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From: kylef@milton.u.washington.edu (Kyle Farrell)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Moby 'Go' new mixes
Summary: Go
Keywords: moby
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:23:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington

I was at the local record store and found a limited edition copy of "GO"
on two 12" singles.  The package says the '92 mixes.  It's called "MOBY
the ultimate go".  It says its a special limited edition of 1000 copies.
Here's a rundown of the tracks:

1st 12":
a:  delirium mix (Jam & Spoon) 6'07"
b1:  in dub mix (Jam & Spoon) 7'19"
b2:  mover mix (the mover for PCP) 6'07"

2nd 12"
a:  arpathoski mix (moby) 6'03"
b1:  amphetamix (moby) 5'32"
b2:  barracuda mix (moby) 4'56"
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most of the mixes are really cool, some are even better than the mix
Razormaid did a couple months ago.

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Kyle Farrell
kylef@milton.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: Techno albums out?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:04:03 GMT


earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV (Greg Earle - Sun JPL on-site Software Support) writes:
>Human Resource ("Dominator, "The Joker") had an album out ("Dominating The
>World", I think).  It was a double LP.  Dunno if it's on CD.

it is available on CD.  pretty dull album.  get the (here it comes again
folks!) twitch remix version "dominating the mix" which takes all the
interesting bits from the whole album and squeezes it down into one killer
seven minute techno jam.  it's out on twitch CD 3 now and will be on the
forthcoming vinyl issue 7.

>The other canonical answer is - if I don't take your "full Techno" quote too
>literally - is The Future Sound of London "Accelerator" album, which certainly
>does exist on CD and it's something that everyone reading this post should own.
>Truly innovative and genre-breaking stuff.

yes!  get this record or die, heathen scum.

if you consider 808 State techno, then they have 2 full albums you should
check out.
-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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From: ftsomers@cs.tcd.ie (fergal somers)
Subject: Re: LSD reply to replies.
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Computer Science)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:31:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.040113.21477@menudo.uh.edu> st10t@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>>and most definitely e-ing (x-ing for all you Americans).
>
>All this time I was wondering why people were transforming x->e
>Before reading this group, I had always heard of x as x and e
>as the most common letter of the alphabet.
>	
>	X is much more symmetrical don't you think?

Well so few common words begin with X, so it would ruin Blockbusters (UK
gameshow, there's a board of letters which are the first letters of the
answers to questions which the gameshow host, Bob, reads out. One
episode I saw, a contestant sheepishly asked "Can I have an E please
Bob?", and the crowd went crazy. Also unofficial T-shirts with the
slogan "I'd like an E please Bob" and a picture of BoB could be seen
here and there a few months ago).
-- 
|boingboingboingboingboingboingboingboingboin~ Fergal  "no sleep till bedtime"|
|            A LEAP AHEAD                    ~ Somers.  ftsomers@cs.tcd.ie    |
|          THROUGH INSANITY                  ~ JEDER FUER SICH UND GOTT GEGEN |
|boingboingboingboingboingboingboingboingboin~ ALLES -  but always SKATE HARD |
From: ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Subject: Re: LSD the facts.
Keywords: rave,drugs
Organization: TFS
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 09:03:24 GMT

The purer idea of a rave, so I gather, was people would come in whatever state
of mind - but presumably high on something. If 'we' aren't doing that very much,
it's because the drugs are illegal. I suggest that people who use drugs form
an international social class, with large bodies in most of the Western
countries.
I suggest this class oganizes itself to fight for the right of its members to
enjoy the experiences they seek, without interference from the law.
Responsibility, yes; restriction, no.
I firmly believe that futures such as envisioned by Leary, et. al. will come to
pass. I think we would all like to begin living there sooner and without fear.
From: mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Mixing/DJ'ing
Date: 27 Aug 92 04:59:37 GMT
	<1992Aug27.023021.5219@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>


   Also, realize that if it's on tape, you can get tape decks or multi-tracks
which can change the pitch of the tape; so, if you tape either the vinyl or the
CD, you can beatmatch.  (It's easier just to use the vinyl directly, tho.)
--
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| Michael Chen			| From the depths of our most lucid horrors |
|				| spring our fond hopes and pure desires... |
| mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu	| except what comes from HELL! :-) 7/23/92  |
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Subject: Re: orb <opus III>
Reply-To: jondr@sco.com
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:42:41 GMT


I am not tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines).  I didn't say:
>sorry if i happen to like opus iii, obviously others like it, cause it wouldn't
>be selling like crazy if it wasn't...

lots of stuff sells like crazy.  not all of it is particularly good.

re this whole "kids being into techno" thing - i find it pretty strange, but
i can believe it.  face facts - techno is now kids music for most of
europe.  with tracks like "sesame's treet" and "pacman", is it any wonder?

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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Xref: sparky alt.rave:2599 alt.music.alternative:9561
From: mikec@praxis.co.uk (Michael Chace)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,alt.music.alternative
Subject: New Releases (Industrial-Techno/Rave)
Date: 25 Aug 92 11:20:07 GMT
Organization: PraXis Systems plc, Bath, Avon UK


PCPP (untitled) R&S Belgium Purple Label RS09219

	A new release on promo in the UK, fast hard techno with a distinct
	Industrial flavour.

Mundo Muzique EP R&S Belgium RS09218

	Cool Techno in the usual R&S house style

A Guy Called Gerald "Juice Box EP" (Juice Box JT004C)

	The man is back. I think he went to the US and got lost. This
	is excellent stuff, hard driving Techno with very definite Rave
	influences and plently of really neat thundering Dub Reggae bass
	lines.

Hackney HardCore "Caught with a Slpiff" Strictly Underground 12"

	Rave On!!
From: moon!cyberden!dbarton@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Techno albums out?
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 17:17:48 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett) writes:

> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
> >jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car) writes:
> >> if you consider 808 State techno, then they have 2 full albums you
> >> should check out. 
> >Three.  (Everybody forgets _Newbuild_ . . . )
> 
> Lemme get this straight.  Is Newbuild actually an 808 State album?  I know
> they played on most or all of it (programmed, whatever) but I had an idea it
> was in fact just a compilation of tracks released by their record label
> (whatever it was back then...).
> 
> And anyway, Quadrastate isn't _that_ short.  Why don't people consider it
> an album?  (Mini-album?)
> 
> -- 
> == Bennett ================================== mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au ==
> |                                                                           |
> |                   Isn't it funny how your body works?                     |
> =============================================================================

Newbuild is very defintly an LP. It is the first 808 State and is long 
since out of print.

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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: The music and the drug are separate things!!!
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 14:45:42 GMT

In <oivindi.2@dhhalden.no> oivindi@dhhalden.no (OIVIND IDSO) writes:
>>I really don't believe that anyone has to take drugs to like the music. How 
>>could anyone in the rave scene not like the music if it is really good?
>>People take drugs because people wanna take drugs. Plus it helps to keep
>>popping at 7am! The music just happens to enhance the chemical experience!
>You say that "the music just happens to enhance the chemical experience". 
>Does this mean that the drugs come first, and the music second? If yes, my 
>argument concerning shitty Techno is supported quite well.

I think you misunderstood.  "the music just happens to enhance the chemical
experience" seems pretty clearly to mean "if you're tripping, music is
an enhancer".  This is true of just about any kind of music that the
tripper is into.  Someone who hates techno is not going to like it any
better if they drop Acid.

I also think your problem is labelling the entire genre based on some
(apparently) bad examples.  Techno has been proclaimed "the next big thing"
so there are hundreds of posers who think they can crank out the same
repetetive crap and call it techno.  Just like with every other genre of
music to come down the pike for a long time.  The record companies think it
might sell, so they don't engage any critical faculties, they just snap
up and hope marketing will carry the day.  Read this group and check out
the recommendations and see if you can find some good stuff.  They all seem
to think it's still out there.....
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
                            plant ice, harvest wind
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Neutron 9000?
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 03:21:43 GMT
Organization: WeasElectro Productions: Television/Movies/Comics

Who knows anything about Neutron 9000 (a/k/a Dominic Woosey)?  I picked up
their/his German CD5 for "Tranceplant" in the cheap-used-singles bin
tonight and while it's not the greatest trance track I've ever heard, it
ain't half bad.  Is there any more out there? 

(The label's Bassic Instinct, by way of MFS).

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"shine your white light on me"
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: AJB reviews, #2
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 22:58:42 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete
Distribution: usa

pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:

[About the Blue Pearl vs. The Orb 12":]

> Is this available on CD?

If it is, I don't know about it.  Big Life never released the second 12"
singles for "Little Fluffy Clouds" or "Perpetual Dawn" on CD either, so I
wouldn't hold my breath. 

(Kinda sucks, dunnit?)

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"what kind of dream was this, so easy to destroy?"
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: thiel@hardy.u.washington.edu (me me me me...)
Subject: Re: Going to a Rave questions. Rave virgin at large.
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:34:33 GMT

  I too have some questions but have not yet figured out how to start my 
own subject <sigh> and this seemed most appropriate. so...

  I live in seattle and would like some info on the rave scene (t)here.  I know
they go on, just not where to find out about them.  Also, im going to New York
for a week, whats the rave scene like there (and who would i contact there?)
  Any answers appreciated. another raver on the UW computers would be cool!

thanks all

Thiel the Walrus                thiel@hardy.u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: 808 State: Newbuild (was: Techno albums out?)
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 17:09:39 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett) writes:

> Will the generally-released US "Timebomb" single be the same as the 4-
> track promo?  Let us know.  I'm hoping for a big remix-fest a la "Lift"
> (though hopefully the mixes will be better...). 

They could hardly be any *worse*.  (Justin Strauss -- retch retch!  How does
this pinhead get work?)

The catalog number for the promo is a standard Tommy Boy catalog number,
so the promo is probably just a stamped promo disc from the regular
pressing run.  In other words -- same tracks.  Haven't seen it in the
shops yet, though I'll check today.  

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: 808 State: Newbuild (was: Techno albums out?)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:54:16 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett) writes:

> Lemme get this straight.  Is Newbuild actually an 808 State album? 

It's an 808 State album.  Sez 808 State on the cover, on the spine, and
on the label, with nobody else credited except for A Guy Called Gerald
(the cover's stickered "Acid Tracks featuring AGCG", or something similar -
I'm at work and the LP's at home).

> I know they played on most or all of it (programmed, whatever) but I had
> an idea it was in fact just a compilation of tracks released by their
> record label (whatever it was back then...). 

Creed Records.  I think you're confusing _Newbuild_ with the Hit Squad
Manchester singles -- which I haven't seen, but which seem to be an 808-
driven project from before _Newbuild._  The first HSM single was on
Eastern Bloc Records, which mutated into Creed; Eastern Bloc is the 808-
owned (is it Massey or someone else?) Manchester record shop.

> And anyway, Quadrastate isn't _that_ short.  Why don't people consider
> it an album?  (Mini-album?) 

It clocks in at just under half an hour, so it's hard for me to think of
it as a full-fledged album.  Mini-LP, maybe.

They need to put _Newbuild_ and _Quadrastate_ out as a single CD, I think.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"Miracles will happen as we dream"
From: visnurpk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Rich Kernin)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Altern8 released in US?
Date: 3 Sep 92 06:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi,

Does anyone know if any singles/albums by Altern8 are going to be released
in the US?  Thanks!

-Rich

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From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: Mixing/DJ'ing
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:05:16 GMT

In article <h6cn+ml@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>
>> So you can't scratch.  Big deal.   
>
>Just to clarify -- no disrespect intended to hip-hop DJs.  My mindset's
>more techno-oriented, as I figure's the case for most people here.

yes and?

if you think that all you need to do for techno is beat mix,
then man... just dont spin...
i spend a LOT of time at raves just watching Dj's and learning the
tricks and stuff that they pull 
Frankie Bones and Ron D Core and a couple other people can scratch
so fuckign incredibly well and it IS techno and
it sounds awesome
other things like back-spinning, transforming and all that are
all stuff that people first did to hip-hop and now do to techno
spinning is spinning no matter what the music is



--
If we were still going barefoot the world would be a
much softer place.
				   ,
IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Anyone go to THE FINAL CALL: How was it?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 04:57:50 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep2.165546.23186@midway.uchicago.edu> disc@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>The KC rave was a joke.

Aha, that's what you think. 
Man, was it a blast.

And having it weeks before the scheduled date, that was a brilliant way to
elude the fuzz.

(just kidding!)

>The Final Call (from what I've been told) was wack as hell.  There were no 
>more than 300 people there **TOTAL** and from what I heard, the generator
>they were using broke down so the damn thing didn't even continue for the
>alleged duration.  

I the promoter isn't smart enough to bring a backup generator or enough gas
or whatnot, he deserves to lose all his money.  It reminds me of a particular
bus driver we had for our event...

>That's good.  It was a sellout, anyways.  DJs Miles Maeda
>and James Johnson didn't show up because they weren't convinced that they 
>would get paid.

That shouldn't be a reason not to do an event.  They should base their
distrust more on the promoters themselves than whether they can see $$
signs.  I.E. - if they believe that the promoter is a trustworthy person
and will pay them if they meet the other expenses, then they should go for 
it.  If they're concerned that the promoters are scum who will just as soon
flake on them and keep the money, they shouldn't do it. 

>Technopolis should be fun.  Kinda on the high budget tip.  Wow.

Beware the of the big $! Some people see it and get very greedy....  out here
on the West Coast the quality of a rave is almost always inverse to the
"production" level (with exceptions all around, of course..)

	Brian


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"This isn't one of those RAVE parties, is it?" - Nat'l Park Service
representative while I tried making "camping" reservations. ;-)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: droe@cs.tcd.ie (David Roe)
Subject: Re: The music and the drug are separate things!!!
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin (Astrobiology)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:16:47 GMT

>If it's true that 80% of the people at raves are tripping, well, then I know
>why 90% of all Techno music sucks. 
>
	[bit deleted]

>You say that "the music just happens to enhance the chemical experience". 
>Does this mean that the drugs come first, and the music second? If yes, my 
>argument concerning shitty Techno is supported quite well.
>
>As I understand it, drugs reduce (remove) your critical senses quite a bit. 
>Which means that (80% of the) people at a rave probably can't differ one 
>tune from another (depending on how tripped out they are, of course).
>
>The question is therefore, how do tripping people know a GOOD tune from a 
>BAD tune?

I dont think this argument stands up very well, regardless of whether
drugs or music come first. Rave-type drugs, E, Acid, speed etc. dont
leave one in such a "tripped out state" that the senses become blurred,
or numbed in the same way that alcohol or other depressants do. Rather,
the much-mentioned "sense of euphoria" (especially from E) what might be
better described as a "a good mood". The idea that your "critical
senses" are so reduced that you cant tell one tune from another is
ridiculous. I could list a load of tunes that I positively detest
regardless of my chemical balance "Rythm is a dancer" is able to put
a good sized dent in my "Euphoria" anytime. I think the only thing you
can say is that, in any situation, someone in a good mood is more likely
to give anything, tunes included, a better "mark out of ten". Thus, you
might say that people are less critical at raves. 

In any case, at the bottom line, it is the music makers that are 
responsible for how the music sounds. To a certian extent they are
driven by what the public likes at the time, and how well their last one
went down, but techno-producing people tend to be so creative that very
little is going to stop them doing new, exciting stuff. The boon of rave
culture is that people are so receptive (receptivity being the flip side
of uncriticallity) that they are less likely to close their ears to
something new. Witness how quickly house, industrial, rave, techno music
has mutated, grown and diversified even since '89. Metal hasnt changed
much over even the last five years. So maybe you dont like 90% of
techno - question do other people you know hate it as much? - or maybe
you are missing something they are seeing/hearing?

		Dave Roe
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: st1pk@elroy.uh.edu (Taylor, Daniel K.)
Subject: Re: Song ID Time...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 04:30:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.024554.9555@ncsu.edu>, ddm@hamby.tx.ncsu.edu (David Mann) writes...
>OK, sorry about this guys, but i can't find the name/group that does the
>song with the sweepy synths and _cat meows_ (of all things) over the
>synths.  (All i know is that it's not Dee-Lite)  Can anyone help?
> 
>--
>May the forces of evil become confused on the way to your house.
> 
>David_Mann@ncsu.edu

	sounds like Charly by The Prodigy
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rmills@controls.ccd.harris.com (Richard C. Mills)
Subject: Re: the KLF in boulder (WHAT?!!!)
Organization: Harris Controls and Composition
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:06:50 GMT

	KLF in Boulder? I doubt it, they pulled the same shit down
here in Florida a while back.  We had a local club that was supposed
to get the KLF w/ Wanda whats-her-name.  As it turns out, it was
only that Wanda chick using the KLF name.  The record company
was supposed to have been getting a restraining order to keep
her from performing under the KLF name.  I guess they didn't.  If
I was you, I wouldn't waste my money unless you know for sure the
real KLF will be there.

		-Richard

rmills@ccd.harris.com
From: thiel@hardy.u.washington.edu (me me me me...)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Faves for Raves
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:54:32 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I wrote:
>  I wanna buy a few good techno/rave albums too get a taste of the music.... can anyone mail their favorites to me?  I have but a little $$ to spend but i'd like too hear favorite albums and tracks.... I've picked up that Orb is well loved  by all.... :)
>
>
>

  Perhaps I should expand the specified genre's to techno/industrial/house/
ambiant/anything raveish.... I dont want *just* techno suggestions :)

thanks again

thiel@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: AJB reviews, #2
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:12:30 GMT

In <1992Aug31.152821.16089@dutrun2.tudelft.nl> Andrew Bennett <AJBENNETT@MIAVX1.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU> writes:
>Blue Pearl - Mother Dawn (UK Big Life: BLRD73 - 863 071-2)
>
>1. Mother Dawn (7 Inch Mix)
>2. Mother Dawn (Overlords Remix)
>3. Mother Dawn (Full Moon Mix)
>4. Can you Feel the Passion (Turntable Hype Mix)
>
>#1-#3 produced and mixed by Youth.  #4 produced by Youth.
>
>I originally bought this because I thought that The Orb had remixed one
>of these tracks.  Obviously not.  Is there another version of this in
>existence?
>
>Overall, pretty decent.  Probably won't sit well with most folks, because
>of the diva-type of vocals.  Youth's mixes are awesome. 
>
>Overall Rating:  7/10 (Disappointed about no Orb remixes)

I'm told that there is another Single that is ALL Orb remixes of this.
Don't know how where or why though.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
             Don't make me mad.  You wouldn't like me when I'm mad.
From: Scott_Velez@mindlink.bc.ca (Scott Velez)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: break beat
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:10:15 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I see various references to 'break beat's. Can somebody define this term for
me?

 Scott

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