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From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: Sys6 and FunKeys
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 09:34:36 EDT

steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Steve Fenwick) writes:

> There is this real neat init called FunKeys out there... it lets you do
> screen dumps to printer and disk, you can eject disks, blank the screen,
> shutdown, or just pause the processor, just by holing down control, option,
> and another key.  However, under System 6 in the finder, right when you
> hold down option and control, the system locks up BAD.  YOu have to turn
> the computer off, then on again.  Just thought I'd warn you guys.

Actually, the docs that came with it said something like "Don't try and use 
this with System 6 when it comes out!" - and in any event, it's got a 
version number of 0.000002 beta or something B-).

> 
> 
> ProLine:  steve@pro-hindugods                  |  I know
> Internet: steve@pro-hindugods.cts.com          |  that you
> UUCP:     pro-hindugods!steve%ttardis@nosc.mil |  know.....


Marc Sira               |
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From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 & AMR 3.5" 800K drive
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:43:27 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

[Re: AMR 3.5 drives hanging-up the system]

I have come across this problem on every AMR drive I have ever tested at QC.
It is this flaw that resulted in me returning my AMR drive and spending the
extra $100 on an Apple drive.

The only way to get around this problem is to insert a disk, or disconnect
the drive.

	Later,
		...Mike
-- 
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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Backup II
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:27:08 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Thu Apr 09 92 at 09:14:31 (EST)

> From: duveneck@cs.uwp.edu (Sandy Duveneck)
> Before installing system 6, I thought I should back my vulcan up as I'd never
> done it since I got it.   I have a rom01 gs with 2.5meg, a vulcan 40 in slot
> 7 and a sider 10 in slot 6 (which was disabled since I was going to backup to
> 5.25s).  When I tell backup to backup ae1 (the 32meg partition), it makes
> noises likes it's building the directory and then chokes and says invalid
> pathname.  I'm assuming it doesn't like /ae1 since I don't give it a pathname
> for the floppy drive.  It worked fine on /ae2 which is the rest of the drive
> but with only a few files on it.  I can back up individual folders, but
> that's a bit tedious.

Hmm, curious error message and not the one I would have expected you would
get, however, no matter what the message, Backup 2 won't do the backup for
you.

I assume you are running some version of GS/OS. Backup 2 was designed for 8
bit Apple II's and won't handle some of the files that GS/OS can have on disk
(forked files). 

> I logged on to aol and looked for another utility or a better version of
> Backup II, but no luck.  I tried downloading UWGS.shk, but 90 minutes into
> what was supposed to be a 76 minute download, I noticed nothing was happening
> (the thermometer was sitting at about 80percent, but not moving.)

I've never tried the backup portion of UWGS, however, depending on what time
you were on AOL, what you saw is nothing unusual. Very Long downloads may
FREQUENTLY not move the thermometer for VERY long periods of times, especially
during the main off-prime hours (9pm-Midnight Eastern). 
 
ProSEL 16 has a nice backup utility, or you might try Vitesse's Bakkup
program. 
 
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From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Subject: Re: Andy departs... (was Re: System 6 Launcher!)
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:30:49 GMT

In article <65403@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:
>    *** begin paranoid Robocop 3 fantasy ***

Bwah ha ha ha! :-D

>    Cupertino, 1992.  The entire Apple II group goes on strike, except for
>    Dave!  Street gangs armed with Macintosh PowerBooks threaten to overrun
>    the city.

Picture it... :-)

>       ROM Version 4

Now we know... ;-)

>       Menu bar:  Apple File Edit Options Weapons Networks

Next Finder perhaps? }*-]

>          (4) [CLASSIFIED]

Of course. You still work for Apple! :-)

>  (4) Have a sense of humor whenever possible, and the rest of
>      the time.

I *LOVE* you man! And I thought that I was the only one left around here
with a sense of humor... :-) Let me buy you a Killian's Red next time you're
in town... :-)
From: platkus@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Shawn W Platkus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Sys 6 and Transprog
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:20:46 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr9.115015.24737@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>In article <m0lYNWV-0000KjC@crash.cts.com> kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) writes:
>
>[ ]
>> 
>>You would more LIKELY proceed along these lines...
>>1) Figure out what formulas are needed.
>>2) Create the formulas in Formulate. (each separately of course)
>>3) Save each formulate (in quickdraw form).
>>4) Enter AWGS (if using Quickdraw form) or GW III (if using SHR form) and
>>compose your document.
>
>This way seems totally unacceptable to be. That's why Formulate GS should be
>an NDA. You don't want to save things like alpha sup 2 sub k . Basically in
>typing most technical documents you'd have removed 1/3 of the document. Worse,
>this 1/3rd would be scattered all over the place.
>
>Philip
>philip@utstat.toronto.edu


What are you talking about?  You won't have 1/3 the doc removed or all over
the place.  Simply cut the formula out of formulate and paste it into your
document.  Or, if you have a lot of formulas, simply create them all at once
in Formulate, and then save them all to the RAM disk, and the as you type the
doc, import them into it at the right places.  Then save the document, and
forget about the stuff on the RAM disk.  Then you have everything in one
document, and its just as simple as having Formulate in a desk accessory plus
it doesn't hog all that memory that the DA would.


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From: delaneyg@wl.aecl.ca
Subject: RE: ResLin
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 14:45:49 GMT

It was posted there already.  also I put up some older docs
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: julichjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Joseph H Julicher)
Subject: Sonic Blaster and System 6.0
Reply-To: julichjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Joseph H Julicher)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:46:51 GMT

I was wondering if anybody else has had any problems with the software included  
with sonic blaster and sys 6.  I can't digitize more than a split second until  
I fool with some of the record speed scrollers then when I hit record the  
system hangs.  I have 3 megs of ram and a ROM 01.  My software works fine under  
5.04 so I assume that a system tool has bee updated to be incompatable with the  
program.  Is there an upgrade or fix with the new Sonic Blaster packages.

--
Joseph Julicher at Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
julichjh@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

Computer Engineering Major
Always looking for new toys for my 6 apples.
From: synthgenius@cedar.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: at least we lasted... :)
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:42:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: math.1992Apr8.192432.3146
Reply-To: SYNTHGENIUS%oak.decnet@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: The CIRCA Underground

mGee, I remember hearing all that chatter a



Geebout how great the AMiga w

Gee, I remember hearing about how greate the Amiga was,
and while I was reading this months Computer Monthly,
I understand that they're being disconntinued or at least
put in the same unsupported boat as us?

-SG?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: Here is the FIX for the new P8 problems
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:46:04 GMT

unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown Matt) writes:

>	Serious qeustion here..  Why is letting the RamFAST do the remapping
>better than letting P8 do the mapping?
>	Since you can already turn off the mapping with the Ramfast, as other

Bzzt! Thanks for playing. ALL smartport devices get doubly mapped, not just 
the ramfast partitions you pick. It doesn't quite make sense, but I had copious
device lists in copy 2 plus to prove it (drove c2+ quite insane after a while.)

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ tybalt.caltech.edu
From: smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sang J. Moon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Buying Hard Drives from Altech
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:34:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NASA GSFC Code 534.2

In summary, I would suggest that people do not buy the reconditioned hard
drives from Altech.  Mine lasted only two years, and although they replaced
it, the hard drive lasted only one more year.  By then the warranty was
over, and they said they could not help me anymore.  The hard drive did not
come with any documentation or utilities.  However, I have bought other
items from Altech which I have been satisfied with, but I would not trust
buying reconditioned items which are sensitive to problems like hard drives
or other mechanical devices (i.e. disk drives) from them.

Sang J. Moon
smoon@gsfcmail.nasa.gov or smoon@strfleet.gsfc.nasa.gov
Disclaimer: These comments are mine and do not reflect my organization.
From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Follow-up, AWGS Laserprinter question
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:23:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun Apr 05 92 at 21:04:02 (EST)

> First of all, I have a knock-off (Abaton under the Everex label)
> laserprinter that very fully emulates a full-scale Apple LaserWriter
> (full level 1 postscript, 36 built-in fonts.)  It is connected to my GS
> via the serial printer port and works just fine, especially with
> WordPerfect.

The APPLE Laserwriter driver (to date the ONLY printer driver for the GS that
supports Postscript) ONLY USES APPLETALK AS A CONNECTION. PERIOD!
 
WorkPerfect does not use the Standard GS interface, so I'm not surprised yu
were able to get it to work through the serial port.
 
> So, my primary question is, will AWGS work with such a configuration?
> (One of my earlier respondents thought that the laserprinter driver ONLY
> works over AppleTalk.)

Ditto.

> My secondary question is, can it use postscript fonts or does it always
> use GS screen fonts?  (whether 1x, 2x, or 4x I don't care -- I want
> postscript print commands, not graphic images, for characters)

Yes. The printer driver uses Postscript fonts...if you are careful to use only
GS Screen fonts that are mapped to the Postscript ones (i.e. Times, Helvetica,
Avant Garde, Bookman, NewCenturySchlbk, etc.). If your document uses bit
mapped fonts (OTHER than those I mentioned plus Courier, Symbol, ZapfChancery,
ZapfDingbats) then the driver will print them as bit mapped fonts...at 1x
resolution (which really sucks). 
 
If you use font substitution on the driver NewYork (bit mapped) will be
substituted by Times, Monaco by Courier, Shaston or Geneva by Helvetica. 
 
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From: frank@terapin.com (Chun Li)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: RamFAST error code - 0e
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:37:15 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

Many of you have RamFAST out there, I am wondering if you guys ever
encountered "RamFAST fatal memory fault - 0e", I've been getting this lately (
even before I installed 6.0 ), and it always happens after a file write.  Does
it sound like I have a bad memory chip??  My RamFAST is rev.C with ROM v1.11.

Thanx.

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From: dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Lovin' System 6
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:55:34 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr8.113527.19953@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umpistun@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Brent Pistun) writes:
>I saw System 6.0 for the first time last week, and I was wondering
>what you all think the big deal is about it.
>
>For one thing, it isn't a signifigant enhancement of version 5.  For
>another, it's a dog.  It's slow, buggy and USELESS.  Also, don't forget,
>IT'S JUST A ****ing PROGRAM LAUNCHER!!!  It really does nothing for you.

Your demo was incomplete.  Massively incomplete.  You sure it was 6.0?

System 6 is a SIX-DISK set, certainly much more than a program launcher
(I assume you mean the Finder).

When you run *old* (and new) GS/OS applications under System 6, for
example, you can access HFS disks (as used with the Mac), and there
are lots of other places where old applications behave in new ways.

For example, alert windows now have keyboard equivalents for all
buttons (almost), not just Return for the default; and when the
system asks for a disk, you don't have to hit a key (it continues
automatically).

There's around 300(?) pages of documentation for all the "behind the
scenes" changes that affect programmers.


>The Apple II line has made a signifigant contribution to personal 
>computer technology, but the day of the Apple II line is gone.  It's
>dead.  Finished.  History.

ACK!  You mean my paychecks are no good??  I'd better go raid my
accounts before the bank figures it out.

Seriously, I'm not the only one still making a profit on Apple II
work.  It ain't over 'til the fatbits sing....

>Send all replies to /dev/null.

No thanks.
-- 
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Apple II System Software Engineer         |   P.O. Box 875
America Online: Dave Lyons                |   Cupertino, CA 95015-0875
GEnie:DAVE.LYONS  CompuServe:72177,3233 Internet:dlyons@apple.com

My opinions are my own, not Apple's.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Paul BaJa Benson)
Subject: Re: System 6
Organization: Vanderbilt Univ., Engineering (SERG), Nashvegas, TN
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:35:59 GMT

In article <kkJwiB2w164w@bluemoon.rn.com> t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson) writes:
~I -DID- remove the p8 partitions - how many times do I have to say this? 
~That was the FIRST that that I did (it was very obvious - Sys6's P8 was 
~going to re-map anyways, so why bother with RF's)?.
~
~And the RamFast.Driver program still doesn't work!
~
~Tc Wilson/The Captain           "Programming is an art form
~t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com        that fights back."

 I sent you some mail, and either you never got it or it didn't work and you
 didn't tell me.  What I suggested was to disconnect all of your drives from
 the smartport and boot from your hard-drive.  What this might prevent is
 P8's dislike of having >14 devices (even though you may not have over 14
 physical devices).  Try it and see what happens.
-- 
  Paul 'BaJa' Benson
  Vanderbilt University - Space Electronics Research Group
  GEnie: P.Benson1     Net: benson@vuse.vanderbilt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bb252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James L. Brookes)
Subject: Re: Various System 6.0 wierdness...
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 05:21:07 GMT


jamesz@pro-friends.cts.com (James Zajkowski) writes:
 
>In <1992Apr12.013635.27302@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>
>bb252@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James L. Brookes) writes:
 
>>2) some icons for p8 programs (NTGS in this case) won't run off the desktop,
>>meaning you double-click on a MOD and it responds with "This file must reside
>>on a ProDOS volume" (which it does).
 
>Simple answer (I hope):
 
I wish :)
 
>The finder is using the GS/OS pathname character, the colon ( ":" ).
 
>Prodos 8 really HATES the colon.  It prefers the slash ("/").
 
>The colon originally started on the mac, so NT is saying that the file is
>"not on a prodos volume"...  there is really no way to fix this, so pretty
>much forget about launching MODs through the finder.  Maybe someone will come
>along with a finder extra to change the messagecenter's open request to
>old-style, slash seperated pathnames.
 
Nice hypothesis, but it doesn't hold water for this reason:  I can launch
NT MODs fine from folders, but -not- from the desktop (that is, I move the
file onto the desktop and it won't launch).
 
Any other ideas folks? :)
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From: kaz@iastate.edu (Jeff T Kaczmarek)
Subject: Ram Chips
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:13:49 GMT

I am looking for some Ram chips for my Orange Micro Rampack 4gs. They need to
be 256 x 4, 100 ns or faster. If anyone has any to sell, I am looking for at
least a meg if not a bit more. THanks. (PS, please respond by mail.)

Rob

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Nostalgia Contest
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:05:26 GMT

ppuskari@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Petar E Puskarich) writes:
>Does anyone out there have the original AppleWriter 1.0  ??????

I do.  The cursoring pissed me off so much that I finally moved to
ScreenWriter to get the 70-columns generated in monochrome hires
graphics and upper and lower case shown on screen (oooh).


>Or how about an old Bell and Howell black Apple II with all the socketed 
>Chips.  The only machine I have that has never broken.

The most durable thing I've got has been an Epson MX-80 printer.  It's
been running steadily for 10 years and has gone through tons of paper
and ribbons, and it's never malfunctioned once!  And it still produces
better print than some of the new dot matrixes like the ProWriter.
-- 
Predestination was doomed from the start.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Sira)
Subject: Re: SyQuest Cartridges Readable?
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 23:00:06 EDT

trentc@pro-calgary.cts.com (Trent Corney) writes:

> Only in the utility program eh? Not from what I have seen. I have a Ramfast
> rev D with ROMs 2.01e on it. I have a SyQuest removable hooked to. I got
> System 6, installed it and ran Apple's Advanced Utilities that came with
> it. I tried to partition a cartridge to a 44 MB HFS partition. It said it
> worked, but once I got back to the Finder and did an about on it, all I had
> was a 32 MB volume. I seem to be missing a mere 12 MB.
> 
> The Ramfast has problems.
> 
You may be right, and if so, I apologise. I was pretty convinced the RamFAST 
could handle bigger partitions (I'm still not _totally_ unconvinced - I 
haven't gone through the pain of repartitioning my hd yet). However, Drew 
mentioned recently that there is a ROM upgrade to 3.00a available 
(cost=$15.00). This may indicate that you're right about the 2.01x ROM.

BTW! To anyone who has a RamFAST with a ROM revision LESS THAN 2.01a, you 
MUST have an upgrade to use the new P8. (This may be your problem, TC). The 
upgrade to 2.01c is _free_ to such owners; contact Drew about it if you have 
the old ROM.


Marc Sira               |
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From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: System 6.0
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:04:42 GMT

In article <65312@apple.Apple.COM> dlyons@Apple.COM (David A Lyons) writes:

[ ]
>
>Don't jump the gun...to date, all problem reports we've investigated have
>turned out to have easy work-arounds (reconfigure RamFAST, remove CloseView
>or EasyAccess if they're causing problems with certain applications, etc).

6.0 works fine for me except, and I realize this is not a high priority
item to many, the fact that you don't get to see DWGS's title screen for
some reason. It would be very nice to have an easy answer to that one!

[ ]

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com (Tc Wilson)
Subject: Re: System 6
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 03:49:07 EDT

bazyar@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
> 
>    Umm.. I hate to be the bearer of bad tidings, but the problem is
> with the RAMfast.  I'm quite certain this has been discussed before.
> Turn off P8 partition mapping on your RAMfast, and things will be
> kosher once again.
>    And, reinstall your RAMfast driver.  I use my RAMfast driver
> no problem.
> --
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I -DID- remove the p8 partitions - how many times do I have to say this? 
That was the FIRST that that I did (it was very obvious - Sys6's P8 was 
going to re-map anyways, so why bother with RF's)?.

And the RamFast.Driver program still doesn't work!


Tc Wilson/The Captain           "Programming is an art form
t.captain@bluemoon.rn.com        that fights back."