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From: J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (J.M.Ross)
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Subject: Re: Heading: Dain Damage?? (in youth soccer)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:34:28 +0000







In message <1992Sep4.121820.21487@cbfsb.cb.att.com> norr@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
(neil.orr) writes:

>In article <1992Sep04.110944.8496@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> skaamjm@ucl.ac.uk (Matthew M
o
ore) writes:
>>
>>I believe that the Celtic goalie broke his neck in an old firm game after
>>diving head first at a forwards feet. I think it was in the thirties, and
>>he died.
>>

>This is true. The Celtic goalkeeper was John Thompson. He had a
>reputation for making spectacular saves. The Rangers forward whom
>Thompson struck was Sam English. Apparently, English's career didn't
>last long after the tragedy - I don't know if it was the stigma of
>being involved in the incident or not.

I think Thompson's injury was more like a severe depression of the skull
inflicted when he made contact with English knee as English made to shoot.
English was naturally very upset by the incident. He said he knew the injury
was bad because there was a terrible crack as Thompson hit him. However, the
accident was in 1931 and English played on until at least 1935, I don't think
any stigma was attached to him.

Thompson was probably the most gifted goalkeeper Scotland ever produced.
He was only in his early twenties when he died.

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From: hofmeist@zorro.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Hofmeister)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: German Bundesliga results
Date: 26 Aug 1992 19:59:17 GMT
Organization: CS Department, University of Dortmund, Germany
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A quick survey on German Bundesliga 1 results:

Uerdingen   0 - 2  Dortmund
Schalke     1 - 2  M'gladbach
Leverkusen  4 - 0  VfB Stuttgart
Hamburg     0 - 1  Nuernberg

VfL Bochum  4 - 0  Saarbruecken
Dresden     3 - 0  Koeln
Kais'lautern4 - 1  Wattenscheid
Karlsruhe   5 - 2  Bremen

Frankfurt - Bayern postponed due to a Michael Jackson
concert.
From: shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Friendly: France vs Brazil
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:44:07 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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Did "L'equipe" give evaluations for the Brazilian players too?
If so, please post.
Thanks,
Ken S.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Estonia first 3 rounds
Summary: Flora hasn't played yet
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 07:00:19 GMT

Round 1
Norma Tallinn     5-0 Merkuur Tartu
Duenamo Tallinn   3-1 JK Viljandi
Kalev Tartu       2-3 Keemik Kohtla-Jaerve
Narvatrans Narva  0-1 VMV Tallinn
EP Johvi          1-0 Kalev Sillamaee
Flora Tallinn     P-P Vigri Tallinn

Round 2
Keemik            1-1 Duenamo
VMV               4-1 Kalev T
Norma             1-1 Johvi
Vigri             1-1 Narva
Merkuur           2-0 Viljandi
Kalev S           P-P Flora

Round 3
Duenamo           0-1 VMV
Johvi             8-0 Merkuur
Kalev T           1-2 Vigri
Viljandi          0-3 Keemik
Narva             2-0 Kalev S
Flora             P-P Norma
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From: Matthew.Lehrer@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Matthew Lehrer)
Subject: Re: Italian Supercup
Summary: Question
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:59:41 GMT

How did Parma's new Colombian kid Faustino Asprilla look during the match?
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From: vdschoot@csi.UOttawa.CA (Hans van der Schoot)
Subject: Dutch soccer results
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 15:50:09 GMT

I probably have missed the results of the 1st and 2nd
round of the "ere-divisie". Could somebody still post
them? In addition, could somebody also post the results
of the several international tournaments in Europe, in
particular the Amsterdam tournament and the "AD" tournament?

Thanks

Hans van der Schoot. 

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert Moynihan)
Subject: Re: America(n) Rules 8-)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:38:29 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA
                      

Now, on with the thread...

In article <1992Sep2.111123.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>Is America trying to destroy football at the grassroots level?  
>This question came to mind as I read some of the comments following 
>on from the "Dain Bramage" thread.  The clutter of rules and adult 
>involvement in the games of young kids can only be stifling and 
>suffocating the growth and development of future skills.... 
 
>Maybe I'm just being romantic.  Apologies in advance.

Don't be shocked by the antics of the adults concocting these rule
changes.  Adults are forever spoiling the fun of children playing
games.  No organized youth team sport escapes their meddling.
So far, they haven't mucked up association football very much yet, 
but give 'em time...

If they're so all-fired concerned about injuries to kids, then why
not do something about the 9 year olds playing american football?
They're in a lot more danger than a dozen tykes running around a
pitch in shorts kicking a ball around.

In my more cynical moments, I think the best way to ruin a kids game
is to get grown-ups involved in "organizing" it.

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moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com             Go Ipswich Town!
From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: FA Premier League Official's Uniforms
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:52:01 GMT
X-Phone: +44 703 593257

In <1992Aug26.150232.17301@ccd.harris.com> mwr@controls.ccd.harris.com (Mike Reeves) writes:

>The officials at the game wore green jerseys and socks.  Since Leeds was
>white and Wimbledon was blue, I'd think that an alternate color for black
>was not needed.  Is green the normal uniform color for FA Premier League
>referees and linesmen?

They can wear one of four colours: black, green, yellow or (I think) blue.

Tim
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM (Peter Miles)
Subject: Re: WC 94 qualifiers in Australia
Reply-To: peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 10:08:34 GMT

In article 14477@iti.gov.sg, harin@iti.gov.sg (Harinderpal Singh) writes:
>I only know of the dates, but not the venue...
>
>20/09/92 Australia - Tahiti
>25/09/92 Australia - Solomon Islands
>
>Cheers,
>	Harin
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Both these matches are away games for the Aussie Socceroos.

Regards  Peter.
From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: RE: Anyone want to write a program?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 12:45:13 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

No program is necessary! :-)

As long as the postings are tab-delimited (tabs used to separate 
columns) you paste them or open the saved file into ANY spreadsheet program.

I would volunteer, however, my net access will terminate Friday 
(9-2-92).  I don't know if and when I will get it back.

Someone out there must be reasonably competent in spreadsheets.  You 
can even use a database, this however would take more effort.

Francis.
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From:  <netmail!dvlkhh@cs.umu.se>
To:  <s947607@umslvma.BITNET>
Subject: Anyone want to write a program?
Date: Wednesday, September 02, 1992 9:18AM

Reading all these excellent postings from Karel, I just come to wonder...

Anyone feeling he wants to write a program (I don't think it's too complicated,
but I have definitely not the time for it).

What shall the program do:
1. Read in a result file of Karel's format.
2. Then compiling the table and write it out in a nice format.

Now, we are just waiting for the volunteer....

Kent
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From: jyrki@uta.fi (Jyrki Nummenmaa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Youth soccer (was Re: Heading: Dain Bramage?? (in youth soccer))
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:05:46 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <4912@balrog.ctron.com> mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown) writes:
[this and that removed from here and there]
...
>In our Youth Soccer League, we do not teach heading in U8 or U10. If a player
>attempts to head the ball, the coach will demonstrate the proper technique,
>primarily to prevent injury.  There is no penalty if a player does head the
>ball in a game.

I have been a trainer for U8 (well, max age 7, is that U8?) for 
a few years. First of all, the ball does not go up high enough
to be headed very often, so the chances to get a ball in the face
are higher than to head the ball. :)   Heading is allowed, but
it is not really practiced much, just a few times in case...
We use size 3 football, which is quite ok by size, but I
feel it could be just a bit lighter.

>Other modifications are: no slide tackles, no direct kicks, retrys on improper
>throwins, keeper steps not called (ref may stop game for instructional
>purposes), no offsides, and liberal substitions.  These are 6v6 games on
>a reduced field with 10w x 6h goals. These are primarily recreational/in-
>structional teams rather than highly competitive teams.  We aim to teach
>skills and love of soccer, not "winning is the only thing"

Our system is somewhat like that, with a few major exceptions. 
Firstly, we do call offsides.

Also, we give direct free kicks and penalties. I have not found
any real problems with these. I have not seen players get hurt
because of a direct free kick. Penalties are typically given
for hand balls, and sometimes a penalty feels a bit harsh taken
that the players may be primarily protecting their faces with
their hands.

Thirdly, slide tackles are allowed, but since the games are
played on sand, I have not seen many ...  :)

...
>One that I have seen a problem with is the use of indirect kicks in U8. Now, we
>don't allow direct kicks with the younger players for 2 reasons:
>1) prevent injuries to inexperienced keepers (best kicker vs goalie of the
>   moment; we sub goalies so that all players get at least one chance to 
>   play in a season).
>2) Lessen pressure on kids playing goal.  Even in a non-competitive league,
>   kids feel pressure in goal. Directs would make that worse.
...

I do not know about (2), but I have not seen direct free kicks
injure goalies in U8s.

Perhaps go back to direct free kicks.

Regards,

Jyrki
From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: American legislators..(was:Re: Heading: Dain Bramage??)
Date: 27 Aug 1992 14:00:06 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


The World remains terrified at the possible affect N. American legislators may
have on the game of football.

Chris

==================================================================

Legislators can only screw things up that have a significant effect monetarily.

Until legislators discover the monetary potential of soccer (which I 
believe the majority are not) then we are SAFE until then.

If and when they do wake up to the $$$$$ that soccer generates, we will 
hopefully have devised a plan to cut them off at the trough (or some 
part of there anatomy, which ever is most appropriate)!    :-)

Francis.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: mala1231@zrzsp10.fb12.tu-berlin.de (Martin Lawder)
Subject: English Tuesday Results ?
Reply-To: mala1231@zrzsp10.fb12.tu-berlin.de (Martin Lawder)
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:28:23 GMT

 Any results for Tuesday evening games in England ?


 Cheers Martin.
From: michals@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Szleper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Polska liga, round 5
Summary: Wyniki 5. rundy
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:56:41 GMT
Organization: Warsaw University Physics Dept.

5th round of Polish league (played on Saturday, August 29th)


1) SZOMBIERKI BYTOM  -  GORNIK ZABRZE  1:0 (1:0)
   Orzeszek       '32


2) OLIMPIA POZNAN  -  LEGIA WARSZAWA  1:3 (0:2)
   Wojciechowski  '59     Kowalczyk      '24
                          Sliwowski      '42
                          Ratajczyk      '46


3) ZAWISZA BYDGOSZCZ  -  LECH POZNAN  0:2 (0:1)
                          Moskal         '13
                          Moskal         '80


4) WISL~A KRAKOW  -  SLA,SK WROCL~AW  5:0 (2:0)
   Gosciniak      '44
   Wojtowicz      '45
   Jal~ocha       '60
   Janik          '68
   Swie,tek       '89


5) POGON SZCZECIN  -  GKS KATOWICE  1:1 (0:1)
   Dymkowski      '90     Stolarczyk    '31 (self goal)


6) L~KS L~ODZ  -  WIDZEW L~ODZ  3:3 (2:3)
   Pl~uciennik     '3     Iwanicki       '4
   Leszczynski     '7     Koniarek       '6
   Leszczynski    '70     Cecherz       '40


7) ZAGL~E,BIE LUBIN  -  STAL MIELEC  1:1 (0:0)
   Dylus          '71     Jaskot        '56
                  (penalty)


8) SIARKA TARNOBRZEG  -  HUTNIK KRAKOW  2:0 (0:0)
   Sadowski       '49
   Kobylanski     '89


9) JAGIELLONIA BIAL~YSTOK  -  RUCH CHORZOW  0:3 (0:1)
                           Gilewicz      '41
                           Gilewicz      '60
                           Szewczyk      '66


TABLE
=====
    Team         Points    Goals
---------------------------------
 1. Lech          10-0     14:2
 2. Ruch           8-2     12:4
 3. Widzew         8-2      9:5
 4. Legia          7-3      9:6
 5. L~KS           7-3     10:8
 6. Wisl~a         5-5      9:5
 7. Katowice       5-3      7:5
 8. Siarka         5-5      8:7
    Stal           5-5      8:7
10. Zagl~e,bie     5-5      7:7
11. Hutnik         4-6      8:8
12. Gornik         4-4      7:7
13. Sla,sk         4-6      7:12
14. Szombierki     3-7      4:8
15. Jagiellonia    3-7      6:11
16. Zawisza        2-8      4:8
17. Pogon          2-8      3:11
18. Olimpia        1-9      2:13


Cheers!

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From: gavinm@spider.co.uk (Gavin McCallum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Souness (was Re: What's happening to liverpool)
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:06:52 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.


I think one problem Souness will find is that just buying players
wont work as well in England as it did in Scotland.Being blunt
bringing players like Hatley,Walters,Stevens,Mcall,Gordon(?) and
Steven to Scotland was a good move cause most Scottish Football is
Crap!.But In England most of these players would just be considered
Average,apart from maybe Trevor Steven('s?).Dean Suanders has got to
be one of crappest players ever to wear a Liverpool jersey,I also
think Souness's biggest mistake was to sell McMahon,okay many people
thought he was too slow,but at least he put in some fight,Jan molby is
a great,skillful player but he's bloody lazy.And as for Paul Stewert,
all I can recall him doin is pissing of Nottingham Forrest players,
for which he must be congratulated :).It looks nowerday's that costly
players aren't everything,But then Blackburn could prove me wrong!.

My 2pence worth

Gav
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From: v075l6xq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Joseph F Tumino)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Murray to block SSL application?
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug17.102359.26979@spider.co.uk>, scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes...
>In article <1992Aug17.102906.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>> .....
>>to take charge of a match involving the famous corporate eleven again.
>>ensuring a large drop in profits for the business magnate and therefore no
>>pocket money for Wallet Merger this week. It just isn't good for business.
> 
>What would you lot of stadium wreckers know about business - ewes can't even
>get a shirt sponsor whereas companies are queuing up to sponsor Rangers and
>hire out the executive boxes. There's nothing wrong about running the club as
>business as it's very successful. On the other hand though, if Celtic had
>been run as a business they would have went bust years ago. Cambuslang my
>arse!
> 
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From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: It's not my fault!
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:34:18 GMT

In Steve Varty's posting he indicates that the IFK awarded against one team 
that was under pressure was unfair (referee's fault) whereas I would suggest 
that the players take responsibility for committing actions that cause the 
referee to call fouls against them. (players fault)

Referees don't score goals. Referees don't take goals away. All referee 
actions are in response to player actions. (Please note : NO FLAMES! I am sure
that there may be biased referees out there, but you'd have a tough time 
proving it. Opinion from non-officials, assessors, etc who have worked/assessed
at the highest levels is all that counts.)

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: terry@jgaltstl.UUCP (terry linhardt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: America(n) Rules 8-)
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:55:29 GMT
Organization: The Lafayette Group, St. Louis, MO.

In article <1992Sep3.213418.14348@pony.Ingres.COM>, cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris) writes:
> Organised games for U6 (and maybe U8) together with a formal practice
> is too rigid a way for young children to be playing the game. Far better
> for kids to kick a plastic ball around with a couple of friends after
> school etc or play informal "pickup" games. Trouble is, there just
> isn't enough of a soccer "mentality" in the U.S. for this to happen to
> any great extent. Hence the major (or only) exposure to the game for
> many (but not all) kids is via an adult-organised formal activity.
> 
I agree. I think an additional problem is that we are throwing
young kids (U8) on the field in 11 v 11 games, as if that is
sacred. Kids at this age, in my opinion, should be playing a lot
of 1 v 1, 2 v 2 games. That way they get a lot more touches on the
ball, etc. Let's face it, for a seven year old 11 v 11 is a pretty
chaotic environment, and many of them go through an entire game
touching the ball only once or twice. They don't learn ball skills
in that environment.
-- 
  Terry Linhardt                ...!wupost!jgaltstl!terry 
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From: harin@iti.gov.sg (Harinderpal Singh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: World Cup Qualifier Result
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:33:51 GMT
Reply-To: harin@iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore


Result from 2 Sep 92:

*** 1994 WORLD CUP - UEFA QUALIFYING GROUP 4 ***

Czechoslovakia		1	Belgium		2


		P W D L  F  A Pts
Belgium		3 3 0 0  6  1  6
Romania		2 2 0 0 12  1  4
Cyprus		2 1 0 1  2  1  2
Czechoslovakia	1 0 0 1  1  2  0
Wales		1 0 0 1  1  5  0
Faroe Ilds	3 0 0 3  0 12  0


*** 1994 WORLD CUP - UEFA QUALIFYING GROUP 5 ***

2 Sep 92	Iceland		vs	Yugoslavia

postponed because Yugoslavia's status in the World Cup has not been finalised.



Next few World Cup Qualifiers....


4 Sep	Oceania Group 1		Solomon Islands - Australia

9 Sep	Europe Group 1		Switzerland 	- Scotland
9 Sep	Europe Group 2		Norway		- San Marino
9 Sep	Europe Group 3		Eire		- Latvia
9 Sep	Europe Group 3		N Ireland	- Albania
9 Sep	Europe Group 4		Wales		- Faroe Islands
9 Sep	Europe Group 5		Luxembourg	- Hungary
9 Sep	Europe Group 6		Bulgaria	- France
9 Sep	Europe Group 6		Finland		- Sweden

Cheers,
	Harin
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From: m1mlr00@cs.utexas.edu (, mark rodini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Test message
Date: 2 Sep 1992 11:41:44 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Thanks for the how-to on posting, Marco. So here is a trial test message.

But, to give it some relevance, does anyone know whether Univision will be
televising an Italian Serie A game on Sunday, Sept 6? (in Washington DC).
Thanks. (I hope this works!)

Forza Juve!  Mark Rodini