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From: Joseph.Emmanuel@p1.f4.n301.z1.fidonet.org (Joseph Emmanuel)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: software for kids
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 19:32:43 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:301/4.1 - The Call, Albuquerque NM


 MM> Do you have a TAPE DRIVE backup?  If not I can transfer them
 MM> over for you...
 MM> 
 MM> Matt

No I do not have a type drive.  How are you going to "transfer them over" to me?  

You mean upload them!  That is going to be a big job.  Also I have only around 20 meg left on my HD.

      -Joseph



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From: Joseph.Emmanuel@p1.f4.n301.z1.fidonet.org (Joseph Emmanuel)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: software for kids
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 18:14:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:301/4.1 - The Call, Albuquerque NM


 JF> The Libaray contains aprrox 130 Mb of software

How does one get hold of this library?


 JF> avaialable on QIK 40 format back-up tapes.

What is "QIK 40 format?"  Can you put these software on a hd on a dos machine (I sure you could).

      -Joseph



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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: software for kids
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 16:18:38 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Joseph!

Sunday September 06 1992, Joseph Emmanuel writes to John Feltham:


 > How does one get hold of this library?
 > What is "QIK 40 format?"  Can you put these software on a hd on a dos
 > machine (I sure you could).

I will pass your msg on to Rob Reilly, he is the K12Net Librarian. You should hear from him soon.

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From: pfaffman@pilot.njin.net (Jay Pfaffman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: CD-ROM DISKS OF ED. SOFTWARE
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:19:32 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I good source for cheap CD-ROMS is Walnut Creek CD-ROM. They
offer mostly stuff that you can get off the internet, but for 
those of us who don't have a real internet connection it's a nice
service.  Their disks run from $25-40.  I regret that I don't have 
the phone number at hand, but I believe you can get it from 800-555-1212. 

No, I don't work for them.

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Dwight-Englewood School, 315 E. Palisade Ave.                      
Englewood, NJ  07631-0489                 201-569-9500
From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: COMPUTERS
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:29:25 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <09 Sep 92  10:10:21> to <Steve Larson> about <Re: COMPUTERS>,
Kevin Mccluskey wrote:

...stuff deleted...
 KM> Thanks for the information.  Are you by any chance using I-class?  I
 KM> am interested in receiving information from teachers who have tried it
 KM> out.   

Our school owns one copy of it and my partner and I installed it.  We
didn't like it although I can see where it offers a lot of advantages.  We
prefer to use Novell's utilities.
Also, I-Class is, if I remember correctly, set up to use IBM's Educational
Software (none of which we use).  We also felt it to be very intrusive.  In
our particular environment, it was not what we wanted.  In all fairness to
the package, though, the documentation was clear and installation was
relatively painless.  Getting it OUT was another matter!  I also have to
add that we may not have given the program a fair chance in that we only
left it on the system for about a day and decided that we didn't want to
use it.

I'm sure that you will get a lot of positive answers on this issue, though.
I think that the package has a lot to offer.

Regards,
Steve

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From: Kevin.Mccluskey@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Mccluskey)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: COMPUTERS
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 08:19:09 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Have not had much of a reply as of yet.  I'll forward anything your way that 
looks of use.  What levels are you interested in?  I have a friend leaving 
for Australia in two weeks.....vacation for three months!  Guess what he does 
for a living????  What is state of the are in computers in your country?  Is 
there a base configuration or a written policy for computers in Education?

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From: Dennis.Blazewicz@f400.n348.z1.fidonet.org (Dennis Blazewicz)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: software for kids
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 20:18:45 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:348/400 - DEFCON InfoSystem, Winnipeg MB

LR> Can anyone advise me on some educational games for home use with
LR> children from 5-10 years old.  Money is a problem as we are still paying
LR> off the IBM 
LR> so maybe shareware would be an option?  Any suggestions please?  I
LR> cannot put 

  Well, theres a local programmer here in thee 'Peg that has written quite a
few Childrens Educational Game/Etc.  His Name is Bill Buckels, and if you're
interested <please e-mail me, seeing as i don't too often read thee posts>,
i'll see what i can do.

TTYL.


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From: Audy.Barr@f66.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Audy Barr)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: COM 1? COM2, COM3, COM4?????????
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 22:28:18 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/66 - Calgary Message Lin, Calgary Alta

Tks for the info Arthur....I am reluctant to mess with the mother board itself as I have finally got the modem to work along with its fax twin all ok now on the com4 configuration....I think I will try the shareware distrib for info on a program upgrade if one's available.
Audy


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From: Gordon.Ramsay@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Gordon Ramsay)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: CD-ROM DISKS OF ED. SOFTWARE
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 20:56:42 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

I am looking for a supplier who handles CD_ROM disks and in particular one 
with Educational software. I have noticed one in Flordia but can not seem to 
get a response from the telephone no. listed. If you know of any suppliers 
and the name of a particular disk that would be appropriate for the Grade 1-9 
levels I would appreciate a reply
Gordon Ramsay
Hernewood Jr. High
O'Leary RR#3
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From: Lorin.McCaffrey@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Lorin McCaffrey)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: COM 1? COM2, COM3, COM4?????????
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 19:59:18 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

Sorry to break in on your conversation guys...
 AH> out of my classroom. I had an internal 2400 baud 
 AH> modem installed but because the I/O card had two 
 AH> serial ports on it the modem had to be comfigured 
 AH> as COM3 or COM4. Finally I figured out that I had 
 AH> to change the jumpers on the I/O card to disable 
 AH> COM2 and then reconfigure the internal modem as 
 AH> COM2. 
 
I have the same problem that you had... however, my I/O card does not have jumpers and it's manual says outright that neither COM1 or COM2 can be disabled.  Since a lot of older programs only support COM1 or COM2, i can't use them.  You woudn't happen to know of anyway that I can use these programs short of tearing my I/O card out of my computer do you?
 
--Lorin McCaffrey.


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From: Matt.Montgomery@p0.f126.n3816.z1.fidonet.org (Matt Montgomery)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: software for kids
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 12:56:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3816/126.0 - The Town Crier, Amarillo TX

 -=> Quoting Joseph Emmanuel to John Feltham <=-

 JE> What is "QIK 40 format?"  Can you put these software on a hd on a dos
 JE> machine (I sure you could). 

Joseph,
  The QIC 40 is a format that is used by TAPE BACKUP drive such as the
Colorado Memory Systems 120 meg backup drive.  Most drives support this 
except when you get into the 240 meg backups which use the QIC 80 or something
like that.  Do you have a TAPE DRIVE backup?  If not I can transfer them
over for you...

Matt



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From: Brian.Bridal@f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Bridal)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: CD-ROM DISKS OF ED. SOFTWARE
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 14:01:44 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

What type of computers are you using?
 
We use Macintosh...and if that is the same for you, EDUCORP puts out a CD-ROM that is adequate (not great) but adequate!
 
brian


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From: Dan.Moran@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Moran)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Help
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 09:07:02 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

KR>Need HELP on accesing extra Ram. I`m trying to use an extra
KR>2 Megs of mem on a 286 clone for a total of 4 megs. The
KR>extra ram are 2 SIPPs 1 meg modules  added to the 2 megs
KR>that were already on the machine and have no idea of how to
KR>access the extra Ram. I want to use it as a Ram Disk but


After the SIPPS are installed, does the system recognize it?  During the
POST, as the PC counts RAM, does the amount increase to show that the PC
recognizes the new memory?  If not, you may have to run a setup program
to have the PC recognize the memory and update it's CMOS.
If it does, than you probably need a driver to access memory as EMS.  If
you have DR-DOS 6, you can use the driver included in it to access the
new memory. If you don't have the software already, you can get
commercial packages from Quarterdeck or Qualitas.  There are even EMS
drivers on some BBS's that you might try.
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From: Carol.Nauss@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Nauss)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: CURRICULUM IDEAS PLE
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 22:18:21 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Fran...:)  Just set up a curriculum for primary to grade 6 in our area. 
Would the skills development list I developed be of any use to you?  If so 
leave me an address where I can send it as we don't as yet have the ability 
to send files from our end.  It is coming.  Carol

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From: Maurice.Lapointe@f118.n244.z1.fidonet.org (Maurice Lapointe)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: computer curriculum
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 14:19:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:244/118 - Renzo's Roost, Hamilton ON

We have snow from about November to April. It's a long winter. Computer whise, we try to get as many as we can from the Ministry. Please keep in touch, I like the news from NeLapointe, Burlington, OntarCanada ada 


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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: COMPUTERS
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 09:20:51 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <04 Sep 92  09:07:41> to <New York State> about <COMPUTERS>,
Kevin Mccluskey wrote:

 KM> under something called I-Class?  Can anyone provide information????? 

Kevin, I don't know much about the rest of your message, but I-Class is an
IBM product designed to allow teachers to more readily manage software and
class sets of users on an existing Novell Network.

Regards,
Steve

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From: Ronald.Kellett@p30.f236.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Ronald Kellett)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: COMPUTERS
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:36:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/236.30 - Log Inn, Bloomfield NY

      Kevin,
I don't know anything about the NEW YORK STATE network that you are talking
 about, but that just means that it isn't in my area (Upper New York). Even so
all the schools that I know of in this area have a bbs if the bbs's are
 connected they don't show any sign of it. I am on H.C.S (Honeoye Central
 School) bbs right now.

                                   Sincerly,
                                   Ronald Kellett


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From: Joseph.Emmanuel@p1.f4.n301.z1.fidonet.org (Joseph Emmanuel)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: RE: software for kids
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 08:18:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:301/4.1 - The Call, Albuquerque NM


 JF> I will pass your msg on to Rob Reilly, he is the K12Net Librarian. You
 JF> should hear from him soon.

Looking forward to hear from him.  Thanks.

     -Joseph



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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: What's Best???????
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 10:15:55 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <09 Sep 92  07:43:18> to <New Networked Lab Users....> about <What's Best???????>,
Lawrence Pidluzny wrote:

 LP> Hello there. Unfortunately, I have not been careful reading messages
 LP> in this area, but now since there is hope of us acquiring a new IBM
 LP> networked lab with 20 stations, I guess i will need some advice.

Lawrence, we are in the process of upgrading our lab.  We will continue to
use Novell, ArcNet NICs with Boot Proms, and twisted pair cabling.  We are
switching from a 386-33 Clone file server to a 486.  All work stations are
currently old 8088 IBM PC's with monochrome CGA monitors.  The new work
stations will now consist of 28 386-33 Clones without Hard Drives and will
have colour VGA screens and Trackballs.  We will also have an additional
high-powered work station suitable for Graphics/Scanning/Multi Media etc.

We are paying about $50,000 for all this.

The software we are currently running is:
WordPerfect 5.1     ^^^^^^^^^
Microsoft Works 2.0 (integrated WP, SP, DB & Telecommunications)
Turbo Pascal (senior grades)
IBM Basic (junior grades)
dBASE IV
Lotus 1-2-3
Autosketch (junior CAD program)

Once the new workstations are installed, we will probably look at some
additional software for graphics.  We are going to try to put all other
purchases on hold for as long as we can until (or IF) it is determined
which of Windows 3.1, Windows NT, OS/2  is going to the be the platform of
choice and which of these is going to receive wholehearted support by
mainstream program developers.

May I suggest that you contact ANO in Edmonton and give them the
opportunity to design and quote on a system according to your needs and
budget.  Another company in Edmonton is Multitech.  However, we have been
singularly unimpressed by their in-house computer, although their service,
in our case, has been nothing short of terrific.  We have found their
Prospec 386SX to be flaky in a network environment.  You could also give
Victor Kennedy at Computerland a call.  All of these people will be PLEASED
to give you quotes on systems for your needs and budget.  Computerland
carries IBM products and there is a new line coming out.  If we could have
afforded it, we probably would have gone with ACER or some other UPGRADEABLE
computer.  That way, down the road when you wish to upgrade, you simply
plug in the upgrade chip and save bundles of money!  ;-)


In our case, we knew what we wanted for our upgrade, and we fully intend to
circulate our OLD computers to teachers' classrooms and have them networked
to existing LANS.  However, when we put it out for tender in May, the price
came in at $57,000.  After putting it out for tender again, the lowest bid
was submitted by the SAME company (ANO) and had dropped $7000!

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Steve


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From: Fran.O'gorman@f94.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Fran O'gorman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: Curriculum Ideas Please!
Date: Tue,  1 Sep 92 17:18:37 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/94 - Monroe Electronic M, Monroe NY

 <> From: U58396@uicvm.uic.edu (<U58396@uicvm.uic.edu>)
 <> Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 16:12:27 CDT
 <> Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
 <> Message-ID: <92241.161227U58396@uicvm.uic.edu>
 <> Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
    
 <> Help!!
 <> I will be handling part of a computer resource center for a private 
 <> school this fall, something that's slightly out of my area.  I need 
 <> some parctical ideas for setting up a basic curriculum for the 
 <> school, a small private school of about 300 kids sepcializing in 
 <> Learning Disabled and Gifted programs.
    
 <> Any ideas or info on resources I can get before Sept. 8 would be
 <> GREATLY APPRECIATED.
    
While you did specify learning disabled and gifted, you didn't
mention the age group you were going to be teaching or on what
kind of hardware...would need to know this to suggest
possibilities... 

Laureate Learning Systems and Hartley Courseware are two companies
which specialize in special populations...

Integrating computers into subject areas often works well...like
using a database or spreadsheet in conjunction with data gathering
for a science project, and wordprocessing is a natuaral for
composition skills...but in both cases the younger the child the
'lighter' the software can be to fit the bill-- no sense in
pulling out a Mack truck to do what a nice little Hyundai can do! :-)

--Fran



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From: Fran.O'gorman@f94.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Fran O'gorman)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: Re: computer curriculum
Date: Tue,  1 Sep 92 17:40:51 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/94 - Monroe Electronic M, Monroe NY

 ML> Great message Fran. I will surely keep in touch. This is a great 
 ML> way to bring computers into the classroom. I hope New York has a 
 ML> good computer background as we do.

It's very mixed.  Some school districts have a lot and some don't.
Ironically the districts that waited to set up computer labs often
have the better hardware once they did...the waiting paid as the
technology improved...and since there is no tenure area defined
for computer teacher, people have come from a variety of
sources... sometimes (most often) the math department...the
business department...technolgy department... and in my case,
library media specialist...but in my case it happens to have been
a hobby at first and that's how I happened to get involved in
teaching it whereas most media specialist use computers and teach
individually how to use their systems but don't necessarily teach
classes of computers per se... what subject area have you taught
before getting into this? 

 ML> It sure sounds that way from 
 ML> the look of things here in Canada.

Do you mean that it looks like NY is more advanced than Canada in
implementing computers in education?  If so, I'd be surprised
since Canada seemed in the forefront of media in education (in the
form of film and such) since way back in the 60's and 70's with
the National Film Board of Canada.  I thought Canada was ahead of
us in that regard.

 ML> I'll let you know of any new 
 ML> developments.

Please do, let's keep in touch.

 ML> Buy for now, Maurice Lapointe from the great white 
 ML> north. .
     
The accidental use of THAT form of bye (buy) is ironic here as the
spending factor has alot to do with this-- whether school
districts have the money to spend on the labs and software... it
IS a big factor.  BTW when you say great white north is there snow
there most of the time?  I'm wondering what part of Canada you're
from... I guess I should look at the tagline on you msg...

--Fran
 


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From: Kevin.Mccluskey@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Mccluskey)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: COMPUTERS
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 09:07:41 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

I have heard that New York State is part way through a major computer 
project that will link a lot of schools in a Wide Area Network? I have also 
heard that IBM is involved in a big way using their TLC software under 
something called I-Class?  Can anyone provide information?????  If the 
information is in printed form My fax #=(506) 453-3325.  Snail Mail is Okay 
as well and I can provide an address.


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From: Dan.Moran@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Moran)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.comp.literacy
Subject: com ports
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 09:07:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

AB>I have an interesting problem. I have a neat little program called ATOMIC
AB>CLOCK designed to automatically dial boulder Co and update
AB>your computor clock to the atomic clock located ther.
AB>PROBLEM.. my internal modem (smartone) runs on com port 4
AB>(com 4)...during the initial installation of this modem the
AB>factory defalt setting was com2 and I just could'nt get it
AB>to work even though my com2 port was not in use (com1 has
AB>mouse attached via external plug) After much trying

The problem lies in that while Com1 and Com3 have different addresses as
a default, they are assigned the same Interupt Request (IRQ) line, which
is IRQ 4.  Similarily, Com2 and Com4 share IRQ 3.  If you are not using
Com2, use should probably find a way to use it as it will be the
simplest solution.  Otherwise, what you can do is to determine if there
is and IRQ that is not being used, and assign it to Com3 or Com4.  I am
also using a 2400 SmartModem, and being an older one, it only allows me
to configure it as Com1 or Com2, and I cannot choose alternate IRQ's for
it either.  So I have set it up as Com1 with the standard IRQ 4, and
have configure my serial card to Com2/IRQ4 and Com3/IRQ5 (I chose IRQ 5
because it is normally used by the second parallel port (LPT2), which I
dont' have.
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