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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (We make money the ole fashioned way. We beat people for it.)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,talk.religion.newage,alt.paranormal
Subject: Re: INVASION!!!
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:01:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <57450@cup.portal.com>, mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson) writes...

Gary, let me put this to you lightly.  I was willing to give you a total
shadow of a doubt reading your article.  What I find to help me think
your story questionable, is the fact that your real parents keep 
coming back, and then being replaced, back and forth.  This is not
highly improbable, but just plain, well, insane.  

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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: hoza@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (HOZA MARK R)
Subject: Re: UFO CONSPIRACY
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:13:30 GMT

I think that this information is accurate, but this is based only on my
intuition and feelings, which have resulted from what I've read in other
places.  I think that what Milton William Cooper has allegedly said is 
accurate.  I intend to investigate further, but this is my impression at
this time.  I welcome any leads to information on the subject of UFO's, or
advice for my research.

Mark

Xref: sparky alt.alien.visitors:2552 alt.slack:1493 alt.stupidity:1636 alt.exploding.kibo:208
From: crago_l@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: presidential sightings
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:29:32 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Fascinating trivia: on "Now It Can Be Told" Feb. 29, 1992, a report
on UFO sightings by famous people. John Lennon saw one in NYC, as
did Muhammed Ali. Also a recap of the officially reported sighting 
by then-Governor of Georgia, later President of US, Jimmy Carter.
Most fascinating was report by Ronald Reagan's personal pilot of a
sighting while in flight by himself and then-Governor of California
Ronald Reagan. According to the pilot it was a multicolored light,
bigger than the full moon, and it paced their plane. Film clips
of three later speeches given publicly by Pres. Reagan during 1988, one 
of them to the U.N., in which he repeatedly posed the curious
question, What would all our national defenses be if we were
threatened by "a power from outer space." Interesting that he would
keep bringing it up.
From: ullaha@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (friend)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Mach6 spy plane
Keywords: spy ufo plane
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:31:14 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

Reading the 'Sunday Mail' - came across an article-
a stealth spy plane reportedly operating out of a remote Scottish
US air base. The plane had reportedly been tracked at mach 3 ( some-
stealth) and reportedly capable of mach 6.
It apparently land upside down - to shield it radar reflective surface.
The town that it operates near is called (pprox) Machirainish.

Locals reported a ufo-
It looks like an oval flat disc apparently (hmm)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 12:42:46 CDT
From: <U55909@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: ELECTRONIC IMPLANTS MADE BY HUMANS
 <92106.134022IO10081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>

Very Interesting, indeed!  When I was the mall a few months ago, I received a f
lyer(so did every other car in the ENTIRE parking lot!) from a "religious" grou
p (sorry, i'm not sure) that stated that plans were under way in the Netherland
s (Banking Central of the world :-) ) to develop a sort of UPC code for humans!
(a.k.a elctronic implant?)  But there's more, It also said how every credit car
d has a special code (i'm not sure but Visa is 777, Am. Express is 999,etc.) an
d this new "UPC" code is 666!!!!  So they were stating that the asnti-christ is
not some stupid devil, but rather our fellow humans in power!  This is all from
memory, i'm sorry, but that was the theme pretty much!  Whaddya think???
From: pgf@usl.edu (Phil G. Fraering)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Me
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:18:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: nasa08.pgf.703361921
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana

ccasm@cc.newcastle.edu.au writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.172913.21985@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, pullen@cs.washington.edu (Walter D. Pullen) writes:
>> In article <1992Apr10.140520.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> ccasm@cc.newcastle.edu.au writes:
>>>In article <92094.112608IO00198@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, 
>>>>IO00198@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>>>> The number is 42, but it's not God, it's the answer to the meaning of the
>>>> universe.  But what the hell's the question ?!!?
>>>
>>>For all those who haven't seen Douglas Adams' HITCHIKERS GUIDE TO THE UNIVERSE
>>>trilogy: after millions of years of calculation by the most powerful computer
>>>the answer was indeed 42. The question had been forgotten by then, but was 
>>>assumed to be "the meaning of life". To find out the question they travelled
>>>back in time to observe it being written in the dust by primitive man:
>>>
>>>       6       x         8       =           ?
>> 
>> Shouldn't the question be 6 x *7* = ?                         
>>
>> ...crap deleted....
>>
>> hence the answer is 42!!!
>> 
>> (Of course, this is just my interpretation. :)
>> 

>Cheez! Some people are so serious they never see the irony !!!!
>Perhaps you could also have posted that the answer was wrong, = 48, not 42 :-)
>This point in Douglas Adam's (fictional) book was the futility of it all and
>the meaningless need to ask such pointless questions, like the one you just
>asked.  0 0
>         U
>        \_/


Not really. In Base 13,

6 x 7 = 42.

The Universe operates in base 13.

That's why everyone's luck is messed up.



--
Phil Fraering pgf@srl05.cacs.usl.edu 318/365-5418
"I'm a personal visionary. I can see into the future, only way off
to the side." - Stephen Wright
"How about a dragon that breathes neutrons instead of fire?  Kills the
elves, leaves the buildings intact..." - Nick Szabo
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: harti@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de (Stefan Hartmann)
Subject: Re: What do the _Greys_ *REALLY* want from us?
Keywords: Greys
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: tub
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:17:30 GMT

Hi,
is this a GREY alien, the GIF-picture at phoenix.oulu.fi (130.231.240.17)
in /pub/ufo_and_space_pics     alien.gif  ????

I heard it came from the 1947 UFO-crash at Roswell New Mexico (USA).

Was this a Grey who crashed over there or was this someone from the Plaiads ?

More infos are welcome !
Best regards, Stefan Hartmann.

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.slack,alt.stupidity,alt.exploding.kibo,alt.religion.kibology
From: hideo@sdf.lonestar.org (David Carter)
Subject: Re: It seems kinda simple to me.
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:19:17 GMT

Don't you mean Betty & Barney Rubble?
just asking.

David Carter           : URANUS: not truly a place
aka Hideo Gump         : where the Sun don't shine,
Dallas, Texas USA      : but certainly a place where
hideo@sdf.lonestar.org : the Sun shines dimly!


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From: hoza@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (HOZA MARK R)
Subject: Re: UFO CONSPIRACY
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:50:16 GMT

I made a call to KVEG am840 radio to ask about the Billy Goodman talk show,
which was mentioned by Milton William Cooper.  They said that they are a
"sports talk show, only."  The person whom I spoke with said, several times,
that their station does not have a "Billy Goodman" talk show at all.

Can someone help me on this issue.  I would like to hear this talk show if it
really exists.  Also, I am in Boulder, CO, and I can't get am840 because
KOA am850 is so strong.  Does anyone know what station I could listen to which
would have the Benny Goodman show in my area (again, if the show exists)?

Thanks,
Mark Hoza
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: pullen@cs.washington.edu (Walter D. Pullen)
Subject: Re: Me
Summary: Meaning of the universe
Organization: University of Washington Computer Science
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 17:29:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.140520.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> ccasm@cc.newcastle.edu.au writes:
>In article <92094.112608IO00198@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, 
>>IO00198@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
>> The number is 42, but it's not God, it's the answer to the meaning of the
>> universe.  But what the hell's the question ?!!?
>
>For all those who haven't seen Douglas Adams' HITCHIKERS GUIDE TO THE UNIVERSE
>trilogy: after millions of years of calculation by the most powerful computer
>the answer was indeed 42. The question had been forgotten by then, but was 
>assumed to be "the meaning of life". To find out the question they travelled
>back in time to observe it being written in the dust by primitive man:
>
>       6       x         8       =           ?

Shouldn't the question be 6 x *7* = ?

Seven, of course, is a better number anyway because of its mystical
properties. Actually, considering that "6" is considered to be the
number of man, and "7" is considered to be the number of God (i.e. as
in 666 and 777), then maybe this question can be interpreted as a
mathematical representation of the ageless question of the interaction
between man and God, between Creation and Creator, between the Yin and
Yang polarities. And of course, the ultimate answer to the meaning of
the universe, is the non-dualistic unity of the polarities, i.e. 6 and
7 combined; hence the answer is 42!!!

(Of course, this is just my interpretation. :)

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-   you my creation, My Perfect Love is your Perfect Freedom. And I will be   -
|   with you forever and ever, until the End, and then forever more." - GOD   |
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Xref: sparky alt.alien.visitors:2528 sci.space:7591
From: IO10081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (The Xanadian)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.space
Subject: Re: THE FEDERATIONERS HAVEN'T DIED!
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:11:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: MAINE.92107.121135IO10081
Organization: University of Maine System

I'm finding it hard to reply by mail... do you have an alternate address?
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: press2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barry.o.olson)
Subject: Re: INVASION!!!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 02:22:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.135719.12355@tellab5.tellabs.com>, jcj@tellabs.com (jcj) writes:
> In article <1992Apr4.014550.14207@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> press2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barry.o.olson) writes:
> >We are all pulling for ya buddy! keep up the good work, and
> >don't let the aliens steal your sanity.
> >I still watch CNN, but haven't seen anything weird or unusual
> >except they keep featuring Bill Clinton. Keep us posted!
> 
> The Lynn Russell clone has been neutralized!  Check out the *real*
> Lynn's haircolor now.

On my set it goes from a blurred/reddish blue to yellow!

> 
> Oh yeah!  Check this out!  I bought some dogfood and a bottle of seltzer
> at the grocery store and the total (with tax) was... $11.11 !?!??!!!!
> -- 

Better lay low. Them are preparing you for the clone switch!
Just to be sure, try buying something like a TV set and see
if they charge you $11.11 .
From: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Don Ecker and Phil Klass!!
Date: 4 Apr 92 02:50:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/428.0 - <ParaNet(sm) , Arvada CO


 * Forwarded from "ParaNet UFO Echo"
 * Originally from Michael Corbin
 * Originally dated 04-03-92 19:47

On April 24, 1992, MICAP (Multi-national Investigations Cooperative on Aerial
Phenomena), in conjunction with ParaNet Information Service, will sponsor an 
illustrated forum on contrasting viewpoints within the UFO research community. 
This forum will be moderated before a live audience with questions following 
the presentation.  The guests will be Don Ecker, Research Director for UFO 
Magazine and a long-standing contributor of ParaNet, and Phil Klass, avionics 
editor (retired) for Aviation Weekly and Space Technology, and known among the 
UFO research community as an avid detractor of the ETH (Extra-Terrestrial 
Hypothesis).  Ecker will demonstrate that the phenomena has a basis in reality 
and that it has potential implications for possible non-prosaic explanations, 
whereas Klass will demonstrate a prosaic/earthly explanation for mysterious and 
seemingly inexplicable UFO incidents.

The "square-off" will begin at 7:00 P.M., at the Denver North Holiday Inn 
Holidome at I-25 and 120th Avenue.  The title of the presentation is UFOs? 
Modern Myth, Manifest Technology, or ...?

This will be an interesting exchange of ideas and information and is expected 
to attract skeptics, believers and the intellectually curious.  For ticket 
inforamtion, please contact MICAP at (303)431-8796.  Hotel accomodations are 
available at reasonable rates.

--  
Michael Corbin - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
INTERNET: Michael.Corbin@p0.f428.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer)
Subject: Re: UFO meeting in Berlin
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 17:02:46 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <340@beyonet.UUCP> beyo@beyonet.UUCP (Steve Urich) writes:
>
>=>
>=>Meiner Erinnerung nach, war Armstrong Astronaut in der fruehern Tagen des US Space Program.  Ich habe nichts von seiner Roswell-Aktivitaeten gehoert.  Sind Sie sicher, dass diesen Mann gutglaeubig ist?  Entw. echt Astronaut od. echt Roswellzeuge?
              Nein, nein!  (That's all the German I know.)

>	There was a Neal Armstrong and I think a Virgil Armstrong that were
>	Astronauts. I vaguely remember Virgil (Astronaut) Armstrong, didn't
>	he die in a fire accident on the ground while they were waiting for
>	lift off? 
>	 
    Neal ARMSTRONG was an astronaut, as was the late VIRGIL Grissom, who
    died in the launchpad fire of Apollo 1.
-- 
  
        Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com
  
 Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized!

     "In the 1970's the world will undergo famines - hundreds of millions
     of people are going to starve to death in spite of any crash programs 
     embarked upon now ... in 1985, when it is calculated [under the most
     optimistic scenario] that the major die-back will be over, ..."
       
                       Dr. Paul Ehrlich, "The Population Bomb," 1968

Xref: sparky alt.alien.visitors:2553 sci.space:7623
From: jcj@tellabs.com (jcj)
Subject: Re: Mach6 spy plane
Keywords: spy ufo plane
Organization: Wazmodyne Industries
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:34:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.153114.18290@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> ullaha@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (friend) writes:

>... plane reportedly operating out of a remote Scottish
>US air base. The plane had reportedly been tracked at mach 3 
>... and reportedly capable of mach 6.

This sounds a little like "Aurora", a very black unmanned
project.  Anybody hear anything more?
-- 
		        jcj@tellabs.com
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.religion.kibology
From: kibo@world.std.com (James 'Kibo' Parry)
Subject: Re: The cascade from Hell rides once again...
Organization: A room filled with typography (in Boston's Back Bay)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:22:52 GMT

[alt.alien.visitors]
In article <1992Apr13.163826.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> ccasm@cc.newcastle.edu.au writes:
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How odd.  I don't recall B E R T and E A R N I E posting articles that
are 99% whitespace on "Sesamie Street".

Was E A R N I E the one who was wrongly charged with arson when Big Bird's
cigarette ignited his nest when he fell asleep?  Or was E A R N I E the
one with the scar?
								-- K.

Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: hoza@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (HOZA MARK R)
Subject: Re: UFO CONSPIRACY
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:40:41 GMT

anson@netcom.com (Anson Kennedy) writes:

>Argh!

>Not more Cooperisms!

>Please, make it all go away!
>-- 

>Anson Kennedy
>Secretary of the Georgia Skeptics (but don't even THINK I speak for them!)

>                  "If I had been the Virgin Mary, I would have said 'No.'"
>                                      -Margaret "Stevie" Smith (1902-1971)
                  
Oh, you Ninnie!  I'm no "Cooperism"!  I'm YOUR WORST NIGHTMARE!!!!

Hahahahahaa!

Just take a big breath and everything will be all right. ;)

Xref: sparky alt.alien.visitors:2513 sci.space:7551
From: asljl@acad2.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.space
Subject: THE FEDERATIONERS HAVEN'T DIED!
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:37:34 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska


Hi Remeber when a person put a note about a group wanting to go to the moon?
Yes they are still alive and well. They amazingly enough, have recieved
a lot of support from varying outlying areas. such as M.I.T < a group there has
been corresponding with them, Florida, amd Southern California. As it 
stands now they are in the process of making the blue prints to finance 
the project the spokeof earlier. For those of you who do not know what i am
talking about, the group is working on a way to get to space with out the 
assitance of nasa. The project is trying to create a drive crystal that if
succesful will go beyond using rocket fuel. It's a long description. I think it
could work. For those who are interested in an up date. The Dream is trying to
do a push up. It's been on its face for some time now but as about three weeks
ago it has been trying to do a push up. The project has been working on a 
way to finance this little jewel and they may have found a way. 
  In trying to think on how to create money for it. they deicied to create
2 microelectronic gagdets, These, if a patent is granted, may create the money
we need to build  the drive engine to get off this planet. Yes I am well a ware
of how this sounds. but one can hope and dream. At any rate I have written 
you all to see if any one of you are interested and to show that the group has
not died.   I hope that there are still some interested souls out there
who long for the stars and are interested in the group working on going
there. With out Nasa or the governments help. 

Yes the person writing this is none other than I, Lady Rhavyn.
Remember, Free will is the good of the cosmos, and may the force be with you!
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: sgamble@crc.ac.uk (Steve Gamble x3293)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Me
Date: 3 Apr 92 17:05:55 GMT
Reply-To: sgamble@crc.ac.uk (Steve Gamble x3293)
Organization: MRC Human Genome Mapping Project Resource Centre, Harrow, UK

In article <1992Apr2.225838.9244@DMI.USherb.CA>, paquj00@terre.DMI.USherb.CA (JEAN-FRANCOIS PAQUETTE) writes:
> 
> 	Hi, my name id R-94-N8.  Im an Alien living here since 1987.  I came
> from the planet Zora, and I have a special mission...  God does not exist as
> we imagine him;  In reality, God is a number.  And the goal of my inter-
> galactical trip is to find that number and then put it on floppy-disk 
> backup.
> 
> 	And when this day will be, the world will be saved.
>

This group is called alt.alien.visitors. If you have been living here since
1987 you no longer count as a visitor.

If you are an Alien then lets see some evidence. I have an entirely open
mind on this. Come on, convince me you are an Alien.

Should you not be an Alien, then find somewherelse to play like 
alt.mentality.three-year-old

Steve.

-- 
(Disclaimer: These are not my employer's opinions, they may not even be mine!)  
Steve Gamble, Computing Services,  
Clinical Research Centre, Watford Road, Harrow, Middlesex, HA1 3UJ, UK.
Phone: 081 869 3293  JANET: s.gamble@uk.ac.crc INTERNET: s.gamble@crc.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.binaries.pictures.misc,sci.space
From: harti@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de (Stefan Hartmann)
Subject: UFO-GIF-pics, how to get them !
Summary: ufo
Keywords: ufo
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:27:40 GMT


Hi,
as there are now some scanned UFO-sighting-GIF-pictures available at the
UFO-ftp-site at phoenix.oulu.fi (130.231.240.17), there are still many people
out there, who don't know how to access them.

Here is how to log onto phoenix and grab the pics:

ftp 130.231.240.17
anonymous
ftp
cd pub/ufo_and_space_pics
ls -l
prompt
binary
mget *.gif
quit

This is the sequence You have to type to get the UFO-GIF-pics from phoenix.

The ed*.gif -pics are from the book: UFOs, es gibt sie
from Ed Walters (German Edition, ISBN:3-426-26463-3)  (UFOs, they are here).

These are the currently best available UFO-pics from a real sighting in color.
The sighting took place in 1987 and 1989 in Pensacola,Florida in the Gulf Breeze
region (USA) and it is really worth reading the book !

alien.gif and ufohouse.gif are from the Maria Popovich book: UFO-Glasnost
It is also a good book to read.

Best regards, Stefan Hartmann,c/o Workshop for
Decentral Energy Research
email to: leo@zelator.in-berlin.de
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: galactic ftp sites
From: cse0935@desire.wright.edu
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:29:48 EST
Organization: Wright State University 



    Does anyone have a list of the newest inter-planetary/inter-glalatic
    ftp sites?

      thanks,  John Prikkel( cse0935@desire.wright.edu )



Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.slack,alt.stupidity,alt.exploding.kibo,alt.religion.kibology
From: chrisc@pro-harold.cts.com (Chris Carstens)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Re: Arithmetic
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:04:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-haro.d832880
Organization: The Harold Network -- Pro-Harold BBS -- San Diego, CA

I love your signature line.

"He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense."

As a health care manager and a psychologist, I have long believed and
argued that arithmetic is the heart of all of this.  Even algebra is
usually unnecessary, and statistics only serve to confound the obvious.  

Divide your budget by the number of workers.

Divide your scheduled hours by the number of people who want service.

Multiply your number of sales by the profit on the average sale.  

Pretty damn straight, this arithmetic.  Don't even need to know the
critical value of p to make a decision.  Just add, subtract, multiply or
divide and ask yourself, "How the hell do we make this work."

Thanks again.  And may I quote you?

Chris Carstens, Ph.D.
Kaiser Permanente
----
Chris Carstens
ProLine:  chrisc@pro-harold
Internet: chrisc@pro-harold.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-harold!chrisc