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From: soh@gdstech.grumman.com (Scott O'Hare)
Subject: Re: Note Off Problems (was: Korg DS-8 multitimbral problems anyone?)
Reply-To: soh@gdstech.UUCP (Scott O'Hare)
Organization: Grumman Data Systems-Woodbury
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:06:29 GMT

In article <tjt.718657975@sparc-10> tjt@blink.att.com (Tim Thompson) writes:
>soh@gdstech.grumman.com (Scott O'Hare) writes:
>>The Ensoniq ESQ-1 has a sightly different problem with Note Off commands
>>that this discussion reminded me of: namely, it sends "proper" Note Off
>>commands (3-byte sequences beginning with hex 08), instead of the more
>>usual practice, which is: sending a Note On command (3-byte sequences 
>>beginning with hex 09) with Velocity (3rd byte) set to zero. Do all 
>>Ensoniq keyboards do this? and is there some way of "fixing" it (without 
>>buying a note mapper or equivalent piece of external hardware)?
>
>Under what situation is this (generating real note-off's) a problem?  I assume
>that you've got some software or something that doesn't handle it well -
>I'm wondering how common that problem is, and whether people writing
>MIDI software should make allowances for it.  ...Tim...tjt@blink.att.com...


Not exactly a problem that everyone would have, I guess... just a note 
transposer which fails to transpose the note offs - I guess you can figure 
out what this sounds like. I used a MIDI monitor, and traced the "problem" 
to what I described above  - really posted it more for general amusement 
that in expectation of assistance. But it DOES seem that, with the MIDI spec 
running out of available bits and bytes, the best way to send note offs 
is as note ons w/ vel=0, and free up the "8n" byte for other things... 
(probably would save a couple of bytes in Ensoniq's firmware, too)

soh

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From: feng@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Wuchun Feng)
Subject: EV257/EV357 microphones
Reply-To: Wuchun Feng <feng@cs.uiuc.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:43:11 GMT

My apologies if this is the wrong newsgroup to post the following question
(I couldn't find a more suitable newsgroup):

What's the difference between an EV257 and an EV357 dynamic microphone?
Does anyone have an idea as to their respective prices?  I've heard that
the EV357 costs about $100.

Thanks,
Wu



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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: bohdan.kiszczuk@rose.com (bohdan kiszczuk)
Subject: Wavestation klutz app
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:11:51 GMT
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Date Entered: 10-09-92 19:03

D > From: dan@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Dan Bennett)
D > Subject: Wavestation klutz appeals for help!

D > Hi Wavers,
D > 
D > I wuz playin' my WS-1 with my brain switched off yesterday evening, and I
D > pushed a couple of buttons that I shouldn't have, and succeeded in overwriting
D > ALL the info in RAM1 with the contents of ROM. Oops.
D > 
D > Now stop laughing, will you!
D > 
D > Anyway, there were some sounds I was really rather attached to, and
D > almost all of them were the factory presets (I haven't written a
D > librarian yet, so I haven't got my hands dirty with heavy sound designing).
D > So I became miserable, because of course, not only were my RAM1 
D > performances wiped away, but also anything in RAM2 which uses RAM1
D > patches and wavesequences.
D > 
D > The one I really miss is "Glider".   Waah! Sob!
D > 
D > So question 1:
D > 
D >   Is there a magic hold-this-button-down-while-switching-on operation which
D >   restores the factory presets? There is on some kit I've heard of. I don't
D >   fancy a trial & error approach in case I hit one which wipes the lot!

         Nope.

D > 
D > And question 2:
D > 
D >   Or can anyone provide me a sysex dump of the factory-preset contents of
D >   RAM1? I suppose a uuencoded version via email would be what I want, or
D >   an Atari-format disk (though I've got no software for squirting it out,
D >   as far as I know).

      Probably easier to get a RAM card and go to your local WS dealer 
and dump the bank from one of their WSs. In the meantime enable memory 
protect.

D > 
D > And question 3:
D > 
D >   Or can anyone write up all the patch and wavesequence info needed to
D >   reconstruct "Glider"? - I've still got the Performance as it's in RAM2.

      The Performance is a 1 patch/4 osc. called RAM1 Glider (clever).

      The patch consists of the following waves

      A-ROM 104 Supersaw   99  -5  +3   +1.00
      B-ROM  16 WS Fade    99  -12 +5   +1.00
      C-ROM 278 13-01      99  -5  -3   +1.00
      D-ROM  16 WS Fade    99  -12 -5   +1.00

     This should get you back on track, I think.

D > 
D > And question 4:
D > 
D >   Anyone got other ideas of how to rescue me (eg RAM card)? Or am I just
D >   a Dork?

      You're not a DORK (I had to say this since I did something 
similar the second day I had my WS). Get a Librarian or if your 
sequencer supports it just dump everything to your sequencer.

D > 
D > Thanks, and fingers crossed (though it doesn't help my arpeggios),
D > 
D > Dan Bennett.
D >
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: miguelr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (miguel.a.rivera)
Subject: SY85 librarian (Help needed)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:04:05 GMT
Keywords: SY85,Midi

Hi everybody,

I would like some information about any librarian that
can handle SY85 data.

Thank in advance,
Miguel Rivera
miguelr@ihlpe.att.com

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: wangalex@mot.com (Alex Wang)
Subject: MQX-16 and WIN3.1 problems
Organization: rpg
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:08:36 GMT


I am resending this mail since I screwed up on the previous one.

I need some help in solving Windows3.1 & MQX-16,
compatibility problems. This is what happened.

Before I installed MQX-16:
I have Master Track Pro 4.5 and Passport's Transport
MIDI box for my 385-20DX pc. The Transport MIDI box
uses one of my COM port.  I have no problem of doing
sequencing or download SysEx from my Roland A-80 master
keyboard.

After I installed MQX-16:
I installed MQX-16, and get rid of Transport MIDI box.
Problems started to happen.
1) I used Window's MPU-401 driver for my Master Track
Pro since I would like to take the advantage of Window's 
multimedia capability.  While I was playing, some GHOST
notes will sound and it happens quite frequently. Then, I tried
to download my SysEx from my Roland A-80 and it works fine 
with Windows MPU-401 driver.
2) I found out if I use Master Track Pro's own MPU-401 driver,
then the GHOST sound would be gone, but my SysEx download
quits working.  It would receive about 25 buffers (total 89
buffers) from my Roland A-80 then suddenly kick my completely
out of Windows and back to DOS. I used MQX-16 Diagnostics tools
to see if it's interface problem. The interface has no problem to
receive my SysEx from Roland,,to squence, to playback
and no GHOST NOTES happens.

I am not sure if Window's MIDI mapper has anything to do with
it.  I don't know where in the configuration that goes wrong to 
cause all these probelms.


This is my system configuration:

Roland A-80 --> 386-20Mhz(MQX-16) --> Korg 03R/W
            out          out 

I use Master Track Pro 4.5 in Windows 3.1,and DOS 4.1
In windows, I set 'control panel-Device Driver' to use
MPU-401 driver.  There is a MIDI mapper ICON in the control
panel. I am not sure if I need to set anything up in there.
The MQX-16 has the decoding address set to 300 hex  and
use IRQ-5.

I appreciate any help or suggestions. I am clueless at this point.

---------------------
Alex Wang
Email: wangalex@ecs.comm.mot.com
From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: In search of... (DOS/MacOS) Public Domain CZ patch Editor/librarian
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:54:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Subject line says it all.

It doesn`t matter if its for DOS or for MacOS.
However, it has to also be a patch editor (not *JUST* a patch librarian).
I already have Altech`s CZ Librarian v3.0 (for the Mac).  However, it
doesn`t have any patch editing capabilities.

Something that would also generate random patches would be nice too.
Thanks in advance.

--tony
From: mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Windows MIDI pipes
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:25:09 GMT
Organization: Chorus systemes, St Quentin en Yvelines, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

First a quick(?) explanation:

Last night when playing with Windows demos of Cakewalk and
Cadenza I got the idea of transfering Cadenza's pretty demo
song into a midifile, for later listening. Since Cadenza has
a proprietary file format, its demo doesn't save files and
doesn't seem to use Windows clipboard when copying track
portions, the only way to proceed seemed to be by recording
from the MIDI out plug.

I have only one computer and no hardware sequencer, so I
strapped the MIDI output of my unique midi card to its MIDI in,
disabled any MIDI soft through and recorded to disk from MIDI
in with the Cakewalk demo, using the trick posted some time ago
on this forum.

This worked OK, timings were fine and the resulting midifile
was quite satisfactory. However having to touch MIDI wires was
very inconvenient since they are burried among several dozens
of other cables (stereo, TV, speakers, sound modules, my PC,
modem, mixer, etc... all wired together) and I don't have any
MIDI patchbay (and probably won't ever).

Now to the point:

I was wondering if there was some kind of MIDI pipe driver
which would loop back its output to its input, preferably
synchronously, without any hardware involved. It could be
used to connect two un-aware applications together, just like
Named Pipes or sockets do in other operating systems.

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From: Scott.E.Lawrence@dartmouth.edu (Scott E. Lawrence)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: Re: Cubase 2.0 for the Mac ???
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:54:43 GMT
 <D88-JWA.92Oct14185102@byse.nada.kth.se> 
 <1992Oct15.034926.27749@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>  
 <D88-JWA.92Oct15114439@byse.nada.kth.se>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Jon W.  Turning over the mouse seems like an easy solution but...I like
to use my mouse.  Also, midi controller wheels aren't perfect and can
send messages without you touching them(some other agent can move them
such as nudging the keyboard or having the bass turned up loud enough
to vibrate the wheel).  If I move the mouse at that instance, the same
crash tends to occur.  I've never had a positive experience with
sequencers.  They seem to hate me.

I also have to use midi manager with cubase because without it, the
tempo slows down when moving the mouse.  I don't know why.

I told them about both bugs but they just sent me 1.8.2 and that
crashed also.

On the new atari version you can rearrange the track columns so that
you can have the important ones showing without losing all of the
'parts' space.  The prg change column is important to me but it's quite
a way to the right.  I hope this feature is included in the update/new
version.  

I hope this new version release date actually sticks.  Printing would
be very helpful.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: jameson@cal.isac.ca (Kevin Jameson)
Subject: Re: K2000R followup
Reply-To: jameson@cal.isac.ca (Kevin Jameson)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 23:55:45 GMT

It seems very strange that the price of the K2000R is essentially the same
as the keyboard version.  Can anyone explain why?  Does it have more
features or something?  Surely the keys, controller wheels, and the box 
are worth more than the $100 price difference...

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: sepp@kiwi.intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Josef Schneeberger)
Subject: Re: K2000 failures
Cc: sepp
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:39:58 GMT
Organization: FG Intellektik, FB Informatik, TH Darmstadt (Germany)

I have my K2000 for 4 month now and in the last few weeks the problems became
more serious. I do not really know whether the reason of these problems is
overheating or if there is another source for them. My K2000 is a vanilla
system with no additional memory (yet) or other addons and with software
release 1.00. The failures appeared during normal operation and resulted in an
automatic reboot of the system; it then came up with a debugging screen and
not in the normal program mode. I tried some of the diagnostics offered with
no concrete hints to damaged units. Swiching the keyboard off and on again
brought me back into the normal operating mode. Two days ago, I had several
failures where the K2000 got stuck with some "notes on". Pressing the panic
button did not resolve the problem neither any of the buttons or keys yielded
a reaction. Then, finally, the system did not reboot any more -- only the
elumination of the LCD-display seems to work.

Anybody any comments?	Josef


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From: pauls@trsvax.tandy.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Help! @ questions on MIDI software.
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:31:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:trsvax:27300055:000:212
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!pauls    Oct 15 14:31:00 1992


Two questions:

1) How can I get a copy of MIDITOOLS by Kevin Weiner?? Any expereince on
using this program?

2) Any Windows 3.1 based Sound Canvas editor? I heard that Musicator GS for
Windows won't
run on 3.1.
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Trans-X ??
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:35:35 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Does anyone have other TransX or Languirand project albums ?
I'd be interested in swapping ... I have _Message on the Radio_
and _Minos_.

shiv@bnr.ca
From: skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Recommendations for studio monitors?
Summary: Recommendations for studio monitors?
Keywords: Recommendations for studio monitors?
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:18:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.skipa.718831083
Organization: University of Washington



I'm looking for recommendations for studio monitors/speakers.
I'm looking for good value... not necessarily the 'best'
system.  Someone awhile back mentioned something by Yamaha...
NS10????'s.  Anyway, thanks in advance for you help!

alberts@apl-em.apl.washington.edU
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:18:15 BRA
From:         Marcio Felipe <MAD01010@UFRJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Roland JX8P Patches ?

 Hello Again !

 I'm interested to get some JX8P patches across the
 internet network. Does someone know an anonymous ftp
 server where I can find them ?

 If someone has some patches, please send me E-Mail .



    Thanks ,

             Marcio Felipe


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From: ljnelson@unix.amherst.edu (Laird Nelson)
Subject: Re: Ensoniq EPS 16+ (w/ w/o/ Turbo)
Organization: Amherst College
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:06:04 GMT

Bloo Square (st10t@rosie.uh.edu) wrote:
      
      Could somebody please give a review on the Ensoniq EPS 16+
      Sampling workstation (WITH keyboard)??
      
      Could a person be a one-man-band with just this keyboard?
      
No, you need musical ability as well.

LAiRD

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From: laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: SGI Indigo disk-based Recorder/Editor
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:13:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: alien.1992Oct14.121304.1
Organization: Gull Island Consultants, Inc.


I read in a previous article (soory, not in front of me) about Tascam 
coming out with a Digital 8-track recorder.

There is another product that people in this newsgroup might want to be 
on the lookout for.  It's the Silicon Graphics Indigo workstation, running
a software package which turns the Indigo into a disk-based recorder/editor
machine that supposedly has all the goodies of an Otari ProDisk-464, but
without the price tag.  I'm still trying to track down the specs on it, and
if anybody is interested I'll post whatever I come up with here. 

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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: echols@crchh671.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (William Echols)
Subject: Re:      Re: Korg DSS1 keyboard/sampler/synthesizer
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 13:47:55 GMT

In article <SYNTH-L%92100706113636@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU>,         Andrea TONI <andrea@SIHP03.SI.ESTEC.ESA.NL> writes:
|> >
|> > First, about the memory expansion:
|> >
|> > Originally, the DSS-1 had a memory and SCSI controller upgrade available, but
|> > the upgrade was very complex and toasted too many DSS-1s. It was removed from
|> > production and is not available anywhere....
|> 
|> .. Too bad !!
|> 
|> > The DSM-1 is a much better choice to pick up used than a DSS-1. It has twice
|> > the memory(1mb vs 512kb), is multi-timbral, has eight individual outputs, and
|> > loads disks (high density) twice as fast. What it lacks is the programable
|> > digital delays, so synthesizer-type sounds aren't as rich sounding (unless you
|> > use outboard processors), but it's a more powerful sampler. Additionally, it
|> > can read DSS-1 sample disks, while the DSS-1 can't read DSM disks.
|> 
|> Well I'm sorry to say that there are two other missing features in the DSM-1
|> and (to me !) very important .. the VCF has no resonance !! it's a simple LPF !
|> and (even worst) there is a possibility to assign a sample to one OSC only !
|> Whereas on the DSS-1 you could assign two different sample to two separate
|> OSC (1 and 2).
|> Of course the DSM-1 has more memory, is rack mounted is faster in disk-loading
|> .. but as "generator of atmospheres" it's  less powerful then the DSS1.
|> The DSM-1 is, sadly a cannibalized version of the DSS-1 !!
|> 
|> > Hope this helps.
|> 
|> Thanks anyway !!
|> 
|> > Scott Kahn
|> 
|> Ciao
|> Andrea TONI

I have one of those rare upgraded DSS-1s and have had no problems with it.
I bought it for approx. $400.00 from a consignment store because the case 
had a piece missing out of one of the end pieces and it had some scratches
but besides that the monster works great.  I love it and would have a hard
time getting rid of it.  It appears that the mem. upgrade gives this thing
the ability to be upgraded to about 2mb.  That's what I calculated when I
opened the case and saw a upgrade board that had only 3 RAMS on it and after
checking the memory checking utility in the system function.  It also allows
for 7 scsi devices.  This upgrade also seems to allow the disk drive to access
disk faster which maybe because of the Turbo Format option that is included in 
the upgraded disk utility function.  In comparing it with an regular DSS-1
it loads about 2-3 times faster.  I found myself pulling my hair out waiting
for the regular DSS-1 to load and save info from and to disk.  I think that 
the effects of the thing are great and do make a dramatic difference compared
to my effectsless Casio Vz-1.  From what I have heard about the DSM I would 
trade DSS-1 for it eventhough the DSS-1 weighs a ton.  

"A finger is a terrible thing to waste, so why don't you pick your nose."
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From: bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Barry Sanders)
Subject: New PC Sound Cards = Samplers???
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:46:11 GMT

There is much hubbub to be overheard lately about several new 16-bit sound cards
for PC clones.  These include the Gravis Ultrasound, Pro Audio Spectrum, Sound
Blaster 16 and others. They are all between $125 and $200 on the street, and 
at least 2 of them (GUS and PAS) are capable of stereo sampling (to the HD???)
at 44.1kHz!!! (GUS requires a daughter board, not currently available)
Here's what I wanna know:  Does this mean that, in the near future, one will be
able to add Hard-Drive Virtual Multi-Track Recording and Mixdown from analog
audio sources (like synths and samplers) to their humble PC for a little over
$200?! (Including the cost of the software)
Last I heard, the cheapest route for such a facility was the Card-D digital 
audio card for about $800 (includes software).  There is also supposed to be a
new board, called the SONIA, for $500, that has a DSP on it (!!!)  And Ensoniq
is purported to be shipping a similar board in Feb '93 for $349 list!!
Add to this the fact that Atari just released the Falcon 030 with its internal
DSP 56001 and 8 channels of digital audio (internally) and stereo A-D,D-A for
a measly $799!!
It sounds to me as if I should consider dumping my current floppy-based, memory
limited EPS with its quirks and 13-bit A/D convertor.  Why not, when I can get
a powerful STEREO sampling card for my (existing) PC for well under $200!!
Of course, there's a question of software.  Any predictions?  Is there currently
any software to turn a Pro Audio Spectrum card into a 16-voice stereo sampler?
On Option Overload,
Barry Sanders 
bsanders@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
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