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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: _Nerve Net_, by Brian Eno
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:29:47 GMT

mtrnka@jarthur.claremont.edu (Sven) writes:

[list of 11 remixes deleted]

>Wait, a sec.is my single only about 20 mins long with three remixes?
>Is the maxi-single only in England or something?

No. You got the UK CD5 that came out about two weks earlier than the US
one. The US version has much much more material, including some remixes
that are really ambient and very very different from the original track. 
But all this remix stuff isn't even really progressive and I don't even
think that Nerve Net is very much so - I'd excpect to see some talk of
it in alt.rave, rec.music.misc and other places. It's really mostly 
dance music, even if it is ENO. 

 - malcolm@wrs.com
From: v134pfzd@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (NADIR)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: new nin?
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:07:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <88658@netnews.upenn.edu>, jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot) writes...
>In article <moochie.716169739@camelot> moochie@camelot.bradley.edu (Melissa Koontz) writes:
>> 
>>   Anyone heard if any new nin is coming out?
> 
>Do you get the feeling that perhaps the FAQ should be posted daily now that
>school is back in session??? ;-)
> 
>Wrong newsgroup, Melissa...try alt.music.ALTERNATIVE
> 
>Kevin
> 
>-- 
>Kevin J. Jarnot (jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu)      | "The monkey-boys are evil - 
>Lead Programmer/Analyst/Keyboardist             | Lord Whorfin is supreme..."
>Univ. of Pennsylvania Language Analysis Center  |  
>3700 Market St, Suite 202  Phila, PA 19104      | 	    "Vita Non Jerk"


I think she was referring to vol. 28 of the diaries of Anais Nin set to music,
produced by Hal Willner.

dan(n)
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From: wombat@claris.com (Scott Lindsey)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: _Nerve Net_, by Brian Eno
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:29:24 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive
Organization: Spartacus Software

In article <malcolm.715982869@wrs.com>, malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
> 
> Brian Eno's Nerve Net
>  
> Tunestack:
> Fractal Zoom             6:24
> Wire Shock               5:27
> What Actually Happened?  4:41
> Pierre in Mist           3:47
> My Squelchy LIfe         4:02
> Juju Space Jazz          4:26
> The Roil, The Choke      5:00
> Ali Click                4:13
> Distributed Being        6:10
> Web                      6:21
> Web (Lascaux Mix)        9:44
> 
>   Appendix:
> 12. Decentre             3:26
>                         ------
>                         63:41
> 

Not to mention the CD single Fractal Zoom.  I think Eno has pulled a first here:
the world's longest CD single (sorry, "Maxi-Single").  It's 70+ minutes long
with the following cuts/mixes:

Fractal Zoom (Separate Time Edit)        4:13
Fractal Zoom (Mary's Birthday Edit)      3:49
Fractal Zoom (Up River Mix)              8:07
Fractal Zoom (Small Country)             6:58
The Roil, The Choke                      5:00
Fractal Zoom (Naive Mix I)               5:24
Fractal Zoom (Zaire Mix)                 6:14
Fractal Zoom (Naive Mix II)              5:55
Fractal Zoom (Landed Mix)                5:50
Fractal Zoom (Bucolic Mix)               4:42
Fractal Zoom (Separate Time Full Length) 6:24
Fractal Zoom (Mary's Birthday Mix)       7:07
                                        -----
                                        70:15

--
Scott Lindsey <wombat@claris.com>
From: brown@EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (James Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Amused To Death (Roger Waters)
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:40:06 GMT
Reply-To: brown@EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (James Brown)
Organization: Rank Xerox EuroPARC, Cambridge, UK


I give up. What's the backwards message at the start of 'Perfect Sense'?
Sampling it onto my home computer produced a very incoherent message - 
I could hear that it was self-referential, but not much more than that.
 
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: jost@walt.coyote.trw.com (Patrick Jost)
Subject: Who was/is in Brand X?
Reply-To: Patrick Jost <jost@wilbur.coyote.trw.com>
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:52:43 GMT

First, thanks for the recommendations...I've gone out and gotten a 
number of CDs. The problem is that they don't tell who plays on them...
I know some of the players:

	Percy Jones: 	bass
	Robin Lumley:	keyboards
	Morris Pert:	percussion
	John Goodsall:	guitar
	John Giblin:	bass
	Phil Collins:	drums


Who else? Don't they have 2 keyboard players and another guitar player?


Thanks again!




Patrick 


-- 
..suenos perdidos, dolor infinito, ya sin sentido, en el triste fluir, de los
llantos sumergidos, al silencio de un grito en el vacio... (J. L. Velasquez)

              Patrick Jost/jost@coyote.trw.com/(310) 812-2759
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: mikebo@i88.isc.com (Michael Borowiec)
Subject: Re: Pendragon & Eloy
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 05:22:48 GMT

In article <Bu4o7L.95B@world.std.com> kkirksey@world.std.com (Ken B Kirksey) writes:
>Just a couple of questions:
> 
>2) I have two Eloy CDs, Metromania & Performance, that I like alot.  I 
>   understand that their earlier sound was much different than what 
>   appears on these CDs.  Is there a definite dividing line between the
>   old and new sounds between releases?  
>   
I have been collecting Eloy for the past few months and have all but
_Time to Turn_ and _Performance_ ... I'm assuming _Performance_ is the
double live CD done after the release of _Ocean_??? Is this right or is
this another studio album I don't know about?

This is what I've collected so far and my take on Eloy's "periods":

_Inside_ and _Floating_
Two good albums, but production is a little weak compared to later stuff.
Words are more lyrics (sung) than poems (spoken). Several heavy sections
in here. I hear Tull and straight-ahead rock influences.

_Power and the Passion_ and _Dawn_
More production and the bands "identity" is forming. More imagery
is used and there are no really intense sections. I hear a few echos of
early period Genesis here.

_Ocean_, _Silent Cries and Mighty Echos_ and _Colours_
This is my favourite "period"... Production values are greatly improved
and much more poetry (spoken stuff) is present. Musicianship is at its
peak here as well as creativity. These are all must haves in my order:
_Ocean_, _Colours_ then _Silent Cries..._ (IMHO of course) I hear more
Genesis, Floyd and Alan Parsons influences.

_Planets_ and _Metromania_
These have their moments but are nowhere near as good as previous period.
Although there are a couple metallic riffs in Colours, there is much more
here and less creative spark. Ho hum IMHO...

_RA_ is the latest "Eloy" album but has none of the original members
save Frank Bornemann, who after all is the main driving force in Eloy.
It is really good stuff tho. A real nice surprise after the last two,
but fans of the older stuff may not like the hard rock and metal elements.

_Rarities_ is a compilation of single cuts and a couple unreleased
songs from the first "period". No surprises or gems present I'm afraid.

I do have holes in my collection and I'd like to hear from anyone who
can fill in the gaps. This is a super interesting band and I'm amazed
they never even tried to break in the States. I'm interested in reading
anything I can get hold of on them, which is nil in the US. Anyone?
- Mike

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From: craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (craig)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: NOVA
Summary: how many
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:30:27 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation

In article <malcolm.716019886@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:
>
>>Here's another question.
>
[yet more deletions]

Here's yet another question.

How many different bands have been named NOVA?

The ones that come to mind are the Italian NOVA, previously mentioned and
the Peru-derived version (Peru, the group, not the country). Any more?

Regards,

Craig Shipley
From: pvallado@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paolo Valladolid )
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: _Nerve Net_, by Brian Eno
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:44:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Any review/recommendation of the above album would be appreciated

Cheers,
Paolo
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From: laajarinne@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Oldfield/Pohjola confusion
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:56:53 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

> Please explain this....
> 
> In 1976 Pekka Pohjola made a record entitled "The mathematician's Air
> Display"
> A couple of years later Mike Oldfield recorded an album entitled 
> "The Consequences of Indecisions"
> ...and then Mike and Sally Oldfield collaborated on an album entitled
> Pekka Pohjola.
> 
> The real weird thing about this, is that these three records are
> identical. The song-titles on the latter two are altered, but the
> music is completely the same.
> Could someone please elaborate on this, and perhaps explain why this
> record has been made three times over a time span of 6 years???
> 
> thanks!
> 
  I have no idea, why, but the record is released with a Finnish name, too:
"Keesojen lehto". Could you perhaps help me and tell, where and how it is
available nowadays (The title is trivial for me, I would just like to get the
music.)?


  Jukka Laajarinne
  laajarinne@cc.Helsinki.fi
From: craigs@pyrdc.UUCP (craig)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: NOVA
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:24:46 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation

In article <14504@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
[stuff sent to /dev/null]
>
>Another good italian band with some excellent drumming is "Arti e Mesteri".
>The have two albums that I know of: Tilt, released in 1974, and 
>Giro Di Valzer Per Domani (1975).  I've heard the later is available on CD.
>I have "Giro.." on vinyl.  It's excellent.

"Giro" is also available on CD on the Italian "Vinyl Magic" label (weird name
for a CD label!). If I remember correctly, members of A+M went onto or came
from another great Italian Progressive band, Il Volo. The Japanese release
for Il Volo contains both of their LP's on one CD. Check 'em out.

Regards,

Craig Shipley
>
>-- 
>+==========================================================================+
>| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
>| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
>+==========================================================================+
From: borella@netcom.com (Mike Borella)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Galahad/Galadriel
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:10:30 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep10.120925.5853@cs.tulane.edu> piscine@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (henry bart) writes:
>> Speaking of british neo-progs, have you ever heard any Galahad. I've
>> heard good things about them, especially about _Nothing Is Written_.
>
>Hey Ken!
>I started this msg 'cause I first thought you meant Galadriel, which is a neo-
>prog band from Spain.
>

I heard Galahad once and I wasn't impressed.  It was ok - extremely
mediocre.  Then again, I'm not into very much neo, so take that for
what it's worth.  

Galadriel's latest is good, or at least its better than their first.
Overall they're too Yes-derivative for me to get into.  The vocalist
is a dead ringer for Anderson at times.

-Mike
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Manfred Mann and Bruce Springsteen?
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 17:14:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.181252.7228@meaddata.com> timk@meaddata.com (Tim Klein) writes:
>As an avid Springsteen hater, however, I have a pet theory (which I don't
>really believe):  MM actually despises Springsteen as much as I do, and
>remakes his songs just to prove that he can make good music out of trash.
>(Those of you who have never heard Bruce's monotone, irrhythmic versions
>of "Blinded By the Light" and "For You" are fortunate indeed.)  Perhaps

Yah, rrrright! MM versions are cute and catchy pop music, but if you
want feeling and the stuff of which great music is made, check out
just about anything on Bruce's first album, Greetings from Asbury
Park. You can get it cheap on CD, too. It's probably his best, I
think. Maybe doesn't grab you on first listen, but I now consider it
a rock classic. "Growin' Up" is a great tune of rebellion and
coming to terms with oneself.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: wcsanil@alfred.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: Re: Illusion (was Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues)
Keywords: renaissance rajah khan edit
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:41:01 GMT

I'm new to all this rennaisance stuff. I've picked up 6-7 Haslam
era LPs, but I've avoided the first two albums the "other" Rennaisance
did.

Can someone contrast how the first band sounded compared to the second
one? Would a Haslam nut like them?

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
From: bryguy@apple.com (bRYgUY K. Carter)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Sam Phillips - Heard of her?
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:21:49 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

To any and all,

Has anyone heard of Sam Phillips (formerly Leslie Phillips)?

Is she progressive or alternative rock?

Thanx for emailing me back direct @ bryguy@apple.com

bRYgUY K. Carter
"Life is rough.  Then you Fly or Fry." -- Oh no you don't...these words are
MINE!
email: bRYgUY@apple.com       ALINK: bRYgUY
Work : "Uh, bRY..."           Home : "Where is he now?"
Elsewhere: "Hey, you!"
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.music.alternative
From: jlesgold@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jacob Lesgold)
Subject: Re: Affordable Floors
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:02:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.141140.20439@news.acns.nwu.edu> homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka) writes:
>I was in Pittsburgh a few weeks ago and noticed that both "The Sounding" and
>"Drumming on the Walls" were both available on CD at Eide's Records and
>Comics in downtown Pittsburgh.  I don't have the phone number, but if you call
>for the phone nunmber through information under area code 412, you may be able
>to mail order through the store.

They're also at the Oasis in Oakland, along with a few other local things...

--
JJ Cool L  	Sable Scarab	  jlesgold@nwu.edu
"In her fairy-tale world she's a lost soul singing
 In a sad voice nobody hears
 She waits in her castle of make-believing
 For her white knight to appear"  --  Jethro Tull
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: kkirksey@world.std.com (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: Eloy
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:21:50 GMT

> I have been collecting Eloy for the past few months and have all but
> _Time to Turn_ and _Performance_ ... I'm assuming _Performance_ is
> the double live CD done after the release of _Ocean_??? Is this right
> or is this another studio album I don't know about?
 
Yep.  Performance is a studio album.  I believe it came out just prior
to Metromania, but I could be mistaken.
 
On the Eloy subject, I was flipping through the channels on the T.V. the
other day, and I caught the beginning of a movie called "Codename:Wildgeese."
It was a really cheezy movie, but on the opening credits it said "Music
by Eloy."  Does anyone know if there was a soundtrack album released with
the Eloy music?
 
+---------------------------+----------------------------------------------+
| Ken Kirksey               | Geeks at 20 paces?  I like your style.       |      
| kkirksey@world.std.com    |                                -Lobo         |

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From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues
Summary: I did.
Keywords: renaissance rajah khan edit
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:54:07 GMT
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <9c7y02Ub20wm01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.194234.19709@portal.vpharm.com> dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep3.150349.12660@ddsw1.mcs.com> jtl@ddsw1.MCS.COM 
>>(Joe Lynn) writes:
>>>
>>>The first two Annie Haslam-era Renaissance LPs have just been
>>>reissued in the US by One Way Records (distributed by Capitol/EMI
>>>Special Markets).
>
>I'm confused, I mean aren't both of these still available as a two-fer
>"In The Beginning" ? Where's "Turn of The Cards" and "Scheherezade" ?
>Where's the complete "Live at Carnegie Hall", Where's "Time Line" ?
>Where's the two Illusion albums (reformed original lineup) ?????

Yeah, yeah, YEAH!!!

[...]

>I don't think too many people missed
>the few minutes they cut out of "Rajah Khan" on Prologue either.

I did.

>peter (ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"

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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: is yesshows on cd?
Keywords: yes yesshows
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 15:58:47 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

horan@hemlock05.cray.com (Rick Horan) writes:

> 
> i have been looking for yesshows on cd. is it? if its not,
> does anyone know why? if it is, can you give me the catalog number.
> 
Yes it is, in Japan. The catalog number (if it helps) is AMCY-372~3. I
picked my copy up for $28, but usually the price ranges from $35 to $55,
as it's a double disc import.
 
The same goes for 9012Live - The Solos, only it's a single disc ($22)
 
--Don

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From: lenh@access.isc-br.com (Len Humbird)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: ELP concert in London next month, tickets?
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:53:55 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Technical Publications, ISC-Bunker Ramo

In article <HM78907.92Sep11221634@kaarne.cs.tut.fi>, hm78907@cs.tut.fi (Hannu Mikkola) writes:
> Also, if anyone know any other gigs by ELP in Europe within the next
> two months, please let me know!

The t-shirts on sale from the concert in Portland had a list of locations 
and dates. I recall seeing many, many German locations. Possibly close to 
one _dozen_ (no kidding). 

I would say check with your local ticket agencies on how to get out-of-
country tickets.

Len.
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Mike Borella, are you there?
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 23:01:58 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

Well, mail hasn't bounced, nor have I gotten a response, so...
 

Mike,
 
I would like to buy the Yesyears set if no one else has. Please send me a 
reply when you see this.
 
--Don

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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Sad news for Peter Hammill fans
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:20:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.132245.27860@bnr.ca> blindsay@bmerh9f5.bnr.ca (Brian  
Lindsay) writes:
> 
> One similar horror was purchasing Roxy Music's "Manifesto" only to
> find a discofied version of "Angel Eyes". 
> 

Ack!!! I thought it was a bad joke when it came out as a 12" single...

Gordon
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From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Colin Powell's Record (halting the pursuit prematurely)
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:53:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.013114.21422@anasaz> briand@anasaz (Brian Douglass) writes:
>In article <184ki4INNh02@agate.berkeley.edu> tedrick@triangle.Berkeley.EDU (Tom Tedrick) writes:
>>
>>Really, Bush has no business commanding battles (I'm speaking
>>of his personality characteristics and lack of military knowledge),
>
>After he flew 50 some combat missions, he has no military knowledge.
>
	This is a very silly argument to get into.  Hitler for one
	continually berated his generals and their staffs for never
	having been in the trenches (most of them were in the chateaux
	during WWI).

	AH claimed that he knew more of than his generals did because
	he had actually spent time in the trenches.  In terms of the
	ugly business end this is true, but he knew nothing of "the
	operational art" and other imperatives driving a campaign.
	As a result, when he took charge of an operation, everything
	went to ratshit.  The fact that all his orders were sent over
	the ENIGMA machine didn't help much either.

	Alec Chambers.
From: aj336@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Pat Weber)
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
Subject: Re: CALL OF THE QUR'AN TO THE PEOPLE OF THE BOOK
Date: 8 Sep 1992 15:45:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Ok Ok I've had enough. Please stop with this ... I will convert
already.
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Subject: Welcome to alt.text.dwb
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