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From: migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey)
Subject: Re: U.S. "Dream Team"
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:15:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.012044.8932@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>Defensemen: NYR Brian Leetch, WIN Phil Housley, CHI Chris Chelios,
>	NYI Tom Kurvers, CAL Gary Suter, WAS Kevin Hatcher, TOR Dave Ellett,

Ellet considers himself Canadian -- he tried out for Team Canada at the
last Canada Cup.  He was born in the US while his Canadian father was
playing minor league hockey, just like Moe Mantha, Mark Howe and a few
others.  Ellet actually grew up in the Ottawa area, I believe.

-- 
Mike Godfrey                                "I came so far for beauty,
Dept of Comp Sci, UofT                       I left so much behind."
migod@turing.toronto.edu                                -- Leonard Cohen
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: SENATORS NEWS: Quick game review, ticket info, Madeley update
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:46:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.100349.17021@bcrka451.bnr.ca> simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson) writes:
>
>But this pesky little weenie, Felix Potvin, kept getting in the way of that
>little black thingie going into that meshy-square thing.  Yeesh, was he on fire
>tonight (he stopped 36 shots tonight).  You can't tell me Fuhr is going to be 
>with the Leafs for long.  I would imagine he'll get back from the injury, 
>they'll play him a few times to show he hasn't lost anything, and *whammo*.  
>See ya in the papers, Grant.

Think they can get Damphousse back for him and Anderson?  (evil grin)

Potvin should have been playing in Toronto last season; had he been playing
there, the Leafs would have made the playoffs.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
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From: hoebel@cs.rochester.edu (Lou Hoebel)
Subject: Re: The Senators finish first!!!  (Sort of...)
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:18:36 GMT

In article <9211121956.AA28975@makwa.USask.ca> chin836@skdad.usask.ca writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.053057.26768@bcrka451.bnr.ca> simpson@bnr.ca writes:
>>Anyway, this is all coming out because the Senators have mailed the season
>>ticket holders renewal bills for next year *already*.  Add to that a 2-5%
>>increase in ticket prices, a slumping team and the fact that it's barely
>>November and people are being asked to pay for games that won't be happening
>>for another 11 months, you've got the fixyn's for some unenthralled people.
>
>The Cenators can sell off the hype that is sure to surround Alexandre Daigle, a
>17-year-old super-prospect in the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League, come next
>spring.  Daigle is on pace to score about 260-270 points over a full season,
>which he is unlikely to play because of the World Juniors this winter.  This
>leads me to the question:  How did Mario play 70 games in the 1983-84 QMJHL
>season?  I guess he didn't play in the World Juniors that winter.

There was a breif news report on (CKWS?) and the drift was that Daigle
was involved in some on-ice incident....somebody got hurt.
They rolled some home video of a player slumped in a corner and saying
that Daigle's chances to break the QMJHL record was now in doubt.
Anybody have some details.


BTW, is anyone surprised that the +/- leaders are
Odelin, Kurri and Sweeney ?

-- 
->Louis Hoebel
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:54:54 -0500 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Pens-4 NStars-1


>Ulf Samuelsson wasn't out for the 3rd period.  In fact, he may have
left the ga
>me
>during the second.  No word on why he left the game.

Maybe his knees were bothering him.

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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: LIGHTNING NEWS: Detroit vs. TB 11/11
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:16:01 GMT

DET - 1 0 3 - 4
TB  - 3 1 2 - 6

1 - TB  Bradley 9   (Hodge, Kontos)         1:18 (pp)
    DET Fedorov 6   (Ciccarelli, Lidstrom) 10:27 (pp)
    TB  Kontos 17   (Zamuner, Ramage)      12:04 (pp)
    TB  Zamuner 4   (Crossman, Ramage)     18:27 (pp)

2 - TB  Beers 4     (DiMaio, Cole)          6:36

3 - DET Yzerman 12  (Sheppard, Probert)     0:42
    TB  Kontos 18   (Bureau, Bradley)       1:05
    DET Carson 6    (Drake, Ciccarelli)     9:34
    DET Chiasson 5  (Howe, Fedorov)        18:41
    TB  Creighton 3 (Taglianetti)          19:59 (en)

Shots on goal: DET 13-8-13--34
               TB   8-6-10--24
Power plays:   DET 1 of 5
               TB  3 of 7
Goalies:       DET Cheveldae 4-7-0, 23 shots, 18 saves
               TB  Jablonski 5-2-2, 34 shots, 30 saves
Attendance:    10,425 (3rd sellout)

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LIGHTNING SIT ATOP DIVISION

* Tampa Bay beats Detroit, 6-4, to lead Norris Division

So who needs a baseball team anyway?

Having already knocked off the defending Patrick Division champions (New York
Rangers [they're talking regular season OBVIOUSLY so save your claims, those
who worship playoff titles]) Monday -- on the road, no less -- the Tampa Bay
Lightning gave Detroit (defending Norris Division champs [ditto]) the bum's
rush on Wednesday, rollicking to a 6-4 triumph over the Red Wings in front of
a sellout crowd of 10,425 at Expo Hall.

Unlike the forces trying to baseball to the Bay area [ha ha, THE Bay area],
this Lightning team is swinging and connecting. There is no bigger story in the
NHL than the surprising success of Tampa Bay.

Ahem. Make that FIRST-PLACE Tampa Bay.

The Lightning received another two-goal night from Chris Kontos -- whose 18
goals rank him second in the league, behind only Mario Lemieux -- and three
power-play goals in the opening period, not to mention another strong
performance from goaltender Pat Jablonski, who is unbeaten in his last five
games.

For nearly 59 minutes, the Lightning never seemed in trouble, even though the
Red Wings were firing most of the shots. A blast by defenseman Steve Chiasson
found its way through a maze of players and into Tampa Bay's net with 1:18
left, slicing the gap to 5-4, but the Lightning -- backboned by Jablonski --
held the fort.

Tampa Bay's Adam Creighton added an exclamation point to the victory, scoring
into an empty net from the far end of the rink, some 180 feet away, as the
buzzer sounded and the crowd celebrated in approval.

Like Jablonski, the Lightning (8-8-2) -- who reached .500 for the first time
since Oct. 24 -- are red-hot. They are unbeaten in their last five games, and
wake up this morning tied with Toronto atop the Norris Division standings.

Tom

P.S. the bum's rush?
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From: au021@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roland Behunin)
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Subject: San Diego 3, Salt Lake 2
Date: 12 Nov 1992 19:01:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I don't have a box score, but Salt Lake lost to San Diego last night in Salt 
Lake City.  This makes San Diego 13-0-1, with the next game against
Salt Lake on Friday the 13th.  San Diego had Knickles in net, Salt Lake had Trevor Kidd in net.

If i find a box score I will post
Roland Behunin
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From: broger@bnr.ca (Roger Balakrishnan)
Subject: Brett Hull getting a new contract ???
Reply-To: broger@bnr.ca (Roger Balakrishnan)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 18:20:26 GMT


Bob Mckenzie on TSN said that Brett Hull was negotiating
a Mario Lemieux style contract. Has anyone heard anything 
about this ... 
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:20:33 EST
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Monday's (11/9) Game Of The Night!

It's A Hockey Night In Canada!  Oh, Canada, our home and native land.
True patriot love...and for the love of hockey, let's make this the 5-star must
 see game of the night.  The Calgary Flames vs. the Montreal Canadiens.
Flames playing on back to back nights, could be a factor.  Watch this one!
It's the game of the year to date!
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2 stars (for diehards)
Tampa Bay at New York Rangers.  Hey, Tampa's respectible at 6-8-2, but this is
the Garden on a Monday night.  (Why do the Rangers always play in the Garden
on Monday, anyways?  Is this some kind of law?  Yeah, I thought so!)  The only
Lightning here will be in the Rangers factor, yet miracles on ice are
possible too.
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1 star (Contribute your story to Gretzky's REAL whereabouts!)
Toronto at Ottawa.  Hey, if you beat the league's top team at the time, and
lose to the league's bottom team, you've got a lot of explaining to do.  The
Hockey Hall Of Fame would be Shamed should the Leafs fail to get the job done.
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"It's A Great Day For Hockey!"-Badger Bob Johnson.  Enjoy the games!
** Robbie Po **
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From: John_Carson@mindlink.bc.ca (John Carson)
Subject: Re: Semenov
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:15:42 GMT

Semenov did come to the Canucks for Dave Capuano and a draft pick. The key
was a player for Tampa Bay roster now but a new potential player through the
draft process.

Capuano came to VANCOUVER from PITTSBURGH with Andrew McBain(TB) and Dan
Quinn(PHI) in exchange for Rod Buskas, Barry Pederson, Toni Tanti. All six in
my opinion are low valued players.

Pittsburgh doesn't have any of their three around anymore. We gave up on
McBain in the EXPANSION draft and Quinn went to SL in the big trade for
Courtnall, Ronning, Momesso, Dirk trade. Capuano was a reject who didn't play
at all last year because he was cut from the CANUCKS and was sent down to the
minors.

I would say Capuano was a roster filler in Hamilton this year so I would say
SEMENOV is a natural goal scorer THAT WAS our gain and what was really lost
was the DRAFT PICK.

John


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From: Tom_Gowdyk@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom Gowdyk)
Subject: Re: Ronning going to arbitration (wasRe: CANUCK'S
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:15:21 GMT

Anyone who thinks a salary of $500,000 per year is embarrassing...can feel
totally free to embarrass the hell outta me for a similar amount.  Its time
some of these sports personalities wake up and smell the roses.  Their
salaries are being paid by the "little guys" like me who make a fraction of
what they make in a year and have to work longer hours to do it.  Maybe they
should go out in the real world and see if they can make that kind of money
out here.  I gave up my Canuck season tickets in 1982 when the price rose
from $400 per seat per season to $500 per seat per season...They are now
$1800 per seat.  I can't afford it, and I'll settle for watching them on TV
and listening to the radio.

Heck, it cost me close to $1000 per year to play hockey.

Tom Gowdyk

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From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Goalies (was Re: U.S. "Dream Team")
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:14:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.173105.3919@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:

>Moog and Barrasso can't carry Richter's and Vanbiesbrouck's jocks.

And Richter and Beezer can't carry Barrasso's Cups...

Lori
From: p7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Anthony Jang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Penguins' news
Date: 6 Nov 1992 11:19:19 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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In article <1992Nov6.182633.28567@sei.cmu.edu> sad@sei.cmu.edu (Susan Dart) writes:
>Mario definitely has back problems - a friend of mine talked to one of his
>doctors, and a new problem has appeared in the middle back. The doctors don't
>know what this new problem is.
>
>Susan Dart

Say it isn't so.  Despite not being on my hockey pool, he is the best
player in the league right now.  If Mario has an early forced retirement,
it would be a great pity.  Maybe he should start resting now for the
playoffs, nah, that's just my hockey pool side talking.

Just my thoughts,
Tony
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From: scholvin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Scholvin)
Subject: Hawks News 11-13
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:08:08 GMT

The Hawks extended their winning streak to 4 last night, beating the Blues 1-0
in the Stadium.  The Hawks appear to be improving in most areas of their game
lately, as they are 6-1-2 in their last 9 games.  The lone goal was scored by
Jocelyn Lemieux (his 4th of the year) late in the 2nd period off a beatiful
feed from Ruuttu.  In a 2 on 2, Ruuttu rushed the puck up from center ice, and
Lemieux was on his left wing.  He dished to Lemieux near the bottom of the
circle, and Jocelyn surprised Joseph (and most of us watching) by quickly
flipping the wrist shot past him to the short side.  Joseph commented
afterward that he was expecting Jocelyn to wind up and crank one.  

Just like last Thursday (when the Hawks won 1-0), this was a battle royale of
goaltenders, and it was a shame that one had to lose.  Belfour and Joseph were
the #1 and #2 stars of the game, respectively.  Neither faced an incredibly
high number of shots (I think the Hawks outshot the Blues 22-16), but that is
kind of misleading as there were several 2-1, 3-2, and 3-1 rushes in both
directions that resulted in a shot going high or wide.  Generally, though,
both teams played pretty good defense.  The Hawks continue to be able to shut
down Brett Hull, limiting him to four shots (three late in the game).

During this nine game stretch, Ruuttu has 5 goals and 5 assists.  Right now,
it seems like it's the "role-player" type guys on the Hawks who are carrying
the bulk of the load. Guys like Ruuttu, Lemieux, Matteau, Christian, and
Graham are playing the most consistent hockey right now while some of the
superstars (Roenick, Larmer, Chelios, Smith, Belfour, Goulet) struggle to find
their rhythms.  All of these guys have had brilliant moments, but not the
excellence that their pasts (and their contracts!) would suggest.  When they
come around, though, look out.  This team will be world beaters.

UPCOMING:

A home and home this weekend against Minnesota, and then the Hawks depart on
the two week "circus" road trip that has been a Wirtz tradition for twenty
years.  The good news is that there's two weeks' of games that will be
televised.  It will be a real test of this team's mettle to see if they can
continue their hot streak on the road, somewhere they haven't been spectacular
in the last two years.

(pardon the typos here...I'm typing this on a machine with a load average in
the 60's and I'm not in the mood to wait for this editor to catch up to my
typing anymore!)

-- 
John Scholvin                           |  "Sometimes I wish I was Catholic
scholvin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu            |   I don't know why"
echo Y | del c:\windows\*.*             |       -Cracker
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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey,can.politics,soc.culture.canada,can.general
Subject: Re: Mulroney next NHL Commissioner
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 07:18:15 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck) writes:

- The big rumor in The Sunday Province was that the Prime Ministers
- Office has called up the NHL asking how someone applies for the new
- Commissioner job.
-
- Imagine it -- Brian Mulroney as NHL Commissioner.
-
-
- You know, curling isn't that bad as a winter sport. :)
-
-
- --
- ============================================================================
- "We've got to get bigger guns" -- Dick Durkin                  schuck@sfu.ca
- ============================================================================

  I HOPE this is someone's idea of a VERY BAD joke.  I'd rather se Tom Wilson,
the FAQ holder, take over rather than the absolute disaster master.

  Mulroney ??!! NNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
American (n) - A person resident or born on the Continient of America
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: Wrens escape Lightning burns
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:22:53 GMT

"Thomas J. Joyce" <tj06+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
>You missed one key point: the Pens clearly had trouble playing on that
>"Woodstock's birdbath" that TB calls an ice rink. TB demonstrated that
>they know their home rink very well. Their road record backs up their
>disparity of home/away too. Both teams played hard. Again, Lemieux
>makes a difference.

That's a good excuse. Now it will be that Stevens is out. Next week, it will
be a different excuse.

>Hmmm, that article wasn't too biased, Mr. "I hate the Pens" Wilson, was it.
                                                      ^    ^
                                              obnoxious    fans

You need to patch that. I have nothing against the team. I have never met or
talked to any of them. Note also that this excludes many Pens fans too, since
I'm only referring to the obnoxious bandwaggon jumping jerks.

>Tom Joyce
>(reason for Mr. Wilson's self-imposed exile a few weeks back)

Keep dreaming. I made that decision long before your crap came into my mailbox.
Glenn Chin can vouch for that (as well as the statement about the fans above).
Fortunately there are more good people on the net than the bad.

You typify the paranoid. I post an article that opposes the dozens of articles
that have been posted THIS SEASON about how great the team is, and all of a
sudden I hate the players. I already had you classified, but thanks for
checking in. Thanks for coming out of the woodwork and posting more noise.

Perhaps I should post a biased article to give you TWO something to think
about.

Tom
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Players who changed the sport
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:21:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.130645.32490@watson.ibm.com> stripsky@methane.vnet.ibm.com (James M. Stripsky) writes:
>What about the "Broad Street Bullies"?  That was a team that won through
>toughness and intimidation.  If it moved, they hit it.  If it didn't move,
>they would make it move, and then hit it.  Even with a few superstars, the
>emphasis was on team play and discipline.  Sounds like any team that Mike
>Keenan coaches.
> 

The Flyers won those Cups in the seventies for primarily two reasons...
they had a great goaltender, and talent levels in the league were
depleted as a result of the WHA.  They were an ugly aberation and not
much else.

Gerald
From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Future Bruin Call-Ups from Providence?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 22:48:49 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
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One can not help but notice the scoring exploits of Josef Stumpel and Tim
Sweeney down in Providence.  I am curious as to what those who follow the
Bruins think about seeing either of these two with the parent club before
season's end.  Between the two, who is "more" ready to step in and contribute
offensively this year, and do you think it will happen?  Assuming Boston's
first line is untouchable, where would be the ideal place to fit in Stumpel or
Sweeney?  Just curious ...

Brad

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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:09:00 EST
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: POWER RATINGS, one man's opinion - 11/9/92

It's just another manic Monday...thank you Susanna Hoffs.
More importantly, here's the new power poll (to be used someday on Powerstick
Hockey!)-----------------------------------------------------------------------
#1 Boston Bruins.  Fantastic comeback against the Rangers.  Looking pretty at
                   8-2-2.  Look out Habs!
2. Pittsburgh Penguins.  You win some you lose some.  After Minny, start a
                         big stretch of games where they play home-away-home-
                         away-home-away.  "In and Out" games.  Could be
                         tough on the body.  No rest for the ___________!
4. New York Rangers.  Don't expect them to be out of the top 5 once the entire
                      year.  We all know about expectations though!
5. Calgary Flames.  Yep, last year WAS a fluke!
3. Montreal Canadiens.  Canada's top team.  Got some offense, Roy's off to a
                        typical 8-2-2 start.  But, those Bruins are ready to
                        pounce.  Can't wait for tonight!  Flames/Habs -
                        ready to rumble!  Will greatly influence next week's
                        poll.

Opinions expressed here are written consent of Robbie Po.  Any rebroadcast
without the consent of ESPN, KBL, whoops!  Too much hockey!  Nah!  Never too
much hockey for anyone.  Nothing outlasts the NHL - it keeps going and going
and going and going (without a major t.v. contract) and going..................
-Rob
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