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From: saal@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (samuel.saal)
Subject: Hebrew school (was Re: O-C-R debate)
Organization: NetNews Readers Anonymous
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:11:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.192739.22976@umbc3.umbc.edu>
shimoff@umbc4.umbc.edu (Eliot Shimoff) writes:

>The same argument might be made against afternoon Hebrew schools.
>If the only form of J. education was yeshivot, then most J. kids
>would attend, and get solid J. educations.  But now (in the US), 
>J. parents can meet their "responsibilities" by sending their kids
>for a few hours a week -- and most J. kids get very little.

There exist two problems (at least) with afternoon school:

1) Kids going to them look to public school friends who do more fun
things after school, are jealous, and are thus poorly motivated to
learn.

2) Because most get little more than Hebrew school as a Jewish education
(and the majority of them end at bar/bat mitzvah), life long memory of
Judaism and Jewish education tends to be unsophisticated  and/or
childlike.

While I _have_ met Hebrew schoold "graduates" who have grown Jewishly,
there is enough trouble getting kids interested in current schooling,
(public and after school), let alone in future education.
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From: er@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Elie Rosenfeld)
Subject: Re: Meat on the first 10 days of Av.
Reply-To: er@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Elie Rosenfeld)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:17:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.172937.25839@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, friedenb@egr.msu.edu ( Gedaliah Friedenberg ) writes:
|> 
|> I have a few questions about eating meat between Rosh Chodesh Av and Tisha
|> B'Av:
|> 
|> When is the last time that I can have meat?  

Thursday evening before sunset.

|> Is there exception for eating meat on Shabbat during this period?  

Yes.  There are no restrictions of meat/wine on Shabbos.  (Thank G-d!  I'd never
survive the 9 days otherwise!)  In fact, you can even eat meat to your heart's 
content on Shabbos erev Tisha B'Av, right up until sunset.  There is no "last 
meal" of bread and/or eggs with ashes when Tisha B'Av is on Sunday.

|> Can I eat pareve foods which are cooked in fleishig pots but contain
|> no meat?

Yes.  And eating such foods, all year round, does not make you "fleishig" in
terms of waiting to eat milchigs, although milchigs shouldn't be eaten in the
same meal.
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From: david@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (David Kaufmann)
Subject: Re: What is Jewish religion? (long...)
Organization: E.E. Dept., Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 14:40:16 GMT
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In article <1992Jul24.175441.24379@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jeybbu@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>I would like to disagree with David Kaufmann that labels are 
>meaningless.  
>
>First of all, without labels there would be no way to be sure of
>the heksher on what we eat
>
The reference was to the use of labels as definitives. Any word, as
Len Moskowitz and I can tell you, is subject to connotation as well as
denotation, and it's quite easy to "score points" by deliberately
confusing one with the other.

Labeling a Jew as O, C, R or even Modern Orthodox serves no useful
purpose within a discussion of Jewish observance and thought, since
the labels themselves neither explain nor justify.

Consider: what do you "label" a Jewish woman who keeps mikveh, lights
candles Friday nights, drives on Shabbos and doesn't keep kosher?

Or a Jewish man who puts on tefillin every day but eats on Yom Kippur?

To "label" either is to do them a disservice.


David Kaufmann
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From: NMILLER@vax1.trincoll.edu
Subject: Re: Discovery
Reply-To: <NMILLER@vax1.trincoll.edu>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:31:53 GMT


Bravo, Hayim Hendeles!  You've done exactly what I predicted you'd
do: not answer a single question put to you. 

Instead, you offer us an excerpt from an introduction to Witztum's
book the authors of which say that the author's thesis has not yet
been established decisively.  More work is needed, they say.  

And what do you say?

>> For more information, contact Aish Hatorah.

Now if responsible and serious investigators are themselves uncertain
about the significance of a line of work (though they support as I do
continued research in the area) how can anyone other than a two-headed
booby expect to learn something from the irresponsible and non-serious
entertainers and tub-thumbing evangelists known as Aish Hatorah?  

Then this:

>> The implications of these studies, assuming them to be proven correct,
>> is so enormous that it will be absolutely devastating to some indiduals.
>> This, I believe, is the reason for their vicious reaction, not to
>> mention scorn and ridicule.

I assume you include me among the happy few.  But you're totally mistaken.
Nothing would make me happier than the finding that Witztum is right.  For
all of the reasons already stated.  My criticism is rather narrowly focussed:
I despise flimflam and knavery and that's what I see as the issue.

And you still haven't told us who the world's greatest statistician is.

Norman Miller
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From: jerrys@pwcs.stpaul.gov (Jerry Segal)
Subject: Meaning of O U
Organization: City of Saint Paul Public Works
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:11:56 GMT

I would like to know the differences and sources of the kosher signs on food
packages.  I am referring to the K and the U within an O.  Would like to have
the explanation and the source of each of the labels.  Is one Glatt kosher and
the other not?  Or what?
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From: baker@ROBOCOP.NYU.EDU (Jonathan Baker)
Subject: Re: Discovery
Organization: Courant Institute, New York University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:39:32 GMT

> Take a short (6-10 letters) Hebrew word.

6-10 letters is pretty *long* as Hebrew words go, particularly Biblical
Hebrew.  Remember, Hebrew has no vowels in ordinary text.  
         Rmmbr, Hbrw hs no vwls in rdnry txt.  
(the preceding sentence if it had been written in Hebrew characters, 
more or less.  Actually, better might be:  (translated)
         Zcr, 'vrit ain lh nkudot btkst yomyomi.

 4-6 letters might be a better average length, 2-3 a short word.
The most common words the code-ists look for are 4-5 letters, such as
TORH, YH-VH, SOAH, RMBM, TRYG, etc. (Torah, G-d, Holocaust, Maimonides,
613).

Just trying to help keep your test useful.

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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: 5% bugs in ketchup!
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:37:57 GMT

In <memo.539907@cix.compulink.co.uk> stephenp@cix.compulink.co.uk (Stephen Phillips) writes:

>Are not bugs considered "Nosein Ta'am Lifgam" [give off a spoilt
>taste]?

For all we know, they may taste good.

Or maybe they taste like chicken ...
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From: faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin)
Subject: Re: Anti-Orthodoxy (was Re: O-C-R debate)
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:45:42 GMT

On 28 Jul 92 18:26:33 GMT, gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (User - Don Gertler) said:
> If the official Reform position is that Halakha (Torah, Talmud, etc.)
> is not binding on all Jews...

I don't think Reform says "all Jews". The movement can only address Reform
Jews.

Daniel
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From: aa324@yfn.ysu.edu (Marlene Miller)
Subject: Re: What is Jewish religion? (long...)
Reply-To: <aa324@yfn.ysu.edu (Marlene Miller)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:05:53 GMT




Joel Goldberg writes:

>In article <1992Jul22.213610.23796@cbfsb.cb.att.com> hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz) writes:
>>Now lets drop the cannibal analogy as it does not really apply and
>>is not leading anywhere.
>    Is it eating at you?

Hehhehheh... couldn't stiffle a chortle over that one   8-)

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From: baker@ROBOCOP.NYU.EDU (Jonathan Baker)
Subject: Re: society as the basis for religion
Organization: Courant Institute, New York University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:56:12 GMT

Re: Modern O becoming Traditional Judaism:

From what I understand, Traditional Judaism is a new small group of left-
leaning O and right-leaning C getting together.  Most of what was called
Modern O now calls itself Centrist O, as a reaction to the scorn heaped 
upon "Modern"-ism by "Ultra"-O's.  Lincoln Square, Kehilath Jeshurun,
Jewish Center, (among Manhattan synagogues), and the rest of the YU-affiliated
crowd and Soloveitchik followers now seem to consider themselves "Centrist".

Traditionals, Moderns, Ultras, Centrists, how many were going to St. Ives?

I really don't see what great differences there are.  We all follow the same
Shulchan Aruch as best we can, with the possible exception of the Lubavitchers,
who follow Shulchan Aruch HaRav.  The big differences seem to be in dress and
in isolation from the rest of the world, as well as styles of davening (decorum
vs. shtibl-style vs. old-line Chassidic screaming) -- political rather than
halachic.  

     In fact, from what I've read, much of the old antagonism between
mitnagdim & hasidim was not over practice, but over money -- the hasidim
were stealing members from the mainstream/mitnagdish synagogues and community
organizations.  The denigration of the other's practices was largely a cover.
(See "Essential Papers in Hasidism", ed. Gershon Hundert, NYU Press, 1991)

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: What is Jewish religion? (long...)
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:35:34 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul24.143106.3549@cbfsb.cb.att.com> hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz) writes:
>
>There are a number of doctors who will get a mohel in for a
>circumcision (even of nonJews) as an operation because of their
>expertise (if only based on sheer numbers).

Or in my family's case, the mohel was also an MD.  No problem there...
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From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: What is Jewish religion? (long...)
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:13:45 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: choy@skorpio.usask.ca (I am a terminator.)

In article <1992Jul22.031658.8291@access.usask.ca>, choy@skorpio (I am a terminator.) writes:
>Why must a Jew practice Jewish principles? You wouldn't demand a person
>born in a tribe of cannibals to practice cannibal principles would you?

No, because there's something wrong with cannibalism.  You're not that
stupid that you can't figure out the answer to your own question, are you?
-- 
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: society as the basis for religion (was Re: What is Jewish religion?)
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:46:29 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <LERNER.92Jul21174434@division.cs.columbia.edu> lerner@cs.columbia.edu (Michah Lerner) writes:
>Well, here we are again.  The term "ultra-orthodox" is horrible and derogatory,
>as if it says "excessively".  How about just "Orthodox"?  Is there a better
>term?

Well, there are definitely different levels of observance withing the
Orthodox community.  For instance, the Chasiddim will only wear plain
garments (such as those worn my the upper-class in 18th century
Europe).  Others will dress in modern business attire.  Some will only
eat food that is certified by the OU, others will allow other
organizations.  I know of one family that won't eat at anybody's house
other and their own - this is certainly excessive.

In general, there are some who go above and beyond the restrictions
mentioned in the Shulchan Oruch in order to "be sure" that they don't
accidentally break a law.  Others don't.

What better term would you use?  I think ultra-orthodox fits, as these
people go above and beyond the requirements of Judaism.
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From: schwartz@nynexst.com (Steven Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Refrigerators In "Stranger Among Us" (SPOILER)
Originator: schwartz@baba
Reply-To: schwartz@nynexst.com
Organization: Expert Systems Lab., NYNEX Sci. and Tech., White Plains NY
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:59:55 GMT


In article <1992Jul24.173728.25825@rs.com>, horen@rs.com (Jonathan B. Horen) writes:
> In article <1992Jul24.181630.26105@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> dsg@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (david.s.green) writes:
> >
> >I heard that one of the original suggestions for the title was:
> >
> >"Dances With Jews"
> 
> No, no; that's:
> 
> "Dances with Wolffs"

Anyone for "Fried Green Latkes"?
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From: VINER%BGUVM.bitnet@TAUNIVM.TAU.AC.IL (Dov Winer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Moshe Arad - new Director of the Ministry of Communications in
 Israel
Date: 23 Jul 1992 06:40:06 -0500
Organization: Ben-Gurion University, Beer-Sheva, Israel
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    Shalom,

    Moshe Arad has been nominated as the new Director of the Ministry of
    Communications by the Minister Moshe Shahal.
    Arad is the former Israeli Ambassador to Washington. Lately he has
    been at a private practice as lawyer.
    Those among the participants of Jewishnt, who have known Moshe Arad
    or otherwise wish  to communicate with him may do so through the
    following:

    ERES at ILNCRD is the email address of the Ministry of
    Communications and messages sent there will be forwarded to him.

    The fax number of the General Director's office is:
    (972) 2 706393

    Best regards,

    Dov Winer
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From: aaron@kesher.UUCP (Aaron Schmiedel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: society as the basis for religion (was Re: What is Jewish religion?)
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:40:25 GMT
Organization: KESHERnet International - Dallas, TX

In article <1992Jul22.213459.635249@locus.com> hayim@locus.com (Hayim Hendeles) writes:
>
>Thus, I detest the use of the word "Modern Orthodox". If "Modern Orthodox"


I think they are now calling themselves "Traditional Judaism."  One of the
shul's in my area that used to be affiliated with the OU and had a human
mechitza <grin> is now associated with a group of "Traditional Judaism" shuls.

I can't elaborate because I don't know the details....



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From: shimoff@umbc4.umbc.edu (Eliot Shimoff)
Subject: Hebrew School Curricula (Was Re: O-C-R debate)
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:03:25 GMT

In article <55131@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.151615.27056@umbc3.umbc.edu> shimoff@umbc4.umbc.edu (Eliot Shimoff) writes:


>
>			...................
>
>>Alas, there is  a Gresham's Law  operating in Jewish education.
>>The afternoon Hebrew schools used to meet 12 - 15 hours per week,
>>and the kid learned _something_.  Now they often meet 3 -5 hours
>>per week, and the  kids learn very little.  (My father once asked
>>a group of Hebrew school teachers to (a) name any 5 of the Ten
>>Commandments, (b) name the Five Books of Moses, and (c) name
>>at least three  Prophets; most of the teachers couldn't do it!.)
>
>Now if the teachers could not do this, well, incompetent teachers
>are everywhere.  A now retired professor told our congregation that
>one reason the Bible as literature is not being taught more is that
>most of the high school English teachers cannot read the KJV.  This
>means that they certainly could not read Shakespeare.
>
>But if a more organized curriculum is used, this is enough time to cover
>quite a bit.  A thorough understanding of the structure of Hebrew, with
>a very good start on the vocabulary, is quite possible in ONE year of
>3 hours a week class work.

Unfortunately, the task of the Hebrew school includes more than teaching
Hebrew.  In addition, it's gotta cover Jewish history, prayer, holidays,
rituals, ethics, culture, Israel, etc.  More significantly, the Hebrew
school is also charges with inculcating Jewish values (whatver that
phrase means), and providing a strong enough foundation to ensure that
that the graduates will continue their Jewish education and involvement
and commitment long after graduation.  And, to add to the burden, the
Hebrew schools must do this despite minimal parental support (e.g.,
homework assistance, etc.) and against constantly competing activities
("My child had to miss Hebrew school because of swim practice").




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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Anti-Orthodoxy (was Re: O-C-R debate)
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:27:39 GMT

In <1992Jul30.042915.10187@midway.uchicago.edu> rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis) writes:

    We not only think it's unnecessary, however, to follow "the dictates of
    the system as it was handed down through the generations", we feel it is
    actively *wrong*, as it involves omission of what we consider the correct
    and necessary interpretations of existing, absolute laws.

Sigh.
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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: What is Jewish religion? (long...)
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:29:54 GMT
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

jg = jgoldber@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Joel Goldberg)
hm = hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz) writes:

hm: Now lets drop the cannibal analogy as it does not really apply and
hm: is not leading anywhere.
jg: Is it eating at you?
I slave all day over a hot stove and you tell me you dont LIKE roast human?
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: What is Jewish religion? (long...)
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:41:39 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <55023@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>In article <9207240050.AA26910@ptms_dev.sbi.com> <gertler@ptms_dev.sbi.com (User - Don Gertler)> writes:
>
>>It need not be stated.  A mohel is one who performs milah.  Do we
>>need the Torah to state that speaking is to be performed by a speaker?
>
>But this merely states that whoever performs a circumcision is a mohel!
>Does one have to certify a speaker?

It doesn't.  Technically, any Jew can perform a circumcision.
Personally, I would never allow any son of mine to be worked on by a
person who wasn't qualified, though.  Your opinion may differ, though.

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From: ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet)
Subject: Re: Inheritance of Jewish Identity from a Great-great-grandmother
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories,  Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:04:41 GMT

In article <2294@israel.nysernet.org> warren@nysernet.org writes:
>Yes, you're right, it should be a plural verb.  Perhaps I've sometimes
>heard "yaamod hamagbiah, yaamod hagolel".  These days I go to shuls
>where the Gabbaim know how to speak Hebrew correctly, but I do think
>that in the past I've heard yaamod followed by two job descriptions.

Of course, in the distant - real distant past, one person performed
both jobs, making the yaamod's easier :^)
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From: isaac@numbat.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Isaac Balbin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Anti-Orthodoxy (was Re: O-C-R debate)
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:44:15 GMT

hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:

>They do say that the Orthodox are wrong in insisting that all others
>believe as the Orthodox do.

What does insist mean in this context?

If it says `suggest', then they are no different to anyone else.

If is says `force', then it is a lie.
From: ward@sun1.vlsi.waterloo.edu (Paul Ward)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: O-C-R debate
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:34:13 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <1992Jul27.200421.19648@cbfsb.cb.att.com> hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz) writes:
>In article <FAIGIN.92Jul27075601@soldan.aero.org> faigin@aero.org (Daniel P. Faigin) writes:
>>On Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:18:46 GMT, lerner@cs.columbia.edu (Michah Lerner) said:
>>
>>> name of progress).  But, in  fact, these axioms  are wrong.  1+1=3
>>> and this  is  actually the way things are.  That is  right, 1+1=3!
>>> It is  three!!  It is  not  two.  THREE!  This is  the fundamental
>>
>>No, you're wrong. 1 + 1 = 10. Boy, can't anyone add :-)
>>
>>Daniel
>>--
>
>Actually, the reg exp gives 1+1 = 11
>
>Or maybe since 2+2 = 5 then 1+1 = 2.5 (we could compromise)
>
>Hillel Markowitz        H_Markowitz@att.com

Actually the original poster is correct.  1+1 does equal 3 (but only
for large value of 1)
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