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From: mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Malcolm G. Costello)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Are there any places that accepts used/broken appliances?
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:11:50 GMT
Reply-To: mcostell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Malcolm G. Costello)
Distribution: dc
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In dc.general, lai@seas.gwu.edu (William Y. Lai) writes:
x>Does anyone knows of any non-profit org. that takes used/broekn appliances?
x>I have these used broken TVs, etc., that I hope somebody can recycle/reuse.
x>Info much appreciated.
x>
x>William
x>
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>George Washington Univ. |  much more out there.  Do I have it all?  Yes.  Do I
x>Washington, D.C.        |  want more?  Yeah, sure."     -Demi Moore

Try Goodwill Industries. They do rehabilitation- job training and
repair stuff. For donation information call (202) 636-4233.

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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Where to purchases spices
Organization: American Software Development Corp., West Babylon, NY
Distribution: dc
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:08:38 GMT

In the DC area, where can one purchase fresh spices?  I'm not talking
about the supermarket bottled kind.  We are looking for a place where
they have the spices in bins and you buy as much as you want (for what
hopefully is a good price).

THANKS!
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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: jon@sed.stel.com (Jon Radel)
Subject: Re: A better view on Statehood.
Organization: Stanford Telecom, SED, Reston
Distribution: dc
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 00:18:44 GMT

In article <DZOEY.92Oct2095011@frob.eng.umd.edu> dzoey@terminus.apexgrp.com writes:
>Hawaii has a large agriculture industry.  Pineapples, macadamia
>nuts,and sugar are all profitably grown there.  Tourism is important to
>Hawaii, but it's not the only industry.  Hawaii is also larger in land area
>than the district.  

Well, execept for a few for local consumption, all the pineapples moved
to SE Asia some years ago.  Labor costs were too high.....

And the military is the only other significant "industry."

On the other hand, some of the Hawaiians who are still a bit put out at
the invasion by the U.S. are agitating for independance.  There's just
no keeping people happy.  ;-)

--Jon Radel
jon@sed.stel.com
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey)
Subject: Re: more on crime here
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: dc
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:12:25 GMT

In article <25669@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>In dc.general, williamf@umbc5.umbc.edu (TheBigBopper) writes:
>> Not true.  At various points in the late 19th century and early 20 century
>> we had tremendous levels of crime which coincided with the immigration of
>> the Irish and Italians.
>
>I don't like the sound of this sentence.  Is it blaming the crime on
>two ethnic groups? I hope I have missunderstood the meaning of this.

Ho! Let's look at this: you don't like the "sound" of the statement...
do you contest the accuracy of the statement, or the factual basis
of the statement?  Is it that the statement is untrue, or just that
the truth of the statement is not "politically correct"?

Whenever there are large movements of one culture into the 
country of another there is potential for lots of trouble as
everybody gets used to each other.  This is not just Italians
or Irish, and not just in connection with the US; look at the 
rest of the world today...

>If not........inflamatory predudicial statements should not be tolerated.

Even if they might be true?  Ah, one of those people who 
who says that if it isn't "nice" it shouldn't be said?

Gee, I hope I have missunderstood the meaning of this. ;-)

Doug
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From: anneb@tecsun1.etl.army.mil (Anne Brink)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Looking for Hartzhorn salt (Ammonium Carbonate)
Keywords: cookies, leavening
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:21:38 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: U.S. Army Topographic Engineering Center, Ft. Belvoir, VA.

Hello, netters!

I've got this cool looking cookie recipe from my mom's cookbook, but it lists
as one of the ingredients "Hartzhorn Salt."  Further research through the
same cookbook has another recipe that renames it as Ammonium Carbonate.  So far
as I can tell, it's a hyper-leavening agent or something.  All I can remember
from when I was younger was my mother mentioning that "it is hard to find,"
but no indication _where_ to find it. )-:  I have checked a couple of places
locally to no avail. 

Anyone out there have any ideas?

					Thanks in advance,
						-Anne Brink
						anneb@tec.army.mil
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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata - FSO)
Subject: Re: Crime Here
Organization: HFS, Inc., McLean VA
Distribution: dc
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:17:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.113035.27222@umbc3.umbc.edu> williamf@umbc5.umbc.edu (TheBigBopper) writes:
>In article <4840@prcrs.prc.com> terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:
>>In article <25SEP199206280779@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>, packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
>>> There's no need for any average-sized male to fear mugging if he
>>> projects a sense of being attentive to his surroundings. The
>>
>>Maybe so at the office, but lets drop you of on the eastern side of DC
>>and see how well you do.    And even if your statement were true, it smacks
>>of 'to hell with women or the elderly, I'm ok so there is no problem'.
>
> MOST violent crime in the city is directed against people who themselves 
> participate in criminal activities.  Your suggestion that the Eastern 

Where did you come up with a conclusion as this?  Do you have any evidence
to back this up?



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From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Crime Here
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:56:33 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <29SEP199207302877@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov>, packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
> In article <1992Sep28.211205.29179@alw.nih.gov>, olds@helix.nih.gov (James L. Olds) writes...
> >What about the aspect of randomness though. I grew up in LA, used
> 
> 
> Yes, what about randomness? You're an NIH scientist; seems you
> would want to bring the same emotional detachment and respect
> for quantitative methods to bear on matters of social psychology
> that you apply to your own discipline. 
> 
> Specifically, it might be that the seeming increase in
> especially violent crimes is due to a trend in the D.C. news
> media toward highlighting them in various ways, not to any real
> increase in the rate of these crimes here. There is only =one= way
> to determine the truth: a quantitative analysis of newspaper
> coverage compared to a count of actual cases over the time
> period in question, say 25 years. This is beyond the means of
> most of us, so we remain entirely at the mercy of rubber-minded
> journalists. 
> 
Wow,  talk about blaming the messenger!
For the last few years the papers would report the numbers of homicides
in DC, I don't remember the numbers, but ever since I have been following
this the numbers have gone up.  Each year we would eclipse the previous 
years' total at an earlier date.  I do not know of a year in the last 10
where the nmbers have gone down.  As for beyond the means of finding out
the actual stats,  I'm sure that a call to the DC Police, Public Information
Branch (727-4383) may provide some answers. 

I doubt that 25 years ago kids took guns into schools and shot fellow
students.  
25 years ago 13, 14, 15, and 16 year old kids were not shooting each
other over drug turf or nikes.

25 years ago DC was just getting over the riots and other unrest of the 60's.
It was that which started the flight of the middle class (black and white)
from DC, along with most of the major retail business.  The impact on the
tax base was diasastrous, DC has yet to recover, and the quality of life
for those remaining has plummeted.  Ever since then the city has been
fighting a losing battle against all of the major urban ills, including
violent crime.

Incidently, I do not enjoy living in the suburbs, but there are few options.
I was born and raised in a city (London). I hate the suburbs, their dependancy
on the automobile and the humann alienation that they foster; but they are
safe.   I would much rather live in the country (too far to commute), or live
in the city (too dangerous), but these are unrealistic options for most of
us.  Population planners and city crime have forced most of us into the
arid wasteland called the suburbs.

Terry

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From: tucker@mitre.org (William Tucker)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Crime Here
Keywords: Re: Crime Here
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:35:38 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA, USA

In article <1992Sep29.114840.29042@umbc3.umbc.edu> williamf@umbc5.umbc.edu (TheBigBopper) writes:

> >
> >  The solution is for all of us to agree to:
> >  1/ raise taxes on ourselves 
> >  2/ demand that those taxes be applied exclusively to the justice system in
> >     the form of a/ expanded prison space b/ reduction in prisoner's rights
> >      so that we can double and triple bunk them if necessary c/ more judges
> >     and better armed police on the streets
> >  3/ reform the parole and bail system so that 30 years means 30 years
> >     in prison and bail is much harder to get and meet.
> >   4/ demand that the federal gov't do its task and protect our borders from
> >     illegal introductions of drugs and weapons.


Aliza buglady@wam.umd.edu (Aliza R. Panitz) responds:

> Excuse me, but have you read the U.S. Constitution lately? 

> Or have I missed the sarcasm here somehow?

> Personally, I can think of better things to do with my tax money than to
> lock up someone who got caught smoking a joint...

I (William Tucker) think:

Aliza, I would have to agree with you. The administration has tripled the money
spent on trying to stop drugs. The zero tolerance program enacted by former Drug
Czar Bennet has been spectacularly unsuccessful, total drugs coming into
the country has I believe doubled since it's inception. Our jails are hopelessly
overcrowded while some violent felons are released in order to make room for the
man arrested under the "zero tolerance" mandate. Clearly, punitive methods are
doing nothing to stop crime. Maybe we should try spending a couple billion 
instead on some other programs that address the problem rather than the symptom.
What ever happened to those Americans who cared about each other, and who knew
how to do something besides point their finger at people. Find the solutions,
we know what the problem is. The right solution doesn't have somebody being
the fall guy, it has everyone coming out better than before. Anybody can point
the finger and astounding as it may seem punitive measures don't work by
themselves. Getting incarcerated has become a rite of passage in some 
segments of society. Most of the information about money spent on drug war 
came from a recent talk show on 88.5 FM, one of Bennets former men was on 
the show. The rite of passage remark came from a Washington Post remark, 
made by a Baltimore policeman (I think.)


> I've set followups to talk.politics.misc.  This subject seems much more 
> suitable there...

>  - Aliza 

Wm T.

"Just my opinion, thank you." 

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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:37:47 EDT
From: Joni Snyder <JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: trivial question

In article <3743@ra.nrl.navy.mil>, kim@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Ellis Kim) says:
>
>I am about to ask a question which may seem quite uh trivial to you.
>It has absolutely nothing to do with politics or many of the social
>problems of this city. But i don't know where else to ask this:
>does anybody out there know of a nice place in the washington metropolitan
>area where a person (or two) can go out dancing to late sixties, early
>seventies kind of music?
>replies are very much appreciated.
>
I used to go to Deja Vu at 21st and M years ago, but I think it's
still there and I think there is one in Virginia

Joni Snyder
>--
>
>-- Ellis   kim@v5160.nrl.navy.mil
>   "First things first. But not necessarily in that order." - Dr. Who
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Exporting Jobs to other countries.
Keywords: Exporting Jobs to other countries.
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:12:28 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Oct3.235524.10655@linus.mitre.org> tucker@mitre.org (William Tucker) writes:
>  I've been thinking about the "recent" race to move 
>  a great deal of our manufacturing base to other
>  countries. I guess there are a number of things 
>  that bother me about it. Number one is what do we
>  do with all the people that it puts out of work?
>  There are only so may service jobs available...

What is this obsession with "service" jobs somehow being less
important than "manufacturing" jobs?  The Commerce statistics only
have 3 categories-- farm, manufacturing, and service.  That means that
lots of those high-tech jobs out there-- right, service.  By shrugging
off the service sector, you ignore reality.

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From: kim@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Ellis Kim)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: trivial question
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:48:12 GMT

I am about to ask a question which may seem quite uh trivial to you.
It has absolutely nothing to do with politics or many of the social
problems of this city. But i don't know where else to ask this:
does anybody out there know of a nice place in the washington metropolitan
area where a person (or two) can go out dancing to late sixties, early
seventies kind of music? 
replies are very much appreciated.

-- 

-- Ellis   kim@v5160.nrl.navy.mil
   "First things first. But not necessarily in that order." - Dr. Who
From: cs106406@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs106406)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: DJ equipment
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:36:12 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus

Record and Tape Traders.  I think there are a few.  The one I go to
is in Towson on Dulaney Valley Road.

12" Dance Records on Charles at Madison.

Quite a few places for new/used vinyl -- and check the City Paper for
record shows.
From: wilson@mml.ncsl.nist.gov (Ron &)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Prostate Exam
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:58:38 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Could someone please email me the name of the clinic in northern Va. that 
does the prostate exams.  

Thanx for your time.

Ron Wilson  (wilson@mml.ncsl.nist.gov)
From: bwallet@apssgi.nswc.navy.mil (Brad Wallet)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Crime Here
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:04:10 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center

In article <1992Sep28.185959.19392@access.digex.com>, jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep23.190023.10821@metter.fmpmis.metter.com> chris@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (Chris Mathes) writes:
|> >packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer) writes:
|> >
|> >>That's it. My entire history as a victim.
|> >
|> >Hmmm.  I lived in DC from 1968 to 1988.  In that time:
|> >
|> >-I was beaten up several times by black kids for being white.
|> >-My family's apartment was burgularized three times.
|> >-My father's business was burgularized once.
|> >-The window on my father's new car was smashed with a rock.
|> 
|> I lived in Brunswick, Maine (pop. approx. 20,000) from 1970 to 1987.
|> In that time:
|> 
|> -I was beaten up several times by other white kids for being smaller than them.
|> -My family's house was burglarized once.
|> -My father's business was burglarized several times.
|> -The window on my car was shot out with a pellet gun.
|> 
|> Brunswick is a medium-sized coastal town in Maine.  It does not have a crime
|> problem by anyone's standards.
|> 
|> The point: putting DCs crime problem in perspective.  You can't expect
|> to live in DC for a long period of time without some kind of incident.
|> But this is true of any town.  Crime is everywhere.  If you are careful
|> you can probably live a rewarding and relatively safe life in the
|> district.  I do.
|> 
|> >>I'm amused at people's fears. 
|> >
|> >I'm not very fucking amused at all.
|> 
|> I don't let fears control my life.  That is no better than admitting that
|> the criminals have won.
|> -- 

Well, I have lived in or around Fredericksburg for almost my entire life.
20 of 23 years.  In that time, I have never known anyone who was the 
victim of a major crime (knock on wood) who lives here.  I read about it
in the paper.  I do have a friend in Richmond who was stabbed and then 
robbed.  Sadistic *%&#$*$% stabbed him and then asked for his money.  
Note that this was in downtown Richmond in a very "bad" neighborhood.  I
guess maybe we should draw more general conclusions about cities.  I
guess that is why the middle class is moving to the suburbs.

Brad
From: kim@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Ellis Kim)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: thanks to all those who responded
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:19:58 GMT
Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory, Acoustics Division

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   "First things first. But not necessarily in that order." - Dr. Who
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: "The Colony of Japan"???
Date: 3 Oct 92 05:07:37 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

Dear dc.general netters:

   I may be posting in a wrong group, but as I couldn't find a geographically
more appropriate group...

   We had a lab retreat at St. Michaels, MD, this week. When we were driving
on Rt. 50 down to Easton, we found a huge advertisement (?) board saying
"Americhuko - The Colony of Japan". It didn't have a phone number, address
or direction. I've been wondering what it is. Is there any place in the
Chesapeake Bay area where Japanese started investment? Or did someone
build it just to make another target for Japan bashing?

Michiaki Masuda
Laboratory of Molecular Oncology
National Cancer Institute
Frederick, MD 21702-1201   
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: melanie@verdix.com (Melanie R Rooney)
Subject: NETBALL anyone?
Summary: Looking for women's netball competition in the Washington/Nth VA Area
Keywords: netball
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:35:47 GMT

Hi all...

I'm wondering if anyone knows of any women's netball teams which play on a 
regular basis in the Washington/Nth Virginia Area.

Netball doesn't appear to be a sport that has taken America by storm, despite
its huge popularity in Australia (where I'm from), England, New Zealand, the 
West Indies and Fiji. I'm sort of hoping that there is a small group of 
devotees in this area that I can join for a regular game. 

Please post to this news group or e-mail me directly if you have any
information that might help.

Thanks in advance....
                          Melanie Rooney
                          melanie@verdix.com

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From: lkelly@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lawrence Kelly)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Looking for Carousels!
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:17:54 GMT
Reply-To: lkelly@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Lawrence Kelly)
Distribution: dc
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In dc.general, 02h@oasys.dt.navy.mil (CDR Fred C. Wyse) writes:
>My young son (2 yo) has taken a fancy to riding on carousels.  He really
>likes the "horseys" that "go up and down"! 8-)!!  We've found several
>in the area -- the one at Glen Echo is really marvellous.
>
>To add variety to weekend outings, can anyone recommend other parks
>that have carousels and things like that?
>
>Thanks in advance.  E-mail to me.  I'll forward a compilation to anyone
>who expresses an interest.
>
>                                                 Sincerely,
>                                                 Fred Wyse









There is one at Wheaton regional park in wheaton md
the park used to be Old Macdonalds Farm but they now have a carousel
From: tucker@mitre.org (William Tucker)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Tax alcohol/tobacco pay medical damages.
Keywords: Tax alcohol/tobacco pay medical damages.
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:14:54 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA, USA


  Hi -


  There are a significant number of side effects to drinking
  and smoking cigarettes. We the people who don't either
  smoke or drink, or if we do, do so in moderation; end up having
  to pay for those side effects. There are health care costs associated
  with these products, as well as the occaisional unisured drunk motorists
  who can't afford insurance, and often the greatest abusers of these products    
  are not very well off. When they get cancer, or emphyesema (sp?) strokes, 
  heart attacks, scelrosis, or any of a number of related illnesses we pick
  up the tab. Either by directly increasing health costs to make up for the 
  losses suffered from covering the losses, or in rehabilitative services, 
  nursing care, etc. Why not tax these products to the extent that the
  damage that they cause is paid for? Why shift the responsibility off of 
  those who do the damage to themselves onto the rest of society? There should 
  be some way of figuring out the amount of damage done, adding a tax and 
  setting that money aside for Medicare, Hospital reimbursement, or whatever. 
  The added cost would also probably cut into some of the usage, except for 
  those who are addicted. Why not make those responsible for the damage done
  also responsible for the fixing of that damage? Is this our country or
  what? Can't we get any laws passed that help us?

  Wm T.

  "Just my own personal opinion."

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