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From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: eletric vests
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Date: 4 Oct 1992 16:57:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <24031@sybase.sybase.com>, thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow)
wrote:
> 
> In article <dbc-280992013903@b62003.student.cwru.edu> dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:
> >
> >You needed an electric vest for 50?  Hell, I've just closed the vents
> >in my concord by then. :-)  Seriously though, 50F means either a long
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Yo !  Dude !  if yer so tough, what're ya doin behind that sissy
> fairing to take the chill off !!
> 
Uh, what fairing?  I mean my HG Concord leather jacket.
 
> and Yo !!  man..  I have done my share of riding in snow, etc...
> I just don't like the slowdown in reaction time and muscle
> response..  

Yeah, not being able to stop or turn because of no traction kinda
sucks too. :-)

> >Man, you'd HATE Cleveland.
> 
> yeah....  you're probably right !

Trust me, I speak from experience. :-)

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From: jpl10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Never go to Accinelli's
Date: 26 Sep 92 11:56:08 GMT
Reply-To: jpl10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I repeat NEVER go to Accinelli's!!

About two years ago I was needing new donuts for my Interceptor.  After
doing some research and reading the cycle mags, I decided to go with a
set of Metzeler Comp K's.  I then called around a few shops in the Bay
Area including Road Rider and Cycle Salvage.  I then saw the Accinelli's
ad in the yellow pages.  It sounded like they might have some good prices
so I called them.  Till this day, I've never spoken to someone that rude
and obnoxious in my life.  I told him what kind of tires I was looking for
and asked what his prices were.  He then got really sarcastic and asked
me why I wanted those tires and stated that those tires aren't worth shit.
I said I've heard good things about them and again asked for his price.
He then reluctantly said he could get them and gave me a price and also
said that those tires are very slippery and nobody should be using them
for the street.  Now I don't remember the price he gave me (I was starting
to get pissed) but I believe it was higher than Road Rider.  I decided
to go ahead and keep talking with this asshole even though I wasn't going
to get the tires from him.  I asked him about mounting them and their
prices.  He started to get really anxious to get off the phone and tried
not to listen to me.  I asked him how soon he can get the tires.  He kept
trying to get off the phone and started swearing at me.  Why?  I have no
idea.  So I asked him more questions to piss him off more, since that
asshole is already pissing me off.  I said when can I come down.  Then
he said something (couldn't understand) and hung up the phone.  I then
called him up again and asked him for his price including mounting.  When
he heard my voice he got angry and was swearing between saying something
don't remember.  Then he said he was busy and hung up again.  I kept cool
despite his rudeness and calling me a fucking asshole.  Even though I was
pissed, I kept speaking calmly so as to piss him off more and it worked.

Why does anybody patronize this asshole with an IQ of 0 or less?

So believe me folks, don't go to Accinelli's.  Other cycle shops can give
you terrific service and they even throw in a smile for free!



James
From: ksm@abb-sc.abb-sc.com (Ashley Sebastian Kaos)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Renfair
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:20:10 GMT
Organization: ABB Systems Control Company, Inc.


Leigh Ann Hussey writes...
>Well, come hell or high water, *I'm* riding to the Renfaire this Sunday,
>by myself if I have to.  Give me a call at 510-849-1970 if you're
>interested in coming with.
> 
>	- Leigh Ann
> 
	Would that I could join you on that road, but I *work* at the faire 
and I gotta be there Sat. morning. Also, my '78 CB400 Hawk I doesn't hold all 
the stuff I need to bring (tent, mountian bike, food, sleeping bag....).
	I've been DYING to ride out to faire, so maybe it's time to buy a new 
bike. Any one have any reccomendations for a good street type (not a 
crotch-rocket), with classic lines, that will convert nicely to touring the 
US of A next spring? Looking at maybe a Shaddow or old Gold Wing. Don't want 
a winnebego-on-2-wheels though....

			- Ashley
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: c150-bt@po.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij)
Subject: Re: Do you want more MC parking? We got it last year, why not now?
Keywords: How to get it!
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:56:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.032447.19986@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi) writes:

>Also those 
>bunchers of motorcylces that take up an entire spot, that is illegal too,
>but they are letting us go on that, ONLY on the southside.

Strange.. I headed down to the meter enforcement administrative office
three weeks ago and specifically asked about this, and the woman I
spoke with said it was legal as long as the meter was fed.

>How do you contest tickets anyway?   I never bothered before since I haven't
>gotten too many tickets, and I figure my time is worth more than 16 dollars.

I like to think of it this way: if somebody paid you $16 to show up in court
for an hour, would you do it?

Actually, it's really boring, especially because alphabetically my name
comes last and I get to listen to everybody else's excuses before mine.
(source of inspiration, though... there have been some whoppers told!)

The real reason I contest tickets is that I have an overdeveloped sense
of justice (at least when it comes to me :-) ) and an underdeveloped
income.

>
>---Masayuki Karahashi
>c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
>"I think its time to change major"

  a-MEN.


Fellow netters, do EE's actually enjoy life and make any money?
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From: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: correction...again...
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:23:07 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Originator: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu


one more correction on the previous posting.  I meant to say that I forgot
to include the smile, not remember to include the smile...

anymore mistakes?  lemme see.........I don't think so..

---Masayuki Karahashi
you know the rest
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: Do you want more MC parking? We got it last year, why not now?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 01:19:48 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Keywords: How to get it!

In article <1a7vk6INNmac@agate.berkeley.edu> ausman@ocf.berkeley.edu (James 
Ausman) writes:
>
>Heah, I got an idea.  When a bounch of us all take up one parking space, 
>let's all agree to feed the meter together.  This sort of happens informally, 
>but the more we do this, the better it will be for all of us!

I've heard that that's also illegal (robs the city of its rightful income,
even though there aren't any other empty spaces with meters for you to
feed).  That might be a local thing, though - I couldn't find it in the
vehicle code. 

Everyone could go, individually, to court and say "Hey, I was parked
legally - everyone *else* was illegal."

-- 

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Jack Hamilton   jfh@netcom.com   P. O. Box 281107   SF, CA   94128-1107
From: c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: selling YSR's
Date: 1 Oct 92 06:41:34 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley

>Yo Thorick... I sold my YSR some time after that posting.. to an adult..
>
>        for 1100 dollars too...
>
>---Masayuki Karahashi
>c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
>"Project 3 isn't hard, so I think I'lls tay with CS"

I posted this a while ago and remembered to include this:

(^_^)

...I wasn't cussing at you or anything...simple joke...
(yes, "a stroy with a humurous climax" ---Spock)

---Masayuki Karahashi
c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
"Project 3 is not that hard, so I think I'll stay with CS"
From: danac@morc.asd.sgi.com (Dana Crom)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Enough of this DOD stuff
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:36:10 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: morc.asd.sgi.com

In article <1992Sep28.181828.15603@leland.Stanford.EDU> 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss) writes:
>
>  One of the things I really liked about ba.mc was that it maintained a high
>signal-to-noise ratio, a property notable for its absence in rec.mc.  Now
>we've had the first invasion of "I've got a DOD number and you don't 
>hahahahahaha" and followup messages.  I'd like to plead with my fellow
>posters to keep that sort of stuff over in rec. where everyone likes
>to play those games.  This ba.mc board is a great place to exchange information
>which is relevant to us locals; let's keep it that way, and not let it 
>degenerate into another flame forum with a smaller distribution.
>
>  Thank you for your attention.

Agreed! One more thing - most of us who have DoD numbers would probably be
happy to give proper directions if asked nicely in email.  The DoD is about
as exclusive and hard to get into as a rainstorm.

And I'd much rather have input about good roads, dealers, events, classes,
etc. than another flamewar.

Ob Input:  If you are going south from San Jose to Gilroy or beyond, the old
Monterey Highway is MUCH nice than 101.  Not twisty, but prettier, more to
see, goes right through downtown Morgan Hill and Gilroy - doesn't take much
longer, either. 101 is straight, bumpy, raingrooved, and ugly till you get
down past Gilroy a ways.  Get onto Monterey Highway in southern San Jose
at Blossom Hill Road or Bernal Road - it rejoins 101 just south of Gilroy.

-- 
-----------------------+------------------------+------------------------------
Dana Crom    DoD #0679 | Silicon Graphics, Inc. |  Smile - let them *WONDER* 
danac@morc.asd.sgi.com | (415) 390-1449         |  what you've been up to . . .
Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:489 rec.motorcycles:35044
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: RSS helps save Curtis's butt (and other tender bodily parts)
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:25:24 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

Since today is my birthday, I decided to take a birthday ride at lunch.
Except for the boring commute in to work today, I hadn't ridden my
Maxim since I finished the RSS course on Sunday, and wanted to have
some fun trying out the new techniques on my bike instead of on those
125cc Hondas used in the class.

For those familiar with the Bay Area, I left Mountain View, went up
101 to 92, then took 92 to Skyline. After a few miles on Skyline a
4WD truck pulled onto the road ahead of me (safely ahead, no horror
story here), and proceeded to haul ass (for a truck, that is). I was
out for a cruise and felt no compunction to pass him. Besides, there
had been the usual raft of road construction signs with no construction
crews, but this way I could let him front for me and let *him* run up
on the road crew, if any.

I kept a nice distance back, and eventually he disappeared around a
blind left-hand curve. I watched him as he disappeared -- no brake
lights. Must be a fairly easy curve and nothing nasty on the other
side. I picked an entry speed, looked, leaned, and rolled the
throttle on into the curve just like the book sez. As I neared the
middle of the curve I saw that it was downhill on the far side; still
no big deal. But in the next instant I see the 4WD stopped diagonally
in the lane at the end of his skid marks, right in front of a terrified
road crew worker with a STOP sign.

Before RSS, I probably would have immediately braked while leaned over,
probably dropped the bike or at least gone right off the curve towards
the woods and flipped in the shoulder. At the very best I would have
successfully slowed while leaned and *then* dropped the bike.

As it was, without even thinking about it I flipped the bike upright,
stopped on the considerable downhill very quickly and under control,
and had gone completely down through the gears to first before I gently
put my left foot down -- at least 20 feet behind the truck. In the
process of stopping I locked the rear brake in the last few feet, and
easily remembered to crunch the brake even harder to keep it locked.
I didn't grab the front brake; I made a smooth, rapid stop.

This would not even have been *remotely* possible before I took the RSS
course. What a great birthday present -- my bike and my ass intact!

In retrospect, the only thing that bothers me is that I didn't hear
the truck skid -- that would have given me a lot more warning. I don't
know if I just wasn't paying enough attention or what, but I intend
to keep my ears trained a bit better in the future.
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
USPA #A-10080 (lapsed)				DoD #721  '81 Maxim 650
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: karen@angelo.amd.com (Karen Black)
Subject: Watch for 3ADA259
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Santa Clara, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:53:53 GMT

Motorcyclists in the south bay:  watch for a blue or brown midsize
sedan, 3ADA259.  He was behind me at the Shoreline ramp to 101S,
then passed me and pulled in ahead.  I then got a face(shield) full
of water.  I passed him and took the 237 exit.  He came back and
passed me again, pulled in front, and again I got spattered.  He then
took the northbound Lawrence Expwy exit.

Once might be an honest mistake; twice ... he's either got exceptionally 
dirty windshields or a desire to be noticed.  I noticed.

Karen Black
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: 928s4@leland.Stanford.EDU (Benjamin Sloss)
Subject: Re: correction
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 16:09:34 GMT

c60c-3gi@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Masayuki Karahashi) writes:
>I just know Im gonna keep making stupid mistakes like this, but please
>bear with it.  After all, who ever said CS majors can type?  (ok, don't
>give me a beating on this, most CS people can type, I just can't :( )

There are two types of CS people:
  1) those who can type.
  2) those who see a lot of messages of the form
      "Syntax error in line 3"

  Not to worry, though, we humans are much more forgiving of typos
than any compiler I've seen recently.

>---Masayuki Karahashi
>c60c-3gi@web.berkeley.edu
>"Project 3 is easy, so I think I'll stay with CS"

-- 
Ben Sloss        Email: ben@osc.versant.com   Work: (415) 329-7500 x172
Quote:          "It's all fun and games until someone gets paid."
Transportation: '83 CB650SC (straight roads) '93 CBR 900RR   (twisty roads)
		'91 XR 250L (dirty    roads) '87 Mustang 5.0 (wet    roads)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
From: mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones)
Subject: Re: The DoD ERC (was Re: RSS)
Organization: Caere Corp.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:39:32 GMT

howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland) writes:
>I also remember in the hard breaking, I'd stopped a bit short
>of your measurements painted on the ground. So, what is your 
>shortest marking and I'll subtract 2 feet. I didn't see that 
>recorded on the score sheet.

You're right, I should record that on the sheet.  The shortest marking
is 13 feet, and that's the standard for 15 mph.  Most people are going
about 20, and must stop within 23 feet.  You were probably several feet
shorter than required.

Mojo
-- 
Morris Jones
Caere Corp.
mojo@caere.com
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: ahuibers@leland.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Gerrit Huibers)
Subject: Need to borrow small bike (250 or 400) for license test - Palo Alto
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 02:41:59 GMT

A friend of mine left me his `75 Gold Wing when he went off to school in Chicago this 
fall.  I am now using it for basic transportation under a temp permit.  I'd like to pass
the DMV road test so I can do some cruising but I think it will be extremely difficult 
(i.e. I will have to be extremely lucky!) to do it on this bike - it's just not meant for
going under 10 mph!  If anyone has a smaller bike they could lend me to take the test I
would greatly appreciate it.  I live in Palo Alto (new grad student at Stanford).  

Thanks!  -Andy
From: alexb@sybase.com (Alex Burmester)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Shoei X-8  Who has one?
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:17:05 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

I have a RF200 and I was wondering if the wind noise is significantly
different between the two shoei's.

My particular problem is that I have a Seca II and I'm tall,  therefore the
tiny windscreen deflects a whole lot of turbulence right at my neck which
makes it sound like I'm inside a turbine engine at > 45mph.

If you send mail to alexb@sybase.com I should get it,  If you forward mail
back along the path it came I might get it.
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From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Independent Biker mag
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:50:07 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Oct5.204034.1@vax.sonoma.edu>, feinstei@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
> As to the comments made that IB is a thinly veiled cheerleader for 
> Mars Custom Cycle, I think that *all* media, from NBC right down to the
> Santa Cruz Sentinel are somewhat beholden to their advertisers; what I
> do is try to keep that fact in mind while I get what I can out of the 
> media. 

yes, you're right.  my issue is that the people handing out the rag at the bike
show claimed (as i said in my first post), that they, unlike city bike, were
not supported by the mfgs. 


-- 
--
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Renfair
Date: 30 Sep 1992 22:50:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


ksm@abb-sc.abb-sc.com (Ashley Sebastian Kaos) writes:

>	Would that I could join you on that road, but I *work* at the faire 
>and I gotta be there Sat. morning. Also, my '78 CB400 Hawk I doesn't hold all 
>the stuff I need to bring (tent, mountian bike, food, sleeping bag....).
>	I've been DYING to ride out to faire, so maybe it's time to buy a new 
>bike. Any one have any reccomendations for a good street type (not a 
>crotch-rocket), with classic lines, that will convert nicely to touring the 
>US of A next spring? Looking at maybe a Shaddow or old Gold Wing. Don't want 
>a winnebego-on-2-wheels though....

Go BMW R80.  Fairegoers should stop by twilzewop and have themselves beat off
a log with a bag...

-- 
The Wailer at the Gates of Dawn              | banshee@cats.UCSC.EDU       |
Just who ARE you calling a FROOFROO Head?    |                             |
DoD#0667  "Just a friend of the beast."      | banshee@ucscb.UCSC.EDU      |
2,3,5,7,13,17,19,31,61,89,107,127,521,607....| banshee@ucscb.BITNET        |
From: jimbo@morpheus.wustl.edu (Jim Bowlin)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Helmet Rehab???
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:16:58 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: morpheus.wustl.edu
Keywords: Helmet

I have an old open face helmet that I would like to start using
for an occassional passenger, but need some advice. I live in a
state that requires helmet usage so I'd rather not test the local
cops ability to spot helmetless heads.  The helmet in question is 
a 12 year old Bell with an advanced case of foam decay. Is there
anyplace that can restore the helmet for a reasonable cost? I would
prefer a place that can do mail-order since I don't live near the
bay area.

Jimbo@morpheus.wustl.edu                     Ride:1972 R75/5
From: ronih@zxninja.Eng.Sun.COM (Ron Ih - Analog Engineering)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Never go to Accinelli's
Date: 28 Sep 1992 23:52:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ronih@zxninja.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: zxninja

In article b4b302n823vo01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com, jpl10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com () writes:
>I repeat NEVER go to Accinelli's!!
>
>About two years ago I was needing new donuts for my Interceptor. [...]
>so I called them.  Till this day, I've never spoken to someone that rude
>and obnoxious in my life.  I told him what kind of tires I was looking for
>and asked what his prices were.  He then got really sarcastic and asked
>me why I wanted those tires and stated that those tires aren't worth shit.

I've never bought anything from that guy, but I went there with a friend
when he needed a new front tire. The guy was pretty obnoxious and the prices
weren't all that great.

My friend wanted a Metzeler and he went on this LONG schpiel about how bad
they were and how great the Michelins were. This went on for a while and I
almost blurted out "If he wants a Metz, just shaddup and sell it to him you
pinhead!"

I can't really recommend the place since the selection is limited, the guy
is an asshole, and the prices aren't all that great.


$0.157893  worth

Ron Ih
1990 Kawasaki ZX-6
ronih@zxninja.Eng.Sun.COM

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