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From: manes@magpie.nycenet.edu (Steve Manes)
Subject: Re: Tha Bizness.
Organization: Manes and Associates, NYC
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:25:26 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
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David J. (dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:
: I've been working at this damn newspaper for three months now, and I've gotten
: little or no credit for what I've done from the people with whom I work.  If
: the real world is anything like that (and that's about how it looks), FUCK IT! 

If you're operating under the misimpression that things are any
different in the music biz, you've got a sad surprise coming.
Believe me, if you're looking for respect you're heading for the
wrong career.  The >business< of music is every bit as greedy and
self-centered as any other fast-buck enterprise, and the bucks flow
disproportionately to those who run the business, not the artists.
Read about the early lives of some of the great songwriters like
Carole King and Holland/Dozier/Holland and some of the legendary
musicians like Little Richard and Carl Perkins if you think you're
getting ripped off in the newspaper biz.

When I read stories like the one earlier tonight about the guy
who's got it all figured out on paper how he can follow his passion
for a professional music identity by renting out his basement and
working slave jobs for minimum wage, don't you think that music
business people already KNOW that many musicians would rather
play than eat and that's why we get treated the way we do?

-- 
Stephen Manes					   manes@magpie.nycenet.edu
Manes and Associates/Commontech-NoHo		   New York, NY, USA  =o&>o
From: treadway@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Regional Music Promoters
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:42:16 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

			REGIONAL MUSIC PROMOTERS (11/9/92)

Hello.  Alternative Media Alternative Music (AMAM) is a volunteer based non-
profit effort aimed at promoting both live and recorded music by local/indepen-
dent bands on a larger regional level.  (Note: "local" and "independent" are 
used to stress that this is not aimed at major acts, but we wouldn't refuse any
such inquiries either!)  Using newsgroups and e-mail to organize such a project
seems like a novel and inexpensive, yet dependable and practical, method:  No 
enormous long distance phone bills, no endless games of "telephone-tag", and 
easily written, stored, printed and replicated documentation.

We have already compiled directories of representatives, DJ's and bands across 
North America.  AMAM has also been involved in booking several shows in the 
Eastern Midwest.  We are now recruiting additional volunteers interested in 
finding out more about their regional music scene and this project.  If this 
sounds like you or someone you know, let us know. 

                                                        * ALTERNATIVE *
Have fun, Joel Treadway and Mark Gunderson              M  /\   |\  /|M
Alternative Media Alternative Music                     U /__\  | \/ |E
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From: nathanm@hpcvusd (Nathan K. Meyers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: circle-p symbol
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:19:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

>>>>>Circle-P indicates a copyright on a recording.  Circle-C indicates 
>>>>>copyright on the music and lyrics themselves.

>>>>And Circle-K?

>>>Seriously, though, a K with a circle means "Kosher", I think. (K-Pareve)

It's an uncopyrighted symbol meaning that the manufacturer claims the
food is kosher but hasn't obtained any sort of certification.

More meaningfully, Circle K is a chain of convenience stores much like
7-11.  I don't think they sell any music-related stuff, but they'll
probably rent you a video :-).

Nathan Meyers
nathanm@cv.hp.com
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From: cm007b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dr. Ski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: How to be DJ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:20:33 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


How 'bout getting the equipment before the actual day of the party, because
then you'll be able to become familiar with it.

Coming from 4 years experience, you might wanna find someone to help you
who has done this type of thing before.


Good Luck!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.marketplace,rec.music.makers.bass
From: seh003@acad.drake.edu
Subject: *** 5-STRING BASS FOR SALE ***
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:12:08 GMT


			*** 5-STRING BASS FOR SALE ***

KMD/Ovation GTX 5-string fretted bass.
2 J-style pickups, separate volume and tone controls for each
metallic blue finish
phenolic fingerboard
new condition
$325

Please send inquiries to Jon:  armstrj@cs.orst.edu

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From: cooper@kdx200.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.audio.pro
Subject: Yamaha DAT machines
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:17:50 GMT
Reply-To: cooper@kdx200.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I'm in the market for a Pro DAT machine for my studio.

I was looking at (drooling over) a Yamaha DAT last night.  Can someone
supply me with comments on this unit such as performance and what a 
fair price is to pay for one.  I'm also looking for alternatives to the
yamaha unit (Tascam etc...).

Thanks gang !!

jc


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: seh003@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Shipping guitars?
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:31:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.194552.21877@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gse9k@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans) writes:
> Hi everyone...I'm wondering what people have found to be the best
> way to ship a bass or a guitar in a hardshell case.  
> 
> For that matter, since the party I'm shipping it to is paying me 
> for it, what's the best way to do the whole transaction?  Obviously,
> the sender needs to know that the check is good, and the recipient 
> needs to know that he/she will actually be *getting* something for 
> their money.  Has anyone figured out a good way to do this?
> 
> 
> scott

Don't have much experience shipping guitars, but the Carvin I bought was
shipped in its case in a cardboard box by the maker of the case in another
cardboard box and shipped UPS.  It arrived in perfect shape.

As for the transactions, I've both sold and purchased equipment over the
network, and this is what I do:  

1)  Write up a contract specifying the terms of the purchase agreement,
monetary amount, item purchased, shipping instructions, etc.  (I can provide an
example if anyone's interested).

2)  The seller should sign and date the contract and mail/fax it to the
purchaser.

3)  The purchaser signs and dates the contract and returns it to the sender
with payment.  The purchaser should keep a copy of the contract signed by both
parties for their records.

4)  Upon receipt of payment and the contract signed by both parties, the seller
will ship the items.

Although this method doesn't prevent bad checks or broken equipment it will
provide legal recourse for failures to perform.

If others have suggestions on handling these transactions, I'd be interested.

-Stephen

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: samulski@esrican.uucp (Jungle-John)
Subject: Bassist,drummer wanted 
Organization: ESRI Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:45:16 GMT



Wanted:  Drummer, bass player for starting Toronto cover band.

If you fit the above description, and are interested in playing an assortment
of 60's,70's,80's and yes, 90's tunes (Approximate style: Cream/Steve Miller/
Eagles/Tragically Hip/Gary Moore) then send me some e-mail.  

We are currently doing a two-man electric band thing with small bookings 
and want to move to a larger sound.  Some originals may creep into the mix
as time goes on.

We are *not* career musicians, we just like to play, and if we make a few
bucks, that's even better.  Big hair not considered an asset.

Enthusiasm and dedication will be considered a viable sustitute for god-like
technical prowess.

John.
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From: gross@ssd.kodak.com (Dan Gross)
Subject: Fostex Erase head fried?
Originator: gross@cobra
Keywords: X-26 Don't erase...
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 18:12:32 GMT


	I borrowed a Fostex X-26 from one of my bandmates to play around
with, and discovered a problem: it doesn't erase the previous track when
you re-record something.  I immediately figure there's something wrong
with the erase head.  Would this be the place to start?  
	The owner didn't know about this problem because he loaned it to 
someone who then went and lost the power supply.  The owner hadn't bothered
getting (or making the person who borrowed it get) a new one, so I went out
to Radio Hack and got a 12-volt, 1A power supply.  Could the problem have
been caused by trying to use the wrong type of power supply?  (wrong voltage,
wrong polarity, A/C instead of D/C????)  Just wondering if someone's 
tinkering caused this....

	Any help would be appreciated.

						Thanks!
						--Dan Gross

PS: Please send E-mail replies to gross@eksignal.kodak.com, NOT to the
address in the header.  Thanks!

-- 
Dan Gross              		716-726-7831           gross@eksignal.kodak.com
Signal Processing Dept.		"I'll always be a wordman,
Eastman Kodak EP Bldg 3, 1 fl     better than a birdman." - J. D. Morrison
Rochester NY 14653-5908         Kodak doesn't even WANT my opinion....
From: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: LXP-5 Problems and Direct Box advice needed
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:15:33 GMT
Reply-To: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Colorado Springs CO


I'd guess that your DOD direct box is a passive unit (basically just a
transformer).  You might try an active direct box for more clarity.  There
are a bunch of good ones on the market.

Greg
From: simmons@ittc.wec.com (Garry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: ADAT Prices (was: TASCAM MS-16 FOR SALE)
Keywords: tascam ms-16, multitrack, recorder
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:21:19 GMT
Organization: Westinghouse Electric Corp., ITTC, Pgh. PA.

Since someone (Mark S.?) requested info on ADAT prices lower than $3200, I'd 
thought I'd supply them. Pianos 'n' Stuff in Blawnox, PA (just outside Pittsburgh)
is (and has been) selling ADATs for $2995 plus tax. (412) 828 - 1003. Ask for
Huey. Huey sez: Preliminary selling price on Tascam DA-88 $3333 (not available yet).

Regarding the MS-16: Its big, tape is expensive, and I'm no fan of dbx. The tapes
I've recorded on a Tascam MSR-16 with dbx just don't have the tranparency and 
punch the straight to DAT tapes do. dbx does a fine job of lowering noise with
the added bump at 125Hz on playback and that hard to pin down transparency thing.

Garry Simmons
simmons@ittc.wec.com
From: frankc@faatcrl (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Looking for Cakewalk FTP sites
Date: 17 Nov 1992 18:27:05 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: offserv2.faa.gov
Summary: looking for FTP site having cakewalk sequences.
Keywords: ftp sequences

I'm looking for Jazz & Standards Cakewalk sequence files.  Anyone
know of any FTP sites I could check?


 
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From: wang@hp4at.eunet.co.at (Wang)
Subject: Mailorderprice for Tascam MM-1 Mixer?
Organization: EUnet EDV-Dienstleistungsgesellschaft m.b.H
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:52:11 GMT

Sorry for reposting, the first posting probalbly went down the drain :-(

Can somebody tell me the (best) mailorderprice for the TASCAM MM-1
19" Rackmixer. I got an offer from Caruso Music to get it for about $817,-.
I think that's too much!

Any comments?

Thanks,
michael

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E-MAIL: mza@zwerg.wang.co.at                       | "Proof your chances,
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From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: LXP-5 Problems and Direct Box advice needed
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:12:42 GMT

In article <392@ittc.wec.com> simmons@ittc.wec.com (Garry Simmons) writes:

> Also, anyone have advice on high quality direct boxes for recording?
> I've heard good things about the Countryman, but what about other
> (maybe less expensive) options (Symetrix, Whirlwind, Boss?). I
> will be primarily using it for recording bass guitar. My current
> direct box (DOD 260) is probably a real cheap unit, and I'm try to get
> more clarity and punch on my bass tracks. 

The direct box shouldn't add punch, but it should pass the signal
with clarity.  For adding punch, signal processing such as compression
would be the ticket.  A bass-specific preamp would help greatly.

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: whittington@fixsoa.enet.dec.com (Phantom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: DSS-1   Disk problem
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:22:01 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Will  the person who posted a fix for his slow accessing disk problem kindly
mail me the solution you chose? I have a very slow  3 1/2 inch disk drive.

Ed-
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: gross@ssd.kodak.com (Dan Gross)
Subject: Performance Contracts
Originator: gross@cobra
Keywords: Generic, fill-in-the-blanks contract...
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 16:36:51 GMT


	Anybody have a general contract they use for playing out that 
they would be willing to share?  The band I'm currently involved with will
be playing out soon, and knowing the joy of verbal contracts, I want to 
make sure we have a decent (professional-style) written contract that will
keep both sides (especially the band's side) from being hosed.  
	Please send E-mail responses to gross@eksignal.kodak.com (NOT to the
address in the header).  I'll post a summary if there's interest.
Thanks in advance!

					--Dan Gross
					gross@eksignal.kodak.com


-- 
Dan Gross              		716-726-7831           gross@eksignal.kodak.com
Signal Processing Dept.		"I'll always be a wordman,
Eastman Kodak EP Bldg 3, 1 fl     better than a birdman." - J. D. Morrison
Rochester NY 14653-5908         Kodak doesn't even WANT my opinion....
From: gholsonj@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Music Theory Software
Date: 16 Nov 92 06:26:52 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

I am looking for music theory software for the ibm. Send sources or adresses
for freeware, shareware and commercial venfors. Thanks...Gholson
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.gnr
From: s36445d@saha.hut.fi (Petteretteri Kurki)
Subject: Re: Sounding like Slash
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:46:57 GMT


you> Not being a guitar player, this sounds forumlaic to me. Is it really that
you> easy to sound like Slash? Mind you, I don't think Slash is the best guitar
you> player in the world or anything. I just *really* like his style.

	Yeah, me too. And to me it really doesn't sound like he's using only
	pentatonic scales. I like Slash's style because it's very melodic.
	Just listen his solos in G'N R's ballads and you'll have to admit this 
        guy's a musician. This is "playing by feel" -stuff... And what's 
	really cookin': the sloppiness he has. It's not that he didn't care
	but the way he feels he should express himsef. 


you> But Slash kinda melts me in the same way that Santana does. Any knowledgable
you> guitar players or music theorists out there care to try to explain this to a
you> non-music reading, scale brain dead drummer?

	I can't "explain" it. What sounds good to you may make the others puke..
	And if you write Slash's notes down, you most likely strip all the
	essential things off them. Nor can music theory explain it. Slash just
	picks out the notes you and I like in the right order... 8)

you> Alex Alexander           |    The thoughts expressed here are my own, 
you> alexa@county.lmt.mn.org  |      own life; vicarious existence is a


	Petteri Kurki 	A student of Helsinki University of Technology
	s36445d@saha.hut.fi
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From: fullerto@mostaccioli.cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Ibanez Jazz Guitars - How Much? How Good?
Keywords: guitar jazz
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:59:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Nov16.235912.16952
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

In article <1e8p43INN14m@faatcrl.Faa.Gov> frankc@faatcrl (Frank Coffman) writes:
>
>I've seen a used Ibanez 'Jazz Guitar' for sale recently, and was
>wondering if anyone on the net could offer an opinion on the 
>quality and going prices on these models.  I don't know
>the model of this particular model, but I once knew a fellow
>who had an L-5 copy that was pretty nice.
>

	I tried to e-mail, but it bounced back.

	Having played the George Benson and the artist, I would take those 
over an L5 or a 335 in a heartbeat. The artist is about $600, and the last
George Benson I saw was about a grand.

	Tim
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon)
Subject: Re: Which Fender?
Organization: NIKHEFK
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:37:39 GMT

math1rb@elroy.uh.edu (92F07486) writes:

Lots of good stuff, particularly advice to PLAY LOTS of different
guitars and also to run it thru a clean amp (tell the salesman
to let you set up the amp ...)

I have to put in a plug for the Mexican Stratocasters.
I've played one (yes only one) but it was really nice.
The materials for these seem to be way better than for the
Japanese Fenders or for the Squiers.

However you may want to check around for a used Strat.  This
is what I did, and I am glad.  I got a 1990 American Standard
Sunburst Stratocaster for $400 with case.  The Mexican
Stratocaster suggested retail (without case I think) is
$380.  Plus with a used guitar, you will be able to see how
well it has held up which will tell you something about
the workmanship.  Used = look in the paper or your local
"swap and trade" weekly magazine.  Not used in a guitar
shop although maybe you could find something reasonable
there.

Finally - don't know if these are still available in the States,
but a company named Tokai makes a REAL nice Strat copy,
so nice that (it was at least rumored) Fender sued their
pants off.  Note that Fender has not done this to many other
Strat-clone makers.  I've seen 'em in Holland for about
Fl. 800- which is about $500.

Good luck and let your ears/fingers be your guide.
One more thing - if you're a beginner, you might want to
take an experienced person with you (not to tell you what to
buy, but to tell you what to watch for.)  I just walked
up to one of my favorite bands' guitar players and asked
if he'd go guitar shopping with me - no problem!

					JT
From: ak845@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ward C. Akins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Question about recording a guitar track...
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:38:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Personally I prefer to mic my cabinet, one close and one one far
to give it that room abiance.  The problem with running direct is
you don't get anywhere near the same the tone as a speaker, but,
if you have to: you can use the line-out from your amp (NOT the
ext spkr out!) if you have one or you could invest in something
like the SansAmp (my friend swears by these) which is a DI box
something like Sholtz's PowerSoak or the Hughes & Kettner RedBox
Cabinet Simulator.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo)
Subject: Re: Gibson L6-S Tone Switch Wiring??
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.guitar
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering, Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:17:58 GMT

In article <lggg6pINN6pp@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, bwana@daktari.Corp.Sun.COM
(Don Finch) wrote:
> 
> Greetings, pickers! (My first post to this group.)
>   
> Does anyone know or have the wiring diagram for a 1975 Gibson L6-S 6-position
> tone switch?  Many years ago I swapped out the pickups on it (DiMarzios) and
> neglected to draw a diagram.  I have since tried lots of combinations of 
> wiring on it but can't seem to reproduce the original tone variations that
> were available.   
> 
> Even with its less than perfect wiring, I can do lots with this axe, but I'd
> sure like to have the switch right.
> 

Years ago I replaced the passive volume/tone/switch circuit in my L6-S with
an
active preamp.  In the process, I carefully saved all original parts and
also 
drew a diagram before I removed them.  I'm sure I have it somewhere and
I'll 
send what I have when I find it.  Unfortunately, the previous owner had
replaced
the bridge pickup with a DiMarzio, so this part of the wiring might be
wrong.

This brings me to my own questions to the net.  Does anyone know of a good
replacement bridge pickup for the L6-S?  I too would like to restore my
guitar to give the original tone variations.  Is it worth it?

Marcelino Bernardo
mbernar@erenj.com