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From: pd1@acpub.duke.edu (Pompiliu  Donescu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Subscibe
Date: 23 Nov 1992 16:56:51 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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If I want to get news about european soccer where should I have to send e-mail?
How can I subscribe ?

Thanks, in advance
  Pompiliu
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:25:10 -0500 
From: "John J. Lucena" <lucena+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: TV: Scotland-Italy


I know that in the San Fransico Bay area RAI broadcasts
on channel 26 KTSF. The Scotland-Italy game will be on at 4:30PST
Wed Nov 18.

From what I remember when I am visiting my folks in New York,
RAI broadcasts on Channel 25 WNYC in New York City Metro Area.
I believe that the game can be seen on this channel at 2:30EST
Wed Nov 18.

As for Tennessee and other locations I have no clues.

Hope this helps someone...
-lucena
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Subject: Re: Topical comments
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:26:34 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

eftv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (G C Stewart) writes:

>Just thought I'd throw in my tuppence worth, while I take a tea break.

[...]

>2. Scotland v England (was Rangers v Leeds)
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I'm targetting the Rangers'
>fans here and their recent comments on the English media. 

Guess that must be me. Seems Gerry thinks I've suddenly switched from being
a St. Mirren fan to a Rangers one...oh well!!

>I can only
>laugh at this sudden chip on the shoulder from supporters of a side
>who only 2 years ago were regularly turning out sides with up to 6
>Englishmen in it. Terry Butcher would not approve of this Anglophobia!
>Yes the English press generally backed, Leeds United, but up until their
>tie with Rangers, they had every reason to believe that English football
>was of a much higher standard. Since the English clubs have returned to
>European football they have performed, not spectacularly, but a damn
>sight better than the miserable efforts by our clubs! 

All of which makes their downfall more spectacular and the English media a 
laughing stock.

>               I personally don't think there is much difference in the
>relative standards - they're both shockingly poor at the moment and
>technically aren't on the same planet as the domestic leagues in Italy,
>Germany, France, Netherlands, Spain or Portugal. Rangers victory tells
>me nothing that I didn't already know and the petty nationalism of some
>of the Scottish postings verges on the xenophobic.

Are you refering to me and my critism of bias in the media? It's got absolutly
nothing what-so-ever to do with nationalism. It's got everything to do with
supposedly British media pushing English orientated topics to the exclusion
of all else.


Dave

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From: veit@Unify.com (Veit Irtenkauf)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Inter - Stuttgart friendly
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:37:55 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation (Sacramento)

Does anyone know anything about the friendly game between Inter and
Stuttgart (I think part of the Sammer deal)?  I heard the score was
5-0 for Stuttgart.  This would be unbelievable.  Did Inter send its
second team?


-- Veit


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From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: Penalty shootout queries
Date: 19 Nov 1992 07:55:35 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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#1. No, the order of the kickers is not given to the referee prior to the 
actual kicker going to take the kick. (All different kickers, etc...)

#2. FIFA clarified that when the natural motion of the ball had ceased, the 
PK was over. Since the ball you mentioned was in it's natural motion 
(bouncing around) and was not kicked by the kicker a second time, but rather 
deflected off the keeper, the goal stands.

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
From: eftv20@castle.ed.ac.uk (G C Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Subject: Re: Topical comments
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:11:31 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University


    A real can of worms I've opened here. I appreciate the points made
by James and Wacko Jacko, but I was really wanting to gauge their
reactions to what Jim McLean said last week, but both seem to be
reacting more to what I think. Now as Cloughie said last week football
is all about opinions and it makes for lively entertainment for myself
and the Huns to drag each other down into a frothy lather. However I'd
wager that Jolly Jim knows a fair bit more about the game than any of
the three of us (put together) and now that his opinion is so contrary 
to those of the Rangers posters, I'm really far more interested to see
how they react to him rather than myself. If I say "black", you boys
say "white" - it's as predictable and unless we start getting abusive
it's a little boring to others. However Jolly Jim has put his oar in
with a little dark grey and that was not expected (I'll drink to his
health anyway).
    True, I cannot hide from the statistics. Rangers are on a great run,
but the fact that they may be about to win 5 in a row is less
significant, as I believe that Celtc have only been a better side since
the turn of the year. But it would be extremely narrow minded of me to
deny that Rangers are anything other than a very good team - I just 
happen to think that Celtic are also very good. The basis of James' and
Wacko's arguments is in stats alone though and that canno give a
representative picture. Football is almost unique in that there are
infinitely many ways with which a match can end with say a 1-0 or 1-1
scoreline and both of you have neglected to discuss the playing styles,
and that's almost on a par with saying Portugal were lucky to take a 
point from Scotland last month.
    And on the point that only two Celtic players would get into the
current - would they two by any chance be Gordon Marshall and Gary
Gillespie ?  :-)))))
    My own opnion on football these days is that the teams do not always
win and indeed it seems to be more difficult for attack minded and non
physical sides (as Celtic are) to win. Scottish sides are particularly
defensive these days and thuggery is allowed to go unpunished. Until the
coaches themselves start playing the game in the spirit with which it
should be played, this situation will continue - and will chase the
punters off the terraces.
    Finally I agree that Rangers are a little short from competing with
the likes of Marseille. If the try on a technical level, they will be
destroyed, but Rangers will play to their physical and fitness strengths
and I don't think they will lose next. I'd like to see Marseille go 
through as they are stylish and the longer Rangers go in the tournament
the worse they will be to watch. I think Rangers will score 4 or 5
points in their section.

             Gerry Stewart
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From: skfong@cuse1.se.cuhk.hk (Fong Siu Kit)
Subject: FIFA World Indoor Championship: Results on 23th Nov
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:47:59 GMT

Here are the results of the first day of the 2nd stage competition in
Hong Kong:

Group E:	Brazil - USA		2:2	(HT 0:1)
		Holland - Argentina	4:1	(HT 0:0)

Group F:	Iran - Poland		2:0	(HT 0:0)
		Spain - Belgium 	5:3	(HT 1:1)

Once again Iran made another miracle and needs just one more win to
secure a place in the semi-finals.  According to the coach of the team,
they had played only three international matches before the final rounds
of this competition.

Although Argentina won all the three games in Group A, their performance
was not inspiring.  This time they met a real good team Holland and they
could not avoid a defeat.  On the other hand, Holland seems to be a slow
starter.  They only managed to finish second in Group B with much
difficulty.  However, they seem to be alive again by beating Argentina
easily last night.

The Brazilians finnaly met some oppostition on their road to retain
their championship.  They were down 0:1 in most of the time against the
Americans.  Although they managed to lead 2:1 in the second half, they
failed to keep the long run of victories in the competition.
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From: harin@iti.gov.sg (Harinderpal Singh)
Subject: Re: Coca cola cup?
Originator: harin@heidi.iti.gov.sg
Reply-To: harin@iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute National Computer Board
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:46:29 GMT


>, ci580@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael J. Schofield) writes:
|> 
|> Weren't the replays of the league cup played this week - I've not seen
|> any results posted, nor the next round draw. Can anyone help with info?
|> 

Sure thing Michael, here are the replay results and the 4th round draw.

First named team is the home team :

3rd Round (posponed game)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Leeds United       1-2     Oldham


3rd Round (Replays)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Wimbledon          0-1     Everton
Scarborough        2-1     Plymouth
Liverpool          3-0     Sheffield United


3rd Round (yet to replay)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

1st Dec		Arsenal - Derby County


4th Round draw
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Liverpool            C Palace
Scarborough          Derby/Arsenal
Cambridge            Oldham
Everton              Chelsea
Sheffield Wed        QPR
Nottm Forest         Tottenham
Aston Villa          Ipswich
Blackburn            Watford



Premier League Teams eliminated so far
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

Coventry City
Middlesbrough

Manchester United
Norwich City
Manchester City
Southampton
Wimbledon
Leeds United
Sheffield United


Cheers,
	Harin
	~~~~~
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Subject: Re: European WC 94 results and tables 19th Nov.
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:09:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.094644.6455@dxcern.cern.ch> michal@vsnmc1.cern.ch (Michal Szleper) writes:
>Louis Kossen writes:
>>>
>>>            P  W  D  L  F  A  Pts
>>>Norway......4  3  1  0 15  2  7
>>>England.....2  1  1  0  5  1  3
>>>Poland......2  1  1  0  3  2  3
>>>Turkey......3  1  0  2  4  6  2
>>>Holland.....2  0  1  1  3  4  1
>>>San Marino..3  0  0  3  1  16 0
>>
>>Holland is 1 point ahead of San Marino and SM has played one more game.
>>No trouble at all for the Dutch team.
>>
>>Holland and San Marino for the WC 94.
>
>But Louis, the TWO FIRST teams are the ones which advance to WC'94,
>not the two last!!  :-)

Hmm I have mistaken the idea behind this qualification. I thought we
did very well against Norway but we very unlucky against Poland and we
did won one point. In what kind of world are we living in?

Louis Kossen
From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: FIFA WORLD INDOOR CUP
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:55:04 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 >...aren't these guys MISL and MSL players?

Yes, only Clavijo and Agoos have played for Bora's National team
squad, and of the two, only Clavijo (who is at least 35 years old)
has had any serious playing time when the European-based players
return to the squad. Agoos is in his early 20s and quite a ways down
on Bora's depth chart.

Chris

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From: waddlech@wam.umd.edu (Chris Waddle)
Subject: Re: FIFA WORLD INDOOR CUP
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:43:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.133032.28572@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa) writes:
>Does anyone know anything about a World Indoor Cup being played at the
>present time.  A U.S. Newspaper said the U.S. beat Russia 8-3, yesterday!
>Please post more information on this World Indoor Cup!  Thanks!
>
>Miguel
>
>

It`s being played in Hong Kong. I think that there are about 8 teams
in this tournament, and the US and Costa Rica represent CONCACAF
after qualifying.

-Dave
From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Greek First Division results - Round 10
Keywords: games played 21/22 Nov
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:50:18 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Round 10 (21/22 Nov)
====================
Apollon Athens     - Kalamaria      2-0
Doksa Drama        - Panahaiki      2-1 
PAOK Thessaloniki  - Korinthos      3-1
Athinaikos         - OFI Heraklion  1-2
Panathinaikos      - AEK Athens     1-1
Aris Thessaloniki  - Pierikos       2-1
Ionikos Nikea      - Iraklis Thes.  4-1
Olympiakos Pireaus - Larisa         2-1
Edessaikos         - Skoda Ksanthi  3-1


Table (after 10 games, W = 3pts  D = 1pt  L = 0pts)
===================================================
                     Points   W-D-L        Goals
1.  AEK               26      8-2-0        23 - 9
--------------------------------------------------
2.  OLYMPIAKOS        23      7-2-1        20 - 6
3.  PANATHINAIKOS     21      6-3-1        20 - 6
--------------------------------------------------
4.  PAOK              19      6-1-3        19 - 11
5.  OFI               19      6-1-3        18 - 8
6.  ARIS              17      5-2-3        14 - 11
7.  IRAKLIS           16      5-1-4        16 - 15
8.  LARISA            14      4-2-4         9 - 10
9.  PANAHAIKI         13      4-1-5        16 - 17
10. KSANTHI           13      4-1-5        10 - 20
11. APOLLON ATHENS    13      4-1-5        10 - 16
12. DOKSA DRAMA       12      3-3-4        14 - 16
13. IONIKOS NIKEA      9      2-3-5        11 - 15
14. EDESSAIKOS         9      2-3-5        14 - 22
15. ATHINAIKOS         8      1-5-4         8 - 15
--------------------------------------------------
16. PIERIKOS           7      1-4-5        10 - 15
17. KORINTHOS          6      1-3-6         7 - 20
18. KALAMARIA          4      0-4-6         5 - 17


Next week (28-29 Nov)
---------------------
Kalamaria   - Panahaiki                  
Korinthos   - Apollon Athens
Pierikos    - Athinaikos 
OFI         - Doksa
AEK         - PAOK 
Iraklis     - Panathinaikos
Larisa      - Aris
Edessaikos  - Ionikos
Ksanthi     - Olympiakos
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cs911030@ariel.yorku.ca (STAVROS TSOKOS)
Subject: ONE-NIL
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:55:51 GMT

Has anyone played this football management game by WIZARD GAME of
SCOTLAND.  Amazing pseudo-club operations, great league and statistical
organization, display game with real-life situations, subbing, injuries,
penalties, offsides, etc...  

What's your opinion of the game?

Steve

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From:  (Richard Moores)
Subject: Re: Tropical comments
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer,eduni.football
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:46:56 GMT

In article <Bxv9H7.73n@apollo.hp.com>, moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert
Moynihan) wrote:
> 
> In article <28255@castle.ed.ac.uk> ekjc13@castle.ed.ac.uk (N McLennan) writes:
>                                                          
> (In the never-ending Celtic v. Rangers debate...)
> 
> >I believe Celtic are the better team.
> >
> >The Arabian Bairn
> > 
> 
> I really cannot comprehend how people can say this with a straight 
> face.  It's very simple really.  The 'better team' is the one that 
> wins consistently.  Rangers have won 4 championships in a row, are 
> dominating the league, and have a frightening goal differential of
> 30 goals.  By any objective measurement, they are the best team in 
> Scotland, period.


He's Right you Know ! 


Richard Moores - Koppite In Exile    
Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada.
FAX:(613) 763-7283 Phone:(613) 763-4687 
My opinions, not BNR's    
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Norwegian signs for Liverpool
Date: 16 Nov 1992 02:49:03 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

> I can't wait to hear the chant that the Kop comes up with for young
> "Stiggy"
> "There's only one Stig Inge Bjoernebye" perhaps ???
> Donnie, do you have any background on this fella ?

Very little. He's a left back (At least Souness is buying him to cover the
left back spot, watch out Bugsy Burrows) and must have at least 10 caps, otherwise
Liverpool wouldn't be able to get him a work permit. Perhaps some Norwegian
can help ?

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From: gfg@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Gabriele F. Giuliani)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Bryan Roy to Foggia (what a joke!) NOT REALLY!
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:42:32 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Psychic Department

NOT REALLY! In fact if your figure of 2,000,000 US dollars is in the right
ballpark, it is a bargain! With that kind of money in Italy you do not even 
buy the rights to a promising youngster playing in the 3th division.
Roy can only help Foggia plus attract more media attention which is quickly
becoming the name of the game. 

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From: se02@claudius.nextlab.cs.qub.ac.uk (Ian Armstrong)
Subject: (Re : 2nd Dividion Internationals) + N.Ireland
Organization: University of Oulu
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:56:37 GMT



N.Ireland are the best example for providing players from the lower  
divisions.In last night's team against Denmark we had :

		Alan Fettis	(Hull City - Div.2)
		Gary Fleming	(Barnsley  - Div.1)
		Gerry Taggart	(Barnsley  - Div.1)
		Kevin Wilson	(Notts Co. - Div.1)
		Jim Magilton	(Oxford    - Div.1)
		Colin Clarke	(Bournemouth - Div.2)
		Jimmy Quinn	(Reading     - Div.2)

	Not a bad record !!! RESULT 0 - 1.

Note : With a population of only 1.5 Million N.Ireland have to be the most  
successful International team of all time!!! London has 8 times this  
population alone and England are still crap!!

	Long live the memories of 1982 :

	   (WCQ) N.Ireland 1 - 0 W.Germany
	   (WC)  Spain     0 - 1 N.Ireland

	and more recently 1992  :

		Germany   1 - 1 N.Ireland
		N.Ireland 0 - 0 Spain



		LONG LIVE N.IRELAND and GEORGIE BEST !!!!!

	(Any comments most welcome)

			Cheers.

				Ian.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: ECUADORIAN LEAGUE
From: <XJRQB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 21:14:50 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hi fellows, thanks for your mails once again, I know some of you out there
are desperate to see the results; here they are:

In Guayaquil:  Barcelona 3 - Liga 1

In Quito:  D. Quito 1 - Green Cross 1

           NAcional 3 - Emelec 1

Now, Barcelona and Nacional have the 2 spots for the Copa Libertadores to be
played against the uruguayan teams, by sharing the first position at the end
of the Hexagonal Final. @ games must be played to establish the champion.
These 2 games maybe played in the next 2 weeks; as soon as I have the exact
dates I'll post them.

Anyway the final standings are like this:

Barcelona, Nacional  13p.
Emelec  11p.
Liga  9p.
Green Cross  8p.
D. Quito 6p.


Best regards,

Xavier..
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Subject: OTHER THINK I'M SHIT BUT NOT MY HERO
From: t8914229@phillip.edu.au
Date: 17 Nov 92 10:48:32 EST
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

yesterday (16/11), the greatest thing happened to me:  MY HERO - THE GREAT
MAN HIMSELF - GRAEME SOUNESS actually wrote to me and signed it!!!!!  he
touched the piece of paper.  that made my year.  now, an autographed photo
of him would really make my life!!!!!  me, a virtual unknown, nothing, shit,
etc. and MY HERO would take the time to write to me.  you can't get better
than that!
anyway, spartak moscow - you SUCK SHIT.  YOU'RE NOTHING AND YOU WILL NEVER,
EVER BE ANYTHING!!!!!  you are just bloody lucky!!!!!  besides, MY BELOVED
virtually gave you the game.  you won't be so lucky next time.

	LIVERPOOL F.C. RULES THE WORLD FOREVER AND EVER
	GRAEME SOUNESS RULES ALL MANAGERS

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From: vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad)
Subject: Re: World Youth Cup Draw
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 21:22:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.111722.29528@ucc.su.OZ.AU> thomase@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Thomas Esamie) writes:

>4. United States (how much are they paying FIFA for this one?)
>		 (apologies to the folks in the US but it seems
>		  all this development is going real fast, are you
>		  guys really this good or is it part of the WC '94 thing)

Well, Thomas, I know that your Australian papers (just like our American
ones) allow less coverage for soccer than, say, for snookers. Thus, you can
be excused for not knowing that USA has been one of the strongest youth
soccer teams in the World. I presume they made it to the Finals this time
by destroying Mexico and other Central American teams. No surprise there.

Vlad

Employer may disagree
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From: bkjongen@sus.edu.eur.nl (Jan-Pieter Jongenotter)
Subject: Good luck Kaiserslautern!
Summary: Please beat Ajax
Keywords: UEFA Cup
Organization: EUR
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:03:26 GMT

A warm hello to all Kaiserslautern fans and players.
Could you please make me and many dutch people happy
by defeating Ajax?
They are probably the most arrogant team in the world.
I'm waiting for almost two years now for the moment they
wil be put in their place (or lower).
It's all in your hands.
So for the last time now : Good luck!
From: jons@stud.cs.uit.no (Jon Vidar Schneider)
Subject: Bjornebye
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:28:48 GMT

Bjornebye is a player that has played about 15 matches for U21 and about 15
matches from the A-international team.

He is a left back, but he can also play midfield. Quite good also...


Last season he played for Rosenborg, and he scored a lot of goals.....

Especially one great in the cup semifinal where he fired home a freekick form
about 20 years. It went straight up in the corner of the goal......