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From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Saying "Yes" to Japan
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:45:14 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.japan
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <JJAS.92Dec12213956@acs.nntp-read.bu.edu>, 
jjas@acs.nntp-read.bu.edu (Jason Stephenson) writes:
=> America bent over and said "yes" to Japan in a major way.  To some extent, we
=> deserve to the economic war with the Japanese because we asked to get fucked up
=> the ass.  However, it is now time to end the charade and take this war to the
=> arena where the United States will win: military and politics.  It is time that
=> we return the "favors" they have done us in the past.
=> 	I am beginning my phase of the war by posting this one last message and
=> unsubscribing this group.--I am one gaijin who will not take it up the ass.

I was just wondering...

Are all the allusions to anal intercourse metaphoric, or has
he encountered a mysterious f*cking Japanese d*ck in a dark alley
in Pittsburgh?

Geeze... no wonder he's so p*ssed *ff!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Subject: Re: Texas Southern University marching band in To^kyo^
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:40:21 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <8fACyoa00Vp1IUJ0cx@andrew.cmu.edu> Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>incident was unique! Japanese Youths do the samethings. As well as young

	Yes, they do.  And they will be punished, too.

>people all over the world. I noticed in America that products from
>Nippon are from 6 months to 1 year late.  Those kids probably got overly
>excitied at the
>"new shit" that they saw and lost control.

	Even if this is the case, it does not justify what they did.  
	*BAD THINGS ARE BAD!!*


						TSU is not poor. And, their
>educational/academic level is satifactory. On a scale of 1 to 10, the
>student are a ten.{they can steal and con the police at the same time}.

	Academic level of the school where they belong has nothing to do with
	the issue.  If a student from a "sanryuu shiritsu daigaku" shoplifts,
	he will be punished.  If a "Toda-sei" shoplifts, he will be punished 
	as well.


>In my opinoin, they should be invited back to attend a more extented
>cultural exchange. This is the first time that I ever heard of a large
>number of "brothers" coming to Nippon. If they gave a proformance it was
>worth in.

	Disagreed.  What they need is NOT a cultural exchange or inter-cultural
	education, but is to discipline themselves.  If one cannot control 
	himself, no education will work on him.


>
>factilites at this University are outstanding. I'm a CMU Master CE. I
>have serious doubt as to the majority of this newsgroups mathematical
>abilities myself. 

	So what????


>			You all should not put down these black kids. The

	They are no longer kids.  They will be punished not because they are 
	blacks but because they did wrong things. 

[the rest of offensive and incomprehensible stuff deleted]


	As many of the fellow netters have already pointed out, belonging to 
	one of the groups of so called minorities does not justify any wrong
	doing.  Shoplifting committed by a black is nothing different from 
	one by an Anglo American or a Japanese.

	Bad things are bad in any society.  Those who do bad things will be 
	treated as they are supposed to.  The TSU students who disgraced their
	school should be, and probably will be, treated in a way they should be.


						Tetsuya Nishimura


	P.S. to Mr. Asano;
		
		Can't you still control your use of offensive language yet?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: comptec91025@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Ian Hobday)
Subject: Telephones in Japan
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 06:19:45 GMT

Well, since I have received such good answers about the rest of my questions, 
I figured I would ask another!

What does it cost to get a phone installed in Japan (Osaka area, in case it 
matters).  How about monthly charges?  Are all calls by the minute?  Is 
there a difference between local/long distance?  Do apartments ever come with 
phones installed (what is the norm?)?

Thanks,

Ian.
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COMPTEC91025@camins.Camosun.BC.CA                Victoria, BC  Canada
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: strange beverages
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:48:31 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

In article <Bz4Bp1.7wI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, mako@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu ("Makoto Shimojima, Univ of Tsukuba/CDF") writes:
>Jonathan Papai quotes Greg Franklin as saying:
>>                                                           the liqueur
>> called Midori (which means "violinist" in Japanese) is...
> 
> The word "Midori" has nothing to do with the word "violinist" except
> that there is a young, and quite famous, Japanese violinist named
> Midori Gotou, or just "Midori".

How dare Jonathan call me uninformed!  All for lack of a :-).  Furrfu.

I posted the original article on alt.folklore.urban as newbie bait,
because the denizens there are very tolerant of such practices.  It
was a joke, of course .... I know the meaning of "midori," and I
never would have attempted to post the same stuff here.

All the same, Japan does have some strange beverages, many more than
in the U.S.  Why does Japan's beverage industry have so many brands?
Do they really have that much money?
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin  "People that are really very weird can get into
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu   sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact
Keep circulating the tapes.      on history." -- Dan Quayle, on Malcolm X

"Father yes son, I want to kill you.  Mother, I want to----WUAAAAAAAAAAARGH!"
	-- Jim Morrison, waxing poetic on family values
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:54:25 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Vernon Jordan

Ladies and Gentleman,

                                              I'm so happy that
President Clinton has the likes of Vernon Jordan on his staff. Believe
it or not as  chief of the Clinton adminstration transition.  As I'm
looking at his picture with Sectretary
of Treasury Lloyd(You're no John Kennedy)Bentsen Vernon Jordan is a
Handson Black man.  I think that he will take Jim Bakers old job! That
will be great! After all these years, through the  hardships of the
civil right movement{as a matter of fact, he maybe the leaders who
started the civil rights movement. I'll have to get back to you on
that}through the  "trickle-down" period right up until now. What a great
show! Yes, he surely is a Beatiful Black man!

Vernon Jordan America needs you now more than ever. The inner cities
have become battlegounds snuffing out the lives out American most gifted
young. You most of all know how to deal with this. After all these
years! I have no doubt that your presence in this administration will
greatly intensify those around you to work harder, more honestly, and in
touch with the American people-for they need help! President Clinton
didn't select you for nothing. That why I a unique  fondness for this
man.
Mr.  Jordan the work is before you.  The mess that Reagan and Bush left!
Let's take out the trash!
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: What would you want as souvenir from Japan?
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:56:34 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <BzA89n.5pC@ncifcrf.gov>, masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov 
(Michiaki Masuda) writes:
=> 
=>   I am planning to go to Japan in coming January and will stay there for
=> a few weeks.
=> 
=>   I am thinking of getting some omiyage for my American colleagues and
=> friends. Although some people seem to be interested in Japanese traditional
=> paper/wooden crafts, others don't. I wonder what could be appreciated
=> as nice souvenir from Japan. 
=> 
=>   As I understand it, there are quite a few American netters in this group
=> who visited Japan before or had some cultural interaction with Japan(ese). 
=> Therefore, I'd like to ask a big favor of you.
=> 
=>   "What would you want as souvenir from Japan?"

Miyazawa Rie.

=>   "What attracted your attention or interest most in Japan?" 

My company told me I had to go there. I got interested in a hurry.

=>   "What would be the most 'Japanese' souvenir for Americans (or for you)?"

Hmmm... my father-in-law once gave me a bottle to put sake in that
was made from a dried squid body. The sake, when heated in that
leathery sack, was imparted with the most exquisite flavors of the
Sea. Note: definition of exquisite varies from person to person.

=>   "What was the most memorable Japanese souvenir?"

See above... but if you brought me Miyazawa Rie, then the squid bottle
might come in second place.

=>   As my budget is not so profuse and I'm thinking of buying rather many 
=> pieces of omiyage in order for me to use some of them as a birthday gift
=> and some such, something with a reasonable price (less than 3,000 yen? 
=> 500-1,500 yen is preferable) and a reasonable size should be fine.

I guess this rules out a new LEXUS... and probably Rie too. Please check
out the squid bottles. I once brought a friend a bottle of liquor with
a lizard in it that I bought in Yokohama Chinatown. He loved it, but
his wife curses me everytime we meet. Just goes to show, there's no
accounting for lack of taste.

=>   I'd appreciate it if you could post your reply or respond by e-mail by
=> January 8, 1993 (I'm leaving on Jan. 9).
=>   If I receive a significant number of replies, I'll summarize them.
=> 
=>   Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
=> 
=> --Michiaki

Always glad to help out :-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: RIKIYA ASANO
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:17:27 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan

As quoted from <Bz2vqC.2uM@ncifcrf.gov> by masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda):

>   Time to create a new newsgroup?

I suggest alt.kempetai, since RiKKKi has the same sort of interpersonal skills
which they so assiduously cultivated....


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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Super Power in new century and Yellow Peril
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:47:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.022112.1089@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.185004.3371@ryn.mro4.dec.com> verma@pfeast.enet.dec.com (Virendra Verma) writes:
>>In article <yQS=X_+@engin.umich.edu>, chyang@periphrasis.engin.umich.edu
>>(Chung Hsiung Yang) writes...
>>>	Yes, but that was the Mongolians.  The Chinese are inherently
>>>isolationists and non-vilolent.  If the Chinese had intension to 

>Inherently non-violent?

>I nearly choked on my AISU CO^HI^ when I read that.  Mr. Yang must be a
>Chinese-cu (one who is culturally Chinese).

"nearly"? Pity.

>>...	Oh really!! That is why China has swallowed Tabet non-violently.
>>	Must thank India's Nehru who did not create any trouble, otherwise
>>	the world would have known Chinese non-violent behavior.

>I always wondered why the USA and other Western nations turned a blind
>eye to Tibet.  This is regretable.  Tibet is likely the greatest source of
>blood-letting in the last 10 years.

Any facts to back that "greatest source of bloodletting" claim? 

>For this very reason, it is vital that Japan maintain a vigilant and
>militarily strong jietai.  Further, Japan needs a directly elected
>prime minister like the President of the USA; that prime minister can
>serve as the commander-in-chief of Japanese self-defense forces.
>Only a strong Japan with a commander-in-chief whose role is well-defined
>in an amended Japanese Kempoo can protect Asia from Chinese hegemony.

Excuse me, but if they are to be "self-defense" forces, how can they "protect"
anyone other than themselves? Sounds more like an expeditionary force.

>In the very likely event that China terrorizes another nation (like possibly
>the Republic of Taiwan in the future), that Japanese prime minister
>can, with the cooperation of the USA, successfully direct its military forces
>to send the Chinese armies to Almighty God.

I thought you did not think of Taiwan as a separate nation?

>Of course, Japan can do certain things to postpone the day when Chinese armies
>are sent back to their Creator.  For example, weakening China politically would
>be one route; this can be accomplished by using Japanese (and American)
>financial and political leverage to force the secession of Manchuria as
>an independent nation whose official language would be Japanese or English.
>Manchuria could then be renamed to somethng like "Shinkoku", and the people
>would be called "Shinkoku-jin".

>There are other possibilities, of course.

Of course. They could do as you suggest, only rename "Manchukoku", and incor-
porate it in some sort of "Greater Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere". All you need
to do now, DJ, is shout "Tennoheika, Banzai!"

Mike
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: mason@lion.erg.sri.com (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: ONE-DOLLAR MANGA FOR SALE
Reply-To: mason@lion.erg.sri.com (Mason Jones)
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:18:00 GMT

In article <1gp819INN8pd@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu
(Henry Robertson) writes:
|>Ladies and Gentlemen,
|>
|>Now that I have trimmed down my collection to only the very best, I would
|>like to share it with all of you manga fans in the world.  By sending me
|>ONE DOLLAR, cash or money order, I will send back to you a sample of
|>Maruo Suehiro's sci-fi/20th-century, very-non-mainstream, very-unavailable,
|>very-high-art-quality manga.  It will come with English subtitles on the 
|>margin.  If you like it, there will be instructions on the back of the
|>last page to order more.

Maruo's work is very unusual, and wonderfully-twisted stuff, but I sure
wouldn't call it unavailable.  Blast Books here in the U.S. has printed
one of his books in an English translation, and when I was in Japan in
September I found his books in numerous stores (even the Kinukuniya in
Shinjuku had them, though I had to search a bit since nobody behind the
counters had ever heard of him).  The books are fairly inexpensive in
Japan, and I've actually got a wholesale source for them from there.
They are of course in Japanese, hence not quite as useful for English
readin' folks, but to some extent you can enjoy them without being able
to read them, as much of them is silent 'action.'

   <===============================================================>
         Mason Jones, temporarily at SRI International, Inc.
            mason@erg.sri.com or better: mason@netcom.com
   <===============================================================>

                       
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: billd@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bill D'Camp)
Subject: Re: Not a Myth at All
Organization: Grumman Corporation
	<1992Dec15.155514.1576@island.COM>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:49:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.155514.1576@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
   >In article <1992Dec14.014846.769@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
   >>>leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
   >>>>I personally find that Korean-ge ladies and Japanese-ge ladies are much
   >>>>prettier than Chinese-ge ladies.  I.e. I find the Korean-ge look and the
   >>>>Japanese-ge look to be far more pleasing.
   >>>Are you sure it's the "look" and not the voice?  I find Korean and 
   >>>Japanese language to be very *appealing* when spoken in a feminine
   >>>tone.
   >>>...[dental work of Japanese-ge women
   >>>... and breast-size of Chinese-ge women]
   >>>I guess, one man's dog bite is a another man's kiss.
   >>
   >>This is getting away from my original point.  The physical appearance among
   >>Japanese-ge women, Korean-ge women, and Chinese-ge women are different,
   >>generally speaking.  The statement that was quoted was not intended to say
   >>that anyone was inherently more beautiful (beauty is in the eye of the
   >>beholder with me considering Korean-ge women and Japanese women-ge to be
   >>prettier than Chinese-ge women)[1].

   >An interesting observation, in that Japan has a good number of immigrants
   >from Korea, China, not to mention Thailand, the S Pacific Islands. The only
   >"Real" Japanese are similar to the only "real" Americans: the natives, which
   >in Japan's case means Ainu. What is REALLY interesting is that I've seen a 
   >wider variety of complexions, etc, in Japan than I did in Korea or China.
   >Yet, DJ can tell the difference at a glance.

I have a friend who has been "assumed" to be Chinese in Hong Kong and
Taipei, Thai in Bangkok and on Phuket, and Japanese in Japan.  This
was natives of the respective locations.  I've spent a lot of years in
various countries in Asia, I don't believe I can reliably tell the
ethnic origin of someone just by looking at them.  By the way, my
friend is Korean and I was with her in each of these instances, so I
know it happened.  She is NOT an exception to DJ's statement, my
ex-wife was constantly mistaken for a Chinese in Taipei (she was also
Korean).

   >>All that I'm saying is that there is a difference (and with proper experience
   >>at looking at these various types of Orientals, one can tell them apart), and
   >>I happen to consider the Korean-ge and Japanese-ge features to be prettier
   >>--a lot prettier--than the Chinese-ge features.

   >The Japanese cannot seemingly do that in their own country. Everybody who 
   >looks even silghtly Asian is "Japanese" to them.

I'll agree with that.

   >Mike
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: Pearl Harbor
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 11:35:43 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.japan

As quoted from <kf9F2o_00iV004dG1T@andrew.cmu.edu> by Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>:

> Friends,
> 
>              Yesterday marked again the time when America remembers
> Pearl Harbor. I did not know this that this day was that day. So, while

Who could have thought that you were even MORE ignorant than you at first 
seemed?  No WONDER you couldn't get into a real college?  Can you find Japan
on a map?  Can you write NIHON in kanji?

> from spending the night at school working and wasting my time writing to
> you while I was going to my home many of the white people(usually men)
> gave me this strange what seemed to be hateful look. I thought to myself

I guess more people know you than you think.  I wouldn't doubt that Sakai
Saburo could have been standing next to you and NOT have gotten any hateful
looks.  After all, he's a war hero, and you're just a hateful little 
academic failure....

> went to sleep. When I woke, I heard on WKQV(Thanks Fallas) that today
> was the day that the Japanese Attacked Pearl Harbor(Pretty name). My
> first impulse was to get into my infinity and drive that son of a &^^$#%
> in into the back of a Post Office. But I chilled!  And, I didn't do

A shame.  If nothing else, you could have been deported.  Then we'd have one
less educationally inadequate person in our country.  Have you considered 
subsistance farming?

> of the Japanese. Those people did know what the fuck I was(Nationality

No, they obviously knew what you were "personality" wise.  Is it any wonder 
that their skin crawled when they saw you?  Your reputation, like the smell of
rotting meat, precedes you.

> it make me puke and I do! Happy next Harbor Day! Merry Christmas too! 
>   
Happy Marianas Turkey Shoot to you too RiKKKi-kun.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Subject: Re: Not a myth at all
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:18:26 GMT
	<1992Dec14.172420.1302@island.COM>
	<1992Dec16.085615.10353@westford.ccur.com>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan

In article <1992Dec16.085615.10353@westford.ccur.com> hank@westford.ccur.com
   (Hank Cohen) writes:

 =}Second in an effort to use a less perjoritive term whenever it is
 =}possible I would suggest that we adopt James Fallows' suggestion and
 =}call this bloody mindedness of the Japanese 'Nationalism' rather than
 =}'racism'.

   If it were a question of citizenship then 'nationalism' might be a
better term, but since this is a question of race then it would be
better to call it 'racism'...
--
---

   I will be on vacation from 12/18 - 12/27 and will not be able to
read email during that time.  My company will be on vacation from
12/29 - 1/4 and our news and mail servers will be down during that time...

   Sorry for the inconvenience...
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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
Date: 10 Dec 92 20:09:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kf_32S200iUyQ8lKtH
	<1992Dec10.061054.2973@bluemoon.use.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Delorean writes:


> 
> Learn some history, Riki boy. Arabs and Africans had been enslaving
>each other for centuries before Europe got into the picture or the
>USA even existed. For the most part it was Africans selling other
>Africans to the foreign slave traders once Europe did get involved.


No, you should learn your history. Arabd and Africans never treated
their slaves you way that your race treated the black African. Be
serious! They treat their slaves as men. You ancestors treated the Black
man as an animal. Most times less that an animal. Think about little
children treated in the most horrible way possible. Men and women....
you know what your race has done!!!! Don't play games with me!!! Sure
Africans sold slaves to the Whites but I'm sure they had no Idea(which
they hadn't) that their people would be treated so cruelly. The Japanese
should study some of the "devices" that the Caucasians made just to
"harness" the black people.  From Thumb screws to neck-ties!

> It isn't PC to remember this as it doesn't force all the blame on
>the "evil White Man" (tm), but it is true. Hell, Europeans learned
>most of the tricks of the trade from the African and Arab traders...

This statement shows how deep the racism in America really is. I am
currently reading a book called "White Racism"! I'll give the details
later. For the Japanese women, I suggest any book by Toni Morrison or
Richard Wright.
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