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From: peggy@cc.gatech.edu (Margaret Simpson)
Subject: Re: FEMALE DIVE BUDDY WANTED, BOSTON
Reply-To: peggy@cc.gatech.edu (Margaret Simpson)
Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:46:38 GMT

In article <1458600007@igc.apc.org> Jordan Weinstein <jweinstein@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
>I am the writer of the WANTED posting.  Four people have so far re-
>sponded:   three men and one married woman.  It is interesting that the
>three men attacked the posting, while the woman (who responded privately
>via email) sent her support for my openness and honesty and directness.
>It raises some interesting questions.  Why are men threatened by this
>kind of posting and women not?  Are male divers so invested in the
>machismo of diving that an expression of emotional need (for love) is
>taken as a sign of weakness that must be attacked?  To my mind, using
>rec.scuba to find a dive buddy/partner is as valid as using it to find
>a dive computer...both are connected to scuba, and no one, to my mind,
>has laid down any rules for the use of this conference.  Or perhaps
>some of you think this is a club for boys only?  
>

I am a single female.  I found the posting highly offensive and
inappropriate.  While I certainly don't mind diving with men, I 
wouldn't dive with you as I have serious questions about your
judgement.  (And if that's your idea of an expression of love...)

Please don't think you bothered only the boys.

-- Peggy




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Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: pstonge@TrentU.CA (cmdr keener)
Subject: Re: Decompression "games"
Reply-To: pstonge@TrentU.CA
Organization: Trent University, Peterborough
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:06:50 GMT


In article <NN87wB2w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, waldo@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Todd J. Dicker) writes:
>That's it!  Maybe we could convince Nintendo to create an underwater 
>housing for the Game Boy!

	Hey!  Why not?!  Instead of the housing, why not make a D/C that 
would permit you to 'play' on one side of the console and have the deco 
stuff on the other (putting deco status and pressure somewhere on the game 
display).  All we'd have to do is make sure that we can change the game 
cartridges...

 - Pete
From: phil@dynamed.dynamedia.COM (Phil Menzies)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Monterey boat dive 2/6 spaces avail
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:37:00 PST
Organization: DynaMedia
Reply-To: phil@dynamedia.COM
Distribution: us
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

 The Tandem Dive Club is running another great morning boat dive
 trip on the "Cypress Sea" in the Carmel & Monterey Bay area.
 Despite the chances for storms, this time of year offers some of
 the best visibility to be enjoyed in the area (30-60 ft)!


 We have a few spaces left after TDC member signup, so we are
 accepting non-members on the trip. So don't miss out - signup NOW
 and get your payment in to ensure you get on the boat.  Call 
 first to make sure there are spaces left before sending your money.

                            Dive with
                  T A N D E M   D I V E   C L U B
                         on the dive boat
                      C Y P R E S S   S E A
                               on
                 S A T U R D A Y    February  6, 1993

 The Cypress Sea gets you to the primo dive sites in Carmel Bay and
 Monterey Bay fast and comfortably.  Discover for yourself this
 unique and exciting style of boat diving offered by Cypress Charters.

 FEATURES:
   - 50-foot C-Craft all-aluminum open sea boat
   - Fully equipped with the best electronics on the market
   - Powered by twin diesels with cruising speed of 20 knots
   - All tanks provided:
      - 80 c.f. and 67 c.f. aluminum, filled on-board to 3000 psi
   - Giant dive platform for easy reboarding after dives
   - Heated/Air conditioned cabin, large enough for all divers
   - T.V., stereo and full galley with microwave ovens
   - Head and HOT showers

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   - Departure:  7:00 am,  Return:  around 2:00 pm
   - Boat departs from Wharf #2, Monterey, CA
   - 3 dives
   - Continental breakfast, buffet lunch, hot/cold beverages provided
   - Diving as far south as Diablos Pinnacles (weather permitting)

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  Payment in full is due upon sign up.
  Checks should be made out to  "Tandem Dive Club" and
       sent to:
           Debra Hay
           Tandem Computers, Inc., LOC 251-05
           10100 N. Tantau Avenue
           Cupertino, CA 95014

INFORMATION & RESERVATIONS:

   Call Debra Hay at (408) 285-6442
       or email to HAY_DEBRA@tandem.COM



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Phil Menzies  -  DynaMedia, Alameda CA
Internet:        phil@dynamedia.COM
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Jim Beutel)
Subject: Searchin For Karen Bishman
Reply-To: beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS ASIC, Chandler, AZ
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:45:26 GMT

Desparately seeking Karen Bishman. Florida State Grad,
Former Lockheed-Burbank employee, Formerly Mermaid Memorabilia
owner. Originally from central Florida, last know southern
California. Former ARCO plaza contractor.

Regards,
 



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Motorola SPS ASIC            beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com
1300 N. Alma School Rd       Computer Operations 
M/S CH290  AZ50              office:  (602) 821-4967
Chandler, Arizona 85224	     telefax: (602) 821-4963
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The Surgeon General has determined that Skydiving is Extremely addicting. 



Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: aa372@Freenet.carleton.ca (Mike Dusseault)
Subject: Re: Decompression "games"
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:17:17 GMT


I havedived the back mines.  The water is always about 38 F.  Quite
cold.  Thank god I just bought a dry suit.  On sale.  Wik.
If you ever need a dive buddy, just gimma E-mail.  I live in
Ottawa, Ontario.  (You must live near, or you wouldn't do the
mines)
-- 

                                                   --- Mike Dusseault ---
CIS: 73150,527
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: graff@atux01.att.com (Christopher Graff)
Subject: Re: FEMALE DIVE BUDDY WANTED, BOSTON
Organization: AT&T Corporate Education and Training
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:31:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.154638.12294@cc.gatech.edu>, peggy@cc.gatech.edu (Margaret Simpson) writes:
> In article <1458600007@igc.apc.org> Jordan Weinstein <jweinstein@igc.apc.org> writes:
> >
> >I am the writer of the WANTED posting.  Four people have so far re-
> >sponded:   three men and one married woman.  It is interesting that the
> >three men attacked the posting, while the woman (who responded privately
> >via email) sent her support for my openness and honesty and directness.
> >It raises some interesting questions.  Why are men threatened by this
> >kind of posting and women not?  Are male divers so invested in the
> >machismo of diving that an expression of emotional need (for love) is
> >taken as a sign of weakness that must be attacked?  To my mind, using
> >rec.scuba to find a dive buddy/partner is as valid as using it to find
> >a dive computer...both are connected to scuba, and no one, to my mind,
> >has laid down any rules for the use of this conference.  Or perhaps
> >some of you think this is a club for boys only?  
> >
> 
> I am a single female.  I found the posting highly offensive and
> inappropriate.  While I certainly don't mind diving with men, I 
> wouldn't dive with you as I have serious questions about your
> judgement.  (And if that's your idea of an expression of love...)
> 
> Please don't think you bothered only the boys.
> 
> -- Peggy
> 
> 
> 
> 
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	Nice Cows. I think there is enough mail coming into this newsgroup
	that deal with all kinds of diving subjects we have to filter 
	through to find what we like to read and respond to that we dont need 
	any excess BS in here like companionship ads and this note I happen
	to be submitting.  As a guy I find Mr. Weinstein's article annoying
	because I have to filter through it. 
	Enough said. ... So Peggy what are you doing this summer?

	Hey ! Just kidding.


	I will ask a question to the NET though. If you have been to Truk,
	Palau or Yap what are the locals like? Were there any problems
	in how americans are treated over there. Im going in November and
	I am curious as what to expect. Ive already read the archives so
	if anyone has anything to add please let me know. Much apreciated.

	Chris 

	attmail!atux01!graff





Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: ram@watson.bms.com (Gena Ram)
Subject: Re: FEMALE DIVE BUDDY WANTED, BOSTON
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:46:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.154638.12294@cc.gatech.edu>, peggy@cc.gatech.edu (Margaret Simpson) writes...
>In article <1458600007@igc.apc.org> Jordan Weinstein <jweinstein@igc.apc.org> writes:
>>
>>I am the writer of the WANTED posting. 
>>some of you think this is a club for boys only?  

>I am a single female.....
>Please don't think you bothered the boys....                

I've got a great idea, why don't we just get back to talking about diving?!
Gena  
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: johnb@chaos.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Brown)
Subject: Sound Direction Indicators 
Organization: gordian.com
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:17:04 GMT


Have you ever wondered how cool it would be to be able to detect
the direction that an underwater sound was coming from?  How 
helpful it would be in locating a lost buddy without surfacing?
Etc, etc...

Does anyone know of such a device that can indicate the direction
of underwater sound since its speed defeats the human ear's phase
decoding mechanism which we use on the surface?

Just wondering ...



Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: mluoto@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Markku Luoto)
Subject: AUSTRALIA diving locations
Keywords: all, everything and anything goes ?
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:54:01 GMT


Hello there,

	Those of you whom have any info on diving operators / locations
	"DOWN UNDER" - that is in AUSTRALIA, please share it with me,
	preferably by E-mail...

	Now this applyes also to other places than the GREAT BARRIER...
	since I hope to be spending a year there... Also I wouldn't mind
	finding a scuba related job over there since I'm staying quite
	some time over there... (CMAS**** and PADI divemaster, also
	quite experienced in diving "in difficult conditions" as most
	serious divers in baltic sea...)

Thanks a bunch ,

ps. is there diving in other places than the great barrier region... I
mean south, west, north -coasts ???





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From: Jordan Weinstein <jweinstein@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Date: 06 Jan 93 22:21 PST
Subject: Re: FEMALE DIVE BUDDY WANTED, BOSTON
Nf-ID: #R:cdp:1458600006:cdp:1458600007:000:822
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!jweinstein    Jan  6 22:21:00 1993


I am the writer of the WANTED posting.  Four people have so far re-
sponded:   three men and one married woman.  It is interesting that the
three men attacked the posting, while the woman (who responded privately
via email) sent her support for my openness and honesty and directness.
It raises some interesting questions.  Why are men threatened by this
kind of posting and women not?  Are male divers so invested in the
machismo of diving that an expression of emotional need (for love) is
taken as a sign of weakness that must be attacked?  To my mind, using
rec.scuba to find a dive buddy/partner is as valid as using it to find
a dive computer...both are connected to scuba, and no one, to my mind,
has laid down any rules for the use of this conference.  Or perhaps
some of you think this is a club for boys only?  

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: aa372@Freenet.carleton.ca (Mike Dusseault)
Subject: Re: Mixed gas algorithms
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:41:01 GMT


I thank you for the information.  I will have to pick up the Buhlman book.
The reason I'm asking is I have written my own deco program.  Works with
any NITROX, uses values like the USN, but a tad more conservative.  It;s
coming along quite nicely and I am pleased.  I'm a software engineer, and
will be getting my instructors soon (this summer).  Although I have no
practical uses for mixed gas diving at this time, I don't see why I can't
put them into the program.  I also want to make the prog much more
conservative, but don't want to resort to inventing my own compartment
model.  Anyhow, it's a facinating project.  And you are right, the
actual program is easy to write.  The interfaces almost always take up
tons of time.  But such is life.

--- Mike ---
-- 

                                                   --- Mike Dusseault ---
CIS: 73150,527
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: "Andrew Luck" <p00078@psilink.com>
Subject: RE:   Decompression "Games"
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:05:08 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

I post this for a scuba guy who has no net access:


  I entertain myself during lengthy decomp stops with a little plastic slide-
tile puzzle. This is the type puzzle with four rows and four columns and one
tile missing to allow movement of the remaining tiles. It's a no-brainer but it
does pass the time. If you prefer chess, and find your dive buddy a willing,
worthy opponent there are "travel" chess games available. This type game is
designed for use while travelling by car, bus, train, plane or pack mule. The
pieces stick to the board with magnets and therefore should preclude you from
any searching/silting problems. This, and possibly other "travel" games,
should probably be found in toy stores.

  In regard to your question about line markers, the NSS Cave Diving Manual
(1982) shows a triangular piece of tape (duct tape, no doubt) folded together
over the guideline pointing toward the nearest exit. This is a less expensive
marker, but in a silt-out or lights-out situation I think the Dive+Rite
marker would prove more reliable. In that respect it's worth three of my
dollars anyday.

PADI, NSS-CDS, IAND
Lewis McDorman
From: rbennet1@neumann.une.edu.au (Robert Bennetts.)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Jacques Cousteau's dive gear??
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:48:06 GMT


	Hi all...
	
	This morning I was watching 'Cousteau', it was a 1988 episode, and he was diving in and around New Zealand.
	What intrigued me was his equipment....He was wearing a completely silver coloured wetsuit, and had just a medium sized silver box on his back, rather than a traditional tank.
	Does anyone know what this was? Is it just a cover over his tank (in which case his tank would have to be pretty small or a very odd shape) or was it something hoopy like a rebreather, or something else?
	All the dive crew of the Calypso had these things, and they also wore some sort of helmet I think.
	Is he perhaps using two small tanks (not unlike the original aqualung) with some sort of cover over it? He was also using an 'old fashioned' double hose type regulator.

	I was just curious, and wondered if anybody on the net had seen theses and knew what it was?

	Thanks very much in advance...


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          |Ross Bennetts             |  /. \/| In The  |
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Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: jbreeden@netcom.com (John Breeden)
Subject: Re: Personal Safety Equipment
Keywords: Flare Strobe Flag Safety
Organization: Netcom - Somewhere in the S.F. Bay Area
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:58:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.161047.2609@csd.uwe.ac.uk> rj_sande@csd.bristol-poly.ac.uk writes:
>Whilst on a dive in Indonesia, with a 'lax-safety-standards' outfit, I was
>in a situation where us three surfaced divers were drifting away from a moored
>cover boat. The guide had towed a buoy, but the cox was not watching. I spent 
>a worrying five minutes trying to attract the boats attention from a 1/4 of 
>a mile away. If they had not seen us, next stop Papua New Guinea !

Look at the bright side - great reefs! :-)

>
>Does anyone else already have experience of the effectiveness of Flares / 
>Personal Flags / Strobes etc ?
>

After a similar experience in Palau a few years ago I opted for a Dive Alert
(don't know if you have them over there). This thing is a REALLY LOUD horn
that attaches to your inflater hose (It's REALLY small too).

When I say LOUD - I mean well above pain threshold (It's VERY dangorous to
discharge it anywhere near people - it can cause severe hearing damage).

Dive Alert claims it's good for signaling a boat at 1 mile (which I have
no doubt). 1/4 mile would be a cinch.

-- 

 John Robert Breeden, Hughes Lan Systems
          jbreeden@kailua.hls.com, johnb@hls.com, jbreeden@netcom.com

 ------------------- cut here and you'll break your monitor -------------------

      "The nice thing about standards is that you have so many to choose 
      from. If you don't like any of them, you just wait for next year's 
      model."
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: aa372@Freenet.carleton.ca (Mike Dusseault)
Subject: Re: Decompression "games"
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:44:23 GMT


Maybe your success rate is hampered by the fact that you AREN'T holding
your breath for 10 seconds or so.  You do this because the rising bubbles
from your previous breath have to get out of the way or they will
mess up your ring.  BTW, this is the time for me to insert this:
DISCLAIMER:  You do this at your own risk.  You have been advised...
Holding your breath is not a good thing to do.  I however have been E-mailed
a possible way to reduce the risk.  Exhale half of your air out, THEN
hold your breath...  However, due to the risk of embolism, etc, I do not
do this myself.  I find other ways to enjoy myself.
-- 

                                                   --- Mike Dusseault ---
CIS: 73150,527
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: tstead@cs.umr.edu (Tim Steadham)
Subject: Hello all, again *groan*
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:16:38 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

Dam, dam, dam, I do not know what the problem is, but every time I put my sig
at the end of a post, my entire post gets cutt off.  Any how, I am new to this
newsgroup, and I just want to get a feel for the type of people that post 
here.  Open water divers, commercial divers, technical divers?  Pro-deco,     
anti-deco or what?  Well, I guess I should tell you just a wee bit about me.
I am certified by three agencies, SSI open water, IAND Nitrox, and NACD cave.
I am sure you can get my feelings on Nirtox/technical diving from this *grin*
I am a little upset at all of the negative publicity about Nitrox and cave
diving that is going around.  I see slogans like "Decompression rules were not
meant to be bent" in Underwater USA, and I have to wonder.  I don't mean to
step on anyone's toes, and please excuse me if I offend you, but I seem to think
that all the negative hype about technical diving encompasses some of the same
ignorance and lack of understanding/willingness to understand as does the
anti-nuclear movement right now.  (BTW, I am a graduating senior in Nuclear
Engineering at UMR)  Anyway, with that aside, I just want to say hello, and
that I am looking forward to reading some interesting posts on the subject in
the next couple months.
Later, my girlfriend is nagging me to get home...
Tim
 
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: jal@truckee.qualcomm.com (Jeff Levin)
Subject: Re: ?? Bottom Scratchers Dive club ??
Summary: They still exist.
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:50:30 GMT

The Original Bottom Scratchers still exist.  Five surviving members still
live in the San Diego area and get together on occasion.  Other clubs in
the area sometimes get the treat of these guys coming by for a talk where
they show old pictures and equipment and tell great fish stories about
how our local waters used to be for fish, lobster, and abalone hunting.

I don't think they are doing much diving.  They aren't what one would
call a really active club at this point.

For more information, folks can contact the club historian:

	Wally Potts
	4384 Coronado
	San Diego, CA  92107


-- Cheers!
-- Jeff Levin               jal@qualcomm.com               (619) 597-5561
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: Sipadon/Indonesia
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:14:55 GMT


In article <C0pGH4.16yG@austin.ibm.com>, don@dlong.austin.ibm.com () writes:
>Followup-To: donlong@austin.ibm.com
              ^^^rec.scuba^^^
>
>I'm planning a trip to Indonesia this year and I was curious whether anyone
>on the net has been to Sipadon, Java, Bali, Flores, Sulawesi and any of the
>other islands in that area.  The diving is supposed to be spectacular there -
>does anyone know firsthand whether this is true ?

One of the instructors I dive with went last fall.  We raves about it, despite
having broken a rib!

When it warms up, drop by Windy Pt.(the private park) and look for me or Jay,
we're with For Divers Only and the park staff knows us all too well  :-)
--
Dillon Pyron                      | The opinions expressed are those of the
TI/DSEG Lewisville VAX Support    | sender unless otherwise stated.
(214)462-3556 (when I'm here)     |
(214)492-4656 (when I'm home)     |"Pacts with the devil are not legally
pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com          |binding!"
PADI DM-54909                     |-Friar Tuck   _Robin Hood:The Hooded Man_
From: polbj384@emory.edu (Kaenan Hertz)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: dive computer and dry suit wanted
Date: 5 Jan 93 15:16:14 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I'm in the market for a dry-suit and a dive computer.  If anyone
has one they want to get rid of, please let me know.  I'll
entertain almost any dive computer, but it goes without saying it
must be in good working condition (also for the dry suit) :=)  As
for the suit, probably size L/XL will do fine and any material will
be considered (price dependent).  If you live in the Atlanta are,
all the better because I can come see the stuff.  Thanks in
advance.....

Kaenan Hertz
polbj384@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: rrrucke@srv.PacBell.COM (Rod Rucker)
Subject: Re: Down Currents
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:08:27 GMT

In article <lkrl46INNfr7@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> narad@Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>hi dan-
>
>I have experienced down currents twice, once in the Solomon Islands and
>once in Grand Cayman.  The Grand Cayman one was most recent, so I
>can give you an accurate description:
>
much stuff deleted
>
>
>	For background, we are both experienced divers and have good
>buoyancy control.  I have over 180 dives.
>
Interesting experience.  I"d like to hear a story like this from a person
who says, "'by the way', I'm a poor diver and have lousy buoyancy control." :-)

-- 
Rod Rucker
rrrucke@srv.PacBell.COM
PADI DM-47240