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From: hhtne@usho52.hou281.chevron.com (H.T.Nettles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: IDE HD and MFM (XT) HD in the same AT ?
Date: 24 Aug 92 04:11:44 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Aug21.235526.18472@news.clarkson.edu> faruque@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Abdullah Faruque,334CH,3752,2654247) writes:
>From article <jmh.714382322@tko.vtt.fi>, by jmh@tko.vtt.fi (Michael Hasemann):
>> Hi Netters,
>> I would like to use an IDE HD and a XT HD in the same AT.
>> 
>> Is that possible ?
>> Any hints appreciated.
>> 
>> Regards Michael
>
>Yes, it is possible to run both IDE and MFM/RLL drives together.
>Currently I am using a 80 meg IDE (Maxtor 7080A) and a 65 meg RLL
>(Seagate ST277R-1) drive together in a 386 machine. I have seen this
>question several times, so I compiled the following summary about this
>matter. There are three ways it can be done:
>
>1. You need the right MFM/RLL controller card which can be set at the
>secondary hard drive port address with the onboard BIOS enable. Also
>the onboard BIOS must support hard drive at the secondary port
>address. The only 16-bit MFM/RLL card (as far as I found) that
>fulfills those requirements is the Seagate ST21/22M (MFM model) or
>ST21/22R (RLL model). Although most other RLL cards (I have tried
>
 ... stuff deleted ....
>2. The second method is to use an IDE host adaptor card that can
>co-exist with other MFM/RLL controllers. I have seen these kind of
>product advertised in Computer shopper, they are expensive too. I
>never used one, so I can not tell much about it. If somebody has any
>experience, then I would like to hear about it.
>
>3. The third method is to use a 8-bit XT type MFM/RLL controller card.
>Some of these type of cards (not all of them) can be configured as
>secondary controller and can co-exist with other types of primary
>controller cards.  I will not recommend this method, because you will
>get poor performance with an 8-bit card in an AT type machine.
>
>I would like to here if there is any other possible ways of doing this.
>
I recently downloaded 3drvs110.zip from a local bulletin board.
This is a MS-DOS device driver which will allow you to add an
IDE controller behind an existing MFM/RLL controller on a 286
or 386 system.  Their example on how to do this uses a Seagate
ST-07 IDE controller.  I have not (as yet) tried this product,
but their address is:

     PC+ Company
     9606 N.E. 4th Street
     Midwest City, OK. 73130

Their product is shareware, and they charge $20 to register
the 3 drive version.  The 4 drive version is not shareware,
and costs $30.

I am in no way associated with this company or their products
(standard disclaimer).


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From: andrew@postmod.NASHUA.NH.US (andrew richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: stealth vram config
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:11:20 EDT
Reply-To: andrew@postmod.nashua.nh.us
Distribution: world
Organization: fredd's famous computers
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hi...

	i'm using a diamond stealth vram card that i just bought, and a
ttx cms-3436 multiscan monitor.  i'm not sure how to configure the dip
switches for this monitor, since it's not listed in the manual or the
smode.com list.  i know the frequencies it scans at, but not sure of the
polarities or sync values.  is someone else using this combination?

	is there a diamond bbs for tech support?

andrew

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: Help! AMI bios won't recongize my RLL drive!
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 23:26:40 GMT


Rll's are type one on AMI and most other BIOSes, the drive tables, are mainly for
MFM, and IDE (as user defined) try type 1.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: Power supply query
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:54:54 GMT


Unless you are going to chain 7 scsi full height drive, really the need isn't
there, 220 is more that enough for most things (2drive, 2floopy, memory, and
slots) really devices are getting smaller and smaller, and using less and less
wattage to power then, then only thing you need to worry about is, power up
sequence during that phase is when your hd and such will use twice as much power
getting up to speed as in their operation...hope this helps...
Stephen
From: bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Gateway CS1024NI = (!=) Mag Monitor
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:10:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: gibdo.1992Aug31.205316.20730
Organization: University of Washington

I (bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu) wrote:
|  Tri-Star also says it OEM's its monitors from Mag.  Has anyone actually
|  compared a genuine Mag monitor to either the Gateway or Tri-Star monitors?
|
|  My general impression has been that Mag monitors (15f,17f) have gotten
|  pretty good ratings while the Gateway monitors are regarded as mediocre
|  at best.  I would be surprised if they were the same monitors.

pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro) writes:
| We have both the Gateway and Tri-Star monitors here in our lab.  They
| are totally different.  The Tri-Star monitor has a set of digital
| front panel controls, while the CS1024NI uses analog controls mounted
| in the back.  The Tri-Star monitor, IMHO, has a sharper picture at
| 800x600 and above - it's almost useable at 1024x768, which isn't bad
| for a 14" monitor - whereas the CS1024NI seems a bit fuzzy at the
| higher resolutions.  IMHO, the Tri-Star unit is a much better monitor.
| 
| Unfortunately, neither one has markings that clearly indicate who the
| OEM is.

  I called MAG Innovision (1-800-827-3998) and they confirmed that 
  both Tri-Star and Gateway OEM their monitors.  They said that except
  for the digital controls in the front and the different brand names, 
  all three monitors -- Tri-Star, Gateway and MAG -- were identical in
  every way.  
  ==

  Bob                                       Seattle, Washington
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 17:20:54 EDT
From: <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: 486 external cache
 <1992Aug29.151816.20974@pool.info.sunyit.edu>
 <marrou.715286278@eola.cs.ucf.edu>

   Much discussion about the Zeos cache, Re: price...


   But your upgrade assumes the motherboard has a cache controller and the
Zeos plug-in is for a cache-less board and provides a 128K 2-way associative
cache AND controller.  I'd say it's truely worth $120!  The other $80 could be
written off as single source profit.

  Of course ZEOS intentionally sold the cacheless board thinking that it was
a fair cost-cutter and that the add-on was an easy sale.  But in all fairness,
the cost of a 2-way set associative controller is significant and with it, a
128K cache is roughly equivalent to a 256K direct mapped cache in terms of
hit rate.

   Jeff Andle
From: youngqd@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Dean Youngquist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Ice-cap to tune a 486/33 to 50Mhz speed?
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:17:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: leela.1992Sep4.171721.12521
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <1992Sep2.191750.16003@ichips.intel.com> smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~) writes:
>
>Please do not do this, We at intel have rated that chip at 33 mhz, that means it
>hasn't passed a quality test for 50mhz, and using it at that speed will cause
>errors, and possible damage to the processor, if it were able to go at 50 mhz, we
>would be selling it as one, and making the profit from it..:)

So why do some math co-processors work so well at speeds above their rating?
I have even had them on intensive diagnostics with no problems from most,
except sometimes on the older versions.  I have heard it said that Intel
runs all the chips off the same line and that the faster chips are just
labeled as faster while the slower-rated chips have not been tested at
higher speeds but may be just as good as the faster one if one tests it.

Also, doesn't temperature have a lot to do with the performance of a
silicon juction?  Even though the chips is made by Intel, is it not still
governed by laws of physics the same as other chips?  I have been reading 
a lot of Motorola Data books lately and they often specify a certain 
power level or other parameter and then go on to say: de-rate nn Watts
(or other unit) per degree C.  Doesn't that mean that silicon junctions
perform better a cooler temperatures?

Dean
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: edmondse@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: 10Mhz Math Co in 12 Mhz 286????
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:51:54 GMT

Hello,

I recently purchased a 12 Mhz 286 motherboard and am curious if I can use
my old 20287-10 math coprocessor in this slightly faster mainboard.

BTW, the 286 board is a 12/16 Mhz switchable model, is this going to cause
problems with the math coprocessor.

If anyone has used a similar setup I would be interested in hearing how 
it worked out.

Thanks

Eric



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From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.arch
Subject: Re: Does a 487sx shut down the 486sx??
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:38:04 GMT
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA

In article <1992Aug26.173519.22421@unislc.uucp> larsen@unislc.uucp (Steve Larsen) writes:
>
>Ah, but there is not more work, actually less.  The reason that they
>offer this chip for less is that they don't have to spend the man-hours
>testing the coprocessor. 

Yeah... like maybe 1/10 cent per chip (test vectors are
cheap)

>It is also artificially deflated in price
>because Intel wishes to make it the entry level processor and knock
>AMD and others out of the water with their 386 chips. 

*THAT'S* more like it.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: sct@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen Tenbrink)
Subject: Re: EISA bus spec - how to I get a copy?
Keywords: EISA 
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:12:46 GMT


The EISA bus specification is is not available on any FTP site because it
has a copywright and is sold by BCPR Service, Inc.  Their address is:

1400 L Street N.W.  Suite 700
Washington, DC 20005-3502

Their phone number is 1-201-371-5921.  You subscribe to the EISA
Specification through this company.

If I remember right, we paid $400 for one copy and the right to product
four more.  A single copy with no reproduction rights costs about $100 if
my memory serves


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sct@lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: 11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Daniel T. McVay)
Subject: HELP: How to upgrade a Tandy 1000SX machine
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:18:52 GMT

Does anyone here know how I can possibly upgrade my Tandy 1000SX to
some more modern neccessities? 

It is a 8088-based machine with 640k and two 360k 5.25 drives. And two
modems plugged into the Com port. One is a 1200bps and the other is a
2400bps.

Now, I'm currently seeking a hard drive or a hardcard, or even a 720k
drive in lieu of a 360k drive. 

My question is, how can I upgrade to a 720k or a 1.44 3.5 drive? I've seen
prices for tandy drives at 159.00 and I assume it is because there is some
special hardware required to make it functional on such a old machine,
but what do you guys think?

Also, I'm looking for a MFM or RLL 30mb and up hard drive with a 8-bit
controller. 

Please, somebody, help me out here. I know there's got to be some experts
on the infamous Tandy system and how to upgrade them minotaurs.

Daniel Mcvay	11dmcvay@gallua.gallaudet.edu	11dmcvay@gallux.gallaudet.edu
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From: dina@optigfx.optigfx.com (Dina Kurktchi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: WANTED: info on IBM InfoWindow or similar
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:16:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organization: Optigraphics Corporation, San Diego


There used to be some hardware made be IBM for the PC and PS/2
called the InfoWindow.  The unit was a CGA/EGA color graphics
monitor that doubled as a touch screen.

Does such a thing still exist?  Are there drivers available for
it?  Are there other touch screen vendors with similar technology?

If you have any information that would be useful in this regard,
please email it to me.

Thanks,
Dina.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: wao@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.a.oswald)
Subject: sound blaster noise
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:21:16 GMT

I have a sound blaster (basic) that I use with head phones. There
is a lot of background noise especially when I access the hard drive.
Is there a way to dampen the noise. Thanks in advance

Bill Oswald
wao@aluxs.att.com
billatt@aol.com
From: psb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jr Phillip S Buckland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: program to erase AMI BIOS passwd
Date: 1 Sep 1992 15:00:42 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

u2116318@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>The problem solved, and I wrote a com file
>to do this , if you can still boot from froppy
>then you can use this program to change the 
>checksum of cmos data, so next time when 
>you reboot the machine, the computer
>will say bios checksum error, and then 
>all you previeus setup is gone include (passwd)

	Looks like lots of trouble to go to.  On later releases of AMI
	BIOSes, all you have to do to reset the CMOS is to press and hold
	the INS key when powering up.  The CMOS parameters are then reset
	to their factory defaults.


We read the world wrong		| Phil Buckland
and say that it deceives us.	| psb@eece.ksu.edu
Tagore, from Stray Birds	| psb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tracyb@bnr.ca (Tracy Blomquist)
Subject: Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Pro & Graphics Ultra +
Organization: Bell Northern Research
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:26:23 GMT

Some corrections to my post last night (I went back home and tracked
down the ad).

The ad is in the Sept. 15, 1992 PC Mag (Vol 11, # 15) on page 368. It
is not in Windows magazine (Sorry if your ran out and bought Windows
magazine).

Some info from the ad:

  GRAPHICS ULTRA PRO
 - Fast 25.5 million WINMARK Perf. (on ISA)
 - Accelerated 1280x1024x256 NI @ 74Hz max.
 - Avail in ISA, EISA, and MicroChannel (VL-Bus is *NOT* listed as I
   incorrectly stated last night, but I talked to a tech rep and he
   stated that ATI would support the VL-Bus in future).
 - Of course, a built in mouse port + mouse
 - Priced from $599.00 (SRP)

  GRAPHICS ULTRA +
 - Fast 21.0 million WINMARK perf (on ISA)
 - Accelerated 1024x768x65000
 - 800x600x16million (True Colour)
 - No mention of bus compatibility (perhaps ISA only?)
 - Available in 1Mb or 2Mb versions.
 - Of course, a built in mouse port + mouse
 - Priced from $399.00 (SRP)

ATI tech support stated that the initial cards would be available
in ISA format in Sept.

From looking at the ad, it looks like the Ultra Pro also delivers
1024x768x65000 and 800x600x16million, but I'm checking with ATI
tech support to make sure before I place an order.

ATI has offered upgrades (if you have an ATI card) before.  But 
sometimes the difference was more than what some resellers were 
selling the new cards for.  I don't know if there's an upgrade 
policy this time.

As I stated last night, both cards are still 8514/a register 
compatible which is a plus (in the DOS world) and some other 
systems (e.g., QNX windows) that don't have a lot of driver
support for the "non-standard" video systems.

ATI Technologies
 416-756-0718

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: vera@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU (James S. Vera)
Subject: Mystery board. Please help identify
Organization: Program Analysis and Verification Group, Stanford University
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:09:47 GMT

I've picked up a board that I would appreciate some help in
identifying.  Any pointers would be appreciated.

The board is a full size PC board.  It has a coax connector and a
standard phone connector (RJ-11).  The mounting plat is removable and
the top size of the card has an edge connector which might me a
MicroChannel slot (don't know for sure).

The board was made by DCA.

The board is marked:
   1988 dca
   003581 Rev.A

and the larger chips on it are:

Three HY6264P-10 8836B
One   dca 8823 UF 32762-A
One   dca 8909 EV S9082
      VGT 7811-6084
      DCA INC 1988
      002695 REV 01

Thanks
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From: andrew@postmod.NASHUA.NH.US (andrew richardson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Stealth Incompatability?
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:47:07 EDT
Reply-To: andrew@postmod.nashua.nh.us
Distribution: world
Organization: fredd's famous computers
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel1

	has anyone run across problems with incompatability concerning the
diamond stealth vram cards and drivers and particular 386 boards?  or with
a particular brand of scsi hard disk card?

	i'm using a stealth, future domain 1680, and an intel motherboard,
if you've heard anything, drop me some mail, please.

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From: curtisa@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Curtis Allred)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:41:10 GMT
Subject: Re: Opinions Sought:  Maxtor 7120 IDE drive.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

I've had one in my 286 for 6 months now and it has worked flawlessly.
I am happy enough with it that I am ordering another for my PC at work.

The specs on the 1 page owners manual are:

Avg seek time: 15ms
Formatted capacity: 124.3M

The only way to hit that capacity is if your BIOS supports 936 cyl/16 head
format.  Otherwise you will get somewhat less.  The closest I could get was
~120M.

-Curt

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: dbeeman@dogstar.Colorado.edu (Dave Beeman)
Subject: new S3 windows accelerator cards
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:23:09 GMT

I've heard rumours of a forthcoming new S3 windows accelerator video
chipset which should give 1280 x 1024 non-interlaced resolution and a few
other advantages over the standard S3 video cards.  Can someone tell me
more about cards based on this set?  In particular, how can I recognize one
from the ads, once they are available?  Have you heard of anyone planning
on releasing a VESA local bus video card based on this chip set?

Thanks for any information you can provide,
Dave Beeman - dbeeman@boulder.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: huot@cray.com (Tom Huot)
Subject: Re: Please help with gateway modem!!!!!
Keywords: Frustration, heartburn, high blood pressure, rip-off
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 25 Aug 92 11:37:14 CDT

In article <1992Aug24.215506.23872@nmsu.edu> jsalcido@nmsu.edu (Jason Salcido) writes:
>
>
>I just got my Gateway 2000 modem and have yet to get it to work.  All I get is  
>garbage anytime I connect to anything.  Anyway my real question is should I  
 ^^^^^^^ That's the magic word for Gateway 2000.

>forget the GW2000 modem, get my $200 back, add $70 or so and get a TWINCOM 
>14.4 data/fax modem (external).  I have heard that externals are better than  
>internals.  Anyone know much about this modem?  Opinions for/against this
>are really needed!  Please e-mail at jsalcido@scf.nmsu.edu or post back
>here.  
>
>
>Jason

Good Luck getting your money back from that bunch of losers. That has got to
be the most fouled up company I have ever dealt with in my life. I am now
in the process of trying to get a credit for a modem and ATI card which I 
ordered, and tried to cancel 3 times. The idiots FED EXED them to me anyway.
I did not accept the junk, and they once again said they would credit my 
account. I just got my Master Card bill for $515 from GW2K. I just got
off the phone with the bone heads and they can't seem to figure out what
happened. Well they figured it out enough to charge my card! I'm now
waiting (again) for a call back from the jerks. They have to call Fed Ex
to find out what happened. Can you believe this is a computer company?
They must be using their own computers to keep their records which would
explain it all.
I AM SICK OF ALL THIS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: 9206181w@lux.latrobe.edu.au (KREISEV Marek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Zeos (and others) general flame
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:42:13 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University

Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 13:20:25 +1000
From: 9206181w (KREISEV Marek)
To: comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Hard drives data library

Hi,
Some time ago I read info about program which contain info about all (?) hard disks, now I need such program.  If there is someone who can mail address of ftp to get this utility I would be very thankfull.
	Cheers
		Mark
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: 890491g@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Graves)
Subject: Re: 640X480X256 on a VGA monitor with 512K card ???
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:56:05 GMT


	I would like to thank those who responded to my question.

-- 
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Acadia University, Wolfville, N.S. Canada
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