HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Guy troubles - They Can Be fixed you know...
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:39:45 GMT

In article <C0FtAB.AIG@mach1.wlu.ca> maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna) writes:
>>Being a Guy is NOT what it use to be....
>So what in the world do all these debatable points have to do with the
>problem I'm having?  Am I missing the point or something?  I'm totally lost!
>
>Smiles,
>  Dawna =)


I think you'll find that we don't know what the point is anymore. :)

-bacon
"some are born to move the world, to live their fantasies...
 most of us just dream about the things we'd like to be...
 sadder still to watch it die than never to have known it...
 for those the blind that once could see, the bell tolls for thee..."
    -N. Peart
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: kkwwkk@mixcom.com (TA Shaw)
Subject: Adventurous GRW
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 19:14:38 GMT




Lis ventures:
>I'm with you, BDC..
Ah lass, ya dunna know what ya ginna in to, does ya?

>Give me Love and Romance any day
Hows about Tuesday? (Or was that Two A Day???)

Q: If Nike made condoms, would there motto still be
   Just Do It????

And would they have a swoosh on it???

Bruhahahahahahaaaaaaaaachoooooo

BDC

-- 
  May I walk in beauty.  Make my eyes      | TA Shaw          |        oOO 
  ever behold the red and purple sunset.   | shaw@mixcom.com  |  _____ OO 
  Make my hands respect the things you have+------------------| (_/-\_)..
  made, and my ears sharp to your voice - Chief Yellow Lark   | ==(0).
From: smccoy@dw3g.ess.harris.com (Cheshire Cat)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: anti-happy people attack ARC
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:25:44 GMT
Organization: Harris Corporation Information Systems Division

In article <robg.726393184@citr.uq.oz.au>, robg@citr.uq.oz.au (Rob Geraghty) writes:
|> <IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
|> 
|> >I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS!  THIS IS INSANE!  THIS IS, IS, IS....TYPICAL!
|> >Alt.angst is whining about ARC.  Can you believe it?  Whining about
|> >the BEST, HAPPIEST, NEWSGROUP IN NETNEWS?  Unbelievable!!!
|> >They're over there complaining about how sappy, happy, and so totally
|> >romantic we are....
|> >WELL, I SAY TO THEM....I SMILE IN YOUR GENERAL DIRECTION!:) (big smile)
|> 
|> Your mother was a dancer and your father smelt of strawberries!
|> <puts thumb on nose and wiggles fingers>
|> 
|> nyah na na nyah nyah
|> 
|> Now go away or we will hug you a second time! :-)
|> 

Fetcha la choco-lat!

eh?

Fetcha la choco-lat!!

*S P R O I N G*

*SPLOOSH*

---
Cheshire Cat		   Official Back Scratcher of the RFA

	I've been up, I've been down
	Take my word, I've been around
	I ain't asking for much
		- ZZ Top
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: Love Making & Sleep
Organization: OFSA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:29:16 GMT

kkwwkk@mixcom.com (TA Shaw) wonders:

>Juile writes:
>>Actually, you are right.  I have a book that talks about that issue.  Of
>[this was part of response to the post about making love makes it
>easier to fall asleep]
>
>The article I heard about said maing love helps you fall asleep, 
>providing you were relaxed afterwards.  What about the times, when
>for whatever reason, you are not relaxed?

Then, obviously, you need to make love a few more times...

Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: Chivalry, Honor, Loss of Life, (Romance?)...
Organization: OFSA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:53:43 GMT

phantasm@iastate.edu ()  makes a closing statement:

>I will let the subject drop... But before I do, I wish to clarify my stance...

ok..

>I do not believe romance is dead today... I do not think that the spirit of
>romance will ever be extinguished... I will mourn if that does come to pass...
>I do believe the age of chivalry has passed... Not that chivalry and honor are
>gone from the world today, but that such concepts are not at the fore of the

Guess it depends on how you want to define chivalry. Originally, you
had to ride a horse to be a 'chevalier'. I define chivalry somewhat in
a romantic sense leaving out all the nasty serfdom, slave, etc etc
stuff...I hold to the ideal of chivalry and honor. Not that I am
always chivalrous or honorable but it is what I strive for. I
generally do fairly well.

- treat all with respect
- help any that need help
- your word is your bond
- courtesy is paramount
- etc, etc. (get the idea?)

>so far as to the loss of life... I am saddened by the cheapening of the human
>life by the ease with which it can be extinguished today...

Human life was always easy to extinquish, just too bad that mass
slaughter is so easy these days.

Steven
From: mcscs1jrs@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: alt.romance.chat
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:36:58 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <C0B4sn.GLz@mach1.wlu.ca>, maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna) writes:
> I've been reading this group for a while and everyone seems so nice, I'm
> hoping someone could help a bit.
> 
> OK, this is the situation.  I've been seeing this guy off and on for the
> past year and a half, and we were starting to become a lot closer.  Two
> weeks before Christmas he finally told me he cares about me!  Then all of a
> sudden he tells me that he's been talking to his ex-girlfriend and she wants
> to see him.  He said she'd be coming down over the Christmas holidays.  Why?
> Because he doesn't want to wonder for the rest of his life whether they
> could have worked things out again.  Then, when I get home for Christmas (he
> lives in my home town) he tells me he's going to visit her instead.  She
> sent him a plane ticket and he left today to visit her.  I don't know when
> he'll be back, and I'm left with a lot of unanswered questions.  What should
> I do?  I care so much for this guy, and I really don't want to lose him
> (although it seems now that I have little chance....).  Any advice for this
> heart-broken woman?  I'd appreciate it a lot.  This is not the way to start
> the New Year!
> 
> Thanks in advance. =)
> 
> Smiles (at least trying to...),
>    Dawna =)


Basically the guy can't have both girls..
He has to make up his mind and you have to know if you want to wait for him.
HE should know better than what he's doing.
He could think about your feelings as well as his own.

	claire.
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: gemr@netcom.com (Mary Epperson)
Subject: Re: Oh Puter, Its Chat Time!!!!!
Organization: We do Revenge *your* way!!  Satisfaction Guaranteed!
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:35:18 GMT

In article <LF.93Jan8181455@marooned.berkeley.edu> lf@marooned.berkeley.edu (LexicographicalFiend) writes:
>GRW mentions:
>>Absolutely!!  Hey, EVERYONE at the very first Annual Fireside
>>Chat at Steven's was dusted, some several times....
>
>And some with rather unexpected SideEffects...8-)
>
>LexicographicalFiend, Pundis Horrendis Aevi
>  Official ReallyGrossDittyWriter of ARCland and DirtyMindedApe
>  Bro to Rip, 'Chelle, HotDi, Miche and Sarek; SpiritualBro to Lis
>  Still Dusting His UnderPants

Yes, LF definitely got dusted last year!  

GRW's MagicDust has some *great* side effects...and some are very, very
long lasting!!  *EvilGrin* 

But she never heard *any* complaints, we love that stuff!!

Mary
(formerly of epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu)
From: IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: anti-happy people attack ARC
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:31:33 GMT
 <93007.102124IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET> <93007.112655IDMLH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Organization: Arizona State University

yes yes, i admit it, i'm anxious, i'm angstful, i'm depressed, but i'm
recently dumped on. it's not my fault!! i swear!!

i've had all the romance beaten out of me.....


j.
From: 9999cs02@dt3 (Tina Marie!)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Trademark..
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:31 CST
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41A   

In article <1993Jan11.151816.23317@e2big.mko.dec.com>, pel@maximo.enet.dec.com (Phillip E lujan) writes...
> 
>(Tina Marie!) writes:
>|>In article <1993Jan9.230450.21207@mtu.edu>, bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) writes...
>|>>But I don't have a TinaMarie...
>|>> 
>|>
>|>	Very true..very true....But I am available to be borrowed, if you 
>|>really need me....:)
> 
>OH, NO, YOU DON'T!!!
> 
>I'm not done with you yet, my pretty...
> 

	Uh oh....

>Seriously though, good to see you back, TM.  I've missed you...  :-)

	Thanks...it's nice to be missed...

> 
>------------------
>Sean Roberts
>Ready for another story...

	Well, go ahead and start....I'll be looking forward to it...:)

Tina Marie
Official TradeMark of ARC/RFA

"And love made death an illusion" -- Chthon, Piers Anthony

Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: Future Love
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:21:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.213244.9635@pony.Ingres.COM> jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.223926.17202@mtu.edu> bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) writes:
>		<sacrifice to the bandwidth goddess>

*the bits disappear in a puff of illogic*
*the wand of VR glows slightly*
thanks :)

>>of course I've heard grad students have no life period anyway.
>	That's not true!  We have a life.
>	(Of course, the same can be said for folks living in Montana.)

*laugh* 
well I suppose really that everyone has a "life". (Hey, didn't we discuss
this already? And I never did get a good answer from the net on the
definition...) it's just a matter of the nature of the life. :)

Hmm. I wonder if life in Montana is really that bad. Can't be too much
"worse" than in Houghton. 

>>I've always had a thing for dryads...*sigh*
>>glad to see ARC has one around. :)
>	*blushsillygrin*
>	Why, such a sweet thing to say!
>	Wanna come up and see my burlwood?  ;^)

I'd be honored, actually... :) how old is it?

>>>"ANewYearIsUponUsAndNowIHaveTheChanceOnceAgainToStartProcrastinatin'Sooner!"
>>good plan. :) better yet, you can start fresh with a whole new list of
>>things to procrastinate on!
>	You got that straight.  And such a variety to pick from, too!
>	School work, work work, net readings, school readings, etc...

well, it's all in what's important to you...net.reading is a good
way to procrastinate!

>Judi
>TOPDoftheRFA
>"YesIMetTheDeadlineItWasATossUpBetweenStallingOnYoursOrSchoolworkAndYouLost"

-bacon
who'd rather now plant trees than cut them
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: romance
Keywords: romance
Organization: OFSA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:10:13 GMT

jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter) says hopelessly:

>jturner@lonestar.utsa.edu (John M. Turner) shares: 
>>>Yeah, Silly Putty!! AHHHHhahhahhahaaaahaaa, left herself wide open for
>>>THAT one didn't she folks?!
>
>>Does this mean that you're going to be used to pick up pictures out of
>>the comics?  (At least that's what I used Silly Putty for...)

>The way my husband thinks?  Who knows. ;)


COOL!!! What a concept! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Aussie Mini-Chat Official Report PtI
From: cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Clare West)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:07:40 GMT
Organization: Dept of CompSci, U of Auckland

darren@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair) writes:
>> 
>> No - I wouldn't have minded....
>> I would have listened intently. But you don't do that - and that's OK too.
>				  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Clare doesn't do what? Listen intently? Nah, I'm sure she does.

You've gone and taken his words out of context. What he meant was that
I didn't wax lyrical about Edouard....

clare

-- 
     |                 &   Official Welcomer    &  Hello, my name is Inigo 
,--. |  --. ,--. ,--.  &      of the RFA        &  Montoya.  You killed my 
|    | ,--| |    |--'  &  BigSis to Kristiina,  &  father. Prepare to die.
`--' " `--" "    `--'  &    Eric and Chris      &    -- The Princess Bride
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon)
Subject: Re: anti-happy people attack ARC
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:58:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.040512.1627@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu> will@dekalb.dc.peachnet.edu (Beldin Feldegast) writes:
>>>I need a lover that will drive me to the Bahamas.
>>that'd be a neat trick if I ever saw one.
>Appa-rently you've never seen one of me tricks, have ye lad? 'Tis but easy,
>and part of me charm, don't ye know!

well, if you had a floating car (or a VW beetle...)

>>tired and grumpy today
>take care and later, agitator! ;^)

that I am.

-bacon
cause someone has to.
From: peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au (Clare West)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: <sigh> Guy troubles
Date: 4 Jan 93 07:06:20 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2

maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna) writes:

>I've been reading this group for a while and everyone seems so nice, I'm
>hoping someone could help a bit.

 Welcome to ARC, the happiest place on the net.......at least we try to be

>to see him.  He said she'd be coming down over the Christmas holidays.  Why?
>Because he doesn't want to wonder for the rest of his life whether they
>could have worked things out again.

This is actually good. Relationships that begin when one partner is
still wondering "what if" in connection with someone else are not
known for being great successes.

>                                 Then, when I get home for Christmas (he
>lives in my home town) he tells me he's going to visit her instead.  She
>sent him a plane ticket and he left today to visit her.  

This doesn't sound so ideal. Why the sudden change in plans? Is it more
convenient for him to go there for some reason? 

>                                                       I don't know when
>he'll be back, and I'm left with a lot of unanswered questions.  What should
>I do?  I care so much for this guy, and I really don't want to lose him
>(although it seems now that I have little chance....).  Any advice for this
>heart-broken woman?  I'd appreciate it a lot.  This is not the way to start
>the New Year!

I assume you have told him how you feel about him. There is not a lot
more you can do. Waiting is tough. Very tough. Just make sure he knows
you are waiting.

*Warm WELCOME HUGS*

clare

--
usually cwes1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz but currently peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au 
                                         or rgl@adfa.oz.au

only 4 days to go...
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: deviass@ecf.toronto.edu (Deviasse Robert)
Subject: Re: anti-happy people attack ARC
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 06:13:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan07.194901.25355@mixcom.com> kkwwkk@mixcom.com (TA Shaw) writes:
>
>Someone [and yes I do know who, but decided not to use the name]
>wrote about alt.angst people
>>can't experience the joy of ARC

I don't mind being quoted, or being wrong from time to time. We're all human,
aren't we? (Well most of us anyway :-) )

>
>For some joy is not romance.  

True, some are "married" to their careers and don't regret it.
There's nothing wrong with that.

> In the same manner since I
>find pleasure and joy swimming with dolphins or scuba
>diving others may not. [silly fools *BIG SMILEY*]

Lucky dog. If we had dolphins in Lake Ontario, I'd take up scuba diving!

>My whole attitude here at ARC has been one of tolerance,
>(although I do not have a perfect record), who am I to
>impose my beliefs about what is romance, love, or lust
>upon some one else.

Agreed. We all dance to the beat of a different drummer.

>
>So if angst wants to bash arc, so what, maybe in angst
>they are as happy, romantic and full of love as we claim
>to be.  

Granted, there is a certain comfort knowing that things are hopeless
and knowing that others share your sense of hopelessness. But I think
people deserve better. Accepting that your "fate" is sealed and not allowing
yourself to try to escape your "fate", well, I feel it's the kiss of death.

Note that I didn't say we should impose our beliefs on them or try to "save"
them. What I did say is that we should do is welcome them, if they ever
decide to test the waters here in ARC.

> Yes I use the word claim, because all is not as
>we see it on the net.

Of course. It's life. Some things are better than ARC shows, some are worse.
I've yet to find a rose without a thorn, or a cloud without a silver lining.

>
>Well, time to get off my soapbox, (besides soapboxes are
>not as strong as they used to be).

Yes, nowadays they're made of cardboard:-)

>
>TTFN,
>
>BDC
>-- 
>  May I walk in beauty.  Make my eyes      | TA Shaw          |        oOO 
>  ever behold the red and purple sunset.   | shaw@mixcom.com  |  _____ OO 
>  Make my hands respect the things you have+------------------| (_/-\_)..
>  made, and my ears sharp to your voice - Chief Yellow Lark   | ==(0).

                                                                 ^^^^^^^
                                               Oh! So this is a scuba diver!

Take care
    Robert

-- 
/-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------\
| Robert N. Deviasse            |"The things that are not easily attained,    |
| EMAIL: g2devi@cdf.utoronto.ca |    are the things we cherish the most."     |
+-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------/
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey)
Subject: Re: Holiday blues
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 00:02:43 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <cfFyuou00XsF1EdD0j@andrew.cmu.edu> Richard Iswara <ri0a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca (Mary-Ann Verwey) writes:
>> In article <1993Jan2.042709.2949@mtu.edu> bacon@mtu.edu (Jeff Bacon) writes:
>*******lots of things deleted******
>> >Actually, I'll bet if you had asked, someone woulda hopped a
>> >plane to go see you. Right guys?
>> 
>> I wish :)
>
>Actually there is this small matter of Money'NAirplaneTickets to consider.
>Other than that its a foregone conclusion.
>
>RickI, the RoadRunner

Uhmmm yea, more of a large matter though :) Oh well... maybe I
will win the lottery (grins at Rob) who knows, and then if I do I
can visit all of my friends the are around the globe... 

SNUGS

Mary-Ann

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mary-Ann Verwey                    Hold on to the shining moments in times
verwey@acs.ucalgary.ca             of darkness, they will pull you through
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: taylor@ccrs.emr.ca (Trevor Taylor)
Subject: Re: FORGET ROMANCE TRY LUST
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:08:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.221855.26843@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:
>In article <1993Jan03.190105.23432@mixcom.com> kkwwkk@mixcom.com (TA Shaw) writes:
>>
>>Sorry Dracy baby,
>>
>>I want romance and love and not JUST sex.
>>
>>Toodles,
>>
>>BDC
>
>I'm with you, BDC.... Give me Love and Romance any day;
>Luscious LoveMaking will fall right into place....and it
>will be better than "just sex" any day....
>
>
>

	Nothing like a good bit o love , romance, and hypersensitive
blue glowing feelings to transform the mundane sex into ......

one step beyond (my apologies to madness)


Trevor 
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: Its Chat Time!!!!!
Organization: OFSA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:27:37 GMT

lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) reminisces:


>You know, I think my copy does show Steven and Julie feeding
>each other strawberries.... and Steven lovingly touching the
>tip of Julie's nice with a chocolate covered Strawberry and
>licking it off.   *sigh*   They were falling in love and it
>was the first weekend of Spring.   How romantic!  

Oh GOSH!!! I didn't think anyone SAW me touching the tip of her
nice...uh, er,...well, *BLUSH!*...heh heh...yeah, certainly, how
ROMANTIC! *sheepish grin*

Yeah, we were falling in love even then...*sigh*...we clung to each
other in those early days, weathering our own pain through support
from the other. That deep friendship turned into love rapidly that
deepened so much over the following months.

*sigh*
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair)
Subject: Re: CALLING OZ: '93 status, please ...
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 09:55:02 GMT

peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au (Clare West) writes:

>rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair) writes:
>>peterw@coombs.anu.edu.au (Clare West) writes:

>>>depends what you mean by better. Edouard hasn't shown up on the
>>>doorstep but a few glasses of champagne certainly makes me feel
>>>better.

>>Oh Clare... hang on!  Just a few more days now.

>sure is just a few days.....yipppeeee!

Having had the pleasure of meeting you, I can picture the
smile on your face, the joy in your voice as you said that.

Go and get him... you lucky lady!  :-)

--
Ross
Official Personal Bodyguard to Lis, the Good Romantic Witch
***********************************************************
From: eesb1hcb@dct.ac.uk (Heidi Black)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: <sigh> Guy troubles
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:34:27 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <C0B4sn.GLz@mach1.wlu.ca>, maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna) writes:
> I've been reading this group for a while and everyone seems so nice, I'm
> hoping someone could help a bit.
> 

	[Problem deleted to save space]

	Solution:

	Basically should give the guy a choice...He can either have you or

	her but why should you waste time and energy playing second fiddle to

	his ex??? What gives him the right to mess you about like this??

	If you let him off with this now-who's to say he won't do it again??

	Is it really worth it???

			Hope everything works out for the best..

					Heidi.


> Thanks in advance. =)
> 
> Smiles (at least trying to...),
>    Dawna =)
Newsgroups: alt.romance.chat
From: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter)
Subject: Re: Oh Puter, Its Chat Time!!!!!
Organization: Salter, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:31:11 GMT

lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) shares: 

>Absolutely!!  Hey, EVERYONE at the very first Annual Fireside
>Chat at Steven's was dusted, some several times....
>Hope you can make it there Puter!!   Bring PuterGal!!
>She'll have a great time too!!  

Yeah, but I've see a picture of this lovely apple of Puter's eye and it 
would be a good idea to have an armed guard near her at all times!
Especially considering that once again, the guys are out numbering the girls!

Come one ladies, what better time to meet 15 or so romantic single guys!


>I sure hope that "maybe" turns into a "YES"!!

As of today, we have 5 yesses and 11 maybies.


>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Julie Salter<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
            President, Romantic Fire Association
  Wife of the Official Fireside Sex Advisor..AKA: Steven Salter
"Look into my eyes...you will see....what you mean to me......"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>email: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA