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From: lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (BRIAN PAUL VAN LIEU)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Anyone using 'vdisk.sys' with 2.1 beta?
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:50:40 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan26.151116.1644@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, jphillips@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
writes:
>>
>> Has anyone used 'vdisk.sys' under OS/2 2.1 beta? It works well with
>> GA+SP, but locks up my machine with 2.1 beta. The system hangs right
>> before the WPS could come up. Maybe this is a new bug?
>


    Yes, I believe it to be a bug. The DELDIR, and THE VDISK were the two
    lines-together, and independant of each other- that crashed my machine
    consistantly.

                                                        cheers,

                                                        bvl
-- 

  Brian P. Van Lieu
  Lehigh University-AXP
  lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu

            OS/2 2.0...anything else is just a DOS.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: trumpet-user@a.site.name (Default Trumpet User)
Subject: Ventura Publisher, Gem version and OS/2
Organization: An Organization Name
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:04:28 GMT

After installing OS/2 on a single HPFS partition I am trying to use Ventura 
Publisher v. 2 with Proffesional extension in a dos session. I have no
success as Ventura can't get control of the mouse, is there any cure for
this. 
 All other Dos programs I used seems to manage this, however Ventura 
(or Gem) seems unusual as it, as far I can remember, could access the
mouse without any mouse driver loaded, indicating that it contains it's own
driver. I suppose that the problem is related to this, as OS/2 
seemingly prohibits Dos programs to take control over the comport with the
mouse on. 

I am thankful for any suggestions;


Nils-Olof Svensson,           Internet; Nils-Olof.Svensson@Geol.lu.se
From: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: My ET4000......(again)....:-(
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:50:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.5.23

In article <1993Jan25.131540.24106@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>Any suggestions? either for fixing my prolbem or as to price.......:-)

Did you boot DOS and try SVGA ON from there? This 'trick' cleared up many of 
the hassles I had configuring my Trident card...

--
Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au         This post made from 100% recycled electrons.
From: hayesb@yvax.byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1b
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:08:53 -0700
Organization: Brigham Young University

In article <1993Jan22.221958.26657@wam.umd.edu>, adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir) writes:
> 
> 
> I have found the 2.1b to be extremely unstable.  <deleted>
> 
> All of the above works perfectly in OS/2 2.0+SP.  I recommend staying as
> far away from 2.1b as possible, unless you have the need for running some
> particular enhanced mode app in Windows (which isn't even guaranteed to 
> work...the only thing I wanted was for my Gravis Ultrasound drivers for
> Windows (they require enhanced mode) to work but they don't).  2.0+SP
> is MUCH more stable. 

C'mon, this is a BETA version.  It isn't necessarily supposed to be rock solid. 
That's why they call it OS/2 2.1 BETA.  And that is why there are people out
there to test it, give their buggy feedback to IBM, so IBM can fix it before
2.1 GA. :-)

Bryan
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mortenk@dhhalden.no (MORTEN KNUDSEN)
Subject: Re: 2.1 bugs, suggestions.  (was Re: 2.1b bug and editorial comment on killing processes)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:04:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.073222.7078@cheshire.oxy.edu> rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Giller) writes:
>Suggestions (These are strong suggestions: I have been using OS/2 for
>3 years now, and these bother me):
>
>- You've got to do something about those godawful scroll bars.  They
>	were just fine in 1.2, just fine in 1.3, but at 2.0 you
>	screwed them up.  They are VERY ugly, and beleive me, that's
>	going to matter to people.  Windows is PRETTY, and if you're
>	going to compete with that, you've got to do something about
>	the appearances.  The 3D of the windows is great: The icons on
>	the scroll buttons suck.  I like the thumb alot, however: the
>	only change I would make is that I'd experiment with putting a
>	small dot or 'scribe line' (like the one in the center of the
>	thumb of the position scroll bar of the Win3.1 media player)
>	in the center of the thumb.

I actually like the scroll bars. It gives you control of how many lines 
you scroll, depending on how far you pull it. In windows, this depends 
entirely on how long your document is. 
>
>- Ditto with the handling on the title bars.  When the window is in
>	the background, it's got a nice 3-d look to the title bar.
>	Bring it to the foreground, and the frame and menu remains
>	3-d, but the title bar goes 2-d.

I agree. 
>
>-Dave
>
Morton.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking
From: assela@marcus.its.rpi.edu (A. Andre Asselin)
Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED:DOS NETWARE FAILING--IBM DUCKING!
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:32:10 GMT

jpa8r@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Joseph P. Allen) writes:
>I do have another ethernet card (3Com's 3c501), which I could try
>if anyone thinks that would help.  Also, our network is expected
>to upgrade to 3.11 soon.  

I'd give it a shot.  It sounds like your problem could be a flaky
device driver.  Perhaps the 3Com would work better.

I know you mentioned that money is a problem for you right now, but
did you know that you can get the base kit to IBM's TCP/IP for under
$150 with the educational discount?

     - Andre Asselin (assela@rpi.edu)
From: ucgadkw@ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: keyboard lockup??
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:30:12 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman) writes:

>In article <1993Jan20.092025.19992@news.acns.nwu.edu> brokow@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Brokowski) writes:
>>Recently I recently installed OS/2 on a new hard drive (GA + CSD)
>>and I have been hit by a bug.  At seemingly random times the keyboard
>>will stop working.  The mouse works, I can launch stuff from WPS,
>>close windows and all, but zip from the keyboard.  

Me too, with the 2.1 beta.  It never happened with GA+SP, though.

It seems exclusively to be when I run nupop, a DOS comms program.

Dominik
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Need IBM phone number to order os2 2.1b
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:46:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.125513.660@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu> mnjafar@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>Hi, can any one give me the IBM phone number and price of the
>os2 2.1beta cd.

In the U.S. call 800-3-IBM-OS2.  Cost is $15, including shipping via
Airborne Express.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0i, available from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:23:58 -0500 
From: Ke-Wei Ma <km4c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: TIGA???

    Does TI plan to write any TIGA drivers, for the wealth of 24-bit
cards out there?  Will IBM, or will IBM stick to promoting XGA-2?
    Will OS/2 ever run with 24-bit color?

Ke-Wei
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Subject: PAS and OS2 was e: PAS16 on ftp-os2
Reply-To: mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green)
Organization: Columbia University, New York
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:11:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.235536.25178@rose.com> victor.ng@rose.com (victor ng) writes:
>Date Entered: 01-23-93 18:51
>R > From: rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Giller)
>
>R > This is a start, but there are lots of bugs.
>
>Are any problems before the new drivers for MMPM/2 for DOS compatibility
>solved after the MMPM/2 drivers?

What problems?
I was able to run all SB reg software which doesn't check for the PAS
(anti-trust law alert!) and crash on purpose (ie most software) except
for PAS native PCM software, which requires a fix to OS/2 (not available
yet) to allow auto-DMA (in the DOS box?).

However, I can't get the beta working...would someone please post their
MMPM2.INI file from a working PAS and PAS16 installation!

Thanks.
Meir

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones)
Subject: Re: Inexpensive OS/2 CD-ROM Revealed
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:47:05 GMT

>>Tim, Can I use the NEC CDR-25 without the Trantor interface? I am
>>currently running OS/2 2 with a Future Domain 1680 card and two SCSI
>>harddrives - a 90MB internal and a 210 MB external.
>>Also, let me thank you for all of the questions you have answered and
>>all of the research done for others here on the net. I have taken
>>advantage of your responses.
>
>No problem -- it's SCSI.  You can simply not use the supplied Trantor
>adapter.
>
>That said, someone's going to have to confirm that the CDR-25 works.
>I believe it does, but it does need to be confirmed.
While the Trantor drive does not work with the instant install disks, 
there are Trantor drivers and the person at the computer shop here 
a U of T simply modified the two install disks with the Trantor driver
and did the install of the Beta from the CD using the Trantor and
the CDR25 drive. Apparently the 25 is compatible with the 36 but slower.
He hadn't finished the install when I left... but it was working.

tj
From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Selectively setting default font sizes
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:01:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62711.student.cwru.edu

In article <MATT.93Jan24141833@physics2.berkeley.edu> matt@physics2.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern) writes:
>As far as I can tell, there's no way to do that: when I select "Save"
>in the "Font Size" menu, it affects every window that I subsequently
>open.  Am I missing something really obvious, or is there really no
>way to do this?  

I believe that there is no way to do this.
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.misc:43572 comp.os.os2.programmer:7889
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: AutoCAD and OS/2
Date: 22 Jan 1993 15:46:45 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <81320@hydra.gatech.EDU>, by gb8@prism.gatech.EDU (BEEBE,GARY E):
> I gotta guy pinging me for info on the effective usibility of AutoCAD (ver
> 10 or higher) on OS/2 2.0. If anyone can tell me anything about the       
> compatibility and usibility issues involved I would greatly appreciate it.

There is an OS/2 version of AutoCAD at the release 10 level (the charge
is nominal to 'upgrade' from the DOS version to the OS/2 version).
As far I know, Release 11 will not run under OS/2 2.0, however, a
patch released by AutoCAD for Release 12 will allow you to run it
under OS/2 2.0 just fine.
From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: more OS/2 2.1 beta experiences
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:26:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62711.student.cwru.edu
Keywords: bug OS/2 2.1 beta

In article <1993Jan25.130852.19279@ucl.ac.uk> ucgadkw@ucl.ac.uk (Dominik Wujastyk) writes:
>I sometimes have trouble switching from a winos2 2.1b enhanced session
>back to the WPS:  the screen blanks out.  Sometimes the whole machine
>hangs, and needs a cold boot.  Same (sometimes) when quitting from
>winso2 2.1b enhanced.

It's been discussed and dismissed as an official bug.  Happens here too.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: keiths@cae.wisc.edu (Keith Scidmore)
Subject: Re: Some 2.1b Problems
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:04:41 CST

In article <1993Jan26.170423.25713@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.061624.5448@mksol.dseg.ti.com> rloper@mksol.dseg.ti.com (robert l loper) writes:
>>I recently installed the 2.1 beta, and have had some unusual problems lately
>>(like tonight).
>>Anyway...
>>I tried to install some Windows 3.1 games seamlessly, and couldn't get 
>>OS/2 to recognize them as Windows programs (I never could check WIN-OS/2
...
>
>Timothy F. Sipples      | READ the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0i, available from
>A lot of these problems sound similar to those experienced by people
>who did not reformat prior to installing the 2.1 beta.  It is HIGHLY
>recommended you do so.

I suggest reformatting the ENTIRE DISK, not just the install partition.  This
solved my install problem.  Several others have commented about this.  This
should be a 2.1b FAQ.

Keith R. Scidmore
From: ez003045@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (James E. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OUCH!
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:19:06 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I finally got around to trying the beta.  I have a Western Digital
Caviar 2120 with the GA+SP installed and running fine for ages.  
Tonight, I popped in an older WD drive, and started installing the
beta on it.  

Everyting went fine until the point where it reboots after disk #5.
It rebooted into the beta to select the type of installation, (pre-
selected, all features, custom installation, learn to use a mouse) 
and when I clicked on "select features and install" (or equiv.),
and cliked ok, it spun my HD for about a minute and a half, and then
started making a GRODY clicking noise louder than anything I have ever
heard from a component that isn't supposed to make noise.

I turned off my system, tried again, same thing.  I re-fdisked the hd,
(it's 40mb BTW) formatted it to FAT (had been HPFS), and ran ndd (6.0)
on it.  Everything looked fine, so I tried the beta once again, with
the same results.  

Perhaps a hard disk problem?  Well, just for kicks, I started installing
the GA, and had ZERO problems!  I don't understand what could have made
my hd make that noise--it was HIDEOUS!

Any ideas?

jel

---------
     


ez003045@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
jelee@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu
From: xabaea@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: CD-ROMS.....HELP!!!!
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:20:03 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia


we are trying to install a CD-ROM in our pc running OS/2... @ e

the CD-ROM works fine under DOS and Windows but when running OS/2, it  k s   e
doesn't know a thing about it...

we have tried using various OS/2 drivers that are supposedly compatible v t u p p a r e s
with our CD-ROM (we got them from some other bulletin board) but they don't a e n
seem to work... .

We have an NEC CDR-84 CD-ROM
and Trantor T128 SCSI adaptor card... a


If anyone has any suggestions on how to install this stuff correctly or { { T t h
any other drivers needed then please   h e s   t h e n
let me know!!!


our mail server is stuffed at the moment so you'll just have to reply post h e   n   s e r
any help...

thanks in advance... a v n
Andrew Kulikovsky  c/- BAeA .
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dneufeld@student.business.uwo.ca (Derrick J. Neufeld)
Subject: Re: win-os2 (2.1 beta) printing problems ...
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:15:03 GMT

dneufeld@student.business.uwo.ca (Derrick J. Neufeld) writes:

> grrrrr!!  After installing 2.1b, I can't get win-os/2 programs (such as word)
> to print -- tells me to re-install printer driver (which I did to no avail) -
> also, all of my word fonts disappeared -- even the system fonts.  DOS and OS/
> apps print fine -- just windows apps can't print.  Any help out there?
> 

I'll follow my own post here (I've noticed other similar posts) --- I 
installed the MS-Win 3.1 drivers, and it *seems* to be printing like a charm 
in my windows apps.  Specifically, copy the following MS-Win 3.1 files to 
\os2\mdos\winos2\system:

   FINSTALL.DLL / FINSTALL.HLP / HPPCL5A.DRV / HPPCL5A.HLP / HPPCL5OP.HLP

(to be honest, I'm not certain which of these files are needed, but I copied 
all 5, and it seems ok) -- you will have to "expand" the HPPCL5A.DRV and 
HPPCL5A.HLP files (expand.exe is on the MS-Win install disk).   

 
  Derrick J. Neufeld, Ph.D. Candidate-MIS, University of Western Ontario  
  Internet: DNeufeld@Business.UWO.CA  Phone: (519) 679-2111 (ext. 5174)
From: browland@vax1.umkc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: open comp.os.os2.apps
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:36:39 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

What are Bookmaster files (they end in .inf ? ) right?
how do i read them?
-robert
browland@vax1.umkc.edu
thanks
From: etl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ERIC TODD LANDRIEU)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: MSC/C++ 7.0 under OS/2 2.1 Beta problems! Help!
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:38:35 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan20.141304.20841@news.clarkson.edu>, gulla@sun.soe.clarkson.ed
u (Jerry Gulla) writes:
>
>Ok.  I've installed the OS/2 2.1 Beta (went fine) and now I'm trying to
>use Microsoft C/C++.  I open up an emulated DOS dession with
>DOS_DPMI_API set to ENABLED.  My files get compiled OK, but when the
>link stage come about I get:
>
>c:\c700\lib\SLIBCE.LIB(malloc.asm) : fatal error L1101: invalid object module
> pos: 674A Record type: C6
>NMAKE : fatal error U1077: 'LINK' : return code '2'
>Stop.
>
>This is compiling a simple "hello, world" program - nothing fancy.
>Anyone have any ideas?  I've tried running it under a DOS 5 image off my
>C partition.  I can link (once), but no compile!
>
Check to make sure that your program is using the linker that came with MCS,
not the one with OS2.  Since the NMAKE will use your path, it will try to use
the wrong linker if the OS2 directory structure precedes that of MSC in your
autoexec.
A simple way to tell is to check the version number brought up when the linker
executes.  If my mind serves me correct(I can't check right now... My
computer's power supply went out and I'm waiting for its replacement to
arrive), the MSC linker is version 5.30, while the OS2 version is 5.10 or some
derivative of that.  It is not made to handle what the 5.30 does(I got a
similar error until I realized what I'm telling you with LLIBCEW.LIB).
To correct this, either rename one of the linkers or have the C700\BIN
directory first in your AUTOEXEC's PATH.
                                   Eric Landrieu

                                   
-- 

               ===============================================
               =   Eric Landrieu  =  ETL0@ns1.CC.lehigh.EDU  =
               ===============================================
"I'd be apathetic, but I don't really care about it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jst50986@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jack S. Tan)
Subject: Re: Why am I getting a startup.cmd window?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:53:35 GMT

enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach) writes:

>In article <93021.122713DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> <DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>>When I enter OS/2 upon starting the computer the first thing that pops up
>>is a window titled startup.cmd. OS/2 is obviously running startup.cmd and
>>opening a window for it, and I have no idea why. I have the clock in the
>>startup.cmd folder so that the clock comes up all the time, but when I close
>>this new window the clock doesn't show up. Any way to get OS/2 to just run
>>the applications that are in the startup.cmd folder like it use to for me
>>instaed of having this window open? I am not sure what I did to change it to
>>make this happen, but something did.

>I think that you are confusing the Startup folder with the STARTUP.CMD 
>file.  The Startup folder contains OBJECTS to be started up at startup 
>time.  The STARTUP.CMD file is like an AUTOEXEC.BAT file for OS/2, and it 
>loads programs, runs programs, and starts sessions.  The file is located on 
>the main directory of your OS/2 drive, and is usually created by installing 
>OS/2 software that needs to spawn a process at the beginning of booting
>OS/2 (like the TCP/IP software).

>Basiclly, to trash the startup.cmd window, trash the STARTUP.CMD file, or, 
>if the information in the STARTUP.CMD file is necessary and you just want 
>the annoying STARTUP.CMD window to go away, add the word 'exit' to the last 
>line of the file with a text editor.

To have STARTUP.CMD not display at all, this is what I did:  I placed
STARTUP.CMD in my \REXX directory (rather than the root), then shadowed it
to the Startup folder.  The 'Start Minimized' and 'Close Window on Exit'
options are checked.  As noted above, the last line in the bactch file is
'exit.'

-- 

Jack Tan                             If your parents didn't have kids,
jahk@uiuc.edu                          chances are you won't either.
From: daoffer@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Debora Offer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs OS/2: Does NT worth the wait?
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:06:06
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: dewey.cc.utexas.edu
In-reply-to: SDENARO@vm.poly.edu's message of Fri, 15 Jan 93 10:15:58 EST

In article <16B579061.SDENARO@vm.poly.edu> SDENARO@vm.poly.edu writes:
[...]
	OS/2 is stable, but not 10% of SunOS or any major UNIX. I know of
	suns that go six or eight months at a time without a crash. Granted,
	OS/2 goes down once or twice a week, but that is still to often.

	--
	SAL DENARO      "Live Fast, Die Young, Hack 'C'"
	sdenaro@polyvm.poly.edu    sdenaro@polyvm.bitnet

I wish whoever maintained your Suns would talk to our administrators.
The Suns I use to read news and get mail are unavailable at least
2 or 3 times a week.  Just last week they went down for 2 days
while they were installing SunOs 4.1.2 (or was it 4.1.3?)  The
server I use at work gets rebooted at least once a week (usually
while I'm at lunch and can't respond to the "System going
down" messages!)  OS/2 on the other hand, stays up for weeks 
without any problems.  
--

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