From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: BETTER? 92 Camaro or 92 Iroc Daytona??
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 04:30:33 GMT

In article 1dn980INNc9a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>
>In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:
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>>In article 1dhuv0INNppk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>>
>>>In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:
>>>
>>>>In article 1dh1omINN7pq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article 1dcj7lINNpop@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In article 7824@zds-oem.zds.com, easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) writes:
>>>>>>>>>In article <1992Nov4.200129.28498@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>CAMARO!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  And he better hurry as they seem to be dwindling on the car lots
>>>>>>>>>around here, in anticipation of the '93's comming in January.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Just say NO to FWD!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Problem is, if your not too fond of the F cars or the 'stang, the 
>>>>>>>>>RWD choices are getting quite limited these days...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Torque Monger
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>>>>  ___  ___    Jeff Easton             easton@zds-oem.zds.com
>>>>>>>>> (__  (__     Zenith Data Systems     j.easton@mi04.zds.com
>>>>>>>>> ___) ___)    Saint Joseph, Mich.     easton@andrews.edu
>>>>>>>>>Monte Carlo   Z-LS/20 - Choice of a quiet generation
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>In that case, get a used PORSCHE 928 that was well maintained.
>>>>>>>>I know it's European, BUT It gives good vibes! :) :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BTW, I could walk into the local PONTIAC dealership out here
>>>>>>>>and buy a new FORMULA cheap! Out here, people keep their old 
>>>>>>>>cars FOREVER because rust is minimal here on Vancouver Island!
>>>>>>>>No demand!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>My old one still has lotsa life left, so I'll pass for a few years.
>>>>>>>>The one in the showroom is loaded but without Auto or Air. It even
>>>>>>>                                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>>>HUH??? a FORMULA w/o an auto?? never laid eyes on one..i was thinkin
>>>>>>>that they were never actaully made...WOW..i'd love to drive this once.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That's right! She's a rare one in the States, but most of the ones 
>>>>>>that were imported to Canada came with a 5-Speed. My '87 also has the
>>>>>>five speed with a stiff hydraulic clutch. The newer ones are easier
>>>>>>on the left leg, but I'm used to mine. The original owner of my car also
>>>>>>equipped it with(among other cool junk) disc brakes all around, 16" 
>>>>>>wheels, 245/50/VR 16 Gatorbacks, 5.0 Litre TPI V8(the manual tranny was
>>>>>>not available with the 5.7), Full analog instruments, top of the line 
>>>>>>Delco stereo, T-tops, cruise, PWR locks and windows(no PWR mirror or
>>>>>>seat), performance suspension, etc,etc,etc(!)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Are you foaming at the mouth yet? :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>has the LEATHER INTERIOR!!
>>>>>>>         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~another(???) definate negative...along w/ lack
>>>>>>                             ^^^^^^^               ^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh, so you don't like shifting? What a colossal shame! :(
>>>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>READ FURTHER!
>>>>>ahem..i mean..read further.  you cut that in the wrong place!..
>>>>>what it sez is "the facts that the car has no airconditioning AND a 
>>>>>leather interior create negative brain vibes!..the stick is the only
>>>>>damn thing i'd buy the car for!!..but i like a/c(i live in Texas,
>>>>>or used to...:)..and do not care to pay for leather that i don't
>>>>>really seem to like..thus..the leather interior is another
>>>>>negative along with lack of a/c..you just edited wrong :)..hmm..you
>>>>>haven't been reading the thread on why americans can't seem to get
>>>>>away from automatics, have you?..didn't think so! try it..could clear
>>>>>up a little of your confuzion on my stand on sticks! :-)
>>>>
>>>>OK, that clarifies it all for me. Leather is a personal taste thing and
>>>>is IMHO cleaner than cloth(less dust buildup inside the car.) BTW, the guy's
>>>>desperately trying to get rid of the machine, so he'd probably give a great
>>>>deal on the car: LEATHER for FREE! You wouldn't have to pay for it.
>>>> 
>>>>Confusion gone WRT your stand on the"TO SHIFT OR NOT TO SHIFT"question.
>>>                ^^^
>>>what the heck does this one mean??most of these i've managed to figure
>>>out..but never seen this one before!  maybe it was just the leather in
>>>the car i drove..but i kept sliding...it was incredibly annoying..
>>>
>>With Respect To
>>>
>>>>I knew as soon as I read one of your later posts yesterday. 
>>>>I love to hate AirCon because the damn thing was always busted on my '74
>>>>Monte Carlo and my '81 Buick. After frying two compressors due to leaks
>>>>and other problems, those things are just not worth the trouble IMHO.
>>>>It costs too much to fix and it doesn't get so hot here in South-Western 
>>>>Canada like it did in Montreal, where I come from. 
>>>>
>>>>>>Shiftless cretins should be made to drive TRABANTS  
>>>>>>with NISSAN auto trannys low on DEXRON for two months. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>aaaakkk..no way!!!!
>>>>
>>>>I was joking. :)
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>That'll fix 'em!!! :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>of a/c..does anyone else not like leather??..my question is, would it
>>>>>>>wear to you in a couple months?..the ones i've sat on were always too
>>>>>>>slick..they didn't hold you..almost as bad as vynal..but if they would
>>>>>>>hold you in a couple weeks, i'd take it! :-)
>>>>>>>DREW
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>ACCKK! AirCon sucks away fuel and power! I just leave the T-tops open
>>>>>>and GO FASTER!!! I don't have leather myself, but it smells good and
>>>>>>is not a problem as the seats are true buckets that your ass gets
>>>>>>planted in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You'll unfortunately have to pay the Canadian price, though. :+(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Torque Monger  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-- 
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>>>>>>>?????????????????????????????????-----whatever!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Torque Monger
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>-- 
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>>>>>?????????????????????????????????-----whatever!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Torque Monger
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>DREW
>>>-- 
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>>>?????????????????????????????????-----whatever!
>>
>>Torque Monger
>>
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>thanx!
>gee..ya think this thread may be getting just a little out of hand??
>;>
>DREW 
>-- 
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>?????????????????????????????????-----whatever!


Want to go for a record? After all, you added to it instead of deleting,
and I'm getting too lazy to delete. Here's my last addition to the thread.
I think it's time to kill this one.

Torque Monger



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