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From: ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Diablo...
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:40:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: memstvx1.1992Apr10.124030.1826
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Apr7.055020.3435@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, Cynthia Dawood <sl298028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
> 
> 	I want to go to Kelantan.... I want to see the one and only one Diablo
> in SEA........ 
> 
> P/S: Funny.. I have been in US for a couple of years - and haven't seen a single
>      Lamborghini...... well, maybe I sould open my eyes wider next time....
> 
	Drop by Taman Tun Dr. Ismail some time. I believe that the "MORE" has
one.... Also Ferraris and etc... drool drool.....

-Tai
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif)
Subject: Re: A paradox?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 18:05:44 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.194112.15600@news.iastate.edu> tabk2@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.202638.18875@athena.mit.edu>, zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>
>>	Of course not.  Only a demented person would adhere to the
>>Hitler's causes...
>
>
>Then why did you use him as an example? 

	Why not?

>Perhaps you do look towards him as a personal hero, eh? 

	That is my prerogative. But to ease your mind, let me just
state one more time that "Hitler is not a hero of mine".  Satisfied?

>Please, cut it out, you goofed. you used a wrong/poor example,
>now you're in a hole, and you can't get out. 

	I would use a good analogy on an idiot.  Such a waste of time.

===------ 
NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
promised to take our land and they took it.
                                                        Red Cloud
From: gt6737b@prism.gatech.EDU (JAAFAR,EMERIZAL AHMAD)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: To create a better Malaysia II
Keywords: to love, understand, and appreciate
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:01:57 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

After knowing the country at your best ability, understanding its' systems
and how things function(esp the g'ment agencies), appreciate the coexistance
of other races as well as yours; if you still see a lot of flaws(as many 
people do), then only you may voice you opinion and most importantly offer a
solution to the problem.  Only when you love the country and really want to
see that one day malaysia become a member of G-7 gives you a valid ground to
voice you opinion about malaysia.  Because then, you would act out of sincerity
not out of sheer disgust!

Those of you who already migrated to another country due to the hardships that
you had endured while in malaysia, please think wisely.  The problem is not
yours any longer.  Let the people who are really sincere and committed to
Malaysia do all the talking.  Those who left behind are those who are
willing to work for the best to solve the problem not running away from it
(I sense that this is not a fair statement...I'm not accusing some of you
who did migrated as being a coward or anything .  There might be a lot of
other driving forces that made you decide). 

The next step after love, understanding, and appreciation is to be proud as
a fellow malaysian.  Sure political system sucks and that our politicians are
as rotten as they can be, but if people are educated enough to realize the
situation, I'm sure they(politicians) would not last.  The key thing is
to prepare our kids for a better malaysia.  We want things to get better not
worsen!  Sure we wont see the day but at leat we would die knowing that we've
created a better place for our survivors.

Eme
Hoping for a miracle...
When I go...may God receices me with open arms.

-- 
JAAFAR,EMERIZAL AHMAD
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt6737b
Internet: gt6737b@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: East Timor Communist?????
From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:56:57 +1200
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.

In article <s4hg8INN15v@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST101019@brownvm.brown.edu writes:

>Azlan wrote..

>A : East Timor is one of the strongest communist bases in the region.  The
>East Timorese against an oppresive governent (like you said), but the
>struggle of the Indonesian government to stop another disgusting awakening
>of COMMUNISM.  Even the Australians are afraid of this fact cos' it is near
>to their country.

No need to explain to this chap.  Just as for his references, as
he used to.  Yeah, Azlan show us some references to your claim.
The Indonesians fighting communism in East Timor, what a laugh.

>You really think that the Indonesian government is on some kind of crusade?
>You think they are STRUGGLING?? Against what? Against a couple of
>courageous students armed with flags and independence slogans and
>trying desperately to tell the world what is going on in their land but
>being silenced again and again and again?

It has happened before.  The Indonesian govt, killed many Chinese and
force the rest to forget their culture.  They are doing exactly the
same thing now - GENOCIDE.  I hope the world can start to place 
economic santions against Indonesia and force her to quit East Timor.

The Oppressed will always fight the oppressors.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif)
Subject: Re: A paradox?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:32:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.194626.4635@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.234009.21417@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>
>If Adolf had his way, even you will be wiped out of this Earth, and
>the whites would rule the world.

	Well, Hitler was only interested in Europe.  The Asia
continent was in Japan's sphere of incluence.  If the Axis had won, we
would all be speaking Japanese and you know how much the Japanese hate
the Chinese....

	We are all lucky that Hitler is not a brilliant military
strategist.  A capable military mind would have taken Germany to
victory...

===------ 
NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
promised to take our land and they took it.
                                                        Red Cloud
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Moral and Education (Re: Zam sinks to new depths)
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:21:28 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Apr15.135756.12806@cs.yale.edu>, khoo-siau-cheng@CS.YALE.EDU (Siau Cheng Khoo) writes:

> I always wonder how ones morality has to do with his college
> education. As far as I know, most courses conducted in college does
> not in any way contribute to or reinforce ones moral principles.
> Therefore, it's more likely that ones moral/ethic, and the way/manner
> these are expressed, mainly depends on his environment: the
> environment he lives in and grew up in; and equally important are how
> strong his desires and his belief are. College education only provides
> him a way to survive in the society comfortably, and an opportunity to
> effect his moral principles upon a wider audience. That's why white
> collar crimes are always more damaging than other crimes. Any comment?
> 
	I failed to see why white collar crimes are always more damaging
than other crimes according to what you said.  Can you elaborate ?  I
don't see the logic there.
	I agree with you that morality is shaped mostly by ones environment.
But even though the courses taken in college do not reinforce/contribute
our moral principles, the college ENVIRONMENT does make a lot of
differences in our attidues. 


Jack Teh



> This is what higher education has taught him -- the ability and the
> skill to play politics. Give an apology so as to win over some readers
> through sympathy. Play the emotion, not the issue. This happens so
> often in the US Presidential Campaign this year. What a pity.
> 
> -- Siau Cheng Khoo
> 
> 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: aq668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Candy Lee)
Subject: Re: Important:PLEASE read.
Reply-To: aq668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Candy Lee)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 20:49:38 GMT


In a previous article, gewong@mtholyoke.edu (= G e r m a i n =) says:


>>>Zam is the only one who is providing most of the "entertainment" in this net.
>>>Let face it, you will think species like that will be spending its time
>>>rolling in the mud with other swine instead of attending MIT. (I wonder
>>>should the admission officer be sued for neglience ?)
>>
>>	This poor, snivelling geek, yammering out his
>>brain-damage-induced hatred for five lines, absolutely convinced that
>>his words were so important that everyone (anyone) would read them --
>>what a pathetic sight.  We've gone well beyond the "get a life" stage
>>here.  It's time for euthanasia.
>>
>>	Get lost, you geeky chink
>>			    ^^^^^
>
>
>Hey, wait a sec guys and gals, isn't this the same guy that 
>said, "I only tell racist pigs to goto hell, not nice people" ??
>                   ^^^^^^^^^^^
>(Someone please correct me if I'm wrong - I think it was a posting
>from last week).
>
>Hmmm.... if I remember that correctly, then I'M CONFUSED!!
>
>Alamak... I must be an IDIOT too since I am Chinese.  *sigh*


No..no..Germain....tis not your fault. I fault Zam's mom for hitting
him with a rotten "tofu" when he was young...err...or was it an
ugly "wok"??? 


Candy "Mystery why Zam hates Chinese solved" Lee
--
From: saustin@bbn.com (Ling Khong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: The privileges of the Sultans
Date: 9 Apr 1992 21:05:15 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

While we are talking about the privileges of being a Sultan,
does anyone remember the controversy over one of
our previous Agongs)? Well, it seems that when this ex-
Agong was still a Crown Prince in the sixties, he shot someone dead. The
judge who convicted him was the Raja Azlan Shah (then a Judge but
now our present Agong). However, that Crown Prince then
received a royal pardon from his father, the then Sultan.
Subsequently, his father stripped him of being the Crown Prince
and put his younger brother in his place. However, just prior
to his death, the old Sultan reinstated the his eldest son
(that notorious ex-Crown Prince) and so this son finally
became our Agong. When he was Agong, some of the other Heads
of foreign governments refused to meet with him when they visited.
Anyway, there was also this story going round the Royal Selangor 
Golf Club that when he was Agong, he clubbed one of his caddies to death but
the whole affair was hushed up.

Perhaps someone has the details of the story -- I remember
reading about it in some of the international magazines when
that Sultan finally became our Agong. Some of it later
resurfaced when Sultan Azlan Shah (either the judge or prosecutor
in that case) himself became the Agong subsequently.


Again perhaps the whole thing is just a rumour. It's hard to 
tell in a country like Malaysia where there is limited freedom
of expression and lack of information too. When I was back in 
KL in December, there were all these rumours flying around that
Sudirman was already dead; yet his death was only announced 
last month! 

	Ling
From: aman@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Amril Aman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: East Timor Communist?????
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:19:09 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr17.023614.4734@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC) writes:
>
>
>What I was refering to was the systematic extermination of the
>communists after the failed coup.  

Now, we get the fact that your accusation of GENOCIDE and killing
of chinese people by the government of Indonesia is baseless
and false.   

>
>Thank you for the chance.  I hope future discussions can be done on 
>a mature basis without the need to use vulgar language and racist
>remarks.

I also hope that you (and also everybody) do the homework before
submitting your posting.  Do not talk about something that
you don't know about.  Do some reading first before writing your
posting.  This shows your maturity.  Thank you. 

Amril Aman
aman@ecn.purdue.edu
From: kaw@cse.unl.edu (Kam Aw)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Mohktar, Arunmugam
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:45:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: unlinfo.1992Apr17.194519.10710
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln

saustin@bbn.com (Ling Khong) writes:

>I remember reading about Mokhtar's death a couple of years ago in a car
>accident. But when did Arumugam die? What did he die of?

>Talking about Malaysian footballers -- what has happened to people
>like Santokh Singh, Soh Chin Aun, James Wong, Wong Chee Keong (sp?)
>and people of that batch which ensured Malaysia' entry into the
>Olympics in 1972 (or was it 1976)?

	On the contrary, Arumugam was killed in an car accident.  Mokhtar
had passed away due to his long term illness (cancer?).  I think Soh Chin Aun
went into politic and ran for office in Melaka a few years ago.

Kam Foo Aw
 
--
===================================================================
=   Kam Foo Aw                                                    =
=   kaw@cse.unl.edu                 U of Nebraska - Lincoln       =
===================================================================
From: zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: The Rahman theory and Zam
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:15:58 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <sf0vhINN311@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST101019@brownvm.brown.edu writes:
>
>I just realised something absolutely, totally horrifying.
>
>Remember someone mentioned the RAHMAN theory of determining the PMs of
>Malaysia?
>
>Well, now we are at the M for Mahathir, and the next one will most likely
>be A for Anwar.
>
>Do y'all realise something about the N?
>
>Zam's full name is NorAazizam........
>
>Maybe you Chinese Malaysians there had better start finding a second
>passport???
>
>
>Sometimes you just gotta say.....
>
>DDDDDDDDDDDDD                           HHHHHHH                 ?????????
>D::::::::::::DDD                        H:::::H                ?::::::::::?
>D:::::::::::::::DD                      H:::::H               ?:::??????:::?
>DDD:::::DDDDD:::::D                     H:::::H               ?:::?    ?:::?
>  D:::::D    D:::::D    UUUUUU  UUUUUU   H::::H HHHHH         ??:??    ?:::?
>  D:::::D     D:::::D   U::::U  U::::U   H::::HH:::::HHH       ???    ?:::?
>  D:::::D     D:::::D   U::::U  U::::U   H::::::::::::::HH           ?:::?
>  D:::::D     D:::::D   UU:::U  U::::U   H:::::::HHH::::::H         ?:::?
>  D:::::D     D:::::D    U:::U  U::::U   H::::::H   H::::::H       ?:::?
>  D:::::D     D:::::D    U:::U  U::::U   H:::::H     H:::::H       ?:::?
>  D:::::D     D:::::D    U:::U  U::::U   H:::::H     H:::::H       ??:??
>  D:::::D    D:::::D     U:::U  U::::U   H:::::H     H:::::H        ???
>DDD:::::DDDDD:::::D      U::::UU:::::UU  H:::::H     H:::::H
>D:::::::::::::::DD       U::::::::::::U  H:::::H     H:::::H        ???
>D::::::::::::DDD          UU:::::UU:::U  H:::::H     H:::::H       ??:??
>DDDDDDDDDDDDD               UUUUU  UUUU  HHHHHHH     HHHHHHH        ???


	Please seek some help.  Your paranoia is getting out of control.

===------ 
NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
promised to take our land and they took it.
                                                        Red Cloud
From: amir@bigbird.bu.edu (Amir Samad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: The wonders of SCA
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:15:08 GMT
Organization: Boston University

On what other newsgroup can you find such contrasting articles, for example
beautiful poems like Usman Awang's ``Balada Terbunuhnya Beringin tua'':
> .  .  .
>Tiba-tiba pagi yang hitam itu datang
>gergasi teknologi menyerangnya 
>dengan kejam membenamkan gigi-gigi besi
>sehingga terdengarlah jeritan ngeri
>suara Beringin rebah ke bumi.
> .  .  . 

interspersed with articles such as the following:


>Eat shit you self-appointed wannabe know-nothing ass-licking
>dick-breath  cocksucking net-cop motherfucker...

It truly represents the diversity of culture, from the elegant to the crass.

Amir Samad
Boston University
From: tloh@husc8.harvard.edu (Teck Loh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Zam Again!
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:40:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr16.154021.11175
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr16.034044.2999@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>In article <84080@bu.edu> amir@bigbird.bu.edu (Amir Samad) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr12.171032.11421@athena.mit.edu>, zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>>|> In article <1992Apr10.183351.10937@husc3.harvard.edu> tloh@husc8.harvard.edu (Teck Loh) writes:
>>[deleted]
>>|> 
>>|> >Maybe it is time to take on him and debate on him so that he will not be
>>|> >able to misled others. Luckily, I have many malay friends that are not like
>>|> >him.
>>|> 
>>|> 	We have several of those "Malays" out here too.  They come
>>|> from rich families and only mingle with the Chinese.  Anyone in Boston
>>|> want to take a guess?
>>
>>Yes! Yes! I'm in Boston and I want to take a guess. Hmmm.... let's see....
>>I know most of the Malaysians here... but nobody seems to come to mind.
>>
>>Tell you what, why don't you start by mentioning a few names... you have
>>nothing to lose at this point anyway. I'm really curious to know who these
>>people are.
>
>
>	I am sure you don't know the ones that I am talking about.
>They have never been to any UMNO meetings, and their fathers are some
>of the most influential people in Malaysia.  Let's just leave it at
>that; I am not going to name names.
>
 People who did not attend UMNO meetings are traitors. What type of logic
is this? Maybe, they purposely do not want to atteNd  because they do not
want to associate with people like you. The reason is "you", not because
their fathers are infuential people in Malaysia. 
  This clearly shows us that you cannot accept anybody who has different
thinking from you. The more you try to use dirty tactics to discredit people
who has different views from you, the deeper you fall. Don't behave like
a "god". Try to listen and accept others' opinions even there are different
from yours (just an advice).

T-P Loh

>===------ 
>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>promised to take our land and they took it.
>                                                        Red Cloud
From: sca-news@slic.cellbio.duke.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: M'sia: Mahathir Embraces Suchinda
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:57:01 GMT
Originator: jit@slic.cellbio.duke.edu

Newsgroups:   bit.listserv.seasia-l
Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:27:22 PDT
From: Indonesia Publications/Task Force <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Mahathir Embraces Suchinda
X-To:         seasia-l@msu.edu
To: Multiple recipients of list SEASIA-L <SEASIA-L@MSU>
Status: OR

    Reuter, Kuala Lumpur, April 13 - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir
Mohamad on Monday congratulated Thai military chief General Suchinda
Kraprayoon on his appointment as Thailand's prime minister.
    Mahathir expressed confidence that relations between the two
neighbours would reach greater heights.
    Mahathir said he looked forward to working with Suchinda to expand
bilateral ties and promote peace and prosperity in the region.
    Suchinda was controversially appointed prime minister last week
after the original nomination of Narong Wongwan was withdrawn following
allegations by the U.S. State Department that he was linked with drug
trafficking.
    A leading Malaysian newspaper, the pro-government New Straits Times,
last week slammed the United States for "interfering" in the
appointment.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: hanlin@is.rice.edu (HanLin Goh)
Subject: a thought
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:35:32 GMT

I think if we kept a record of Mr. NorAzizam's outbursts on s.c.a.
for the past few months, he can kiss all hope of a political future
goodbye. I for one would sure hate to see him wielding political
power. After all, didn't he say "let the Malaysian army loose on
the Chinese"? (And that was one of his nicer moments too)  :)
From: v999s3bz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (---roach---)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: NS and Officer Pillay
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:58:00 GMT
Organization: ---Roach Motel---
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

lam's

>Didn't the Cuban missile scare teach us anything?? If the history of the
>Cold War and the practice of detente did not teach us anything then I'm
>sorry to say that while the West has stepped away from nuclear conflict
>SEA has taken a step forward in creating a possibility of involving the
>superpowers in a regional conflict of unknown consequences.
> 
holy s_it, by golly i think he's got it (best idea so far).
i am in total agreement and conflict seems to be not a 
question of possiblility but one of timing.
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: bored beyond belief II
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:06:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Apr16.150642.54537
Organization: Utah State University

In article <ygoh.703413203@sfu.ca>, ygoh@fraser.sfu.ca (Kelvin Goh) writes:
> Let's talk bolasepak !!!! So...anyone knows when the season starts ?
> Hm...I'm glad to know Ngap Sayot is back in division one !!! Watch out
> Johor !!!! Kelantan ???? Start wearing shorts instead of long pants....
> show those sexy legs lah !!!

	I've already tried this a couple of times.  Seems like the readers
of this net either do not have the news about sports back home or do not
give a damm about them.
	I want to know what is happening with Selangor (the LIVERPOOL of
Malaysia, well sort of) ? Are they back to their old form after a 
couples of very bad years ?  I used to have access to New Straits Times
in my previous college, but after moving here, the news about Malaysia
sports has been totally cut off.  The 'latest' news (which is more than
a year old) I know was that Kedah was relegated to second division after
winning the Malaysia cup the previous year !! (sound like what is
may be happening to Spurs now).


Jack Teh
From: zaidin@castor.cs.uga.edu (In real life ???)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: test
Keywords: ujian
Date: 5 Apr 92 18:22:25 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <4745@umriscc.isc.umr.edu> ahussain@next7.cs.umr.edu (Abdul Hussain) writes:
>this is just a test
>Thanks for your patience


Ya...A test for my patience..!!!