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From: pallas@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Sarah Pallas)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Feeding supplements for Horses.
Date: 22 Jan 1993 20:25:37 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <C189D1.31o@inews.Intel.COM> jsnyder@cadev5.intel.com (Jan Snyder ) writes:
>The vet who pre-purchase-examined my new Paso found a bit of sand in her
>manure and recommended psyllium.  He suggested something like the Equi-Aid

An article in Practical Horseman this month advises to give two months
off psyllium once a year to keep the intestinal flora going.  If you
lose the flora, you can get it back by force feeding a cup of yogurt
with live cultures.  The psyllium can sweep out the whole gut,
including the good bugs!

Sarah Pallas
From: sknopp@vax (KNOPP, SHERRON)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: bio
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:22 EST
Organization: Williams College Center for Computing
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

>just after jas' birth i was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis (i was 
>32 years old).  i still have both horses and even "ride" at times when 
>i'm feeling strong.  but mostly i require lots of help with jolie and jas. 
> . . . .  maybe someday soon there will be a cure for ms!
> 
 Dear Gale--
    I don't remember specifics of your posts but I've always noticed
them because of your horses' names--Jaseroque and C'est Jolie.  Mine
is Belles Saisons.  How could I NOT notice horses named like yours!
So your post brought tears to my eyes.  PLEASE keep riding (and NOT
in quotation marks!) and Amen to your wish for a cure for MS.
                  Lots of love and good wishes,
                   Sherron and Belles Saisons
From: jlevy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (janet.s.levy)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: reader bios
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:37:52 GMT
Organization: AT&T

I love reading these Bios.

I'm Janet Levy.  I work for AT&T Network Systems and am currently
half-leasing a cute quarter horse/mix named Troy who is reputed to be
an event horse but is currently being a "horse of pleasure".  

I've been a horse lover since birth as far as I can recall.  I rode
my first horse on Mackinac Island at age 7.  Like many others, my family 
has been waiting for 40 years for me to outgrow this addiction.  I'm
also fairly talented in drawing and sculpting horses.  

Growing up in Chicago, my Mom trucked me to lessons (Saddleseat in those 
days).  In later years, I rode busses to livery stables to ride and would 
get my father to lease a horse for me for a month every summer.
I took huntseat lessons while in college and learned some jumping
but never went far with that.  After getting my BA in Biology
(specialized in Animal Behavior), I went to grad school for a Ph.D.
I also took my first dressage lessons.  Dressage was almost unknown
in the Midwest back then (1970).

I fell in love with one summer lease horse, Joshua, the great buckskin
wonderhorse, but couldn't buy him since I was starting graduate
school.  I went to Puerto Rico for a year to study play behavior in
monkeys, and while there I owned a little Paso stud horse named Coqui.  
When I returned to Chicago, I checked ads for a lease and through divine 
intervention (I really believe this) I got the chance to half-lease Joshua 
with his owner; this relationship lasted six years.  Joshua and I rode trails, 
learned some dressage, both learned driving and won ribbons for that, and 
specialized in trail class and won many trophies.  As I finished
grad school (in Biology), I tried to buy Josh but his stinky owner
wouldn't sell.  The month after I got my first REAL job (switching
to Computer Science), I bought my own horse, the App, Merlin.  I owned
Merlin for ten years.  He was a super mover but didn't really like
dressage that much; he taught me to be a much better rider since
he needed a subtle rider - you had to make him think everything was
his own idea.  He loved being driven and we did well at that.  He died 
tragically of poisoning three years ago.

Since then I have been leasing - hesitant to take on the financial
burden of ownership again, although I almost bought a Lippizan mare
last year.  My interests are classical dressage and driving, and
my favorite horse breed is the Lipizzan.  I believe Joshua was a Lipizzan
in buckskin clothing.  I'm starting my lease horse in harness this winter.

I'm an animal lover and own a Wheaten terrier, Casey, three
cats (Pumpkin, BigKitty, and Nokomis), a mini-lop BoomBoom, 16
English budgies, 1 cockatiel, and a box turtle (which I've had for
25 years).

Janet Levy
jsl@ihlpm.ATT.COM
From: jsnyder@cadev5.intel.com (Jan Snyder )
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: good thing we have guardian angels
Date: 28 Jan 93 22:39:32 GMT
Organization: Intel Santa Clara Design Technology

In article <1k17ekINNt37@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu 
(Sullys Maze) writes:
>Of all the people I ride with, I like to think I am the most safety
>conscious.  ...
>him with the group and see how he did.  Now, we all feel this is the
>worst time of the year to ride-the horses all frisky from the brisk
>air, excited by the first good sunlight, and the footing not great.

I've been accused of being over-cautious, but when there are still 
people around who rarely move beyond a walk, I don't think I'm so bad. :-)
This is a great time of year to ride in some ways--there's that extra 
magic in the air (or extra spooks, depending on your horse) and the
thrill of getting out and curing the "cabin fever" that develops with
lots of storms.   It's definitely wise to spend some extra time longeing
before riding; I'm usually sorry if I don't as I have to deal with an extra
fidgety horse.

>square in the temple!  I guess my guardian angel was around that day

Whew, definitely.  Glad you're okay!

>knocked into me.  I guess you are never too old to be really
>careful. And, I usually don't do it this way

It's easy to slip into "short cuts" if you have a generally trustworthy
horse.  I know I do a few things that are a bit marginal, so I'm grateful
for your timely reminder.  

>I also stupidly tried to move our pony from one corral to the other.
> Just threw a lead rope around her neck.  She was prance and tried

The only one I do this with is Quiche--who can be led by the mane on a
good day (and by a bucket of grain any day).  BUT...I only cut this 
corner if there are no other horses, either tied or moving, in the near vicinity.

>  Please, all of you, be careful!

This might be the season to allow a little mistrust to creep into the 
horse-human relationship.

-Sallijan
 Quiche (19yo chestnut Arab mare)
 Shadow Dancer (11yo black Peruvian Paso mare)
 Picardia (7yo chestnut Peruvian Paso mare)
 felines Imp, Gringo and Rags (geldings all)

-
Sallijan Snyder, TechWriter      | "I don't let my employer take credit for my opinions."
Santa Clara, California          | (408) 765-5444 voicemail    (408) 629-5909 home robot
Internet: jsnyder@scdt.intel.com |          =>Internet Z-Car Club Member #42<=
From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullys Maze)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: adopting a Ridgeback
Date: 26 Jan 1993 18:25:27 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

Regarding the person who is thinking about adopting the
Ridgeback, I say go for it.  We have had out male 21/2 year old
Ridgeback for two weeks and he is just WONDERFUL.  Doesn't bark,
chew, bother the cat (never had seen one), is submissive to our
older dog.  Doesn't get excited by the horses (had never seen one)
Doesn't mind neighbors comming over-stays on his carpet spot in the
house, jogs with me and stays by my side.  Since he has been shown
you can handle any part of his body with no problem.  Plus, he is
just beautiful, shiny red coat, expressive face.  Very loving and
friendly, I don't expect any problems with my little kids.  He is
also very smart and has alreadyh learned he has a place in the house
he is expected to stay unless invited elsewhere, and has also
learned to sit.  I am all for the breed, but don't expect a four
month puppy to be perfect.

This breed seems very laid back and mellow.  Bogey, for example,
will take one fast run across our pasture then come and snooze out
by me as I am painting the fence.  They do seem to sleep a lot but
also seem like athletic dogs and he enjoys running with me. I hope
to eventually take h im  out riding with the horses, and don't think
he will give any problem.

They are about the size of a doberman, but with a much bigger head.
I can't imagine a burglar wanting to tangle with one

Karen
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: hon@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (laslo.varadi)
Subject: Re: Reader Bio's
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:16:41 GMT

Hi. I am Laslo Varadi. I work for AT&T as a manager for Environmental Health andSafety. I live in PEnnsylvania (Bethlehem) and recently bought a 10 year old
thoroughbred mare. I have been riding for about 2 years and do some jumping, dressage and trail riding. The horse (Nellie) iiis stabled at Pleasant Hollow Farm in PA. I am a regular reader of rec.equestrian, but as you can see from my typing skills I usually do not post. I do enjoy hearing from all of you though.
I have also downloaded some of the GIF files using FTP. They are great.

Regards,
Laslo
From: steve.king@idcbbs.com (Steve King) 
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: need advice - dressage saddles
Date: 28 Jan 93 05:18:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: IDC BBS - Alameda, CA - 510-865-7115
Reply-To: steve.king@idcbbs.com (Steve King) 

To: njd@FTP.COM

NJ | I need a dressage saddle.  I've been making do with my old (20+
NJ | year-old) Siegfried, but I really want something a bit more suitable.
NJ | I'm sort of hard to fit because my legs are *really* short, and most
NJ | of the flaps are just too long and too wide.  I also prefer a seat
NJ | with a nice narrow twist.  Can anyone recommend a saddle to fit me?
NJ | 
NJ | Oh, yea - my horse is a thoroughbred, but he has a warmbloody set of
NJ | withers and back.  Most saddles that seem to fit me tip back on him a
NJ | little. *sigh*

Two identical models imported by Courbette, the Charles deKunffy in 
Sella leather, Trenck D_II in bridle leather, have about the smallest 
flaps around.  The tree comes in several widths, so one should fit your 
horse.  Although, if you're used to a Stubben, you may never be 
satisfied with a Courbette's comfort.  I have a both Courbette and 
Stubben dressage saddles; I find the latter much more comfortable.  If 
fact, my Courbette Trenck D_II is for sale, but it has an 18" seat.

steve.king@idcbbs.com (Steve King)
---
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Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: lmgarret@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Linda M Garrett)
Subject: Foals  & Due Dates
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:05:18 GMT


Hi, a friend of mine has three mares due this spring.  I have a
question about when.  According to when they were last bred, they
should be due between March 19 (the first one) and March 29 (the last
one).  However each of the three mares were bred twice and if they had
taken the first time they would have been due in Feb.  My question is
that all three of the mares have started making bags (for about 3
weeks now).  Another friend of mine said that her mares start making
bags 6 weeks before they foal.  I'm not talking about big bags, just
the udder area expanding and enlarging, no where near being full of
milk.  Is this 6 week thing a kind of rule of thumb (I know there are
no absolutes) or is this just what her particular mares do?

If 6 weeks is a rule of thumb, could the mares have been bred the
first time and we should be expecting foals in Feb?  Or would the
mares not have been willing to be bred the second time if they had
taken the first time.  She will be keeping an eye on them, and 2 of
the 3 mares have definately had foals before.  The third we are not
sure about.  So when they get close ( a week or so) she will know, it
would just be nice to know whether or not she should start
worrying(about the one who we don't think has had a foal before) in a
couple of weeks or not.

One more thing, Brandy, is the mare we are unsure if she has had a
foal before or not.  Carol is Brandy's 6th owner and she has never had
a foal registered.  But considering the shape she was in when Carol
bought her, I wouldn't be surprised if she has had a foal if it was
ever registered.  Anyway, Brandy is miserable.  The barn is on a hill
and when the horses are let out, Brandy acts like she doesn't want to
go, but when the other mares head on down to the pasture she goes with
them and doesn't stay at the top by herself.  There is some flat area
at the top where the horse can stay but of course there is no grass
there.  Are there any suggestion to make her more confortable?

Thanks

Linda
From: cbrand@cac.washington.edu (Carol Brand)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: western saddles
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:19:59 GMT
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing
NNTP-Posting-Host: norman.nwnet.net

In article <1jugaqINNd9c@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ct697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sharon Carnes) writes:
>
>Hello,
>I am looking for info on a good all around western saddles.  I owned a
>horse when I was a kid and now I am interested in half leasing a horse
>and would like to have my own saddle.  I want a used saddle and would
>like comments on the various brands.  I've seen Colorado, Circle Y and
>Billy Cooks.  What do I look for?  I'm interested in trail riding and
>reining and probably will be riding a quarter horse. 20 years ago I just
>got on and rode but now I'm interested in the finer aspects! Thanks for
>your help!!
>Sharon Carnes

Sharon,

I know very little about western saddles in general, but I have ridden in
two that really impressed me.  One was a Carroll (sp?) and the other was
a Falis (sp? word sounds like Phallus).  Both are built for a balanced
seat and so ride like dressage saddles. 

The man who owns these saddles has worked on a ranch for 35+ years and
spends 6+ hours a day on a horse working stock and riding trails. 

I'd be interested to know if anyone else has heard of these saddles and
what they think of them.

-Carol
From: deblev@nimoy.ipac.caltech.edu (Debbie Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: bio
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:02:36 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
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In article <21JAN199320223264@vax> sknopp@vax (KNOPP, SHERRON) writes:
>...post brought tears to my eyes.  PLEASE keep riding (and NOT
>in quotation marks!) and Amen to your wish for a cure for MS.
>                  Lots of love and good wishes,

Sherron said what I'd been fishing for since I read Gale's post.
Me too!
    Debbie

Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: mlr21@cas.org (Mary Lee Raines)
Subject: Re: pinto vs. paint
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:57:30 GMT

In article <1jklmkINNp3n@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, pallas@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Sarah Pallas) writes:
|> In article <1jk6otINNeqb@nigel.msen.com> dan@msen.com (Dan and Karen Sugalski) writes:
|> >
|> >A paint is a stock type horse, whose bloodlines are restricted to paint,
|> >QH and TB.  A pinto is any horse of that coloring...
|> 
|> I always thought that a pinto had round edges on its spots and a paint
|> had rough edges.  Anybody ever heard this explanation, because now I'm
|> wondering where I picked it up.  I don't remember the difference
|> between Overo and Tobiano.
|> 
|> Sarah Pallas
|> 
|> 

A Tobiano is basically a white horse with big, rather regular spots on it.
(White goes across the back.  Head usually has color on it.)  Usually white
legs.)

An Overo usually has white on its belly with color splashed on top.  Markings
tend to be jagged.  Usually has a lot of white on its face.  May have color
on legs.  

Then there's the tovero, sabino, and medicine hat patterns.  
But I'll let a Paint person get into the details.

Mary Lee Raines
Ravenswood Appaloosas
(whose very first horse was a dun tobiano gelding who single-footed)


P.S.  For those of you over 40 who remember The Cisco Kid--Cisco 
rode an overo pattern horse.  Let's see now, on The Longer Ranger Show,
Tonto rode a tobiano pattern horse.  
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: rewald@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Still on quest for Hage number
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:57:36 GMT

In article <1jmp0oINN71l@morrow.stanford.edu>, GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullys Maze) writes:
> To those of you who posted me the number of Hage from the original
> posting, thanks so much.  However, that number, 512-895-2232 is out
> of service.  I am about to give up on this Hage stuff-there is no
> listing in Information and the number of not correct.  Does anyone
> out there have a way to get in touch with them?
> 
> Thanks

By the way, I wrote to them, and my card was "return to sender, address 
unknown".  I would like to get more info about them, too.  I thought
some one on the net is actually getting feed from them - did I misread?

Thanks, too      Rosalie

Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: arabian@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (t.l.wallis)
Subject: bio
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:07:27 GMT

Terry Wallis of Wallis Arabians:
Mech Eng @ Bell Labs, CB, Ohio.

My friends have arabs (too many);
I needed the diversity from work (too long);
My children needed responsibility (Ha);
My wife loves foals;
I wanted to plan for retirement;
I liked to own a RANCH;

MY responsibilities are:
    feeding, cleaning, repair and trim;
    to pay, and to remember, I started this when;
Now I have 8:
    1 stallion, his dam, and 1/2 sister;
    2 Radaar (Radio) mares and a 22 y.o. Raffles filly;
    1 7 month old filly who thinks she is human;
    and THE GELDING;

My daughter is done with her schooling and living at home,
    because dad keeps HIM,
    the lessons and tack, the clothes and the shows.
SHOW HACK is her dream, the trainer and HIM,
    my job is to appaud, and to schedule for them.

Someday the chores will get done before dark,
    so that dad can relax with a horse.
but by then the son will return from his schooling away,
    and dad will need HIM2;

But I walk in the barn, and they all say hello;
I smile, respond,     and,   never say no;


email  tlw@cbdkc1.att.com
From: lisa@fc.sde.hp.com (Lisa Stroyan)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Reader Bio's
Date: 27 Jan 1993 01:15:46 GMT
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpfclisa.sde.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Hello!

My name is Lisa Stroyan, and I am another "lurker" and "horsaholic".
I work for Hewlett-Packard's Software Engineering Systems Division in
Fort Collins, Colorado.

I have been involved with horses since grade school.  I lived my
childhood on a community (aka "commune" :) in Tennessee which had a
"pony crew".  All ponies and horses were owned by the community, and
each one had a "crew" - a set of about 2-3 people that took care of
and rode that horse (each had the horse for a given set of days,
perhaps alternating Sundays).  If you were in "pony crew" you also had
a "barn day" - a day when you and others would clean the common barn,
feed and water all the pastures (what fun - carrying water buckets in
winter), etc.  Anyway, I learned a lot about taking care of horses.
It was also useful to be switched around to different ponies every
once in a while, as our riding and horse skills improved.

Also contributing to my horsaholism were summer trips to my cousin's,
who does three day eventing in Virginia and taught me most of the
formal riding technique that I have today.  Oh, how jealous I was of
her!

Since I moved away from Tennessee, I have only dreamed about horses
(literally) and then more recently, leased horses for a few months at
a time.  I don't currently have a horse, but I finally plan to get one
this spring.  I have finally reached that point in my life where I am
settled, have a good job, and am financially stable.  However, it has
taken me a while to overcome the doubts I get from others that don't
understand my need for a horse.  My husband, alas, is not a horse
person and is strongly entrenched in remaining that way (he has ridden
several rental horses, to give him credit that is due).  (If anyone
else has been frustrated that those around them don't understand, or
are upset by, their horse interests, I would be interested in talking
about possible workarounds!).

I like to ride English, but don't think I will compete, at least not
at first.  I would like to get an all-around horse that has a lot of
personality and is flexible, rather than one that excels in one area.
However, I would like the option of competing at a schooling-show
level, etc, at some later time.  Sigh...I suspect I will be looking
for a while, since I am pretty picky about personality which is hard
to determine/choose.

Well, I will probably be asking for more help as I buy a horse (after
I read all of the postings I have saved up).  Talk to you then, and
thanks for all the introductions!

Lisa


Lisa Stroyan 	
HP Software Engineering Systems Division
Fort Collins, CO				       
lisa@fc.sde.hp.com
From: cicarell@spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: yet another bio
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:07:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: spk.C1FHC4.4y5
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Hello all, still seem to be having problems, but I'll try to post this one
I want to get in on this bio stuff.

I am Colleen Cicarelli, and work as a Customer Support Engineer for Hewlett-
Packard in Spokane, Washington.  'nuff said about that...

I was not born horse-crazy, but got bit by that bug when I was 10.  I sat
next to a girl at school who had a Breyer Misty of Chincoteague (sp?) model.
That was all it took.

I lied, I was 8, I just don't know how to edit different lines yet.  When I
was 10, I started lessons at Double Eagle Stable (any of you QH people ever
heard of Sugar's Sun Lad? he was the stud there).  I started Western but 
moved to English (hunt seat) when I found out I couldn't jump in a Western
saddle,  tried it once on my own later, got punched in the stomach by the
horn, then I knew why :).  I rode and showed a horse from the track named
Okie Drifter, a.k.a. Drifter for short, Clod for shorter.  I got hooked on 
jumping when I rode him.  We also boarded racehorses at our house that I 
could ride around, and had a great pony-horse named Joker there for awhile
that taught me not to fear the world outside of an arena.  (Is this common
terminology?  Pony-horse = horse that leads the racehorses to the gate?)

I had my own horse for 4 years, and like all of your first horses (most of
them) he was the best horse in the world!  I had to sell him when I moved
away for college... :( and still miss him.

I didn't ride for 8 years (I don't know how I survived) while I was going to
school, getting a job, getting married, etc...  

I started again last May and am now firmly settled on a 16 hand, 10 year old
palomino QH/TB mare, Virtie (Virtues and Vices, what a name..)  It took some
settling, too, I fell off a number of times (thank God for helmets!!) while
she was re-learning to jump.  No-one wanted to ride her because of her bad
habits but I guess I was just too stubbo... I mean, I saw what she would
be like if she ever learned not to stop.  Now she hasn't refused in a month,
and I haven't fallen off in over 2 months (this was a big deal, staying on)
and it feels like she's starting to really relax and enjoy herself, its about
time...

The GREAT news for me is that I get to show her next summer in some local
(and maybe some not-so-local) hunter/jumper shows!!  Yippeeee!!

Anyway, sorry this got so long, keep those bios coming!!

Colleen Cicarelli (and Virtie, who has graduated from the name Alpo)
Hewlett-Packard
Spokane, WA