HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: magnus@thep.lu.se (Magnus Olsson)
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.lingerie/hosiery/heels
Summary: Well, "alt.lingerie" is better
Organization: Theoretical Physics, Lund University, Sweden
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:11:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.093546.1@vax.sonoma.edu> mertes@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>This is a proposal for a new group! This group would entail the discussion of
>lingerie/hosiery/heels! I have been aware of the fact that many people on
>alt.sex, alt.lycra, alt.sex.bondage, alt.personals discuss these items
>sometimes in great detail. The discussion would center around the
>kinds/styles/colors/brands/magazines/videos/mail order/department stores/models
>that wear such attire. The forum would be open to anyone to discuss such things
>it is intended for all and any who enjoy admiring women in such attire/ and
>well if men enjoy wearing such attire then they can join the forum, whatever
>ones taste!  I am sure they can find something on this newsgroup....

The proposal has some merit - at least it will take some more or less
inappropriate traffic out of other groups.

>I propose the name  alt.lingerie/hosiery/heels

This, however, is not a valid group name. A group name may not contain
slashes, or Unix won't be able to handle it.

Replacing the "/" with "-" (as I'm sure somebody will suggest) gives
too long a name.

And, before somebody suggests "alt.lingerie.hosiery.heels", let me
point out that that name is a crawling horror from hades that defies
all rules about hierarchical naming...

So why not call it just "alt.lingerie"? I'm sure nobody will protest if
you post about high heels in it...

>I do not know how to start it or what the process is I was told to propose this
>here

The process isn't so rigid; just wait for a week or so, and if there
are no serious objections you may ask some friendly sysadmin to create
it for you (but please *don't* use a name with slashes in it).

>and I hope this can be the start of a great new group that has been
>necessary for a long time......

Hmmm... You seem rather too eager to wait a week - maybe you shold
take a cold shower in the meantime? :-) :-)


Magnus
Xref: sparky alt.config:5327 alt.polyamory:1066 alt.personals:17857
From: john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.polyamory,alt.personals
Subject: Newsgroup proposal: alt.personals.poly
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:19:45 GMT
Organization: Two (or more) strange people in Forest Grove, OR

Recently there has been discussion in alt.polyamory about the fact that the
administrator of the alt.personals anonymous contact service is enforcing a
strict singles-only policy.

Recognizing that that is his right, I have volunteered to run an anonymous
contact service for people who are in relationships that do not follow the
tradition of monogamy.

To that end, I will soon be creating a new newsgroup: alt.personals.poly.

Alt.personals.poly will be an unmoderated newsgroup for the purpose of
allowing people who are not in traditional monogamous relationships to make
contact with other people who are similarly inclined.  I will administer a
double-blind anonymous contact service for the benefit of those who do not
wish to be exposed to "the rude gaze of public scrutiny."

I will send out the newgrp message next week.

"An' it harm none, do what thou wilt."

-- 
John Opalko

john@n7kbt.rain.com  -or-  wi.5327@wizvax.methuen.ma.us
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Date: Thu,  3 Sep 92 08:20:48 MDT
From: gritton@alaska.et.byu.edu (Jamie Gritton)
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: New alt.politics groups?
Reply-To: gritton@byu.edu

jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:

> and so on.  I am now calling for opinions on possible creation of some
> of the groups as alt.politics.*.  In my opinion (differing somewhat
> from the vote result), some of the primary candidates would be:

> alt.politics.usa.misc		(probably this wouldn't work and instead
>                        		there should be a.p.non-usa.misc.  or both?)

If you created this, would you stop reposting the political articles
to soc.culture.usa?
--
James Gritton - gritton@byu.edu - I disclaim
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Proposal for alt.lingerie/hosiery/heels
From: mertes@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 3 Sep 92 09:35:46 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University
Summary: new group lingerie

This is a proposal for a new group! This group would entail the discussion of
lingerie/hosiery/heels! I have been aware of the fact that many people on
alt.sex, alt.lycra, alt.sex.bondage, alt.personals discuss these items
sometimes in great detail. The discussion would center around the
kinds/styles/colors/brands/magazines/videos/mail order/department stores/models
that wear such attire. The forum would be open to anyone to discuss such things
it is intended for all and any who enjoy admiring women in such attire/ and
well if men enjoy wearing such attire then they can join the forum, whatever
ones taste!  I am sure they can find something on this newsgroup....

I propose the name  alt.lingerie/hosiery/heels

I do not know how to start it or what the process is I was told to propose this
here and I hope this can be the start of a great new group that has been
necessary for a long time......

thank you 
colin mertes
mertes@sonoma.edu

Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: How does Alt.Bloom-County sound?
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:54:17 GMT

In article <94265@bu.edu> navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria) writes:

>I don't _think_ there's anything out there which would be appropriate for
>this kind of discussion, although if anyone has any suggestions/corrections,
>please tell me!

rec.arts.comics.strips

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "I don't know how much support NAMBLA
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  has in the gay community."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /   -- Clayton Cramer, August 1992
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup proposal: alt.amateur-computerist
Originator: tai50080@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: tinsel@uiuc.edu
Organization: Illini Mastication Society
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:44:43 GMT

ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) writes:

> In a previous article, elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher) says:
> >In article <1992Aug27.161943.28125@news.ysu.edu> 
> > ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) writes:
> >>              alt.amateur-computerist Charter
> >                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >Nineteen characters breaks the 14-character subhierarchy limit, by
> >quite a margin.

> Thanks for pointing this out. We did get another response via email
> that pointed it out and thus are now proposing that the name be
>      alt.amateur.computerist

Arrgh.  This also violates a rule.  Dots aren't to be used as spaces in
group names, they're to be used as a delimiter of hierarchical levels.  I
suppose you could say that this is a newsgroup devoted to amateurs of the
computing variety, with perhaps succesive groups for amateurs at golf, 
driving, sex, etc. but it doesn't feel right.  If you must create an alt
group for this, try an abbreviation, like "alt.amateur-comp".  

Otherwise, it looks fine.  Hell, you're proposing an alt group.  People
make alt groups all the time w/o asking first...
-- 
Thomas Aaron Insel (tinsel@uiuc.edu)
  I speak for myself, and not for the State or University of Illinois.
  "We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty." -- Edward R. Murrow
Xref: sparky alt.config:5368 alt.polyamory:1114 alt.personals:17965
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.polyamory,alt.personals
Subject: Re: Newsgroup proposal: alt.personals.poly
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:03:30 GMT
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Aug29.112339.10459@bnr.co.uk> dww@bnr.co.uk (David Wright) writes:
+If you want a personals group about polygamy, (the most recognisable of the
+four names you've used), then call it that.   Please be aware that in the
+UK and I believe a number of other places "Poly" is usually used as an
+abbreviation for "Polytechnic College".   (As satirised in Tom Sharp's

Well, California has two of them, San Luis Obispo, and Pomona.
But, I haven't seen a Pomona post so maybe Pomona disappeared off
the poly map.

As for polygamy, well that is a much more structured relationship
than what I believe is meant when one uses 'polyamory'.

Maybe the following:

multilibidic	More than one libidinous method.
polyerotic	More than one sexual partner.
polyamory	More than one love partner, love including the
	concept of sex, friendship, closeness, duration longer than coitus.
polyfidelity	More than one love partner for an extended period of
	time in a closed group.
polygamy	State licenced multiple partner group.

-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: alt.config,comp.programming,comp.bbs.misc,soc.culture.usa,comp.society.futures,alt.zines
From: Jym Dyer <jym@mica.berkeley.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.config,soc.men
Subject: Re: Alt.feminism
Followup-To: alt.config
Date: 26 Aug 1992 19:10:22 GMT
Organization: The Naughty Peahen Party Line
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
Originator: jym@remarque.berkeley.edu

ag> = starbuck@ucrmath.ucr.edu (aaron greenwood) in <6303@ucru2.ucr.edu>
tj> = tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) in <5001@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>

ag> Soc.feminism is a pro-feminist moderated group and basically
ag> very dogmatic in nature.

=o= While the moderators are indeed pro-feminist, the contention
that the group is dogmatic is absolutely untrue.  The moderators
do not reject criticisms of feminism.  This fact is stated in
their monthly informational postings and can be verified by
reading messages in the newsgroup.  If anything, the moderators
are quite liberal about allowing such criticism -- perhaps *too*
liberal.

=o= Articles are rejected from soc.feminism if they have nothing
to do with feminism or if they do nothing but repeat something
that's already been said.  The folks in soc.men who are whining
about their articles not being accepted are, from what I can
see, posting such articles.

tj> What concerns me more about moderation (and was the very
tj> issue that caused me to agree to this group) is the fact
tj> that "moderators" are entering into the "debate".

=o= There are several moderators for soc.feminism, and they are
a diverse group.  In instances where a moderator -- let's call
her Moderator A -- enters into the debate, her article is
submitted for approval by the other moderators.  And yes, some
of these articles have actually been rejected by the other
moderators.  If somebody posts something disagreeing with what
Moderator A has posted, Moderator A does not have the authority
to reject it.  Again, you can verify that this is going on by
reading messages in the newsgroup.

=o= Now if all the moderators were arguing the same things in
the same thread and rejecting all dissenting articles, you might
have a case.  But that's never happened.

=o= You could have found this out yourself if you had had the
simple courtesy to ask the moderators about their policies
before posting your criticisms of those policies.  Indeed,
you could have figured this out yourself by paying attention
to the articles in soc.feminism.  As it stands, you just
flamed in ignorance.  You owe an apology to the moderators
of soc.feminism for so thoroughly misrepresenting them.
    <_Jym_>
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Charter for alt.Hindu (Proposed)
From: ajay@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Ajay Shah)
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:49:34 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: A.I. Chem Lab, University of Arizona

In article <1992Sep2.090525.42717@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.201146.19081@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>,
> ajay@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>> We propose the formation of a moderated alt group, alt.Hindu
>
>How about alt.culture.hindu or alt.religion.hindu instead.
>-- 
>USmail: Bob Sloane, University of Kansas Computer Center, Lawrence, KS, 66045
>E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444 



SInce we want to explore both, the philosophy and culture, the name 
alt.Hindu would be more appropriate.

*******************
Ajay Shah
********************
From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.planetary.science
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:27:42 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Sep2.043049.18380@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>,
 knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp) writes:
>The vast majority of folks in sci.astro, sci.space, etc. wanted as indicated
>by vote.  Sci.space.planets wasn't created due to the requirement that
>more than 2/3 vote be got *AND* 100 more create than don't create votes be got.
>Well, we didn't get the 100 more but there is a lot of interest in the group.

The name should be something like alt.science.planetary.  Newsgroup
names are hierarchical.

>I forsee a lare amount of participation. The charter would be the same
>as was suggested in the CFV on sci.space etc.

If the group couldn't get 100 more yes than no votes, why do you think
it will be so popular? Popular groups have several hundred supporters.
-- 
USmail: Bob Sloane, University of Kansas Computer Center, Lawrence, KS, 66045
E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444 
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup proposal: alt.amateur-computerist
Reply-To: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:19:43 GMT


In a previous article, tinsel@uiuc.edu (Thomas Aaron Insel) says:

>ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) writes:
>
>> In a previous article, elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher) says:
>> >In article <1992Aug27.161943.28125@news.ysu.edu> 
>> > ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) writes:
>> >>              alt.amateur-computerist Charter
>> >                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> >Nineteen characters breaks the 14-character subhierarchy limit, by
>> >quite a margin.
>
>> Thanks for pointing this out. We did get another response via email
>> that pointed it out and thus are now proposing that the name be
>>      alt.amateur.computerist
>
>Arrgh.  This also violates a rule.  Dots aren't to be used as spaces in
>group names, they're to be used as a delimiter of hierarchical levels.  I
>suppose you could say that this is a newsgroup devoted to amateurs of the
>computing variety, with perhaps succesive groups for amateurs at golf, 
>driving, sex, etc. but it doesn't feel right.  If you must create an alt
>group for this, try an abbreviation, like "alt.amateur-comp".  



Thanks for both clarifying the principle of hierarchies and also for
making the helpful suggestion of "alt.amateur-comp".  

"alt.amateur-comp" seems fine to us as a name - it keeps enough of the 
title and spirit of the newsletter without violating the hierarchical
principle. So we now propose this as the name:

     alt.amateur-comp


Is there any document that might help us know rules or limitations
or regulations like the 14 character limit, etc.

>Otherwise, it looks fine.  Hell, you're proposing an alt group.  People
>make alt groups all the time w/o asking first...


Thanks for the discussion that is helping to clarify what we need
to keep in mind with regard to this all.
               
                           for the Amateur Computerist,
                               Ronda

-- 
Ronda Hauben                    email address:ae547@yfn.ysu.edu
Amateur Computerist Newsletter              or
P.O. Box 4344                   rhauben@heartland.bradley.edu
Dearborn, MI 48126
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
From: lindae@netcom.com ()
Subject: Missing Children's Fundraiser - PLEASE READ!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 16:08:06 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba



(NOTE:  Child Quest International, Inc., is a non-profit organization,
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Child Quest International
From: DURFLING@AC.GRIN.EDU (Finagle, etc. Durflinger,Edward M)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: (none)
Date: 2 Sep 1992 13:39:33 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Subj: HELP FIND TAMMY ZYWICKI

__________________________________
I am posting the following to soc.women and some other newsgroups becuase 
this matter of all matters should concern women and people who wish the 
world to be a safer place.
--durfling@ac.grin.edu
_________________________________________________________
WE NEED YOUR HELP.
	
	We are friends of Tammy Zywicki, a Grinnell College Senior who 
disappeared Sunday, August 23, around 1:00 pm.  Tammy was travelling from 
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Thank You,
The Grinnell Community
From: lindae@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Laws
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:21:48 GMT
Expires: Wed, 30 Sep 92 07:00:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Date: 19 Aug 92  21:31:47
Message-Id: <Fredgate.714405414@fquest>
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Responsibility
To: lindae@netcom.com
Status: OR

  There are certain laws pertaining to children that are not widely
known.
  If a child is missing it is a violation of the law for the parents NOT
to report it to the authorities.
  It is against the law to HARBOR a runawy.
  It is not only against the law to have a child who has been abducted,
this includes non-custodial parent abductions, but you also will be
liable for civil charges and a lawsuit.

  It is never to late to report a child missing.  We helped locate a
child who had been abducted by her non-custodial father two years ago.
The information had not been put into NCIC.  When the mother came to us
we found this out, insured that it was entered and she was returned to
her mother a 6:45 this evening.  Her father is being held and will  soon
be extradicted to Texas.

  A major fallacy is that parental abductions are not serious.  In fact
these children may be in danger of abuse or the parent may be an
alcoholic, drug addict, mentally disturbed or just not a nice person.
Even if the parent has the childs interest at heart he/she may be
continually hiding to avoid being caught or might otherwise put the
child in danger.
  ALL Forms of Child Abduction are SERIOUS.
    Please feel free to post additional information on child abduction
and runaways especially as it pertains to the law and to the dangers
faced by the children.
    Marv Cotton, Heidi Search Center.


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From: lindae@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Posting Information to this Group
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:23:10 GMT
Expires: Wed, 30 Sep 92 07:00:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Date: 22 Aug 92  21:05:00
Message-Id: <Fredgate.714661380@fquest>
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: This Echo/Message Area
To: lindae@netcom.com
Status: OR

  To all users of Missing_Child Alt.Missing Child Echo/Message area.
    Russell Coombs and I started this echo area two years ago to pass
    information on Missing Children and to provide information on how to
    protect missing children.
       Though we have had many people post information from time to time
     lately the active in this message area/echo has slowed down.  I
     hope that this was only due to the summer months.

      Now with school beginning the vulnibility of children has
    increased and I hope that there will be an increase in the
    information that is exchanged on protecting children.

      Marv Cotton, Moderator

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe


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From: lindae@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Shawnlee Matilda Perry
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:18:07 GMT
Expires: Wed, 30 Sep 92 07:00:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Date: 27 Aug 92  19:21:21
Message-Id: <Fredgate.715093121@fquest>
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Shawnlee Matilda Perry
To: lindae@netcom.com
Status: OR

  I am sad to say that the body of Shawnlee Matilda Perry was found
today near her home in Earth, TX.
   Shawnlee's picture was distributed in CHILD25.ZIP as 461.GIF.
  I know we all share the sorrow of Shawnlee's family and the hope that
tragedy's such as this can be prevented.

    Marvin Cotton,  Heidi Search Center

  Children Deserve to be Free and to Feel  Safe


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