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From: mlm@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael McCool)
Subject: Re: BIG movie list!!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: CSO Resource Center
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:57:03 GMT

Jeff Frazier (frazier@elf.etsu.edu) wrote:
: boisvert@yaya.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert) writes:
:> donnell@mantaray.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
:>
:>>How about "Boris and Natasha" with Sally Kellerman?
:>
:>	This was not released to the theaters because of some financial
:>problems with the studio.  I read in a comics magazine that it was shown on 
:>Showtime, but I can't confirm this.  (They had a photo from the film with Dave
:>"Bob and Doug McKenzie" Thomas playing Boris).  I don't think there is a video
:>release yet.  Anyway, the movie is done - you just won't get to see it at the
:>theater.
:>
:It was shown on Showtime during the summer.  I never watched it though.
:
:Jeff Frazier (frazier@elf.etsu.edu)
: 

I did... I dunno, it was okay.  There were some funny scenes.

Hardly horror, though... All things considered, Bullwinkle was a lot funnier...
	--MLM

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From: MANEJWZA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ()
Subject: Halloween 6?
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 07:01:01 GMT
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	I have been waiting three years or more for this to no avail.  I have
personally spoken to Moustapha Akkad's secretary about it but she doesn't know
anything.

				
	Oh how they blew a lot of horror thrillers away.  (with the exception
of Halloween III)

							-Z-

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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Any PHANTASM fans out there?
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:12:15 GMT

I especially enjoy the silver ball scenes .... 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: Re: Friday the 13th part XIII
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:28:32 GMT

In article <37300@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> dh1@springs.cis.ufl.edu (Daniel Hay) writes:
>From: dh1@springs.cis.ufl.edu (Daniel Hay)
>Subject: Re: Friday the 13th part XIII
>Date: 9 Oct 92 19:49:46 GMT

>I always assumed that seeing Jason as a little boy means
>that the evil has finally left him and he can rest
>in peace.
>Course, that makes part 9 a little hard to start, but
>we'll see.
>*****Daniel

Part 9 will start from where part 7 left.  So, forget about part 8.

The release date has been pushed to August 13, 1993.  The movie still doesn'
t have a title.

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From: donnell@shamu.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: the keep - continues?
Organization: none
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:33:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.171130.25875@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> ken@austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>#I believe the keep was directed by Michael Mann, shortly before he did
>#"Manhunter"/"Red Dragon" and went to TV to create "Miami Vice".
>
>Actually, it goes:
>
>-Thief
>-The Keep
>-Miami Vice
>-Manhunter
>
>etc. up to "Last of the Mohicans." There's probably a couple of other
>films I left out (A TV movie called "L.A. Takedown" and I think he had
>some part in "Band of the Hand").
>
>I wish he'd make another movie like "The Keep."
>
>=============================================================
>THIS POSTING DOES NOT REPRESENT THE OPINIONS OF MY EMPLOYERS.
>-------------------------------------------------------------
>"The killer awoke before dawn, he put his clown shoes on, and
>             he ... flopped on down the hall..."
>=============================================================

According to a recent Video Watchdog discussion of "Manhunter", Mann
definately finished the film before he created Miami Vice. It was
released after, I believe.

					--Judex--

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From: smaus@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Maus)
Subject: Re: King works
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:08:00 GMT

mch@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Mark C. Henderson) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.125527.10187@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00pahill@bsu-ucs.uucp wr
tes:
>>There was a STephen King short storyclaled Word processor of the Gods t
at
>>appeared on the show "Tales of the Darkside" he also has one on the Tal
s from
>>the Darkside" movie that is totally cool.


>I think (I'm not completely sure on this) that Starmont House publishes
>a King bibliography which should give you a complete list of short
>stories and novels.

>I don't know their phone number off hand, but their in the U.S. 
>(Mercer Island, WA), so directory assistance for AC 206 should be able 
>to help you if you want to contact them. 

>(usual disclaimer: I have no affiliation with Starmont House whatsoever
>except as an occasional customer).

>Mark
>-- 
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 2W4
>Internet:   markh@wimsey.bc.ca, mch@sq.com
>UUCP: {van-bc,sq}!sqwest!mch Telephone: +1 604 585 8394  Fax: +1 604 585
1926
>RIPEM public key available by Email or finger markh@wimsey.bc.ca
I believe the name of the book you are thinking of is called The Shape
Under the Sheets, or something like that! And it only costs $100 for that
book!

Here are a few books that are CHEAPER and would help you out:
1
1) THE STEPHEN KING COMPANION edited by George Beahm  COST: $10.95

2) KINGDOM OF FEAR edited by Tim Underwood & Chuck Miller   COST: $3.95

3) FEAR ITSELF edited by Underwood & Miller     COST: $3.95

and finally, STEPHEN KING: THE ART OF DARKNESS by Douglas Winter  COST: $15

All of the books listed above gives descriptions of King's works, articles
that have appeared in magazines and newspapers and I have all 4 books and
would recommend that all King fans add these books to their library!!

HAPPY READING AND SEEKING!!
Scott

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: New Movies (Friday the 13th, Anne Rice, Stephen King)
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:35:43 GMT

In <1atd3oINNsbo@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu) writes:


> > Anne Rice is working on a script of a remake of Bride of
> > Frankenstein.  She may write a novel also.  The Witching Hour is to
> > be directed by Richard Donner.

>What?  First they butcher this concept with THE BRIDE (you remember -- the
>one with Sting?).... and now they want to have Anne Rice make a version of
>it?  I dunno about you, but I don't think anyone really ever intended the
>Bride of Frankenstein story as an ABC miniseries-of-the-week...

Oh, I don't feel that badly about The Bride.  I thought , despite the
presence of Sting, the film did a reasonable job of playing with the
audience's fascination/repulsion towards the monstrous.  I
particularly liked the reasonable success they had in shifting the the
monstrous from Frankenstein's creation to Frankenstein himself.
Perhaps this detracts from the promethean aspects of the original
story but I particularly like the play of empathy in horror.  I
haven't found another adaptation that strives to accomplish this.  If
you have, perhaps you could pass them on.

Ian

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He had a dream!

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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Chilly Billy
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:12:34 GMT

In article Aer9zh200WC0QCa1xP@andrew.cmu.edu, "Francis J. Yenca" <fy03+@andrew.cmu.edu> () writes:
> Laurel writes:
> 
> >>>I invited them in for tea of course (they were very rude, though, they must
> >>>have been hungry!).
> >>
> >>What kind of tea do you serve zombies?
> >>(Just so I can learn the proper etiquette--or alternately, to know
> >>what type of tea to look forward to should I ever become a zombie)
> >>Frank (who usually favors creatures other than zombies, but
> >>just might happen to get mistaken for one at times)
> >
> >
> >I gave them Lipton tea. They don't go for the fancy kinds, but if you become a
> >zombie, I'll give you Chamomile...
> 
> You know, I would really like to respond to this, but I don't know what 
> "Chamomile" is.
> 
> Does this mean that I should want to become a zombie? ;)
> 
> Frank


chamomile is an herb that is usually used in the making of tea.. its most common property is teh relief of stress... and helps one to sleep and recover.. it is very helpful when one is sick ... 

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
---------------------------------------------------------------
From: ugabarra@mcl.ucsb.edu (Il Viaggiatore)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Frightening Halloween ideas wanted
Date: 8 Oct 92 06:08:51 GMT

I would be _VERY_ interested in the types of ideas you get..  Living in 
Isla Vista, halloween is a big thing, and I might try to talk one of my
friends into throwing a party outside his house, with the inside being a
haunted house..  Basically, you go through the house to get to the party..
If you could send me the even some of the ideas you get, I would greatly 
appreciate it..  Thanx in advance..

cya l8r >8=;==;==---'

Il VIaggiatore

Waht you call hell, he calls a children's story!

Cthluhu

(ugabarra@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu)
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From: brackney@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Larry J Brackney)
Subject: Re: Candyman
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:24:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.135343.16789@moci.uucp> @moci.uucp writes:
>lorenzo@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Eric J. Lorenzo) writes:
>: ...[about the film "Candyman"]...   
>: Also having a local sneak preview here on
>: Thursday night at midnight, I kind of want to get an idea of what I'm going
>: to have to wait in line for.  Clive Barker was also mentioned in the 
>: commerical, what role did he have in the making of this film?  Thanks in
>: advance.
>
>Hi Eric.  As I recall, the "Candyman" was a resurrected psycho in Barker's
>book "The Damnation Game", responsible for at least one very disturbing
>act of cannabalism (don't read on a full stomach! :-).
>
>Unfortunately, I can't tell you a thing about the film.  I'm hoping they
>didn't just take the Candyman out of the story's context to make a 
>slasher flick, though.  Please post a review (with the spoilers separated
>out!) when you see the movie, I'm curious about this one as well.  Thanks!

   Actually, Candyman is based upon a story in Barker's Books of Blood
entitled "The Forbidden."  The story was quite good.  I've seen two ads
for the movie, one made it look like a fairly faithful adaptation. (Yeah!)
The other made it look like typical Hollywood schlock.  (Say his name five
times and die or some such nonsense.)

   Just from a few glimpses in the commercials - the sets seem to be on
the mark, and the character design is the same.  I'm anxious to see it.
(Maybe it will wash the bad taste HR3 left in my mouth.)

   - larry

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From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Any PHANTASM fans out there?
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:47:42 GMT
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Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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Great flicks...Angus Scrimm is delightful as the alien mortician.  Sort
of reminds me a bit of John Carradine.  I love the scene in #1 where
the kid brings home Angus' severed finger only to have it turn into a
rather larger than normal house fly.  Lots of scares and chuckles....
From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Tale of the Body Theif
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:01:47 GMT
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY

no spoilers here, folks.

I'm about half way through this one right now, and as soon as i'm done
I'll post a review.  But just to give some initial reactions, its much
different than the previous works.  the initial two instalments of the
Vampire Chronicles were life stories, the third a world-spanning epic.
this fourth book centers around Lestat (again.  Personally, I've
always perfered Louis.) and an (apparently) isolated event in his
immortal "life."  lestat makes clear in his introduction to the book
that few other vampires would appear in his tale, making this book an
oddity in itself.  
  As usual Anne Rice delivers her sensual porse style and
characterization with class, but now her work seems very
self-reverential.  her preivous books are mentioned over and over
again throughout the novel, which (to me) interupts the flow of
things.
  However, it has hooked my interest in its story, something the Queen
of the Damned and The Witching Hour never managed to do until the last
100 pages or so.  this one did the trick in about 50.  I should be
done with this by weeks end, but for now an initial "thumbs up'
  

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From: m13079@mwunix (Mary Anne Walters)
Subject: Clive Barker's new book
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:35:14 GMT

Just FYI -- Clive Barker's new book, _The Thief of Always_ is due out in
November.  Here, without permission, is an excerpt from the review in
the most recent Publishers Weekly:

(Credited to Sybil Steinberg)

In a tale that manages to be both cute and horrifying, bestselling novelist
and screenwriter Barker puts the dark side back into childhood fantasy,
recalling the violent undercurrents of the Grimm Brothers' tales and other
classics.  When archetypal 10-year-old Harvey Swick desperately wishes to
be delivered from a boring February afternoon, he is miraculously rescued
by Rictus, a smiling (if somewhat sinister) creature.  Rictus takes Harvey
to the Holiday House, where every morning is spring, every afternoon is
summer and every evening offers Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas in
quick succession....Barker's own illustrations convey the story's deceptively
sweet appeal....this fable lives up to the publisher's billing as a tale for
all ages.

 
--
--Mary Anne  
"What we have once enjoyed and deeply loved we can never lose, for all
that we love deeply becomes a part of us."  Helen Keller
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From: frantz@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: re: Frightening Halloween Ideas wanted
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:48:37 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

You mentioned that "hell" is the theme for you room but you can't use fire. 
 I wouldn't use fire anyway--I'd use cold.  All the best images of hell 
that I've read have employed the sensation of intense cold.  Can you rig up 
an air conditioner and set it on high for several hours before the haunted 
house is scheduled to open?  Maybe use a fogger to enhance the notion of 
"burning cold"?

I might also encourage you to look toward the classic images of purgatory 
for some frightening extras.  The whole concept of having to do something 
over and over with no end in sight is scary as hell, I think.  Then again, 
I don't know if a haunted house is the place for subtlety.
Andrea @ BVC

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: demes@chopin.udel.edu (James A Demes)
Subject: Re: King works
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:41:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.195913.25945@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca> mch@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Mark C. Henderson) writes:
>I think (I'm not completely sure on this) that Starmont House publishes
>a King bibliography which should give you a complete list of short
>stories and novels.

Yes, they do (or did) publish this, but it's very out of date (5 years
maybe).  Try the new STPEHN KING ENCYCLOPEDIA - it's a lot bigger, updated
to 1992, and has EVERYTHING you ever wanted to know.
(And some things you didn't...)

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From: donnell@mantaray.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Salem's Lot
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:56:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.145659.6410@pellns.alleg.edu> twiddyd@quig11.alleg.edu (David Twiddy) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.220429.16883@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
>jbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James S Brown) writes:
>> But about Salem's Lot, I think the standard complaints about  book-movie 
>> conversions holds true here--people who love the book (any book) can  
>usually 
>> expect to be disappointed by the movie, if only by the differences  
>between the 
>> director's vision and their own.  Agree, disagree, examples?
>> -- 
>> Jim Brown [jbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu]
>> OSU English Dept.
>> Columbus, OH  43210                 Like Woody sez:  Take it easy--but  
>take it.
>> 614-292-6065
>	No, the movie was dumb, period.  The scariest part in it was when  
>the jealous ex-boyfriend jumped the hero, whose name I can't remember, and  
>that part had nothing to do with vampires.
>--
>
>David "master of obscurity" Twiddy <twiddyd@alleg.edu>
>"Small wheel turn by the fire and rod
> Big wheel turn by the Grace of GOD"
> 			-Jerry Garcia

I don't know about that. I thought the best part of the movie was when the
kid being buried sat up and hissed at Mark Petrie. As I recall this was the
break between the two parts.
I liked the movie, barring the obvious steal from "Nosferatu".
Interestingly, Larry Cohen was asked to be the writer for "Salems Lot',
and although they turned his script down, they kept his idea about making
the vampire look like Count Orlock. Cohen was given the title "Return To
Salems Lot" and creative control. Wisely, he avoids any connection with
King, and creates his own tale. Other than the title, it's pretty good.
Cohen did better work with the "It's Alive" films, "God Told Me To", 
"Black Caesar", and "Q", but I still like "RTSL".
]
					--Judex--
From: mars@carroll1.cc.edu (Sean Tyler Mars)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Help: Haunted House
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:24:30 GMT
Organization: Carroll College-Waukesha, WI


	I have a question for any of you horror fans out there.  We are
building a haunted house and I am looking for good ideas for rooms.  Our 
budget is not very big, and that is why I would like to be creative.   

	I would like to work on the theme that the rooms would be scary
just to be in, and then add people to hype it up.  

	I would appreciate any ideas for rooms, sound effects, mazes, etc.

Thanks,
Sean T. Mars
mars@carroll1.cc.edu
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Wanted:Complete list of Stephen King novels etc.
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:02:20 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Oct8.012305.16809@cs.tulane.edu> jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Grizabella) writes:
>
>In article <seaverw.38.0@columbia.dsu.edu>, seaverw@columbia.dsu.edu (W. A. Seaver) writes:
>> In article <6912@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:
>> >Screenplays:"Cat's Eye", "Creepshow", "Silver Bullet" (and as usual there
>> may>be others, but I am doing this with no list in front of me).
>> Hey, does anyone remember this one that just popped into my mind? Didn't SK
>> write an episode of the revamped "Twilight Zone" back around '85 or so? I
>> think it was called "Gramma," and involved a kid who had to stay home alone
>I don't remember the exact name, but it seems like it was "The woman in
>the room", or something to that effect. I do know that it was one of the
>last short stories in the book in either Night Shift or Skeleton Crew.
>Meow...
>----Grizabella---.aka.---Misti D. Jordan-----------jordan@cs.tulane.edu----

Misti, I just re-read "The Woman in the Room" and it is about a man who is
contemplating the mercy-killing of his (very ill) mother. Me and my 2 cents
worth are at it again!
			Laurel

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From: rjb@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Ryszard Boryna)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Salem's Lot
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:29:10 GMT
Reply-To: rjb@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., University of Reading


In article 16883@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, jbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James S Brown) writes:
> A lot of my friends, including people who (quite rightly, I think) love the 
> book, hate the movie. 
> 
> But about Salem's Lot, I think the standard complaints about  book-movie 
> conversions holds true here--people who love the book (any book) can usually 
> expect to be disappointed by the movie, if only by the differences between the 
> director's vision and their own.  Agree, disagree, examples?

Which version are we talking about here?  As I remember, the film is a 
chopped-down two-part TV series ( two-part series? ), hence its very 
`bitty' feel.  It's been a few years since I saw the TV version, but I can remember it being very good whereas the film I saw recently was very poor compared to the 
book.  It had a total lack of depth and moved much too fast.

Ryszard.