From: werner@soe.berkeley.edu (John Werner)
Subject: CFV: comp.sys.mac.oop.{macapp3,misc}
Followup-To: poster
Organization: UC Berkeley School of Education
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:42:21 GMT

   This is a Call For Votes for the creation of two newsgroups for
discussing object-oriented programming on the Macintosh.  For those keeping
score at home, the RFD went out on Thursday, September 17th, with the name
"RFD: comp.sys.mac.macapp3".  During the discussion period a straw poll was
taken to pick a new name, and a .misc group was added to the proposal.

GROUP NAMES:
 comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3  unmoderated; gatewayed to existing mailing list
 comp.sys.mac.oop.misc     unmoderated

VOTING PROCEDURE:
On each of the two newsgroups, you may vote Yes, No, or Abstain.  To vote,
copy the following ballot into a mail message, and if you wish to vote Yes
or No on a group, replace the 'A' with a 'Y' or 'N'.  Then mail the ballot
to "werner@soe.berkeley.edu".

BALLOT:
comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3: A
comp.sys.mac.oop.misc:    A

Following are the group charters and more detailed voting rules:

CHARTERS:
   comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 will be a forum for discussion of version 3 of
the MacApp object oriented application framework used to write many
Macintosh applications. It is anticipated that most posts will be technical
in nature, but "advocacy" for new features, MacApp-related meeting
announcements, and other MacApp discussion will also be welcome.  

   comp.sys.mac.oop.misc is intended for discussion of other
object-oriented programming issues on the Macintosh.  Possibilities include
discussion of the Think Class Library and the forthcoming Bedrock library,
as well as object-related C++ and Object Pascal issues.

GATEWAY:
   There is presently a MacApp 3 mailing list, called MacApp3Tech$,
maintained by Apple.  There will be a bidirectional gateway between the
mailing list and the new comp.sys.mac.oop.macapp3 newsgroup.  The mailing
list currently has about 500 subscribers, and traffic averages about 75-100
messages per week. 

VOTING RULES:
* One vote per person.  If you vote more than once, only the _last_ vote
will be counted.  

* Votes that are ambiguous will not be counted.  Rejected votes will be
returned to the sender with an explanation of why they were rejected.

* Votes posted to any newsgroup will not be counted.  Votes MUST be mailed
to the voting address, "werner@soe.berkeley.edu".

* According to Usenet guidelines, for a group to be created there must be
at least a 2:1 ratio of Yes to No votes, and at least 100 more Yes votes
than No votes.

VOTING PERIOD:
* Votes will be collected starting when this CFV is posted, and ending at
12:01am PST (8:01am GMT) Monday, November 9, 1992.

* Halfway through the voting period (about October 28) a second Call For
Votes will be posted, along with an acknowledgement listing the names of
everyone who has voted so far.

RESULTS:
* After the voting period had ended the results will be posted, along with
a list of everyone who voted and what their votes were.
-- 
John Werner                         werner@soe.berkeley.edu
UC Berkeley School of Education     510-642-9651
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