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From: grossjoh@sally.ls6.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Kai Grossjohann)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Sun printing to an Apple Laserwriter with Ethernet card
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:34:13
Organization: Universitaet Dortmund, Lehrstuhl Informatik VI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Kai Grossjohann <grossjoh@ls6.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
NNTP-Posting-Host: sally

Hi,

sorry if this is a FAQ:

We have several SunOS systems, a few Macs and an Apple Laserwriter printer. We
used to have a FastPath box but it was fried (literally, by the sun shining
through a window). Now we would like to print on the ALW without the FastPath
box. The new one is already ordered but slow in coming.

What would happen if we purchased an Ethernet card for the ALW? People tell me
that the ALW then understands "Ethertalk" only but the SunOS machines generate
TCP/IP, I think.

Is there any PD software that would enable us to let the SunOS machines
generate Ethertalk? How about CAP? Does that help us with that at all?

---

Hmpf... I think I was much too specific. More generally, our problem is that
we used to have this setup with the FastPath box connecting the TCP/IP and
AppleTalk and it worked all right. 

What (cheap) solutions do you suggest for letting the SunOS machines print to
the ALW?

Thank you,
		--Kai
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  W-4600 Dortmund 50         grossjoh@ls6.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
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                        -- D. Hofstadter
From: selina@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Selina Glynn)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: CAP60 problem
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:21:18 GMT
Organization: Defence and Civil Institute of Environmental Medicine

I installed cap60 on a Sun 4/25 and a Sun 4/670.  They both work fine.
When I moved the software from the Sun 4/670 to a Sidus Sparc 1 compatible,
I keep getting this error:

   abInit: [ddp:  16.207, 86] starting
   error -1096 getting zone list

I have checked the host IP address and the Cayman Gatorbox address, they
were both correct.  The setup of this machine is no different then the
above two machine.  Any ideas?  Does anybody has experience with Sidus
machine.  Any help would be appreciated.



Selina
-- 
	Selina Wong-Glynn, DCIEM, Canadian Forces Base Toronto 
UUCP:	   {decvax|ihnp4|watmath}!utzoo!dciem!dretor!selina
        or uunet!mnetor!dciem!dretor!selina or nrcaer!dciem!dretor!selina
Internet:  selina@dretor.dciem.dnd.ca
From: veloso@husc9.harvard.edu (Manuel Veloso)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Where to find CAP
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:41:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov9.094146.17241
Organization: Harvard University
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
X-XXMessage-ID: <A723E3AC4C011817@humcr3.harvard.edu>
X-XXDate: Mon, 9 Nov 92 14:45:16 GMT

>I'm looking for a complete and current CAP package. Any advice as to 
>where and how I can obtain this would be appreciated.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Troy Downing
>downing@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU

There's one (cap60, pl100->126) at gatekeeper.dec.com, in the
/.3/net/appletalk/cap subdir.

Manuel
From: glenn@misty.boeing.com (Glenn Cirlincione)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Software routing atalk->enet?
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:29:47 GMT
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane BCS Support

Apple's product can run on any Macintosh, but be warned that performance
for that Mac will vary depending on the network traffic and the size of 
your network.

Glenn
From: don@bodovipa.cis.brown.edu (Donald Wright)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: RTMP question
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:51:44 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Brown University
NNTP-Posting-Host: nocmac.cis.brown.edu

I hope this isn't a stupid question, but I haven't been able to find an
answer in "Inside Appletalk" or anywhere else I've looked.  If a FastPath
(Gator box, whatever) happened to be busy doing file transfer for instance,
could this affect the rate at which RTMP updates are sent, or is it
completely timer driven and/or has priority to send its packets.
The reason I ask is that I have a Novell 3.11 server on an ethertalk
segment with about 30 FastPaths.  The Novell box also happens to be a print
server to our campus network, but is separated from it via IP gateways. 
What we are seeing is print jobs from sites on the IP net are timing out
their connection to the print server and/or printer.
My question comes up because if I sit at the console of the Novell print
server and watch the RTMP table, the next hop route to any given IP site is
doing a 'musical chair routine' among the 30 some FastPaths.  Every 10
seconds or some the next hop changes nodes on the ethertalk segment!
If anybody has a clue on this one, I would really appreciate hearing it.
Thanks.


Don Wright, Network Systems Specialist    
Brown University, Providence RI
Internet: Donald_Wright@Brown.EDU
Phone:  (401) 863-7405
*** Talk is cheap, words plentiful, and deeds precious - Ross Perot ***
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: atalkatab.5 anyone?
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: 13 Nov 92 23:50:16 GMT

Does anyone have a copy of this?  I can't seem to find it.

Thanks!
Rich
From: 6489mcadamsj@vms.csd.mu.edu (John McAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Appletalk to PC
Date: 9 Nov 1992 23:48:57 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 6489mcadamsj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

Thanks very much for the info.  I'll call Farallon right not!
.John
From: dbarnden@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Dennis Barnden)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: PC LocalTalk Card Problem
Date: 12 Nov 1992 11:39:20 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


We have a LocalTalk net work which includes several IBM clones using
Farallon LocalTalk cards.
A problem occurs when one of the clones is printing a large print run
(130 pages or so) from dBase IV. If anyone else tries to print to the
same printer (either a LaserWriter IINTX or a Personal LaserWriter NT.
The problem occurs with both) the clone job is aborted, the clone hangs
and will not reboot. When reboot is attempted it gets to the point of
initialising the LocalTalk card and stops.
We have tried switching off at the wall and disconnecting the network
connection but the only solution seems to be to leave the clone switched
off for several hours.
We would like answers to two questions.
  1   Why is the print run aborted?
  2   Why will it not reboot?

The guy who uses the clone is getting a little frustrated and more and
more convinced that all Macs and associated equipment (and even the
operators) should be consigned to the dark side of the moon and a REAL
network that will never give any problems at all should be installed.

Any help at all would be very much appreciated.


Dennis Barnden
dbarnden@uniwa.uwa.edu.au

"Joe was not dead, he was only at the dentist."  G. Keillor  WLT
From: grossjoh@petty.ls6.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Kai Grossjohann)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Suns printing over Ethernet to an Apple Laserwriter
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:49:59
Organization: Universitaet Dortmund, Lehrstuhl Informatik VI
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Kai Grossjohann <grossjoh@ls6.informatik.uni-dortmund.de>
NNTP-Posting-Host: petty

I want to print to an Apple Laserwriter from computers on an Ethernet. Do I
have to be careful when purchasing an Ethernet card for the ALW about
incompatibilities between certain versions of Ethernet and CAP?
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  Kai Grossjohann            Phone (voice): 49 231 75 30 15
  Baroper Str. 331 App. 510  E-Mail: 
  W-4600 Dortmund 50         grossjoh@ls6.informatik.uni-dortmund.de
  Germany                    
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This sentence was in the past tense.
                        -- D. Hofstadter
From: lkimes@alshain.usc.edu (Lance 'Moof' Kimes)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: multiple phase2 zones on a network
Date: 10 Nov 1992 11:31:14 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: alshain.usc.edu


The is confusion around about how this works. Through reading, experience, and
mistakes, I have come to an understanding of AppleTalk. So here goes:

Every network range has a zone list that contains 1 or more zones.
This zones are completely "inclusive" to the net range. Zone names don't "span"
across networks per se.

Every router or gateway on  network maintains a zone information table that 
lists all zone names and their network ranges including networks that
"share" the same zone name(s).

What this means is that when a user does an NBPLookup of LaserWriter in "Zone"
"Ethernet", all networks that contain that zone in their lists will pass that 
lookup through so that nodes can answer back if their in that zone.

This gives zone names the appearance of "spanning" across network ranges.

Also, zone lists are never discarded or updated unless their network(s) are
completely removed from routing tables. Its a once and once only configuration
for the duration of a networks "uptime".

A special note to the guys using novell:
I once setup all the routers with a new zone list and then brought the network
back up. Well, it should have worked except that it didn't occur to me that 
the novell 3.11 servers would seed the network with the old zone list they had.
If you have novell 3.11 servers, you must coordinate them with any other routers
you have in order to change the network zone list.

Lance Kimes
From: sascha@sfb313.uni-kiel.dbp.de (Sascha Welter)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Localtalk -> Ethernet ???
Keywords: cap localtalk appletalk ethernet
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:33:33 GMT
Organization: SFB-313 University of Kiel, Germany

Hi there!

I've a question on submitting print-jobs from localtalk to an ethernet.

The problem is: we're running an localtalk net including one laser-
printer. Th localtalk net consists of 8 Mac's and they all want to
use the laser-printer. On the other side we have 4 workstations
connected to an ethernet and they want to use the laser-printer too.

So here is my question: 
Is it possible to print from the localtalk net to the ethernet, when
we attatch one of the Mac's to the ethernet, so he can work as an
printer server for the localtalk net. I've heard about CAP, but I'm
not shure for what it's able to. 
The Mac containing the ethernet harware should be usable for other work
while printing to the ethernet.

Does CAP solve my problem ???

Thanx, Sascha

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: tom@FANDM.BITNET (Tom Mahoney - Electronics and Networks)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: Crimping 10-Base-T wire
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:14:57 GMT
Organization: The Internet

>I have a new question.  How hard is it to crimp RJ-45s when only using 2 pair
>wire?  I believe 10-BASE-T requires using positions 1-2-3-6.  I was wondering
>if most people just use 4 pair wire because it would be easier to crimp.  I
>know this sounds wasteful, but I was thinking it might be easier.  And it's
>there's a bad wire you can work around it.

We buy 500' or 1000' spools of 4 pair level 4.  When installing station cables,
   we use all 4 pairs.  When making 10Base-T jumpers, I only use the green and o
   range pairs, cutting the blue and brown at the jacket.  It sounds like it wou
   ld be difficult to get the wires in the correct RJ45 slots for crimping, but
   it is actually quite easy.  Just make sure they're all in the right spot befo
   re crimping.

Remember to keep your pairs together.  No split pairs allowed here!

Tom Mahoney - Computer Electronics Technician
Franklin & Marshall College
Lancaster, PA  17604
(717) 291-4005
Tom@fandm.edu
Newsgroups: list.epixinfo,comp.protocols.appletalk
From: peter@merlin.acadiau.ca (Peter Steele)
Subject: CAP on CDC 4680
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:39:26 GMT

I am about to try setting up CAP on a CDC 4680, which is 
basically a MIPS box running a RiscOS 4.5 compatible OS.
I've already discovered that this is not one of the recognized
machines in the CAP installation notes. Has anyone tried to
set up CAP on a CDC/MIPS box?
--
Peter Steele        Unix Services Manager            peter.steele@acadiau.ca 
Acadia Univ., Wolfville, NS, Canada B0P 1X0  902-542-2201  Fax: 902-542-4364
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: mi@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Mark Interrante)
Subject: Unix server for ARA?
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:34:40 GMT


I was told that a program exists that allows macs running ARA
to connect into a unix machine.  Can someone give me  lead
on this?

Mark
ponder.csci.unt.edu or mfi@uxmail.ust.hk




Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: jeffc@comb1.comb.umd.edu (Jeff Clowser; IRG)
Subject: Re: multiple phase2 zones on a network
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Maryland, Center of Marine Biotechnology
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:22:00 GMT

In article <9211091328.AA24235@te6000.otc.lsu.edu>, mef@TE6000.OTC.LSU.EDU (Michael E. Fox (OTC - 203C D. Boyd)) writes...
>On Nov 7,  5:59am, Stephen C. Trier wrote:
> 
>> Under phase 2, there is no relationship between zones and network
>Also, our Apple engineer tells us that zones are not allowed to span
>what you call "cable" (sections divided by routers).  I don't see a
>reason why not?  Do you have a source for this info?
> 
>Michael E. Fox
> 
> 
This may not apply perfectly, but we have a Novell File server, running vrs.
3.11 with the appletalk NLMs.  Novell creates an "internal" router, using
2 network numbers - one contains the file server and internal router, the
other is the network outside the FS, which all the machines are on.  So,
from what I see, Novell is routing between whats internal and what's 
external.  My point being that they both have the same network names, and
show up as one zone.  This may be a special case, though.  We have multiple
zones here, connected by AIR over Internet.  I'll have to try changing the
zone names to match up and see what happens.

===============================================================================
Jeff Clowser		    			     "A keyboard... how quaint"
JeffC@comb1.comb.umd.edu
Network Administrator, Macintosh Technical Support
Information Resources Group, Maryland Biotechnology Institute
University of Maryland
From: lkimes@alshain.usc.edu (Lance 'Moof' Kimes)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: multiple phase2 zones on a network
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:12:38 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: alshain.usc.edu


In article <1992Nov10.212317.22514@novell.com>, cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch) writes:
|> In article <1dp2m2INNhna@alshain.usc.edu> lkimes@alshain.usc.edu (Lance 'Moof' Kimes) writes:
|> 
|> 	[excellent discussion of AppleTalk deleted...]
|> 
|> >A special note to the guys using novell:
|> >I once setup all the routers with a new zone list and then brought the network
|> >back up. Well, it should have worked except that it didn't occur to me that 
|> >the novell 3.11 servers would seed the network with the old zone list they had.
|> >If you have novell 3.11 servers, you must coordinate them with any other 
|> >routers you have in order to change the network zone list.
|> 
|> 	This symptom is not just particular to Novell routers, but to the
|> 	design of AppleTalk itself.  EVERY NetWare server is also a full 
|> 	router.  Once a router (any router) has been seeded by _any_ means, 
|> 	to too becomes a seed router.  So the morale of the story is that 
|> 	when you're reconfiguring a network range's zones list, you must 
|> 	shut down _every_ router connected to the cable with the network 
|> 	range, not just Novell routers.
|> 
|> 	Chris 
|> ---
|> Chris Ranch
|> Internetworking Products Division
|> Novell, Inc.  San Jose, CA
|> (408)473-8667  cranch@novell.com
|> I may work for Novell, but I don't speak for them...

I don't mean to be picky, but I stated this when I said :
"you must coordinate them with any other routers you have"

Lance Kimes
From: sjmz@otter.hpl.hp.com (Stefek Zaba)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:33:33 GMT
Subject: Re: LocalTalk as link level for CAP?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk

In comp.protocols.appletalk, tom@wcc.oz.au (Tom Evans) illuminates enough
of the hardware basis for LocalTalk, thus:

> If you can program the HP to run 230,400 baud, FM0-encoded SLDC/HLDC
> with aborts, pulses, microsecond-level timing resolution on RS-422
> (tri-stateable driver), then you've got a chance. Translation - if the
> serial hardware in the HP isn't a Zilog SCC, forget it!

for me to be confident that "forgetting it" is exactly the right answer.
The controller for the serial port is a National 16550.  From what I can
glean, this is a reasonably fast "pure serial" chip, but won't have a
prayer of handling LocalTalk sensibly.  It has a 16 byte (yes, that's
right, a massive 128 bits :-) buffer, and the native driver supports
hardware flow control (RTS/CTS), so it sounds as if I'd be able to run
Kermit/XMODEM/whatever at 230.4kbaud, but not real LocalTalk.  Or, indeed,
running SLIP on both ends at this speed.

> You'd be better off running SLIP on both ends, or wait for a PD ARA
> server. Or check out ARNS (arns.tar.Z) in the "mac" directory on
> munnari.oz.au.

Checked out --- looks obscenely perfect!  Like, all a chap need do is
bring "async" up on the HP box, and the Async AppleTalk adev on the real
computer :-), with CAP running on the HP box too?  (Presumably ARNS and
CAP communicate via the local 127.0.0.1 IP address...)  Sounds great: I'll
let you know how I get on.

Many thanks, Stefek

> Tom Evans  tom@wcc.oz.au
> Webster Computer Corp P/L, 1270 Ferntree Gully Rd Scoresby, Melbourne 3179
> Victoria, Australia 61-3-764-1100  FAX ...764-1179  A.C.N. 004 818 455
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: Will Kessler <kessler@roses.stanford.edu>
Subject: Problems with lwsrv
Organization: VA Medical Ctr PA
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a5
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 19:54:36 GMT

I have been having the same problems as Nigel Ellis, with lwsrv.

Also, the routine SLInit has occasionally given me errors -1 and -1027
rather
than -1025...  in any case, atis seems to be fully configured and working
as far as aufs is concerned.  But I'm wondering about these ProcSets: the
README file on lwsrv tells me to look for something in the FoundProcSet
file
that it didn't have. We're using system 7 macs, with version 7 of
LaserPrep.
Could it be that we don't have the ProcSet files set up right?

Thanks in advance.

Will Kessler
kessler@roses.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: cary@jove.Colorado.EDU (John R. Cary)
Subject: Comments on AppleTalk Internet Router?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 13:52:22 GMT

I am looking for a cheap solution to AppleTalk tunneling
through IP networks.  Recently I have heard of the
AppleTalk Internet Router (3.0?).  Does anyone have experience
with this product?

1.  Does it do KIP (so that I can run it with CAP).

2.  Does it run on a Mac Plus (with a SCSI ethernet adaptor)?  I
    have some of these around, little used.  So I could
    dedicate a MacPlus.  Otherwise:

3.  Will it significantly slow down a Mac IIcx?

Any other comments would be appreciated.
-- 
--------------------------
John R. Cary                                  cary@boulder.colorado.edu
Department of Astrophysical, Planetary and Atmospheric Sciences
University of Colorado, Boulder, CO 80309-0391
ph. (303) 492-1489                                   fax (303) 492-0642
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Subject: CAP permissions for Ultrix
Organization: GTE/MSED - Needham Heights, MA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:12:09 GMT


I am getting the following erorr message when trying to execute lwpr
on an Ultrix 4.2 system with CAP 6.0pl125:

abInit: [ddp:  27.85, 40], [GW:  27.85, 117] starting
open: qe0: Permission denied
NBPInit: DDPOpenSocket error 13
NBP nbpFcn: nbpInit not called

On Suns I usually change the group for /dev/nit to kmem and then set
the sticky bit on the group for each executable I want people to be
able to run (e.g., lwpr, getzones).  I don't know what the equivalent
device name (like /dev/nit) is on Ultrix systems.  This system happens
to be a MicroVAX-II.

If you can tell me how you set your CAP file permissions up I would
really appreciate it.  Please use e-mail.
--
Dave Pascoe
Internet: pascoe@rocky.gte.com
(617) 455-5704
From: mhudson@m65sun.nuwes.sea06.navy.mil (M Hudson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: CAP60 lwsrv
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:23:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

World,

I am running CAP 6.0 on a Sun SPARC 2.  I have the aufs server running as I
want it using native EtherTalk.  Connected to the sun is a QMS-820PS postscript
printer that I am trying to define as an AppleTalk printer (laserwriter).  I
can see the printer from AppleTalk (chooser) and I can even print to it.  The
problem is I get the actual postscript command file as output. :(  Is there
anything obvious (or not so obvious) that I am over-looking.  I've captured the
data using tracefile option (-t).  It looks like postscript to me.  Any ideas
would be appreciated.

Marc Hudson
Network Engineer
N.U.W.C. Det. Keyport
Keyport, WA

mhudson@m65sun.nuwes.sea06.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
From: cranch@novell.com (Christopher Ranch)
Subject: Re: Comments on AppleTalk Internet Router?
Followup-To: comp.protocols.appletalk
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:12:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.135222.28797@colorado.edu> cary@jove.Colorado.EDU (John R. Cary) writes:
>I am looking for a cheap solution to AppleTalk tunneling
>through IP networks.  Recently I have heard of the
>AppleTalk Internet Router (3.0?).  Does anyone have experience
>with this product?

	It's not released, but Alan Oppenheimer was showing it on the
	Interop floor.

>1.  Does it do KIP (so that I can run it with CAP).

	No.  It uses the new AURP suite of protocols (functions), which
	is not compatible with any current AppleTalk in IP methods.

>2.  Does it run on a Mac Plus (with a SCSI ethernet adaptor)?  I
>    have some of these around, little used.  So I could
>    dedicate a MacPlus.  Otherwise:

	Good question.  System 7 is required, and you'ld need 4MB+ memory
	and SCSI Ethernet drivers that don't die.  It might actually
	work, though.

>3.  Will it significantly slow down a Mac IIcx?

	Anytime you use a workstation for routing, you will always notice
	a performance hit.  The real question is where is your functionality/
	performance threshold?  If a lot of folks are going to traverse it
	to print, and the poor user needs the CPU cycles, it's not a good
	idea.  Time to add an interface to your NetWare servers (to provide
	the routing), or get another stand-alone router.

>Any other comments would be appreciated.

	Good luck,

	Chris
---
Chris Ranch
Internetworking Products Division
Novell, Inc.  San Jose, CA
(408)473-8667  cranch@novell.com
I may work for Novell, but I don't speak for them...
From: MARTINHER@URVAX.URICH.EDU (HERB MARTIN)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: Re: SunOS/BSD ftp/ftpd enhancement to allow Macbinary ftps
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:09:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet


I believe InterCon's NFS/Share product (actually the one without the NFS
does this too) does this.  They even include the MacBinary format
documentation in their manual.

martinher@urvax.urich.edu