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From: yawei@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (~{QG9p~})
Subject: Re: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
Keywords: Qi Gong
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:11:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.061210.23905@marlin.jcu.edu.au> phsj@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Su Jianfeng) writes:

>  There are many people to critize the QiGong master's claim.
>Unfortunately, they don't know how to repeat the QiGong master's
>results.   Thus, they can not prove the masters are liers. 

  This is rubbish. If Yan Xin's claims can be repeated, no one
would be calling him a liar. :-)

  It is unfortunate that a student association in Indiana was
willing to sponsor Yan's talk. If he wants to talk, let his
fan clubs sponsor it. Student associations representing junior
scientists and to-be engineers should think twice before
sponsoring pseudo-science.

  It is interesting that Yan Xin no longer collects money at
his talks. I wonder whether that was due to declining audience
size or that he has figure out a way to collect money from
our credit cards by mental power without our noticing it.


  Ya-Gui Wei

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: nntp@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (nntp user)
Subject: test
Summary: This is a test.
Keywords: test test test tes
Organization: LRS
Distribution: test test.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:33:57 GMT

This article was probably generated by a buggy news reader.
From: tc2u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tieju Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: What was China before 1949?
Date: 5 Jan 93 06:06:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.EfGP85W00WB6IQ2qsX
Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

you have obvious been brain-washed by the ccp!!! You should use this
opportunity here in U.S to learn more indepedent facts and then comment
on the issue.

tie ju  chen

direct your comments to :

cheetah!tie@bcr.att.com or
tie@cheetah.bigcat.bellcore.com
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi during CR
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:50:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin

In article <1993Jan11.195929.4251@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> jfeng@vax.cns.muskingum.edu writes:
>In article <1isr63INNf3o@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes:
>> 
>>>Chinese people, especially Chinese intellectuals studied/are studying 
>>>overseas are responsibile for, major part if not all, letting the minority 
>>>takings hands on destruction. Why there was no single voice out loud 
>>>
>In those years, dictators such
>as the Gang of Four, especially Mao had absolute power. They were above the law
>and above the people.  People were tight controled and had had no power under
>dictatorship.  In my opinion, no specific individuals except for Mao and the
>Gang of Four should be blamed. 

Thanks for the explaination about this PEOPLE's republic, people have no position
to speak out at all. Then why THE PEOPLE still support this PEOPLE's Gang after
they all have seen THIS PEOPLE's GANG killed PEOPLE using machine guns and tanks
at TAM?  Is there any logical reason to support that?
From: zshi@acsu.buffalo.edu (Zhixin Shi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: where can I find Norton Change Dir for PC?
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:34:30 GMT
Organization: UB


Hi, friends,

Is there any one can tell me if there is an anonymous ftp site which
includes the Norton Change Directory for PC(I have an old version called GO
and I saw a newer version called NC on a PC which may have virus), or I
have to buy it from somewhere?

Thanks a lot.
From: zshi@acsu.buffalo.edu (Zhixin Shi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: CCTV
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:25:36 GMT
Organization: UB

Hi, there,

Could you tell me some more about that XiaoErDuo? Where I can buy one and
how to use it to get CCTV?

Thanks.
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi during the Cultural Revolution
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:23:12 GMT

More Chinese were killed in such way during the KMT time.

Here are the top ten Chinese killers:

1. KMT  (black killer)
2. CSS in the US (soft killer)
3. Chairman Mao's Red Guards (open killer)
4. Hongkong black gangs (criminal killer)
5. Yunnan/Guangxi drug dealers (criminal killer)
6. Guangdong black businessmen (criminal killer)
7. Sichuan Li Wencai and other killers in the Xikang area of Sichuan
   (big killers in KMT time)
8. Xinjiang Shen Shicai and other killers in Yili (big killers in KMT time)
9. Dai Li of KMT's "CIA" who killed numerous genuine Chinese who did not agree
   with KMT (black killer)
10. Bloodcarders in the CSS community in the US (soft killer)
From: jackie@haas.berkeley.edu (Jackie Talsma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Need detailed instructions for making rice wine
Date: 8 Jan 1993 00:42:41 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: Did Jesus practice qi gong?
    <1993Jan4.224408.22668@newsgate.sps.mot.com> 
    <1993Jan5.123230.17655@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:58:55 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha) writes:

>	You haven't answered the *implied* question. If you are in the group
>I delineated (believe in qi gong, but don't believe in the miracles), and
>you say that anyone can master qi gong, then why can't Jesus have had qi gong?

>Mark

Let me answer your question in a simple way. First, almost every Chinese
believe in qi gong in a certain way, but not all of them believe the miracle
created by "qi gong". Second, every human/huwoman knows how to use qi gong
in a certain way, but not to the point to master it. For example, when you
have a violent quarrel with your wife (or husband), and you almost want to ...
At this point, you usually will tell yourself "calm down" and after a little
while you will feel better. That is qi gong, which means controling yourself by
your will. Then, you will know there is time you can not master it.
Have fun practicing qi gong.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: carl_@nwu.edu 
Subject: Re: CCP is China's hope
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:46:13 GMT

In article <C0Dz3q.AuG@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)  
writes:
> In article <106134@bu.edu> lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
> >In article <C0Ctwy.F1w@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)  
writes:
> >>In article <93004.090512YUL@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> YUL@QUCDN.QueensU.CA writes:
> >>>(deleted)
> >>We should not have whole sale Westen style "democracy", it should be
> >>discraminately selelcted to serve China.
> >
> >It sounds right, but the problem is: who is in charge of such selecting?
> >Zhang ZhiDong suggested this "discraminately selelction" 100 years ago,
> >and Lu Xun repeated this 60 years ago, and Mao selectively got Stalinism:-(
> >
> Actually it has been ongoing discussion within current establishment in  
China,
> in and outside CCP. I do believe the selectors should cover as broad ax
> possible, but at same time, decipline and requirement for competence and
> loyalty to China should also be put forth on those who have voice in the
> process.

Could you please tell me what kind of decipline you are going to use. Also, how  
do you know whether a certain person is loyal to China. Mao seemed loyal to  
China. Hitler seemed loyal to Germany. Sadam Hussain seems loyal to Iraq.  
Did/do they bring happiness and prosperity to China, Germany and Iraq.

Also, different people have different standard of loyalty. Some people think  
shouting patriotic slogan is loyalty while some don't think so. So, your  
argument is nothing new. It falls into dead loop again.

Carl
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 09:05:12 EST
From: <YUL@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: CCP is China's hope

> CCP is China's hope.

I totally agree with you!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:42:42 EST
From: <U5189@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Everyone should change his major to Qi Gong major
 <wshi.726122688@ponder> <1993Jan4.061210.23905@marlin.jcu.edu.au>

Some netters are demanding hard evidence for Qi Gong. I remember there were
several published papers written by Yian Xin and his cooperators in Qinhua
and the Institute of High Energy. I had several copies before I came to US.
People may have different opinion on whether or not those experimental
data can be regarded as hard evidence. In my memory, they followed strict
scientific procedures.
The biggest problem for Qi Gong seems to be how one can describe Qi in terms
of modern science since it is very difficult to repeat Qi Gong experiment.
People are very uncomfortable when Qi Gong masters say that one must become a
true believer before he/she can practice Qi effectively. So some people claim
that Qi Gong is a religion,not a branch of science.
However, we must be very careful when we disclaim something, especially
something which is very controversial, such as Qi Gong. Even now, scientists
know little about how the brain works and where life came from... Qi Gong is
closely related to the brain and the nature of life. What I want to say is
we shoulf have an open mind while keeping scientifically critical.
Any comment is welcome.

Y. Ge
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:34209 soc.culture.hongkong:16897 soc.culture.taiwan:16851 talk.politics.china:3608
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: Guangxi massacre (Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi... )
Date: 8 Jan 1993 18:38:25 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin
Summary: Additional debts
Keywords: The CCP blood debts increased

In article <1ika9cINNet7@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> zeng@mth.msu.edu (Zhonggang Zeng) writes:
>
>How many people were killed in August 20 Revolutionary Operation? 
>In early 80's, CCP began investigation about it. When I went back
>to Guangxi from college for vacation, I was told a shocking, but not
>surprising number: 600,000. 
>
>Several years ago in US. I met with a Guangxi fellow whose father was
>on the investigation team. I asked him whether the 600,000 was true. He
>told me: "It was not true. It was too conservative." 
>

From: wcsh@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (W. Sheng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Debts of Blood The CCP Owe The Chines People (1949-1989)
Keywords: Remember!
Date: 4 Jun 89 21:13:54 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Rochester, Computing Center


Debts of Blood the CCP Owe the Chinese People!

In 1949
   According to official estimates, one million "feudal bullies"	 1 M
   were publicly executed in North China by the CCP.

>From 1949-1958 
   Thirty million were executed in so called "Land Reform",		30 M
   "Counterrevolutionary Campaigns", and "Antirightest Campaign".
   Eighteen to twenty-four million were sent to forced-labor camps. 

In 1959
   CCP's "Great Leap" killed at least 27 million peasant lives.		27 M

>From 1958-1959
   One million Tibetans were killed by the PLA.				 1 M

In 1968
   The PLA killed at least a million when the country was		 1 M
   under military control.

>From 1949-1969
   Conservative estimates of the number of deaths in the forced		25 M
   camps are twenty-five million.

In 1983
   Public trials and executions were practised again in "Anti-political
   Pollution Campaign". Number of deaths is stll unknown.

In 1989
   Now, the CCP is massacring Beijing citizens and students!
   How many lives they still have to kill for their enjoyment
   of privilege and right to corruption?
 
In 1950
   During Korean war, it was estimated 1.2 million people were sent
   to battle field and killed.
-------------------------------------------------------------
Source: 
Banister, Judith
1984    Article in The Baltimore Sun, April 26, 1984

Michael, F.H. and Taylor, G.F., 
1964    The Far East in the Modern World, rew.ed. Settle: Univ.
        of Washington Press

San Francisco Examiner, July 11, 1984
 
Walker, R. L., 
1959    China under Communism: The First Five Years. New Haven, 
        Conn.: Yale Univ Press
1971    The Human Cost of Communism in China. U.S. Congress,
        Committee on the Judiciary. Washington, D.C.: U.S.
        Government Printing Office

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: an3845@anon.penet.fi (Tory)
Subject: Re: war
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.china
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:30:44 GMT

an3879@anon.penet.fi writes:

>...

Is this a new fiction or is it the old one (`Huang2 Huo4')?
Has it been translated in English?

In 'Huang Huo', the author does not show much racialism.
And a Chinese should not be a racialist like some stupid 
white men.

Tory

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yongbai@physics.su.OZ.AU 
Subject: Re: CCP is China's hope
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:17:50 GMT

In article <1i9avvINNm5j@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> you write:
>
>CCP is China's hope.
>This is the truth - like it or not.
>It will ends only in the hands of itself -
>no outside power can bring it to an end.
>IFCSS and D-fighters are nothing but a bad, mad, sad story.
>
>internet:  an3845@anon.penet.fi
>** Anonymity & Privacy by PAX - Public Access Unix (Adelaide,South Australia)

        This opinion is nothing new here.  I have discussed with many people
Sydney and Adelaide on this matter.  This idea is  obviously supported by some
australians, who may be not so lucky on this land.  They argued that the
australia government/system is similar to CCP system: for example, a corruption
government, bad police system....  They also told me that if you are poor then
you are likely to be considered as crimal-assorciatted.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong)
Subject: Forwarding: Call for Donation to a CSS Killed in Car Accident
Reply-To: U25096@uicvm.uic.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:59:16 GMT

--------------------------- Forwarding Begins -----------------------------
>From U25096@uicvm.uic.edu Fri Jan  8 04:57 CST 1993
>To: <xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu>

Would you help me to post this to CHINA-NT, SCC, and some
other Chinese related networks? Thanks a lot. Gao

  CALL FOR DONATION TO MS ZHANG - A CHINESE KILLED IN A ACCIDENT

  As you may all know, Ms. Jingjing Zhang, a 28 years old young
lady and wife of a UIC Chinese student, died on January 3rd after
two-day struggle with the crash injuries in a chain traffic
accident in which about 40 cars crashed near Chicago city on I-90,
the Kennedy Expressway. Ms. Zhang was the only one who died although
dozens of people were injured in this accident on that icy day. However,
this is not the only tragedy for the newly married young couple.
Her husband, Mr. Zikang Pan, 27, a graduate student of EECS Department
of the University of Illinois at Chicago, was also terribly injuried
in this accident and is still in critical condition. This young
couple have been in the United States for two years, and they do not
have any relatives here.

  This miserable accident has shocked us and the Chinese community in
great Chicago area. A lot of things need to be done for this
couple. We are asking you for help. Your contributions will be
used for her funeral service, for having their parents to come and
for sending her remaining back to China. Any amount of your
donation will be appreciated by Zhang's and Pan's family and the
UIC Chinese community.

Please make your check payable to:

PAN/ZHANG FUND

and addressed to:

Credit Union 1, UIC, (M/C 612)
AOB 1737 W. Polk, RM7
Chicago, IL 60612

Fund rising by:

THE CHINESE STUDENTS AND SCHOLARS FRIENDSHIP ASSO. AT UIC

--------------------------- Forwarding Ends -----------------------------

Forwarded by Bo Xiong in Chicago
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng)
Subject: Re: 1993 joke (CCP is China's hope)
Organization: Penn State, Department of Physics
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:55:19 GMT

In article <lkm82aINN849@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>
>************************************************************************
>A New China without borders ..................
>
>Money and management from Taiwan and Hong Kong are transforming the south
>into a power house. But
>
>IF WE WAITED FOR BEIJING, NOTHING WOULD GET DONE HERE.
>
>Says a local official.
>
>*************************************************************************
>
>Does it explain something?


	Sure, bureaucracy.

	If you ask Mario Cuomo or Bill Clinton (before January 20th), 
they would tell you that "if we waited for Washington, nothing would
get done here".  In fact, this is one of the major slogans Clinton
used in his campaign.


	 Eddie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: Help Wanted on Chinese Computing
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:34:21 GMT

>In article <1ii18tINNp5n@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> liud@hobo.ECE.ORST.EDU (Don Liu) writes:
>>am right, the GB code is the one I really needed. Now my question is,
>>how do I get a table for the GB code? i.e., given a Chinese Char,
>>whats the GB.

I put GB<->pinyin maps on anonymous ftp hanauma.stanford.edu a while ago.
These are not monotonic mappings because of ambiquities in the pronounciation and writing
of Chinese.

I am still looking for a multi-syllable list that would help reduce pinyin ambiguity in
word processing.
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Guangxi massacre (Re: Cannibalism in Guangxi... )
Keywords: The CCP blood debts increased
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:38:59 GMT

In article <C0KDpG.4x6@cmcl2.nyu.edu> yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang) writes:

>Bullshit, what makes you think you can teach others, my statement is
>that 'China-bashing will do harm to the reform', I still stand by it.

But criticism (and harsh but true criticism) isn't really "bashing," which
should be definied as unjustified criticism.

And yes, if you still stand by that statement, I presume that you would assume
that Mikhail Gorbachev's "Soviet-bashing" would do harm to the reform.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: lix@crsa.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Subject: Re: Illiteracy Rate in PRC
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:34:14 GMT

jinxiong@cs.ucf.edu (Chen Jinxiong) wrote:
>In article <106284@bu.edu> lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
<>
<>You are certainly welcome!!! If you convinced me that there is something
<>MaoDun in my message, I ceratinly will donate to SOS as my "Wang Yang Bu
<>Lao" for next generation. How about yourself?
<
<I will not.

Thanks for giving up your challenge.

>[about the invented proverb Yi2 zi3 zhi1 mao2, Jiang1 zi3 zhi1 deng2]

>Mine is from my own invention and I feel it is proper.

So you understand what is "Jiang1", but you want to invent a more proper
proverb or a new character? Congratulation in either case!

>You can say 
>what you want, just not telling others that I am also included 
>for the "SOS" and raise your iliterate figure..

OK, you are beyond SOSing, since you can creat new characters. Have you
ever been "Shock troop on the road of new long march" or 3-8 red flag hand?
I think you deserve such a title. Nowaday not many can invent new charcaters
or new proverbs.

Upon the request of Mr. Chen, he is not in illiterate figure but in super-
literate figure, the literate rate will now be, well what a surprise, still
the same.

Nonetheless, the education in China is still in danger, we luckier ones
should do something for younger ones. Inflating China's literate rate
does not help any kids but your own ego, but a few bucks will.

The SOS GaoGans are discussing the sponsoring rate of pupils, it is
suggested at 400 yuan per year. But none of them knows whether 400 is
appropriate, maybe 300? The Honkong Ming Pao HOPE project has a rate
HK$300 per five years, which may be too low?

Any netters recently from countryside, please give those GaoGans some
suggestions. Thanks a lot.
From: jian@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Ming Jian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Test only
Keywords: test
Date: 4 Jan 93 03:34:17 GMT
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Originator: jian@gauguin.mcrcim.mcgill.edu


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: Does Fudan Univ in Shanghai have internet access?
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 21:26:58 GMT

In article <DLIU.93Jan6140215@ark.njit.edu>, dliu@ark.njit.edu (Dong Liu) writes:
|> >>>>> On 6 Jan 93 07:12:45 GMT, jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley) said:
|> 
|> Jim> Can someone tell me just why only one Univ has access to the net in 
|> Jim> China...Seems unbelievable...    
|> 
|> Jim> Would love to hear from any CCP guys that can defend this state of
|> Jim> affairs.
|> 
|> Just FYI, TCP/IP is not an international standard, so it is very
|> reasonable for China to choose OSI but not Internet (based on TCP/IP).
|> 

I have an impression (maybe wrong) that OSI has a very `good' concept, but
it is very hard to implement all the stuff in OSI. I would like to see
TCP/IP is available as an option in China, even if the underlining
networking stuff is based on OSI. We all know what a wonderful thing the
Internet is. Do we have a similar network based on OSI, which is as widely
available as the Internet?


H.J.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wzhuang@cs.dal.ca (Wendy Huang)
Subject: exchange rate?
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:04:57 GMT

Could anybody in the net tell me the current exchange rate between
Canadian Dollar (or US Dollar) and RMB Yuan in Shanghai black market?
And also Japenese Yuan and US Dollar?
Thanks a lot.

W.H.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: CCTV
Reply-To: xi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:40:45 GMT

Watched few days CCTV program through XiaoErDuo (little ear, sattelite 
dish), they are so good. The only problem is only one hour. I will try
ZhongErDuo (another sattelite), has anybody viewed that?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zhuh@athena.mit.edu (Hui Zhu)
Subject: Re: Toycot
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:43:23 GMT

In article <93Jan05.192754.22623@acs.ucalgary.ca>, zhang@acs.ucalgary.ca (Youping Zhang) writes:
|> >>I was trying to say that the people in Toycot are really doing harm 
|> >>to China, knowingly or not.  
|> 
|> 
|> Can anybody tell me who these Toycot people are and why they do it?  Are
|> there any Chinese among them? If yes which organization do they belong to?
|> Thanks in advance.
|> 
|> YPZ

According what Lin Mimi(what a name:)), the toy bitch, once posted on SCC, 
those toy people include the infamous D-f Shen Tong, and formal refugee 
Fang Lizhi, etc.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china