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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:00:34 -0600
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: glasses and eyes
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In re Ruth's "jumping eyes":

I have had this same problem all my life.  The way they put it in the
ophthamologist's office is esotropia, which is to say that my vision is
not fused. It was surgically corrected in 1973 (I also had strabismus,
which is high-falutin' talk for crossed eyes), but regressed when I ws in
high school because of the strain put on my eyes by my contact lenses.

Today I couldn't wear contacts unless I had the surgery again, and since
it consists of detaching the muscles from the eyeball, adjusting it and
reattaching them, I think I'll pass. My prescription is worse for one eye
than the other, and I have to have a prism in my right lens in order to
focus the highest amount of light into my pupil.

But you know, when you've been wearing glasses since you were three, it
ceases to be a big deal by this point.

-----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)-------------
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:30:37 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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Posted on 22 Dec 1992 at 16:26:11 by Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)
>: "conquered," words like fuck, and shit, and cunt, are now becoming
>: commonplace, but let anyone express religious sentiments in an everyday
>: context, and this new puritanism shows its head. It's rather amusing.
>
>Provided a *man* does not use two of those three words to express
>some literal meaning.  If he does, he runs the risk of a sexual
>harassment trial.

I don't think it has to be just a literal meaning, Steve, I think these
words have to be directed to the person in question.

I hope some woman some time, Steve, never raises her eyes above your
crotch, the way that some men never raise their eyes above a woman's
chest.  These are the guys I would like to make a stop at PMS Sporting
Goods, Guns and Ammo, for.

Karen
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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 18:07:28 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Scapular chain
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> From: torkel@SICS.SE

>>Torkel, would it perhaps be the chain that is placed over the shoulders
>>and then down the chest and is attached to handcuffs or steel wrist cuffs?
>
>   No, that's ruled out by the context. It would appear, from what Karen
> says, that it's most likely a religious medallion or something hanging
> around his neck, with "scapular" having more of a historical sense.

Close enough. It would suggest that the person had something to do with
the Redemptorist Order, or one of its lay (secular -- non-clergy)
affiliates. It probably evolved from things like hair-shirts and self-
flagellation (hence the chain), as one of the many somewhat bizarre
forms of private piety that grew up in the Church since the
Reformation/Council of Trent. Such piety ceased to be a part of the
main stream of the Church since Vatican II, but it is still strong
in some areas. I believe the scapular as such involved a set of
straps (or chains, acmb) which were draped over each shoulder and
tied with a horizontal cross strap across the body, just below the
chest. At the points where the horizontal strap met the vertical
staps, small religious icons were attached. Eventually the prac-
tise changed to just wearing a small medallion with the picture
of the Blessed Virgin on it, strapped around the neck with a small
chain as used for any neck ornament. The last I was really in the know
about this kind of thing was over 30 years ago, so my memory may be some-
what inaccurate.
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From:         Emily Horning <ECZ5EJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: What's in a name?

> >I'm interested in real-life indicator names. Like a realtor named Carol
> >Hill, a weatherman named John Winter, etc. Does anyone have any data on
> >whether real indicator names drive people's destinies?
>
> Storm Field is a weatherman for WABC-TV in New York.  And that's his real
> name (his father, Dr. Frank Field, is a weatherman for WCBS-TV).

And we have Dallas Raines, KABC, channel 7.

> --Aaron

I mentioned this one the last time, but the GP in my father's home town of
Wallace, Idaho, was Dr. George Bonebrake.

Emily
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Date:         Sat, 26 Dec 1992 13:58:06 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: An observation
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Posted on 26 Dec 1992 at 13:34:42 by Anne Burton Harwell
>Besides, you have to make time for all those black-eyed peas
>that we have to eat on the 1st. ;-)

Speaking of which...I've always eaten them at other people's, but
since I'll be in California, and I don't think that's a big tradition
there, I was wondering if anyone had a favorite recipe they would like
to share.

Karen
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In a previous article, ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester) says:

>      well, yes....i'm about 20/400 in each eye....well was before the
>retina crap started up....and the left one is now about 20/400 WITH the
>glasses on....and it is supposed to improve a bit in next few months
>before they give me new glasses lens on that side....and there has always
>been astigmatism on both sides....but now the left one shows all things
>tipped down and to the right about 15 degrees, so besides being fuzzy
>nothin liines up.

In a word, YIPE!  And I thought I was bad!  That sounds like when I try to
shoot an air rifle [squirrel scaring].  THe guns are calibrated to right-eyed
people, and I'm a southpaw all the way down.[brains to toes]

>   at the moment the scary part is the different KIND of fuzziness....the
>kind i've always had is just out of focus, like when camera isn't focussed,
>just sorta fuzzy/blurry....but the left one now is wiggly....like looking
>thru glass blocks, or one of those shower doors....and lines of print
>that i can sorta read if i hold the book about four inches from my face
>are all wiggly, with lines of text that look like caterpillars, with
>each character individually distorted.   oh, well.....

EEK!  ICK!  BLETCH!  BLARG! in a major way!
>
>anyway, the dilation is going away, though it is still real sensitive to light.
>
That, for me, never does.:-(  The brighter it is outside, the blinder I am.

>could be worse....any of it beats that 50% curtain across the eyeball..and
>i am thanbkful for what has been done so far....
>
So am I - it's hard to read a screen and post crazy comments when you can't
read the darned thing!

>
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:32:39 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: An observation
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          >As best I can tell, melba toast is just thin Zweibach.

          I like this! I think it's called, in Latin, defining the obscure by th
e
        more obscure. However, I was a bit hasty with this query, because even t
he
        rotten Canadian webster I'm now reduced to invoking had the answer:

Zwei + bach -> two + bake -> bis + cuit ?

G
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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:51:33 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: On the shortage of lives on words-l

>It is an answer.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Duh, we have now started talking about Fords. Count
me out of car talk.

tushar
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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 12:18:03 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      attractiveness and such
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              24 Dec 1992 03:09:45 GMT from <kieran@WORLD.STD.COM>

On Thu, 24 Dec 1992 03:09:45 GMT Aaron L Dickey said:
>Unfortunately, less attractive women, while not having to deal with the
>catcalls as often, will find themselves locked out of so much in life that
>they deserve to experience just as much as the others.
>
   See my last post....this is just NOT the case....the main risk to women
who are 'less attractive' is lack of self esteem....and THAT can come from
men, and even more so from women, who tell them they are worthless shits
because they aren't beautiful, are chubby or fat, 'could be so pretty if
you'd just lose a few pounds', and all that.....gail can testify to that...
after years of being told she was too fat she lost lots of weight...from
330 to 119....and found that even that didn't help the selfesteem that had
been so carefully destroyed by a number of men, starting with her father...
once she learned that she WAS smart and talented and capable of doing
'hard things' like sending email and so on, things turned around....

for xmas present one of her staff gave her a tshirt saying 'Internaut'....
and she is....the HP-Boise Internet expert...as far as resources go....she
won't make any pretense of being the tcp/ip hardware/software expert, but
as long as the techies keep the damn connections running, she'll find
any of the 4500 employees on site what the need on the nets....

dan
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From:         rmcdonell@UCSD.EDU
Subject: Re: anniversaries (2
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>> On Sat, 5 Dec 1992, karsten wrote:
>> > BTW, the pinch technique might help you overcome this problem.
>>
>> You hit that one out of the park, kartsten!
>>
>> -abh
>
>Don't think it will work for robot, or rather, he won't be able to
>manage it after reading -abh's post on Madonna, because he will
>find that his <thumb> is stiff.
>--ggs


you like me! you really do!  Did you miss me?  I think so.  Just (by) a
little bit.
rmcdonell@ucsd.edu
From: LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Karen Kay)
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Posted on 28 Dec 1992 at 14:29:04 by Dan Lester
> On Fri, 25 Dec 1992 11:00:03 EST Karen Kay said:
> >I'm still in my nightie, but I am supposed to be at a friend's house for
> >brunch in six minutes!!!!!!!!!
>    Hope your friends appreciated your wearing your nightie to brunch...

I just want to set the record straight!  I dressed before I left the
house!

> >Love to wordslers everywhere!!
>    agreed completely....and especially to you....

It sounds like you are feeling MUCH better, Dan.  That's great!!

Karen
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Questions
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For the Gleanings-impaired...

>  What are the Maryknolls?

        A religious order of some sort.  Catholic, I suppose.

>  Going by car from Louisiana to New Mexico via Texas, which area would
>  "the Panhandle" refer to?

        Must be North Louisiana to Taos or Santa Fe.  Otherwise why would they
        drive all the way up north to the Panhandle?

>  "Indians in heel-worn cowboy boots": what does "heel-worn" mean here?

        Old, with the heels worn down from all that use, in need of a new heel.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:30:37 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Questions
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>   >I guess it means that the heels are worn down -- probably unevenly -- i.e.,
>   >part of the heel is thicker than another part.
>
>   But if so, is this somehow significant?

He's sloppy?  Macho-style unkemptness?

>   "Irritable" doesn't fit. There are two passages:
>
>    a) "he wouldn't piss on a cop on the pad if he was on fire",
>    b) "When you were a cop...how many guys were on a pad?"

On the beat??

>   They're the same size here. But what is the derivation of "BB"?

"A standard size of lead shot that measures about .46 cm., or 0.18 in.,
in diameter. [Perh. from the letter b.]"  American Heritage Dictionary.
What's Perh.?  I keep thinking it must be something obvious, but my mind
is blank at the moment.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:54:41 EST
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Deep Beliefs
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              22 Dec 1992 21:42:21 GMT from <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>

My brother's birthday is today, his anniversary was last Saturday, and
Christmas is Friday.  Poor kid!

Evelyn
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:25:19 -0600
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How I love the winter...
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> Hey, the ice melted!  The List came back up!  The rain stopped!  I had
> a poem accepted by _The New York Quarterly_!  The Nets beat the
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Hornets, 104-103, and Petrovic DID take out Alonzo Mourning!
>
A good day indeed!  Congratulations to you, Ken.
doris
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Christmas
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        King James Version
        Isaiah 9: 2,6

        2  The people that walked in darkness have seen
           a great light: they that dwell in the land of
           the shadow of death, upon them hath the light
           shined.

I have to say I find all the God shit deeply offensive.  Do I get
equal time to post bits from the Necronomicon?

G
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:02:45 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      gleanings from boise
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              27 Dec 1992 22:49:00 EST from <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>

On Sun, 27 Dec 1992 22:49:00 EST gilbertsmith said:
>So what do I do with 672 messages?  If I delete them, I won't know

   you want someone to tell you where to stuff them?

>what everyone has been saying about everybody else.  Nothing about me,
>I'm sure, since the list has a memory of about twelve minutes, or so

   bet Graham will disagree with that...since he has total recall of
every thread/topic/insult that has ever been on here....

>it seems.  Anybody remember who I am?

   huh?  you?   aren't you the cousin of natalie or something?
hi, gilbert.....

>--ggs (the one with the silver Miata.....)


   gleanings.....what the fucksa miata???


      mr. cyclops  o-)
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:39:11 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Deep beliefs
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> From: GUBERT@UKCC.UKY.EDU


> beliefs and not insult them.  However, if I do not believe something
> to be sacred, then I cannot profane it, nor can I be sacriligious
> unless I am operating within the religious community.  I feel certain

Explain to me then, why so many people find the use of Christ and
Jesus Christ so effective as swear words, rather than Hitler, or Stalin,
or Pontius Pilate. Funny I don't hear anyone taking the name of Moses
or Mohammed, or Allah or Buddha in vain.
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Found in a Toystore
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>        Since I was last on the list, I've gotten married, finished my
>master's work, and moved from Iowa to New York City.  My wife's studying
>ancient history at Columbia, and I'm working with books and computers in
>the library.  Things are actually fairly normal, now.

>Take care,
>Tom Lee

        I *thought* so, but didn't want to make a fool of myself if I was
        wrong.  You were at Iowa State, right?

        Welcome back!  Weren't you once 'The Lamplighter' or something similar?

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From:         Brad Baxter <BBAXTER@uga.cc.uga.edu>
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              22 Dec 1992 07:42:41 -0600 from <harwood@TENET.EDU>

>So will we gather in France or Ireland this summer? Or both?
>ndh

You may already be a wiener.

* Alt-Brad *
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:37:20 -0600
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Another List Gathering?
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> Judith and I think that we should have a list gathering in New Orleans
> sometime.  We're *not* talking about instead of the salmonbake!  The annual
> bakes need to be held places like Providence and Portland, with local
> WORDS-Lers able to arrange for appropriate bake settings etc. etc.  We're
> talking about an additional gathering sometime -- decide on a good date and
> plan on meeting somewhere in the French Quarter at a certain time -- sort of
> like the R.I. flagpole in Seattle.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Yes, yes, yes!!!!!
ndh
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Subject:      Re: English peas
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>I'd never realised how widespread that Polio Epidemic must have been. My
>childhood playmate also contracted it which was strange because he was only
>3 years old and I was the only other child he ever come into contact with and
>yet I didn't contract it at all.... his mother did blame me though for
>bringing it home from school and giving it to him. :-(

        Sad to say, it's possible.  Way back when, almost everybody got the
        respiratory infection that polio usually causes.  But most didn't get
        anything more than that from it -- it got into the CNS and destroyed
        motor neurons in the unlucky few.

        In general, the younger the exposure, the milder the case.
        Paradoxically, the epidemics of the first half of this century came
        about because sanitation improved in the West.  As water became
        cleaner, exposure to the polio virus became less frequent in the very
        young; those infected as teens or young adults, rather than as
        toddlers, were much more likely to suffer paralysis or even death.  The
        situation is similar to measles -- though childhood measles is a pretty
        serious disease (much more so than childhood polio), adult measles is a
        *very* serious disease.  A great many adults *died* from measles when
        it was first introduced onto the island of Mauritius (if memory serves,
        the year was 1866).

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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Who's Next?

I know this family of which two family members have been on TV this year,
most recent one on NBC.  I didn't see it, but does anyone recall seeing a
little new item (on NBC) about this middle age man who had a "woman wanted"
sign in his front yard?  The man was being interviewed about the sign, showed
him sitting by cozy fireplace, white haired, short white beard.  Well, the
man got about a 100 or so phone calls from all over the United States ..
but don't know if anyone accepted his offer.  The man is my brother ....and
other TV celebrity? ...my mother when she received her high school
diploma at age 80.

And this just for Graham:  I will probably get my turn on TV when they show
my sheet-draped body found horribly mutilated (probably by wild boars)
in the Pasco jungles.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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