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From: schmidtc@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Christian "Squeeze me? Bacon Powder?" von Schmidt-Pauli)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: Multi-film sub characters
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:16:46 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

rjtapp@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Riston Tapp) writes:

>In article <psmith.722195571@cunews> psmith@alfred.carleton.ca (Peter Smith) writes:
>>I always thought it added something to the films when there were
>>appearences by actors from previous bond films.  Aside from mainstays
>>like M, Q, Blofeld and Moneypenny, I got a kick out of seeing Jaws
>>(aka Richard kiel) keep showing up.  And I got a real laugh in "Man
>>With the Golden Gun" when the Southern U.S. sherrif from "Live and Let
>>Die" happened to be on vacation in Japan.
>>
>>Were there other such return appearences by actors?  One that rings a
>>bell although I can't put my finger on it is Felix from the last
>>Dalton film:  I only remember seeing him once before (and I can't
>>remember which film) but they played him up to be a real mainstay in
>>the last film.  Did he appear in many?

>He also played Felix in 'Live and Let Die'

There was also a female actress who appeared in two films.  I cannot
remember her name, but she was the main female character in Octopussy,
and she also appeared in ( I believe ) The Man with the Golden Gun, as
Scaramanga's mistress who wants Bond to kill Scaramanga, but ends up
getting killed herself.  ( Movie plot ).
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From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: Multi-film sub characters
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:47:18 GMT
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In article <psmith.722195571@cunews> psmith@alfred.carleton.ca (Peter Smith) writes:
>Were there other such return appearences by actors?  One that rings a
>bell although I can't put my finger on it is Felix from the last
>Dalton film:  I only remember seeing him once before (and I can't
>remember which film) but they played him up to be a real mainstay in
>the last film.  Did he appear in many?

Felix Leiter is Bond's CIA contact and appeared in several of the books.
Let's see...he was in the movies `Dr. No', `Goldfinger',  `Thunderball',
`Diamonds Are Forever', `Live and Let Die', `Never Say Never Again',
`The Living Daylights', and `Licence to Kill,' although almost always
played by different actors.  David Heddison played him in both `Live and
Let Die' and `Licence to Kill.'  Felix Leiter could usually be relied upon
to show up whenever the locale was in or near the USA (exceptions:
`Moonraker' and `A View to a Kill').

One character that has recurred many times in the movies (but never in the
books, I think) is General Gogol, first of the KGB and then later of
the Soviet Foreign Service.  It is interesting that he is sometimes an
ally, sometimes an adversary, and sometimes merely a bystander.  Starting
with `The Spy Who Loved Me,' he appeared in every film up until `License to
Kill.'  The same actor, Walter Gotell, appeared in `From Russia with Love',
but I don't think one can argue well that the character is connected with
General Gogol.

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From: GRANTH@brownvm.brown.edu (Grant Hogarth)
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Subject: Re: New movie in works?
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:51:13 EST
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In article <1992Nov21.204732.29485@nevada.edu>, clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
said:
>Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:47:32 GMT
>
>GRANTH@brownvm.brown.edu (Grant Hogarth) writes:
>>And villans? Hmm... Anthony Perkins and Robert Duvall, anyone?
>
>Anthony Perkins is dead.
>
Errrr... <blush> maybe Anthony Hopkins???
                               ^^^^^^^
Grant.
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:52:45 EST
From: Brian Panulla, MooCow <BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: Multi-film sub characters

Another character that appeared twice was Sylvia Trench, who played Chemin
de Fer with Bond in Dr. No, and shared a picnic lunch with him in From Russia
with Love.
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From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: New movie in works?
Organization: UCCSN-SCS
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:47:32 GMT

GRANTH@brownvm.brown.edu (Grant Hogarth) writes:
>And villans? Hmm... Anthony Perkins and Robert Duvall, anyone?

Anthony Perkins is dead.

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From: Martin A Laster <mlaster@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Write a short story
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:13:59 GMT


This is for all you creative story writers.  Let's see how well you can write.

If you could create a character for you to be for only one night at your
favorite night club, what would you think would happen that night at that
club.  Explain in detail the following;
 
	1) your character (i.e. employee, user)
	2) your night at the club (i.e. things you did, people you met)
  
Please keep it as realistic as possible, but also creative as possible.
This is for a study that I am doing for a night club owner who is planning
to open a new club.

Send all replies to this post to vlusane@magnusug.acs.ohio-state.edu

Have Fun !!!!!!!!!

Thank you


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From: giles@news.dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Giles Nelson)
Subject: Re: New movie in works?
Originator: giles@slate
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:34:46 GMT


> Heard on a talk show that Sean Connery is looking to do the
> next Bond film for between 8 and 12 million.  Wouldn't that be great!?!

No it wouldn't. Connery is far to old for the role. He looked rather ridiculous
in Never Say Never Again.
Dalton, or some new blood is needed.
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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Gardner's books
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:13:18 GMT


>In article <98127@netnews.upenn.edu>, yee@mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee) writes:
>> WRT to the thread about the Gardner books, I think I can safely offer an
>> opinion.  With the exception of the last one which came out a month or two
>> ago, I have read them all and one first editions of them.  I have found the
>> plots to be absolutely terrible.  In the beginning, Gardner tried to put in
>> Fleming-like touches with respect to the careful documentation of the exact
>> equipment he used but Gardner is unable to write these things without it
>> coming out like a laundry list.
>Lord, yes.  Every time I read one of those books, I feel like Gardener has this
>"Bond the connoisseur who also happens to be a secret agent in his free time"
>attitude.  All I notice in the books is the fine quality of clothes that he 
>wears, or the champagne that he drinks, or the food that he eats, etc. ad 
>nauseum.  I have given up on Gardener.  I just read them to see what obscene
>deus ex machina he pulls off this time.  What he does to the books is a crime.
>

If you read Moonraker, notice Bond's actual income? He does not earn that much
money at all. I don't remember offhand now, but I think all his expenses is
was his Bentley and his apartment and I think his Rolex. That's about it. He
can't afford much else. However, when he's on assignment, that's when he
splurges because the British government picked up the tab. So I think Bond
got his connoisseurship through using unnecessary UK funds constantly. But
hey, this guy saved the UK (physically and politically) many times, killed
off a bunch of enemy spies, killed a world famous assassin as well as an
international terrorist, and if you count Gardner's stuff, he rescued the
former PM and several world leaders from assassination. I think Bond deserves
every bit he leeches off the government, and I think the government lets him
do that because he did those things. 

I think Gardner should have stuck to his Liquidator series. Much much better
than his Bond series, as far as I've read (unfortunately, just the first 
three). Check it out from your local library. I believe it's otherwise out of
print.

philip
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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: Never Say Never Again
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:06:32 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Distribution: alt
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Nov16.084921.29770@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> paige@csri.toronto.edu (The Woodsman) writes:
>  I kind of liked NSNA. While it isn't up there among my all-time favourite
> Bond films (like From Russia With Love, or Octopussy), it's a mindless
> piece of fluff. Plus, it has Rowan Atkinson as "Nigel Small-Faucet". For
> my money, any movie that has a character with a name like that and has
> Edward Fox playing M is worth a chuckle.
>
kBut keep in mind that the M that Kevin McClory has in the movie is not Admiral
Sir Miles Messervy that Eon productions uses but his successor, as Never Say
Never's M says early on in the movie. So it's not so ridiculous in the sense
that it goes along with the plot. I prefer the original Thunderball myself,
though NSNA is in my opinion still a good movie.

philip
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From: yee@mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: Gardner's books
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:35:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

WRT to the thread about the Gardner books, I think I can safely offer an
opinion.  With the exception of the last one which came out a month or two
ago, I have read them all and one first editions of them.  I have found the
plots to be absolutely terrible.  In the beginning, Gardner tried to put in
Fleming-like touches with respect to the careful documentation of the exact
equipment he used but Gardner is unable to write these things without it
coming out like a laundry list.

Yes, the plots were a bit unlikely, but so were some of Fleming's.  Can we
seriously believe that the British government would finance the building of
a missile and not notice that it was supposed to be used to bomb London?
[This is in Moonraker.]

The writing of Gardner's books, however, is rather poor.  He simply is not
as good a writer as Fleming.  I have forced myself to get through all but
one Gardner novel.  They were not a pleasure to read.  I am not a big fan
of all the plot twists that Gardner is so fond of.

Over all, I would say that Gardner's books are a travesty.

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From: haro@triton.unm.edu (..KANEDA..)
Subject: Re: New movie in works?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 05:39:42 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I think Mel or Pierce would make a good James Bond.
A cool James Bond movie would be something like Bond and some American CIA guy
like Steven Segal, team up to take on Specter.
Hey, I'd pay to see that!

RICK

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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: New movie in works?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:44:20 GMT

(Deleted discussion about rumours that Timothy Dalton may be replaced as James
Bond)

|> Certainly Mel Gibson is OUT. He would look ridiculous,

Agreed!


|> I haven't actually heard of Pierce Brosnan, what films has he been in?

He played the terrorist in a spy thriller named something like "The Fourth
Protocol" with Michael Caine. It came out around 1983. However, Pierce Brosnan is
mostly famous for playing in an American television show called "Remington
Steele." He's British. He looks like Bond. He talks like Bond. But he's just so
WIMPY!

|> 
|> What is required I think is a fairly unknown, preferably British, actor to take
|> the role, just as Connery, Moore and Dalton were.

Of these three, only Connery was fairly unknown when he was chosen for the part.
But he was hand-picked by Ian Fleming. Roger Moore was already famous as The
Saint. Timothy Dalton had been on the hoyty-toyty Shakespeare scene for years.
You can check a young Dalton out in "The Lion in Winter" and in "Mary, Queen of
Scots." The former movie is really hilarious because you get to see Dalton and a
young Anthony Hopkins talk about having sex with each other.
From: yee@mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: A book........
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:21:00 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <720801537.4296.0@sappho.weh.andrew.cmu.edu>, msb0+@andrew.cmu.edu (Maulik Harish Shah) writes:
|> 
|> Hi!
|> 	I fancy myself a james bond enthusiast. When I was in England a couple
|> of years ago I found a book called the Unauthorized Biography of James Bond 
|> (the name of the author escapes me at the moment). It was an EXTREMELY well 
|> done book (IMHO) and I 
|> was wondering if anybody else had read it/heard of it, and how well it 
|> fits in with know James Bond "Facts".
|> 

With respect to the facts as is known in the Ian Fleming novels, it fits in
very well.  I was unable to note any anomalies.


BTW, the author was John Pearson.

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Subject: Re: New movie in works?
From: ericd@gaudi.CSUFresno.EDU (Eric Douglas)
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:36:27 PST
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In article <By121D.HKx@math.uwaterloo.ca> rjtapp@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Riston Tapp) writes:
>In article <s8lq+zp@lynx.unm.edu> haro@triton.unm.edu (..KANEDA..) writes:
>>I think Mel or Pierce would make a good James Bond.
>>A cool James Bond movie would be something like Bond and some American CIA guy
>>like Steven Segal, team up to take on Specter.
>>Hey, I'd pay to see that!
>>
>>RICK
>>
>
>No, no, no, no, NO! For the love of God, NO!
>
>Riston

I second that! NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! If you've any
mercy, NO!. There is definetely a place for Segal and Gibson, but under
this context, it IS NOT A JAMES BOND movie.

--eric
From: cse0071@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: New Bond Film???
Date: 15 Nov 92 15:38:25 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

	Has anyone heard anything of if there will be another Bond movie,
seems it's been a few years since the last one.  If there is any word
  when, who, and what will it be called????
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From: rankin@ms.uky.edu (David W. Rankin Jr.)
Subject: Re: Multi-film sub characters
    <1992Nov23.141147.3620@b8.b8.ingr.com> <kf4DIFm00aw=4cvkU2@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:46:00 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <kf4DIFm00aw=4cvkU2@andrew.cmu.edu> Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>And what's more...Felix seems to change appearance in different
>movies...
>
>Somtimes he looks tall and well built and somtimes he looks mousey....
He even managed to change races between two movies (from white to black
and back to white... I think Felix would have earned the CIA's awards for
most versitile disguise master. ;)

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From: ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu (Chad Adam)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Subject: Re: New movie in works?
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:09:14 GMT
	<1eoqlfINNsmr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>No, Sean Connery was never the Saint. Ian Oglivy played the Saint in
>the short-lived series, The Return of The Saint. Don't know what Chad
>was thinking of! :)

Well, I stand corrected....The Saint was a long time ago for me...cool
show though...thanks!
	-Chad
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:25:35 -0500 
From: Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: New movie in works?
	<1992Nov22.163446.14687@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>

Well, I do agree that Connery is getting old but he would be better
than Gibson or Segal by a long shot.....personally tho, i aggree with
you... I want Dalton to do another...I think he did a great job on the
last 2 films..
	-Chad
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.james-bond
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:44:34 -0500 
From: Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: General Gogol

Did he make an appearance in VTAK???
I don't remember...oh well, guess what I have to rent over
the weekend.

		-Chad


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From: boenne@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert C. Boenne)
Subject: Re: New movie in works?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:09:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.154420.26140@b8.b8.ingr.com> anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
#(Deleted discussion about rumours that Timothy Dalton may be replaced as James
#Bond)
#
#
#|> I haven't actually heard of Pierce Brosnan, what films has he been in?
#
#He played the terrorist in a spy thriller named something like "The Fourth
#Protocol" with Michael Caine. It came out around 1983. However, Pierce Brosnan is
#mostly famous for playing in an American television show called "Remington
#Steele." He's British. He looks like Bond. He talks like Bond. But he's just so
#WIMPY!

You can also find him in one of the lead roles in "The Lawnmower Man".

#You can check a young Dalton out in "The Lion in Winter" and in "Mary, Queen of
#Scots." The former movie is really hilarious because you get to see Dalton and a
#young Anthony Hopkins talk about having sex with each other.

He also played a prince in the movie "Flash Gordon"  (or was it just Flash? hmm)


	Robert

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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: New movie in works?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:38:49 GMT

Reading Darryl's FAQ I noticed it's been three long years since a Bond movie has
come out. Does anyone know if they're working on another one?

I keep hearing rumors that Dalton quit the series and both Mel Gibson and Pierce
Brosnan were being considered for the role. God, I hope not. I think Dalton's the
only choice for Bond since Connery went bald and grey.

Any news would be appreciated.

Anthony
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From: rjtapp@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Riston Tapp)
Subject: Re: New movie in works?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:33:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.154420.26140@b8.b8.ingr.com> anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
>
>|> 
>|> What is required I think is a fairly unknown, preferably British, actor to take
>|> the role, just as Connery, Moore and Dalton were.
>
>Of these three, only Connery was fairly unknown when he was chosen for the part.
>But he was hand-picked by Ian Fleming. Roger Moore was already famous as The
>Saint. Timothy Dalton had been on the hoyty-toyty Shakespeare scene for years.
>You can check a young Dalton out in "The Lion in Winter" and in "Mary, Queen of
>Scots." The former movie is really hilarious because you get to see Dalton and a
>young Anthony Hopkins talk about having sex with each other.

No. Fleming wanted someone like David Niven to be Bond, and was dissapointed
(at least at first) with the choosing of Connery.

Riston
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 18:30:14 EST
From: Ryan R Robbins <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
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Subject: Re: Multi-film sub characters
 <kf4DIFm00aw=4cvkU2@andrew.cmu.edu> <1992Nov23.104600.9493@ms.uky.edu>
 <1992Nov23.162143.653@news.columbia.edu>

"Licence to Kill" is NOT part of the novel series. It has nothing
to do with the novels. It is strictly an adaptation of the movie.
It's too bad Cubby Broccoli(sp?) never got Leiter's artificial
limb situation right. Leiter was supposed to have lost his arm
a long time ago, to Mr Big, in Live and Let Die.

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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:15:50 -0500 
From: Chad Adam <ca25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: New movie in works?
	<By1279.Hzs@math.uwaterloo.ca>

>Roger Moore was already famous as The Saint.

Didn't Sean Connery also play the Saint?  I think he did after Moore
became James Bond for a While.

I don't really know who would be the best Bond tho.  My vote is for
Dalton..he just seems to look like the part....as for Brosnen and
Gibson, well I don't think they would be as impressive.

As for previous Dalton movies....check him out as Prince Baron in
Flash Gordon.  Maybe not the most successful movie, but fun to watch
once in a while.

Anyone know if they have thought of any working plots for the next
James Bond?

	-Chad
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