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From: ss@sparkplug.WPI.EDU (Scott N Streeter)
Subject: Re: IRD?...Infra-Red-Detector?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:26:23 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:39:07 GMT, mishaal@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mashal Abdulra Almashan) said:


mishaal> Have you been asking yourself this question? Would you like
mishaal> to know the answer?  Read on: In School with a new
mishaal> sophisticated speed measurement device called the IRD. It is
mishaal> an Infra-Red (heat detection) device that measures speed
mishaal> accur- ately to .1 MPH. It is a small round device that is
mishaal> being installed in grey/ silver/blue 1992 &93 unmarked
mishaal> Mustangs and a limited number of State Cruisers.  It was
mishaal> rumored to appear on April 1st. First known siteing was
mishaal> yesterday 4/8/92.  There is presently NO KNOWN DEFENSE
mishaal> against it OTHER THAN obeying the speed limit. Feel free to
mishaal> pass this note around to others as a precaution.  Please
mishaal> strip headers before doing so.  Forewarned is Forelorned

I have seen that Blue Mustang GT quite often in the past month on 
290 near my exit where I get off to go home. Great stop for a speed
trap. I counted about 10-15 cars pulled over about a week ago
--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (jonathan drout)
Subject: Re: brain damaged drivers
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:15:32 GMT

The right of way also falls to the person on the rotary in 

New Jersey
New York
Pennsylvania
Virginia

Any other states people know of?

Jonathan
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: commike@lgc.com (Alan Commike)
Subject: Re: CAMRY SE-Brochure-
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:37:26 GMT

In article <17755@oasys.dt.navy.mil> odell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bernard O'Dell) writes:
>For those so interested, you can call 1-800-GO-TOYOTA
>for a brochure on the new Camry SE--
>
>Some amenities are --stiffer sport suspension-5 speed manual-
>a quicker steering ratio, standard sport alloy wheels, black-
>out window trim, leather trimmed steering wheel and shift knob,
>5-way adjustable sport seat with bolsters, and color-keyed
>rear spoiler.


does it say anything about a 2 pedal model? Don't ask why i'd want only 
two pedals, but i do...


thanks,

	...alan


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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jkurien@rdrc.rpi.edu (James Kurien)
Subject: Re: Are all Americans Stupid???
Keywords: wasted bandwidth, wasted time
Organization: Rensselaer Pencilneck Institute, Troy NY
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:53:58 GMT

  To answer your question, some Americans act 
  stupid.  We have to get our shit together 
  soon, or we will succeed in turning a once
  great and influential country into an impotent
  mass of frustrated has-beens.  'Course you
  Brits wouldn't know anything about that, would
  you ;-)   
 
  I sometimes wonder why people clutter newsgroups
  with antagonistic messages that they know are
  going to start a flame war, making a newsgroup
  which is already fairly low in useful material
  an even larger waste of bandwidth.

  Can we get a rec.autos.moderated?

  For useful information, the mailing lists,
  such as the hotrod mailing list, have been
  sporting a very good signal to noise ratio.
From: jonl@rb-csd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (jon.lafrance)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Engine Braking - what causes it?
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:23:26 GMT
Reply-To: jonl@rb-csd.SanDiego.NCR.COM (jon.lafrance)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Rancho Bernardo

In article <5342@nosc.NOSC.MIL> koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.151054.1291@berlioz.nsc.com> alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn) writes:
>
>>In article <5411@otc.otca.oz>, elson@otc.otca.oz.au (Elson Markwick) writes:
>
>>|> I can't imagine that pulling air past a closed throttle plate would be the cause
>>|> of engine braking...  After all, the throttle plate would have to be able to
>>|> resist quite a vacuum, which would make it pretty tough to open when you wanted
>>|> to give it a boot-full.  Try an experiment - prop open the throttle butterfly
>>|> with something (take the spring off if you have to), and try to turn the engine
>>|> by hand.  I'll bet you it's just as tough with the butterfly open as with it 
>>|> closed. (BTW, if you're going to try this, make *sure* your ignition is off :-)
> 
>Here's a 'better' experiment -- descend a grade and switch ignition off,
>observe rate of descent with throttle closed and then repeat with throttle
>open...  You *will* find that engine-braking *vanishes* or decreases
>*significantly* with throttle open vs closed...
>
>I say this is better because it addresses the point in question -- cranking has
>little to do with running as far as  operating conditions in the cylinders that
>affect crank-rotation are concerned...
>
> 

Glad you brought this up. While I do have my own opinion on this whole issue
being open minded I tried this yesterday at lunch. Subject 2.3l 4 speed
1981 mustang. Engine condition last compression check (within the last 30 days)
130 +/-5 on all four. Test course 1 mile down hill sorry don't have the grade
but as city streets go it is steep. Speed start of test 40mph end of test
30mph. Once speed was stable at 40 in 3rd gear turn off ignition and release
gas pedal. Result definite breaking effect. Next ignition still off depress
gas pedal fully. Result increase in intake noise as vacume secondary opens
NO noticeable reduction in breaking effect. Conclusion the compression stroke
is providing the breaking effect. With the ignition on there is energy supplied
after the compression stroke but as the piston is being pulled away from TDC
this energy is negated. I now return you to your original thread. 

Enjoy!

+==========================================================================+
| Jon LaFrance       Corporate Customer Services       PM&S E&M San Diego  |
| NCR - 440-2805    (jon.lafrance@sandiego.ncr.com)    FAX  (619) 485-3400 |
From: cmj@horus.cem.msu.EDU (Chris Jenkins|xxxxxx)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Mitsubitchy
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:29:54 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

From article <1992Apr4.030556.20461@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, by ac579@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (G.C.J. Timm):
> 
> From a previous post, regarding Sales Slime,
> Chris Jenkins sez:  "Not at Saturn!"
> 
> To which I reply, look at the rest of GM.
> 
> In a few months they will be like all the rest.
> 
> Jeff

P.S. - They DO vary from dealer to dealer, tho' Saturn in general is trying
for some uniformity.
I called five dealers (retailers) and spoke with the managers about getting
a job as a consultant.  I have zero sales experience, and though none of 
them was currently hiring, all but one were very encouraging.  The last
was actively discouraging.  It fact, you might be interested to note that
one guy specifically told me that he does NOT hire people with prior sales
exp.  For precisely the reason you would expect.  Several of them even invited
me down to the stores to fill out an app. anyway.

---cmj
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From: mbrockma@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.music.misc,rec.arts.movies,alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Free magazine from subsription services.
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:26:41 GMT
Organization: Twin Peaks Sheriff Department

In article <1992Apr6.014733.8725@tellab5.tellabs.com> rgarg@tellabs.com (Rajesh Garg) writes:
>I came across a company called "COLLEGETOWN MAGAZINE
>SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE" in New York.
>
>Right Now they are offering this special offer:
>
>You can call them and either give them the address
>label info from your old subscription or ask them a
>free trial offer subscription for one full year with
>a purchase of any magazine.                     ^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This part here makes it sound as if you must make
some sort of purchase to get the free magazine for a year
deal.


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Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: New Wax
From: rrm@icf.hrb.com (MURPH)
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:37:15 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

Anyone out there have any info on the new wax Prism(SP)? It is kind of new and
you wash it off instead of wiping it off. I don't see how this could give you a
good coat and shine but miracles do happen. Thanks.


                                                   Murph
From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Engine Braking - what causes it?
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:06:16 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

In article <1992Apr8.004020.9998@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, jniewiad@csws7.ic.sunysb.edu (Jan Jozef Niewiadomski) writes:
|> In article <5313@nosc.NOSC.MIL> koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz) writes:
|> >
|> >
|> >predominantly, the action of trying to pull intake air past a closed throttle
|> >plate is the source of 'engine-braking'...  don't believe someone saying
|> >'compression' because *that* is *not* true -- Diesels essentially freewheel,
|> >i.e. there is far *less* engine braking with a Diesel than with a gasoline
|>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >engine (all other factors equal).
|>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> NOT TRUE
|> 
|> Ever take your foot off the diesel-pedal ( :-) ) while driving ?  The front
|> of the car literally DIVES....  Pulling a vaccuum in a gasoline engine results
|> in about 1 atmosphere of resistive pressure due to crankcase pressure.  The 
|> "freewheeling" diesel is compressing whatever it takes in at that particular
|> RPM into 1/23 its original volume which gives an average resistive pressure
|> of about 11.5 to 9.5 atmospheres depending on how high the revs are.
|> 
|> My explanation may not be complete but a diesel rabbit slows down a hell of a 
|> lot faster than a gasoline-engined rabbit when engine braking.
|> 
|> JJ

Think about that a minute:  What is the difference between the compression stroke
under acceleration and under deceleration?  Absolutely none!  If it was the
compression stroke providing the engine braking then there would be no engine braking.
The braking is done during the INTAKE stroke.  In a gas engine the intake stroke is
trying to pull a vaccuum.  In a diesel engine the intake stroke still pulls all
the air it needs through the air intake.  There is no throttle plate to close.

When I release the go pedal on my F350 the engine rpm's drop rapidly yet the road
speed barely reduces at all, especially when I'm towing my trailer (GCW = 16K lb).
When I touch the brake pedal rpm's almost immediately drop to idle.  If the engine
were providing any braking then the engine would not be able to idle at highway 
speeds.

Volkswagen may have installed an exhaust brake on their engines to aid in braking
but it is NOT the same mechanism that causes engine braking in a gas engine.


-- 
Alan Hepburn           "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain
National Semiconductor       a little temporary safety deserve neither
Santa Clara, Ca              liberty nor safety."
alan@berlioz.nsc.com                              Benjamin Franklin
From: sgc1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (scott.g.crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: '92 Suburban
Summary: Suburban with 372,000 miles and still going strong
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:47:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr8.134840.3547@newstand.syr.edu>, ravalent@rodan.acs.syr.edu () writes:
> >[someting about the 92 sub. motor being a "neanderthal"]
> 
> Just cause it's old, don't mean its bad.  The chevy V-8 is one
> of the better truck motors around.  The 350 in my 71 pickup finally
> departed at 345,000 miles.  I'd take one ANY day.....
> 
> ----> Bob
> 


My father-in-law has a 76 Surburban with the 350 in
it and it has 372,000 miles on it and it's still going
strong. The only problem is the roof is rusting out,
but last week he pulled a F150 out of mud.


Scott
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From: jnissen@jnissen.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Mitsubishi Galant VR4 clutch
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:06:11 GMT
Reply-To: jnissen@jnissen.austin.ibm.com ()
Organization: IBM, Austin

I heard of problems like this before.  Take the chance on the
aftermarket clutch.  Most likely the factory	
did not get the original clutch setup correctly, therefore, it wore out
very fast.  You will have a hard 	
time getting the dealer to repair it under warantee.  They are in the
business of making money on repairs	
and sales.  I would spend the money on the aftermarket clutch and take
the risk.  Sounds like it's a simple	
slipping clutch.	

J.P. Nissen
From: coop4y44@bwdlh128.BNR.CA
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Fair Price for '86 Porsche 944 ?
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:24:42 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Hi,

  Could someone please tell me a fair price for an '86 Porsche 944.
I have an opportunity to buy one and I would like to know where to 
start the bargaining.  This is a European non-turbo model.  Its
been converted to meet Canadain laws.  

  Please post a response to this group.  Net mail only reaches me
a small percentage of the time.

Thanks for any help you can offer,
...Markus
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: uk09365@nx02.mik.uky.edu (robert i kesten)
Subject: Re: photo radar
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:13:23 GMT
X-Bytes: 

In article <1992Apr15.112206.23124@mips2.ma30.bull.com>  
K.Buck@ma30.bull.com (Ken Buck) writes:
> In article <123520003@hpindda.cup.hp.com> charlie@hpindda.cup.hp.com
>    (Charlie Cho) writes:
> [ re: photo radar ]
> >Yup, they get the front and the rear.  Otherwise, they would have taken
> >a nice picture of my front bumper with no one to send the ticket to  
since
> >I have no front plates.  They keep the picture though, as evidence they
> >claim.  You can go down to the station to see the photo if you'd like.
> 
> hang on a minute!  you mean they don't even send _you_ the photo?!
> so you get a ticket completely out of the blue, not only without the
> opportunity to comfront your "accuser", but with no evidence (the photo)
> to back up the ticket?

You get to confront your accuser in court, at trial, if you choose to go  
that route.  I guess you have to file a discovery motion to get access to  
the photo before the trial (or something like that).

RIK <not an attorney>
From: ae02022
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Passing cars on the right...why?
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:03:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: vx.16APR199211031147
Organization: University of Minnesota CIS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr15.020047.17233@cs.cornell.edu>, chang@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chang) writes...
>Well since we are talking about the dangers of passing on the right,
>I thought I would share this anecdote:
>
[story deleted]
> 
>The moral of the story is:
> 
>   The driving patterns in the U.S. can be crazy because:
> 
>      1.  The highways have stupid features like left entrance ramps.
>   

I can only agree with this. I was absolutely surprised to see left exits
from Interstates. I think that here in Minneapolis there is a very bad example
for that. That's where I-35W intersects I-94. Coming from the North on
35W you enter 94 on the left lane. The next exit on 94 is about 3/4 of a mile
on the right. During rush hour that's really challenging. You have to cross
three packed lanes of guys who do not see left and right. It realy seems
to me that people here in Minnesota are more preocuppied with other
things while they are driving. They do not care if somebody tries to
change lanes or anything like that.

The other weird things (IMO) are the traffic lights on divided highways.
You have a 55mph speed limit, so you drive accordingly and suddenly
there is a traffic light.

>      2.  You never know if you should follow the speed limits.
> 
>Richard   
> 
> 
>

Peter
From: olivier@spira.bri.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Using the horn
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:11:42 GMT
Organization: at a wonderful beach drinking malibu
Originator: olivier@spira.bri.hp.com

bphdarcy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (bphdarcy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu) writes:
> [...]
> Bill
> -- 
> INTERNET:  bill@Celestial.COM   Bill Campbell; Celestial Software
> UUCP:   ...!thebes!camco!bill   6641 East Mercer Way
>              uunet!camco!bill   Mercer Island, WA 98040; (206) 947-5591
> SPEED COSTS MONEY -- HOW FAST DO YOU WANT TO GO?

TIME IS MONEY -- HOW MUCH ARE YOU WILLING TO LOOSE?

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From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Subject: Re: Free magazine from subsription services.
Reply-To: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 14:03:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.014733.8725@tellab5.tellabs.com> rgarg@tellabs.com (Rajesh Garg) writes:
>I came across a company called "COLLEGETOWN MAGAZINE
>SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE" in New York.

There's been a discussion in misc.consumers of problems with this
company.  If you have access to back posts, I'd suggest you read them
before ordering.

>Right now, they are taking new business from present customers
>only. So, it would help to mention my name, Roger, as
>present customer.

Gee, funny he didn't mention that he also gets a free subscription
for referring you -- an oversight?

>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>No flames because if you don't want a free magazine, don't
>call them. If you want a free magazine, call them. In either
>case you don't loose anything.
>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

I just love people who post "no flames" messages, don't you?  They're
such easy targets.

As for not losing anything, that's inaccurate according to the people
who posted in misc.consumers -- several of them mentioned not getting
the magazines they ordered through this company (though I don't know
if those were paid or free subscriptions -- check misc.consumers back
postings if you're really interested).
-- 
Pat Martin Steward                          patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913
From: sowellrm@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Discrimination at Mitsubishiy
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:26:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Apr2.200618.6166@linus.mitre.org>, rajiv@mbunix.mitre.org (Kohli) writes:
> 
> 	Thanks to all of your support and guidance. I don't plan to take my
> 	car to the dealer as I do have AAA+ (for my Nissan) which allows towing 
> 	to a max of 100 miles to a shop of your choice. So if Mitsubishi, as per
> 	contract 3 yrs towing included ...which they have broken before, tries 
> 	to take to the Nashua dealer I can always call in AAA.
> 
> 	I would like to thank all of you for replying, offering rides in
> 	emergency, calling Nashua Mit, calling Mit HQ, etc. I am going to wait
> 	for about 15-20 days for Mitsubishi to respond and if not I will
> 	pack all the responses and send it to them and let them know that
> 	the
> 		"word is getting around"
> 	
> 
> 	Can anyone suggest which other group I should be posting to - so I can
> 	get net'rs to call Mitsubishi HQ.
> 
> Rajiv Kohli
> rajiv@mbunix.mitre.org

You might want to post to misc.consumers
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ca@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (christopher.arnone)
Subject: Address/Phone Number of Mitsubishi Consumer Affairs
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:36:36 GMT
Keywords: Mitsubishi, Service Problems

	Given the discussions regarding service problems from various
Mitsu owners on the net, here's the address and phone number of Mitsu
Consumer Affairs.  I just shot off a letter to them (I own a 3000GT) and
I suggest that other concerned owners do the same:

	Mitsubishi Consumer Affairs
	516 Heron Drive
	Bridgeport, NJ 08014
	(609) 467-7100

	Maybe if enough people write/call, something will get done..

Chris
attbl!homxc!carnone
From: commisso@kodak.com (Susanne Commisso)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Insurance recommendations and "Admitted" insurance companies
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:56:37 GMT
Reply-To: commisso@kodak.com (Susanne Commisso)
Organization: Image Processing Algorithms Laboratory, Eastman Kodak Co.

A strong recommendation on insurance companies not to deal with:

	NATIONWIDE!!!!!

I have had nothing but trouble with them.  You pay, pay , pay and
the minute you have to make a claim, they treat you like you should
be outcast from society.  Now, the best is, if you have lots of insurance
with them, you get much different treatment, in fact you could do
no wrong.  So stay away!!!!!

In my recent comparison, I have found Allstate to be the fairest - but
make sure you like the agent.

susan