From: bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool With A Plan)
Subject: Re: Nazis International
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:17:28 GMT

In article <1eaan2INNc4c@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.073939.21827@muddcs.claremont.edu> bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool Without A Plan) writes:
>>The point wasn't to make you laugh anyways.  It was to make you think.
>>Can't you see the similarities?  Sure,  Amazons don't go around killing
>>men or anything,  but the basic premise behind BOTH general ideals is
>>almost identical.  You may not see it,  but I do.  I suppose it may be
>>just how you look at it,  or if you even bother to in the first place.
>
>Except that you totally ignore the power hierarchy.  The two are totally
>different in practice, regardless of their theoretical similarity.  One
>group supports oppression, the other supports self-determination of an
>already oppressed group.  You may not see it, but I do.

I see what you're saying...  I'm sorry I forgot to MENTION the similarity
I saw.  Well,  remember that the Nazis had this thing about Aryans
and how they were the super-race.  They did everything they could to wipe
out other 'worthless' races in order to further their own super-race.
Well,  aren't legendary Amazons just a super-race of females?  And
who would they oppress ( given the power to oppress ) in order to further
themselves?  Why,  men and weak females. 

And I feel that a similarity like this is enough.  Remember that Nazi's
didn't oppress people before they were in power,  even though they
existed.  They acquired power.  I realize that the Amazons aren't
a German political party or anything,  but it's not a perfect foolproof
relation.  I'm just relating a VERY GENERAL ideology here.

Oh,  one more thing:  Females may be an 'already oppressed group',  but
somehow I imagine Amazon women kicking the shit out of Arnold Schwarzenegger,
not to mention rich white oppressive males.  I just don't see how
Amazons in particular can be considered 'oppressed' since they hardly
even exist.  I'm beginning to think this whole thing is getting too
ridiculous...  which was what I was trying to point out in the first place.

>Nothing is just how you look at it unless you are implying that there is
>no such thing as the truth, in which case I am certainly wasting my time.

When you're trying to relate two things,  there's so many ways to
do it that you might not see it the same way I do.  And it has not
a whole lot to do with truth either...  I would be willing to spew
lies upon lies in order to get people to think a little differently
about things.

>>It would have been pretty harmless to spoof it with "Hippies International"
>>or "Adolescents International",  but there would have been absolutely
>>no point.  
>
>What the hell was the point of what you did spoof?

There may not have been much of a point,  but YOU try relating
hippies to amazons.

Oh,  and about that power hierarchy stuff...  how the fuck am I supposed
to consider that when I have no clue where Amazons fit in on this
hierarchial ladder?  Are you just being pedantic?  Because if you are,
it's not all that impressive.

-brett
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