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From: fran@Cadence.COM (Fran Peterson)
Subject: Re: Catalogs etc
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:19:14 GMT

In article <Nov.3.17.37.58.1992.26727@remus.rutgers.edu> mazurek@remus.rutgers.edu (mazurek) writes:
>
>I've found one catalog "The Fabric Center" which has fabrics up to 50%
>cheaper then my fabric store. Does anyone know of any other
>catalogs??? 
>


Hi Margo,

I don't have any information that would help you but I am interested
in the catalog you mention above "The Fabric Center".  Is it available
just in your area or can anyone get one?  If so, can you post the
address where to send for one?  Do they have all kinds of fabric or
just home decorating type fabrics?  I most interested in garment
fabrics especially at 50% cheaper than regular fabric stores.

Thanks and good luck with your sewing projects.

Fran Peterson

fran@cadence.com

F [:)

"I don't need a comedian to keep me in stitches"



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From: morrison@cup.hp.com (Bobbie_Morrison)
Subject: Re: Sewing on Velvet
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:53:22 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
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Nancy Hill (nancyh@vice.ICO.TEK.COM) wrote:
: I have a bridesmaid dress I need to make and the bodice is
: out of velvet.  Now, I've heard that sewing on velvet takes
: an expert and I've become properly intimidated.
: 
: Any experience out there?  Any hints?  Or am I being
: bamboozled?

Nancy,

I don't have much experience with it, but like you I'm getting ready to
make an evening party dress that has a velvet bodice.  I've done some
looking into it and a good reference for the details of sewing and ironing
velvet can be found in the Singer Sewing Library book on 
Specialty fabrics.  Here are a few things I read from there:

* There are different types of velvet, the easiest to work on being
cotton velvet.  It washes easiest, sews well, irons well etc..  THe others
are called "lustrous" velvets and must be dry cleaned and are generally
more delicate.

* You must be careful about matching naps (I guess that is obvious.)

* Special care must be taken in ironing velvet so that the nap is not
smashed.  (They mention that you can sometimes "fix" over-ironed cotton
velvet.)  The idea is that you never actually place the iron on the velvet,
but more just steam it and finger press.  It also mentions using a clapper
(wooden ironing tool).  The book says to either use a needle-board or
a scrap piece of the velvet under the piece that you are trying to iron.
A needle board holds the pile up while you iron the seam.  (I was all
set to get one of these but when I priced it at FabricLand they were
a whopping $39.00.  So I'm still considering.)

* They also mention that you should avoid handling the velvet until it
is dry and cool from ironing.

Hope this helps.  I would recommend getting the book.  (It covers more
than just velvets.)

--Bobbie Morrison
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From: lmhall@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com
Subject: sewing machine repair
Organization: IBM PSP, Palo Alto
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 17:55:34 GMT

Does anyone know a good place in San Jose (preferably near Almaden
Valley) to get a Singer sewing machine repaired?  I've been to "A Vacuum
and Sewing Hospital" at Union and Bascom before but they didn't enthuse
me (although their other location on El Camino in Mt View was OK).
Any suggestions?

Also, does anyone know of a place to get an old treadle machine
repaired?  I bought an old Bruce machine at a house auction in South
Dakota several years back, and I'd like to get it working.

Thanks!
   Laura
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From: aydt@cs.uiuc.edu (Ruth Aydt)
Subject: bozo alarm & crafts
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:15:48 GMT

I greatly admire people talented enough to create 
drawings/designs/etc. without the help of machines.  Unfortunately, 
I also lack the artistic ability to accomplish those drawings myself --
if I drew a picture of a house rather than using a computer to 
generate the drawing from a photo, the hand-drawn version would NOT
be better!  And, I'd get frustrated in the procesa and probably give up.

So, maybe I can use a computer to generate the cross-stitch pattern to
work from and enjoy the creativity involved in selecting colors, textures,
etc. to enhance that pattern.  Even if I don't enhance it, I can
benefit from the relaxing act of stitching.  The end result WILL NOT be
of the same artistic quality as that of a truly gifted artistic person,
but I can enjoy the activity and come up with something I could not
have produced without the aid of a machine.

So, I envy my artistic friend and recognize my own limitations.  Just
because she can design a cross-stitch free-hand and have it come out beautiful
doesn't mean I can!

	Ruth Aydt
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From: vicky@vicky.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Vicky Bush)
Subject: Need sewing machine advice
Reply-To: vicky@vicky.b23b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:44:44 GMT

I am looking for advice on sewing machines. My sewing skills are beginning
to intermediate level currently. I have experience with two Singer models:
My Mom's which is about 30 years old and hasn't had any major problems and
mine which was bought used and has given me nothing but problems. My Mom's
is older but all metal while mine has a lot of plastic. When I took mine
to the repair shop, the guy suggested that I just trade it and not even 
bother trying to fix it given the history of that particular model.

I want to buy a new machine that will be dependable for many years to come.
I want the basic features with maybe a few extras that I may use as my 
skills improve and time allows. I hope not to spend more than $500-$600.

Can anyone suggest brands, models, features, etc that I should definitely
consider or avoid? Are sewing machines rated in any kind of consumer or 
sewing magazine? I want to do my homework and learn as much as I can before
making my purchase. Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Vicky
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From: sallyh@StarConn.com (Sally Holmes)
Subject: Re: What makes a Bozo alarm go off
Organization: Starnet-Public Access UNIX--Los Altos, CA  415-949-3133
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 04:42:21 GMT

motto@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mary.rita.otto) writes:

>Would sewing still be the same rewarding experience for you if you
>selected a "clip-art" picture of the garment, fed in your measurements,
>dropped the fabric and thread and notions into a hopper, pressed a button
>and in a while the program would laser cut all the pieces and then
>precision stitch them together into a completed garment?  For me, all
>enjoyment would be lost.  For me, the joy is in the designing and the
>creating.

Well, there would still be some opportunity for creativity in selecting
fabric, trim etc... For some people, that's the closest they'd ever get
to having something custom-made. Other people are lucky enough to have
the time and skill to devote to producing a more hand-made, individual
item. 

Because most of us have constraints on our time, we have to make
compromises. Like Grace, I buy cloth instead of weaving it and use a
sewing machine and serger instead of hand sewing. I don't think it does
anyone any good to sneer at people who make different choices.

Sally
From: mcadoo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lois A McAdoo)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Quilting frame
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:14:00 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University


A friend of mine has taken up quilting.  Does anyone know where to buy
a rectangular quilting frame?  I think I saw one in a catalog about a
year ago, but I can't find the reference now.  I'd appreciate your help.

				Lois McAdoo

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From: whitaker@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: finishing edges
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:17:00 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

Does anybody know of a good way of finishing edges without an overlocker?
(I think this is the same as a serger).
I would like to make a shirt as a gift, but would be embarrassed if the
finishing was as bad as mine usually is: I just zigzag the edges and they
tend to fray. I don't have access to an overlocker/serger,

Thanks,
Beth
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: spihlgre@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sandra K. Pihlgren)
Subject: Re: Quilt Block Exchange
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 01:33:50 GMT


Hi my name is Sandy and I am an amateur quilter.  I love it but find
my time limited.  I would love a quilt block exchange.  Maybe either
hand or machine pieced.  Maybe a 12" finished block so that would be
12 1/2" of course with seam allowances included.  

The Omaha quilters guild meets the 2nd tuesday of the month at 7. if
anyone is interested call me 402-3456785

Maybe we could start a Christmas theme using country reds and greens


Enjoy,      Sandy (posey)
 
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: MAHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: o-oo-zo and I'm okay..
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 12:56:23 EST

If I read one more posting about bozos, I'm going to scream...
Who -I- consider a real bozo is someone who's not only rude enough
to assume other people are jerks, but assumes that all the rest
of the group wants to hear them say so.
Please, people, please, the proper forum for all those inconsiderate
things that go through your brain is direct E-MAIL.  At least the
recipient can toss it out easier...
 
Marie-Christine
mahe-marie-christine@yale.edu
 
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From: dorothy@cvedc.prime.com (Dorothy Robinson)
Subject: Re: Embroidered letters
Organization: Computervision R&D, Beaverton OR
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:24:38 GMT

mike@media-lab.mit.edu (Michael Hawley) writes:

>but I haven't been able to track down a service that will accept
>my artwork -- my camera-ready prints or, this being the 90's,
>my PostScript -- and generate output.

This may not help you directly, but Pfaff does manufacture a scanner
that interfaces to their $2000 sewing machine.  Someone correct me if I'm
wrong here - I saw the beast when I was shopping for my new machine, but
since it was WAY over my price range I sort of averted my eyes!
The scanner is about 6x8" or so, and as far as I could tell it programs
the machine to duplicate the pattern that it scans from your ink design.
I don't know what the resolution is, but it didn't look too bad.

It occurred to me to wonder if they would let someone use the machine
for a fee, like some computer shops do with their scanners and laser
printers, but I never called to find out, not having a project in mind.
If you're game, though, you could call some sewing-machine shops that
handle Pfaff and ask.

===========================================================================
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     whose opinions are not those of...
Computervision             
14952 NW Greenbrier Parkway, Beaverton, Oregon 97006   Phone (503)690-7861
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From: dmd@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (debra.m.dicke)
Subject: Re: Holiday Gift Projects
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:09:54 GMT

Bathrobes made out of nice fat towels (see RD sewing book)
Threads had a neet backpack pattern this month made from scraps
Beaded earrings (have you seen the prices at craft fairs !!!!)
Framed quilt squares
Picture frames
Puppets
Pillows (letters to spell names, made out of T-shirts, quilted ...)
Wild vests

Naturally, I'm doing **all** of these this year.....

Debra
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Sewing on Velvet
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:33:07 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <10683@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>, nancyh@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Nancy Hill) writes:
> I have a bridesmaid dress I need to make and the bodice is
> out of velvet.  Now, I've heard that sewing on velvet takes
> an expert and I've become properly intimidated.

I'm not much of a seamstress-- my projects run more to duffel bags and
tents than fine clothes-- but once, in my teenage years, I got a wild hair
and bought some *wonderful-looking* rayon velvet on sale, then took
it to my sewing guru, Dorothy.  (Dorothy makes her own patterns, tailors
her husband's suits, etc., etc.)

Dorothy then gave me one of her marvelous low key sermons on biting
off more than one could chew, and helped me find an appropriate (i.e.,
very simple) pattern.  She also told me DON'T IRON IT!!!, and next
time buy cotton velvet... it's easier to work with.

The jacket turned out wonderfully, thanks to being basted together
before sewing, and all seams were pressed by holding them *over*
a steam iron that was sputtering upside down between two bricks.

My best advice is take a deep breath, cut your velvet from a muslin
pattern you've already adjusted, and DON'T IRON IT!!!  Bet it'll
be gorgeous!!

Kay
From: HF.MMX@forsythe.stanford.edu (Marilee Marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Holiday dresses
Date: 10 Nov 1992 12:38:20 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

I think your idea of making a bodice with detachable skirts is
great.  I think what I'd do is construct the bodice like a bodysuit.
Construct the bodice to a panty-like garmet (with snap crotch), so
it will stay down.  Possibly use some Velcro at the waist to
securely fasten the skirt waistband?

Keep us posted on how it works out.
From: jael@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jael)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Airplane quilt
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:36:18 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


There's a thin paperback book called *Patchwork Patterns* that has several
nice airplane designs, as well as lots of other nice pictures.  I don't know
the author's name, but I've seen copies in the libary fairly frequently.

The book is a collection of drawings of patchwork pictures.  The same author
has another book called either *A Constellation of Quilts* or *A Constellation
for Quilters,* which is exclusively patchwork stars.  I highly recommend both
for anyone trying to get design ideas - they can be a lot of fun!

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From: guido@blink.att.com (Guido Bertocci)
Subject: Re: Sewing machine recommendatiosn
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:25:58 GMT

I am looking for recommendations for quality sewing machines.
The primary candidate at this time is the Bernina 1530.  Any pros or
cons would be appreciated as well as alternate recommendations.

If anyone has any ideas on what a good price would be as well
as either mail order places or stores in New Jersey.  Thanks.
From: nancyh@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Nancy Hill)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Sewing on Velvet - Holiday Dresses
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:37:44 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

First off I'd like to say a big 'THANKS!' to all of you for
sharing your knowledge!  I really appreciate it!  We're having
our preliminary fitting on Saturday - so, I'll be diving into
the velvet on Saturday evening ... I'm kind of excited!

I'll be posting a summary of all responses and add my own - from
my own soon-to-be vast hoard of knowledge.  Again, Thanks!

In a second note to Charleen and your dress ... it sounds darn cute.
But, have you thought of detachable flouncy lace around the sleeves and
hem - kind of like a peplum.  My sister, made a top similar to what you
are planning and this is what she did -- it looked really nice.  Also,
if you are making a point - I would recommend boning - to keep it a 
point - but you probably already thought of that.

Thank all!

nancyh
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From: dillon@world.std.com (John T Dillon)
Subject: I'm a Bo-oo-zo and I'm okay..
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:18:20 GMT


I'm a Bo-oo-zo and I'm okay,
I sew all night and I sleep all day.
(Enough of that...)

Hmmm,  Sounds as if we have an overly sensitive Bozo alarm here.

Is some one a Bozo simply because they have a project that they would like
to finish within a short period of time and with professional results.

Is it wrong to attempt to utilize a machine or a computer to assist in this
task?  

The person asking for the information on postscript capabilities for 
embroidering on jackets could have included more info on the task at hand,
but did not come off as a bozo.  Indeed the task is ideally suited for 
automation, with several standard fonts already programmed into the 
embroidering machines at ALL major jacket manufacturers.

How many hand embroiderers would want to do 20-30 near identical satin stitched
emblems? (The size of the average frat or team.)  How many would like to, or 
even could do them within a one week period for about $10 apiece?  I don't 
think we will find many volunteers...

Is it wrong to attempt to adapt computers to embroidery, sewing or any other
task?  No.  Should someone be judged as a bozo automatically because they 
trying to do so?  Probably not.  After all using computers to form a sewing
circle could be viewed as making all of us bozos.  Look at all the nuances
and ineffable human characteristics that are lost using a computer... 

Yes there are tasks that a person can do far better than a machine, but
just because some one is attempting to find out about a machine to do a
job, it does not automatically mean they are bozos.  That attitude died
at the beginning of the industrial revolution.


                                       John Dillon
                                       Computer Engineer and crazed hand sewer.

I just spent 160 hours hand sewing a Landsknecht outfit I could have finished
in 30 on my machine.  Now I am doing 40+ buttonholes by hand...   All this
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: holiday gift projects
From: thompson@gumby.mgi.com
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:43:06 CST
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

Re: holiday gift ideas

For the kids:

Get the patterns for the BIG Raggedy Ann and Andy dolls, most of the fabrics
can be found in the remanants (sp) bins at the fabric store. And the kids 
love to get these dolls the same size as them!

Really bizarre:  Make an entirely white Raggedy Ann doll - I made this for
my Sister-in-law.  She wanted it all white to go in her living room, 
everyone loves it and thinks its the coolest thing. It gives me the creeps.

maggie

(too lazy to use the dictionary)
From: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: On Bobo Alarms...
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:11:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 

Following up on the continuing discussion of "bozo alarms" and the impact
of technology...

Out here in Carmel Valley is an amazing craftsman.  He is a wood carver,
but younger than most (when he goes to wood carver meetings, everyone
wants to know where his father is).  He appears to be in his early 30's.

His craftmanship is astonishing, the products are incredible (carved
wood doors of unbelievable intricacy), but I guess that a number of the
posters here would consider him a "bozo".  He uses power tools of every
sort as he considers the effort of carving off what is not supposed to
be in the final piece "an inconvenience", best done quickly and without
much effort.

This gentleman is viewed with skepticism by other wood carvers, who seem
to treat their craft as a hobby, because he runs it like a business.  He
is efficient becauses he selects (or designs) tools to maximize his work
efficiency, leaving him time to be creative.

In light of this, I believe that a great many people involved in crafts
are really into a hobby rather than a business and these people disdain
the efforts of those who use technology to "get on with it".  Do we then
divide the world into "bozos" and "luddites"?

The important issue is that each person approaching a craft does so for
their own reasons and berating them for having a different criteria for
success is ludicrous, myopic and more than a little silly.  If someone
wants to program a computerized chainsaw lathe to carve totem poles, so
be it...  I believe that they have every right to ask for information on
improving their craft as the person who wants to hand-smock a one-of-a-kind
wedding dress.  Of course, they will have more success if they ask in the
right conference...

Regards, Mikey (michael.hagerty@nitelog.com)

 * JABBER v1.3B1 #B042 * Talk is cheap, until you hire a lawyer.
From: liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Holiday Gift Projects
Date: 9 Nov 1992 18:25:27 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

My family made an agreement to make all our gifts this year in an attempt
to save money.  Soooooo, I am soliciting great ideas.  I already have some,
but I know this group will have many, many more to consider.  There is no
theme other than thoughtful gifts that are fun to make.

The best part about this gift idea is that my mother and my best friend
are having me over for gift making weekends.  It's going to be such fun
to have a couple of relaxing, creative weekends.  

Here is an idea to get the creative juices flowing:

Earring holders:  Make a frame around plastic needlepoint canvas.  Decorate
the canvas and or the frames in order to make it more personal.  The
earrings hang from the canvas.  I plan to include a pair of handmade
earrings with this gift (so they'll know what the heck it is! :)


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