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From: rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (RS PRO-2006)
Subject: Cell Phone Scanners (was Re: Idiots in Congress
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:45:25 GMT
Followup-To: alt.radio.scanner


|> >Since some cellular telephones have a keypad sequence that unlocks them
|> >to function as cellular receivers, this must mean that any
|>
|> I would sure like to hear more about this!!

|Take a look at the Novatel phones - not only are they quite inexpensive, some
|of them will enter test mode fairly easily, and allow reception by channel
|number of any cellular channel desired.

|Bob Stratton
|strat@intercon.com
|+1 703 709 5525
|<standard disclaimers apply>

I've also been informed that some AT&T cell phones have a keypad 
sequence.

Since it is apparent that some, if not most, cellular phones have
such a test sequence, we need to start compiling a database of
the particular types of cell phones and the test sequences.

We need two things:

[1] Someone to tell us the Model number and test sequence.

    Where is this data availible from? Are there cellular telephone
    repair manuals availible to anyone that lists the particular
    keypad test sequence? Are these manufacturer's manuals availible
    only to authorised repair outfits?

[2] Someone to actually verify that these units will enter the
    cellular channel reception mode; we would need to know what sort
    of capabilities are availible, like if it scans until some
    button is pressed or released, if the channel must be manually
    entered, if the unit automatically exits the test sequence
    via timeout, via another keypad sequence, or just by reset when
    the unit is turned off.

Send the data to me at:

	...!cbnewsc!rats
	
and I'll post a summary of what I've received...

Undoubtedly, the new generation of digital scanners will have a test
mode, so, maybe the age of scanning isn't dead with the upcoming
evolution of cellular phone technology.
From: rja@newbirth.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Cellular scanning
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:39:56 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: newbirth

In article <13415@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>
>>Well I for one have just purchased an extra Pro2006 and an Icom R7100.
>>Grove has a great deal on R7000's too. They are $995.00 right now.
>>I would buy ten if I had the money!
>
>	What's the regular R7000 price?

    From Grove, $1159.95.  However, I just called them and they
    told me that was the price, not $995 (which is listed in their
    most current catalog).

    I'm looking at getting a good scanner/reciever as well. The
    ICOM R100 may be a better deal; under $600, 100 memories, 100kHz-
    1.856 GHz.  The venerable PRO-2006 is also a great deal, and
    there is now a computer interface available as a kit for it.
--
Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.
		    Samuel Addams: Brewer, Patriot.															        "The right to brew beer is the right to be free!" - me
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: edp328j@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Ultrix Systems Support)
Subject: Re: Passport to World Band-->NOT!
Summary: PWBR on Kenwood R-5000
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:57:38 GMT



In <1aur28INNd45@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume) writes:

> [ review details deleted ]
>
> That's it, those are the 2 major complaint's (one of which is even false). 
> There was no real problem with intermodulation, or selectivity, or sound
> quality or sensitivity. This was a poor excuse for a review and as a result
> of this information being incorrect I had to assume that there were other
> errors as well so I put the book back on the shelf where it belongs...

Interesting! The review of the Kenwood R-5000 in the 1991 "Passport To
World Band Radio" criticises the audio quaility from the
tape-recorder output and REPEATS this criticism in the 1992 edition
with the words, "Audio significantly distorted at tape-recording
output."

As a long-time reviewer of audio gear I was surprised at this. My
experience suggests that Kenwood simply does not make design mistakes
that would lead to such a problem. If I had been reviewing the product
I would, at least, have suspected a one-off problem and tested another
sample. I would most-certainly not have repeated the criticism a year
later without retesting.

What makes me think that the "Passport" people haven't retested the
R-5000? One thing is that I own an R-5000 and the audio from the
tape-out jack is NOT distorted. The other is that the tape-out signal
is, quite-properly, at line level and many, many of the tape recorders
that I have seen in recent years have only a mic-level input. I'd be
willing to bet that the tester just listened instead of making
measurements and had a serious mismatch.

I haven't had much faith since in "Passport's" equipment reviews.

Ralphe Neill
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: "ray chow" <ray.chow@canrem.com>
Subject: 6560 khz
Reply-To: "ray chow" <ray.chow@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:09:26 EST

Over the past few weeks I've been hearing a station on 6560 kHz around 
0230-0400 UTC (probably starting earlier and ending later).  Program 
consists of Arabic music and what sounds like readings from the Qur'an.  
Reception here in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada is not terribly good, with 
considerable fading and noise.  Does anyone know what this is?  Thanks.

rc  <ray.chow@canrem.com>

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler)
Subject: Re:      Hilary Clinton's visit
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:16:23 GMT

In article <9210080321.AA26977@intercon.com> "(Bob Stratton)" <strat@INTERCON.COM> writes:
>
>I don't have any freqs handy, but the August Monitoring Times had the
>following candidates' callsigns as issued by the Secret Service:
>
>Bill Clinton = Eagle
>Paul Tsongas = Falcon
>Bob Kerry = Lighthouse
>Pat Buchanan = Cardinal
>
>I hope this helps - If you find out Hilary's...please let us know.
>
  Hillary = CENTERFOLD
  Tipper  = SKYLARK



   I was just kidding about Hilary... Hers is EVERGREEN.



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Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:34:24 U
Reply-To:     bsmorgan <sdrc!netgroup!bsmorgan@UUNET.UU.NET>
Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was SWL$L@CUVMB
From:         bsmorgan <sdrc!netgroup!bsmorgan@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject:      Cellular scanning

                       Subject:                               Time:9:27 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          Cellular scanning                      Date:10/9/92
Since I'm new to SWL and Scanning, I haven't been following the info about the
banning of scanning cellulars.  Will there now be a run on scanners?  If I
wanted to beat the ban, what would be an inexpensive canner that would pick up
cellular, police, fire, etc?  What frequencies would I look for?
   Thanks,
       Brian
       bsmorgan@sdrc.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: skeeter@skatter.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Sangean ATS-803A
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:48:08 GMT

From article <aksurf-111092193910@131.215.9.51>, by aksurf@caltech.edu (Axel):
> Hello Everyone,
> 
> I took the plonge the other day and bought a Sangean Model ATS-803A. My
> main interest is to download WEFAX. Well, I'll tell you, it's a piece of
> crap when it comes to reception, and it's going back to the store. My old
> grundig Satellit 6000 does one hell of a better job with just the
> telescopic antenna. As far as receiving WEFAX transmissions, forget it
> given that the Sangean can barely pick up Voice of America. I was quite
> dissapointed. 

Wow.  I've had a Sangean ATS-803A (Radio Shack DX-440) since 1989.
I've tried other (some more expensive) radios.  None compare.  I'm
using an off-the-shelf unit with the 'chuffing mod' and a 60 ft
outdoor wire.  I can pick up almost anything.  VOA isn't a 
problem even using ONLY the telescopic antenna.  Maybe Axel got 
a bad model or something...

--
skeeter@skatter.usask.ca			no nifty .sig

The weight of one's wallet is inversly proportional to the size of
one's heart.   -- me
From: gt4503e@prism.gatech.EDU (Tracy K. Wood/KD0UP)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Scanner Ban - Effective Date?
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:56:38 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I haven't been watching the traffic too closely so perhaps an answer already
exists.   What is the effective date for the cellular-coverage scanner ban?
What are the penalties?   Should we run down to the local ham store and
buy right now?   Are the manufacturers going to be compensated for all their
(now) illegal inventory.   Poor GRE, ICOM, Yaesu, etc.

As you're painfully aware many side effects result from the legislation.
If a ham radio operator is putting a spur out in the cellular bands he/she
has no way of monitoring the harmful signal.   Just think... spectrum 
analyzers may be illegal.  Of course this is another attempt by Congress to
run our lives.    If the ballot entry has incumbent by it I am voting
creep out.  Enough is enough!
-- 
Tracy K. Wood,  Graduate Student,  (Amateur Radio KD0UP/4)
Georgia Institute of Technology, PO Box 24503, Atlanta GA 30332 USA
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt4503e
Internet: gt4503e@prism.gatech.edu  or   sigcen@chmsr.gatech.edu
From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Radio Malaysia heard
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:38:55 EDT
Organization: American Radio Relay League

Richard Crisp writes:
; 
;Today (Thursday) I managed to make progress in identifying the station
;I mentioned in my last posting. I am over 90% sure it is from Malaysia.
; 
;Here is what I have:
; 
;        time            freq            comments
;        1330            4895            Green Network (Iban Lang)
;        1330            5005.18         Green Network (Iban Lang)
;        1330            7270            Green Network (Iban Lang)
;        (I verified that all three frequencies have the same broadcast)
; 
;        1330            4950            Red Network (English and Chinese)
;        1330            7160            Red Network (English and Chinese)
;        (I verified that both of these had the same program on them)
; 
;        The information quoted above came from the 1992 WRTH.
;        I simply tuned each of the frequencies listed above and
;        confirmed that the top three were sending the same broadcast
;        and that the second pair also had the same broadcast (different
;        from the tomp three of course).
; 
;The thing I find most interesting about this is that the transmitters
;are listed in the WRTH as being 10KW. The Silicon Valley area of California
;is a long way from Sarawak!
;-- 
;Richard Crisp       Cupertino, Ca.          crisp@netcom.com
;(415) 903-3832 wk  "Get rid of the bums!"   (408) 253 4541 fax
; 

I ran MiniProp PlusTM, by W6EL software, for the short
path between Malaysia and California. There is a pronounced
peak in signal level on 4.9-5.0 MHz at 1400 UTC, and a large,
broad peak from 12-14 UTC on 7.2 MHz. Based on the estimated
signal level predicted by MiniProp, I'd expect them to be 
booming in to Silcon Valley at those times, even if they're
using omnidirectional antennas.

Good DX.

Jim Kearman
From: WMONROE@USMCP6.BITNET (WILLIAM MONROE)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: re: radio habana
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:11:37 GMT
Reply-To: WILLIAM MONROE <WMONROE@USMCP6.BITNET>
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

It seems to take them a week or two to respond via e-mail.
All of the replies that I have gotten have been from Jorge Miyares.
He said that they are going to e-mail their schedule to the list soon.

the address is:

radiohc@tinored.cu

if your system doesn't like that one (like mine) try:

tinored!radiohc@web.apc.org

it should get through with that one.
I have not gotten a E-mail QSL as of yet.  I will be sending them another
report tomarrow.
Speaking of RHC, Last night, their signal on 11950 was really good all 5's
from 0100 UTC until 0130.  Then signal faded out to a whisper and there was
lots of QRM.

hope this helps.
73,
Bill Monroe

* <WMONROE@USMCP6.BITNET>
From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: SW Receivers with RS232 interface?
Keywords: OS9/68000 SHORTWAVE RECEIVERS SERIAL RS232 COMMUNICATIONS
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:48:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Oct9.014812.21510
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Oct8.181253.26493@rsd0.rsd.dl.nec.com> dave@rsd.dl.nec.com (Dave Rogers) writes:
>require an external adapter.  NRD receivers have the RS232 interface
>
>Right now I would buy the NRD-525 from Grove for $899. 
>

Note that the NRD525 requires the addition of an OPTIONAL RS232 interface, while
the NRD535D includes the interface as standard equipment. The interface runs
about $90 from folks like Universal etc.

-- 
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(415) 903-3832 wk  "Get rid of the bums!"   (408) 253 4541 fax
From: kolovson@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Curt Kolovson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: upgrade of Sony SW-20... is it any better, or just a new package?
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:29:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories Palo Alto,CA

In the latest EEB catalog, I see that the Sony SW-20 mini-portable has been
upgraded (I forget the new model number).  For years, PWBR has called the
SW-20 a good performer for the size, though its technology was getting "long 
in the tooth".  From the picture, it looks like they've made minor mods to 
the plastic case, and perhaps put in a better (bigger?) speaker, but there 
were no obvious technical changes.  Has anyone got one of these, and can 
you tell me if there are any major technical improvements WRT the old SW-20?  
Have they added more frequency coverage?  Have they improved the sliding 
switch that changes bands (I always thought it was too flimsy on the SW-20)?
Any other observations?  

Thanks in advance,

	Curt
From: gagnon@buma15.bu.edu (David Gagnon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Royal Canadian Air Farce
Summary: when and where?
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:36:27 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Boston University, Boston

Can someone tell me if CBC still broadcasts the program "Royal Canadian
Air Farce"?  I used to catch it Saturday noon or thereabouts.

If it is still on, please send day, time and frequency please.  Evenings
would be preferred.  Thanks.

					>David<
gagnon@math.bu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: sliberm@nyx.cs.du.edu (Sergio Liberman)
Subject: ICOM-R1 in NY
Summary: where I can get the R1 in NY?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 14:20:07 GMT


I will be in NY next week  (Oct. 17-24),
and I am interested in buying an ICOM-R1
handheld SW receiver/scanner.
Where I can find it in NY (pref. Manhattan)
and how much does it cost?

Also, are there any alternatives to this
scanner at about the same price or less?
Size is important, the smaller the better.

Thanks and please answer by email
to sergio@msil.sps.mot.com

Sergio Liberman
From: as_radfo@csd.uwe.ac.uk (AS Radford)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Are major broadcasters using SSB?
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:05:52 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol


Don't forget HCJB - they have an SSB transmission on a high frequency
? around 21 MHz ? (sorry, no reference material handy).



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From: bz649@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kenneth V Zichi)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Hallicrafters
Date: 8 Oct 1992 04:00:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Glenn --

  An air variable cap --- humf -- what part of the circuit is it 
attached to?  I'd guess this is likely an antenna trimmer of 
some sort -- and I still wager it is an aftermarket mod (altho
if that's what it is, it should be a useful one!).
  Humf -- thinking about it tho, you mentioned it caused "squeal-
ing", and that is inconsistent with an ant trim.  Maybe someone
added a variable BFO?  Let us know where that cap connects -- at
least to which tube.
  
 >we (me and my suite-mates) had enough trou
 >putting up an external TV antenna ...
 
**Chuckle**  I still recall quite dramatically hanging out a third floor
dorm window and trying to catch a wire being dangled down from the roof.
My buddies apparently were more compliant in my DX needs than yours!
  :)
  
 Catch you later.  
-- 
73  //kv zichi  bz649@Cleveland.FreeNet.edu
From: tijoma@uta.fi (Jorma M{ntyl{)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Radio Mazury, 1584 kHz, Poland
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:53:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

This morning I heard a Polish station on 1584 kHz.  The station should be
the recently opened radio station of the Polish catholic church called
"Radio Mazury".  

The stn was heard at 0615-0720 UTC with western rock-music and some jazz, plus
Polish hits.  A female speaker read announcements sounding like listeners
messages to each other.  No commercial advertisements noted, and no clearly
religious programmes.  No news on the hour.  The female speaker announced
"Radio Auru?" or something like that; haven't yet listened to my tape.

Is there anyone understanding Polish?  How is the name Radio "Mazury"
pronounced?  What does it mean?

#Jorma Mantyla
#Univ. of Tampere
#Finland
From: cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Civil aviation sw frequencies
Date: 13 Oct 1992 22:11:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, A.Cotroneo@IT12.BULL.IT ("") says:

>I wonder if anyone on this list has frequencies used by transatlantic
>planes (TWA, American, Delta, etc.) on shortwave. Or do they use
>satellite transmissions to talk to their own people on the land?
>
>Just curious to know how a commercial flight plane would communicate
>to the air traffic control over the Atlantic, since the 130MHz band
>-I guess - would be of very little use because of the distance.

AIRINC is responsible for these overocean comms. and the freqs. are as
follows: (all freqs. in kHz Upper Side Band)
  Atlantic: 5598, 5615, 6535, 6577, 8846, 8891, 11279, 13291
  Pacific: 3413, 5547, 5574, 8843, 11282, 13288

For an excellent discussion of how this system works and the details
involved check out the August, 1992 issue of Monitoring Times.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: harpe@netnews.louisville.edu (Mike Harpe)
Subject: Re: Are major broadcasters using SSB?
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:50:19 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

cd651@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wally L. Blume) writes:
> I heard Radio For Peace Int. on 7285 in USB this morning this might have
>something to do with their recent problems of being jammed.

I heard this as well.  I was wondering if that was common or not....

Mike

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: "david toste" <david.toste@canrem.com>
Subject: sangean 803a
Reply-To: "david toste" <david.toste@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:06:10 EST


Any one have any mods for the Sangean 803A or any fixs and so on?

Reply back to : David.Toste@canrem.com

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,alt.radio.scanner
From: chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV)
Subject: Re: Idiots in Congress
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:52:08 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Department of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct9.145648.3864@cbnewsc.cb.att.com> rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (RS PRO-2006) writes:
>
>In <1992Oct9.124302.21941@netcom.com> Richard Crisp states:
>
>|Well our unworthy lawmakers have really screwed up the scanner business
>|by passing a ridiculous law banning the sale of receivers capable of 
>|receiving cellular frequencies. I suppose they have even benned cellular
>|phones themselves (although I haven't read the text), since a cellular
>|phone is a receiver capable of receiving cellular transmissions.
>
>Since some cellular telephones have a keypad sequence that unlocks
>them to function as cellular receivers, this must mean that any

I would sure like to hear more about this!!

>cellular telephone with this test sequence is an illegal unit? I
>assume cellular phones have to go under the FCC Part 15 regulations
>for certification.
>

I'm sure that FCC would deny Part 15 certification to any cell phone that
they knew could do this, however, I'm very sure that I, and many others, could
write programs to make any existing cell phone behave as a scanner for the cell
bands.  All I would need is enough people to talk me into it (read $$$).  A
copy of that "confidential" cell phone programming book would probably also
be helpful.

The opinions that I have read seem to state that conversion devices and people
doing conversions are exempt from prosecution.  The ban seems only to apply to
scanner manufacturers seeking Part 15 certification.

>Hey, now that's a thought. If cellular phones are found to be exempt
>from this regulation, manufacture a cheap cellular telephone with
>an enhanced keypad escape sequence and sell those on the market!!!

>Maybe some enterprising company could manufacture enhanced receiver
>section digital cellular telephones with an enhanced keypad escape
>sequence, that, when initiated, will act as scanner receivers with the
>cellular channel display on where the telephone digits show up, eh?

Yeah, RIGHT!  Who do you think started this whole scanner ban thing?  Trust
me, it wasn't the tooth fairy, she likes to listen too.


Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave