From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Re: Lets just talk about comics
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 19:18:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.223302.25552@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>, duelge@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jason Duelge) writes:
 > Well, my sysadmin won't add the new groups, but doesn't
 > know to kill this one (and since the volume is low, it
 > likely won't attract much attention).
 > So, lets talk about something.  Anyone out there
 > read The Watchmen?  Stupid question, i know  ...  but
 > in the ... 6 years since i've read that i haven't read
 > a comic that seemed to equal it.  Some have come close.
 > The Dark Knight (which came out around the same time),
 > the early issues of Nexus (when the story *and* art were
 > good), most of Sandman (despite the art)...
 > Anything else stand out like this?  Cerebus (too long to
 > fit above ... although quite good in its own respect)
 > 
 > In any case, for those of us who won't lose rge, lets
 > take advantage of it ... especially if we won't be
 > getting the new groups in the near future.
 > 
 > Jason
 > 
 > ps  Can anyone name the albums and songs of all the
 > Roger Waters songs in my .sig?  (note Pink Floyd =
 > Roger Waters in my book)
 > 
 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 > | Jason Duelge  'Did they get you to trade your heroes for ghosts?'         |
 > | 141 Lakewood  'You better make your face up in your favorite disguise.'   |
 > |  Gardens ln   'In the bottom of our hearts we felt the final cut.'        |
 > | Madison, WI   '(I) kept my heart in dark ruins.'                          |
 > |   53704       'Just love those laser guided bombs                         |
 > | 608-249-9036   They're really great for righting wrongs.'                 |
 > |               'You can prove your point but your kids will still be dead.'|
 > | 'So have a good drown as you go down, alone.  Dragged down by the stone.' |
 > | 'Balanced on the biggest wave, you race toward an early grave.'           |
 > | 'Will you stand by a passive spectator, of the market dictators?'          |
 > -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, well, I first read Watchmen when it came out in a Norwegian translation
about a year after the original version--and the Dark Knight was also published
in a Norwegian version at about that time (a very good year).  IMHO, Watchmen
is still just about the most mindblowing thing I've ever read.  I still pick up
new things every time I read it (and I must have read it over 20 times by now).

Sandman, too, I like very much.  The art varies in quality, though I guess I
don't really have to tell anyone that.  

Regarding Alan Moore:  If you haven't read V for Vendetta, you're missing 
something big.  Really big.  For those that don't know about it, it's set in
a near-future fascist England.  Most of it was written in the early 1980s, but
it wasn't completed until more recently.  This is a very strong work.  I know
of no word to adequately describe it, but I can try with a few:  Dark. 
Paranoid.  Genocide, and a revenge to match it.  Really, Watchmen almost seems
upbeat by comparison.  Recommended.

Leif Kjnny
leifmk@lise.unit.no