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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:54:41 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Don't laugh, but

>Reading Karsten's narrative of the <piercings> *hurts*, ooooo,
>it really *hurts*!
>--ggs (not ready for this yet....)

You are the guy who was "afraid" of eating goat's balls, right?

tushar
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (76)
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        John Hinckley is a terribly disturbed young man with paranoid
        schizophrenia.  He shot President Reagan in order to impress an
        actress, Jodie Foster; he got the details from a movie Foster was
        in (Taxi Driver).  Hinckley's parents realized he was mentally ill
        only after he shot Reagan.

Ha, you fell for it too, huh?  It was THE CONSPIRACY I tell you!!!!

G
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From:         jc-s <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: The Salmonbake Uprising
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>
>Speaking of the electronic medium, one important factor in choosing the
>site for the FTF bake is telnet access.  Can the Portland Planners promise
>it to us?

nope.

>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

jenna "no more negociating" cold-steel
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Shark
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LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Karen Kay) writes:
> What is the derivation of this word?

My Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary (c. 1959) offers:
     [Prob. named from its rapacity and fr. SHARK a
     crafty person.]  Any of numerous elasmobranch fishes...

--karsten

(Hmm.  I wonder what I'd find if I had the OED on CD-ROM...)
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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        I just got Bill Clinton's e-mail address (internet) off
        another list and sent him a message asking where we should
        have the Salmonbake.  I wonder if the address works?

Not if it's that compuserve address that was posted here last summer.

If it's at something.house.gov, they're not properly connected yet.

G
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From:         "Emily J. Horning" <IBJQEJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Emily's Science/Nature Question

> "What is the brightest planet seen from Earth?"

Venus, I'll say.

> Entertainment or Sport/Leisure next.

Sport/Leisure.

> Carolyn

Emily
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Subject:      Re: Yet Another Holiday Report.
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Posted on 24 Jan 1993 at 19:19:07 by LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
>You could at least have said "Thank you Wombat for making the subject headings
>so distinctive!" :-(

Thank you, Wombat, for making the subject headings so distinctive!
Actually, I read them, just to see what the answers are.

Karen
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:51:33 LCL
From:         Natalie <natalie@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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Message ID: <230193125133.A12345678>
I can do it this way, of course.
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Carolyn's History Question
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>An easy one.
>
>What Russian cosmonaut was killed in an air crash in 1968 while commanding a
>training unit?

I sure hope you're right, because the only Russian cosmonaut I can think of
is Yuri Gargarin.... so that's my answer.

>If correct, you got a two - that means Art/Literature or Science.
>
>Emily

Art/Literature will do me.

Carolyn
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
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rita@EFF.ORG (Rita Marie Rouvalis) writes:
> Kyoto-based ATR Automatic Speech Translation Telephone
> Laboratory claims to have brought the concept into reality with its
> development of a prototype automatic speech translation telephone
> system... The slightly bad news is that it is likely to take
> another ten years before a practical system for end users comes to
> market.

It'll take a lot longer than 10 years.  It's been only 10 years away
for 30 years now.

> Speech translation is a major project in Japan. ATR was created
> by the Japanese Ministry, Prefectural governments, NTT, KDD and other
> private electronics firms in 1986. About 50 researchers are studying
> and developing the system.

Still hoping to squeeze something, anything, out of the Fifth Generation
Computer crap, I see.

As long as the Japanese keep up this monopolistic masturbation American
high-tech superiority is assured.

--karsten
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:07:48 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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> I've had it suggested to me that subscribing to WORDS-L could be comnsidered
> an abuse of resources because it breaks proper list etiquette by allowing
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                          ??????????????????????
As defined by whom?

> use of the list for virtually personal conversation and in the process puts
> very undue strain on the systems of the subscribers. Supposedly personal

Depends on the systems, doesn't it?  It doesn't seem to put undue strain
on Ra.  People with feeble systems should perhaps not subscribe.

> I pass this on as information, and not as a criticism on my part. WORDS-L

I didn't see it as criticism.  I saw it as somebody's personal biases about
what net life "should" be.  (The "somebody" refers not to you, but to
whoever has been telling you things like that.)  The UGA listserv manager
is very well respected in NetDom.  If he thought this list was an abuse of
resources, he wouldn't let it be running through his mainframe.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: tjl9@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Thomas J Lee)
Subject: Re: Maya's poem
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:06:25 GMT

Karen writes:

K>I finally looked this up: it's Innuit, double-n.  My American Heritage
K>gives Innuits as a possible plural, but this has always sounded silly to me
K>because Innuit IS a plural, of Innuk.  The American Heritage dictionary
K>says that Innuit means 'people' in the Eskimo lg.  Oh yeah!

	So they are the Innuit, are they?  Well, you learn something new
every day.  As far as I can tell, I was wrong about there being a single
group called Eskimo, though the language family is called Eskimo-Aleut.

Tom Lee
who will someday know more about this, but not yet, apparently

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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Don't laugh, but
Originator: rita@eff.org
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:15:11 GMT

	I received no less than 15 pair of socks this Christmas. Nice
thick white ones and some colored to match outfits I already own.
I was absolutely thrilled.  I can now go over 2 weeks without doing
laundry and still have clean socks to wear -- and I didn't even have
to go buy them myself.

Rita






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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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> Where in North Carolina?

If you're coming all the way from Hawaii, does it really matter?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject:      Re: Shark
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Posted on 23 Jan 1993 at 22:20:56 by Peter Montgomery
>Suppose they all did originate
>in Shakespeare's mind/imagination. Can 'we' not say they were born
>out of nothing?

Shakespeare's brain is not nothing.

>Alternatively, do we have to say Shakespeare got
>them from some where? If so, where?

I don't know where he got them from, but chances are he popularized
their usage rather than inventing each and every one of them out of
the whole cloth of his imagination.

Karen
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:44:16 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Evelyn's Sport/Leis

>> OK, Smart Aleck - who was the poster from SIVM.BITNET the other day, hmmm???
>
>Sorry to step in first, but I'm guessing blommie -- since he's said he's been
>working at the Smithsonian -- when the posting appeared I checked that SIVM
>is the Smithsonian Institution.  Correct?

It could be Adrian but sounded more long-winded. Blomberg talking
whatever stupid nonsense it was seems quite impossible to me.

Joan is one of us, by the way. She too guessed Santa correctly.

tushar
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 25 Jan 93 11:43:22 GMT
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subject searching is *very very* important!  The Florida state colleges/
universities system has a menu where one can choose one or another
of the individual libraries' catalogs, or the Union List for the lot--
and guess which one does NOT have subject searching!  So if you want 
to know, <Is there a book anywhere in this state on -whatsits->, you
have to go through -each- of about 16 library catalogs.  And no, the
Union List doesn't have call # searching, either, tho many of the 
constituent libraries do.

--bayla (who has a few clues, but they never seem appropriate)
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
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:>> On the other hand, supposing it wasn't a person on words-l, but a former
:>> words-ler on another list, or even one of our system managers? We are

:>I have noticed that an ex-whore is almost always the first to speak out
:>against prostitution.

:You obviously don't know a) many ex-whores or b) folks who speak out
:against prostitution.

Oh, I'm sure he does.  He's an xtian, remember.  They're always at it.

G
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Subject:      tarheel

Greetings,

I will ask my spousal unit, who has all the Outer Banks realty stuff
at our home in KY, to give me some pricing information.  I had thought of
the Outer Banks as an additional destination for those of us who may
decide to make the Word-l event the bookend of a vacation.  Although the
Outer Banks is a lovely spot, one wonders whether it can work as a
group destination, in view of the fact there would be no local organizer.
True, there are plenty of public beaches and parks, etc., but unless we
wish to do all the work ourselves (I mean cooking and the like), we won't
have the kind of experience we had last year.  Also, I should note that
although the Outer Banks is a popular campsite, I prefer to avoid
grit and sand.  Finally, although the Outer Banks is the home of American
flight, I'm not sure it's a practical destination for those who would
fly.  Does anyone know whether it's easy to connect into Nag's Head?

Marty
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From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
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Posted on 21 Jan 1993 at 23:35:25 by Rashmi
>It rhymes with play-doh.

Okay, but I think the spelling is sufficiently ambiguous that they didn't
want to risk it.  "Cluedo" is also rather uneuphonious.

Karen
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From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Susan's Sport/Leisure Question
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On Sun, 24 Jan 1993 LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU wrote:

> "What country's presence at the 1976 Olympics caused a boycott by almost
> all African nations?"

South Africa, I'm guessing.

> If you're right, you have a chance at the lead as well, but do you think the
> dice will roll a 2 or 6 at the next round?

Probably a six.

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
"Queens never make bargains."  -- The Red Queen, _Through the Looking Glass_
-----amadeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu--------------The University of Texas @Austin---
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 26 Jan 93 00:10:25 GMT
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>>> 4) How much a week do you spend?

>To me, they all *mean* the same, but number 4 sounds
>awkward, and unlikely to be used by that mythical
>"native speaker" (e.g., me).
>love, judith

# 4 is often heard with the last wword utteredin incredulity or 
wonder: How much a week do you -spend-?!

In general, the "per week" variations imply to me that some precision is 
asked for, and the "a week" variants call for a guesstimate answer. 

--bayla

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Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
              27 Jan 1993 06:14:55 -0500 from <jboor@RA.CS.UMB.EDU>

Natalie, you need to change your project in the finger facility!

brad
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:02:51 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Pigs
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I asked a pig expert about the pot-bellied pigs growing larger.  She said
that they had to have been crossbred for that to happen.  Then I asked her
Doris's question about why they would be inedible.  Here's her reply:

> The only reason I can think of that they would be inedible is that they are
> too mature.  Normal slaughter age is 6 months.  The older pigs would not taste
> as good as the younger ones.  But they wouldn't really be inedible.

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Thanks for the words
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I think the "wooly jumper" connection is perhaps significant.  I like
that term.  But are there corduroy and cotton sheep in Australia?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject:      Re: What do you know about Elizabeth City, NC?
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On Thu, 28 Jan 1993, Entropy Warrior wrote:

> As long as I can tell them from the fish with their eyes closed. ;-)

I trust you'll keep us <advised>.

-abh
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Salmonbake bitching
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> > As long as its near one of the airports that do cheap int'l flights,
> > like NY, Boston, or... er... that's it.
>
> Are there int'l flights to Charlotte?  If not, there's always Washington
> slightly to the north of NC and Atlanta slightly to the south.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

There are international flights to Charlotte, to Raleigh, and to
Greensboro, though I'm not sure from where.  Surely one or more have
direct London flights.  I think RDU has them to London, Paris, and
Frankfort (Frankfurt... Franqueferte)
But they are probably not as cheap as to JFK or Dulles.
Surely *somebody* would be willing to pick up <gt> in DC and get him
to NC.
I like the beach!  Either Outer Banks or Topsail or Wilmington (which
is a charming city, and interesting.... on a small scale)
Or *SURF* *CITY*!
We could have a Beach Music/Shag contest.  They still do that sort of
thing.  Really.  Seriously.  Everytime we go to the beach, I drive my
tc/sw crazy singing SURF CITY SURF CITY.
--ggs
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From:         torkel@SICS.SE
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              24 Jan 93 11:53:46 -0500. <9301241658.AA04514@sics.se>

   >But you're not safe even if you avoid the ocean!  How about those
   >nasty cane toads (Bufo marinus) that were imported to control insects
   >and are about to take over Queensland and NSW?  Indestructible,
   >apparently.

  The cane toads (imported from Hawaii) are indeed poisonous, and some people
dry and smoke them. On the other hand, little children keep them as pets.
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
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> Natalie's post was one of those. What I was going to ask was if those
> swimmers in the North Atlantic who didn't freeze were actually swimming in
> the Gulf Stream?

I don't know exactly where the Gulf Stream streams.  Most of my Atlantic
swimming has been off the east coast of Florida.  Is that the Gulf Stream?
I can assure you that the water is not cold.  It's fine for skinny dipping
and even for other activities.  Or at least it was back in the old days
when there were still lots of stretches of deserted beach just south of
Melbourn, Florida.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 28 Jan 1993 22:18:09 GMT
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In a previous article, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor) says:

>I think the "wooly jumper" connection is perhaps significant.  I like
>that term.  But are there corduroy and cotton sheep in Australia?

I doubt it.  Nervous ones, maybe....  Corduroys are french sheep....

-- 
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
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On Fri, 22 Jan 1993, Peter Montgomery wrote:

> > I've enjoyed your company but I can't keep up with the traffic. Could
 someone
>
> I've had it suggested to me that subscribing to WORDS-L could be comnsidered
> an abuse of resources because it breaks proper list etiquette by allowing
> use of the list for virtually personal conversation and in the process puts
> very undue strain on the systems of the subscribers. Supposedly personal

Whoever suggested that is precisely the type of person who doesn't belong
on Words-L. To borrow a phrase from GT, they're overly anal-retentive
pillocks.

In short, they can go stuff it.

-abh
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Where were you 15 years ago today?
Originator: rita@eff.org
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:55:19 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%93012616381571@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu> writes:
>Does anyone remember the Big Blizzard of 1978?

	Yes.  Both of them.




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>   But you're not safe even if you avoid the ocean!  How about those
>   nasty cane toads (Bufo marinus) that were imported to control insects
>   and are about to take over Queensland and NSW?  Indestructible,
>   apparently.  You squash one, and it swallows its own intestines and
>   goes on its rapacious way.
>
>   brad

Not quite indestructible..... they don't fair too well when a semi-trailer
runs over them, but the truckies are wary of them because too many squashed
cane toads can cause serious accidents..... more slippery than a road covered
in oil. A heavy blow between the eyes with a 10 pound hammer can also send
them to 'cane toad heaven' and they're only poisonous if you happen to eat
one. They do have one virtue though, they can cure a feral cat problem very
effectively.

Carolyn
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Subject:      Re: Yes
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On Wed, 27 Jan 1993, BiSpecies List wrote:

> But of course!  If you know the special pawshake, you too can join us
> here on BISPECI-L.

Somehow, I think Words-L just crossed a line we shouldn't have...
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Posted on 27 Jan 1993 at 16:15:37 by VM Network Mailer (108969)
>>Speaking of the electronic medium, one important factor in choosing the
>>site for the FTF bake is telnet access.  Can the Portland Planners promise
>>it to us?
>
>nope.
>jenna "no more negociating" cold-steel

What about Carol or Clint?

Karen
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