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From: jmh@tko.vtt.fi (Jorg-Michael Hasemann)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Why does hydrogen peroxide bubble (can be useful)...
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:35:56 GMT
Organization: VTT Technical Research Centre of Finland, Oulu

Hei,

sorry but I am not very concerned with medicin. But what I have learned
at school about H2O2 was that it is said to cause cancer.

Does anybody have more information on this point.

As far as I remember, the cause was related to OH-radicals which come to
exist as a byproduct.

However, it is not my business, but I am using H2O2 for different
purposes, e.g. etching etc., and I like to get some information about
it.


Thanks in advance

Michael Hasemann


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From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Hair Loss suggestions
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:43:01 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <14283@pitt.UUCP> geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.183046.8636@news.larc.nasa.gov> bandwen@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (bando) writes:

>> Does anybody have any suggestions on how to prevent hair loss (baldness)?

>If you are talking about male pattern baldness, castration is the
>only preventative that really works.

Yes, but then your beard falls off :-)

The spectacle of men who are so worried about having hairy faces that
they shave their faces and so worried about not having hairy heads
that they wear wigs, spend fortunes on magic grease, etc., leaves this
bearded baldy open-mouthed with amazement. I thought men were supposed
to be the natural rulers of the known Universe? Where does all this
cringing vanity come from? Do these guys live in some kind of, ahem,
_matriarchy_?
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: bandwen@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (bando)
Subject: Hair Loss suggestions
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:30:46 GMT

 Does anybody have any suggestions on how to prevent hair loss (baldness)?
--Just curious
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Tyrosine study recommendations..
Keywords: tyrosine,cocaine abuse
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:16:29 GMT

In article <wlxjsbr.sss@netcom.com> sss@netcom.com (Small Systems Solutions) writes:
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't prescribed use in the province of
>a Medical Doctor?  And if an MD prescribes a drug, even if for a use
>other than that for which it was approved, that is legal?

Yup.  But we're discussing a study, not an individual doctor
speaking to a patient.  There are all sorts of ethical, bureaucratic
and quasi-legal guidelines which have developed around studies in
humans which are designed to minimize harm to the participants.

I don't even know if someone could be described as "breaking the law"
by carrying out a formal study without gaining FDA approval, since
strictly speaking, the FDA can't regulate an individual practitioner's
behavior.  However, the FDA would probably still insist that such a
IND application be made.  In the bureaucratic environment of a
university, hospital or private corporation, such approval would
probably be part and parcel of getting the study approved by the local
committee on ethical experimentation.

>For example, aspirin is *not* approved as a remedy or prophylactic
>for cardiovascular disease, but is prescribed for that use.

Yes it is.  Presently it's approved for use in men who have had
a first heart attack to prevent a second.  Its actual use is much
wider.  

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Why does hydrogen peroxide bubble...
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:54:35 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <3951@mercury.brunel.ac.uk> xxxxajh@brunel.ac.uk (Alan J Holmes) writes:
[...]
>
>Only a few years ago, a large number of women were using peroxide
>to bleach their hair, 'bottle blondes' they were known as.   Were
>these women doing something which would ruin their health?
>
>Regards
>
>Alan Holmes

I believe that it causes blindness if it gets in your eyes.  I guess that
could be considered a problem..

-marc
andersom@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: casfletc@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Scott Fletcher)
Subject: Re: Glycemic Reactions
Followup-To: coody@nauvax
Originator: casfletc@atlas.cs.upei.ca
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:42:03 GMT

Distribution: world
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Keywords: 

In response to Bob's inquiry of hypoglycemia vs diabetes:

If your initial doctor stated you are borderline diabetic this would imply
that your pancreas is not secreting enough insulin to compensate for the
amount of sugars circulating in your blood. If this is truly the case, then
everytime you eat something with alot of calories your sugar levels should
increase, thus explaining some of the symptoms you have been experiencing.

To be more sure of your situation I would suggest you have a Glucose
Tolerance Test. Its results could indicate if you do have an insulin
problem.

I have a tough time with the term "borderline diabetic". I've always been
told that there is no such thing. You either have diabetes or you don't.
Doctors often use the term when they can't figure out what is wrong. Its
possible that you have been hypoglycemic all along and that your initial
doctor mis-diagnosed it.

Aside from all this speculation I strongly urge you to stick with a good
diet. Doing so could avoid any more serious pancreatic problems.

Scott Fletcher
casfletc@atlas.cs.upei.ca
From: Mark.Long@p0.f24.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Long)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: SYSTEMIC MASTOCYTOSIS
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:28:15 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/24.0 - ModemLink BBS, Yukon OK

Anyone have have a child or know of a child who has contracted systemic
mastocytosis?  It is very rare and almost always ends in death.  A close
family has a child with it.  The doctors can only make guesses on treatment.
The Mayo clinic made a try but couldn't help.  The little boy has been turned
down by St. Judes and Shriner's (because of the poor outlook.)  The mother
like any mother doesn't want to give up and she has a lots of support.
What I hope to give her is a list of parents who also have "masto" children.
In case you haven't heard, this disease attacks organs by literally healing
them to death.  Histamines take over and kill the organ or gland.
It's like a direct inverse to aids.  So far, his colon has shut down and
pituitary gland has malfunctioned.  He receives 100% of nutrients from a tube
connected to his heart valve.  His food is a special pre-digested mixture.
He is 2 1/2 years old.  Any support information is appreciated.  Send replies
through here or preferably netmail.....


 
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From: mhollowa@csws16.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael Holloway)
Subject: Re: Brainless legal decisions about newborns.
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 03:36:47 GMT

The last thing I read in "Science" about immunosuppression research was a 
VERY interesting piece of active research in introducing lymphocyte precursor
cells that expressed foreign antigens into a recipient animals lymph nodes.  
The idea, as I recall, was to make a transplanted organs antigenic sites 
recognized as "self" antigens.  I suppose the same thing could be done for 
trans-species transplants.  I'll have to go down and look up the recent 
liturature on this.  Something must have happened in the last year.

In the meantime, as you say, 10 or 20 years.  I really do think though that 
people have to get up and start screaming or something.  The public just isn't
being told effectively enough.

Mike
From: bel@ssc.wa.com (Belinda Frazier)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: carpal tunnel syndrome
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:29:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Generalists are Us


Re: the night braces for those with carpal tunnel syndrome:,

Are the night braces available commercially, or must one get
a prescription and/or a special fitting?


	Belinda
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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: BELL'S PALSY
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:12:43 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <101.29EC3326@stjhmc.fidonet.org> Robert.Ashcraft@f53.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Ashcraft) writes:
>I have had Bell's Palsy for about a year now.  I was wondering if it would be 
>possible to get a doctor's note regarding that Bell's Palsy 
>made it just about impoosible to get school work done, and therefore
>causing me to fail a class that I took a year ago.  
>
You'll have to ask your doctor.  In my experience, doctors will
give notes for just about anything.  I think it is really silly
that schools, employers, and others ask for doctor's notes.  Doctors
are not policemen for society, and I for one resent being asked
to fill that assignment.  So if a patient asks for a note, I just
give the facts and let the person who reads the note draw their own
conclusions.  I don't think any doctor could reasonably determine
whether a Bell's Palsy could cause someone to fail a course.  I
would think it wouldn't under most circumstances.

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From: tom@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Tom McCain)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Varicose Veins
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:40:54 GMT
Organization: Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN

pwageman@visual.spk.wa.us (Peggy Wageman) writes:

: What are the usual treatments for varicose veins, and does the treatment
: also eliminate spider veins?  Any imput on this would be appreciated.
: Thanks,  Peggy Wageman

Sclerotherapy seems to be a fairly simple way to get rid of spider veins
and small varicose veins.  It's a simple procedure that can be done
during a office visit (at least for me it was).  Sclerotherapy is the
injection of some sort of liquid (can't think of what, been a few years)
in to the vein.  Spider veins disappear instantly, varicose veins make
take more time and more treatments.  I also had surgery to remove a
section of a large varicose vein.  Fairly simple did it as out patient
surgery.  I my case the sclerotherpy did get rid of the veins and I
think in most cases the treatment will.  I can tell you more if your
interested, just let me know.
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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Suicide prevention; what next?
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:54:45 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <44802@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>
>I have not read these books, only at most excerpts from the book
>of Dr. Szasz.  But I am not as naive as Gordon makes me out to be,
>only less willing to dictate.  The following anecdote may clarify
>the situation.  
>
>Several years ago, a late colleague came to the Faculty Affairs Committee
>of the Purdue Senate with questions about the abuse treatment program for
>faculty.  I was on that committee at that time.  He was a reformed alcoholic,
>and suggested that the university do more for faculty who abuse substances,
>(this was done), and in particular force them to have treatment.  Not a
>single member of our committee, however, was willing to force a faculty
>member whose substance abuse did not prevent his or her performance from
>meeting acceptable standards to do anything about it.
>
>Notice the strength of this statement.  Merely a degradation of performance
>would not be enough for us to be willing to take action, but only if there
>was incompetent performance would we be willing to exert other than 
>moral pressure.  That his friends and colleagues thought that his 
>alcoholism should be treated was known to him.
>
I don't see how this clarifies anything at all.  An alcoholic who
is meeting acceptable standards is a far cry from a psychotic
patient.  They have little to do with each other.  Let me give you
a real case: a professor of French begins to make accusations that
other scholars are stealing her work and publishing it.  Examination
of the cases in questions show that the charges are unfounded.  She
then begins to believe that certain faculty are out to get her and
are following her around while she drives and on occassions have
forced her off the road.  She also believes that they are putting
substances in her food to poison her and are trying to influence
her family to turn against her.  Any suggestion that she see a
psychiatrist is met with hostility, as this is part of the general
plot.  Should this woman just be allowed to continue to deteriorate
until she becomes a street person?  Or should she be made to go
to the psychiatrist?

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From: siproj@grayhawk.rent.com (D. R. Arthur)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Biometric Experts, Where?
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:53:46 GMT
Organization: grayhawk; Des Moines, Iowa public access unix; 515/277-6753


 Hello, 

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  and wish to send examples to researches that have the technical background
  to comment, critically on them.  The models are oriented towards 
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  a point that genetic expression can be quantitatively evaluated.

  If you, or some researcher with an open mind is interested in such
  models and have some background in understanding molecular biology
  defined with mathematics or are willing to try to understand please
  send e-mail to the address below... I am interested in sending
  this information to interested parties.  Thanks in advance to those
  with exploratative open minds...


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From: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Is baloon angioplasty safe?
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:30:11 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr06.230124.27537@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>
>Whether or not you agree with my sources, I hope you appreciate that all
>of the above took about 2 hours of my free time after work today.

Fine. Two hours reading articles in lay journals. I spent four years
in medical school, three years in residency, and ten years in practice,
and I'm not quite so comfortable with those opinions.

The fact that a procedure is sometimes done unnecessarily does not
mean that it is always done unnecessarily or that it is a bad
procedure. CABG has been shown to extend life in certain subgroups
of patients, and has controlled pain in other groups. The fact that
some lesions return after angioplasty is not an argument that the
procedure should never be done. 

If chelation therapy were known to work, you can bet your bottom
dollar that legitimate professionals in the "medical industry"
would find a way to make a profit off it. People do occassionally
make profits from therapies that work.

>Best of luck to the lady who had an urgent need for some free advice.

It is fine to have an open newsgroup. However, I think that lay people
should think twice before offering medical advice. The problem is
that the lay people on this group can say any outlandish thing they
want to. As a professional, I cannot, because any of you can
legitimately sue me if I actually offer you advice. I responded to
this lady privately, with information that I know to be true, which
did not constitute "advice." 

 -km
From: xxxxajh@brunel.ac.uk (Alan J Holmes)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: carpul tunnel synd-food for thought
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:30:39 GMT
Reply-To: xxxxajh@brunel.ac.uk.brunel.ac.uk (Alan J Holmes)
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK

In article <1992Apr3.110246.11872@phillip.edu.au> k8908259@phillip.edu.au writes:
  >In article <14156@pitt.UUCP>, geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
  >> In article <1992Apr2.150801.11868@phillip.edu.au> k8908259@phillip.edu.au writes:
  >> 
  >>>
  >>>You guys are amazing. I feel like I'm banging my head against the wall
  >>>with you people. I'm sure there are a lot of reasonable people on this 
  >>>net who are silent. And from now on I'll be posting to them directly
  >>>instead of wasting my time and energy trying to change the attitude of 
  >>>a few of you. So, From me it's so long, have a great life!
  >> 
  >> If they are silent, how do you know who they are so you can "post
  >> to them directly?"
  >> 
  >> Maybe you should do what I've been advocating for a long time
  >> and start an alternative medicine newsgroup.  I'll promise to
  >> leave you alone and not subscribe if you do.
  >
  >This is my last posting to people like you Gordon, and let me assure you that 
  >no matter what you guys say you can't possibly tempt me to waste more of 
  >my time on you. But let me give you something to think about.
  >Why don't people like you start a newsgroup called med.phenatics or better
  >still med. Jahova's Witnesses where you can really get together and have
  >some fun. Instead of calling your ignorance and blind prejudice "Science"?
  >					For the LAST TIME, Michael.
  
Sounds to me as though Michael has a real problem,  perhaps he
should consult someone about it.

I read this group often and it has always seemed to me that the
subscribers invariably produce sensible replies to peoples queries.

Regards

Alan Holmes
From: george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman)
Newsgroups: sci.med,connect.audit
Subject: Re: Question on long term use of Amitryptiline
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:16:41 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.

Dear Barry,

Long term use of amitryptyline carries no specific problems to mind

Its not addictive, there is no tolerance to the antidepressant 
effects.

The dry mouth/dry eyes/constipation/dizziness on standing type 
side-effects do disappear to a greater or lesser extent within
a few days to weeks, but this is not associated with a loss in
potency of the drug.

Any residual side effect, of course, may not actually decrease
over months to years, but things shouldn't get worse.

Yours,

Michael

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In fact, it may not be my opinion, either.

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From: cease@carina.unm.edu (Cecilia De Blasi)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Sources of Used/Antique Medical Equipment
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:55:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.2dzj!1j
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <181077@pyramid.pyramid.com> dgoodin@pyrtech.pyramid.com (Dianna Goodin) writes:
>In article <14361@pitt.UUCP> geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>>After reading some of the recent posts here, I may want to have
>>a couple of people lobotomized.  Let me know if you find them.
>>
>So Gordon, 
>    Since no one has time to talk about something of interest to you, why
>don't you post something to educate the rest of us?
>
>Dianna

Lighten up, Woman!  Some of the posts to this group *do* merit
ridicule; haven't you been reading?  I find Gordon's posts to be
quite educational as it is, and his wry humor is well appreciated.
Keep up the good work, geb!


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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Get Prescription Drugs Without Prescription - Mail Order
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:28:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Apr10.221726.9729@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>
>                           Recommended Drugs
>
>Dilantin should be given to your children in 50mg-100mg doses, twice
>per day. It takes effect within an hour. In thousands of studied cases,
>it has been shown to increase concentration, intelligence, learning
>ability, memory, and verbal performance.
>
This is quackery that is immoral, and if executed, probably criminal.  
To advocate giving children a drug that can have fatal complications when 
they don't need it!  Giving it to girls will result in a very hirsuite
and unhappy young woman at puberty.  Overdosage (the exact dose
determination often requires blood tests) can easily result in
permanent damage to a child's nervous system, especially the
cerebellum.  At the doses you recommend,
it will *decrease* cognitive abilities in a good percentage of
the children.  I think this should be considered child abuse,
if this is really happening.  Dilantin may be very useful
in epileptic children, but those who aren't epileptic should
not receive it, and no child should receive it except by prescription.
Certainly not on the recommendation of a misinformed ignoramus.
If I discovered that you, as a parent, were doing this to your
children, I would call the police.

>Hydergine has been shown in study after study to increase intelligence
>in such areas as learning, memory, and recall. It can even reverse
>brain damage. In spite of these studies, hydergine is still scorned
>by most American physicians.
>
Hydergine is complete bullshit and has no effect in study after study,
other than making money for the pharmaceutical companies.
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