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From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Accrington Stanley (was Re: Results Wanted)
Date: 9 Sep 92 19:06:07 GMT
Reply-To: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article  J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (J.M.Ross) writes:
>
>In message <1992Sep9.095504.28043@alf.uib.no> s009@brems.ii.uib.no
>(Arne Rivenes) asks:
>
>>Does anyone have the results from the preliminary rounds in the FA-cup?

The Preliminary round of the qualifying competition took place at the
end of August, the 1st round of the qualifying competition takes place
on Saturday. Given the growing entry into the FA Cup, there are now an
enormous number of preliminary round results.

>>I also wonder if anyone knows in wich division Accrington (Stanley?) plays.
>>I assume that the club started over in a non-league division after their bankrupt.
>
>A new Accrington Stanley club was set up in 1968. Peel Park the home of the old
>club was no longer available so they play at Crown Park (capacity 2500). They
>are currently in the HFS Loans (Northern Premier) League Premier Division, one
>league below the GM Vauxhall Conference, and finished 8th last season having
>been promoted the season before.

Peel Park sat in an overgrown and decrepit state for many many years,
complete with old stand and players tunnel. Quite eery to walk around
it and realise that League Football was once played on it. I believe
the place has now been built over with houses. Crown Park is a tiny
little ground right behind a pub (of the same name?). Unless they
groundshare, I think Accrington are going to have great difficulty
progressing upward from here. 

Talking of former league clubs, Bradford Park Avenue are once again in
existence, playing in the North West Counties League along with other
former league clubs Glossop North End, Bootle (?) and Darwen.

--
Colin Morris       Ingres, an ASK company       cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

"And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
 highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon
From: skaamjm@ucl.ac.uk (Matthew Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Arsenal are Animals
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:25:05 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za writes:

>The Arsenal vs Blackburn game reiterated once again the animals that
>the Arsenal players are. Four players were booked including Ian
>Wright and Tony Adams. Ian Wright especially, should not be surprised
>that he did get booked as it must be the umpteenth time that he
>must be in trouble with the officials.
> 
>I just hope that the Football Association is taking note of these
>animals. If this type of display continues, the officials should impose
>stiffer fines or even ban these guys for periods of time.
> 
>Disgusted with the ARSE_NAL F.C.

You werent there son.

The referee made some unusual decisions, and failed to keep players
under control. Shearer was lucky to avoid a booking after Jensen by
the throat after a fairly mild foul which looked like an accident.

Ian Wright needs to watch himself, no problem, but he also needs better
protection from the refs. He is not a large player, and yer average
gorilla centre back knows that a bone cruncher or too will damp the
livelyness out of his play. (Why do you think that Limpar isnt playing
just now?). The gorilla's also know now that Wright can be provoked
easily, so if they dont get him by fouling, then he might get himself
booked, sent off or suspended.
Interesting too, that 'Brick Shit House' Kevin Campbell doesnt suffer
so many bone crunchers, despite being rather less nimble than
Wright or Limpar.

BTW, Where is 'wit' of .za ?
From: OCONNOR%NKI.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (Paul O'Connor)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: (none)
Date: 14 Sep 1992 15:31:38 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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subscribe rec-sport-soccer Paul O'Connor
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From: s009@brems.ii.uib.no (Arne Rivenes)
Subject: Results wanted
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 09:55:04 GMT

Does anyone have the results from the preliminary rounds in the FA-cup?
I also wonder if anyone knows in wich division Accrington (Stanley?) plays.
I assume that the club started over in a non-league division after their bankrupt.
If someone have any ideas, please let me know. And postthe results for this season
if you got them.


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From: tex@cs.nott.ac.uk (Timothy Emanuel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English Results, Saturday September 12th
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:47:21 GMT
Reply-To: tex@cs.nott.ac.uk ()
Organization: Nottingham University

Here they are...., if you dont want to know, don't look.

Premier League.
Arsenal 0        Blackburn 1
Chelsea 2        Norwich 3
Crystal P 2      Oldham 2
Everton 0        Man Utd 2
Ipswich 2        Wimbledon 1
Man City 0       Middlesboro 1
Nottm Forest 1   Sheff Weds 2
Sheff Utd 1      Liverpool 0
Southampton 1    Q.P.R. 2

Division 1
Barnsley 1       Derby 1
Bristol C 0      Southend 1
Charlton 0       Cambridge 0
Millwall 0       Birmingham 0
Newcastle 3      Portsmouth 1
Oxford 0         Sunderland 1
Peterboro 1      West Ham 3
Swindon 2        Bristol R 2
Tranmere 1       Grimsby 1
Watford  1       Notts County 3

Division 2
Bournemouth 2    Fulham 1
Brighton 2       Huddersfield 1
Leyton O 4       Chester 3
Mansfield 5      Bradford 2
Plymouth 1       Stoke 1
Port Vale 2      Exeter 2
Preston 2        Burnley 0
Rotherham 2      Bolton 1
Stockport 5      Hull 3
Swansea 3        Blackpool 0
Wigan 2          Hartlepool 2 (Fri 11th)

Division 3 
Bury 0           Barnet 0
Carlisle 1       York 2
Colchester 3     Walsall 1
Crewe 4          Doncaster 0
Gillingham 0     Chesterfield 0
Lincoln 2        Halifax 1
Northampton 1    Scunthorpe 0
Scarboro 1       Torquay 0
Wrexham 2        Shrewsbury 0

Tomorrows Games.

Premier League
Leeds v Aston Villa

Division 1
Brentford v Luton
Leicester v Wolves

Division 3
Hereford v Cardiff.

That's all folks.

Tim.
From: CSALLEN@uga.cc.uga.edu (Christopher S. Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: NPSL franchise moves
Date: 11 Sep 1992 15:12:42 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 > Cup matches vs invited European teams

I am more in favor of the Cup format as well as a serious professional
league in all of the major North American cities (particularly the
WC venues). The European club teams and national sides will keep coming
each late spring and summer (e.g. US Cup), but you are right in saying
that the level of play by the visiting Europeans is not always up to
world class level.

Yet, I am afraid that there is not much vision in the US about the need
for a coast to coast professional league. In the most recent issue of
Soccer America, Paul Kennedy wrote that there was no discussion of
a larger professional league during the USSF meetings.

What can these people be thinking? That the WC is somehow going to magically
create an environment for professional soccer in North America? Much more is
needed than the WC which will come and go all too fast.

Best, Chris

Prof. Christopher S. Allen
Political Science Department
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602
Voice: (706) 542-2984   FAX: (706) 542-4421
Internet: CSALLEN@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 17:49:29 CET
From: <PLOCKYER@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: SPORA LUXEMBURG ?

Does anyone out there know anything about SPORA LUXEMBURG ?

I'm a Sheffield Wednesday fan living in Germany and would like to go and watch
the lads play at SPORA. Unfortunately, the Owls ticket office are only selling
tickets via package deal which includes travel from England. They either don't
know or won't give me any details over the phone about buying tickets on the
day.

Where is SPORA ? What is the ground capacity ? Is there any chance of getting
tickets on the day ?

Thanks in advance.

"Up the Owls" (to quote a famous Wednesdayite)

Paul.
Xref: sparky rec.sport.soccer:12479 soc.culture.spain:2943
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish International Fitba' Quiz
Keywords: Where was he?
Date: 10 Sep 92 08:22:07 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND

Clue: Apparently world class (that's world class in a Scottish sense), had a
      host of clubs trying to sign him when he was out of contract during the
      summer like em, em..... Did not play the second half of last nights
      defeat in Berne. One source on this net even suggested that any Rangers
      player couldn't lace his boots

Now let's start this discussion of the most over-rated player in Scotland....

-- 
 Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk  abuse  031-554-9424
 Spider Systems Limited     "...but Joe was to belie comparisons to all these
 Edinburry                   men and introduce a new concept to Scottish
 Scotland                    fitba' - a striker who could score a goal!!"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: yewhin@ecf.toronto.edu (YEW HIN Jimmy)
Subject: Re: taylor
Keywords: complete fart
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:27:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.200416.19937@maths.tcd.ie> dps@maths.tcd.ie (Padraic Murray) writes:
>
>taylor is crap he is the worst manager since souness
>you thought eoin hand was bad then there was taylor soon to give
>a rib tticklingly hilarious press conference
>they should just stick a mic up his bum and let him talk crap
>till he dies
>"i'm happy with our play" thats like saying you were happy
>you only got one knee kapped
>"i think we'd have won had they not kicked our arses"
>and arses they are every last one of them from Linekar to Seaman
>now there's a name seaman thats like being called wetdream
>
>what amazes me is how the brits can be happy with such a crap team
>they actually think they're good!!!!!!!
>its got a lot to do with those lickarses jimmy hill and trevor brooking
>those two are such piss-takers they say they're happy with the play
>and that england played well and should be a goalor two up when all
>they did was packed the defence and hoofed everything out
>the two boys must wet themselves laughing during the break thats why
>we only see chest upwards cos their trousers are dripping

Try some decaff man !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: S947607@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (Pavel Nikiforovitch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: SOVIET: Russian League table (final round) so far
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:38:37 GMT



**********************************************
* T e a m s  | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 *
**********************************************
* CSKA       |XXX|   |4:1|2:4|1:1|   |   |4:1*
* Moscow     |XXX|   |1:2|0:2|0:0|   |   |   *
*--------------------------------------------*
* Spartak    |   |XXX|   |   |   |2:0|1:0|5:1*
* Moscow     |   |XXX|   |   |1:0|0:0|0:0|1:1*
*--------------------------------------------*
* Dinamo     |2:1|   |XXX|3:1|0:0|1:1|   |   *
* Moscow     |1:4|   |XXX|0:0|0:2|   |   |   *
*--------------------------------------------*
* Spartak    |2:0|   |0:0|XXX|0:0|   |4:0|   *
* Vladikavkaz|4:2|   |1:3|XXX|3:0|   |   |   *
*--------------------------------------------*
* Lokomotiv  |0:0|0:1|2:0|0:3|XXX|   |   |   *
* Moscow     |1:1|   |0:0|0:0|XXX|   |   |   *
*--------------------------------------------*
* Rostselmash|   |0:0|   |   |   |XXX|0:0|0:1*
*Rostov-na-D.|   |0:2|1:1|   |   |XXX|1:1|0:1*
*--------------------------------------------*
* Lokomotiv  |   |0:0|   |   |   |1:1|XXX|2:1*
* Nizhny Nov.|   |0:1|   |0:4|   |0:0|XXX|0:0*
*--------------------------------------------*
* Asmaral    |   |1:1|   |   |   |1:0|0:0|XXX*
* Moscow     |1:4|1:5|   |   |   |1:0|1:2|XXX*
**********************************************

                           Games  Goals  Points
1.Spartak Moscow             7    10:2    11
2.Spartak Vladikavkaz        7    11:5    10
3.Dinamo Moscow              7     7:9     7
4.CSKA Moscow                7    12:9     6
5.Lokomotiv Moscow           7     3:5     6
6.Lokomotiv Nizhny Novgorod  7     3:7     6
7.Asmaral Moscow             7     5:12    6
8.Rostselmash Rostov-na-Donu 7     2:6     4
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From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Subject: Greek First Division results
Keywords: games played on Sun 6th Sept
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 01:29:35 GMT

I know they're a bit late but here's the results from the opening
day of the Greek First Division.

Round 1, games played on Sunday 6th Sept:

Olympiakos - Iraklis   1-0
PAOK - Panahaiki       3-0
AEK - Aris             1-0
Panathinaikos - OFI    3-1 
Doksa - Apollon        2-0 
Athinaikos - Korinthos 0-0
Ksanthi - Larisa       0-0
Kalamaria - Edessaikos 2-2
Ionikos - Pierikos     2-2


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From: Juergen.Schaepker@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Juergen Schaepker)
Subject: Germany, DFB-Pokal 2nd round (Friday)
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:46:12 GMT

Hi there !

This weekend it's cup-time in germany. This is a complete list of
all matches in the 2nd round:

1.Bundesliga vs 1.Bundesliga

Karlsruher SC      - Hamburger SV       4:2
Leverkusen         - 1.FC K'lautern
Borussia Dortmund  - Bayern Muenchen

2.Bundesliga vs 1.Bundesliga

MSV Duisburg       - 1.FC Koeln         4:3 after pensalty shooting (0:0,0:0)
VfL Bochum         - Hannover 96        1:2 (like last year !)
FC St.Pauli        - 1.FC Nuernberg
Dynamo Dresden     - VfB Leipzig
Hansa Rostock      - VfB Stuttgart
Carl Zeiss Jena    - 1.FC Saarbruecken

Amateurs vs 1.Bundesliga

RW Erfurt          - Bayer Uerdingen
SC Bamberg         - Eintracht Frankfurt
Werder Bremen Amat.- Bor. M'gladbach
Spvgg Beckum       - Werder Bremen
RW Essen           - Schalke 04

2.Bundesliga vs 2.Bundesliga

Fortuna Koeln      - SV Meppen         0:1  (yeah !)
Stuttg. Kickers    - Chemnitzer FC
FC Remscheid       - Darmstadt 98
SC Freiburg        - Hertha BSC Berlin

Amateurs vs 2. Bundesliga

Vikt. Aschaffenburg- VfL Osnabrueck    0:6
Bischofswerda      - VfB Oldenburg
Freiburger FC      - Mainz 05
Wormatia Worms     - Fort. Duesseldorf
Eisenhuttenstadt   - Wuppertaler SV
Spvgg Bad Homburg  - Eintr. Braunschweig
VfR Aalen          - FC Homburg
RW Frankfurt       - Waldhof Mannheim

Amateurs vs Amateurs

SF Ricklingen      - SC Verl
SSV Ulm 46         - Neubrandenburg
Spvgg Plattling    - Jahn Regensburg
TuS Hoppstaedten   - VfR Heilbronn
Hertha BSC Amat.   - SGK Heidelberg
Altmark Stendal    - FSV Salmrohr


Highlight of the day of course

BVB Dortmund vs Bayern Muenchen

Possible line-ups:

Dortmund:        Klos
		Reuter
	   Kutowski  Schmidt
     Zelic     Zorc      Reinhardt
	 Povlsen   Poschner
	   Mill   Chapuisat

Bayern:         Aumann
		 Thon
	  Kreuzer   Helmer
 Jorginho     Wouters     Ziege
	Schupp     Scholl
	Mazinho  Labbadia


Fist game for Helmer in Dortmund after his transfer - pressure will be
high for him, aggressive crowd will be against the "teuerster Manndecker
der Liga " (Michael Schulz about Helmer, 8 Mio. transfer fee).

My tip :    BVB 3:1 Bayern

CU later ...
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Spanish fixtures for November
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:46:11 GMT

--

I'm planning a trip to Ireland's World Cup qualifier in Seville on Nov 18th.
At the moment it looks like the cheapest and best way to go is to fly to
Malaga for a week.  I'd like to see a Spanish match as well as the
International and U21 game.  I have fixtures for the spanish league but
there are no games the weekend before the International.  Are there any second division games in the Malaga region?  (weekend 14/15 Nov).  If so are they
on Saturday or Sunday?  Are there any games in the region on Saturday
November 21st.  I won't be able to stay for a game on Sunday November 22nd.

We plan to hire a car so we could travel to a game.

Any help/advice would be much appreciated?

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          U.S.A. here we come

          God thinks he's Jackie Charlton

       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

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From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Athlone Town
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:37:16 GMT

--
In article <m.g.smyth-140992090612@co_mgate_s_if3_mac12.lut.ac.uk>, m.g.smyth@uk.ac.lut (Michael Smyth) writes:

|>I've just noticed the demise of Athlone Town from the League of Ireland,
|>can someone explain the reason.

Athlone were relegated to the first division last season.  The first
division doesn't start until October.  Athlone are currently involved in
the shield but are struggling - lost 5-0 at home to Longford and 1-0 at
Monaghan.  The club are currently in financial trouble but are still
surviving.  I hope they do bounce back as for a long time the were the
lone standard bearer for football in the midlands.  It's less than 10 years
since they last won the title.

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          U.S.A. here we come

          God thinks he's Jackie Charlton

       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

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From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Australia: name changes enforced?
Date: 9 Sep 1992 08:35:28 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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I can't see why Sydney Olympic's name should be questionized, there are lots
of Olympics over the world and they are not associated with Greece, are they?

Kent
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From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Subject: Re: NPSL franchise moves
Reply-To: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:44:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.094655.20603@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>These are tough questions. My personal opinion (having discussed the subject
>with a dozen US & Canadian soccer fans (and a few who hate the sport!) over 
>the years) is that there is a place for soccer, but that a new pro league
>would have to have extremely patient and determined owners and be run by
>competent people. It's a shame that the projected Pan American soccer league
>never got off the ground. In 1989, the leading clubs from Brazil, Argentina,
>Uruguay and Paraguay were discussing a new pro league to improve standards of
>play and attract larger crowds to their games. In an ideal world, cities like 
>Toronto, New York, LA and San Francisco would have teams in such a league.
>There are certainly more than enough local players for this sort of thing,
>fan support should be no problem (this depends on the quality of the 
>visiting teams of course) and the cities mentioned above all have outdoor 
>stadiums suitable for soccer. Didn't the San Francisco Bay Blackhawks sell out
>(24000 people) when playing the Mexican champions in the CONCACAF
>club champions' semifinal? Perhaps USSF should start lobbying for a
>"World League of Association Football:-)"  
>
Indeed, the Blackhawks did have that crowd for their game against
America. However, almost all of them were supporting the Mexican team!
With the current predicament of the APSL, this has led many people to
suggest that the best bet for the Blackhawks would be to apply for
admission to the Mexican League.

--
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"And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
 highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Scotland in Europe
Date: 13 Sep 92 13:05:26 GMT
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association

cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:

>>Danish football has increased its standard: yes. Lyngby has: no. It's
>>almost pathetic to see the performance of the Danish champions this
>>year. Perhaps we can finally get rid of them in the best division.

>>  2-0, 1-1

>>More like 3-0,1-0 (as seen from the side of Rangers).

>Hope this is not one of those Danish cover ups like they pulled in the
>European Championships. Seriously, how bad are Lyngby ??

How does 5 points in 7 games sound? 2 of those was earned in a lucky
2-1 home win against abysmal bad and relegation candidate number 1,
B1909. The other 3 was draws. They lack offensive power and plays
with little spirit. They are currently in a 3 team group hanging out
around the relegation line.

Rangers has a much better form at the moment (judging from the latest
results).
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rorschak@daimi.aau.dk |
      Glasgow Rangers - AC Milan - FC Barcelona
From: t8914229@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: GRAEME SOUNESS'S MANY MISTAKES
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:58:48 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

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