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From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Re: My opinion of the "Great" Lakes...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 00:23:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.170727.21194@parsifal.umkc.edu> vax1::rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu (Roy Bengal Tiger) writes:
>
>I've seen 'em. They ain't that great.


Who asked you?


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David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
From: marksteg@merv.detroit.sgi.com (Mark Stegbauer)
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: My opinion of the "Great" Lakes...
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:10:00 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

>From: vax1::rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu (Roy Bengal Tiger)
>Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
>Subject: My opinion of the "Great" Lakes...
>Message-ID: <1992Sep14.170727.21194@parsifal.umkc.edu>
>Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 13:07:27 EDT
>Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
>Lines: 2


>I've seen 'em. They ain't that great.


This loser is still using a vax, ignore him.
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Subject: My opinion of the "Great" Lakes...
From: vax1::rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu (Roy Bengal Tiger)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:07:27 GMT
Reply-To: vax1::rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu (Roy Bengal Tiger)
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City


I've seen 'em. They ain't that great.
From: mhoppe@austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: Re: so... How bout those great lakes?
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:48:55 GMT
Reply-To: mhoppe@hoppe.austin.ibm.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: mhoppe@hoppe.austin.ibm.com


In article <1992Sep4.164338.2427@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, mhoppe@austin.ibm.com () writes:
> 
> Hey, I think I can follow this news group.  I grew up between
> Bay City and Saginaw, and spent 5 years in the UP (MTU).  Spent
> some time in upstate New York, and now live in wonderful Austin.
> Still have lots of friends and family in mid-Michigan and make   
> it up there a couple times a year.  Christmas just aint the same
> when you're wearing shorts and a t-shirt!


Oops, forgot to give my name, please forgive me, this news group 
stuff is still a bit new to me.

Later,

Mike Hoppe
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From: jwest@wisc (Jeff West)
Subject: Re: WISCONSIN!!!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Distribution: na
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:20:23 CDT

ejohnso@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Eric Johnson) writes:
: In <AefeBCm00VolMBn0d5@andrew.cmu.edu> Christopher Ryan Stengel <cs4v+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
: 
: I miss those $4 cases of Lienenkugels (sp). Tastes horrid, but you canhave a
: helluva party for twenty bucks.
: 
: -- 
:     Eric Johnson	         |  Commit random acts of kindness and
:     ejohnso@ccu.umanitoba.ca 	 |         senseless beauty.
: _____________________________________________________________________________
: I support the NRA, because with Bush and Quayle in the White House and 

You outta switch to Leine's Limited then!  More $$$ but it's the best beer
out there.

Jeff West

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From: ghill@dot.cs.colorado.edu (Gregory Hill)
Subject: georgian bay
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:51:05 GMT

Wow, a great lakes newsgroup! Has anyone been canoeing in
the Georgian Bay recently? I was there about 8 years ago,
and still think it is one of the best places I have ever
been (near Killarney provincial park). How about Isle Royale?
I've been living in Boulder for 3-4 years now and I really
like it (especially the climbing), but there are definitely
a few things about the great lakes I miss. Anyone been to
Stokely Creek to go X-C skiing (near S.Ste.Marie)? 




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From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: WISCONSIN!!!
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:13:44 GMT

In article <22356@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com> mstemper@ems.cdc.com writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.190346.13732@balrog.dseg.ti.com>, keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer) writes:
>|> When You've Said WIS-CONSIN, You Said It ALL!
>|> 	(who remembers that commercial?)
>Forget the commercial - it's for rice beer!
>Just remember the fifth quarter.
>
>|> 
>|> > >>(Milwaukee is actually just as cool, but I'll go with the whole
>|> > >>state as my vote)
>|> 
>|> East Side, Bradford Beach, Holy Hill, Dandelion Park, 4th July Fireworks
>                              ^^^^^^^^^
>Excuse me? Holy Hill is 5 miles south of Hartford, in Washington
>County. It is by no stretch of the imagination part of Milwaukee!

It is if its an indian summer day (Wow, what's that he says to himself?), and
you have an afternoon geology class at campus, (scratch one geology class) and
the leaves are turning, (autumn colors! sugar maples) and you have a KZ400 and
you don't have to be to work till 2nd shift!

If thats the case, Holy Hill is too part of Milwaukee!

>
>|> Usingers, Amerika's Finst 
>Let's not forget Klements, either! I leave Johnsonvilles strictly
>for the YUP-scale crowd.
>

Oh, and how could I have forgotten, sheepshead!
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From: chiquita@camelot.bradley.edu (Stephanie Buffman)
Subject: Lake Huron
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:01:21 GMT


Does anyone know anymore about the black organic substance that washed
up on the shore of Lake Huron in the Saginaw Bay?  Did they ever discern
what it was?

(it is my hometown, and I wonder...)
Steph
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:01:21 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Distribution: na
Subject: Lake Huron


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From: jnomina@andy.bgsu.edu (A.P.K.)
Subject: Re: Toledo part of Michigan?
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:43:34 GMT

demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
> 
> 	We can only hope that not only do they take Toledo, but also come down
> south far enough to gobble up Lima and east far enought to take out Cleveland
> :).
>

     Does that mean that the sssllllooooowwwwww OHIO drivers (c'mon,
30 MPH in a 55 zone?!?!) will feel inclined to stay away from what
is now Northwest Ohio?  If so, then as a resident of BG, I may be
inclined to go along with the idea...  :-)

BTW, BGSU vs. OSU, this Saturday... we've got it in the bag!  Heh, heh!

Jim

.sig's take time and space.
 
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From: benjamin@tuna.az05.bull.com <Paul Benjamin>
Subject: Re: so... How bout those great lakes?
Organization: Bull HN
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:31:24 GMT

In article <chiquita.715478077@camelot> chiquita@camelot.bradley.edu (Stephanie
Buffman) writes:
>
>Well, John, this is a group that talks about the 
>attributes of Michigan, and asks questions related to
>tourism and stuff...  I like it.  Being from a little tourist
>town on Lake Huron just north of Bay City, I love it.
>Btw...where do all ye fellow Michiganders hail from?
>Steph
>
>
I'm from Imlay City (pop. 2000 or thereabouts) which is in Lapeer
County, roughly halfway between Flint and Port Huron.  Caseville
was a popular summer haunt.  I also have fond memories of places
like Topinabee, Traverse City, the UP.  I spent 5 years in Ann
Arbor, worked briefly in Battle Creek (lived in Galesburg) and
then off to DC and eventually this godforsaken desert.  I miss
Faygo Rock and Rye, Tiger Stadium, anyplace up north, canoing on
the Au Sable, seasons that actually changed...

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From: dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman)
Subject: Re: Fires in N. Ton.
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 06:50:22 GMT

v384rv4k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Lynn Harper) writes:
: What's all this about fires in North Tonawanda?  I live
: there and haven't even noticed!  Too much studying.  What's
: burning?  I though garbage-pickers were more the problem
: these days.  Also, Buffalo proper has already had at least
: 3 more murders than it had in all of last year.  They're
: calling it a crime wave.  

Eyewitness News (Channel 7) has a *BIG* following north o' the border, and  
reportedly Buffalo newscasts have higher ratings than local newscasts in  
Toronto.

Anyhow, if you're familiar with Channel 7's style or reporting, it appears that  
Buffalo is continually ablaze ... the first stories of the night are about  
fires that took place the day before, many of them in North Tonawanda  
lumberyards.  Meanwhile, Channel 4 will have a "Buffalo Booster" story as the  
first of the night, usually about some trend like cross-border shopping or the  
announcement of a new downtown skyscraper.  Channel 2 will start off with a  
"feel good" story, like the result of little Timmy's surgery or highlights of  
funraising efforts for Camp Good Days and Special Times.

Do Canadians watch Channel 2?  No, or otherwise they would think Buffalo is a  
city chock full of handicapped children awaiting surgery at Children's or  
attending camp.  If they were watching Channel 4, they'd think Buffalo was  
constantly under construction, with all the new malls, office buildings and  
planned unit developments being built.  No, they watch Channel 7, and think  
Buffalo is a smouldering pile of rubble.  

: Lynn

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Subject: NOTICE:"Bigfoot/Sasquatch" Sightings Request
Date: 14 Sep 1992 02:36:45 GMT
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From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: Re: --- WHY ---
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:01:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link


>Franklin Cider Mill . . . opens for the autumn.

Sadist.
From: lrandall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Laura Randall)
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: RE: Wisconsin
Date: 14 Sep 92 04:20:24 GMT
Reply-To: lrandall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <92257.201326ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET>, ICSPMS@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>Oh no someone who remembers sheepshead!  Nobody out here has a clue
>what I'm talking about!
>
>Re: Johnsonville brats being for the yuppie crowd......hey if they're
>all you can get your hands on, they sure beat nothing at all!

Believe it or not, we can get Johnsonville brats here in Chico, CA (90 miles
north of Sacramento). Makes my husband so happy when he can make a pig of 
himself piling that kraut and onions on the beer simmered and grilled brats.
He *almost* doesn't miss the 30-below winters...But he sure does miss the
white tailed deer that are larger than the dog-sized black tailed deer we
have out here. *sigh*

>
>Go Badgers!
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From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: WISCONSIN!!!
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:06:13 GMT

In article <187scmINNfcu@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:
>
>   David, any jobs for research programmers with image processing
>skills & interests out there?  Five pounds of real Wisconsin bratwurst
>and a case of Garten Brau for any information leading to gainful
>employment! (Only 1/2 :-)

I would try GE Medical Systems, County T in Waukesha.

-- 
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From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Re: WISCONSIN!!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:20:19 GMT

In article <185uufINN42g@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:
>In article <kedX01600Uzx02jlZG@andrew.cmu.edu> Christopher Ryan Stengel <cs4v+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Any other Badger fans out there?
>
>   There *are* a few of us expatriot Wisconsites out here.
>
>   Here's something I've always wondered about:  Where, when, and how
>did Michigan manage to steal the yoopee, which should by all rights
>belong to Wisconsin?  (That oughta get a discussion flowing!)


Actually, after all those years of over-the-border liquor sales, I think
Wisconsin *does* own the UP!

-- 
David Knapp                                      University of Colorado, Boulder
Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
From: beh@geech.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Bruce Howells)
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: Michigan
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:42:08 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Internet access via the Free Software Foundation

God, I miss Michigan!  I've only been gone since last October, and I've
been back three times, but it is the most amazing thing how that place eats
into you... I grew up there, and went to school there, and all that jazz.
BUT, I'm a classical musician, singer, and you don't get much quality opera
in Michigan (no offence) and so...

Oh, but I will never, ever EVER miss the University of Michigan.  Ann
Arbor, yes, UM, NOT!!!!

(Cheboygan - 1962 to 1980; Mt. Pleasant 1980 to 1985; Ann Arbor 1985 to
1991)

Nancy Howells
(beh@gnu.ai.mit.edu -- another reason to move -- your husband is from New
Jersey.)
From: mstemper@ems.cdc.com (Michael Stemper)
Newsgroups: alt.great-lakes
Subject: Re: WISCONSIN!!!
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:11:46 GMT
Reply-To: mstemper@ems.cdc.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of Ceridian

In article <1992Sep8.190346.13732@balrog.dseg.ti.com>, keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer) writes:
|> When You've Said WIS-CONSIN, You Said It ALL!
|> 	(who remembers that commercial?)
Forget the commercial - it's for rice beer!
Just remember the fifth quarter.

|> 
|> > >>(Milwaukee is actually just as cool, but I'll go with the whole
|> > >>state as my vote)
|> 
|> East Side, Bradford Beach, Holy Hill, Dandelion Park, 4th July Fireworks
                              ^^^^^^^^^
Excuse me? Holy Hill is 5 miles south of Hartford, in Washington
County. It is by no stretch of the imagination part of Milwaukee!

|> Usingers, Amerika's Finst 
Let's not forget Klements, either! I leave Johnsonvilles strictly
for the YUP-scale crowd.

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From: lrandall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Laura Randall)
Subject: Re: WISCONSIN!!!
Reply-To: lrandall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 21:22:36 GMT

In article <kedX01600Uzx02jlZG@andrew.cmu.edu>, Christopher Ryan Stengel <cs4v+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Just my 2 dollars worth.
>
>U RA RA WIS CON SIN!!! U RA RA WIS CON SIN!!!
>
>(Milwaukee is actually just as cool, but I'll go with the whole
>state as my vote)
>
>Any other Badger fans out there?
>
>Chris.
>
>                                                 __
>                                                / / /  _  * _
>                                               /___/)_/(_(_/_)_____
>                                            Christopher Ryan Stengel
>                                                stengel@cmu.edu
>                                           Carnegie Mellon University
>                                                 (412) 268-8372
>
My husband was born and grew up in Eau Claire, WI.  I read this group to
try to understand him...
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From: roy@biostat.med.umich.edu (Roy St. Laurent)
Subject: How Michigan got the UP (was WISCONSIN!!!)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 20:23:03 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Biostatistics, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: roy@biostat.med.umich.edu (Roy St. Laurent)
Originator: roy@sol


Somewhere earlier in this thread, someone asked about how the UP
happened to end up in Michigan.  Here's the answer, to the best
of my recollection from grade school Michigan history classes.

About the time Michigan was being carved out of the Northwest Territory
(is that the right name?), and just before / after Ohio had become a 
state, there was a (fairly) fierce series of border skirmishes between
Michigan and Ohio over the Toledo strip -- a strip of land including present
day Toledo.  Both states (or possibly territories at the time) claimed 
Toledo and the land around it as their own.

Well in order to settle the issue, the Feds convinced Michigan to take the
UP (up to that time, "Michigan" meant the lower peninsula only), in exchange
for giving up any claim to the Toledo strip.

...And that's how we got the UP and Ohio got Toledo.  Personally, I think
we (Michiganders) got the better end of the deal.  Though just within the
last week or so, the Ann Arbor News had an article about how the residents
of Toledo are highly dissatisfied with the Ohio state government -- they
feel they are being ignored.  There was even mention of secession to join
Michigan.  The article mentions that if Toledo were in Michigan, it would
be the state's second largest city.

Roy St. Laurent (originally from Bay City, MI)
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Subject: Re: Toledo part of Michigan?
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:32:48 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Sep3.232838.3299@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John R Laplante) writes:
> 
> As we all know, there was a war between Ohio and Michigan over Toledo.
> fortunately, Michigan lost and was blessed with the UP. I always 
> thought us Michiganders got the better deal.
> 
> If you get UPI newswire, check out the the clari.news.michigan
> group. There's a (mainly humorous) effort in Toledo to seceed
> from Ohio and join Michigan.

	We can only hope that not only do they take Toledo, but also come down
south far enough to gobble up Lima and east far enought to take out Cleveland
:).

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From: prb@chinet.chi.il.us (Paul Botts)
Subject: GREAT LAKES INFO ON-LINE
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:35:52 GMT

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