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From: s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Kuo Ka-fai (Re: WONG LISA's show besides singing ...)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:34:56 GMT

>Man Shiu Chin Shan Chong Si Ching is composed by Kuo Ka-fai, right?
>I think it's copied from a melody of a western moive, which
>now used by Marbolo cigarette. Kuo Ka-fai s*cks. He and Sam
>Hui once clamied the song of Mui Si Mun(Everything Ask) is
>composed by them, in fact everyone knows the song is exactly
>"There's a kind of Hush".

yup, that's one reason i don't like music from hongkong: too much copying,
too few originals. i hate songs copied from english pop songs. after you 
listen to the original version, it makes you puke to hear the cantonese 
version.
From: wchau@acsu.buffalo.edu (Wun-chun Chau)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Cow ---- Part 1 (Graphic)
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:29:03 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo

In article <1992Apr15.172527.7019@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au> shsieh@esk (Melva Hsieh) writes:
>
>	If you really do have 3000 lines of cow, I love to have a copy,
>
>please send me, my address :
>
>	shsieh@pieman.compserv.utas.edu.au
>
>	Thank you, Happy Easter !

Me too! my address : wchau@acsu.buffalo.edu

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From: hpang@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: I N S T A N T N O O D L E S
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:56:53 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <ku57c6INN3ks@girtab.usc.edu> plaw@girtab.usc.edu (Patrick Law) writes:
>
>Hi all instant noodles lover,
>
>   I know it is a bit like a joy killer when I talk about the bad
>side of instant noodles in this forum. Personally, I loved instant
>noodle a lot. Everytime I ate one, I drank all the soup (MSG plus
>coloring) as well.
>
>   However, my close friend's mother got a stomach cancer about
>two years ago. Though the cause is not directly related to instant
>noodle, I started thinking about eating healthy.
>
>   Come on guys, look at the ingredients of the instant noodle on
>the package everytime when you are waiting the water to boil. I
>think you have to have a chemistry degree to understand all the
>terms there. And all these chemicals go down to your stomach!!
>
>   Have a good day!
>
>Patrick

Every normal human being knows this fact.  Thanks for the reminder.  I quitted
since two years ago...

- Louis 

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* Have a nice day!
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From: wud@acf5.NYU.EDU (David Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Lai Ming
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:26:47 GMT
Organization: New York University, New York

uchoman@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Irene So) writes:

>I don't think Lai Ming is as bad as the way described in some of the news
>article.  I feel pity for him since no matter how hard he has tried to
>improve in singing his songs, most people still argue that he always sings
I feel pity for him too, a marketing product conceived and puppeted by
business/marketing people.
All he has is a okay looking shell, A LOT OF work must be done to improve
the inside, if indeed he has any singing talent at all.

>If you were put in the same situation, I think you will feel very
>discouraging. 
If somehow I am in such a situation, I would be totally depressed and
will probably be too embrassed to appear in public.  I'll probably
change jobs so that I would cause less pain to the world.

>So stop complaining and be CONSIDERATE!
Yeah.. can't put all the blame on him, it is greed, the greedy record company,
TV station, film companies of HK.  This proves that many people actually
care more about appearence than anything else.  Just human nature, the
ugly part of it.
-Dave Wu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wkau+@cs.cmu.edu (Wing Keung F Au)
Subject: misc topics
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:13:44 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

1) stop posting IDENTICAL REPEATED copies of the same article, it is
very very annoying (yes, this time i volunteer to be the net police 8-)
)

2) i have just browsed through news.answers, and there is an excellent
post by mark kantrowitz (a fellow cmu-er) about air-travelling, how to
get the cheapest deal, how to get "bumped" and negotiate the bumping
compensation, etc.  since this is the time people book their flights
home for summer, you might as well spend 15 min reading that,

enjoy (sure i am cos these are the last days of my account)

-- 

				    FRed W. Au
				    ...!cmu.edu!au+, au+@cmu.edu
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From: leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee)
Subject: Re: Lai Ming (he is okay)
Organization: University of Toronto
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:33:33 GMT

In article <thomasc.703106724@morrison.wri.com> thomasc@morrison.wri.com (Thomas Chin) writes:
>The point is - some people really LOVE Lai Ming. We may like Jacky Cheung and
>Sandy Lam, but we won't climb up the stage to kiss them (and break the stage!)
>The thing is at this point in the history of HK, this guy brings passion and
>enlightenment to some people. Because of him, some people feel warm and lead
>to their emotional attachment to HK. To them, Lai Ming is not even a
>professional, he is an artist. BTW, professionism is something one should
>only talk to the pillow at bed time. What is professionism anyway?  
>Professional and academic education is merely means of self-improvement. It
>is by no mean a definition of a fine human being and by no mean a god damn
>moral standard.
>
>--Tom

	You've made some very objective and senisble
points. To clarity my standpoint, I'm not a fan of Leon Lai. I just
agree with Tom that we don't have to say that someone is not professional
to be a singer. It`s our choice to wheter buy his albums, listen to his
songs or going to his concerts. No one is forcing you to accept him.

	The fact is, there are really many people who like him and
support him. From the business point of view, he has the perfect reason
to stay in the business : he makes money and popularity. There are
many other good singers out there if you want to enjoy good singing
(like Ah Lam, Jacky Cheung, Sandy Lam...etc). Its a free market
comrads! :)


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From: cs4gp6ag@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Chan        KS)
Subject: Air Fare from S.F. to H.K.
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:35:28 GMT

Hi Netters :

	I would like to know how much is a air ticket one way to
HK from San Fransico, any airline will do.  Deparure date is around
late June and early May.   

	Thanks in advance.


						Alan
From: gho@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Grace Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Andy Lau's Concert
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:24:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Well, Andy Lau's concert at Atlantic City was pretty good. The group
"Clear blue Eyes" didn't do that bad there...in fact, from what i gathered,
most of the guys enjoyed them. I had 3 row seats and i've been in that
arena before for an Alan Tam concert and had what i thought were awful
seats but they weren't that bad. So all in all, i guess all the seats in
that small arena would be ok.  Yeah, he was a little off tune sometimes
and missed his cue many others but it was still ok, i guess.  From what
i heard, the $100 tickets were sold out within a week and that the
other 2 shows were sold out too.  I went to the first showing and after
a while, it did fill up pretty much but i don't think it was a sell-out.
I was kind of shocked b/c there seemed to be more people showing up
for the 2:00am show than the 11:30pm show.  But still, does anyone know
that Korean song?  I could have sworn that i heard it in chinese before.

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From: wongi@netcom.com (Isaac Wong)
Subject: Re: HK Governor
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 23:10:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <20313@castle.ed.ac.uk> egeo17@castle.ed.ac.uk (M L Broadgate) writes:
>I have just heard a viscious rumour from my sister that Chris Patten

who is Chris Patten?

>
>Personally I would love to see someone like Lydia Dun as Governor - but

nahhhhh, that I am not sure I share. I don't know this lady very well but 
so far I have only heard bad things about this person.
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From: leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee)
Subject: Re: HK singers
Organization: University of Toronto
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:02:15 GMT

In article <9204112029.AA08838@oak.math.ucla.edu> cykwan@MATH.UCLA.EDU (Chik Yun Kwan) writes:
>
>  If you are asked to divide HK singers into different catagories,
>how would you divide them and who will you put in each catagory ?
>
>Idol type:
>
>   1) Andy Lau

	I foresee Andy will graduaull migrate from Idol type to good
singing still type. I can see the potential in him. 

>   2) Leon Lai
>   3) Kwok Fu Shing
>
>Talent in composing, arranging:
>
>   1) Anthony Lun
>      eg: "Man behind the piano", "heart is still cold",...

	He definitely is one of the tops in this catagry

>   2) Lowell Lo ( Lo Kwun Ting )
>      eg: "Going with you", "Sky bird", "The lost heart",...
>   3) Ah Lam ( George Lam )
>      eg: "who can understand me", "moment","the unforgetable you"-
>          in his latest album ,...

	George is the other top 'creative' singer.

>   4) Danny Chan
>      eg: "wait","Lin Yee","the footprint on the beach",...

	I don't think he is great despite the good songs he's composed.
They're in fact really simple, but good, melodies. I belive anyone
who's taken some kind of musical training can compose his kind of
songs. (I discovered that about 10 years ago.)

>   5) Law Tai Yau ( who composed Queen's Road East )
>   6) Beyond
>   7) Tai Chi
>   8) Chris Wong ( Wong Hoi Ken )
>   9) Sam Hui
>   10) Kenny Bee
>   11) Tat Ming
>   12) Fundamental
>
>Great singing skill:
>
>   1) Ah Lam (remark: I think he is the best in HK. He can simply sing
>      any keys )
>   2) Alan Tam
>   3) Shally Yeh (sp? that is Yip sin Man)
>   4) Lam Yik Lin
>   5) Anita Mui
>   6) Lui Fong
>   7) Tsai Siu Fung 
>   8) Jackie Cheung
>   9) Lee Huk Ken 

	Totally agree!  In my opinion, a good singer has ability to
sing .. oops... to perform, shall I say, both slow and fast songs.
Ah Lam is the one who can do both excellently, and so can today's
Sandy Lam. (And let's not forget Anita Mui). Their live performances
can be really enjoyable.

	I'd also like to add Roman Tam to this group. He is really an
excellent performer! Although he is not at all popular, I would be
willing to pay $80 to his concert in a standard concert hall than
paying the same amount to Andy Lau's "SkyDome extravaganza".


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From: fcc1@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Fat-Chi Cheng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Breathing Sound of Yo-Yo Ma (was Re: HK singers)
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:43:32 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester Computing Center

I am not trying to destory our netters' joy in listening to Ma's performance.

But, if you don't notice Ma's breathing sound, trying listening to
some of his recordings for Sonata or for pieces with solo cello. 
(It might not easy to identify the sound for Concento which involves
many kinds of instruments.) 
Use headphone and CD player.
Play attention to the time about 0.5 to 1 second before his cello 
enters. suiii.......... suiiiiiiii........ :-)
 
If you still don't get it, try to watch some video for Ma's concert.
Finally, you might try to get a front seat in his concert.
Ma is currently with CBS.

Hope this won't help.:-) 'cause you might not enjoy his performance
after recognize this.

Fat-Chi
From: wud@acf5.NYU.EDU (David Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Lai Ming (he is okay)
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:16:45 GMT
Organization: New York University, New York

thomasc@morrison.wri.com (Thomas Chin) writes:

>The point is - some people really LOVE Lai Ming. We may like Jacky Cheung and
I guess the act of worshipping an idol is just a reflection of the need to
fill up one's inside.  Maybe these poeple can enrich their lives in ways
other than idolizing blindly.  Idolizing is one of the things 
that people go through then they are growing up.  From this, I assume
most fans of people like Leon are young people in their early teens.
In such a case, they can be forgiven.  Any mature adult idolizing
Leon probably have some psychological problems of their own or they 
just have a soft spot in their heart to pity acts like Lai Ming.

>Sandy Lam, but we won't climb up the stage to kiss them (and break the stage!)
>The thing is at this point in the history of HK, this guy brings passion and
>enlightenment to some people. Because of him, some people feel warm and lead
>to their emotional attachment to HK. To them, Lai Ming is not even a
>professional, he is an artist. BTW, professionism is something one should
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
An artist!  Leon Lai!?  As I've said before, he is just a
product of greedy TV and record companies.  His entire image is the idea of
marketing people, whose only purpose is to squeeze all the money they possibily
can out of their 'products'.  Lai Ming can't even quality as a decent pop-
singer, and pop singers are just pop singers, nothing more.

>only talk to the pillow at bed time. What is professionism anyway?  
>Professional and academic education is merely means of self-improvement. It
>is by no mean a definition of a fine human being and by no mean a god damn
>moral standard.
I do not care if Leon is a fine human being or not, that has nothing to
do with being a pro as you've correctly pointed out.  I guess fans of Leon
just fell for the trap created by greedy business people.  It isn't really
Lai Ming's fault that he is making so much money for himself, the 
TV and record companies by showing no talent except a good looking face.

I am sorry if I offended anyone, those are just my opinions, no flames 
intended.

-Dave

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From: K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: I N S T A N T N O O D L E S
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:40:18 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 91862372@mail

In article <19940@castle.ed.ac.uk> egeo17@castle.ed.ac.uk (M L Broadgate) writes:
>Phew - some pretty heavy sexist stuff here!!!  Can I suggest a solution
>to this problem which may shock all you guys out there....
>
>COOK THEM YOURSELF!

OK OK ... I won't let her do so next time if she doesn't wash her hands
after making herself up :) :)

Fred
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Computer Science, University of Bradford, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: rng@cs.ulowell.edu (Raymond F. Ng)
Subject: test
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:57:28 GMT

This is a test!!



Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: yap40294@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gotta go to class ;P)
Subject: Re: HK singers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:49:18 GMT

K.K.Soo@bradford.ac.uk (KK SOO) writes:

>leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung) writes:

>>You apparently left out 2 superstars and 1 talented person. (Hint: they
>>are the same generation as Sam Hui and Ah Lam.)

>I guess they're Kwan Jing kit, Yip Chun Tong and Big AL.

>Fred
>-- 
>k.k.soo@bradford.ac.uk
>Computer Science, University of Bradford, UK.

How about Frances Yip (Yip Lai Yee) and Yan Nei?

Anastasia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mkwan@esk (Michael  Kwan)
Subject: Cow ---- Part 1
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 17:24:00 GMT


              /\
       /\____/  \_
      /           \
     |  Australia  |
      \   ____    /
       \_/    \__/
               __
               \/ <---- Tasmania

Dear Friends,


            --==>>  THE COMPLETE GUIDE TO COWS  <<==--
                            Part One
                 as you've NEVER seen them before!

                  ________________________
         (__)    /                        \      
         (oo)   (  Hello, Everybody !      )
  /-------\/  --'\________________________/    
 / |     ||
*  ||----||             
   ^^    ^^             
     Cow             

-  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -

         (__)             (__)             (__)             (__)
         (oo)             (oo)             (oo)             (oo)
  /-------\/       /-------\/       /-------\/       /-------\/
 / |     ||       / |     ||       / |     ||       / |     ||
*  ||----||      *  ||W---||      *  ||w---||      *  ||V---||
   ^^    ^^         ^^    ^^         ^^    ^^         ^^    ^^
     Cow           Cow laden        Same cow       Nancy Reagan-type
                   with milk     after milking     cow with milk

         (___)             (___)    *        (___)             (___)
         (o o)             (o o)     \       (o o)             (o o)
  /-------\ /       /-------\ /       \-------\ /       /-------\ /
 / |     ||O       / |     ||O         |     ||O       / | ~#>-+|O
*  ||,---||       *  ||@\--||          ||,---||       *  ||,----|
   ^^    ^^          ^^    ^^          ^^    ^^          ^^     ^
     Bull       Same bull after    Rotc bull after    Red-blooded American Bull
                seeing above cow   seeing other bull   shooting the Rotc bull



         (__)             (__)             (__)             (__)
         (oo)             (oo)             (oo)             (oo)
  /-------\/-*     /-------\/       /-------\/   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 / |     || \     )*)(\/* /  *     / |     ||
*  ||----||  *   \ |||/)|/()(    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
\/|(/)(/\/(,,/   \)|(/\/|)(/\
  Cow munching   Grass munching   Cow in water       Cow in trouble
    on grass         on cow


			(World Distribution Version)

					Michael KWAN
					University of Tasmania, Launceston.
					<mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au>
					<mkwan@pieman.compserv.utas.edu.au>


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From: wongkc@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (WONG  KESON KWOK PUI)
Subject: Re: Lai Ming
Summary:  The actual worth of things...
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:04:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.023925.5282@jho.com> john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
>>>If you were put in the same situation, I think you will feel very
>>>discouraging. 
>>>So stop complaining and be CONSIDERATE!
>
>Be CONSIDERATE?????  Professional singers get paid for their 
					       ^^^^
Where does this money come from?!?!  

Answer:  Us!  At least those who buy their stuff.

>performance, their voice, their talent and some packaging, of course.
>When Lai Ming announces to the world that he is a Pro, he better 
>lives up to the minimun standard of a professional - do it well
>and do it good - this is what professionalism is all about.  
>I doubt if he or his record company will be considerate when I 
>purchase his CD, so why should I be considerate if he can't even 
>get the tone right.

  Don't forget about the concert tours they will take.  That only increases
the amount of money they make.  In the case of Mr. Lai, I would not think it
is worth the money to go see him in concert.  BTW, here in Toronto, I have
heard it will cost CDN$80 to see him in ACTION at Sky Dome (Same place as
Andy Lau).  Well, this Leon guy has touched the hearts 8-) of many YOUNG 
people (mostly girls).  I don't know what is so special about him.  My little
sister is almost head over heels for that guy.  It must be a phase or something.

   There is also another group, Grasshopper.  How about them?  I have not
grown a likeness for them as well, but they appear to reach the same group as
Leon Lai does.  Any comments from out there?

ttfn
				A. Mak

A209MAKA@CDF.TORONTO.EDU


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From: rk7151@csc.albany.edu (KWOK RAYMOND Y)
Subject: Re: HK driver licence
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
	<1992Apr16.165742.3676@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:06:31

In article <1992Apr16.165742.3676@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> kho@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (kelvin.ho) writes:

>   In article <1992Apr15.153846.20006@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, kokwok@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca (julian) writes:
>   > In article <12423@tamsun.tamu.edu>, wwong@cs.tamu.edu (Wai-Kwok Wong) writes:
>   > |> 
>   > |> One of my friends is going to return to HK. Can she use her Texas driver licenceto apply
>   > |> a HK driver licence? If yes, how?
>   > |> Is an international driving permit useful?
>   > One more thing, she may use an international driver's licence <=> she is not a 
>   > citizen of HK. ( I think that the international driver's licence is for tourist only. )

>   What if one is US citizen but also holding HK Identification card (updated 
>   and valid one with 3 stars), is he/she considered tourist? HK resident?
>   Can she/he use Int'l driver licence?
	
	Interesting question. People in Hong Kong are not considered as
	citizens, they are all residents (except tourists). If you get
	a HK ID Card, then you are considered as Hong Kong resident,
	no matter which citizenship you currently holding.
	Case like, you are born in Hong Kong, immigrant to other
	country, say USA, get your USA citizenship, you still
	considere as HK resident.
	Some please confirm if Law in Hong Kong requires Hong Kong
	resident can only use Hong Kong driving license. If this law
	is valid, then she have to apply for Hong Kong driving license.

Ray

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Spring has arrived at Albany. According to weather forecase, we
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