From: Earthling@ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: William Cooper
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:57:36 GMT
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                    BO GRITZ AND GOVERNMENT SECRECY
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   Date: 12 Oct 92
   From: Gregory B Lush

   Col. James 'Bo' Gritz is was an independent candidate for President and n
   was on the ballot in a couple dozen or so states.  The following is an
   excerpt from a question and answer session following a speech he gave in
   Tehachapi, California.  I think it is of interest to you readers.

   Begin quoting.

              Question: What about William Cooper and his claims about
              extraterrestrials and the Kennedy assassination?


              Bo:    It's a great and a good question and a fair one about
              Bill Cooper and all that he says including the part about
              when I was Commander of Special Forces in Latin America, I
              had something to do with the alien stuff.    Here's the real
              quick run down...

              First of all,    Bill Cooper caught himself in a terrible lie.
              He shot himself.    We didn't do it to him.  Bill Cooper had
              been selling a tape made by someone who worked for me by the
              name of Lars Hansen.    Allegedly, it shows the driver, Bill
              Greer, turning around and killing the President, but, Bob
              Groden is a friend of mine, he was the man for the
              Congressional Assassinations Committee who was their
              technical film advisor.    Life magazine bought up the
              Zapruder film, but, Groden had access to it for the
              Congressional Investigations.    So, Groden made himself a
              first generation copy.    I told Lars, when he showed me that,
              I said, 'Lars, you got big trouble.    We never shoot anybody
              with a chrome-plated 45.    We've got so much stuff we could
              use, you'd never use something that would reflect like
              that.'    Secondly, the driver impossible.  The reason is
              because the driver has got to control that vehicle.    If
              you're going to kill the President, I don't care how
              hypnotized you've been or how little blood you've got in
              your veins, you don't kill the President every day and turn
              around and have to direct your attentionyou know what
              happens when you turn around if you drop a cigarette butt
              between your knees or you turn around to get something that
              falls off the seatand so, I said, 'It's just too tricky and
              you don't need it because there's enough ways to get him
              without using the driver.'

              So Lars went to Bob Groden and when he went there Bob Groden
              laughed and pulled out his 1st generation and gave us a copy
              of it and it very clearly shows that it is Kellerman.
              Kellerman is in the right-hand seat.    Kellerman gets down
              when the bullets start flying, then just as the President is
              killed, Kellerman raises up.    When he raises up, the sun
              reflects off of Kellerman's hair.  The same as it's
              reflecting off the other peoples hair, but, the bar is kind
              of a bright bar,    It's slanted up this way and Greer, on the
              1st generation film, has both hands on the wheel just like
              this (Bo demonstrates hand position).    He is turned and
              looked at the President, but, both hands are locked, just
              like they're taught to be locked, so the vehicle isn't going
              to veer.    He turns around, looks at the Presidentno
              question, I think Greer is probably in on it, 'cause he's
              slowing the vehicle downbut, Kellerman lifts up, the bar of
              light shows off his hair, the President is hit in the head.
              I believe from the right front, and, of course, you all know
              the result of it.

              Now, Cooper, of course, has said that he saw that and all
              the secret documents.    Let me give you some logic.
              Does anybody believe that I was a Chief of Congressional
              Relations in the Office of Secretary of Defense?    Does
              anybody believe that I was an Army General Staff Officer in
              the Pentagon?    I have been there at the highest levels of
              classification.    As a Chief of Congressional Relations,
              there were almost no documents that weren't available
              because you have to be there to determine whether Congress
              has the clearance to see the stuff that they request.    Like
              when Senator Barry Goldwater wanted to go into Hangar 18 at
              Wright Patterson, somebody had to see whether or not it was
              all right and they said, 'No, you can't go.'    Somebody was
              authorized to look and see.    I didn't know anything about
              flying saucers in those days, or aliens and so I didn't go
              looking around, but, I guess I probably could have.

              Here's my point.    Cooper says that when the watch
              officer Cooper's never claimed to be an officer.    He keeps
              saying he's been a Naval Intelligence Officer.  That's a
              lie.    Cooper's been an enlisted man, there's no question.
              He was an enlisted man in the Navy and in the Air Force.
              Cooper said that when the Naval Watch Officer went for
              coffee that he grabbed a file and copied it.    Now, here's
              the problems with that.    See, Cooper's never been around
              classified information.

              First of all, Watch Officers don't go for coffee.    They send
              the enlisted man, probably, to get it.    Secondly, if you do
              go, every safe has a red and green tag.    It says 'Open' or
              it says 'Closed'.    On every safe there is a place to sign in
              and sign out.    If you even take your eyes off those
              containers, you spin all the dials, you put the green tags
              in and you sign them and then you go to the men's room or to
              get coffee.    Nobody leaves those safes open.  Secondly,
              there is no Xerox machine authorized anywhere around
              classified information containers.    Can you understand why?
              Xerox almost put us out of the security business anyway,
              but, you can understand why you couldn't have a Xerox.

              Thirdly, and here's the greatest problem with his logic can
              you imagine having in one file that a Navy person could go
              through and look and find one file that tells everything
              from the aliens to government drug trafficking, to who
              killed John Fitzgerald Kennedy, to everything else that he
              says.  It was all in one file?  Give me a break.

              It would be in probably twenty five files and it would be
              all over the place and why would they have that kind of
              information in Hawaii?    You see, they don't copy this stuff
              and put it all over.    If it is 'code word', if it is coded,
              then sometimes an Admiral may have to fly all the way from
              Hawaii to Washington in order to see a 'code word' document
              that is S.I. Special Intelligence, Above Top Secret, because

              they don't let these things out, they don't Xerox them and
              send them all out.

              When I was in command of Special Forces Latin America, I
              knew a lot about what was going on within the CIA and our
              covert operations.    My efficiency report is right in here.
              It says, 'This officer is responsible for unconventional
              warfare in Latin America.'    Unconventional warfare, guerilla
              warfare, subversion, sabotage, assassinations, direct action
              missions, all of those were within my scope of
              responsibilities.    I didn't know anything about aliens.  I
              had never heard anything about them.    I knew about the
              government drug operations.    I didn't like it, but, as a
              commander, you are always taught you keep your eye on your
              mission.

              So, when Manuel Noriega turns up dirty dealing in Operation
              Watch Tower, we're going to kill him and that's what we send
              back.    Then, when I'm ordered by a three star general,
              Harold Arons says, 'You keep your hands off Manuel Noreiga.
              He has immense value at the highest levels.'    What are you
              going to do?    You don't know how this thing is interfacing
              with the world.    You have to have some faith in great white
              father and big brother.    That's why there is no original
              thought in uniform.    If you've got people in uniform looking
              like Schwarzkopfpeople saying, 'Make Schwarzkopf
              President.'    Maybe in three or four years if Schwarzkopf
              will start getting his head up and learning what's going on,
              he might make a good President.    But, coming out of uniform,
              friends, you know far more than General Schwarzkopf right
              now about what's real in the world.

              So, that's the story.    I think Cooper got caught and I think
              he got mad.    He put on his phone answering machine, 'If you
              support Bo Gritz, Jesus Christ will not claim you.'    (Crowd
              laughter)    I don't know what Cooper knows about Jesus.  I
              know this if you looked, for example, at my files, it says
              very clearly, 'This officer is given Top Secret clearance,
              background investigation this date...'  It's easy to show.
              It's no big deal.    But, Cooper has never produced a single
              document that has ever shown that he has even had access.
              Your assignments say, 'This officer was a Chief of
              Congressional Relations... this period of time.'    Cooper has
              no documents that show or he's ever presented I've got his
              file that shows he had any kind of assignment that would
              allow him to have any other clearance than maybe he turned
              the lights on and off for a briefing one time.
              Here is what we're going to do.    You see, if the alien thing
              is real you know, about The Grays and The Reptilians here's
              what happens: Who created us?    God.  Thank you.  Who created
              government?    We the people created government.  Now, if we

              created the government, should there be secrets?    There is a
              need for national security, but, friends, if there are
              aliens and when I say, 'I'm going to open up Hangar 18' that
              doesn't mean that's all.    When I say, 'If you want to go
              into Hangar 18, we're taking volunteers.' I mean that we are
              going to open the book, because I don't care what's in
              there.

              Don't you think America should know what is going on?    We
              need to know the history, all the way back from the very
              beginning.    We need to know whether it was Nazis flying
              saucers or whether it was from outer space.    We need to know
              what landed at Roswell (New Mexico) or crashed and that they
              were so secret that they wouldn't let Barry Goldwater look
              at it.    We need to know these things.  Why?  It's our
              country.    Who are we keeping the secrets from?  The
              Russians?    Mikhail Gorbachev perhaps? No, and so, do you
              understand when I say, 'We're going to open the doors to
              Hangar 18', what does that mean?  It doesn't mean that we
              say, 'Hide everything in Hangar 18, we're getting ready to
              open the doors.'    It means the whole program gets their
              doors opened.

              If you want to be part of it, if you've got some skill and
              knowledge, you make sure we get your name and address.    I'll
              guarantee you that when we're in the office, you'll be one
              that will be one of a party of a hundred.    You think that
              this inspection in Iraq is going to be in detail?    We're
              going to get to the bottom.    We need to know if the aliens
              are here to help us GOOD.    If they are here to not nibble on
              our ankles, we need to know that, don't we?  So let's just
              get to the truth.    Isn't the truth a very precious
              commodity?    But, it sure isn't easy.

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