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From: michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: How to contact Freeze Dried Software?
Date: 3 Nov 92 08:15:54 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Original to: paetau@mits.mdata.fi
In a message of <25 Oct 92 18:38:11>, paetau@mits.mdata.fi (3:713/602)
writes:

 p> Does anybody know an e-mail address by which I could contact somebody
 p> from FreeZe Dried Software? I've heard that Freeze dried termial 3.0
 p> would be released as commercial software, can anybody confirm this? I
 p> sure hope it isn't true..

I believe the rumour has grown out of the fact that of the thousands of
people using it worldwide, bugger all of them have bothered to register it.

Do you feel guilty? I hope so.   8)

 p> | Rasmus Paetau (paetau@mits.mdata.fi) | Waiting for the Atari Falcon |

\`miff`                                                       /|\

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From: mboom@mswe.dnet.ms.philips.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Hardware scrolling big screen emulator for TT
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:46:15 GMT
Organization: Philips Medical Systems Nederland

In article <1992Nov5.023034.14701@u.washington.edu>, dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward) writes:
> Does anyone know of a big screen emulator that works on the TT?  I used
> Darek Mihocka's MonSTEr on my Mega STe and loved it, but it doesn't work
> on the TT.  I'm stuck in ST high for Calamus.  I ftp'd "stretch", which
> sounded promising, but for some reason it says "STe scrolling hardware not
> detected" or something to that effect.  I thought the TT had all of
> that...  Any other suggestions?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Dan Aylward
> dud@u.washington.edu

I have used the programm bigscreen before I got my TTM195, and it worked
as you expected. (I also used it for Calamus) But it is more convenient,
if you have to money, to buy a 19" monitor.

Marcel.

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From: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: art packages for a ST?
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:26:49 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1992Oct30.231915.27026@cs.nott.ac.uk> mjb@cs.nott.ac.uk
(M J Brownlow) writes:
>In article <1992Oct30.110732.5134@crc.ac.uk> naffara@crc.ac.uk
>(Dr. N.A. Affara) writes:
>>I have seen a quick glimpse of Deluxe Paint III on a "friend's" Amiga, and
>>that looked quite good. Is there an equivalent for the good ole ST?
>Only good ole DP I for ST so far..

Actually there has never really been a Deluxe Paint for the ST. Electronic
Arts renamed a package called Da Vinci to Deluxe Paint just to get sales
based on the fame of the Amiga package of the same name. The two programs are
nothing like eachother.

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From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: How do I cancel Dialing with Uniterm?
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:12:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: bsu-ucs.1992Nov12.001219.11788
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1992Nov11.061101.11967@zooid.guild.org>, stramba@zooid.guild.org (Mike Stramba) writes:
> 
> When I use the popup dialer (right mouse click) and select a number for
> Uniterm to dial, it dials ok, but how do I get it to STOP ?
> 
> If the line is busy it just keeps going forever !!!
> 
> I've pressed every #$@!#%^$#^$ key on the keyboard, and pressed both mouse
> buttons !
> 
> I'm using version 2.0e

I'm on 2.0d and pressing any key aborts a dialing....should be the same on
yours....Hmmmm....:-|

				-Matt
From: mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Benchmarking (Was: Re: ST FORMAT DO IT AGAIN..)
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:50:50 GMT
Reply-To: mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk (Mathew Lodge)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

In article <1992Nov10.152620.1302@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> leo@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Leo Hendry) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.185921.9035@beaver.cs.washington.edu> bgilbert@cs.washington.edu (Ben Gilbert) writes:
>>Just remember that MIPS stands for "Meaningless Indicator of Processor Speed"
>>(and various similar things :-).  Although the DSP is rated somewhere above
>
>I compiled a Drhystone test the other day which gave a rating of appoximately
>1500 (Using Lattice C5 compiler).  I was reading an Amiga newsgroup for
>details of the A1200 and somebody quoted a figure of appox 1250 d'stones which
>they said is 2.2 times faster than a standard Amiga 500.

>  Does anybody know of an accurate speed test which works across a variety of
>machines?

Now _there's_ a can of worms! Devising an accurate indication of performance
that works across a variety of machines is extremely hard. It's the goal of
"the general benchmark", and it may be an unattainable goal.

Dhrystone is not a good general benchmark for a number of reasons:

1) It contains few loops. Studies have shown that most programs contain a
high percentage of loops, and that code inside loops is significantly
different to that found outside.
2) Large parts of the V1 benchmark can be optimised away by "dead code"
removal.
3) Dhrystone was originally written in Ada, then converted to C. The
conversion is not faithful to the Ada original, particularly when it comes
to string operations
4) The poor analysis of operators lead to the inclusion of a number of
string operations. These string operations introduce a significant amount of
computation and looping into a program that contains few loops. Hence,
Dhrystone results depend very much on the efficiency of the string
operations in your prticular library.

If you want to read a discussion of why general benchmarking is hard, and 
a critique of various benchmarks, you could check out the following
(sorry, couldn't resist):

MJ Lodge, "Benchmarking and Ada", 3rd year MEng Project Report, University
of York, UK.

About the best benchmarks around are the SPEC suite, a set of application
based benchmarks. Most "high end" manufacturers (Atari isn't one of them)
are members of SPEC, and the benchmarks tend to be written in C for Unix
machines.

In summary: determining "general" performance is hard, and error prone. If
you do need to measure performance, then base it on the relative performance
of a given application that is relevant to your area of interest.

>- Leo

Mat

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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: WHAT'S GOING ON ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:25:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: jonh.H.ea.7pYUMdYNR&6
	<1992Nov3.101001.12943@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov><68915@cup.portal.com>
	  <H.ea.Z7Z&fzI5IXU@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca> <69151@cup.portal.com>
Distribution: world
Organization: One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992

In <69151@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
> 
>HOWEVER.. the Atari implementation of that standard IS NOT
>fully compatible with the industry acknowledged standard.
> 
>It's about as close to VME as "ASCI" was to the SCSI standard.
> 
>For anyone with the standard Atari short-memories, Allan Pratt
>*acknowledged* that the Atari "VME" was not fully implemented,
>saying something like "maybe next time".

	I think if you check hias message, what you'll actually find he said
was that 3u was a subset of the full VME 6u bus. It's a bus for 68000
type applicationa, and the standard for 3U doesn't support things like
bus mastering. This is a little different than the way you're telling
it.
	The "maybe next time " comment was made regarding a full 6U
implementation. As to availability, you ignored my list of boards
specially made for the ST, and the hundreds of boards available in
Europe, assuming in your parochial way that US == WORLD. Sorry, that was
last year. Now you don't even own your own music industry.




-- 
 John Henders      " Only _my_ words are relevant to the issue " 
  T.K.O.O.C.            <1992May11.073237.14684@rotag.mi.org>
                kevin@rotag.mi.org(Kevin "I'm not a net cop" Darcy)
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: atari.archive news
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:22:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Nov12.202249.18537
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls

This is just a short message to let you all know that the majority of
files which were in the New directory have been moved to their respective
directories (and the Newitems directory has been updated).  I would like
to take this time to request that whenever you upload a file into the
New directory, you also upload a text file describing the upload and giving
an e-mail address where you can be reached.  As an example:

NOWWHAT.ARC
-----------
davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu

This archive contains the complete set of OSS Personal Pascal programming
articles written by David Meile in 1986.

----------------------

I would like to ask for reuploads of the following files:

	pt13demo.lzh
	unarj_st.lzh

Both of these files had CRC errors, and thus did not get placed in the
atari.archive directories.

Also, would the person(s) who uploaded the following please send me an
e-mail message telling me about the files?

	ovfix1.prg
	ldrdemo.tos
	dfslide.msa

Without any documentation, .PRG and .TOS files are next to impossible to
place correctly, and checking them out is also an impossible task.

Anyway, with the huge backlog of files out of the way, new upload turnaround
should be fairly quick.  Keep those files coming folks!

-- David Paschall-Zimbel

BTW:  If you notice that a file in the comprehensive index (0compind.Z) is
missing and you happen to have that file archived handily and can upload it,
please do -- and let us know about it!
From: grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: How to become an Official Atari Developer
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:18:07 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research

Send a letter to Atari attention Gail Bacani, or Bill Rehbock.
They can send you the details. I do not have the address here
but information can get it to you. 

You could also send email to ATARIDEV on GEnie.

Brian, WS1S
Bell Northern Research
Research Triangle Park, NC
From: lederman@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Information on NEC UltraLight 1702
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:38:39 EST
Organization: United States Coast Guard

    I have just obtained an NEC UltraLight (1702).  It does pretty 
 much what I expected of it, but naturally I would like to learn 
 more, like are any RAM or ROM or application cards still 
 available, enhancements to MS-DOS, etc.

    Is this the right place to ask about this system?

    Are there any anonymous FTP sites which FAQ or other
 information  on this system available?

    Thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: edmoore@vcd.hp.com (Ed Moore)
Subject: Re: Laptop on all the time - need UPS? (TI TM4000)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:01:05 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

: Are there any problems running a typical laptop all the time, plugged
: into the AC power (e.g. a BBS or home control system)?

I ran an early Toshiba T1100 Plus plugged into AC power 9 hours/day, each
working day for 2 years.  The battery finally died at age 3.  Its NiCd 
battery probably decreased in capacity (if the "memory effect" is true), but
the machine worked just fine.  The top of the case gets a bit warm.

: In particular, in an area with lots of thunderstorms (Boulder CO)
: where power surges and 1-second outages seem somewhat frequent, do you
: need a UPS, or just a good surge protector (MOV or "zero surge" or
: ??), or does the AC adaptor/laptop battery insulate you from those problems?
: 
: E.g., is the laptop running off the smooth power flow from the
: battery, while the AC adaptor trickle-charges the battery? 

I believe the T1100 Plus always runs off the battery, while the AC adaptor
keeps the battery charged.  Power outage wasn't a problem.  In 1987 we had
a power failure that killed every computer in the building (a few hundred)
except mine.  I just carried it over under an emergency light and kept
working.  No UPS necessary.  I'm not an EE, but I suspect a surge could kill
the AC adaptor.  It cost $70, so maybe it's not worth protecting with a 
surge protector.
From: nelson@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Matt Nelson)
Subject: Re: Laptop on all the time - need UPS? (TI TM4000)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Distribution: comp
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:59:05 GMT

byu@sys.toronto.edu (Benjamin Yu) writes:

>In article <NEAL.92Nov9153720@lever.ATT.COM> neal@druhi.ATT.COM (Neal D. McBurnett) writes:
>>Are there any problems running a typical laptop all the time, plugged
>>into the AC power (e.g. a BBS or home control system)?
>>

>I just plugged my Samsung portable for 3 days (just because the manual gave
>me the wrong info and I was stupid enough to follow it!).  I talked to tech
>support who told me that I should not plug my portable in for so long.  He
>said something about getting the battery all warmed up and that's not good!!
>No reasons given though!  I suppose if you don't care about the battery, 
>there should be no harm done.

keep in mind that some laptops will let you run off of the power adapter
even if the batteries are removed.  i know that this is the case with my
TI TM3000 WinSX, so i assume that the original poster's TM4000 can operate
this way, too.

-matt nelson (nelson@master.ps.uci.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: gra@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
Subject: Re: Sager laptops
Reply-To: gra@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
Organization: Computer Center, CUNY Graduate School, New York NY 10036
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:43:43 GMT

I've also noticed their ads. If you here anything about them I'd
appreciate it if you could forward a copy to me.  Our local host
only holds news for a day or so.

Eric Graig
CUNY Graduate Center
From: scst86@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. J.W. Timmins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Passive Colour LCD
Date: 4 Nov 92 12:02:31 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

Hi There,
   Has anyone had any experience of using passive matrix colour LCD screens? I
wanted to know if they were any good or not? I've seen active colour LCDs and
they look wonderful, but they're too expensive at the moment. Does anyone know
if their price is going to drop considerably in the next few month; no new
manufacturing process?

Thanks..
Jason
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: pcolsen@super.org (Peter C Olsen)
Subject: Adding devices to the GRiD external buss
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 23:09:28 GMT

I'm looking for information about adding a device to the external buss
connector on a GRiD portable computer.  I have GRiD 1550SX with a
120MB HD and I'd like to use a Colorado Memory Systems tape drive to
back up the HD.  I'd like to contact anyone who has done this or
anything similar.  It appears that all the floppy control lines come
out the external buss port and that all I should have to do is make a
suitable connector, install the tape software, and start making
backups.

Can anyone share their experience?

Thanks!

Peter

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: junikka@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jari Junikka)
Subject: Re: NiCad batteries again
Keywords: Storage, interrupted charging
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 03:06:43 GMT

byu@sys.toronto.edu (Benjamin Yu) writes:
 
>In article <1992Nov10.062202.14404@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>
> junikka@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jari Junikka) writes:
>>1) Should one store NiCad batteries charged or
>>   discharged during long periods of disuse (or is it
>>   nonuse)?

>According to the manuals of devices that use NiCad batteries, all of them
>that I have seen seem to say that you should charge it once in a 
>while (every 6 months, depends).

So should they be stored charged, then fully charged and recharged again.
Or should they be stored uncharged, then charged and discharged for storage
for next six months or so....

jari
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Hi res colour modes on T4400
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:41:19 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Nov11.121639.29672@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk> adrian@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (A Johnstone) writes:
>
>I have a Toshiba T4400SX with mono LCD. Since the colour version
>can display 256 colours in full screen mode I assume that I ought
>to be able to get my machine to display 256 colours at around 640x400
>dot resolution on a colour monitor.

That is =not= a valid assumption.
The LCD and color versions of the 4400 use different video controllers, and
you can bet the mono version doesn't have enough video ram to support
640x480x256 colors.

>Like (I suspect) many others I
>find the whole area of extended VGA modes very confusing. Can anybody
>point me at:
>
>             a) video mode details for this machine

It should be in your manual. Far as I know it is capable of 640x480x16.

>             b) A 256 colour Windows driver for same

No, for the reaosns above.

>As an additional point, does there exits a patch for Windows 3.1 that
>allows resume mode to work properly on Toshibas? I heard a runour that
>there used to be one for 3.0.

Yes. There is a device driver called WRESUME.386 which works fine on my
3300SL. You can get it from the Toshiba BBS (714-837-4408), from their
CompuServe forum if you subscribe, or from tech support.

You'll also want T386.EXE which allows you to get to the popup when
running QEMM-386.


-- 
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From: lau@sunset.ai.sri.com (Stephen Lau)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Toshiba 1000 Upgrade
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:15:53 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA


Hi,
  I have an old T1000 from around 1987 and I was wondering if anyone
has an internal modem for it for sale and/or the 768K ram pack. The
last time I saw either of these two for sale was about a year ago
and I haven't been able to find them since. Also, I once heard that
somewhere out there someone was upgrading the ROM chips from DOS 2.1.4
to at least DOS 3.3 if not DOS 4.0. Has anyone else heard about this 
or know if someone still does it?


Thanks. Any info would be great.

Steve

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From: yxl5388@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Fractalman)
Subject: Re: 16550A UARTS -- WHY?
Originator: yxl5388@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:59:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.173244.16967@csx.cciw.ca> hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.144023.29489@ultb.isc.rit.edu> yxl5388@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Fractalman) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov9.160108.36650@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> etl1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (EMIL THOMAS LERCH) writes:
>>>A 16550AFN UART is a FIFO buffered UART which doesn't do many users much good.

Some stuff deleted..

>>>with them, but you can also order just the chip if you want (~$15 U.S.)  If
>>>you're running DOS plain, don't worry about one.  If you multitask with
>>
>>Not true. A 386sx-16 can NOT possibly handle 14.4k connections (1700cps
>>transfer speed) without dropping characters. The only way is to get the
>>16550 chip. On my 386-25 I also can't do 16.8k (2000cps) without the
>>16550.
>
>Not true.  To get back to laptops: my poor old Amstrad PPC 640 with an 8MHz NEC
>V20 chip in it can handle 56Kbps over a null modem connection to my desktop. 
>It only has 8250 UARTs in it.  At 114Kbps the poor little XT cannot handle the
>flow.  Thus is under DOS of course.

That's different. Are you using the null-modem connection to download
files (via zmodem or something.)? Or are you just using Laplink or a
similar product to transfer files?

>Running a unix OS on my 386-40 desktop however, I lose characters if I go above
>9600bps.  I want 16550s for this machine.  Under DOS this machine can handle
>any speed (I have not actually tested 114K in a proper manner...my other 
>machine can't handle it...see above).

A 386-40 can handle any MODEM speed. Null-modem connection is a
different matter.

>>>communications and take away some of the lag time in other apps while
>>>communicating in the background.
>>
>>Nope, it won't speed up anything. The 16550 would only make the flow
>>smoother and not make it lose characters.
>
>While it won't really speed up anything, it DOES allow me to operate above 9600
>bps under a multitasking OS.  I don't know how to smooth the flow ;-) but it 
>will definitely help with the loss of characters problem.

There's usually no way to smooth the text flow since that's usually with
the way the OS displays text. (Unless you have an HST modem, but that's
a different story.)

=Fractalman

Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: PC to swap for laptop
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:38:13 GMT
Reply-To: agr00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (TONY ROSE)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA



I currently have:  IBM PC Compatible with:   42M Hard Disk Drive
                                             3.5 1.44M HD Disk Drive
                                             5.25 1.2M HD Disk Drive
                                             VGA Monitor
                                             1MB RAM
                                             101 Key Keyboard
                                             2400 External Modem
                                             Panasonic Dot Matrix Printer
                                             MPU-401 Roland MIDI Card
                                             Mouse Systems Mouse
                                             Parallel & Serial Card
                                             Software & More!


I would be interested in swapping with someone for a laptop of similar value.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops