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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: emtehAneh rAnandegi #1.... [sci-poster]
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:33:57 GMT
Organization: SCI Friends & Family, Inc.
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emtehAneh rAnandegi #1:


1.  mafhoomeh rangeh ghermezeh cherAgheh rAhnamA-ee cheest?

       alef -  ehteeyAt va kam nemoodaneh sor-at ast.
       beh  -  tavaghof va eesteh kAmel ast.
       dAl  -  harkat va hagheh oboor ast.

2.  hengAmeh pArkeh otomobeel dar kenAreh kheeyAbAn hagheh
    taghadom bA vaseeleyeh naghlee-ye-ee ast keh?

       alef -  zoodtar beh mahal reseedeh bAshad.
       beh  -  bA harkat beh jelo mashgooleh pArk kardan bAshad.
       dAl  -  zemneh harkat beh aghab mashgooleh pArk kardan bAshad.

3.  gharAr dAdaneh vaseeleyeh naghleeyeh dar ekhteeyareh shakhseh
    fAghedeh govAhinAmeh?

       alef -  mamnoo ast.
       beh  -  mojAz ast.
       dAl  -  agar mahArat dAshteh bAshad mAneh-ee nadArad.



Let's hear your answers.

Nazi
 
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From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: AIDS IN IRAN  [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 16 Dec 1992 02:14:53 GMT
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on the topic of curbing the aids epidemic babak writes:

>
>>Finally, maybe a High tax (some where around %90 of income) on all the
>>un-married people over 21 could force our people to lower their expectations 
>>and get married.  This money should be returned to them if they get married
>>within 3 years.  Off course, this might lead to high divorce rate.  Therefor,
>>the marriages that last less than 10 years, should return all the previous
>>years tax reduction and repay signal tax rate (%90) for all those years.
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>>Also, other social privileges of a signal person might be subject to
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>>suspension, such as drivers license, ..., if this does not reduce the
>>signal rate over 21 by  %90.  I guess, someone should become bad again,
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>>to save our society.
				 
once again, youre signals are all crossed... may they rest in peace. 

to have incredibly insensitive and impractical opinions about the
victims of such a devastating disease is one thing, to admit to them in
public is another... you should try and increase your understanding of basic
human rights, aids, and how aids gets spread.  increasing the 'signal'
to noise ratio of your articles a little would be good too.

Anne Ominous writes:

>MR. BS, PLEASE DO NOT RUN FOR PRESIDENCY!

why not!!!  if quayle can spell potato, potatoe, and become the vice 
president of united states, babak will probably win the presidency 
in an unprecedented landslide!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: beheshty@lmsc.lockheed.com (Freshteh   beheshty)
Subject: Re: Tehran.stanford.edu is messed up!
Organization: LMSC
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:14:40 GMT

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In article <wJawVB2w165w@halcyon.com>, satan-@halcyon.com (satan666) writes:
> 
> 
>  I tried FTPing to tehran.stanford.edu and it won't let me in!
> Can someone please post something on what to do?
> 
> Satan.
> 
> 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: satan <satan666@halcyon.com>
Subject: !!!satan!!!
Originator: bbs@halcyon.com
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:01:39 GMT

Hello! It's me! Satan! If you don't remember why you haven't heard me for 
a long while, it's because some koskeshes, probaly Khanem Javad and the 
rest of his jendah's, tattled telled to the sysadm that they were scared 
to death of me. These namards act all tough, but in reality they're just
a bunch of pussies. For my revenge, I will pretend to be one of them and 
write articles for them, in good taste of course. Ya right! 
Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Ha!

 "I'll be back."
           Terminator, Terminator I.

 Satan.
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Let's conratulate her...
Date: 12 Dec 1992 05:47:09 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


BOSNIA AID BECOMES A PERSONAL MISSION 
 
December 10,1992 
 
BY ALEX TIZON 
 
Seattle Times 
 
 SEATTLE - A newspaper story about war atrocities in the 
former Yugoslavia has inspired a Seattle-area woman to drop 
everything, collect relief supplies and deliver them in 
person to needy refugees in the war-torn region~ 
 Susan Conley of Lake Forest Park will fly out of Seattle-
Tacoma International Airport this morning with 10 boxes of 
winter coats, boots, toys and antibiotics. 
 Her destination: a rural village in  Bosnia-Herzegovina  
named Mijkovici, which has been occupied and razed by 
Serbian soldiers, leaving 49 farming families to live among 
the ruins. 
 "l've never done anything like this," said Conley, 29, a 
communications specialist for an electronics company in 
Redmond, Wash . , east of Seattle . "I am a very methodical 
person. I live a very planned life . " 
 C;onley said she had been following the developments in the 
former Yugoslavia, feeling bad for the land ~nd the people 
she had visited as a tourist two years ago. Then, a little 
over a week ago, she picked up a copy of the Seattle Times, 
which had a front-page story about rape victims in Bosnia. 
 The article's description of one victim, a 60-year-old 
woman.~, who had been gang-raped by Serbian soldiers and 
left devastated and hopeless, especially moved Conley. 
 "It made me want to help her somehow, give her something, 
anything so that she would see there is still love in the 
world." 
 She dug up a flier she had picked up in a church in 
Scottsdale, Ariz., soliciting aid for Bosnian and Croatian 
victims. She called the number and was told four people from 
Scottsdale were leaving for Mijkovici, and that she could go 
with them. 
 "The moment I told her 1 would go 1 was panicked," Conley 
said. "1 was thinking, `What have 1 gotten myself into?' " 
She said she has felt every emotion, including out-and-out 
fear. 
 She felt that fear: most recently while getting travel 
inoculations. her doctor asked if she wanted to borrow his 
bulletproof vest. She said yes. 
 The outpouring of help and support from friends and family 
has helped calm the fear, Conley said. She even managed to 
persuade a friend to come along on her eight-day relief 
mission. 
 "People think we're crazy, but that's all right," said John 
Bucy, 31 , a computer-software engineer from Renton, Wash. 
 Conley and Bucy will take time off work and pay for their 
trip, which is estimated to cost about $2,600 each, with 
their savings. 
 "I won't be buying Christmas presents this year," Conley 
said. 

Xref: sparky soc.culture.iranian:11027 soc.culture.pakistan:18405
From: GS#0@lafibm.lafayette.edu (GS#0000)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: The refuge of scoundrels (was Re: Muslims - First Line Of Actio
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:19:15 GMT
Organization: Lafayette College
Originator: news@lafcol

In article <dbose.724541716@zephyr.aem.umn.edu> dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
drivels on and on ad nauseum:
>  TO ALL PAKIS
>   Abey ,
> 
>[....lots of slober wiped out for the sake of hygene and brevity....]
>
>  HAQUIKAT KO PEHCHAAN AUR RAM KA NAM LE
>  bol mere saath :
>    JAI SRI RAM
>    JAI SRI KRISHNA
>    HAR HAR MAHADEV
>
>    HINDUSTAN ZINDABAD !!!!

"Patriotism is the last resort of the scoundrel" -- G.B.Shaw.
To which we can safely add " -- and religion is the penultimate".

Cheers - Shekhar                     govi@lafayette.edu
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re; Women's Position and Pesar Amoo [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 17 Dec 1992 20:29:40 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
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To: sci-anon-poster 



<saied@cwis.unomaha.edu> (Saied*), in reply to Ben Mahjoor writes:

>For the record (and for the benefit of people such as Mr.
>Mahjoor), the rationale for statements such as the above
>was that an army that openly fires on people and kills as
>many as 7,000 in one place (Jaleh Sq.) cannot be trusted.
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Are you sure? Everyone knows that the actual figure is
	much smaller than that. Exaggerations like this sound
	very familiar!!! 


>you must continue your discussion with the complementary
>statements by Mr. Rajavi. The Mojahedin continously
>insisted that the Shah's army must be disintegrated and
>a new army be re-struactured by the revolution forces so
>that it can trusted.
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Trusted by who? Hezbollah, MojAhedin or the nation?

	Long live our Persian homeland

	ShahrAm
 
   
 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: AIDS in Iran
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:32:17 GMT

In <1992Dec18.044936.22203@wam.umd.edu> ahriman@wam.umd.edu (Salman Rushdie) writes:

>In article <sehari.724625660@class1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>>
>>Rushdi's bounty is not being offered by the government, it is being offered
>>by 1000,000s people world wide, which by free will paid  few dollars
>>to this particular reason.  The government has nothing to do with it.
>>
>Where ever it came from don't you think there are muslims who need that money
>Even if you follow Islamic ideology, it would be better to help the needy than
>set up a bounty for the murder of a man who "expressed his opinions" (sound
>familiar, I wonder who said that on SCI recently)

Why do you think you know better than those people.  That is there money,
and they probably know how to spend it better than you.  Besides, neither
me nor the Iranian government has anything to do with the money.  It's all
part of private organization, as I read in several news articles.  I am not
sure if the organization is located in Iran, to begin with. 

  --Babak
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: nbadie@rd.hydro.on.ca (Navid Badie)
Subject: Re: Counting Heads
Organization: "Ontario Hydro - Research Division"
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:04:34 GMT

RMODARR@auvm.american.edu (Reza Modarres) writes:
 
:    Hi folks,
: 
:        There are thousands of Iranians outside of the country, many in the
:        US of A. I am not sure how many and where the greatest concentration
:        is. Perhaps, Californian and Washington area are in the forfront in the
:        US. My question simply is: what are the rough counts?
:        I believe DC area has somewhere between 100 to 150 thousand Iranians.
:        Any estimates in your neck of the woods?

In my experience, Iranians always exaggerate the number of their compatriots
who live in their area. It seems that people think it is a matter of prestige 
to have more Iranians live where one lives. I have heard some outrageous 
numbers:

- In Houston someone told me there are 500,000 Iranians in Houston alone!
- My relatives in LA routinely tell me there are 2 million Iranians in
  California, 1 million of which are in LA area.
- In Toronto, estimates range from 25,000 to 100,000 (the latter is the
  highest I have heard for Toronto, but I guess if you ask enough people, 
  you can come up with even higher estimates.) I think the correct number
  must be in the 25,000 to 40,000 range.
- In 1987, someone told me that the DC area and Arlington held between
  40,000 and 50,000 Iranians. That number seems to have gone up
  considerably :-)

: RezA

Agha RezA to ke statistician hasti, lotfan baraamoon figure-outesh kon dige!

Cheers,
Navid 
nbadie@rd.hydro.on.ca
From: mahin@reg.triumf.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: politics
Keywords: politics
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:43:00 GMT
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Here's something to help you get through these last days of exams.
You've probabaly heard it before, but what the heck.





               Understanding Political Systems

Son:    "Dad I have to do a special report for school. Can I ask you a 
         question?"

Father: "Sure son.  What's the question?"

Son:    "What is politics?"

Father: "Well, let's take our home for an example.  I am the wage earner, 
         so let's call me 'Capitalism'.  Your mother is the administrator 
         of money, so we'll call her 'Government'.  We take care your needs,
         so let's call you, 'The People'.  We'll call the maid, 'The Working
         Class' and your little brother we can call, 'The Future'.   
         Do you understand son?"

Son:    "I'm not really sure, Dad.  I'll have to think about it."

That night awakened by his little brother's crying, the boy went to see what
was wrong.  Discovering that the baby had seriously soiled his diaper, the
boy went to his parents' room and found his mother sound asleep.  He went to
the maid's room, where peeking through the keyhole, he saw his father in bed
with the maid.  The boy's knocking went totally unheeded by his father and 
the maid, so the boy returned to his room and went back to sleep.

The next morning he reported to his father.

Son:    "Dad, now I think I understand what politics is."

Father: "Good son!  Can you explain it to me in your own words?"

Son:    "Well Dad, while Capitalism is screwing The Working Class, Government
         is sound asleep, The People are being completely ignored and The
         Future is full of shit."

***********************

Mahin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: AIDS in Iran
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:21:30 GMT

mkarimna@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mellissa Namazi) writes:

>In article <sehari.724370078@class1.iastate.edu> you write:
>>In <1992Dec14.184650.10664@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha
>Javad) writes:
>>
>>   Agha Javad's article deleted

>>Maybe, one of the best ways to control this problem from entering Iran
>>is to test everyone, who enters Iran.  If one found to be positive,
>>she/he should be sent to quarantine, in case he/she is Iranian, otherwise
>>deny entery to him/her.  Other measure could be mandatory Aids testing
>>of all the people on the yearly bases, and infected people should be send
>>to quarantine.  I know it is expensive, but it is effective.
>>
>     Babak, what do you imagine these "quarantine" centers would be like?
>Do you really believe that those people placed in quarantine would have
>a decent standard of living?


>>Finally, maybe a High tax (some where around %90 of income) on all the
>>un-married people over 21 could force our people to lower their expectations
>>and get married.

They have already imposed this taxation!
But only on KAARMANDAANE DULAT.
Their salary is only doubled since the revolution
while the value of Iranian currency has dropped more than 20 times

I remember when we were building our house in Tehran a bag of cement
was 7 toomaans.  I had a call from my father last night who said that
a bag of cement is currently 560 toomaans.

It is not the taxation that works here. On the contrary economic
stability and security for people encourages starting a family.



>Don't you think that one should have relatively high expectations when
>considering the choice of a mate?  ie.  Theorehtically, you will spend
>the rest of your life with this person.


>>This money should be returned to them if they get married
>>within 3 years.  Off course, this might lead to high divorce rate.  Therefor,
>>the marriages that last less than 10 years, should return all the previous
>>years tax reduction and repay signal tax rate (%90) for all those years.
>>Also, other social privileges of a signal person might be subject to
>>suspension, such as drivers license, ..., if this does not reduce the
>>signal rate over 21 by  %90.  I guess, someone should become bad again,
>>to save our society.
>>

>     Fianlly, do you really believe that marriage=monogomy?  What is there
>to prevent these men and women from engaging in sexual intercourse with
>partners other than their mates?  How will increasing the "marriage ratio"
>prevent the spread of aids?

>     I think you should give a bit more thought to some of the solutions
>you propose for society.  Ideas are fine if they can be potentially
>effective.  Think also about the fact that you are proposing active
>discriminatory policies against many people (single people as well as
>those with aids).


>>                        With highest regards,
>>                             Babak   Sehari.
>>--


>Regards,

>Mellissa Namazi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,rec.games.chess
From: tregilli@s7.msi.umn.edu (Ian Lee Tregillis [Astro])
Subject: Re: On the origin of chess (was Re: Words of Persian Origin)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:36:24 GMT

	The last song of the London rock opera Chess 
(the one by Tim Rice with Elaine Page and Murray Head,
not the hacked-up American Broadway version) is called
"You and I/The Story of Chess", and the lyrics of part
of the song describe the history of the game.  I would 
post them, but I'm not sure if that would be a copyright
violation or not.
	Anyways, the lyrics state that the game began 1500
years ago when two Hindu princes fought for a throne; they
were brothers, and the victor wanted his mother the queen
to forgive him for killing his brother.  According to
the song, he went "to the wisest men he knew", and they
told him to show her it was his brother's fault by
using model soldiers on a board.  They thus, as the song goes,
invented chess.
	The game then spread to Persia and was boosted
by the Arabs, who brought the game to Europe.
	There's more, but that's all I felt was relevant.

Ian "Magnetic Moment" Tregillis
University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
tregilli@s1.msi.umn.edu
itregillis@student.tc.umn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: cs707ab@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Aftab)
Subject: Re: Muslims - First Line Of Action
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:07:28 GMT

In article <dbose.724377025@sirocco.aem.umn.edu> dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
>Dear paki bastards ,
>
>	Abhi to sirf ek hi masjid toda hai . Hame to do hajaar aur todne hain .
>	For your kind infiormation , I must tell you that India has greater 
>	population of muslims than pakistan . They can very well take care of themselves .

He he he he !  Sorry, couldn't contain it!  :-)  :-)

I feel the need of standardizing Roman Urdu/Hindi more than ever! It would be 
much more fun then to read all the "galiaN" b/w the netters here.

>	Khopdi me kuch samajh aaya .
>		 Do bar to HINDUSTAN se bahut maar kha chuke ho . Abhi bhi akal nahin aaye

Now I have a problem with that .... Pakistanis claim they won 1 war, equalled
another, and the third one ... well they don't wanna even know that it ever
happened. I see an Indian here claim that they have won 2 wars. So that makes
a total of 4 wars b/w Pak/India. Could anyone educate me on which were the 
4 wars we have fought so far?

>		 kya? Teri islam ki to asi ki taisi . 
>		 Zindagi bhar kutte ki tarah baunkte raho . Kuch kar to paoge nahin .
>		 HINDUSTAN se agar takraoge choor-choor ho jaoge .

That sounds *very* familiar! let me recall .... yes I got it ...
"hum say jo tukraAy ga - woh pash pash ho jaAy ga"  

but that was typical of Islami Jamiat-e-Tulba  .... hmm ... I'm confused here...

>		 Apni aukaat mat bhoolo .
>
>		 JAI HIND
>		 JAI SRI RAM

Shouldn't that be "jai shri ram" ?  That's for "Mr. Ram" .... Isn't it? instead
of "Ram's head".

[no offence meant to RAM followers]

Kamran Aftab

>		 -------------------------------------------------------------------
>					DUSHMANE  ISLAM
>					.
>
>
>
>


I once had a .sig saying "Finally I learned how to do this" and after all the
mails I received asking about it .... I'm not gonna repeat the mistake!
From: asghar@me.eng.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: Women's position and Pesar Amoo
Originator: harrsen@kaa.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:20:45 GMT

In article <21Yc02Cj2fl401@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> bxm50@pars.amdahl.com (Ben Mahjoor) writes:
>And our dear Mojahedin, when they were Khomeini's dear children, 
>kept on insisting that:
>
>	 "The most urgent work we have to do is to destroy [ EnhelAl ]
>	  the armed forces. The first step of a Revolutionary change,
>	  in our opinion, must start with the Army. Otherwise do not  
>	  speak of the Revolution, specially an Islamic Revolution". 
>	
>	  [ Speech of Masood Rajavi, Tehran, 5 Esfand 1357 ].
>

I thank you for using a document to make your argument.
However, you incorrectly equated destroy with "EnhelAl". The
shah's army was not designed to protect Iranian people much
the same that Khomanies Pasdaran are not set up to protect
Iran or its people. You can bet that one of the first thing
that Mojahedin will do after the revolution is the EnhelAl
Pasdaran, KoMeTeh, BaSeij, and even Army. However, it does
not mean that anybody with a uniform will be dragged out and
shot. it does not even mean that the equipment will be
destroyed. It means that the structure of the new army has
to conform with a democratic government. It has to be
designed to protect Iranian people and not the government
from its people. I hope you can see the difference.

Asghar
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