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From: seh003@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Dorm life
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:17:45 GMT

In article <1e79frINNlnf@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, cpluis@cats.ucsc.edu (Mulatto) writes:
> 
> 
> alright dudes, for those of you who live in the dorms, have you ever played you music (death metal) so loud that the whole fuckin foor gets on you?
> I've been in a non-ending battle with my "whole floor"
> what do you guys think I sould do.   Last time dudes,  I just said, fuck them
> I do whatever I want, so I took my KTA album and blasted it.  They didn't like
> but then who cares, I don't for sure.
> by the way
> I some times play metallica and slayer at the sametime, youn guys should try it
> it's F-owesome.
> 
> 

Perhaps you should consider showing some consideration and turn it down!  Not
that I don't like cranking Metallica, but if I don't annoy my neighbors, they
don't usually annoy me.  When my neighbors do get out of hand, I usually run
Tchaikovsky's 1812 Overture with live cannons through my PA.  That shuts up
just about anyone.  :)

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From: ultimate@tron.gun.de (Frank Stender)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Harvester Video
Organization: TRON Public Mailbox, Neurath, Germany
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:43:00 +0100

cs401005@scs.carleton.ca (jeff brinskelle) wrote:

-> > They played 2 or 3 Met videos and the new Harvester Of Sorrow video.
-> How old is this video?

Well, don't ask me... wait a minute and I'll have a look... got it.
The MTV flash-in says: Courtesy Warner Home Video "For those about
to rock: Monsters in Moscow"

It's a live version with some pretty nice shots of the crowd, soldiers
beating people up, and singing along at the end of the video.

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Subject: Re: live album???
From: everson@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Everson)
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:09:38 EST
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Organization: Harvard University Science Center

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Subject: Re: live album???
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In article <bn.00f9@mndcrme.uoknor.edu> bn@mndcrme.uoknor.edu (Bo Najdrovsky) writes:
> My ideal song list would be: (in semi-chronological order)
>
>Blitzkrieg, Seek And Destroy, The Four Horsemen, Whiplash,  Ride The
>Lightning, Fade To Black, Creeping Death, Master Of Puppets, Welcome Home..,
>Disposable Heroes, Leper Messiah, Damage Inc., ...And Justice For All, One,
>Frayed Ends, Dyer's Eve, Enter Sandman, Wherever I May Roam, The Struggle
>Within.

I've been hoping for a live Metallica album since I saw them on their
last tour (before GNR) - the two best concerts I've ever seen (excluding
Dead shows - comparing apples & oranges, you know). I agree the above
set would be amazing, but it didn't happen. I'd much rather have an album
that reproduced a show: pick a concert and make an album from the soundboard
(or most of it, unless they make a three hour album ;-). I'd be so disapointed
if they released a live album that didn't include at least one of the solo
segments - preferably Jason's with Orion embedded in the middle. Of course
then we'd miss Kirk and his 'Alfred Hitchcock presents' jam, and Lars &
James' drum duel - fuck it, put all three on! I'd much rather see a concert
album than a live greatest hits compilation (the set they played was a 
pretty good collection of songs anyway!).

my $.02

	-Phil
From: bcopelan@cs.strath.ac.uk (Barry Copeland TBS92)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: GNR Metallica Faith No More
Date: 20 Nov 92 10:06:17 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.

In article <1992Nov19.192028.21605@csus.edu> vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (R0Y) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.094131.12933@news.acns.nwu.edu> jcc@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jeremy Caplan) writes:
>>This is not to say that Metallica wasn't awesome--they were.  But when they
>>had to STOP in the middle of Harvestor of Sorrow and messed up in Shortest
>>Straw, it kinda messed things up a bit.
>
>                                                    And as for Shortest Straw,
>this is the first tour in which they played that song live.

MetallicA actually played Shortest Straw on the Europe '90 tour (at the Glasgow
gig anyway).


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                        /Cannot the kingdom of salvation take me home" 
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From: jcc@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jeremy Caplan)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Live Album
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:00:50 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

When will this LIVE ALBUM be released?

Jer
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: live album???
From: chbaumga@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Chris Baumgartner)
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:22:16 EST

bcopelan@cs.strath.ac.uk (Barry Copeland TBS92) writes:
: >
: >PS. Does anyone have a bootleg of The Nov 5th gig at the NEC when Diamond Head
: >   came on and played with them? If so, please email me.....
: >
: Please email me too!
: 

Same here!

--
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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Drums, anyone?
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:28:06 GMT

In article <7792@monmouth.edu> c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE) writes:
>Anyone out there in Never Never Land play drums?

Yes.

philip



Philip Wang
E-mail at pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
"Though many a tortured night prevails thy Exorcisms shall but fail
While Crucifix doth burn my flesh I shall not yield to you unless I Die."
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: mtc001@dunix.drake.edu (Spike)
Subject: Re: Metallica Sucks . . .
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:38:15 GMT

In article <23NOV199211484825@phobos.ucc.umass.edu> s9877751@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9877751) writes:
>C'mon, get with it, losers.  Metallica sucks.  They don't play REAL 
>metal.  They're a big bunch of sell out losers--their last album was shit,
>and anything they make in the future will be shit.  They had some good
>music on their earlier albums, but they just SOLD-OUT!  So, go ahead and
>flame away, but Metallica has sold out and that's, SAD BUT TRUE.
>
>Ha, ha, ha, what a bunch of losers!
>
>Here's some bands you should be listening to:
>venom, bolt-thrower, carcass, obituary, slayer, iced earth, iron maiden,
>deicide, unleashed, entombed, nocturnus, and so on and so forth...

Thanks for the suggestions...I'll look into them.

How do you know anything that they will make in the future will be "shit"?
Have you actually heard anything that they are working on currently?  If you
have, let me in on it.

Well, you seem very opinionated and that's perfectly fine...but to call me a
loser because I like Metallica is not the way to get me to listen.

Metallica matures and grows.  Their songwriting is being perfected.  I feel 
that the "black album" is a transition album.  I really think Metallica is
going to dump Bob Rock OR add another producer (not likely) and come out with
a new album Bob Rock's new and improved sound with harsher writing.  Maybe
they can tap a new vein?  We'll just have to see.

Hey, try this fans.....Play "Enter Sandman" in your cd changer (just the intro
and first verse) and then quickly play "Escape" from RTL.

Escape is pretty much a speedied up version of Sandman.  It shows Bob Rock's
influence on their sound...slow it down, boost the bass, clearer singing.
Fascinating similarity between those songs!!!

Check it out.

-] Spike
From: wamsley@ganymede.cis.ohio-state.edu (Christopher Wamsley)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: the $9.98 EP / Garage Days Re-revisited CD
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:54:37 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

Jason D. Ladd writes:
>You can buy Garage Days from Columbia House CD club.

  How much is it?  I saw it at a local store for $39.99.


  -- Chris

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Date: Wednesday, 18 Nov 1992 15:36:19 EST
From: tim jones <IO10902@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: the $9.98 EP / Garage Days Re-revisited CD
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                       $9.98
From: everson@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Everson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Metallica and GNR
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:07:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <Bxx9FI.Lu0@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> wilsonjc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (John Wilson) writes:
>In article <BxwByo.MDw@DMI.USherb.CA> vignl00@DMI.USherb.CA (LOIS VIGNEAULT) writes:
>>I've been to the Montreal show.  Yes the one where James get burned by the
>>pyro stuff!
>>
>>And the smae where #@%@#$ GNR gives a five songs performace!
>>
>>What a bunch of fucking bastards! (GNR of course)
>>
>>After 2 hours (or mroe) waiting for GNR, the crowd was getting upset.
>>When GNR started, everybody seemed to have forgotten the wait time!
>>But when Axl told us to get a refund (he had some voice problem) the crowd
>>began shouting "FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU."
>>Fuck GNR! (The worst part?  They got more popular after the mega-riot!)
>
>	I went to the Indianapolis show, and Metallica has got to be one of
>the best bands to see live.  I was even anxious to see GNR until Axl came out 
>and began calling the audiences hicks and putting down Indiana.  Now I agree,
>it's not the most exciting place in the world, and there are alot of hicks here,but I paid thirty bucks to hear him sing, not hear him tell us his life story
>and preach to us about how bad our lives are.  Is it just me, or is Axl a total
>asshole to everyone? Just curious.
>John
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From: vignl00@DMI.USherb.CA (LOIS VIGNEAULT)
Subject: Re: Metallica and GNR
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. d'Informatique
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:15:59 GMT

I've been to the Montreal show.  Yes the one where James get burned by the
pyro stuff!

And the smae where #@%@#$ GNR gives a five songs performace!

What a bunch of fucking bastards! (GNR of course)

As far as Metallic is concerned, the show was getting better and better.

When they started Fade To Black, the crowd got crazy and James got burned
causing the show to a premature end.

After 2 hours (or mroe) waiting for GNR, the crowd was getting upset.

When GNR started, everybody seemed to have forgotten the wait time!

But when Axl told us to get a refund (he had some voice problem) the crowd
began shouting "FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU."

This is definetly a wild experiend (heraing 50000 people yelling FUCK YOU).

But I'm still hoping that Metallica will be back someday (they promise real soon
but do they give a fuck?)0

Fuck GNR! (The worst part?  They got more popular after the mega-riot!)

A concerned fan : Max Halen!

Bye!
From: cmrtcv@rosie.uh.edu (92F09797)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Live Album???
Date: 17 Nov 1992 12:31 CST
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In article <53535.321924856@kiwi.gen.nz>, rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet) writes...
> 
>I understand that Metallica's extremely bottom heavy, but Cliff never sounded
>like that. And Jason proved on garage Days that he's not that bad a bassist
>(e.g. Crash Course in Brain Surgery).
> 
   One of the many differences between Cliff and Jason is
that Cliff made himself be heard no matter what..he would
add a little solo here and there to let you know that he
was playing...that was his style.  I don't know about
Jason, maybe he was to "new" and scared to do anything
out of line during "Justice", or maybe he was afraid of
being accussed of trying to copy Cliff.
From: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill 'em All CD question (old wound opener)
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:25:48 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <10970@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> bcopelan@cs.strath.ac.uk (Barry Copeland TBS92) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.213646.22524@csus.edu> vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.) writes:
>
>>>  Cannot the kingdom of starvation take me home. 
>>                         ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>-    - Cliff Burton 1962-1986                                                 -
>>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>The word is SALVATION, not STARVATION!!  How dare you desecrate the
>>words of Cliff Burton!!
>>
>>	  There's unknown tools for World War III.
>>     Einstein said "We'll use rocks on the other side".
>
>Apologies all round for the genuine spelling mistake. I hope this desecration 
>does not damage my chances of reaching such a kingdom.
>
>But who is Roy J to slag my lyrics when he himself quotes that Mustaine person??

If it is a sin to like both Megadeth & Metallica then I am guilty.  And
I did not slag your lyrics.  I corrected your typing of Cliff's lyrics.



"Can you and I be friends?" -- Teddy Ruxpin
From: 2760carpente@vms.csd.mu.edu (METALLICA)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Metallica and GNR
Date: 18 Nov 1992 22:00:15 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <BxwByo.MDw@DMI.USherb.CA>, vignl00@DMI.USherb.CA (LOIS VIGNEAULT) writes:
>I've been to the Montreal show.  Yes the one where James get burned by the
>pyro stuff!
>And the smae where #@%@#$ GNR gives a five songs performace!
>What a bunch of fucking bastards! (GNR of course)

That's true. Axlhole is a total prick, who thinks he is god.   We know
that Axl is just a little prick pissed off because people like Metallica more
at their shows.

>As far as Metallic is concerned, the show was getting better and better.
>When they started Fade To Black, the crowd got crazy and James got burned
>causing the show to a premature end.

I last them last year and James mentioned the fact the "Fade to Black" got
really big in Milwaukee before it caught on any where. Lazer 103 (WLZR) started
playing it at 2:00-3:00 in the morning.  They had a show called "Mandatory
Metallica" & it was pretty cool. 2-3 Metallica tunes, some Iron Maiden, Judas
Priest, Sabatth, Megadeath and a sampling of new glam rock crap..

>After 2 hours (or mroe) waiting for GNR, the crowd was getting upset.
>When GNR started, everybody seemed to have forgotten the wait time!
>But when Axl told us to get a refund (he had some voice problem) the crowd
>began shouting "FUCK YOU, FUCK YOU."

  I would have liked to seen that.  Don't ge me wrong.  I like GN'R.  I have
all their albums, EP's.  But when punks like Axl start copping an attitude, it
time to say ---fuck you. Kiss my ass..  

>This is definetly a wild experiend (heraing 50000 people yelling FUCK YOU).
>But I'm still hoping that Metallica will be back someday (they promise real soon
>but do they give a fuck?)0

Of course they give a fuck.  They'll be back to make up that show and it will
be one of their best live shows.. Metallica rules


>Fuck Gnr!!!  
yaah

vin
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From: ronan@ug.cs.dal.ca (brian c ronan)
Subject: We're Baaaaaack!!!
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:02:07 GMT

F**KING A..Metallica is coming back to Halifax in late
January or early February (not confirmed but was told by
box office that it was 99%)...tickets should go on sale next 
week...still no idea on the opening band....who is touring
with them at this moment...what is their show like..how long..
AJFA tour was just amazing....counting the seconds till
the "four horsemen" show up

					Brian

To those of you who said they sold out on MOP and AJFA..
WHY did you buy the black album...just to keep complaining
From: chris.sokol@factory.com (Chris Sokol) 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Dorm life
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:06:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: chris.sokol@factory.com (Chris Sokol) 

JEK>KTA? What the hell album is that?

Think he meant KEA.
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From: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Subject: Re: Live Album???
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:05:44 GMT

In article <1e4sd2INN43v@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman) writes:
>
>Orion, Call of Kthulu, Anesthesia, and To Live Is To Die would all
>RULE live.  Does Metallica ever play them?  Both Met shows I have
>seen only had Newstead solo awhile (pretty amazing stuff) but
>no instrumentals.
>
>                                              Moses

They used to play part of To Live is To Die on the Justice Tour right
after Jason's shit bass solo.  It sounded better on the album (AJFA) where
Jason's bass line is inaudible.

On recent tours they've been playing the middle part of Orion after
Jason's boring solo.  Jason really ruined the whole song by fucking up
Cliff's original melodic bass line.

Anesthesia and all Cliff's live solos ruled.  But it would really suck if
Newsted tryed to play that.  Cliff played all his solos from his heart,
and varied them from gig to gig, whereas Newsted plays the same lame
unemotional solos over and over, note for note.  And besides, Anesthesia
wouldn't sound very good played with a pick.


Note -- all of preceding text IMHO, but please post if you disagree with
me.

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Subject: Re: Live Album???
From: rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet)
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:52:15 GMT
Organization: Household UNIX, Auckland, New Zealand
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: They used to play part of To Live is To Die on the Justice Tour right
: after Jason's shit baso. It s   sounded better on the album (AJFA) where
: Jason's bass line is inaudible.
: 

Good point. Just why is Jason's playing so quiet on Justice? No matter how much
I strain, or how stoned I am, i can seldom hear any bass notes. One exception
is the beginning of The Shortest Straw, when Jason's bass comes in it's the cue
for James to start playing somthing other than E :-)

I understand that Metallica's extremely bottom heavy, but Cliff never sounded
like that. And Jason proved on garage Days that he's not that bad a bassist
(e.g. Crash Course in Brain Surgery).

Rabbi                    
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From: cs401005@scs.carleton.ca (jeff brinskelle)
Subject: Re: MTV Special
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:50:29 GMT

ultimate@tron.gun.de (Frank Stender) wrote:

> They played 2 or 3 Met videos and the new Harvester Of Sorrow video. Brought
					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How old is this video?
From: TLS129@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Dorm life
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:48:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

In article <97784@netnews.upenn.edu>, ericfitz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Eric P
Fitzpatrick) says:
>
>One weekend when my RA was away, I decided to exercise my stereo and allow the
>floor to "listen" in on my musical tastes. After blasting my two favorite
>metallica tunes (Breadfan and Stone Cold Crazy), I actually met someone who
>came by and asked if what I was playing was Metallica. It turned out that he
>liked Metallica and just hadn't heard some of their more obscure stuff (IMHO).
>To sum up, Hell ya I like to "share" my music with the rest of my floor, who's
>stereos are *puny* and whom don't listen to Metallica. If they don't like it,
>they close their doors or go to the library.

Like someone else said, maybe you people should have a little consideration of
the rights of others living on your floor who may not wish to partake of the
"sharing" of your music.  I mean, hey, I love Metallica.  I love to jam to it.
But I have headphones, too.  Not only do they sometimes sound better, but I can
sometimes get into the music even more with the music right on my skull!  I've
been on the other end of it, though.  It all comes down to this:  The dorms do
not exist for us to "share" our music with everyone around us.  Sure, it's cool
if you turn someone on to a group you really like, but one person out of
however many people living on your floor hardly warrants it.  Dorms are there
to be a haven and home to everyone who lives there, not just a few persons'
personal habbits and interests.  Why should anybody be inconvenieced (sp?) by
one person's tastes?  I sure as Hell wouldn't appreciate having to leave my
room and go to the library because someone nearby was too inconsiderate and
rude that they didn't feel I needed to study in peace.  And closing your door
usually doesn't do any good if it's that loud.  People lose sight of the fact
that they aren't the only people in the world and that there are others to
consider.  Maybe YOU wouldn't mind having to go to the library to study, but
maybe somebody ELSE would.  Don't get all pissed off about that, just think
about it a little.  Christ, it's a twenty-minute walk in the 10 degree air
from my dorm here!  I sure wouldn't like it.

-Bill

"BURRP...ha, ha, ha...I fucked up...in one place..."  -MetallicA
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