HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:08:01 EST
From:         Mark Heinicke <mark@GEOG5.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: FTP

More on compressed files (re: Jay Morgan) after reading Duane Marble's
reply to same:  uuencode is used to convert binary file into ASCII file
that can be sent by mail; uudecode converts back into binary.  An ftp'ed
file might be ASCII *or* binary.  What you might have is something
that was first compressed in Unix via "compress"--leaving a "[something].Z"
file, then "uuencoded" into ASCII form (and would probably have a
".Z" suffix at discretion of user), in which case it would first have to
be "uudecoded" and then uncompressed (into into its binary form, if that's
what it was).  How this is done on PC's I dunno.

Mark Heinicke
Dept. of Geography
University of Maryland at College Park
mark@geog5.umd.edu
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From: rob@zorro.cecer.army.mil (Rob Knauerhase)
Subject: Re: Where to find GRASS et. al.
X-Holiday: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:26:15 GMT

In <lk3egsINNq7g@news.bbn.com> adoyle@BBN.COM (Allan Doyle) writes:
>Bill Thoen and others told you where to get GRASS, but Bill modestly
>left out the fact that he maintains a great document called
>        internet.resources.earth.sci
>and he's made it available via anonymous FTP from
>        csn.org                 (this is the original source)
[...]
>Anyway, quoting from this document:
>"moon.cecer.army.mil           [129.229.1.16]

One quick correction; the moon has changed phase (so to speak :) and now
is IP number 129.229.20.254 .  Use the name "moon.cecer.army.mil" if you
can since it is guaranteed to always point to the correct machine.

Rob
--
Rob Knauerhase [rob@amber.cecer.army.mil]  Office of GRASS Integration
Construction Engineering Research Labs, US Army Corps of Engineers
"See, when the GOVERNMENT spends money, it creates jobs; whereas when the
 money is left in the hands of TAXPAYERS, God only knows what they do with it.
 Bake it into pies, probably.  Anything to avoid creating jobs." -- Dave Barry

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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:00:00 LCL
From:         Jose Iguelmar Miranda <miranda@NTIAA.EMBRAPA.ANSP.BR>
Subject:      happy christimas

Falks,

FFFFFFF  EEEEEEE  LL       IIIIIII  ZZZZZZZ
FF       EE       LL          II         Z
FF       EE       LL          II        Z
FFFF     EEEEE    LL          II      ZZZZ
FF       EE       LL          II      Z
FF       EE       LL          II     Z
FF       EEEEEEE  LLLLLLL  IIIIIII  ZZZZZZZ

NN   NN     A     TTTTTTT     A     LL       !!
NNN  NN   AA AA      TT     AA AA   LL       !!
NNN  NN  AA   AA     TT    AA   AA  LL       !!
NNNN NN  AAAAAAA     TT    AAAAAAA  LL       !!
NN NNNN  AA   AA     TT    AA   AA  LL       !!
NN  NNN  AA   AA     TT    AA   AA  LL
NN   NN  AA   AA     TT    AA   AA  LLLLLLL  OO

"O povo que andava em trevas viu uma grande luz, e sobre os que habitavam
na regiao da sombra da morte resplandeceu a luz...  Porque um menino nos
nasceu, um filho se nos deu; e o principado esta sobre os seus ombros; e
o seu nome sera: Maravilhoso, Conselheiro, Deus forte, Pai da eternidade,
Principe da paz." Isaias 9:2,6.

"The people that walked in darkness have seen a great light: they that
dwell in the land of the shadow of death, upon them  hath the light
shined...For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the
government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called
Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The
Prince of Peace. Isaiah 9:2,6.
--
> Jose Iguelmar Miranda * EMBRAPA/NTIA * CX. POSTAL 5010             <
> 13031-Campinas-SP-Brasil * e-mail:  miranda@ntiaa.embrapa.ansp.br  <
>--------------------------------------------------------------------<
> " For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son,  <
>   that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have      <
>   everlasting life." John 3.16                                     <
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:28:55 -0700
From:         Merlyn Paulson <larch@LAMAR.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      WATERSHED DELINEATION ALGORITHMS

This is a request for any information users may have with regard
to GIS watershed delineation algorithms. I am conducting a comparative
study of those that run with ARC/INFO (PC and/or Workstation Version
Six) and GRASS. Algorithms supported by other GISs that run on SUN
sparc with unix or PC compatible 386s or 486s would be welcomed too.

Thanks in advance for any information you might provide.

Merlyn Paulson, Prof.
College of Agricultural Sciences
Colorado State University
E-mail larch@lamar.colostate.edu
Telephone 303.491.7594
Faxphone 303.491.7745
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 08:59:00 PST
From:         "Virginia R. Hetrick" <IARGRAF@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Data Quality Visualization Challenge.

Really neat idea!  Thanks for putting it together.

virginia
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:42:00 EST
From:         "SCHLESINGER, PETER" <i43_ps02@RED.WHOI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: FTP

A little trivial note on uuencode/decode. A colleague of mine in Brazil
wanted to send binary files back and forth to me. As we are both IDRISI
users, I sent him both uuencode/decode and the documentation for these
programs as IDRISI files in ascii-integer file format with instructions
in the comments section for their reformat as well. It appears that whenever
an executable file needs to be sent (could work with any file too), it
simply needs to be renamed to an IDRISI.img file and converted to ascii.
Reconversion on the other end is easy. This is recommended for short files
only, however. This method has been successful to both Brazil and the UK.

Peter Schlesinger
The Woods Hole Research Center
i43_ps02@red.whoi.edu
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:07:00 GMT
From:         Peter Halls <PJH1@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      RE: What is NCGIA Up To Now??

Surely document 90-9.txt from NCGIA (relating, per Duane, to 'behavior problems
in gifted children') is a warning of where to find high IQ muggers!


Happy Christmas!
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 15:03:35 UCR
From:         Lorenzo Jimenez <MASOLANO@UCRVM2.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Intergraph to Arc/Info
              21 Dec 1992 15:10:48 -0800 from <gilla@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>

Hello,

       We are currently working with the Catastral Institute of your country
here in Costa Rica. Mi experience is that Intergraf files (TIFF) can be also
saved in an autocad format which we convert with Arcinfo for PC.

       We succefully convert a image for contour lines (sorry I only know
right now the spanish name: curvas de nivel) but it mantain the numbers and
letters as part of the cover, so we had manually to kill every line and then
glue the lines.

        Hope this help, Lorenzo Jimenez B.
                        Universidad Nacional de Costa Rica
                        Laboratorio de Sistemas de Informacion Geografica
                        Escuela de Ciencias Geograficas
                        JIMENEZB AT UCRVM2.BITNET
                        MASOLANO AT UCRVM2.BITNET
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:40:15 EST
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From:         Rob Parry <rparry@HYDROLAB.ARSUSDA.GOV>
Subject:      Re: FTP

In Message Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:08:01 EST,
  Mark Heinicke <mark@GEOG5.UMD.EDU> writes:

>More on compressed files (re: Jay Morgan) after reading Duane Marble's
>reply to same:  uuencode is used to convert binary file into ASCII file
>that can be sent by mail; uudecode converts back into binary.  An ftp'ed
>file might be ASCII *or* binary.  What you might have is something
>that was first compressed in Unix via "compress"--leaving a "[something].Z"
>file, then "uuencoded" into ASCII form (and would probably have a
>".Z" suffix at discretion of user), in which case it would first have to
>be "uudecoded" and then uncompressed (into into its binary form, if that's
>what it was).  How this is done on PC's I dunno.
>

Pretty much the same, except on a PC, one would use a zipping program
instead of a compress program (unless you wanted to be UNIX compatable)

There are compress programs for the PC & Zip programs for UNIX so it is
possible to be compatable both ways, its your choice.  The nice thing about
zipping is that is can compress more than one file in an archive, whereas
compress cannot.  You will often see Unix files on an ftp site:

    utility.tar.Z

which means all the files with utility have been put together in a single
tar file (giving the .tar extension) and then compressed (giving the .Z)

If you only work with Unix, stick with tar & compress. Get to know them
well - you will use them a lot.

Rob


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        Rob Parry                  rparry@hydrolab.arsusda.gov
        USDA-ARS-Hydrology Lab     Phone: (301) 504-8625
        Beltsville, MD             FAX:   (301) 504-8931
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:11:44 -0500
From:         Jay Morgan <E7G4MOR@TOWSONVX.BITNET>
Subject:      FTP

Thanks to all of you who responded to my message regarding the problems
I was having in PKUNZIPing files downloaded from FTP.  Apparently,  the
problem can be solved by transferring the files  in  binary  format.  I
just assumed that ASCII was the way to download the files.  I have been
successful in PKUNZIPing files transferred in binary mode.  I hope this
may help someone else in the future.

Jay Morgan
Department of Geography and Environmental Planning
Towson State University
Baltimore, Maryland 21204-7097
(410) 830-2964
(410) 830-3482 (FAX)
E7G4MOR@TOWSONVX
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:50:18 U
From:         P Moran <esri!mailgate_esri!p_moran@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Re: Internet Resourses

        Reply to:   RE>Internet Resourses
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:04:18 UCR
From:         Lorenzo Jimenez <MASOLANO@UCRVM2.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Convert files from PC ARC/INFO to SUN ARC/INFO or vice versa
              20 Dec 1992 20:34:22 MET from <georg@WIGEO.WU-WIEN.AC.AT>

Hello, I recently are working with Arc Info 6.1 for Sun, but I had worked
about 3 years with PCARC/INFO and I can tell you my way to transfer files.

   1. UNGEN covert to an ascii files. The covers with lines .lin, the points
      with .poi and labels with .lab. (This is for the graphical data)
   2. With TABLES then:
      Select the cover info like the .pat or .aat and transfer to an ascii
      file with &openw command, list the features you need except area,
      perimeter, ids, and things the ARCINFO can do himself. latter with
      the command JOINITEM you can integrate the database. Finally with an
      &closew command you have the database.
   3. Copy the ascii files to a 1.4 floppy and copy to the workstation.
   4. Use GENERATE to get the graphical information again in ARCINFO format
      the use TABLES to create a database (command DEFINE), and the use
      JOINITEM to redo the database inside the cover.

You can do this procedure backwards. And if you think is too complex maybe, but
it can be done right way with some .sml files for the PC and .amd (not very
sure) with the Workstation and you can automatate the convert.

I can help you if you think it is too complex. Only give me the names of the ma
ps, the data items (with type, size), and I can create you the PC SML files.

        Lorenzo Jimenez Briceno
        Laboratorio de Sistemas de Informacion Geografica
        Escuela de Ciencias Geograficas
        Universidad Nacional de Costa Rica

        MASOLANO AT UCRVM2.BITNET   or also
        JIMENEZB AT UCRVM2.BITNET
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:57:06 CST
From:         Alan Rea <gwdokokl!ahrea@MAILHOST.ECN.UOKNOR.EDU>
Subject: Re: HELP!! FTP?

>I am trying to FTP a file from another machine.  It is a GIF file.
>Each time I get it to my PC all I get is garbage.  We transfered the
>file in BINARY and then downloaded it to the PC via KERMIT.  Please
>help.
>
>                                        Chris Wade
>                                        US Forest Service
>                                        Internet: to-wade@fsl.orst.edu

Did you do a BINARY transfer with KERMIT, too?  There are several
versions of KERMIT out there, some of which are pretty unreliable.  (I
have had some problems with C-KERMIT, both on a SUN and on a PC running
MINIX).  The PC version 3.00 of KERMIT is pretty good, and allows you
to explicitly specify binary or ascii mode for transfers (set file type
bin).  Older versions tried to automatically determine whether the file
was binary or ascii, and sometimes guessed  wrong.  If you're running
an older version of MS-KERMIT, you might try getting a newer one for
your PC.  It's around for ftp lots of places, Columbia  University is
the official source.  (Of course, you have to get the KERMIT program
onto your PC first, in binary mode, which can turn into a
chicken-and-egg problem.  I'm sure you can find KERMIT on a floppy
somewhere on campus -- I got my MS at OSU Ag. Engineering, which is now
"Bioresource" Engineering, you could ask Bob in the Dept shop -- or you
could try the Computer Science Dept.)

Good luck.





Alan Rea, Hydrologist         *    ahrea@csdokokl.cr.usgs.gov (USE THIS ONE!)
U.S. Geological Survey        * "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, USA  *  who falsely believe they are free" -- Goethe
From: cogs1@slate.mines.colorado.edu (THOEN WILLIAM )
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: CIA World Map
Date: 30 Dec 92 05:11:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

jwright@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU (Geoffrey Wright) writes:
: I would like to use one of the CIA World Data Bank II map files that I
: have gotten from an FTP site.  I am not sure if it can be imported into
: other GIS packages or if it can only be used with VPlot.  The file
: appears in the following format:

<binary junk deleted>

: Does this mean that it is a compressed binary file?  What do I have to do
: to use it??  Thank you for any assistance.

Jef, if that is the 15 Mb CIA file, then it is indeed in a binary format
and needs to be converted before it will work with any GIS.  It's a clever
job, too, but if you can't program in C, you're going to be a bit
frustrated.  If you can read C, look at the file 'domap.c' that comes with
it and substitute your own output for the calls to VPLOT.  It took me about
a half day to get something working to translate this file to ASCII
lat/long coordinates, but I fiddled with it a lot longer than that to add
my own graphics.  Even so, I still ended up with a glitch that translated
half of South America into the Atlantic.  The point that pooched it was
right on the equator, but I don't know if it's my software or the data
itself that has a problem with an exact zero. 

Good luck (it's a worthwhile file, but the Digital Chart of the World looks
even better... and has it's own Hell of a data format to crack! :-)

- Bill Thoen
  cogs1@slate.mines.colorado.edu
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From: westk@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Ken West)
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Subject: sorry: Jourdan arc theorem references?
Date: 30 Dec 1992 01:05:10 GMT
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I am looking for the original references (and others) to the use of the
Jourdan arc theorem for finding point-in-polygon.  I am using it in a program
to convert pc-Idrisi files to grass and need some more background information.

please email, thanks in advance.

sorry about the previous post!

ken

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From: rariss@WX.GTEGSC.COM (Rushdi Ariss)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: HELP!! FTP?
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:10:10 GMT
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        Hi Chris,

        I'm not exactly sure what your problem may be, but I'm willing to help.
I've transfered GIFs, so there is no real magic to it.  You set your image to
binary, as you stated, then get the image.  If the image has been uuencoded,
 then you need to uudecode it.  You can tell if it is encoded by looking at the
file with a text editor.
        Each line should be approximately the same length, with (I recall)
an M in front.  If your file is encoded, let me know or you can get a good
uudecoder from SIMTEL.

        Best of luck and Happy Holidays!

        Rushdi A. Ariss
        rariss@wx.gtegsc.com
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:14:28 CST
From:         MFLTL@ECNUXA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Number 9 Video card
              23,

It is one thing to have a video board that outputs at different resolutions
and it is another thing to have a monitor that accepts the signals.  The
vertical sync frequency of the 8514/A monitor is 87 Hz interlaced (actual
frame rate is 43.5 Hz).  If you don't have a monitor that can accept this
frequency, I believe you can have problems.  Win Rosch in his PC Upgrade
Bible says "When buying a monitor, the scanning fequency rule is simple.
The frequencies generated by the display adapter in your PC must either
match those at which your monitor id designed to operate or they must be
within the range accepted by your multiscanning monitor."

Regards

Larry Lewis                          BITNET:   mfltl@ecnuxa.bitnet
Geography Department                 INTERNET: mfltl@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Western Illinois University
Macomb, IL 61455
Tel (309) 298-1764
    (309) 298-1648
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:56:03 EST
From:         Mark Heinicke <mark@GEOG5.UMD.EDU>
Subject: Re: FTP

> Can someone tell me what are the proper programs to use to unzip files from
> FTP sites.  I have tried PKUNZIP to unzip several files, but  I  get  error
> messages, and PKZIPFIX does not correct the problem.  Does anyone have  any
> suggestions?  Thanks!

-------------------------

I'm thinking PKUNZIP is a PC utility-?  Things I've gotten from anon
ftp sites are uncompressable with SunOS "uncompress" or "zcat" (if it's
compressed to begin with); the clue is ".Z" suffix.  I assumed everything
was Unix-based unless otherwise specified.  But apparently these
are IBM-type compressions you're talking about?

Mark Heinicke
Dept. of Geography
University of Maryland at College Park
mark@geog5.umd.edu
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Subject:      Re: holidays
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From:         Alan Fiermonte <ABZX@CORNELLA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: GIS course for Info Sys Students

Reposting...per request.

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Areas of use in business world...current and potential?

1. Real estate site selection and property development (e.g. relocation)
2. Business transaction tracking (e.g. credit card use)
3. Demographics analysis and strategic marketing (e.g. target marketing)
4. Routing and dispatching (e.g. transport and delivery)
5. Travel planning and management (e.g. sales)
6. Environmental planning and management (e.g. Site planning)
7. Mapping/Cartography (i.e. creating new and varied maps for sale!!!!!)
8. Modelling and forecasting (e.g. economic)
9. Leisure, recreation and tourism planning (e.g. trip planning/mapping)
10.  Virtual reality and simulation (e.g. architecture and landscape design)
11.  Image and document georeferencing (e.g. mapped videos/video mapping?)

I can't think of any more right now.


Alan Fiermonte