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From: shrivast@cs.pitt.edu (Nimboneous)
Newsgroups: pa.wanted
Subject: Wanted - Tickets to Pitt sponsored Jazz concert (sat)
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:13:33 GMT
Distribution: pgh
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

Hi all,

I am looking for three tickets to the jazz concert sponsored
by Univ. Of Pittsburgh this saturday. I will even settle for
two.

thanks

Nimish

Newsgroups: psu.market.forsale,pa.forsale,phl.forsale,misc.forsale
From: hickson@pop.psu.edu (Darryl Hickson)
Subject: DJ/Musical Equipment, CDs & Books For Sale
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 18:59:09 GMT

I have a few things to sell. All items are in great condition. All
prices include shipping. If you have any questions contact me by
E-Mail.

DJ Equipment
=====================================================================
10 Space Amp Rack w/stand
   (4 months old, hardly used, Paid $225)                        $190
(3) 2-Space rack shelves                                     $25 each
Mixer Case                                                        $90
Gemini PL-7 power controller (with 2 pull out lights)             $75
American DJ Supply 8 switch controller                            $30
                                                                     

Miscellaneous
=====================================================================
Maxell HP-1000 Headphones                                         $10


Compact Discs (All CDs are $7 each except where noted)
=====================================================================
Commodores              All The Great Love Songs
Seduction               Nothing Matters Without Love
Terminator X            The Valley Of The Jeep Beets
Vesta                   Special
Warren Zevon            A Quiet Normal Life
Yo Yo                   Make Way For The Motherlode


Books (Each book is priced as marked)
=====================================================================
1. Microcomputers For Management       P. Fuhrman & G. Buck       $10
     Decison Making (1st Edition)
2. Statistics: A fresh Approach        D. Sanders, R. Eng &       $7
                                         A. Murph
3. Quantitative Approaches to          R. Levin, D. Rubin &       $10
     Management                          J. Stinson
From: jghst8@cislabs.pitt.edu (Joseph   G Hicks)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: Excellent Car for Sale
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:54:40 GMT
Distribution: pa.forsale,misc.forsale
Organization: University of Pittsburgh



*******  Excellent car for sale *********

1989 Ford Escort LX
Automatic Transmission
Power Brakes
Power Steering
Four Door (plus hatchback)
32,000 miles
AM/FM stereo
Still under warranty
excellent condition
Well maintained

$4950 or best offer

Call 412-683-3702 or 412-793-9540

You can reply to this account.
jghst8+@pitt.edu

Newsgroups: pa.forsale
From: myers@cornflower.crayola.cs.psu.edu (Joseph F Myers)
Subject: Macintosy Great Deal!!
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Distribution: all
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 04:12:22 GMT


!!!MUST SELL!!!

Reply to Joe at 8625524
or    to myers@crayola.cs.psu.edu


MUST SELL!

8 megs ram
Applecolor 13" RGB monitor
Extended keyboard
80meg HD
Internal Superdrive
Mac Recorder Sound System
NEC cdr-36(upgraded to 37) 150kb/s sustained data transfer rate CD-ROM
w/ 10 CDs
Security cabeling system
Kurts is/abd 12x12 graphics tablet w/ stylus and cordless mouse
Thunderscanner grayscale scanner W/ protective case
****Give Me your best offer, and We'll talk****($2950?)or B/O



CD's include:
		CD-7 super library
		Mega Rom
		Sherlock Holmes consulting detective
		Complete works sherlock holmes
		Complete works shakepere
		Audobons Mamals-pictures,sound,text
		Birds of america-pictures,sound,text
		CD fun house
		Software Toolworks world atlas
		Software Toolworks Illustrated Encyclopedia
		Type Gallery PS NEC (two free familys not chosen)
		The time table of history , science and innovation

Replies:
   myers@crayola.cs.psu.edu
   or call my machine (814)862-5524

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From: paul@n3eop.pgh.pa.us (paul)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,psu.market.forsale,phl.forsale
Subject: Re: 486sx,386sx,8086, misc cards for sale
Date: 4 Nov 92 00:08:34 GMT
Organization: CrossRoads in Elizabeth, PA

JRA102@psuvm.psu.edu (Jim Achuff) writes:

> AST Sixpack - no docs, software for AST Superpak, loaded with RAM.
> includes serial, parallel, clock/calendar. All cables incl.
> $25

Is this for an XT or AT?
From: ejbst4+@pitt.edu (Ethan J Benatan)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: Free kitchen table and chairs !!!
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:04:31 GMT
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

** Posted for a friend: 

A free kitchen table and two chairs in worn but decent condition
are available in Wilkinsburg (just outside of Pittsburgh).  Please 
call 731-9585 and leave a message when you would like to come get
them.

(Please do not respond to this account.)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:11:40 EST
From: <PXM7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject:    motorcycle for sale


+====================================+
+           **********               +
+           *FOR SALE*               +
+           **********               +
+    SILVER 1980 CB750F SUPER SPORT  +
+                                    +
+   RACING HANDLE BARS, FOUR IN ONE  +
+                                    +
+    PIPE.  LOVES TO HOWL AND STILL  +
+                                    +
+    QUICK. POWER BAND 5000-8000 RPM +
+                                    +
+   CLOSE TO 90 HORSES. PLENTY OF    +
+                                    +
+  TORQUE IF YOU LIKE TO BURN RUBBER.+
+                                    +
+  GET IT BEFORE THE SPRING DEMAND   +
+                                    +
+  BOOSTS THE PRICE.                 +
+                                    +
+  PRICE: ASKING A BARGAIN $750.00   +
+                                    +
+  REPLY: (814) 867 7231             +
+         OR                         +
+  PXM7@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                +
+====================================+
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From: baker@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (The Return of Gunga Din)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,upenn.forsale,misc.forsale
Subject: FOR SALE
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:39:21 GMT
Followup-To: pa.forsale
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I HAVE THE FOLLOWING TWO THINGS FOR SALE.

I AM NOW RESORTING TO BEST OFFERS FOR EACH.

Respond to baker@eniac.seas.upenn.edu


Philco 15" color TV
	approx. 4-5 years old
	very good condition
	monitor emulation capability



386/DX33 computer (tower case)
	all computer necessities come with (ie drives,modem,monitor,mouse,etc.)
 	lots of software
	+ CANON BubbjeJet Printer if interested
	(for details send email)
From: mcshane@ccat.sas.upenn.edu (Michael McShane)
Newsgroups: upenn.forsale,pa.forsale
Subject: wanted: halogen lamp
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:54:47 GMT
Followup-To: upenn.forsale
Distribution: pa
Organization: School of Arts and Sciences, UPENN
 I would like to purchase a used halogen lamp to light my living room


 If you can help, please either call me, Michael Mcshane, (215)747-8050,
or e-mail to mcshane@ccat.sas.upenn.edu

Thanks.

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From: jmgst26+@pitt.edu (Joseph M Goodwin)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale,rec.music.makers,alt.guitar,misc.forsale,rec.music.marketplace
Subject: Peavey Mace guitar amp for sale
Date: 8 Nov 92 02:13:43 GMT
Followup-To: pa.forsale
Distribution: pa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jmgst26@unixd1.cis.pitt.edu

Features, 

160 watts
Four inputs, normal, channel combine, lo gain, high gain, all footswitchable
Footswitch controls channels, reverb, and phase shifter.
2 X 12 Black Widow speakers.

Normal channel has treble and bass controls, effects channel also has mid
Effects channel has phase shifter.
Both channels have pre/post gain
Solid state preamp, tube power amp (VERY LOUD).
Nice for Bluesy/Edge distortion sounds

Asking $250, or best offer

Mike
(412)361-4241
From: shs1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Shirley H. Sutton)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: \*\*\*\*\* C O R V A I R \*\*\*\*\*
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:57:37 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Great for corvair enthusiastics!!! Great condition--66 Corvair coupe.  Black
interior, bronze exterior.  110, four speed stick, bucket seats, tint windshield,
amd positraction.  Has been in classic tags since 79; 76000 miles.  Moving to
Florida and can't take it along.  Respond via e-mail or evenings at 346-7333.
-- 

Shirley Sutton (8-3990)

194 LUCC, 8-B Packer Avenue
Bethlehem, PA 18015

shs1@lehigh.edu
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: Gift Certificate For Sale
Date: 7 Nov 92 12:50:30 GMT
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu

Hi,

	I have gift certificate I'd like to sell.  The certificate is
to Bailey, Banks, and Biddle for $975.  I am asking $725, but I will
consider any serious offers.

Rob
--
Rob Yang (Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A) RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon) "It hisses on snakes."   AMA 642916   DoD 0593
'79 XT500 (The Bitch)        '90 Plymouth Laser RS (Sweetie)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:29:29 EST
From: <PXM7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject:    motorcycle for sale

+====================================+
+           **********               +
+           *FOR SALE*               +
+           **********               +
+    SILVER 1980 CB750F SUPER SPORT  +
+                                    +
+   RACING HANDLE BARS, FOUR IN ONE  +
+                                    +
+    PIPE.  LOVES TO HOWL AND STILL  +
+                                    +
+    QUICK.                          +
+                                    +
+                                    +
+  PRICE: ASKING A BARGAIN $750.00   +
+                                    +
+  REPLY: (814) 867 7231             +
+         OR                         +
+  PXM7@PSUVM.PSU.EDU                +
+====================================+
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
From: Glenn Stauffer <stauffer@cc.swarthmore.edu>
Subject: NEC Spinwriter 35-50 Printer
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A726D37F6703432F@stauffer.swarthmore.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 11 Nov 92 20:13:03 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College Computing Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:13:05 GMT

For Sale:

1 NEC 35-50 Spin-Writer printer

This printer has been stored since new (3 - 5 years).  It was purchased
for a specific business application and was not used because changes in
the system configuration required the use of laser printers.   The
printer is being sold "as is" - no paper feeder, no manuals, and only the
standard print wheel (cup).

All reasonable offers will be considered for this printer which was
originally worth $3000.

To make an offer, contact:

Glenn Stauffer
Swarthmore College Computing Center

stauffer@cc.swarthmore.edu

- or -

215-328-8654 (please don't call if you can send email)
From: shs1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Shirley H. Sutton)
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: >>>>>>> House FORSALE, Lehigh Valley area, PA<<<<<<<
Date: 10 Nov 92 14:59:56 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Ranch style, three bedroom house for sale.  Located 10min from Hellertown exit
of I 78.  Situated in woods, upper northwest Bucks County, 1/2 mile off Rt.
412.  If interested, respond via e-mail or evenings 346-7333.
-- 

Shirley Sutton (8-3990)

194 LUCC, 8-B Packer Avenue
Bethlehem, PA 18015

shs1@lehigh.edu
From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will) 
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject: FULLY LOADED MERCEDES!!!
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: john.will@satalink.com (John Will) 

TO: george1@cbnewsk.cb.att.com
M >Here is a chance to lease the ultimate luxury car!!
M >I have a fully loaded top of the line Mercedes that
M >you can take over the balance of the lease with only
M >two years left.

You sure left out a lot of details, like the SPECIFIC model of the car,
and what the terms at the end of the lease were.
---
 . KingQWK 1.05 # 97 . I can't use Windows.  My cat ate my mouse.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:32:10 EST
From: <RWS113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: pa.forsale
Subject:    BROWNING COMPOUND BOW FOR SALE

BROWNING BUSHMASTER DELUXE 29-32" DRAW, 45-70#
USED TWO SEASONS EXCELLENT CONDITION. GREAT IN TIGHT POSITIONS ONLY 46".  $90

Send E-Mail                           RWS113@psuvm.psu.edu
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From: grundy@rtf.bt.co.uk (Martin Grundy)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,comp.protocols.misc
Subject: Specs for zmodem and OFTP anyone ?
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:51:08 GMT
Organization: BT Customer Systems, Brighton, UK

I need specs or any other information available on zmodem and Odette File
Transfer Protocol (OFTP) which are I believe, (please correct me if I am
wrong), both in the public domain.

If anyone can point me to an ftp site or other references, I would
be very grateful.

TIA, Martin.
-- 
--
Martin Grundy                     |  email: grundy@rtf.bt.co.uk
British Telecom Customer Systems  |
Hyperion House                    |  phone: +44 273 762105
96-99 Queens Road                 |  fax:   +44 273 722038
Brighton BN1 3XF.                 |
From: G.Joly@cs.ucl.ac.uk (Gordon Joly)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Satellite Dishes
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:17:10 GMT

Jonathan Egre' writes:
 > tbrann@black.ox.ac.uk (Tony Brannigan) writes:
 > 
 > > Hi,
 > >    in Oxford there are a lot of listed buildings with people living in
 > > them, but because they are listed, we aren't allowed to put a satellite
 > > dishe on the roof.  Does anyone know any way round this?
 > > 
 > > Thanks,
 > > Tony
 > 
 > Well, you could wait for cable TV to come to Oxford.  Cable TV is supplied
 > by different companies in different cities, but they normally provide 
 > (almost) all the satellite channels.
 > 
 > (I'm assuming that if cable TV was aready available in Oxford you would 
 > not have asked your question.)
 > 
 > -- Jonathan Egre' = jonathan@mantis.co.uk = jonathan_e@cix.compulink.co.uk --

You mean almost all the ASTRA 1a and 1b channels, plus BBC1. BBC2. ITV
and Channel 4.

Eutelsat, and all the others, hardly get a look in.

Gorodn.
From: A.J.Robinson@lut.ac.uk (Alan Robinson)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Panorama
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:25:25 GMT
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.


Anyone know who obtained the injunction preventing the broadcast of
Monday's intended Panorama, and why ?



Alan.
From: pjbk@cs.hw.ac.uk (Peter JB King)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: Stamp Question
Keywords: question, charity, stamps.
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:05:52 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <2183@stalin> nic@uk.co.gec-mrc (Nick Chapman) writes:
>
>    Why do some charity organisations collect used postage stamps?
>

There are a large number of people out there, known as philatelists
(stamp collectors to you and me), who will pay for used stamps.  Either
by the kilo(!) for unsorted stamps still stuck to the envelopes etc, or
substantially more for stamps which have been removed from the envelope,
and/or are of particularly rare types.

-- 
Peter King, Computing & Electrical Eng.	JANET:	pjbk@uk.ac.hw.cee
  Heriot-Watt University		ARPA:	pjbk@cee.hw.ac.uk
  Riccarton, Edinburgh EH14 4AS 	UUCP:	..!uknet!cee.hw.ac.uk!pjbk
Phone: (+44) 31 451 3433                Fax: (+44) 31 451 3431
From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: humor in England
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:15:30 GMT
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <BxG2AG.3HE@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, gdg019@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre) writes:
> In article <721261643snz@kram.demon.co.uk> mt@kram.demon.co.uk writes:
>>You forgot the most important question.... why can't you get decent gravy
>>from any chip-shops in London?
> 
> Cos it ain't a London thing. I never heard of putting gravy on chips (or
> mushy peas) until I came to the Midlands. I've seen everything else
> thrown on (barbecue sauce, curry sauce, shish kebab) but not gravy or mushy
> peas. Obviously us sad Londoners are  missing out... 8*)

And scallops (scollops?), you cna't get these everywhere - some places it's a
mixture of potato and fish and others just potato, fried in batter.

And vegetable pakora in your local Indian takeaway. I olve this stuff, but 
only seem to be able to find in in Scotland, but have met people who had it 
in England.
-- 
snail@lsl.co.uk      

You Have To Remember, You Need To Beleive,
The Time Has Past, Dust In The Leaves.
From: cs89rdb@brunel.ac.uk (Roger D Binns)
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: change. Time for a
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:14:33 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Clive Feather (clive@x.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <BxB144.K0o@cck.coventry.ac.uk> lsg001@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Graham Wilson) writes:
: > Under the new system everyone would be entitled to a full grant of, say,
: > 3,000 pa. A total of 9,000 over 3 years. When the student starts working
: > you issue them with a new National Insurance (NI) code developed 
: > especially for students. As a result that student pays an extra 1% 
: > in NI contributions for the rest of their life. A person on average
: > earnings of approximately 15,000 would pay an extra 12.00 per month
: > in total.
: 
: A system rather like that operates in Germany. It has one additional
: interesting twist: if you get a First, the increased tax/NI is smaller -
: an incentive to really work !

The problem is still present that the university is not responsible to its
students.  I currently pay nothing to Brunel, and as a result get what I pay
for.  I can't even threaten to go elsewhere as I'll be the only loser.

I think that students actually paying for their courses will encourage a wider
diversity of courses, at varying ranges of quality and expense.

Roger
-- 
+=============================================================================+
| cs89rdb@brunel.ac.uk     Roger Binns    Brunel University - UK              |
|:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::|
| Do your bit to destroy the American economy by overwhelming their legal     |
| system - buy an Intel chip to run your Lotus software TODAY.                |
+=============================================================================+
Newsgroups: uk.misc
From: dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon)
Subject: Re: change. Time for a
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Distribution: uk
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:16:14 GMT

In article <BxLzoC.10A@brunel.ac.uk> cs89rdb@brunel.ac.uk (Roger D Binns) writes:
>Clive Feather (clive@x.co.uk) wrote:
>I think that students actually paying for their courses will encourage a wider
>diversity of courses, at varying ranges of quality and expense.

Yes, I think this would be a good idea.  No uni would listen to every
undergrad whinge, but there were times in my first couple of years when
certain staff (who shall remain nameless because I'm on much better
terms with them now) in effect bullied me.  That's because, in the uni
way of things, each year, staff grade, etc, has its own status.  And
1st/2nd years are at the bottom of the pile.

Now I did tend to get my way by theatening to kick up an enourmous fuss
if some of the injustices were not sorted out, but it would have been
*much* easier if I clearly has a label `#x,000 per year' attached to
me.  There would be the carrot and the stick...

Get my drift?

Damon
-- 
Damon Hart-Davis                          Internet: dhd@exnet.co.uk, d@hd.org

Public-access UNIX (Suns), news and mail for UK#5 per month.  FIRST MONTH FREE.
[1.35] Cheap Sun eqpt.  UUCP news/mail feeds.  Tel/Fax: +44 81 755 0077.
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From: ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk (Ken Johnson)
Newsgroups: uk.misc,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: Stamp Question
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:00:59 GMT
Followup-To: uk.misc,talk.bizarre
Organization: Bugs-R-Us


In article <BxJp7w.4oJ@cen.ex.ac.uk> DKSmith@msor.exeter.ac.uk (David
Smith) writes:

#  GB postage stamps, even the common ones with the Queen's head on, can be
#  sold to one of the wholesalers.  But it is not a way to get rich quick. 

In other words, philately will get you nowhere. 

envelopingly, Ken Johnson



-- 
                                  //// Ken Johnson, A I Applications Institute
Don't get off while it's moving. ////       80 South Bridge, EDINBURGH EH1 1HN
                                ////                  E-mail ken@aiai.ed.ac.uk
                               ////       Phone 031-650 2756  Fax 031-650 6513
From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: uk.misc
Subject: Re: change. Time for a
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:48:41 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

In article <BxJxt8.C3z@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre) writes:
>>>interesting twist: if you get a First, the increased tax/NI is smaller -
>>>an incentive to really work !
>>
>>How revoltingly elitist can you get?  Is this really true?
> 
> Nothing elitist about getting a First. Means you've worked hard for it.
> If you work hard, then you reap the benefits. It's that simple. I can
> say that knowing for a fact that I won't get a first. But with the course
> I'm on, if you don't get a first, chances are you won't get a job. So
> I need all the incentive I can get. The Germany way would make me want
> even more to work harder. 

So waht about people like me, who didn't work hard doing their A-levels
(teenage trauma et al) and ended up going somewhere naff, but getting an
honours course, but then the honours is removed by the CNAA because they have
an argument with establishment in question about some other detail. And then
each year they promise to get the honours status back, but fail. And I worked
bloody hard once I'd got through to the second and third years (I collapsed
due to stress at the end of both the 2nd and 3rd years) and the best the
establishement could give me was Degree with commendation (which most people
haven't heard of), which means I probably would have done very well on an
honours course. But of course that was denied me by the CNAA arguing with the
education establishment, not denied me by my tutors or the education
establishment.

The year after me did get the honours status back, but the nature of the 
course had also changed.

I don't really mind not having honours etc, because the people I work with
know If I'm a good software engineer or not, it's just it poses problems at job
interviews and the like.
-- 
snail@lsl.co.uk      

You Have To Remember, You Need To Beleive,
The Time Has Past, Dust In The Leaves.
Newsgroups: ucam.cl.misc,uk.misc
From: jlb10@cl.cam.ac.uk (John Beaven)
Subject: House for rent in Cambridge over Xmas period
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:24:20 GMT

Posting for friends, please contact them and not me.

Large central house in Cambridge available for rent between
20 December and 24-25 January.

Phone 0223 - 68262.


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