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From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Re: Chelsea insult, apology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:40:01 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Nov17.230140.18099@tellab5.tellabs.com>, linda@tellabs.com (Linda Jensen) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 	RE: the alleged 'mistake' where photos of Celsea Clinton
|> 	and Millie the dog were switched...
|> 
|> 	Isn't that show taped?  So couldn't the 'mistake' have
|> 	been corrected before air time?  Didn't those involved in
|> 	the show recognize tastelessness and cruelty?
|> 
|> 	Nice  apology that followed.  The 'audience' gaffawing 
|> 	and giggling as Rush explains how 'Chelsea Clinton can't 
|> 	help what she looks like'.  Nice guy. Nice audience.  Nice
|> 	show.
|> 
|> 	Rush is not only willing to pick on a little girl, but
|> 	then doesn't even have gonads to stand up to what he did.
|> 	Instead, he offers up some very lame backpeddling.  Gutless
|> 	bully in my book......
|> 
|> 	

More like a weasle.
A really big weasle.  or a pig.

Like I said.  Rush is a coward.

Jared Dahl
Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.
Clinton is Prez, and the Right is PISSED!!!!
HA!
From: libwca@emory.edu (Bill Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Presidential Wives
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:30:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
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krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
: In article <105120024@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> patm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Pat Murphy) writes:
: >
: >
: >	so i'm listening to the show yesterday (11/17) and 
: >	rush and a caller are harping on bill for letting
: >	his wife hillary in on all the planning meetings...
: >
: >	how soon we forget... what about nancy pulling ron's
: >	strings??!  and i'm sure bar had more than a passing
: >	interest in georgie's work...  at least clinton is
: >	honesy enough to come out and say his wife is involved.
: >	(even if he's not normally honest;-)
: >
: >	rush complained that we elected clinton, not his wife...
: >	NOT TRUE!  you always get two for the price of one.
: >	do we honestly believe that presidential marriages are
: >	like the cleaver's marriage??!
: >
: >	come on people... 
: >
: >	rush, you are better than this...
: >
: >
: >
: >just my $0.004 worth (price adjusted for future inflation)
: >pjm.
: 
: You lefties just don't see the contradiction, do you?  What did the 
: liberals in the media say when the possibility arose that nancy was 
: having influence on the prez?  Lefties from coast-to-coast were 
: outraged!  Now, since it is one of your own in the white house, it 
: is perfectly fine that she gets as involved as much as possible.
: (I was talking about Hillary as the leftist in the white house, 
: since it is not agreed upon that Bill is one as well.)
: 
: Ted

I don't think anybody was "outraged" that Nancy had an influence on
Ronnie; it's absurd to expect anybody not to be influenced by his
or her spouse.  As I recall, the problem was that Nancy's
influenced was based on the predictions of her astrologer.
By the way, I haven't seen any evidence that Hillary is a
"leftist"; I assume you're basing this assertion on all that 
"marriage is slavery" horseshit.  I suggest you read the actual 
article the remark was excerpted from; it really isn't all that 
radical.  

Bill
From: brucek@Ingres.COM (Bruce Kleinman)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Chelsea insult, apology
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:57:04 GMT
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501

In article <1992Nov19.163624.15299@dg-rtp.dg.com> crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun) writes:
>
>I am a fan of Rush but I'll admit that his personal attacks and name calling
>are beginning to turn me off.  On the other hand, we can forgive Ted Kennedy
>for murder, we can forgive Marion Barry for drug abuse, we can forgive Bill
>Clinton for draft dodging, we can forgive David Dinkins for racism and
>anti-semitism.  Why can't we forgive Rush a few peccadilloes.  Oh, I forgot.
>He's a conservative Republican.
>

Actually, what we forgave Ted Kennedy for was involutary manslaughter,
drunk driving, and leaving the scene of an accident, and come to think
of it, *I* never forgave him anyway.
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: car@access.digex.com (Mr. Blue)
Subject: Liberal Media
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:21:49 GMT

If the media were to poll *itself* on how it voted this last election,
what percentages would have voted for clinton, bush and perot? Id love
to see the numbers. The reporters and editors could even remain
anyonymous.                

One other thing: Sam Donaldson. 
This man is a flaming "Im waiting for Mario" liberal, and he expresses 
his liberal opinion on This Week with David Brinkeley every Sunday. Why is
this man allowed to do World News Tonight when Petter Jennings is out????
Does he just switch back and forth from liberal commentator to objective
news reporter?? BTW, Anyone got any clues on Jenning's political position??
From: dejst5+@pitt.edu (David   E Joslin)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Religious Right (Was: Rush Limbaugh: Victory from Defeat)
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:06:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
>dejst5+@pitt.edu (David   E Joslin) writes:
>-Several people have said this and I just don't understand it.  What
>-have you seen to make you think that "Religious Right" is used to refer
>-to everyone who is religious? 
>
>Southern Baptists sometimes are perceived that way. In fact, in a lot of
>cases, just plain Christians are perceived thusly. Anyone who calls for
>a return of morals and a values system in American society is labeled a
>member of the "Religious Right."

Well, my father was a Southern Baptist preacher, and
I know very well that Southern Baptists are a very
diverse group.  Isn't Bill Clinton a Southern Baptist?

To me it depends on what form the "call to a return to
morals" takes.  To use your right to freedom of speech
to try to convince others to adopt a particular value
system is one thing.  To try to force it down other
people's throats is another thing altogether.  I think
that the problem here is that a lot of people on both
sides can't tell the difference.

I fully realize that there are people who think that
Christians should not even be allowed to express their
personal beliefs about morality and values.  But please
don't assume that everyone who expresses disgust with
the Religious Right has this attitude.  Some of us
simply don't want to have someone else's religious 
values forced upon us.

David
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: 16 years of Demos?
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Distribution: alt.rush-limbaugh
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:46:31 GMT

The Democrats are seriously planning for 8 years of Clinton plus another
8 years of Gore. So said Rush today.

But can the Country endure it?

L.
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Time to see what's in the other half of Rush Limbaugh's brain..


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From: young@ssdd475a.erim.org (Peter Young)
Subject: Re: Liberal Agenda
In-reply-to: green@plains.NoDak.edu's message of 16 Nov 92 00:37:22 GMT
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
	<1e6a66INNgbb@spool.mu.edu> <Bxs9qB.Etw@ns1.nodak.edu>
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:20:06

In article <Bxs9qB.Etw@ns1.nodak.edu> green@plains.NoDak.edu (Brad Green) writes:

>   You mean to say if you break a law, you should be punished?  Wow, what a
>   radical idea.  Does this also apply to Alan Cranston, Jim Wright, Tony Cuello,
>   Max Savage, and all the other liberal Dems whose party has given them a free
>   ride?

I guess I missed it.  What laws did these folks break?  In what courts
were they convicted?

When I read your original posting, I was first amused, then very
saddened.  You seem to think (from your first item) that the
government is responsible for the values of your family.  You, sir,
have that responsibility.  Every family is faced with that
responsibility.  If your children become homosexual because of what
they learned in school, you have not done a good job of teaching them
your values, or they had that proclivity from the start.  Or are you
suggesting that you can handle it, but the rest of the people,
sheeplike and unaware, cannot?  A little arrogance goes a long way.

Peter
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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: 00066033@ysub.ysu.edu
Subject: Re: Of all the oddest things...
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:48:15 GMT

In article <7117@news.duke.edu>
eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
 
>
>Article taken from "U. The National College Magazine" for Nov 1992.
>Published by American Collegiate Network, Inc.
>
>It takes a lot of balls to be this artistic at St. Mary's
>
>[Picture included]
>
>It's just four balls of polyurethane, but it's caused the most heated
>controversy at St. Mary's College in 15 years.
>
>The Great Bulbous Sculpture Controversy began when the untitled work by
>artist Marcia Kaplan was put on outdoor display at the all women's
>Catholic college in Indiana.
>
>And reaction to the sculpture has run the gamut. "The sculpture is so
>blatantly sexual that the law was not the appropriate place to display
>it," says junior Jennifer Rasmussen.
>
>But senior Christine Makarewicz says the sculpture has artistic merit.
>"I was glad to see that it was on our campus," she says.
>
>Hard times -- or a hard body -- broke the sculpture and St. Mary's
>administration leapt to the rescue. President William Hickey decided to
>move the art indoors where it could be protected.
>
>The saga ended in September three weeks later when faculty pressure
>forced the administrators to move the work back outside.
>
>But students like Makarewicz are still bitter. "If you're going to put
>something that has a possible controversial content, a college campus is
>the ideal setting."
>
 
Why did the artist stop there. They should have added a few breasts and
perhaps a towering penis. Or perhaps a living sculpture of two men
having anal sex would have been dandy.  Of course, they would have
had to move that indoors during the winter months.
 
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From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:01:40 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

jnomina@andy.bgsu.edu (A.P.K.) writes:
+psmith@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Paul Smith) writes:
+> 
+> I challenge pro-choice and pro-lifers both to move with me to the middle
+> on this.  Let's do something instead of waiting for it to fall apart 
+> around us.
+
+Uh, just one thing Paul...  Isn't Pro-Choice the middle ground?
+
+Pro-Abortion  <----->  Pro-Choice  <----->  Pro-Life
+
+See, that's the one argument I've had against the Pro-Life
+stance all alone.  By being Pro-Life, they're exercising
+their choice to be Pro-Life.  Hence, they too are Pro-Choice
+but fail to admit this fact in an effort to administer
+THEIR choice upon everyone.  In this country of freedoms
+(to include the freedom to invade someone else's freedom),
+the only way anyone can be in this issue is to be pro-choice,
+because whatever choice they make, it's their freedom to
+make and believe in that choice.  For this very reason, I,
+a primarily conservative person, have no alternative but to
+be Pro-Choice.  That isn't saying I'm Pro-Life OR Pro-Abortion...

Interesting point that you do have. I would like to pose a few questions
though:

1) What is the _pro-choice_ position (as opposed to the pro-abortion or
pro-life positions) on federal funding for abortion? Is it that only
those abortions that are to be performed on women in financial need who
have been raped or their lives are at stake? If so, how can this be
enforced and why isn't there a NARAL representative touting this
position?

2) What is the middle ground regarding a waiting period? Is it that only
women who are in dire financial need that have been raped should waive
this waiting period?

3) Middle ground regarding parental consent or perhaps spousal consent?
-- 
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	THANK GOD IT'S BASKETBALL SEASON!!!!!
I don't have to have a 4.0 GPA to succeed in life because I'm 
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From: rfa@Turing.ORG (Robert F. Alexander)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Limbaugh Watch Day 17
Date: 21 Nov 92 04:40:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <grendel.722306065@camelot> grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea) writes:
>In <1992Nov20.140810.25756@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com.mrg.uswest.com> steve@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com (Steven Martin) writes:
>
>>In article <41298@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Pim van Meurs, pvanmeur@sdcc3.ucsd.edu
>>writes:
>>>believe. Guess that's why there is no liberal equivalent of Rush.
>
>>You mean like Phil Donahue, Geraldo Rivera, Dan Blather, Tom Brokaw, 
>>Vlademir Pozner, Arsenio Hall, Jay Leno, Whoopi Goldberg? 
>>That is all I could think of in about 10 seconds.
>
>
>
>And anyway, none of the people you mentioned are liberal equivalents of
>Rush.  Rather and Brokaw are newscasters, not talk radio deejays.  Goldberg
>is principally an actress.  And Donahue, Hall and Leno host talk shows,
>usually with figures in the world of entertainment, and are not politically
>oriented.  Rush Limbaugh is an ideologue.  He is an openly conservative
>commentator who admittedly relies on opinion, not fact.  There is still
>no equivalent to him in the media, despite your conspiracy theory.
>
I was listening to the radio last night and some dude by the
name of LARRY KING was on...RUDE, Cut people off when he
didn't like what they were saying...A claims to be a
liberal.  No match for RUSH...At least Rush does'nt just
dump his callers into oblivion and make cute remarks about
how stupid they are.

Ever hear of Michael Jackson (not the musician) another
liberal commentator. Lame...no following...no match for
Rush.
If you don't like Rush...you know how to remedy that....

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From: john@anasazi.com (John R. Moore)
Subject: Re: Malcom the Tenth
Reply-To: john@anasazi.com
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:49:34 GMT

Keywords: 

In article <1992Nov21.230953.14125@seq.uncwil.edu> session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions) writes:
]It is debatable that the label "racist" can properly be applied to
]Malcolm X.

There is little doubt in my mind that before his trip to Mecca, Malcolm X
was an extreme racist. 
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From: cdm@pmafire.inel.gov (Dale Cook)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 18:59:50 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Re: Spotted Owl/Re:The Environment
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: 

In article <nate.847@psygate.psych.indiana.edu> nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
>snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass) writes:
>>Also, timber is a very beautiful resorce.  What the hell are we doing
>>sending it out to other countries?  I would like to keep it all here 
>>in the states.  We don't have enough to share....We have a large 
>>enough market to sale it here only.
>
>    That would be nice, but it wouldn't do anything to help our trade 
>balance, especially since timber is one of the few things that Japan is 
>still actively interested in buying from North America.

For the record, Federal law prohibits the export of logs from public land.

What would be nice is if the public got their money's worth from the 
sale of this resource.  High quality Doug-fir logs go for $50 bd/ft,
while the treasury gets on the order of $5 bd/ft from the sale of it.
There are other games played which actually worsen this figure, such
as the practice of writing down the value of logs based on "damage"
estimates for rot and checks, which can lower by 50% the amount of 
return on the logs to the public.
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From: marcr@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Marc Rassbach)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: ENGLE: up to his old tricks (>)
Date: 15 Nov 1992 20:32:29 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu
Keywords: Engle

In article <ged1.721807950@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> ged1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Gregory E. Daigle) writes:
> As for phone lines in the White House, there are many that Chelsea will never
> know about.  Ever read any Tom Clancy?  Not that I get my facts from him, 

Would some one care to comment on how one can go from the series
about how Nathan Engle is without a clue to phone lines into the white
house?

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: linda@tellabs.com (Linda Jensen)
Subject: Chelsea insult, apology
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Tellabs, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:01:40 GMT




	RE: the alleged 'mistake' where photos of Celsea Clinton
	and Millie the dog were switched...

	Isn't that show taped?  So couldn't the 'mistake' have
	been corrected before air time?  Didn't those involved in
	the show recognize tastelessness and cruelty?

	Nice  apology that followed.  The 'audience' gaffawing 
	and giggling as Rush explains how 'Chelsea Clinton can't 
	help what she looks like'.  Nice guy. Nice audience.  Nice
	show.

	Rush is not only willing to pick on a little girl, but
	then doesn't even have gonads to stand up to what he did.
	Instead, he offers up some very lame backpeddling.  Gutless
	bully in my book......

	
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 04:05:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
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Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Followup-To: talk.abortion

In <1ekaenINNao8@agate.berkeley.edu> don@ocf.berkeley.edu (Don Bromley) writes:
>[Irrelevant data charts deleted]

Irrelevant?  In <1ek8ffINNagj@agate.berkeley.edu> you asked for them:
# Please do tell me where you got that 20-30% figure,

>  Undifferentiated tissue?  Do you realize that second and even
>  third trimester abortions are performed daily by the thousands?

No, I realize that you seem to have a problem with numbers.  The facts
are that there's about 100 third-trimester abortions performed *per year*
in this country.
--
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From: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Subject: Re: Malcom the Tenth
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:55:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Gallifrey - Home of the Timelords

In article <1992Nov21.230953.14125@seq.uncwil.edu> session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions) writes:
>greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) writes:
>
>>You are correct. Lee is not a racist on the same level with Helms. But
>>Malcolm X was. We can thank (?) Lee for not bringing that racist attitude
>>into the 90s with his film.
>
>It is debatable that the label "racist" can properly be applied to
>Malcolm X.

Only for those who believe a black can't be racist. I'll admit that the man
did a lot to raise awareness among the blacks, but a saint he wasn't.

>>I once lived in North Carolina. Unless things have changed dramatically
>>since the early 80's (they may have), you'll be well prepared for Clinton.
>>You're already taxed to death.
>
>Actually things aren't that bad, and I don't expect Clinton to be the
>cause of things getting any worse here in North Carolina.
>
>In fact, people travel to North Carolina to buy cigarettes since our
>state tax on them is lower than just about anywhere else.

True. Well, perhaps things will get better. Though the last time I was there,
Jim Hunt was governor. Here you go again! Aw heck, it's probably not his
fault. After all, there was a democratic president and congress at the
time as well. ;-)

No more followups on NC stuff unless to mail; the rest of the planet
doesn't care. ;-)

							- greg

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