From: starr-daniel@yale.edu (Daniel Starr)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish,bit.listserv.catholic
Subject: Re: "Feminazis" and the "abortion holocaust"
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:20:43 -0500
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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The Holocaust -- the systematic murder of 6 million Jews by Hitler's forces --
was a conscious attempt at GENOCIDE.  It was Hitler's express intention
(see documents of the period) that EVERY JEW BE SLAIN.  If he had succeeded,
not one of us would remain on this earth.  It was an evil unparalleled in
history.  It wasn't done against us as a _religion_, as the Inquisition
was; it was against us as a _people_.  There was no escape by a facade of
conversion.  There was no offer of exile.  If I or any of my ancestors
were Jewish -- were even suspected of being Jewish -- we were to be ferreted
out, rounded up, taken off to Auschwitz, to Dachau, to a thousand less
notorious but no less infamous camps to be prepared for "The Final Solution":
extermination.  Death for an entire people, because of the beliefs
of our ancestors.

And someone wants to compare this to abortion?  All right, let's compare it.
It is necessary that the Holocaust not be made light of.  NEVER AGAIN.

Our law explicitly contradicts this, but for the sake of your argument assume
that an embryo is sentient from the moment of conception.  Now,

is advocacy of abortion rights comparable with the Holocaust?

NO.

Embryos in the early stages are nothing more physically
than a ball of cells.  Only religious/philosophical grounds can convince one
that they are as sentient as born humans and that to destroy one is murder. 

We Jews are physically indistinguishable from you.  Even Hitler 
did not claim that we were not human -- merely that we were a
corrupted race, fitted only for murder.   

No one aborts a fetus just because it's a fetus.  They do it because 
they feel (rightly or not) bearing the fetus to term would directly create 
unbearable problems for them. 

We were killed simply because of who we and our ancestors are.  Not for money,
or convenience, or national need. 
For no reason but the hatred of who we are.

No woman aborts any fetus other than her own.

Hitler sought and almost achieved the death of every one of us, everywhere.

I trust the differences between the Holocaust and the advocacy of abortion
rights are clear.  There certainly would be a horror to the advocacy of abortion
rights if every fetus were a full human.  But it would be the horror of
thousands being killled by people who did not realize what they did.

It is not comparable to the horror of the Holocaust, the horror of a madman --
knowing full well what he did, and glorying in it -- seeking our total 
annihilation.

I hope this will make you understand the horror evoked in us by anyone, 
out of ignorance or melodrama, 
comparing the ill of deaths due to ignorance 
with the utter evil of deliberate genocide.

Never again.

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