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From: speterse%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (soren--Ms. Jackson if you're nasty)
Subject: Re: Million Year Picnic in Boston - Fire
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:31:41 MST
Keywords: Fire
Organization: The Erland Cult

In article <1992Nov22.180300.883@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:

>There are probably others who make it a practice to visit and learn about
>the better comic stores in various American cities, and they probably are
>interested in the fate of a fairly well-known comic store like MYP.  

Like, for instance, myself.  I actually *enjoy* these local threads, as it's
a great way to find out what the rest of the world is like, what expectations
other comics fans have about their local stores, and (yes) where to go if I 
ever find myself in Boston.

Occasionally, the threads get out of hand, but this particular one hasn't.
Please keep the distribution set where it is.

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From: mgq@inel.gov (Michael G McKellar)
Subject: Re: Fast Forward
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 15:20:49 GMT

In article <BxoK3D.IDF@cs.uiuc.edu> wesselak@suna0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak) writes:
>In two words:  Arkham Asylum.  But let's not get into that again.  Also, I
>disdained his work on Legends of the Dark Knight.  But his fill-in on Hell-
>blazer, on the other hand, wasn't that bad, so I guess I should be a little
>more tolerant...(probably because Hellblazer is the only place where Morrison's
>complete lack of a sence of continuity fits in...)
>
>Erik
>-- 
For good Grant Morrison stuff try:
Doom Patrol since issue #19.  
Kid Eternity mini series.
Dare (This is a grim and gritty version of Dan Dare's last adventure)
Animal Man issues 1-?



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From: Omega.Man@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Omega Man)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: SPEAKING OF SPIDERS...
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:02:41 GMT

...was it ever revealed just what TYPE of spider bit Peter Parker?

Seems to me we've got an untold origin story in the making here...


                                                OM
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: DC: Re: How was ROBIN 3000?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:36:51 GMT

mkelly@dumpster.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly):
>What I hated about the book: Idiotic editors who put asterisks in to explain
>that ETA is Estimated Time of Arrival, but who ignore things like "prosthesis"
>"cloning" "hyperspace" etc.

Be reasonable.  'ETA' is a fairly arbitrary acronym.  If you hadn't heard
it elsewhere, you'd be unlikely to guess.  On the other hand, it only
takes logic and a basic grasp of the language to realize that 'prosthesis'
is the opposite of 'antithesis', and so forth.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
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From: krupski@ravel.udel.edu (James John Krupski)
Subject: Doomsday - Despero's long-lost brother?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:58:12 GMT

Has anyone else noticed this?  Except for their complexions (and Despero's 
forehead-fin), they could be the same guy.  Even their battles with the
JLA seem similar.  Neither had any difficulty taking out Wally West.  
Etc., etc.
So maybe Manga Khan shaved his fin, painted him gray and threw him back?
Or maybe:
   "Well, then, who do we get to kill Superman?  It'd have to be somebody   
big and strong---hey, how about that character from _Breakdowns_?"

Doomsday isn't the Hulk and he isn't Lobo.  He's Despero with a name change.

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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: I'm not buying Superman #75!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:22:12 GMT

akhale@pollux.usc.edu (Abhijit Khale):
>Later on, he really lacked the strength to try something like throwing or 
>carrying Doomsday far away (which second he did try and failed). He was 
>so wasted he could barely fly or use his super-speed for a while. 

I'm-super-strong-so-I've-got-traction is one of the convenient
cliches of the genre.  Virtually any standard-superhero fistfight
(unless the fighters make an effort to come to grips) should result
in the fighters taking turns being tossed over the horizon or into
orbit, with minimal damage.  Not *routinely* using super-speed
is another convenient cliche:  It's hard enough making most of
his foes a challenge as it is.  I guess you could say that Superman
died as he lived.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
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From: d-yang@cs.columbia.edu (David Yang)
Subject: Re: Brainstorm: How DC will bring Superman back from the dead
Keywords: Ressurection Central
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:28:25 GMT

From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
> 
> Jerry Boyajian (namedropping? moi?) and I were sitting around last night,
> and we figured out how DC (specifically, Warners) would bring Supes back
> from the dead:
> 
>     Supergirl (or Matrix, or whateverthehellhernameis) will fly around
>     the Earth until it rotates in the other direction and reverses time.
> 
> Damn!  I love continuity!

The NY Times asked a bunch of people this very question-- the
results are in last Sunday (11/15)'s Arts & Leisure section (section 2),
p. 25.  A number of the ideas are base on old stuff from "Dallas"
(it was a dream), general soap operas (Supes, weakened by kryptonite,
goes over the cliff in a car-- it turns out he managed to get out of
the car in time), Alan Moore (Stan Lee suggesting Clark Kent, Jr.),
and Grant Morrison (Ralph Bakshi commenting that Supes lives as long
as he's being drawn).  The better ideas:

from Cheri and Bill Steinkeller and Phoef Sutton,
executive producers of the CBS series "Bob":
Supes has been studying with a Zen master in the Fortress of Solitude
"how to slow his heartbeat to one beat per minute in preparation
 for that shocking moment when he will burst forth from his closed
 casket and scream, `Surprise, Lois,' thus revealing that unique
 Kryptonian sense of humor no one really wanted to know about."

from Mark Leyner, author of "Et Tu, Babe":
The Pentagon or some biotech company have stored some of Superman's
stem cells and will just grow a new one, who "should be put on a
kryptonite-reinforced, caged treadmill and forced to run perpetually
to generate electricity for the Earth's people.  It would be clean,
inexpensive energy and would provide a psychologically beneficial
spectacle for people who need to see celebrities humbled and put
to work."

and from Dave Barry:
"I think Superman should go on the Larry King show and announce
that he would come back to life if people in all 50 states wanted
him to."
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From: teo33398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor Zero)
Subject: Re: The writer, Harlan Ellison
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:01:01 GMT

YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:

>   _Vic and Blood: The Chronicles of a Boy and His Dog_
>      contains adaptations of three stories "Eggsucker", "A Boy and His Dog",
>and "Run Spot Run"; 2 issues (No.1 published in 1987; No.2 in 1988) published
>by Mad Dog Graphics.  Art by Richard Corben.

	I read this.  Was this the same Richard Corben that did _Den_???  The
art was much different than what I was used to seeing...
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From: kllove@wildcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love)
Subject: Re: Deathstroke--> I knew it!!!!, I knew it!!!!
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:50:52 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA


Okay, that explains Checkmate (a little bit anyway).

Now who is Cheshire?  The woman in the latest Deathstroke was completely
new to me.  However, they talked like they had met long ago.

RE: Wintergreen
What is this prison he is in?  Didn't they show a glimpse of it already?

                                                  adTHANKSvance,
                                                  Kenneth Love
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: DC: Superman's death coverage
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:29:19 GMT

c60b-3fe@e260-3f.berkeley.edu (Coffee) writes:
>Or, it could be the Flying Pig.  Whose job it is to ease the monotony
>of standing in long lines throughout the world!!!
>Hee hee heeeee.  Ho ho hooooo.  Ha ha haaaaa

Not after that power line incident!  He was good with pineapple, though.
-- 
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From: johnson1@cs.uwp.edu (Christina Johnson)
Subject: The Crow: Origins?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:45:30 GMT


ok...  the first brush i ever had with The Crow was a quote on a friend's
dorm that went something like 

"'Don't Look!' cried The Crow.  But He did
anyway."

Now, I have since gotten the first and second "The Crow"  Graphic novels
by J. O'Barr.  And the section that the above line is paraphrased from is
in one of them somewhere.  And I know the basic story behind the Crow and
Eric.  But I could swear that i remember the Crow being a member of some
gang from a cyberpunk game.  The gang was called mannequins or Jesters or
something.  
I don't think these two (The comic and the game) have any connections...  but
someone tell me i'm not crazy.  SOmeone tell me there really is a
cyberpunk game witha  guy called the Crow.  And while we're at it, someone
tell me where i can pick up the third installement of the Crow graphic
novels.  (These are the two-part books...  ie.  Pain and Fear, Irony and
Despair.  Not the original issues.)  Or any other paraphanelia.  I've got
a T-shirt of the Crow (I'm not Dead, Yet) that i love, and a friend wants
one.  Unfortunatly, i can't seem to find anymore.

Any comments or theories on the Crow would be interesting as well.

Whatever, and thanks.

-Brandy-

christina johnson

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From: st902173@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: Why do people HATE Image?
Reply-To: st902173@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:19:24 GMT

okay, i'm generally a lurker, but i have to do this.
the reasons i hate image:
actually, the reason i could like them first:
i could admire image because it represents a group of creators
(term used loosely here) who had the balls to break away from the
norm, remove unfair editorial control from their creations, and    
generally take their creations into their own hands. HOWEVER,
i do not like the fact that the creations which have been produced
under the image banner represent little more than a reworking of the
work these people did for marvel. i resent the fact that the books 
produced by image are some of the best selling books on the market
and are complete trash at the same time, while cerebus and other
worthy books are virtually ignored by many dealers and conventions. 
(it is very ironic that cerebus has actually been adveritsed in 
image books)
	i do not like the fact the the image phenomenon has done a 
wonderful job of shifting the focus of the comics medium (for many people)
towards the art on a book, rather than the story or comic as a whole.
	in addition, this type of mindset has turned the comics market
into a collectors, rather than a readers market. the purpose of a comic
book is to tell a good story, not to provide college tuition for your children  . today, many kids who are discovering comics are buying comics only because
a particular book might be worth money, rather than because they actually 
like the comic. the fosters the "multiple copies" syndrome, so that 
people begin spending their money on several copies of one book rather than 
trying out new titles which do not seem to have the immediate value potential.  if people actually read the books and like them, and buy them for that 
reason alone, then there is no problem. however, that should be the only 
reason to buy a comic. 
	ultimately, i, personally, do not like image's books. i fell that 
the art is too exaggerated to be enjoyed, and that the stories are far
below average. the books are exatly what the banner suggests-'image'.
	now, this does not mean that i hate image absolutely. i am going to buy
spawn 8-11, more out of curiosity than anything else. if image ever produces
an book other than these which seems worth some of my small supply of
cash, i will buy it. at this time, however, i can not respect image because
i feel that they have done nothing to benefit the comics industry. instead, 
they pull it down into trends described above which, i feel, can only hurt the  comics industry as a whole. 
	russ fischer
	st902173@pip.cc.brandeis.edu

	i apologize for the somewhat disjointed nature of this post. i was   
rushed and did not have time to formulate all of my arguments before writing.
From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: DC: creative teams for Showcase '93?
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:29:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bxx75x.JI8
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Have the creative teams for each feature in the new Showcase been
announced?  In particular, what is the creative team for the
Creeper feature?

Tom
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From: teo33398@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doctor Zero)
Subject: Sandman observations, past and present...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:11:42 GMT

	Rereading my issues of Sandman today a few things stuck out in my mind.
(No it didn't hurt, and I was able to put my hat on later, but thanks for 
 asking!)

	Repeatedly in the current storyline, Delirium asks "What's the word
for...?"  Now for most of these definitions (save "Change") there is obviously
no easy English equivalent.  But what about other languages?  Does anyone know
of any languages where these words may have an analogue?  If so, this may be an
insight into Del's past (like when she lost her marbles).

	In the "Parliament of Rooks" was there any discussion as to the
possible connection between Adam's three wives and the recurring three witches
in Sandman?  At the end of her story, Eve says that Lilith became the mother
to the Lilim, the second created wife was nameless, and was shown covering
herself, and the Eve of the story, who "lived longer than any other woman"
This follows the Maiden-Mother-Crone model of the Fates, with Maiden being
the nameless one, Mother being Lilith, and crone being Eve.  Has this been
confirmed or denied anywhere else?

	Even though I have never read the Season of Mists (I've read everything
else though), I had always just kind of assumed that the sigil for Destruction
was the Sword (to the extext that I made Endless sigils for all of my family
for Christmas, more on this later *grin*).  Then, in Part 3 of the current 
storyline, Destruction's gallery has the sword hanging there.  Is this the 
first appearance of this sigil?

	And finally, my family are the Endless.  My older sister dresses all
in black, wears ankhs, and at times looks very much like Siouxsee Sioux, and
has much the attitude of Teleute.  I am a writer, and I am often cryptic and
depressed, and have a fair amount of earth-shattering breakups behind me.  My
next youngest brother is big (not fat, BIG), speaks in a LOUD voice, likes to
stir things up, and in general has a good time whereever he goes.  My next
youngest sister is a real looker, and a pain in the butt.  I won't mention that
she uses guys for all they're worth, then dumps them. *grin* My next youngest 
brother is sullen and depressed, and often won't answer when he's spoken to
diectly.  Quiet patient kid.  Finally, my youngest brother is aliving bundle
of energy.  He'll be talking to you one second and then, in mid-sentece will
wander off or start doing something else.  We never know what's going to come
out of his mouth next.  He wants to be a stuntman, for now anyway.
We have no Destiny, so I guess he's our prodigal.  *grin*

	Anyway, that's my transmission for now.  This is Lord Morpheus, signing
off from the far end of the bell curve and the other side of the sky....

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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Claremont Talk
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:36:36 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

keith@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr K C Craig) writes:

>This is sad, but true.  I think everyone realised that Magneto will come
>back, probably as master villan number one.  It's a pity Image don't
>support writers as well as artists and give Claremont a title that
>someone couldn't mess around with.

    Um... what are you talking about here. Image only hires artists?
That makes little sense, since not all artists can write. Of course when
you take a look at the Image line it's not too hard to see that this is
something they haven't quite figured out yet.

--
-Brian V. Hughes
	"Young children should not to try this kind of thing at home.
	    		Use a friend's home."
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From: toolsrus@bcarh837.bnr.ca (Rev. Willard the Wombat)
Subject: Re: "Vaporware" Comics
Reply-To: toolsrus@bcarh837.bnr.ca (Rev Willard the Wombat)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:14:38 GMT


In article <1992Nov17.143000.17536@husc3.harvard.edu> silvers3@husc11.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith) writes:
>I'm trying to compile a list of comics announced but never published by major
>comics companies. I use these terms flexibly, but if I include too many
>small indpendents, the list will certainly become unmanagable. So far, I've
>thought of:

Whatever happened to the rest of MARSHAL LAW: THE HATEFUL DEAD.


Rev. Willard the Wombat    |  "Everybody's happy  now... Everybody's singing...
Church of Cosmic Apathy    |   Everybody's happy, man... We'e BULLETPROOF!!!!"
Bell Northern Research     |        -- pop will eat itself
University of Waterloo     |

Just because I say it, doesn't mean that my employers (or university) believes
it!!!
From: ckc1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CEDRICK KIT CHAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Alan Moore's "last Superman story"
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:32:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


    Can someone tell me the issue number of this story?


    
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From: rooney@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney)
Subject: Re: Neil Gaiman news (from the Lincoln Park MOONDOG'S)
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:48:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.225913.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor's Elmo) writes:
>
>	Recent news from Neil:  
>	Also, the next short story tpb will probably be called "Accounts
>and Reflections" (although Neil said almost all the feedback he's gotten so
>far on the name has been "it's boring".)
>	Last rumor I heard, the Game of You tpb would be next, followed by
>A&R.

	I'm not sure I understand this.  The next short stories trade
paperback will be "Accounts and Reflections"?  Why not simply, "Distant
Mirrors" or (if they do the reasonable thing) "Distant Mirrors and 
Convergence"?  I suppose A&R is an accurate enough title for both series
of shorts, but why add a new title?  

	And yes, it *is* a boring title.

Cordially,

Michael S. Rooney
From: lmlc@brahms.udel.edu (Carolyn M Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: test
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:53:00 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

test
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