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From: a0h9342@zeus.tamu.edu (HAQUE, ANISUL)
Subject: Re: Nirod C. Choudhuri
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:28:00 GMT

In article <20JUL199222401802@vax2.concordia.ca>, debchat@vax2.concordia.ca 
(DEB CHATTERJEE) writes...

> My dear Anindya Banerjee,
> 
>  Sorry for being abusive about your guru (Nirod C.Choudhuri) on the SCB. A
> point that I might remind you is that this old crow (N.C.C) has taken up a
> project in establishing the sexual relationships between Kobiguru and his
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> bouthan Kadambini Debi. (I do not agree with Tagore's philosophies on his
> attitude towards 1930 Chittagong movement, but, definitely his is of supreme
> intellect.) Denigrating ALL and ANYTHING that is Indian has been your gurus
> favorite pastime - to earn his British bread and butter. This earns him a big
> hand from those people who divided Bengal twice - 1905 and 1947. Moreover that
> Bengali (is he one ?) does not hesitate criticize Durga Puja that is dear to
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> both Hindus and Moslems in Bengal. How do you think that I should value his
> `elitist' works with kudos - that you seem to have ????? I do feel that we
> Bengalis may not have the world's best religion/ culture, e.t.c but what is
> ours is ours. It is an admixture of the sweet/sour and bitter - because that's
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> what our human life is. Ole' Nirod may not think so, but, his comments and
> `noble' conclusions cannot be taken with respect or any seriousness. Thus we
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> must continue to ignore that guy whose main objective has been to attempt in
> taunting anything that is Bengali/ Indian or from the subcontinent !!!


I don't like Nirod Chowdhury either, (he is a snob) but the reasons you have 
mentioned to discard him aren't strong enough. OK, he doesn't have enough 
respect for what is Indian. So? Does it make his comments null? Not necessarily.
Yet his writings may contain enough substance. The fact that he is studing 
Tagore's personal life and he has come up with a hypothesis which isn't sweet 
to us, or that he criticizes Durga-Puja need not be viewed with animosity. We 
don't have to accept every tradition and every accepted belief at its face 
value without any question. Remember, "Satidaha" was once our tradition!!! We 
don't have to like what he says, but we better listen. Ignoring someone just 
because I don't like his attitude wouldn't lead us anywhere. I agree, our 
culture is an admixture of sweet/sour and bitter (like any other culture), but 
most important it is also a changing one. And challenging things that are 
established is what keep the culture rolling.

> - deb chatterjee
>(a good samaritan)

Regards,

Anisul Haque
Texas A & M University
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: kazi@mercury.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi)
Subject: CFV on talk.politics.asia.south
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:01:23 GMT

A call for vote on the talk.politics hierarchy has been announced on the
relevant newsgroups. The voting also calls for the creation of a group
called talk.politics.asia.south which will be used for SAARC political
discussions. I have not been following the RFD's but I am appending the
actual CFV. Please vote:


Article 54445 of news.groups:
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,talk.politics.misc
From: R0701@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: Re: Tuki Taki from B'desh
Organization: CSU
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:35:11 GMT

Thanks to Farhad Ahmed for Tuki Taki Khobor. Keep it up.
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HAQUE, CLEVELAND THEKE
ALLAH HAFEZ
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: kazi@mercury.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi)
Subject: Re: NEWS BRIEF
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:07:49 GMT

In article <l6rakhINN48f@spim.mips.com> reddy@mips.com (T.S. Reddy) writes:
>
>     If I'm not mistaken, Star TV operating out of Hong Kong is beaming BBC TV
>to the sub-continent. I was told by my parents that they are able to get
>6 channels including BBC and MTV in Bangalore (in South India) via a cable 
>network laid by some entrepreneur with a central satellite dish. I'm sure 
>the footprints of the satellites broadcasting these signals cover Bangladesh 
>as well, thus a satellite dish there could pull in these broadcasts as well.
>Perhaps this is what Abu Hasan was referring to.

Satellite dishes have become quite "common" in Bangladesh. Both MTV and 
Star-TV broadcasts are being received. The Bangladesh Government has
licensed two companies to sell satellite dishes in Bangladesh. The major
customers have been the myriad of multi storied apartment complexes that 
have sprouted up in Dhaka in recent years. My brother told me that their 
company has sold well over 30 dishes in the last two months. The rights 
to CNN broadcasts are owned by a chap named Jaigirdar. I have forgotten
Jughead's company's name, but he plays a mean hand of 29. :=)

>T.S.Reddy (e-mail: reddy@mips.com)

-Zunaid Kazi
 kazi@cis.udel.edu
 302-456-3493
From: kabir@kabir.Eng.Sun.COM (Ihtisham Kabir)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Seba Prokashoni.........
Date: 30 Jul 1992 17:59:31 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kabir@kabir.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: kabir

Huh? Sheba Prokashoni and no mention of Kazi Anwar Hossain? I must be
getting old!

- Ihtisham Kabir (ex-Kuasha-Bhoyal-fan)

ps, how about a brief history of this illustrious publishing house?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: rahin@scs.leeds.ac.uk (M A Rahin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Olympics: Shooting results, anyone?
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:40:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies

In article <1992Jul30.150447.21896@udel.edu> kazi@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi) writes:
>whether any one of our 4 sprinters is going to participate in the 100m
>sprint. Isn't Golam Ambia the current fastest man in Bangladesh?
>              ^^^^^^^^^^^

He was on the TV about half an hour ago for his 100m hit. He finished 6th with 
a time of 11.06 s. He had a very bad start and did quite well to finsh at 6th.

>-zunaid kazi
> kazi@cis.udel.edu

- Rahin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: asif@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Go Dallas Cowboys
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:46:02 GMT


		Go Cowboys.
	        ===========

  	Friends,
		Fall is around the corner. Which means football season is 
coming. I wish all the succeess to Dallas Cowboys, my favorite team . At the
same time I wish succeess to all the favorite teams of all the posters in SCB.
Sundays will not be boring any more!!!
-- 
=============================================================================
           Asif Ibrahim                      Asif@vaxb.acs.unt.edu          
           University of North Texas         Asif@vm.acs.unt.edu            
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 10:53:21 EDT
From: Krishin Asnani <krish@ans.net>
Subject: SATYAJIT RAYS APU TRILOGY IN NEWYORK, NEWYORK



As part of it Summer Foreign Film Festival '92, Symphony Space ,
located at 95th Street and Broadway will be showing Satyajit Rays "Apu
Trilogy" on Sunday, August 2, 1992.  The times are:

4:00 PM Panther Panchali
6:15 PM Aparjito
8:30 PM The World of Apu

Admission is $10 (for all 3 films).
             $6 for 2nd and/or 3rd film only.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: mermmzh@engvms.unl.edu
Subject: Re: Bangladesh in Olympics
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:25:34 CST

In article <1992Jul28.172327.1@engvms.unl.edu>, mermmzh@engvms.unl.edu writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.112837.24262@lut.ac.uk>, rahin@scs.leeds.ac.uk (M A Rahin) writes:
>> 
>> Some asked about Bangladeshi participants in the 25th Olympiad. They are :
>> 	Shahana			Shooting
>> 	Mokhlesur Rahman	Swimming
>> 	Golam Ambia		Sprint
>> 	Shahanuddin Chy		Sprint
>> 	Mehedi Hasan		Sprint
>> 	Shah Jalal		Sprint.
>> 
>> - Rahin
> 
> Bangladesh is participating in  Free Pistol, 100 and 200 meter sprint,
> 100 and 200 meter butterfly and 100x4 meter relay. BTW Shahana won a
> gold meldal for Bangladesh in the South Asain shooting last month in
> Colombo.
> 
> 
> ---Zakir
>
Correction: Moklesur is participating in Breaststroke, not butterfly
and Shahana is parcipating in Air Rifle, not Free Pistol.

---Zakir
From: shanto@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Seba Prokashoni.........
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:32:15 GMT
Organization: Mankato State University

Hi there.......

Anybody here a fan of Seba Prokashoni??........
I like their books; though I don't have a very good collection......
I haven't been in touch with them in at least six months......
I was wondering if Qazi Mahbub Hossain has written any new ones.....
I like especially the Masud Rana and the Westerns......
I don't quite like Jameel shaheb though.......
I like the translations too........

Any comments on that??.......

If anyone wants to know about Seba and it's history; ask me......
I am in the family.......

Shukrobar........
		--------- PeAcE to aLl......
					----------- Sharful.......
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: hassan@bnr.ca (Abu Hassan)
Subject: Re: Bangladesh and the Olympics?
Organization: bnr
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:19:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.134631.7132@udel.edu> kazi@mercury.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi) writes:
>It must be my bad karma that caused me to be in the United States during
>the Olympics. My question: Did Bangladesh send anyone?

Yes, probably a team of 8 members in events like swimming, shooting.
 
>
>-Zunaid Kazi
> kazi@cis.udel.edu
>
From: misra@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Boo!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Bangladesh in Olympics
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:44:35 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu

ahaque@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Abul Haque) writes:

>	My suggestion is: Bangladesh Govt. should form a committee to look
>	after the events of the olymics and recommend to the Govt. to
>	establish facilities for those events in which the athlets from
>	have the potential to perform better. Archery, shooting, fencing
>	and many many other events do not require much physical strengths
>	rather it needs special skills to perform. I think we have the
>	potential to win many gold medals in future olympics if the Govt.
>	put more money in the sports and build many facilities not only
>	in the capital city but all major cities of the country and hold
>	periodic competitions in all those events.

 	I hate to say this, I have yet to come up with a good reason why
counries such as our spend any money on sports as far as the olympics is 
concerned. It seems that we want government to do everything.. if anything
govt must try to lure private companies into the sporting business like`
what they have done here. We have many problems that need much more attention
the last thing we need is for our govts to build stadiums just for a few people
as far as the masses are concerned.. it doesnt matter to them one way or the 
other. I am sure.. the last thing on their mind is the olympics..
Which also brings me to the point that, perhaps, the concept of olympics has
lost all its true meaning.. now we are more concerned about who won by 
0.00000001s rather that who was running. If you ask me, I think 'third world'
countries should stop sending people, if people want to compete then let them
compete in their own nations with fellow citizens. This concept of olympics
which has become into some kind of a 'let us see who is better' has no value..
it was suppose to be 'all nations under one flag' n
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: a0h9342@zeus.tamu.edu (HAQUE, ANISUL)
Subject: Re: Our attitude towards homosexuality
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:50:00 GMT

Just a few questions! 

i) Why do some people consider homosexuality as a psychological aberration?
   (I can understand the religious point of view) On the other hand, why do 
   some people consider it as OK? Is there any medical evidence on either 
   side?

ii) What are the factors that influence a person to become homosexual? Is 
    there any genetic or biological reasons?

iii) Is homosexuality observed among other species, or is it unique to human 
     race?

Regards,

Anisul Haque
Texas A & University 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: kazi@bugs.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi)
Subject: Re: Our attitude towards homosexuality
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:53:18 GMT

I hope this thread does not degenerate into another interminable
religious flame-fest that topics like these are wont to. From the
Islamic point of view, there are definite strictures against
homosexuality. For believer's, I suppose, there cannot be any other
perception than that of the immorality of homosexuality. 

Leaving religion aside,[I have done that in my life], my attitude 
is based on the freedom of personal choice. Marriage, and concomitant
sexual orientation [not attitudes], should be the sole preserve of 
consenting ADULTS without prevailing social and religious mores weighing 
down upon them. I haven't had the opportunity of meeting any gay or 
lesbian persons, but I hope I will interact with them as I would with 
any other so-called-normal-person-by-the-majority. I would prefer to 
judge a person, [If I ever have the right to do so], solely on his merits
as a good human being [my definition: Someone who, at the least, harms 
no other, and at the best, is doing something beneficial for others.] 

I recently had a discussion on this with a friend, who holds markedly
stronger views on homosexuality than I do. Her attitude was based on
the premise that homosexuality is a psychological aberration. She drew
an analogy between homosexuality and paedophilia. According to her, 
both are aberrant mental states, and just as paedophilia is socially
and legally proscribed, so should homosexuality be. Such people should
seek psychological help. Furthermore, she said, homosexuality goes
against the evolutionary goal of continuing the species. [PS. If the
above paragraph appears a bit stilted, blame it on me working on my
thesis. ie. Cohen and Levesque contend that intention .. blah..blah]

What do netters think? 

-- Zunaid Kazi
   kazi@cis.udel.edu
From: banla@brahms.udel.edu (Rosana Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: R: Our attitude towards homosexuality
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:54:37 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Shakil,
     Why are you seeing both, adultry and homosexuality, in the same light ? You can compare homosexuality only with heterosexuality but not with adultry.
Homosexuality is a act between two people-- male + male/ female + female.
heterosexuality is a act between two peolpe-- male + female. So, where dose
the adultry fit into any one of them  ?
 
Take care
Rosana
From: misra@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Boo!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Our attitude towards homosexuality
Date: 31 Jul 1992 15:54:09 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu

ali@tcs.com (Ali Ishtiaq) writes:

>In general I have found women (Bangladeshi and otherwise) to be far more
>accepting of homosexuality than men. I believe thats probably because gay
>oppression and women's oppresion share some similar characteristics - both
>are a result of society's expectation of rigid gender roles. 

	Society has expectation from men as well.. why is that any different 
from a socierty expecting something from women or gays for that matter.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: mzi@troy.uucp (21311-iqbal)
Subject: Humayun Ahmed
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:08:56 GMT
Keywords: Literature


Please do not summarily dismiss a writer because he is writing
"trash" now! If he has produced one good book in his life time give
him the credit.  It is not easy. I have not seen any writer who 
did not produce some amount of trash in his life time. There are
characters known as "publishers" and "producers" and "editors"
and writers have to make them happy and keep them happy.
I prefer saying "good book" and "bad book" instead of saying "good
writer" and "bad writer".

I like Humayun Ahmed's short stories best.
I also respect him for introducing the word "Razakar" in
Bangladesh TV (It is forbidden).  He deserves full credit for
his contribution in TV drama (Syed Shamsul Haque does not
believe it is part of literature). Right now he is
trying to make a movie on our liberation war. 

In Bangladesh roughly 30-35% of all the books sold are written
by Humayun Ahmed (60% from West Bengal rest are everybody
else). Like it or not you have to take this guy seriously.

I think I would have liked him even if he was not my elder brother!

Zafar Iqbal.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Nirod C. Choudhuri
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:26:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul22.173143.13360@exu.ericsson.se>, exuhaak@exu.ericsson.se 
writes...
>..... (stuff deleted) ...
>Please, don't get me wrong, I'm not talking intolerence. I think, we should 
>know and recognize our differences and learn to live in harmony with those 
>differences. I do respect Durga-puja and the spirit of it. However, as a Muslim
>that is still a form of ...... 
> 
>With all the respect to other religions. Regards.
> 
>ha

 You are right, and, as you say one must have tolerance towards other religions
 and practices. However, regarding Anisul's comment on Nirod Chaudhuri, I have
 some objections. Though Chaudhuri quotes instances that are correct, I must
 admit that they are tailor-made to suit his ulterior motives regarding the
 contemporary Bengali culture in both Bengals. I have seen that Nirodbabu is too
 angry about what goes in Bengal ! He (IMHO) spreads sort'a intolerance towards
 Bengali culture ! This is what I object. Syed Mujtaba Siraj - a noted Bengali
 novelist from West Bengal, once contended in the "book review" section of the
 Desh patrika, that, Nirodbabu will do better if thinks about how to spend the
 rest of his life in solitude..... 

 I would agree with Mujtaba Sahib !

 - khoda hafez,

   deb chatterjee
 (a good samaritan)

 P.S: regarding Dipen's comments, which are in accordance with Anisul's, the 
      same (above) reasoning applies.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: My attitude towards homosexuality........
From: shanto@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:48:04 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University


Hello again.......  

As far as I know; Hijras are a responsibility of the Municipality......
In our country that is.......-- And am not sure--
They are taken to a separate place to be brought up as soon as they are found...

As for homosexuality; i have heard that getting a prick up someones ass is a
sin next to not believing on God......

I personally can picture the scene; but wouldn't want to be AT the place....

But then again; I think the freedom of choice should be there......
Anyone has the right to chose anyone as his/her partner......
For bed or for life.......

Shukrobar........
		-------- PeAcE.........
				     --------- Sharful.........
From: kabir@kabir.Eng.Sun.COM (Ihtisham Kabir)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: The Joy
Date: 28 Jul 1992 16:47:10 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kabir@kabir.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: kabir

"The joy of winning must be great, but the joy of participating
is even greater" - Saidur Rahman Dawn of Bangladesh, upon being
asked by journalists what it felt like to be last in the 100
meter heats in the LA Olympics.

This appeared in the Palo Alto Times Tribune in 1984. Was this
guy the fastest runner in Bangladesh? Any more info on him? He
should have been a diplomat!


- Ihtisham Kabir
From: mermmzh@engvms.unl.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: BD and World Cup Cricket
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:30:03 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln





ICC has recently decided to give Zimbabwe the full membership. It has also 
decided to increase the number of teams from 9 to 12 from the next World
Cup. There are 9 test teams ( including Zimbabwe ), so 3 associate
members will get chance to participate in the next World Cup cricket.
I think Bangladesh, Kenya, Bermuda, Papua New Gunia,Denmark and Canada
will fight for these three positions. In the last ICC tournament 
Bangladesh lost to Zimbabwe in the semi-final. She was in the semi-
final of the previous tournament also. So I think Bangladesh should
qualify for the next World Cup fairly easily.

---Zakir
From: akazi@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: RE:BANGLADESH & THE OLYMPICS
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:11:58 GMT
Organization: Wright State University


   
  Yes, I watched them on tv, marching at the opening ceremony. 
  The flag bearer was Masudur Rahman and he is a short distance swimmer
  according to the commentator. I didn't take a count but seemed like
  around 5 members in the contingent.

  Well,  ALL THE BEST FOR THE BANGLADESH CONTINGENT AT THE OLYMPICS.
From: asadul@fmsun1.ec.t.kanazawa-u.ac.jp (Asadul Huq)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: test
Date: 31 Jul 92 10:15:28 GMT
Organization: Kanazawa University Faculty of Technology, Kanazawa Japan
Originator: asadul@fmsun1

This is test. Pl. ignore it.
asad.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: mohammed@syscon.rn.com (Mohammed Samad)
Subject: 79 Josephites
Organization: Syscon Corporate Headquarters - South Bend, IN USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:53:40 GMT

Are there any 1979 batch Josephites around?
     ... Atiq
From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Electronic Matchmaker
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 21:13:25 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Women, I am about to launch a free electronic matching service on 
Usenet.  Unfortunately, more guys than gals have expressed an 
interest so far.  If you would like to see the fourth draft of my 
questionnaire so we can alter it to also fit women's needs as well as 
men's, either send me mail or look at the copy I posted in 
alt.personals.
 
This service is serious and I already have 119 men and 86 women signed
up so far.  The site of the service has already been selected and
programmers are being lined up for the construction of the listserver.
 
I should point out that this questionnaire really, really, really, 
needs some more input on CULTURES.  I need some questions to make sure
that matches are compatible culturally.
 
                                                            Eric Klien