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From: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser")
Subject: Re: ENTPs/XNTPs (was Re: Just for fun ...)
Organization: Generic American College Kids (G.A.C.K.)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:18:54 GMT
Reply-To: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser")
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fs@cs.tulane.edu (Frank Silbermann) writes:
>
>At some point, the INTP may decide that something must be done,
>and so he develops an ingenious organization system in which
>he can figure out the place of every object by the objects nature,
>and can get and put things with minimal effort and attention.
>At that point, his office may switch to being hyper-neat and organized!

I do this on a regular basis.  Once, the state of neatness lasted for almost
two weeks.

Moral: overcompensation is undereffective except for the overmotivated.

Seth L. Blumberg          \ Warning: This posting has been determined to cause
slb22@columbia.edu (play)   \ cancer in laboratory animals.  Please make sure
sethb@ctr.columbia.edu (work) \ that no white mice are allowed to read it.  
    > No one I know shares my opinions, least of all Columbia University. <
From: cg711@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: PANIC ATTACKS:
Date: 13 Dec 1992 20:17:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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HELLO:
     I am not sure if this is the right place to post about
     PANIC ATTACKS if it isn,t could some body direct me to
     the correct area.I suffer from mild to severe panic attacks
     I was shopping in a mall and suddenly had a panic attack
     I wont go into symptoms but I was examined by a physican
     and an emergency room doctor who both told me I was suffering
     from panic attacks.I was put on Valium an told to relax.
     FAT CHANCE the attacks come about twice weekly and I am
     finding it increasingly hard to function,I was wondering
     weather anybody could e-mail me some information on them
     to help me better deal with them.THANKS IN ADVANCE
     howardr@panix.com            HOWARD
From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Archive of alt.psychology.personality available
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:44:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Hello,

Since the inception of this newsgroup a few weeks ago, I've saved each
and every post that arrived here at my site (Netcom).  If you'd like
to get the complete archive (at least through today), let me know.
If I get more than a couple of requests, I'll upload it to some
anonymous ftp archive site, e.g., wuarchive.  It includes posts 1-321.  

Because the file is so huge, I've compressed it (unix .Z compression).
Even with compression it is still almost 300K in size.

Jon Noring

(p.s., I will not send it in ASCII format, it is just too large, so you'll
have to be able to handle it in one or more compressed formats.)

-- 

Charter Member of the INFJ Club.

Now, if you're just dying to know what INFJ stands for, be brave, e-mail me,
and I'll send you some information.  It WILL be worth the inquiry, I think.

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From: u2345ae@unx.ucc.okstate.edu (Sharon Ann Hamon)
Subject: Thanks
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center, Stillwater OK
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:20:27 GMT


Thanks to all who responded to my requests for copies of the MBTI and
interpretation/scoring procedures.

This account will no longer belong to me after December 18.  It will be
passed on to someone else.  Please do not send email after that date.  ;-)

--Sharon
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From: bkt@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Barrie Trinkle)
Subject: Re: ENTPs/XNTPs (was Re: Just for fun ...)
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:05:31 GMT

yamauchi@ces.cwru.edu (Brian Yamauchi) writes:

>In article <ByvIDs.GAs@ra.nrl.navy.mil> humphrey@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Jeff Humphrey [Jeffus]) writes:

>>	 D) Often simply 'out of touch' with things going on.
>>	    - What time is it ?
>>	    - What day is it ?
>>	    - What year is it ?
>>	    - Has to spend lots of money on flowers    :-)

>D) Sounds more like an INTP to me.

What???  I'm an INTP, and am (and always have been) intensely aware of
time and the external world, to the point of being hyper-responsible
about stuff like bills, birthdays, getting to parties on time...
Am I not true to type in this regard?
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From: jabutt@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Joe Butt)
Subject: Re: You and your honey...
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:23:36 GMT


The number responding to the poll was quite small (n=8), but those of you
who responded deserve an update.  As of now, the respondents and their
beloved(s?) are:

INTP-INFJ  --  1
XNTP-INFJ  --  1 
INTP-INTP  --  2
INTP-ESFJ  --  1
INFP-INFP/ENFP 1/1
INFJ-ESFP  --  1
INTJ-ENFJ  --  1

Compared with my personal observations of friends and acquaintances, these
results have a much higher incidence of similar types.  I'd like to continue
the poll until sometime after the new year to get a larger sample.  

Thanks for taking the time to respond.

Joe

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From: noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring)
Subject: File containing post numbers 1-321 uploaded to wuarchive
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:52:39 GMT

Hello,

Many people have not received the earliest posts made to this newsgroup.  
Fortunately, I have been, and continue to, save all the posts that arrive
at my site netcom.

I just uploaded to anonymous ftp site wuarchive.wustl.edu both compressed
(.Z) and PKZIPed (.zip) files of post numbers 1-321.  They can be found in
subdirectory /pub and are called app1-321.*.  If you don't know how to
retrieve the file of your choice using anonymous ftp, ask your sysadmin for
help, or read about ftp at your site (some sites do not have anonymous ftp
access - in this case e-mail me and maybe we can make other arrangements.)

BTW, is there anybody out there who'd be willing to find a more permanent
home for archiving these posts?  Any leads or advice would be most
appreciated.

Thanks.

Jon Noring


-- 

Charter Member of the INFJ Club.

Now, if you're just dying to know what INFJ stands for, be brave, e-mail me,
and I'll send you some information.  It WILL be worth the inquiry, I think.

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From: kbays@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Bays)
Subject: Question about my type
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 13:20:52 GMT


This is a very interesting group.  I'm new to this subject, but I'm
fascinated by what what I see so far about personality tests, etc.  I
recently took the Myers-Briggs test posted here, and learned that I am an
INTJ.  While individually, these four characteristics all seem appropriate
to my personality, the general description for INTJ among the 16
personality type seems particularly UNlike me.  While the description of 
the J type seems to fit, the description of the J type combined with the
other three factors does not.  In other words, I think I'm more like an
INTP than an INTJ, although I am no doubt a J (and tested as EXTREMELY J)
if you look at that one characteristic by itself.  Can anyone offer any
explanation? 


Ken

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From: jabutt@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (Joe Butt)
Subject: Typewatching: E-I and T-F
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:09:48 GMT

One of the first things I notice about a person is really two things --
their E-I and T-F combination.  I'll try to put something that's really
more right-brain into the left-brain mode of words...

EF types exude warmth on a grand scale.  These are people who like to be
around people in a warm-hearted way.  

ET types meet people easily and are gregarious.  They are generally not
afraid to say and do things that may offend others, if necessary (or, in
the cases of ENTP's and ESTP's, just for shock value!).

IF's display an approach-avoidance conflict that translates into the
desire to relate to others on a small scale or even one-to-one.  Often
these people won't speak unless spoken to, but display an openness that
may be missing with the ET's.

IT's appear more aloof than other types.  The more introverted ones may go
for long periods of time without desiring any human contact.

My experience has been that ET and IF types are sometimes mistaken for
each other.  (ENTJ vs. INFJ, etc.)

**For Myers-Briggs neophytes:
E = Extravert
I = Introvert
T = Thinking
F = Feeling

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|School Psychologist            |starve a compulsion'...?"                  |
|Tennessee School for the Deaf  |"I used to think my mind was a wonderful   |
|@Oak Ridge Educational Network |thing until I realized who was telling me."|
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From: bruce@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Krueger)
Subject: Re: OK, OK, what are the words?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:09:51 GMT

noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>"Name two English words which are pronounced the same way but have no
>letters in common."
>OK, I give up, what are they?  
   *******
   hmmmm, how 'bout "I" and "aye"?



   there may be others.  in fact, the state of the language being what
   it is, there *must* be others.

   bruce
From: ci022@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Kirby)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: PHOBIA w.r.t. Urinating at Public Toilets (!!)
Date: 18 Dec 1992 22:23:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ci022@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Kirby)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, wsbusr3@rwb.urc.tue.nl (Pieter Filius) says:
>  A 17 years old girl seeks answers to the following problem:
>  She's got trouble urinating on lavatories for years.
>  Why?
>  Obviously the fact that people are waiting for that lavatory
This is not obvious.  She should look further for the problem.
>  or ONLY the thought that they would makes it impossible for her
>  to let the urine go! So she simply doesn't, resulting in a 
>  painful bladder, no matter how badly she needs to piddle.

>  QUESTIONS:
>  
>  * Has anyone else experieced something similar, 
>    or knows anyone who does? (The girl suspects to be unique wrt this
>    'absurd problem', as she calls it.)

There are lots of bathrooms on my campus, but I tend to use
just a few.  Where possible I like to use my favorate stall.
I like to go where I feel at home.

Sometime when she doesn't have to urinate, she should comb her 
hair in each available bathroom and pick the one she is the 
least uncomfortable in.  Then she should ignore all the other
bathrooms and spend time there regularly until she feels at home.

Did I say "should"?  I mean "she might consider."  I'm not
qualified to say "should".
From: roise@sumax.seattleu.edu (Linda Roise)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: Addictive Personality
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:18:41 GMT
Organization: Seattle University
In-reply-to: nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu's message of 8 Dec 92 18:07:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.180759.14026@genie.slhs.udel.edu> nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz) writes:

   This is just a theory, but I believe that both addicts and non-addicts
   are capable of starting addictive behavior--the difference is that
   non-addicts get uncomfortable early in the addictive process and change
   what they're doing. 

Don't forget to figure in the biological aspects of addiction.
Addiction is a bio-psycho-social disease/disorder.

Broaching this issue is likely to open a can of worms.  I'm willing to
dialog on it for a while if it seems useful to anyone.

Linda Roise, M.A.  
former Director, Addiction Studies Pgm., Seattle University

--
Linda Roise
Seattle, WA, USA
roise@sumax.seattleu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: gbarton@sonja4.acc.stolaf.edu (Gregory R Barton)
Subject: Re: The labeling of environmentalists
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN  USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:34:59 GMT

This thread should only stay on this group if personality is discussed, not
politics, environmentalism, etc.  

___________________________________________________________________
I don't need a reason to live. I need an irreason. 
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From: wsbusr3@rwb.urc.tue.nl (Pieter Filius)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: PHOBIA w.r.t. Urinating at Public Toilets (!!)
Keywords: Phobia, girl, trouble for years, social life, urinate
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:34:26 GMT
Reply-To: wsbusr3@urc.tue.nl


  Hello regular readers of this group and casual lurkers, 
 
  I would like to draw attention to the following deeply sad problem:
  
  A 17 years old girl seeks answers to the following problem:
  She's got trouble urinating on lavatories for years.
  Why?
  Obviously the fact that people are waiting for that lavatory
  or ONLY the thought that they would makes it impossible for her
  to let the urine go! So she simply doesn't, resulting in a 
  painful bladder, no matter how badly she needs to piddle.
  Because of this she started avoiding going out as much as possible, 
  for it'll just result in bladderpains and a return home, 
  which is the ONLY place she can empty it.
  The whole thing has become pretty obsessive: She's planning the moment
  she has to go, on school, therefore feeling an urge to go build up, 
  checking every quiet lavatory yet returning only more frustrated
  and without success, trying another one with things getting worse only
  etc. etc. - sounds like a vicious circle.
  
  Relaxation exercises, reading on the lavatory, trying to think 
  positively: She tried/tries it, but it won't help.
  
  Right now she's getting treatment from a mesmerist, 
  and gets certain herbs to enforce a 'character-change'.
  (I have no more details on the treatment/herbs.) 
  
  Being imprisoned by her own bladder, 
  it all tends to depress her quite a lot - understandably.
  
  QUESTIONS:
  
  * Has anyone else experieced something similar, 
    or knows anyone who does? (The girl suspects to be unique wrt this
    'absurd problem', as she calls it.)
  * What data is available on this type of phobia or related ones?
  * And especially:
    WHAT treatment would be most effective to solve this problem?
  
  Responses to ANY of these questions please to:
  at073@cleveland.freenet.edu
  or just to this group.
  
  All responses will be forwarded to the girl's home address - 
  don't know her in person, but sure hopes Usenet could prove it's
  power once again ...
 
  Thanks in advance!
  
  With kind regards, 
  R. Blokland. (The Netherlands)

Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: harper@nic.funet.fi (Rob Harper)
Subject: Re: Meyers-Briggs test
Organization: Finnish University and Research Network (FUNET)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:19:57 GMT

Are there any programmes for MBTI available for MSDOS/MAC?
Any references to their whereabouts would be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

-=ROB=-
From: ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: OK, OK, what are the words?
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:43:16 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

bruce@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Krueger) writes:
>noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>>"Name two English words which are pronounced the same way but have no
>>letters in common."
>>OK, I give up, what are they?  
>  hmmmm, how 'bout "I" and "aye"?
>   there may be others.  in fact, the state of the language being what
>   it is, there *must* be others.
c & sea
w * doubleyou (sp?  but it doesn't have a 'w' in it)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: M22592@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: OK, OK, what are the words?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:14:23 GMT

In article <BzABoG.L1I@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
bruce@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Bruce Krueger) writes:
 
|noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
|>"Name two English words which are pronounced the same way but have no
|>letters in common."
|>OK, I give up, what are they?
|   *******
|   hmmmm, how 'bout "I" and "aye"?
|
|   there may be others.  in fact, the state of the language being what
|   it is, there *must* be others.
|
|   bruce
|
    What about "a" and "eh", eh?
 
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From: Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid)
Subject: Request: Myers-Briggs
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:12:00 GMT

Could someone please e-mail me a copy of the Myers-Briggs program 
(it was in basic i think)
thanks in advance
ben

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Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: gift question
X-To: DIANA SMITH
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:33:00 GMT

From monet@carson.u.washington.edu (Diana Smith)
>Any suggestions for what to buy a 14 year old girl-woman for X-mas?

    Try a gift certificate for a record store.  There's always some tape/CD
that she won't have but would like to.

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From: 154s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mona Hatfield)
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
Subject: moving
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:12:18 GMT
Reply-To: 154s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mona Hatfield)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Hi there.  I don't normally post, but I do read this group from time
to time and now is the time for me to request some wonder net advice.
 My husband and I are moving to Alaska with our 13 year old son.  We
are also going to drive from the state of Maryland to Alaska.

Can anyone please tell me what I can expect from the teenager as far
as attitude change/personality change as well as anything we might be
able to do for him to make the journey more pleasant.

Thank you

Mona Hatfield
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
From: gmclucki@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Gemma McLuckie)
Subject: Re: moving
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:45:09 GMT

Mona writes about a move from Maryland to Alaska.

Is your son excited about the move?  Is it the adventure of his lifetime?  Or 
is he disappointed and angry about leaving Maryland?

The answers to those questions sure would influence his response to the move.
He may take it all in stride, or he may go into a tailspin of loneliness or
sullen behavior.  Just be prepared for either reaction.  If he adjusts easily,
count your blessings.  If he doesn't do as well, talk to school counselors.
Get him involved in activities such as Boy Scouts, sports or the computer club.
Don't let him sit around and stew.

Your attitude also makes a difference.  If you're not too excited, he'll know 
it.  So admit that you're having difficulties, and ask if *he* can help *you* 
adjust.

Good Luck,
Gemma McLuckie
From: johng@oce.orst.edu (John A. Gregor)
Newsgroups: alt.parents-teens
Subject: Re: gift question
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:57:31 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography
Distribution: pnw
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> Any suggestions for what to buy a 14 year old girl-woman for X-mas?

For any teenager: A phone and a seperate line.

A little more info might help.  What does she like to do?  What $$$?

-JohnG
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From: tonyz@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Tony Zugates)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:34:24 GMT
Subject: Re: Good grades
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.