From: Lars Thore Aarhus <larsaa@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Norwegian results from July (*long*)
Cc: sundsbarm@davidsys.com, warloe@usc.edu, lasseh@seattleu.edu,
    polsen@was.waii.com, finn@fsg.com, w2baust@watson.ibm.com,
    einevoll@SDPHLS.UCSD.EDU, eivind@milton.u.washington.edu
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:47:45 GMT
Originator: larsaa@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no


 After a three weeks vacation to Stockholm, Copenhagen, Berlin, Prague
and Cesky Tesin (!!!) (look it up in a GOOD Czeck-map.) by
Inter-rail I'm back to keep you all updated about Norwegian football.
By the way my vacation wasn't completely without football (naturally
when you're a football fan isn't it ?), because in addition to all the
usual non-football-related stuff you do on a holiday as drinking beer
(David, you were right about the Czeck ones, excellent !), meeting
friends and genarally having a good time I took the opportunity to
watch two games abroad. 

 First I visited the infamous 'Soederstadion'
in Stockholm which reminded me that the stadiums in Norway 
can't be that bad after all :-) to see the home team Hammarby (D1)
entertain newly promoted Bundesliga-team Saarbrucken in an Intertoto
match. Judging from this match the German side must really improve 
their play if they'll avoid beeing relagated straight back to the 
2.Bundesliga. Although having most of the possesion they rarely
created clear chances and was easily disposed on fast counter-attacks
from Hammarby which in the end won 3-0. 

 My second game was in Berlin last Saturday when Hertha BSC took on
St.Pauli from Hamburg in the first round (of 46 !!) in the 2.Bundesliga.
Up until the match-day I thought that Hertha played at the big
Olympic-stadium and that I finally should get an opportunity to watch
a game in a really BIG stadium (> 80.000) but it wasn't to be. By some reason 
the game was played in the former East-Berlin in Jahn-sportpark 
which had a capacity of only 25.000 and used to host clubs like
Dynamo Berlin (now FC Berlin) and Union Berlin from former
East-Germany I guess. The stadium was nevertheless more than big
enough for the occation since only 11.500 spectators from this 
milion-city found it worth while turning up. Despite this small
attendance the ticket-system was a mess, which resulted in me missing
the first quarter of the game after queueing for 30 minutes. This
was in sharp contrast to the other German stadiums I've visited
(Niedersachsen (Hannover 96) and Olympic-stadium in Munich (Bayern
Muenchen)) where everything went very smoothly despite much larger
crowds as well. 

 The game itself was dominated by Hertha which got an 2-0 lead early
on. St.Pauli pulled one back right before the break and equalised
three minutes from time on a slightly dubious penalty which sent the
homefans up from their seats screaming at the referee. This reaction
summed up the game to me, overall the crowd was rather hostile at
least by Norwegian standards constantly raising from their seats and 
yelling at the St.Pauli-players and the referee. I wonder if all 
German matches are like this, to me it was a bit frightening. One
other thing I noticed was the exceptionally large number of policemen
for an ordinary 2.Bundesliga-game. After the game finished (it ended
2-2) there were policemen and sirens everywhere so I deceided to
keep a low profile and just walked back to the centre. According to
the newspaper 50 policecars packed with policemen were present to take
care of the only 400 travelling St.Pauli fans. I though that the
St.Pauli-fans had a reputation ,despite their location ,as a friendly
bunch of people genuinely interested in football, or is it the 
Hertha-fans which are violent ? I know about the crowd-trouble in
the former East-Germany and especially with FC. Berlin a few years ago,
but is this usual in German football or is Berlin the exception ? 
I can't remember anything like this neither in Hannover nor Munich. 
Any comments from readers in Germany are most welcome.

 Let's then switch subject back to Norway and the results in the two
upper leagues during my vacation. Unfortuneately I've only the
goalscorers from the last round on Sunday so anyone interested in the
scorers from the other matches must confront other sources. (If many
of you ask me, MAYBE I can look it up in some old newspapers ..)

		
             PREMIER DIVISION


Postponed matches (1/7):
========================
Rosenborg		Hamarkameratene		5 - 2
Viking			Tromsoe			0 - 0

Round 11 (5/7):
===============
Brann			Mjoendalen		2 - 0
Kongsvinger		Rosenborg		1 - 0
Lyn			Molde			1 - 1
Sogndal			Tromsoe			3 - 0
Start			Lillestroem		2 - 2
Viking			Hamarkameratene		1 - 1 

Postponed match (8/7):
======================
Rosenborg		Start			6 - 0 !!!!


Round 12 (19/7):
================

Brann			Hamarkameratene		3 - 1 (2-0)	6.867
1 - 0 G.Holter (12)
2 - 0 T.E. Soltvedt (25)
2 - 1 L. Nordli (87)
3 - 1 P.E. Ahlsen (89)


Kongsvinger		Mjoendalen		6 - 2 (3-2)	2.635
0 - 1 P.I.Fornes (7)
0 - 2 J. Hesjedal (p.k) (21)
1 - 2 K.R. Kaasa (23)
2 - 2 D. Riisnaes (24)
3 - 2 Kaasa (37)
4 - 2 Riisnaes (71)
5 - 2 T.Bergmann (79)
6 - 2 V.Sanderud (p.k) (86)


Lyn			Rosenborg		1 - 3 (0-3)	11.417
0 - 1 G. Soerloth (22)
0 - 2 K. Ingebrigtsen (31)
0 - 3 S.I. Bjoernebye (44)
1 - 3 K.B. Olsen (84)


Sogndal			Start			1 - 2 (1-1)	2.957
0 - 1 H. Bjoernsaas (22)
1 - 1 H. Flo (29)
1 - 2 M. Pettersen (87)


Tromsoe			Molde			Postponed


Viking			Lillestroem		0 - 2 (0-1)	7.117
0 - 1 D. Schiller (9)
0 - 2 T. Buer (76)


Table:

Rosenborg		12  8 2  2 28- 8 26
Lillestroem		12  7 4  1 30-10 25
Start			12  6 5  1 26-17 23
Kongsvinger		12  6 2  4 26-15 20
Lyn			12  6 2  4 16-17 20
Brann			12  4 4  4 17-17 16
Hamarkameratene		12  4 2  6 18-24 14
Molde			11  4 2  5  9-16 14
Tromsoe			11  3 4  4  9-17 13
-------------------------------------------
Sogndal			12  3 3  6 19-26 12
-------------------------------------------
Viking			12  1 6  5 10-19  9
Mjoendalen		12  0 2 10  7-29  2


Topscorers:

Kenneth Nusaether		Lillestroem		10
Frank Strandli			Start			10
Kjell Roar Kaasa 		Kongsvinger		 9
Haavard	Flo			Sogndal			 7


Next week (26/7):

Hamarkameratene-Kongsvinger, Lillestroem-Brann, Mjoendalen-Lyn
Molde-Sogndal, Rosenborg-Tromsoe, Start-Viking.


		FIRST DIVISION


	GROUP A					GROUP B

Postponed match from 8th round (30/6):
======================================	
                                        Vard		Aalesund	0-2

Postponed match from 8th round (1/7):	
=====================================
                                        Djerv 1919	Haugar		4-0

Postponed matches from 6th round (8/7): 
=======================================
                                        Fana		Haugar		1-0
                                        Fyllingen	Aalesund	2-2

Postponed matches from 7th round (8/7):
=======================================
Stroemsgodset	Fredrikstad	0-0	Strindheim	Djerv 1919	3-1


Round 10 (12/7):
================
Bodoe/Glimt	Elverum		2-1	Bryne		Haugar		3-1
Baerum		Stroemsgodset	2-0	Djerv 1919	Stroemmen	1-3
Eik		Droebak/Frogn	1-3     Fyllingen	Strindheim	1-0
Moss		Odd		1-2	Hoedd		Fana		2-4
Pors		Fredrikstad	2-1	Os		Aalesund	1-0
Tromsdalen	Vaalerengen	1-0	Vard		Stjordals/Blink	1-0

Round 11 (19/7):
================
Droebak/Frogn	Baerum		1-2	Fana		Bryne		5-1 !!!
Elverum		Pors		1-1	Haugar		Fyllingen	3-7 !!!
Fredrikstad	Moss		P-P	Stj./Blink	Os		3-2
Odd		Tromsdalen	0-1	Strindheim	Vard		0-1
Stroemsgodset	Bodoe/Glimt	1-1	Stroemmen	Hoedd		6-0 !!!
Vaalerengen	Eik		2-5 !!! Aalesund	Djerv 1919	1-3 

Table at half-way-stage:

Bodoe/Glimt	11 8 1 2 37-12 25	Bryne		11 8 1 2 25-13 25
---------------------------------       ---------------------------------
Baerum		11 7 1 3 19-12 22	Fyllingen	11 6 3 2 23-12 21
---------------------------------       ---------------------------------
Vaalerengen	11 6 1 4 18-19 19       Streoemmen	11 6 2 3 23-14 20
Stroemsgodset	11 5 3 3 20-13 18	Fana		11 6 2 3 20-13 20
Eik		11 5 3 3 19-18 18	Strindheim	11 5 2 4 13-13 17
Droebak/Frogn	11 5 1 5 17-18 16       Stjordals/Blink 11 5 1 5 19-16 16
Elverum		11 4 3 4 19-15 15	Vard		11 4 3 4 11-14 15
Odd		11 3 3 5 13-22 12       Djerv 1919	11 4 2 5 23-19 14
Tromsdalen	11 3 2 6 10-14 11	Hoedd		11 4 2 5 15-24 14
--------------------------------- 	---------------------------------
Moss		10 3 1 6 11-19 10	Aalesund	11 2 4 5 16-15 10 !!!
Pors		11 2 3 6 10-22  9	Os		11 2 2 7 11-23  8
Fredrikstad	10 1 4 5  6-15  7	Haugar		11 2 0 9 14-37  6


The leaders of the 2nd divisions (A-F) are :

Skeid (Oslo), Lillestroem 2, Aassiden (Drammen), Aalgaard ,
Nardo (Trondheim) and Mjoelner (Narvik).

Since Lillestroem 2 can't be promoted the team at the promotion spot
in group B is at the moment Grue.

That's all for now.

lars...

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|  Lars Thore Aarhus                  e-mail: larsaa@ifi.uio.no |
|  Department of Informatics                                    |
|  University of Oslo                   'GO Villa,GO'           |
|                                                               |
|  'Lyn for the Norwegian championship 1992'                    |
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