HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: stephen@iceneb.astro.ucla.edu (Stephen Schimpf)
Subject: Re: C/C++ 7.00 patch
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:26:12 PDT

In article <75440001@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> gordonm@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Gordon Margulieux) writes:
>I'm probably the only one that didn't know but there's a C700 patch on
>MS BBS (206)936-6735 {9600 baud}.
>

No, I didn't know either, so there's at least two of us. Could someone 
please upload this somewhere where it could be gotten via anonymous ftp?
Or perhaps mail me the patch?

Stephen



Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: dwightm@microsoft.com (Dwight Matheny)
Subject: Re: Win SDK 3.1 upgrade missing manuals
Date: 04 Sep 92 16:54:45 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: SDK 3.1 Missing Manuals

Those two manuals were missing from the original builds of the
SDK. Contact your local MS office and they will order the books
for you- the part number they will order is 048-044-215.

-Dwight (MS)
From: mark@sdd.hp.com (Mark Overton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: MSC/SDK Beginner's Luck (BAD) -- Reality Check Needed
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:52:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdl157.sdd.hp.com

In article <2010@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM>, akh@empress.gvg.tek.com (Anna K. Haynes) writes:
|> I thought Microsoft was supposed to be a reputable company, but if 
|> they can't even get the BASIC BASIC BEGINNER MORON stuff to 
|> work, .... does it get any better or is this what I have to 
|> look forward to?  Are the proofreaders & debuggers awake up there? 

We all can say, "Praise God for Borland!"  I've used them exclusively since
being a "beginner moron", and their code works.  Petzold's examples work
(once you use "smart callbacks").

I've heard that Microsoft's C++ system is worse than Borland's, but it's
hard to believe it's as bad as you describe!  I know people use the MS system
to create actual Windows applications, so it's _possible_ to get around its
shortcomings.  Just keep pounding on it until it yields (or buy Borland).

Mark Overton,  Hewlett-Packard (San Diego Div),  mark@sdd.hp.com

    "If I ever hear of anyone compromising quality in order to make
    shipments, I will personally have them fired." -- Dave Packard, 1977

    (I wish HP would actually do this)
From: kris@circ.upenn.edu (Kris Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: emacs under ms-windows (w
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:27:02 GMT
Reply-To: kris@circ.upenn.edu
Organization: Cardiothoracic Imaging Research Center

In article 488@execnet, tom.betz@execnet.com (tom betz) writes:
> Quoth John C Persons regarding EMACS UNDER MS-WINDOWS (W on 09-09-92:
> 
> JC>Try MicroEMACS for Windows at ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  If I remember
> JC>correctly, it's in pub/win3/util.  (I may be missing a directory
> JC>level there, I'm not sure.)
> 
> What's the file name?  I can't find anything suggesting EMACS in any of 
> the file names there...
> 
> ---
>  ~ WinQwk 2.0 a#299 ~ $$$ not found -- A)bort, R)efinance, D)eclare
> --
> Executive Network Information System  (914) 667-4567
> International ILink Host

From the INDEX file: 
**  Index of Windows Utilities Files in ~ftp/pub/pc/win3/util
**  at ftp.cica.indiana.edu [129.79.20.84]
**
mew10e.zip	920805	MicroEmacs 3.11c Port to Windows
mewin10s.zip	920422	MicroEmacs 3.11c Source
mewri.zip	920422	MicroEmacs 3.11c Documentation


---
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Dept Radiology - Hospital of U of Pennsylvania
Internet: kris@gynko.circ.upenn.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: fnsgs@alf.uib.no (Gunnar Sylthe)
Subject: Re: exit
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 06:23:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.175903.990@beckman.com> fjbielsik@beckman.com (Frank Bielsik) writes:
>Has anyone figured out the .FRM file format that Visula Basic uses?
>Is there a tool that can take a .FRM file and generate a .DLG equivalent?
>
>Thanks.

Here's part of the description of vbrc10.zip, currently to be found in the
pub/pc/win3/uploads directory at ftp.cica.indiana.edu:

/**************************************************************************/
				VBRC

Summary:
--------

VBRC10.ZIP  -  Generates Dialog Templates from Visual Basic Forms.


Purpose:
--------

VBRC reads VisBasic FORMs and generates Dialog Templates, which
are (*.dlg) text files ready for RC resource compilation.

VBRC was designed to allow developers a much needed path for 
porting VisBasic apps to other languages such as C, C++, PASCAL, 
etc. 

The developer can expect to save nearly all the time required in
porting VisBasic FORM layouts to dialog boxes. This is the scope 
of the current release, VBRC 1.0.

/***********************************************************************/

I have not looked at it yet, but hopefully, it does what you want.

Good luck!


--Gunnar
_____________________________________________________________________________

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: trodgers@nmsu.edu (Thomas Rodgers)
Subject: Re: Borland C++ with Protogen or AF?
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:54:52 GMT

I just got ProtoGen, but I am still waiting for my upgrade to BC++3.1&AF.
My Initial feelings regarding ProtoGen however, are somewhat mixed.
The main problem I have with it, is that I would like to
use the Borland Custom Controls and my own custom buttons in my
applications, but ProtoGen only seems to pick up the buttons defined
by Borland in their DLL.  Presumably once I actually try to generate
an App, the dialogs will load the correct Button resources, but
ProtoGen does not!  As far as prototyping an application quickly, it
seems to work pretty well.  

In general, I think if I had to choose between ProtoGen and the
Application Frameworks, I would take the Application Frameworks.  I
think they'll save you more coding in the long run than will ProtoGen
by itself will.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: wlb@progress.COM (Warren Bare)
Subject: VB outline control
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:50:46 GMT


Howdy Folks,

  Does anyone know where I can get an outline control for VB?

  I am interested in the functionality of a selection list
where I specify the parent item for any new item being added.
The control could then let the user open and close branches
of the tree, or let the user select a leaf level item.

  I am imagining a UI like outliners in many word processors
(Ami, Word, etc...).  It is also sort of like the directory
selector control that comes with VB.

  Please e-mail me.  If anyone else is interested, I will post
a summary to the net.

Thanks,
Warren

--
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Progress Software Corp.   Internet: Warren.Bare@progress.com
14 Oak Park                    FAX: 1 617 275 4595
Bedford, MA  01730
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: gasp@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Isaac Kohane)
Subject: Resource editor
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science
Distribution: usa'
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:55:31 GMT


Hi,

I'm asking this on behalf of a friend and since I am a mac programmer
and not a Window developer, I apologize if the following is
unnecessarily obscure. Does Windows have the equivalent of Resedit which
is a general purpose resource editor on the mac? For instance it can edit icons
sounds, dialog boxes and other mac resource types.

Please email directly to me. I'll summarize replies to this group.

-Isaac
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: kervel@cs.utwente.nl (Rinie Kervel)
Subject: Revolution or madness??
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 19:37:49 GMT


	Revolution in Parsing ?? (C) August 17, 1992 Rinie Kervel
	e-mail: kervel@cs.utwente.nl
		
Either I am insane or I have uncovered a flaw in compiler theory.
As a result I have devised a new parsing method that has it all:

	- simple
	- small
	- fast
	- excellent error handling
	- reusable components
	- intuitive
	- extensible
	- applicable to weakly structure languages and computer files
	  (shell scripts, X resource files, DBASE, COBOL or BASIC) 
	- easily used in hand coded parsers
	- can be implemented with parser generators

I know this sounds too good to be true. (At first I felt inclined to brand 
myself a fool, now I am prepared to take the test). Before you dismiss 
this message, I am not entirely new to compilation:
	- I have taken a (university) course in compiler construction
	- I read all the books:
		Aho, Sethi & Ullman's dragon book
		Fisher & Le Blanc
		Allen Holub
		Schreiner & Friedman
	- I have written yacc parsers, studied yacc & bison.
	- I have examined compiler sources & generated code

The revolutionary effects mean that most phases in compilation should be
reexamined systematically. However, evolutionary effects can be achieved 
within weeks. Resulting in faster compilers with good error handling, even
in yacc generated parsers.

Now I am faced with some conflicting goals:

	- I want the credit
	- I want to make it generally available for public domain or GNU-like
	  software and end users
	- I want to get a fair share of the money saved in the 
	  development, and a share of the additional value of commercial 
	  products.

I can explain the idea to anyone that has a basic understanding of 
compilation in 15 minutes. Therefore I will not even give a hint
of how it's done before I know what to do with the idea, without getting
ripped of.

In my opinion, the only way to meet these goals (partially), is to contact
some computer hot shot with vision, in a US company, say:

	- Borland's Phillipe Kahn
	- Sun Soft's Bill Joy
	or less commercially:
	- AT&T's Dennis Ritchie or Bjarne Stroustrup
	
(Yes I know I am very very humble).

My questions are:

	- How do I reach them.
	- What are my chances of getting ripped of.
	- How do I prevent this.
	- How can I protect the idea.
	- Are there better ways to achieve my goals.

The new method has the simplicity of bubblesort and the power of quicksort,
whereas traditional parsing has quicksort complexity with bubblesort
efficiency. (Yes this is an understatement!).

Please answer by e-mail:

	kervel@cs.utwente.nl

or write to (please announce through e-mail):

	Rinie Kervel
	Campuslaan 27-206
	NL 7522 NC Enschede
	Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From:  volt@kaskad.msk.su (Shirin Vladimir Voltovich)
Subject: Does anyone know tools for edit TT font ? 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:25:08 GMT
Reply-To: volt@kaskad.msk.su
Organization: SV KASKAD
Keywords: TrueType Font create edit 
Summary: I want to buy tools for creat or edit TrueType font

Hi,
Please, say me how to creat or to edit Truetype font
or where I can buy tools for it ?
Sincerely,
Volt Simon

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: yev_g@athena.mit.edu (Yevgeny Gurevich)
Subject: Re: IS IT WINDOWS, OWL, OR ME?
Keywords: OWL Windows Borland BCW
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:51:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.001526.18454@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> ggh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (gerald.g.heit) writes:
>
>My app uses a resource'd dialog for the main window and has
>a multiline edit control, TEdit, that I like to come up as read only.
>Then the user may click a radio button to make it fully
>editable (and click again for readonly, etc.).
>I experimented with TEdit and could not find a way to
>merely toggle readonly on and off as I would have liked, so

You certainly can toggle the "read-only"ness of an edit control. Simply
use SendDlgItemMsg() to send an EM_READONLY message to the edit control.
You pass a true or a false, depending on what you want the new attribute to
be.  I believe that you can also use the attributes of the control by
doing something like EditBox.Attr.Style &= READONLY, although I am not
really sure about which values to use in this case.


-- 
yev_g@athena.mit.edu
500 Memorial Drive, Cambridge, MA.  [ Yevgeny Gurevich ]
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: walt@drd.com (Walt.Gaber)
Subject: Using VB custom controls with C/C++ & SDK
Organization: DRD Corporation
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:18:47 GMT


Is it possible to make use of the custom controls that are included
with Visual Basic & Professional Visual Basic when developing a Windows
program using MS C/C++ and the SDK?  If so, how?


   walt.gaber@drd.com                                       (918) 743-3013
   DRD Corp., 5506 South Lewis Ave., Tulsa, OK 74105        (918) 745-9037 fax
From: diku0049@diku.dk (Gisli Rafn Olafsson=)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Visual Basic: Btrieve Library
Summary: Beta testers wanted for a BTRIEVE DLL for Visual Basic
Keywords: BTRIEVE,VB
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:53:28 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen


	One of the things that bothers many users of BTrieve is
that it does not have a programmer-friendly interface.  To solve
this I have developed a DLL library which gives you a friendlier
interface.
	The DLL needs to be thoroughly tested before it can be
used in comercial software (it has gotten 2 months of internal
testing).  If you are interessted in being a beta tester, please
send me email to gro@rvik.ismennt.is 
	The DLL comes with a declaration module for VB and
a short manual.

Gisli Rafn Olafsson
Axel Software
gro@rvik.ismennt.is
From: cm@cmm.ovum.ka.sub.org (Christoph Mueller)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms.programmer,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: Restart Windows from within, resource garbage collection
Keywords: ExitWindows, Restart
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 21:38:22 CED
Distribution: world
Organization: Christoph's PC, Karlsruhe, Germany

jinli@dgp.toronto.edu (Jin Tonic Li) writes:

>
> 1. How do I restart Windows in a Windows application that is currently runnin
>    The control panel can do this when the virtual memory size is changed.
>
Try out
ExitWindows (EW_REBOOTSYSTEM, 0)    to terminate Windows and reboot
ExitWindows (EW_RESTARTWINDOWS, 0)  to terminate and restart Windows

As far as I know, in Windows 3.0 those were undocumented features, the
value of EW_RESTARTWINDOWS is 66 (0x42).

As I just saw in the manual (3.1 but it says that the function is from Win 3.0)
was this function  ExitWindowsExec  which can be used to exit windows, run
an MS-DOS program and restart Windows again.  Just in case the above is not
enough.

>
> 2. Is there a way to clean up dangling resources, e.g. GDI, that are left beh
>    by other tasks?  Windows' own screen saver always hogs resources this way.
>

The only way definite way to do this which I know of is the above: exit and
restart windows.  Does anybody know better ways?

---Christoph, Germany    ---   cm@cmm.ovum.ka.sub.org
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: janee@world.std.com (Jane Eisenstein)
Subject: found a styled text dll
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:59:05 GMT

A while back, I posted a request for leads to a third party library
that would provide me with simple word processor functionality under
Windows.  A few people expressed an interest in hearing about anything
I might find.

The one product that I found is TX Text-Control sold by the Aristos
Company (203-521-0881).  It is a DLL that has a similar API to the
Windows "edit" class.  In fact, the API is so similar that TX also has
a 64k limit.  If that is not a problem, the product demo that I
received shows that TX provides extensive WYSIWYG text formatting
features.  TX is not an open system so I wouldn't be able to extend it
to embed non-text elements. There is however an addon DLL available
that supports embedding tiff images within the text.  The TX DLL is
$1600; the addon is $500.
From: s2212530@techst02.technion.ac.il (Oded Malky)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Convert DOS addres to WINDOWS protected mode address
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:10:24 GMT
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology

Hi programmers.
 
 I'm trying to convert DOS address to WINDOWS address in protected mode. 
I got the following routine and it should do the job, but while running it
yells for error (in the line marked in arrow). The routine was originaly
written for MS/C, and I'm trying to make it work under BC++ 3.0.
 
1. Can anybody help me to make this routine work under BC++ 3.0 ?
2. If not, dose anybody know how to convert DOS addres (segment+offset) to
   WINDOWS protected mode addres ?
 
Thanks
 
  Oded.
 
The routine in question:
==============================================================================
HANDLE PASCAL AllocateSelector(unsigned segment, unsigned offset, DWORD length)
{                                               
    DWORD physicalAddress, linearAddress;       /* This function allocs & maps */
    HANDLE selector;                            /* a protected mode selector */
    struct SREGS sregs;                         /* for a real mode address */
 
    segread(&sregs);                            /* Copy DS selector */
 
    if ((selector = AllocSelector(sregs.ds)))   /* Successful Allocate? */
    {                                           /* Phys = Lin In 1st Megabyte */
        linearAddress = physicalAddress = ((DWORD) segment << 4L) + offset;
--->    SetSelectorBase(selector, linearAddress);  /* Set New Base Address */
        SetSelectorLimit(selector, length);     /* Set New Segment Range */
    }
    return(selector);
}
+---------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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| Internet: s2212530@techst02.technion.ac.il       fax/phone: 972-4-324780  |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: roper@halcyon.com (Michael Roper)
Subject: drawtext() replacement
Organization: Amaze Inc., Kirkland WA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:27:08 GMT

can anyone recommend a replacement for drawtext()?
it would normally be part of a library package of 
some sort, which is fine.  i don't mind paying for
the rest of it, but a version of drawtext() that
works is my main interest.

in particular (speaking in drawtext() terms), it
must support a DT_CALCRECT flag that reports
what the subsequent call to drawtext() with the
same parameters will actually look like.  it
must also clip to the given rect if requested.
(and if you think the windows drawtext() already
does this stuff, you're mistaken.)

in addition, extra bells and whistles would be
welcome (like drawing text to a region instead
of a rect), but in any case it should be fast
and efficient (don't ding the performance for
a formatting flag i didn't specify).  i also
need a package with source code and without
royalties.

any pointers would be appreciated.  thanks.

michael roper
amaze inc.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca (Richard Reiner)
Subject: Re: C/C++ 7.00 patch
Organization: York University
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 15:59:58 GMT

In article <75440001@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> gordonm@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com
(Gordon Margulieux) writes:

>I'm probably the only one that didn't know but there's a C700 patch on
>MS BBS (206)936-6735 {9600 baud}.

Could someone please upload this to cica, before we *all* have to make
long-distance calls to Washington?

-- 
Richard Reiner........rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca........416-538-3947

Learning, n.  The kind of ignorance distinguishing the studious.
  -- Ambrose Bierce, _The Devil's Dictionary_.
From: inpd@mel.dbce.csiro.au (Ian Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Converting a DOS Fortran Program to Windows
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:07:21 GMT
Organization: CSIRO, Div. Building Constr. and Eng'ing, Melb., Australia

Hi,

I have a fellow programmer who has written a DOS based fortran program that
uses graphics.  He has written it using Fortran 5.1 from Microsoft.

He now wants to port it to windows so that both the user interface and graphics
are windows based.

So my questions are:

i) Is there a fortran compiler out there that can produce Windows code and
supports simple graphics and do windows, buttons, listboxes etc. 

ii) If the answer two i) is no then has anybody gone about converting a DOS
fortran program that uses graphics to Windows.  If so can you please E-Mail me
and detail your experiences.

He has ordered the latest version of Fortran from MS that can produce code
under but the windows graphics support I am not too sure about and I doubt
whether it can do a user interface controls (ie the buttons and listboxes and
all that).

I suspect that the latest version of MS Fortran will support simple graphics
but the user interface will have to be done in C/C++ and put in a DLL.  

  Thanks in anticipation,
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: konopka@ils.nwu.edu (Ray Konopka)
Subject: Re: Turbo Pascal for Windows
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:45:05 GMT

In article <+btnxzl.whedon@netcom.com> whedon@netcom.com (Bill Whedon) writes:
stuff delete...

>
>On second thought, just to get your feet wet, VB might not be such a bad
>choice.  It certainly does get you right into Windows, and insulates you from
>much of the nastiness of bits and bytes.  Also, VB in particular, and most
>modern BASICs in general, have evolved to be nearly indistinguishable from
>Pascal, anyhow, so if you can use VB and avoid GOTO and GOSUB/RETURN, hey,
>why not?!  I still recommend C/C++ as the "serious" language, though.  But
>whatever you choose to do,
>Have fun!
>Bill Whedon   whedon@netcom.com
>

Bill Whedon's post will probably start another round of Pascal 
vs. C war.  Comparing Basic with Pascal (i.e. Turbo Pascal) is
totally invalid.  Show me the object oriented programming 
extensions of Visual Basic.  This is not to say that VB is a 
inferior tool.  On the contrary, it is very useful for fast 
prototyping of applications.  On the token, Turbo Pascal for 
Windows is a very "serious" language for Windows programming.
With it, you get access to all of the Windows API calls, as
well as Borland's Object Windows library.  In addition, TPW 
beats the pants of BCC and MSC for compile time.  And with
smart linking, TPW apps are much smaller the their BCC and 
MSC equivalents.  

Now I realize the above statements will spawn responses that BCC and
MSC allow you to optimize your code for speed.  My point is
that TPW should not be tossed aside as a non-serious programming
language.  If you prefer TP, with TPW you do not have to learn
a new programming language to do Windows programming.

Ray Konopka
konopka@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu