From: knguyen@emr.ca (Khanh Kim Nguyen)
Newsgroups: alt.war.vietnam
Subject: Re: NGO DINH DIEM
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:48:59 GMT
Followup-To: alt.war.vietnam
Organization: emr

In article <1992Oct1.212500.19848@lgc.com>, tuan@lgc.com (Tuan Nguyen)
wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Oct1.193920.16563@emr1.emr.ca> khanh kim nguyen <knguyen@emr.ca> writes:
> >Agreed. But one thing we have to look at is about generals and officers who
> >killes Mr. Ngo-dinh-Diem. Almost those faces live in France now.Read memoirs 
> >about their life, you will feel sad. Those are thugs who are not trained to
> >govern, but to get fat and to run abroad fast. You will see many of them 
> >have two nationalities (Vietnamese and French).  
> >In brief, if we are good, more educated, compassionate nobody can 
> >overthhrow our elected government.
> 		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Please, do not try to get the rest of us here confused between "fiction"
> and "history".
> 
> What "elected government"? The fact is, "self-appointed" should be the 
> more accurate term to describe the government of Ngo Dinh Diem.  Had he 
> shown any compassion at all towards his people, his fate and his younger 
> brother's would have been different.  Diem's aloofness and distance from 
> the very people he claimed to represent prevented him from truly 
> understanding what the people really wanted.
> 
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Hi,
I really don't understand what from my posting makes you confused. What is 
*fiction* and what is *history* in it ? I sincerely need your pointing. 
The debate and the appraisal of the events need persons on both sides of
the 
coin.
Is *elected government* that you are talking about ? If so, I tell you why
I put that down .
- The original posting about Ngo-dinh-Diem points out one of reasons why 
his regime collapses. But, blaming ourselves is my point, too. What you 
mention
is exactly what people think why he ends up in that tragedy. But,
- You don't agree about *elected government*, instead you use
*self-appointed*.
You mean he was *self-appointed* by US because he was once educated in US
and
brought back VN by US ?
I agree the fact but decipher it in another way. Gandhi has got his lawyer 
title from his Britsh colonist; his mission on his homeland is successful. 
Akihito of Japan has been taught in his early days by a woman in
Philadelphia;
his different style of a Japanese king earns respect from Japanese. 
Papandopoulos of Greece once lived in exile in US and Canada; his socialist

governing style(originating from Canada ?) first has gone well but later
still been brought down because of corruption. Salinas of Mexico has got 
his degree from Havard; his effort to modernize the economy of Mexico 
starts to bear fruits.
My point is that what do you expect more at that time. Before 1953, we 
were still living in a feudal society. The word *democratic* echoes here
and 
there in books but was not materialized. Ngo-dinh-Diem was in a *elected 
process* to set up the first democratic regime. At least his background 
accumulated in US  helps the the process of democracy. In politics, you can

guess what happens when things goes wrong. People after him was worse than
him.
Sincerely yours,

Khanh Kim Nguyen
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