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From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Chevron announces progress on Kazakhstan project
Date: 29 Dec 1992 12:42:56 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
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 Chevron announces progress on Kazakhstan project

        SAN FRANCISCO (UPI) -- Chevron Corp. said Monday that its joint
 venture with the Republic of Kazakhstan to develop the Tengiz and
 Korolev oil fields on the northeastern Caspian Sea coast will begin
 full-scale operations on April 1.
        The Tengiz field is among the largest discovered in the last decade
 and more than double the size of Alaska's Prudhoe Bay field, which
 accounts for a fifth of all U.S. oil output. Tengiz contains an
 estimated 25 billion barrels of oil underground, of which as much as a
 fifth is expected to be extracted.
        For Kazakhstan, the production of oil is expected to bring a large
 influx of foreign currency. For Chevron, the project more than doubles
 its proved foreign crude oil reserves at a time when it has been cutting
 back its domestic operations.
        Chevron said Monday that since signing the joint-venture pact in May,
 it has reached agreement with the republic on all significant issues,
 including the tax structure, enabling legislation in Kazakhstan,
 organization structures, future work programs, and interim arrangements
 for the export of oil.
        The joint venture could result in peak oil production of more than
 700,000 barrels per day by 2010, and is the largest such arrangement
 between a major republic of the Commonwealth of Independent States and a
 major multinational oil company. Current Tengiz production is about 65,
 000 barrels a day.
        The 50-50 joint venture is expected to require an initial investment
 of $1.5 billion over the first three years of the 40-year pact. The
 project is seen as a major test of the wilingness of former Soviet
 republics to allow the West to help develop natural resources.
        San Francisco-based Chevron signed an agreement in June 1990 with the
 Soviet Ministry of Oil and Gas Industry to study development of Tengiz,
 but negotiations went into limbo after the 1991 collapse of the Soviet
 Union.
        Many analysts thought the project was dead, but Chevron stunned the
 industry last spring when it was able to strike the development deal
 with Kazakhstan. U.S. officials had been lobbying hard for such energy
 projects, saying they represented one of the few means for the former
 Soviet Republics to start earning hard currency.
        The investment into Tengiz comes at a time when San Francisco-based
 Chevron, the nation's fourth-biggest oil company, has set a goal of
 cutting its annual operating costs by $600 million by mid-1993. Since
 last January, it has cut its corporate-wide staff by about 5,500 to
 about 50,000.
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From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history,soc.culture.turkish
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: "This is an act against our world of civilization," writes Griyaznof.
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 13:40:49 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Distribution: world

In article <1992Dec30.121233.4856@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:

>"Serdar Argic", you think you're hot stuff, right?  You think you've got

Until further notice, the "hot stuff" you are referring to is a 
figment of your imagination. It has never existed in the real
world and never will. However, referring to notes from the personal 
diary of Russian General L. Odishe Liyetze on the Turkish front, 
he wrote,

"On the nights 11-12 March, 1918 alone Armenian butchers 
 bayoneted and axed to death 3000 Muslims in areas surrounding
 Erzincan. These barbars threw their victims into pits, most
 likely dug according to their sinister plans to extinguish 
 Muslims, in groups of 80. My adjutant counted and unearthed
 200 such pits. This is an act against our world of civilization."

On March 12, 1918 Lieut-colonel Griyaznof wrote (from an official
Russian account of the Turkish genocide),

"Roads leading to villages were littered with bayoneted torsos,
 dismembered joints and carved out organs of Muslim peasants...
 alas! mainly of women and children."

Serdar Argic

                     'This war quickly developed into one of extermination. 
                      We closed the roads and mountain passes that might 
                      serve as ways of escape for the Tartars [Turks] and 
                      then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: dave@Cigna.COM (Dave Good)
Subject: Re: "news.admin.policy" afraid of "ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism Triangle"?
Organization: Cigna FIRST - Irvine, CA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:49:20 GMT

In article <9212271800@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
>In article <root.725486928@maui> kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb) writes:
>
>>I think you have me to thank for that :-/  I complained to
>>postmaster@anatolia.mn.org that the posts were inappropriate for
>>news.admin.policy and he said that he would remove them.
>
>But why not create a newsgroup called "soc.culture.x-soviet-armenia"? 

Umm, maybe because it violates Usenet guidelines for newsgroup names?
("x-soviet-armenia" > 14 characters)

>
>Are you afraid of the ASALA/SDPA/ARF Terrorism Triangle? 
>

Nah, he's probably more afraid of the Usenet Police.

(Sorry, couldn't resist :-)


-- 
David Good                                                  dave@cigna.com

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: deniz@mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu (Deniz Akkus)
Subject: Re: ERBAKAN HOCA ve EKONOMIK PROGRAMI (Islamcilardan secmeler)
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:19:19 GMT
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In article <22959.9212241252@thor.cf.ac.uk> spebcg@thor.cf.ac.uk (Mr B G Cetiner 92) writes:
>Mr.Mark, you made a good point here I think. Yes, the money is very
>important. You should be able to buy same amount of loaf of bread with
>the same money even years later. If you treat the money as some piece of
>paper as all governments did in Turkiye today, and Darphane (?) works 
>overtime during the payments of workers and officers. In Ottoman state,
>gold was used as money. And even today (I think) if you had money made
>of gold there was little inflation.    
>

So you are suggesting that the money be backed by gold reserve.  This
was the case for the US until the 70's when the gold standard was
dropped.  Money is nothing except the fact that the government issuing
the money agrees to accept it as legal tender for debts.  

The only reason gold is a reasonable standard is because it is
relatively rare, and actually the value it reflects is not so much an
'intrinsic value' of gold, which after all is just soft yellow metal,
but the approximate number of man hours that have gone into finding and
refining it.  I wish I had the time to expound monetary systems and
capital markets in greater detail, but I don't have the time and I don't
see the relevance of such basic workings of the markets being posted in
soc.culture.turkish.  I would suggest you read up on the subject though,
it seems to me that you have no grasp of what money is, why it exists,
why it inflates/deflates/devalues and what it represents.  


regards,
Deniz Akkus deniz@ctr.columbia.edu
From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Democracy in Islam (Re: Thoughts/discussion with Mark Hubey
Date: 25 Dec 92 05:00:15 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1hdtm8INN1n8@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> hermi@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi) writes:

> How does Mr. Hubey understand 'bay'a' or oath of allegiance, isn't it nothing
> but a form of vote.  

I don't know exactly how it works. A person who doesn't vote in
America doesn't get punished. The only time I heard of 'oath of
allegiance'-like things is in the military. If you don't give it
you might get summarily executed. 

If you don't give your bay'a to your sheik what happens to you?

If nothing happens to you then I gather it's a little like
Marxist democracy. You get one candidate, and you have to vote for
him. However, the fact that the voting was secret made it possible
for the resistors to come up with a clever way of fighting back.
They started to turn in empty ballots. AFter a while, the
government started to realize that too many empty ballots means
that the candidate is not popular.

So is the bay'a performed in secret or is it required to be done
in public with the sheiks soldiers watching and at the ready ?



>Now, the Muslim community would decide what is true Islam 
and what is not, it has always done that and it does not need an official
> clergy.  The beauty of Islam, is that the rulers have not been able to force
> their views on the Ummah and it will never, and the best example would be that
> of the  Mu'tazilates and how they tried to force their views by might but 
> were eventually defeted.  

Strictly speaking what you say is not correct. There were instances
where the powerful Sultan was able to get the Sheyh-ul-Islam to
bring out the kind of fetwas that were required. In any case, to
argue the opposite is to argue that a perfect system existed in
the past. Perfect systems don't crumble. To argue that the system
that is not perfect is not Islamic is to go around in circles.

These arguments are the typical Marxist arguments. State X is
not Marxist because it has Y and Z. And we know from page
 Q and P that it is not right. Thus it is not Marxist. QED.

Besides this, I still have no idea what prompted this. The only
thing I pointed out is that democracy and Islam are
compatible. The people who argue that it is not true are the
ones who should be involved in this.  Or maybe you are
saying that bay'a is equal to voting thus;

a) it predates democracy thus is sufficient without any western
conceptions added to it.

b) it is not equal to voting but better therefore there's no need
for any western conceptions added to it.

c) something else ?? but what??
-- 

	mark	

   hubey@amiga.montclair.edu         hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
   hubey@pilot.njin.net               ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey
From: opaloneva@abo.fi (Olli-Jukka Paloneva)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Ak zambaklar ulkesinde - Finljandiya - Who knows the
     book?
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:30:46 GMT
Organization: Turku School of Economics
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

Dear fellow-netters,

The president of Turkey said in one
tv interview that he had read a book
about Finland in his childhood.

Is book "Ak zambaklar ~lkesinde - Finljandiya"
by Grigori Petrov still well-known in Turkey?
The author makes comparisons between Russian
and Finnish culture and societies in the end
of the 19th century.

Was that book widely used in education in Turkey?
Is it still used somewhere?

The latest "perfect" edition may be
that of T~rker Acaroglu, Istanbul 1968.

/UDK 882-3/
From: opaloneva@abo.fi (Olli-Jukka Paloneva)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Ak zambaklar ulkesinde - Finljandiya, who knows the
     book?
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:33:51 GMT
Organization: Turku School of Economics
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

Dear fellow-netters,

The president of Turkey said in one
tv interview that he had read a book
about Finland in his childhood.

Is book "Ak zambaklar ~lkesinde - Finljandiya"
by Grigori Petrov still well-known in Turkey?
The author makes comparisons between Russian
and Finnish culture and societies in the end
of the 19th century.

Was that book widely used in education in Turkey?
Is it still used somewhere?

The latest "perfect" edition may be
that of T~rker Acaroglu, Istanbul 1968.

/UDK 882-3/

Thanks in advance,

Olli

from the city TURKu of Finland
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: COPI3RD@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (wes)
Subject: Re: Xibo is a turkey?
Reply-To: copi3rd@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Followup-to: xibo?
Date: 31 Dec 92 07:33:39 PST

In article <1992Dec30.123734.5387@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, on 30 Dec 92 12:37:34 GMT,
jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:

>
>In article <BzDtxI.G6A@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com writes:
>>"IS KIBO RELATED TO XIBO?"
>>No.
>>
>>"WHAT'S A XIBO?"
>>A bad bozo, who isn't allowed.
>>
>>"WHY DON'T YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT XIBO?"
>>I could if I wanted to.  See, I'm allowed to.  Xibo isn't allowed.  As
>>the saying goes, "You're allowed, unless you're Harry, Glass, Xibo,
>>Spot, Sandro Wallach, Noah Friedman (after midnight), or especially
>>Patrick L. Obo."
>>
>>"WHO'S XIBO?"
>>A very bad bozo, who still isn't allowed, no matter how much he whines
>>about it.
>>
>>"WHERE'S XIBO?"
>>Sittin' in his nowhere land, making all his nowhere .plans for nobody.
>>
>>"WHY IS XIBO SO FAR AWAY FROM KIBO?"
>>Because they're on opposite sides of the real world.
>
>
what in the sam-hill is this!
From: hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Bir mani (folk song)
Keywords: Biyik
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:07:35 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Dec22.085740.2503@news.columbia.edu> ne10@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Nermin  Eren) writes:

> In article <Dec.21.15.53.11.1992.16536@pilot.njin.net> hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey) writes:
> >"Karar" is "bakar". I think "chort" means direct, or short cut
> >or in some cases, short, as in chort burun.
> 
> I think "chort" means grey. I am not sure because there is no available Crimean Tatar dictionary (at least I'm not aware of).

If it's originally Turkish then it should have similar meanings in
other Turkic languages. I have a Karachai-Balkar dictionary. Chort
means essentially short, as in chort burun. It means short cut
in other contexts, or direct line, direct path.


> That is possible. I don't know what you have in mind but if you are thinking of Russian "chort=devil" or "chert=line" are not possible from the overall 
> meaning. 

Devilishly-clipped beard ? the type of beard that the devil
has in European circles--a little pointed beard ? Even the meaning
`short-cut` (i.e. a direct path, line) points to chert. In any
case, it might not be borrowed.
-- 

	mark	

   hubey@amiga.montclair.edu         hubey@apollo.montclair.edu
   hubey@pilot.njin.net               ...!rutgers!pilot!hubey
From: selmank@sci.kun.nl (Selman Karaman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: fiil cekimi
Keywords: fiil-cekim
Date: 24 Dec 92 14:52:14 GMT
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19

Ben calistim 
Sen calistin 
O calisti
Biz calistik 
Siz calistiniz 
Onlar yediler
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Alo Vatan (Phone information service)
Date: 25 Dec 1992 21:41:04 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 During my last visit to Turkey I learned that there was a service
 in United States called Alo Vatan in order to find out
 unknown phone numbers in Turkey, i.e., it is a service like
 555-1212 in USA or 011 in Turkey.
 The numbers are (800) 825-1190 and (800) 828-2646.
 Tayfun Akin
From: Guven.Guzeldere%STANFORD.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (hq.ggg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Haberler--Milliyet
Date: 23 Dec 1992 01:57:34 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Wed Dec 23, 1992  2:13 am  EST

    -Cekic Guc santaji. Bati'dan uyari mesaji: Sureyi
uzatmazsaniz, Cekic Guc'u
 Kibris Rum kesimine tasiriz. Hukumet Turkiye'de
konuslandirilan Cekic Guc'un suresini uzatmak icin
muhalefetle ugrasirken, ABD, Ingiltere ve Fransa'dan gelen
mesajlar Ankara'ya ulasiyor. Sure uzamassa Cekic Guc'un
Guney Kibris'a , Suriye'ye hatta Kuzey Irak'a tasinabilecegi
mesaji veriliyor.
    -4 ANAP'li DYP'de. Bir sure once ANAP'tan istifa eden
Izmir milletvekilleri Isilay Saygin, Cemal Tercan,
Kirklareli milletvekili Cemal Ozbilen ile Giresun
milletvekili Ergun Ozdemir DYP'ye katildilar.
    -TUSIAD'dan kavgali istifa. Turkiye Odalarbirligi
Baskani Yalim Erez,TUSIAD 'in Yonetim Kurulu'nu Ulke
cikarlari yerine cok kucuk bir azinlik sanayicinin
cikarlarini savunmakla sucluyarak, uyelikten ayrildi.
    -Ceazaevinde PKK infazi. PKK Istanbul sorumlusu Osman
Tim, Bayrampasa Cezaevin'de arkadasi Saadettin Aydinlik
tarafindan orgute ihanet ettigi gerekce siyle bogularak
olduruldu.
    -Gozyasi BM'yi kitledi. Turk Cocuklarinin mektuplari,
New York'ta heycan yaratti. Kucuk Mine'nin gozyaslari ile
baslayan Bosna'daki katliamai protesto kampanyasi, New
York'tan ses getirdi. Milyonlarca mektup, fax ve telefon
yuzun den BM hatlari kitlendi. Genel Sekreter Gali, Turk
cocuklarinin bu insani duygu larina tercuman olacagim dedi.
BM nezninde tum yetkililer, cocuklarin eylemei karsisinda
hayretler icinde, bukadarini beklemiyorduk dediler.
Bosna'nin BM tem silcisi Sacirbey, duygularimi anlatacak
kelime bulamiyorum dedi.
    -Tanju'ya 9 yil hapis cezasi. Agir ceza mahkemesi,
Fenerbahceli milli fut bolcu Tnju Colak'i, yurda kacak
otomobil sokmak sucundan 9 yil 4 ay hapis ceza sina
carptirdi. Mahkeme ayrica 5 milyar 405 milyon liralik para
cezasina hukmet ti. Kesin karari Yargitay verecek.



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: varnavas@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (varnavas constantine)
Subject: Re: Sampson and Greek Cypriot arms acquisitions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:09:34 GMT

sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:

>>irrevelevant response to my original post) before.  If you didn't get
>>it it's not my problem Mutlu/Argic.  You don't have to take my word for
>>the illegality of the Turkish invasion.  Read the U.N. resolutions.

>Well, I'll not waste words. Still have it? Your face, that is.

Thanks for posting the Treaty of Guarantee.  Now read it it and tell me
what you understand.  I highlighted some parts for your convenience.

>                    CYPRUS - TREATY of GUARANTEE
>  
>                      Nicosia, 16 August 1960  
>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>        Greece, Turkey, and the United Kingdom, taking note of the undertakings
>    of the Republic of Cyprus set out in Article I of the present Treaty,
>    recognize and guarantee the independence, TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY, and 
>    security of the Republic of Cyprus, and also the state of affairs 
>    established by the Basic Articles of its Constitution. 
>        Greece, Turkey, and the United Kingdom likewise undertake to prohibit,
>    so far as concerns them, any activity aimed at promoting, directly or 
>    indirectly, either union of Cyprus with any other state or PARTITION OF 
>    THE ISLAND. 

>        The Republic of Cyprus, Greece, and Turkey undertake to respect the
>    integrity of the areas retained under United Kingdom soverignty at the 
>    time of establishment of the Republic of Cyprus, and guarantee the use 
>    and enjoyment by the United Kingdom of the rights to be secured to it
>    by the Republic of Cyprus in accordance with the Treaty concerning the
>    Establishment of the Republic of Cyprus signed on today's date.

>        In witness whereof, the undersigned have signed the present Treaty.

>        Done at Nicosia this sixteenth day of August, 1960, in English and 
>    French, both texts being equally authoritative.

>    For the Republic of Cyprus:
>        O KYPROU MAKARIOS       F. KUCUK
>    
>    For Greece:
>        C. CHRISTOPOULOS

>    For Turkey:
>        VECDI TUREL

>    For the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland:
>        HUGH FOOT

>Serdar Argic
-- 
Constantinos Varnavas
University of Illinois
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: tkoprulu@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Tacettin Koprulu)
Subject: Biyik Muhabbeti
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 16:08:39 EST



>In article <1992Dec18.234936.21707@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> deniz@mandolin.ctr.columbia.edu (Deniz Ak
>kus) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec18.204521.31614@eecs.nwu.edu> toroslu@eecs.nwu.edu (Ismail H. Toroslu) writes:
>>h      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>
>>>"biyik"lilarin geriligin bir gostergesi oldugunu mu dusunuyorsunuz?
>>>
>>>Hakki
>>
>Ya siz burnun altinda  bir takim killar uzatmanin cok cekici mi oldugunu
>>dusunuyorsunuz?  
>>
>>Esen kalin,
>>Deniz Akkus deniz@ctr.columbia.edu
>>
>>
>Sahsen ben oyle dusunuyorum.
>Iyi biyikli gunler
>Nermin

Zevkler ve renkler tartisilmaz. Ama insanlarin dis gorunuslerine bakip 
anlam cikartmanin da kimseye faydasi yok. 
     
						Tacettin Koprulu
Not: Hic bir zaman biyik birakmadim.
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: EC Commissioner A. Matutes on Cyprus (update)
Date: 31 Dec 1992 02:45:14 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 MATUTES: "CYPRUS ISSUE SHOULD NOT BE A PRECONDITION FOR TURKEY-EC
          RELATIONS"

 Abel  Matutes, EC  Commissioner  responsible  for relations  with
 Mediterranean countries said at the Turkey-EC Joint Parliamentary
 Commission meeting in Brussels last  week that the Cyprus problem
 should not be a precondition for Turkey-EC relations.

 The joint Parliamentary Commission, one of the partnership organs
 between Turkey  and the  EC, discussed political  developments in
 Turkey and Europe on 26 November.

 Abel Matutes, speaking on the importance of Turkey in Europe said
 that Turkey was making a  great effort to preserve Western values
 between  Asia  and  Europe  and  trying  to  prevent  clashes  in
 surrounding  regions.   He  added:  "Turkey  is   our  privileged
 partner."

 Matutes said that the Cyprus problem should not be a precondition
 in Turkey-EC relations.

 The Turkish Ambassador at the EC, Cem Duna, speaking on behalf of
 the government said that in  the last Partnership Council Meeting
 on 9  November a decision  was taken to start  political dialogue
 with Turkey without conditions, and the EC and Turkey should form
 their common future together.

 In the Joint  Commission Meeting consisting of  TGNA and European
 Parliament members, the Chairman of  the Turkish wing Tunc Bilget
 criticized the European Parliament saying  that it did not listen
 to or understand Turkey and called for a change in attitude.

 Deputy  chairman  Aydin  Guven  Gurkan  said  that  the  European
 Parliament should evaluate developments in Turkey in the light of
 foreign and domestic conditions.

 NEWSPOT, December 1992
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