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From: mas@calmasd.Prime.COM (Marisa SorBello)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Spooky things
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:32:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <1992Nov6.153137.19031@sura.net> nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.163605.25774@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling) writes:
>with no leash, harness or anything.  Just following them at the same pace
>anda little to the rear.  I was so astonished at this uncatlike behavior 
>that I couldn't help but stare.  I asked the man if the cat belonged to 
>them (my face, I am sure, showing complete perplexity).  He laughed and 
>said, "Oh, yes.  He always goes on walks with us." 
> 
This seems perfectly normal to me.  When I was 12 our family
acquired a beautiful German Shepard, Nikki.  Midnight taught
Nikki the proper respect that a large (112 lbs) dog should have
for a cat.  Our house was on a hill and we had acres and acres
of open land around us in all directions.  It wasn't uncommon
to see the dog wandering around with the cat alongside.  When
Midnight died (at age 16 -- not bad for a cat living outdoors 
in the desert) and we got a new cat, Otis quickly learned that 
he was in charge.  As Nikki aged and the house was sold, my mother 
had to start taking Nikki on evening constitutionals.  Otis was 
always about 2-3 feet behind, no matter where they walked.  Mom's 
neighbors eventually got used to it, but they sure thought it was 
weird at first!

Nikki and Otis were quite the playmates.  They used to run around
the house chasing each other, always the same circular route through
the living and family rooms.  Otis cheated, though, and slipped
between the couch and the coffee table.  Nikki, of course, didn't
fit and had to take a slightly longer route.  It didn't take long
for Otis to be chasing Nikki.  How I wish we'd had a video camera
then!

Nikki and Otis are gone now, too, and my mother lives in a condo
complex for retired folks.  She uses the pool most days, and her
current feline companion (Binky -- what a name!) always walks along 
the fence surrounding the pool observing Mom's exercise.  He always 
waits for her to walk home.

-- Marisa


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From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: UPDATE: Is this what I think it is...
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:15:34 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: glenns@tronsbox.xei.com (Glenn S.)
Subject: Re: WHAT TO NAME A WHITE MALE KITTEN
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:28:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.160717.264@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> reheerdi@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rob Heerdink) writes:
j
>My cat is named Dirk, after a bum I once knew...

Gee... I dunno... I kinda like Theodore, m'self.  A friend of mine's cat is 
named Theodore.  Cutest cat (other that my friend's cats... I have yet to get
one of my own....) I've seen.  
 
Then again, some people insist that cats shouldn't have "people" names, so
who am I to say.. heh... Personally, I feel it adds a touch of class to an 
already classy animal.
 

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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: My roommate broke my kitten's leg!!!!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:08:17 GMT

Matthew Harrington (ph600fcy@sdcc14.ucsd.edu) wrote:

: My 10 week old kitten named Simon climbed up onto the dinner table
: the other day and jumped into my roommate's plate of spaghetti.  The
: roommate angrily threw the kitten down.  It wasn't a toss, it really
: had some force in it.  My girlfriend, who watched the whole thing,
: then went to clean the kitten off and noticed that his rear leg was
: hanging limp.  The kitten began crying.
: 
: I took the kitten into the animal emergency room to have some X-rays
: done, and it turns out that the leg is broken.  It will be OK, but
: just painful for a while.
: 
: The problem is dealing with the roommate.  She is from Ecuador, and
: from what I've heard, Latins aren't generally kind to animals.  She
: has told us stories of family members smuggling rare Amazon monkeys
: into New York by tranquilizing the animal and putting it in a
: suitcase.  This incident with the kitten isn't the woman's first
: case of being abusive. 
: 
: It looks like a confrontation between me (or my girlfriend) and the
: roommate is inevitable.  I hope that no one has had to deal with
: this situation before, but it so I'd like some advice and comments.

Simon didn't know any better.  Your roomie from Ecuador obviously has some
learning to do before she is safe around animals.  I'd tell her that the next
time she hurt an animal, I'd hurt her the same way she hurt the animal.
Break Simon's leg, break hers.  Grrr.... :( :( :(

I'd also make *her* pay for the emergency room visit, and *all* followups.

Goddamnit, I really see red when people start treating animals like a stick
of furniture.  Hurting an animal is like hurting a child, but you don't see
any newsgroups like alt.animal.abuse.recovery.  Like animals are second-class
citizens or something.

I'd better stop now, before I get on my soapbox.  Not a word to Snowcat and
friends...

GRRRRRR.......
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
From: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Organization: gators 'r us
Subject: Re: Welcome to the First Cat (Socks)
Reply-To: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 14:14:00 -0400

>> 
>>A 21 can salute to the soon-to-be-resident cat in the White House,
>>Socks!  When (if ever) was the last time there was a cat in the
>>White House?
lincoln had cats, and i think the carters and/or the fords had a siamese.
-- 
-- little gator aka s. mudgett     email: scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
From: bt630@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Michaels)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Ok to feed tuna daily ??
Date: 7 Nov 1992 22:56:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Hi.

I have a ~3 year old (indoor-outdoor/castrated) male cat who loves
tuna.  I feed him mostly dry food (DAD'S Special Mix).  I also
treat him, almost daily, to approximately 1-2 ounces of tuna canned
in spring water.  Is this a bad idea??  In the long-term -- will
this diet harm him or shorten his life expectancy?


This is my second cat.  My first lived 13 years (passed away from a
inoperable tumor in her liver).


Thanks,
Rich Michaels

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From: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats that fetch
Date: 7 Nov 1992 09:27:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. Nelson)
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In a previous article, hcrain@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Helen C Crain) says:
>Fetching is one thing.  Joshua will fetch those
>practice golf balls and Eli goes after *any*
>crumpled paper.  <Is it fetching, technically, if
>they don't quite bring it all the way back?>
>
Spanky has a collection of those colored spongy balls, and
will bring them to me anytime he feels I have nothing better
to do than toss them down the hall for him. (Like right
now, for instance). He brings them allll the way back, dropping
them in my hand, or as now climbing up the back of the chair
to drop them into my lap. After a while he will flop down
and pant a little, and then start all over. He does not mind
if others are here to watch, and we even have some photos of
him with a ball sticking out of the corner of his mouth.

I have had a couple of other cats that fetched, but none
with this level of consistency!

--
Nicole, the one who throws the toys :-)
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From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: why no food after neuter?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:29:14 GMT

N. Nelson (at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:

:    Spanky went in for The Operation this morning, and this
: evening he seems just fine, but a little indignant that there
: is no food offered. They told me not to feed him until tomorrow
: morning, and I won't, but a plaintive baby curled up in your
: lap nonstop is a little hard to take :-)
: 
:     Anyone know the logic behind this request? He's not showing
: any effects of the anesthetic at all, and I keep having to remind
: him he had surgery this morning, and jumping around is not a 
: good idea. All he knows is, he's HUNGRY!

Anestetic can make cats sick to their stomachs.  You don't notice it until
the food hits, then what they eat, comes right back up! :(
--
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
seeker, therefore, is concerned with one thing only: to become aware of what
he already is, of the True Self within."  -- Zen maxim
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
From: U53064@uicvm.uic.edu (Shawn Durham)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats that fetch
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:45:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92310.164505U53064
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

I've know several fetchers.  Genghis would fetch those little spongy
balls, and Kelly will fetch ANYTHING he can carry -- balls, fur mousies,
an old silk flower was his favorite toy for a while.  Arvid would
only fetch wooden clothes pins with the spring, and only if they
were thrown across an uncarpeted floor.

Neither of my own cats, Tucker or Merlin, has any interest in fetching 8<
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From: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cats that JUMP (was fetch)
Date: 13 Nov 1992 06:30:18 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jpinette@BBN.COM (Jeanne M Pinette) says:
(stuff deleted)
>One thing that is very interesting is when we have them play with a
>flashlight beam, Cashmir makes the craziest noise.  The only way I can
>describe it is it sounds like she is meowing backwards.  It sounds
>like an inhale or gasp, but resembles a meow.  Friends that have
>watched her do this have actually had tears streaming down their face
>because she sounds so funny.  Its like she's "calling" to the beam
>because she does it most when the beam is at a distance up the wall.
>She, also, is a kook.
>
This brings back some fond memories :-) A short, fat, gray
tabby I used to have named Jane would chirp and chase light
spots on the wall for _hours_ if she could! This was discovered
accidentally one afternoon when my watch reflected a spot onto
the wall and she went mad! Every afternoon after that, at whatever
exact time the sun was right, she would be sitting by the
wall searching out that light spot. The tough part was her sad
little face on cloudy days!

Nicole
 and Spanky, who is standing on my arm. I wonder how many rpc
people post with a cat sitting on them :-)
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From: berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume)
Subject: My shoes have fallen victim!
Summary: chew chew chew *GULP*
Keywords: shoelaces
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:50:19 GMT

Help!!! Kinski has developed a nasty habit of chewing off the ends
of some of my shoelaces!  I now can't wear one pair of shoes 
because she chewed the leather laces all the way down to the eye/hole
of the shoe.  She's also chewed the tips off the laces on my boots!
AGH!!!!  Can I kill her now? 8)  AND....  My SO bought a new coat
that had drawstrings on the removeable hood, and guess what Kinski
DID!  You got it!  SO got mildy pissed at that.  Now we have to make 
any possible shoelace victims are put away else they fall prey to 
Kinski.

Does anyone have any suggestions in preventing her from doing this
anymore?

Thanks!

- Eva

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From: jocha@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Marianne S. Jocha)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: other monsters....
Date: 5 Nov 1992 12:18:56 -0500
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
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In article <1992Nov5.161002.3561@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling) writes:
>> At this season of the year (at least in the northern half of the western
>> hemishpere) there is an infestation of Dead Leaf Monsters.These sneaky
>> creatures have a nasty habit of wetting themselves down in the rain with
>> |  All the usual disclaimers about the origins of these opinions apply.  |
>
>I thought my Boo was going to get whiplash watching the leaves blowing
>around outside.

And on the same note, I mistakenly carried a Deaf Leaf Monster in on
my shoe night before last.  I haven't seen Sheba have as much fun
with anything in a long time as with that one dead oak leaf!  (she's 
not normally interested in much toy-wise unless it's interactive, 
in which case she'll lower her standards and play with me until 
I bore her after a couple of minutes)  And the amazing part was 
that she batted and carried it around all evening, but it never broke 
into pieces - she must have been *very* gentle with it!  Another chapter 
for the "who really knows what entertains them?" book...
                      --marianne--
From: sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: WHAT TO NAME A WHITE MALE KITTEN
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:17:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.5696
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <BxGHtB.66J@cmptrc.lonestar.org> brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:

>Wasn't it the movie "Logan's Run" that said cats had three names? An everyday
>name, a fancy name, and the name that they call each other, but they never
>tell anyone that one. (or something to that effect).

>-- 
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>|            Brad Barton -- brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org          |
>|  "No matter how hard you throw a dead fish into the water,  |
>|   it still won't swim."    -- Marian Stevens                |
>---------------------------------------------------------------

I think that the idea of the three names of cats originated with T.S.
Eliot's "on the naming of cats" (on which the musical _Cats_ is based)--
but correct me if I'm wrong. =)

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From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: What to name a male BLACK kitten...
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:10:37 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK


  OK ... how about Gothic, or Darth (as in Vader).
  That reminds me ... I was living in a house about 2 years ago
which had a neighbouring cat - a big old gent of a ginger tom called
Sam.  Before we knew his name, we'd christened him Darth because of
his breathing problem - he had very wheezy breath, due to his
very advanced age!  He seemed happy though, and always came up
for a chat, or wound around our legs in the garden making his version
of a purring noise (a sort of bubbly noise!).

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From: judy@evolving.com (Judy Bettinger)
Subject: Re: SHRINKING CAT FOOD CANS!
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:48:50 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.

LINDA E. MUCKEY writes:

>When I went to feed "the girls" last week, I noticed the cans all had "better
>flavor" plastered all over the labels.  Funny, though - something else was
>different...  Then it came to me!  Found a can from before = 6 oz.  New can is
>now 5.5!

Doesn't this just make you furious?  Do manufacturers think we're so
stupid we don't notice this kind of stuff?  What they've done is, in 
effect, raise the price by about 10%.  I've gotten so fed up that I'm
starting to write outraged letters to these crooks, telling them that
I'm not going to buy their product.

Other stuff that's been shrinking: "pounds" of bacon (actually 12 oz.), 
tuna cans, cereal, detergent. I wonder what the inflation rate would be if it
were recalculated using price per pound.
-- 
Judy Bettinger (judy@evolving.com)       < |/      Friends don't let friends
Evolving Systems, Inc.                    :o<)     do MS-DOS.
Denver, Colorado                         < |\
From: brookc1@mail.auburn.edu (Cassandra Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Take both cats to vet when one has to go?
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:29:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov6.002951.4275
Reply-To: brookc1@mail.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University


If it was comforting once then it will surely be helpful everytime. Plus if they were
fixed together then that may mean that they will have checkups together.

Cassandra
From: blymn@awadi.com.au (Brett Lymn)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Spaying cat? HELP!
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:49:38
Organization: AWA Defence Industries
	<1992Nov8.043323.16630@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
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In-reply-to: jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu's message of 8 Nov 92 04:33:23 GMT

>>>>> On 8 Nov 92 04:33:23 GMT, jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith) said:
Julia> Nntp-Posting-Host: troi.cc.rochester.edu

Julia> In article <1992Nov8.032113.15373@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:
Julia> (concern about spaying cat deleted for sake of space)
Julia>   
Julia> Please please please please please - if you love your cat, do not force
Julia> it to go through the misery of not being spayed.  To quote Anitra Frazier:
                                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Who is this????

Julia> Unspayed female cats generally become high-strung, nervous, and jumpy.
Julia> they are usually thin and debilitated.

My "owner", Bianca is a 10 year old, unspayed Chinchilla.  She is not
in _any_ way high-strung etc, she is one of the nicest cats I have had
the pleasure of sharing my life with.  She is healthy and happy, she
does visit the vets (but not if she can help it) and they agree.

Julia>  Going through heat after heat
Julia> drains their body.  They easily fall victim to any disease germ that
Julia> happens to be around -- their resistance is very low.

From my experience with Bianca, she does not constantly stay in heat.
After calling for a few days she stops.  Besides you can get, for want
of a better expression, "the pill" for cats, we use Perlutex which
shortens the time the cat will call for.

Julia>  The female's ovaries
Julia> manufacture eggs with each heat.  Unlike humans these eggs are not released
Julia> and passed out of the body, but remain there unless/until the cat is 
Julia> fertilized.  If the cat goes through heat and is not fertilized, these
Julia> unused eggs are encysted.  Cystic ovaries are a sign of a female who
Julia> has gone into heat several times before being spayed.

Not qualified to comment apart from saying that Bianca shows not signs
of distress.
  
Julia>   Neutered cats are spared the constant stress of being in heat.

Neutered cats are spared the constant kittens if the cat owner cannot
restrain the cat.  Unfortunately neutered cats are also lower in the
cat social order.

Julia>  Being
Julia> in heat is painful and debilitating - it takes alot out of the cat and
Julia> is very stressful.  Do you really want to put your baby through that kind
Julia> of constant pain?

I would not say pain, a lot of yowling and carrying on.  Marking all
sorts of things and maybe a bit grumpy but not pain.


Sorry, I could not let something pass that is *totally* out of kilter
with my experience.  I will say though, that if you are not willing to
make the commitment to ensuring absolutely that your cat is not going
to be roaming around then you should have the cat spayed.  The world
does not need extra unwanted kittens.

--
Brett Lymn
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