From: dart@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan the Witchling)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Robert Anton Wilson (was: Re: Satan)
Date: 14 Aug 92 06:14:34 GMT
Followup-To: alt.satanism
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

>Its relavance (I brought it up in the first place) is that reading Wilson
>helps one come to terms with his/her own reality tunnel, he shows you you're
>trapped in your way of thinking and helps you find the way out. 
>His writing is relavant for ANYbody who is trapped in dogma, neophyte Satanist
>Xtian, bhuddist whatever. The whole Magick thing is seen in a different light
>after reading Wilson and so on... Most of his attitudes could be considered
>satanic in the true sense (although he refuses to be trapped in the dogma &
>labels that go with Satanism) and many of his fictional charachters could be
>considered satanic, (Hagbard Celiene, Aliester Crowley, Sigsmundo Celiene ect.)
>-Scott

	As long as we are on the subject -- What are the general opinions
expressed here regarding the use of recreational pharmaceuticals, particularly
psychedelics, and most notably lysergic acid diethylamide, in ritual.  Are 
there any special things that should be done during the practice of fifth-
circuit magick, or is the ritual setting in and of itself a good enough set-
ting and the ritual mindset a good enough set for use in this way?
	If I am going to metaprogram myself, I do not want to leave bugs.

	Also, by the way, I am going to post on here regardless of my actual
religionic portable pick-a-reality tunnel set.  I state that I am NOT a 
satanist, and that I am more oriented towards modern paganistic urban sham-
anism with a discordian twist of lime.  Nonetheless, i like to leave the
"an it harm none" in my "do as thou wilt".  I disagree with LaVey in the idea
that witchcraft is just a pagan front for xtianity.  I think that, at the
time, the pagans he knew may have been of that strain, or perhaps the only
knowledge of wicca he had was "The Tree".  It's like saying that astrology
is all goodness-and-light, sweet-enough-to-make-Galadriel-puke, flakey New
Age bullshit just because Linda Goodman thinks that the birds sing to the 
trees to make them grow.  Or maybe he was just trying to make all the wiccans
who might read that pissed off, and only those with a decent amount of
genuine curiosity would read further in the ever famous manner of Crowley.
I dunno.  The guy might just be a dick.
	On the same note, I am posting here because i do not want to put up
with all the "an it harm none, do as alexander/gardner/buckland/cunningham
wills" crap.  I can do without crystal-clutching hobbit dorks.  Youse guyses
seems mores opened mindeds.  Just consider me an obligatory dog shaman/disco-
rdian pope/eclectic witch/heavy-metal mystic.

	I assume that not all of you have fallen to the dogmatrap problem,
by the way, and have thusly developed satanic rituals of your own.  If so,
can somone please post one, preferrably avoiding the pompous melodramatic
bullshit that Anton Salvador LaBarnum was so fond of.  The stuff reeks too
much of Gygaxian Dungeons and Dragons crossed with masculinist pseudocrowley
starhawk.

	Also, anyone know where i can find really good looking redheaded
females to eat a catholic rye-patty out of?

	I once heard someone say "no matter how much you deny the existence
of gravity, it still exists."  Is it just me or do I get the distinct impres-
sion that this manner of thinking is going to be in trouble if they happen
to be wrong and accidentally levitate when someone slips them a ten-strip in
a chicken sandwich?

	And finally, back on Wilson, should satan really be considered liter-
arily akin to Prometheus, especially with his name meaning light-bearer, and if
so, can greece sue christianity in general for not only this ripoff, but for
using a satyr suit of pans as satans appearance (red paint added, or maybe it
was the blood of heathens), and does Olympus have a trademark on these?
	The previous paragraph was meant to be humorous, but the gist is
remnant.

			later,
				me.

		"Common sense is that which tells you the Earth is flat"
					--Principia Discordia
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