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From: ccastmm@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Marler)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: December fishing in Ft. Myers
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:00:45 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I am going to be in Fort Myers after Christmas and was wondering what if
any fishing is worth trying.  In particular bottom fishing or inshore fishing.
Or how about on the eastern side of the islands (look rather shallow on the
charts) with light tackle.

Thanks for just any general information.

Cheers, Mike
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Disclaimer: These views are not and should not be viewed as those of OIT.
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From: spl3592@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Scott LaRoche)
Subject: :Re Strippers in Tenn.
Organization: Boeing
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:44:27 GMT


In article <168BD9ED6.D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Steve Ri
mar) writes:
> What time of year and which lakes are the best for Strippers in Tenn.
 
There alot easier to find when it's cold out..... headlights on high beam
and all. But there hard to land, are you guys allowed to use trebble 
hooks on the East Coast. <ouch>!
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From: gbanks@oxygen.aps1.anl.gov (Gregory Banks)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: User fee no more
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:14:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: oxygen.72434968313832
Distribution: usa
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago Illinois

I read in B.A.S.S. Times this months issue, the user fee will not be
required on boats over 16' and boats under 20'. The sticker will no
longer be required for boats that use the same waters navigated by
the coast guard. Boats over 20' will be required to pay for 2 more
years. It was a rip-off from the beginning and somebody finally realized
it!
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From: Robert Drongowski <Robert.Drongowski@cc.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Mayfly Larvae
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 12:49:20 EST
Organization: Pediatric Surgery, U of Michigan
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In article <1glsqeINNhfu@agate.berkeley.edu> Fred Templin,
templin@grayling.CS.Berkeley.EDU writes:
>Just out of curiosity, how do you *get* enough hexagenia nymphs
>to consider using them as bait? Can you actually seine up a bunch
>of them from the bottom of streams? I know your rivers out there
>in Michigan harbor excellent hex hatches, but I've personally
>never had any luck catching these or other wiggle nymphs myself
>and would like to know how it's done...

Although it is done by a few hardy souls by dipnetting into the
mud of a stream with many tiny holes indicating the larvae,
the preferred method is buying them at the local bait store.
At least in Michigan, there are bait dealers that carry this
larvae through the cold months.
Bob D
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From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: Salmon flies
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:34:43 GMT

For us non-tying types, how do we get a sample with 3 transparent
whatevers to see what you are talking about, not to mention
trying out. - Roger 
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From: brohard@convex.com (James Brohard)
Subject: Re: Mayfly Larvae
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:33:35 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

    My son did an interesting experiment. We were out on the lake one
night, and none of us had been getting any bites. We were however
getting very bothered by a lot of the actual Mayflies. I use Coleman
lanterns when night fishing, and they were attracting thousands of Mayflies.
They were landing all over the boat, and us. My son had at the time been 
fishing with worms, and I was using shrimp.
   My son got this idea, that maybe adding a mayfly to the hook along with his
worm, would make a difference, so he scouted out the biggest mayfly he could
find, and speared him onto the end of the hook. He cast the bait into the water,
using a bobber, with the bait set about 2-2 1/2 feet deep. We went this shallow
because we were casting from the boat up to within about 2-3 feet of the
rip-rap at the dam.
   Right away he started getting bites, and fish. After about 15 minutes of him
getting bites and myself getting nothing, I decided to try a Mayfly on the
end of my hook, with the shrimp still on the hook. Within a minute or so
I started getting bites. As long as we kept putting on mayflies, we kept
getting bites, while my daughter who was also using shrimp, but no mayfly still
wasn't getting any bites.
   What I think is amazing is we had a nice big night crawler on one hook, and
a nice 1 1/2 inch shrimp on the other hook, and had no luck until we placed
the little 1/4 to 1/2 inch (the biggest ones) Mayfly on the hook, and it made
all the difference in that nights fishing. My guess is that that little insect
must be producing some chemical smell, that is acting like a fish attractor,
because surely the fish can't see this little bug on a hook with a nice big
night crawler or shrimp. All I can say for sure is that it differently made
a difference.

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From: D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Steve Rimar)
Subject: Re: December fishing in Ft. Myers
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:17:08 GMT

In article <78335@hydra.gatech.EDU>
ccastmm@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Marler) writes:
 
>
>I am going to be in Fort Myers after Christmas and was wondering what if
>any fishing is worth trying.  In particular bottom fishing or inshore fishing.
>Or how about on the eastern side of the islands (look rather shallow on the
>charts) with light tackle.
>
>Thanks for just any general information.
>
>Cheers, Mike
>--
My son lives in Fort Meyers and fishes any chance he can.  He said that the
fishing has been off the last week or so because of a cold front that came
through.  He was catching a lot of fish from shore at several different areas.
He went on a boat a few weeks ago and they caught Red Fish in the 20-30 lb
range.
I will call him and ask for specific locations or ask him if I could give you
his number and you could ask him.
 
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From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Subject: Re: Powerbait
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:03:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.160628.12019@linus.mitre.org> wesm@mbunix.mitre.org (Miller) writes:
>	I've noticed that a lot of people use Powerbait, either nuggets or the
>other stuff, and doing very well pulling trout out of some of the local lakes.
>Being an artifical lure person myself, I was wondering..how exactly do you use
>the stuff. The directions on the jars is not very accurate. I probably won't
>use the stuff myself, but my 10 year old could sure enjoy catching something
>other than panfish. Any suggestions from those who have used the stuff? Thanks.
>
>						Wes Miller
It's probably the best single bait around for hatchery-raised trout,
especially rainbows and brookies. Using it couldn't be easier. Buy
either the nuggets or the paste in a couple of colors (I've had the
best luck with orange and chartreuse, but pink is good too). Use a
short shank, #8 or smaller hook. Take out a nugget or a gob of paste
and mold it around the hook like putty. I prefer to completely cover
the hook, so all you see is a ball of powerbait.

Works well in combo with a mealworm or salmon egg too.

BTW, although not essential, a slip sinker rig (egg sinker above a
barrel swivel to which a two-three foot leader is attached) usually
results in more hits.

One thing I do know: trout attack powerbait aggressively in the
spring, even when things like marshmallows seems to lose their appeal.


-- 
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DOWNING ASSOCIATES, INC.
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From: mjo@beat.b24b.ingr.com (Michael J. Oatley)
Subject: Re: Strippers in Tenn.
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:04:48 GMT

In article <168BD9ED6.D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>, D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Steve Rimar) writes:
|> What time of year and which lakes are the best for Strippers in Tenn.

Strippers? They usually like it warm, I've had good luck in Nashville, down
by the Cumberland River, on the strip never actually seen any in the water
though. :)

But seriously...

I talked to a guide in the Tims Ford area about three weeks ago - he said
they were taking stripers in the Tims Ford and also in Woods Reservoir 
this time of year. (He mentioned crappie were hitting well, to.)

I've never really fished for striper though (caught a few by accident) so
I can't say if winter is best or just good or at least better than largemouth.
BTW, Tims Ford & Woods Revervoir are in South-Central Tennessee, near the
Tullahoma, Winchester, Lynchburg area.




	Michael J. Oatley		
	mjo@beat.b24b.ingr.com       passion for Truth hunts in no pack
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From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Powerbait
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:20:58 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Distribution: usa
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

In article <15975@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>
>This brings up the possibility of an interest pattern for fly fisherman.
                           .
                    [ stuff deleted ]
			   .
>about pinching on a small ball of red powerbait in front of you're leech,
>wooley worm, or even baitfish (muddler minnow?) imitations?  Seems like
>it would work.
>

John!

What an idea! As soon as the water thins out (spring.....) I'm giving it a
try but check this out.........

With the 'Power Eggs' all you'd need to do is push the eye of the hook
through the egg before tying it onto your tippet! It should stay there
untill you change flys (where the molded on 'gobb' would tend to melt/fall
off after a few casts - especially false casting or roll casting!


--
Joe Whittemore - From where the Westfield
                      Meets the Westfield
                         By the Westfield
                            In Huntington (MA)

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From: spl3592@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Scott LaRoche)
Subject: Re: Powerbait
Organization: Boeing
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:33:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.160628.12019@linus.mitre.org> wesm@mbunix.mitre.org (Mille
r) writes:
>
>       I've noticed that a lot of people use Powerbait, either nuggets or the
>other stuff, and doing very well pulling trout out of some of the local lakes.
>Being an artifical lure person myself, I was wondering..how exactly do you use
>the stuff. The directions on the jars is not very accurate. I probably won't
>use the stuff myself, but my 10 year old could sure enjoy catching something
>other than panfish. Any suggestions from those who have used the stuff? Thanks.
>
>                                               Wes Miller
>
I've had some really good success with powerbait the past couple years.  It's
really simple to use... just take a small scoop, or nugget, roll it into a ball,
and squeeze it onto the hook.  I prefer the nuggets because they seem to float
a little better.  You can also add an egg, power egg, or worm, because the powerbait
acts kind of like a marshmellow.... but not quite as much floatation. 

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Powerbait
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:32:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <6921@sniff.wfo.dec.com> jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore) writes:
 
|I've used the 'eggs' (in red) as an attractor over the barb of a streamer
|fly with some success. 

This brings up the possibility of an interest pattern for fly fisherman.
Some of you may be familiar with a pattern called a "egg sucking leech".
Basically it's a leech pattern with a small red ball tied in the very
front so it looks like a leech stealing an egg.  Pisses the hell out of
salmon and steelhead.  I've also seen wooley worm patters what use a small
plastic bead just behind the eye of the hook to simulate the egg.  How
about pinching on a small ball of red powerbait in front of you're leech,
wooley worm, or even baitfish (muddler minnow?) imitations?  Seems like
it would work.

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From: exualan@exu.ericsson.se (Alan Malkiel)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: PH monitoring
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:41:14 GMT
Reply-To: exualan@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

For ph test kits and/or meters try your local aquarium shop.

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From: glterr@musctn.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: ICEFISHING FOR PERCH
Date: 20 Dec 92 11:15:18 GMT
Organization: Monsanto Company

EVERY YEAR I LIKE TO GO NORTH ON A ICEFISHING TRIP. I'VE BEEN GOING
TO MIL LACS IN MINN. BUT WOULD LIKE TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
I AM AFTER PERCH MAINLY BUT I DON'T THROW WALLEYES BACK.
1 NEED INFO ON ICEHOUSE RENTAL ETC. ETC. ALSO I WOULD BE INTERESTED
IN BLUEGILL ICEFISHING.
THANKS GREG.

GLTERR@MUSCTN.MONSANTO.COM
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From: ketchum@cs.montana.edu (Steve White)
Subject: Re: Mayfly Larvae
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:59:07 GMT

In article <h=T=zz#@engin.umich.edu> Robert Drongowski <Robert.Drongowski@cc.umich.edu> writes:
>     Through word-of-mouth I have discovered a manner in which to
>preserve wigglers (hexagenia; mayfly larvae) by boiling in water
>solution with Boric Acid.  They are supposed to be preserved for
>up to 4 years.  This is great since they are in short supply during
>the warm months (in Michigan, at least) and are very good bait
>for perch, bluegill and steelhead.
>BOB DRONGOWSKI--"ICE FISHING IS REALLY A MISNOMER, MOST OF THE TIME"  The
>Polish Fisherman

A thought came to mind. I wander what kind of affects, if any, would occur to
a fish that stole your bait. Might he "pickle" his stomache?
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Subject: Holiday Greetings
From: pro016@marshall.wvnet.edu
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:22:44 -0500
Organization: Marshall University

     Just wanted to wish everyone a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year

                  tight lines        Paul in WV



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From: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com (John Phillips)
Subject: Re: How do you catch Tarpon while surfcasting?.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:12:26 GMT
Reply-To: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

I never been to Grand Cayman Island, but this is what works on the 
Space Coast.


What lure type(s):
> Mirrolures
> swimming plugs (Bomber)
> bucktail jigs
> spoons may work

What size(s): BIG, LARGE or GIGANTIC 

What color(s): Silver/Red, Chart/Red

Use of leaders:
> Up to 20lb Tarpon -- 2ft 30 - 50lb (mono)
> 20 - 50lb Tarpon  -- 4ft 50lb
> over 50lb Tarpon  -- 6ft 50lb
> Monster Tarpon    -- 8ft 80lb

Weight of line:   20 - 30 lb

Type of island drink: Bahama Blue

J.P.

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From: gbanks@oxygen.aps1.anl.gov (Gregory Banks)
Subject: Abu-Garcia baitcasting reels
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago Illinois
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:49:49 GMT

Is there anybody out there who knows if there are some left-handed
Abu-Garcia baitcasting reels to be had? The reels I am looking for
are 91 models. Either the 521 XLT's or the Synchro's 1 or 2 . If you
know of any shops that may have these reels, I would be very interested
in buying them. I would appreciate any help in locating them.

		    MERRY CHRISTMAS       ^
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From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Powerbait
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:04:59 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Distribution: usa
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

In article <1992Dec17.160628.12019@linus.mitre.org> wesm@mbunix.mitre.org (Miller) writes:
>
>	I've noticed that a lot of people use Powerbait, either nuggets or the
>other stuff, and doing very well pulling trout out of some of the local lakes.
>Being an artifical lure person myself, I was wondering..how exactly do you use
>the stuff. The directions on the jars is not very accurate. I probably won't
>use the stuff myself, but my 10 year old could sure enjoy catching something
>other than panfish. Any suggestions from those who have used the stuff? Thanks.
>
>						Wes Miller

Wes,

I prefer the "Power Eggs" by far. They are tough enough to stay on the hook
even after many casts. Three on a size ten is my rig WHEN I use them. The
"Fish PlayDough(tm)" style Trout formula is also high on my list; it puts
out a 'stink slick' that you can SEE! It doesn't stay on the hook too well.
The best way to use the "PowerDough"(my name) type - that I've found - is
to mold some onto the hook, dip the hook&bait into the water, and then
smoth/mold the bait onto the hook. Exposure to air for a few minuts
thereafter seems to 'set' the bait better and it lasts for a few casts.

I've used the 'eggs' (in red) as an attractor over the barb of a streamer
fly with some success. I've also packed the body cavety of Mepps Comet(sp)
with the "PowerDough". I once had a trout hit a PowerDoughBall without a
hookup THREE times in a row... The only reason he quit was that on the
third strike I lifted him clear out of the water before he let go of the
bait..............

    It works for me ............ add it to a nightcrawler .......

--
Joe Whittemore - From where the Westfield
                      Meets the Westfield
                         By the Westfield
                            In Huntington (MA)

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From: Robert Drongowski <Robert.Drongowski@cc.umich.edu>
Subject: Mayfly Larvae
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 13:46:11 EST
Organization: Pediatric Surgery, U of Michigan
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2

     Through word-of-mouth I have discovered a manner in which to
preserve wigglers (hexagenia; mayfly larvae) by boiling in water
solution with Boric Acid.  They are supposed to be preserved for
up to 4 years.  This is great since they are in short supply during
the warm months (in Michigan, at least) and are very good bait
for perch, bluegill and steelhead.
The problem is I don't have the specific concentration of
Boric Acid, although I believe it's a 2% solution.  Does
anyone know of the specifics for this method of
bait preservation???
I do know that they are preserved well for at least 2 years,
and that perch kill them.
BOB DRONGOWSKI--"ICE FISHING IS REALLY A MISNOMER, MOST OF THE TIME"  The
Polish Fisherman