Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: RE: Helping Afghans
From: yea027@marshall.wvnet.edu
Date: 12 Dec 92 08:37:45 -0500
Organization: Marshall University

>Lady , get real. I wish it all stopped with wearing hijab. 

It doesn't all stop there, but for a woman it does all start there.

>Do you know before
>Gulbudin destroyed Kabul TV antenna women broadcasters were banned. Really 
>as a women you should not be concerned about hijab. You should be concerned
>about the millions of your abused sisters who are raped, carried away, sold
>like commodity and used as object of sex and labour on daily basis in 
>Afghanistan. 
This is the reason we need real Islam brother.  I couldn't tell you thing
number one about Gulbudin, Rabani or the next Ahmad or Mahmoud who gets up to
run his mouth.  I'm saying indeed we do need Islam in our country, Islam in
it's pure sence where women are not put down but considered the equal to men. 
Before the eyes of Allah we are all equal and teh only thing the differenciates
us is our Iman.

>When I was in Pakistan and the Jihad front was warm, Mr.Khalis,
>a seventy year old man, married a sixteen year old girl with no shame that 
>the poor girl was fit to be his daughter. While I was in Pakistan, educated
>Afghan women, who tried to participate in Jihad by working in Afghan hospitals
>or in the refugee tents had acid thrown into their faces by your Ikhwani, 
>Wahabi and Jamiatee brothers.

Then Pakistan, along with Iran, and Afghanistan and any other country that
considers itself Muslim needs to make some serious changes.

> This is what they think of women. Recently women
>were banned from working in government offices ( what a mockery to call the 
>present set up as a government ) and the modern city of Kabul, overnight, 
>transformed into a scence from dark ages.
Neither does Kabul need to be "modern" as we see in the West nor a scene from
the dark ages.  If and when our people follow true Islam (by our people I mean
all Muslims) we will have the most advanced society the world knows.  I heard
one scholar say, "You cannot be a Muslim and not be a scientist".  Islam does a
great deal in helping us advance our minds whether we have western technology
or not.
> If you think that you, as an Ikhwani
>women, will be treated differently you are very much mistaken.
Gack!  Please don't label me.  I don't remember saying I was an Ikhwani or
anything else.  I'm a Muslim.

> Where are you
>guys going with all this fanaticism. The whole world is progressing in an 
>unbelievable speed and here is some idiots who want to role us back into the
>dark ages.
Pleeeeeeeeeeease!!!!!!!  I knew it would come down to this.  If you are a
Muslim and you want to follow Islamic ideals, you are a fanatic and the world
has no place for you.  Give me a break.  It's bad enough the west calls us
Muslims fanatics, I don't need my own brother calling me the same thing.  The
world WOULD NOT go backwards if TRUE Islam was implemented.  If you would quit
associating me with this group or that, you would see what _I_ want is true
Islam. Islam of the scholar. Islam of the scientist.  Islam of the most
educated people on Earth.  I will be the FIRST to ask for the woman's right to
get education because women are the one who decide society by raising the
children.

> Women, Afghan women have right to work, to participate in the 
>govenrment, to stand for their rights, to dress ( yes, within the limits of 
>Islamic decency) as they please.
Ok, with this I agree.

> Some old nut cases in Kabul are not going to
>tell our women what to do or not to do.
Good, let's not let the nut cases, but do let our Muslim leaders.  If a gov't
is Islamic, then it's laws are from the Quran.  If it is implementing Islamic
laws, then the woman's dress as well as the man's dress is all explained by
Quran and sunna.
> The daughters of the so called Peshawar
>leaders are keeping up with the latest fashion in Paris and London and then 
>appear in BBC and VOA and speak of Hijab. Afghans are a naturally free and
>outspoken nation ( shair shan band na mesha) and they would not hesistate
>to expose this double standard play acted for Afghan women. 
Amen!  I think hypocrits deserve to be revealed and dealt with justly.

>Pray tell us who this Khalifa is going to be. Oh no, not again. I hope 
>I am wrong. Could it be that you are talking about Gulbudin ? here
>we go again. 

Go again with what?  I think Gulbudin has rights like any other Mujahid who has
faught in Afghanistan.  I have never been his follower.  To tell you the truth,
I know very little about Afghanistan's little rulers except none of them have
shown me real Islam yet.
Good grief.  you are certainly hostile.  This whole letter has made me laugh to
think number one, I've been labled an Ikhwani and number two, I'm all of the
sudden a supporter of Gulbudin. :^)  I'm neither, though I do support Ikhwanis
that follow the true path of Islam and I've seen those and they are good, kind,
loving people just like our Prophet SAAWS.
No, Gulbudin won't be our Khalifa, but like I have mentioned in another post, I
could see an Afghan Khalifa.   Stop labeling please.  I have so much tolerance
before I start labeling you too. :^)  Just kidding.  Brother, I am your sister. 
I don't like discord among Muslims especially among Afghans.  You have a right
to your opinions as I have a right to mine.  Personally, to tell you the truth,
I think Islam might be blossoming from right here in America as we have new
reverts who follow the religion not the cultures of the east.  I'm not a
fanatic though I believe strongly in adhereing to Islam and I will always voice
the words of Islam where I see fit.

Salam 
Mariam

>H.Abed
ps do you have a first name? :^)