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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:54:45 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: "Long Chain On"

John -- Great review of Peter Paul and Mama concert. Do you think they'll
update other songs, such as "Puff the Magic Crackhead?"
    Anyway, here's some stuff on Jimmy Driftwood, flagrantly lifted from
"The Faber Companion to 20th-Century Popular Music."

       JIMMY DRIFTWOOD, b. James Corbett Morris, 20 Jue 1917, Mountain View,
           Arkansas, USA

       As a schoolteacher in the rural Ozarks, Driftwood used his lifelong
       interest in folk music to develop the skills of both folklorist and
       songwriter. These skills merged in his song 'Battle of New Orleans'.
       At the same time, Driftwood was a vigorous public spokesman for folk
       music and folk culture.
       'Battle of New Orleans', a historical vignette of the American War of
       Independence set to the fiddle tune 'Eighth of January', was included
       Driftwood's first album 'Newly Discovered Early American Folk Songs'
       (RCA, 1958). The song in turn was covered by country singer JOHNNY
       HORTON, who had a pop and country hit with it in 1959, LONNIE DONEGAN
       in Britain, and HARPERS BIZARRE in 1968. 'Soldier's Joy' from the same
       album and similarly a story-song set to a traditional fiddle tune,
       provided HAWKSHAW HAWKINS with a country hit in 1959. 'Tennessee Stud',
       a Driftwood composition from his next album 'The Wilderness Road and
       Jimmy Driftwood' (RCA, 1959), was a hit for EDDY ARNOLD and has been
       much recorded since.
       After 1961, Driftwood turned more toward promoting folk music. He was
       active in launching the Arkansas Folk Festival and later in winning
       federal funding for the Ozark Folk Center, an institution that has been
       particularly successful in the encouragement and study of regional life.
       Driftwood later directed a travelling troupe of local folk musicians,
       the Rackensack Folklore Society.

 No mention of Long Chain On. I guess I'll still snoop around.
 Lovin' that rascal Puff,
 Little Ricky Paper
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:54:45 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      political apologies

I apologize for getting the politics started but it was fun to hear
everyone's veiws but this is ALLMUSIC and I'm sorry. Damn i apologize
alot.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:23:36 -0400
From:         "Russell A. Potter" <rapotter@COLBY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: top 10 guitar list

No, no, youse guys are all wrong.  Technical virtuosity by itself does not
a great guitarist make. Solo lead guitar is also only _one_ style after
all. Inovation ought to count too.  Here's my top 10 list of all time:

1. Charlie Christian.  In his few brief years as a soloist, he virtually
  _made_ jazz guitar from the bottom up.  There's a compilation disc that
  had almost all his recordings; give it a listen.

2. Leo Kottke.  "Like a Frankenstein with twenty fingers," one listener
was heard to remark.  His voice is terrible, but his fluid finger-
picking is matchless.

3. Bo Diddley.  You have not heard what a guitar can do till you hear this
   guy; his guitars were square but his playing was not.  Irony is, he's
  still around, but has not had an easy time staying afloat, financially
  speaking.  Someone ought to have a benefit concert for him.

4. Eddie Lang.  Lang's jazz guitar records from the 20's and 30's were
the first fully melodic jazz lines, and they're still impressive even
through the scratches.

5. Django Reinhart.  Not bad for a guy with three fingers on his left
hand ...

6. Robert Johnson.  The blues hit its apex, and every rock lick ever
played owes its heart and soul to Johnson; check out the 2-CD Columbia-
Legacy box.  Johnson played an Epiphone guitar capoed at the 5th fret,
and played both slide and standard this way -- astonishing!

7. Clarence White.  A bluegrass virtuoso and, for a time, one of
Nashville's busiest studio guitarists; his rhythmic attack style is
impossible to duplicate but great fun to listen to, and it pops up
in the weirdest places (such as in Phil Och
s's little-remembered rock anthem, "My Kingdom for a Car."

8. Sandy Bull.  A brilliant guitarist, and respectable as well on the
banjo, mandolin, lute, sitar, and a'oud; his Vanguard LP's are long out
of print but worth searching for; "Electric Blend/E Pluribus Unum" is his
best.  He fried out on drugs but is back with a new CD called
"Vehicles" on the TRS label in 1991.

9. Hendrix.  Fir all previously mentioned reasons, and then some.

10. Sharon Isbin.  The best classical guitarist I've ever heard,
PERIOD.  Breame and Williams are nothing next to her.

All of the above IMHO of course ....


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"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies"
                                                    --Friedrich Nietzsche
=======Russell A. Potter========<rapotter@colby.edu>=====================
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:24:52 CDT
From:         "The Truth (some assembly required)" <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: confessions

>#Well, Billy Ray deserved to be shot at! :) But yeah, I like
>Jimmy Page and LZ, although I not a big fan, and not offended by
>any potshots at them. But I'm sure there are people on the list who
>may want to stand up for LZ, thinking they are the greatest band
>ever to walk the Earth!
>#Yea, that was a shot. What the hell! :)

Well, I agree. I *DEFINATELY* think "Hey Hey, what can you do?"
is the BEST LZ song recorded, and I think that "When the Levee
Breaks" is far and a way the best think off that album.

As for Billy Ray Cyrus (SP?) I can honestly say that I've never
heard his music. I guess I don't really want to. However, I saw
Iris DeMent (SP?) at this year's Newport Folk Festival and she
was good. A little bit quirky, but good.

Dave
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On a South Dakota wheat plane
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:10:00 LCL
From:         Kevin Sonney <KEVIN.DAVINCI@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Yesterday's Ferlinghettinet
X-To:         Sonia Kovitz <ALLMUSIC@auvm.american.edu>

OK,  So if  That  was Monday,  I'm  not even  going  to ask about
Tuesday.

-=Kevin=-
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:31:25 CDT
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From:         "Renato" <U33963@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      ALLMUSIC confessional: secret loves and hidden desires

We've had some problems with our mainframe so I'm resending this in case it did
n't get thru this morning.  RB
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
This list is fairly dull --except for Steak Queen's offerings-- so let's try so
mething else. Listen up all you in Musicland -- you won't find it on a map; it'
s a state of mind: Do you have hidden tastes that you don't own up because you'
re afraid that they'll be considered schlocky, schmaltzy, corny, campy, or down
right unhip? Do you swoon to the Tijuana Brass, get inspired by the Chipmunks,
love "Lite FM" stations, want to get parallel with your partners to the sounds
of Mantonvani, or adore cheesy lounge acts? Well, the time's come to unburden y
ourself directly into the ALLMUSIC confessional.

Truth impels to confess a passion for film sountracks of the 50s/60s, especiall
y those of North, Goldsmith, Bernstein, Herrmann and Morricone.  OK, let's hear
 from everyone, now, whatayasay?

Renato
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:50:59 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Be sure to wear some flowers in your hair

Well, I'll grant you "Edward, (etc.)", but I will cordially pass on the rest
of =Shady Grove= (-:
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:49:37 MDT
From:         "It's not what you know,
              it's what you think you know..." <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      RE: ALLMUSIC confessional: secret loves and hidden desires
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>Do you have hidden tastes that you don't own up because you'
>re afraid that they'll be considered schlocky, schmaltzy, corny, campy, or down
>right unhip? Do you swoon to the Tijuana Brass, get inspired by the Chipmunks,
>love "Lite FM" stations, want to get parallel with your partners to the sounds
>of Mantonvani, or adore cheesy lounge acts? Well, the time's come to unburden y
>ourself directly into the ALLMUSIC confessional.

Being a strict irreligious Catholic, I should be good at this....  :)  I'm
finding it very difficult to unbosom these musical secrets, but *sigh*, here
goes:

Victor Borge provokes my nipples to perpendicular status...

I've also been caught harboring a lust for the following songs:

  Stormy Weather
  The Man I Love
  Begin the Beguine

Excuse me while I go lick my Lawrence Welk pin-up...

Waiting for her penance,
Sister Carol
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Unfortunately, due to  a problem with  mail from this  list, I am
unable to continue  to subscribe to  it. However, I will still be
available at KEVIN.DAVINCI@MHS.UNC.EDU.

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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:31:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      re: John, we hardly knew ye!

>From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

>   John?  John, are you still there?  Looks like we better be careful
>with this Hawkwind stuff, folks;  I think John might have gotten sucked
>into a space rock black hole.  John, can you hear me?!!!!  (Or is
>that "Johnny can you hear me"?)

Sorry about that mangled post, folks.  Temporal distortions are a common
occurance in the vicinity of Hawkwind. 8-)  I think the gist of my post
made it out before the mainframe succumbed to Sonic Attack, but just in
case I'll repeat my suggestion that _In Search of Space_ is probably
the best starting point for those in the US to begin exploring Hawkwind
as it is representative of the band and should be available fairly
easily and at a reasonable price.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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From:         CSM Julian Sominka <jsominka@CSM.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Rap

> Also there's the leser-known Disposable
> Heroes of Hip-Hoprisy, who blend industrial noise with hip-hop beats and
> high-voltage polemics which buck the rap mainstream (they've recorded what
> so far as I know is the only anti-gay-bashing rap, "The Language of
> Violence.").

Have you listened to anything by Consolidated? They are in much the same
vein as The Dispoable Heroes, Consolidated's DJ worked with them on some
of their early material. Their last single 'This is Fascism' and last
album (I've forgotten the title) were excellent. I think they are due
to release some new material soon also.

Julian.
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From:         "Alfred Lang, U.Bern" <lang@PSY.UNIBE.CH>
Subject:      Mathematical Invention

Thanks very much, Mark Horney and all others, for elaborating on
numbers and context, i.e. the fixed vs. flexible character of
signs.I agree very much that the meaning of a number changes
with context when it becomes part of a concrete composite such as
five apples or seven people. that is why I added ABSTRACT to numbers
in teh sentence Mark quoted from ym message.
I think this is a very important topic in semiotics and, of course,
not sufficiently cleared by that declarative "abstract". Probably
we have to be much more careful than we generally are in making clear
that every sign is not a sign but a part of some semiosis. Yes,
mathematics is invented. this was also Peirce's belief. And it
is invented in exactly such a way that within the number system,
any number is invariant to context. Applications of number systems,
i.e. composites of numbers with other ideas, is a completely
different matter.
Alfred
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Subject:      IZE

Please, let me know: where IZE (progr.) is awailable?

Thanks

Seppo Saari
Helsinki-Finland

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From:         "Richard Wilk, Anthropology, 855-8162" <WILKR@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Suggestion for periodicals

How about

American Ethnologist
Public Culture
Cultural Anthropology
Human Organization

Most of what anthropologists publish is qualitative
research.

R. Wilk
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From:         Martha Lang <ST403238@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      RE: qualitative sociology and environmental st
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There is a whole subdivision within Sociology on environment, toxic waste,
and the social movements which form around these issues.  Brown and
Mikkelsen's NO SAFE PLACE is a community study on toxic waste and leukemia
in Woburn, MA.  Fox's TOXIC WORK is also a good source.  Both will lead you
to other studies.
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From:         JENNINGT@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU
Subject:      Other interested parties

Is anyone aware of anyone who qualitatively researches "prosocial"
behavior (i.e., altruism, helping, activism, etc.)?

Todd Jennings
Cal. State, San Bernardino
JENNINGT@CLARGRAD
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From:         Eric McCollum <MCCOLLUM@VTVM2.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Suggestion for periodicals
              27 Aug 1992 19:38:34 EDT from <Solomon.Yusim@LAMBADA.OIT.UNC.EDU>

There is a small but growing group of people in family therapy who are
interested in qualitative research and there is a newsletter about
qualitative research for family therapists.  In one of the past year's
issues of the _Journal of Marital and Family Therapy_ there is an article
on qualitative approaches to family therapy research  (authors -- Moon, Dillon
& Sprenkle).  In addition, there will be a qualitative research track at the
October meeting of the American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy.
The American Family Therapy Association is sponsoring a special meeting
 on qualitative research in September, I believe.  Don't know the particulars
on that.  Your friend should be familiar with both family therapy organ-
izations.  For information about the newsletter, Anthony Heath at Northern
Illinois University has been part of getting it started and could be
contacted, I would think.  So far, there are no journals in family therapy
which publish only qualitative studies.

Eric McCollum
Marriage and Family Therapy Program
Virginia Tech University -- Falls Church Campus
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From:         Yvonna Lincoln <E101YL@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Still hunting the wiley Poststructuralist. . .
              26 Aug 1992 16:20:00 CST from <JOHNSTONJM@MEMSTVX1>

Dear John:  It is a perfectly good question, and I have no complete answer for
you.  I believe the absence of a response is due more to people's just getting
back from the end-of-summer breaks, and from the usual nuttiness and energy and
 endless tasks for beginning a new fall semester.
      A partial answer is that the poststructuralists are, were, originally, th
ose "retired French pensioners" -- as Donald Broady, who studied with Bourdieu,
 calls them -- who began mounting critiques of structuralism shortly after the
second world war and after the war in/for Algeria:  Lyotard, Bourdieu, Derrida,
 Foucault, etc.  Poststructuralism began as a literary/criticism movement, but
has been carried to psychology (Lacan), sociology (Bourdieu), political theory/
political science (Foucault), and other disciplines -- "translated", one might
say, into/onto the other disciplines.
      I'll get you a good definition of structuralism if you'll nag me next wee
k.  At the moment, my professional library is in boxes, as I'm moving offices.
     The important thing to remember is that all postmodernists are poststructu
ralists, but not all poststructuralists are postmodernists.  We've got sets and
 subsets here.
      Does this help at ALL?    Yvonna Lincoln
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From:         Jon Dessau <dessau@ALUDRA.USC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: michael's tree
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Gary,
In belated reply to your posting on Saturday, 22 Aug, I would like to
ask if you see any difference between your semiotics and that of
Plato, as in his parable of the cave.  Like your `prior condition' the
platonic prototype is greater than the sum of `stances' (=flickering
shadows observed) as it encompasses all possible past, present and future
reflections.  Similarly, when you say that "this prior condition of
possible meaning is not `out there', so too Plato asserts we cannot
fully behold, perceive, confirm or even imagine the ideal prototype,
as we would be blinded in glare; it is more ideal than real.

That someone else (apologies - I did not note your name) brings up the
similarity with notions of God is no accident as the platonic
prototype is a direct source for the early church theology of the
Godhead.

Have I missed something? Should I crawl back into my cave?

Jon                                                 dessau@usc.edu
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From:         Gary Shank <P30GDS1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      michael's tree

Hi Michael, congratulations on the new job and welcome to the
list.  Now, let me tackle the interesting case of the (what
I like to call) vonUexkullianism of your magnificent Norway spruce.
I agree with you that the tree >means> something different to the
person, the crawler, and the deer.  vonUexkull, as  you well know,
would say that each organism perceived the tree as part of the same
environment, but that the tree was part of a different umwelt (lit-
erally, around world -- what von Uexkull would call the world of
meaning that 'surrounds' each organism) for each critter.
Where a nominalism and a semiotic realism part company is in terms
of the conditions of meaning involved in the situation.  The nomin-
alist would say that if you sum together the umwelts of all the
critters and folks that interact with the tree, then that sum de-
fines the sum set of meaning involved with the tree.  Period. So
from the nominalist perspective, the umwelt is just another name for
a stance.
Now a semiotican will agree that there is 'meaning to whom' in the
setting, and that each organism will incorporate the tree different-
ly into their umwelts.  We want to go further, though, and say that
the very existence of possible meaning is what allow particular
meaning stances to exist in the first place.  Furthermore, this
realm of possible meanings is greater than the sum of the stances
involved.  In other words, one of the fundamental ground rules of
reality is the fact that we have no actual cases of meaning without
the existence of prior conditions of possible meaning.  But notice
that this prior conditon of possible meaning is not 'out there.'
It is part of the very fabric of our experience of reality.  The
'in here/out there' dichotomy is, I repeat ad nauseam, part of the
legacy of our thinking of these things in nominalistic terms.  I
would prefer to say that meaning is either realized or not realized.
What we do when we do qualitative research is to try to increase the
bandwidth and scope and implications etc of realized meaning. When
I say that reality ocnsists of layer after layer of potential and
unrealized meaning, and that we as qualitative researchers uncover
and examine and expose and yes, create, meanings and access to other
meanings, I want to say that there is no 'out there' to the process.
The key to a foundation  for qualitative research is, first of all,
a theory of meaning that allows us to expand meanign and reality at
the same time, and a logic of discovery to allow us to try to link
our findings to both truth and a logic of verification.  But let
me hold on that point for the time being...
I know this is strange, but we can look at things from a fresh per-
spective.  A nominalist qualitative poisiton is, I grant you, a
fresher perspective than a positivist one, but it is nowhere near
as fresh as a semiotic realist perspective.
Comments?       gary shank
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From:         JOHNSTONJM@MEMSTVX1.BITNET
Subject:      Still hunting the wiley Poststructuralist. . .

On August 24 I sent the following message, it must not have gotten through
as I have not heard anything from this helpful and loquacious list.
                What does it mean when a theoretical orientation is described as
"poststructuralist?"
        What (who) are "poststructuralist voices?"
                                                John
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Early Childhood Teacher Education
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Memphis State University
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