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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: SW sounds for Mac
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:54:37
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu's message of Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:10:37 GMT

>>>>> On Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:10:37 GMT, lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie Lim) said:


lim> This is just to let everyone (including Scott Streeter) know that
lim> I've popped some Mac sound files into the archives. There's about
lim> five or six of them, in a single file named "sws" which needs to
lim> be unBinHexed to use. I dunno whether it's necessary to delete
lim> the first line of the file first, although I did, and managed to
lim> unBinHex successfully. Also, there may be a heap of ^Z's at the
lim> end, which (if they're there) probably do need to be deleted.

Yes I got them. Thanks. They will be available later on today....

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From: stein_gs@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Glenn S Stein)
Subject: Re: SW STUFF
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:39:05 GMT


Mateusz,
   I have most figures, ships, and playsets.  What do you want?  The only
stuff i don't have is stuff I've already sold about ten figures and 6 ships.

Glenn
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From: barmiyan@wam.umd.edu (Amy Rebecca Ewing)
Subject: SWRPG
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:19:04 GMT

The second edition of the RPG is supposed to be out. Has anyone seen it,
and if so, how is it? What are the major rules changes, etc?

One of the things I'd like to see changed is the "hit points" system, or
lack thereof. Firing and hitting with weapons is fine, but the damage
system is sort of vague IMHO. Did they alter this? And if not, has anyone
come up with a better way of doing damage totals that you could tell me
about?

Also, is the rulebook the only thing to have a second edition, or are all
the sourcebooks updated too?

Last question. I live in the DC/Maryland area and have a very tough time
finding material for this game. The best I can do is Waldenbooks and they
never have more than one or two of the big hardcovers. Where can I find
more material and modules?

Thanks in advance,

Brian       BARMIYAN@wam.umd.edu
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: SW dialogue question?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 02:09:55 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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Mark Shaw <mshaw@uiuc.edu> writes:

>When Moff Tarkin is forcing Leia to divulge the location of the hidden
>rebel base right before they blow up Alderan, the line goes something
>like this:

>MT: For the last time, where is the rebel base.
>PL: Dantooine.  They're on Dantooine.
>MT: There.  You see, Lord Vader.  Continue with the operation, you may
>fire when ready.
>PL: What?!?
>MT: You're far to (word in question - Trusty?).  We will deal with your
>rebel friends soon enough.

far too trusting...

keith
From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: SW dialogue question?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 17:20:51 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
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In article <1992Nov16.223430.8033@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain) writes:

>>MT: You're far to (word in question - Trusty?).  We will deal with your
>>rebel friends soon enough.

>I believe he says "You're far to trust", indicating that he wouldn't trust
>her as far as he could throw her.
>
>Glenn..........

I believe he said "You're far too trusting." meaning that she falsly
                                       ^^^
trusted that he would not destroy Alderan when she told him the
"location" of the Rebel base.  Recall how angry he became when he was
informed later that she had lied to him about the base's location.

	Thanks
	Robert Fentiman

UseNet: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu
At: University of Minnesota, Duluth
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: FTP scripts/Director of new movies
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:18:47
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: ST201714@brownvm.brown.edu's message of Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:38:32 EST

>>>>> On Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:38:32 EST, ST201714@brownvm.brown.edu (L. Eduardo Romo) said:

ST201714> News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

ST201714> This may be a stupid question, but I downloaded the Star
ST201714> Wars Scripts from the wpi.wpi.edu archive, and they were
ST201714> all, how shall I say, funky looking.  There were no words,
ST201714> just symbols, and some letters. How do I decode them if they
ST201714> are decoded?  Also, are all the files there like this?  If
ST201714> so, does anyone know of any other sites which aren't
ST201714> encoded?  If anyone can help me out, that would be great!

Why don't people EVER get the 00README files? It's all explained in
there, but i'll post it here too....
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 Unix systems just type -  uncompress file.Z  - to uncompress it.
MAC user can use the program maccompress-32.hqx - It can be found on
 the FTP site: sumex-aim.stanford.edu in the directory /info-mac/util/
VMS users can use the program lzdcmp.exe to uncompress the .Z files.
 It can be found on the FTP site: wuarchive.wustl.edu in the
 directory /packages/compression/vax-vms
Remember to download ALL files with the .Z, .gif, .jpg and .eps suffix
 in BINARY mode. To do this simply type -  bin  - at the ftp> prompt.
 If not the files may not work after the transfer.

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From: tilden@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (Tilden-Master of Illogic)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Attn:  Original StarWars Posters
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:48:25 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
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Iconographics has some of the ORIGINAL Star Wars posters including
"Revenge of the Jedi" Posters!!  Mail orders accepted from 9am-6pm.
Call 1-800-279-9779.

Tilden
 
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:23:26 -0500 
From: Robert Alan Danforth <rd2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Luke's lightsaber

>the point.  Perhaps people do not realize the extent of the symbolism in
>Star Wars.  Lucas even hired that mythology guy (his name escapes me)--he
>did this on purpose.  Maybe people would be interesting in discuss some
>of the allusions--mostly religious--present in the trilogy).  However,


Was it Joseph Campbell?  I've heard that Joseph cambell wrote in some book (or
was it the Bill Moyers interview?) that Star Wars is his favorite movie of all
time, precisely because it's a conflict between myth and technology (and myth
wins.)

- Robert Danforth
Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:22:58 EST
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Is Vadar thick or what?

>When Luke and Leia are talking about Yoda in Book 1 they conclude that he
>hadn't been found because of the cave's "dark" Force cancelling his as an
>electron and proton do. If this is the case why in the films has Ben
>Kenobi gone undiscovered so long? There wasn't any dark Force there.

We don't know that.

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From: shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham)
Subject: Junior Imperial Officers
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 02:00:09 GMT

Hi everybody.

Whenever watching SW, I like to choose a "theme" and observe the entire trilogy
from that perspective. Today's theme is the behavior of the junior imperial
officers (JIOs). These are the guys above the stormtroopers, but not so high
as the captains and admirals (the 'named' officers).

The JIOs are (sometimes) REALLY *funny*. They do *NOT* maintain the poker faces
that so characterizes their superiors (and the stormtroopers below them have no
visible faces at all). Free of the fear of failure that freezes the their
superiors, they openly display emotions in their voice, expressions, and words.

I will give a few examples, but leave most instances for you to discover (there
are *lot* of examples).

- A New Hope
Detention area JIO upon seeing Chewey: "Where are you taking this...thing?",
in a voice that makes his views on Wookies clear.

-Empire Strikes Back:
Near Hoth, when Vader "relieves" Ozzel of his duties and promotes Piett, a JIO
(I think the one that alerted Piett to the report from the Hoth probe) can't
help himself and stretchs his neck to look into the camera (where, presumably
Vader is visible). [Look for this scene - it is really funny]
[there are other instances of JIOs who can't avoid turning their heads or
streching their necks to look into the camera]

After the MF attached itself to Needa's SD, the following exchange takes place:
  TRACKING JIO: Captain Needa, the ship no longer appears on our scopes.
  NEEDA: They can't have disappeared. No ship that small has a cloaking device.
  TRACKING JIO: Well, there's no trace of them, sir.
The voice with which this last remark is said clearly betrays a "I don't care
about your theories - they are not on the scope, and it is your neck, not mine
that's on the line" attitude.

- Return of the Jedi
When Vader shuttle approached the DS II (very begining), DS controller says in
a very self-important voice: "The security deflector shield will be deactivated
 when we have confirmation of your code transmission." (I think Vader's shuttle
got more red tapes to fly through than Shuttle Tydirium :-) )

After Luke surrendered to the empire, a JIO handed him to Vader saying in a
very proud voice: "This is a Rebel that surrendered to us. Although he denies
it, I believe there may be more of them, and I request permission to conduct a
further search of the area.  He was armed only with this."

When trapped in the bunker, JIO says: "Freeze! You Rebel scum." to Han and the
rest of the scum.


Dan Shoham               shoham@ll.mit.edu
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From: HDW@UCSVAX (H D WALDEN)
Subject: ATTENTION BOSTON AREA SW FANS!!!
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:24:28 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24






	I just heard from someone today that the Wang Center will be showing all
three Star Wars movies sometime in January! Is that true? If you know any speci-
fic details (i.e. time, when tickets are available...) please E-mail me. Thanx.

 	-Dave Walden, UMASS
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: LUKE & LEIA
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:02:26
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
	<1992Nov23.113225.4874@newstand.syr.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: wggray@mothra.syr.EDU's message of Mon, 23 Nov 92 11:32:24 EST

>>>>> On Mon, 23 Nov 92 11:32:24 EST, wggray@mothra.syr.EDU (William G. Gray) said:

wggray> In article <SS.92Nov23073548@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>>>>>> On 23 Nov 92 01:06:37 GMT, albusacc@eos.ncsu.edu (ALEXANDRIA LIN BUSACCA) said:
>
>albusacc> On another note, if the Emperor had forseen Vader's son
>albusacc> destroying him then why couldn't he forsee Leia being
>albusacc> Vaedr's daughter?  Or is it that the Emperor could only
>albusacc> forsee what was going to happen to him?
>
>Becaues Lucas didn't come up with the idea of Leia being Luke's
>sister til he made Jedi.  	

wggray> Not so, at least, not directly. If you recall in TESB, after
wggray> Luke leaves Dagobah, Yoda and Ben are talking about "another" Jedi,
wggray> "Yoda:There is another", so Leia is already being referred to as
wggray> the other jedi, and thus Luke's sister (who else could be a Jedi
wggray> in this series?).:-)
wggray> --Wild Bill

Sorry but i'm right. In "From Star Wars to Jedi", Lucas himself in an
interview says, that during the light saber battle at the end of Jedi,
he couldn't think of anything good enogh that would get Luke mad
enough to attack Vader. That was when he came up with Leia to be
Luke's sister. When Vader say he will turn Leia to the dark side, is
when he looses it. Watch "From Star Wars to Jedi" some time.....


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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 18:48:13 EST
From: Kevin Foss <IO20816@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: FTP scripts/Director of new movies

In article <SS.92Nov20141847@wpi.WPI.EDU>, ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) says:
>
>Remember to download ALL files with the .Z, .gif, .jpg and .eps suffix
> in BINARY mode. To do this simply type -  bin  - at the ftp> prompt.
> If not the files may not work after the transfer.

Um, well actually unless the .eps file has been made for a specific computer,
(e.g. has a binary bitmap header) than can be safely transfered in ASCII mode.
I have transmitted both of the Star Wars logo eps files off the Archives in
ASCII mode.  And to future   uploaders, it would probably be best that .eps
were kept that way (with either no preview header or all, or a device
independant header.    Also to this file, it might be nice to list where to
get a decompressor for DOS machines...if I can find it,  I'll email a
location to get that file.
-Kevin
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From: tchambers@trentu.ca (Terrence Chambers)
Subject: Re: The Next SW Film will not be out soon!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:51:00 GMT

In article <1ep9ulINNcib@aludra.usc.edu>, joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes...
>PLEASE!!!  Why don't you people understand that the next Star Wars film
>will not be out in '93? or '94 or probably '95?

[stuff deleted]

> 
>I've already made $10 (I consider it money in the pocket) by betting
>someone that the next SW film will not be out in '93. Anyone else?

I'll go with you on that one...you should have made the bet higher!  There 
is no way in hell that there is going to be another SW movie ready by next 
year.  It would take at least two years before a SW movie would be ready to 
go and that would probably be pushing it, to say the least.

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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Lucas: director vs. producer
Date: 17 Nov 1992 07:20:53 GMT
Organization: Turkey Hall
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

>    One person we definately don't need doing Star Wars is old Tim Burton.
>'Nuff said.
>
>                                     -Ed

Enough indeed!  AARGH, Tim Burton would ruin the whole dang thing.  I'm mad
enough he's doing something in Disney now.  Ick.

Anyway, Joe Johnston (who is a likely candidate, it seems) would make a
WONDERFUL Star Wars director, IMHO.  I think he could do a very decent job
of it, adding a subtle new flavor but still keeping Star Wars in the same
classic tradition.  I'm actually rather glad Spielberg isn't going to do them,
although I think he's one of the best directors to have ever lived -- the
reason is Spielberg's style is very distinct, and I don't think it would mix
well with Star Wars.

Ho hum.  Any other thoughts out there?
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From: rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr)
Subject: Re: Topps SW cards and SW fans
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:16:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.161954.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith) writes:
>> card #207 (I think) of the fourth series which has
>> a picture of C3PO.  One version of the card has a metal (?) projection
>> just behind C3PO in just a way that it looks like C3PO has a penis!
>
>I am looking at the OPC card #141. It is the same as Topps #207. I think you
>have a VERY unhealthy imigination!

The above card that I mentioned, #207 (If that is the card, it has C3PO sort
of slouching in a cramped corridor) is a very well know error card.  So, 
although yes, I have a good imagination, this is not something I imagined.

					Ron
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Super Star Wars, X-Wing
Date: 21 Nov 1992 01:50:42 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


Super Star Wars for the Super Nintendo is out. Got mine today. Also
the release date in Software Etc for X-Wing was 11/20 (today), but
they were not there yet, so it should be soon...

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:10:35 EST
From: <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: STAR WARS MUSIC
Distribution: world
 <8572@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>   <12NOV92162533@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu>
 <1992Nov16.123217.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
 <92322.200914MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>

Maybe the answer to this whole 75 or whatever CD limit is that the poster who s
aid Sony decided on that limit for their CDs was right. And since the Star Wars
music has been around since 1977 it was perhaps one of the earliest CDs release
d. Then after more albums came out that were longer than the limit for a CD's
length, the commpany changed it's policy and made longer CDs.  However, this
wouldn't have included updating the old CDs to fit on the more compact versions
, thus Star Wars remains in its double CD format. just my theory!
                                     ------Eric Sansoni
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From: HDW@UCSVAX (H D WALDEN)
Subject: Re: LUKE & LEIA
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:00:54 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <23NOV92150725@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu> dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu writes:

> In article <1erbtnINNquj@aludra.usc.edu>, joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes...
> >In article <SS.92Nov23140226@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
> >>
> >>Sorry but i'm right. In "From Star Wars to Jedi", Lucas himself in an
> >>interview says, that during the light saber battle at the end of Jedi,
> >>he couldn't think of anything good enogh that would get Luke mad
> >>enough to attack Vader. That was when he came up with Leia to be
> >>Luke's sister. When Vader say he will turn Leia to the dark side, is
> >>when he looses it. Watch "From Star Wars to Jedi" some time.....


> *************************************************************************
>*>I'm not so sure about that. When I watch From STAR WARS to JEDI I always *
>*>understand that Lucas is saying that he needed something to tick Luke     *
>*>off so he had Vader mention Leia. I didn't think that Lucas AT THAT POINT *
>*>came up with the idea. The way I understood it was that Leia was already  *
>*>written in to be the "other" and when it came to the Saber duel, it       *
>*>just fit in as a good way to send Luke over the edge.                     *
>*>Personally, I think that the idea was there all along, maybe not in its, *
>*>entirety but definitely as an image.*************************************
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 	I have declared that the latter is correct, and that the other person
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 11:35:46 -0500 
From: "Nathanel J. Barlow" <nb2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Some thoughts on Stormtroopers
	<kmcintyr.722013666@unix1.tcd.ie>

In message <kmcintyr.722013666@unix1.tcd.ie>,kmcintyr@unix1.tcd.ie
(Kenny McIntyre) writes:

>>On the other hand, is it just me or do the Stormtroopers prove to be
>>more effective when Vader is with them?

>Do you mean your more effective when Vader is with you?

Either that of the stormtroopers that Vader has with him are truly the
best of the bunch.

Nate
From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: More questions for StarWars fans
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:43:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu



I don't know but if I were Leia I sure wouldn't want to drop off
Han and continue on with just Luke and C3PO and R2D2. I mean, Han
was a major catch. I'd do everything possible to keep him around.
;-).....Otherwise she would have been stuck with Luke, and as we
found out, things would have been rather sticky when the truth
came out ;-).........


Sally


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Amore e 'l cor gentil sono una cosa,	   |||	 Sally A. Wilson
  si come il saggio in suo dittare pone	   |||	 Spudnix Peel
  e cosi esser l'una sanza l'altro osa     |||	 sally@mica.berkeley.edu
  com'alma razional sanza ragione.  [_Vita_Nova_ XX, Dante]