HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tmacaula@ccs.carleton.ca (Tyson MacAulay)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Question About Teleports
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:50:22 GMT
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 42, Message 7 of 14


          In v13, #32 of TELECOM Digest there were a few entries about
the growth and availablity of Teleports in the US.

          I would be interested to know if anyone has knowledge of any
existing or proposed Teleports in Canada, and who might be building or
organizing them.  Alternately, I would be interested in hearing from
anyone who might be studying the industrial applications of Teleports.


Tyson Macaulay    tmacaula@ccs.carleton.ca
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:05:37 GMT
From: ronal@telebit.com (Ronal Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: "Secret" Phone Codes
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
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tompkins@tti.com (Tompkins) writes:

> In one of those discussions, about a year ago, a number was posted
> that purported to work nationally: 10732-1-404-988-9664.  10732 is a
> private ATT network.  I know that this number does return your area
> code and number verbally from 213, 310 and 818 area codes, and I have
> read reports from others that it works elsewhere.  It does add an
> "eight" to the end of any number I've ever called it from.

Works from 408, but I dialed from my DID number, and got the right
area code and prefix, but some strange suffix. Maybe our trunk?  


Ron

ronal@telebit.com                These ain't no opinions but my own!
R.THOMPSON65  GEnie                                     
MJWG99A  Prodigy    and remember,  what you think of me is none of my business
From: cloos@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (James H. Cloos Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: "Secret" Phone Codes
Date: 26 Jan 93 07:34:42 GMT
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies, Ithaca, NY 14853
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 45, Message 3 of 7

Tompkins <tompkins@tti.com> writes:

> In one of those discussions, about a year ago, a number was
> posted that purported to work nationally:
> 10732-1-404-988-9664.

I tried it from a couple of phones in the 716 area code.

My home is serviced by an independent co that doesn't, I found out,
support 10xxx service.  I got a "can't complete the call, try again",
type message.

I then tried it from a NYTel pay phone in Buffalo.  It returned my
quarter then asked for $2.60 USD.  My curiosity piqued -- a not
alltogether uncommon situation -- I plopped in the change and ... it
works.


James H. Cloos, Jr.	include <std/qotd>
Cloos@TC.Cornell.EDU	include <std/disclaimers.h>
Cloos@Batcomputer.UUCP 	Snail:  POBox 1111, Amherst, NY 14226-1111
Cloos@CrnlThry.BITNET 	Phone:  +1 716 673-1250 (voice only, for now)
From: deej@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (david.g.lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Top Ten Traumas?
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:17:59 GMT
Organization: AT&T
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 42, Message 4 of 14

In article <telecom13.33.6@eecs.nwu.edu> stapleton@bpavms.bpa.
arizona.edu (Dr. Ross Alan Stapleton) writes:

> Is there a good way to assess net losses [of telecom failures],
> so as to ever produced a ranked list?

The best metric I've seen is User Lost Erlangs, which is the total
traffic interrupted, measured in Erlangs.  So if a switch which
normally processes 1000 successful call attempts per minute, with each
call lasting on average 3 minutes, is out of service for one hour,
this represents 3,000 User Lost Erlangs (ULE).  (1000 calls/minute *
60 minutes * 180 seconds/call / 3600 CCS/Erlang = 3000 Erlangs) If a
DS1 facility with 24 trunks at 80% average occupancy is out for an
hour, this represents 19.2 ULE.  And so on.

The advantages to this are it gives a way to quantitatively measure
different types of failures, it incorporates both the number of
affected users and the time they are affected, and it incorporates
time-of-day and day-of-week factors.


Just My Opinion ...

David G Lewis                              AT&T Bell Laboratories
david.g.lewis@att.com or !att!goofy!deej     Switching & ISDN Implementation
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:16:01 EST (Tue)
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Strange Intercept Message
Organization: I.E.C.C.
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 48, Message 11 of 13

> The number is 800-952-5388.

It says "Kein Anschluss unter diese Nummer," this number is not
connected.


Regards,

John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
From: clayton@master.lds-az.loral.com (Tom Clayton)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Singapore Phone System Questions
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:36:10 GMT
Organization: Loral Defense Systems
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 44, Message 4 of 15

Some of my colleagues are scheduled to go to Singapore on a field
service assignment, and would like to maintain a Fax/data
communication link with our facility here in the U.S.  Their concern
is that the Fax machine and data modem available to them might not be
compatible with the phone system in Singapore.

Any hints, tips, or suggestions would be most welcome. Please respond
via e-mail to:

         clayton@master.lds-az.loral.com

Thanks,

Tom
From: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov (Dave Niebuhr)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Do Telcos Record the Numbers of Local Calls?
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:54:22 GMT
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 41, Message 3 of 12

In TELECOM Digest V13 #37 martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (martin
McCormick) writes:

[ ... Text about murders in Stillwater, Ok. deleted ... ]

> According to our paper, one of the things that the police did was
> to ask Southwestern Bell for telephone records.  Apparently, blood was
> found on a telephone and the police wanted to see who might have been
> called.

> All of this occurred about a month after Stillwater got its
> DMS100 switch.  I don't know what the records showed, because the
> girl's story fell apart and she ended up essentially admitting to the
> murders.  I wouldn't be a bit surprised if there is some internal
> maintenance log of connections.  We do not have measured service,
> here, but even the old Xbar switch printed logs of trouble reports.

The recent sad case of Katie Beers of Mastic Beach, New York, saw the
telephone involved in her safe recovery and the apprehension of John
Esposito who allegedly (I use that word only because he hasn't been
convicted yet) kidnapped her and held her in a dungeon.

The payphone where Katie made a call was found by doing a check of her
godmother's phone logs at the telco office.  This helped in finding
the girl and the arrest of Esposito.

BTW: I live three blocks from her in Mastic Beach, New York, but I
cannot honestly say that I ever saw her in the last few years.


Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:11:37 GMT
From: tep@tots.Logicon.COM (Tom Perrine)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: "Secret" Phone Codes
Organization: Logicon, Inc., San Diego, California
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 40, Message 6 of 13

In article <telecom13.37.15@eecs.nwu.edu> tompkins@tti.com (Tompkins)
writes:

<original query deleted>

> In one of those discussions, about a year ago, a number was posted
> that purported to work nationally: 10732-1-404-988-9664.  10732 is a
> private ATT network.  I know that this number does return your area
> code and number verbally from 213, 310 and 818 area codes, and I have
> read reports from others that it works elsewhere.  It does add an
> "eight" to the end of any number I've ever called it from.

It works from 619, I called from behind our PBX and it returned the
outgoing trunk number ...


Tom E. Perrine (tep)     | tep@Logicon.COM       |Voice: +1 619 597 7221
Logicon, Inc.            | sun!suntan!tots!tep   |  or : +1 619 455 1330
4010 Sorrento Valley Blvd|                       |  FAX: +1 619 552 0729
San Diego CA 92121-1498
From: cm538@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Timothy E White)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Remote Test Unit
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:00:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 46, Message 10 of 12

New York Telephone Central District has begun a service improvement
program utilizing Micro Computer System's 105A Remote Test Unit.  This
equipment, which is primarily a 77 Analyzer with enhanced features, is
mounted in the central office of the NNXs to be tested.
 
The 105A RTU is capable of testing all working and non/working pairs
originating from the CO.  The working POTS lines are accessed through
the test train of the switch.  The non-working pairs are accessed at
the MDF with an optional 100 pair portable shoe switch.  Single pair
access is available through our MLT 1 dialup or by means of the single
pair shoe clip at the MDF.  Remote switches and subscriber loops on
the F2 side of pair gain devices can be tested with an optional 107A
RTU located at the remote location.
 
The unit is programmable and can do sequential NLT and LDT scans
unattended.  Demand test can be performed virtually simultaneously
with the scan tests and all test results can be printed to screen,
disk or printer.  In addition all tests can be saved in a number of
different formats.  Communication with the equipment is performed
through a dumb terminal, a test station or a PC with MODEM.
 
I would like to hear from any groups or individuals that have had
experience with this equipment.  I would especially welcome detailed
comments on any successes (or failures) utilizing the 105.
 
(These comments and observations are my own and I represent no one
other than myself).
 

Thank you.

Tim White     In upstate New York, wishing it was New Mexico.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 08:26:11 EST
From: delancy@chesapeake.ads.com (J.D. Delancy)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Prodigy <> Internet Gateway Almost Finished
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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tbanham@cybernet writes:

> I just got a note from Prodigy that advised me to look for Internet
> mail access in January,

Must be close.  I sent a note to a friend that has a Prodigy ID.  It
got to the INETGATE.PRODIGY.COM before it bounced on error code 530
(configuration problems).  Apparently the coding to handoff internet
mail from the gateway to the Prodigy users still has to be finished.
From: lvc@cbvox1.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: US Losing Lead in Telecom - USC Report
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:56:10 GMT
Organization: Ideology Busters, Inc.
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In article <telecom13.32.8@eecs.nwu.edu> jimmy@denwa.info.com (Jim
Gottlieb) writes:

> MCMANGPH@NUSVM.BITNET (Ang Peng Hwa) writes:

>> like Japan, the United Kingdom, Singapore and others write off and
>> replace equipment twice as fast as most US carriers."

> I suspect it is much easier to upgrade existing facilities when your
> country is much smaller than the vast United States.

That's part of it.  Another is US tax code depreciate rates for
telecom gear are slower than other countries.  If I recall correctly,
switching equipment is depreciated over something quite large, on the
order of 15 years.  Maybe that made sense pre-AT&T divestiture when
telecom gear didn't improve as fast as it does today.


Larry Cipriani, att!cbvox1!lvc or lvc@cbvox1.att.com
From: williams@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu (Mark Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Can Paging Software Detect Alphanumerics?
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:29:40 GMT
Organization: Texas Christian University
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 40, Message 2 of 13

Is there an online version of the IXO/TAP standard for alpha pagers?
(Of the documentation, that is.)


Mark Williams    williams@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 13:22:57 GMT
From: lehane@siesoft.co.uk (Lehane Kellet)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: FCC Awards Pioneers Preference to Volunteers in Tech Assistance
Organization: G8KMH's home for stray RF signals
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ndallen@r-node.pci.on.ca (Nigel Allen) writes:

> FCC Awards Pioneers Preference to Volunteers in Technical Assistance

> WASHINGTON, Jan. 14 -- The Federal Communications Commission today
> allocated four MHz of VHF/UHF spectrum to the Mobile Satellite Service

Anybody know which four meg?

> The FCC stated that it awarded the pioneer's preference to VITA
> because it was the first to develop and demonstrate the utility of a
> small low earth orbiting satellite system for civilian communications
> purposes.  The commission also noted that VITA's pioneering efforts

Radio Amateurs aren't civilians? AMSAT have being using LEO for years.
And VITA piggybacked on UOSAT (and co-funded).

A mention of AMSAT/amateur radio would have been nice ...


Regards,

Lehane Kellett. G8KMH. Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems, Bracknell.
lehane@siesoft.co.uk  NTS: g8kmh@gb3xp  amprnet: g8kmh@g8kmh.ampr.org
Standard disclaimers apply. Warranty void if opened.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:01:06 GMT
From: timhu@ico.isc.com (Timothy Hu)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: "Secret" Phone Codes
Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Boulder CO
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 39, Message 11 of 12

In article <telecom13.37.15@eecs.nwu.edu> tompkins@tti.com (Tompkins)
writes:

> that purported to work nationally: 10732-1-404-988-9664.  10732 is a
> private ATT network.  I know that this number does return your area
> code and number verbally from 213, 310 and 818 area codes, and I have
> read reports from others that it works elsewhere.  It does add an
> "eight" to the end of any number I've ever called it from.
 
I tried it here in Boulder. It works!


Timothy Hu timhu@ico.isc.com	 | The intelligence (or lack of) expressed
Interactive Systems Corporation  | above does not necessarily reflect
Resource Solutions International | that of anyone else.
From: dwn@dwn.ccd.bnl.gov (Dave Niebuhr)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Fast Backups of Data over Nets/Subnets
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:48:38 GMT
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 41, Message 6 of 12

In TELECOM Digest V13 #29 From: na@princeton.edu (Nita Avalani)
writes:

> (2) Are there any high speed hardware/software alternatives to
> restore/dump in Unix that would back up everything on the
> nets/subnets?  If so, what is the best product?

Yes there are.  AT&T has a product called ABARS that does this very
quietly and fast.  All data is stored on optical media and all
iterations of files are backed up daily.

We at Brookhaven National Laboratory have this system installed and
I've found that retrieval is quite quick (under two minutes for a file
of up to 20K bytes with most of the overhead being in finding the
correct platter.  It's even faster if the file or files are located on
the same one.


Dave Niebuhr      Internet: niebuhr@bnl.gov / Bitnet: niebuhr@bnl
Brookhaven National Laboratory Upton, NY 11973  (516)-282-3093
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 04:20:25 GMT
From: tomw@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Tom Worthington)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Government Open Systems Document for Comment
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 38, Message 10 of 11

The Australian government has issued a draft Open Systems standards
document for your comment by 12 February 1993. The document available
via the Internet. For further details see the "aus.acs" or
"comp.protocols.iso" newsgroup.


Tom Worthington   Director of the Community Affairs Board 
Australian Computer Society Incorporated  E-Mail: tomw@adfa.oz.au
From: ucsd!sceard!fewmets!ron@uunet.UU.NET
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: You Didn't Accept a Collect Call, But You'll be Billed Anyway?
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:28:44 GMT
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 13, Issue 42, Message 1 of 14

jack@myamiga.mixcom.com writes:

> When the operator did come back on the line, the girl didn't have
> enough money to pay for the rest of the call, and because her parents
> don't currently have a phone (or so she claims), there was no number
> that the call could be billed to.  So the operator stated that the
> remainder would be charged to the party she called.  At no time did
> the operator converse directly with my son, although he could overhear
> all of this.  After this the call was disconnected.

Boy, can I top this story :-)

Several years ago, my 21+ year old son quit his appartment and took an
open-ended trip to Australia. Some disturbing incidents occurred which
resulted in *many* long distance calls from him to me. Several months
later, I received a > $1000 phone bill from AT&T for the calls. Seems
that my son had charged his calls with an AT&T credit card on his
disconnected US phone number. I contacted AT&T and could find no one
that would admit having the authority to change the bill. As far at
AT&T was concerned, my son had the same last name, therefore, I should
pay for the calls (seems logical to me :-) I went around and around
with them. The issue was not setteled until my son returned to the US
and paid the bill himself. I carried a derogatory on my TRW report
(with my explanation appended) for several years. I do not recommend
AT&T as a company to do business with.


[Moderator's Note: Another of our regular contributors could tell a
similar story about having been in business *as a corporation* for a
period of time and going out of business, only to have AT&T come to
him personally for the unpaid phone charges later on, insisting that
he was responsible for the corporation he formerly was associated
with.  But I'll let him tell the story if he wants; it may be for some
reason he does not want the details aired.   PAT]
Date: Sat, 22 Jan 93 10:47 PST
From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Apartment Security Stupidity
Reply-To: John Higdon <john@zygot.ati.com>
Organization: Green Hills and Cows
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Albert Crosby <acrosby@uafhp.uark.edu> writes:

> If you blocked 900 numbers, 976 numbers (and I guess in this day and
> age, 800 numbers) plus had no default LD carrier, is there any reason
> such a line wouldn't be suitable for a security system?

What about intraLATA calls not carried by an IXC? Does SWBT agree to
block calls that generate revenue for itself? And what about carrier
codes? I have a number of lines with no default carrier, but any
company that allows casual calling is happy to put the call through
and bill the number. How about charges for DA? How about charges for
emergency intercept or verification placed through the SWBT operator?

Tell you what: you put an ordinary telephone set on any line that has
dial tone one it from SWBT and let me have a crack at it. I'll take
you to dinner if I cannot run up some kind of extra charge on it.


John Higdon  |   P. O. Box 7648   |   +1 408 264 4115     |       FAX:
john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407


[Moderator's Note: John points out the best reason of all for using a
stand-alone unit instead of a POTS line. Even the most secure of the
front door POTs lines still have little chinks in the armor for use by
people who know what they are doing, and that is all it takes.   PAT]
From: kthompso@donald.wichitaks.NCR.COM (Ken Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: N.E. Telephone Admits Ripoff - Refuses Restitution
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:32:38 GMT
Organization: NCR Corporation Wichita, KS
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sth@slipknot.mit.edu (Scott Hannahs) writes:

> Just a follow up to the note I posted last week.  New England
> Telephone now admits (verbally) that they were miss-billing (read
> overcharging) everyone in my exchange.  They are willing to rebate me
> the amount they overcharged but I was told, "We can't rebate everyone
> since that would cost too much".  I didn't hear any complaints about
> collecting too much money.  They will rebate anyone who complains
> about it.

Complain to your state corporation commision.  They regulate
utilities, and can force them to refund all rate payers for
over-charges.


Ken Thompson    N0ITL  
NCR Corp.  Peripheral Products Division   Disk Array Development
3718 N. Rock Road  Wichita KS 67226   (316)636-8783
Ken.Thompson@wichitaks.ncr.com
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:24:03 GMT
From: sgd@tfm.com (Stephen Diercouff)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Strange Intercept Message
Organization: tfm Associates, Ltd.
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starr@hriso.att.com writes:

> A friend of mine accidently dialed an 800 number, and received a
> strange repeating intercept message.  I haven't even a clue as to the
> language, but my guess is the message is attempting to say that the
> number you have dialed is not in service.  The number is 800-952-5388.

The intercept is, "Kein Anschluss unter dieser Nummer", which, if I
remember my German means, "No connection for this number".


Stephen Diercouff, tfm Associates, Ltd., Bellingham WA  voice: +1 206 733 5721
Internet:  sgd@tfm.com                                    fax: +1 206 738 0630
UUCP    :  uunet!nwnexus!tfm!sgd
Snail   :  P.O. Box 5084/Bellingham WA 98227-5084
From: weave@apache.dtcc.edu (Ken Weaverling)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: "Secret" Phone Codes
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:05:31 GMT
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
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In article <telecom13.45.2@eecs.nwu.edu> tener@cs.widener.edu (Stuart
Tener) writes:

> A friend of mine tried this number, and said it works from 215!  Only
> thing is he said that it gave an "8" at the end of the number?!?

Ah, you haven't been paying attention. This is in preparation for
North America to switch to 8 digit phone numbers with existing numbers
having an 8 added to them.

   !!! NOT !!!


Weave's 10/90 recipe for insanity: Take one programmer, divide into
portions: 10% programming consisting of equal parts in systems and
applications plus admin duties broken down into 20% for Unix, 5%
PRIMOS, 10% hardware and network, 35% DOS/Windows, 10% news, 5%
postmaster, and 5% babysitting IRC kiddies.