HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: s.telford@ed.ac.uk (Scott Telford)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Problem with 0.99.2 msdos FS?
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:36:46 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh Parallel Computing Centre, University of Edinburgh, UK.

I've come across what looks to me like a bug, possibly in the msdos
FS. My setup is a 386SX-20 with an IDE disk and a HP7959S (Imprimis
97536) external SCSI disk using an Adaptec 1540B. I run Linux 0.99.2
on the SCSI disk, which also has a 20Mb DOS partition.

After reformatting the SCSI disk last week I untar'd the whole lot
from backup tape (btw, Archive Viper 2150S's seem to work OK with the
generic SCSI tape driver!) including the DOS partition, which I have
mounted as /dos. However, the DOS partition was mangled after I
restored it. I've tried cp-ing between extfs and msdos fs's and tar
xvf-ing from both (and tape), and the same things happen.

What seems to be happening is random files and subdirectories get
extra chunks (in the case of files, blocks of 248 0x00 or 0xff bytes,
and the case of directories, about the same amount of garbage)
inserted (ie, not overwritten) into them in random places (frequently
at the beginning though). It may be some sort of race condition -
single small files seem OK, but untarring lots of directories and
small files or copying one big one isn't.

Running the 0.98.1 kernel, I don't get any problems. I haven't been
able to reproduce it on my IDE disk, but I haven't tried too hard
because I don't have any spare partitions to trash 8^)

Has anybody experienced this before or is it just me? - I haven't seen
anything like it reported on c.o.l recently and the msdos fs alpha 9
release notes didn't mention major bugfixes which sounded relevant to
this.

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University of Edinburgh, Mayfield Rd, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK. (+44 31 650 5978)
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From: syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com (Sang Y. Yum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux and MS-DOS
Keywords: partition
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:33:22 GMT
Reply-To: syy@ElSegundoCA.ncr.com
Distribution: world
Organization: Teradata/NCR


Hello, everyone!  Again, I turn to net-wisdom for the solution to my problem.

I have a 120MB IDE Drive and 500MB SCSI Drive on my 386/33 with 8MB RAM.
I've been trying to install Linux and DOS on these drive with no success.

What I am trying to do basically is this:

	First Drive: 120MB IDE
		100MB extended Linux file system
		20MB linux file system for swap file
	Second Drive: 500MB SCSI
		500MB Dos partition

If you can tell me what order and how I should install these systems, it would
be greatly appreciated.

I tried the following and failed.

	1. Pulled out IDE Drive.
	2. Installed DOS on SCSI drive.
	3. Put back IDE Drive.
	4. Installed Linux on IDE drive.
	5. Installed Lilo 0.8 with correct configuration (I think)
	6. Linux boots fine.
	6. DOS complains non-system disk.

Thanks for any info.

Sang


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From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Help with ps -U from latest SLS
Organization: Tea Conspiracy
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:15:05 GMT


In article <81490@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt2327c@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian Ricker) writes:

   I just got the Jan 18 SLS (which I have just upgraded to the 99.4 kernal). 
   ps does not work, and ps -U does not seem to be a valid switch. Do I need
   to recompile ps? If so, where do I get the source? I have seen that other
   people are having the same problem.

The latest ps in SLS does *not* use the -U switch to update the
psdatabase:  At this point, it doesn't even use the psdatabase.  It
uses the /proc directory.  To use this, put the following line in your
/etc/rc.local:
/etc/mount /proc /proc -t proc
(or use /bin/mount if your mount command is in /bin)

Better yet, add the appropriate similar line to you /etc/fstab file.
This is the "right" way to do it.

michaelkjohnson
From: rhogg@cs.strath.ac.uk (Richard J J Hogg CS92)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Cannot find libX11.so.2
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:55:25 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
Originator: rhogg@hunter-10.cs.strath.ac.uk

I downloaded the tvtwmrc binary and tried to run it.. It told me it couldn't find dynamic link library libX11.so.2 and I can't find it anywhere for ftp...

can anyone help??

Rich...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: leebr@skule.ecf.toronto.edu (Brian Lee)
Subject: f77/gcc and IEEE floating pt standards
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:59:05 GMT

I wrote a program that uses double precision floating point in f77
(I would guess f77 also uses gcc).  This program ran and gave the same
results on a SGI, a MIPS, and several SUN SPARC machines.  I ran it on
my 386 PC (no 387) and got truly *strange* results.  My question is:
    * are gcc and f77 supposed to conform to the IEEE fp standards?
    * are there IEEE compliant libraries?
    * are there new versions that do?
    * maybe I am dumb, what am I supposed to do?

thanks in advance!

leebr@skule.ecf.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bergstro@src.honeywell.com (Pete Bergstrom)
Subject: Prob. w/ outbound mail, inbound ok
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:03:46 GMT


I'm having difficulty with sending mail and news from my home machine.
My news and mail feed is working perfectly; that is, I get anything
sent from the internet nodes I have accounts on, but I can't send
anything out. (It used to work, then I upgraded something - I don't
know what- and it broke).

I've installed the latest SLS smail.tpz as well as a series of older
versions. 

The /usr/spool/smail/msglog entry for each failed mail try is like this:
  Xdefer: <srcsip!bergstro> reason: (ERR_127) router uucp_neighbors:
  command `/usr/bin/uuname` returned exit status EX_256

I've looked through the source for uuname and it explicitly returns a
0 and the experiments I've tried with just the shell (/usr/bin/uuname;
echo $?) bear that out.

It appears that the smail sources are a mess, but I'll try to get them
compiled. 

Has anyone solved this already? I'm at the point where I'll have to
backup all my config information and scripts and reinstall from
scratch.

Thanks, 
Pete
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From: gleasokr@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Kris Gleason)
Subject: scrollback buffers? (Was: Re: QUESTION: CUTCP-like display...)
Keywords: telnet CUTCP VC scroll
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:01:03 GMT

vinod@cse.iitb.ernet.in (Vinod Kulkarni) writes:

>CUTCP (telnet program for PCs) offers quite a nice interface to telnet to
>any other machine. I specially like scrolling back, and monitoring
>data arrivals in other sessions using slash charaters flipping left and
>right. 

>I either need 
>1.  A better telnet program that offers CUTCP-like features, or 
>2.  modification to VC code so as to 
>       i. Enable scrolling back to previous n'th line. And,
>      ii. A status line at the bottom of screen that shows
>          status  of other VCs [arrival of new characters, bells etc.] 

I think that some sort of scrollback buffer would be a great addition to the
VC code in the kernel.  I am wondering if anyone has implemented such a
beast, or if I should work on it myself.  (I don't think it should be a
_standard_ addition, with 1.0 on the way and everything... just a nice 
little hack that would add a little versatility)  As for a status bar,
I could do without... bells ring no matter which vc I'm on, so I can hear
talk requests and the like.  Plus, hitting alt-F2 is not a very big deal
when I want to check the status of something.

Kris
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: TextSearch under Linux
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:30:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan24.223011.5389
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University

In article <7-PCNews-124beta@alpha.saar.de>, georg@alpha.saar.de (Georg Edelmann) writes:
|> Hello Linux-World,
|> 
|> I'm quite sure that anyone had this problem too :
|> 
|> what's the shell command(s) for searching text in files recursively
|> in all subdirectories from a given point in FS tree ?
|> 
|> Thanks for help.
|> 
|> Georg
|> 
|> 
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|>                                                            D 7834 Herbolzheim 4
|>                                                            Germany
|> 

Please get a good Unix book. To find "foobar", a very simple one:

find . -exec grep foobar {} \;

It can more than that.


H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@snakemail.hut.fi (Johan Myreen)
Subject: Re: Emacs meta key in SLS
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<1993Jan20.154017.17844@aristo.tau.ac.il>
	<1993Jan21.155200.18760@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:18:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.155200.18760@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de> S_SPECKER@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Specker Alexander) writes:

>> I'm using Emacs from the SLS distribution and it doesn't recognize
>> the ALT key as meta. Is there any way to change it (~/.emacs)??

>You have to set this in the Kernel-Makefile and
>recompile it.

There are two ways of doing this, either make the alt key prepend an
escape character in front of the character pressed together with alt.
This setting is no longer in the Makefile; you choose this behaviour
with the new config script.

If you are not interested in eight bit characters, but use just plain
7-bit ASCII, you can put this in your .emacs:

(setq meta-flag 't)

For this to work, you must answer 'no' to the question in the config
script.

--
Johan Myreen
jem@cs.hut.fi
From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: DOS emulation
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:06:15 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
NNTP-Posting-Host: bugatti.meaddata.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

John Ryan (john@postmaster@hq.af.mil) wrote:
: 
: --
: The gnu people are putting together a package called jacal.
: This is a symbolic math processor.  I was looking at making a
: troff2jackal and back again translator then patching the adrew ez
: program eq to send the troff code to it for evaluation return and
: display.  This would be a WYSIWIG (almost) way of evaluating
: equations.
: 
: Want to help? 
: -------
: John Ryan             john@hq.af.mil        ..uunet!hq!john
What about GNU Emacs Calc?

It's supposed to be 80%+ of Mathematica.

On typesetting, I used Calc in batch mode to process huge (1500Char)
fortran equations to tex (since Calc understands a bunch of formats
and will convert) and then displaying nearly realtime with xdvi.  Some
were 11+ screens wide.

sdw
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@snakemail.hut.fi (Johan Myreen)
Subject: Re: Creeping featursm (Was: Re: ANNOUNCE: linux-0.99 patchlevel 3)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<1993Jan14.172817.7750@aston.ac.uk> <jeremy.727514644@chao>
	<SCT.93Jan21162633@carna.dcs.ed.ac.uk>
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:23:15 GMT

In article <SCT.93Jan21162633@carna.dcs.ed.ac.uk> sct@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Stephen Tweedie) writes:
>In article <jeremy.727514644@chao>, jeremy@sw.oz.au (Jeremy Fitzhardinge) writes:
>> I have no objection to things being added to Linux if they are useful,
>> but System V-type IPC are not the way to go - they are BAD.  The main
...
>> I would suggest that mmap() type shared memory should be implemented.

>I agree with you from the "operating systems philosophy" point of
>view.  Unfortunately, compatibility and performance are also issues.
>We currently DO have SYSV-IPC as a kernel option; there is too much
>software out there using these facilities to give them up.

I'm curious: how much software is there really that uses SYSV IPC,
without any alternate way to go? As we are talking about Linux here,
only free software counts. Could you give some examples of software
like this? (This should not be taken as a flame, I really want to
know.)

Somebody else said that keeping the linux kernel small can be done
with conditional compilation and let the user decide what goes in and
what doesn't. That's not what I meant by keeping the kernel small, to
try to keep the kernel image file as small as possible. Perhaps
'non-hairy' is a better word. A known Linux hacker once said: "If I
were to choose between a feature filled kludged kernel and a piece of
art, I'd take the piece of art." Compile time configuration could make
things even worse, filling the code with #ifdef this and #ifndef
that... (I'm not particularly a friend of the C preprocessor.
Somtimes I feel like writing an article called "The C Preprocessor
Considered Harmful".)

In another article somebody asked something like "if we want to keep
the kernel simple, why do we have soundcard support etc..." I haven't
looked at the soundcard code, but I think there's a difference between,
for instance, adding drivers for various pieces of hardware and adding
features which have a significant impact on the whole kernel, cutting
deep into the foundations of the design. This is especially true when
the features to be added start to overlap with other features of the
kernel.

Note that what I've said above does not neccessarily apply to the SYSV
IPC patches, they just happened to provoke me to post the article that
started this thread. But I still think bloating the kernel with
feature after feature isn't a good idea.

As usual, these are just my thoughts on the issue.

--
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jem@cs.hut.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: astoker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew Stoker)
Subject: SLS 0.99 Installation Problems/Errors
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 03:35:22 GMT

Well, I decided to bite the bullet and put the latest version of SLS on my PC,
spent the weekend and Monday afternoon downloading the disks.  I get home,
fdisk ok, mkfs ok, start off doinstall...so far so good.  Alas, during the
installation, I get one or other of the following messages:

installing package...stdin is not in gzip format
done

installing package
read error on stdin: unknown error
done

The really odd thing is that it doesn't do this for every package on every
disk, ie. some packages install with no error message.  So, what's going on
here?  As far as I know, the downloading went ok, and as far as I can tell,
the installation went ok too, but I think I need more time to check that,
after all, there's a lot there :-)  Can anyone shed any light on these error
messages and how to fix them.

One thing, I downloaded SLS by ftping the disk files to my local site, and the
using kermit (no funny comments) to get the files to PC, I don't trust the
local network and kermit to download binaries safely, so I converted them into
an ASCII format using a program called `makeboo' (might be more familiar to UK
users than others) because it produces smaller files than uuencode.  On the
PC, I run another program called `deboo' to get the binaries back before
copying to floppy disk.  I can't see that this would introduce any problems
though.

	Andy

P.S. "smart" alec replies saying RTFM can goto /dev/null, I have a pile of
printed FM which says nothing about this.
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From: fmg@alpha.smi.med.pitt.edu (Filip Gieszczykiewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: QIC-80 with Linux + 2.88MB questions
Summary: will this controller help?
Keywords: tape Colorado IOmega backup
Date: 22 Jan 93 06:34:27 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Medical Informatics, Pittsburgh, PA USA


	Greetings. Perhaps a bit off-subject but I saw something that
	toggled that bit in the back of my mind... JDR (elecronic
	parts place) has something called 
	
	"2.88MB intelligent Floppy Controller... Allows booting from a 
	2.88MB diskette... Supports QIC-80 1MB/sec transfers, eliminating 
	expensive controllers...  Part # MCT-FDC-ED (catalog #2 
	(1992)) @ $79.95"

	So, anyone ever try one of these? Will it ease the timing
	problems that these cheap tape drives have with Linux? (I'm
	VERY interested in a reply - I have one :-)

	Also, BTW, about that 2.88MB... Does Linux support it?

	Take care.

	P.S. I have no stock in this firm... All I ever ordered from
	them was some proto boards....
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From: wrankin@ee.egr.duke.edu (William T. Rankin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Does Linux support VESA Local Bus Video?
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:00:26 GMT
Organization: Duke University EE Dept.; Durham, NC
Originator: wrankin@ee.egr.duke.edu


In article <C1JBvs.4Iu@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, murphy@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Michael L. Murphy) writes:
> 
> 	In this month's Computer Shopper (Feb. '93) there's an ad for
> a FastMicro 486 DX/33 Mhz PC.

good choice, it's a nice price :-)

[snip]

> 	I want to run Linux on this machine.  I know 8 Meg of memory
> should be sufficient, and I should have enough disk space.  My question:
> Is the video card Linux-compatible?
[SNIP]
> 	If anyone can tell me for certain whether this machine will
> run Linux/X11, it would help me greatly.  It sounds like a great Unix
> machine otherwise.  Thanks for any help.

well, in a couple days i should be able to tell you for certain.
that's when my fastmicro is supposed to get here.  that is, if the
486sx/25 has the same video controller that you described.(?)

ordered it two weeks ago, sheesh!

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From: Daryl.Jurbala@f231.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Daryl Jurbala)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux on amiga-pc-bridgeb
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:54:00 -0800

NK>Has anyone ever tried to run Linux on an Amiga Bridgeboard ?
NK>As I don't want to wait for the Amiga-Port of Linux (I'm looking

If I were in your shoes I'd just grab the first 4 disks of Linux and see
if
they will install properly.  If they do then grab some more, etc.  It's
the
safest way to go.  With my knowledge of bridgeboards I am trempted to
say it
will run, but with my limited knowledge of Linux I really can't be too
sure.
-Daryl
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: networking faq?
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:52:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.015650.5213@sfu.ca> rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) writes:
>The linux networking faq that used to be on
>sunsite:/pub/Linux/system/Network is now a symbolic link to a non
>existent file (faq-net-0.99.2).  Can anyone tell me where this file
>is?

The link is now fixed.. You probably could have followed the link to
the docs directory and have seen that only ther version had changed...

Regardless, if you have problems with sunsite, mail to ftpkeeper@sunsite
or jem@sunsite. You'll get faster service. :)

jem.

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From: cloos@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (James H. Cloos Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: uptime(1) from SLS 99.2
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:12:43 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies, Ithaca, NY 14853
Obsoletes: <CLOOS.93Jan25024600@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU>
Originator: cloos@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU

Just a note about what I've found out since I posted that last message:

The latest procps suite (uploaded just this week, for that matter)
includes a version of free, the output of which conforms to waht you
get under SunOS 4.1, &c--that is to say BSD format, yes?

I still do not know what version was included in the first 99.2 SLS
release (what I have, that is), nor do I know if a newer version of
uptime(1) is included in the current SLS distrib (ie., the .tpz
version).

If you do not get output from uptime(1) that looks like:

  5:08am  up 3 days, 18 hrs,  44 users,  load average: 0.34, 0.33, 0.16

then do be sure to upgrade to the current procps suite.

Enjoy,

-JimC

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From: bribbeck@exucom.com (Bob Ribbeck)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem with lpr/lpd solved?
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:45:25 GMT
Organization: ExuCom Multimedia Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Reinhold Schaaf (p412rei@fs1) wrote:
: Hi world,

: there was a discussion in this newsgroup some weeks ago about problems
: with lpr/lpd in SLS 0.99p2. Lpr can queue printjobs but is unable
: to start lpd again. It seemed to be the general opinion that this
: problem has to do with ownership and/or permissions of files. However,
: there was the claim of one poster that she found a bug in the lpr (or
: lpd) code.

: Unfortunately the discussion stopped at that point and I am left alone
: with my nonworking version of lpr. So, *please*, can anyone tell me the
: truth about lpr? Is it a question of file ownership/permissions or a
: bug? If it is a bug, is there a fix?

: Thank you all in advance

: Reinhold Schaaf


  Using lpr spooling with lpd requires the tcpip network package.
 
  hosts.equiv must be added to /ust/etc/inet 
        all that is in this file is the word      localhost

  in the /usr/etc/net services file make sure " lp    35/tcp " exists 
 
  lpr, lprm, lpq, and lptest in usr/bin must be group deamon

  /usr/spool needs a lp0 directory with owner daemon group daemon
  in lp0 make a blank file  .seq with 666 permision group daemon

  in /etc do:   ln -sf /usr/etc/printcap printcap   
                ln -sf /usr/etc/lpd lpd
           (the reason for this is lpr/lpq look's in one)
              (directory and lpd looks in the other)    
 
  the printcap should be similar to this:

      lp|epson:lp=/dev/lp0:sd=/usr/spool/lp0:lf=/usr/adm/lp0


This should get the print spolling working.