From: kevin@shady.UUCP (Kevin Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.sys5.r3,biz.sco.general,comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: The Future of ESIX (was Re: PC-clone UNIX Software Buyer's Guide)
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:41:19 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Organization: ShadeTree Software, Inc.

In article <C198AH.D47@trauma.rn.com> larry@trauma.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
 : >fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
 : >
 : >>This is where you seem to travel on different wavelength. There are no 
 : >>other options. That is the full price. 
 : >
 : >Sure, how about Delvelopment?  How about NFS/TCP?  How about X11R5?
 : >How about users wanting to run DOS under Unix?
 : >
 : >Many options -- unless your users want to do nothing but
 : >'ls' all day :)
 : >
 : >>value if I don't want or need it? I can't take it to the bank and cash it can 
 : >>I?
 : >
 : >There is no money involved.  My point is why spend 1295 on SCO for just
 : >a OS when for the same amount you can get all the extras (mentioned above
 : >plus more?)
 : >
 : >>Again and again and again - who needs all that? If they do, let them buy it. 
 : >>There must be a market there somewhere for such people. For the rest of the 
 : >>folks the OS will do just fine, thank you.
 : >
 : >Just because you have it doesn't mean you need to use it.  It's better
 : >to have it and not use it then to go out and buy it later.  ALso, with
 : >Dell you can choose to not install any package -- then if you need it -
 : >just go back to the distribution tape.  
 : >
 : >-- 
 : >Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.use.com
 : >keeper of the Gator                                   uucp: uunet!gator!larry
 : 

You (Larry) don't seem to realize that most (nearly all) business users
don't know the shell from a hole in the ground.  The don't want to do 'ls'
all day or anything else remotely resembling UNIX. You make a step by step
list for them on how to start and stop the computer and they log directly
into some accounting application, where they stay till they log out at
night.  Their applications run on dumb terminals or PC's emulating
terminals, all hooked up with good ol' RS232, which is probably left over
from their previous computer.  For $200 apiece and $10000 to rewire the
building I guess they could network all their PC's into the system and for
$1000 or so apiece they could replace their terminals with PC's.  Then 
what?  They all run tiny term or some other network terminal emulator.
You want to give X windows to the clerk who still has trouble with order
entry after six weeks?  Add $500 per PC for X software and replace all the
old 286's while you are at it.

NOT!

If the printer stops printing or terminals stop displaying or lots of funny
looking messages are zooming by on the console, they call someone.  Most
don't have anyone you could remotly call a DP manager, just someone in
charge in calling the SUPPORT person for the device or program that isn't
doing what is expected.

These folks aren't dumb but they have enough to do entering orders, sending
out invoices and making their widgets.
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