HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Nos Tacemus --[ Weekly Column] -- Icarus.
Organization: The Net-Anarchists of SCI, Inc.
              Flaming Homer Division.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:57:01 GMT

1] The latest polls show DebChat leading me in popularity.
   So I will say little. Little. There, I said it.

   Anyway the semester is starting and I have so much to do,
   that I better limit my postings to one or two a week.

2] Regarding my miscreancy, what can I say ?
   Give a name a bad dog and hang it.

3] By the way, I did meet Ajay P. last Sunday.
   I had a chicken fajita, and he ate a chicken sandwhich.
   I told him many lies. He told me many more.
   I went to church right after lunch, which may be significant.
   Evidently news of this scholarly episode has reached Fort Collins.

   And on the cards:
   Rajan Parrikar, Njan, Ajay P, Kannan S and Icarus may meet for a
   few hours that may have possibly incredible consequences.

   Rajan, apparently went to denver on Aug 15th wearing a dhoti
   to Independance day celebrations, cracking up the crowd.

   BTW, another rajan lives in these rocky crags.
   Rajan the digits of pi.
   The chap who recited 10000 digits of pi and wrote himself into
   the guiness book of records.
   A japanese guy did 30000, now rajan is upto 60000 and aims to 
   reach 100000 leaving his name in that book for all time.
   The guy is really good at that stuff, he memorizes 20 digits in
   2 minutes over beer and recites it forward and backward.
   He says he can never get a correct prescription for his specs,
   because he remembers all the letters on the chart.

   Speaking of stars, the chap who stayed in my room before me
   painted the roof with flourescent stars.
   Most of the big ones.
   Ursa Major and the Archer et al.
   Of course he also wrote Led Zeppelin on the flourescent lamp
   shades just to get the balance right. Which is fine by me.
   So for a few minutes after I switch off the lights I can see stars.

   Today I saw a churidhar-kameez in Boulder.

4] Stay Cool.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Quote of the Day : (Defense Minister Pawar)
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:02:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: emoryu1.946
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

bijal@fusion.Berkeley.EDU (Bijal C. Modi) writes:
: NEW DELHI, India, 1992 Sept 3 (UPI)
: 
:         ``India will teach a lesson to Pakistan that not only its present
: generation but future generations would also remember,'' Pawar speaking at
: a news conference.
: 
: 
: Source : Clarinet Newsfeed
: 
: 
: -Bijal.

So, you too want to start a flame-war between two
"rival communities", as our friend from colorado
mines did some time ago?:--)

---sree
From: srikant@skorpio.usask.ca (Srikant Subramaniam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for a friend @ UT, Austin
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:47:01 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada

I'm looking for a friend of mine - Srivastava who is at U of Texas, Austin - 
doing his MS (I think in Biomedical Engg - NOT SURE). He graduated from B'lore 
University (M S Ramaiah Inst of Tech) and has been here since Jan '91.

Any info/pointers will be appreciated.

-- 
----- 
 |\/\/\/|      Srikant Subramaniam.
 |      |      srikant@cs.usask.ca 
 |	|
 |      |      Disclaimer: This is not what really I look like. 	
 | (o)(o)      Disclaimer: I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, 
 C      _)                  can't prove anything. 
  | ,___|             
  |   /     
  /---\    
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kumar@ern.doe.ernet.in (SA KUMAR)
Subject: test
Organization: Department of electronics, New Delhi, India
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:40:18 GMT

test............... please ignore
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: venkapd@eng.clemson.edu ()
Subject: JOB OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMPUTER PROFESSIONALS
Reply-To: venkapd@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:22:11 GMT

I am posting this for my friend Basu [Tel.# 517-787-9687, 517-782-0528]. He is looking for people with experience on mainframe, IBM PC, DEC, and HP in COBOL, ORACLE, RPG2 & 3, DBASE2, CICS, CAD/CAM, IMS, IDMS, SYBASE, UNIX, OS2, C, C++,MS-DOS WINDOWS.  You can also write to him at 2921, Apt. J, Pheasant Run Dr., Jackson, MI 49202.
From: DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu (Deepak Srivastava)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: RSS ( Education: BJP Adopts The Nazi Model)
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:46:29 GMT
 <92245.110357DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Sep1.195816.19049@u.washington.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Sep1.195816.19049@u.washington.edu>,
ngrjn@milton.u.washington.edu (V Nagarajan) says:
>
>In article <92245.110357DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu> DXS23@psuvm.psu.edu (Deepak
>Srivastava) writes:
>>An article by Purnima S Tripathi  --  Times of India 20th August 92.
>
>        Is this an OP-ED piece? Or a letter to the editor perhaps?
>
>>Hitler in his Mein Kampf had this to say about education in gen-
>>eral and history in particular: " A reform of particular importa-
>>nce is that which ought to take place in the present method of
>>teaching history. If politics means history in the making, then
>>our way of teaching history stands condemned by the way we have
>>conducted our politics. History must studied as a guide to the
>>future and to teach us what policy would be the bestto follow the
>>preservation of our people -- that is the real end."
>
>        Except for the part about the preservation of OUR people, by which
>        Hitler meant the "Aryan" people no doubt, this pretty much sums
>        up the goal of history, sociology or any other humanities curricula
>        at high school level in this country. Now there may not be a
>        conscious effort to make it so but it is there nevertheless.

And that is why even in this country attempts to introduce
multicultural emphasis in humanity and literature courses
are made. Does a word PC rings a bell ?


>
>                                                        - Nagarajan
>

regards..      Deepak

>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: General Body Meeting of the M.S.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:37:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.213721.2739@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko) writes:
>
>There will be a meeting of the Miscreants Society on Monday, Sept.
>7th at 7.00 p.m. The Miscreants Society was formed with the specific
>objectives of identifying notorious culprits, causing disturbances,
>committing multiple nuisances and otherwise undermining the reputation
>of our community.  Interested persons may send mail to this address.
>The venue remains undecided but will be in Columbus, Ohio.
>
>Note: Your email will not necessarily be treated as a private
>communication so don't imagine that bleating and whining later will be
>viewed with any sympathy.
>
>				AGENDA
>
>	Presentation of ceremonial turbans to new members.
>
>	Distribution of laddoos and other assorted sweetmeats.
>
>	Cowslaughter  Debate: If cow dies no milk, only beef!
>
>	Interval
>
>	Environmental Debate: If grass dies how cow will live?

suggested additional topics...

	Debate:
		Cow tipping: Should it be legalized? Or should it be abolished?
	(I bet our friends from fort collins can providew more insights... which
	might be a pretty good place for meeting. )

Njan
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: cow convention
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:22:20 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Aug30.014444.5046@news.Hawaii.Edu> vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>
>    You have a cow's memory only :) You had posted * exactly * "same to same"
>response 4 months ago .. and you * boast* about being an intelligent mallu ..:)

I don't have to be original in pointing out stupidity...

>BTW, are you still comparing your GPA with your fellow IITians ? Just

Not really... I don't believe in comparing my grades with someone with the
intelligence of a football player...

>Gotcha gangster.

Njan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: why satti is practiced
From: <RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 15:27:36 EDT
 <1992Aug31.122159.12346@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu><1992Aug31.162056.9989@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

-From: prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth)
-Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
-Subject: Re: why satti is practiced
-
-The point is different. As I have stated before, no act on its
-own is good or bad. There is also no need to recite scriptures
-to justify or to oppose Sati.
-
I completely agree.  However, if we are discussing, not the question
whether Sati is unacceptable - it IS unacceptable in these times - but
whether Hinduism is to be condemned.  Then it becomes important to
ask whether Hindu scriptures look kindly on the killing of women.
If they don't, and Hindus acting unkindly to women are going against
their own scriptures, then we can condemn the practice itself without having
to condemn Hinduism or India.

-Even if it happens only once in a millennium, some unfortunate
-woman would have lost her life. That is not acceptable to me.
-
This LOOKS innocent but I will argue that it is not.  During the time
when the Algerains were fighting for their independence and the French
were opposing them by force (this was before de Gaulle gave independence to
Algeria) it was the Frecnch policy that for every Frenchman killed, they
would kill k Algerians where k is some large number.  They could say,
just like you, `Even if one Frenchman is killed, it is unacceptable to us.'
It seems to me that if I have to choose between saving one man and
two women, then I must choose the two women.  If I have to choose
between saving one woman and two men, then I must save the two men.
But suppose, in the first case I say, `even if one man dies it is
not acceptable' and leave the two women to their fate, then I am
being unjust.  Similarly for the second case.

During the Gulf war, many people, Iraquis, Indians, Indonesians,
Sudanese etc. suffered.  Some sixty Sudanese fleeing to Jordan
were (accidentally?) firebombed by US warplanes and burnt alive.
Nonetheless, the four Iraelis who died received far more attention in
the US media.  This is, let us face it, racism.  I am sure that
the life of a woman has the same value as that of a man.  But I do
NOT accept that it has MORE value.  So in my opinion, the thousands of men
forcibly sterilised during the emergency SHOULD receive more of
our concern than one woman who committed (or was forced to commit)
Sati.  To say otherwise is sexist, reverse sexist perhaps, but
sexist nonetheless.

-RKP
Rohit Parikh
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:29354 alt.sex:27567 sci.med:16393 talk.politics.misc:41823 talk.religion.misc:14773
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.sex,sci.med,talk.politics.misc,talk.religion.misc,talk.ph
Subject: Re: Does masturbation reduce intelligence? (Was Re: Is it correct th
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 13:14:49 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

DUH

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                   August 25, 1992
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shalan@engr.latech.edu (Shivram Halan)
Subject: Re: INDIANS AND SEX
Reply-To: shalan@engr.latech.edu
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:52:15 GMT


	Pravin devineni ratnam writes 
the fact....many people. population.....in india..
..not..due...to ..lot..of..sex... it..is..due..to..more..unplanned pregnancies.



	I agree but there's more to it.
*	lack of family planning in the previous generations.
*	strong family values look down upon abortion as a means of birth control .
*	reluctance in the use of condoms.
*	desire to have a minimum of three kids. one for mommy, one for daddy and one to 				play with. probably one more for reassurance.
*	around the time of the menses. cycle (not during) there is the attitude of "unclean"  [during would be sick] 
* 	one year after the  marriage people expect the new addition or doubt is cast on the potency of the couple especially the lady.
*	Lack of spacing between kids.

*	lack of education on issuses such as "effect of population explosion, on the country, personal finances.....)

** heck how are pregnancies planned. a shot in the dark??? russian roulette???? the use of astrology to decide the best time for insemmination.

shiv.

"reproduction _ india's national pastime"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Sati is for our good!!
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 02:53:09 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: sati - not desirable
Summary: sati- not desirable
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c


>IF "sati" means the forcible burning of widows, and IF Mr. Doki
>is defending THAT, then he is just out of court - there is no
>point even in attacking him.  Such a position on his part makes
>no sense at all.

Mr Doki, our enlightened friend, wanted us to accept the practice
because it was handed down to us by our parents. His post can be 
 equated to standing on a practice range with black concentric
circles on your white shirt.

>But is that  what "sati" means?   Sati is an  internal state of 
>a woman and you CANNOT forcibly bring it about!  Let me quote
>from Apte's Sanskrit-English dictionary.

Force can be applied when 'ignorance' is rampant. This 'force'
does not have to be physical. If I do not know better, U can
manipulate my mind and by doing that - you can manipulate my
body.

>"(1)  A virtuous or good woman (or wife);  Ku 1.21   

>(2) A female ascetic  

>(3) N. of the goddess Durga;  Ku 1.21"

>There is no  reference to burning,  forcible or otherwise.   It
>is true that Shiva's first wife who was called Sati, did burn
>herself  but there is nothing to indicate that she was forced. 

Force is not always physical(Am I repeating myself?). If I was
brainwashed from birth to think that I will go to heaven if I
burned myself with the passing away of my SO, then I do not have
to be physically forced to jump into the pyre. I can accept your
above 3 definitions of sati (Using todays morality) - but jumping
into a pyre was an act of the past - In today's world - a very
'ignorant' act.


>Or,  are  you,  being  Indian,  using  an Indian word in a
>Western sense?  And if so, WHY?

>Rohit Parikh

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud.
From: ss7k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shvetank Shah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ***Gujju Joke***
Date: 4 Sep 92 06:03:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sedqmvq00WB5578oo6
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

As a card-carrying Gujju, I love Gujju jokes, however, the excuse for a
joke that you posted on SCI was so awful that I'm compelled to flame
you.  Get a life, chokra.

Shvetank
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       Price Waterhouse
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From: spaday@daisy.ee.und.ac.za (Strini Padayachee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Question....
Date: 27 Aug 1992 10:07:22 GMT
Organization: Univ. Natal, Durban, S. Africa
NNTP-Posting-Host: daisy.ee.und.ac.za

Who/what is a Desi? I also get the impression that it 
is used in a derogatary(sp) manner. Am I correct???

Strini Padayachee
South Africa
From: banerjee@aludra.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Bus. Week report on immigrants' education
Date: 4 Sep 1992 10:38:55 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <92247.235345SXS144@psuvm.psu.edu> SXS144@psuvm.psu.edu (** subramanian sivaramakrishnan **) writes:

>Indians are the most educated group topping the list with an
>average of 16 years of schooling. 
>

No wonder Ed Crick was cribbing the other day about how we Indians should be
grateful to the Western nations for having provided us with educational
oppurtunities. 

A misplaced sense of inferiority, perhaps?


Samit
From: ngopalas@ho19.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: I will close you by my ices --[ The Tiger Cascade ]
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:59:43 GMT
Organization: The University of Alabama

In article <1992Aug27.204251.9914@colorado.edu>, paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
|> In article <16850E475.R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU writes:
|> >In article <1992Aug26.225243.194559@ua1ix.ua.edu>
|> >ngopalas@ho19.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy) writes:
|> > 
|> >>
|> >>In article <1992Aug26.222717.7747@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mramesh@nyx.cs.du.edu (M Ramesh) writes:
|> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I will close you by my ices.
|> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will lose you by my dices.
|> >>>>>>>>>>>>  I will kill you with my spices.
|> >>>>>>>>>>    Hi willki, you with mices ?
|> >>>>>>>>>>    No Vepal, that would be crises.
|> >>>>>>>>      No pal, begone, that suffices.
|> >>>>>>>       I car US life's main spices?
|> >>>>>>        I caress her vain crevices.
|> >>>>>         I could do without artificial devices.
|> >>>>          I kudo you with art on what premises ?
|> >>>           Could you be SCating on thin Ices?
|> >>            Methinks Icarus will pay terrible prices.
|> >             Kill, and send me chemm slices.
|>               Drink deep then, of my intestinal interstices.
                 Look how the vain Icarus, into two, splices.

Nath.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.american,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: bharat@88opensi.88open.ORG (Bharat Kurani)
Subject: Need NASSCOM software directory on 1.2 M floppy diskette.
Organization: 88open Consortium Ltd., San Jose
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 22:04:16 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: software directory

I need NASSCOM software directroy listing the name of Indian software
companies on 1.2 M byte floppy disk.

if you have one please let me know.

 Bharat Kurani				Phone: 408-436-6608
 88open Consortium, Ltd.		Fax:   408-436-0725
 100 Homeland Court, Suite 800		email uunet!88opensi!bharat
 San Jose, CA 95112                           bharat@88opensi.org
From: psarkar@cs.arizona.edu (Prasenjit Sarkar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: NEWS(old):Indian actors in UAE face death rap
Summary: looking for a friend
Date: 24 Aug 92 00:34:02 GMT


	Looking for the email address of Ritabrata Bhaumik who has joined
the masters program in Electrical Engineering this fall.
				Prasenjit Sarkar ( psarkar@cs.arizona.edu )
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: A Question About "Swastik(a)"
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:43:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: emoryu1.935
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar) writes:
: Gawd almighty ! This is the 3rd time I've seen this thread on SCI.
: Maybe it should me accorded a FAQ status, along with:
: 
: 
: :) :) :) :)
: **sridhar**

I have been following SCI for the last nine months only and
I have not seen this thread. I don't know how long SCI has
been in existance and how many times this thread has appeared.
As per as I am concerned, my question is a genuine one. I was
reading a book about Hitler and came accross the mentioning of
Swastika many times. I thought I would clarify my doubt from
the learned people on SCI. Thats all. I am sorry if I bored
you or someone by asking this question.

---sree
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: General Body Meeting of the M.S.
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:48:44 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <Aug27.203323.59656@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
kannan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Kannan Subramanian) writes: 
> 
>Just one more on this thread before the net.cops arrive. 
      ^^^ ^^^^
I assume that means this. :-)

>probably missed far too many of Sridhar's informative posts. 

Actually that was in SCTamil - being from the wrong side of
the border, one is excused.

>At any rate, so you're in Washington DC ?  I may well have passed 
>within that stone's throw from your real (corrected) backyard, this 
>time on July the 5th, all depending on the stone and the throw of course,
>not forgetting the backyard.  

Yes, whenever I post, that is.

>Several "near misses" on that trip. 
:-)

>Do they sell "bajjis" at this Mall? 

They reserve these for the Indian Independence day - which due to 
rain delay has been rescheduled for tomorrow. There is some action
at the Sylvan Theatre and I heard the various clans are busy refurbishing
their family wardrobe. I will be missing the fun though. Of course,
my VCR will be recording the event in all its glory.

>polished off. Have run into only two net.people though. 

My only run-ins have been on the net.

[Stuff about Rao and OJ and the old faithful: deleted]

Talking about net.cops - they seem to have gone on a sabbatical
or something. What with the cascades in full flow and old hands
returning with nostalgia, law and order takes a back seat. I
see that Icarus is beating a fast retreat trying to play the piper
to his hordes. Aside from some serious linguistic discussions of
some ancient Indian tongues and some nasal twists to the old
Bombay favorite pao/`n/ as in bhaji and vada not much seems to 
be cooking. Glad to see that the Master has returned to his proven
skills after his brief foray into the grease-pit.

>kannan
>
>ps - never been to minnesota. 

No sweat.

Sthan.

PS. Could this encounter brewing between Colorado net.denizens be
termed a conference of sorts? No herbivores in Colorado, it seems.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki)
Subject: Re: Sati is for our good!!
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:48:51 GMT


>No, no, no ! I refuse to take the bait, Doki.
>And I hope I have influenced many others to do the same.
>Atul
>Save bandwidth. Ignore obvious provocations.


If only CLUELESS idiots like manikandan whatever had the sense to ignore
obvious provocations.


Doki


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