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From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Major setback for India's chances
Date: 26 Jul 1992 20:03:15 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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I'd have thought that India would have been hoping for at least a draw in the
game against Germany - given the fact that things had been going well during
the European tour. This must be seen as a major setback - one more loss and I'd
guess it's curtains. And that loss is very foreseeable - India's nemesis -
Australia (India have probably never beaten Australia since the Montreal
Olympics when Australia first made it big time). 
  Looking at the pools I'd bet on Australia, Germany, Netherlands and Pakistan
to make it to the semis. Potential spoilers - the Germany-Britain game and the
home team Spain.

Sudhama
From: airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: the unified team ??
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:47:34 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Jul20.175019.12728@b30.ingr.com> kumar@b30.ingr.com (Mahesh S. Kumar) writes:
>
> A question about the unified team.  Is there any olympic rule on 
>allowing a group of nations to compete under one flag/group.  I can 
>understand this being done for individual events (as the effect is only
>in the total medals won, which is largely academic).  But in team sports,
>the unification can have a profound impact on the prospects of other medal
>seeking teams.  What are the rules in this case ?  More importantly, what
>do other hockey fans think about this? 

	Being Irish, there is a peculiar problem with regards
	to playing international matches. Unlike the football,
	there Irish hockey team is representative of the whole
	island, ie. not just the Republic. Those players from
	Northern Ireland must give priority to playing for the
	Irish international team. They may play for the Great
	Britain side, provided only that the tournament or match
	does not clash with something involving the Irish side.

	In this way, people like Sam Martin, Billy McConnell and
	Jimmy Kirkwood may have between them over 100 Irish caps,
	yet they can also have Olympic medals which they won
	with the GB side as Ireland did not qualify for the same
	tournament.

	However, had Ireland qualified, then said players would
	not be eligible to play for the GB team.

	One problem with us having a team representative of the
	whole island, is that the majority of the players who
	are selected from Northern Ireland (and who are hence
	British) refuse to play under the Irish National Anthem,
	which will be played during tournaments, or under the Irish
	Tricolour which would normally fly. Obviously, those
	selected from the Republic will refuse to play under the
	British Natinal Anthem and Union Jack, but that does not 
	arise, as we are an Irish team, and not a British one.

	As a (reluctant) compromise, Danny Boy is played instead,
	and a flag representing the four provinvial hockey boards
	is flown.

Richard.
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From: dam@fwi.uva.nl (Joris van Dam)
Subject: Dutch squad. Predictions.
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Distribution: rec.sport.field.hockey
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:40:19 GMT

Here follow the players that have been selected for the Dutch national
field hockey team in Barcelona, first (1-4-3-3) of each group will
most probably constitute the starting line-up:

Goalkeepers:
Frank Leistra  			(Tilburg)
Bart Looye			(HGC)

Defenders:
Floris-Jan Bovenlander		(Bloemendaal)
Hendrik-Jan Kooyman		(Bloemebdaal)
Jan-Pieter van Ede		(Amsterdam)
Wouter van Pelt			(HDM)
Bastiaan Poortenaar		(SCHC)

Midfield
Cees-Jan Diepenveen		(Bloemendaal)
Jacques Brinkman		(Kampong)
Marc Delissen			(HGC)
Leo Klein-Gebbink		(Tilburg ?)
Harry Kwinten			(Oranje-Zwart)

Forwards:
Taco van de Honert		(Amsterdam)
Stephan Veen			(HGC)
Gijs Weterings			(HGC)
Erik Parlevliet			(Dragons)
Maarten van Grimbergen		(HCKZ)
Rochus  Westbroek    		(???)

After the world championships in Lahore, 1990, the highly acclaimed coach
Hans Jorritsma retired and many players announced their retirement from the
national team. Bianchi took over and tried to build a younger team. Following
some dramatic results in tournaments, the players still form the 'Lahore-squad',
with captain Marc Delissen in front, lobbied to get Bianchi removed (who
had a acontract till Barcelona) and to get Jorritsma back. And ... he has\
returned. With his return, Jorritsma changed direction and selected many
older players, like Diepenveen, Kooyman, Kwinten, Parlevliet and most notably
Maarten van Grimbergen, who was a huge talent under Ties Kruize, in the early
eighties. Van 't Hek also joined, but became injured some months ago.
   Joritsma has done some solid work and the team has come a long way. Their
defence is not too solid with Bovenlander as their libero, who is known for
his nochalance. Recent results have not been too well, with a lot of close
matches against Australia, but also Argentina and Malaysia. Besides their 
defence, their attack often 'dies in beauty', they still need Bovenlander.
However, Jorritsma is confident. I know the team has not been showing all
their best recently, so I think the Dutch will come a long way.

Favourites four gold : Holland, Pakistan
Next best : Australia, Germany
Dangerous outsiders : India, Argentina, England

Argentina will not contend for a medal, but my guess is, they'd be a
tumbling block for some of the bigger ones.

Joris
From: adusumel@redskins.ent.ohiou.edu (Nagendra R Adusumelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: No Updates????
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:09:32 GMT
Organization: College Of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University. Athens
Originator: adusumel@redskins.ent.ohiou.edu

The subject says it all.

I wonder what happened to India , Germany match.

Hope somebody posts the result soon.

bye
nagendra



-- 
"When in doubt do what the President does -- guess."  
"If at first you don't succeed, redefine success."
"Today is the first day of the rest of the mess."
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 15:38:07 MST
From: Nauman Mysorewala. <PAKEDITR@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: July 28th results plus standing table




Pakistan News Service

           Summer Olympics '92
            Mens Field Hockey

              Point Table

Pool A          M  W  L  T  G AG Pts

Australia       2  2  0  0 12  1  4
Germany         2  2  0  0  5  0  4
Britian         2  1  1  0  2  2  2
India           2  1  1  0  1  3  2
Egypt           2  0  2  0  1  7  0
Argentina       2  0  2  0  0  8  0


Pool B          M  W  L  T  G AG Pts

Pakistan        2  2  0  0  5  1  4
Netherlands     2  2  0  0  8  4  4
Unified         2  1  1  0  8  2  2
Spain           2  1  1  0  5  3  2
New Zealand     2  0  2  0  0  2  0
Malaysia        2  0  2  0  4 11  0


Game Results

July 26th

Won          G    Los          G

Pool A
Australia    7    Argentina    0
Britian      2    Egypt        0
Germany      3    India        0

Pool B
Netherlands  5    Unified      2
Pakistan     4    Malaysia     1
Spain        3    New Zealand  0


July 28th

Won          G    Los          G

Pool A
Australia    5    Egypt        1
Germany      2    Britian      0
India        1    Argentina    0

Pool B
Netherlands  3    Spain        2
Pakistan     1    New Zealand  0
Unified      7    Malaysia     3


By Nauman K. Mysorewala
Coordinator Pakistan News Service
Coordinator Muslims News Network
From: ihusain@pyramid.COM (Intisar Husain)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Did Pakistan won a Gold Medal in Wrestling?
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:53:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Mountain View, California

I apologize using this group for getting the information which is not
related to Field Hockey.

I just heard a rumor that Pakistan won a Gold Medal in wrestling and
a Bronze Medal in swimming.

Can someone confirm this?
Thanks
Intisar.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
From: hasnie@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Rizwan Hasnie)
Subject: Re: 1992 Olympics - Men's Hockey Tournament Summary
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:05:16 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.150922.3351@seas.gwu.edu>, lodhi@seas.gwu.edu (Fakhar Lodhi) writes:
>             1992 Olympics - Men's Hockey Tournament Summary
>             -----------------------------------------------
> 
>                                 POOL A
>                                 ------
>                                                    GOALS
>                                               ---------------
>      ARG    AUS    BRI    EGY    GER    IND    for   against   PTS   POSITION
> ARG   -     0/7                                 0       7       0        6
> AUS  7/0     -                                  7       0       2        1
> BRI                 -     2/0                   2       0       2        3
> EGY                0/2     -                    0       2       0        4
> GER                               -     3/0     3       0       2        2
> IND                              0/3     -      0       3       0        5
> 
> 
>                                 POOL B
>                                 ------
>                                                    GOALS
>                                               ---------------
>      HOL    MAL    NZ     PAK    SPA    UT     for   against   PTS   POSITION
> HOL   -                                 5/2     5       2       2       1
> MAL          -            1/4                   1       4       0       4
> NZ                  -            0/3            0       3       0       4
> PAK         4/1            -                    4       1       2       1
> SPA                3/0            -             3       0       2       1
> UT   2/5                                 -      2       5       0       4
> 
> 
> NOTE: Position is based on points and goal difference.
> 
> Fakhar Lodhi
> 
> 

 If the goal difference is the same then the position is determined by
 the number of goals each team scored. If even the no. of goals scored
 is equal then the position is determined by the result of the match
 between the two tied teams.

Rizwan.

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From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: More Predictions ...
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:08:38 GMT
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Jul23.200724.9664@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> zafarha@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu (Haseeb Zafar) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.094413.29231@bilby.cs.uwa.edu.au>, graeme@skylark.uwa.oz.au (Graeme Reid) writes:
>> 
>> Here are some more (definately biased) predictions for the Olympics
>> 
>> Gold	-	Australia
>> Silver	-	Germany
>> Bronze	-	Netherlands
>> 
>> Australia - well I have to back them gold :-) plus it's the first
>> olympics for as long as I can remember where they haven't been
>> favourites, which on past performance should guarentee them a medal.
>> 
>> Germany - Will finish top of their pool (just too strong), and look
>> invinsible until the upset in the final ...
>> 
>> Netherlands - the dark horse, picked mainly because no one else has
>> backed them for a medal and I know they're capable of it.  Besides,
>> if people can back India (Pargat) for a medal then why not the Netherlands
>> (Bouvelander) ?
>> 
>> 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Graeme Reid				Computer Science Department
>> email: graeme@cs.uwa.edu.au		The University of WA
>> Phone: +61 9 380 3456			Nedlands   WA   6009
>> 
>> 
>
>No more predictions, this stuff is based on reality.
>
>1.Pakistan  (GOLD)
>2.India      (SILVER)
>3.Australia    (BRONZE)
>
>We donot have enough artificial turfs still Pakistan and India are going to prove 
>that they have the natural talent.  

You made a little mistake :-) It should have read

1. India (GOLD)
2. Pakistan  (SILVER)
3. Australia (BRONZE) 

The last bit of your comment is correct though.

Ramakrishna Chada
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
From: bholu@nyx.cs.du.edu (  Bholu)
Subject: Re: Hockey
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 11:22:12 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: India vs GB
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The match began with both teams trying to settle into a rythm and
there was no serious challenge in the first 10 min by either
team.  Kerly then broke through from the left and earned a free 
hit just outside the Indian D when he was checked but the hit 
wasn't taken properly. Shortly after that GB earned its 1st PC 
when an ineffective clearnace from the Indian rt. back saw GB 
take possession on top of the D, followed by a swift pass into 
the D and then a foul by one of the Indian players. The PC was 
converted by Hill when he sent in a strong flick into the middle 
of the net.  India counter-attacked and earned a PC but it was 
saved  by the GB goalkeeper. India earned a 2nd PC following a 
move b/w Jagbir Singh and Shakeel Ahmed on the lt. flank but 
could not capitalize on it. Just before half-time India earned a 
third PC but a poorly executed attempt to flick the ball in saw 
another opportunity go down. Half-time 1-0 to GB.

The second half started at a fast pace and once again Murgesh 
Kumar and Felix combined well on the rt. for Murgesh to send in a 
beautiful cross from the Gb baseline but none of the 3 forwards 
could take advantage of it. Two substitutions; one each by India 
and GB. Free hit on the left side near the GB D was taken by 
Pargat and Pillay connected but the shot was saved. Another move 
from the rt. won a long corner for India. Pargat's strong hit 
into the GB D was deflected off a GB player's stick and Felix 
quickly picked up the free ball and with a strong push sent it 
across into the left corner of the goal. 1-1. Kerly then broke 
through taking advantage of a defensive lapse but his shot missed 
the left post by inches. GB then reversed the pressure. The rt 
winger managed to get past the Indian backs and pass it to Kerly 
who deflected it into the far side of the goal as the GK came out 
to meet the GB forward. 2-1 to GB. Another burst from the rt 
flank for GB and the ball was passed to Thompson who was left 
unmarked and he swiftly put the ball into the roof of the goal. 
3-1 to GB and 8-10 min of play left. The Indians then missed 
another PC, their 4th. A 5th PC was awarded to India but with 
only 1 1/2 min remaining India had lost the match. The 5th PC led 
to another PC and that to yet another one but the hooter sounded 
before it could be taken. Final score GB 3, India 1.


Xref: sparky rec.sport.hockey.field:379 rec.sport.olympics:1400 soc.culture.indian:26317
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field,rec.sport.olympics,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Hockey: Tuesday ; results
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:27:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095E3D8.053FDC00
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey.field
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

hi there

India b Argentina 1-0  (Pargat Singh, Penalty corner, 5th min.)
Unified Team b Malaysia 7-3
Second loss in two matches for Argentina & Malaysia
So they are close to being out of recognition.
First win for India and CIS

It seems from the Beeb report that the weather
was very oppressive. 104 deg. F

bye,

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They carry less weight  than their volume would suggest.
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From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Hockey: Tuesday results
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:23:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095E44C.DCE48920
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

hi there

Netherlands b Spain 3-2
Germany b Great Britain 2-0
Australia b Egypt 5-1
India b Argentina 1-0

bye,

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RAM            		       BULLS -93	

Politicians' statements tend to have a low specific gravity.
They carry less weight  than their volume would suggest.
		- Jonathan Miller
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From: cmc8225@zeus.tamu.edu (CHENANDA, CARIAPPA MUDAPPA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Shahid's position
Date: 26 Jul 92 17:48:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Shahid was an inside forward mainly left inside even though he would switch
to inside right at times. I don't remember him having played Centre forward
for India. I hope you haven't confused him for another guy Md. Naim (also of
Indian Railways) who was a centre forward for a very brief period in 86-87


Cariappa
From: singh@concordia.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Request!!
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:31:08 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Originator: singh@athena


  Could any kind soul post the results of India-Argentina hockey
  match? 

  Thanx in advance.

  -gurinder
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From: vksood@unity.ncsu.edu (Vikas Kumar Sood)
Subject: Re: Mhd. Shaihd's playing position
Organization: North Carolina State University Project Unity
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:50:42 GMT

Mhd. Shahid was a right in.

Vikas
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Hockey : sunday
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:10:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095E26D.1ED55DA0
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

hi there
Germany leading India 3-0 in the second half.
In earlier matches Australia and Spain won.
bye,

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RAM            		       BULLS -93	

Politicians' statements tend to have a low specific gravity.
They carry less weight  than their volume would suggest.
		- Jonathan Miller
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From: subbarao@wilma.nmsu.edu (Ravi Subbarao)
Subject: Can we get radio commentary of Hockey matches......
Organization: Networking Group, New Mexico State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:46:12 GMT



Can somebody tell me if there is a way of getting the radio commentary
here in the U.S. of the hockey matches.........? And by any chance, 
are there any TV coverage available??

Please let me know....


\Ravi
<subbarao@nmsu.edu>
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From: obaid@ecf.toronto.edu
Subject: Re: New penalty corner rule
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:44:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.135106.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> tchristen01@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>
>  Briefly this requires that the ball must be
>trapped outside the circle before a goal-shot can be taken.  From
>last nights experience this rule limits the attacking teams capacity
>to score penalty corner goals.  However as teams become more polished
>with their skills and strategies defenders will need to adapt their
>current style of defending penalty corners.
>
>I am quite concerned that this rule will make penalty corners even
>more dangerous than they currently are.  Since the obvious attacking
>strategy is to trap the ball just outside the circle, and bunt or
>push it inside the circle for some powerful brute to 'fly-hit' at goal.  
>My concern is that this strategy will lead to more lifted and less
>controlled shots at goal.  I am a little surprised that FIH Rules 
>Committee have decided on this rule.  Yet I understand that it will
>be implemented for the 1993 season.
>

I have not yet played with this rule in practice.
However, just thinking about it in my head.......seems like a better rule
than the previous one.

The new rule will give more time for defenders to respond, because the ball 
has to travel a greater distance. Hence the defenders will be, at least,
halfway out of the goal when the ball reaches the striker. This in turn
will limit the wild hits that the striker can make. On the other hand,
because the defenders will be well out of the goal, the striker now has
the chance to "aim" and find an empty space. With the old rule, more often
than not, the defenders are still very close to the goal when the ball
reaches the striker. There is very little empty space to "aim" at.
Quite often I found myself making wild hits, and sometimes purposely
lifting the ball because the only open space I could find was 3ft up in
the air.

NadeemS
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Results Thursday
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:09:58 GMT
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

Great Britain b India 3-1 
Pakistan b CIS 6-2

bye,
From: sunjain@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (mera bharat mahan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: Shahid's position
Date: 26 Jul 1992 21:31:29 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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In <26JUL199212482032@zeus.tamu.edu> cmc8225@zeus.tamu.edu (CHENANDA, CARIAPPA MUDAPPA) writes:

>Shahid was an inside forward mainly left inside even though he would switch
>to inside right at times. I don't remember him having played Centre forward
>for India. I hope you haven't confused him for another guy Md. Naim (also of
>Indian Railways) who was a centre forward for a very brief period in 86-87


>Cariappa 

I don't think Shahid ever played as right-in. Infact it is very difficult for
a left-in to play in a right-in position. He however played as centre-forward
for Railways in couple of matches.

sunil jain.