HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark)
Subject: Re: 'cfmakeraw' library call?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:25:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.043307.28508@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:
>In article <Bx9t0y.Gr1@ns1.nodak.edu>, grosen@isc.cs.ndsu.nodak.edu (Johannes Grosen) writes:
>|> 
>|> I've been wanting to have 'script' on my machine for some time
>|> and decided to snarf the sources from the 4.3bsd-reno distribution.
>|> There were no problems except for a call to a function 'cfmakeraw'
>|> which I have never heard of before. From it's name and where it's
>|> called I would assume it puts a terminal in raw mode but I hate
>|> to 'ass-u-me' anything. Has anyone heard of this function? Can
>|> anyone confirm my assumptions?
>|> 
>
>It is in 4.2 :-). Please do check if that works or not.
>
>
       [ remainder deleted ]
>
>H.J.
>-------

It compiles okay with the addition of include <sys/types.h> before
include of termios.h. 
But, when I use it with script; script immediately terminates on
entry; as though it saw an EOF on first read.  Will work on it.

-- 
Al - aclark@netcom.com - My opinions are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ryentis@seas.gwu.edu (Richard D. Yentis)
Subject: Fax and rzsz software
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:14:29 GMT

I started using Linux about 2 weeks ago and so far so good!  (I am a
little disappointed that my TVGA8900B can only use X windows in
mono-mode.  If there is a way around this let me know!)

I was wondering if there are any public domain fax programs that will
fork with Linux and if so, where to get them.  Also the rzsz programs
on tsx-11 are share ware.  Is there a public domain version?  (If I
look on Archie for "rz" I am sure that I will find hundreds, but I
will have to ftp each just to see if it is public domain or not ...)

Finally is there an ispell.el to go with the ispell which comes with
SLS?  My ispell.el wants version 2.0.02 but the SLS ispell is 3.0.0.

Thanks in advance,

Rich
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From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Uucp ? Working ?
Date: 4 Nov 92 19:49:47 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats

In article <720766658snx@grendel.demon.co.uk> jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave) writes:
>
>In article <TERJEVE.92Nov2130311@bera.ifi.uio.no> terjeve@ifi.uio.no (Terje Vernly) writes:
>
> 
>> You will have to escape til !-sign, or else the shell will interpret
>> it.  When then shell encounters '!/user/src/LISTING' it will search
>> the command-history for a command beginning with '/user/src/LISTING'
>> and excute it.  Try typing '!ls', and the shell will execute the last
>> ls you did.
>> 
>> Try this : uucp nucleus\!/user/src/LISTING listing
>If you're using bash and this works, please let me know. As far as I know,
>bash will kindly not search the history - that's the good bit - but
>leaves the backslash in the command line - the not so clever bit. You
>need to use the bash command to stop ! expansion to get around this. I
>raised this question a whil back and several people responded with the
>correct incantation to stop history expansion. Unfortunately, I can't
>remember it at the moment, and since I have to read news under dos until
>I can get slip and tcp/ip running, I can't read the man page to tell you
>what the command is. I fear bashes escaping of ! is broken.


To turn off csh history searching in bash:

set +H

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: nhc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (n.h.chandler)
Subject: Re: kernel panics in 0.98.3
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:04:30 GMT
Summary: 0.98.3 panic, no keyboard response, other probs!

In article <1992Nov6.195156.13972@daffy.cs.wisc.edu>, quale@spock.cs.wisc.edu (Doug Quale) writes:
> I have been getting occasional kernel panics in 0.98.3.
> 
> Machine: 486DX, 12Mb RAM, Western Digital ethernet card.
> System activity: ftp'ing many small files + shells in two other VCs
>  (not running X).
> Error message:
> 
> Bad address passed to kernel free_s()Unable to handle
>  kernel paging request at address cc247c47
> Oops: 0000
> EIP: 0008:000273a8
> EFLAGS: 00010002
> fs: 0017
> base: c000000, limit: 000a0000
> Pid: 0  process nr: 0
> 83 78 0c 00 75 f3 fb c3 90 90
> task[0] (swapper) killed unable to recover memory
> Kernel panic trying to free up swapper scpace 
> In swapper task - not syncing.
> -- 
> Doug Quale
> quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu
> ------

I have the same problems with 0.98.3.
Machine: 486DX/33, 8Mb RAM, SMC ethernet card (WD8013).
No problems with 0.98.1

Neville Chandler    nhc@mtdcr.mt.att.com

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From: PINHC@CUNYVM.BITNET (David Pincus)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 0.98pl1 doesn't recognise my mouse
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:44:00 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi there, I'm sick of MS-DOS/WIN and I'd like to move to linux, I've been
reading the conference and can't figure out exactly what files to get to
this. I can ftp to tsx-11.mit.edu.  I have a 386/33 8mb ram and a free 20 meg h
ard drive. but if I can get enough decent software (ie some windowing, dtp,
wordprocessing, telecom) I'l gladly erase my 80 meg dos drive. Any replies
would be greatly appreciated.
From: iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu (ARIT ISMAIL)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: just asking for help..!!
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:48:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

Hi Linuxers,

I've just got my 486DX-33MHz 8M ram 200M Hard drive Gateway-2000.
I am planning to create 3 partitions  my harddisk, two for DOS (C:,D:)
and one for Linux (50Meg). First, my gratitude to those who made this 
FREE Un*x available to public. Thanks.     
So, where am I supposed to start?. Can I just use DOS fdisk to create
my 3 partitions, and start loading SLS package to last partition?, 
or do I have to use Linux own disk partition utils ?. Also, if anybody 
out there, installed Linux (including X8514) on his/her Gateway-2000
486DX-33MHz machine, PLEASE let me know how you did it..(especially X8514, 
clock speeds and etc..) I appreciate any help. Thanks.
Happy hacking..!!

iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu
From: engel@sj.ate.slb.com (Mike Engelhardt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: linux-0.98.3 termcap problem
Date: 8 Nov 92 03:09:17 GMT
	<92308.071727NU013809@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
	<1992Nov6.111844.90524@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>
Organization: Schlumberger ATE, San Jose
In-reply-to: apm233m@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au's message of 6 Nov 92 00:18:44 GMT

> In article <92308.071727NU013809@NDSUVM1.BITNET>, Greg Wettstein...>
> [stuff deleted]
> > After logging into a couple of systems I suddenly noticed that the
> > virtual console was restricting itself to 24 lines.  For example if
> > less is used to view a file and the sh prompt is on the bottom line
> > of the screen the entire output gets displayed on the bottom line of
> > the screen.  Using less with the prompt at the top of the screen
> > causes less to use the console as if it had 24 lines.
> >
apm233m@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
 
> Which comms program do you use? I use kermit to talk to a VAX runningVMS
> and I too get the 24 line problem. My guess was that it was probably
> kermit which was at fault.

No.  Kermit doesn't do terminal emulation at all(the unix version doesn't,
that is).  Kermit just passes through any characters it gets(except usually
it will strip the 8th bit).  It's up to the application on the remote host
to send the escape sequences required.  You need to get the host you're
calling to know what kind of terminal it's talking to.  I doubt that this
is a problem in Linux at all, but with the host.  Can you get the the
application you're running to run with more than 24 lines of text locally?
Look through the host's etc/termcap or try defining your own.

-- Mike E.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hans@mo.hobby.nl (Hans Oey)
Subject: Re: IRQ problem with 0.98.3
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:43:49 GMT
Organization: Makkee & Oey

jwomack@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Joseph Womack - EECS) writes:

>I have compiled 0.98.3 with the 2 patches, and when I boot, I get
>the wrong IRQ's at boot for 3f8, 2f8, 3e8.  It seems to change
>everytime I first boot the system (cold boot from powerdown).

in kernel/chr_drv/serial.c
#undef AUTO_IRQ
--
Hans Oey
hans@mo.hobby.nl
From: rzhwj@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Wolfgang Johannes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Q: X installation, font path problem?
Date: 9 Nov 1992 10:25:47 GMT
Organization: Universitaet des Saarlandes,Rechenzentrum
NNTP-Posting-Host: sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de

Hello may I help you?

you have to use the command mkfontdir into each font directory.
After that procedure X will be able to find the fonts.

bye
Wolfgang

rzhwj@rz.uni-sb.de
From: arizona@acpub.duke.edu (Barry Starrfield)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS C Series intstallation problem
Keywords: SLS, GCC, 2.2.2.d7
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:04:26 GMT

Hello,
	I'm having trouble installing the C series of the SLS distribution
of linux to my machine.  The a series and b series installation went fine;
however the c series installation seems not to have been done right, the
compiler refuses to start saying:
GCC cannot exec as: file or directory does not exist.
	I've tried to reinstall SLS twice, and I still recieve the
error.  Could some one please tell me what I have done wrong, or whether
I should reinstall the entire system?
	Thanks for your time.


DUKE UNIVERSITY - WHERE WE CAN NOT ONLY READ, WE PLAY A MEAN GAME
OF BASKETBALL (AND A PATHETIC GAME OF FOOTBALL).
From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Does Linux use segmentation?
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:43:41 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

hpa@nwu.edu (H. Peter Anvin) writes:
>On the other hand, this technique is not the way UNIX and C likes to do it.
>They prefer a flat virtual memory space, and use system calls for file
>access.

Actually, C has nothing against the kind of segments you describe.  It
is quite wrong (under the standard) to compare pointers to different
arrays except for equality.  There's nothing, for example, to stop
malloc from allocating a completely new segment.  It could, in fact,
be quite a nice aid to debugging.

--
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi  (finger wirzeniu@klaava.helsinki.fi)
   MS-DOS, you can't live with it, you can live without it.
From: asb@cs.nott.ac.uk (Andrew Stuart Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Non-destructive partitioner wanted
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:47:31 GMT
Organization: Nottingham University

The subject says it all, my 50Mb partition is in dire need of expansion and I
don't relish the thought of backing up 150Mb of DOS stuff and 50Mb Linux before
I even start.

Regards,
Andy. (asb@cs.nott.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jnewbern@athena.mit.edu (Jeffrey L Newbern)
Subject: Re: Problem w/P4 and EMACS
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:35:56 GMT

the problems with emacs core dumping under pl4 are due to achange in
fd_set.  until you can get an emacs binary compiled under pl4, you can
use this temporary fix:

recompile the kernel after changing NR_OPEN to 32 in limits.h 

if you can't recompile the kernel, use vi.

jeff
From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Does Linux use segmentation?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 01:51:28 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.
NNTP-Posting-Host: mamba.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov11.011359.27473@cbnewse.cb.att.com> sph1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (stephen.p.hill) writes:
>
>I get the impression that Linux uses combined paging and 
>segmentation, in fact that nearly all modern OSs use 
>the combination.  Is this true?(the part about Linux)

Like most modern OSs, Linux uses paging and avoids segmentation
(for the most part) like the plague.  This is because modern
processors do not have segmentation, and it does not fit well
with modern operating systems design.

You will hear the word "segment" kicked around in a lot of
places and a lot of different ways; be careful.  Just because
you have, say, a "text segment" doesn't mean you use
segmentation.

c
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: eoi@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Chenmin Zhang)
Subject: help "man"
Keywords: man
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:11:28 GMT

  I have installed hlu's bootable root 0.98pl1 version of linux, plus
gcc 2.2.2d7, gnu groff package(including groff, geqn, gpic, gtbl, etc),
xfree86-1.1... stuff.  But when I install man package from both tsx
and sunsite binaries distribution, (man1.1.bin.tar.Z), when I do  
 
     % man man
 
 and I get:
 
     % warning: couldn't stat file /usr/man!
     % no manpage for man
 
     I checked that I do have man.1.Z in /usr/man/cat1 directory and I have
 all the gnu groff package: such as gpic, groff, geqn, ... and I have
 .bash_profile and .profile sitting in my root directory (I am running man
 at root).  When I type manpath, it gives me : /usr/man   which is all
 right.  I have manpath.config sitting in /usr/lib, man and manpath 
 in /usr/bin.  BTW, the kernel is: linux0.98.1.

    I have tried man other stuff in /usr/man/cat1, every time the warning
message appeared and last line :no manpage for man  changed to corresponding
name.  And appropos and whatis both did not work.

    Help please!  So I can fully use this 2-3 M manpage hard disk space.
From: khamer@sumax.seattleu.edu (Little Kenny Hamer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: How to set up Minicom to respond to Non-Root users
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:00:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.5654
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

I have finally decided it is a good idea to not log in all the time as
root...  Too easy to make mistakes.  Unfortunately, I can only use Minicom
as root.  I have put my non-root account info in the minicom.users file,
and the permissions all seem to be set correctly.  When I type 

minicom

as any normal user, I get the humurous but not very informative response:

You do not exist. Go away.

Any suggestions????

Thanks,
    -Ken Hamer
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Warning: using old stat() call. Recompile binary.
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:05:52 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <martin.721363005@menaik> martin@cs.UAlberta.CA (Tim Martin; FSO; Soil Sciences) writes:
>My attempts to compile the latest Linux have not been very 
>successful.  With patch level 4 I get the following error
>several times, for each disk access command I enter:
>
>  Warning: using old stat() call.  Recompile binary.
>
>This warning line is found in the fs/stat.c code, in a
>function called "old_stat_call()".

Yes - I'm going to remove the old stat() interface in 0.99 or so, so I
wanted to warn people this way.  If you get the above messages all the
time, the culprit is probably your shell: just get a new bash binary
from a new rootdisk or similar.. 

If you want a slightly more informative message, you can change the
kernel sources warning in fs/stat.c to

	printk("Warning: %s uses old stat() call. Recompile.\n",
		current->comm);

That way the kernel will tell you *which* binary is old...

>Other errors still not solved, not found with 0.98 but
>introduced with 0.98p3 and 0.98p4:
>
>1. "* substitution" no longer works.  This is not corrected
>   by "unset noglob".

Same problem: your shell is old, and doesn't use the 'readdir()' system
call, but tries to read the directory directly.  That no longer works. 

>2. The following error notice occurs on all logins (root or
>   otherwise) and prevents the login from putting me in the
>   home directory.  (I can cd to the home directory after,
>   no problem.)
>    shell-init: getwd: cannot access parent directories.
>   The same error occurs occasionally during other disk
>   accesses, sometimes without the "shell-init" prefix.
>   This is not corrected by "chmod 755 /".

This *might* be due to your mount-points not being 'dr-xr-xr-x'.  That's
how linux seems to want them (I haven't actually checked this out very
much: I'm not sure if this is a feature or a bug..).  Check them out
before mounting them (the permissions get hidden by the mount, so you
can't see the problem afterwards..).  Also, you should naturally make
sure that all the other paths up to your home directory are ok.. 

		Linus
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Some interesting Novice Questions (not found in FAQ)
Date: 5 Nov 1992 12:01:28 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

dingelde@igd.fhg.de (Dennis Dingeldein) writes:

>Hi!
>Here are some question of a Linux-novice. Please post me your
>opinion(s), even if you want to answer just one question.
>Every mail is apprechiated, if there is a large echo I'll summarize.

>1) Would you state that Linux is good enough to buy a PC just to run
>   Linux/X11 on it ?

Yes, depending on the applications you need to use it for. If you
are just needing word processing I don't know. But, if you need a 
multi-tasking multi-user environment I would have to say yes.

>2) Is a 15'' Monitor (1024x768ni, >80Hz) "good" enough to read the X11
>   default fonts of X11 ? Or is 15'' a pain ?

15" is getting low, but should be fine for reading the fonts on. Hell, at
school with the nice 16" monitors we have for the IPC's I use the 6x10
font and love it.

>3) Does Linux support Local Bus Architectures ?

Depending on what you put on the bus yes. I have heard some video or
disk controllers have problems though.

>4) There is a S3 X Server 0.0. Is it a good idea to buy a S3 card 
>   or will this server work only with some (a few) S3 cards, but not with
>   the most/all cards ? (the low speed of 0.0 would be no problem, I believe
>   that will change in the next months)

Right now from what I understand the S3 server only works with a few cards.
This should change as more of these cards become common in default setups.

>5) Is it a good idea to use one singe efs-partition of lets say 200 MB
>   for all the Linux stuff ? Are there disadvantages for this efs solution
>   (efs=extended file system) compared to a set of "usual fs" partitions ?

I caution against using the efs for any important data. I used it
for a while for my root and /usr partitions and found that when put under
heavy usage. (Lots of compiling usually) that race conditions would show
up where blocks were getting missallocated and directory entrys were
getting bad entrys.

>6) I noticed that mkefs failed ("not enough memory") to make a 160MByte
>   efs on a 486 with 4MB memory. Is there a work around (besides using
>   another partition as swap partition...). 140MB worked well (as I 
>   remember)

Don't know why this would happen with mkefs.

>Dennis
>-- 

James
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark)
Subject: Re: Removing shoelace
Keywords: shoelace, mbr
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:14:20 GMT

In article <1549@yetti.UUCP> g-majar@cs.yorku.ca (Bernard Majarais) writes:
>
>Just doing a followup to my own question. The solution is to use Dos 5.0's
>fdisk /mbr, where the /mbr is undocumented. What it basically does is
>rewrite the master boot record with the standard one.
>
>Thanks to those who replied.
>-- 
>Bernie  (g-majar@cs.yorku.ca)	| If life is a highway then what should
>				| the speed limit be?

Just for completeness, this undocumented /mbr switch is also found
in DOS 3.31's fdisk.  Which might be useful for somebody.
-- 
Al - aclark@netcom.com - My opinions are my own.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ianj@citrus.SAC.CA.US ( Ian Justman )
Subject: Mailserver software
Organization: Citrus Grove Public Access ( 916 ) 381-5822    Sacramento CA.  USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:24:03 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Does anyone know of any good mailserver software?  I'm contemplating 
moving all of my DOS UUCP activities to Linux, but I need to do mail-
serving for a couple of newsgroups.
-- 
Born to void warranties!	ianj@ijpc.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg)
Subject: Problems with SLS root disk. HELP!
Keywords: Linux, SLS, OS
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:22:59 GMT

Hi,

I've ftp-ed the SLS install version of Linux from nic.funet.fi and copied it onto
DOS formatted floppies. At home I have rawritten files a1 and a2 to formatted
floppies. Floppy `A1` boots without problems. It asks for the display type and
after that it displays the following message:

  "Insert root disk and press <Enter>"

I then insert disk 'A2' (that is, the rawritten A2 file). The computer reads
something from floppy and then goes brain-dead.

Am I doing something wrong or doesn't it work on my computer? I have a 40 Mhz 386
(AMD) with 64 kB cache and 4 MB RAM. My harddisk is a Seagate ST1239A with IDE
interface. Trident VGA card (T8900). AMI BIOS (05/05/91). PC-Chips M321(?)
mainboard.

I've tried to disable turbo, cache and shadow, but it still didn't work.

What can be the problem?


Jerry

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com (Kevin Routh)
Subject: Re: MAXTOR
Organization: Ford Motor Company Scientific Research Labs, Dearborn, MI
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:52:38 GMT

jrsellec@socs.uts.edu.au (91066720 j r selleck) writes:
:  was wondering if Linux gets along with a 213 Mb Maxtor Hd.
: 
:  I dont yet have linux or the HD as linux does fit on an 80 MB HD that
:  has only 8 megs left after windows and games... :(  Maybe I should get
:  my priorites right ?!?!?
: 
:  Any way I was looking at getting a MAXTOR HD  it is 213 Megs and has
:  a 15 ms access time..`
:  Thats about all I know about it, but I was hoping someone who uses
:  both could tell me what they think..
: 
:  James
: 

I have heard that the Maxtor 213 does not get along with other IDE
drives.  You cannot mix it with a Seagate or a Conner IDE and have
them work together as master/slave.  I know two cases where it didn't
work.  Be careful!  It is tempting with the price of the Maxtor drive.
--
Kevin C. Routh                     Internet:    krouth@slee01.srl.ford.com
Ford Electronics                   IBMmail (PROFS):               USFMCTMF
ELD IC Engineering
17000 Rotunda Drive, B-121         Voice mail:              (313) 337-5136
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: alexp@sci.kun.nl (Alex Priem)
Subject: Re: Linux - the future?
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:44:05 GMT

In <3175@nlsun1.oracle.nl> jhelberg@nl.oracle.com (Joost Helberg) writes:

>keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith) writes:
>: In article <1cv4nbINNn7v@frigate.doc.ic.ac.uk> ajt@rri.sari.ac.uk writes:
>: >Keith Smith (keith@ksmith.uucp) wrote:
>: >: [...]
>: 
>: BTW I have the TeX book. Hehehehe.  Yea, show that to my wife, right.
>I did, she wrote her thesis using TeX, no she didn't mathematics;
>theatre science!

I showed my TeX output to somebody and he said something like 'nah, just
looks the same like the stuff I print with WP on my deskjet'.
Some people just don't get it :)). And that's where WP is for. :))


Greetings, ALeX
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