HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: daniel@clsi.COM (Daniel Barclay)
Subject: Re: Hints (Was Re: What is attractive)
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
	<1992Nov5.182021.23840@schbbs.mot.com>
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:03:49

> The response to the 'hints' thread has been great.  I summarized the  
> various opinions I have been gathering:

Regarding *some* of the *gathered opinions* (don't flame me for statistical
errors):  So why the h*ll is it always the guy's responsibility?  What happened
to the two sides of communication (and strived-for equality in general)?

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Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
From: jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:33:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.040636.4774@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.015417.11404@netcom.com> kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas David Kehoe) writes:
>>
>>One of friends does something I haven't tried:
>>borrow someone's baby (like your sister's) and
>>go for a walk in the park or on the beach.
>>My friend said that babies attract women like
>>magnets.
>
>A puppy works too.
>

	Cunningly hidden  bear-traps work just  dandy, too. I had
more  luck  with the letters-of-transit  signed by the  the President
of  France, though.

						James Nicoll

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Late at night
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:34:25 GMT

In article <lfmp4bINNb6s@news.bbn.com>, ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:
> Gosh, it's almost 11pm, I'm still in the office.  Why am I always the
> one to turn on the burglar alarm?
> 

Be careful speaking about burglar alarms on this net, it can get you into 
trouble.

> 	-- Anita --
> 	aka Scooter
>
From: bill@ka2qhd.de.com (Bill Luzenko)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: why can't men dance together and just be friends?? why must they allways ask some asshole woman ??
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:23:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: ka2qhd - Ocean NJ

a

woman can go out and dance together and have a good time. Why is it that
when men dance together we are called homo's or queers?
I can sesome social pressure but I'm trying to figure it out. 
Where did this come from? How did it evolve? Why are the constraints still
existant? Who benefits from the lack of social freedom? Why can't we break
out of the stigma?
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer)
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Organization: Netcom - San Jose, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 14:06:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct29.185334.6049@netcom.com> tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
>
>  Tyger
>
>Bush/Quayle
>Seymour/Herschensohn
>
>So there.
>

     Weren't the election results great.  The old-fashioned, social intrusive,
hyprocritical pro-life Republicans lost.

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From: don@island.COM (Don Hermes)
Subject: Lesbian Killers was (Re: Strong women in film (was Re: What do you Am men think about Am women?))
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:03:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.050437.20319@leland.Stanford.EDU> farthing@leland.Stanford.EDU (ljf) writes:
>
>Just a coincidence that nearly all the lesbian and bisexual women are
>killers?
>

You mean that's not how they are in real life ?

Don
don@island.com


Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.men,soc.women
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am women?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:08:46 GMT

mysti@sybase.com (Mysti) writes:

>I don't find it extremely common.  Perhaps you have done an actual
>study of the literature?  Something to compare with Susan Faludi's
>"Backlash" research (remember, she *is* a Pulitzer prize winner),

Hmm, doesn't this put her in the same company as a reporter who made
up a story about a 12-year-old heroin addict?  (The fact that she won
a prize of some sort does not certify her research as anything at all,
let alone good.)

Morton Subotnick won a Pulitzer prize for music some years ago (for
"Silver Apples of the Moon" which was not nearly as good as "The Wild
Bull" IMO.)  How popular and respected is he in the musical community?
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female boy/guy/male
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:46:26 GMT
	<1992Nov10.060932.28448@samba.oit.unc.edu>
	<1992Nov10.184253.20942@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>
	<JMD.92Nov11143912@lion.bear.com>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: jmd@bear.com's message of 11 Nov 92 19:39:12 GMT

In article <JMD.92Nov11143912@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:

   Better than dating a sculpture...

Worked for Pygmalion.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
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From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.couples,soc.men,soc.women
Subject: Re: Presidential Poll- Some comments from you.
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:48:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: grover.MARTINC.92Nov6104855
	<1992Nov4.173520.8086@b8.b8.ingr.com>
Followup-To: soc.singles
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com's message of 4 Nov 92 17:35:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.173520.8086@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:


   In article <1992Nov3.160329.2383@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
   > 
   > Unfortunately I agree.  You would think that one of these brilliant
   > candidates would see the light, realize that the people are sick of
   > the bull and distastful tactics, and run a "straight from the hip,
   > address the issues only, I don't care what the others did when they

   Again, Quite unfortunate, but studies show that "negative"
   campaigning is the single MOST effective plan.  The study I read said
   they based the findings on time investment, cost, and surveys taken.

You know, I've noticed that no one watches pro wrestling on TV either.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: matt@severian.chi.il.us (Matt Crawford)
Subject: Re: That wacky electoral college
Organization: The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:00:46 GMT

I find it hard to credit some of the answers I have read here to the
question "why do we have the [adjective] electoral college."  Charles
Martin got half the answer, but for a fuller explanation, look in the
newspaper.  Specifically, the letter by Alexander Hamilton (writing
under the name Publius) in *The Independent Journal* of March 12,
1788 and in *The New-York Packet* two days later.


__________________________________________________________
Matt Crawford       matt@severian.chi.il.us       Java Man
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: That wacky electoral college
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:36:02 GMT

huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:

>By the way, U.S. Senators have been elected by popular vote only
>since 1913.  It took the 17th Amendment to make that possible.

Yes, and that is the root of all evil--or at least the root of the
current decline of Congress.  

(The root of all evil is actually the income tax, which allowed the
federal government to collect vast sums of money with no reason in
mind.  Previously, the gummint had to come to the states with its hat
in its hand and beg for money for its projects.)
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:57:02 GMT

In article <92308.183817CMSTEST@GTRI01.GATECH.EDU> Jeffery Swagger <CMSTEST@GTRI01.GATECH.EDU> writes:
>In article <Bx5uC3.4LG@access.digex.com>, huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
>says:
>>
>>to grow wine grapes.  There was a major cold snap during the 17th century,
>>but things warmed up dramatically during the 18th century.  None of these
>>climate changes were caused by human activity, but an event during the 18th
>>century made it possible for humans to affect climate.  The guilty party was
>>Abraham Darby.
>>
>
>Okay, I'll bite.  Who was Abraham Darby and what was the event?

I am shocked -- SHOCKED -- to learn that Georgia Tech does not have a library!

Abraham Darby was an English ironmaster who was the first to smelt iron ore
with coke successfully.  This was in 1709.  Decimation of English forests had
caused the price of charcoal to rise, so Darby was looking into the possiblity
of using coal, but high sulfur content spoiled the iron.  The coking process
eliminated the sulfur.  The invention of the Newcomen steam engine three years
later created a huge demand for Darby's iron.  Eventually James Watt improved
upon the Newcomen design, and industrialization on a vast scale became
possible.  Meanwhile, the warmer climate was causing changes in English
agriculture that reduced the demand for farmhands while the demand for factory
workers was growing.

-- Herb Huston
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Personal to Spidey
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:18:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsd.1992Nov5.201806.24507
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T


Hey Josh Diamond, can you email me a copy of your .sig please?

Thanks a ton.  


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From: xanadu@t-bone.cs.unlv.edu (Thomas Wilson)
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Organization: UNLV
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 21:38:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.031914.22986@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA  
(Andreas  Tovornik) writes:
> In article 26539@grebyn.com, malak@grebyn.com (Michael Malak) writes:
> >In article <1992Nov7.064746.29830@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>  
mzank@nyx.cs.du.edu (matt zank) writes:
> >>Anyway does anyone know all, and
> >>I mean all the women have SO's? I do think it
> >>is that I am in my mid 20's, it is far i see
> >>if one goes past 23 or so you are out of luck.
> >>but is also of my bad luck, or is it the fact
> >>I am stuck in a very very bad area to meet
> >>women, which is Northwest Wisconsin. if that
> >>is so, where is a good area to move to, I have
> >>a feeling that the upper midwest sucks eggs.
> >
> >Here in the Washington, DC area, there is a shortage of men _and_ women
> >in their 20's.  That fact is not as well known as the one that their is
> >a huge surplus of single women in their 30's.  Any single man in his
> >30's would do well by moving to this area.  Especially if he's not a
> >lawyer.
> >
> >I understand from my friends who live there, and from my brief visits
> >there, that the West abounds with women in their 20's.
> >
> 
> Now you've done it. You've given away my carefully guarded secret! :+)
> 
> dreas

No kidding,  I'm bracing myself for the mindless hordes already.

Tom
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:55:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.thurlow.721079711
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov3.165358.22372@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:

>This is certainly true. Ithink the U.S. economy has far too much momentum
>for one person to be "completely responsible" for it. I do believe that
>Carter's policies were in part responsible for that particular trend, however.

Yeah, I'll easily agree with all of this.  Carter had some good ideas,
but I think he was a very poor delegator, and wound up in real trouble
when he tried to tackle everything himself.  If his implementation had
been better, he might have earned a second term.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Hints (Was Re: What is attractive)
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:59:45 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:

>One of the first things I tell all the
>women I date, if it looks like things are going to go somewhere, is my 
>inability to "catch hints".  I haven't had many chances to tell anyone that
>lately, :( but I never seemed to get the message through, I still stayed in
>trouble because I misunderstood something.

Do you expect all instances of misunderstanding to be automatically
forgiven before the fact, just because you say you can't catch hints? 
Or do your SOs refuse to forgive you even after you've offered a sincere
apology?

>I think Truth should be part of the feelings part, but that too can get you
>into much trouble. <example deleted>

Truth should be part of it, but there is a timing element involved.
Sometimes the only right answer to such a question is 'I love you both and
I wouldn't change a thing'--even though that is an exaggeration. 
However, if your SO presses you for another answer, then she should be 
prepared to accept what you say. (Although she isn't obligated to like it.)

Stef                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
stef@apple.com       It is the time you have wasted for your rose
                     that makes your rose so important.       Saint-Exupery
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: wall@hel4.brl.mil
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: elections
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:07:32 GMT
Organization: U.S. Army Human Engineering Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Nov4.231240.5270@sr.com> dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.170850.7520@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry
Billings) writes:
>>Hi Nancy,
>>Well, congratulations, you guys won.  I just hope you were right, and I'm 
>>wrong, and we don't find out that your Win is America's lose.
>
>Well, I'll jump in here for a second as I was pretty much campaigning as
>much as Nancy.  I say that simply because I completely agree with your
>second sentence.  It'= definately has a risk factor, but as of today,
>I still have a "good feeling" that Clinton could actually turn out to
>be a good President (as opposed to adequate or less).  Belive me, I
>hope I'm write on that one. None of us can afford for it to be otherwise.
>
>Hey, Clinton read his nice little prepared statement well today :-)
>
>Just think...  Clinton ends up doing a good job and gets re-elected. Then
>Gore runs and wins.  we could have Reagan/Bush in reverse. 12 (or 16)
>years of Democrats.  Oh well, what are you gonna do?

I'm going to predict that Clinton will have to do well as president or the
American poeple won't keep him.  In the past it has been assumed that a
presidents second term was his strongest due to lack of campaigning for the
next election. Therefore the people sent a mild message to Clinton that they
won't tolerate broken promises or incompetence.

I have one of Nance's feelings that if Clinton does poorly (I hope he doesn't,
BTW) then Perot or some other independent will win by a landslide.  The people
are just going to say were tired of traditional government.

1996 could be an interesting election.

Jeff
wall@hel4.brl.mil
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:14:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: grover.MARTINC.92Nov9131418
	<BxAC0z.Erq@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> <BxF0GL.Dun@access.digex.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: huston@access.digex.com's message of 8 Nov 92 20:48:19 GMT

In article <BxF0GL.Dun@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:

   In article <BxAC0z.Erq@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
   >huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
   >
   >>Nevertheless, the U.S. population uses a disproportionate share of
   >>the world's natural resources. 
   >
   >That's right; we also produce a disproportionate share of the
   >world's wealth.

   And in the process produce a disproportionate share of the world's
   pollution.

And in the process generate a disproportionate share of the world's food
supply. 

(And in the process encourage Ethiopians and Kenyans to breed to excess,
when they should just starve like God and Malthus intended....)

The problem with this game is that it can be played to excess.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
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From: dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:50:56 GMT
Reply-To: dks@srhqla.UUCP (Dave K. Sprow)
Organization: Silent Radio, Los Angeles

In article <1992Nov10.002512.22431@netcom.com> bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.215104.2308@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>>
>>On the other hand, guys who show up for the sole purpose of meeting hot
>>babes are spotted immediately.
>
><slapping forehead> Ouch! Is that the problem?
>
>
No.  It's more like *thank God* !!  :-)

a
 
David 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: That wacky electoral college
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:49:06 GMT

In article <96094@netnews.upenn.edu> crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
>
>OK, this bugs me in every presidential election.  Why do we still have the
>electoral college?  
>
>Most people who voted yesterday did not vote for Clinton.  With 44% of the
>vote, Clinton got more votes than each of the other candidates -- he beat
>Bush by about 5 points.  But in terms of electoral votes, he won by a
>"landslide."  
>
>No other office needs this "electoral college" system -- people win or
>lose by the popular vote, period.  Which only makes sense.  So why do we
>still use it for the presidential elections?

Because no amendment to the Constitution to abolish the Electoral College has
ever been adopted.  (That was an easy question.)

By the way, U.S. Senators have been elected by popular vote only since 1913.
It took the 17th Amendment to make that possible.

-- Herb Huston
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 21:25:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.022122.5197@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith) writes:
>So long as we are venturing bravely into questions oft reconsidered...
>  
>How important is money to you in considering an SO?  Particularly
>if you are considering significant financial differences? 
>  
>Scenerio 1:  You find out the person you are interested in makes
>    *quite* a bit more than you do.  Does it make a difference to you?

Not particularly; it was never an issue in the past, though I must admit
that it's been a while since this situation has occurred. 

>Scenerio 2:  You find out the person you are interested in makes
>    *quite* a bit less than you do.  Does it make a difference to you?

Nope; that's also never been an issue for me before. 

>Have you had someone break up with you over money issues?

I've never had anyone break up with me specifically over money issues,
but they have certainly been a factor on many occasions.  The fact that
I'm reasonably financially independent has certainly been something 
that many of my past romantic partners have been uncomfortable with,
inasmuch as it made it more difficult for them to feel "needed" instead
of "wanted," but there have always been other factors involved as well.
Usually, when it bothers someone, that person simply wouldn't consider
any sort of romantic involvement in the first place, and the problem is
avoided before it starts. 

>  Do you think
>that those of the opposite gender care more or less about money than
>your own affiliation?

I don't think it's particularly gender-specific, at least in the social
groups that I am familliar with--a good portion of the members of both
sexes have a problem with their partners being more financially 
successful than they are.  

Incidentally, I agree with Sandra--spending habits are probably far more
important than one's liquidity.  For me to be involved with someone who
wasn't at least a bit of a cheapskate (enough to make an effort to get
a reasonable amount of value for her money) would probably reduce the
comfort level just a little.

Trygve   (Who, apropos the original topic, cares much more about drive and
          enthusiasm than about number of certificates on the wall.)
From: ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Late at night
Date: 7 Nov 1992 06:39:07 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

	It's getting late and while I wait,
	My poor heart aches on,
	Why keep the brakes on?
	Let's misbehave!

Gosh, it's almost 11pm, I'm still in the office.  Why am I always the
one to turn on the burglar alarm?

	-- Anita --
	aka Scooter

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