From: stacey@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Stacey B. Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: Dave's chart
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:09:17 GMT
Organization: AUS
Originator: news@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu

In article <1992Oct7.100327.15342@tfs.com>, ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic) writes:
> 
> to be being much more attentive to my next - I'm not finished with Dave's,
> if he engages with me in conversation about it.

Feels kind of incomplete to have no immediate feedback from Dave. However, I don't
think he'll ever respond to me - my merc is conj pluto conj my mc in Leo -squared
to his moon. (Sometimes reverse psychology works. :-) )
> 
> Stacey - not that you care, maybe, but there are several charts pending to
> read in ROM; my point there was to show the 'occult' fact of being able to
> read a person to themself through the chart, sight unseen, to a fair degree
> (which the stalwart skeptics doubt), then to go on to show what astrology
> does. They all think it's some sort of mechanical discipline or something,
> not an organic human thing (don't they skeptics all ...) --- so, if you'd
> like to read an unread-as-yet chart I can send info, and/or you can supply
> your own version of a chart - a second opinion, which in fact will show these
> people how widely methods and outlooks vary (while if they are smart, they
> will see some correspondences) - then let me know.

Yeah, I'd like to. I did see on ROM that you had run some charts on other people,
but I haven't read them. I have no way of running a chart myself, so you'd have
to give me the info. Speaking of which, I saw that you had posted your own chart
info but without house cusps. Why can't we have them? :-)
 
> If your reading of Dave's chart was not crossposted to rec.org.mensa, do you
> mind if I post a copy?

I don't mind at all. 

> I'd also be curious as to your assessment of what I wrote about Dave, as I
> have not much feel for the character of my style. As re: advice, you gave
> him much more advice than I did. So the Davester already had Saturn bash him -
> ah, my psyche says that's what it's all about, his being here, brooding,
> hounding us, prove it, prove it, until he sees himself rushing at himself in
> the mirror.
> 
> Jeez, Stacey, thanks.
> 
> -ecsd
> 
>
I liked your assessment of Dave. I have some different ideas about what some of
placements and aspects are about. But that's what it's all about. :-) I particularly liked
your explanation of Sat in the 4th, and I think it's another support for this
5th-11th business in his chart. Don't you find that a theme which is important to
a chart is repeated over and over in various ways? 

Whatever it was that you said about the Aries Jup (and I can't find the exact words)
I don't agree with. That jup and mars bother me - they're free floating in the chart.
But mars as the ruler of the 7th appears back in the first, so I think there is
definitely a reflection-projection thing going on (but don't we ALL project to the
7th in one way or another?). An aries jup is wild (I have one, also). It has
boundless energy and enthusiasm, fired by the imagination, and then sputters out
rather quickly. :-)  Actually, I could see Dave as being a person who gets really
fired up over someone, but it doesn't last very long. But I have a feeling that
it has more meaning than that, and at this point, I'm not sure what it is.

I think that the Nep-Moon opp is the reason for his appearance in this group. I don't
have any idea when he first showed up, but Pluto by transit has conjuncted that
Nep. The second house has everything to do with what a person VALUES. On one
level it is the acquisition of material wealth, but I think it always goes back to
what do we want to own for ourselves. And with a Scorpio Neptune in the 2nd opp
to a moon in the 8th, I think the spiritual or psychological implications can't
be ignored. Of course, it could also mean wanting great sex. :-)  (I think this
transiting scorpio venus has done something to my brain.) 

Well, well, well... I looked again. Saturn is sextile to that Jupiter in the 7th.
Here we go again. :-)

One other thing - his Uranus in that Virgo stellium in the 11th - maybe Dave has
picked a really obvious way to get involved. Astrology discussions on a computer. :-)

I have a chart that I want to post here, if I can get the information together.
It's a KILLER. I can't wait to see what you guys come up with.

Stacey