HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Suggestions needed....
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:42:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.080425.19672@rdg.dec.com>, veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV) writes:
> 
> 
> I guess what I don't understand is why is it that loving someone who has a 
> kid and was married is an insurmountable problem, but loving someone who 
> lives 10,000 miles away that you'll only see a couple times a year for 2 or 
> 3 weeks at a time is okay and surmountable?  Is it an age/maturity thing?  
> Is it something he'll 'grow out of'?  I've tried so hard to let him go... 

I don't think it is at least entirely an age thing.  I have friends who are
older than me and wouldn't consider a woman with kids (unless they are grown
and away from home), but I've never (after teenage years) had a problem.  I
have known people to change their views on the subject over time (whether
aging or other factors caused this I'm not sure).  It seems to me that if
he hasn't changed his mind after knowing and liking/loving you this long,
he isn't likely to do so in the future.  I don't give advice, with my track
record, I'm just expressing my own opinion.

Good luck.

> 
> -- KSV
> 


Larry Billings

PS.  I mentioned my teen years mainly because then I still believed I should
marry a virgin.
From: pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:07:46 GMT
Organization: Internet Refugee Camp

In the referenced article, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <74476@apple.apple.COM> pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh) writes:
> 
>|Cold and rainy, thanks, and my ProblemSlightlyOlderMan is
>|going through an unusual "I like Americans" phase and wants
>|to go to Burger King every weekend ...
>
>We'll if he didn't like Americans he wouldn't be your ProblemSlightlyOlderMan
>than would he?

Maybe, maybe not.  He told me: "Funny, you don't LOOK American." ;-)

Pooh
	pooh@apple.com
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:45:40 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
 <lgl06rINNqsi@news.bbn.com> <j#mqpg#@lynx.unm.edu> <h4y1#k=@rpi.edu>
 <thurlow.722465178@convex.convex.com>

As for self reliance, and being non-needy, and what not, well,
the only person who you _know_ is on your side in a crisis is you.

Doesn't mean I wouldn't go bug without people to talk to, just that
I recognize that the macro-cosmic all thinks I'm my own responsibility.
So it seems expedient to agree with it.

Graydon
From: liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Argh! Total, Complete misery.
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:49:49 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Paramax Systems

In article <1992Nov13.221808.3413@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov6.061049.23905@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bathsheba.Grossman@launchpad.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman) writes:
|> 
|> >My problem is what to tie _to, as the nomadic lifestyle doesn't include
|> >four-posted heavy-framed pickled-oak beds.  I'm thinking of running
|> >carriage bolts through the floor but don't know that mon cher landlord
|> >will understand.
|> Trygve   (Or pick up one of the many waterbed frames that show up at
|>           garage sales where people pretty much just want them hauled
|>           off--and then donate it to someone else next time the urge
|>           to peregrinate overcomes you.) 


Mine's for sale...and it's a four-posted one.  Of course you'll have to wait
till after the boink!

Liz Loquacious
From: marcia@netcom.com (Marcia)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:01:22 GMT
Organization: The Dolphin Conspiracy, Phase II

In article <1992Nov15.210121.18247@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>This is for all of the Over-College Age folks out there: how many of you
>reading this are recent college grads that have accepted that High
>Paying Job that you went to school for in the first place that is
>located somewhere other than where you were either (a)raised,
>(b)schooled, or (c)would like to be?  Have you become involved with
>someone that you met since you moved to said location?  How did you
>meet, seeing as how you were in a new area where you had no friends?

I was in this position about 6.5 years ago, when I moved from the East Coast,
where I'd spent my whole life, to Beautiful Downtown Silicon Valley. The first
few months were pretty rough, since the only people I knew were some friends
from school who had graduated earlier, and had already established lives. But
then I found a social support system. The funny thing was, it was.....USENET.

Ok, the net was much smaller and somewhat friendlier at the time (I started
before the great renaming :-), and I happened to be located in an area with
a high proportion of net.folks. I ended up meeting a lot of people via the 
net, and they still make up the vast majority of my friends. And email makes
arranging social outings just that much easier :-).

I can't say I like the climate any better (dammit, I want *weather*!! :-),
and the bagels are still too small, but by meeting folks and making friends
I've been amazingly happy here.
-- 
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Marcia Bednarcyk                                  ADDRESSES: marcia@netcom.com
"Sweaty Snugglebunnies."                                     mlb@cisco.com
From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy Zagar)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Prove That Kids are Precious Gifts Fr
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:43:33 GMT
Reply-To: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware

General comments on Proofs of the Existence of God:

  First, I'd like to thank H. Sakata for his reply.  Yes,
  I know this is a suck-up, but I don't care.  Sue me.

  Second, before we embark on a 'scientific' proof for the
  existence of God, I'd like to point out that there isn't
  any 'scientific' proof that *we* exist.

  I've found that I have less philosophical problems with
  situations like this once I realized that scientific theories
  are never factual.  They are not facts, they are not Truth.
  I see them as mathematical descriptions, nothing more.  If the
  theory is *really* good, then they're astonishingly convenient
  descriptions, but they're still descriptions.

General comments on "Kids are Precious Gifts..."

  First off, kids are kids.  Nothing more, nothing less.  Any value
  we place on them has more to do with our perception of them than
  anything else.  Some people see them as "Precious Gifts", and others
  see them as "Rug-rats that mess up my life".

  Any statement that starts with "OBJECT is/are ADJECTIVE" is a statement
  about that individual's perception of OBJECT and should be considered
  as such.

Now that I've said my piece, I'm going to shut up.  

-Randy




---

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| Randy Zagar                                 Thinking: that waste of time   |
| Internet: zagar@Chester.CMS.UDel.Edu        between seeing something and   |
| Bell-net: 302/831-1139                      knowing what to do about it.   |
\____________________________________________________________________________/
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am wome
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:19:43 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:

>Here are some numbers.  The average duration of human copulation is about
>four minutes.  

Ninety seconds is a more commonly quoted figure. 

>more distant cousin, the orangutan, manages about twenty minutes on average.
>(Orangs also prefer to copulate in the trees rather than on the ground.)

Wow. If I were copulating in a tree, I think I'd want to hurry up.

>Among mammals, though, the record-holder is some rodent at twelve hours!

Even more impressive if you consider that as a percentage of the rodent's
life-span.

--
Stef                  I'll take Fucking Clues for $200.   --Mark
stef@apple.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re:      Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:22:21 GMT

In article <15518@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.210816.29846@eagercon.com> eager@eagercon.com writes:

>>At first I couldn't think of anything from 1970-80.  I must have been dozing.
> 
>Neither could I.  'Cept my excuse is that I was a teenager in the 60's.
>
>Ironically, I remember more dramatic and traumatic events in the 60's.

I guess you weren't really there, then.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:42:52 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <JMD.92Nov19103911@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:

>At least you didn't call me Jason.  I had a boss once -- worked there
>for 5 summers.  Never did figger out my name.  Every time he said
>Jason, I'd correct him.  Asshole never did listen to a word I said.

I had a boss once, "Bob", who thought all "Robert"s liked to be called
"Bob" the way he liked to be called "Bob", and he called me "Bob" every
time I talked to him through my summers at the pulp mill.  To this day,
I refuse to answer to "Bob", though I will on occasion ask someone who
uses the name "Bob" who they might be referring to if there's no one else
around.

Rob T (!Bob)
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Seriousness.
Date: 21 Nov 92 20:51:19 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov19.080916.17490@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith) writes:

>can go through.  One is, "You are more important to me
>than other people in my life." Another is, "I want to share
>pleasure and joy with you."  Another one is, "I anticipate a future
>with you.  Another is, "I want to share my life with you."  Those
>don't necessarily involve physical proximity or sharing sp

Then there's "I don't really want to spend time with you or talk to
you, but I want to count you as a friend so that I can give your name
to a financial planner who's looking for more clients."

(Yup, that's close to what happened.  Made my week.)

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles,alt.religion.computers
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Minor Problem with the source code
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:51:02 GMT

gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews) writes:
] In article <1992Nov12.041104.8421@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
] >
] >We ProblemOlderWomen can only get the title
] >when we want sex MORE than our ProblemYoungerMen...
] >THAT is the Problem!!!
] >
] >Diana
] >(the ORIGINAL ProblemOlderWoman)
]       ^^^^^^^^
] 
] You mean Drieux's written a cp for POMs???  Wow.
] 
] Hey Drieux!  Can I get the source?  :)


Well, actually we were sort of hoping to fix the
bugs before we released a public distribution copy,
just one of those WildAndCrazyIdeas that struck me....


ciao
drieux

ps: Still having some Minor Problems with some of 
the Gender Class Objects....


-- 
Modern Day Problems:

Hi Diddle, Diddle, the Cat and the Fiddle,
The Cow Blew Up on the Launching Pad
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:14:43 GMT
	<1992Nov17.205924.11582@b8.b8.ingr.com> <lgipf2INN78a@news.bbn.com>
	<MARTINC.92Nov18123935@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> <lgl3e9INNro0@news.bbn.com>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: dhardin@bbn.com's message of 18 Nov 92 18:39:05 GMT

In article <lgl3e9INNro0@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:



   as obnoxious as I am.  Or they have a left-over fear of their last
   math teacher and they're terrified that I might try to integrate 
   something in front of them.

Oooh, baby, *baby*!
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
From: nikita@russia (John R. Hardy)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Suggestions needed....
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:37:44 GMT
Organization: Hardy & Assoc.


In article <1992Nov18.080425.19672@rdg.dec.com> veburst@contra.enet.dec.com writes:

 > 
 > 
 > I'd like your opinions, folks... this is a difficult situation for me and 
 > I'm somewhat at a loss about where to go from here.
 > 
 > I'll start off by giving a bit of background....
 > 
 > I'm 30 years old.  I was married for 8 years and have an almost 10-year old 
 > daughter.  I was mistreated emotionally and physically in my marriage and 
 > it unfortunately has left me with a fair amount of emotional scars and 
 > distrust in general.
 > 
 > My very best friend in the world is a 21 year old male.  I've never been so 
 > close (emotionally) as I am with him (not even with my ex).  I can honestly
 > say he is the only male that I trust implicitly never to brutalise me or
 > humiliate me the way my ex-husband did.  He has always treated me with
 > kindness, love, respect and tenderness. 
 > 
Dear KSV, 
        I long for a love of this sort.  Yet as you mentioned he has a
problem with you having been married, and having a child.  I remember being
21, and not wanting children.  I do now, and I'm only 24, 3 years later.
I believe it must be a maturity thing, but not an imaturity thing.  Love
is something good, and I think you should hold on to whatever love you two
have.  I have been though a lot in the past 2 years that have (so to speak)
made me grow up.  I used to be afraid of getting close to a woman with kids
because I wasn't mature enough to handle rasing them.  And I knew it.  I
don't think that I was all that imature though.  Perhaps this is what he
is going through?  I hope this helps a little.  I would like to be kept 
informed on how this goes.  Love is a tender thing.  Don't let go of what
you have.  But if he tells you about this other woman, and you get jealous,
don't have him tell you.  Caring needs to be for yourself as much as 
for him.

                          John R. Hardy
                        Midvale, Ut. 84047
                       email:  nikita@russia
Xref: sparky soc.singles:30845 ba.singles:2195
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:28:44 GMT
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus

In article <1992Nov12.131247.13092@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>
>Yes, Daniel wants to get into the Guiness Book of World Records with the
>most .sigs of anyone, so please make sure to send him a postcard with
>your favorite .sig on it.

Just in case anyone's too new to the Net to figure it out, the preceding
was an example of Craig Shergold's Disease.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: ISO MY PRINCESS
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:57:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.035448.6142@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>In article Iy8@access.digex.com, huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov20.002845.20217@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington) writes:
>>>Are eu therious? Marsupials don't even make it into the placentile
>>>rankings. They've adapted to a different set of test conditions and
>>>fail marsupially (and monotremously) in competition with many
>>>placentals. Theriously!
>>
>>Virginia oppossums beg to differ with you, sir!  Not only did their South
>>American relatives survive the invasion of North American placentals, but they
>>successfully invaded the placental stronghold.  (And the crawlspace underneath
>>the parental abode in Florida.)

Opossums are marsupials.  (Sorry about the earlier misspelling.)

>>>                        Cats and rats are major problems for
>>>Australia's native fauna.
>>
>>As they are for New Zealand's non-marsupial, native fauna.  Living on an
>>island, even one the size of a continent, is not conducive to developing
>>effective defense strategies.  But how, sir, did those placentals swim to
>>either Australia or New Zealand?
>
>In order to answer this I have to relate back to my studies of Plate Tectonics.
>Australia was once connected to the rest of the world by land. Did you ever hear
>of Pangea? The pangean continent broke apart and Australia drifted away from the
>rest of the world before the evolution of placentals. Placentals evolved in the 
>rest of the world while Australia was not connected to it by land.

Australia was connected to Antartica and South America and has been drifting
toward Asia.  It has not yet collided.  How did cats and rats reach Australia?
To help you out, I'll tell you that when Europeans arrived, the only placental
mammals in Australia were the aborgines, the dingos, and bats (rather obvious
how the bats got there).

>Marsupials were overrun by placentals in the rest of the world because placentals 
>were better equipped to compete for food & survival.

This is not true.  South America's marsupials were already in decline when
the Isthmus of Panama formed, but there are still plenty of marsupials in
South America, and many South American marsupials successfully invaded North
America.

>                                                     Cats, rats & rabbits are
>doing to Australia's marsupial population today what placentals did to marsupials
>in the rest of the world a long time ago.

But how did the cats, rats, and rabbits swim to Australia?

>Geuss my geology degree is good for something after all...

Your geology is quite sound, but this is also a question of zoology.

Marsupials are not second-class mammals.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
From: pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:06:01 GMT
Organization: Internet Refugee Camp

In the referenced article, aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>Interesting.  I was recently "forced" into purchasing a leather jacket
>at the behest of my ProblemOlderWoman,

Your ProblemOlderWoman has good taste.  What else is she
"forcing" you to wear? ;-)

>PS: So.  How's Switzerland?

Cold and rainy, thanks, and my ProblemSlightlyOlderMan is
going through an unusual "I like Americans" phase and wants
to go to Burger King every weekend ...

Pooh (in the Land of Extremely Punctual Chocolate)

	pooh@apple.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex
From: markr@mot.com (Mark)
Subject: Question: How to increase the male sex drive ?
Reply-To: markr@mcil.comm.mot.com
Organization: MCIL
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:58:47 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles

In article <1e93kmINNs8j@skat.usc.edu> tarra@skat.usc.edu (Tom) writes:
>In article <thurlow.721724974@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:
>
>>
>>Hey Tom, hasn't anybody told you yet that we spread that myth that young
>>men have better sex drives for the sole reason that we want to keep you
>>dumb little shits from offing yourselves before you reach voting age?
>>
>>Rob T
>>--
>>Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
>
>Wow thanks man, I was really worried for a minute there.  I didn't know if
>I was gonna kill myself or hold out and see if maybe they could develop some
>sort of pill that could keep my drive from shriveling up and dying like you
>older guys.  
>
>Oh by the way Rob, take it easy I hear it happens to lots of guys.  

On a serious note, I have a couple of questions to pose to the net about what
can affect a male's sex drive.  Basically, I am about 29 (male), have been
SO-less for the last 4 years (by choice), and have recently met an incredible
woman (about 31) with, to put it lightly, a very high sex drive.  My sex drive
has reduced markedly over the past 4 years, and I would like to do what I can
to increase it.  Question, is there any particular diet that is recommended ?
Is exercise particularly recommended ?  Anything else ?

Thanks,
Mark


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG (Larry 'Purple' Hays)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 21:08:57 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Technet   Albuquerque, NM
Reply-To: hays@TECHNET.NM.ORG

In article <74344@apple.apple.COM>, stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
>
>>   Sandra Loosemore (loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu) wrote:
>>   : I also consider wearing a suit and/or tie to be a bad sign (conformity).
>
>>Ugh.  That stereotype again.
>>The fact is that at least in the business I'm in (I write software for
>>an investment bank) either you wear the uniform of a suit and tie or
>>you don't work there.  <justification deleted>
>
>Sure sounds like conformity to me (conformity is doing what everyone
>else does because you feel you must to be accepted). However, just because 
>someone conforms in one area of his life doesn't mean that he conforms in 
>other areas. 

True.

Personally, I am expected to wear a tie at work, and I do.  I am paid fairly
well for doing so.  ( I *CAN* be bought, but I'm not cheap  :-)

But I kept the long hair and earring.  And I often wear a fish tie or my
greateful dead tie-dyed, steal-your-face tie.  They can make me wear a tie,
but they can't make me wear a BORING tie.  All in all, a pretty congenial
work atmosphere.  Anyway, so I do 'conform' in my own strange way.

But I ain't boring, and I ain't a 'conformist'.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Larry 'Purple' Hays                                      hays@technet.nm.org

            In fact, "belligerently contrary" comes closer......

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:53:00 GMT
Distribution: na
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <1992Nov21.002911.21473@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu ( ) writes:
>
>Why don't you e-mail that suggestion to my system administrators,
>in addition to the threatening e-mail you sent them today about
>my post.

As usual, you're lying, Dougie.  I've never sent threatening mail to your
or anyone else's system administrator.  Your own post to talk.abortion proved
that you're lying.

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)