HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kama@semma.dco.ntc.nokia.com (Kari Marttanen)
Subject: Re: Kirjoitusohjeet
Reply-To: kama@semma.dco.ntc.nokia.com
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications OY
Distribution: sfnet
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:11:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.182927.23314@cc.tut.fi> jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia) writes:
  >>In article <KAMA.92Sep7184645@semma.dco.ntc.nokia.com>
  >>marttanen@semma.dco.ntc.nokia.com writes:
  >>
  >>	Kertoisiko tiet{v{t mit{ s{{nt|j{ pit{isi noudattaa jotta
  >>	lehteen julkaistavaksi tarkoitetusta jutusta saisi
  >>	mahdollisimman valmiin artikkelin julkaistavaksi?

 >  Riippuu lehdesta. Mihin lehteen/lehtiin ajattelit kirjoitella?

	Periaatteessa mihin vaan (vaikka voodootadspladettiin vai miten
	sen kirjoitetakaan kun en paljon ruotsia en{{n v{lit{ muistaa).

 >  Usein ammattijulkaisuissa on ohjeet miten kirjoittaa, mutta
 >  jos kyse on ns. pelilehdista (PC mikro, tietokone, jne.), niin 
 >  ainoa vaihtoehto taitaa olla yhteyden ottaminen toimitukseen
 >  ja kysella ohjeita.

	Onko sanomalehteen kirjoittaminen paljonkin erilaisempaa kuin
	johonkin aikakausilehteen? Vai johtuuko erilaisuus lehden
	toimituksessa k{ytett{v{st{ laitteistosta vai toimitusten
	erilaisista menettelytavoista?

	Haluaako toimitukset jutun paperilla ja/tai tiedostona?

	Kama
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From: kdorota@kruuna.hut.fi (Krzysztof Dorota)
Subject: FrameMaker -esittely TKK:ssa
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: sfnet
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:56:36

Pyynn|st{ postitan seuraavan ilmoituksen:

			 FrameMaker -esittely
		       TKK/P{{rakennus E -sali
		  Keskiviikkona, 30. syyskuuta 1992
			  kello 12.00-15.00

FrameMaker on helppok{ytt|inen, monipuolinen ja joustava
WYSIWYG-tekstink{sittely- ja dokumentointiohjelmisto Unix-, Mac- ja PC
Windows -ymp{rist|ihin. FrameMaker on kokonaisuus, jossa tehokkaat
tekstink{sittelytoiminnot, monipuoliset grafiikkaty|kalut, yht{l|t ja
kirjanvalmistusautomatiikka on yhdistetty t{ydelliseski
dokumentointity|v{lineeksi.

Tilaisuudessa Tapani Karainen Indexilt{ esitelm|i dokumentoinnin
kehitt{miseen liittyvist{ tekij|ist{ ja FramaMakerin mahdollisuuksista
Korkeakoulussa.

Tilaisuudessa on my|s Framen esittely. Pyrimme samalla antamaan
vinkkej{ k{yt{nn|n dokumentointiongelmiinne.

Tilaisuus alkaa tasan klo 12.00

Lis{tietoja: 	Krzysztof Dorota, TKK, puh. 4512012 (matkoilla vk. 38,39)
		Tapani Karainen, Index, puh. 461977

Tialisuuden j{rjest{v{t:
		INDEX INTERNATIONAL OY ja
		Korkeakoulujen Mikrotukikeskus

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From: jjwwjj@mixcom.com (Robotic Systems)
Subject: HELP FIND: yanoff@csd4.uwm.edu
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: milw
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:49:38 GMT
Followup-To: poster

I am trying to find "yanoff@csd4.uwm.edu"

When I send e-mail, it comes back with host unknown.

I believe this is the csd4 at UW-Milwaukee.

Yanoff is suppose to have a list of internet services.

Any Help would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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From: jspinnow@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John Stewart Pinnow)
Subject: Looking for legal Information
Originator: jspinnow@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: milw
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 20:27:19 GMT


I am looking for current legal information such as the Equal Pay Act and
sex discimination.

Could anyone point me to some GOOD sources. Both electronic  (network) and
in print.

Thank you,

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Newsgroups: milw.general
From: kgraff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Kathy A Graff)
Subject: Macintosh Users Group Meeting
Originator: kgraff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: milw
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:59:04 GMT

Announcing:

                      SEPTEMBER DOUBLE CLICK MAIN MEETING

                         Sunday, September 20, 2:00 PM
                           Bolton Hall, Room B46
                                UW-M campus

Double Click is the Macintosh Users Group of Milwaukee. If you use a 
Macintosh computer or are interested in them, please come. These 
meetings open to the general public. You don't have to be a member 
to attend.

AGENDA:

     * Demonstration of shareware and freeware available on 
       Double Click Disk # 81
     * Question and answer session
     * News and announcements
     * Reports from the Special Interest Groups (SIG's)

     * Break

     * Main Demonstration:
       
       This month's meeting is for beginners. (And experienced users 
       who want a review or to learn some new tricks!) We will be 
       showing everything beginning with how to set up your computer.
        
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Double Click activities:

DATE/TIME          GROUP                CONTACT
--------------------------------------------------------------------
September

20 (Sun) 2:00 PM   MAIN MEETING         kgraff@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
                   Specially for Beginners
                   B46 Bolton Hall, UW-M

24 (Thur) 7:00 PM  Programmers          Warren Miller 1-284-7169
                                        wleemiller@aol.com

                   MIDI-Music SIG will not meet in September
--------------------------------------------------------------------
October

 7 (Wed) 7:00 PM   Telecommunications   Jim Macak 964-3147

12 (Mon) 7:00 PM   Multi Media          Jim Wamser 774-7336

14 (Wed) 7:00 PM   Business             Randy Groh 548-0159
                                        rgroh@aol.com

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D-Mac BBS (414)962-3622, 8 data bits, (N)o Parity, 1 stop bit at
2400/1200 bps
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Membership                        Macintosh Users Group of Milwaukee
and information:                  P.O. Box 75027
                                  Milwaukee, WI 53215-7527
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From: zombie@voodoo.boeing.com (Mike York)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: Washington political candidate debates being televised on PBS
Keywords: debates
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:56:26 GMT
Reply-To: zombie@voodoo.boeing.com
Distribution: pnw
Organization: BoGART System Development

In article <1992Sep10.072451.1770@tc.fluke.COM>, moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
|> Rats.  Last night was the final debate -- the senatorial candidates have
|> already debated about a week ago.  Sorry not to get the info to you sooner.

Not to worry Jeff.  There will be two more debates after the primary.  As I 
recall, the Republican and Democratic senatorial nominees will square off on
October 27 and the guvner wannabe's will go at it on October 28.  These dates
are from a memory that is failing me all too often these days, so be sure to
check your local listings. ;^)
-- 
    Mike York                     
    Boeing Computer Services     
    (206) 865-6577              
    zombie@voodoo.boeing.com
From: bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Looking for information on gun shows
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:37:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: gibdo.1992Sep15.103430.4861
Organization: University of Washington


  Can someone please send me some information on upcoming gun shows in
  the Puget Sound Area?
  ==

  Bob (bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu)
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: How to defeat CID, ANI, and Caller Return
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:09:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1792
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix Color Printers, Wilsonville, Oregon


	"HOW TO DEFEAT CALLER ID, ANI, AND RETURN CALL SERVICES ..."

This list omits what is, for many of us, the cheapest of all: call from
a PBX connected to Direct Inward Dial trunks.  Those of us who work at
big companies have phones on our desks, but there isn't a separate
telephone wire leaving the building for each phone.  Instead, calls are
routed over a relatively few number of such wires.  Until the PBX is
upgraded, a call placed from such a phone will arrive with the number
of that trunk line.  For CID and ANI, this is useless; it could be
anybody in the company, and you likely won't show the same number on
the next call.  For return call, this is useless because a call *to*
that number goes nowhere.

[Have you ever noticed that, when you make a calling card call from
your work phone, it shows up on your phone bill with an originating
number that you don't recognize?  That's the trunk line that was used
for that call.]

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
From: mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: re: The Caller Manifesto
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:02:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: Ikkoku-K.MS-C.716353350.1103527590.mrc
Organization: University of Washington
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Mime-Version: 1.0

So, we have *volunteer* busybodies, who due to some fluke are empowered to
send State Troopers to arrest people for the horrible crime of presuming not
to want to speak to the busybodies on the telephone!

The more Kirkpatrick talks about his occupation, the scarier it becomes.  We
are seeing a prototype, or perhaps an embryo, of a future Secret Police.  All
of the elements are there.
From: critter@eisley.wa.com (Tigger)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: One Way airfare to Miami for sale
Summary: One Way airfare to Miami for sale
Keywords: ticket
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:40:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: eisley.eeqyqB1w165w
Organization: Mos Eisley Spaceport BBS

One way airfare Sea-Tac to Miami International on Continental for sale.  
$100 or best offer.  For more info call Cristina (206) 524-7551.

-
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...!nwnexus!eisley!critter
...!seanews!eisley!critter
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From: alpinist@eskimo.celestial.com (David Butler)
Subject: Re: The Caller Manifesto
Organization: =>ESKIMO NORTH (206) 367-3837 SEATTLE, WA.<=
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:49:51 GMT

In article <MS-C.716353350.1103527590.mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM> mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:

>The more Kirkpatrick talks about his occupation, the scarier it becomes.  We
>are seeing a prototype, or perhaps an embryo, of a future Secret Police.  All
>of the elements are there.

  Prototype?  embryo?  Sheesh the lack of individual rights and police powers
have been in place for years.  The powers of the IRS over your property are
real scary (and you have to prove that they made the mistake), the siezure
laws (you forfeit your property and are guilty until proven innocent), 
coerced confessions are legal, if you are pulled over for any reason cops
have an automatic search warrant for your car.  There are numerous cases
of environmentalists being held in jail without being charged.  The war on
drugs is really a war on rights and has done nothing to reduce drug usage.
  If you are not rich you already really don't have many rights in this
country.  The conservatives want to take away all our rights because if we
have freedom we would enjoy ourselves and that would be immoral.

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Newsgroups: pnw.general
From: guru@halcyon.com (Dennis Wicks)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Pres. Bush & the spooted owl & c.
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:07:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwnexus.1992Sep14.210714.11433
Distribution: pnw
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service

I just heard on the radio a speech that Pres. Bush made in
some small timber town in Wash.

From the gist of his speech he is going to change the
spotted owl from an endangered species to an extinct species
and cut down the remaining old growth forest and sell it to
Japan.  All in the name of employment for loggers.

He referred to this as "restoring balance!"

Seems to me that the end result will be further fattening
the coffers of big timber companies by selling them timber at
tax-payer subsidized prices.
 
I also wonder where all this concern for the unemployed was
several years ago when people were loosing their jobs in the
upper mid-west?  (The area more commonly known as the "rust
belt.")  No endangered species back there to use for a
scapegoat I guess.
From: mikeq@aspen.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: Pres. Bush & the spooted owl & c.
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:57:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: master.3571
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.

In article <1992Sep14.210714.11433@nwnexus.WA.COM> guru@halcyon.com (Dennis Wicks) writes:
>From the gist of his speech he is going to change the
>spotted owl from an endangered species to an extinct species
>and cut down the remaining old growth forest and sell it to
>Japan.  All in the name of employment for loggers.
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is bizarre coming from a guy who's exported 1.3 million manufacturing
jobs during his four years in office, who continues to subsidize raw
log exports to the far east, and continues to subsidize
companies if they relocate offshore (Puerto Rico is a favored tax haven).

So, why all the crocodile tears for a few thousand obsolete timber jobs. Hell,
those loggers can't read well enough to vote anyway!

Mike
From: mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: CALLER ID
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:36:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: Ikkoku-K.MS-C.715912600.1103527590.mrc
Organization: University of Washington
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
Mime-Version: 1.0

*Begin Flame*

The horror story about the call blocker does indeed suggest that something is
badly wrong, but it has nothing to do with the call blocker or Caller ID.  It
has to do with a runaway government bureaucracy gone amuck.

Note what Herr Haupt-Stuerm-Fuehrer Government Bureaucrat is saying:
>we're required to have direct contact...[we] either use a phone [or] we send
>a State Trooper to go get them or bring them to the court offices.
>*in my case*, if the call isn't answered, the person not answering
>is going to be taken from what they're doing, and brought under material
>witness warrant to the office.
>[he] was the only one who could refute the charges against the parents [and
>so a baby was taken away from its parents for a month.  "It wasn't our
>fault!"]

Do you see what is wrong with the above?

There is a presumption that a government bureaucracy is filled with kindly
people who only have the best interests of the entire citizenry in mind, and
so must be given unlimited power to trample over everyone's civil rights to
accomplish these noble goals.

There is a presumption that individual rights must be suborned to the
government bureaucracy.

There is a presumption that when charges are brought involving a child, that
in the absence of testimony -- forced if necessary -- to *refute* these
charges that the charges must be true.  The concepts of `reasonable doubt' and
`innocent until proven guilty' are merely the quaint sentiment of long-dead
men, to be resurrected from moldy tomes only when dreaming up a new way to
keep a Ted Bundy out of the electric chair.  They otherwise have no place in
the liberal (in)justice system.

There was clearly `reasonable doubt' here; H.H.S.F.G.B. doubted the charges
enough to get a warrant to drag in an unwilling individual that H.H.S.F.G.B.
believed would refute the charges.  So vat if ze Human Rights are being
violated?  Ve ist only doing Our Duty!  Seig Heil!

In H.H.S.F.G.B.'s topsy-turvy liberal (but actually Fascistic) mindset, there
are no innocent people; anyone and everyone can be deprived of their property
or rights on the basis of the wildest charges.  Yet there are no guilty people
either; a Bundy or a Kevin Coe or a David Lewis Rice is a `victim of an
oppressive society'.  There's only the `masses' and the governing elite to
rule their lives.

The day may not be long coming when a State Trooper will come get you because
you voted for the wrong political party.
From: dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman)
Subject: Re: Washington political candidate debates being televised on PBS
Keywords: debates
Organization: Tacoma Screw Products, Inc.
Distribution: pnw
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:19:18 GMT

In article <3009@voodoo.UUCP> zombie@voodoo.boeing.com writes:
>In article <1992Sep10.072451.1770@tc.fluke.COM>, moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
>|> Rats.  Last night was the final debate -- the senatorial candidates have
>|> already debated about a week ago.  Sorry not to get the info to you sooner.
>
>Not to worry Jeff.  There will be two more debates after the primary.  As I 
>recall, the Republican and Democratic senatorial nominees will square off on
>October 27 and the guvner wannabe's will go at it on October 28.  These dates
>are from a memory that is failing me all too often these days, so be sure to
>check your local listings. ;^)

Also, it should be noted that these "debates" are being simulcast on
KPLU-FM (88.5 MHz) so you don't have to be tied to the tube to catch
them.

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From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: WSP radar? (was: WSP's `cellular listening center')
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:10:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: Tomobiki.MS-C.716591443.1103527590.mrc
Organization: University of Washington
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: Bruce Burger <bruceb@microsoft.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0

Escort (formerly Cincinnati Microwave) is not just `working' on a laser
detector, they are selling them and have been for a couple of months now.  The
cost is around $95.  They'll ship overnight for a small extra fee.  I don't
have their 800 number handy just this second, but you can get it from any car
magazine or call 1-800-555-1212.

Mike Valentine, the inventor of Escort and co-founder of Cincinnati Microwave,
left the company a few years ago to form a new company.  He has a new high end
product that detects X, K, Ka, and laser.  What is unique about his product is
that it detects it in all directions.  This is as opposed to Escort and most
other radar detectors, which detect signals from the direction the unit is
pointing (forward) and rely upon reflections to alert you of signals from
other directions.  Valentine's new detector also tells you the direction the
signal is coming from.

My experience is that most police monitoring continues to be X and K band
radar, and very few of them in the Seattle area bother to be sneaky about it
(e.g. using the instant on).  Most of them leave their units on at all times,
broadcasting to everyone with a radar detector in a 5-mile radius.  The main
exception are Bainbridge Island police, who use instant on.  They also love to
follow anyone they see with a radar detector for 3-4 miles, riding on their
tail, with radar at full blast, just to be annoying.  Then again, Bainbridge
Island police don't have much to do to alleviate their boredom.
From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Coming soon to a theater near you
Date: 13 Sep 92 07:35:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: dogear.u041qB1w165w
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

Just when you thought it was safe to use the telephone...

                 It's the SUPER SECRET CHILD LAWYERS!

Yes, it's the Guardians, strange beings from another planet who've
descended upon America to fight crime, abuse, and caller-id. Yes,
the Guardians, who, disguised as Clark Kent, reporter from a large
metropolitan newspaper, clandestinely align themselves with the
phone company to annoy Mark Crispin.
From: zombie@voodoo.boeing.com (Mike York)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Re: Washington political candidate debates being televised on PBS
Keywords: debates
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:15:58 GMT
Reply-To: zombie@voodoo.boeing.com
Distribution: pnw
Organization: BoGART System Development

In article <1992Sep11.191918.3685@kopachuk.uucp>, dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman) writes:
|> Also, it should be noted that these "debates" are being simulcast on
|> KPLU-FM (88.5 MHz) so you don't have to be tied to the tube to catch
|> them.

They are also simulcast on KUOW 94.9.  I imagine most Washington public radio
and TV stations are carrying the "debates."
-- 
    Mike York                     
    Boeing Computer Services     
    (206) 865-6577              
    zombie@voodoo.boeing.com
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: pnw.general
Subject: Looking for Oregonian review of ELP concert
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:33:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.10SEP199205334533
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC

I was looking through Sunday's Oregonian in the hopes that it would
contain a review of Friday's Emerson Lake & Palmer concert in Portland,
but I didn't see anything.  Could someone let me know if the paper did
review this concert, and if so, which edition it appeared in and the
page number?  Thank you very much.

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