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From: zelek@remus.rutgers.edu (Grey Wolf)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Grad info for MFA admission in a Creative Writing program.
Date: 23 Aug 92 07:16:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University


   Can anyone provide me with some [at least] rough information on what
criteria are looked for, and what basic minimums are accepted for 
people looking to pursue an advanced degree in Creative Writing?
  I attended an informational meeting on English graduate school 
requirements, but they were unable to tell me what an MFA candidate
would need over the standard MA in English.  None of the C.W. 
instructors I talked to since then were overly  helpful, I might add.

  Thanks in advance.

Chris [zelek@aramis.rutgers.edu]
From: hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
Subject: Re: GRE & GPA, which is more important?
Date: 17 Aug 1992 18:01:51 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <ELM.92Aug15022000@terrorism.berkeley.edu> elm@cs.berkeley.edu  
(ethan miller) writes:
> Both are important.  GREs are used as a rough filter by many of the
> good schools (MIT excepted).  

Is MIT's non-interest in GREs across-the-board, or is that just for the CS?  I  
was planning on sending off to them for application materials, but I haven't  
done so yet..
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Paul Hagstrom (hagstrop@carleton.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.college.gradinfo
From: alien@schooley.ecn.purdue.edu (Yin Chan)
Subject: Re: GRE & GPA, which is more important?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:48:53 GMT

In article <ELM.92Aug15022000@terrorism.berkeley.edu> elm@cs.berkeley.edu writes:
>Both are important.  GREs are used as a rough filter by many of the
>good schools (MIT excepted).  You need good scores on the
>quantitative, verbal, and subject (usually CS) sections.  The verbal
 ************  ******
>score can be slightly lower, but most schools expect American
>applicants to do well on it.  Those students for whom English is a
>second language can do worse.  GPA had better be great if it's from a
>not-so-good school (one which the profs haven't heard of), but can be
>worse if it's from a name school (with a good CS department) such as
>Berkeley.  If your GPA is good from a small department, your GREs will
>be used to "calibrate" your grade and make sure you actually learned
>something while getting those A's.

	I thought the analytical section was the most important part of 
the GRE.  So am I wrong?

Yin
From: paradise@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (Christie)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Freshman Dorm... a review
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:13:32 GMT
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster) writes:
> CBS ran the first episode of 'Freshman Dorm' last night...
> It was a total joke.
> 
> The dorms looked like the high dollar apartments we have in Norman, where
> $650/month gets you a huge 3 bedroom w/ all the heavy appliances, and $350
> can get you a 1100 square foot 2 bedroom with the same toys. I wish
> the dorms here were that nice, if they were I might still be in them.

  You know, that's just exactly what I thought..of course, that's just from
my limited experience of living in a shoebox for my freshman year...I would
have loved a dorm room like that!

> Coed BATHROOMS????  You can't be serious...  I know I'm in the middle of
> the Bible Belt and the show is based in California (at fictional Western
> Pacific University), but I can't see a housing programs type person anywhere
> in the U.S.A. having that.

  I'd have to disagree with that one...I have been to a couple of colleges
that have co ed bathrooms...and I have a friend that just transfered to OU from one...although usually they have more than one bathroom on a floor, and the 
people living there can vote to make them seperate...but the co-ed ones are
around.

> I guess CBS wanted a diversion from 90210.  This show is gonna get riped
> to shreds to the critics (if they don't, I will lose all faith in quality
> television).

  Well, I am glad they have a new show geared toward college kids...but I hope
it will become a bit more realistic as it goes on...

>  CP
 
> mfoster
> mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu
> mfoster@metgem.gcn.uoknor.edu


--
Christie Paradise
paradise@wuntvor.norman.ok.us
(405) 325-9607  The Eternal Apprentice
From: zelek@remus.rutgers.edu (Grey Wolf)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: REQUEST from GIRLS: List of 20 WORST/UNORIGINAL ways to ask a girl
Date: 23 Aug 92 07:09:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University


   I wouldn't worry too much about her mail, Baldwin.  It sounds like she
is one of those types that will pick nits with the semantics of the words
you used until she's blue in the face.  Carry on.

Chris [zelek@aramis.rutgers.edu]
Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.sys.mac.programmer,misc.education
From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:11:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.003501.24229@eng.umd.edu>, russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto) writes:
> In article <1992Aug20.181921.24052@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
> 
> >    I must say I am surprised at the number of computer
> >types who read this group.  I shouldn't be.   After all,
> >one has to get on a computer and figure news out before
> >posting.
> 
> Uhh, take a look at one of the cross-posts...
> comp.sys.mac.programmer has a LOT of computer types :-).
> 

   Yeah, just when I posted it, I noticed the other groups
this went to.  Ooops.  And I didn't know (if it's possible)
how to retract a post.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu

Xref: sparky soc.college:3647 comp.sys.mac.programmer:14245 misc.education:3163
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.sys.mac.programmer,misc.education
Subject: Re: Computer Science Programs
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:50:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Aug20.015008.7556
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Aug19.020350.26435@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:

>worthwhile.   So, if one is trule interested in programming,
>but more practically, it might be better to major in something
>else, and take computer science courses that interest you.
>Unless of course, you can deal with the math.  In that
>case, majoring in it may be no problem at all.

As a practical matter, I'd bet a CS or EE degree is going to open more doors
than other technical degrees, and other technical degrees more than
technical training.

>   On a related note, (mainly to Darrin's post), I wonder whether
>it should be the objective of schools to train for jobs.  This
>has certainly been the attitutde during all the eighties and
>up to current times.   It used to be (in the early seventies
>and late sixties), that some people felt that higher education
>was meant to broaden the mind.   Of course, the typical retort
>is that broadened minds don't put dinner on the table.

Take a few courses on the "mind broadening" (i.e outside of
engineering and the sciences) side of UMCP.  I'd bet you find that you
can handle those courses without too much difficulty, but that most of
those majoring in those areas couldn't pass calc II to save their
lives.

What is billed as "mind broadening"-- i.e so-called "liberal arts" --
isn't, at least not at UMCP.
-- 
Matthew T. Russotto	russotto@eng.umd.edu	russotto@wam.umd.edu
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From: mw4l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Paul Wakefield)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Freenet at CWRU ?
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:06:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.QeYaBqG00VBA0PykVL
Organization: Freshman, Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

can anybody out there give me some info on freenet at case western?
such as what is the address and how are userid's defined

also does anybody know what the address of the advisor or administration is?

thanks


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From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Bananas
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:28:59 GMT
Reply-To: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware

Somehow I've missed the original post on bananas (and positioning them correctly).
Is there a kind soul out there who can forward me the original post, I can't seem
to locate it on our news server.

-Randy

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From: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: finding romantic part
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:51:00 EST
Reply-To: "dale smoak" <dale.smoak@channel1.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

In article <1992Aug12.004013.15958@ultb.isc.rit.edu> Pete - Toonatic -
Boolay writes:

>My brother has a saying that is perfect here...

>"When you're actively searching for romance, it'll elude you. Its when you're
>not searching that it'll come up and kick you in the ass, turn you around,
>and give you the best hug of your life."

I think your brother is right.  I've had a million things to deal with
the past few months, the details of which I won't bore you with, and am
doing less `looking' than at any time in my adult life.  But
occasionally I get shaken out of my self-absorbed reverie by what
appears to be a woman's interested appraisal, and I wonder, where was
that when I had time to do something about it?

Or perhaps it had been a matter of looking but being too blind to see.

Dale
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tolman%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Tolman)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Date: 15 Aug 92 15:47:43 MDT
Organization: University of Utah, CompSci Dept

Following this is the best advice I have ever seen in my life.  Therefore,
if you missed it the first time, go ahead and read it through! The only
problem I have is that being active on the net doesn't seem to meet me
many girls, at all....


>   ...Perhaps, something is being overlooked here. You don't usually find 
> romantic partners by looking for romantic partners. You find romantic partners
> by looking for friends, of both sexes, all sizes, any race, any age, any 
> sexual orientation, any occupation, single, married, people that have kids,
> people that have dogs, anyone who's fun to be with and shares similar interests
> (or disimilar interests, try something new!).
> Collect friends, trade 'em with your other friends! 
>
>    You find romantic partners by cultivating a full, active and varied social
> life, by being the "third wheel" with a friendly couple, by going to parties
> where you only know one other person, by going to eat with a same sex friend,
> by persuing a hobby, joining a club, taking a class, getting involved in a
> community cause, going for a walk. Not by doing one of these things, by doing 
> all of them!
>
>  And when you stop to catch your breath, there will be someone standing there
> right next to you that you didn't even notice before. Because you weren't 
> looking.   
>
>   Ok, wait, you say, that's easier said than done. Well, you're right, so 
> here's what you do.  Make a list of all your friends, male, female, couples, 
> everyone. Call them all and try to make plans to do something, anything with
> them. Plan a party, plan an outing, plan a trip to the grocery store. Schedule
> all your free time, so that even if you met "The One" tomorrow you wouldn't 
> even have time. Now you've got the ball rolling. Invite one group of
> friends to come along with another group on an outing, mix and match, stir 
> things up a little. Now when you come home, you've got a few messages on your
> answering machine from friends inviting you to do things. When you meet some-
> one that you think you might be interested in, now its completely natural to 
> invite them along on one your adventures that you've already planned. And you 
> can take your time and see if *you* want to persue anything and if not, you're
> having fun anyway and you've made another friend! (remember this is our goal 
> in the first place). If you find you're not interested fix him or her up with 
> one of your other friends. Now, you're an active, fun person, you do things!
> people want to do things with you.  Finding a romantic partner is now the least
> of your problems. 
>
> Bob   


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Hymie!)
Subject: Re: Ugly hands
Organization: Creative Sensualities dept, Jacquie's House of Underwear
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:48:01 GMT

lemay@lorelei.Eng.Sun.COM (Laura "Treekiller" Lemay - IWTFM) writes:
>A friend-of-a-friend read the palms of a bunch of us a couple 
>weeks back at lunch and explained that on the left hand on men and on
>the right hand on women, a single unbroken line across the palm signifies
>potential for great violence.
>
>I was OK; mine was on the left side.  :-)

or you're in for a *very* big surprise (or two...)

--hymie
hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
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From: loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Married Men and Single Women
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:12:43 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server


	I would have to agree with the Married Man and Single Women
syndrome.  I wear a ring on my right hand.  When I first got the ring, I
was heavier than I am now (I was 30 lbs overweight).  Therefore I had to
wear the ring on the left hand.  I got much more attention then when I
moved it to the other finger.  By the way, I thinned out and worked out.

	Either women felt comfortable flirting with someone they thought
was taken.  Or they like overweight men.  I would argue the first.  

	This is a real problem for me.  Why is it then when you are
single, women are not interested.  But once you are "taken", they seem
to come out of the woodwork.  No wonder so many men cheat when they are
married.  If they only had those choices when they were single, they
would have perhaps gotton many of those options over with.  Instead, one
is always wondering, what if I dated such and such.

	Such is life....Kirk
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: morton@rtpnet06.rtp.dg.com (John R. Morton)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 08:41:38 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

>>> While some do I think it
>>> is still less likely that a woman will want a long term
>>> relationship with a guy who makes less money than she does than it is for a
>>> guy to want a long term relationship with a woman who's earning power is
>>> less than his.

	True. Womens' relational perspectives are more materialistic.
	However, it's a big world, nd successfull people are the minority.
From: ng@MOE.OPTICS.ROCHESTER.EDU (Baldwin Ng)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: REQUEST from GIRLS:  List of 20 WORST/UNORIGINAL ways to ask a girl
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:56:18 GMT

IN REPONSE TO [shore@tc.cornell.edu]'s REPLY
It says:
>I think there are very few girls here, as the average
>age of an entering freshman is about 18.  I might also
>question the legality of men 18 years of age or older
>hitting on girls - I believe that this is considered to
>be contributing to the delinquency of a minor
>--
>       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu

Well, JUST TO CLARIFY : I GOT NO BAD INTENTION WHEN I ASK A GIRL OUT
                        SO, I AM NOT TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO HAVE SEX
                        WITH FRESHMAN GIRLS, OKAY??

Baldwin Ng (ng@moe.optics.rochester.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com (Kevin Brown)
Subject: Re: Finding Romantic Partners (long)
Organization: I can't see any in the immediate vicinity...
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:12:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.004013.15958@ultb.isc.rit.edu> pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay) writes:
>My brother has a saying that is perfect here...
>
>"When you're actively searching for romance, it'll elude you. Its when you're
>not searching that it'll come up and kick you in the ass, turn you around,
>and give you the best hug of your life."

Well, I've stopped looking (have done so for 6 months), and nothing's happened.
Nothing happened the last time I stopped looking, too, which lasted for about
a year and a half.

I think that whether or not the "solve the problem by ignoring it" approach
will work depends on who you are.  If you're the sort of person I am, then
you're forced to make everything good happen to you (i.e., good things don't
just magically happen to you, you have to *force* them to happen).

If, on the other hand, you happen to be the lucky type, then I agree that
standing back and letting it happen to you may be the best way to go about
it.  Different solutions for different people...

>Peter J. Boulay --17 Split Rock Road-Pittsford, NY 14534-The ToonAddict!


-- 
				Kevin Brown

			    kevin@nuchat.sccsi.com
			    kevin@taronga.taronga.com
From: garrison@kodak.com (Laurie Garrison)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: "Congratulations" and/or "Best Wishes"
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:52:01 GMT
Reply-To: garrison@kodak.com (Laurie Garrison)
Organization: Image Processing Algorithms Laboratory, Eastman Kodak Co.

In article <1992Aug17.191814.23441@odin.corp.sgi.com>, lana@magenta.corp.sgi.com (Lana Mountford) writes:
|> |> ] } diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:}> 
|> |> ] }> No no NO!!
|> |> ] }> The Proper wording for BOTH men AND women is, of course,
|> |> ] }> "CONDOLENCES"...
|> |> ] }> (Okay - after almost 9 years of separation, my divorce
|> |> ] }> is final in 5 days - so I HAD to say this...)
|> |> ] 
|> |> ] So.  Is the correct phrase on *this* occasion "Congratulations"?
|> |> 
|> |> Yeyeas!!
|> |> 
|> |> Diana
|> 
|> Hi,  Diana!
|> 
|> DEFINITELY congratulations, then!  I kinda know how you feel.  My divorce
|> was final almost 2 yrs after I separated, and I celebrated BIG TIME on that
|> day in 1988 (March 27, to be precise).  I still celebrate it, too, as
|> another "Independence" day. :-)
|> 
|> -- 

hehehe- laurie's independence day = july 31, 1991, 10:45AM.
a day to remember!  it's been one year + some, and it was
the best decision i ever made.  

 
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So you put a hold on happiness,  ...a day, a week, a year
you better bring somethin to this party boy, if you party here.
				- Don Henley
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller)
Subject: Re: Exactly what I mean by "unattached"...
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 07:50:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <9208130125.AA29602@regal.cisco.com> mlb@CISCO.COM (Marcia Bednarcyk) writes:
>Walter goes on to say:
>|> If you are only interested in discovering the object of your affections,
>|> then why make the affections ambiguous?
>
>I guess most people are, they just want to *be* in a relationship rather than
>*form* one. Me, I find the process of getting there half the fun.
>
I think it's sorta like dancing on the rocks across the stream.  If
someone is afraid they won't make it, they may concentrate only on
getting to the other side.  If someone is confident that they can do
it, they can afford to take the time to enjoy getting there.

That's why I keep suggesting that people concentrate on becoming datable,
rather than worrying about ratios or getting someone into bed.  I think
it's much better to be able to consistently catch fish than to just throw
rocks at them, hoping you'll get lucky and knock one out so you can take
it home.

I think your comments apply to friendships, too.  So many people seem in
such a hurry!  I like to talk with people, but sometimes the things I
hear just blow me away.  I can think of one person who was telling me all
about her various piercings and sexual practices the day I'd met her.....
If she wants to talk about those things, I think that's her prerogative,
but I honestly didn't feel I knew her well enough to be comfortable 
hearing about it.

So, instead of trying to "catch" a MOTAS, or meet a new friend, I like
to try to grow relationships.  I meet someone, and if we like each other,
we grow our relationship into a friendship, or whatever we think is
appropriate.  Like a handshake, where each party puts their hand out, 
in a mutual gesture.  Sometimes that process happens quickly.  Sometimes
it takes years.  

One of the most magical moments for me in the last few years was
when I was trying to plan my wedding, and was thinking about who
I wanted to ask to be my maid of honor.  As I was mulling over the
various people I was thinking of, it struck me that one of them had
been a true "best friend" to me for some time, even though I hadn't
really thought about it, or labeled her as such.  What a marvellous
feeling!  It was like someone had just given me a wonderful gift.  At
that moment I realized that she was the perfect person for that role.
Planning our wedding with her help was just as much fun as I'd always
hoped it would be.

I'm glad that I wasn't focused on trying to make her into my best
friend.  It doesn't worry me whether or not I'm hers.  That isn't
what's important.  What's important is how our relationship works 
on a week by week basis, and that it works very well.  These things,
like orchids, redwood trees, and kittens, are best when enjoyed for
what they are today without worrying what they will be tomorrow.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Bananas (was Re: Finding Romantic Partners
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:06:28 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <ewillims.714224630@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
|	Try baking a whole banana in the oven with a knob of butter,
|some lemon juice and a LOT of brandy. Have it served with whipped
|cream and experience ecstacy!:>

Actually one might experience ecstacy just watching Emma eat a whipped 
creamed covered whole banana.

-- 
+============================================================================++
| John Fereira            "Is that all you ever think about?"                |
| johnf@auspex.com                                                           |
+============================================================================++
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: matt@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Matt Crawford)
Subject: Re: "Congratulations" and/or "Best Wishes"
Organization: Si me quieres escribir, ya sabes mi paradero
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:58:07 GMT

"Most divorces are just a four-year-long date with a little bookkeeping."

			- psychology prof. Ralph Noble, RPI.
Newsgroups: soc.singles