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From: ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare KA1CV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CQ Utah and Vermont
Date: 11 Aug 92 18:37:20 EDT
Organization: American Radio Relay League

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, wn9nbt@courageous.ecn.purdue.edu (Dave Chasey) writes:

>Is anyone in Utah on SSB-HF ?    I still need Utah as the last state
>for Worked All States.     Is there someone in Utah that could make
>a sched with me to work on whatever band is appropriate to Indiana at
>the time ?    Please respond via direct email, since I don't get to
>this group often enough.

I have tried worked all states QRO, QRP, QRPP and ESP. In each case, Utah
was my last. :-).

>Also, I have worked a Vermont station that hasn't QSL'd for a couple
>of months now, after 2 SASE's.    A backup QSO there would also be
>appreciated.

I have found a good way to get QSLs. I send my QSL, and SASE, an already
filled out U-fillem QSL card (in case the station doesn't have QSL cards)
and a pen! (That is in case the station doesn't have a pen!) I have found
my QSLL rate to be about 90%. For the other 10%, I send a followup asking
them to return the SASE -- I need the stamp. That has never worked, but
it always makes me feel better. :-)

73 from ARRL HQ, Ed


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Ed Hare, KA1CV                  ehare@arrl.org
American Radio Relay League
225 Main St.
Newington, CT  06111            There is no limit to what you can 
(203) 666-1541 - voice          accomplish if you don't care who
ARRL Laboratory Supervisor      gets the credit. - Harry S Truman
RFI, xmtr and rcvr testing  
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From: julian@bongo.UUCP (Julian Macassey)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Kenwood TH-78's Alpha-Numeric Paging
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:33:43 GMT
Reply-To: julian@bongo.info.com (Julian Macassey)
Organization: The Hole in the Wall  Hollywood California U.S.A.

In article <34195@cbmvax.commodore.com> sterling@cbmvax.commodore.com (Rick Sterling - Test Eng) writes:
>
>The paging function uses standard DTMF ... if your repeater passes or can
>be programmed to temporarily pass DTMF then you could page through the
>repeater. A typical message could be sent to a TH28, TH48 or TH78 like
>this...

	It would be difficult to to prgramme a repeater to block DTMF.
The gimmick with touch tones is that they are "in band signalling". In
english that means they occupy the same bandwidth as regular
communications voice. Now, I will concede that the bandpass can be
tilted so badly that speech will sound like a Jethro Tull record. In
that case the DTMF level between the tones may be too great to be
decoded reliably. This disparity of levels between the two tones is
called twist. Bear in mind that if the band pass of your local repeater
is that buggered, comprehension of voice will be pretty low.

	In short, repeaters pass DTMF fine - so do telephone lines. I
once had a hilarious conversation with a British Telecom executive
about DTMF (MF in their parlance). He claimed they would not guarantee
to pass DTMF end to end. Since then of course, the Brits have adopted
DTMF enthusiastically. Haven't heard it on repeaters there though,
although I know of no regs against it.



-- 
Julian Macassey, julian@bongo.info.com  N6ARE@K6VE.#SOCAL.CA.USA.NA
742 1/2 North Hayworth Avenue Hollywood CA 90046-7142 voice (213) 653-4495
From: bob@kc2wz.bubble.org (Bob Billson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Neat-o new license (stock)
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:27:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Color Computer 3: Tandy's 'game' machine

tonyp@convex.com (honey bunny) says:

>The new license is done on wheat-yellow parchment-looking
>stock - almost like the background of a business check.
>
>It is printed on a laser-writer - excellent font.
>
>It is a two-fer: the top is the wallet-sized license - 
>complete with a picture of a scissor - so you know where
>to cut it out, and a 7x9 station copy. 

And the wallet size one actually fits in your wallet without sticking out a
little unlike the older forms!
-- 
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                                              |           kc2wz@amsat.org
  $nail:  21 Bates Way,  Westfield, NJ 07090  | uucp:     ...!uunet!kc2wz!bob
                  C code.  C code run.  Run code run...<please!>
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QST Content
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:48:45 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <1992Aug11.015304.3101@NCoast.ORG> allbery@ncoast.org (Brandon S. Allbery KF8NH) writes:
>
>Grammatically correct but semantically ambiguous (nevertheless, widely used
>and understood outside the ham populace):  "Well, I'm here!"  I use that one
>myself in preference to "destinated".  But then, I also scorn "This is ......
>for ID".

If I use "Well, I'm here!" on my repeater, some wise guy always says,
"No you're not. I'm here, and I don't see you. You must be *there*."

Gary KE4ZV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: palaukkanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: WANTED:Filters for Drake R4C
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 07:18:30 GMT

WANTED!

If someone have extra 500 Hz cw filter for Drake R4C and he/she is willing to
sell it I would be very interested. I am also looking for USB and LSB filters
for T4C (same filters are also in T4X and T4B). If you have these piece of
equipments please mail or phone me.


Pauli OH7BX


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From: seanp@undr.org (Sean Petty)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: PL-259 on 9913 -- Help!
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:42:32 GMT
Reply-To: Sean Petty <undr!seanp@gvls1.GVL.Unisys.COM>
Organization: The Underground - Pennsylvania


        I spent almost an hour tonight trying to work a UHF connector on
        the end of a piece of Belden 9913, with little success.. I got
        it on, but not with the amount of braid I would like to have had
        under the connector.  My greatest amount of success was achieved
        when I folded back only about 4 cm of braid, which is not what I
        would like to have under there.  Can someone provide tips,
        measurements, wisdom, as to what I am doing wrong.  I know, I
        know, it's a simple connector, How can you screw it up?  Well, I
        don't know, I'm having a heck of a time.

        Sean    N3LQN

---
Sean Petty                           undr!seanp@tredysvr.Tredydev.Unisys.COM
ICBMnet: 39'58'12"N 75'84'26"W       seanp@undr.org
From: jdelancy@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: [ANS] Frequencies and BBSs in the DC area.
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:51:38 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Try the following.  The file your looking for is called FOCKE.
It comes in a ZIP file.


     AMRAD - 7037341387 - 8N1/2400, Alex VA
Ol Timers  - 3016451049 - 8N1/2400, Waldorf MD

Probably take 24 hours to validate you on those BBS'

73's--jd/K1ZAT
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: bryanw@IASTATE.EDU (Bryan J Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ant. drill - thanks
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:03:23 GMT
Reply-To: bryanw@IASTATE.EDU (Bryan J Welch)
Organization: Iowa State University

Thanks for everyone for their advice on drilling holes to mount antennas.
I just got my licence a month ago, and now I'm convinced this is the 
friendliest group I've ever seen.  Anyway, thanks to all.

-Bryan

--
Bryan Welch	N0SFG
Center for Nondestructive Evaluation
Internet: bryanw@iastate.edu, bwelch@cnde.iastate.edu
From: furuta@cs.umd.edu (Richard Furuta)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QST, in my opinion...
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:40:35 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <l8lijvINN5lp@west.west.sun.com> flloyd@L1-A.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE]) writes:
|
|
|QST is first and foremost, a club newsletter.  Second, it's a 
[...]
|
|QST has, shall we say, a _special_ requirement for all advertisers.
|QST, unlike all other amateur radio related publications, requires that
|advertisers be willing to submit samples of their product to ARRL for
|evaluation as to fitness for service.  In other words, a company
|selling "Antenna Wax" is not likely to get advertising space.  Is this
|good?  Well, yes and no.  For one thing, the ARRL is suppressing free
|trade, freedom of the press and free speech by denying these
|advertisers.  Secondly, I resent having the ARRL act as my benevolent
|protector in shielding me from snake oil vendors.  I'd like to see all
|of the products on the market, not just the ones which have been proven
|"safe and effective" by independent juries.  I'm wise enough to spot
|incredible claims, and there is federal recourse in the event that
|mail order vendors become fraudulent.  Thank you, ARRL, but please allow
|me to make value judgements for myself.
[...]

Just a mild dissent to this comment.  I think that this screening is a
valuable service to ARRL members and as such is a *feature* and not a bug.
There are certainly valid complaints that one can make about the specific
implementation details of the policy, but I think that the intent is proper.
There are other ways for an advertiser to reach potential buyers (CQ and 73
to name two), indeed perhaps in a more cost-effective way than QST.

					--Rick
					  N3JGF
From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Subject: Re: QST, in my opinion...
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:20:55 GMT

ewing-martin@CS.YALE.EDU (Martin Ewing) writes:

>In article <pschleck.713810554@cwis> pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU) writes:
>>ewing-martin@CS.YALE.EDU (Martin Ewing) writes:
>>
>>>One thing that QST might do would be to have a "My turn" column for
>>>general opinion pieces, including hopefully some from Fred.
>>
>>>73, Martin, AA6E 
>>
>>They do, it's called the Op-Ed page and was just recently added.  Maybe
>>some E-mail to the league at 2155052@mcimail.com (with your US Mail
>>address) might send a writer's guide to a prospective author.
>>
>>73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU
>>
>>pschleck@unomaha.edu
>>

>Oops! You're right of course.  But the reason I overlooked those columns
>may be that their content is really predictable.  Usually they're in
>the spirit of "rotten operating", The Old Man, Wouff Hong (sp?), and
>all that.  A lively op-ed page would have some thoughtful critiques
>of ARRL, QST, demographics -- and an (at least somewhat) iconoclastic
>style.  E.g. the famous piece from Fred.  (Maybe W2NSD -10 db.)

>QST -- you're not very pithy!

>73, Martin

Well, perhaps I'm reaching here a bit, but it *IS* possible that they
are just going with what they can get.  Interesting articles may not be
forthcoming because no one is cranking them out.

Now if someone wrote a really good Op-Ed piece, and it got refused by
QST for inexplicable reasons, then we would have some basis for
complaint.

73, Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu
From: jkearman@arrl.org (Jim Kearman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QJR Antenna (Was: GAP Voyager DX IV: any experience?)
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:34:14 EDT
Organization: American Radio Relay League

I don't know how, but I guess I deleted part of my
posting on this subject. Ted Hart, W5QJR, built
small HF loops using copper pipe and a low-loss
split-stator variable of his own design. They are
described in the ARRL Antenna Book, 16th edition,
pages 5-11ff. 

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jdm@Cadence.COM (Joe Mastroianni)
Subject: Re: QST, in my opinion...
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:00:36 GMT

>Oops! You're right of course.  But the reason I overlooked those columns
>may be that their content is really predictable.  Usually they're in
>the spirit of "rotten operating", The Old Man, Wouff Hong (sp?), and
>all that.  A lively op-ed page would have some thoughtful critiques
>of ARRL, QST, demographics -- and an (at least somewhat) iconoclastic
>style.  E.g. the famous piece from Fred.  (Maybe W2NSD -10 db.)
>
>QST -- you're not very pithy!
>
>73, Martin
>
>
 I thought Mark Wilson was nuts when he asked me to submit one of my 
Internet babbles to OpEd. I did, and he printed it verbatum. 

 I must say, I got chicken toward the end. Mark actually pushed me to
be more "pithy," but I was worried members of my DX club would take
offense. I was a new member at the time, and I was afraid of making
enemies.

 In fact, one gentleman did approach me after reading my piece and asked,

 "You were writing about me, weren't you?"

 Of course, I wasn't. But the fact people saw a bit of themselves in what
I was saying made me feel good. I had actually reached a few people.

 Had I taken Mark's input, my piece would have been a lot stronger.
 
 My suggestion to you is to consider writing an OpEd piece yourself. Mark
is available here on the Internet, and the ARRL staff read here often.

 I think you would be surprised at what Mark is willing to print.

 Take the plunge. What have you got to lose?


 Joe


 Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with the ARRL other than being a member
             for the past two years and selling four pieces to QST (only
             one of which has actually been printed yet).

-- 
Joe Mastroianni          AKA: AA6YD  AA6YD @ N6LDL.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA
Cadence Design Systems
Santa Clara Ca.          "Up the airy mountain;down the rushy glen; we
jdm@cadence.com           daren't go a hunting; for fear of little men "  
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gws
Subject: KEPLERIAN BULLETIN 33  ARLK033
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 07:46:39 GMT


============================================================== 
| 	Automatic relayed from packet radio via              | 
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553                              |
==============================================================

ZCZC SK88
QST DE W1AW
KEPLERIAN BULLETIN 33  ARLK033
FROM ARRL HEADQUARTERS
NEWINGTON, CT  JULY 25, 1992
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS

THANKS TO NASA, AMSAT AND N3FKV FOR THE FOLLOWING KEPLERIAN DATA.

DECODE 2-LINE ELSETS WITH THE FOLLOWING KEY:
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From: jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Where/how to mount a dipole
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:47:33 EDT

pitonyak@cis.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Pitonyak) writes:
>I am limited to what I can do with an antenna, I purchased
>a cushcraft R7 and found out I can not put it up.  I may 
>be able to get away with putting up two ten foot poles on the roof
>and stringing a dipole between them.
>any comments on how this would work so close to the roof.

If your roof is all metal, you might have some unpleasant interactions --
or some pleasant interactions, it's impossible to tell without actually
trying it.  If your roof is not all metal, it will almost certainly work 
a darn sight better than the same dipole 10 feet above the ground.

Remember that if you have a sufficiently flexible Transmatch and a reasonably
low-loss feedline, the actual length of the dipole is unimportant (try to avoid
having the legs each be a half-wavelength on any band of interest, that will
be hard to match).
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: reisert@mast.enet.dec.com ("Jim Reisert, AD1C")
Subject: DXAC to study QSLing Practices
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 07:17:42 PDT
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Msg #1340  From: KC1AG  Date: 14-Aug 1220Z  Subj: DXAC Investigates QSLing

The ARRL Awards Committee has asked the DXAC to study and recommend an
addition to the DXCC rules that addresses abuses in QSLing practices by
certain individuals and DXpeditions. Input is being sought from the
DX community worldwide regarding the extent and details of abuses in
QSLing practices.
 
I would be happy to collect and forward comments, examples, and
most importantly, suggestions for appropriate rule changes. However,
the best route for your input is to write directly to the DXAC, c/o
ARRL, 225 Main Street, Newington, CT 06111.
 
73 Bill, KC1AG (NE Division DXAC representative)
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Where/how to mount a dipole
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:36:24 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

pitonyak@cis.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Pitonyak) writes:


>I am limited to what I can do with an antenna, I purchased
>a cushcraft R7 and found out I can not put it up.  I may 
>be able to get away with putting up two ten foot poles on the roof
>and stringing a dipole between them.

>any comments on how this would work so close to the roof.
>I am sort of at a loss on what to do.

>all help is appreciated, I am getting frustrated.

Set up a center-fed dipole, fed with ladder line instead of
coax.  This and an antenna tuner will work very well- better
than your R7 would have worked.  It should also work on
80m through 10m with an antenna tuner.

73 DE KK6MY


-- 

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Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: QST, in my opinion...
Date: 16 Aug 92 12:50:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: ke4zv.1992Aug16.125047.18673
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <9208141327.AA17284@ucsd.edu> William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM writes:
>>Fred Lloyd, AA7BQ...
>
>>habit of expiring, and taking a tree or two with them when they go.
>
>fred - we can grow more trees.  You'd have a more sound critique of the League
>and QST if you leave the enviro-wacko stuff out.  Magazines today use thinner 
>paper than ever and in general the amateur mags have less pages than they did 
>a decade ago.

That's a sad commentary in itself. The number of amateurs in the US
has grown by about 25% over the last decade, yet the number of pages
in the ham magazines have declined. I guess all those hams are playing
Nintendo on their new Japanese handhelds. :-(

Gary KE4ZV
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From: jbloom@arrl.org (Jon Bloom)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.amateur.packet
Subject: Re: data compression with packet:  legal?
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:32:05 EDT
Organization: American Radio Relay League

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <398@arrl.org> lhurder@arrl.org (Luck Hurder KY1T) writes:
>>
>>
>>From the ARRL's FCC Rulebook:
>>
>>"Above 50 MHz where data and RTTY emissions are permitted, 
>>unspecified digital codes may be used in communication between stations
>>licensed by the FCC.  Baudot, AMTOR and ASCII are specified in
>>the rules, so unspecified includes everything else..."
>
>Let's make sure we aren't talking apples and oranges here. Baudot and
>ASCII are bit encodings for *characters*, AMTOR uses the same encoding
>as Baudot.

Well, not really.  True, the 7-bit AMTOR code maps one-for-one to Baudot,
but it's a different code.  If you doubt it, try transmitting a SELCAL
using the 5-bit code and see how many stations link up to you!  (Granted,
a nit.)

>Meanwhile, *compression* is done at the *text* level, not
>the character level. For example, I could zip a file and then uuencode
>the zip file. Then the file I would transmit would still be ASCII at
>the character level, but totally different from the original at the
>text level.

Which goes to show the idiocy of the existing regulations.
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American Radio Relay League       |
225 Main St.                      |
Newington, CT 06111               |