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From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio;6442;3.55;)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: NHL NEWS FOR 13 DECEMBER 1992
Date: 13 Dec 92 15:40:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: philabs.1992Dec13.154048.16158
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.



NHL NEWS FOR 13 DECEMBER 1992:


ROSTER MOVES:

The NEW YORK RANGERS sent defensman SERGEI ZUBOV and netminder COREY
HIRSCH to Binghamton of the American Hockey League.

The NEW YORK ISLANDERS recalled centers TRAVIS GREEN and MARTY MCINNIS and
right wing GRAEME TOWNSHEND from Capital District of the AHL.


-JPC


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From: patrick@psych.toronto.edu (Patrick Keelan)
Subject: Re: Housley to be traded
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:34:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.122936.9499@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> carrd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:
>Although Housley would be a quality addition to just about any team, If Murray
>trades Chaison (sp?), Cummins, Kennedy and Primeau for him Ilitch should can
>him on the spot.  Trade alot of good, young players for a guy 28 thats been
>in the NHL since high school - Come ON!  The Wings already have Racine, and
>I thought they acquired Howe to quarterback the powerplay.  
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>What they need is a big defenseman with a mean streak, a Stevens, Manson, 
>Hatcher (I know thats what all teams want...).
>

You said it all with the underlined above.  I didn't know that they
had acquired Howe to quarterback the powerplay.  I don't know where
they got the idea that someone as old as Howe who even in his prime
was never an offensive power could quarterback their power play.
In any event, if that's why he was brought to Detroit, he ain't
doing the job.  Housley was runner-up for the Norris trophy last
year, due in no small part to his ability to quarterback the 
power play.  That's why Detroit needs him.  Sure, they'd be
giving up younger players to get him.  But let's face it, at
28 he still has several productive years left (a fellow named
Messier was the league MVP last year although over the age
of 30).  Independent of that, Detroit is in a position to take
a run for the Cup now, and adding Housley might be the last
piece in the puzzle to help them win it.

-Pat K.
 U. of Toronto
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From: kwh@CS.CMU.EDU (Kevin Hartmann)
Subject: Re: trade rumor
Originator: kwh@GLOBE.EDRC.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:39:06 GMT


Anna Matyas writes:

   I agree with Gerald on Jagr.  I was screaming for him to be traded last
   year and my sectionmates thought I was crazy.  Now some of them are agreeing
   with me.

   Most players experience slumps but what Jagr is "in" is not a slump.  To
   use an old saying, I think he's too big for his britches.  He's NOT Mario
   Lemieux and never will be.  He seems to have little regard for his
   linemates while on the ice; in fact, he seems to think he has no line
   mates.  One-dimensional is a good term for him, in more ways than one.
   Unless Bowman sits on him, and to this point he doesn't seem to have the
   inclination to do that, then he's out of here.  And soon, I hope.  Not
   necessarily for Hull but certainly something is cooking somewhere.

   Mom.

Okay let's put Jagr on the Stevens/Tochett line, take him off the Rookie/Loney line, and
see what kind of 'slump' he'll be in.

Even Mario said that in a few years, Jagr will be the best player in the league.

7 Game winning goals - best in the NHL isn't so bad.

Kevin
	

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From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Subject: Re: Housley to be traded
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:44:20 GMT

alee@ecs.umass.edu writes:

>housley is not worth as much as detroit and the rangers are willing
>to offer.  he consistently dissappears in the playoffs, and being a
>Bruins fan, i,ve seen phil in his prime look horrifically average
>in the playoffs way back when he was a buffalo sabre. since becoming 
>a jet winnipeg has twice blown 3-1 advantages in playoffs to the
>edmonton oilers and vancouver canucks. 

Pardon me, but that is false.  Winnipeg lost to Edmonton 4 games to 3
after being up 3 to 1 when Dale Hawerchuk was still with the team.
That was 1989-90.  It was the best hockey series that I have ever
seen.  Housley was not a member of the Jets at that time.  

The following off season Hawerchuk and Housley were traded for each
other, and the Jets missed the playoffs that first year with Housley.
Last year, as you correctly mention, the Jets lost to the Canucks in
the first round after being up 3 to 1.  

As a Jets fan, I have not been disappointed with Phil.  

>granted you cant blame phil
>totaaly, but you turn to the big guys. phil's a great talent, heif 
>will put up some numbers, but frankly is somewhat overrated. i
>know it's taboo to trade within the division but it would be interes           ting to see what pat quinn of vancouver would offer as gerry diduck
>is about as offensive as canuck blue line gets. detroit should offer             ysebeart and a defenseman, but not chiasson (or the other way 
>around). rangers seem mad at the lost chance to ruin themselves
>last summer (i'm talking lindros) and want to screw themselves now
>they don't need phil, they got leetch, lowe and patrick!

If you think the Rangers got Lowe for his scoring, then you are being
silly (and if the Rangers got Lowe for his scoring, then the Rangers
are being stupid).  Lowe provides some more winning leadership, and
solid defensive capabilities to the Rangers.  Kevin has never been a
great scorer in his career (my guess, as I don't have the stats in
front of me).  

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From: loser@clueless.newbie.tyro.org ()
Subject: Re: Player of the Week?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:13:14 GMT

Iafrate was named player of the month (November) at the Cap Centre when they
played Calgary last week.

Jaime
GO CAPS!!! _/

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From: daniell@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy)
Subject: Re: Anaheim and Miami. WHY?!!
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:20:34 GMT

In article <farenebt.724080071@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Droopy) writes:
>The subject line says it all. You've got places like Milwaukee,
>Hamilton, Seattle, etc and they choose Southern California and 
>Southern Florida! Despite the change in leadership, apparently
>the same dolts are calling the shots. Also, this is so inane to
>believe but i heard the Anaheim team would be called the "Mighty
>Ducks". I thought this new leadership was supposed to bring the
>game MORE credibility...

Well, in a semi-related story, Disney czar Michael Eisner exercised a stock
option last week reportedly worth $185 Million or so...I guess the $50M he had
to put up for the expansion franchise was pocket change.  Recession?  What
Recession?

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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: The Anaheim Mice and the Miami vICE may be in!
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:08:27 GMT

In article <1genkgINN8k5@agate.berkeley.edu> shindle@ocf.berkeley.edu (Richard Michael Shindle) writes:
>I personally think that LA does not need another team. If you are going to
>give another team to Southern California, put it farther south. Nearer
>Long Beach and San Diego (somewhere in between would be nice.) I'm a die
>hard Kings fan and spend my time in LA when not in school. I don't think
>the LA area is ready for another hockey team. I would go north of San
>Francisco like maybe Seattle.

Please read your maps.  Anaheim *is* between Long Beach and San Diego.

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From: rcroteau@sobeco.com (r.croteau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Manon news
Date: 14 Dec 92 05:00:18 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Sobeco Ernst & Young


	I just heard on RDS that Manon played tonight.  She played during
the second period for about 6 minutes allowing 1 goal on three shots. In the
interview after the game she mentionned that she was happy that it happened
this way and she can't wait before starting (and finishing) a game.

P.S. This might have been saturday's game, i dunno, I don't follow the IHL
	much but I know this might be of interest to some that why I post it.
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From: kmews@minnie.imd.nrc.ca
Subject: Re: Realignment
Organization: NRC-Institute for Marine Dynamics
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:50:34 GMT

In article <Bz441y.Got@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca>, shoe@watsci.UWaterloo.ca (Mark Shoesmith) writes:
> In article <1992Dec11.164615.19724@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes:
>>
>>Here are my annual predictions for re-alignments:
>>
>>
>>Montreal, Quebec, Ottawa, Toronto, Hamilton, Boston, Buffalo
>>
> I don't disagree with your alignments, but at the present time "Hamilton's"
> team is in Hartford.  If Hartford moved, I think it would be to Milwaukee 
> before Hamilton, unfortunate as that is.
> 
> Mark S.

So Hartford moves to Milwaukee (and the Norris) and Detriot moves to
the Adams. Seven chances a year to beat Montreal. Excellent!!!

KM

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From: ummak027@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Anson Sen Sau Mak)
Subject: Re: Kevin Lowe TRADED!
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:13:11 GMT

Just found that Kevin Lowe was in the NY Rangers tonight at the Sport
news, but they lost 3-0 to Calgary Flames. Anyone who watch the whole
game? How's Lowe doing?



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From: euaaen@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall)
Subject: Re: Wonder of Leksand ???
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:26:58 GMT

Me:

>etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson) writes:

>> Well, the roots for this might have something to do with that Leksand
>> has had a team in the Swedish top division for the past 40+ years.
>> So elite level hockey has been played in Leksand since the early 50s.

>To be specific, since the 1951/52 season.
>Trivia quiz: which of the current elite teams have the second-longest
>streak in the top division?

And the answer is... Brynas. They've been in the top division since
the 1960/61 season. That's exactly a decade longer than Farjestad, who
come in third.

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From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Games on ESPN, 2nd half
Keywords: ESPN, televised games
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:59:40 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.


When someone first posted the NHL games that ESPN was televising, only the  
games from the first part of the season were given--and the last game  
listed was tonight's NYR @ StL game.

Anyone know what the rest of ESPN's NHL schedule is, and can post it? (If  
it's already been posted while I was out of town, sorry...I caught up on  
my net reading when I returned, but may have missed it).

Thanks.
From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: trade rumor
Date: 17 Dec 92 06:32:34 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO

In article <Af=nZ4u00Uh701iHAO@andrew.cmu.edu> am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anna Matyas) writes:
>
>Jaromir Jagr and unnamed player(s) for Brett Hull.
>
 Brett Hull isn't going anywhere. The Blues need Hull to market their new
Arena which will be the new home for the Blues.

IF Hull ever leaves St. Louis, look for him to be reunited with Oates in
Boston.

>Hmmm...Hull isn't happy in St Louis.  Jagr has said he'll go anywhere
>for the money (but he also wants sunshine and pretty girls).  Would
>Hull be happy on the second (or third?!) line?
>

Hull has been playing on the SECOND line in St. Louis. Shanahan - Janney -
Emerson is the first line.

>Mom.

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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Housley trade rumours (to the Wings)
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:43:29 GMT

In article <BzD9rK.FH2@ccu.umanitoba.ca> ummak027@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Anson Sen Sau Mak) writes:
>I read the Winnipeg Free Press today, and there is a headline at the Sport
>page titled: "Housley trade unlikely: GM."
>
>At the paper, it said:
>
>	" Winnipeg Jets GM Mike Smith said last night that despite the
>rash of trade rumors concrening his best defenceman in the last week, 'the
>probability is extremely high that we will not trade him'."
> 
>Any thought on this? Phil just had a good game last night, and led the
>Jets defeated teh Devils 4-3 and he had collected 2 points. To me, I think
>the Jets better keep a skillful player like Phil. Agree? Disagree.

Bryan Murray is turning out to be an ineffective, undecisive GM...
he seems totally paralyzed by fear of making a bad trade, and thus is
unable to trade at all.  He's been coaching his team for well over
a year now...he should know well by now which players are dispensible
and which are indispensible on the Wings if he is looking to obtain
someone like Housley. 

Other GM's don't have cheap owners like Pollin who force their 
GM to offer up players like Ciccarelli for nothing.

Bad coach turning into a bad GM...the league is lucky...because a
GM in Detroit who knew what he was doing, with Illitch's deep pockets
would be dangerous.

Gerald
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From: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Subject: The Montreal massacre
Reply-To: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:50:21 GMT

 I couldn't resist the title after Paul had thrown down the gauntlet. 

 The mighty Habs were crushed Sunday night by the Rangers 10-5. It marks the
first time that the Rangers scored in double figures against the Habs. All in
all the Habs wern't outplayed by such a large margin, however a combination of
Ranger opertunism and "Red light" Racicot spelled doom for the Habs.

 "Red light" had been showing promise of late however, last night the old
Racicot showed up. 

 As for the Bruins on Saturday night, - ugh, Moog was home alone in Montreal.
He kept the Bruins in the game until that bonehead penalty put it out of reach.
Oh well - the Habs win in the Forumn and we win in the garden, some things never
change - until the playoffs.

 By the way Paul, paybacks are a bitch.

Boris Volk - A Bruins fan in Hab country - and loving it.
 
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From: euatno@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Nopp)
Subject: Re: IZVESTIJA: Russia II - Sweden
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:13:01 GMT

tarkiain@jyu.fi (Mikko Tarkiainen) writes:

>In article <1992Dec18.091810.14268@ericsson.se> etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson) writes:
>>
>> Group B, played in St Petersburg, Russia:
>>
>> Thursday, December 17:
>>
>> RUSSIA II - SWEDEN 4-3 (1-1,0-2,3-0)

>> It was Russia's equalizing goal that was doubtful. Some person threw in
>> an extra puck, so there were two pucks in play. The Swedish players at
>> the bench tried to get the referee's attention by shouting loudly.

>Strange, this happened in the SWE-FIN game, too! According to the
>TV-commentator, the Swedes threw in an extra puck when the Finns were
>having a strong offense (this time the referee heard the screaming). I
>didn't see who threw that puck, so this is only speculation. But did
>they really show on TV that it was *the Russians* that threw the puck
>in yesterday?

According to the newspapers it was somone in the crowd who throwed in an
extra puck.


>I don't blame the Swedes since I don't have the evidence but if this
>happens in every game they play...

>Maybe it is somebody among the spectators, a drunken Finn perhaps:)

More likely a drunken russki......


>-- 
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	Tomas
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From: maddya@utoday.com (Madelyn Ambery)
Subject: Re: New Anaheim team
Reply-To: maddya@utoday.com (Madelyn Ambery)
Organization: CMP Publications Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:15:19 GMT
Keywords: Anaheim, expansion


what about The Mighty ducks... for the Anaheim Team
From: cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL SCORING LEADERS THRU 12/13/92
Keywords: NHL SCORING LEADERS THRU 12/13/92
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:26:06 GMT
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada

In article <schuck.724446644@sfu.ca> Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes:
>tracyj@hall103.its.rpi.edu (Jeffrey Allan Tracy) writes:
>
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------- Award
>>SCORING               TEAM    GAMES  GOALS  ASSISTS  POINTS  +/-  PIM Predict.
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Mario Lemieux         Pitt     31     33      49       82     25   20 Hart, Art
>>Pat LaFontaine        Buff     31     22      33       55      2   33
>>Jari Kurri            L.A.     31     17      34       51     22   12


[other scorers left out for brevity's sake]


>
>You meant NHL Points Leaders right?
>
>You left out a bunch of the top scorers and left in a bunch of great passers.
>


You can SCORE a goal, or you can SCORE a point.
A high-scorer does *not* have to be a top goal-getter.

Check the papers;  they say 'scoring leaders', not "goal plus assist leaders"

Usually *I* get picky about such things, but even I wouldn't have
pointed this one out.


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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Droopy)
Subject: ECAC standings
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:50:19 GMT

Here are the recent Eastern COllege Athletic Conference hockey
standings, COURTESY OF BILL FENWICK OF CORNELL

Friday, 12/11:
     PRINCETON 5, Clarkson 4
     RPI 9, Union 3
     YALE 2, St. Lawrence 1
     COLGATE 14, Plattsburgh State 3 (NC)

Saturday, 12/12:
     Clarkson 4, YALE 4 (OT)
     St. Lawrence 6, PRINCETON 2
     Boston University 6, DARTMOUTH 3 (NC)

Sunday, 12/13:
     HARVARD 4, Vermont 0

ECAC standings as of 12/14/92:

                   League                       Overall
Team             W   L   T  Pts   GF   GA     W   L   T  Pts   GF   GA
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Harvard          8   0   1   17   41   22     8   1   1   17   44   26
Yale             5   1   2   12   40   27     5   4   2   12   47   40
RPI              5   2   0   10   29   18     6   2   2   14   39   26
St. Lawrence     5   3   0   10   30   18     8   3   1   17   55   33
Vermont          4   3   0    8   20   19     6   5   1   13   36   36
Brown            4   4   0    8   35   31     4   6   0    8   42   43
Princeton        3   5   0    6   28   39     5   5   0   10   39   41
Clarkson         2   4   2    6   33   26     5   5   2   12   60   32
Cornell          2   3   1    5   16   24     2   4   1    5   16   31
Dartmouth        1   4   0    2   11   21     1   6   0    2   15   35
Union            1   5   0    2   12   31     1   7   0    2   21   42
Colgate          0   6   0    0   18   37     2   8   1    5   45   52

The only action involving ECAC teams this weekend is Dartmouth's journey to
Harvard on December 18, and Princeton's participation in the Great Western
Freezeout on the 19th and 20th.
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: The Miami ???? vs the Anaheim ?????
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:56:40 GMT

In article <BzBKnu.J3v@encore.com> jlundy@bilbo.encore.com (Joe Lundy) writes:
>There is some local speculation on the name of the new team down here:
>
>The Miami Panthers
>
>This was a name that Huizenga favored for the baseball team, but couldn't use
>due to some conflict.
>
>As long as they don't use an abstract noun (Heat) I'll be happy.
>

Is the Florida panther black?

Gerald