HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Subject: Re: Bangkok Post Nov 16: May victims to sue military brass
Organization: Institute for Computational Mechanics in Propulsion-NASA LeRC
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:23:28 GMT

In article <9211151529.AA12645@ipied.tu.ac.th.tu.ac.th> 
kamol@ipied.tu.ac.th (Kamol Hengkietisak) writes:
>
> ..................
>Dr Sant said relatives of victims in the United States will file 
>lawsuits in the human rights court against each officer who 
>ordered the shooting because they cannot get justice in Thailand.
> 
>"If the court rules the five senior officers guilty, they will be 
>banned from entering the US for the rest of their lives. This 
>would be a lesson to other dictators," said CFD committee member 
>Arom Meechai.
> 
Super clever! This would not only have a direct effect of punnishing
the culprits but also psychologically and legally implying that they
are guilty.

The UN should adopt this stance as a standard procedure for future
crime against humanity. If founded guilty, the culprit should not
be allowed into all the UN member countries. Dictators in the third
world have always enjoyed their extravagant lives in the West somewhere
despite atrocities they had committed to their poor people.

-Tawit

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Tawit's rule for a successful government:

1. Give the rich a lot of tax breaks.
2. Give the middle class a lot of shopping malls.
3. Give the poor a lot of promises.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: YOU NERDY GEEKS!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:38:00 GMT

In article <102514@bu.edu>, crutiras@bu.edu (Chokdee Robert)          writes...
>In response to the article posted by TM41@lafibm.lafayette.edu
> 
>Please refrain from posting anything further in this newsgroup.  If you
>don't have anything nice to say, JUST SHUT THE MOUTH!!!!
> 
>We Thai People are proud of our country and do not need people like you
>to come into our homeland or our newsgroup and disgrace it.
> 
>Sincerely,
> 
>C. Robert Rutirasiri


I missed something here.  Waht on earth is this diatribe about?

Laurence

Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:51:09 -0500 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Part[3]: Applying for R&D grants from NSTDA

For more information, please contact

			National Science and Technology Development Agency(NSTDA)	
			Jaran Insurance Building
			401 Ratchadapisek,  Huikwang
			Bangkok 10310
			Tel. no    : 011-662-276-1314-7
			Fax.no   : 011-662-276-1326

Or                                    National Electronics and Computer
Technology Center(NECTEC)
			Ministry of Science, Technology and Environment(MoSTE)
			Ram VI Rd.  Rajtavee
                                          Banggkok 10400
                                          Tel.no    : 011-662-247-1482
			Fax.no  : 011-662-247-1335
			

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Schitt  Laowattana
Center of Operation for FIeld roBOtics Development(FIBO), Thailand
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From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Subject: Re: Bangkok/Chiang Mai bookstores
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:42:48 GMT

bushnell@eos.arc.nasa.gov () writes:


>Can anyone recommend some bookstores in Bangkok or Chiang Mai that carry 
>computer science books?  I am looking for books written in Thai.

>Thanks,
>David Bushnell
>bushnell@eos.arc.nasa.gov

In Chiangmai, I would recommend you to look for them at Suriwongse Bookstore 
on Sri+JanDon Road. The bookstore is quite a big one and have collections 
of most of books published in Thailand. 

The other one is on Hui Kaew Road. I am not sure it still opens as I left
there for almost five years. It is Suun+Nang+Sue+ChiangMai'. It also has
its branch in CMU campus. Look for it at the block between Fac of Social
Sciences and Main Library. It could have moved somewhere else but should
still be on the campus as well.

In Bangkok, I would recommend you go to Suun+Nang+Sue+Chula (Chulalongkorn
Book Center) or at Thammasat's Book Center. They both have enormous collections
of books both in Thai in English. DuangKa'MOn at Siam Square is also famous 
for its huge collections. 

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From: csulaima@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CYNTHIA R SULAIMAN)
Subject: International Sex Tourism
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:47:23 GMT

Currently I am working on a project in my Women's Study class about
international sex tourism.  I have a copy of a brochure advertising
sexual holiday packages in Thailand, but I would like to gather more
evidence to its exsitence.

If anyone has any stories, or knows of any books/pamphlets etc. on
or about the subject  I am most insterested in hearing from you.

Please reply though e-mail

Thank you

Cynthia Sulaiman


Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon)
Subject: Re: Law (Concerning Thai women)
Keywords: properties' law
Organization: Institute for Computational Mechanics in Propulsion-NASA LeRC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:02:09 GMT

In article <yFG=cgC@engin.umich.edu> orapin@kenning.engin.umich.edu 
(Orapin  chuanromanee) writes:
>
>....................
>  Last week, I came across an article in "Siam-Rad Weekly" 
>  and do you know that in Thailand  
>  it is a law that a woman once marriage HAS TO use her husband last
>  name. Yes, it is not an option, it is a must!
>     

I'm pretty sure that a (lady) firend of mine didn't change her last 
name after her marriage. My wife still use her own lastname and I like
it; but this is USA; I wonder if she would have to change it once we
return to Thailand; I  hope not.  In fact, I may set a precedence
by changing my lastname to hers!

Those ladies who get rewarded with the rank of Khunying (K. Supatra
included) should fight for this equality. (Though I suspect that
they'd be stripped off the precious ranks if they did so. :)
I would  like to see the 
law requires that a couples toss a coin to determine whose lastname
will be used. Either that or the couples continue to use their old
lastnames. There shall be no change of lastname on a voluntary basis
since this will lead to women changing lastnames to their husband's 
by social pressure.

As for the children, the law should require that they use a totally
different lastname from their parents.

This will prevent sex preference in having children and
will also discourage a couple from having too many children at the same
time.

I know this will be difficult to accept by most men who have enjoyed
the superior status quo since dawn of civilization. I know that 80%
of women would also side with those male bastards. They will find
zillions of reason to oppose this idea and the most obvious one
would be 'This Tawit guy is a lunatic who is out to destroy our
precious time-honored culture, family value, etc.'

Beware men! Don't ever elect me to the Parliament or I will
see to it that Thailand be the most advanced nation on lastname bill.

-Tawit
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People would have had average IQ long time ago had they only gained 1 IQ
point each time they accused others of being stupid.
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From: kamol@ipied.tu.ac.TH (Kamol Hengkietisak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Bangkok Post Nov 19: Investors blast govt's inaction
Date: 19 Nov 1992 14:31:27 +1100
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au


INVESTORS in the Stock Exchange of Thailand yesterday protested 
against an alleged failure by SET's top executives to take any 
action to prevent the plunge in prices when news broke of moves to 
arrest Sia Song.
 
In the morning session of trading, the Bangkok Bank of Commerce 
(BBC) shares were suspended by the SET at the request of the 
Securities Exchange Commission. 
 
Many investors resented the SET's imposing of an SP (suspension) 
sign on BBC shares and attributed this to inefficient SET measures 
to counter stock manipulation.
 
One investor said the SET had let speculation in a certain stock 
occur for a few months by not taking any action. Measures were 
finally taken after many investors had bought those shares and 
faced a loss because of rumours of action by the authorities. 
 
He said that in examining stock manipulation the SET should from 
time to time let the public know the extent of the practice. The 
SET president should inform investors of the situation. 
 
Some investors said the SET was too late in acting and claimed the 
SET has no clear measures to resolve such problems. The SET 
president should therefore resign. 
 
The SP sign on BBC stock and news from the SEC about moves to 
arrest Song Watcharasriroj caused many investors to panic. They 
sold out many stocks, with the SET index plunging 38.23 to close 
at 853.26 points for the first trading session. 
 
In the afternoon, the market opened with a further fall, reaching 
its lowest point for the day, a drop of 57.14 at 2:41 p.m. 
 
After an announcement by Finance Minister Tarrin Nimmanhaeminda 
that the Finance Ministry and the private sector will set up a 
fund to prop the market, the index rebounded to close at 868.04, 
an overall fall for the day of 23.45. The index ended lower in all 
sectors.
 
The rebound in the afternoon was partly because of buying by 
people targetting shares with good fundamentals. 
 
Adkinson Securities Co research manager Chaiwat Ek-rojrattana 
blamed the fall on panic selling. The situation has implications 
for brokerage firms which lent funds to Sia Song's group for 
shares trading.
 
He said the losses amount to at least 5-6,000 million baht. Even 
though the Thai economy is in good condition and the Finance 
Ministry is helping, the index will fall further because of the 
effect on the thinking of investors.
 
The rebound in the index before the market closed was due to 
buying pressure from foreign investors, some brokers and mutual 
fund companies.
 
Siam City Credit Finance and Securities manager of the stock 
analysts' division Porntip Kruwongpaiboon agrees with Mr Chaiwat 
on the cause of the losses. 
 
She said the fall is mainly in speculative shares and in the short 
term the index has opportunities to rebound.
From: kamol@ipied.tu.ac.TH (Kamol Hengkietisak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Bangkok Post Nov 23: Doctors leaving govt services in drove
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:00:34 +1100
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au


Khon Kaen -- Brain drain in the public health sector has reached a 
critical level with only one doctor per 6,000 people, Public 
Health Minister Boonphan Kaewattana said yesterday.
 
Speaking after inspecting the Srinakarin and Central hospitals in 
this northeastern province, Minister Boonphan said that there were 
now only 5,600 doctors working in state hospitals and health care 
insitutions throughout the country.
 
Most doctors are leaving the state sector to work in private 
hospitals where the pay is four to five times higher. The problem 
is particularly acute in the provinces, Mr Boonphan said.
 
To cope with the exodus of state doctors to private hospitals the 
Public Health Ministry is working with the University Affairs 
Bureau to increase the number of doctors graduateing each year to 
1,500.
 
The minister admitted the plan had its limitations because it took 
six years to train a doctor.
 
In the Northeast there are currently two hospitals -- Khon Kaen 
Central and Ubon Ratchathani's Sappasitprasong Hospital -- which 
train fourth, fifth and sixth year medical students.
 
To increase the number of graduates such training places will have 
to be increased. Two hospitals which have high capability and 
could serve as training gounds are Surin and Udon Thani provincial 
hospitals.
 
Retired practitioners in various fields will be recruited to train 
medical students and the ministry will arrange a budget for the 
scheme, Mr Boonphan said.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: geo@sunburn.uwaterloo.ca ()
Subject: Re: Law (Concerning Thai women)
Keywords: properties' law
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:04:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.170209.10217@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon) writes:
>In article <yFG=cgC@engin.umich.edu> orapin@kenning.engin.umich.edu 
>(Orapin  chuanromanee) writes:
>>
>>....................
>>  Last week, I came across an article in "Siam-Rad Weekly" 
>>  and do you know that in Thailand  
>>  it is a law that a woman once marriage HAS TO use her husband last
>>  name. Yes, it is not an option, it is a must!
>>     
>
Really?  I thought that it's optional.
>
>Those ladies who get rewarded with the rank of Khunying (K. Supatra
>included) should fight for this equality. (Though I suspect that
>they'd be stripped off the precious ranks if they did so. :)

Please correct me if I'm wrong.  Khunying Supatra married to an army
whose last name is Kesornsuk (I can't remember his first name) years ago.
However, she never change her last name from Masadis.

May be she fought already :)

Korchoke
From: kamol@ipied.tu.ac.TH (Kamol Hengkietisak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Bangkok Post Nov 17: Court rejects claims against Tribunal
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:04:44 +1100
Organization: Mail/News gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: munnari.oz.au


THE Civil Court yesterday rejected a complaint from two activists 
contesting the validity of the Constitution Tribunal ruling on the 
Parliament's rejecion of the Amnesty Decree.
 
  The complaint was lodged by two lawyers, Varunchai Chokechana 
and Boonrith Ketsamai.  
 
They asked the court to declare the tribunal ruling invalid, 
claming the tribunal had no power to rule on the decree because it 
no longer existed after its earlier rejection by the Parliament.
 
Civil Court deputy chief justice Suwan Trakarnpan and chief judge 
Vibul Nonthachuti decided the lawyers lacked the legal grounds to 
fight the case in court and rejected the complaint.
 
Democrat MP Mr Preecha Suwannatat said United States-based 
relatives of people killed in the May crackdown could take legal 
action against military commanders of the operation but it was up 
to the courts to decide whether they would hear the case.
 
He said the Executive Decree had been wrongly issued from the 
start as governments were not authorised to issue laws which 
withhold criminal prosecution, but the Constitution Tribunal 
ruling meant the amnesty was now effective and must be accepted.
 
Mr Preecha also said verdicts reached in cases in the United 
States could not be enforced in Thailand.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Tai
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:31:01 GMT


Can anyone tell me the reason that many central Thai people often look
down on Khon Mueng (Lanna-Thai) and Khon Lao (Laanchang) when we all share
the same blood of being Tai.  If the German can have their reunification,
why can't we Tai have our own "The United Tai"?  Let's call our country
"Mueng Thai or Mueng Tai".  This way we don't have to mess with half
Farang half Thai like what we're using now.  "Thailand"! what a funny name.

Thian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: dkgg1568@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (guyot daniel karl)
Subject: telephone jack adapter
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:49:05 GMT
Keywords: telephone jack adapter

Sawasdee, Hello, Ok again-

Sorry to bother you with my personal electronic problems.  I've just been
told that I need a RJ11 telephone jack adapter in order to use my modem in
Thailand. Does anyone know where to buy this kind of adapter in Thailand?
I've been told there is a company called "tele-adapt" in the United Kindom
that sells them.  Maybe they have an outlet in Thailand?

Thank you.

Dan the Bug Man


Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: levis@iesd.auc.dk (Tommy Larsen)
Subject: Re: Tai
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University
	<1992Nov19.073101.10919@news2.cis.umn.edu>
	<9232815.501@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
	<1992Nov23.190554.5882@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:48:36

   In article <9232815.501@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> noi@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Nittida Nuansri) writes:
   >bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu () writes:
   >
   >
   >>Can anyone tell me the reason that many central Thai people often look
   >>down on Khon Mueng (Lanna-Thai) and Khon Lao (Laanchang) when we all share
   >
   >You forgot "Khon Tai^" (sothern people).
   >
   >How about the answer is "because they are envy those people somehow"? :-)
   >Such as we (not central people) can speak more than one language
   >while they can not.
   >
   >Take it easy, please.  I don't mean to create a war.   Just want to say that
   >may be because of the difference of language used in different part and
   >people can make fun on it.  I don't think they really mean to look donw
   >on thers so much.
   >
   >Nittida


   I couldn't disagree more.  Although it's not as bad as racism in America,
   the tention in our country is beyond just making fun of different accents.
    It comes with all kinds of discriminations, like jobs, and marriages for
   example.
   After all, making fun of people's way of life shows how insensitive our
   society is.

   Regards.

   Thian

-----

Hi all!

When I read this, a question came to mind:

Has this kind of discrimination been going on for generations, or
could it be caused by the change in thai culture due to increased
industry and materialism?




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 levis@iesd.auc.dk    --    Tommy Larsen,  Sonjavej 58,  9000 Aalborg,  Denmark
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From: cvadrbha@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: <None>
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:08:51 GMT
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadrbha

Siam center book store DOES sell Thai CD's.  There's also another store 
across the street (and down?) that sells only Thai music (CD's and tapes).
From: kochpat%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Dan Kochpatcharin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Pop music??
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:01:28 GMT
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


Hi all,
	Thanks for all the info.  I will try to ask them next time.

Thanks,
Dan


UNALOME TECHAMUANVIVIT (cslac2209@bestsd.sdsu.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov12.231516.22235@lsil.com>, kochpat%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Dan Kochpatcha writes...
: > 
: >	One more question, is CD popular in Thailand.  I went to the Thai
: >bookstore(Siam Book Center) in L.A. last month, and did not see any
: >C.D..  Actually, I have never seen any Thai CD being sold there. 
: 
:    Really? That's strange! Are you referring to the bookstore near Bangluk 
: Market in Hollywood?  
: 
:    You should be able to find a lot of CD's down there since I bought all mine
: there.  A CD's is normally sold for $19.  A bit more expensive than American's
: CD...probably the shipping cost. :)
: 
:   You might want to try asking for them next time you go.  The CD's shack is 
: right behind the counter...not very visible..that might be why you didn't 
: notice them in the first place.
: 
: Unalome

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LSI LOGIC CORPORATION.
1501 McCarthy Blvd.		Phone: (408) 954-4877
MS E-192			Fax:   (408) 433-6802
Milpitas, CA 95035		email: kochpat@qafs2.lsil.com
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From: suntich@egr.msu.edu (Montree Suntichaikul)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Thai music question: Tuning a Kim+
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:09:52 GMT
Reply-To: suntich@egr.msu.edu (Montree Suntichaikul)
Organization: Michigan State University
Originator: suntich@frith.egr.msu.edu

In article <15471@auspex-gw.auspex.com> tstil@Auspex.COM (Tim Stilwell) writes:
>Sawasdee Khrup Tuk Kon
>
>Does anybody know this...
>
>	Thai music is based on scales of 7 full tones?  
>	
    Thai classical music scale is not chromatic scale. (12 full notes)

---
Montree Suntichaikul

suntich@ee.msu.edu,  suntich@cps.msu.edu
From: suntich@gypsum.egr.msu.edu (Montree Suntichaikul)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Thai-Thai'Thai"Thai^Thai+
Keywords: Thai, joke
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:03:34 GMT
Reply-To: suntich@ee.msu.edu
Organization: EE Department, Michigan State University

In article <Bxs94y.3tF@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong) writes:
|> fstawit@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon) writes:
|> 
|> >......... stuffs deleted
|> 
|> 
|> >Thai", n:     A bag in which Thai officials keep their ransom money.
|> 
|> I was trying to convert this transliteration into an audio form but 
|> I still could not figure out what it is. Would Khunt Tawit kindly elaborate
|> a bit what it is like? 

   Try this:    Tai+    (sometimes it can be combined with "Reed-Tai+")     

-- 
Montree Suntichaikul

EE Department, Michigan State University
E-Mail: suntich@ee.msu.edu, suntich@atlantic.cps.msu.edu (Internet)
        suntich@msuegr.BITNET (Bitnet)
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Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:56:06 -0500 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: PC Software sale to double in 1992

    The total market value for original PC software in Thailand was
estimated to be US$ 4 million in 1992 reflecting a growth about 100
percent over 1991, according to Thaisoft General Manager Vira Intanet.
    
        (Excerpted from Bangkok Post , June 19,1992)

Posted and circulated by

:-Schitt  Laowattana
Center of Operation for FIeld roBOtics Development
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: jack@cloud3.met.fsu.edu (JACK)
Subject: Tropical Storm Forrest Strikes Southern Thailand
Keywords:  Tropical Storm
Reply-To: jack@cloud3.met.fsu.edu
Organization: FSU-Meteorology Department
Distribution:  world
Date: 15 NOV 92 18:17:44    

   Tropical Storm Forrest struck southern Thailand on 15 November. According
to information from the Joint Typhoon Warning Center on Guam, the storm made
landfall east of Phuket with 60 kt (110 km/hr) winds. It then moved across the
Malay Peninsula into the Andaman Sea. If anyone on this group has any meteor-
ological information, or reports of damage and casualties, could you please 
either post it to this group, or e-mail it to me?

Jack Beven
FSU Meteorology Dept.
jack@cloud3.met.fsu.edu


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