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From: s12334@doc.flc.colorado.edu (S12334)
Subject: Re: Smiths haunt from the grave
Organization: Fort Lewis College
Reply-To: S12334@doc.flc.colorado.edu
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:32:00 GMT
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In article <1992Aug12.215720.25017@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>, faubert@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (David M. Faubert) writes...
>In article <kbennett.713572183@milton> kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:
>>barryb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Barry A T Brown) writes:
>>
>>>Anyone heard something about The Smiths reforming for the gig they did
>>>at the weekend with madness?  God save us if The Smiths reform, just think
>>>of the effect on the suicide rate..
>>
>>Morrissey/Smiths when I'm in a *bad* mood, it actually makes me feel
>>*better* instead of worse.  My theory is that I make a comparison between
>>myself and Morrissey and find myself better off, and that cheers me up.
>>
>>Lena
> 
>This reminds me of a time I went camping with a couple of friends. We all
>sat around a dying fire at three in the morning and listened to the same
>Morrissey/Smiths tape over and over and over again. We were thoroughly
>drunk and half-passed out in the middle of nowhere, with no sound but our
>friend Morrissey crooning miserably in the night. "Some girls are bigger
>than others" cheered things up occasionally, but "I never had no one ever"
>made us all reach for the bottle. Then it started to rain. What a party!
> 
>For some reason, I have fond memories of this night. It was one of a kind!
> 
>I hope this starts a Smiths thread.
> 
>Later,
> 
>Dave

Whenever I listen to The Smiths I always feel alot better afterward.
Especially songs from _Louder Than Bombs_. Sing Me to Sleep is
my favorite sad song, but it always makes me feel better.
I always find myself listening to Peter Murphy or something and just going
'life really sucks' but I put on Smiths and go 'life really sucks'
and then smile.  I think it is a subconsious reaction???

People give M* to much shit for being depressed, I think he's great.
I can understand being depressed in this world anyway.
Life really sucks   ;(
JAC
*%*
 -
God save the Queen,  God bless us all


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ca_sb@gsbacd.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: U2 sales
Organization: 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:52:39 GMT


Eric [emansell@miasun.med.miami.edu] writes

> In article <l8igf4INN6bb@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>>I was just wondering how U2 tickets were sold in other parts of the US outside
>>of LA for the 1st ZOO TV tour.  In LA it was done by phone *only*. Just
>>wondering  because they haven't announced the stadium tour yet in LA and 
>>wanted to know how tickets would be sold this time.
> 
> Heard on the radio about tickets being sold in a 'lottery' fashion.
> Something about taking a number and then being selected at random so as to
> 'discourage people from hanging out' around the ticket outlet.  I haven't 
> actually talked to anyone here (Miami) that bought tickets (last Sat.) so don't
> know if that is how it actually went down.
> 
> 
> Later days...
> Eric
> (emansell@miasun.med.miami.edu)

	That's how it worked in Chicago. The first time around it was by phone
only and there was a limit of 2!!! tix per person only :(.  But this time, it
was sold through the ticketmaster outlets as well as by phone. The deal was
anyone waiting in line _before_ the outlet opened would be thrown into a
lottery for the order. I think the idea was to discourage people from having to
camp out to wait for tix in bad neighborhoods. The limit was 4 for pavilion
seats and 10 for lawn. Luckily, friends were able to get me a tix. 
			Later . . .
			Sarang.
			bama@ellis.uchicago.edu
From: denmark@csustan.csustan.edu (Mark Dinh)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Catherine Wheel info?
Keywords: Catherine Wheel (UK)
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:53:16 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <schuck.714240664@sfu.ca> Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca writes:
>I saw the Catherine Wheel at the Commodore in Vancouver on the 9th.
>
>They *might* have been a good band, but they played so loud I thought
>my ears were going to bleed. 
>
>They sounded ok from the washrooms in the back though. :)
>
If you thought CW was loud, try a My Bloody Valentine set!  The washroom
might alleviate the sound--if you had your head in the toilet (actually,
IMHO, the god-awful higher-than-a-chainsaw guitar screaching of MBV
would probably penetrate water)  :-)

-- 
*"I'm TV sick.  No one /-M---A---R---K-- --D---I---N---H-\ "Let me just once  *
*works so hard to make/----denmark@csustan.csustan.edu----\   be cruel w/o    *
*me feel so bad"--JMC/--------Cal State U, Stanislaus------\ being kind"-Ride *
____________________/-----------U at Calif Berkeley---------\__________________
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From: chappy@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Doug R. Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Feelies info ===>> Read it!
Date: 12 Aug 1992 15:04:13 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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james@raveup.b24a.ingr.com (Teddie James) writes:

>No, the Feelies aren't back together.  However, I just heard yesterday
>about a new band called Luna or Luna(2).  It's got Stan Demeski of the
>Feelies,a former member of the Chills, and a former member of
>Galaxie 500.  I don't remember the other two names.

The former member of Galaxie 500 is Dean Whearam.

-- 
Doug Chapman
KSDB 91.9 Manhattan, KS.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: mdh410@huxley.anu.edu.au (Michael D Hanslip)
Subject: Re: P.J. Harvey Info Wanted
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Distribution: usa
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:31:15 GMT

reynhout@cs.uri.edu (Andrew Reynhout) writes:

>kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu writes:
>>I just bought P.J. Harvey's new CD, _Dry_.  I'm impressed, and I
>>would be interested in hearing more information about her person
>>and her career.  Like the kind of stuff you might have heard in 
>>interviews or read in magazines or soemthing, what she has done
>>before, where she's from, why she's so weird and wild :)
>>etc.

>   Someone else can tell you more about her (her name is Polly Harvey,
>the band is PJHarvey) than I can, so I won't attempt that part, but:
>  
>>Is she planning to tour, that's a big one.  I can't hear
>>Sheela-Na-Gig without wanting to jump up and down.

>   She'll be in Boston on August 11.  August 11 is such a big day...
>Release date for the new Throwing Muses, the new Swallow, the new Babes in 
>Toyland, *and* P J Harvey will be playing in Boston.  Sounds like an
>expensive day for a lot of people I know.  :-)

>   Andrew

There is a full article on PJHarvey in New Musical Express from about
4 months ago if you can find one! Will try to find my old copy and will
post info if successful.
Michael Hanslip
yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au
>-- 
>   Andrew <reynhout@cs.uri.edu>    "If you remind me of my dog,
>                                    we'll probably get along"  -jane siberry
>   meow
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: grey@bnr.ca (Bryan Miller)
Subject: IMAGES IN VOGUE (IIV)
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: grey@bnr.ca (Bryan Miller)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:41:06 GMT

IMAGES IN VOGUE

Does anyone know what happened to this band, and if it
is possible to get any of their catalog on CD still?
They recorded out of Vancouver in early/mid 80's. I tried
to order the only CD I found listed from my local store,
but it is no longer available. Any leads on places that
may have CDs in stock?

Thanks,
Grey
From: Rob_Simons@mindlink.bc.ca (Rob Simons)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Morrissey vs. Smiths
Date: 19 Aug 92 04:05:23 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Lourenco William Danta writes:
> 
>         Now, I am wondering whether people are more pleased with Morrissey
>         and his present band than with the Smiths. If you have an opinion
>         please speak (or write) out!



I think Johnny Marr has more talent in the hangnail of his right pinky than
Morrissey ever will.

                                                                _ROB_
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From: Greg Clow <ecurrent@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: A Band Called Firehouse
X-To: CHRISTOPHER T. JONES
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:26:00 GMT

cjones@eng.umd.edu (Christopher T. Jones) writes:

CT>Does anyone out there have the scoop on Firehouse?  I know that they're
CT>mentioned in a Red Hot Chili Peppers song (Good Time Boys, I think), 
CT>and some cats that I keep in touch with dig 'em, but I'm clueless on 
CT>what type of music they play.  Are they funk and roll (at the risk of 
CT>classifying bands, which I try to avoid like the plague) or what?  I'm 
CT>thanking you in advance!

Be very, very careful.  There are two bands to be discussed here, fIREHOSE 
and Firehouse.

fIREHOSE: this is the band mentioned in the Peppers song.  They were 
formed from the remnants of the Minutemen, a post-punk band that are have 
a godlike status in many peoples eyes.  I've never really been a fan, but 
that's beside the point.  Anyway, I don't really know how to pigeonhole 
fIREHOSE's sound, but they're not really "funk and roll", although 
elements of funk do enter into thier stuff.  Ummm... perhaps someone else 
could offer a better description.

Firehouse: a bad top 40 shit-metal band.  I read an interview with them 
where they talk about fans coming up to them after shows and complaining 
because they went to see fIREHOSE, *thinking* that they were going to see 
Firehouse, and how "fIREHOSE *sucks*, man, but you guys kick *ass*!!".  
Figures.


Greg
ecurrent@zooid.guild.org
sizone!ecurrent@ee.ryerson.ca


--- WinQwk 2.0 #0
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:30:37 -0400 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: NEW THREAD: Favourite Cure Song

>
How about this for a new thread... What is you favourite (and least
favourite) Cure song?
>

favorite: impossible to call--just about *anything* [live especially] ;D

least favorite: Give Me It--I just have to be in the right mood for it.

--Vernon.
From: karen@Cayman.COM (Karen Houldin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE:Soul Assylum
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:55:33 GMT
Distribution: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA

I am not sure if Soul Assylum has a new album out yet or not, but they are
going on tour.  They will be in Boston on Sept 21st.

--


...............................................................................
 Karen Houldin    : Cayman Systems Inc, 26 Landsdowne St, Cambridge, MA 02139
 karen@cayman.com : Phone 617-494-1999, Fax 617-494-9270, AppleLink D0523

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From: rwn@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (robert.w.neumann)
Subject: Re: OMD got all their ideas from...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:14:32 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Summary: Keyboard interview

In article <1684113494.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu>, EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
> OMD got all their ideas from "KOTENMELODIE 2" by Kraftwerk
> from the AUTOBAHN album, (IMHO)!
>  
> Well, maybe that's a tad extreme, but the only thing that is missing
> from the Kraftwerk tune is the sappy--I mean, the wimpy--uh, the vocals!:-)
> Other than that, it sounds like OMD. Which is funny cuz it was released in
> '75 and OMD didn't release anything until '79.
>  
> --Eric

KEYBOARD Magazine interviewed OMD a few years back, and members
of the band were quoted as saying that they were heavily influenced 
by Kraftwerk.  I don't recall the exact issue, but if I spent time
at home looking it would turn up. 

Bob Neumann
"BEATBOX-D"
From: ebm@corvair.almaden.ibm.com (Eli Messinger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Major Label Music is EVIL!
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:41:40 GMT
Organization: Jay Maynard Fan Club

Justin C. Goh...

> ... I
> do agree that bands often leave their labels behind without 
> acknowledging the fact that they wouldn't be where they are without
> that label.  Admirably, Helmet forced Interscope to allow 
> Amphetamine Reptile to release "Meantime" on vinyl...

Or how about Nirvana leaving SubPop?  As I understand it SubPop got points
on Nirvana's zillion-selling major label release.  I would guess the cash
from that deal helped SubPop a lot more than Nirvana having stayed would have.
--
   "Missing a kick / at the ice box door / It closed anyway." --Jack Kerouac
       CSNET: ebm@almaden.ibm.com / UUNET: ...!uunet!almaden.ibm.com!ebm
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu (Griffy)
Subject: Re: Primus & Rollins Band
Reply-To: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:58:47 GMT

In article <BssvKB.64I@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (KING OF THE BEACH) writes:
>also, the same for Primus, as well as any info on a new album.

   Primus is opening (along with the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy) for U2
all this month.

???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
?      Daniel I. Matt       |    Now I lay me down to sleep,                  ?
?   Iowa State University   |    I pray the funk will make me freak,          ?
?                           |    If I should die before I waked,              ?
?    INTERNET ADDRESSES:    |    Allow me Lord to rock out naked!             ?
?     dmatt@iastate.edu     |                                                 ?
?  tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu |    "Sir Psycho Sexy" -- Red Hot Chili Peppers   ? 
???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
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From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: OMD got all their ideas from...
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:56:30 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

And lo, EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu spake unto the masses saying:
>
> OMD got all their ideas from "KOTENMELODIE 2" by Kraftwerk
> from the AUTOBAHN album, (IMHO)!
> 
> Well, maybe that's a tad extreme, but the only thing that is missing
> from the Kraftwerk tune is the sappy--I mean, the wimpy--uh, the vocals!:-)

That's hardly news - Andy McCluskey has been freely admitting for *years*
that his numero uno, absolute number one top influence was Kraftwerk - he
cites attending a Kraftwerk concert in 1975 as his most important formative
musical experience. Hell, he's even covered "Neon Lights" on his last album
and discussed collaborating with them.

I wouldn't completely ignore OMD's *own* contribution though. The only OMD
album that strikes me as *blatantly* Kraftwerk influenced is
_Organisation_. Some of the tracks on that could sit on a Kraftwerk album
without looking out of place. The influence elsewhere is noticeable but
rather more subtle.

--
		      Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
	"I like the labels on food tins/They're so important to me"
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 17 Aug 1992 10:57:40 CDT
From: <U54802@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Selling Lola II for Alpine Valley

     Okay, here's the deal. My friend doesn't want to go to Lolapalooza II at A
lpine Valley on August 29th. I'm selling his ticket. If you live in the South S
uburbs of Chicago, I can probably give you ride but you have to pay for some ga
s and chauffer fee(hehe). The best offer gets the ticket. Hurry up. In fact, du
e to the demand, you're probably too late! MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
            MAIL TO ME DIRECTLY!
                                Signed,
                                    Rich<54802>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: edf250y@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Marks)
Subject: NEW THREAD: Favourite Cure Song
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:30:52 GMT

How about this for a new thread... What is you favourite (and least
favourite) Cure song?

I'm not entirely satisfied that this group is the most appropriate for
this posting, but early (therefore alternative) Cure is where my favs
come from, so i'm hoping most similarly-minded fans read this group.

Anyway, my personal highs and lows are:-

Best: A Forest (especially live version)
	Charlotte Sometimes

Worst: Let's Go To Bed
	Love Cats

-- 
Andrew J. Marks
Student Number: 11278056

Office: E2.07
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: nock@tera.cs.umn.edu (Clifton M. Nock)
Subject: Smiths releases
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:37:32 GMT

Hello,
I hear that there will be some Smiths releases on August 25.  Namely,

- a "Best of" the Smiths album
- This Charming Man cd single
- Morrissey "Tomorrow" cd single

Can anyone confirm this?  Does anybody know track listings?

Thanks.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: magnus@nexto.udac.uu.se (Magnus Ring)
Subject: Hawkwind on CD?
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 07:20:24 GMT

Can anyone tell me wich Hawkwind albums have been released on CD.
I'm especially interested in 'Space Ritual' since the records are 
getting rather worn out.

/Magnus Ring
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Barenaked Ladies
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:06:26 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken

mendola@acsu.buffalo.edu (James J. Mendola) writes:


>	Does nobody wish to express their love for _Gordon_?


well, they DID screw up the songs from their e.p., but it's
 still an amazing album...

gotta love the housemartins part, too, in the first song...- bob gaj
From: bbehlen@soda.Berkeley.EDU (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: New Stone Roses Release
Date: 17 Aug 1992 19:50:25 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug17.095437.21483@eua.ericsson.se> etxsahm@eua.ericsson.se (Marten.Sahlen) writes:
>For a quiz I need the answer on the following: When (exact date) is the
>forthcoming Stone Roses record due for release in England?

	That's going to be quite a difficult quiz. Here's a few more questions
you could add:

	Who wrote the Bible?

	Who killed JFK?
	
	etc...

	
	They haven't announced any dates or anything... last I heard they
had submitted a demo tape to their new record label, Geffen, but it was
rejected!  So it may be awhile yet... oh well, I figure there's at least
5 more songs from their debut that Silvertone hasn't posthumously issued 
singles from yet. 

	Brian
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: FREE TRIBE CONCERT B^) .....WAY COOL!!!!
From: dchou@husc8.harvard.edu (David Chou)
Date: 15 Aug 92 23:57:40 GMT
Keywords: FREE FREE FREE

So folx around Boston, what did you think of the concert?
I thought that the Cliffs were pretty darn good.  Of course, I really
came to see Tribe, who were rocking at first; however, it was hard to 
concentrate on the band when I had to watch my head to make sure that 
some body surfing dude didn't land on my head :)  Nonetheless, a great 
show, with Janet in that black outfit dancing her slo-motion dervishes.  
I'm nearsighted, but from what I could see, she was a babe :)  Anyone
out there recommend their album "Abort"?  Like I said, I found it
hard to concentrate on their music after awhile.  

							-Dave

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From: MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (M.A. Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Killing Joke sues Nirvana
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:37:05 GMT
 <168489593.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu>
Organization: University of Maine System

In article <168489593.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu>, EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu says:
>
>In article <1992Aug18.125905.16407@wam.umd.edu>
>loffit@wam.umd.edu (Dixie Cup) writes:
>
>I think they both ripped off the bassline from Psych Fur's _India_.
>Or maybe PIL's _Theme_?
>Or Led Zepplin's _Communication Breakdown_? ;-) naww!

Which Led Zep, in turn, 'borrowed' from some obscure 1920s or 1930s
blues artist, etc, etc.
-------

                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

If you do not understand my silence
you will not understand my words.
From: corky@coos.dartmouth.edu (Jeffrey J. Middents)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: TMBG at Dartmouth!!!
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:11:20 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

i just got back from a perfectly fabulous concert by they might be giants here
at dartmouth in nowheresville, more commonly known as hanover, nh!! we must be
one of the few colleges who have a real summer session, like where at least
an entire class year is taking classes at once, so that must have been why they
decided to perform here. not only was it a great concert BUT...

they also dissed the review!!!

during one of their encores, they stopped and said, "by the way, we were
approached by members of the dartmouth review and they gave us some free
t-shirts. we'd just like to publicly say that we will NOT be wearing them."

this, of course, led to an uproarious cheer from the audience. there is
justice in the world and it is they might be giants.

watching the lion take control,
jeff
--
-jeffrey j. middents-------------------------------------------------------
--corky@coos.dartmouth.edu-------------------------------------------------
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From: wcsvic@alfred.carleton.ca (Victor Kamutzki)
Subject: Re: what is SHONEN KNIFE
Keywords: SHONEN KNIFE
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:14:52 GMT

scrotch@milton.u.washington.edu (Lou Ciphre) writes:

>Anybody know anything about this band from japan called Shonen Knife?
>What do they sound like, for instance?

Punky guitar pop with annoyingly cute vocals.
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