From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
Subject: Re: do Overpeck's flamers have problems themselves? (was: Overpeck's problems)
Keywords: You expect me to mark my deletions?  Dream on...
Organization: Who, me???
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:57:45 GMT

In article <1992Oct25.195235.25768@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>In article <1992Oct18.023551.25655@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct4.223517.10833@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>>>In article <1992Oct4.205149.3755@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>>>>In article <1992Oct4.142928.27369@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kcochran@nyx.cs.du.edu (Keith "Justified And Ancient" Cochran) writes:
>>>>>In article <1992Oct3.061432.4873@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
>>>>>>
>
>>>I give up, Kibbles.  You've made me look like a net.newbie because I don't
>>>have the machine names everybody posts from memorized.
>>
>>Do you even have the faintest idea of which folks post from work, and which
>>from school, at least? Do you understand ANYTHING about the way Usenet 
>>functions, day to day? Or are you just another brain-dead user to whom all 
>>this is some magical abracadabra fairy-dust stuff?
>
>Ah yes.  Mister "Junior Systems Administrator" attempts to put down somebody
>he knows nothing about.  

What's this "Junior Systems Administrator" stuff? That's not my title. Is
it _yours_?

>I post from an .edu site, Kibbles.  Tell me, what do I do for a living?

Abuse educational resources? Milk taxpayers for all they're worth? You tell me.

>>>>>>Has lack of veracity _ever_ impeded their agenda?
>>>>>
>>>>>Ah, this must be the lie you're talking about.  While I'm not below flaming,
>>>>
>>>>Don't flatter yourself, Keith -- you're not even *UP* to flaming yet.
>>>
>>>This from the man whose latest attempt at flaming is to call me a homophobe
>>
>>You have yet to disprove that charge, I'll note.
>
>What was that you were babbling about in talk.abortion wrt to "the accuser
>must provide the proof"?  You've accused me of being a homophobe.  Where's
>your proof?

The hateful, indisputably-homophobic drivel you directed at Steve Franklin and 
myself.

Okay, your turn: where's your DEFENSE (other than the lame "I'm gay")?

>>...the doubts will
>>linger, Keith, as long as you refuse to level with everyone on your reasons
>>for posting homophobic-sounding drivel. Yes, an openly-gay homophobe WOULD
>>be rare -- I've never claimed it's commonplace. But it *is* possible. And
>>how do you suppose such a person would present themselves on the Net? Probably
>>a lot like you do, occasionally posting homophobic crap, and hoping everyone
>>just ASSUMES it's sarcasm. Acting surprised when challenged. Trying to laugh 
>>it off. Privately hoping it goes away. You're going through all the classic 
>>patterns, my friend...
>
>I have leveled with everybody who has any ability to understand the English
>language as to why I post that "homophobic-sounding drivel".  

Tissue-thin rationalizations. Basically just glorified "it was just a test!"
NewbieSpeak.

>>>>Either you're extremely ignorant, then, or you're just trying to cover up a 
>>>>whole bunch of lies with this one, because you've posted lots of untrue stuff 
>>>>to the Net; the lie about me threatening to sue Lefty, for instance. I've 
>>>
>>>I've certainly asked lots of questions about you and your fantasy of "billing"
>>>lefty for archival services, but I don't think I've ever posted that you were
>>>going to do so.  I'm not your business manager.
>>
>>By asking "when" I'm going to bill him, as opposed to "if", you imply 
>>certainty, Keith. Stop trying to hide behind semantics.
>
>And all you have to do is answer, "I'm not going to bill Lefty".  That
>would certainly remove all implications of certainty, wouldn't it?

Why should I limit my options, just to humor YOU, Cochran? 

>>>>never done such a thing. Or all that crapola about me supposedly claiming 
>>>
>>>We know you've never billed Lefty for your archival services.  The big
>>>hoopla is over when you are GOING to do so.
>>                ^^^^
>>There it is again. Why do you assume that I'll EVER bill Lefty?
>
>I don't.  I'm attempting to find out if you _are_, and if so, _when_.

I may NEVER do so, Cochran. If I do, then it is uncertain WHEN. There is a
statute of limitations involved, of course, so some of the older charges will 
become uncollectible in 5 years or so. The new charges continue to pile up, 
however...

>All you have to do is say, "I'm not going to bill Lefty", and I'll
>know the answer to my question is "never".

Why does this matter to you? Do you have a _bona fide_ need to know this 
information? If so, please demonstrate it.

								- Kevin
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