HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: paul@lsl.co.uk (Paul Hardy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VFE file editor
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:46:49 GMT
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <1992Aug20.131008.2321@lsl.co.uk>, I wrote:
> We have a program called VFE (Vax File Editor ?) which we got from DECUS tapes
> back in the early 1980s. It is a valuable tool for looking at the insides of a
> file at the block level in hex, ascii, etc. It also has commands for changing
> blocks and writing them back.
> 
> [description of problem removed]
> 
> Does anyone elso out there know how to drive this program and can help preserve
> my sanity by telling me the magic incantation ?
> 

Thanks to those who replied direct to me, but the important part was that
the VFE program I have is the 1984 version. Rod Eldridge kindly sent me a new
version which I will build shortly.

> Out of interest, we have tried various editors on the file and they all gave up
> in various ways (usually after an hour or two) :
> 	EDT	Work file size error
> 	EMACS	memory error (limit is 16MB).
> 	TPU	access violation !
> 	VI	core dump
> 
> I'm about to put on my wellies and go hunting for my TECO manual to try that!

However, the immediate rush is off, because TECO worked !

Thanks again to those who replied.
Paul
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CB4 4FY, England. Tel (+44) 223 420414; Fax (+44) 223 420044.
Email: paul@lsl.co.uk via JANET, or VAX PSImail DTE 234222300203::PAUL.
From: CMATT@OCVAXA.CC.OBERLIN.EDU (Matt Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Reading non-ODS-2 CD's from VMS
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


  I remember seeing out here someone mention a little utility that would
let me read non ODS_2 CD's from VMS on an infoserver. It was something
like F11CD but I don't remember where he said it was or how to get it
or how to use it.

Matt Gilbert
Oberlin College
From: rick@lancc.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Script Language for VMS
Date: 22 Aug 92 17:41:57 EST
Organization: LANcc, Louisville KY

I'm looking for some sort of script language I can use under VMS.  I need be
able to connect to either a modem or a LAT service, issue some commands on
both systems, then possibly transfer some files.

A version of kermit similar to MS-DOS Kermit would be wonderful with its script
language, but I have been unable to find one for VMS.

Has anybody seen such a program?

Thanks,
Rick
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From: mores@eavax.sanders.lockheed.com (David C. Mores)
Subject: Re: Problem tracking software wanted
Keywords: Helpdesk
Reply-To: mores@eavax.sanders.lockheed.com (David C. Mores)
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:58:44 GMT


--
Checkout Target->Hotline.  Introduction from the manual:

"Target->Hotline is a user tailorable problem tracking system that
is designed to help you streamline the entry, assignment, and resolution of
customer (or user) problems.  Hotline is specifically desinged to give you the
ability to tailor its screens, menues, and functions so that they meet the
precise needs of your organization."

Target Systems Corporation can be contacted at 508-460-9206.

My interest is as a satisfied customer.
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David C. Mores            Principal Systems Specialist             Keep it short
Lockheed Sanders, Inc.    Nashua, NH                               and sweet.
Internet E-mail: mores@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com                 do da do da
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"Sometimes I think that the surest sign that intellegent life exists elsewhere
in the universe is that none of it has tried to contact us." -Calvin
From: gezelter@rlgsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: SHOW PROCESS SWAPPER
Date: 23 Aug 92 11:58:44 GMT
Organization: Robert Gezelter Software Consultant, Flushing, NY

In article <1992Aug23.031328.12019@DIALix.oz.au>, dent@DIALix.oz.au (Andrew Dent) writes:
> SHOW PROCESS processName will only work if you are in the same UIC group
> as the process. The error message is HIGHLY misleading as it says that
> that the process doesn't exist.
> 
> SHOW PROCESS/ID= always works.
> 
> Andy Dent (A.D. Software - Mac & VAX programming)
> 94 Bermuda Dve, BALLAJURA  Western Australia  6066
> Phone/Fax: 09 249 2719 (local)  +619 249 2719 (International)
>        Internet: dent@DIALix.oz.au    Compuserve: 100033,3241
> 
-- 
Andy,
 
What it means is "Process<group>ProcessName" doesn't exist. I 
haven't looked at the documentation for that error message 
recently, so I don't remember whether the text mentions the fact 
that process names are implicitly qualified by group.
 
- Bob
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From: Sanyee_Tang@mindlink.bc.ca (Sanyee Tang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Lock Utility
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:53:31 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada


    Does any one has a lock utility that can tell me who (process) holds a lock
on a file (include all sublocks on records)?

    I would like to have the source code, preferred in a high-level language,
but macro is OK.  Thanks in advance.

--
Sanyee Tang
BC Research
Vancouver, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: uugblum@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (VMScluster Administrator)
Subject: PSM$REPLACE with VAXC
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 19 Aug 1992 10:51 EST  

Does anyone have an example of how to use the PSM$REPLACE routine from VAX C?

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Greg Blumers				Sverdrup Technology, Inc.
VAXcluster Administrator		c/o NASA Lewis Research Center
(216)433-6777				Mail Stop 142-2
					21000 Brookpark Road
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From: murrayl@mayo.edu (Linda J. Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Batch Scheduler
Keywords: Scheduler
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:03:00 GMT
Reply-To: murrayl@mayo.edu
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department - Mosaic Group
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Does anyone where I can obtain a VMS Batch Job scheduler on the Internet?  
I have been searching with Archie without luck (wrong key words).  Thanks
in advance...
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: snyder@ricks.enet.dec.com (Wilson Snyder)
Subject: VMS version of Unix TAR
Reply-To: snyder@ricks.enet.dec.com (Wilson Snyder)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:28:35 GMT


Does anyone have a version of TAR running for VMS (5.5)?  I tried the GNU Tar
distribution and got rid of most of the errors, but got stopped at:

/*
 * FIXME: On other systems there is no standard place for the header file
 * for the portable directory access routines.  Change the #include line
 * below to bring it in from wherever it is.
 */
#include "ndir.h"


Since there is no such <ndir> file, or anything like it.  Even with this fixed,
I am willing to bet that GNU tar would still have problems as it isn't intended
for VMS.

SO, does anyone have source/exec for a version of tar?

Thanks
From: gomide@FPSP.FAPESP.BR
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: BEEP. Absent until Aug 24.
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:50:54 GMT
Reply-To: gomide@fapq.fapesp.br
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:56 BSC (-0300 C)

Please send email to DEMI@BRFAPESP.BITNET or VILSON@BRFAPESP.BITNET
for urgent matters.
From: jasper@vax.path.ox.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: SET TRANSPORT command in VMS MAIL
Date: 16 Aug 92 00:16:39 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Molecular Biology Data Centre
Nntp-Posting-User: jasper

In article <01GNLUGHYFR60000J3@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU>, DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing) writes:
> Stephen F. Day, sday@ariel.UNM.EDU, writes:
> 
>>We are using PMDF here at UNM, and so I tried setting:
>>
>>MAIL> SET TRANSPORT IN%
>>MAIL> SEND
>>To:     sday@lacerta
>>%MAIL-E-USERSPEC, invalid user specification '@LACERTA'
>>
>>What am I doing wrong?
> 
> Try sending to "SDAY@LACERTA" -- you still need to enclose the address 
> in quotes.  

Well, using MX% as the transport, if I send to 'jasper' (no quotes) then it
routes through MX and returns to me with a fully addressed MX%"...." message;
if I send to "jasper" with quotes it returns to the mail prompt without
sending anything, if I send to jrees@vax.ox.ac.uk it gives the 'invalid user
spec' error, if I send to "jrees@vax.ox.ac.uk" it returns to a mail prompt. 

I guess one reason it's undocumented is that it doesn't work right now :(
At least for VMS 5.4-3, MX 3.1C.

Or is there something else that we are doing wrong?

Jasper Rees
Sir William Dunn School of Pathology
Oxford University
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Intersolve PVC Information wanted
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:30:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA/JSC

Does anyone have any information on a configuration management tool called
Intersolve PVC? I am told that it is a product that runs on a Vax and supports
configuration management and "builds". Its been available for  few years now.
any info would be appreciated.

John R. Cobarruvias
NASA/JSC
713-483-9357
From: ted@barrister (Ted Garvin @ UCS/OU)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VAX C File exclusivity problem, HELP!
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:30:00 GMT
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I've perused the VAX C manual, and peered into the RMS manuals (I admit that I
have no clue as to how to clear RMS buffers in VAX C) and both I and my local
VAX C guru are stumped, so I'm posing this problem to the readers of this
group.  I'd appreciate E-Mail replies, and will summarize to the net, if
appropriate.

The proBackgrfo:  The same program, run by different users, attempts to
fopen(filename, "r+") so as to have exclusive use of a file.  The routine
reads from the file, makes a change, rewinds the file, nulls it, rewinds and
then writes the data back out and then closes it.

The problem:  User 1 gets the file and user 2 gets a message that the file is
in use.  User 2's program then cycles through a sleep(1), fopen(filename,"r+")
loop.  If fopen returns a null, it continues to cycle until some arbitrary
number of iterations has been reached.  Then it informs the user of failure and
offers the chance to repeat the attempt for another round of fopens.  

What actually happens is that user 2 waits forever, even after user 1 closed
the file and exited the program.  User 2's program apparently never actually
checks the file status after receiving one failure.

We're running a Vax with VMS version 5.5, if that info is helpful.  Vax C
version 3.0.

- Ted
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From: zbang@access.digex.com (Carl P. Zwanzig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: Moving from Word-11 to Word Perfect
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:01:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: access.1992Aug20.040124.16190
Organization: The Midnite Group

You can also use DPD's dx output converter, and then a dx to wordperfect
converter.  It's a little clunky, but the price is usually right (last
time I checked, the dx output code was about $1200, and the pc based 
converter to WP was about $250).

The biggest problem is that DPD has been very unwilling to devulge thier
document file format, thus the only people that have it (other than DPD)
are those who have backwards-engineered it.

Of course, this may have changed in the last year and a half since I
looked at it closely.

Good luck,

Carl Zwanzig
zbang@digex.com
From: mcdonald@CMRSD.NRL.NAVY.MIL (Patrick McDonald)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VAX/VMS Pricing - Post Alpha
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:27:22 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Mike McCurdy Says:

> ... prices for VAX hardware and VMS licensing changing in a significantly
> downward direction?

Mike,

     My experience with DEC over the years is that pricing on older 
product lines remains fairly sticky after a new product release.  DEC's
way of strongly encouraging purchases of the new line?

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From: 00mjstum@bsu-ucs.uucp (Matthew J. Stum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Nodename 15 chars??
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:54:43 GMT

This may sound like a stupid question, but why does $GETSYI's SYI$_NODENAME
return up to _15_ characters?  I was under the impression that nodenames
were restricted to 6 characters.

Thanx...
-- 
Matt Stum                    Gwydion ap Myrddin       Ball State University
00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu   Shire of Afonlyn, MK     Muncie, IN  USA
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: kelsey@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Michael Kelsey)
Subject: Re: SET TRANSPORT command in VMS MAIL
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:50:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.011639.1@vax.path.ox.ac.uk> jasper@vax.path.ox.ac.uk  
writes:
> In article <01GNLUGHYFR60000J3@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU>,  
DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing) writes:
> > Stephen F. Day, sday@ariel.UNM.EDU, writes:
> > 
> >>We are using PMDF here at UNM, and so I tried setting:
> >>
> >>MAIL> SET TRANSPORT IN%
> >>MAIL> SEND
> >>To:     sday@lacerta
> >>%MAIL-E-USERSPEC, invalid user specification '@LACERTA'
> >>
> >>What am I doing wrong?
> > 
> > Try sending to "SDAY@LACERTA" -- you still need to enclose the address 
> > in quotes.  
> 
> Well, using MX% as the transport, if I send to 'jasper' (no quotes) then  
it
> routes through MX and returns to me with a fully addressed MX%"...."  
message;
> if I send to "jasper" with quotes it returns to the mail prompt without
> sending anything, if I send to jrees@vax.ox.ac.uk it gives the 'invalid  
user
> spec' error, if I send to "jrees@vax.ox.ac.uk" it returns to a mail  
prompt. 
> 
> I guess one reason it's undocumented is that it doesn't work right now  
:(
> At least for VMS 5.4-3, MX 3.1C.
> 
> Or is there something else that we are doing wrong?
> 
The problem is the '@' character.  Whenever VMS sees an '@' in an unquoted  
string, it interprets what follows to be a filename, and replaces the  
reference with the contents of the file.  This is how you do a  
_distribution_list_ in VMS Mail.  For a third party transport (IN%, MX%,  
etc.), if the address contains an '@' character, you must enclose the  
string in quotes to prevent the '@' from being interpreted by VMS.

						-- Mike Kelsey
						   Caltech Physics
						   kelsey@cithex
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: plante@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Mike Plante)
Subject: Comparing MV3100-90 w/VS4000-90
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:17:26 GMT


Hello,

We were thinking of adding a MicroVAX 3100-90 to our cluster but then suddenly
one of our 3rd party reps recommended we purchase a VAXstation 4000-90 as it was
somewhat less expensive. We want to run about 100 interactive users on the
new box and we don't need any graphics capabilities (just a node on the
cluster and a dumb terminal console). I have the performance spec's on
both systems but they're benchmarked differently. I understand VUP and TPS
ratings, but SPECmarks? How does 33 SPECmarks translate into VUP/TPA's, or
can they be? Apples and oranges? I also understand that both machines serve
somewhat specific purposes, but for the savings in $$, would the VAXstation
perform at least as well in a 200 (VT) user MicroVAX cluster running your
average VMS apps (Datatrieve, FMS, Pathworks, Mail, etc)?

Thanks,

Mike                                                 plante@camosun.bc.ca
From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Clustered Global Section
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:27:42 GMT
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


In article <17320.2A913456@puddle.fidonet.org>,
Ian.Parker@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Ian Parker) writes:
|> 
|>I'm just about to cluster a couple of VAXs.  On one VAX an application 
|>uses global sections to communicate between processes.  After clustering 
|>we want this application to be available across the cluster. 
|> 
|>Is there a problem? 
|> 
|>Yes, I know that you can't share memory across a cluster, but since  
|>global sections are mapped to files (but are all sections mapped to  
|>files?), and assuming that the files are available clusterwide then  
|>will it work? 

No, it will not work.  The problem is getting modifications to the global
section written by one machine to be seen by the other machine.  You can
force the modifications to be written to backing store by calling $UPDSECW,
but the problem then is to force the process on the other machine to read
the new data off disk.  Remember that VMS memory management on that machine
has no idea that the first machine wrote to the file.  If there are pages
from the global section already in the other process's working set, it will
continue to use those pages and will not read them in from the file.  The
only way to reliably force the second machine's process to read from the file
would be to unmap and remap the section, but if you do that, any pages
modified by the second process will be written out to the backing store file,
thereby clobbering the data that process 1 wrote.  You can get this to work,
but it takes a LOT of coordination (via the lock manager) between the two
processes, and the overhead is really bad.  

If the global section has page file backing store (either you specified
SEC$M_PAGFIL on the $CRMPSC call or the image activator created the section
for you, e.g., a shared COMMON in FORTRAN), even the above won't work, since
page file is not shared between nodes in a cluster.

The overhead in all this is horrendous.  You're better off using either a
file of the appropriate size open for shared writes, or network links
(using DECnet or TCP/IP).

--PSW
From: ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Number of users logged on a cluster member
Date: 16 Aug 92 14:47:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> Is there a way to extract the number of users currently logged on a cluster
> member from a DCL script (The number given by a show user command) ?
> I apologize if this is a trivial question, but I was not able to find it among
> the lexicals.

You could try:

$ SYS$GW_IJOBCNT=%X800044C0
$ ijob=f$cvui(0,16,f$fao("!AD",4,SYS$GW_IJOBCNT))
$ write sys$output ijob," Interactive jobs"
$ exit

It will show the number og interactive jobs on the current node.

                                                          Arne

Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK
From: ACSMARTIN@EKU.BITNET ("Bob Martin --> Acsmartin@eku.bitnet")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: .HEX files
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:24:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: EKU.01GNRA2XZEK6000FHJ
Organization: The Internet

Eric,

I have to 'flavors' of the dehex program... both come from and are used
for dehexing C-Kermit & Kermit (vms). I'll be happy to ship 'em to you
source and exe via vmsdump. If you want the things gimme a holler. One
set is written in C and the other in Macro.

I'm gonna delete your original mail, so stick your bitnet address on the
note (assuming that you what the files).
L8r,
Bob Martin -- acsmartin@eku
From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Help with local command for c link
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:32:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: slacvx.1992Aug19.153249.1
Followup-To: comp.os.vms
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <sjs.714254270@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu>, sjs@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Steve J. Schmidhauser) writes:
> I am having problems trying to create a local command so that the c
> linker will use the shared libraries. We used to use a batch link inside
> a captive account. I am trying to give students more access to dcl but
> would like the link command to default to the shared libraries to save
> disk space. This is what I tried to do and the results:
> 
> $ lin*k    :== $LINK/NOMAP 'P1'  , DISK$UTIL:[MACRO]OPTIONS_FILE/OPT
> (from login.com for c students) and this is what happens
> 
> $ link perf4
> %CLI-F-SYNTAX, error parsing 'TRACE'
> -CLI-E-ENTNF, specified entity not found in command tables

    Close, but you can't use the 'P1' in a DCL symbol as you've attempted:
it gets evaluated at symbol definition time.  Not to worry, do the following
in the students' LOGIN.COM:

	$ LIN*K == "@DISK$UTIL:[MACRO]LINK.COM"

Then have LINK.COM include whatever was in OPTIONS_FILE.OPT like so:

LINK.COM:
--------
	$ LINK/NOMAP 'P1',SYS$INPUT:/OPT
	  DISK$UTIL:[SOMEDIR]SOMEIMAGE/SHARE
	  VAXCRTL/SHARE
        $ EXIT

(in which I posited that OPTIONS_FILE.OPT contained the two lines above
without dollar-signs).  Anything you would have put in the .OPT file
can go after the $LINK and before the $EXIT...
	  	
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From: MORRIS@PATRICK-PIMS.AF.MIL ("Jay Morris")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Getting a news feed.
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Ok, VNews is installed and working (I think) but it's getting hungry.  How
do I find a site to feed it?  Please hurry, it's stomach rumblings are getting
annoying.  Thanks!

morris@patrick-pims.af.mil