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From: PDLBH@CUNYVM.BITNET (Le Duc)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: How to live a bit longer. Well, maybe ...
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:56:16 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <77fC02MX1ekC01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, vqt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
(Married With Children) writes:
>
>How to live a bit longer.  Well, maybe ...
>
>Many dieticians agree that red meat is not good for your heart because
>of its high cholesterol.  They recommend to eat more chicken and turkey
>(w/o skin) because these are low in fat and cholesterol.  I find out that
>eating more chicken and turkey does not mean that I have to sacrify the
>taste.  On the other hand, I find out that I did not know what I was
>missing before !

    Hi MWC, this is my second response to you since your article about
gold fish :-)). I got tired of fighting with others over what you write
:-) ...
    First, you seem to imply that there is a correlation between diet
and living longer. That might be true, yet you can elaborate a little
bit about whether other factors like exercise, having a sense of humor,
and being positive can directly or indirectly affect a person's longevity.
Some medical opinions now say that having a low cholesterol is not good
either: the subject may feel suicidal or depressed due to a lack of
cholesterol.

>You probably try "ba'nh cuo'n nha>n thi.t" so many times already, have
>you ever tried "ban'h cuo'n nha>n ga` " ?  I find it different and very
>delicious !  How about "ba'nh bao thi.t ga`" ?  It's mm mm good !
>After I get all the meat out of the turkey, I use the bone to make pho+?
>turkey.  The soup is really sweet and tasty.  I think this pho+? turkey
>is even better than the traditional pho+? bo`.
>Chicken and turkey can also be used in almost any other Vietnamese dishes.
>Furthermore, chicken and turkey are less expensive than beef and pork.
>Thus, you and your family can save some money to go to ... Las Vegas !!!
>

hehehe ... The only chicken I like to eat is Kentucky fried chicken with
its spicy and crispy taste, so my answer to your question is: Please!
no "ba'nh cuo^'n nha^n ga`", no "ba'nh bao thi.t ga`", and, especially,
no "pho*? turkey" ... :-) Most of us would prefer to keep our traditional
food as is, even though beef and pork may be more expensive than chicken.

In the subject of food, I do like "ba'nh cuo^'n Thanh Tri`" with Cha?
que^'. :-)))


Forgive me for saying this, but sometimes I got the feeling that women
tend to speak more about foods while men prefer gossiping about sex :-)


Dduc Le


>Ms. MWC
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: c9123058@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: testing
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:15:43 GMT

testing

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: quangl@tabasco.sps.mot.com (Quang Le)
Subject: Re:  WARNING 2: 
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: quangl@tabasco.sps.mot.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:25:00 GMT

To whom using alias bho@eis.calstate.edu

You'd better leave my name out of your conversation.
I don't care how many aliases you can use, but I still
know who you are.:-) You can type Vietnamese in Vietnet format
much better what you trying right now. Because you are
using alias and have no serious intention to discuss I have 
nothing to talk with you.

Sincerely (my ususally "Tha^n" can't apply here)
Quang Le

|>... va` Quang Le ddang la`m tre^n usenet hie^.n nay.
From: vibama@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Doan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Unusual message
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:37:19 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh, Scotland

HandSomeStranger !!! Ngu+o+i chu+?i dda~ dda~ chu+a ???
Nhu+ng ma` ngo' bo^. nha` ngu+o+i co^ng lu+.c co`n a^'u tri~ la('m ...
Chu+a ddu? su+'c dde^? thi tho^' tre^n cho^'n giang ho^` dda^u...

Nha` ngu+o+i chi? co' the^? la`m tro` cu+o+`i cho thie^n ha. ma`
tho^i ... Tho^i kho^ng the`m no'i nu+~a ... Ta ddi dda^y ...
Ra'ng chu+?i cho hay hay chu't hi? ....

Ha ha ha ,

DDK
From: lyxuan@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [REQ] LOGGING FILE FOR 7/27/92-8/17/92
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:13:28 GMT
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory

Hello Folks,
 
I have a need to have a copy of this month's logging 
file! Preferably one from July 27th thru August 17th.
I understand Vietanh@mit can help me! Much obliged!
If it is more convenience, can you post it here?
Or you can email directly to me! Please! Time is of
the essence!
  
Regards,
  
Tua^'n Z. Nguye^~n
  
---------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer....
    GUEST ACCOUNT...WITH MINIMUM SUPERVISION.......
---------------------------------------------------
From: gt4030a@prism.gatech.edu (Tu*' Phu*o*ng)
Subject: Re: Va^'n Vu+o+ng
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: gt4030a@prism.gatech.edu
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:33:07 GMT

> > 
> > >> >> > Nga^?n Ngo"
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > Ngo" nga^?n mi`nh ta la.i nga^?n ngo"
> > >> >> > Nu"?a ho^`n nhu" ti?nh nu"?a nhu" mo"
> > >> >> > O^ hay! ca?nh cu~ co`n -da^y -da^'y
> > >> >> > Sao da'ng ngu"o"`i xu"a va^~n mi.t mo"`?!
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> > nguyenv, 
> > >> >> > 
> > >> >> 	Hello..!
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> 	Tho+ tha^?n ro^\i da^y la.i tha^?n tho+
> > >> >> 	Nu+?a ho^\n o+? ddo' nu+?a ddi mo^
> > >> >> 	A ha! Da'ng xu+a gio+\ dda~ ddo^?i
> > >> >> 	Ngu+o+\i dda~ ddi ro^\i nho+' ma\ chi....
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> 	TP
> > >> >> 
> > >> >> 
> > >> 	Helloooooooooo!
> > >> 
> > >> 	Tho+ tha^?n nga^n? ngo+ ro^i` la.i mo+
> > >> 	Mo+ ve^` bo'ng cu? thu+o+? xa lo+
> > >> 	Ngu+o+i` ddi, tim che^t' lo`ng to^i la.nh
> > >> 	Vi` ca? ho^n` to^i dda~ dai. kho*`....
> > >> 
> > >> 	LTBR
> > >> 
> > >
> > >
> > >	Tho+ tha^?n cho+` ngu+o+`i cu+' nhu+ ... kho+` :)
> > >	Nu+?a ho^`n ti?nh ta'o, nu+?a ... lo+` -do+` :)
> > >	Ngu+o+`i xa xo^i -do' sao im la(.ng ??
> > >	Ti`nh ca?m khi xu+a -da~ phai mo+` ??
> > >
> > >	LDPP
> > >
> > 
> >         Nga^~n ngo+, tho+ tha^?n ro^`i tha^?n tho+!
> >         Tho+ tha^?n, ngo+ nga^~n ro^`i nga^~n ngo+!
> >         Bo'ng em ye^u da^'u sao tha^'y mo+` ?
> >         Va^'n vu+o+ng, vu+o+ng va^'n nhi.p ddu+o+`ng to+! 
> > 
> >         lt
> > 
> > 
> 	Nga^?n ngo+ ma\ chi, cha'n qua' ddi
> 	Buo^\n buo^\n, nga'o nga'o, tha^'y li bi\
> 	Ngu+o+\i cu~ ddi ro^\i to^i cu~ng bu+o+'c
> 	O+? ddo' la\m gi\ mong vo+'i u+o+'c
> 
> 	TP
>
From: ttp@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (T.Phan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [Tho+] Anh Hu`ng Vo^ Danh
Keywords: Dda(`ng Phu+o+ng
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:12:22 GMT



ANH HU`NG VO^ DANH
-------------------

Ho. la` ke? khi que^ hu+o+ng chuye^?n ddo^.ng
Du+o+'i go't gia`y cu?a nhu+~ng ke? xa^m la(ng,
Dda~ xo^ng va`o nu'i lu+?a quye^'t lie^`u tha^n
Dde^? ba?o ve^. cho tu+. do to^? quo^'c
Trong chie^'n dda^'u kho^ng na`i muo^n kho' nho.c
Cu+o+`i hie^~m nguy ba^'t cha^'p no^~i gian nan
Ngu+o+`i tha^'t co+ dda`nh thi.t na't xu+o+ng tan
Nhu+ng ke? so^'ng lo`ng son kho^ng bie^'n chuye^?n

..............

Tuy te^n ho. kho^ng ghi trong su+? sa'ch
Tuy ba?ng va`ng bia dda' cha(?ng dde^` te^n
Tuy mo^` hoang sie^u la.c du+o+'i tro+`i que^n
Kho^ng ai dde^'n kha^'n nguye^`n da^ng le^~ va^.t
Nhu+ng ma'u ho. dda~ len va`o ma.ch dda^'t
Thi.t cu`ng xu+o+ng tro^.n la^?n vo+'i non so^ng
va` linh ho^`n chung vo+'i ta^'m ti`nh trung
Dda~ ho`a ho+.p la`m linh ho^`n gio^'ng VIE^.T

                          Dda(`ng Phu+o+ng
From: hai@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Hai Vo-Ba)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 13:43:40 GMT
Subject: Re: [POL]
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese


		     P I C A R D  /  T R O I         ' 9 2

----
Hai  Vo-Ba                              (303)229-3874
ESL  MS55              			hai@hpeshai.fc.hp.com
Hewlett Packard Co.
3404 E. Harmony Rd.
Fort Collins, Colorado 80525-9599
From: Van Tran <0005359961@mcimail.com>
Subject: [THO+] THO+ TRA^`N Y' VA^N
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: 0005359961@mcimail.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:01:17 GMT

This poem was posted yesterday, but I didn't see it on SCV. This 
is a repost. BTW, may be something wrong with MCI mail system. Would
anyone send me a message if you were able to read this poem yesterday?
Thank you.

======================================================================

Tha'ng Ba?y  --  Ha?i Nam


So'ng bie^?n vo^ ti`nh, thuye^`n cu+' tro^i
Cho^ng che^nh. Ta`u cu+'u, ca?m o+n tro+`i!.
Tha'ng ba?y mu+a nhie^`u, tu+`ng co+n la.i#.
Nhu+~ng chie^`u gio^ng to^' so'ng xa kho+i#.

Ge^`nh dda' cheo leo, gio' hu' vang;
Ba~i ca't the^nh thang, nhu+~ng hoa va`ng
Run run trong gio' tuo^`ng e the.n.
Co' ngu+o+`i con ga'i the.n. Ngo+~ nga`ng.

Me^nh mo^ng tro+`i dda^'t mo^'i u sa^`u,
Ru+`ng du+o+ng xanh tha(?m ta^.n no+i dda^u#?
Chie^`u ti'm ha?i a^u nga^n cao gio.ng
Tra('ng nga^`n mo^.t la't, dde^m dden ma`u (*)#.

To^i nho+' nhu+~ng khi ra(`m sa'ng tra(ng,
Tie^'ng ai than tho+? no^~i nhu.c nha(`n
Tra^`m, bo^?ng, du du+o+ng ba`i "Bie^?n Ma(.n",
Be^`nh bo^`ng nhu+ nhu+~ng a'nh ha?i dda(ng.

Ma^'y tha'ng no+i kia tu+.a ma^'y na(m,
Tu+o+ng lai ai bie^'t? Tha^.t xa xa(m.
DDo+`i ddo^?i, a(n xin nga`y hai bu+?a,
Nhu+~ng lu'c tro+`i mu+a o+? nha` na(`m.

A^'y va^.y ho.c the^m nhu+~ng chuye^.n ddo+`i
Tha(ng, tra^`m chi? tu+.a mo^.t cuo^.c cho+i#.
Xua^n dde^'n, ddo^ng ta`n tuy de^? no'i
Khi ma` la^m pha?i mo+'i than tro+`i!

Ha?i Nam tu+` da.o a^'y chia tay
To^i va^~n lang thang nhu+~ng tha'ng nga`y#.
So^ng, nu+o+'c, ba.n be`, ti`nh xu+a a^'y
Nha('c la.i trong lo`ng cho+.t qua('t quay#.
     

                                   Tra^`n Y' Va^n

(*) Hai ca^u na`y mu+o+.n y' tho+ trong mo^.t ba`i cu?a Matsuo
Basho#.


P.S.  And another Paz's poem to share with y'all:

Example

A butterfly flew between the cars.
Marie Jose' said: it must be Chuang Tzu,
on a tour of New York.
                       But the butterfly
dreaming it was Chuang Tzu
                           or Chuang Tzu
dreaming he was a butterfly.
The butterfly never wondered:
                              it flew.

                           (unknown translator -- TYV)

		Ejemplo

		La majiposa volaba entre los autos.
		Marie Jose' me dijo: ha de ser Chuang Tzu,
		de paso por Nueva York.
				        Pero la mariposa
           bo sabi'a que era una mariposa
		que son~aba ser Chuang Tzu
					  o Chuang Tzu
		que son~aba ser una mariposa.
		La mariposa no dudaba:
		  volaba.

                                          *** Octavio Paz ***
From: kien@xuan.sps.mot.com (Kien Banh)
Subject: co+\ tu+o+/ng
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:25:39 GMT

>From: tnguyen@ecr.mu.oz.au (Luu Dan NGUYEN)
>
>Subject: co+` tu+o+'ng
>Message-ID: <9222619.3588@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
>Sender: news@cs.mu.OZ.AU
>Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
>Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:56:42 GMT
>Lines: 48
>
>Cu`ng ta^'t ca? ca'c anh chi. va` ca'c ba.n tre^n SCV .
>
>Ga^`n dda^y co' mo^.t ba.n ddu+a ra y' kie^'n cho+i co+` quo^'c te^' tre^n
>net .  To^i tha^'y cu~ng hay hay ne^n ve~ ra ca'i ba`n co+` tu+o+'ng na`y
>kho^ng ngoa`i mu.c ddi'ch ddu+o+.c cu`ng ai ddo' tre^n SCV cho+i co+` .
>
>Ne^'u co' anh/chi. na`o muo^'n cho+i cu+' vie^.c tham gia tre^n SCV , nhu+
>va^.y se~ ha`o hu+'ng ho+n la` cho+i ba(`\ng email hoa(.c talk ...
>
>DDe^? cho mu.c dda'nh co+` the^m pha^`n ga^y ca^'n , theo y' to^i ba^'t
>cu+' anh chi. na`o tre^n SCV cu~ng co' quye^`n ba`n lua^.n  ve^` cuo^.c
>co+` hai be^n .....
>
>Ba`n co+` sau dda^y kho^ng pha^n bie^.t dden tra('ng , ta du`ng chu+~
>Thu+o+`ng va` chu+~ Hoa dde^? pha^n bie^.t qua^n co+` hai be^n .... To^i
>xin ma.o muo^.i ddi tru+o+'c vi` bie^'t mi`nh co+` tha^'p ma` ham vui ...
>
>Tha^n a'i

Xin ho^\i dda/p ba(\ng C3 t 1

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1     2     3     4     5     6     7     8     9

Be^n Tie^n:                          Be^n Ha^.u:
-tnguyen@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au        -kien@xuan.sps.mot.com
-tnguyen@uluru3.ecr.mu.oz.au

p8 n 5                               M8 t 7
m8 t 7				     C3 t 1

p.s. n = ngang , t = tie^/n , l = lui
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: lyxuan@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: Usual msg. for the maggot(DDK(KHOA))
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:52:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.183719.24685@cs.hw.ac.uk>, vibama@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Doan) writes:

> HandSomeStranger !!! Ngu+o+i chu+?i dda~ dda~ chu+a ???
      ^
      ^                Tao chu+a to+'i gio+` chu+?i dda^u!!!
      ^
      ^^^^^^^ HandsomeStranger....

Ne^'u bie^'t vie^'t thi` vie^'t! Kho^ng bie^'t vie^'t thi` ca^m ddi!
Chi? co' ca'i te^n ma` vie^'t cu?ng kho^ng ddu'ng! thi` co`n muo^'n
la`m mo^'c gi` nu+?a ???

> Nhu+ng ma` ngo' bo^. nha` ngu+o+i co^ng lu+.c co`n a^'u tri~ la('m .

Co' ngon co' gio?i thi` cu+' vie^.c nha`o vo^!! Cha? o+'n tha(`ng ta^y 
na`o dda^u!!! Ke^? ca? con gio`i o+? Edinburgh!!! HeeHeeeHeeee!!!!!!!!

> Chu+a ddu? su+'c dde^? thi tho^' tre^n cho^'n giang ho^` dda^u...

Co' chie^u na`o hay ho thi` cu+' xua^'t ra cho thie^n ha. xem!! Hay
la` tru+o+'c dde^'n gio+` co' bao nhie^u chie^u ma`y dda? xua^'t he^'t 
ro^`i ?!  Muo^'n chi.u thua thi` cu+' vie^.c dda^m dda^`u vo^ ba?i 
pha^n tu+o+i ddi!! La`m chi ma` pha?i dda'nh tro^'ng mo^`m du+? va^.y ?

> 
> Nha` ngu+o+i chi? co' the^? la`m tro` cu+o+`i cho thie^n ha. ma`

Mo^.t co^ng hai chuye^.n ma` ma`y!! Thie^n ha. cu+o+`i thi` tao 
cu?ng cu+o+`i va^.y!!! Chu+' ca'i kie^?u me`o xuo^'ng do^'c nhu+ 
ma(.t ma`y thi` thie^n ha. chu+?i thu'i che^'t ddi cho ddu+o+.c!!

> tho^i ... Tho^i kho^ng the`m no'i nu+~a ... Ta ddi dda^y ...
> Ra'ng chu+?i cho hay hay chu't hi? ....
> 
> Ha ha ha ,

Cu+o+`i cho dda? ddo+`i ddi ma`y!! Cho^'c la't kho'c sau cu?ng
kho^ng muo^.n!! Ma` muo^'n kho'c thi` cu?ng cha? ddu+o+.c phe'p!

> 
> DDK
>  
HandsomeStranger...........

.....Where is the Edinburgh(DDK(Khoa)) maggot?
     Come! You(maggot(DDK(Khoa))) may feast on these fester pools!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: eda803z@mings3.cc.monash.edu.au (D. N. Ngo)
Subject: test
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:45:06 GMT

testing ... pls ignore
thanx

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do)
Subject: Re: Va^'n vu+o+ng
Reply-To: daudo@bcars201.bnr.ca (Dau Do)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:15:42 GMT


In article <1992Aug13.141048.29542@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, jnle@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (Le^ -Di`nh Pha' Pha'ch) writes:
>
>> >> > Nga^?n Ngo"
>> >> 
>> >> > 
>> >> > Ngo" nga^?n mi`nh ta la.i nga^?n ngo"
>> >> > Nu"?a ho^`n nhu" ti?nh nu"?a nhu" mo"
>> >> > O^ hay! ca?nh cu~ co`n -da^y -da^'y
>> >> > Sao da'ng ngu"o"`i xu"a va^~n mi.t mo"`?!
>> >> > 
>> >> > nguyenv, 
>> >> > 
>> >> 	Hello..!
>> >> 
>> >> 	Tho+ tha^?n ro^\i da^y la.i tha^?n tho+
>> >> 	Nu+?a ho^\n o+? ddo' nu+?a ddi mo^
>> >> 	A ha! Da'ng xu+a gio+\ dda~ ddo^?i
>> >> 	Ngu+o+\i dda~ ddi ro^\i nho+' ma\ chi....
>> >> 
>> >> 	TP
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> 	Helloooooooooo!
>> 
>> 	Tho+ tha^?n nga^n? ngo+ ro^i` la.i mo+
>> 	Mo+ ve^` bo'ng cu? thu+o+? xa lo+
>> 	Ngu+o+i` ddi, tim che^t' lo`ng to^i la.nh
>> 	Vi` ca? ho^n` to^i dda~ dai. kho*`....
>> 
>> 	LTBR
>> 
>
>
>	Tho+ tha^?n cho+` ngu+o+`i cu+' nhu+ ... kho+` :)
>	Nu+?a ho^`n ti?nh ta'o, nu+?a ... lo+` -do+` :)
>	Ngu+o+`i xa xo^i -do' sao im la(.ng ??
>	Ti`nh ca?m khi xu+a -da~ phai mo+` ??
>
>	LDPP

    Tho+ tha^?n cho ngu+o+`i la.i tha^~n tho+`
    Nu+a~ ho^`n co`n ti?nh, nu+?a lo+ mo+
    Ngu+o+`i xa xo^i ddo', duye^n dda~ ve.n
    Sao co`n nga^?n ngo+ cho ngu+o+`i kho+`

    Con Ca' Ma^.p
From: Nhan Tran <tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
Subject: NEWS/VN: 4 VN firms opt out of privatisation plan
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:26:41 GMT


08/13

FOUR VIETNAM FIRMS OPT OUT OF PRIVATISATION PLAN

    HANOI, Aug 13, Reuter - Four of the seven state companies that Vietnam
recently assigned for limited privatisation as part of its economic reforms have
asked to be withdrawn from the pilot project, a report in an official newspaper
said.
    The four firms -- the Southern Detergent Factory, the Thong Nhat match
factory, the Hai Hung materials supply company and the Long Binh sawmill -- gave
different reasons for bowing out, Tuoi Tre newspaper from Ho Chi Minh City said
in its August 8 issue, received in Hanoi on Thursday.
    Hanoi announced in June plans to corporatise the seven firms as part of its
free market economic reforms. The seven, identified by the council of ministers,
were to be partially or wholly privatised after modernising their corporate
structure.
    "Vice minister of finance Phan Van Dinh said the ministries governing these
four enterprises had second thoughts about their readiness and qualification for
corporation," Tuoi Tre said.
    The newspaper said the match factory had opted out of the pilot project
because it was busy working on a new joint venture with a foreign company, while
the others wanted to settle some financial or production problems first.
From: ltran@utah (Linh T. Tran x4900)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: [MISC] PUZZLE: ngo^n tu+? (che^'t) ba^'t tu+?
Date: 15 Aug 92 12:19:45 GMT
Reply-To: ltran@dsp.lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

luong@fps.com (Luong Nguyen-Duy) writes:
: In article <1992Aug14.053228.19642@lsil.com> ltran@dsp.lsil.com writes:
: >Nghe qua dde^` ta`i La~o DDam va` DDu+'c DDa.o Kinh, Vo^ Vi. be`n no'i:
: >
: >	To^i xin bo? ddi ma` kho^ng ba`n the^m ve^` chuye^.n na`y .
: >
: >	Vo^ Vi.
: 
: 
: Vo^ Vi. la?o gia,
: 
: Tie^?u dda.o tha^'y nhu+ va^.y la` co`n thie^'u co^ng lu+.c ddo' !!!
: Ne^'u ma` bo? ddi thi` cu+' ddi nhu+ ma^y qua ma(.t ho^` Thu, kho^ng ne^n
: dde^? hi`nh bo'ng la.i .  Tie^?u dda.o qua ma^'t tie^u ro^`i ma` nghe tie^'ng
: cu?a la?o gia bo? ddi ne^n mo+'i du`ng dda.i hu`ng ta^m ma` nha('n du`m va`i
: lo+`i ....
: 
: Vo^ Vo^


	Vo^ Vi. no'i vo.ng la.i:
	Gio' tho^?i tre^n ma(.t ho^` la`m go+.n so'ng , co+' sao tra'ch 
	ma(.t ho^` kho^ng pha(?ng im ? Co' ca^`n pha'n xe't ne^n hay 
	kho^ng ne^n ?

	Vo^ Vi.
From: dnguyen@innerdoor.austin.ibm.com (Dac Nguyen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: DANANG
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:14:22 GMT
Reply-To: dnguyen@innerdoor.austin.ibm.com

Hello Da Nang-ers,

	I know some of you are out there on the net (because I've been
following any stories written about my home town).  Sadly to say, I don't
know anyone of you.  If anyone who used to live on Hung Vuong street or 
Cho Co^n area, please introduce youself, because we could be from the same 
neighborhood.  Also, those who went to Truong Kim Do`ng (used to be Truong 
Nam Tieu Hoc - right across Truong Phan Chu Trinh) in 81 & 82, please 
introduce yourself too, because we could be classmates. 

DDN
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: garrick@kpc.com (Garrick Le)
Subject: [POL] Reply to Cuong Nguyen@Zerox
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:49:32 GMT


Nguyen.osbu_north@xerox.com wrote:

>garrick@kpc.com (Garrick Le) wrote:
>>...
>>As stated already in my previous posting,I will not continue to partake in
this
>>discussion since it is too divisive and controversial.Still,IMHO,if embargo is
to
>>be lifted,with the kind of corruption in astronomical proportion existent in
VN,
>>who would pocket the major portion of international aid and investment?
>>I think the answer should be obvious to everyone.
>>
>>It is sad to see some people have so limited a vision,yet proudly proclaimed
>>their love for their fellow countrymen.Is it love or is it just hypocrisy?
>>...

>If it's "too divisive and controversial" as said then why "It is sad to see
>some people have so limited a vision"???

In my previous posting,I mentioned several reasons why I consider Mr.GTV
one who has a limited reason but you did not quote it (is it intentionally
left out?).Let me clarify this further,I said the issue of lifting the VN
embargo was too divisive and controversial.However,I called GTV one with a
limited vision at best since he did not learn the history well enough ,that
he considered communism literally harmless.Let me quote him again "No ideology
can ever kill a population.It's disaster that kills.".Thus I reminded him of
historical events caused by communists that were more than disastrous ,which
ensued in tens of thousand of deaths,even in order of millions in some instances.
How can one has a vision if he/she has not learned history lessons? Remember
that history repeats itself!This is an entirely different issue,dealing with
the consequential influence of an "ideology".
I certainly hope you will read better next time??


>Well, is this a classic case of "I'm OK - You're not OK"? When will Vietnamese
>overseas reach stage "I'm OK - You're OK"? Oh well, it may take another couple
>of decades? Or may be more?
 If the above is rebutted,this needs no further beating.


Regards,

Garrick

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Disclaimer: All opinions expressed are mine.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nguyen@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (tung thanh nguyen)
Subject: Ti`m ba.n
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:10:28 GMT

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ve^` e-mail la`:
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hay go.i so^'
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possible. Thank you in advance.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: Nhan Tran <tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com>
Subject: TECH: Clip-art
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu
Reply-To: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:15:09 GMT


Hello everyone,

Do you know where can I get public-domain, shareware or free clip-arts
PCX, IMG for Ventura, or CDR, EPS for Corel Draw.

Nha^n

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese