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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 92 11:21:57 CST
From:         AA741CN <AA741CN@TCUAMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Memphis, TN
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Mary:

We stayed at the oldest and best known Hotel in the city, The Peabody.
It is a landmark type hotel, very old-fashioned, wood paneled,
pianist in the lobby, beautiful decor, tall ceilings in the rooms...
in other words, a place with tons of atmosphere. Their trademark are
the ducks which parade into the loby and into a fountain twice a day.
Quite a sight. The Sunday brunch there is very good and the hotel
is just a few minutes from Beale St....A great choice in our
opinion...

John
Ft. Worth
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From: stahl@ipi.uni-hannover.de (Roland Stahl)
Subject: Re:      Kauai,hawaii
Reply-To: stahl@ipi.uni-hannover.de
Organization: IPI University of Hannover
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:54:57 GMT

Mabe Kauai is nice, mabe it was the best, but actually you cannot go there.
We've been to Hawaii in october and planned to visit Kauai, but since Hurrican
Iniki came over in September, everything seems to be destroyed. We were told hotels
and campgrounds would not open until january 1993 (perhaps even april).
So, if want to go there, wait until summer 1993.



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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 92 13:16:00 EST
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Subject:      a week in Hawaii
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My family and I have always had a desire  to visit the Hawaii islands.
This summer looks like our best oppurtunity to go.  If anyone out
there can give me a few recommendations of where to stay and  what to
do.  We would be staying about a week or two.  I appreciate any response
I can get.   Thank you.
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Date: 6 Nov 92 19:25:50 GMT
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I often find that VERY CHEAP hotel soap has either too much or too little
lye in it.  If too little, the soap is greasy, if too much, it is harsh
and caustic.  This most often occurs in third world countries.  Charm is
charm, but I do need usable soap.  Dave

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941
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From:         nd26 <Nancy_R_DEUEL@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Wilderness trip?
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Josie writes:

>Hi:  Does anyone out there have a trip report regarding a wilderness trip
>they may have taken (whether it be camping, hiking, etc.)  My son is
>thinking about doing something and would love to hear first hand
>experiences, what equipment needed, what did you do etc.

Depending on his age, I would recommend checking out Outward Bound. They
have a huge variety of educational wilderness experiences in different
environments. Their new winter/spring catalog just came out. Post me
directly for the address--I don't have it right now. I know they have an 800
number--try calling information to get it if interested.


REGARDING BAHAMAS (lots of inquiries lately):

Avoid Nassau. It sucks.







Nancy
From: tmne@ARCHSCI.ARCH.SU.EDU.AU
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Subject: Re: TRIP TP HAWAII
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:30:29 GMT
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 ALSO, ANY INFO ON HOT SPOTS IN AUSTRALIA OR IRELAND PLEASE
> SEND SOMETHING.  THANK YOU!!!!!!

What time of year are you coming to Australia? For how long? Are you
planning to stay on the East Coast or go to WA or inland? What are you
interested in - cities/culture/shopping/etc or
nature/outback/bush/swimming/etc? How much do you want to spend? Will
you have a car? Australia is a big place but I am sure if you give a few
more details the Australians on the list will be happy to supply
information if they can. This question ranks up there with the "Any Info
on Europe" question of the other day :-)


 -- Tmne
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Tmne Sperling                      Voice: +61-2-692 4031
Key Centre of Design Quality       Fax:   +61-2-692 3031
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NSW 2006 Australia                 Time: GMT + 10 hours
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From:         "Mary K. Becker" <MKBECK01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Memphis, TN
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Acquisitions Assistant-Kornhauser Library
Phone: 588-5763
We (my musician husband and I) will be going to Memphis, TN
between Christmas & New Years (won't be there for either holiday, tho).
I was considering staying near the Beale Street district.  Is this
a good thing to do?  We'll mostly be doing the nightlife thing, I
hope, and would like to be close to that.  Any other suggestions?
Good bars (especially blues)?  Good restaurants?  Things to do
during the day - late afternoon? :)  Places to stay?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks!
Mary K. Becker
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From: MATTHEWS@VM1.YORKU.CA
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Subject: Re: Homossosa Springs (Manatees
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:33:55 GMT
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Hi
I haven't been to Homossosa Springs, though some of my friends have, however,
whenever we have gone to Florida as a group with these people the concensus has
always been that the best manatee diving is in the Crystal River.
( Use snorkel, since the sound from the regs spooks the manatees)
The river, which is a manatee refuge, often sees a hundred or more  manatees.
Every time we have gone we have seen lots of them, and had great fun.
The river also has a couple of easily divable caves just for some variety.
The people at the Crystal River dive shop are great, the Crystal River lodge
is a good place to stay - its right by the river and boat launch so its conv-
enient, and they really understand divers (their only serious rule seems to be
"no dive gear (or zodiacs(ask them about this one)) in the pool"
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 92 09:55:48 EDT
From:         Anthony Caruso <ACARUSO@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      San Antonio
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I requested some info on San Antonio last week.  Unfortunately, I
haven't received any response.  So, I'll try one more time...
Can someone recommend interesting places to visit (other than the
River Walk & Alamo), good restaruants that locals frequent, and
if there any brew pubs?

I will be there during the Thanksgiving Holiday.

Thanks,

Tony - ACARUSO@KENTVM
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 92 17:28:51 CYT
From:         "M.Oguz Tuncbilek" <S900485@EMUNIVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Tourism and Hotel Management schools in England..
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Hi ppl..:)
     Do you have any info. about Tourism and Hotel Management School,
colleges,universities in England....if you have pls mail me..:))


                                        M.Oguz Tuncbilek
                                        s900485@emunivm1
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 92 12:22:20 MST
From:         Roger <CARROLL@SCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Albuquerque/GC/Zion/Bryce
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>Just southwest of Flagstaff is Oak Creek Canyon and Sedona, possibly one
>of the most beautiful spots on earth.  Definitely worth a halfday side
>trip out of Flagstaff.  Or if you are leaving Flagstaff for San Diego or
>LA it is a viable route (which is how we found it in the first place).
>
>Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
>Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941

AND, if you get to Sedona, only a couple miles away is Jerome, an old mining
town, with just one winding street, that is build up the side of a mountain.
There is a great restaurant there called "The House of Joy" (used to be
a bordello years ago).

To get to Jerome from Sedona, you'll go through Cottonwood, which now has
a wonderful excursion ride on a train with a steam driven locomotive.  Very
popular.
                                                ---roger
From: LROWLAND@UGA.BITNET (Lucy Rowland)
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Subject: Re: San Antonio
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:28:14 GMT
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Other than the Alamo (which you might find a bit disappointing because
it's not nearly as large and flamboyant as John Wayne has led us to
believe) and the River Walk, there are only a couple of things that
I can remember about San Antonio. There must be somebody out there who
can provide better insight than I.

1. The "trolly" does a big loop through downtown--there are lots of
stops that are very obvious--and out to the Market. There is an excellent
Mexican restaurant at the Market--Margaritas? I think is the name.
Each of the "trolly" lines is color coded. The ride is an incredible
10 for as long as you want to ride. The "trolly" is really a small,
open bus. Supercheapo transportation--I was at a conference and my
hotel was way out at the Market (Marriott Courtyard) and the taxi
fares would have killed me otherwise.

2. Old San Antonio is across the street from the convention center
and a glitzy shopping center. It's mostly little boutiquey shops, but
it also has a couple of decent, not too expensive restaurants. I
really enjoyed the glassblower who has some very fine, inexpensive
miniatures. And a large all-glass carousel on display.

3. The German district. I didn't actually go on a tour of this area,
but I understand there are some lovely historic homes.

4. Lone Star Brewery. It has the weirdest museum I think I've ever
been in--"House of Horns" or something like that. Room upon room
of mounted heads, taxidermied bears, etc. It's pretty repulsive to me,
but the Texans seem to like it. Matter of taste, I guess.

Sorry I can't remember more

Lucy Rowland, Head
Science Collections and Branch Services
University of Georgia Libraries
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Subject: New South Wales North Coast
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:54:11 GMT
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We have about ten days and a limited budget to have fun over the
Christmas period. My boyfriend and I were planning on jumping in the car
and heading north (from Sydney) and seeing where we ended up. Has anyone
got any suggestions of interesting places to see in North Eastern New
South Wales and/or South Eastern Queensland? I don't think we will make
it as far as the Reef. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tmne

:-)
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 92 00:12:30 PST
From:         Dave Gomberg <GOMBERG@UCSFVM.BITNET>
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Damn right, Jose.  I have found first and second world countries can make
soap OK most of the time, but in China, India, Thailand and Tunisia I have
had some pretty strange soap.  If you have not used greasy soap and liked
it, I am not sure you are in much of a position to comment on whether or
not you would like it if you had some.  And if you don't know whether or
not you would like it, what are you asking?  Most non-third world soap is
made in factories by formula, some third world soap is made in very primitive
circumstances by folks just doing the best they can.  And sometimes the
best isn't very good.  Clear enough?   Dave

Dave Gomberg    GOMBERG@UCSFVM  Internet node UCSFVM.UCSF.EDU  (415)731-7793
Seven Gateview Court, San Francisco CA 94116-1941
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 92 12:23:03 +0800
From:         graham@OMNI.UCSB.EDU
Subject:      Alaska
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Thanks for all the help on the Australia trip.  Next, I'm planning to go to
Alaska anytime between February and June SOLELY to see the Northern Lights
(very short trip,4-5 days).  I don't care about weather, but I want to know
when and where they would be most visible.  I've heard everthing from dead
of winter(for the darkness and cold) to the middle of spring(for the solar
flares).  Help!!!
<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>:<>
        Kathleen H. Graham
        Office of Research
         Univeristy of California
       Santa Barbara, CA  93106
        PHONE:  (805)893-3807
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From:         "SUE THOMAS (602) 392-5147" <THOMAS@GWC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Thanks for hints re: GC/Bryce/Zion
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Rose,

I live in Arizona and will be at the Grand Canyon the week of November 22
through the 28th. We are staying on the rim Sunday. On Monday hiking down
to Phantom Ranch and hiking out on Tuesday. Staying again on the rim
Tuesday and Wednesday night and on Thursday backpacking across the Tonto
Plateau from Grandview to Indian Gardens on Sunday. I have six openings
for the inner basin trip if you are available and fit. It is a long haul
of thirty-five miles. Cold weather and beautiful scenery.

Sue Thomas
thomas@gwc
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Subject: Re: TRIP TO EUROPE 1993
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:25:07 GMT
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> As enthusiastic as I am about this
> trip, I can't help being a little apprehensive because of what I've read
> concerning the resurgence of xenophobia in Europe.

When travelling trough Europe, I found that people were most helpful and
friendly, especially if you praised their country. I also found that
learning how to say Thank you in various languages was useful. I can now
say thank you in Hungarian, Czech, Polish, Italian, French, German... I
can't say much else in these languages, but a Thank you and a smile goes
a long way.

> Also, does anyone have any
> information concerning hostels or other budget accommodations in Ireland
> (specifically Dublin)

I stayed in a large hostel near the main bus station in Dublin. I can't
remember the name but it is in Let's Go Britain and Ireland. Other
hostels that are good are the hostel outside of Dingle (as opposed to
the one in the centre of Dingle, Co Kerry and the one in Summertown (?)
near Kinsale in Co Cork. If you can afford it, I'd stay in B&B's as you
get to meet more locals that way. Ireland is a beautiful country and you
should enjoy yourself very much - I am very jealous!!! :-)

 -- Tmne
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University of Sydney               Internet: tmne@archsci.arch.su.oz.au
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 92 11:09:29 EST
From:         rgtaylor@UALR.EDU
Subject:      RE: Albuquerque/GC/Zion/Bryce
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Rose Mary,

While your in Albuquerque, ride the Tram up the Sandia Mountains, if your
not afraid of heights.  It was wonderful!!  There are signs off of I-40 that
direct you to the Tram.

Hope you enjoy your trip!

I LOVE New Mexico!!!

Ranette
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From:         "Aaron M. Gold" <AG9021@BROCK1P.BITNET>
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  Dave -

  Too little lye?

  Wow.

  I've been taking my soap for granted here in the US!  Perhaps now we have
a good example for the definition of a "good ol' American shower"!!

  :-)
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Subject: Sedona/Oak Creek Canyon
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:18:45 GMT
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>Did the newspaper also list the other 9 byways?  That should be of interest
>to many of us.
>                                        Lloyd

Unfortunately, it didn't.
                                      ---roger
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Oh, Debbie, you're so cute when you're mad!

Oh, Dave, you're so manly when you're condescending.

                                Howard
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From:         "Mary K. Becker" <MKBECK01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: San Antonio
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Acquisitions Assistant-Kornhauser Library
Phone: 588-5763
If I remember correctly, the person going to San Antonio is going over
Thanksgiving - you MIGHT not get your info from Texas Tourism in time
for your trip - BUT, order it anyway!  They send you a beautiful 648 (I
hink!) page book - lots of color photos, and it's pretty good reading :)
I did get mine (last year) in about 2 weeks, tho, so it might be worth
a shot.
Mary K.
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Date: 6 Nov 92 02:36:15 GMT
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  Kathleen, they play the same durn song EVERY time I am at FAO Schwartz!
Imagine working there!  Not only do you have to listen to that song over and
over again, but you have to wear that silly costume.  I bet Bellvue Mental
Hospital has a special wing just for former FAO Shwartz doorpeople!

  Welcome to our world...welcome to our world...welcome to our world of *BOOM*
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Subject: RE: Sedona/Oak Creek Canyon - Arizona
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:57:00 GMT
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Did the newspaper also list the other 9 byways?  That should be of interest
to many of us.
                                        Lloyd
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From:         leo richardson <UKI6@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Transportation around Europe
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>
> I'm going to Germany this December and plan to do some traveling
> around Europe during my stay.  I had orignally planned on just driving
> from place to place because I was told that France can be reached in
> just a few hours by car but it was recently suggested to me that I do
> my traveling by train.  The person who suggested this used to live
> just outside of Frankfurt and she said that driving in the winter is
> dangerous because everyone drives fast and the road conditions are
> often very slick.  Is this true?  Does anyone know the approximate
> difference in price between car vs train from Frankfrut to Paris?  Oh,
I can't tell you the exact price, but there are very cheap tickets for
Frankfurt--Paris--Frankfurt. I would prefer this to the full and
dangerous roads. There are several comfortable EuroCity trains on this
line.
>


regards

leo

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Subject:      jhp
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You're wrong.  One can find VERY CHEAP hotel soap anywhere, particularly
if you're staying in a cheap hotel.

Comment:  Why is it that every message that you post is negative?

                                Lloyd Dennington
                                University of Denver
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somebody please help me?

Thanks,
Heather
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I'm going to Germany this December and plan to do some traveling
around Europe during my stay.  I had orignally planned on just driving
from place to place because I was told that France can be reached in
just a few hours by car but it was recently suggested to me that I do
my traveling by train.  The person who suggested this used to live
just outside of Frankfurt and she said that driving in the winter is
dangerous because everyone drives fast and the road conditions are
often very slick.  Is this true?  Does anyone know the approximate
difference in price between car vs train from Frankfrut to Paris?  Oh,
one more thing... Where is the best place to go for New Years Eve?  I
always thought that Paris on New Years would be amazing but several
people have said that Pairs is sort of mellow and I should just stay
in Frankfurt.  This can't be true...can it?  I welcome any other
suggestions for things to do in Europe because I'll be there an entire
month and thus far have no specific plans.  I'm just sort of winging
it, but I don't want to miss anything!!!
                             Anyways...thanks in advance
                             Marny :)
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 92 18:22:54 TUR
From:         "BEN SULTENFUSS, NACOGDOCHES, TX" <F_SULTENFU@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: San Antonio
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Don't look for brew pubs in Texas.  They are illegal under our enlightened
booze laws.
There are lots and lots of good restraunts in San Antonio and in the
surrounding cities like New Braunfels (the New Braunfels Smoke House)
I like the river restraunt Casa Rio.
Also visit the Old Spanish Missions in the area.
Ben
INTERNET: F_SULTENFU@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
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