From: poser@vxdesy.desy.de (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE)
Subject: Re: WITZBOLDE
Followup-To: talk.bizarre,soc.culture.german
Summary: CARASSO a valuable member of the USENET community, film at 11
Reply-To: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronensynchrotron, Experiment ZEUS
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:20:07 GMT

In article <x46mm=m.rdc@netcom.com>,
carassso@netcom.com (OSSARAC DIVAD REGOR) writes:

Now, Roger, You're overdoing it a little. You see, me lad, I don't have
You in my killfile. 

> 
> THIS IS MY FAVORITE POST OF THE WEEK.
> I DO NOT UNDERSTAND GERMAN,
> YET I FEEL I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF IT:

Obviously a somewhat mistaken assumtion. Since Your grilf is about to
learn German, why don't You have her translate it?

> IN SOC.CULTURE.GERMAN Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de writes:

[lots a things removed]

Roger, You misunderstand me. Actually I posit that there is a need for
the likes of You in the interstiches of USENET. Let me illustrate that
with a little analogy:

  Down in south eastern Germany, in Baden and Suebia, there is each year
  just before the fast-period before Easter a period of revelry and
  foolishness called Kareneval or Fasnet (Fastnacht). Pepeople dress up
  strangely, act funnily, get drunk a lot and seem to try to get a lot
  of things out of their systems.

  Some people come together in clubs to wear what is called a "Haes", a
  costume, often with a carved wooden mask, which comes with certain
  distinguishing accoutrements and attributes. There are the
  "Schwarzwald Hexe", which dress up as prototypical witches and
  brandish a twig-broom, there are the "Wilde Manne" of Villingen, who
  carry a stick with a pigbladder, and there are many more.

  During the revels, processions and other happenings during Fasnet,
  "Haestraeger" of the two clubs I mentioned go out and perform pranks,
  jests, viscious lampooning, outright aggravation and sometimes mild
  phyical assault on the onlookers and bystanders, belabouring them with
  their brooms and pig-bladders. This is expected of them, there is an
  unspoken acceptance of this behaviour and people show their
  acquescience by remaining where they can be butt of such hilarity.

  After Fasnet is over, the Haes are quietly put away until the next
  year. Usually no bad blood comes from normally not quite acceptable
  behaviour during Fasnet.

  However, during that time the existence of these Haestrager serves to
  remind us of a couple of things. For one, there is a dark side to any
  human, which enjoys to inflict suffering on other human beings, and be
  it only in a relatively benign form. For the other, there must be a
  time for any human being, when it can let itself go, and thus there
  must be a zone of freedom, where such is possible. For a third, an
  anarchy, a nominally unruled and unruly assemblage of people such as
  the Fasnet community, needs to be reminded every once in a while, that
  in anarchy there is a moment of insecurity and disquiet, and that
  exactly those moments confirm the fact of the freedom from rule.

So, Roger, where do You come into the picure, after all this wordy
discourse? You are like these Haestrager, an outrageous buffoon, a clown,
an amoral jester on USENET. You belabour people with the equivalent of a
pig-bladder, prancing around and preening, expecting adulation and
recognition for Your exploits. You exercise Your stereotyping and Your
bigotry on the net, but You do that with a certain naive quality which
only underscores the apparition of quaint buffoonery, which I, at least,
find amusing.

The net is the nearest thing to Horkheimer's "herrschaftsfreien Dialog"
(nonhierarchical discourse is as near as I can make it), an anarchy, where
all of us are equal, or nearly so, and where discourse takes place
without inherent hirarchical considerations. Your prancing only
reinforces and underscores this point, since You would not be able to
exist in a regulated environment.

No, Roger, You've provided me with much amusement, and I wouldn't want
to miss it. I just gave some innocent bystanders, who have not been
cognizant of the rules, the wherewithal to shuffle out of the way.

> )4) Und es gibt CARASSO. Hierzu sollte jeder der wissen will, wer das ist
>                 ^^^^^^^

Yup, translated: And there is CARASSO. Roger, my boy, You really are a
net.celebrity.

> )   Roger David Carasso ist ein Clown, ein Jeck, ein soziopathischer Spaszvogel.
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Roger David Carasso is a clown, a buffoon, a sociopathic jester. Do You
contest that?

> ZIEG HEIL!
> ZIEG HEIL!
> ZIEG HEIL!

Hail goat? Roger, my lad, why don't You just try to learn the epithets
that You attempt to employ?

> Roger David Carasso,        please me ask and I will give it,

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