From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Bad guys (Re: what can be done toward a better IRAN ?)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 01:55:56 GMT
Organization: With highest regards,

In article <sehari.717544288@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak
Sehari) writes:

>Once again we hear the cry of wolf!  Look at what is happening to Moslems
>in Bosnia.  Their homes was taken away from them.  Their women have been
>raped.  Their children is shot to death, and I can go on and on.

Very good observation, Babak.  It is sad, isn't it?  A crime happening in
one place does not reduce a crime happening in another place.

>Look at
>this United States,  All the Bahis have given easy access to the best
>universities, while they have made the life extremely hard for majority
>of the Iranians.

Usage of word 'all' is very dangerous, logically speaking.  I was not given
any easy access to the best universities, such as UC Berkeley, MIT, Stanford,
and several others.  Perhaps you ought to rephrase your statement above and
claim "majority of Baha'is have been given easy acess . . . .'  I transferred
to San Jose State University.  By the way I was already studying in one of
the best universities of my country of birth, a university whose lowest GPA
to accept a freshman student was 17 (according to Iranian educational system).

Now, can you be kind and enlighten us how few handful of Iranian Baha'is made
life so hard for majority of Iranians?

>Off course, what is their purpose is to create an elite
>with false credential to show the majority of the Iranian people that
>people who are not Moslem are more intelligent!  As if religion makes one
>smart. -:)

Per your observation above, acceptance of a religion does not make a person
smart.  A student studies hard to earn a degree, or at least that was the
norm when I went to school over 10 years ago.  Has it changed these days?
Do universities today grant _false_ credentials?

>Considering the way others treat us, we are saint man!  We do not shoot babies
>, as it is being done to Bosnian people.  We do not perform psychological
>experiment on people the way it is being done here.

Just following Behnam's calm way of inquiry, could I ask you please to 
elaborate who you are referring to by 'We?'

>Your commands might have captured the hurt of young and un-experienced
>high school kids, the way we used to be before we saw the world.  Yes, it
>might not seem fair, but yet again what else is fair?!  Now, we know 
>better:

I do not recall I commanded any one.  I do recall I shared.  Sharing is a
wonderful non-threatening way of expressing a view point.  The process
asks nothing in return.  It does not enforce a view; it only serves to
inform the 'shanavandeh' of another way of looking at the issue at hand
without making the 'hearer' obligated to follow the view itself.

The original post was so sincere that 'be delam neshast.'  That's all, sir.
I apologize if my wolf cry has intimidated some naive people who might
decide to listen to my points.

As for things to remain unfair, I can UNDERSTAND your view point perfectly,
but it still does not explain why it's unfair.  BTW, the genoside and
persecution of Baha'is started 150 years ago before there was any Bosnia.
Furthermore, can I deduct from your way of reasoning that there is INDEED
some _unfair_ laws enforced against Baha'is in Iran?  I thought you were
implying there was no such thing, and that the cry was bogus!

>"trahom bar plang tiz dandan
>                  Satam kari bovad bar gosfandan"
>
>Mercy to tiger is cruelty to the sheeps.

OK, I am a tiger and all innocent non-Baha'i Iranians are sheeps.  Never
mind the poor analogy (read as 'band-e tonbAni' analogy, [(c) 92, bavafa]).
In your esteemed, logical, and just system of living, can you demonstrate to
us - using few relevant historical evidence - when, where, how Baha'is acted
as 'palang' to oppress (setam) poor 'gosfands?'

There is nothing wrong to accuse somebody of a crime (in this case killing
'gosfandAn' is indeed a crime).  Don't you think so?  But then the burden of
proof is within the _accuser_, and not the _accused_.  :-)

Oh, I forgot.  Perhaps we are in another 'victim responsibility' cycle.
Please let me know if it is me who has to prove that he has not 'setam'ed
any naive 'gosfand.' :-)  If yes, then I better prepare myself for the 
hearing.  Oh, well, it's not necessary.  The IRI court doesn't _grant_ me
a court date any ways so I better go and prepare myself to hear the case
of Seyyed (REM: he has put me in queue until my turn comes!).  I hope his
is as easy as this one, i.e., prosecution without a privilege to appear in
the court of law.


Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 322-8056                    

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