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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:08:00 EST
From:         WERT7176@SNYPLAVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: punk rock stuff

Date sent:  17-DEC-1992 13:42:27
>From:  IN%"ALLMUSIC@AUVM.BITNET"  "Discussions on all forms of Music" 16-DEC-19
   92 12:36:38.54
>To:    IN%"BEHR5606@SNYPLAVA.BITNET"  "Behr 5606", IN%"CRAIGHM@SNYPLAVA.BITNET"
     "HARRIETTE CRAIG", IN%"SHEP3686@SNYPLAVA.BITNET"  "CHRIS SHEPPARD", IN%"TRI
   C6536@SNYPLAVA.BITNET"  "Vincenzo A. Tricozzi", IN%"WERT7176@SNYPLAVA.BITNET"
     "Ben Werth"
>CC:
>Subj:  RE: punk rock stuff

>Glad to hear it, Ben. I called you a poser because sometimes it's better to
>fight fire with fire. I'm glad you finally decided to talk about punk/hardcore.
>Tell us more. Who's doing what locally, in your area? Any indie/DIY stations,
>labels, or producers? There's a thriving DIY thread here on ALLMUSIC; several
>of us are reviewing independently-produced tapes for a indie 'zine. I'm
>trying right now to establish a indie/DIY show on the radio station I volunteer
>at. Not all of this music is punk/hardcore, by any stretch, but there's a lot
>of crazy stuff out there. Some good stuff, too.
>
>You saw Fugazi? What'd you think of 'em?
>
>This is more like it. Merry Christmas, & all that...
>
>David


It feels good not to have everyone against me.  Right now I'm up in
Plattsburgh going to school, and let me tell ya there ain't nothin' punk
about this place.  If there's a hardcore/punk scene in Shittsburgh it's
fuckin' ten feet underground and the people don't come out much.  There are
usually shows over in Burlington VT, and that's only an hour a way so I
hitch hike over there quite often.  Burlington has a really good scene
going.  The Champions are Burlington' hardcore heroes.  They've been around
for about 2 years and have a 6 song demo out (which is really great) and a
3 song 7" out on Unique Records.  They play out alot and I'd give you
Simons (the singer) number but his phone got disconected.  There's a couple
other hardcore bands over there:  Twelve Times Over, Epitaph, Color Blind
and lot's of other types of "alternative" bands.  As far as zines go
there's two that I know about:  Rapid Fire which really isn't geared
towards any type of music, and Moo Cow.  Moo Cow has interviews and reviews
and other shit.  The other scene that I can tell you about is the Syracuse
scene.  Syracuse is my hometown scene and it's a thriving one.  My friend
John puts on shows every 2 or 3 weeks there.  Bands:  There are a lot of
bands in Syracuse and the surrounding area's.  Drazel are one of my
favorites.  They're from my hometown (Oswego) and are truly and inspiration
to see play.  They play way powerful melodic punk that just makes you want
to dance, dance, dance the night away.  Earth Crisis is another great band.
They play extremely powerful hardcore with screaming vocals.  They have a
7" out on Conviction records which is a label run out of Syracuse by my
friend Guav.  I'd love to talk about Syracuse all day but they're kickin'
everyone off the computers so I'll have to get back to you on it.  I'm
goin' home tomorrow so I won't be writing in for about a month.  I'm sure
your all thrilled about that.

Turn your frowns upside down,
ben

PS- Fugazi was really great, but I'll have to get back to you.
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