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From: michael.hollihan%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Michael Hollihan) 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: CHICAGO
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:57:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: michael.hollihan%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Michael Hollihan) 



  A couple of friends and I will be traveling to the Chicago area at the
end of August leaving on the 28th or 29th. We wnat to see as much as
possible in 3 or 4days. We also would like to take in any computer fairs
or user group meetings if any are goin on that weekend. Any suggestions
on place to see, things to do, places to eat would help us greatly.
We will proably be staying with a friends borther in the downtown area.
I also would like to visit COMPUSA. Thanks for your help in advance...
            
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kbr@cbnews.cb.att.com (kenneth.b.reber)
Subject: Re: Wanted Recommendations on Travel Agencies
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:46:23 GMT

In article <713802160.10386.0@unix2.andrew.cmu.edu> Li-Chun Hsu <lh24+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>Hi!
>
>I'm planning a trip to Osaka, Japan sometime in November and
>returning March, April, or May.  I was wondering if anyone
>had a good deal with any travel agencies.  PGH - OSA roundtrip
>costs approx. $1200 and is a little expensive for me.
>
>Thanks very much!!
>


I use Uniglobe Travel; they try very hard to get the best air prices.
The service seems to be consistant across agencies, however I mostly
use an agancy in Columbus (614 871 7701). They go out of their way to
set up my vacations tailored to my needs.

Ken
Xref: sparky rec.travel:12167 rec.backcountry:6442
From: rob@vitsemi.com (Rob Eccles)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Day Trips in Northern California
Date: 22 Aug 92 00:20:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Vitesse Semiconductor


In article <1992Aug18.202958.23571@linus.mitre.org> mbmg@beethoven.mitre.org (Michael B. Michnikov) writes:
>I am planning an 8 day trip in Northern California in the middle of
>October.  I plan to visit Shasta NF, Lassen NP, Lake Tahoe and Reno,
>Yosemites and Kings Canyon. I will be staying in motels, and make
>backpacking day trips, up to 10 hours/day.
>
>I have never been there before, and would appreciate information on
>the highlights of the area (accessible by day trips). Am I trying to visit
>too many places? What is your advice?
>

Yes, this is much too much for eight days.  You could easily spend eight
days in either Yosemite or Lake Tahoe each, for example.  I would suggest
picking Yosemite alone or Yosemite and either Tahoe or Kings Canyon.

For detailed information on Lassen, Yosemite, and Kings Canyon, I suggest
you seek out the appropriate books from Wilderness Press in Berkeley.
IMO, these are the best sources of information for hiking/backpacking in
these parks.  This is especially true for Yosemite NP.  Jeffery Schaffer is
the author of the Yosemite book.

Reservations are essential for national (and state) parks in California.  They
are in demand, and are difficult to get.  Check out requirements for wilderness 
permits.

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Eccles         | Disclaimer: The statements made here do not 
rob@vitsemi.COM    | represent my employer or anyone else.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Subject: Re: HELP :: Trans-Siberian Railway
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:39:08 GMT

In article <9926@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> colin@cs.uq.oz.au writes:
>Can anyone help? I'm looking to travel home to the UK via the
>Trans-Siberian railway, and rather insanely am considering February as
>the travel month. Any information re. cheapest tickets, necessities,
>visas, the things to see, stop-over possibilities, scams not to be
>caught by, and any other general hints, tips, information blah blah
>blah very gratefully received. 

Our local newspaper's travel reporter just completed a trip on the 
trans-Siberian railway.  It sounded like a trip to be avoided at all costs.
Long, uncomfortable, boring, non-functional plumbing, etc.  If you 
want the whole article: San Jose (California, USA) Mercury News Sunday
August 16th - Travel Section.

Regards, Lee
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: Getting from SFO (airport) to Stanford: How?
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 00:01:06 GMT

|> I'm looking for suggestions on how to get from San Francisco Airport
|> to Stanford University on the afternoon of October 1. I have NEVER
|> been in the bay area before. I need to visit Stanford for a few hours
|> before flying out to Australia. Is there any relatively inexpensive
|> way of getting from the airport to Stanford that doesn't take a whole
|> lot of time?

Fastest is a taxi, though this will probably run you $30 or $40 each way.

Alot cheaper is renting a car.  The drive is about 30 minutes.  Allow extra
time for dealing with the car people.

Next fastest is using one of the shuttle services.  Stanford is a standard
stop for the SuperShuttle vans (phone 415-558-8500).  Cost is about $10 each
way for shared ride service.  Exclusive service is quite a bit more
exensive.

Cheapest is the bus.  SamTrans 7F bus goes from the airport to the edge of
campus.  Cost is a buck or so each way, but service is not real frequent.

There are pleanty of signs in the baggage claim area directing you to the
pick up points for the above.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
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From: western@rdg.dec.com (Jennifer Western)
Subject: Malaga Hotel Recommendations
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Reading, UK
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:17:57 GMT


  Does anyone have recommendations for hotels in the vicinity of 
  Malaga ?  We are considering staying in the village of Nerja 
  to the east of Malaga which supposedly has a more traditional
  Andalucian atmosphere than some of the more popular Costa del Sol
  resorts.
 
  Is anyone familiar with this place ? Or with the Hotel Monica which
  is located there ?

  Thanks.




  Jennifer
From: Gord_Pope@mindlink.bc.ca (Gord Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Help with hotels in Venice
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:28:04 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I agree with the advice about Padova.  In fact that is what we did in July.  We
found a reasonable hotel on the street behind the train station.  Not fancy,
but clean, very freindly and very convenient.  I forget the name of it but it
is about 100 yards on your left as you exit thru the back of the station.

However, you may get lucky in Venice.  If you have the opportunity to get there
early in the morning, it could be worth a try for a hotel or private room.
From: smezias@option.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Mexico/Xtapa
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:28:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1992Aug18.190331.21050@talon.ucs.orst.edu>
parkerg@osshe.edu (Greg Parker) writes: 

>1. Has anyone rented a car in Mexico? Best company, etc.
>Also, my insurance company says it it not recongized in Mexico,
>so I'll need to pick up insurance, when I'm down there.  Any
>suggestions.  AAA an option?

I rented from Avis.  We had a bad experience but at least we were able
to get some satisfaction from headquarters here after we got home.

>2. Mexico City-We will be spending a couple of nights there.
>What not to miss?

(1) The Anthropology Museum in Chapultepec.

(2) The Ballet Folklorico, if you can get tickets.  Front of either
balcony are the best value if you buy direct from the theater (Palacio
de Bellas Artes).  Tourist agencies buy up the orchestra seats, which
except for the front rows, are inferior anyway.

(3) Plaza Garibaldi, home of the Mariachis, is not to be missed; it is
especially lively on Saturday night.  The large market with the metal
roof is a great place for typical Mexican food and very inexpensive;
be sure to try flavored hot maize drink boiling in the huge pots.

(4) North of the city, both Tula and Teotihuacan are fascinating
relics of Precolumbian civilizations; Teotihuacan is massive.

SJM
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From: oscar@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Oscar DeMartino)
Subject: Biking in Boston?
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:35:08 GMT

I am going to be attending a conference in Burlington, MA in September.
The conference will be at the Northeastern University campus, I will be
staying in Burlington.  I am wondering if I will be able to see the
sights in Boston if I have not rented a car (how far away is it).  Is
Burlington small enough that getting around on bike is a viable idea?

This is my first visit to the Boston area so any suggestions about
food, entertainment, or other things of interest would be appreciated.

Thanks
-- 
Oscar "Fred" DeMartino - J.P.L. (818) 306-6181             J  PPP   L
4800 Oak Grove Drive, Pas, CA. 91109  MS: 525-3660         J  P  P  L
MAYBE: oscar@jpl-devvax.JPL.NASA.GOV                   J   J  PPP   L
ARPA: jpl-devvax!oscar@cit-vax   FAX: (818) 306-6912    JJJ   P     LLLLL
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: HELP! PARIS INFO NEEDED!
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:48:21 GMT

<RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET> wrote: 
->However having read the original posting I fail to see why the overall concern.
->Do European cities receive such bad 'press' in American media ?


not really.  what is true is that, you know, they speak that french
stuff in paris.  isn't it amazing?  can you imagine why they'd want
to speak anything but American English?  really.  they're rude, too,
especially if you don't speak their silly french language.  i can't
imagine what they were thinking when they started this enterprise.

anyway, so all those parisians all speak french, and they have this
reputation for having fun on a daily basis, and they drink wine with
their meals, so this is obviously a threat to an american who will
visit for six months or so ...

- - - 

seriously: most americans don't travel outside the us.  many (most?)
of those who do only travel once or twice in a lifetime ... usually to
resorts.  places like paris don't fit into this scheme, and everybody
in paris doesn't have "service to the american tourist" as their
raison d'etre (sp?), so americans are suspicious ... terrified ...
it's all much ado about nothing, but they'll never know until they try
it.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.indian
From: rajiv@hilltop.mitre.org (Rajiv Kohli)
Subject: Don't fly on Air India
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:51:01 GMT


	Enough said.

	No one should read the whole story....JFK airport

	The whole work force has "rejection", "Don't Help", "Cause
	a problem" written all over their face. Recently, my two
	kids (3yrs and 1yr) left for India with their grand mother.
	So, this old lady has two kids and 4 suitcase + pram. We
	made sure the suitcase were of the right size and not much
	weight (infact <= max).

	Airport Entrance: No help was available and none was
	provided to get the luggage in. Two AI employee (Male and
	Female) stood their talking and watching her. They don't
	allow anyone in for security reasons. Eventually, the guard
	let me in. Note the guard was a white american. As soon as
	I went in an indian guard came running after me and pulled
	me out. Note: There was no other passenger. For a 8 pm
	flight we were checking at 2pm. I walked out. But nobody
	held the lady. She was asked to put the luggage on the
	weighing machine one by one.... Note: Attendee a Male. No
	help was offered and none was available for money too.

	First while checking in choice of ticket was not honored..
	"You can't have a choice ..Whatever the computer says" BS
	"Else everyone would be asking for it". But we tried to get
	the seats next to the door so they have a little leg room.
	The agent said she couldn't do it. After a lot of request
	and begging he said, "Let me try to see if I can bypass the
	computer for you" BS again.

	The agent didn't tell us about an Airport Tax. They should
	just charge it in the ticket. But NO! That would make life
	much easier for the passengers. Who would they show that
	they are the boss.

	When my mother-in-law went to pay the $18, she was expected
	to have exact amount. All she had was a $100 bill. The cashier
	asked her to go upstairs and get the change from a Pizza
	shop. Despite the explannation that she had 2 little kids
	and that they should have change - it all fell on deaf ears.
	Later she came out and asked for the correct change from
	us. What a shame to treat somebody like this.


	Another thing: Diapers - The agents said that with each
	child (of diaper age) you can book an extra  pack of
	diapers. Got a big hassle at the airport but eventually
	they let go.

	What a croak? What a shame!

	Don't fly Air India.

	They didn't have anything dutiable but the custom has
	recently gotten very strict I hear. All baggages were
	opened. I don't know the details but I am sure that no one
	offered any help to pack
From: kevin@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Kevin Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Any good Bed & Breakfast in Toronto?
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:14:42 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.


Does anyone know of any good B&B's in Toronto?
The outlying areas would be okay also.

If anyone has any good references, I'd appreciate
it if someone would give me the scoop.

Thanks,
Kevin
kevin@picard.cs.wisc.edu
From: liw@rockyj.rockefeller.edu (Wentian Li)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: ride wanted
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:53:41 GMT
Organization: Rockefeller University



i would like to go to Boston on Aug 21, 1992 (friday)
from new york (manhattan), and come back on Aug 23
(sunday). anyone will drive over and give me a ride?
i am willing to share driving/cost.

send email to zl@venezia.rockefeller.edu 

thanks!

z.l.
From: daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dave Webb)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: PLEASE HELP!  Info on florists in New York City WANTED!!
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:12:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

Hi, I was wondering if anyone could help me out?  I need some names and phone
numbers of florists in New York City (Manhatten).  I'm dating a girl who works
in Manhatten and wanted to send her some roses for her birthday.  I've sent
them from here (Baltimore) and they were a little expensive to be sending 
all the time.  I'd like to send her flowers every once in a while besides on
her birthday.  Could someone PLEASE provide me with a list of decent florists
in the Manhatten area?  I'd also be real interested in Baloons over America or
such places like that as well.  Should it be cheaper to send flowers directly 
from New York instead of here in Baltimore?  I'll be looking to hear from you.
	
					Thanx,
						Dave
From: Thomas Levitan <tlevitan@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:28 PDT
Subject: Re: _The Prisoner_ and Portmeirion (was
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug19.215721.18884@ads.com:-386597330:cdp:1460300112:000:375
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!tlevitan    Aug 19 23:28:00 1992


Charleen
Portmeirion, the town and the Portmeirion factory are probably about a day's
drive apart.  The town is in NW Wales, near the coast.  Stoke on Trent
is not too far from Manchester, on the Trent river.  There is a Portmeirion
outlet store in Stoke, where I've purchased seconds for my mother.  The
prices are even mopre reasonable, but there are shipping charges.
Tom
From: gcopmse@state.systems.sa.gov.au
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: ---- indonesia info. ----
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:02:24 GMT
Organization: State Systems, South Australia

indonesia - wanted any info about buying land property etc in indonesia 
- foriegn ownership   - obtaining residencey  is it possibble? any info 
appreciated    mike
From: olsen@COBBER.CORD.EDU (Scott Olsen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Antarctica
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:33:58 GMT


This is a repost of an earlier try.  Apologies if you've seen this before.

Does anyone know who to contact about getting to Antarctica?  I'm not so
much interested in the American Museam of Natural History style cruise as I
am interested in just getting there, perhaps staying at a science station
if such a thing is possible.

Thanks.

Scott
olsen@cobber.cord.edu
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Info req on good but moderatly priced restorants/pubs in London
Date: 18 Aug 1992 00:10:13 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: zabriskie.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug17.231202.15740@athena.mit.edu> mshulman@emc.com (Mike Shulman) writes:

>Hello again everyone! I just posted a question on inexpensive lodging in
>London, and I forgot to ask for restaurant recommendations.

As a general rule, eat at pubs rather than restaurants in
England, including in London.

One exception however, is you should definitely go to the
Standard Indian.  It is on a street off of Queensway (can't
quite rememeber the name of the street).  Their lamb vindaloo
is the best I've had anywhere, and prices are reasonable.

Steve
From: reiter@eagle.ed.ac.uk (Ehud Reiter)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Antarctica
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:14:14 GMT
Reply-To: e.reiter@ed.ac.uk (Ehud Reiter)
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland

In article <1992Aug20.125729.6990@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> nev@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (nancy.e.ellard-vass) writes:
>The only way I think you can get to Antartica (as a tourist) is
>by boat. I know Society Expeditions offers a cruise to Antartica.

A cruise is probably the best way to really see the continent, I think there
are several operators doing trips of varying length (and cost).  Other
possibilities include:

-- flying: you can fly to the Chilean base (on an island, not the Antartic
mainland) and stay in a hotel there, you probably won't see as much as on
a cruise but this might be cheaper.

-- adventure travel: I've heard of tours that do everything from kayak down
the Antartic Penninsula to cross-country ski to the South Pole.  I'm not sure
which trips are being offered in 1992/93, I think it changes quite a bit
every year.


Whatever you do, expect to pay *lots* of money, going to Antartica as a
tourist is **not** cheap.
--
						Ehud Reiter
						(e.reiter@edinburgh.ac.uk)
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Re: Caribbean Cruise
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:34:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.001311.15737@NOC.Vitalink.COM> wlopez@vitalink.com (Walter Lopez) writes:
>
>I have not been on a cruise but I do highly recommend that you try any one of 
>the Sandals Resorts in the Carribean. I could go on forever how wonderful 
>these kind of resorts are.
>
>Any other great comments out on the net about Sandals?

>I  don't know about Sandals, but if you are looking for a relaxed, fun
>cruise which is also all-inclusive try Windjammer Cruises.  I have never
>had so much fun and I came away with many new friends as well.  Also,
>the cost cannot be beat compared with other cruise lines, and on Windjammer,
>you never need to "dress up" to go to dinner or deal with any other "stuffy"
>rules of etiquette.  Windjammer Cruises are completely relaxing. 

>Kris
--
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From: ROD BANKS <ROD0@UNB.CA>
Subject: RE: Australia - Great Barrier Reef Question
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:09:03 GMT


Ken, I would suggest that Cairns is your best stop for visits to the
GBR. You can easily fly there from Sydney. A nice alternative to flying
is to take the train (Queenslander) from Brisbane to Cairns. It is a 32
hour ride and highly enjoyable.The Australian "name" trains are
great.Other possibilities in the Cairns area is to take a trip up to
Cooktown. You can do it as a daytrip by catamarran. Another trip out of
Cairns that is well worth it is the narrow guage train trip to Kuranda
through the rainforest. In Cairns I would recommend staying at THE
TRADEWINDS. Its on the Esplanade. If you stay there ask for a water
view.  Have fun!
In article <1992Aug20.072757.25440@src.honeywell.com> hoyme@src.honeywell.com (Ken Hoyme) writes:
>My wife and I will be traveling to Australia in October.  We would like
>to spend a few days in the Great Barrier Reef area.  I am interested in
>recommendations for this area:
>
>1) Where should we fly into?  (We will be starting in Sydney)
>
>2) What are the 'must see'/'must do' things in this area?
>   (Neither of us scuba dive).  Helicopter trips??
>
>3) Are there particular islands we should consider as part of the visit?
>
>Any other suggestions -- places to eat, places to stay -- would be
>appreciated.
>
>Many thanks in advance...
>
>Ken
>
>--
>Ken Hoyme                    Honeywell Systems and Research Center
>(612)782-7354                3660 Technology Dr., Minneapolis, MN 55418
>Internet: hoyme@src.honeywell.com
>.
>.
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: One-way rentals from Miami to Washington DC
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:58:04 GMT
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <1992Aug22.220358.1@pomona.claremont.edu> jhenderson@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
>
>I'm trying to find a car rental agency that will do a one-way rental between
>Miami, Fl, and Washington, DC.
>
>Can anyone recommend anything? I called Hertz, and they want a drop-off
>charge of $900!
>
>Avis has a weekly rate of $474, including the drop-off charge, which is much
>more reasonable than Hertz.

One-way rentals will vary wildly, depending on how badly the rental agency
wants to move cars from Point A to Point B.

The rental car agencies will have much more information than Joe Random
Usenetter, so the only really effective thing you can do is to simply
call all the major agencies in the Yellow Pages.  This shouldn't take
you more than about a half-hour.  And remember:  these rates *aren't*
set in concrete; sometimes you can cut a better deal.  Once you do get
a deal you're happy about, make sure it's documented.  Budget once
tried to hike the rate an additional $100 when we got to our
destination.

Charleen
--
Picking bugs in `rn' is like running down little kids in wheelchairs
with a steamroller.  I mean, it beats hanging around and watching soap
operas, but there's no challenge in it.    -- Mark-Jason Dominus
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: scairns@is.morgan.com (Scott Cairns)
Subject: St.Thomas -> Tortola Ferry
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:27:30 GMT

Is anyone familiar with the ferry service between St. Thomas in the
US Virgin Islands with Tortola on the British side?  

I need to know some details such as schedules, running times, fares,
customs procedures, etc.

Thanks in advance.


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From: basab@muon.eng.ohio-state.edu (Basab Chatterjee)
Subject: Travel by Aeroflot
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:37:42 GMT



  Sub: flying by Aeroflot



         Can anybody share his experiences regarding travelling
 by Aeroflot . I need some feedback
 as I am planning to travel in December.

        Thanks a lot

              Basab        basab@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu