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From: gt0418c@prism.gatech.EDU (Shane Wm. McWhorter)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Morality and Crime
Keywords: laws, morality, rights
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:32:54 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Question:

What's the difference between:

(1) A man who does not kill a man, because he believes every person
has a right to live thier own life,

and

(2) A man who does not kill a man, because a supernatural entity will
punish him if he does?

The answer has much to do with Georgia law and the United States
Constitution. 

*** For those you you who have been following this discussion
intelligently, you know I am only using this alcohol issue as
a simple example of a general class of Georgia law.
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 | shane@cc.gatech.edu | Georgia Institute of Technology               |
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 | Psychophysics, Displays and User Performace in Virtual Environments |
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Religious Registration
Date: 16 Aug 92 15:37:00 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

gt0418c@prism.gatech.EDU (Shane Wm. McWhorter) writes:
: Here's an idea:
: 
: Make everyone register thier religious belief at thet courthouse. On a
: Sunday, you have to show your religion registration. If you are Christian,
: you can't buy alcohol.
: 
: You have to show your registration at Kroger, too. You can't buy pork if
: you are Jewish, or beef if you are Hindu.
				^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^	
Sunday is not a religious day for Hindus. Its Saturday that
most of the Hindus don't eat any kind of meat, not only beef.
Infact, strict followers of Hinduism should not eat meat at all
through out their lives. But, as it is in all religions, people
don't follow religious rules strictly. Still there are good
number of Hindus(even in US) who don't either eat meat or drink
alcohol.

: 
: That way, the government can have detailed records of your religious
: beliefs, so they can legislate them to thier heart's content.
: 
: (Please, I am only illustrating a point!)
: 
: 
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:  | Shane Wm. McWhorter | Graphics, Visualization, and Usability Center | 
:  | shane@cc.gatech.edu | Georgia Institute of Technology               |
:  |                     | Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0355                   |  
:  | Psychophysics, Displays and User Performace in Virtual Environments |
From: gt0418c@prism.gatech.EDU (Shane Wm. McWhorter)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Warning: Religion!
Keywords: Murder, jesus, Beer
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:19:00 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

>1. You obviously have something against Christianity.  I have no

I hope it is OBVIOUS to the other readers of this group that I do
not have something against "Christianity," but something against
a government agency enforcing with a police force, the religious
beliefs of others. I object to the prohibition of selling liquor
on a SUNDAY; not the prohibition of selling liquor, e.g. because it may 
harm you.

I wanted to clarify this to the other readers that may have also looked
at this only briefly.

>2. You need to know the difference between constitutional rights
>and privledges.  You do not have a constitutional right to buy liquor,
>just as driving a vehicle on the highway is not a constitutional right.
>It is a privledge that can be regulated by the state.

It seems that you misunderstand. I know the difference. I do not have a
constitutional right to drink. I do have a constitutional right to not
have people enforcing thier religious beliefs on me. For instance, laws
can be passed banning smoking, because the Constitution does not guarantee
smokers rights. But we are NOT banning smoking in public buildings because
it is IMMORAL, or any other religious reason, but a demonstratable health 
hazard.

>3. You are not the only person that lives in Georgia, there are

Exactly. That is why we are having a discussion. That is also why I 
mentioned that the Federal government had to send in troops to 
change the laws of Georgia, because the majority of voters in Georgia
voted to limit the rights of others. (Jim Crow laws)

.
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 | shane@cc.gatech.edu | Georgia Institute of Technology               |
 |                     | Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0355                   |  
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From: oaa@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (owen.a.alexander)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Warning: Religion!
Keywords: Murder, jesus, Beer
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:07:13 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Lincroft, NJ

In article <65541@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0418c@prism.gatech.EDU (Shane Wm. McWhorter) writes:
>You may ask, "Why is there a law against murder?"
>
>Well, there is a law against murder; not because murder
>is IMMORAL, but because to kill someone deprives them of
>their Constitutional right to be living.
>
>So, allowing the sale of alcohol on a Sunday deprives me of
>my right to not have neighbors buying alcohol on a Sunday...
>

Shane,
	I've been following your messages and would like to offer a few
points:

	1. You obviously have something against Christianity.  I have no
problems with this, but don't blame Christians for everything.  Hilter
liked to blame Jews for the ills of Germany, the KKK blame blacks and
minorities, General Motors blames the Japanese for poor auto sales.
It's easy to blame someone else for something you don't like.  Your
assumptions that only Christians got the state to pass this law is without
foundation and in fact is moot.  If you don't like the laws that currently
exists, stop blaming others and do as someone suggested write your
legistators, vote, or run for office (but don't expect my vote :-).

	2. You need to know the difference between constitutional rights
and privledges.  You do not have a constitutional right to buy liquor,
just as driving a vehicle on the highway is not a constitutional right.
It is a privledge that can be regulated by the state.

	3. You are not the only person that lives in Georgia, there are
millions of other people also and we all affect each other.  Laws are
passed for the common good, not for an individuals benefit or
preference.  This is a general statement to let you know that the world
is bigger than one or a few people.  There are generally good reasons
for laws to be passed.  Before dismissing a law because you don't like
it is short-sighted.  You need to know the reasons why it was passed and
see if it applies currently.  Then you might have some solid grounds to
arguing against a law.

Owen Alexander
Newsgroups: ga.test
From: tjg01@thdhub.HomeDepot.COM (Terry Gardner)
Subject: test
Organization: The Home Depot, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:43:12 GMT


Test
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terry@HomeDepot.COM			          Terry J. Gardner
From: PRICKRIL@bscf.uga.edu (BEN PRICKRIL)
Newsgroups: ga.test
Subject: test
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:33:03 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, USA
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

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From: gt2847c@prism.gatech.EDU (The Commander)
Newsgroups: ga.forsale,git.ads,atl.general
Subject: Car Forsale
Keywords: Car,Pontiac,forsale
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:46:47 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: ga
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I'm posting for someone without net access, here's his ad:

1985 Pontiac 6000-STE
Fully Loaded:	Michelins
		sunroof
		A/C
		Power windows/doorlocks
		AM/FM Cassette Stereo System
"Great for college students"

Asking $3295.00

Call David Clarkson: 	day   (404) 676-6115
			 fax: (404) 676-6265
			night (404) 634-6034

Send E-mail to claudia_clarkson@chemeng.gatech.edu

Thanks!
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From: gt3451a@prism.gatech.EDU (PETERSON,RICHARD JOHN)
Newsgroups: ga.forsale
Subject: For Sale:  1990 Ford Festiva L
Keywords: car for sale
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:30:09 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology



FOR SALE : 1990 Ford Festiva L

- 46 000 miles
- A/C - FM/AM
- alloy wheels
- new tires (5000 miles on them)
- excellent condition (body and engine)
- 5 speeds
- 32 mpg in city, >40 on expressway
- sold for $3500 negotiable

The car really looks like new and is reliable. Excellent second car or
student car.

Contact Herve at
- 378 4104 (H)
- 853 3170 (W)
- qscsihm@prism.gatech.edu

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From: gt5582a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt5582a GUION,SUSAN FEREBEE)
Newsgroups: ga.forsale
Subject: MAC SE Forsale
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:03:25 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology



*****************************************************

       MAC SE forsale

           includes:

              2.5 MB RAM
              20 MB Hard Drive
              recent upgrade to Apple's FDHD drive (high density drive) 
              recent ROM upgrade
              new system board just put in (68000 processor)
              1200 baud U.S. Robotics modem
              keyboard
              mouse
              manuals
              Targus Carrying Case for MAC SE


       reason for sale:  upgrading to new system

       price:  $800.00 or best offer


   email response to me at gt5582a@prism.gatech.edu

   Susan


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Newsgroups: ga.forsale
From: raypa572@Armstrong.EDU (Tricia)
Subject: Lollapalooza II
Organization: Armstrong State College, Savannah, GA
Distribution: ga
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:03:23 GMT


   FOR SALE!!!!!

   Two tickets to the August 20 Lollapalooza II tour
   in Atlanta

        
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raypa572@pirates.armstrong.edu   | drinking a Pina Colada
                                 | down at Trader Vic's...
                                 | his hair was perfect.
	                         | - Werewolves of London

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From: ce1zztw@prism.gatech.EDU (Tommy Barr)
Newsgroups: ga.forsale
Subject: Picnic Tables Forsale.
Date: 22 Aug 92 21:23:40 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology



   I have several new Picnic tables for sale.  These tables are 6 feet wide
   by 30 inches high.  Each table is built out of Presure treated lumber.
   They are made to be kept outside and will resist weather as well as
   termites.  I can drill a hole for umbrella access if desired.

   The tables are heavy duty and of very sturdy construction.  They are
   park style tables with attached benches.  Price: $135
   Due to the materials and solid construction these tables will last
   in the elements with heavy usage for many many years.  Each table
   is screwed together with 2 1/2 inch woodscrews.

   If interested contact tommy.  You can stop by my home in downtown Atlanta
   or I will load a table in my truck and bring one with me to Georgia Tech
   upon request.  If curious just give me a call or drop me an email message.

   Tommy    ce1zztw@prism.gatech.edu

            (404) 876-8527    Ask for Tommy or leave message and number.


-- 

Tommy Barr (404)894-2260           ce1zztw@prism.gatech.edu
From: gt2768b@prism.gatech.EDU (JENGLUNG LIN)
Newsgroups: ga.forsale
Subject: 486SX Computer for sale $1700
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:06:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Brand new 486sx computer with mid-tower case:

	- 4MB ram
	- 1.2 & 1.44 floppy drive
	- 120MB Western Digital HD
	- 1MB VGA Card
	- 2400 baud Int Modem
	- mouse
	- Software: DOS5.0, Prodigy, Quicken, Windows 3.1, Windows Work.
	- GoldStar 1403 640*480 Paper White VGA Monitor (14")

Other models available, please call (404)662-1635 for more details.

Price is $1700 plus UPS ground shipping+handling. Allow 2 weeks for delivery.
Newsgroups: ga.forsale
From: chein@eng.auburn.edu (Tsan Heui)
Subject: Laptop computer (IBM AT-Compatible) 4-sale
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Distribution: ga
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:33:35 GMT


I have a Bondwell B310 laptop computer for sale.

Bondwell B310:

  2 Meg. RAM
  1 1.44 Floppy Drive
  40 M Conner Hard Drive
  2 RS232 serial, 1 parallel, 1 CGA port.
  3 rechargeable batteries.
  Adaptor/charger
  Size: 13x12.2x2.2 inch.
  Weight: 8.5lb (w/battery pack)
  10.5" supertwist, nonglare, high contrast LCD display
  Real-time calendar/clock (battery backup)

Prefer to sell it as listed above. For 2MB memory, about 1.4MB of it is 
configured as a RAM drive and is very nice in running programs including
WordPerfect. The hard disk can be turned off and therefore no noise except
your typing keystrokes can be heard.

I include 3 rechargeable batteries. For new batteries, each would cost more than$50. I am asking $725 for above system. If I can find a buyer for 1MB memory
upgrade board and 2 rechargeable batteries for $140 ($80 (1 M RAM) + $60
(batteries, $30 each)), I may sell the laptop for $600 (with just 1 Meg. RAM and
1 battery).

E-mail me if you are interested.
From: rick@rodan.UU.NET (Rick Adams)
Newsgroups: uunet.products
Subject: Used T2500RMs available
Date: 21 Aug 1992 19:44:01 -0400
Organization: UUNET Communications
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

We're beginning to replace our T2500 Rackmounts with Worldblazers.

As such, we have a LOT of used T2500RMs available for sale.
We're willing to sell the used racks as well when coupled with the modems.

If you're interested in used, but excellent condition rackmount modems, we
have about 150 to sell at $300 each. We'll throw in a used rack for $500
if you need that.

This is a great deal for some organization that "only" needs V.32 and PEP and
doesnt need V.32bis or Turbo PEP.

Contact modems@uunet.uu.net or call +1 800 4UUNET5 or +1 204 8000
From: rick@rodan.UU.NET (Rick Adams)
Newsgroups: uunet.products
Subject: Inventory Reduction Sale on Telebit Modems
Date: 21 Aug 1992 19:36:20 -0400
Organization: UUNET Communications
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net
Summary: $100 off


We have too many World Blazers in stock, so we're drastically cutting
the prices to clear them out.

For a  limited time, the following new modems are available at these prices:

	WorldBlazer Standalone	$635	($100 off regular UUNET price)
	WorldBlazer RackMount	$609	($90 off regular UUNET price)

We have fifty modems of each type to sell at this price. These prices
are valid only for payment with order (credit cards accepted)

These prices do not include shipping or any applicable sales taxes.

Contact modems@uunet.uu.net or call +1 800 4UUNET5
Newsgroups: uunet.status,comp.archives.admin
From: tale@ten.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Subject: /pub/window-sys was missing from UUNET's archive
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 04:18:56 GMT

For approximately four hours this evening, from 8pm through midnight
Eastern time, /pub/window-sys was missing from UUNET's archive.  An
error in an automatic archive mirror configuration file caused the
entire X tree to be deleted.  It was restored from a backup made just
two days ago, and should be fully updated the next time the (now
correct) mirror runs again.  We're sorry for any inconvenience this
may have caused.

David Lawrence                                       uunet archives
From: kyle@wendy-fate.uu.net (Kyle Jones)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:16:05 -0400
Subject: Re: Echo?  Echo?
Newsgroups: uunet.forum
Bryan Lockwood writes:
 > Is it just me, or is there one HECK of a resonance in here? I've seen the
 > same two messages (one from me, one from Andrew Finkenstadt responding to me)
 > hit my system at least 3 times now.
 > 
 > I'm pretty sure it's not me.. why is this echoing back?  The Sender: line of
 > the header shows an identity: nobody@uunet.uu.net

A B news site has uunet.forum marked moderated and are endlessly
looping articles into the mail gateway for the group.  We've
contacted them and have also installed a garbage filter on the
mail gateway that should stop the echos.
From: overlord@megalith.miami.fl.us (Carlos Amezaga)
Newsgroups: uunet.forum
Subject: Re: Echo?  Echo?
Keywords: 
Distribution: world
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:50:29 EST
Organization: None

Quoted from <VDqFPB5w164w@coldbox.cojones.com> by system@coldbox.cojones.com (Bryan Lockwood):
> Is it just me, or is there one HECK of a resonance in here? I've seen the
> same two messages (one from me, one from Andrew Finkenstadt responding to me)
> hit my system at least 3 times now.
> 
> I'm pretty sure it's not me.. why is this echoing back?  The Sender: line of
> the header shows an identity: nobody@uunet.uu.net
> 
> The echo is almost deafening in here!
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> \   This PUBLIC DOMAIN post is brought to you courtesy of:  Bryan Lockwood   /
>   \            Usenet: system@cojones.com         WWIVnet: 1@501           /
>     \                We don't need no stinkin' copyrights!               /
>       ------------------------------------------------------------------

	I thought it was just be, but now that you mention it, yes I have
seen a whole lot of multiple responses.  The Nobody@ also rings a bell.
Wonder what gives?

Carlos
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From: ian@airs.com (Ian Lance Taylor)
Newsgroups: uunet.forum
Subject: Re: Througput problem revisited. Solved.
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:18:16 GMT

ishikawa@ds5200.personal-media.co.jp (Chiaki Ishikawa) writes:

>At my site, the TB was set up by somebody else long time ago, even
>before the news feed was requested from UUNET. So I had little clue
>what can be wrong with it.  I used An? TB command to echo the setting
>of registers. I just embedded it to the chat script and see the output
>from the modem. I think you can use "uucico -x4 ..." or something like
>similar to have the uucico package to echo the dialog between uucico
>and modem. This is how I captured the output from TB. (Taylor UUCP
>does not record the output from modem. So, I recorded the output using
>Sun's stock uucico package.)

I appreciated the informative message, and wanted to add that Taylor
UUCP is also able to record modem output for you.  If you set up a
chat script like
    chat "" An? foo
(here foo is a string which the modem will not send, so the chat
script will time out) and invoke
    uucico -x chat
everything read from and written to the modem during the chat script
will be written to the debugging file.  (The name of the debugging
file is set by DEBUGFILE in policy.h or the ``debugfile'' command in
config).
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  that none of this pain is still to come.''
Newsgroups: uunet.forum,uunet.tech
From: newsmaster@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Subject: How Long Should We Keep News?
Reply-To: news-expire-poll@uunet.uu.net
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:02:35 GMT

As the summer months are waning and the new fall rush of network news
looms ahead, we must evaluate how much news we keep online at UUNET.
We'd like to know what our customers think: how old is too old?
Knowing that we could only feed you news as old as we have it, how
long would you like it to be realistically before we expire the news
from our systems?

Please send your opinions to news-expire-poll@uunet.uu.net.  Thanks.

David Lawrence                                  uunet newsmaster
From: system@coldbox.cojones.com (Bryan Lockwood)
Newsgroups: uunet.forum
Subject: Echo?  Echo?
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:52:18 PDT
Organization: The Generation Gap

Is it just me, or is there one HECK of a resonance in here? I've seen the
same two messages (one from me, one from Andrew Finkenstadt responding to me)
hit my system at least 3 times now.

I'm pretty sure it's not me.. why is this echoing back?  The Sender: line of
the header shows an identity: nobody@uunet.uu.net

The echo is almost deafening in here!

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Xref: sparky houston.general:819 tx.general:590 tx.politics:4081
From: paul@xcluud.sccsi.com (Paul Hutmacher)
Newsgroups: houston.general,tx.general,tx.politics,rice.galor,rice.general,rice.comp
Subject: Re: Houston Defending Choice Coalition needs you
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:27:01 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Greater Montrose UFO Appreciation Society & Data Haven

In article <CORYWEST.92Aug15000038@helpdesk.rice.edu> corywest@rice.edu (Cory West) writes:
>In article <wasg.713825815@titan> wasg@cs.rice.edu (Eric Salituro) writes:
>
>>  Let's Boot Operation Rescue Out Of Houston!
>
>	It's time that the government kept their hands off of our
>bodies and out of our sex lives.

What a noble but misguided comment.  Operation Rescue is the work of 
religious fundamentalists and not your federal government.  Your federal
government is not allowed to participate in such shenanigans.

From what I have read most government types wish to distance themselves from
OR.

Cheers.

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 no justice. There is nothing but random horror."    | Houston, Texas
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Newsgroups: houston.general