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From: jfy@cis.ksu.edu (Joseph F. Young)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star Trek story archive (weekly FAQ -- automated posting)
Followup-To: alt.startrek.creative
Date: 27 Dec 1992 11:59:12 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu
Summary: Description of archive of ST stories and how to access it
Keywords: Stories, FTP, Mail Server, ST, TNG

Last updated: 18 Dec 92

------------------------------FTP--------------------------------------
I've seen many inquiries about an anonymous ftp archive for the
stories that appear in alt.startrek.creative.  As others have
mentioned, I maintain an archive on ftp.cis.ksu.edu (129.130.10.80) in
the directory /pub/alt.startrek.creative.  All files are compressed using
the ZIP format, used by INFO-ZIP's "zip" and "unzip" and PK-WARE's "pkzip"
and "pkunzip" programs, among others.
Programs, both in binary and source form, to handle this format are available
on other archive sites.
If you cannot find a program to handle ZIP files, use the
archive mail server described below.

If you find a story that I've missed, especially any of the ones that
appeared early in the life of this group or in the rec.arts.startrek.*
groups, mail it to me (jfy@cis.ksu.edu) or upload it to /pub/upload on
the archive site.

If you have any contributions to the archive, suggestions, etc. you
may also email them to me.

-----------------------------Mail--------------------------------------
For all those unfortunates who don't have Internet ftp access, I've
setup a mailserver to provide access to the archives on
ftp.cis.ksu.edu.

This mailserver can be contacted via mail one of the following
addresses:

...!rutgers!depot!mailserver  (UUCP)
mailserver@cis.ksu.edu        (Internet)

The server accepts commands given in the body of the mail messages;
help is available with the command "help".  

A listing of the files in
the story archive may be obtained by "dir -l /pub/alt.startrek.creative".

Since the story archive consists of ZIP files, they must
be uuencoded before they are sent on their way.  To specify this mode,
use the command "encode uuencode"  To retrieve the files, use the
"send" command (ex:  send /pub/alt.startrek.creative/story/tng/TheMoralsOfWar.zip

If you have a system which cannot handle ZIP files, you may use
the "unzip" filter ("encode unzip") 
which will send you the uncompressed (but not uuencoded) version of the file.

Here is an example mail message:

% Mail mailserver@cis.ksu.edu
Subject: request 
help
encode uue     
send /pub/alt.startrek.creative/story/tng/TheMoralsOfWar.zip
^D
%

Please note that this is completely experimental and is not bug free.
Questions and problems about this mailserver may be directed to
"mailserver-reply@cis.ksu.edu".



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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: dascoser@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (david serchay)
Subject: Need stories
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:55:38 GMT

I lost several stories. Could someone e-mail me the following
1. All the leaptrek stories
2. the Dr who/Trek and Dr. Who/TNG stories
3. Dwarf Trek

Thanks

Dascoser
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From: max@west.darkside.com (Erik Max Francis)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Star Trek Universe and Enterprise crew
Date: 23 Dec 92 08:01:28 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

rsr4936@cc.utah.edu (Reay, Robert S.) writes:

> Not only is this a problem, but also if inter-cultural/racial marriages are 
> so bloody common (O'Brian/Keiko for example, not to mention inter-species 
> marriages) then there would be no more colors!  People after 4 or 5 
> centuries of intermarrying would incorporate all distinguishing racial 
> features until all people looked the same, because they would all have 
> ancestors from all colors and cultures.

I had considered this (primarily for my own evil science-fiction-writing 
purposes), and it doesn't hold up.  While everyone may be happy with 
interracial relationships (I am a member of one), it doesn't mean that 
_everyone_ is.  Lots of people are not disgusted by the idea of an 
interracial relationship, but would not be in one themselves; they prefer 
members of their own race, whatever it may be.  It is a matter of a 
personal preference and not prejudice necessarily.  Anyhow, there will 
always be small pockets of fairly pure races.  Especially considering the 
history of the human race, even general acceptance of interracial couples 
may not be terribly soon-to-come . . .


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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: billma@utoday.com (Bill Mallon)
Subject: Re: Star Trek Universe and Enterprise crew
Reply-To: billma@utoday.com (Bill Mallon)
Organization: CMP Publications, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 15:50:31 GMT
Keywords: ethnic 

In article <1992Dec21.165333.9701@ils.nwu.edu>, dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald 
Bora) writes:

>they do have minorities but the crew is predominantly white and the earth is 
> not....attempts have been made to introduce non-cauc type life forms to the 
> idealistic make up of the universe but these are few and far between.
> 
> This is a serious inquiry not intended to star a flame war, we are merely
> curious.  Is it perhaps restricted by the availability of non-white actors?
>
> Donald F. Bora....

IMHO, *Yes*, the limited availability of non-white actors, writers, directors, et al.
(Although I'd think that they'd be more available NOW than they were in 1966!)

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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Subject: Star Trek Universe and Enterprise crew
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:53:33 GMT



Question to all:

   We were wondering... if Star Trek is set in the 25th century and there
is implied global peace, why is this not reflected in the ethnic distribution
of the Enterprise crew? Yes, they do have minorities but the crew
is predominantly white and the earth is not.  This inquiry extends to the
alien/Caucasian distribution of the Enterprise universe.  We realize
that attempts have been made to introduce non-cauc type life forms to the
idealistic make up of the universe but these are few and far between.

This is a serious inquiry not intended to star a flame war, we are merely
curious.  Is it perhaps restricted by the availability of non-white actors?



			thanks...


	
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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: petitc@nuge104.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Star Trek Universe and Enterprise crew
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:12:38 GMT

dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) writes:



[ Question about how few non-whites are seen on the E. deleted ]

>This is a serious inquiry not intended to star a flame war, we are merely
>curious.  Is it perhaps restricted by the availability of non-white actors?

 Now wouldn't THAT be ironic.  If problems in THIS world prevented us from
showing an ideal IMAGINARY world.  :&P

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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: kennyy@microsoft.com (Kenny Young)
Subject: Re: Data's First Christmas
Date: 29 Dec 92 02:37:46 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

>	I seemed to have missed this... could someone(read one!  I only 
>need one copy) please send it to me.  Thanks so much.
>
>Brian

how about posting this one?

dana
kennyy@microsoft.com

Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.tech
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Subject: Re: Star Trek Universe and Enterprise crew
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:25:53 GMT

In article <21DEC199215444330@cc.utah.edu> rsr4936@cc.utah.edu (Reay, Robert S.) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.165333.9701@ils.nwu.edu>, dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora) writes...
>Not only is this a problem, but also if inter-cultural/racial marriages are 
>so bloody common (O'Brian/Keiko for example, not to mention inter-species 
>marriages) then there would be no more colors!  People after 4 or 5 
>centuries of intermarrying would incorporate all distinguishing racial 
>features until all people looked the same, because they would all have 
>ancestors from all colors and cultures.

	I wonder about this.

	This might hold true if there was forced interbreeding of all
ethnic types.

	But given the way people act in the real world, I'd have to think
that ethnic types will still persist even after 10 generations.


-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
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with the cast of a musical revue."
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Subject: Re: Star Trek Universe and Enterprise crew
Keywords: ethnic 
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:06:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.155031.27207@utoday.com> billma@utoday.com (Bill Mallon) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.165333.9701@ils.nwu.edu>, dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald 
>Bora) writes:
>>they do have minorities but the crew is predominantly white and the earth is 
>> not
>> This is a serious inquiry not intended to star a flame war, we are merely
>> curious.  Is it perhaps restricted by the availability of non-white actors?
>IMHO, *Yes*, the limited availability of non-white actors, writers, directors, et al.
>(Although I'd think that they'd be more available NOW than they were in 1966!)

	They ARE.

	But most casting directors are white. And they don't seem to get it
through their pointed little heads that you CAN use a non-white actor
in a part that DOESN'T specifically say "black", "Asian", "Hispanic", etc.


-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
	"The definition of balls is for a non-singer to go karaoke singing
with the cast of a musical revue."
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: jsmcgi01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Help needed with storyline idea
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 20:08:43 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <emm.725331835@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au>, emm@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Wendigo) writes:
> I have an idea for a ST:TNG story line involving a meeting with
> the aliens from the Aliens movies, and I was wanting some information
> that could be relevent to the story.  (Yes, this is a crossover)
> 
> First, some of my ideas of things that will occur in the story:
> 1) A Starfleet ship will be invaded by the Aliens, loosing all bar
>    one crewmember...
> 2) The Enterprise will discover a Borg ship that has been massacared
>    and is completely dead...
> 3) At least one major character has got to die.  I've already decided
>    but I'm not telling you who  :-)  (I bet Rez could guess, couldn't
>    you?  Don't do so out loud thought :-) )
> 
> I'm tossing up two titles for the story, either "Uninvited Guests"
> or "Ko-by Oshi Maru" (sp?  Spelt if more or less phonetically here)
> 
> Theres are few other details that I've thought of already which I wont
> post now, so as not to spoil the story too much if it ever gets written.
> 
> I would like a bit of technical information about some things in the
> StarTrek and Aliens universe before I go on:
> 1) How exactly are you suspose to spell "Ko-by Oshi Maru"?
> 2) About the U.S.S. Enterprise:
>    a) What is the class of ship.
>    b) What is the number of the ship.
>    c) How many people are on the ship.
>    d) How many children are on the ship.
> 3) About the U.S.S. Hood:
>    a) Anything known or mentioned about this ship in the ST:TNG series?
>    b) The class of the ship.
>    c) The number of the ship.
>    d) How many people are on the ship.
>    e) Any biographical material about her crew that is available.
> 4) In StarTrek VI, the president of the United Federation of Planets was
>    an alien with all white hair and white or blue eyes (I can't remember)
>    I also remember seeing another of that race in StarTrek IV on one
>    of the ships disabled be the probe.
>    Any and all information available about that race would be helpful.
> 5) Any and all information about the Alien race could proove helpful.
>    i.e. Is there actually a name for the race?
>         A home planet?
>         How great is their intellegence?  Just above an animal cunning?
>           Or greater?
I remember reading a ST:TNG/Alien crossover about two years ago.  'Twas pretty
good.
2a.)  Galaxy Class, 
2b.)  NCC 1701-D,
2c.)  About 1000,
2d.)  varies.
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: uubrian@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (BRIAN BENTZ)
Subject: Re: Data's First Christmas
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Dec 1992 08:52 EST  

	I seemed to have missed this... could someone(read one!  I only 
need one copy) please send it to me.  Thanks so much.

Brian

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From: seth.hutchins@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Seth Hutchins) 
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Help needed with stor
Date: 29 Dec 92 09:10:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: seth.hutchins@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Seth Hutchins) 

Captain Wendigo hailed All on Stardate {12-26-92  16:09}

 We> I'm tossing up two titles for the story, either "Uninvited Guests"
 We> or "Ko-by Oshi Maru" (sp?  Spelt if more or less phonetically here)

 It's Kobyashi Maru as I understand it.
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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: patrick@nadia.stgt.sub.org (Patrick Mailaender)
Subject: Vulcan languageguide
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:19:00 GMT
Organization: Stuttgart Net Systems, FRG
Keywords: vulcan
Summary: startrek fan is looking for something


Hi folks,
I'm searching for the vulcan-language-guide. Does somebody where I can get it or does anybody have it?? Pleasy answer!! It's urgent!!
CU Patrick

 
??
















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From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: CHRISTMAS PRESENT: TOP 10 Lines from the latest START TREK movie
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:24:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


This is pilfered from the Lte Night w/Letterman book of Top Ten Lists-
copyrighted etc.  I thought people out in the InternetLand would appreciate
it.  

TOP TEN LINES FROM THE LATEST STAR TREK MOVIE:
10. Captain!  There's a horrible life form on your head! Oh, sorry, it's your 
    hairpiece.
9. Surprise! Those aren't dilithium crystals-- They're folger's crystals!
8. DAmn it Jim!  I'm a doctor-- not a very good actor!
7. Don't let Kirk show you what he calls "the Captain's log"
6. Computer Analysis of the tape indicates it really is Rob Lowe
5. Gez- I'm sick of you guys
4. It's been a century sonce they changed your planet's name from Earth to Trump
3. Oh Yeah?  Well beam this up, pal!
2.  What the hell is Don King doing here?
1. Screw the Final Frontier!  Let's go see Batman.

(yep, some of this stuff is dated... )
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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: rez@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Anestis Kozakis <Rez>)
Subject: Re: none
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:50:00 GMT

In <92Dec17.121642est.47888@neat.cs.toronto.edu> fpitt@cs.toronto.edu (Francois Pitt) writes:
who are you?
I'm Bart Simpson. Who the hell are you?
So I'm Captain Jean-Luc Piccard
"Lt. Worf take this 'Bart Simpson' to the brig"
OK, I'm Riker: "What the hell's going on over there?!"
What the heck, I'm Troi:  "I sense great sarcasm..."
Q: "Hello, Jean-Luc, how'd you like my 'Bart Simpson'?"
Wesley: "Gee, Captain Picard, I just figured out a way to get rid of Q forever..."
Worf: "Growl! Captain, that is not honorable. If Wesley gets to get rid of Q, 
I get to get rid of Wesley!  I asked first - you remember? 
Back in the first season?"
Troi:  Oh please, Worf.  You couldn't shoot the broad side of a Ferrengi, let
alone beat up Wesley....
O'Brian: "That does it, I am beaming you all into space and appointing myself
Captain Miles..."
Geordie:  Enough!  I'm transferring all Warp, Impulse, APR,
and life support power into the holodeck for my new
"Wild Wanda and her Wanton Whips" program.  The rest of
you can suck cold vacuum.
Barkley: "Hey I helped program that, can I come in too????"
Wesley:  Hey! I programmed Wanda's Whips---you know, just the way you like it?
Troi:  Geordie, your Star Fleet Battles training is showing.   I also sense
great perversions....
"Oh, boy..."
Troi:  I sense a great mind.  A mind from the past.  Someone who as lived
many lives, leaping from one to another....I also sense cigar smoke...
"I sense a small explosive that is tuned to detonate the next time Troi says '
I sense...'"  (Cheers are heard from the audience)
Troi:  I sense great stupidity.   
[We hear squealing sounds of a dying bomb---the bad joke killed it]
Piccard: Computer start self-destruct sequence.  This has gone too far!
Riker: NO the first officer does not concuur, I have taken orders from some
balding shakspearian throwback long enough, I'm taking over; worf set phasers
on kill and terminate the captain. 
[cheers are heard from the crew and audience as Picard dies in a show of 
expensive special effects]
Meanwhile, Bart, unnoticed by everyone else, had started fiddling with the
transporter, and Lore has been beamed on board...
Lore: Well, if it isn't my "good friends"...
Computer, terminate all life support!!
At the same time, Scotty has come back aboard, as he had forgotten his
toothbrush on the Enterprise.
Scotty: I cannae change the laws of physics Captain. I cannae give you
any more power, or else the engines'll overload!
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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.tech
From: sdrumm@cs.umr.edu (Scott Drumm)
Subject: Re: Help needed with storyline idea
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:32:08 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO

>ST, I think you could build a infantry force on the scale of Heilein's
>_Starship_Troopers_.  I think the Aliens from the movie are kind of like
>the "bugs" in _Starship_Troopers_, too. (flame away :-) )

Starship Troopers was one of the first SciFi books I ever read...It was a 
copy of my father's when he was in college...I think this is a great idea!

Altho StarFleet claims to be a an exploration and peace-keeping force, it 
would almost have to have a ground assault division in order to fulfill it's
martial duties (even if it's just like the UN PeaceKeepers).

A couple of suggestions for you....
	- Remember to expand the weapons available to the ground forces...
	  Phaser I's are good for away teams, but a commando group should have
	  phaser rifles, heavy repeating phaser cannons, personal deflector
	  shields, photon (antimatter) grenades & missiles, vibroblades, etc.
	- Don't overuse the transporters...If I were threatened w/ orbital
	  assualt, the first thing I would do would be to set up a forcefield
	  around my base of operations that would deny transporter access (or
	  at least jam the beam so that anything beaming down ended up as goo).
	- Ground troops might also require heavy armored support...Grav Tanks,
	  repulsorlift APC's, etc....Maybe a little Hammer's Slammer's might
	  help here.
	- Don't underestimate the power of an orbiting starship (bet you
	  thought I was going to say Force, eh - grin).  The Enterprise's
	  phaser banks are probably accurate enough to boil a cup of coffee
	  from orbit...Ground forces need to move FAST, and KEEP moving.

On the Bounce Soldier! 


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