From: Zhang Yun Fei <zhang@BU-AST.BU.EDU>
Subject:      Re:  Open reply to a friend
Reply-To: Zhang Yun Fei <zhang@BU-AST.BU.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:29:54 GMT
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.bitnet

Great, dear Lix, your post really deserves a place in history book (maybe this
is what you wanted no matter it is notorious or respectful). Actually, I am
glad to see your post as it effectively solved quite a few puzzles for me,
from your dramatic play of "hunger strike" in June of 1991, (though many netter
fellows may only hear/be concerned this drama remotely, I, as the person
who was asked to handle that drama by you and individuals befriended
knew quite a few bizarre developments during this drama), to your
interesting reactions during the lobby of 1992 protection bill and lately
on the Raymond Luh events, first worry about yourself being involved and then,
when hear the partial conclusion of the investigation, becomes a born-again
fierce fighter. As you seem not like the word "D-fighter" much, your will shall
be respected. I will reserve the word "Not-A-D-fighter" for you (as you seem
more fightingful than most of D-fighters, I have no way to drop the
word "fighter", sorry for that)

Now, as my last response to your "famous" post, I will answer a few questions
you asked about. However, do not be too worried as I will not post any thing
after this because I realized that it is not worth my time. You could regard
my post as personal attack to you as you wish. I will take the responsibility
for whatever I said (but not what you quoted me like those deleted -- and t
hen "thoughtfully" summarized -- paragraphs by you)

Now, let's see what you have said and asked? However, I will put my signature
first as I do not want to draw glory from your wonderful "thoughts". The
comment/answer are mine.

Yun Fei Zhang
(12/13/92)
P.S. I have spelling-checked my writing here so save your time not to peck the
     spelling like you did to Mr. JHL's post as any remaining spelling problem
     will be the spelling-checkers not mine:-).

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##From: Xiaowen Li <lix@CRSA.BU.EDU>
##Subject:      Open reply to a friend
##A netter friend wrote to me:
##>> (deleted, ... I said) : I just made some D-fighters
##>> very nervous -- Have you seen their personal attack on me? I did not
##> bother to reply yet, let it cool down.
##>
##>    Yes, I am wondering why you have not counterattacked.
##

Look at it, our dear Not-A-D-fighters are so fluent in fighting terminology:-)
does not not. Their choice shall be respected:-)

##Sorry friend, I am replying openly without your consent. I did not reply
##because at the first place, my words may be very offensive:
##
##"Shame on you, small report maker(s)"!!!
##

Quote a word from Mr. Bo Xiong on the related topic.
"Agreed, And add one more:
Shame on you, who love China FROM ABROAD ONLY!"

Do not be nervous about it if you do not have to. However, you may paranoid:-).

##
##Another funny but sad response was from <zhang@BU-AST.BU.EDU>, he said:
##>I am really surprised by the following poster made by Mr. Lix. Seems
##>a martyr or hero is in the making. Please do not.
##
##Well I did not, did I ? :-)
##
##>Especially please do not use one tiny event to mix with the whole picture.
##
##It is tiny to you and me, but his wife and two kids may not think so.
##
##>As a veteran on the netters, my distaste for your heroic friend is...
##>(why he distastes ignored, rationality of small report deleted)

Please keep in mind that all posts on the China-NT are archived when you are
tempted to make "summarization" like this one. Those archives will say "truth"
and only "truth":-). I will not take responsibility
for someone else who quoted me in this way, whether mistakenly
or delibrately. Also keep in mind that your netter fellows are at least
as intelligent as you are, so play around more carefully
and more "thoughtfully" in the future.

##>
##> (deleted) it is beyond the imagination,
##>at least for me,that CG's National Security Bureau would inform the "victim"
##>of their investigation:-).
##
##Well, your poor imagination may be because you have no father, no friends,
##may be, not sure. Anyway, try not to betray friends, well, a friend of mine,
##maybe a friend of you also, met you and me in your apartment a few weeks ago.
##Are you accusing him lying?  IFCSS is collecting reports about harrasement of
##CG to CSS's family, your poor imagination is certainly not helpful for this
##purpose.

I am sure you had a father and will not try to convince you otherwise. However,
please do not be paranoid like this. It might be too much even for your own
good unless you have good reason to be worried to this extent.

As for the conversation happened in my apartment a few weeks ago, I have
nothing more to say to the public, as the involved person does not live in U.S.
and is not well protected like what you are enjoying now.
However, an advice to you, by you own words: "try not to betray friends"! even
when you desperately need ammunition to punch your enemies. By the way, just
for curiosity, when you visited my apartment in that evening, what you have
in mind? visiting an acquaintance's place or spying at an enemy's house?
Again, this is for curiosity only, please do not be paranoid nor be nervous
about it. I do not care in either way, you are free to choice
whatever you like to act on.

##
##I am not interested in fighting fighters:-)  I am afraid of them, either
##D-fighters or P-fighters. But because of hiden accusation to me, I had to
##say a few words, sorry about that.
##

As I said before, I will avoid any discussion with you,
our deal Not-A-D-fighter, from now on for the reason I stated before.
So be rest assured that you will have the monopoly (and therefore could do
lectures instead of fighting --- a much easy job).
On the other hand, although our fearful Not-A-D-fighter(s) will keep working
for quite a while, I will try my best to pursuad others to keep the China-NT
as an useful channel for exchanging ideas among CSS community.
With the notorious record of Mr. Raymond Luh
who effectively turned the Soc.culture.china into a garbage dumping place,
I will suggest you not to do the same to the China-NT, although you could
still keep admire your dear fellow Mr. Raymond Luh.

Also, please keep in mind that the line about the June 4 massacre can not
be re-drawn, no matter how hard it is tried by individuals like Mr. Raymond Luh
and a few others.
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