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From: mboom@ntg.com (Mike Boom)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: SPERM and CD-ROMS
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:22:06 GMT
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

mcnair@slab.unt.edu (SEAN MCNAIR) writes:
>     I recently fell out of bed while I was having some intense sex with my 
> girlfriend and spermed on some CD-ROMS I have. I didn't get a chane to wash 
> them off for three weeks! Soemtimes these CDs skip in the reader. Is this 
> due to the sperm, or could it be something else?

It must be that the sperm have penetrated the plastic and have filled the
pits in the aluminum substrate.  A plastic penetrating spermicide will of
course clear up the problem.  The real question is why you have CD-ROMs
lying around the bed, and how you can leave them unprotected in this day
of unsafe sex.

Mike Boom
Toxic Screen Dumps, Inc.  (a nonsubsidiary of New Technologies Group)
From: pjs@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Peter John Swiatkowski)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: CD-ROM standards
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:47:09 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

I've read the CD-ROM FAQ on cd-rom.com and I'm still a bit confused about
few basic issues on the Yellow Book standard, and I'm hoping some helpful
soul will clarify things for me.

Specifically:

Mode-1 is for computer data.
Mode-2 is for compressed audio and Video/picture data.

CD-ROM/XA allows for interleaving of mode-1 and mode-2 data, I think.

Do all CD-ROM drives support both mode-1 and mode-2?

Or is mode-2 only relevant on XA compliant drives?

Is it only the capability of interleaving and decoding both data type that
makes a CD-ROM drive XA compliant?

Thanks,
Peter Switakowski
University of Melbourne
Victoria, Australia
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: danisch@ira.uka.de (Hadmut Danisch )
Subject: Photo-CD-Dekoder posted
Reply-To: danisch@ira.uka.de
Organization: Univ. Karlsruhe
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:54:44 GMT

A lot of people were asking me for the
source of the Photo-CD to PPM converter.

I have posted it to alt.sources.

Hadmut


Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: cd-rom@WINONA.MWC.COM ("", Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re:      Reading audio CD in CDROM drive
Reply-To: "(Michael L. Kaufman)" <cd-rom@WINONA.MWC.COM>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 09:57:57 GMT

"(Nik Shaylor)" <nshaylor@FABCAB.DEMON.CO.UK> writes:
>Can anyone tell me if it is possible to read the binary data on a normal
>audio CD with a SBPro/Panasonic CDROM combination.

I can tell you. It's not possible.

Michael
From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: cdrom use survey on intel
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:18:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 

JC>i am working on the cd-rom/optic drivers on svr3/svr4 unix.
JC>i am interested in what cdrom users under unix are using cdrom for.
JC>data(iso9660), multimedia, photocd? business or pleasure? audio?
JC>home grown applications or commercial products for access?

We have a Electronic Component database on CD-ROM that includes both 
searchable index and images of databooks, called CAPS. We have written
our own SCSI drivers for SUN OS and Sony and Hitachi drivers for SCO UNIX.

We would be interested in what you are doing, especially in the area of
drivers. You can call me at 408 255-4900.
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 . KingQWK 1.05 # 141 . 
               
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: pererik@cmi.no (Per-Erik Nordbo)
Subject: Photo-CD-R and write software
Organization: Christian Michelsen Research a/s
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 11:22:06 GMT

>From my point of view there is one thing lacking in the Photo-CD concept. I would like to write back images which I may have 1) created synthetically or 2) read from Photo-CD and modified in image processing tools.

All you need is Photo-CD-R(ecorder) whith additional write software.The coast of a Photo-CD-R player used in the photo-laboratories is expected to cost $1000 - $2000 when volume shipping starts.

Windows and Finder will support Photo-CD READING. Does anybody know whether Kodak will provide software that will allow us to WRITE to Photo-CD-R?

-- 
Per Erik Nordboe, Christian Michelsen Research, Norway pererik@cmr.no
From: brueni@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Dennis Brueni)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: xcdplayer on svr4
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:19:46 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

I apologize if this if FAQ, but...  

I now have my CD-ROM drive working on an OKIStation running AT&T 
System V/i860, Release 4 unix.  I am wondering if anyone has ported 
xcdplayer (or something similar) to AT&T SVR4 unix and where to find 
the source code.

Thanks in advance.

-- 
--Dennis Brueni (N0JSQ)        "The knack to flying lies in learning 
  brueni@csgrad.cs.vt.edu       how to throw yourself at the ground 
  <Project_Envision>            and miss."  -- Douglas Adams
Xref: sparky alt.cd-rom:3695 comp.os.os2.programmer:5711
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: os/2 cd-rom driver
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:15:14 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

I today saw in Computer Shopper an ad for a Mitsumi CDROM with an IDE
interface for $200.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
[.sig on vacation]
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: dmatiske@larson.helios.nd.edu (David Matiskella)
Subject: Re: SPERM and CD-ROMS
Followup-To: alt.cd-rom
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:23:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.182206.1519@ntg.com>, mboom@ntg.com (Mike Boom)
wrote:
> 
> mcnair@slab.unt.edu (SEAN MCNAIR) writes:
> >     I recently fell out of bed while I was having some intense sex with my 
> > girlfriend and spermed on some CD-ROMS I have. I didn't get a chane to wash 
> > them off for three weeks! Soemtimes these CDs skip in the reader. Is this 
> > due to the sperm, or could it be something else?
> 
> It must be that the sperm have penetrated the plastic and have filled the
> pits in the aluminum substrate.  A plastic penetrating spermicide will of
> course clear up the problem.  The real question is why you have CD-ROMs
> lying around the bed, and how you can leave them unprotected in this day
> of unsafe sex.
> 
> Mike Boom
> Toxic Screen Dumps, Inc.  (a nonsubsidiary of New Technologies Group)
		But if they are in the case how could he use them while having sex? After
all when they are in the case thier is no hole :)
Xref: sparky alt.cd-rom:3627 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc:2610
From: lothar@cyrcle.uucp (Bob Trembley)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: High-Pitched whine from SB Pro CD-Rom
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 23:13:52 EDT
Reply-To: lothar@angus.mi.org
Organization: Cyrcle Systems

I have a SoundBlaster Pro with its internal CD-ROM Drive.  When no Audio
CD is playing, and I have the CD volume setting in the Windows-based SB
Pro Mixer very high, I get an annoying high-pitched whine coming out of
my little desktop speakers.  This is especially noticeable when I have
a windowed DOS shell visible with large amounts of text scrolling.

Is this normal?  Should I get one of those round ferrite cores and wrap
it around my speaker cable just outside of the SB Pros jack?  Any
suggestions?

--==>>BobT>
From: ST21519@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: $160 CDROM drive from CompuAdd
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:22:05 GMT
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY

>This is the cheapo Matsushita drive, I'll bet.  The CompuAdd price is $169.
>We have one of those obtained from a different vendor.  The access time is
>850ms, which ain't great.  On the other hand, the price is right, it includes
>a controller and cabling and a headphone jack and a volume control and
>software.  I guess I'd say that it's a great choice if you want something
 
Can we assume it is caddyless?  Can you daisy chain a couple off the one
controller?
Xref: sparky alt.cd-rom:3713 comp.periphs:1400
From: sklower@ic.Berkeley.EDU (Keith Sklower)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.periphs
Subject: Re: CD-WORM (Was: Re: "Erasable" CD-ROMs)
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:40:20 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley

In article <1992Oct8.181901.11308@smsc.sony.com> dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott) writes:
>
>The October 1992 issue of Electronic Musician has an article on
>recordable CD technology.
>	Sonic Solutions		Sonic System DAW	$20,000+
>	Sonic Solutions		SonicStation DAW	 $5,000
>	Sonic Solutions		CD-200 CD printer	 $9,750
>	Sonic Solutions		TrackMaker software	   $895
>
>Sony is conspicuously absent from this list.

Owning one of these puppies and having seen the others I can 'splain:

The CD-200 CD printer is the Sony CDW-900E  (There, is that better?)

The $20,000+ plus item, I assume is either its predecessors, which
was a 2 part system, one that formatted, and one that wrote the actual
disks, or the sonic Digital Audio Workstation, by the time you
get a reasonable comprehensive set of options.

The $5,000 item is the combination of the processor card, and entry
level software.  (You need to go out and by a mac and a large capacity
scsi disk in addition to that, which Sonic will do everything it can
to persuade you to buy from them since everybody implements SCSI
just a little bit differently).

The TrackMaker software is not necessary unless you want to do
sampling rate conversion (48 - 44.1) or you want the sony pressing
plant in Terre Haute to manufacture directly from your CD-OnceWritten.
(The programmable memory area contains the PQ burst as audio, which
if you play it on a serial line which look just like 4800 baud EBCDIC)

Electronic musician is likely to be of interest to music people rather
than computer nerds, and I believe that there was a marketing agreement
that Sony itself would sell the CDW-900E for CD-ROM uses, and Sonic
would sell it for music use.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: jblatt@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Blatt)
Subject: What are some good CD sources?
Originator: jblatt@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 21:17:54 GMT

	I just got a CD-ROM and I'm interested in
finding out about some good sources of CD software.

	Any one have any preferences?  Please send your
replies to me and I will compile them and post it.

jeffski
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: casavant@elmer.orl.mmc.com (John Casavant)
Subject: Toshiba 3301A problem with drivers in DOS
Organization: Martin Marietta
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:36:36 GMT

I am trying to attach a Toshiba 3301A CD-ROM to my NEC 486/33 EISA PC, but	
can not get it to work in DOS.  I have an ADAPTEC 1740 SCSI controller in the
4th EISA slot at D000H, all the drivers seem to load, but when I try to	
access the CD-ROMs logical drive the PC hangs. The controller is SCSI id 7,
and the CD-ROM is SCSI id 2.  Windows 3.1 can access the CD-ROM through 
media player(eject disk, etc), but filemanger choaks.

In my config.sys I load:
DEVICE=ASPIEDOS.SYS /d
DEVICE=ASWCDTSH.SYS /D:CDROM
LASTDRIVE=K:

and in my aytoexec.bat I load:
MSCDEX.EXE /D:CDROM /M:10 /L:I

The ASWCDTSH.SYS says it is for a toshiba 3201B, but is the only toshiba
driver with the ASW-410 drivers.
The Toshiba CD-ROM is a HP A1999A (Hewlett Packard OEM), and came with the 
Appollo 843 workstation.

Heres the strange thing....
I have a pre-beta release on Microsoft Windows-NT, and the install from the
CD-ROM worked fine, and I can access the CD-ROM when in Win-NT.  
After I tried to get the drive to in DOS and Windows 3.1, I gave the NT install 
a try and found out it worked with the CD-ROM drive.  The AHA17XX.SYS driver
that shipped with Windows NT will not work in DOS.

What am I doing wrong here??? 


John Casavant
/---------------------\
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: RFowler@kelvin.jpl.nasa.gov (Robert A. Fowler)
Subject: Re: Sound Bastard Pro whining
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:40:00 GMT

In article <01GPZ620591CA8C40S@CSMCMVAX.BITNET> GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.BITNET writes:

>        I have a SB pro card without the CD, and it does whine, often
>modulated by screen or disk activity.  The inside of a PC is an extremely
>noisy place EMI wise.  I doubt that all the ferrite beads and capacitors

Try runing set-vol /m:15 /c:0 (turn off the amplification of the 
unterminated CD input), and the whine will go away (it did for me).

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From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Kodak Photo-CD price gouging
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:31:31 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

Ross Oliver writes:
> I have been collecting information about Kodak's Photo-CD service, and
> yesterday made a disturbing discovery.  I asked the local photo shop
> (who offers Photo-CD service) if it were possible to make duplicates
> of existing Photo-CDs (to give to friends, family, etc).  I was told,
> yes, but the price would be on the same schedule as making a new
> Photo-CD from existing slides or negatives, i.e. about $1.50 per image.
> There is NO discount for the fact that the images are already digitized,
> and NO discounts for multiple copies of the same CD on a single order.

Figure that a full disc would take about 30 minutes to copy using the
double-speed recorder.  So it seems to me that much of the cost comes
from the recording time (and more pics = more time spent copying).

I think you're right that cheaper duplication shops will arise from this,
and/or that copies will become cheaper as shops buy more recorders.

kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu> <76703.4227@compuserve.com>
From: rdm@cfcl.com (Rich Morin)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: UNIX handling of ISO-9660 (request for assistance)
Keywords: UNIX ISO-9660
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:58:09 GMT
Reply-To: rdm@cfcl.com (Rich Morin)
Organization: Canta Forda Computer Lab, Pacifica, CA

I am trying to put together a table characterizing the ways assorted *IX
(UNIX and related) systems handle ISO-9660 naming.  If you would like to
help, please mount an ISO-9660 disc, do an 'ls -l' on the top directory,
and *email* the output to me (rdm@cfcl.com).  Please include the
following information:

	Hardware (CPU)
	  Model		?
	  Vendor	?

	Software (OS)
	  Version	?
	  Vendor	?

I will post the completed table back to alt.cd-rom.

Yours, Rich Morin
rdm@cfcl.com
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From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Redistributable Digital Images
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 09:25:43 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct14.073920.1@ttd.teradyne.com>

>Event Horizons might give you a different slant on that statement. They just
>paid out around $500,000 to Playboy on a copyright infringement suit. Playboy
>doesn't distribute it's images digitized.... 
>
>> aa699@Cleveland.Freenet.EDU/GEnie=A.THOMAS16/Compuserve:71541,3456
>> TONY THOMAS - SIGop - Audio Arts SIG - Cleveland FreeNet

This is the first I've seen of the results of the Playboy vs. Event
Horizons suit. Do you have any more details or can you point me to
a press release or printed article about it? I understood they were
suing for $4million?  Did EH agree to cease and desist? Did the court
order them to remove all images digitized from Playboy? Other
magazines? What about the people who bought the downloads from EH?
Were they ordered to destroy them? Were they notified? Were their
credit cards credited? Did Playboy Inc. get a list of their names
and addresses?

Thanks for any relevant info.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: nat@owlnet.rice.edu (Nathaniel W Guyton)
Subject: 7th Guest
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:49:18 GMT

Hey, it's getting near Halloween time.  Does anyone know whether the _7th Guest_
is gonna be out soon?  I heard that this was about the time it would be 
released....

		Thanks for any input,

	Nat
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From: tcumming@netcom.com (Tom Cumming)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Reading audio as data?
Keywords: audio read data
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:38:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


    From my understanding, only the the CDROM drive that comes w/
SGI machines can read the audio portion of a CD as data. I also understand
that CDROM drive manufactures have agreed not to make drives that can
read the audio. *However* I hope that my understanding is *wrong*!

    Has anyone encountered a CDROM drive that can read the audio as data?

    Please post... I am not the only one interested in this.

Thanx, Tom C.
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: profit press email address
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:32:07 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

I need the email address of Profit Press
 - Thanks in advance

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From: sch@getafix (Simon Hamner)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Photo CD's
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:51:57 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi,
  I've got the bundled Soundblaster Pro + CD-ROM Drive package mainly
for windows mm stuff. Anyway my question is will this setup be able to read
the Kodak Photo-CD, and if it can't at the minute is it a hardware or
software type thing ?


    Thanks
     Simon.

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From: jack@admin.mport.COM (Jack Craig)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: xcdplayer on svr4
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:11:58 GMT
Organization: Microport Inc., Scotts Valley, CA 95066 US of A

brueni@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Dennis Brueni) writes:
I now have my CD-ROM drive working on an OKIStation running AT&T 
>System V/i860, Release 4 unix.  I am wondering if anyone has ported 
>xcdplayer (or something similar) to AT&T SVR4 unix and where to find 

please post result to this question; i have been considering
porting a sgi-like version to svr4. i dont want to waste time
if someone else already has.

thanks, jack...
=============================================================================
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             Software Horizons SVR3 408-684-1375   uunet!sco.com!blznrzn!jack
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>the source code.

>Thanks in advance.

>-- 
>--Dennis Brueni (N0JSQ)        "The knack to flying lies in learning 
>  brueni@csgrad.cs.vt.edu       how to throw yourself at the ground 
>  <Project_Envision>            and miss."  -- Douglas Adams
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.BITNET
Subject: Sound Bastard Pro whining
Reply-To: GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.bitnet
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:48:00 GMT

        I have a SB pro card without the CD, and it does whine, often
modulated by screen or disk activity.  The inside of a PC is an extremely
noisy place EMI wise.  I doubt that all the ferrite beads and capacitors
you can buy will help much.  The noise getting picked up by the SB card
which either needs better shielding of the PC board or more decoupling
capacitors on the board.  Putting stuff on wires or speakers can at best
reduce the high frequency response, which in some cases may be acceptable.
However, without a schematic I cannot say that capacitors would not
damage the output drivers on the board.  As somebody suggested, placing
the card in a different slot as far away from "noisy" cards such as the
video card -may- help.  Let's face it, this card is just a toy and while
may be fun for playing games and such, is not suited for pro or commercial
applications.  It uses only 8 bit converters, so even without the whining
the sound fidelity would be limited.
        Perhaps if enough people were to call the company and complain,
they may make the necessary fixes on their next model.
(Sound Blaster Pro Plus Deluxe).  What can we expect from 20$ worth of
electronics anyway.  If by some miracle a fix is found, I'm sure some
kind soul will post it.  Another place to ask is in the EMU Listserv
group ( Electronic Music ) or it's equivalent Usenet group.  Those
people know everything about everything when it comes to this sort of
sound related stuff.
Whiningly yours,  Joe Gladstone>
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,misc.wanted
From: ycheung@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Yat Lok L. Cheung)
Subject: Wanted: Spanish <-> English  dictionary CDROM
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 08:23:08 GMT



Subject says it all.  I need a Spanish <-> English Dictionary (at least
200,000 translations ) in CDROM media.  If any of you netters know 
where I can purchase one, please send me an email.  

Thanks in advance,

<Lawrence>...
ycheung@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: cd-rom@WINONA.MWC.COM ("", Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re:      Re: FRAUD ALERT - CD-ROM vendor
Reply-To: "(Michael L. Kaufman)" <cd-rom@WINONA.MWC.COM>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 09:57:54 GMT

"(Jon Gefaell)" <jeg7e@HOLMES.ACC.VIRGINIA.EDU> writes:
>I don't understand it... you gave a substantial amount of money to a stranger
>in return for their promise they would quickly ship you a product they didn't
>have at the time?
>
>AHAHAHAHAHAH, HOHOHOHOHOHOHO, really???!!!???
>
>A Fool and his money are soon parted...

This may have been foolish, but the even more foolish thing that he did was
to post something to the net without expecting some obnoxious ass to get
involved.

If you have a point to make, do you really think that this is going to make
it?

>[Smart Shopping tips deleted]

What's the point. No one, particularly not the person you just called a fool,
is going to get you seriously after your first few lines of insults and
ridicule.

IMHO.

Michael
From: lothar@cyrcle.uucp (Bob Trembley)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Wanted: Database of Audio CD titles indexed by UPC (bar) code
Summary: Need a db of CD titles with UCP codes
Keywords: audio cd upc database db
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 23:04:57 EDT
Reply-To: lothar@angus.mi.org
Organization: Cyrcle Systems

Does anyone know where I can get a database of audio CD titles that is
indexed by (or at least has) the 12 character UPC bar code?

Thanks in advance...

--==>>BobT> 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom