HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tli@cisco.com (Tony Li)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: subnets of net A separated by net B?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 08:06:59 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: lager.cisco.com

In article <1992Dec18.042130.8184@draco.macsch.com> todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams) writes:

    Can I have two subnets physically separated by a different net?
Yes.    
    Let's say net A is 150.150, with subnets A1=150.150.10 and A2=150.150.20
    and net B is 75.  I have a bunch of hosts running RIP, and some CISCOs:
    
    ----A1-----(CISCO)..(CISCO)========B==========(CISCO)-------A2------
    
    The reason I'm doing this is that I'm changing the whole network from
    the B address to subnets of the A address.  The Ciscos communicate
    via IGRP and redistribute RIP.  All hosts run routed in quiet mode.
    
    The Cisco manual talks about using secondary addresses to accomplish
    this (I think), but their example is pitiful.
Sorry.  We've tried to fix this in later versions.  In any case, what you
want to do is to make A3=150.150.30 be the same a cable B.    

    I attempted to give the CISCO interfaces on net B secondary addresses
    that conform to the A network.  It didn't work.
What (exactly) did you do?
    
    The biggest problem, (maybe), is that the routing tables of the hosts
    on net B list the A network and NOT the A1 and A2 subnets.  (Currently
    all but the A2 subnet is in place).
The hosts shouldn't really care as long as it points to a router with good
routes. 

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From: broberts@wpi.WPI.EDU (broberts)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: slip help.
Date: 16 Dec 1992 03:54:44 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

I am hoping you can help me.

	We are looking for a good slip program to put into a MIPS type machine.

	The company I work for is looking to be able to use slip to dial into 
a machine and poll it for data.  If you know of a good slip program in C / C++
that we can use, or if you know a better place for me to ask, please send mail
to

	phm@concord.com

	Please do not reply to the user posting this message.

	I would appreciate any help you can give me.  
_____________________________________________________________________________

	Patrick H. Mullaney  - N1JEQ
	Systems Administrator
	Concord Communications		(508) 460-4646
	753 Forest St.			phm@concord.com
	Marlboro, MA  01752		n1jeq@concord.com
Xref: sparky comp.protocols.tcp-ip:5701 comp.unix.bsd:10477
From: guido@gvr.win.tue.nl (Guido van Rooij)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Limiting Telnet access.
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:58:09 GMT
Followup-To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip

matt@gecko.oes.orst.edu (Matt Curfman) writes:
#>I have placed a copy of wrapper.tar.Z on anonymous ftp at oes.orst.edu in
#>/pub/386bsd/wrapper.tar.Z.  There are many other sites for this software 
#>as well.
Just ftp it from ftp.win.tue.nl. This is the place where you can always
find the latest version of the tcp-wrapper.
#>-mc
#>_____________________________________________________________________________
#>Matt Curfman                                    Almanac Information Archivist 
#>matt@gecko.oes.orst.edu                     Oregon State University Extension
#
#-Guido
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.internals,comp.unix.programmer,comp.unix.misc
From: tdyck@fraser.sfu.ca (tReVoR)
Subject: if(7) network driver info needed
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:33:48 GMT

I am developing a STREAMS device driver under Microport Unix SVR4 on a
486 machine.  The driver is for a network card (ISDN).

I wish to link the STREAMS driver under the IP module, so that the
card can be accessed in the same way as an Ethernet card through
TCP/IP.  The network interface standard, as I understand from reading
through the documentation, is specified by if(7).  

Does anyone know if there is any way I can get more info on if(7)?  Right
now all I have is the manual page from the Network User's and Administrator's
Guide.  

In the manual page for if(7), it says that "network interfaces used by the
Internet Protocol (IP) must be STREAMS devices conforming to the Datalink
Provider Interface (DLPI)."  Does anyone know what the DLPI is and where
more information can be found about it?

Also, does anyone have experience with writing similar network interface
drivers (ie. for Ethernet or some other network)?



Any help is GREATLY appreciated!  

Trevor.

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: ronf@panther3.panther.mot.com (Ron Feigen)
Subject: Re: TLI: t_accept returns TLOOK (why?)
Organization: Motorola New Enterprises, Panther Project
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:12:01 GMT

testing
-- 

>
Ron Feigen
ronf@panther.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.windows.ms,comp.windows.x
From: nballou@lahaina.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nat Ballou)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP and X under MS Windows 3.1?
Reply-To: Nat.Ballou@ColumbiaSC.ncr.com
In-reply-to: olds@helix.nih.gov's message of Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:21:00 GMT
Organization: NCR
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:06:14

In article <1992Dec16.232100.22980@alw.nih.gov> olds@helix.nih.gov (James Olds) writes:

   In article <+0d26sf@rpi.edu> act@sun.ipl.rpi.edu (just another programmer) writes:
   >I am very curious about people's experiences running TCP/IP software
   >under Win 3.1.  I am contemplating putting an Xserver onto a machine running 
   >Win 3.1 and connecting it to a Unix host to run Unix apps over the net.
   >
   >So  what kind of experiences have people had and/or recommendations.  I've only
   >just begun tis so if there is any recommended reading that would also be
   >appreciated.
   >


     I am running Integrated Inference's Machine's X11AT Xserver and it
     runs very well under both Win 3.0 and 3.1. My one complaint is that
     the icons for the X apps when Windoze is running as the manager (as
     opposed to say mwm or twm) are very boring and non-informational.
     The software is running on a 386/25 with 9MB Ram, 100 MB HD and
     a VGA card. The network card is a 3com 3c502 running PC/TCP as
     a network kernel. Hope that helps.>


I'm using a product from NCR called NCR Windows.  I work for NCR, but on
another software product.  This product is very stable, and has a nice desktop
option that supports drag and drop under MS Windows.  The product supports a
vareity of TCP/IP packages (Sun PC-NFS, Beame and Whiteside, FTP, etc.).  I'm
running with Wollongong Pathway 2.0.  The configuration of the TCP/IP package
is a bit of rocket science, especially getting things to load high, but this
really has nothing to do with the NCR Windows X server.

I'm typing this reply in under Gnus running in an emacs X window on a Sparc
displaying on my 33 MHz 486 PC running MS Windows 3.1.  I get very good
performance.

Cheers,

Nat
Xref: sparky comp.protocols.tcp-ip:5606 comp.sys.mips:1124
From: gsa@easyaspi.udev.cdc.com (gary s anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.sys.mips
Subject: Re: maximum size of UDP datagrams [ethernet]
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:47:53 GMT
Reply-To: gsa@easyaspi.udev.cdc.com (gary s anderson)
Followup-To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip

In article <Bz2tLw.JH5@ecf.toronto.edu>, steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos) writes:
|> According to my calculations, the maximum size of a broadcast UDP
|> datagram is 1472 bytes, but on our MIPS machines (running RISC/os 4.52)
|> this does not work. Experimentation reveals that the 'magic number'
|> on MIPS machines is 1468. Broadcast packets 1472 bytes long work fine
|> for me on the SGI, SUN and VAX hosts I have tried.
|> 
|> Where did the other 4 bytes go?

Your calculations are correct.  My guess is that you have an
"eagle" ethernet board in your system (e.g. egl0).  If you
look at the "netstat -i" display you will discover that the
MTU size is "1496" and not "1500".  The reason for the decrease
in size was do to a DMA problem.  I don't know whether
the board has ever been fixed but the code still assumes
the bug exists.  The problem is only on the sending side since the
board can receive 1500 byte packets (i.e. otherwise it would
not interoperate with other systems sending 1500 byte packets).

NOTE - the integrated ethernets (e.g. la0) on the MIPS boxes
use the "1500" byte MTU.


|> 
|> calculation:
|> Broadcast UDP datagram cannot be fragmented, so it must fit into the
|> 1500 byte data portion of an ethernet frame. After sustracting 20 bytes
|> for the IP header, and another 8 bytes for the UDP header, you are left
|> with 1472 bytes for user data. [these numbers are based on the diagrams
|> on page 208 in "UNIX Network Programming" by W. Richard Stevens]
|> 
|> Also, what are the typical limits on regular UDP datagrams?
|> On our microvax, the max. size is 9000 bytes, while the SGI and
|> MIPS machines support much larger limits (haven't found the exact
|> number yet).
|> 
|> Thanks
|> 
|> -- 
|> Steve Kotsopoulos                   mail:   steve@ecf.toronto.edu
|> Systems Analyst                     bitnet: steve@ecf.UTORONTO.BITNET
|> Engineering Computing Facility      uucp:   uunet!utai!ecf!steve
|> University of Toronto               phone:  (416) 978-5898
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Looking for integrated mail-ftp-telnet-client for dos
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:00:39 GMT
Organization: School of Maths and Info Sciences, Massey University, NZ.

In article <SUNG.92Dec16231239@novi.novi.auc.dk> sung@novi.auc.dk (Mads Sung Bak Jensen) writes:
>Path: cc-server4.massey.ac.nz!comp.vuw.ac.nz!waikato.ac.nz!decwrl!olivea!uunet!mcsun!sunic!dkuug!iesd.auc.dk!news.iesd.auc.dk!sung
>Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
>Subject: Looking for integrated mail-ftp-telnet-client for dos
>Message-ID: <SUNG.92Dec16231239@novi.novi.auc.dk>
>From: sung@novi.auc.dk (Mads Sung Bak Jensen)
>Date: 17 Dec 92 07:12:39 GMT
>Sender: news@iesd.auc.dk (UseNet News)
>Distribution: comp
>Organization: NOVI, Nordjyllands Videnpark A/S
>Lines: 16



>HI there.... 
>The subject sais it all..

>I am looking for what you think is the best PD mail-,ftp- and telnet
>client for Dos.

>If you have experiences with such an application, then please
>email 
>     sung@novi.auc.dk
>and tell me where to get it.....

>Thanks in advance...

>/// Mads ///
NUPOP - pop mail client for the PC! It also does Gopher, Finger, Webster and 
name-lookup! The author has just added the ftp and telnet features to 
version 1.1 (alpha), so they are still a bit rough, but its a great mail 
reader and the next test version of it will be here RSN (real son now).
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: jiliu@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jian Liu)
Subject: Re: Internet compatibility with WINQVT
Reply-To: cliff@engin.umich.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:52:16 GMT

Never heard of MUD before.  But have you tried version 3.03 of winqvt?

Jian
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: mike@maria.wustl.edu
Subject:  Can I use a secondary name server as a primary Hesiod server?
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 18:37:27 CST
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X-To: comp.protocols.tcp-ip.usenet


For political reasons, I can't be the primary nameserver for my own
group of machines.  I have a secondary nameserver set up so my machines
don't have to go off to hell and backto get nameservice.  (This machine
is listed first in the clients' resolv.conf files.)  

I'd like to distribute things like /etc/passwd, /etc/group, and whatnot
through Hesiod.  (It ships with the DECs -- supposedly this makes life
easy.)  However, I have no control over my primary name server.  I *do*
however have maximum control over my secondary which all my clients point
to first.  

With this configuration, is it possible to run my secondary name server
as a primary Hesiod server?  If so, how?  I've never run Hesiod before
and if this is some sort of FAQ or misposted, my apologies to all concerned
in advance.  Thanks!

-Mike
mik!e@maria.wustl.edu
(or something like that)
From: soloway@midniteoil.Eng.Sun.COM (Mark Soloway)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Re: Multicast in SUNOS 4.1.3
Date: 15 Dec 1992 02:07:52 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: soloway@midniteoil.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: midniteoil

In article 8672@uxmail.ust.hk, clfung@uxmail.ust.hk (Fung Chi Leung) writes:
>Our system has upgraded to SUNOS 4.1.3 recently. As I heard from the news, 
>it can support multicasting, right?  Can anyone out there give me any examples
>or guides of how to program the multicasting functions?  

I'm not sure about specific kernel multicast message support, but ToolTalk (a
multicast message service) ships with OpenWindows 3.0 and later.  Your OpenWindows
Document Set should include a "ToolTalk Programmer's Guide".  Also, Answerbook
contains the "ToolTalk Programmer's Guide" in the "System Services" section...

		- Mark
__________________________________________
\_Mark Soloway (mark.soloway@Eng.Sun.COM)_\
/_Distributed Systems Services (ToolTalk)_/
\__SunSoft (A Sun Microsystems Company)___\

Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: wayne@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: PCS WITH DUPLICATE TCP ADDRESSES
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:32:09 GMT

I am using CMU TCP on a VAX running VMS. I am telneting to this vax from 
PC's using Kermit 3.11 ( which has built-in telnet ).

Many times pc users copy the kermit file from their pc around to other 
machines. One of the files they copy is mskermit.ini that has the tcp 
address of the person's pc. When that file is copied, the receiving machine 
also gets the tcp address of the copying machine. And on it goes. Sometimes 
a whole lab of pc's gets the same tcp address. The network dies a slow 
death.

My question is " Is there a way to prevent a pc from accessing the network 
if there is already a pc on the network at that moment with the same tcp 
address as the one attempting access ?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Wayne Hann	CA*Net  wayne@leif.ucs.mun.ca
Cabot Institute
St. John's, NF     
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Xref: sparky comp.protocols.tcp-ip:5622 comp.sys.mips:1126
From: art@acc.com (Art Berggreen)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip,comp.sys.mips
Subject: Re: maximum size of UDP datagrams [ethernet]
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:23:43 GMT
Organization: ACC, Advanced Computer Communications

In article <Bz2tLw.JH5@ecf.toronto.edu> steve@ecf.toronto.edu (Steve Kotsopoulos) writes:
>Broadcast UDP datagram cannot be fragmented, so it must fit into the
>1500 byte data portion of an ethernet frame. After sustracting 20 bytes
>for the IP header, and another 8 bytes for the UDP header, you are left
>with 1472 bytes for user data. [these numbers are based on the diagrams
>on page 208 in "UNIX Network Programming" by W. Richard Stevens]

I believe that not fragmenting broadcasts is a "BSD-ism", and is not explicitly
illegal in the IP spec.  But because of this defacto rule, and that broadcasting
fragments affects every IP station (consuming reassembly resources), it's
probably a a good thing to avoid.

Art
From: kevin@kevins.frontiertech.com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: Price of Apple TCP/IP
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:57:09 GMT
Organization: Frontier Technologies
NNTP-Posting-Host: kevins.frontiertech.com

It's my understanding TCP used to be free from Apple.
Is this still the case, or are they charging for it now.

Any help would be appreciated!

Kevin@Kevins.FrontierTech.Com
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: todd@draco.macsch.com (Todd C. Williams)
Subject: subnets of net A separated by net B?
Organization: MacNeal-Schwendler Corp.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 04:21:30 GMT

Can I have two subnets physically separated by a different net?

Let's say net A is 150.150, with subnets A1=150.150.10 and A2=150.150.20
and net B is 75.  I have a bunch of hosts running RIP, and some CISCOs:

----A1-----(CISCO)..(CISCO)========B==========(CISCO)-------A2------

The reason I'm doing this is that I'm changing the whole network from
the B address to subnets of the A address.  The Ciscos communicate
via IGRP and redistribute RIP.  All hosts run routed in quiet mode.

The Cisco manual talks about using secondary addresses to accomplish
this (I think), but their example is pitiful.

I attempted to give the CISCO interfaces on net B secondary addresses
that conform to the A network.  It didn't work.

The biggest problem, (maybe), is that the routing tables of the hosts
on net B list the A network and NOT the A1 and A2 subnets.  (Currently
all but the A2 subnet is in place).

Any hints would be appreciated.

-- 
Todd Williams    UNIX Systems Coordinator     todd@macsch.com    (213) 259-4973
MacNeal-Schwendler Corp. ("MSC"),  815 Colorado Blvd.,  Los Angeles, CA   90041
>> "Solaris 2.0 --- It's enough to make you leave the company." -Rob Kolstad <<
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: cliff@engin.umich.edu (clifford  kaminsky)
Subject: Internet compatibility with WINQVT
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 18:52:41 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: us
Keywords: QVT PC WIndows

Hi. I'm testing out WINQVT/Net version 2.8.  It works fine telnetting to
the university unix machines and such.  Strangely, whenever I telnet to a
MUD (an internet chat system) such as af.itd.com 9999, mustang.dell.com 6715,
wiley.cs.wmich.edu 2345, or svmud.lysator.liu.se 2043, I cannot enter anything.
I receive text normally, but when a prompt comes up, nothing I type gets
sent to the host.

For those of you considering this software for use, it still has a lot of
bugs.

Can someone offer a solution to my problem?  Thanks.

-Cliff
From: pjinkila@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (Paul Inkila)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
Subject: How to tell MacTCP to use BOOTP or RARP?
Keywords: MacTCP BOOTP RARP
Date: 17 Dec 1992 20:42:07 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University; Thunder Bay, Ont

How does one tell MacTCP to user BOOTP or RARP for address resolution?

I recently added a new IP net to our network, and want to use BOOTP.
(Since it's routable thru our router). PC's using BOOTP on this new segment
work fine. i.e. they are able to access a BOOTP database on the other
side of the router.  But no go for the Mac's.  Any pointers?

Thanx.

Paul Inkila		pjinkila@thunder.lakeheadu.ca
Lakehead U
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: mobrien@telesciences.com (Mark W O'Brien)
Subject: Summary of responses: tcp source location
Organization: TeleSciences CO Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 13:47:13 GMT

>       Are the sample sources available from the Comer or Stevens books on
>       tcp/ip - UNIX Network programming?
>

Thanks to all who responded. I successfully ftp'd the Stevens source
from:

	site:         ftp.uu.net

	directory:    /published/books

	file:         stevens.netprog.tar.Z

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Newsgroups: comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: Steve.Bauer@launchpad.unc.edu (Steve Bauer)
Subject: rarp server deamon
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:43:27 GMT

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From: fdc@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Frank da Cruz)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.kermit
Subject: Last call for C-Kermit 5A(188) testing results
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:45:47 GMT
Via: UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY; Wed, 16 Dec 92  17:15 GMT
To: C-Kermit Developers and Testers <ckermit@watsun.cc.columbia.edu>

Last call for success reports on C-Kermit 5A.  Well, not really the
last, but the last to meet a publication deadline.  The ones I haven't
heard about yet include the following.  Some of them are kind of
obscure, so no big deal, but others might be so common that nobody
bothered to report them?

Please include complete computer manufacturer name, complete computer
model, complete OS name and release, which makefile entry you used,
and the ls -l size (stripped or unstripped).  Here's the list of
unknowns that I know about (feel free to send any other reports too --
we can't have too many):

VAX (or other?) with vanilla 4.1, 4.2, or 4.3 BSD.
PDP-11, Perkin-Elmer, Interdata, etc, with Bell Laboratories UNIX 7th Edition
PDP-11 with 2.4, 2.9, or 2.10 BSD (we have 2.11)
Alliant, any model, with any release of Concentrix
Altos 486, 586, 986 with Xenix 3.0
Atari ST with MINIX ST 1.5.10.3
Charles River Data Systems Universe 680x0 with UNOS
Data General Aviion with DG/UX 4.3x
FPS 500 with FPX 4.1
IBM 370-series mainframes with AIX/370, any release
IBM RT PC with ACIS (= BSD) 4.2 or 4.3
Intel 302 with Bell Tech System V/386 R3.2
NCR System 3000 with AT&T UNIX System V R4 2.0
NCR Tower 32 with OS 1.x and 2.x
NCR Tower 1632 or Minitower with System V R2
OkiStation 7300 Series
PCs with Consensys UNIX SV/386 R4V3
PCs with Mt Xinu Mach386
PCs with SCO Xenix/286 or any other 286 UNIX version
PFU Compact A Series
Ridge 32 with ROS
Samsung MagicStation with System V R4
Sequent Balance with DYNIX 3.0
Silicon Graphics with pre-4.0 releases of IRIX
Solbourne computers with OS/MP 4.0 and 4.1
Suns with SunOS 3.x or earlier
Tektronix XD88 series with UTekV OS
Tri Star Flash Cache with Esix SVR3.2
UNISYS 5000 with UTS V R5.2 or 5.3

Also, what's this Univel I've been reading about (some kind of "cheap"
stripped-down Novell + USL System V R4 UNIX for PCs)?  Has anybody seen
it?  Has anyone tried building C-Kermit for it (perhaps impossible because
there is no development environment)?  Or running some other System V R4
PC-based C-Kermit binary on it?

Thanks!

- Frank

P.S. The list of successful UNIX compilations has about 190 entries already,
including many new ones I had never heard of before.  Will publish the list
shortly.
From: mark@cad.gatech.edu (Mark Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
Subject: UUCP protocol description?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 18:44:05 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cae.cad.gatech.edu
Keywords: where?

Where could I find a description of UUCP suitable for use in writing an
implementation?  

--
Mark J. Reed			College of Computing Technical Support
<mark@cad.gatech.edu>		Georgia Institute of Technology
From: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu (Randy [Java Man] Zagar)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.misc
Subject: Re: SESSION layer (OSI layer 5) protocols, wher
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:34:17 GMT
Reply-To: zagar@chester.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware

The best book I've dealt with recently is "UNIX Network Programming" by
Stevens.  According to him, layers 5 thru 7 are left to the user process.

Also, as I understand it, dial-up sessions (like SLIP) should probably be
classified as a OSI-Layer-3 or Network-layer protocol.

-RZ


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