HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon)
Subject: Re: Quicksilver virus on furry Muck
Followup-To: alt.fan.furry
Organization: Netcom - SF Bay, Cal Northifornia
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:43:43 GMT

In article <dwest.726012843@cwis> David West writes:

[First, apologies to readers of the load of newsgroups this drivel was
originally posted to.  I've set followups appropriately, and wanted to
be sure the perpetrators had a chance to read this.]

>Oh, I just have to respond to this, since it seems my character has
>gotten brought into it...
> [ Followed by a couple of paragraphs of ill-considered twaddle, then: ]
>
>--David West
>     aka Sevnara
>
>ps. Yes, I am a male that plays a female character on FurryMUCK. Cope.
>That is what is called 'roleplaying', and if you can't handle it, maybe
>you should get a real life and leave virtual reality.

If it's virtual reality you're after, lad, perhaps we can be of some
assistance.

Can you see the growling band of citizens arrayed before you?  The ones
with the flaming torches, the crudely-lettered placards ("FOAD if you
know what's good for you!", reads one)?  The Dobermans straining at the
leash, spittled and foamed?  Can you see the necktie party walking your
way, the ones with the noose-ended coil of rope?  Look this way and you'll
see the water cannons, seven of them, pointed directly at your nose,
dripping modestly in misplaced sympathy.

They are sending you a message, David.  The message is: Confine this drivel
to the newsgroup(s) where it might have a hope in Hell of being appreciated,
even tolerated, or suffer the displeasure of the sanctified Masses.

Run along, now.

-- 
Rick Gordon      | "Loud is good." 
rickg@netcom.com |   -- Frank Loesser 
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (MAWENZI lieutenant of Kibo)
Subject: Kibo and Fertility
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:43:20 GMT


" In [a certain part of Tanzania] it is believed that a woman must never,
under any circumstances, stand between her husband and Kibo. The result of
doing so may be permanent sterility. Kibo is regarded as the source of all
fertility in the region."
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: Import/Export
In-reply-to: muhamk@microsoft.com's message of 28 Dec 92 11:23:09 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 21:32:51 EST

It is indeed an honor and a privilege for me to introduce and annotate
the following, the latest nominee for Bozotic Post of the Year:

>Newsgroups: rec.misc,misc.headlines,alt.good.news,alt.newbies,alt.newbie,junk

Now that's crossposting! Give yourself 3 points for spotting the one
appropriate group in that list.

>From: muhamk@microsoft.com (Muhammad Karim)
>Date: 28 Dec 92 11:23:09 GMT
>Organization: Microsoft Corp.
>Keywords: Import/Export
>
>I am interested in starting import/export business.  i
>
>would like some help with a product line which could be
>

Let me just interrupt at this point to call your attention to the fine
double spacing:

HEY, LOOK AT THE FINE DOUBLE SPACING!

>sold through Pakistan Television or Print Media.
>

Yes sir, alt.good.news is just *crawling* with experts on marketing in
Pakistani media!

>
>

Hey, wow, three blank lines between 'graphs!

>If you have or know someone who has any product that can
>
>be sold through the media please contact me,  i will be
>
>happy to discuss in details.
>
>
>
>I would appreciate all the help i can get.  Please email
>
>me directly at muhamk@microsoft.com.
>
>
>
>Thanks.
>
>

All of which goes to prove that even Microsoft employees are allowed
to be bozos. The only question at this point is: How can we best
market Kibo in the Pakistani media?

--
- Rich Holmes
"Grown men, he told himself, in flat contradiction of centuries of
accumulated evidence about the way grown men behave, do not behave
like this." -- Douglas Adams
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (MAWENZI lieutenant of Kibo)
Subject: The top of Kibo
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:46:59 GMT


"The topmost protuberance of Kibo, formerly known as Kaiser Wilhelm Point,
is now known as "Uhuru Peak"."
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: bryanf@cspace.comspec.com (Bryan Fullerton)
Subject: Re: Factoid Of The Week
Organization: Cyberspace
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:55:22 GMT

In article <BzxxqA.2uE@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com writes:
>[]
>	William Moulton Mason, also known as Charles Moulton, created:
>
>	a) Kitty Litter(TM) brand cat-box filler
>	b) the polygraph ("lie detector")
>	c) the "Wonder Woman" comic
>        d) blue toilet dye
>
>	I will give a nickel to the first person to get this right.
>
>							-- K.

I guess

 e) All of the above


-- 
--------------------- All comments and opinions are my own --------------------
Bryan Fullerton                                         Computer Variables, Inc
bryanf@cspace.comspec.com                        155 East Beaver Creek, Unit 27
uunet.ca!comspec!cspace!bryanf           Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada L4B 2N2
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: Factoid Of The Week
In-reply-to: bryanf@cspace.comspec.com's message of Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:55:22 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 10:07:03 EST

In article <Bzzx8A.19M@cspace.comspec.com> bryanf@cspace.comspec.com (Bryan Fullerton) writes:

>In article <BzxxqA.2uE@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com writes:
>>[]
>>	William Moulton Mason, also known as Charles Moulton, created:
>>
>>	a) Kitty Litter(TM) brand cat-box filler
>>	b) the polygraph ("lie detector")
>>	c) the "Wonder Woman" comic
>>        d) blue toilet dye
>>
>>	I will give a nickel to the first person to get this right.
>>
>>							-- K.
>
>I guess
>
> e) All of the above

f) Cartesian dualism

--
- Rich Holmes
"Grown men, he told himself, in flat contradiction of centuries of
accumulated evidence about the way grown men behave, do not behave
like this." -- Douglas Adams
From: rkoehler@author.gsfc.nasa.gov (Bob Koehler)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: STS-1 Disaster -- follow-up #3
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:19:00 GMT
Followup-To: alt.religion.kibology
Organization: CSC System Sciences Division
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Dec30.140313.7178@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes...
> 
>According to the conspiracy theorists, the Columbia was destroyed after
>launch by Russian space war satellites and thus the "Columbia" that landed
>was really the Enterprise manned by clones.  I think the lemurs were all
>behind it.
> 

Somebody better tell the lemurs:  Enterprise is sitting parked at Dulles, I've
seen it, and it doesn't say "Columbia" anywhere.  Been there for years, too.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Bob Koehler                     |   Any illusion to these opinions being other
rkoehler@author.gsfc.nasa.gov   |   than just mine alone is just that.

 " Life is life, and fun is fun, but it's all so quiet when the goldfish die. "
                         - Blixie
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: clavazzi@nyx.cs.du.edu (The_Doge)
Subject: Re: Factoid Of The Week
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 05:30:22 GMT

In article <BzxxqA.2uE@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com writes:
>[]
>	William Moulton Mason, also known as Charles Moulton, created:
>
	And the answer is:
>	c) the "Wonder Woman" comic
	But I thought *everybody* knew that!

>	I will give a nickel to the first person to get this right.
	Include $20 postage and handling with that, please.

>							-- K.
>
The_Doge



Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Hey!  Dave Letterman just said...
Organization: The Linux Inquisition, Propaganda Division
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 22:44:47 GMT

In article <1hbj6mINN1lf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Polewka) writes:
>????
>
>-- 
>=======================
>"Endeavor to persevere"
>=======================

???? - acronyms
***************************
   ????
   ????
***************************

mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh     mdw@tc.cornell.edu     Cornell Theory Center
  "It's a Katana, ya Midwestern Computer Geek." --Tom Payne
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology,alt.alien.visitors
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: Kibof
Reply-To: kibo@world.std.com
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 04:03:56 GMT

By the way folks I'm on vacation right now so I can't post.
James_-_Kibo_-_Parry
Xref: sparky alt.religion.kibology:5611 alt.fan.warlord:9796 alt.x-headers.overboard:1
From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Matt McIrvin)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: STS-1 Disaster -- follow-up #3
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:04:20 GMT
 <30DEC199208300788@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> <1992Dec30.140313.7178@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <30DEC199217190578@author.gsfc.nasa.gov>

rkoehler@author.gsfc.nasa.gov (Bob Koehler) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.140313.7178@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes...
>> 
>>According to the conspiracy theorists, the Columbia was destroyed after
>>launch by Russian space war satellites and thus the "Columbia" that landed
>>was really the Enterprise manned by clones.  I think the lemurs were all
>>behind it.

>Somebody better tell the lemurs:  Enterprise is sitting parked at Dulles, I've
>seen it, and it doesn't say "Columbia" anywhere.  Been there for years, too.

No, no, no-- the orbiter parked at Dulles and labeled "Enterprise" is in
fact a Styrofoam mockup made in the year 259,364 by the lemurs' bipedal,
large-brained descendants and sent back via anticausal Styrofoam
Synchronicity Vibrations.  Since Styrofoam is of course conscious,
I'd say we ought to watch it carefully.
-- 
Matt McIrvin
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology,alt.fan.warlord
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: RePosted Favorite-1
Keywords: Kibo, sig
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:01:32 GMT

nobody@dev.null (nobody) writes:

>> (It's green with silver chevron, three wolves, erased.  No, not like THAT.
>> "Erased" in heraldry just means their heads with bloody remnants of
>> their neck, as opposed to neatly sliced off or the whole wolf.)

>Don't tell Peter da Silva about it.

Have you hugged your bloody remnants of wolf neck today?

-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@compass.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
"A witty .signature proves nothing" - Voltaire (sort of)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (MAWENZI lieutenant of Kibo)
Subject: Kibo loses virginity
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:47:55 GMT


"Kibo was first ascended by a German named Mayer in the 1880's."
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (MAWENZI lieutenant of Kibo)
Subject: Kibology...the real thing
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:45:35 GMT


In [a certain part of Tanzania] Kibo is worshipped. Some pray to Kibo for
rain. One local chief of the Wachagga: "God came from Kibo. In fact, God
*is* Kibo."
From: friedman@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Noah Friedman)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
Subject: Re: Alternate Uses of "kibo" - #2
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:34:26 GMT
Organization: Free Software Foundation, 675 Mass Ave. Cambridge, MA 02139
NNTP-Posting-Host: nutrimat.gnu.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: mad5c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU's message of 29 Dec 92 17:27:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.172741.19371@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> mad5c@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Michael DeLong) writes:
>As a variety of pasta:
>
>Kibo Macaroni.

Then, of course, there's the radio dinner (as opposed to tv dinners):

             Marconi and Cheese
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods)
Subject: Merry Christmas, Spot
Organization: Misanthropes-R-Us
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:56:21 GMT

Since it is Christmas, after all, I have decided that JUST FOR TODAY,
Spot will be allowed.  Merry Christmas, Spot.

Wait a minute.  Christmas was 5 days ago.  Sorry, Spot, maybe next year.
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: mike@Virginia.EDU (Michael DeLong)
Subject: Alternate Uses of 'Kibo', #1
Reply-To: mike@Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:31:35 GMT

As the capitol of a medium-sized South American country:

Kibo, Ecuador.

Mike.
--
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107539077744992069551702761838606261331384583000752044933826560297606...

One with a little less style and a lot less grace.


Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Factoid Of The Week
Reply-To: kibo@world.std.com
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:10:57 GMT

[]
	William Moulton Mason, also known as Charles Moulton, created:

	a) Kitty Litter(TM) brand cat-box filler
	b) the polygraph ("lie detector")
	c) the "Wonder Woman" comic
        d) blue toilet dye

	I will give a nickel to the first person to get this right.

							-- K.

Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology,alt.stupidity
From: news@geovision.gvc.com (News Administrator)
Subject: Re: Found on some BBS...
Reply-To: pt@compass.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:25:49 GMT

churchyh@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Henry Churchyard) writes:
>Next time you feel smug about being Homo Sapiens, compare our time-span
>against that of the Australopethecines!

Why - what type of newsreader did they use?

[I believe the ultimate destiny of a truly sapient species is to create a
news network]

-- 
I'm the News Administrator at this site, and you're not!
I just administer the news, I don't make or state policy.
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology,talk.bizarre,alt.slack,alt.tasteless
From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: Alternate Uses of 'Kibo', #1
In-reply-to: mike@Virginia.EDU's message of Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:31:35 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 11:03:57 EST

In article <1992Dec22.043135.17027@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> mike@Virginia.EDU (Michael DeLong) writes:

>Mike.
>--
>e = 2.718281828459045235360287471352662497757247093699959574966967627724
>076630353547594571382178525166427427466391932003059921817413596629043572
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>130702154089149934884167509244761460668082264800168477411853742345442437
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2997921...





DISCLAIMER: I made it up. 

--
- Rich Holmes
"Grown men, he told himself, in flat contradiction of centuries of
accumulated evidence about the way grown men behave, do not behave
like this." -- Douglas Adams
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Net.celebrities for ftp
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 11:29:41 GMT

In <Dec18.031300.49503@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith) writes:

>Big Al.  Please, no jokes about dead naugas, that happens to be a sore spot
>with me.

Kibo keeps live naugas chained up in his living room.  If they don't
become chair-shaped whenever someone wants to sit on them they don't get
any Spam for dinner.
-- 
/|/-\/-\       The entire universe		Jerusalem
 |__/__/_/     is a very Czarish gazelle.
 |warren@      But the farmer
/ nysernet.org is not hungry at all.
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: boesch@cs.washington.edu (Eric Boesch)
Subject: Re: Trip on Space Ship 3.
Organization: McDonald's University Hamburger-Flipping Masters Program
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 05:13:21 GMT

rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes) writes:
>That's it folks; it's official. Eric Boesch has won the 1992 Master
>Baiter of the Year contest in a landslide.

Well, I'm very flattered.  You can't know how this award has brightened my
little cave.  My bowels empty in spasms of glee.  My face beams, bathing my
unlit boarded-up-windows towel-in-the-gap-under-the-door
black-velvet-wallpaper bedroom in dirty light.  My bulging lidless eyes are
blinded by the reflection in the LCD monitor of my glowing pimply mug as drool
runs down my scrawny hairless chest to mix with other fluids upon encountering
the ripped moth-eaten Fruit of the Looms which I've worn since I was nine.  If
it weren't for the malnutrition and dehydration, I think I might just explode
in ecstasy.

I finally feel complete, in a solitary, emotionally stunted,
uneven-intellectual-development way.  Although I'll always be insanely jealous
of the guy who started the ALL FAGS MUST DIE thread last year.  And of
everyone who leads a semi-normal life.  But you get the idea.

I wasn't even trying.  I thought I was being pretty blunt about it.  And they
replied in such good English, too!  It's mind-boggling.  Here are four
theories:

a) It was the British spellinge
b) It was the reference to the East German university.  If it works for Weekly
   World News, it can work for you.
c) billions and billions of alt.alien.visitors readers
d) alt.alien.visitors readers will believe anything

Take your pick.  Maybe I deserve my own award for cluelessness for not
realizing what would happen.  Especially considering how many lessons I had
already had in the human potential for humorlessness, like the following:

Helpful hint: if you're grading papers and you find one that says "Sorry I'm
turning this in late, I've had a bad week," DO NOT write in the reply

"Please indicate your birthdate so that your statement can be checked against
your biorhythm.  Also, I've had a bad week too, so I hope you don't mind if I
take points off for no reason at all."

The bit about radio waves being unable to move in a vacuum is courtesy of
Madeleine L'Engle of _A Wrinkle In Time_.  She explained it to my 8th grade
class, complete with the 1918 radio program heard on the moon.  What a bozo!
Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: magnus@brisk.ii.uib.no (Magnus Alvestad)
Subject: Re: Alternate Uses of 'Kibo', #1
Reply-To: magnus@ii.uib.no
Organization: UVBS -> SFK/T-DSA / SOPS - HOS / RNoN
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 20:54:48 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 22 Dec 1992 04:31:35 GMT, mike@Virginia.EDU (Michael
>>>>> DeLong) said:

	Michael> As the capitol of a medium-sized South American
	Michael> country:

	Michael> Kibo, Ecuador.

As the name of a joint Japanese-Norwegian house building venture. Ki
is japanese for .. well .. for ki. Bo is of course norwegian for to
leave and common last part of norwegian house building ventures.

Btw the walls in the toilets at my job, in the Norwegian Navy, ar
built by 'Fibo' .. International conspiracy? 

-Magnus

Newsgroups: alt.religion.kibology
From: klm@gozer.mv.com (Kevin L. McBride)
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas, Spot
Organization: GhostBuster Central - Southern NH Usenet Access, Nashua, NH
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 20:18:23 GMT

jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods) writes:

> Since it is Christmas, after all, I have decided that JUST FOR TODAY,
> Spot will be allowed.  Merry Christmas, Spot.

> Wait a minute.  Christmas was 5 days ago.  Sorry, Spot, maybe next year.

Just don't remember to forget his birthday again next year.
From: russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers
Subject: Re: The woes of ^Z
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 11:28:36 MST
Organization: Private System, Edmonton, AB, Canada
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.98

fjh@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fergus James HENDERSON) writes:

>>if having ^Z in news postings becomes the new fad, I guess I'll have to
>>do something about it - but not yet.
> 
> Was that an invitation?
> Should I start  inserting  control-Z all over the place?
> 
> Maybe it'll catch on ;-)

depends how much of postings people want ignored, since we now know of
at least two implementations that are using their runtime libraries which
are stopping at that last holdout of CP/M, the ^Z.

not that getting both (all) of them fixed would be a bad thing, but is
there any situation that already exists where this is a big problem?
-- 
Russell Schulz  russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca  ersys!rschulz  Shad 86c
From: mellon@ncd.com (Ted Lemon)
Newsgroups: alt.religion.computers
Subject: Re: Where the mac really wins
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:08:27 GMT
	<1992Dec17.111141.25970@zip.eecs.umich.edu>
	<1h33k2INNh0m@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Inc.
In-reply-to: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu's message of 21 Dec 92 16:12:11 GMT


In article <1h33k2INNh0m@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division) writes:
>Many of the students who come and use our lab only use the computers for
>2-3 hours a week and would never even contemplate a computer for the home.
>The average computer will set you back $2000 after CPU, printer etc and
>will be worth $0 in 5 years.  at 150 hours per year that comes to about 750
>hours of use for some of our less enthusiastic students which means that
>their wonderful 486 bought now has cost them $2 an hour to use when they
>can come into the University lab and spend nothing in our lab, or $1 a day
>in the Maths lab.

Bogus.  How much is your time worth?  If the computer saves you time
(how many people here have ever used scissors and glue to cut and
paste?), you can't account for the cost/benefit ratio of the computer
by simply dividing the cost by the number of hours that you used it.
Instead, consider how much it would have cost the student to do the
work without the computer.  In these days of students working two jobs
and taking a full course-load at the same time, such savings *are*
significant.

Also, are the computer students in your lab doing CS classwork on the
computers, or hacking on papers?   If the former, then your number has
no bearing at all on the value of the computer, because the big win
comes not in having your own machine to hack on, but in having your
own machine to do word processing on.   You would have to hack on your
CS classwork regardless of what computer you used, so the only net
benefit there is perhaps less time spent waiting for a machine in the
software lab.

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