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From: iwm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian W Moor)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Big TeX's -- how hard are they to come by?
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:02:56 GMT
Reply-To: iwm@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian W Moor)
Organization: Department Of Computing, Imperial College, London UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: swan.doc.ic.ac.uk


In article <PCG.92Sep12221620@aberdb.aber.ac.uk>, pcg@aber.ac.uk
(Piercarlo Grandi) writes:
|> On 11 Sep 92 07:46:44 GMT, rolfl@karl.uio.no (Rolf Lindgren) said:
|> Nntp-Posting-Host: karl.uio.no
|> 
|> For some bizarre reason he thought that new() would not be available
|> everywhere, so he avoided its use

In some early Pascal implementations there was no new() or dispose(), the
heap was treated like a second stack, with mark() which recorded the heap 
pointer in a user variable, and release(), which reset the heap pointer to
the given value. I would guess these were all that were needed to bootstrap
the Pascal compiler, but I doubt that they will suffice for TeX.

  Ian W. Moor
iwm@doc.ic.ac.uk   Department of Computing, Imperial College.            
                   180 Queensgate London SW7 UK.               
"Experts from BNFL have advised the Russians to rename Chernobyl as Sellograd
 and open a tourist centre"
From: asnd@msr.triumf.ca (Donald Arseneau)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: A question for a TeXnician about \shipout
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:55:00 GMT
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Stephen Edward Simmons, simmons@krang.vis.citri.edu.au wrote:
>Is there any way to convince \writes on the left hand pages to occur when the
>page is complete and stored in the temorary box rather than when both pages
>are shipped out?  

I suppose I should start by recommending that each column be shipped out 
as a page, if it is indeed a page, and let the DVI program handle it.

Or I should ask why a column is "left hand page" with its own page number.

But I will give some practical recommendations instead.

I expect the page numbers are being written to files for cross referencing
and compiling a table of contents.  There is no reason, then, why the explicit
page number need be written to the file.  The thing to write would be
\ifleftcol 13\else 14\fi, where \ifleftcol is set true or false by
writing \leftcoltrue at the top of the left column, and writing
\leftcolfalse at the top of the right column.  Thus, a TOC file
would look like

\leftcoltrue
\TOCentry{section}{1}{Introduction}{\ifleftcol 1\else 2\fi}
\leftcolfalse
\leftcoltrue
\leftcolfalse
\leftcoltrue
\TOCentry{section}{2}{Theory}{\ifleftcol 5\else 6\fi}
\leftcolfalse
\TOCentry{section}{3}{Procedure}{\ifleftcol 5\else 6\fi}
\leftcoltrue
\leftcolfalse

Cross referencing is done similarly, but the cross reference macro
has to be \edef-ed to evaluate the \if.

Donald
From: wagner@ike.ucdavis.edu (John Wagner)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: pictex.tex
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:34:18 GMT
Reply-To: wagner@ike.ucdavis.edu
Organization: University of California, Davis

My last post missed the first line.  I am looking for
pictex.tex, and would appreciate someone sending me email
telling me where I can pick it up.  Thanks,

---
John Wagner
Institute of Theoretical Dynamics
University of California, Davis

Bush/Quayle 1992: Saddam has a job, do you?

My opinions aren't even mine, much less those of anyone else...
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From: "Daniel H. Luecking" <DL24794@UAFSYSB.UARK.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: One more ``\outer'' message (and that's all [from me]).
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 10:02:06 CDT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

First of all I *do* know the trick of replacing \proclaim (or any other
\outer macro) with \csname proclaim\endcsname and I also know the trick
of using \edef\cs{...\noexpand\proclaim...}. Thus I do know how to get around
\outer'ness restriction on \outer macros in the replacement text of \def's.

The *reason* for outerness (as stated in the TeXbook) is to trap errors. Macro
writers are exhorted to use \outer for those macros which should only be
used at quiet times. So there I was, a TeX neophite, an end user (not a macro
writer except in a minor way) using plain TeX (LaTeX unavailable at the time,
though now I have come to prefer my TeX plain) and I attempt to simplify my
life by defining a few things like \def\theorem#1{\proclaim Theorem. #1\par}
and I get the most incomprehensible error message NOT EVEN MENTIONING the
term \outer. I was forced to check a (fortunately small) file for matching
braces, etc., rewrite the macro 5 different ways, and in general waste much
too much time, until (noticing later that \beginsection behaved similarly)
I looked up the text of plain.tex and discovered the problem.

THIS is error trapping! The ONLY error would not have been one had the format
writer not chosen to make \proclaim \outer.

So my point (in a previous posting) is that \outer may be a debugging tool
for macro writers, but it can be a headache for end users and it is my
humble opinion that Prof. Knuth erred several times in his choice of macros to
make \outer.

(I still believe that the phrase ``...since a user shouldn't be stating a
theorem in a macro definition...'' is absurd and misses the point of \def's.)

Dan Luecking
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: ccfj@hippo.ru.ac.za (F. Jacot Guillarmod)
Subject: four bibtex queries
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 05:10:42 GMT

I'm trying to produce booklists in a catalogue type format, and have a
few queries:

1 - how do you specify multiple retrieval keys for entries?  i.e. given
a file of numerous entries similar to this one:

@BOOK{roberts-1:mam,
title = "The Mammals of South Africa",
author = "Austin Roberts",
address = "Johannesburg",
publisher = "CNA",
year = 1951,
edition = "Subscribers",
note = "Good condition",
}

I'd like to be able to use the same bib file to store everything, but
be able to retrieve and display the entry in categories such as, say
"birds", "mammals", "africana" or "roberts".  At present I'm splitting
the entries into separate bib files manually, and then producing the
lists via a latex \nocite{*} type entry in separate runs.  So, how
would you set up keys for these various categories, and how would you
cite according to the various categories?

2 - in the example above, the display for the bibtex "plain" style would
look something like:

[1] Austin Roberts.....

Is there some method of getting it to display as:

[1] Roberts, Austin.....

instead?

3 - is there some latex/bibtex skeleton for producing a book catalogue
or price list?

4 - any sources of bibtex documentation other than the Latex book and
the "Bibtexing" document (Feb 8, 1988 version) by Oren Patashik?

Thanks in advance.
-- 
  F.F. Jacot Guillarmod     PO  Box 94     \        |     ccfj@hippo.ru.ac.za
  Computing Centre       Grahamstown 6140   \      /     +27 461 22023 xt 284
  Rhodes University        South Africa      ;___*/   33 18 30 S | 26 31 45 E
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From: hank@news.duc.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: Re: dvi->HP laser jet
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:40:24 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <stevew.716485129@helios>, stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu) writes:
>   I am looking for the src code for program convert dvi to HP laser jet 
> printer. Does anyone have any idea where I can get them (e.g dvijep)

The source for Gustaf Neumann's dvi2xx program is always with the executable.
This program compiles to an IBM-3812 driver or to a laserjet driver.  We used
it under MSDOS, but the source says it's ready for UNIX. 

I do not know the current state of this software. You can find dvi2xx50 on
simtel20.army.mil in pd1:<msdos.tex>.  Note also that there has been a
recent post on comp.text.tex from someone who is considering a greatly 
enhanced laserjet driver.  I do not recall the specifics, except that I sent
the author some requested info on \special's.

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: hsreil@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Hans Reil)
Subject: Footnotes
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:57:59 GMT

Hello tex users

I need help!

Is it possible to make 3 different categories of footnotes in one text. For exaple numbers, latin letters and greek letters.

If that's possible, how to do it?

Thanks a lot.
				Hans Reil

PS: God loves you!!!


email: hsreil@informatik.uni-erlangen.de

Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: TeX under SCO Xenix (386)
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 13:50:15 GMT

dhosek@linus.claremont.edu writes:

>Yes. In fact at least one commercial 386-based Unix includes TeX.
>Once you get around the segmented architecture crud, intel is not
>a bad platform (and cheap too).

I don't think the "segmented architecture" affects any Unix on 386's.
All the ones I've seen use 32-bit offsets.
I've been running TeX under Microport (RIP) Unix for several years,
and had no problems.
(At the time I found it easier to compile TeX on the 386
than on a Sun.)
Also under 386-Minix and Linux.

We could never afford SCO,
so were forced to use something that worked :-)

-- 
Timothy Murphy  
e-mail: tim@maths.tcd.ie
tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
From: FINAKG%DEPAUL.BITNET@SHSU.edu (Adam Gehr)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Czech Tex
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:21:00 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

I have a friend who would like to use a Czech version of
Latex. Is such a thing available for PC's with US keyboards?
I know that most of the diacritical marks (except for the
little o over the u) can be generated in standard Latex.
Is there anything fancier than this that she can use?
Something that might include Czech hyphenation patterns?

 Thanks for your help.
    Adam Gehr
    Professor of Finance
    DePaul University
    Chicago Il
    FINAKG@DEPAUL
    FINAKG@ORION.DEPAUL.EDU
From: schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Schrod)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Big TeX's -- how hard are they to come by?
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:23:22 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <18p7lpINNc73@almaak.usc.edu>, ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
> 
> I find it hard to appreciate why TeX should not know how to dynamically
> allocate RAM on demand.  Does this have something to do with being
> written in pascal?  I seem to recall that new() returns nil if
> you are out of memory..

Yes, it has something to do with being written in Pascal, namely the
demand for portability.

The Pascal Report (3rd ed., for ISO Pascal Standard, appendix A) does
not define the behaviour of new if one runs out of memory. So, for
the sake of portability, one must not rely on any specific behaviour.

Of course, this does not hinder anyone writing a change file which
uses the features of its special Pascal compiler. Actually, we did
this a few years ago for an Atari ST port. But this was a brute force
approach which cannot be used in VM environments.

--
Joachim

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Joachim Schrod			Email: schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
Computer Science Department
Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: lasmith@athena.mit.edu (Lones A Smith)
Subject: style docs and doc.sty {bf EXACTLY} where are you?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 20:05:07 GMT


Hi,
     I'm sure many novices must share these frustrations:
1. You have a style file which turns out not to include sufficient or any
   documentation in it (current example: enumerate.sty ===> how does this
   work anyway? My guess: \begin{enumerate}[I]  failed).
   Where do the archives hide the documentation?  (eg. where is
    enumerate.doc??? ---I don't see it inthe TEX INDEX)

2. You have style.doc that needs doc.sty.  Where is it? Supposedly
   at stuttgart.  But WHERE at stuttgart. The file system there resembles
   a messy desk, and all the obvious heaps don't contain it.

So, WHERE exactly is enumerate.doc (and how does it work, if .doc doesn't
    exist?) and where EXACTLY is doc.sty?   

Lones Smith MIT economics
From: "Erik Thaysen, Dev.Dept." <ERIKT@odin.uniras.dk>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Macros as arguments for \index.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:24 GMT
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Is it possible to use macros inside the argument of an \index command?

My problem:
I have a macro (\XP) which, depending on a flag, expands to one of two
possible texts, e.g., the call:

   \XP{IMAGE}

will produce either the text "FGL/IMAGE" or the text "agX/IMAGE". What
I would like is:

   \index{\XP{IMAGE}}

which should create an index entry under "F" or "A" depending on the
flag. As you might have guessed, it puts it under "X"!  Telling IdxTex
to ignore the \XP macro works fine, but then it puts it under "I"!!!
I've tried using \expandafter, but came up with nothing new.

So, is there any way of making the \index command above work?

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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: g88m0396@alpha.ru.ac.za (Jon-Dean Mountjoy)
Subject: Installing new THEOREM styles - error
Summary: Installing new THEOREM styles gives error
Keywords: theorem
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:39:12 GMT

Hi

I receive a couple of error messages when I install the new
THEOREM style from niord, the advert of which appeared here
a couple of days ago.

When I run "latex install.mz2" as instructed, I get a list of
errors, which follow.

Can anybody please help.

Thanks

J-D
--
{/home/g88m0396/theorem}> latex install.mz2
This is TeX, C Version 2.95 (no format preloaded)
(install.mz2
LaTeX Version 2.09 <4 Aug 1988>
(/usr/local/tex/inputs/docstrip.tex
No auxiliary output files.

LaTeX utility: `docstrip' v1.1l test <90/12/10> (FMi)
English documentation           <90/06/15> (FMi)

**********************************************************
* This program converts documented macro-files into fast *
* loadable files by stripping of (nearly) all comments!  *
**********************************************************

(/usr/local/tex/inputs/docstrip.tex
No auxiliary output files.

LaTeX utility: `docstrip' v1.1l test <90/12/10> (FMi)
English documentation           <90/06/15> (FMi)

**********************************************************
* This program converts documented macro-files into fast *
* loadable files by stripping of (nearly) all comments!  *
**********************************************************

(/usr/local/tex/inputs/docstrip.tex
No auxiliary output files.

LaTeX utility: `docstrip' v1.1l test <90/12/10> (FMi)
English documentation           <90/06/15> (FMi)

**********************************************************
* This program converts documented macro-files into fast *
* loadable files by stripping of (nearly) all comments!  *
**********************************************************

! No room for a new \read .
\ch@ck ...\else \errmessage {No room for a new #3}
                                                  \fi
\alloc@ ...\advance \count 1#1by\@ne \ch@ck #1#4#2
                                                  \allocationnumber =\count ...
l.105 \newread\@outfile

?

--
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     Jon-Dean Mountjoy        csjm@beta.ru.ac.za         Rhodes University
			The views herein are my own
		      and not those of the institution
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: llew@coal.WPI.EDU (Lok C. Lew Yan Voon)
Subject: latex align questions
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 21:11:47 GMT

A couple of latex (alignment) questions:

1. Can I get latex to skip some horizontal space (e.g. like
   using \hspace), and where the width is not specified numerically
   but by a string of characters for their actual widths.

2. Can I align the dashes in the foll:

\begin{itemize}
\item Group IV --- Si.
\item Group III-V --- GaAs.
\end{itemize}

3. How to align the decimal point in the foll:

\begin{tabular}
a & $-1.71$ \\
b &  $0.123$ \\

The REVTEX package for physics manuscript has a \dec macro defined
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: horst@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Horst Hogenkamp)
Subject: FAQ
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 08:31:35 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, Technische Fakultaet.


Did anyone ever consider to write a book which includes the
answers to the most FAQ about (La)TeX ?

It seems as if one could make a lot of money with such a book.

Horst
.
From: cet1@cus.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Problem with Maths mode and Captions
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:11:42 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

In article <1992Sep11.101904.1@matai.vuw.ac.nz>, andrew@matai.vuw.ac.nz
(Andrew Greer) writes:
|>     
|> The included latex input produces an error that there is an extra }
|> in the argument of caption. The problem is associated with having the
|> sqrt function in there - it goes away if I remove the sqrt{}. 
|>     
|> **************************************************************
|>     
|> \documentstyle[12pt,ncs]{article}  
|>     
|> \begin{document}
|> \[ \sqrt{xyz}\]
|>     
|> \begin{figure}
|> \vspace{5cm}
|> \caption{Leaky bucket solutions, $\sqrt{xyz} $  }  
|> \end{figure}
|>     
|> \end{document}

\sqrt is fragile (LaTeX book, C.6.2, page 170). Use

   \caption{Leaky bucket solutions, $\protect\sqrt{xyz} $  }

This is an easy one to forget, as so many of the math mode control
sequences are robust.

Chris Thompson
Cambridge University Computing Service
JANET:    cet1@uk.ac.cam.phx
Internet: cet1@phx.cam.ac.uk
From: revital@aero.org (Revital Elitzur)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Help with table of contents
Date: 12 Sep 1992 05:11:15 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org

The table of contents in the article style does not put a dotted
line between section names and their page numbers.  The dotted 
line only appears for subsections and lower levels.  Does anyone 
have any suggestions on how to get the dotted line to appear 
for sections?  Please e-mail and I will summarize.

				Thanks in advance,
						Revital Elitzur
						revital@aerospace.aero.org
From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: changing baselistretch?
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:33:35 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <9209142217.AA15421@speedy.cs.pitt.edu> abrantes@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Jorge Abrantes) writes:
>I would like to know how can I change the baselinestretch into a
>documment. For example to print document with 1.5 spacing and the
>bibligraphy with 1.0 spacing.

Try:  \renewcommand{\baselinestretch}{1.5}\small\normalsize

Crucially, after making the change, you have to switch to another size
and then back to normalsize in order for it to take effect.



-- 
+ Michael Covington - Artificial Intelligence Programs - U of Georgia - USA 
+ Unless otherwise noted, these are private opinions, not official statements.
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: deldeen@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Survey (Follow-up Posting)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:22:01 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Dear Reader,

IBM Pennant Systems is interested in how you use various text processing
tools.  We are interested in gathering documents with text and/or graphics
in the following formats:

- TeX and LaTeX .dvi files as well as source.
- nroff and (di)troff output as well as source.
- ASCII text files and the original source (e.g., WordPerfect).
- Postscript level 1 output and the original source.

Please note the following criteria:

- IBM Pennant Systems cannot accept any information or data that is
  confidential or sensitive to your company or any of your customers or
  partners.

- Any samples would be provided on a voluntary basis, without compensation
  from IBM.

Also, send information regarding the storage method used (e.g., cpio, tar,
zip or just straight copy).

Immediately following is a survey with questions relating to systems/printers,
document content, size, etc.  The data that is collected from the surveys will
greatly increase the effectiveness of our product's testing.

Please add any other comments you would like on the survey.  Thanks in advance
for any support you can give to us.

You may send all surveys and documents via e-mail to:

deldeen@vnet.ibm.com
or
You can reach me directly at (303)924-7080

Sincerely,

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Analysts International Corp.
(303)721-6200

----------------------------- Survey Questions ------------------------------

Print jobs

1.  What is the average size of your print jobs (in pages)?

2.  How many print jobs do you submit in an average week?

3.  What is the range of number of pages in your print job?
    From    to    pages.

4.  What is the average number of fonts used per print job?
    From    to    fonts.

5.  What is the range of the number of fonts used per print job?
    From    to    fonts.

6.  What is the composition of the average print job (text, graphics, tables)?

7.  What are the 2 most common formats that you print(ASCII, Postscript,
    nroff/troff, TeX/LaTeX)?

    1.
    2.

8.  What print options do you use the most for each of the formats (ASCII,
    PostScript, etc.)?

9.  What filters, if any, are you passing the output through?

10. How much do you use text (erase the two that do not apply)?
    Always  Sometimes  Never

11. How much do you use graphics (erase the two that do not apply)?
    Always  Sometimes  Never

12. How much do you use tables (erase the two that do not apply)?
    Always  Sometimes  Never

13. How much do you use special symbols (erase the two that do not apply)?
    Always  Sometimes  Never

14. What kind of header and trailer pages do you use (text, graphics, both)?

15. What are your usual default margins?

System Configuration

1. What kind of computer do you use?

2. What operating system do you use?

3. What printers do you use (Brand/Model/Type)?

Background Information

Name :
Address :
Job Title :


Thanks again for your help!!!
From: beran@wizzle.Berkeley.EDU (ibidem)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: PostScript to PCL interpreter
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:31:58 GMT
Distribution: comp.text.tex
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley

I venture to pose this problem after not finding an answer in FAQ and
the Supplement thereto: Having turned a TeX file that includes PostScript
fonts and graphics into PostScript, how does one print out on an HP LaserJet
III that does not have a PS cartridge?

Two possibilities seem to be: (a) Purchase a commercial PS interpreter
such as Ultrascript or Freedom of Press (I'm using an MSDOS 80486);
(b) Purchase commercial fonts for the Ghostscript interpreter, if they
are available in a compatible form.

Comments from anyone who has tried these routes would be much appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex