machine and come alive again like nothing has really
    happen..

Any comments or warnings with this procedure..
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From: thorinn@diku.dk (Lars Henrik Mathiesen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,aus.mail
Subject: Re: Timezones,Australia,SunOS4.1.2
Date: 10 Jan 93 15:04:48 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

dclunie@pax.tpa.com.au (David Clunie) writes:
>I keep getting complaints from people I mail to that my mail is going
>out with the time specified as "CST" which conflicts with the USA "CST"
>specification - they all want me to change it to an offset from GMT.

Well, that is what the applicable ``standard'' (RFC 822) mandates ---
only the North American zones are permitted, everybody else has to use
+/-HHMM format. I was not aware, however, that using other zones broke
anything. If it does not, you might choose to ignore the complaints.

>I have set up several Suns' using the standard install menu and selected
>Australia, then South Australia, as requested. This presumably uses the
>stuff in the zoneinfo directories to establish the timezone. I presumed
>that what came from sun was ok, but this seems not to be the case !

The question is, do you really want _all_ dates on your system with
timezone strings like +0930 and +1030? The mail program has to make
sure that the Date header has the correct format, no matter what the
timezone is called locally. Fix the mail program, or report the bug.

> - will this later form upset any mail readers that expect a certain date
>   format ?

It had better not: the format is in the RFC, and a lot of sites seem
to be using it, even North American ones that could use abbreviations.

Lars Mathiesen (U of Copenhagen CS Dep) <thorinn@diku.dk> (Humour NOT marked)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: steve@neopath.wa.com (Steve Faull)
Subject: vmstat paging info
Organization: NeoPath
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:57:26 GMT


Hello,

Would someone please tell me what "page reclaimes" (re) and "page attaches"
(at) under the vmstat program mean.  I think they mean number of pages
paged in (re) and the number of pages paged out (at), but I'm not sure.

Thanks in advance,

-Steve


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: eric@homebase.vistachrome.com (Eric Brunson)
Subject: Routing on the same segment with a Sun
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:38:53 GMT

Here's a question that our SE was not able to answer off the top of his
head.

We have a single ethernet segment, but are running several machines who
for historical reasons must use a different subnet address.  That is
we are 157.131.0.0 and they are 192.9.200.0.  Right now we are using 
Pcroute on an 8088 with 2 ethernet cards.  My question is, can my
sun route addresses between the two nets without requiring a 2nd
ethernet card?  I have tried 'route add 192.9.200.0 157.131.1.210 0'
but that didn't work.  Do I need to run gated?  Is this thing I want
possible?  Am I a bonehead?  These questions and more on the next
Hard Copy.

Seriously, though, any help is appreciated.  Email and I'll summarize
is requested.
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