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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Ohio St Greatest -- Results
Keywords: Fear, surprise, and an almost fanatical devotion to the Rat
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:36:30 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

kwz26@cas.org writes:
>Michael Doel writes:
>> I thought I posted this before...Dennis Hopson should have been first team.
>> ....Hopson is the schools leading scorer.
>
>You are absolutely correct.
>
>I guess you could kick off Havelicek.

Noooooooboddddyyy expects the Spanish Inquisition. You are charged with
the heinous sin of heresy. Lucas and Havilcek were equal partners on the
greatest OSU team of all time. And Havilcek could certainly have a 
strong claim to be Ohio St's greatest all around athlete. Faugh...I say...
faugh. Hopson was a pretty fair guard, but you really have to asterisk
these 4 year "all time scorers." 

"I guess you could kick off Havilcek" Bah, humbug. Where's about 8 poods 
of Marley's chains when you need them.
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Big Ten Update (12-30-92)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:12:09 GMT

In article <C0388E.9IF@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy  
Peppler) writes:

> William & Mary 77, Northwestern 69:  W&M made it a bad, bad trip to
> 	turquoise country for Northwestern...

It's good to see Chuck Swenson get a win, even if it was over NW.
According to the people at W&M, he's out without a good season.

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From: paul@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Greg Paul)
Subject: Re: What is RPI?
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 07:52:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.092312.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu> kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu writes:
>   My guess is that it stands for Real Plastered Insight or Rotten Picks
>   Insured,either way,what are they putting in the drinking water in Arizona?
>   I don't know where to begin Flamming those rankings,try doing something
>   constructive with them,like putting them in Bobby Hurley's jock,maybe
>   they'll slow him down.

   Your in-depth intellectual analysis is astounding...



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From: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Subject: Michigan 79  -  North Carolina 78
Reply-To: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 06:23:20 GMT

In one of the best games I have seen this year
the Michigan 5Xz overcame Dean Smiths 10-player rotation
by the narrowest of margins

The Tar Heels lead 78-77 with about 6 seconds to go.
Jimmy King went baseline and his shot went off the rim
to Jalen Rose who pushed it back up and in for the winning shot

Eric Montross is quite impressive in the post. He is not afraid
to go to the basket. 

Michigan was lead by Chris Webber and Jalen Rose.
Webber is just incredible, he can pass, start the break,
rebound, bring the ball up court, and is great finisher.
Is this young man a lottery pick or what ?

Again this was a great game, even if I had to stay up late to watch it (-:

Oh, one last note ... Michigan lost Jackson to a shoulder injury
not details on the extent of the injury or how long he would be out
of the lineup

chris

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From: jpd@austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: BYU avoids upset!!??
Originator: jpd@camino.austin.ibm.com
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:04:48 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin


Be careful, the woof gods are listening ...  although I doubt if Duke
has anything to worry about.  BYU will probably get pasted by Memphis 
State (or whoever they plan next).


In article <1992Dec22.175827.21941@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, jfc3348@u.cc.utah.edu (John F. Conroy) writes:
> I was a Duke undergrad, I am a U of U grad student, and God I pray that
> BYU somehow wins their next game so that Duke can school them.
>   woof woof.  (Notice the lower cases).
> 
> John Conroy
> jfc3348@u.cc.utah.edu
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From: krall@Think.COM (Tom Krall)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Bobby Hurley
Date: 29 Dec 1992 18:08:12 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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In article <8261@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec18.181813.25844@wuecl.wustl.edu>, jdd@wheezer.wustl.edu (John DeHart) writes:
|> >>I know that Philly's Simon Gratz high school 
|> >>(where Rasheed Wallace goes) requires its hoops team to be on the cross-country team.  
|> >Is this really true? How can they possibly REQUIRE this? Thats taking spots on
|> >the cross-country team from kids who might actually WANT to run cross-country.
|> >And what if an athlete wanted to play football and basketball?
|> 
|>  According to the article in McNews, hoops players at Gratz are also on the
|> track team.  I don't know how large Gratz is, so I don't know if the
|> hoops-track connection squeezes out budding track stars.  I do get the feeling
|> that basketball is the #1 sport at Gratz, so it would overrule other athletic
|> ventures.
|>   I guess it works; USA Today ranks them as #1 in the country.

In which sport ?
;^)
-Tom
GO GOPHS !

|> 	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
|> "I've been your dog ever since I've been your man."--Son House

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From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Subject: Re: FISHER-MICHIGAN (was Michigan doesn't play as a team)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 10:44:16 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Dec31.050305.13966@samba.oit.unc.edu> Craig.Simpson@launchpad.unc.edu (Craig Simpson) writes:
>In article <hLa=9y+@engin.umich.edu> quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy) writes:
>>Too bad you didn't get to watch the Michigan-UNC game.
>>Fisher coached very well against Smith, again!!
>> 
>He substituted well, but Rose did not have a clue as to how much time was
>left on the shot clock before throwing up that wild 35 footer (and this
>was right in front of the UM bench).  Also, UM wasted all their timeouts
>because UM did not have a clue as to what to do when one of their
>players picks up the dribble.
>

In a postgame interview, Rose stated that Jimmy King told him to
"just throw it to Chris (Webber)".
 
When trapped with no outlet, Michigan called timeout.
 
Two CLUES to help you figure out how Michigan won.
 
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From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Subject: #6 Maryland defeats #1 Tenn.
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 13:43:42 GMT

Joy to the World!

The Lady Terps defeated the Lady Vols, 77-72, in the championship of the
Maryland Invitational. Surely Vanderbilt will now assume the #1 spot.

Tennessee turned the ball over 20 times, several times in critical spots.
Maryland was able to pound the ball inside and get good guard penetration. This
in spite of the highly-rated Tennessee defense.

Go Terps!

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From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Subject: Re: Tarheels 92-93 champs?
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 13:36:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.223626.21476@ncsu.edu> currin@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD D
CURRIN) writes:
>
>I get premonitions and believe me it's not wishful thinking but this year's
>Tarheel team is going to go far. Final four or very likely to win it all.
>The glaring weaknesses of years past read that point guard and consistent 
>outside shooting seem solved. This is a team with size and depth. Look for
>Dean to retire after this year's sucessful campaign. He'll hand over the reins
>to his sucessor with his house in good order with Stackhouse et al coming in
>next year. Just a gut feeling but I bet I'm right.
>
>RC -very likely to be a ex-netter soon
>(changing jobs and likely to lose net access)
>

UNC's good but, NOT!

Too slow, too slow, too slow! There's a price to pay with all of those
7-footers.

On the other hand, you can't count Barney Rubble (our name for Dean) out.

[Be honest, he kinda looks like Barney....]

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From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Subject: Re: Rainbow Classic on TV ?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 16:42:36 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Dec22.152331.12099@rti.rti.org> rga@rti.rti.org writes:
>Can anyone tell me if the Rainbow Classic is on TV anywhere
>in the USA ? Here in N.C. unbelievably,
>the potential UNC vs. Michigan matchup and the potential
>Kansas vs. UNC or Kansas vs. Michigan games are NOT scheduled for
>TV !!! ?? !!! I was wondering if they may be on in the West or
>Midwest, then I can go find a satellite dish owner and try to
>pick them up. The late starting hours in the East must have scared
>away the major networks.
>
>Any help appreciated.
>
>Randy Alley
>

Yup, somebody definately dropped the ball on this one.
So far, I've found out that Prime Network has the rights
to the tournament.  Their Ann Arbor affiliate is PASS -
which means you have to get PASS to watch the games.
As far as I know, there's no pay-per-view.
 
Anybody know more about this mystery tournament?

--
Bryan.Luedy@um.cc.umich.edu
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From: dorin@ksr.com (Bob Dorin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: NBA Franchises in 1949-50
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:16:46 EST
Organization: Kendall Square Research Corp.

In article <1992Dec22.202619.20784@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gideon Avrahami) writes:
>The *top* all-time name is something I saw at the Basketball Hall
>Of Fame in Springfield, Mass.:  The Cleveland Rosenblooms.  World
>champions, ca. 1937.


Gidi -
I forgot my favorite all-time NBA team name (though the Ft. Wayne Zollner
Pistons ain't bad).

1946-49: The Providence Steamrollers (6-42 in 1947-48, all-time worst
         NBA season record)


- Bob
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From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Phoenix is absolutely scary...
Date: 30 Dec 92 08:37:32 CST
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Distribution: na
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Dec29.191832.11205@ennews.eas.asu.edu>, koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
> In article <1992Dec28.234615.25972@berlioz.nsc.com> werstln@berlioz.nsc.com (Michael Werstlein) writes:
>>Remember what happened to Portland in the 90-91 season?
>>They started 19-1.  Enough said!
> 
> The best thing about the SUns this year is that everyone else looks weak.
> Chicago has lost that edge it had, Portland as well - plus their getting
> older.  SA and Houston are worse as well.  The Suns are playing awsome
> and always finding new ways to win.  But, the reason I'm so confident is
> that no other team is really stepping up this season.  There are a lot
> of good teams and a lot of very good teams, but if you want to win a
> Championship you only worry about the great teams and there seems to be
> less of them this year than in the past.


Have the Suns beaten the Bulls this season?  Has Paxson recovered from 
surgery yet?  Is Paxson in the starting five?  The Bulls are saving the 
best for last.  Why peak during the regular season?  How are the Suns 
going to play against some of the Eastern teams?
From: s883410@otto (Matthew HEASLY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Stats on Clippers and others (was: miscellanea...)
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:39:13 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
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claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird) writes:

>In article <BzLDK9.I67@news.cso.uiuc.edu> krust@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Kelly Rust) writes:
>>A few observations as we've rounded the first turn.
>			.
>			.
>			.
>>BEST BACKCOURT?  I haven't seen them play, but the production
>>from Mark Jackson and Ron Harper has been outstanding (36ppg,
>>12rpg,14apg,4.5spg)...compared with, say, Jordan/Armstrong (45ppg,
>>9rpg,10apg,2.5spg) I'd say it's a toss-up.  Maybe one of our
>>resident Clipper mavens could offer an opinion...

I don't know.... maybe New Jersey.... with Kenny Anderson and Drazen Petrovic (39.3ppg, 8rpg, 11.7apg, 1.65spg)... well maybe statistically not as good as LAC but better (I think) than Jordan.Armstrong... 

		Thats my $0.02 anyway...

				Go Suns! (17-4 at the time of this posting)
From: kompella@cs.ucsd.edu (Vachaspathi Kompella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Lakers and Orlando - summary
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:49:17 GMT
Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego


The Lakers played awful ball yesterday, but they won.  The amazing thing
is that they held the man-child to 0 blocks.  And not because they didn't
take it to the hoop.  They had about half their points from the paint.

Plus points about the game:
 - Vlade played ok
 - They scored a lot inside the paint
 - They rebounded Orlando to a standstill
 - Peeler showed some real fire in the 4th
 - The foul shooting esp. down the stretch was terrific
 - They came back after being down 10 in the 4th

Negatives:
 - They were just standing around as usual waiting for an offense to happen
 - They played Worthy too much
 - They played Peeler too little
 - They didn't double team Shaq effectively
 - They gave up a critical 3 ptr

Worthy is looking less and less like a superstar.  He airballed a jumper
from the free throw line, and then took a three like he was going to make it!
What's the matter, James?

Why is Chick saying that Scott is playing great when he hasn't really done
anything in the last two games?

Hey, Vlade, you're making too much to be futzing around, playing hot and cold!

Perkins is a man!

Sedale, AC, Peeler, Elden, great game!

The Cleveland game is going to show whether the Lakers have any firepower or
not.  Look for Worthy, Vlade and Scott to have a big game.  As usual, Sedale,
AC and Peeler will be consistent performers.  Perkins will be the steady point
source (sounds funny if you are a physics person).  Elden should have a good
time.  Lakers by 5 over Cleveland if the Lakers play well.  Cleveland by 12 if
the Lakers don't get anything out of Scott and Worthy.  Cleveland blowout if
Vlade disappears.

-Vach
From: dorin@ksr.com (Bob Dorin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Shaq vs. Wilt
Date: 28 Dec 92 10:35:13 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Kendall Square Research Corp.

In article <1992Dec23.154048.2418@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>
>Huh.  Now that I think about it, I don't know if that particular 7th game
>play was against a team that Wilt was on (ie. was he there yet)?  Oh well...


Not only was Wilt a member of the Lakers in that 7th game at the Forum,
but he had been benched in the 4th quarter (by Butch van Breda Kolff,
the LA coach) for lack of hustle which Wilt presented as an injury.
Much was made of this in the Boston press ("could you see Russell or
Havlicek sitting down in the 7th game?  they'd be out there with a
broken arm!").  The balloons were poised to fall but never did.

Yes, Wilt was there but much of the negative image that is presented
here in Boston is based on that 7th game in 1969.
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From: robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: La Lakers
Date: 23 Dec 1992 18:42:19 GMT
Organization: Your Guess Is As Good As Mine...
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In article <1992Dec22.201345.19028@ll.mit.edu> nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
|>......
|>This is such meaningless drivel that it makes me sick. Too many
|>other Laker fans talk like this.  ..[]...
|
|like who? Chick Hearn?  well, it may be that you have a reasonable
|excuse to be losing your lunch over this.  perhaps you meant to
|say that Hearn didnt say that....

No, I said what I meant to say - that TOO MANY LAKER FANS ARE BRAINLESS.

|i happen to value Chick Hearn's opinions, even if i dont believe them
|all the time.  he doesnt strike me as someone who would distort the
|truth as much as - say - Johnny Most....

And I value them as well, but I *don't* let him do my thinking for
me. My opinions about Laker players are based on watching them play,
not on Chick, not on idle gossip, not on the newspapers.......

|if you had asked me who might best represent Laker-like spirit, i
|would have said A.C.Green, easy.  Worthy has no apologies to make
|in that regard in my opinion either.  that Chick could place Byron
|ahead of them is 1) curious, and 2) taken with a grain of salt here.

COMPLETE AGREEMENT. My complaint with the previous poster was not
so much that he ranked Byron ahead of Green & Worthy in "Laker Spirit",
(which of course in and of itself is ridiculous), but because his only
basis for the statement was, "Well, Chick said so...."   That was all he
seemed to know about the players, and introduced that into an ongoing
discussion of the team's mechanics.

|if there is something to this, then Magic has accomplished an even
|greater thing than supposed.  far from meaningless drivel, perhaps
|you would care to enlighten the rest of us who dont see the daily
|ins and outs of the Lakers and cant form the "proper" conclusion.

Read all of my postings in the last few weeks. It's pretty much
all there.........

			R.S.
			(lakers in two)	
			
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From: byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben Yau)
Subject: Re: Phoenix is absolutely scary...
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:14:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.152510.231@seas.gwu.edu> kolli@seas.gwu.edu (Chakravarthy Kolli) writes:

>I agree. But, If the Bulls make it past the Knicks, it may not be
>easy for the Suns. Remember, early in the season, Bulls beat Phoenix
>in Phoenix and KJ played that game. Day in and day out, Phoenix
>doesnot encounter the suffocating defense that I think is more
>prominent in the Eastern conference.
>
>chak kolli
>
>



this is true..  notice that the Sonics, under karl, do use a somewhat 
suffocating defense (which allowed them to beat portland, LA, and almost 
Phoenix if it weren't for choking by McKey and Pierce).  Karl can do this
because of the bench depth..  at frirst I thought depth was overrated, but
karl rotates the players very well to keep energy level up and provide a good
defense.  It seemed that Phoenix had problems with this sort of defense the 
most, and so they will probably have problems if/when they meet Chicago in 
the finals (or Seattle in the playoffs :)  hey, it could happen!... just never
pass it to Pierce in Crunch Time.. AGH!)

I think KJ will still be able to break down the defense well, and with Majerle'
excellent permiter shooting (also Chambers), the post-men will hopefully learn
to take advantage of these factors and pass out of the double/tribple team 
from the paint.. andit's an early season, so yes, i think phoneix is one of the
scarier teams in the NBA right now.

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From: tt300zx@milton.u.washington.edu (twin turbo 300zx)
Subject: Re: Jordan's three pointers
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 23:48:31 GMT

>>During the finals in June, when he had 6(?) three pointers, I thought
>>it was just a fluke. After seeing him yesterday, and the ease with
>>which he is shooting them, may be it's not a fluke
>
>why would you think it was a fluke????  he is the greatest player in the league
	not a fluke for michael jordan. he is the greatest in the world.
	all my friends over in japan also get to see NBA games there and
	majority agree that MJ is really something. 

>>Yes, all the others were flat and he scored 57. More importantly
>>he took Rex Chapman out of the game and it was Rex who was the man for the
>>Bullets going into the game

	the thing about MJ is that he usually takes the player that
	is guarding him out of his game. i wonder if he'll participate
	in this season's 3-point shooting contest??? any info about this?
	
	who's the possible NBA guy that might win the slam dunk
	championship this year? 

	possible candidates: shawn kamp of supersonics?
			     dee brown of celtics?
	who else?

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From: afcanav@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI)
Subject: KERR with the MAGIC
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 29 Dec 1992 08:03 EST  

Hello:

Many of us up here in Cleveland think the Cavs gave away Steve Kerr to the 
Magic, and I was just wondering if someone could fill me in on how he's 
been doing (with the Holidays, I've been too busy to check the box scores)

Thanks...

Vic Canacci, Sverdrup Tech., NASA Lewis Cleveland


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