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From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
Subject: Re: problems with Times' Arrow prt. 2
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:47:05 GMT

In article <whelan.717721783@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu> whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan) writes:
>ehamrick@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Eric N Hamrick) writes:
>
>>Jason R. Pascucci
>>jasonp@primerd.prime.com writes:
>
>>>I wasn't paying close enough attention, so it's quite possible
>>>that Beverly and Riker were making Shakespeare-sounding dialog.
>
>	Don't think so.  I know at least that Riker's line (as Oberon)
>"Ill-met by moonlight..." is from Shakespeare's "A Midsummer Night's
>Dream".
>
>>     Heck, they have worlds greatest card-shark in the group,Data, so why
>> worry about a play? :)
>
>	Not to mention Riker, the man who taught him everything he knows...

Why didn't Data just reach into his pocket and pay her?  It was
already established that he had plenty of money.

As far as the clothes and the playbooks, I just assumed that they
had been in 1893 for some weeks.  After all look at how settled
they were in the apartment (and the landlady had reminded them
about the rent being due so they must have paid for previous weeks).

Hillel Markowitz        H_Markowitz@att.com
From: whelan@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (John T. whelan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: REALM OF FEAR -- OPINIONATED COMMENTS
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:16:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: sbphy.whelan.718150602

ruzon@aludra.usc.edu (The Ruz-master) writes:

>>Realm of Spoilers ahead


>Some other points I wish to mention:

>* Troi finally wins the Starfleet Office Bitch of the Week Award.  Who does
>  she think she is relieving Lt. Barclay of duty?

	Um, the ship's counselor, responsible for the mental
well-being of the crew?

>  She's never done that before.

	But Dr. Crusher has, based on a similar principle.  Why is it
so hard to extrapolate?
	What amazed me was that nobody thought to send Barclay to
sickbay.  I can understand Barclay not having the sense to go, since
he was not in full possesion of his mental faculties, but you'd think
that Geordi would have suggested it, given that he was willing to do a
full transporter diagnostic.  What about a Barclay diagnostic?  Then,
when Troi observed his instability and relieved him of duty, I would
have expected her to authorize some sort of exam.  At the very least,
he could have gone there for sedatives!  A very frustrating episode.
						John Whelan
--
	"Do you know what Freud said about dreams of flying?
	 It means you're really dreaming about having sex."
	"Indeed?  Tell me then, what does it mean when
	 you dream about having sex?"  -- Sandman #15
From: hphri@usho26.hou281.chevron.com (P.H.Rice)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Time's Arrow II **SPOILERS**
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:20:58 GMT
Organization: Chevron


Spoilers about Time's Arrow II


Another overused plot device:

    Picard steps into the Time Portal (going back to the 24th century) and
the Photon Torps are about to hit the planet.  On the Big E, they scan a
lifeform on the planet below and Riker tells the operator in the Transporter
Room to beam it up  --  just in the nick of time.  Then Riker asks if Picard
safely transported aboard.  Come on, this happens a lot and it is getting 
really boring.  Of course he made it OK.  Nothing can happen the bridge
crew (except for Tasha).   I wish they wouldn't overuse the 'Transport-just-
in-the-nick-of-time" routine.


Questions about Time Travel:

    What would happen if Picard took Data's head back with him?  What other
changes could they have made from the past to alter the future?


If Picard took Data's head back, then they would have never found it on Earth.
Therefore, the Big E wouldn't have gone to the other planet and Data would
still be in one piece.  But the aliens would still be alive and taking
our energy.


Phil
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From: andy@nff.ncl.Omron.Co.Jp (Andy Krantz)
Subject: Re: Computer on Enterprise
Reply-To: andy@nff.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Computer Systems R&D Labs 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:29:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.205432.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>, ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
> In article <phurley.28@tamu.edu>, phurley@tamu.edu (Philip W. Hurley) writes:
> > In article <1992Sep23.073412.9804@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00rdharringt@bsu-ucs.uucp (
> > Rob Harrington) writes:
> > 
> >>And another thing, if all you have to do is say "Computer" what happens
> >>when the word "Computer" comes up in casual conversation?
> 
> Have you ever been watching the show and think that a character was _not_ 
> addressing the computer when he was? 
> 
> P.S. [...] But I've never seen anyone say "Computer, display shuttle bay 2 
> on main viewer." or anything of the sort.

I just watched "Home Soil" (Discovery of inorganic life inhabiting a planet
that was being terra formed) (Yes, that is how far back they are in
broadcasting TNG in this country.)

First remark: True I can't remember when the audience didn't know that the
computer was being addressed. But the computer can be fooled. :-) In the
scene where Geordi, Data and Worf are analysing the crystals, Worf makes a
comment about the composition and the computer responds with something. Worf
retorts that he wasn't talking to the computer. 

Second remark: In the same episode they had the Medical Lab on the main
viewer and in the Observation Lounge as they were observing the crystals
multiplying and also when they were communicating. Actually I don't remember
a time when the crew was talking to the crystals (via the translator) while
they were in sight of each other.

-- 
 Andy Krantz   andy@nff.ncl.omron.co.jp   \ Everyone stares at me 'cause I is
 Phone: +81-75-951-5111 x3691 FAX: 956-7403\ gaijin. I understand nobody and 
 OMRON Corp., Computer Systems R&D Labs    / nobody understand me. How could
 Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo Kyoto, 617 Japan/   I possibly speak for company?
From: kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Will we have to pay to see Star Trek?
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:18:42 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <4164@vidiot.UUCP>, brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
> There are technologies that exist currently, and they are called video tape
> and laserdisc.  I'm sure that you have heard of them.  With this neat batch
> of technological goodies, you can watch any of these program whenever you
> want.  Not only that, you can watch them without commercials and annoying
> station logos.
> 
There's a similar problem with those that you have with cable
(although not at the same level) - not everyone has or can afford a
vcr, let alone the immense tape collections neccessary to get the
episodes after they vanish from our sight.

> I suggest that you look into the above mentioned technology and lay off
> bitching about what the Sci-Fi Channel manages to purchase.
> 
I suggest that you stop flaming other people for worrying not
neccessarily that ST won't be on anymore, but this whole
exclusive-righs thing that means some series might *never* be seen
again if the SF Channel decided they're not bringing in enough
revenue, but don't want to sell them off... (sure, it doesn't sound
logical, but tell me that a rating system where none of several
hundred thousand people can watch a show, but they did just because
one family did...)

-- 
Mark Kinney [KINNEMA@WKUVX1.(BITNET)(WKU.EDU)] | Give me Slack OR KILL ME!
PhoneNet: (502) 745-4246   (Bowling Green, KY) | K A /\ /\ I E T I
Quote of the week: "You will kindly refrain from addressing me as 'Doc,'
	Perpigillium!" -- The Doctor
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From: mwalls@nmsu.edu (Commander Keen)
Subject: Possible mistake in Realm of Fear  (maybe some spoilers)
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:56:21 GMT

(possible spoilers)


























































(coming up)

























(too late)

I'm gonna watch it again tonight, but I think I noticed a production
flaw in this episode.

Just after they piece that container thing back together, they show
another shot where you can see it in the background.  The only thing
is, that it is not together.  ie.  They show it together, then you see
it in the background in pieces.  Did I see that right?

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From: spainhou@cs.scarolina.edu (Keith Spainhour)
Subject: Re: Mistake in Borg episode
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date:  1 Oct 92 23:40:27 GMT

roy@ug.cs.dal.ca (David Roy) writes:


>I have noticed a small error in the episode where the Borg capture and
>assimilate Capt. Picard.  The first words Picard (as Locutus) says is
>	"I am Locutus of Borg...."

>This is incorrect with the Borg as we are led to understand them in the
>later episode called (I believe) 'I Borg', where the Borg cannot use, or
>rather cannot understand the usage of the word I... All of the Borg are
>one, they cannot understand themselves as seperate due to the fact of the
>combined consciousness they all have.

>I hope I am clear in what I am attempting to say... Comprende?

	If I'm not mistaken, Locutus annonces himself in BOBW to the 
federation as something like

	I am Locutus of Borg . . .

	I believe he used I in this instance as to better communicate with
the federation people as he was their spokes person.

Just a thought  :-)

Maximus
		(Apollo was astonished, Dionysis thought me mad)
From: cap36406@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Carlos A. Pero)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "Realm of Fear"
Keywords: TNG, Barclay, transporters
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:28:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bvo0uv.671
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I have a cunning plan...) writes:

>In article <1992Oct5.145916.17919@cci632.cci.com>, tvf@cci632.cci.com (Tom Frauenhofer) writes...
>>In article <1aldh0INN8lp@gap.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>>>SPOILER
















>is this enough room?

[stuff deleted]>> 
>> 
>>The biggest problem I had was that four people went into the
>>transporter (Riker, Worf, Geordi, and Barclay) and only Barclay was
>>(1) infected and (2) the only one to notice the "worms".  And if he
>>claims to have seen something during the beaming why couldn't they
>>either try beaming someone else to check or build a probe to monitor
>>what happens during transport?  They still could have had a story,
>>maybe a better one, that's arguable.

>I believe that the only reason Barclay was affected is that he was the
>only person who went through the transporter when there was that fluctuation
>in the transporter beam. If you remember, just before one of the other 
>members of the away team beams over, O'Brian tells him to hold a moment
>because of a fluctuation. Then he beams him over. The rest of the away
>team have no problem. 

This is true. There was no fluctuation on Barclay's way over to the
other ship, but there was a fluctuation on the way back to the Big E.
Here is where he saw the worms and one of them touched him.

Later, Barclay asks O'Brien to check the transporter log for fluctuations.
There was one, and O'Brien is able to re-create it. Here, Barclay sees the
worms again and warns the senior staff.

So you see, no one else saw the worms because there was no fluctuation, nor
would there be if they put a monitor or someone else through the transporter.


-- 
______________________________________________________
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From: belfiore@sol.AER.COM (James S. Belfiore, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: James Doohan in Boston (10/2/92) <*Minor Spoilers*>
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:47:29 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AER Inc., Cambridge, MA

James Doohan is in town for a Creation COnvention and the opening of
the Federation Science exhibit at the Museum of Science.  He was on
a local "classic rock" radio station (WZLX 100.7 FM) this morning to
answer some calls.  Some of the conversation was very amusing.  I'll
admit that what follows is not transcript, but its very close to the
actual exchanges:

Caller 1: "Did you ever want to be captain?"

Doohan: "Heck no!  George and Leonard and Bill, they all wanted to be captain,
         but me?  Gimme a fine engineering job and I'll be happy."

Caller 1: "You were always great at saving the day with the most amazing
           solutions to impossible problems."

Doohan: "Aye (Note: Doohan was answering with a Scots accent), and I do it
         again in the next generation."

Caller 1: "You mean you're going to be on ST:TNG?!?"

Doohan: "Yep!  Its a beautiful story, and I haven't aged a day!  And I get
         to do more miracle work!  That's why I love being an engineer
         <laughs>."

DJ: "Thanks for the call...Good morning!  You have a question for Scotty?"

Caller 2: "Will there be another Star Trek movie?"

Doohan: "Paramount always stays very quiet about this.  There has to be 
         another one.  Star Trek 6 has made so much money in Europe that
         they'd be passing up a grand oppurtunity for another succesful
         film.  We need to transition to the next generation.  That's
         what Star Trek 6 was supposed to do, but it was changed.  Paramount
         always goes quiet before a big announcement on Star Trek, and those
         announcements have always come in September or October.  September
         is gone, so we'll see.  If another movie is announced, I'll be
         happy to do it."

DJ: "We have time for one more call...Good morning, you're on the air.."

Caller 3: "I've really enjoyed your character, Scotty (Note: the caller
           kinda forgot he was talking to James Doohan).  The development
           of your family through the novels and comic books has been 
           wonderful and really adds depth to the movies."

Doohan: "Well, I see I have a lot of reading to do!  <Big Laughs from
         Doohan and the radio staff>  My family?!?  Oh boy!  Pocket Books
         has given me and extended contract for the books on tape, but a
         family?"

(end of paraphrased excerpt)

I'll try to get more transcriptual news when I see James Doohan on Saturday
at the Museum (I have a VIP reception ticket after the first "reception"
so I'll keep my ears open).

Jim Belfiore
From: cward@Think.COM (Christopher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Data's Head deterioration not affecting anything Explained!
Date: 29 Sep 1992 18:38:11 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: godot.think.com

In article <1992Sep28.123642.149830@watson.ibm.com>, rrogers@watson.ibm.com (Ryan Rogers) writes:
|>    Ok...here's the *REAL* question.  Why didn't Data see the iron filing
|> when he was examining his head in the first place on TA I?  I just watched
|> it again and he does have that flap in the back of his head open...there
|> is simply NO WAY that Data (being 100% familiar with his own layout) should
|> have missed it.

Data is 100% familiar with his head on the inside.  It's the first time
he's worked on it from the outside.  Geordi's more familiar with working
on Data from the outside and he missed it, too.  He had to power up the head
to detect anything wrong at all, and then it took a while to find the
filing wedged in the circuitry.

	-Christopher
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From: cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: time-travel backwards possible? perhaps
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:36:36 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus

Well...You know you travel into the future when you are in real space and
travelling near c from the < c direction. What would happen if you were
travelling near c from the > c direction? It is impossible to travel at c in
the regular universal laws, but nothing prevents faster than c! Would this
cause you to go back in time rather than forward?
From: jfreund@relleno.engr.ucdavis.edu (Jason Freund)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: The new race for DS9 & Realm of Fear
Date: 4 Oct 92 03:43:49 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis


	Isn't there a new treat to the Federation in DS9?  Some new race that
attacked the space station before the season will begin?

	Is the race (I forgot the name) the same as mentioned as the possible
cause of the disaster that killed the crew of the other ship in Realm of
Fear?  Was this the first time that race has been mentioned in TNG?  Picard
and Starfleet seemed real cautious on R.o.F. about this race.  What else
do we know about them?

Jason
From: jackson@ess43.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: About that Season Premiere Rumor (SPOLIER)
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:21:56 GMT
Reply-To: jackson@ess43.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Jackson)
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM


Possible spoilers for TA II follow, be forewarned...





    Well, the season premiere has come and gone, and Geordi is still alive.
    BIG SURPRISE.  However, I was spending the week in California, and my
    wife got to see it Monday back home in Michigan.  She told me that the
    "net" was absolutely correct on one rumor, but she wouldn't tell me
    what it was, so I spent part of the week speculating on whether it was
    the "Geordie Dies!!" rumor.  I was also wondering how he was going to
    explain his visor to 19th-century gawkers.

    Now allow me to say one more thing - I know we beat this topic to death
    earlier, but I'll say it anyway.

    To those who flame-broiled that poor fellow who sprung this silly rumor
    in the first place:  You were right; he should have put that inside a
    *SPOILER* wrapper instead of in the subject field.  However -- you
    also managed to fill up the net with replies which all included that
    rumor in the subject.  Thus, all you did was virtually guarantee that
    everyone in the world reading this newsgroup was going to see it and
    possibly read it just to see what the hell the fuss was all about.  It
    was extremely amusing to me, but probably not the effect you had in mind.

    Suggestion:  next time, either reply with a nice private e-mail to the
    offender, or at least change the thread to say something like, "Re:
    Season Premiere Rumor (possible spoiler)" or the like.

----------------------------------------------------------------------------

                        "Data, is this yours?"
    - JWJ                   - Picard to Data, pointing to Data's 500 year old
                              head like it's a toy he left on the floor.
From: rossi@gvlf9-q.gvl.unisys.com (Pete Rossi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Time's Arrow Part II *SPOILERS*
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:53:21 GMT
Organization: Paramax Systems Corp (A Unisys Company), Great Valley Labs, PA

In article <69200@hydra.gatech.EDU> cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) writes:
>In article <Bv61Er.64z@spock.dis.cccd.edu> markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Julie Bixby) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep21.221539.5342@tin.monsanto.com> lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder) writes:
>>>*SPOILERS* for Time's Arrow Part II

>
>>Yes, and how the Away Team got their 19th Century clothing so fast (did
>>they jump into a store, by chance?
>
>That WAS fast wasn't it?  ...

FAST??   They had all summer to change :-)

----

rossi@gvl.unisys.com
From: cs_b173@kingston.ac.uk (Hotchkiss F G)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Mistake in Borg episode
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:03:13 GMT
Organization: Kingston University

Organization: Kingston University

In article <BuzMzB.1IC@cs.dal.ca> roy@ug.cs.dal.ca (David Roy) writes:
>
>I have noticed a small error in the episode where the Borg capture and
>assimilate Capt. Picard.  The first words Picard (as Locutus) says is
>	"I am Locutus of Borg...."
>
>This is incorrect with the Borg as we are led to understand them in the
>later episode called (I believe) 'I Borg', where the Borg cannot use, or
>rather cannot understand the usage of the word I... All of the Borg are
>one, they cannot understand themselves as seperate due to the fact of the
>combined consciousness they all have.
>
>David Roy

The reason that the Borg captured and 'Borged' Picard was for his knowledge
of us and StarFleet. Obviously, not having been a Borg all of his life, and
by neccessity retaining a part of what makes him Picard, HE alone of all
the Borg was capable of using the word I.

Just a suggestion.

Kane
From: stevee@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Steven Eichner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Barclay- Can we get rid of him?
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:36:16 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida


Come on, Picard! Barclay's getting a little TOO strange for the Enterprise.
Would a REAL Captain keep him on the ship? I think not!
Can we PLEASE put him out of our misery? Anyone know how many
episodes he's in this season?I hope not many!

Steve
/
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Paramount Press Release - #229: Man of the People
Date: 28 Sep 92 07:14:42 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout


Man of the People

Episode #229			uplink dates: 10/03/92, 10/04/92



                           _S_P_E_L_L_I_N_G_S

	Dorian
	Lumerian ambassador
	Rekag-Bironi system


				_C_A_S_T

	Captain Jean-Luc Picard			Patrick Stewart
	Commander William Riker			Jonathan Frakes
	Lieutenant Commander Data		Brent Spiner
	Dr. Beverly Crusher			Gates McFadden
	Counselor Deanna Troi			Marina Sirtis
	Lieutenant Commander Geordi LaForge	LeVar Burton
	Lieutenant Worf				Michael Dorn

	Ambassador Ramid Ves Alkar		Chip Lucia
	Ramid Sev Maylor			Susan French
	Liva					Stephanie Erb
	Jarth					Rick Scarry
	Ensign					J.P. Hubbell
	Ensign Janeway				Lucy Boryer
	Admiral					George D. Wallace
	

	Written by:				Frank Abatemarco
	Directed by:				Winrich Kolbe



_P_R_O_G_R_A_M_ _H_I_G_H_L_I_G_H_T_S

	STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION: -- Troi is drastically transformed
	when a visiting ambassador secretly uses her to achieve his aims.


_T_V_ _G_U_I_D_E_ _A_D_S

	THE PRICE OF PEACE?

	Avisiting ambassador sacrifices Troi in an attempt to achieve
	his goals!


_T_V_ _L_O_G_ _L_I_S_T_I_N_G_S

	Visiting ambassador endangers Troi/STAR TREK: THE NEXT GENERATION
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From: cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Season 2
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:12:48 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <717296062.14456@zooid.guild.org>, jordan@zooid.guild.org
(Daniel Baker) writes:
>
>Season 1, 3,4 and 5 all had 26 episodes but season 2 only had 22 episodes.
>Does anyone know why?

I think the writers (of all shows) had a strike that year.
--
Constantinos A. Caroutas

"It's easy to make mistakes when others will be held responsible."
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