HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: LSD,STP, etc.
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 20:16:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.084239.1@skcla.monsanto.com> mpmena@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>>...saw a show on TV last night about the 'rediscovery' of LSD...
>
>Yeah, my wife and I were flabbergasted!  As soon as the reporters finished a
>ten minutes segment on the sensationalist bullshit and hysteria that occurred
>in the '60s, they interviewed current "experts" who reiterated most of the same
>crap  (at least they gave up on the chromosome damage story).

    If you're "fixed" or out of order I guess it's safe to do it then, huh?

>Gee, I wonder which is more dangerous... LSD or cigarettes?

   In both cases, it depends on what you do with it.

>
>  "IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A VACATION, YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE A TRIP!"
>

Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 
doh # 000069.000 
      000074  (Panhead displacement)
      3 15/32 (Panhead bore)
'57 FL  (Ol' Beasty)
'76 XLCH (Hoss)
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar. (Leapin' Lena)


==============================================================

 "Acid:   A substance that allows you to visit strange places
  without a passport"
                        OZ Biker 1992
**************************************************************


Organization: Hardware Maintenance, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 1993 07:29:12 -0500 
From: John Makel <jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: mor fake yuppy crap
Distribution: usa

Ed writes>>

     The other day I saw the ultimate in vehicular fakery. A shiny
new Toyota 4X4 with fake mud painted on.

Ed, there is no end to the facade of foolishness that we see today,
fake harleys, fake parts on harleys, fake riders on harleys, 
fakers faking fakers etc.,etc., Isn't great to live in the USA
where else can you get more entertainment and not cost 
you dime? And can you really believe that the clowns who 
buy, imitate, or codone this type of sh*t are real people?
There is a "FOOL" born every minute.
Enjoy the show its' not over yet................................


					john...
Get your tickets Here!!!

16F
78FX
80FXB
91FXRS
92FLHTC
HOG
AMA
ABATE
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: TRIKE FRAME. 
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 19:28:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.173838.19820@nrtpa038.bnr.ca> ethomas@bnr.ca () writes:
>I posted this several weeks ago, no response, so I'll try again.
>Anyone out there have an idea what the following frame is worth???
>
>	late model Harley trike frame
>	Year:	????
>		(dual down tubes)
>
>		radical rake >50 deg
>
>		lots of molding work
>
>Please post a response ASAP.
>
>As a gimp rider, I've converted a '75 FLH to a trike by building a
>new swing arm to attach to a pre 60's HD Servi-car axle.  Works great
>and the bike can be converted back to original in nothing flat!
>
>"Sled"
>
>81 Sport
>75 FLH (trike) 
>
>

   A stock G series frame with the tank mounting tabs goes for $500 to
$700. Stock with the tabs cut off is worth around $400 - $475. The one
you describe is something someone made or totally redesigned, as HD used
the same single downtube frame with the cast iron footplate from '54 to
'73 (the last year they made them) with only minor modifications to accomadate
electric starting and the belt driven alternator. With exception of the mount
plate added just ahead of the rear axle for the master cylinder, this is
pretty much the same frame used from '32 up. If it is really well done and
you find someone who wants to build a show trike, you might get as much as
$700 to $900. If the work is ok and the buyer is building a street trike,
$350 to $500.

BTW, WayDen Enterprises makes a trike conversion kit for '58 - '84 swing
arm frames and softtails. They also have a Servicar compatable axle that
can be run upside down more safely than the Servicar type. (The Servicar
had a stiffening brace across the bottom)

Their phone numbers are 414-538-1025 (voice) and 414-538-1835 (FAX)


Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 

'57 FL  (Ol' Beasty)
'76 XLCH (Hoss)
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar. (Leapin' Lena)


==============================================================
   "If the leaf doesn't look something like your hand,
    don't smoke it!"
                    Grandmother 1956 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: FXRS-CON Windshield, Bags, Polishing questions...
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:21:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.141353.5113@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> dobosz_m@wfooff.enet.dec.com (Mike Dobosz) writes:
>
>
>Oh, heck...I'm on a roll now...let's talk about buffing/polishing.
>
>The primary cover, as well as a few other aluminum bits, is showing a bit
>of corrosion.  This is not a chrome-plated one, so I'm wondering what are
>the best methods to polish the aluminum and keep it looking good...I'm not
>(yet) interested in doing the chrome route. 
>
    This worked well on my XLCH;
     With a variable speed drill and a small cotton polishing wheel (so you
can get into the tight places), polish the aluminum with jewelers rouge or
a special aluminun polish such as Mothers. Run the drill at low speed to
avoid burning the polish. Use plenty of polish and clean the wheel often
to avoid scratching.
     When the polishing is finished, clean the polish resedue off the
cover and spray it with clear paint to keep it from oxidizing. It is
best to do this as soon as possible, raw aluminum tends to oxidize quickly
untill it develops a protective coating of oxide.

Ed Campbell
	Email ed@Tekelec.com (seems to work)
From: max@admin.mport.COM (Max)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Who buys these things?
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:00:47 GMT
Organization: Microport Inc., Scotts Valley, CA 95066 US of A

terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:

>In article <2094@admin.mport.COM>, max@admin.mport.COM (Max) writes:
>> terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) frothes:
>> >In article <2046@admin.mport.COM>, max@admin.mport.COM (Max) writes:
>> >a meme about:
>> >> middle age yuppie scum will cruze up and down melrose with
>> >> really-loud-pipes (tm) on their brand new harleys in some misguided attempt
>> >> at recapuring what cool people did whan they were young in the 50s. 
>> 
>> perhaps you should follow the conversation. the question was "where do new
>> harleys with 500miles on the odomiter come from?"
>> perhaps in this context, my response makes more sense to you.

>You labelled as misguided someone else's reasons for wanting a bike (above).
>I was not responding to the original question, just your attempt to
>cast some other riders as somehow being less worthy of owning a Harley.
>It was your vehemence that I responded to.

ah, and so we come to the centre of the thought, which is this:

it seems, to me, that posing on a new hd on melrose is often less
satisfying than actually riding one regularly, as evidenced by the
presence of almost unused latemodel hd forsale.  (where do they come
from?)

but, frothe on, man...

>It's interesting how some Harley owners get so uptight about the
>kind of people that are attracted to their brand. Do you feel
>threatened if the 'wrong' people are riding Harleys?
  
while imitation is a sincere form of flattery, the temporary fashon of
looking like the dethrideroftheapocolypse sometimes comes across with all
the charm of a bad fake english accent. threatening? no, just a little
amusing. 


>Terry

-max
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From: jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Makel)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: How much ?
Date: 11 Jan 93 02:51:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wfIKpT_00WAEI3_ksR
Distribution: world
Organization: Hardware Maintenance, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Lucifer(neat NAME)writes>>


How much costs Super Glide (evolution engine -85 or newer) in 
East Coast of USA ?  How about England ? 

 Evo Super-glides on the 85 and newer will run anywhere from 6500-7000 minimum
to as high as 9,800 for the newer ones(91-92), new superglides sell for
about 10,500
and are pretty much stripped but a good buy.  These prices are flexible
for those years
as condition and miles can cause price to vary, however I have not seen 
to date 
any cheap Evo big twins, like in the 5-5500 price range, if there are
they are sold 
quicker than crap or to friends of the bikes owners. A damnged(wrecked
etc.,) can cost
a ton to put back to stock if you chose so(Although if I would find one
in that condition
I would CHOP it-Hey John Stafford I bet that puts a grin on your face!),
anyways as
to the price in England some other netters out there could probably give
you an idea
of their worth. Oh what would a damaged Evo big twin sell for, depending
on severity
of the damage if the engine was good I would speculate 2-3000! Good luck
in finding
what you are looking for, and keep us posted as to what you do.


						john...


Somwhere between Heaven and Hell, but things are looking UP!

16F
47Indian
78FX
80FXB
91FXRS
92FLHTC
HOG
AMA
ABATE
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Who buys these things?
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 20:56:43 GMT

In article <1iclsaINNnl6@rave.larc.nasa.gov> kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:

>>    Shit yes, I'd like to be 18 again, if it included a price rollback!
>>I would love to be able to buy a new FLH with Speed King saddlebags, custom
>>paint, and dual fishtails for 900 bucks.
>
>Yeah, but remember how much money you were making when you were 18?
>--scott

    That's a point. But then, they let me keep a lot more of it. Maybe we
should start lobying foe a 10:1 currency reform with no change in the
income tax schedules. Let's see, 12 - 15 cents for a loaf of bread, 2 bits
a drink at the watering hole, 8% tax bracket, yeah, I could live with that.
COme to think of it, the Harley I had then was only 19 yrs old, so you could
say I was better off then.

Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 

'57 FL  (Ol' Beasty)
'76 XLCH (Hoss)
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar. (Leapin' Lena)

 
==============================================================

 "Acid:   A substance that allows you to visit strange places
  without a passport"
                        OZ Biker 1992
**************************************************************



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: THE doh LIST
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 19:57:45 GMT

I received severe abuse for errors in the last one I posted!  So here
it is the last time!  You want another copy, it's here via anon ftp.

Looking for an owner!
......................................................................
                       The doh List
                  Last updated 01-06-93

      This resides in /pub/doh/doh.list on 131.78.6.88

0000000001	Ken Dykes	thinkage!kgdykes
0000000002	Paul Blumstein	paulb@harley.tti.com
0000000003	Michael Menard	mpmena@monsanto.com
0000000004	Charlie Smith	charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org
0000000005	james.j.dutton	jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
0000000013	Eddie Kieger	efk00@cd.amdahl.com
        13	John Makel	jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu
      0069	James K. Rye	rye@mahogany209.cray.com
000000069.00000 Ed Campbell	ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp
00000000074.0000 Ed Campbell	ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp
0000000666	ivan.w.gregory	igregory@cbnewsb.cb.att.com
0000000750	Pat Loughery	patlo@microsoft.com
   3 31/32	Ed Campbell	ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp
0000001066	Dan Sorenson	viking@iastate.edu
0000001200	Neal Howard	neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org
0000001340	Chuck Rogers	car377#druhi.att.com
0000001338	Carl Paukstis	carlp@mail.isc-br.com 
0000001340	Carl Paukstis	carlp@mail.isc-br.com 
0000001956	John Stafford	Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU
9999999999	Craig DeForest	zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: mor fake yuppy crap
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 7 Jan 93 08:17:17 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.harley
Distribution: usa
Organization: MSUS

In article <1993Jan06.225752.5149@gecko.uucp>, ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed
Campbell) wrote:
> 
>      The other day I saw the ultimate in vehicular fakery. A shiny
> new Toyota 4X4 with fake mud painted on.

and I heard yesterday that bell bottoms are coming back, saw a show
on TV last night about the 'rediscovery' of LSD and even the Hells
Angels are franchising.

These are interesting times.  I'm glad I live in the boonies.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com (chris dehahn)
Subject: Re: lane-splitting etiquette (& **** Harley questions ****)
Reply-To: dehahn@strokr.shr.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:41:05 GMT

--

In article <1993Jan5.000823.15147@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com
(charles.a.rogers) writes:
|>In article <1993Jan4.184645.14034@megatek.com>, tomw@megatek.com (Tom Wright)
|>writes:
|>> In article <1992Dec30.204916.14840@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David
|>Svoboda) writes:
|>> >In article <1992Dec23.184102.9663@megatek.com> tomw@megatek.com writes:
|>> >
|>> >Chains are required for situations of high stress and low clearance.  A
|>belt
|>> >just cannot take that sort of stress.  
|>> 
|>> I believe I've read that supercharger belts on top fuel dragsters transmit 
|>> roughly 300 hp. Clearly if chains were better for this, these people would 
|>> use chains. 

You're comparing apples to oranges.

Top fuel Harleys put out at least 300 hp and many, if not most, run a
primary belt drive. They shred them on a regular basis. It's part of
the cost of racing. The only reason they use them is that the belt with
aluminum pulleys weigh at least half of a comparable chain rig.

CdH

<<<<<<<<<<<<   Ninety eight....don't be late  >>>>>>>>>>>>
Chris deHahn....CdH....Digital Equipment Shrewsbury MA USA
dehahn@shr.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: insurance
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:53:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.172553.14332@sequent.com> eds@sequent.com (Ed "The Red" Snider) writes:
+
+
+
+I'm thinking of checking out the insurance companies advertised
+in the HOG magazine, Dairyland and Midwest Mutual, and was wondering
+if anyone has any pros/cons on either of them.

If you live in California (as I think you do), forget Dairyland.
They bailed out of California as soon as prop 103(?) was voted in.

If you want a full insurance package, check out universal underwriters.
If you can't find a local broker that carries them, call their agent,
Sullivan & Sullivan:  415/324-1125, 714/834-1478, 213/488-1155 or
619/235-4488.
____________________________________________________________________________
			Bye, George.  By George!
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: THE doh ROSTER
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:44:07 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <1992Dec24.024110.22585@thinkage.on.ca>, kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes) writes:
> explain to me why we should explain anything to you?
> and my dickie is big enough to go over my head, isnt yours?

Nope,  I guess all those years of trying to blow yourself payed off.

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed ?"  |
 | DoD# 541   Drink 'old Draino'      |                              Weed    |
 | Highly Individual Flaming Idiot    |                                      |
From: zcollier@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Scottish Bastard)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: M-6 chain tensioner
Keywords: Keywords?  please....
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:05:53 GMT

I recently went over an archive of mine in which Arnie Skurow mentions
the M-6 chain tensioner by Tom Hayden Enterprises.  I am very interested
in this product, but no address is given.  I'm hoping that someone
here on the net (Perhaps even the legendary Arnie himself) knows this
address and is magnanimous enough to share it.  :)

Thanks, 
Zander

BTW - Can I be doh #000000022?

-- 
------
Gimme Ol' Glory, Ol' Hickry, The Constitution, Jack Daniels', Winchester,
And Harley-Davidson.
American by Birth, Southern by the Grace of God.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: mor fake yuppy crap
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 19:52:52 GMT

In article <Stafford-070193081317@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>In article <1993Jan06.225752.5149@gecko.uucp>, ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed
>Campbell) wrote:
>> 
>>      The other day I saw the ultimate in vehicular fakery. A shiny
>> new Toyota 4X4 with fake mud painted on.
>
>and I heard yesterday that bell bottoms are coming back, saw a show
>on TV last night about the 'rediscovery' of LSD and even the Hells
                                             ^^^
     Is that the old "brown dot on a sugar cube" type that lasted for days,
or the mild mannered more recent kind?

>Angels are franchising.
>
>These are interesting times.  I'm glad I live in the boonies.


Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 
doh # 000069.000 
      000074  (Panhead displacement)
      3 15/32 (Panhead bore)
'57 FL  (Ol' Beasty)
'76 XLCH (Hoss)
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar. (Leapin' Lena)


==============================================================

 "Acid:   A substance that allows you to visit strange places
  without a passport"
                        OZ Biker 1992
**************************************************************


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: Who buys these things?
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 21:24:08 GMT

In article <Stafford-050193133907@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>
>Out of curiosity, I ran Managing Your Money's inflator/deflator option
>and came up with this:
>
>$14,000 in 1992 was $2,868 in 1957   (the FL)
>$37,000 in 1992 was $7,579 in 1957   (middle income salary)
>
>Just curious as to how accurate these figures might be.  How much
>was a '57 FL(H) in '57?  Or does Ed go back further? (18 in 1957?)

    In '58, the FLH was about $900 (depending on extras)
                FL base model $800 - $825 varying with dealer
    Triumph Trophy 650 TT     $600 with 2 Amels and megaphone pipes
    Triumph Trophy 650        $535 single carb totally stock
    Velocette 500 Manx        $475

    Bikes (and cages) cost much less after inflation adjustement because
they were designed by engineers instead of politicians back then. I remember
a friend of mine stopping by the shop where I worked to show me a cashiers
check for $1050 made out to Laidlaw's HD, the out-the-door price of his new
FLH with the big saddlebags, windshield, buddy seat, spotlights, 2 tone paint,
etc. When he came back to show off the bike, I offered to trade my '39 ULH, but
he wasn't interested.



Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 

'57 FL  (Ol' Beasty)
'76 XLCH (Hoss)
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar. (Leapin' Lena)


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
        "Sony, if you don't fall on yer ass once in a while,
         you aint ridin' fast enough"
                        Grandmother, to Ed Kretz, 1946
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp (Doug Rinckes)
Subject: Indian parts for sale
Reply-To: drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp
Organization: Telecommunications Systems Support Centre, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:30:45 GMT

As the .sig says, I have an Indian 741B.  Hopefully, not for too much longer,
as I am going to sell it off at the end of January.

I will be left with a large quantity of spares, which I have catalogued into
a list.

If anyone is interested in getting hold of some spares from me I will
be only too happy to send you a copy of the list.

You will have to be fairly quick, as I am sick and tired of tripping over the
boxes in my garage, and will sell the whole lot in one go if possible.

Replies by e-mail, please.

Doug Rinckes   drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp   TSSC New Zealand Ltd
1976 BMW R100S           1960 BMW R60           1940 Indian 741B       

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: crsg9887@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chad R. Sandstrom)
Subject: Re: Nostalgia Glide: Wonderful or Wacko?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:41:32 GMT

jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:


>Am I the only one that moved in a deeply spiritual way by the new
>Nostalgia Glide?

No siree, count me and that makes two(2). Please don't count the
soulless greedy fellows who have been trying to sell theirs for 
$20k and up in the Chicago Trib.
I did add the extra headlights (for visibility I reasoned;)
I did add the windshield (comes off when the wind chill is << 0F)
I did add the crash bars (saved my butt when jiffy stand didn't lock in)
I did add the matching cowhide backrest (for my baby)
I did get to ride this new scoot just over 1k miles since I got it
on Halloween and now that winter has closed in on me here in Minnesota
I can only let it idle as I prepare the MooGlide for a long nap.
I'd send in a scanned picture if anyone is interested and Oldchop
sent the primer on what format is required (It would be my first)

A Spiritual FLSTN skipper^H^H^H^H^Hpilot
Chad Sandstrom

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: mpmena@skcla.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: LSD,STP, etc.
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.harley
Organization: Searle, Skokie, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:42:39 GMT

>...saw a show on TV last night about the 'rediscovery' of LSD...

Yeah, my wife and I were flabbergasted!  As soon as the reporters finished a
ten minutes segment on the sensationalist bullshit and hysteria that occurred
in the '60s, they interviewed current "experts" who reiterated most of the same
crap  (at least they gave up on the chromosome damage story).

Gee, I wonder which is more dangerous... LSD or cigarettes?

Michael Menard
doh 0000000003 -Nah, it's Thursday, maybe I'll be 0003030440607 today!


  "IF YOU CAN'T TAKE A VACATION, YOU MIGHT AS WELL TAKE A TRIP!"


>                                                               
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley
From: serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin)
Subject: Re: mor fake yuppy crap
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:37:42 GMT

In article <1ii57nINN8qb@rave.larc.nasa.gov> kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) writes:
>In article <EfH28M_00WAE00UlB5@andrew.cmu.edu> John Makel <jm4b+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Ed writes>>
>>
>>     The other day I saw the ultimate in vehicular fakery. A shiny
>>new Toyota 4X4 with fake mud painted on.
>
>Wow!  Maybe if I don't wash the truck, then it'll increase its resale
>value.

If that's true, mine oughtta be a gold mine.  I can't remember the last time 
it got washed.  I seem to remember it being painted black originally, but now
it's a nice gray/brown.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.harley