HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bell@cs.tamu.edu (Will Bell)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: Obstatements
Date: 10 Jan 1993 18:11:29 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: solar.tamu.edu

In article <9JAN199321492913@utkvx3.utk.edu> canevit@utkvx3.utk.edu (Canevit, Craig Eugene) writes:
>	I have been reading news for over six months, and the one main
>thing I have not been able to figure out is the meaning of "ob" as used
>by several Usenetters: 'ob-conclusion,' 'ob-urban legend,' 'ob-prediction,'
>and so forth.... Could anybody illuminate me here?

Someone already said it means "obligatory", but didn't say WHY it is used.
Many times someone will post something which is completely irrelevant to
the group it is posted in (but usually is of interest in the context of a
followup, or an inside joke, or something witty like that).  Then, in an
effort to make some part of their post relevant, they will put a little
blurb at the end of their post, like this one:

ObJoke:  Why did the elephant cross the road?  To get to the other side...  

Which would make this post "valid" in rec.humor because it contains a joke.
Get it?  :)

WBB
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From: hakari@lars.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (The Conformist Contrabass Clarinetist)
Subject: How do I....
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:37:45 GMT



How do I send/receive email from BITNET?  I am on the Internet/Usenet, and I 
wish to subscribe to a certain mailing list, but the address is a Bitnet one - 
klarinet@vccscent.bitnet - to be exact.  This is the address I got out of 
Clarinet magazine.  Help is appreciated.

--Andrea



Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: RN Help!!!!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:18:10 GMT

I can't for the life of me get RN to accept a file as the RNINIT
environment variable and use it.

I am using BASH, so I type RNINIT=~/.rninit.  The ~ expands to be
/u2/paprescod/.rninit.  So I type rn, but it ignores all of the
settings in that file.  How are the settings in that file supposed to
be formatted?  I have them as one long string. Is this wrong?

Email or post appreciated!

Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: cwerner@nyx.cs.du.edu (Craig Werner)
Subject: Essential Lines in Header when Starting Thread
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 13:38:48 GMT


Hello, everyone.
 
I'd like to know which header lines in posts are absolutely
necessary.  When I post, I do so to single newsgroups, filling in
only the "Subject" and "Distribution" fields.  However, I read
recently that if the "Follow-up" line is left blank, some users
will have trouble in replying to the article.  Is this true? 
Which header lines should be filled in when one is starting a
thread?
 
Thanks for any and all help.
 
Craig Werner <cwerner@nyx.cs.du.edu>
From: "ron kulick" <ron.kulick@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: how do i....
Date: 9 Jan 93 04:49:32 EST
Reply-To: "ron kulick" <ron.kulick@execnet.com>
Distribution: news
Organization: Executive Networks Information

             In article <1993Jan5.161757.5822#rtsg.mot.com>
   king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist) writes...

SK>From the Network Mail guide...

SK> Key:
  >     #F From this network
  >     #T To this one
  >     #R Recipient's address (on his network)
  >     #I Instructions

Is this "Network Mail Guide" available from a mail server? If so, do you
know the filename to request? Thanks.

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From: sb@next.neuro.emory.edu (Stephen O. Berger)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: How can my business get internet acces in GA ?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 18:36:36 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS
Reply-To: sb@next.neuro.emory.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: next.neuro.emory.edu



Hi,

  Can someone please comment on the different ways to gain access to the  
internet in the Atlanta GA area ?  We are establishing a new business
and would like to have internet e-mail and/or ftp access if possible.


Steve Berger (sb@onripx.neuro.emory.edu)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: carpente@lds.loral.com (Mike Carpenter 6825)
Subject: test
Organization: Loral Data Systems
Distribution: fl
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:48:24 GMT

testing..1..2..3..4
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: darla@shell.portal.com (Kuby Downs)
Subject: Re: How to use "whois" command
Organization: Portal Communications Company
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 13:40:08 GMT

Greg Knopf (knopf@nisc.jvnc.net) wrote:

=>"whois" is used to find information about a network.  It queries a
=>machine NIC.DDN.MIL which maintains a database of registered domains.
=>Some examples of whois and also "finger":

Greg,
Thanks for sharing this script. How would I install it on a Cshell
that I dial in from a modem?
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From: fxars@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Allen R Sparks)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: deleting messages
Date: 10 Jan 93 12:18:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: rama.FXARS.93Jan10031803
	<C0MEME.4M6@unix.portal.com>
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <C0MEME.4M6@unix.portal.com> claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese) writes:

  In article <1993Jan9.205432.13883@wam.umd.edu> ericadib@wam.umd.edu (Erica M. Dibietz) writes:
  >I also would like to know how to delete articles. I know how to
  >get to the headers...my question is:
  >How do I delete < Looking for articles to Kill. and then a whole
  >yellow stream of them continue to flash on my screen.


  The first thing that needs to be found out. What mail reader do you and the
  other user use?

One of them uses an rn type reader because he mentioned the "=" sign
to view the groups.  I recommend you look into "k" for kill.
=== Al
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: cwerner@nyx.cs.du.edu (Craig Werner)
Subject: Re: deleting messages
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 13:02:44 GMT


To those of you using rn who have been asking about deleting messages:

type =, and write down all the article numbers you'd like to read.

Read each article by calling it up by number.

Type c (note lower-case letter) after you have read all the articles of   
interest.  The 'c' will mark all unread articles as read; thus, they 
will not be shown to you during your next pass of the newsgroup.

Craig Werner <cwerner@nyx.cs.du.edu>
From: dle@buoy.cis.ufl.edu (Donald Ellingsworth)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: mail to PC pursuit. Is it possible?
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:47:00 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.


-- 

The subject says it all, is it possible to mail to someone on PC pusuit?


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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: email limits
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:40:18 GMT

 (Robert S. Maier) writes:
>>>>>> "Jim" == Jim Pierce <jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu> writes:
>>>Hello, I was just curious what is the limit of the size of email
>>>one can send?
>	Jim>   I have been told by several people that anything larger
>	Jim> than 64 Kb will be eaten by several older sites on the
>	Jim> Internet. Thats why the binaries newsgroups for the computer
>	Jim> groups all post in parts.
>
>Jim is confusing two issues here: the maximum size of email, and the
>maximum size of a Usenet news article.  They are not the same thing.

   Hmm. I see your point, but I left out detail. But below.

>If a user is sending mail from a node directly connected to the Internet,
>to another node directly connected to the Internet, and they run halfway
>decent versions of Unix, and no one has configured the sendmail.cf file (or
>equivalent) to use an intermediate `mail host', then the odds are that
>messages up to several megabytes in length could be delivered successfully.
>
>There are of course a lot of `ifs' in that statement.  But the situation is
>much better than with news articles.  If you post multi-megabyte news
>articles, not only will they fail to make it to a substantial fraction of
>Usenet, you will get a lot of newsadmins and sysadmins sore at you.

  Actually I should have been more detailed. Back when all I had was a
 rather flaky Bitnet account, I used bitftp at pucc to get files from
 Internet sites. If it was over about 150 Kb it would probably never
 arrive at my Bitnet account. Also, when I used another, now defunct
 site, they would always break files into 64 KB parts and the help
 message I receive form that site explained that that size was chosen
 because some gateways would eat larger files.

    Robert, I had not heard your info before, Jim.
 { And no, I didn't expect you to edit my name... }

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: dchen@nstdc.nthu.edu.tw (Daniel Chen)
Subject: health physic newsgroup.. where?
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:36:26 GMT


Is there a newsgroup/listserv associated with health physic
or radiation measurement?

any information will be great appreciated.


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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber)
Subject: I need UUDECODE for a PC and don't have FTP
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:13:46 GMT
Summary: See Subject
Keywords: UUDECODE

I need a uudecode program for my PC.  I don't have FTP available to
me at my site.  I *do* have a Microsoft C5.1 compiler available in
the event that only source code is available.

Is there (possibly) a newsgroup where commom utilities like this, and
things like GIF viewers are permanently posted for those of us without
fulltime internet connections.

If there are no follow-ups to this, please respond via e-mail.  If
follow-ups indicate a wider interest in this question, please post to
the net so that I don't get too many letters asking for me to pass on
anything I learned here.

Thanks!

P.S.  I *can* UUDECODE any mail sent to this address, but need a PC
program for a different circumstance.


Without change,                         *David Barber*
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From: rsm@math.arizona.edu (Robert S. Maier)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: email limits
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:45:43 GMT
	<1993Jan4.225449.9270@ra.msstate.edu>
Organization: Mathematics Department, University of Arizona
In-reply-to: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu's message of 4 Jan 93 22:54:49 GMT

>>>>> "Jimmy" == Jimmy Malcolm Pierce <jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu> writes:

>>Hello, I was just curious what is the limit of the size of email
>>one can send?

	Jimmy>   I have been told by several people that anything larger
	Jimmy> than 64 Kb will be eaten by several older sites on the
	Jimmy> Internet. Thats why the binaries newsgroups for the computer
	Jimmy> groups all post in parts.

Jimmy is confusing two issues here: the maximum size of email, and the
maximum size of a Usenet news article.  They are not the same thing.

If a user is sending mail from a node directly connected to the Internet,
to another node directly connected to the Internet, and they run halfway
decent versions of Unix, and no one has configured the sendmail.cf file (or
equivalent) to use an intermediate `mail host', then the odds are that
messages up to several megabytes in length could be delivered successfully.

There are of course a lot of `ifs' in that statement.  But the situation is
much better than with news articles.  If you post multi-megabyte news
articles, not only will they fail to make it to a substantial fraction of
Usenet, you will get a lot of newsadmins and sysadmins sore at you.

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: help rn: how to skip lines in a header?
Organization: ASU, Valley of the Sun(s), AZ
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:46:38 GMT

stong@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Shidong Tong) writes:

)Is there any way to read just a few lines such as Subject: and From:, 
)and skip all the other lines in the header?

It is time to RTFM. Specifically look for the -h and +h options. Also
look back at the previous postings on this very group about how to
setup an init file for rn.

)ps. I am using rn on a Sun workstation

Please be sure to specify the version no. too in future (use 'v' from
the Group selection prompt).

Sridhar.
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From: nicolas@stam.nl (Nico Veenkamp)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Re: agriculture
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 13:29:41 +0100
Organization: Stam Tijdschriften bv, Rijswijk, The Netherlands

In <C0Ezv9.LHo@news.cso.uiuc.edu> trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
>is there a newsgroup devoted to agricultural information...

>for instance:  how does one deal with broad mites?
>or info on hydroponic gardening....

There are several bionet subgroups like bionet.agroforestry or
bionet.plants that might be relevant.


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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: ericadib@wam.umd.edu (Erica M. Dibietz)
Subject: Re: deleting messages
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:54:32 GMT

Hany thanks for the help.



hello there,
I also would like to know how to delete articles. I know how to
get to the headers...my question is:
How do I delete < Looking for articles to Kill. and then a whole
yellow stream of them continue to flash on my screen.

Mnay thanks for the help
talk ac999139@umbc.edu
talk ac999139@umbc2.umbc.edu
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions,news.admin.misc
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Mail Slowdown
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:51:18 GMT

 (Rob Quinn) writes:
>> (Greg Tapolow) writes:
>>My site has noticed a sever drop in incoming news. It seems to be the
>>belief at our site that the cause is from outside the site.
>
> Well, it _is_ the Christmas break in most places (schools).

   Yes, most have gone way down due to the Christmas Break; however,
  at least two of the groups I read increased in posts: alt.callahans
  and alt.folklore.computers.

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From: daviess@gov.on.ca (Stephen Davies)
Subject: Re: Access to Dialog
Organization: Government of Ontario
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:17:59 GMT

In <1993Jan11.190902.1512@tolten.puc.cl> ffuentes@tolten.puc.cl (Fernando Fuentes SCC) writes:

>I am very interest in the possibility to access Dialog through the
>Internet. I will appreciate if somebody knows a how can I get there.


>Fernando Fuentes

It is possible to get into Dialog from internet.  The procedure is as
follows:

telnet dialog.com

Note that you must have a dialog usernumber and password (dialog is a
fee based system).  However, I believe that accessing dialog through
internet is one of the cheapest methods of accessing dialog (no long
distance telephone or Datapac charges, also low online fee for dialog).

Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese)
Subject: Re: deleting messages
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:18:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.205432.13883@wam.umd.edu> ericadib@wam.umd.edu (Erica M. Dibietz) writes:
>I also would like to know how to delete articles. I know how to
>get to the headers...my question is:
>How do I delete < Looking for articles to Kill. and then a whole
>yellow stream of them continue to flash on my screen.


The first thing that needs to be found out. What mail reader do you and the
other user use?
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From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: GEnie's Phone Number
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:14:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


This probably doesn't belong here but can someone send me GEnie's
toll free telephone number.  I tried directory assistance, but 
they don't have it.  Then I got General Electric's number from 
Directory Assistance, but the number has been busy for 4 days.

So, if you have the number, please send it to me asap.

If you own a modem, you probably got a GEnie advertisement with your
modem instructions - the number would be there.

I need to call them because I cancelled my subscription and they 
haven't stopped billing me, but I threw all my GEnie literature away.

Thanks,
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Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: dx3@ornl.gov (C. H. Decker)
Subject: Any AMHS newsgroups?
Organization: Martin Marietta Energy Systems
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:39:02 GMT

Does anyone know of any newsgroups for Automated Message Handling Systems (
AMHS's) ?  If so, what's the name and where are they?  If not, how do you 
poll user interest for new newsgroups?

Thanks in advance!  Carla

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Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
From: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: Using nslookup/dig for mx searches
Organization: ASU, Valley of the Sun(s), AZ
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:21:18 GMT

ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
)CH> == Charlie Hofacker <CHOFACK@avm.cc.fsu.edu>
)
) CH>  As an example, suppose one.bank.com is a valid address but
) CH> two.bank.com is not.  No matter what I do (including the mx keyword of
) CH> dig) I cannot get either dig or nslookup to give me an answer that
) CH> looks different for the valid address as compared to the invalid
) CH> address.  What tools can be used to discriminate between valid and
) CH> invalid addresses? What steps does one follow?
)
)loiosh.eff.org.	78045	MX	100 eff.org.

I think the original poster had a situation where there were no A records
but only an MX record of the type,

*.b.c.	MX	100 b.c.

in which case I seem to think that the only way to test the absence of
a host1.b.c is a bounce from b.c. Right?

Sridhar.
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From: Dave.Karpinski@p4316.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Karpinski)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: FTP: max file size?
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:00:00 -0500

Daniel -

You mentioned, back in December, having problems
FTPing large files over the internet:
 > Is there an upper limit on the size of a file I
 > can "get" using FTP? My "get" bombed out twice
 > with something like "broken pipe - file too large."
 > The file was approx. 1.5M and the xfer
 > bombed at around 1M. It's a binary .exe file that I

Since I have seen no other reply this might be helpful.
I have been getting quite a few large files down to our
Vax computer and get that kind of message whenever I
exceed my file allocation space on the Vax.  I have
found my local operations staff willing to temporarily
increase my allocation (usually they have it set at 1 Meg)
so that I can bring in the larger files and download them
to my PC.  I'm currently downloading them from the Vax
using Kermit but I'm trying to get them to compile a Vax
version of Zmodem which I got for them and promises to be
much faster from the Vax to the PC.  Hope this helps!

BTW, I'm a civilian (retired AF) working at Walter Reed
and connecting to the internet via a Fidonet node.  I
also read mail sent to karpo@wrair-emh1.army.mil.
From: todd.paulus%theweb@meaddata.com (Todd Paulus) 
Newsgroups: news.newusers.questions
Subject: Internet Access?
Date: 6 Jan 93 08:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Web BBS 1-513-436-9011 6 Lines 1200 News groups 50,000 files!
Reply-To: todd.paulus%theweb@meaddata.com (Todd Paulus) 

TO: rtoptan@lucpum.it.luc.edu

   .Subject: Internet Access?
   .Message-ID: <1992Dec18.145405.155@lucpum.it.luc.edu>
   .Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:54:05 GMT

RZT.I'm not sure if this is the best place to post this, but I am asking
   .this for a friend of mine who does not have Internet access from his
   .schools' computers.

RZT.He is looking for a way to get Internet access. I think his main
   .objective is to be able to send & receive email, although I'm sure
   .he wouldn't mind access to other services as well.

Richard,

I think your friend's best bet is to locate a local BBS that carries a
node - that's how most of us get into the game.  If not a local BBS,
perhaps a nearby one in a larger city.  You would then need to use an
offline mailreader, and not use the INTERNET online - so to speak, as
you might at the major schools that have INTERNET access.  Actually, you
are only online to the mainframe, and the mainframe software sends out
the packets, so it is really the same thing.  But, I ramble....  I am
assuming you know all about offline mail readers, etc.  Good luck.  Post
a message asking for node locations by city and name the city(s) you are
in.

Regards,
Todd

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