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From: gt4458c@prism.gatech.EDU (John Stephens Cronin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: world
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:15:47 GMT
Organization: Common Container Liberation Front

In article <7OCT199218315301@sscvx1.ssc.gov> godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
>Does anyone else agree with me that Schitt's postings are getting a bit
>boring and seem unconnected with any threads on this group, other than
>Schitt.  If this goes on I shall have to post my entire PhD thesis.
>
>Laurence

Well, to add my contribution to the pot, I think some of them are boring
but they are appropriate and I think some of them are interesting as well.
I think I would almost certainly find your PhD thesis quite boring as well,
and no doubt inappropriate here as it probably has no tangible connection
to Thailand, which is what this newsgroup is about.  I have learned things
from Khun Schitt's postings - that is the point of communication, is it not?
Also, he seems to be quite thorough in his research, so I feel I may trust
his posts in general.  He does not post vague generalities but discusses his
pet issue in depth.  It also does seem to generate some discussion on related
matters as well.

One other thing - the numbers I stated for foreign graduate students remaining
to work in the USA for at least a few years did not mean just Thai graduates
but all of them.  The numbers still may have been a bit optimistic even so.
I confess that in this matter I have not been as concientious a researcher as
Khun Schitt, but have rather made rough estimates from personal observations
and rather vague recall of some articles in various publications concerning
the subject of foreign graduates working in the USA.  Rest assured that the
main point of my article was true: our excellent universities are one way we
attract and retain foreigners with desired skills.  Any one who doubts this
should just look at the faculty in the engineering and science departments of
most major US universities.  Here at Georgia Tech in the computer science
department we have as professors an Australian, several Indians, an American
of Japanese descent, at least one Arab, a German, and no doubt several other
nationalities.  We don't have any Chinese, Koreans etc in our own department
but they are well represented in Engineering, Math, and the Sciences.  Most of
them are very good professors, who we are no doubt lucky to have here. 

John Cronin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: cdr@sachiko.acc.stolaf.edu (Craig D. Rice, St. Olaf College)
Subject: references to northern Thailand hydro-electric project
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:35:16 GMT

Greetings!  

I was wondering if anyone could point me to references (news articles
probably) that describe the controversy over a hydro-electric project
in northern Thailand a couple of years ago.  I am particularly interested
in the role of "foreign experts" in the project, and how planning would have
beeb different if foreign experts had _not_ been involved.

Thanks for your help!
Craig
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From: pxu8785@usl.edu (Uthayopas Putchong)
Subject: Re: Thai movies
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:50:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.170234.5795@gw.wmich.edu> cooneys@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>
>I don't remember anyone in this group ever mentioning Thai 
>movies. I saw at least one that had some merit and some 
>charm a couple of years ago in Bangkok, about two little 
>kids in a country village. (Was it called "Puk Pui"? I can't 
>remember.)
Right, it is "Puk Pui". 
>
>What are the really good Thai movies, recent or from long 
>ago?
>
There are a lot of Thai movies but
I haven't seen most of them because many of them is not good.
Anyway I can name some movies I like.

1. "Num Pou" : About a teenager who died because of drug. This 
reflect many aspect of thai family problem. This story is
a real story of the famous writer "Suwannee Sukontha" and
her son ( "Nam Pou" is his name, it mean "fountain" in english).

2. "Kang Lung Parp" ( Story behind the Picture ) It's a love 
story between young man and married women who is older. This
picture adapt from Thai great literature with the same name.
The language and dialog used is very beautiful.

3. "Kon Song Jao" : It about the man who get the power in small
village by saying that he is the representative of the local 
god (Jao). From the start he try to deny this superstitious.
But he can't fight with the society. At last, he manage to use
this as his advantage to control all small society. 

(.... If any one can add to list , that's great...)
 
>Are they obtainable in the U.S.? (It would be nice to use 
>one to help with learning Thai.)
>
>			-- Seamus Cooney
>			 [that's pronounced "shay-muss"]
I don't know. But I think that you can found a lot of movies
in a big city like LA. Anyway, near Lafayette, Louisiana
there are Laotian community in New Iberia. There we have 
a lot of thai and chinese movie ( Thai translation).
I can still enjoy seeing many movies I like. 

Putchong Uthayopas
From: wtuntaw@starless.utah.edu (Wisanu Truntawiroon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Request of May Crisis information
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:48:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: fcom.1992Oct12.194840.27167
Organization: University of Utah

To everybody

	I got a friend  who can not access to this newsgroup. She would like to have all the information about May crisis for her research. Do we have any FTP site that contains all of these information. Please use Email.
						Thank you in advance


Wisanu Tuntawiroon (wtuntaw@mines.utah.edu )

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From: parimal@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Parimal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Info on Hotel in Bangkok
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:23:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.81239
Reply-To: parimal@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Parimal)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: parimal@dewey.cc.utexas.edu

Can someone please give info. on finding a reasonably priced hotel
accomodation in Bangkok for a night in January? I am flying two different
airlines- Delta and Thai, and have a night stop over. Not surprisingly,
none of them would arrange for a hotel. My main concern is security against
usual tourist ignorance, travel time from the airport, at least an average
quality and of course the price.

Another question is for how long you can saty in the lounge area? I was told
that it was about 3 hrs. only. In the first leg of the journey, I reach there
around midnight and my departing flight is 7 a.m. Therefore, I would prefer to 
stay at the airport itself.

Thanks a lot.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Saturday, 10 Oct 1992 17:18:33 CDT
From: <U25256@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: low class

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Date: 10 October 1992 16:58:50 CDT
From: <U25256@UICVM>
To:          godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject:     Re: Re: low class

Now you're talking shit about the U.S. If money does not classify classes
in Brit. then what does. From what I understand, 1) England is another
Beirut (what causing it??????). 2) And if there's no corruption or bribe
in England then you should go see this movie about YOUR Royal family
which was aired on CBS or NBC, just a couple weeks ago. And you probably
won't be able to see this movie in your country (and I wonder why??)

> In article <LEVIS.92Oct5085505@mohr.iesd.auc.dk>, levis@iesd.auc.dk (Tommy Lar
>>In article <1OCT199216562454@sscvx1.ssc.gov> godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE
>>
>>>>    Money is not a mean for judging everything.
>>
>>>   In England too, low class has nothing to do with money, and has to do wit
>>>   what the English like to call "breeding".  It is only in the US that clas
>>>   and money are interchangeable words.
>>
>>>   Laurence
>>
>>From how I understand the word breeding, Prince Charles' Diana isn't
>>upper class, but still she is royal.  Can this be so, or did I
>>misunderstand you.  If I didn't, then I'd say that in England too,
>>money is a measure of class.
>>
>>- Tommy
>>--
>>
>>          /\__         /\__\__\__\  /\__   /\__  /\__  /\__\__\__\
>>            \__          \__     /    \__    \__   \__   \__     /
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>>               \__\__\__\   \__\__\__\  /  \__\__     \__  /\__\__\__
>>               /        /   /        /     /    /     / /   /       /
>>
>>                  Tommy Larsen, Sonjavej 58, 9000 Aalborg, Denmark.
>>
>>                                 levis@iesd.auc.dk
>
> I'm afraid you do misunderstand.  Firstly, Diana most certainly is upper
> class, having come from a family of aristocrats.  Secondly, while
> explaining the traditional English concept of class, I didn't mean
> to imply that I sanctioned that kind of snobishness.  Class in England
> does not have to do with money, as I said it has to do with breeding, and
> breeding depends on things like where you went to school, where your father
> went to school, the important people you and he went to school with etc.
> Certainly having money helps, but it is not a requirement
>
> L
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: Godfree's World
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:12:43 GMT

In article <1bbllsINN87o@bigboote.WPI.EDU> tai@starbird.WPI.EDU (Lisa Taikitsadaporn) writes:
>In article <9210120506.AA02268@emunix.emich.edu> teera@emunix.emich.edu (Teerawat Pawittranon) writes:
>>> >> Yes, I agree with you, man. Professor Schit's posting is getting kind
>>> >> of boring. So..., why don't you post it up? I would love to read your
>>> >> phd feces or fetus.
>>> >
>>> > Who is this anonymous and nasty-sounding person signing on
>>> > from Chicago? Do some systems allow anonymous postings? Why,
>>> > except for shame, would someone omit signing his or her
>>> > name?
>>> >
>>> > (BTW, Khun Schitt's postings weren't intersting to me, but I
>>> > see no need publicly to say so at the cost of hurting
>>> > people's feelings gratuitously! And obviously they will
>>> > interest *some* readers, however few.)
>>> >
>>> >                                 Seamus Cooney
>>> 
>>>  My first name is 'Anal' and my last name is 'Nymous'. And I am
>>>  nasty, I must admit. Especially to the loud mouths. Why don't
>>>  you check on other news group?  and see who's a bigger jerk.
>>					   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>What good would it do when we find out who is the *smaller* jerk?  Please
>>forgive and forget, and let's go on with other discussion topics which could
>>benefit all of us like it has been since the inception of this group.
>>
>>owen
>
>	I agree with Khun Owen that we should let this fire die and move on.
>If anyone *must* continue on with this do so privately.  Personally I'm very 
>fed up with this and it's getting to the point where I am beginning to find
>the childish behavior of the posters who are flaming each other very silly
>and amusing.
>	Please let us move on to other dicussions and not waste public
>bandwidth flaming each other; an activity that is becoming pointless and
>going absolutely no where.
>
>Peace to all...
>L. Taikitsadaporn


I agree with Khun Owen and Khun L.  We can have any kind of discussion as
long as it remains issue oriented, not getting into lots of personal
attacks like this.  I'm afraid we're trying to copy the American style of
presidential campanes here. If we don't get over with it, we may end up
turning most people away from our s.c.t.
Regards.
Thian
From: minht@icicb.nci.NIh.GOV (Minh Tran Rajtboriraks  402-0727, 301)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Mailing List
Date: 15 Oct 1992 10:32:40 +1000
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Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 1992 18:05:35 -0400 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Robotics at KMITT

Excerpts from mail: 8-Oct-92 Robotics at KMITT by Mr K Yongsiri@csv.warwic 

> > Hello Mr Schitt,
> >
> > I remember that you recently posted news about robotics at KMITT.
> > I missed that news. Could you please either repost in soc.culture.thai
> > or email me that news again.
> >
> > I am interested in doing PhD in the field of intelligent robotics
> > but I haven't got any experience and idea of what I should do in that
> > area and at which universities in UK (preferable), USA, Germany etc
> > I should study. I would appreciate if you provide me some information.
> >
> > Thank you very much in advance.
> >
> > Good bye,
> > Kittisak Yongsiri.

Sawatdee Krub Khun Kittisak,

    I will e-mail sth. related to FIBO to you after this message.  I' ve
decided not to post those information in the net since they are too
specific and may not gain interest from other netters.  If anybody want
to get them, please e-mail me.

    We don't have a unified definition of intelligent robots yet. 
Currently, much attempt to make robots more intelligent lies in the area
of artificial intelligence.  Top guys in the field are also talking
about mechanical intelligence which I am not sure I understand its
meaning.  Vision technology and expert system will definitely be parts
of intelligent robot in the near future.  If you allow me to compare
robotics in Japan and USA(I was in Japan for two years) , I would say
that USA is studing robots for the future while Japan is applying
robotic technology to improve manufacturing/assembly capability.  I
don't know much about German and UK.  Below are Thai researchers who are
cutting-edges in the robotic field.  You may want to get in touch for
further suggestions:


        Dr. Jain  Channarong
        MIT
        77  Massachusetts Ave Rm. 3-137 E
        Cambridge MA 02139 
 
        Manufacturing & Robotics 
        jcharnna@Athena.MIT.EDU  
    ------------------------------------------


        Dr. Thawach  Sripradisvarakul
        University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
 
        Vision Systems
        thawach@engin.umich.edu

    -----------------------------------------

        Dr. Praphas  Chongstitvatana
        Dept. of Artificial Intelligence
        Edinburgh University
        Forrest Hill, Edinburgh EH1, 2QL
        UK
 
        Computer Vision
        piak@aifh.edinburgh.ac.uk


    If you are interested in knowing more about the Ph.D program at
Carnegie Mellon University, please inform me your postal address.  I
will ask the Robotics Institute (CMU) to send you application packages
and some related information.

    Good luck! with your Ph.D study.

Best regard,
Schitt  Laowattana
From: bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: War and Peace
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: soc.culture.thai
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:00:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.123729.2142@lut.ac.uk> (Thomas Mc Neill) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.163041.2915@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
>bunt0003@student.tc.umn.edu wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> To have an artificial peace is no more or less dangerous than a real war. 
>> Reasonable conflicts need not be bad.
>
>There's no such thing as a reasonable conflict.
>
>Tom Mc Neill
>Loughborough University
>Leics.,UK, LE11 3TU
>Email: T.Mcneill@lut.ac.uk


Don't you think we're now having a reasonable conflict?  It comes with
difference of opinions about certain things.  Maybe you think you're the
only correct person.  Smart people know how to manage conflicts, I believe.


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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 09:29:37 MDT
From: cheopr@bones.et.byu.edu (Chem. E. Operator)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: Our KING birthday



>Dear Netter,
>
>This December 5, 1992 is our king birthday. I love and respect our
>king very much. And I think that every Thai people share the same 
>feeling. I think that we should do something for this great event.
>Why don't we wrote some letter to show our feeling of love and respect
>for him ? Everyone can sign ( attach the email address ) and have 
>someone to manage to send it to thailand and to our king. 
>My english is not good. My capability is limited. We still have time
>about 1-2 month to accomplish this. So, I raise this topic to S.C.T
>to call for someone who willing to organize this .
>
>Thank you very much for your attention. I really dream to see this
>little thing done for our king.
>
>Putchong Uthayopas
>
>

I agree!!  I respect the King of Thailand very much.  If all leaders were this respectful and caring of their people, it would be a great world.  I was in Thailand on His 60th birthday and it was a great celebration.  Even though I am not Thai I would like to wish Him a happy birthday also.  I don't know the means and ways to get a letter started and where to send it, thus someone elae would need to head this up.  I just wanted to express my support.

choog dii, na krap.

Darrell Huntsman
Organization: Doctoral student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 1992 19:00:54 -0400 
From: Schitt Laowattana <sl2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: 1.2 Billion Baht Television for Education


A Budget of 1.2 Billion Baht will be spent on television for Education
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    The Ministry of University Affairs palns to spend 1.2 billion baht
on television for education.

    Permanent Sevretary for University Affairs, Dr. Wichit Srisa-an,
says that the Ministry will alocate a budget of 1.2 billion baht on the
establishment of television for education to be on air 18 hours a day. 
The project will take three years and is expected to be in operation in
1995.

    Dr. Wichit says the Ministry will set up a 20-kilowat parent
station, thirteen 10-20 kilowat regional stations and fifty 50-500 watt
relay station.  The station will gain its income from leasing airtime,
production cost and donation from the other two private stations.  The
Ministry will also plan to save on the expense by sharing antenna with
the Mass Communication Organization of Thailand and the Public Relations
Department's television stations, which will enable the Minitry to save
at least 300 million bath.

    Dr. Wichit indicates that a committee will be set up to supervise
the project.  Also, the decree governing television for education as
corporation will be issued, resulting in liberating the station from
government bureaucracy and political interferences.

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From: amara@wam.umd.edu (Amara Tremongkol Naksathit)
Subject: Death at Haew Narok
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:25:22 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: tockgae_@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Suwanvanichkij)
Subject: Re: Oct. 2516 and May 2535.  Forgive and forget.
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:18:11 GMT

Sawasdee khrup,
	This is my first real posting so please forgive any mistakes I
make.  I don't agree that we should forgive and forget.  Not this time.  I
was too young to remember October 14 but I did see May 18-20 and these
events should not be repeated.  I think that if Suchinda had remembered
Thanom-Prapass-Narong and their mistakes, he might have had second thoughts
about his methods.  I think what happened should be taught in schools
(including the vaunted Chulachomklao).  There has been too much screening of
history and we cannot afford to forget the lessons of Octobter 14 and May.
I also believe now that the Amnesty Decree issued by Suchinda was scrapped,
Suchinda and his patronizing lackeys should be brought to justice, as a
warning to any over-ambitious general later on.  


Vit
From: ssg9328@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Samart Srijumnong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
Subject: Re: Date of Loy Krathong ???
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:41:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bw76Ct.n3A
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

saffran@fzi.de (Axel Saffran) writes:


>I have a simple question:

>At which date is this year  Loy Krathong ???

>Thanks for your help.

>Axel

I don't have a Thai calendar at hands but assuming that the event
takes place on the Full Moon day of November (which is approximately
the 12 Lunar month), this year the Loy Krathong Day should take place
oNOVEMBER 10, 1992. I get this date by looking it up in a western
calendar that notes full/dark moon schedules. The one I looked up at 
is Yosemite 18 Month Calendar: July '91 - December '92, Yosemite Park &
Curry Co., 1990. 

Samart Srijumnong
Champaign, Illinois
October 15, 1992
Newsgroups: soc.culture.thai
From: anawat@wam.umd.edu (Anawat Kitjalaksana)
Subject: test
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: um
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:59:31 GMT

This is a test. Please ignore it.

Anawat 
Newsgroups: Pnews,soc.culture.thai
From: amara@wam.umd.edu (Amara Tremongkol Naksathit)
Subject: Thai elephant
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:31:45 GMT