From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Re: McMahon's Drug Policy
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:06:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.182808.4663@njitgw.njit.edu>, jmk9313@hertz.njit.edu (Jason Kaminski) writes:
> jsteeves@ac.dal.ca writes:
> >The guys that have the technical know-how seem to be the ones that probably
> >aren't juicing. Ric Flair, Ted Dibiase, Bret Hart, Mike Rotundo, Curt Hennig,
> >and many light-heavyweights would be on my list on non-roiders. All
> >gifted WRESTLERS.
> I would include in that list Rick Rude, Ricky Steamboat, Randy Savage (though
> he probably used them a while ago back when him and Hogan were the 
> "MegaPowers",and Ultimate Warrior (now, anyway.  The thing about 
> him is I believe he knows
> how to work, Vince just felt he'd be better as a juicing fan favorite.  UW
> impressed me years ago in Summer Slam when he lost the title to Rude.)  And
> add the Undertaker to that list.  I think he's naturally that big.  If he were
> roidin' he'd probably have more definition.

  My unsolicitied comments:
  
  Guys with know-how
  that aren't juicing                         Comments

  Ted DiBiase                   Agreed.  It's a little disappointing that
                                he hasn't been able to show his stuff in
                                the past while, but we could all find 
                                good WWF memories of his technical 
                                ability.

  Ric Flair                     Agreed.  Appears to not have been on the
                                juice for a while and has lots of technical 
                                know-how (hampered by wrestling guys like
                                Warrior & Undertaker, though).

  Bret Hart                     I wouldn't bet the house that he's clean.
                                Maybe he got the lucky genetics, but all
                                the other Hart boys (not to mention dad)
                                aren't muscleheads and neither was Bret
                                ten years ago.  I'm unconvinced that it's
                                training alone.  Technical know-how?  We
                                keep getting it rammed down our throats
                                that he's the "excellence of execution,"
                                but how much of that is hype and how much
                                of that is based on his current work?

  Curt Hennig                   Off the juice?  Please.  Maybe he is now
                                that he's "retired," but during his WWF
                                wrestling stint?  Technical know-how?
                                He stopped showing a lot of stuff in his
                                matches and turned them into bump shows
                                instead, which has little to do with
                                technical know-how.  I suppose he didn't
                                lose that know-how, but still, it didn't
                                come to the surface as much as others on
                                this list. 

  Mike Rotunda                  Agreed. 

  Rick Rude                     Off the juice?  Come on.  Is it coincidence
                                that he was most inquisitive and interested
                                when a doctor was brought in to talk to the 
                                WCW guys about steroids?  I'm not convinced.
                                Technical know-how?  Well, Rude's specialty
                                has always been taking a few spectacular
                                bumps, not his technical wrestling.  He 
                                can and does have very good matches, though.

  Randy Savage                  Definitely off the juice.  Technical know-how?
                                He has great charisma and has had a high
                                work-rate in the past, but technical?  I dunno. 

  Ricky Steamboat               Agreed.  Appears to not have been on the
                                juice for a while and has lots of technical
                                know-how. 

  Ultimate Warrior              Off-and-on the juice.  I guess with the 
                                body-suit, he's gonna clean himself out.
                                I don't know where the idea that he can
                                work comes from.  What evidence of this
                                have we ever had? 

  Undertaker                    He doesn't have to be on the juice with that
                                ring costume.  Technical know-how?  Please. 

  Lots of Jr. Heavyweights      True enough.

                                                                     Herb...
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