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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: SB-16
Originator: smintz@sedona
Reply-To: arentzis@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:34:00 GMT


According to creative Labs; the sb-16 won't be releases till Jan 93...so where
did you get yours?
Stephen
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From: hsiaa@ucs.orst.edu (Arthur Hsia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale,or.forsale,cor.forsale
Subject: Ultrasound for sale
Date: 13 Dec 1992 20:53:16 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
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Hi,

I have a Gravis UltraSound for sale.  The price will be $140 plus whatever
shipping you want.  I paid $159 and I know the supplies are limited, so 
don't flame me about the price.  The price can be or best offer.  The 
highest price will get it.  

Art
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg)
Subject: GUS 2.2 vs. 2.4 (and does Gravis read this?)
Keywords: Soundcards, GUS
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:24:16 GMT

Can anyone tell me the difference between the GUS v2.2 and v2.4?

BTW: I'm just wondering. Are the people from Gravis reading this newsgroup?

Jerry

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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: SB16 Released at Last!
Originator: smintz@sedona
Reply-To: arentzis@sedona.intel.com
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:16:45 GMT


In article <1992Dec17.200455.660@sfu.ca>, mtichy@fraser.sfu.ca (Martin Tichy) writes:
> > Acually, the sb 16 with Gods, falcon, and Wing Commander, sounds
> > great...don't know where you are getting your facts from....!!
>  
> If you have Star Trek's 25th Anniversay (BTW it's a great 
> game) give that a go on a SB PRO 1.0 and then give it a try on 
> a SB PRO 2.0 or SB PRO 16 (They both use the Yamaha OPL-3 
> chip) and then ask me where I'm getting my facts from.
>  
Ok, I just did, can't hear a difference, the game sounds great especially with
the dsp feature on my altec Lansings....maybe your system is electrically
noisey...
Stephen
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From: gary.chan@compdyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Gary Chan) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Is the PAS-16 only for in
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: gary.chan@compdyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Gary Chan) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Dynamics - Vancouver B.C. - (604)986-9937 (604)255-9937

John to All on 12-12-92 All about Is the PAS-16 only for in

J >From: jasmith@admin1.memst.edu (John)
J >Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
J >Subject: Is the PAS-16 only for internal CD-ROM
J >Message-ID: <1992Dec10.132516.4509@admin1.memst.edu>
J >Date: 10 Dec 92 13:25:16 -0600
J >
J >Does the PAS-16 only have an internal connector for
J >the CD-ROM.  I have notice that looking at the 
J >Media Vision Pro 16 MultiMedia System that they come with an
J >internal drive.  Do the PAS-16 only come with internal hook ups 
J >on the card itself or do they have external.  Or do they have
J >an option of coming with internal CD-Rom hook ups or external
J >CD-ROM hook ups?
J >

You need to purchase an 'external adapter bracket' for hookin up external 
CDROM drives.


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From: francisco.perez@rose.com (francisco perez)
Subject: ATI/FX not stereo
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:37:16 GMT
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Date Entered: 12-16-92 11:29
A(>If the SBPro is programmed as if it were just a regular Sound
A(>Blaster, you will hear exactly what you would hear if you had an
A(>SB.  That is, there are no stereo effects.  The same sounds will
A(>come from both the left and right outputs of the SBPro.  I got
A(>the impression that some people were thinking that the SBPro
A(>automagically "stereoizes" signals.  That's the ATI Stereo/FX
A(>card.                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Actually, the ATI/FX doesn't "automagically steroize" the SB signals.  It
has the ability to play FM in stereo, but the only game I knew of which
allowed that was Eye of the Beholder I, and it wasn't even documented in the
game!
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From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS question - help with Unreal demo  - anyone have it working?
Date: 13 Dec 92 12:10:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <ByyIs0.FIs@watserv2.uwaterloo.ca> ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
>In article <6056@naucse.cse.nau.edu> slb@naucse.cse.nau.edu (Stacey Brewer) writes:
>>
>>Has anyone managed to get the UNREAL demo to work with GUS.
>>?
>>
>>I finally recieved my GUS from computability and am happy with it.
>>But... Unreal hangs the system after selecting soundblaster from
>>opening menu. I have set IRQ to 2 in setup program and saved
>>and checked autoexec and it is set for 2. But nothing seems to work.
>>I have tried -o[1-3] -x[1-3] and no arguments too with same result.
>>The demo will work fine if I don't run sbos first, but with no sound.
>
>Have you grabbed the new SBOS from epas?  It supposedly works with Unreal.
>I haven't tried it myself, though.
>
>Phat.

Unreal is one of the FEW demos that DO work on my GUS.  One thing is that
Unreal wants 600K free low memory.  I just put DOS, mouse.com, sbos (has 
to be manually loaded), etc. into high memory, thereby freeing up enough
base memory.  I'm running DOS5.0, SBOS 1.22?(the new beta version) without
flags, ULTRASND=220,7,7,11,5, BLASTER=A220 I5 D1 T1.

The other demos that I've tried & the success that I've had with them are:
Amnesia- works, but not when SBOS is running
Crystal Dream- ""
Buttman- works until buttman farts, and then crashes whether SBOS runs or not.
Chronolog- 1st part works, then crashes if SBOS is running
Fishtro- makes machine noise until the fish part, then crashes if SBOS is runing.
Putrefaction- Yes!  It actually works with SBOS!  
Sonic-A- Doesn't work with or without SBOS.
Theparty- starts to play through SBOS, then clicks and crashes.
Vectdemo- refuses to work with SBOS.
VV- sort of...music plays through SBOS, but the graphics slow to a snail's pace.

If anyone has a method to make these demos work, let me/us know.  Some of them
LOOK pretty neat, but I bet the sound makes them even better.



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From: feoh@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Patti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS 16 Mailing list update
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:13:08 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science


To anyone who may have sent me a subscription request in the last week or two,
please re-submit..

Due to an NFS bug at this site the new edition of the list got hosed :( 70
subscription requests got lost..

So if you own a PAS+ or PAS 16,  just send your email adress to:
pas-lovers-request@gnu.ai.mit.edu

and I'll add you to the list again..

My most sincere apologies for the inconvenience.

-Chris patti
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From: johnb@sage.cc.purdue.edu (John Brainerd)
Subject: GUS
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:54:17 GMT

   Hi,  I've got a couple quick questions about the GUS.

   Can someone give me a 1-800 number for Gravis please?
	I've seen it, but I forget it now.

   Also, my dealer says he can get a bundles with the GUS that
    1) include the GUS, CHuck Yeager FS, and  ultraclear.
    2) the GUS and Yeager and a Joystick.

    The second one sounds reasonable, but what's the 'ultraclear' thing?
  Anyone ever heard of that?  If so what is it?

 Also anyone know when the new software will get bundled with the GUS.

Thanx!
From: bz528@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph W. Maruschek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS questions
Date: 20 Dec 1992 07:09:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz528@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph W. Maruschek)
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In a previous article, ptran@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) says:

>In article <BzByFM.n5@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl> zonnevel@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (B.J.Zonneveld.tel-015-622622) writes:
>>
>>  I am very happy with the card but I want to hear some more asskicking midi-
>>  files using 16-bit samples and stereo! Anyone got any of these or know where
>>  to get em?
>
>They already exist, but since the current Windows GUS drivers can only do 
>8-bit, mono, you will need to play them with Playmidi in DOS.

Really?  Isn't that 8-bit limit imposed on digital recording?  I would
think that the MIDI playback would use the same 16-bit samples that
playmidi does.  However, I have heard that the MIDI driver only supports
12-note polyphony, and it appears that playmidi only supports 20-voice
polyphony.  ARRGH!
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From: cmetz@thor.tjhsst.edu (Craig Metz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Linux sound driver 0.4 out, includes PAS 16 support, full source
Date: 19 Dec 1992 20:49:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

	Just to spread the news for those who are interested in seeing
(mostly) working source code for using a PAS 16 to its capabilities in a
non-DOS environment, version 0.4 of the sound card driver for Linux has
been out for a couple of weeks. The primary author of the driver is 
Hannu Savolainen (hsavolai@cs.helsinki.fi), and I wrote some of the PAS-
and PAS 16-specific code. It is distributed in source-only form as
nic.funet.fi:/pub/OS/Linux/xtra/snd-kit/snd-driv-04.tar.Z. In the same
subdirectory, one can obtain high-level client programs that use the
driver such as a modified version of the str module player program. 

	The code should be a good reference for people working to get
the PAS2-series cards supported under other 386 UNIXen and other non-DOS
operating systems. Not supported at this time are the National Semiconductor
volume and mixer chips on the non-PAS 16 boards (which we plan to support
if we can get tech info on them) and the original PAS cards (which there are
no plans to support). 

	Note that there are a few known bugs in this package that will be
fixed in a future release. Feel free to contact me for info on what we've
found to be unreliable or the code in general. Since Media Vision is going
to a good length to open the innards of their boards up to programmers who
wish to support the card, people writing drivers should seriously attempt
to support their products. 

	And again, I reiterate the call for people to ignore those 
manufacturers who believe that by only providing detailed information on 
programming their cards to game companies and providing a minimal SDK for 
people willing to sign a nondisclosure agreement barring the licensee from 
developing software using the information in the SDK. Not to name anybody in 
particular, mind you. No joystick manufacturers some to mind at all.

								-Craig
From: silk@mcl.ucsb.edu (ken mencher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: SoundBlaster Pro for sale
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:49:09 GMT

apologies for this, but i can't figure out your mail path....

please e-mail me back...i'm interested...


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From: meshreki@zip.ee.udel.edu (Samer Meshreki)
Subject: Re: More on OPTi chipset with GUS
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:19:04 GMT

zaphod writes:
+>Ian Mercado writes:
+>>BTW...one more v-e-r-y strange thing about the GUS.  Occassionally, the
+>>computer would absolutely not boot when the GUS was installed.  I tracked
+>>down the problem and figured out when I had the cover removed from the
+>>case, the computer would boot.  But if I put the cover back on, the computer
+>>would not boot.  (It would get past the memory check stage, but refuse to
+>>read anything from the hard drive.)  When I took the GUS out, the computer
+>>would always boot fine.
+>>Can ANYONE offer an explanation for this sort of behavior???
+>
+>I was at a local computer store over a year ago.  One employee was
+>putting together a system.  It was up and running without the cover
+>on, so he put the cover on and proceeded to tighten the screws.
+>When he tightened one screw, the computer totally turned off.  He
+>loosened it and it turned on and proceeded to boot.  He tried this a
+>few times, and it did this every time.  He was perplexed.  I too
+>would like to know why these things happen.  Does anyone know?

Similar problems like those also happened to me.  However, the problem
turned out to be the motherboard -- it wasn't properly seated and had
a slight bend!  Drove us crazy for hours until someone noticed it from
the side.

Sam
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GUS problems
From: Roger S. Dastick <RSDASTIC@MTUS5.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 13 Dec 1992 15:39:50 EST
Organization: Computing Technology Services, Michigan Technological Univ.

Well, I'm having some problems. I can't get SBOS to work, and adding RAM makes
Star Control ][ mess up. Secifically, when SBOS is run, nothing can tell that
it's been loaded. Nothing will recognize the emulator. SBOS does play that
sound saying it's been installed, but no go. (Try "sbos -d", fun eh?) Also,
loading SBOS with the -x3 parameter locks the computer (still have C-A-D, tho)
Now, this isn't crucial since I still have my original Sound Blaster (version
1.0!) which happily coexists with the GUS, but I would like to try this.

The other problem occurs with Star Control ][. Adding 256k to the card doesn't
seem to bother it, but add another 256k and eventually it'll start messing
up the music, add the last 256k and it'll start messing up immediately.
It'll mess up loading the samples for the songs, and mess up the single note
at the beginning save/load/quit menu. This seems really strange to me, add
memory to find the bugs.

Now for the relative information: 386sx 20Mz Intel chipset, basic VGA,
WD1006V-SR2 Hard/Floppy drive controller(RLL) with 2 drives 2 floppys,
and a Multi-I/O card (which isn't the problem, I took it out and it
did the same thing). MSDOS 5.0.

I've tried all the settings I could think of to solve these problems (with
the SB NOT in, mind you!), and nothing worked.

Please, although it's not a priority, I'd like to get these problems fixed.
Any help would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks.

BTW, I've been able to grab the music out of Star Control ][. If only we
had a native GUS MOD player!
From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS & OS/2
Date: 10 Dec 1992 22:10:36 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: USA
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In article <1992Dec10.021113.17615@doug.cae.wisc.edu> calica@cae.wisc.edu (Carlo James Calica) writes:
>I've heard a lot about the GUS and am impressed.  Problem is I run OS/2. I
>know OS/2 drivers for the GUS aren't out yet, but will the GUS dos drivers
>work under dos emulation?  I know the Window probably won't but I really
>don't care about windows.

There were several people who did have it working under OS/2's DOS full
screen window. As long as you can find a "safe" combination of IRQs and
base addresses, you'll be ok. I can't because I have too many other
cards inside the machine (bus mouse, 2 serial ports, tape card....etc)
so I had to rely on DOS tricks of using IRQ 7 where IRQ 7 is really for
the printer but it works ok in DOS. ANd then there are those without bus
mouse and com2 so IRQ5 is free, but not me. So it's a matter of mixing
and matching and it depends on your system. But you maybe able to get it
to work without needing the OS/2 native driver (which is coming one of
these days!).

Thomas.
From: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se (Brad Steele)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS-16 and Falcon 3.0d
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:54:32 GMT
Reply-To: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

Here's one for the "The Last Thing Computers
Are is Logical" category.  I've been having
trouble getting digitized speech out of Falcon
3 since I upgraded to a 386-40.  After posting
several requests for help some kind soul finally
posted a message suggesting I take my computer
out of turbo mode and run Falcon that way.  I'm
thinking, "Sure, I'll get digitized speech but
it'll run like a sloth".  I tried it anyway and
here's what happened...

The opening scene came up and I got sound that
went sort of, "Chunk...chunk...chunk...".  No
graphics.  It just sat there chunking.  Realizing
that nothing was happening I put it back into
turbo.  Boom!  Here come the jets.  The birds are
chirping, the bombs are exploding, the radio
comments are squawking.  From then on it worked
great.  I got all the sounds I should and the
rest of the game went as usual.

Anyone even want to touch that one?

Brad

Internet: exubrst@exu.ericsson.se
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From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: MPU 401 info, and SOX conversion utility
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:56:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: is the bane of the creative

I have been asked the location of the SOX sound conversion utility.  I
know it exists on wuarchive.wustl.edu ftp site.  I belive it exists in
several forms (MS DOS, unix, amiga, etc.)  For the MS DOS version look
in mirrors/msdos/sound.

Now, a forwarded answer to my question about the difference between 
MPU-401 midi and UART midi...


The MPU 401 is a 'smart' midi interface that was developed for the
super slow original IBM XT machines. Those machines were too slow to
handle midi diectly, so the 401 was made to offload the processing.
The 401 includes a small microprocessor, and can be set up to handle
most of the midi work. Then the PC only has to send it basic commands
like, play a sequence of notes at x clock rate. 
 
The mpu 401 also includes a dumb UART mode (similar to a standard
serial port, but set up for midi speed, and midi connectors). I have
heard that in more recent years some sequencers are using the 401 as a
dumb UART because the host machine can do a better job of midi
processing than the old MPU 401 processor. (ie 386 machines etc..)
 
So now a bunch of new midi cards are on the market (sound blaster etc)
that only have a dumb UART on them, and they skip the rest of the
'smart hardware' on a 401, because 'no one uses the smart stuff
anymore'.
 
Here comes pure conjecture on my part...
 
I imagine (but I don't know for sure) that Some of the new dumb UART
midi ports are hardware compatible with the dumb UART mode of an MPU
401. The Sound Blaster is NOT one of these. The GUS is not one of
these. 
 
Alan Alvarez at Advanced Gravis told me that the GUS midi port is not
Software Compatible with the Sound Blaster Port, but that you could
use the Sound Blaster midi adapter cable with the GUS. This means you
can't get the GUS midi in/out to work with soundblaster midi
drivers.  
 
Under Windows, if your application calls the Microsoft Windows midi
stuff, then MIDI OUT works. (I have tried it with my DX7 synthesizer
and Yamaha Midi Drum machine). There seems to be no MIDI IN Windows
driver yet with the GUS, although I have heard it will be out very
soon. 
 
In summary it seems a bit early to be able to use the GUS for MIDI
sequencing, although I assume this will be resolved inside the next
month or so!! (It better...)
 
Hope that helps.
 
(I would have posted this but I broke my News setup...!!)
 
Gord Wait
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From: lestrade@ra.msstate.edu (John Patrick Lestrade)
Subject: Re: When will multichannel get equal time?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:53:22 GMT

cyberman@exucom.com (Stephen R. Phillips) writes:


>Christopher Lane (NETOPRBL@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.edu) wrote:
>: Anyone got a rational answer? Any company reps out there wanna make me feel
>: less forgotten?

>	the reason why micro channel based cards are more expensive is
>because MICRO channel is EXPENSIVE to build cards for.  Another legit
>reason is MARKET share the Micro channel market is small compared to

And let's all rejoice that the microchannel did not succeed.  Let's not
forget that the MCA was ibm's attempt to steal the PC market away from 
all of the clone makers.  IF they had succeeded, the PC would now cost
as much as Mac's.
patrick

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From: lu-chien-ping@cs.yale.edu (Chien-Ping Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: NEC CDR 84 -> CDR 74?
Date: 11 Dec 1992 17:32:18 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: category.systemsz.cs.yale.edu


I have a NEC CDR 84 that came with Media Vision's pro 16 multimedia
upgrade kit. Now I feel that I prefer putting my CD-ROM drive on my desk
rather in my tower case pc. 
I heard that CDR 74 is nothing but a CDR 84 in a cabinet.
The question is: is it possible that I buy the cabinet and a
external SCSI cable somewhere?

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