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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Mar Y Sol festival - Mahavishnu & ELP
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 14:42:04 GMT


While rummaging through my vinyl collection the other day I found
this double album of excerpts from Mar Y Sol the first annual 
Puerto Rico Pop festival. Most of the stuff is not interesting
(Dr. Hook, Nitzinger, etc.) although B.B. King does a song and
Osibisa (they had Roger Deam covers) does one. Of interest to proggers
is the Mahavishnu Orchestra doing a blistering version of 'The Noonward
Race', and ELP doing a very folkish 'Take a Pebble/Luck Man'.
The festival took place in April 1972.

Any Mahavishnu Orch. fans out there ? Can anyone reccomend a reliable
mail order place for getting live (bootleg) CDs of Mahavishnu ? I'm
also looking for a video of when they were on Don Kirshener's Rock Concert,
and any other live videos.
 
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll
From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Manfred Mann and Bruce Springsteen?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 10:00:12 GMT

	Just curious--  does anyone know just what the connection was between
Manfred Mann's Earth Band and Bruce Springsteen?  I know that two of MM's 
most played songs ("Spirits in the Night" and "Blinded by the Light") were
Springsteen covers, and I wouldn't be surprised if some other of their tunes
were as well.  (Was "I Came for You" a cover as well?--  I'm  not sure).

	Was someone in the band just good friends with Bruce, or did they
just happen to like his songs?

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: Jim <James.K.Pinkelman@nd.edu>
Subject: David Byrne Tour Dates
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CBD803A502401E@jpinkelman.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 3 Sep 92 14:56:03 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:45:14 GMT

I'm really anxious to get info on upcoming dates in
David Byrne's concert schedule.  I'm specifically interested in
concerts near Chicago.  I can't get a copy of the current Rolling
Stone Magazine which would definitely have the information.

Thanks in advance.
From: gmt@reef.cis.ufl.edu (GMM)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Steve Hackett tour dates???????
Date: 29 Aug 92 14:50:26 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Does anyone have the tour dates for Steve Hackett's tour?  I am especially
interested in the Atlanta date(s).

Thanks,
Gary McTaggart (gmt@cis.ufl.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc,alt.fan.peter.hammill
From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: Prog Rock Isolationism (Was Re: Welcome to alt.fan.peter.hammill)
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:43:24 GMT

In article <jester.714871668@crash> jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb) writes:
>I question if there is a need for this group: don't get me wrong, I'm a
>big fan of pH and vdgg, *BUT* this smacks of the elitist, narrow world-view
>promoted by the rush newsgroup.
>
>We should spend more time *sharing* our musical knowledge than we do
>hoarding it in yet-another-altgroup-for-an-artist.

Hear hear!  I seem to average 20-30 messages a day on this group, with a
threaded newsreader it's nothing to weed out the crap and just read the 2-3
messages I'm interested in (crap = worse yes song, etc).  If you move the
Peter Hammill discussion to a new group I won't be able to read it.

jim

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: white@mps.ohio-state.edu (The Master)
Subject: Re: TR/U "The Ikon"
Organization: S.H.A.D.O.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:22:40 GMT


	Todd is a master engineer, so he has a habit of filling up
album sides with a ton of music.  I don't have a vinyl copy of the
original "Utopia" LP, but on at least two other albums Todd packs
in over 30 minutes a side, "Initiation" and "A Wizard A True Star".

Dave White
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: andreoni@wpi.WPI.EDU (Marco Andreoni)
Subject: Steve Hackett Tour
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:42:54 GMT

I have a simple question, does anybody know if Steve Hackett is coming to 
Massachusetts or Connecticut to play live?  If so, when and where?  Thanks
in advance

						Marco
andreoni@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: borella@netcom.com (Mike Borella)
Subject: Re: Some thoughts
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 15:36:59 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <d2sR02TM1fJe01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com writes:
>In article <9208280511.AA19206@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu> borella@cs.ucdavis.edu (Mike Borella) writes:
>>The new Syn-Phonic catalog is fantastic.  There are loads of new CDs
>>available, and Greg Walker is putting a bunch out on the label.
>>Here's a partial list of what he plans to release:
>>Yezda Urfa - Sacred Baboon
>>Babylon - Babylon (Genesis sounding)

>I don't believe it !! Two of the best long-lost American progressive bands
>and I thought these two would  n e v e r  be released on CD.Reserve my
>copies of both !!! Does Walker give any release dates on these ?

No, but he says one CD will be released every 2 months or so.  So I'd expect 
to see at least one of them in the near future.  Oh yeah, Yezda Urfa's
rare first release, Boris, is on his list as well.

-Mike

Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll
From: klg40528@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kevin L. Goodwin)
Subject: Re: DO NOT TRADE WITH JEFF WOODALL AND ERIC ELLISON!!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:18:26 GMT

 I also have had no problems with Eric E......
 I purchased some Queensryche tapes off of him, hassle-free.....
 maybe you ought to talk to him first....

 k.goodwin  university of illinois
From: smiller@bgsu.edu (scott miller)
Subject: Lyrics
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:44:18 GMT

Hello everyone,

I am really sorry if this is a FAQ, but does anyone know of
any ftp sites which distribute lyrics.  In particular I'm
looking for Joy Division, and other groups of that nature.

I would be eternally grateful to anyone who directed me to
such a place.  If you could, please respond by e-mail, because
I don't get to read the news very often.

As it says in the header, my address is smiller@bgsu.edu

Thank you,
Scott
From: emery@Dr_No.mitre.org (David Emery)
Subject: Re: Colin Powell's Record (halting the pursuit prematurely)
Followup-To: alt.desert-storm
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.
	<184ki4INNh02@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:16:52 GMT

>And another thing, before I exhaust my rage. Bush should have listened
>very carefully to the commander on the spot (Schwarzkopf) before
>interfering in the battle. Unless there were very compelling reasons
>it was properly Schwarzkopf's call as to when to halt the battle.

It is clearly Bush's call when to end the battle when, in his
judgement as Commander in Chief and also political leader, the
political objectives have been met.  It is not clear to me that the
coalition could have withstood a lot more media pressure on
"massacres" of "poor innocent Iraqui draftees".  

Military objectives must conform to the political objectives.  I'd
point to the German attacks in WWI as a good example of what happens
when the political leaders subrogate their judgement to the military
leaders.  

				dave

p.s.  If you don't like Colin Powell as a political soldier, how do
you feel about George Marshall?
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Bush giving up? (Colin Powell)
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:38:18 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Sep3.163825.11320@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> hlin@cbnewsi.cb.att.com writes:

> There is just no telling how far the blame for Bush's failure can go.
> No one complained about the disproportionately large number of blacks in
> desert storm.

  Yes, they did.  In fact, it was a favorite line of some of the protesters.
An all-volunteer force will draw mostly on those with less than stellar 
economic prospects.  Proportionately more blacks are poor than whites.  It
doesn't require a college degree to figure out what will happen next -- just
to call it racism.

  You WILL NOT EVER get a truly representative peacetime army without a "no
exceptions" style draft.  The poorer and less-advantaged will always be more
represented than the well-off.  Of course, a draft inringes on an individual's
rights.

  Pick one.  A draft, or disproportionate representation.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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From: drm@esl.com (Don McGregor)
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
Subject: Iraqis attempt to kill UN inspectors
Date: 31 Aug 92 07:20:21 GMT
Reply-To: drm@esl.com
Organization: ESL, a TRW Subsidiary

According to a report from Cox news service, some Iraqi sentries
attached a time bomb to the bottom of a car carrying three UN
inspectors thursday.  While the inspectors were stopped and their
car was being searched (in contravention of policy), they noticed
someone slip under their car and tamper with the undercarriage.
They later found the bomb after clearing the checkpoint.

"I cannot deny it.  The incident happened," according to the
coordinator of the UN's inter-agency humanitarian program
in Iraq  The US was informed of the incident Saturday.

(Interestingly enough, Mitterand's wife was in a convoy that was
hit by a car bomb several weeks ago while near the Kurdish/Iraqi
demarcation line.  Hmmmm.)

Personally, I think Saddam's gonna get whacked for this one.
Bush has obviously been unenthusiastic about military action
while the election's on; there are too many variables and too
much of a downside risk.  But attempting to kill UN officials escalates 
things in a pretty nasty way, and I doubt that an open season on UN
inspectors can be allowed to run for the 70-odd days until the election.

Fearless prediction: The US and allies bomb Baghdad and selected
RG targets, and announce that Saddam must go.  Revolts in the
North and South are given air cover.  With a clear commitment from
the US that Saddam will be toppled, one way or another, coup planning
increases.  Saddam buys it from a bomb (low but non-trivial possibility)
or a 9 mm slug.  It's unclear that Iraq remains as a united state after
all this, which is a loss.  Clinton and the congress would instantly climb on 
board for this one, for a null op to slight Bush bounce in the polls.

Why: I don't see a merely punative expedition as being saleable to the
US public.  If we're going to start shooting again, the gov't will want
to take him off the board once and for all, and stop all this nonsense
about "cheat and retreat" on the ceasefire agreement.  A commitement
to removing him will start people thinking about who takes his place
afterwards.  If he's a dead man at the hands of the US/allies
in a short period of time anyway, the jockeying for postion will be
given a big boost.  The societal stresses of another war will relax
the Iraqi government's grip on the citizens, leading to revolt.

---
Don McGregor | "That which does not overflow my swap file 
drm@esl.com  | makes me stronger."
From: drm@jester (Don McGregor )
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
Subject: Re: Iraqis attempt to kill UN inspectors
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:41:33 GMT
Reply-To: drm@esl.com

In article <1351@esl.ESL.COM> drm@esl.com (Don McGregor) writes:
> 
> Personally, I think Saddam's gonna get whacked for this one.

OK, so I was wrong.

Anyway, a Kuwati policeman was killed on the Iraq/Kuwait border the other  
day, and a UN official with them wounded.  Reportedly the Iraqis have  
begun recruiting and training for the army again.

At first I was always amused by the overblown Iraqi statements on this or  
that--resisting to the death, fighting the evil imperialists, refusing to  
accept border demarcation with Kuwait, etc.--but then I noticed that they  
always reflected their ultimate *intentions*, even if they were incapable  
of carrying them out just yet.  They might back down if confronted by a  
clear threat of force, but the statements were accurate summaries of what  
they wanted to do (once you removed the adjectives).  This is quite a  
change from the cold war, when everyone said one thing and meant something  
else.  

Looks like Saddam has a certain amount of slack until the election and  
maybe the inaguration if there's a change of government. Be interesting to  
see how finely he can judge it.  I'd hate to be a UN employee in Iraq  
during that time.

----
Don McGregor
drm@esl.com
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
From: biow@cs.umd.edu (chris biow)
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm,alt.conspiracy,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Gulf Vet Illness
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:44:19 GMT
Followup-To: alt.desert-storm
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Followups-To: alt.conspiracy

In article <1992Aug14.142930.10165@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aj336@cleveland.Freenet.
Edu (Pat Weber) writes:

>Some Gulf vets are complaining of a mysterious virus
>beleived to come from inhaling the oil smoke. The Pentagon apparently
>did studies of this prior to the war, but never revealed the results.

Pat, you posted to the wrong newsgroups. alt.conspiracy and alt.folklore.urban
are more appropriate groups. I suppose there is a sci.something that might
find an oil-smoke borne virus interesting, too.

But, if you repeat it enough, the press will pick it up, just as they
did the one about the soldier/marine having to call his headquarters in
the US with an ATT calling card.                                                
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm,talk.politics.misc
From: cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster)
Subject: Re: Bush giving up? (Colin Powell)
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.bush,alt.desert-storm
In-reply-to: tedrick@triangle.Berkeley.EDU's message of 3 Sep 1992 02:13:56 GMT
Organization: pubs
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:03:17 CDT

Tom Tedrick writes:

   Bush looks so sad, tired, and defeated-looking that I feel sorry
   for him.

I DON'T!

-- Chris Brewster
Newsgroups: alt.desert-storm
From: jpw@minerva.ece.drexel.edu (Joseph Wetstein)
Newsgroups: alt.bacchus
Subject: test
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:51:01 GMT
Distribution: phl
Organization: Drexel University, Philadelphia PA

test post
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: Re: how stupid can you get?
Date: 29 Aug 92 04:56:30 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

><In article <guest.66@dhhalden.no> guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST) writes:
><In article <ATAYLOR.92Aug21133449@gauss.nmsu.edu> ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) writes:
>
><><In article <1992Aug20.044645.8838@nuscc.nus.sg> matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Mcinnes B T (Dr)) writes:
>
><><well?
>
><>       I read and post to this group of which I am a princling,
><>       my deemble farthings dwamble and that in graduate school,
><>       no less.
>
><>       So there.
>
>
><   Anybody get this???
>
>
>	I certainly don't.

Obviously, he posted that here by mistake.  It belongs in alt.poetry.vogon
(or maybe alt.prose.vogon).
Bill Marcum
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: Re: Originator
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:13:07 GMT
Reply-To: behanna@syl.nj.nec.com
Followup-To: alt.stupidity
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.

In article <1992Aug25.181144.25552@nic.umass.edu> rjr@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Richard J. Resnick) writes:
>Hello,
>
>Sorry this isn't stoooopid, but, I was wondering, who originated this news-
>group, and under what intention? Was it just to be stoooopid? To have a chan-
>nel where people could be stoopid out loud, and for no reason? If so, I think
>that it's a great idea.

	Actually, I remember this list as having originated to be a place to
showcase examples of glaring human stupidity.  Like the story that was posted
about the checkout lady at a department store who undid the tattletape on
some video game cartridges by passing them against a MAGNET.  The customer
complained, new cartridges were brought, and the cashier did it AGAIN.  The
customer asked what was done with the returned items, and the store manager
answered something to the effect of "Oh, we just repackage them and put them
back on the shelf."  DUH!

	I personally would like to see more of such stories (preferably true
anecdotes of your own experience).

Later,
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114   1983 Harley-Davidson FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	   (I need another bike for this space!)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
From: eepmatt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Matthew Friedman)
Subject: Poverty in Australia
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:14:54 GMT

A class of ten year olds in a Southport school on the Gold Coast in Australia
was asked to write an essay on poverty. The son of a prominent millionaire
turned in this short paragraph:

"Once upon a time there was a poor family in Paradise Waters [an affluent Gold
Coast Suburb]. The father was poor, the mother was poor. The maid, the
chauffeur and the gardener were poor too. Even the man who looked after the
father's yacht was poor. The family had to economise, so they sacked the
butler."


Lemmings,
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: YOUR 3rd BALL?
From: nunn@nutmeg.ntu.edu.au (JsNO  BAR---NUNN)
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:11:53 +0900
Distribution: world
Organization: Information Technology, Northern Territory University
Keywords: Unknown


  Is it true that we all have a 3rd ball?


  I was talking to this rather attractive (and rather pissed) medical student
at the uni bar the other night. She reckons that we all have a 3rd ball. It's
actually your chopped off amblical cord that sits rolled up the other side of
your belly button like a spring.

  She said that the problem is that if someone was to hit someone else in the
back hard enough, it would stick out like an erect penis.


  The question that I want to ask is: Is she having me on?, Have we really
got a 3rd ball?.



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Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: Originator
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:09:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.181144.25552@nic.umass.edu> rjr@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Richard J. Resnick) writes:
>Hello,
>
>Sorry this isn't stoooopid, but, I was wondering, who originated this news-
>group, and under what intention? Was it just to be stoooopid? To have a chan-
>nel where people could be stoopid out loud, and for no reason? 
I would say about 90% of the alt newsgroups fit that description (It's what I
love about Usenet!)
>If so, I think
>that it's a great idea.
Then you're just the kind of person alt.stupidity was created for :-)
Actually, I have no idea who created this group or why.  But any day now,
he/she is likely to show up and say that we've all got it wrong and this group
is only for postings of stupid job offers, or about the new Stupidity(tm)
operating system, or some such nonsense.

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com
From: abw@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Andy Wardley)
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
Subject: Re: Originator
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:04:19 GMT
Organization: International Computers Limited

In article <BtKGK2.JLy.....> bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum) writes:
>Actually, I have no idea who created this group or why.  But any day now,
>he/she is likely to show up and say that we've all got it wrong and this group
>is only for postings of stupid job offers, or about the new Stupidity(tm)
>operating system, or some such nonsense.

Actually I started this newsgroup.

Oh hang on, no I didn't.

Sorry


OBStupidity:  Floop floop turnip kettle bang on a power cheese.
Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: Re: Originator
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:20:17 GMT

<In article <1992Aug25.181144.25552@nic.umass.edu> rjr@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Richard J. Resnick) writes:

<Sorry this isn't stoooopid,

	It COULD be...

<but, I was wondering, who originated this news-group, 


	Prolly some stupid person.

<and under what intention? 

	Prolly a stoopid intention.

<Was it just to be stoooopid? 

	Maybe.

<To have a channel where people could be stoopid out loud, 
	
	Huh? You *listen* to alt.stoopidity?

	Wow, that's a new one!


Newsgroups: alt.stupidity
From: guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST)
Subject: Re: how stupid can you get?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:54:49 GMT

In article <ATAYLOR.92Aug21133449@gauss.nmsu.edu> ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy) writes:

><In article <1992Aug20.044645.8838@nuscc.nus.sg> matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Mcinnes B T (Dr)) writes:

><well?

>       I read and post to this group of which I am a princling,
>       my deemble farthings dwamble and that in graduate school,
>       no less.

>       So there.



Anybody get this???