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From: Gerald.Bliss@f281.n120.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Denver Filkers Anon.
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 29 Sep 92  21:39:00

From The Denver Filk Digest (The Newsletter of the Denver Filkers 
Anonymous) Raoul I. Benefiche, editor-in-chief: 
 
The October Meeting [of DFA] is still scheduled for Columbus, Ohio.  It 
will be in my hotel room, at a time to be announced. 
 
********************************* 
 
I'll be there!  If I get any sleep, it will probably be in that very 
room! 
 
Spectacular new find Steve Macdonald of Kalamazoo, MI will also be 
rooming with St. Iggy and I.  Look for us! 
 
... OFFLINE 1.40 * The Golden Age of Science Fiction is 12. 

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From: klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Peter Lorre
Date: 5 Oct 92 04:19:42 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University College of Stunt Piloting

I _need_ the lyrics to "I Want to Grow Up to be Peter Lorre"...

...because I do!

`
-- 
Jeff Klein             | "Happily, Ral doffs his outer clothing for a
Browsing Boy of the LNH|  refreshing dip in one of the dangerous 
klein@frith.egr.msu.edu|  chemical vats." - Ty Templeton 
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: moochie@camelot.bradley.edu (Melissa Koontz)
Subject: Jewish Music
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:11:44 GMT


   I had seen the posting on jewish music and attempted to reply
asking for information on where I could find some sheet music or such
for anything from piano, to flute, recorder, or dulcimer.  If anyone
might have information on such, could you please mail me at

   moochie@camelot.bradley.edu

    Thank you,

       Melissa Koontz

--
   Wishing I could hear your voice again...
   knowing that I never would...
   Dreaming of you won't help me to do,
   all tht you dreamed I could...
					- Phantom of the Opera 
moochie@camelot.bradley.edu             Adelind von Rosenberg
From: Glendon.Todd@f68.n128.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Lutes
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 23 Sep 92  15:59:00

KS-->On <Sep 14 11:38>, nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman) wrote to
Al

KS--> JB>Speaking of filksongs set to the tune of Waltzing Matilda...

KS--> JB>I'm looking for the words to a song called "You Fight the Balrog"
KS--> JB>set to
KS--> JB>that particular tune.  If anyone has it, E-Mail me or post it,
KS--> JB>please???

KS-->Sounds like "You Bash the Balrog" by Lee Gold.  It's been published in a
KS-->number of filk books - I'll ask her if I can send you an e-mail copy or
po
KS-->it.

KS-->ALL - "You Bash The Balrog" is copyright - do NOT post unless Lee gives
KS-->permission.

KS-->..You bash the balrog while I climb the tree...


It's in one of the Westerfilk books - unfortunately I don't remember
which one.
                                              Slainte,
                                                        Glen
 * OLX 2.2 * Blood is thicker than water - also tastier...
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From: Chris.Peters@f50.n272.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Recorded Filk Songs
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 26 Sep 92  01:33:00

 > Kay has a nice canned file on this--all the dealers &
 > producers you
 > could ask for.
 > Kay? Can you help this gentle?


Mary,
  I thank you for the swift reply.  Kay I guess it comes to you again.  Thank 
you for your help.  As always it is much appreciated.
                                                       C.P.
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From: Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Mongolian birthday song
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 02 Oct 92  20:33:00

In a message to All <09-29-92 14:16> Kim Dyer wrote:

KD>      The <stomp>s can be replaced by banging LOUDLY on the tables
KD>      if this is sung in a bar.  Pounding must be enthusiastic
KD>      enough that the glasses on the table threaten to fall off.

We had a birthday party for an SCA notable in a Farrel's here (the "original" 
Farrell's in fact). As usual they did the bit with the drum and whatnot and
having everyone sing Happy Birthday. We asked them if they'd mind staying
while we did *our* version, as the druum would be useful. At their blank looks 
we said "you'll know when..."

Then we launched into "Volga Birthday".... <grin>  
 
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From: baj@acfcluster.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Trying to find a Song
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:28:44 GMT
Organization: New York University

Does anyone have the words to the "Barbarian Birthday Song"?  It's a
dirge like song, popular among the SCA (At least in the east) but I don't know
anyone who has the words.

Thanks!

        Barbara
From: Mike.Liebmann@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Klezmer Music??
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 26 Sep 92  08:23:23

Which groups you listening to, Deborah? 

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From: Sherman.Dorn@p3.f10.n273.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Limericks and Mothers (was: Re: Poetry slams)
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 28 Sep 92  08:37:07

On <24 Sep 92  23:03>, Christina Callihan scribbled the following to All:

 CC> From: uc-chan@mcl.ucsb.edu (Christina Callihan)

 CC> Oh, heck with it.  :) 

 CC> At a pond 3 miles southwest of Lubbock
 CC> Your mom would take cow pies and huck.
 CC> Though they bounced eighteen times,
 CC> Mummy still changed her mind
 CC> and she picked up some sheep dip to chuck.
 CC> Ai, ai, ai, ai ....  Your mother whims after poop skips.....

Sick, definitely sick, but my brother and family who lived several years in
Lubbock might appreciate it.
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From: Glendon.Todd@f68.n128.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Conversation
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 23 Sep 92  16:11:00

KE-->Good for you!  As for the tune:  Don't you recognize "Happy Birthday"
when
KE-->you see it?

Of course, particularly the wonderful version sung to the tune of 'The
Volga Boatman'.
 * OLX 2.2 * Outlaw junk mail, and save the trees!
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From: Mike.Liebmann@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Jewish Music
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 27 Sep 92  08:45:32

You want to WHAT when you hear a Klezmer band?  I didn't really the music was 
so sultry.  THIS I'd like to see.
 
A touch of Klez, anyvun? 

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From: Beth.Friedman@p5.f341.n282.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Limericks and Mothers (was: Re: Poetry slams)
Date: 24 Sep 92 19:40:54 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992


 KS> :  The only verse I remember any parts of is pretty 
 KS> innocuous: 
 KS> : 
 KS> : "Your mother's a great fan of Niven
 KS> : In his Known Space series she's livin'
 KS> : (something; forget the line) 
 KS> : And she also plays Bridge
 KS> : And to mixing the two she is given."
 KS> : 
 KS> : chorus "Ai, yi, yi yi... Your mother upbids in Jump 
KS> Shifts. (and I've forgotten all the rest)" 

Good heavens!  I wrote that verse, but I didn't know it ever got past
Minneapolis.  It goes:

     Your mother's a great fan of Niven
     His Hole in Space series she's livin'
     Bridge also amuses her
     Although it confuses her
     And to mixing the two she is given

     Ay, yi, yi, yi, your mother bids after jump shifts . . .

That's from the Alter Troop Ship song (so called because most of the verses
are lead to variants on "your mother swims after troop ships") started by Nate 
Bucklin and continued by much of Minn-stf and others, no 
doubt.

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From: Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Unending songs
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 29 Sep 92  06:40:00

Another entry for the "songs that never end" bit...

"Aleph-null bottles of bheer on the wall..."

(math joke for those of you who don't get it...)  
 
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From: Kihe.Blackeagle@p4003.f6224.n124.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Trying to find a Song
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:26:43 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992


 U> Does anyone have the words to the "Barbarian Birthday Song"?  It's a
 U> dirge like song, popular among the SCA (At least in the 
 U> east) but I don't know
 U> anyone who has the words.

Ya mean *this* one? (There *may* be more versicles floating around out there, 
somewhere... these things tend to grow, like ROTR and the "troopship" ditty!)

 (Tune: Song of the Volga Boatmen)
 Happy Birthday <grunt!>
 Happy Birthday <grunt!>
 Famine, fear, fire and flood
 On your Birthday <grunt!>

 Happy Birthday <grunt!>
 Happy Birthday <grunt!>
 Can't keep your face out of the mud
 On your Birthday <grunt!>

(I have occasionally heard an additional line sandwiched in after, or even
before, the "Famine" line.)

Pax ... Kihe

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Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: dickeney@access.digex.com (Dick Eney)
Subject: Bardic Wish List
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 00:05:41 GMT

Tamar Lindsay and I [Dick Eney] have offered to help Crystal Hegel
with the filking arrangements at PhilCon and hope to do something
of the sort at Darkovercon...and after that we'll see, supposing
these turn out well.  

On the way back from MagiCon we thought of a list of items that
might come in handy; some for PhilCon, some maybe for a future con
of larger size or stronger filk orientation.  However, we are
fairly similar in our approach to things like this.  I'd like to
get some feedback from other filkers about:
 
STUFF THAT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE OR ARRANGE 
FOR A FILKING SESSION AT A CON

I. Things to have there, or handy
  
 Filk notice board
 Drinks other than water
    Coffee, tea -- at least hot water & instant
    Sodas (canned)
Nosh other than chips & cheezpuffs
Batteries and blank tapes for sale (cost+)
   (Good quality ones, not junkers.  Suggest brands?)
Music stands (one or two, at least)
Bungee cord guitar/instrument supports
A copier for use in lyric-swapping
Lender capos and picks
Extension cords (20 ft or so)
Some kind of clips to hold microphones to chair-backs
   so they won't have to take their chances on the floor

II. Things that ought to be set up beforehand

Entries in pocket program
Postings for the con on BBS (like this one)
A sign-up board for one-shot or challenge filking
Rearrangement of seats if we get rooms that are too "imposing"
   (i.e. formal or arranged for audience performance rather than  
   Bardic or anarchic Circle.)
Rewards for filk gopher volunteers.

III. Things to consider setting up some time in the future
     (with advance warning...)

Topical evenings or themes
Suggestion box for requesting specific songs
Arrangements to swap dubbings from different sessions
Tradeoff arrangements for lyrics 
   (apart from the swapping that usually happens at a filk session)
A verse-capping game for hardy souls.
   (Think "Old Time Religion" with no topics barred...)
Entry-level filk book/guidebook

If half of this stuff actually manifests I'll think we are doing
well.  While all of it can be justified one way or another, some is
a lot of trouble and might not be worth it if few people are going
to be interested in using it.  Other items are good in the
abstract, but might give a lot of filkers the impression of being
Too Damned Organized.  (Tamar and I aren't bothered by this, but I
know it is otherwise with lotsa fans, so it's better to get outside
opinions.)

What I would like to get from anybody interested in replying is,
first, what you think of category I, stuff it would be nice to have
right at the filksing, and then, if you're interested enough,
comments on the other two categories, especially stuff we forgot.
From: jil@linus.mitre.org (Jon Leivent)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: A filk!
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:36:38 GMT
Organization: Research Computer Facility, The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA


Mary possessed a juvenile Ovis aries
a juvenile Ovis aries, a juvenile Ovis aries
Mary possessed a juvenile Ovis aries
with albinotic keratin resembling crystallized dew

And concurrent with Mary's peregrinations
with Mary's peregrinations, with Mary's peregrinations
And concurrent with Mary's peregrinations
the juvenile Ovis aries would incontrovertibly pursue


-- Jon Leivent
From: Deborah.Weiss@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Jewish Music
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 26 Sep 92  16:50:58

IL> Klezmer music makes me want to strip naked and dance.  I IL> love it
 
Gosh, I wonder what would happen if you ever attended a klezmer music
festival.  They do occur occasionally.
 
On the other hand, catch me at a con sometime & let's play Klezmer at each
other & see what happens  ;-)


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Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: steve@Advansoft.COM (Steve Savitzky)
Subject: Re: Another Guitar Question...
Organization: Advansoft Research Corp, Santa Clara, CA
	<1992Sep26.233420.1903@spuddy.uucp>
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:55:54

In article <MekpNwy00WA7Mc4aAp@andrew.cmu.edu> eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eli Brian Goldberg) writes:
>Okay, so I'm rolling along and playing things Leslie Fish-style, or at least
>I'm carrying the melody line through the chord sequence.  Now, I'd normally
>do that with my thumb, at least on the bottom 2 (or 3) strings.  But,
>Leslie mentioned something about going over to ones forefingers when doing
>the top 3 strings, which makes complete sense given the way it sounds like
>when one doesn't... ;-)
>
>...but how on earth does one do it?  The top three fingers are normally being
>used to maintain the fingerpicking pattern; how is it maintained if the
>fingers are being used for doing the melody?

There are really three answers, depending on whether you are
strumming, arpeggiating, or really fingerpicking.  

General note: 

  In *all* cases, you have the option of either varying the pattern to
  fit the melody, or varying the melody to fit the pattern (which
  usually involves shifting where a note falls relative to the beat).

Strumming:

  You're going along sweeping the thumb and/or fingers up and/or down
  across some subset of the strings.  Usually the thumb goes down
  (toward higher notes), and the fingers go up or up/down/up.  (You
  can also do this with a flatpick.)  When the melody is on the E, A,
  or D string, hit it on the way down.  When it's on the G, B, or E
  string, hit it on the way up.

Arpeggiating:

  This usually involves playing the strings in some set order.
  Usually the best thing is to just keep doing that, secure in the
  knowledge that if you're playing the right chord, the melody notes
  will be in there someplace.

  An alternative is to switch patterns to follow the melody; this
  technique is commonly used in bluegrass banjo styles.

Fingerpicking

  My fingerpicking style tends to be pretty loose; it normally
  involves playing a bass line with the thumb and the melody with the
  (first one or two) fingers.  I will usually vary the sequence all
  over the map to get the melody to come out in the right order, but I
  don't (usually) worry about exactly where it comes relative to the
  beat (i.e. I keep up the general alternation between thumb and
  finger). 

General note for 12-string guitars:
  
  If you're playing 12-string (as Leslie does), note that the melody
  sounds like hell if you shift it onto or off of the B and E strings,
  because they aren't octaved like the others.  In this case you're
  better off leaving the melody on the low strings and shifting down
  an octave, taking advantage of the pitch ambiguity of the octaved
  strings.

 
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 \ steve@advansoft.COM \ San Jose, CA 95128 \ Presently seeking employment:
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From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Bardic newsletter
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 27 Sep 92  01:28:42

 DA> And maybe you could submit it electronically to the Internet Bardic
 DA> mailing list... which has been nearly dead for quite some time...? 

 AC>    I, unfortionatly, do not have internet in my area.

So link into the BARDIC echo (available here and a few more places) and submit 
it that way.  Let's take this and any further inquiries to netmail, before we 
get kabonged - but do it QUICKLY, as I leave for at least two months out of
town at the end of this week!


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From: Donald.Erkfitz@f9023.n6002.z87.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: conversation
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 27 Sep 92  08:15:00

 -=> Quoting Kettlingurr to Donald Erkfitz <=-

 DE> ... Guerrilla Goodness! Start with 1 random act of kindness

 Ke> LOL!  I loved this one, so I stole it.  Is it an original of yours?
No see tagline below {g}.

... I use only original taglines -- they originate elsewhere.
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From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Mongolian birthday song
Date: 30 Sep 1992 23:40:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer) says:

>
>>Sorry, but I don't think the tune is "Volga Boatman", after all... at least, fo
>>any permutation of THESE sets of lyrics. The only part that comes anywhere
>>NEAR to scanning is the "Happy Birthday <<stomp>>"... and with the "Volga Boatm
>>melody, that would be the _first_ two lines, an intermediate single line, then
>>gain on the last. The "words" for "Volga" that I remember, from an old
>>no comments from the peanut gallery!!) beginning piano book are:
>
>Scans the way WE sang it.  Of course ... ANYTHING scans with enough
>alcohol in you. ;-)
>

No, you get enough alcohol in you and you THINK it scans... those of us who 
stay sober through the filk all know better! <<grin>>

The version mentioned uptopic, with identical first, second, and fourth lines, 
_does_ fit, however.

Are you sure you're using "Volga Boatmen"?

-- 
 Joe Ellis  o/~ The Synthetic Filker o/~    |     TesserAct Studios
     Internet:   usr6184a@tso.uc.edu        |       P.O. Box 18577
        GEnie:   J.ELLIS22                  |     Fairfield, OH 45018
    All filked up and no place to sing!     |   New Dimensions In Filk!
From: Rick.Ellis@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Who we are
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992
Date: 27 Sep 92  18:57:22

On <Sep 25 18:57> Kay Shapero writes:

 KS> Just finished making up the following for the Filking Times, and though 
 KS> you folks might like to see it.  It is NOT a complete list of FIDOnodes 
 KS> carrying FILK, it's just a list complied from the origins line of the 271 

 KS> messages that happened to be on the Aerie today.  Anyway, here they are - 

 KS> all nodes are in zone 1.  They're in node number order - made it easier 
 KS> to look them up in the nodelist.

 KS> 102/524  StormGate Aerie         (310)827-3952 Los Angeles  CA    
 KS> 105/51   Shadowshack             (503)230-1356 Portland OR        

Hmmpf!

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From: jil@linus.mitre.org (Jon Leivent)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Re: Unending songs
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:47:09 GMT
Organization: Research Computer Facility, The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA

In article <BvFoo7.I63@cs.columbia.edu> carson@cs.columbia.edu (Carson A. Gaspar) writes:

>   And, if you're _really_ a math weinie:
>
>   Aleph-one bottles...
>   Take Aleph-naught down...
>   Aleph-one bottles...


And, for the _TOTAL_ math nut:

Aleph-one bottles of beer on the wall
Aleph-one bottles of beer
If a countable number should happen to fall
By diagonalization, we still have them all!



-- Jon Leivent
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: steve-b@access.digex.com (Steve Brinich)
Subject: Re: Computer filks
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:08:56 GMT

  Speaking of computer songs reminds me of an item I saw in John Dvorak's
"Inside Track" column in the June 30, 1992 "PC Magazine":

     "...The constant feud between IBM and Microsoft continues unabated.
   IBM threw a private bash where the theme was Karaoke singalongs.  A slew
   of custom-written, derogatory, anti-Windows songs were showcased.  Many
   attendees were aghast."

  Unfortunately, this is all I know about the matter.  I wish I at least knew
whether the "aghast" attendees were reacting to something which was truly
lousy, mean-spirited material or whether they were merely stuffed shirts
who couldn't handle an unexpected agitprop/filksing.  ;-)
From: Rick.Ellis@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Who we are
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Oct  1 1992
Date: 01 Oct 92  17:27:14

On <Sep 29 17:27> Kay Shapero writes:

 KS> I left you off because I wasn't sure if you made the echo available to 
 KS> callers, or simply read it and passed it on yourself. Do you?

It's available.  (But it may get lost in the crowd)

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Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: carson@cs.columbia.edu (Carson A. Gaspar)
Subject: Re: A filk!
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:35:29 GMT


Well, along the the lines of the (wonderful!) arachnid song, an oldie
but goodie (sources, anyone?):

Propel, propel, propel your craft
Swiftly through liquid solution
Ecstatically, ecstatically, ecstatically
Existance is but an illusion


-- 
			    Carson Gaspar
			carson@cs.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: rnakkula@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robin J Nakkula)
Subject: Re: Computer filks
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 15:30:16 GMT

In article <STEVE.92Sep23095007@diana.Advansoft.COM> steve@Advansoft.COM (Steve Savitzky) writes:
>In article <kr7n_!l.rhiannon@netcom.com> rhiannon@netcom.com (The Lady R) writes:
>
>  Is there a collection of computer-related filks available, similar to
>  the "Memory" one posted yesterday?  I've seen a few, but no collections.
>
>I kind of recommend "The Funniest Computer Songs", a tape available
>from Vince Emery Productions or most filk dealers.  (Of course, I
>recommend it because I get royalties for three of my songs on it.)
>
>\ --Steve Savitzky--  \    343 Leigh Ave   \ Object-oriented software wizard

I also sell this tape by snail-mail, for those who aren't getting to a
huckster table in the forseeable future.  Price is US$9.00 + $2.50 S&H;
preferred way to do this is to e-mail me  at
           rnakkula@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
that you are sending a check and your snailmail address to
          Robin Nakkula (or Alan Dormire)
          P.O.Box 14796
          Columbus  OH 43214-0796

(I also sell most of the rest of the Wail Songs catalog; e-mail with a specific
request and I can tell you if it's in stock.)

@@@---Robin Nakkula