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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Re: Souness shits on UEFA and the referee
Organization: Wits University
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 16:52:53 RSA

>If she does masturbate to Souness every night, I'm sure she enjoys it
>and there's nothing wrong with that!
>
>Denise also has a perfect right to voice whatever opinions she has in
>r.s.s as long as they are relevant to football.  You cannot censor her
>for her fanatical support of the team and the manager she undoubtedly
>loves.
>
>For those perturbed by Denise's postings, you have obviously forgotten
>the Magic Key on your computer's keyboard.  Take a second to look down.
>Its the one marked 'N'.  Try it now...
 
Imagine if everyone sent feeds using the language that Denise uses all
the time, and the people claimed that it was their right. Where would
it lead to ? Surely there are more intelligent ways of expressing your
opinions even it it meant rubbing your opposition down. But then, people
like Denise dont know what intelligent is. Pity !
 
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From: akkamon@tlaeng.enet.dec.com ("Akkamon Srihiran, DSS Engineering/Thailand  11-Nov-1992 1605")
Subject: Thai Soccer: Update
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 01:07:37 PST
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Hi all,
     Sorry for this late post.

Semi-Pro League
---------------
     Royal Thai Army is the champions, got Bt 1,000,000 prize and the total
is about Bt 2,4700,000. Each player received about Bt 100,000.
     Next year Semi-Pro will be held again quite sure, although the net loss
of 1st and 2nd Semi-Pro was about Bt 15 Millions. Chalore Kerdtet told the
Siam Sports Daily that the sponsor will be the same, Tharn Setthakij. He
also suggested that the tournament was not so interesting because there were
a lot of tournaments held in Thailand each year and these players, clubs
always took part in most of tournaments. This is the point make the
spectators bore. He said the players to play in Semi-Pro must register for
this league only, cannot play in any other tournaments.

Asian Cup
---------
     Japan defeated Saudi Arabia in the final match 1-0.

Queen's Cup
-----------
     Begin today, Nov 11. Eight teams join this tournament. The opening
match is Rajpracha vs Panasonic Gumba (or Mutsushita, Japan) and the second
is Royal Thai Air Force against Police. Many teams in this tournament have
foreign players. Rajpracha has 5 Danish, John Sorensen, Henric Nilsen, 
John Ars, Lars Ibsen, and Stik Holland. Panasonic Gumba has 3 Brazilian,
Louise Miller, Marcos Antonio, and Edivaldo Fonseka (sorry, if these names
are misspelled) and 1 Chinese player, Xia Su Gwan. Police has 2 Korean
players from Immanuel, Kim Chung Su and Kim Kiang Ju.

     Prize :   Champions           Bt 400,000 and Queen's Cup
               runner-up              300,000
               3rd place              150,000

               Polite team (sp?)       50,000
               MVP 1st round            4,000
                   quarter final        7,500
                   3rd place match     10,000
                   final               15,000
               Queen Stars (6 prizes)  golden brooch worth Bt 3,000

--------------

     OK, I gotta go. I will go to Phu-Kra-Dueng (sp?) today. See you next
week.

Cheers,
Tua
From: bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Souness
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:36:02 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
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In article <16213.9211121849@thor.cf.ac.uk> scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker) writes:
>
>and Siggi Jonsson was never the same player - eventually retiring
>prematurely in his mid-twenties I think (last seen at Arsenal - can any
>Gooner confirm this?) Souness went after him in a Iceland-Scotland
>international as he was by far Iceland's best player, and got him
>sometime in the first half, breaking his leg as you say, which put him
>out for about 2 years or so before his "come-back".

Not a Gooner, but a Yid. Yes it's true that Siggi Jonsson's career was
virtually finished by that injury. He eventually retired from football
sometime last season.

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From: schraag@fwi.uva.nl (Joost Schraag)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: EC1 results, second leg of second round.
Summary: played 5/11/92.
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:34:24 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
X-Should-Be-Newsgroup: rec.sport.football.real

PSV (Holland) - AEK Athenes (Greece) 3-0
    5' Romario
   51' Romario
   84' Romario
  PSV wins on 3-0 aggregate.

Lech Poznan (Poland) - IFK Go"theborg (Sweden) 0-3
   27' Ekstro"m
   47' Mikael  Nilsson
   83' Mild
  IFK wins on 4-0 aggregate.

Olympique Marseille (France) - Dynamo Bukarest (Rumania) 2-0
   32' Boksic
   68' Boksic
  Olympique wins on 2-0 aggregate.

Austria Wien (Austria) - Club Brugge (Belgium) 3-1
   49' Zsak           1-0 (penalty)
   64' van der Heyden 1-1
   73' Fridrikas      2-1
   90' Ivanauskas     3-1
  Aggregate 3-3, Club Brugge wins on away goal.

AC Milan (Italy) - Slovan Bratislava (Czecho-Slowakia) 4-0
   28' Boban
   29' Rijkaard
   49' Simone
   71' Papin
  AC wins on 5-0 aggregate.

Barcelona (Spain) - CSKA Moskou (Russia) 2-3
   12' Nadal        1-0
   31' Beguiristain 2-0
   44' Gozmanov     2-1
   56' Machkarin    2-2
   60' Korsakov     2-3
  CSKA wins on 4-3 aggregate.

Leeds United (England) - Glasgow Rangers (Scotland) 1-2
    3' Hateley 0-1
   59' McCoist 0-2
   85' Cantona 1-2
  Rangers win on 4-2 aggregate.

Porto (Portugal) - Sion (Schwitzerland) 4-0
   50' Costa
   63' Kostadinov
   85' Domingos
   87' Magelhaes
  Porto wins on 6-2 aggregate.

joost.

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From: yaohua@louie.ECE.ORST.EDU (Yaohua Yang)
Subject: Re: World Cup '94 Qualifier Standings
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:34:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.145607.3822@oz.plymouth.edu> m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier) writes:
>Seeing the we are hosting the World Cup in less than two years, it's
>distressing that I can't find anything about the qualifying in the
>papers here.  If anyone has the standings from the groups around the
>world, could you either email them to me, of post them as I'm sure
>others must be interested.
>
>Thanks in advance and God bless,
>
>Michael
>

Subscribe "Soccer America", the most up-to-date results are tabulated. 

yaohua

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From: ddewar@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (derek.a.dewar)
Subject: Re: rangers
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:17:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.132503.1269@dct.ac.uk> mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk writes:
>
>
>   Oh what a surprise...another arrogant hun who thinks if you don't like
>rangers then you must be a tim...grow up pal...
>   And while you are taking the **** out of Dundee, you might remember we
>stuffed you lot up at Dens a couple of months ago...
>   Unfortunately, this didn't affect the major superiority complex you huns
>seem to have.....
>   I am not siding with the tims as you seem to think.
>the only side i'm on is that of Dundee FC
>
>              <<< axel the derry boy >>>


I think you should be the one to grow up, using terms like huns and tim...
as if religious bigotry wasn't bad enough in Scotland..
From: schraag@fwi.uva.nl (Joost Schraag)
Subject: UEFA Cup, draw of third round.
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:45:12 GMT
X-Should-Be-Newsgroup: rec.sport.football.real

Ajax - 1. FC Kaiserslautern
Borussia Dortmund - Real Saragoza
Paris St. Germain - Anderlecht
Standard Luik - Auxerre
Dinamo Moskou - Benfica
AS Roma - Galatasaray
Vitesse - Real Madrid
Sigma Olomouc - Juventus

First leg on 25 november, return 8 december.

joost.

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From: davy@castle.ed.ac.uk (D Neilson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: jimmy hill eats hat... hmmm
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:49:54 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

salut mes amis,

i would just like to bury my mindless tribalism for an instant and congratulate the
huns of ibrox on a wonderful victory against the english champions.

we have heard so much from motson, hill, venables and co about scottish
goalkeepers and how easy it is for super sally to rattle in goals against poor
opposition. well last night (as well as the first round at ibrox) buried
this little english myth for a while.

for those who can appreciate these sort of things....

last night i was sitting in strasbourg fiddling around with a new radio
when suddenly i tuned into radio scotland (first time i've found it
in 9 months, since moving here) and then.. crackling fades as signal gets
clearer " hately turns, its in, trajedy, traaajedy, traaajedy, its all
over, oh dear, oh dear, oh dear......"

pity about the jambos though......

bon chance avec les autres

david
From: climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Delbert ( Peter Climie ))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Rangers Match Report
Keywords: Celtic know all about their troubles
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:49:46 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson) writes:


>Premier League  (we were there last)
>--------------
>                 P  Pts
>Rangers          15 26
>Hertz            16 22
>Aiberdeen        15 20
>Celtic           16 20

CELTIC! WATCH OUT, THE JAGS ARE COMING TO GET YOU! 

>Partick Thistle  16 18
>Dundee Utd.      16 17
>Hibs             16 14
>Dundee           16 12
>St. Johnstone    16 12
>Falkirk          16 12
>Airdrie          16  9
>Motherwell       16  8

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Date: Friday, 13 Nov 1992 11:37:50 CET
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Holland has only 3 good teams, bullshit!
Distribution: rec
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Keywords: Vitesse
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)

greve@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP (Ron Greve) writes:

>Necessary introduction of Vitesse Arnhem on this net.
>
>After that posting of 'bronstri@fwi.uva.nl' about English soccer a
>lot of people react as if Holland has only 3 good teams. As a true
>Vitesse fan I have to correct here someting.
>
>After entering the 1st division three years ago Vitesse Arnhem's
>results in the league are 4th, 5th, and 4th place. Not bad for a

Be careful... some might use this to argue that there are indeed only 3
teams (personally I think there are only two decent teams in the
Netherlands: Feyenoord will fade again...).

>promovendus I would say. After the first year they immediately
>played UEFA cup soccer and made it to the third round. Actually
>at the moment they are again in the third round of the UEFA cup
>after 4 succesive victories (remember KV Mechelen - Vitesse 0-1
>last week). I am already looking forward for Vitesse - Real Madrid.

Yes, Vitesse's European exploits have been amazing (remember that 0-4 at
Tannadice, you Scots :-)

>I already can't count anymore how often they 'stole' points from
>the top 3 teams in Holland the past 3.5 years. At least I remember
>they defeated both Ajax and PSV once in their own stadium.

It might be my memory has subconciously forgotten it on purpose, but when
did Vitesse beat PSV in Eindhoven? (Or in Arnhem, for that matter.)
I only seem to remember one or two draws the past four seasons.

>Conclusion: Holland has only 3 good teams, bullshit!!!

Indeed... how _can_ one include Feyenoord :-)

>Jyane,
>	Bye bye,
>		Sayonara,
>--

Servus,
Karel

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From: RALewis@cen.ex.ac.uk (R.A.Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Lithuanian LYGA Round 13 - End of Half
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:34:23 GMT
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK

Are the crowds REALLY that small?
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From: reds@gribb.hsr.no (Svendsen, Trygve       7-95)
Subject: Re: English Soccer
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:18:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.134636.11412@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
>Subject: English Soccer
>Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:46:36 GMT


>Hello!

>We think English soccer #%$%#@$%s.
>Explanations: English teams don't know anything about tactics.
>But, the English posters on this group always pretend as if their soccer
>is world-class! So much fuss about nothing...

>We mean, Blackburn Rovers on top of the league... A promovendus...
>And then the way they are on top: far too many draws and losses for a real 
>top team. Here in Holland, for example, a team will never be first after
>that many rounds with that many lost points! PSV here is first in the
>league, but they're still chased by Ajax, Feyenoord and FC Twente, even 
>while they've only lost 2 points in 10 matches now!
No wonder, Dutch football sucks. I have recently been able to watch
the highlights of your socalled top teams. And my conclusion is:
There are three quality sides in Holland (PSV, Ajax and Feyenoord).
The rest is a bunch of no-hopers. The quality of your averall game 
can be summed up in one word: RUBBISH. The three top teams can beat the
rest even on their worst days. 
The quality of the Premier League though, is very high. Although there are
of course some teams finishing regularly in top positions, you can't 
ignore one single team.   

>You see it again in the European Cup-tournaments: Only Glasgow Rangers
>(allright, it's Scottish) plays further, and we think it's only because
>they've played Leeds Utd. If they'd played against a continental team
>(well, not Austrian, Swiss, Norwegian, or something like that) they'd
>been kicked out, we're sure!
It's a pity that English teams in Europe this year has not been the top 
teams. I would love to see what the likes of Blackburn, Villa, QPR and 
perhaps even Arsenal could have managed. 
>Conclusion: There are no real top-teams in England! It's a 'unity-
>sausage', as we use to say in Dutch. You sure feel what that means!
Pity that the Dutch teams didn't get a English draw this year. Leeds would
certainly have crushed PSV, and I can't wait for Rangers to kick
their asses. 
>As an end of this posting two things:

>- We'd like our theory proven (e.g. PSV gets into the same poule as
>  Rangers),
>- We'd like to give you all a tip: DREAM ON!!!


>PS: We do like your ambiance!

>Greetings,

>Sidney vd Poll     (Ajax-fan, vdpoll@fwi.uva.nl)
>Mischa Bronstring  (PSV-fan, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl)

>-- 
>-  Q: Why do I like white beans in /\  Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) -
>-     tomatosauce?                 \/    Schoterbosstraat 15                   -
>-  A: Because PSV Eindhoven plays  /\      2023 TR  Haarlem                    -
>-     in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                           -

One more thing: Can't wait for Holland to be manipulated by England 
		and Norway!!! Enjoy......


TRYGVE SVENDSEN
NORWAY
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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Re: Soccer in USA 94
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:54:39 GMT

Tommy Che Vorst (tvorst@ccu.umanitoba.ca) wrote:
: For some time now, the WCup organisers in the US have been whining about
: field and goal sizes, offside rules, turf vs grass.  This patently american,
: "well, we're the USA so we'll do it our way" attitude has become so
: intolerable, that FIFA is seriously considering pulling the tournament out
: and moving it elsewhere - where the sport of football comes first,
: hopefully.  Rumour has it (and how's this for p.r.?) that the new ,
: unified Germany will be best able to prepare on short notice.  I'm only
: disappointed because I would go, were the games in the US.  Way to go, yanks.
: 

What an incredible clown!!!!!

Andy B


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From: ccx020@cch.coventry.ac.uk (James Nash)
Subject: Re: Norwich, bloody Norwich
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:00:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.234557.13647@newshub.sdsu.edu> dunster@sdsu.edu (mark dunster) writes:
>(For example, I
>seem to remember them conning Man. City into buying that crap player
>Reeves for over a million pounds.)

Oh, I woudn't worry about that. Man. City are experts at paying vast
sums of money for rubbish. Steve Daley. Also at paying vastly over
the odds for Wimbledon players. Keith Curle & Terry Phelan. Also at
selling their most promising youngster for peanuts because he wanted
more money to recognise his status as a regular full-international
team member.

I asked this a long time ago but here goes again...

WHY THE HELL DID MAN CITY SELL MICHAEL HUGHES????????

Jim.

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From: marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni)
Subject: Re: Ranieri fired, Bianchi returns
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:26:41 GMT

In article <If0Gtne00WB904Lm8o@andrew.cmu.edu> Saverio Cittadini <sc4n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
> [stuff deleted].
>
>But there are at least 3 negative points: 1) Bianchi is known to have always
>problems with the players; some of the Napoli players have quarreled a lot
>with him in the past, and I'm sure they won't like his return; indeed, 
>according to many, Ferlaino's decision can be considered as "punitive"
>towards the players;

Do you think that this is really a good idea, if this is really the
case? After all, I don't think that one would want to antagonize the
people who have to win you games week in and week out. Retaliation by
the players would be easy: just lose. If someone would want to be
punitive with a player or a group of players in general they could
easily have them benched or not even dressed for games. I hope for
the team's sake and for relations between players, coach, and president,
that Ferlaino's decision and choice of Bianchi as replacement coach
was not motivated by punishment.

> 2) This team was built according to Ranieri's ideas,
>not Bianchi's; are we sure he can do better ?

Well, looking at the players that Napoli has and their position
in the table, IMHO the answer is "yes"...

> 3) As I already said when
>Maradona left, a club shouldn't look behind...

Oh no! There's the "M" word again! ;-) ;-)

>Well, let's hope for the best.

You bet!

>Another coach has lost his job, i.e. Genoa's coach Giorgi. He will be
>replaced by Gigi Maifredi.

...who had his first training session with the team earlier today.

Marco..
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From: martin@inferenzsysteme.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Martin Protzen)
Subject: Re: dundee merger, uefa and rangers in europe
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:23:16 GMT
Organization: TH Darmstadt

In article <1992Nov12.172921.1343@dct.ac.uk> mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk writes:

   win games, play well etc...I don't really care what happens in europe now...
   although if rangers somwhow managed to get milan in a final, UEFA might wake up
   and give scottish sides another UEFA cup place in 93/94 instead of giving it
   to a team no-one can pronounce from Estonia or somewhere....if they do it, i'll
   have to avoid the Daily Record for several weeks....

		  <<< axel the derry boy >>>

UEFA cup spots are awarded based on the performance in the European cups during the
past five years. As Scotland did not do very well it will even loose one of the
current three spots. Actually they lost that spot some years ago but managed to get
one of the extra spots left open by the expulsion of England some years ago, the
cease of the GDR and this years expulsion of Yugoslavia and Albania.

See the regular posting on "European coefficients" for details.

BTW, your remark about Estonia is simply stupid, please think before you post.

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From: rgty_mrw@waikato.ac.nz (Mark Willcock)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: WC : Denmark Squad news
Date: 11 Nov 92 08:33:03 +1300
Organization: Admin Systems - Registry

COPENHAGEN, Nov 10, Reuter - European champions Denmark, struggling to score
goals in their World Cup campaign, welcome back former Luton striker Lars
Elstrup for their qualifying match against Northern Ireland next week.
Elstrup, Denmark's second highest scorer behind Flemming Povlsen and now with
Odense BK, missed last month's 0-0 draw with the Republic of Ireland in
Copenhagen through injury.
Denmark, whose three opening group three matches have all been 0-0 draws, will
be without suspended Liverpool central defender Torben Piechnik for the match
in Belfast on November 18.
Squad: Peter Schmeichel, Kim Brodersen; Lars Olsen, Marc Rieper, John Sivebaek,
Brian Steen Nielsen, Jan Heintze; Henrik Larsen, John Jensen, Kim Vilfort,
Bjarne Goldbaek; Brian Laudrup, Flemming Povlsen, Lars Elstrup, Bent
Christensen.  
(c) Reuters Limited
REUTER GENERAL NEWS
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From: JI.RCB@isumvs.iastate.edu (Robert Bergmann)
Subject: Re: Officiating Changes?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:12:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.124153.26436@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>,
marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni) writes:

>Any other thoughts or additional news on how this 3-referee system
>was/would be implemented are very welcome.

I share your concerns about communication between the referees in a
three man system.  Soccer, unlike other sports which use multiple
officials, is meant to be non-stop play.  But, the plain fact is that
the single center referee is not ideal either.  Dispite new laws and
instructions to referees the level of violence in the game has
increased.  Maybe better trained linesmen who are empowered to
actually contribute to game management would help.  Currently
linesmen are reluctant to call anything that might show up the
center official.

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