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From: pgf@cayman.COM (Paul Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: agenda chords anyone?
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:58:44 GMT
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge Ma

pgf@cayman.COM (that's me) writes:
: 
: Could some kind soul who saved the infamous chording layout posting
: please forward it to me?  Thanks...
: 
: paul
: 
: p.s.  don't tell Jonathan.  :-)

Thanks everyone -- I've got a coupla copies now.

paul
-- 
		paul fox, pgf@cayman.com, (617)494-1999
		Cayman Systems, 26 Landsdowne St., Cambridge, MA 02139
From: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Mention of HP95LX AC-adapter requirements + an FAQ proposal...
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:06:05 GMT
Reply-To: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Jul23.031152.12104@unixg.ubc.ca>, george@unixg.ubc.ca
(George chow) writes:

>does not contain any info on the AC adapter. Would anyone who has a later
>edition of the manual with that info please post a summary.

The minimum voltage is 7.8V (AC or DC, either polarity).  The maximum
voltage is 12V.  The nominal voltage is 9V.  The maximum DC current is
175 mA.  The maximum AC (RMS) current is 350 mA.


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Subject: Re: HP95LX AC adapter requirements...
Reply-To: edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:55:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.200432.8320@unixg.ubc.ca>, george@unixg.ubc.ca
(George chow) writes:

> I went thru
>the manual and it doesn't say anything about the voltage and current. 

Try Appendix A; the manual specifies the minimum and maximum voltages
the 95 will accept and the current requirements.  It will accept AC or
DC (either polarity).


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: kanefsky@src.honeywell.com (Steve Kanefsky)
Subject: Re: HP95LX: small font terminal?
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:37:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.154318.20921@usho93.hou281.chevron.com> hwcco@chevron.com (Bill Corea) writes:
>>In article <l70oclINNlfn@news.bbn.com> jjd@BBN.COM (James J 
>Dempsey) writes:
>>Has anyone seen a terminal emulator for the HP95LX which 
>displays more
>>than 16 lines x 40 chars at the same time?
>>
>.......
>>usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP) writes:
>>There is a display shell available on Compuserve, and perhaps, 
>>eddie, that allows display of an 80 x 24 screen (or almost that 
>>much). 
>
>How about a file name? I couldn't find anything in the HP forum on
>Compuserve.


The file name is, I believe, FNTSHL.ZIP.  It's in the HPHAND forum (note
that the 95LX newsgroup has been split into several newsgroups and moved to a 
new forum recently)

Hope this helps,

--
Steve Kanefsky


Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: Sun <--> HP95 (was Re: Reliability of HP95LX?)
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:21:37 GMT

In article <l7ec72INNph1@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> toddb@mr2.Eng.Sun.COM (Todd Bernhard) writes:
>Are you sure your macro used double backslashes?  My macro is below...
>works like a charm...

Not a kermit macro...one of the CHAR "Learn" macros on the 95LX, I thought 
this was clear from the context but I guess not.

Cool kermit macro though...
---Steve
-- 
Stephen Okay  sokay@mitre.org
"Welcome to the Politically Correct States of America. Please turn your mind
in to the nearest oppressed minority pressure group. It will be returned to
you once we've decided what you can think"
From: brian@king.csd.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Typing on the AgendA
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:12:12 GMT

jeremiah@cix.compulink.co.uk (Jonathan Allen) writes:

>> [...]  How fast can you type on the Agenda?

>Well, this isn't an official company statement, but the development
>team have seen people doing 90 wpm.  Takes some doing, I guess, but
>seeing is believing :-)

Can you tell me what the "speed limit" is on the AgendA, based on the
timing constraints of the keyboard?  Is that timing tunable by speed-freak
end users?
-- 
-Brian Smithson
 Motorola Inc., Computer Group, Commercial Systems Division
 2001 Logic Drive, M/S 1-E10, San Jose, CA 95124 USA, (408)369-4104
 brian@ca41.csd.mot.com, {apple | pyramid}!motcsd!brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: 93jay@williams.edu (Jonathan Young)
Subject: Sparcom Mac-HP Conn.Pack?
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:56:24 GMT

A while back there was a request for beta testers of a HP/Mac connectivity pack
by Sparcom. I repsonded and received an email notification that I would be 
emailed a binhex of the product as soon as I replied. I replied and have not
heard anything for several weeks... Has anyone received the beta yet? 
Unfortunately I seem to have lost the email address for contact.


Jonathan Young
Williams College Astronomy Dept.
From: raan@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Raan Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: 95-to-unix backup tool package
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:12:18 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA


PS -- I'll also be posting this package to various ftp sites, as soon as I
find out how to do that (Everett, where are you?  You go home too early.)

Raan
From: ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Typing on the AgendA
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:38:53 GMT
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto


>Well, this isn't an official company statement, but the development
>team have seen people doing 90 wpm.  Takes some doing, I guess, but
>seeing is believing :-)

That sounds quite impressive.  I wonder, how long has this person(s) been
typing on the Microwriter?

Edgar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: jeremiah@cix.compulink.co.uk (Jonathan Allen)
Subject: Re: Typing on the AgendA
Reply-To: jeremiah@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:09:27 +0000

In: <18389@glyph.cme.nist.gov> Ken Manheimer wrote:
> I appreciate your input, Jonathan, and hope you continue to post
> here.  I do think it's a good idea for you to establish in each
> posting, eg in a signature or heading tag, that you are affiliated
> with the company.

Gosh - blush - thankyou for the encouragement, Ken.  Is
this better...

Jonathan
... working with Microwriter Systems plc
-----------------------------------------------
Eur Ing Jonathan Allen CEng BSc MIEE MBCS
Barum Computer Consultants
4 Ashleigh Road, Barnstaple, Devon, England
Voice: +44 271 79023   Fax:   +44 271 24183
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: jeremiah@cix.compulink.co.uk (Jonathan Allen)
Subject: Typing on the AgendA (was Typing on chord keyboards)
Reply-To: jeremiah@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:56:46 +0000

In: <6863@motcsd.csd.mot.com> Brian Smithson said:
> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>
> > This sure is news to me. I find myself doing more and more text
> > pounding on my 95 as time goes by. The keyboard does require
> > adaptation, but far less than a chord keyboard would [...]
>
> I found the Microwriter chord keyboard to be surprisingly easy to
> learn.  A half hour and you have the alphabet.  A couple of days
> and you're typing as fast as you can handwrite.  Seriously, it's
> quite easy.  I think you'll also find that it is *much* more
> comfortable to chord than to try to cram your fingers into a tiny
> QWERTY layout.

This is what most of the regular AgendA/Microwriter users find.
As I have said before, the basic alphabet took me about 20 minutes,
and from then on it is only practive to build up speed.  We have
hundreds of testimonial letters all along these lines:

   "I didn't take your claims seriously until I tried it ..."

Now, if we were just selling some of those diet schemes :-)

Jonathan
From: thomasb@ucs.indiana.edu (Barry Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: mac calendar ->palmtop?
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:10:38 GMT
Organization: Indiana University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0

Just received the following note from my boss:

"Also, (her boss) talked with me about his desire to have a 
better way to update his schedule using
technology.  His goal would be to have a pocket size electronic
calendar."

I know _NOTHING_ about pocket devices and what is possible.  We are a Mac
shop, using Now-Up-To-Date calendar software.  This guy has a person who
does nothing but handle his calendar, so we need some sort of interface. 
I would really appreciate any ideas/thoughts/suggestions this group might
have.

Thanks in advance,

Barry Thomas
thomasb@ucs.indiana.edu
Indiana University

Opinions expressed our my own and do not represent the University
From: jamison@hobbes.Corp.Sun.COM (& Gray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Academy/AgendA: users' comments? USA sources?
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:49:52
Organization: Fun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes

Well, I called NewQuest and asked for their information packet
on the Academy; unfortunately, they seem much more interested
in selling the Agenda personal organizer software for PC's,
and the Frankin Quest Inc. paper-based organizer system
that it complements.  The package I recieved is much more
oriented towards the latter, and even included a demo copy
of Agenda; only a single two-sided glossy sheet describes
the Academy palmtop, apparently the same flyer that someone
from HP typed in here a while back.

Since I've never heard of this unit outside of this newsgroup,
I'd be interested in hearing more feedback from
actual users.  The particular questions I have are:

1) Microwriting: how long did it take you to get comfortable
   with doing it?  How fast can you type now?  I'd be particularly
   interested in informed speed comparisons with conventional
   QWERTY palmtops & organizers, as well as with full-size
   or laptop QWERTY keyboards.

2) Can you comfortably Microwrite without looking?  Can you do
   it with the unit in places other than a tabletop, such as
   in your lap or on the car seat next to you?  (easier in US
   than UK, I suppose).

3) How useful are the database/organizer functions?  The calculator?
   Is the small screen a major drawback?  Again, informed comparisons 
   to other palmtops & organizers would be great.

4) How easy is it to transfer files to a PC?  (I was pleased
   to note that the unit comes with the serial cable and transfer
   software included)

Also, a question for anybody -- are there any other US sources
for this unit, either as the original AgendA or the relabeled
Academy?  NewQuest's letter quotes a list price of $599 for Academy,
which is way too high for me, but the person on the phone said
they would only be selling it directly (contrary to the glossy
flyer, which claims it'll be in several store chains).  
Has anybody in the US successfully ordered it from the UK?
If so, what was your final cost, w/ shipping, etc.?

Thanks in advance for any responses; I think some real experiences
would be a welcome relief from all this patent debate ;-).

				-- Jamie Gray

--
Jamie Gray, jamison@Eng.sun.COM        "I am the milkman of human kindness;
Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA     I will leave you an extra pint"
From: raan@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Raan Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Freemacs 1.6a for the 95
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:29:04 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA


The first 5 responses to this note are parts 1 thru 5 of a sharfile 
containing an HP95LX customized version of Freemacs 1.6a.  To reconstruct
the sharfile:

  remove all lines up thru the start cutline in each part
  remove all lines from the end cutline to the end of each part
  recombine the parts in order

Follow the standard sharfile unpacking instructions.  Read the readme
file for installation comments.


Freemacs is a PC based emacs with a GNU-like user interface.  It is fully
extensible -- meaning the user can add/delete/modify editor commands.

This package is distributed on an as-is basis and is intended as an 
accessory to the original Freemacs distribution.  All rights and claims
by Russell Nelson are binding and applicable to this package as well as
the original Freemacs.  Neither Hewlett/Packard, Raan Young, or Russell
Nelson will provide any support for this package.  Use at your own risk.

This collection of files modifies the original Freemacs 1.6a to run nicely
on the HP95LX.  To get Freemacs in all its glory, you need to obtain the
original package and apply these modifications.  If you want to use Freemacs
on the 95 and occupy as little RAM as possible, this package is sufficent.
The small version has had these features stripped out -- history, lisp,
abbrev, asm, dired, and most help. 

All modified portions of the Freemacs source are also included in this
package.  To obtain the full source you will need to go to an original
Freemacs distribution.

The documents file contains all Freemacs documentation in a form suitable
for printing to a laserjet (it should also work with other printers). 
This makes up, in a small way, for the fact that most of the help system
has been stripped.

Raan Young (raan@cv.hp.com)  HP Corvallis, OR  USA
From: laub@Software.Mitel.COM (Boniface Lau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP95LX or Sharp PC 3000 ? Available in the SF Bay area ?
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:46:31 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.
In-reply-to: azilker@unixg.ubc.ca's message of 27 Jul 92 14:49:11 GMT

>>>>> On 27 Jul 92 14:49:11 GMT, azilker@unixg.ubc.ca (Andreas Zilker) said:
Andreas> in the very near future :-) I need to buy a palmtop computer
Andreas> for real work :-) I know the technical specs for the HP & the
Andreas> Sharp, but up to now I've not yet seen the Sharp in
Andreas> "reality". Any recommendations ???

Since Sharp announced the PC-3000 in January, I came across several
people from both Usenet and CompuServe selling their HP to buy Sharp.
Of course, I also came across people who just left their HP in their
drawer and switched to the Sharp.

IMHO, Sharp beats HP hands down!
--
Boniface Lau    (613) 592-2122 ext. 3042    Boniface_Lau@Mitel.COM
Mitel Corp.  				    
350 Legget Drive, Kanata
Ontario, Canada, K2K 1X3
From: usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Menu95,Jagmenu,Apname.lst problem
Date: 25 Jul 92 23:42:50 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <92205.175151BACKD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> BACKD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA writes:
>I've just upgraded my 95lx from 512 to 1meg and reinstalled all my
>utilities. However, I can't get either Jagmenu or menu95 to run. Other
>system manager compliant programs listed in apname.lst run but not either
>of the menu utilities. I can't figure out where the problem is....Any
>suggestions?
.....

The new ROMs which come with the 1MB (and new 512K) units need loaders
which allocate more stack space than the loaders used with the ROMs in the
old 512K machines. I suggest you download new versions of the programs
which are giving you trouble. I believe all the applications have been
upgraded with new loaders.

Vic Roberts
GE Research and Development Center, Schenectady, NY
roberts@crd.ge.com
From: usenet@crd.ge.com (Required for NNTP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Reliability of HP95LX?
Date: 25 Jul 92 23:35:16 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <greg.711857985@octopus> greg@octopus.dpsi.com (Gregory R. Travis) writes:
>Can anyone attest to the reliability of the HP95?  I just picked up my
>THIRD unit from Service merchandise in 2.5 months.



I have had my 95LX since Nov 91. I use it all day, every day. It has never
failed.

Vic Roberts
GE Research and Development Center, Schenectady, NY
roberts@crd.ge.com
From: raan@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Raan Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: 95-to-unix backup tool package
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:07:23 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA


The first response to this note is a sharfile containing a package 
of tools I have written which allow easy backup/restore of an HP95LX
to/from a unix system.  These tools have been tested on several HP
unix platforms and should work on other versions of unix, but have
not been tested on any.  This package is distributed as is and free
of charge (see the distribution conditions in the usage portion of
the package).  No warranty or promise of support is given by me or
by HP.  Use at your own risk.  Do not inhale.  Your mileage may
vary.  etc, etc, etc.

These tools use kermit and an RS-232 link between the 95 and your unix
system to provide the ability to create an exact clone of the entire
95 file structure on your unix system.  All this with 2 keystrokes on
the 95 and one unix command.  You can also backup selected sub-directories
or specific files, and use multiple combinations in one command.  Files
are only backed up if they have changed since the last backup.  If you
so choose, files on the unix clone will be removed if they no longer
exist on the 95.  The list of potential files can be screened to 
exclude files or directories that you never want backed up.  Backed
up files are verified and you are informed of any that did not backup
successfully.

Should the need arise, you can restore files to the 95 with equal 
flexibility and ease.  You can also use restore as means of downloading
sets of files to the 95.

Most aspects of the tools are user-configurable to taste -- location
of the tools and backup clone on unix, location of required files on
the 95, upper/lower case filenames on unix, default drive and directory
on the 95, option defaults, etc.

In addition, several useful utilities are included for manipulating
the backup structure on the unix system.  These allow you to easily
add/remove files/directories, convert text files between dos and
unix formats, and do global filename case changes on the backup
structure.

These tools are driven entirely from the unix side and require only
one macro key on the 95 (which one is user-configurable).  All other
necessary parts are copied to the 95 as part of the process and are
removed when done (this is also user-configurable).

Please read the usage file carefully.  There are many details about
installation, configuration, and operation, and other useful bits
of information in it.

Some, but not extensive, knowledge about unix, the 95, and RS232 is
necessary to successfully install this package.


Raan Young (raan@cv.hp.com)  HP Corvallis, OR  USA
From: tonl@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Ton 't Lam CRC)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:38:54 GMT
Subject: Change mem layout programmatically?
Organization: HP-Sales Office-The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops


Question of Gerlof Donga (Portasoft):

How to change the memory layout/configuration via a program.
In other words, what hook/address to use?

Ton 't Lam.
From: bj608@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert S. Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Belt Pouch for 95LX and Wizards
Date: 28 Jul 92 06:35:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)



I thought this product might be of
general interest to the Palmtop
"community". Special versions of this
product are available for Sharp Wizard
and HP95LX. Several other sizes are
available to fit various equipment
(Handheld Trancievers, cellular Phones,
etc.) Give Phil a call and ask!




++++ Forwarded Message Begins +++++

  : 1673 S9/3rd party-products
     25-Jul-92  06:19:44
 Sb: The Pouch[tm] for 95LX
 Fm: robert williams 76167,2773
 To: All

Well Folks,

Phil Richardson just sent me his
special 95LX version of The Pouch [tm].
I have tried it out and find it perfect
for unobtrusive carrying of the 95LX on
the belt. This case really fits the
95LX like a glove..... I'm happy.

In case you just tuned-in and are not
aware of The Pouch [tm], it is a small
belt pouch made of nylon-faced Neoprene
material similar to the material SCUBA
wet-suits are made from. The material
is a very durable closed cell foam
rubber bonded to a thin black spandex
material facing both sides. The
material is about 3 mm thick overall

and provides a bouncy protective
enclosure for the 95LX. The
construction is very well done and high
quality.

A 1 1/2 inch wide nylon strap runs over
the top of the pouch and secures with a
velcro closure. It is so lightweight
that I forgot I was wearing the 95LX on
my belt. I had to repeatedly reach back
and touch it to confirm it was still
there.

Also, it is possible to drop a pair if
spare batteries down in the bottom of
the pouch and still fit the 95LX with
full coverage. The material is stretchy
enough to "forgive" a couple of AA
batteries and the bottom just shows a
slight outpouching when the spare AAs
are down there.


I will have to give this product a "10"
for ingenious design and execution in a
simple belt pouch for the 95LX. I can
seriously recommend it without
reservation.

 Color: Black
 Price: $19.95
 From: The Pouch Manufacturing Company
 Order: call 1-800-72-POUCH
          or (602) 297-2184
        FAX: (602) 327-5300

       Address: 535 Suffolk Dr.
                Tucson, Arizona, 85704
                USA



                     Robert S. Williams
From: feldman@toklas.enet.dec.com (Gary Feldman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Database/User File programming for Sharp Wizard
Keywords: Wizard, Basic, Programming, User File
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:32:44 GMT
Reply-To: feldman@toklas.enet.dec.com (Gary Feldman)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Does the Basic programming card for the Sharp Wizard allow access to the regular
User Files?  to the clock?

Here's the problem:  I tried the Sharp Time Manager card and decided it didn't 
meet my needs.  There was no way to go directly from report mode to editing an
entry from a report.  There was no way to tie time-spent entries to to-do-list
entries.  The time-spent model assumed was based on the notion that all work 
was for a client, not a task or project.

I'd like to program the Wizard to do the following:

    Maintain entries that include a short title, a description, a priority, a
    project, optional deadline date, time estimates, time actuals, and possibly 
    a task type.

    Find entries based on specific fields, i. e., if I search for project "foo"
    I don't want to get all task descriptions containing foo.

    Sort based on priority, deadline date, or other fields.

    Allow me to easily indicate that I'm starting work on a specific task entry, 
    save that information, turn it off, come back later and say that I've
    started on a new task entry, and have it automatically calculate the time
    spend on the previous entry, and record it, adding it into any previous
    entry.  This might be one of the difficult parts, since it requires saving 
    state.

    Allow me to edit those entries, since I'll never get it perfect.

    Allow me to create new time-spent entries, that don't always match a 
    to-do list entry.

Can this be done reasonably with the Basic card and some programming?  Are there
any other options (short of trading up to a different organizer)?  By the way,
mine is the 7620, so it doesn't have the same exact set of features as the 8000.

   Gary