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From: curtis@eos.ncsu.edu 
Subject: INFO! Btech, Po-Mo...
Originator: curtis@c00090-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: curtis@eos.ncsu.edu 
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:23:08 GMT


Hi.  I'm doing a research/thesis project on popular culture concerning gaming 
based around the FASA Battletech gaming system and all of the associated
media/materials/systems that surround it.  Any information 
concerning:

	The VR battletech,
	Battletech MUDS, etc,
	GENIE's new Btech simulator game,
	Battletech newletters, groups, etc,
	Anything concerning the Btech novelizations,	
	Any battletech software/shareware,
	FTP sites, 
	resource listings, 
	newsgroups,
	and anything related that comes to mind

would be excellent.  Thankyou.

curtis@eos.ncsu.edu
--
From: bp167@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert E. Deneefe)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Thanks!
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:26:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I just wanted to say thanks to the many responses I got from
my first post (an Ultima 7 question) in this group.  Man, if I
had had such a forum back when I was trying to solve Wizardry 1
on my Apple //e maybe it wouldn't have taken me so long. :)

 Robert
From: rwr@po.CWRU.Edu (Robert W. Rutkowski)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Wizardry 7...savant--questions.
Date: 7 Nov 1992 03:09:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Folks,
 
        Wizardry 7 is a good game, but I'm a bit 
frustrated by a couple of things.  First, when I 
called their recorded game hints, they mentioned a 
map of the lands presumably contained in the box.  
I have no such map.
 
Does anyone have a digitized version?
 
Also, I can't find the underground temple where 
the Holywork is located.  I've found an 
underground area nearby, but it has one of those 
metal doors that you can't pick and I don't have 
a key.  I'm not sure this is the right place 
anyway.  
 
What would really make the game better would be a 
better means of travel, like flying or 
teleporting.  What is that moonstone for anyway?

I'm interested in e-mail conversation concerning this game.

-- 
-R
From: bradleah@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (II Andrew Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: MechWarrior questions.
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:53:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: bradleah@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (II Andrew Bradley)
NNTP-Posting-Host: l130b8.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

> In article <Bx7orL.7F3@acsu.buffalo.edu> mfcdbarn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu  
(Darryl K. Barnes) writes:
> >    Has anybody heard of a game called MechWar for IBM MSDOS.  Is it
> >the same thing as MechWarrior or something totally different.  


	I have heard of MechWar, but I do not know if it is like  
MechWarrior or not by not having played it.  If you want to know more  
about it then read the articles about it in  rec.games.board because the  
designer is just recently posting articles about a new version to be made.   
Or you could send mail to the designer, but you will need to read one of  
his posts because I do not know his e-mail address off-hand.

				See Ya,
					Andy Bradley 
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: mbassino@malloco.Ing.puc.cl (mbassino)
Subject: Re: Help! For Larry 3 players! I want know locker combination.
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:54:16 GMT

	try with " read the back of the card "      :)

			mbassino@malloco.ing.puc.cl

Organization: Sophomore, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 21:05:06 -0500 
From: "Derrick J. Brashear" <db74+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Reply-To: nm17@andrew.cmu.edu
Subject: Monkey Island 1

My roommate is looking for hints for Monkey Island 1. I've you've got
any, email him: nm17@andrew.cmu.edu
Don't respond to me.

Thanks,
-D
From: dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com (Danny Low)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:02:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Wizardry 7...savant--questions.
Organization: HP LOVECRAFT DIVISION
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc

>(Robert W. Rutkowski) 
>Also, I can't find the underground temple where 
>the Holywork is located. ... What is that moonstone for anyway?

This is one half of the answer to your question.

			   Danny Low
    "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You"
	   Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley
	     HP CPCD   dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com
From: 00jdbecktel@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: MANIAC MANSION ??
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:08:26 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <mac.76@ur.utk.edu>, mac@ur.utk.edu (Richard J. McDougald) writes:
> Need help with Maniac Mansion (Lucasfilms Games)  I bought it, but didn't
> buy the (pricey) hint book.  Have tried every combination of kids and still
> can't finish the damn thing.  Can't find any FTP solutions for it either.
> I need to get on with my life.  Anybody played it to completion?  Help !!

I had the game for Commodore 64 and solved it 3 different ways. Email me
for questions if you wish. I would be more the happy to try to RECALL how
I solved it.
You can use:
Wendy, Bernard, (You always need bernard to do the fixing), and a musician
if you want.
Wendy can publish the manuscript, or a musician can publish a recording
contract.
I still can't get MIchael to develop anything. Weird Ed doesn't want
the pictures.
So I've seen 3 endings. Dave saves his girl, or Wendy gives a publishing
contract to the meteor, (he gets on a talk show) or ...I can't think
of the other one.

>             
-- 
      SSSS       
     SS   S        
     SS           
      SSS    
        SS       
	SS	   
   S   SS         	 00jdbecktel@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
    SSS  herlock   	 sherlock@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
From: EXD108@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Planets Edge
Date: 8 Nov 92 02:18:23 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


   I am stuck in this game.... What do you need to do on the Cruise ship in the
 Algiebo sector. I am stuck on it and can not teleport off of it.

                                         Any help would be appreciated

                                       EXD108@psuvm
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: pgeltner@netcon.smc.edu (Peter Geltner)
Subject: Re: startrek 25th anniv
Organization: Santa Monica College, Santa Monica, CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:24:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.204122.36081@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> rsj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ROBERT STEPHEN JOHNSON) writes:
>hey you computer people, can anyone out there tell me how to turn off the
>moving people on the bridge?(disable the animation)  i'd appreciate any info
>reguarding the previous question.

Turning off your computer should work OK.  Exiting the game is also rumored
to work.
-- 

Peter Geltner   Administrative Dean of Computing
                Santa Monica College
                Santa Monica, California 90405
From: technews@iitmax.iit.edu (Kevin Kadow)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Shareware MODEM games (mega255,sopwith2, ?)
Summary: does anybody know how to get a multi-player version of sopwith
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:56:10 GMT
Organization: Technology News, IIT, Chicago, IL


	I have several versions of SOPWITH from COMPUSCIENCE for the IBM PC,
all of which list a multi-player mode, and none of which work in multi-player.

	With the most recent one (sopwith2.exe) when I try to use the
"two players over asyncronous serial link" it returns:

	NAMEDEV not found

after crashing back to DOS...

Can anybody suggest a fix, solution, or other modem games to try?

-- 
               Life is like a boring, pointless analogy.

technews@iitmax.iit.edu                           kadokev@harpo.iit.edu
                         My Employer Disagrees.
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
From: psun@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter C. Sun)
Subject: Diamond Stealth, Ultima VI (misc games) & Graphics Speed
Keywords: Diamond Stealth, Ultima, Graphics Speed
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 09:33:38 GMT


I recently purchased a Diamond Stealth video card and marvel at its
lightning speed when displaying video from windows 3.1.

I understand that this comes from the drivers I installed which utilizes
functions of the extraordinarty S3 graphics chip on the Diamond Stealth.

I've played Ultima VII on a friends computer and am lead to believe that
a great deal of speed is lost in displaying the graphics.

So my question and proposition is... Is there anyone who is bold / adept /
interested enough to write a driver for Ultima VII or for that matter
any other decent game for Diamond Stealth owners or for that matter any
other video card with an S3 chip?

Pete

email:	psun@ecn.purdue.edu	or	psun@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: marty@atmos.ogi.edu (Marty Shearer)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: King's Quest 6 - in the dungeon again
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:02:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.45538
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Atmospheric Sciences, Beaverton, OR

I haven't seen many postings for King's Quest 6, so I hope someone
else out there is playing it. I've just gotten really stuck.


SPOILER ALERT ******  SPOILER ALERT ****** SPOILER ALERT





















I am in the castle for what I believe is only the first time.  I think
I've done everything I can do on the other islands: Isle of the Beast
is solved, Isle of the Sacred Mtn is solved (the minotaur's destroyed,
anyway).  I have made one trip to the Druid's Isle, but don't have 
whatever it takes to survive a second trip.  I haven't been able to
find what the ferryman needs.

My problem: What action is necessary to avoid being thrown into the
dungeon by the guards?  I can get up the left staircase and hide
behind the pillar, but haven't been able to get past that point.

Inventory includes (to the best of my memory):
map, boring book, note and hair ribbon, stench flower, rotten egg,
lamp (blue one from the lamp salesman), scythe, vial of crytalline
water, mirror, book of spells, cup of ooze, black feather, bottle of
milk (haven't figured out why/when/if to give it to the Babies Tears)
mechanical nightingale (or brush/tinder box/flute), coins, skull,
shield, rabbit's foot, and maybe one or two other items I've forgotten.

After all this background, a brief hint would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance:
marty@atmos.ogi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Elite Character Needed
From: oberland@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:30:49 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University

I give up.
I have come across a game of Elit
and can't figure out how to edit the saved file to get 
goo stuff(or about 4000 credits)
Also, I seem unable to find the stations.
They just appear suddenly at close rabge.  NO seeing them at long
range.  Very annoying.
Love the MCGA graphics, tho :)

Thanks, and maybe someone could send a saved file/character to me?
Joe
From: Ellenb@mac.dev.upenn.edu (Ellen Bart)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: adventure - a problem
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:18:31 GMT
Followup-To: rec.games.misc
Organization: Univ of PA

I am playing that old mac game Adventure, the giant, version available by
FTP from UMich.  Unfortunately, near the start of the game, every time I
cross the crystal bridge, the game starts acting up, and usually crashes
within 5 or 10 moves.

Does anyone know if this game is simply not compatible with System 7, or if
I'm just doing something wrong?

Thanks,
Ellen
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: s030@brems.ii.uib.no (Terje Askvik)
Subject: Ultima Underworld: fountains & levers
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 11:48:33 GMT


-- 
1. How do I drink from the fountains?

2. I think I have set the four levers on level 1 in their correct
positions, but the secret door is still closed...
I used the combination described in uwstuff.zip or uwxcheat.zip:

(ROT 13)
Jvgu cbfvgvba mreb ng gjryir b'pybpx, yrire bar ng bar, yrire gjb ng
gjb, yrire guerr ng guerr naq yrire sbhe ng sbhe (fgenvtug qbja).

***********************************************************************
*   Terje Askvik, Dept. of Informatics, University of Bergen, Norway  *
*           Smail: Neumannsgt. 25, N-5015 Bergen, Norway              *
*           Email: s030@brems.ii.uib.no/ charlie@oscar.bbb.no         *
***********************************************************************
From: roelandk@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: DQK solution site needed...
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:42:44 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

Can anyone tell me where I can find a FTP site that has hints or a 
walkthrough for DQK? Any help would be appreciated.
	Thanks,
		 Roelandk@yang.earlham.edu
From: dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com (Danny Low)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:57:03 GMT
Subject: Re: TDQK: Lighthouse: where do I get [spoiler item] from
Organization: HP LOVECRAFT DIVISION
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc

>I'm stuck in Dark Queen of Krynn in the  Lighthouse Tower of Luminari.
>There was a hint about something under the porch (which I assume is the
>key to the door in l1, but I can't find the key (nor anything resembling
>a porch, other than at the front door which I can't seem to find
>anything at).

Floor 11 is a red herring. You need to go UNDER the porch. 
Haven't you noticed something that will take you way, way down on
every floor?

			   Danny Low
    "Question Authority and the Authorities will question You"
	   Valley of Hearts Delight, Silicon Valley
	     HP CPCD   dlow@pollux.svale.hp.com
From: Daryl.Banttari@f62.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Daryl Banttari)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: computer vs human stratego game wanted
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 17:29:03 -0600

 -=> Quoting Kryst the Philosopher to All <=-

 KtP> K.Tsang@cs.ucl.ac.uk
 >Does anyone know where I can get a UNIX computer-vs-human version of
 >Stratego.
 
 KtP> No, and I am sorry if this isn't really any help, but there is
 KtP> a PC version which plaes quite well, and has great graphics for a
 KtP> little ole PC.  Try it out!

 Uh, I realize you didn't ask the original question, but since
 it was addressed to "all", I'm going to reply to you...

 If you're any good at Stratego at all, stay away from that game!
 It's got neat gfx, but the second game I played was on the highest
 level, and I squashed it flat.  I'm thinking, "A fluke?", but it's 
 not- it just can't play.  Sorry to dissapoint!


... DOS never says "EXCELLENT command or filename"...
 * Origin: The Spare Computer (1:282/62.0)
From: cnc0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHARLES NELSON CHOUKALOS)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Wanted: Cosmic Balance and Warp Factor I for IBM
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:47:34 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


        I am desperately trying to get a copies of Warp Factor I and Cosmic
        Balance for the IBM.  Both of these games are made by SSI, however
        they are pretty old, old enough that SSI doesn't have the backup disks
        for them not to mention the "old software houses" say that it is
        preatty much a dead game.  If anyone out there could help me in
        tracking down these games, or obtaining a copy(really key) I would be
        greatly indepted.

        THanxs

        Orcslayer

        
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: jellis@trentu.ca (John Ellis)
Subject: Ultima Underworld Question
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:45:00 GMT


Howdy.  Although I am sure this question has been asked already (though I 
can't find it) I am looking for the Wizard's bones?  On which level, and 
where exactly are they?  Also, how can I tell that they are the wizards 
bones rather than just regular bones of some dead headless or various 
wandering monster?

Danke.
John Ellis.

From: randy@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Randy White)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:27:31 GMT
Subject: Re: Ultima Underworld (So CLOSE...)
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc


Spoiler ahead . . .

















> I'm almost near the end of the Stygian Abyss (I suppose).  I've buried
> the wizard's bones, and he's asking me for a certain item ("imbued
> with virtue").  I have NO idea what response they're looking for.
> I've tried naming every artifact I have, as well as some others:
> "gold", "gold nugget", "moonstone".
> 
> What do I say?  Thanks in advance !!!!!!
>
>						Gary Parnes

Try the word "talismans".

But if you think that question is hard, wait for his next request . . .  ;-) 

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Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: rlister@cti.com (Russell Lister)
Subject: Re: Ultima Underworld: fountains & levers
Organization: Comprehensive Technologies Int., Inc.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:15:09 GMT

s030@brems.ii.uib.no (Terje Askvik) writes:


>-- 
>1. How do I drink from the fountains?

   Click the hand icon on it.

>2. I think I have set the four levers on level 1 in their correct
>positions, but the secret door is still closed...
>I used the combination described in uwstuff.zip or uwxcheat.zip:

   Never read those files, but you can look at the results.  The levers
   control some platforms in the big room just outside the door (down the
   ramp).  There is a ledge/cave up one of the walls  with a few useful 
   items.  The platforms are hard to see with just torch light, so you 
   may have to go down the ramp each tme to see how you're doing.
                                                                 
   Russ
   


-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Russ Lister  rlister@cti.com  -or-  {well connected systen}!uunet!cti1!rlister 
Comprehensive Technologies Int'l Inc., Arlington, VA
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: computer vs human stratego game wanted
From: morgan@arc.ab.ca (Sean Morgan)
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:13:57 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <721314287.F00001@tdkt.kksys.com>
Daryl.Banttari@f62.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Daryl Banttari) writes:

> If you're any good at Stratego at all, stay away from that game!
> It's got neat gfx, but the second game I played was on the highest
> level, and I squashed it flat.  I'm thinking, "A fluke?", but it's 
> not- it just can't play.  Sorry to dissapoint!

Exactly the same comments apply to the Mac version I pulled off sumex many
moons ago.  Very disappointing!
-----------------+-------------------------------
Sean Morgan      |  ALBERTA  6815 - 8 Street N.E.
                 | RESEARCH  Calgary, AB, Canada
morgan@arc.ab.ca |  COUNCIL  T2E 7H7
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Indiana Jones 4
From: elda@chen.bgu.ac.il (elda weizman )
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 17:15:04 GMT
Organization: Ben Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

What should i do in the temple, in south-america?

Noam,
elda@chen.bgu.ac.il
From: Ellenb@mac.dev.upenn.edu (Ellen Bart)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: crystal cave help
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:57:15 GMT
Followup-To: rec.games.misc
Organization: Univ of PA

I'm playing crystal cave 2.2 for the mac, and I've got two problems: I
can't seem to get rid of the dwarf, although I've tried killing him and
giving him things and simply avoiding him.  Also, I can't get back to the
barn to deposit my treasures.  I'm assuming there's a special trick, the
way there is in Dungeon, but thus far, I sure haven't found it.

E-Mail responses fine.

Thanks.
Ellen
Xref: sparky rec.games.misc:18361 comp.sys.ibm.pc.games:21848 misc.forsale.computers:40382
From: Ordania-DM@cup.portal.com (Charles K Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Qemm
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 92 15:24:30 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Jay (ycai@iastate.edu) wrote:
	Is there any way I can get QEMM386 from ftp sites? if so which one?
	Please respond by email.


    Why Jay, I'll be so happy to point out several sites...
	theres IMAP.IRATE.EDU, FED.BUR.INV, STU.PID.AREN.TI, and the ever
popular QTR.DECK.EDU also reachable by phone at (213) 392-9701 (voice).

Oh, if you get a copy, why don't you upload it to CBIP also, I'm sure that
would make it easy for the rest of us. :)

Charles_K_Hughes@cup.portal.com

p.s. For the humor impaired - stop reading the net. :)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: SEGA GENESIS GAMES
From: corey.pratt@cccbbs.UUCP (Corey Pratt) 
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:33:00 GMT
Reply-To: corey.pratt@cccbbs.UUCP (Corey Pratt) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248

Just got a Sega Genesis the other day in a series of trades.  It came
with two carts.   Sonic the Hedge Hog and Altered Beast.  Now that I am
hooked on the Genesis.....I want to know from other Genesis owners what
games are worth purchasing.  OR if any of you have games you are wanting
to sell.  Let me know any info you might have!

      Thanks!
                     Corey Pratt

(513) 553-2372
cccbbs!corey.pratt@uceng.uc.edu
                                                                                  
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
From: impster@ais.org (Charles Budensiek)
Subject: Super Smash TV cheats for Sega?
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 09:05:11 GMT

Is there any way to 'cheat' on Super Smash TV for the Sega Genesis?

By cheat I mean getting more <unlimited> lives, goto any level... blah blah
blah.

Thanks,
impster@umcc.ais.org

Newsgroups: rec.games.misc,rec.puzzles
From: jasona@sco.COM ( we're Beatrice )
Subject: Re: Questioning game
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 01:18:05 GMT
Keywords: Dragon Questioning Game


Oh my God, like glickman@husc10.harvard.edu (Mark Glickman) writes:
*- ...I was reminded of a game/party-pasttime where one person provides a
*- vague description of a situation (usually a bit contrived and morbid),
*- and the rest of the people at the party must ask yes/no questions in
*- order to figure out the details of the situation.

 [ example deleted ]

*- What I want to know is if this game has a name (I've heard it called
*- 20-questions, but I don't think that's right), and if there's a good
*- source of situations listed or printed anywhere.

The first I ever saw of this game was in an early issue of _the Dragon_
magazine (around issue #40? I stopped collecting around #46). The game was
introduced with a question about Faferd [sp?] (of _Faferd and the Grey 
Mouser_ fame). The question went along the lines of:

	"Faferd is up to his neck in water, and has only a minute to live."

specific Faferd question spoiler:


   Faferd was apparently suspended upside-down and had been holding his breath
   for that last 4 minutes. The players then had to figure out why he was in
   this perdicement and how the Mouser was to get him out.

i,jasona
From: mforesto@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael John Foresto)
Newsgroups: rec.games.misc
Subject: Sega Vs. SNES
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:14:34 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


	I'd like to hear some opinions on the advantages of Sega and
Super Nintendo...Also, any hard data on graphic capabilities, sound
and expandibility.  I'm interseted in purchaisng either one and would
like to hear you're opinions.  Any hard data available would also
be appreciated, graphic quality, number of colors, storage of thei
cartridges etc...
	Thanks in advance....