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From: stevesi@microsoft.com (Steven Sinofsky)
Subject: Re: Why doesn't MFC have DIB support?
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:03:53 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <haviland.7@torino.med.uvm.edu> haviland@torino.med.uvm.edu (Tom Haviland) writes:
>
>How come the MFC classes don't have any device independent bitmap
>support?  I'd like to read in bmp files and assign them to a 
>CDIBitmap class, but none exists.  It is a real pain to try and
>use a DIB while you're using the foundation classes for everything
>else; you're constantly switching from handles to classes and vice-
>versa.

MFC doesn't have a DIB class because DIBs do not seem to follow the
rules of HANDLE==OBJECT.  The first release of MFC was designed 
to be a clear and simple OO/C++ encapsulation of Windows.  The problem
with DIBS is that there is no such thing as an HDIB in Windows.  There
are no APIs that manipulate them in a consistent manner.  

>
>An alternative that seems like it should work would be to translate
>the DIB bits to device dependent bits and use those to set a CBitmap,
>but I can't seem to get it to work.  One book I've looked at (Graphics
>programming for Windows 3.1, or something like that, by Ben Ezzel) says
>one thing in its discussion but does another in its code listings!
>
>So, in pursuit of this, does anyone know of any code I can swipe that
>would be essentially
>
>CBitmap::LoadDIB(CString file)
>
>or maybe a whole DIB class implementation?

There is a DLL available on CompuServe (nowhere else, they like to
track how many people download it and other stats, hence the CIS
only availability).

>
>Also, when you load a DIB thats in the DI_RGB (I think; what I mean is
>unpacked) format, are the data values RGB quads or just references into
>the palette defined earlier in the file?  It seems that they should just
>be palette references, but I can't get my code to work and Ezzels code
>does it both ways, depending on where in the chapter you look... :-(
>
>Any help would be appreciated...
>
>Tom
>(haviland@northpole.med.uvm.edu)
>


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.protocols.nfs
From: troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo)
Subject: PCNFS and tklib.dll/rnm*.dll problems under Windows
Organization: Centre for Biomedical Engineering, University of NSW
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:22:33 GMT

I have recently ported an application which uses other TCP networking
products under Windows to PCNFS, and used the new (and undocumented,
because, to quote from Sun "We forgot to write the developer's kit"),
tklib.dll supplied with PCNFS 4.0

The problem I am having, is that for no apparent reason, the rnm*.dll
modules (which tklib.dll attempts to load as part of its initialisation)
will return an error which apparently originates in the LibMain of the
DLLs, but will only do this on some machines.

When this happens, they don't report an error. The result is that the
application appears to load successfully, but the initialisation of
the DLLs fail, so the program exits before control is passed to the
code.

Has anybody had any success in using tklib.dll? Or seen these problems?
Solutions?
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From: marcusj@apricot.co.uk (Marcus Jenkins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Display bitmap while loading - how?
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:55:36 GMT
Organization: Apricot Computers Limited

I am tinkering with an app. written with Borland C++ 3.1 and OWL.  I
would like to display a bitmap early on in the application's loading
(like BCW, RW, etc.).  I have tried putting a MessageBox in my WinMain
as the very first thing.  What happens is, that Windows loads all of the
app., THEN shows the message box.  I want it to load a little bit, 
run some of my code to display the bitmap, change the cursor to ID_WAIT,
and then load up the rest of the app. (which takes a good 5 seconds +
on my machine (a 486-25 MCA with a fast-ish SCSI disk and Smartdrive)).

Please mail me.


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             does not in any way represent my employer.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: ekalenda@netcom.com (Edward J Kalenda)
Subject: Re: Animation under Windows
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:41:28 GMT

From article <9664@emory.mathcs.emory.edu>, by sb@next.neuro.emory.edu (Stephen O. Berger):
>     Can anyone provide any recommendations on how to do fast and  
> reasonably flicker free animation under windows ?  I've read the
> suggestions about using the MM API to provide fast timers, but
> what is the best way to display images on the screen without
> a large amount of flicker.
> 
>     We are thinking of getting ATI ultra cards which I hope will
> help.  Is this the best/fastest card for this purpose, or is
> there some other card which would be better for animation ?  What
> would really be nice is a video card with hardware double buffering.

On ftp.uu.net under /vendor/microsoft/... I found RLEAPP which seems to
do fairly good animation. It is a differential (SP?) animation technique
that someone at Microsoft uploaded. From the comments, it seems they are
pushing it as the standard technique for Windows animation. Hope it helps.
-- 

Ed
ekalenda@netcom.COM
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer
From: shekar@twg.com (Shekar Pasumarthi)
Subject: Listbox
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:34:49 GMT

Hi,

I am trying to put multiple columns ( like a table) in a list box and 
scroll vertically not horizontally. I am formatting the strings and
putting them in the listbox, but the problem I am having is I am
not able to align the columns ( right justified or left justified),
I guess due to the variable pitch used.

Please send me a e-mail, if some one knows a way around this,
where I can display different aligned columns and scroll veritcally.

Thankx,
Shekar.

e-mail shekar@twg.com
From: jcwasik@srv.PacBell.COM (Joe Wasik)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: Books published disclosing undocumented features of Windows.
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:49:46 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell

In article <1992Sep28.194037.11573@rulway.LeidenUniv.nl> jeroenp@rulfc1.LeidenUniv.nl (Jeroen W. Pluimers) writes:
>In article <2737@twg.bc.ca> bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin) writes:
>>I read a small newspaper article describing a "furor" that was
>>created recently by publications telling us things that Windows
>>can do, which aren't described in the manual.  Does anyone know
>>the names of these books?
>Here they are:
>Author: Tamura Jones
>Title:  Undocumented Windows
>Author: Andrew Schulman, David Maxey, Matt Pietrek
>Title:  Undocumented Windows

Could someone please post an example of a so called "feature" that I can
take home and try out?  Or are these undocumented things mainly programmer
hooks that MS expects to disappear in future releases?

Thanks.

-- 
Joe Wasik, Pacific Bell, San Ramon, CA (510)823-2422, jcwasik@pacbell.com
From: brehonyt@ul.ie
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Advice needed on converting Unix system -> Win 3.1
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:39:31 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland



I'm about to convert a Unix ANSI-C system to run under Windows 3.1
on the PC. The program is pretty straight-forward, basic screen/file
I/O, no windows. The only problem I can see is that it needs alot of main 
memory ( there is insufficient memory to run it under DOS ) and with 64K 
segment size in Win 3.1 ( forgetting about the Win32 API for a moment) I
forsee that this could be a problem.

Has anybody out there attempted anything similar ?. What did you find was
the most difficult aspect of it ?. Any advice you might offer would be 
appreciated.

Thanks.

Tom Brehony.
Email : brehonyt@ul.ie
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: jgieske@netcom.com (John Gieske)
Subject: FP error message?
Keywords: C700, Win3.1, SDK, 386-33 w/o 387, DLL
Organization: The Internship from Hell
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:12:23 GMT

I am tyring to use sprintf in a DLL to print a double, and Windows gives me an
"Application Error: floating point support not loaded" error.  I have tried
including WIN87EM in the link section of my makefile and compiling with /FPi 
/Ox, but it doesn't seem to help.  Can someone point me in the right direction?
And does anyone know where I can find a Windows error reference book?  The SDK
manuals are not much help...Thanks!

John Gieske
----
jgieske@netcom.com
jgieske@pan.calpoly.edu
From: mmaston@netcom.com (Michael Maston)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Removeable media messages
Date: 20 Sep 92 01:25:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

Am I missing something really obvious or is there no standard message under
Windows 3.1 to notify applications when a disk is inserted (or ejected) from
a removeable media drive (in this case a CD-ROM) drive.  I would expect
no support for this for floppies since DOS seems unable figure this out without
actually accessing the disk, but CD-ROMs, Syquests, etc? Do I need to talk to
the driver for the unit directly or does Windows support such a thing?

Any words of wisdom, please....

Michael Maston
GTE Government Systems
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: ed@odi.com (Ed Schwalenberg)
Subject: Re: Huge Pointers
Organization: Object Design, Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:52:24 GMT

In article <1a47094a@p3.f67.n245.z2.fidonet.org> Martin_Schloeter@eurologic.fido.de (Martin Schloeter) writes:
  You can do a trick with a kind of alias selector, which defines a segment 
  crossing the original segment boundaries. You have to use the function 
  "AllocSelector","SetSelectorBase","SetSelectorLimit" and "FreeSelector" to 
  construct such a selector which can simply turned to a pointer. This functions 
  are documented in Windows 3.1 but already existed in 3.0.
  But this management you have to do by your own, it isn't supported by the 
  compilers huge pointer mechanismens.

If you must play with this kind of fire, make sure that Windows doesn't get
an opportunity to do a GlobalCompact after you set up the selector but before
you use it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: mmaston@netcom.com (Michael Maston)
Subject: Re: Where is the Win Doc CDROM?
Keywords: CDROM WINDOWS
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:48:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.171253.10439@netcom.com> mbk@netcom.com (Miles Kehoe) writes:
>A few months back I signed up (and was billed) for a product
>due out in September - described as 'all the windows docs and
>many application notes and books written by Microsoft press
>(including Charles Petzold's book) on CD-ROM with a search
>engine front end.
>
>Well, it's October. Anyone seen one of these puppies? Any
>idea when it's coming? I know it's only $39 plus shipping,
>but it IS due.


Hopefully by now you are making use of this disk.  I just got mine on
Friday.  Looks pretty good so far.

Mike



Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: wongl@rs6403.ecs.rpi.edu (Lance)
Subject: Borland C++ v2.0
Reply-To: wongl@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:34:44 GMT

Hello, is there an upgrade from 2.0 to 3.0 from Borland.
I need to write windows programs for Windows 3.1 and Borland C++ v2.0
doesnt cut it.
Keywords: 

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: jeff@tct.com (Jeff Witzer)
Subject: 3.0 vs 3.1 compatibility???
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:20:47 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

After following Petzold's 3.0 tutorship and using Borland's 3.0 package, 
including Resource Workshop, I have run into a 3.0/3.1 compatibility issue.

What Windows call (remember I developed for 3.0 but used 3.1 myself) could
cause a window to not fully disappear upon a DeleteWindow call?  The 
underlying window does not repaint all of the deleted window's area so a 
large "residual" is left...but ONLY IN WHEN USING WINDOWS 3.0!  Using 3.1
works fine...

Any suggestions?

jeff
From: bk@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: Re: Setting a Window to "Always on top"
Summary: Creating Multi-Tasking Modules
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:35:26 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX


 Help !

I am interested in creating several TASKS that run as background
processes under Windows 3.1.  I wish these tasks to handle Serial
Comms and other slow I/O, while I run a process in the foreground
that is timing critical.  Therefore the I/O would have to be
buffered.  

I would like to know:

1. Which book in the SDK has this information?
2. What is the difference in the way Windows handles DOS-Apps
   and Windows apps when tasking?  I have a basic understanding
   of this, but any clarification on preemptive/nonpreemptive
   would be helpful.
3. Reccomendations for approach to this type of problem.
4. Whether DDE would provide a better method of functionality
   than just sending a message to a task and asking it to reply.

I would appreciate any help.  By the way I am using BC++ 3.1 w/ OWL
for development on a 386-40 w/ 8 Megs ram & Windows 3.1.

Thanks in advance,

Robert Faulkner
 
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The University of Texas @ Austin
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: jeroenp@rulfc1.LeidenUniv.nl (Jeroen W. Pluimers)
Subject: FAQs
Organization: Dept. FMC, Gorlaeus Labs, Leiden University, The Netherlands
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 07:56:54 GMT


Hi All,

I sent the info below to the maintainer of the FAQ for this newsgroup.
Anybody with additions or corrections, please reply to me by e-mail.
I'll post a summary.

========================================================================

Using Turbo Debugger for Windows under Windows 3.1:

- TDW 2.5 needs a new version of WINDEBUG.DLL, otherwise the following
  error is being displayed while loading a .EXE file in the debugger:
      "Cannont load WINDEBUG.DLL"

  The new WINDEBUG.DLL can be found at ftp.cica.indiana.edu [129.79.20.84]
  (or one of its mirror sites) in the directory ~ftp/pub/pc/win3/programr/tp
  as TPWN31.ZIP or on wsmr-simtel20.army.mil [????] in the directory
  <MSDOS.BORLAND> as TDWIN31.ZIP.

  TDW 2.5 still has a few problems with Windows 3.1 (it sometimes generates
  exception 13 errors while stepping trough code), but this is a workable
  solution.

- TDW 2.51 (shipped with the Turbo Pascal for Windows 1.0 maintenance
  release) does not function correctly with Windows 3.1.

- TDW 3.1 (shipped with TPW 1.5 and BC++ 3.1) has been written for
  Windows 3.1 and works correctly under both Windows 3.0 and 3.1.

- I don't know for sure about TDW 3.0 (shipped with BC++ 3.0), I believe
  the same solution as for TDW 2.5 applies.


Using ULTRA.DLL with TDW 3.1 under Windows 3.1:

- There is a bug in the ULTRA.DLL driver that hangs your machine unless
  you have the following in your TDW.INI:

  [TurboDebugger]
  VideoDLL=C:\TPW15\ULTRA.DLL
  DebuggerDLL=C:\TPW15\TDWIN.DLL
 
  [VideoOptions]
  DebugFile=C:\TDW.LOG
  .....

  The DebugFile line is important. When ommiting this line, your machine
  will hang.


WinSight shipped with BC++ 3.0 does not work under Windows 3.1:

- There is an update file available at ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the directory
  ~/ftp/pub/pc/win3/programr/bcpp as wsupd1.zip.


Dr. Frank does not work with Windows 3.1:

- This programm has been reincarnated as an official Borland tool and is
  shipped with BC++ 3.1 as "WinSpector".

- There has been a file DRFRNK31.ZIP for Windows SDK 3.1/beta users, but
  it hasn't been spread widely and it is unknown if it is completely 
  bug-free under the release version of Windows 3.1. It needs the new
  TOOLHELP.DLL shipped with Windows 3.1 and does not run under Windows 3.0.
  WinSpector however does run under Windows 3.0.

- WinSpector is not shipped with TPW 1.5. I heard from Borland management
  (Zacker Urlocker) that they want to make it available for TPW 1.5 users,
  but I still haven't heard anything about it since then.

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From: be503@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jacob Richman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Subject: request help: Getcharwidth for fax driver
Date: 2 Oct 1992 01:22:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be503@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jacob Richman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Hi,

In Windows, when I call "Getcharwidth" with a printer DC of any fax driver 
(eg. Bitfax, Winfax Pro), the function returns a zero (fail).
The function works fine when it is a regular printer DC (not fax).

How do I get the character widths when using the fax drivers?

I am not subscribed to this forum so please answer me directly by email at:
be503@cleveland.freenet.edu

Sorry if you get this more then once due to cross-posting.

Thanks in advance,
Jacob
-- 
Jacob Richman
Ma'Aleh Adumim
Israel
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: peter@kentrox.uucp (Peter Uchytil)
Subject: Direct/fast graphics in Windows
Organization: ADC Kentrox, Portland OR
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:49:09 GMT


I have a friend who is new to Windows programming (gee, bet you 
haven't seen that sentence before).  He wants to do some
high speed graphics applications and is afraid that Windows
is going to slow things down too much.  He said his speed
requirements are such that he almost always has to write directly
to the video card.  

I know this topic has come up here before, so I'm wondering if
people can give me some pointers (new archives, FAQ, MSJ, Dr. Dobbs, etc)
to related material.  If anyone has thoughts and comments I'd love
those, too.  Whatever you can give me :-)  Thanks!

Pete
-- 
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peter@kentrox.com |  Portland, Oregon    |  And I tell them they are right"
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: chens@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (S. Chen)
Subject: Saving GDIs into a disk-based metafile
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Distribution: comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:00:49 GMT

Hi,
	I followed the Petzold's method in using GDI calls on a metafile 
device context. The created metafile can be read using Clipboard viewer and
the Graphics viewer of the Windows Resource Kit. However, the Microsoft
Word for Windows 2 doesn't like it (citing invalid file format). 
In addition, when imporing the metafile into the CorelDrw 3.0, some of the
recorded GDI calls are not executed. I think these are due to the graphic 
filters used the above programs. Is there anyone who is familiar with 
metafile and would provide me some lead on this?

	Thanks! Your assistance is very much appreciated.

Regards,
shiun.
PS. Please reply by email if possible.
email:chens@elec.canterbury.ac.nz

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: kevr@is.morgan.com (Kevin Reilly)
Subject: Debugging Dll's
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:33:29 GMT

I have written a number of dll's that are add-ins to Excel and Wingz.
Can anyone suggest how I might debug these dll's in these particular
environments? I have MultiScope and the Borland Debugger. Can I
attach myself to these debuggers after the dll has been loaded by
another app but not yet called?

Thank you in advance!
Kevin M. Reilly
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: bmeranda@uceng.UC.EDU (Brent Meranda)
Subject: CDialog: :CreateIndirect
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:38:42 GMT

Does anyone have any examples of using CDialog::CreateIndirect in the MFC
or CreateDialogIndirect in the Windows 3.x API.

My main problem is packing the template structure (I believe :).

The create indirect functions for menus are very simular.


Code examples would be greately appreciated.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BORLAND C++ AND TURBO C++?
Keywords: QUESTION
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:57:17 GMT

jagrant@emr1.emr.ca (John Grant) writes:

>In article <qian.717476370@honte> qian@tau.uleth.ca (Hua Qian) writes:
>>< BORLANDC ++ OR TURBO C++? >
>>I'm going to purchase one of the c++ compiler above, can any one tell me what's
>>the difference between the two please? I noticed TURBO C++ is a few hundread 
>>dollars cheaper than BORLANDC ++.

>Borland has 3 compilers.  TurboC++ for DOS, TurboC++ for Windows and Borland C++
>which includes both the DOS & Windows products.  TurboC++ for DOS runs in DOS
>and can only create DOS apps. TurboC++  for Windows runs in Windows and can
>only create Windows apps.  Borland C++ includes both products AND they contain
>much more serious optimization.

>The other issue facing you is the packaging of the library tools for each.
>TurboVision is a C++ class library for helping you do menus, dialogs (all the
>usual interface stuff) for DOS (your apps will look very much like the
>Turbo C++ IDE itself).  Objectvision (aka OWL) is a C++ class library for
>Windows only.  Note: it is NOT compatible with TurboVision.  If you see
>the term Application Frameworks, that refers to a package that contains
>BOTH TurboVision for DOS and OWL for Windows.

[...]

>If you are programming for the Windows API in straight C, then you don't
>need ObjectWindows.  All you need is Turbo C for Windows.

Actually, ObjectWindows comes with Turbo C++ for Windows (there is no
such thing as Turbo C for Windows).  I have Turbo C++ for Windows --
it's pretty nice.

>Oh yes, don't forget - if the product is 'Borland'
>then it has significantly better optimization than the 'Turbo' line.
>(I think).

This is correct.
If I'm not mistaken, the Borland C++ compiler also comes with source
code for ObjectWindows, whereas Turbo C++ doesn't.

>Hope this helps,
>john a. grant
>geological survey of canada

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc
From: steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Balogh (+61 3 565 4747))
Subject: Re: Toolbars in windows
Organization: Monash University, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:40:49 GMT

In article <BvEM2H.3q8@unccsun.uncc.edu> adfreema@uncc.edu writes:
>
>I'm trying to write a fancy program with toolbars but I can't seem to find any 
>examples of toolbars.

Have a look at ftp.cica.indiana.edu:/pub/pc/win3/programr/toolbar.zip
            or monu6.cc.monash.edu.au:/pub/win3/programr/toolbar.zip

This file contains a library of C programs to implement toolbars.

Regards,
         Steve

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