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From: matmcinn@nuscc.nus.sg (Brett McInnes)
Subject: Re: NECRONOMICON : - Help: a FAQ from an interested party.
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:40:25 GMT

			: 
:    Altogether now, gang, slowly and carefully,
: THERE IS NO - NO!!!! - NECRONOMICON.
	Yeah, right, you would say that wouldn't you.
Newsgroups: alt.necromicon
From: mporter@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mitchell Porter)
Subject: Re: This Newsgroup
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 06:00:20 GMT

harral@dept.physics.upenn.edu (Brian Harral) writes:

>In article <1drk3qINNk3e@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:
>|>
>|> [Actual text deleted]
>|>
>|> "1. One Mind there is; but under it two principles contend.       
>|>  2. The Mind lets in the light, then the dark, in interaction; so time is gen-
>|>  erated.  At the end Mind awards victory to the light; time ceases and the Mind
>|>  is complete."        - from _Tractates: Cryptica Scriptura_

>Or should alt.valis be created?
YES YES YES! You'd have my vote!
From: 2y16mulsoffr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.necromicon
Subject: Re: NECRONOMICON : - Help: a FAQ from an interested party.
Date: 17 Nov 1992 19:29:29 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2y16mulsoffr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

In article <1992Nov17.160451.24633@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, rgv9488@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>THERE IS A NECRONOMICON!!!!! I HAVE SEEN IT!!!! PRAISE ENLIL!!! IT IS REAL!!
>
>                             >>>Aanteroch, High priest of Shub-Niggurath
>____________________________________________________________________________
>|                    May you awaken in the halls of R'lyeh!                |
>|--------------------------------------------------------------------------|

it is my fondest wish.
wonko, lord high troll and purveyoor of fine green soapstones from the 
    nine galaxies
Newsgroups: alt.necromicon
From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: NECRONOMICON : - Help: a FAQ from an interested party.
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:28:16 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In alt.necromicon lizi@soda.berkeley.edu (Cosma Shalizi) writes:
;THERE IS NO - NO!!!! - NECRONOMICON.

Party pooper.

---
chris
From: mikecap@guardian.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr)
Newsgroups: alt.necromicon
Subject: Re: Please help me.
Date: 22 Nov 1992 21:12:17 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: guardian.wpi.edu


>Javier Garcia-Torres (garcia@husc8.harvard.edu) wrote:
>.......
>: alt.* newsgroup, but simply to type in a certain command.  I'm really
>: interested in starting a newsgroup called alt.time.travel, so if the
>: creator of alt.necromicon would please e-mail how to do this, I would
>: appreciate it immensely.  Also, anyone who has an opinion about my
>: proposed time-travel newsgroup can e-mail it to:
>: 
>: 	garcia@husc.harvard.edu
>
>Javier, I mailed you a long article on how to create a new newsgroup
>in February, 1993. You should've gotten it by now/then. It also
>covered the results of the 1998 time travel experiments.
>
>However, a quick perusal of "The Net" in 2003 reveals 32,813 different
>newsgroups, with no less than 23 of them devoted to time travel. You
>are a frequent poster in alt.what-year-is-this? and rec.travel.time.
>
>Alt.necromicon still exists in 2003 and is still confusing readers.
>
>
>-- 
>..........................................................................
>Timothy C. May         | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money,  
>tcmay@netcom.com       | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero
>408-688-5409           | knowledge, reputations, information markets, 
>W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA  | black markets, collapse of governments.
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!
*cough* *choke* GASP!

Mike C.


-- 
"Be what you would seem to be - or, if you'd like it put more simply - Never
 imagine yourself not to be otherwise than what it might appear to others that
 what you were or might have been was not otherwise than what you had been
 would have appeared to them to be otherwise."  -- Lewis Carrol
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: cherokee@cscns.com (Kangi Taku Wakan)
Subject: Ambiguous usage of the word "homophobe"
Organization: Community_News_Service
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:28:43 GMT

As was most graciously brought to my attention today, I used the term
"homophobe" in two contradictory ways in one of my posts of a few days
ago.

I said that a "homophobe" is someone who hates homosexuals without reason,
and tho cannot be reasoned with.  I later said that some of them CAN be
reasoned with.

Perhaps what I meant to say was that there are those people out there who
harbor a shallow dislike for gays and lesbians and who are willing to
change their viewpoints when dealt with in a rational manner.  There
people would not, then, qualify as homophobes, but are simply ignorant
because they have never met many homosexuals in their lives and have only
stereotypes to go on (such as myself in High School, I'm sorry to say).

Peace, brothers and sisters.

Kangi Taku Wakan
From: marco@sdf.lonestar.org (Steve Giammarco)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Reasoning of Homos?????
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:57:33 GMT
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas

In article <92320.212355LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> Yeah don't you wish
>
>Yeah and I KNOW you wish you were at the end of my 1 foot d__k, but da LoNg-MaN
>don't do dat gay thang.
>
>
>             --==LoNg-MaN  aka  lOnG-mAn==--

You are naive twit aintcha, bub. In my experience, anything over eight
inches either doesn't work, or, their owner doesn't know how to use it.

Long on dick. Short on brains. (I'd say personality too, but I'd 
speculate that your dick is the KEY to your personality, here...)

-- 
Steve Giammarco/5330 Peterson Lane/Dallas TX 75240
marco@sdf.lonestar.org
loveyameanit.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:16:34 EST
From: <MGH110@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: attitude

I have been wondering for sometime now why it seems that the homosexual populat
ion(a generalization) is continually irate towards the hetero pop.?

I am a hetero male and since my enlightenment(as to accept people for who they
are and not for who they love) a few years ago; I have been noticing that no ma
tter how accepting you are, homosexuals(not acquainted with) tend to group all
hetero's in the intolerant and biggot category.  Doesn't this seem familiar?  I
s it fair or right to do what is done to you to someone who isn't doing it
to you?

I have been finding out that several people that I know are homosexual, as a ma
tter of fact, the number seems to be growing weekly.  I would discuss this with
them but have not had the chance.  Also, I applogize in advance if this offends
anyone, it is not meant that way.

Please don't flame me, this is my first post.
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: robj@netcom.com (Rob Jellinghaus)
Subject: Re: Reasoning of Homos?????
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:46:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.152428.24932@samba.oit.unc.edu> Gary.Saunders@launchpad.unc.edu (Gary Saunders) writes:
>While I have zero interest in defending the idiot who began this thread, I
>have to take exception to Tim Bieling's use of the phrase "stupid het
>boys" to describe heterosexual males.
...
>Surely you cannot
>help the homosexual cause by using throwaway blanket condemnations of the
>entire heterosexual community.

Ease back there, Gary.  "Stupid het boys" describes only one community:
the community of stupid het boys, of which our idiot friend LoNgMaN is
unquestionably a member.  Are you stupid or a boy?  If not, you're not
a member of the community Tim was condemning.  And surely you agree
that stupid het boys are deserving of condemnation?

No need to be quite so hair-trigger just because someone aims a flame
in (sort of) your general direction.  Whenever someone says "But _I'm_
not like that," I wonder why they bother-if you're not like that, you
don't need to _say_ you're not like that.

-- 
Rob Jellinghaus    |  "Next time you see a lie being spread or a bad 
robj@netcom.com    |   decision being made out of sheer ignorance,
robj@xanadu.com    |   pause, and think of hypertext."
uunet!netcom!robj  |       -- K. Eric Drexler, _Engines of Creation_
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: hughes@gloin.cis.udel.edu (John Hughes)
Subject: Re: Reasoning with homophobes?? (was: Re: Reasoning of homos???
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:08:10 GMT

In article <1e9oo5INN3io@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST402341@brownvm.brown.edu (Gary Byma) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.191127.5469@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
>Gary.Saunders@launchpad.unc.edu (Gary Saunders) said:
>>
>>If he calls you a faggot, and you call him a stupid het boy, have the two
>>of you made any progress?  Are you any closer to a tolerant society in
>>which homosexuality is not frowned upon?
>
>>
>Sorry, Gary, you are flat wrong. Why must it always be the oppressed
>group that is tolerant of the ignorance and vituperative diatribes
>of the oppressors? 

Actually, I think you are wrong. It's not that oppressed groups especially
should be tolerant. It's that everyone should be tolerant. It's a sad fact that
people (gay or straight) need to hurl insults at each other to feel better 
about themselves. I would think that whenever anyone detected this behavior
in onesself, one would immediately do a little growing up.

[...]
>Clearly, while you may not be guilty of
>posting this homophobic crap yourself, you do not understand the anger
>that wells up each time you are forced to face it again.

Oh, I expect most people have felt extreme anger welling up inside them; it's
not a difficult thing to understand. It's not even particularly impressive.
Everyone feels rage and anger. The whole point to civilized living is to
sublimate some of those urges and actually *live* together. 

>>All I'm asking is that each of us be treated as individuals.
>
>You got it. But as soon as an individual shows his/her stripes,
>they get treated accordingly, which is what happened in the cited
>case.

It all really just strikes me as a waste of energy. There's a lot more good
you can do in the world than shout down silly little children who like saying
dirty, mean little things and gleefully watching the results. 

>>Gary.Saunders
>
>Gary Byma

John
From: aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Fucktooth
Date: 21 Nov 1992 04:46:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel)
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Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: jwells@netcom.com (Jason Paul Wells)
Subject: Re: Reasoning of Homos?????
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 16:21:08 GMT

prpeterson@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu writes:

>I have a very simple question...what makes homos attracted to their own sex 
>over that of the other sex?  What psychotic problem is this labeled as?

>If anybody has any comments, please email me.

>Paul4
>a gay basher

Well, I have a very simple question for you, Paul4...what makes a
supposed anti-gay hetero like yourself want to post on alt.homosexual?
You just hungry for attention? Or is there a deeper, inner reason...?

jason
a gay-rights supporter

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Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: ssturgis@netcom.com (Scott Sturgis)
Subject: Re: Thank you
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:07:50 GMT

In article <92320.214151LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> (Your worst nightmare) writes:
>Maybe you gay guys aren't so bad after all...since you free up more women for m
>e. (8- >=
>
>
>                --==LonG-Man  aka  lONg-mAN==--


Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell (KD4CQY))
Subject: Re: PSU
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:07:36 GMT

In article <92326.212453MGH110@psuvm.psu.edu> <MGH110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Why bash an entire University for the ignorance of one or group of people?

Basicaly, on USENET, the 'group of people who are idiots' is overwhelmingly
well represented by PSU.

Go figure...
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov (Hippie Jim - Metal Fag)
Subject: re: Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:27:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.160006.4494@spcvxb.spc.edu>:

>I have nothing against homosexuals because I have a couple of
>friends who are and a couple of family members

That's a very quaint disclaimer....  I have nothing against
heterosexuals.  I even have one or two as friends! :)

>but I just have a couple of questions:  
>Do you think you were born this way 

Yes!  Well, actually just before I popped outta my mom, god 
came down and told me that I had a really wierd choice.  I 
could either choose to be a) black, b) grow up to be an unwed
teenage mother, or c) be gay.  I figured that since my parents
were white, the first would really be obnoxious, and I really
didn't want to be a girl....

>and if so did you have hetero-relations before you decided to
>act on your feelings?  

Unfortunately, once.  I was 15.  I went down on her, and threw
up because I couldn't stand the smell.

>Can you be homosexual without actually indulging in the sex?

Yes, just the same way you can be heterosexual without 
indulging in sex.  You just have to be attracted physically
to members of your own sex.  If you choose not to carry out
your feelings, that's your business.  In fact, there's a lot
of older men and women who are "leading heterosexual" lives
because they didn't have the aftereffects of stonewall to 
make it easier for themselves.

>What are you going to tell God when you stand before him?

Which one?  I think I stood before Apollo Sat. night! 
(then I bent over for him! :)

>I'm not preaching but I do beleive that there is going to come
>a time when you are going to have to stand before God and 
>explain your actions and he's going to cast you right into 
>hell.  

Yes you are preaching.  Why would your god (please not the 
small 'g') cast me into hell?  For loving someone?  For
careing about another and being faithful to him?  For being
myself and doing what is natural for me?  Am I doing something
that wrong?  Isn't your god the compassionate, forgiving,
kind god?  Would he/she/it really think about doing something
like that for loving someone?

Oh, well.  I guess that just about everybody will be in hell
then!  PARTY TIME!!!!

Please, don't foist your religious beliefs off on me.  I don't
need them.  Also, rather than tell us how sinful we are, and
how we are going to be cast into hell, why don't you practice
some of what you preach and maybe pray that your god isn't as
stupid and closed minded as some of his minions, and ask him
to be understanding of 'us' because we love in a way different
from you.  Beseech him to judge us on our merits, not on who
we hold at night.  Also remind him that if he hadn't wanted 
us to love that way, we wouldn't have been created.  (Darwin,
please forgive me....)

>God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve!  

Oh gawd!!  You are sooooo funnny!!!  That is just sooooooo
original!  Another budding poet laureate!

Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: Reasoning with homophobes??
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:31:02 GMT

In <1992Nov21.225442.22416@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ted9e@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Thomas Edward Doyle) writes:

>Well, we excuse doorknobs:-) But we strive to put psycho killers
>behind bars.  What should we do with the homophobes... and regular old
>racists, for that matter?  There's been numerous debates on whether the
>oppressed should just lie down and take it of stand up and fight.  I
>haven't heard anyone, though, advocate just putting these hating
>bastards behind bars and keeping them there for the rest of their
>biological lives.  clearly they're not fit to live in free society
>with the rest of us.  Anyone agree? 

Flame bait argument. You convince society to change by convincing people 
that it is in their best interest to not discriminate. Your argument that
they are not fit to live in free society has no validity. One's ability
to live in society is not related to being a nice person or being able to
get along with everyone.

The two initiatives in Oregon and Colorado illustrate this point. Many peo-
ple do not want to actively attack homosexuals, as the failure of the Oregon
initiative shows. However, they do not want to give homosexuals the status
of a protected minority. There's a bit of debate on my campus as to if there
should be a seat on the student body senate for a gay/lesbian seat. I con-
sider such a proposal ludicrous.

My point. Don't lie down and take it. However, consider the effecdts of your
actions (and words).

>Don't be so gracious!  Let the flames be posted here, in public, where
>they will speak for themselves and let us all see where the cowards
>live.

Willingness to flame has little to do with cowardice. As ourposts suggest.

Paul

Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov (Jim Wylde - Metal Fag)
Subject: Re: Thank you
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:27:52 GMT

>Lisa writes:
>
>>Well, then maybe you assholes aren't that bad since you
>>free up more women for me.

>If you are refferring to "assholes" as the gay guys 
>then your post made sense, but if you were reffering to moi,
>then It made no FUCKING sense.

Pardon moi, but I do distinctly beleive madame was most 
definately referring to you...  I hope someone will correct
me if I am wrong, but, what she was referring to was the
plain and simple fact that an ignorant, boorish pig like
yourself would, in fact, be reason #9,863 for a woman to 
never even want contact with a het. male, let alone have
sex with one, and this would, in fact, increase her chances
of getting laid to something infinately greater than yours.

If you would have realized that the person making the post 
prior to yours was, in fact, a FEMALE (ie. a lesbian), you
might have prevented your other foot from entering your mouth.

Jim Wylde (Heavy Metal Homo)

		Kiss me
			Kick me

				Fuck me!

Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: sean_murphy@quixote.wpd.sgi.com (Sean Murphy)
Subject: Re: NAMBLA
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 05:03:21 GMT

In <scattvo@twilight.wpd.sgi.com> sean_murphy@quixote.wpd.sgi.com (Sean Murphy) writes:

>Where can I find information on NAMBLA?

I no longer need this information for my report. Thank you for your assistance.
From: Gary.Saunders@launchpad.unc.edu (Gary Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Thank you
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:02:32 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

Jim Wylde uses the phrase:
> reason #9,863 for a woman to never even want contact with a het. male.


To which I reply:
I apologize for making two similar posts on the same day, but what is the
deal with all the het.male bashing going on here?  I realize there is
considerable bitterness among the male homosexual population (as well
there should be), but is it necessary to denigrate all heterosexual males
as a response?

At the risk of starting a pointless flamewar, I will suggest that if the
phrase above were insulting to a homosexual male rather than a
heterosexual male, there would be rampant, justified cries of "HOMOPHOBE!"
Dare I suggest that I am beginning to detect "heterophobia" here?

Gary.Saunders
@bbs.oit.unc.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Thank you
From: jkusters@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chrome Jester)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:55:30 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

<LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> divulges:
->Lisa writes:
->
->>Well, then maybe you assholes aren't that bad since you free up more women
->>for me.
->
->If you are refferring to "assholes" as the gay guys then your post made sense,
->but if you were reffering to moi, then It made no FUCKING sense.  Read your pos
->t again.
->
->
->                         ==---da Long-Man--------------->

You, sir, are a fucking riot...  I think Lisa was referring to the fact that
the thought that a woman would find such a sophomoronic person like yourself
to be intellectually or emotionally mature enough to be in the least bit
attractive to be as ludicrous as not to even be remotely possible.
Therefore "freeing up" more women for her to date and/or form a romantic
relationship with.

Get a clue.

Idjit.  (tm)

JOhn.

PS learn how to use your editor, "Long-Man", you'll look a lot less like a
fool.  Not that it'd help all that much...

-- 
/-John A Kusters, jr.--------------------------------------------------- ______
| jkusters@ares.calpoly.edu   b0- f- w g- s-- r p++                      \    /
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But we can shed a little light, Be Political not Polite! -Romanovsky & Phillips
From: MGH110@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: PSU
Date: 22 Nov 92 02:24:53 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Why bash an entire University for the ignorance of one or group of people?
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual