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From: dmor@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: JASON BOSKEY ahoy.
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:10:27 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh


  Sorry I couldn't e-mail you this reply, I hope you still get it.
  The address you are after is:
Lambourne Games
 8 Waters Avenue
  Carlton Colville
   Lowestoft
    Suffolk
     NR33 8BJ
      ENGLAND
  I Still cant find a price for Sport Of Kings, but a quick letter to them would get a
prompt reply.
  If you fancy phoning them their telephone number is:
(UK)-0502-562748
  
  As well as this Horse Racing game they do various others, such as:
Speedway Scene II: Motorcycle Speedway sim.
World Cup Ski-ing:
Championship Boxing:
Top Tennis:
International Road Racing: Running variety I beleive, not a motortsports game
County Championship: Cricket
Limited Overs: Cricket
Soccer Replay:
World Of International Athletics:
Grand Prix Re-Run:
Snooker Champion:
The Metric Mile:
Championship Golf:
Boxing For Gold:
Presure Putt Pro Golf:
Union & League: Rugby Football sim.
World Of Motor Racing: including Grand Prix, Le-mans, Indy, Bathurst etc
  
  I beleive they also act as agents for other companies in the US doing US Football,
Basketball, Baseball, etc.
  If you are at all interested in replay simulation games, computer or board, you
should ghet in touch with them.


  While Im here, does anyone else out there go to Speedway in the UK or am I the only
user of this system who carries out this absurd past-time.
  In fact, does anyone anywhere in the World go, I could do with someone to waffle
about the sport with.....

DAVI......
From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue (Bill ))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Trivia Answer #1
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:07:52 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  Question: What number did former president Gerald Ford wear when he played
            center for Michigan?

  Answer: 48

  bill

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From: jkokko@lk-hp-3.hut.fi (Jari Kokko)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Equal Offense Challenge results
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:14:54 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Distribution: inet
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The challenge match between the SBO billiard club of Otaniemi Finland
and the Weber State University of Utah, USA in the game of Equal
Offense was played at January 22nd 17.30 - 21.00 GMT.

The results are as follows:

SBO 294 - Weber State 304.
A tight match that was decided in the second last inning.

The individual scores are:

Weber State:				SBO:
------------------------------------	------------------------------------
Mike	12, 2, 14, 20, 3	= 51	Teppo	11, 7, 7, 15, 10	= 50
Chen	2, 5, 4, 12, 2		= 25	Jari	9, 18, 5, 9, 2		= 43
Dennis	5, 2, 5, 11, 7		= 30	Pat	3, 6, 3, 4, 4		= 20
Dave	6, 14, 4, 12, 8		= 44	Vesa	12, 0, 4, 5, 11		= 32
Sven	10, 2, 17, 10, 2 	= 41	Jussi	7, 2, 4, 7, 6		= 26
Darren	9, 3, 5, 2, 0		= 19	Mikko K	6, 2, 5, 13, 10		= 36
John	11, 3, 10, 1 ,6		= 31	Lari	1, 0, 1, 0, 12		= 14
Brandon	2, 10, 11, 2, 3		= 28	Petri	3, 3, 4, 3, 1		= 14
Brian	4, 1, 2, 3, 2		= 12	Mikko P	7, 6, 0, 8, 6		= 27
Jerry	9, 8, 0, 0, 6		= 23	Harri	0, 14, 6, 11, 1		= 32
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Total:				=304					=294

SBO congratulates the winning team!

Disclaimer: No luck, good or bad during the match was intentional, and no foul 
-- 
Jari Kokko.
From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue (Bill ))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Trivia Answer #8
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:18:57 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  Question: Do more NFL teams play their home games on natural or      
            artificial turf?
                    
  Answer: Artificial (15 to 13)

  Artificial = Minnesota, Detroit, Dallas, Philadelphia, New York (Giants),
               New Orleans, Atlanta, Indiana, New York (Jets), Buffalo,
               Kansas City, Seattle, Pittsburgh, Houston, Cincinatti

     Natural = Tampa Bay, Chicago, Green Bay, Washington, Phoenix, 
               San Fransisco, New England, Miami, San Diego, Denver, 
               Cleveland, Los Angeles (Raiders), Los Angeles (Rams)

  bill

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From: bersamin@td2cad.intel.com (Rich Bersamin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Roller Derby (a.k.a.  O'Connell Returns)
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:17:09 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation, Santa Clara, CA USA

I posted a similar article in rec.sport-pro-wrestling a month or so ago
but never got any feedback.  I dunno, it just seemed like the logical
thing to do.  Anyway, let's hope the people in this newsgroup are more
worldy.  

Does any one know what the status of Roller Derby (and I'm not talking
about awful copies like Roller Games and W.A.R) is??  I had read in USA
Today that (Mr. I.R.D.L) Jerry Seltzer was forming a new league but have
heard nothing else since (this article ran sometime early last year).
Since then I've herd of one skating exhibition in which one of the teams
had Ann Cavello.  Ms. Cavello was the subject of a local TV station spot
about her comeback.

Also, does anybody know about the wherabouts of "Mr. Roller Derby", 
Charlie O'Connell???  And does anyone know about the rumor that former
IRDL great Mike Gammon is affiliated with a rap star called MC Jammer??
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
From: thewitt@bnr.ca (Tony Hewitt P120)
Subject: Re: Badminton racquet strings
Keywords: Strings
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:57:53 GMT

Eddie Corns writes:
>Anyone have any opinions on what kind of strings are best or even a short
>table of what kinds of strings for what kind of player?  I've always used
>synthetics, generally better quality ones but you know I'm feeling really
>adventurous and maybe I should try gut or something on my imminent next
>restring.

>To anyone who followed the previous exciting thread about badminton and could
>be bothered wading through my message - I've had time to evaluate my Carlton
>powerflo open racquet and I think it's just dandy.

I have used  several  differnt  stings and have found that ASHWAY make
the best  synthetic  strings.  I have heard that several of the top US
players  also  use it.  The  reason  I use it is  because  it is  very
durable.  I have a pretty  hard smash  (tooting my own horn) and broke
many  strings  before  I  started  using  ASHWAY.  At first I used the
ASHWAY XT21 and then newer  FLEX21.  As the name implies they are both
21 gauge.  The  FLEX21, if I remember  right, is a  three-ply  string.
Because they are so durable I have started  increasing  the tension on
my strings from 16-17 to 18-19lbs.

I think the price of the FLEX21 is US$4.95, but badminton supplies are 
cheap here (a Yonex Carbonex21 cost ~US$80).

New topic:
Anyone else concerned/happy about the proposal (by the IBF) to change
tournament format from 3-games-to-15 to 5-games-to-9??!!??  Apparently
it is to make the game more TV-applicable.

Tony Hewitt, Raleigh NC, USA
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From: dennis@uci.edu (DENNIS SIPES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Re: Roller Derby (a.k.a.  O'Connell Returns)
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:22:50 GMT
Organization: UC Irvine

In article <C1DpwM.KI1@inews.Intel.COM> bersamin@td2cad.intel.com (Rich Bersamin) writes:

>I posted a similar article in rec.sport-pro-wrestling a month or so ago
>but never got any feedback.  I dunno, it just seemed like the logical
>thing to do.  Anyway, let's hope the people in this newsgroup are more
>worldy.  

>Does any one know what the status of Roller Derby (and I'm not talking
>about awful copies like Roller Games and W.A.R) is??  I had read in USA
>Today that (Mr. I.R.D.L) Jerry Seltzer was forming a new league but have
>heard nothing else since (this article ran sometime early last year).
>Since then I've herd of one skating exhibition in which one of the teams
>had Ann Cavello.  Ms. Cavello was the subject of a local TV station spot
>about her comeback.

>Also, does anybody know about the wherabouts of "Mr. Roller Derby", 
>Charlie O'Connell???  And does anyone know about the rumor that former
>IRDL great Mike Gammon is affiliated with a rap star called MC Jammer??
I answered the first post in the wrestling newsgroup but had no current
info on any of the skaters. It's a shame that the Derby died. If anyone
out there ever saw the great Charlie O'Connell skate, they saw the greatest
to ever grace the banked track. None of the nonsense that the Roller Games
(T-Birds, Warriors, etc) put on. Great skating, great action. I would think
it would make a comeback due to the current popularity of in-line skating.
Maybe they would use the roller-blade stlye skates this time around. Anyway,
there must a a ton of people back in the NY area, Chicago area as well as
the SF Bay Area who remember the Derby and Charlie. 
						Charlie O fan
From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue (Bill ))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Trivia Answer #7
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:17:29 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  Question: Who said: "Nowadays all kids think about is money. When I     
            was a kid all I thought about was eatin'."
                    
  Answer: William "Refrigerator" Perry

  bill

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From: zoh1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Chunae Zoh)
Subject: Re: Korfball in the United States
Keywords: Korfball
Reply-To: zoh1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:41:29 GMT

what's korfball?
From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue (Bill ))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Trivia Answer #10
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:22:01 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  Question: In what SuperBowl games was the infamous "bowl warning" issued?      
            FYI: Harvey Schultz, then commissioner of the Department of
            Environment Protection suggested that SuperBowl viewers should 
            can, or at least curb, their trips to the john so that the
            city's water system wouldn't be under too much pressure. This
            was of course a media prank.
                    
  Answer: SuperBowl XXI (Giants vs Broncos) in New York City

  bill

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From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue (Bill ))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Trivia Answer #2
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:09:42 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!


  Question: The Redskins and Giants played the highest scoring game in NFL  
            history in 1966. What was the outcome?

  Answer: Redskins 72, Giants 41

  bill

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From: jcampbel@metz.une.edu.au (MR J CAMPBELL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: help - high shots
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:13:05 GMT
Reply-To: jcampbel@metz.une.edu.au
Originator: jcampbel@metz.une.edu.au

From article <1993Jan20.203836.26454@ncsu.edu>, by ksb@adm.csc.ncsu.edu (Kelvin S. Bryant):
> I hate to rehash this question again (it was discussed a few
> months ago), but I hit excessively high shots.  I can't hit
> a 3-iron beyond 170 yds (but it flies a mile high and almost
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> stops on a dime).  When it is windy or when I need more distance
> I am cooked.  I'm still a high handicapper and try to stay away
> from woods.  I play the ball off the inside heel of my left foot.
> I've played around with moving it futher back in my stance but 
> that does not seem to help.  How high should a 3-iron send the
> ball?  I send it no less than 50 or 60 feet.

Kelvin if you can't get a 3 iron out there past 170 yards (155 metres) then
I think there is something else amiss in addition to your ball traj.

I play a 3 from 200 out (metres = 220 yards) and whilst I guess I am
resonably long I still have no trouble stopping them (although I do play 
balata). You metion your shag ball problem so it seems that you practice
regularly so the only thing I can say is see a professional. The high 
ball is favoured by most touring pros and is by no means a bad thing 
although I think your lack of distance is a bit of a concern. You do not 
mention if you play a fade/draw as your stock shot so the only thing I can 
think of is that you must have a very upright swing plane and a narrow
swing arc leading to a sharp impact rather than a sweeping long iron action.
Again as I said best to see a pro. Best of luck.

		Good Golfing
		Cheers Cambo		jcampbel@metz.une.edu.au
From: templin@grayling.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Fred Templin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: putting technique - hands pressed forward?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 22:07:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grayling.cs.berkeley.edu

Hello,

I'm trying to incorporate some advice from Tom Kite's book into
my game. Kite recommends that the hands should be pressed slightly
forward (toward the target) to de-loft the putterface and produce
a truer roll. Kite claims that most putters are slightly lofted
(1-2 degrees) and pressing your hands forward squares the face and
starts the ball out rolling instead of skidding or sliding. (I've
seen others refer to this as a "freindly roll".)

But, now that I've decided to try this, my putting game seems to
have gone to h*ll. I'm not finding the line as well as I did with
my old stroke, and every once in a while I mis-hit the ball and
get random results. But, when I do stroke it well, I seem to get
good pace on the puts even from longer distances. My question is,
do most of you better golfers out there actually press your hands
slightly forward at address? Since putting has always been my strong
suit, am I making a mistake by trying to fix something that's not
necessarily broken? Finally, should I stick with it and work out
the bugs or fall back to my old stroke in which I had my hands
perpendicular or slightly back of the ball? Thanks,

Fred 
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From: "James F. Tims" <p00168@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: What's gone wrong?
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:02:35 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

>DATE:   Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:29:43 GMT
>FROM:   Keith Armstrong <se03@titus.nextlab.cs.qub.ac.uk>
>
>Last summe, I played a round of golf at one of the best courses in  
>Northern Irelands best golf courses - Malone Golf Club in 80 shots - +8.
>
>This is the course where Billy Casper played recently in the European  
>Seniors Tour and shot a 75, so an 80 is pretty good.  Since then however  
>(the summer) I have steadily gotten worse - shooting a 99 last week.
>
>What I can't understand is why!!  I seem to have forgotten my swing  

[Shanking...delete!]
>
[A savage attack of the Fatosis.]

Doesn't take long for these twin afflictions to stack on a lot of shots!

So you seem to have a strong game, basically, and you give 2 clues:

1) Shanks
2) Fat shots.

These both can result from allowing the right shoulder to come forward to
"help" the shot.  There are lots of reasons for this, but in a 
good player I would guess: 1) insufficient kneeflex 2) bending too much at
the waist, or 3) "helping" the shot with the right shoulder.  All three 
make it difficult to maintain a steady head.

When you come through the hitting area, try and keep the shoulders more 
square to the line with good left side extension at the ball.  Helping 
with the right can cause dipping down (fat) or tipping toward the ball 
(shank).  

Take an imaginary impact position with fully extended left side.  
Your shoulders should align with the swing line or slightly left (for 
RHs), while the hips are open.  If the left shoulder points too far 
left, then you are likely letting the right shoulder become too involved 
in hitting the ball.

I guess the oldest tip I know that deals with this is, "Stand tall 
through impact."  When the right shoulder comes forward to hit the shot, 
it's more like "Squat, spin, dive or bow."


-jim
From: wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: putting technique - hands pressed forward?
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:45:54 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1k4cmu$qbd@agate.berkeley.edu> templin@grayling.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Fred Templin) writes:
>Hello,
>
>I'm trying to incorporate some advice from Tom Kite's book into
>my game. Kite recommends that the hands should be pressed slightly
>forward (toward the target) to de-loft the putterface and produce
>a truer roll. Kite claims that most putters are slightly lofted
>(1-2 degrees) and pressing your hands forward squares the face and
>starts the ball out rolling instead of skidding or sliding. (I've
>seen others refer to this as a "freindly roll".)

I think the only putters that need delofting are ones (Pings in
general) which contain a lot of loft; some as high as 4 degrees.
One thing pressing your hands a *slight* bit does for you is make
sure you get the ball to the hole.  It's really hard to leave a 
6-footer short this way.  Lots of those go in.

>But, now that I've decided to try this, my putting game seems to
>have gone to h*ll. I'm not finding the line as well as I did with
>my old stroke, and every once in a while I mis-hit the ball and
>get random results. But, when I do stroke it well, I seem to get
>good pace on the puts even from longer distances. My question is,
>do most of you better golfers out there actually press your hands
>slightly forward at address? Since putting has always been my strong
>suit, am I making a mistake by trying to fix something that's not
>necessarily broken? Finally, should I stick with it and work out
>the bugs or fall back to my old stroke in which I had my hands
>perpendicular or slightly back of the ball? Thanks,

Generally, you stick with what works, but I really like this technique.
A couple of things that might be messing you up:
   (1) You probably aren't keeping the face square when you press 
       forward.  It's pretty easy to close or open it this way.  Try
       putting 2-footers by pushing the ball all the way to the hole.
       That should cure your line troubles.
   (2) Your mis-hitting might be caused by bringing the head off the 
       ground too far.  With the hands forward the tendency is to
       bring the head up on the backswing. You ought to be able to
       stack 2 quarters 4-6 inches behind the head and knock off the
       top one on the backswing.

Good luck!

Jeff         wayman@lamar.colostate.edu
From: 92637966s@sgcl1.unisg.ch
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Any Golf Schools in West Palm Beach??
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:19:00 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland


Hy everyone,

From feb20 to feb25 I will spend my time in West Palm Beach. For this
time I am still looking for a golf school that lasts about 3 or 4 days.

I have heard about 2 schools in the Palm Beaches Area:

- Video Golf School of William Caudill
- South Florida Golf Academy (south of Boca Raton)

Does anybody know these Golf Schools and could give me his opinion on them.

Are there any other good Golf Schools in the area? I am very thankful for
any recomendations!!

Also, but less important: Are there any Golf courses you would consider 
a "must" while spending some time in the West Palm Beaches Area?

Thanks a lot,

Christian Pirkner
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: dil@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Perry G Ramsey)
Subject: Re: Golf Balls
Organization: Purdue University, Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:43:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.144733.3195@mixcom.com> Thomas.Jenquin <Thomas.Jenquin@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>What I'd like to see is a golf ball with an electronic homing beacon that can
>be turned on at the start of the round and off at the end.  It could have an


Good idea.  So good that it's already been done.  
So good that the USGA outlawed them.  I guess they figured if
you can't find it the old fashioned way, you deserve to take your lumps.

I haven't seen any for sale in a long time, which is expected.  When the
USGA outlaws something for competitive play, the manufacturers stop making it,
even though regular joes might still want one for hacking around the home
course.
-- 
Perry G. Ramsey         Department of Earth and Atmospheric Sciences
dil@mace.cc.purdue.edu  Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN USA
perryr@purccvm         
N9LFF                   "Jest not with a craven duck."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: tjg2946@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: NEW PLAYER
Reply-To: tjg2946@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:15:12 GMT

Hehe, I would love to have you guys tutor me.  I will check on who is
teaching this class here at college.  Talk to ya guys later (and gals if there
is any here.
From: templin@grayling.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Fred Templin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: What's gone wrong?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:39:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grayling.cs.berkeley.edu
Keywords: What's gone wrong?

I don't consistently score in the low 80's Keith, but the way you
describe your problem sounds exactly like what happened to me a few
months ago. I probably can't offer you any real good advice, but I
can say that I was able to work through the "funk" I had gotten into
and get my game back on track. The fact that you've shot well in the
past probably means that you're only in a temporary setback which
you'll be able to work through before too long. Just don't give up
and try to go easy on yourself! :-)

Fred

P.S. I *like* your prediction for super sunday!
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