HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Copy Protection Schemes Feedback
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:09:25 GMT

Well the feeback has started to wane on the copy protection scheme issue,  
although the topic of pricing and piracy is still going strong. I have  
tallied the results of what I have received in personal e-mail and what  
I've caught of the posts to Usenet. I've filtered put responses that  
didn't directly address the issue of copy protection. While not entirely  
scientific here are the findings:

No protection at all: 42%
Launch metering/Floating license: 17%
Tied to host ID: 12%
In favor of copy protection, but not the hassle of obtaining keys: 10%
Either host ID or user ID (either is acceptable): 8%
Key file: 8%
Serialization: 3%
Software should be free: 1 individual

Thanks to everybody that responded.

-------------------

Interesting quotes:

"Make it free software.  GNU survives, why shouldn't you?"

"Both username and machine serial# links are *completely* unnacceptable."

"It's easy.  If it's copy protected, I won't buy it.  I've sent products  
back because of that."

"If you're expecting or experiencing a problem, change your price  
structure."

"...unfortunately, a 2-user license doesn't work very well for 30+  
people." (!)

"..and as i have discovered, companies who have implemented these schemes  
have yet to provide adequate support... i have spent as long as 20 minutes  
on hold trying to get such a key only to have the phone disconnect."
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From: sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart Ritchie)
Subject: COCONET
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 22:52:00 GMT

Say, whatever happened with COCONET anyway?  A year ago those guys were
saying that the NeXT version was going to be their flagship product.
Now where are they?

Just curious,
Stuart
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From: randyj@randy.oac.osc.edu (Randy Jackson)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect Development Continues
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:47:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.230341.28375@morrow.stanford.edu>  
hinds@cmgm.Stanford (Alexander Scott Hinds) writes:

....(.....)

> 
> I got burned by them when I purchased Amiga Wordperfect.  I won't make  
the  
> same mistake twice.  Naturally, this is just my opinion, not advice.
> 
> --X

Burned?  In what way?  And why transfer an Amiga-based policy to (all) 
other platforms?  

I was always happy with WP for DOS, and in spite of some deficiencies,
I am relatively pleased with WP for NeXT.  I recently purchased 
EquationBuilder, and find the two products work pretty well together to 
support my writing needs.

--
Randy Jackson
Ohio State Zooniversity
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Subject: Re: Free Appsoft Draw
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 09:21:20 GMT
Reply-To: frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik

In article <1992Aug17.055844.584@appsoft.com>  writes:
> A fully functional copy of Appsoft Draw which you can authorize for 30 days  
has  
> been uploaded to the sonata.cc.purdue.edu archive under /pub/next/demos. 
> 
> Draw has been shipping for three months and is getting good reviews from  
users.   
> Chuck Hansen at Motorola writes that Appsoft Draw is "awesome."  
> 
> Independent designer Michael Bodily says, "Draw is easier to use  
> than Illustrator.  It's perfect for corporate or in-house use."  NeXTWORLD  
> magazine calls it "ideal as a basic drawing tool for both general users and  
> professional illustrators."  
> 
> Find out for yourself.  Here's how it works.  You have to first download the  
> AppsoftDraw.tar file and install it.  Then when you start your copy of Draw,  
> you will be asked to call Appsoft, toll free, at 1-800-428-2777.  When you  
call  
> us and give us your serial number, we will give you an authorization number  
on  
> the spot which will turn on Draw for 30 days.  If you get stuck, consult the  
> fully indexed Help files included with the application.  Or call us direct  
and  
> we will be happy to help you out.
> 
> Spread the word about  Appsoft Draw!  Feel free to give a copy of your demo  
> disk to anybody else with a NeXT machine.  Enter the Appsoft Draw Art Contest  
> described in the enclosed flier.  Send us your creations and you could win  
free  
> copies of Appsoft Draw and Appsoft Image, our new photo editing and image  
> processing package due out in October.  Above all, tell us what you think  
about  
> the application.  We are always interested in feedback and suggestions.
> 
> Peter Seymour
> Director of Sales
> 
> pseymour@appsoft.com
> 
> Appsoft, Inc.
> 255 Shoreline Dr., Suite 520
> Redwood City, CA 94065
> 415 802-2900   fax   415 592-6043

Nice, and now for some fire from abroad: (also mailed directly)

Have you (AppSoft) fixed the damm problems with the "forreign" characters? I  
WANT TO TYPE UMLAUTS! It won't work in AppsoftDraw - it worked in the last  
release of Draw ...

And: how doy you think we (from outside the USA) are to reach you at the 1-800  
number??????? 

-Robert
--
Robert Frank                         tel. + (061) 321 99 67                 
Institut fuer Informatik             fax  + (061) 321 99 15                 
University of Basel, Switzerland                                            
Mittlere Strasse 142      rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)  
CH-4056 Basel          X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
                   ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )
From: anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:31:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bt8G8L.6u6.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <7338@ayumi.stars.flab.fujitsu.co.jp> mikhe@flab.fujitsu.co.jp writes:
>In article <Bt3qoL.Jn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B.  
>Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>>makes Word nothing more than a toy to me.  Frame is useless due to
>>it's many crashes and sudden logouts.
>
>Duh? What are you talking about? I use Frame (v3.0.1 that is), with ALL of its  
>features on a daily basis and have yet to see it crash or log me out.

I was a little confused too.  I've been using Framemaker 3.0.1 for about a month
and a half (after a year of happily using 2.0) and it hasn't yet crashed or logged
me out(!).  I really find what you say a little hard to believe.

Could you please present the conditions under which Framemaker has crashed on 
you?  

>
>Have you ever actually used Frame, or is this heresay? If you do, then what  
>configuration are you running under that causes this behaviour? Please be at  
>least a little more specific when you decide to flame products, instead of  
>generating random statements without factual basis.
>
>I, of course, have no affiliation with Frame other than being a happy customer.

Me too.

>
>>-- Jeff (jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
>
>		-Mike
>--
>Mike Henry                             mikhe@flab.fujitsu.co.jp        ///
>Fujitsu Nakahara House West 8 #524     mikhe@cs.uoregon.edu           ///
>6-7-1 Shimokodanaka, Nakahara          mikhe@ida.liu.se           \\\///
>Kawasaki 221, JAPAN                                                \XX/


-- 
Anwar Mohammed                           Graduate Student
anwar+@cs.cmu.edu  (NeXTmail welcome)    School of Computer Science
Voice: +1 412 268 3043                   Carnegie-Mellon University
Fax:   +1 412 681 5739                   Pittsburgh, PA  15213-3890
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: EquationBuilder - WriteNow - Create, questions, etc.
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 18:10:22 GMT

Philip McDunnough writes
> >4. Can you paste into WriteNow ?
>
> The problem with pasting into the current WriteNow is
> that the EPS baseline information is not carried over.
> This will, I am told, be fixed in the next version of
> WriteNow. It is supported in PasteUp. It's an addition to
> the EPS spec. 
> 

WP has the same problem.  Will the next version of WP  
(when/if it comes) also have that fix?

--
-
Stefano Pagiola
Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:38:07 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed) writes:

>In article <7338@ayumi.stars.flab.fujitsu.co.jp> mikhe@flab.fujitsu.co.jp writes:
>>In article <Bt3qoL.Jn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B.  
>>Nicholson-Owens) writes:
>>>makes Word nothing more than a toy to me.  Frame is useless due to
>>>it's many crashes and sudden logouts.
>>
>>Duh? What are you talking about? I use Frame (v3.0.1 that is), with ALL of its  
>>features on a daily basis and have yet to see it crash or log me out.

>I was a little confused too.  I've been using Framemaker 3.0.1 for about a month
>and a half (after a year of happily using 2.0) and it hasn't yet crashed or logged
>me out(!).  I really find what you say a little hard to believe.

>Could you please present the conditions under which Framemaker has crashed on 
>you?  

How about when you drag an eps file into your document and then,quickly,
scroll the page.  I've crashed it so many times, I've forgotten about 
drag and drop completely and now only use the "import" function.

Dave
-- 
David Basiji 
"C neophyte, Bioengineering Grad Student, Internet Personality"

email: basiji@u.washington.edu          
NeXTmail: basiji@larry.pathology.washington.edu

		"Whining is just anger coming out of a very small hole."
            --Stuart Smalley
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Ramdisk coming for NeXT (and InstantTeX woes)
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:59:08 GMT
 .de><1992Aug10.124010.21440@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE><1992Aug12.132553.5839@sinix.UUCP>
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
In-reply-to: dhg@sinix.UUCP's message of 12 Aug 92 13:25:53 GMTLines: 34

In article <1992Aug12.132553.5839@sinix.UUCP>
	dhg@sinix.UUCP (David Griffith) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.124010.21440@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE>
>	meyergru@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Uwe Meyer-Gruhl) writes:
>>Honestly speaking: If someone needs more speed for perpetual access to the
>>same old files over and over again (like with TeXing), a ramdisk is not
>>the solution (at least for Unix users). It _is_ possible, though, to patch
>>/sdmach so that it uses more than the usual 16 buffers (128 K). I have 
>>configured my system to use 384 buffers (i.e. 3 MByte) and it works quite 
>>well with that setting.
>
>Wow! You Germans certainly know how to hack! Actually, if you're
>talking about the number of buffers in the buffer cache, then 16
>does seem way too low, at least on a normal Unix system (don't know
>about Mach though). Would you like to tell us what is required to
>increase this number? It's quite common to access the same old
>files over and over again - that after all is why you have a buffer
>cache.

Yes, please.  Post it.  I mean, people are alluvthetime posting
stuff on the net which is almost guaranteed to hose your system
("Oh, sure, I unplug and reconfigure my SCSI bus with the power on
all the time, go ahead, do it").  This sounds like something useful
with little chance of such hosery.  Quick&Dirty instructions for
using emacs to make the patch would be great fun.  Or, grab the
alphalock.c program and hack it to increase the buffers.  Or, send
the information to me and _I'll_ hack alphalock.c to do it :-).

Later,
--
scott hess <shess@ssesco.com>  <Who achieved programmer nirvana on Aug 11th>
12901 Upton Avenue South, #326  Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
   <Text: One Class to bring them all and in the darkness bind them ...>
From: nwc@blackbox.cc.columbia.edu (Nick Christopher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: UUCon .app, uucp monitor., at archives
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:07:52 GMT
Organization: Ronin Consulting, Inc.

By the end of day UUCon will be in /pub/next/submissions/UUCon.tar.Z

UUCon is just a front end to existing uucp monitoring commands. However it does
centralize them and it may use commands you were not aware of. I wrote it one
day to help me do the things I tend to do to maintain my link: queue, poll,
delete jobs.

It is NeXT uucp specific. If you have changed your uucp setup this app will
probably break.

To build is, "make install" to build it with uucp debugging capabilities, as
root "make INSTALLDIR=/LocalApps installSpecial".

Nicholas Christopher.
nwc@gun.com
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From: ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Subject: Re: Free Appsoft Draw
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 12:24:56 GMT

frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank) writes:

>In article <1992Aug17.055844.584@appsoft.com>  writes:
>> A fully functional copy of Appsoft Draw which you can authorize for 30 days  
>has  
>> been uploaded to the sonata.cc.purdue.edu archive under /pub/next/demos. 
>> 
>> Draw has been shipping for three months and is getting good reviews from  
>users.   
>> Chuck Hansen at Motorola writes that Appsoft Draw is "awesome."  
>> 
>> Independent designer Michael Bodily says, "Draw is easier to use  
>> than Illustrator.  It's perfect for corporate or in-house use."  NeXTWORLD  
>> magazine calls it "ideal as a basic drawing tool for both general users and  
>> professional illustrators."  
>> 
>> Find out for yourself.  Here's how it works.  You have to first download the  
>> AppsoftDraw.tar file and install it.  Then when you start your copy of Draw,  
>> you will be asked to call Appsoft, toll free, at 1-800-428-2777.  When you  
>call  
>> us and give us your serial number, we will give you an authorization number  
>on  
>> the spot which will turn on Draw for 30 days.  If you get stuck, consult the  
>> fully indexed Help files included with the application.  Or call us direct  
>and  
>> we will be happy to help you out.
>> 
>> Spread the word about  Appsoft Draw!  Feel free to give a copy of your demo  
>> disk to anybody else with a NeXT machine.  Enter the Appsoft Draw Art Contest  
>> described in the enclosed flier.  Send us your creations and you could win  
>free  
>> copies of Appsoft Draw and Appsoft Image, our new photo editing and image  
>> processing package due out in October.  Above all, tell us what you think  
>about  
>> the application.  We are always interested in feedback and suggestions.
>> 
>> Peter Seymour
>> Director of Sales
>> 
>> pseymour@appsoft.com
>> 
>> Appsoft, Inc.
>> 255 Shoreline Dr., Suite 520
>> Redwood City, CA 94065
>> 415 802-2900   fax   415 592-6043

>Nice, and now for some fire from abroad: (also mailed directly)

>Have you (AppSoft) fixed the damm problems with the "forreign" characters? I  
>WANT TO TYPE UMLAUTS! It won't work in AppsoftDraw - it worked in the last  
>release of Draw ...

>And: how doy you think we (from outside the USA) are to reach you at the 1-800  
>number??????? 

>-Robert
>--
>Robert Frank                         tel. + (061) 321 99 67                 
>Institut fuer Informatik             fax  + (061) 321 99 15                 
>University of Basel, Switzerland                                            
>Mittlere Strasse 142      rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)  
>CH-4056 Basel          X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
>                   ( if all fails try frank@urz.unibas.ch )

Re: 1-800 likewise here, perhaps a mail address can be set up as well, seems 
the simplest solution.

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From: tophat1!biernat (Timothy S. Biernat)
Subject: NewsGrazer Q
Reply-To: biernat@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:23:11 GMT

how can i setup my news groups to display only articles
containing specified keywords in the subject headings ?
(exactly the OPPOSITE of how the group filters operate -
no news is good news, remember ?)

thx in advance
--
Tim Biernat                         Internet:   biernat@rtsg.mot.com
Motorola Incorporated               UUCP:       ...uunet!motcid!biernat
Cellular Infrastructure Group       Voice:      (708) 632-4453

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From: jkatz@netcom.com (Joseph Katz)
Subject: Re: Looking for SoftVoice (voice synthesis) software
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:58:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <4545@rosie.NeXT.COM> bloschen@next.com (Brent Loschen) writes:
>In article <dillon.0kel@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US  
>(Matthew Dillon) writes:
>> 
>>     We've been searching around for something roughly equivalent to the
>>     Amiga's narrator device for the NeXT.  Essentially, something into
>>     which we can stuff plaintext (or phonemes) and which outputs a
>>     synthesized voice.
>> 
>

Since the Amiga's Text-to-Speech system is written in a combination of
C and 68000 flavor assembler, porting it to the NeXT would be fairly
straight forward.  The only involved part would be re-writing the 
synthesis kernal to run on the 56000 (not necessary but nice).  In
fact, given the NeXT hardware, an even more sophisticated model could
be run.  I know these things because I am one of the authors of the Amiga's
speech synthesizer.  Anyone from NeXT care to drop me a line? :).

--Joe Katz
jkatz@netcom.com
From: goldly@u.washington.edu (Lloyd P. Goldwasser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Communications program
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:11:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug14.221139.6222
Organization: University of Washington

Is there a moderately easy-to-use communications program floating around
that will let me use a modem to connect to the outside world?  I'd be
happy with something very simple, but find IComm's interface too limited
(even just scrolling and cut-and-paste would make a difference!).

Thanks,

Lloyd Goldwasser
goldly@u.washington.edu

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From: ctm@ardi.com (Clifford T. Matthews)
Subject: how to change # of columns in NS2.x send window
Organization: ARDI
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 04:48:55 GMT

Dear Folks,

	While you're waiting for NS3.0 to come out, you can change the
number of columns in a non-NeXTmail window by temporarily making it a
NeXTmail window, using Command-r (Show Ruler), and then setting the
send window back to non-NeXTmail.  The ruler remains and you can stretch
it out.

	--Cliff[ord T. Matthews]
	ctm@ardi.com
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From: cahalan@clouds.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Cahalan)
Subject: Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?---EqB?
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:29:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.023119.19334@lsa.umich.edu> Hal.Varian@umich.edu  
writes:
> In article <1992Aug17.213921.9430@athena.mit.edu>  
> ray@mtl.mit.edu (Ray Ghanbari) writes:
> > That having been said, we have been toying with the idea of  
> fleshing out  
> > our Matrix class so that it can form the basis of a legitimate  
> table  
> > editor (TableBuilder?) that does all the wonderful things that  
> one would  
> > hope for.  The only question we had was whether there really  
> was a need  
> > for this sort of thing.  Comments, wish lists, PO's??? :-)
> > 
> > Ray Ghanbari                                
> > Digital Tool Works
> > ray@dtw.com
> 
> I strongly encourage you to do this.  In fact, I spoke with one  
> of your representatives at the Mathematica convention in Boston  
> suggesting that this would be a great product.  A lot more  
> people produce tables than equations (for better or worse.)
> 
> Ideally, TableBuilder should be a palette object.  That way it  
> can be part of spreadsheets, stat packages, presentation  
> packages, publishing, etc., etc..  It should produce output in  
> EPS or in TeX.  You can sell the palette object, along with a  
> front end for it like EqB.
> ---
> Hal.Varian@umich.edu    Hal Varian
> voice: 313-764-2364     Dept of Economics
> fax:   313-764-2364     Univ of Michigan
>                         Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220

I second what Hal has said.  The only thing I would add is that, while  
there will be some non-EqB people wanting TableBuilder (TaB), EVERY user  
of EqB will also want TaB, especially if it outputs TeX.  Thus, you  
probably ought to provide a "package deal" and also an upgrade for current  
users of EqB, like me. 
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.*** NeXTMail accepted ***.....#..Greenbelt, MD 20771.............
.FAX: (301) 286-1627...........#..voice: (301) 286-4276...........
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From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: What DTP/WP do tables (other than Frame)?
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:51:44 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com

J.B. Nicholson-Owens writes
> The latest NeXTWORLD has a preview of PasteUp and says that it too
> doesn't do tables either.  Is there anything other than
> FrameMaker(even coming up) that will do tables?  How about Pages?

> If any app developers out there are planning to make a word processor
> or desktop publisher, please contact me so I can send you a wish list
> on tables and other topics.

We plan to work on tables for the next version of PasteUp.

Please feel free to send us a wish list for tables (or anything
else, for that matter).

--
 Glenn Reid        		NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
 RightBrain Software		415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
 Palo Alto, California
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