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From: wombat@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Gene P. Ledbetter)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Ho hum. (was Race traitors)
Date: 12 Oct 1992 14:08:51 -0500
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According to Sean Patrick Friel:

> Whomever expresses sympathy for that drunken speed racer
> should be taken to the crematoriums.

Suddenly I feel sympathy for dear old Rodney.

> Too bad Bergen-Belsen doesnt exist anymore.  Any member of
> the Aryan race who displays such emotions needs to be
> liquidated before the master race is infiltrated by white-
> trash.

Won't fly.  "Liquidated" was a Soviet term, not a Nazi term.
"Exterminated" would be more in keeping, don't you think?
What in the name of heaven is the Aryan race?  Come to think 
of it, what in the name of heaven is race?

> If the SS were still in power, there would not have been
> any need for a ridiculous trial.  The negroid would have
> been shot.

I don't believe that Rodney would have fallen under the juris-
diction of the SS, even in the good old days.  Who can say what 
the SS might do if they were around?  Mayhap they would come 
after Sean for defiling English, that most sacred of aryan 
languages, by using the word "whomever" as the subject of a 
sentence.

Gene Ledbetter
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From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: cynicism
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:55:02 GMT

In article <98391@bu.edu>, treefrog@bass.bu.edu (susan landsman) writes:
|> The theory: It appears that past generations of Americans went through
|> a growth period that included a stage of idealism in which they could go
|> about trying to achieve political and personal goals without being 
|> hampered by a sense of futility.  Today's "youthful" generation -- college
|> age or somewhat older (slackers?) -- seem to share an early cynicism that
|> squelches any idealism they might have at an age where they might also
|> be politically/culturally active.

I'm a great believer in generational cycles, for rather complex reasons,
and I'm also not put off by charges of sweeping generalizations, so here
goes.

It's almost de rigueur to complain about the political and sociological
apathy and cynicism observed and measured among today's twenty-somethings
and early thirty-somethings.  Those who came to form political views in the
70's, anyway.  But I think I see signs of a more developed political
awareness, in many senses, among the next half-generation.  There are more
high school and college kids who care about the world; more college
Republicans and Democrats; more who have an outward-looking viewpoint, and
are more concerned with saving the planet than amassing their first
million.  Consider it a backlash if you want.

Another thing (or more likely part of the same thing).  Go walk round a
public school sometime.  The walls of my kids' schools and others I have
visited are covered with evidence of activism being taught: pro-
environment, anti-drug, Student Council, community service, and so on.  I
think I detect a reason.  Many of those who truly took on the idealism of
the '60s, and kept the faith, became teachers; many of them are now heads
of department, and in a position to influence what is taught and how.

Conservatives, take note.  We liberals started to infiltrate the classrooms
25 years ago, and the seeds we planted are beginning to bear fruit...

(but, then, my son is a freshman at Mike Dukakis's alma mater, so perhaps
we are just out of sight off the scale).
-- 
David Brooks					dbrooks@osf.org
Open Software Foundation			uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
100 more days of Bush Presidency!
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From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: an amusing anecdote...
Followup-To:  soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.misc 
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:12:08 GMT

mxsst1+@pitt.edu (Michael   Stroucken) writes:
] In article <Bw6F3G.n2G@nic.umass.edu> csulaima@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CYNTHIA R SULAIMAN) writes:

[ the general question about service, and 'patriotism' and the like ]

Once Upon a Time, back in 1940, the US Army Reserve
Recruiters came unto Penn States Campus, and Said
unto the Young Elliglible Men:

'have we a Deal for thee! Signeth Thee Up with
the inactive reserve, as lo, we do not know but
what we may become involved with the war in Europe.
Thus then, as thee be signed upeth with the 
inactive reserve, thee shall NOT be drafted, and
thee wilst finish thine College Education, and
yea verily yee will be Ossifers and Gentleman with
a College Edumacation.'

And It came to pass that There was a War in Europe, and
there was a Draft, and the Young Men of Penn State were
not called upon, for low some six months... and then
their Inactive Reserve Unit was Mobilized.... and the
Induction Personnel said unto them:

'forestry major, you'll love the infantry....'

'Podiatrist, you'll love the infantry....' 

'....., you'll love the infantry....' 

And Thus it was that Philip R. Hampe did
depart unto Europe, to continue his education
of Classical Roman Culture, with the Grand
Waltz up the Boot Of Italy.....

It is most amusing how History now recalls that they 
were all Brave Valiant Dedicated Defenders of Democracy.....


ciao
drieux

ps: and we will avoideth the fact that at the moderate
suggestion of His Platoon Sgt - "where i'm from they
shoot MAD DOGS! and anyone not doing what they can to
get of this theatre is a MAD DOG!' - that then Sgt P.R.Hampe
decided that Attendance at West Point was Most Providential,
Patriotic and Prudent....

Nor How the class of '48 Nearly Destroyed 'The Point' as
this might cause unto the Liberals in our Midst, some
confusion about the Nature of Traditional Family Values....


pps: Nor, for that matter, shall we regale thee with
the other tales of my father, and the time that he an'
Hannibal, for Lo it is true that father was with the
Military for Many Long Years, didst bring the Elephants
unto Rome.....


-- 
Modern Day Problems:

ME? engage in Hyperbole?
I have rarely been more than a first Order Function!!!!
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From: csulaima@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CYNTHIA R SULAIMAN)
Subject: Re: That Legal right over Gambit...
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:52:27 GMT

in article <1992Oct11.191826.7541@ampex.com> russest@ampex.com (Steve Russell) writes:
>> Any man that joins the military knows he may be called to battle and may die.
>> for that reason he has served his country regardless of where he was stationed
>>
>> Quayle served his country,  Clinton abandoned it.
>>  

I may be wading in too deep, but I'll do it any way.

My ex-husband is a Nam vet, and through working with and in many
veterans organizations I heard a great deal.         

Quayle, while one may argue, served his country, he did so in a way that
was only open to him because of his wealth and status.  Men from
Clinton's side of the tracks couldn't get into the NAT. GUARD  during
that period of time.    

Only the poor and the middle class went to really "fight" that war --
not the rich and well connected (which was the only way you could get
into Nat. Guard etc.  during the war). 4-F's would have most probably
been called up, before they were. 

What Quayle did, in my mind, was EXACTLY the same as what Clinton did.
Try with all his power to keep his butt out a war that's greatest
contribution to our society was to keep body bag makers in a booming 
industry.

Clinton's name, further, went back into the lottery -- Quayle's never
did (because of being in the reserves) and he was well insultated from
going, and he knew it.  And so did every field GI.

During the last 12 years (Reagan/Bush/Quayle) this country has cut
support, programs, and benefits for our veterans.  A large percentage
of the homeless population are veterans.

The GI bill was cut right out from under our veterans feet and replaced
with something not nearly so supportive.  VA hospitals have a long
legacy of under funding, and sub standard care, as do VA nursing homes.
The list goes on and on. . .

All of this patriotic bull is just lip service -- for actions of the
last 12 years speak louder than words....BTW did any of Bush's sons or
grandsons ever serve in the military?    

In this instance Perot was more than correct that war wasn't like WWII
when FDR's son fought...none of the "beautiful" went.

.
From: chris@dhvx20.csudh.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Re: 1992 RESULTS
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:17:30 GMT
Organization: CSU, DOMINGUEZ HILLS

It may sound better to you, but do you really think it'll happen?
I'm just being realistic.
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Indian Territory (was States)
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:22:07 GMT
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1at0msINNqll@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes) writes:
> 
> I was reading a Census Bureau publication of about 1902 and it gave
> statistics for all the states and also for "Indian Territory".  Where
> was Indian Territory in 1902?  (Or maybe earlier; the data were gathered
> in connection with the 1900 census, I believe)

	Oklahoma used to be the Indian Territory.

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From: jianshe@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Share a room at Denver Cell Meeting!!!!!
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:30:09 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada



I am going to attend American 32nd Annual Cell Biology Meeting at Denver,
Colorado on 15 - 19 November this year. I reserved a room with two beds at 
Comfort Inn Dowmtown at Denver. I would like to share with someone. If you 
are interested in it, please call me at (902) 494-6525, or send me an e-mail:
Jianshe @ ca. dal.ca. Thaks a lot for your attention. J. Zhang at 
Halifax
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From: holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise)
Subject: Re: Perot and 3rd Party politics
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:36:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.112623.4629@desire.wright.edu> f0358@desire.wright.edu writes:


>PROBLEM:
>H. Ross is back in the race.
>I strongly urge all of you who are still undecided and who are to vote for
>Perot to rethink. I have nothing against Perot and would have liked to have
>experienced him in office, but now it is too late. In my thinking this is what
>happens: Those backers of Clinton who were originally in the Perot camp will
>now vote Perot thus depriving Clinton of the votes he needs. This will in
>effect provide George Bush an easy win. I may be wrong, and please check me
>where I am wrong. There is one thing I know is true: We cannot afford four more
>years with Macchiavelli's Prince in office.

Don't you think that Perot's entry might throw the election into the House 
of Reps?  If that happened, they would surely vote for Clinton.
However, I agree with you.  Perot's entry is hurting Clinton, not Bush.  
Seems to me that Republicans generally vote Republican, but Democrats will 
vote for whoever.  If this is the case, then mainly Democrats will vote for 
Perot and Bush will win.
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From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: 86
Date: 9 Oct 1992 04:26:01 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Oct8.233456.9370@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, thchemb4@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
|> I'm not quite sure if this is the right place to ask, but,....
|> 
|> what does the (seemingly purely American) verb to '86' mean?

It means "to throw someone out", usually of a barroom.
I'm not sure where it originated--anyone know more?

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:31:43 EDT
From: bob burge <BURGER@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Visiting D.C.

A friend and I will be travelling to DC in early November to do some
research at the Smithsonian. Anyone have any words/advice on things
that are a must-to-do/must-not-to-do in and around DC?

(She's finding the place to stay, but I would like to be able to go
"Yuck, there's no way I'm staying THERE!" -- if you know what I mean!)

Bob Burge                                  Internet: burger@qucdn.queensu.ca
Opinion Research Unit - Queen's University - Kingston - ON - Canada - K7L3N6
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From: c164-ad@po.berkeley.edu (Martin Guerrero)
Subject: Re: Some information (Re: Abortion and Ethnic Purging) 
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:08:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.230745.6405@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
>csulaima@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CYNTHIA R SULAIMAN) writes ...
>>The Serbs are involoved in Ethnic Cleansing, not defending themselves.
>>Many Bosnians are Muslims, and Muslims around the world beleive now
>>that there is an active (Western) policy supporting/calling for 
>>their genocide.  The Gulf War helped gain this view more acceptance.
>
>I realize what the Serbs are doing.  But they're justifying by
>claiming that they are being set upon by a hostile world and they need
>to protect themselves.  In order to accomplish this, they are getting
>rid of all perceived enemies.
>
>From their standpoint it is a necessary action, taken in self-defense.
>From the view of the rest of world they are genocidal bigots, bent on
>inflicting 60 years of prejudices on their neighbors.
>
>What's this got to do with abortion?  Many pro-lifers believe with
>equal fervor that they are in the right and are justified in doing
>what is necessary to impose their beliefs.  Martin Guerrero in
>particular has stated that he knows without doubt that he is correct.
			    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
			    call it confidence.

BTW, there may have been quotes which were misunderstood.  One, for example
was a response to people thinking they know my "inner motives."  I respond
by saying I know what I think and what is in my head and what is in my
heart cannot be wrong.  In other words, I know how I feel and what I'm
thinking no matter what other people say.

Also, just a reminder: Who is more likely to use the argument of personhood
to limit the club to exclusive persons to support their view on abortion?
Who, in the historical examples, was more likely to dehumanize human
individuals because they thought they had no rights as humans and therefore
no right to life?  Who is more likely to use the self-defense argument
in justifying killing others?  And who, in the historical examples, is 
more likely to justify their brutal actions in the name of self-defense?

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From: buccb@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler)
Subject: Re: 86
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:47:58 GMT

In a previous episode on soc.culture.usa,
rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) drops complete science:

>In article <1992Oct8.233456.9370@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, thchemb4@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>|> I'm not quite sure if this is the right place to ask, but,....
>|> 
>|> what does the (seemingly purely American) verb to '86' mean?
>
>It means "to throw someone out", usually of a barroom.
>I'm not sure where it originated--anyone know more?

	The OED suggests that it may have come to use because it
rhymes with 'nix.'

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From: foy@aero.org (Richard Foy)
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Subject: Re: Presidential Leadership
Date: 16 Oct 1992 21:58:17 GMT
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In article <1992Oct16.034050.24739@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) writes:

>Of course that haven't done anything about it, you loon! It's very
>low! Did you hear that? The misery index is low! That's why the
>Republicans keep bringing up and the Democrats don't!
>
>Sheesh. Do you know what the misery index is?
>
>						- greg




Sure. It is an index designed to make Reagan and Bush look good!

Richard Foy  Redondo Beach, CA         Standard Disclaimer

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From: rks@cscns.com (Island's Child)
Subject: Re: cynicism
Organization: Community_News_Service
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:28:39 GMT
From: r2d@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (richard.del monaco)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Of states
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:33:43 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Some states are definately known as states (New Jersey, Kentucky, Georgia).
Other states are known as commonwealths (Massachusetts, Pennsylvania).
Does anyone know the reason for this?  What exactly is the distinction of
being a commonwealth?  If there is a FAQ for this group maybe this would be
a good question.  Please post the answer.

Also, for you trivia nuts:  which states were once independent nations?
Good luck.

Richard Del Monaco		rdelmonaco@attmail.att.com
Somerset, New Jersey		    r2d@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Woops: Re: States of U.S.A.
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:39:31 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <aHecsB4w164w@kryton.UUCP> ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:
>  I don't think DC will become a state.  The
>idea that DC is a District, not a state is so that as the capitol, it
>remains neutral.  So I don't see it becoming a state, nor do I think it
>should.

Philosophically, what you say makes sense, but what about the reality
of the situation?  DC has about 600,000 people who cannot participate
in the legislative process.  This strikes me as rather unfair --
remember the line about "taxation without representation"?

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov
From: gaf5@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gail A. Fullman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: GEORGE HERBERT WALKER JOSEPH McCARTHY BUSH
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:02:48 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <58.X666X@ramona.com>, doug@ramona.com (Double Agent) writes:
>George Bush is a stupid asshole. I don't say that casually. Not all assholes
>are stupid. He hammers Clinton all week for the London/Moscow stuff.
>Clinton has that whole week to come up with a boffo counterattack. So what
>does Bush do? He sticks his chin out for the sucker-punch in the first five
>minutes of the debate. This man is stupid.
>
>And it's not like it was a great attack on Clinton, to begin with. It seemed
>to be backfiring. Now what Bush should have done is to keep his mouth shut
>during the week and pulled a sneak attack on Clinton during the debate. Of
>course, that might have backfired, too, but at least Clinton wouldn't have
>had so long to come up with a response. Stupid.
>
>George, let's not forget what happened to Nixon after he started listening
>to the nuts in his party.
>
How about the new one on using the State department to try turn up dirt on
Clinton, using the excuse that a reporter requested the information under the
Freedom of Information Act?  But, 1)who is the reporter?  If the information
is public so should be the reporter's name and 2)it is now reported that the
information requested is subject to privacy and not covered under the Freedom
if Information Act.  Is there a Watergate looming in the Bush future?
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From: skinny@board8.uucp (skinny)
Subject: Re: Pres Bush is Coming to Penn State
Keywords: cum
Organization: board8
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 01:33:45 GMT

robart@agora.rain.com (Robert Barton) writes:

>In article <92273.161738FKR@psuvm.psu.edu> <FKR@psuvm.psu.edu>Fred Rozenblad writes:
>>
>>I have cums once a month. The chem dept here offers 4 cums every month and
>>the grad cmte suggests their grad students try to take one a month. I have
>>2 years to pass 6 exams. That works out to be 6 cums passed in 2 years.
>>I think I can do that :-)


>  Probably, after all many men can cum more than once per day, so
>6 times in 2 years should be no problem at all.

 It is a problem for some. The president (although he is a Weenie)
never cums. Babs wants a stole and it's no hankeepankee until old
prudentpuss gives with the fur. Not even aural sex. Wooden be prudent.

 thank you.
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From: csulaima@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CYNTHIA R SULAIMAN)
Subject: Re: Some information (Re: Abortion and Ethnic Purging) 
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:30:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.230745.6405@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
>csulaima@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CYNTHIA R SULAIMAN) writes ...

>I realize what the Serbs are doing.  But they're justifying by
>claiming that they are being set upon by a hostile world and they need
>to protect themselves.  In order to accomplish this, they are getting
>rid of all perceived enemies.
>
>From their standpoint it is a necessary action, taken in self-defense.
>From the view of the rest of world they are genocidal bigots, bent on
>inflicting 60 years of prejudices on their neighbors.

In the state from which I just moved we have the "Make My Day" law.  If
an burglar/intruder enters my house I can use lethal force, for
my own self-denfense.  Reasonable, right?

I cannot, however, walk into my neighbors front lawn, enter their home
and blow them away, claiming self-denfense.


>What's this got to do with abortion?  Many pro-lifers believe with

It's called "READ THE HEADER".  It was an aside, I knew it...just giving
you all something else to tuck away for future referrence...


CRS


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