HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: brance@outrider.Kodak.COM (Michael Branciforte)
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: 'boggans and such
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:05:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

-- 
Born and raised in WNY (Wyoming and Genesee counties, mostly).  We called 
"those knitted caps that go on your head" 'boggans or toboggans (which for me 
was very confusing because we also slid down hills on "the long wooden thing
with the curled-up front" ... which is also a toboggan).  We also called them
caps or wool caps, and then there was always just plain old "hats" (which we
implicitly distinguished from summer "caps/hats" - which means "baseball-style"
caps/hats - because it was obviously winter).  Hats are also those things that
have a brim all-the-way-'round and are usually made out of felt ... although
not always; and they are definitely not of the "cowboy-style" (cowboy hats are
always (?) refered to as "cowboy hats").

Carbonated soft drinks are generally refered to as POP; although I have heard
soda, and just a plain old "drink".  We did put peanuts in our "cokes" (which 
up until PEPSI included all other cola-flavored "drinks") but I think we learned
it at a Patsy Cline concert at the Silver Lake Drive-In (yes I'm THAT old).
Actually we saw her there in about '57 (when I was four).

Lastly, if you're wondering what the hell a "damn yankee" is doing replying to 
this newgroup (and even if you're not :-)), I spent the best years of my life 
so far ('70 - '81) in the Western Carolina's and East Tennessee.  Would love
to come back, but had to go where the work took me.  


Still playin' bluegrass on the doghouse,
Mike Branciforte   

Technical information management is the key to concurrent engineering,
time-based competitiveness, higher quality, and lower costs.

email brance@music.Kodak.com
From: ljhr@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: Re: Co-cola, Peanuts & Pranks
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:47:26 -0500

My aunt, who has spent her entire life in southwestern Pennsylvania, told me of
a similar trick that she and her friends used to pull when they were kids. 
Instead of a fish hook, they used a nail and pushed it in tight between the
window sash and sill.  The string was stretched and they plucked it, making the
window vibrate and rattle.  They called it 'tick-tacking.'
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: Melungeon
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:19:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I know something about this sort of person who may be descendants
of the ill-fated Croatan colony. Any one know more about them
and/or the Lumbees? References?
-- 
Ted....
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From: kent@cs.uwp.edu (Karen Kent)
Subject: Re: hats and carbonated beverages
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:57:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.055103.18591@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> jbjenkin@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Jason B. Jenkins) writes:
>
>On a related subject, that has probably been discussed before, what do you
>use to generically refer to carbonated cola soft drinks?  (pop, coke,
>soda, etc?)

I am from Wheeling, West Virginia.  We call knitted hats "toboggans",
and I believe that people from southwestern Pennsylvania, near Pittsburgh,
also call them toboggans.  And, of course, we call a can of Pepsi a
can of POP, unlike most of the rest of the world, it seems.  I now live
in Wisconsin, and when I used to ask for "pop", people looked at me VERY
strangely.  Now it seems that I've been midwesternized, because when I'm
back in West Virginia, I ask for "soda" and get the same strange looks!

By the way, if anybody reading this is from the Wheeling area, PLEASE
send me mail!  I haven't found anybody on the net yet from those parts....

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From: ljhr@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: <None>
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:10:55 -0500

I grew up in Beaver County, PA.  We always called carbonated soft drinks POP. 
When I was at Penn State, Main Campus, people from other parts of the state
called these drinks SODA.  Around Pittsburgh a soda was similar to what other
folks call a float, i.e., ice cream in a glass of pop.

I lived in Alabama for 5 years, and friends there used to ask me if I wanted a
'co-cola' and when I answered 'yes' they would ask, 'What flavor?'

Ah.
From: jrblack@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Black)
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: Re: hats and carbonated beverages
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:40:42 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
 writes:


     Also, if anyone can remember from their 8th grade West Virginia History
class....  The split up of Virginia was due more to the Eastern part of the
state dictating policy throughout the state.  The Morgans were not too
impressed!
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From: csjan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jan Faires)
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: Re: Co-cola, Peanuts & Pranks
Date: 25 Jan 1993 11:27:53 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
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This is the first time I ever knew of *ANYONE* else knowing that
prank with the thread and the resin!!  My father taught me that one,
he seemed to think it was really funny -- none of my friends here
in Central Illinois had ever heard of it, thought it was pretty
stupid.  What did they know?  =-)

We put peanuts in root beer when we were kids.  We also made snow
ice cream and made "clompers" (kinda like stilts) from empty big
juice cans (like vegetable juice comes in) and mom's old nylons.
We punched holes near the bottom of the cans, tied the nylons thru
those holes so they made handles, then walked with our feet on the
cans, lifting the cans with each step by pulling up on the nylons.
Made a great sound on the sidewalks!
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From: raxter@med.unc.edu (Cynthia Raxter)
Subject: Re: Nice Drive
Keywords: crosses nationwide "Get right with God"
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:24:13 GMT

>
>>There are some in western North Carolina. I know of at least one set of
>>the three crosses in Transylvania County near the South Carolina border.
>>I think there is another set near Hendersonville, NC. They've been there
>>several years (at least 4). I read a newspaper article about the guy who
>>was responsible for placing the crosses there but I can't recall his name.
>>Anyway they were not put there by the KKK.
>
>>-Anita

Hi, 

The crosses Anita mentions are in my uncle's corn field.  He is a
Church of God preacher, but I don't know if he had them put up or if
someone did it with his permission. (And yes, there are matching crosses
on Highway 64 between Hendersonville and Brevard, NC.) I'll check with
Uncle Pete next time I get home to find the source of the mystery crosses.

Cindy
From: SMCMILLN@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: Damn Yankees and Moon Pies
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:53:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University

No offense was meant by any of my previous postings to any "damn
yankees" out there. Some of the best times of my life were spent
hiking the Georgia end of the Trail with an old friend of the
family from Maine. He was a self proclaimed "damn yankee" and
never failed to keep us entertained sitting around the campfire
yakkin' about "yankee ingeniuety".Yeah, I know, sounds like I'm
about to break into a verse of "Rocky Mountain High". He died
several years back, and out of all the people I've seen go, I
really hated to see him off.
Anyway, as far as the question about moon-pies and scooter pies,
I think it's one of those haphazard regional things like Hardees
or Whitecastle. I got what I identified as a moon pie out of the
vending machine the other day. One of my coworkers identified it
as a scooter pie. Looking on the label, sure enough, she was right.
She said thats what they always had in Arizona. In Georgia I never
saw a Scooter Pie, just Moon Pies.
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: Re: "boggan" and "3 crosses" was "knitted cap" and "nice drive" 
From: judy_k@cho006.cho.ge.com
Date: 18 Jan 93 09:54:26 EDT
Organization: GE Fanuc Automation, North America

In article <C0t99C.GJx@tss.com>, burke@tss.com (Jim Burke) writes:
> In article <AHANSFOR.93Jan13130513@bigwpi.wpi.edu>, ahansfor@bigwpi.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford) writes:
> 
> |> A friend of mine from Tennessee put on his winter cap and asked
> |> everyone in the room what he had on his head.
> |> ...
> 
> Yes, except it was always pronounced "toe-boggan" and sometimes was
> just shortened to "boggan" as in "Don't forget to wear your 'boggan".
> 
> -- 
> ***********************************************************************
>  Jim Burke	"Life is uncertain - eat dessert first!"
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>  phone:(415) 617-2432			... uunet!tekbspa!burke

Hey! How long has this newsgroup been here? (from a Charleston "boggan-wearing"
native :)

In article <1993Jan13.165355.2044@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu> ljhr@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu write
s:
>>I just got a message today wherein the correspondent said that the three
>>crosses that are common in West Virginia (and which are spreading into
>>neighboring states) are the work of the KKK.  I thought that these were put up
>>by the Primitive Baptist Church, or some other denomination. Does anybody have
>>any definite knowledge about these crosses?
>
>Chalk that one up to urban legand, I guess.
>
>Actually the crosses were originally put up and funded by a fellow named Jim 
>Coffindaffer.  If I remember correctly, he was a WV boy who made good, became a
>self made millionaire in some business or another (not coal, some type of 
>manafacturing, maybe furniture) and got borned again.  He decided to decorate 
>the hills with the crosses, sold his business, and devotes a great deal of his 
>time and money to making and erecting the crosses.
>
>That is the true story--seen it in the Charleston paper a while back.
>
>Later--
>PDunn

Mr. Coffindaffer is/was? in my mother's Sunday School class (United Methodist 
in Charleston). I heard he was the person behind the three crosses (which are
also found in many places in Virginia.)

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Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
From: SMCMILLN@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU
Subject: Co-cola, Peanuts & Pranks
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:57:03 GMT

Anybody is welcome to correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm seeing
a trend in that Co-cola seems more generally, a usage applied
in the Deep South. Pop seems to get a lot of use in the Upper
South. Salt peanuts and coke seems to be an overall southern
thing. But then again, this isn't a very broad sample group.
Here's a new one! My daddy grew up on the Mississippi Delta.
One of his favorite pranks to play was to hook a piece of
string to someones house with a nail; stretch the string tight
and run a piece of resin up and down the string. Apparently, it
would send the resulting noise, something like a ghostly moan,
through the whole house, scaring the hell out of all inside. I
later heard the same story from a man who grew up in Savanah, GA
about the same time period. Has anyone else ever heard this? I've
always wanted to know just how widespread it was.
                                    Scott McMIllan
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
From: cbrooks@ms.uky.edu (Clayton Brooks)
Subject: Re: hats and carbonated beverages
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:57:46 GMT

>In article <1993Jan22.055103.18591@liberty.uc.wlu.edu> jbjenkin@liberty.uc.wlu.edu (Jason B. Jenkins) writes:
>>
>>On a related subject, that has probably been discussed before, what do you
>>use to generically refer to carbonated cola soft drinks?  (pop, coke,
>>soda, etc?)

I mostly heard soda pop (pronounced sodiepop).
My immediate family always drank Coke so I grew up *saying* coke.

From Huntington with deep roots in Logan and Kanawha counties.
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From: buckley@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BUCKLEY  CHARLES RAY)
Subject: Re: hats and carbonated beverages
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:03:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.192832.3298@mlb.semi.harris.com> luoni@jasper.mlb.semi.harris.com (Perry Luoni) writes:
>In article <25JAN199312293827@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> afallen@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (E. Allen Arrington) writes:
>>> Has anybody besides me ever heard of
>>>putting salted peanuts in a bottle of coke? Maybe it's just a
>>>north Gerogia thing.
>>>                                   Scott McMillan
>>
>>Down home (southern W.Va, Wyoning Co.) we call pop...pop ;-)  And yes, I 
>>always put peanuts in my Coke!!!!  These poor yankees don't know what's 
>                                               ^^^^^^^
>>good.  I have even managed to convert my wife (native of Pittsburgh Pa.) 
>>into a coke and peanuts lover.
>So what is exactly the definition of a yankee?  I mean all of these WV people
>talking as if they aren't yankees.   WV fought with the North during the
>Civil War so that would make them (us, I'm from St. Albans WV) yankees 
>wouldn't it.  Anyway Civil War seems like an oxymoron to me, how can
>a war be civil?  And when southerners say that the south is going to
>do it again what does that mean? Lose?

WV like most border states fought for both sides in the civil war. A
rough north/south border would be along RT 50. The Kanawha Valley was the
major staging area for the South. I read a history book about Wood County
in the civil war a few years ago which was very interesting as Parkersburg
was northern but almost everyplace south of it except Belleville and Lubeck
were southern.

In the Air Force there was a joke that there were 6 independant countries
within the United States: Southern California, Texas, New York City, Miami,
Tennesse, and West Virginia

I for one do not consider myself a northerner. The Civil War was a complex
affair where the border states fought for many reasons. It might be better
argued that West Virginia fought against Virginia.
.
>
>


-- 
Charles Buckley    buckley@ucsu.colorado.edu

Just another West Virginia exile in the land of make believe.
From: afallen@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (E. Allen Arrington)
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: Re: hats and carbonated beverages
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:29:00 GMT
Organization: 1st Kentucky Cavalry Co. C
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

> Has anybody besides me ever heard of
>putting salted peanuts in a bottle of coke? Maybe it's just a
>north Gerogia thing.
>                                   Scott McMillan

Down home (southern W.Va, Wyoning Co.) we call pop...pop ;-)  And yes, I 
always put peanuts in my Coke!!!!  These poor yankees don't know what's 
good.  I have even managed to convert my wife (native of Pittsburgh Pa.) 
into a coke and peanuts lover.

E. Allen Arrington  
        Trooper, 1st Kentucky Cavalry, Co. C 
        Mounted Memorial Unit 
and Mason (a darnh good horse)                
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From: jrblack@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James R Black)
Subject: Re: hats and carbonated beverages
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:38:17 GMT

>So what is exactly the definition of a yankee?  I mean all of these WV people
>talking as if they aren't yankees.   WV fought with the North during the
>Civil War so that would make them (us, I'm from St. Albans WV) yankees
>wouldn't it.

     It's strange, but people from Southern West Virginia are convinced
they are southerner's.  Their college of choice is Virginia Tech, they
go to Charlottesville for medical treatment and shopping in North Carolina
is a weekend retreat.  Oh yeah, we/they sure do talk like 'em.
Also, Beckley is rougly the same latitude as Norfolk.
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From: phart@heineken.tuc.NRAO.EDU (Paul O. Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.appalachian
Subject: Re: Soft Drinks (Was RE: name of knitted winter cap)
Date: 23 Jan 93 11:20:53 GMT
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory

Quoted from jbjenkin@liberty.uc.wlu.edu in article 987:
->
->On a related subject, that has probably been discussed before, what do you
->use to generically refer to carbonated cola soft drinks?  (pop, coke,
->soda, etc?)
->

Well, in my little hometown (Whitesburg, Ky.) we used to call "soda"
dope.  We also used to put one of those small sacks of Planters
peanuts in our dope.  Things are sure different here in Arizon.  8^(


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From: H5FK@UNB.CA (H5FK)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: SKATEBOARDING IS RAD
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:37:09 GMT
Organization: The University of New Brunswick

HELLO!  i like to skate but i can only do it whenever my damned city
doesn't think it is a popsicle, and that is usually four months out
of the year.  you know what?.....i hate popsicles!!  delaney / / /
///// ////// / / ///// ////// / / / // / / / / / / ///// ////// / /
/ // ///// ////// / / / / // / / / / i'm a burper
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: RE: DC places to skate
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:50:47 GMT

In article <21JAN93.19594134@vax.clarku.edu> mropp@vax.clarku.edu writes:
> THis is laura.  I know what you mean. Personally, I only like to skate 
> around my good friends and i don't enjoy skating around other people.  
> Maybe that's couase I don't know many trix but I can hold my own.  I would 
> much rather skate by myself above all.

Laura...don't go there...don't go there...sqwaaawk...
From: HCOA@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (HCOA)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: Possible Snowboarders?
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:02:09 GMT
Organization: McGill University

This is just a short note to see if anybody who posts here snowboards
would be interested in talking 'bout it. From sliding rail to jibbin
 stumps to carving turns on a race board.
                                       JamesM.
                               at:     HCOA@musicb.mcgill.ca
                               or:     B7S9@musicb.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: mropp@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: DC places to skate
Organization: Clark University
Date: 21 JAN 93 19:59:41 GMT

THis is laura.  I know what you mean. Personally, I only like to skate around my good friends and i don't enjoy skating around other people.  Maybe that's couase I don't know many trix but I can hold my own.  I would much rather skate by myself above all.
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: H5FK000 <H5FK@UNB.CA>
Subject: looking to chat?
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:07:22 GMT

  any one out there who is wanting to chat, drop me a message.
nothing for me to do until my province thaws out!  please, i'm
begging you, it's either this or studying.  there must be someone
out there who is willing to save me with stories of sunny days and
wheels on pave?

Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: s14661ez@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: 900's
Reply-To: s14661ez@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:54:16 GMT

Yeah I think Danny Way successfully did one about 2 years ago.
From: william@otago.ac.nz (William van der Vliet.)
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
Subject: RE: Love Child Review
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:17:52 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

I think the Love Child Video is pretty cool. A lot of new names and talent.
The 101 Video (I'm not sure if it's 'THE' new video, it comes in a Gary Player
golf packet) also is very good. (a bit redneck and short though)
Eric Koston, Kris Markovitch, and Peterson skate good. Natas is not in it.
They (Koston & Markovitch) probably skate better in the Union Video.
The New Deal Video is longer and has some good new tricks.

I've just bought a new video player and T.V. and we just got about six new
videos. Everyone has been up at my place for about a week solid. I'm sick
of videos and have no food left. 

Anyone know anything about the new Blind video or the Alien Workshop one.

William
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: goetzj@carn20.alleg.edu (Justin Goetz)
Subject: Love Child review
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:13:40 GMT

World Industries has a video called Love Child. Their whole team is made  
up of small(15 yrs old or less,under 4 feet tall) Asian children who skate  
better than a lot of people. The skating is mostly flatground , EMB and  
low top addidas. Not to much handrail or gap action. It's not that bad it  
just isn't the best I've seen. The new Birdhouse videos should blow it  
away and so should the New Deal video when they finally come out.The  
weather sucks cause it is wet and snowy( I know I shouldn't complain  
because I live in the east and I should be used to this kind of thing but  
still it sucks). One final note , if you can't get and skate for along  
time don't watch videos cause it will only depress you even more.

				Justin
Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: mhartman@ais.org (Mark Hartman)
Subject: Re: ron gordon
Organization: UMCC
	I thing your posting was not needed the way you posted it, and
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:35:23 GMT

calling all us skaters cocksuckers really wasn't needed.  

Newsgroups: alt.skate-board
From: joshr@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Joshua Rabinowitz-Summer-91)
Subject: Re: Love Child review
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:12:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.001340.26388@pellns.alleg.edu> goetzj@carn20.alleg.edu (Justin Goetz) writes:
>One final note , if you can't get and skate for along  
>time don't watch videos cause it will only depress you even more.
>
>				Justin

Ditto.


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