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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: PJ Harvey Live
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:28:08 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

perring@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu wrote:
> Polly smiled knowingly between songs.  She looked everyone in the eye. 
>  Polly is the queen of rock. 

Looks like experience is doing good things for her.

> And it sounds like she has been taking 
> some singing hints from Hole/Babes in Toyland.  

Hmmm. Not sure I like the comparison. I also don't feel it's valid to
compare Hole and BIT. Initially they sound similar, but when I listen to
Hole's ``Pretty On The Inside'' it strikes me as a shallow, empty album --
all the emotion seems faked and the musicianship is at best indifferent.
There's no hidden depth to Hole's music -- the band is purely and simply a
vehicle for Courtney Love as a sleazy grunge Madonna... or at least that's 
how I see it

BIT on the other hand are a serious rock band -- their songs are dark,
multi-layered and very complex. Whereas you get all you're ever going to get
out of a Hole song after one play, BIT stuff takes time to get to know...


> PJHarvey rules the universe.  They're playing in NY or NJ tonight.  
> Go and see them.
Unfortunately i'm stuck in the original York :-)

--
*Peter Fenelon -- Research Associate -- Software Safety Assessment Procedures*
Dept. of Computer Science, University of York, York, Y01 5DD (+44/0)904 433388
EMAIL: pete@minster.york.ac.uk `There's no room for enigmas in built up areas'
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: strange band names pl
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:57:05 GMT


Sterk Naken Og Biltyvene (norwegian meaning Strong Naked And The Car Thieves)
Postman Pat And The Pitbull Punks
Looks Nice In Orange And Apples


          /\           | I didn't say this.      | "When there's no 
        /    \         | My supervisor would     |  more room in hell,
      /        \       | kill me if i did.       |  the dead will     
    /    (<>)    \     |_________________________|  walk the earth."
  /                \   |Gunnar Horrigmo          |
/____________________\ |gunnarh@sofus.dhhalden.no|
From: nonhoff@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Bjoern Nonhoff)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: kinderueberraschung
Date: 20 Dec 92 03:52:41 GMT
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany

Heeloo
nice Xmas to you
hope you recieve my massages
Bjopern

no my name is
bjoern
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: bpw@andy.bgsu.edu (Mr. Grunge)
Subject: Flannel is Life!
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: BGSU
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:10:54 GMT

Okay, here is the some cool dirt on flannel. If you don't like it, then
don't read.

   Flannel has almost all of a sudden made a comeback. I have always loved
flannel. It's popularity today has only made finding places that sell it
more numerous. Flannel shirts are the softest and the most comfterable
shirts around. The longer they go unwashed the more soft and comfy they
get. Don't get me wrong, you need to wash them once in a while, although
don't iron them, it's too preppy. The only negative side of the flannel
craze is the fact that manufactures and stores see the demand and price
gouge flannel accesories to death. There are a few good places to get
flannel shirts for only a few bucks.
The best place is a Salvation Army Thrift Store.  They have the coolest
stuff.
The best thing is is that it is already worn in and faded. The old styles
of the 70's and 80's are there. Some of the best plaids around are in the
Salvation Army Thrift Store. I suggest you all go out to the local SATS and
buy some cool flannels.


																															Mr. Grunge
From: b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Music
Date: 12 Dec 92 12:31:47 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

As said earlier in these answers, cEVIN kEY is a musical genious...

He's at his very best when playing with the best, sKINNY pUPPY!

Just my opinion...

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       \   /     oOo = Svedbov. 22      =
       *! !*   oO    = S-740 20 BRUNNA  =
        O O          = SWEDEN           =
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        ***

"It is my opinion, that the man on the shroud is Jesus Christ"
From: flamengo@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lourenco William Dantas)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: MiniDisc is here!
Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:22:50 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <ibhan.724366214@husc10> ibhan@husc10.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) writes:
>Hey, did anyone notice that MiniDisc, Sony's new optical CD-like recording
>format is here?  The discs are encased in plastic, and are really small
>(2.5"?).  The only problem is that support isn't great yet, and we'll
>probably see mostly top 40 stuff before it becomes (hopefully) big.  I did
>see REM's AFTP on MiniDisc, though.  The whole idea strikes me as far
>better than DCC.
>               -  Ishir Bhan -  ibhan@husc.harvard.edu  - 

	Why do you want the MDs to catch on? I am hoping that the DCCs
	are the format that captures consumers. This way I can continue
	listening to my tapes. And I'm pretty sure that many people still
	have tapes that they would like to listen to. With the DCCs, a 
	system will just have to include the receiver, CD player, and a
	DCC player, unlike a setup with a MD, which in addition to a
	tape deck (substituting the DCC player) will have to include
	the MD player. Plus, pre-recorded artists are also featured on
	DCCs.

	My $0.02.

	LOU.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: moleface@next01cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins)
Subject: Re: e: Grunge
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:41:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.174326.2705@rose.com> greg.ipp@rose.com (greg ipp)  
writes:
> 
> Date Entered: 12-13-92 12:35
> > From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
> > Subject: Re: Grunge
> > Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:07:09 GMT
> > 
> > I've never used the term "grunge".
> > In fact, I didn't hear of it until about a year ago. (Dont flame as I  
have 
> > been nuying SubPop stuff since -86. (or was it -87? Can't remember)).
> > I have allways used the term "Noise-Metal" for it, and I still think  
that 
> > sounds way cooler than "grunge".
> > 
> > <increadibly long signature deleted>
> 
>   Using the term "noise-metal" equates the music with Metallica, or 
> Megedeth, or maybe even GnR.  Do we _really_ want that?  The music 
> deserves it's own 'label' -- it shouldn't just be a spin-off from 
> some other musical genre.  Grunge has its own distinct personality, 
> and from the look of it, the whole thing is quickly becoming some sort 
> of a subculture.
> 
> ---------------------------
I've never heard any of those groups pegged as "noise-metal."  Metallica  
and Megadeth (until recently) have always been considered, at least to  
people I know, as thrash or speed metal.  And Gnr are too mainstream to be  
considered "noise;" I've always considered them to be just a rock-n-roll  
band with a bit more of an attitude than most of the other cheez metal  
bands that are coming out these days.

My three cents,
Moleface
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dsargean@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Kettle)
Subject: Re: Grunge
Organization: CPSFS
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:00:29 GMT

In article <gunnarh.275.724244829@dhhalden.no> gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:
>I've never used the term "grunge".
>In fact, I didn't hear of it until about a year ago. (Dont flame as I have 
>been nuying SubPop stuff since -86. (or was it -87? Can't remember)).
>I have allways used the term "Noise-Metal" for it, and I still think that 
>sounds way cooler than "grunge".
>
>
>          /\           | I didn't say this.      | "When there's no 
>        /    \         | My supervisor would     |  more room in hell,
>      /        \       | kill me if i did.       |  the dead will     
>    /    (<>)    \     |_________________________|  walk the earth."
>  /                \   |Gunnar Horrigmo          |
>/____________________\ |gunnarh@sofus.dhhalden.no| 
>
I reckon grunge started with the Kinks-"You Really Got Me." (1964), or
(this may be stretching it) the Kingsmen' version of "Louie Louie" ('63?)

 Daiman (Cov Uni)

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: Eddie Vedder Dead?
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:03:05 GMT

From article <1992Dec14.170106.2893@gacvx2.gac.edu>, by (becky):
> In article <1992Dec13.000339.11207@nmt.edu>, mystical@nmt.edu (Gurupartap
> Davis) wrote:
>> 
>> I recently heard from a friend that Eddide Vedder (the singer for Pearl Jam)
>> was dead.  Apparently he died on Dec. 4th from a Crystal meth. overdose.
>> However, I have not heard this anywhere else.  It seems odd to me, because
>> it seems like more people would care about it enough to confirm this or not.
>> I have not even heard it on MTV, which is where I would think I would have 
>> heard about it first.
>> 
>> So the question is: Is Eddie Vedder dead?  I really hope not.
>> 
> fuck that shit, they just played the unplugged they did for mtv on fri. and
> they sure as hell would have said something about it if the man had chucked
> off.
> 

	No, no...didn't you hear them say something along the lines
of "And in tribute to the death of Eddie Veddar..." before the show?

 He's dead...at least he oughtta be...

 TTYL
 Chris

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: dbl50872@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Brian Lake)
Subject: Best of 92
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:02:13 GMT

 Best of '92

 Albums
 Peter Gabriel  US
 Material Issue  Destination Universe
 Ministry       Psalm 69
 L7            Bricks are Heavy
 Sister Machine Gun    Sins of the Flesh
 White Zombie   La Sexorcisto
 The Prodigy    Experience
 The Cure       Wish
 Ramones        Mondo Bizzaro
 Matthew Sweet  Girlfriend (i think is 92)

 EP / Single
 NIN   Fixed
 NIN   Broken
 Utah Saints   Something Good
 Altern8    Evapor8  
 Meat Beat Manifesto   Edge of No Control
 The Prodigy   Charly / Everybody...
 White Zombie  NightCrawlers: The KMFDM Remixes
 Ministry      NWO   
 L7      Everglade
 Sisters of Mercy  Temple of Love (1992)  import


 Best Song:  Friday I'm in Love, The Cure

 Most progressive group: Ministry
    Honorable Mentions:White Zombie, The Prodigy, NIN  

 Best Soundtrack: Music from the Cool World & Singles soundtrack

 Best compolation: Techno Trax Vol 1-5

 Best remix of song: NIN, Wish remix on Fixed & White Zombie, Black Sunshine 
		     remix on NightCrawlers


 The albums and EPs are in no particular order except the album of the year is 
 a tie between Psalm 69 and Bricks are Heavy.

 I'm out of here...
 -Danl

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Re: Replacements
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 15:26:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.115526.1@acad.drake.edu> js3471r@acad.drake.edu writes:
>My recommendation would be their "Hootenanny:"  loose, raw, varied, wrenching,
>etc.  Back when the Replacements were God.
>
And stark raving drunk most of the time. :-)

Alan
From: rev@cibbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Eddie Vedder dead?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 20:59:54 EST
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)

  Well... MuchMusic reported today, that the rumors going around about Eddie
Vedder's death, "originated on the Prodigy computer network".  Interesting.

rev.

(note: "rumor" means that HE IS NOT DEAD.  His publicist must being going
insane about now.)

---____  ____
  //     //   DataSoft Consulting   rev@cibbs.UUCP
 //     //   Club InSaNiTy BBS     uunorth!cibbs!rev
 ==== ====  Toronto, Ont., Canada
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: wlamonac@maddog.helios.nd.edu (William LaMonaca)
Subject: Re: Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:42:27 GMT

There are several on the new Alice Donut album:

The Untidy Suicide of your Degenerate Children (also the name of the album)
She Loves You, She Wants You (It's Amazing How Much Headwounds Bleed)
The Son of a Disgruntled Postal Worker Contemplates his Life While Sitting in
    The Parking Lot of A Winn-Dixie and Listening to Metallica.

    These Should do it.
    Bill

Organization: Doctoral student, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 10:09:47 -0500 
From: Pierre Delaly <pd1o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Why is women's music crap.
	<1992Dec10.150952.18361@husc3.harvard.edu>

Hey there , anybody has some sense of HUMOUR  ????

Pierre
From: faps2901@blurt.oswego.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: jane's bootlegs wanted
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:11:24 GMT
Organization: SUNY College at Oswego, Oswego, NY


 I'm a huge Jane's Addiction fan and want to get a line on where to get quality
bootlegs of this now defunct band quite possibly the best band to come out
during my life time.  I have two already one from italy  ,low quality, and
another from the rochester N.Y. show 5/4/91 which I was at a great show but
not a great tape. I would also be interested in hearing about any red hot
chili's bootlegs prior to the loss of john F.(no lollapalooza tapes)

                thanks a million in advance,
                        
                             chris hallen

p.s. i am willing to pay for tapes and any shipping cost and would send copies
of my tapes,though low quality, if any one was interested email me

                           

                "thank you boys" 
                        perry Ferrel
From: msecker@cowan.edu.au (M.SECKER)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: What is flannel?
Date: 18 Dec 92 04:14:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: scorpion.ac.cowan.edu.au

	As a son of one of the few  remaining Flannel sheep farmers I would 
like to set strait the  origins  of this fabric. 
	Firstly the original and true  Flannel  is an animal product!  The word 
originates from the Welsh word for wool -  gwlanen (flanen) The wool comes 
from a sheep not unlike the Scottish Mountain or Highland sheep. Modern wool 
classers  often refer to  Flannel as the Lowland or the Taffy  sheep.  
	The natural colour variation, anything from  off white to  very dark 
brown, is the origin  of of the check pattern which with, the arrival of the romans 
and their dyes, evolved in to the plaids and tartans of  medieval Scotland.  
	Flannel sheep are  unlike most other sheep in that they are quite 
aggressive, extremely stupid and very stubborn, this  makes rearing and  shearing 
them a dangerous occupation.
	For some years we have been using  New Zealand shearers  exclusively  
as their  soft  accent soothes the sheep.

Note: for the sake of maintaining a little mystery in the world 50% of this article 
is UTTER CRAP. I won't tell  you what parts as that would be telling!!!!


Mark, Lucky Boy, Secker
E-mail to msecker@cowan.edu.au


				  Reality	
			            /\ 
		         mind.      |	  is a
		        of   <------+------> matter
		         clarity    |     of
			            \/
				    the                                

Neither Edith Cowan University nor my psychiatrist   accept any  responsibility 
in any way what so ever for the the opinions voiced here (or any were else for 
that matter) by my self and vice versa  



Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: arebold@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: ???????????? NAME THIS BAND ????????????
Organization: Clark University
Date: 17 DEC 92 00:52:52 GMT

I think the song "Roadkill" is by the Pajama Slave Dancers or The Vandals.
But I'm not quite sure.

andy
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rons@quads.uchicago.edu (Josh Ronsen)
Subject: Re: Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles
Reply-To: rons@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:51:05 GMT


	Thanks everybody for contributing to my list of obnoxiously
long song titles. Keep them coming. I will post all that I have
collected next week and we will see who the winner is!

	-Josh Ronsen
	rons@miwday.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Is New Order still around?
From: misb3crs@dct.ac.uk
Date: 11 Dec 92 13:26:19 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <Bz19KL.51n@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius) writes:> 

 
> Movement was New Order's first album release.  This was released after Ian
> Curtis managed to hang himself (the band has signed some obscure pact saying 
> that whenever they make a change of musicians, they will change their name...
> This is what happened from Warsaw to Joy Division to New Order to Revenge.
> This promise appears to be falling through now, however, and we'll have to
> see what happens).

 
> Peter Hook appears to have shouldered lead vocals (as of Technique) although
> I could be wrong pending Sumner's return...
 
 ha ha ha, should i laugh or cry ?
> 
> Marius
> ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
> 


  are you yanks as stupid as it appears ?

  peter hook hasnt done any vocals for new order since 1981's "movement" lp

  and 'revenge' isn't the next incarnation of new order, but is merely
  a side project, as is 'electronic' and 'the other two'

  
 Colin Simpson 

  misb3crs@uk.ac.dct
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hk@caesar.rice.edu (Hyonchol Kahng)
Subject: Re: Squirrelbait & Dustdevils
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:40:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.164338.3833@wam.umd.edu> mag@wam.umd.edu (Michael) writes:
>     Can anyone make any recommendations of which Squirrelbait and/or
>Dustdevils albums to pick up, and what do they sound like??


The only Dustdevils album I've managed to pick up so far is _Struggling
Electric Chemical_ on TeenBeat/Matador, released a couple of years ago.
About the only comparison I can draw, soundwise, is a rather lame one in the
general direction of Sonic Youth, although the Dustdevils tend to emphasize
dynamics more, sounding something vaguely like Slint, weirdness-wise, with
the Sonic Youth-ish guitar mangling.  The whole album is pretty psychotic,
starting with some horribly penscribbled cover art (with a really dumb sloth
joke on the back) and ending on a song called "They Don't Sleep Eight Hours
a Day," which I'm to believe is a speedball/LSD-fuelled rant.  Also on this
album is an absolutely _stunning_ cover of the Fall's "Hip Priest," which,
in my opinion, would have been more appropriate than the original in that
Jonathan Demme film, _Silence of the Lambs_.

Actually, I lied.  I found an older Dustdevils album on vinyl the other day,
but I have yet to listen to it.  Ditto w/ Squirrelbait's _Skag Heaven_ lp.
Not enough time nowadays.  Sigh.



hk

On a totally unrelated note, any opinions on the new Failure album?  Just
found a copy this weekend for $6, and I tend to think it's one of the best
discs of the year.  Just my two bits, y'dig.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: revitte@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (REVITTE DANIEL MURPHY)
Subject: SAN FRANCISCO/bay area
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:38:02 GMT

s Hey there-
I am going to the San Fran area from Jan.1 to Jan 4 of 1993. I was wondering
if I could get some suggestions of any cool places or shows that are going
on then. I'd aprreciate it very much for anything.

Also, if anyone knows who is playing at a place called 914 Gilman St at this
time I would appreciate that info too.

Thanks,
dan

revitte@ucsu.colorado.edu
From: kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu ( Slacker Goddess)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:12:46 GMT
Organization: Seattle University

In article <1992Dec11.044007.13435@wam.umd.edu> pecot@wam.umd.edu (Jonathan Michael Pecot) writes:
>>rons@quads.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>	On my next radio show I am going to do a special Theme Show on
>>>Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles. Any help is appreciated.
>>
> Alice Donut has a song on their new album called "The Son of a Disgruntled
> X-Postal Worker Reflects on his Life While getting Stoned in the Parking
> Lot of a Winn Dixie Listening to Metallica"  Hopefully, that should be
> long enough  :-)

I know this is old stuff, not alternative, but there's that Pink Floyd
song something about small furry animals gathered together in a cave and
grooving with a Pict.  You might also want to check some early Camper Van
Beethoven albums, although they may have nothing with a title longer than
"Mao Reminisces About His Days in Southern China," but I have a hunch you
might find something else....  Good luck.  Are you going to post the final
list?

Lena
      kbennett@sumax.seattleu.edu

      "Here comes the song, I love it so much
      Makes me wanna go and fuck shit up
      Now I've got nirvana in my head
      I'm so glad I'm not dead."
                                -- Juliana Hatfield
From: dbyrne@unix1.tcd.ie (I'm the Hip-Priest)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:07:52 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin


>In article <1992Dec10.183419.18866@midway.uchicago.edu>, rons@quads.uchicago.edu (Josh Ronsen) writes:
>|> 	On my next radio show I am going to do a special Theme Show on
>|> Songs With Obnoxiously Long Titles. Any help is appreciated. The
>|> titles should be vaugely alternative or obscure rock, no jazz or
>|> classical, although Henry Partch and Charile Mingus have some great
>|> ones, and I have heard some really long contry song titles ("walk out
>|> the door backwards so that i will think that you're walking in"?)

ALICE DONUT have an album called "The untidy suicides of your degenerate
children" and on it there's a song with a title that's about 3 times as
long as the album title (can't remember it though). I'll try to get it
some time next week. (The song is supposed to be brilliant too!).

MERCURY REV are fairly good at the long titles too.

dan
From: murtaugh@math.orst.edu (Paul Murtaugh)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Replacements
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:54:44 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University
Reply-To: murtaugh@stat.orst.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: feelgood.stat.orst.edu

>My favorite is Don't Tell a Soul. There's not a weak song on it.

I agree with this.  I was bummed to hear Chris Mars say it was their 
weakest album ("That wasn't the Replacements making that record...").  
Even some of my favorite artists have shitty taste!

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mhaitkin@scott.skidmore.edu (meredith haitkin)
Subject: here's my idea...
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:17:46 GMT


Does anyone else think that it's a good idea to start a new news group
for the sole purpose of giving and getting concert information..
dates, groups, etc...? Just Wondering...
			Love, meri