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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:48:32 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: NEAT!
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Posted on 20 Dec 1992 at 01:15:10 by Graham Toal

>Naive in the extreme.  It just means the bills take 6 months to arrive.

Nonsense.  I posted to WORDS-L from one of those beasties in March
last year.  Still no bill.  There is good technical reason to think there
won't be one.  There is simply no billing protocol between AT&T and
my home telco (Bell Canada) to handle such a thing.  AT&T could, of
course, type up an invoice and mail it to me, but they would need
my name and address for that, and Bell's terms of service do not
permit them to give it to another telco except for "the efficient
and cost effective provision of telephone service", which this isn't.
It's also not clear that I owe AT&T anything, since I charged the
data call to my valid Bell calling card.

BTW, I am not in any way attempting to avoid payment.
If and when they get around to billing me I'll happily pay it.
And I'm certainly not hiding the fact that I made the call.  It was
discussed on the Telecom digest some time ago.

Tony H.
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Does 'spot on' mean something like 'right on target'?  Is it too
slangy to use in a formal letter?

brad
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Re: It's About Time!

First Ooooga goes out to chill its water and then I inherit Adam Hart's
mailer and receive mail from November 30th!  What *is* a 'tercet',
anyway?

JMW
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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 13:33:36 +1000
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      WORDS-L TP: ABH'S TURN
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>>Yep.... Science and Nature it is!
>>"What was the first animal named to the U.S.A.'s Animal Hall of Fame, in
 1969?"
>   Would that be the first chimp in space?

Nope, sorry! It was Lassie.

It is now abh's turn to pick a category.

Carolyn
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: End of year Retrospective
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:37:52 GMT

Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU> writes:

> (hi, you cute thing!)

Honey, you have no idea.

--Aaron
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Grammatical question...
Date: 16 Dec 1992 04:56:47 GMT
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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:

>>Was it alive or dead when he handed it off?
>Well and truly dead!
>
You'd be dead if a house, er cat, fell on you too.:-)
>
>All the cats I've ever had, including this one, demanded praise for their
>mice catches by bringing them to the front door still barely alive.... and
>wouldn't kill it and eat it until they had received a pat and a 'well-done

One of mine will do that, only it isn't half dead yet when she tries to bring
it in.:-)  The other one doesn't seem to care about the praise so much as
fresh meat. [newbie mice?  well, come to think of it...mice who want to live
indoors *have* to be newbies here - the previous tenants are by now catfood.
>
>Ours doesn't but then she is strange in many ways. She prefers fresh leftovers
>from the dinner table - won't eat canned dog food at all and prefers Whiskettes
>to dry dog food... no problem though, the cat prefers the dog food. Which

My cats like leftovers too, but they want them before they're technically
leftovers.  One cat would gladly "sit" in a chair at the table if we'd set
him a place.:-)  

>reminds me ..... at a recent Christmas Party my second son invited me to, they
>were serving some type of canapes (I didn't try them, so I couldn't tell what
>they were). My son remarked that they tasted like dry dog food.... I knew he'd
>tried snails when he was little but I didn't know about that. :-)

Snips and snails and puppy-dog tails!  Or in this case, snails and Purina!

>>Did the dog eat it?  If  not, it probably wasn't ripe
>>enough yet.
>I'm not completely certain but I think the nextdoor neighbour's dog.... the
>most stupid Great Dane, I've ever seen.... ate it when he came over on his
>nightly forage for food.
>
It wouldn't surprise me.  Stray cats will chomp fresh kills if they're hungry;
it's none too surprising that a dog would do the same.[especially a dumb dog]

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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:34:27 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Identification etc
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>John "E-merjency, e-merjency!  Everybody to get frum strit!" W.

       E-jermency, e-jermency!

Tony H.
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Subject: Re: 2 toasts
Date: 17 Dec 1992 05:38:37 GMT
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In a previous article, MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu ("Michael E. Macmillan") says:

>>Something about all this modem business really rings a bell, as in
>>"The Bell ram sans parity."  Could this really be Quasi Modem of
>>Noted Fame?
>
>Gosh, I don't know.  All I know is that I'm trying to avoid getting a
>Quasi Modem.  I want the real thing.
>
I have a hunch that this thing will be going back soon.  Use Mac anything
long enough and you want to jump over the edge of some tall building.
[and land with a single bounce....]  

Ruth
taking a bow, deafened by applause [or at least by lots of clappers]

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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:07:41 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: fun word I'd somehow never seen before (fwd)
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           My colleague at the reference desk tells me that "lifemanship"
           has citations going back to 1950.  Jesus Lord !

           Yeovil?

You had to be there :-)

G
From: ST403231@brownvm.brown.edu (Frank)
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Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:29:42 EST
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>Posted on 14 Dec 1992 at 10:24:35 by blomberg cepeda
>
>
[the Bloomster quotes other personages on the relative ease or
difficulty of picking out Americans outside the U.S.]

>And if you are ever in the former eastern bloc, it comes down to shoes.
>Seriously. Everyone knew I was from the West from my actual Nikes, as part, I
>assume, of the whole ensemble (they then add in jeans and shirts, etc. Only
>Americans really have a love of Levis, at least with Adidas/Nikes/Reeboks as
>accounterments).
>     Summer of '91, after being in Moscow for a month, I bought a pair of
>Soviet coop sneakers, cool black vinyl jobbies. Thereafter--at least until the
>snow fell and I started living in my Upper Midwest boots--people figured I was
>Soviet--bad shoes, bad accent, he must be a Lithuanian--and didn't know I was
>not Russian until I opened my mouth.

I have a policy when I go to Russia.  No jeans, no Reebocks (or Nikes,
or other high-quality, obviously western athletic shoes).  And, in
public, I usually wear a sports jacket, like a good Ostblocker.  As
a result, I rarely get hassled by rude young people trying to peddle
military uniforms, pins and rubles to me for hard currency.

A curious thing happened to me late one night on the Moscow Metro as
I was returning to the University.  A young fellow asked me for a
cigarette, so I gave him one of the Marlboros I routinely bring to
Russia for purposes of winning friends and influencing people.  I have
also been known to smoke one or two of them if I have enough vodka in
me.  We were talking, and it was obvious that I was not a Muscovite
(Sir, surely thy speech betrayeth thee.)  He thought I was a Russian
from one of the Baltic states.  I said I wasn't, and he went through
every Eastern Block country in an attempt to guess where I was from.
Having run out of them, he went through all the Western European
countries (well, at least the ones people as fair as I am have a
decent chance of coming from).  He tried South Africa as well, if
I remember correctly.  Finally he said, "you're not from the States,
are you."  I was rather pleased.  I was also wearing shoes made by
Timberland, if I recall correctly.  Either that or my black Frye
loafers.

It turned out that this young man was the son of some reasonably
highly placed party hack, and had grown up in different places in
the West, including the U.S.  He had been educated in Hungary and
spoke fluent Hungarian, and worked for Soviet television (this was
1990, and there still was a Soviet Union).

Go figure.

Frank
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UUCP request att!D.att650d32a to mhwpa!D.att650d32a
failed on system 'mhwpa'.
Reason for failure:
        remote system can't create temp file
        remote file system is low on free space
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: 2 toasts
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Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:42:28 GMT

gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (Graham Toal) writes:
> I haven't met a Risc OS user who can stand MacDos. It just doesn't do
> half the things a good window system should.  And there's so much that
> doesn't multi-task even under system 7 - you keep getting trapped in
> hundreds of little dialogue boxes, all alike.

Every day at work I use Macs, SunOS (command-line UNIX) and OpenWindows.
When I get home I use MSDOS, Windows and SunOS.

No one of them is superior in all ways to all of the others.

--karsten
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:02:33 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Birthdays
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        Reminds me of sign put on music store at lunch: Bach at 1. Offenbach
        even earlier. GWW

Gone Chopin - Bach in 3 minuets...

G
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>Them too!  Fortunately, my cat [the crazy Coon cat] likes to knock them
>down and eat them.:-)  One of us picks him up, and he picks the spiders
>off.<*crunch*>  He prefers squirels, but spiders are easier to catch.
>He eats mosquitos too, sometimes.
>
>--
>                ###     Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###

Our cat's like that too..... his favourite delicacy is 'stink beetles'.
He caught a sparrow two days ago, but it mustn't have been smelly enough for
him, because he gave it to the dog. Fortunately he likes little furry rodents,
so he has some redeeming features.

Carolyn
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Date:         Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:06:58 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <boorstein%umbsky.dnet@NS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Xmas trees, traditions
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>Some time a good while back, Don wrote:
>
>Everytime we take one of our long travelling trips,
>Joyce buys special ornaments from areas we visit.  So our tree is not
>only a Christmas tree, but a travel tree and invokes memories of places
>we have visited.

A truly lovely idea -- will have to remember this.  Are what you buy
sold as Xmas ornaments or just a memento that you like that can be put
on a tree?  I wonder if Xmas ornaments are sold in the middle of the summer?
What have you collected?

>About oranges...don't think they are ready yet...I no longer have citrus
>trees :-(.  Incredible, but Joyce has just about every tree imagainable,
>including the Tallowtree she named our road after, pear trees, etc., but
>no citrus!  Very un-Floridian.   Everybody here has citrus trees!  And

I still have an aversion to cutting down a living tree so that I can have a
decoration in my house and to be tossed in the trash afterwards -- while
living in Southern California used a dwarf lemon tree that grew in a redwood
planter and which was brought inside and decorated for the holiday season.
One year we cut down a tree which we later planted outside, but temperatures
at Xmas here in N.E. make this impossible.  At least my town now composts
Xmas trees.

Joan
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:40:55 EST
From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Family Values
              19 Dec 1992 17:49:08 GMT from <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>

>Some time ago someone asked to see the actual wording of those statutes
>about various forms of sex (eg fellatio, doggie style) being illegal
>in several states.  Finally found some quotations:
>

Brewing beer, oral and anal sex, these are not allowed in Georgia.

On a somewhat related track: from the same newspaper that pronounced
John Paul to be the "First Non-Catholic Pope", this headline:
"Commissioners Consider Jaycee's Recommendations on Sodomy and
Beer on Sundays"

..or something like that.  It was either the Observer or the Banana
Herald.  If I spout these quotes, I *really* should get the facts
straight, don't you think?

* Alt-Brad *
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:53:40 EST
From:         PBARFOOT%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Fiedler

Today would have been Arthur Fiedler's 98th B'day. Whe he was in Syracuse
in the late 70s to conduct the Symphony, the company I was working for
had a reception for him and I was stunned to see how frail he looked
and how slowly he moved. Later that evening, when he stepped out
onto the stage, he was powerful and radiated youthful energy. I have
never forgotten that contrast.
                                              Br Paul
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:42:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: URGENT CORRECTION.

> Dunno about the famous export, but I think that's where they found
> the supposedly extinct coelacanth (coelecanth?).

And a good fish story it was, too.  Bingo, Tony!  The export (still
worth a hundred bucks or so on "Jeopardy" is cloves.)

Steve Karlson

What ever happened to world geography class, anyway?
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:22:52 EST
From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Fischer details (forwarded)

>        Well, inspired by all this, I played my very first game of
>chess ever last night.
>--
>Rita Rouvalis

Congratulations.  Did you play a human?  Did you win, or did the human?
(Just kidding.)

* Alt-Brad *
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
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>Is 50's worse?  "In the mood" to "rock around the clock"

I was a teenager before the 50's ended, so perhaps it's the same thing.....
50's young adults and teenagers where just a little more sedate than their
60's counterparts, but they certainly helped to show us the way to enjoy life
..... I'm comparing myself to my older sister - she was always outraged by
my behaviour at the time, but since then has expressed her disappointment that
she didn't have the courage to enjoy the 'good life' with me.

Carolyn
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In a previous article, AHARTFIE@DRUNIVAC.DREW.EDU (Adam/LH) says:

>Hi everyone,
>        Just thought I'd send out a quick hello, as I'm visiting at
>Drew and have a free 9600 connection.  Haven't even looked at news
>yet, so I have no idea what's being talked about (but isn't that
>normal?)  Anyway, happy holidays to all, and may the upcoming year be
>positive in all respects.
>
>--Adam/LH (back online temporarily)

ADAM!  HELLO!  Start pawing through all those backed up messages [all
three thousand by now] and jump back in the  pool for a while.  The water's
got some strange fish in it these days...[heck, I'm here, if only 
temporarily]  How's life in the Real lane?

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Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 18:11:02 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Seasonal comfort and joy
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:Well, to be honest, it doesn't really faze me one way or the
:other--if whoever posted that wants God to bless me, then that's
:fine.  That doesn't mean that I have to believe that such a god
:exists.  But I can appreciate the sentiment behind the statement.
:Does that make sense?

Whatever.  Hey, want to hear a funny one?  abh *prayed* for me the
other day!  Bwahahahahahha!

I think it was sent back 'return to sender' :-))))

G
From: ll23%nemomus@academic.nemostate.edu (Karen Kay)
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Posted on 15 Dec 1992 at 18:53:00 by CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
>Sounds like a good idea, eh?  Why not sell a few selected states (I suggest
>starting with Mississippi, Idaho, Rhode Island, and Oregon (:-)).

Surely Missouri should be on anyone's list of useless states?

Karen
who works for the State of Missouri
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Now for something completely anal-retentiv
              13 Dec 1992 13:28:38 GMT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

I lurk on some lists and am an active participant on others (this one,
POLITICS, and VAMPYRES, for example).

Evelyn
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (71)
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        >I am but an egg.
        This leads me to a cool new question which I think everyone should check
        out.

How many angels can sit on a pinhead? (Are you volunteering?)

G
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Subject:      Re: Burke again

Greetings,

Pungi sticks are sharpened stakes, often made of bamboo, that are placed
in camouflaged holes so the intended victim (usually a soldier, but often
an animal) will step on the stake and become injured.  In Vietnam, the
stakes were usually coated with excrement and caused serious infections in
the victim.  I can't quite imagine how one would get a punji-stick scar
on one's stomac, but I guess one could fall on the stake.  Usually the
injury was to the feet.

Four-o-clocks are part of the family Nyctaginaceae.  The species in question
is likely the Mirabilis.  Bougainvillea are related and often found in the
southern climes.

I think the phrase "those...don't come up the middle" clearly means Dixie
Lee doesn't have to worry about imminent danger since Vidrine and Mapes and
their associates won't act directly while under scrutiny (as the next
statement "There are too many people looking at them..." suggests).  Has
someone already suggested this is a football image?

I couldn't find the Evangeline reference scanning the chapter, but the key
is likely that Longfellow's poem relates the expulsion of the inhabitants of
Acadia in Nova Scotia.  As I've mentioned before, these Acadians are "cajuns."

I suspect a stump jumper is just Texas "white trash," but I don't know.

Marty
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Date:         Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:31:35 CST
From:         Bernard Chien Perro <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      It's About Time!
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Sure looks good to see UGA responding to the ping command again.  I was
afraid I was gonna have to trudge over to Georgia tomorrow to get things
going.
                        o/.\____/
         -- Bernard      \______|
                         / \  / \
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      WORDS-L TP: Ruth's Turn
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>I don't know who the "Flying Peanut" is, but I'll give a guess:
>Louis Bleriot, the first Frenchman to fly.
>
>Evelyn Duncan

I would have been really surprised if you had known. 'The Flying Peanut' was
the nickname used to refer to Sir Joh Bjelke-Petersen.... previous Premier
of the State of Queensland - he had been a peanut farmer before he entered
politics.

Ruth - pick a category!

Carolyn
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:24:12 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Supra 14.4
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On Thu, 17 Dec 1992, Aaron L Dickey wrote:

> I was about to ask for a Supra 14.4 for Christmas.  Is that a Bad Idea?

Only if you hate blinding speed.

Oh, and Aaron, I haven't had a chance to re-welcome you to the list. I
have one word for you: RodneyKing.

-abh
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