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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Marvel Deaths
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 05:55:36 GMT

>
>Yes, I've heard CM is coming back.  It's very unfortunate, because IMO,
>_THE DEATH OF CAPTAIN MARVEL_ GN was an excellent story.  I hate to 
>see them "undo" this.
>
A good point of this is that IF CM comes back, it'll be in INF.WAR.
Starlin is wrinting IF, Starlin wrote THE DEATH..., so if it is done,
It'll at least be done right.

-----SCAVENGER


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From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Rogue and Cyclops Questions
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:23:04 GMT
Reply-To: iho@cac.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma

> uk02700@nx05.mik.uky.edu (mitchell e french) writes:

[re: Rogue]

> >> Is there anyone that her powers don't work on?

I remember that she tried it on Loki once and failed.

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From: wrlutz@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (William R Lutz)
Subject: Re: Rogue and Cyclops Questions
Summary: Looks like today's my day to post. 
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:46:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.203956.29842@ms.uky.edu> uk02700@nx05.mik.uky.edu (mitchell e french) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.035053.18219@wam.umd.edu>  
>rudeboy@next00wor.wam.umd.edu (Darrell T. Blake) writes:
>> Is there any reason given why rogue can not control her powers?
>> Is it just a matter of mastering control or is her power just  
>> uncontrollable?
>
>	Her power has been uncontrollable from the first time it  
>manifested itself.  Xavier thought it could be controlled, which is why  
>she joined the School for Gifted Youngsters in the first place.  (Anybody  
>beside me remember that?  Rogue seems to have forgotten it....)  
>
>> Is there anyone that her powers don't work on?
>
>	Well, Mephisto (in Mephisto Vs. -team of the month-).  Loki (in  
>the X-men/Alpha Flight L.S. -- great story).  It reacted weird with Magus.   
>I can't really think of anyone else, but I'm sure they're out there....
>
>> Same question goes for Cyclops, is there something wrong with him or
>> is his power just uncontrollable?
>
>	When Cyke was a little kid -- before he gained his powers -- he  
>suffered brain damage from a fall.  (Circumstances of fall are not  
>important to this answer...)  The part of his brain that was hurt was the  
>part that controlled his powers.  So, when his powers appeared, they were  
>always on.  
>
>Hope that helps,
>Mushroom

Why did her powers work on Thor and not Loki?  And yes I remember why Rogue
join the X-Men.  I thought it was a good idea.  I thought that it would
bring more about Mystique (sp?) into the X-men story-lines.  Does anybody
remember the stuff about Nightcrawlers mother, and how Nightcrawlers powers
did not effect her when he ported.  Not to mention how much they look alike.
Evertime Marvel gets some good ideas they seem to just disappear that's why
I think this entier Highlord-space-time-Bishop-Cable-Future-Traitor-Shit
is so stupid and we'll never see an end to it.  It just brings up the old
Tom DeFalco debate again.  I like he writing and don't even mind the Fantastic
Four stuff with the Skrull.  I just wish she would have stayed around, it would
have been very interesting to see how Johnny handled being married to the FF's
worst enemy.
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From: CSC9016170L@lust1.latrobe.edu.au (Grim!!, Computer Systems Engineering, La Trobe Uni, Vic, Oz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Missing Alien comics.
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:53:08 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20




So far I've managed to collect all of the Alien comics but
does anyone know if they bringing out the next aliens vs predator
comic series?? If so, let me know? Also if you have any idea what alien 
genocide is all aboout coz it lost me!!

I'd prefer e-mail replies, but if there is sufficient interest 
I'll post a summary.

Thanks.

Grim.



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From: don@tse.uucp (Don Marks)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Alan Moore (was Re: SANDMAN QUESTIONS - HELP, PLEASE.)
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:09:15 GMT
Organization: Toronto Stock Exchange

In article <0ds9=4S00Vox0m01Me@andrew.cmu.edu> js06+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason Lee Smith) writes:
>Speaking of cool dudes, whatever happened to Alan Moore? One day he was
>at the pinnacle of his career, more awards than he could count, then
>suddenly he disappeared.
>
Alan is still writing some of the best comics in the industry, he just does
it for small publishers who give him complete control.  And he doesn't write
superheroes anymore.  Unfortuneately, these small publishers seem to have 
a hard time getting things out on a reasonable schedule.  1991 saw two 
more chapters of his _From Hell_ series (with art by Eddie Campbell) and the 
first chapter of _Lost Girls_ serialized in Taboo.  Tundra collected the first 
few chapters into a prestige format comic about a year ago.  And Gollancz 
published _A Small Killing_, a full length graphic novel by Alan and Oscar 
Zarate.  This was only released in the U.K. (and imported to Canada by 
some smart stores).

Forthcoming is a U.S. release of _A Small Killing_ and the latest Taboo (in 
June), which will feature 40 pages of _From Hell_, 16 pages of _Lost Girls_, 
and even a preview of Gaiman & Zulli's _Sweeney Todd_.  And just maybe
Tundra will give us Big Numbers # 3 sometime this year (I can dream, 
can't I ?), Alan and Bill Sienkiewicz's series that has been lying in limbo
for about a year and a half.

=============================================================================
Don Marks                                 "Revolution is just a t-shirt away"
tse!don@geac.com                                              --- Billy Bragg
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: MARVEL: Re: X-notes, X-traitor
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:27:32 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Apr15.051957.9751@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.141326.21330@wpi.WPI.EDU> paladin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ever Shifting Bearlike being...) writes:
>>In article <92104.114205ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>>>
>>>  Just a few comments:
>>> 1) Some are posting about a love triangle between Cyclops,Jean and Psylocke.
>>>    Since to my knowledge there were never any hints about Cyclops and
>>>    Psylocke, it could just be (IMHO) that Cyclops was just checking her out
>>>    as men usually do at the beach. Psylocke is after all supposed to be the
>>>   sex symbol of the group.(At least she has been drawn that way and mentioned
>>>    by other X-men as gorgeous).
>>
>>	true... and she was a model before she took up superheroing....
>
>True... and she was also a white, British model who probably couldn't
>perform a single ninja action if her life depended on it.  Nor could
>she endlessly prattle on about her "psychic knife."  But then, I'm
>just nitpicking here.  (Personally, I think she was using her powers on
>Cyclops, but I have no idea why.  Maybe Psylocke is the traitor...)

	I agree.  I think Psylocke used her powers on Scott.  Examine the

panel again and note the hazy outline.  As for Psylocke being the traitor,
it's possible, but considering the fact that I heard the X-writers haven't
decided yet, I tend to think the whole traitor plotline will be dropped.
	As for a white, British model performing ninja actions, haven't you
ever seen that Lee Van Cleef opus, "The Master" ?  If an aging bad actor can
flip over helicopter blades, Psylocke should have no problem.    :)

						L8R,
					Raythrax (yes, that is my real name)



						NOT
From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: MISC: New Books-4/8/92
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:30:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr8.213017.26656
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


 
Here are the books released by Capital City Distribution in Cleveland,
OH on Wednesday, April 8th:
 
AAAAHH PRESS
Ms. PMS #1
 
CALIBER
Heatseeker
 
CONTINUITY
Ms. Mystic #8
 
DARK HORSE
Dark Horse Presents #61              Vampirella #4
Venus Wars #13
 
DC
Action #677                          Batman #478
Detective #644                       Doom Patrol #55
Green Arrow #61                      Ragman #8
The Ray #4                           Skull & Bones #2
Suicide Squad #65                    Warlords #5
 
DC/IMPACT
Crusaders #1                         The Fly #10
Who's Who in Impact Comics #3
 
FANTAGRAPHICS/MONSTER COMICS
She Buccaneer #1
 
GREATER MERCURY
Grips Special #1
 
INNOVATION
Dark Shadows #1
 
MALIBU/ETERNITY
Ninja High School #32                Robotech Genesis Ltd. Ed. #1
 
MARVEL
Cage #3                              Cops: The Job #1
Farewell To Weapons Dirt Bag Special Moon Knight #38
Nomad #2                             Sam & Max Go To The Moon Dirt Bag Spec.
She-Hulk #40                         Warlock #2
X-Force #10
 
REVOLUTIONARY
Hard Rock Comics #2,3                Rock N' Roll Comics #47
Sports Superstars #2
 
VALIANT
Shadowman #3
 
VIZ COMICS
Silent Mobius Part II #4
 
MAGAZINES
Comic Relief #35
 
Next list: Friday, April 10th.
 
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                           Joel Tscherne: N8QVD
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From: morrow@fnalf.fnal.gov (I Elmo)
Subject: Re: RAC SPLIT: YES!!!
Organization: bim bim bim!
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:50:43 GMT

In article <703099445.0@selene.FidoNet>, Ed.Almasy@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Ed Almasy) writes:
> On Apr 07, Phillip J. Birmingham wrote to All:
>  PJ>         Up until last night, I was not opposed to a split of r.a.c.
>  PJ>    This is compounded by what I see as an offensive degree of snobbery 
>  PJ>    on the part of a few split proponents. If this ever comes to a vote, 
> 
> Where do you see snobbery?  Because they don't like the same type of comics 
> that you like?

	He, like I, sees snobbery in the people who desperately yearn for a
rac.indies because they can't stand to wade through electronics reams of
commentary on X-trash and other adolescent male power fantasies.  These people
are breathing ozone up on their high horse.
-- 
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From: birmingh@fnalc.fnal.gov (Phillip J. Birmingham)
Subject: Re: GROO
Organization: Aardvark Comment Sucks Club
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:07:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.202313.27229@u.washington.edu>, il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh) writes:
> On the subject of Groo, Wasn't Rufferto a lot smarter when he first
> appeared?  He's acting much more like a stupid dog now.

         I dunno. Rufferto is still smarter than Groo. Not that that rules
    out the possibility that he is, indeed, a stupid dog.

         I meant to concur that I found the puzzle not worth my time
    either. Especially since Groo is no longer on the newsstands and costs
    over twice as much, the sort of people who find that sort of stuff
    amusing probably don't buy the comic.

--
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From: ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Iron Man art...
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:53:59 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>       A while ago someone complained about the constantly shifting personnel
>on Iron Man.  I  just wanted to put my two cents in and agree.  What was
>wrong with the Ryan/Wiacek team?  Being an aspiring illustrator myself,
>I'm all for letting new blood take a crack at things, but a little
>consistency would be nice too!
>

Well Craig,

    Iron Man has had a pretty consistent personnel for the last few years as
far as I can remember (and I can remember a lot, considering I've got nearly
all of shell head's books back to the 60's).

    The problem with Ryan, is that he creates the most uncreative and
undynamic panels!!  Where as the current 'HOT' artists overkill it, he just
plain doesn't have it!!  There are major inconsistencies with the way he
portrays Tony Stark and the book just feels dead.  Its not very entertaining
to read, when the art is boring and ho-hum to look at.

    The new artist of IM, looks promising.  Although his Tony looks a bit
inconsitant, the rest of the book doesn't look bad.  He accomplishes a decent
flow from panel to panel without being too boring and even throws in some
pretty dynamic panels.

                                    Just some of my opinions

                                    
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From: cbuteau@wpi.WPI.EDU (Christopher W Buteau)
Subject: Re: X-Men Traitor
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:41:10 GMT

In article <11095@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones) writes:

>	Bish might try to kill the X-men if he thought that it was
>the only way to ensure their martyrdom and his own timeline.
>Or he might have some sort of programming put in by Witness to 
>betray the X-men.  Or someone might mind control him into doing it.
>
Someone like the White Queen for instance.....
Does anyone remeber that when Professor X tried to scan the body he
"thought he sensed something" while Jean said it was fine. Then the X-Men
got called out on a mission.  I have stated this before and state it again I 
think that the White Queen is partially if not wholly involved in the 
betrayal.
	Picture it the White Queen takes over the body of Bishop and destroys
Professor X first then the others finally getting to Jean Grey.  The X-Men
caught by surprise are detroyed and can not figure out what is really wrong.
Bishop realizes he has been a tool in the 'Betrayal' kills himself.  Gambit 
getting away because he is crafty actually supports the dream by training 
Bishop but realizing he can not tell Bishop what his Purpose is.

That is what I think could and should happen. 

Flame me or throw your thoughts back, I'm curious.

-Later





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From: paladin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ever Shifting Bearlike being...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: MARVEL: Rogue's powers
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:17:14 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <45261@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> pollerts@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (T'vajnxek the Orc) writes:
>
>I seemed to have missed this, but could someone tell me
>how long Rogue's absorbtion of someones mind and powers
>last!? 
>

	i don't think you missed it cause no one mentioned it... 
  rogue's power is on a 1:60 basis... one second of contact = one minute of 
  her having person.. originally it lasted far longer... but has been toned 
  down a lot...


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     Reality	       | " Wouldn't you laugh if your head exploded???  
 		       |	 No.... I guess you wouldn't.....	 
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human is the foulest name i can ever call a person......
From: chgarnett@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: CEREBUS: 1 of 3 aardvarks in all...?
Date: 29 Mar 92 02:26:38 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.

In article <1992Mar28.224830.12855@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, crew@CS.Stanford.EDU (Roger Crew) writes:
> In article <22560.29d03d3d@amherst.edu> chgarnett@amherst.edu writes:
>> 
>> True, we've never seen Cirin's face, though.
> 
> Say what?   
> We've seen it a fair amount in just the last few issues (151 & ff.)
> 

Well, all we've seen is the area around the eyes. Doesn't seem to have
quite as much of a snout as Cerebus does, but I'll admit, Cirin's got
to be aardvark #2.

-C
From: ed_medeiros@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Marvel Series III cards, WHEN
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:57:19 GMT
Organization: Muskingum College

Does anybody know when the Marvel Series III cards are coming out?  The
advertisement in the comics with Silver Surfer looks better than the previous
two series.
From: Dino.Ciccone@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Dino Ciccone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Youngblood I
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:34:31 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

Youngblood is out I just came from the comic store and saw it on the shelf
I didn't pick it up because I really didn't want to spend the 2.50
The store owner said that You'll end up spending 10.00 next month I guess
because of the multiples or something.
I can say though that there is a card in the issue and the covers are 
opposite each other meaning you can flip it over and there is another
cover with the other half of the team.
April 15 is the date.
that it came out.

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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Sandman Movie?!?  (and Sam & Max)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:40:12 GMT

>I don't think I would.  Given Hollyweird's recent track record regarding
>the transition of comic book characters to the silver (or phosphore) screen,
>I think you'll understand why I hope this project will NOT be completed.
>
But what if the film were done by someone like Steven King, Clive Barker, or
Wes Craven.  Or even better, Tim Burton-(I know this will start up a Burton-ruined-Batman(tm) war, but...).  I think a Burton Sandman could be really cool.

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From: jonal@sofus.dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Youngblood I
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:30:43 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

In article <92100.094132EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie Oporto) writes:

>In article <1992Apr7.184513.1@runt.appstate.edu>, grs02500@runt.appstate.edu
>says:
>>
>>Has anybody heard anything about the new youngblood series.  It hits the
>>stands
>>in a week and I just found out about it.  It appears to be a new mutant group
>>in another marvel universe.  What's the deal, didn't marvel already find out
>>that "New Universe's" are not hip.  But I'm looking forward to Rob's work on
>>the comic.

>I couldn't help but laugh when I read this.  Youndbloods is a book being
>published by Malibu comics, as Marvel has just given Robbie the boot.
>As a side note, dont expect it to be out for a little while more.  Malibu is
>up to its armpits in lawsuits by Marvel due to a lot of the Youngbloods
>Universe stuff.  The Savage Dragon first appeared in a Spider-Man book,

Which issue was he in? Can't remember from the EL Spidey's I've read (but I 
haven't read them all...)

>making him Marvel's property and the YB characters are copies of Robbie's
>X-Force characters.

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From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: dr.doom
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:47:10 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <5APR199220030943@rigel.tamu.edu> djh4535@rigel.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J) writes:
>i was wondering is thier any info on why doc doom is always shown in his
>old armor lately when he has that really bad silver futuristic type one.
>(as seen at the end of the war between kristoff and the rogue doombot)
>they never really done much with that story line either.
>if i've missed a issue where these are explained then please tell me which.
>thanx
>		d.j.loki seth I
Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics:12779 alt.manga:1285
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:29:41 GMT
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,alt.manga
Subject: Re: The rec.arts.{comics.}manga wars continue
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney

bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
 >There is nothing in the charter of rec.arts.comics restricting the group
 >to the American continent.  That's just the most numerous posting group,
 >and the most popular subject.  British titles do show up occasionally.
 >Rec.arts.manga, on the other hand, would be restricted to Asian, mostly
 >Japanese, comics.  Since we all seem to agree that the only difference
 >between comics and manga, IF ANY, is the continent it originates on

I couldn't disagree more.  This indicates a very shallow understanding
of the differences.   If all the manga you've read are westernised
translations, you could be forgiven for having this view;   I mean,
the translators choose manga which will appeal to comic readers (and
which will sell).

I can write megabytes of essays, I can post synopses, I can digitise
every page of Manga Frontier and post it, but people will still say
"but they're just comics"!  I really can't do anything about
peoples' inability to discern.


 >The only reason I can see that some would be strongly against putting the
 >group under comics is ego:  perhaps some manga fans find the concept of
 >being grouped together with mere "comics" insulting.

No, not at all.  I hope I speak for those in this discussion who have plenty
of exposure to both, love both, and recognise that both are ultimately
worlds apart, and deserve corresponding positions in the Usenet namespace.


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Iain Sinclair   axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au                             ne cede.