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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Hooking a PC into an AppleTalk Network
From: hippo@sonoma.edu (Michel Davidoff)
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:49:03 PDT
Organization: Sonoma state university

In article <1SEP199216431380@zeus.tamu.edu> rpb0804@zeus.tamu.edu (BATES, ROBERT PATRICK) writes:
>Subject: Hooking a PC into an AppleTalk Network
>From: rpb0804@zeus.tamu.edu (BATES, ROBERT PATRICK)
>Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:43:00 GMT
>Howdy!  I'm new to the group, and was just wondering if anyone knew of a quick 
>'n' dirty way to patch a PC into an existing AppleTalk network.  The situation 
>is that our dorm has some Macs running on a homemade ATalk network running 
>AppleShare (?), but they would be willing to install TOPS if it would make 
>things any easier.  I do know that there is a BIOS vector in PC's that is 
>addressed by ATALK.SYS and used by TOPS, but have no idea as to where/what/how 
>to secure hardware to make the connection as another node to the network.
>
>Thanks bunches!
>
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>Robert Bates                        Disclaimer:
>rpb0804@zeus.tamu.edu                   "I make no claims..."
>Texas A & M University
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You can buy Farallon Phone net card. It's about $215 for the card and the 
software. It's cheap and dirty (It does not do every thing but it sort of 
works) I just read his morning that farallon is comming out with a new 
version you might want to wait. No need to buy Tops.

Michel Davidoff
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: lacey@dsea.com (Dan Lacey )
Subject: CAP and LARGE PS files
Keywords: CAP Postscript EPS EPSF
Organization: Dainippon Screen Engineering of America, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:03:45 GMT

I am usually a happy CAP user. I have recently been trying to send 
PostScript files from a MAC to a lwsrv process on an SGI Indigo.
The lwsrv process seems to drop data while receiving EPS files included
in a PostScript document. The document was created using QuarkXpress 3.1.

I sent the same page using KSpool (from Xinet), which runs on Phase 2
EtherTalk, and the file came over OK.

The reason I suspect packet loss is because when you look at the PS
data and get to the EPS binary data, then try to skip over the data
using the byte number value in the PS file, you will shoot past the 
endbinary comment.

My SGI is running cap6.0 Patch level 100 (ALL PATCHES!!! Could someone
tell me where to find an officially patched 6.0???). I am using
Phase 1 EtherTalk. 

Can someone give me some advice on where to start looking for the problem???

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*					Dan Lacey ( lacey@dsea.com )
*					Dainippon Screen Eng. of America
*					3700 W. Segerstrom Ave.
*					Santa Ana, CA. 92714
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					lacey@dsea.com
					Dainippon Screen Eng. of America
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz)
Subject: AUFS FPEnumerate bug?
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:53:37 GMT

I seem to have stumbled upon an elusive bug in AUFS.  Basically what
happens is that a directory "disappears" from the client end after the
first session.  Nothing visible has changed on the server side.  The
directory remains disappeared from session to session until I change
the file count on the server... if I either add or remove a file
(sibling), the missing directory magically reappears on the next
session for exactly one session... thereafter it disappears again.

I have observed this on directories on the top level of a volume,
and moving stuff around causes a different directory to display the
same behavior.

I've been spending all afternoon digging through tons of aufs debugging
output with little success.  The missing directory _does_ get located
by OSEnumGet, but the only explanation I can think of is that somehow
FPEnumerate doesn't return the right values.  But the really strange
thing is that adding or removing a sibling file/dir causes the directory
to reappear on the next session, then only to disappear again on the
following session.

Anybody else seen this behavior?  Any clues about where to dig?
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: fredette@athena.mit.edu (Matthew H Fredette)
Subject: Quirks in Apple's AIR, questions about my AIR.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:49:42 GMT

Previously, I read in an article here about some "quirks" of Apple's AppleTalk
Internet Router. (i.e. behavior not documented or not corresponding to Inside
AppleTalk)  Seeing that I am (or was- now that I'm back at school I doubt
progress will continue for a few months) writing software for an AIR, could
someone come up with a list of these bugs/"extra features"/annoyances, or
whatever you would call them?

Also, if there is a newsgroup for this, I figure this must be it: would there be
any interest in a piece of software with which you would "build" an AIR? 
Basically, when I started out on the project, it was really just a challenge to
see if I could do it.  Now that 97% of the code is in and debugging has begun,
would administrators see taking an IBM PC-class machine, throwing two (or more)
Ethernet boards into it, and running my software, as an attractive solution to
needing a router?  The whole thing is built to use the Clarkson packet drivers,
and in fact the package allows any suite of "routing modules" to be installed at
any one time - although the only person writing them is me right now, and the
only module I've created is the AIR.  So what does anyone/everyone think?  Worth
my time to finish it?

Matt
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From: johnc@synopsys.com (John Crossley)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: error conditions and diagnostic procedures
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:33:01 GMT
Organization: Synopsys, Inc.

In article <9208150034.AA18320@fraser.sfu.ca> mclagan@sfu.ca (Scott 
McLagan) writes:
> Could someone tell me what an Overrun is, whether I should be concerned,
> and if so, how to reduce them?

In my case the overuns were caused by too slow of a Mac monitoring the 
network.  Once I put a Mac IIci on the job, the overuns (almost) 
disappeared.

John Crossley             johnc@synopsys.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: henry@geo.ucalgary.ca (Henry Bland)
Subject: Re: CAP6.0 and Dayna EtherPrint
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:27:19 GMT
Organization: Geology & Geophysics, University of Calgary, Canada

In article <1992Sep3.145124.11837@news.Hawaii.Edu> brad@ahi.pbrc.hawaii.edu (Brad Jones) writes:

   My problem is that I can't see any LaserWriters on our network with
   atlook or atlooklws.  Both printers are connected to the ethernet via
   Dayna EtherPrint boxes (ethertalk <-> localtalk converters).  The
   Macs all recognize both printers.

If you don't have an appletalk router on your ethernet segement (just macs
and unix boxes) you need to run aaprd with a domain of * like this:

   aarpd le0 '*'

Worked for us.

Cheers,
-Henry Bland
University of Calgary, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: bartjan@cs.kun.nl (Bart-Jan Bouwers)
Subject: Internet <-> Apple address translation
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:41:59 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking for good documentation describing de translation of internet
addresses to Apple addresses and all things that go with it...
Does anybody know what book/ftp-docs/etc. I can use for that?
Thanks in advance. 

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From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Network software
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:51:16 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville, Oregon

> EtherPeek - AG

This is a protocol snooper.  When it works, it's quite good.  A big win
is that you can examine old packets while continuing to gather new ones.

When it doesn't work, it's horrid.  It has crashed on me more times
than I can count.  I've learned to save important packet traces to disk
before trying to examine any packets.

Its major design flaw is that it can't distinguish PAP from ASP from ...
packets on its own, but requires the user to select a decoder.  You
must make this selection *each* time you click on a packet; it has no
memory of what protocol layer you're working with.  Competing products
handle this much better.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
From: rick@ransom.msc.cornell.edu (Rick Cochran)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Integration of CAP 6.0 and Adobe Transcript 3.0
Keywords: CAP Transcript
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:03:19 GMT
Organization: Cornell Materials Science Center

We have been using CAP 5 and Adobe Transcript 2.1 happily for years but now
want to use native EtherTalk.

Does CAP 6.0 still require Transcript utilities?  If so, which version of
Transcript?

Are there any plans to update papif along the lines of pscomm in
Transcript 3.0?

Has anybody built a back-end for the 3.0 pscomm which will do AppleTalk,
thereby replacing papif?

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Pedro Cardoso <pcardoso@animal.inescn.pt>
Subject: CAP on SUN - printing from a MAC II Si into a unix network
Organization: INESC Porto
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d1
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 11:36:09 GMT

We have just installed CAP on a SPARC 2 workstation.
We have a HP LaserJet III D connected to the SPARC 2 through its serial
port.
Our Mac II Si has got an ethertalk card installed, and we also have the
Macintosh
LaserJet III D driver.
What do we need to do to print from the MAC directly to the HP laser?
From: infocenter@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: RS6000 / how to connect from a Mac ???
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:03:54 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland

how to connect to a RS6000. I was told it needs a special emulation,
which is not compatible to any of the mostly used vt100..vt340, 3270.

What exactly do I need ?
How is the emulation called ?
What is special to know abput ?
Which product offers a reliable communication ?

Thanks for your help


bye ....................................................................  Didi

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From: th@bnr.co.uk (Tony Heskett)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: setdefaulttimeouts probs
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:18:21 GMT
Reply-To: th@bnr.co.uk (Tony Heskett)
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB


Julian Turnbull writes (re "setdefaulttimeouts") :
 
> Here, we get round it by patching lwsrv to toss away the
> offending chunk of PostScript (not just that line).  However, I
> haven't offered that patch to djh because

Which were the other bits you threw, please, and why ?

> (a) it's a dirty hack;
> (b) when I did it, no-one else was complaining of the problem,
>     so I thought it must be something peculiar about our local setup.
> Now I'm seeing a couple of messages that suggest the problem is
> more widespread, and I'm starting to wonder why _everybody_
> isn't seeing it.

That's funny, that's just what we thought ...

> Can someone out there offer an explanation (or a more elegant
> solution)?

I can offer a dirtier solution ('cos I didn't want to change the C
source).   Use the -C switch on lwsrv to define a different print
command from lpr/lp, then put this in a script with the name you
chose:

  #!/bin/sh
   
  # Filename is the last argument that lwsrv passes to lpr.
  FILENAME=`echo $* | awk '{print $NF}'`
   
  # Hack the setdefaulttimeout line out of the PostScript file.
  /usr/stl/bin/perl -p -i -e 's/^.*setdefaulttimeout.*$//;' ${FILENAME}
   
  # Re-run the original print job with the fixed-up file.
  /usr/ucb/lpr $@

No shame, eh ?  :-)    

BTW, sed silently lost half the file, presumably because some of
the lines were too long.   Thanks, Larry.

A bit later, tilley@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Tilley) writes:

> The prep file I looked at only executed  "setdefaulttimeouts" if
> the current "waittimeout" was less than 300 seconds. The default
> on most printers will be 30 seconds.  Changing this default to
> 300 bypassed the problem.

I looked for this setdefaulttimeout command in the Transcript
s/w, got Mac to print to local disk (PS file) and checked there,
grepped through all the CAP procsets ...    I could only find it
in the file in the Unix spool directory.

So what gives ?   Do I have to save a new procset, then change the
30 sec to 300 sec in there ?    If so, could you p'raps point me in
the correct direction for instructions on how to do this ?

Incidentally, I should be following the postings here but if you've
got any really great suggestions (or flames 8^)  I'd be chuffed
if you'd email me them too.  If not, no prob.

Cheers - Tony
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From: fredette@athena.mit.edu (Matthew H Fredette)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: NBP type field used for routers?
Keywords: NBP, router
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:27:12 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Hello, all.  I'm currently working on the software for an AppleTalk router, and I
was wondering what NBP type a router is supposed to be.  I don't have any kind of
packet sniffing software yet so that I can query the routers I have, and to write
any would take some time.  Does anyone out there know?

Thanks,

Matt

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From: rouilj@dl5000.bc.edu (John P. Rouillard)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Some interesting AUFS problems
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:49:37 GMT
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

In article <JAAPJL.92Aug26170100@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov> 
	jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap) writes:

>> In article <ROUILJ.92Aug24151134@dl5000.bc.edu> 
>>	rouilj@dl5000.bc.edu (John P. Rouillard) writes:
>> I got CAP 6.0 pl 100 up and running this past weekend (pl 125 will be
>> next weekend's project no doubt 8-)) and I am having a few problems
>> with setting up/viewing the directories on the Unix box.
> 
> A question:  What kind of Unix box?  (Not that I can necessarily help,
> but it would help others help you.)  I suggest a followup. :-)

Erp. Ultrix 4.2A, DECstation 5000/120.  (I thought it was in the
article honest).

>>      2) We automount the home directories for users. However, when I
>>	 attempt to AUFS mount the automount point, chooser quits with an
>>	 error #4. Note that the automount directory appears to be a read
>>	 only directory. How do I get this point to mount properly.
>
>   Our evidence seems to indicate that AUFS doesn't deal with NFS-mounted
>   filesystems.  Our workarounds have been to start AUFS on every system
>   that a Mac user has files on, or to move all the Mac users' home
>   directories to one system, which then runs AUFS.  We'd also be interested
>   in any fixes for AUFS for NFS.


Hmm, once I started the lockd, and statd, and enabled the flag in the
kernel, nfs worked just fine. Without the startup, every nfs file
would end up as being locked, no doubt because the lockf, flock, ...
calls were failing. Maybe you should try eliminating file locking
under CAP, and see if your NFS problems go away. If they do tell your
vendor to fix their nfs locking code.

-- John
From: un041111@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Mac printing over Novell network HELP!!??
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:29:32 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

We have struggled with our Mac equipment and our Novell network
for weeks trying to get everything to work together properly.
We are running Novell Netware 3.11 and Mac Netware 3.01 on a
Zenith 386/33 file server, with 10BaseT wiring.  We are mostly an IBM
compatible-based installation, but we have a few clients who
need Macintosh services on the network.  We have a combination
of Shiva and Asante network cards for our Mac II, IIsi's, and
SE/30s.  We are using the latest software version for these
cards, and the Asante software drives both cards equally well.
We have queues set up on the Novell server using ATPS print
server drivers.

The problems we have are:

o	How do we get Macintosh printers to be recognized on the
network?  We have a LaserWriter IIg that may connect directly to
Ethernet, and two LaserWriters connected to Macs.  Is there some
hardware/software that lets the Network know that a printer is
here, associated with a print queue, and available to other Macs
via the Chooser?  It is not easily possible to run LocalTalk connections
from the File Server to all of the Macintosh equipment, and seems silly
since the Ethernet is already in place.
o	All of our Macs are running System 7.0 or higher.  We
have had a problem with "time-outs" when connecting a Mac to our
file server.  After a login is established on the network, the
Macintosh will become very sluggish, allowing the user about 5
seconds to use the arrow cursor to work, and then timing out
with the watch cursor for about 35 seconds, and repeating the
cycle until you log out of the network.  It does not happen with
a bare-bones System 7 install, followed by a reboot with
extensions off, followed by installing the card drivers.  Any
hints as to what causes this?
o	Any info about setting up multiple queues for multiple zones?

Any help would be worth dinner, wherever and whenever,
vegetarian or no (if geographically possible).

Dave Singleton, Jeff Fluharty, Kathy Myers
Three People Ready To Drop-Kick a Mac, or Novell Server, or Both.
Reply here or to:  UN041111@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU, or single@exodus.wvnet.edu
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From: fj@dc.luth.se (Fredrik Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: aufs - Woops, no more sessions
Date: 4 Sep 92 10:58:33 GMT
Organization: University of Lulea, Sweden

Our aufs loggs : "Woops, no more sessions" when the 54:th asks for connection.

We are using CAP 6.0 pl 100 + enet filter on a SUN 670 MP.
We have started aufs with 60 allowed clients but we'll need about 80 and
will start with -U 80 at next restart.

Aufs asks for a new session with SPGetSession() and it returns
with NoMoreSessions. That can happen when either out of sessions or atp sockets.

Is it resonable that a aufs server can't connect more than 53 clients or
is this a configuration error or a bug ?

Please help, I'm not familiar with the kernel of CAP.


-Fredrik

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From: rizzo@HUB.ENG.WAYNE.EDU (Frank Rizzo 7-0390)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: CAP 6.1 AUFS problems...
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:15:30 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I can't get AUFS to compile properly after I installed patches 101-126...

Can anybody help me with this?

Here is the important part...

cc -DHIDE_LWSEC_FILE -DFULL_NCS_SUPPORT -DGGTYPE="gid_t" -DUSEDIRSETGID -DNETWORKTRASH -DUSESTATFS -DUSESUNQUOTA -DPHASE2 -O4   -DNOCASEMATCH -DSIZESERVER -DSTAT_CACHE -DTREL_TIMEOUT -DAUTHENTICATE -DUSE_HOST_ICON -DPERMISSIVE_USER_NAME -DUSE_MAC_DATES -DAPPLICATION_MANAGER -DREREAD_AFPVOLS -DXDEV_RENAME -DUSR_FILE_TYPES -DCREATE_AFPVOL=\"mac\" -c afpos.c
cc  -o aufs aufs.o afpos.o afpvols.o afpfile.o  afpmisc.o afpserver.o aufsicon.o abmisc2.o  afpdt.o afpdir.o afpfork.o afpdid.o afposenum.o afpavl.o  afposfi.o afpgc.o afppasswd.o aufsv.o  afpudb.o afposncs.o afpspd.o   \
         -lafp -lcap 
ld: Undefined symbol 
   _make_userlogin 
*** Error code 2
make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `aufs'

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