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From: gerth@watson.ibm.com (John Gerth)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Hanging X11R4 server under AIX3.2.1
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:53:44 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:02:05 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug20.040205.33341@watson.ibm.com>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.windows.x

By doing i/o to a new hft (the cat to /dev/hft/1), you cause the kernel
to ask the current (i.e. hung X server) to give up control - I think
the mechanism is a signal (perhaps SIGRETRACT).  If this signal is
not responded to within a specified interval (perhaps 30-60 secs), then
the display is summarily grabbed and handed to the new hft. 

Of course, the real question is why the X server got hung in the
first place.

-- 
John Gerth	 gerth@watson.ibm.com		(914) 784-7639
From: kitchel@moose.cs.indiana.edu (Sid Kitchel)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Windows on Non-UNIX systems
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:55:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

Date: 18 Aug 92 15:31:48 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug18.103158.19001@news.cs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

george@osc.COM (George Baggott) writes:

>There are now a number of products which implement an X server for PCs
>and Macs.  They allow you to run an X windows application on a UNIX
>machine and display it on a PC or Mac.  Does anyone know of a product
>which allows you to develop a PC or Mac based X *client*?  Such a
>product would allow you to develop a PC or Mac based X windows application
>which could be displayed on a UNIX machine, PC, or Mac running an
>X server.

	For the MS/DOS world, there is DesqView X. It allows you to
purchase a powerful IBM PC or clone, say a 33Mhz 80486 and run
applications. These can be DISPLAYed on Unix workstations. The company
I work for, Data Parallel Systems, Inc., is planning on doing this.
While most of us have DECstations, some marketing and administrative
people are stuck with MS/DOS machines. Using DesqView X may allow us
to unify our document preparation on WordPerfect or MS Word. This
means rejecting DECwrite and TeX, since they could not unify all
users.
	I'd be interested in information about a Mac system comparable
to DesqView X.
							--Sid
-- 
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Data Parallel Systems, Inc.  ============||  DPSI  ||===============
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Bloomington, Indiana,  47408  USA		FAX:  (812) 334-8121
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: strange xterm error message
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:13:31 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: /etc/organization

Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:50:39 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug22.175039.16933@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.aix


In article <BtCxxI.4Fp@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> phil@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil
Howard) writes:
>
> I get the following error message INTERMITTENTLY when I execute xterm
> under AIX.  I have never seen it on other systems.
>
> xterm: Error 23, errno 22: Invalid argument

This is due to a bug in the AIX 3.1 kernel which causes it not to
properly deallocate PTYs when they are closed.  The net effect is that
the PTY is left with the wrong line discipline the next time something
tries to use it.  `xterm' spews this unhelpful error message; `login'
just hangs; etc.

The solution is to get AIX 3.2, or patch xterm to change the line
discipline to `posix' itself.

-- 
 \   Charles Hannum, mycroft@ai.mit.edu
 /\  White heterosexual atheist male (WHAM) pride!
From: jim@tiamat.fsc.com ( IT Manager)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Logging out from X-Terminals
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:31:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Ahlstrom Filtration - Chattanooga,TN

Date: 20 Aug 92 15:12:00 GMT
Message-Id: <3768@tiamat.fsc.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.windows.x,comp.sys.apollo

In article <Bsu9Ao.3Jt@waterloo.hp.com>, hart@waterloo.hp.com (Tony Hart) writes:
> 
> The version of HP VUE which is included with HP-UX is for a SINGLE workstation
> user. Additional users (e.g. X terminals) need a per-seat license. A free 
> license certificate is shipped with each HP 700/RX X terminal; users of VUE
> on non-HP terminals (e.g. NCD, Tektronix) are legally obligated to purchase
> a right-to-use license.

What about HP VUE on 8XX machines?  The majority of 8XX machines have no
graphics hardware, so restricting its use to the 'local' display doesn't
make much sense.

On 8XX machines, you recieve a license for N users, which corresponds roughly
to the number of users who can display character based I/O on a terminal
at any one time.  Is the VUE licensing different in this case?  Or, since
Xterminals are the only way to due graphics off an 8XX, does the 8XX VUE
have the same capcbilites (or restrictions, as the case may be)?



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From: ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu (Lisa Dawes)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: gcc 2.2 and R5
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:04:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9208191423.AA27075@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 9:23:46 CDT
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From: boyd@sce.carleton.ca (Joanne Boyd)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: HELP: window GUI in an embedded system?
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:38:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Carleton University

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:54:13 GMT
Message-Id: <boyd.713800453@terminus.sce.carleton.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

A friend has been asked to invesigate the cost of developing a
window-based GUI for an embedded system.  Does anyone know if there is
any way of using some of the X code (or some other existing
development software for windowing systems) to avoid the task of
developing an equivalent sort of widget set before even starting with
the application software. (Please excuse the terminology if its wrong:
I'm a complete novice when it comes to graphics and window software) 

If there is, what would one need?  Note, there are fairly strict
timing constraints on the proposed system.

Sould I have posted to another group?

Thanks in advance.

J.L. Boyd

Please send replies to boyd@sce.carleton.ca
From: gms@hpcvxrc.cv.hp.com (George Sachs)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Source code for HP R5 X server available
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:53:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:41:05 -0400
Message-Id: <9208132041.AA05346@expo.lcs.mit.edu>

Hewlett-Packard is pleased to make available a release of device-
dependent graphics and input device code to allow the X11 R5 sample
server implementation to be built for the following HP 9000 Series 700
workstation platforms:

   Model 705 (1280x1024 grayscale graphics)
   Model 710L (1024x768 color graphics)
   Model 710C (1280x1024 color graphics)
   Model 710G (1280x1024 grayscale graphics)
   Model 720, 730, or 750 with:
      A1659A CRX 1280x1024 color graphics
      A1924A GRX 1280x1024 grayscale graphics
      A2269A Dual CRX 1280x1024 color graphics (two displays)

The code is being released in source and object forms for building and/or
execution on the above platforms when running either the HP-UX 8.05 or 8.07 
operating system.  

This software is intended for demonstration, experimentation, or research
purposes only.  It is not Hewlett-Packard product code and carries with it
no guarantee of functionality, performance, maintenance, or support.

This software is provided without any express or implied warranty with 
regard to merchantability or fitness.  In no event shall Hewlett-Packard 
be liable for any special, indirect, or consequential damages, or any 
damages whatsoever, resulting from loss of use, data, or profits, whether 
in an action of contract, negligence or other tortious action, arising out
of, or in connection with, the use or performance of this software.

The softare may be obtained by anonymous ftp from export.lcs.mit.edu.  The
files reside in the directory ~ftp/contrib/R5.HP.SRV.  Please note that
only HP-specific device dependent files and other files with HP-specific
changes are included.  You will need the X11 R5 sample implementation in
order to build an X server.  The sample implementation is available from
the X Consortium and the HP InterWorks Users Group.

Refer to the README file included with the release for more information.

This software will also be made available through the HP InterWorks Users
Group.
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Windows on Non-UNIX systems
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:26:24 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA

Date: 18 Aug 92 20:55:59 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug18.205559.10940@qdeck.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <5700@osc.COM> george@osc.com writes:
>
>There are now a number of products which implement an X server for PCs
>and Macs.  They allow you to run an X windows application on a UNIX
>machine and display it on a PC or Mac.  Does anyone know of a product
>which allows you to develop a PC or Mac based X *client*?  Such a
>product would allow you to develop a PC or Mac based X windows application
>which could be displayed on a UNIX machine, PC, or Mac running an
>X server.
>
>Any info would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
>George
>george@osc.com

DESQview/X is the ONLY solution that will allow you to run an X client
under DOS.  Give us a call at (800) 354-3222 and we'll be happy to
send you more info.

Gary Rich	<support@qdeck.com>
From: curts@tmpcu.mdc.com (Curt Schroeder)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Communication between Motif apps using properties
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:45:07 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 09:42:10 -0500
Message-Id: <9208141442.AA06015@tmpcu.mdc.com>


> I am writing a user interface that part of its job is to display
> error messages received from other applications running on the same
> machine.  The other apps communicating the messages to the user
> interface using properties/atoms.  My problem is that all apps have
> to share a widget because properties are associated with widgets.

Bzzt...a property can be hung on _any_ X window.  The root window makes a nice
place to hang a multi-client communications property.  Or you can go to a little
more work and have the clients search for the named interface window (you do
name your windows, right?) and have the communications property hanging on the
user interface window.

Hope this helps,

Curt

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From: will@medfem.jhuapl.edu (William J. Geckle)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: No title in original
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:08:08 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 10:45:23 EDT
Message-Id: <9208141445.AA10127@medfem.jhuapl.edu.jhuapl.edu>
Apparently-To: <xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu>
From: markkj@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Mark Johnston)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Extracting data from pixmaps...
Date: 18 Aug 92 07:35:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

Date: 18 Aug 92 03:26:23 GMT
Message-Id: <markkj.714108383@munagin>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


	Hi, I was wondering if anyone could give me some more information on
extracting the data stored in pixmaps after they are created?  What i am doing
is creating a pixmap with a pointer to some memory allocated with calloc().
After creating the pixmap, I draw lots of lines, and some images into it.  I
tried dumping the data in the original memory out to a file, but 'od' tells
me that there is nothing but 0's in the pixmap...

    As far as I can see, there are not appropriate X calls to get the data
out of the pixmap.  Once I have the data, I want to pass it to a routine
that converts it to a gif.

	Thanks in advance.


		Mark Johnston.

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From: william@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (William Cheng)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Multi page TGIF ?
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:41:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:20:04 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.152004.16303@cs.ucla.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <66192@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0963d@prism.gatech.EDU (Deeptendu Majumder) writes:
>I have tried this in past and did not find it to be a very efficient
>and helpful way to get around the problem. I end up running 2, 3 
>copies of TGIF at the same time. Are there some legality issues involved
>in making TGIF multipage ? To me a multipage capabilty would be 
>one of the basic capabilties of any good drawing package and with all
>the other things that TGIF does I do not see the reason behind the
>reluctance of making it multipage..Unless the programming effort
>is beyond what can be put in or some copyright infringement problems.
>
>I am just putting forward my views as a 'HEAVY DUTY' user of the
>package. And I have discussed this need with you once or twice last
>year. I guess when something is good we expect more and more of 
>it..:-)

There is no legal issue in making a multipage tgif.  The main issue is
time, which all of us do not have much of (I'm trying to support text
of any size work, which I consider more important).  I can provide some
basic multipage capability (such as add, delete, next, previous, goto)
with some effort.  I'll consider adding it to the next patch (2.12-p12).
-- 
Bill Cheng // UCLA Computer Science Department // (310) 575-4507
3564-C Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, California 90024 // USA
william@CS.UCLA.EDU      ...!{uunet|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!william
From: schnepp@nodecg.ncc.telecomwa.oz.au (Tom Schnepple)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Wait cursor, Accelerator keys and MWM menus
Date: 23 Aug 92 05:27:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Network Computer Centre

Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 02:09:39 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug23.020939.22629@nodecg.ncc.telecomwa.oz.au>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Wait cursor, accelerator key and MWM menu

PROBLEM 1 - Wait Cursor:
I have written a script file to start up a series of applications when 
executed. The time taken to execute this script is lengthy (2 minutes). 
I need someway of indicating to the user that they need to wait. I thought
of turning the cursor to a hour glass. Does any know how to do this within 
a script file without having to write a program for it??

PROBLEM 2 - accelerator key
I need to have two accelerator keys to a single menu option. ie: F10 and 
shift F10. Why do I need it, you may ask?? - I have defined an accelerator
for each of my menu option, however, whenever the CAPS LOCK is ON, the
accelerator key does NOT work because the system inteprets the Key Pressed 
as Shift Key_Pressed. This is annoying for the user having to remember to
turn ON/OFF the CAPS LOCK key. 
I do NOT want to bind the two accelerator keys because our computer is 
used to run other applications as well!

PROBLEM 3 - MWM menu
I want to disable the MWM menu for my application only. Does any one know
how I could achieve this without having to disable the MWM menu for all
applications?


     _--_|\    Tom Schnepple  (schnepp@telecomwa.oz.au) 
    /      \   Perth, Western Australia
--> *_.--._/ 
          v
From: thibault@newton.emba.uvm.edu (Scott A Thibault)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Windows on Non-UNIX systems
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:03:25 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Vermont, EMBA Computer Facility

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:34:36 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug19.143436.13019@uvm.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <5700@osc.COM> george@osc.com writes:
>
>There are now a number of products which implement an X server for PCs
>and Macs.  They allow you to run an X windows application on a UNIX
>machine and display it on a PC or Mac.  Does anyone know of a product
>which allows you to develop a PC or Mac based X *client*?  Such a
>product would allow you to develop a PC or Mac based X windows application
>which could be displayed on a UNIX machine, PC, or Mac running an
>X server.
>

I don't actually have it but Desqview X can run as a server or client.  Its
sold by QuarterBack.
From: ndd@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Ned Danieley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11R5-based vt100 emulator needed
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:02:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Basic Arrhythmia Laboratory, Duke Univ. Med. Center, Durham, N.C.

Date: 12 Aug 92 13:57:51 GMT
Message-Id: <4442@news.duke.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

in order to use a local database, we have to be able to emulate
a vt100, complete with function keys. we'd like to use something
like xvttool, or tooltool, but xvttool is written for xview and
tooltool is written for sunview, and we don't run openwindows.
I have tried running a binary version of xvttool that was compiled
elsewhere, but it's not quite right under pure X11R5.

does anyone know of an R5 vt100 emulator?

(an alternative solution would be to remap the keyboard, but we'd
only want to do that for the one window that's using the database.
it seems that xmodmap remaps the server, so that's not suitable.)

-- 
Ned Danieley (ndd@sunbar.mc.duke.edu)
Basic Arrhythmia Laboratory
Box 3140, Duke University Medical Center
Durham, NC  27710   (919) 660-5111 or 660-5100
From: kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Making a window stay on top
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:53:13 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

Date: 12 Aug 92 15:42:03 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug12.154203.19566@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <11AUG199216011614@cvdv73> fisk@mayo.edu writes:
>How do I specify that a window always stay on top of the stack, even if the
>input focus changes to another window?  I am using Motif 1.1 on VMS, but will
>be porting the application to an RS/6000 running Motif 1.1 also.  This would
>be X11R4.  If you need more information to answer this question sufficiently
>please let me know!  E-mail repsonses appreciated, but postings are accepted.

*Always* stay on top is, strictly speaking, not possible.  For the most
part, you can add a translation/action or add an event handler to receive 
VisibilityNotify events when the client is partially or fully obscured,
and then XRaiseWindow(...) to unobscure the window.

This simplistic strategy fails when you move the window partially off the 
screen, leaving it "partially obscured", but not "covered", per se.  Once 
partially obscured, further activities that obscure the window a little more 
do not result in additional VisibilityNotify events being delivered to the 
client.

-- 

Kaleb Keithley                          kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov

Not authorized, in any way, shape, or form, to speak for anyone.
From: petri@digiw.fi (Petri Alhola)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Scanner driver info wanted
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:05:34 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Digiware , Helsinki Finland

Date: 17 Aug 92 09:24:20 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.092420.9398@digiw.fi>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.graphics,comp.windows.x,comp.graphics.pixutuls

Is there existing any freely avaiable image scanner driver for UNIX.
I like to have X or ppm compatible program, that can scan images
using scsi scanner. 

If there is not reasy made one, i can make one, if i get somewhere
enough documentation of scanner SCSI commannand set. 

I have all needed documentation and experience for Svr4 driver
and SCSI interface, but nothing about scanner scsi command set.
I personally have Datacopy 730GS, that contains SCSI interface
and SysV rel 4.0 3.0 from Interactive systems.

All information is usefull, even drivers made for other
unix version or non unix.

Petri Alhola
petri@digiw.fi
From: koolish@bbn.com (Richard M. Koolish)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: resizing a window?
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:05:05 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA

Date: 13 Aug 92 14:25:22 GMT
Message-Id: <l8ks6iINNm1i@news.bbn.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I'm using X11R5, twm, Sun-3/50.

I create a window using xlib.  I can draw in it just fine.
I resize it with the window manager and I can't draw in the
new space if I make it bigger.  What do I have to do to clear
and draw in the new space?
From: rfrench@xenon.stanford.edu ("Robert S. French")
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Questions about Internationalization with R5
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:15:48 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:29:17 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug20.202917.17890@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am using freshly compiled X11R5 and Motif 1.2, and need to
internationalize an existing application on a Sparc.  I have the Sun
Western Europe locale package installed (French, German, etc.) but
have encountered several problems.  For example, the names of the
locales used by the Sun package are things like "fr" and "de", while
the locales used by R5 NLS are things like "lt_LN.bit8".  And no
matter what I use, I can't get the Compose key to do anything
reasonable.  If you've had any experience with this, please send me mail.

			Rob
			rfrench@cs.stanford.edu
From: rlr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Ricky Ralston)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Help on resources
Date: 22 Aug 92 19:44:26 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Atlanta Technology Center

Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:29:12 GMT
Message-Id: <151710001@hpuerca.atl.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Will the client allow you to change its name?

xterm -name new_name
From: rwh@moose.cccs.umn.edu (RICHARD HOFFBECK)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X Server for MS-Windows
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:58:01 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Colon Cancer Control Study, University of Minnesota, Minneapolis

Date: 17 Aug 92 21:46:00 GMT
Message-Id: <17AUG199216461607@moose.cccs.umn.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.ms,comp.windows.x

In article <1w9mqsp.feng@netcom.com>, feng@netcom.com (FengHeng Wu) writes:
> I am planning to buy a X-Server that can run under MS-Windows -
> basically a product that can allow me to run X-applications in
> MS-Windows environment. So far I have come across only one such
> product - (HCL-eXceed/W by Hummingbird, Canada, which costs around
> $500). Could you suggest me some other such products, with some
> discussion on the relative merits, prices etc. ? Or a suitable
> newsgroup where I should post this ?

DEC markets eXcursion for Windows for around $325 US discounted. I'm
afraid I don't have any first hand experience.

--rick

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