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From: kjetil.lenes@thcave.no (Kjetil Lenes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: N => E => P
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Thunderball Cave BBS - Oslo, Norway  (47 2) 29 94 41
Reply-To: kjetil.lenes@thcave.no (Kjetil Lenes)


D> Though crossing a large linguistic group (or artificial categorizatio

D> in Celtic - Germanic - Latin language families, all are coastal and
D> not greatly separated geographically.

And come to Norway and look for yourself: At the western coast
dark/black hair and brown eyes are quite common.

Kjetil

>XBoard 1.0 #173> Internet: kjetil.lenes@thcave.no

Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Subject: The Swedenfinns are worried about their language
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:08:21 GMT

The Central Organization of the Finns in Sweden has sent a letter to
prime minister Carl Bildt, in where the Finns demand Swedish governement
to undersign The Treaty of Protecting Lingual Minorities. The Treaty is
made by Council of Europe. The signature would guarantee for the Finnish
language a minority status in Sweden. The Central Organization reminds
Swedish governement that there is 320 000 Finnish speaking people living
in Sweden and a half a million Finns immigrated to Sweden during the latest immigration wave. 

jr

Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: achristo@pons.uio.no (Alf Christophersen)
Subject: Re: Norwegian whalers have the right to live!
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 05:24:28 GMT


In case someone misunderstand my argument, what I really mean is
that if you can't eat mutton or pig because it is an animal, you
can't eat vegetables, cereals or any other food because they are
living matters that need to be killed in order to make food for
us. In fact, animals, at least wild animals, has the ability to
move and has a chance to flee and in other way fight for its
life. A vegetable has nothing to fight against us and therefor it
is much more unfair to kill a vegetable!

I for my part has no troubles at all eating pigs, muttons,
cauliflowers, cod, whale or beaver or any other living that makes
our food!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: phall@fraser.sfu.ca (Porter Hall)
Subject: Dansk borgerret
Keywords: Dansk, Borgerret, Denmark, Citizenship
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 09:16:54 GMT

Er der nogen derude, der ved, om jeg kan blive dansk borger?
Jeg var f|dt i Canada.  Min far er kanadisk, men min mor er dansk.
Hun blev naturaliseret some kanadjer da jeg var 6 }r.

Kan jeg stadig f} dobbelt borgerret med Danmark?  Jeg er ogs}
interesseret om hvem i Danmark er v{rnepligtig, og hvorn}r.

Tak,
Peter
From: ns@csd.cri.dk (Nick Sandru)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Beaches
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:30:24 GMT
Organization: Computer Resources International A/S

jomp@mentor.dk (Jan Otto Munch Pedersen) writes:

>evans@ece.arizona.edu (Glen Evans) writes:
>>Where are the nude beaches in the nordic countries?
>>(In the summer of course)

>In Denmark: Everywhere -- summer and winter :-)

>Jan

The town where I live - Hundested - is surrounded by beaches. They stay
put summer or winter and are usually nude all year round (no vegetation,
no snow etc.). You can easily find Hundested - you have only to
track any violent storm that crosses Denmark...

:-)

Long Haired Nick
From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: The Swedenfinns are worried about their language
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:43:31 GMT
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Henrik Jonsson (d1hej@dtek.chalmers.se) wrote:
: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
: 
: >Swedish governement that there is 320 000 Finnish speaking people living
:                                    ^^^^^^^^^
: >in Sweden and a half a million Finns immigrated to Sweden during the latest im
:                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: migration wave. 

May be some have returned, but not my brother.

: 
: Your figures looks quite strange, Jarmo.
: may I ask what happened to the 180 000 others...
: 
Have you ever heard of such cases who have continued their route to
somewhere else from Sweden or returned to Finland? Can you imagine that?
jr
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: achristo@pons.uio.no (Alf Christophersen)
Subject: Re: Tried Sour Cream Porridge ?
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 05:05:17 GMT


Here's another recipe:

0.5 l sour cream (33% fat) (named 'seterr|mme' in Norway)
3 dl wheatflour
about 1 1/2 l milk
1/2 ts salt
sugar
cinnamon

Boil the sour cream slowly covered for 10 min. Sift in 1/3 of the
wheat flour. Let it boil slowly and whisk carefully now and then.
Spoon of the butter that gather on top and set aside warm for use
when serving. Sift on the rest of the wheat flour, whisk
carefully, but thoroughly and add milk until wanted thickness.
Let boil slowly for 5 more minutes, taste it with salt.
Serve with sugar, cinnamon, melted butter and drink blackcurrant
juice and water with it.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: ddawson@rodan.acs.syr.EDU (Dick Dawson)
Subject: Re: Metric again...  (Was: 8-bit news (was Re: Commodore keyboard ...))
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 01:12:27 EST

In article <2414@adagio.lemis.uucp> grog@lemis.uucp (Greg Lehey) writes:
>
>>ascii 24 is an arrow pointing up. 
>
>not binary 0100100. That translates as '$' in ASCII. Where do you find
>an arrow in modern ASCII?

Yup, I did a brainfade and translated 0100100 as bcd; = 24.

>> Not the caret character shifted 6
>>>on US keyboards.  I've never seen this character on any keyboard,
>>>meaning some shuck & fiddle to generate it.  But maybe if we really
>>
>>That's because it's a control character and is unprintable on many
>>systems.  As it happens that character is an up arrow on an IBM PC
>>style machine, it could be anything else (including nothing) on
>>another.

ibm couldn't leave a non printing control character alone.  24 is CAN,
cancel, originally a tty control character, generated from a proper
keyboard by ^x.  That's <ctrl>x.  Just in case y'all can't display the
caret.  So ibm made 24 appear on screen as an arrow of full character
height without descender, pointing up.  They also made a whole raft of
silly smiley faces, etc...

>>Older versions of ASCII actually have a up arrow in the position that
>>caret now occupies.

And at least one version of an EBCDIC (another ibm abortion, this time
for mainframes) terminal has a reversed lazy L on the shift 6 and no
caret or circumflex.  The reverse lazy L is supposed to be a logical
NOT operator symbol.  So any file that has a caret in it, if sent to
the local Xerox 4075, prints the NOT symbol instead.  But no one else
uses the reverse lazy L for not.  Most try to get a bar over the
string that is NOTed or use the tilde: ~ .

>Where do you people get these ideas?-- 
>Greg Lehey                       | Tel: +49-6637-1488              
>LEMIS                            | Fax: +49-6637-1489
>Schellnhausen 2, W-6324 Feldatal, Germany

These ideas are STANDARDS.  Remember, ascii = American STANDARD Code
for Information Interchange.  Recall the meaning of standard: it
ain't, and in fact, will be as thoroughly non-standardized as
possible.

Dick   ddawson@mailbox.syr.edu
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: FEEBLE LINGUISTIC JOKE
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:19:27 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <5002.312.uupcb@thcave.no>
kjetil.lenes@thcave.no (Kjetil Lenes) writes:

> 
> KC> >Did you know that Portugese, Irish-Gaelic and the Norwegian spoken
> KC> >in western Norway share the word "Ke" (spelled differently though),
> KC> >all places meaning "What".
> 
> KC> I suppose it's a celtic word, and the Norwegians learned it from som
> KC> of their raids on Ireland,
> 
> Sorry. The facts are correct, but I do not think there is any
> correlation. The posting was humourously meant.
> 
> B.t.w. I think the only Gaelic word to come directly from Ireland
> is the man's name Kjartan, Cieran in Irish. Other words came via
> latin. But there was some words passed the other way.

I would have thought the name was spelt Kieran (at least it is here in
the States), but then again, I don't know any Celtic.


--Ted Schuerzinger
email: .zed@Dartmouth.EDU
"I should have realized it would be bad vodka when all the label said
was 'Russian Vodka'."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: laakkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Laakkonen)
Subject: Re: The Swedenfinns are worried about their language
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:29:18 GMT

In <1993Jan28.065450.15222@abo.fi> SASPLUND@FINABO.ABO.FI (Staffan Asplund AT) writes:

>Jarmo is fully correct in THIS TIME. The rest of the finns
>500000-320000=180000 have already swedish as their mother tongue when
>moving to Sweden.

are you sure ? there were circa 5x10^5 swedish speakers here in the sixties ?
and now there are circa 3x10^5, because of EMIGRATION ?! 

i wonder if it will happen again ...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Subject: Magnus, a comedy of cancer on STV2 tonite
Organization: Norwegian Inst. of Tech./University of Trondheim, Trondheim,
	Norway
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:15:15

I noted that the Icelandic film "Magnus" is running on Swedish TV2
tonight. I recommend this film to everybody who get STV2, which in
addition to Sweden include large parts of Norway.

The film goes from sad to funny to hilarious (Magnus' brother-in-law
was hilarious...:-)

I heard that the director, Thrainn Bertelsson (or whatever his name
was) had made a new movie about divorce. After cancer that was the
second funniest thing he knew about,...:-)

- Steinar
From: frisk@complex.is (Fridrik Skulason)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Norwegian whalers have the right to live!
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:50:22 GMT
Organization: Frisk Software International, Iceland

rhtfest@cs.vu.nl (Festen RHT) writes:

>  The question is ofcourse how important whale-lives are. Considering what
>you wrote, I guess you don't care that much about them?

Well, what would make the average whale-life more important than, say...the
average pig life ?

-frisk



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From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi (Tapani Hietaniemi)
Subject: Re: Karelians the palestinians of the north
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:49:32 GMT


In article <1993Jan26.135245.14663@jyu.fi>, ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:

> What I personally do not like is that the Finnish Army crossed
> the old Finnish-Russian border.  Unfortunately Finnish Army went over
> to the wrong side of the border and became an attacking army. Very bad. 


Right. This was the fatal mistake made by the Finnish government. We
were not born at that time and since we are not responsible of it, but 
still we should recognize it.

We have paid that mistake dearly. Exactly this fact makes it virtually
impossible to negotiate a new peace treaty with Russia. If Finland
would not have attacked Russia the Karelian case would be totally
different. Now, because of the sins of our fathers, Karelianism
is a lost cause.

Still,
candida pro causa ense candido
- Tapani Hietaniemi


Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: larsent@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (LARSEN  TORE HOIVAAG)
Subject: Re: NORWEGIAN WHALERS
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:47:44 GMT

steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang) writes:

>>>>>> On Tue, 19 Jan 93 22:32:50 GMT, saarinen@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sirpa Saarinen) said:

>> I agree with the person who wrote that Norway is behaving like a small
>> child:

>Why? What we're doing is to continue to harvest from the sea's
>renewable resources. Why should we stop because some furriners who
>doesn't bother to get their facts straight think this is
>*horrible*...? 

>> the re-introduction of whaling is only going to impede the further
>> development of Norway into a EC-country.

>Who the fuck wants to be living in an EC-country anyways?

 YEAAHHHH! The MAJORITY of people in Norway do NOT wish to be included
 in EC!

k>> I won't comment on the possible effect that a worldwide boycott of
>> Norwegian products will have on the state on the Norwegian economy.
>> Guys, you are playing with fire here!

>I doubt it will capture enough public interest to keep going. If
>nothing else we can live on the oil 'till it blows over. 

 Thats true! Who cares what others think. We are right anyway!

 Boycot BurgerKing!!!!

>- Steinar
From: staff@rabbit.augs.se (Staffan Friberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Re: Moen's Klint - pollution
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:20:31 CET
Organization: Amiga User Group Sweden

In article <1jm6hgINNebr@vttux1.vtt.fi> leino@rat.vtt.fi (Tapio Leino) writes:

> We puked(!) and hurried off back to Sweden where most of the lakes are still
> quite clear (except for the Skaane district!). It was the wish of our kids
> that we'll never ever go back to those southern islands of Denmark.

Actually a very clear lake is only clear because it is completely dead.
While it might look nice it isn't if you happen to know what it means.

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From: kjetil.lenes@thcave.no (Kjetil Lenes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: RE: NORWEGIAN WHALERS HAV
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Thunderball Cave BBS - Oslo, Norway  (47 2) 29 94 41
Reply-To: kjetil.lenes@thcave.no (Kjetil Lenes)


FR>   The question is ofcourse how important whale-lives are. Considerin
FR> you wrote, I guess you don't care that much about them?

This is one of those "militant vegetarians" I wrote about. Please
answer Mr. Festen (is that your name?): Why is a whale more
important than a
a) seal
b) shark
c) cod
d) mackerell
e) seagull
f) cow
g) cat
h) mouse
e) Staphylococcus Aureus

Kjetil

>XBoard 1.0 #173> Internet: kjetil.lenes@thcave.no

Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: sedergre@valt.Helsinki.FI (JARI SEDERGREN (COMM))
Subject: Re: Finnish inferiority complex? (Was: Karelians...)
Organization: University of Helsinki, Faculty of Social Sciences
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:16:48 GMT

In article <hberg.310@polisci.umn.edu> hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg) writes:

>In article <1993Jan21.121722.15499@jyu.fi> joheko@jyu.fi (Jonne Henrikki Kolima) writes:


>Translation:

>BTW Jari and other Finns, whence this sense of inferiority that radiates 
>from almost every posting?  Ryyti, of course, is an exception, a brainless 
>amoeba can't feel inderior, but in my opinion it's incomprehensible how 
>people can regard themselves as that much inferior  to Swedes + other 
>Nordics + an occasional Yank.

>Comment:
>That's exactly what I find disturbing, too!  

FLAMES ON:
Hope I don't have to read this kind of pure shit with my name on it ever
again. It was stupid enough to write that in Finnish and now it was 
translated. If Mr. Kolima and Mr. Hammarberg have something to say to me, 
please, do it in personal letter. 

Jari Sedergren
University of Helsinki
From: kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Need Kbenhavn advice
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:22:52 GMT
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden

OK, here's a post to give you Danes another reason to make nasty
comments about alcoholic Swedes...

I need to know where I can find a good store in Kxbenhavn that has a
wide selection of imported beer.  Preferrably something near one of
the ferries to Malmv, so I don't have to carry it far.  I promise to
spend lots of money discreetly, and not to drink a simple drop 'til I
get back to Malmv (or on the ferry, at least)...
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: blix@milton.cs.uiuc.edu (Gunnar Blix)
Subject: Re: Norwegian whalers have the right to live !
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:24:45 GMT

enasby@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:

>I'll leave the 
>grammatical mistakes out of my critique but you really should know 
>that when referring to the same subject we usually use the same 
>conjugation of the verb.

For someone with no sense of punctuation rules, you have a lot of
nerve.

>Still, this kind of thing is all too popular 
>over there and believe it or not a lot of Americans (maybe even most) 
>couldn't give a fuck whether or not Norway harvests a couple of 
>thousand whales a year.  In fact I wager that most people don't even 
>know about Norway's decision, let's face it there are more important 
>events going on in the world today.  

Surprisingly many Americans know about the decision through a number
of environmental organizations.  The problem is that what they know is
often extremely one-sided.  I found myself arguing with my advisor who
promptly notified me that he would stop buying Norwegian products.
The fact is many Americans who care are misinformed, and most
Americans who don't care are not going to care if Burger King stops
buying Norwegian fish and if their "Norwegian" salmon comes from
Ireland.  So, tact or no tact, unless Norway challenges what the IWC
has to say, Norway's objections will be buried in hogwash.

>The tactics were questionable the 
>lack of tact was deplorable but no one is going to get too riled up 
>about the whales for too long.  Let us (in a collective sense) put 
>this baby to rest and stop talking about it, it will be forgotten 
>quickly enough.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: Espen J. Vestre <espen@coli.uni-sb.de>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Some facts on norwegian whale-catching and fishing
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:51:19 GMT
Organization: Computerlinguistik, Universitaet des Saarlandes
Distribution: world
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Some excerpts from the Statistical Yearbook of Norway of 1988:
Excerpts from Table 301: "Small-whale catching":

Year:   Vessels:  Whales   Quantity:  Value 
                  caught:             (including subsidies):
1972    96        2695     5.2 Ktons   17.3 MKr
1973    99        2059     3.7         14.4
---(the number of whales remained quite stable in 74-82)----
1983    79        1869     3.5         45.6
1984    55         804     1.9         32.7
1985    53         771     1.8         34.6
1986    53         383     1.0         20.5
1987    50         375     1.0         21.3
---
In 1993, a quota of 700 whales is suggested.  A research report from SNF
at NHH in Bergen suggest to increase this to 1200-1700 (Aftenposten
9/1-93) to make the whale catching profitable.  (thus returning to almost
pre-1984 quotas).

For comparision, some excerpts from tables 291, 292 and 303:
(Fishermen and Fish catch)
Year:   Fishermen:  Quantity:     Value:
1984    29632       2440,0 Ktons  4356 MKr

The total value of Norwegian export of fish, seafood and preparations
thereof was in 1987 9478 MKr.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: widenius@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Risto Widenius)
Subject: Re: Beaches
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:31:45 GMT

Bjorn.B.Larsen@delab.sintef.no (Bjorn B. Larsen) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.161947@ece.arizona.edu> evans@ece.arizona.edu
>>Where are the nude beaches in the nordic countries?
>>(In the summer of course)
>In the what???
>In my part of the world we have only 2 seasons: The white winter, and
>the green winter. Of these the green is the worst, cause then we
>undress!

Yeah, but in Finland we have this incredibly long summer (52 weeks)
during which there is relatively little snow. Nudists are welcome to
Kaunissaari, Helsinki.

--
widenius@cc.helsinki.fi "But now there was worse." -Bernard Levin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen)
Subject: Re: Whalehunting
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:46:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.174135.19562@ugle.unit.no> ramikk@Mari.Unit.NO 
(Ragnar Mikkelsen) writes:


   >Has there been a discussion on this subject, and has anyone
   >explained some facts for the americans; what kind of whales are
   >hunted, stocks, what do whales eat and so on??

  Yes yes yes! We have had endless explanations of the highly scientific
character of the Norwegian penchant for whaleburgers! Let's drop it,
shall we?
From: steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
Subject: Dark Norwegians (Was: N => E => P)
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:15:22 GMT
Organization: Norwegian Inst. of Tech./University of Trondheim, Trondheim,
	Norway

> In article <4942.312.uupcb@thcave.no> kjetil.lenes@thcave.no (Kjetil Lenes) writes:

>> And come to Norway and look for yourself: At the western coast
>> dark/black hair and brown eyes are quite common.

>>> To which, cmiy565@chpc.utexas.edu (Dean) replies:

> Interesting. I wonder if there is a correlation with the so called
> 'black irish'. Who must, I assume be pigmentally distinct from a 
> very standard average.

If you mean "do they differ noticeably from the average", the answer
is "not really". I've often heard it commented by "furriners" that
they were surprised at how dark the average Norwegians were, in
particular when compeared with swedes.

I guess theis goes for skin complexion mostly, the average haircolor,
is a dark more-or-less blondish thing, and blue eyes are predominant
(which, taking in account that blue eyes are recessive, kinda makes
you wonder...:-)

- Steinar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.nordic
From: blix@milton.cs.uiuc.edu (Gunnar Blix)
Subject: Re: Tried Sour Cream Porridge ?
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:39:51 GMT

>It is a dish traditionally served during the midsummer celebration (?)
>-Anybody out there know the Swedish term ?  What do people in Sweden serve
>along with it ?  (Other than surstroemming !!)

In Norway it is eaten with "Spekemat (Spekeskinke, Fenalaar,
Morrpoelse)" which is cured ham, cured leg of lamb, and a sausage of
similar characteristics (I don't even want to know what it's made of
:-)

I don't have the recipe off hand, but could get it from one of my
cookbooks if there is interest.
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