From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ( Hari Seldon ... psychohistorian )
Subject: Re: proposed increase in inheritance tax
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: na, usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:42:36 GMT

In <1992Oct14.010619.5749@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:

>In article <1992Oct13.222725.20970@samba.oit.unc.edu> london@calypso.uucp (Larry London) writes:
>>In article <MS-C.718836170.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM>
>>mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:{o1k{xGn>I don't see what you
>>are all upset about with the change in inheritance tax.
>>>After all, it is the responsibility of those of us who work for a living to
>>>support the unproductive. After all, it's all our fault for living in a rural
>>>area, presuming to own land, living in a house, and being self-sufficient.

>Wow, I'm impressed.  This guy is so self sufficient that he doesn't need
>the fabric of society around him.  He made his own terminal, his own network

and how can you presume to say he didn't??????? i could, can you?
if my services stopped right now i could replace them, can you??
if we were put out in the woods with only ourselves i could survive and
prosper, could you??

>connections, and even the electricity to power it.

>He doesn't benefit from anything the government does for him.  The 

he is the government. so am i, and so are you.

>transportation system isn't needed to help bring goods and services to his

thats not the government. thats other people doing what they have chosen
to do with their lives.

>door.  He never travels on airplanes, cars, etc... so the NTSB is
>not important to him in one wit.  He never consumes foreign goods and services,

the ntsb is not even important to the government, (they are regularly ignored)
why should it be important to me?? he may very well not consume imported 
goods and services, just because you may does not mean that he does.

>so the customs office is not needed in his life.

>He is never going to be hit by a natural disaster, and even if he was,

he may or may not. one thing about any misc.rural posters (esp those
that acually live here) is that they could probably do much better
during a disaster than 'city' folk. btw the fl people are suburbanites
and look what has happened to them; they seem to be having a pretty
tough time of it. shoot they're afraid to leave the rubble of what
was once their homes.

>he would refuse help by FEMA.   He didn't learn anything from public education,

has he not paid for public education? how presumtusious to think
that he was educated via public education, could not he have been
educated at home?

>and he doesn't benefit one whit from having public education available to
>his kids, his grandkids, or to the hundreds of thousands of people who

having it available, and of some value (and i'll argue this one with you)
is not the same as utilizing it.

>make my life liveable.   He is beyond needing the public library.

also supported via taxes, you may try to escape the government, but they
are not about to escape you, so whats your point??

>Apparently he doesn't see the need to support the Armed Forces, because

have you seen *my* tax bill???? i'll bet i do pay for them. are you're
parents alive?? was *your* father at home when you were growing up??
mine wasn't. he was to busy protecting dumb sh*s like some i've
seen posting here. 

>he is so self sufficient that he can do that too.  

>The court system?  Don't need that... just shoot 'em all and let God sort
>'em out.

in some cases that may very well be the best thing that could happen.

>Yes,  it is good being totally self sufficient.   I really admire those

he never claimed to be totally self sufficent, *you* laid that claim on*him*

>people who are self sufficient, and don't use any of the benefits of

*you* call them benefits, that does not mean that *i* do.

>our society. Whenever I contemplate cutting my ties to society, I find

thats *your* opionion, just like the woman who has a post here who
was expecting everything to be done for her. i've news for both of you
grow up, become responsible for yourself, take charge of your life.
heck *get* alife.

>that i consider the benefits too imnportant to loose.  But I guess I'm

again thats *your* priorities not mine and maybe not marks? try asking
him *before* you flame next time.

>just a wimp.

from this post, you said it, i didn't.

btw someone else just jumped into this newsgroup (recently) just like you 
did, and not that long ago. they also tried to do the same as you, so 
get your head out of the clouds, and consider what you are typing 
*before* you send it.

bill pociengel
--
llbi locgeenpi " i'm a little confused right now"