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From: disseldo@surv_sun.sli.unimelb.edu.au (Andrew Disseldorp)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Hunters & Collectors @ Palais Theatre 14/12
Date: 15 Dec 1992 23:39:13 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne
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Hi all, 
	I went and saw H&C and Frente at the Palias Theatre (Melbourne)
on the 14/12. 
	
	First Frente. They look a lot more comfortable on a big stage
then they did, although Angie still says she was so nervous. Live their
songs are a lot less sweet, and that can only make them better. Hell, 
I could even listen to Accidently Kelly St. without throwing up. Best
song by Frente was Labour of Love. Pity half the crowd that missed it,
as they hadn't arrived yet. Frente looked a bit cramped, as they were
put on the front of the stage, in front of the curtain.

	Hunters, hmmmmmm.... My first thoughts are - if you see them, 
go and see them in a pub.  Its not that I didn't like the show, but
"sit down concerts" entails having screaming teenage girls, and I can 
do without that. Second thing - An announcement comes over the P.A.
before the show inviting people to dance, but only in their seat space.
It didn't worry me, as I had front row, but if you are in the 4 -> 10th
rows, you'd like to dive for the stage and a better view. 

	The set was as big as anything I have seen for a hunters show, 
with a large "circular saw blade" al la the cover of cut being the 
the main prop. 

	The highlights for me were the Slab, complete with a fridge on
stage, which was opened to reveal a lighting kit - (The must have learnt
something from U2!), and 42 wheels, which I had never heard played live
before. Most of the songs of Cut were pretty mdeiocre, with Head 
Above Water being one of the better ones, as was Where do you go?.

Set List follows. I was a bit shocked to see the set lists laser printed, 
with all 3 encores pre programmed. I can accept having one encore all
set out, but I think any subsequent encores should be off the cuff, 
"play what seems appropriate" type things. anyway........

Holy Grail
We The People
42 Wheels
True Tears of Joy
Love all Over Again
Crime of Passion
Blind Eye
The Slab
Imaginary Girl
You Stole My Thunder
Dog
Grindstone
Hear No Evil
Head Above Water
----------------
Edge of Nowhere
Where Do You go?
Say Goodbye
--------------
stuck on You
Do you See what I see?
Throw your Arms around me
----------------------
Everythings on Fire
Inside a Fireball

Comments anyone?

Andrew
(disseldo@sunburn.sli.unimelb.edu.au)

P.S. The Age review, printed on 16/12 just about sums up the show....
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
From: jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jamie Scuglia)
Subject: CHART: Top 10 albums -> Australia.
Originator: jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: General Access UNIX Group, Monash Uni, Clayton, Vic.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:40:11 GMT

            /=============================================\
           || The TOP 10 AUSTRALIAN ALBUMS CHART.         ||
           || For the week ending: Friday 11th DECEMBER   ||
 __________|/=============================================\|___________
/                                                                      \
1.  ( 3) ABBA GOLD (GREATEST HITS) - ABBA
2.  ( 1) GLITTERING PRIZE 81-92 - Simple Minds
3.  ( 2) LIVE (DOUBLE ALBUM) - AC/DC *
4.  ( 4) THE ESSENTIAL COLLECTION - Joe Cocker
5.  ( 5) MARVIN THE ALBUM - Frente *
6.  ( 7) LILY - Wendy Matthews *
7.  ( 6) SOME GAVE IT ALL - Billy Ray Cyrus 
8.  ( 8) KEEP THE FAITH - Bon Jovi
9. (NEW) COOOLEYHIGHHARMONEY - Boyz II Men
10. (10) UNPLUGGED - Eric Clapton
------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Denotes Australian/New Zealand Artist
( ) Denotes chart position last week
NEW - Indicates album new to top 10
Chart supplied by the AUSTRALIAN RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION (ARIA)
\______________________________________________________________________/

These albums were in the top 10 last week:

     /=============================================================\
    ||  9.  THE GREATEST HITS - Noiseworks *                       ||
     \=============================================================/ 

                           ==================
                           JAMIE's MUSIC LINE 
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From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: HITS FM Melbourne 89.9 HURRY THIS WEEK ONLY!
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 23:43:57 GMT


In article <1992Dec13.033215.15731@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jamie Scuglia) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec8.035222.13267@trl.oz.au> lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron Lightwood) writes:
[deleted]

|> >
|> >Then HITS FM is for you!!!!!
|> 
|> I first picked up HITS FM last Monday (Dec 7th) in the morning.  Ever
|> since, I have been a devoted listener to that radio station - the only
|> radio station in Melbourne that plays fresh new music!!!  I was sick of all

Wait a goddam minute!  The _only_ station? You buy a special radio that excludes
public radio? Get out your green guide and check the other stations
3PBS, 3RRR, 3CR, 3RIM.........to start with but a few.  But don't forget
GOLD 104 hits and slaps, and 3$$$ - ads & ads for some good time mouldy...

|> have finished their temporary broadcast.  But during the week they
|> were on air, they brought with them a breath of fresh air into the
|> very stale area of Melbourne radio.  At last, I was hearing songs by
|> Kylie Minogue, Euphoria, Guns 'N' Roses, Toni Pearen, the KLF, C & C Music
|> Factory, ALT & The Lost Civilization, Ratcat, Peter Andre, and many,

Call those fresh?  Well past their sell by date.

|> be supporting HITS FM when they next hit the air-waves, and I'll
|> be ditching the FOX and MMM with pleasure.

Well done that chappie - ditch the commercial station for the commercial 
station.  With a name like HITS, I'm sure they're going to play new music!

brian
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From: Annette.Scott@f364.n632.z3.fidonet.org (Annette Scott)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Sorry for any inconvience
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:45:10

Sorry Andrew, I didn't mean to put you guys down! It's just that l love
 talking bout music, and you guys rave onto yourselves and ignore me! If you
 don't like anyone not in a school to use this board, then l'll drop you guys
 off my echo list, but l'd much rather be nice!!

ciao

... netta


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From: axg708@cscgpo.anu.edu.au (Ashraf Ghebranious)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Gigs in Sydney
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:49:40 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 130.56.5.23

Howdy all

I will be visting the folks in Sydney for a few weeks starting next week. 
Can any one fill me in on what/who is playing between 22-12-92 and early 
January and where etc. I would like to see/hear what is happening in Sydney 
in regards to live music

Thanks

Ashraf

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From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: Falling Joys at Central Club, last saturday
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:19:33 GMT

They were great. Suzie wore a long sleeved shirt, so I couldn't
see her beautiful forearms. Sigh...

Shckwish!
From: leanne@DIALix.oz.au (Leanne Archer)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: JJJ take it off.. no way!
Date: 13 Dec 1992 10:45:42 +0800
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  Hi Annette :-)

     Do you have an email address on internet I can send mail to?

     Sorry for taking so long to respond.

                                        See ya later!

                                        - Leanne

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From: louisp@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Louis Peppou)
Subject: Re: AM
Originator: louisp@sydrd19
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 04:35:48 GMT


In article <1992Dec15.134603.27614@tpl68k0.tplrd.tpl.oz.au>, andrewf@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Andrew Fraser) writes:
>	    Anybody know the name of the male vocalist in that one hit (Video
>	    Killed The Radio Star) wonder band "The Buggles"?
Steve Horn?


Now my question:
	On the ABC adverts for "Classic Operas on Video",
	what is the 2nd tune that they show,
	the one with the two women poncing around in a boat?
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From: Fernando.Jose.Olmos@f366.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Fernando Jose Olmos)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Santana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:50:06

Any Santana fanatics out there that I can chat with ??


... All I need is a Wave and a board to surf it on.
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From: jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jamie Scuglia)
Subject: Re: HITS FM Melbourne 89.9 HURRY THIS WEEK ONLY!
Organization: Monash General Access UNIX System
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:32:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.035222.13267@trl.oz.au> lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron Lightwood) writes:
>Are you aged between 10 and 30 and like pop music, dance music, metal
>and rock?
>Are you sick and tired of our commercial FM rock stations neglecting all 
>those fresh pop and dance songs which are so popular, which you could probably
>hear lots of on the radio anywhere else in the western world outside Australia?  
[stuff deleted]
>Are you sick and tired of our commercial FM rock stations only playing the
>same safe old songs over and over again and only safe new songs that sound
>pretty much the same?  At least that's what they're like in Melbourne.
>
>Then HITS FM is for you!!!!!

I first picked up HITS FM last Monday (Dec 7th) in the morning.  Ever
since, I have been a devoted listener to that radio station - the only
radio station in Melbourne that plays fresh new music!!!  I was sick of all
that classic rock FOX-FM and MMM dished up to us in Melbourne.   And
any new music that those stations played was either already out of date,
or only music from the likes of Phil Collins, and other so-called
'radio-friendly' artists.  By the time you read this, HITS FM would
have finished their temporary broadcast.  But during the week they
were on air, they brought with them a breath of fresh air into the
very stale area of Melbourne radio.  At last, I was hearing songs by
Kylie Minogue, Euphoria, Guns 'N' Roses, Toni Pearen, the KLF, C & C Music
Factory, ALT & The Lost Civilization, Ratcat, Peter Andre, and many,
many, other artists that, despite their huge popularity, were snubbed 
by Melbourne radio.  And a lot of new music was being played as well - music 
that other radio stations wouldn't even dream of playing until it began 
charting.  HITS FM catered brilliantly for the under 30's market, unlike most
other radio stations who must cater for older people with their
non-stop marathons of old song after old song.  I will certainly
be supporting HITS FM when they next hit the air-waves, and I'll
be ditching the FOX and MMM with pleasure.
From: leanne@DIALix.oz.au (Leanne Archer)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: AM
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:13:40 +0800
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In <1992Dec15.134603.27614@tpl68k0.tplrd.tpl.oz.au> andrewf@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Andrew Fraser) writes:

>    Anybody know the name of the male vocalist in that one hit (Video
>    Killed The Radio Star) wonder band "The Buggles"?

>Andrew Fraser_____________________________T_e_l_e_c_t_r_o_n_i_c_s__|/\  ______
>Mail: andrewf@tplrd.tpl.oz.au                  Pacing Systems         \/

  Hello :-)

      The vocalist was Trevor Horn who later on sang with Yes. Keyboard
  player Geoff Downes also from the Buggles joined Yes in 1980. Trevor
  Horn also went on to produce after the reformation of Yes with Jon
  Anderson on the '90125' album in 1983. He has also gone on to produce
  other bands, most recently Seal.

                                   - Leanne
  
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From: jking@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au (Jason  King)
Subject: Sounds of 501's
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 22:38:11 GMT

I've been asked by a friend to see if anyone has heard of a CD released
approx. 2-4 years ago called "Sounds of 501's".  It contains songs used
in Levi 501's ads.

If someone knows how my friend can get hold of a copy, please mail me
at the address below.   Thanks!!

I'm sorry if this is not the right place to put this request but I didn't
know where else it would go.

-- 
Jason King					"I'm gonna do you slowly, mate!"
Email: J.King@nursing.utas.edu.au		Paul Keating.
University of Tasmania at Launceston		Prime Minister, Australia
From: ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Gigs in Sydney
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:31:58 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Distribution: aus
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axg708@cscgpo.anu.edu.au (Ashraf Ghebranious) writes:

>Can any one fill me in on what/who is playing between 22-12-92 and early 
>January and where etc. I would like to see/hear what is happening in Sydney 
>in regards to live music

28th Dec afternoon	Bondi Pavillion 

3 african and reggae bands including the incomparable Shakey Roots

-ricko
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From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Live reviews - Shamen, Nick Cave, PWEI, Primal Scream, Lush
Keywords: Melbourne, Australia
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 01:33:08 GMT


In article <a.norrish.29.0@trl.oz.au>, a.norrish@trl.oz.au (Reg Trademark) writes:
|> It's been a bonanza of imported talent in Melbourne, and as there's 
|> been no other reviews, you have to suffer mine.

[others deleted]
 
|> Back to the Metro on Thu. 10 Dec. for Primal Scream. Dr. Alex 
|> Patterson was guest DJ, doing no Orb-like sounds, not really techno 
|> either, just fine dance music.

Absoluteley - in fact, I would say that I had a better time dancing
to Alex Patterson's discs than during the whole Primals gig.
I'd say the Primals were good - but not that good (not $26 'good'?)

|> It was 30 odd degrees celcius in Melbourne on Fri. 11 Dec., not ideal 
|> weather to see Lush at the Palace. When we arrived (fashionably late, 

|> night, you missed the concert of the year, and of the 90s so far. 
|> (Still no-one beats the Tackhead concerts of the late 80s). If I see 
|> a mediocre performance by a band, I may enjoy it, (due to just seeing 
|> the band) but I won't praise it. This concert however, was perfect. 
|> It was incredibly loud (although not painful to me, the two people I 
|> went with both moved to the back), but the mix was faultless. No 

S'funny you say that. The weird thing about the Lush gig to me was that
the drums sounded very plastic and 'out there' (waving their sticks in ya
face) - to me they were stomping all over the lovely harmonies & layered
shimmery guitar. Definitely a distraction.

|> until I realised the sound was a human voice. Talking later, we sort 
|> of guessed that their show would only ever be either a killer or a 
|> shocker, never inbetween. If something goes wrong, the music is that 

Emma said that the main problem she finds when gigging overseas is collecting
the appropriate effects units for her guitar. Power supplies and portability
problems come second to her jinx for electronic equipment! (not a good
jinx to have when your sound relies upon it) This would probably have
more to do with a show being either a killer or dud. This gig - smooth.

brian
(eardrum buzz)
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: PETER.GORMLEY@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Peter Gormley")
Subject: Buffalo
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:21:53 GMT

Sorry if this is a duplicate posting, I don't think my previous one got
through. I am looking for information about a 70's rock group called Buffalo.
I have read that this was Peter Wells band prior to Rose Tattoo. Can anyone
tell me what Buffalo was like?  Did they sound like Rose Tattoo? If not
what was their sound? And is any of their music available on cd? Thanks
for the info.

                       Peter
Newsgroups: aus.politics
From: richardd@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Richard Davies)
Subject: Re: Medicare == manslaughter?
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Distribution: aus
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:51:25 GMT

Brendan Mahony (brendan@cs.uq.oz.au) wrote:

: A good solution to the current problems is to double the medical school intakes.
: And also to allow a wider cross-section of the community to enter by
: widening the narrow academic qualifying standards (by which I don't mean
: any form of affirmative action, rather I mean a more vaocational
: approach, taking into account the genuine interest in caring for the sick).
: Lets face it, general practice and even surgery is not really one of the more
: intellectually demanding vocations. Many people could handle it who are
: currently rejected from our medical schools.

I don't really know enough to comment on the increase in medical school
intake except to say, given that medicine is a very long course, it is
difficult to estimate how many doctors will be required, given factors
such as immigration and emmigration of doctors, unknowns regarding what
specialties the new students will enter into, future economic
circumstances and changing needs within the community. 

With regards to the selection criteria of medical students, I think you
have a valid point. Newcastle uni has for many years used an interview
process for its applicants to its B. Med. I have heard, that as of next
year, Monash will also be conducting interviews. I think that these go
some way towards selecting people who are more suited to medicine. There
is a very large amount of memory work in medicine. Aptitude testing
could also be more specific for some areas eg. testing people for their
pattern recognition skills may be useful for poeple wanting to do
radiology or anatomical pathology.

Another idea is to make medicine a post-grad course, as it is in England
and the U.S. I think the University of Queensland is aiming to have a
larger post-grad intake in the future, as is the University of NSW. A
fair amount of most pre-clinical years of medicine courses are basically
biological science degrees. Making medicine post-grad has a few
advantages as I see it. One is that if you change your mind after three
years and decide you don't really want to be a doctor, at least you have
a degree. The other (more important) reason is that I belive that people
who enter medicine are generally too young (immature) to embark on such
a demanding and vocational course. University is very different from
school and many school leavers still are not very certain what they want
to do.

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Newsgroups: aus.politics
Subject: Re: Hewson carefully shoots himself in the foot-in-mouth.
From: mjp@itd.dsto.gov.au
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:46:19 CST

yar@cs.su.oz.au (Ray Loyzaga) writes:

>GST (mark I) is currently exempted on second had car sales, home sales
>(new homes get the flow on of GST in the materials and building process)
>but no tax is paid on the total price and medical expenses.
>It has nothing to do with the "essentials of life". It has a lot to do with
>providing a positive stimulus in that direction. It also has a lot to do
>with the fact that GST on most of these wouldn't work. Are you advocating
>GST on HECS, just to be fair? Or 15% on share transactions, life insurance,
>car insurance, bank services like loans, deposits, withdrawals ...
>now I can handle a GST on agents fees but the underlying transaction
>must remain GST free.
Isnt' this discriminatory. How can the government decide
that these things are good for the country? Shouldn't they
be left up to market forces. Isn't this distorting the whole
leveled playing field. Won't these exemptions be subject to
distortions of personal interest and lobby groups?

>Why are private school education and shares investments limited to Liberal
>voters? Do you actually believe this? Do you actually believe that Liberals
>are toffy nosed bozos that send their kids to private schools, invest oodles
>into the stockmarket, own a home or two, and use private medicine exclusively?

>I suppose you also believe in the counter stereo-type that Labor voters
>are uneducated welfare recipients, who don't invest, go to public school
>until they are legally able to leave, can barely read/write, vote in ticks
>and crosses and sit around waiting for the government to do more for them.

No I certainly don't believe in either of these stereotypes,
but many of the people high up in the liberal party do fit
them, and there is usually some truth in stereotypes (after
all that's how they come about). The problem is to step back
and see if the stereotype is out of date, or if the
idividual fits it.

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