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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Adaptation in Japan(was Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:44:25 GMT
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Kenji> This shows a typical recognition of citizenship in Japan. Most of
Kenji> Japanese citizens are black-or-brown-eyed and have black-or-brown
Kenji> hair. Quite a lot of people here misunderstand that your parents have
Kenji> to be Japanese if you are Japanese. The idea of immigration itself is
Kenji> still considered foreign here because of an illusion that Japan
Kenji> consists of one ethnic group, which has not been dead yet since WWII.

My wife has a uncle and a lot of cousins living here in Japan (They were
originally from Taiwan). Someday I wonder when I asked why they hide
their identity (about being Taiwanese. They have Japanese names,
japanese nationality,etc.). I was surprised how her uncle was afraid
about some japanese finding out that he is taiwanese. He said:"No..
No.. The japanese are going to put fire in my shop, in my house.."
Of course, I didn't think that, but probably that old man had his
psychological reasons to think about that. I wonder why the japanese
say "there's no immigration here" and there are about 1 million Japanese-
Koreans and some hundred of thousand of chinese/taiwanese living here
even before the WWII. (I'm not sure about the numbers... :-) )

Their adaption was the saddest one: "They quitted their identity, they
hide themselves, They lost their language and their culture, they didn't
have basic rights for a long time". Sometimes, I wonder if this is not
the kind of adaptation that the japanese society expects about the
foreigners...

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Kenji> Another discriminative action of our government to non-Japanese
Kenji> residents - why not they force us to keep ID cards? :)

good question...:-) 


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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan)
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:11:04 GMT
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cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond) writes:

>ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa) writes:

>>Correct me if I am wrong, but I think U.S.A. is in the minority in
>>that the country gives a baby born in U.S.A. automatic nationality (or
>>was it citizenship). I believe there are more countries in the world
...

>England , France , Israel .... all give citizenship to those who are
>born there.

According to a recent thread in s.c.j. it holds true for U.K. I'm
not so sure about France and Israel ....

Dave

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From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:51:53 GMT
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In-reply-to: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp's message of 8 Sep 92 06:32:36 GMT

In article <CLAUDE.92Sep8153236@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
    >>
    >>Shintaro> By the way, what is foreigner's stereotype exactly?
    >>Really, I would like to know... :-) However, when I say that
    >>I came from Brazil, everybody says: "Oh! Drink this and that
    >>coffee", when I say:"No, I don't drink coffee" eveybody get
    >>so surprised:"How can! You're a brazilian! (sic)". And the
Ha, ha ha.
This sounds like this:
I visit America and everyone assumes that
I am a black-belt Karate and Juudo player, have Geisha-girl friends
and tends to loose temper and commit Harakiri-suicide.

I believe communication reduces stereotyping.
An English teacher from America said:
at first all his Japanese students looked very similar to him.
He did not notice any difference of characters.
He even felt it hard to identify their faces.
But, the more he began to know each student,
the more he recognized the characters;
now he reallizes every his student is quite a character.

The problem is,
to establish communication beyond cultural difference is not easy.
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From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Real Name Declaration (Was: How to survive in Japan)
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:41:15 GMT
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From: inagaki@aclab1.resrch.anritsu.co.jp (Shintaro Inagaki)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 5 Sep 92 01:44:55 GMT
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In-reply-to: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp's message of 4 Sep 92 08:00:18 GMT

In article <CLAUDE.92Sep4170018@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
    >>
    >>Think about:
    >>	 -> How a long a foreigner can stay here? 
    >>	 -> What are their limitations?
    >>	 -> Don't Japanese stereotype foreigners?
    >> 
Yes, unfortunately some narrow minded Japanese really stereotype foreigners.
What's funny is they also stereotype Japanese, We-Japanese again.

I realized such a narrow-minded-separation when one of my American friends
told me his experience that:

He is a member of a sports club in Tokyo.
There is a shelf at the entrance of the club divided into many small divisions
to contain the cards of each member that records his sports activity.
The divisions are labeled with Japanese alphabet, A I U E O KA...,
so that each member has his card in the division of his initial;
for example Mr. Aoki has his card in the A division while
Mr. Kato has it in the KA's.
My friend said his card is in a division labeled Foreigners; he looked sad.

I believe such a system offends people, and the club should change it.

By the way, what is foreigner's stereotype exactly?

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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: Dave Spector (was Re: Tokyo Journal, Heroes, Fukushima Mizuho)
Date: 12 Sep 92 08:39:50 GMT
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mtachiba@rkna50.riken.go.jp (Masahiko Tachibana) writes:

>In article <SANTOS.92Sep10164219@melon.mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp> santos@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Rafael &) writes:
>>
>>In article <DAVE.92Sep9202748@pipi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> dave@pipi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (David Wuertele) writes:
>>
>>Uh, sorry, Dave, but who is Dave Specter (the name is familiar) and
>>which "contribution" he made to belong to the anti-hero list ?

>In my knowledge, he appeared in TV as Henna Gaijin, speaking Japanese very
>fast and joking terrible jokes (as Mr. Ishikawa and Mr. Wuertele says in
>other articles) that derives silence to the audiences.  This I think is 
>the case that too much adaption to Japan are not always welcomed.  At that 
>time of his first appearance several years ago, he was introduced as 'ABC 
>(maybe one of the three major in USA, not Asahi Ho^so^) Producer'.  

...

>I neither like him nor dislike him.  But I think at least he has wider 
>insight if compared with another guy from US who is believed to be 
>Matomona Gaijin, Kent Gilbert.

Could you tell me what 'Matomona' means? 

Maybe it means 'Perfect Gaijin' or 'GI (Government Issue) Gaijin' in
the sense that he looks and acts like something out of an English
Conversation Text book. IMHO his popularity comes from the fact that
he matches people's fantasies.... 

It must be a real shock to people when they meet ordinary gaijins
who may or may not act like him at all :-)

Dave

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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Subject: Re: No money for basic research?(was Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
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Kenji> I see many organizations who are violating the usage rule of Japan-US
Kenji> academic link - the link is only for academic and WIDE-supporting
Kenji> organizations (such as mei.co.jp and astem.or.jp). I insist that those
Kenji> who want to join and support Internet culture MUST have international
Kenji> reachablity by their own money - since it's technically very expensive
Kenji> and time-consuming to make international email UNreachable. Just
Kenji> paying some ten-thousand-yen bills to InetClub or subscribing UUNET
Kenji> will solve this problem peacefully.

However, without a clear policy and fund from the Mombusho or MITI, I
think this kind of action would be very difficult. We need governmental
support to create infra-structrue first. I admire, for instance, Finland
and other nordic countries where local PTTs offered commercial network
connectivity. I think we could do the same, but we need someone in
the government to create projects and infrastructure for a commercial
Internet. (Well, commercial Internet is a hot issue in the US too...)

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From: santos@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Rafael &)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: My favorit post (was Re: Tokyo Journal, Heroes...)
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:05:48 GMT
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In-reply-to: ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp's message of 14 Sep 92 14:04:29 GMT

In article <ISHIKAWA.92Sep14230443@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp> ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa) writes:

   >In article <DAVE.92Sep11212504@appi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp> dave@appi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (David Wuertele) writes:
   >
   >   In article <ISHIKAWA.92Sep10014234@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp> ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa) writes:
In article <ISHIKAWA.92Sep14230443@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp> ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa) writes:

   >   >For a list for the hero, do the people have to live in Tokyo? I want
   >   >to include a writer, Inoue Hisashi, but I think he lives in Chiba or
   >   >somewhere.
   >
   >   I don't think Tokyo is necessary, since we know that all superheroes can
   >   either fly or teleport.

MY FAVORIT POST OF THIS MONTH.

Now speaking seriously, which are the parameters for defining a "hero"
in this discussion ? Any relation with the theme "points of view and
behaviour" ? And for anti-hero ? 
But I understand why Dave Specter is in the anti-hero list :)


   >   Maybe a Meta-antihero?
   >
   >Well, maybe. Is meta-anti-hero apropos hero?
   >

[THIS IS A JOKE] I see a great need for fj.live.in-japan.meta.anti.hero,
but I know somebody will oppose... :)

WHEN WILL BE THE VOTE FOR fj.life.in-japan ? 

Rafael.
From: konagai@nttvdt.NTT.JP (Shunsuke Konagai)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:05:37 GMT
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In-reply-to: okamoto@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp's message of 5 Sep 92 04:45:13 GMT

In article <4486@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp>
	 okamoto@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp (Kenji Okamoto) writes:

>> In article <CLAUDE.92Sep4170018@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp>,
>> 	 claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:
>> 
>> >    -> Don't Japanese stereotype foreigners?
>> 
>> Is this true ? Please tell me more about this.

I did. (Hope I don't do it now.)

For example
I admired an American for his skill of using chopsticks.
I even wonderd when I met foreigners who speak fluent Japanese.
Everytime I got to know a foreigner, I wanted to ask him/her *THE* question.
  "How do you like Japan?" ;-)

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From: okamoto@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp (Kenji Okamoto)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Summary: Hahaha, I guess you got tired
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:44:37 GMT
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In article <CLAUDE.92Sep8172400@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp>, claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:

> "Can you use Fork and knives?", etc..etc.. In my first years here, I
> really didn't care about it, but after so many years I tired to be
> asked about chopsticks, Nattou, wasabi, etc... If I see someone 
> using chopsticks very well, I will thought that that person is
> living in Japan or used chopsticks for a long time and it's all.
> It's very unpleasant to be treated different even after so many
> years...

I guess your point is 'treated different EVEN after so many years'.
You got tired, Claude :-), because why anyone can know how long you are
living in Japan if it's the first time to meet you.

> It's very interesting, but usually "naive"things hurts more than
> things made intentionally when those things happens continously,
> in my opinion.

Maybe.
However, in that case, we can forgive it, if we know the reason, can't we ?

> Well, I said about "How is a kind of impossible to ADAPT to one society
> that thinks you should be different from them". I'm happy that there are
> people understanding these problems.

Yes, it's very important thing.   I remember this.

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From: araki@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Sumio Araki)
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
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In article <CLAUDE.92Sep9102944@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss) writes:

 |and agree with you when you say this kind of behaviour is due the culture
 |diferences.

Yes, I meant like this, and I also meant that adaptation in Japan is
very hard because of homogenized society.
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From: okamoto@earth.chigaku.souka.osakafu-u.ac.jp (Kenji Okamoto)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
Summary: I don't like recent youngs who forgot the importance of self-sacrifice
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:08:16 GMT
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In article <AKI.92Sep7125445@kagari.mel.toshiba.CO.JP>, aki@mel.toshiba.CO.JP (Yoshiaki Kohno) writes:

> individuals are often sacrificed for the sake of 'unity'.  I know
> cases where self-sacrifice is appreciated as one of Japanese virtue,
> and I don't like it.

If the self-sacrifice is focused only on to get 'unity', I don't like
if, too.   However, as a general tendency, I do not like to be familiar with
recent JAPANESE who seems to have forgotten the importance of self-sacrifice.
However, as this is only my impression, it may stand on wrong observation.
If so, I say sorry.  OOPS,  I seemed to have changed the subject.

Anyway, I would like to ask anyone on this net, why do you think that
Japanese society have the habitts to make all the thing 'unity'. 
Or in the other words, WE Japanese really want to be in uniform society,
I cann't believe this yet.  Is this reality ?

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From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
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Subject: Re: How to survive in Japan [English]
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[...Stuff about how to use chopsticks...]

Kenji> Funny, these seem to me very natural reaction for anyone not familiar with
Kenji> foreigners.  I wonder this kind of behaviour, very naive, hurt a foreigner.

I particularly won't care if someone ask me whether "I like Japan" or not.
However, (This is my *point of view*) I don't like people asking me if 
I can use chopsticks or not. Think about you living in America and
Europe and everybody saying all the time; "Have you eaten Hamburger?",
"Can you use Fork and knives?", etc..etc.. In my first years here, I
really didn't care about it, but after so many years I tired to be
asked about chopsticks, Nattou, wasabi, etc... If I see someone 
using chopsticks very well, I will thought that that person is
living in Japan or used chopsticks for a long time and it's all.
It's very unpleasant to be treated different even after so many
years...

It's very interesting, but usually "naive"things hurts more than
things made intentionally when those things happens continously,
in my opinion.


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Well, I said about "How is a kind of impossible to ADAPT to one society
that thinks you should be different from them". I'm happy that there are
people understanding these problems.

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