HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: Re: Epistemological Question
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:16:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.195311.902@cco.caltech.edu>, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:
>	1)  Is there any claim made that the account I'm hearing can be
>	    verified via physical evidence (even if that evidence is not
>	    immediately accessible to me)?
>	2)  Can I find several accounts that don't obviously spring from a
>	    single original account?
>	3)  Do the various accounts agree, more or less, on the features that
>	    would have seemed most important at the time?
>	4)  Do the accounts differ in minor details?
>If the answers to all four questions are "yes," I conclude that the account is
>likely to be history.  If none of the answers are "yes," I conclude it's
>probably fiction.

Sorry, I left out an even more important criterion:
	0)  Do the events in the account satisfy the laws of nature as we know
	    them?
From: ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Beirne Lively)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Dr. Asimov
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:12:07 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Bear wlaks out of the picnic and takes a glass of (rats what was that
stuff from marooned off Vesta)  and drinks it down.  Then he walks over
to the fire place and hurls the glass in at a speed aproaching c with a
vengence.  where it promptly shatters.  The sound of the shatter glass
echoes out the words, "to the years supply of water we used to
have....to the relics we used to have....." to which Bear adds, "to the
best author we used to have. :..("

"Mankind has a exactly one right.  The right to die.  Not die when they
 want to just to die.  All else is privilege or responsibility."
Bear aka the Lord High Rulebender aka (ml5a@andrew.cmu.edu)
From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: A new wizard.
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:56:27 GMT
Organization: Grapevine and friends
Originator: spok@MATHOM.GANDALF.CS.CMU.EDU

[ another attempt to get past ucbvax... ]

>And then all is silent from that magic globe......

  "Oh, I get it ! You're a ventriloquist ! " says NickD. <grin>


* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Applied Computer Science
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "Women are People, *not* property." me
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keaches@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kevin S Eaches)
Subject: The expedition....
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:27:33 GMT

Legion looks up from his table, after listening to several people talking about
an expedition to a temple that might be a mausoleum of Asimov. He hmmms softly 
to himself for a few minutes, then speaks up.
     "StM, that sounds interesting to me.  I'd love to go on the expedition.  
I'm a SF fan (My personal library is over 1000, plus I've read a lot more), and
my personal field is molecular genetics.  I'm not a chemist per se, but the 
molecular genetics does include some biochem, so that might help.  I've also 
studied whatever subjects interested me, and I get interested in lots of 
things....Need another generalist? :) "
     While waiting for a reply, Legion gets interested in the picnic going on 
in the meadow. "Been ages since I've been on a picnic....StM, while you're 
thinking it over, I'll be out in the meadow...."  Legion makes gesture, and 
disappears for a few minutes.  Then he slowly fades back in, carrying a picnic 
basket and grinning.  He waves to StM, and then wanders out into the meadow, to
enjoy some nice outdoors and some food....
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin 'Legion' Eaches           keaches@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
They got the library at Alexandria; they're NOT getting mine!
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Subject: Re: most passionate of the Signs ???
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-16278]: spop.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Organization: POPS Operations
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 05:14:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.191229.20746@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, brumby@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen McNamara) writes:
|> 
|>    The brumby's knowledge of star signs is somewhat hazy but his wife
|> seems to know quite a bit. At least she delights in pointing out how
|> some people fit into the stereotype of their star sign.
|> 
|> >   "gee kitten, I thought it was the Cancer types that were the most
|> >passionate. After all, I read an article in a magazine that stated
|> >that women should pay more attention to Cancerian males. Most of them
|> >look rather plain, but if there was a video screen on a Cancerian
|> >male's forehead, more women would be interested in them.
|> 
|>    "If there were a video screen on my head I'd have been arrested years
|> ago...."
|>    "Actually, I've been told that Cancerians are mostly noted for being
|> acquisitive. Not as in grasping or greedy but just in that they tend to
|> keep a lot of things around themselves. 
|> 
|> >  NickD. { yes, I have a video... }
|> 
|>    The brumby wonders whether he should risk looking at NickD's head or
|> not.
|> 

     "Actually 'yes, I have a video...' is from a 'Young Ones' episode.
   I saw it on MTV about two years ago. I don't have a video on my
   forehead, honest... " NickD.
 
-- 
     pierce@navo.navy.mil  Jim Pierce aka Nick D.

    "Walk like an Egyptian" The Bangles.
From: sj_a107@titan.kingston.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Where are Rhodri James and Party?????
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:47:32 GMT
Organization: Kingston Polytechnic

Logos produces a loudhailer (bullhorn, megaphone, you must know what I'm 
talking about) and walks to the middle of the bar.

"CALLING WINDSINGER! CALLING WINDSINGER! ARE YOU THERE, RHODRI??!!"

He adjusts the volume a little, and continues.

"Has anything happened to this party of yours? Where are the following
 details? The lists of attendees and apologies? The directions? My email
 reply might have been lost in transit, but surely.... Does anyone know 
 what is happening? ANYONE?!"


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| The more he farted, the less he spoke. | At Kingston Polytechnic        |
| The less he spoke, the more he farted, | Kingston-upon-Thames, England  |
| He wished he'd never even started.     |                                |
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From: hkhenson@cup.portal.com (H Keith Henson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Cryonics background material available
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 23:19:41 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I have about 60k of first hand material on the most recent two cryonic
suspensions done by Alcor.  Any budding SF writers looking for background
material are welcome to copies.  If I get only a few, I will respond by
email, more and I will just post it.  Keith Henson hkhenson@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer)
Subject: Re: All mind and no heart?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 07:37:45 GMT


      Hmmmm.  (I DO start a lot of posts like that, don't I?)
 
 
      Some thoughts. . . Kateri is probably right, in that directly trying
to help/change a person usually backfires.
 
     I learned to deal with depression, anger, etc, by living them and learnign
that I could deal with them.  When I'm angry, I am not forced to do somethign
I wouldn't do if not angry, except I speak much more unkindly and lose all
traces of diplomacy.
 
     Children who are loved and cuddled are less likely to cry when their 
parents leave; those who aren't cuddled as often cry more when their parents
leave even though they should be 'used to it'.  Says something about the 
healing and growth power of happiness, eh?
 
     If you feel you should be raging, you probably are, but you aren't g
giving rein to it.  Nothing wrong with that, but it can be awfully frustrating
which CAN hurt you in the long run.  I either decide I cna't do anything and
punch out the nearest unbreakable wall, or I decide I can do something and DO
IT.  Sometimes living your anger and your pain frees it. . . and sometimes
freeing pain makes the happiness sweeter.
 
      No advice from this quarter; I gave up trying to save the world a long
time ago. . . but if any of the above is any help in getting your own brain 
working, good. . .
                                               John

-- 
"Love is cool; I mean, like, really cool.  Like, the coolest thing in
the universe, where, like, people open up inside and show the world how
they feel, and they ain't afraid someone's gonna laugh because they, like,
love themselves already!"  --Personality 42, a generic 60's philosopher
From: aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk (Alan Ralph)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Jus' Checkin' ...
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:41:26 GMT
Reply-To: Alan Ralph <aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk>
Organization: Gated to News by demon.co.uk

Hello folks!  Kimberley MonTemplar here.

I've got a bit of a problem at the moment, in that although I can mail to
the usenet gateway at demon.co.uk as normal, someone somewhere is holding
up news and some email from reaching me at Cix... needless to say this is
worrying, as I don't know for sure if my email is reaching people OK.

Hopefully Cix will sort out the news feed problem soon. Fingers crossed.

Alan Ralph <-> Kimberley MonTemplar
From: Adrian.Waterworth@newcastle.ac.uk (Adrian Waterworth)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: A question that's been buggin' our household for ages....
Date: 13 Apr 92 07:33:47 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

Hearing MonTemplar mention Dick Dastardly ("Muttley! DO SOMETHING"),
Muttley ("Rsshafrshshnashn-Dick-Dashtrdly!") and Clunk ("Well, if we
zoot-brroing-phric-wheee the brrrt-phrzzz-boinnggg!") and bemoan the
fact that he can't remember the other guy's name ("Ooohh n-n-nooo!),
Martyr cannot help but offer his assistance...

	"Zilly!"

is all he says.

"Sashnfrashnrshn-medal-medal-medal!!!"

					M-(uttley)-artyr.

		\----------------------------------------/
		 |  Adrian.Waterworth@newcastle.ac.uk	|
		/ ---------------------------------------\
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Alfvaen)
Subject: Re: Castellan, Dr. Who (was re: a short, uninteresting story)
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:39:06 GMT

Gillett, David writes
>      I believe that those who suggest that it sounds Spanish are  
thinking of
> 'Catalan', a native or the language of Catalonia, which I believe is in  
Spain.
>      A more appropriate association would be 'chatelaine', the person  
who
> manages the affairs of a 'chateau'.

"Well, castellan does come from Latin, which Spanish >is< kind of similar  
to in som ways.  And since I imagine that chateau is probably descended  
from castellum, chatelaine is a doublet of castellan.  There you go,  
Castellan--en francais, you're named after a women's magazine!  (A  
Canadian one, I think, but nonetheless...)"

>                                       Mentor the Sage

--

---Alfvaen(and no, this isn't my real name!)
Canadian Network For Space Research, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
If you stand on your head, you will get footprints in your hair.
Current Album--She's Having A Baby Soundtrack
 "I know you have a little life in you yet
  I know you have a lot of strength left."
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Invisibility and Stupidity Continued
Date: 14 Apr 1992 22:54:51 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine

In article <92105.081218AXM113@psuvm.psu.edu> AXM113@psuvm.psu.edu (Abner Mintz) writes:
>They have made all computer games illegal between the hours of 6pm to 1am, and
>later in the semester they will be illegal period.  This means, if you walk
>into an empty computer lab (say, 24 other terminals free) and start playing
>Tetris with the sound off, as soon as they notice they will make you stop and
>possibly put you on report (if you are a repeat offender).

	Well, it's pretty harsh, but speaking as a sysadmin (Okay, who
threw that peanut?  Try it again buster, I dare ya ;-), I do understand
why they do that.  Without some sort of policy on games, they rapidly 
take up both disk space and workstations, and people with real work to
do have to try to bump some frosh with too much time on his hands
to get their projects done on time.  I must confess that a more reasonable
policy (the one from my alma-mater, Rice) was that nobody was allowed to
be playing games or just reading news if there were no free seats in the
lab.  It didn't matter if one of the other labs was empty.  That makes
better sense, but is harder to enforce, since it requires the users to
go up to the gamer and tell them to go screw.  And there's a rule about
no network games (like Xtrek).  Some bonehead was warned twice not to 
play them, and only through immense ammounts of groveling was allowed to
keep his account.  Remember, as fun as they are, people who want to 
get real work done should have priority over play-time.


>They have just reduced the time articles remain on netnews from 7 days to 3
>days (which is why I have been missing articles ... I was reading netnews
>every few days, and this allowed some to expire before I read them), which was
>easy to do without reconfiguring the system.

	Well, I'll betcha they're running out of disk space.  News takes up,
hmm, let me check, 452 meg right now on our news server, and it'll probably
fill up to the full 950 meg on the disk by the end of the week.  If disk
space were free, they'd probably let news hang around forever.

>I suppose that they may do other things to the system over the summer, and
>present them as a fait accompli in the fall, but I won't be here.  Good.

	Also, it may not be the sysadmin's fault.  Some of Rice's more
backasswards computer policies were set by a committee above us, and we
had to implement the policies we thought were dumb.

	Hey, hug a sysadmin today.  They can always use a couple.
-- 
Rick Jones				Systems Support Center
albert@bcm.tmc.edu			Baylor College of Medicine
Voice: 713-798-7352			standard disclaimers apply
GEEZ Mahn, I'm surrounded by amateurs!- Sebastian (the Little Mermaid)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (Michael Pope)
Subject: Re: A new wizard.
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 12:22:49 GMT

>In article <1992Apr12.065829.24408@ucc.su.OZ.AU> ablanch@physics.su.OZ.AU (Shonias) writes:
>>Shonias finally pulls herself far enough out of her work to 
>>notice the goings on in the Place. She too notices a new feeling
>>of magic, but a familiar one. She looks back in through the french
>>doors to see a Wizard, looking stately, but, (typically for a wizard)
>>slightly overdone. She giggles to herself, reflects on points of
>>position and etiquette, and decides that yes, it is not unfitting 
>>for an elf-queen to greet a wizard. (Just in case anyone thought this
>>elf was geeting a little too big for her kid boots, her dilemma 
>>was her wothiness to address a wizard, not vice versa)
>>
>>"Welcome sir," She bows low, "I am honoured to meet...." There is
>>a dawning of recognition, and Shonias hugs the wizard. "I am so
>>pleased to see you made it, and I apologise for taking so long to
>>greet you."
>>
>>"A drink for the wizard, Mike, if you will"
>>
>>She tosses the silver dollar to the bar, and invites the wizard
>>to the picnic...
   
The Wizard smiles broadly at Shonias, the hug is well welcome.  From his
bag he produces a pink Warm Fuzzy, which proceeds to tickle Shonias gently
but firmly.  Shonias giggles and the Wizard decides that she has had enough
and asks the Fuzzy to stop.

"Perhaps now people will understand the nature of my magic", he says, and
finishes the drink before him as he walks towards the chalk line......


Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: wyang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William D Yang)
Subject: Re: Potstickers
Summary: I thought I was lurking....
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:48:56 GMT

Danger Mouse writes:

>"Aha!" Danger Mouse finally has some concept of what the US folks are
>raving about. "Do you mean to say that you don't use the (much more
>appetising, IMHO) Chinese names of won-ton, shao-mai and dim-sim?"

Dim-sim?  I thought it was dim sum....  wontons and shao mai are different
(shao mai are made with shrimp and are steamed; wontons are deep-fried).  Dim
sum is the name of a meal, much like "brunch" is used here in America.
Potstickers (alias Goyza, alias Peking Ravs, alias pan-fried dumplings) are
filled with meat (pork, usually) and fried in a pan (eg: not deep fried),
thereby making a notable difference.

We use all of those names, actually, and quite a few more... bao tse, jaotse, 
for instance...  (I don't think I'm using the correct spelling, anymore; it's 
been way too long since I cooked /real/ chinese food)...

I guess all us Retired Chinese Chefs will go back to lurking now....

          -Ray (who isn't /REALLY/ here... he just does a good job of looking 
like he's here).

>
>- Danger Mouse.
-- 
William D. Yang         wyang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu         Yang.25@osu.edu
Technical Assistant to North Area Computing Sites at The Ohio State University.
It's my opinion: if you really want it, you can have it for a nominal fee.
From: JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET (JIM PIERCE)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: re: Dr. Asimov
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:37:03 GMT


I agree. Isaac Asimov is a great writer. He has changed from our
plane of existance to another. I read 'I,Robot' at age 6. Thats what
decided me to get into computers. If I had not gotten into computers
I probably wouldn't be here, among friends.

  "I must blow taps... " Linda.

.........................


Linda cries, " If not for his Three Laws of Robotics, I wouldn't exist !"

NickD. hugs Linda "Its okay Linda, you are among friends." NickD.

  I remember another song. I feel it is appropriate for this occasion.

"Softly falls the light of day,
 As our campfire fades away,
 Silently each Scout should ask,
 Have I done my daily task,
 Have I kept my honour bright,
 Have I done everything to Be Prepared,
 Have I done and have I dared ?"

  I don't think I have it in the correct sequence, but I think Isaac
will understand. Its an old Scout camp song, but in many ways it
reminds me of the wonderful stories of a wonderful author. Good-bye
Isaac Asimov, we will all miss you. NickD. joins Linda in a good cry.
 later, jimp.

* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Applied Computer Science
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "Women are People, *not* property." me
From: erikred@ocf.berkeley.edu (Erik Nielsen)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: RHPS
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:50:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.s2e6oINN4bh
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Apr7.204923.14885@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
}all kitten can do is giggle helplessly at the bfg....

"Dammit, Jim, I'm a serious actor, not a comic doctor!"

}"not meatloaf for dinner agaaaaaaain?!"

"Just one from the vaults."  [A greaser from the freezer, a bat out of Hell!]

"Get your ass off my table!" and "Everyone gets a piece of ass at Frank's
parties."  "It's nutritious, it's delicious, it's-- STEAM!!!"  [Steam will
save the world!!!]  "Use a fork, dork; try the spoon, goon."  "Hey, Riff,
what kind of wine is that?  Oh, must be a table wine."

"I came here to discuss Eddie."
"Eddie!!!"
[whirrr!!! menacingly]
"That's a rather tender subject, don't you think?"
[Janet gets it, Brad gets it, Dr. Scott gets it, Rocky doesn't care.]


}***************************************************************************
}conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
}"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
}                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
}
}"kittens today are not properly trained--the way that they were when
}victoria reigned." asparagus (gus: the theatre cat)


Erik, the BFG
-- 
     "All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain."
			Roy, _Blade Runner_
Erik Nielsen					erikred@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: abortion
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:48:34 GMT
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera

In article <1992Apr13.012326.9971@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, ablanch@physics.su.OZ.AU (Shonias) writes:
>One option is to allow the criminal the choice
>to die. Not a lot would choose it, but some would, you only have to look
>at the number of suicides in prisons. Some would choose to die, in which
>case, they have obviously decided that they are guilty, and who can be
>a better judge than the person themselves.

It's not obvious to me, since your argument implies that ANY person who commits
suicide must have done so because he'd already committed crimes that deserved
the death penalty.  What of the convicted (but innocent) criminal who is
certain that he'll never be able to prove his innocence, who knows that, with
his conviction, the state has stopped looking for the REAL criminal, who
doesn't expect the real criminal to turn himself in, and who decides that he'd
rather be dead than spend the rest of his life in prison?
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Subject: re: the dark elf returns
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:20:47 GMT


  "Welcome back Michael { the dark elf, not you Mike the bartender..}.

I know quite a few SCA people myself. Some are nice to talk to and
some walk around with their noses in the air. I would say any group
has that kind of spread in members, i.e. some who are nice to talk
to and others... Anyway, the local convention I attend has a mixture
of many different peoples: comics/anims/SCA/sci-fi/button wearers/
fantasy/gamers/movie buffs/costumes/non-costumers/etc./etc. Most
of us get along with everybody else." NickD.

  I've been using 'alt.callahans-news@newsbase.cs.yale.edu' since
ucbvax died yesterday. Thanks John !

    I have noticed that ucbvax didn't work numerous times in the
past.

    Talk at you all later, JimP. { Its lunch and then work from
Noon until 10 P.M. local }


* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Applied Computer Science
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "Women are People, *not* property." me