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From: kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom)
Subject: Re: Alladin Soundtrack Observation
Keywords: alladin soundtrack
Organization: CRS San Diego UUCP Gateway
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:25:15 GMT

> e49115611@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (EHRMAN, JEFFREY ALAN) writes:
>
>     I'm not trying to put down the Alladin soundtrack, but has anyone else
>noticed that the instrumentals sound recycled?  There is about a 3 second
>section of either "The Cave of Wonders" or "Alladin's Word" which sounds
>EXACTLY like part of "When you wish apon a star."

"Aladdin's Word."  And it's a joke, ah say *joke*, son.  Triggered,
probably, by the visual Pinocchio reference.  It's just like in
CLOSE ENCOUNTERS, when Dreyfuss is floating up into the
Mothership, and you hear a few bars of "When You Wish Upon a
Star."  Same joke.

I will admit, though, that there are similarities to the earlier
scores, but every composer does that.  I also did a little mental
giggle at the reprise of "One Jump".  There was this clip in the
MAKING OF LITTLE MERMAID special where Howard Ashman talks about
how there's always a song in a musical, it's usually the third
song though not always, and it's very early in the show, where
the leading character sits down on something and sings about what
his/her dreams and aspirations.

Lessee 1) Arabian Nights 2) One Jump...3) and by golly!  He's
sitting down and telling us what he wants!

As for those who say that Aladdin and Jasmine look "recycled", I
have to say that I was touched at the fact that they've both
definitely got semitic noses, and are definitely not corn-fed
Midwestern Americans, which just warms the cockles of my
little heart, being non-Caucasian myself. (wasn't until BEAUTY
AND THE BEAST that we got a brunette! [I know, I know, SNOW
WHITE, but who wants to be *her*?]) 

BTW, in the MAKING OF ALADDIN special, Glen Keane said that one
of the inspirations for ALADDIN was MC Hammer.  The pants.

--Kathy Li aka the Rev. Mom
-- 
------------------------| 
kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com |   I love the way your foul little mind works!
------------------------|                ---Jafar, ALADDIN
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From: tedwards@cam.nad.northrop.com (Tony Edwards 27541)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disneyland
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:55:42 GMT
Organization: Northrop Aircraft Division - Operations Productivity, Hawthorne, CA


 

Does anyone have any idea of what the crowds will be like
at Disneyland on Xmas day. 
Please e-mail      

Tony
tedwards@cam.nad.northrop.com
From: rreeves@acs.bu.edu (Robert Reeves)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Closed attractions - December?????????
Keywords: WDL, America Sings, etc.
Date: 21 Nov 92 03:28:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA






I hope this gets posted, I've been having problems here....

Anyway, last time I was at WDL was about 5 years ago, due to a little interuption in my life know as grad school, but my question is this:


America Sings (Sang) was across from the Autopia right?  I always liked that attraction 'case it was one of the few places you could sit down and still be entertained.  Last time I was in Anaheim, I found it closed much to my dismay.  Is the building even still there, and if not what is/will be built to replace it?  

PS:  I miss the old 20,000 leagues under the sea subs too, but at least I have a picture of them to remember them by....

PPS:  Anybody know of a Disney Comics Mailing list?  I've been collecting Unca $crooge comics since I was a wee lad....

		All the Best & thanks for the Legacy In Song CD tip!

		Robert Reeves 617.638.4106 voice
				rreeves@bu.edu  e-mail
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From: dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber)
Subject: Aladdin
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:15:03 GMT

Saw Aladdin in LA at the El Capitan theater.  IT WAS GREAT!!  Clearly
for adults.  Even the pre-show (very Disney) added to the experience.

Now if we can just get Jasmin to lose that hair...:^)


Without change,                         *David Barber*
   nothing can ever get better.            @}-->----

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From: akfirat@husc9.Harvard.EDU (Kenan Akfirat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: <none>
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:54:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov17.005428.17522
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Could Could someone please advise as to which guide book is the best to purchase for WDW?  I'm going to be there during December 17-23.  Any advice about WDW during this period?  Special events, crowds, what to see in four days, etc.?

Thanks in advance for your help.

K.
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Al & Speed Racer:  Separated at Birth?
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:58:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov23.135855.7595@cerritos.edu> kristinat@cerritos.edu writes:
>I had a great time, but I was really distracted at times by the
>animation of Aladdin's character.  It's pretty uninspired and not
>up to the standards of even their last two films (which, in turn,
>do not measure up to most of the older films).  I realize most of

Glen Keane doesn't animated humanoids too well, IMHO.  Ariel and
Aladdin are okay, but his Marahute (the eagle in The Rescuers Down
Under) and Beast are fabulous.


- Robert Cook
From: cindy@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Cindy Windham)
Subject: Re: Disneyland Update
Summary: DL as of 11/15/92
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Organization: University Advancement, University of Calif., Irvine
Keywords: Castle Walkthrough
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:03:32 GMT

In article <18NOV199217170473@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov> dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes) writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.034012.14928@pmarlowe.uucp>, 
>  russell@pmarlowe.cts.com (Russell Shanks) writes...

>>   The Castle Walkthrough is CLOSED.  It's entrance canopy is gone and
>>   I asked around in City Hall.  They confirmed that it's gone for good.


What?!  The Sleeping Beauty Castle walkthrough is shutdown for good?!!
This is very disappointing.  My children loved it.
 
                                                                     
                                                                             
    - 
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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: Disney Execs ON THE NET??
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:19:45 GMT

In article <BxxLF5.Hy0@unix.amherst.edu> atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>Could it be that the rec.arts.disney board was set up by Disney executives??
>Are they monitoring our postings?  Surreptitiously gaining insight into the
>mind of the public?  Are Jeffrey Katzenberg's two assistants reporting our
>discussions to him?  If you were an executive at Disney, would you post??
>What is @walt.disney.com?  More interesting than the JFK conspiracy theories,
>eh?
>
>
>	** Ala"ddi"n **
>
>	"There will be riches and magical places
>	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."
>

I know when I'm CEO I will definitely have someone monitoring this
group daily.  What a great place to get input about anything and
everything about Disney from a bunch of people who really care.  The
fact that this group exists says a lot..I haven't seen
rec.arts.universal or rec.arts.paramount anywhere around.  =-)  Even
if they don't monitor this group, it's still a great way to keep up on
the changes the company is making.  And if I can help enchant someone
else with what Disney did to me, I'm happy.


Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Oliver and Co.
Date: 21 Nov 92 04:01:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

Oliver and Co. indeed has not been released on video.  I found that out a 
couple months ago.  I don't know if it will be.  Anyone?

Jennifer, "let's get a LITTLE more accurate with those Subject: lines, eh?"
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Forget Rush!  What's the Comedy Channel going to do?  All the dumb blonde
jokes resurfaced earlier this year and are worn out now.
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I need a smiley for the sarcasmically impaired.
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From: riouxp@rs6210.ecs.rpi.edu (Peter Joseph Rioux)
Subject: Re: Alladin Soundtrack Observation
Keywords: alladin soundtrack
Reply-To: riouxp@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:26:46 GMT

kathy... and anybody else for that matter.. did anybody notice that one of the songs... i think.. don't qoute me.. i will have to recheck.."whole new world"..
the first few notes sound almost exactly like "beauty and the beast.????

and another sounds like one of the songs in the litle mermaid... have to see the movie.. i just got the soundtrack last night... so i have been studying it....:)


SQUID
(riouxp@rpi.edu
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:20:14 GMT

A reminder:
	Ashman and Menken	"Little Shop of Horrors"
		song: Mean Green Mother From Outer Space

After this song was nominated for Best Song, it was rewritten so that it 
would be presentable for television.  LSoH was rated PG-13 (one of the first),
and rivals their Disney films for shear fun (but don't let your kids watch it).

LSoH was also nominated twice for the Grammy for Best Comedy Song.

I don't think A&M would mind the parody.  Disney, on the other hand...

Torsten at Omaha	Your temperment's wrong for the priesthood,
			And teaching would suit you still less.
			Son be a dentist,
			And be a success.
			
			"Dentist!" from LSoH
			Steve Martin as a sadistic dentist
			(with Bill Murry as a masochistic patient)
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 18 Nov 1992 08:30:50 MST
From: <ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: ALADDIN!!!!! WoW!
 <1992Nov16.055229.3782@news.unomaha.edu> <Bxss1K.3H@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>

As to "WOW WOW WOW WOW..."

I couldn't agree more.  I've been waiting for an adventure/comedy.  Don't
compare it to TLM & B&TB, you can't, and who'd want to.

I also want a copy on laser disc so I can watch the "Cave of Wonders" sequences
over and over.
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Need help on Disney cartoons
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:03:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <By6o0n.ECI@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> michaelp@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Pemberton) writes:
>
>   1) The use of the xerox camera to replace hand-inkers.  I'm not sure
>exactly when this was first done, but I seem to recall its being used in
>Sword in the Stone and possibly in the Aristocats.  The stated reason for
>doing this was that it would capture the energy of the original pencil
>drawings more effectively, but cost was also a big factor as well.

If there was only one factor, it'd be cost.  Another likely factor
would be production time, which is directly related to cost.  Disney
began using Xerography in all films after Sleeping Beauty--from 101
Dalmatians and on.  Sure, it very accurately captured the animators'
"energy," but it doesn't look too pretty (IMHO, anyway).  I've read
that Walt didn't like it, either.  Ub Iwerks was one of the chief
developers of animation Xerography.

Starting with The Rescuers (or possibly Robin Hood), Disney switched
to a gray toner (the coloring agent) to soften the normally harsh
character outlines.  Some lines were hand-inked in different colors
to improve the image quality.  Xerography was used up till and
including The Little Mermaid.  After that, the animators' sketches
have been scanned in and inked and painted on computer (with CAPS),
which brings us up to date.

All companies that I know of use Xerography for traditional hand
animation; Disney is now an exception (also, Richard William's
studio is hand-inking The Thief and the Cobbler).


- Robert Cook
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Potential cost problems with Westcot
Date: 21 Nov 92 14:15:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov20.151216.1@acme.claremont.edu> greg@acme.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>
>He also said that the Westcot project is in serious
>jeopardy because of what he termed the business-hostile policies
>of California's state government.

Lately, I've been hearing a lot about how hostile California has
been to smaller businesses, as well.  A lot of them are simply moving
out of state.  Disney, of course, can't just move Disneyland
elsewhere.  Much opposition has to do with environmental issues, it
seems.  We're all probably going to die of cancer here in
California, anyway. ;-)  The government should let us have Westcot.


- Robert Cook
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: The Mickey Mouse joke
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:45:29 GMT

es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu  writes:
> 	This joke refers to SEX. egad. That is about as dirty as
> it gets, unless you consider poking fun at Disney icons to be a
> sin.
> 	So, if the concept of sex is offensive to you, don't read
> the rest. I've heard a joke about Mickey and court for quite a
> while now, and while I'm not sure if this is the specific one
> from Playboy, it is cute anyway:
> 	

That's the one!  Thanks for redirecting the flames!  Hope you enjoy 
the E-Mail!

Torsten at Omaha
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: rec.arts.disney FAQ
Distribution: world
Date: 21 Nov 92 11:42:42 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

Parts 1B and Part 2 of the FAQ didn't make it here -- they were only blank
messages.

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From: sroka@evax.gdc.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: WDW commerical on TV reply
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:24:03 GMT
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

(Andy Oakland) writes:
> In article <1992Nov18.121349.1@evax.gdc.com> sroka@evax.gdc.com writes:
>>I've recently seen the new(er) WDW commerical with the Be Our Guest theme. At
>>the end of this spot they have Mickey on top of Spaceship Earth waving as the
>>camera pulls back.
> 
> Just checking:  The Mickey on top of Spaceship Earth in this shot _is_ a
> robot, right? (or maybe I should say an "audioanimatronic figure?" :^)
> I just can't imagine them putting a stuntman in a Mickey suit up there!
> 
Sorry, but it looks like the real Mickey on top of Spaceship Earth and NOT an
AA figure.

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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: BatB Sales
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:02:18 GMT

I read a recent newspaper article talking about the BatB and Batman Returns 
video releases.  The article mentioned that Fantasia is second to E.T. in 
sales, and that BatB would probably surpass it.

As to sales on the first day, I believe this counts pre-orders as well as the
sales made to people camping outside the Disney stores.

Torsten at Omaha
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Lyrics to "Kiss the Girl" from the Little Mermaid
Date: 21 Nov 1992 01:58:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Hi!  I've finally got time to do this, and I just finished watching the
movie again (yeah!) so I'm inspired.  So, without further ado:

Percussion--Strings--Winds--Words--

There you see her, sitting there across the way,
She don't got a lot to say, but there's something about her,
And you don't know why but you're dying to try,
You wanna--Kiss the Girl.

Yes, you want her.  Look at her, you know you do,
Possible she want you to; there is one way to ask her,
It don't take a word, not a single word,
Go on an'--Kiss the Girl.
(Sing with me now)

Sha-la-la-la-la-la, my oh my,
Look like the boy too shy, 
Ain't gonna kiss the girl.
Sha-la-la-la-la-la ain't that sad,
Ain't it a shame, too bad,
He gonna miss the girl.

(Speaking interlude where Eric guesses Ariel's name with Sebastian's help)

Now's your moment, floating in a blue lagoon,
Boy, you better do it soon, no time will be better,
She don't say a word, and she won't say a word
Until you--Kiss the Girl.

Sha-la-la-la-la-la, don't be scared, 
You got the moves prepared,
Go on and kiss the girl,
Sha-la-la-la-la-la, don't stop now,
Don't try to hide it how
You wanna kiss the girl.

Sha-la-la-la-la-la, float along
And listen to the song,
The song say Kiss the girl,
Sha-la-la-la-la-la, music plays,
Do what the music says, 
You gotta kiss the girl.
You got to kiss the girl,
Why don't you kiss the girl,
Go on and kiss the girl,
Go on and kiss the girl.

**********
Enjoy!
Linda
-- 
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding"
					--Proverbs 3:5
"Aw, Mom, you act like I'm not even wearing a bungie cord!"--Calvin
"It's barbaric, but hey, it's home"--"Arabian Nights" from --Aladdin--
From: michelle@hana.Central.Sun.COM (Michelle Donat SE Chicago Loop )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Is this idea worthy?
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:02:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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Howsabout Sleeping Beauty!!  (Also the spring re-release!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!)
---

Michelle Donat
SE Chicago Loop
michelle@sunloop.Central
312-855-9530

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From: jimminy@camelot.bradley.edu (Alex Valm)
Subject: Re: Hoop-Dee-Doo
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 21 Nov 92 23:48:27 GMT

In <Rich_Koster.13ob@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US> Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:

>In a message dated Sat 21 Nov 92 11:53, Power@iscsvax.uni.edu wrote:

> P> My wife wants to know if the Hoop-Dee-Doo review is worth the cost. 
> P> The guides
> P> seem to push this dinner show and it'll cost our family $90 for the
> P> evening....

> P> We will be at DisneyWorld for 4 days Dec 21-25.  We have a 5 and 7
> P> year old...

>Daniel, my wife and I saw the Hoop-Dee-Doo for the first time this past
>September and wholeheartedly recommend it to you and your family, as well
>as to couples without children.  It is much fun and includes good food (all


I agree it is fun for the whole family but just to warn you, when my family
went a few years ago, one of the female actresses in the show came into the
audience and kissed my father on his bald head.  This put my then-seven year
old brother into a tantrum.  He couldn't believe that a stange woman came up
to my father and kissed him leaving a set of red lips on his head.
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: lyrics to TLM and BatB request
Date: 19 Nov 1992 02:04:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Okay, here are the lyrics to "Under the Sea" from The Little Mermaid:

The seaweed is always greener in somebody elses lake,
You dream about goin' up there, but that is a big mistake,
Just look at the world around you, right here on the ocean floor,
Such wonderful things around you, what more is you lookin' for?

Under the sea, Under the sea,
Darling it's better down where it's wetter, 
Take it from me!
Up on the shore they work all day,
Out in the sun they slave away,
While we devotin' full time to floatin' 
Under the sea!

Down here, all the fish is happy, as up through the waves they roll,
The fish on the land ain't happy, they sad cause they in the bowl.
But fish in the bowl is lucky;  they in for a worser fate:
One day when the boss gets hungry, guess who gon' be on the plate
(Whoa no)

Under the sea, Under the sea,
Nobody beat us, fry us and eat us
In fricassee,
We what the land folks loves to cook
Under the sea we off the hook, 
We got no troubles, life is the bubbles,
Under the sea
(Under the sea)
Under the sea 
(Under the sea)
Since life is sweet here, we got the beat here
Naturally
(Naturally-ee-ee)
Even the sturgeon and the ray,
They get the urge and start to play,
We got the spirit, you got to hear it
Under the sea.

The newt play the flute, the carp play the harp
The plaice play the bass and they soundin' sharp
The bass play the brass, the chub play the tub
The fluke is the duke of soul (Yeah)
The ray he can play, the lings on the strings,
The trout rockin' out, the blackfish she sings,
The smelt and the sprat, they know where it's at,
And oh that blowfish blow!

Under the sea, Under the sea,
When the sardine begin the beguine
It's music to me!
What do they got, a lot of sand?
We got a hot crustacean band!
Each little clam here know how to jam here
Under the sea!
Each little snug here, cutting a rug here
Under the sea!
Each little snail here know how to wail here,
That's why it's hotter under the water,
Ya, we in luck here, down in the muck here,
Under the Sea!
*****
Again, enjoy and hope it helps!
Linda
P.S.  "Kiss the girl" coming soon!
-- 
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding"
					--Proverbs 3:5
"Aw, Mom, you act like I'm not even wearing a bungie cord!"--Calvin
"It's barbaric, but hey, it's home"--"Arabian Nights" from --Aladdin--
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Aladdin TV Show
Distribution: world
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:58:39 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

From Broadcasting magazine, November 16, 1992:
 
According to sources close to Buena Vista Television, the Walt Disney
Studios syndication arm will announce within the next two weeks that
the newly released animated "Aladdin" theatrical will be spun off into
a syndicated series within BVT's two-hour Disney Afternoon cartoon
block, likely replacing half-hour spoke Tail Spin in fall 1994.  It is
said that Disney will be pitching for a Saturday morning slot on the
networks, similar to the weekend berths the studio secured for Little
Mermaid and DA's Goof Troop on CBS this season.  A Buena Vista
spokesman had no comment.

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