HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: Problems with signal handling.
Keywords: signal
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 02:54:36 GMT

In <1992Aug30.210156.11419@cc.umontreal.ca> gaumondp@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Gaumond Pierre) writes:

| I am on a 4D380 SGI machine under IRIX 4.0.1.
| 
| I am using a function to catch "bus error" and "segmentation fault". I call 
| signal(2) once with SIGBUS and once with SIGSEGV. The same function is used to 
| catch both signals.
| 
| I receive the good signal when the function is entered but, with SIGSEGV, the 
| code is not one of those expected (if I refer to the manual). The numeric value 
| is "4", corresponding to EINTR (interrupted system call).
| 

To the best of my knowledge, there is no argument to signal handlers
that corresponds to any values of errno, except in a few carefully
specified cases where the signal is initiated by the kernel (and only
for BSD and POSIX signals).  Are you sure that these are in fact the
cases that you are dealing with?

The reference to EACCESS instead of EACCES is a bug; there are 
a surprising number of man pages with this problem.  I've filed
internal bugs to get them fixed in the next release.

--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: masaca@gdr.bath.ac.uk (A C Aitchison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: User Interface Builders: FAQ?
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:37:38 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

I'm trying to write a GUI for my application.  Since GL doesn't have
many widgets, and I'd rather spend my time on the application than
learning and debugging Motif, can anyone recommend a user interface builder ?
A GL based one would do, but since the future is OpenGL I'd prefer one that
can generate mixed-mode now.

Thanks,
	Andrew Aitchison, aca@maths.bath.ac.uk
Organization: Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Date: Wed,  2 Sep 1992 21:16:08 -0400 
From: "Joseph C. Lappa" <jl8p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: 3130


Hello,

    I have a chance to purchase a 3130.  I'm wondering if GL or X11 can
run on this beast?!?


Thanks
Joseph Lappa


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: amg8408@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Avijit  Moitra)
Subject: Window backgound color changes when moving cursor from 1 window to another
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:25:00 GMT

I have two PIs, one 4D25G and the other 4D35G, both running 4.0.1 currently. I am
having some peculiar problems, which I am not sure whether normal or problem.  Can 
someone suggest how to get rid of this.

1)  I am not able to close a 'Desk Clock' after I open it from the Tools menu under
Clocks sub-menu.  This happens with any of the 4 clocks that you can choose under
that sub-menu.

2)  When I move the 'Cursor' from my current window to the 'Desk Clock' or 'Calender'
the background color of all my open windows (winterm) changes from dark blue to 
light grey.  Is this normal ?  The same thing happens when I run an application
program (graphics package) and move the cursor from the window running the application
program to any other window.

	Can someone suggest how to get rid of this problem.  Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: chown : HELP!
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 15:41:51 GMT

In article <id.2FQS.7B6@ferranti.com>, peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.081722.27559@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
> > What the hell does that mean?  What am I doing wrong?  I am executing the
> > "chown" command as the "root" user.  Shouldn't I _have_ permission?
> 
> Yes, you should. But because you're using NFS, you don't. NFS is not a full
> UNIX file system.

This is political nonsense.

Yes, NFS is not EFS, and the differences between NFS symantics and
common UNIX file system symantics can be, to understate the case,
inconvenient.

No, that is not what is happening here.  A network file system for
anything but a trivial network must worry more about security than the
local disk file system.  Generally, a machine can trust itself to have
authenticated "root", but generally a machine should not trust other
machines to have authenticated "root."

If you want root on the server to be the same as root on one or more
clients, so that chown as root would work, then you can set
/etc/exports so that is what happens.
Read `man exporfs` and `man exports`.

> rlogin to the server and do it from there.

That is often the best (i.e. safest and easiest) way to be root on the
server.


Vernon Schryver, vjs@sgi.com
From: andyr@rdr.chem.niu.edu (Andy Rollins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: 1/4" Tape Tools for the Uninitiated
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:55:41 GMT


Sorry if this is a FAQ.  Pete Paraska indicated recently that he was looking 
for a user-friendly tool for DAT tape drivesfor users who have bad experiences
with mt and tar.  Has someone out there written a tool to make backups on 1/4"
tape drives more automated?  This would be so that incremental backups are
easily accomplished, that is, one wouldn't write over one's old data each time,
rather fast forwarding past that data to the end to write the new data.  In
addition, it would hopefully restore data in a similar fashion.  I'm sorry to
bother everyone with this, but I don't have the time to work it all out.  If
someone has already set this up, could I talk you out of a copy?  Or is this 
available from SGI?  Thanks in advance!!!

Andy


andyr@rdr.chem.niu.edu or  |  Life is too important to be 
T40ANR1@NIU.BITNET or      |  taken seriously.
t40anr1@mp.cs.niu.edu      |  -Oscar Wilde
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: tres@roke.rap.ucar.edu (Tres Hofmeister)
Subject: iris-ansi termcap/terminfo Entries for Sun?
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research / RAP
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:20:00 GMT

	How do I go about acquiring termcap entries and terminfo
files for the terminal types iris-ansi and iris-ansi-net for use on a
Sun?  These are the terminal types for SGI's "winterm," and as Sun
doesn't understand them, remote logins from the SGI's are painful.

	Can anyone offer help?  My apologies if this is a FAQ.

Tres Hofmeister
tres@ncar.ucar.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sgi:13275 comp.graphics.explorer:195
From: rriv@oural.inria.fr (Robert Riviere)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.graphics.explorer
Subject: Re: Explorer users on IRIS wanted!
Date: 4 Sep 92 09:02:25 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sgi
Organization: Cermics/Inria-Sophia Antipolis

In article <1992Aug16.132931.12645@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> rmaszkow@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rafal Maszkowski) writes:
>
>Does anybody has some experiences with this? Can anybody send me
>hints or examples of Shape programs?
> 

I do have tried to use the Shape language,too. I have given up. It is a bunch 
of bugs !
The worst I have found is the following :
Shape is "space-dependent" ! i.e. a+b may generate an error and a+ b may not !

Also, do not insert an empty line...

And the interpretor seems to loop into incorrect states, I mean it's possible,
even when you have corrected an error, to  still have the "Unbound..." 
message. You'll have to duplicate the module and kill the older one to start
on a correct basis.

There is a LatFunction2 module on the ftp server. I think it would be a good
thing if a SGI guy told us what is new about it .

Thanks in advance !

-- 
Robert Riviere
(rriv@sophia.inria.fr)				Tel: (33) 93.65.79.06
Inria/CERMICS					Fax: (33) 93.65.77.40
BP 93                              06902	Sophia Antipolis Cedex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: syscrc@gsusgi1.gsu.edu (Randy Carpenter)
Subject: IRIX 4.0 Installation question
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:51:27 GMT

After loading IRIX 4.0.1 on our 4d/20, Workspace and Jot complain:

     Unable to load font Helvetica 11

I guess some subsystem wasn't loaded during the installation (I thought I
chose *all* subsystems on the IRIX 4.0.1 CD).

Can anyone tell me which one is missing?

-- 
===========================================================================
Randy Carpenter            rcarpent@gsu.edu    $ mkdir matter; cat > matter
Georgia State University   (404) 651-2648      ksh: matter: cannot create  
Wells Computer Center                          $
From: bergman@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Larry Bergman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: what does this mean?
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:59:48 GMT

I'm getting an error message from the loader:

  *** Error code 1

(on a GTX running 4.0.1)

I've gotten this message in the past when one of the
libraries I was including was missing.  I've triple-checked
and all the libraries are there and have stuff in them.
Can anyone tell me what else this message might mean?
(I LOVE Unix error messages!)

Thanks,  Larry

-- 
Larry Bergman
bergman@cs.unc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: williams@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Gus Williams)
Subject: Using a regular file as swap space?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:02:30 GMT

I recently ran into a small problem.  We have an old groundwater
code (written in the dark ages before computers) that needs to be
run occasionally.  This code needs huge amounts of swap space. On
the order of 300 megsf (in addition the the 48 megs of ram on my
machine).  On a SUN I use I can use the mkfile command to create a
file and the swapon command to use that file for swap space (slow
but faster that doing the calculations by hand).  I can't seem to
find out how to do this on a SGI.  Any help would be apprieciated.

Also on the same subjet.  Is it possilble to swap to a swap partition
mounted on a remote machine.  Again on the SUN I can do
	swapon remote:/dev/sd2b  (or something like that)
Can I do this on SGI?

Thanks for any help.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: kunz@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: SCSI cable length
Reply-To: kunz@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:19:25 GMT

The answer which I received from SGI when I asked this question was
19.6 feet total length, with 11 feet used up internally. Use short cables.
I think we have in some cases exceeded the 8 foot external cable length
but have had no problems.
Sara Kunz, Brandeis Univ, Waltham, MA
From: paquin@kahua.esd.sgi.com (Tom Paquin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: IRIX and (not) ISO 8859-1
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:24:27 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc.

In article <4BK612G@math.fu-berlin.de>, heiko@Harpo.Chemie.FU-Berlin.DE (Heiko Schlichting) writes:
|> Found in IRIX Release Notes 4.0.5:
|> 
|> [...]
|>        12.  Fonts
|> [...]
|>           o The character set in several Screen fonts was extended
|>             from the ASCII character set to the ISO 8859-1
|>             character set.
|> [...]
|> 
|> Really? I can't find them - all useable fonts doesn't have the ISO 8859-1
|> character set, even if the name contains "-iso8859-1":
|> e.g: -schumacher-clean-bold-r-normal--15-150-75-75-c-90-iso8859-1

This simply isn't true.  The schumacher fonts do lie about their encoding;
I don't know why -they're not even ascii- and we'll take that as a bug.

But of the 663 fonts in 4.0.5, 563 are ISO 8859-1, even after removing the
schumacher fonts.

|> Other important fonts does not have the ISO 8859-1 character set too:
|> e.g: -sgi-screen-bold-r-normal--14-140-72-72-m-80--ascii

Pointing out that there are 20 -sgi-screen*ascii fonts in 4.0.5
hardly substantiates a claim that there are no usable ISO fonts.
There are well in excess of 500 of them.  334 come from Adobe, 
140 from Bigelow & Holmes, and 50 from Bitstream, amonmg others.

You can look through them with xfontsel(1) or try this:
	xlsfonts '*iso8859*' | grep -v schumacher

-- 

		-Tom
*****
Opinions are mine, etc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: choi@wk59.nas.nasa.gov (Diana Choi)
Subject: Font Manager
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:45:23 GMT

Is there a way to find out which pointsizes of a specific font are on hand?

diana
From: cgibas@rel11.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Cynthia J. Gibas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Setting date/time in 4.0.1
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:40:22 GMT
Organization: ncsa

Keywords: 

I've been having an annoying problem getting the date and time set correctly on my
IRIS.  When I use date to set it, I end up with the time set correctly in the 
shell windows, but the time the x-applications see (like xclock, mailbox, etc.)
is ca. 5 hours off.  When I use datetime under sysadm to set the time the x
applications and the mailer have the correct time, but the time called by date in
the shell windows is ca. 5 hours off in the opposite direction.

I have had some success by setting the time using both date and sysadm--now the
correct time appears everywhere, EXCEPT IN THE MAILER!  So all messages are sent
at an apparent time 5 hours behind the actual time they are sent.  Unfortunately,
to get to this situation, I had to set the time both ways 5 hours earlier than the
actual time, power off the machine, and restart.

I'm in the CST/CDT time zone.  If anyone can figure out this story problem and
help me fix it I will be very grateful.

Cindy
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sgi:13015 comp.sys.sun.apps:1764 comp.sys.hp:9818 comp.sys.sequent:523 comp.unix.ultrix:6546
From: morten@oase.kemi.aau.dk (Morten Kjeldgaard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: More fun with prototyping...
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:19:30 GMT
Organization: Aarhus University, Denmark

Try out this little program, compile it, and run it:

main ()
{
  float t = 1.0;

  printf ("t = %f ....",t);
  (void)sub(t);
}

void sub (float t) {
  printf ("%f\n",t);
}


On our Indigo, this program compiles perfectly, no warnings or anything. I
get the result: t = 1.000000 ....0.000000

Now try adding the prototype

void sub (float);

as the first line of the file. This solves the problem.

This is a real burried gun, my friends. Who wants to compile with the
-fullwarn option? You get about 15 error messages from this little test
program. ANSI C is getting to be worse than Pascal :-{


/Morten

--
Morten Kjeldgaard  ~ morten@oase.kemi.aau.dk ~ mok@kemi.aau.dk
Biostructural Chemistry, Department of Chemistry, Aarhus University
Langelandsgade 140, DK-8000 Aarhus C, Denmark
Phone: +45 86 12 46 33 ~ +45 86 20 27 11 x6518 ~ Fax: +45 86 19 61 99
From: yaron@ARISTO.TAU.AC.IL (Yaron Zabary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Maximum number of concurrent users under IRIX 4.0.x
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:50:37 GMT
Organization: Computation Center, Tel-Aviv University




  If you think of supporting mail users only/mainly, I would advise you to investigate
the POP/POP3 IMAP options, as they will take user-interface overhead down from the
SGI to the PC running the POP client.

-- 

-- Yaron.
-- 

-- Yaron.
From: jchauvin@netcom.com (John H. Chauvin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Xlogin Question: Adding a screen saver and root background
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:02:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


I am attempting to define a screen saver and custom root background
which would only be active/displayed when no user is logged on
(when pandora is running) overriding the default light blue
background and blank screen saver.

Since the file /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xlogin displays pandora, it seems
to be the logical place to insert the screen saver and background
commands. I have defined a screen saver using the "haven" command
(the SGI logo). The root background is displayed using the 
"bgpaste" command. Having done this, I have encountered some 
problems.

(1) Normally when the "haven" or "bgpaste" command is executed
in multiuser mode, a shell prompt is returned immediately. If 
I defined the commands in the Xlogin file to ran in the foreground,
the system locks up. I was forced to execute both commands in the
background. Why?

(2) Having made the changes to Xlogin, I logged off the system. The
new background appears and the screen saver is active. BUT, when I
attempt to log back on, the system hangs immediately after the
pandora screen disappears. What is going on? Help Mr. Wizard! 

I have been unable to solve this problem because I lack a concise
understanding of exactly what happens when a user logs into the system.
Can someone summaries the exact sequence of commands that are executed
during login. (Is xdm the problem?)

Thanks

John Chauvin
Northrop Corporation
Advanced Technology & Design Center
Pico Rivera, California
jchauvin@netcom.com
-- 
John H. Chauvin jchauvin@netcom.COM
Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sgi:12847 comp.unix.questions:10356
From: popelka@odysseus.uchicago.edu (Glenn Popelka)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: does anyone have the "dd" source code or good mtio examples???
Date: 25 Aug 92 13:59:32 GMT
Organization: University of Chicago  LASR

> i'm looking for the "dd" command source code if possible just as
> a (hopefully) classic example of using the mtio programmatic
> interface  -- any other good mtio examples would be fine too

 Look at wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4) in the directory
mirrors2/unix-c/tapes. Lots of tape stuff. Also, look in the
directory /mirrors2/4.3bsd-reno/usr.bin/mt for the 'mt' program
from net-2. Also see mirrors2/4.3bsd-reno/usr.sbin/rmt for remote
mag tape handling. It'd probably be worth snagging the whole
4.3bsd-reno directory if you have room... 
 
glenn
 
> "acadian driftwood, gypsy tailwind; they call my home, the land of snow" -jrr
 
  Hmm, a Band man. Not many of them left...
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sgi:12936 news.groups:17180
From: wicks@dcdsv0.fnal.gov (Matthew Wicks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,news.groups
Subject: Re: Splitting up comp.sys.sgi
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:44:10 GMT
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, Batavia IL

Note I cross-posted this to news.groups, and directed follow up to that group
as well....


In article <ottmar.02ot@ajberl.adsp.sub.org>, ottmar@ajberl.adsp.sub.org (Ottmar Roehrig) writes:
|> How are the affords in splitting up comp.sys.sgi going on? The
|> traffic we have here becomes a lot too much for my taste/time... (ok,
|> it would be much worse if there was less traffic at all :-)

The results of two RFD's provided a pretty clear direction of what groups we
should have. The one unresolved issue is how the info-iris mailing list will
be handled. Although no one objected to my proposal, I have NEVER been able
to get in touch with the administrator of the info-iris list to see if the
proposal is okay with him and if he would be willing to implement it. This
doesn't really suprise me given the fact that people always have a real
difficult time getting on and off this mailing list.

I can think of a couple of possible solutions:

 - Proceed to a vote and do nothing about the info-iris mailing list and let
   the administrator of the mailing list worry about how to handle things.
   This probably won't be acceptable to the many people who read this newsgroup
   that way.
 - Someone else volunteer to handle the info-iris mailing lists and force
   people to re-subscribe.
 - Chuck Kennedy actually contacts me and works out a way to handle the group
   split up.

-- 
Matt Wicks
Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
wicks@fnal.fnal.gov
708-840-8083
From: karron@karron.med.nyu.edu (Dan Karron (karron@nyu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Move/Pop file backups
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:47:16 GMT


On karron.med.nyu.edu is some simple code to push a 'stack'
of backups,and pop the backups to some version number.

This is done in c, and Bourne shell. 

This way you can pop back to some verion of your file,
and maintain the smallest version number as being
closest to your current working version.

The idea here is while you are working on some
c or shell script, you never really clobber
a file, just make lots of .BAK.nnn extensions, and
if you make a mestake, the lower versions are
closer to your last push, the higher versions
are older.

A little test shell script is included that
should make it clear. Contributions, ideas
welcome.

Practice safe file! 


Cheers!

Dan.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: hollan@bellcore.com (Jim Hollan)
Subject: What Silicon Revision of R4000 Is Shipping?
Organization: /u/hollan/.organization
Distribution: comp
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:52:39


What silicon revision is shipping with R4000 indigo's?  As I understand
it there is a bug present in silicon revisions 2.1 and 2.2 that could
be a problem for us and we have a number of R4000 upgrades on order.

Jim

Xref: sparky comp.sys.sgi:12941 comp.sys.sun.admin:5866
From: williams@agomoda.asd.sgi.com (Eric Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: iris-ansi termcap/terminfo Entries for Sun?
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:32:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Aug25.222000.21308@ncar.ucar.edu> tres@roke.rap.ucar.edu (Tres Hofmeister) writes:

>	How do I go about acquiring termcap entries and terminfo
>files for the terminal types iris-ansi and iris-ansi-net for use on a
>Sun?  These are the terminal types for SGI's "winterm," and as Sun
>doesn't understand them, remote logins from the SGI's are painful.

On the SGI machine, try using 'infocmp -C' to make a termcap entry.  The
program captoinfo(1M) does the reverse (takes termcap descriptions and makes
terminfo descriptions).

Here's what I get:

% infocmp -C
iris-ansi|IRIS emulating 40 line ANSI terminal (almost VT100):\
        :am:pt:\
        :co#80:li#40:kn#4:\
        :AL=\E[%dL:DL=\E[%dM:DO=\E[%dB:LE=\E[%dD:RI=\E[%dC:\
        :UP=\E[%dA:al=\E[L:cd=\E[J:ce=\E[K:cl=\E[H\E[2J:\
        :cm=\E[%i%d;%dH:ct=\E[3g:dl=\E[M:ho=\E[H:\
        :is=\E[?1l\E>\E[?7h\E[100g\E[0m\E7\E[r\E8:k1=\E[001q:\
        :k2=\E[002q:k3=\E[003q:k4=\E[004q:k5=\E[005q:\
        :k6=\E[006q:k7=\E[007q:k8=\E[008q:k9=\EOP:kb=\b:\
        :kd=\E[B:kh=\E[H:kl=\E[D:kr=\E[C:ku=\E[A:nd=\E[C:\
        :rc=\E8:sc=\E7:se=\E[m:so=\E[1;7m:sr=\EM:st=\EH:\
        :ue=\E[m:up=\E[A:us=\E[4m:ve=\E[9/y\E[12/y\E[=6l:\
        :vs=\E[10/y\E[=1h\E[=2l\E[=6h:bc=\E[D:ko=le,nd,up,ho:


To handle remote logins you'll also want to add something like:

iris-ansi-net|IRIS connected to a remote host:tc=iris-ansi:


Good luck,
Eric Williams
From: rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: TN3270 for Indigo
Keywords: telnet, tn3270
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:42:16 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

Can anyone point me to a tn3270 package that will run on an Indigo.
We have an older version that runs on a 4d, but doesn't quite cut it
on our new Indigos.  Thanks in advance....

-- 
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