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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:32:04 PDT
From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Hasta La Vista, Baby

Well, gang, it's off to the mountains of New Mexico for the next ten days.
I'll be packing my walkman and tapes.  See you when I get back.

OMC: By all means, go out and get _Automatic For The People_, R.E.M.'s new
     album.


David
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:08:56 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Music to Boat by

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:21:17 MDT Maid in Bedlam said:
>Ken said:
>
>>I am now the proud owner of a 24' Rainbow class sloop.
>
>Oh wow!  What did you name her?
>
Wellllll, that's the subject of another contest on =LITERARY=  :-)
>
>
>If you ever need a first mate, lemme know and we'll sing in salty harmony.
>
Carol, I'm *always* looking for good crew. . . but I doubt I could keep up
with you  :-)
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:45:40 CDT
From:         Dave Hall <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: you read it, you call it
              8 Oct 1992 08:24:07 +0000 from
              <OLIVOTTO%ITNCISCA.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU>

On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:24:07 +0000 OUT,              OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FA
>        Anyway, since I'm not that into the matter, I would like to hear some-
>thing about this from our Irish fellow-netters. It seems that most of the Irish
>music actually reaching the big time has a sort of religious (or anti-reli-
>gious) contamination -- U2 being the obvious archetypal band of the religious
>side, Sinead being possibly the reference for the others (I mean -- IDEOLOGI-
>CALLY, not MUSICALLY).
>        Is there a thread here?
>
>        Just an early mor-yawn!-ning thought...
>
>        Ciao, Marco
     Well, I'm not really Irish, but my grandmother was a Kelly and my middle
name is Sean, is that close enough?
     Anyway, I try to think of all the Irish bands I listen to in order to
follow your train of thought.  Admittedly most of my favorites are not really
all that big time.
     The Pogues (okay, they're not really Irish, Shane McGowan is the only
true Irishman in the group, but they wanna be and that's good enough for me)
spend most of their time and anger singing songs about English injustice,
i.e. Oliver Cromwell, the waste of Australians in Gallipoli, or the fate
of Irish-Americans in their new land.  I can't really think of any
Anti-Catholic songs.  BTW, how can the Pogues maintain any sense of Irish-
ness if Shane is gone and is to be replaced by another Brit--Joe Strummer?
     Luka Bloom, doesn't either, as far as I know.  In fact I'm hard pressed
to think of any political song he's done.
     Admittedly, this is a very small small sample of Irish bands, but to
me they're the most prominent.  Any further input would be most welcome.

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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:36:00 CDT
From:         TBUCK@KNOX.BITNET
Subject:      Cry of Love (was: Debut Albums)

The Beer-meister said:

> If Cry Of Love is his last album, then his last album was great.
> But it is hard to tell.  But is Cry Of Love the last album he put out
> while alive?

Well, depends on how you look at it. I tend to consider Cry Of Love and
Rainbow Bridge his last official albums. Almost all of the tracks on both
these albums were at least 90% done before he died. Albums like War Heros
and Loose Ends are mostly mindless studio outtake material, and Crash
Landing and Midnight lightning were taken from partially complete studio
multi track recordings. Alan Douglas, the guy in charge of all the Hendrix
recordings now, took the original multitracks and used only Jimi's vocal
and guitar parts having studio musicians come in and rerecord the rest. The
results were cleaner sonically, but let alot to be desired musically. For
those of you interested in Hendrix, I whole-heartedly recomend a new book
on him that was just released a few months ago. It's called "Jimi Hendrix -
The Real Story" or something like that. It was written with Eddie Cramer,
who was the engineer on 95% of all the Hendrix recordings. I've read alot
about Jimi, and this is easily the best book yet, by a mile. It appears
that there are NO Hendrix/Miles tapes around, and they never did play
together, but Hendrix and Mclaughlan did do a little bit of stuff together,
and the Brecker Brothers did some tracks with him as well. (I think it was
them, might be wrong on that.) This book is the best historical/musical
look at Hendrix and doesn't place undue importance on his drug use and sex
life life other books have....

                                                       Tom
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Subject: Re: singing
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:15:35 GMT

I'm seeking advise on how to keep one's voice in good shape .
I have quite a good voice with a fairly wide range but after a session
of singing my voice is wrecked for a good  while after that .
I've tried taking vitiman C,  Paracetemol, cough syrup , hot drinks 
wearing scarfs to keep my neck warm.
What am I doing wrong?
I play guitar and sing and want to go out busking before it gets really
cold so what should I do ?
Is there a way to strengthen one's voice to avoid wrecking it ?

Any help much appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
                      Peter Lemass.

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:07:00 EST
From:         CMBIRCH@INDSVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      It's time for a reality check.

Hey Allmusicers,

    Have any of you people ever writen some original music, or do you just
take every opportunity to critique everyone elses?
    Back in the good ol' days of the Allmusic list, people presented
lots of creative ideas on music and gave advise on how others could
go about it.
    Nowadays it's all:  Bitch bitch bitch or he said that I said that
he said that I said...etc.
    This list needs some creativity.  Get a few guitars, assorted amps
and drums and a garage and have a blast!  My band just sets up a
Wal-Mart el cheapie radio and records our improvs.
    Instead of talk it. Do it.

Jade
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Subject: Re: Motorhead on the Tonight show
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:08:00 GMT
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I didn't see the tonight show, but have some comments to place on the metal
genre. This kind of goes along with the Sellout messages being posted. Motorhead
   must be given credit for being one of the first few real metal bands. However
   ,
having heard their latest album, my advice to the band is to quit while ahead.
Honestly, I really think the new album is very lame. Now on to something I've
been meaning to get off my mind for awhile. What happened to Metallica?! Those
sellouts! Their new album has me disgusted! Every song is going up the MTV
charts, there is a ballad in the true sense of the word on the album, and the
lyrical content of the songs is about as thought provoking as blue cheese! What
happened? One day, metal band with strong lyrical content and interesting music,
   the next just another glam band seemingly from L.A. Anybody agree with me her
   e?
Maybe this has something to do with the fact that the same guy who produced
Motley Crue's latest garbage did the producing on this one. I recently sold back
   they're CD for $2 bucks, and was happy to get that. Maybe I'll go pick up the

new Warrant album or something...
        - Gabe Weinstock
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:42:23 EDT
From:         RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      Pearl Jam and Queensryche

< chance, but I have heard Pearl Jam and they're IMHO (re-read that IMHO)
< they are a joke.....L.'trying to be fair'W.

Well, I gotta say that I personally love Pearl Jam...The first time I heard
them, I was thrilled that somebody was still doing hard driving rock to which
you just can't sit still. They also seem to have a helluva fun time playing
their stuff live...I like their use of some different guitar sounds then you
would normally hear. It's kind of a shame that they've become so popular this
quickly, because many of their original fans from the Seattle scene are now
dismissing them. I guess it's only Grunge until it's popular...Not arguing with
you Leonard; I can see how their style of music wouldn't appeal to someone
(though I think anyone who likes good solid guitar rock should like these
guys). Just adding my own HO to the fray...

I think you might find Queensryche interesting. I don't know much about them,
but give a listen to their most recent and fairly popular _Empire_ CD. Check
out the hit "Silent Lucidity". Very interesting. The title track is also a
good example of how they aren't a run-of-the-mill "heavy" band.

Bob T

P.S. OO! OO! WOULD YOU MAIL SRV TAPES TO CANADA??!! OO! OO!
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:28:52 EDT
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Subject:      Clutching at Strawbs

< How about Strawberry Alarm Clock?

< Hey, does anyone happen to know whether this band and the Strawbs
< (who I never heard) were related?  The same?

The only thing I know from The Strawbs is a 70s (early?) album called
_Hero and Heroine_. I really like the title track (nice meshing of keyboards
guitar), but I didn't think too much of the rest of it. Definitely fits into
Ilia' "progressive" category...

Strawberry Alarm Clock...hmmm...from the 60s I think. Weren't they the band
that had that minor hit "Incense and Peppermint"? Can be heard on your
favourite yuppy 60s flashback radio station...

Later,

Bob T
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On Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:12:02 CDT Paul Heroy said:
>knocked out over this guy, I'll definitely be looking for that album. Hope
>it lives up to his live sound.
It's a good album, but as you know albums rarely live-up to the live sound
& energy..I really find him a little too sinister for my tastes but I still
listen .......L.'kingoftherunon'W.
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:44:09 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      SRV Reveiw

I listened (several times) to the new SV cd (it was b4 he added RAY)
and it;s quite good but way to short. The liner notes said they couldn't
get them to stop, they had a backlog of an hour's worth of commercials, and
the tape ran out and SRV was still going. I think the version of all your
loving (i miss loving) is the best i've heard. Alos since everyone knows
me and SRV are close, I haven't liked everthing he's put out, so just because
it's SRV doen't mean i like it.

Has anyone heard the new Robert Cray, if so let us know about it would you
recommend it. Strong Pursuader is still my favorite Robert Cray.

Damn SRV, Duanne, some jimi, Buddy  are hell with those three chords, i guess
they chose the blues because they don't have the talent to use more chords
Pretty stupid what you think, .......L."flame-retardent"W.
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              15 Oct 1992 13:10:27 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS. OHIO-STATE.EDU>

On Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:10:27 EDT Sonia Kovitz said:
>For starters--the subject of this post went right BY me--this time it can't be
>a Zappa lyric so what else am I totally ignorant of???
>
Gaelic, at a guess  :-)
>
>Yesterday (I think) Tim the Liquified Pollster said he disliked the sound of an
>opera trained voice.  I was glad to read that because I have always felt the
>SAME way but was afraid to confess it.   Occasionally some operatic singing
>passes muster but most of it makes me CRINGE.... why is this???
>
> Sonia "crackpot"

Dunno.  Me, I absotively *detest* fat, slow, wide, gooey vibrato &/or vibrato
used on every note.  I like my voices crisp, clear, precise, and light. . .
(especially the ones I hear in my head.)  Which is why opera is a gingerly
acquired taste, for me, and one that I did not acquire *until* falling in love
with an opera singer :-) (and :-(, as it didn't work out).
From: TIFFANYDE@URVAX.BITNET (alt.wasted.time)
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Date: 11 Oct 92 22:48:00 GMT
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>While Rites of Passage is the IG's latest and best album, if you truly want to
>get a feel from where they're coming from, take their studio albums in the
>order of release: 1987 Strange Fire (re-released 1989), 1989 Indigo Girls,
>1991 Nomads Indians Saints, 1992 Rites of Passage.  I'm in a rush now, but
>I'll be VERY VERY glad to answer ANY questions about the Indigo Girls--personal
>, musical, whatever.

I'd forgotten about _Strange Fire_.  What's it like?  It is their one album
I don't have.

later days and sunny rays,
                          D.T>
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Date: 15 Oct 92 00:21:00 GMT
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I forgot who it was who reccomended that I subscribe to the metal/thrash list,
but I was unable to access the list. How do I go about subscribing to the list
thrash@key.amadhl.com?
        - Gabe the Articulate

I demand a reply or my fierce rage will be squandered on you, mortals! >:-)
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:16:37 MEZ
From:         Paul Hosken <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Epic deput albums

  OK, here we go again...another top/favourite/best-of list: (not in any
particular order)

 o Simply Red - Picture Book
 o Frank Zappa - Hot Rats
 o Sade - Diamond Life
 o King Crimson - In the Court of the Crimson King
 o Led Zeppelin - Zep I
 o Laurie Anderson - Big Science
 o Tracy Chapman - Tracy Chapman
 o Dire Straits - Dire Straits
 o Marc Cohn - Marc Cohn
 o It's a Beautiful Day - It's a Beautiful Day
 o Free - Tons of Sobs
 o Santana - Santana
 o Jimi Hendrix Experiance - Are You Experianced?
 o Steeleye Span - Hark! The Village Wait
 o Elvis Costello - My Aim is True
 o Ian Dury - New Boots and Panties
 o Bonzo Dog Doodah Band - Gorilla
 o Crosby, Stills & Nash - CSN
 o David Crosby - If I Could Only Remember My Name
 o Stephen Stills - I
 o Niel Young - *forgotten the title*
 o Terence Trent D'Arby - *forgotten title*
 o Sting - Dream of Blue Turtles

---pause fort breath---this list is endless!!!---

 o UB40 - Signing Off
 o Roxy Music - Roxy Music
 o Manassas - Manassas
 o Curved Air - Air Conditioning
 o Rolling Stones - Out of Our Heads (was this their first?)
 o The Wailers - Burnin'
 o Bunny Wailer - Blackheart Man
 o Rico - Man From Warika
 o Kate Bush - The Kick Inside
 o Spliff - *never can remember this title - something like 577768*
 o Steely Dan - *was their first Countdown to Ectasy'?*
 o Mahavishnu Orch. - Inner Mountain Flame
 o Culture - When the Two Sevens Clash
 o Stranglers - Ratus Norvegicus *or whetever*
 o Sex Pistols - Never Mind the Bollocks
 o Clash - *forgotten*
 o Television - Marque Moon
 o Bruce Hornsby & the Range - The Way It Is

---yawn---bored yet?---

 o Van Morrison - Astral Weeks
 o Alison Moyet - Alf
 o Dexy's Midnight Runners - *memory fails me - Searching for the Real Soul
                             Rebels - or something*
 o Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells
 o Blind Faith - Blind Faith
 o Cream - *?*
 o Eric Clapton - Eric Clapton
 o Family - Music In A Doll's House
 o Little Feat - Dixie Chicken *was this their first?*
 o John Cooper Clark - Disguise In Love
 o Level 42 - Level 42
 o Alan Parson's Project - Tales of Mystery & Imagination
 o Pink Floyd - Sauce Full of Secrets
 o Madonna - True Blue ***yes it IS a good album - & I'm no Madonna fan!***
 o Average White Band - AWB *hands up all those who admit to remembering them*
 o Hot Chocolate - Cicero Park *well, this isn't my kind of music, but it
                               was their first LP and consisted of nothing
                               but hits - it used to get played a hell of a
                               lot in the discos I used to go to*
 o Robert Palmer - Sneaking Sally Through the Alley
 o Phil Collins - Face Value
 o Bad Company - Bad Co.
 o Lionel Richie - *forgotten the title - scraping the bottom of the barrel
                   now - I think its best if I call it a day now. But, I
                   warn you I'll be back tomorrow with a whole load more*

Paul

PS: Some of the above are absolute crackers!
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:18:03 EDT
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Subject:      Music to boat by

How about:

   The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald - Gordon Lightfoot
   Six Months in a Leaky Boat - Split Enz

Of course these two may not greatly inspire the rest of you passengers...

If you hit a patch of fog and want to unnerve the crew, try:

   Rime of the Ancient Mariner - Iron Maiden

Interesting spooky section in the middle using bits of the poem. See Leonard,
some heavy metallers can even read  B-))!!

Bob T
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  Since MHB mentioned PG (not Marco's PG) -

  Did anyone catch the world premiere of Philip Glass's
new opera "The Voyage" ?

  I heard the beginning of it, but didn't get to hear
it all the way through.

  Um, it sounded pretty much like everything else that
Glass has ever done.

  Well, that's not actually fair.  Einstein on the Beach
is not like Koyanisqaatsi, is not like Mishima is not
like Akhenaten.  But most of what Glass writes ends up
sounding like Koyanisqaatsi.  After the initial, obligatory,
shrieking sopranos, The Voyage also sounded just like
Koyanisqaatsi.  Maybe it got better later.  I dunno.
But it was a pretty disappointing start.

  Also, hearing it sung in English was odd.  I just don't
like the sound of an opera trained voice, and when they
were trying to sing the libretto, I thought it was just
terrible.  Quark, indeed.

                              -Tim
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From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject: Re: Top 5 Vocalists

>>Off the top of my head with an obvious Metal taint:
>>1)  Geoff Tate - lead vocalist of Queensryche. The voice, the man, no one
>>    else can touch him. He has lost some of his range since Queensryche's
>>    early music. Live on stage, he is even better. Very theatrical. Could
>>    probably sing opera if he wanted.

>I actually looked for some Queensryche at the library to give them a chance
>because i think some of you were right, beacuse i haven't heard them. I didn't
>find it, but maybe some of my friends children will have some (not being a
>smartass here). So stay tuned maybe i'll like them. i will give them a
>chance, but I have heard Pearl Jam and they're IMHO (re-read that IMHO)    .
>they are a joke.....L.'trying to be fair'W.

>P.S. this is not an apology but i think i was premature in judging them.
                           ..
Well, Pearl Jam and Queensryche are both from Seattle but that's it. Their
music is not similar. Pearl Jam is a 'Seattle Grunge' band, whatever the hell
that means. Queensryche is classified under progressive metal. So don't use
Pearl Jam as a judge. Give Pearl Jam a chance though. I didn't like them at all
when I first heard them but I do now, especially "Jeremy", wow! :-o

As I said before, with Queensryche, check out _Operation: Mindcrime_ if you
can. If not, look for _Rage For Order_ or _Empire_.

Seeya,
Gary
"Read between the lines, criticize the words they're selling.
 Think for yourself and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet."
- Queensryche
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:16:29 -0400
From:         "(Mark Sedran)" <mps1@CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Epic debut albums - part 2

>Tears for Fears first epic album was called "Songs from the Big Chair".
>Didn't they only do one more album and then split up?  I know Roland what's-
>his-name produced some of Oleta Adam's debut--which, by the way, was an epic
>debut also, IMHO.

I could have sworn "Songs from the Big Chair" was their second album.  I
don't know what it was called.  Their first album was just not very well
known because it didn't have any major singles on it.
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
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Subject: Re: Classical Music Poll - part I
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:04:28 GMT
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In article <ALLMUSIC%92101313284974@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET> writes:
>  The results of the classical music poll are in.
> 9 Ives                         Four Seasons, of course.
>10 Chopin
>   Haydn                        Ives in 9th place was a very surprising
>   Rimsky-Korsakoff             finish.

Well, Chuckie has more power than you imagine.

>13 Messiaen
>   Prokofiev                    I was hoping, while counting votes, that
>   Smetana                      Prokofiev would edge out Messiaen, to give
>16 Bartok                       me something else to nag the beer about,
>   Handel                       but it seems we had to settle for a tie.
>   Nielsen                      At least Debussy and Ravel didn't make the
>   Schoenberg                   list.

What, no Debussy?  Fixed!  I demand a recount!

>   Tchaikovsky
>   Webern                       Tchaikovsky and Dvorak came in surprisingly
>22 Dvorak                       low.  Having Tchaikovsky ranked with
>   Rachmaninov                  Schoenberg and Webern looks odd.

Yes it does.  Webern and Schoenberg should be No 1.  Why are they so
low?  Maybe they choked on the debates.

Jeff
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