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From: dal@mdavcr.mda.ca (Dale Lutz)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: TSENG OS/2 2.0 Drivers
Keywords: OS/2 Drivers, TSENG Labs
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:31:42 GMT
Organization: MacDonald Dettwiler, 13800 Commerce Parkway, Richmond, BC, Canada  V6V 2J3

I've not posted before, and I'm not quite sure this works, so if some kind
soul gets this can they please send me some e-mail.

Having said that, I just got off the phone with TSENG labs and found
them to be extremely friendly and helpful.  The story I got was that
"seamless" windows drivers are quite a while off, BUT that PM
drivers should be available in the next week or so.  What I was told was
that they are going to make some modifications to the OS/2 1.2 TSENG
drivers which will allow them to operate under OS/2 2.0.
So at least I should be able to operate my WPS at 800x600x256,
and then run my windows apps in full screen mode at the same resolution
using my old windows-TSENG drivers.  Does that make sense?

As a related note, I've talked to IBM-Direct here in Canada several
times to find out where my OS/2 2.0 is.  They've told me repeatedly that
they're absolutely swamped with demand, and that I should have it by
April 23.  However, there have been reports in Vancouver of some
people having their 2.0 show up, even though they'd been told to
wait.

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From: rcook@grumpy.helios.nd.edu (robert cook)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: All GUIs are not alike
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:43:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr9.224352.367
Reply-To: Cook.14@nd.edu (R. Kelley Cook)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame

In article <CB.92Apr9134843@tamarack12.timbuk>, cb@tamarack12.timbuk (Chris Brewster) writes:
|> 
|> My wife has been using MS Windows at work and recently added a Mac to her
|> work environment (it's a fragmented environment where she needs both).  She
|> was amazed at how much better the Mac interface is than Windows--more
|> instinctive, more direct, fewer steps, etc.  (I have limited experience
|> with either, so I have no opinion.)  So I'm wondering: how does the new
|> OS/2 interface compare with these?  Is the interface closer in quality to
|> Windows or to the Mac?
|> 
|> Chris Brewster
|> cb@cray.com
|> GEnie: C.BREWSTER7

The WorkPlace Shell is a better GUI than both the Mac and Windows.

It is a lot like the Macintosh, but there are no menu bars on the desktop,
whenever you press the right mouse button, a menu appears under it.  
Like the Macintosh, you copy and move files by dragging a file from one
place to another.  WPS extends this to all objects though.  In order to 
print something, you can drag a file from its folder to the printer ICON
on the desktop:  WPS will launch the application it is associated with and
print it, but unlike the Mac you will not notice that the program had
to be loaded in order to accomplish this seemingly trivial task.  It is
a truly object oriented shell.


-- 
Robert Kelley Cook     << Cook.14@nd.edu >>
Univ. of Notre Dame     The future for Intel computers arrived March 31!
Physics Dept.            Long Live the new OS/2!  Time to close the Windows! 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Re: Intelligent users v. Microsoft
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:48:50 GMT

gregde@microsoft.com (Greg Demichillie) writes:

>You know, this whole debate about whether Windows is or is not an
>operating system has got to be the silliest thread I've ever
>seen.  In fact, it is so silly that it really calls into question
>the whole point of the thread.

That's OK.  Comp.os.os2.misc is multi-threaded, and so the performance
of other threads here are minimally affected.  :)

[I agree with Greg, this subject is beginning to get ridiculous]
-- 
John H. Kim                 | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever 
uunet!jarthur!jokim         | to use as a disclaimer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rvinluan@cs.cornell.edu (Rolando Vinluan)
Subject: Re: IBM, are you listening? (Was: Windoze 3.1 is here.)
Keywords: Yesterday(4 April) I saw Windoze 3.1 for sale here.
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:31:24 GMT

In article <iyyXiB8w164w@underg.UUCP> max@underg.UUCP (Max Cray) writes:
>brooke@cco.caltech.edu (Brooke Paul Anderson) writes:
>
>> Remember, we get news faster than most other people on the planet -- we
>> know some things before even some IBM employees find out.  Don't be
>> too discouraged -- if IBM is spending $40 million on advertising, you
>> will eventually see a marketing blitz.
>
>This is true. The IBM Marketdroid was very concerned when I told him I had 
>been running the OS/2 2.0 beta for months. I had to explain to him how 
>anybody could get a copy from the Atlanta support bbs. It is amazing how 
>little they know about what is going on? What do they do all day?
>

	What do IBMer's do all day? Most of the time, read and reply to
their PROFS messages. PROFS is their universe. There, in PROFS, they can 
play their office games: suck up to whoever manager they want to, get this 
order out, etc. There, they get new *IBM-only* information, which if they read it, 
they end up forgetting most of anyway.
Sometimes, they go to their manager's office or a meeting, where they always say 
"Everything's all right." (and most managers are too ignorant
to even begin doubting them). Sometimes, they might even do something productive,
like install or demo this or that for a customer, or for people at a computer show.
But most of them are not like you: They don't read PC Week or Infoworld, let
alone PC Magazine or (heavens!) Byte. IBM gives them so much *IBM-only*
manuals and brochures and stuff to read that even if they *wanted* to, they
couldn't read anything else.

	Of course, this mostly goes for SE's. Marketing Reps are too busy
calling up or having lunch with customers at some expensive restaurant, 
and don't care about anything else other than making their quota.
From: chenjs@acf3.NYU.EDU (Jiansheng Chen,1141 Meyer,8-7667,)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Mouse problem under os/2 2.0
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:54:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

/* acf3:comp.os.os2.misc / soh3@quads.uchicago.edu (min-woong sohn) /  1:25 am  Apr  9, 1992 */

I was one of those who were fortunate enough to get a free copy of
OS/2 2.0 at the Comdex.  I was trying to install it on my computer
(Compaq Deskpro 20 MHz with 5 meg memory and 300 meg disk).  I could
install it without much problem, but once I reboot the system
I found that my mouse (Logitech serial mouse) is not responding.
Is there a soul who had a similar problem?  How can get it work again?
I am just starting with OS/2, so if this question offended anybody
please pardon me.

Min
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Two Questions?
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:42:08 GMT

Robert Cain writes

>: 2.- I dont have a math coprocesor, how much would it improve the
>:     performance adding the coprocesor?

>Unless the font manager uses it, only applications will be affected. The
>operating system doesn't use it.  Anybody know about the font renderer?

ATM under OS/2 has NO floating point in it - not even when parsing
a Type 1 font program.  It operates completely with fixed-point
numbers.  

Scott Byer                                   NeXTMail: byer@adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated               These are *my* opinions, and  
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900        do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900             the opinions of my employer.
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From: spr@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian P Ruta)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Not all press coverage has been bad...
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:51:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cunixf.1992Apr17.005112.28909
Organization: Columbia University


Perhaps the PC rags have all written off OS/2, but it was given a
favorable review in MacWeek and today's Wall Street Journal (though
that article might scare away low-end users).

MacWeek mentioned that many of the features of OS/2 (pre-emptive
multi-tasking, true drag-and-drop, etc...) wont be implemented in the
Mac's system for many months (at *least* months) and that (as we all
know) it is a superior OS to Dos+Win.

Why are we all so upset that IBM isn't advertising enough? I have been
a Mac user for years (quietly enjoying what has been one of the best
OS's around) and did not mind being amongst a small percentage of the
computer users out there.  Even if OS/2 doesn't outsell Win, does it
really matter?  It would seem that at this point there is enough
interest and support for OS/2 that it's development will not cease,
and there are plenty of ISV's interested.  There are far fewer Mac
users out there and they have many incredible apps.  (They don't cover
_every_ field, but the Mac has been a very good platform for many
applications.)

It is now probable that OS/2 users will shortly outnumber the Mac
users.  Why does it matter whether we outnumber the Windows users?  If
anyone *wants* to use Windows, they *deserve* to use it.  You and I
will shortly have our GA, 2.1 is forthcoming, as are dedicated 32-bit
apps, etc...  If you have your system, all of the apps you want/need,
then what is this fuss about?  Yes, I too dislike MS as a company,
(more now than ever, since it looks like Apple will lose its suit
against them, news which raised MS's stock value by 8% and BGates' net
worth by HOW MUCH !?!?!), but I still use several of their products.

It scares me when I see this fanaticism about.....an operating system?
I wish IBM the best, because if they do well it will only (hopefully)
benefit us in their undertaking of more R&D.  We can do our part to
educate the masses (those who use Dos+Win because they don't know any
better) but I have to try to keep things in perspective.  

Just MHO.


-- Sebastian 
   spr@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Andrew Bros <bros@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: OS/2 command shells
Originator: bros@mikey.convex.com
Reply-To: bros@convex.COM (Andrew Bros)
Organization: Convex Computer Corporation, Richardson, TX
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:50:12 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <880506s.703134058@aucs> 880506s@aucs.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner) writes:
>	I am trying to make a list of all the shells currently 
>avaliable for OS/2 and this is what I have been able to come up
>with:
>
>	CMD.EXE ( the standard OS/2 command shell )
>	SH.EXE  ( the Bourne shell port )
>        CSH     ( the Hamilton version )
>        4OS2    ( the equivelent to 4DOS )
>
>Does anybody know of any that I have overlooked?

  MKS (Mortice Kern Systems) sells a toolbox that includes ksh (Korn
shell), as well as other Unix utilities.  I don't think they've
released a v2.0 specific version yet, but the v1.3 has been around for
a while.  Does anyone know what revision of the Korn shell MKS most
resembles?
-- 
Andrew Bros				bros@convex.com
Technical Assistance Center		Convex Computer Corporation
Hacker's Dictionary:  DOS: Dain-bramaged Operating System
From: ingram@hotair.enet.dec.com (Larry J. Ingram)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: I WANT MY UPGRADE NOWpwd!
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:17:30 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <9204081642.AA14772@ebs330.eb.uah.edu>, kchittur@EBS330.EB.UAH.EDU (Krishnan Chittur(CHE)) writes...
>. 
>.
>.
>but .. but ... Why cannot I take my proof of licence form to a
>local dealer and get the upgrade?  (sigh .. sigh .. sigh ..)

	I'm curious as to what this massive retail channel is that IBM is
	filling. Egghead doesn't have it, CompUSA doesn't have it, CompuAdd
	doesn't have it, nor does Software etc., Babbages, Bizmart, Sears (we
	don't have a business center in Albuquerque), or any of the other
	local software stores. Everyone I've called has told me they won't
	be carrying it, not that it just hasn't come in yet.

	All indications are, OS/2 is available from IBM only. What is this
	black hole that they are calling a "retail channel"?

Larry
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cb@tamarack12.timbuk (Chris Brewster)
Subject: PC Magazine coverage
Organization: pubs
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:15:33 CDT


The new PC Magazine screams 

         WINDOWS 3.1 

in type that would be appropriate for the end of a world war.  Then, in
type about 1/100 as big, it says "OS/2 2.0: great technology, but can it
compete?".  The relation of these headlines is as brazen a bit of Microsoft
promotion as I've seen so far: a minor release of an inferior kludge is
treated like the beginning of a new era, but a major release of the real
thing is mentioned only patronizingly.  The title of the OS/2 article
inside is something like "Can OS/2 live up to its billing?"

Why is OS/2 treated with snide rhetorical questions, while Windows is given
the benefit of the doubt on every issue?  PC Mag's answer would be "because
Windows has sold well and OS/2 hasn't", which means that the future is
doomed to only continue the past: no fundamental change can occur.  This
seems a poor assumption in high technology.  

The OS/2 article itself isn't too bad, if it weren't dwarfed in size and
presentation by the Windows article.  All in all a discouraging result for
an important edition of the magazine.

Chris Brewster
cb@cray.com
GEnie: C.BREWSTER7
From: jhakuli@cs.joensuu.fi (Janne Hakulinen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: 2.0 questions ...
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:06:52 GMT
Organization: University of Joensuu


Hi,

    I have not received my 2.0 yet but I'd like to know following
    things before I get it:


    1) With MOST can I direct dos system to physically
       different drive ?

    2) I saw a warning which said that there could be
       difficulties with certain AMI BIOS versions when
       using 2.0. What difficulties can be expected?
       Do they arise in certain environmets (like LAN
       systems) or what?
       BTW, according that warning I should have some
       problems with v1.3 but after using v1.3 over
       1,5 years I have not discovered anything.

    3) Finally, does 2.0 have new driver for HP DraftMaster
       plotter? I am specifically interested in if there
       is an option for user selectable paper size?


Janne Hakulinen
jhakuli@cs.joensuu.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2,comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: IBM 800# ?
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:01:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.185840.2123@snow.geology.wisc.edu> barker@snow.geology.wisc.edu (William Wayne Barker) writes:
>Ok, I'm convinced from reading this newsgroup that OS2 is the correct
>upgrade from Windows 3.0.  Could someone please post the 800 number for big
>blue so that I can make the deal?  Thanks very much,

In the U.S., 1-800-3-IBM-OS2.
-- 
Timothy F. Sipples       Keeper of the OS/2 Frequently Asked Questions
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu  List, available via anonymous ftp from
Dept. of Economics       128.123.35.151, directory pub/os2/faq, or via
Univ. of Chicago  60637  netmail from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca (Pat Duffy)
Subject: PCTeX won't run very well...
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 09:04:30 GMT

Hi All!

I have an old copy of PCTeX (2.931) that I am trying to get to run in a DOS
session.  Only problem is, it won't run successfully.  It starts up o.k., and
then complains that it can't find my .sty (article or report or whatever)
file and asks for the name of another file to load.  Of course I can't break
out of this in the DOS session itself and I have to exit, close, and reopen
(gotta love these VDMs :-).

Still, though, I'm not getting any text formatting done.  I've tried putting
the path to the .sty files in the path (shouldn't have to) and running fix_find
in the autoexec.bat file, loaded both high and low.  Any permutation of these
produces largely the same result.  Does anybody know a workaround?  I don't 
like to hve to keep on uploading to the mainframe at UBC all the time to "TeX"
it (especially since I can't view the .dvi files there).

Thanks in advance for any and all help!
-- 
Patrick Duffy, E-Mail:  duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca
 
"I wouldn't believe in anything if it weren't for my lucky astrology mood
watch."  - Steve Martin
From: horan@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Phoning Diamond about Drivers.
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:57:44 GMT

Does anyone have a number for Diamond (as in diamand speedstar).
I'm trying to call and ask about drivers for my card, but no one answers
the number:
408-736-2000

Is there a new one?  Or has anyone heard news?

5000
Gregg Horan
From: pebly@vnet.ibm.com (Bob Pebly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 Live at Comdex
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:12:21 GMT
Reply-To: pebly@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Industrial Sector Division, Boca Raton, FL

Just finished watching Lee Reiswig demo OS/2 2.0 live at Comdex.  The
last item in the demo was a copy of Windows =>3.1<= running in a
window on the 2.0 desktop!                    ~~~

Bob Pebly

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's view, not those of IBM.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Comparative programming OS/2 / Win (was Re: sexy guis?)
From: jstewart@desire.wright.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:47:52 EST
Distribution: comp
Organization: Wright State University 


In article <1992Apr2.170826.22936@cm.cf.ac.uk>, gedge@cm.cf.ac.uk (Geraint A Edwards) writes:
> "michael daly" <michael.daly@canrem.com> writes:
> } I've never seen animated Windows icons - do such exist?
> 
> As an ex-Windows programmer (briefly), I think that it is
> possible to write an app. that writes its own icon every
> now and then (using a timer, perhaps).

	How else does the clock update itself(when iconified)?:)

> 
> What I'd like to know is, how (dis)similar are the two GUIs
> (Windows and the OS/2 desktop) when programming?
> 
> Has anyone ported between the two?  How easy was it?
> 
> Gedge
> -- 
> Geraint A Edwards, Computing PhD student.  OS/2 2.0 may be curtains for Windows
> gedge@cm.cf.ac.uk  gedge%cm.cf.ac.uk@nsf.ac.uk  ...!uunet!mcsun!ukc!cf-cm!gedge
> We live in a time when man would rather be envied than esteemed.   (G. Trudeau)
  \
   How true, how sad:(
From: kl@isr.harvard.edu (Kun Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: A Practical Question about OS/2 performance
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:53:10 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

Hello, OS/2 users,
I am new to this group and thinking about moving to OS/2. I just upgraded
to Windows 3.1 and disappointed. I am basically a DOS 5.0 user. I don't run
any Win3 applications other than the provied ones with the pacakage. I use
WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS, Quattro Pro 4.0 for DOS, PCtools 7.1 for DOS, and
some other utilities. Whenever I tried to run these applications in Windows
I wasn't able to relax. It has not been reliable, cursor movement has been
jumpy, screen scroll has been jumpy, and most of all floppy access has been
too slow. I also used Desqview and it has not been far from Windows
performance. Will these symptoms be improved a lot if I use OS/2?

As an average user of PC, it is nice to have a multitasking environment
with reliable performance. It is not necessary to be super fast nor to have
fancy GUI. What I, like most people I know, like to do is to write my
material and do some calculation at the same time. Windows and Desqview did
not provide me this with reliability and tolerable smoothness. 

By the way, I am using Dataworld 386DX/20MHz, 4M RAM, 40M Conner drive (I
know I have upgrade the drive), with Orchid ProDesigner Plus w/ 512K.  
Would an upgrade of mother board be recommende?

Thanks in advance.
--
Kun Lee 
Dept of Sociology, Harvard Univ, Cambridge, MA 02138
InterNet: kl@isr.harvard.edu		 BITNET: kl@harvunxw
From: unixlan+@pitt.edu (Wei-ming (William) Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Borland C++ for OS/2 v.2.0
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:29:18 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Sid,

All I want to say is get the compiler out AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, and make
it VERY VERY CHEAP for BC++ 3.0 users(like me, of course ;) to upgrade.
I can not tell you how terrible I feel every night when I think of those
Windows apps, utils and sharewares coming out minutes after minutes and
there is a drought in OS/2 apps.  I am writing a small Windows database
program now.  It started before OS/2 V2 gathered enough momentum toward
its destined success.  If I want to port it to OS/2 V2 today, it will be
almost impossible because 1) I can not afford to buy IBM's C Set/2; 2)
IBM will not even discount the price for me because I am not like those
heavy weight developers such as Borland who can promise to roll out a
complete product in certain time frame; 3) no descent class libraries
available for OS/2 V2.  Well, I am not whining here.  Just throw out a
high quality and fair priced PM-specific C++ compiler, and I will AGAIN
throw back my pocket money to you.  How about that?


William Lin

"UNIX(tm), X & LAN --- The Promise of the Future!!"
"And OS/2 V2.0!!"

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"And OS/2 > V2.0, IF IT COMES OUT BEFORE APRIL!!"
From: mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 GA Problems with BIOS, need help!
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:29:07 GMT
Reply-To: mo@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mohit Goyal)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: mo@louie.cc.utexas.edu


 Hello.  I posted a message earlier today listing all of the problems I had
with OS/2 GA.  Anyways, it has been suggested that it might be a keyboard
BIOS compatibility problem.  Well, I'm not sure how to tell what version my
keyboard BIOS is, but the version that my AMI BIOS from 4-9-90 puts on the
screen when I load up is:
SINT-1185-040990-KD
Here is the AMI BIOS version of a friend's computer who has had no problems
running OS/2 GA:
E307-1109-083089-K8
Are either of these BIOS's good for OS/2?
What is an acceptable BIOS version and/or date for OS/2?  If I need to get
a new BIOS, are their any other companies that make better BIOS'?  Thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tnt@netcom.com (Terry Turner)
Subject: Re: YACR (Yet Another Cron Request)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:30:28 GMT
Organization: Watch the Skies

In article <parker.703186793@vela> parker@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jeffrey D. Parker) writes:


   Sorry.  I know I have seen this request before at least half a dozen
   times.  But, I need a version of Cron for OS/2.  I tried chron23.zoo
   from the OS/2 archives, but it has a bug in the date handling.  I will
   be sending off a bug report to the authors' CI$ address.  However, in
   the meantime, I was hoping someone knew of another one.

it is not what you asked for but i'll make the offer: i wrote a small 
library as a dll which supports scheduling and timers. (i needed 
multiple timers without regard to os2 arbitrary limits). a chron-like
application would be relatively trivial using it. 

it is available for 1.3 or 2.0 complete with source and test program.



-- 
terry
	tnt@netcom.com