From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: A few quotes from a few years ago
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Date: 10 Sep 92 23:47:21 PST
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In article <1992Sep8.175217.4585@dbsun.uucp> hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey) writes:
> In article <mykes.0dc8@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG>
>    mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
> >My $.02:  If you choose to teach ANY subject matter that is widely
> >unaccepted, the PARENTs should get involved and demand you be fired
> >(or whatever).  The PARENTs should mandate what gets tought, with the
> >govt. making MINIMAL educational requirements - like civics, PE, etc.
>
> The parents should mandate, to a point.  Once again, if a large group
> of Muslims should move into your school district, do you want them
> mandating required courses in Islamic history?  Do you want passages
> from the Koran posted on the school walls, because they have mandated
> this?  Do you want "voluntary" prayers to Mecca led by the teacher?
>

Listen well.  I have ZERO problems with my local public school teaching
courses in ANY of the above.  Voluntary prayers?  No problem, in my book.
However, there IS such a thing as electives for these kinds of things.
At my high school, I took a course that taught the New Testament as
literature.  The school was non-sectarian.  I am Jewish.  My teacher
was the best teacher for english/literature I ever had.  And he was
an ordained minister.  And he left the school during my senior year
and went back to the church.  I CHOSE to take that course.  And I do
NOT regret it.  In fact, I feel better rounded as a person for having
taken it and having known the man.

> >Spokesman for the STATE is correct.  Not for the federal government.  There
> >is a major difference, you know.  Where does it say in the constitution that
> >the State of Utah can't promote a religion?  As long as they don't prohibit
> >practice of other religions, there is nothing legally wrong.
>
> The State of Utah, or any other state, may not use federal tax dollars to
> promote a religion.  When the state accepts federal tax dollars for,
> education, they agree to abide by a set of rules.  Because of the
> Constitution, these rules include the prohibition of "respecting the
> establishment of religion".  If the Federal Government didn't pay for
> it, the individual states could do whatever they wanted.
>

The bulk of tax dollars used for education are STATE tax dollars, not federal.
The recent California State budget called for a $Billion in education funding -
that's $3K for every person in the state - and I am not counting just the
children.

> I just do not want to see my tax dollars go to support your religious
> beliefs.
>

My religious beliefs?  I have been in a church about 3 times in the last
10 years - for weddings of friends.  I haven't been in a synagogue in
21 years.  My religious beliefs are irrelevant.

It is a very very very liberal (small L) interpretation that funding a
school that has 5 minutes of prayer per week is promoting any particular
religion.  Get a grip on reality, friend.

And lastly, have you ever watched congress on C-SPAN?  Every morning,
the house of representatives begins its day with a blessing by a minister.
If that's not tax dollars and public land used to promote religion...
And they do it on TV.

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> hulsey%dbsun.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Jim Hulsey)   TBDBITL '84 ('85 Rose Bowl)
> An Ohioan living in Misery (Missouri, same difference)
>
> Watch what you say!                Won't you sign up your name
> They'll be calling you a radical   So you can be their dependable
> A liberal, fanatical criminal      Respectable, presentable vegetable
> --  Supertramp "The Logical Song"

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