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From: haible@ma2s2.uucp (Bruno Haible)
Subject: Re: another CLISP problem
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:11:03 GMT

> reached line 743 in debug.d

When using CLISP with gcc 2.2.2d (and the setjmp.s patch), a problem appears
when the debugger is entered. For the moment I only have a workaround:
Do a
           (setq *break-driver* nil)
at startup. For example, write this into a file myinit.lsp and start clisp with
the command-line option
           clisp -i myinit
This will disable the debugger, returning to a very primitive debugger.
Its only useful command is (SHOW-STACK).
Note that the stepper will suffer from the same problem, so don't use it.

I will investigate the problem and then replace the binaries, if necessary.

Bruno Haible
haible@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: problem with mail (from mailpak 1.3)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:58:52 GMT

Kristo Kaarlo Matias (kkk@field.ichaos.nullnet.fi) wrote:

: Local mail seems to work ok, but delivering mail outside doesn't work.
: If I type "mail kikka@hut.fi", the mail text is dumped to /tmp/dead.letter.
: It also creates /usr/spool/uucp/phobos/C.phobosN001e and nothing else. (phobos
: is my smart-host).
: 
: Contents of C.phobosN001e:
: S D.magmaN001d D.magmaN001d root -C D.magmaN001d 0666
: S D.magmaX001c D.magmaX001c root -C D.magmaX001c 0666
: 
: What's going on...?
: 
: I'm using Linux 0.97pl5 and GCC 2.2.2d.

Hmmm...do you have a /usr/lib/uucp/paths file that's readable by the mail
group and does it contain a "smart-host" line?
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: applying patches to kernel source question
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:38:06 GMT
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu




i am attempting to compile a new version of linux using GCC 2.2.2d.
Before i go to 0.97.2, i am trying to recompile 0.97.1 (which I
already have) in a an effort to get a feel for the process.

First, where might i find the patch command? i have an old one
from binar095.tar.Z that used to be on tsx-11 but has subsuquently
been erased.

Second, how do I apply the patches?? If i do a 'patch<patch1'
for example it asks me for a filename for each hunk.

thanx in advance


-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis    "ask me why and i'll die/and if you must go to work
Thieves Like Us      tomorrow/well, if i were you i wouldn't bother/for there
mal11@po.cwru.edu    are brighter sides to life/and I should know because I've
                     seen them/but not very often/am I still ill?"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bibhas@pico.engr.mun.ca (Bibhas Bhattacharya)
Subject: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Keywords: UNIX
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:03:41 GMT

This months BYTE screams out asking "Is UNIX dead?". A closer scrutiny
of the article proved it's just the otherwise. Are these people trying
to form a public opinion by some kind of a cheap sneaky media proaganda
or are these people smart as anybody else? Are they completely bought
out or just being responsible journalists to guide the common people towards
more productive computing. I can, frankly, never convince myself with the later
arguments. As always perhaps, money rules.
Bibhas.
From: gt6698a@prism.gatech.EDU (Andrew Hobson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Local Bus with Linux
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:31:34 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Hello!

I think I have seen this, but I can't remember.  A friend of mine
is getting a 486 with local bus vga and a local bus IDE controller.
Will he be able to use this with Linux?  I think he should be able to,
but if someone could email me and confirm this, it would be greatly 
appreciated.

Drew Hobson
gt6698a

-- 
Andrew Hobson                         Internet: gt6698a@prism.gatech.edu
"He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already
earned my contempt.  He has been given a large brain by mistake,
since for him the spinal cord would fully suffice."   -- Albert Einstein
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ramesh@utdallas.edu (R. Ramesh)
Subject: What is a good (performance) Video Card to run X2.0?
Reply-To: ramesh@utdallas.edu
Organization: The University of Texas at Dallas, ACC
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:07:11 GMT

I apologize for bringing a question that does not seem relate too well to this
group. But the question is about running Xfree86 under linux. So I thought
this group is more appropriate than any other group.

Having failed (miserable I feel) to get my SpeedStarPlus to do what I want
with newer versions of X (I can only get interlaced modes and they just kill
me), I have decided to upgrade my hardware (video card, the monitor is just
fine) to a better (read "can get info easily about") one. Of course I would
also like to get better performance while upgrading. I read a couple of
articles about ATI being nice to give info on their cards. So I asked around
for models.  And you know when you shop you get all kinds of questions. Here
are a few

1) How many ATI Ultra models exist - and what kind of difference in price and
   performance is expected? (I was told (by a sales person) about 4 types: 
   Ultra, Graphics Ultra, Ultra+ and Ultra Pro). Gateway wants to sell me
   Ultra for $239 and local store wants $430 for Graphics Ultra - The price 
   seem to suggest vast difference in performance - but I talked to a dumb 
   sales person who did not know what resolution means.

2) I think 8514 version of X supports (only beta, I think) ATI ultra - Please
   correct me if I am wrong about this.

3) Are there any other cards worth comparing with the ATI's in
  "bang-for-the-price-and-usability-with-X".

I have a NEC 5FG that can do 1280x1024 upto 74Hz (video bandwidth 135Mhz and
vertical sync 55-74Hz).

Sorry to bother with these questions. If I get info useful to the c.o.l, I will
summarize.

Thanks.

Ramesh

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: olafabbe@w251zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Olaf Schreck)
Subject: Re: I Can't get the Linux kernel to compile...
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 12:21:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep17.025359.15846@cs.ucla.edu> aviz@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Dr Algirdas Avizienis) writes:
>	Sorry to post this, I'm sure this must be an FAQ of some
>sort, but I can't get the linux kernel (0.97pl1) to compile.
>
>I'm using GCC 2.2.2d and linux 0.97pl1.  I read the README.kernel_srcs,
>and I created a symlink using ln -s /usr/src/linux/include/linux /usr/include/linux
>and I also did a make dep after installing GCC 2.2.2d.
>
>It goes fine until it gets to build.c, then it has parse errors with
>signal.h and can't compile build.c.
>
>I've looked through all the FAQ's and the README's and read this newsgroup
>for about a week, but i've still had no luck.  Any help would be VERY
>much appreciated.
>
>Thanks a lot in advance.
>
>PLEASE reply, either by e-mail or through a post, because I want to install
>the later patches..
>

I have exactly the same problem. Somebody out there who can give 
directions? Thanks alot. Olaf
From: swaliff@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Steve Aliff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Maxtor 7213A owners: read this! (replacement drive installed)
Summary: Results with new drive summarized.
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:00:10 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

Follow-up to the Maxtor 7213A problem:

I received a replacement drive from Maxtor, PCBA rev level 63A. I
installed this new drive, first under DOS, then under Linux. Under
DOS, I executed Norton Utilities' CALIBRAT pattern test with 5
patterns -- no problems found. I also executed On Track's read-only
diagnostics -- no problems.

I booted Linux using the SLS 0.96c boot disk and partitioned the
drive; after installing the SLS release, I executed "ufstst" as
before. While I still get a small number of timeouts (8 for the
entire run), I no longer get garbled data. I changed HD_DELAY to
1,000 (per Linus' suggestion) and the timeouts disappeared. Speed
was affected as follows (see the ufstst code posted previously):

HD_DELAY
   0: Avg. write rate = 657.34, read = 615.47, rand = 207.99 8 timeouts
1000: Avg. write rate = 657.89, read = 575.45, rand = 208.81 0
 900: Avg. write rate = 655.94, read = 576.75, rand = 210.02 2 timeouts
 800: Avg. write rate = 653.98, read = 578.41, rand = 208.32 4 timeouts

Since I haven't had the time or inclination to test the entire drive
in this fashion, there may still be undetected problems. However,
the replacement drive clearly performs better than the original.
Since the new SLS release is imminent, I'll be testing it there
soon. 

I requested the drive from Maxtor early one week and received it
Friday of the same week.
-- 
Steve Aliff (swaliff@afterlife.ncsc.mil [144.51.1.1])
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: weiler@quetzal.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jerry Weiler)
Subject: Re: setjmp problems with X source
Originator: weiler@quetzal.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: NAIVE - New And Improved Virtual Environment
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:17:01 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.200539.3980@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> fsmith@grind.cheme.cmu.edu (Frank Smith) writes:

   I've installed jump4.1 with 2.2.2d, yet I still get the following errors when
   compiling most X source.  The following example is from the xv source:

   ----
   % make
   gcc -o xv xv.a libjpeg.a libtiff.a -lX11 -lm
   xv.a(xvjpeg.o): Undefined symbol _setjmp referenced from text segment
   xv.a(xvjpeg.o): Undefined symbol _setjmp referenced from text segment
   make: *** [xv] Error 1
   % 
   ----

   What's the problem?  What do I need to change in order for it to use the jump
   libraries?  Any help on this would be appreciated.


This comes from trying to link .a files that were compiled with gcc 2.11c.

You need to recompile xv from scratch.

- Jerry
From: umisef@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Bernd Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: X2.0, kernel 0.98 TCP problems
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:33:57 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg

When trying to compile and run xtrek on my linux system, I encountered
some strange problem.
First of all, I use X11V2.0beta, linux 0.98 with tcp compiled in,
and have grabbed the configuration files posted some days ago.
I then changed every "xavier" into "linux" (that's what my machine
is called), and now I can telnet to my own machine.
ftp connections get refused (any idea?), but in X, the 
display option of most programs seems to work.
Only... something is going wrong. After several requests (actual
number depending on program, but reproducable), I get a message like this:
# xcalc -display linux:0
XIO:  fatal IO error 22 (Invalid argument) on X server "linux:0.0"
      after 633 requests (620 known processed) with 0 events remaining.

This is definitly no error with xcalc, as 
# xcalc -display unix:0
works fine. 
Speaking of xtrek: it opens a window and draws
some details in it, and debugging gave me lots
of well-handled expose-events. The function
that gave the error was: 

XPending(display),

with display at the value of 0x64000, which has worked several
times before.
Maybe it's of some interest that I took out the wd device 
from the kernel (loopback's next_device entry is NULL).

Well, I don't have any idea what is responsible for this. TCP?
X? Maybe even the socket code? Any help would be extremly
welcome.

Thanks in advance,
     Bernie

umisef@mcshh.hanse.de
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Chinese XTerm Wanted
From: DAVIDHO@arizvm1.ccit.arizona.edu
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 13:30:35 MST
Distribution: comp.os.linux,local
Organization: University of Arizona

Rob,
     I got some problems sending you mail.
Could you please tell me where I can get the Chinese XTerm.
 
Thanks,
 
David Ta-wei Ho
 
davidho@dopey.rc.arizona.edu
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org (Felix S. Gallo)
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
Followup-To: rec.games.netrek
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 07:34:18 GMT

badger.717563481@phylo> badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger) writes:
>
>TeX does have a future - as an output format created by wysiwyg X editors...

Maybe when X appears on my screen at 1500 DPI.

TeX gives one the ability to write extremely precise, device-independent
files which the user can modify to meet minute formatting specifications.
Files in TeX can be edited and written on extremely low resolution
terminals, such as most X terminals; TeX itself can output files which
are easily converted into the lingua franca of real life typesetting
equipment.

By comparison, most 'WYSIWYG' editors are falsely advertising by
definition, as most screens are nowhere near print-quality.  I won't
even go into how standard PC editors emit vague, proprietary files
which (in my experience) can have errors of up to an inch depending
on your choice of printer.

Further notes on how such-and-such a character-based editor/formatter/
whatever is obsolete because of the wondrous GUI tools that exist 
should probably be posted to alt.dreams.nice.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Felix Sebastian Gallo                              rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Subject: Where is the working mount?
Originator: jlnance@c00031-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:46:26 GMT


Hello All,
     I tried to mount a dos partition with linux 0.98 and 0.97.1 boot-image.
I got a core dump. /* the command was mount -t msdos /dev/hda1 /mnt */.  I
susposed that this was due to a bad mount on the root disk, as I have heard
several people say this this version had a bug in it.  I went up to tsx-11 to
get a new mount, but I could not find one that had already been compiled.  Does
anyone know where one is?

Thanks,

Jim Nance
From: tdunbar@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Thomas Dunbar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: xdvi: xfopen fix
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:02:29 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA


 the xdvi patch level 16 source yields a binaries that will crash if lots of
fonts are used. a patched binary is in the new TeXmisc.TZ i'm uploading to 
tsx-11.mit.edu. (i changed the xfopen routine in util.c)
 thomas (tdunbar@vttcf.cc.vt.edu)
From: donbon@gw.neuronet.pitt.edu (Don Bonaddio)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: mcc-interim installed -- Now SLS ? Preferences ?
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:34:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: gw.DONBON.92Oct5103420
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Organization: none


I have the mcc-interim 0.97px installed. Got x.v1.1(I think) and X works
fine.

Now, what if I want to use the New SLS when it comes out. Can I install it
over my mcc-interim or do I have to do over ?

Any preferences out there for mcc or SLS ?

thanks,
db
--
								  Don Bonaddio
	  University of Pgh Health Center and Childrens Hospital of Pittsburgh
				 (412)692-7179-Voice  donbon@neuronet.pitt.edu
				 (412)692-5093-Voice  donbon@unix.cis.pitt.edu
							   (412)692-5921-FAX
From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: My frustration with Linux grows (How do I...)
Date: 3 Oct 92 11:01:21 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

farrow@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (J. Scott Farrow) writes:
>I would like to upgrade Linux to the latest version, but can't seem to
>find any info about updating my root disk, just the kernel. Do I not have to? 
>I have the 0.96 root disk, and am running the 0.97 kernel without noticable
>problems.

There is a version 0.97.1 of the rootdisk, at least on nic.funet.fi.  I
think it was announce on comp.os.linux in the normal manner (i.e., the
announcement was overcrowded by some flame war or another).

>I have yet to find source for /bin/echo or tr. 
>(How the hell can I not have /bin/echo? Isn't that pretty standard?)

Since echo is a builtin in all shells, there isn't a GNU version
included in any package, which pretty much explains why there is none
for Linux.  (There is a manpage for a GNU version, and after you have
read that, you don't _want_ a GNU version.  Trust me. :-)

Apart from that, a simple /bin/echo can be written rather easily.  See
the end of this posting for the version I use.

tr is part of GNU textutils, I think.

>It seems like whenever I want to do something with Linux, it requires 
>something else that I don't have, so I get the source for that, which
>requires source for something else....

Have you tried MCC or SLS?  They are not the bleeding edge (and when
they are, they don't stay like that for very long), but at least you
don't have to bleed yourself in putting toghether a system.

--
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi
Wanted: Heavy weaponry for satisfying use against MS-DOS system disks.


---cut here for echo.c---
#include <stdio.h>
#include <string.h>

int main(int argc, char **argv) {
	int nonewline = 0;

	if (argc > 1 && strcmp(argv[1], "-n") == 0) {
		nonewline = 1;
		--argc;
		++argv;
	}

	if (argc > 1) {
		printf("%s", argv[1]);
		--argc;
		++argv;
	}

	for (; argc > 1; --argc, ++argv)
		printf(" %s", argv[1]);

	if (!nonewline)
		printf("\n");

	return 0;
}
From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Who will handle publicity for Linux 1.0?
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:02:51 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <717558758snx@crynwr.com> nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:
>When Linux 1.0 is released, who is going to send out all the press
>releases?  We can't just let Linux be available to the on-line
>community.  We have to let everyone else know about it.  And besides
>which, there are a lot of people who just don't read Usenet (no time,
>too much flamage, too random, etc).
>
>If no one else is going to do it, I'll volunteer...
>
>-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
>Crynwr Software            Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
>11 Grant St.               315-268-1925 Voice
>Potsdam, NY 13676          315-268-9201 FAX

Would something as simple as the Linux bunch here agreeing on a suitable
blurb that can be placed on a flyer (read: 8.5x11 sheet of plain, folded
paper) and distributed to local computer stores (read: placed next to the
cash registers) for folks to pick up and peruse be out of the question?
Most stores are willing to let you take up a few inches of counter space
for something like this. 

I know this is more of a passive form of advertizing, and I'm sure most
folks would like a more active form, but the costs for high-quality
advertizing can get pretty steep.

If this or something like this is agreed upon,  I'd be willing to help
distribute Linux info in my area.

--Brian
__________
Brian Talley, Systems Consultant, Eastman Kodak Research Labs, Rochester, NY
talley@acadia.kodak.com
From: carl@boxelder.Berkeley.EDU (Carl vonLoewenfeldt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re:  High speed modems (esp. Gateway Telepath)
Keywords: modem, linux, high speed, Telepath, Kermit
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:59:51 GMT
Reply-To: carl@boxelder.Berkeley.EDU (Carl vonLoewenfeldt)
Followup-To: Article 3821, <1992Sep19.225150.18098@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: IBM Boulder, Colorado

"I've been using linux+X+telepath for almost a month without any
problems. "
His configuration, BTW, is:  kernel 0.97p5, X11 v 2.0 + 8514a X server,
Gateway Telepath,
486/33 8 MB RAM + 12 MB swap

Other than the kernel (I'm running 0.96c) we've got identical machines. 
My question is, Tony (or anybody), did you reset the interrupt settings
on the modem, 
or change them in the kernel? 

Gateway recommends (for DOS and Windows) that the Telepath be set to IRQ
5. This is 
not what LINUX expects, and explains (chagrin) why my Telepath works in DOS but
not under lINUX.

Can somebody tell me how to change the IRQ that, particularly, Kermit
responds to 
on /dev/ttys3 (COM3)? I looked at stty, but that doesn't seem to have such 
a capability. My options seem to be to change the interrupt on the modem card 
or recompile the kernel. Would rather not do that!

Guidance gratefully accepted. Flames cheerfully shrugged off.		


Carl vonLoewenfeldt
(303) 924-9202
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sharpe@adodem.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Great marketing (Was Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:14:45 GMT


In article <3747@eastman.UUCP>, talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley) writes...
>In article <BvB0JA.7tr@ibmpcug.co.uk> gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
>>In article <1a7gv0INNc35@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>>:The leader of the Windows NT project is a guy named Dave Cutler
>>:who worked for DEC before this job.  He was asked how doing this 
>>:project was different from his earlier work.  He said ``it's the
>>:same OS, but I've never seen such marketing''.
>>:
>>:Really: it's sickening to see the way the peasants are blindly
>>:believing that Windows NT is the ``OS of the future''.  This when
>>:it's as certain as plain daylight that Microsoft will never have
>>:a market share as large as what it had in 1987, ever again, even
>>:if Windows NT can ship before end-1993 and it can be free of bugs
>>:and it can be worth using for anyone.  Remember these guys tried writing
>>:DOS, Windows, OS/2.
>>
>>Unfortunately I fear you may be wrong.  Note the "Dec" above.  Windows NT
>>is being targeted at the new Dec ultra-fast 64bit Risc line, which
> 
>Are you referring to the Alpha chip?  If so, the NT port probably ain't so
>hot, as the Alpha chip is proverbially buggier than Maine in June.
> 

Say what? I have seen systems based on the 21064 chip, and they were solid. 
Just check with the many ISVs who have them :-)

The 21064 worked on first silicon, and respins were for performance as I 
understand it.

> 
>If Microsoft and DEC work together to port an operating system (that's reputed
>in some circles to be not much better than MS-DOS), fine.  For all their work,
>they're still far behind: look at Unix.  It's been running on everything from
>Crays to 286 boxes (and below?) for a while now.
> 

Well, far be it for me to defend NT, as I really like Unix, but I would like to 
know which circles repute NT to be not much better than MS-DOS? It would also 
be interesting to know what they mean.

Windows NT has a real chance of being a big success in the commercial arena, 
and it has little to do with technical merit :-)

>As I said before, all Microsoft *really* has is the marketing team from hell.
> 
>>
>>G
>>-- 
> 
>--Brian
>__________
>Brian Talley, Systems Consultant, Eastman Kodak Research Labs, Rochester, NY
>talley@acadia.kodak.com

Regards
Richard Sharpe
These opinions be mine, Digital has its own!
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux