From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Can Colorado discriminate against straights?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:22:08 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <Nov11.195024.69810@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> doug@crevasse.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Doug Cripe) writes:
>
>>We can't serve in the military.  
>
>General Collin Powell said in a recent interview with Barbara Walters that  
  [stuff about how the general doesn't want gays in the military deleted]
>The problem is you want government sanction of your lifestyle, and the  
>majority of Americans won't stand for that.

   Too bad for you and the general, guy.  Signing away that homophobic rule
is one of the first thing Clinton plans to do.
 
>>We can't marry our partners. 
>
>Do you think it is sheer coincidence that no civilized nation on this  
>planet includes homosexuality in the definition of marriage?  Marriage,  
>from time immemorial, has always been defined as the joining of a man and  
>a woman, forming the basic family unit.  

    "Time immemorial", huh?  Hate to break the news, but there is a large
body of evidence, about to be published by an historian at Yale, that the
ceremony for same-sex marraige not only exists in Catholic law, but
pre-dates that for opposite-sex unions.  Strangely, the church prefers not
to acknowledge the existance of these vows...
    "Basic family unit"??  Says who...you and J. Danforth Quayle?

>>We aren't covered by inheritance laws.  
>
>Of course not.  Inheritance again is defined in terms of family bloodlines  
>the world over.  I can just imagine the chaos that would ensue when Bill,  
>who was Bob's lover for 3 months, not to mention Bob's 100 other lovers,  
>starts trying to make inheritance claims after Bob passes on. 

    Prejudicial, stereotypical drivel concerning gays' number of partners.

>>We don't get visitation rights when our partners are hospitalized.
>
>Here, I'll agree with you that this isn't right, although I can't imagine  
>under what circumstances this would happen.

    You don't need to imagine, m'boy.  Visitation rights are routinely
denied to same-sex partners when the orders are for "family only".

>>We can't adopt children.  
>
>Nor should this ever come about, in light of the fact that study after  
>study after study has shown that children need parents of BOTH genders to  
>grow up well-adjusted.    

    Name three studies, please.  I'll wait.

>> And what is it with straight boys and sodomy, anyway?  Why
>> do they obsess about it so?  And why do they consider it
>> a "homosexual" practice, when straight couples do it all the
>> time? 
>
>What is it??? If you don't find inserting your penis where excrement comes  
>from disgusting, then I doubt you are capable of finding anything  
>repulsive.  Moral  questions and health aside, even a cursory exam of  
>human anatomy shows the "plumbing" is such that a man was meant for a  
>woman. The anus, if you hadn't noticed, has a specific function and when  
>it is abused you see the result of how quickly diseases are spread.  And  
>how would you know what straight couples do?  I doubt they "do it all the  
>time."  I even doubt the majority of them do it some of the time.  None of  
>my married friends (at least the ones who are frank enough to talk about  
>their sexual practices) admit to doing it. 

    I am not at all surprised by this last statement.  You seem to be the
type that considers anything outside of missionary-position pumping for 25
seconds to be perverse.  

>I doubt that I am responsibile for your unhappiness, or that I'm really  
>even capable of keeping you from living the life you choose.  I have no  
>problem working with homosexuals as long as they keep their affairs to  
>themselves (as I will mine).  But do not expect me to just roll over and  
>accept the homosexual community's attempt to redefine laws or seek  
>protected status.

    No, not you, but the large collection of those who think like you, in
addition to you, have amply demonstrated your ability to discriminate
against us.
 

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     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ.