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From: moakler@romulus.rutgers.edu (bam!)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Rangers imports
Keywords: Andersson, Zubov facts, please
Date: 6 Sep 92 19:56:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	Could anyone tell me anything about soon-to-be Rangers
defensemen Mikael Andersson of Sweden and Sergei Zubov(?) of the CIS.
I know that Andersson is 24 and played for Malmo last season, where he
scored a decent amount of points, but other info would be appreciated.
I am especially interested in the size, handedness, speed, and
defensive ability of these two players and would also appreciate any
comments or evaluations that you might send (Such as, is Andersson
better than, say, Per Djoos?)
	It's just that, with all the signings that the Rangers have
done this year, I have no idea who is going to make this team after
the stars and the key role players.

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From: freds@everest.tandem.com (Fred Sabernick)
Subject: Re: ESPN announcers
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Cupertino CA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:11:53 GMT

Personally, I was always partial to the USA team of the mid-eighties, 
Al Trautwig and Gary "I'm available for weddings/funerals/bar-mitzvahs"
Green.

I saw some of Al Trautwig during NBC's Summer Olympic coverage, and he
was as competent as ever in a thankless role (I think he was covering rowing).

-- FCS

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Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 17:27:37 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: ESPN announcers


Sorry if this has been covered in one of the many ESPN postings...

Any word on announcers?  Is this going to handled like SC where
we'll get the local announcers or will it be something like ESPN
had before?  Ah...Emrick and Clement.  I liked them back then.
Are they still the Flyer announcers?

I have a Mike Emrick question while I'm on the subject.  Does anyone
know if he has a writer, if he prepares things before a telecast, or
if is he is just great on his feet?  He's often so eloquent and poetic
at what seems to be a moment's notice.  The magic of television, perhaps.

Mom.
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Subject: minor league newslineI am a fan of the IHL Cincinnati Cyclones. There is a way to form an IHL
From: <RL9OEDPF@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 11 Sep 1992 11:48:26 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

newsline in which anyone who has IHL news could send news to that E-MAIL
address and then all subscribers would get the news. We have something like
that for the ECHL. Does anyone out there know how to do this? Please be advised
that you are writing to a computer idiot (me). I beleive that we should all be
using manual underwood typewriters with carbon paper so be KIND and write in
short sentences when writing back. Actually, if anyone (especially those folks
who set this up for the ECHL) knows how to do this perhaps they could offer
IHL a friendly service.
    A bit of Cyclone news. The Cyclones are an independent team this year with
no NHl affiliation. They have only two players under contract- one from the
ECHL team of last year and one Czeck player I've never heard of. They are
having tryouts and have invited 9 players from last year's ECHL team so
hopefully the team will have a strong flavor from a very popular team last
year. I'll keep people poseted on the team's doing.
     If anyone can help getting a newsline started, I thank you in advance!!
 
                                           Rich Luftig
From: thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Euro Cup '92/Kreenholm?
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:45:06 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Aug31.092728.24822@eua.ericsson.se>, euaaen@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall) writes:
> The set-up for this year's Euro Cup has been decided. Loads of new
> countries means that there will be no less than 26 teams competing.
 
First I thought group C would be kid stuff for Jokerit Helsinki;
it should be a sure semi-final team!
> Group C (Denmark): Jokerit (Finland), Herning (Denmark), Kreenholm Tallinn
> (Estonia).

But what actually is this Kreenholm Tallin? Are you sure that you are
not referring to Kreenholm Narva (because Kreenholm is the biggest
enterprise in Estonian Narva town near Skt. Petersburg!).

If I am correct, it is a Russian(-Estonian) team, and it should
by no means be underestimated!

As far as I know, there is not any ice hockey worth mentioning
in Tallin!



With the best regards
Tapani Hietaniemi
a
Jokerit Helsinki &
Helsingfors Idrottsfo"rening Kamraterna (HIFK)
fan
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From: lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson)
Subject: Re: Bruins vs Whalers
Reply-To: lsa@ll.mit.edu (lisa s anderson)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 13:55:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.223729.21390@scott.skidmore.edu>, mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok) writes:

|>the initial statement.  the only reason why so many bruin fans come to
|>hartford is because they all have no life, no jobs, and nothing better
|>to do with their time.  Hartford is basically a working-class yuppie
|>crowd, unlike Boston which is a bunch of low-life, no job having, no
|>education using, beer drinking, 1970s living, no hockey-understanding,
|>losers.

I resemble that remark!

|>But I can't say anything too negative about the team, they have been
|>pretty good throughtout franchise history.
|>

You were going pretty good and then you had to go and spoil it...

|>THIS IS THE YEAR OF THE WHALE!
|>watch for Michael Nylander to be a higher scorer than Eric Lindos
|>

Well, it looks like you recovered.  


Wow, the season hasn't even started yet, and the Bruins fans bashing is
already at full tilt.  I love it!!  


-lisa

P.S. GO BRUINS!!!!  (and where is my beer dammit?!)
From: sross@cdc001.austin.ibm.com (Stacey Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Pity Story - a southern hockey fan
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:18:07 GMT
Reply-To: Don't Bother - no email access
Organization: IBM Austin, TX

I was born and raised in Lexington Kentucky and attend school at the University
of Louisville. I am currently on an engineering co-op with IBM Austin. A friend
of mine who spent a couple years in St. Louis introduced me to hockey when I was
a sophomore in high school and now I'm hooked. I collect cards and try to watch
as many games as possible. At least, during the winter and early spring when I'm
in Louisville I can go watch the local ECHL team, the Louisville Icehawks. The
Icehawks never draw particularly big crowds unless they're playing some
particular team (I don't remember who at the moment), but the crowds that are
there are usually pretty rowdy.

Now I'm in Texas where the sports cards shops in town get a mighty chuckle when
I ask where all their hockey cards are.

I look at San Jose and Tampa teams forming, and it makes me realize a couple
things. First, there's no reason in the world that hockey "can't make it in the
South" because, my friends, hockey is not an outdoor sport. Perhaps the Northern
regions will always come up with better hockey players because any old Joe has a
frozen pond in his backyard or whatever, but there's no reason that hockey can't
be a moneymaking spectator sport anywhere in the world.

San Jose did a couple things VERY right, in my opinion. The best move they made
was picking a couple modern-looking colors and a cool logo and then bombarding
the merchandising markets with everything from hats to shotglasses. I have a
fitted Sharks hat I wear from time to time and it always draws a little
attention because it's WAY different from the Astros/Oilers/Longhorns/Spurs
stuff you always see around here. Merchandising gave them visibility and not
just a small bit of money, I'd imagine. From what I've seen from the native San
Joseans' posts, the Sharks are here to stay. Cool, I'm all for it. Tampa should,
if they're not already, follow the same strategy to become known.

Now, the ESPN thing will put hockey into millions of other households, members
of which maybe have never seen hockey before. I was reluctant to watch
SCA-broadcast hockey games sometimes because of the biased announcing and the
hellaciously poor video quality. EVERYONE has ESPN (virtually). It seems to be
part of the average American's routine when checking cable channels to see
what's on. 

I think the NHL is definitely on a rising edge here, and I'm in a good place to
observe it happening. Just a lost hockey soul in an unsympathetic state.

                                                      Stace

<These opinions aren't nearly business oriented enough to be IBM's>
From: 832989@SKUL.USASK.CA (Glenn Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Best forwards ever?
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:56:11 GMT

From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
>I'm curious; it wasn't an NHL team, but who consisted of the second line
>behind Krutov-Larionov-Makarov?

The awesome Soviet national team that played in the 1987 Canada Cup had a
second line of:

	Valeri Kamensky		Viacheslav Bykov	Andrei Khomutov,

the latter two of whom were first line players on the 1992 gold-medal EUN
Olympic team.  I believe all three were also members of the Central Red Army
club team, which was essentially the national team for most of the 1980s.
Kamensky was only 21 years old when he played in the '87 Canada Cup.

Glenn
From: mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: SC/NHL/ESPN Court Battle
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:07:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

The judge in the last-gasp SCA trial threw out their temporary restraining
order against ESPN from advertising a package and rule on a preliminary
injunction on Friday.  ESPN must be pretty confident about winning, because
they were advertising the Pitt-Phila game like mad during their baseball
yesterday.


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*  Mike Burger                    *  I may have had the needle in my arm,     *
*  mmb@lamar.colostate.edu        *  but I never pushed the plunger.          *
*  University of Michigan - 1990  *  --Dave Barry                             *
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From: gavin@sorokin.anu.edu.au (Gavin K. Longmuir)
Subject: Re: University Hockey in Australia and Scotland
Organisation: Research School of Social Sciences, Australian National University
Reply-To: Gavin.Longmuir@anu.edu.au (Gavin Longmuir)
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:56:02 GMT

airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey) writes:

>	As I wish to embark on a Masters degree in Australia,
>	I would be most grateful if somebody down under 
>	(hey ! how about you Steven at Curtin UoT ???)
>	could please email me, or better still post to the net 
>	to create some interesting traffic, details about the
>	state of University hockey in Australia.

>	By this I mean, what are the best playing Universities,
>	and third level eduaction institutions, apart from the 
>	AIS (!!), and how many teams do they have, international
>	players provide etc etc.

>Richard.

Well, the Australian National University's (ANU) Mens Hockey Club has had some
world class players over the years (M. York, A. Dean), but in our clubs 50+
years we have only won the Australian Capital Territory Hockey Assoc. (ACTHA)
Mens Flag three times. We do very well as a club; having won the club
championship trophy for the last 13 years - and should also this year (all
teams in the finals).

The ACT mens comp. not the biggest around with approx. 80 teams in all grades
(ANU has had 11 to 13 teams entered in these grades in the six years I've
been with the club). Approx. 60% of teams/grades play on the three artifical
surfaces in Canberra.

ANU also enters a team in the Southern Super League and does well. As for
Inter-University comp (IV) well... I think it's really party time!

Gavin Longmuir
Sec. ANU Mens Hockey Club

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:21:52 -0400 
From: Geoffrey Spear <gs32+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: College hockey

	Anyone know where I can find scores for recent Div. I college field
hockey games?

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From: det@hawkmoon.mn.org (Derek Terveer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: HELLO!  ANYBODY HERE??????????
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:40:43 GMT
Organization: Demi-Public System (One of the Eternal Champions); Eagan, MN, 55123-2507, USA

hasnie@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Rizwan Hasnie) writes:
: 
:   Just cheking if this net still works.
:   Hockey fans! Where are you?

Well, I'm here and our first practice is this sunday at 1pm!  I haven't
played for months!!!!  It will be good to dribble and hit again.
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From: peter@Schultz.ON.CA (Peter Roeser)
Subject: Re: Junior World Cup
Organization: S-S Technologies Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:39:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.181247.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> tchristen01@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>
>Perhaps our European and American friend could investigate 
>the progress of Junior World Cup qualifiers from the Northern
>Hemisphere. 

	As it happens I was at Board meeting for Field Hockey Ontario last
	night and got the following information on the Women's Junior World
	Cup Qualifier for the Americas.  It is currently being held in
	Venezuela.
	Results to date:
	Canada  2  Cuba  0
	Cuba    1  USA   0
	USA     3  Paraguay  0
	Trinidad& Tobago  10   Venezuala  0
	Argentina  beat Chile (score not available)

	Play is being held in two pools. Top 2 or 3 teams will
	qualify for World Cup Play.
    Next game for Canada is Sunday.

	I don't have any information on the Men's Junior Team at
	this time.

>I hope this information helps to answer some of the questions
>raised.  I hope, also, it encourages more discussion on the net.

	If people are interested in FH in Canada I will continue to
	post information. I can also post Ontario Regional and club
	information if that is of interest.
	Our outdoor season will soon end and indoor activity should begin
	around the begining of November through to April.

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From: sam@cs.adelaide.edu.au (Sam Sangster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Re: University Hockey in Australia and Scotland
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:14:47 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey.field
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Adelaide.
NNTP-Posting-Host: blue-vein.sun-shop.adelaide.edu.au

In article <25787@castle.ed.ac.uk>, airdg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Richard Grey) writes:
|> 
|> 	As I wish to embark on a Masters degree in Australia,
|> 	I would be most grateful if somebody down under 
|> 	(hey ! how about you Steven at Curtin UoT ???)
|> 	could please email me, or better still post to the net 
|> 	to create some interesting traffic, details about the
|> 	state of University hockey in Australia.
|> 
|> 	By this I mean, what are the best playing Universities,
|> 	and third level eduaction institutions, apart from the 
|> 	AIS (!!), and how many teams do they have, international
|> 	players provide etc etc.


Well, working for the Uni of Adelaide, and playing for Adelaide Uni
Hockey Club, I would be tempted to say Adelaide, but I imagine that
that is not the case.

AUHC has 8 mens sides, ranging from Division 1 through 8, plus a superb veterans
side - you just about need to have played for Australia to play for this side,
coached and captained by Trevor Smith (the eldest of the Smith bros.).  There are a 
similar number of womens sides.

The Div 1 team (for which I play...) had a good first half of the season, but fell
away in the second half to finish out of the 5.

Having lived in Essex, UK for all of 1991, and having watched plenty of English
National League, especially Southgate (Vinson, Shaw et al), I would concede that
the standard of that competition is higher than our local (Adelaide, South Aust)
competition.  The only league which would compete would be the Perth league - and
that has something to do with the Aust Institute of Sport (Hockey) being based in
Perth.

Back to the Uni scene - every year until this year has been the Annual Hockey
Intervarsity Carnival, which has seen a few serious sides, and plenty of more
social sides ....
This year was the first of the new format:  Winter Games, where about 10 or so
sports all congregate in the one place.  I was not able to go, but from all 
reports having so many people in one place was too much, and the hockey people
tended to stick together anyway.


|> 	It would be interesting to hear other peoples views
|> 	from around the world.
|> 

Here they are, for what they're worth!

|> Richard.

-Sam.
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From: tchristen01@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Junior World Cup
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:12:47 GMT


In article <1992Sep9.012427.2279@vela.acs.oakland.edu>
mamohamm@vela.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL) writes;

>Does anybody know which teams are participating in the 
>Junior Hockey World Cup and what are the pairings or
>the groups?

>Who is the favorite?

I am able to provide some information about this question
but not the complete answer.  The finals of the Junior 
World Cup will be held in Terressa, Spain from 9-19 Sept, 1993.
During 1992, nations must qualify for a place in the Junior
World Cup finals.  The qualification tournaments are held to
identify the best teams from the various regions of the world.

For the Oceania region, Australia, New Zealand and Fiji will
compete in a qualifying tournament in Auckland during early
December, 1992.  This will be a joint junior mens and womens 
tournament.  Only one team from this tournament will qualify
for the mens and womens finals, respectively.

For the Asia region, Pakistan, India, Korea, Malaysia, and 
several other nations compete in Kuala Lumpur in Sept, 1992.
Unfortunately I do not have a full list of the nations competing.
However I believe it must be twelve or more teams since three
teams will qualify for the JWC finals in Terressa.  Sources in 
Australia expect Pakistan and India to qualify and for Korea
and Malaysia to battle for the 3rd place.  This information is
specific to the mens qualifying tournament.  I do not know how 
or where the womens qualifiers will be determined.

I am unaware of details for determining the finalists from
Europe, Africa, and the Americas, except that Germany will
automatically qualify since they won the 1989 Junior World Cup 
held in Ipoh, Malaysia.  Incidently, Germany beat Australia, 
who were coached by Terry Walsh (currently Malaysian Senior
Coach) in a penalty flick shoot out that finished at about 
11.00 pm local time.  I expect Spain to also be included in 
the finals, since they are the host nation.

Perhaps our European and American friend could investigate 
the progress of Junior World Cup qualifiers from the Northern
Hemisphere. 

I hope this information helps to answer some of the questions
raised.  I hope, also, it encourages more discussion on the net.
From: mamohamm@vela.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Junior World Cup
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:24:27 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.


Does anybody know which teams are participating in the 
Junior Hockey World Cup and what are the pairings or
the groups?

Who is the favorite?

BTW When is the next Champions's trophy?

regards

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From: blee@bcarh13d.bnr.ca (Brian Lee)
Subject:  Easter Hockey Festivals in England
Reply-To: blee@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:29:40 GMT

Hi,

   My club has decided to travel to England this Easter to play in
a tourney or festival there.  I would appreciate any information
about tournaments, festivals and contacts where I might be able
to find more information.  Thanx.

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From: raj@phys.ksu.edu (raj)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Hockey around the country
Date: 8 Sep 1992 21:41:14 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: piaget.phys.ksu.edu

I discovered this group by accident!  We should tell our friends who play
hockey about this group...

Can we swap stories at least to keep things interesting?

I played a little hockey at St. Xavier's School in Calcutta, INDIA back in
the 70s. I was never any good, but played goalie because no one else wanted
to...

Came to Vassar College in 1981 and became Asst. Field Hockey Coach (mainly
Goalkeeping Coach) at VC and the VC Summer Field Hockey Camps till 1985-6.

Since then I have practised a little with the BlackHawks a Southern Calif.
Men's team who play Sunday mornings at CSULB (figure that one out :-))

I hope to get back to the East Coast and play some Club hockey both indoor(!!)
and outdoor sometime in the next couple of years...


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