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From: ederveen@athena.research.ptt.nl (Ederveen D.)
Subject: Free Esperanto Course (regula posxtajxo / periodic posting)
Summary: introductory Esperanto correspondence course by e-mail
Keywords: esperanto, e-mail course
Reply-To: D.N.M.Ederveen@research.ptt.nl
Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:01:05 GMT

Periodic posting about the                              Regula posxtajxo pri la
                             FREE ESPERANTO COURSE

What ?                                  Kio ?
An online Esperanto course, available   Reta Esperanto-kurso, havebla en ambaux
in both English and French. Based on    la angla kaj la franca lingvoj. Gxi
the popular Free Postal Course of the   bazigxas sur la populara Free Postal
Esperanto League for North America. We  Course de la Esperanto-Ligo de Norda
hope to add courses in other languages  Ameriko. Ni esperas aldoni kursojn en
in the future.                          aliaj lingvoj estonte.

How much ?                              Kiom ?
Free! 10 lessons.                       Senpaga! 10 lecionojn.

How ?                                   Kiel ?
Tutors in netland will help you,        Instruantoj en retlando helpos vin,
correct your exercises, and send you    korektos viajn ekzercojn, kaj sendos al
subsequent lessons.                     vi sekvajn lecionojn.

Why ?                                   Kial ?
To learn Esperanto, of course!          Por lerni Esperanton, kompreneble!

Who ?                                   Kiu ?
For you!                                Por vi!

Where ?                                 Kie ?
Send e-mail to me (address: see below)  Sendu e-posxton al mi (adreso: vd.
and I will send you the first lesson,   sube) kaj mi sendos al vi la unuan
together with the network address of    lecionon, kune kun la retadreso de via
your personal tutor. Please indicate    propra instruanto. Bonvolu indiki la
English or French.                      anglan aux la francan.

When ?                                  Kiam ?
Now, if you like.                       Nun, se vi volas.

How Good ?                              Kia ?
From the very first lesson you will be  Ekde la unua leciono, vi povos skribi
able to write in Esperanto, and upon    en Esperanto, kaj fininte la kurson, vi
completion, you will be able to         povos kompreni preskaux cxiun
understand almost every Esperanto-text  Esperanto-tekston, (helpe de vortaro),
(with the help of a dictionary), and to kaj skribi simplajn tekstojn.
write simple texts.

I await your e-mail!                    Mi atendas vian posxtajxon!

greetings / salutojn,
Derk Ederveen                        internet: D.N.M.Ederveen@research.ptt.nl
                                               earn:  ederveen@hlsdnl5.bitnet
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From: stenberg@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Dag Stenberg)
Subject: Re: How To Say "Thank You"
Organization: University of Helsinki
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:23:09 GMT

Andy Deitsch (deitsch@sol.crd.ge.com) wrote:
> 
> Das Ve Dania - Russian
> 
That unfortunately means "so long" like Au revoir!

Spasiba = thank you in Russian (the spelling can be dicussed)
From: ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Advice needed -> South Africa
Date: 6 Jan 1993 01:32:02 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1993Jan5.181201.23451@iplmail.orl.mmc.com> artc@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Art) writes:
>Hello:
>
>	I am going to South Africa End of this Month,
>	is there anyone out there who has been there
>	and could give me some advice??? on places to go,
>	places to avoid, weather???

South Africa is a beautiful place!  It's just about Autumn now, the
weather will be crisp and clear.  If you're in Johannesburg, try
visiting the Hillbrow Tower for a great restaurant and view of the
city.  Carlton Center is a nice place to check out.

Someone else mentioned Cape Town and Durban.  Cape Town has the famous
Table Mountain, where the mist covers a flat-top mountain so that it
looks like a tablecloth.  Durban has a nice dock.  I don't remember
the townships, but they are a good experience.

If you go into Pretoria, they have beautiful Jacarandas lining the
streets by the embassies.

If you have time, drive through Kruger National Park, which is 3/4 the
size of Taiwan.  It's a huge, wonderful game reserve.  Beware of the
animals.  If you stay in one of the huts, some people may tell you
that a lion just ate someone last week.  It's not true, but you'll
spend a sleepness night wondering if one may come into your hut (at
least, my mother did!)

If you want to gamble, go into neighbouring Swaziland (northeast),
where you can also pick up some cool native souvenirs.

SA produces some of the best apples in the world.  They have peaches
that I've never seen in the US.  The exchange is somewhat cheaper now,
$1 to 1.something Rand.  The big paper is the Rand Daily Mail (at
least, that's what it was 14 years ago.)

If you have lots of money, buy a diamond.  Their typical cut is 52
facets to the US standard of 48, so whatever kind you get, it looks
brighter and sparkles more than its equivalent here in the States.

Most likely, you'll fly into Jan Smuts Airport.  He was a famous dude
from the Boer Wars.  I don't remember all my history lessons, sniff...

Have fun!  And if you go by Market Street by the old Johannesburg
Chinese Kuo Ting High School, under the overpass, please check on the
pillars and see if my name is still there!

	-- Anita --

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From: zxmsu01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Joost Schuur)
Subject: Working and travelling (where?)
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:17:02 GMT

Hi!

   I'm interested in spending six to twelve moths outside of Europe and 
am now looking for countries that offer working permits/visas and 
have employment possibilities for a young, prosprous, who wouldn't say
no to physical labor. Somthing along the line of fruit picking in Austra-
lia or cooking for lumberjacks in Canada or waiter in Auckland. Any-
thing you can recommend? The big problem is, I do not have that much
money now. Only enough for a single fare ticket say, to Sydney and
enough money to survive a month. Thats why I want to work too! What 
conutries have less strict requirements for obtaining a working permit,
i.e. do no want to see a return ticket and at least $1000 for each month
I stay there? Is there maybe a mailing list or news group for this?

   Thanks for any help... Joost
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From: dmm@head-cfa.harvard.edu (David Meleedy)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: REQ: tickets & info for inauguration
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:50:43 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

I am posting this for someone, please respond via email and not "reply".

hi.  anyone out there know about getting free tickets for the inauguration
events that otherwise cost money?  i mean, the swearing in and a bunch of
other stuff is free, and you don't need tickets.  but stuff like the kennedy
center reception you do need tickets for.

PLEASE REPLY BY EMAIL to shaks@cfa237.harvard.edu.

thanks, 
jon schachter
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meleedy@cfa.harvard.edu                 60 Garden Street, MS 70
Phone: 617 495 7252                     Cambridge, MA  02138  USA
From: steve.willan@compdyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Willan) 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: MIDDLE EAST
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:08:00 GMT
Reply-To: steve.willan@compdyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Willan) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Dynamics - Vancouver B.C. - (604)986-9937 (604)255-9937

Im planning to work in Saudi Arabia....
Is there any inside information any one could give?
What about visiting Israel...Ive heard of ways to enter the country
after having a Arab country Visa stamp on it....
Thanks..!!
                                    
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From: iebtcom@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Mike Adamczyk )
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: travel info colombia needed
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:48:52 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: Full Circles

Can anybody give me some travel information about colombia. Interessting
sites, politics, advice etc

Mike Adamczyk email iebtcom@accucx.cc.ruu.nl
The definition of sound is ......... tell me please
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From: cfar@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Carol Farquhar)
Subject: Need room for 3 weeks in Birmingham, Alabama
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:17:12 GMT

I need an inexpensive place to stay in Birmingham alabama. Sometime
the old school/college rent the place by the week. If anyone knows
of any place (YMCA) or a room with someone please let me know.

I need it immidiately till January 20, 1992

Thanks
Rafique

my email address: mahmood@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov
phone: 205-544-2122


-- 
Carol Farquhar-New Technology,Inc      I'm sick of .sig files. 
Huntsville, AL                     
cfar@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov           
Opinions are sometimes mine.
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From: Bill Beblo <wb@rigel.cc.bellcore.com>
Subject: ATM machines in Australia/New Zealand
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Red Bank, NJ 07701
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 18:21:38 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A777277A8C01413C@lambda.bellcore.com>
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
X-Xxdate: Mon, 11 Jan 93 13:32:42 GMT

I will be traveling to Sydney, Melbourne and Auckland beginning towards
the end
of February.  I've heard that the exchange rate obtained at ATM machines
is better
that that generally received from exchange bureaus.  As such, does anyone
know
if there are any ATM machines affiliated with the CIRRUS network in any
of these
cities, particularly at the airports?  Does anyone know specifically
where they
are located?

If anyone has any other suggestions about changing money in these
countries (if
ATM machines might not be available), I'd appreciate any additional
information.

Thanks,
Bill Beblo
(wb@cc.bellcore.com)
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From: Tom Davies <tomd@horse.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Overland Travel in Africa
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A77118EEAE0108B0@horse.demon.co.uk>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 6 Jan 93 23:17:02 GMT
Organization: None
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:19:49 GMT

I am planning an overland trip, London to Cape Town, for the end of 1993. 
I am keen to correspond with anyone who has done, or is going to do 
anything similar, or who has detailed knowledge of current African 
conditions. I am especially interested in the political situation in the 
south of Algeria, and in hearing from anyone who has crossed the Sahara 
recently, as this is the tricky part at the moment. Has anyone crossed 
other than through Algeria?

Thanks,
	Tom
	
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From: yu@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (meng-lin.mark.yu)
Subject:  Best way to travel between London and Manchester
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:11:15 GMT

Dear netters:

I am trying to decide whether to take trains, busses or airplanes when
travelling between London and Manchester.   While I have been conducting 
some research on my own at local library,  I couldn't find *specifics*
regarding the following questions,

	travel time,
	cost,
	frequency and convenience (service hours),
	scenery and
	comfort.
	

Without knowing answers of the above, I am leaning toward trains.
I appreciate any information and/or experiences you could email me to
help me decide.

Thanks,
Mark Yu 
yu@vax135.att.com
From: P.Jennings@frcl.bull.fr (Philip Jennings)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: WANTED: Hotels in Chicago and New Orleans
Keywords: hotel
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:03:27 GMT
Reply-To: P.Jennings@frcl.bull.fr (Philip Jennings)

I'm looking for hotel recommendations in Chicago and New Orleans. I won't
specify a price limit because right now I have no idea what accommodation
in these cities would cost, but what I'm looking for is a clean, quiet room
(for 1 person only), in a good location : in Chicago this would mean either
in the centre or somewhere with good access to public transportation, in
New Orleans I guess this would mean in or near the French Quarter. Secure
parking will be required in New Orleans (preferably free), but not in Chicago.

Please reply by e-mail, and I will summarise if asked to do so.

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Philip JENNINGS		<P.Jennings@frcl.bull.fr>
From: anaro@babel.ling.upenn.edu (Anthony J. Naro)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: request for information: accomdatin in Madrid
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:29:05 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Could anyone supply information on hotels or short-term apartment rentals
in Madrid, for approximately 10 days from 20 March 1993.  Private bath
required, Puerta del Sol area preferred but not essential.

A. Naro  anaro@babel.ling.upenn.edu

Respuestas en ingles o espanol, por favor
From: deitsch@sol.crd.ge.com (Andy Deitsch)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: How To Say "Thank You"
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:17:26 GMT
Reply-To: deitsch@sol.crd.ge.com
Organization: GE Research & Development


Toh Dah (Thanks), Toh Dah Ra Ba (Thank you very much) - Hebrew - Israel
Asante Sana - Swahili - Kenya
Efarasto - Greek - Greece
Shukra - Arabic
Domo Arigato - Japanese
Grazi (sp?) - Italian - Italy
Gracias - Spanish
Das Ve Dania - Russian

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Andy Deitsch                             email    : deitsch@crd.ge.com  
GE Corporate Research & Development      phone    : (518) 387-7207   
Schenectday, NY 12301                    dial comm: 833-7207
From: fritsch@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Lothar Fritsch)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: vacation in scotland/Ireland
Date: 11 Jan 1993 16:04:14 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft Informatik, U of Saarland, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de

Just get yourself a tent, some instant food, and search for a place far away
from civilisation, like the area north of Loch Maree, in direction to Ullapool.
Theres enough water, wonderful landscape ... silence ....

Lothar

--
Lothar Fritsch, Student der Universitaet des Saarlandes, Fachb. Informatik
Fachschaftsrat & Fachbereichsrat Informatik. Tel. 0681-302 4389

 Hochschulreform: Die Leute brauchen nicht so viel zu wissen,
                  Wichtig ist nur, da"s sie sich rasch verpissen.
From: karenro@smaug.West.Sun.COM (Karen Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Orlando Hotel
Date: 4 Jan 1993 11:05:25 -0800
Organization: SunSoft Inc., Los Angeles, CA.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: stp

I'd like information on the Peabody Hotel in Orlando. I guess there may be no   point in comparing it to the Disney hotels, but a general review would be 
appreciated.

Thanks, Ren
From: cstadgs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr R J Tinsley)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Overland Travel in Africa
Date: 11 Jan 1993 13:00:33 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <C0GGt2.LqJ@demon.co.uk> Tom Davies <tomd@horse.demon.co.uk> writes:
>Has anyone crossed other than through Algeria?

Now I do know that an overland truck got through Mauritania around March last
year, and the commercial overland companies are looking at this route for the
future. However this news is a little out of date, and they were exceptionally
lucky to manage it - check this out thoroughly.

-Bob

Probably
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: Setting expectations
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:55:43 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1993Jan5.155218.29389@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> nicklaus@lonetree.physics.wisc.edu (Dennis Nicklaus) writes:

>Wow!  I am surprised to hear your comments.  My wife & I went on a similar
>trip almost 2 years ago and had a completely different experience.  In
>short, ours was fantastic!  We stayed in the Sofitels on Huahine & Bora
>Bora, I think, and other hotels on the other islands. 

 . . . 

>Of course we went in March & maybe

  But this is the whole point, isn't it?!

  In French Polynesia the hot, rainy reason is December and January!
  Which should be no problem IF THE HOTEL IS EQUIPPED PROPERLY.  
  Meaning, no holes in the roof, screens on the doors and windows, 
  and a decent fan or air conditioning.

  
>No the hotels aren't the Ritz in terms of amenities.  But we were prepared for
>that

  How did you *become* prepared for that?  That was one of the questions in
  my posting -- how to get my expectations set.   Since the guide books
  all raved about these places they were no help (they also probably
  went in March).

  Also they certainly charge like the Ritz, and more to the point, Sofitel
  promotes itself as though they're world-class.


---peter
From: paul@moore.com (Paul Maclauchlan)
Subject: Request: St. Martin
Organization: Moore Corporation Limited, Toronto ON, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 03:37:26 GMT

Has anyone visited the island of St. Martin?  I'll be spending some time
there this spring, and I'm interested in recommendations for restaurants
and sightseeing / historical sites.  Also, any suggestions on unique or
unusual shopping excursions are welcome.

I'm also interested in any previously posted travelogues.

Thanks for your help!

-- 
.../Paul Maclauchlan
Moore Corporation Limited, Toronto, Ontario (416) 364-2600
paul@moore.com   -or-  {...!uunet.ca,...!telly}!moore!paul
"I'm going back to the border...where my affairs ain't abused"/EJ&BT'69
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From: andrewm@macadam.mpce.mq.edu.au (Andrew Myles)
Subject: Re: Polynesian music
Organization: Macquarie University, Sydney
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:53:46 GMT

In article <C0CH0s.DIC@apollo.hp.com>, nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
|>  We went to a local Protestant church where the entire 
|>  congregation (~250) was Polynesian and my wife and I and
|>  another couple were the only outsiders. 
|> 
|>  ...
|>
|>  Suddenly one woman sang out a verse of something Polynesian in a
|>  high, clear voice.  Then others joined in, right on time and on
|>  key.  And then still others.   
|> 
|>  It was the most beautiful music I had ever heard in any house of
|>  worship anywhere in the world.i
|> 
|>  ...
|>
|>  It had some of the most complex harmonies 
|>  I've ever heard.   It was amazingly smooth and "professional",

I had a similar experience when I was travelling around Africa three
years ago.  I was on the Zaire River Boat (really six barges and a power
unit tied together) travelling from Bumba to Kissingani trying to be
very, very sick when Sunday mass started.

After a short sermon the singing started.  It consisted of some very
complex harmonies and multiple parts and was incredibly beautiful. The 
most amazing thing is that the passengers were not part of a regular 
congregation but were simply thrown together by chance. The singing 
continued for overtwo hours.

Anyone going to Zaire should make sure that they do not miss the River
Boat.  The Sunday morning singing is not the only amazing part of the 
trip.  It is the continual noise and activity on board including two 
full time discos, the working African market (including crocadiles, pigs,
goats, monkeys, fish, turtles etc), the food (and other) smells and the
continual parade of local villagers attempting to tie their pirogue (canoe)
to the moving River Boat (quite a number sink in the attempt).

Don't try and book though, the Boat has no schedule.  We waited over a week
for a Boat that was supposed to turn up tomorrow.

Andrew

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From: vaigl-j@carp.cis.ohio-state.edu (James Vaigl)
Subject: cabins to rent?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:28:36 GMT


I'm looking for a nice state-park type place to stay next weekend.
I'd like to find some cabin in Ohio (I'm in Columbus) that's pretty
decadently romantic: fireplace, hot-tub, great view, hiking close by, etc.

If you have had some positive personal experience finding such a place,
please send me email; I'd like to hear about it.  And HURRY, cause I
need to make some reservations soon!

advTHANKSance
--Jim



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From:  wrf@ecse.rpi.edu (Wm Randolph Franklin)
Subject: Re: Does US make new citizens give up their old passport?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:31:54 GMT


In article <1814@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> on 8 Jan 93 05:00:18 GMT,
splee@pd.org (Seng-Poh Lee, Speedy) writes:

  > When one becomes a naturalized US citizen, does the INS make you give
  > up your old passport?
  > 
  > Can anyone who has gone through the process recently shed some light.
  > I know some countries allow you to maintain dual citizenship, but thats
  > kind of hard to do if they take your old passport away.

The US only requires that you forswear all foreign allegiance, which is
not compatible with an intent also to keep your old citizenship.  If you
exercised your old citizenship after becoming an American, that could be
grounds for yanking your American citizenship.  

However, things are becoming more liberal because of two Supreme Court
rulings in the last ten years.  E.g. (I think), an American can become
an Israeli MP.  Alt.visa.us is the place to ask.
-- 
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Wm. Randolph Franklin,  wrf@ecse.rpi.edu, (518) 276-6077;  Fax: -6261
ECSE Dept., 6026 JEC, Rensselaer Polytechnic Inst, Troy NY, 12180 USA
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From: matrix@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (MATRIX)
Subject: Delta Orlando Resort hotel...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:24:08 GMT


Hi Netters:

Anyone has any good/bad/any impressions of the Detla Orlando
Resot Hotel, in Orlando Florida?  If you do can you please
E-Mail me the information.  I have a package deal that I have
to either accept/deny no later than the 15th of January, so 
if you could reply to this as soon as possible I would really 
appreciate it.

Thanks in advance

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dennis@sequent.com (Dennis Storz)
Subject: Belize - Journey's End info wanted
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 20:00:25 GMT

Has anybody been to the Journey's End resort in Belize?
I'm considering a vacation there and would appreciate any
information you may have. Actually any information on 
Abergris Caye would help.
Thanks!
Dennis Storz
dennis@sequent.com

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