From: dlg6627@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darmawan  Ludirdja)
Subject: Re: East Timor Communist ? NOT!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:50:08 GMT

chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC) writes:

>In article <1992Apr17.053050.21172@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dlg6627@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darmawan  Ludirdja) writes:

>>>>Anybody who against their government in ANY country might be trial in
>>>>court and if found guilty WILL be executed.
>>
>>>Not true.  FYI, a number of countries, the death penalty is banned.
>>>Also, in most Western democratic countries, it is an acceptable
>>>practice to criticise and oppose the govt.  Afterall, that is 
>>>what a democratic country is supposed to have.
>>
>>Not true??? Do you mean "executed" = "death penalty" ??

>Give him a fact and he answers with a question, sigh....  Of course, 
>execution is the death penalty.  What do you think it is?

Do you know that there are death penalties even here in the USA?
Aahhhh you are in NZ!. Pardon me. 

>>Are you saying there is no democracy in Indonesia?

>Personally, I don't care whether democracy exists in Indonesia. 

I like this attitude!. That's why I say shut up!
 
>I am just voicing my disapproval for the human rights violations there.

Do you think I'm agree with human right violations?? Why did Indonesian
government sacked two generals if the govt. doesn't care of human right?
Note: I don't need your speculation !. If you don't know for sure
      just shut up!. Defenitely I don't want your suggestion!!!!

>>Gimmeeee a breakkkkk. We (Indonesian) don't need your suggestion!
>>   That's why I told you to shut up.

>I don't even care if *YOU* don't want any of my suggestion.  Just
>don't bully your neighbour (East Timor).  Who knows, today, it is
>Timor, tomorrow, it may be Singapore or Malaysia.

Probably not Singapore but I wish M*l*ysi*.....hahahahahahah
ooooppppsss I mean S*r*w*k.......hehehehehehe. I would love to see that
:-). There could be a lot of jail houses and slaughter houses over there
soon(?)....hehehehehe. Be ready :-).

>>>If you don't want to see any of my posting, press
>>>the kill button.  I will not shut up when human rights are being 
>>>abused, whether it is in Malaysia, Indonesia or anywhere else
>>>in the world.
>>
>>Do you think I want to see your posting? Haahhh too good for you.
>>If I'm the only one who don't want to read your bullshit then I
>>will put the kill command. Unfortunately for you! Too many Indo-
>>nesian don't want to see your posting and don't want to reply to
>>your posting. 

>Let me hear it from them.  Silence implies agreement.  

I told Eduardo, Indonesian students don't like bullshit! Your bullshit
is smelly.

>Also, I don't
>care whether you or anyone else don't like to see my postings.  I 
>have access rights to Net News and just too bad you people have to
>read it.  You lot are not the only ones reading this newsgroup.

I told you again you're bullshitting again. You know what a few days 
ago there are Malaysians (?) who post STOP IT article. Don't you feel
asshame? Maybe not since I still read your post while your country 
mate yelling STOP IT.

>>Heheehhehe. You're under arrest :-) You will be sent to a jail house
>>or to a slaughter house soon. Good bye. .....Hehehehehe.

>Yep, typical attitute of the Indon govt's policies.  

Hehehe.....Cool man.....I'm in no way related to Inodnesian govt.
I'm not even a politician. Are you?

>Jail them, 
>or shoot them, and then laugh at them.  

Hehehehe....I would really love to see you in a jail or perhaps sh**t you :-)

>Is this what you want to
>export Zam?  No wonder some Indonesians were banned from the
>SEASIA-L list.

Wrong again. Perhaps the other way. :-)

>Anyway, there is not much point in pursuing this arguement.  Its
>turning into more of "I don't agree with you so shut up" than 
>intelligent discussion.  What a waste of grey and white matter.

Do you think you are intellegent enough????hahahahahahaha
I told you to shut up and I'm glad there is a sign for that.

>The oppressed will always fight the oppressor.

Good luck :-) & Stay cool.

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>Te Whare Wananga O Waitaha | One People." - | Hockey team for gold in 
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Darmawan
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