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From: allen.pilevsky@factory.com (Allen Pilevsky) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: TELNET
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: allen.pilevsky@factory.com (Allen Pilevsky) 


        Does anyone know of a place in N.Y (area code, 516,718, or 212)
that I can call which will give me access to telnet. Can I get such
access without 'joining' or 'paying' something. I've trying a few
universities in New York. The best luck I had was with NYU. It had
'telnet' on its main menu, another words I didn't have to be a member of
NYU Unix to use it. But it did not work. Does anyone have any ideas?




Allen Pilevsky--
From: clay@panix.com (Clay Irving)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Internet access in 212 area?
Date: 28 Dec 92 10:19:46 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <kFpPrADFBh107h@carlos> carlos@carlos writes:

>In <1992Dec24.054043.6002@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

>>Does anyone know of any dialups with telnet access in the New York 212
>>area?  

>>Any help would be greatly appreciated.

>.. telnet into phantom.com or in NYC dial 212-988-5030 2400,8,N,1

>It's called the MindVox system, and it has a very eclectic user base!
>They run a WAFFLE system with telnet and irc facilities to registered
>and verified users. They currently charge a monthly fee for access.

>...telnet into panix.com or email postmaster@panix.com

>PANIX is NY's Public Access Unix, and they provide all INET services
>including FTP, and telnet. They too charge a monthly fee, but I lost
>the connect numbers. They will be happy to email you a info blurb
>on costs and services.

The number is 212-787-3100 -- send email to alexis@panix.com

>dialup the Dorsai Embassy at 718-729-5018 2400,8,N,1

>Although they aren't a "live" site, Dorsai does offer email and usenet
>news for all users. They have a liberal trial period, and afterwards
>ask for a contribution of $ 25.00 yearly to help offset costs involved.
>Soon they will be going live and offer most services as the other two
>sites. 
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From: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: RE: INTERNET NEWSGROUP RE
Date: 1 Jan 93 12:54:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: HAL 9000 BBS, W-NET HQ, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
Reply-To: victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman) 

thantos@runic.via.mind.org (Paul Williams [SysOp]) once said:

-> I  dunno,  I  think  the  fact  I  can't  use my standard QWK reader
-> to *really* sort on TO:s or SUBJ:s or even FROM:s  is  pretty
-> bloody useless.  I  like  Waffle for newsreading myself.  :)
-> Not that you could tell from my headers or anything...

The uuPCB software DOES retain as much TO:, FROM:, and SUBJECT: matter
that will fit in its fields.

You need WinQwk 2.0b.  This offline QWK reader will sort by message
number, to, from, or subject.
                                                                                                                      
----
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
| HAL 9000 BBS +1 313 663 4173 or 663 3959 | Four 14.4k v.32bis dial-ins |
| Public Access QWK-to-Usenet gateway      | With PCBoard 14.5aM & uuPCB |
+------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Public access to internet in Luxembourg
Date: 1 Jan 93 11:13:33 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England


In article <1992Dec31.225142.8760@panix.com>, oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl) writes...
> 
>If you have not already done so, you should post this in 
>alt.internet.access.wanted.
> 

This group disappeared from my newsgroup file several months ago - I presume
it doesn't exist anymore.

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New internet address: craig@smo.ac.uk (working now)
Voice after 7th Jan: +[44] 31 554 2926
Moving to Edinburgh, yahoo!
From: tjordan@atlas.corp.sgi.com (Ted Jordan)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Michigan Internet Access (Detroit?)
Date: 30 Dec 92 06:15:17 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


Internet access in MI?  Where?  (Sorry, no alt.bbs.internet.wanted here)

thanx

tj
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Patricia Snyder-Rayl)
Subject: Advertise your BBS in CONNECT
Organization: GREX Public Access Unix +1 313 761 3000
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:06:44 GMT



                    Advertise Your BBS in CONNECT!

CONNECT is a new magazine focusing on telecommunications from a user's
perspective, showing how to get the most from the places you call.  The
first bi-monthly issue of CONNECT will be available in March, 1993.
Deadline to get your BBS advertised in the premier issue of CONNECT is
January 31, 1993.

Issue after issue, CONNECT shows you how to get the most from the
commercial online services you're using -- CompuServe, Delphi, America
Online, Prodigy, GEnie and BIX. With columnists on staff to cover these
services in depth, you'll find CONNECT a valuable resource.

But CONNECT doesn't stop there. BBS callers also receive a wealth of
information from each issue. All varieties of computer platforms are
covered in the pages of CONNECT, as are the many different types of
bulletin board software and services found on these computers. Articles
spotlighting BBSes in specific cities or similar categories (such as
medical BBSes or handicapped-related systems) appear regularly.

Signing up your BBS is very simple and inexpensive. CONNECT offers a
choice of a one-line entry or a service ad, giving you blocks of 280
characters, to promote your BBS. 

For more information, and a copy of the BBS advertising form, please
contact Patricia Snyder-Rayl at 3487 Braeburn Circle, Ann Arbor, MI
48108, phone 313-973-8825, or via CIS (70007,4640), Delphi and GEnie
(unicornpub) or Internet (pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us).
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: skfhung@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Sebastian Hung)
Subject: Public Access to internet in 416 area code
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: ont
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:01:38 GMT


Does anyone know is there any public access site (free of charge) to
internet in the Metro Toronto area ??

Thx.....

Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: macarthu@ee.ualberta.ca (Thomas MacArthur)
Subject: Internet Newsgroup Server Help
Summary: Need to find someplace to be able to read all newsgroups
Keywords: Mail Internet Accounts
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:25:38 GMT

Currently, our server doesn't allow me to get any alt.binaries.  To say the least, this bites!  Anywasy, I was wondering if there were any public access account
s that I could get that'll allow me to read all the newsgroups.  I'm not looking
for an internet dial-in (since I already have an internet account), but I'm 
looking for a places that lets you have a shell account (or at the very least 
let's me use nn..)

Thanks
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Sunday, 20 Dec 1992 23:34:24 EST
From: David Pincus <PINHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject:    NYC internet access wanted

Anyone know of a NYC internet access site? I need the usual ftp, telnet
etc. Email to
David Pincus, internet:pinhc@cunyvm.cuny.edu bitnet:pinhc@cunyvm
From: julio.juncal@factory.com (Julio Juncal) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: CONNECT Magazine
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:55:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-8298v.32bis
Reply-To: julio.juncal@factory.com (Julio Juncal) 

TO: pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us.
I'll appreciate if you send me a subs form to:
Julio Juncal, 310 E. 46th Street, Apt. 10Q, New York, NY 10017.
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From: klaus@cscns.com (Klaus Dimmler)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Commerce Business Daily on-line provided by CNS
Date: 28 Dec 92 13:30:51 GMT
Organization: Community_News_Service
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


Starting Jan 4, 1993, CNS will offer the Commerce Business Daily on line.
You will be able to do a keyword search, and view the results on the
screen. You will have the option of sending a given result to your email
address. 

This is part of CNS's new offering called "BusinessLink".  Access is
offered by one of the following methods: 
 
       1) A Colorado Springs number  719-520-1700
       2) A Denver number            303-756-2656
       3) Telnet access at cscns.com
       4) An 800 number

All methods of access are charged at $3.95 per hour, except the 800
service. The 800 service is $8.00 per hour. A minimum charge of $10 is
made every month. There is a one-time start-up fee of $35. 
 
To subscribe, please call CNS during working hours via voice at
719-592-1240. After Jan 4, you may also subscribe to "Business Link"
on-line if you are paying with any major credit card. 

CNS cannot guarrantee these rates beyond March, 1992. This is because CNS
pays a high price for the CBD information. It is hoped that our very low
price attracts enough users to make up the cost. If this is not the case
by March, the price must be increased accordingly. 
 
We are anxious to evaluate the interest in this service. If you have
interest, comments, or questions please drop me a line. 

CNS is a full service Internet provider, offering slip, uucp, and dial-up
services to the Internet. 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
From: mt@kram.org (Mark Turner)
Subject: Re: This could happen to you! Need Internet access in London 
Distribution: world
Organization: Demon Systems Limited / Demon Internet Services
Reply-To: mt@kram.org
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:18:01 +0000

In article <724983962snz@pc60.demon.co.uk> haeb@pc60.demon.co.uk writes:
>    Send a mail to internet@demon.co.uk asking about access.
>Demon offers full Internet access at about 10 UKP per month.

Thanks Harry. :)

>However - if you currently have a FQDN I'm not sure what they
>would do.

We offer various levels of service and can provide either full IP or
mail/news only connections to the Internet for sites that have their
own network/domain. Please phone the office if you'd like more details.

Sales/Technical Support is open every day except Bank Holidays over the
holiday on 081 349 0063. The support line (081 343 3881) is manned
whenever the person on support is awake. Alternatively, send email to
internet@demon.co.uk, include your postal address if you'd like an
information pack.

Regards,

Mark.

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Office: mark@demon.co.uk (+44 81 349 0063)       42 Hendon Lane, London
Home: mt@kram.org (+44 831 823 212)                  N3 1TT, England
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From: alberg@netlan.jpr.com (Al Berg)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Internet access in 212 area?
Keywords: internet 212 nyc
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 16:35:59 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: NETLAN, Inc. LANLINK ONLINE BBS - New York City

mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

> Does anyone know of any dialups with telnet access in the New York 212
> area?  
> 
One efficient way to get telnet, mail and FTP anywhere is via Delphi.  
For $23/month you get 20 hours online and up to 10M of traffic.  
Additional hours are $1.80, additional traffic is expensive ($1 per 
100K).

You can signup online by calling 800-544-4005.  There is a startup fee as 
well.

There is a system called Mindvox in NYC (dial up to 212-988-5030 at 2400 
bps) that is supposed to be offering telnet after the first of the year.  
This is a nice system - check it out.

Hope this helps...

Al


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Al Berg, CNE                                                 NETLAN, Inc.
Network Emergency Response Dude                       29 West 38th Street
alberg@netlan.jpr.com                                 New York, NY  10018
Phone: 212/768-2273 x211     Fax: 212/768-2301                        USA
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From: Mike Pearl <mpearl@pes.com>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: INTERNET
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 21:47:32 EST
Organization: Professional Exchanges Services, Inc.

robinson@whitebase.ukp.com (Eric Robinson) writes:

> HELP! Does anyone know how I can obtain a national list of INTERNET BBS's?  
> I have two friends that I would like to contact over the internet.  One 
> lives in Maryland (area 410) and the other is in Louisiana (area 318).  I 
> need to find an INTERNET board that is local to each of them.  I would 
> appreciate any help.  Thanks

Eric,

I offer Internet access from my BBS in Maryland.  I'm in the 301 area code,
but, provided they are only using it to send and receive personal E-Mail, you
can't beat my rates.

ProfEx BBS (Node 1) 301-907-0349

Michael (mpearl@pes.com)

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     Michael Pearl      |       Professional Exchange Services
     mpearl@pes.com     |       Bethesda, MD
                        |       (301) 907-0349
Xref: sparky alt.bbs.internet:4802 alt.bbs:7682 alt.bbs.ads:1984 alt.bbs.lists:1624
From: greenie@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet,alt.bbs,alt.bbs.ads,alt.bbs.lists
Subject: Internet Access Available
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:29:15 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club



Attention Internet Users:

There is an Online Service reachable through the Internet that offers 
stimulating conversation and entertainment.  We offer Usenet NEWS and other
local message areas.  We also have File Transfers available for many computer
types, with either modem or network file transfer capability (XMODEM, ZMODEM
and FTP).

We have access to several MUDs including Vincents Hollow, and great
multi-player games such as Conquest, a full-screen space battle game,
and other entertainment sections, such as a CB Simulator and IRC Chat.
We host weekly CB conferences on various topics ranging from education
instruction practices to events on current affairs.  People from all over
the world participate in our message areas - bringing the world closer
together to form a global meeting place.

One of our active local message areas is "Skeptics Abound", where we're
presently discussing and debating the existence of "UFO's".  Pop in and
join the conversation.

We offer Internet access to all users, however Commercial users are
restricted to non-NSFnet access.  Only Educational and Research uses
are permitted over the NSFnet.

TELNET, FTP, MAIL, FINGER, and TALK access is available online.

The name of the system is the IDS World Network.  To access the system;

      Modem:  (401) 884-9002   (high speed numbers available upon request)
      Internet:      telnet ids.net   [155.212.1.2]

Members of the Education and Research community are invited to participate,
as we are constantly looking to link users from these groups together.  We
are presently involved with connecting the State of Rhode Island and it's
K-12 schools to the Internet, and are interested in sharing experiences
with Internet in the classroom.

Andy, green@ids.net
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: Help! Need internet access in NYC
Date: 31 Dec 92 22:50:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <20620@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> skchin@jalapeno.engr.ucdavis.edu (Mystic) writes:

>I am looking for a telephone number in the NYC area (preferably
>  in the 718 area code) that I can call to connect (telnet or rlogin
>  without first having to log onto a NY computer account) to my 
>  computer account in California.  A number to a local university 
>  would by fine.  Thanks for any help you can provide... :)

Two thoughts -- 

this posting belongs more properly on alt.internet.access.wanted

Try calling up 212-787-3100 with your modem to get info on panix.


-- 
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30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY  10112-0228
voice 212-408-2578     fax 212-765-2519
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: bbs internet - holland
Date: 1 Jan 93 23:43:09 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Dec31.4966.6696@dosgate> "richard mohammed" <richard.mohammed@canrem.com> writes:

>Hello

>I am trying to get information on Public Access BBS's in Holland with
>Internet/Usenet Access.  Particularly I am looking for BBS's in the City
>of Zoetermeer.

If you have not already done so, you might post to the group that is 
really the right one for this question -- alt.internet.access.wanted.


-- 
Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (intellectual property lawyer)
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY  10112-0228
voice 212-408-2578     fax 212-765-2519
From: adrienne.franco@execnet.com (adrienne franco)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: internet access anywhere
Date: 30 Dec 92 04:24:57 GMT
Reply-To: "adrienne franco" <adrienne.franco@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

Many messages in this conference ask about internet access at a particular
location of the USA or other countries.  Many messages include desired
area code.

There are messages on this conference concerning Frequently Asked Questions
(FAQ) about the Internet.  One of these messages refers to a file called:
PDIAL.  PDIAL is a file which listed names, phone nos. (voice and access)
of BBS' in the USA and other countries.  

Try sending a message to: info-deli-server@netcom.com
Leave subject line blank.
First and only line of text should read: Send PDIAL

Or, PDIAL may be available as a downloadable file on your BBS.  

The PDIAL list should answer these questions about access.  It lists
BBS' which provide *full* internet access.  Many more bbs' offer
*limited* internet access (e.g. email and conference groups only).
The BBS I belong to (Execnet) is an example of the latter.

Please look at other messages in this conference (alt.bbs.internet) for
the FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) about the internet I referred to
earlier.

Hope this helps!

Adrienne Franco
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From: thantos@runic.via.mind.org (Paul Williams [SysOp])
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: RE: INTERNET NEWSGROUP RE
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 09:13:36 EST
Organization: Runic Writings / Lawrenceville, GA


victor.volkman@hal9k.ann-arbor.mi.us (Victor Volkman)  writes:

> Its not that big of a hassle.  The only real hassle is having to enter
> the "TO: " line separately from the actual "TO" field in the QWK header.
> I think QWK BBS links are still the best way to get Usenet out to the
> general public.  Sure a hell of a lot easier than any newsreader I've
> ever seen. . . .

   I  dunno,  I  think  the  fact  I  can't  use my standard QWK reader to
        *really* sort on TO:s or SUBJ:s or even FROM:s  is  pretty  bloody
        useless.  I  like  Waffle for newsreading myself.  :) Not that you
        could tell from my headers or anything...


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From: kjv@exucom.com (Karl J. Vesterling)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.internet
Subject: Re: internet newsgroup reading via .QWK packets
Date: 27 Dec 92 02:45:55 GMT
Organization: ExuCom Multimedia Inc.

In article <X6HcwB6w165w@visavis.cam.org> abolins@visavis.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:

[ Misc stuff deleted about QWK & offline USENET ]

>> does this make sense to anyone else?
>
>Makes sense to me.  But I guess the concept never crossed the unix mind.
>

	Well, there are a few things open for debate.


	1) QWK Sizes, and limits.  USENET is quite a lot of traffic
	   for QWK.

	For instance, it's a lot faster for me to go through my news
with TRN and select the threads that I'm interested in and read them
on-line than it would be to transfer all of the traffic in that group
to my machine and read it there.

	With the above in mind it's also a consideration for the
slower speed modems.  If you only read what you're interested in, then
there is a lot of un-necessary information going into that QWK packet.


	2) QWK Readers, and the problems within them.

	On most BBS's I've noticed that messages and E-Mail live in
the same message base.  Whereas on a UNIX system they are independant
of each other (Thank god!).

	The QWK stuff on the UNIX side would have to differentiate
between private replies and public replies and submit them to mail, or
inews accordingly.

	With problems like BlueWave not making things private, and
other bugs out there I can't see it being stable on UNIX.


	I think that offline USENET would be an excellent idea if done
this way:

	Go into the users .newsrc, and find out what groups they're
subscribed to, and when was the last time they were read.

	Then with that information go to the *>NNTP<* server and
execute the following commands:

#Get the new news with the following:


newnews alt.bbs 921225 000000

230 New news by message id follows
<vpoy.2ws0@terapin.com>
<vpoy.2wry@terapin.com>
<1992Dec23.213034.5968@yenta.alb.nm.us>
[ Some articles deleted ]

	Then do:

head

head
221 470 <1992Dec22.080545.24089@u.washington.edu> Article retrieved; head follows.
From: jbiafra@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ding a Ding Dang My Ding a Long Ling Long)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: *.QWK For Citidel

	This get's the header to the article.

	Then execute ARTICLE to get the body of the article.

	Then execute NEXT to go to next article.

So, the commands are as follows:

newnews <groupname> yymmdd hhmmss
<List of article message id's>
header
<List the header.>
article
<list the article>
next
<go to next article>

<repeat process till end of group>
<adjust .newsrc accordingly>


Examine the .newsrc to see which they are subscribed to.

Repeat above process for articles.

	Which groups they are subscribed to can be done by a simple
grep for : in the .newsrc.


	As for posting, use the POST part of NNTP.


	As for the argument that not every system out there is running
NNTP, this is true, but then it will take more work on the portions of
the software to traverse the directory tree, etc...  All that is
required here is a simple "popen" to "telnet <nntpserver> 119".

	Using this scheme would make it usefull to universities as
well because chances are they don't have the news stuff NFS'ed to
every machine. ;-)  Also I might add that going about it with NNTP
would allow this stuff to be compiled by anyone, and as long as they
have an NNTP server they've got no problems.

	The same could go for mail as well, just a simple popen to
port 25 in lieu of 119.

	Quite simply I don't have time to do it, nor do I think that I
would utilize it.  I just thought that I would mention my viewpoints.
Seeing as I know little or nothing about the innards of QWK, I could
be wrong.

	Please re-direct any flames to /dev/null

	In short, another standard needs to be done in lieu of QWK.
And something other than UUCP because it requires effort on the system
administrator, and a regular polling schedule.

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