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From: neilw@informix.com (Neil Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Stereotypical frustrating drivers
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:37:22 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <s1dtaINNo94@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> mike@gilligan.Sun.COM (Mike Roncadori - Information Resources) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.163336.21362@pictel.com> harling@pictel.com (Dan Harling) writes:
>>
>>I can't stand the ones who go to the front of an empty lane at a red
>>light and then go the wrong way, just to get past the other cars
>>waiting in the proper lane.  There is an intersection on the way home
>>from work where this happens all the time.
>>
>That or the folks who drive up to the very end of a merge lane
>before moving over (Usually happens on crowded roads, but I've
>seen people just cruise along ignoring the signs, then expect
>someone to be nice to them just because they are in a jam).

I get a kick out of these people.  If I'm a few cars back, I play
a guessing game to see if they're taking the very next exit (in
the case where the merging lane becomes an exit only lane, instead
of just petering out).  I can usually guess right about 90% of
the time.  Clues include anybody in a sedan, anybody with a hat,
and anybody staring straight ahead - these people will usually
do the last-minute merge.  Keeps me amused....

If I'm cruising along in the right lane and one of these guys comes
up beside me and cruises along with me, it's even more amusing.  I
pull ahead just a bit to make sure they can see me, and just maintain
my speed.  Inevitably their lane runs out, they get that panicked
look, then hit the brakes to try to merge behind me.  Am I being
rude?  Maybe, but I'd rather not be behind them, and I'm not
going to tailgate the car in front of me to give them extra space
to merge to make their boneheadedness any easier for them.  Move to
left?  Sure, that's a given in light traffic, but not in heavy 
traffic or when my exit is coming up.

--Neil
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: uk09365@nx02.mik.uky.edu (robert i kesten)
Subject: Re: Photo Radar in New Jeresy
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:21:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Apr15.144302.7868@scott.skidmore.edu>  
jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (jonathan drout) writes:
> amb@cs.columbia.edu (andrew m. boardman) writes:
> > 
> > According to the front page of the Somerset edition of the  
Star-Ledger,
> > there's now a photo-radar setup on I-280 and one other place.
>    (WHERE!???) 
> > (It might not be too late to call and scream to your congress-critter  
if
> > you're a native...)
> > 
> > andrew
> Should we just walk up to the unit with a baseball bat and bash the
> shit out the it?
> 	YOurs, with tongue in cheek,
> 		Jonathan (a native NJian:)
> 			;)

Somewhere (maybe someplace in Texas) they had to encase the photoradar in  
armor and install bullet resistant glass over the camera lens
because the units were getting shot up so much.

RIK
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From: bphdarcy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SJ Roc D'Arcy, MBP)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos
Subject: Re: IRD?...Infra-Red-Detector?
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:14:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr14.163907.19746@wpi.WPI.EDU>, mishaal@wpi.WPI.EDU (Mashal Abdulra Almashan) writes...
>          In School with a new sophisticated speed measurement device called
>the IRD. It is an Infra-Red (heat detection) device that measures speed accur-
>ately to .1 MPH. It is a small round device that is being installed in grey/
>silver/blue 1992 &93 unmarked Mustangs and a limited number of State Cruisers.
>It was rumored to appear on April 1st. First known siteing was yesterday 
>4/8/92.  There is presently NO KNOWN DEFENSE against it OTHER THAN obeying the 
>speed limit. Feel free to pass this note around to others as a precaution. 
>Please strip headers before doing so. 



Time to whip a a few IR jammers.  
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: Peter A. Cohen <peterco@eff.org>
Subject: Re: Best Roads to cross the USA on?
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
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Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:42:56 GMT

In article  SCHRAM BRIAN K, schramb@ucsu.Colorado.EDU writes:

>The best road in NE (Nebraska, i assume, since NE is the postal
>abbreviation)  would have to be I-80.  its long (500 miles)
>straight, and takes you right through the flatest part of the
>state as quickly and painlessly as possible.  And since they
>put the road right through the Platte (indian for flat water) River
>Valley, in the summer, you get tons of bug juice on your winshield.
>Its truly a driving pleasue.

Actually, this brings up a good point- I'd welcome any netters opinions
on what the best way to drive from San Fransisco to Boston are- which
roads to take, for a combination of speed, safety, and fun?  It will be a
close-to-middle-age woman and her faithful hound taking the trip in a
Mazda 323...


- Peter

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From: john@anasaz (John Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Covert radar gun under development.
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:11:21 GMT
Organization: Anasazi, Inc. Phoenix, AZ, USA

Keywords: 

In article <1992Apr14.174255.8513@linus.mitre.org> ptrei@bistromath.mitre.org (Peter Trei) writes:
]     I was at a radio ham gathering last night, and got a quick look
]at a ham newsletter (sorry, but I didn't write down the name). One
]small article concerned a radar gun manufacturer who was seeking FCC
]permission to develop (and presumably sell) a spread-spectrum radar
]gun.
]
]     I didn't get a chance to read the whole article, but apparently
]this is a frequency agile device which unpredictabley switches
]frequency hundreds or thousands of times per second. It's radiation is
]effectively invisible to a normal radar detector, appearing as an
]occasional blip which is rejected as static. It is also more difficult
]to jam.
]
]     Whistler has apparently filed objections on the ground that it
]could eliminate future development of collision advoidance radar for
]cars.

Not likely unless the collision avoidance radar uses the same spreading
code. This sounds like a nonsense objection.
]
]     Another objection (relevent to hams) is that it screws up part of
]a wide chunk of the spectrum where hams might want to experiment.

Wait a moment.... if it is not detectable, it ain't gonna screw up
the spectrum. It might, however, be more easily jammable by ham transmissions.
-- 
John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253  (602-951-9326)
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From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Female driving stats (Was: Re: Kill Biker....)
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:19:42 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

The _very_ worst adult driver I ever had the displeasure of riding
with was male, a former boss of mine.  I was glad he drove a 560SEL,
a nice substantial survival-enhancing car, and a part of me wished 
to be completely surrounded in three dimensions by air bags as well.

Time and compassion do not permit a full recitation of his exciting 
habits, but missing his turnoff in urban traffic and backing up half 
a block in the left-turn lane ought to give you the general flavor 
of the experience.  On a good day, the perimeter of his situational
awareness extended to the hood ornament and the dropoff of the trunk
lid, leaving only the bumpers unaccounted for.  I'm sure this makes
you motorcyclists feel especially cozy.

Thank God he quit to form his own company before the lease expired
on the Mercedes -- he was planning to ask that his next company car
be a Porsche.  

Admittedly, though, the worst woman driver I've known wasn't far
behind -- twice she's gone the wrong way down the four-lane.

No need to get sexist or racist about it -- PEOPLE tend to be bad
drivers!

--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
From: bill@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (William Logan Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: fog lamps
Keywords: humor
Date: 14 Apr 92 08:45:29 GMT
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia

In article <maurice.703069793@kraken> maurice@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Maurice Rich) writes:
>In Australia we have roos, wallabies, cattle, sheep, feral pigs, etc
>who seemingly delight in trying to find the shortest messiest route between
>the radiator grill and the dash that doesn't entail going over the bonnet
>(hood I think you americans call it ?)  This kamikaze critturs sit beside
>the road at night awaiting unwary motorists with underpowered high beams.
>Thus my penchant for aftermarket lighting !

Sunnuvvabitch!

The last accident that was "my fault" occurred between Sydney and Canberra
here in Australia. About 20km (12 miles) out of Canberra I dipped the high
beam on my lights (on my Leyland mini, that makes it go from about 5 watts
to about 2 watts illumination) for an oncoming car.  The kangaroo on the
other side of the road (2-lane highway) spots his chance and jumps for the
front of my car.  Out of the corner of my eye I just see this blur, and
Wham, I clip the shit-head kangaroo with the fender.  I stop and check the
damage on my car: fender written off, wheel guard missing and a strip of
white fur around the rim of the tire... So I go back about 100 feet, not
expecting to see anything.  In the ditch by the side of the road is a 'roo
and one leg looks like it's been folded up to put away. Damn, didn't have
my .22 with me, (it being technically illegal to shoot it anyway) and took
my trusty jack out of the boot (trunk) and beat the kangaroo to death.
Sorry, but there was no malice, and I was not about to let the thing die
slowly over a couple of hours.  Unfortunately I miss-estimated on the first
hit and it just sat there and looked at me.  

In the morning, I filled out an accident report with the local Police.
Later, when I filled out the insurance claim, I came to the question 
"Whose fault do you think the accident was" and I filled in "The kangaroo".
This did not stop them reducing my no-claim bonus - I guess they figured
I really did this on purpose.  It sure gave me some strange looks when I
visited the UK later and hired a car: they asked me if I had any accidents
in the previous two years and I said that I had hit a kangaroo.

Bill (Just-don't-run-out-on-the-road-in-front-of-me) Lee
From: mhr@porsche.sbi.com (Michael Ringbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Stereotypical frustrating drivers
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:49:00 GMT
Organization: Salomon Brothers Inc., NY

In article <1992Apr4.043819.10564@nmsu.edu>, jslatten@spock.NMSU.Edu (J Slatten) writes:
> I don't remember an Elmer doing this, but this seems to be a common habit of  
> Angelo Mario D'Guido.  How dare someone try to pass his '83 Monte Carlo!   
> Usually Angelo isn't so stiff necked ... he flips you off, screaming "fongoo!"  
> (phonetic) through the half-lowered tinted window.  
> 
> Dan 

The Mario D'Guido's of the world also can't stand to be anything
other than first in a line of cars at a stop light.  Even if their
destination is on the next block.




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From: Robert.M.McLennan@dartmouth.edu (Robert M. McLennan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Busted!
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:40:10 GMT
Reply-To: Robert.M.McLennan@Dartmouth.edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Damn that instant-on.  I'm driving 70 on I-91 in Massachusetts (speed
limit:  a whopping 55), and get nailed.  Cop wrote the ticket for 65
mph = $50 fine.  No big deal - bound to happen sometime.  My question
is, what policy does Mass. have with regards to reporting tickets to
other states?  I can handle the fine, but I'd rather not have this on
my record back in Illinois.  Also, what is standard insurance company
policy for tickets?  If this is reported, will it affect my rates?  (My
record is clean right now.)  Thanks in advance for the help.

Rob
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: brain damaged drivers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:28:40 GMT


In article <MATT.92Apr16100657@world.std.com> matt@world.std.com (Matt Saucier) writes:
>
>>      Damn left lane bandits!!
>
>
>Seconded!   
>
>[...]
>I continued north, and drove on MA-128 (Peabody->Essex) which is a
>four lane divided highway (2 each way), and I pulled up behind an OLD
>white pickup, in the left lane.  There was a car in the right lane,
>and he was passing.  No problem.  When he got clear of the car, he
>didn't move right (and he had about 1/4 mile on the car when I started
>getting REALLY annoyed)...  I was not tailgating, and I did not flash
>my lights for that 1/4 mile, and I finally decided that this guy was
>annoying me, for I wanted to go about 70 and he was going about 60...
>so I flashed my lights... he pointed to the right lane...  I stayed
>behind him and flashed again, and he pointed to the right again.  Now
>I was annoyed, and I'll bet he was too... Oh, I forgot to mention...
>there was _NO_ traffic on the right at all at this point.

[Remainder of story omitted.]

It is for reasons like this that I have long ago given up in trying to
"educate" other drivers. The people who hog the left lane or otherwise
drive stupidly are generally too clueless to understand what you're
trying to tell them. After all, there is only so much bandwidth
available in a pair of flashing headlights, and for those who don't know
the "code," flashing lights are meaningless at best. The few who DO understand
what you mean know full well they should be in the right lane but are simply
being *ssh*l*s on purpose, so the results are the same. I just wait for an
opportunity and get as far away from the idiot as I possibly can.

One of these days perhaps I'll run into one of these vehicles parked in
a rest stop somewhere and perhaps I'll leave them a little note on their
windshield... Perhaps a collection of these Usenet postings which I
carry around in my car at all times just in case such an opportunity
should ever arise. ;-)


Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Dean Cookson)
Subject: Re: Female driving stats (Was: Re: Kill Biker....)
X-Post-Machine: victoria.scl.cwru.edu
Organization: Smith Undergrad Lab, CWRU, Cleve. OH
Distribution: rec.driving
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:52:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.052804.21377@cs.ucla.edu> noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry) writes:
>
>i hate to say it, but as soon as i see permed, fluffed, dyed blond hair
>at the wheel of a convertible, i'm outta there.  ditto for a silk tie at
>the wheel of a mercedes 2-seater.  and a hat peeping out from the wheel
>of a lumbering, ancient land yacht.  need any more stereotypes??
>
Does the disembodied set of knuckles I saw driving an early eighties,
powder blue Volvo station wagon earlier this week count?

Dean

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: sgccmjw@citec.oz.au (Mark Wilton 23313)
Subject: brain damaged drivers 
Organization: CITEC
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:04:36 GMT

I was just wondering why there are so many BAD drivers in Queensland
they seem to do really illogical things like

1) Use the indicators (if your lucky ) after they do a lane change
  in front of you
  (to me the word indicate means to indicate one's intentions ie before
   you do it)

2) people drive faster in the wet
   Once at night i was driving on the freeway in the rain i was in the
  fast lane (thats on the right in AUZ) doing 100Km/h (the limit)
   when really i should have been doing less due to the conditions
  there was no other traffic except for this bike who was behind me
   eventually he came round on the left and did a couple of sentences
   worth of obscene gestures to me and then sped off like a mad man

  I couldnt help thinking the following

  1) Like why didnt he just change lanes and go (it wasnt crowded)
  2) Like how fast do you wanna go on a bike in the dark and in the
     rain.

  3) This guy is a brain damaged motorcyclist (or probably will be soon
     when he hits something at about 130Km/h)


3) Once i was waiting at a give way at a round about some granny was on the roun   d about and actually STOPPED for me (where do these people learn to drive)

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From: little_re@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: brain damaged drivers
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:10:46 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

>>   Once at night i was driving on the freeway in the rain i was in the
>>  fast lane (thats on the right in AUZ) doing 100Km/h (the limit)
>>   when really i should have been doing less due to the conditions
>>  there was no other traffic except for this bike who was behind me
>>   eventually he came round on the left and did a couple of sentences
>>   worth of obscene gestures to me and then sped off like a mad man
> 
> What the hell were you doing in the fast lane with no other traffic
> on the road?  Perhaps you feel that it's your duty to slow other vehicles
> when you're not comfortable going any faster yourself.
> 
> If it was possible for someone to pass you in one of the slow (outside)
> lanes, you were obviously in the wrong.  Nothing is more anoying than
> someone who pulls onto a highway, immediately moves over to one of the
> inside lanes and just sets the cruise control.  What a no-brainer.
> It is also much more dangerous to force others to pass in the slower
> lanes.

   That's why car makers invinted head lights!!  You can easily flash them
at the slow idiots in the left lane and hopefully get their attention so
they will pull over.  

   Damn left lane bandits!!


     Rich Little	    ::  A hot-rodder is someone who is completely 
     LITTLE_RE@LRC.EDU	    ::    baffled by people who are NOT into cars!
     Theta Xi Fraternity    ::
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From: cunico@acsu.buffalo.edu (Robert P. Cunico)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Best, scenic roads DC to Miss.
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:25:36 GMT
Organization: UB


	Towards the end of this month I am planning on 
travelling from Washington DC to Hattiesburg Mississippi. 
Perhaps some of you good folks out their in netland can 
recommend roads offering scenic vistas and local historic 
sites. I expect to be in no particular hurry. 
	Also, I need recommendations on cheap accomodations 
in the metro DC area.

					Bob Cunico
					acsu.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos
From: kenny@juniorx.osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: IRD?...Infra-Red-Detector?
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:52:51 GMT


THIS IS A HOAX, folks. Don't believe it.

	-Kenny
-- 
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kenny@osf.osf.org	OSF doesn't make me say any of the above.
From: randy@rls.UUCP (Randall L. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: fog lamps
Keywords: humor
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:56:10 GMT
Organization: The Internet


I just got a fortune cookie that just fits the bill.   I love it.

> Fog Lamps, n.:
> 	Excessively (often obnoxiously) bright lamps mounted on the
> 	fronts of automobiles; used on dry, clear nights to indicate
> 	that the driver's brain is in a fog.
> 
> 	See also "Idiot Lights".
 
How true, how true.

Cheers!

- randy

randy@rls.uucp  <backbone>!osu-cis!rls!randy  rls!randy@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
It's a fax from your dog, Mr. Dansworth.  It looks like your cat.  - Larson
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup)
Subject: Re: trouble with the Texas Highway Patrol
Organization: Software Tool&Die, (Boston), MA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:55:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr09.161056.3845@lloyd.Camex.COM> ma@lloyd.Camex.COM
(Mary Ann Purcell) says:
>I guess you guys haven't heard of the forfiture law.  You might not be
>arrested but your car might.

>In the war on drugs, they can stop you, question you, 
>take you stuff(car, money you have on you if it's a large enough sum) and
>send you on your way.

This happened to a friend of mine's brother here in Boston. He was a passen-
ger in a car, (with another passenger and the driver, of course) that got
pulled over on a traffic stop. Cop sees three young Black guys, decides to
run a search. Turns out that the other passenger (unbeknownst to the others,
and I know them well enough to believe them) had something on him. So, after
cuffing the other passenger, gets to him, and he has his cashed paycheck on
him. The cop figures this is "drug money", and takes it, no reciept, nothing
to prove how much was given, under the threat of being run in with the other
passenger.

Much as I'd like to see the poison taken out of my community, I agree with
everyone else that the W-o-D has gotten way out of hand, and is focused in
the wrong direction. You kill the mother *before* she lays her eggs, instead
of going after all the offspring one at a time.

-- 
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16 Plainfield St. Jamaica Plain, (Boston), MA 02130-3633
Home +1 617 524 5929 	Home Fax +1 617 983 9410
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles
From: kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup)
Subject: Female driving stats (Was: Re: Kill Biker....)
Organization: Software Tool&Die, (Boston), MA
Distribution: rec.driving
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:44:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr09.191809.29707@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com
(Jonathan E. Quist) says:
>Point of order...  The more recent statistics in the U.S. are beginning
>to indicate that young, _female_ drivers are now being overrepresented
>in accident statistics.

I remember seeing this in the Boston Herald. I was going to post the article.
I still have it, maybe I should.

>I don't think any conclusive reasons have been invented yet, but one
>opinion ... was that young female drivers
>have become much more aggressive than they were in the past.

Based on personal experience in Massachusetts, anyway, I really don't think
so. Female drivers seem to be the most timid and slow of most categories
around here. I personally thought it was simply higher numbers due to in-
creased numbers of women driving as more enter the workforce. In fact,
my article pointed out that there were marked differences in the driving
pattern of women vs. those of male drivers.

(Actually, the number of close calls I've had indicate to *me* that the
higher rate is due to poor driving patterns, but hey, whatta I know?)

-- 
Kenny Crudup, Unix Systems Consultant	kenny@world.std.com
16 Plainfield St. Jamaica Plain, (Boston), MA 02130-3633
Home +1 617 524 5929 	Home Fax +1 617 983 9410
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