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From: scholl@uvmark.uucp (Kathryn Scholl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TOP TEN MOVIES, as of 9 September 1992
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:07:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Sep10.120740.60105
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney) writes:
  >Following is a list of the top-ten grossing movies in the U.S. as of 9
  >September 1992 (source: Seattle P-I, 9 September 1992).
  >
  >5     DEATH BECOMES HER                    3.2      50.6


So, did this movie succeed?  There was alot of talk about whether these
two "older female leads" could carry a 'big' movie, as well as whether Bruce
Willis was going to again appear in a bomb.

I don't know if $50 mil is good, beyond the studio's expectations, or not
so good.

I hope it is at least considered mildly successful...even though I thought
the movie was only amusing, I like both Goldie and Meryl and hope that
they collaberate again.


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From: jsd@daimi.aau.dk (Jacob Steen Due)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: A question about Die Hard
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:30:21 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

KJOHNSSON@finabo.abo.fi (Kim-Erik Johnsson INF) writes:

>I'm posting this message for a friend...

>Is there a scene like described below in Die Hard:

>Bruce Willis and the first terrorist he gets to kill in the movie (the guy he
>dresses up like Santa) roll down the stairs. The terrorist screams and stops
>moving. Bruce reaches out his hand to check what the guy has got in his
>pockets, and...

>...that one I believe, but the following doesn't sound familiar at all:

>...the terrorist comes alive again, only to die a few seconds later due to
>multiple head injuries because Bruce has been banging it on the stairs
>or the railings (?) or something like that.

>My friend says he's positive that's what happened. My copy doesn't have any
>scene like that, nor do I remember ever having seen it. He especially said he
>enjoyed the soundeffects that came with the 'headbanging'...

>So, anyone know for sure?!?

>I know the terrorist's brother gets his head banged later in the movie, but
>this isn't the scene I mean...

That scene was not in the "Die Hard" I saw in the cinema, and it is definitly
not in the video-release.

I think your friend has been remembering something he never saw ! A well-known
(in Denmark that is) example of this was a very famous scene in a popular
tv-series (Matador is was called - it has been shown in many european
contries). Quite a few people was upset as the series was rerun because a scene
was missing !! Only the scene (which many people recalled very well - they even
recalled the dialouge) was never shot. Not even the director could convince
people that the scene was newer shown in the "original" !

Such is the power of human imagination, that people recalled a scene that was
never shown !

/Jacob

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From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:45:54 GMT

In article <92255.141806BMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> <BMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>How about "Freejack" as one of the most embarrassing movies of all time.  I
>almost cried when I saw the budget for the movie.  If Ministry hadn't had any
>songs in the movie, it would have been totally worthless.
>
>Other drek includes:
>Monster in the Closet ("I don't give a monkey's fart....")
>Lucas
>Deadlock
>Highlander 2
>qquit

I liked quite a few of these films. Ding me. As for "Freejack", I kinda liked
it in the theatre, but when I watched it on film, I noticed an odd resemblance
to "Total Recall". Particularly, in the ending, where both Arnold and Emilio
have to get to the top of some tower, and put their hands in those spherical
doohickeys. I checked, and some of the people were the same. Then I read
the review in Video Watchdog and he noticed too! 
As far as crying about budgets, lets just be thankful that Bo Derek no longer
makes films

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner: What's the significance of Unicorns?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:36:30 GMT

In article <14SEP199217244758@moose.cccs.umn.edu> rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu writes:
>I haven't read the book, so I have no idea what the Unicorns mean.  Could
>someone who knows PLEASE explain their significance in BR?  It's driving me
>CRAZY! :-)

I don't think the unicorns are in the book, but rather something that was
done specifically for the film.

In any case the origami unicorn at the end supposedly shows that Gaff
knows about Deckard's dream, hence Deckard is a replicant. What the
unicorns may or may not represent symbolically (freedom?) I don't know.

                                         -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
From: mjb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (M.J.T. Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Film Societies !!!
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:07:48 GMT
Reply-To: mjb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

Is anyone out there involved in any Film Socities (university or otherwise) ?
I belong to the Sheffield University Students Union Film Unit and would love
to hear from others worldwide.
What sort of Films do you show ?
What facilities do you have ?
What are the biggest difficulties you face ?
etc etc

                                                         ______
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                                                      /  \ \___\_\
                                                      \ \ \/ __ //
                                                       \ \/ ___ /
                                                        \/_____/
      +-------------------------------+
     / The names Bell..  Mark Bell ! / \
    / but my friends just call me   /   +-----------------------------------+
   / m.bell@uk.ac.daresbury.gserv1 /   /                                   /
  +-------------------------------+   /  S.U.F.U do it in Graves          /
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+-----------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
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From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: TOP TEN MOVIES, as of 2 September 1992
Date: 04 Sep 92 15:47:41 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

Following is a list of the top-ten grossing movies in the U.S. as of 2
Sepatember 1992 (source: Seattle P-I, 2 September 1992). The first
dollar column lists the amount grossed in millions of dollars in the
previous weekend. The second dollar column lists the total gross
receipts in the U.S. through the end of the previous weekend.

1     HONEYMOON IN VEGAS                 $ 7.3 M     debut

2     UNFORGIVEN                           5.6      55.1

3     PET SEMETARY TWO                     4.8       debut

4     SINGLE WHITE FEMALE                  4.6      29.0

5     DEATH BECOMES HER                    2.7      46.4

6     RAPID FIRE                           2.3       9.0

7     A LEAGUE OF THEIR OWN                2.1      97.2

8     TWIN PEAKS -- FIRE WALK WITH ME      1.8       debut

9     3 NINJAS                             1.7      22.1

10    SISTER ACT                           2.4     120.8

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Name this Movie
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:23:12 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1992Sep14.100859.29362@nuscc.nus.sg>, med50003@nusunix2.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN) writes:
|> The reference however in the earlier series of posts about this movie
|> which detailed ralph macchio dueling the devil for the soul of an old
|> blues musician did strike a bell though. I have seen this movie and I
|> thought the ending was pretty good. Mind you, I did fall asleep and eat
|> a snack away from the tv in the middle. I have this weakness for really
|> good guitar work (Joe Satriani played the devil's champion). The fun
|> part is watching ralph macchio fake playing classical music on an
|> electric guitar - :-))
|> 
|> Anybody know of any other movies like this? (trivia question.)
|> 

Crossroads.
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Holden's Eyes (Blade Runner)
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:26:22 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:

>In article <1992Sep14.155443.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>>>Sender: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
>>>In-Reply-To: dododge@wam.umd.edu's message of 13 Sep 92 07:59:45 GMT
>>
>>>Hate to spoil a thread here, but if replicant eyes glowed and
>>>human eyes didn't, what do you need the Voight-Kampf test for?
>>
>>For that matter if they had pictures of all the replicants (Like Dekard
>>was shown in the beginning) what use was the Voight-Kampf test??? 
>
>	One can assume that the Voight-Kampf test is the general test of 
>humanity, and wasn't developed specifically to detect these 5 replicants.
>You'll notice  that the only person it was used on was Rachel, who wasn't
>among the 5 pictured.  Holden's applying it to Leon may have been before
>all the information about the escaped replicants was available, or he may
>just have gotten `lucky' in a separate investigation (I don't think it was
>the latter).  Of course, it could just be that Ridley Scott isn't obsessive
>about continuity.

Or it could be that replicants, just like humans, can do a fair amount
to change their physical appearance (hair color, facial structure, style 
of dress, etc.)

I still think glowing eyes would be a bit of a giveaway.
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Film with the least actors
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:28:00 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany

gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:

>The Dark Crystal is the one about the Skekses
>and the Mystics. no actors at all; only puppets.

Speaking of which: Does anyone know whether its soundtrack by Trevor
Jones is still available? According to my sources it existed on record
a long time ago and never was released on CD, but that's German market.
I was always fascinated by the music, but I haven't got much hope of
acquiring it. Just in case somebody knows anything, mail me.


May the Cool Be with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: upcoming martial arts
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:15:16 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

LE>Speaking of martial art movies, check out the latest (I think it's the latest
LE>release of Jacky Chan : Police story II. All the action/stunt scenes are up
LE>to chan's standard, so are the humorous ones. At the end of the movies, as
LE>ussual, they included the blooper scenes during the making of the movie.

     "Police Story III" has just been released; if you'r e lucky you can
     catch it in a theatre - or you can see it on video in a few months.
---
  SLMR 2.1a  Forget the virgins - we're OUT of virgins!
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Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
From: ct@epcc.ed.ac.uk (C Thornborrow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Highlander III.
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:44:19 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre

> > No, it's just as just as inconsistent with Highlander as Highlander 2
> > was.  (Unless they took their heads off before they went to sleep.  Or
> > perhaps they had them separated by the wonder surgeon from planet Fuzz
> > and now carry them around in their hands.)

A long time ago a Highlander II was anounced that was to be called Highlander II:
Yellowknife. Back then (one year after Highlanders release in Britain) I
suggested to a friend that the plot would run along the lines of there being one
immortal who did not make it to the final battle due to being frozen in an
avalanche. This would be a Samurai (is anybody else surprised that there were no
Samurai - the greatest swordmasters of history - at the final battle ?)

Anyway the reason I think this would make an excellent sequel is the opportunity
to pitch a mortal (Lambert) against an immortal (Yellowknife). The mortal has
full knowledge of everything (does this include knowing where his opponent is or
when he will strike ?) but must use casution as one mistake is enough to be
killed. The immortal meanwhile has no such knowledge but better defenses. The
opportunity to pitch knowledge against brute force (you can't kill me so I just
keep coming at you) struck me as a good scripting challenge.

Of course many people find the "there can be only one" betrayed by having another
immortal left alone. I wonder though, is it possible to focus this to those
present at the gathering ? Yes there can be only one - the one who wins at the
gathering. It doesn't stop an immortal not turning up and losing his chance for
the "title". It also doesn't stop an immortal trying to knock off Connor MacLeod
after the gathering ....

Chris.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: zippy@cs.brandeis.edu (Patrick Tufts)
Subject: The Film with the fewest (> 0) actoors
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:04:08 GMT

Swimming to Cambodia and Monster in a Box.  Both are Spaulding Gray
monologues.  The first might be disqualified because it has a clip
from The Killing Fields, but I believe Monster has one and only one
actor.

--Pat
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,alt.cult-movies,rec.video.releases
From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: Holden's Eyes (was Re: Blade Runner...(SPOILERS))
Keywords: blade runner ridley scott director cut film
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 07:59:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.200239.10220@leland.Stanford.EDU> tony@ajax.Stanford.EDU (Tony Evans) writes:

[ Holden's glowing eyes ]

>I'm wondering if Scott may have added this while he was "recutting"
>this newer version.

I don't think so. I can actually barely see it in one or two frames of
the CAV laserdisc.

>Maybe it's virtually impossible to see on video
>because it isn't there.  With all the "glowing eyes" stuff that's been
>posted I'm surprised no one's noticed this before.

The problem with the glowing eyes is that a LOT of them just don't show
up on video. I saw an old print of the original film release last year
and there were LOTS of glowing-eye shots that just don't show up on video.
For example I'd never seen Leon's eyes glow until I saw a film print --
on film it's blatantly obvious while on video it's almost unnoticable.

In particular the Nelson videotape is pure crap when it comes to picture
quality. The Criterion CAV LD makes many of the subtle things show up if
you know where to look, but it still can't come close to a film print.

In the new print I saw Friday (from the front row), I could see that
Rachael's eyes glow continuously during the scene in Deckard's apartment
after she kills Leon. Up to this time all I'd ever noticed were the few
shots where they were extremely obvious.

                                          -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: med50003@nusunix2.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN)
Subject: Re: Name this Movie
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:08:59 GMT

The reference however in the earlier series of posts about this movie
which detailed ralph macchio dueling the devil for the soul of an old
blues musician did strike a bell though. I have seen this movie and I
thought the ending was pretty good. Mind you, I did fall asleep and eat
a snack away from the tv in the middle. I have this weakness for really
good guitar work (Joe Satriani played the devil's champion). The fun
part is watching ralph macchio fake playing classical music on an
electric guitar - :-))

Anybody know of any other movies like this? (trivia question.)

Gervais
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: What movies do to cities...
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:31:58 GMT

Hi,
	I just finished watching The Final Analysis with Richard Gere and 
Kim Bassinger (don't ask).  Much of the action takes place in a light house 
which appears to be at one end of the golden gate bridge. I've spent a lot 
of time driving around the city, taking pictures and looking for views and 
I don't remember any lighthouse that close to the bridge. In one scene they 
come out to enjoy the view and have their backs turned to one of the 
wonders of the world, the bridge. That makes me suspect that the director 
just stuck it in for background decoration and that the lighthouse is 
probably somewhere in Point Reyes... Right?
	I've seen this happen before. There was a movie with Gene Hackman 
which had him getting on the DC Subway and getting off in a station in 
baltimore!  Are there others?
skip
From: scher@unixg.ubc.ca (Steve Scher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Date: 7 Sep 92 03:45:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of the Cariboo, Kamloops, B.C. V2C 5N3

In article <1992Sep4.174958.22917@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.052628.22994@fid.morgan.com> maus@fid.morgan.com (Malcolm Austin) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep2.172550.28784@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep2.95028.26895@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>>>>Explicit sexual scenes break down
>>>>the aesthetic distance which the movie should have established.
>. . .
>
>I find a sex scene in a film to be no more distancing than this example.
>Others might, but I suggest that says more about their own personal 
>responses to various real world situations than it does about the inherent
>reality of scenes depicted on the screen, or, perhaps, about the general
>skill of performers in making sex scenes work.

I think it really depends on context.  "Gratuitous" sex or nudity IS distracing
to me.  Often, it is very clear either that a scene is totally uneccesary or
that the scene could have been done in a much less prurient way.  This does
distract me.  It makes me lose the "willful suspension of disbelief."

Of course, I find equally distracting situations where nudity is avoided in
completely unnatrual ways.  The classic technique is the "post-coital sheet."
After a night of passionate love-making, one member of the couple gets up
(for a drink, to go to the bathroom, etc.).  They go to great pains to wrap
themselves in a bedsheet in a completely unnatural way to avoid showing any
unacceptable nudity.  

 


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From: zuidema@pine.gvsu.edu (Calvin Zuidema)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: RE: HELLRAISER III
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:06:10 GMT
Organization: Grand Valley State University

Hellraiser III was very gory, so in that respect it was very good.
Storywise, it was a bit slow, too much talking.  It would have
helped if the story had followed part II better.

C.Z.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Comments on Siesta?
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:39:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.185846.19549@morrow.stanford.edu>  
trm@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Tara R. Marchand) writes:
> writes:
> 
> Subject: Comments on _Siesta_?
> 
> I just finished watching _Siesta_, which stars Ellen Barkin, Gabriel > 
>
> I enjoyed the film; I found it similar to something David Lynch might 
> make. I was wondering about other people's opinions of the movie.  Did 
> you like it?  Why or why not?  What were the best and worst parts of the 
> film?
> 
> Now in retrospect, it reminds me quite a bit of:  POSSIBLE SPOILER

Try _Carnival of Souls_ from 1961(?). Same theme, but more goulish. (Maybe  
more goulash too, don't remember for sure what they ate!).

Thought _Siesta_ was mildly interesting. Just don't understand all the  
hoopla about Barkin. Her screen presence and acting are average, and her  
looks are below. Don't get it...

AK

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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Call 555-ACME : -)
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:45:14 GMT

In article <18go13INNfed@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bz035@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alain Jones) writes:
>
>In a previous article, jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen) says:
>
>> could someone clue me in, what's the story behind 555 phone numbers and
>>the Acme Corporation. Registered trademarks of Hollywood? :-) They're
>>everywhere!
>
>Finally, a question I can answer (at least partly).  555 numbers are
>widely used as fictitious phone numbers because they are guaranteed not to
>be subscriber phone numbers under the US telephone system.  As far as I
>know, the only valid number in the 555-XXXX series is that of directory
>assistance, 555-1212.

Filmmakers exercise similar care with respect to the names of fictitious
characters living in real places.  In _Psycho_ (the novel) the murdered
woman's name is Mary Crane.  However, there was a Mary Crane listed in the
Phoenix phone directory, so Hitchcock was offered some alternative first
names and chose Marion.  Can you imagine the kinds of phone calls poor
Mary Crane of Phoenix would have been receiving after the movie was
released?

>As far as ACME is concerned, I don't have a clue -- it was probably a
>trend started by the Road Runner cartoons :-)

"Acme" just means "best."  It gets used to avoid identification with real
corporations (seldom the best) who might sue.  I think that its use predates
Road Runner.

-- Herb Huston
From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Films with no females
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:28:46 GMT
Reply-To: jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:

# Why not just let [this thread] die a natural death?

Uncinematic.

John