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From: kgraff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Kathy A Graff)
Subject: Macintosh Users Group Meeting
Originator: kgraff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: milw
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:10:41 GMT

Announcing:

                      SEPTEMBER DOUBLE CLICK MAIN MEETING

                         Sunday, September 20, 2:00 PM
                           Bolton Hall, Room B46
                                UW-M campus

Double Click is the Macintosh Users Group of Milwaukee. If you use a 
Macintosh computer or are interested in them, please come. These 
meetings open to the general public. You don't have to be a member 
to attend.

AGENDA:

     * Demonstration of shareware and freeware available on 
       Double Click Disk # 81
     * Question and answer session
     * News and announcements
     * Reports from the Special Interest Groups (SIG's)

     * Break

     * Main Demonstration:
       
       This month's meeting is for beginners. (And experienced users 
       who want a review or to learn some new tricks!) We will be 
       showing everything beginning with how to set up your computer.
        
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Double Click activities:

DATE/TIME          GROUP                CONTACT
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September

20 (Sun) 2:00 PM   MAIN MEETING         kgraff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
                   Specially for Beginners
                   B46 Bolton Hall, UW-M

24 (Thur) 7:00 PM  Programmers          Warren Miller 1-284-7169
                                        wleemiller@aol.com

                   MIDI-Music SIG will not meet in September
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October

 7 (Wed) 7:00 PM   Telecommunications   Jim Macak 964-3147

12 (Mon) 7:00 PM   Multi Media          Jim Wamser 774-7336

14 (Wed) 7:00 PM   Business             Randy Groh 548-0159
                                        rgroh@aol.com

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Subject: RE: What's wrong with my Mac Plus?
Organization: FidoNet node 8:7000/57.5 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 00:16:02 GMT

  GS> The transformer is a common problem on older Macs.  Get Larry Pina's
  GS> book on Mac repair secrets.  He clearly shows how to diagnose & repair
  GS> this problem - and many others.  Also, get a fan!
  GS> 
  GS> --- Tabby 2.2
  GS>  * Origin: Association Mac 313-695-6955 1:2240/175 8:74/180 (1:2240/175)

I second that. We had a Mac Plus several years back that needed a board
replacement
every year or so. We sure appreciated having AppleCare then. Eventually we put
a Kensington fan on and viola, no more problem for the next few years until
we traded up to another Mac model.

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:16437 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:12568 comp.sys.amiga:258
From: Jesse
Subject: After Dark 2.0s works fine with sys 7.0.1
Originator: cyen@ponder.csci.unt.edu
Organization: Computer Science Dept .of UNT
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:02:17 GMT

I found something both funny and strange in sys 7.0.1.

If you use after dark 2.0s in Mac IIsi under sys 7.0.1, you should find the
speed of after dark is pretty slow, even when you switch speed to the fastest.

But funny thing is when you turn on the balloons help, the speed of after dark
will become normal.

I don't know why this happened. Do you have any idea?

Jesse

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From: Dan.Hughes@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Hughes)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: APPLEWORKS TRANSLATOR
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 21:55:57 -0500

MacWrite II will read Appleworks files if you have
the proper translator in your Claris Translator folder.
The AW translator comes with MW II. What you need to do
is get your AW files on a Prodos 3.5" disk, then use 
Apple File Exchange to convert the Apple II files to
Mac files. Then you can open them with MacWrite II.

From: Tim.Waire@f1138.n261.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Waire)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Registered Apple Developers?
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 22:15:02 -0500

I am presently using a graphical BBS called TeleFinder and have decided to
switch to a similar product called FirstClass by SoftArc of Canada because of
their strong gateway products.

SoftArc has a gateway toolkit that helps to develop gateways to other systems
for expanded connectivity (Fax, Internet, MS-Mail, etc).  Since FirstClass does
not currently have a gateway that can import/export mail with FidoNet I offered
to write one.  What I proposed was a gateway that would merely read and write
files in the format required by Tabby, the current defacto FidoNet mailer for
the Mac.  Tabby could then run in the background.

Anyway, it turns out that since SoftArc is a registered Apple developer, they
insist that anyone who develops gateways with their toolkit be a registered
Apple developer.

The big question, how does a pion like me with a home brewed BBS inexpensively
become a registered Apple developer to write a simple gateway product for a
BBS?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

Tim

-- 
Timothy A. Waire, Jr.                                Integrated Network Systems
INTERNET: waire@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu                   P.O. Box 5874
The Johns Hopkins University                         Baltimore, MD 21208-2446
Electrical Engineering & Computer Science            BBS: (410) 9227743 V32bis

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joel E Callan)
Subject: SE 4/20, ImageWriterII, + goodies $1K
Originator: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:04:20 GMT

-- 
 In the meantime, happy computing!
         May you sit on the tack of success and rise to the occassion...

  /`-_                               !!!
From: barnett@grymoire.crd.ge.com (Bruce Barnett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: High Res Printers
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:19:05 GMT
Reply-To: barnett@crdgw1.ge.com
Organization: GE Corp. R & D, Schenectady, NY


In a similar thread to Kip Kippley...

I am interested in a low cost (<$2000) high resolution (400dpi+)
PostScript printer. So far the NewGen Turbo PS/400p at selling price
of under $1795 looks like a good choice. Another might be the HP
LaserJet III with PostScript.  Does anyone have a recommendation on
these or other printers? I would rather have high resolution than
speed (PPM) and want Appletalk compatability. I read the review in
Byte Magazine. The only other low cost high resolution printer they
mentioned was the IBM, which doesn't support Appletalk.

Please reply by mail. Thanks. I'll summarize.
--
Bruce Barnett <barnett@crd.ge.com> uunet!crdgw1!barnett
From: Kip.Kippley@macnet.omahug.org (Kip Kippley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Printers cost too much!
Date: 05 Sep 92 12:55:11 CST
Reply-To: kip.kippley@macnet.omahug.org
Organization: Macnet Omaha
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc

In averting the 1000s of Macs cost too much. NOT! posts, I started a new
string. WARNING: ONLY DISCUSS LASER PRINTERS. No inkjets, no 24 pin printers.

In looking at the cost differences between Apple product and IBMs the issue of 
printers always comes up. You can buy an Epson Laser Printer for around $800
but a Personal Laserwriter NTR will run you $1500 in education circles. Are
there other printers out there that are Appletalk compatible that are UNDER
$1500??

                           ** Kip **

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: YAA - Yet Another Acronymn
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:06:14 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Sep10.014315.1@vax1.umkc.edu> tmaehl@vax1.umkc.edu writes:

>	ADB	Apple Desktop Bus
>	ADSP	Appletalk Data Streaming Protocol (?)
>	AFP	Appletalk Filing Protocol(?)
>	ARA	Appletalk Remote Access(?)
>	DAL	Data Access Language
>	DAM	Data Access Manager
>	OCE	Open Collaberative Effort
>	PDA	Personal Digital Assistant
>	PIE	Personal Intelligent Electronics(?)

Fortunately, most of these are programmer- rather than user-level
features.  Apple PIE is the name of a corporate division and probably
an excuse to say things like "Products as easy as...." in the marketing
literature.

>Of course, no mac programmer would fail to recognize HIG, MPW or IM,

Well, I don't recognize HIG.  I'd guess it probably stands for
Human Interface Notes, but I don't think I've seen it before. 


>Still, I wonder if acronymns don't help sell computers, especially
>into business. 

>Saying: "We're intending to implement both EDI and EIS services using
>SQL through DAL over DAM on an ISDN LAN, tied to PDA and PIE's through
>OCE via ARA as a WAN, and RSTS public keys for DSV," sure sounds a lot
>more impressive than saying, "We're going to use Macs and Newtons to
>provide e-mail and sales figures to the executive staff."

>Which do *you* think the VP of CIS will be to get the CFO to
>sign a PO for? <grin>

Actually, I don't think the acronyms would make the VP more
likely to sign the purchase order.  I do think it would make
him less likely to ask a lot of questions before he signs the
purchase order.  If it's something he thinks can understand,
he may want to know all the details.  If it's a string of
mumb-jumbo buzzwords, he may be afraid to ask.

Being able to use a lot of jargon also makes your job sound
important.  If you make it sound too simple, people may wonder
if it's worth the salary they're paying you.
From: Jerome Chan <yjc@po.cwru.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Multi-Scripts in System Seven Point One
Date: 6 Sep 1992 15:18:35 GMT
Organization: The Tofu Society of Singapore
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b61539.student.cwru.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6CF9A414901F063@b61539.student.cwru.edu>
X-XXDate: Sun, 6 Sep 92 16:21:37 GMT

  If Apple includes worldscript in system seven point one, how does it
intend to support the various language scripts? Do I buy them seperately
from seven point one? Do the various language scripts come with True Type
fonts/ ATM fonts or bitmap fonts?

  Will Seven point one be distributed via normal sources (InterNet,
Compuserv, AOL, e.t.c.) or will we have to buy them?

    Sorry, Im just curious.

---
 The Evil Tofu
From: baltman@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Brian Altman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: *.fli viewer for the mac?
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:37:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Is there one on an ftp site, or is this an impossible quest?

-Brian "God" Altman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: First Taligent Won't Run Existing Apps
From: alanb@sdl.mdcbbs.com (Alan Braggins)
Date: 08 Sep 92 16:12:21 GMT
Organization: Shape Data (Division of EDS), Cambridge UK
In-reply-to: putzolu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu's message of 5 Sep 92 02:49:57 GMT

>>>>> On 5 Sep 92 02:49:57 GMT, putzolu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (David Putzolu) said:

> In article <ewright.715553413@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
>>In <nigel.715395259@saturn> nigel@socs.uts.edu.au (Nigel Pearson) writes:
>>
>>>	1) MacOs already does this at times. You shove a disk in, and mouse
>>>	   response, or file de-compression speed slows down.
>>
>>Yes, but with a preemptive operating system, that can happen *anytime*,
>>not just at well-defined times, such as in response to a disk-insert
>>event.

You say that as if you think it was a bad thing...

>>>>Preemptive multitasking only works well for noninteractie, batch-oriented
>>>>systems or interactive systems with multiple processors.  
>>
>>>	Bullshit.
>>
>>Oh, very clever.  That convinces me *completely*.

Try using Unix, VMS, OS/2, AmigaOS or any other operating system designed with
pre-emptive multitasking. Cooperative multitasking is a usable workaround, but
to claim it as optimal is ridiculous.

--
Alan Braggins, Shape Data (A Division of EDS Ltd), Cambridge, UK +44-223-316673
   "Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced."
 "My employer does not necessarily share my views - but I'm working on it."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: 32 bit Quickdraw on a Plus----NOT
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<1992Sep8.150041.1@idicl1.idi.battelle.org>
	<1992Sep9.193017.24158@news.uiowa.edu>
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:17:04 GMT

> dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert) writes:

   This is EXTREMELY wishful thinking :-) but will Quickdraw GX result in any
   speed increase for drawing (especially bitmap fonts in a terminal program) to
   the screen on a Plus?  That would be reason enough for me to move from System
   6.0.5 to System 7.1 right there...

GX won't be in 7.1. Maybe it'll run as plug-in for 7.1 though,
who knows? Anyway, terminal programs will have to be re-written
to take advantage of QuickDraw GX, and it will be some time before
that happens.

Also, I think that QuickDraw already is quite optimized for drawing
bitmapped fonts; the problem is more probably with your terminal
program...

-- 
Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Sweden, Phone +46-8-107069

Help eradicate FIDO-Net <-> Usenet gateways in our time!
From: arnold@violet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Help!  Error code -127
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:33:02 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: UC Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: lew1mac39.cchem.berkeley.edu

I tried to open my address book file in Address Book Plus (v2.0) and received
the error code -127.  I can't copy the file, but it will open in MS Word using
'Open Any File'.  If someone knows how to fix this, I'd really appreciate
knowing what to do. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf)
Subject: AppleLink Mail from the Internet?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:27:58 GMT

I would like to send mail to someone on Applelink from my port here on the 
Internet.  What is the prefix/suffix I need for this?

Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: walton@gcnext.gac.peachnet.edu (Sam Walton)
Subject: Re: Help: Require INTERNET email address for Salient
Summary: Use AOL
Organization: Georgia College - Milledgeville, GA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:44:10 GMT

In article <34sis-c@massey.ac.nz> N.Perry@massey.ac.nz writes:
>
>I just tried to email Salient, something I've done many times in the
>past, and got the following:
>
<stuff deleted>

If Salient is on America Online, which I think they are, you can reach them
there.

Applelink and Compuserve charge for mail from Internet so they discontinued
receiving them. But AOL does not charge. Check to see.

hope this helps, sam walton
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.misc
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: Macs as X-terminals on VMS machines?
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:06:58 GMT

In article <BuAo47.ECr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schwartz@feh.scs.uiuc.edu (Dwight A. Schwartz) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.210235.26902@linus.mitre.org> ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei) writes:
>
>>	I'm looking for any and all info on using Macs as X-terminals
>>into Vaxes running VMS (actually, DecWindows - DECs proprietary
>>implementation of X).
>
>	Apple (I think it is Apple), sells an application called MacX.
>I have successfully used it to display xclock on a Mac IIcx.  
>The xclock client was actually executing on a Silicon Graphics Personal 
>Iris, but I suppose that any X client would do (famous last words????).  

MacX works pretty well.  I do warn you that you'll need a Mac II with a
large screen and an Ethernet card to do anything terribly useful, and the
one-button mouse can become a problem as well.

>	I can't vouch for its performance with other, more sophisticated
>applications.

It's not bad in monochrome mode, but if you attempt to use a color display
mode, the speed decreases considerably.  It's not up to the speed of a good
Xterminal, but it's a lot less expensive if you already have a Mac II on
your desk.
--scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: sctsar@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (William Tsarones)
Subject:  OCR/Forms
Reply-To: sctsar@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (William Tsarones)
Organization: NASA/LeRC
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:25:16 GMT

I need to find out if a Mac application exists that performs the following:

1.  Scans in a pre-existing form that has handwritten entries

2.  Separates the fields (optically) from the paper form and drops in the 
entries on a matching form already on the computer.

If anyone out there could help me with this, I'd be greatly appreciative. We're 
looking for a better way to do our timecards. The employees currently fill in 
their own timecards over a 2 week period, then all of that data is typed in again 
manually when the timecards are turned in. Not real efficient.

Thanks for any info concerning this.

Bill Tsarones
sctsar@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov
From: pricec@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (price carl wayne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:49:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Sep08.204918.2686
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)


>>Just ALT-click on the disk icon title and type something you like. That 
>>only works in WPS but in a command line window nobody would like to use 
>>a drive name like "Price Carl Wayne`s floppy"

>So, if WPS is great, why do you need a command-line window?  For that
>matter, if WPS is so great (and intuitive), why don't you call it by 
>a real name, instead of yet another TLA (three-letter acronym)? 

Edward,
   I have already explained to you via e-mail that WPS has a name and
it is the WorkPlace Shell, and that the acronym is for convience.  I 
have also explained that the name of a program, shell, interface, whatever
in no way affects the performance of that program, etc.  I have also
explained that some individuals like the CLI and in some cases it is 
a better alternative than the GUI (anytime the CPU needs to be used 
intensivly then a GUI will take processor time from your app)

I am begining to believe that you are just spreading FUD to amuse yourself.

--Carl

-- 
Carl W. Price		 	*      * Work keeps us from three evils:     * 
Computer Engineering Student	*      * boredom, vice, and need.            *
Oregon State University		*      *                                     *
pricec@prism.cs.orst.edu	*      *       ---Voltaire                   *
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: YAA - Yet Another Acronymn
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:28:24 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep10.065814.23262@physics.ucla.edu>, price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes:
> In article <1992Sep10.014315.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, tmaehl@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>
>>	ADSP	Appletalk Data Streaming Protocol (?)
>
> This one doesn't count -- it's an FLA, not a TLA.  :)

I think you'll find that "TLA" is a generic term for nLAs, not just 3LAs.
This may have been discussed on alt.tla. It may even be mentioned in TNHD.

-LDO
From: mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Powerbook 100 discontinued (Apple UK Sillyness)
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:53:28 GMT
Organization: New York University

> 
> Stranger still, I just got a letter from Apple UK (they have a new glossy 
> called "The Edge") which said - "you can now buy a PB100 4/40 from your
> dealer for \pounds 995 (ish)..." so I went and our dealer told me that 
> they had a message from Apple saying "please don't sell any more PB100s".
> 
> What I'm wondering is why the hasty withdrawral? Margins too low? Sony 
> going to sue? 


HUH?  What's Sony got to do with it?


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From: bcek1@cus.cam.ac.uk (B.C.E. Khoo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Ricardo Batista's address
Summary: What's his E-mail address?
Date: 6 Sep 92 09:18:37 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

I have a control panel by him -- Backlight Control, very useful! -- and no
documentation. I need his e-mail address so that I can ask him for (a) the docs
and (b) his permission to post it to the standard FTP sites. However, whatever
documentation I have by him does not quote his address.

Could somebody help me please -- E-mail me the address and I'll be very
grateful.

Bernard Khoo
Wellcome/CRC Institute and University Medical School.
University of Cambridge, UK.

E-mail: BCEK1@phx.cam.ac.uk or @cus.cam.ac.uk

Disclaimer: This does not represent the opinion of the organisations of which
I am a member.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jasonh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Jason Haines)
Subject: SpeedyFinder7
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 12:06:39 GMT

Tried to send email to you at MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU, but it bounced.

Peter,
 
Good to know you got it working with MICN but without CramBar. I haven't got
CramBar, but I'll look at it to see if there's a problem. Conquering the
dialogue box problem. I suggest you undo your changes to the Finder as it
has been fixed in v1.5.3 available now!
 
  Victor Tan, Author

-- 
Jason Haines - System Operator, MacInTouch BBS (02) 743-5997 (TeleFinder)
jasonh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
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From: bach@brahms.udel.edu (Baskaran Subramaniam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Utility to convert TIFF -> .PCX (PC Paintbrush) format?
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:28:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Delaware



I want to convert a whole bunch of TIFF files to use on a PC clone.  These
are TIFF files on a Mac.  Is there a utility to convert these file to
.PCX format files? 
 
I would greatly appreciate your help.

Thanks,

Baskaran
(bach@brahms.udel.edu)