HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: siddiqi@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (Shahid Siddiqi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Moslems!
Date: 25 Dec 1992 12:57:15 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton VA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: tab00.larc.nasa.gov
II): christian v/s christian (pick the ones you

2)The south atlantic war in the 1980's : catholic
v/s protestant (Argentina's Malvina islands war
v/s Britain)

3) The horrible sitution in Mynamar/Burma should
be blamed to Buddhist culture????

4) If you view China as an oppressive government
is it because the main faith of the Chinese people
was Confucian/Buddhist??

Now lets add in some friendly country relations
and see if religious bonds are responsible:

1) US & Saudi Arabia - Christian & Moslem??????

2) US & other Persian Gulf Monarchies - Christian & Moslem??????

3) US & Israel - Christian & Jewis????
O
Such simplifications of the causes of conflict are
very anti-people. In the middle ages there were
"religious wars" but even then the ambition of
kings was the real cause.  In this century the
"religious conflicts" you list are all politically
caused conflicts in which a large number of people
of one religion or the other may be involved.
5)
So let me close by asking you then to find a nice
simplification based on religion for the
following:

When Babar invaded India in the 1500's the major
battle he fought was against the sultan of Delhi
for his kingdom: the sultan who opposed this
invader of India was Ibrahim Lodhi???

.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prastogi@netcom.com (Sentient)
Subject: Re: alt.culture.india.delhi.chanakyapuri.satya-marg
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:53:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.004036.8924@news.clarkson.edu> rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor) writes:
>From article <Dec.26.19.15.13.1992.8799@paul.rutgers.edu>, by varma@paul.rutgers.edu (not yet):
>> I would like to set up alt.culture.delhi.chanakyapuri.satya-marg
>> ( we could include nearby streets too, if people are for it). This
>> newsgroup will be to discuss our culture and literature  ... 
>
>... and the goings on at US Embassy ( or other embassies ) in
>Chanakyapuri...
>
>... also, the current movie playing at Chanakyapuri theatre...
>
>
>Rajat Kapoor
>
>sic.culture.fedup

The above group will also include the problems of 
passengers travelling to and fro in DTC 620
bus.

A Delhite...................






Anurag


-- 
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someone, or forbid your kids to do it.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: rk@hls.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Are you this person ? (Trip to Juarez for H1)
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:09:47 GMT

I had earlier saved the posting of a person from someone at Informix 
(someone@informix.com) who said he was looking for people looking to
making a trip to Juarez/El Paso. 

This person lives in Emeryville, Ca. His office work number has
area code 510.

I know this sounds silly. But I lost this person's address, phone
number and even forgot his name. If you are the person
reading this, could you pl contact me at rk@nms.hls.com
or give me a call at (415) 966-6167 ?

Thanx,

S Ramakrishnan
Hughes LAN Systems Inc., 
Mt View, Ca

(415) 966-6167, rk@nms.hls.com
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:42635 soc.culture.tamil:4766 soc.culture.indian.telugu:1528
From: ambati@acsu.buffalo.edu (Balamural K. Ambati)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Fun Mela 1/9/93
Date: 3 Jan 93 15:32:31 GMT
Distribution: ny
Organization: UB


 On January 9, 1993, The Hindu Temple on Holly & BowneSt. in Flushing, NYC
will be holding a "Fun Mela" for children of all ages (up to 12th grade).
Admission & Food is Free!

There will be numerous games for them to take part in and win prizes.
There will also be Spelling Bee, Jeopardy!, Math Bee, and various other
academic games.

All interested parties are invited.  We are also interested in having
some volunteers (that means you college students :) ).
Thank you.
Bala & Jayakrishna Ambati
(718) 464-9391
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Certificates from SCI folks...
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:29:16 GMT

My fellow sciers:

There are some refugees from elsewhere who out of an inferiority
complex apply the self test of asking us, the superior sci folk,
a certificate of merit, in spite of not having one such and 
incapable of one such. Be generous, oh! you gratious scier!
Throw that biscuit to them. Give them that certificate.
...kt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mrv@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (madhukar.r.vadyala)
Subject: India successfully tests rocket engines
Keywords: space, rockets
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:33:58 GMT

  NEW DELHI, India (UPI) -- India announced Monday that its scientists
have successfully tested all four propulsion stages of a powerful new
rocket whose launch will boost the country's military capabilities.

 The Indian Space Research Organization (ISRO) said the four separate
engine sets would now be fitted into the rocket, the Polar Satellite
Launch Vehicle (PSLV), for its scheduled launch next March.

 The PSLV, designed to place one-ton remote-sensing satellites into
orbit, is a successor to the Augmented Satellite Launch Vehicle (ASLV),
successfully launched last May after several abortive efforts.

 The PSLV is one of two powerful rockets that India is developing on
its own. The other is the Geostationary Launch Vehicle (GSLV), whose
planned development by 1996 will give India an undisputed
intercontinental ballistic missile (ICBM) capability.

 The United States last May slapped limited trade sanctions against
ISRO and Russia's Glavkosmos to discourage the two civilian space
agencies from going ahead with a $200 million deal involving the
transfer of sophisticated engine technology for the GSLV.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: msdesa01@orion.spd.louisville.edu (Mehul Desai)
Subject: AT&T Cancels Service to Pakistan!
Summary: Fradulent use forces AT&T to cancel Calling Card and third party calls 
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:47:19 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville
Keywords: AT&T, Calling Cards, Pakistan

Jan 02, 1993
	AT&T has started the new year with not such a nice beginning for        Pakistan.  Due to overwhelming fradulent use of calling cards and third party 
to Pakistan from the United States, AT&T is cancelling these services.  A com-  pany spoke'swoman said that there is always going to be illegal use of services offered by a communication company such as AT&T, but when the dollar amount     becomes overwhelming to a particular area, they are forced to take such action. It is not clear whether this will affect the direct-dialling services. MCI & 
U.S. Sprint are observing AT&T's move but have not indicated their intentions.
__________________
Source: News India, reprinted without permission.

Comments: Well! Well !  A very embarassing situation, don't you think, my dear
	  Watson! 



This follows close on the heals of a CNN report which suggests a recommendation
by some insiders in the Bush Administration to declare Pakistan a Terrorist State. 


Have a very happy new years fella's!
Mehul

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: From Ranchi with indigantion and caution
Followup-To: rec.humor,alt.tasteless,soc.culture.indian,alt.beer,alt.mud,alt.evil,alt.satanism,alt.forgery,alt.missing-kids,alt.kids-talk
Date: 2 Jan 1993 08:26:47 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

SibShankar writes:

>               Important notice from Ranchi Mental Health Center
>Two roommates from the mental health center escaped recently. Their names are
>Deepak Bose and Mustafa Ibrahim. They have seen to board AI and PIA flights


This is outrageous. Mustafa is a Pakistani citizen and I find
your attempts to keep him in captivity in Ranchi completely unacceptable.
What would AI (no, not Air India you fool) say if they found out. Another
'innocent Muslim' being tortured by Hindu zealots.

I suspect Pakistan has adequate mental health facilities of it's own and 
although I wouldn't like to see the inside of one, I suggest that we
immediately petition the Pakistani Consulate (a la Shymala Parameswaran 
and ask to speak to a 'higher up') and have a kicking and insolent Mustafa 
transported back there. Last time I checked the WHO had given the Pakistani
schizophrenic institutions a clean bill of health and they even had a UNIX
terminal with USENET access for 'inmate recreational purposes'. SCI had the
highest prisoner/newsgroup access ratio. Sridhar, is that correct?

Do I hear some laughter coming from Lawrence, Kansas?

Hey Fafat, Nishit I need you guys to help me activate that 'Deport Mustafa
fund'.  Satya, I need advice on filing for tax exempt status for the
fund. This after all, is a philanthropic venture no matter what it's 
connotations for improved subcontinental relations may be.

Oh I forgot to mention. Mustafa is reported to be armed and dangerous, so
if you see him, dont try to make an approach. Contact your local sheriff's
office or better yet, the SWAT team. Notify the HAZMAT people that they
might need to clean up afterwards. 

BTW is there an award for his capture? There really ought to be.
If there isn't, you had no business asking us to assist in the nabbing of 
a fugitive, even one that is a recluse from a mental facility.


Samit


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Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
From: hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Subject: Re:  Victory Day in Bangladesh!!!
Summary: Afraid of Islam...... 
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 21:57:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.184201.24132@ann-arbor.applicon.slb.com> gupta@mailhost.aa.cad.slb.com (Sanjay K. Gupta) writes:
>
>khaleq@brahms.udel.edu (Mohame Khalequzzaman) writes
>Subject: Victory Day in Bangladesh!!!
>>Only great minds can admit wrong-doing and are
>>capable of apologizing - like the Japanese apologized to Chinese and Korean
>>for their wrong-doing against those nations.
>>
>>Show your courage and greatness today to the Bangladeshi people by
>>apologizing for the atrocities organized by your previous generations.
>
>Really only great minds. Doesn't the same apply to you muslims in your relation
>to the Hindus? Doesn't Islam from Arab land owe an apology to all of us living 
>in Indian sub-continent whose culture and religion this ideology sought to 
>stifle and murder in the present day India and has already done it  in Pakistan
>and Bangladesh over a thousand year period.
>
>
>Sanjay K. Gupta
>

Dear Sanjay K. Gupta,

The good thing Islam did was take away the Nazi/Fascist religion of the Hindooswho today have all crawled inside their little closets, of course except for
Deepak (Kisses) Bose who is one of the few with some courage, on seeing the
western world's horror of what Nazis can do.

Also, Islam did its darn best to stop people drinking their or their cows
urine, but alas, was unable to stop your great PM Morarji Desai from advertising it with Barbara Walters.

If it was not for Islam there would be no Taj Mahal, no Deleep Kumar, no
Salman Khan, and no Pakistan to beat the Indians at Sharjah come this tournament. It may not be Miandaad this time who will give the Indians the BIG one to
take back with their tails betwen their skinny legs....  Keep guessing....


Best Regards,
Shams Hasan.
From: skaveti@ra.cs.umb.edu (Savita Kaveti)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: AIDS drug by indian firm
Date: 1 Jan 93 17:20:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston
Originator: skaveti@ra.cs.umb.edu

Article 1048 of misc.news.southasia:
From: ww%nyxfer@igc.apc.org (Workers World Service)
Newsgroups: misc.news.southasia
Subject: Indian Firm Produces Cheaper AIDS Treatment Drug
Date: 25 Dec 92 13:06:15 GMT
Organization: The NY Transfer News Service


Source  : The NY Transfer News Service 
Date    : Dec 24, 1992
Country : India

                              * * * *

* Indian company produces cheaper AZT

By Shishir Thadani

An Indian drug company recently announced it could produce the 
AIDS-treatment drug AZT and market it at one-quarter the cost 
charged to patients in the U.S. But Burroughs-Wellcome, which 
produces and sells AZT in the U.S., has moved to prevent 
pharmacies around the world from purchasing the Indian drug.

Burroughs-Wellcome has threatened the Indian company with a 
patent-violation lawsuit. But Indian patent laws are different 
from those in the U.S. Drugs cannot be patented in India; only 
the chemical processes used to manufacture drugs can be patented.

The Indian company has an original manufacturing process. In 
fact, a company spokesperson said the firm could compete in the 
U.S. market and thus begin higher-volume production.

The drug is already being produced and many Third World countries
have expressed interest in purchasing it. Some are considering 
setting up local manufacturing plants with the Indian company's 
assistance.

As a goodwill gesture, the Indian government has sent subsidized 
shipments of the drug to other Third World countries. Public 
health officials in Brazil, Thailand and some East African 
countries are following this development with great interest.

But the U.S. government and its imperialist allies in Europe and 
Japan are bringing tremendous pressure on the Indian government 
to change its more progressive patent laws to mirror those in the
U.S.

Washington's tight patent laws in particular retard technological
development and competition and hurt consumers. This is 
especially true in the health-care field, and in the case of AIDS
and other life-threatening illnesses this issue becomes a matter 
of life and death.

If the U.S. government succeeds in its effort to stymie Indian 
production of the drug, it would drastically increase the death 
rate because very few Indians are able to purchase drugs at the 
monopoly prices charged by the imperialist drug cartels.

Health care costs in the U.S. are astronomical, in large part 
because of the patent laws and trade restrictions against 
importing drugs from Third World countries. Shouldn't people with
AIDS in the U.S. also be permitted to benefit from technological 
developments taking place in India or any other Third World 
country?

                             * E N D *
   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: yab@cs.brown.edu (Yashesh Bhatia)
Subject: Re: DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:14:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.140020.14275@umiami.ir.miami.edu>, dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
|> 
|> 				MEMO
|> 				----
|> 
|> 
|> TO:	Deepak Bose, Deb Chatterjee, Mustafa Ibrahim, anonymous obscene posters,
|> 	others who post *really* obscene and offensive material
|> 
|> FROM:	D. Pereira and others,
|> 	Indignant and frustrated readers
|> 
|> REF:	DEADLINE TO STOP POSTING OFFENSIVE OR RACIST MATERIAL ON 
|> 	SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN
|> 
|> 
|> After Tuesday, January 5, 1992 at midnight, if I see *any* postings or replies



This should have been done long ago. 


Yashesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jaspreet@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Jaspreet Singh)
Subject: phd in mgmt
Keywords: phd in mgmt
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:02:58 GMT

 Hi there

I am looking for some info about a Phd in management ( finance, marketing etc.)
for my brother.  He has a BSEE from Delhi and is currently doing MBA
at FMS ( faculty of mgmt studies ) at Delhi.  Please let me know if your
school has a good phd program.  please respond to me directly at the email
address given below
Thanks


Jaspreet

jaspreet@ec.ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: This is: HOW TO GET THE BEST phone deal to India
From: C1935@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU (KAILASH JOSHI)
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 12:25:37 CST
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS
NNTP-Posting-Host: 134.124.1.2

 
The best deal for india is mci friends and family.  As three of you will
make more than two calls a month take the call World plan for $3 a month.
 
MCI permits unlimited changes in the international number.  So a day or so
before you make a call change the number to the needed one.  Incidentally
MCI now permits two international numbers.
 
I urge all netters to switch to mci. This will force ATT to reduce their rates.
Rates to India are very high in relation to celone, pakistan, bangla etc.
ATT is responsible for this.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vijays@vccnw09.its.rpi.edu (S. Vijayakumar)
Subject: Brahminism & Indian politics
Reply-To: vijays@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 22:41:27 GMT


Keywords: Mandal-Periyar

I strongly agree with the opinions of SANKARAPANDI, KATHIRAVAN, VISHNU
MEENON & yourself, Mr.M. Sundaramoorthy.
The Brahmins are dominating everything in INDIA. Even the BABRI MASJID
issue taken up by the VHP people, a few days after the announcement
of SC verdict uphelding the MANDAL COMMISSION report, may well be
a trick to change the main topic away from MANDAL & IT's implementation.
I don't really know why these BRAHMINS even after coming to a 
nice country like USA, don't change their attitudes and think rationally.
They want to portray EVR as Dravidian Racist. But I can quote
at least six to seven personal incidents where the BRAHMINS have
proved themselves to be real RACISTs.
The MANDAL COMISSION REPORT IMPLEMENTATION is essential for the
NON-BRAHMIN people, who are the back-bone of INDIA to get some
political power. The MEDIA dominated by BRAHMINS comes out with
the theory, that the "creamy layer" defined by the SC relates to
specific castes and that there will be fight among the BCs. They
want to instigate the NON-BRAHMINS to fight within themselves.
All the BRAHMINS WANT IS TO MAINTAIN STATUS-QUO of their SOCIO-
ECONOMIC-POLITICAL POWER untamed. That is why when V.P.SINGH announced
the MANDAL every news paper (HINDU,EXPRESS etc.,)
who have been appreciating him for so long , turned against him.
There is no need any opposition to mandal. The BRAHMINS should
ask to themselves, the following question:
HOW MANY PERCENT OF NON-BRAHMINS ARE GETTING INTO I.I.Ts of
INDIA, which with our money exports Zillions of BRAHMINS abroad?
Clearly the CONGRESS has ben enough for these power mongers
to maintain their status quo; BUT now times have changed.
So they are turning to RELIGION to protect themselves.
THE RSS/VHP COMBINE is truly BRAHMINICAL. I am saying this out of
practical experience, being associated with some elements of this
group for years. They don't really care about relion/spirituality
or HUMAN BEINGS. If they are really sincere they should go to 
VILLAGES IN INDIA to give SPIRITUAL AND FORMAL EDUCATION to the
numerous amount of illiterate population in INDIA, following
the advice of SWAMI VIVEKANANDA and practical preaching of
MAHATMA GANDHI.
INDIA LIVES IN VILLAGES. THE MIDDLE CLASS(SOCIALLY BACKWARD CLASSES,
INCLUDING the SC,STs) are the real BACKBONE of INDIA.
THE BRAHMINS IN INDIA AND ELSEWHERE IN THE WORLD SHOULD REALISE,
that UNTIL the POWER IS DISTRIBUTED TO THESE REAL PEOPLE,
they can never live in PEACE; WHATEVER the TRICK they play.
KUDOS to people like you. We are for HARMONIOUS SOCIETY. 
I am a person with strong BACKGROUND IN the spiritual aspects
of HINDUISM and I respect it. But HUMAN BEINGS should first be
HUMAN BEINGS. they should try to respect others equally.
WE NON-BRAHMINS should really fight hard to GET BACK SOCIAL 
JUSTICE in INDIA.
Thanks

S.VIJAYAKUMAR
From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Flame wars and Alt.culture.bengal
Date: 24 Dec 1992 15:43:09 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <Dec.24.17.59.32.1992.10828@remus.rutgers.edu> shadagop@remus.rutgers.edu (Narayanan Shadagopan) writes:

>Harsh - will you please stop posting on the net?

Even before the hemorhaging of bandwidth over ACB has come to a close,
some very fine minds have jumped in with extremely persuasive reasons
to convince us as to why such a newsgroup should not be formed.   

>1) You are stupid.

What an excellent analytical mind. 

>2) People would unnecessarily extrapolate that everybody from Rutgers
>   is stupid.

Now, I am convinced. Everybody at Rutgers is a diphead.


>3) You are ugly (I should know - you are my room-mate).

And you still want to see him tonite? I am amazed.


>Leave the Bengalis alone, and worry about Bihar. It needs more help. 

I have seen nothing to the effect that an alt.culture.bihari was in the making.

Oh well, imagination.....the final frontier on SCI


Samit



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University of Southern California   |  A man who smiles when things go wrong,
Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
Bellnet : (213) 342-1401            |  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Re: Alt.culture.bengal
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 15:43:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.135414.9909@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>(Kuram T Narayana) writes:
>> (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>>>
>>>As I recall, all these inane and fear-mongering attacks on ethnic
>>>groups were presented when people wanted Tamil and Telugu groups.
>>>
>>
>>All our fears have been amply demonstrated in soc.culture.tamil.
>>That it is a group for terrorist propaganda, and for spreading
>>hate and blasphemy. To say otherwise is a consummate lie. 
>>You seem to be quite immune to truth.
>>
>Oh, come on! Please don't assume the role of the supreme censor now.
>There are (I suppose) Usenet laws divined to contain terrorism and
>let the law take care of that. With respect to blasphemy thing,
>you sound like Jerry Falwell than a reasoned individual. Looks like
>the first amendment stops at your whim and fancy! 
>
Oh! Bull! The same liberal smut. There is a difference between censorship
and terrorism. Terrorism and propaganda oriented towards the same is
curbed in every democratic society unless it is your looney society.

Since when did you go and talk anything and everything and not get kicked
in the but. My god, some people will go to any lengths to prove that 
they are intellectual slaves of outstanding quality. 

Talk of Jerry Falwel! We have here is an anarchist in you! Come on Satya
you can shed that pink liberal cover and come out.

Worse there are soem who are consummate liars!

>>Having said that I don't see any reason why ACB cannot be created.
>>An alt group can be created by anybody.
>
>Then why did we ask for soc.culture.indian? We should have been 
>happy with alt.culture.indian!
>
>Satya Prabhakar
>
>--
>___________________________________________
>Happiness, dear Phaedrus, is a passed pawn!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil