From: devin@frodo.colorado.edu (Sonja Orlavski)
Subject: Re: Perot and "electronic democracy" (was Re: Can we contact...)
Organization: Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research
Distribution: co
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:14:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.051914.22788@ncar.ucar.edu>, gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand) writes:
|>>  Barbara Dyker
|>>> Gary Strand
|> 
|>>> I take a deeply cynical view towards very rich people who want to be 
|>>> politicians. They have something up their sleeve far too many times to be 
|>>> trustworthy.

	At least you're not going to find anyone who's going to influence him
with money.  I like that prospect, a president who has the freedom to think
for himself (even if I don't agree with everything he says, at least he'd
have the freedom from puppet strings).

|>> More misinformation.  Who said Perot wants to be president?  Not him.  He's
|>> made it very clear he's not interested.  One could certainly theorize
|>> that's just a game - part of his richy trickery, but there is zilch to
|>> support that idea.
|>  Come on! He's playing the ultimate tease game (which, BTW, Tsongas played a
|>  little bit when he "waffled" on re-entering the race.) Given Perot's record
|>  as head of EDS, he's a person who likes to control the lives of others, and
|>  the pinnacle of that is the US Presidency. He's using this "only if the
|>  people want me" as a rationalization, pure and simple.

	Oh, come on.  "The pinnacle of controlling the lives of others is
the US Presidency."  Obviously you know very little about our government,
or you have some idealistic view of it.  Only an idiot would take the
Presidency because they wanted to control people.  Corporate power (which
Perot has) is much more powerful.

|>  I'm sorry, but even
|>  if 10 million people want him to be Prez, that leaves more than 200 million
|>  others who disagree.

	If there's enough voters to get him elected, then the majority of the
people who bother to vote must want him more than any of the other (sad,
IMNSHO) candidates, no?  (And again IMNSHO people who don't bother to vote
don't deserve to have their opinions heard.)

|>>> Put it this way -- he couldn't pay me enough to work for him...
|>> What makes you think he'd want to hire you?
|>  True, he wouldn't. I'm not too interested in working for a company that
|>  tries to run my private life. Unfortunately, short of leaving the US (and
|>  to where?) one can't "quit" a President Perot.

	President and Employer have two extremely different connotations, and
are two completely different situations.  The President-Citizen relationship
is very little like the Employer-Employee relationship.
	Besides, I think you missed the point of Barb's comment.

|>> I too would be interested in hearing less biased views on this campaign
|>> year than those of Gary NRA Strand.  
|>  A bit Bushian here, aren't we? "Card carrying member of the ACLU" and all
|>  that horsepuckey? Sorry for using my freedom of association with people
|>  you Don't Like.

	Um, Gary, your views are extremely biased, whether you like it or not.
And that has nothing to do with who you associate with.  I have an NRA
rating, and I have friends with guns, and I still think you're biased.

|>  Lastly, is this country in such lousy shape that we have to go with some-
|>  one like Perot? Are we really that desparate?

	Look at the other candidates.  I think so.

			-Devin

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