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From: keivjam@elof.iit.edu (James Keivom)
Subject: WHAT DOES 1 BIT DAC MEAN?
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 06:09:26 GMT

 am thinking of buying  a CD player and i found one for $88.(sale price)
it says that the cd player has 1 bit dac.  is this bad?  also, what
is the best CD player i can get for $100-120.

thanks

jim

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca (George Lindholm)
Subject: Pioneer's 511 surround sound receiver???
Organization: University Computing Services, UBC, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:37:47 GMT

I'm thinking about buying Pioneer's VSX 511 receiver and was wondering what
reaction people have had with this model? Would it be worth considering the 601
model? Thanks

    George
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From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: rec.audio,misc.consumers
Subject: Re: DAK audio wares (dbx/bsr)
Keywords: dak audio speaker stereo dbx bsr
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:56:51 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Followup-To: rec.audio

mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike Suter) writes:

>Ok, enough babbling:  What I want to know is, are these items as
>good as they sound?  Is dbx/bsr stuff junk?  Something in-between?

I bought one of the older equalizers, and have been very happy with
it.  It's not really high-end stuff, but it is certainly serviceable,
and I've not noticed any unnatural sound coloration (I have a pretty
good system, and have returned other components (from Yamaha and Sony,
not from DAK's bsr/dbx lineup) because they added hiss or buzzing or
other nasties.  For the $150 I paid, I'm really quite happy.  I've had
the unit for about 7 years now.  Dbx makes some pretty cool gear,
although what DAK sells isn't usually the spiffier of their product
line.  All in all, they make solid, reliable equipment.

All the other stuff I bought from DAK was pretty much what Drew said
it would be (minus the enthusiastic hype, of course), and I'd say
everything I got I was happy with, for the money I spent.  A friend
bought some of their speakers, and blew out a tweeter.  He could have
returned it, I'm sure, but he never got around to it.  Other than
that, the speakers have held up well.  For the money, they provided
pretty good sound.

A lot of folks will probably warn you away from them because they
filed for bankruptcy recently.  As far as I know, no one has ever
gotten seriously stiffed by them, and unlike most every company that
screws its customers just before they go under, DAK hasn't been, to my
knowledge, charging credit cards before shipment, or doing anything
else untoward.  They've always been responsive with me, and I've
bought on and off from them for I'd guess 10 years now.  As long as
you're paying with a credit card, you'd be protected.  Since they
don't charge your card before they ship, if you have a charge on your
card, and don't have the merchandise yet, you can simply challenge the
charge and not have to pay it unless you receive what you ordered.
So, if you decide to buy things from them, be cautious, but don't just
refuse to do business with them because they're going through hard
times.  They've been good to their customers for years, and there is
no reason to belive that they'd try to milk them now.
From: hoffman@cs.pitt.edu (Bob Hoffman)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Identify 3M tape, please
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:35:17 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

I recently came across some 3M recording tape that I can't identify.
Would someone with a 3M catalog please look this part number up and
tell me what application this tape is designed for?  The part number
is "8206-1/4-3600 RL".

	Thanks,
	---Bob.

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From: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: RE: CHOOSING CASSETTE DEC
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:36:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 

yoda@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Terry Lee) writes:
-> As far as I'm concerned, the only tape deck to get is a Nakamichi.
-> However Nakamichi doesn't make a dual cassette, and you'll have to
-> give up sound mangling features like auto-reverse, unless you want to
-> spend thousands on a Dragon.
->
-> But at $399 US you can buy two Cassette Deck 2's.  Especially since
-> Nakamichi is blowing out their current charcoal grey line with a new
-> almost identical black line.  House of Music is San Francisco is
-> selling it for $325.

  Yeah, I think Nak's also make one of the best cassette decks in the
world.  I have the Cassette Deck 2 and have had no problems with it.
The sound is perfect and clear.  One question about the new Nak's,  when
are the redesigned one's coming out.  I am just about to buy the CD
Player 4, but I may have to wait now.

Erich Lim
Internet add:  erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us
                                                                                                                        
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: Dave J <djensen@claven.idbsu.edu>
Subject: Re: CD pricing
Organization: Morrison Center for the Performing Arts
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:42:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.152131.2706@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill
Vermillion) writes:

>
>You will see the rationalization for raising prices with a statement
>that will go something like this "because we are now making fewer than
>we used to, the economies of volume production have gone down and we
>therefore must raise the prices accordingly".
>
>Market drives it.    CD's are a phenomenon.   Nothing has ever grown so
>fast  in the entertainment industry.    The only thing that will drive
>the prices down is the consumer.

I just read an article describing how new big-name (Michael Jackson, Modonna,
etc.) releases will be one dollar higher and the reason given was "because the
market will bear it." The article went on to say record companies planned to
hold the price the same for lesser name releases for the time being.

Dave Jensen


Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: rpt@edscom.demon.co.uk (Richard Tomlinson)
Subject: Re: CD pricing
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:58:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.155438.22507@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> carlwu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Carleton Wu) writes:
>Does anyone know why the cost of Compact Discs are still so high?
>
>It has been 5 years now and I'm still paying an average of $13.50 per disc?

In the UK the average full price pop CD is 12 pounds and full price classical
is 14 pounds although you can get them mail order for about 12 pounds. With
an exchange rate of $2 to the pound, that makes US prices cheap.

Richard.
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rpt@edscom.demon.co.uk   Tel:  +44 908 284539          Amateur radio: G4TGJ
All opinions expressed are mine, and are not necessarily those of my employer.
From: malak@irit.irit.fr (Abdo ABDULMALAK)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Kenwood UD90 vs Technics SC-CH900
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:09:20 GMT
Organization: IRIT-UPS, Toulouse, France


Hi,

I am looking for a comparison between the Kenwood-UD90 and Technics SC-CH900.
Can any one help me?


Thanks

Abdo ABDULMALAK
IRIT/SIERA
Tel : (33) 61 55 67 68
email : malak@irit.fr
From: deanc@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Dean Cashen)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:07:43 GMT
Subject: Re: (hyper)sensitive CD player
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.audio


   Since my post, I've gotten a fair amount of e-mail asking me
"Uh, Dean, after all the problems you've had, why did you keep
buying Sony?"  Reasonable questions.  Well, while having 5 or 6
Sony products break seems like a sure clue, they broke either several
years ago, all at once, and just of late, again, all at once.  It
wasn't a continual pattern of buy, watch it break, buy another one,
watch it break. . . so on.

   But, that's not the subject of this post.  I FIXED my CD player!
(Which is a Sony  CDP-C70, by the way).  I tore it apart, again, to
clean the lens, clean the rails, and lube the rails with a lithium-
based grease.  My thoughts were that the thicker grease would smooth
out what appeared to be some "slop" in the gears which drive the
laser assembly.  I noticed that every time it skipped (which was a
lot), it was during tracking.  Or, so it seemed.  I believe now that
it was actually tracking because it had skipped, not the other way
around, skipping during tracking.

  In any event, lubing the assemblies proved fruitless, and I was going
to sew it back up and keep looking for a replacement, when I noticed
a small PC-mounted potentiometer on the laser assy.  Lacking tools or a
manual, tuning these things is almost always a bad idea, but this player was
destined for the trash heap (did I mention that it skipped a lot?)  So, why
not?  Well, I gave it a slight turn ClockWise and found that I had to pound
on the case, hard, to get it to skip.  Skeptical, I turned the pot Counter-
ClockWise.  Sure enough, I could tweak it so it would just begin skipping.
If I turned it farther CCW, the player would quit and display "ERROR" on
the panel (who said I didn't have tools to adjust this with?).  I settled
on a position that seemed stable, and I'm listening to skip-free Santana
as I write this.  I assume the pot adjusted current level to the laser, 
or adjusted it's modulation, but I don't know really.  All I really
know is CW is "better," and "CCW" is "worse."  One point: the farther I
turn it CW, the noiser the laser gets; it emits a high-pitched whine.
Again, not sure what that means, but I tried to keep the whine down
while keeping the music playing.  Anyone have any thoughts on this?

   So, just some feedback.  I'm glad about this, I'd given it up for
lost.  The one component to my stereo that I was content to keep
was this CD player.  I'd rather upgrade the system with a DSP-A1000,
some new surround speakers, etc., rather than just maintain the
status quo and get another player to replace my yet-another broken
Sony. . . .

Dean Cashen
-- Boise
From: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: CD Changer Shuffle Programs
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:44:17 GMT

Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-24970]: invader.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: finnegan@navo.navy.mil
Organization: Grumman Data Systems	
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:21:57 GMT

Sorry for the ambiguous title, but I'm interested in how
the various CD changers handle playing in "Random" or
"Shuffle" mode.  For example, the first changer I had,
a Pioneer cartridge, would play every song without
repeating a selection, and when every song on every disc
had been played, it would stop.

Now I have a Magnavox cartridge changer.  It seems to
play in a true random fashion, without keeping track of
songs it has already played.  Hence, occasionally, it
will play the same song twice in a row.  I hate that.
And then to add insult to injury, it will eventually
stop.  Now how in the hell does it know where to stop
if it plays everything randomly and doesn't keep track
of what it has already played?

Anyway, does this "feature" vary from manufacturer to
manufacturer, or can it vary in model lines from the
same manufacturer?  If it is specific to manufacturers,
could someone tell me which ones act like the Pioneer
I described above?

Thanks a lot....

Kenneth
finnegan@navo.navy.mil
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: sbradley@scic.intel.com (Seth Bradley)
Subject: Re: Jacked up CD prices again
Keywords: enoughs enough
Organization: Intel SCIC, Beaverton, OR
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:06:06 GMT

In article <khaw.716505866@parcplace.com> khaw@parcplace.com (Mike Khaw) writes:
>Refuse to buy at those prices. Suppliers will charge whatever consumers
>are *willing* to pay. I generally try to buy at so-called "sale" prices
>at Tower, which range from $7.99 to $12.99, with most falling at $11.99.
>Very rarely will I pay more than that.

And you can get those kind of prices, every day, on most any major label
CD, from Noteworthy Music, (800) 648-7972.  I've ordered from them twice,
both times I've gotten my order right on schedule (2 days after the order),
with nothing back-ordered.  I highly recommend them.  They even have a 
modem ordering service (which I haven't used yet).  They claim to have over
13,000 titles in stock, including some independents.
-- 
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Emergency Room doctors is that malpractice suits are rare.  On the other
hand, ER doctors never have to deal with patients installing new versions
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Sony's CD advertising
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:21:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.183912.8333@portal.vpharm.com> dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.151145.25486@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp 
>(Bill Vermillion) writes:
>>

>>The American music appetite seemed to want a way to put music in their
>>cars.   The 45 rpm players for the cars never caught on, but they were
>>available as a factory installed option from Chrysler corporation.

>Do you know more about this? I'm curious about how they worked? Did
>they use an effective mass of a kg to keep the records
>from skipping when you drove over potholes? :-)

The transport was floated quite well.  I seem to remember reading
reports that it worked well, but I don't know if it was given a
pothole test.

You don't have to have mass to keep a tone arm tracking.  You
can spring load it.

Some of the high-end turntables in the 50's/60's did that.
The arm was made neutral in all directions, and the force
applied to the record was done by a clockwork type spring.

This led to demonstrations in store windows with the turntable
on edge, or even upside down, and playing quite well.

I seem to want to say they introduced this in the 1957 models.
That was the year that Chrysler introduced tailfins to the
world, the the motto "Suddenly it's 1960!".  It may have been a
year or so later.

Since they were less than a success about 2 years later Allied
radio had them in their catalog as closeouts.  Can't tell you
much more than that.

Changing a record ever 2-3 minutes was not really conducive to
safe driving.   Four-track and 8-tracks did not exist. And
cassettes had not been invented at that time.  Of course you
could put a reel-to-reel in your car if you really wanted
music.  A friend of mine did that - but he also used it as a
mobile PA too!


>
>These are not the hip-pocket discs that Philco used, right? I assume
>those were available in Fords at some point?
>
>On the subject of portable record players, do people remember the
>Sony record "walkmen" that they made briefly in the early '80's? Did
>anyone ever actually buy one? 
>
>dap
>-- 
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>    David A. Pearlman
>
>Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc.                     email: dap@vpharm.com


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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: Vince@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Vince Koh Kia Keng)
Subject: Re: Dolby Pro Logic in Music and Vidio Tapes anyone ?????
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:41:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.164350.19617@ultb.isc.rit.edu> deb5584@ultb.rit.edu () writes:
>I just purchased a Yamaha Rcvr. with Dolby pro logic and was wondering
>how much of today's music is encoded Dolby pro.  I got it mostly
>for a Hi Fi VCR to use for special effects in movies but I don't know
>what is happening when I use music.  With music it sounds choppy and a bit 
>unnatural so I am assuming that the music I have used wasn't encoded
>with Dolby pro.  I know my unit doesn't have a indicator light to tell
>weather or not the source is encoded Dolby pro but do any other units 
>have any indication ?  Does anyone know of any music which is encoded 
>with Dolby Pro ?  Any reply would be appreciated.
>
>                                                Thanks,
>                                                Doug

	Check out CD's by ProArte+.  The CD's with numbers starting with
"CDS xxx" are those that are Dolby Surround encoded (actually, they
are encoded with Shure's StereoSurround equipment, which conforms with
Dolby pro-logic type encoding).  Specifically, check oout their "Sample
Surround" CD which includeds F-15 flyby's, parts of 1812 Overture, Phantom
of the Opera, etc.  I've got about 10+ CD's by them with Dolby Surround.
With proper loudness of the rear speakers, they can sound quite impressive.
	Also, RCA makes some Dolby pro-logic encodings, but they are mostly
remixes of old movie soundtracks reprocessed to give a surround effect.  They
sound decent.  Also, over a Spring issue of "Stereo Rewiev", there was a
coverage of surround CD's (can't remember which issue...).
	Hope this helps...

-Vince
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: sbradley@scic.intel.com (Seth Bradley)
Subject: Re: Very expensive cables
Organization: Intel SCIC, Beaverton, OR
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 06:58:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.050532.13193@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>I haven't seen anything that says others can't tell the difference;
>what I have seen are postings that say nobody has proven that he can
>tell the difference.  With a lack of conclusive evidence, you can
>believe whatever you want.

Did you see the posting where I cited the Stereo Review article
in which listeners could tell the difference under double blind
conditions?  Others have been conducted as well, and I'm working
on one of my own for interconnects (which I haven't seen double
blind tested yet).
-- 
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Internet: sbradley@scic.intel.com   UUCP: uunet!scic.intel.com!sbradley
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"A system admin's life is a sorry one.  The only advantage he has over
Emergency Room doctors is that malpractice suits are rare.  On the other
hand, ER doctors never have to deal with patients installing new versions
of their own innards!"  -Michael O'Brien
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: pinghann@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Ping Hann Wang)
Subject: Need information for TASCAM's "Portastudio 464"
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:32:05 GMT


My friend abroad is looking for the compact-size multi-track cassette recorder
"Portastudio 464" by TASCAM company. I trid to find TASCAM's 800 phone number
but failed. The only thing I know about TASCAM is that a preamp with multi-
headphone jacks in our music library is TASCAM's product, but that preamp was
manufactured bt TEAC in Japan. I wonder if TASCAM has some affilitation with
TEAC. Could someone out there give me the phone number of TSACAM or any audio
store carrying TASCAM's products in LA area?
From: jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com (Jeff Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Jacked up CD prices again
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:02:47 GMT
Organization: I would rather be windsurfing.
In-reply-to: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM's message of 14 Sep 92 17:39:51 GMT


> The price they were quoting seemed to be about $18.00.
> What can we do?

Do away with our capitalist economy and adapt communism.
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From: mbk@lyapunov.ucsd.edu (Matt Kennel)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Very expensive cables
Date: 11 Sep 1992 23:47:10 GMT
Organization: Institute For Nonlinear Science, UCSD
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sbradley@scic.intel.com (Seth Bradley) writes:
: <the old wine tasting analogy over again>
: If you can't tell the difference between Ripple and a fine
: Auslese, then fine, buy the Ripple.  But to state that others can't tell 
: the difference is supreme arrogance.

1)   I'm a total wine tasting amateur but i've listened to music and hi
fi's for a long time, and in my personal subjective opinion, the differences
between wines are more immediately apparent than all but the grossest
(i.e. major speaker & frequency response) differences between stereo
components.

2)   The biochemistry and physiology of smell/taste is exceedingly complicated
(how many different chemicals are there?), wheras very-low-frequency 
electromagnetic technology is essentially a solved problem.


I bet I could make a good cable long before I could make a wine
better than thunderbird.

: -- 
: Seth J. Bradley, Senior System Administrator, Intel SCIC
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From: sbhattac@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Shankar Bhattacharyya)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Zoebels and multi-amping (Was Re: Bi-Amp vs. Bridged Bi-Wire)
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:29:58 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <BuBGn4.C4I@world.std.com> DPierce@world.std.com (Richard d Pierce) writes:

>As to the electrical vs acoustical results, the use of aperiodic designs has
>profound effects on the acoustical response of the system.

Tell us more. Please. References will do, if such material exists, and is
suitable for moderately informed builders, but practical advice would be
even nicer.

- Shankar
From: antoniou@buitc.bu.edu (George Antoniou)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: EQUALIZER  -- CONNECTION PROBLEM!!!!
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:28:05 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: antoniou@buitc.bu.edu