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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Voting for ballot is under way; ballot provided; send to sarah@m
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 05:39:22 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

pcrossma@cs.ulowell.edu (Paul Crossman, The Gillrocker) writes:

- What's up here....someone have an inferiority complex here or what????

  Paul.  Where have you been for the last month or so?  I came up with a
 top-heavy idea, which should at least get us making waves as a community.

-
- Who is trying to create the Dr. Who  "cultural elite"?

  Point of MAJOR clarification here!! Dale Clayton had this worry as well.
The idea comes at a time when Doctor Who is popular, but is not being followed
due to Powellatus.  There is NO ATTEMPT AT ELITISM WHAT-SO-EVER!
A GROUP EFFORT has been called for.  NO egotrips ALLOWED.

-
- Dan Quayle doesn't read this group you know.....

 Who Dead Duck ??  are the readers of alt.fan.dan-quayle.  Mind you, I wonder
if he KNOWS HOW TO access internet, or READ a newsgroup!

-
- They always say, "If it's not broke, don't fix it."

 I had said improvements and advances!


-
- I would like whoever has the list of novels thing put in there to
- throw it away....I was never asked about this novel thing, and the general
- convention here seems to be that I do the novels....

   Calm Down Paul!!  A democratic vote is being carried out.  This is NOT a
dictatorship.  Usually the best way to resolve such a conflict you described,
is to is for all interested parties to e-mail each other and have a civilised
discussion.  take it easy!!

-
- Lets not turn into a bunch of trekkies here....Canon....<insert raspberry>.
-
  Dangerous statement time.  Trekkies??!!  Must we stoop to such levels??
All I believe is that we Whovians can do our show a favour if we offer such a
possible information structure.

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Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
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From: NG.LAY@forsythe.stanford.edu (Laurie Yadon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Colin Baker poll
Date: 9 Nov 1992 09:03:50 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
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In article <1dkoiaINNp83@cat.cis.Brown.EDU>,
ST101229@brownvm.brown.edu (Charon) writes:

> I wasn't too impressed by colin Baker either...

> I've seen mostly Davison and T.Baker, plus a bit of Pertwee, and
> Paradise Towers.  Colin Baker seemed very obnoxious and excessive

[several lines of material deleted]

> Colin Baker, on the other hand, seems to believe in the ends
> justify the means.

It seems to be time for my annual I-wish-people-would-learn-
to-refer-to-the-characters-rather-than-the-actors lecture!

Colin is a professional actor, was hired to play a role, and did so
THE WAY HE WAS INSTRUCTED TO.  It's obvious that you didn't like
the Sixth Doctor, buy why take it out on Colin himself -- or even
word your comments in such a way as to make it sound as if Colin,
personally, is an unpleasant person?  Of course, if you know
him personally and still feel compelled to make the statements
you did, so be it -- although I'd still debate you on them!  8-)

Laurie Yadon
Coordinator/Editor
The Baker Connection
Colin's official American fan club since 1987
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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: colin years
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:35:29 EST

If the "Missing Season" is ever released the way Shada was recently, it
might give more continuity to poor old Colin's Doctor.  He never had a
chance.  I recall Colin saying they'd heave to tear him out of the role
kicking and screaming, back when he first got it.

Like all good Doctors, he had become adept at predicting the future.  I
liked Colin Baker.  He was obnoxiously good fun.
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From: dro@dsbc.icl.co.uk (David Owen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Radio Times mentions Daemons
Keywords: recolourised repeat
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:01:21 GMT
Organization: ICL, Bracknell, Berkshire, RG12 4SN, UK

The new Radio Times has an article about the recolourisation of
"The Daemons" which starts repeating on Friday 20th November.

It's official, at last!
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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: sophie aldred's portrayal
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:23:46 EST

Re:  The Two Aces

Wicked!  While I am not an Ace hater, I love this idea.  This just
tickles the ribs...get on the phone to the BBC--NOW!--and tell them that
you have just the idea to bring the show back on!  Yes!

Now, you're going to need a plot, involving the Master, to hang this
on.......
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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Can't find New Adventures!
Date: 9 Nov 92 04:21:38 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls


             


No matter where I go or what I do, I cannot find a bookstore carrying
any of the New Adventures since "Revelation", nor can I find one that
can seem to mail order them!  

Thus, I ask you, what can I possibly do?

The ideal situation for me would be for someone to let me know what 
publisher or warehouse or whatever my Campus Bookstore should contact to
place an order for the New Adventures novels.
Failing that, could anyone tell me the name and address of a store near
_you_ that will do a mail order for me?


Steven.K.Manfred
From: 1-1@tardis.cojones.com (Peter W. Losher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: "Daleks taking over Earth" . . .
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:30:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: tardis.a4wwcp5


 Regarding Message : About the Cybermen...
 Written By        : sarah@micom.com (Sarah Menolly)

> I'm not sure, but I think it was McCoy in a previous episode that said the
> Cybermen conquered Earth in the 2200's.

     . . . McCoy said that the Daleks would take over the Earth in the 2200's
in "Rememberance of the Daleks" . . . 

Peter W. Losher
1-1@tardis.cojones.com

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From: B.J.Williams@newcastle.ac.uk (Barry Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Ace...is there a real life comparison?
Keywords: lkjhbkijgfkijgbkjb
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:39:13 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik) writes:


[LOADS of stuff edited]


>Everyone says that because of <insert argument here>, the show lasted 26
>years.  It lasted 26 years because People Loved It.  End of story.  Note
>that it ended soon after Ace arrived.

??????????

Is this guy for real?????

Is he really saying that it ended because Ace arrived??????

Well I'm convinced. :-)

Barry.
From: jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason)
Subject: Re: Yes, and CBS\Fox <BBC Video> . . .
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 02:20:37 GMT

1-1@tardis.cojones.com (Peter W. Losher) writes:

> Regarding Message : BLACKADDER = THE MASTER
> Written By        : doug.vermes%acc1bbs#ssr.com (Doug Vermes) #90 @5

                                                                                   
>                                   

>     . . . Spelled Nicola Bryant's character "Perry" in the US video release of
>"The Caves of Andrazoni" . . . :)

	 Dont worry - the mistake is also on the Uk release of caves, and is
	 just another in astring of BBC booobbooos.
	 Look for how many regenerations they claim the Doctor to have had
	 by this stage.......
	 The Earthshock video cover looks good by the way.
					   Jason.
>Peter W. Losher
>1-1@tardis.cojones.com

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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Subject: Re: City of Death
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:07:15 GMT

In <1992Nov11.184006.20227@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> paige@csri.toronto.edu (The Woodsman) writes:

>  Who, incidentally, owns the rights to publish *new* DW novelizations? Is it
> still Target, or have they moved on to Virgin? I would think if Target was
> still involved (they're notorious cheapskates), Mr. Adams has a point.

Virgin has taken over Target, so it's all the same now.

>  Speaking of novelizations, any word on when John Peel's version of Evil
> and Power of the Daleks will be released?

Next June.

Daniel.
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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: Seventh Doc Quality
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:52:02 GMT

c8643631@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Mr Flibble) writes:
>I liked Ace because she had real human emotions. She hurt. She cared. She had
>the impulsiveness of teenagers. She had guts. Sophie Alred is a good actress.
>The character was given depth. She was anti-ractist (and too many kids I know
>are racist, even if they wouldn't consider themselves so). She lived in a world
>of broken families, firebombed flats, rock music. I can forgive the Nitro-9.
>It's just one element of the girl (and not the most important, even if the
>most obvious). And she got really annoyed with the Doctor. 

>Nobody I know hates her. My 14-year-old niece only watches post-Tom Baker 
>stories that have Ace in them. So she appealed to some.

To me Ace isn't real b'cse of her reactions to things.  For example, she is 
supposed to be human and yet when she sees Daleks or other creatures whom she 
encounters for the first time, she hardly shows any fear.   This to me is 
unrealistic.  The Doctor has dealt with these creatures for many centuries,
he may not feel fear though maybe a certain level of concern.  Although even 
that was minimized trying to get a darker side on the Doctor (with Sylvester).
Also the scene in Silver Nemisis where she is attacking the Cybermen and
defeating them (as well as in Remembrance of the D.) is unrealistic also - 
Omega charged bat or not.  Her realism lies in her emotions, but definately
not in her reactions (IMHO).  Quite frankly if I want to see emotion, I would
rather see Tegan.  Although she just displays them - and doesn't confront/
solve some hidden skeletons in her closet.  But as I said before, I like to
watch the program for a conflict involving the Doctor and not a mere
companion of his.  I actually wouldn't mind Ace at all, if the future episodes 
after survival would have dealt with the Doctor solely (and perhaps worked
on increasing the menace that the Master used to be!).  Truthfully that is the
way they might have headed.  Survival showed the Doctor ignoring Ace alot in
the beginning when he became fascinated by the black cat!

Again I repeat that Ace isn't my worst, so I am not flaming against her in 
any way.  Just sharing what I think/felt from her.

		Mystic
(alex.soto@analog.com)
From: 1-1@tardis.cojones.com (Peter W. Losher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: "Smegging News"???
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:27:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: tardis.a3wwcp5


 Regarding Message : Re: DW in Radio Times to plug UK Gold
 Written By        : isgwillim@bra.isnet.inmos.co.uk

>       There will be NO documentries, NO current affairs and NO SMEGGING
> NEWS.

     . . . Smegging eh'? . . . This should be in the rec.arts.scifi under "Red
Dwarf" eh' ??? <smile!> . . .

Peter W. Losher
1-1@tardis.cojones.com

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From: SBARNETT@tattoo.cs.widener.edu (Scott Barnett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: McCoy and Ace #2
Date: 9 Nov 1992 00:59:03 GMT
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Hi everyone,
   Sorry about the previous post.  
   What I meant to post was the I have to agree with person who said that they
like Ace.  Personally, I think that the seventh doctor (Sylvestor McCoy) and
Ace were the best Doctor and Companion.  I also think that the last season was
the best.  Too bad BBS is no longer producing it any more.  <sigh>
Again, my apologies about just sending my sig and nothing else.



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From: G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Voting for ballot is under way; ballot provided; send to sarah@m
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:04:40 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:

>- Dan Quayle doesn't read this group you know.....

> Who Dead Duck ??  are the readers of alt.fan.dan-quayle.  Mind you, I wonder
>if he KNOWS HOW TO access internet, or READ a newsgroup!

 Can Dan Quayle READ???????  :-)
Well maybe something in which the main character is a dog called Ben.

Gareth

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From: quiz@nemesis.UUCP
Date: 04 Nov 92 18:27 CST
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Subject: Quiz 9 - Dr. Who Quote Quiz
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--------------------   Quiz  9  -  1st  Posting   -------------------------
Division A	

1.	"You haven't solved it, have you?  Your machines have a limited
	 lifespan.  Sooner or later they're going to be useless."


2.	___________ congratulated the Doctor on his performance so far.  Not
	bad, The Doctor could be even be an excellent dictator on one of the
	conquered worlds.  But despite all that he had done, The Doctor could
	not be trusted.  He would have to be monitored carefully to make sure
	his loyalty didn't waver for an instant.  If it did, he would be
	destroyed.
	(Refer to the quiz instructions on how to answer this question.)


3.	"Upper level.  Watch out for the Muts."


4.	"I would have taken you to the Eye of Orion, but, uh, the
	 coordinates elude me at the moment."


5.	"Capsules they may be, but don't touch them until this closes
	 between us."


6.	"Haven't you a ring you can rub?  A magic lamp?  Something for
	 these sort of emergencies?"


Hint for Division A:	We see them from time to time, but in these cases,
			not the same ones


Division B
1.	"Look Edward, I admit we've had a number of technical setbacks.  Mine
	 is not an easy job, you know.  Our problems can only be solved by
	 scientists, not by security men."


2.	"Your UNIT friends are transporting a nuclear missile.  I intend
	 to take it away from them."


3.	"Yates, get out of it man, it's a bomb!  It's a bomb!  Get out of
	 it, Yates!"

Hint for Division B:	Long stories

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From: otten@quark.umd.edu (Neil Ottenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Off-screen adventures
Date: 9 Nov 92 01:40:28 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

I just watched Frontier in Space and therein was mentioned a previous
adventure of the Doctor where he helped The Draconians 500 years
previous to the time of the story.  Is this one of the off-screen
previous adventures?  Is there a list somewhere of all the adventures
that have been mentioned as happening, but never took place on-screen
such as this (if it is the case), the Pertwee reference in Colin Baker's
"Timelash" story, and others.  If not, would any qualified people care
to put together such a list including the story which refers to the
previous adventure and any details about it which are revealed.

Onward>>>
	Neil Ottenstein
	otten@quark.umd.edu

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From: nsmith@tms390.micro.ti.com (Neal Smith)
Subject: Limits on TARDIS travel (Was Re: The Doctor is...)
Organization: Texas Instruments, Houston
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:22:48 GMT

as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik) writes:

>Now I suppose you'll tell me that in a later incarnation, the Doc went back
>in time and became Rassilon, in a sort of historical fulfillment thing. 
>However, the TARDIS does have limits on its travel, and *cannot* function
>before a certain point in time.

There's at least one episode contradicting this... in _Castrovalva_, the
Master sends the TARDIS back to "Event One, the hydrogen inrush", i.e.,
the Big Bang, the start of time.  I would assume, if this is the start
of the universe, that it is before the Gallifreyans/Time Lords [no, I'm
not interested in continuing the Gallifreyan vs. Time Lord flamewar 
from Hell] invented time travel, so it doesn't seem to have a limit in
this direction.

Speaking of this event, after seeing Terminus I had to wonder why they
didn't notice the ejected fuel tank from Terminus heading back in space/time
towards the point they were headed for. =)

>Drewcifer

By the way, I liked Ace, but I don't think that means that everyone should
like Ace.

>"If he treats you horribly he's probably a Scorpio"--Robyn Hitchcock

Sounds about right; wasn't Scorpio a type of car made by Ford?  I know my
Ford treats me horribly...

- Neal
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From: jblum@next00clab.wam.umd.edu (The Maven)
Subject: Re: The Doctor is...
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:49:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.191129.20401@yang.earlham.edu> marcs@yang.earlham.edu  
(Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt)) writes:
> Actually according to the the to the twenty  one hundreth Doctor's 
> special, everyone in the universe is acctually a regeneration of the 
> Doctor. :-)

That's it!  That's who the Doctor really is!  He's...

SHIRLEY MACLAINE!


(yes, this joke was recycled from about a year ago.  What the heck, I'm
environmentally conscious.  And since this whole debate is recycled
anyway...  :-)
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From: jblum@next00clab.wam.umd.edu (The Maven)
Subject: Re: The Doctor is...
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:48:06 GMT

In article <9NOV199210420461@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>  
doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller) writes:
> In article <1992Nov9.064626.12528@wam.umd.edu>,  
mrmuon@next01cville.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes...
> >Oh what the Hell,
> >My theory:
> >The Doctor is not Rassilon, Omega, or anyone from ancient Gallifrey.
> >However The Hermit / Cho'Je Rimpoche / K'anpo is in fact "the other".  
He  
> >lived out his exeedingly extended life in seclusion in the mountains of  
> >southern Gallifrey and trained the Doctor into his exceptional skills  
> >knowing that this would lead him into the life which the Doctor  
eventually  
> >leads. The Doctor is thus the chosen successor of the knowledge of  
ancient  
> >Gallifrey.
> >As I say, a theory. (This is badly written 'cause I don't feel like  
> >fussing)


> 	Very good theory though.  If we're going to take Aaronovitch's
> novelization of "Remembrance" as canon (and that's impossible, because  
he
> totally butchers the origins of UNIT

Hmm?  If you're thinking that it contradicts "Web of Fear" / "Invasion",
perhaps the British military in Web was Gilmore's special force,
which later got subsumed into the UN organization.  I don't think that
contradicts any of Kadiatu Lethbridge-Stewart's history books...

>, but for the sake of this group,
> we will), he says that the 3rd Time Lord in those flashback scenes would
> be forgotten in the future.  The Doctor was obviously never forgotten;
> however, K'Anpo was ... he just moved to Earth and flirted with Sarah  
Jane.
> Since he was the Doctor's guru, that's a very good idea.

Question.  Did they actually state in "Planet of the Spiders" that
K'Anpo was THE hermit of song and story?  The only time that the hermit
appears as himself is in "Timewyrm: Revelation", and in that one, he
has one eye.  Maybe this can be explained away by regeneration, but
I'd just like to know what's official.
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From: schatzj@WTFD.ORST.EDU (Jeremy Schatz)
Subject: Movie
Organization: Weatherford Hall, Oregon State U.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:11:35 GMT

    This is my first time posting her , so please excuse any mistakes.
    
    I was wondering what was going on with the Dr  movie that is being
    produced in America. Is this still happening? And does anyone know when
    it will be released.
    
	 Thank You e