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From: zardoz@hfglobe.intel.com (Jim Garver)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: DXers
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:54:21 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation

As a long time ragchewer, both phone and CW, I'd like to post my two bits
on my passive resistance techniques for dealing with contesters and DX'ers.

1) Never, ever give out a 5X9 or 5NN signal report.  The stigma that the
contesters and DX'ers have left on this leads me and many others to believe
that a 5X9 report is a lie.  Use "loud and clear", 5X8, "20 over", or whatever
suits you but don't use 5X9.  The highest value in air traffic control
language is 5X5.  Maybe use that.

2) Call "CQ Ragchew" in the middle of the contesters.  I have answered
several calls of desperation like this.  We always had a good chat despite
the QRM.  If possible, "GO QRO".

3) If the band is open and the DX is rolling in, try to find a quiet spot
and wait there.  Often a DX will appear with his first CQ and you can pounce
on him.  I have had some great ragchews with DX this way because they are
often untired and fresh for a chat.  Meanwhile the pent-up pile up gathers.
If he won't at least chat about antennas or weather then don't log it.
It wasn't a real contact anyway.  

4) If the contesters or DX'ers have taken over the band go to AM mode or else
12 meters.  There are AM calling frequencies on all the bands now.  I prefer
10 meters from 29.0 to 29.1 and above.  FM may be okay also.
Last I checked, contesters and their ilk were being actively discouraged
from infesting the 12 meter band.  Let's hope it stays this way.

WA7LDV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:56:26 GMT

In article <1hm378INNp0g@network.ucsd.edu> brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
>If you have to pay for the site, $100/rack/month would be real cheap
>here in SoCal.  Typically tower space ($50/antenna/month) and power
>(~$20/month are extra.  If you've only got a few users, it's expensive!
>	- Brian

Then it would make sense to try to attract more users. Permanently 
tying up a pair for a few users is wasteful of spectrum.

Our machine got it's start over lunch with 8 guys. It now has about
50 regular daily users, and a couple hundred more lurkers who come
on from time to time. I'm constantly amazed at the number of hams,
and non-hams, I meet who have the frequency programmed into their
rigs or scanners. When we've asked for a few bucks to upgrade the
machine, checks have come in from people we've never even heard on
the air. New users are always asking where to send their dues. They're
usually amazed when we tell them there aren't any.

Our system is somewhat unique in the area in that we don't have a bunch
of noisemaking gadgets attached to the repeater, we don't have phone
patch (that's what cellphones are for), and we are completely interrupt
driven, there are no round tables, you talk only when you have something
to say. We sometimes have lots of doubles, but so what, that just encourgages
the users to keep transmissions short so that they don't have to repeat
themselves as much. :-)

Gary

Gary
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Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary      
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu
From: kstuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kenneth Stuart)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 829 Tube caps
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:21:50 GMT
Reply-To: kstuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kenneth Stuart)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


The use of 2 KV DC on the plates is waaaaayyy beyond the posted limits
for the 829B.  Somewhere around 750 volts is the max ICAS limit (note
- I can look it up if you like - I actually still have a few tube manuals
lying around at home).

By the way, the 829B was generally replaced by the 5894 in later designs.
The 5894 has much lower capacitive cross coupling plate-to-plate and
is, I think, a little beefier.  I have had a 5894 running for years
in a 2-meter amp with about 800 volts for the plates, driven from an
old Heathkit HW-2036A.  With 10 watts input, the amp gives me about
90 - 100 watts out which means I can "talk" further than I can "hear"
when working repeaters.  There are lotsa 5894's to be found at local
hamfests, usually.

Also, Fahnestock clips are much used for connection to the plate pins,
and the clips also help in heat dissipation for the pins to keep the
tube seals cooler.  I wouldn't try to use any kind of insulated connection
since it would trap heat.


73.   ken Stuart, W3VVN    kstuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil
From: paul@n3eop.pgh.pa.us (paul)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Teletype type face wanted
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:05:20 GMT
Organization: CrossRoads in Elizabeth, PA

drawson@Tymnet.com (Dick Rawson) writes:

> Does anyone know of an available typeface that looks like a Model 15 or 28
> Teletype's printing?  Or maybe like a military CW operator's "mill"?
> It isn't simply a Courier typeface in all upper case, with slashed zeros.

The hard part would be getting the random vertical offset... <G>
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From: coolidge@zko.dec.com (Bayard R. Coolidge)
Subject: Re: military cw
Keywords: Copy behind
Reply-To: coolidge@zko.dec.com (Bayard R. Coolidge)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:38:02 GMT



In a recent follow-up,

Date: 21 Dec 92 17:29:31 GMT
Reply-To: tcs@ll.mit.edu (Tom Sefranek)

Said:


> At 2 of our exams so far, I have seen the examinee take the entire 5 minutes
> of 20 Words/Minute in his head.  And then write it out CURSIVELY on the paper.
> Ofcourse they "do" code for as living at Ft. Devens...

----

I heard a story like that about 20 years ago. A retired US Navy Chief told
me about a young sailor who became interested in amateur radio. The old salt
taught him some of the pertinent FCC Rules, and escorted him to the FCC office
in Miami. The old FCC codger there at the time pointed the young sailor to a
chair, told him to put on the cans, and started the tape. (For you youngsters,
back then all non-Novice exams were conducted by the FCC, and the code test was
a solid minute of perfect copy and transmission out of 5 minutes total). Well,
the FCC examiner wasn't allowed to interfere, so he sat there watching the
young sailor do *nothing* for the entire five minutes. When the tape was done,
he went over and looked at the blank paper and told the sailor, "Gee, I'm
sorry, but...". The sailor looked befuddled for a moment, and then said,
"Oh, did you want me to WRITE it down?". "Well, yes, that is the general idea",
replied Mr. FCC. "Okey, dokey", replied the sailor, who promptly transcribed
the whole 5 minutes right then and there.

By this time, Mr. FCC, who'd thought he'd seen it all after his multiple
decades of service, said, OK, and handed the sailor a straight key for his
sending test. "But I don't know how to use that kind of key", protested the
sailor. "Son, you're supposed to bring your own key if you don't want to use
a straight key, but since there's no one else around waiting for you, go ahead
and set it up the way you need to".

The young sailor grabbed another key, propped them up sideways bottom-to-bottom
into a pseudo-bug, sent a couple of V's at about 30 wpm and said, "OK, now
what?". Mr. FCC mumbled something under his breath, handed him the sending
test card, and nodded to him. As you can probably guess, the kid rattled off
the whole thing without an error in no time at all.

There was a sequel to the story - the kid later got into a high-speed CW duel
with somebody on 20 CW, and won at about 45-50wpm using a Hallicrafters TO keyer.

Bayard Coolidge N1HO		coolidge@zko.dec.com
"The opinions expressed are solely those of the author and not those of Digital
Equipment Corporation nor any other entity."
From: shea4460@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Quadrifilar Helix Antenna
Date: 31 Dec 92 03:41:45 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center


     I've become fascinated with the idea of building a quadrifilar helix
antenna.  In fact I'd like to build three: one for 137 weathersats and; two
for the LEO Oscars, i.e. uplink and downlink.

     I've read the articles in the various ARRL publications.  I've followed
up on the articles cited in the footnotes and have even dug out the old
patents on the original design.  The theory is all there what's missing is
the
     If anyone has had any experience with this design of antenna or has
built one I would really appreciate any insight.

     Thanks and Happy New Year!!

     73,
     Kevin N9JKP                  
     Compuserve 76266,1537
     shea4460@macc.wisc.edu   

     P.S. I apoligize, I think I wound up posting a couple of blank messages,
this is my first posting in a newsgroup and I made a couple of mistakes...
I won't blame it on the worthless documentation :)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: reid@ucs.indiana.edu (Frank Reid)
Subject: RFI susceptability of new cars?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 00:05:02 GMT

I'm considering buying a new car, possibly a Toyota truck.  I've heard
rumors that engine-control computers of some Toyota models are especially 
susceptible to RFI from mobile ham rigs (symptoms not known).

I've read humorous stories about mobile hams causing odd RFI effects in 
adjacent cars.  Are there any cars especially not recommended for mobile
hams?

--

Frank     W9MKV     reid@ucs.indiana.edu
From: bwilkins@iat.holonet.net (Bob Wilkins n6fri)
Subject: Re: Who do repeater coordinators represent?
Organization: the cAVe group
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 09:53:52 GMT

rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rod Anderson) writes:
: 
: The local repeater coordinators have failed to save any frequencies
: for future use.  It is suggested that the most effective form of

How does one save a two meter frequency for future use ??

:  
: If repeater coordinators were chosen from ham radio in general rather
: than being creatures of the repeater owners there would be no problem
: with closed repeaters, there would be no members only closed repeaters
: on 2 m.  The only real reason for a closed repeaters is to keep the
: jerks who insists that they have the right to use improper language,
: or harass other hams off the repeater.

You have a splendid idea. We need user coordinators to coordinate where
the lids , jerks, jammers etc could operate so we can re-open our repeaters
to normal use. {;^}

:  
:  
: Rod Anderson        N0NZO             rcanders@nyx.cs.du.edu
:  
-- 
Bob Wilkins    n6fri          voice 440.250+ 100pl san francisco bay area
bwilkins@holonet.net          packet n6fri @ w6pw.#nocal.ca.us
From: Peter.Rojsel@maxlab.lu.SE
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Exploding Airbags? Locking Anti-Lock Brakes?
Date: 22 Dec 92 08:42:34 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

How about mobile telephones? The modern ones have a transmitter of about 5 
watts and the older ones have even more power. I recall someone on this list 
lighting up an airbag warning light with a 2 W handheld 2m rig (this was not 
a Toyota if my memory don't fail me). If a Toyota or even any other brand of 
car can't tolerate a 5 W transmitter they will never ever appeal to the people 
on Wall Street. (Perhaps Porsche are the most transmitter tolerant car since 
they are quite frequent among the Wall Street people.) 

SM7LEK Peter Rojsel <Peter@maxlab.lu.se>

I write for myself only.
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From: bat@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Pat Masterson)
Subject: Re: Keyer and Paddle Recos Wanted
Organization: Grumman Data Systems, Woodbury, New York, USA.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:00:27 GMT

I like a bencher into a logitech CMOS II keyer. Great combo.
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*     Grumman Data Systems, NY  516-346-6316.               *
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:02:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan02.061920.7115@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.114623.1@ttd.teradyne.com> rice@ttd.teradyne.com writes:
>>
>>That's not what I said. What I said was that any Ham has the right by law
>>to transmit on any frequency for which he is liscensed. Period. The repeater
>>operator has the right to turn off the machine. Period. 
>
>Let me see if I have this straight (!).........     :)
>
>I get my 440 MHz link set up, and get a coordinated frequency from
>the local coordination council.  Everything works fine, until one
>day YOU show up and start transmitting there.
>
>And *I* have to turn off my gear??
>
>I don't think so!

Of course you don't *have* to turn off your receiver. But you may
have to listen to a QSO on *your* private frequency. 97.101(b)
says you don't own it.

Gary

-- 
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary      
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: mgsail@prefect.cc.bellcore.com (goldstein,marvin)
Subject: Re: MFJ Loop antenna? (was Re: AEA Isoloop comments wanted)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 13:14:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.221354.37203@watson.ibm.com> uri@watson.ibm.com writes:
>In article <1992Dec23.162738.7909@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>, acm139@ccs.northeastern.edu (Scott Ehrlich) writes:
>MFJ Loop Antenna looks like AEA IsoLoop, and costs $100 less.
>Anybody cares to compare the two and comment on both?

MFJ has yet to produce one of their loops.  I put it on my "wish list" but
they told me it won't be available until "mid-January."   Old Story: "You'll
love it when you see it!" :)

Marv
N2OWL
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: FCC in Gettysburg
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:09:37 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

grund@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.edu (Victor Grund) writes:

>In article <1992Dec16.150426.1223@wam.umd.edu> ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:

>   I have spoken to the overworked, underpaid FCC troops in Gettysburg a
>   couple of times regarding licenses.  They are entered and printed on 
>   Tuesdays, and mailed out on Thursdays.  When the no-code Technician
>   license became a reality a while back, the FCC was SWAMPED with appli-
>   cations, and hired extra staff to handle the load.  Miraculously, 
>   turnaround times remained at about 7-8 weeks, even with the HUGE influx
>   of applications.  The staff up there is VERY small (I am under the
>   impression that 2 or 3 people do the licenses), and has recently been
>   furloughed due to budget cuts for some time.  Basically, more than ever,
>   they FCC is understaffed and FAR behind.  Maybe if some of us agreed 
>   to volunteer one of these weekends and operate the computers to get 
>   things back on track...


I received a new copy of my license in the mail yesterday.  I sent them
a change of address about 2 months ago, and much to my surprise,
here came a nice, laser printed license.  It was in two parts: one was
wallet-size and one was bigger for framing.  The old copy was almost
illegible due to a bad printer.


-- 

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Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 
Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Subject: Re: PC Board Layout Software 
Reply-To: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:15:16 GMT


PADS is also available as Shareware from simtel20.army.mil or one of
its mirror sites:

Directory PD1:<MSDOS.CAD>
 Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
==============================================
PADSLIB.ZIP   B  488615  920212  PADS library for PADSPCB.ZIP and PADSLOG.ZIP
PADSLOG.ZIP   B 1081636  920212  PADS Logic schematic capture CAD program
PADSPCB.ZIP   B 1036461  920212  PADS PCB (printed circuit board) layout pgm

73 - Jim AD1C

--
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Digital Equipment Corp.         UUCP:      ...decwrl!sttng.enet!reisert
146 Main Street	- MLO3-6/C9	Voice:     508-493-5747
Maynard, MA  01754		FAX:       508-493-0395
From: jongsma@esseye.si.com (Ken Jongsma)
Subject: Halogen RFI
Reply-To: jongsma@esseye.si.com
Organization: Smiths Industries
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:47:53 GMT

I bought one of those imported Halogen floor lamps over the holidays
and am reasonably happy with it. There's just one problem: It has
a built in dimmer that splatters all over the AM radio band.

I vaguely recall someone posting once about how these lamps
could be modified to reduced the splatter. Does anyone have
any suggestions?

Thanks,
Ken
-- 
Ken Jongsma                                          
Smiths Industries                               jongsma@benzie.si.com
Grand Rapids, Michigan                      73115.1041@compuserve.com
From: rrw@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Bob Wier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Easytrax?
Date: 25 Dec 92 21:04:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ
Originator: rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu


From article <8083@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM>, by jimla@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (James G Lar
sen):
> Another shareware program for PCB layout is Easytrax from Protel

 Aha - The big question of the day - is this ftp'able from someplace?

 I've searched via archie and get nothing, but would like to give it
 a try.  I just brought in Pads and it looks like there is a fairly
 steep learning curve (at first glance)...


- Bob Wier

  ---------- insert favorite standard disclaimers here ----------
                   College of Engineering
      Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff Arizona
  Internet: rrw@naucse.cse.nau.edu | WB5KXH | fax:602 523 2300
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:02:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.235602.1@ttd.teradyne.com> rice@ttd.teradyne.com writes:
>Excuse Me ? "Invited" to use the spectrum. Where does the FCC say that ANY
>Amateur has to be INVITED to transmit on a frequency?

No, invited to use their RADIO EQUIPMENT.  I can transmit on 20 meters if
I want to, but I can't use *your* HF radio without your permission.  You've
got to seperate the frequency from the radio equipment.  Closed repeaters
don't remove your right to use the frequency.  The owners only request that
you ask permission before using THEIR STATION...they DO own it, and they
DID pay for it.


-- 
     Jim Reese, WD5IYT            | "Real Texans never refer to trouble
  jreese@sugar.neosoft.com        |  as deep doo-doo"  --Molly Ivins
From: roakley@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Clever Phonetics Needed--WK3C
Date: 23 Dec 92 08:43:21 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <gDN7VB1w164w@phsbbs.princeton.nj.us>, n2gj@phsbbs.princeton.nj.us (Gerry Jurrens) writes:
> Let me add my vote to a total ban on clever phonetics!
>   
    
> when I got my "new" call, which are my initials, I got a note from a 
> local journalist who ran a column on ham radio in the paper, who sent me 
> about fifty ideas for phonetics...
>    


	Ah!  I see now.  I asked the wrong group.  Maybe I'd get
	a better response from the media types.

Happy holidays everybody.

73 & CU in the pileups..

Bob
From: scott@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Amiga Computers & Ham Radio
Date: 1 Jan 93 22:48:32 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	There must be more hams who own Amigas than a few in Logan, Utah.
I'm interested in any info related to Ham radio and Amiga computers that I can
find.......I know you guys are out there somewhere.
---Scott---
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430 mhz band under th (now repeater costs)
Date: 1 Jan 93 15:00:34 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems

In article <C053IC.6H4@NeoSoft.com> jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese) writes:
>In article <1992Dec31.150918.17046@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>
>>frequency usage must be on the basis of *most effective use*. That seems
>>to paint small closed and private repeaters into a pretty tight corner
>>when the spectrum is needed for more effective uses such as an open machine
>>that serves a larger user base.
>
>...but only if that open machine serves a larger user base.  As I have said
>before, not all closed radios have low activity.  There are some closed
>systems that are very active.  Do these active systems not deserve a frequency
>just because they are closed? 

Not all closed systems have low activity, but are they making the
most effective usage of the spectrum for the total user community
when they prevent the majority of users from accessing the spectrum
they occupy? I don't think that question can be answered yes because
the same machine, if open, would serve a larger community of users.
Only if the closed machine had a membership of the entire active
amateur user community could it claim most effective use. And if
that's true, what's the difference between it and an open machine?

Gary
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Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary      
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu
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