From: morphy@cco.caltech.edu (Jones Maxime Murphy)
Subject: Re: Pride goeth before the fall (and hopefully Jones Murphy will too)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 11:31:01 GMT

casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE) writes:

>>>Listen dudesicle, while you're counting beans all day, I'm studying the
>>>fundamental forces of the universe here.  And since I get paid in Swiss Francs,
>>>probably taking more to the bank on Friday too (at least for the moment) - get
>>>the picture Holmes?
>> 
>>Probably not, old boy. You evidently don't know much about investment banking,
>>do you. Well, at least you're consistent, if ignorant.

>Did I forget to mention its all tax-free (and even legal) too?

You might as well. I know it distresses you no end that a black man makes so
much more than you, but just deal with it, man.

>>The fundamental forces of the universe I live in are greed and ethnocentrism,

>Which I suppose makes you well-deserving of your self-proclaimed title as its
>king ...

I've never claimed to be king of Amerikkka, or anywhere else. No thank you.

>But since you say the interactions between social forces can be summed up in
>one word, it sorta proves my point, doesn't it?

If only you had a point. Sigh. Yawn....

>Wow, pretty weak again Murphy.  Now I've got you plagiarizing your putdowns from
>white-male authored manuals on racial exploitation like the Bible.  "I could
>have insulted you, but I chose not to"... doesn't sound like the Jones Murphy
>I know.

The Bible was written by a bunch of people as dark-skinned as I am. Their
whiteness is questionable, to say the least. But you once again reveal your
proclivity for putting the cultural accomplishments of other peoples(in this
case middle Easterners who spoke a language with roots in Ethiopia) under the
umbrella of Western Civilization.

>>My SATs were perfect, kiddo. And you didn't have me to compete with when you 
>>won those silly awards.

>Tell us another one, kiddo.  Everyone knows the system is set up to keep the
>black man down.  There's no way whitey would let you get a perfect score.

Yes, there is. If my intelligence dwarfs yours, whitey.

>I bet you can probably walk on water and leap tall buildings in a single bound
>too. 

I know it's tough for you to deal with a black man who is so much better
educated than you, after all that's been done to keep us ignorant. Consider this
therapy for your neurosis.

>>No, not at all, since I never have to insist.

>[pause for the laughter to subside]

No doubt your colleagues are laughing so hard at you you can't type.

>>It's crystal clear to the people who are at my rarefied stratum. One to
>which, unfortunately, you cannot realistically aspire.:)

>Now it _does_ all become "crystal clear"...rarefied stratum?...I get it:
>YOU'RE HIGH ON DRUGS!  I should have realized sooner.

Of course. I live in Harlem, I must be on drugs.

>>Dream on. The only canvas I'm headed for is my hammock in back of my
>>Caribbean house.

>Is that where you grow that shit you're smoking?

No, since you're the only shit I've smoked recently.

>>Unfortunately, I'm part Euro. But nobody's perfect, as you are all too
>>painfully aware.

>In your case, yes, extreme pain.

Well, stop being so envious. AS you can see, it causes you pain.

>>Yes, for raping countries dry, then tossing them aside with virtually no 
>>infrastructure. A recipe for disaster with deadly consequences.

>No actually, it was the Goths' fault for overrunning Europe and causing the dark
>ages, no wait, it was the Huns fault for driving the Goths out of Asia, no wait
>..  I could go on, but now I've got to go sue Henry Ford's heirs for that last
>speeding ticket I got...

...I see you get such a kick out of the 30,000 babies who die each day of
starvation in post-colonial AFrica. Party on, dude.

>>I said Sweden did have overseas colonies. I've refuted your entire argument.
>>Germany colonized what is now Namibia. I don't know what they're teaching you
>>kids these days.

>Germany colonized Namibia, and Italy colonized Eritrea CENTURIES after
>industrialization began.  You might as well have included the two world wars as
>more evidence for your absurd statement that "slavery and colonialism were the
>driving force for everything Western Europe achieved subsequent to their
>commencement."  You don't even understand my argument, so how can you refute it?

Italy was not an industrialized country when it attacked Ethiopia. 
Germany had barely begun. I any case, you asked if these countries had colonies
nd I proved that they'd engaged in rampant theft and slaughter. There's no
question that Germany's AFrican efforts were pretty weak, but the Germans were
busy enough colonizing their neighbors.

The fact of the matter remains that European commerce experienced a tremendous
influx of stolen goods from colonialism, and that that is what catalyzed 
the Industrial Revolution in England. This in turn was imitated by Britain's
neighbors.

>I'm not imitating you, I'm mocking you and your claim to be eloquent.  If you
>don't understand the difference, maybe I should use shorter words next time.
>The reference to Shakespeare probably threw you...you have heard of him, haven't
>you?  Maybe you thought I meant the reggae musician.

Shakespeare? I thought you meant the white rapper, sorta the Vanilla Ice of
the Middle Ages.

>Wow, so everything in the history of Western Europe can be summed up in the word
>criminal?  Sometimes you do a better job of making yourself look stupid than
>I can ever dream of.

Yes, I waste time trashing neo-colonialists like yourself.

>>>Yes, I suppose it is hard to say whether it was, oh 85% or 90% instead.
>> 
>>That's racist fantasizing. Prove it.

>You're the expert in that department chief (see above).  I defer to you, since
>you made the original counter-factual statement that most of modern medicine and
>agricultural techniques were not developed by Europeans.

That's a bold-faced lie. Nuff said.
 
>>>Yeah, and the Russians invented the automobile too.  Reality-check time dude.
>> 
>>Yes, and you've checked out into another dimension:The White-White Zone.

>And you've been spending too much time listening to Al Sharpton.  Look bucko,
>I may be slamming you mercilessly, but I'm not slamming you as a black person.

In fact, you're not slamming me at all, chill.
You've obviously listened to Al Sharpton more than I have, since you actually
have an idea what that idiot sounds like. I don't.

>It's much easier and more PC to slam you as an idiot.  If all your vast
>eloquence can come up with is to call me "honky" and toss racial slurs, why
>don't you just acknowledge that you're simply an inarticulate, race-baiting Wall
>Street larva with pretensions to an education, and take your show on the road?
>You're full of about equal measures of hatred and BS.  There's enough racial
>animosity around.  All you want is to make more.

Now you're going off the deep end. I've never used the word "honky" in my life.
It's always been PC for white people to try to crush black people who
attacked colonialism for the organized crime that it is, so don't be shy.

Your invective reeks of racial envy of a black man who is smarter than you are
and better educated, the same racial envy that drove the Confederates to fight
and die to keep AFricans poor and ignorant. You're a worthy spiritual 
descendant, and it's no wonder you resent me so much.
Jones
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