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From: ml17@quads.uchicago.edu (ming-long  lam)
Subject: From LaTeX/TeX to FrameMaker
Keywords: latex, tex, framemaker, postscript
Reply-To: ml17@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:48:52 GMT

Are there any ways to translate the LaTeX or TeX source (command and text)
file into a Framemaker file?  I agree that LaTeX is the best mathematical
equation generator I have ver used.   
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M.L. Lam
Department of Statistics
University of Chicago         Internet: lam@galton.uchicago.edu
From: jackson@ess43.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Jackson)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Shading text column
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:55:18 GMT
Reply-To: jackson@ess43.Berkeley.EDU (Jeff Jackson)
Organization: Schlumberger CAD/CAM

In article <garzione.717973936@convex.convex.com>, garzione@convex.com (Michael Garzione) writes:
|> Does anyone know of a way to shade the background in a text column
|> so text comes out  black on a light gray?  I tried to do this in a
|> postscript code column (see comp.lang.postscript), but don't see
|> how with only level 1 postscript.  Anyone have any ideas?
|> 


   Here's what I did:

      1.  Bring up the Tools palette.
      2.  Choose the Object Selection cursor (the lone arrow) and select
          the text column with it.
      3.  Pick a fill pattern from the Tools palette to apply.

   This seems to work fine.  Note that if your window is set up to print
   black text on a light background, you will need to select a dark fill
   pattern to get light shading.


  - JWJ   |   If at first you don't succeed, redefine success.               
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: scheng@bcarh886.bnr.ca (Spencer Cheng)
Subject: Framemaker to man pages?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:22:12 GMT


I was wondering if anyone out there has any experience with documents
that can both be used as a framemaker document and as man pages?

[There is/will be local user resistance to having to use framemaker to
lookup simple things such as the syntax and semantics of, say, how to
send a message. Simple man pages appears to be best for that
application. On the other hand, framemaker is what we use for writing
documents arround here so I really don't want people have to maintain
2 copies (framemaker and [n/t]roff) of the same thing.]

I found the mif2man filters that was written at Evans & Sutherland but
I can't figure out how it works. I have tried converting framemaker's
hypertext help system into mif format and running it through mif2man
but that is definitely not it. 

Can someone who understands mif2man enlighten me as to what/where are
the frame "man" pages that is mentioned in the README file for the
filter? Is it a template that is hidden somewhere in the framemaker
distribution?

Email or followup to this posting would be appreciated. I'll summarize
if there is enough interest.

Thanks
Spencer
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: emike@sdc.com (E. Mike Durbin)
Subject: Reordering Frame Pages
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:03:51 GMT

I have an interesting question ...

I have had several occasions to do bookets using Frame
(Programs, Add Books, etc.).

The big problem is printing them in the correct page order
so that when folded and stapled in the middle, the pages
are correct.  Basiclly, I want to print (for a 12 page doc) pages:

	12, 1, 2, 11, 10, 3, 4, 9, 8, 5, 6, 7

Prelim (NeWSprint) has untilities to reorder page numbers, but they
don't work, and I want two pages per piece of paper:

	+-----+-----+	+-----+-----+
	|     |     |	|     |     |
	| 12  |  1  |	|  2  | 11  |
	|     |     |	|     |     |
	|     |     |	|     |     |
	+-----+-----+	+-----+-----+

So far I've been able to (sort of) automate the reordering of pages by:

	Using thumbnail printout of 1 row, 2 columns

	Use csplit (with a little manual intervention) to

	Break the .ps file into preface, individual pages, and trailer
	files.

	cat'ing the preface, reordered pages, and trailer and sending it
	to the printer.

The problem with this aproach are:

	Pages on the left must stay on the left, and pages on the right
	must stay on the right.  In thumbnail mode, the text is printed
	using absolute page coordinates.

	Will csplit can find each new piece of paper, I have to manually
	identify the split between the two pages put together on a piece
	of paper.

So, the question.  Has anybody else ever done this, and is there a better
way.

(The best way, I suppose, is to rewrite FMPAGE macros to reorient and reorder
the pages, but I don't have the free time to do this).

E. Mike Durbin
emike@obs.com or emike@sdc.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui)
Subject: PROBLEM: Vertical text in table cell
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 14:04:35 GMT

When I rotate the text in one table cell to vertical, the line breaks no
longer wrap around at the appropriate point depending on the vertical
size of the cell. Instead, each line is always shown unbroken, except
for manually inserted breaks using the shift-return key combo.

My preference would be to have the other cells in the table determine
the row's height, and the one paragraph of text rotated to the vertical
automatically wrap at the correct places as a function of the height of
the row it's in.

Michael MY Hui  myhui@bnr.ca  Ottawa Canada
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: jdb@sunbim.be (Jurgen Debedts)
Subject:  LateX filter
Keywords: la2mml, latex, filter
Reply-To: jdb@sunbim.be
Organization: BIM Information Technology N.V. BelgiumA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 09:07:16 GMT

Hello.

Many Thanks to Jonas Mellin who pointed out to me that a made an enormous blooper: in the first posting I spoke of an la2mif filter, that should of course read, la2mml filter. 

I included the corrected article.

Hey there,

I've having a little problem here: one of our customers is thinking about buying Frame, but as it is a university they have always worked with LateX up till now, so the filter la2mml came in handy, but, there is one problem:
It seems to be possible to include PostScript file in a LateX document, and the la2mml filter doesn't seem to like that. It does not know what to do with those includings. 

Question: Is there anyone out there who has had the same problem, and who can set me on the track of a filter which is capable of doing the import completely:
 that is a filter which automaticly turns the PostScript into some sort of import, recognisable by Frame?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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From: chimmel@serpente.eecom.gatech.edu (Christopher Derek Himmel)
Subject: Postscript inclusion
Organization: Computer Engineering Group, Georgia Tech, Atlanta, GA 30332-0250
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:52:06 GMT

I have heard of several allusions to including postscript files into framemaker.  How is this done?
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: ericm@postmaster@ims.com (Eric Martinson)
Subject: MIF Spec
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:11:37 GMT

Is a MIF Specification document available?

If you have one, did you find it useful and accurate?

What I'm after is being able to create import data for frame from
other sources.

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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: John Wilkins <john@publications.ccc.monash.edu.au>
Subject: Re: combining documents into one file
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A701C05796012434@manager.ccc.monash.edu.au>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 14 Oct 92 20:17:27 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melbourne Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:17:24 GMT

In article <9210121836.AA00850@nemo.apsc.com> BRIAN P CRAWFORD,
BCRAWF01@apsc.com writes:
>Is there any method of combining these documents into one file?  The
text cut
>and past, of course, only grabs the text and not the template the
document
>is drafted on.

This works on the Mac:

Save each file as a MIF and Import it at the site. A bug: FM inserts a
paragraph before the inserted text in the format of the paragraph the
cursor was in at the insertion command.

John Wilkins
Manager, Publishing & Advertising
Monash University, Melbourne Australia
Internet: john@publications.ccc.monash.edu.au
Tel: (+613) 573 2099

"Nature is profligate in variety but niggardly in innovation"
Charles Darwin, Origin of Species
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: Shawn.Hayes@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Shawn Hayes)
Subject: Framemaker died, how do I restart it?
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:03:32 GMT


	I've got a copy of Framemaker 3.0 running on the HP 9000/433s
with HP/UX 8.0 that I've been running into some problems that I hope
someone can help me with.  Occasionally when someone is running 
Framemaker it will crash.  Unfortunately once it dies it will not allow
the user to start it back up.  When you try to start up maker it will
display the maker window, but displays none of the options that should
be available.  

	If I try to kill the license server and restart it I get the
following message at startup:

Vendor properties: FrameFinalUpdate
(Thu Oct 8 13:43:14 1992
Searching for other servers with <VendorName Frame> <Serial 1-4-1408>...
/Cannot send broadcast packet: Permission denied
Thu Oct  8 13:43:14 1992
)


If anyone can offer any suggestions I would appreciate the help.

thanks.

Shawn Hayes


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From: Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca (Mike Dustan)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Alphabetical sorting of tables?
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:19:38 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7009982A0022B30@opifex.ucs.sfu.ca>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 13 Oct 92 23:19:30 GMT
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In article <1992Sep25.195957.20842@medtron.medtronic.com> Brian A. Blow,
bb11807@thug writes:
>I must be missing something.  Is there any easy way to alphabetically
sort
>the rows of a table?  I couldn't even find 'sort' in the FrameMaker
docuementation.

No, Brian, you're not missing anything. It's not there. The only sorting
that FrameMaker does is when it's creating an index. :-(

Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC
Canada
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: stumpf@cssun1.psychologie.uni-freiburg.de (Michael Stumpf)
Subject: WANTED: Filters for EXPORTING documents
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Freiburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 17:26:24 GMT

Well, I'm aware of Frame's filter package, but that mostly
deals with IMPORTING documents from other systems.
I'm wondering whether there are export filters to
* WORD (4, 5, WinWord, MacWord, ...)
* WordPerfect (5.0, 5.1, ...)
...
Or, are there filters for e.g. word which can read
Frame MIF?
Can anyone give me a pointer to a rather comprehensive
list of such things?
Thanks, Michael
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From: snd@elan.cs.princeton.edu (Stefanos Damianakis)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: unix: ps --> epsi
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:57:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Princeton University

hi,

since fm doesn't support importing text files by reference, i am trying to
use encapsulated postscript files. it's easy to convert from text to ps
(just use script). But now, i'm stuck again, i can't seem to get EPSI files
from PS file. does anyone know of a unix utility that will generate
encapsulated PS from a PS file? Or is this as simple as adding a bounding
box and eliminating the showpage?

thanks for any help,

-stef
(snd@cs.princeton.edu)
From: pace@rook (Stephen O. Pace)
Subject: Re: Document management systems
Followup-To: comp.text.frame 
Summary: Two third party options, Document Manager and Novamanage 
Organization: Shell Oil
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 13:43:27 GMT

I, too, was looking for some good document management tools.  I asked Frame
about it, and they told me to look for a product from Boss Logic called
"Document Manager."  It seems that Frame just invested a lot of money in the
company, so look for this to be the add-on Frame document management system
of the future.

From the brochure:

> "Document Manager (tm) is a module of the Boss Workflow Management System
> (tm), designed for medium to large installations.  Among its many features, it
> provides high-speed document search, comprehensive revision control, cross-
> linking of documents, automatic tracking, updating, and notification.
> Document Manager handles any type of object (file) on the NeXT computer 
> including:  text, drawings, images, spreadsheets, sound, and databases."

Right now, they're only shipping a NeXT version for $695 with other versions
pending.  Address if you are interested:  Boss Logic, Inc., 505 North 3rd
Street, Fairfield, IA 52556, USA.  515/472-7740.

I don't have a NeXT, so I haven't tried it.  However, if you have to have
document management today, here is another option:

NovaManage, currently shipping for Sun, HP-UX, and Ultrix:  price unknown. 

From the brochure:

> "Nova Manage is the most advanced Document Management System available.  It
> allows you to manage, track, manipulate, distribute and store all your
> documents and drawings.  With optical disk support, large volumes of data
> can be stored and accessed anywhere on your system." [Blah, blah] "Any
> modifications to files are tracked and immediately updated in the database."

Novacad, Inc., 129 Middlesex Turnpike, Burlington, MA 01803, USA. 617/221-0300.

If anyone currently has Novacad, it would be nice if you could post some sort
of review.

Incidentally, I got this information from the Frame Connection Resource Guide
(Spring 1992) available free from Frame.  It lists most third party Frame
products.  Enjoy!
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Shell Oil Company, Houston                           713/493-7929
From: lkirby@axion.bt.co.uk (Lewis Kirby)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: 2 simple questions : tabs and smart spaces
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:18:06 GMT
Reply-To: lkirby@axion.bt.co.uk (Lewis Kirby)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


In article <1992Oct11.172246.379@evb.com>, mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh) writes:
|> 
|> I am using Frame 3.0 on a Sun.
|> Each time I open a new document I have to set the
|> tabs (Format.Paragraph option) and smart spaces (Format.document)
|> Is there a way to set these in .Xdefaults or some other file?
|> 

Can't you simply set tabs and smart spaces in your template files?  Or am I missing 
something?

Lewis G Kirby   Telephone +44 473 645807
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From: nvecchi@sangiorgio.cscs.ch (Nicole Vecchi)
Subject: Hypertext problem
Followup-To: nvecchi
Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico / CH-6928 Manno
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:10:56 GMT

I've got some hypertext documents that all have the same problem: although
I selected fill "none" and pen "none" for the text blocks,  "none" is not 
what I get! I get a dotted line.  I unlocked the hypertext of Frame's help
and they manage to get "none" to work.  What am I missing?

I've got a work around using the white pen but it cuts into the text blocks
a little.  It's acceptable for test runs of these documents but not for final
release.

I'd appreciate e-mail as I'll be in vacation for a few weeks and our file
servers have been on the fritz.


Nicole
From: lkirby@axion.bt.co.uk (Lewis Kirby)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Setting default printer
Date: 7 Oct 92 11:35:06 GMT
Reply-To: lkirby@axion.bt.co.uk (Lewis Kirby)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


In article <1992Oct5.214207.13246@intelhf.hf.intel.com>, emagnus@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Eric Magnusson) writes:
|> 
|> Is there any way to automatically set the default printer name 
|> to be used when printing a document?  I am running FrameMaker 3.0X.
|> Is it as easy as setting an environment variable?
|> 
|> -- 

Since no-one has answered this yet, here goes.

I use FM on a Sun SPARCstation 2 running twm.  I use a resources file which
contains the line

	Maker.printerName:              mlb551b

where the name of my printer is mlb551b. If you do not know about X resources then
I suggest you talk to someone else on your site.

Hope this helps.
Lewis G Kirby   Telephone +44 473 645807
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: rothman@tegra.com
Subject: Ethernet printing protocols
Organization: Tegra, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:54:29 GMT

I am employed by a manufacturer of PostScript imagesetters. Some of our
PostScript imagesetters accept only EtherTalk   input when attached to an
ethernet network. While there are several methods that allow unix systems to
talk to EtherTalk devices, it might be beneficial for our imagesetters to
accept files in some more native tcp/ip protocol (such as FTP, TFTP, LPR/LPD).
If a PostScript imagesetter manufacturer were to add an additional protocol to
an EtherTalk-only machine, what would any of you suggest as the best protocol
(and why)? Thanks for your responses by posting or email.
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From: pla_jfr@pki-nbg.philips.de (joachim friedrichs)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Printing with text symbols and borderrs
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:20:57 GMT

From article <1992Oct13.121729.7630@sei.cmu.edu>, by bjz@sei.cmu.edu (Barbara Zayas):

> Running 3.1X on a Sun3

> Is there anyway to print a file such that its text symbols
> and borders appear?

I hope it helps: use file capture function to create a screen
raster file within one page of your document, import it in
a FrameMaker file and print it.
From: morry@DSG.Tandem.COM (Morry Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: hypertext reposted
Keywords: Links
 Is there away to get hypertext links to print into a postscript
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:19:28 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc, Cupertino CA
Originator: morry@joebob


file?
 I've been told about manually editing the postscript file, but if
you do that how do you get the numbers for the bounding box? Is there
something you can turn on in Frame to give your cursor location?
 
PS I don't know how my first posting got screwed up.
From: morry@DSG.Tandem.COM (Morry Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: hypertext
Keywords: Links
 Is there away to get hypertext links to print into a postscript
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:52:39 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc, Cupertino CA
Originator: morry@joebob


file ?
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: 2 simple questions : tabs and smart spaces
Organization: SETT Inc.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:22:46 GMT


I am using Frame 3.0 on a Sun.
Each time I open a new document I have to set the
tabs (Format.Paragraph option) and smart spaces (Format.document)
Is there a way to set these in .Xdefaults or some other file?

thanks



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mahesh@evb.com
From: klaus@helsinki.esf.de (Klaus Wicovsky)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: troff filter
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:26:45 GMT
Reply-To: klaus@helsinki.esf.de (Klaus Wicovsky)
Organization: ESF Headquarters, Berlin, FRG

Hello,

we have just now installed a filter package from Frame. We are running version2.1 on X.

If I try to open e.g. a manual page, everything works out fine (almost). But now I have come across a troff file with its own macro definitions. 

What I try to do is to cat macros and troff files into one big file and open it with FrameMaker. What I get is lots of pages of macro definitions followed by my troff text, in which only some of the real basic macros have been interpreted.

What do I do wrong? [ please don't rtfm me, we haven't got one and I need an answer urgently ]
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From: gohel@zeus.csee.usf.edu (Himanshu Gohel)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Newsletter format
Keywords: newsletter format
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:25:49 GMT
Reply-To: gohel@eggo.csee.usf.edu
Followup-To: comp.text.frame
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of South Florida, Dept. of Computer Science

Has anyone got any newsletter formats besides the one
provided in the $FMHOME examples?

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U of South Florida, Tampa, FL 33620-3140
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Subject:  Increment page count on odd-pages only
Reply-To: khor@bnr.ca (Kyle Hor)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 19:22:53 GMT

I have a double-paged document and would like the page number to
appear on the right page only AND consecutively.  I.e.  1,2,3,...
instead of 1,3,5,...
 
How can I do it?

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