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From: laurelh@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Laurel Hellerstein)
Subject: Re: payment for GRA-position
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 18:43:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.163639.20377@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> schnier@tnt.uni-hannover.dbp.de writes:
>
>I am a German student, finishing my diploma on electrical engineering next month.
>I`ve applied for a graduate research assitantship somewhere in Virginia, and I really 
>hope I could get that job. I don't know much about prices and payment in the US., 
>so I have 3 questions:
>
>They offered me 1400$/month, and they pay my tuition (They say I don't have to pay taxes).
>
>1. Is 1400$/month + tuition a fair offer ? Or is it to low (or to high :-) ?
>

$1400 a month is more than some junior faculty or lectureres with Ph.D.s
make in the United States.  You don't say where your offer came from
but depending on location in VA (rural vs city) it could be a fortune
or slave wages.

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    Laurel Hellerstein,Ph.D             Laurelh@titan.ucc.umass.edu
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    Cable Network                       FAX (413) 545-2232
From: theresa@ics.uci.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: Applying to graduate schools
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:07:42 GMT

Before you decide to email requests for application info from schools, please
do all graduate counselors a favor.  If you are looking only for a program that
admits students into a master's program, do your homework before you post.
The info can be found in the Peterson's Guide to  Graduate and Professional
Schools, which can be found in your local library.  UCI gets dozens of requests
from uninformed individuals for an application to our master's program.  The
problem is that UCI rarely admits students just for a master's degree, regardless of the department you are applying too.  The ICS department is dedicated to
research and so only admits students interested in earning a Phd.  I hate to see
students wasting their hard earned money applying to the wrong programs.

Issues to consider before applying:

-- Do I want to end up with a Master's or a PhD degree?  Generally speaking,
   the two are distinctly different.  The Master's is geared towards understan   ng and application; the PhD is geared towards developing researchers and
   problem solvers.  Each program is different, of course, and it is best
   to write to schools that look interesting.

-- What area do I want to concentrate on?  That may help you to  narrow down
   the schools that you look at.

-- Where do I want to live (what part of the country?)?.  To some this may
   not be an issue, but you may want to consider it for a moment, anyway.

-- Am I really mature enough to dedicate the next five-seven years of my
   life to poverty and academic study?

-- Why are you really seeking an advanced degree?  Prestige?  If so, you
   will need to delay that for five-seven years.  Money?  Hard to argue
   with, but will the sacrifices you need to make really be worth it?
   Can't find a job?  A Phd program is not a short-term investment.  These
   individuals are easy to spot, and easy to ignore in the application
   process.

Applying to graduate school takes quite a bit of time, money, and thought.
Each school--College or University--is looking for something different in
applicants.  It is best to contact the school to gather specific info about
the programs.

Good luck!!!
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: smitra@sophia.smith.edu (Sramana Mitra)
Subject: Univ of Edinburgh
Organization: Smith College
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:48:40 GMT



If there is anybody from Univ. of Edinburgh, please send me email at smitra@
sophia.smith.edu. I need to find out an email address ASAP.

Thanks,

Sramana Mitra
From: schnier@tnt.uni-hannover.dbp.de (Thorsten Schnier)
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
Subject: payment for GRA-position: Thank You !
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:28:29 GMT
Reply-To: schnier@tnt.uni-hannover.dbp.de
Organization: Universitaet Hannover, Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik

In article 20377@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de,  I wrote:
>
>I am a German student, finishing my diploma on electrical engineering next month.
>I`ve applied for a graduate research assitantship somewhere in Virginia, and I really 
>hope I could get that job. I don't know much about prices and payment in the US., 
>so I have 3 questions:
>
>They offered me 1400$/month, and they pay my tuition (They say I don't have to pay taxes).
>
>1. Is 1400$/month + tuition a fair offer ? Or is it to low (or to high :-) ?
>
>2. What is the style of live I can afford with 1400$/month ? 
>  (10 sqm room + old vw-kaefer + bread + water ?) 
>
>3. (this one is especially for German students:)
>  Basierend auf Kaufkraft und Lebenshaltungskosten, welchen Umrechnungskurs $/DM muss
>  ich rechnen (1:1, wie Freunde mir sagten ?)
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Thorsten Schnier		   Universitaet Hannover
>				   Institut fuer Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
>				   und Informationsverarbeitung
>schnier@tnt.uni-hannover.de        Appelstrasse 9A
>fax:    +49-511-762-5333           D-3000 Hannover 1
>phone:  +49-511-791817             Germany
>





Thank you to everyone who send me his/her opinions!

Your letters showed me that 1400$ is a very good offer and that I don't have to worry
to much about the costs of living.

 
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Thorsten Schnier		   Universitaet Hannover
				   Institut fuer Theoretische Nachrichtentechnik
				   und Informationsverarbeitung
schnier@tnt.uni-hannover.de        Appelstrasse 9A
fax:    +49-511-762-5333           D-3000 Hannover 1
phone:  +49-511-791817             Germany
Newsgroups: soc.college.grad
From: ravens@wam.umd.edu (Raven Silverthorn)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: WANTED...Email address
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:04:25 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

Just wondering if anyone knew the e-mail address of Elon College in North
Carolina.  They just got internet access this year, so I'm figuring that
they're not in the FAQ yet.  Speaking of FAQ's could anyone either e-mail
me the FAQ or send me the ftp address of where the FAQ is stored.

-Raven
ravens@wam.umd.edu
From: kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: I don't give a damn...
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:23:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Sep9.035306.9430@news.nd.edu> smaurer@artin.helios.nd.edu (sean maurer) writes:
>...about your open mike in Houston, I live in South Bend, Indiana figure out what groups you are posting to idiot.
>
>...about your fucking lacrosse equipment, actually I do...if you are willing to come to Notre Dame to pick it up I'll give it to yo free.
>
>...about much but I do care about soc.college and I wonder where all the college net socializers are, where have you gone Joe Dimaggio a harker turns his lonely eye to you...
>
>Please post something interesting, yes I mean you.
>
>
>--
>Sean Maurer smaurer@artin.helios.nd.edu

 Well, Sean, since you go to ND, I am looking forward to the ND-Purdue game.
Sure, it hasn't been much of a series lately, but htis year, who knows????

All I care is that you guys can beat everyone on your schedule by 50 pts/gme.
but if ND beats Purdue(as they probably will again this year), I will be
mad.....

Scott Kramer      kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu
Xref: sparky soc.college:3825 soc.college.gradinfo:1311 soc.college.grad:1806
Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.college.gradinfo,soc.college.grad
From: leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee)
Subject: Re: Degree Designations
Organization: University of Toronto
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:16:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.115803.28699@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> chaas@coe.drexel.edu (Chuck Haas) writes:
>From: Paul Fu, quark@pabst.bu.edu
>In article <95755@bu.edu> Paul Fu, quark@pabst.bu.edu writes:
>
>As to the difference between the M.S. and the M.Eng., it very much
>depends on the university.  Often, in universities that offer both, the
> ......
	Yes.... in my university, M.Eng. is primarily meant for
part-timers (you can also do it full time )
and can be done by course only where M.A.Sc (Applied Sci.)
is a research degree which requires a thesis plus some course work;
a person holding M.Eng does not qualify for the PhD program here
though.

>
>Charles N. Haas
> Betz Professor of Environmental Engineering
> Drexel University; Philadelphia


Raymond Chik
VLSI Research Grp.
Dept. of Elec. Eng.
U. of Toronto
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: elee74l@rosie.uh.edu (X)
Subject: UH "Open Mike"  9/11/92
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:47:00 GMT

The University of Houston is having an "Open Mike" on 9/11/92.
If anyone is interested, please come and express your viewpoint
on ANY issue, such as the GOP, pro-choice, pro-life, gay rights, 
family value, environmental issues, etc, etc, etc...

It is going to be held in the University Center Saterlite from
noon to 1 p.m.  at University of Houston (central campus).
This program is sponsered by the Student Program Board (SPB) as part of
the membership drive.

If you have any question, e-mail to elee74l@jetson.uh.edu

-Ken N.
From: sprb_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Michael Sperber)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Need email addresses
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:08:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Hello everyone, just a real quick question:
Does anyone know the email addresses for Clark University in Worcester, MA
and Wellesley College(or University, I can't remember) in Wellesley, MA (just
outside of Boston)??

Please email to                   
	sprb_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
    or  sprb_ltd@db1.cc.rochester.edu

Thanks,
Mike Sperber

-- 
                              Michael Sperber     
                       		   KA1VCN 
		           University of Rochester 
Medical Emergency Response Team			Brighton Vol. Ambulance
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: gdsimpso@unix.amherst.edu (GILBERTO DANIEL SIMPSON)
Subject: Latino E-Mailing List
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:25:49 GMT

 
        Hola Folks,
 
        Me llamo Gilberto y soy el co-chair de La Causa, el grupo Latino de
Amherst College. I am writing to tell people about a computer mailing list
which was started last semester to try to foster communication between Latino
students (as well as other interested people) across the country. The list has
been relatively successful and has over a hundred subscribers around the world.
        People have used it to share information about social/academic events
held on college campuses, scholarship and research opportunities for Latino/
Hispanic students, and current events connected to Latinos, both in the United 
States and in Latin America.
        The intended focus is on issues of concern to Latino students, but
anyone's input or participation is welcome. The membership is diverse and 
includes people of many different nationalities and occupations. Several members
have connections with other Latino organizations and computer networks and so
this list can give its membership access to a wide range of quick, reliable
information.
        If the list continues to grow, it has the potential to create a large
network of students accross the country and facilitate the progress of la raza.
Its strenth depends on an increasing membership who can take advantage of the
possibilities of electronic communication.  
 
        If you are interested in becoming a subscriber to this e-mailing list,
or if you have comments for thelist administrator,  all you have to do is send
a note to the following address:
 
        LATINO-L-REQUEST@AMHERST.EDU 
and say that you want to join.
 
        While you are subscribed, if you want to send a message to the entire 
membership of the list (like a piece of interesting news, a question you might 
have, an announcement that might benefit Latino students etc.) then write to:
 
        LATINO-L@AMHERST.EDU
 
        In case you are not interested, please forward this file to someone who
you think might want to participate; in that way, you can at least help the list
grow and develop.
 
Hasta Pronto
        -Gilberto       

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From: smaurer@artin.helios.nd.edu (sean maurer)
Subject: I don't give a damn...
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:53:06 GMT

...about your open mike in Houston, I live in South Bend, Indiana figure out what groups you are posting to idiot.

...about your fucking lacrosse equipment, actually I do...if you are willing to come to Notre Dame to pick it up I'll give it to yo free.

...about much but I do care about soc.college and I wonder where all the college net socializers are, where have you gone Joe Dimaggio a harker turns his lonely eye to you...

Please post something interesting, yes I mean you.


--
Sean Maurer smaurer@artin.helios.nd.edu

Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
From: hhuang@linus.mitre.org (Howard Huang)
Subject: Re: Help!!! Need books to study for GRE CS Subject Test.
Organization: Research Computer Facility, The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:33:18 GMT

sploke@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (;-}) writes:

   I am going to take the GRE CS subject test this OCT. I remember last time
   I read someone's news saying that he couldn't find any other books to study
   except  ACRO's. 

   I have the same problem, I can only get the practice book from REA
   ( Research & Education Association ). 

I thought the REA book was poorly done and wouldn't recommend it.  The
ARCO book looks better.

You should try to get a copy of the "Practicing to take the GRE" book
from ETS.  There are two of them available, each containing an actual
GRE CS test.

Also, try to find good textbooks on the major areas covered on the
GRE: theory, hardware, systems & programming, discrete math.
--
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|                                Howard C. Huang                              |
|                            hhuang@teton.mitre.org                           |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Xref: sparky soc.college:3820 soc.college.grad:1804 soc.college.gradinfo:1309
From: chaas@coe.drexel.edu (Chuck Haas)
Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: Degree Designations
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:58:03 GMT
Organization: Drexel University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2

From: Paul Fu, quark@pabst.bu.edu
In article <95755@bu.edu> Paul Fu, quark@pabst.bu.edu writes:

>Does anyone have an explanation for the distinction of Ph.D. vs. D.Eng.
>degrees? (And similarly, M.S. versus M.Eng.)  I know what the *letters*
>mean, I are a college student after all... but what's the difference, and
>which should I go for to prepare for a particular career?

Historically, the Ph.D. was viewed as a research oriented degree in
engineering, while the D.Eng. was viewed as a degree aimed at those who
wished to go into engineering practice.  Frequently, universities that
offered both degrees required a thesis (contribution to original
knowledge) for the Ph.D., while the solution of a significant problem
(i.e. development of a novel design) was the requisite for the D.Eng.

However, not very many universities currently offer the D.Eng., so that
the distinction is rapidly evaporating.

As to the difference between the M.S. and the M.Eng., it very much
depends on the university.  Often, in universities that offer both, the
M.Eng. is an ABET accredited degree (with resulting very strict
curriculum requirements) while the M.S. is not (affording more
flexibility, particularly in relative new or interdisciplinary areas).

Hope this helps.

Charles N. Haas
 Betz Professor of Environmental Engineering
 Drexel University; Philadelphia
Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.college.grad
From: quark@pabst.bu.edu (Paul Fu)
Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.college.grad,soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Degree Designations
Summary: PhD DEng MS MEng?
Date: 11 Sep 92 05:02:12 GMT
Reply-To: jnorton@wilkes1.wilkes.edu (Jarrod Norton)
Followup-To: soc.college
Organization: Wilkes University

Hello...

Does anyone have an explanation for the distinction of Ph.D. vs. D.Eng.
degrees? (And similarly, M.S. versus M.Eng.)  I know what the *letters*
mean, I are a college student after all... but what's the difference, and
which should I go for to prepare for a particular career?

Thanx...

"It's too late for this."
Jarrod Norton
Station Manager, WCLH-FM


Newsgroups: soc.college
From: Brennan.J.Murphy.53@nd.edu ()
Subject: College Marketing Reps Wanted
Followup-To: soc.college
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:15:51 GMT



I am looking for bright college students who are interested in being a
marketing representative at their respective schools.  The job entails
promoting the Wall Street Investment Challenge. For more information, send
email to Brennan.J.Murphy.53@nd.edu.  In the subject line of the header
please include the school you attend, for example, Info Request--Univ. of
Notre Dame.
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell)
Subject: Frat poll
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:38:18 GMT

Hazing has been made illegal in many states. Many (most?) national
fraternites have banned it? My question is: does it still go on?
To what extent as compared to before? I would like to take a poll
of all frat members or anyone who has pledged and not made it/finished.
Any poll contributions will be strictly confidential (unless stated
otherwise). Nor does anyone have to reveal the name of the frat.
I am curious if the hazing laws are being followed or if (and how)
they are being subverted or gotten around. Please send poll to:
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
BRI FARENELL			      	   "Canadians don't have a problem with
CLARKSON '95				    Canada's health care system. Only 
FARENEBT@CRAFT.CAMP.CLARKSON.EDU  	    Americans seem to."   ---anonymous 
A PC-HATING, PRO-LIFE, LIBERAL CARD-CARRYING ACLU MEMBER
=============================================================================
"We are not descended from fearful men...not men who feared to write, to
speak, to associate and to defend causes which were for the moment 
unpopular."		---Edward R Murrow


Xref: sparky soc.college:3826 soc.college.gradinfo:1312 soc.college.grad:1808
From: quark@pabst.bu.edu (Paul Fu)
Newsgroups: soc.college,soc.college.gradinfo,soc.college.grad
Subject: Re: Degree Designations
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:44:42 GMT
Reply-To: jnorton@wilkes1.wilkes.edu
Followup-To: soc.college
Organization: Wilkes University

Thank you to those who answered...

So, it seems, from what you are saying overall, is that a Ph.D./M.S. is
a more general degree, whereas D.Eng and M.Eng are special-purpose.

If this is so, it appears to me that for all intents and purposes the 
non- *.Eng track would be preferable overall.  If I'm mistaken please
let me know... 

--
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Jarrod Norton, Department of Materials Engineering, Wilkes University
	Station Manager, WCLH-FM New Music 91 / 90.7 FM    
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(real sig coming as soon as I remember where I put it. :P )
From: James_S._Bright.wbst129@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: living expense at V. P. I. at Blacksburg?
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:32:17 GMT
Reply-To: JBright.Wbst129@xerox.com


Sorry if this is a re-post. Not sure if it made it the first time.

To the request for info on living expenses at Virginia Tech (aka VPI) - I did
not get your email address. I'm a student there and I would be happy to help
you out with any info. Feel free to email me.

                         - James
			 jbright.Wbst129@Xerox.com

disclaimer: These views are strictly my own, are not meant to represent
Xerox, its associates, my parents, my school, nor my dog's.
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: gc14@ellis.uchicago.edu (Grace Putao Chang)
Subject: email address for Catholic U. of America
Keywords: address, email
Reply-To: gc14@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:50:22 GMT

Hi there, the subject says it all.  I'm looking for the email address of
Catholic University of America, in D.C.  It's not in the FAQ, so I was 
hoping someone out there could help me.
Thanks in advance.
:-)

email replies to:
gc14@ellis.uchicago.edu



Newsgroups: soc.college
From: aww57119@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Andrew Walters)
Subject: Re: IIT address
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:01:10 GMT

IIT is on bitnet. You should be able to get your person at:

<lastname>%IITVAX1.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU


-- 
Andrew Walters
aww@uiuc.edu
From: naraht@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Randolph J. Finder)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Service in College: Alpha Phi Omega
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:38:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: drycas.1992Sep11.213849.2029
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club


 
To continue to Service of Scouting in College: Alpha Phi Omega
 
Alpha Phi Omega is a co-ed National Service Fraternity.
 
Alpha Phi Omega's cardinal principles are Leadership, Friendship and
Service.
 
Alpha Phi Omega's program of service is directed to four areas:
Campus, Community, nation, and members.
 
There are about 350 active chapters of Alpha Phi Omega in the United
States and more than 225,000 students have chosen Alpha Phi Omega.
There are about 150 chapters of Alpha Phi Omega, Phillipines.
 
Alpha Phi Omega was founded by former Boy Scouts who wanted to
practice Scouting ideals in the college setting. They decided the best
approach was to adopt the Scouting tradition of service. Furthermore
the Scout Oath and Law were chosen as the guiding principles and they
are still today.
 
Until 1967 membership was open only to former Boy Scouts. As the
fraternity rapidly grew, it realized other college students had a
desire to render service and had beliefs similar to that of the BSA.
Membership is now open to any college student, male or female,
regardless of race, color, creed, or other fraternal affiliation.
Alpha Phi Omega is not a social fraternity. Our open membershiip
policy means that there are no selective or exclusive membership
requirements and there is absolutely no hazing.
 
Alpha Phi Omega maintains strong ties to its scouting roots. Each
chapter is required to have a Scouting advisor. Scouting heratige is
evident in the traditions and symbolism of this fraternity. Two
National officers of the BSA serivce on the Alpha Phi Omega National
Board of Directors. HOWEVER, the BSA does not finance or govern the
fraternity in any way. Service to Scouting is a major facet of
fraternity projects every year. Chapters sponsor Scout troops, staff
camporees and other functions, clean up Scout camps and assist in fund
raising.
 
 
 
While Alpha Phi Omega is currently in the United States and the
Phillipines, any appropriately sized college campus could be
appropriate.
 
The address of the Alpha Phi Omega National Office is
19401 E. 42nd St.
Independence, MO 64055-9932
 
There is an Alpha Phi Omega Mailing list called APO-L, which deals
with Alpha Phi Omega issues to which anyone may subscribe.
 
Send me Email for more information on any part of Alpha Phi Omega
including location of chapters, APO-L or anything else. I will be
happy to respond.
 
Yours in Leadership, Friendship and Service
 
Randolph Finder
Alumni Volunteer Alpha Phi Omega, (D.C. & MD) (Section 84)
(tnc!m0039@uunet.uu.net)

-- 
(naraht@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu)	| Leadership,Friendship, and Service
(vri_rjfin@dmis.ha.osd.mil)	|          Alpha Phi Omega
(tnc!m0039@uunet.uu.net)	| National (Co-ed) Service Fraternity
"Service to others is the rent that we pay for living on the planet"(quote?)
Newsgroups: soc.college