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From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Worst Car Award
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:41:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
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dwsmall@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Derek 'Enzo' Small) writes:

[models deleted...]
>> Jaguar XJ6
>> Pontiac Firebird

>I'll never understand Jaguar's thinking on the new XJ6.  Apparently sales
>were suffering so they took an upscale car made it cheaper and less powerful
>then tried to sell it for about the same thing. 

It's not the engine that's the problem it's the LOOKS :-(  This however
may be rectified with the new XJ on the way.

The XJ6 series III uses a twin overhead cam 4.2 litre in-line 6 cylinder 
engine called the XK engine.  This engine has a long history first appearing 
in 1949 in the now-famous XK-120. 

It was replaced in 1987 with the XJ40 powered by a 4.0 litre AJ engine.
The 4.2 is more torquey but the 4.0 is more clean and economical and has
more power. The upshot is the XJ40 "feels" slower off the mark but is
quicker than the XJ6 (series III).

Regards Scott.
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Joy is a Jaguar XJ6 with a flat battery, a blown oil seal and an unsympathetic 
wife, 9km outside of a small remote town, 3:15am on a cold wet winters morning.
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From: qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: best car ads
Date: 28 Jan 1993 05:58:20 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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In article <1k728bINN3ve@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> sestina@thing.East.Sun.COM writes:
>
>	the best Volvo advertisement would be to simply visit a local
>	salvage yard and compare the Volvo wrecks to some of the 
>	other wrecks on the lot.  Has th epotential to be both very 
>	effective and very unbiased.

--In fact, a local Volvo dealer here removed their new Volvos from the
  showroom floor and put in wrecked Volvos instead!  A really neat 
  sales tactic.

--Aamir Qazi

-- 

Aamir Qazi
qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
--Why should I care?  I'd rather watch drying paint.
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From: terence@tanru.tti.com ( Terry)
Subject: Re: Bill Gates 959 for sale? the rumor continues..
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:59:33 GMT

Just today I saw (and followed for a while) what looked like a 959.  I only
got a look from behind, but it had the full spoiler, enormous tires and
took off like a bandit when I got close.  I've seen a car that resembles
the 959 three times in the last 18 months all in the same general area of
Santa Monica.  Each time from a slightly different angle, always a red
car (big surprise), so I'm not sure if it's the same one.  You never know
in LA/Westwood/BH/Malibu.  I didn't think the car was street legal but
it sure looked like it was driving around?!

Wishing for endless money,

Terry (terence@soldev.tti.com)
From: 585110914@vill.edu (Lonely Wolf)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: HONDA '92 and other stuff
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:34:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

>Because I'm livin in f****ng Germany I can't get a third
>breaklight for my new '92 CIVIC Hatchback. Does anyone know how
>much it would be if I would order it in CND or US ??

JC Whittney and other catalogs have 3rd brake lights for 8-15 dollars US
plus shipping and handling....
i will post some catalog addresses later when I have my catalogs with me
Coyote Nizhoni
michael
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From: morton@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Brent Morton)
Subject: Re: List of clone automobiles
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:27:12 GMT

In article <C1ADw1.JFw@acsu.buffalo.edu> v064mcqs@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NEIL GANDLER) writes:
>Chevrolet Beretta and 2 door version of the Corsica

The Beretta IS the 2-door version of the Corsica! Additionally, in Canada we
had the Pontiac Tempest, virtually identical to the Corsica. I don't believe it
was sold in the US; anyone want to confirm this?

>Chevrolet Lumina / Pontiac Grand-AM / Olds Achieva / Buick Century  ???

You've got three different lines there! 

Chevrolet Lumina/Buick Regal/Olds Cutlass Supreme/Pontiac Grand Prix
Chevrolet Celebrity/Buick Century/Olds Cutlass Ciera/Pontiac 6000
Buick Skylark/Olds Achieva/Pontiac Grand Am

-- Brent
morton@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
From: v064mcqs@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NEIL GANDLER)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: List of clone automobiles
Date: 23 Jan 93 03:06:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  Alot of people out there dont realize that they are alot of vehicles
cloned. Especially in the American Companies. Here is a small list of
some that I know. Feel free to add.

Geo Prizm / Toyota Corolla
Hyundai Excel / Mitsuibishi Precis
Dodge Caravan / Plymouth Voyager / Chrysler Town & Country   ( Very Obvious )
Olds Silhouette / Chevy Lumina APV / Pontiac Transport    ( Even more obvious)
Dodge Spirit / Plymouth Aclaim
Dodge Dynasty / Chrysler Newyorker
Dodge Shadow / Plymouth Sundance  
Plymouth Laser / Mitsuibishi Eclipse / Eagle Talon
Dodge Monaco / Eagle Premier
Dodge Stealth / Mitsuibish 3000GT
Dodge Ram 50 / Mitsuibishi Mighty Mac
Eagle Summit/ Dodge and Plymouth Colt / Mitsuibishi Mirage
Ford Explorer / Mazda Navaho
Mazda MX-6 / Ford Probe
Mazda Protege / Ford Escort / Mercury Tracer
Mercury Villager / Nissan Quest
Ford Crown Victoria/ Mercury Grand Marquis
Ford Taurus/Mercury Sable/  Lincoln Continental (same platform)
Ford Tempo / Mercury Topaz
Toyota Camry / Lexus ES300  Im not sure on that
Toyota Passaeo a sportier Tercel
Chevrolet Cavalier / Pontiac Sunbird
Chevrolet Camaro / Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am
Chevrolet Caprice / Buice Roadmaster / stretched ( Cadillac Fleetwood Brougham)
Chevrolet Beretta and 2 door version of the Corsica
Chevrolet Blazer, Typhoon / GMC Jimmy, Yukon / Olds Bravada
All Chevrolet trucks are cloned to GMC with virutally no difference
Geo Storm / Isuzu Impulse
Geo Tracker / Suzuki Sidekick
Geo Metro I belive derived from the Suzuki Swift
Pontiac Bonneville / Buick Lesabre / Olds 88  stretched versions ( olds 98 &
  Buick Park Avenue
Cadillac Eldorado is a 2 door version of the Seville
Chevrolet Lumina / Pontiac Grand-AM / Olds Achieva / Buick Century  ???


	Thats All I can think of fornow. Forgive my spelling mistakes
adn Im sure Im wrong on a couple.

			Neil Gandler
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From: dwjz@bnr.ca (Doug Zolmer)
Subject: Re: civic above specs...
Reply-To: dwjz@bnr.ca (Doug Zolmer)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:38:10 GMT

|> In article <1993Jan26.4168.242@dosgate>, "mike pot" <mike.pot@canrem.com> writes:
|> |> Maybe this is not above specs, maybe it is. I always drive the crap out
|> |> of it revving the engine up to 7500 rpm, also the >7 secs is
|> |> accomplished with a kind of speed shifting, what I do is I leave the
|> |> accelerator padal to the floor all the way, and when it's time to shift,
|> |> I press the kludge. while the kludge is just slightly down the engine
|> |> revs up from >6500 to 7500 rpm, this while I shift to the next gear and
|> |> I let go of kludge all at once. This gives a super boost.

Uh, yeah.  What's a "kludge"?

That car isn't going to last more than 10,000 km.

-- 
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Bell-Northern Research Ltd.  Ottawa, Ontario, Canada         |
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From: yzhang@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yinong Zhang)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Which one is the right car to buy?
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:04:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

Hi, everyone,

     I am looking for a new car to buy. I can afford a car around $ 14,000
(not over). I want an autotran with air and radio. The following models are
in my lists. I want to get some advice from you.

          1. Toyota Corolla DX with air $13100
          2. Nissan Altima XE with auto, air $ 14000
          3. Mitsubishi galant ES with air power everthing $ 13300
          4. Honda Accord DX auto, without air and radio $13200


      How about Mitsubishi galant? It looks good but without airbag.


Thanks.

Chang
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ew@cs.brown.edu (Eddy Wong)
Subject: Corolla SR-5
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 02:53:45 GMT

I am looking at an '87 Toyota SR-5. Are they as reliable as any other
Corollas? Any past experiences out there?

Thanks in advance,


Eddy.

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From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Bleeding Brake Lines on a Ford F-100: I need help!
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:22:18 GMT


In article <1993Jan27.165839.20651@berlioz.nsc.com>, alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn) writes:
> In article <1993Jan25.215010.1@bronco.fnal.gov>, colombo@bronco.fnal.gov writes:
> |> In article <13894@limey>, sheriffp@Software.Mitel.COM (Peter Sheriff) writes:
> |> > 
> |> >      The bleed nipples are 3/8" AF not metric. Use a six sided socket to
> |> > start the nipple moving and then put a box wrench on it to do the bleed.
> |> 
> |> The wrench has 4 1/2 (nearly five sides), I just looked at mine.
> |> I'd like to see you get a six-sided/box wrench over the tubing.
> |> 
> |>
> 
> What usually works for me is to put the wrench on the nipple and then attach
> the tubing, or to put the tubing through the wrench and then attach the tubing.
> It's really not that hard!
> 

Sorry, I was thinking of the brake line itself, not the bleeder screw.
This of course doesn't mean that it will come off any easier.
But you don't want to use a box wrench around the brake line tubing,
unless you want to leave the wrench around the tubing, right?  :-)

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From: colombo@bronco.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: 1976 Jeep CJ7 Owners Manual
Organization: Fermilab Computing Division
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:09:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.223641.6073@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com>, thaddeus@hpcvusd.cv.hp.com (Thaddeus Konar) writes:
> I am looking for a 1976 Jeep CJ7 owners Manual.
> 
> If your CJ died but you still have the manual - I would
> like to buy it from you.
> 

My 1976 CJ-7 may be beat-to-shit and rusting, but you can't have my manual.

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From: singh@isi.com (Amit Singh)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: help: Buying a Jeep Wrangler.
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:13:01 GMT
Organization: Integrated Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: chief.isi.com


Hi:

    I am thinking of buying a Jeep Wrangler (new). It will be my first car.

    I chose to buy a Jeep Wrangler because it is smaller than other similar

    jeeps out there. It also meets my budget well. Any comments, recommendations

    & tips on negotiating with dealers will be appreciated.


amit
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Worst Car Award
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:42:00 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1993Jan25.170828.3532@bmerh85.bnr.ca> zenith89@bcarh1eb.bnr.ca (Chris VanFleet) writes:
>In article <krothman.727889636@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> krothman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ken Rothman) writes:
>>My least favorite car these days has got to be the Chevy Caprice
>>(and the Buick Roadmaster and the Cadillac Fleetwood)
>>The design is just completely IRRESPONSIBLE.
>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Funny, these are my favourites. To each his own.... but, how can
>you call these cars IRRESPONSIBLE (in capital letters?!)???? Is
>this some kind of dig at their fuel consumption? A trivial issue
>if there was ever one... but I think these things do better than
>a lot of the SUVs that are even more popular... CPV 

Well, I feel sure that the Chevy Caprice is responsible for a lot of
wasted food.

I've only seen one once but I nearly lost my lunch!


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From: chu@freebie.jpl.nasa.gov (Eugene Chu)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Lotus Elan in 'Basic Instinct'
Date: 28 Jan 1993 07:37:25 GMT
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
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In article <1993Jan20.164519.15106@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu) writes:

(One of the few correct pieces of information)

>No, no, the Lotus into a sub was a Roger Moore, The Spy Who Loved Me.
>>From Russia, With Love is the Best Bond Ever (TM), w/ Sean Connery (c. 1964)
>The Exploding car was in For Your Eyes Only.  That had the great scene with
>the two thugs trying to break into the 007-mobile, and you see the little
>warning sticker: Warning: Car Protected by such and such Alarm System, 
>and then - BOOM!

It's amazing how many people got those movies wrong!

>The other classic was Blade Runner with the parking meters that were 20 dollars
>for each 12 minuets (approximately) and carried a warning sticker to the
>effect that they were protected by high voltage electricity, and that any
>attempt to tamper with them may result in death.

I saw Blade Runner about 4 times, and two of those were two different
versions of "The Director's Cut", but I don't recall seeing this scene.
When did they show this?
>
>Jon jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

eyc
From: tsander@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: How to Remove Old Paint Job?!?
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:41:18 GMT
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

Hello all.
I don't know if this is the right group for this question or not.  If there
is a better forum please let me know.

I have just bought a used postal jeep (read right-hand drive)

Like most of them you see on the road, it has several layers of paint
of unknown heritage (the last of which appears to have been applied with a
nail file).  Also it appears that the decals are still in place.

My objective is not to make this a showroom classic but just to put a decent
looking paint job on it.  Any suggestions as to my options?  (Short of a decent
burial).  I initially thought of sanding it down but it is pretty rugged
looking.  I also have thought of stripping it with chemical strippers or heat.

Please E-mail any info. to me at:
		in%"tsander@uoft02.utoledo.edu"
				or
		in%"tsanders@maine.cse.utoledo.edu"
Thanks

Tim Sanderson
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: pacyga@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Pacyga)
Subject: Re: Politics of car buying(Buying a Japanese car)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:50:10 GMT

Here is a thought to ponder as we all make our individual purchase 
decisions....

  The more our industrial base falters and our economies weaken the
  better the chance that our children will be "flipping burgers" in
  our new service oriented economy.  This would be due to that fact 
  that engineering and technical (high paying) jobs would be scarce
  and all that would remain would be service sector.  If this happens
  we will probably see the hollywood and sports (kind of a service)
  salaries fall drastically too!

Just a thought...

Jim Pacyga
pacyga@rtsg.mot.com
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From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: Re: Lexus Commercials
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:15:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.054853.18849@scott.skidmore.edu> jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (JTD is lost) writes:
>
>Does anyone remember the Nissan ad (my favourite) when the narrator
>quips "I was having the wierdest dream.  I was driving this car <black
>300ZX Twin Turbo>, etc etc."  People are chasing him and he spools the
>car up to what must be 140 (full boost in 4th, hits the redline, etc).
>Absolute wildness.  Anyway, the commercial was only shown here for a
>few days (in New Jersey, at least) and was removed from the air.
>ANyone know why?
>
>	Jonathan

probably some do-gooder, mu-boy saw the ad and wanted to protect the public
from the evil influences of this commercial...why...what if everyone went
out and bought 300zx's and drove at 140???
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From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: What's Wrong with American Cars?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 02:13:03 GMT

In article <PHR.93Jan24134709@napa.telebit.com> phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
>Um, don't they have some 4-door Mustangs with the 5-liter V8
>for way less than this?

four door?  i don't think so.  i'd buy one.
two door sedans and three door hatchback, yes.
but i've never seen a four door mustang.  perhaps you mean the
fairmont.

-teddy
p.s. :) for the slightly humor impaired.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: hellmann@cs.scarolina.edu (Doug Hellmann)
Subject: Re: Engine difficult to start
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:54:04 GMT

dwsmall@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Derek 'Enzo' Small) writes:

>> A few things come to mind: a vacuum leak somewhere; a clogged fuel
>> filter; bad plugs? I know enough to throw around some terms and make
>> some really BASIC diagnoses, so I wonder if someone could give me
>> some further advice
> 
>Get a tune up! It sounds like you probably have the ignition timing off
>possible bad plugs and the carb may need some work also.  If another
>shop already said you need a new carb I'd start with that.  Try picking
>one up from a junk yard.  That carb should be pretty easy to rebuild.  
>Pick up a rebuild kit from a parts place for $20.00-$25.00.  Anyway 
>fix what you know is broken before looking for something else to fix

This is just my experience, but if the "shop" you took it to was
Precision Tune, don't bother checking your carb-it's probably something
much simpler.  I took a car in for a friend after doing some carb work
on it-total rebuild down to the float needle.  When I put it back
togrther and tried to tune it, I didn't notice that one of the plug
wires was burned from hitting the manifold.  Silly me...  Anyway, I
didn't have the time to screw with it so I took it into PT to get one of
their 30 dollar tune ups-I figured it was just some misadjustment.  I
let the guy look at it and he said "oh litle lady, why you need to have
this carb rebuilt" and quoted me $400.  I swiftly told him that I had
just finished rebuilding it and besides I could go over to the parts
store and buy a new one for $120.  He looked at me and told me to take
the car and get out.  When I got home I noticed the plug wire.
My friend also took his car over to PT and they told him he neded a new
carb for about $400, and I looked at it and saw a vacuum hose cracked.
Fixed for 35 cents.  Fucking rip off artists.

-Samantha (using my man's account till mine works..)
.
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From: gvanmoor@nrao.edu (Gustaaf Van Moorsel,,,)
Subject: Re: Politics of car buying
Reply-To: gvanmoor@nrao.edu
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:26:19 GMT

In article 2074@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com, c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:

>>In Germany, where there are even fewer restrictions on importing cars than in the US
>>(no quota, no extra taxes on light trucks), Japanese cars are almost as successful as
>>they are in the US. 
>
>I don't think so; I have the figures in the library, but I seem to remember
>that Japanese car market share in Germany is at best in the low teens %,
>while in the US is in the upper twenties or low thirties...
>
>Spiros

Well, I lived in Germany for seven years and I assure you, it is certainly much more
than the low teens; the lates figure I have is around 20-25%. But this is beside
the point anyway, my point was that in a market like Germany the Japanese outsell
the American made cars by at least a factor 10 (I deliberately give a low estimate), where none of the two receives any preferential treatment.

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From: theckel@col.hp.com (Tim Heckel)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Anti-Lock blues
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:17:00 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: tbone7.cs.itc.hp.com


Having just experienced the anti-lock brakes on my
'92 Nissan SE-R for the first time I immediately rushed down
to the local dealer to have the system checked.  They said
it was "normal"...

What happens is an incredibly loud grinding noise
that I can also feel in the brake pedal whenever
the antilock is engaged.  It's so violent a combination
of noise and grinding feel that my (involuntary) reaction is to
jerk my foot off the brake pedal, not good!

My question to you, especially if you own an SE-R or other
Nissan with antilock brakes, is is this "normal"?
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Snow Tires on the non drivable wheels
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:24:50 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: boaz@concerto.lcs.mit.edu's message of 27 Jan 93 19:02:05 GMT

>>>>> On 27 Jan 93 19:02:05 GMT, boaz@concerto.lcs.mit.edu (Boaz Ben-Zvi) said:

boaz> A question for people in the "snow belt": Do snow tires on the
boaz> non-drivable wheels do any good ?  I ask this because I already
boaz> have snow tires on the rear wheels of my rear-wheel-drive car
boaz> (and on the front of my other, front-wheel-drive car) and I just
boaz> got an extra pair and wondered whether I should go into the
boaz> trouble of putting them on the other (non-drivable) pair of
boaz> wheels.

I put them on all 4 on my Integra (FWD). Figure, it will help to keep
the rear end from sliding out. Also in RWD cars, putting them on the
front would help steering and control in heavy snow.
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