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Subject: Re: humor in England 
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:14:29 +0000

In article <BxtIsn.JE0@cck.coventry.ac.uk> gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk writes:
>>Not that I'm biased or anything, but I reckon England starts at Watford Gap.
>>Heading north.
>
>I'm afraid you'd have to stop when it becomes Scotland, though, or they won't
>be very happy at all.

:) Couldn't agree more.

Mark.

p.s. Scotland, where's that then?
p.p.s. Distribution: everywhere except Graham Toal. ;)

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From: cah@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ceri Hopkins)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Subtle (i.e. obscure) cigarette adverts
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:00:10 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK

>>>>> On 18 Nov 92 15:32:23 GMT, zlsiimw@mcchpc.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby) said:

Mark> Recently I've noticed some adverts for cigarettes which are totally beyond
Mark> me. One featured a red scorpion and the other featured an empty glass with
Mark> a beer bottle top lying beside it. Anybody know what brands these are
Mark> advertising? 

I believe these are for Marlboro (from the people who employ Margaret
Thatcher). I only worked this out from the Tar and Nicotine levels
though. 

Ceri
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University of Birmingham			  Tel. +44-21-414-3743
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: apj003@cck.coventry.ac.uk (James W Bottomley)
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Organization: unorganized
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:06:46 GMT

In article <11581@scott.ed.ac.uk> guy@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:

>imcneill@mccomp.demon.co.uk (imcneill) writes:
>
>>I think you've all missed out one important side effect, Barry Norman's film
>>program will be called film 00  (pronounced "film nought").
>

Film 2000 for sure... sounds much more pompous.

>>Will Barry Norman still be hosting it........and why not ?
>

Probably. He'll only be 78 or so.

>Yes, I've wondered about how the years of the next decade will be
>pronounced.  By analogy with "nineteen hundred", "nineteen oh one",
>"nineteen oh two", ... we ought to have "twenty hundred", "twenty oh
>one", "twenty oh two", ... but I've never heard anything but "two
>thousand" (or "the year two thousand"), "two thousand and one", "two
>thousand and two", ... .  By the time it gets to 2020, though, people
>start talking about "twenty twenty", so where's the mysterious point
>where the naming scheme changes?

2010.

>Also, we can currently talk about '90, '91, '92, ... for short, and
>refer to the entire decade as "the nineties", but how are we going to
>pronounce '00, '01, '02, and what on earth will we call the decade?
>Even the one after that isn't obvious: "the teens" maybe?  Does anyone
>know what happened at the beginning of this century?

I think they were dubbed the `tens' by some and the `earlys' by others (as
in `the early years of this great new century of progress to a new life
for all Americans' (Teddy Roosevelt, 1906: Speech to Congress)).

Suggestion for the 2000's: `the First Years of the New Millenium' or FYNM's 
could be shorthanded to fynum's or simply Fyn's.

Other proposals gratefully recieved.


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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:28:17 GMT
	<11581@scott.ed.ac.uk>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <11581@scott.ed.ac.uk> guy@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:

   Yes, I've wondered about how the years of the next decade will be
   pronounced.  By analogy with "nineteen hundred", "nineteen oh one",
   "nineteen oh two", ... we ought to have "twenty hundred", "twenty oh
   one", "twenty oh two", ... but I've never heard anything but "two
   thousand" (or "the year two thousand"), "two thousand and one", "two
   thousand and two", ... .  By the time it gets to 2020, though, people
   start talking about "twenty twenty", 

I'm sure people will soon start saying "Twenty One" for 2001, and so on.
Much easier, if a wee bit ambiguous.
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	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)

		
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Graham Wilson)
Subject: Re: car insurance scam
Organization: Legal Department - Coventry University
Distribution: uk
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:55:57 GMT

In article <2238@snap> paj@uk.co.gec-mrc (Paul Johnson) writes:
>In article <SM.92Nov19113915@suns2.cel.co.uk> sm@cel.co.uk (salim mehta) writes:
>>In article <722097911.3647@minster.york.ac.uk> simpson@minster.york.ac.uk wrote:
>>> My car was stolen from outside my house and the insurers have taken a long
>>> time to do anything about it. The latest scam that they have come up with
>>> is to ask for a copy of my licence. This seems irrelevant to me......
>>[stuff deleted]
>
>I would comply with the request but add that unless you get payment
>within two weeks you will be issuing a County Court Summons for
>payment.  You can do this without a solicitor if the amount is less
>than UKL 5,000.  Its called a Small Claim, and was hashed over here a
>couple of weeks ago.  Go to your COUNTY court (civil not criminal) and
>ask for details.


** If you are going to make a claim through the small claims division of
   the County Court then you should be able to handle the matter yourself.
   If you loose, generally, the other side will have to pay their own 
   legal costs. However, if the matter is heard before the County Court
   proper for higher claims, then the rule is that costs follow the
   cause. You loose, you pay the costs for the defendant.

   Anyone considering taking action through the main county court rather
   than the small claims court division should consult a solicitor, unless
   you have got the time and the patience to sit down and read the 
   County Court act (1984)

   
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         *     LL.B.  Law  III     *     Coventry  University    *
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From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: TV licence authorities get wrists smacked
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:38:43 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.


>>>>>> On 19 Nov 92 16:04:44 GMT, cei352@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak) said:

>>  Is it true though that they cannot fine you on the spot.? I have heard that
>>  you must obtain a licence within 7 days of yourself being caught in order
>>  to escape prosecution.? Can anyone enlighten me as to the validity of this.?

They can't fine you on the spot but they will prosecute you irrespective of
whether you were 'just about to send in the form' or not.
You can't escape prosecution any more, even if you rush out immediately after
a visit and buy a licence.
Nor will you be offfered a 'buy one or face prosecution' option, they'll
just prosecute you.

What did you say your login was again?

$ finger cei352@cck.coventry.ac.uk

Hmmm...that'd be Bailey Street, just round from the chip shop right?

Dave
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From: rpt@edscom.demon.co.uk (Richard Tomlinson)
Subject: Re: Subtle (i.e. obscure) cigarette adverts
Keywords: rot13
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:51:11 GMT

In article <oysJuB2w165w@mantis.co.uk> Jonathan Egre' <jonathan@mantis.co.uk> writes:
>[Regarding obfuscated cigarette advertisements]
>
>Some months ago there was a cigarette ad which was a map of Bermuda and the
>surrounding ocean.  I never worked out which brand it was meant to 
>advertise, though I have a hunch that it was *********** (because of all
>the multi-coloured lettering).  Does anybody know?
>
>As far as I have been able to work out:
>
>    Purple fabric, especially if pierced or in the shape of a cutting 
>    tool, is "********".
>
>    Lots of loose letters, especially set on a background of gold, is
>    "***************".
>
>    "*******" is EITHER unnaturally slanted objects OR Viz-style top tips;
>    or possibly both (either-or because I can't quite remember).
>

Why are you giving these cancer mongers free advertising? The whole point of
these stupid adverts is to get people talking about them - it obviously works.
-- 
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From: idf@cs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Fitchet)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: humor in England
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:48:43 GMT
	<BxG2AG.3HE@cck.coventry.ac.uk> <1992Nov12.141530.2632@lsl.co.uk>
	<1992Nov19.124012.1601@rdg.dec.com>
	<IDF.92Nov20041404@fat-controller.cs.bham.ac.uk>
	<CAH.92Nov20115215@jemima.bham.ac.uk>
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham


 On Fri, 20 Nov 1992, Ceri Hopkins wrote
>Ian>  Might I suggest a sojourn in the Birmingham, Balti Capital of
>Ian> Britain?  I haven't been to a curry house where you CAN'T get pakora
>Ian> (vegetable by default and as for chicken, mushroom...) ah my mouth
>Ian> waters even now at the thought.

> Don't you ever get bored with the lack of variety of veg found in lots
> of pakora, i.e. mainly onions, potato, peas, and carrot? You only need
> some gram flour to make a paste including chillies, ginger etc. then
> you can make your own -- bind favourite handful of raw veg in gooey
> paste and deep fry.

 Don't you ever get bored with the lack of variety in curries found in
lots of curry houses.  You only need fresh spices, veg/meat then you
can make your own.... :-)

 Sorry, Ceri, couldn't resist.


 You pays your money you gets your choice.

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Cheers,

	Ian

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School of Computer Science
Univ. of Birmingham, UK, B15 2TT
From: adam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Adam Hamilton)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Curry (was Re: humor in England)
Keywords: Phew, what a scorcher
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:30:30 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Nov20.130835.28799@cs.nott.ac.uk> nlc@vulcan.xtel.co.uk (Neil Cook) writes:
>
>What's the hottest curry YOU've ever had?
	A Bangalore meat phall in Brighton sometime in the summer of 1972.
All the waiters stood around at the other end of the room and watched.  It
was delicious but a couple of times I hit a spot just a bit hotter than the
rest and thought I was going to have to quit.
	I couldn't manage one now, out of practice.
		Adam
P.S.  If you're competing, don't bother with vindaloos.  This was LOTS hotter.
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From: rcabrera@netcom.com (Raphael Cabrera)
Subject: classics in london
Keywords: classics, latin, greek, language
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:21:32 GMT

I will be spending much of the next two years in London and would
like to know if there are any universities which offer courses in
Latin and/or Greek.  Since I am not a student anymore, I will be 
working during the day part-time and am very interested in
taking courses at night.  Does anybody know of any university in
the London area which offers courses in the evening? 
You can send me e-mail directly at 
RCABRERA@NETCOM.COM
or post any replies to this newgroup. 
Thanks in advance.
From: sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Need pointers on internet connectivity in the UK
Date: 21 Nov 1992 01:55:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: chowning.cnmat.berkeley.edu


Hello,

I'm going to moving to the UK to take a job at University of Sussex, and I  
have some basic questions about the net.  Pardon me if this is not the  
best place to ask these questions, please give me a tip where I should  
post.

I gather that sites with direct connections to the internet are fairly few  
and far between in the UK, and that most sites interface to the net via  
something called Janet.  Does Janet have features like ftp and telnet, for  
file grabbing and remote logging in, respectively.

Anyone know anything about U.Sussex?  I discovered that there are some  
gateways with internet addresses of their own, but otherwise the  
connections from the US involve a hop or two across other systems.  Am I  
wrong, and that there are more machines there with a direct connection?

Thanks in advance,
--
Greg Sandell
Research Fellow, Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT)
sandell@cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu
From: sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Using US modems & answering machines in the UK
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:45:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: chowning.cnmat.berkeley.edu



I'm moving to the UK in March from the US.  Does anybody have  
experience getting US-made telephone answering machines to work with  
UK telephones?  It wouldn't surprise me that much if it doesn't  
work...answering machines depend on very specific behavior, and even  
some US phones don't provide that behavior (a friend of mine bought  
an answering machildn't work on his office telephone but it worked  
fine at home).

The same goes for modems.

Of course, I know that adapters for the AC plug (and no doubt the  
telephone plug as well) will be necessary.

Thanks in advance.
--
Greg Sandell
Research Fellow, Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT)
sandell@cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu


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From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:38:36 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov17.121155.1432@dct.ac.uk>, mcramm@dct.ac.uk (McRamm) writes:
> In article <721949208snz@muir.demon.co.uk>, malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk ("Malcolm S. Muir") writes:
>> 
>> Next argument - I say the first year of the 21st. century is 2001, not 2000
>> which is the last year of the 20th. century.
> 
> Correct. There was no year 0AD or 0BC since only Computing types start couting
> from 0 under normal circumstances. Hence decades don't begin until the year
> ends in a one. (years ending in 0 being the 10th of the previous decade)
> 
> Would someone please tell the Hogmanay/New Year's eve programme makers this, so
> we won't have a load of ill-informed drunks shouting happy new Millenium at
> Midnight on Dec. 31 1999.

I fully intend to be one of the ill-informed drunks on 31/12/99. I also
intend being a slightly better informed drunk on 31/12/2000 :-)
-- 

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Tel: (0382) 308810
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From: imcneill@mccomp.demon.co.uk (imcneill)
Subject: Re: Subtle (i.e. obscure) cigarette adverts 
Distribution: world
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:38:02 +0000

I think you'll find that the idea in all these super-subtle adds is to
eventually allow association of colour etc to advertise a cig.  It will not
be too long now, I assume, before all cig advertising is banned.  Thus what
other way to make you think about, for example, silk cut, than to have purple
coloured items in prominent positions in films tv etc.  
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From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Subject: Re: Gas inspection cover
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:16:28 GMT

In article <JC.92Nov16145544@mr-potter-t-crosser-i-dotter.fulcrum.co.uk>, jc@fulcrum.co.uk (John Callingham) writes:
|> The inspection cover to my gas meter is on the outside of my house and
|> has recently come off. British Gas have said that they will charge me
|> to repair it. Is this reasonable given that;-
|> 1. The cover appears to be the property of BG as it has their name on
|> it.
|> 2. I do not have a key to the cover.
|> 3. The cover has only ever been opened by BG employees.
|> 4. The cover is protecting BG equipment, i.e the meter.

The meter reader twice left the door (I called it) to the our meter
box open.  And both times, we didn't notice until it started banging
about in a subsequent gale.  On the first occasion (only one broken
hinge) we were able to jam it shut.  On the second occasion, we went
and moaned at BG.  We won - they replaced the whole box, and we didn't
pay.

So I would recommend that you fight it.  If the worst comes to the
worst, take it to consumer affairs at the council (or is there still a
Gas Consumer's Council? - I once had startling service after
approaching them in public industry days).  You could probably
usefully threaten to take them to the small claims court if they _do_
charge, since it's their servants who are at fault.

Good luck.

And, by the way, you _should_ have a key to the box, since that's
where the stop-cock is.  It should be easily accessible at all times,
so that if you have a leak you can quickly switch off the supply
(_before_ calling BG).
--
Robin (come back John Drummond) Fairbairns       rf@cl.cam.ac.uk
U of Cambridge Computer Lab, Pembroke St, Cambridge  CB2 3QG, UK
"They had twelve years to lay in wait for us" - Bush supporter on Nov 4
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Was: Re: 29 Feb 2000?, Now: 2000/2001
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:50:24 GMT
	<28248@castle.ed.ac.uk> <JRG.92Nov17115110@oak22.doc.ic.ac.uk>
	<1992Nov17.145205.18974@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland


   In <721949208snz@muir.demon.co.uk> malcolm@muir.demon.co.uk ("Malcolm S. Muir") writes:

   > Next argument - I say the first year of the 21st. century is
   > 2001, not 2000 which is the last year of the 20th. century.

2000 Anno Domini ought to mean that it's 2000 years since Jesus Christ was
born.  When he was born, it was no *years* since he was born, therefore his
first year of life was spent in AD 0, surely?  His second year of life was
therefore AD 1, and so on - so 2000 AD ought to be the start of the 21st century.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: How to claim II
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:59:32 GMT
Organization: City University, London

Thanks for all the comments on claiming against a third
party that damaged our car. I have had a couple of
estimates for the repair, namely 800 quid and 2000 quid,
both from Audi garages. The car is an 1983 Audi 80 GL, 
and the trade would probably list it as worth 700 quid.

The car was looked after very well by my brother for
most of its life and it is a gem. It drives beautifully
and is functionally and bodily perfect in every way
(like my wife :-) I can see no functional difference
between our Audi and my brothers Mercedes costing
7000 quid. They have in fact the same mileage. The Audi
is totally reliable, starts first time every time,
economical and glides along silently on the motorway.
It has central locking, electric windows - the works.
The only thing wrong with it is the impacted boot caused
by said party.

The question is, can I force the offending party to pay
for the repair of the car, rather than being offered
only 700 quid? There is no way I can find a car like
that for 700 quid on the open market, as I got it from
my brother. I would rather use it in its damaged state
than have to give it up for an paltry 700 quids.

--
Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
From: sdl@cs.bham.ac.uk (Simon D Levitt)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: 29 Feb 2000?
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:30:46 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Birmingham, UK

In article <1992Nov19.095709.13507@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
>In article <CC.92Nov19092817@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
>>
>>I'm sure people will soon start saying "Twenty One" for 2001, and so on.
>>Much easier, if a wee bit ambiguous.
>
>Completely ambiguous!  "Twenty one" is short for 1921 or 2021 -- it can't
>be used for 2001 as well.  (And "Twenty One -- A Space Odyssey" just
>doesn't have the right ring to it...)
>
Lets start with a question....

How do you say 1901???.... Nineteen One?... I don't!, I say 'Nineteen O One'.

So it seems to me that people will say 'Twenty O One', no problem there!

Simon.,
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