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From: bernal@sanandreas.ecn.purdue.edu (Andres  Bernal)
Subject: Colombia Nov. 22
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:39:27 GMT


========================================================================
|     Grupo A - Nov 18                           |  Posiciones         | 
========================================================================
| En Bogota      : Santa Fe (2) Nacional (1)     |  America     8.00   |
| En Cali        : America  (3) U. M/dalena  (0) |  Nacional    6.75   |
|                                                |  Santa Fe    4.00   |
|------------------------------------------------|  M/dalena    4.50   |
|          Fecha : 22 de Noviembre               |                     |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
| En Cali         : America   vs   Santa fe  2 - 1                     |
| En Santa Marta  : U. M/dalena vs Nacional  2 - 2                     |
|                                                                      |
|=======================================================================

========================================================================
|     Grupo B - Noviembre 18                     |   Posiciones        |
========================================================================
| En Bucaramanga : B/Manga     (1)  Millos (0)   |  Junior      5.75   |
| En B/Quilla    : Junior      (0)  Cali   (1)   |  Cali        6.75   |
|                                                |  B/Manga     5.00   |
|------------------------------------------------|  Millos      3.75   |
|           Fecha : 22 de Noviembre               |                     |
|----------------------------------------------------------------------|
| En Bogota       : Millonarios vs Cali    0 - 1                       |
| En Bucaramanga  : Bucaramanga vs Junior  1 - 1                       |
|                                                                      |
|=======================================================================

Santafe, Union y Millos estan eliminados.  Bucaramanga se la juega toda en Cali.El jueves se sortean las fechas y el domingo es la primera fecha del cuadrangular final.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: WC qualifing Group tables please??????????????
From: <KEMCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 18 Nov 1992 11:38:21 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

hi,
  since i am in the US i don't get a lot of the results to the WC qualifing
matches. thus i would be grateful if some of you guys could post the results
to every single group across the planet, most importantly the point standings
 table.(groups 1-6 in Europe; Asia; Oceania; definitely South America;etc.)
i am out of touch with groups 1,2 and 3 of Europe.
                                                          thanks,
                                                            Kenny.
hi Marco
From: vdschoot@csi.UOttawa.CA (Hans van der Schoot)
Subject: Re: Good luck Kaiserslautern!
Keywords: UEFA Cup
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 23:55:12 GMT

In article <By66xr.wE@sus.edu.eur.nl>, bkjongen@sus.edu.eur.nl (Jan-Pieter Jongenotter) writes:
|> A warm hello to all Kaiserslautern fans and players.
|> Could you please make me and many dutch people happy
|> by defeating Ajax?
|> They are probably the most arrogant team in the world.
|> I'm waiting for almost two years now for the moment they
|> wil be put in their place (or lower).
|> It's all in your hands.
|> So for the last time now : Good luck!


What kind of a Dutchman are you? Betraying a team from your own country.
And what makes it worse is that you're cheering for a German team now.
Gosh, you must have sunk very deep.

What is so arrogant about Ajax. Although they haven't won the national
league very often over the last decade (once or twice), they are still
a very good team (Let's not talk about historical results, because in
that case Ajax is still by far the best in our little country). What
impresses me the most is the fact that Ajax is still a European top team,
in spite of their low budget. Besides that, they always seem to manage the
loss of "big" players (who are usually created in Amsterdam) like Rijkaard,
van Basten, Bergkamp in the near future, Kieft, Vanenburg, Witschge & Witschge,
Koeman, etc., etc.. And who does usually take over these players? If it isn't
a Berlusconi type of guy with an overloaded wallet in Italy or Spain, then it
will certainly be PSV (is that what you are, a PSV fan). I remember PSV playing
with about 8 ex-Ajax players, i.e. Ajax2.

So, reconsider your opinion and sing with me next wednesday:

	De herdertjes lagen bij na-ha-hachten,
	zij lagen bij nacht in het veld.
	Daar hoorden zij engeltjes zingen:

AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX AJAX

We're coming from Amsterdam and will kick some German ass :-) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hans van der Schoot


P.S. He, it feels good to express yourself once in a while :-)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer)
Subject: Re: Just laughing at England
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 18:27:30 GMT

In article <BxtIHF.DK0@cen.ex.ac.uk> cs92aja@cen.ex.ac.uk (A.J.Amsel) writes:
>As an English fan and also an England fan I would like to say that I and
>many friends all think that to much is expected of England too often. The
>pressure to do well with an average team can push a decent manager - G.T.
>into making rubbish decisions. If he makes a decision he thinks is right but
>some bod at the Sun or where ever disagress, then automatically it is written
>up as if the whole country disagrees.
>

Well, with the Holiday season approaching the subject of Turkey's had to come
up :-) I'll always take anyone to task when Graham "Watford Way" Taylor is
called a decent manager, Sun or no Sun. England could be more than an
average team if they had more than a less than average manager. The arguments
about the merits of leaving out key skilled players like Waddle have been
well exercised before. Hoddle should *still* be playing international level
football.

I'm hoping for a good result against the Turks, but has anyone got any comments
about England's long term (i.e. WC 94) chances with Taylor at helm?


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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Re: World Youth Cup Draw
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:37:57 GMT


: 4. United States (how much are they paying FIFA for this one?)
: 		 (apologies to the folks in the US but it seems
: 		  all this development is going real fast, are you
: 		  guys really this good or is it part of the WC '94 thing)
: 

God this realy pisses me off.  How can we be constantly perceived as buying
our way into soccer.  Why do people who consisitently have no idea of the 
development of US soccer continually comment on it?  As most of us know who
follow soccer here in the states, every level except the senior side is very
strong.  Our young kids are approached by major countries every day to try
and get them to come and play with their development squads.  The US has
already over 30 players playing in different leagues around the world and this
number wil only go up as the new players are consistently getting better than
the group before them.  And no, we are realy not that good, yet, but we are
improving by leaps and bounds every year.  No longer are we the weak sister
from the concacaf group.  We have beaten Mexico on every occasion, save one
in the last two years at all levels.  

Its incredible to me that someone from Australia(whose development paralels the
US's) could complain about the US getting better.  Is the world realy this
afraid of the US taking over soccer?  Don't worry, that will never happen, but
hopefully we can keep improving and be a solid soccer playing country, at
least at the international level.

Andy
From: henrique@white.dfci.harvard.edu (Henrique M. Silva)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Palmeiras - Corinthians  Today
Date: 18 Nov 92 06:36:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: white.9211181838.AA25850
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


     Oi rapaziada. How is it going?
     Can anybody confirm that tonight, Palmeiras plays Corinthians for the
second round of the Sao Paulo Championship, and if so, can you write me 
how much was it that Palmeiras beat the "gamba"?

     If you are brazilian, let your voice be heard on the "net". Let us show
that this network does not consist only of "Laughing at England" stuff. Lets
talk about our passion for our clubs, eventhough they sell everybody away.
Lets go VERDAO, beat the "GAMBA".

PALMEIRAS CAMPEAO PAULISTA DE 1992 (Does not it sounds great? )

Henrique Silva
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: harin@iti.gov.sg (Harinderpal Singh)
Subject: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Originator: harin@heidi.iti.gov.sg
Reply-To: harin@iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute National Computer Board
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:27:45 GMT


>, Andy Yin Meau <am5q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> 
|> Deos anyone know when Manchester United are playing Everton, or did they
|> play each other already?

According to my most reliable information source (my computer!), it was

19 Aug	Manchester Utd   0-3   Everton
12 Sep	Everton          0-2   Manchester Utd

Cheers,
	Harin
	~~~~~

-- 
Harinderpal Singh Grewal                                     harin@iti.gov.sg
National Computer Board, Singapore                     harinder@itivax.bitnet
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From: JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SwRI.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: Re: Rules Query
Date: 16 Nov 1992 08:33:36 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Trickery is spelled out in a FIFA memorandum issued two weeks after the first 
memorandum describing the Law Changes. It is very specific about what 
constitutes trickery and the punishment for it. Basically, however, you have 
captured the essence of it when you say it is a violation of the Spirit of 
the Game.

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
From: ial@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Iain Lindsey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Barnsley FC - Is anybody out there?
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:29:55 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

Yes, I do, but I've only ever seen one game, so I'm not what you call a "die hard".

Iain
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: bjornar@fdh.hsf.no (Bj|rnar Steinbakken)
Subject: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Organization: Finnmark College
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:35:26 GMT
Reply-To: bjornar@fdh.hsf.no

In article 1e8ja9INNggg@bnsgd245.bnr.co.uk, bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro) writes:
>In article <Uf12IWW00iUxQ6B1tf@andrew.cmu.edu> Andy Yin Meau <am5q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>
>>Deos anyone know when Manchester United are playing Everton, or did they
>>play each other already?
>
>They've already played each other twice. Due to the weird machinations of
>the Leagues fixture computer, the fixtures on Aug 18/19 were repeated less
>than a month later on Sep 12/13/14.

Results: Manchester United - Everton  0 - 3   ( two goals by Beardsley)
         Everton - Manchester United 0 - 2   (  at least one by McClair)


=======================================================
Bj|rnar Steinbakken          e-mail: bjornar@fdh.hsf.no  
Finnmark College (Finnmark DH)      phone: +47 84 37600
Follums vei, N-9500 Alta, Norway      fax: +47 84 34438
From: phucn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Miss D A Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: ENGLAND TEAM
Date: 19 Nov 1992 14:23:04 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: edam.csv.warwick.ac.uk


    In light of the past few performances of England,what team would everyone
pick???

If there were no injury problems to face,then this would be my team.....

l.   Chris Woods (Sheff Wed)   - Done sufficiently well to keep Seaman out
2.   Lee Dixon  (Arsenal )     - Showed last night he still has flair
3.   Stuart Pearce (Notts F)   - An inspirational captain
4.   Neil Webb  (Man U/Nott F) - Now he's on the move will be great again
5.   Des Walker (Sampdoria)    - Classy defender
6.   Tony Adams (Arsenal)      - A tower of strength
7.   David Platt (Juventus)    - Works tirelessly    
8.   Paul Gascoigne (Lazio)    - Need we say more???
9.   Alan Shearer (Blackburn)  - A battler
10.  Paul Merson (Arsenal)     - Adaptable forward with skill and pace
11.  David Batty (Leeds U)     - Strong worker

12.  Martin Keown (Everton)    - Excellent prospect
13.  David Seaman (Arsenal)    - I'm biased!!
14.  Gary Parker (Aston Villa) - A classy midfielder with great touch
15.  Chris Waddle (Sheff Wed)  - Shows excitement
16.  Ian Wright (Arsenal)      - A natural goalscorer

       Anyway,I know it's a bit strong on the midfield side,but with Gazza,
Platt ,Merson and Webb coming up to support Shearer,we would have ample
attacking options....

The actual line up would be: -

                       Seaman

  Dixon          Walker      Adams         Pearce


              Webb    Batty    Platt

         Gascoigne                  Merson


                       Shearer

What does everyone else think?

            Debs
From: phucn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Miss D A Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: ENGLAND - congrats
Date: 19 Nov 1992 13:07:56 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk

   All I can say is CONGRATS to England for finally winning a game,and
to Graham Taylor for actually keeping faith with his team.Even Lee played
well....what is the world coming to??

   Anyway,for all you Tony Adams haters out there .......

          .....He played superbly as usual,as did boogying little Wrighty

Now all we need is for the manager to see sense and play Merson,and then we
would absolutely destroy the opposition.....(I rest my case on Seaman...Woods
did play pretty well)


Now that all the Arsenal internationals are blossoming,and the strike force
is gathering up momentum,it only bids well for the future.Leeds - we are going
to DESTROY you..... 

             Deb

********************************************************************************

   Arsenal FC    Simply the best.....

******************************************************************************

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: tim@research.nj.nec.com (Tim Van Der Avoird)
Subject: Re: Alltime Club Standings (additional info)
Originator: tim@mercury
Organization: NEC Research Institute
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 23:40:00 GMT

In article <9211162251.AA01494@zeus.physast.uga.edu> loris@zeus.physast.uga.edu (Loris Magnani) writes:
>OK, after a bit of work I've managed to compile the alltime standings
>for the first 17 European sides in all three competions (Champions,
>Cup-Winners, UEFA/Fairs Cups) since their inception. 

If we take a look at the average number of points a team won in each
match we get a completely different picture:

  Borussia M.   1.40
  Liverpool     1.36
  Juventus      1.35
  Bayern M.     1.35
  Ajax          1.30
  Real Madrid   1.30
  Barcelona     1.28
  Hamburger SV  1.27
  AC Milan      1.25
  Atletico Ma.  1.24
  Anderlecht    1.23
  FC Koeln      1.23
  Benifca       1.22
  Celtic        1.22
  Inter         1.20
  Red Star B.   1.16
  Rangers       1.13 


Regards,

Tim
From: ccaaipv@ucl.ac.uk (Ioannis Verikokakis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: ENGLAND GO IN SEARCH OF GOALS AGAINST TURKEY
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:38:57 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

(Richard Moores) writes:


>>     Captain Stuart Pearce said: "There are no whipping boys
>> in international football these days.

>Q) Why are we subjected to the identical pre-game excuse every time we
>(England) are playing teams that everybody knows that England should
>humiliate if we were half as good as we make ourselves believe.

>A) Because we are not half as good. The management in my opinion is CRAP.
>It was EMBARRASING to watch the Euro Championships here in N.America (or
>anywhere else), where the game has a hard enough time surviving, with
>England's pathetic long ball tactics.

>Because of our 4-0 win tonight, I suppose the pressure will be eased for
>Taylor's head, but I believe that the sooner he goes, the sooner the chance
>that England have of building a team that has a hope against the top sides,
>and hopefully a chance of reaching and succeeding in the USA.

>For my money, Cloughie has to be given a chance. The man is a PROVEN winner
>(Taylor is not), with a great track record for building good footballing
>TEAMS, and getting the very best out of the talents at his disposable. I
>think the time has come to silence the "Clough In" chants of the past 10+
>years and install him as manager. Then we can all find out if they were
>warranted.

>My 2p worth.

>Richard Moores - Koppite In Exile    
>Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada.
>FAX:(613) 763-7283 Phone:(613) 763-4687 
>My opinions, not BNR's    


Well said my fellow Koppite. I have posted in this newsgroup about five
times, three of those were after the disasterous Euro Championships and in
every one of those I called for Cloughie to be named the England manager.
He has by far the best attitude for the job (together with the talent and
credentials). He would take no crap from press, FA or the players and he 
would turn England into England FC. He will give England this Club like 
atmosphere where the players play for each other and for the manager, and I
think he would be the guy that can bring the absolute best out of Gazza. 
 
You heard it here first!

ENGLAND v GREECE in the world cup final.



Yannis Verikokakis
Applications Programmer
University College London
Computer Centre.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Subject: Re: Aussie Soccer - Change of Luck ??
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:21:16 GMT

timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield) writes:

>A couple of quick points on this. Firstly, the push to include Australia in
>the Asian Confederation is a welcome move that is long overdue. Australia is
>well and truly up to the standard of, if not better than, a large portion of
>the countries in the Asian group - Australia's inclusion would, I feel, benefit
>both Australia and Asia. My own theory for this one is that both Australia AND
>New Zealand, clearly Oceania's top 2 sides, should be included in the Asia
>group playoffs which would ultimately contribute 2 (is this number correct ?)
>of the representatives at the World Cup finals.

The number is correct. Recent results of Asian teams in the World Cup suggests
that Australia will have a good chance to take one of the Asian spots.
The problem with including Oceania in Asia is where to put Taiwan. China
has previously prevented Taiwan from participating in Asia, and if New
Zeeland/Australia leaves Oceania to join Asia we'll have a worthless group
on our hands. The other teams could also join Asia (a sensible move), but
that leaves Taiwan in an Israel-like situation.

If just politics could be keept seperated from football.
-- 
Jesper Lauridsen       | Liverpool FC - 18xChampions, 5xCup Winner,
rorschak@daimi.aau.dk  |                4xEC1 and 2xEC3 Winner
               The Manchester United of 2015?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: atp3@muddnext10.cc.columbia.edu (Alexander T Patrick)
Subject: German line-up
Keywords: line up
Reply-To: Anyone
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:40:52 GMT


Does anyone know German line-up against Austria recently?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: It's COMPETITION time!
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:38:15 GMT

In view of the fact that our good friend DENISE has postally consumated her
relationship with Mr. Souness, he leaving her with a signed snap of his good(!)
self methinks the time is right for a little contest.  In not more than 100
words I challenge you, the fine subscribers to r.s.s., to imagine what was the
content of the letter sent to Anfield by our Australian chum.  Send them to me,
I shall judge them and post the winners in the coming weeks.

The prizes will be :

(i)	Don't ask me how, but a signed portrait of DENISE.
(ii)	7 copies of the Super Ally video, courtesy of Vatican Video - a branch
	opening up near you real soon! For some reason they couldn't sell them.
(iii)	100 signed pictures of Mr. Souness.

To start I shall offer this suggestion,

Dear MY BELOVED,

Sparta Moscow are S***!  Wimbledon are S***!  SUCK S*** Chesterfield.  I think
I love you, YOU RULE ALL MANAGERS, LIVERPOOL RULE ALL TEAMS, can I have a S***
(sorry got carried away) signed picture of you, MY BELOVED, please.  Never mind
that LIVERPOOL are heading for the 2nd Division, YOU ARE MY HERO - European
Cups don't matter, nothing matters except YOU MY BELOVED, YOU RULE ALL MANAGERS
etc. etc. etc. etc.

Best Wishes to you MY HERO,

DENISE



OK folks get posting!



Dan
CBA40@UK.AC.STRATH.VAXA



ps DENISE, please don't send flames, send just a signed portrait!
From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: AS Monaco - USA
Date: 20 Nov 1992 00:18:10 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

                          In Monaco (15,162):

         AS Monaco                 1:0                  USA
           Christian Perez   15'

Unfortunately, this was the wrong Perez (i.e., not Hugo). I don't
know too much about the match. However, this was apparently not
one of the team's sterile defensive-oriented performances. The US
had at least three strong scoring attempts, two of which had the
misfortune of hitting the post. John Harkes (Sheffield Wednesday)
hit the post in the 44th, and Roy Wegerle (Blackburn Rovers) hit
the post in the 61st, as well as being robbed by keeper
Angele Hugues in the 67th.

Neither team had its full complement of "first-teamers." Monaco
was missing both Jrgen Klinsmann (with the German national team)
and Rui Barros (injured). As for the US, apparently neither Tom
Dooley (Kaiserslautern), Eric Wynalda (Saarbrcken), nor Tab
Ramos (Real Betis) were released by their clubs.

If anyone has the lineups, I would appreciate seeing them.

Chris

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