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From: an7393@anon.penet.fi (Bryan_Montgomery)
Subject:  Looking for a job / sponsorship in Albany New York
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: misc.jobs.misc
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:45:45 GMT

Hello,
      I hope this is an appropriate place for this posting as I am unable
to actually read the newsgroup, it is just a name that I was given!

I am hoping to move to Albany NY in March or April of this year. I
graduated from Portsmouth Polytechnic last July with an Bachelor of
Engineering Honours Degree in Electrical and Electronic Engineering.
This was a four year course, of which the third was spent working at
IBM Havant where I became responsible for maintaining PC driven test
software. My final year of the course was spent specialising in ADA and
Microwaves & Telecommunications. I have also spent some time on 'C', UNIX
and Pascal. We also covered Analogue and Digital Electronics, VLSI,
Electrostatics, Advanced Microprocessors, Control, Software Design and
Management Skills.

I am currently working for IBM UK, which is where I spent a year working
as an Industrial Trainee / Co-op. I have been accepted to RPI for a
Masters Program in Computer Engineering but I am currently unable to
fund my study. I am also waiting for a Fiancee Visa from the INS, which
will allow me to enter the US and start work. Hopefully this will be
issued sometime in March or April.

I am currently working on a project that is mainly PC based to measure
Power Supply voltages of the Network controllers that are built here in
Havant. Besides this interest in computing I have also under gone
training the Royal Air Force and have a Private Pilots License and an
FAA waiver. I am a Queens' Scout (equivalent to Eagle Scout) and I am
also hoping to continue my work within the community by joining a
Volunteer Fire Department.

I would be interested in any positions available, either for a short
term or longer, I would also be interested in any sponsorship that may
be available to help me with my Masters Programme.

I'd gladly welcome any comments or advice that you may have to offer, and
to supply any further details that you would like.

Thanks,
        Bryan.

PS, I believe there is a problem with this poster that sends out
duplicate entries - sorry.
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: jim@options.uujobs.com (Jim Johnson)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: --> Headhunters!! Please Read This!! <--
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:26:14 EST
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: world
Organization: Options Unltd., Silver Spring, MD

With all the headhunters posting in mjo, I'm curious as to how many
follow this group.

If you're a headhunter, please respond via email.

Thanks.


--> Options Unlimited                            Jim Johnson, CPC <--
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: gary@resumix.portal.com (Gary M. Lin)
Subject: Re: Scanning resumes?
Organization: Resumix Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 01:14:02 GMT

mcover@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark Coverdill) writes:

>A reference was made on the news (CNN?) about the new administration
>receiving resumes for cabinet positions.  It indicated that as these
>resumes came in they were automatically computer scanned and then
>filed by job type. They showed what appeared to be a workstation with
>a image of the resume on the screen.

>I was only half listening and missed some details. Could anybody tell
>me what office accepts these resumes and what type of equipment and
>software they use to file these resumes?

The Clinton-Gore transition team (actually now the administration) leased the
Resumix R3000 resume-processing system which consists of a turnkey solution of
hardware and software for automated scanning, processing, searching and match-
ing of resumes.  Their configuration consists of networked Sun workstations and
PC clients, although Resumix is available for DECstations, RS/6000's and Motor-
ola platforms.  Query clients may be Macs or PCs running X-Windows software.

Resumes are scanned one page per 3 seconds (max) into the database server, from
there OCR and data extraction are performed.  For each applicant, the system
compiles information on your education, work experience, job history and list
of available skills.  Operators then verify the extracted data as correct and
print a response letter to the applicant.  Recruiters create requisitions which
match position requirements against the available resumes.  Those highlighted
are forwarded for further review.

The advantages for the employer are: lower costs for processing incoming res-
umes, better search and retrieval, and guaranteeing no one gets "lost" in the
system.  Clinton-Gore guarantees each resume receives a response letter which
is selected based on their interest in you.  Cost for the system?  The admin-
istration is leasing the system, but the hardware they're using to track an
estimated 100,000 resumes is worth $500K.  Entry level is somewhere around
$40-50K for single-workstation configuration.  Most of the purchases have been
by large Fortune 500 companies.

Their network has several SPARC workstations and gigabytes of disk storage.
Granted this isn't a typical installation, but Resumix was contacted very
shortly after the election to assist the transition team in its efforts.


						- Gary M. Lin
						Product Support Engineer
						gary@resumix.portal.com
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From:  Ivan Zvorygin <zvor@falcon.nsk.su>
Subject: Employment for Russians
Reply-To: zvor@falcon.nsk.su
Organization: Falcon Consulting Co.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:58:59 +0700

     Dear sirs,

     I'm interesting in the e-mail adresses  of any
     firms in USA, Canada, Western Europe and Australia,
     employing the Russian people.
     If anybody can help me,please reply to the e-mail:
     zvor@falcon.nsk.su
     Best regards,
                                    Ivan A. Zvorygin

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang)
Subject: Buying job listings
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: misc
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:31:03 GMT


I ocasionally see ads for a listing of "hundreds" of computer (programming
I guess) jobs that are available.  Usually for around $25.  Are these
things worth purchasing?

--
Jeff Tang
jefft@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: 401K
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:48:06 GMT

In article <mjc.727738531@NL.CS.CMU.EDU> mjc+@cs.cmu.edu (Monica Cellio) writes:
>The reason that 401(k) plans are considered to be a win is that you are 
>gambling that your tax rate when you take the money out will be lower than 
>it is now.  Of course, if your tax rate rises due to (more) fiscal 
>irresponsibility on the part of the folks in Washington, you lose. 

That is only one of the advantages.  The tax rate may be higher when you withdraw.
First, income taxes are at record post-WWII levels.  Clinton could easily raise them
so you pay more tax in the future than by deferring.  Second there is an implicit
tax increase called bracket creep.  Even with modest inflation of 5%, everything
including income and prices with be four times higher 30 year from now.

The other advantage is that you let *all* of the interest work for you for 30 years
rather than giving 40% of it away every year.   This becomes a significant effect
in ten years or so.  My IRA is now generating more money in interest on interest than
I can make as a yearly contribution.
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Buying job listings
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:11:59 GMT
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Distribution: misc
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: alhambra.pa.dec.com

In article <JEFFT.93Jan20213055@shim-sham.mit.edu>, jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang) writes:
|> I ocasionally see ads for a listing of "hundreds" of computer (programming
|> I guess) jobs that are available.  Usually for around $25.  Are these
|> things worth purchasing?

Where did they get these listings?  There are hundreds of jobs listed
on USENET and you can get those for free.  A few newspapers will also give
you lots of listings for a dollar or 2.  Some sources do have inside
information, though I suspect that they have more profitable ways of
using it than selling $25 listings.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: mcampbel@cs.ucf.edu (Mike Campbell )
Subject: Re: 401K
Organization: University of Central Florida
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:40:55 GMT

stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini) writes:

>In article <1993Jan20.151036.18196@lpi.liant.com> joes@tgs.com writes:
>>In article <ram.727427037@aleph.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu>, ram@cis.ksu.edu (Ramakrishna Chitturu) writes:

>The $3,750 is really only worth $2,808 because you have to pay taxes on it when it
>the money is withdrawn.  It is worth even less than that if you withdraw it before retirement.
>However, one is hoping for the "interest on interest" effect that can be quite significant
>over several decades.

Keep in mind that the 401k money is taxed ONLY ONCE at the time of
withdrawl.

If you kept the same money in a savings account, you are taxed EVERY YEAR
on the same money - that's where the tax deferment advantage is.  

So your 3750 is NOT worth the same in a 401k as in a regular not deferred
savings account.


Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: upcr@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Pamela Reed)
Subject: Previous article on USENET reexplanation 
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:24:57 GMT

Hi.  The reason why I am concerned on using USENET is because I have
been reading a few articles saying there are many job posts offerings
on the USENET I was curious on how to get to the USENET. So please
dont flame me and send me email regarding that I should look elsewhere
for help. I just would like to know how to connect to USENET and use
the job resources there also...
                       Pam
From: chchen@milton.u.washington.edu (C-CHEN)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: IBM Highly Parallel Supercomputing Systems Lab
Date: 21 Jan 1993 06:05:32 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: chchen@u.washington.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: milton.u.washington.edu

I am trying to send my resume to the Highly Parallel Supercomputing
Systems Lab of IBM. Can the netter who knows the mailing address 
tell me that? I'd appreciate your help very much.
From: jmccombi@bbn.com (Jon McCombie)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: career search firms
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:08:03 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: ne
Reply-To: jmccombi@bbn.com. (Jon McCombie)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

The other day I sent a query about a career search firm called the S.S.W.
Company.  The silence of the response has been deafening.  Let me
re-phrase the question slightly:

Have you used a "career search" firm or "executive marketing" firm?
Which one?  How much did it cost?  Was it worth it?  Would you do it
again?

Jon
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: subbarao@fc.hp.com (Kartik Subbarao)
Subject: Re: Is three pages too long for a resume?
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: subbarao@fc.hp.com
Organization: putchar('I'); for (i = 0; i < 3; i++) putchar('E');
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 03:09:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.024407.14341@odin.corp.sgi.com> kerry@brabo.esd.sgi.com (Kerry McCracken) writes:
>In article <93022.135529F0O@psuvm.psu.edu>, F0O@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>|> 
>|>    Hi netters!
>|> 
>|>    My resume now is two pages, and I couldn't squeeze any more into
>|> those
>|> two pages.  I will start another job at the beginning of February and
>|> this
>|> will certainly push my resume into three pages.
>|>    Are three pages too much if you feel all the information is
>|> relevant?
>|> I don't want the resume to be too long, and have the potential employer
>|> not even look at it, but on the other hand, I don't want to keep out
>|> any
>|> information which might get me hired.

[Bunch O responses saying that > 1 page is too much]

Here is yet another ``myth'' -- That somehow, Hiring managers will NEVER
READ beyond the first page. This is entirely untrue. 

Sure, if it's three pages of prose I can see how someone might get bored.
But if you jazz it up add a creative touch, and make them WANT to read
onwards, they most certainly will.

My resume was FOUR "pages" long. (and this is when I graduated from college :-))
But it fit on only one piece of paper. Take your standard 8.5" x 11", fold
it in half down the middle, rotate it 90 degrees, and what do have? A
miniature book book about yourself, with built-in features like a title
page, a back cover, and two pages in the middle.

Get creative and you can do anything!

	-Kartik
From: w2lee@argo.acs.oakland.edu (Walter Lee)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Moronic "Federal Job Opportunities Bulletin Board"
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:58:18 GMT
Reply-To: w2lee@argo.acs.oakland.edu
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester, MI

In article <1k4f15INNp3a@digex.digex.com>, tjones@access.digex.com (Tom Jones) writes:

>The BBS demands a password, and no indication is provided on the BBS
>or "Announcement #414" about how to get one.  It seems particularly
>stupid of our bureaucrats to provide a complete list of seven
>different BBSs that are ALL inaccessible without a password--and then
>not say how to get one.
>
>Now I know that the Federal government is completely incompetent, and
>that people who screw up telling you how to get information about their
>open positions probably aren't worth working for. 

Most likely the list of passwords is available for download on the BBS...

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Walter Lee                                          w2lee@argo.acs.oakland.edu

Those who bring sunshine to the lives of others cannot keep it from
themselves.
                                -- Sir James Barrie
From: te_ind01@oswego.Oswego.edu
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: -* Applying for a Computer Sales Job *-
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:55:04 GMT
Reply-To: te_ind01@oswego.Oswego.edu ()
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY
Originator: te_ind01@gidney.oswego.edu


	I will be moving to Lexington, Kentucky soon and want to
find a job with a small to medium size computer company in the sales
department.
	I have limited computer experience (Unix, heavy-Mac) but I am
quite sharp, hard working, and have a near perfect memory. My questions 
is threefold:

	1) A friend who does this same thing says the money is good
	   if you apply yourself...and thoughts? 
	2) Do I need more computer experience or can I learn it on 
	   the job?
	3) What is the best way to apply for this job? Resume? In        
	   person? Classifieds? 
	
	Any information would be appreciated. Please reply by email.
Thanks. 

David Crump 
State University of New York at Oswego
te_ind01@gidney.oswego.edu
From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Is three pages too long for a resume?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 14:09:11 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu

In article <1993Jan26.122913.27676@topaz.comlab.ox.ac.uk> Peter.Breuer@prg.oxford.ac.uk (Peter Breuer) writes:
>In article <1jqkpeINNpf@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@centauri.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>
>>3 pages is far far far to long.
>
>And exactly how I am I supposed to fit four postdoc and faculty
>positions, three degrees, and one hundred publications into two pages?
>(Mind you, if you _could_ tell me how ...)

   Resumes and CVs are different things.  Business and education/research
are different things.  Different countries have different customs.  I
suspect you should ignore the US-centric, business-centric tone of
most of the advice in this newsgroup, and get a good book about
looking for an academic job.
--
Joel Plutchak, Research Programmer/Analyst
"I'm mentally OVERDRAWN!"
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Mail about misguided m.j.o posting gets terse response
From: jtrumbul@coast.almanac.bc.ca (Jim Trumbull)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 02:36:54 PST
Organization: Coast Personnel Services Ltd. Nanaimo, B.C.

Karl_Kleinpaste@cs.cmu.edu writes:

> I didn't go on at great length, I didn't insult his intelligence, I
> didn't demean his parentage, I just suggested (perhaps sarcastically)
> that he was being foolish, since cars for sale have rather little to
> do with job offerings.
> 
> I thought you all might be amused to know that Mr Gordon has responded
> with a true masterwork of erudition, to wit:
> 
>    Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 08:31:03 EST
>    From: gordon@cadillac.siemens.com (Igor Gordon)
>    To: Karl_Kleinpaste@GODIVA.NECTAR.CS.CMU.EDU
>    Subject: Re:  FOR SALE: Ford Torus Wagen
> 
>    fuck you too
> 
> That's it -- no actual cognition involved, obviously; just raw attitude.
> 
> Style points for succinctness, though.

Tsk, tsk, tsk ...  I shared in the same thoughts as yourself Karl, but I did
not send Igornorant Gordon any email.  Gotta do that now!

L8r,
WALKIN\JIM

_______________________________________________________________________________

   Coast Personnel Services Ltd., 103-65 Front Street, Nanaimo, B.C. V9R 5H9
   Professional Personnel Placement, From the Heart of Vancouver Island
   1-604-753-4465 (Voice)    Compuserve: 71754,2135      1-604-753-2278 (Fax)
   jtrumbul@coast.almanac.bc.ca  (InterNet)                      Jim Trumbull
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Jobs in Maine/New Hampshire/Vermont
From: ccs@n8ppd100.DOMAIN.NOT.SET (Chris C. Swift)
Date: 20 Jan 93 03:44:12 +1700

Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 16:22:13 GMT
Reply-To: ccs@n8ppd100.DOMAIN.NOT.SET (Chris C. Swift)
Organization: BNR, Inc.


Does anyone have any information on Jobs/Headhunters for Upper New England particularly 
for the smaller areas  (which is just about all of upper New England).


Chris
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc,ne.jobs,biz.jobs.offered
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: New England Business Expanding Nationwide
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:32:12 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1993Jan27.043748.3294@gozer.mv.com> klm@gozer.mv.com (Kevin L. McBride) writes:
>BPHEINTZ@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (BRADLEY P HEINTZ) writes:
>
>> [blah blah blah]
>
>> What the work entails:
>> As I said, no experience is necessary.  This is not sales work.  B. P. Heintz
>> & Associates is a marketing company dealing with over 15,000 products, from
>> toothpaste to Ford, GM, and Chrysler automobiles.  We are seeking individuals
>> willing to apply our methods to expand our market share.  Time commitment is
>> flexible.  Profits down the road could have a committed person retired in 5
>> years.
>
>Gee, can you say AMWAY?
>
>Sheesh.

No, but I can say NO-WAY!!!
-- 
David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: markmc@halcyon.com (Mark McWiggins)
Subject: Re: Resume Paper Colour!
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:29:57 GMT

I had good luck with bright yellow. Of course, I *do* have a
much-sought-after skill set, but one recruiter specifically told me it
helped get her attention. And it copies/faxes just like white.
-- 
Mark McWiggins        Hermes & Associates		+1 206 632 1905 (voice)
markmc@halcyon.com    Box 31356, Seattle WA 98103-1356  +1 206 632 1738 (fax)
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: career search firms
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:14:23 GMT
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Distribution: ne
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: alhambra.pa.dec.com

|> Have you used a "career search" firm or "executive marketing" firm?
|> Which one?  How much did it cost?  Was it worth it?  Would you do it
|> again?

Unless you know of people who have been very satisfied with an
employee-paid search firm, I would recommend against using them.
They're likely to cost thousands of dollars and the better
employer-paid recruiters provide the same services at no cost
to the employee.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
From: blowfish@centauri.unm.edu (rON.)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Is three pages too long for a resume?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 05:23:58 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: pioneer.unm.edu

In article <93022.135529F0O@psuvm.psu.edu> <F0O@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>   My resume now is two pages, and I couldn't squeeze any more into those
>two pages.  I will start another job at the beginning of February and this
>will certainly push my resume into three pages.

3 pages is far far far to long.
Mine is on two pages, but would fit in a page and a half, and that is
pushing the limits. you'll just have to find a way to compress it.
I find it harder to belive that you have >all< that information that is
relevant for a job- have you ever tried making seperate resumes for 
different positions, instead of making one big generic one? Say one for,
if you're a programmer, towards troubleshooting, or one towards systems
programming, or whatever your specialties are...
r.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Subject: Resume Paper Colour!
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:08:40 GMT

I'm about to do that psycho-resume-mailout-from-hell thing...

Someone recently suggested that it might be a good idea to try out
different coloured paper instead of the standard white, blandola...

Any comments?

Thanks,

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc
From: stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Catherine Stanton)
Subject: Re: Resume Paper Colour!
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:42:12 GMT

In article <1k3giqINNbfm@calamari.hi.com> rogers@calamari.hi.com (Andrew Rogers) writes:
>In article <bhayden.728050784@teal> bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden) writes:
>>...For most other "real" jobs, you are much more likely to alienate the
>>person reading the resume.
>
>There's also a good practical reason to stick with white (or, if you really
>must be elegant, cream or ivory) stationery: it's much easier to photocopy,
>FAX, or scan.  Not to mention the fact that typically only the HR dept.
>will ever see the original anyway...
>
Well I have always hear: go for something at least slightly off white.  That
way your resume will stick out a bit from all of the other stark white papers.
Also, if you pick a good color it will be just as easy to photocopy.  I picked
a VERY pale slate blue color for mine.  Alone by itself it is even mistaken for
white, but once you set it against white paper it is definitely NOT white.  That
was the goal I was looking for.

what I hate though, are the cheesy parchment looking papers for resumes.  Ummm..
like we really have parchment just lying around any longer. ;)

Cat

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
    Cat Stanton
    stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.misc