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From: tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Radar Gun For Sale
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:02:42 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

In article <1992Dec18.194704.2674@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com writes:
>In article <1700@tekgen.bv.tek.com> tkpowell@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Terry Powell) writes:
->|Its really hard for me to believe there are lots of cages traveling over
->|100mph down any road in America, especially one that is heavily used.  Me
->|thinks you are exaggerating.
->
->  Methinks you are naive, Terry.  I used to do the Austin to Oklahoma
->City I-35
->drive that Kent is referring to (and back) about once a month.  Kent is not
->exagerating, at least not by much.  There were usually about four cars
->during
->the trip that would fly by me when I was traveling 70 to 80.  I would say

If you're traveling at 80 you ought to expect there will be faster traffic
unless you think you're always the fasted one on the road.  And if you
know this to be the case, then all the more reason to watch your mirrors
for those flybys.  


->that
->his estimate is not far off.  There are always a few that feel that it is
->their right to sit five feet off your bumper although the lane to the left
->IS empty.
->
No one mentioned anything about an empty left lane with someone hanging 5
feet off your bumper in the right lane.  Also, I'm condoning someone
driving 5 feet off your bumper at any hiway speed.


->  For that matter, Mr. Powell, you have obviously never driven in any of the
->
desert areas.  For instance, while driving up to/from Las Vegas last
->weekend,

Ah but you would be wrong slugo.  I've driven plenty in  Nevada, Utah and
Arizona (plus Montana which isn't desert but is deserted).  I guess we
need to define 'heavy' traffic.   

->the average speed in the desert was in the 80's, with at least 25% going
-over
->90 and at least ten cars I estimate that were over 100 (two I stayed with
-for >a while in the more desolate areas)...
->

Glad to hear it.  Sounds like my kind of traveling.


 ->|  Sounds like you need to pay more attention
->|to your mirrors or get with the program irregardless of the speed.
->
->  Such self-righteousness...

Nothing self-righteous about it.  Paying attention to your mirrors while
in the fast lane of 80 to 100 mph traffic is common sense.  

->
->|  And as
->|far as fucking with traffic by using radar... you're no better than the
->|jerks who park in the left lane. 
->
->  I disagree...  It all depends on how he uses his radar.  I know of a
-number >of instances where such a device would have come in handy, myself.

Such as?  If you want to play junior policeman, get a cellular phone and
call in the offending party.  Playing with your radar gun and other such
nonsense only pisses off people which in my experience tends to escalate
in to ugly things.

->  
->|SLOW TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT
-->
->  And make darn sure you live by this...

Yup, I'm no saint for sure but I do try and observe this rule.  Of course
I'm normally traveling at the DOD minimum.  :-)

Terry
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: MOVIE: Roadside Prophets
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:35:03 GMT

In article <mtrost.724434698@convex.convex.com> mtrost@convex.com (Matthew Trost) writes:
>In <1992Dec14.183233.15793@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>
>
>
>>nit picks: dweeb on bike says its 68 triumph but it has disk
>>brakes. so what year is it? the harley breaks its chain
>>but if you look closely when he stops its still on the bike.
>
>I think Triumph came out with disk brakes in '72 or '73.
>
>Matthew

True, but it's not hard to swap front ends. The frame is where you can 
spot the difference. If the right side has an oil tank, it may be a '68.
Also, the late model side covers appear much more square than the earlier
models, with the air cleaners contained and connected by short rubber hoses
to the carbs. Earlier models came with round chrome air cleaners or velocity
stacks.

Jeff Achenbach
From: joe@bulldog.sybase.com (Joseph Weinstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Loud and Light aftermarket horns...
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:12:45 GMT
Reply-To: joe@bulldog.sybase.com (Joseph Weinstein)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

Hi. This is about my car, but you people would know how to help.

The horn on my car is way too anemic. I rate horns into three categories:

1 - Polite.	Unconsious reaction:	"Some puny commuter is honking at someone."
		Consious reaction:	"Maybe it's me. I'll investigate it as soon
					 as I've finished this lane change."
		Physical reaction:	None
		Examples:		'86 Mustang

2 - Assertive.	Unconsious reaction:	"Someones honking at me! (some immediate
					 irrational guilt)"
		Consious reaction:	"Am I doing anything wrong? I'm changing
					lanes. Maybe there's someone there?"
		Physical reaction:	Slowing of any act-in-progress, like the
					lane change. Investigation.
		Examples:		Mercedes

3 - Assault.	Unconsious reaction:	"JESUS!! DON'T HIT ME!! I'M SORRY!!!!"
					(Gobs of immediate irrational guilt)
		Consious reaction:	Doesn't matter.
		Physical reaction:	Immediate reversal of any act-in-progress,
					eg. A lane change will be aborted with a
					hard swerve back into the original lane.
		Examples:		Some Italian cars, most Semis.

I want category 3. I know cases where the immediate physical reaction prevented
ugliness that was otherwise unavoidable.

Any suggestions? I'd like them light in weight too, because of where I would mount
them. Please email me. I don't read this group. (No time and too much envy)

--
Joe Weinstein   joe@sybase.com   Sybase 1650 65th st.  Emeryville Ca 94608

NOT A DISCLAIMER!   THIS IS THE OFFICIAL OPINION OF AN IMPORTANT CORPORATE
                    ENTITY (NOT SYBASE).     FOR COMPLETE DETAILS SEND $10


--
Joe Weinstein   joe@sybase.com   Sybase 1650 65th st.  Emeryville Ca 94608

NOT A DISCLAIMER!   THIS IS THE OFFICIAL OPINION OF AN IMPORTANT CORPORATE
                    ENTITY (NOT SYBASE).     FOR COMPLETE DETAILS SEND $10
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: 65+ mph turns
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:38:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.204054.17588@wam.umd.edu> delilah@next15pg2.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:
>look, the reason for hanging off while turning is simple... it's not that

[20 lines of physics babble attempting to explain that you get an effectively
greater lean angle by hanging off deleted]

>damn, doesn't anyone but me remember basic physics?

My goodness, I hate to defend him, but getabiked said this in two lines two 
weeks ago. Pay attention now...

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:06:32 GMT

In article <538.2B2BECC5@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
|Just how long do you figure your extremely good luck will hold out, Randy?

  Who said anything about luck, John?  It was all SKILL!! :-)

|Or, do you have a written contract from Fate that says your head will never
|strike anything with enough force to damage it? :-)

  Well, it'll have to be harder than my head, you know?

|Or, let me put it this way. Since it is only circumstance by which your
|helmet has never touched down,

  Says you.

| would you like to take the risk that it won't
|the next time? Care to ride without the helmet until you go down the next
|time, just to prove how safe your head is from receiving a mortal blow?

  Nope, thats why I wear a helmet.  Or hadn't you figured that out?


Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: Libertarians
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:22:01 GMT

In article <4446@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (900) 976-1111 ) writes:
|My sister is a libertarian. It's real cheap when we go out to dinner cause
|she usually just gets a Salad and maybe a Potato(e). Granted, I don't want
|to pay every time we go out, so we alternate. Why don't you just work out
|some kind of an alternation plan like I have done. And by all means I agree
|with your posting.  No one should be forced to pay extra for stuff just
|cause they eat meat. Libertarians should pay sometimes too.

  Tod, the Saturday Night Live skit has been done before, but if you MUST do
it :-), you ought to do it right, and at the end say:

  "VEGETARIANS *aren't* the same as LIBERTARIANS???

Oh...

  never mind..."

     And say it in your best Gilda Radner voice...

("WHAT'S ALL THIS I HEAR ABOUT RADIO TIRES??  Why should a tire have a radio?")


Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: todd@psgi.UUCP (Todd Doolittle)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Specs on bikes... 
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:11:00 EST
Organization: Not an Organization


I've decided to try the two wheel world on pavement.  And as this is winter
in Michigan I figure it's a good time to start looking (and saving).  I
know everyone recommends getting a little beater bike as a first but I
really can't afford to be switching bikes so I've decided to get a
respectable used bike which will hopefully serve my needs for a while.
I've raced motocross for several years so I'm not a complete idiot when it
comes to a bike.  I do plan to take the MSF course as soon as the snow
melts.  Luckily it's conveinently offered at a couple of community colleges
within a hop skip and a jump of me. 

So what I'm looking for is some specs on some bikes.  Basic stats such as
engine configuration (such as valves/cyl, etc), bhp rating, expected 
dependibility, any known quirks, etc.  Also if the bike is no longer being
produced the availability of parts and maintainence.  Basically any
information about the bike you could give me would be appreciated.
Especially what a good asking price would be assuming it's in excellent
condition with low mileage (I can use this as a base and adjust for the
bikes condition).  

'84-'87 500 Interceptor        It's a nice bike but what really draws me 
                               to it is the fact that I can pick up a nice
                               used one for <$1500.00

'86 Yamaha FZX 700             I fell in love with this bike when I saw it.
                               I'm not big into being a plastic jockey, and
                               this bike to me is the epidimy of a naked
                               bike that still looks sporty as hell.  The
                               two bikes of this make I've seen for sale
                               have been between $2500.00 and $2900.00.  A
                               bit more expensive.  

Yamaha Seca II                 Might be hard to find a used one yet.

Suzuki GS500E                  Not sure if I'd like a twin.  Is this bike
                               shaft driven?

Kawasaki EX500                 Also a twin?  Since this is a japanese bike
                               am I correct in assuming even though it's a
                               twin it still has a very square bore (bore
                               larger than stroke) and likes to rev? 

Thanks in advance...
--

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjb@dtc.hp.com (Jim Brewer)
Subject: Re: 2-Stroke Question: Low-End Pickup
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:18:41 GMT
Organization: HP Design Technology Center, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1992Dec14.101148.25158@galadriel.bt.co.uk> ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola) writes:
>I think it may be the pilot jet is blocked and will strip the carb
>(again) tonight.

  That'd be my first guess.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos
From: johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns)
Subject: Durability
Originator: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu
Keywords: why
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 19:40:50 GMT

Why are bikes and cars so incredibly fragile?                                   
                                                                                
I mean, we would like to think that if we could get our bike or car, any        
bike or any car, to say, 100,000 miles, without major problems we are           
having a near mystical experience in reliability.  Bullshit.  At an             
average of 50 mph, 100,000 miles is only 2000 hours of operation.               
That's nothing compared to the reliability of many mechanical systems.          
                                                                                
So what is it with bikes and cars that makes them so fragile.                   
                                                                                
What's even scarier is how many bikes/cars can not even get to 50,000           
miles reliably.                                                                 
                                                                                
Just a thought.                                                                 
                                                                                
Ride Free,                                                                      
                                                                                
Bill                                                                            
___________________________________________________________________             
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC  KotV KotRR                                
DoD #00314  AMA #580924   Squid Index 3.0    WMTC #0002  KotD #0001             
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 and a Volvo.  What more could anyone ask?             
                                                                                
When you're half way there, you stop disbelieving in there.                     
                                                                                
                                             Hugh Prather
From: bobby@dc.dk (Bobby Billingsley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: new biker story : Katy meets a Volvo
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:06:33 GMT
Organization: Datacentralen A/S


First of all: My deepest and most heartfelt sympathy to poor Kathy.

Now, the "story":
When I aquired my trusty steed, about 2 years ago, I was a little puzzled
by one of my friends, who insisted that *they* were out to get him. Upon
inquiry it turned out that he meant *everybody else* on the roads! I
smiled at him and suggested that maybe he was a little paraniod, or was
just pulling my leg, but he insisted that this was the case.

Now, after having ridden for nigh o 2 years, I'm inclined to agreeing
with him; they really are out to get me! After all, this is the only
(pseudo)rational explanation for all those silly/idiotic/annoying
maneuvers I've experienced from other motorists/pushbikes/pedestrians/whatever.

I now fully beleive that *they* are out to get me, and don't consider this
at all paranoid, simply a fact of RealLife(tm) (which I beleive MC-riding
to be). This has much alleviated my frustration and anger on the road, and
given room for much more enjoyment and general sense of well-being.

I would advise poor Kathy to consider this opinion and possibly adopt/adapt
it to her own use.
-- 
:   Bobby Billingsley                   : Remember to love while you dare to   :
:   Datacentralen, Denmark              : remember to live while you do so     :
:   Phone: +45 4371-8122 Ext. 3337      :........................-.Piet.Hein...:
:   E-mail: bobby@dc.dk                 : DoD# 80884 : Ride=Yamaha XJ600, 1986 :
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: infant crawlers banned (was:Helmets)
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:11:58 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: sua
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

ward@cs.uiuc.edu (Christ Ward) writes:


>I caught part of a scary thing on the News last night.
>Turns out that Cannada has banned infant crawlers and the
>U.S. may do the same.  Why? Because X number (I can't remember
>28,000 mabey 2,800? anybody else see this spot) of babies are
>hurt (burned, braindamaged...) every year in this country.
>So the AMA (that's the medical one) is trying to get them banned.
>Even though in all cases it was due to parental neglect.
>
>I would have thought they would have started out with a Helmet
>law for infant crawlers.  I can see the balck market waiting in
>the wings now.  "Hey, babe..you with the tiwns, I can set you up
>with some tasty infant crawlers...just $200 for both!".  Man how
>long do you think it'll take the AMA to try the same thing with
>motorcycles. Because X number of die every year...
>
>Oh well, stock up on those infant crawlers and mabey you can make 
>the bucks for that moto you always wanted...do it now while you
>still can.

An aside about infant crawlers.  It turns out that they actually
retard a babie's learning to walk.  I forget the figure, but
it was nothing *enormous* (a couple of months?).

Guy on the radio said it best the other day.  Six months old
babies are designed to stay where you put them, they are not
designed to be mobile.

Like helmets, a personal choice, but I wouldn't use a walker.
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
                              DoD # 0698
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:42170 misc.forsale:33739
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,misc.forsale
Subject: Re: Radar Gun For Sale
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:29:25 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: swrinde.nde.swri.edu

In article <168C0116FA.C599143@mizzou1.missouri.edu> C599143@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Matthew Q Keeler de la Mancha) writes:
>In article <1gr42uINNomt@swrinde.nde.swri.edu>
>kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
> 
>>
>>(DoF #)  : "Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want"
> 
>You have _got_ to be one of those slugs who gets in the left lane of a two-
>lane highway and goes the same speed as the car to your right for 20 miles
>in front of me...
>:)

Nope :^), I'm one of the few drivers around here who TRY to get out of the
way of speeding vehicles. It's just that there are lots of cage squids
nowadays absolutely FLYING down I35 (over 100mph) in extremely heavy
traffic.  I've been almost hit several times now by these guys. I finally
quit riding down I35 and now go up 281.

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
(DoF #)  : DoF Motto: Just Say "I Forgot".
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Locking rear (was Re: First ride in rain...)
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:31:10 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Dec17.165226.11751@aber.ac.uk>, azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:
> Anyone else hit the rear machine-gun fashion as a form of ersatz ABS? 
> Useful on slimy corners. Braking effect, but no weave from the tail.
> Can never cooordinate doing the front simultaneously tho!

I dunno; that sounds like a good way to lock-up the rear wheel... I had to ride
my bike to work in a rainy slush this morning. I find it's better to just
gently squeeze the brake on, and lighten up if it starts to give way.

Bruce
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:06:05 GMT

In article <1gt6phINNljo@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>
>> >>>|> Everything is for sale. It just depends on the offer.
>> >>>so how much for the bra? my first offer is $1
>> >>
>> >>Next bid is $2
>> >>Couldn't resist.
>> >
>> >You guys obviously have not a clue of what a good bra goes for these days......
>> 
>> Nobody has inquired about condition yet.
>
>Yeah!! Is it a front loader? back loader? strapless? what percentage
>is lace? color? make? model? type material? is it 'sheer'? see through?

I think we need to see the merchandise first.  How about scanning a picture
of it?  While under load of course ;-)

-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bike fires
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:23:43 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


Just to REALLY worry folks, many modern o-rings, fuel lines, gaskets etc are
made out of flouroelastomer. When your bike catches fire, this can decompose
into hydrofluoric acid.

For those of you unfamiliar with this, it is about the most masochist-freindly
stuff you can think of. A molecule chooses one of your molecules, kicks hell
out of it, then gets bored and wanders off to find another. So it doesnt 
get used up quickly like most acids. The upshot of this is that, if you get 
it on your finger and you a> know what it is, b> get to hospital quickly, 
then they just amputate your finger. Wait a bit longer, and your hand has to 
go.........
They risk is small, but the consequences are horrendous. If your bike does
decide to catch fire, DONT MESS ABOUT WITH THE RUBBER BITS!! (Particularly if
they are at all oily, wet or stick looking). Dont mess with
burnt out wrecks, and also be aware of the risks when getting stuff from
scrapyards.

Info courtesy of 'You and Yours", Radio 4, 15th Dec.

Share and enjoy
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