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From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Does OS/2 have auto minimize?
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:56:33 GMT

Bert Moshier (bgm@cray.com) wrote:
> >
> 
> I agree.  This was a nice feature in OS/2 1.3.  I had many program groups
> (folders) on my system automatically minimize.  Several groups/folders did
> not minimize automatically.  I set it based upon my epxected usage.
> 

It is probably the only redeeming feature of the Apple Macintosh. It allows
you to hold the option key while opening something and the folder will
automatically close. It is a great feature. I wish OS/2 had  it - with an
option to specify minimise or close. I might want to make it different for
different windows !!!

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: shiva@well.sf.ca.us (Kenneth Porter)
Subject: Touch screens and 1-button mice
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:35:17 GMT

Can someone suggest a good button mapping for use with a touch screen
(which behaves similarly to a one-button mouse)? I'm evaluating the
Elographics IntelliTouch for an industrial keyboard-less environment.

Ken
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Subject: Re: Registering OS/2
Reply-To: ghenniga@NMSU.Edu
Organization: New Mexico State University - Electromagnetics Group
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:43:09 GMT


>I telephoned in today to register my copy of OS/2 which I bought at the 
>PC'92 show in Melbourne, Australia (yes, you can register by calling a
>number in the registration card), to my surprise, the lady did not even
>ask for any serial number of the copy I have. All she asked for is my 
>initial and surname, address, where did I purchase it from, and in what
>PC I am running it in.
>So, my question is how do they even know that I have a real copy with me?

If the past is any indication the registration does little for you. In my
case I had a registered copy of OS/2 1.3 and what IBM does is send you a
form telling you that the upgrade is available and to receive it send
in a "Proof of License" card that they distribute with their software.

Gary Hennigan
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cro@socrates.ed.asu.edu (C. R. Oldham)
Subject: Re: Standard Computer (and os/2)
Organization: North Central Association, Commission on Schools
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:33:54 GMT

In comp.os.os2.misc you write:

>I am trying to decide if I should buy this system for use with OS/2 2.0:

>  Standard Computers - Windows Workstation Plus

AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

This machine does NOT work with OS/2--no matter how much Standard
tells you it will, they are LYING!  I bought two (count 'em, 2 (two))
of them (identical configuration, BTW) from this manufacturer.  The
first had a bad hard drive, the second installed OS/2 fine.  It would
run for two or three minutes, then die with unpredictable Traps--never
the same trap.  Sometimes it would just hang, sometimes the Trap
message would print partially--or not at all.  I went 'round and
'round with Tech support.  I even swapped the machines and installed
the good HD in the chassis that had the bad one and I got the same
response.  I installed an 80Mb HD from my previous '386 successively
in both machines and got the same response. Grr.  I literally played
with the machine for TWO WEEKS, trying everything I knew to fix it
(interrupt conflicts, memory tests, bios upgrades, different hard
drives, swapping cards, disabling features--you name it), and I never
got a better response out of either machine.

Tech support wouldn't return my calls--they would promise replacement
hardware that wouldn't get shipped, and on and on.  Then, when I tried
to return the machines I had to file a dispute with my credit card
company because Standard refused to credit my Visa until they had
received the equipment. That's OK, but I put a UPS trace on the
equipment and found that Standard had received it 2 days after I had
shipped it, but nobody knew anything about my return shipment until I
called the **VICE PRESIDENT** of the company and had him track the
stuff down.  It was twenty days until they credited my card, and I had
been promised that credits are always issued within 7 days after
receipt of the merchandise.  They even lied to me and said they had
received the shipment on July 27 when I had proof of receipt in my
hands from UPS that said they had received it on the 23rd.

All in all--just say NO.

I have had good experience with CompuDyne--you have to be a little
patient though--they have grown tenfold and are having a few growth
pains.  I have a 486-33 with 16Mb, Tseng 4000 based card and CTX
monitor (don't know who really makes that, but it sure is clear.)
It's FAST.

I have no connection with either company other than as a dis-satisfied
and satisfied customer, respectively.

Charles R. (C. R.) Oldham | North Central Association, Commission on Schools
cro@socrates.ed.asu.edu or| Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ 85287-3011
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mawillia@eos.ncsu.edu (MICAH ANTHONY WILLIAMS)
Subject: HELP INSTALLING TE/2 v.1.20 
Originator: mawillia@c00477-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: mawillia@eos.ncsu.edu (MICAH ANTHONY WILLIAMS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:20:40 GMT




	Hello.  I have the latest version of  the TE/2 terminal emulator
for OS/2, and I'm having trouble getting it to recognize my COM 2 Port.  I
know that the Port is ok, because I can run Telemate in it, so I'm sure
it has to do with one of TE/2's configuration files.  By the way, I'm
not using a modem, but instead a direct serial connection via a null
modem cable, at 9600 baud.  Could any of you help.  My Configuartion:

386sx-20
8 Meg RAM
115MB Hard Disk
Trident 8900 Card - (Using 800x600x256 drivers)

Note: I have copied the commpak2.dll file into my /os2/dll directory, which
      is in my LIBPATH= in the os/2 config.sys.
Thanks.


                                                Micah A. Williams
                                                North Carolina State University
                                                Computer Engineering
                                                mawillia@eos.ncsu.edu
                                                willi-ma@aza.csc.ncsu.edu
                                                vega@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu


                "STAYING IN TOUCH WITH THE WILLIAMS TRADITION"
-- 
                                                Micah A. Williams
                                                North Carolina State University
                                                Computer Engineering
                                                mawillia@eos.ncsu.edu
                                                willi-ma@aza.csc.ncsu.edu
                                                vega@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu


                "STAYING IN TOUCH WITH THE WILLIAMS TRADITION"
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HELP: Where OS/2 2.0 CSD?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 18:34:53 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <Bu0AJI.23s@news.cso.uiuc.edu> btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron "Bohr" Faber) writes:
>Your going to pay for something that fixes a program you already bought?

Why not? After all, that's what anyone who upgraded from Windows 3.0 to 3.1
did...

...although I would expect that the CSD will, as reported here numerous times,
be available for just a media charge.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
 "Keep in mind that Amateur Radio As We Know It Today will cease to exist
            at midnight tonight." -- Dave Newkirk, WJ1Z
From: jbthiel@ogicse.ogi.edu (John B. Thiel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Priorities in OS/2 2.0
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:24:10 GMT
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

In article <1992Aug31.155618.3236@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.172350.1672@nntp.hut.fi> t36253b@saha.hut.fi (Aali-Petri Alikoski) writes:
>>How can I change a running program's priority on-the-fly ?
>>Yes, I have read the manual conserning pstat-command, but I found
>>nothing helpful.
>
>The SETPRI program, available via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu,
>should do the trick for you.
>


No, this program, like NICE10, can only launch a new program with
a specified priority.

I also ask how to change the priority of an already running program.

PSPM could formerly do this, but the version for 1.x does not work on
os/2 2.0. Rumors of a 2.0-compatible release of this utility abound.
If anyone has it, please send it to an archive site.


On a related note, is there a way to disable the
"foreground boost" without turning off dynamic priority variation
altogether (ie. keeping the "i/o boost" and the "starvation boost")?


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Memory Problems
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:10:54 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Aug25.135518.9718@wubios.wustl.edu> sean@wubios.wustl.edu (Sean Dyer) writes:
>
> they suggested that the problem was bad RAM, specifically
> they suspected that my machine contained 2 different memory chip speeds.  I
> investigated and found that the machine contained 5 Meg of 100ns memory and 8
> Meg of 80ns memory.  The machine came with 1 Meg of 100ns RAM on the
> motherboard, so it's safe to assume that it operates well with 100ns chips.  I
> called IBM back and told them what  the situation was and they confirmed that
> mixing chips, even mixing faster than spec chips, would cause problems for
> OS/2.  I reported the situation to the folks I work for and there was some
> skepticism about the diagnosis since all chips were at least as fast as the
> machine specifications.  My question is: Has anyone had a similar experience
> or is there anyone who knows more than I do about DRAM circuits that could
> give a plausible explanation either way?

The rule of thumb imparted to me by people I know who have used or serviced
*thousands* of PC's is: 
 
DON'T mix RAM speeds.

If possible, get RAM made by one manufactuer.
 
This *reduces* the problem that can arise. It is another variable in the
design soup that modern clones are.
 
I couldn't boot OS/2 on the 486/25 at work until I changed from 4x80ns and
4x70ns to 8x80ns simms. After that? No problem.
 
Steve
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Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |  September 19, 1992, then you 
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**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       |  are.....can I live with YOU?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: solomon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Robert F. Solomon)
Subject: Re: Memory Problems
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: No Organization, Only Random Events
Date: 25 Aug 1992 14:37 EST  

In article <1992Aug25.135518.9718@wubios.wustl.edu>, sean@wubios.wustl.edu (Sean Dyer) writes...
>I've been having trouble with OS/2 crashing on my Compaq Deskpro 386-20,
>spitting out its register contents and telling me to contact IBM.  I did
>contact them and they suggested that the problem was bad RAM, specifically
>they suspected that my machine contained 2 different memory chip speeds.  

[Stuff deleted}
  I
>called IBM back and told them what  the situation was and they confirmed that
>mixing chips, even mixing faster than spec chips, would cause problems for
>OS/2.  

[More stuff deleted}

  My question is: Has anyone had a similar experience
>or is there anyone who knows more than I do about DRAM circuits that could
>give a plausible explanation either way?
> 
>Thanks in advance.
> 
>-Sean Dyer
>-Division of Biostatistics
>-Washington University, St. Louis, MO 63130
> 
	When I tried to install OS/2 on my 386/33 I got the infamous 
TRAP000 problem. IBM said it was a hardware problem and probably was a 
result of mismatched memory speeds.

	My first 4 Meg was 70 nanosecond and the second 4 Meg was 80 
nanosecond. I was able to swap the 80 nanosecond simms for 70's. OS/2 
installed okay and ran okay (I think). i still have problems with the video 
driver, but this is unrelated.

	RAM speed seems to be critical.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Win3.1 support *better* than MS!
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:45:05 GMT

Steve Withers writes:

> At an IBM OS/2 seminar this evening, one of the presenters told us that the
> news in IBM's internal forums today was that the Win3.1 support in the CSD is
> going to also include support for those Win3.x programs that will not run
> under Win3.1.......

You know, every once in a while, I'd really like to find out exactly why it
is that one company is able to do something that another company can't.  This
is a case in point.  If IBM is able to make OS/2 run Windows 3.0 applications
that Windows 3.1 can't run, why or how are they able to do it?  Does IBM
know something that Microsoft doesn't?  Or does Microsoft know something
that IBM doesn't?  Will OS/2 users run into hidden gotchas that Microsoft
already knows about, which might be why they designed Windows 3.1 to be
incompatible with some Windows 3.0 applications?  Or has IBM found a clever
solution to a problem that Microsoft couldn't solve?

Another case in point is memory boards for PS/2s.  IBM says that the system
maximum memory for a Model 70-A21 is 16 Mbytes, yet there is a large number
of third party vendors who will sell Microchannel memory boards that support
more than 16 Mbytes on this model.  How do they do it?  Do they know something
IBM doesn't know?  Or does IBM know something that the third party vendors
don't know, like some sort of hidden gotcha when dealing with more than
16 Mbytes on such a machine?  I've asked a local IBMer why these third party
folks are able to provide more than 16 Mbytes, whereas IBM says 16 Mbytes is
the maximum, but I didn't get an answer.  Why is it so hard to get a straight
answer to a simple question?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: 880506s@dragon.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner)
Subject: Re: Telemate screensaver unpredictable
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:32:45 GMT

rpeou@athena.mit.edu (Rith   Peou) writes:

>Hello.  I was wondering if I missed something with the Telemate screensaver;
>the screensaver activates at random times (at least to me), even when I'm
>typing something the screensaver would activate.  Is there a way to
>remedy this?  Telemate works perfectly otherwise and the screensaver problem
>doesn't happen under plain DOS.

	This problem with Telemate under OS/2 appears to be a timing related
issue and can easily be corrected by setting Screen Saver value to zero under
the Options -> General menu.  


-- 

-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------------
        James Robie Skinner        |     Jodrey School of Computer Science        James.Skinner@dragon.acadiau.ca  |  Acadia University, Wolfville, NS, Canada
-----------------------------------+--------------------------------------------
Organization: European Academic Research Network (EARN)
Date: Thursday, 27 Aug 1992 10:17:11 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 32bit graphics engine, etc...
 <1992Aug24.181930.21825@cco.caltech.edu>
 <1992Aug25.115314.20542@actrix.gen.nz> <1992Aug26.192600.2131@njitgw.njit.edu>

I think the problem with the speed of our video displays is partially
due to the slowness of the cards, especially at SVGA modes. I read some
VGA specs, and you have to do a tremendous amount of tinkering (lost of
VGA registers to fiddle with..) just to draw something on the screen.
Add the wonderful speed of the ISA bus on top of it, and you have a
crawling combination..  -turgut
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: ckincy@mcs213c.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:03:16 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <liuyu.715296024@kramden> liuyu@kramden.nyu.edu (Liuyu) writes:
>
>You ARE getting rediculous. Why don't you go back and reread my posts?
>You missed my point a mile away.
>Windows and Geoworks are also OS's (sort of). They also have device
>independant interface. But do they expect hardware vendors (IBM and Herc) to
>write "standard" drivers iike VGA and Hercules drivers?? I'm not talking about 
>proprietary cards.

Since when is Hurcules a standard?  Did Hurcules get together with
selected industry people and agree on an interface?  No.  Did they
develop the technology completely on their own?  No.  They
hacked CGA.

Just because a technology is popular and is cloned by many manu-
facturers do not make it a standard.  ET4000 is popular and made
by many manufacturers.  Does that make it a standard?  No.

Also, VGA is IBM's technology.  They developed it.  That's why they
wrote the driver for it.  Plus the fact that it is a standard.  Everyone
does VGA the same way.  

SVGA is a different story.  IBM didn't develop it, and it is chaotic.

>Again you are talking about propritary hardware ET4000.

ET4000 is not very proprietary, since not only Tseng makes cards 
with it, but so does Diamond, Orchid, Trident, etc.  If ET4000
is proprietary, so is the i486.

>So do other OS's and applications like Windows and Geoworks. 
>You are drifting away from my point. 

Now it's your assertion.  Prove that Microsoft wrote a Herc driver.


>Does Microsoft expect IBM to write VGA drivers for Windows? Does Geoworks
>expect IBM to write VGA drivers for its software? Does any other OS's expect
>IBM to write VGA drivers? VGA and Herc are standards. All the information 
	                                  ^^^^
I dispute this.  WHat qualifies Herc as a standard?  An open system
is *not* a standard.

>about VGA and Hercules are available.
>You write YOUR own standard VGA & Herc drivers! What make you think a
>OS from IBM is so special that they don't have to write "standard" drivers? They
>wrote for their own standards but not competitor's.

Perfectly within their rights to do so.

>If you don't consider Hercules a standard, I give up.

Herc is *ancient* technology compared to VGA.  Do you expect that we
have a CGA driver, too?

>And I agree there is no standard SVGA hardware. So companies write their own
>SVGA drivers as they should.
>If you still don't get the point, here it is again.
>Like many other software companies, IBM should have written drivers for ALL
>"STANDARD" (VGA,EGA,CGA, and Herc) video cards. But they only chose their 
>"standard". Enough said!

And one more thing.  You don't realize what an undertaking a device
driver is.  It requires **intimate** knowledge of the hardware.
IBM doesn't stand to make money writing Herc drivers.  Herc clone 
vendors do, because if OS/2 sells, they will be losing markets.  
You can't criticize IBM for this type of thinking, because everyone
does it.  (Yes, even Microsoft!!)

cpk
From: bewhite@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (MacroMan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Does OS/2 have auto minimize?
Date: 31 Aug 92 13:00:17 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu


  I was just thinking how nice it would be if you could set up the
OS/2 WPS so that if you open an object in a folder, the folder
closes, or at least minimizes automatically.  It seems to me this
would make the desktop much more efficient.  I find myself 
constanly opening folders, double clicking on a program, then 
having to click on the folder again (to bring it to the front)
and finally double clicking on the upper left button to close.
It would be much easier if the folder closed itself.  Is there
a way to do this?  If not, why the <bleep> not?
-- 
  Bruce White(bewhite@matt.ksu.ksu.edu)
  "I live like I type - Fast, and with a lot of mistakes"
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2's lack of decent SVGA support (Re: OS/2 Drivers for Diamond)
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:20:42 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1822@vall.dsv.su.se> harald@vall.dsv.su.se (Harald Fragner) writes:
> usdgog@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Greg Granger) writes:
> : 
> : I a bit p*ssed, after all in IBM's docs it clearly states that os\2
> : works with Tseng based video cards.  THIS IS NOT TRUE.  It doesn't work
> : with ET3000 based cards (well) and a seperate patch is required to get
> : it to work with ET4000 based cards.  This certainly suggests that they
> : did not testing on this type of card.  Someone, decided that there were
> : a lot to Tseng based cards out there so ... they 'claimed' it would
> : work.  Normal people call this a lie, car salesmen call it a deal and
> : corporations consider this SOP (Standard Operating Procedure).
> 
> Well I've used two Tseng cards and never had any problems with any verison
> of OS/2. One ET-3000 card in VGA mode (no SVGA drivers for ET-3000) and
> ET-4000 in VGA and SVGA modes. Maybe I'm lucky because I had original
> Tseng cards and not some clone manufacturer who bought the chips and
> f*cked up compatibility.
> 
> /Harald
> 

The TSENGFIX.ZIP readme says that it is only a problem with Tseng cards latter
than a certain batch number.........
 
Is that the point at which Tseng no longer implemented standard VGA with 100%
compatibility? Trident cards work just fine as do Realtek and many
others........

It is Tseng's problem.
 
Steve
 
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Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |  September 19, 1992, then you 
withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            |  must like things the way they 
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       |  are.....can I live with YOU?
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From: mo@sdf.lonestar.org (Mohit Goyal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: ?'s about IBM's OS/2 software
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:19:35 GMT
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access

Hello.

I remember hearing a few months back that IBM was going to make public
all the internal IBM-use only OS/2 programs that employees and such
have written over the years.

I think people said their were over 200 programs.


What ever happened to this?  Did IBM say no go?  Are they out and I'm just
blind?

Thanks.