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From: jdell@nefertiti.mit.edu (John Ellithorpe)
Subject: Re: Can f77 be taught not to use /tmp?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:34:31 GMT

On Wed, 20 Jan 1993 18:56:27 GMT, shmuel@mapsut.einstein.com (Shmuel Einstein) said:
> Nntp-Posting-Host: mapsut.einstein.com

> Our Sparc systems have the default configuration for disk partitioning, which
> gives us a whopping 7.25 MB for the root partition.  This brilliant amount
> makes the /tmp directory quite tight to say the least, let alone that it
> compete's with /var/tmp.  We have moved /var/tmp to another partition and
> linked it back to /var with no problem.

> It seems that f77 uses /tmp as its temporary file repository.  For large
> compilations, we run out of space.  Although there is an option for allowing
> the compiler passes to communicate via pipes, it seems that there should be
> a way of designating the compiler's temporary directory also.

> If one cannot change the compiler's temp directory, is it permissable to
> change /tmp to point to space on another partition?  I am concerned because
> of single-user mode and various other aspects of system activity which may
> be affected before the system has not mounted other partitions.

I'm pretty sure it's in the man pages.  But here it is, just use the -temp=dir
option, and all files go there.

I usually just put this in my Makefiles:

F77=f77 -temp=mytemparea

Hope this helps,

John

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From: mxh@Autodesk.COM (Martin Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: TEAMMate UNIX BBS?
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:44:38 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


I am trying to find out any information I can on this product.  I do not even
have a company name.  I seem to remember TeamMate as a UNIX-based BBS (bulletin
board system).  Any information or pointers would be appreciated.

					Thanks,
					----Martin----

Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.apps:3073 comp.unix.programmer:6034 comp.unix.internals:2156
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.internals
Subject: Re: modifying ARGV within a running program
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:34:09 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.apps
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>Since this is going to comp.sys.sun.apps: on Suns running SunOS, at
>least---I know nothing about the new Solaris systems

The new Solaris systems are, just like the old Solaris systems, systems
running SunOS.

They just happen to be running SunOS 5.x rather than SunOS 4.x.

I.e., Solaris 1.x consists of SunOS 4.1.y plus Open Windows 2.0 or 3.0
plus DeskSet 2.0 or 3.0; Solaris 2.x consists of SunOS 5.y (so far,
x = y) plus Open Windows 3.a.b plus DeskSet 3.a.b.

> ---the strings ps prints are found at the top of the user stack.  (This
> is true in all traditional BSD-based systems.)

In SunOS 5.x, the string "ps" prints is, most likely, in a special chunk
of kernel memory; this is true in most SVR3-or-later SV-based systems.

I.e., if Sun didn't change that as part of whacking on SVR4, you can't
change what "ps" prints simply by modifying stuff in your address space,
just as you can't do so on traditional SVR3-based or SVR4-based systems.

(SVR3 sticks it in the U area; dunno if AT&T's SVR4 releases have a U
area, but SunOS 5.x might not.  What those systems stick there is a
string constructed by gluing the first N characters worth of arguments
together with spaces between them; N = 80 in SVR3.0.)
From: jh26@prism.gatech.EDU (Jay Harrell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Recommendations for wordporcessor wanted.
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:36:05 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


I want to be able to do (very) simple word processing on my IPX and
I'm looking for a not too expensive word processor.  Please send
via EMail or post recommendations with prices.  Free via ftp would
be my prefered solution right now.

thanks

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: graaff@IS.TWI.TUDelft.NL (Hans de Graaff)
Subject: Re: Large hvtmp files left in /tmp?
Reply-To: graaff@IS.TWI.TUDelft.NL
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:21:44 GMT

In article 727730217@unix1.tcd.ie, ghawkins@unix1.tcd.ie (George C. Hawkins) writes:
>
>Some program here keeps on leaving behind a large (greater than
>0.5Mb) file called hvtmpBAAa06214 (letters after hvtmp appear to
>be random) in /tmp on the Sun IPXs here. Whatever's doing it is
>doing something seriously strange as the date on these files is
>always Sep 18 1991. If a couple of these files build up in /tmp
>the root filesystem becomes full (only 8Mb if assigned to /). As
>the machines are used by many different people the files invariably
>belong to someone other than yourself and the only way to rescue
>the machine is to reboot the machine (L1-A) if you're not root,
>which will clear /tmp. I searched the binaries on the machines and
>found that in helpviewer in /usr/openwin/bin contains the null
>terminated string "hvtmp". So I suspect it might be this program.
>Anyone else had this problem, if so do you know how to fix it
>(remove helpviewer)?

You're right, helpviewer is the culprit. It writes its PostScript document 
to /tmp when started, and only removes it when helpviewer is quit
normally. When you quit OpenWindows without quitting helpviewer first,
it will leave the file there.

My solution has been to remove helpviewer from the applications the get
started as a default application (in /usr/openwin/lib/openwin-init).
It doesn't entirly solve the problem, but it helps.


Hans
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: sroth@jabba.mavd.honeywell.com (Steve Roth)
Subject: Installation instructions for Xkernel
Organization: Honeywell MAvD, St. Louis Park, MN
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:09:18 GMT

Has anybody gotten the Xkernel package to work?  I just got version 1.4,
unshar'ed it and can't seem to find instructions on how to set it up.

I put it in the /export/root directory, and changed my bootparams file to 
boot from the Xkernel.sun3 directory and the diskless node comes up with 
a message that it can't mount that directory.  I can't see any reason why -
protections seem ok, the directory /export/root is exported from the server.

If you have any suggestions as to what I'm doing wrong, please reply.

Thanks, 

Steve
sroth@sol.mavd.honeywell.com
From: dror@FibHaifa.com (Dror Caspi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Information on VAX edt emulator for SUN
Date: 21 Jan 93 06:40:25 GMT
Reply-To: dror@FibHaifa.com
Organization: Fibronics LTD., Haifa - ISRAEL
Originator: dror@goya


In article <28@sairam.com>, sairam@sairam.COM (Prakash Vaidya) writes:
|> 
|> Does anyone know if there is a VAX edt editor emulator available
|> for the SUN WorkStation ?
|> Please send details to sun@sairam.com
|> I would appreciate your assistance. Thanks.

GNU Emacs has an edt emulation mode. Don't know more details bacause
I have never tried it. Or get Lucid emacs 19 - it is even better. Both
run on Sparc (and almost on any other Unix machine).

Dror

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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:22:53 EST
From: James D. Watson <JW1675A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Looking for: You type,it talks

Hi: does anyone have a program which will interpret ASCII text and enunciate
it through the Sun speaker?  I would try ARCHIE, but have no idea what to
look for.  I'm looking for something that, when I type "Hello Mr. So-n-So" it
would SAY "Hello Mister so-n-so"

I've heard rumers that such exists for Sun...  I know it exists for the PCs,
so I can't imagine Sun doesn't have it!

Private e-mail or postings are fine.  THanks much,
Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: kobet@xsun2a.ct.picker.com (Harry J Kobetitsch)
Subject: Killing Motif Applications on Sun
Organization: Picker International, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:57:37 GMT

I am trying to kill a Motif application by double clicking on the
top leftmost button. The application disappears but when doing a
ps -alx I still find that the application running. This is
running on a Sun SPARCstation IPX with Motif 1.1.4 installed.

Does anyone have some insight on this ?

Thanks...
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.apps:3132 comp.graphics.animation:1798 comp.graphics:14322
From: rel@mtu.edu (Robert Landsparger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.graphics.animation,comp.graphics
Subject: Sun GS (cgtwelve) Board
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:40:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Michigan Technological University

I am interested in programming the GS card.  Is there an online refference
that will point me in the right direction?  I have some digital elevation
and tm information, and would like to do a faster spin animation
that we get with some of the visualation software we currently have.

Thanks,
	Bob

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From: rjq@phys.ksu.edu (Rob Quinn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Putting /tmp in /usr (was Re: Can f77 be taught not to use /tmp?)
Date: 24 Jan 1993 02:40:16 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu

In <447@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
[talking about making f77 use something other than a small /tmp]
>While this isn't a perfect solution, all of our systems have been reconfigured
>so that none of the temp space is in / (root).  Sun's brilliant idea of
>providing temp directories in a filesystem that is way too small is rediculous
>So, the following is done:
>	rm -r /tmp /var/tmp /usr/tmp
>	mkdir /usr/tmp
>	chmod 777 /usr/tmp
>	ln -s /usr/tmp /tmp
>	ln -s /usr/tmp /var/tmp

 It's very common to share /usr between machines. Won't your method cause
a lot of problems? I thought the whole idea behind /usr was that it would
contain files that never (rarely) changed, and that didn't need to be tailored
to each host. Host specific files go in / or /var.
 Also, I would suggest a 'chmod +t' on your temp directories.

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From: tbodine@utig.ig.utexas.edu (Tom Bodine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Can f77 be taught not to use /tmp?
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:33:39 GMT

In refrenced article Mr. Einstein states:

> ...it seems that there should be a way of designating the compiler's 
>  temporary directory also.

Here is how I do it:

In my .cshrc :

setenv TEMP '-temp=/usr3/tbodine

In my f77 makefile:

FFLAGS = -g -U -u $(TEMP)

$(EXEC) : $(OBJECTS)  
        $(FC) $(FFLAGS) -o $(EXEC) $(OBJECTS)  $(LDFLAGS) $(LDLIBS)

This way f77 will write its temporary files on /usr3/tbodine instead of /tmp


		regards Tom Bodine

note: These are MY opinions!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: rthau@qualix.com (Rick Thau)
Subject: Re: looking for PD packet analyser
Reply-To: rthau@qualix.com
Organization: QUALiX Group, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:05:21 GMT

In article 728029601@marsh, jim@cs.curtin.edu.au (Jim McGrady) writes:
>Greetings
>
>Can some kind, knowlegable soul mail me the ftp address of a site
>holding any public domain/ shareware net management tools for a
>Sun Sparc station? I am particularly interested in a protocol analyser.
>
>Thanks in Advance
>
>Jim
>

Jim,

Though not public domain, the NetScope product does an excellent job at this. You
may obtain more information by contacting info@qualix.com

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From: caxbf@scax03pki-nbg.philips.de ( Bernd Fohringer   )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: SUN QuickCheck 1.0 supported for SUNOS 4.1.1 ???
Keywords: QuickCheck
Date: 21 Jan 93 09:01:35 GMT
Reply-To: caxbf@pki-nbg.philips.de
Organization: Philips Communication Systems, Nuernberg, Germany


Is there anyone out there, who has ever tried to install Sun's
QuickCheck 1.0 on a 4.1.1 machine. Release notes tell, that this
product is only supported for 4.1 and 4.1-PSRA.

Regards 
Bernd Fohringer

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From: zlsiimw@info.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: X server for PC running PC/NFS
Date: 22 Jan 93 10:10:55 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <146944@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV>, johnson@akula.llnl.gov (  Robert
Johnson          ) writes:
|> We are Sun workstation users who have recently started using a
|> PC for a specific project.  The PC is a 486DX50 and we plan on
|> using a 3COM Etherlink III card running PC/NFS 4.0.  The Sun
|> server will be a SPARCstation 2 running SunOS 4.1.2.  We would
|> also like to have an X server for the PC preferably running under
|> MS Windows 3.1.  We would like to have MS Windows applications
|> running along side X sessions.  We would therefore greatly
|> appreciate any email with pro/con recommendations for X servers
|> for the PC, especially from people experienced with a setup similar 
|> to ours.

Hummingbird eXceed/W will do this; I can recommend it but don't have
any experience of similar products to make comparisons. They also do
a non-MS Windows version (i.e. standalone under DOS) which I would also
recommend.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x,comp.sources.wanted,misc.consumers.house
From: ron@mlfarm.com (Ronald Florence)
Subject: PD cad program for X-windows?
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.apps
Organization: Maple Lawn Farm, Stonington, CT
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:40:01 GMT

Is there a PD or "copyleft" program similar to auto-cad or auto-desk
available for X-windows?  I've tried xfig for designing gardens and
wooden farm equipment, and would welcome suggestions for something
closer in operation to a computer-aided-design program.  For
incidental use on a small sheep farm, I don't think we can afford
commercial workstation cad programs.

Thanks.
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				ron@mlfarm.com
From: pstatcw@psy.gatech.edu (Christopher Whaley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Request for information
Date: 25 Jan 1993 18:52:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: psy.gatech.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


[I apologize in advance for those of you who read the related (but
 distinct) groups to which I have cross-posted]

I am conducting a research project which requires the use of 
full-motion video and/or animation.  The problem is to simulate the 
output from video cameras that overlook roads and highways.  The system 
operator would be able to control camera zoom and pan, and would need to 
be able to view traffic under at least hundreds of different conditions.
It is possible that we will consider using pre-recorded video to be 
displayed under computer control, but animated video techniques are 
also being considered.  I am specifically interested in information 
regarding:  

o Hardware for various platforms (SGI, Sun, Mac, PC)
o Software for animation and recommended platforms
o Storage devices best suited for storing large amounts of compressed video
o U.S. Companies which have animation production facilities

In addition to the above items, we would also be interested in hearing 
about any extremely high-end (supercomputer-based?) systems that might 
be used in the animation industry.  


Any experiences you would like to share about the above issues would 
be appreciated.  If a significant number of responses are received 
I will be glad to post a summary.

Please send email to pstatcw@psy.gatech.edu

Thank you,

Chris Whaley
pstatcw@psy.gatech.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: berg@physik.tu-muenchen.de (Stephen R. van den Berg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Thou hast new mail
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:44:53 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik - RWTH Aachen
NNTP-Posting-Host: ikki.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Originator: berg@ikki

Michael Salmon writes:
>In article <1993Jan15.064009.27954@Princeton.EDU>
>lardieri@hotlips.Princeton.EDU (Stephen Lardieri) writes:
>|> How can one get /usr/openwin/bin/mail (the OpenWindows replacement for
>|> /usr/ucb/mail) to give the "Thou hast new mail" message as opposed to
>|> the more modern "You have new mail" message?  (The string is in there,
>|> according to strings (1).)

>There was a lot of discussion about this at one time. To get this
>message there needs to be an error, unfortunately I don't remember what
>the error was.

If I recall correctly, it had something to do with the mtime
of your system mailbox.

I think that if you manage to get the mtime to be later than the current time
this message is displayed.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: tim@hssc.scarolina.edu (Tim White)
Subject: Re: Large hvtmp files left in /tmp?
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:07:04 GMT

ghawkins@unix1.tcd.ie (George C. Hawkins) writes:


>Some program here keeps on leaving behind a large (greater than
>0.5Mb) file called hvtmpBAAa06214 (letters after hvtmp appear to

>If it's of importance the Suns are running SunOS 4.1.2 and
>OpenWindows 3 (or X11R5).

   I notice this last week on a user's workstation. Since it is a postscript
  file I used pageview to look at it. It was the Sun Postscript introduction
  to the desktop.  He also had several copies in /tmp.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Can f77 be taught not to use /tmp?
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:10:51 GMT

In article <447@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.185627.19507@mapsut.einstein.com> shmuel@mapsut.einstein.com (Shmuel Einstein) writes:
><
><If one cannot change the compiler's temp directory, is it permissable to
><change /tmp to point to space on another partition?  
>
>While this isn't a perfect solution, all of our systems have been reconfigured
>so that none of the temp space is in / (root).  
>
>	mkdir /usr/tmp
>	chmod 777 /usr/tmp

Note: the permissions really should be 1777, to set the sticky bit so that 
users can only delete files that belong to them. Otherwise, if you have write
permission on the directory, you can delete any of the files in it regardless
of who owns them.

Use this mode on any directory where everyone needs to be able to write, but
you want some measure of control over file access.
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From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Putting /tmp in /usr (was Re: Can f77 be taught not to use /tmp?)
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:33:30 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1jsvihINNfe5@moe.ksu.ksu.edu> rjq@phys.ksu.edu (Rob Quinn) writes:
<In <447@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<[talking about making f77 use something other than a small /tmp]
<>While this isn't a perfect solution, all of our systems have been reconfigured
<>so that none of the temp space is in / (root).  Sun's brilliant idea of
<>providing temp directories in a filesystem that is way too small is rediculous
<>So, the following is done:
<>	rm -r /tmp /var/tmp /usr/tmp
<>	mkdir /usr/tmp
<>	chmod 777 /usr/tmp
<>	ln -s /usr/tmp /tmp
<>	ln -s /usr/tmp /var/tmp
<
< It's very common to share /usr between machines. Won't your method cause
<a lot of problems? I thought the whole idea behind /usr was that it would
<contain files that never (rarely) changed, and that didn't need to be tailored
<to each host. Host specific files go in / or /var.

As a rule around here and machines that we ship, /usr as a whole is not
exported.  While various sub-directories are, they are on a case-by-case basis.

While this method isn't perfect, it is sure is a lot better than the amount of
space that Sun lets you have for temp space, when they configure the systems.
The / partition is NEVER big enough to hold squat.

< Also, I would suggest a 'chmod +t' on your temp directories.

I don't remember that being set as shipped either.  Will it make that much of
a performance difference on a directory?
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