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From: cosc180f@rosie.uh.edu (92F06810)
Subject: Re: Stand up girls! (WARNING: flames here)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:03:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.180726.18015@cs.brown.edu>, cs123057@cs.brown.edu (Chainsaw) writes...
>In article <1992Sep30.165049.1098@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>, poon@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Ka-Cheong Poon) writes:
>|> In article <80795@ut-emx.uucp> shui@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dreamer) writes:
>|> >Hey Girls,
>|> >
>|> >   It is time for us to say something after reading those stupid and narrowed
>|> >mind guys' junk news.
>|> 
>|> I think that there is going to be a flame war in SCHK!
> 
>Isn't that what you are in here for??    ^_^
> 
>|> [Deleted]
>|> 
>|> >  Guys start building up a right attitude to treat female. Otherwise you 
>|> >will besorry.  
> 
>AND GALS also better start building up a right attitude to treat male, bitching alone
>is NOT gonna get you any where.   Do you know why people consider Chinese (& American)
>wives the worst?  That's because they can't keep their mouths shut!!  If you want things
>changed, DO something about it.
> 
>|> What is the right attitude, do you think?
> 
>Stop bitching and act up!
> 
>|> Take it easy!!!
>|> 
>|> 								Poon.
> 
> 
>								Chainsaw
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wongj@cobb.cs.rpi.edu (Jasper Wong)
Subject: Re: New Topic: Chinese Christians
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:37:05 GMT

In article <Bvx9zw.KB5@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rhc52134@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Richard) writes:
>
>It seems that girls like to go to fellowship, therefore, guys go to fellowship.
>So everyone goes to fellowship.
>
>I don't mind people go to fellowship, but why does it have to be on Friday 
>nights? It is Friday night, when all your troubles are gone, people should go
>out to have fun, instead of talking about God.
>
>Richard

Richard,

     First of all, not all the fellowships meet on Friday night.  A lot
of them do meet on Saturday afternoon or evening.  I believe it depends
on whether it would be more convenient for the members of the fellowship.
As for your statement regarding people should go out to have fun instead
of talking about God, I see it as a matter of point of view.  For the
people who joint the fellowship 'cause of their desire to seek after
God, they certainly would consider spending time on a fellowship meeting
is a joyous thing to do.  It could be different for those who are there
for reasons such as babe-hunt or guy-hunt, however.
     It is a fact that many people do go to fellowship for the sake of
neeting boys/girls.  I have a few friends who would do that.  I personally
do not agree with their action, but nonetheless, God work in a way which
is above what our wisdom can comprehend thus I do wish that they will come
with a right motive eventually.

Jasper
wongj@rpi.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cs123057@cs.brown.edu (Chainsaw)
Subject: Re: ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo
Keywords: dog god
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:49:59 GMT

In article <1ba9uhINNpkn@agate.berkeley.edu>, bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan) writes:
|> I disagree, and here's how it goes:
|> 	God IS all-powerful
|> 	1) God creates the unmovable object.
|> 	2) God can't lift it up, but...

I agree with you up to this point.

|> 	3) God creates the irresistable force.

Which God itself can't resist, i.e. first prove that god is NOT almighty.

|> 	4) Object thus enter an nth dimensional paradox and
|> 		disappears.

Since God can't move it, it the nth dimensional paradox the "swallows" the object,
not the object entering it.

|> 	5) No one can see into an nth-dimensional paradox...

Including the Not-almighty god itself.

|> 	6) What you can't see can't hurt you, and what God
|> 		doesn't see, doesn't exist.

Since God can see it, god IS NOT all-powerful.

|> 	7) Object is gone, thus God IS all-powerful.

...and God flip itself upside down and becomes Dog, and your proof 
is not valid.

|> Now, pray tell, what this have to do with SCHK?

Chinese people like eating doGs hence we are discussing this.
	
|> -- 

Now here is the correct proof.  "God is all-powerful"..........
Since we created God, if we believe that God is almighty, then it
is almight.  If we don't believe that it ever existed or is dead, then
it never existed or is dead, period.

|> ----------------------------------------------------------------
|> Billy H. Chan 	<bhchan@ocf.berkeley.edu>   "Life: a strange new
|> Just Babbling   <bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu>   state of confusion"
|> Disclaimer 1:   I'm actually a really nice person. (sorta) :) ;)

								Chainsaw
From: u1040448@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (C Ma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK Pop Group No.1 gonna be BEYOND !!
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:54:42 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Architecture, UNSW, Australia

In article <1992Oct14.200619.21613@oracle.us.oracle.com> glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
  

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Chibi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Absolutely Chinese)
Subject: Re: HK High School CS syllabus
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:36:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.232438.24636@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:
>anw1@cec2.wustl.edu (Aaron Wong) writes:
>
>[a lot of reasons why BASIC isn't good enough for HK highschool's CS classes
> deleted]
>
>Before we come to a conclusion that BASIC isn't a good enough language
>to use in the classroom, let's trace back to the history of the language.
>
>1) How BASIC was introduced.
>
>BASIC was introduced in the 50-70s, by two professors at a small college.
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
and this small college is Dartmouth College, the one you're attending.. :)

>They believe in making computers more accessible to their students.  
>Therefore, they (along with a group of undergraduates) created BASIC,
>the computer language.  It has a lot of merits. In particular, it
>reduces a lot of things which other languages have to deal with--so that
>the students can spend more time dealing with the problem than programming.

funny thing is the original creators created something called 'True BASIC'
and said that's what BASIC should have been. 

BASIC is popular but unlike Fortran and Cobol, not many useful applications
were created using it. So it makes more sense to trash the whole language.

couple more things:
Is there anyone actually put down BASIC on their resume when they look for
a serious programming job?

Why schools in HK still use BASIC when Pascal is available? Turbo Pascal 3.0
takes up only 35K or so, any IBM PC should be able to run it. Is it because
there is a lack of Pascal teacher?

Is Comal popular in Hongkong? this language is widely used in Europe and works
particularly well with Commodore computers. It combines some of the best 
features of BASIC, Pascal and Logo. Lots of fun to play with and it's no toy
language, it's widely used in industry and business in Europe.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: s907459@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Ka Wo Anthony Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Wang Tsu Hsien (Wong Cho Yin)
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:09:25 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

v050qh6y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT) writes:

>In article <8epDMXm00iUxE8dYse@andrew.cmu.edu>, jt2o+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Teng) writes...
>>All this talk about how her looks are outdated are baloney.
>> 
>given, she is a good-looking actress, but she cant really act.  all she has 
>going for her is her looks and long hair.  what i mean by outdated is that 
>she has too many of the same type of roles, like she always spins her head 
>and her hair flies in her facew.  come on, how many times have you seen 
>this?  it was cool for the first three or four movies, but after about ten 
>of them, it gets boring

It is true that some people doesn't have a long lasting appearance.
As a man, I don't find her pretty,  I even feel bored just by watching her
in a movie.  Perhaps she should consider changing her hair style...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cs123057@cs.brown.edu (Chainsaw)
Subject: Re: Wang Tsu Hsien (Wong Cho Yin)
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:00:28 GMT

In article <8epDMXm00iUxE8dYse@andrew.cmu.edu>, jt2o+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Teng) writes:
|> All this talk about how her looks are outdated are baloney.

This I have to agree.

|> People say that she looked good only in Chinese Ghost Story series. 
|> IMO, no one possesses that kind of rare "seductive yet innocent" look. 
|> No one comes close.

Seductive?  Innocent?  She looks neither "seductive" NOR "innocent" to me.
The reasons are:-
	1) She can't act, so that's why she is not seductive.
	2) She is horny, so she doesn't look innocent.
	3) She didn't look good in the Chinese Ghost Story at all, she
		overacted in the entire movie.

|> Hey, it requires something really special to look like that.  
|> 
|> (I absolutely welcome flames)

HAHAHAHAHAHAH....

|> John
	
							Chainsaw
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cs911364@ariel.yorku.ca (SHING-YAN EDDIE SY LING)
Subject: Re: New Topic: Chinese Christians
Originator: cs911364@a01.ariel.yorku.ca
Keywords: Chinese Christians
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:49:52 GMT


In article <1992Oct9.053026.22190@cc.uow.edu.au>, tcheung@cc.uow.edu.au (teresa cheung) writes:
>> Does anyone want to comment on why some
>> Hong Kong students when they study overseas
>> become Christians and join "Chinese Christian
>> Fellowships"
>> 
>> Comments?


Well, in my point point of view.... there are at least couple of reasons.

1)  When HK students study in oversea.... they feel lonely in their life. (re:        only apply on those who are not living with relative)  Therefore, one of the
    most effective way is to get gathering in the Church.  People from the church
    will always pay ton of patience to listen their life as a Visa Student! 

2)  Some of the student will try to get a GirlFriend or BoyFriend in the Church..
    umm.... no offence here!!!

3)  People from the church can really help Visa Student in many way! 


But one question come up to my mind!!!  Are they having the same aim to go to the church?  ie, can they really follow what the bible says?  Or they are having different aim?  like what I said in point 2?

Eddie Ling
cs911364@ariel.yorku.ca
From: cc697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Oppen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Question about Macao
Date: 15 Oct 1992 08:11:44 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cc697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Oppen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I was talking to my Asian Studies major professor about jobs in the Far
East, and mentioned that if I were working in HK, I'd prefer to live in
Macao and take the ferries across and back every day.  He looked
thoughtful, and allowed that it might be a good idea, since once away from
the casinos Macao is quieter and less frenetic than HK, and rents are
probably lower.

Could anybody out there help me out?  I'd like to know whether a US citizen
working in HK could get permission to live in Macao, and also anything
about available living quarters would be nice.

Xie-xie!
-- 
We can fire politicians precisely because we can fire guns.  In the Second
Amendment, the word "people" means the same thing that it does in all the
other amendments.  We, the People of the United States, ARE the militia. 
Check the US Code on this if you don't believe me.
From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: MADLY IN LOVE WITH HER!!!!
Date: 16 Oct 1992 05:05:49 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct15.222924.25082@genrad.com> vil@genrad.com (Vaiioc Isana Lei) writes:
>Here are a couple questions for you guys out there.
>	If you are interested in a girl (i.e. you want to go out with her or
>even want her to be your girlfriend), but she's not interested.
>
>1.  What would you expect her to do? I mean, what can we girls/women do so
>    that we don't get labeled as 'insensitive', 'ice-cold', 'doesn't worth
>    anyone's love', ..., and so that you guys don't feel so hurt or so bad.
>
Hi, Isana, to answer your question:
Me personally, I wouldn't mind if she told me right out that she's not
interested in me in that way, rather than having to guess at what she
means by "sorry, I'm too busy," or other  'no's everytime you try to
ask her out.  I've been through some very bad experiences, and I think
that has toughen me up some for something that might seem 'insensitive',
but at least it's the truth.  Better truth than a half-lie/half-truth.
Please, no guessing games (I hate guessing...I suck at it bigtime)
>2.  What can we do if we want to maintain friendship with you after refusing
>    your love? Believe me, some of us really don't want to break established
>    friendship especially if this surprise comes from an old friend.
Never been through this yet (luckily or unluckily) but I guess it's as much
the guy's call as it is the lady's.  I know some guys can be 'chi ching'
(hmmm...translated losely as deeply deeply in love) and can do nothing else,
so that probably unconsciously, they're striving for more and don't even
realize it in their actions, thinking all the time "I just want to be 
friends or friendly, but I guess she doesn't" and not realizing that he is
being pushy.  Does that sorta clear things up a little?  I'm not sure, but
that's my attempt.
Anyway, putting this on a more HongKong perspective (this _is_ an HK group)
What do HK people think about this (or recent HK immi's)...I've been here
so long I'm afraid I'm more 'ghost' than 'yun'.
-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------
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Just Babbling   <bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu>   state of confusion"
Disclaimer 1:   I'm actually a really nice person. (sorta) :) ;)
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From: kwee@oracle.uucp (Karl Wee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Future of China........
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:12:03 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1aguhkINNfnm@agate.berkeley.edu> vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.005859.17777@oracle.us.oracle.com> kwee@oracle.uucp (Karl Wee) writes:
>>at least during the earlier stages.  China is such a huge country that no
>>country on earth can fully absorb her exports without damage to their domestic
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>      I doubt about it !!!
>      I agree that China export a lot of stuff. However, we should take
>      into account that many countries such as the US give favor status
>      to her. If there is no MFN, less people will invest in Southern China
>      and the amount of export will decrease. The MFN actually has stimualted
>      the light industry in China. Otherwise, it might have remained as
>      a totally agricutural country.
>
>Vincent Chan
>
>   
>
>   

China is only exporting from several economic zones now.  What happens when the
entire China is exporting?  I don't know why you mention MFN.  It seems
irrelevant to what we're discussing, which is not whether other countries
should continue trading with China from either their or our perspective, but
objectively what will happen if China follows the road of the 4 Tigers and
Japan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: jfong@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (John Fong)
Subject: Re: HK comics: Tin Ha
Keywords: Tin Ha, comic, wind, cloud 
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 07:11:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.181905.29862@lsil.com> stephen@lsil.com writes:

>It seems that Ma Wing Shing's "Wind, Cloud" story
>in Tin Ha is going to end in about 2-3 issues, with
>wind & cloud fighting each other at this point.
>
>Anyone want to speculate on the ending?

Have you read the "Wind, Cloud" novel?  Ma Wing Shing already wrote the ending
there (When that fortune teller met Wind, Cloud, and Wave, he told them what
their future will look like.)  I don't want to talk too much, since I don't
want you lost interest to "chase" the story :)

jfong@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: Survey on SCHK
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 02:53:51 GMT

In article <7156@transfer.stratus.com> cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com writes:
>william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo) replied to a survey:
>
>>>(1) Why do you read SCHK?
>>	What the heck is SCHK? Where's that huh?
>>
>>>(2) What do you like to read in SCHK?
>>	Huh??? Can I read it right now? 
>>>
>>>(3) What do you hate to read in SCHK?
>>	Huh??? Are you crazy? How the heck do I know??? 
>
>
>Bill, you must be a blonde.

	** Who the heck is Bill??? (Looking left and right...)  
>
>O.K., O.K., it is a joke, Bill.  
>
>Think of it this way, if I made ten people laughed on the net, all credit 
>goes to you.
>
	** If you made 0 people laugh, can I return you the debit?  
	** Hahahaha.....hmhmhmhmh....
>
>Funky Cheung
>
>Cheung's Funky Shop, Inc.

---Keep smiling world,
	Lo's Chunky Supermarket, Ltd.
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From: v050qh6y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: The fifth tin wong
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:25:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct9.083535.7743@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, u1040448@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (C Ma) writes...
>I think Jimmy (Lam Chi Wing) can sing better than Aaron Kwok.
> 
>Chibi
i dont know if he can sing better than aaron, but i must say that seeing 
his posters plastered all over music stores makes me feel old.  he hardly 
looks like hes 17!


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From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo
Keywords: dog god
Date: 13 Oct 92 09:48:52 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne


In article <1bbuukINNfrf@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, ecuzq@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr B H Y Tseng) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct11.130813.2035@uxmail.ust.hk> bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:
|> >
|> >			IS THE GOD ALMIGHTY?
|> >			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> >	** DOG'S THEOREM:  	The God is not all-powerful **
|> >
|> >Proof:
|> >	Assume the God is all-powerful.
|> >	Thus, the God has the power to do anything
|> >	=> the God has the power to create a mass which HE cannot lift
|> >	   up
|> >	=> the God cannot lift up a mass
|> >	=> the God is not all-powerful
|> >
|> >		!!!!CONTRADICTION!!!!
|> >
|> >	=> Completed the proof of DOG'S THEOREM by contrapositivity.
|> >
|> >    @@@@  WELCOME ANY DOGS PLACING DOG'S COMMENTS ON DOG'S THEORM  @@@@
|> 
|> This is a really old so called "proof" but it was discussed in numerous
|> jounals of philosophy that it is not a paradox. The traditional way
|> to answer is that God could not create something which is logically
|> impossible but that doesn't affect his omnipotence.

By definition, omnipotence does mean having unlimited power and I suppose it
can be extended to logically impossible task. Otherwise, one has to accept God
is not omnipotent. The important thing is that why do people think that a 
Christian God is omnipotent. Even one says that God created the Universe doesn't
necessarily mean that God is omnipotent. Universe is finite (unbounded perhaps)
as we know about it, creating a finite Universe does not need omnipotence in the
first place.

|> The other way to answer is to say that God does HAVE THE POWER to create
|> such a stone. At time t, God's having the power to create such a stone
|> won't affect his omipotence. As long as he doesn't create it, he is
|> still omnipotent. So when you ask does God have the power to create
|> such a stone, the answer is, Yes, He does. God only becomes not omnipotent
|> when He does create such a stone. But he has no reason of making himself
|> not omnipotent.

In fact, based on this example, God is NON-omnipotent since there exists 
events that God cannot do in order to maintain his omnipotence.

|> This is not a philosophical question, it's only a language game, and
|> was discussed 10 to 15 years ago. Please read more journals and books
|> about this.

It must be more than 10 to 15 years ...

Lin Can
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From: ylnwai@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Newton Wai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Madly in "love" with schk (:
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:56:53 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <1992Oct09.182014.26990@jho.com>, john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
> poon@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Ka-Cheong Poon) writes:
> 
> >In article <19914@ector.cs.purdue.edu> atmadja@cs.purdue.EDU (Hery Atmadja) writes:
> 
> >[Deleted]
> >								Poon.
> 
> This is a non-commercial marketing research.  I think if we can 
> all identify what we like, we can all do a better job in posting.
> 
> (1) Why do you read SCHK?
	I am bored.
	I like to know what other "Hong Kongers" think of various issue.
> 
> (2) What do you like to read in SCHK?
	Latest political/entertainment news from Hong Kong.
	A little bit of love stories, but don't over do it.
> 
> (3) What do you hate to read in SCHK?
	Flame wars (especially religious ones, since it is not here as an 
excuse for us to flame each other)

							Newton Wai 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong