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From: mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn)
Subject: Re: 88 and 84.
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:31:28 GMT

jon_care@hicom.lut.ac.uk writes:

>What is the difference between x400(84) and x400(88)? IN the Uk academic 
>community, which is more widely used, and which does ISODE support?

- X.400(84) is a pre-OSI standard, many important concepts (e.g. ASN.1/BER)
  evolved from it. X.400(88) is a real OSI standard that uses all the
  standard OSI layers that are used by all other OSI layer 7 standards.

- X.400(84) was designed without any support for a directory service.
  X.400(88) allows you to implement an extremely comfortable user
  environment using the X.500 directory service (e.g. using Steven
  Hardcastle-Killes user friendly naming instead of fixed mail addresses, ...)

- X.400(88) defines distribution lists.

- X.400(88) defines interworking with other services, especially
  physical letter delivery, FAX, Telex, Teletex, ...

- X.400(88) allows CommonName in Addresses, while X.400(84) only 
  supports the very GB/US orientated naming scheme with given name,
  surname, generation qualifier and initials.

- X.400(84) is used today by many people day by day while X.400(88)
  is (in my limited knowledge) used mostly in pilot projects.

- X.400(88) knows a few additional message attributes.

- X.400(88) defines the concept of a message store and the P7
  protocol to access it.

- ... what else did I forget? ...

- ISODE supports no X.400, but PP (whichs needs ISODE) implements
  both.

In additions the X.400(92) standard seems to be ready soon including
a lot of aditional highly interesting features (file transfer, voice
mail, ...). What is still missing in the X.400 family of standards is
something like a news system (USENET etc.).

(Is a list like this worth being added to the FAQ?)

Markus

-- 
Markus Kuhn, Computer Science student -=-=- University of Erlangen, Germany
Internet: mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de  |  X.500 entry available
------------------ ISO?  Nicht immer. Aber immer fter! -------------------
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Subject: Re: X400 mail connection to Internet
From: rolff@scotty.eurokom.ie ()
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:15:40 CET
Reply-To: rolff@scotty.eurokom.ie ()
Distribution: world
Organization: EuroKom conferencing services
Nntp-Posting-User: rolff


In article <1992Jul28.194515.1124@ugle.unit.no>, hta@boheme.er.sintef.no (Harald |>- Get PP onto an UNIX box. This beast (which is free) has both X.400 and
|>  Internet channels.

Is PP a good x.400 product?

Anders.
From: matthews@vulcan.resmel.bhp.com.au
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Subject: x400 agent s/w : Enterprise Mail
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:09:44 +1000
Organization: BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories

This is probably not the correct newsgroup but here goes anyway:

In a local computer journal I can across a small article refering to some 
software call Enterprise Mail .. it claims to provide access x400 access for 
proprietary systems (ms mail, smtp, cc mail, profs, all-in-1 etc) using the
same graphical user interface. The company that wrote the software is
Bolden James in Stoke-on-Trent in the UK ... has anyone a email address for
this company?-- 
 
Thanks 
         Ian



            Ian R. Matthews
   /\/\     VAX Systems & Network Administrator
  / / /\    BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories
 / / /  \   245 Wellington Rd, Mulgrave, 3170
/ / / /\ \  AUSTRALIA          A.C.N. 004 028 077
\ \/ / / /  Phone   :  +61-3-566-7212
 \  / / /   E-mail  :  matthews@vulcan.resmel.bhp.com.au
  \/\/\/    PSImail :  PSI%0505235633005::MATTHEWS
            Fax     :  +61-3-561-6709
From: gcprtck@state.systems.sa.gov.au
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Subject: X400 mail connection to Internet
Date: 28 Jul 92 06:59:25 GMT
Organization: State Systems, South Australia

We are running WordPerfect Office 3.0 and Mail on a Novell 3.11 Lan connected
via a Hub to an Ethernet backbone on which we also have a VAX 
running All-in-1 v2.4 under VMS 5.5 and with PMDF v4.0.

We will soon have installed a PC with an x400 gateway to allow sending X400
mail from the WordPerfect Office mail environment via the Ethernet to All-in-1
accounts on the VAX.

We also have an Internet connection.  We can send mail from All-in-1 accounts
to the Internet community and receive replies to All-in-1 accounts.

We would like to send mail from WordPerfect Office using the X400 connection
to and from Internet using PMDF directly. IS THERE A WAY TO DO THIS?
We have looked in the PMDF manual and are not sure if it can do this.
Otherwise we have to force the WP Office users to logon to All-in-1 in order to 
send and receive Internet mail which is not our preferred direction for 
our large Novell/WP Office networks where we want all mail to be seamless.

Alternatively, is there ANY OTHER WAY we can use X400 to talk to and from 
Internet to allow our users to remain in the safe haven of their WordPerfect
Office Mail screens while sending and receiving messages over Internet. 

I would appreciate any comments on this quickly (even the "God, I hate
WP Office and Novell LANs" variety) as I have managers breathing down my 
neck (with flames, fire and brimstone....).

Tim Kitching
State Systems
South Australia
Australia

(Sorry, there aren't any pretty ending graphics.....)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
From: hta@boheme.er.sintef.no (Harald Tveit Alvestrand)
Subject: Re: x400 agent s/w : Enterprise Mail
Reply-To: harald.alvestrand@delab.sintef.no
Organization: SINTEF DELAB, Norway
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 06:48:29 GMT

Result of X.500 search under C=GB:

(It's Boldon James, not Bolden, but X.500 approximate match caught it anyway)

telephoneNumber - +44 270=883880
streetAddress   - XX Street
postalCode      - ST7 2LT
associatedDomain - bj.co.uk

So, try postmaster@bj.co.uk
the Directory is getting more useful by the year.....get a DUA and join
the fun!
-- 
                   Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Harald.Alvestrand@delab.sintef.no
C=no;PRMD=uninett;O=sintef;OU=delab;S=alvestrand;G=harald
+47 7 59 70 94

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
From: Martin.Helin@hut.fi (Martin Helin)
Subject: Re: 88 and 84.
Reply-To: Martin.Helin@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<BruwwH.E7o@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:07:42

mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn) writes:

*In additions the X.400(92) standard seems to be ready soon including
*a lot of aditional highly interesting features (file transfer, voice
*mail, ...). What is still missing in the X.400 family of standards is
*something like a news system (USENET etc.).

I vaguely remember hearing that X.400(92) would include some kind of
standard for exchanging news between different systems. Has this been
dropped or have I received false information from the beginning ?

*(Is a list like this worth being added to the FAQ?)

Definitely.

        Martin

Martin Helin	Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Internet : Martin.Helin@hut.fi UUCP : uunet.uu.net!kaira.hut.fi!s30986u
X.400 : G=Martin S=Helin O=hut ADMD=fumail C=fi
--
Martin Helin	Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Internet : Martin.Helin@hut.fi UUCP : uunet.uu.net!kaira.hut.fi!s30986u
X.400 : G=Martin S=Helin O=hut ADMD=fumail C=fi
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
From: ritter@claude.ma30.bull.com (Roger Ritter)
Subject: Re: Books on X400 (Re: Request for FAQ)
Organization: Bull HN Informations Systems Inc.
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:55:50 GMT

Stef@nma.com (Einar Stefferud) writes:

>There is a book by Bernard Plattner (ETHZ) that is well reviewed.

>Hopefully someone out there can supply the full citation...\Stef

I beleive the book being discussed is:

X400 Message Handling
  Standards, Interworking, Applications

Authors:  B. Plattner, C. Lanz, H. Lubich, M. Mueller, T. Walter

Addison-Wesley Data Communications and Networks Series
ISBN 0-201-56503-X

-- 
Roger Ritter N1FZZ (R.Ritter@ma30.bull.com) PP-ASEL, AGI
1946 Luscombe 8A N71983 "Rocky"
Sheep do not so much fly as plummet!        NH CAP: Profile 49

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
From: leveret@warren.demon.co.uk (Nick Leverton)
Subject: Re: Referenced Data Transfer
Organization: Indexed; Access: Random.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:01:44 +0000

In article <Bs23vw.28n@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de>
mskuhn@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Markus Kuhn) wrote:

> Peter.Sylvester@inria.fr writes:
> 
> >.... where did I read something about not transfering a document but just
> >a reference to it?
> 
> ISO DIS 10031-2 Distributed Office Applications, Part 2: Referenced
>                 Data Transfer

Also RFC1341 (MIME - Multipart Internet Mail Extensions) defines a set
of extensions to RFC822, one of which is the External body part - a
reference to an item held on a remote machine, which can be fetched
if/when required.

Disclaimer: I know, I know, mentioning RFC822 in the X400 newsgroup ... :-)

Nick Leverton
    ______________________________________________________________________
   <nleverton@cix.compulink.co.uk>            <leveret@warren.demon.co.uk>
   X400: I=NJ; S=Leverton; OU=mdn0402; O=ICL; PRMD=ICL; ADMD=Gold 400; C=GB
From: roger@bjcong.bj.co.uk (ROGER JAMES)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Subject: Re: x400 agent s/w : Enterprise Mail
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:57:51 GMT
Reply-To: roger@bjcong.UUCP (ROGER JAMES)
Organization: Boldon James Limited (UK)

In article <1992Jul28.064829.17922@ugle.unit.no> harald.alvestrand@delab.sintef.no writes:
>Result of X.500 search under C=GB:
>
>(It's Boldon James, not Bolden, but X.500 approximate match caught it anyway)
>
>telephoneNumber - +44 270=883880
>streetAddress   - XX Street
>postalCode      - ST7 2LT
>associatedDomain - bj.co.uk
>
>So, try postmaster@bj.co.uk
>the Directory is getting more useful by the year.....get a DUA and join
>the fun!

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

OHMIGOSH!!!!

Someone has actually gone and read our entry. I better go and
clean up all the rubbish in it!!!!!!

Where will X500 be taking us next!!!!!

:-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

-- 
roger@bj.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
From: hta@boheme.er.sintef.no (Harald Tveit Alvestrand)
Subject: Re: X400 mail connection to Internet
Reply-To: harald.alvestrand@delab.sintef.no
Organization: SINTEF DELAB, Norway
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:45:15 GMT

Let us see if I have it right:

You have:
- Word Perfect Office mail users
- DEC All-in-One users
- A PMDF system that shuffles mail between the All-in-one users and the
  Internet
You will install, soon:
- A RETIX-based gateway from WordPerfect Office to X.400 (I presume, although
  you did not state the brand)

Well, you have several options, based on what other equipment is available:

- Wait for PMDF to come out with an X.400 gateway, and let that talk to the
  RETIX system directly. This allows mail to flow
       WPOffice->Retix->PMDF->Internet
                            ->All-in-one

- Get PP onto an UNIX box. This beast (which is free) has both X.400 and
  Internet channels. You will then have the mailflow
       WPOffice->Retix->PP->Internet(->PMDF->All-in-one)

- Get DEC Message Router software for the All-in-One system. This is an
  X.400 capable system, so you will be allowed the mailflow (I PRESUME)
        WPOffice->Retix->MRX->PMDF->Internet
                            ->All-in-one

One word of (mild) fire and brimstone: The current version of the WP Office
to X.400 gateway that I know of generates addresses that are, to put it
mildly, interesting. Example (address changed to protect the guilty):

/DD.WPMAIL=HOST(USER)/Givenname/Surname/@some.x400.mapped.domain

It also sends out messages that are not CRLF terminated; this screws
up at least some X.400 systems (mine, for instance). (That is really my
fault, not its; I should have fixed that bug.) But it seems to work.
-- 
                   Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Harald.Alvestrand@delab.sintef.no
C=no;PRMD=uninett;O=sintef;OU=delab;S=alvestrand;G=harald
+47 7 59 70 94
From: EDSKO@nosve.elan.af.mil
Subject: add me please
P1-Message-ID: US* *AFFTC; 920723145418886-MTAAFFTC
X400-Trace: US* *AFFTC; arrival Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:57:26 -0700 action Relayed
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
UA-Content-ID: 920723145418886-
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:03:25 GMT

Please add me to MHSnews.

  EdSko@NOSVE.ELAN.AF.MIL

Thanks,

Ed Skochinski
From: Stef@nma.com (Einar Stefferud)
Subject: Re: Books on X400 (Re: Request for FAQ)
In-reply-to: Your message of 22 Jul 1992 00:03:10 +0000.
             <90998981.A322@netman.nms>
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.x400
Reply-To: Stef@nma.com
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:47:09 GMT

There is a book by Bernard Plattner (ETHZ) that is well reviewed.

Hopefully someone out there can supply the full citation...\Stef
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.dev-environ
From: cceckh@nuscc.nus.sg (Cheah Kean Hock (Mr))
Subject: HPUX 8.07 and ISODE 8.0
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:55:44 GMT

Hai everyone,
	I have some problem compiling isode 8.0 using HPUX 8.07. It
'make' without serious error from the root of the isode directory. But
when I try the snmp directory, by either doing a './make all-snmp' from
the root, or './make' from the snmp directory, I encounter a lot of
errors, such as "FIOCLEX" undefined (error 1588 from cc) for snmpd.c,
a lot of incompatible types in cast (error 1527), invalid member of
struct or union (error 1531), etc for interfaces.c, not so many for ip.c
and tcp.c, and a lot of undefined (like "if_addr", "ifbroadaddr" for
interfaces.c, "tcps_badsegs", "m_mbfree" for tcp.c, and "LOCK_EX",
"LOCK_SH"...all the LOCK for users.c). The result: the only file that
get created is xsnmpi. ( I have seen the compilation works for ULTRIX
4.2, with xsnmpd etc created). Any help will be much appreciated.
	The xsnmpi for both HPUX and ULTRIX has "internal error for
community realNS, Int-X25, Internet, Janet, localTCP, IXI and bad
community name "Int-X25" for variable default_x25_community...", but it
seems to work fine as I can do get and dump correctly. Anyone knows why?
	
	Thanks for any help/clue.
-- 
Cheah Kean Hock                         bitnet: CCECKH@NUSVM
Analyst Programmer                    internet: cceckh@nuscc.nus.sg
Computer Centre			       address: 10 Kent Ridge Crescent
National University of Singapore                Singapore 0511
From: dtroy@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.dev-environ
Subject: async initiator problem
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:18:43 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

I'm having trouble converting a synchronous initiator (using ROSE)
to asynchronous.  After requesting an operation, I call RyWait()
to wait for a response.  RyWait() returns NOTOK, and the error code
in the RoSAPpreject structure indicates "Timer Expired" (which it
has not).  However, the result of the remote operation still successfully
returned to my initiator.

I'd appreciate any suggestions on what might be happening or examples
of asynchronous initiator code.

Doug Troy, dtroy@waikato.ac.nz
From: taka@fxis.fujixerox.co.jp (Takahiro Kanbe)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso.dev-environ
Subject: Re: iaed problems
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:25:50 GMT
	<BqGn8u.ABy@fulcrum.bt.co.uk>
Organization: Fuji Xerox Information Systems Co., Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.

Hi, dear ISODE'er.

In article <BqGn8u.ABy@fulcrum.bt.co.uk>
	igb@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Ian G Batten) writes:
> It would appear that the tsap_addr_cmp routine doesn't work.  iaed is the
> only reference I can find.
I examined this problem recently.  It seems that that:

    - It might not be the problem of tsap_addr_cmp().

    -  One of reason is the change (or enhance) in ISO-address handling.


Description:

Iaed(8) in ISODE 7.0 and tsapd(8) in 8.0 compares only the selectors of
two TSAP-address (at least, RFC-1006 TS-stack).  In 8.0 it compares not
also TSAP selectors but NSAP address.

And, presentation address which support/bootsvc script generates forms:

presentationAddress= Internet=hostname

This address will convert into ISODE internal format with NSAP-address
part which has hostname's IP-address and *zero* port number.

Thus, when iaed(8) compares two TSAP-address, NSAP-address part, port
number dose not match.

Both iaed(8) and tsapd(8) still listens iso-tsap port in this case.


Solution:

One point of view is that zero port means default (or any) port.  I'm
not sure this is correct or not.  But changing nsap_addr_cmp() in
compat/nsapcmp.c is one of possible solution.

Another is change each presentationAddress which iaed(8) listens:

presentationAddress= Internet=hostname+102

The port number 102 is iso-tsap port.  Now, iaed(8) got correct port
number in NSAP-address (in TSAP-address).  This works for me, but not
tested very much.

Thanks.

--
Takahiro Kanbe				FXIS / Network Team.
					taka@fxis.fujixerox.co.jp
From: nessett@llnl.gov (Danny M. Nessett)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso
Subject: ASN.1 String types
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:54:49 GMT
Organization: LLNL

I've been trying to find out which of the ASN.1 string types allow null
characters and which do not. X.208 (the ASN.1 standard) refers to ISO 2375
as being where certain character sets are registered. However, I am having
trouble locating a copy of ISO 2375. I tried our engineering library and they
only had some ANSI document (X3.83) that references ISO 2375. Short of
ordering the standard, I was hoping someone on this list might know which
string types allow nulls. Thanks if you can help out on this questions.

Regards,

Dan Nessett

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso
From: wlc@sabre.bellcore.com (Wei-Lee Chen)
Subject: Re: ASN.1 -> C API (was ASN.1 tools information)
Reply-To: wlc@sabre.bellcore.com (Wei-Lee Chen)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 16:42:13 GMT

In article <24878@sophia.inria.fr>, huitema@mitsou.inria.fr (Christian Huitema) writes:

|> 
|> 4) Regarding "extensible" data types, as mentioned by Bancroft Scott. We seem
|> to have a problem here. Take the exemple of a type:
|>    X ::= SEQUENCE {
|>      a[0] Foo,
|>      b[1] Bar }
 
   To allow the above expression to be extensible.  Currently in the standards,
   the typical way is to add a clause as below:
 
      "The abstract syntax name may be used when the presentation data values 
       are modified to include
  
       ....
       - new tagged elements within a SEQUENCE;
       ..."
 
   I assume the existing compiler which supports the extensibility rules
   will need to use a compiler-specific directive to mark that X is extensible.
   There is a CD corrigendum for X.208 to use format syntax to express 
   extensible. For example, 
    

      X ::= SEQUENCE {
 	a[0] Foo,
	b[1] Bar, ... }	
 

|> Which get extented in a revised version of a protocol into:
|>    X ::=SEQUENCE {
|>      a[0] Foo,
|>      b[1] Bar,
|>      c[2] NewData OPTIONAL } 
|> I would suppose that the initial version is translated in C as:
|>   typedef struct {
|> 	  Foo a,
|> 	  Bar b }
 
   The initial version may be translated in C as:
 
     typedef struct {
          Foo  a,
          Bar  b,
          Any  extension }
   since it is known to be extensible in contrast to the expression for a
   non-extensible SEQUENCE.

|> Now, just explain me how I am supposed to pass information on the extra
|> component "NewData", should it be present?
|> 

   See above.


Wei-Lee
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso
From: microudr@uuisis.isis.org (microstar user)
Subject: CMU ODA Toolkit
Organization: International Shared Information Service (Ottawa)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 14:48:36 GMT

Where can I find the CMU ODA Toolkit via FTP?
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso
From: hta@boheme.er.sintef.no (Harald Tveit Alvestrand)
Subject: Re: public domain version of TP4 for UNIX (sun) workstations
Keywords: TP4
Reply-To: harald.alvestrand@delab.sintef.no
Organization: SINTEF DELAB, Norway
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:52:44 GMT

Not what you asked for, but....
the BSD net2 release includes a TP4 implementation.
It also includes an X.25 implementation, the only one I have heard of that
is FTPable.

            bsd-net2-sources/sys/netccitt

No, I am NOT ready to answer questions about them.
-- 
                   Harald Tveit Alvestrand
Harald.Alvestrand@delab.sintef.no
C=no;PRMD=uninett;O=sintef;OU=delab;S=alvestrand;G=harald
+47 7 59 70 94
From: bni@modulex.dk (Bent Nielsen)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso
Subject: OSI TP4/CONS on X.25 Network
Keywords: OSI TP4/CONS
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:21:01 GMT
Organization: A/S MODULEX, Copenhagen, Denmark

Hi netters,

I am looking for an OSI TP4/CONS implementation to be used on a X.25 network.

Our hardware platforms are IBM RISC System/6000 and IBM PS/2 with SCO UNIX.

Please help with information about hardware and software suppliers.

Thanks.
--
Bent Nielsen                Email : bni@modulex.dk
A/S MODULEX                 Phone : +45 44 53 30 11
Hoerkaer 20                 Fax :   +45 44 53 30 74
DK-2730 Herlev
Denmark
From: stiller@telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso
Subject: Re: Token Ring and FDDI on same ring?
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:45:38 +0100
Organization: Institut fuer Telematik, Universitaet Karlsruhe
NNTP-Posting-Host: t8600.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de

In article <Brr3vF.4p0@world.std.com>, nectar@world.std.com (Jacques A Vidrine)
writes:
> Simple question, but I don't expect a simple answer.
> 
> Can FDDI and Token Ring be run on the same ring?
> 
> My organization has in place a 16Mbps Token Ring network using the
> IBM Cabling System with optical fiber.  It is our goal to move to
> FDDI in the future.  Thus the question.
> 

I think that this is absolutely not possible, since more than just technological
problems arise (layering, mechanisms, etc.). Both concepts are often named
token ring, but the "Token Ring" is a single token mechanism and "FDDI" uses
the concept of a multiple token. The MAC layers differ for that reason in
almost every single item. The coding schemas are totally different (Manchester
vs. 4b/5b). FDDI uses a bunch of timers, which the "Token Ring" never heard of!

It may be possible to use the same fiber optics as media, but I am not familiar
with them in detail.

Regards, B.Stiller
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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso
From: microudr@uuisis.isis.org (microstar user)
Subject: ISNODE
Organization: International Shared Information Service (Ottawa)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 14:47:37 GMT

Where can I find the ISNODE kit using FTP?
From: adam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Adam Hamilton)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.iso
Subject: Re: How do you transfer files over X.25 using pad?
Keywords: X.25, PAD, Sunlink, file transfer
Date: 28 Jul 92 08:21:25 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <697@iac.uunet.uu.net> iac!simpson@uunet.uu.net writes:
>
>SunOS 4.1.1, Sunlink X.25, Infonet X.25 PDN
>
>We have the need to transfer files between two Sun machines on an X.25
>network (Infonet). One machine will not be running x25manager so we
>won't have the two machines speaking TCP/IP between them and we won't
>be able to copy files using rcp. We will have the x29 daemon running
>between the two machines though so we would like to transfer files
>using pad. Is there any way to do this?

	Your pad MAY have a facility to save its output in a file.  At least
some versions of pad allow the user to break in (<CTRL-P>,a is the usual
keystroke combination).  At this point you type "s file" and all subsequent
host output is copied to "file".  Check your documentation and/or try "help"
from the pad prompt.
	Problems:
Only works for Ascii (7-bit text) files.  
It is no real substitute for proper file transfer (Harald's suggestion of
running ISODE's FTAM is better).
Facility may not exist.

		Good luck,		Adam