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From: 31babik@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin Soundtrack:  Lyrical Feel?
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:03:11 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov12.052257.28164@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
> 	BTW -- in the very beginning, the short trader who shows
> us the lamp -- was the voice Robin Williams?
> 	-- Ethan


The soundtrack doesn't say, but from listening to the soundtrack of 
Ferngully (which Robin Williams also did), I would say that I am at
least 99.99% sure it is Robin Williams.

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From: nicholl@cs.uiuc.edu (Sheldon Nicholl)
Subject: BatB "Stained Glass" Artwork?
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 05:38:45 GMT


At the very beginning and end of Beauty and the Beast, some artwork in
"stained-glass" format is shown. I'm wondering how to buy hardcopies
of this, preferably in poster form.

E-mail, please. Thanks,

--Sheldon Nicholl
nicholl@cs.uiuc.edu
From: myk@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Xmas tv that we all use to love
Date: 7 Nov 92 14:59:07 EST
Reply-To: Michael_Oltz@cornell.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Interactive Multimedia Group, Cornell University

No, "You're a Mean One, Mr. Grinch" was NOT sung by Boris Karloff!
It sure sounds like Thurl Ravenscroft again.  (Mr. "Tony the Tiger").
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: B&tB posters?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:50:05 GMT

kimp@nuge103.its.rpi.edu  writes:
> I have 5 original B&tB movie posters.  How much are they now?  Should I sell
 them now?  How about The Little Mermaid posters?  I have 3 left (I am keeping
 one).

But do you have the BatB poster published by the American Library Association
in cooperation with Disney?

Torsten at Omaha
From: buffum@sw.stratus.com (Jeff Buffum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:56:46 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <25866@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, klind@cs.arizona.edu (Konrad "Beezlebub"
Lind) writes:
> [Stuff Deleted...]
> Any other inconsistencies that people can think of or remember, please
> let me know.  I think they are interesting.  My friend and I love the
> movie (we watch and sing together), but we love finding these odd things
> also.
> 

I noticed that when Gaston was trying to get Belle to marry him, she opens the
door outward, allowing him to fall into a puddle. The very next scene is Belle
putting his boots outside the door (which is now opened inward!) and closing the
door.

Going back in time to the Little Mermaid, I noticed that when Ariel walks out of
the water at the end of the movie, for a moment her hair is dark. Is it possible
that this scene was originally intended to be when Ursa walked out of the water
and they decided to splice it back in as Ariel?

Just 2 observations!
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From: shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 16:55:01 EST
Organization: Connelly Automation Research and Services
Reply-To: shawn@cars.com
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In article <1dcq2uINNnur@bigboote.WPI.EDU> (rec.arts.disney), dfarley@wpi.WPI.EDU (Donald L Farley) writes:
> It's wrong not because I say it's wrong, it's wrong because God 
> says so.  He makes this very clear in His Word which is never 
> "out of touch with the times" but is everlasting and just as much 
> true now as it was thousands of years ago.  This knowledge that 
> pornography is wrong didn't come from me, it comes from Him and I 
> believe His truth. 
> 

Uh, which G-d would that be. Buddha? Nah, the Kama Sutra teaches us
that graven images of a man and women are one of the ways to step towards
Nirvana. (As well as many other useful facts :)

I'd go on with this exercise, ut I don't think the poster would
get anything from it. I believe this poster should specify the
G-d he/she mean, and then restrict your comments to the believers
of that G-d, not broadcast them where believers of other G-ds might
be.

Thank you for your cooperation, and now we return you to your regularly
schedule newsgroup.


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From: kimp@rpi.edu
Subject: Animation stuff (was Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:22:16 GMT

In article <17r1ptp@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu writes:
>In article <80.2B033BA7@business.fidonet.org> Michael.Benedict@f166.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Benedict) writes:
>>1. How many drawings does it take to make 1 min. of an animated cartoon?
>The Little Mermaid laserdisc contains 120,001 frames.  Since it runs
>slightly more than 83 minutes, it's about 30 frames/second.

Sorry, on The Little Mermaid laserdisc, 6 frames (per second) was the same
as the previous frame.  Therefore, it's 24 frames/second or 1,440 frames/
minute.
From: Ed.Sterrett@f157.n363.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Sterrett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney Stuff
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 01:07:18 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:363/157 - Compu-Link II, Orlando FL

Hi again!
 
 MB>  * Origin: The Rush Room - We OWN Orlando - (407) 
 
   Just noticed that you are local!  Save a stamp, give 'em a call at
560-5439, ask for the Training and Development Dept.  <g>
 

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From: dgm5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Douglas G Moody)
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Reply-To: dgm5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Douglas G Moody)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:32:30 GMT

Arrrrrrrggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!   I have tried to resist the temptation to
do this for so long, but the whole "Be Our Guest" controversy has finally
driven me insane.  It is obvious that neither side will change their opinions, 
so I have decided to act as an official net.flakcatcher.  What follows is 
ANOTHER parody of "BoG", but with lyrics which I feel come closer to the true
spirit of the Disney Company.  Don't agree with me?  I worked at a Disney 
Store, and I love the artistic efforts of the Company.  But I have a sense
of humor about it!  But feel free to flame me after you read it.  Just 
flame me directly through e-mail, not on the net.  The whole point of this is
to deflect flames from the decent folk on the net to me.  



One final warning....




If you think Disney is all about fuzzy anthropomorphic mice and pixie dust,
then stop reading.




I mean it.




Last chance.




[cue music on]
Dummmmm.....Doo doo dooo.... doo doo doo....
Madammes et Monsiers, it is with deepest pride, and greatest pleasure, 
that we welcome you to yet another one of our theme parks.  And now,
relax, let us sell you a churro, as the Disney Company happily empties...
Your wallet.

Be our guest, be our guest,
Put your paycheck to the test.
When it comes to making profits,
Michael Eisner is the best!
Dollars here, Dollars there,
Yen and Francs are everywhere!
With each film, it's not surprising,
Comes a flood of merchandising!
Dolls and toys! Belle and Beast!
And Gaston, though he's deceased!
Buy them, or your kids won't let you rest!
True, this recession's tragic,
But we'll use our magic,
To pump our guests, oui, our guests, be our guest!

To get in for one day,
Thirty Dollars you will pay.
A figure which increases as inflation has its way.
You must drink, you must eat,
or expire from the heat!
We don't worry 'bout recession,
'Cause we own every concession!
Buy a nice souvenier,
'Cause a gift shop's always near!
And they're not very discreet, that we can say!
Our gifts may all be crappy,
But the guests are happy!
Oui, our guests, be our guest, be our guest!



There.  Are you happy?  If anyone still wants to complain, I will post the rest
of it.  And it doesn't get any better.  So, unless you want to be subject to 
more bad poetic meter, kindly be quiet.  The topic has been beaten to death.

Disclaimer: The preceding was satire.  All of it. Protected by the Supreme
Court as free speech and everything.  So neener neener neener.

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From: u3516079@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Tips on EuroDisney
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:29:51 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne

I'm off to EuroDisney in a weeks time and was wondering if anyone had any
useful news or tips for a first time traveller to a Disney Park.
From: teri@sdd.hp.com (Teri Tracey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Date: 10 Nov 1992 14:40:57 -0800
Organization: Hell's Little Breakfast Nook
NNTP-Posting-Host: hp-sdd.sdd.hp.com

Well, I think it's pretty clear we don't all see eye-to-eye on this subject!
I for one have nothing more to say...for which I'm sure you are all glad. :-)

Teri
From: u3516079@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: new user
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:26:32 +1100
Organization: The University of Melbourne

been trying to get this to work for afew days.
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:07:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Nov11.063230.21174@news.columbia.edu> dgm5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Douglas G Moody) writes:
>so I have decided to act as an official net.flakcatcher.  What follows is 
>ANOTHER parody of "BoG", but with lyrics which I feel come closer to the true
>spirit of the Disney Company.  Don't agree with me?  I worked at a Disney 

[new parody went here]

I agree, I agree.  I loved it!  But I really don't think it's much
of a parody--not enough hyperbole, a little too realistic. ;-)

>There.  Are you happy?  If anyone still wants to complain, I will post the rest
>of it.  And it doesn't get any better.  So, unless you want to be subject to 
>more bad poetic meter, kindly be quiet.  The topic has been beaten to death.

Okay, take it easy!  Unless someone is madly in love with the
company itself, your parody shouldn't revolt anyone.  Could you
please post the rest of it even if no one complains?


- Robert Cook
From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney CD List
Date: 6 Nov 1992 18:32:10 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

Frank Pohlemann used to maintain an excellent list of all the Disney CDs.
Does anyone know if he is still around? (Frank, are you out there? :^))

The last copy I have of the list is over a year old, and quite out of date
now.  I would be willing to update and post this list if Frank no longer
wishes to maintain it.

Is there any interest in seeing this list posted on r.a.disney?
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Is Beauty and the Beast suitable for 4 year old?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 05:32:08 GMT

The two scariest parts from Disney movies are:
	Night on Bald Mountain (my favorite piece of Disney animation)
	The witch transformation in Snow White (I saw it when I was six, and
		this is about as psychedelic as Disney gets)

	Also, what about the Death of Bambi's mother?
	the car chase in Damatians?
	the dragon fight in Sleeping Beauty?
	
I would not be surprised if Disney screened any plot elements before animating.

Torsten at Omaha	Would love to get the psychedelic Fantasia movie poster


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From: awmin@athena.mit.edu (Art Min)
Subject: Aladdin CD Release?
Keywords: trivia
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:03:31 GMT

Do we have a date to the release of the Aladdin soundtrack?

If not, could the first lucky person to get it in the store,
please post to this newsgroup, so we can all mob the stores and
buy this CD.

Thanks!

Art 
awmin@athena.mit.edu
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From: endter@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Bill Endter RCS)
Subject: Where is Disney's Little Mermaid series?
Keywords: mermaid
Organization: Nasa Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:15:22 GMT


   I live in the San Francisco bay area and have been trying to find out when The Little Mermaid series is being shown.  It is my understanding that it is being shown on CBS.  I have yet to find a listing for it in the TV guide.  A couple of weeks ago TV GUIDE had an article which rated the series with an A+ for overall entertainment and education value for children.  Does anyone in the
bay area know when (and if) it is being shown?

   Sorry if this has been discussed before, I just started looking at this group.


		Bill
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From: evanh@sco.COM (Evan Hunt)
Subject: Which of these hotels is closer to Disneyland?
Organization: Stan's Chosen Ones
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 07:29:11 GMT


We're planning a(nother) trip to Disneyland for later in the
year, and I was wondering if anyone familiar with Anaheim geography
could tell me which of these two hotels is closer to Disneyland:
Comfort Suites at 2141 Harbor, or Crystal Suites at 1752 Clementine?
We need a place that's an easy walk, because have to go back and
forth a few times a day--my wife's allergic to most of the food
they have in the park, which forces us to cook our own meals.
We also, therefore, need a place with a kitchenette, and price
is an object, so these two places sound like our best bet...if
anyone could tell us which of the two is closer (and any other
information you may have about them) or if there are any other
places that would meet our needs better, I'd be grateful.

-- 
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moonquake, ombudsperson, shock-jock, metafiction, hypertext, wellness, slam-
dunk, nerd, media event, colorize, preowned, CD/ROM, stress test, four-by-four,
prequel, waitron, infotainment, junk bond, supersaver, sound bite, HIV, wide-
bodied, stun gun, talking head, laptop, leveraged buyout, women's studies.
From: shawn@cars.com (Shawn Connelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Be Our Guest parody
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 10:37:58 EST
Organization: Connelly Automation Research and Services
Reply-To: shawn@cars.com
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In article <92308.094240WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu> (rec.arts.disney), <WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> Does anyone else share my opinion that this type of thing does not belong here?
> I know for a fact that there are much more appropriate groups with which to
> place this sort of lyric.
> 

Sorry, I don't. Although it was totally tasteless, it was disclaimed
and, IMHO, quite humorous.

Remember, there's always the 'k' key.

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From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: Beauty and the Beast inconsistencies...
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:05:50 GMT
Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
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In article <40759@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
>
>That's a good idea, especially because of Chip, but it doesn't
>explain the 21st year concept.  The prince already looked about 21
>in his portrait.  If he didn't age, then great--he'd be 31 years old
>after the spell, but still look like 21 (not 11).  But the spell
>specified *21*.  I think this whole bit is irresolvably inconsistent.
>Disney, apparently, just had to have this in the movie, and were
>unable to resolve it themselves.  Probably only here, on rec.arts.disney,
>could we have a such a creative and involved discussion about it. :-)
>
>
	I've actually heard an explanation for that too, although
it is a bit more far-fetched. The "21st year" is the 21st year of
the enchantment. So after the prince has been trapped for 21
years, it will be permanent.

	And, "it's 10 years since we've had anybody here" means
that 10 years ago there was another visitor/intruder, and the
enchantment occurred 21 years ago.
	-- Ethan


"President Bush - a man who has said 'Change' more times than
Madonna has said 'Yes'.

	-- Jeff Greenfield, ABC News
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From: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Subject: Re: BatB Ballroom scene
Reply-To: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:40:24 GMT


In a previous article, torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) says:

>
>	Yes, it was well done, but I could tell it was computer generated, 
>which defeats the whole purpose.

How can you tell?  I want to see if I can distinguish it next time my
daughter watches the video.

Thanks

-Carl
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From: dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber)
Subject: Corporate Lounges at WDW
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:36:35 GMT

There are at least 3 corporate lounges at EPCOT (as in: Every
Person Comes Out Tired) Future World.  They are easy to see if you
know what to look for.

Question:  Has anyone here been in any of them, and if so, what are
they like inside?


Without change,                         *David Barber*
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From: e49115611@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (EHRMAN, JEFFREY ALAN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Trivia, Trivia, and more Trivia
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:16:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: violet.6NOV199213164711
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov5.165417.1@acme.claremont.edu>, greg@acme.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes...
>In article <4NOV199220022652@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>, e49115611@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (EHRMAN, JEFFREY ALAN) writes:
>> 
>> 1) What is the ENTIRE introduction to Fantasmic. Don't bother looking for
>> your CD's; it ain't there.
> 
>Damn!  I can talk along with it in the park, and I can remember parts
>now, but not the whole thing.
> 
>"Is Mickey's imagination strong enough, and bright enough..."  :-)
> 
>> 2) What is the cheapest (as in price, not quality) item you can buy at
>> Disneyland?
> 
>A pressed penny?
> 
>> 6) Name the names of the two shops and two restaurants in Bear Country
>>    (Not Critter Country).
> 
>The restaurants were Mile-Long Bar and the Hungry Bear.  One of the
>shops was the Indian Trading Post.  I don't remember the old name of
>the one next to the Bar.
> 
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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: OK, Here Is A HARDER Trivia Challenge
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:29:53 GMT

In article <QeyHy4S00WB_QjFvhD@andrew.cmu.edu> Paul Joseph Mitchell <pm3z+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>An earlier poster already answered a good portion of these, so I won't
>rehash that.  Here are my tries at the ones that haven't yet been
>answered:
>
>>6) What is the name of the mill of Tom Sawyer's Island, which sells the
>>   "best juice on the river"?
>>
>Isn't that "Harper's Mill"?
> 
>>7) What is the name of the merchant at the end of the Jungle Cruise?
>>
>At WDW, it's Trader Sam...I assume it's the same at Disneyland, too.
>  
>>10) What is the employee entrance to Disneyland called?
>    The best I've got for this one is a guess.  I know that at WDW,
>employees can enter the Underground at the Magic Kingdom thru doors
>located in the area between Main Street USA and Tomorrowland - an area
>that I believe is called M-1.  The Magic Kingdom Security offices are
>also located in this area, and there's a parking lot there, too.  Is it
>done the same way at Disneyland?
>
>    While we're on the subject of hard trivia questions, how about these:
>
>11.) Name all of Walt's "nine old men."

This is in the FAQ, which I can't call up right now since I'm logged
in remotely. 


>------------------------------------------------------------
>Paul J. Mitchell                  Carnegie Mellon University
>pm3z@andrew.cmu.edu                 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
>------------------------------------------------------------
>"I'm going to Disney World!"
>The views expressed are those of the author only.




Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu

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From: raf5s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Rob Flax)
Subject: Re: Aladdin and Prince Eric
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:13:35 GMT

ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu  writes:
> Isn't Aladdin's face modelled after Tom Cruise in an effort to appeal
> to the younger generation...with that in mind, he does resemble him a
> bit, especially in the nose.
> 
> 
> 
> Sean Squier
> (Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
  
> ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu

When I was at MGM Studios this past March, I went on the Animation tour
and saw some of the artwork for Aladdin still in progress.  Clipped
to the desks of many of the animators were photos of Keannu Reaves of
"Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventures" and "Point Break" fame.  I think
his look may have been the inspiration for Aladdin, much like the
animators referred to photos of buffalo, lions, etc. to create the Beast.

Rob Flax
raf5s@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
University of Virginia
  
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