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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Gleanings (74
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:39:39 GMT
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In a previous article, PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU ("Judith E. Schrier") says:

>Makes me wonder what my children will remember about me...

That you couldn't take tea with your 'ead tucked underneath your arm?:-)

>>Akio Tanaka/11 Jan 93 (Oh, before I forget, Akemashite Omedeto Gozaimasu,
>>or Happy New Year)
>And thank you very much for the lovely card!

Same here!  Thank-you especially for the stamps on it, too - this house has
a stamp junkie in it....:-) [my father]

>>10) "No atheists in foxholes" truism (Judith S.)
>
>There is a belief that people who are in great danger or trouble
>will turn to God, no matter what they think they believe. This
>is often stated as "There are no atheists in foxholes."
>
I've heard it's true in car wrecks too, from ambulance workers.  
Apparently you can take the kid out of the religion, but the old reflexes
stay put in the kid.:-)  

Now for mine....

25)Black Widower tales - mystery short stories written by the late Isaac
Asimov.  Most of them appeared in various magazines, and almost all have
been collected into a series of books.  

33)Seymour Clay - named Seymour Cray, as in Cray Computers.  As in very
big, very powerful, and very fast mainframes.  I don't know what OS the 
things use....

34)Mel Blanc [Adjani] - As she hasn't answered, I will.  He used to be
the voice behind many Saturday Morning Cartoon charecters, including Porky
Pig, Donald Duck, and Bugs Bunny.
  
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From:         Fizzy the Fribble
              <fribble%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject: Re: Three-key Sequence Nonsense
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              93 11:43 pm

From the screen of 'Rashmi'...
> >         Neal is in Pittsburgh, but Rashmi is at Drexel which is in Philly.
> >         Alec Plotkin works in the metro Philly area I believe.
> > And Jenna will be there soon, and possibly our new friend Frizzy the
 Fribble,
> > not to mention our passing visitor ri<chough,splutter>chh.  Say, richh
 hasn't
>
> I don't understand - will Mr. Fizzy be in Philly?  If so, will he get here
> in time for Jenna's visit?
>

Yes, I am moving there RSN.

Fiz.
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Subject: Re: How to make me cringe...
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:14:07
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In-reply-to: Blue eyes cryin' in the rain's message of Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:41:00 EST

Neal shivers:

   Why, then, must he send a shiver up my spine every time he mispronounces the
   word 'nuclear'?  Why do so many learned people say 'nucular'?

I don't recall whether or not it was on our very own words-l or not, but I
recall hearing (reading) that this can be traced back to the beginning of
the Cold War.  I may be spouting fiction, but I seem to remember, hazily
mind you, that "nu-cu-ler" was how (geez, how embarrassing; I can't
remember who was Prez) Truman? said it.  I know it wasn't Ike, so I'll take
Truman for $500 please, Alex.  So, how he said it on t.v. was how a
kajillion people learned to mispronounce it. 

Anyone else heard anything remotely similar?  

   //anne, thinking how similarly distasteful "Eye-talian" and "waRsh" are//
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        Thanks, Uncle Brad, for the wifty-scrabble connection!
           --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
Oh come on, we're not *all* falling for that one Brad!

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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gleanings (74)
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>         Welcome back, Akio!!  You've been missed.
>
Yes you were missed, Akio, and thanks for the Christmas card, which
my daughter, who is studying Japanese, was delighted to see.  She
couldn't read it, thought, because she hasn't learned that kind of
script yet.
.
> >31) Bill Swerski (Neal)
>
>         Anyway, when Chicago sports icon Mike Ditka was fired as coach of Da
>         Bearsss, I suggested that SNL would use the occasion for a Swerski
>         skit.  I was right, but didn't get to see it myself -- I *think* they
>         used it to open the show.  The only reason I know they did the skit is
>         that George Wendt (Norm on Cheers, and a semi-regular Swerski
>         participant) was wandering around the stage while Danny DeVito filled
>         the last 15 seconds at the end of the show.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> neal    traven@pittvms                  Bitnet          412-624-0097 (office)

They did it, for sure, and it was a read *dud*!!!  Moved too slowly
and went on for too long.  Even at their best, these skits are
sort of dud-y, I think.  Occasional bits of subtle humor, but I
don't like them very much.  Being with the *real* game-fans at
the Pawtucket stadium was a lot funnier.  That made me laugh a
lot (alot), often and loud.  I still smile thinking about it.
:-)   :-)
--ggs
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 12:02:42 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      One More File
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abh.and.tabloids ("and then the naked ladies came"), length: 1740, has
been added to Travelogues/.  But we're still missing lots and lots of
the abh collection.  She doesn't have copies of most of them.  I'm hoping
somebody else does.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject: Re: Unusual weddings

Unusual places to get married?  Ann and I got married in a synagogue.
That was unusual for us then, because neither of us had been in a
synagogue in years, and it felt very strange to "get with [a] program"
a lot older than we were.  Considering what happened, it's miraculous
we've been back since.

The rabbi, a young, late-Sixties sort of Mr. Cool, wanted to turn the
thing into the biggest event since Moses parted the Red Sea.  We kept
saying "Make it short, legal, and Jewish."

Judaism has a document called a Ketubah, a marriage contract, which we
had to sign before the ceremony.  As a legal contract, it has to be
witnessed by two Jews.  One of our witnesses was a Gentile: we didn't
know the rule and the rabbi didn't ask.  Years later, when I found
out, I was mildly horrified.  At our rabbi's house one night two years
ago, I mentioned it to him.  He pointed at Ann, then turned to me.

"You've had sex with her, right?"

I'm turning scarlet....  "Yeah, a couple of times..."

"Mazel tov, you're married."  Our kids were 12 and 9 at the time....

For the grand finale, two weeks after the wedding, Ann's mother
called.  The rabbi who'd married us had been fired the day before.
Why?  He and his wife were having marital difficulties, and one of the
difficulties spilled out onto the lawn of the parsonage house they got
from the community.  They were having a shouting match on the lawn; it
escalated into a fistfight, and climaxed (well, not exactly...) with
the woman throwing her wedding ring in her rabbi-husband's face and
storming out.  In a small town on Eastern Long Island, such goings-on
did not cut it....

For years we were convinced we'd find out, two children later, that
the guy was a Satanist and that the marriage wasn't legal either
civilly or religiously.  Our present rabbi put our minds at ease.:-)

Ken
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From:         ann mandi <AMM@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      calling senor cepeda
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Hey, blomberg, are you out there?  Your baseball buddies are looking
for you, trying to set up the expansion draft.  Call or send mail to
Larry Mc or Randall asap, or send me a phone number where Randall can
call you.

PS, hello to all the rest of you words-lers, I'm still here lurking,
just barely keeping up with the mail, not much time to talk.

ann mandi
bitnet:  AMM@BROWNVM     internet:  AMM@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU

'No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball.'
-- Connie Mack
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:20:50 GMT

In article <01GTE5GIZUJG9BVDWM@vms.cis.pitt.edu> Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU> writes:

>        What in the world are you doing here, woman?  Go back to your husband,
>        and get packed for that trip to Madrid!

	My husband (oh my god! the word!) had to go into work for a
few hours today because he broke one of the machines on Friday due to
nerves (he wrote over one of the partitions by accident or something
stupid like that, so now he has to restore it all from dumps).

	Nevertheless, I have washed all the hairspray out of my hair,
gotten most of the champagne out of the kitchen rug, and am getting
ready to go thankyou card shopping in Harvard Square.  I'm also making
a list of addresses for those who get postcards from Spain.  So if you
want one, speak up or forever hold your peace (Dan the One-Eye Potato
is at the top).

	I have about a 100 funny stories to tell about the weekend --
I spent most of it laughing.




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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:25:35 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Speaking of Ftp
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If any of you are planning to ftp files from here (ftp.msstate.edu or
isis.msstate.edu or ra.msstate.edu), don't plan on doing it between noon
Wednesday and Thursday afternoon.  We'll be down.  I would be screaming
and cussing about the upcoming downage except that I'm happy about the
additive surgery Ra and Isis will be undergoing.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Boston?
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:07:54 GMT

In article <199301101749.AA17318@ra.cs.umb.edu> jboor@RA.CS.UMB.EDU (Joan Boorstein) writes:

>I think Rita will only be in Spain a week to 10 days and she leaves
>Wednesday.

	I'll be in Spain until next Thurs., so any time after that is
fine with my schedule.  I think it would be *delightful* to go up to
Glocester, and it is very generous of Don and Paul to offer.  It's a
beautiful area.


>I doubt I can  be online at the time (6 PM EST) when Rita will be saying
>her vows, so I send my congratulations now.  Many happy and healthy years
>to Rita & Nico.

	Thanks!  I'm still a little stunned that we actually went
through with it.  But everything went suprisingly smoothly, despite we
were operating on the chaos principle.

Mrs. Czarina



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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 13:51:16 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      More Possible Croning Sites
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On my way back from the grocery store while ago, I started thinking of
other croning possibilities.  In addition to the ones already discussed
(Starkville, N.O., the River), I thought of Perdido Beach, Florida, and
the Huntsville, Alabama, vicinity.  Before getting into those, let's go
back to the river idea.  I kind of like that one.  The only reason I
haven't said much about it is that I'm not sure what there is to say.
Renting something like the Delta Queen to have a floating croning would
probably be difficult at this late date.  I'm not sure that any floating
gathering would be easily doable -- although if somebody else can arrange
one, I'm all for it.  If we want to gather on the river bank somewhere,
where?  Natchez?  Vicksburg?  Greenville?  Memphis?  As I said, I like
the river idea fine, but I have no suggestions to offer.

Perdido Beach occurred to me because some of you might be in the mood for
a beach break in mid March and the idea of a midnight croning on a beach
appeals to me.  I thought of Perdido Beach in particular because Bernard
*might* be able to go there and because I *might* be able to provide free
lodging for a very limited number of people.  (Same for Starkville, of
course -- *VERY* limited.)  Perdido Beach is just across the Alabama line.
Air transportation would be a problem.  Without looking at a map, I'm
guessing that the closest airport of any size at all is Mobile.

The other idea is outside of Huntsville, Alabama.  If you have a detailed
map of Alabama, look for a small town named Gurley.  The advantages would
be that I could guarantee us an outside site of many acres of privacy and
that the scenery around there is pretty if you like tiny mountains (or
large hills).  Air transportation to Huntsville would be moderately easy,
but local transportation would be a problem.

Are y'all weighing all these plans?  I still want to know who's really
thinking about coming?

N.O. and Perdido Beach have the advantage of offering things to do during
the non-croning hours -- N.O. offering city types of things, Perdido beach
types of things.  The other places have their special appeals but offer less
to do during the off hours.  It happens that there's an MSU baseball schedule
in today's Starkville Daily News.  I was hoping there might be a game here
that weekend, but alas there's not.  The closest home games to March 19 are
March 17 and March 23.  I would, of course, have a party at my house if we
end up here.

Summary.  Suggested sites so far for March 19 croning:

Starkville, Mississippi
New Orleans
Somewhere on the Mississippi River
Perdido Beach, Florida
Near Huntsville, Alabama
Stockholm?
Others?

   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Baseball
Date: 12 Jan 1993 22:15:13 GMT
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In a previous article, DTHORNTN@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Don Thornton) says:

>Think of the feeling of superiority the pitcher of the easy pitch would
>have if the batter misses or flys out.
>
That's what I was thinking.  It's the bottom of the 8th, and the pitcher's
team is ahead 14-1. There's no way the other team can win.  So what the
hell, throw the batter - who's struck out twice so far - something a high
school kid couldn't miss and see what happens.  If the guy misses *this*,
he deserves to lose.:-)  

Sometimes the temptation to give the other guy a cheap shot just proves
overwhelming....  

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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:05:02 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: We who are about to die . . .

>Come on, List Parrot, eat a few crackers, read a few Words-L archive
>files, and breathe easy.
>
>doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)

Oh.  A voice.  A palpable voice.  A *familiar* voice.  I feel better already.
The braaawk is almost back in the bird.

:-}

brrphuugh

-Mka
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 6 Jan 1993 05:09:18 GMT
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In a previous article, dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith) says:

>> Hello Doris.  I thought premature senility was the province of us younger
>> types.  Guess not.:-)
>> --
>I think I've got a corner on this particular market - haven't noticed
>anyone else exhibiting signs of senility.  Even brother giggles is only
>forgetful in a convenient way.
>
You haven't lived with me, either.:-)  I'm one of those folks who will
put a book down, and ten seconds later wonder where I put it. Then I spend
another five minutes finding the dumb thing....  

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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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> You know, the "membership".  the patch and the special newsletter you get
> in the mail, and the discount coupons for the bookstore along with
> the words-L visa gold card offer...you know....
>
> oh.
>
> maybe you aren't a "member" either.
>
> never mind.
>
> Fluffy Steele

See, my intended double entendre is so out of character no one picked up
on it.  Hmmmmm.  I'll go back to stapling finals together.
doris
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Three-key Sequence Nonsense
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> original IBM PC and the PC XT have ten F keys in two columns to the
> left of the keyboard.  The PC AT and subsequent keyboards have
> 12 F keys in a row above the main keyboard.  There are various

I still wonder why keyboard-makers moved the F keys from the left to the
top.  When I discovered that no laptops seem to exist with F keys at the
left, I finally gave up and moved to top F keys for my regular computer
also, hoping that having F keys at the top on all the keyboards in my life
would make my fingers less confused when moving from keyboard to keyboard.
After a little more than a year now, I still *hate* the top F keys.  They
were so much more reasonable on the left -- I could hit WP and PCPLUS key
combinations without disrupting the flow by moving my hands off of the main
part of the keyboard and grappling around with keys stuck off by themselves
way up at the top.  Placement of F keys at the top will never make any
sense to me.  And yes, I had all 12 F keys on the left on my old keyboard.
Everything about the left placement made more sense to me.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: We who are about to die . . .
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From: "Ruth M. Hanschka" <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
> Go crawl into your coffin, Ausbrook; it'll save someone else the work.

I second the emotion.
Pm
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From:         Graham Toal
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Subject: Re: And then the naked ladies came
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:> > the man because men always get *sicker* than women. This is one reason
:>
:> She's right.  I think that men do get sicker than women.

:Well, they definitely whine a lot better than women.  :)

Sexist bastards, the lot of you.  Sniff sniff, whine whine :)

G
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Words-L Weekly Digest
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> >>I'm getting *sick* and *tired* of being left out of the Words-L
> >>Weekly Digest, *sick* and *tired* of it.  And I want it to stop,
> >
> >        Post something interesting, and maybe you'll merit mention in the
> >        W-LWD...
>
> There is a simple solution. Brad can merely say "Gilbert Smith posts."
> I don't see what the fuss is about. Why bring in the subjective notion
> of "interesting"?
>
> tushar

Oh, I like this solution.  I will look forward to reading it next
time.  I will, of course, be sure to "post".
Thanks, <ts>, you are a doll.
--ggs (and I just saw your picture once again, on my screen....)
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From:         "Ruth M. Hanschka" <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boston
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>
>>New Year's Day meal, only grandma Hanschka [nee Dietz] never taught my
>>mother how to do it.  So...kosher latkes replace kartoffelphankuchen...at
>>least this makes it easier to spell.:-)
>
>Oh, yeah. Latkes are *perfect* with Sauerbraten, or any other
>kind of pot roast, including pot-roasted chicken!

Heck, just dump real applesauce on mine - who needs the meat?:-)
The only other tradition for that dinner is something called Prune Whip,
which tastes a lot better than it sounds.  It's almost a souffle; I'll
track down the recipe if anyone's interested.....  It's not that hard to
make.[even my sister can do it :-) ]


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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:21:40 EST
From:         ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU
Subject:      Re: Baseball
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Posted on 12 Jan 1993 at 12:10:33 by torkel@SICS.SE
>1) why does your self-respect require that you come up with a simple pitch
>from time to time,

It just somehow seems inevitable!

and 2) how is this analogous to provoking somebody
>to violence as an alternative to getting away without being seen?

Both are deliberate acts with foreseeable negative consequences.

Karen