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From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: Re: GIANTS ........ ARRRRRGGGGHHH !!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:46:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.172050.17084@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.035201.227@PacBell.COM>,
>jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep9.012641.1863@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu) writes:
>>>John P. Gloria (jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM) wrote:
>>>> In article <6SEP199219273412@zeus.tamu.edu> mcs4041@zeus.tamu.edu (SHARAT SHEKHAR) writes:
>
>>>> >    is it time to fire Handley or what ??!!
No, because I like going to bed on sunday/monday night pissed off 8{D.
>
>I totally agree with you John that the Giants always play the Niners
>good.  I would say that both teams have been thorns in each others
>sides for the past ten years.
>Up until this last game, the past 5 meetings between the two teams
>resulted in those games being decided by a total of 21 points.  I
>...

Yea,Tony, but, all except 1 (I think the D-line coach) is still around
from the coaching staff of the GIANTS of a few years ago.
From now on I dont think the games will be as exciting as they once were,
because the teams wont match up (style wise) like they used to, because
of the change in the GIANTS offensive/defensive schema.

>Although wasn't it in
>1986 when the two teams met in the playoffs, and the Giants blew the
>Niners off the field with a score of something like 47-3??

Actually Tony it was 49-3, and I think you guys still hold a grudge 8{D.


			RIC. IRVIN
			AT&T BELL LABORATORIES.

"TOUCHDOWN !!!! ... just kidding Dad! " my son at 18 months.

"In football, good hitting usually beats good pitching."

"... Lawrence Taylor was all over him... like syrup on pancakes." John Madden.

"...This Game is being broadcast in stereo..." Pat Summerall.
"...What does spit sound like in stereo? "	John Madden.

			PEACE.

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From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: Early Scores Update ...
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:56:32 GMT

 
Sunday, 13 September - EARLY GAMES
 
        Dallas          34                      Minnesota       17
    4   NY Giants       28  6:00 remains    4   Detroit         31
 
        Green Bay        3                      Chicago          6
    F   Tampa Bay       31                  4   New Orleans     14
 
        Atlanta         17                      Seattle          7
    4   Washington      24                  4   Kansas City     26
 
        LA Raiders      14
    4   Cincinnati      21


Under two minutes to go in the Falcons-Skins, Atlanta with no timeouts.


Bob - Redskins pick up 1st down with 1:00 to play ... :-)

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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: 16-TEAM FFL INFO!!!!!!!
Originator: delarocq@c00091-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:44:00 GMT




   The Schedule for this week:


       DATES                         PACIFIC WESTERN CONFERENCE
*******************************************************************************
* Week 1 (Sept 6-7)   * Colorado Avalanche at Houston Hurricanes              * 
*                     * Salt Lake Pioneers at Dallas Texans                   *                           
*                     *   Seattle Growlers at Austin Argonauts                *
*                     *  Spokane Transfers at L.A. Rioters                    *
*******************************************************************************
      
       DATES                         ATLANTIC EASTERN CONFERENCE
*******************************************************************************
* Week 1 (Sept 6-7)   *   Albany Shockwave at Orlando Otters                  * 
*                     * Pittsburgh Meanies at Virginia Vigilantes             *                           
*                     *Columbus Grim Reprs at Washington Nationals            *
*                     *Chicago Skyscrapers at Baton Rouge Black Plague        *
*******************************************************************************

  ALL STARTING LINEUPS ARE DUE BY 11:00 AM, SUNDAY MORNING.


  I HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT THE FOLLOWING TEAM OWNERS:

    1. Chicago Skyscrapers-- You have 2 NFC West QB's. You can pick up
       Hugh Millen or Mike Hermann if you want. They are the only two
       starters left.

    2. L.A. Rioters- You need another tight end. You can't have two TE's
       out of the AFC East!

    NOTE- IF YOU HAVE TWO OR MORE PLAYERS FROM THE SAME CONFERENCE, AND THEY
          ARE THE ONLY ONES IN THAT POSITION, YOU NEED ANOTHER. THERE
          ARE OF WEEKS IN THE NFL.

    Good Luck!

    Darrell











 
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Reporter: "Who do you think is the best running back in the NFL?"
Thurman Thomas: "The running back that went to Oklahoma State".
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From: dward@scf.nmsu.edu (Dan Ward)
Subject: Re: Madden sucks
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:10:17 GMT

Wolverine (sh666@selway.umt.edu) wrote:
: How many of you out there think that Madden is the WORST football announcer
: on the face of the planet...  Here are a few of his classic quotes..
: 
: 'They don't want to get an interception at this stage of the game'
: Excuse me?  I wasn't aware that ANY team EVER wanted an interception
: at any point during a game...
: 
: 'They have to put some points on the board....'
: Again!  Madden astounds us with his excellent grasp of the obvious.
: 
: I could go on for years.. I was wondering how many people agree with me.
: I won't even metion last weeks game when he was pointing out people who
: knew how to have a tailgate party and those who didn't.  Oh well..
: 
: 							W O L V E R I N E
: 
   I think Madden is a good announcer.  You have to consider that his
   audience includes people who really don't know the difference between
   a touch down and a home run - yet.  His spiel - while sometimes drivel -
   is usually informative.

   He has made several really boring games fairly interesting.  I think he
   really KNOWS football.  Better, I think, than any other annoucer I
   can think of.

        Dan
From: drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Speaking of tight ends...
Date: 5 Sep 92 19:46:11 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <Bu0x8w.KJy@acsu.buffalo.edu> v120qldp@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (PATRICK FERREL) writes:
>One of the main jobs of the Field Judge is to watch the tight end.  I wonder
>what he does during a game between Houston and Atlanta.  =)

Go up into the stands and have a couple of cold ones.  :-)
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From: ch44+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Glenn Huegle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Review of Steeler win over Jets
Date: 14 Sep 92 04:28:43 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



>Foster......broke Franco Harris' single-game Steeler 
>rushing record. (Foster had something like 190 yds.)

Actually, the record was something like 215 yards.  Fosters performance
was third.  Harris had a game of 179 yards in 77 which the announcers 
were comparing Foster's game to since it was the last extremely large 
rushing attempt in Steelers' history.

Oh, reguarding an earlier post, Nagle was intercepted 1 and O'Brien 
was intercepted 2 or 3 times.   I only remeber Griffin and 2xJohnson.

As far as the game goes, the Steelers completely dominated it.  The Jets
had no offense what so ever.   The only two times they scored were on 
two turn overs, one a field goal from the spot of a fumble and the other a
77 yard interception return that bounced off Hoge's chest.  The secondary
was extremely impressive.  Woodson caused a fumble on a sack and blocked
a field goal.  Griffin took the team lead in int's with his 3rd and D.J.
Johnson, in his first game back picked off two.  

Who do the Steelers play after Green Bay?  4-0 sounds great...but 5-0 sounds
much better :)

			Chris
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From: 99siraj@cua.edu (GO! SKINS KILL THE cowboys)
Subject: --Redskins Prediction--
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:31:56 GMT

	I am a die hard Redskins fan.  But after watching the game on
Monday night and response of the players about the game in the news
I don't think they will even make it to the playoffs.  

My prediction 9-7.

	 Well, what do YOU think ?

Have a good one.

SKINS STILL THE SUPERBOWL CHAMPION.

joy
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From: stesan@auto-trol.com (Stephen Sanford, Jr.)
Subject: Re: Last Superbowl at Pasadena?
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:14:26 GMT

>Help wanted with this question:
>
>Who won the last Superbowl to be played at Pasedena?

The New York Giants beat the Denver Broncos, in (I think) Super Bowl XXI.
(that is, Denver Super Blowout II).

-- 
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  Steve Sanford, Jr. (stesan@auto-trol.com)
 I work at Auto-trol Technology Corporation,
     but my boss is a Jewish carpenter
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:55:26 GMT
Subject: Re: Ronnie Lott
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

Lott is still a Raider.  He recovered a fumble sunday.

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From: ckoontz@RDXSUN40.AUD.ALCATEL.COM (Carl H. Koontz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bengals uniforms
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:35:38 GMT

I noticed the Bengals were wearing white jerseys at home against the
Raiders on Sunday.  I am pretty positive they have always worn their
black jerseys at Riverfront in the past.

Does anybody know why the Cincinnati Bengals have started wearing
white jerseys at Riverfront?  Is this a Dave Shula original?

Thanks,
Carl
From: v079l2xj@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I WANT A WINNEBAGO)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Battle Of The Titans!
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:38:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <6743@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com>, roat@rrc.chevron.com writes...
>In article 6815@morrow.stanford.edu, GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes:
>                                                                   
> 
>And NO PUNTS!!!  When was the last time this happened?  Anybody know?

Yeah, I do.  It never has happened before. It's a new NFL record!
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Jim Burt
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:08:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Jim Burt earned his first Super Bowl ring un 1986. After the 49-3 blowout
of the 49ers during which Burt introduced himself to Montana, the Giants
wen't on to win the Super Bowl beating Denever 39-20 (and starting Denver
off on their way to earn a page in the history books ... along with the
Vikings of the 1970s).

satish nair

Go GIANTS (and take Ray Handley with you).

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From: twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf)
Subject: Re: Does no Instant Replay mean no Announcer Review?
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:43:33 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: usa

In article <BuMGpz.J42@acsu.buffalo.edu> hchiu@acsu.buffalo.edu (hung-chang chiu) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.221746.18095@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>*
>*Young to John Taylor, 54 yd TD reception.  Taylor breaks
>*Jones tackle!! Awesome running!  Conversion good!
> 
>In article <1992Sep15.090150.28431@okstate.edu> cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA) writes:
>
>*When I saw this touchdown the first thing I thought was, "that
>*was no touchdown, he fumbled that ball across the endzone."
>
>
>In the late night sports show, channel 2 did show this play from another
>angle. John Taylor did fumble the ball across the endzone. As you said, it
>didn't really matter in this case. But the network should at least show the
>replay to let the viewers know what happened(especially in the TD situation).
>I don't believe the time between plays is an issue in this case.
>

Nope, though it does seem to balance out. As I was listening to the radio,
the announcers stated that Metezelars fumbled and was down before he crossed
the goal line on one of his long receptions. They mentioned that in yesterday's
USA Today. 

The point? Most of these bad calls seem to balance out. Though I do believe
scoring plays get the benefit of the doubt. So it was 34-31, instead of
27-24. 49ers still lost, still don't have Haley and need help on defense.
Here's hoping for a rematch!


Tom Wolf
From: v118jxyk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Live Fast, Die Young!)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL TEAM STAT PROJECT
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I could do the stats for every team, especially since every stat that
you mentioned is listed in the USA Today monday and tuesday section.  So, why
waste time posting up the results, when people could just go out and buy a
newspaper.
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From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Subject: Re: Smith is NOT Sanders
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 23:08:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.220408.16299@leland.Stanford.EDU>, paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische) writes:
|> I think the header said it all.
|> Smith is the second best runner in the NFC now.  He is not Barry Sanders.
|> Smith can't carry tacklers the way Sanders can.  And although Smith
|> outgained Sanders last year, it took Sanders being rested on the final
|> weekend for him to win the title.  And it took him many more carries to do
|> it.  Sanders is the feature back in a pass-oriented offense.  Smith is the
|> lone back in a balanced attack.
|> He's a great player, but don't try to say he's better than Sanders.
|> Jason Gische

   There's no perfect way to determine who's the best RB.  They play against
different opponents, in different schemes, with different styles, and with
offensive teams that emphasize different aspects.  Their surrounding casts
are different.  So don't tell me Emmitt is second best, because it cannot
be proven that anyone is better.  Besides, the gist of the post was not
who was best, but that they had different styles and shouldn't be compared.



P.S.  BSanders is great, Emmitt is great, TThomas is great...I don't care
      what any general consesus is...
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From: hanke@CS.ColoState.EDU (brandon laine hanke)
Subject: Bronco's Kickers was (Re: news???)
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 18:36:38 GMT
Distribution: World
Organization: Colorado State University

In article <1992Sep3.235451.17631@news.vanderbilt.edu> LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu () writes:
>The Broncos have claimed Daluiso off waivers, I see :(
>Is he just going to do kickoffs, or is Treadwell out of a job?

The statement from Dan Reeves is that Daluiso will only do kickoffs, and
if there is a long field goal at the end of the first half or the game that
is out of Treadwell's range then Daluiso will kick those.  Reeves also stated
that having two kickers is a luxuary and it better pay off or there will be 
a change.  If there is a change I expect to see Daluiso leaveing because
he has had trouble with accuracy and Reeves feels comfortable with Treadwell's
accuracy.  The only trouble Reeves has with Treadwell is that his kickoffs 
aren't deep enough.  Hence the signing of Daluiso.


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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Bills
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:58:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.022145.16225@math.ucla.edu> rfedkiw@olympic.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) writes:
>In Article 27813, John P. Gloria writes ...
>>...
>>Buffalo: 27
>>Rams:    35
>>...
>
>
>Sounds pretty stupid to me.
>
>--
In case no one had a CLUE, I was simply being sarcastic.
BTW, why is it that certain people are so quick to start
calling names.  Another BTW, there is no such thing as
a sure thing in sports or in life for that matter.

GO NINER's....
Q


-- 
        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
 		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: 50zhouh@cua.edu
Subject: MNF announcers
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:20:31 GMT

Last week I posted one sentence saying I hate these MNF announcers.
This time I am saying it again!

Just give you an example of their comments on the last two minutes of
Miami vs Cleveland game:

The time: 1:31 minute left in the fourth quarter.
The score: Miami leads by 3 points.
Time out left: Miami 3, Cleveland 1.
The situation: Cleveland at Miami's two yard line, first and goal.
               Don Shula took a time out.

From there on, I almost heard nothing but them saying how great Shula
was by taking the time out, and no other coach in the league would
have done that in that situation.

Give me a break!  It appeared obvious to everybody.  Miami had 3 time
outs left.  In any event (whether Cleveland scored or not), they should
take a time out right away.  Do I need to explain?

Bo
From: cpcheney@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER PAT CHENEY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cofer...
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:47:04 GMT
Reply-To: cpcheney@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER PAT CHENEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: cpcheney@c00807-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu


Well since Cofer is a graduate of NCSU where I am currently enrolled and since
he kicked many a game winners(including a 52 yd ) I was all behind him even 
after his poor year last season. However as shown on Sunday, he seems to have  
lost his "touch". I know jumping on the kicker is easy,especially sitting at
home but now that the 49ers seem to be back as a  super-bowl contenter they 
cannot afford to blow games like that one. It was a great game, against a good
team and the many turnovers didn't help at all,but missing two makeable field
goals that cost your team a win is unacceptable.. Time for S.F. to find another
kicker....


					Chris
				(with fire-hydrant ready)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: bradletm@ntmtv.UUCP (Tim Bradley)
Subject: Re: Henry Ellard Question?
Originator: bradletm@rastaban
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:29:10 GMT

From article <1992Sep15.183535.4610@mlb.semi.harris.com>, by gonzo@mlb.semi.harris.com (John Goelz):
> Hey Rams fans, what happened to Ellard. How could he only have 2 catches
> for the year. Is he hurt or is the offense that bad?

The offense is that bad.

> 
> -john
> 

  - tim
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From: rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: 49ers fans
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 17:43:59 GMT

Well some 49ers fans are off the deep end once again.
How can you post an easy schedule, and claim it's hard??
How can your team not make the playoffs, and you claim 
    greatness?? 
Maybe when S.F. misses the playoffs ten years in a row,
you'll realize the reign is over. 
How can you call losing Lott a suprise, if he was left unprotected?
Get off the drugs!

They beat a dead Giants team, BIG DEAL.
BIG DEAL.

I suppose if they finished 1-15 and won the last game, you would
say they were the best team at the end of the season. 
Who cares?

As for which team is better Buffalo or San Fran, well, let's just 
wait until post season to compare .... if S.F. makes it.

--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
From: m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov (Wayne C. Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NY JETS Scorers
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:05:00 GMT
Organization: Federal Reserve Board
In-reply-to: daryl@dman.b24a.ingr.com's message of 14 Sep 92 02:48:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.024828.18532@infonode.ingr.com> daryl@dman.b24a.ingr.com (Daryl Owens) writes:
Path: fed!uunet!uunet!infonode!dman!daryl
   From: daryl@dman.b24a.ingr.com (Daryl Owens)
   Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
   Date: 14 Sep 92 02:48:28 GMT
   Sender: daryl@dman (Daryl Owens)
   Organization: Intergraph Corporation
   Lines: 6

   If someone could post just briefly who scored for the Jets.  In
   particular, Baxter (RB) and Moore (WR).  

      Yes, this is an FFL question.

   Daryl Owens

Neither.  Brim scored on an int.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: smerinofw01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Scores Please!?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:05:39 GMT

Could someone send me all the final scores. Also any information on
the eagles game.
John
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