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From:         nauen@WRAIR-EMH1.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      RE: Guatemala via Costa Rica?
Comments: To: kybett <kybett@max.cc.uregina.ca>
Comments: cc: domains <domains@bitnic.educom.edu>,
              info-nets <info-nets@Think.COM>

> Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:48:15 CST
> From: Gaynor Kybett <KYBETT@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
> I have been told that the best way to find out about e-mail to Guatemala
> is to get in touch with one of two locations in Costa Rica.  They are
> huracan.cr   and   UCRVM2
> So far the results in either case have been returned mail.
>
> (see copies of these returns attached below)
>
> I should be most grateful for some help with this problem.  Is the next
> step to check with the nameserver locations (DEC or NL for huracan) or
> the next BITNET node (Florida Atlantic U.)?  Thank you very much.

Probably not.

The .CR domain has been known for at least a year now, but doesn't seem
to be listed in the BITNET GATES file.  Maybe that's why it can't be
identified by UREGINA1.  Perhaps you should consult with your local
staff on how to get such mail to the Internet, where MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA
should be able to use name servers to send it properly

In the meantime, you may find that your mail goes through if addressed
to either hope@huracan.uucp or to huracan!hope@uunet.uu.net.

In the case of the item to UCRVM2, if the headers are correct your mail
actually got there; MAILER@UCRVM2 is bouncing it back to you.  I don't
know enough to understand why this mail addressed to UCRVM2.BITNET was
passed from BITNET (UREGINA1) to Internet (MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA) and back
again, whereas the other, to a legitimate domain address, was not.
(Again, perhaps your local staff can explain this.)  For help on what
went wrong at UCRVM2, you may need to send a copy of that particular
bounce to the staff at that node, for example to Mauricio Alfaro.
Suggest you separate out the problem with huracan, which is unrelated
to what happened at UCRVM2.  Leaving it in will only confuse others.

> S * IN BITEARN WHERE NODE UCRVM2
--> Database BITEARN, 1 hit.

> PRINT CONTACT
>>> Item number 3554, dated 90/11 -- CONTACT
Member director: Guy DeTeramond
'inforep': Luis Blanco
'techrep': Mauricio Alfaro
Administrator: Luis Blanco
               Mauricio Alfaro
Network operations: Mauricio Alfaro
Technical queries: Mauricio Alfaro
Queries about users: Luis Blanco

Contact information for Mauricio Alfaro:
- E-mail address: ALFARO@UCRVM2
- Telephone number: +1 506 248829

Ric <nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil>  <nauen%wrmain.decnet@detrick-emh1.army.mil>
           ^^^^^Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
        U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

For huracan.cr I get:

Received: by UREGINA1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) id 5152;
          Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:36:29 CST
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:36:29 CST
From: Network Mailer <MAILER@UREGINA1>
Subject: Undelivered mail
To: <KYBETT@UREGINA1>

Your mail was not delivered to some or all of its
intended recipients for the following reason(s):

Unknown host: HURACAN. ...
No recipients for this node.

--------------------RETURNED MAIL FILE--------------------
Received: by UREGINA1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) id 5151;
          Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:36:29 CST
Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 92 09:36:02 CST
From:         Gaynor Kybett <KYBETT@UREGINA1>
Subject:      Nodes in Guatemala?
To:           Theodore Hope <HOPE@HURACAN.CR>



For UCRVM2 I get the following:

Received: from UREGINA1 by MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA (Mailer R2.08 R208004) with BSMTP
 id 5974; Tue, 21 Jul 92 14:03:24 CST
Received: from ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca by MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA (IBM VM SMTP V2R1)
   with TCP; Tue, 21 Jul 92 14:03:22 CST
Received: from UCRVM2.BITNET by ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca with BSMTP id <10019>; Tue,
 21 Jul 1992 16:00:15 -0400
Received: from UCRVM2.BITNET by UCRVM2.BITNET (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id
 0819; Tue, 21 Jul 92 11:53:50 UCR
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:53:50 -0400
From: Network Mailer <MAILER@UCRVM2.BITNET>
To: KYBETT@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA
Subject: mail delivery error
Message-Id: <92Jul21.160015edt.10019@ugw.utcs.utoronto.ca>

Batch SMTP transaction log follows:

220 UCRVM2.BITNET Columbia MAILER R2.08 BSMTP service ready.
050 HELO CUNYVM.BITNET
250 UCRVM2.BITNET Hello CUNYVM.BITNET
050 TICK 2367
250 2367 ... that's the ticket.
050 MAIL FROM:<KYBETT@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
250 <KYBETT@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>... sender OK.
050 RCPT TO:<POSTMAST@UCRVM2.bitnet>
250 <POSTMAST@UCRVM2.bitnet>... recipient OK.
050 DATA
354 Start mail input.  End with <crlf>.<crlf>
554-Mail not delivered to some or all recipients:
554 Auto-forwarding error.
050 QUIT
221 UCRVM2.BITNET Columbia MAILER BSMTP service done.

Original message follows:

Received: from CUNYVM.BITNET by UCRVM2.BITNET (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id
 0818; Tue, 21 Jul 92 11:53:49 UCR
Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.08) with BSMTP id 2367; Tue,
 21 Jul 92 13:51:36 EDT
Received: from MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with TCP;
   Tue, 21 Jul 92 13:50:42 EDT
Received: from MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA by MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA (IBM VM SMTP V2R1)
   with BSMTP id 0777; Tue, 21 Jul 92 11:53:01 CST
Received: by UREGINA1 (Mailer R2.08 R208004) id 5598;
          Tue, 21 Jul 92 11:53:00 CST
Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 92 11:52:38 CST
From:         Gaynor Kybett <KYBETT@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      Nodes in Guatemala?
To:           POSTMAST@UCRVM2.BITNET
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Subject: (no subject given)