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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: robert vaughn blackballed?
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:25:58 GMT
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reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

>In article <BD.92Sep28130111@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>>
>>rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:
>>
>>>Are you sure you aren't thinking of Cliff Robertson, who found himself
>>>unemployed (except by AT&T) for a few years for blowing the whistle on some
>>>studio exec who was forging checks to actors (CR included) and cashing them
>>>himself?
>>
>>It's true that CR didn't work for a few years, and it might
>>be true that he blew the whistle on the director (I vaguely
>>recall the incident, but no names), but what makes you assert
>>that item one was a result of item 2?
>
>Cliff Robertson had a reasonably busy career going before he blew the
>whistle on the studio exec.  He was told by people he knew to just let
>it blow over, not prosecute or testify, or it would harm his career.
>He went into the trial knowing that it might hurt his career.  He himself
>has later said that his long drought of parts after the incident was
>caused by testifying.  So have many others.  In the world of human affairs,
>one can rarely say with utter certainty that one action caused another,
>but, in this case, it seems highly implausible that Robertson's career
>damage didn't relate to his prosecuting one of the old boys.  (An old
>boy who's still working in Hollywood to this day, by the way.)

Peter, I'm really not *trying* to be argumentative, here, but
this still smacks of rationalization rather than proof.

I willing to accept that Cliff Robertson feels that way, but
given the number of excuses people have for their time not working
in Hollywood, I'm not yet ready to accept it as the reason.  The
majority of Hollywood careers have ups and downs, and almost
evferyone has some "reason" why they're not in demand at
any given time, but most of the reasons are b.s.

What would the motivation for the blacklisting be?  Unless the 
majority of studio execs were doing this sort of thing (which I 
am willing to believe if given some evidence) I have a hard time 
believing that honest men and women would blacklist a guy just 
because he caused trouble for someone who was ripping off the
studios (the same studios which employ them).  It just doesn't 
make sense to me.

If anything, you would think the studios would approve of that,
since Robertson saved them money.
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From: hmo@wam.umd.edu (House music all night long)
Subject: Re: Airplane! script
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:33:57 GMT

In article <Sep.27.14.07.04.1992.12674@math.rutgers.edu> jdare@math.rutgers.edu (James Ananda Dare) writes:
>I'd like a copy as well.
>
surely I'd also like a copy.


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From: KJOHNSSON@finabo.abo.fi (Kim-Erik Johnsson INF)
Subject: The Woman in Dust Devil...
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:24:57 GMT
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I saw Richard Stanley's Dust Devil last weekend, and ever since I've been
wondering where I've seen the woman before...I don't remember her name, so 
could someone out there who's seen Dust Devil tell me in what other movies 
she's been?

Thanks.

--

  nhn          Kim Johnsson, CS @ ]bo Akademi                 That
s(. .)s             Luostarinkatu 6 B 11                   thing down 
 K o J                  20700 Turku                       there is the
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"No, I gave him LIFE!"
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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Movies you heard were good but sucked
Date: 5 Oct 1992 19:13:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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T.J. Scott writes:

(regarding movies you heard were good but sucked)
>I felt that way about Unforgiven.  I have seen most of the Clint
>Eastwood movies, and liked them, especially ones like the Dirty Harry
>movies.  This movie, Unforgiven, got good reviews, so I paid the $5+
>bucks to see it when it first came to the theatre.  My wife is also a
>fan of Eastwood, so we went expecting a neat movie.  At the end of the 
>movie, we could not find one thing good in the whole movie.

{specific stuff about the ending of the movie deleted}


Please put *SPOILERS* in your heading or mark them in the
post in the future. I still haven't seen this movie yet.

Thanks!


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
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 We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
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From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago)
Subject: Re: About Timothy Dalton?
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 10:35:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.001618.10816@newstand.syr.edu> ncchang@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Chang) writes:
> I would like to have some more information about Timothy Dalton.
> Does he play any other BBC series except Jane Eyre?

Dalton plays Rochester in Jane Eyre? How interesting, consid-
ering he also played Heathcliff in the 1971 film version of
Wuthering Heights. Next, he should play Bramwell Bronte. 
(Charlotte and Emily's brother, I think that's his name.)

I don't know much about him, sorry.
 
Vickie
From: gelly@persoft.com (Brewing Chemist Mitch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: David Lynch movies
Keywords: peche kriek framboise
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:08:20 GMT
Organization: Persoft, Inc.

Aside from the obvious _Twin Peaks_ film, _Blue Velvet_ , _Eraserhead_, and
_Wild at Heart_, what other movies has David Lynch directed ??

Also, it turns out that *I* was the sixth replicant, not Deckard. |-)

Cheers,

  Mitch


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From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: The Long Goodbye - Elliot Gould as a gumshoe
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 06:51:06 GMT


I just saw the rather strange Robert Altman film, The Long Goodbye. It was
based on a Raymond Chandler novel and feature Elliot Gould. The thing
that I liked the most was Henry Gibson as a weird shrink who was chasing
after Sterling Hayden to pay his shrink bills. There is a weird scene
where Hayden is having a party and Gibson suddenly shows up and Hayden
says "Oh no, it's Minnie Mouse" Well it doesn't come across too well here
but maybe you should rent it.
What did you think of this film? It was like other Altman movies I've seen
in that he doesn't make everything polished but concentrates on the
characters, mostly. You know, it may not be available on tape.
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
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From: nichols@math.umn.edu (Preston Nichols)
Subject: Potemkin quotation:  SUMMARY
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:10:46 GMT

Last month I posted a request for movies which quote the Odessa steps sequence  
from "The Battleship Potemkin".  I got a few more than I knew about, but not  
many.  Thanks to all who responded.  Here is the most complete list I can  
honestly put forward.


Bananas ( Woody Allen)
Brazil (Terry Gilliam)
Love and Death (Woody Allen)
The Monitors (Jack Shea)
The Untouchables (Brain de Palma)


Of these five, "Love and Death" is the only one on the list not by virtue of  
showing a baby carriage on some steps in the midst of a melee.  I don't think  
it has any significant scenes on steps at all. It does however parody  
Eisenstein's famous lions (Allen's stone lion collapses in exhaustion in three  
quick shots) and one of the battle scenes has a brief CU of a man with glasses  
who has been shot in the eye.  (In "Potemkin", it is an old woman to whom this  
happens, though there is also a young man in several shots of Eisenstein's  
sequence who has similar glasses, causing me to get confused.  Gary Bradley in  
Edinburgh set me straight, for which thanks.)  It is also relevant to note that  
the main comedic idea of "Love and Death" is to parody the classics of Russian  
film (and literature).  The others (except "Bananas"?) can I think be safely  
described as "homages".
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:55:51 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Sep28.222554.15964@idacom.hp.com>, kenl@idacom.hp.com 
(Ken Loo) writes:

> A couple of disgruntled customers voiced my opinion of the film quite
> eloquently as they left the theatre:  "F-----G artsy film!  What a waste
> of $8.00!"

First of all, I'd never pay $8.00 to see a movie...and to balance the record,
_Naked Lunch_ was one of my favorite movies of the year.
 
> Unless you're familar with the William Burrough's novel, I strongly suggest
> you stay away from this film.  

Gotta disagree on this one.  I've never read a scrap of Burrough's, and I was
mesmerized by this film.  I found it fascinating, and very enjoyable.

Peter Weller gives the performance of his career, Julian Sands is creepy as
hell, plus Ian Holm and Judy Davis deliver the kind of stellar performances
I've come to expect from them.

Wild movie, check it out and judge for yourself!

Greg Bole                              "I haven't seen this many sideburns
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  since West Side Story."
                                       Nicholas Cage in _Honeymoon in Vegas_
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: thx - "the audience i
Date: 5 Oct 92 07:57:29 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

TB>Am I the only one who gets chills up and down my spine when
TB>they play "The Audience Is Listening" intro?

     If you haven't seen it yet, take a look at the video "Tiny Toon
     Adventures: How I Spent My Vacation."  They do a NASTY spoof of
     the THX sound-system intro that you'll have to see to believe.

     And the rest of the movie is quite funny, too; it's the most enjoyable
     spoof to come out since last year's "Hot Shots!", with lots of
     in-jokes for TV, film, and animation buffs.

     You can find it in the children's section of your local video store.
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From: gt4476a@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Alberghini)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Name this Movie, win Gold Ingots
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:13:04 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Oct5.184034.11714@tandem.com> Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev) writes:
>It's been eating at me all weekend, and I'm sure many of you know the feeling.
>So, sorry for pestering you BUT: can anyone name the highly-forgettable movie
>about a yuppie couple that gets into cocaine, then one of them decides to start
>selling?  They get addicted, things quickly spiral out of control, she sleeps 
>with a gross guy for a fix, they break up, he falls apart, she steals all his 
>money, he chases her, she dies (I think in a car bomb), it turns out the whole 
>thing was a set-up, predictable ending, the whole 9?

     I believe this is "The Boost".  It starred James Woods and Sean Young.
The only bit of it worth remembering is the fact that Woods and Young had
some kind of feud that made the papers.  Everything boiled down to Young
claiming that Woods was a horny heartless bastard and Woods cliaming Young
was a psychobitch from hell.  And they all lived happily ever after...

     Now my associate Guido has some business to discuss with you about
some gold ingots.
-- 
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From: rbruce@robocomp.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Rob Bruce)
Subject: Re: Help -name this film
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:48:11 GMT

In article <Bv24JE.32w@world.std.com>, mgd@world.std.com (Matthew G Davidson) writes:
|> Arrggh - I'm in that perplexed state again; what's the name of that
|> film so I can rent the video.
|> 
|> Type of film: Suspence/horror type of thing.
|> A haunted house type of thing where a woman is getting visited/molested
|> by a ghost. I only caught the end of this film years ago.  
|> 
|> The thing that caught my interest was some researchers created a replica
|> of the house in which the woman lived and studied the interaction in a
|> "controlled" enviroment.
|> 
|> Any help would be, well, helpful!
|> please respond e-mail
|> mgd@world.std.com
|> 
|> 

I think the movie you are refering to is "The Entity".
-- 


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From: pattisan@midiline.la.ca.us (Patti Hayes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Robert Vaughn--any good?
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 13:32:41 PDT
Distribution: ol
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:

> explanation.
 
 
> Actually, my post about him being blackballed started this and I
> don't have a clue except that I remember reading somewhere that
> the voice of Proteus in "Demon Seed" with Julie Christie helped
> him out when he was low on funds and couldn't find work.  Could
> have been a rumor rag for all I know.  It was quite awhile ago.
> 
>  
May I...I went to LACC with Robert...Yes did do the voice in Demon
Seed but I want to let you know that the major reason you sometimes
find actors doing voice overs and bits (one day roles) is for their
Insurance...sometime they are one job short of qualifying for another 
round of SAG insurance and they pick up a "quickie" and it drives their
agents crazy.  SAG insurance is the best, very little arguing about the
need for a procedure when you have someone that you are trying to make 
better and get them back to work. Vaughn came from money so money was not
HIS problem....inactivity yes but not from lack of money. He lost a couple
of family memebers that have left him quite comfortable. He does few things
well and those are not always what is right for the current market. There is
also a lot of come to do this for for a hoot,too. As well as I have an idea
for a show for you,come have dinner....and you know I have a bit in this film
I'm doing,would you do it? 
   Robert is very into literature and language...loves to discuss Elizabethan 
nomenclature (sp?) He had a docorate in something and I can't remember what
at this moment. But he is far from broke...just old news and there just hasn't
been the right parts for him series wise so he just waits for the miniseries
and such...:>





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From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner CD != Movie Soundtrack
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:58:23 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
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Joseph Geigel (geigel@seas.gwu.edu) wrote:

> The credits at the end of the movie (DC) claim that the soundtrack is
> available on Polydor records (if I remember correctly).  Being that the
> faux soundtrack in on Full Moon/Warner, I only assumed that they had
> finally decided to release the real Vangelis soundtrack.

The stationary end credits for the principals (which formerly appeared over
"The Shining" outake aerial footage) were replaced, but the subsequent
scrolling end credits on black appear not to have been touched, including
the "Soundtrack on Polydor" line.

To renew the copyright, they did need to add a (c) 1992, which does appear
after the scroll "Copyright (c) 1992, The BladeRunner Partnership", or some
such, but the "Polydor" credit is probably just as much a tease today as it
was in 1982 :-(

If no soundtrack CD is planned, I hope some LaserDisc producer has the
bright idea to put the full dialog/efx/music movie tracks on the digital
channels, and music-only on the analog channels.

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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: GREEN LANTERN: The Motion Picture
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:58:55
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
	<1992Sep24.092136.18913@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au> <5222@balrog.ctron.com>
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In-reply-to: fluffy@camelot.bradley.edu's message of 28 Sep 92 17:45:52 GMT

>>>>> On 28 Sep 92 17:45:52 GMT, fluffy@camelot.bradley.edu (Jeffrey Waltersdorf) said:

Scott Streeter writes:

>>basing it on the current self-aware, grey-templed Hal Jordan and the
>>SFX are courtesy of Industrial Light and Magic (of the late Jim
>>Henson, Frank Oz fame).

cad28526> Isn't Industrial Light and Magic more of the George Lucas
cad28526> fame rather than of Jim Henson?  I am fairly certain of this
cad28526> point but I suppose there is an outside chance that I might 
cad28526> not be remembering this right.  Any support for my side out 
cad28526> there?

ss> Industrial Light and Magic was created by Lusac for the sole purpose
ss> of creating the effects in the first Star Wars movie. After that, and
ss> due to the succes in Star Wars, there talents were used in other
ss> films.

fluffy> Correct.  Frank Oz at least worked with ILM at one point, I
fluffy> believe.  He is credited with the part of Yoda in The Empire
fluffy> Strikes Back...

Frank Oz was the puppeteer AND voice of Yoda....
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From: coleman@rocky.cs.ucla.edu (Mike Coleman)
Subject: Re: "Stranger In A Strange Land" To Be Filmed
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 06:29:34 GMT

|sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse) writes:
|>but for some ungodly reason I *always* heard Harry Morgan's voice as Jubal
|>Harshaw from the minute I picked up the book. Why why why? Now I can't seem

Actually, the actor I always picture was the guy who played the sort of old
coot in the movie _The Andromeda Strain_.  He works a lot, but I can't
remember his name.
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Deckard might be a replicant. Time to die.
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:07:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewse.1992Oct6.160751.27506
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct6.020545.2196@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel) writes:
>mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:
>>The fact that they are still experimenting with implants, together
>>with what I know (little enough) about the way the human brain works,
>>is quite sufficient for me to conclude that they can't.
>
>As previously discussed I see this as too much of a leap to make without
>hard evidence. So we agree to disagree. 
>
>>Do it (just not Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep).  While I think
>>looking for Dickian traits in the film is great fun, using Dick as
>>basis to prove things about the film is not valid.

Of course, everyone on this thread realizes that

	DADOES != BR(first release) != BR(director's cut)

right?

If someone took the book, "Hunt for Red October," and made the movie,
had a test screening, went into a room and said, "Well, we've got a
turkey, here -- I think it would play better if it were, um, a
Super-Powered Helicopter instead of a submarine!!", then redid
the sub shots as 'copter shots, that would be the movie.  If someone
argued, "No, that was a submarine, not a helicopter.  It says so
in the book."  Or, "No, that's a helicopter in the original movie.
The later one I saw had a helicopter.  It Looked like a submarine, 
but it was Intended to be a helicopter."

Just a reminder.

GMS
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From: kjetilja@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjetil Jacobsen)
Subject: Re: David Lynch movies
Keywords: peche kriek framboise
Organization: University of Tromsoe
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:35:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.210820.22678@persoft.com>, gelly@persoft.com (Brewing Chemist Mitch) writes:
>Aside from the obvious _Twin Peaks_ film, _Blue Velvet_ , _Eraserhead_, and
>_Wild at Heart_, what other movies has David Lynch directed ??
>
>Also, it turns out that *I* was the sixth replicant, not Deckard. |-)
>
>Cheers,
>
>  Mitch
>
>
>-- 
>
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          to ask is if they ever press charges.  -- Jack Handey
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I saw a short-movie called "The cowboy and the frenchman" (highly
enjoyable) done by him. He's also directed "The Hidden" and "Dune".

-Kjetil.
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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Airplane! script
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:30:36 GMT


I understand there is a copy of the script to "Airplane!" somewhere out on the
net.  Could someone mail a copy to me or give me an ftp site where it could be
found?  Thanks....
-- 
Sam.                                             ss1@kepler.unh.edu
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