From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: RFV: Bruckner Re: The BEST finale!
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:35:52 GMT
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In article <JWA.92Dec22230634@vipunen.hut.fi> jwa@vipunen.hut.fi (Jyrki J Wahlstedt) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.154744.3519@walter.bellcore.com> broken@venison.bae.bellcore.com (Tony Brokenborough) writes:
>
>>99% of the people on the net HATE's Bruckner's music.

>  Ok! Let's call for a vote. I give one vote for Bruckner ...

And another vote for Bruckner here.  We know of one vote against (Brokenbo-
rough's), so we need another 197 votes against to show that Brokenborough's
statistics are correct.  Or Brokenborough could just post the Bruckner sur-
vey that produced his figure.

>>Even his contempories and the critics of his day hated his music.

J.S. Bach's music was thought poorly of by his contemporaries.  That does
not cause 99% of the netters to hate his music now.  Can we assume, however,
that Brokenborough hates J.S. Bach's music for that reason?

>> Whenever his music was critisized,

criticized

>>he changed it!  That's why there are numerous 'originals' to many of his
>>works. (The 'Bruckner problem'! ) [foam removed]

It may come as a complete shock to Brokenborough but most (all?) writers of
opera make adjustments to their music here and there as a result of first-
night reactions by critics.  This also does not cause 99% of the netters to
hate music by Verdi, Wagner, Mozart, Berlioz, and all the rest.  Composers of
other forms of music are also known to have been influenced by critics of
first performances.  This does not cause 99% of the netters to hate music by
non-opera-composers.  However, can we assume that Brokenborough hates all
these composers for this reason?

>>I guess you haven't read the article posted here which talks about one 
>>performer getting PHYSICALLY ILL after playing some of Bruckners junk !!! 

So?  I have gotten physically ill after playing Chopin and Mendelssohn, but I
can assure you I attributed each, at the time, to more likely causes such as
unwise eating or catching the flu.  I'm not quite silly enough to conclude,
as Brokenborough does above wrt Bruckner, that Chopin or Mendelssohn made me
ill.  Only two groups of people on this planet have never become ill after
playing music:  people who never get sick, and people who never play music.
This simple fact does not cause 99% of the netters to hate all music by all
composers.  However, can we assume that Brokenborough hates all music by all
composers?  It is more probable than to assume that Brokenborough never gets
sick (although it's beginning to look very probable that he never listens to
(or plays) music).

And if Brokenborough never listens to (or plays) music, it begins to be a
puzzle why he reads or posts to rec.music.classical, and why he has an op-
inion on any composer at all, let alone has such an antipathy for one speci-
fic composer out of all the thousands of composers whose music he has never
heard.


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