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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Neil.Setlists
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 21:46:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.203133.4948@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com writes:
>
>	If you west coast Diamondbacks are too laid back for a Net.Rap
>the least you could do for us east coasters is provide a setlist or two...
>I'll grant you folks another 24 hours.  A Zinfandel and Caviar hangover
>is a reasonable excuse in my book.
>

OK, OK lay off it already! This is really hard for me to admit, but...
                  I MISSED THE SHOW!!! :-(

There I said it. My $%$#^%$ BMW got a flat out on highway 880
about 10 miles from the Coliseum. About 150 limos passed me as
I waved frantically, shouting as cooly as possible, "song sung
blue, everybody knows one." A couple people in vans slowed down
and smiled but they said no way could they be late for the show.
I think I saw a nethead t-shirt on one of them.

Anyway, I finally got through to Mom on the car phone about 8:30
and she got my tire changed by 9:00, and off I roared to the show,
a little late, but hey, no big deal, right? WELL, GUESS WHAT? I got
there right at the beginning of the second set and they had already
closed the doors for the evening. Damn. All I got to see was the
encore, a weak Caroline -> Rosie.

Moral of the story: get AAA.

Bill

PS There was an actual review in the SF paper the
other day;if I can find it I'll post some of it.

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From: loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection)
Subject: Re: Clinton
Organization: Quake Public Access, Sylmar CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:24:06 GMT

davester@c-cat.UUCP (Dr. Dave) writes:

> I don't thing it was a matter of Clinton not INHALING...
>  
> I think he NEVER EXHALED!
> 
> <grin>

you've heard "blow, Bill, blow"....recently someone said:
Inhale, Bill, Inhale! ;-)
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From: "David M. Geoghegan" <imagesys!dmg@uu.psi.com>
Subject: Re: Rye Bread!!!
Reply-To: imagesys!dmg@uu.psi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:05:44 GMT


	Rye,

	The rye bread people are alive and well these days. We are a bunch of folks from upstate New York who love to party. Every year on the 2nd weekend of July we have a party on an island in the Mohawk River. A bunch of rye-breaders go over to the island dur
ing the week and clean up the stage and the island and just beginning to get the island(which is unnamed) ready for the party. Then come friday everybody heads down to the dock and gets ferried over to the island in boats canoes or whatever. Then the part
ying begins. Over the last couple of years we have had live bands play from 9:00 fri to 2 or 3 am Saturday (Dr. Jah and the Love Prophets, Random Coolzip, Johnny Rabb and some others). Afterwards everybody helps to clean up and then bugs out. A really int
ense scene with a bunch of dudes just hagin mellow. The phrase Rye Bread is of questionable origin but there are two prevailing theories:

	1. Someone thought LSD came from rye bread and it just spread
		or
	2. The King of Rye(an actual person) went the first island party (alone??) with only a loaf of rye bread and some beer and stayed the whole weekend, thereby creating the tradition.

	Heres my favorite Rye Bread Story:

	It was about 3 AM on saturday and I and a few friends had just taken some mushrooms and decided we would circumnavigate the island ( i actually remember using that word). Its about a 2 mile walk near a relly intense waterfall and stuff. Anyway after we h
ad gotten about halfway around I saw this glowing orange thing on the ground. So I look down and decide its flourescent moss. (There actually is glowing moss on the island, though its green). Now my friend thought I said flourescent moths so he's looking 
at me like I'm insane. Im saying "no check it out" and hes looking at me like "what the fuck i did't even know there were flourescent moths". So I kneel down and look at it and .......
It was a half lit cigarette. Needless to say we both sat there in the middle of the woods and laughed our heads off.
					Rye Bread
					Dave 

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From: rlewis@csws5.ic.sunysb.edu (Robert Lewis)
Subject: lost show tape grovel
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:00:57 GMT



If anyone has a copy of the dead at Nassau coliseum on march 29, 1985
please e-mail me. I was there but I don't remember it. Please fill in
my memory banks for this missing time is screwing up my system.

thanks 

Bob
From: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: 35 days (AGAIN) Re: Late refunds
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:54:03 GMT
Reply-To: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, gaile@grouper.mkt.csd.harris.com (Gail Edwards) says:

>In article <1992Sep29.005413.1418@u.washington.edu> ileana@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ileana Blade) writes:
>>I mailed my Veneta tickets back the week before September 12.
>>I haven't received anything yet.
>>Am i the only one?
>>Should I start worrying?
>
>I mailed my Veneta/Shoreline/BostonI tickets back within days of the notice.
>I think this was like the 3rd week in August.  And my refund just came
>a week or so ago.  I'd take it easy and wait.  Assume GDTS will put a message
>on the hotline when everything's been mailed back.  Good luck!
>
OK, for everyone out there who missed the last time I posted this.  Steve
MArcus said it could be up to 35 business days from the receipt of your
tickets until you receive your refund.  They are filling the refund orders
by date of postmark of your refund request envelope.  The later you mailed 
your tix back the later you will get your refund.

I want to know how can Steve put a message up saying all the refunds are done,
when GDTS won't know if they are all done, since GDTS has not put a drop
dead date for returning your tickets for a refund?  Some folks may wait
4 or 5 months (or years) to send their tix back.

FWIW,
rich
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From: cjs39035@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Christian Shay )
Subject: tape deck help please
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:45:08 GMT

Hi there everybody!

This summer, my old companion, my tape deck blew out on me and I have since
been trying to make an educated decision about a new one. Unfortunately,
there are many good brands and as well as a lot of places to buy.....

Could somebody out there email me a reccomendation for what they think is
the best dual cassette deck out there? How about dealers? Who reputable with
the best prices?

I'm willing to drop a pretty penny on this thing if it will ensure me a steady
supply of crispy tapes!


Your $.02 will be very much appreciated.

Christian
cjs39035@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: Digital Compact Cassette
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:31:46 GMT

DAT *IS* better than DCC BUT since DCC players frequently have "backwards
playback compatibility" -- they'll *play* but not record old analog cassettes
-- I bet they become polular.  (A repeat of the Beta vs VHS Syndrome)
The average consumer on the street would compromise sound quality for 
the perception they don't have to let go of their past analog collection. 

Too bad...
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: Americans Feel Good About the 21st Century
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:03:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.200445.15487@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>,
Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com> writes:
>
>From Reuters News Service comes this report:
>
[deletions ...]
>It said pollsters asked 800 adult Americans ...

can't help but notice it's not a broad cohort ...
[deletions ...]

>75 percent said scientists will find a cure for AIDS
>80 percent expect a cure for cancer.
>76 percent optimistic about the prospects for a woman president
>76 percent optimiatic about the prospects for a black president
>75 percent expect that cars will no longer run on gasoline
>41 percent expect that the world will be in better shape by the end
>of 2100
... and they said that we were CYNICAL!

>53 percent of Americans believe the Second Coming of
>Jesus Christ will
>occur sometime in the next 1000 years.
... 9 out of 10 deadheads believe that THEIR town is the one in
which the dead will play their comeback NYE show ...

>The poll's margin of error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.

i recently read in Bay Area Parent magazine that parents
think that their kids are most concerned about these things, in
this order (this is rough, but if someone wants the figures, i'll
find the mag)
a) being popular; b) getting good grades; c) wearing 'in' clothing;

however, the kiddies, when polled expressed their concerns in this
order
a) someone they love dying
b) fear or getting aids
c) the enviroment/world

shows you how we know our kids, no?  who are the cynics/pessimists
(losers) here?  our poor children ...  :(

'if there must be war, let it be in my time so that my children may
have peace in theirs'

lara
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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: Phil Garris Dead Litho
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:10:15 GMT

Gail sez:
>In article <1992Sep28.172121.25059@morrow.stanford.edu>
>EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
>>In article <1320001@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>,
>>gbono@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (George Bono) writes:
>>> F O R    S A L E     F O R   S A L E     F O R   S A L E
>>>
>>> Phil Garris Dead litho: (Blues for Allah)
>>>
>>> signed and numbered original......
>>>
>>>
>>> $500    Johnny     707-528-7247
>>  ^^^^
>>GOOD LUCK, JOHNNY!!!!!  think if i bought this my landlord'd take it
>>for RENT? i'll trade it for a bridge, tho': we're tired of lookin'
>>at the carquinas!
>
>Wonder who Phil Garris is?  As I mentioned earlier, a friend saw the
>original Blues for Allah art for $40,000 in San Diego.  So $500 for a
>signed and numbered original may not be far from market price.

yeah, i read your posting right after i kneejerked to this one.  and
really $500 is cheap for 'art'.  too much single-mothering on my
part, no doubt, to fully appreciate the 'finer things.'

>[whether mouse will profit from] this popularity.  Last I heard he
>was having trouble with grocery money.
>
>Gail

that's sad; hope he didn't sell the rights away, if and when he was
hungrier in the '60s and '70s, as so many artists did, 'cause he
SHOULD be profiting from his own artistic work!!!

lara
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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: HALLOWE'EN TICKETS!
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:56:40 GMT

i just got off LINE for my jerry tix.  actually in line from about
9:30 to 11:30 (de noive, selling U2 same day as a REALLY IMPORTANT
COMEBACK CONCERT!!!)

cash charge was $25.85 each.  actually i figured if i'd waited until
noon, i'd have had only about a 20 minute wait to buy, because the
line was very short by then.

heard while in line a certain rumour about mickey hart and his
'friends' regarding the shoreline show this saturday.  i really hate
to repeate unsubstantiated rumours, so let's just say that there are
plenty of tickets left, even in the reserved section, for saturday,
and no matter who mickey's 'friends' are, it's a good cause :>

i thought that they weren't doing phone sales for the halloween
show?  on the other hand, i got great SUN standing in the 'lot for 2
hours :)

in line about 10:10 (doors open 10:00), this maroon comes around
selling 'u2 tix'.  several people say, hmmm ...  one couple behind
me says, 'we'll buy' (they were on the way to see the As in their
last home game in the regular season, priorities and all, and i'm
glad they didn't tell the guy, as they said later, that they would
have paid $100 for BOTH!).  so they say 'how much,' and he says
'$100.' they say 'for both?', and he says (predictably) 'no for
EACH!' I started laughing so hard, i couldn't help it, and everyone
else joined in and he trotted away with his little tix in his hand
and his little red face bobbing along.  Each, indeed!
EVERYONE in line got tickets to both shows, and they didn't seem
close to selling out by a long shot.

see you THERE!!!

lara
(:<:(:<:(:<:X:>:):>:):>:)
From: davef@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Dave Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Favorite venue?
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:15:41 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Without a doubt, of all the places I've seen, it's gotta
be Compton Terrace.  But of course I've never seen a Greek
show, or Frost, or Winterland, or Red Rocks.
The beautiful December Tempe weather didn't hurt either,
and the great people of Arizona, and the feeling of being
on a reservation where Native law (supposedly) prevails (strict
alcohol rules, that is, but much more sensible enforcement).


-- 
Dave Fischer    davef@gandalf.rutgers.edu
"Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell"
                                               - Edward Abbey
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: he he
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:34:20 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <Jk0NRB2w164w@wharf> jackaroe@wharf.UUCP (Bart Zantzinger) writes:
> [ antique posting deleted ]
>literalminded as your postings claim, you should know better.

	It's funny how these echoes of weeks ago turn up again, like a
bowl of leftovers in the refrigerator that you don't find until you start
to look for the source of that *funny* *smell*....
								wr
From: alan@edstar.ucsb.edu (Alan Moses)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Music for Little People
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:02:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.144707.13205@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> silo386!jay@kira.emba.uvm.edu writes:

> ...  there is not a Mickey Hart record
> for Kids out.

They're all for kids!

-Alan

Alan Moses (alan@edstar.gse.ucsb.edu) 
Santa Barbara, California
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From: cook@alt.atd.ucar.edu (Forrest Cook)
Subject: Re: NETICATED TAPE
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:30:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.165338.28434@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ADJS@nmumus.bitnet writes:
>I'd also like in on the tape... my preferences:

Well, gee, if people are going to start picking things,
I'll be glad to provide some SPACE!!!!

All that MIDI gear should be good for something :-)
I don't play the drums, so someone else could do that.

How about ordering the songs into some kind of an IDEAL SHOW sequence?

INTeL Happens!

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From: hlose@usho99.hou281.chevron.com (B.A.Losee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Diamondbacks: How are Neil's new CD's?
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:02:15 GMT
Organization: Chevron

And now for something completely different.

Perhaps I'm humor impaired, I missed the start of this thread, or I'm just
displaying ignorance in front of a large audience again, but could someone tell
me what the connection with the dead is here? It seems to me that a discussion of
Neil CDs and concerts here is about as desirable as Julio Iglesias would be.
Perhaps a discussion of what wine to drink with spam and lobster would be in
order. 
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From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Rochester
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:51:49 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Wharfie replies...
>	Too bad...  Last time I was there was '88 and I was positively
>comfortable.  Wonder if the Deadheads would replace the criminal element
>long enough for a couple of shows?

That's what happened in '87 & '88 - the sheer numbers of heads
alone eliminated that.  I would also argue that the area has worsened
in the past three years. 

>	But Silver is _outside_, with real grass and cold rain to fill 
>your boxes with...  Those old polo field/baseball stadium venues are always
>my favorites.  Silver Stadium is the last example I can think of still in use.

It's certainly preferable to -- ugh! -- Rich Stadium, the home of the
4-0 Buffalo Bills!*-)  However, the War Memorial has its intimate qualities
for Rochesterians.   Another note to make:  the few shows the WM gets
are divided between GA (Jerry, for example) and reserved (Paul Simon),
obviously depending on the given artist.


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From: Beth Livingston <SASFXL@vm.sas.com>
Subject: Re: Bela Fleck in the NC Triangle area
Reply-To: SASFXL@vm.sas.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:16:59 GMT

I talked to Susan Campbell of Pinecone (Piedmont Council on Traditional Music)
and unfortunately, the post about Bela Fleck and Tony Trishka was a
bit premature.  He is NOT going to be able to appear in Nov. as was posted
earlier.  There is a conflict in his schedule, but they are currently
working on a spring appearance here..They hope to make an announcement
around the holidays.

ODC: Maybe he will be opening for the Dead again, this time when they
play the stealth November show at Walnut Creek Amphitheater :-) :-)

Disclaimer: the ODC is a wistful JOKE with no truth whatsoever except
in my fantasies :-)
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From: "St. Of Circumstance (Friedman,David J)" <FRIEDMAN@ac.grin.edu>
Subject: Al and Tipper Gore
Reply-To: FRIEDMAN@ac.grin.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:22:09 GMT

Someone recently posted about Tipper Gore buying the Europe 72 CD's and that 
reminded me of this talk I had with one of Senator Harkin's aides( a deadhead 
himself). We got to talkin about the dead while waiting for a subway in New 
York. He noticed my shirt which had some sort of dead insignia or something 
and started telling me how Al and Tipper were big deadheads. He says that 
they went to RFK with the whole family and that Al and Bobby are pretty good 
friends. This makes some more sense when you think of the connection both 
share with their environmental activities. Well, I just thought this might be 
of interest to others out there. Just one more reason to vote Clinton/Gore :-
)

             Dave
BTW: Did anyone else think the RFK show was pretty political in song 
selection(for the dead at least)? ...Maggies Farm, Throwing Stones and the 
verse about the president in Sat. night. 

                                                       David Friedman
                                                       FRIEDMAN@AC.GRIN.EDU
                                                       FRIEDMAN@GRIN1.BITNET

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From: ltgtr@wharf.UUCP (Scott Catey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dead as a Cult
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:35:24 GMT
Organization: Fisherman's Wharf BBS  (215) 383-7245

All this talk about how some people seem to think the dead as a cult got 
me wondering.  When I saw the boys in Vegas '91 I remember one of the 
dealers at Ceasars, an older woman, telling the people at her table that 
all this deadheads were a satanic cult.

WHY do people think this, you would thing heaven on earth would have 
gotten a better reputation than that!

Goes to show you dont ever know...

Scott Catey
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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: Diamondbacks: How are Neil's new CD's?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:54:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.080215@usho99.hou281.chevron.com>,
hlose@usho99.hou281.chevron.com (B.A.Losee) writes:
>And now for something completely different.
>
>Perhaps I'm humor impaired, I missed the start of this thread, or
>I'm just >displaying ignorance in front of a large audience again,
>but could someone tell >me what the connection with the dead is
>here?  It seems to me that a discussion of >Neil CDs and concerts
>here is about as desirable as Julio Iglesias would be.  >Perhaps a
>discussion of
>what wine to drink with spam and lobster would be in order.

personally i perfer a warm andre' .  it cuts the spam grease without
overpowering that delicate lobster flavor.  top this off with ritz
crackers for the triple cream, and twinkies, and you've got a picnic
to Diamond for!

:>:):>:):>:):>:)
lara
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(don't forget the jerry jello-mold with mini marshmallows!)
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: amazing rumor
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:46:40 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

ken@venus.odetics.com writes:
  
>It seems over labor day weekend he attended a Lithuanian 
>Camp (an annual event held near Yosemite, I think) and two
>band members (he didn't know their names) showed up with
>acoustic guitars.  They played and sang, everybody else sang 
>along (except him because he didn't know the words) and 
>everybody had a good time.  He said one was fat and one was 
>thin and they "really wailed" on their guitars.

>I just about flipped and nearly shouted "You Mean You Sang
>Grateful Dead Songs with Jerry Garcia and Bob Weir!" 

>When I know more, you'll know more...


So who has 'boards and is willing to start up the tape tree?


Matt
In the timbers of Lithuanio, the wolves are runnin' 'round
From: david@c-cat.UUCP (dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Jamaica show ?
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:58:59 GMT
Organization: Intergalactic Rest Area For Weary Travellers

BJP118@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

;-) 
;-)        I have a tape from Jamaica, 1982.  Some of the songs include
;-)        Sampson, Althea, Let it Grow... I can't remember the rest.  I will
;-)        post the date and setlist asap.
;-)                                       Patrick

a friend of mine has a couple of pictures from this show. Somebody he knew
was there, some real nice shots of jerry and phil with the sun coming up in
background.  sorry, no negatives (I Wish!) Just a couple of old photographs.
from what I understand due to delays, the dead went on about 3-4 am and played
until about 7am.  Musta Been a good old time.

                                                       -David

China Cat System     
(301)604-5976 8N1
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