From: s9874194@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9874194)
Subject: Re: Sources on Tibet
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Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:26:00 GMT

In article <65500068@acf3.NYU.EDU>, yangze@acf3.NYU.EDU (Ze Yang, , , ) writes...
>mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha) writes:
> 
>>	I especially welcome contributions from the following netters:
> 
>>	Yang Ze
>>	Shi Chunde
>>	Brian Lin
> 
>>	Thanks a lot. I'll be glad to forward a copy of the list to anyone
>>who asks for it.
> 
>>Mark Libucha (mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
> 
>Hello, Mr. Libucha, I am so glad that you put my name at 
>the first place (I guess that's because my stringent arguments win
>your trust:-). Why don't you also want contribution from Mr. Carl?
>The guy posted more articles than me. Is that because You can 
>tell his arguments are generally illogic?:-), but 
>I am a little busy now, I cann't give you much help on this 
>matter. Why don't we play something easier for you, your e-mail 
>address remainds me of one speech made by Abraham Lincoln
>(Abraham Lincoln is Ex president of USA--in case you don't know this :-)), 
>if you can give me satisfactary answers about some qustions about 
>this speech, I might give you some advise on your project. 
>First, there are two versions of the speech (appr.):
> "...At what point then shall we expect approch of danger? Shall
>we expect some transatlantic millitary giant to step the
>ocean and crush us at a blow? Never, all the armies of Europe,
>Asia and Africa combined, with all the treasure of the Earth in their
>military chest
>and a Bonarpart as a commander, could not by force take a drink
>from the OHIO river or set a track on the Blue Ridge , in a
>trial of a thouscand years. If destruction ever reach us, it must spring
>up amongst us, we must be its author and finisher, as a 
>country of free men, we must live through all time or die by suicide..."
>another version:
> "..Whence shall we expect approch of danger? Shall we assume
>some millitary giant to step the ocean and crush us at a blow?
>Never, all the armies of Europe, Asia and Africa, could
>not by force take a drink from the OHIO river, or set a track
>on the Blue Ridge in a trial of a thousand years, if destruction be
>our lot, we must ourselves be its author and finisher, as a nation
>of free men, we must live for ever, or die by suicide..."
> 
>(Please ignore misspelling, that is intentionally left for Mr. Carl, 
>I am sure every time he find a misspelling or grammar error, he
>is excited.:-) )
> 
>My questions:
>1) Which is the original version (by Abraham Lincoln).
>2) At what year Abraham Lincoln made the speech?
>(Please don't post your answers before you have more that two
>answers.)
>If you cannot give me a satisfactory answer, I would say "
>This guy is BULLSHIT, even don't know American History,
>why bother to teach him our Chinese stuff."
>By the way, you are not related to CIT at all, are you?
>I am really concerned about this. (My taiwanese friends' 
>club once visited by CIA personel, CIA offered help to them, 
>I really cannot afford this).
>Ze Yang.
Hello, Mr. Yang. I could not figure out how many times you have
post this article and what was the purpose of posting it several 
times. People who are not interested in reading it will not read it any
way.
c.q. , another Yang
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