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From: pc@linus.mitre.org (Penny Chase)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Culture (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:09:13 GMT
	<1992Oct7.160729.28914@spdcc.com> <1av7r5INNd75@mizar.usc.edu>
	<mattm-071092122712@mcmelmon.apple.com>
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Research Computer Facility, The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA

In article <mattm-071092122712@mcmelmon.apple.com> mattm@apple.com
(Matthew Melmon) writes:

   In article <1av7r5INNd75@mizar.usc.edu>, adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
   wrote (replying to david carlton):

   > | >and just last year I saw a movie that she [Dietrich] was in without 
   > | >realizing that it was she.  

   A common failing, no doubt.  To which Dolphie replies:

   > That's not really the point.

   Bullshit.  Complete and utter bullshit!  Where do you come up with
   this crap!?  Someone sees what you believe to be *an* *icon*, does
   not know who the fuck she is (she has, after all, be a nobody for
   God-knows how many decades), and you claim that "It's not the point."

I'm with Arne on this one.  The look, gestures, and style that are
associated with Dietrich need not be present in each of her films.
That she was in a film and not recognized may be a testimony to her
ability as an actress, rather than denying her status as an icon. (I
still remember my surprise when I saw "A Room With A View" a few days
after seeing "My Beautiful Laundrette", and only later realized that
Daniel Day Lewis was in both; not that I consider him an icon, but he
is a fine actor).

	Penny

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From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:43:52 GMT


In article <1992Oct8.143900.28635@fig.citib.com>, swc@fig.citib.com (Steve Carpenter) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Oct2.143845.836@fig.citib.com>, glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> In article <72923@apple.Apple.COM>, richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel) writes:
|> |> |> 
|> |> |> (Herald Tribune, 17-September.  Used without permission.)
|> |> |> 
|> |> |> What's in Fashion?  For Men, Smooth Look Goes Integral
|> |> 
|> |> There is also a strange phenomenon which is associated
|> |> with this removal of body hair - a *stunning* increase
|> |> in nelliness.  Perhaps body hair secretes some sort of
|> |> butchizing hormone.  

|> But dahlink!! With all your fur, what's your excuse????  <snap>

Extended proximity to *you*, no doubt.

|> Now if you'll all excuse me, I'm going to run for cover......

Exactly *when* does your contract come up for renewal, hon?

-- 
Greg Parkinson                  Phone: 212-657-7814  Fax: 212-825-8607
Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
From: corydin@wam.umd.edu (Tim Lachine)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Faeries
Keywords: woods
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:13:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: wam.1992Oct13.171353.7600
Distribution: usa
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park

Could someone please enlighten me on the gay subalternateculture group called,
I believe the Faeries.  I heard it was kind of hippyish with sympathetic
resonances to new age. but I'm not sure.

		tim
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: daniel@nstn.ns.ca (Daniel MacKay)
Subject: Re: The Rainbow Flag
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:18:24 GMT

In article <1b1mg3INN7et@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST402341@brownvm.brown.edu 
(Gary Byma) writes:
>Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure someone will) but I had understood
>that the rainbow flag represented the rainbow coalition which includes
>persons of all races, and that the lavender strip on the flag was for
>gays/lesbians. When did it become for queers only?

A Micmac (a Eastern North America first nation) friend has a "ribbon shirt"
that a relative of his made.  It has brown, black, yellow, red, white and
green ribbons symbolizing races and the earth- an a Micmac national flag,
half on the front, half on the back..  I *like* the rainbow, but I think
I'll work on another pat etiology.
--
Daniel MacKay					daniel@nstn.ns.ca
Homo habilis					Nova Scotia, Canada
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: The Lonster (was: Re: Oregon on Today Show this morning)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:41:31 GMT

elliott@courant.princeton.edu (Frank W. Elliott) writes:

>In article <Bvx7Lz.AKn@agora.rain.com> bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) writes:
>>
>>   And it was said that his sphinchter was *three* *sizes* too small.
>>
>  I was under the impression that it could admit his head.

That's nothing; he *is* a pinhead, you know.

--
John Dorrance * Alleged Homosexual/Shameless Hussy * thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Why you people alienate so many...
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:46:13 GMT

rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:

>John Dorrance's debut managed to piss off even sweet ol'
>*me*.  I exited my customary Pollyanna mode to flame the
>young whippersnapper when he complained that a lesbian of
>his acquaintance was "too out" in public, and constantly
>embarrassed him...

This reminds me... This friend of mine was enlisted to go into one
of the branches of the military, but got out of it within days of
when she was supposed to leave by telling them that she was a les-
bian. But about a year later, she went into a different branch of
the military. How could this happen? Do the branches not share this
information? Can someone say they've been 'cured' in order to get
back in? She later was kicked out of the military again, I guess.

John, wondering how many times it's possible to get booted from the
military, and wondering if you can be an out queer in the military
by claiming cures/relapses every time someone says anything about
it

--
John Dorrance * Alleged Homosexual/Shameless Hussy * thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why you people alienate so many...
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:18:09 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <thaaang.719206423@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>I *think* I'm better now...
   
   No one with any sense would doubt this.

>
>>   revelation - you use Retin-A.
>Horrid *bitch*! How *could* you blab?
>
   You will be iconoblasted, centuries hence.

   Wayne
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:25:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Oct7.162516.29773
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Oct7.153455.2674@osf.org> coren@osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:
>In article <1atd2qINNt2p@mizar.usc.edu>, adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct7.000810.3872@reed.edu> 
>> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>> > In article <1at35iINNngi@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (the
>> > imminently e-fuckable 
>> 
>> Well, I hope I'm not *just* "e-fuckable".
>
>Especially "imminently", like in about 10 days or so?

Well, boys, you're all in luck.  There are four keyboards and systems
connected by ethernet in my little warren next to the living room.
I'll set up the chairs.  Don't hesitate to go at it!

Just keep the bacon canapes out of the computer area.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: Robert Coren *had* never been flamed
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:05:23 GMT

In article <flambe@kaa.gr.osf.org>, emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus) writes:

[spectacular brimstone deleted]

> There, how's that?

           ,
Thank you, Eamonn, I needed that.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:39:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.233345.2203@ncselxsi.uucp> fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher) writes:
>In article <36698@hoptoad.uucp> laura@hoptoad.UUCP (Laura Creighton) writes:
>>I have always believed that dried cilantro is coriander.
>>Am I wrong?  I am strongly allergic to coriander, and mildly
>>to cilantro -- plus I hate the taste altogether -- which
>>I thought made sense.  
>
>Cilantro is usually the fresh leaves of the coriander plant.  Here in
>the Bay Area it's often labelled as "Chinese Parsley".  Coriander as a
>spice is the seeds of the plant.
>
>Chuck

Oh, am I red-faced!

Laura was right. I was wrong. But I plead bad research materials!
My _Larousse Gastronomique_ doesn't mention 'cilantro' as an equivalent
for coriander (or chinese or greek parsley). I have only ever used
the *seeds* and never would have guessed that the leaves of the plant
are actually 'coriandrum sativum'! 

Then I checked the _Sunset Western Garden_ manual, where they list 
'cilantro' as another name for 'coriander'.

Sheesh.

-- 
Howard Arthur Faye * Panglossian Acres * Box 7 * Littlerock, CA   93543
                         Fax: 805.944.5958

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg)
Subject: MCC of Portland Mailing List Stolen
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:39:29 GMT

	Bastards.  Last thing I should do in the morning is listen to
the radio.

	Last night, somone(s) broke into the Metropolitan Commuity
Church of Portland (Portland's only Christian Church openly serving the
needs of gays and lesbians) and tore up the pastor's office.  The only
thing missing in the morning's assessment of damages, it seems, was the
Church's mailing list.

	Several months ago, the No On Hate (now No On 9) group had their
office broken into, and their mailing list stolen.  People on that list
have been recieving death threats and harassing phone calls.  Any takers
that this job was by the same crew (same M.O.) ?

	After Watergate, I can almost understand the political tactic,
but breaking into a _church_?  Lou Mabon (leader of O.C.A.) may not be
the giver-of-orders in this case, but the people he inspires to hatred
are truly scum...

		Elf !!!

-- 
Elf Sternberg    __   |     I have looked into the abyss, and the abyss
elf@halcyon.com  \/   | has looked into me.  Neither liked what we saw.
elf@polari.online.com |                              - Brother Theodore
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:40:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.192349.3964@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
>
>In article <BvvA2s.MG5@scd.hp.com> mdrayton@sr.hp.com (Mike
>Drayton) writes:
>
>>I don't know about that, but won't you buy me a Mercedes-Benz?
>
>Your friends *do* have Porsches, why make amends?

Fortunately, some of us *do* get by with a little help from our friends. 

(a little free association - sorry.)


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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: swc@fig.citib.com (Steve Carpenter)
Subject: Re: Gay Paris
Originator: swc@swcdev
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:52:55 GMT


In article <1992Oct12.135647.14524@iiasa.ac.at>, mcinnes@iiasa.ac.at (Robert  McINNES) writes:
|> Hi!
|> has anybody out there been to Paris recently and managed to
|> get into La Banque.  How did it work?
|> Bob McInnes
|> elm mcinnes@iiasa.iiasa.ac.at

I would be interested in this information myself, since I'll be in France
at the end of January.

-- 

Steve Carpenter                                  
5 Jane St.  New York, NY  10014-1934
(212) 691-8547                                  CIS: 70313,122
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 8 Oct 92 05:40:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Oct8.054058.24594
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1454@dosbears> drp@dosbears.uucp writes:
>I will suggest that Madonna is an iconoclast rather than an icon.

interesting..

I'm inclined to say that she is pretending to be an iconoclast, in
order to be an icon.
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/   Delicious & Nutritious breakfast cereals shot from guns!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore)
Subject: Re: WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 12:40:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.041906.3741@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>at the risk of sounding like the clueless white boy I might very well
>be, could someone explain to me how soc.motss is a particularly white
>forum?

The same way it's a particularly male forum.  We've had
this conversation before, however, and the punchline goes
something like this:  If I don't like the content of the
newsgroup, it's incumbent on me to change it.  All I can
legitimately ask for is that the other participants try to
listen when I raise issues or objections that arise from my
perspective as a woman and a feminist.  It's paradoxically
presumptuous and passive to expect someone else to fight my
battles, especially when I'm quite capable of doing it
myself.
--
       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Am I Going Crazy?
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:35:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.152251.26696@unocal.com> stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes:

>Not really.  Kinsey thought most people were bisexual.
>Also not all people get married solely because of sexual attraction.  There
>could be other reasons.  I know a fair number of GL who are married to motos
>and have come to terms with it.

On the other hand, his apparent devotion to George Bush seems to be
more in keeping with the closet queen than with the self-comfortable
bisexual.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: Allan Bloom died
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:18:15 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

In article <1992Oct11.205513.1568@midway.uchicago.edu> elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney) tells me:
>>>... Many people won't tangle with someone very rich, very respectable, and 
>>>very powerful.  (Particularly not people whose jobs depend on the good graces
>>>of a monolithic University administration.)
>>
>>My remark was directed specifically and personally to Heather, whose
>>job probably does not hinge on currying favor with the high and the
>>mighty. My question to her was why she did not post a nearly identical
>>request before Bloom died.
>
>Heather teaches in the Philosophy department, under several of Bloom's
>colleagues.  Next question?
>

My next question is why am I am having so much difficulty is
making my point? Perhaps, it's my old-fashioned disgust of
cowardice. Perhaps, it's just that I'm a bad writer, or a
poor thinker.

Let me try one more time: if Heather could not, because of
professional considerations, post the post she posted while
Bloom was alive, why does she now think she can get away
with asking someone to desecrate Bloom's memory, which is
exactly how his surviving friends and supporters would see
outing a corpse? If on the other hand, she can do so now
with impunity -- after all all she has done is post a
request for someone else to out him -- why could she have
not done the same thing when he was alive. What has changed
vis-a-vis those who have power over her? They will or will
not take notice of, and object to, her post in exactly the
same manner, whether Bloom is alive or dead -- that they
resent even more kicking a man who can't fight back, again
as I'm sure they would see it.

If I have again failed to be cogent, I will drop the entire
point now.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Icons and Iconography (was Re: Dietrich, Madonna, etc.)
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:55:34 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Oct12.143905.3243@panix.com>, mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
wrote:

> who Michaelangelo is."  "Of course I do," my niece said indignantly.
> "He's the red guy in Ninja Turtles."  (She was immediately corrected
> by her younger brother, by the way.)

Perhaps a couple of years ago, I was at this Santa Monica cafe with a 
*beautiufl* 'straight' friend of mine. A mother and her three children came

in and sat down next to us.  Fine. They started to talk, and one of the 
little boys says to another,  "I like Michaelangelo more than Leonardo."  
I commented on how remarkable it was (which embarrassed both the little 
lad and my companion no end).  The mother says to me, "It's not what you
think.  He's talking about turtles."

"Oh."

After a little oral sex in his hand-me-down 630csi, my friend asks me,
"What's Michaelangelo got to do with Turtles?"  To which I replied I
hadn't a clue.  So we caught a Dodger game and that was that.

Melmothra, ACC
From: cjr10@cccvm.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Russell)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Blockbuster Video rumors
Date: 10 Oct 92 04:52:10 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corp.

In article <1687A10284.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu>
TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu writes:
 
>
>In article <Bvt580.4Ev@agora.rain.com>
>bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) writes:
>
>>There is a rumor making the rounds that (in the form I heard it)
>>the owner of Blockbuster Video franchises in the pnw, John David
>>Griesbaum, had given large sums of money to the OCA.  As a result
>>a lot of people were angrily marching into local Blockbusters and
>>cutting up their cards.
>>
>Okay, it's not true. But has anyone noticed how hard it is (stop snickering, me
>n) to get a gay or lesbian-themed video in a Blockbuster? Back when "Henry and
>June" ("Emmanuelle" with pretensions, IMHO) came out with its NC-17 rating, BB
>announced it would not carry NC-17 movies. But I wonder now whether the store h
>as quietly extended this policy to gay movies as well. No "Desert Hearts," no "
>Lianna," no "Longtime Companion," etc. You get the picture. Or maybe it's cause
> I'm in ALabama, where the greatest demand is for tractor-pull and wrestling vi
>deos...
 
Blockbuster portrays the "family" image, and that's family in the
traditional (heterosexual) sense. Here in the San Jose area it doesn't
seem to be much different from what you describe in Alabama (except
that I don't run across many of those great "tractor-pull" movies).
Blockbuster treads the middle road.
 
\chris (Chris Russell - cjr10@cccvm.ccc.amdahl.com)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: Culture (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:57:35 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

Speaking of icons, as I believe we were, the following is a blurb from
from the Neptune Filmcalendar, a tabloid-format handout that describes
the films coming to our local repertory house between Oct 4 and Dec 9:

"DADDY AND THE MUSCLE ACADEMY. TomOfFinland is one of the
gay world's few authentic icons. His drawing have had an
enormous influed on gay identity -- not only on the visual
appearance of gay people, but also on their attitutde and
self-understanding. Tom's Ultimate Leather Men are known and
seen all over the world. They are the symbols of gay pride
and friendship.

"TomOfFinland's drawings have also had an influence on
such individual artists as Rainer Werner Fassbinder, Robert
Maplethorpe and Bruce Weber. Tom's vision has become part of
the western iconography, not only within the the leather
community, but also through the visual styles adopted by
rock stars like Adam Ant, Freddie Mercury and Madonna.

"DADDY AND THE MUSCLE ACADEMY is the first documentary film
ever made about TomOfFinland. . . .

". . . Leather men from different parts of the States tell
their stories about how Tom's drawings influenced their own
lives. Additionally, fellow artists Etienne and Nayland
Blake, Bob Mizer of the Athletic Model Guild and Durk Dehner
of the Tom of Finland Foundation have been interviewed.

". . . shows how TomOfFinland's work passed from the private
fantasies of a man in Europe to the underground images that
shaped a generation's ideas of how a gay man could look and
act. Tom's work is a blueprint for the appeareance and
attitude of many gay men in the latter part of the 20th
century."

Remember, friends, I'm just quoting here, not responsible for content.
However, I do think the above contains a succinct and interesting
understanding of what a cultural icon is and why it's important.

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Subject: Re: Ella (was Re: Dietrich, Madonna, etc.)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:39:47 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: soc.motss

In article <73451@apple.Apple.COM>, richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
wrote:

> 3. Have lunch with Apple's own enfant terrible, Matthew.  Be sure to
> pay for the meal with high test plastic.

Speaking of which, it's about time for another bite, snookums.
I *might* show you the bartender who looks like Jason Priestly *if*
you promise *not* to try and put him on your lap.

(he's a little bigger than Jason - I shall leave that pregnant
observation open to the mind of the reader...)

> I do listen to a disc with Maria Callas arias on it, so I think I can
> keep my Queer Card after all.
> -- 

I have a Kanawa (sp? - some babe from New Zealand) disk.  Does
that count?

Melmothra, ACC
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:37:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.130021.18381@seq.uncwil.edu> drollin@seq.uncwil.edu (David A. Rollins) writes:
>Your feelings got hurt, so you put up a shield rather than commit to
>self-reflection to determine if someone could possibly be trying to
>help you, not bring you down.

Um, no.  I have a very tough skin, plus I thought you were wildly off-base
in your reaction to my article.  My feelings weren't hurt.  Really.

>Get a reality check.

Ohmigod, we used the same phrase in separate, unrelated articles.
It's Kismet.  Maybe there is hope for us.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Culture (was Re: Ah, Fashion.)
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:36:57 GMT
Organization: Militant Homosexual Lobby, Gay Lifestyles, Inc.


 
> Jack Hamilton (jfh@netcom.com) suggests:
> 
> >If you want ambiguity, not to mention a touch of pretentiousness, n'est-ce
> >pas is better.                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Jess Anderson (anderson@macc.wisc.edu) demurs:

> Oh, *I* wouldn't!  Unh-uh, not me, no way.

Oh, I don't know, it has a certain je ne sais quoi.

--jns
Newsgroups: soc.motss