From: nat@netcom.com (Nathaniel Stitt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: Some more misconceptions regarding OS/2 and NT
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:20:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Aug19.202114.2971@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com
>Yes, I know that.  And they recommend what?  Something like 12 MB main
>memory AND A 100 MB HARD DRIVE (give 50 MB or so).  Hence, there can't
>be more than 100 MB or so on that CD.  Or you need a bigger hard drive
>than they said.
>
No.  There is a third possiblity: There is more information on the CD ROM
than is copied to the hard disk.  One of the advantages of CD ROM is that
you don't need to load *all* the data onto your hard disk, and yet it
remains a simple matter to access the extra data when needed.

The NT SDK contains 252,356,608 bytes (from du).  The amount of hard disk
space used by the NT SDK installation on my disk is 71,368,704 bytes.  This
does not include the space for a swap file, but my swap file is only 1 meg.
(Q: How do I totally disable swapping under NT?  If I set the swap file to 0
meg then NT resets it to 10 meg!) (I don't want swapping because NT has no
trouble using all 32 meg of my ram :-)

I have included the du output at the end of this article.

nat@netcom.com

>
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> in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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########## du for NT stuff on my hard disk starts here.

    311296  winnt/idw
   1884160  winnt/system/config
     81920  winnt/system/drivers/etc
   3915776  winnt/system/drivers
    278528  winnt/system/os2/dll
    294912  winnt/system/os2
   3457024  winnt/system/spool/drivers/w32x86
   3473408  winnt/system/spool/drivers
     32768  winnt/system/spool/printers/0
     32768  winnt/system/spool/printers/1
     32768  winnt/system/spool/printers/2
     32768  winnt/system/spool/printers/3
     32768  winnt/system/spool/printers/4
    180224  winnt/system/spool/printers
     49152  winnt/system/spool/prtprocs/w32x86/winprint
     65536  winnt/system/spool/prtprocs/w32x86
     81920  winnt/system/spool/prtprocs
   3751936  winnt/system/spool
  42057728  winnt/system
  43892736  winnt
   9748480  mstools/bin
    655360  mstools/h/strict
     98304  mstools/h/sys
   2670592  mstools/h
     16384  mstools/help
     81920  mstools/init
   3244032  mstools/lib
     98304  mstools/samples/cliptext
    262144  mstools/samples/comm
    393216  mstools/samples/console
    114688  mstools/samples/cursor
    442368  mstools/samples/ddeml/client
    180224  mstools/samples/ddeml/clock
    245760  mstools/samples/ddeml/server
    884736  mstools/samples/ddeml
    425984  mstools/samples/deb
    442368  mstools/samples/filer
    835584  mstools/samples/fontview
    344064  mstools/samples/gdidemo
     98304  mstools/samples/generic
    114688  mstools/samples/getsys
     32768  mstools/samples/inc
     98304  mstools/samples/input
    409600  mstools/samples/mandel
    262144  mstools/samples/maskblt
    147456  mstools/samples/memory
    180224  mstools/samples/menu
    704512  mstools/samples/mfedit
    114688  mstools/samples/mltithrd
    245760  mstools/samples/multipad
    114688  mstools/samples/mypal
     98304  mstools/samples/npclient
    180224  mstools/samples/npserver
    245760  mstools/samples/ntfonts
    491520  mstools/samples/ole/clidemo
    278528  mstools/samples/ole/srvrdemo
    786432  mstools/samples/ole
     98304  mstools/samples/output
    163840  mstools/samples/owncombo
    114688  mstools/samples/pdc
    196608  mstools/samples/playit
    229376  mstools/samples/plgblt
    131072  mstools/samples/polydraw
    114688  mstools/samples/registry
    147456  mstools/samples/rpc/data/dunion
    147456  mstools/samples/rpc/data/inout
    147456  mstools/samples/rpc/data/xmit
    458752  mstools/samples/rpc/data
    311296  mstools/samples/rpc/dict
    163840  mstools/samples/rpc/doctor
    147456  mstools/samples/rpc/handles/auto
    147456  mstools/samples/rpc/handles/cxhndl
    147456  mstools/samples/rpc/handles/usrdef
    458752  mstools/samples/rpc/handles
    147456  mstools/samples/rpc/hello
    245760  mstools/samples/rpc/mandel
    245760  mstools/samples/rpc/whello
   2097152  mstools/samples/rpc
    147456  mstools/samples/select
    262144  mstools/samples/showdib
    114688  mstools/samples/sidcln
     49152  mstools/samples/simple
    131072  mstools/samples/tls
    163840  mstools/samples/wxform
  11681792  mstools/samples
  27475968  mstools
  71368704  Total

########## du for the NT SDK CD ROM starts here.

    169984  dos2nt/install
    176128  dos2nt/nt/idw
    976896  dos2nt/nt/system/config
     12288  dos2nt/nt/system/drivers/etc
   3368960  dos2nt/nt/system/drivers
    145408  dos2nt/nt/system/os2/dll
    147456  dos2nt/nt/system/os2
   1740800  dos2nt/nt/system/spool/drivers/w32x86
   1742848  dos2nt/nt/system/spool/drivers
      4096  dos2nt/nt/system/spool/printers/0
      6144  dos2nt/nt/system/spool/printers
     22528  dos2nt/nt/system/spool/prtprocs/w32x86/winprint
     24576  dos2nt/nt/system/spool/prtprocs/w32x86
     26624  dos2nt/nt/system/spool/prtprocs
   1777664  dos2nt/nt/system/spool
  35377152  dos2nt/nt/system
  36300800  dos2nt/nt
  36634624  dos2nt
    145408  i386/os2
  36528128  i386
  47466496  mips
   6590464  mstools/bin/i386
  12435456  mstools/bin/mips
   3895296  mstools/bin/msmips
  22923264  mstools/bin
      2048  mstools/debug/i386
      2048  mstools/debug/mips
      6144  mstools/debug
   3809280  mstools/doc/clang
   5517312  mstools/doc/cplslang
   9826304  mstools/doc/cplsref
   4397056  mstools/doc/cplstutr
   8304640  mstools/doc/cplsuser
   7727104  mstools/doc/cruntime
   1130496  mstools/doc/progtech
   4315136  mstools/doc/rpc
   9168896  mstools/doc/tools
   5515264  mstools/doc/win32api
   5341184  mstools/doc/win32ovr
  65054720  mstools/doc
    516096  mstools/h/strict
     12288  mstools/h/sys
   1656832  mstools/h
   4872192  mstools/help/qh
  13412352  mstools/help
     49152  mstools/info
     18432  mstools/init
   2899968  mstools/lib/i386
   6815744  mstools/lib/mips
   9717760  mstools/lib
    190464  mstools/mfc/doc
    655360  mstools/mfc/include
   2269184  mstools/mfc/lib/i386
   4538368  mstools/mfc/lib
     30720  mstools/mfc/samples/about2
     65536  mstools/mfc/samples/chart
    151552  mstools/mfc/samples/ctrltest
     32768  mstools/mfc/samples/fileview
     24576  mstools/mfc/samples/hello
      8192  mstools/mfc/samples/helloapp
     47104  mstools/mfc/samples/mdi
     22528  mstools/mfc/samples/minmdi
     36864  mstools/mfc/samples/minsvr
     32768  mstools/mfc/samples/minsvrmi
     81920  mstools/mfc/samples/multipad
     61440  mstools/mfc/samples/oclient
     53248  mstools/mfc/samples/oserver
     22528  mstools/mfc/samples/restool
     81920  mstools/mfc/samples/showfont
     83968  mstools/mfc/samples/templdef
     14336  mstools/mfc/samples/tracer
      4096  mstools/mfc/samples/tutorial/char
      4096  mstools/mfc/samples/tutorial/win
     86016  mstools/mfc/samples/tutorial
    974848  mstools/mfc/samples
    536576  mstools/mfc/src
   6912000  mstools/mfc
   1300480  mstools/rpc_dos/disk1
    382976  mstools/rpc_dos/disk2
   1683456  mstools/rpc_dos/nsetup
   3368960  mstools/rpc_dos
     24576  mstools/samples/cliptext
    114688  mstools/samples/comm
    141312  mstools/samples/console
     26624  mstools/samples/cursor
    204800  mstools/samples/ddeml/client
     55296  mstools/samples/ddeml/clock
     83968  mstools/samples/ddeml/server
    346112  mstools/samples/ddeml
    169984  mstools/samples/deb
    161792  mstools/samples/filer
    507904  mstools/samples/fontview
    110592  mstools/samples/gdidemo
     22528  mstools/samples/generic
     28672  mstools/samples/getsys
      4096  mstools/samples/inc
     24576  mstools/samples/input
    200704  mstools/samples/mandel
     92160  mstools/samples/maskblt
     51200  mstools/samples/memory
     43008  mstools/samples/menu
    176128  mstools/samples/mfedit
     30720  mstools/samples/mltithrd
    112640  mstools/samples/multipad
     28672  mstools/samples/mypal
     30720  mstools/samples/npclient
     43008  mstools/samples/npserver
     83968  mstools/samples/ntfonts
    223232  mstools/samples/ole/clidemo
    147456  mstools/samples/ole/srvrdemo
    372736  mstools/samples/ole
     24576  mstools/samples/output
     45056  mstools/samples/owncombo
     75776  mstools/samples/pdc
     67584  mstools/samples/playit
     73728  mstools/samples/plgblt
     24576  mstools/samples/polydraw
     43008  mstools/samples/registry
     28672  mstools/samples/rpc/data/dunion
     28672  mstools/samples/rpc/data/inout
     38912  mstools/samples/rpc/data/xmit
     98304  mstools/samples/rpc/data
    135168  mstools/samples/rpc/dict
     45056  mstools/samples/rpc/doctor
     24576  mstools/samples/rpc/handles/auto
     30720  mstools/samples/rpc/handles/cxhndl
     28672  mstools/samples/rpc/handles/usrdef
     86016  mstools/samples/rpc/handles
     28672  mstools/samples/rpc/hello
     73728  mstools/samples/rpc/mandel
     55296  mstools/samples/rpc/whello
    530432  mstools/samples/rpc
     28672  mstools/samples/select
    143360  mstools/samples/showdib
     55296  mstools/samples/sidcln
      6144  mstools/samples/simple
     20480  mstools/samples/tls
     55296  mstools/samples/wxform
   4147200  mstools/samples
 127377408  mstools
     24576  q_a/samples/angle
     22528  q_a/samples/bezier
     88064  q_a/samples/cmndlg
     16384  q_a/samples/consolec
     16384  q_a/samples/drives
     20480  q_a/samples/event
     22528  q_a/samples/getdev
     24576  q_a/samples/inherit
     30720  q_a/samples/mdi_
     61440  q_a/samples/menus
     18432  q_a/samples/mutex
     45056  q_a/samples/ntsd
     24576  q_a/samples/othrproc
     22528  q_a/samples/paths
    151552  q_a/samples/printer
     22528  q_a/samples/process
     51200  q_a/samples/readwrit
     51200  q_a/samples/regions
     32768  q_a/samples/resdll
     24576  q_a/samples/semaphor
     36864  q_a/samples/setinfo
     18432  q_a/samples/sharemem
     47104  q_a/samples/simpldll
     57344  q_a/samples/spincube
     14336  q_a/samples/startp
     77824  q_a/samples/streblt
     32768  q_a/samples/subclass
     10240  q_a/samples/termproc
     20480  q_a/samples/termq
     26624  q_a/samples/threads
     24576  q_a/samples/timers
     32768  q_a/samples/virtmem
     14336  q_a/samples/walk
     36864  q_a/samples/winnet
   1224704  q_a/samples
   2695168  q_a
 252356608  .