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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Create a directory(object) from DRIVES?
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 05:43:01 GMT

In article <exujlg.132.0@exu.ericsson.se> exujlg@exu.ericsson.se (Jon L. Gauthier) writes:
>Don't laugh - I've got an OS/2 2.0 user (actually, our applications
>programming manager) here at work who is new to OS/2.  He asked me
>how he could create new directories from within the Drives folder in
>the WPS.
>
>"Simple." says I.  "Just click on the upper left button in the window of 
>the drive you want it on, select Create Directory, and type in the name of 
>the directoryyou want to create."  Of course, I had up to that time used 
>only the'real man's' method to create directories - from the command line.
>
>So he tries it, and guess what: no 'Create Directory' menu option.  So I 
>look everywhere - command reference, the FAQ, tutorial, and can't find it.
>If a programming manager and an network systems manager can't figure it out, 
>how are our regular users going to figure it out when we unleash OS/2 on an 
>unsuspecting public?  Surely it's so obvious that we can't see the forest 
>for the trees!  
>
>Help!!!

Have you tried dragging a folder template to the Drive icon?  I think that
works.  But lack of a 'create directory
 _is_ atrocious.
>Jon L. Gauthier                                 Ericsson Network Systems, Inc
>EXU/IS/TP Systems Programmer                                  P.O. Box 833875
>+1 214 997-0157                                     Richardson, TX 75083-3875
>
>Disclaimer:  "My opinions are my own - my employer would take the 5th on
>             everything I say."  Surely it's been said before!...
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Dan Stephenson                                           das9674@usl.edu
" BERLIN WALL FALLS.  3 BORDER GUARDS LOSE JOBS.  CLINTON BLAMES BUSH! "
        -George Bush, '92 Republican nomination acceptance speech
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From: liuyu@kramden.nyu.edu (Liuyu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???
Date: 29 Aug 92 04:05:58 GMT
Organization: New York University

quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan) writes:

>In article <1992Aug28.180020.17109@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:

>>     OK, please don't interpret this as a bash on IBM, as Microsoft
>>corporate policy, or as anything more than a gut reaction to reading
>>this text.
>>
>>     This really gives me the willies.  Is IBM only going to support
>>OS/2 on IBM hardware?  And, if so, what would be the implications if
>>OS/2 were to dominate the PC operating system market?
>>

>This is a silly post.  Everyone knows that IBM supports OS/2 on all
>PC-compatible hardware and offers a money-back guarantee if they can't
>get it to work on your hardware.  Will Microsoft give me my money back
>if I can't get Windows 3.1 or NT to work on my hardware?  Microsoftians
>should check up on their facts before posting...

I don't think it's silly. Not everyone knows IBM doesn't support the standard
mono graphics Hercules card when almost every other software companies write
their own Herc driver for their software. IBM expects Hercules to write it.
Does IBM write VGA driver for other software, ie wordperfect, lotus, Windows,
and bunch of others? Does these companies expect IBM to write drivers for them
since it's IBM's hardware? Of course not. VGA is a standard so is Hercules.
I don't think IBM wanted to support a standard from other vendors.
I think you should check the facts out first.
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From: philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara)
Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:00:20 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <714913121.20822@minster.york.ac.uk> george@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>>  
>>  It seems that there are a number of users using AMIPRO V2.0,
>>  running under WIN/OS2 that have not encountered any problems.
>>  
>>  I can only advise you to run the software on an IBM machine to
>>  ascertain whether or not there is a fault with Hardware instead
>>  of Software.

     OK, please don't interpret this as a bash on IBM, as Microsoft
corporate policy, or as anything more than a gut reaction to reading
this text.

     This really gives me the willies.  Is IBM only going to support
OS/2 on IBM hardware?  And, if so, what would be the implications if
OS/2 were to dominate the PC operating system market?

					-Phil

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Phil Lafornara         				1 Microsoft Way         
philipla@microsoft.com				Redmond, WA 98052-6399 
Note:  Microsoft doesn't even _know_ that these are my opinions. So there.
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From: exujlg@exu.ericsson.se (Jon L. Gauthier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Create a directory(object) from DRIVES?
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:15:43 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <exujlg.132.0@exu.ericsson.se> exujlg@exu.ericsson.se (Jon L. Gauthier) writes:
>From: exujlg@exu.ericsson.se (Jon L. Gauthier)
>Subject: Create a directory(object) from DRIVES?
>Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:12:45 GMT

>Don't laugh - I've got an OS/2 2.0 user (actually, our applications
>programming manager) here at work who is new to OS/2.  He asked me
>how he could create new directories from within the Drives folder in
>the WPS.

>"Simple." says I.  "Just click on the upper left button in the window of 
>the drive you want it on, select Create Directory, and type in the name of 
>the directoryyou want to create."  Of course, I had up to that time used 
>only the'real man's' method to create directories - from the command line.

>So he tries it, and guess what: no 'Create Directory' menu option.  So I 
>look everywhere - command reference, the FAQ, tutorial, and can't find it.
>If a programming manager and an network systems manager can't figure it out, 
>how are our regular users going to figure it out when we unleash OS/2 on an 
>unsuspecting public?  Surely it's so obvious that we can't see the forest 
>for the trees!  

>Help!!!

I think I found an answer to my own question - like I thought, it was 
staring me in the face:  Right-click on the directory/folder that you want 
to create a sub-directory in, and select Create Another.  Follow the prompts 
and everything works from there.

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Jon L. Gauthier                                 Ericsson Network Systems, Inc
EXU/IS/TP Systems Programmer                                  P.O. Box 833875
+1 214 997-0157                                     Richardson, TX 75083-3875

Disclaimer:  "My opinions are my own - my employer would take the 5th on
             everything I say."  Surely it's been said before!...
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From: bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens)
Subject: About this Hercules business (Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:04:26 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

About this Hercules business:

1.  I doubt that to expect Hercules to write a driver makes
much sense.  They (Hercules) probably have stopped manufacturing those
"Hercules Graphics" cards years ago.  The cards that are still around 
are probably all cheap clones made in Taiwan.  And drivers won't come
from those manufacturers either.

2.  Isn't it time for those folk who still use a Hercules
to do themselves a favor and get a decent monitor?  A GUI with
a low-res monochrome monitor just doesn't make sense.

3.   Sure, IBM doesn't have to write drivers for all the
hardware around.  But if their marketing approach were sensible,
they would, wouldn't they?

Luc B


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From: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan)
Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:08:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.180020.17109@microsoft.com> philipla@microsoft.com (Phil Lafornara) writes:

>     OK, please don't interpret this as a bash on IBM, as Microsoft
>corporate policy, or as anything more than a gut reaction to reading
>this text.
>
>     This really gives me the willies.  Is IBM only going to support
>OS/2 on IBM hardware?  And, if so, what would be the implications if
>OS/2 were to dominate the PC operating system market?
>

This is a silly post.  Everyone knows that IBM supports OS/2 on all
PC-compatible hardware and offers a money-back guarantee if they can't
get it to work on your hardware.  Will Microsoft give me my money back
if I can't get Windows 3.1 or NT to work on my hardware?  Microsoftians
should check up on their facts before posting...

--Tony
quan@cs.stanford.edu



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From: liuyu@kramden.nyu.edu (Liuyu)
Subject: Re: About this Hercules business (Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???)
Organization: New York University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:10:20 GMT

bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens) writes:

>In article <liuyu.715301119@kramden> liuyu@kramden.nyu.edu (Liuyu) writes:
>>
>>>About this Hercules business:
>>
>>Why don't you also include CGA and EGA? Are you implying GUI on CGA is
>>much better? If IBM wanted to drop support on low-res video, they should
>>have drop them all. 

>What's the logic of that statement?  Just because neither Hercules
>nor CGA makes much sense, you seem to think that because they
>maintain support for CGA, then they should also have supported
>Hercules?

Many people who have older hardware think it is only fair to support BOTH
standards!! If you don't get the logic, I give UP!
Say you had a step mother and she has a kid. Both you and her kid are rotten
scums (being old hardware). Is it fair for her (IBM) to dump you (Herc) but 
not her kid (CGA)?? If IBM wants to support old hardware, why not ALL?! They
only seem to support their own. A bad step mother.


>If there are two mistakes, say A and B, if they make mistake B,
>you say they should have made mistake A too?

This is NOT about mistakes, it's about supporting Herc!!! I want them to undo
first mistake (as you stated).

>At least, they pulled support for one obsolete mode.

Wait until they pull support on soon to be outdated VGA... What are you going 
to say then? Beat yourself? 
Though I doubt they will pull support on THEIR own standard VGA.

>(As for EGA, there are still quite a few apps around that
>run in EGA mode.  I don't know whether that means that drivers
>are needed.  But I dson't think you will find anything around
>that runs in Hercules and not in some other mode too....)

You sound like you have never used Hercules card. There are many, repeat many,
applications support standard Hercules. Don't try to make a comment on a
product you have no experience with!

Let's drop this subject. I know IBM will never support standards other than
its own. No matter how big my voice is, they won't listen... No wonder many
people stay away from IBM products. They are too arrogant and insensitive to
customers' demand. I learn my lesson.... (sigh)
No need to reply. I got too tired of explaining. Good luck with your not so
outdated video.
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From: exujlg@exu.ericsson.se (Jon L. Gauthier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Files Requested (Qedit OS/2)
Keywords: Qedit - UUencode
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:37:06 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <38936.2369220243@crfm.gen.nz> mark@crfm.gen.nz (Mark Herrick) writes:
>From: mark@crfm.gen.nz (Mark Herrick)
>Subject: Files Requested
>Keywords: Qedit - UUencode
>Date: 24 Aug 92 10:48:56 GMT

>Hi Everybody! .. I Have a small request. If anyone has a copy of Qedit for
>OS/2 (i'm not even sure this exists) can they please Post it on binaries.os2
>also (so that i can post) a copy of UUENCODE for OS/2 .. I have UUDECODE but
>if i want to send things it's not much use.

>Thanks
>       Mark

Last I heard, Qedit for OS/2 is still commercial software, as opposed to the 
shareware status of Qedit for DOS.  Contact Semware in Marietta, GA
Voice: 404-641-9002, BBS: 404-641-8968 for info.

Regards,
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Jon L. Gauthier                                 Ericsson Network Systems, Inc
EXU/IS/TP Systems Programmer                                  P.O. Box 833875
+1 214 997-0157                                     Richardson, TX 75083-3875

Disclaimer:  "My opinions are my own - my employer would take the 5th on
             everything I say."  Surely it's been said before!...
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From: cdfannin@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (Chris D Fanning)
Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:25:31 GMT

In article <liuyu.715296024@kramden> liuyu@kramden.nyu.edu (Liuyu) writes:
>cdfannin@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (Chris D Fanning) writes:
>> [stuff deleted]
> [more stuff deleted]
>Does Microsoft expect IBM to write VGA drivers for Windows? Does Geoworks
>expect IBM to write VGA drivers for its software? Does any other OS's expect
>IBM to write VGA drivers? VGA and Herc are standards. All the information 
>about VGA and Hercules are available.
>You write YOUR own standard VGA & Herc drivers! What make you think a
>OS from IBM is so special that they don't have to write "standard" drivers? They
>wrote for their own standards but not competitor's.
>If you don't consider Hercules a standard, I give up.
>And I agree there is no standard SVGA hardware. So companies write their own
>SVGA drivers as they should.
>If you still don't get the point, here it is again.
>Like many other software companies, IBM should have written drivers for ALL
>"STANDARD" (VGA,EGA,CGA, and Herc) video cards. But they only chose their 
>"standard". Enough said!

Yes, I do understand your point.  There are basic drivers out there that
should be written by the software manufacturer...  The hard question is
whether or not OS/2 is useable with such a setup, and who should write
the driver.  In this case, Hercules would only be benefitting Taiwanese
Herc clone manufacturers.  IBM, on the other hand might sell a few more
copies of OS/2... but, at what cost?  Would the amount of money IBM pours
into this be returned faster than if they had their developers working
on something else?  Resources were a major problem with developing OS/2 2.0.
Would IBM sell more copies by writing drivers for [their] SCSI cards,
(a major problem with OS/2 1.x) or a Herc display?  Standard or not, most
people that have machines that can run OS/2 are probably relatively new, and
have VGA (minimum) not Herc.

Delaying OS/2 2.0 any more than it already had been may very well have killed
it.

As for OS/2 being useable on a Herc display... I can't say.  I find it hard
to work with on a standard VGA.

Chris
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: DosReadQueue and Timeouts
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:44:50 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <19920826.040756.330@almaden.ibm.com> peterf@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>1. Create a semaphore (I use a RAM semaphore), and SET it.
>
>2. Create the queue.
>
>3. Do an initial read on the queue, with the NoWait argument = (CHAR)1,
>   and supply the semaphore handle of your semaphore.
>   Try to do this while the queue is empty. You will then get the return-
>   code ERROR_QUE_EMPTY - your semaphore is now registered by the queue
>   subsystem, and will be CLEARed when something arrives in your queue.
>
>4. You can now do a DosSemWait on your semaphore, and use the timeout
>   value as you like.
>
>5. If you get NO_ERROR from DosSemWait, you have element(s) in the queue.
>   SET the semaphore.  Read elements with the same NoWait and semaphore
>   arguments as in 3.  The semaphore will not be registered again until
>   you get ERROR_QUE_EMPTY from DosReadQueue.  You can now GOTO 4, and
>   wait on the semaphore again.
>
>   If you get ERROR_SEM_TIMEOUT from DosSemWait you can do your house-
>   keeping (or whatever). The semaphore will stay SET and registered in
>   the queue subsystem, so you just have to go back to 4 when you're done.

You can start your housekeeping automatically and do your DosSemWait
with no timeouts in a separate thread, if you want/need to get fancy.
Of course, you may need new semaphores to keep the housekeeping from
mucking up the incoming data from the other thread if the housekeeping
is something like garbage collection.
-- 
   |)  David Charlap           "I don't even represent myself
  /|_  dic5340@hertz.njit.edu   sometimes so NJIT is right out!.
 ((|,)
  ~|~  Hi! I am a .signature virus, copy me into your .signature file.
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From: luca@ipgaix.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli)
Subject: Tools for portable applications
Organization: Universita' di Perugia
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 11:40:18 GMT

Here is the problem I am trying to solve.

I write client/server applications in the SNA world where the client
machine is a PC running OS/2 or Windows. The client app makes use of
a GUI. 

I am looking for a product which is portable among these architectures
and which can speed up the development process (i.e. I don't want to
use the SDK). I would like also to limit as much as possible the C/C++
programming since the people I work with are Cobol programmers in
the mainframe environment.

I have seen some of such products but none that satisfy me.

For instance many DBMS have tools of this kind but seem oriented to be
used in conjunction with the DBMS.

Others are interpreted and seem slow.

Presently I am examining the following products:
- JAM by JYACC
- NS-DK by Nat Systems (a French company) 
- SQLWindows by GUPTA

Others have been discarded:
- Visual Basic because runs only under Windows
- Foundation by Arthur Andersen because of the astronomical cost

Do you have any comments to make and products to suggest? Consider
that our area of application is the accounting.

If I have to make the painful decision of using C or C++ which would
be a good product to use (e.g. class libraries like Common View or
Zinc, or ...). Any comments on this?

Thanks,

Luca Priorelli

PS: is there a group specifically dedicated to this type of questions?
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: TAGS++ Crashes IPMD
Date: 30 Aug 92 14:36:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.crgn76h.feustel
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting


The program ETAGS recently posted to comp.sources.misc compiles and
links without error using C Set/2 and LINK386, but then aborts.
Running the program with IPMD crashes IPMD and sometimes hangs the
whole system. I thought IPMD was not supposed to be vulnerable to
this.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
( New .sig under construction. Watch this space! )
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From: bergstro@src.honeywell.com (Pete Bergstrom)
Subject: re: Toolkit + GCC 2.2.2?
To: comp.os.os2.programmer
Posted-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 11: 01:46 CDT
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:01:46 GMT
Received-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 11: 01:48 CDT

kslater@sps.pgh.pa.us (Kevin J. Slater) wrote:

>If I was to obtain GCC 2.2.2 (the just released update to GCC/2) and then 
>purchase the IBM toolkit for 2.0, would that be sufficient to write PM / 
>SOM / whatever programs to work under OS/2 2.0? I'm currently working as 
>a LAN/Lab Admin and there're plenty of guys at work who can help me with 
>the details of PM programming. The catch is I don't want to have 
>something that works part way.

That is the setup I'm using - the only missing tool is LIB.EXE and
that will be released in a week or two (see the recent post announcing
it).

The primary advantages of the toolkit are the online documentation of
the API, the header files (which need to be slightly modified) and the
complete OS2386.LIB file.  It also comes with a dialog editor, icon
editor, font editor, etc...

Pete
From: merrill@optima.UUCP (Darren Merrill)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: C Set/2 CS00013, did it make it out?
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:31:04 GMT

From article <19920901.072141.696@almaden.ibm.com>, by ameline@vnet.ibm.com (Ian Ameline):
>    It's on the Atlanta NSC BBS. 40 lines, high speed modems, and
> free -- just long distance, or the OS2 Support BBS. Not free, but
> 800 number access or local call access.

Hey Ian,
  I just called there this AM and didn't find 'hide-nor-hair' of the
new CSD.  The only one there is dated 8/18/92.  You would happen
to know where they are hiding it do you?
Thanks.

-darren
--
Darren Merrill                  UUCP: uunet!arizona!merrill
University of Arizona           Bitnet: merrill%cs.arizona.edu@arizona.bitnet
Department of Computer Science  Internet: merrill@cs.arizona.edu  
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From: grega@netcom.com (Greg Altman)
Subject: Bay Area OS/2 BBS (510) 657-7948, new files
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:42:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I am adding new files to the BBS this week. Expect the system to be a little
slow. I will attempt to mirror the hobbes.nmsu.edu OS/2 site as much as
possible with the goal of being in sync with it with a maximum of 2 days delay.
There will be a two hour shutdown to sync all the new files today or tomorrow
night.

I am NOT mirroring the archive volumes since that would simply duplicate files
that are already present on the disk. As far as I am aware, the archive volumes
are simple links to the relevant files.

The new BBS files will (by the end of the week) contain everything hobbes does.

The BBS info:
	Phone	(510) 657-7948 (USA)
	Speeds	2400-9600 baud with MNP 5
		No parity, 8 bits
	Limits	up to 60 minutes/day (with increased time for uploads)
		up to 4 Meg/day downloads
	Access	open to all
	Disk	300Meg total space with 200Meg of files
		(will be increased as needed)
	Sysop	Greg Altman as Sysop
-- 
Greg Altman grega@netcom.com
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Monday, 24 Aug 1992 19:59:11 CET
From: FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: I/O Redirection

Les:

The easiest way to do it is via REXX.

On the commandline:

   some_exe | RXQUEUE some_rexx_queue

The OS/2-Program RXQUEUE.EXE would take stdout and paste it to
the specified "some_rexx_queue".

Have a REXX-program started first, have it create the REXX-queue
named "some_rexx_queue" and let the REXX-program loop on that
queue and dispatch whatever comes in to the screen. It really is
easy and **very** helpful.

If you do not know REXX, post me a message, I'll send you the
code.

---rony
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