HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Resolution, Audio Sampling
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:15:34 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario

In article <9887@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
> ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman) writes:
> >announcement on Genie, he said explicitly that the 640x480 mode, at least
> >with 16-bit colour (which is a great feature, mind you), is **INTERLACED**!
> >Sigh. This means some good things, as he mentioned, like the Falcon will
> >work on SC1224 monitors (as well as VGA monitors with higher scan rate).
> 
> BEEP.  The SC1224 simply cannot handle such high resolutions - it doesn't
> HAVE 480 scanlines to use!  The VGA/MultiSync monitors will not experience
> the flicker - just as they don't on the Amiga.

You are seriously confused here, do you know what interlaced video is?
I said 480 lines *interlaced*, which is 240 lines really and quite possible
on an SC1224. That is the whole point of interlacing! You're also
wrong about VGA monitors on the Amiga - it ALWAYS FLICKERS at 400 lines
unless you have a FlickerFixer or an A3000. The standard Amiga itself
produces interlaced video at 400 lines resolution, it's not a monitor issue.

> Me, I'm impressed that they even BOTHERED to support high-res on the SC1224.
> You'd be a bit crazy to buy an SC1224 rather than a MultiSync, considering

I can't believe you said that. What about the entire existing user base
who ALREADY HAVE SC1224's? Sure would be nice if they could use their
existing monitor, eh?

> The Aint No Such Thing As A Free Lunch, and your SC1224
> will never handle 640x480 non-interlaced.

Agreed, but that is not at all what I said, nor what Tramiel said on Genie.
Try reading the article next time. :-}

--

Old programmers never die, they just log off.

ken@isgtec.com   [ ...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ken ]  Ken Newman
From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Software written to your specs
Date: 14 Aug 92 06:40:18 GMT
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18

In article <H.8zrhn73hGgw@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca> jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca
(John Henders) writes:
> 	I'd like to see a trn-like newsreader for the various uucp setups
> we have. Or even better, a port of the bsd uucp package to MiNT. If
> uucico ran under MiNT, I'd be running MiNT all the time, so even a
> MiNT freindly UUCICO would be nice.

Instead of bsd UUCP, I suggest using taylor UUCP from the FSF.  From what
I read on comp.mail.uucp it is very robust and the author would like to see
a port to micros.

BTW, I would like to pay for hermes.  what is the best way to ship money to
germany? (lowest hassle, and/or fees to banks)

--- eric
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From: UweKloss@lionbbs.bs.open.de ( Uwe Kloss )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: Utterly bizarre idea for Atari
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:38:28 GMT
	<1992Aug15.043618.17054@news.csuohio.edu>
Reply-To: UweKloss@lionbbs.bs.open.de
Organization: The Lion Town BBS, Brunswik, Germany
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992

In <l90309INN6q5@aludra.usc.edu>, Juxtaposer writes:

>  This sounds like a good idea, except:
> 1)  The 68ks were not built for multiprocessing (big surprise) - you are not
> only talking about totally (almost) re-writing TOS to handle the multiple
> processors (which sounds like a good idea to me anyway), but you would have
> to implement some impressive glue-logic to get the multiple processors to
> work cooperatively since they

> a) don't know that they don't own the bus,
Which is definitely wrong!
Even for the simple 68000!
What do you think are the pins ~BR(bus request),
~BG (bus grant) and ~BGACK (bus grant acknowlege) for?

> b) don't understand any kind of memory but super/user,
They understand:
   supervisor program
   supervisor data
   user program
   user data
That can enhance the 16 MB limit (see below) to 64 MB,
but what does that do WRONG????

> c) only have 24bits address line
Which means 16 MegaByte and should be enough on a multiprocessor system
where you have, say 8 MB private an 8 MB shared RAM for each processor.
That's 27 * 8(private) + 8(shared) = 224 MB main memory. Not enough?
Boy, your last name is croesus isn't it?

> 2) Related to the last point of 1), you really want to have a distributed
> multiprocessor-system - how many times do you run 27 applications simul-
> taneously?
Why? you can split ONE application into several THREADS!

> Not to mention that each processor would have to have its own
> memory - and it doesn't sound too appealing or marketable to have to buy
> 27MB so you can have 27 1-MB virtual machines.
Make it upgradeble at least one and at most (as much as you want).
1MB is much for that task.
Even 8MB (shared) main memory and 128KB (private) cache may be enough
with a hardware supporting virtual memory.

> [...] a distributed multiprocessor system, you distribute tasks over the multiple
> would still be going at the original (single processor) speed.
There you address the one and only problem: THE SOFTWARE!
You need a distributed environment!
A parallel OS and parallel Applications which means
parallelising (? ;-) developement tools.

   THAT'S THE REAL PROBLEM AT ALL!

At least with ATARI! ;-)

Uwe
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: 7103_2622@uwovax.uwo.ca (Eric Smith)
Subject: Re: Bug in TOSWIN?
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:39:23 GMT

In article <H.&PuIzwvJfmU@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> I tried all combinations and without other stuff in the auto folder etc.
> Without success. Then I tried a minimal MiNT configuration on my old ST:
> TOSWIN had no problems!!
> So this is definetly a TT-only bug (or feature :-), and other German TT users
> reported the same behaviour.

In fact, I'm using NVDI 2.03 on my (North American) TT with TOSWIN, and
haven't had any problems. 

I've also tried a variety of different GDOS's with TOSWIN, and they've all
worked fine.

Perhaps there is a bug in the German version of NVDI? (The one I have is all
in English.)
--
Eric R. Smith                     email:
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University of Western Ontario
From: ken@isgtec.com (Ken Newman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Wanted Sam Tramiel, conference transcript of GEnie
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:19:16 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc., Mississauga Ontario

In article <1992Aug13.153118.18966@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
> I didn't like two things about the conference.
> The first thing was when he said if you want better resolution,
> get a TT.  I thought that it was sad when he said that because
> it probably means that the 640x480 will be the highest resolutions
> even on the higher-end Falcons.  I hope this isn't the case.

Yes, this is the only negative really about the rumours about the Falcon.
The recent reports all seem to point to 640x480 as the max at least for
the initial model. I sincerely hope that Atari plans on 800x600 or
1024x768 colour in a later model at well under $2000. Otherwise they
will release a brand new machine in 1992 that has lower res than 
PC SuperVGA has had for some time. In 1992 640x480 just doesn't cut it.
The rest of the machine sounds wonderful though.

--

"Things should be as simple as possible, but no simpler."   - Albert Einstein

ken@isgtec.com   [ ...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ken ]  Ken Newman
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: New upload to archive
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:29:30 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

rahin@scs.leeds.ac.uk (M A Rahin) writes:

>wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Natuerlich!) writes:
>>
>>It's now in atari/new as 'shift3.lzh'.

>What about supplying a document file in English ? There's no English documents
>or help screen in Shift2 & for someone with no knowledge of German it is 
>rather frustrating.

Frustrating?  Of course, that's the WHOLE IDEA of the game - I love it!!!!
(I'm stuch on level 79 in Shift1, and up to level 14 in Shift2)


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From: Patrick_Dubbrow@ms.maus.de (Patrick Dubbrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Gem Support Dieing?
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:11:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: MS.A46065
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Adam Pelled wrote:

>GEM on the PC was severely crippled due to some law suit with Apple. Like
>windows can't be sized etc..

That was just the PC-GEM _desktop_ 2.X. The program's windows can be sized,
although.

>How Atari got round this one i don't know.

They got the licence from DRI early enough to be not concerned in the legal
conflict.

Regards,
 Patrick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: glens@natinst.com (Glen Sescila)
Subject: Re: Forbes Article
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:17:23 GMT

 Jonathon Eggert writes:

> There wasn't a lot of good news in the article, if any.

	One (or two) good point in the article was that the Falcon 030 _AND_
the Jaguar are both due out within 12 months (of the article).

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From: timg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tim Gallivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Quickie FAX software sought
Keywords: fax,st,supra
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:19:22 GMT
Organization: University of Texas Center for Relativity

In article <1992Aug16.221537.1044@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> cable@crs.cl.msu.edu (Dan Cable) writes:
>slick@netcom.com (Martin Veneroso) writes:
>
>>OK, so now that I have splurged and bought a Supra FAXModem V.32bis from

>>So I place it before the assembled throng:  is there a quick/easy/cheap
>>fax program for the ST by which I can send some simple file to a fax
>>machine, and perhaps even receive a fax from said machine?

>>up with Degas or I can create a PostScript [tm] or .dvi file on another
>>system and get it to my ST.

>The only existing piece of faxmodem software that I am aware of is STraight 
>Fax from Joppa Software (717)428-3231. It is capable of converting ASCII files 
>along with any GDOS files.

I don't know exactly what fax software usually does, but I thought I
should mention that ghostscript comes with source for a couple of fax
drivers (but they aren't compiled into the ST version of GS). I don't
know if the output format would work with your particular modem, but it
should be fairly easy to write new drivers that do, assuming you know
what format you need. These GS fax drivers just convert a PostScript
file into a bitmap that the fax modem can understand, so presumably you
still need something to send the bitmap to the faxmodem. If all that is
required is sending the file to the serial port, well that is no
problem, and GS can even do that. Since GS is free, this might be a
cheap way to test your modem. Someone please tell me if I am
oversimplifying this.

Of course, GS can't help on the receiving end, so it you want to send
AND receive ....

-Tim Gallivan
timg@landau.ph.utexas.edu



Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: r0mill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Robert Delius Royar)
Subject: Re: Gem Support Dieing?
Reply-To: r0mill01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Organization: University of Louisville
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 10:04:23 GMT

In article <2256@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham) writes:
>Alan Kay worked at PARC for many years before coming to Apple to assist 
>with the development of the Mac for Steve Jobs.
>
>-- 
>Jerry Dunham                                        dunham_jerry@tandem.com
>Tandem Computers, Inc.                                dunham@mpd.tandem.com
>Austin, TX                                                    (512)244-8598
>                 This opinion intentionally left blank.

And he also used to work for Atari (before Apple (according to his article 
in last year's Sci. Am.)).

r. royar  (no address where I work)
From: rzsbs@rz.uni-sb.de (sbusol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: uucico and Hermes
Date: 18 Aug 92 07:07:09 GMT
Originator: rzsbs@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de

From article <H.NQyYisayKcI@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca>, by jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders):
> uucico into hermes today and it works fine. Also, it works under 
> MiNT ( or so the docs say, as I haven't tried it yet.)
> 


Be sure, it does !!!	

But: Not in the background (not yet at least...).


Bernhard



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From: jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance)
Subject: Re: Bug in TOSWIN (was: Re: MiNT 0.95 now available)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 18 Aug 92 09:14:58 GMT

>bammi@acae127.cadence.com (Jwahar R. Bammi) writes:
>>	another feature i would like to see is a config. option to
>>set auto-top on mouse entry into a window.

timg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tim Gallivan) writes:
>I cast my vote with Bammi. As far as windows, you don't have to
>actually top the window, just make it active. An option for this
>would be wonderful. I changed my copies of unix windows and MW2
>to add "point-to-type" (as opposed to "click-to-type") options.
>It really makes them much more usable.

  Well you could try dctopper.  This tiny program from the Double
Click guys automagically tops any window that is under the mouse.
It's available at atari.archive.umich.edu in the dc directory as
"dctoper2.lzh".  

--
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From: bussche@ksla.nl (Egbert Jan van den Bussche)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: MiNT
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:37:26 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:20 MET_DST-0200

Hello! With the 095 release of MiNT I decided to give it a try, so I downloaded 
all .zoo files in the MiNT directory at cs.ruu.nl. During the unpacking I 
noticed that not everything is placed in the correct directory (infact most of
the files unpack in the current directory.) For me this is really not very nice
since I am not U**X guru and do not know where everything belongs. Isn't there
a installation document somewhere around??? Zoo is very capable to create di-
retories where needed, why is this not fully used?
Please can somebody give me a pointer to a NOVICE MiNT manual/document (Eric??)
otherwise I might find myself behind my ATARI for weeks or so getting things
right.
Thanks for any response. (I will summarize to make a FAQ document)

Egbert Jan van den Bussche (bussche@ksla.nl)
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:12362 comp.sys.atari.st.tech:4429
From: wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Organization: Marsupilami's private UUCP site - Palumbien, Germany.
Subject: Bug in NVDI ??(was: Re: Bug in TOSWIN?)
	<H.&PuIzwvJfmU@marsu.tynet.sub.org>
	<1992Aug12.093923.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>
Reply-To: wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:54:48 MET

In <1992Aug12.093923.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, Eric Smith writes:
> In article <H.&PuIzwvJfmU@marsu.tynet.sub.org>, wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel) writes:
> > I tried all combinations and without other stuff in the auto folder etc.
> > Without success. Then I tried a minimal MiNT configuration on my old ST:
> > TOSWIN had no problems!!
> > So this is definetly a TT-only bug (or feature :-), and other German TT users
> > reported the same behaviour.
> 
> In fact, I'm using NVDI 2.03 on my (North American) TT with TOSWIN, and
> haven't had any problems. 
> I've also tried a variety of different GDOS's with TOSWIN, and they've all
> worked fine.
> Perhaps there is a bug in the German version of NVDI? (The one I have is all
> in English.)

Very strange! I cannot see any logical reason why different language versions
could be responsible for this bug. I am going to ask the guys from BELA at
Atari fair next week about it. 

Still wondering,
Markus.

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From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Bob Brodie address
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:02:01 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

ca806@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roger M. Selby) writes:


>Does someone have an e-mail address for Bob Brodie - on any of
>the commercial services, an internet address or a fnet node
>and username? Thanks
>-- 
>Roger Selby
>Selbyrog@max.cc.uregina.ca   Selbyr@meena.cc.uregina.ca
>ca806@freenet

Bob gets his Internet access thru Compuserve;  70007,3240@Compuserve.com

His board is the lead node of the fnet conference Atari Explorer Online.
Z*Net Golden Gate, Fnet node 706, (his username is Bob Brodie)

Dan Aylward
dud@u.washington.edu
From: hrs@aber.ac.uk (Herbert Martin Sauro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: RAM expansion on the Falcon
Date: 15 Aug 92 12:44:15 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

Mike mentioned that the German TT-RAM card goes upto 32MB, as of 2 months ago
(about that) a new board is out which now goes up to 64MB.

Herb
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From: eggert@lclark.edu (Jonathan Eggert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Forbes Article
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:43:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Aug17.194336.23824
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

>The author tried to make Atari look bad--plain and simple.
>
>He brought up stuff like Sega investing millions of millions of
>dollars to promote the Sega Masters system while Atari spent hardly
>any to promote the 7800.
>
>DID IT REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE?  Sega wasted money by attempting
>to fight Nintendo.  The Sega Masters was a failure.
>
>Of course, if Atari did spend that amount, they may have won the
>law-suit against Nintendo.
>
>We also didn't know EXACTLY what were the reasons behind things
>such as Jack checking to make sure tips didn't exceed a certain amount.
>Maybe people were writing down that they tipped $40 and really
>pocketed the rest?  If no one checked, this person could get away
>with it.
>
>I know there are problems at Atari but I think the author had
>something against the company.
>
You may very well be right.  Although, I would say that the author more
likely just wanted to share a little bad news and tech some people a
lesson about what happens to companies with CEO's who supposedly don't
change with the market.  It's more like an "I told you so" article.

Jon Eggert
From: Roger.Mier@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Roger Mier)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Packing data...
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:14:00 -0600

       Hello peoples, I'm relativly new here so bear with me.  Does anyone Know 
where I can get a copy of MiNT?  It seems like a great program.  Is it a
commercial program or Shareware?  If it's Shareware, where can I get it? If 
it's Commercial, how much is it?

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS Mpls,MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.sys.atari.znet
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:25:30 GMT

Hello,

dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward) writes:
>gfarrell@fraser.sfu.ca (Gordon James Farrell) writes:
>>jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your input John, maybe you would like to post this in 
>>>news.groups with the rest of the discussion.
>>>
>>>regards

>>What discussion?  I've been checking news.groups for a couple of weeks, now
>>and haven't seen a single article about comp.sys.atari.znet!

>>Am I the only one missing this discussion?

>What is there to discuss?  There is no question it should be done!

Sorry to disappoint you folks, but reading news.groups for almost
8 months now I didn't see the RfD there. I also checked David Lawrence's
recent status messages - there isn't mentioned any atari group.

So - if you want to create a group in a main hierarchy like comp you have
to get posted your RfD at least in news.groups and news.announce.newgroups.
I said "get posted" because n.a.n is moderated and therefore you have
to send your RfD to the moderator.

For details see the "How to create a New Newsgroup" posting in
news.announce.newusers.

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr

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From: plate@cdsmn.mn.org (Doug Plate)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Thanks for pointing me to tapebios.lzh!
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:12:55 GMT
Organization: Dicomed Inc, Burnsville, MN.

Thanks to all who responded to my request for tapebios.lzh.  It is apparently
on the atari archive new directory under "tapebios.lzh" (what else? :)

Now to see if it will drive an Exabyte 8200!

Regards,
Doug Plate