HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hans@smab.se (Hans C Larsson)
Subject: 7.1 and Asante Ethernet card incompatible ?
Organization: Saab Missiles AB, RLD-Gbg, Sweden
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 10:44:29 GMT

I can not get this combination to work, I just get
"There was an error while attempting to change network" or
"The AppleTalk program is obsolete - reinstall AppleTalk"
(or something along these lines).

Has anyone else this combination ?

I also have some trouble with Chesapeake Ethernet cards
(see separate posting).

However, Apple's and Cayman's Gator cards works fine with 7.1
-- 
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        Hans C Larsson			Email:	hans@smab.se
	Saab Missiles, Sweden		Motto:	yes
From: Patrick McClaughry <patrick_mcclaughry@sematech.org>
Subject: XGator info wanted
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78AFC1D1501160E@manzana.eng.sematech.org>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 26 Jan 93 20:33:01 GMT
Organization: SEMATECH
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:30:14 GMT

I know this has passed here before, but I didn't need it then :)
Who produces XGator and how can I reach them?  Are there
competing products?

Thanks,
--Pat
From: aaron@eng.umd.edu (Aaron Falk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: ISO an app to uncompress files with .sea extension
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:11:12 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ampere.src.umd.edu
Originator: aaron@ampere.src.umd.edu



I am in search of an application I can ftp that will uncompress Mac files with the .sea
extension. 

Thanks,

		Aaron Falk


-- 
Aaron D. Falk        			           aaron@src.umd.edu
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From: pw4963@sarah.albany.edu (Peter G. White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Running Xwindows on a remote Sun.
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:28:41 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Albany


I would like to run Xwindows from my mac connected to a sun via a 9600
baud modem link.  What would be necessary. I know I would need MacX, but
how would I make the connection using a modem.  Thanks in advance...

-Peter

_______________________________________________________________________________
Peter White                                Internet:pw4963@uacsc1.albany.edu
State Univ. of New York at Albany          Bitnet:pw4963@albnyvms
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: perm@csd.uu.se (Per Mildner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Printing from CTB vt100 emulator?
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:03:21
Organization: Computing Science Dept.,Uppsala University, Sweden
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: groucho.csd.uu.se

Does anyone know of a way to make the Comm Toolbox VT100 emulator
print when it receives the magic sequence that informs a real VT100
(remember those ?-) to print some of the output to the local printer.
I have tried it with comm toolbox and ClarisWorks but it just appeared
as normal output in the vt100 window. I have contemplated several
possible solutions including:

. Connecting via a U**x program that does the filtering (requires CAP
to print to the AppleTalk printer, and can mean problem for the Telnet
protocol)
. Writing a CTB terminal emulator that simply calls upon the services
of the original vt100 emulator but with additional filtering (I don't
know if this level of customization is possible)
. Reading the manual (least attractive)

Anyone have ideas or a solution?

Thanks in advance,
--
Per Mildner			perm@CSD.UU.SE
Computing Science Dept.		tel: +46 18181049
Uppsala University, Sweden	fax: +46 18521270
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Voice/Modem Switcher
From: Paul Raymond <RBPPJR@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:36:56 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company


In the January 1993 issue of MacWorld, author David Pogue describes how to
get an Appletalk Remote Access connection from a powerbook to a home/office
Mac.  He referred to a voice/modem line switcher.  Apparently this is a device
that allows a modem and a telephone to share one line.  Does anyone know of a
source of this device?  Please reply by posting or by e-mail.  Thank you in
advance.

Paul Raymond
Rohm and Haas Company
rbppjr@rohmhaas.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: maynard@leah.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
Subject: TCP/IP and Ethertalk on same network? (no routing)
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 03:49:01 GMT

I'm interested, in theory, just to see if I understand this stuff. Can one
have one ethernet network---lets say it's standalone so no routing
involved---with box unix boxes and macs on it, and with the unix boxes
sending out TCP/IP, while the macs send out both ethertalk and TCP/IP
packets?

First assume the macs have no TCP/IP. Then it seems to me this should work
because the same packets (with ethernet header/trailer) is being sent out
over the network, but only unix boxes will ever recieve packets addressed
to their ethernet number and likewise for macs. So we will have essentially
two independet and non-interacting nets on the same hardware.

But now let the macs also speak TCP/IP. What I would guess is that an
ethernet packet is shunted out by some machine, and picked up by another
machine---the card in the receiving machine will see it's address in the
ethernet header/trailer of the packet. The card will then strip the
header/trailer and send the packet to the ethernet driver. Now I get
confused---is there something in the stripped ethernet packet that says
it's a TCP/IP packet vs an EtherTalk packet? If so, obviously the ethernet
driver can then shunt it up to the appropriate protocol stack, and things
will work fine. But what form would this marker take?

If the driver cannot distinguish between the two protocol stacks, could one
however put two ethernet cards in each mac, thus having a separate
ethertalk network and TCP/IP over ethernet network? Presumably this would
then work since each card/driver would know to which protocol stack to
shunt its packets---again I'm not interested in routing between the (now
two separate) networks.

Am I essentially correct in this understanding? If someone could post a
rough description of what the Ethernet packet looks like, I would be most
grateful. Is there documentation easily available that discusses these
issues?

Thanks a lot.
Maynard Handley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Edward.Visse@wblab.lu.se (Edward Visse)
Subject: who&when one enters my Mac
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Wallenberg Lab. - University of LUND
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:48:34 GMT

Is there a program that will let me know WHEN someone enters my computer
via internet/appletalk and WHO it is. Both for the appleshare functions and
programms that use a PORT number. For example a program that listens to
certain port numbers and will give me a message as soon as someone enters
that port no.

thanks, Edward
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Subject: Re: (Q) Eudora Serial users - diabling echo?
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA 95131
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:25:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.121042.16729@psg.com> michaelf@psg.com (Michael Fetzer) writes:
>Question: How do I turn off the echo? Basically, I'm in a VMS or unix host,
>and from there telnet to my server,to the SMTP port.
>Even if I turn off echo on the host, the telnet session will still echo! There
>must be a way to turn that off!

The Eudora documentation recommends using srialpop.c which changes the
terminal characteristics so that it no longer echos data.  srialpop.c
should be available at ftp.qualcomm.com or wherever Eudora is made
available.

-- 
Chuck Fisher                                        (800) 359-7997 Work
ncselxsi system administrator                       (415) 964-2819 Home
uucp:  ...!netcom!ncselxsi!fisher
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: alain@linguist.jussieu.fr (Alain de Cheveigne')
Subject: what are the limits of phonenet/appletalk?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Universite Paris VI/Paris VII
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:11:49 GMT

I'm sure these questions have been asked and answered
many times, but I can't find anything in the FAQ list or
archived reports:

- What is the maximum length of a phonenet network?

- How many machines can one put on a derivation (eg several
machines connected on the same wall plug)? 

- How many machines can one put on a single network?  Is this 
number limited by electrical constraints or protocol constraints?
If the latter is the case, is the limit on nodes, or else on 
"appletalk entities" as listed for example by CheckNet?

And finally, in what cases would it be appropriate to split a 
net with a repeater (keeping a single zone), and in what cases 
is a bridge indispensable?

Thanks in advance for any information.


Alain de Cheveigne,
alain@linguist.jussieu.fr
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:13402 comp.sys.mac.system:16611
From: nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu (Paul Nevai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: MacTCP 1.1.1 <=> MacTCP 1.1 (with System 7.1)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:37:48 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pali+@osu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: ops.mps.ohio-state.edu
Originator: nevai@ops.mps.ohio-state.edu

I had this freezing (retry) problem with MacTCP 1.1.1 w System 7.1.

F.Y.I. For the time being I downgraded to MacTCP 1.1 BUT use ONLY AdminTCP 1.1
and never open MacTCP 1.1 directly. Seems to work.

Take care...Paul

Paul Nevai                            nevai@mps.ohio-state.edu
Dept Math - Ohio State University     1-614-292-3317 (Office)
Columbus, Ohio 43210-1174, U.S.A.     1-614-292-1479 (Math Dept Fax)


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: dwade@svcdudes.com
Subject: Re: MicrophonePro: adding new Fonts ?
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:53:12 GMT


	We use an internal bitmapped font.  You could use ResEdit to fudge
the font IDs to switch fonts, but of course that wouldn't be a supported
version, blah, blah, blah and if it breaks and eats your mother it's not
our fault.  But that's the basic idea if you want to play with a copy...
-- 
Doug Wade  /  dwade@svcdudes.com  /   Disclaimer:  It's not official, folks.
From: swalker@mta.ca (Stewart Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Netw. Software Installer 1.3 problems?
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:20:42 GMT
Organization: Mount Allison University
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78D738A96010163@acim.mta.ca>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 28 Jan 93 11: 27:06 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17

ulfis@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Anders Ulfheden)
Using the new network software installer on an LC with Ethernet
is a no-no for me. The Mac bombs if I use the network control
panel thereafter.
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Express Modems: When?
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:53:27 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

lord@andersen.uucp (Bob Lord) writes:

>Does anyone know when the Express Modems from Apple are going to ship?
>Why are they back-ordered?

    Well according to Apple (taken from the front page of this weeks
MacWEEK) the Duo version has already started shipping in LIMITED
quantities. But an Apple employee is quoted in the article as saying
"[Just] because we have officially shipped it doesn't mean you can find
it." 
    As for why there is such a delay, the article goes on to say that
there was a communications problem between Apple and the contractor
resposible for actually assembling the Express Modem. Hopefully they
will start getting them in larger quantity RSN, but your guess is as
good as mine.

-Hades
--
From: reuber@cdv.eri.harvard.edu (Kent Reuber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Need nn-like newsreader
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:00:06 GMT
Organization: Schepens Eye Research Institute
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78434E32E01EB0F@cumngr.eri.harvard.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:09:23 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17

I'm interested in obtaining a Mac Newsreader. I know of three:

            1) Nuntius (currently using)
            2) TheNews
            3) NewsWatcher

I know and like the UNIX newsreader "nn" because it sorts the news 
by threads. Does anyone have any suggestions?

Because I'm running System 7.1 with 32-bit addressing, compatibility
and stability are very important.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: mac .ps on a NeXT printer? Pleas(e)!?
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:41:31 GMT

Display PostScript only includes the "standard 13" fonts.  You
need to obtain [purchase] "Adobe Plus Pack for NeXT" which gives
you the "standard 35N" needed for Apple LaserWriter II
compatibility.  Educational pricing is available.  The additional
fonts take up less than 4MB on disk.  If you have a large NeXT
installation, you can obtain a multi-system license direct from
Adobe.

[You still need macps]

					-=EPS=-
From: jasons@bmc.uu.se (Jason E Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Need nn-like newsreader
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:16:04 GMT
Organization: Dept of Med Gen
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mac4.medgen.uu.se

In article <1993Jan21.160006.14223@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu>,
reuber@cdv.eri.harvard.edu (Kent Reuber) wrote:
> 
> I'm interested in obtaining a Mac Newsreader. I know of three:
> 
>             1) Nuntius (currently using)
>             2) TheNews
>             3) NewsWatcher
> 
> I know and like the UNIX newsreader "nn" because it sorts the news 
> by threads. Does anyone have any suggestions?
> 
> Because I'm running System 7.1 with 32-bit addressing, compatibility
> and stability are very important.

The deciding factor for me to switch from Nuntius to NewsWatcher was that I
read news at work and at home, and since I don't feel like re-reading news
all the time my news program needs to access a central .newsrc. The author
of Nuntius replied that he didn't have any plans to incorporate such a
feature, so I switched to NewsWatcher which already had it built-in.

Word of warning from John Norstad himself:

# Please note that this is a DEVELOPMENT version of the program, not a
finished 
# product (in fact, it's not even beta yet!). Many features planned for
version 
# 1.3 final are not yet implemented. There are many known problems and
errors in 
# the current version which have not yet been fixed. You can expect
existing 
# features to change as the development process continues. If you require 
# perfection or stability in your software, DO NOT USE THIS PROGRAM!

# I strongly advise against widespread distribution of this program to
novice 
# users within your organization. Wait for version 1.3 final.

# Please do not redistribute this program on other public file servers,
bulletin 
# boards, or Internet archive sites. Wait for 1.3 final.

# If you do use the program, please also fetch and read the following
documents 
# from ftp.acns.nwu.edu, directory pub/newswatcher:

# User Doc: Basic instructions for using the program.
# To Do: To do list for version 1.3 final.
# Wish List: Wish list for possible future versions.
# Mod History: A detailed history of all the changes made to the program.

Good luck,

Jason

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Jason Stewart    	                      Father at large
Department of Medical Genetics
jasons@bmc.uu.se
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:13473 comp.sys.mac.misc:22364
From: dmeyers@mal-s2.gatech.edu (Dave Meyers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Need general help with MacX
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:30:10 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Georgia Tech Res. Inst./Modeling & Analysis Lab

In <1993Jan27.143040.29080@uc.msc.edu> doherty@msc.edu (David C. Doherty) writes:

>Jeepers, there seem to be a lot of people out there who have misplaced
>their MacX manuals.  I'd suggest that you might call (800)366-9622 and see
>if Apple can arrange to send another. The answer is on page 62.

No need to be huffy.

SOME of us are using it on a site license and have little
or no support from our local computing department.

Of course, with Apples new pricing scheme, no organization in
its right mind will be using the current version on a site
license.

I will refrain from naming any Institutions...

--David

-- 
-- -- -- David S. Meyers (dmeyers@math.gatech.edu) -- -- --
= "If all the 'death rates' were added up, we'd find that =
= we're all actually dead -- twice."  -- Dennis Novak     =
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: cs000rjp@selway.umt.edu (Russell J. Pagenkopf)
Subject: Re: LocalTalk mail to SMTP gateway info?
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:56:27 GMT

>Neil K. Guy (neilg@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:
>:  I'm interested in setting up a LocalTalk (perhaps Ethertalk in the
>: future) network with local email and links to the outside world. I'm
>: considering QuickMail, MS Mail or cc mail, and I'd like to know if
>: anyone has any experiences using various gateway products (such as
>: StarNine's) to link a local mail server to the Internet using MacTCP
>: and SMTP. Comments on local mail products would be appreciated also. I
>

Another option that you didn't mention is MacPost. It is an e-mail program
written by the Lund University Computing Center in Sweden. We are running
it here in the J-School and really like it. We do not yet have a
connection outside our building and onto the campus backbone yet or I'd be
sending this with MacPost. MacPost is a IMHO very well writtten program,
very professional, and the support is great. There are several major
universities using it around the U.S. (I don't have my list here, or I
list a few) and they are pleased with it as well.

MacPost can be run on just an AppleTalk network (what we have) or it can
be tied to an ethernet link using SMTP. I don't think there is anyone who is
using a SLIP connection yet but I'd be willing to bet that it can be done. 

Finally (geez this looks like a commercial ;-) ), and probably best of
all, MacPost is FREE. Yep, and the support is great (I know, I said that
already) and the product is continually being upgraded, not to fix bugs
but to implement feature and suggestions from its' users. Thats what I
call technical support :-). The official FTP site for MacPost is:
Internet: macpost@ldc.lu.se
Bitnet:   macpost@selund

or you can get it from Sumex.

Obviously I am a very happy user of this program, and I would have no
problem recommending it to anyone looking for and E-mail program.



-- 
  Russ Pagenkopf	                          cs000rjp@selway.umt.edu
 School of Journalism, University of Montana         cs__rjp@lewis.umt.edu
<There is no other wisdom, and no other hope for us but that we grow wise.>
From: Mike.Alexander@umich.edu (Mike Alexander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Coexistence of LocalTalk and Ethernet MacTCP on Mac
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:45:01 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - ITD Research Systems
NNTP-Posting-Host: tavistock.isdn.umich.edu

In Article <1993Jan22.054028.11453@tigger.jvnc.net>,
aggarwal@tigger.jvnc.net (Vikas Aggarwal) wrote:
>Now, I would like that for AppleTalk, my mac uses the LocalTalk
>connection and for TCP/IP, my mac uses the ethernet directly.
>
>That cuts down my dependence on the gatorbox entirely.
>
>can I do this ? And if so, how would I configure my AppleTalk and my
>MacTCP (I think NCSA doesn't care if the MacTCP drivers are doing their
>job and properly configured) ?

Sure, that works fine if you want to do it that way.  Just use the
Network control panel to configure AppleTalk to use the "built in"
interface and configure MacTCP with its control panel to use the
ethernet card.  I do this sometimes on my machine, although I usually
use EtherTalk for AppleTalk access.

>(pushing my luck here).. Is there a way for the LocalTalk macs to use
>my Mac as a gateway to the TCP/IP hosts also in case the gatorbox goes
>down ?

Not without buying some more software at least.

>lastly, can I configure my mac so that EtherTalk macs can access my
>mac via the ethernet card, localtalk macs access me via the localtalk
>interface and ethernet TCP/IP hosts access me via the ethernet all
>at the same time ?

I don't think so.  At any given moment, AppleTalk on your machine will
either be using EtherTalk or the builtin interface.  I don't think
there is any way to get it to use both at the same time.

Mike Alexander              Internet:       Mike.Alexander@umich.edu
University of Michigan      America Online: MAlexander
ITD - Research Systems      AppleLink:      UMICH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: What's the best AppleShare file server?
From: kenw@skyler.arc.ab.ca (Ken Wallewein)
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:49:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.sys
Organization: K&M Systems
In-reply-to: rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com's message of Sat, 16 Jan 1993 05:21:42 GMTLines: 21

  That was an excellent response.  Thank you.

  It's interesting that no one has even mentioned VMS/Pathworks-based
servers.  I've never seen one that performs acceptably in my opinion; I've
always attributed that to overhead in dealing with RMS et al.  However, I
must admit I haven't had first-hand experience with a recent release of the
software running on one of the faster CPUs.

  As a side note: in the even that one were forced to use a Macintosh-based
file server, what is the fastest possible configuration?  How about a
Quadra 950 with third-party SCSI-2 interfaces to the disk drives, and
third-party Ethernet interfaces?  Would a really large RAM cache help?

/kenw
--
/kenw  (as me)

Ken Wallewein
kenw@noah.arc.ab.ca
(403) 274-7848
From: Ralph.Martin@cm.cf.ac.uk (Ralph Martin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Coexisting Ethernet and Ethertalk
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:02:01 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78AD8AEFF012AC7@ralph.cm.cf.ac.uk>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 26 Jan 93 12:01:50 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17

In article <C1Evnn.BpL@compsci.liverpool.ac.uk> Dr. R.J. Beynon,
beynonrj@uxb.liv.ac.uk writes:
>On the subject of coexisting ethertalk and ethernet - could I
>achieve this by the simple expedient of having two ethernet cards in
>my mac?

Why do you want two cards? The built-in hardware on my Quadra does just
fine with only one interface, and other Macs here do fine with just one
card. Or are you running two physical cables, one for EtherTalk, and one
for other protocols? The latter certainly isn't necessary!

Ralph
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Subject: Re: AppleTalk over SLIP? How?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:04:55 GMT

amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker) writes:

>maynard@tamar.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:
>>Is it possible to run AppleTalk over SLIP?

>No.  SLIP only works with IP.  You *could* run AppleTalk over PPP,
>which can handle multiple protocols, but there are no products for
>the Mac which can support this yet.

You can run AppleTalk over SLIP if you use David Hornsby's IPRemote.
You basically need a Unix box as an AppleTalk packet forwarder which
runs the server end and the IPRemote adev runs on your Mac. It's ugly,
but it works.

pr
-- 
Pete Resnick             (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu