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From: stuart@natinst.com (Don Stuart)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Legendary Abs
Date: 10 Nov 1992 18:19:24 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: phoenix.natinst.com

In article <BxD9Go.KE1@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> jjlawren@garfield.uwaterloo.ca writes:
>
>This may seem like a dumb question, but here goes...If the Legendary Abs routine
>is SOOO successful and effective then why isn't it common knowledge?  If you

Human response to training is mostly in the domain of science, but
human knowledge of the facts is incomplete and often confused by loud
voices.  Common knowledge in this area is often neither common nor
true. 

I have used their system for a few months now.  No miracles, but it
seems to be an improvement on what I tried before.  I am still using
it.  I think it is worth the money.

>The other thing is, this company advertises its Rotator Cuff Solution.  Anybody
>done this one?  Mine are giving me a bit of grief and I want to stop it asap.

I had a rotator cuff problem early this year.  For a while I couldn't
raise my arm above my head without pain.  Extensive physical therapy
helped a little, but it didn't really heal until I started their
program.  It then improved dramatically.  This is hardly a convincing
controlled experiment, but I am very happy.

Disclaimer: I am not a body builder.  I am a 40 year old, 155 pound
soccer player who does some strength training.  Your milage will
almost certainly vary.
					Don
From: mcmurtrey@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Help, I jump and I can't get up
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:33:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: iscsvax.1992Nov9.173326.8563
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Hi gang,

        I've been in the martial arts for years now but for some reason I have
never managed to get a decent jump kick down pat.  

        As much as I can tell it's not due to technic but to the fact that I
just can't seem to get off the floor.  Any ideas on how to get more hieght?

        Oh, yeah my straight jumps are ok its the spin jumps that are out of
wack....

                                                        diana
From: amelito@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Amelito Enriquez)
Subject: Re: Legendary Abs
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:13:28 GMT

In article <BxD9Go.KE1@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> jjlawren@garfield.uwaterloo.ca writes:
>
>This may seem like a dumb question, but here goes...If the Legendary Abs routine
>is SOOO successful and effective then why isn't it common knowledge?  If you
>purchase the document are you supposed to be sworn to secrecy?  :-)
>
>Anyway, people that have used the program - how is it different that my normal
>routine of crunches of various flavours?  I am considering sending for this
>book, but I am unsure how it is different from what I do right now...
>
>The other thing is, this company advertises its Rotator Cuff Solution.  Anybody
>done this one?  Mine are giving me a bit of grief and I want to stop it asap.
>
>thanks
>Jay

Jay,
	I just got a copy of Legendary Abs II last Saturday and I tried it last
night.  To my surprise, it only took a few minutes to do it.  I am used to 
doing hundreds and hundres of sit-ups, crunches and leg raises, and although
I am pretty happy with the results I have been getting, my old routine just
takes too much time to do.  I am going to stick with Legendary Abs for a few
months; there's a lot of information in it that makes sense.  I would be very
happy if it gives me results close to what I've been getting from my old 
routine.
	There is this guy at my gym with awesome abs, and from what I can
remember (I don't see him there anymore), he was doing exercises that were
taken from the book.  I have seen a lot of people at my gym doing these
exercises, I was just too skeptical.  I thought that as long as I am getting
results, I should not change my routine.  However, I am just getting really 
tired that I am willing to take a risk and see if a few minutes of Legendary
Abs can replace my grueling hundreds and hundreds of crunches and leg raises.
I suggest that you try it and see if it works for you.
thanks,
amelito
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: u9227164@cc.uow.edu.au (Neil P Dillon)
Subject: How do I improve my back muscles?
Summary: How do I improve my back muscles?
Keywords: back muscles
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 12:02:24 GMT


If anyone has a program for developing back muscles I would be most
appreciative if they would send it to me.  I really need to tone-up
my back.  Thanks in advance!!

Neil P. Dillon
u9227164@cc.uow.edu.au
From: glex@nitro.cray.com (Jeff Gleixner)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Legendary Abs 'demystified'
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:42:13 GMT
Reply-To: glex@nitro.cray.com (Jeff Gleixner)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Originator: glex@nitro


In article <1992Nov10.134041.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, mcyze@uwovax.uwo.ca writes:
|> >Nope.  The hanging is usually done by 2 parallel pads that allow your 
|> >elbows/arms to support your weight.  They can also be done by hanging from 
|> >a horizontal bar, your hands/arms get pretty tired supporting your weight 
|> >this way.  A parallel dip apparatus would also work.
|> 
|> No, hanging x raises are always done 'hanging' from a bar (eg. chin-up bar).
|> True enough, your hands do get tired, but I've found wraps help out a lot.
|> You (glex@nitro) describe Roman chair leg raises - not nearly as 
|> effective as the 'hanging' variety.  Roman chair workouts tend to 
Where did I do that?  There exists a hanging leg raise device where your
weight is supported by your arms which are bent at a 90-degree angle.  I
do know the difference between Roman chair raises and hanging leg raises and
no where did I mention anything remotely similar. TYVM
-- 
glex@nitro.cray.com  === "Difficult tasks are never easy..."
From: jeffs@nmdoc1.sr.hp.com (Jeff Silva)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:11:11 GMT
Subject: Re: 'Roids and Vanadyl Sulfate (was Re: Inosiene vs Vanadyl Sulfate)
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness

In misc.fitness, hhll@stein.u.washington.edu (Steven Hodas) writes:

> Is Vanadyl Sulfate available in the usual stores, or do you need to get it
> by mail order? I haven't seen it around.


> Steven


I checked at about 5 or 6 health food stores in my area and found
it at one.


Jeff
From: rll@doc.ic.ac.uk (Rafal Lukasz Lukawiecki)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Steroids:  The Real Story
Date: 5 Nov 1992 11:36:18 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak26.doc.ic.ac.uk


Sorry, you say:

In article <16481@umd5.umd.edu>, silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
|> I have posted it a couple of times.

I have never got it.  Could you re-post it, please?

Ta,
Raf
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: cecchinr@gehrig.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini)
Subject: Re: Protien consumption
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:02:45 GMT

In article <1delm7INNqtu@agate.berkeley.edu> stromb@skippy.berkeley.edu (Eric Stromberg) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.182746.16556@megatek.com> max@megatek.com (Max Elliot) writes:
>>> Use your urine as an indicator.  If it's clear or light yellow much of the time, 
>>> then you are getting enough complex carbohydrates.  If it's usually dark yellow, you 
>>> are either eating too much protien or not getting enough carbs.
>
>>> Rod
>>> freier@mail.physics.utah.edu
>
>>  Just wanted to add that urine color is also directly affected by your
>>  hydration level. In fact, I would not be surprised if this was the 
>>  more significant factor. If your urine is dark yellow, or low volume
>>  or both, rehydrate!
>>-Max
>
>
>Uh...I guess ya'll don't take B-vitamins too often.
>
>So as not to get those who do all worked up about too much protien or
>not enough water, I might add that moderate to high doses of B-vits.
>do often cause dark yellow urine.
                ^^^^^^^^^^^
... I always thought of it as more of a fluorescent yellow, myself!

Ron


Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho)
Subject: Ironing out Lethargy?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:08:21 GMT


  A question on vitamins...
  I have been consistently having trouble getting my lazy butt out of bed.
I've slept through classes several times, and if left alone will sleep 
until 2 p.m. despite what time I went to bed the night before.  Once I do
get up I'm fine--I don't feel particularly tired...but first I have to
get up! I usually get this buzzing feeling in my head which discourages me
from enduring those first few minutes of arising.  I can stay up for a long
time, but once I hit the hay it's hibernation time.
  Somebody mentioned low blood pressure or iron deficiency.  Would iron
supplements do any good? (Particularly around PMS time--that's when I
really zonk out). What foods would help?
                                          --ac

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: hilary@netwise.com (Hilary Lane)
Subject: Need Info on Wellness Programs in Boulder County
Organization: Netwise Inc.  Boulder, CO
Distribution: co
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:28:39 GMT

I'm doing an article for a local publication on wellness programs. If you
can supply information, I'd really appreciate it.

Does anyone work for a company that provides wellness programs (besides
an inhouse gym) or preventative programs? Or do your companies put out
newsletters with health tips included? What does your company do to let
you know if you don't seem healthy? Do you have mandated yearly physicals?
I suppose wellness programs are provided mainly to keep down insurance costs,
so that's the angle I'm looking for.

Thanks for any info. If you or your company is interested in being
interviewed, please email me at the address below.
-- 
Hilary Lane
Netwise, Inc., Boulder, Colorado
hilary@netwise.com
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: Chromium: picolinate vs GTF
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:59:19 GMT

In <22340003@hpcss01.cup.hp.com> jat@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Joseph Talmadge) writes:
>I've read the thread on chromium picolinate with interest.  I have a 
>really hard time putting on weight and keeping it on, so I use a
>weight-gain powder.  The powder I use has "Chromium (GTF)" as an
>ingredient, in the same dose as chromium picolinate is recommended.
>
>Am I getting chromium picoliate, or something different?

You are getting something different, but I don't believe it is known 
which is better.  These supplements are intended to provide you with 
chromium.  The problem is that some compounds that contain chromium
are better at making the chromium available to you than others (in other
words, the chromium in some suppliements is mostly excreted rather than
used). 

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: hwc@sei.cmu.edu (Howard Chien)
Subject: Re: Legendary Abs
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Distribution: misc
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:46:45 GMT


Tone Winfield, Steve Russell, and Phil Earnhardt each ask:
   >	Floating around the net somewhere is a copy of the literature for
   >Legendary Abs.  Can someone email me a copy of this document?


Amitabh Agrawal responds:

|> What is floating around is the full text of the booklet Legendary Abs.  This
|> is a copyrighted text by Health for Life; it goes beyond the bounds of what 
|> is appropriate under US copyright law to distribute this document freely.  
|> If you're interested in reading it, I recommend that you:
|> 
|>    1. See if your local library has it or can get it on inter-library loan.
|>    2. Order a copy of it from Health for Life (800) 874-5339.
|> 
|>  HFL is now selling an updated version, Legendary Abs II. Besides avoiding
|>  legal issues, you'll also have the benefit of HFL's drawings. Good form is
|>  crucial to benefit from these exercises; drawings convey something that 
|>  words often do not.
|> 
|> Also this is the best 15 bucks that you will ever spend...
|> 
|> Amitabh 


Oorah!

It's good to see someone out there who still has the sense of what is right
and wrong.  Often, because of the openess of electronic systems, I think that
people forget about copyright laws.

Regarding the Health For Life programs, I use them and feel that they are an
intelligent and scientific way to train.  They offer significant discounts to
people who wish to purchase more than three programs at one time.  This is
definitely the most worthwhile small investment in fitness literature I have 
made.  Besides, the words are nearly useless without the diagrams as traing
aids.


Howie.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: tino@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (allen.j.tino)
Subject: Re: Legendary Abs ???
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:38:34 GMT

From article <1992Nov10.091346.25670@csc.ti.com>, by a908301@server1.tiuk.ti.com:
> I'm new to this newsgroup but have been reading the articles
> on the "Legendary Abs" with interest. Can anyone please tell
> who its by and where I can get a copy.
> 
> Much appreciated...
> 
> ---
> Andy Hudson (a908301@server1.tiuk.ti.com)

Health For Life  1-800-874-5339.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mvm@caesun6.epg.harris.com (Matt Mahoney)
Subject: Re: karate
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:50:34 GMT
Reply-To: mvm@epg.harris.com (Matt Mahoney)
Organization: Engineering Productivity Group, Harris Corp., Melbourne, FL

srmcinto@eos.ncsu.edu (SEAN R MCINTOSH) writes:

>	Hi!  I am going to start taking some Karate classes in the near future 
>and I would like some advice.  What do I need to do in order to prepare for
>these classes.  I am mainly interested in the physical training area.

I took Karate (Tae Kwon Do) many years ago and found it improved my
physical fitness, coordination, and self confidence.  A typical workout
consists of stretching, practice blocking, kicking and punching, katas 
(choreographed forms) and sparring.  While sparring, we wear padding 
on our hands and feet (and head if you wish).  We use the same kicks
and punches as in practice, but we "pull" our punches rather than hit 
with full force.

You don't need any special training before starting Karate.  You should
get all you need in the classes.  But I think general physical fitness
(strength, endurance, flexibility) helps as it would in any sport.

--------------------------------        _\/_
Matt Mahoney, mvm@epg.harris.com       |(TV)|  Drug of the Nation
#include <disclaimer.h>                |____|
From: cdawkins@axion.bt.co.uk (Abd Al-Karim Dawkins)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re Tropicana Stuff
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:50:34 GMT
Reply-To: cdawkins@axion.bt.co.uk (Abd Al-Karim Dawkins)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


I would like to know peoples opinion of the World Tropicana Suppliments.
They seem to be okay, but you never know. 

For example, their Metabolic Optimizer, doesn't seem to do anything for me.

Anyway What did the Natural Suppliment Review say on Tropicana, Twin Lab (possibly too expensive), Cybergenics (again too expensive), and Supreme suppliments. Especially these Weight Gain powders, which when I read the label, never really seem to be any good....

However I am also interested in their Carb Products, and Protein Powders

Thanx in advance......

Abd Al-Karim

p'ch'zarni'chiwkov:  the nasty little sound of a sword being unsheathed right
behind one at just the point when one thought one had disposed of one's enemies.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: a908301@server1.tiuk.ti.com
Subject: Legendary Abs ???
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:13:46 GMT

I'm new to this newsgroup but have been reading the articles
on the "Legendary Abs" with interest. Can anyone please tell
who its by and where I can get a copy.

Much appreciated...

---
Andy Hudson (a908301@server1.tiuk.ti.com)

    - NE TE CONFUNDANT ILLEGITIMI ! -
From: James.Porter@mechanic.Fidonet.org (James Porter)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Catalog of hard-to-find
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 16:36:20 PDT
Organization: Mechanic: The Usenet<->Fidonet Gateway oF St. Pete Florida

J-D>Catalog of hard-to-find PC enhancements

J-D>"The Catalog of Personal Computing Tools for Engineers and Scien-
J-D>tists" lists hardware cards and application software packages for
J-D>PC/XT/AT/PS/2 class machines.  Focus is on engineering and scien-
J-D>tific applications of PCs, such as data acquisition/control,
J-D>design automation, and data analysis and presentation.

J-D>If you would like a free copy, reply with your (U. S. Postal)
J-D>mailing address.

James Porter
Porter Consulting Services
6240 17th Avenue North
St Petersburg, FL 33710-4808
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From: ck345@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wira Putra)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Help ... Seattle, Washington
Date: 5 Nov 1992 22:16:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


HI ....
       Is there any one know about Internet for public in 
       Seattle, Washington ... ?

Please e-mail me at ck345@cleveland.freenet.edu
Thank you very much for your help ....
My friend in Seattle wants to know about it ....
Thank's once again ....
--
From: ha1@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: test 44
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:11:38 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

this is a test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: adam@microware.com (Adam Goldberg)
Subject: Re: The Correct Way To Write C if-Statements
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:24:21 GMT

mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu ("[*] Angel of Sickness") writes:

>In article <1992Nov7.165603.14863@texhrc.uucp> njr@texhrc.uucp (Nick J. Rees) writes:
>>   How about when do you use 'if ... else' and when do you use
>>   'switch'? 

>That's easy.  You use `switch' whenever possible, and never otherwise.

Another rule:

A solution should be as simple as possible -- but no simpler.
-- 
Adam G.
adamg@microware.com, or ...!uunet!mcrware!adamg
The above is not to be construed in any way as the official or unofficial
statements of Microware, or any Microware employees.
From: al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Polewka)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Re: Best Anagrams for Candidates
Date: 7 Nov 1992 07:01:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Polewka)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, shoaf@helix.nih.gov (Susan E. Shoaf) says:

>There was an article in the Washington Post weeks ago on anagrams
>for the candidates.
>
>For H. Ross Perot the anagram of choice was "Short Poser".
 
............................................."Sports Hero!"


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Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Who knows E-mail somebody in Augsburg, Western part of Germany?
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 15:10:58 +0200
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Scientific-Technical Enterprise "Volyn TECOM/+"
Reply-To: oleh@volyn.rovno.ua

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Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: glen@chicago (Glen Williams)
Subject: San Francisco Room Available nov-feb
Organization: Gain Technology, Palo Alto, CA.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:30:51 GMT

San Francisco room available nov - feb (short-term or part-time renter
perferred).  Share beautiful flat w/working female. Can provide
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From: tlglenn@cs.arizona.edu (Ted L. Glenn)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Goofy and Pluto
Summary: Walt Disney stuff
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:17:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


     Recently I came across a rather interesting question:
Goofy and Pluto are both dogs. Why does Goofy wear clothes and speak
while Pluto is naked and left chained in the backyard?
--
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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Re: Information Providers Seek Monopolies
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:09:43 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Nov6.115735.2990@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> cschmidt@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Christopher Schmidt) writes:
> [editorial by Tom Dworetzky, August 1992 issue of Omni]
>I find out that the disappearance and destruction of the
>country's trolley systems was the result not of free-market
>forces and consumer preference, but of a callous,
>monopolistic deal to crush the trolleys nationwide.

This point of view has often been stated, and in my opinion remains highly
arguable.  It is well documented that interests in the automobile, rubber,
and oil industries bought urban trolley lines and converted them to use buses.  It is a lot less clear that trolley lines would have remained in business
if they had been protected from takeovers, and that the public would have
preferred that they remain in business.  In any case people didn't wind up
with a corporate monopoly situation; people are free to buy cars from a
variety of vendors, or to take public transit (which these days is usually
a government monopoly), or to take taxicabs (which these days are in many
places a government-controlled monopoly through government control of
taxi licenses/permits) or to rent cars from several vendors.

While I don't doubt there are greedy would-be monopolists in the information
business I do doubt the applicability of the trolley analogy.  We have
long had the "natural monopoly" argument for TV cable and telephone, on
the idea that we want only one set of pole lines and cables cluttering our
street scenes.  When you see photos of 1890s New York with those 90-foot
telephone poles carrying 65 crossarms each you can understand why people
didn't want to have more than one telephone company.  But today we have
telephone by wire, and cellular phone and CB and business radio where
phones don't go; and we have TV cable, satellite, broadcast radio, and
subcarriers on broadcast radio, and paging systems for one-way communication.
(and some talk of two-way TV cable, but it's not likely to become all
that important).

Gosh, here I am a tax-and-spend liberal talking like a libertarian...
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Ya can argue all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"
From: lv0j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lynn M. Daly)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: IMPROVE YOUR LOVE LIFE
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:43:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IeyI4ES00iV1M1pllC
Organization: Counseling & Student Development Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



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