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From: rg@kunikpok.UUCP (R.G. Keen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Tube Amp Transformers
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 20:41:09 CST
Organization: Kunikpok Kennels and Komputers (Pet Project)

Responding to AK - 
Transformers die when you either burn through the insulation and the 
resulting short circuit kills the circuit driving it along with the 
now dead transformer, or a winding opens. If you happen to be driving a 
transformer from a moderately energetic source and it shorts, the short 
is driven with all of the energy available to the transformer and an 
interesting display or smoke and occasionally flames results. The open is 
much less impressive, it just stops. Unless you have an intermittent, 
there is little notice in power or sound. You will probably smell an 
incipient failure before you hear it.

R.G.
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From: bt16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Bill Thomas)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,alt.guitar.tab,rec.music.makers.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature
Subject: Re: Rumors of my death....
Date: 11 Dec 92 08:33:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wf_Bva_00Uh_83nmBg
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


James "String" Bender Lives! Hallelujah!
From: harper@godot.think.com (Jim Harper)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Kurt Taylor(Ibanez Iceman)
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:55:32
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: godot.think.com

Kurt,
Thanks for your reply to my initial post I don't know how
to post to individual people so I had to send it to the group.
The Iceman I have has a single in line headstock no binding
2 vol 1 tone open coil (no covers) pickups one is a zebra 
bridge and tailpiece is similiar to a Les Paul "Iceman" is
not engraved on the truss rod cover but "Ibanez" is inlayed
on the headstock. I probably wont sell it but I would consider
a trade for a USA Charvel (especially 22 fret Strat Headstock)
Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

Thanks again
Jim

Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
From: till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman)
Subject: Re: single coil hum cancelling idea...opinions?
Reply-To: till@lucid.com
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:35:10

   From: hsu22@wharton.upenn.edu
   Date: 16 Dec 92 10:29:17 GMT
   Organization: University of Pennsylvania

   Recently, I bought a Strat Elite and opened it up to take a look at the
   guts of the thing.  Lo and behold, there was a fourth pickup in it! 
   This one had no polepieces, and was just stuck there under the pickguard.
   I gathered from the low noise of the guitar that it was reverse wound,
   reverse polarity, and always connected to the output--in this way, it helps
   reduce hum quite a bit.  

Yes, it's called a "Dummy Pickup" and it was an advertised feature of the
Strat Elite.  The first instrument that I know of to incorporate a dummy
pickup is the Alembic bass.

   Now, I also own an American Standard, with a DiMarzio HS2 in the bridge.
   When I stuck the HS2 in, I lost hum-cancelling in one of my fave positions,
   the bridge/mid.  But after I saw the guts of the Elite, I got to thinking 
   that maybe I could do the same for the Standard.  

Uh-oh.  

   If anyone has tried this, or has theoretical knowledge on the success
   likelihood of this venture, TELL ME.  QUICK.  BEFORE  I decide to take 
   the original bridge pickup, stick it in the middle position, knock the 
   pole pieces out of the middle position pickup, wire it directly to 
   the volume knob, and screw the pickup under the pickguard into the body.
   If this won't work, I NEED TO KNOW.  I got this cocka mamy idea just from
   conjecture at the electronics of the Elite--I think I'm right, but I would
   like a second, third, fourth, hundredth opinion.  

If your goal is to have a guitar with a dummy pickup, you should note that
the hum cancelling signal from the dummy pickup is typically combined with
the signal from the main pickups in a preamp stage, so that the impedance
of the dummy pickup won't load the main pickups or screw with their sound.

(Also, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say it's impossible to knock the
pole pieces out of a Strat pickup without damaging the coil.)

If your goal is to kill the hum in the mid/bridge position of your
switch you can do one of the following:
  a: put the original Fender bridge pickup back
  b: swap the neck and middle pickups (the DiMarzio will cancel with your
Fender neck pickup but not with your middle)
  c: reverse the phase of the DiMarzio
  d: put the original bridge pickup back, and put the DiMarzio in the
middle positon.

 -- Don


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: sonny@novell.com (Rosanno "Sonny" DeLara)
Subject: Seeking advice on rack-type tube amps and speaker cabinets
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:56:38 GMT

Went to the Guitar Center in San Francisco last weekend and tried out
a Strat Plus -> GSP21 Legend -> ADA Microtube 200 -> Marshall 4x12 1960
setup and I was impressed.

I already have the first 2 items in the chain above and am soon planning to 
replace my Fender M80 Chorus combo amp with a rack-mount type of tube amp 
and a speaker cabinet.

I'm not an expert on the various brands of rack-mount tube amps and 
speaker cabinets and I'm seeking advice if I'm heading in the right
direction.  

Here are some of the questions that I have :
  -  How would you compare rack-mount micro-tube amps with some of the
     conventional amp heads like the Marshall Valvestates?
  -  Is the ADA Microtube 200 a good choice and is it reliable?
  -  Are there any other microtube amps you can recommend that may be
     better that's within the $700 list price range?
  -  How would you compare the Marshall 4x12 cabinets with the ones
     by Crate, Ampeg, and others?  I learned that both Marshall and
     Crates are equipped with Celestion speakers (not sure about the Ampeg) 
     but there's quite a big difference in price.  Is it just the brand 
     name Marshall or there are some vital parts/electronics in these 
     cabinets that really differentiates the Marshalls from the others?
  -  Are there significant differences between the Marshall 
     1960 (300 watts/List $899) and 8412 (140 watts/List $649) other than 
     their wattage ratings and prices?   If I don't need all the
     300 watts power handling capability of the 1960, would I be missing 
     anything important if I go with the 8412 (due to its lower price)?  
     Moreover, would the 200 watt ADA microtube be too much of a power rating 
     for this kind of cabinet? 
  -  Lastly, just wondering where's the best reputable place to get the best 
     deal on these types of items.

Thanks for being patient in reading my questions.  Your comments, suggestions, 
and ideas will surely be appreciated.

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| Internet address:sonny@novell.com   but have we found the same old fears, |
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: sswoo@eos.ncsu.edu (SANG SIK WOO)
Subject: Question if there is any video tapes for the beginners 
Keywords: Video tapes
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:05:35 GMT

Hello, you all musicians! :)

I am writing to ask if there is any video tapes that teaches
you how to play guitar for the beginners.   Yes, I am gonna try
to learn how to play classical guitar.

Please provide me with some guides, suggestions, instructions, or
any type of directions for beginners.

Thanks a bunch!

Sang S. Woo
(ssw@sequoia.nesc.epa.gov)
(919)990-1571
From: stefan@ntg.com (Stefan Biskup)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings .... any ideas???
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:29:58 GMT
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

In article <Bz04CC.GD8@ns1.nodak.edu> jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson) writes:
>Check out the guitar player issue w/ Sonic Youth on the cover. If you
>can't find it, mabey I could dig it up. They're pretty bizare. BTW Sonic
>
>                                                 Jon
     Pleas post some and the songs they refer if that info is included.
It would be most apprecciated. also BTW in the CD booklet for their BAD MOON
RISING record there are some tunings written down. I don't own the CD so I can't 
post but for those interested anyway.


                       stefan 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: olavt@ulrik.uio.no (Olav Torvund)
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings, what's the point?
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
	<OLAVT.92Dec15164346@ulrik.uio.no>
	<1992Dec17.223241.14784@athena.mit.edu>
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:49:17 GMT

Fingering is of course one point. Playing in an open tuning can allow
you to play some melody/lead while you have a chord ringing on open
strings.

But it also affects the sound of the guitar. The guitar produces a lot
of overtones, and the over-tone spectrum will change with an alternate
tuning. It might give a fuller and richer sound, but on the expence of
flexibility. An open tuning might be very well suited for playing in a
limited number of keys, and it is not very well suited for playing
very cromatic music.

Olav Torvund
University of Oslo
Norway
Olavt@jus.uio.no

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jdell@maggie.mit.edu (John Ellithorpe)
Subject: Re: rec.music.makers.guitar
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:34:53 GMT

On 14 Dec 92 20:16:17 GMT, foc@ceti.csustan.edu (Francisco Orozco) said:


> I was wondering if someone could let this new guitar enthusiast
> what would be a good starter guitar at around  $300-$400. I was thinking
> about a Carvin. I also want a guitar that has good hardware and that is
> not so  newbie that I will out grow in 6months time 
> or whenever I become proficient. Quality is also a factor.

When I was starting out, which doesn't seem that long ago.  I got a Japanese
Fender Strat.  I liked it alot.  I got it for $299 brand new, as I remember,
from this place called Sightsinger somewhere in Costa Mesa, CA.  I bought my
amp at the same time, so I bargained the joint price down, so I'm not exactly
sure what each one separately would have cost.  Anyway, I liked it alot.  I
found the quality to be pretty good.  I was warned away from the squire strats
which are made in, I think, Korea.  Also, there are Mexican strats, but I
don't know much about them.

Now, I've moved up and got myself a Charvel, which I really like alot.  I also
think if you wanted to get an American strat, you should be able to get a used
one in your price range.  Just go around price checking.

A very helpful thing for me was, when I went looking for guitars, I brought a
friend who knew alot about guitars, etc.

Good Luck,

John
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From: tespy@sw.stratus.com (Tony Espy)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Ibanez Iceman
Date: 18 Dec 1992 22:17:14 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: orion.ts.stratus.com

In article <HARPER.92Dec16134547@godot.think.com>, harper@godot.think.com (Jim Harper) writes:
> I just picked up an Ibanez Iceman for almost nothing ($200) I
> bought it because it was weird looking. I was wondering if any
> one knows anything about them (I don't know anything).
> Specifically I'd like to know wood type when it was made (aprox)
> what it went for new whats it worth now and any other info on
> this bizarre ax. The one I got is black with 2 humbuckers.22 frets
> rosewood fretboard,bolt on neck.
> 

  Don't know what kind of wood they're made of, but I think it's a 
  great sounding guitar!! I had a chance to buy an early proto-type
  about 10 years ago, and I passed it up for an SG ( which I love and
  still own ).  I know Paul Stanley from KISS played them when they
  first came out ( and still does I think ).  I also vaguely remember
  seeing them in Dead Leopard videos too.  Nice Find!!

					.
				/tony . . .
					.


		"Faster, and faster till the thrill of speed
		 overcomes the fear of death." - H.S. Thompson
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Fender Deluxe Amplifier
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:35:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Dec15.214540.7611@dvs.com> chieh@dvs.com (Warner Bros.) writes:
>Hi,
>	I've just recently purchased a Fender Reverb Deluxe, and wondered if
>I could get some opinions as to how much it's worth.  I paid $200 Canadian.
>	I was also wondering if anyone could figure out how old it is.  The
>serial number is A32240, and I've been told it's about 12 years old.
>
>		Thanks in advance.

It probably is a late '70's/early'80's model and if it works OK and is in 
good condition cosmetically, you got a darned good bargain. I've seen these
(in good condition) go for as much as US$350 here in Texas where they are
currently a pretty sought-after amp amongst blues guitarists (and country, and
newwave/punksters) for its portability and classic sound.
-- 
=============================================================================
Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)
	      doh #0000001200
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
          we shall learn the truth." -- August Kekule' (1890)
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Subject: Re: Brian Setzers sound on Stray Cat Strut
Organization: Logic Modeling Inc of Beaverton Oregon
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:14:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.181328.16136@cbfsb.cb.att.com> bky@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.a.stafford) writes:
>   I have been trying to learn Stray Cat Strut and I have become extremely
>frustrated because no amount of tweaking will get my Strat to sound like
>whatever Brian Setzer is playing on Stray Cat Strut.
>   Does anyone know what he plays on this song?
>   Does he use any effects?
>   Is it possible to get a Strat to produce this 'Setzer' sound?
>
    Gretsch Country Gentleman (I think; someone will correct me if I'm way
    off.  It's a white full-body Gretsch.)  Just like Duane Eddy and Chet
    Atkins.
    It's unlikely that a 'Strat will ever sound like one of these.

    - Larry Huntley


-- 
         (larryh@lmc.com)         | I'm going to the love-in to sit
     Logic Modeling Corporation   |    and play my bongos in the dirt.
          Beaverton,  OR          |        - "Flower Punk", Frank Zappa
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Tube amp transformers
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:40:37 GMT

In article <F45PVB1w165w@kunikpok.UUCP> rg@kunikpok.UUCP (R.G. Keen)  
writes:
>> While we are on this subject:
>> I have an old Heathkit W4-B tube amplifier with a blown output 
>> transformer.
>> Anybody got a spare in their junk-box (or know what its specifications 
>> should be)?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> george@alpha.ee.ufl.edu
> 
> Further while we are on this subject: I'd like to try my hand at winding 
> an output transformer. I have some experience from my power supply 
> design days, but haven't done an output transformer yet. Anybody got 
> DEAD outputs I could dewind to research how they are made?
> 
> R.G. 

How exactly do these things die? I mean, they're just a bunch of coiled  
wire, right? No moving parts, and nothing particularly fragile like tubes  
or semiconductors. Do the wires break or something? Just curious. Also,  
does the amp's sound degrade for a while when the transformer is blowing,  
or is it an instant shut-off sort of failure?

AK
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: rfries@sceng.ub.com (Robert Fries)
Subject: Re: Mesa/Boogie Amp Prices
Organization: Ungermann Bass
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:16:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.063814.13203@reed.edu> rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour) writes:

>In article <Bz1op5.KxI@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mayer@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (James  
>Mayer) writes:
>> darryl@berlioz.nsc.com (Darryl Williams) writes:
>> 
>> >I was wondering if anyone who has purchased either the Mesa/Boogie Mark IV
>> >or the Triaxis preamp could let me know how much I should expect to pay
>> >for these amps. I am thinking about purchasing one of these in the near
>> >future and would like to have an ideal as to what kind of price leverage
>> >I have. Please post to the net as I am sure others are interested.
>> >Also, I would like to hear any comments/opinions that anyone has regarding
>> >these amplifiers. Thanks.
>> 
>> 
>> Darryl,  You have no price leverage.  Mese Boogie has firm agreements with
>> their retailers.  You'll pay the same price everywhere.

>       Not so, I've been looking at a Mark IV combo (80w, 1x12"), and one  
>store in town sells it for 1595, while another sells it for 1095. Either they  
>are breeching contract, or this is just formality.

>--
>Robert Seymour                         rseymour@reed.edu
>Departments of Physics and Philosophy  (NeXTmail accepted)
>Artificial Life Project                        Reed College
>Reed Solar Energy Project (SolTrain)   Portland, OR


I'm sure there would be a lot of people interested in a new MKIV for
$1095. At least, I'd be. 

Where ? It would be woth a trip up from California to save $500.

Robert

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Ungermann-Bass Inc.

DISCLAIMER:
    Opinions contained herein are my own, and are not necessarily those
    of Ungermann-Bass.
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (RICE George Matthew)
Subject: Note Frequencies needed
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:39:58 GMT

Hi all,

I was wondering if anybody knew offhand what
frequencies each of the strings vibrate at 
(assuming that they're properly tuned of course :-?

Also will any higher or lower harmonic frequencies also
be obnoxiously present. The lower ones don't matter
too much but the high ones ...ARRRGGHHHH.


Thnx in Advance,

Matthew
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: johnw@ods.com (John Williamson)
Subject: Travel Guitar
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:52:09 GMT


Does anyone have any suggestions on where to find an electric guitar
small enough for traveling with (i.e. fits in a suitcase) ?

Any help would be appreciated.
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From: DAHUGH@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: Patches for Quadraverb please
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:53:43 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

I've not long had a Quadraverb GT and I was hoping someone out there could
let me onto some usefull guitar orientated patches,especially a Sitar type,
as I am new to effects and I'm a bit lost.Please E-mail me as I won't be
able to read this until January.Thanks.
Dave H.
From: holtslander@skyfox
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: RE: Alternate tunings .... any ideas???
Date: 14 DEC 92 20:38:18 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: sask.usask.ca

Ellen MacIlwaine uses A LOT !!! of alternative tuinings in her guitar work
mostly slide.  I figured out the tuning for one of her songs "All To You"
She uses a modified open D tuning, with the high D raised to an E.  Low to
high on the guitar thats DADF#AE.  My favorite are the standard open D
(DADF#AD) and open G (DGDGBD) you can change these to minor tunings by
lower the 2nd or 3rd highest string one tone (Don't remember the details
off the top of my head).  If you are really interested there is a book
on alternative guitar tunings, though I can't remember the author or title
(big help arn't I).

Gord Holtslander
From: MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu (Taka Mizutani)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: US Strat price--good?
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:22:00 GMT
Followup-To: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers.guitar
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec10.220010.4117@news.stolaf.edu>,
ninneman@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Ex-Twin Peaks actor seeks employment)
wrote:
: 
: 
: I've got a friend who's selling a Fender US Strat Deluxe Plus, two years
old,
: with hard case, for $700. It's in perfect shape and plays beautifully.
: 
: Is this a good price? Or am I getting ripped off if I buy it? Anyone with
: opinions (or knows what new ones list for) please please please email me.
: 
: Thanks in advance.
: 
: scot ninnemann
: ninneman@stolaf.edu

In the Philadelphia area, you can buy a brand-new Deluxe Strat Plus for
between $700 and $800. I suggest you bargain the price down, or shop around
and buy a brand-new one.

Taka Mizutani
MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu
From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings, what's the point?
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:51:58 GMT
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

In article <1992Dec17.223241.14784@athena.mit.edu>, juggle@athena.mit.edu
(furious axe demon) wrote: 
> 
> Forgive my ignorance, but other than playing slide guitar, is there
> any reason other than basic laziness why one might want to use an
> alternate tuning other than the standard EADGBe?

   Robert Fripp (of King Crimson, League of Crafty Guitarists, etc ) 
devised what he calls a "new standard tuning" for his Guitar Craft 
groups, which (if I recall correctly) is C G D A E G. You pretty much 
have to customize your strings or the low C is too floppy and the 2nd 
string E will break, etc. The advantages of this tuning are the greater
range, both lower and higher (and this is a real advantage for ensemble
stuff, something GC does lots of), and the symmetry of the fingering,
being tuned in 5ths (except for the 3rd on top), and the increased 
overtones coming from the open strings. The other real point of the 
tuning is to break the usual guitar habits, to intentionally discard
the usual bag of guitar licks. This is something that most people might
not want to do, but there it is.
   

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson)
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings .... any ideas???
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:53:13 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

RE: Sonic Youth.

  If you've ever seen some of those guitars that they use, it's not so much a
matter of being out of tune as *going* out of tune. BTW they beat the
hell out of them too. 

RE: Olav and his illusive H

  Sorry 'bout the name. As far as the H, I guess we learn something new
every day. Apology for ignorance.

Happy Holidays every one  :^)

jh