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From: djn20624@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Danielson)
Subject: FTP for simpson's story lines
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:58:16 GMT

	Hi, I probably know this has been address Ackermans(4,1) times, but
is there an ftp site to get all those LONG summaries of the simpsons
episodes?  I saw many of the titles of Raymond Chen's (??) summaries on 
the nn title reader but they were all expired!!!



Thanks,
   Dan.

From: John.DeCarlo@p109.f131.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John DeCarlo)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: The License Plate
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:28:30 -0500

On <Apr 09 19:34>, Jeff Neau (jeffy@cray.com ) wrote:

 JN >Did anyone notice the license plate on the honeymoonmobile?  It said

 JN >IH8BART

Any videotapers get all the similar license plates SB was making in prison?
From: chuck@MooreNet.COM (Chuck Ocheret)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: a few new(?) dyns
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:37:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: bacon.3624
Organization: Moore Capital Management, Inc. NYC

>	This technique is difficult to do, and is rarely used.  A couple of
>modern examples where it is used to good effect are Jaws and Night of the 
>Creeps, although it was (I believe) pioneered by Alfred Hitchcock and used
>extensively in Vertigo.  Brian DePalma also used it in one of his Hitchcock
>rip-offs, the title of which escapes me.

This technique is also used by Tobe Hooper in Poltergeist.

~chuck
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From: joe@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Joe Nappa)
Subject: (aus.) Radio Bart...DYN?
Reply-To: joe@archsci.arch.su.oz.au (Joe Nappa)
Organization: Dept of Architectural & Design Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 05:25:41 GMT


DYN the use of that famous pice of Faltermeier (sp?) music from Beverly Hills
Cop as Bart climbed into the well to retrieve his radio.
BTW it's a good thing that the Scots don't make a big deal about being an
oppressed minority otherwise they would have something to complain about in
the portrayal of the Scottish (?) farmer (does anyone know if he has a name)
who Bart first fools into thinking he's fallen down the well. We're going
through quite a vociferous debate about racism in Australia at the moment.
Native Australians have complained bitterly about their portrayal in comic
routines. It's interesting to observe how much comedy relies fundamentally
on ethnic stereotypes -- you can't do away with it (where would you draw the 
line?) and yet some people are calling for legal action and bans. Makes you
realise how rare a sense of homour is -- they're obviously not Simpsons fans!!

Joe

Joe Nappa                  *************************************************** 
joe@archsci.arch.su.oz.au  *"As genitals to wanton boys are we to th' gods   *
Dept. of Architec. Science * They play with us for their  sport"             *
Uni. of Sydney, AUSTRALIA  * -- Blackadder II  (appo-logies to W.Shakespeare)*
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Krusty reading
Organization: Dynamic Graphics Project, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:57:49 GMT

kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes:
>Illiteracy is rarely total.  Krusty can read a little bit ...

Well, if so, I bet he could read his own name, yet in Like Father, Like Clown,
he says "deeee-eeeer,... Krust...  Why..." (i.e. by "Why" I mean saying the
name of the letter Y).

My conclusion is that using what may be called comic license they are saying
that his illiteracy is basically total.  ('Course, between then and now he may
have moved on to lesser things, illiteracy-wise, as others have noted.)
From: atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Dinosaurs
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:16:17 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


In article <sf0vhINNfk7@cs.widener.edu> STEIN@LTUVAX.BITNET writes:
>Nowhere did
>they make fun of the show, they only commented that the shows have a passing
>simularity.

"It's like they took our lives and put them right up on the screen!" seems more
than a mention of passing similarity to me.  Plus Lisa's comment about "They
seem more real than most real TV families":  exactly what people say about
"The Simpsons".
  __
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 __)teve
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: sullivans@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: Re: The License Plate
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:21:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.193127.22628@yenta.alb.nm.us>, bob@yenta.alb.nm.us (Bob Knight) writes:
> jeffy@cray.com (Jeff Neau) writes:
> 
>>Did anyone notice the license plate on the honeymoonmobile?  It said
> 
>>IH8BART
> 
>>or
> 
>>"I hate Bart"
> 
> 
>>Ha HA HA HA HA HA
> 
>>jeff
> 
> This was one of several that Sideshow Bob stamped out in the joint.
> (Where-is-Springfield enthusiasts may have noticed that the plate
> was yellow on blue, like old California plates, but the state name
> at the top simply said `Springfield'.)
Connecticut's are like that too.


-		Sean

Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: jac15@po.CWRU.Edu (Jeffrey A. Curtis)
Subject: RE: Dinosaurs
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 19:32:03 GMT


Well, not being a big fan of the Dinosaurs show, I immediately
took Bart's comment to be a sarcastic slam against the show,
much in the same vein as a comment by Homer in an earlier
episode about the dreadful comic-strip, "Marmaduke", where
Homer is reading the funnies and comments along the lines of,
"Hee Hee--that darn Marmaduke! What will he do next?"  Now,
anyone with any sense of taste of the art of comics (I know I'm
starting to sound elitist here...), like Matt Groening, would
know what a mundane and stupid strip Marmaduke is--right down
there with Garfield...
-- 
=======>My Smile Is Stuck:  I Cannot Go Back To Your Frownland!..
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: dascoser.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Subject: Another in-joke for 4/9
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:21:31 GMT

Sideshow Bob's number in prison is 24601, the same number Jean Valjean 
had in Les Misarables (sp)

Dascoser

"Stars. In their multitude......." -- Les Mis
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: c8923075@frey.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Subject: (aus) Mr Lisa goes to Washington,,
Keywords: simpsons butchered
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Uni of Newcastle, Oz.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:33:35 GMT

-- (aus)  Mr Lisa goes to Washington  ----------------------------------------

Timings:
    (aus)  {0:48} (6:51) (13:46) (17:37) [20:46] {0:45}  {adjusted -1.2%}
    (usa)  {0:48} (6:52) (13:49)	 [20:48] {}
    (usaII)	  (6:46)		 [20:26]

Ok, so I may not have been responsible in changing Channel Ten's attitude...
but I happen to know about the next issue of SIOz,, :)

Notes,,
    - Am I the only person to think that Bart's hat/stance/expression while
      shown the airplane cockpit had despotic overtones?

    - A VeeDub appears for the second time.  (the first was during Burn's
      testimony in ``Bart gets hit by a Car'')

    - Wes Archer's (old) phone number hasn't been air-brushed out.

    - When Maggie topples, her face flattens out pancake-style.

Yet-Another-Obscure-Reference:	Lisa's ``Pork barrelling'' dream
reminds me of a "Punch" cartoon circa ~86 ... had something to do with
El Salvador and the American State dept.  It featured `Uncle Sam'
emptying greenbacks into a trough before several well-dressed piggies.


Misc,,
    Seen the Vetta Pasta commercial?  I fail to see how someone with a
NY accent, VO'ing "Yo!  Dude!" has got to do with the Simpsons.  In
fact, to my recollection Bart has never once said "Dude" during the
show.

For those of you who turned off their VCRs straight after the closing
credits,, The Simpsons won't be shown next week because of some
religious programme of limited appeal ...  It beats be why they always
show the ``The Ten Commandments'' at Easter for anyway.

--
    Chris J. Baird, Esq.	,--_|\	 Quiz: What's Maggie Simpson/
Impoverished BSc undergrad     / o O  \ 	Groening's full name?
      @ Newcastle Uni	       \_.--._/~
c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au     v

Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: flournoy@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Raymond Suke Flournoy)
Subject: One more DYN from "Return of SSBob"
Originator: flournoy@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:16:42 GMT


  One more cute DYN that caught my eye on second viewing is the
characters on top of Selma and Bob's wedding cake.  They are
mini-copies of the two.  You only see them in silhouette, and the
dome-headed bride could admittedly be anyone with a veil.  But there
is no mistaking Bob's trademark palm-tree hairdo.

  How romantic, huh?


--Raymond Flournoy        
======================================================================
flournoy@cs.stanford.edu         "For reasons I cannot explain
Computer Science Dept.            There's some part of me wants to see 
Stanford University, CA           Graceland"               -- P. Simon
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: rjc@onion.princeton.edu (Raymond Chen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: The License Plate
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:34:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Apr16.163430.1807
Organization: Abject Admirers of Lisa Simpson

I say the name of the state is "Springfield".  Note, for example...

   [7f15] The drivers licence says SPRINGFIELD across the top
   [7f18] The letter is addressed, ``Marge Bouvier, Springfield, USA''
   [8f20] The licence plate says SPRINGFIELD across the top

P.S. Sprinkle lots and LOTS of smileys.

On the topic of Krusty's illiteracy:  Clearly they knew who the
winner was ahead of time, because they had an Emmy in Bob's cell
ready to hand to him.  Though Krusty seemed surprised when he
opened the envelope.
--
Raymond ``Where is he?  I thought he said noon!''[7f06 ] Chen
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Maggie's UPC code...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 15:24:44 GMT

macster@IASTATE.EDU (Michael C Mccarty) writes:

>	I hate to ask this because I know everyone hates people that write in FAQ's but
>I haven't been able to get a hold of the FAQ list yet so here it goes...
> 
>	I was told a few years ago that when Maggie gets run over the reader in the
>checkout line in the opening credits that the register display shows something
>different every time.  But because its only on for a split second, you have to
>freeze it on a VCR in order to read what the display says.  For instance, I
>guess in one of the early episodes that it read out $1000 (and odd cents), and
>Marge's reaction was one of :-o.  Can anyone verify this ( I haven't had a
>chance to, my VCR doesn't do frame-by-frame.), and are they still doing it in
>the newer credits?

I think it's the same price every time--something on the order of $800.


                                           --Steve Stelter
                                             sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: c8923075@frey.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Subject: (aus) Lisa the Greek,,
Keywords: simpsons
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Uni of Newcastle, Oz.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:42:13 GMT


--- (aus)  Lisa the Greek  ----------------------------------------------------

Timings,,
    Original:	{0:21} (8:10) (14:42) [21:00] {}
    Apr 5th :	  "        "        "        "

A cut title sequence, but this also occurred in the USA and Canada.  The
mystery to what has allowed the last few episodes to be shown in full? 
Channel Ten has now adopted 15 second station promos, which, over a
half-hour, provides an extra 90 seconds,, Excellent stuff.

It's great to see Maggie appearing more often.  I can really relate to Bart
being forced to shop for new clothes,,  Hands up all everyone with a
overbearing mother!  Raise the other if you've also developed a morbid fear
of ever entering another Op-Shop!

Animation goofs,,
    - Where did the pen Bart used in the changing booth come from, hmm?
    - Lisa's eyelashes disappear while she reads her essay.

The long awaited ``Mr Lisa goes to Washington'' this Sunday!

There's a few new images avalible in the ftp directory /pub/incoming
/simpsons/incoming on this machine.  They'll be kept there for the next
few weeks before I move them into their respective directories. 

    BairdPics.cpt.hqx	- A collection of MacPaint versions of the pictures
			  in the /bairdpics directory.
    Lisa_on_Sax.gif	- Thanks to Gavin McCormick
    Lisa_Kissed.gif 	- A 320x256x16 frame grab from ``Bart the General''.
			  Submitted by Gavin McCormick.

NB: The /gifs directory is intended for Australia-bound users,, and the
/pub/incoming path is used because this is not a `official' activity of
the Maths dept.

--
  Chris Baird ``Free the 33!''
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: rcarter@isis.cs.du.edu (Ron Carter)
Subject: Re: [8F20] The Return of Sideshow Bob (or is it `Black Widower'?)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 17:36:41 GMT

Raymond... (`...and I now pronounce you...' Chen)...

Now, I know it is -not- the definitive source for the name of shows,
but the local TV `guide' shows the title to 8F20 to be `Black Widower'...
Was there a change along the line to `The Return...' or what?

Ron `still Big Shirtless...' Carter

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: as16@quads.uchicago.edu (adam  shah)
Subject: Re: The return of Sideshow Bob
Reply-To: as16@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:13:43 GMT

In article <92Apr9.204651edt.144354@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>
>
>I'll have to watch it at least once more before I give a review.  It was quite
>weird.  And what was that bit about Democrats at the end?  It hardly seems
>consistent with the goal of annoying Republicans...  It also hardly seems
>consistent with all the good swipes at the cops and the prison system.
>


I took this bit differently.  When describing life in prison, Sideshow Bob
telss us that he is a lifelong Republican.  I thought that his final
statement about getting free was therefore the ultimate dig at Republicans.

It shows that Republicans are much to paranoid about the Democrats' softness
on crime.  It shows how silly it is to think that everyone will be freed
from jail if the Republicans lose the presidency by the mere absurdity of
the lines he speaks.

Or maybe MG is just becoming more fair in who he makes fun of...
Naaaaaaah...



-- 
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I would give my real address but who would write?
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: April 9 Episode
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 17:01:09 GMT

In article <32664@darkstar.ucsc.edu> atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller) writes:
>>how did OFF get a hold of the honeymoon videotape *as Selma was filming it*?
>
>If you mean Selma showing the cheapness of the cassette (T-60?!?  :) ), I think
>that was the tape sleeve she was holding.

Well, the continuity was weird.  The Simpson are watching the end of the
tape, and then the scene cuts back to the hotel at the exact same point in
time that the videocassette ended.  Maybe it was a flashback.  I dunno.
-- 
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Chi, IL 60637      +  Doylestown Borough, PA over a game of Monopoly.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: dube@milton.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube)
Subject: Re: The Return of Sideshow Bob
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:13:33 GMT

NHT@psuvm.psu.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>Really.  NOT everything is a reference to anything else.  Look.  If
>the creators of 'The Simpsons' did episodes which just ripped everything
>from TV, the movies, books, or whatever, they would be called unoriginal.
>*I* would call them unoriginal.  I prefer to see original stories with
>the occasional 'reference', not references held together by some asinine
>piece of claptrap.
>For a change of pace, why not have an episode in which *nothing* is
>a reference to *anything*?  Of course, posters to alt.tv.simpsons would
find them all.

Hear, hear.  Or have we all forgotten the most famous "reference" of all?
"When they were all eating supper at the table it was a reference to all
those old Waltons episodes where they ate supper."

d
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: mckenzi@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (MCKENZIE  ROBERT NEIL)
Subject: "Sideshow Bob" episode --> Les Miserables reference
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: alt.tv.simpsons
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:48:11 GMT


The "Sideshow Bob" episode on April 9th made a passing reference to
Victor Hugo's book-now Broadway musical- Les Miserables....

    Convict #24601 was the main character, Jean Valijean

Rob McKenzie
mckenzi@ecf.utoronto.ca


Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: bwatson@isis.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Holy Frijoles
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:18:09 GMT

Holy Frijoles, it's 10 minutes to MacGiver.

It was also 10 minutes to Judge Wapner in Rain Man, yeah.
From: atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: OFF, lutefisk, and an influence suggestion (was Re: April 9 Episode)
Date: 12 Apr 92 04:15:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32714
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


In article <92Apr11.190146edt.144354@explorer.dgp.toronto.edu> flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) writes:
>We wanted to test the hypothesis that some ideas manage to make their way from
>alt.tv.simpsons on to the show.

Aha!  So:  has there been any evidence of this so far (IOW, what prompted the
hypothesis?)
  __
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From: atario@cats.ucsc.edu (Stephen Wayne Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: The Return of Side-show Bob
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:45:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


In article <1992Apr12.222855.25367@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> jcl@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (John C. Laviolette) writes:
>    Yes.  Remember the wedding-planning scene, where Marge mentions the
>wedding dress?  She says: "I don't know how to put this, but..." and Selma
>answers "White!"

Ah, but as someone else pointed out here (and how I initially interpreted it),
that could be like the cliche of a woman, asked her age for the purposes of a
form, sternly replying, "39!".

>    Oh, and: my method for telling Patty and Selma apart is: Selma's hair
>looks sort of like an "M" in its outline  --  and her name is the one with
>an "m" in the middle.

True.  Plus all the other differences given in that cast list.  But there's one
not listed there which I have noticed:  Selma wears "S"-shaped earrings.
  __
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From: stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Cat Stanton)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: The Return of Side-show Bob
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:07:01 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Apr13.151020.22716@panix.com> eck@panix.com (Mark Eckenwiler) writes:
>In <1992Apr12.222855.25367@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>, jcl@sactoh0.sac.ca.us stated:
>> 
>>    Yes.  Remember the wedding-planning scene, where Marge mentions the
>>wedding dress?  She says: "I don't know how to put this, but..." and Selma
>>answers "White!"
>
>I interpreted that exchange entirely differently.  Marge seemed to be
>suggesting that some *other* color besides the standard white might be
>appropriate, for reasons which are easy enough to infer.  Selma's
>response may not be grounded in fact, but rather in personal
>preference. (My wife wore white even though we lived together for 5
>years before Doing The Holy.)
>
I would have enjoyed someone intserting 'plaid' into there as an
option for Selma's wedding dress. :)  Yes, I took it to mean that
Selma shouldn't be wearing white myself.

Cat Stanton
From: burley@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Craig Burley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: The Return of Sideshow Bob
Date: 16 Apr 92 08:03:40 GMT
Organization: Free Software Foundation 545 Tech Square Cambridge, MA 02139
In-reply-to: saffer@eniac.seas.upenn.edu's message of 15 Apr 92 19:23:34 GMT

In article <74153@netnews.upenn.edu> saffer@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Heidi Saffer ) writes:

   Who the hell is Kelsey Grammar? I recognize his voice and I cannot figure
   it out. Somebody help me!!!!!!!

Frasier on Cheers.
--

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: [8F20] The Return of Sideshow Bob (or is it `Black Widower'?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:40:11 GMT

rjc@onion.princeton.edu (Raymond Chen) writes:

>Ron ``I like TV Guide because it comes already freeze-framed'' Carter
>points out the title discrepancy between his local TV `guide' and the
>one Brian Howard provided ever-so-kindly for us.

>I may not know about Ron's local `Guide' but TV Guide itself has been
>known to screw up episode titles many times.  (Don't even remind me of
>what TV Guide thought the title to ``Bart Gets an F'' was.)  And they
>don't restrict their title manglings to OFF, either.


Okay, I'll bite: What title did they give for "Bart Gets an F"?

                                    --Steve Stelter
                                      sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: The Return of Side-show Bob
Keywords: You're feet smell like perfume
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:14:32 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Albuquerque NM

In article <1992Apr10.014920.27865@udel.edu> wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr) writes:
>
>Yes!  Great episode!

Agreed.

>[...]
>This episode was good not so much for the story (I mean why did Sideshow
>Bob want to kill Selma to begin with?  To get back at Bart?!)

They explained that.  Selma was somewhat rich because she invested in Mace
"before the collapse of society".


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