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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Swl Radio
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:47:32 -0600

Hi ya'll!  I plunked down my cash and came home with a DX-390 this week.
I looked at the Sangean 818CS? (the one with the tape recorder), the
Panasonic RF-B65 and a Sony.  I am real happy with my new toy and have
been having a lot of fun.  I like the little larger size also as I tend
not to toss things around so easily as when they are lighter and 
smaller.  My little portable radios have taken more of a beating.  
Thanks to each of you who responded with helpful suggestions and tips.
What are some of your favorite frequencies and why?  I have the WRTH
and Passport etc. books and have found them helpful and interesting.
Here's to many hours of facinating listening!

 * Origin: HAM>link< RBBS 612/HAM-0000 Saint Paul, MN (K0TG) (1:282/100)

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From: gpayne@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory A. Payne)
Subject: SW Stations Broadcasting from Yugoslavia?
Keywords: Yugoslavia, SW
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:12:54 GMT

I am looking for frequencies of any shortwave broadcast (in english)
from Yugoslavia...Sorry if this question has been asked before..Thanks

gpayne@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: BBC World Service SW Frequencies please
Summary: bbc world service, soccer
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:38:21 GMT
Reply-To: meenanp@esvax.dnet.dupont.com
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster


A friend of mine who is in the Philadelphia/Delaware area of the US
is looking for SW frequencies of the BBC World service, specifically
so he can pick up sports programmes and in particular live football (soccer)
on Saturdays.  If anyone has any information could they e-mail him direct
as he cannot get access to this newsgroup.  His address is

	meenanp@esvax.dnet.dupont.com

Thanks in advance.
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From: gkd@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Gregory K Doerschler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: GE SR-II vs. GE SR-III
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:58:24 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

The discussion on this newsgroup about the GE SR-II and the SR-III has
been quite interesting.  Not being an owner of either radio at present,
can someone post a concise comparison of features for the two?
(Comments about performance also welcome.)

                                            Greg
From: harold@radio.wkar.msu.edu (Harold Beer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Medium Wave QSLing
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:39:39 GMT
Organization: Broadcasting Services, Michigan State University

In article <4455.408.uupcb@the-matrix.com> scott.smith@the-matrix.com (Scott Smith)  writes:
....stuff deleted....
>Subject: Medium Wave QSLing
>If I might ask a dumb question, but, is it possible to receive a
>QSL card from a domestic, United States radio station?  I mean, I
...stuff deleted...
>I guess my question is more of wondering if they would even reply
>to my reception report?  And, should I include an SASE or some
>other compensation?

As Chief Engineer of an Medium Wave radio station, I'll assure you that we 
always respond to reception reports.  Our routine is to send confirmation of 
the QSL, a boilerplate letter, and a couple of station trinkets (bumper 
stickers or something).  Occasionally, the listeners are quite distant.

The SASE is thoughtful, and may help prompt an otherwise reluctant station 
to mail out something.  Because we don't receive them by the thousands, I 
don't expect to be a big deal for most stations.

I'd expect better response from a non-commericial station.  They're used to 
responding to listeners.... Can't speak for the for-profits.

Harold Beer
Chief Engineer
WKAR Radio
Michigan State University  .....harold@radio.wkar.msu.edu...........
From: dielle@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jeff Dielle)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:21:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Radio South Africa - Frequencies wanted
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave

I have been hearing Radio Orion in Northern California with good signals
starting as early as 0200 on 4810.  The format is mostly pop music with
announcements in both English and Afrikaans.  At 0300 the station
appears to go all Afrikaans (Maybe this is Radio Suid-Afrika.).

  Jeff Dielle
  dielle@corp.hp.com
From: wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: December PopComm Bingo Card?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 10:54:43 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Just out of curiosity... My December '92 issue of PopComm arrived with no
business-reply-mail "bingo" card in it to circle ad numbers on. I was
wondering if other people out there who subscribe to PopComm got 
their issues with or without a bingo card. That is, was my issue just
a printer's error, or have they discontinued the bingo cards, or did
they drop them from this issue as a test-market experiment, or what?

Regards, Will
wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil OR wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil
From: jack.mcgee@ehbbs.hou.tx.us (Jack Mcgee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Messages
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:44:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: ehbbs.450.799.uupcb
Reply-To: jack.mcgee@ehbbs.hou.tx.us (Jack Mcgee)
Distribution: world
Organization: Ed Hopper's BBS - Berkeley Lake, GA - 404-446-9462

Have the amount of messages in this group dwindled to next to nothing,
or is there a problem getting mail to this board?  I have seen about 2
messages in this conference in the last two weeks.

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From: irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine)
Subject: Superradio III Dealers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:05:04 GMT


I am posting this for my father.  He wants to know where
he can get a SR3 receiver (a SR2 would do also).

Anyway I saw an ad by Chilton Pacific Ltd. for $54.95 + $8 S/H

Anyone know of a better deal?

Thanks in advance!  Go ahead and E-mail unless there is
sufficient net interest.

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From: "bradley grigor" <bradley.grigor@canrem.com>
Subject: Setting time in Sangean radios
Reply-To: "bradley grigor" <bradley.grigor@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:45:59 EST


  In article <1eimu7INNlfo#crcnis1.unl.edu> jep@unlinfo.unl.edu (joseph panarelli) writes:

>"bradley grigor" <bradley.grigor@canrem.com> writes:

>>That problems seems to be endemic to the recent Sangean models
>>(ATS-808, ATS-818 aka DX-390, etc.).  Really awkward and quite
>>surprising in this day and age.  I wonder how that slipped by
>>their designers??

>     Here's what you can try (if you have another SW):  Remove all
>     of the main batteries, remove one of the memory backup batteries.
>     With the second radio tuned to a time signal, replace the final
>     memory backup batter about a second before the minute beep.
>     This will start the clock at the proper second.  It works for my
>     DX-380, however I can't speak for the 390/818.

Well, it sounds like that procedure would work, albeit somewhat
clumsily.  It's too bad one has to resort to it. :-) BTW, thanks
for the warning about the potential battery shorting.

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From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Who says the cold war is over!?!?
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:35:18 GMT
	<lgl4noINNajl@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM>
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: kariba.bbn.com
In-reply-to: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM's message of 18 Nov 1992 19:01:12 GMT


   >> Which reminds me - I saw an ad in IEEE Spectrum where Radio Free
   >> Europe/Radio Liberty is trying to hire an engineer.  Haven't they
   >> heard the cold war is over?
   >
   >Over for now. There are still 10 million people living under communisim
   >in China.



Since RFE/RL don't broadcast to China, the point is somewhat
irrelevant. What exactly *is* the mandate of these two stations now
that their target audience has free access to news & information?
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: medha@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (keshav.havnurkar)
Subject: BBC news on NPR
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:27:29 GMT

Hi
I have moved from California to new Jersey recently and 
currently I do not have my shortwave radio ( have to do with an AM/FM one )
I used to listen to BBC news re-broadcasted from NPR on FM (88.5 in Bay area
California ). I am trying to findout the local equvivalent of this station
in New Jersey area. I could get to radio stations one at 89.3 Mhz and another
one at 91.? Mhz but could not get when they broadcaste BBC service.

Can somebody help with this ?

Thanks
keshav

keshav@mhcnet.att.com
From: 9210466@ul.ie
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Loooooonnnnnnng Antenna
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:30:04 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

In article <01GR1J4IC2EA003GRI@EKU.BITNET>, STUSTARNES@EKU.BITNET (Alexander saw the breath of his domain and wept for there were no more worlds to conquer) writes:
> I am thinking about string an antenna up at my granmothers farm. I can
> put the antenna up between a very large tree and my grandmothers house.
> The antenna would be about 200 feet long and clear the ground at about
> 30 - 35 feet. I was wondering if this was a good idea. If so, what
> kind of wire should I use. If not, why?
> 
>                                                         Richard
>                                                         New at this

First of all if planned properly you will get excellent results..
Take directivity into account as the longer the wire gets the more
sensitivity you will lose from the side lobes..
Our local radio club here went on an expedition to a offshore
isalnd here on the west coast of Ireland, and we used a 500meter
longwire firing towards the Middle east and the results were outstanding.
We used aluminum fencing wire and it seemed to hold quite well.

-John
9210466@ul.ie   University of Limerick, Ireland.
EI8HQ(N4UXP).
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From: turini@gdls.CSCTMD.COM (Bill Turini - CSC @ GDLS)
Subject: Are there "reasonable quality" radios under $100
Keywords: radios, SW
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp. @ General Dynamics
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:05:25 GMT

Sorry if this question has been posted before, but I don't frequent this
group:

I travel quite a bit, and I end up working a lot in hotel rooms at night. I 
would like to listen to the radio (both BBC and FM) while I am working, (I'm
not a big fan of TV) but most hotels either don't supply radios or the one
they do supply is so bad it's not worth listening to.

Is there a small radio that is available that has reasonable performance and
covers the FM and some SW bands in the less than $100 range?

I have read the posts concerning the < $200 range, and if nothing else is
available will get a DX-440.

Thanks in advance.

Bill

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker)
Subject: Financial news and stock quotes SW programs?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 14:43:22 GMT


Are there any financial news/stock quote programs on shortwave that I
can receive on the east coast?  Prefer an all-day all financial news
station than just tuning into a half-hour summary program, but hey...
I'll try anything at this point.

Any SW broadcasts from Wall Street in New York.  Boy THAT would be
ideal.

- Hacker

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From: aa640@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Neil Parks)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Sony antenna--was Re: info request
Date: 24 Nov 1992 05:57:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa640@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Neil Parks)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, SUBRAMAT@ETSU.BITNET (thiagarajan subramanian) says:

I am a graduate student at the East Tenneessee State University in
>Johnson City, TN,USA.
>
>I am looking for a replacement of my broken telescopic antenna of
>SONY ICF 7600 DS (ASIAN MODEL). I enquired at my local Radio-Shack
>but they did not have any spare for that. Where can I find it ?
>


Look in your local Yellow Pages and see if there is an authorized Sony
repair center in your area.

If not, maybe you'll have to send the radio to the nearest big city to
get it fixed.


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:24:59 CST
Reply-To:     kirk baxter <KB06810@UKANVM.BITNET>
From:         kirk baxter <KB06810@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      ftp sites

On Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:22:38 GMT you said:
>Is there a FTP site where one can get frequency lists from?
>
>I'm most interested in 'major' broadcasters - ie. Radio Moscow,
>Radio Netherlands, Radio Peking etc.
>
>Terry

Terry,
   FTP to nic.funet.fi  (128.214.6.100).  They have a multitude of
shortwave schedules in /pub/dx/schedules.

   There is an additional server at vmsserv at arecibo.aero.org, where
some files like the BBC are also at.  Send a help message to vmsserv to
get a full command summary.

    Hope this helps.

Kirk Baxter
From: wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re:  Portable SW recommendations around $200
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:53:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.9211171653.AA11677
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

>Believe it or not, you might check your local pawn shops for extra-good
>deals on shortwave radios.
>A lot of high-dollar radios were sold new during "Desert {Shield|Storm}"
>to folks who really didn't understand what they were buying.  So a lot of
>those radios are hitting the pawn-shops (the economy has contributed to
>the recent popularity of pawning).
>Won't take long to look, and you might just find something at a bargain!
>Carter R. Bennett, Jr.

What sort of bargain prices have you (or anyone else on the list) found
at pawn shops for SWL radios? My experience with pawn shops here in the
St. Louis area has been that their "for sale" prices for just about
anything have been way out of line and unjustifiably high for used
merchandise with no warranty from a source with no support or expertise
in the specific field. This includes electronics, tools, guns, and
anything else I ever looked at. Maybe they expect you to haggle and the
actual price will be a lot less than the initial or marked price, but
I'm just not up to that hassle...

This experience has essentially discouraged me from even looking any
more, but it might be worth trying again if there really are some decent
radios to be found there...

About the only approach I could envision to take a used-equipment list
from one of the recognized dealers in the field, like Universal Radio,
show it to the pawnshop operator, and tell him you'd be willing to pay
some percentage of the used-gear price shown on that list, since that is
a source from a knowledgeable dealer who has checked out the gear, while
the pawnshop stuff is as-is. Of course, the pawnshop guy has never heard
of Universal Radio (or EEB, or any of the other firms we know about), so
his reaction is likely to be to tell one to take this Xeroxed list and
stuff it... 

I wonder what source he uses to tell him what to lend on a radio that
someone brings in. After all, is he likely to know the difference
between a Sony 2001 and 2010, and what the original retail and common
selling prices were? Are there information sourcebooks they use for
this? Or is it all by guess and experience?

Regards, Will
wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil OR wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil
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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:15:00 CST
Reply-To:     Dave Ulrick <A01DGU1@NIU.BITNET>
From:         Dave Ulrick <A01DGU1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      National NC303 receiver

My dad just picked up a big and heavy National NC303 ham receiver
at a vintage hi-fi and audio show near Chicago.  From the outside,
it looks great.  It uses a cylindrical slide-rule dial; when you
switch bands, a new slide rule comes into view.  Pretty neat!
Unfortunately, when he got it home and powered it up about all
he could hear were some heterodynes.  He wasn't sure which bands
to try (it has only the ham bands--no SW broadcast bands, unless
you count 40m), so I suggested 20m (14 Mhz, right?).  Does anyone
have any idea what this rig wants for an antenna?  I'm sure it's
not as sensitive as my DX440, so I suggested a *long* wire.  He's
playing with it in his basement, which seems to be OK for shortwave;
I was playing with an old Zenith console's SW bands down there
just a couple of weeks ago, and heard a lot of the major
broadcasters.  If the rig is broken, is it worth the trouble for
him to fix it?  If so, do you know where he could find a service
manual?

Thanks,
Dave
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: say@monashee.sfu.ca (Daniel Say)
Subject: Where is Oler's propagation reports?
Summary: Asking why Gary Oler hasn't posted any STD solar reports to rrx
Keywords: Gary Oler Propagation Solar Terrestrial Disturbance Activity
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:05:02 GMT

Where is Gary Oler's Solar-Terrestrial Dispatch on the ionospheric
conditions of the day?
There hasn't been one for several days here.  And only the weekly
forecast and report for the second week of November.
From: aj234@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Woolard)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: SSB Activity
Date: 22 Nov 1992 23:05:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I am a novice at SW listening and need some help. Where will I find any
SSB LSB/USB activity in the Cleveland Ohio area. Any help for a beginner 
would be helpful. I have a Heathkit 7800. So far it seems to be a fine 
radio.

Dave...


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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Re: Medium Wave QSLing
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:08:50 GMT

Your letter will have to be a little more explicit than usual, so as
to make sure they understand what you're wanting, but generally, medium
wave stations are delighed to hear from listeners a long way away.
(KDKA Pittsburgh actually sent me a Xerox copy of a 30-page booklet
about their station's history, and Cuban stations have sent me banners
and bumper stickers.)  

Expect a verification letter or other souvenirs rather than a QSL card.

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From: Bruce@Pixar.com (Bruce Perens)
Subject: Who says the cold war is over!?!?
Organization: Pixar -- Point Richmond, California
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:56:58 GMT

In article <1dqa3qINN66q@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim  
Haynes) writes:
> 
> Which reminds me - I saw an ad in IEEE Spectrum where Radio Free
> Europe/Radio Liberty is trying to hire an engineer.  Haven't they
> heard the cold war is over?

Over for now. There are still 10 million people living under communisim
in China.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:53:23 -0600
Reply-To:     dube@CPDVAX.CSC.TI.COM
From:         dube@CPDVAX.CSC.TI.COM
Subject:      MC3362/3 based receiver

Joe Jesson posted an article about using the MC3362/3 in a receiver circuit.
Joe, could you post the schematic?

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: huopio@lut.fi (Kauto Huopio)
Subject: Re: info on funet
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:57:33 GMT
Disclaimer: Opinions expressed below are writers own.
Peruutus: Mielipiteet ovat omiani.
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

In article <SWL-L%92111518505331@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU> thiagarajan subramanian <SUBRAMAT@ETSU.BITNET> writes:

> hi

> i am connected to the bitnet. I used file transfer protocol to the
> nic.funet.fi through bitftp at princeton.

> when i received the files rnetherlands.txt and rsa-s92.skd.
> it was not in ascii format. I donot know it is in what format may be binary
> or  .exe .

> can any of you help me to get intelligible info out of it.

They are both in ASCII format. I guess that the problems is with
BITFTP. 

--Kauto
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