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From: barryt@ee.ubc.ca (barry tsuji)
Subject: Re: puck in wrong net?
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:10:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.152836.29901@bmerh85.bnr.ca> wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk) writes:
>In article <cfHMPbm00WBK81NWMi@andrew.cmu.edu>, Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>|> 
>|> I've seen old film clips of football players picking up fumbles and
>|> running the wrong way with the ball.  I know that in hockey players
>|> occasionally put the puck in their own net but it's always been a
>|> "quick" mistake around the goal mouth.  I was wondering if any player
>|> has actually skated in on his own goaltender and scored.  Has anyone
>|> ever seen this happen?
>|> 
>|> Mom.
>|> 
>|> 
>  I have seen two occasions that come close to your requirements;
> 
> In the early 1980s Vancouver was playing in Toronto, Vancouver was nursing a
>one goal lead when they were called for icing. Vancouver won the draw and Thomas
>Gradin picked up the puck along the boards to the right of the faceoff dot. 
 ^^^^^^
 ??????

>Since he had his back to the blueline he chose to drive the puck around the glass
>behind his own net. Instead he drilled an impressive shot in the top corner of
>his own net. Needless to say, the Vancouver goalie couldn't believe what had
>happened.
>

As a formerly long-suffering Canucks fan, I remember it was Lars Lindgren in
a game against those hated Edmonton Oilers, collecting the puck after the
Canucks had won the face-off in the dying seconds of the game and sniping
the top corner past a surprised John Garrett (no wonder he became a colour
commentator).

Unless this incident happenned in two Canucks games...

.....Barry
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: LIGHTNING NEWS: TB vs. Los Angeles 1/6
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:57:36 GMT

TB - 3 2 1 - 6
LA - 0 3 0 - 3

1 - TB Bradley 30  (McRae, Crossman)     6:09
    TB McRae 1     (Tucker, Chambers)    8:58
    TB Maltais 4   (Crossman, Tucker)   19:32 (pp)

2 - TB Bradley 31  (Crossman, Chambers)  0:46 (pp)
    LA Blake 7     (Gretzky, Coffey)     5:30 (pp)
    LA Donnelly 16 (Taylor, Thompson)    7:21
    LA Donnelly 17 (Blake, Gretzky)     14:02 (pp)
    TB Hartman 1   (Ramage)             16:35

3 - TB Beers 7     (Bradley)             5:28 (pp)

Shots on goal: TB 11- 4- 5--20
               LA  9-16-11--36
Power plays:   TB 3 of 5
               LA 2 of 5
Goalies:       TB Bergeron 5-3-0, 36 shots, 33 saves
               LA Hrudey 11-12-4, 20 shots, 14 saves
Attendance:    16,005

-----
* Lightning overcome Gretzky's return, 6-3

Wayne Gretzky returned for his first game of the season and the 1000th of his
NHL career on Wednesday night. But the Tampa Bay Lightning upstaged Gretzky,
the NHL's all-time leading scorer, by downing the Los Angeles Kings, 6-3, at
the Forum.

Los Angeles outshot Tampa Bay, 35-20.

The first line of Brian Bradley, Basil McRae, and John Tucker had a hand in
three first-period goals as the Lightning stole the thunder from the Kings.

Gretzky, 31, was playing his first game since injuring his back during
training camp. He got his first point of the game with an assist on a power-
play goal by Rob Blake at 5:30 of the second period. That cut Tampa's lead
to 4-1.

Mike Donnelly scored at 7:21 of the period to cut the deficit to two goals.
Donnelly scored at 14:02 of the second period to make it 4-3, thanks to an
assist from Blake and Gretzky.

That gave Gretzky two points in 40 minutes [he didn't play 40 minutes!].

Before that surge, the Kings appeared to be waiting for Gretzky to take charge.
They had been waiting for a long time.

Gretzky, the Kings' captain, left training camp Sep. 13 to be with wife Janet
for the birth of their third child.

He continued to complain of back problems and checked into the hospital Sep.
16. Six days later, at an emotional news conference, Gretzky announced he had
a herniated thoracic disk in his upper back.

Gretzky was carefully watched by doctors and only recently received clearance
to play.

Tampa came out early and forced the play in the attacking zone.

Bradley, who scored his second goal of the game 46 seconds into the second
period to make it 4-0, quieted the crowd at 6:09 of the first period with the
game's first goal.

The crowd of 16,005 came to see Gretzky revive the Kings but began to offer
jeers rather than cheers after Tampa's McRae and Steve Maltais scored in the
first period to make it 3-0.

Coming into the game, Tampa, looking for its first victory on this road swing,
was 14-25-2 for 30 points, last in the Norris Division.

Left wing Mike Hartman's goal at 16:35 of the second period restored the
Lightning's two-goal advantage at 5-3.

Tampa's defenseman Bob Beers beat Kings goaltender Kelly Hrudey at 5:28 of the
third period to make it 6-3.

Tom
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS NEWS: McDonough recalled, Berezan and Carter sent down
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:26:16 GMT

Hoping to bolster their slumping offense, the Sharks recalled center Hubie
McDonough, who has led the IHL in scoring thus far in the season, from the
independent San Diego Gulls, to whom McDonough had been loaned after the
training camp, yesterday.  McDonough, 29, had scored 64 points (21 goals and
43 assists) in 38 games for the Gulls, helping them to a hockey-best 32-2-4
record.  The Sharks had acquired McDonough by purchasing him from the New York
Islanders on August 31.  (Stats for McDonough are at the end.)

Meanwhile, the Sharks also trimmed their roster somewhat, by placing right
wing Perry Berezan, who had been scratched for the last 6 games, and left wing
John Carter, who had been scratched for the last 3, on waivers for the purpose
of sending them to the Kansas City Blades of IHL.  Berezan, 28, had scored 2
goals and 3 assists in 23 games with the Sharks this season, while Carter, 29,
had 4 goals and 8 assists in 34 games.

Here are McDonough's stats: (I don't have his stats with Capital District of
AHL for last season, but I do have his NHL stats):

McDonough, Hubie.	Center.		S: L	5' 9", 180 lbs.
Born: Manchester, New Hampshire, July 8, 1963.

Season	Team			GP	G	A	PIM
'86-87	Flint (IHL)		82	27	52	59
'87-88	New Haven (AHL)		78	30	29	43
'88-89	Los Angeles		4	0	1	0
	New Haven		74	37	55	41
'89-90	Los Angeles		22	3	4	10
	N. Y. Islanders		54	18	11	26
'90-91	N. Y. Islanders		52	6	6	10
	Capital District (AHL)	17	9	9	4
'91-92	N. Y. Islanders		33	7	2	15
	Capital District	?	?	?	?

He was initially undrafted, and was signed as a free agent by the Los Angeles
Kings in '88, and was traded along with defenseman Ken Baumgartner to the
Islanders for Mikko Makela in the middle of the '89-90 season.

BTW, as suggested by a member of the Sharks mailing list, I will also add a
line for the "next opponent" in my Jinxin' .Sig...

===============================================================================
GO CALGARY FLAMES!  Mike Vernon for Vezina!  Gary Roberts for Hart and Selke!
GO EDMONTON OILERS!  Go for playoffs!  Dave Manson for Norris!
GO TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS!  Grant Fuhr for Vezina!  Joe Sacco for Calder!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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Subject: Re: WJHC/Finns etc.
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:18:02 MST
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1993Jan5.120030.1@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi>, hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi writes:
> So, finally what was the power of Canada? Last year when Eric Lindros
> was in the team the success was very poor! Perhaps they learn something...
> Maybe they all totally played for the team? Perhaps the Swedes were more
> 'brilliant', but surely the Canadiens had great defensive play and they
> used the scoring opportunities very efficiently. Just like usually in
> the NHL.

IMHO, the difference this year was teamwork, like you suggested. Last year,
we were "Canada, featuring Eric Lindros", a team of individuals. This year,
the kids put the "team" back in Team Canada and it showed. 

I must add that I was very impressed with Peter Forsberg of Sweden. He was
always the best player on the ice. After seeing him play, I'm convinced (if
I wasn't before) that Philly gave up far too much for Lindros.

								Alan

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From: s4lawren@student.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence)
Subject: Hockey Fights
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:36:52 GMT

        Over Christmas I had the opportunity to watch 4, 3 hour hockey 
fight tapes that were obtained from the guy in St. Paul who advertises in 
Hockey News all the time (I'd like to meet him some time, just to see 
what he LOOKS like!)
        Tape 1 was "bloodiest fights from the '70's and '80's" and had a 
lot of Willie Plett, Bob Nystrom, Howatt, Tiger etc. The most dramatic, 
fight (and also the only one living up to the tapes title) was Stan 
Jonathon and Bouchard in which Bouchard bleeds all over the referee after 
being assaulted by Jonathon.
        Tape 2 was "Vinatage Bruin Fights" with a lot of stuff from the 
1970 - 75 period, O'Reilly is in at least half of these getting his head 
kicked in.  There is also the famous Carol Vadnais/Terry O'Reilly foray 
into the stands in MSG in which a fan is held down, his shoe removed and 
used as a blunt object with which to strike him with.
        The other two tapes were fights from '91/'92 (pretty boring, too 
much equipment, a lot of bench clearings in which no one really gets 
hurt) and a vintage Flyers tape.
        These tapes graphically illustrate what a gutter sport hockey was 
20 years ago and the great strides made in this time.

s4lawren@student.business.uwo.ca (Stephen Lawrence)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
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From: tkcamp@cs.wm.edu (Tracy Camp)
Subject: Wings Information
Organization: The College of William and Mary
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:20:02 GMT

Sorry to post this to everyone. If you asked me to forward you 
information about the Red Wings, please send me your userid. 
Somethings up with your mailer ... I can't reply.


Tracy Camp
tkcamp@cs.wm.edu
From: terry@gtm-inc.com (Terry Gerritsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Ontario Junior Hockey
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 22:30:20 EST
Reply-To: terry@gtm-inc.com (Terry Gerritsen)
Distribution: world
Organization: G.T.M. Incorporated, Kingston, ON (613) 546-3078
Content-Type: Text

                  Leyden Division
                 
                   G  W  L  T   F    A    Pts
Peterborough      38 29  9  0  201  131    58
Oshawa            36 21 13  2  167  152    44
Sudbury           36 21 14  1  184  161    43 
Kingston          38 18 13  7  169  161    43
Newmarket         39 19 15  5  190  184    43
Belleville        40 12 24  4  159  198    28
North Bay         36 11 23  2  141  169    24
Ottawa            39  8 26  5  139  196    21

                  Emms Division
Detroit           39 21 13  5  207  176    47
London            40 20 16  4  200  179    44
Owen Sound        37 18 16  3  207  194    39
Sault Ste. Marie  35 17 15  3  171  154    37
Niagara Falls     39 17 17  5  185  164    39
Kitchener         37 14 18  5  153  180    33
Guelph            35 13 19  3  164  195    29
Windsor           36 13 21  2  135  177    28

                 Thursday Results               
             =========================    
              Peterborough 11 Kingston 2
         Niagara Falls 7 Sault Ste. Marie 4
                London 2 Windsor 1

                Tonight's Games
            ===========================
            Peterborough at Kingston
            Owen Sound at Kitchener
          Sault Ste. Marie at London
             North Bay at Newmarket
               Guelph at Ottawa
               Oshawa at Sudbury

               Saturday's Games
           ============================
           Guelph at Belleville
         Detroit at Niagara Falls
           Windsor at Owen Sound

              Sunday's Games
         ==============================
             Guelph at Kingston
       Sault Ste. Marie at Kitchener
             Windsor at London
         Peterborough at North Bay
           Belleville at Oshawa
           Newmarket at Sudbury
         


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From: ept2@bunny.gte.com (Ed Tucker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Bruins schedule
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:53:20 GMT
Organization: GTEL

Hi, folks!

Could someone send me the schedule for the Bruins at home games for the 
next few weeks?

Thanks in advance!

--Ed
From: kmews@minnie.imd.nrc.ca
Subject: Re: ESPN Changes Game for Tommorrow
Organization: NRC-Institute for Marine Dynamics
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:39:58 GMT

In article <2380@hsdndev.UUCP>, nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder) writes:
> 
> Some guy calling up SportsRadio in Boston mentioned the promo but the host
> was clueless. I'm almost 100% sure that all NHL playoff games will take
> over the vacated USFL slots on ABC. Are you ready for afternoon playoff
> hockey ? :-)

Weekend afternoon playoff games (particulary Sunday games were common
in the 70's). I remember watching many a Sunday afternoon game when
I was growing up. I believe the Islanders won their first Stanley
Cup in an afternoon game (Bob Nystrom's OT goal against Philly).

KM

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From: epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard)
Subject: Re: Winnipeg Jets
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:38:50 GMT

gdejong@mobius10.math.uwaterloo.ca writes:

>	The Winnipeg Jets poor start has definitely seemed to turn them around.  They have played better than .500 hockey in December and have gone 4-1 since the trade with the New York Rangers.

I believe the Jets are 3-1-1 since the Olczyk for Domi and King trade.  THey 
beat the Bruins, Oilers, and Flames, tied New Jersey, and lost to the Hawks. 

>	The trade with the Rangers has been a really good deal for the Jets.  Olczyk seemed uninspired with the Jets, and with their crop of rookies, the Jets had an overabundance of skilled, offensive forwards.  The extra toughness of Domi, the defensive play and physical presence of King, have helped the Jets immensely.

Olczyk's performance was down this year over previous years, but he had been
hurt.  Also, all the new faces in the Jets lineup was undoubtedly cause for 
some adjustment by the team.  This is one of the reasons that the Jets didn't
fly out of the gate as some (read: ME) had hoped.  
	
>	I believe that the Oilers will have trouble catching the Jets.  The Jets have played considerably better at home this year than on the road.  The Jets play 4 more home games than road games the rest of the season, which does make a significant impact.  The Oilers are not in a similar situation.  Combined, with the Jets steady improvement as the season has progressed, I think the Jets will finish ten p[oints ahead of the Oilers.  And if the Kings keep slumping...

I think that the Oilers will have to be looking to make some move for 
Joe Murphy that will help them immediately rather than getting help for the
future as they got in the Lowe deal.  I do not count the Oilers out; I've 
seen them play enough to know better than to write them off with over a 
half season left.  Still, I do like where the Jets are going, and ditto
for the Oilers.  Am I glad Ted Green isn't the Jets coach.   

Also, of the Jets last 6 games, 3 are against the Oilers.  2 of the last 3
are against them.  

>	Anyone know what the record for goals by a rookie forward in the NHL is?  Selanne has about 32 in 39 games.  I'm guessing that the record is under 60 goals. (I know that Nieuwendyk in his rookie year, slightly passed 50 goals, and I was under the impression that he was near the record, maybe set by Mike Bossy)

Although I made an incorrect post regarding Mike Bossy yesterday, let me 
say that he does hold the rookie goal scoring record at 53.  Nieuwendyk 
had 50 in his first season.  Dale Hawerchuk had 45 in his first season as 
a Jet.  Peter Statsny has the rookie points scoring record at 109, which 
Selanne is not quite on pace to break.  He is on pace to surpass Hawerchuk's
mark of 103 as a rookie, though.  Also, his pace for goal scoring is about
61 by the end of this 84 game schedule.  

Evan
From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Patrick Lebeau (was Re: Flames news and statistics for Jan 5/93)
Keywords: Patrick Lebeau
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:16:38 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <1993Jan7.000335.18163@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>  
cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (KIRK MULLER or LARRY WALKER) writes:

>    2) how is Patrick Lebeau doing in the AHL?

He plays in the IHL (Salt Lake Golden Eagles).  I haven't checked his (or  
anyone's) individual stats lately...but although I know he's "cooled off"  
a bit from his red-hot start at the beginning of the season (how could  
*anyone* keep *that* pace up?!), he's still a vital part of the Eagles'  
offense.  I'd guess he's still one of their top 2 or 3 scorers.  If I can  
dig up some exact stats for him, I'll post them--unless someone else can  
oblige first :-)
From: twollnik@aud.alcatel.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Cable Merger to Challenge ESPN
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:06:13 GMT
Distribution: rec

This article was taken fromt this morning Dallas Morning News.

The owners of two regional cable television sports channels have merged their 
operations in a bid to compete against ESPN.  NBC and Cablevision Systms Corp.,
owners of SportsChannel America, and Liberty Media Corp., principal owner
of Prime Network, will form Prime SportsChannels Networks to operate the two
channels.  SportsChannel America will convert into an all-sports news service,
and Prime Network will carry live events.  Prime Network is best know in Dallas-
Fort Worth (and many other cities) as Home Sports Entertainment channel (HSE).


Has anybody else heard of this?  Whats the story?  Perhaps SC wants to get more
hockey coverage.  What does this do to the idea of ESPN II, which was to be
dedicated to NHL hockey and college sports.


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yeah I know!! but at least it HOCKEY !!!!
From: shayne@cs.mcgill.ca (Lydia Mancini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Whaddya mean Bossy never got 50 in 50!
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:14:28 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada

[Sorry, I accidentally deleted, the article's poster]

>>Mike Bossy did in fact score 50 in 50.  He was the first player to match
>>Maurice Richard's "unattainable" feat.  Made HUGE headlines everywhere.
>>Since Wayne and Mario and Brett and everyone else started achieving 50 in 50,
>>the mark just doesn't have the same kind of status.

My memory is a little foggy on this, but didn't he do that as a rookie?

-- Lydia
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From: corey@cayman.com (corey sohmer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: New York Rangers
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:25:52 GMT
Organization: cayman systems
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1b2

I just heard that Roger Nielson was fired by the Rangers!
Can anybody tell me who his replacement is?
How about Mike Keenan being the next coach
Thanks in advanced.
Corey
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Stan Fischler, 1/5
Date: 6 Jan 93 05:21:47 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel


* Roger Neilson met with certain members of the media at Rye, N.Y.:
Messier told him at the start of the year that he'd play his <bleep>
off for Neilson, but not in a tone that made him feel comforatable;
Neilson never thought that Messier told other players to go against
his coaching strategies; Neilson could never figure out Messier, and
was never truthful about his injuries.  Mike Gartner tipped him off
to the problems in the dressing room.  Neilson now wants another
NHL coaching job to beat the Rangers.

* New draft order next year: 1 - Ottawa, 2 - San Jose', 3- worst
record in league, 4 - Anaheim, 5 - Miami.

* Bob Clarke is unhappy in Phillie due to too little work and is
eyeing a job in Miami.

gld
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From: aclark@53iss5.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Allen Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Leafs @ Habs
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:46:26 GMT
Organization: Imaging Systems Division, NCR Corp, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA

Well, the time is near for the boys to make their annual pilgramage to
the Forum to go chear for the good guys (Leafs).  Jan 8 six of us will
head down the 401 for the 4th annual Leafs at Habs trip.  Incidentally
the Leafs are 0-3-1 when I've seen them in the Forum.  Maybe this year
(please, oh please) they'll actually win.

Just to let people know I've seen many games in the Forum as a visitor
and it is a great place to see a game.  Standing room is only $10.65
(Cdn) and is very very good.  Montrealers don't seem to like standing
so I've NEVER had trouble getting standing room.  This includes game 4
of the Cup final against Calgary in 1989, a game against Boston in
the playoffs 2 (I think) years ago, and a Canada Cup game Canada vs
Czechoslovakia.

Habs fans are quite willing to have other teams' fans come into the
building.  We've never been hassled and we can get quite loud.  After
all, it's all in good fun.  

While there it's fun to bet on the Mise-o-jeu which is the same as
Pro-Line in Ontario but is 3 years old.  This can be done in almost
any depaneur (convenience store).

allen.clark@waterloo.ncr.com

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From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Subject: Results of Jan. 2 games?
Keywords: Flames, Ranheim
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:32:25 GMT


Were the line scores/recaps for Saturday's games already posted and I just  
missed it? I did see posts for the 1/1, 1/3, and 1/4 games, but I don't  
recall 1/2 games.

If it's already been posted, could someone please repost just the Flames  
game info? That's the one I'm particularly interested in [rumor has it  
Ranheim had 2 goals :-)]. Thanks in advance.
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