From: spielman@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Terence P. Spielman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.games
Subject: Re: MM4; Clouds of Xeen HELP
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:59:09 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct5.152603.20741@sae.com> kdk@sae.com (David Kiker) writes:
>Hi. I just purchased and started playing Might and
>Magic: Clouds of Xeen. I have never played a M&M
>game so general advice not covered in the sketchy
>manual would be of help. For example, what is the
>relationship with previous stories? Did they have
>the 5 previous mirrors? This one talks about the 
>sixth mirror.
>
Each town has a mirror.  I have only played one previous Might and Magic, 
3, the last one.  The mirrors acted identically in that game.  AT the mirrors
you can say a destination to travel to.  In MM3, you had to walk to the
town first so that you could find its mirror-name.  However, in Xeen, the
mirror-name is the name of the town on the map.  Anyway, there's no 
history about the first 5 mirrors as  far as I know.  Finding the 6th 
(portable) mirror is one of the quests in Xeen.

Here's some important advice.  If the square you are standing on is
occupied by some object, hit <space> or click on it with the mouse.
This will activate theobject.  For example, this will let you converse
with people in tents, at altars, at pedestals, at podiums, drink from
wells, talk to people at bar tables, etc...  NOTE:  Just because you don't
see a person at a podium/altar/seat/etc doesn't mean that there nobody there.

>One specific question:
>
>How do you become a member of a guild? This seems
>necessary to get spells, but there is no indication
>of how to become a member that I have seen. Have I
>missed something? Do I just need to play longer?

You missed something.  SOmewhere in 
ertigo there is a person who will sell you guild membership.
You need to do this in each town that has a guild.>

>Comments:
>
>I am enjoying the game so far. It seems your standard
>hack and slash RPG though. The best thing about it is
>the very easy to use interface. It amazes me the number
>of companies that making playing their games WORK. I like
>the automapping and auto notekeeping. However, one serious
>flaw is that the maps the game makes will only show you a
>short area around where you are standing. I should be able
>to examine any location on any map. It is also not very
>easy to see areas you have not explored on the map. (Not
>explored areas and not explorable areas look the same.)
>The automapping in Ultima Underworld was MUCH better.

Last comment:  There is no difference between unexplored areas and
unexplorable areas because there's no such thing as an unexplorabe area
in Might and Magic.  If you can't cross mountainsm it's beacuse at least 2 of
your characters need the Mountaineering skill (Rivercity, minor spoiler :-).
For swimming...all 6 need to swim (again in Rivercity).  And to go through
woods you need navigation. (I think this one was in vertigo).

Good luck!!

Oh yeah, while I was doing the Golem dungeon I found that I kept using all
my gems.  Hence...hack time!  I found the 2 offsets in the save file that
correspond to PARTY GOLD and PARTY GEMS.  So if anybody want this info,
let me know.

Terence
spielman@pender.ee.upenn.edu

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