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From: md@sco.COM (Michael Davidson)
Subject: Re: xv v2.0 Color Usage
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:39:44 GMT


In article <1992Oct13.192954.5825@burns.jpl.nasa.gov> hand@spc9.jpl.nasa.gov (Kolin Hand) writes:
>
>When I load either a GIF or a JPEG image, the image loads with a
>message saying "256 colors found (61 unique)."  Or something like
>that.  Well, it appears as if xv is using only those 61 colors when
>displaying the image.  How do I coerce xv to utilize all 256 colors?
>As a note, I went into the "color editor" and observed the "color matrix"
>was sparsely represented with only, you guessed it, 61 colors.  All of
>the others were black.  
>
The message from xv means that the picture contains 256 colors only 61 of
which are uniquely representable by your display. This is not too surprising
since you have an SVGA card that only has 6 bits of resolution for each of
the red green and blue components of each color while a GIF file color map has 
8 bits of resolution, therefore some colors that are distinct in the GIF file
will map onto the same color on your display.

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,gnu.gcc.help
From: jhc@fang.att.com (John H. Carter)
Subject: X11R5/gcc-2.2.2 linking problems - Undefined symbol _alloca
Followup-To: gnu.gcc.help
Keywords: X11R5, gcc, alloca
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 16:07:02 GMT


I am attempting to compile X11R5 under SunOS 4.1.2 with gcc-2.2.2.  I
applied the patches supplied with gcc to the X config files.  I did not
set Gcc2BuildLibs.  The compile
went normally until it got to the link phase for some of the utilities and
clients.  There the link failed with "Undefined symbol: _alloca".  This 
happened on client/editres, client/listres, and others.  I'm sure this must
be a config option that I missed or something silly that I've overlooked.

If anyone has any clues, please email.

Thanks,

John


-- 
John Carter - Orlando, Fl.
Work: jhc@fang.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: gml4410@ggr.co.UK (Lack Mr G M)
Subject: xterm input
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:59:08 GMT

     Could  someone please explain why, in xterm, if I place the pointer
over the scrollbar then any input I type is ignored.   This  is  despite
the fact that the xterm cursor is still a block, not hollow. 

     Can  this  be easily change so that the state of the cursor (filled
versus hollow) *accurately* reflects whether the xterm is going  to  get
my keyboard input? 


-------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
*not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else."

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r3
From: ramey@csc.ti.com
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X11.5 xdm chooser app defaults
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:38:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: jello.RAMEY.92Oct13163804
Reply-To: ramey@csc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Originator: ramey@jello

In article <1992Oct13.194745.27197@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> scl@sasha.acc.Virginia.EDU (Steve Losen) writes:

   Does anyone have a decent app defaults file for the X11.5 chooser?
   When I use the distributed one, the scrolled list of hosts is only
   big enough to show one host.  I have tried poking about with
   the app defaults file with no luck (my attempts either did nothing
   or made things worse).

I couldn't figure out how to make the scrolling region larger, but I
changed this resource to make the scroll bar go away entirely (so all
hosts are listed):

Chooser*viewport.allowVert:   false

This works for us because we don't have very many xdm servers
configured.  I don't know what it would do if you had too many hosts to
fit on one screen.

Joe Ramey
<ramey@csc.ti.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: nigelc@cognos.com (Nigel Campbell)
Subject: Xgif on SCO problem
Keywords: SCO, confused, novice
Organization: Cognos Incorporated, Ottawa CANADA
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 03:45:22 GMT


I am venturing into the land of images/X11 and am a complete novice
seeking some advice. I have successfully used/altered xgif by 
John Bradley on HPUX, MIPS/ULTRIX sending my displays to a SUN IPX. I then
moved the same source to SCO UNIX and the program no longer
displays a complete image ( I get say the first 1/5 of the image
displayed followed by white ). I have tried the original program
without my mods (access to BLOBs in InterBase) and get the same
effect. Anyone have any ideas ? Eg. I forgot an option on a compile etc.

I would prefer to use this program vs motifgif which I found on
the SCO box as it seems to not cause the weird flashing of colours
on the screen as you move the pointer etc.

Excuse my ignorance.
-- 
Nigel Campbell          Voice: (613) 738-1338 ext 3016    P.O. Box 9707
Cognos Incorporated       FAX: (613) 738-0002             3755 Riverside Dr.
Database and Connectivity MCI: nigel campbell || 307-4729 Ottawa, Ontario
UUnet: nigelc@cognos.COM                                  CANADA  K1G 3Z4
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: netdraw@cs.curtin.edu.au (P. Musca - B. Allen)
Subject: pixmaps <> extracting data
Summary: I need to extract the pixel values from a pixmaps
Keywords: pixmaps
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:33:27 GMT

I need to extract the pixel values from a pixmap. 
ie. ignore all the crap at the top of the pixmap and just take out the hex numbers
so I can write them out to a file ....... the file is a postscript dump of a bitmap image.

Please help I am very frustrated....

				Peter Musca 

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netdraw@lillee.cs.curtin.edu.au			Perth, Western Australia.

Project: Netdraw, X-Windows, Ethernet & Fibre Optic Network Drawing Package
Team:	 Brad Allen & Peter Musca.
From: lecom@slhp1.epfl.ch (Claude Lecommandeur)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: any info about rooms under X ?
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:45:17 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <BvvI8G.EpE@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, goyle@tortie.me.uiuc.edu (Vipin Goyle) writes:
|> hi,
|> 
|> is there a room window manager for X, similar to the HP-VUE window
|> manager? i'd like to be able to have multiple rooms (each with a set
|> of windows) which i could change to just by clicking on a button.
|> if you know about any such program please mail me about it, and where
|> i can find it!
|> i'm running a sun sparc II with openwindows v 3, X11R4 and X11R5.
|> 
|> thanks!
|> 
|> -vipin
|> 
|> goyle@tortie.me.uiuc.edu
|> --

   Have a look at ctwm : export.lcs.mit.edu:/ctwm-1.3.tar.Z.
It is an extension to twm with features similar to HP-VUE and much more.
also, ctwm-2.0 will be out very soon.

  Claude.

-- 


                    Claude Lecommandeur
                    Service Informatique Central
                    Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
                    1015 LAUSANNE (SWITZERLAND)
                    E-Mail : lecom@sic.epfl.ch
                    Tel : (41 21) 693-22-97
From: xappeal@xtreme.sublink.org (X Appeal Info)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X for PCs
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:17:59 GMT
Organization: Xtreme s.a.s. - Livorno, Italy

nickn@mummy.agsm.unsw.OZ.AU (Nick_Nikov) writes:

> I have heard of a product 'xappeal' which is an X product for PCs.

Yes, you are right. :-)

> Does any one know of it and what it requires such as which
> TCP/IP kernel does it need etc...

No TCP kernel is needed. It just works on top of any Class 1 (Ethernet
like) packet driver).

> The problem is economics to a large extent. If buying the commercial
> products with commercial kernels then I am half way to a workstation 
> with more grunt than a PC (currently installed).

You can do your economic evaluations by looking at Daniel Jack McCoy's
list of non-Unix X servers, posted a few days ago; it is available also
on export.lcs.mit.edu, in the contrib directory.


Best Regards

Giovanni Novelli
Xtreme s.a.s. - Livorno, Italy
xappeal@xtreme.sublink.org
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: kent@uux.eglin.af.MIL (Robert Kent)
Subject: (none)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:36:39 GMT


    I cannot seem to get xmodmap to assign a sequence of keysyms to a

keycode via XChangeKeyboardMapping.  No matter how many keysyms are 

specified, only the first one is assigned to the specified keycode.

Does anyone know how to resolve this problem?
From: mallen@carla.Wichita (mallen)
Newsgroups: att.windows.x,comp.windows.x
Subject: Benchmarks on Character vs X Windows mode applications
Keywords: xwindows
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:54:23 GMT
Organization: wichita

Would anyone happen to have any information on repaint times for applications
written in character vs x windows mode?  Also what would is the slowest modem
baud rate that could be used if I were to dial into an x windows system?

Please email me directly.

Thanks in advance.
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:17930 comp.terminals:1248 comp.sources.wanted:4690
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.terminals,comp.sources.wanted
Subject: Trying to view a VT100 file from xterm
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:38:19 GMT
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Followup-To: comp.windows.x
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.


I was wondering if anyone had any auxillary tools to view VT100 escape sequenced
files from xterm.  I can cat it to the screen, but things flow by so 
fast that I am unable to read the text.  Since all I have is is this data
stream, I thought perhaps someone might have written a tool that would read
a 'page' of escape sequences, pause, then print the next page, etc.  The
controlling event could perhaps be encountering the clear to page or clear
to region sequences...
-- 
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Same Mbox: BITNET: lvirden@cas  INET: lvirden@cas.org
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec
From: mjr@hussar.dco.dec.com (Marcus J. "Buddy can you spare a clue?" Ranum)
Subject: Re: X Under Windows NT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Washington ULTRIX Resource Center
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:57:47 GMT

rct@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:

>What they don't know is that, if they thought learning DOS was tricky, just
>wait until NT hits the fan. The salesman/papers/magazines haven't quite
>explained this side of the story to them.

	Are you speaking from experience here? Or wishful thinking?

	When I saw/used NT, I found it much easier to grasp even the systems
management stuff than UNIX. It took me years and years to learn to really
make UNIX machines stand up and dance, but I think that anyone with a few
clues could set up an NT clump.

	Sure, NT is more complex than DOS - but as far as UNIX is concerned,
I'm reminded of the story of the two hunters who were being chased by a
bear...  One pants, "It's no use, we can't outrun it" and the other replies,
"I don't have to outrun the bear. I only have to outrun *you*"

mjr.
-- 
	It is important to focus on writing software that is "adequate."
Having one's software be "good" or even "excellent" is over-rated. If
"good" were necessary or even important, DOS would not be the de facto
standard operating system.                          -notebooks of a heretic
From: bobmcg@CASTLE.ED.AC.UK (Bob McGonigle)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.announce
Subject: Postscript to European X User Group Conference
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:11:21 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

The recently held European X User Group conference and exhibition was
resounding success.  This is the fourth year the event has been held, and X
Windows continues to gain new ground and attract more players.

The exhibition was well-attended, with exhibitors offering a wide range of
X terminals, software development tools, training programmes and
connectivity products.  Exhibitors included NCD, Tektronics, V1, VisionWare
and IST.

Speakers addressed issues such as X for conferencing and group working;
current technological trends; X over slow lines; display PostScript and
graphics within X Windows.

Continuing the EXUG policy of inviting big names from the world of X, this
year three US-based experts headed the programme - Doug Young, Oliver Jones
and Bob Scheifler.  The programme included presentations by over 20
speakers, from eight countries.

Pre-conference tutorials proved a major attraction.  Subjects on offer this
year included 'Using C++ with Motif', Debugging X Programs', and a course
designed for newcomers to X - 'From Awareness to Understanding'.

The strength of interest shown in this year's conference has given a boost
to EXUG plans for 1993, including a rolling programme of tutorials,
seminars and workshops, to be held in centres in the UK and other EC
countries.

This year's proceedings are available for 30 pounds (inc.  P&P) from
EXUG, PO Box 458, Cambridge, CB3 8SD, Great Britain.  Payment by cheque
or credit card. 

For further information about the European X User Group and coming
events, telephone +44 (0)223 426534 or fax +44 (0) 223 420251. 
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:17896 comp.sys.dec:5466
From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.dec
Subject: Re: Why NT will win (was Re: X Under Windows NT)
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:12:44 GMT
Organization: American Software Development Corp., West Babylon, NY

In article <1992Oct12.134659.18@sycraft.com> ken@sycraft.com (Ken Richardson) writes:
>Technical advantages aside, the fact that NT is *the* upgrade path for
>MS-Windows is quite enough to make it a brilliant success.  No flames from
>OS/2 advocates, please.

Gee... I just read a Datamation article that said (based on their
survey) 7% of those companies whose primary computing platform are PCs
have converted their environments to Windows.  Another 9% have partially
converted (e.g., not every application runs under Windows).  Another 11%
are only considering what to do with Windows while the rest will wait
until "the next generation," which Datamation described as OS/2, Windows
NT (which still stands for Not There!), and Univel Unix.

That being the case, who is upgrading?  Many are not even playing on
this ball field and many just don't care!

Which reminds me, I found this in comp.windows.x and I see it is
cross-posted to comp.sys.dec.  Maybe this should be moved to
comp.windows.ms, or at least out of comp.windows.x since it is no longer
a discussion about an X-related topic?!
-- 
scott barman			| <This space intentionally left blank>
scott@asd.com			|
 (I can barely speak for myself, you expect me to speak for my employer??)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: lora@askinc.ASK.COM (Lora Shirley)
Subject: OSF/Motif Meeting :October 21
Keywords: OSF Motif X11
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:52:38 GMT


              OSF/Motif Developers Meeting: October 21

  Please join us at a jointly sponsored meeting of the OSF/Motif
  Developers Group and Drinking Society and the BayCHI OSF/Motif BOF.
  The meeting is at 7:00 PM on Wednesday, October 21

  For this meeting we welcome Luke Teyssier, who will present "Using
  ADA with the X11 Windowing System ".  Luke is a software engineer
  at ESL, a subsidiary of TRW, where he has been tasked with developing 
  GRAMMI, Generated Reusable Ada Man Machine Interface.  GRAMMI is used
  for creating X11 based Graphical User Interfaces in Ada.

  In use at ESL since 1989,  GRAMMI has been adopted as the user interface
  tool of choice by over 30 software engineers.  While the cost to
  train all of these engineers in X11 would be prohibitive, GRAMMI
  allows Ada programmers with only a cursory knowledge of X11 to
  create powerful user interfaces with  minimal coding.  GRAMMI is
  scheduled to be released commercially by the end of 1992.
  
  The meeting location is at NCD's facilities, 339 N. Bernardo in 
  Mountain View, directly off of the Central Expressway.
 


  About the Santa Clara Valley OSF/Motif groups:
  *********************************************

  The Silicon Valley OSF/Motif Developers and Drinking Society and
  BayCHI's OSF/Motif BOF (Birds-of-a-Feather) group are two Bay
  area groups that hold monthly meetings to discuss Motif
  development issues.  The topics discussed include: releases and
  features of the Motif toolkit, X11, UI builders, and products
  developed using Motif.

  Meetings are held on the third Wednesday of the month, at 7pm at
  NCD's facility at 339 N. Bernardo St. in Mountain View.  North
  Bernardo Street is located on the Central Expressway, between
  Mary and Castro Streets.

  The meetings are open to the public.  There are no membership or
  admission fees.

  A joint planning committee schedules the meetings.  If you would like to
  discuss a topic of interest to this group, please contact Lora Shirley
  415-335-5288.


  Upcoming Meeting Dates:
  ********************************************

  Wednesday, October 21:  "Using ADA with the X11 Windowing System"

  Wednesday, November 18:  OSF/Motif Developers and Drinking Revival!!
                           (Location TBA)

  December:   No meeting
  
  Wednesday, January 20, 1993

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.ultrix
From: osyjm@cs.montana.edu (Jaye Mathisen)
Subject: Re: MIT X11R5 on a DECstation 5000 with an HX card
Keywords: MIT X11R5 DECstation 5000 HX
Organization: CS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:21:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.201931.7704@ornl.gov> forrest@esdhof.esd.ornl.gov writes:
>I may have missed the answer to this question if it was posted:
>
>Does the MIT distribution of X11R5 create a usable server for use with
>the DEC HX color (1280x1024) card on DECstations?

I have a dual 19" color monitor HX setup on a 5000/240.  Works OK, but it's
not too quick.  Apparently it can't take advantage of some of the hardware
gizwhizzers in the HX card.

If you can survive with Xws (R4) and R5 clients, that seems to be the best
combo...
-- 
 Jaye Mathisen, COE Systems Manager                (406) 994-4780
 410 Roberts Hall,Dept. of Computer Science
 Montana State University,Bozeman MT 59717	osyjm@cs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: toml@marvin.Solbourne.COM (Tom LaStrange)
Subject: Re: "paged" vs. panned virtual desktop
Reply-To: toml@ParcPlace.COM
Organization: ParcPlace Boulder
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:15:06 GMT

In article <9210131517.AA26715@mtesol>, sinan@Mtesol.boeing.COM (Sinan Karasu) writes:
|> > Is there a window manager or other mechanism to effect a virtual
|> > desktop that is "paged" rather than panned? The idea is to have
|> > a control w/ eg. 3x3 boxes that represent 9 subdivisions of the virtual
|> > desktop. Clicking one of the boxes displays the corresponding part of
|> > the desktop on the physical screen. The pages should be continuous (ie.
|> > a window could be between pages), and ideally the 3x3 array would reflect
|> > in miniature the sizes and positions of all objects on the desktop.
|> > 
|> > I have tried ctwm, but its pages are discrete, and the control consists
|> > only of colored buttons.
|> > 
|> > Any pointers appreciated.
|> > 
|> > 
|> > -- 
|> > CSNET	jbthiel@cse.ogi.edu
|> > UUCP    ...{sun,tektronix,verdix}!ogicse!jbthiel
|> > 
|> swm (Solbourne Window Manager ? ; Simple Window Manager?) does exactly that, but
|> I don't know if the sources are available or not. I don't know Tom LaStrange's
|> (of twm fame) involvement with it but he was at Solbourne when it was done
|> (seems to be at ParcPlace now).
|> 
|> Sinan


I did indeed do most of the development on swm and am still
occasionally fixing bugs.  swm supports something called "root panels"
that allow you to create panels of buttons that just sit on the root.
You can tie any window manager command to these buttons, hence you
could move around the virtual desktop by clicking on these buttons
rather than using the panner or the keyboard.  See my USENIX paper
in the Summer 1990 proceedings.

Regarding my now working for ParcPlace, the entire software business
unit of Solbourne was acquired by ParcPlace.  Everyone in the group now
works for them and ParcPlace now owns all the technology we developed
at Solbourne, i.e., OI, uib, pdb, spdb/NeD, and swm.

I didn't change jobs, just the company I do the job for :-)

--
Tom LaStrange        toml@ParcPlace.COM
From: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ( Hari Seldon ... psychohistorian )
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Is there a DESQview/X group
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:22:56 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <GJAMES.157@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA> GJAMES@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA (GJames) writes:

>I am looking for a DESQview/X (by quaterdeck)  news group???

comp.os.msdos.desqview
>Thanks
bill pociengel
--
llbi locgeenpi " i'm a little confused right now"
From: dal@mdavcr.mda.ca (Dale Lutz)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: "paged" vs. panned virtual desktop
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:32:37 GMT
Organization: MacDonald Dettwiler, 13800 Commerce Parkway, Richmond, BC, Canada  V6V 2J3

There is also something called "olvwm" which gives a very nice virtual
desktop if you are running/have access to Sun's open windows release 3.0

Dale
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.open-look
From: yonder@netcom.com (Christopher Russell)
Subject: Automating/recording and X-session..
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:44:52 GMT


My question is:

Is it possible to automate X "activities"?  What I mean is, I want to
be able to write a script, or record a session, where I can do things
in multiple windows that normally require the use of the mouse and
keyboard to open and close windows, hit buttons, etc.

Is a program available that can do this?  It would also be great if
somehow the scripts could make decisions based on say text that
appears in an xterm window, etc.

Is this all very vague, or what?

If no such program is already available, could I write my own program
that could inject my own data into the stream of data X uses for
mouse/keyboard events, and simulate mouse/keyboard input?

Obviously my X-knowledge index is low, but I have others here that I
can take input to and work with them towards this goal.

Note: I'm running on a Sun SPARC IPC, with X11R4.

Thanks....
 

-- 
Christopher L. Russell (yonderboy)  Phone: (408)378-9078 Campbell,CA
yonder@netcom.COM or clr40@sim.mfg.amdahl.com or chrisr@leland.stanford.edu

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: thorsen@stc.nato.int (Einar C. Thorsen)
Subject: Sharing read/write colorcells
Keywords: colormaps, colorcells, XStoreColor, XAllocColor
Organization: SHAPE Technical Centre, NL
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:11:05 GMT

We have an application that allocates the top half of the color table (128
to 256) for read/write color access.  We would like to be able to share some 
of these color cells with another application running on the same server 
that also uses these colors. So far, we have only been able to display the 
same color by having duplicate entries in the color table.  Does anybody
know how we can force the applications to share the same read/write entries?

Thanks, 

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