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From: rohrernl@helix.nih.gov (Nathan Rohrer)
Subject: Re: Rascals blooper - SPOILER
Organization: National Eye Institute, National Institutes of Health
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:04:29 GMT

In article <41800009@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> brian@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Wood) writes:

>Tim Reed writes:
>>My daughter caught this while watching the program last night.
>>When Picard talks to his 'dad' (Riker), he says he wants to be able
>>to play games on the computer in 'schoolroom 8'. Riker manages to
>>free the computer. When Picard views the screen, if you look in the
>>upper left hand corner, it says 'classroom 7'. Is this an OOPS?

>The obvious answer is that Picard was using '1-based' arithmetic when
>he spoke to Riker, but the computer displayed the classroom number as
>zero-based.  No problemo.

>Brian

Actually each "schoolroom" has several classrooms in it :).


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From: g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL)
Subject: Is there any truth to the rumour.....?
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:59:06 GMT

One of our national papers, "The Sunday Times" printed an article on Star 
Trek VII.  According to them, Hollywood has announced the making of a 7th 
film, but without William Shatner or Leonard Nimoy, as they are getting "too 
old".  The article didn't specify whether it would feature any of the other 
TOS crew (ie. Sulu, etc) or whether it would involve TNG crew.  They did, 
however, say that the script would be written by Bill Shatner.

IF this is true (big "if"), then surely there would have been something 
said about it in the USA, and hence reported over on this directory.  That's 
the first thing that makes me suspicious.  Unfortunately that's also the 
last thing (hence the only reason I'm suspicious).

If anyone has any more info to show it to be false, which I think it is, 
then please reply.  Thanks.

All the best,
Ryan.
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From: bkuhn@cs.loyola.edu (Bradley " b " Kuhn)
Subject: (??Still Spoilers??) Fav. part of Rascals
Organization: Loyola College in Maryland
Distribution: rec
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:34:58

I am not sure if this would still be a spoiler or not.......






















I think that the best part of "Rascals" was seeing Jean-Luc Picard hug
William Riker.  Obviously, Picard must have been pretty uncomfortable 
hugging Will and calling him "Dad."  I suppose that was the attraction
of the whole episode, Jean-Luc being a child when he has trouble himself
dealing with children.  Anyway, Just my $0.02.

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From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Keiko/Rosiland Chao trivia ?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 09:04:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <7528@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> stuartc@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM
(Stuart Corcoran) writes:
>She also had the lead role in "Five Pieces of Gold".

Actually it's called "A Thousand Pieces of Gold."  She's worth more than
five. :-)  Maybe you were confusing the title with "Five Easy Pieces."

>                                                      Interesting
>historical story about overcoming hardship.  Nothing major, just
>being sold into slavery by your father (so he can feed the rest of
>his family), being shipped to 19th San Franscisco, and being bought
>again and transported to an Oregon mining camp to be the 
>(income generating) property of the camp boss.
>
>Good movie if you like historical films with an actual story and
>aren't dissapointed by a lack of gratuitous sex and violence.  Worth renting.

Actually I was disappointed.  It was on one of the local PBS stations
during election night and I kept switching back to it hoping to see
some gratuitous sex.  Saw a few tease shots but nothing to recommend.
She does have a peasant sexiness to her, though, trapsing through the
mud carrying a couple of buckets over her shoulders.  Her favorite line
seemed to be "No whore!" everytime a man came near her.  There was one
light bondage scene where she had her wrists tied to a table while men
bid for her.
From: Omega.Man@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Omega Man)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: SEXISM & TROI'S ASS
Date: 3 Nov 92 23:46:14 GMT

...personal observation from the obnoxious old man of ras*:

Had a woman made the first comment in this flame fest about how Marina's 
style of clothing on TNG made her look overweight in the rear end(s), then
nobody would have said one thing about the comment being "sexist".

In other words, it's quite allright for a female to make commentaries on such
a situation - regardless of whether or not there really is a sexist intent - 
and do so with impunity. If a male makes such a comment - whether it be for
a sexist reason or not - the male is automatically in the wrong and is slated
for castration.

...there are three morals to this story:

1) Feminists do not subscribe to IDIC.

2) Everyone missed the moral of "Charlie X"

3) Equality is one thing, reverse discrimination is another.

...crosspost THIS to soc.women, soc.militant.fems, soc.dykes, soc.it.to.me,
whatever you see fit to do. The fact remains is that most of the complaints
I've heard so far about the initial comment are from people who are double-
standarded as hell.

                                                        OM
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From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
Subject: Re: ---< Fistful o' Datas >--- Synopis & *S*
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:30:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.083038.11100@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
>hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz) writes:
>: In article <1992Nov10.073856.11079@uoft02.utoledo.edu> mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
>: >I'd reckon there be spoilers here,....sir

>: 
>: >
>: >
>: >Troi and Worf discuss the plans for the shutout, when Annie returns with
>: >parts that Worf requested.  Within 1.5 hrs, Worf creates, from a
>: >communicator, a very temporary shield that should block one bullet from
>: >Mr. Hollander, but only one.  They leave for the shoot out.
>: >
>: .
>: .
>: .
>: 
>: >The streets are mighty empty as the son and Worf get to their predefined spot.
>: >Mr. Hollander enters, with Alex, and stares intently.  Worf releases the
>: >son, Hollander Alex, but in mid-path, Hollander draws and yells at his son
>: >to duck.  Worf quickly activates his shield which reflects the 6 shots from
>:                                                                 ^^^^^^
>: 
>: THis makes its own comment on the quality of the writing and the
>: editing.
>
>Hey, give me a break....I write this AS I WATCH THE SHOW, and I usually
>forget to proofread my work.  Also, I have to second guess myself sometimes
>( I though the shield might actually block one shot...who knew ).  

My apologies if you thought I was flaming you, I had just seen the
incident in Rascals where Picard tells Riker to activate the
computer in Schoolroom 8 and then goes to Schoolroom 7.  I thought
it was another glitch in the show.

>Remember, Im not doing this so that I knock Tim's out o the picture, this is
>only a service for the few that would like to know what the heck is going
>on  in the episode.  And, no , I dont have a VCR either, so I really cant
>double check all the plot elements. :)
>: 
>: BTW, was calling Troi "Trio" deliberate (for a grin) or just a typo?
>: 
>Yep, just a mistake.  I DO know how to spell Troi (see! its T-R-O-I-.....ummm.
>....E?)
>

OK Mr. Vice President, I just wanted to make sure you weren't
getting into the religion on Startrek thread.  I usually spell
"the" as "teh" and I'm lucky I don't spell her name as "Trip" or
"Triu".

>
>-- 
>Michael Neylon   aka Masem the Great and Almighty Thermodynamics GOD!

Hillel Markowitz        H_Markowitz@att.com
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From: umoster0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Sean K. Ostermann)
Subject: Re: RASCALS (with a spoiler or 2)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:40:42 GMT

In <BxFsE8.BB1@unccsun.uncc.edu> jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard) writes:

>*  Why couldn't picard regain controll of the computer himself??
	Doesn't the computer do a voice print match.  Not only does he
need the code but his voice that the computer registered when he took
command of the Enterprise must have matched.  Plus, When Riker locked out
all command functions, even the Captian couldn't get it back.

>*  the children were *PERFECT* for their parts.  mark one up for the casting dept.
	Perfect for sure...although the one who played Picard was annoying
at first (great scene when he threw a tantrum).  I also liked the part
when Picard was checking himself out in the mirror.  Must have been
saying...God where did all that hair go?

>*  Why wasn't riker taken to the planet??  why weren't the kids taken to the
>   planet??  surely there could have been _some_ use for the kids in that
>   operation...
	Give the Ferengi some credit (Riker said he was in command and
they figured it out that he was the one who could override the command
lockout)

Sean

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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Re: Rascals and Picard's Heart
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 08:50:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.232729.17286@husc3.harvard.edu> silvers3@husc11.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith) writes:
>Wait a minute.
>
>It's already well-established that Picard has an artificial heart (ie,
>"Samaritan Snare." I don't care what the technobabble explanation for the
>crew getting younger is; if it's an artificial heart (ie, not organic) it
>could not have its RNA/RVN vanish to make it younger! Yes, its YATI time -
>if logic was applicable to this episode, Picard should be dead (or at
>least writhing on the floor of heart failure as it is now too large for his
>body cavity and has displaced several vital organs)...
>


This is a lame excuse for it, but the only thing I can think of is that perhaps
the computer completely didn't read in the heart, and gave him a healthy one
instead, according to his RVN patterns -- his heart must have been okay
when he was younger.  And anyway, didn't the computer give him his hair back?

So it's a stupid excuse.  It was a stupid premise.

Firestar


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I don't bite, you know.    | Find me and turn thy | It is better to have loved 
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From: 00mddwyer@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: DSP Crew gifs at FTP...
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:10:45 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

Does anyone know an ftp site where I can get a gif of the crew of DS9???
Any help would be greatly apreceated!!
Mike Dwyer
BSU  Muncie, IN
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From: Ira_J._Seskin@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:02:11 EST
Subject: Needs of the Many...

Hay out there. My mind is failing me. Which Movie was it , and what was the
name of the "test" ship simulation that the quote " the needs of the many
outway the needs of the few or the one..." came from. It was a Starfleet 
Academy simulation program. Morro something? I't been bothering me all night!
 
Thanks...
 
-Ira-

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From: thogek@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas G. Kiefer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: STVII: Kill Kirk !
Date: 13 Nov 1992 21:04:42 GMT
Organization: Nope, just me.
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In article <BxK5Ju.2x2@cosy.sbg.ac.at> bjelli@cosy.sbg.ac.at (B. Jellinek) writes:
>the subject says it all:
>
>i feel that kirk character has failed to grow old with dignity. since
>STIII i can only pity him. just think of the beginning of STV, where
>he tries to climb that rock. it's really just sad.
>
>so my proposal is: kill him off. Let him die like a hero.
>make it better than Ripley in Alien 3. better than T2. better than Kahn.
>Then let Spock speak at the burial. 

McCoy, too!  He's gotta be there to pronounce: "You're dead, Jim."

:^>
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From: jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Gasaway)
Subject: Re: Worf, the Klingon Punching Bag...
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: NCSA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:27:57 GMT

In article <BxIAor.79x@cmptrc.lonestar.org>, brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad
Barton) wrote:

> To my mind of thinking the only two physical fights Worf has won are when
> he kills Duras and (spoiler)
> 
> 
FISTFUL OF DATAS **SPOILER**







> 
> 
> 
> 
> when he defeats the Anti-Data on the holodeck in Fistful of Datas.
> 
> 
> He also won he battle for his family honor, eventually, but that wasn't
> physical.  And an argument could be made that he cheated against Data, but
> he survived, didn't he?


He also beats up a security guard in the 5th season episode where Riker and
the  androgynous "female" fall in love.

He knocked out the mind reader/rapist with one blow (also 5th season?).

I may be able to think of some more wimpy advisaries Worf has managed to
defeat, but I have to go now.

James 
jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Univ of Illinois @ Urbana/Champaign
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From: kelsey@redwing.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Mike Kelsey)
Subject: Re: TNG Grade Report: "Rescals"
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:06:29 GMT

In article <rawdon.721254321@cs.wisc.edu>, rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
|> Spoilers for the TNG episode "Rascals"...

[ Well, I've deleted them, since I'm merely questioning an inconsistency... ]

|> "Rascals" was a lightweight episode with some entertaining parts, but on the
|> whole it was shoddily constructed and executed, even by TNG standards.
|> You'd think we were still back in the writers' strike-decimated second
|> season!
|> 
|> Grade: C-
          ^^
|> 
|> SEASON SIX AT A GLANCE:
|> Time's Arrow II: B-
|> Realm Of Fear: C
|> Man Of The People: C
|> Relics: B+
|> Schisms: B-
|> True Q: D-
|> Rascals: D+
            ^^ wow, that was a quick revision :-)
|> ---
|> Total Points: 14 2/3
|> Season Average: 2.095 (C)
                   ^^^^^^^^^ this is based on your D+, not C-, right?

|> (Fall of 0.127 from last episode)
|> 
|> -- 
|> Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
|> University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI
|> 

Which of the two grades is destined to become your _official_ result?
						-- Mike Kelsey
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near the Tannhauser Gate.  All these memories will be lost in time, like
tears in the rain."  -- Roy Batty
From: honeydew@infopls.chi.il.us (David Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: 1st Annual Data's Poetry Contest
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 19:40:56 CST
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL


> Susan_Schnitger@amicol.UUCP (Susan Schnitger) writes:
> >We could have several "divisions", one for each type of poem Data was
> >supposed to have delivered, and judge them on lack of emotion, rabid
> >attention to meter and rhyme, and general awfulness.
> >  
> >Anyone game?
> 
> We could at least have a contest in transcribing them accurately from the tub
> -- that can be an art in itself, as I found out with the cat poem in
> "Schisms"...
> 
> :     UUCP:{crash, tcnet, petrus, quest}!orbit!pnet51!jseboldt      :
> :                INET:jseboldt@pnet51.orb.mn.org                    :      
> :        -<:o)          ESCHEW OBFUSCATION               -<:o)      :

Actually, I copied down the whole thing and have been annoying my friends 
withboth poems ever since. ("And though you are not sentient,_____, and 
do not compehend,/I nonetheless consider you a true and valued friend.")  
We were also studying poetry in English, but I resisted temptation :-)!!  
I could post the poem-and-a-half if anyone's interested (I doubt it!)

--
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From: cea1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Carolyn E. Adams-Price)
Subject: Re: Trekkies get a life
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:06:58 GMT

In reponse to the woman who suggested we Trekkies get a life,
let me just say that it is a relief to talk about Trek
for awhile now that the political season is over!!!!!

An obsession with Trek is a whole lot better for the
blood pressure than an obsession with politics.  Even the
flames are more fun than yelling at someone about
abortion rights or government regulations or civil 
liberties, etc.  

You make fewer enemies talking about Trek than about politics
(and my guy even won!)  My husband also prefers my Star Trek
posts to post I might make on other newsgroups (such as
Alt.personals or Alt.sex).  

So what's your problem?

Carolyn Adams-Price
Department of Psychology
Mississippi State


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From: techy@iastate.edu (Technobabblonian)
Subject: First Duty Unis
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:19:10 GMT

I was wondering if anybody has found any of the cadet uniform patterns as
seen in First Duty.  Personally, I prefer these uniforms to the regular duty
uniform.  If not... has anybody modified the existing TNG patterns to
make one as in FD?  Would it be easy to do?  Im not an expert tailor. ;D

-Troy 

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Project Vincent     |a black highway at night.  We were in uncharted
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From: roholdr@ccu.umanitoba.ca (R Ross Holder Jr)
Subject: Re: Cloaking devices (Spoilers) Rascals
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:42:33 GMT

SEMI-MAJOR SPOILERS AHEAD!!!!

Anyway, I wasn't too impressed, either, with the Enterprise being blown apart
quite so quickly in Rascals.  Presumably it was because the shields were
lowered, but what, in the name of Montgomery Scott, is an exploration cruiser
otherwise armed to the teeth doing getting blown apart at the seems in less
than 30 seconds of combat?
For what it's worth (not much) this fan would enjoy Star Trek a great deal
more with more prolonged fight-scenes - particularly that of the
capital ship variety.  Let's dispense with the weenie fight scenes...give
me phasers, torpedoes and the occasional genesis device wouldn't be bad!
-- 
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From: wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez)   
Subject: ***Spoiler Commentary*** on "Rascals"
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 20:04:57 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: wombat@coke.eng.umd.edu

I don't have much to say, as most of it has already been said.

***Spoilers***



I told myself I'd be satisfied if "Rascals" was anything better than
awful.  So I guess I'm satisfied, *barely*.                



A few Random Comments:

- The child actors, except for the actress who played young Keiko, were
all very good, and the actor who played young Picard is about as fine
as they get at that age.

- The episode has two main problems, and they're big ones.

1) We're supposed to suspend our disbelief to *enourmous* measures and
   believe that the ship could be taken that easily and that Worf could
   be taken *out* that easily.  Come on.  I could have defended the ship
   better with a slingshot and a rather large rock.

2) The writers expect us to take the characters dillemas seriously, when
   even Picard can't take himself seriously.  We can't either.  If they
   had just played it for humor the whole episode, it *might* have worked.
   The scene with Picard pretending to be Riker's son was hilarious.  But
   unfortunately, the rest doesn't fly.  

That's about it.  My little brother (11) enjoyed the episode, so maybe
it did something right.

Grade: 5.5  (Half a point for my brother (-:)   

Next Week, or rather This Week:


Having seen it, I predict it will be *alot* of fun. (: I'll post a review later
this week. 
-- 
Jose Gonzalez