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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 93 12:04:00 SAST
From:         JCT@SUNVAX.SUN.AC.ZA
Subject:      Printing on HP IIP
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I have run into problems trying to print on A4 size paper on an HP Laserjet
IIP in Lingua.  In the Layout menu, I selected Text form (I think), which
gave me the option of choosing Letter, Legal, and among other sizes, also
A4.  I chose this option (70.14") and followed the suggested Page length
settings.  Lingua then inserted among others a PB24 delta.  However, when
I tried to print the file, I got a message on the HP IIP "MP Load Legal".
I changed to MP Size on the HP to "Legal" and the printer then printed the
first page of the file.  It then requested "MP Load Executive"; I pressed
ALT Continue on the printer and it printed half of the next page.  Every
subsequent page was also printed half a page at a time.  The way I finally
solved the problem was to delete the PB24 delta; after that the file printed out
fine.  Could anybody perhaps explain this?  I suspect the value of the PB
delta is the problem, but why is it inserted at all?

Johan Thom
University of Stellenbosch
Internet: jct@sunvax.sun.ac.za
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From:         VANDIJK@ALF.LET.UVA.NL
Subject:      RE: NB4 -> email utility
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The (DOS) utility I wrote some time ago, NB-ASCII, and that changes a
file in NB, from DOS or from within NB, directly to an ascii file without
any NB codes, and with appropriate CR's after each line, works in seconds
and may be extended (easy: I have to add one line to the program) to
also un-accent high bit ascii chars (in practice: all accented letters)
which produce problems in e-mail. Whereas the earlier version is
necessary to get an ascii file with accented letters, the new version,
which I will also send to Itamar, will be the one needed for e-mail.
However, JPTakala's program, which is now being offered, may work better.
(For Dorothy Day I tested mine also on a 1 MB file, and it seemed to
work OK --when I tested it: it changed the 1 MB file in NB to an ascii
file in a few minutes).

Teun A. van Dijk
University of Amsterdam
Program of Discourse Studies
210 Spuistraat
1012 VT Amsterdam, the Netherlands.
Phone: +31-20-525.3834 (office)
Phone: +31-20-6.27.37.47 (home --after 14 hrs)
FAX:   +31-20-525.3052 (office)
FAX :  +31-20-639.1727 (home)
E-mail: teun@alf.let.uva.nl

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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 92 13:39:16 GMT
From:         Tony Hirtenstein <tonyh@IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      25in1 cartridge
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        Michael Jasper,
        I'm glad to hear that NBI are moving at last, in their
inimitable way, to support the Deskjet 500 25-in-1 cartridge.  Does
this mean support for version 3 as well as 4??
--
**************** Tony Hirtenstein ********************
tonyh@ibmpcug.co.uk ************* West Oxfordshire ***
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 93 17:35:00 EST
From:         "Ada_W.Finifter" <FINIFTER@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Seeking installation advice
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One reason for retaining a D: drive is if you are using a data compression
program such as Stacker.  So Bob may have a good reason for wanting to retain
D:.  I think the way the NB4 installation works, you either have to use the
same drive as where NB 3 is or you have to have the original NB3 disks
available to insert when prompted.  If you have enough room on the C: drive
for at least a temporary duplication, I'd install on C:, copy everything from
NB4 over  to D:, and then delete NB4 from C:.  I would not delete NB3 from C:
quite yet.  I have run into a few situations where I could not print old files
from NB4 even though NB4 converted them.  I have also had NB4 crash on me
repeatedly at critical times.  In each case, I have been able to use NB3 and I
certainly would not want to be in the position of having to reload
from floppies when I was enduring an emergency, esp with a program like NB
which seems to have a mind of its own.
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Subject: UU Help
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:16:10 GMT
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Thanks (and admiration) to Peter Binkley for saving those of us floundering
with uudecoding by the diagnosis of the circumflexed e.
Tim Moore
Department of Philosophy
The University of Hong Kong
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 93 07:57:21 EST
From:         "Gerald W. Schlabach" <GSCHLABA@IRISHVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: On returning from a distant country...
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On Mon, 28 Dec 92 13:38:19 GMT Tony Hirtenstein said:

>...     [How strange that we use such a crude medium, with its
>unforgiving syntax and unsorted mail, to convey the subtleties of
>NB!]

Is this not a metaphor for all human talk about the transcendent?

Of course, Tony knew that, judging from his Augustinian, or perhaps
Plotinian subject line.  Of course, most of us are still looking
for that distant country.  In the world of NB also....

Gerald W. Schlabach           |     Item bellum nullum argumentum est
University of Notre Dame      |     pro veritate fidei Christianae.
Schlabach.1@nd.edu            |          --Francisco de Vitoria, 1539
From: GSCHLABA@IRISHVMA.BITNET (Gerald W. Schlabach)
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Subject: Hardware questions (video cards, especially)
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:14:08 GMT
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I am considering taking the plunge and buying a 386 machine (used, but
refurbished by a reputable local company).  There has been some discussion
of video cards that don't work so well with NB.  The one I am considering
has a Genoa VGA card running a NEC Multisync monitor.  I have never heard
of Genoa, and a search of back discussions on this list comes up empty.
Is there anyone out there who has this card and has had problems?  I don't
expect to run Lingua in the foreseeable future, but I'd like to know what
I'm getting.  Reply off-forum.

If anyone wants to give me any other free advice, the machine is a 386/dx16,
with an 80-some meg Seagate MFM hard drive.  I forgot to ask exactly which
processor (duh).

Gerald W. Schlabach           |     Item bellum nullum argumentum est
University of Notre Dame      |     pro veritate fidei Christianae.
Schlabach.1@nd.edu            |          --Francisco de Vitoria, 1539
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From:         Barbara T Blaustein <btb@SMILEY.MITRE.ORG>
Subject: Re: Failure to print: clarification
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I've had similar difficulties, although I haven't yet played with the
printer enough to understand clearly:
The lingua printer driver (9-pin dot matrix!) ignores a command to print
multiple copies; after it prints the first copy, it stops printing, and
(I think) the status line reported that it was done. Subsequent commands
to print the same file elicited the reply "done printing" immediately, and
this was true: the program was done printing and wouldn't print that file
again, no matter what. I think that storing the file and then opening it
again was enough to set things straight again, as long as I didn't ask for
multiple copies again.

To Bob Hoberman: I received your messge, but I don't think I was able to
transmit successfully to you; please send me an accurate address.

Michael Blaustein
btb@mitre.org
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Subject:      Re: can't set bold video default
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              937:36 pm

Peter Parisi wrote........
>
>
> I am running NB3 with a gray scale monochrome monitor and VGA card (maybe
> SVGA).  Tonight I tried to reset the video for bold but none of the settings
> I tried showed up on screen.  I made sure not to duplicate any of the
> numbers used for othersettings.  I saved the changes, issued the "load
> default.set" command, and redesignated the printer as the manual instructs.
> I also tried rebooting by quitting and reloading NB, quitting and doing a
> ctrl-alt-del and turning the computer off.  Nothing made any difference
> ever.  When I got this monitor I was able to set all the settings as one
> would expect.  Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?  Thanks.
>
> Peter Parisi, Humanities Division, Penn State Harrisburg
>

Peter,

Odeda having opened the way to the possibility of sounding insulting
by suggesting the obvious, may I compound any injury?!

Are you sre that you are actually loading the versions of default.set
that you think you are loading? If, for example, there is an
adventitious copy in a subdirectory earlier in the system path than
\nb3, then no matter what you do to the one in \nb3 it will not be the
one which is loaded. From within NB, give the command "find
default.*"; this will find every possible copy and backup copy of
default.set, and you may surprise yourself. I offer this suggestion on
the basis of the experience of my own personal stupidities, and being
embarrassed by what I discovered!
 ---------------
Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Subject:      Re: default and UU/XX format
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My thanks also to Frederik Pedersen.  Our VAX is apparently substituting the
ascii dot-on-a-reverse-grid character, which NB4 has reserved for internal
operations, thus making it impossible to put on the action line for a uni-
versal change.  A plea to all to use the XX format.
J. P. EARLS / ST.JOHN'S UNIV. / COLLEGEVILLE, MN / 56321 / JEARLS@CSBSJU.EDU
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 93 15:59:12 IST
From:         G9026163@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Subject: Re: Failure to print: clarification
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I, too, had a similar problem the other day with the Lingua printer driver
and my DeskJet 500.  I requested multiple copies; it printed one and refused
to print the document again until I closed and reopened the document.
Multiple copies with the non-Lingua DJ500 driver works well, however.

Paul Caron                              G9026163@SSCvax.CIS.McMaster.CA
McMaster University
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CANADA
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 93 15:59:55 IST
From:         PARKINSN@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Subject:      Re: NB4 to NB3
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>NB4 is not as familiar or as flexible for my purposes, e.g.
>it cant print draft on my Deskjet......

I have an "original" Deskjet printer with DJ+ soft fonts, and NB 4.0
prints draft fine.  You select draft on the printer and not with N.B.
as was the case in earlier versions.

Ted Parkinson
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
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From:         Ian C Jarvie <icj@NEXUS.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      NB4 to NB3
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Is there a simple way to make NB4 files into NB3 files?  Much as I
admire NB4 it is not as familiar or as flexible for my purposes, e.g.
it cant print draft on my Deskjet, so sometimes I would like to
reverse a decision I made to start a piece of writing on NB4.  How to?

--
icj
(I.C. Jarvie, Dept. of Philosophy, York University, Toronto)
<icj@nexus.yorku.ca>
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Yes, I finally got up the courage (and got hold of the programs).  But
why did the first tell me every line was corrupt, while the second
(xxdecode20) simply produced a perfect zip?  (It happened the other way
round with a different xxe file: I think the one that decoded that was
the same one that produced it.)  Any advice now I've finally
moved into this new world?

But the real message is, many thanks to Dorothy for doing a wonderful
job.  Various things have now become clear... .

Judy Evans  Pol York England
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 93 15:16:51 -0500
From:         "M. Roy Harris" <mrh3b@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VGA to EGA font file
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I install EGA fonts on the computer that drives the EGA monitor
attached to it.

Roy Harris - University of Virginia
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 93 09:15:16 +0000
From:         "John E. Koontz" <koontz@ALPHA.BLDR.NIST.GOV>
Subject:      Re: 1993 wish list
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Roy Harris - University of Virginia
mrh3b@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU, mrh3b@Virginia.Bitnet

> The thing at the top of my 1993 wish list would be for NB4 to be brought
> back into line with NB3 as regards ease of configurability of drivers.

Let me second Roy's wish list.  I can't even consider NB4 until this is
possible.  We seem to have taken a giant step toward WP (except that
wizzards can actually modify WP).
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 93 23:44:00 PST
From:         William Bodiford <IBFBWMB@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Pagination in running header
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Regardings Bennun's problem with page numbers in running headers:
Mervyn, I have not printed very many documents with NB4, but all of them
have successfully used running headers placed on about the 10th line or
so to print the page number beginning on the second page.  Your problem
might be related to local factors.  good luck.  --William Bodiford

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> Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 93 15:16:06 GMT
> Reply-To:     Nota Bene List <NOTABENE@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
> Sender:       Nota Bene List <NOTABENE@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
> From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
> Subject:      Pagination in running header
> To:           "Mark J. Pisaro" <IABOSPI@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>,
>               William Bodiford <IBFBWMB@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>,
>               Guillermo Hernandez <IBGDGEH@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>,
>               Mark Infusino <IJA4MHI@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU>,
>               "SHIRLEY ARORA ILX3ARO@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU" <ILX3ARO@MVS.OAC.UCLA.E
DU>
>
> I'm sure I'm missing something, because this is so simple a problem
> that the fact that I have it is evidence that I am....
>
> Why won't a RHA delta insert the page numbers unless it operates from
> p. 1? Other text is inserted - the title, for example - but not the
> page number __on any page__ unless the delta is located so as to be
> operative from p. 1.
>
> NB 3 did not mind if the RHA delta was not on the first line of the
> first page.
>  ---------------
> Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
> Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
> Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
>
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Posted-Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 12:34:30 EST
Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 93 08:27:45 IST
Comments:     Resent-From: "Itamar Even-Zohar,
              Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM>
Comments:     Originally-From: jacka@charity.sas.upenn.edu (John R.
              Abercrombie)
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar,
              Porter Chair of Semiotics" <B10@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Assistance requested, if you can help?
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Can anybody be of help? -- Itamar.

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Dear Collegue,

Uri Melammed, a visiting professor at the University of Pennsylvania,
has been trying to get some answers out of Nota Bene concerning their
coding schema for Hebrew.  Basically he needs a lexical list for how
they coded the Hebrew characters so that his data can be processed on
one of the UNIX workstations on campus.  Uri wants to produce a
concordance to help him work through his data in a different format.
Can you help us by providing us with the coding equivalents.

Thank you in advance.

Jack Abercrombie
Assistant Dean Computing (Humanities)
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 93 15:03:51 IST
From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
              Sociology" <JTAKALA@FINUHA.BITNET>
Subject:      NB4 -> email utility
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I've sent Itamar, for possible uploading to NB archives, a new utility
to produce files suitable for e-mail, EM-CLEAN.RUN.  I'd be glad to
send it to anybody who would like to try it out before it is available
in a public depository (XXE format, about 10 K).

The program is based on Michael Shalev's EMAIL.RUN and Allan Needell's
revised version of that, NB4EMAIL.RUN, and written with a lot of help
from Allan.  It uses NB's REVIEW to produce the basic file, then
removes formatting deltas and several other offending characters from
the file.  It then invokes an external program (included in the
package) to remove those ASCII 0 characters that REVIEW, for one
reason or another, inserts in its output.

          The present program does NOT treat high bit ASCII
          characters.  It does, however, allow the use of many
          formatting features, such as indentation (here) or tabs
          (below).(1)

          Yes                           No
          --------------------------------------------
          Indentations                  high bit ASCII
          Tabs
          --------------------------------------------

J-P takala

Jukka-Pekka.Takala@Helsinki.FI
Internet: Jtakala@cc.Helsinki.Fi
Bitnet: Jtakala@Finuh.Bitnet


____________
1 Or "footnotes"
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From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
              Sociology" <JTAKALA@FINUHA.BITNET>
Subject:      default and UU/XX format
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Could someone repost XXENCODED the latest word on NBCUSTOM.SET, please?
UUencoded stuff routed via TAUNIVM does not come through to me
(although directly mailed usually does).  I think I'm not the only one
with this problem, that's why a public reposting may be in order.

j-p takala
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              933:19 pm

M. Roy Harris wrote........
>
>
>
> 2) Gardening: This has nothing to do with NB, but we have a fair
> number of subscribers in the UK, one of whom may know the answer
> to this gardening question.
>
> There was a report on the radio this morning concerning some
> newly discovered healthful properties of the purlane plant --
> e.g., it's very high vitimin E content. Purslane is generally
> considered a weed here in Virginia, %but I visited a woman in
> Broadstairs, England some years back who showed me the plant in
> her kitchen garden and told me that it was excellent in salads.
> The _OED_ says that it is also occasionally eaten as a potherb,
> adding that it is not much grown nowadays. Does any of our
> English readers know if an English seedsman offers an improved
> garden variety of purslane?
>
>

Who cares about work - this is far more interesting!

I'll ask She Who Makes Chutney, whose knowledge about these things is
encyclopaedic - she also makes the best salads in the world.

One advantage in living in Devon is that the rural nature of the
countryside and the mild climate (hysterical, wild, cynical, sneering
and bitter laughter) makes for vast local resources in the Garden
Centres, and the information should be readily available from one of
them.  You could try writing to Bernaville Nurseries, Three
Horseshoes, Cowley, Exeter EX5 5EU - one of the best and biggest.

I heard a robin this morning - high out of the reach of my three
avicidal cats - explaining the current political situation in great
and lengthy detail. Staking out territory early in the year, I
thought...?

It's a dank, drizzly, heavily grey, vaguely mild day here....  oh, how
I miss the sun. Devon and Cornwall are supposed to be the warmest
parts of mainland Britain, and it does not snow much, but the endless
grey is very hard. You oudjies in Pretoria and the Eastern Cape - tell
us about it! Seriously, has the drought broken?

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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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