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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:53:13 EDT
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From:         Ta Fuh Chiam <chiam@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: VMS DECWINDOWS MOTIF 1

Ellen,

>THIS IS THE FINAL MESSAGE FROM DIGITAL ON VMS DECWINDOWS MOTIF AND THE TEI
>PROGRAMS.
>
>The VMS DECwindows Motif V1.1 commercial personal license is $265 for which
>education customers pay $132.50.  Many of the education customers received V1.0
>at no charge.  The update license to get to the new version if you are NOT
>under a service contract is $42 for which education customers pay $21.  Digital
>is committed to the VMS DECwindows Motif product.  The discussion in this
>conference has been disappointing for me when the assumption is that if we
>don't give it to you for free, we're difficult, we're not committed to
>standards, or products or this market.

First, let me thank you and Linda for sending out the above and another message
about the DECwindows Motif licensing issue to clarify the confusion that we have
had. The licensing for DECwindows Motif has been very confusing. I reposted one
of the message from this list on the BUSINESS_PRACTICES conference on DECUServe
(the VAX NOTES conferencing system for DECUS members who subscribe to it, for
those who do not know what DECUServe is) and many people (non-education
customers) are confused about it too. Your and Linda's message certainly give us
a clearer picture now. At any rate, I think the DECwindows Motif confusion is a
legitimate issue (again, not only for education customers like I have just said)
and we, unfortunately, simply have to deal with it. It is frustrating but I
guess that is life. :-) sigh.

I can certainly understand your disappointment. I must admit that some of us
education customers are sometimes "spoiled" by the free software offer from DEC.
Sad but true, many may have taken it for granted. In my opinion, education
institutions are so used to getting stuff for free or at low-cost (heck, some of
us even have a special office or department specifically for this kind of stuff
like fund raising) that even a small thing like the DECwindows Motif issue will
raise some noise and dissatisfaction. It is sort of like a mentality of
education customers and you unfortunately have to deal with it. :-) sigh.

I hope your disappoinment will fade away quickly. :-) I think all of us do
appreciate what you and the TEI folks have done for us, the education customers.
I bet it is a thankless job.

Once again, thanks for all the effort you and your staff have put in!

Ta Fuh Chiam

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