HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: AREXX NewsReader/Mail/Editor
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52
Keywords: REXX readers news mail
Summary: I've done some of these things.
Date: 15 Aug 92 02:47:21 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <1992Aug13.063508.1439@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umkhawaj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Tahir Z. Khawaja) wrote:
> 
> Hello,                                                                    
>                                                                           
>         Just a question for you AREXX gurus out there.  Has any one of you
> ever even remotely looked into making a NewsReader, MailReader, and Editor
> in AREXX????                                                              

Yes. I gave it some hard thought. You might claim that my mailreader
is written in Rexx; there's a Rexx script that loads mail into a
hypertext engine (and yes, it looks for Reply-To: and creates links
between messages), a collection of macros for that application that
let me do the standard mail things, and a fast-menu that puts the
obvious things under the mouse (if only the app in question let me use
things other than function keys.). This was modelled after a BIX
blinker I wrote years ago.

I thought about doing the same for a news reader, but decided I wanted
another level that I didn't know how to write between news and the
hypertext engine, and wrote it in Scheme instead. That makes it easy
to twiddle the newsreader to try out those "other" things.

Eventually, it's all going to integrated.

Editor? In REXX?

>         I mean written an AREXX SCRIPT that might do one of the above.    

Well, what have you done? Share, man, share!

	<mike
Xref: sparky alt.sys.amiga.uucp:1940 alt.sys.amiga.uucp.patches:223
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: protocol failure
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:09:22 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

My newsfeed just got a v.32 modem, which is nice for me, since I was doing
my feed at 2400 baud for the last 2 years :)  However, when I connect to
the new modem, I am getting "protocol failure" messages from uucico and
uucico is quitting on me.  The errors are intermittent, but happen frequently
if I am just sending out a single small mail message - as when I send mail
to my feed's admin.  When I use -X999, uucico succeeds every time.  If there
is batched news waiting for me, uucico seems much more likely to succeed,
as well.

I am using error correction, etc.  Any suggestions would be welcome :)


--
Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
1124 Fremont Ave.
Los Altos, CA 94024
From: Ianm@gandalf.UUCP (Ian Moran)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Getty write failures
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:36:31 GMT
Organization: Private Amiga Site

I am getting the following error message in UULIB/LOGFILE

(08/13-17:25:29) Getty,-, Write Error 13

What does this mean?

I am using UUCP 1.16D which I believe is the latest version. Is it
necessary to BREAK the getty program when calling out?
--


Regards

  Ian

           //  Fidonet - Ian Moran @ 2:257/10.1 & 2:440/59.5"
         \X/            Usenet - ianm@icsbelf.uucp"
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:23:18 MDT
From: wuth@castrov.cuc.ab.ca (Brett Wuth)
Subject: Received id headers
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
It's been pointed out to me that the "Received:" header lines generated
by AmigaUUCP rmail/sendmail violate RFC 822.

The lines look like
  Received: by castrov.cuc.ab.ca (V1.15.19{info@castrov.UUCP/5}/Amiga)
      id AA01lwi; Sun, 2 Aug 92 17:06:14 MDT
but should be:
  Received: by castrov.cuc.ab.ca (V1.15.19{info@castrov.UUCP/5}/Amiga)
      id <01lwi@castrov.cuc.ab.ac>; Sun, 2 Aug 92 17:06:14 MDT

According to RFC 822, the 'id' tag should be followed by something in
the form of a msg-id:

src:RFC822.appendix
---------------------------------------8<-----------------------------------
[...]
            received    =  "Received"    ":"            ; one per relay
                              ["from" domain]           ; sending host
                              ["by"   domain]           ; receiving host
                              ["via"  atom]             ; physical path
                             *("with" atom)             ; link/mail protocol
                              ["id"   msg-id]           ; receiver msg id
                              ["for"  addr-spec]        ; initial form
                               ";"    date-time         ; time received

            domain      =  sub-domain *("." sub-domain)

            msg-id      =  "<" addr-spec ">"            ; Unique message id

            addr-spec   =  local-part "@" domain        ; global address
[...]
--------------------------------------->8-----------------------------------

I've seen several non-Amiga mailers use the 'id AAxxxxx' form.
Does anyone know where that form is documented (perhaps a later
RFC)?

RFC 822 says the 'id' tag is optional, and suggests that it could
be used to trace back the processing of a specific message.  Since
we never record the id anywhere (e.g. uuspool:logfile), I suggest
we just drop the 'id' tag altogether.

Cheers,
-- 
Brett Wuth  wuth@castrov.cuc.ab.ca BCWuth@uncamult.bitnet wuth@castrov.UUCP
U302, 3510 44St SW, Calgary, Alberta, T3E 3R9, CANADA  Tel: +1 403 242-0848
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
From: hansel@marvin.aero.org (Steve Hansel)
Subject: looking for a site near Rockford IL
Keywords: site, Rockford
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA 90245
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:09:20 GMT

Hello,  I am trying to set up an Amiga site in the Rockford, IL area.  I have
searched the usenet maps, unfortunately the three sites listed have either
shutdown or moved.

If you know of a site in the 815 area code with any of the following prefixs
please mail to me (hansel@aerospace.aero.org) and let me know.

prefixs:  266, 229, 282, 397-399, 633, 654, 877, 961-966, 968, 987


Thanks for any help.


	Steve

p.s. sorry for posting to the whole USA but I wasn't sure I could limit
distribution to IL when posting from CA.
From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re:  25-Jul-92 04:18 ResolveDest:DEFAULTS NOT FOUND!
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Aug 92 20:45:50 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <mykes.0agz@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>In article <mwm.1b45@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us> mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) writes:
>> I tried to use BMS after a disk crash & restore. I'm getting the
>> above. Am I SOL? Or is there a recovery mechanism that won't fry all
>> current connections?
>>
>>	Thanx,
>>	<mike
>
>Good thing you did file-by-file backup ! :)

    Nope.  This is a bug.  Normally you could run bms cleanup but if the
    default entry has been screwed up your dead in the water.

    What I really need to do is add an auto-reconnect sequence.  You can
    re-register nodes and that will work just fine (or should...), but it
    will not occur automatically.

				-Matt

>--
>Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
>Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
>Mike Schwartz	(ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
>1124 Fremont Ave.
>Los Altos, CA 94024
>

--

    Matthew Dillon	    dillon@Overload.Berkeley.CA.US
    891 Regal Rd.	    uunet.uu.net!overload!dillon
    Berkeley, Ca. 94708     ham: KC6LVW (no mail drop)
    USA
From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Something different for BMS
Summary: Volume 1 of The DeskTop Library available for BMS.
Keywords: BMS library CDROM
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:53:25 GMT
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52

I've just made the Walnut Creek DeskTop Library CDROM available for
BMS. This includes over 1000 seperate works, including things from the
ancient greeks to Yeats. The text of all publicly available RFCs at
the time it was pressed are on it, as well as the jargon file and
other "computer" documentation.

The description is currently in bms:pub/CD-DeskTopLibrary.

	<mike
From: overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Remote Login
Keywords: 
Distribution: world
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:07:51 EST
Organization: None

	I was looking through the UUCP documentation and found a
reference to a line which can be inserted into the passwd file in UULIB:
The line to be inserted is as follows:

#		REMOTE SHELL STARTUP
#
#	You can cause Getty to start up a remote CLI with the following
#	entry:

<login>,<password>,<gid-dummy>,0,(AuxShell),ram:,execute uucp:sc/UUShell

#	where uucp:sc/UUShell is a simple script file.


	Well I found the file UUShell in the SC directory of the UUCP
distribution disk and tried it out.  I can log into my computer without
any trouble.  But after a few seconds on my system, getty tries to take
controll of the port again.  These are the errors which getty places in
the LOGFILE.

(08/16-21:28:20) Getty,-,remote login remote                                    
(08/16-21:28:20) Getty,-,remote Execute execute >null: <null: uucp:c/UUShell                                                                                
(08/16-21:33:31) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:33:37) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:33:37) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:33:42) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:33:42) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:33:47) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:33:47) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:33:52) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:33:52) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:33:58) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:33:58) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:34:03) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1
(08/16-21:34:03) Getty,-,remote SetParams Error 1


	As you can see getty it trying to do something while I am still
online.  Once I hang up, Getty fails to initialize the serial port
properly and the system hangs because the serial line is still tied up.
Is this because it is no longer possible to perform remote logins with
1.16?  Is anyone out there doing so with Version 1.16?  Any help either
by Mail or posted here would be greatly appreciated.  Thank you. :-)

Carlos
--

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%    __     %  UUCP:  overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us  % I Tried MS-DOS Once %
% __///     %  Fido:  1:135/92                       % But Didn't Inhale.  %
% \\//Amiga %  GEnie: C.Amezaga                      %        --D.Atkins-- %
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: fifo.library (was Re: AMIGAUUCP TAKEOVER)
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:44:43 EDT
Organization: Private UUCP Node

Are you going to release the sources for fifo.library? and etc....
--
  //   Michael B. Smith
\X/    mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us  -or-  uunet.uu.net!virginia.edu!adastra!mbs
From: hugh@kink.PhaedraV.On.Ca (Hugh D. Gamble)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Amiga UUCP and C-News
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 03:05:02 EST
Organization: Phaedra V

In article <Krzysztof.061j@netxsys.guild.org>, Krzysztof Adamski writes:

> I had the same problem when I started getting news from a site that used C-news

That was mine, which is running CNEWS under AmigaOS.

> what was done was to make cnews add the #! cunbatch line as the first line

Which is supported by CNEWS in order to support obsolete sites that
cannot accept standard batched news format.

> of the batch file (after the file was compressed). Also it would be very simple
> to modify the rnews.c for it to do decompression if it does not find the #!
> line in the begining of a batch file (at the time of my problem I didn't have
> the source, so I couldn't do it my self).

I do, but there are so many things that the news s/w that comes with
DUUCP are substandard in that I don't use it.  There are a lot of
other things that would be more important to fix up. As long as anyone
running the duucp news s/w knows they have to ask their feeds to add a
#! cunbatch header to their batches, news will unbatch just fine.

I want to see a proper port of CNEWS using Markus Wild's ixemlib and
pdksh port enough to actually do it myself one of these days.

-- 
# Hugh D. Gamble  UUCP: hugh@kink.UUCP  Domain: hugh@kink.PhaedraV.On.Ca      %
# AMIX: HGAMBLE  bix: hgamble  voice: +1 416 267 6159                         %
# "My Canada includes all of usenet, even the naughty bits."                  %
Xref: sparky alt.sys.amiga.uucp:1925 alt.sys.amiga.uucp.patches:221
From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: Amiga UUCP and C-News
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 3.4, 1992/08/12 15:49:52
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 23 Aug 92 09:34:34 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <mbs.0vva@adastra.cvl.va.us>, mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith) wrote:
> However, if there are ways in which AmigaUUCP doesn't communicate properly
> with the outside world, using C-News as the standard base, I think I
> would agree that AmigaUUCP should be modified.

It doesn't support all of RFC-1036; specifically 3., control messages.
Cancel and newgroup are biggies. It also fails to check the path
header before retransmitting news.

Keeping a history and/or active file would also be nice, but doesn't
change how it communicates with the outside world.

My feeling is that the Dnews system is acceptable for a leaf site, and
the extra overhead of CNews isn't worth what it buys you.

However, if you're forwarding news to other people, not checking the
path means your news graph must be acyclic, which is a pain. Not
having a history or active file means it must be a tree. Worse, it also
means that if a news system hiccups and processes a batch twice,
everybody downstream of you sees it. The overhead of CNews is worth
it to eliminate those problems.

	<mike
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: AMIGAUUCP TAKEOVER
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 15 Aug 92 23:10:44 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <dillon.0lh9@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> by dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon):

>     The big question is .... who wants it?  We need an official keeper to
>     coordinate the work and maintain the TODO/enhancement lists and master
>     sources.

    You can tack me onto the list of volunteers.

> 					-Matt
--
*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
From: Steve@celeborn.lvunix.com (Steve Slade)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: MouseTime
Distribution: na
Date: 16 Aug 92 00:58:04 PST
Organization: Not even Close

In the crontab example that comes with AmigaUUCP1.16D there's a refrence
to a program called mousetime.  Does anyone know what exactly does it do? (is
it a program that calles the navy's atomic clock?) and where I can get it.  
I searched the fred fish aquarium and could not find it listed.  Email
responses to sslade@netcom as I can't get mail sent to my amiga as of yet.

>#   S:CRONTAB
>#
>#min	hr	day	mon	dow	command
>#   adjust time every 24 hours.. keep us in line
>#0	 0	 *	 *	 *	 dhb:altc/mousetime



--

Steve Slade

Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
From: umkhawaj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Tahir Z. Khawaja)
Subject: AREXX NewsReader/Mail/Editor
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:35:08 GMT


Hello,                                                                    
                                                                          
        Just a question for you AREXX gurus out there.  Has any one of you
ever even remotely looked into making a NewsReader, MailReader, and Editor
in AREXX????                                                              
                                                                          
        I mean written an AREXX SCRIPT that might do one of the above.    
                                                                          
I would like any info you might be able to provide me.                    
                                                                          
BYE                                                                       
                                                                          
PS:send mail to survivor@hoftai.bison.mb.ca                               
PSS:send files to umkhawaj@ccu.umanitoba.ca
-- 
Tahirs' .sig					|	PERFORMANCE/DOLLAR
						|     For  The  Little  User
I have not got,  vhat I do not vant.		|	      AMIGA
I do not vant,  vhat I have not got.		|	      RULES
From: joel@crpi.UUCP (Joel C. Justen)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: CNews strangeness
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:58:22 EST
Organization: Crazyrat Software Productions
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2


I have a question for those of you who run CNews-Amiga with your UUCP.

I've noticed that when a "newgroup" message comes along to my site that
the group 1) isn't created, and 2) the header of the newgroup message is
intertwined within my active file!  Just junked in there along with the
newgroup name..  Has anyone else had this problem?

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     /// Joel C. Justen                |    UUNET:  uunet!coplex.com!crpi!joel
\\\ ///  System Administrator          |    BITNET: jcjust01@ulkyvx.BITNET
 \XXX/   Crazyrat Software Productions |    UUCP:   joel@crpi.UUCP
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
flames <NIL: >NIL: | "This is *MY* damn amiga and I'll say what I want to say!"
From: salnick@dejavu.spk.wa.us (There is no substitute for displacement...)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: pjohnson @ jabba.stss.org
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:54:42 GMT
Organization: Not Organized

Sir -

I cannot respond via mail - you address bounces from here.  Without using 
too much bandwidth, I cannot duplicate you problem with the file you sent

bob
--
RW Salnick, Spokane,WA  |  Home: salnick@dejavu.spk.wa.us
  Amiga 1000, WB 1.3    |  Work: mfgsys!salnick@kaiser.spk.wa.us
      WA9BVE            |
From: Leon@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Leon)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Re: Need info on UUCP, amiganos, NNTP, etc
Distribution: world
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:55:20 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

In a message dated Thu 20 Aug 92  9:23, Ree88132@zach.fit.edu (keith Ledig)
wrote:

 RL> I would like to set up usenet news feeds and e-mail on my BBS but
 RL> are not sure how to go about doing it.  I am temporarily running
 RL> ami-express, but may switch over to Tempest or DLG pro.  I would
 RL> like good BBS software that will be easy to run from sysop end
 RL> as well as enjoyable from the user standpoint. [...]

DLG Pro BB/OS is excellent BBS software that is easy tor run from the sysop
end as well as enjoyable from the user standpoint.

It interfaces with Matt Dillon's UUCP for e-mail and news...  In addition
to UUCP support, you also get everything you need to be a FidoNet node... 
It's really a very slick package (DLG, DLGMail, TrapDoor)...

 RL> [...] What is NNTP and
 RL> amiganos?  I have heard of Dillons' UUCP.  What is the latest
 RL> version of it?  Where can I find these programs?  Which one
 RL> would you suggest?  I would like to possibly run it from a door.

AmigaNOS is a port of a program that will allow you to telnet/ftp/etc. over
a serial port...  I have never been able to find ANY documentation on the
package, so I couldn't even test it out...  The latest release of Dillon's
UUCP I have seen is 1.16D...  It's available for ftp, but I couldn't find
the site...  You can download it from my BBS (16K8 HST / 14K4 V.32) at
(906) 482-8050 . . .

Under DLG, News groups appear as message areas along with the other message
areas...  And if e-mail is accessed through the user's private message
area...

Feel free to call my system and check it out...

\Leon

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

______________________________________________________________________
|  o__ ----       \\ABCD///Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch - DLG BB/OS!
| _.>/ _-------    \\BBS// 16K8bps - 3 Lines! - Fido/UUCP(906)482-8248
|(_) \(_)Leon Shaner\\\// <leon@abcd.houghton.mi.us> or <leon@mtu.edu>
|________[MTU - CTS] \\/  ...Non-Conformity is a virtue I hold dear...
From: Ianm@gandalf.UUCP (Ian Moran)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: Amiga UUCP and C-News
Date: 14 Aug 92 07:52:51 GMT
Organization: Private Amiga Site


I am having a number of problems with a news feed between my Amiga running
UUCP V1.16D and C-News on an RS6000 running AIX. I can't decide what end
the problem lies so please forgive me in advance if some of this is off
topic.

The version of Rnews supplied with the UUCP distribution for the Amiga
cannot handle the compressed batched news packets produced by the C-News
sendbatches software. What happens is that all the batches end up in the
'junk' newsgroup as incrementing batch numbers. I can run Amiga uncompress
on these files and sucessfully de-compress so I don't think compression is
the problem. I will end up with a very large news batch which can be loaded
into an editor and read - not very convenient.
If I configure the C-News batchparms file to not use compression or
batching then the articles are sent one at a time and end up in the correct
newsgroups on the Amiga. This takes however far to long. Has anyone
sucessfully set up a feed to a C-News site using Amiga UUCP, if so how
should both ends be configured to work properly. I feel I am nearly there,
and possibly it has nothing to do with the Amiga end. I have tried various
flags in the C-News 'sys' file for my site (ie :f:) and also tried
altering the batchparms file to use a different compression (comp &
compcun). Any ideas please?

I have also noticed that Dnews does not display the last line of an
article, which quite often display the internet address, is this a bug?

I am using a 5Mb Amiga 2000, running WB2, arq, assignx, virus-checker.
Is there a FAQ available for this group?


--


Regards

  Ian

           //  Fidonet - Ian Moran @ 2:257/10.1 & 2:440/59.5"
         \X/            Usenet - ianm@icsbelf.uucp"
Return-Path: <hribnak@dlgsys.cuc.ab.ca>
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:09:09 MST
From: uunet!nucleus.cuc.ab.ca!hribnak@uunet.UU.NET (Jim Hribnak)
Subject: SendMail sourse
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Can I get the sendmail source for UUCP 115 Please..  I havent upgraded to the
latest yet.


Or anyone in the .CUC.AB.CA domain running on an Amiga PLEASE send me your
modified sendmail binary/source   My feedsite has problems with the very FIRST
FROM line as the Matt's uucp doesnt add the domain, and when these email
messages pass through DLGSYS.CUC.AB.CA it tacks his domain on there..

Please Help