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From: kempkec@fog.CS.ORST.EDU (Christopher Kempke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Will there be a Tune-Up 1.1.1.1?
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:22:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Apr14.012259.18733
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

In article <BMMn6A.Muu@world.std.com> bobsoron@world.std.com (Bob Soron) writes:
>1.1.1 off ftp.apple.com late yesterday and life's been Hell On Wheels
>since. Programs that worked fine yesterday morning now crash with
>F-line instruction errors and Unimplemented trap errors. The Finder
>spontaneously quit on me -- the same effect you see when you use
>Command-Option-Escape to quit the Finder to rebuild the Desktop. (No,

	The same things happened to me.  The finder seems unable to copy
	certain fonts into or out of the System file, I've been getting
	F-line instruction and other bombs.  ResEdit seems the worst --
	I've had Static text entries of Dialogs I was creating suddenly
	fill with garbage, and it seems to "lose" things in memory.  All
	of these problems vanished when I removed Tune-Up 1.1.1, returned
	when I put it back.  One other symptom: The "About this Macintosh"
	display seems to have "memory bars" that are longer than the bar
	graph (in other words the bar extends out of the box), even for
	programs that should have LOTS (megabytes) of memory free.  All of
	these problems are, unfortunately, erratic.

	I don't know who to call/tell at Apple; I presume they read the
	newsgroups.  Feel free to write me for more info; I'll help
	any way I can to stamp this thing out.

		--Chris
From: Mike_Steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: MAC Trivia
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:21:08 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation

In article <D2150035.0c5ufz@outpost.SF-Bay.org>, peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce) writes:
> 
> 
> In article <wdrvN3q00ioEQ2PERL@andrew.cmu.edu> (comp.sys.mac.system), mg4s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marissa Gonzalez) writes:
> > Is there any meaning behind the Mac "SE", "si","ci","fx" etc...
> > 
> > No one around here seems to know and I've never run across any explaination.
> 
> Conjecture on my part, but that stops few on the net!
> 
> The two Macs with "i" in their names (ci,si) both have internal video.
> So the it could mean internal video.
> 
> The "c" Macs (cx,ci) are compact Mac II's (compared to the original
> Mac II that is).
> 
> The "x" started with the Mac IIx which was a Mac II with an 68030
> in it.  This seems to have continued with cx and fx.
> 
> So with the above rules you get:
> 
> Mac II		Simply a second generation Macintosh
> Mac IIx		A Mac II with a 68030 in it.
> Mac IIcx				"				 in a compact box.
> Mac IIci	A compact Mac II with internal video (ut could have been
> 				cxi to follow the above rules, but that's probably too long)
> Mac IIfx	A "f"aster Mac IIx.
> Mac IIsi	A "s"porty (???!) Mac II with internal video.
> 
> Mac LC		Obviously Low Cost color Mac.
> 
> I don't knwo where Mac SE came from.  But Plus is easy (follows in the
> Apple II/Plus foot steps).  As is SE/30 (SE with a 68030 - this of
> course should have been a Mac SEx, but wasn't for obvious reasons).
> 
> Classic is pure marketing speak.
> 
> When they upgraded the Classic and LC to use 68030 processors they
> tacked II onto the end, not meaning a Mac II class Mac (Mac II = NuBus),
> but rather a second generation Classic or LC.
> 
> The newer machines have a new naming convention consisting of a
> family name plus a number.  This gives us PowerBook 100,140,170 and 
> Quadra 700, 900.

But how did they decide upon those particular numbers?

> Then there was the Macintosh Portable.  I have no idea why they named
> it this way!

Who would have bought them if Apple called it the Macintosh Luggable?
From: day@william.vancouver.wsu.edu (Steve Day)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Increasing Finder Memory
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:18:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Apr15.031854.7150
Organization: Washington State University, Vancouver Campus

In article <1992Apr14.192329.13399@tandem.com> celis_pedro@tsii.tandem.com (Pedro Celis) writes:
>In article <167C3124A8.TFDAVIS@ricevm1.rice.edu>, TFDAVIS@ricevm1.rice.edu (Twyla Davis) writes:
>> 
>> Running System 6.0x under MultiFinder I've had occasions when I
>> run out of finder memory.  I've had this occur on a Plus, and on
>> a IIci.  Adequate RAM is available but I don't know what to change
>> to increase the ram allocated to finder.
>
>To increase the Finder's memory you need to boot from a 6.0.x diskette,
>do a "Get Info" on the Finder and increase the current size in the
>memory box.
>
Actually, on a machine running 6.0.7 (and I assume all 6.0.x) even if 
Multifinder is running you don't need to restart in order to Get Info and
change the Finder memory size.  You do, however, have to restart AFTER
you change the size so that the system can allocate a new application heap
for the Finder.  There's NO need to start off a floppy or to turn MultiFinder
off.


-- 

Steve Day
N7VHY
From: cwagar@ducvax.auburn.edu (Clayton Wagar * Auburn University * KD4IDN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: New Speed Beep in the works
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:56:59 GMT

#Note, this is not an official announcement, nor am I speaking for the author
or publisher of these products. I'm just a beta tester.#

This seemed kind of appropriate considering the recent SpeedBeep discussions...

Robert is currently developing a new version of both Speed Beep and Helium.
These products are appropriately named Speed Beep Pro and Helium Pro. I'm a
beta tester, and I can tell you we're getting new versions quite regularly. I
can also tell you the the new Speed Beep looks _really cool_. The interface is
redesigned, and the whole thing is much slicker.

However, the new versions, from what I understand, will be commercial.
Actually, part of a commercial package of utilities (probably like Now or
something). 

Now, don't get me wrong... Personally, I love Helium (it lets you get rid of
the balloon in your menu, change the ballon help font, and turn b.h. on/off
with a 'hot key'), and Speed Beep really keeps the system beep from getting
boring. So, if it's anything like Now, the whole package of utilities probably
will be worth the investment

So, look for it in the next few months, keep an eye out. If you would like more
information, you can contact the author on America Online as "L Products" or
the publisher (?) of the utlities package as "Jablon".

73
-C-
-- 
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From: denbeste@andy.bgsu.edu.bgsu.edu (William C DenBesten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: How high in a IIsi?
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:29:13 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Originator: denbeste@enigma

jbd2@quads.uchicago.edu (Brad Dominy) writes:
> Does an internal drive in a IIsi have to be a 1 in. LPS size? Could a half
> height drive be mounted with new brackets or with the existing brackets?
> How about a Quantum 210 Pro drive?

The drive bay is not large enough to deal with half height drives.  If you
don't have any cards in the mac, you could fashion a way to stick the drive
in the card space.  I would not recommend this,though.

The big problem with the IIsi is that its power supply is not beefy enough to
power anything more than a LPS drive (LPS  ~= Low Power Series).

I would recommend getting an external drive.  If you get a longer cable, you
can get the drive out of your work area.  I put one on a shelf above one of
my servers.

> 
> I'm looking for a larger internal drive, but most I've seen are half height
> drives. So, I wanted to find out if there is a problem installing a non-LPS.
> 
> Oh, one more thing...
> I've heard two LPS drives could be mounted internally. Has anyone done this
> successfully?
> 
> Thank you for any help you could offer.
> Brad
-- 
-- 
William C. DenBesten is denbeste@bgsu.edu or denbesten@bgsuopie.bitnet
From: arkcad@rapola.cc.tut.fi (SOM-K[YTT ANTTILA MIKKO)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: quadra cache on/off ???
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:59:50 GMT
Reply-To: anttila@arc.tut.fi
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland


In article 14682 <cdoucet.703141860@tdsb-s>, 
cdoucet@mais.hydro.qc.ca (cdoucet) writes...

>is there a program (that work!!!) that would be smatr enough to switch
>the quadra cache on or off when needed ??
> 
>i have been trying compatibility. it looked to work well until i wanted to print with pagemaker 4.0 it was seying the printer in the chooser but couldn't print to it ????
> 
>any sugestion apreciated thank's in advance !!
> 
>cdoucet@mais.hydro.qc.ca
>Christian Doucet

The trick is not to use the Aldus supplied print drivers. Instead, hold down
option when selecting print from the file menu to use the real apple drivers.
They work fine on the quadra.

By the way, some of the import-export filters seem to cause system crashes,
be wary...


Mikko Anttila
e-mail to: anttila@arc.tut.fi
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: kam@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Kevin Mitchell)
Subject: Re: TuneUp 1.1 -- Parts remain w/ Shift boot?
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 06:11:53 GMT

longj@lonex.rl.af.mil (Jeffrey K. Long) writes:


>Could this explain what I have been seeing on my new Quadra900 !! ?? 

>I ran SpeedOmeter on it and noticed that I was only getting a pr of .53 on
>my disk speed!!  I rebooted with "extensions off" and then disk pr was >1.8r

I had a similar problem, and it seemed to be related to the Foreign File 
Access extension (got a CD?). I fixed it by removing all CD-ROM-related
software and reinstalling it.
From: dstepe@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Ejecting Floppy disk woes
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:30:28 GMT
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

I administer a student lab and am having a recurring problem:  Users continue
to use command-e or the Eject menu command to eject their floppy disks.  This
leaves the darn things on line and the next user gets stuck when the computer
says "Please insert disk diskname".  Not a problem for someone who knows to
either drag the disk icon to the Trash or press command-. until it goes away,
but for our normal user, forget it.  No matter how many people I seem to tell,
or how many signs I post, people still don't listen.

I'm tempted to take the menu command out with Resedit, but someone will then
eject the disk from a dialog box, like the Save or Save As... which leads to a
whole new problem.  We run System 7 on most of our machines.  If the ejected
floppy is then modified on another system, the orginal won't recognize it as
the same disk.  This creates a high likelyhood of data loss when the program
can no longer access the correct disk.

Is there any way at all to avoid these problems from within the system, or are
we stuck trying to warn people about it and then trying to save those who don't
listen?  Any suggestions or comments are welcome.

Thanx

Dirk S. Tepe
dstepe@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jabba@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Richard Charles Graves)
Subject: Re: Why can't you put System 7.0.1 install disks on a server?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 03:20:07 GMT


We've put System 7.0.1 install disks on a server and they work fine. Try
again. Maybe you've got more than one Installer or Installer Script
available and it's getting confused. Maybe you've got a net or drive
problem. Maybe you've got a screwed-up desktop file or a "disappearing
folders" or folder valence inconsistency on the server.
If possible (if the server's not a NeXT running Aufs or something like
ours) access the server volume locally and run a couple disk utils on it.
This should be done once every couple months anyway depending on server
usage and fullness.
Hope you got this -- your mail bounces like a Congressman's check.
--
rich graves, stanfd res affairs mac tech, and sometime junior, poli sci
jabba@deathstar.stanford.edu    553 Mayfield #207        (415) 497-2472
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: question: mac file to next printer & kanji question
From: eburk@russian.sfsu.edu (Eli K. Burk)
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:08:03 PDT

I want to get the best output at the cheapest price - creating a file on
the mac and then printing by Next to Next printer (or perhaps not):

Note: Mac printer is a DeskWriter and both are many miles removed from the
     Next.

question
     1) How do I do this for postscript?
          Can I just print mac postscript on a Next? If not what do I
          need to do?
     2) How do I do this for bitmapped fonts include kanji?
          Is it possible to "smooth" the bitmaped fonts somehow 
               and then save as postscript? Will DeskWriter be able to
               print "smoothed" fonts?
          ATM-J? (Is this copy protected? - I heard that it is) How
               much does it cost? How many fonts are included?
     3) Is there a cheap (or least not painfully expensive) way to print
        Japanese fonts to Mac laser printer - Apple japanese postscript
        printer upgrade is obscence

thanks for your time
eli
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: tappek@infonode.ingr.com (J. Kurt Tappe)
Subject: Two Network Problems
Summary: Can't Share or choose IIg Zone
Keywords: Sharing, LaserWriter, IIg
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:01:51 GMT

I have two problems here, both of which happen to relate to networking:

1) For some reason, I could not enable file sharing on my Mac this morning.
   When I click the "Start" button in the "Sharing Setup" control panel,
   it tries to start up and then dies.  The error message is a terse
   "File sharing could not be enabled."  Gee, thanks; how descriptive.
   I've replaced the File Sharing extension (with the one from Tune-up
   1.1), and all three control panels that have anything to do with
   networking.  No luck.  Anyone know of any reason why it wouldn't
   be able to start up?

2) Our growing company recently went from on Ethernet zone to several.
   We would like to be able to select the zone in which our LaserWriter
   IIg appears, but we cannot figure out any way to set this.  The
   LaserWriter Utility does not seem to have such an option, and no
   mention of this is made in the IIg manual.  Can the IIg's zone be
   selected?  If so, how?  If not, why???  

Thanks for any help,
                                                            Kurt
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From: coelloc@nyssa.CS.ORST.EDU (Carol Ann Coello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Larger Fonts on Desktop
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:10:06 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Dept. Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon.

Does anyone out there know if there is some program/init/utility/whatever
that will make the font larger on the desktop?  For someone with poor vision
it is very hard to read file and disk names.  If anyone knows of anything,
please send e'mail to: coelloc@nyssa.cs.orst.edu

thanks,
carol :)
From: tjfs@tadtec.uucp (Tim Steele)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Why can't you put System 7.0.1 install disks on a server?
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:24:27 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Tadpole Technology plc

I've tried the usual procedure whereby you drag the floppies to the
server disk to create a group of folders at the same level, but when
I try and install from it the Installer complains that some files are
missing - see your Network Administrator.  Well, I *am* the Network
Administrator, and all the floppies are there, so what gives?

Thanks

Tim
-- 
Tim Steele
Product Support Manager
Tadpole Technology plc
From: ross@bnr.ca (Ross Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: QuicKeys 2 using puppet strings in System 7?
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:37:45 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

I was annoyed to find that a QuicKeys 2 (version 2.1, System 7.0 compatible)
File QuicKey would not open a document belonging to an *open* application which
does not support the System 6 "puppet strings" scheme (either by having an
Open... menu item or by having 'mstr' resources).  My System 7 dependent
application supports 'odoc' AppleEvents, but it isn't getting one.

Version 2.1 does many things in the System 7 style if running under System 7 -
why not this?

Ross Brown
Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
ross@bnr.ca
Opinions expressed do not necessarily represent those of BNR.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Pete Kelly <pfkelly@bnr.ca>
Subject: Re: Finder view by small icon bug
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
     <1992Mar30.222808.7459@csn.org>
Date: Sun, 05 Apr 92 13:46:36 GMT
From: barry@chezmoto.ai.mit.edu (Barry Kort)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Apple, please tell us more about S7 TuneUp
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:28:47 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: MicroMuse

Having installed S7 Tuneup, and having experienced the typical occasional
system crashes, I would appreciate knowing what problems are attributable
to the TuneUp, so that I can segregate problems which are unrelated to
S7 TuneUp and continue working on them while awaiting TuneUp 7.1.1.

(Or is Apple recommending a de-installation of the TuneUp? If so, what
is the recommended procedure to do that?)

I am getting Finder Bus Errors of late, which I never got before.  Are
these related to the S7 TuneUp, or are they most likely caused by an
unrelated problem?

Many thanks,

Barry Kort
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From: strong@apple.com (Bob Strong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer,apple.general
Subject: Re: Comparing APPLs and BPPLs
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:01:22 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <64786@apple.Apple.COM>, spud@Apple.COM (Dave "Spud" Kalin) writes:
> 
> Someone told me that there is a file type BPPL which denotes a background
> application (such as the old Backgrounder).

Try "appe".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: gene@vis.toronto.edu (Gene Amdur)
Subject: shift key + extensions
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:02:17 GMT

Among my other duties as a system administrator, I have to maintain
a network of Macs (unfortunately).  I say unfortunately because it
seems that Apple wants to make things as hard as possible to maintain.
In particular we have atleast one Mac which has sensitive information
on it.  And when it was running System 6 we ran a program called passproof
with a floppy disk lock to try to disuade non-authorized people from using
this particular mac.  With the advent of system 7, and with the use of the
shift key this and all other extensions can be turned of.

I can't believe that Apple would provide this "feature" without providing
a way to disable it (other than screwing around with the system file).  
In the age of computer piracy Apple does not appear to be making it any easier
for a Mac owner to protect him/herself.

Has anyone discovered a way of disabling the shift override of extensions
for a particular init?  I know that there are other programs that we can get
that actually lock the disk but our budget is kind of tight now.

--gene@vis.toronto.edu
From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Neil, would you please comment on this?
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:12:35 GMT
Organization: I is a writur

bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) writes:

>An Example: MUZAK, INC, has a team of people that watch newspapers,

Or Xerox, Coke, Pepsi, Disney. Read any issue of Writer's Digest.

Or McDonalds. Perhaps especially them, since they're very active in
trademark protection. They had the interesting situation of prosecuting a
firm called McInn, who simultaneously admitted that they chose the "Mc"
prefix because it implied consistency, cleanliness and economy while trying
to convince the judge that McDonald's had nothing to do with it and,
besides, it had no intrinsic value (they lost big time).

If you want to know why, ask the folks who used to own trademarks to things
like Elevator.

>I know it sounds stupid and crazy, but it keeps lots of people
>employed, and until someone changes the laws, that's the way it's
>going to be.

It IS crazy and stupid, but it's the law. Which is why it bothers me when
the media plays it as a gag ("Sony shuts down Sony's deli and pizza delivery
house. Big Business stomps little david into the ground"). Business KNOWS
it's bad PR. They have to do it anyway. Imagine the havoc if "Sony" lost its
trademark. 

Imagine if Apple's software were put in the public domain. Before you start
cheering, imagine a Macintosh world with no new releases of the software, no
new hardware, because that's what'd happen. How quickly would the Mac then
follow the C64 down the road to being dead? And who would bother to write
new, spiffy software for old, dead hardware? (hope you enjoy Windows).

Don't yell at Apple. get the laws fixed.

>You can make up your own minds about whether Mr Shapiro was kowtowing
>to Apple by being deferential. Then again, it's in CompuServe's best
>interests to keep having Apple system software on their archives. I'm
>sure you can find cynical motive enough in that.

Neil was doing what he had to do to make sure he could continue to legally
put Apple software out on his SIG. that's a non-trivial part of the
attraction of CIS that helps pay his salary. I know GEnie put the TuneUp
stuff up -- and as soon as they realized they didn't have permission, it
disappeared again. It'll be back as soon as the i's are dotted and the t's
are crossed.


-- 
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