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From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Blues lose to Tampa 2-1
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:44:03 GMT



  Blues lose to Tampa Bay 2-1
  ---------------------------

  Former Blues goalie Pat Jablonski stopped 35 shots and came within
seconds of his first career shutout as the Tampa Bay Lightning beat the
Blues 2-1.

  The Blues started the game with a lot of scoring opportunities but 
Jablonski held on as both teams skated to a scoreless first period.
The Lightning struck at 1:51 of the second period. Rob Dimaio who was left
wide open in the slot, scored his first goal of the season to give Tampa 
the 1-0 lead. Tucker assisted. Tampa outshot the Blues 11-9 in that 
second period where neither team had a good scoring chance.

The Blues started the third period very strongly outshooting Tampa 12-0
at one time. Brett Hull fired a couple of rockets but Jablonski made some
great saves. Hull had seven shots on goal. With one minute to play in that
last period, Hull had a partial breakaway but Jablonski robbed him and on
that same play, 12 seconds later Brian Bradley scored into an empty net
which proved to be the game winning goal. With Joseph pulled, the Blues
scored when Craig Janney deflected Jeff Brown's shot from the right point
with 17.4 second left.  The Blues went 144 minutes without a goal until
Janney scored.

The Blues looked awful. They were disorganized and unable to carry the
puck into the offensive zone. They couldn't even get a scoring chance on 
the power play. They were 0-3 for this game and 2-26 for the season.
Hull, Janney, Rich Sutter and other players showed their frustration by
slamming their sticks on the the bench. Hull hasn't scored a goal in 
3 games in a row.  The Blues outshot their opponent for the first time
this season 36-21.

Game's three stars:     1 - Pat Jablonski
                        2 - Rob Dimaio
                        3 - Rob Zamuner

Blues lines:   Lowry - Janney - Hull
               Shanahan - Korolev - Emerson
               Bozon - Bassen - Rich Sutter
               Karamnov - Wilson - Prokhorov

Defensive pairings:  Cavallini-Norwood
                     Brown-Zombo
                     Butcher-Baron

scratches: Giles, Quintal, Chase

Dan Laperriere has the flu, Ron Sutter and Bret Hedican are injured.

The Blues play Minnesota next on thursday at the St. Louis Arena.

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From: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com (n.j.spera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: On ice ads
Keywords: Foodland instead of the quote
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:01:45 GMT
Reply-To: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron, La Habra, CA

In article <Bvt6tq.E1w.1@cs.cmu.edu>, lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
|> I want to ask your opinion, netters.  How do you feel about on ice advertising?
|> 
|> For those of you who saw the KBL or ESPN broadcast of the Pens-Flyers game,
|> you saw that Bob Johnson's quote "It's a great day for hockey" has been
|> removed from the ice.  But what is on the ice (in addition to the Pens 
|> logo) is the word "Foodland" in bright red.  Foodland is a local grocery store
|> chain.
|> 
|> I thought this looked rather tacky.  The boards and the rest of the arena are
|> used for advertising, and that's fine.  There's a lot of revenue to be made
|> that way.  And I'm sure Foodland paid big bucks to get its' name on the ice.
|> And Baldwin said in yesterday's Greensburg Tribune Review that this works out,
|> he'll sell more ice space.  But I think it looks cheesy, and more ads would
|> make it worse.
|> 
|> I guess I'm being old fashioned.  I just think ads don't belong on the ice.
|> How does everyone else feel about this issue?
|> 
|> Lori

Lori - you aren't being old fashioned - I happen to agree  - tacky, tacky
- if anything should be in the ice - Bob Johnson's quote is fine - but
 advertising - as I said tacky - but then I hated it when they put companies
 names around  the inside of Three Rivers Stadium too.
-- 
 Nancy J. Spera, Earth Model Division   # "If I didn't know for a fact that   #
 Chevron Petroleum Technology Co.       #  Elvis was working in a donut shop  #
 P.O. Box 446, La Habra, CA 90633-0446  #  in Beaver Falls, I'd swear he was  #
 Tel: (310) 694-7761  njs@chevron.com   #  driving this truck." Scotty Baldwin#
From: bobw@exucom.com (Bob Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Penalty q. (was:Pens-7 Islanders-3
Date: 13 Oct 92 06:53:00 GMT
Organization: ExuCom MultiMedia Inc.


    If I get this situation right the reason Stevens stayed in the box
is because the teams were still playing 4 on 4 :

Pittsburgh penalty : 2 min.
Islanders penalty  : major & Game  (Hogue)
Pittsburgh penalty expires : 5 on 4 

Any goals scored by either team here would not effect on ice strength
because a major penalty must be served in its entirety.

Pittsburgh penalty : 2 min. Delay of game (Barrasso served by Stevens)
On ice strength : 4 on 4

Again, any goal scored would not effect the on ice strength because
the teams are at even strength.

If the major had expired and Pittsburgh was short handed, then there
was a mistake, but that doesn't happen.

Bob Willer
NHL
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: schmata@camelot.bradley.edu (Peter Stein)
Subject: Re: NHL (Cleveland) Trivia Question
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:28:59 GMT

In <1992Oct13.161746.2441@convex.com> george glover <gglover@convex.COM> writes:


>The Minnesota North Stars were one of the six original expansion teams along
>with Pittsburgh, St.Louis, Philadelphia, Los Angeles and Vancouver.  I  
                                                          ^^^^^^^^^ 
                                                 Actually Oakland; Vancouver
                                                 didn't join the NHL until                                                       the '70-'71 season.


                                                 tv's wisecracking peter
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Mario's Law (was Re: Bob Sweeny becomes a Sabre)
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:08:53 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

v079ptvu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (If Death dies, can I have the job?) writes:
>rwinkel@acsu.buffalo.edu (Robert Winkel) writes...

>Here again I must commend Mr. Winkel...Mario Lemieux does have an impressive
>career performance...true.  But, time can only tell...perhaps a good chop to
>the knee from someone who plays like him would do him some good and bring his
>ego back to the same level as every other good professional hockey player.

>>>Actually, Boston is smiling from ear to ear.
 
>>Why? Because they're close to the cellar of the Adams division?
 
>Hooray Mr. Winkel...good kick to Boston...they need a more solid one to the
>ass!!!

>>>You're welcome ... have fun with Bob Sweeney!
> 
>>We will, while we're riding through the playoffs and Boston is on the golf
>>courses teeing off.
 
>Fore!!!

I'm glad to see that this year, Buffalo will give Pittsburgh a run for their
money.

No, not the hockey teams! The fans! It is Mario's Law of Inverse Intelligence:

The more the team improves, the more stupid fans are attracted to follow the
team.

The above exchange sounds like "Two wild and crazy guys" from SNL, only
dumber. The only thing missing is "American girls with big breasts."


Matt
"jealous Boston fan suffering from Buffalo envy."
(is that anything like...never mind.) 

"Braindead individuals are incapable of accessing USENET." - Bruce Bufalino
                                                             psu.edu, naturally
From: starr@dpe.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Montreal Forum tickets wanted (Oct. 31st)
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:38:51 GMT
Reply-To: starr@dpe.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


WANTED:
-------
Two tickets to the Montreal/NY Rangers game at the Forum on October 31st
(Saturday night). I'm gonna be up in Montreal that weekend, and would love
to catch a game while I'm up there. If anyone has tickets, knows someone
that has tickets, or can get me tickets, I'd appreciate any help!!! (I don't
mind paying a reasonable service charge/premium.)

thanks,
alan

Alan Starr
starr@dpe.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corp.
Tewksbury, MA
508-858-2308 work
603-464-3878 home
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: bouchard@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Marco Bouchard ETUDIANT sept-dec 92)
Subject: Nordiques news (8 oct)
Summary: Owen signed-Sakic captain  
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:24:44 GMT

--> Owen Nolan signed a 5-years contract 4 200 000$CAN (840 k$CAN per year)

--> Joe Sakic is now the captain of the team. He's been chosen by his team-
    mates. Mike Hough and Mike Ricci will be his assistants.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

----------> Marco Bouchard        bouchard@ireq.hydro.qc.ca   <-------------
----------> GO  NORDIQUES  GO !!!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: kenttj@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: WCHA #1 Prediction
Date: 11 Oct 92 07:29:02 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

Will Minnesota be WCHA champs this year?

Even though they lost Duane Derksen, an excellent goalie, I'd like to think
that their experience in post-season along with their returning players will
bring Wisconsin to the top.

Minnesota still is an outstanding team, they'll finish second, at least.
Darby H. is a high-quality player, I wish Wisconsin had him.

As for the North Stars uniforms?
The Minnesota North Stars, a franchise built on hard-working, great-playing
players died when they got the black uniforms.  They became the Minnesota
Stars, a franchise that desperatley wanted a L.A. Kings, L.A. Raiders, I
wish I was tough attitude.

The old green was much better.

						Terry Kent
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: BOSTON NEWS: signings....
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:50:39 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

(daniel.a.miller) writes:

>	I heard that ex-Ohio State Goalie Mike Bales is in line to be 
>back-up to Mr. Moog. Can any Bostonian verify this? I followed Mike Bales
>through out his seasons at OSU and the CCHA, and he was great in the CCHA.
>Even though Ohio State had BIG defensive problems at the time. But my main
>question is: Is Mike Bales of NHL calebur?

Mike was sent down to Providence initially. The Boston brass were impressed
with his play, but they wanted him to get playing time rather than bench
time. Andy Moog will probably play the bulk of the Bruin's early games, so
Mike would languish on the pine. When Andy starts to need a break, or the
team needs a kick in the rear, or if Reggie pulls a muscle, as old goalies
tend to, Mike will be the first call up. Bales fan should know that when
the Bruins had to leave goalies unprotected for the dumpster draft (I mean
waiver draft), Mike was protected, while Delguidice, etc. were not.

Mike looked good from what I saw, but the Bruins have had a hard time 
developing young goalies over the years, so who knows what the future 
holds? Mike might be better of playing in Providence and getting traded
next year. If you look at Craig, Ranford, Moffet, Keans, Delguidice, Blue,
Foster, Parsons (not all drafted by Boston, but all in the system), none
panned out for Boston, but at least Ranford has starred for Edmonton. 
Not an impressive record. The Bruins have made it with traded goalies
developed elsewhere, for the most part. Moog, Lemelin, Peeters, Vachon,etc.
There hasn't been a "homeboy" since Cheevers (well, almost).

Matt
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: dmolsen@athena.mit.edu (D. Matthew Olsen)
Subject: Re: Right handers playing left handed hockey
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:44:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.201303.5016@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden) writes:
|> 
|> 	Ok all you goaltenders out there, I have got a question for you.
|> I play out of net left handed so therefore, when I play in net my
|> stick is in the wrong hand to use easily with the gloves (or the
|> gloves are on the wrong hand to use the stick easily...)  Anyway,
|> my glove hand is only a little inferior on the right hand than it is
|> on the left, and only because I can't afford left handed equipment!
|> Plus, when I play lefty the crouch is very uncomfortable with the
|> stick in my left hand.
|> 
|> 	So what would be easier?  Playing goalie lefty with proper equipment,
|> thereby allowing me to handle the puck easier, or to just stick it out
|> righty and make due with one handed righty passes?  Any other goalies
|> out there experience this?
|> 
|> 	AND, if I can play hockey lefty, why can't I swing a golf club or
|> baseball bat just as easily?  As far as baseball is concerned I tried
|> switch hitting for a whole summer and it was still awkward.  Gotta
|> love these lefty/righty brain things!
|> 
|> Kev

Wait a minute, I'm a righty out of net, and I play righty in goal, but I have
found that my goaltending has taught me how to shoot lefty out of net.  Goalies
traditionally shoot opposite than they would when they skate.  How are you 
shooting the puck?  Are you turning the stick around in your blocker hand 
(incorrect technique) or are you sliding your blocker hand up the shaft and
pushing the center of the stick with your glove hand (proper technique).  That's
why it's important to have the butt end of your stick taped, so that your blocker
hand doesn't fly off the stick when you slide it up the shaft to stickhandle.

As far as playing hockey lefty, I read somewhere that the reason that people can
play opposite handed more easily than in other sports is because the upper hand
is used for finesse and control, whereas the bottom hand is used just for power,
therefore, a righty-shooting-lefty is using his good hand for finesse, and a 
righty-shooting-righty is going for power.

Hope this helps.  If I misunderstood your problem, please correct me.

-- 
Matthew Olsen (Go Whalers!!!)
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)	
Subject: Re: predictions anyone?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:31:09 GMT
Distribution: na
 

In article <1992Oct7.164708.16598@mdd.comm.mot.com> wu@mdd.comm.mot.com (Philip Wu) writes:
>In <1atlsjINNccj@bigboote.WPI.EDU> bab@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Brian Alan Baker) writes:
>
>>    Smythe          Norris             Adams           Patrick
>>  ----------       --------          ---------       -----------
>
>>1. LA              1. Chicago        1. Boston        1. Pittsburgh
>>2. Winnipeg        2. Detroit        2. Montreal      2. Philadelphia
>>3. Edmonton        3. St. Louis      3. Buffalo       3. NY Rangers
>>4. Vancouver       4. Minnesota      4. Quebec        4. New Jersey
>>5. Calgary         5. Toronto        5. Hartford      5. NY Islanders
>>6. San Jose        6. Tampa Bay      6. Ottawa        6. Washington
>
>You really don't believe LA is going to be on top of the Smythe division
>do you??
>
>PHil
>
>
Look at how L.A. played last year and they still came in second; so what
makes you believe they could not come in first this year?  Stranger 
things have happened Phil . . . :-)

Kris
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu

GO KINGS!!



--
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast)
Subject: The LAZER show in Toronto
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:08:05 GMT


If you missed the half-hour lazer show befor last night's Caps-Leafs game, 
you missed a beaut.

There were green lasers, blue lasers, maple leaf-shaped lasers, puck-shaped 
lasers, and even one that looked like a squatty NHL logo laser!

If the leafs go to all that trouble after failing to make the playoffs, 
imagine what peagentry there would be if they won the Cup.

Good thing the laser coordinator doesn't work for the Rangers, since we'd 
never know what he might do following a Cup win.

Warren

And don't blast me about the Caps never winning the Cup.  At least we get a 
return on our parking dollars.
From: tz@ll.mit.edu (Taras Zommers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Bob Sweeny becomes a Sabre
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:02:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: ll.1992Oct13.170206.13410
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <Bw2CqK.n4A@acsu.buffalo.edu> rwinkel@acsu.buffalo.edu (Robert Winkel) writes:
>>Actually, Boston is smiling from ear to ear.

[lots of stuff deleted]

>Why? Because they're close to the cellar of the Adams division?

>We will, while we're riding through the playoffs and Boston is on the golf
>courses teeing off.

If you mean because everyone is close to the cellar at this point in the
season, fine.  But if you think that Boston is a cellar contender you
really have a problem.  Perhaps you forget that it is the Sabres that have
this internal fear of passing the first round of the playoffs.  Considering
that the major change from last year to this one is minus Bob Sweeney and
plus Dmitri Kvartalnov (and hopefully Cam Neely in a month) I don't picture
a jump from Adams Division playoff champs to Adams division cellar.  Let's
get real.

TZ
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: More Thoughts about Flyers-Penguins
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:33:42 MDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Oct8.124758.13672@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden) writes:

> to fall.  The fact that his *body* (the puck hit his arm) knocked in
> the puck is superseded by the fact that he was trying to hit the puck with
> his stick.  By your testimony, all those goals that were counted because
> the players missed the puck on a rebound but happened to go in off their
> skate, should be disallowed.  And as far as Hoggarth is concerned, he

If a player INTENTIONALLY directs the puck into the net with his skate in your
example above, the goal does NOT count. Fedyk made no attempt to avoid hitting
the puck with his arm, and in the view of the replay official, intentionally
knocked it over the line. Thus, no goal, and rightfully so.

								Alan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: 8800740@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARCO RUEST)
Subject: re: beat the pro!
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:37:41 GMT

Don't you think that 276 to 3 is a bit exagerated!

The leafs were loosing 3 to 2 after 2 periods.

			Go Tampa!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: More Thoughts about Flyers-Penguins
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:51:18 MDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Oct7.145811.10957@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr) writes:

> He always looks that way. The first thing you have to remember is that
> big people always look slower than they really are. And he's a BIG boy.
> But Lindros is sorta like a hawk. He just circles around, waiting for
> his opportunity and BAM!!!!!

Good point. Mario Lemieux never looks like he's going all-out either, but he's
so big, he covers a lot of ground with every stride. 

> Can't agree with you here. Fedyk didn't touch it with his stick, and it
> was not clear whether or not the Penguin knocked him over or he was
> diving at it intentionally. On the other hand, it looked to me from the
> angle we got that a small piece of the puck may have crossed the line
> before Fedyk touched it, but the angle we had was not a good one to
> make that call on.

Just a note here. The ENTIRE puck must cross the line in order to be a goal. A
small piece of it would not be enough.

							Alan
From: au021@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roland Behunin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Hockey TV schedules Wandted
Date: 8 Oct 1992 04:03:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I currently have ESPN, Pens, Flames, Tampa Bay, La, Buffalo, Sharks
and Rangers TV schedules.  I would like any others anybody has.
I will be posting a list of whre to look on the different satillites for
backhuals in a day or two.  Hoepfully
by then I will also have a listing of what games will be broadcast in the different cities.

roland
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From: fascetti@isvax.lmsc.lockheed.com (ISVAX  7740 FASCETTI      25627)
Subject: Re: On ice ads
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: Foodland instead of the quote
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 17:38:19 GMT

In article <Bvt6tq.E1w.1@cs.cmu.edu>, lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes...
>I want to ask your opinion, netters.  How do you feel about on ice advertising?
> 
>For those of you who saw the KBL or ESPN broadcast of the Pens-Flyers game,
>you saw that Bob Johnson's quote "It's a great day for hockey" has been
>removed from the ice.  But what is on the ice (in addition to the Pens 
>logo) is the word "Foodland" in bright red.  Foodland is a local grocery store
>chain.
> 
>I thought this looked rather tacky.  The boards and the rest of the arena are
>used for advertising, and that's fine.  There's a lot of revenue to be made
>that way.  And I'm sure Foodland paid big bucks to get its' name on the ice.
>And Baldwin said in yesterday's Greensburg Tribune Review that this works out,
>he'll sell more ice space.  But I think it looks cheesy, and more ads would
>make it worse.
> 
>I guess I'm being old fashioned.  I just think ads don't belong on the ice.
>How does everyone else feel about this issue?
> 
>Lori
I agree completely.  I think they should get rid of it,  but I 
doubt that they will.  Is the Civic Arena the only place this 
exists??

mike

> 
>