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From: amcalind@cs.strath.ac.uk (Anthony McAlinden IE91)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: 70mm prints, Dolby SR-D, and what "Spectral Recording" means.
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:09:53 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
Originator: amcalind@fleming-04

Since the release of "Far and Away", shot on the 65mm Panavision Super 70
format, I've seen a lot of discussion as to whether large-format shooting
will ever become even relatively popular again.

Although Panavision have developed a new, much lighter design of camera for
the format, the excuse trumped out for the economics of the format not
being viable are not in the shooting costs, since the negatives, as you
might expect, only cost roughly twice as much as 35mm film stock.

However, the theatrical prints are said to cost between ten and twelve times
as much. I wondered why this was, and then remembered that magnetic tape
soundtrack. Wouldn't it be much cheaper if the 70mm theatres equipped for
the purely optical Dolby SR-D system?

After a couple of years, the magnetic soundtracks would be no longer needed,
with all theatres SR-D equipped. Does anyone know how much it costs to
add SR-D? Since 70mm theatres generally have higher-spec audio equipment,
surely only the decoder would need to be added.

Interestingly, how common in the States these days are 70mm capable
theatres? Here in the UK, only the old cinemas, in the cities, have the
facility - certainly none of the multiplexes ever show 70mm prints, but
they usually have a couple of very large theatres which can accomodate
the widest aspect ratio anamorphic films. I expect that new projection
equipment could make these cinemas 70mm capable pretty quickly.

I have never actually seen a 70mm print, yet alone a 65mm originated film,
and I'm hoping that the cinema here in Glasgow gets a print when the
film is released in the UK next week.

On a completely different note - and as an answer to Ethan Solomita's
original question about Dolby Stereo SR "Spectral Recording". Dolby SR
is simply standard Dolby Stereo with a more powerful noise reduction
system, and therefore less hiss. When invented in the 70s, Dolby Cinema
Stereo used A-type noise reduction, which was then the recording studio
"state-of-the-art". Over the last few years, however, recording studios
have started using S-type noise reduction, and so the cinema analogue
system is simply bringing itself up-to-date.

Hope this clears things up.

					Tony
From: bender@oobleck (Duke of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: * What kind of VCR will do single frame recording?
Date: 24 Jul 1992 23:08:18 GMT
Organization: SPARK's R US
Distribution: usa
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tyager@maxx.UUCP (Tom Yager) writes:
: In article <1992Jul20.141045.1917@njitgw.njit.edu>, meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman) writes:
: > Howdy,
: > 	I'm looking for a VCR (preferably S-VHS for now) which will do
: > single frame recording. Perhaps in the format of:
: > 
: > Any suggestions? I'm not looking to spend $10,000 (AAAAhHHHH!)..more
: > like the $1000-$2000 price range. Thanx.

OK, I know this isn't going to be a fair comparison, but let me post it
anyway - a few months ago someone was selling a Panasonic Time-Lapse VTR; I
bought it for $200, and sure enough, I can make my very own 7-Eleven store
security-camera type videos with it.  But, it has a much more interesting
feature:  it can do a single field record whenever you close a set of
contacts on the back of the unit.  A great single-frame recorder, right? It's
built like a tank (must have cost someone a pretty penny when it was new),
and it takes 1/2" EIAJ tapes, which isn't a problem since I've found several
sources for these tapes.  Drawbacks?  It's only monochrome :-(.  On the
bright side, though, I can record a Lightwave (from the Toaster) animation
in B&W, see if I like it, then take my animation files to a place that has a
color single-frame deck and just have to do one pass, assuming that the
colors look OK.  Now, if I could only get it to record in color...

mike
From: djw@lcs.mit.edu (David J. Wetherall)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: computer VCR controller??
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:10:33 GMT
Reply-To: djw@lcs.mit.edu (David J. Wetherall)
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

Does anyone know of . . . a product that I could use to control a VCR from my workstation?


The VCR is a Sony S-VHS job, with Control-L and Control-S connectors, and the workstation is
either a Sparcstation or a Decstation 5000. I'd like to be able to write applications that let
you control the VCRs tuner and tape system. I'm with the TeleMedia, Networks & Systems group
at MIT LCS; we network video and do other digital things to it.

As well as the Control-L/Control-S possibilities, I'm wondering whether there is a product that
emulates an IR remote controller and attaches to a workstation via a serial line to be controlled
itself. Any clues? And any idea what (Sony's?) Local Application Control Bus System is?

Leads appreciated,

David Wetherall (djw@lcs.mit.edu)
From: ccheng@mips.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: S-video input and SVHS VCR's
Date: 29 Jul 1992 20:44:59 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ccheng@mips.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: wildcat.mips.com

In article <1992Jul29.174036.16222@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, vgupta@CS.Stanford.EDU (Vineet Gupta) writes:
|> I am planning to buy a VCR sometime soon. My TV set does not have
|> S-video inputs, so I would like to know if buying an SVHS VCR will
|> be of any use, and if the difference in image quality between an 
|> SVHS VCR and a VHS VCR will be sufficient to justify the difference
|> of $230-250 in price. The VCRs that I am considering are Mitsubishi
|> U55 and U65, and Sony SLV 585, and my TV is a Sony KV19TS20.
|> 
|> vineet
|> 
|> PS I will post a summary if there are sufficiently many responses.

I would like to ask nearly the same question, but with a  20" Sony TV with an S-VHS input.
I am considering the  Sony SLV 585 and the JVC HR4700. Thanks in advance.

Leslie.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: pflaum@world.std.com (Greg M Pflaum)
Subject: Re: Fisher-Price Camcorder...
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:49:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.001057.4935@samba.oit.unc.edu> Matt.Balara@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Matt Balara) writes:

	    I'm looking for the small camcorders made by Fisher-Price but
   discontinued a few years ago.  They record on hi-bias audio tapes and sold
   for around $100 when they were in stores.  I believe their official name
   is the Pixel 1000.  If anyone has one (actually I'd happily buy up to
   three) please email me to discuss prices and postage.  Make sure to email,
   I don't read any of the groups this is posted to.  Thank you.

I'm also very interested in finding one of these.  I once put a "wanted"
ad in a local (Boston) classifieds magazine, but got no response.

If anyone knows of a source, please write and I will summarize to 
rec.video (which I will also watch for posted responses).  If you 
want to sell one, please send me email and also specify if you 
want to be included in the summary posting.  (Potential buyers, 
please wait for the posting.)

Greg Pflaum
pflaum@world.std.com
From: marc@porsche944.Eng.Sun.COM (Marc)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Blue Lasers
Date: 30 Jul 1992 18:37:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: marc@porsche944.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: porsche944

In article 7970948@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM, rjn@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:

>red and IR lasers), but using laser in a projector is a formidable problem,
>due to the need to mechanically point it (or its light) accurately at 15 KHz
>(NTSC) 32 KHz (VGA, doubled NTSC) and HDTV.

Sorry Bob, but...

 Actually, the *real* problem is power. I worked on one of the first commericaly
producable laser projectors in the country. It was at a little known company in
Santa Clara, CA called (of all things) AD2000. It bombed, bad managment...

 In that application the unit used a 10Watt Argon-Ion water cooled laser for blue
and green, and a pumped dye laser for red. The horzontal scanning was achived using
A.O. modulators, and a Lincon Laser polygon mirror scanner. The vert. scanning was 
produced by a using a normal scanner (the name escapes me). It used 3 phase 220V power
to run (and what a power bill). The laser was rated to 10K hours before the tube 
needed to be replaced. They generally failed in 5-7K hours.

 At the time, we figured it was possable to make one for the home, but there was 
a big question as to the cost and matainance of such a unit. With the amount
of light loss through the optics, you would need diodes capable of producing 
30-50 mW of continous power to produce acceptable viewing brightness.

 When put aginst the cost of making such a *mechnical* display system, the home 
laser projector is still impratical when placed next to the common projection
television.

 And to be frank, the only real gain is in color reproduction. A laser projector 
can produce far better color than the limited reponse you get from conventional 
phosphers. Other than that, it's a neat toy, nothing more...

-Marc Schneider
 Sun Microsystem Computer Corp.

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: Apocalypse Version/Columbia House
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:26:41 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:00:21 GMT, bobl@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Bob Luffel) said:

bobl> The latest Columbia House brochure now lists a letterbox edition
bobl> of Apocalypse Now.  In the past, it was not listed as
bobl> letterboxed.  Does anyone know if this is the 'better' version I
bobl> have seen mentioned in previous discussions?  From what I
bobl> remember, the letterboxed version is superior to the
bobl> non-letterboxed edition in terms of quality (audio and video).

I just got this LD and it is awsome. Much, much better than the P&S.
The sound is very crisp and clear, and the colors stand out much
better on it. And it's LBX :) Also it has the original theatrical
ending, ending the movie on side 3, and side 4 is just the credits,
which were added later on for TV, and other commercial releases.
--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: chriss@sam.amgen.com (Chris Silvester)
Subject: Re: LD Player for under $300...& CLV/CAV question
Organization: Amgen
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:24:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.201952.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, freedmanm@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul21.235329.12655@amgen.com>, chriss@sam.amgen.com (Chris Silvester) writes:
> > Hi All.

> > Also, a salesman told me that most LD Players use CLV, some use CAV, but none
> > use both.  Is this true?  If so, which format should I be looking for?  The ad
> > does not specify which format this player is.  Any help would be greatly
> > appreciated.
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > 
> > Chris S.
> 
> 
> All laserdisc players, at least newer ones, use CLV and CAV without
> exception...  Maybe a cheaper one wont give you the special effects that you
> can get with CAV but, that is irrelevant.. someone should slap that
> salesman.....
> 						Mike.
> 

Consider him slapped...BTW, I picked up a Magnovox floor demo LD Player for
$199 last weekend at a DIFFERENT store.  So far so good.

Chris S.
From: bobali@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Theatrical Trailer ... what is it?
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:16:28 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I was just wondering:

What is a "Theatrical Trailer"?

I noticed that Dave's Video: The Laser Place in California has two Jaws LDs,
the Theatrical Trailer one is $5 more than the regular version...
is it worth $5?

Here is what it says in his catalog:

JAWS ..................................... $34.99
JAWS (digital) (Letterboxed) (Some music has been rescored/with original
     Theatrical Trailer) ................. $39.99

         - Tom N.

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Subject: Re: Bottom line on SVHS vs. VHS
Reply-To: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:23:09 GMT

 I have experimented with using VHS tapes on my SVHS player by making a
hole in the shell. (Check a real SVHS tape for exact size, it's near the back
of the tape in the notch) I have had the following results with it;

- On SP speeds almost all regular VHS tapes will record SVHS without dropouts.
  The picture quality is virtually identical to the standard SVHS (I use an SVHS
 Sony tape for comparison)

- On EP Dropouts will appear, on the whole the cheaper the tape the more
  dropouts. Fuji tapes seem to have less - depends on the batch. Picture 
  quality is not quite as good as the SVHS tape but still better than VHS.


 I recommend using a soldering iron to make the hole - no plactic flakes in the
cassette to worry about and it's quick. I no longer buy SVHS tapes since
everything I record is less than 2:45 - the max SP tape length.
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Rent Stuff For Flight?
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:53:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: spcvxb.1992Jul26.105357.3403
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <9207241657.aa24793@CCAC1.PICA.ARMY.MIL>, rdemarti@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Ralph DeMartino, CCAC-LAD) writes:
> ..HOWEVER beware!  American Airlines will not let you use these devices in
> ..flight.  They give an excuse they have not been tested (AA FORM T220 CPN
> ..5616354).  United Airlines has _no_ problem with you using these devices.
> ..Either American has exceptionally flaky aircraft in its fleet that require...
> 
> There can be a real interference problem with some equipment.  The biggest
> potential culprits are devices with RF recievers such as AM, FM, and TV 
> tuners.  You will see the RF problem by holding a radio near the antenna

I do not doubt the problem is real - my issue is I believe American's excuse is
phoney since other airlines allow the use of such things as portable VCR's.  If
these units really did cause a problem _all_ airlines would ban them.  BTW for
the record the SONY GV-8/200/300/500 video walkman have a source selector
switch which lets you completely turn off the TV part of the unit. 
From: darenm@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Daren McClearnon)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:20:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Is this a good price for a TR-81?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.video

Mail order on TR-81's cracked the $1000 barrier some time ago.  Since there
are newer models out now, I would expect TR-81's to come down further at 
the retail level.  Even though you may find mail order places in the low
$900's, you still may want to buy "from the local guy" for service, warranty,
exchange, negotiated discounts on accessories, and other reasons.

dBm.
From: idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Laser Disc players with digital frame store
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:12:54 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


Could someone please tell me how much a Laser Disc Player with 
digital frame store, for doing still frames of CLV discs, is.
I may be interested in getting one when I return to the US later
on this year.  Also does the digital frame store allow you to do
frame by frame advancing of CLV discs?

Ian
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: kaplanr@shearson.com (Roger Kaplan)
Subject: Someone want to sign me up for Columbia?
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:02:25 GMT


I want to sign up with the Columbia Laserdisc Club,
but I want to choose from a wider selection than is
contained in their ads for my initial purchase.

If someone will be kind enough to mail me the last
catalog or two, along with the "sign-up-a-friend-and-
get-a-free-disc" form, I will be more than happy
to afford you the opportunity of getting a free
disc.

Please email me if you're interested...

--
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Lehman Brothers       |  Those that think there are two types of people,
kaplanr@shearson.com  |  and those that know better."
 ..uunet!roses!kaplanr|    -- Tom Robbins, "Still Life with Woodpecker"
From: guyc@RIVERSIDE.SCRC.SYMBOLICS.COM (Guy A Caruthers)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: What's wrong with using tel. wire for speakers?
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:42:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet


    Date: 15 Jul 92 15:22:09 GMT
    From: elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!sdd.hp.com!hpscdc!hplextra!hpfcso!rjn@ames.arc.nasa.gov
      (Bob Niland)
    Subject: Re: What's wrong with using tel. wire for speakers?
    Message-ID: <7970930@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>

    In rec.video, fontana@cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Fontana) writes:

    > This may be more of a question for rec.audio, but I don't want to get
    > my butt flamed off by Monster cable-type people..

    Ignore Monster mongers.

    > Before I shell out $$ for spools of speaker wire, is there anything wrong
    > with using two conductor twisted solid copper telephone wire, of which I
    > have plenty?  I'm not using particularly expensive speakers.  I was just
    > wondering what kind of audio problems this would cause (I suspect the
    > twisting is a problem).  What makes speaker wire better?

    Twisting is not a problem; guage (diameter) is.  Telwire is typically 22 or
    24 guage.  Speaker wire typically needs to be at least 18 guage.  I never
    use smaller than 16, and for long runs, 14.

    Smaller guage has higher resistance.  It will definitely reduce the power
    delivered to your speakers, and depending on the impedance characteristics
    of the amp and speakers, may affect various frequencies differently.
    Usually, bass is the first to go.  On the other hand, a cheap 16 ohm speaker
    may not be affected at all.

    If you insist on using telwire, which is four conductor, use two pairs of
    conductors per speaker.

    Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
    Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
		    CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

    This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
    official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
    Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
    supplied without warranty of any kind.

I was told that the solid copper phone wire offered different characteristics 
than stranded wire and this caused high frequencies to lose definition, (sorry
if it sounds like I'm judging wine :-) ).  Don't know if this is true or not,
but I don't use monster cables.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: bobw@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bob Waffenschmidt)
Subject: Sony Parts in K.C.
Organization: Grumman Corporation
Distribution: rec.video
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:28:21 GMT

The Q&A page in the july VIDEO magazine says that I can buy the
documentation for LANC/Control-L from sopny parts of Kansas City.
Does anyone know their Phone #.  They gave the Part # but not the
phone #.

Thanks in advance & please reply directly to me.
From: rwittick@ibm.cl.msu.edu (Bob Wittick)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: LD Clubs : Quality?
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:13:46 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: MSU

In article <1992Jul22.162849.445@ge-dab.GE.COM>, vita@gloucester.dab.ge.com
(Mark Vita) wrote:

> Has anyone figured out what formula CH uses to determine S&H charges?
> 
According to their membership book, they charge $3.19 for the first
selection
and $1.99 for each additional selection.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 24 Jul 1992 14:20:01 CDT
From: Tom Ascher <U15310@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: HELP - VERTICAL BAND THROUGH TV?

Anyone have any idea what would cause a 3" wide vertical band that is
slightly lighter than surrounding areas appearing on my 32" tv?   I only
notice in very dark scenes, or when fading to black, or from black.

I think I only notice since I put a center speaker about 18" to the
right of tv, but when I remove the center speaker, even for a day or
two, the band doesn't go away.  Could I have permanently damaged the
tv in some way?  Or, might it not be related to the center speaker
at all?  It appears both when I'm feeding LD or VCR through tv,
or just normal broadcast.  Any suggestions?  Cures?
From: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Warning about the Videonics Titlemaker
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:47:23 GMT
Reply-To: goldberg@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Goldberg)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

There's been talk about this "gem" on the net many times.  I finally
got one a month ago, after a fairly long wait.  According to all the
talk by the manufacturer's sales reps and some early users, the Titlemaker
was supposed to be a bit of heaven on earth for a low price.  Well....

The first thing I noticed was that it green-shifted the imaged.  Even
looking at a standard color bar showed how much the colors were off.
When I checked things on my puilse cross monitor, I also noted that
it totally messed up the sync pulses  in the vertical interval.  It
took the rock-solid oputput of my AVE5 (essentially a tbc with efx)
and did this.  In standalone, the output of the Titlemaker is clean,
but the genlock really is bad.

I contact the dealer and ultimately sent it back to Videonics for repair.
It was explained to me that I'd have to cope with the green shift with
an upstream color corrector, but the sync problem was probably due to
a bad oscillator in the Titlemaker.  The unit was gone for about 2 weeks
and it camer back TOTALLY UNFIXED!!!  The enclosed note said "Unit within
spec.  No repair necessary."

At the Wedding Video Expo, I talked to several others who had the sync
problem.  They also got no help from Videonics.  I had a chance to vent
to the Videonics rep.  The publisher of Wedding Videography Today, Roy
Chapman, is also concerned about this problem and may publish a caveat.

I'd like to get some emails from others on this.  As a group, we have
power against this company.  I think they let quality control go down
the tubes.  I'm also miffed by the label on their stuff, "Made in USA,
Assembled in Mexico."

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From: jimbo@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Jim Winters)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Is there a safe rewinder?
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:51:59 GMT
Organization: Harris Computer Systems Division
In-reply-to: schuster@panix.com's message of 24 Jul 92 18:16:49 GMT

Michael> The Radio Shack VHS/beta rewinder, the one with the clear cover and
Michael> drop-in compartment in which you can either forward or rewind the tape
Michael> depending on direction, hans't damaged any tapes in my experience.

I have one, and like it.  However, don't open the cover before the
tape has finished winding, or else the reels may continue to spin a
little, and wind some of the tape onto the reels backwards.  The best
you can hope for then is a crease in the tape.

But as long as you always let it finish, you're ok.

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