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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:19:39 CST
From:         CCCAMPER@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: EWTN
              5 Jan 1993 18:06:30 CST from <elendil@MINTIR.NEW-ORLEANS.LA.US>

On Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:06:30 CST Edward J. Branley said:
>Well, I wouldn't say that I object to the Medjugorje apparitions, I just have
>problems believing in their legitimacy.  The main reason I agree with the
>characterization 'dubious' is that they don't resemble the circumstances of any
>of the other Marian apparitions recognized by the Church.  At Fatima and

This may be an indication of the seriousness with which Our Father is
attempting to get our attention.

>Lourdes, for example, Mary appeared for a short period of time and left a
>tangible sign of her presence at the conclusion of the apparitions.  Medjugorje
>has been going on for over 10 years.  I don't find belief in the apparations

>objectionable, it's just that faith has not moved me to be a believer.  Combine
>that with the Church's refusal as of yet to sign off on the apparitions, I'm
>skeptical.

Our Lady has said that when she ceases to appear at Medjugorje, she will
never again appear on Earth. So it is not surprising to me that she would
continue to appear until the work is done. And there *will* be a permanent
sign left when the apparitions end. As for the Church, it is my understanding
that it is not supposed to make a judgement until the apparitions have
ended. I didn't hear that the Church was "refusing" to do anything. ?

>|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
>|Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087|

  To Mirjana on her birthday (1986 or 87) a message from Our Lady
  "My dear children, I have come to lead you to purity of the soul, and
thus to God. How have you accepted me? In the beginning with disbelief,
fear and distrust towards the children whom I have chosen. Then, most
received me in their heart and began to carry out my motherly requests.
But unfortunately, this did not last very long. Wherever I manifest
myself, and with me My Son, Satan turns up also. You have allowed him
to control and guide you without your being aware of it. You are
sometimes aware that your behavior is against the law of God, but you
quickly suppress it. Do not give in, my children. Dry away the tears
on my face, tears that I shed when I see how you behave. Look at
what is going on around you!
  Take time to get together as a family and pray for the grace of God..
Do not scorn the poor who beg for a crust of bread. Do not refuse them
the overabundance of your meals. Help them and God will also help you..
Do not delude yourselves by thinking that you are good, but that your
brother who lives near you is not. You would not be right in doing so.
  I am your mother and that is why I am warning you. There are some
secrets, my children, and you do not know what they are; but when
they will be known, it will be late! Go back to prayer! Nothing is
more necessary than prayer! I would have liked the Lord to let me
enlighten you at least a little on the secrets, but He is already
offering enough graces. Reflect on this! How much do you offer
yourselves to Him? When was the last time you gave up something for
the Lord?
....I want to call you once again to prayer, fasting, and to penance.
If you wish to obtain the grace of God through fasting, then let
no one know you are fasting; if you wish to obtain the grace of God
by giving alms to the poor, let no one know you are doing so.
  Meditate in prayer, my dear children, this message which I am giving
you..."

Love in Jesus and Mary,
Elizabeth

"Mercy is the flower of Love."
                              Sr. Faustina, "Divine Mercy in My Soul"
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