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From: gbrooksh@comanche.ess.harris.com (Greg Brookshire)
Subject: Looking for comments on ComTrade..
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:07:40 GMT
Reply-To: gbrooksh@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

I'm considering buying a 486 machine by mail order, but know nothing about
some of the companies I see advertised in Computer Shopper.

Does anybody have any comments on a company called ComTrade?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: dinhyen@nevada.edu (Dinh-Yen Tran)
Subject: HELP: Size of memory chips
Organization: University of Nevada, Las Vegas Electrical Engr.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:22:19 GMT


Hi:
	I want to upgrade my 386dx/25 's memory from 4M to 8M.  I am having
 trouble determining what kind of memory chips I have.   The following appears
 on the chips:

		KM41C1000AP-7
		    972 Korea

I know that the -7 indicates that the chip is 70ns (right?).  Could someone
 tell me what the capacity of the chip, and possibly the make, is?  My guess 
is that the chips are 128K since 36 of these little devils make up a 4M bank 
(128Kx32 = 4M).  Also, I spotted the following on the memory chips of my
SpeedStar 24X with 1M:
		
		KM44C256CP-6
	            217 Korea

which are apparently of the same make.  Does the '256' indicates that the 
chips are 256K?  If they are, and since there are 8 of them, wouldn't 
8x256K = 2M (w/o parity) instead of 1M?  Please enlighten me on this.  I 
appreciate any information or suggestion.
dinh-yen
dinhyen@redrock.nevada.edu
From: jimh@sequent.com (Jim Harrie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Lucky Computer
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:37:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan8.153755.16419
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

Has anyone had any experience with Lucky Computer. We have one locally
and it is very convenient. They seem to have good components and the
people I've talked to seem knowledgable.
The better components are usually upgrades like the Stealth or ATI
Pro. They carry some good monitors like the Viewsonic 5+ and 7. The
motherboard is very clean looking and has an Opti chipset. Hard drives
are usually Conner or Western Digital. Prices are good.
I'd be interested in any positive or negative feedback regarding
them.
-- 
 Jim Harrie (jimh@sequent.com) World Wide Technical Support 
 Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. (503) 578-5778
From: manaster@yu1.yu.edu (Chaim Manaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Computer too fast! - Colorado Tape backup unit
Keywords: Core tape backup
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:14:51 GMT
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Sciences, UCLA

I have a Core-tape-light QIC-80 tape backup unit with what might
be a similar problem. I runit on a 486DX 33Mhz EISA motherboard
and can only use the tape at the 8 Mhz clock and not the normal
33 Mhz clock rate where it always produces errors and aborts.
Core told me long ago that they were aware of the problem but I
never got a fix from there tech support!

I wonder if maybe this is a generic hardware speed problem with
QIC drives and that your problem is related to mine.

Let me know if you get any responses that help you.

By the way to you netlanders, maybe you know of a fix that will
let me run the Core tape drive at the rated 33 Mhz of my system.

A reply would be particularly appreciated from Core Tech support
if they see this posting.

Thanks for the help.

Henry Manaster



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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 2 IDE drives
Keywords: IDE
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:38:28 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1993Jan11.185058.24877@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mary.Evans@launchpad.unc.edu (Mary Evans) writes:
>In article <1993Jan10.233306.8869@sed.stel.com> jon@sed.stel.com (Jon Radel) writes:
>>If anyone is e-mailing the answer to this, and related "how do I get 
>>2 IDE drives to run off of the same controller" questions, please
>>post them too!  I have two IDE drives, both of which will run on my
>>controller by itself, but when I hook both up the machine hangs.  There
>>aren't any obvious settings to change except in the CMOS.

Simple.  Your boot disk should have a jumper on it set to the "master"
position.  Your other disk should have a jumper set to the "slave"
position.  They might not be marked as such.  Consult your drive's
docs or contact the manufacturer.  I know that Seagate has an
automated information service on their phone number - just key in the
drive model (from a touch-tone phone) and listen for all the specs on
it.  Once you set the jumpers, you're done.

Don't assume that your old drive is already a "master" drive.  Some
drives have a third jumper position for "stand-alone" operation.  Your
new drive will almost certainly NOT be in the slave position.

>I have two IDE's, both from the same manufacturer, and that required
>setting jumpers for master and slave.  There was no problem in doing that. 
>The problem I had (and still do) is how to get the drive light to show. 
>The IDE adapter card has a 4 pin connector, and no matter what position
>the plug (a thin, two hole thing) is in the drive light stays out,
>regardless of the amount of disk activity.  

Obviously, that isn't the jumper.  Some controllers don't have an LED
jumper.  Or you may have just found the wrong one.  On my controller,
the proper pins were the outer two on the 4-position connector.  I
don't know what you'll do with only a 2-pin plug, though.  Your
controller's documentation usually mentions this.

PS: by "documentation", I mean the little 3"x5" piece of paper that
most people ignore that comes with the card.

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From: autry@sgi.com (Larry Autry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Adding RAM to on original IBM PC (w/64K motherbaord)!!!!!
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:14:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, St. Louis, MO
NNTP-Posting-Host: magellan.stlouis.sgi.com

In article <104075@netnews.upenn.edu> tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik) writes:
>I have an original 64K IBM PC which I'd like to use as a dumb terminal
>(running Procomm).
>
>However, I can't boot up DOS v3.2 (or above) on it.
>(it comes up with a "configuration too large for memory" error)
>
>Q: Can I add RAM to it so that I can boot it with DOS v3.2?
>Q: If so, how can I do this (the cheapest way)?
>Q: Are there any special jumpers on the 64K motherboad that I need to change)?
>Q: If I'm successful in adding RAM, will I then be able to load DOS v3.2
>   (and run procomm)?
>
>Any help would be *GREATLY* appreciated.
>Thanks in advance.
>
>--tony

This may not be the cheapest way, but in my opinion, it would be
the least hassle and your Q2-4 would all be answered satisfactorily.

Try checking in your local used computer store for a used or even new
motherboard.  Chances are, an 8088 or 8086 motherboard will only cost
about ~$50.  One, it will probably be faster (two speeds, 4.77 and
10/12 Mhz) and two, it should come completly populated with at least
640K.  Make sure that the M/B is tested and functional.  Don't pay good
money for as-is junk.
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Silicon Graphics, St. Louis
autry@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Info On Frame-Grabbers ?
From: Senthil Ramas Kumar <SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:59:04 EST
Organization: Penn State University

Hi pple: I am interested in buying a Frame-Grabber for my computer, because
I intend to do some image analysis.  Now, I would like to have some info on
the various grabberss, that are available on the market.  Does anyone know
where I can get this info ? FTP sites, FAQs, magazines, anyplace will do.

thankx again.

Kumar
From: ricardo@pencom.com (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: What is your dream machine?
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:44:22 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software

In article <29514@oasys.dt.navy.mil> lewis@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Lewis)  
writes:
> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, tn0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Timothy L. Nali) writes:
> >Now that I have the money to buy a "dream machine", I though I'd ask
> >what you think the ultimate 486 system should be.  I'm rather new to
> >buying "good" systems (I currently own a crappy 386-20), so I'd like to
> >hear what motherboards/monitors/HD controllers/etc. are best.
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >


My dream machine is the Epson Progression since rumors say that it is the  
fastest machine for running the NeXTSTEP operating system for the 486  
computers.  It uses the Wingine chip from Chips & Technologies that allows the  
CPU to address video memory directly.  Display PostScript seems to work faster  
with video cards that allow direct access to video RAM, so the Wingine is  
faster than VESA local bus.  I will also be able to run DOS/Windows besides  
NeXTSTEP '486.  I wonder if there are any graphics cards that plug into VESA  
local bus and allowthe CPU direct access to video RAM. 

Of course I want a 17" color display, 32MB RAM and a 550MB hard disk.
I haven't checked if the Epson Progression is upgradable to the P24T.

There's an article in Byte Magazine on the Epson Progression.

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Pencom Software
From: lmebold@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Which Fast-SCSI-II-hostadaptor to buy?
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:29:39 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

Hi

I'm on the way buying an EISA-Fast-SCSI-II-hostadaptor.
Which of the following hostadaptors is the best?
Be aware that I will use a Fast-SCSI-II-drive with the
EISA-host-adaptor. Also I want to use it with windows NT.

- Adaptec 1740
- Ultrastore 24F
- Buslogic 747s
- Future Domain
- AMI Fast NC  (does this controller work with NT?)

Any comments / experience /ideas?

Luke
From: larryd@stein.u.washington.edu (Larry Desoto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Lucky Computer
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:31:12 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan8.153755.16419@sequent.com> jimh@sequent.com (Jim Harrie) writes:
>Has anyone had any experience with Lucky Computer. We have one locally
>and it is very convenient. They seem to have good components and the
>people I've talked to seem knowledgable.
>The better components are usually upgrades like the Stealth or ATI
>Pro. They carry some good monitors like the Viewsonic 5+ and 7. The
>motherboard is very clean looking and has an Opti chipset. Hard drives
>are usually Conner or Western Digital. Prices are good.
>I'd be interested in any positive or negative feedback regarding
>them.
>-- 
> Jim Harrie (jimh@sequent.com) World Wide Technical Support 
> Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. (503) 578-5778 

I bought a motherboard and some other stuff from the one in Bellevue, WA.
They had reasonable prices and the sales people knew something about the
stuff they were selling.  I would buy from them again.

Larry

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: calkinsc@swarm.wustl.edu (Charles Calkins)
Subject: Diamond Viper
Keywords: IDE
Organization: Washington University in St. Louis, MO
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:30:53 GMT

	Does anyone know anything about the Diamond Viper VLB graphics card?
I've seen it advertised, but haven't yet been able to find a review.

						Thanks,

							Charles

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: cs_wmmok@uxmail.ust.hk (Raymond Mok -Maison)
Subject: S3 info
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:44:12 GMT


I am going to buy a S3 board but it seem that there are different S3 
chips available 911, 805, 804, etc. I don't know what is the difference and
which one is better. Can anyone pls tell me sth about this?


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From: marka@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Mark Ashley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Nanao 550
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:43:12 GMT
Organization: Harris Computers Systems Division, Fort Lauderdale,FL
NNTP-Posting-Host: hcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com

I'm looking at 17 inch monitors and have seen/heard the following
comments: NEC is problematic, MAG has a very small actual screen,
and Viewsonic doesn't have too high a refresh rate.

So now I'm looking at Nanao's 17 inch, specifically 
the 550 (can't remember the exact designation). Any body have
good or bad comments about this ?

There's also the 560 with a finer dot pitch but it's almost $2K
so it's out of my reach.

e-mail please. Thanks.


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From: dalessio@rtsg.mot.com (Mario D'Alessio)
Subject: Re: Gateway2000 486DX-33 ??
Keywords: Gateway
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:39:13 GMT

ngai@nova.bellcore.com (John Ngai) writes:

>OK, I saw all these messages about Gateway machines, so I thought I would share
>my experience too. I ordered my 486 DX2-66V system on Dec 2, and was promised
>delivery in 3 weeks. So I was keeping my fingers crossed hoping it would arrive
>before X'mas. I order the standard system but with 16MB ram, the 2MB ATI
>UltraPro upgrade, 256K cache and a tower case. (Oh, no monitor, since I opted
>for the 17" Taxan MV875+.) 

>Anyway, I did not receive it by X'mas, so I called Gateway, having a hard time
>getting through to their customer support. But left message to ask them call me
>back. And they did! Anyway, they told me they are backlogged due to the "holiday
>season". So I hope that I would receive my system before New Year. Instead I 
>received it on 1/4 (yes, just this Monday!) and they shipped it with Federal
>Express, and on the carton, I saw a sticker that specified delivery on Monday.
>Not bad. So it took me altogether a little more than 4 weeks to receive my
>system. 

I feel bad for all of you who had to wait a long time for
your systems. I ordered my system (486-33V with ATI upgrade
and tower case) on Dec. 14 and it arrived on Dec. 24. I
couldn't believe that it arrived on Christmas Eve. Maybe
their not THAT bad.

To everyone who is still waiting, good luck!

Mario


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From: cbusch@ub.d.umn.edu (Chris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: VGA board...
Date: 10 Jan 1993 02:39:19 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

   I am looking for a standard VGA board, and found an Acumos 16-bit
256k VGA board for sale.  I was wondering if anyone heard anything
negative about these boards, as well as, what the highest res mode it
can display.
Thanx

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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Packard Bell Experiences?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:53:53 GMT

In article <CARL.93Jan7141250@atlantis.Cayman.COM> carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl) writes:

>>Leading edges had proprietary motherboards, cases and power sup-
>>plies. No going out and buying a generic motherboard or PS for these
>>things.

>Same thing goes for Dell (at least *some* of their models).  I don't
>know if *all* Dells use proprietary motherboards or not.

As a matter of fact, I think any of the "low profile" clones are like
this, as is a lot of the brand name stuff (Dell, IBM, Compaq...)





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From: richards@mcnc.org (Bill Richards)
Subject: SIMM/SIPP info wanted
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:27:34 GMT

I recently acquired a 286/16MHz motherboard I want to use which has only 1Meg
of RAM on board. It can be expanded up to 4Meg via 4 30-pin SIPP sockets (1Meg
per socket). I really don't want to buy SIPPs, in the event of a 386/486 up-
grade. My question is, can I buy SIMMs and buy an adaptor of some sort, or
fashion one myself very easily? I don't know what the pin-outs are on either
SIMMs or SIPPs. does anyone have this info? If this is a totally stupid idea,
please let me know... thanks in advance...
							-bill richards-

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From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: In search of .... Quadram's Quadboard docs (switch settings)
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:09:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


I have a Quadboard (from Quadram Corp.) which I would like to use.
However, I don't have the docs.

Can anyone help me out on the RAM dip switch settings?

Thanks in advance.

--tony
From: thssamj@iitmax.iit.edu (Aditya M. Jani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: AT&T 6386 WGS keyboard error 8 ?
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:24:44 GMT
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology


Hi, 
I have an AT&T 6386 WGS.
I am having keyboard problems with it
When booting I get an error:
 
Keyboard error  : 8
Press F1 to continue

Does anybody know what the problem could be?
I can't press F1 as keyboard is not operational.

thanks
From: hwrvo@kato.lahabra.chevron.com (W.R. Volz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway Simms - 9 bit or 36 bit?
Keywords: SIMMS
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:42:59 GMT
Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research Company

In article <1993Jan5.164339.4604@oracle.us.oracle.com>, nparshot@ap1seq.us.oracle.com (Naresh Parshotam) writes:
|> I've been talking to some people about this and have received conflicting
|> answers from even the Gateway folks.  I believe there enough Gateway users
|> here in netland with this answer.  Can someone please tell me for certain
|> which Simms are used in the new Gateways? 
|> 
|> Also, is it wise to get them from a mail-order place and if so, does anyone
|> know of any which price these competitively?
|> 
|> Thanks in advance.
|> 
|> -naresh-

I just talked to my friendly gw salewoman yesterday on this. She said it uses
72 pin EISA memory. It costs a few $$$ more than standard nx[89] simms.
The question I have is this: It only takes the 4 mb or 16 mb 72 pin modules,
and won't take the 8 mb 72 pin module. I thought that one reason for the
72 pin, 36 bit version is so that you don't have to load 4 slots at once,
it's already 32 bits wide? So why wouldn't 8 mb simms work?? As usual
a call to their tech. service line was a waste of time. No one ever got back
to me.

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From: lilley@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Shannon Lilley)
Subject: Re: Lucky Computer
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:22:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.153755.16419@sequent.com> jimh@sequent.com (Jim Harrie) writes:
>Has anyone had any experience with Lucky Computer. We have one locally
>and it is very convenient. They seem to have good components and the
>people I've talked to seem knowledgable.
>The better components are usually upgrades like the Stealth or ATI
>Pro. They carry some good monitors like the Viewsonic 5+ and 7. The
>motherboard is very clean looking and has an Opti chipset. Hard drives
>are usually Conner or Western Digital. Prices are good.
>I'd be interested in any positive or negative feedback regarding
>them.
>-- 
> Jim Harrie (jimh@sequent.com) World Wide Technical Support 
> Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. (503) 578-5778 

The one here in Richardson is very competent. I bought my personal system from
them and we have a lot of their's here at work. They had the best price for
what I wanted except for my monitor, Viewsonic 5, which I found cheaper
elsewhere. They have my recommendation.

Shannon Lilley
lilley@spdc.ti.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Epson LQ-800 Pin Settings?
From: rz63633@stewball.d50.lilly.com (Gregg A. Mantock)
Date: 8 Jan 93 09:02:12 EST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Eli Lilly and Company
Keywords: Epson

Hi,

I recently inherited an Epson LQ-800 printer, and am having
difficulties getting it to print graphics in Windows 3.1.  I
noticed in the \windows\printers.wri file that a couple of
pin settings need to be set/not set on the printer.  As it
was an inherited printer, I have no documentation defining
the pin switches (20 on the rear of the printer).

Could someone whom has the docs/knowledge please either
E-mail the info to mantock@lilly.com, or post it here.

Thanks,
Gregg
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