From: phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone)
Newsgroups: ba.politics,ca.politics
Subject: Re: "encouraging tolerance" is a bad goal
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:41:56 GMT
Organization: Generally in favor of, but mostly random.

In article <1992Oct2.044829.20769@pb2esac.uucp> jlbrand@pb2esac.uucp (Jack Brand) writes:
    >In article <st+p4#n.phil@netcom.com> phil@netcom.com (Phil
    >Ronzone) writes:
    >>In article <1992Sep29.091033.17267@pb2esac.uucp>
    >>jlbrand@pb2esac.uucp (Jack Brand) writes: Since money for the
    >>schools is being coerced (taxed) from people, they rightly
    >>feel that they should not pay for ideas to be to taught to
    >>their kids that they disagree with.
    >>
    >And here it is that you and I irreconcilably part company. To
    >my way of thinking any school which exists to merely teach
    >ideas that the kids' parents agree with is throwing regard
    >for Truth right out the window.

So then, you think schools should exist that teach ideas that
parents DON'T want taught to their kids??? A school is no different
thand any other kind of business.

A business provides services that are desired by its customers.

Of course, you do realize that in all probablity, the ideas YOU want
your kids taught would the kind that some other large group of
people would regard as bad and "throing Truth out of the window"?

    >
    >>2. The State forces a belief monopoly on schools (and on
    >>private tutoring as well in many states), thus making hard to
    >>impossible for some parents to have their kids taught as they
    >>wish.
    >>
    >And thank goodness. If you and yours like the idea of schools
    >teaching Truth-as-defined-by-the-prejudices-of-mom-and-pop so
    >be it; I don't subscribe to that theory of education. The
    >most valuable thing a good education can do is to say, in
    >effect, "welcome all, but regardless of what beliefs you may
    >bring in the door, we will hold them all up to the light of
    >cold evidence, and those beliefs that are worthy of surviving
    >will and those that won't aren't worth clinging to." This, of
    >course, scares the bejeezus out of religious folks, whose
    >worst fear is that their kid will chuck whatever gospel
    >they've tried to raise them by. (You will notice that the
    >large majority of parents "home-schooling" their kids
    >purportedly for a "better education" are doing so for purely
    >religious reasons.)

So I see. YOU have * * * T R U T H * * *.

The whole Truth, and only the Truth, and You Do Truly Know What
Shall Be Taught To Us Lesser Beings!


I am enlightened, you are dogmatic, and he is predjudiced.

Well look, I don't like what a lot of people would (or do) teach
their kids right now. But gawd damn, I'm nowhere near the arrogance
to assume that I KNOW BETTER THAN THOSE PARENTS WHAT SHOULD BE
taugh their kids!

And I have yet to find a perfect person that decide all these
truth issues for him/her self and still be able to make those
decisions for other people.



(more to come on this post ...)


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