HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle)
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 06:57:37 GMT
Organization:  I didn't do it, nobody saw me do it, you can't prove anything!

smith@canon.co.uk (Mark Smith) writes:
>tyger@netcom.com (Kitty in the Middle) writes:
>> nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
>>>
>>> Uh?  Is this some private group?  If you want it to be private, to meet
>>> the needs of a specific group, use a mailing list.  If you want it to
>>> be public (and Usenet/Altnet are public by definition) then you can't
>>> just create things on a whim - there are other people to consider.
>> It's not a private group, but it addresees a specific interest, namely the
>> shows that make up the Disney Afternoon and related topics such as the 
>> competition and merchandise pertaining to these shows.
>
>You aren't by any chance already on the existing "Disney Afternoon"
>mailing list are you?  

Yes, as a matter of fact, I am...is there some point to this inquiry?

>You know, the list that's apparently too much hassle to maintain, and is 
>therefore being replaced by a "specific interest" low-hassle worldwide 
>newsgroup.

Well, I'm not the person that handles the mailing list, so I wouldn't
know what sort of work is involved, but as I do happen to know that there
are quite a few subscribers, I can imagine that it might get to be a bit
much to deal with along with other administrative duties. Personally, I
may drop the mailing list and just post to the newsgroup as 23 articles
are much more easily dealt with than 23 mail messages. 

People here are acting as if Stephanie is holding a knife to their throats
and saying "You WILL carry this newsgroup on your system!!", which just
isn't the case. If you or others don't want it at their sites, don't create
it there...what's the issue? 

>Just curious.

Hope this clears things up...

>Mark Smith 

  Tyger

PS: Show of hands: How many sites that are protesting a.f.d.a carry
    alt.fan.tiny-toons? alt.fan.ren-n-stimpy? 

    Just curious.


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From: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu (Multi-Tasking Man)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.comics.lnh (bad name!)
Date: 16 Sep 92 03:11:27 GMT
Reply-To: jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: The Ghost Of Christmas Past Society
Originator: jecoleb@c00508-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu


Hmm, now I'm confused.

twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>>all in totally different hierarchies.  I don't suppose that we
>>could convince everybody to switch over to an alt.creative hierarcy or
>>something?

>Even if that were possible, what for?  What connections exist between
>these four groups (besides the incidental quality of encouraging
>role playing of sorts) that would justify the effort of moving them
>under the same hierarchy.

I read this as saying that the four (alt.callahans, alt.pub.dragons-inn,
alt.comics.lnh, alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo) don't have enough in common to
warrant being grouped together under one hierarchy.

But then he says...

>Alt.pub.dragons-inn was originally newgrouped without warning as
>alt.dragons-inn, but was shortly thereafter re-newgrouped as
>"alt.pub.dragons-inn" and the original group seems to have been either
>deleted or aliased to the new one at most sites.  The idea was that
>the next time someone came up with this idea, it could be placed under
>the "alt.pub" hierarchy, which would be ostensibly be used for any
>such electronic gathering-place. 

I read THIS as saying that alt.comics.lnh should be alt.pub.something.

Er... somehow I agree more with your first statement.  Perhaps I just don't
know enough about dragons-inn, but the concept of a.c.lnh seems a lot
more akin to alt.cyber.chat (creative fiction) than to a pub-like
atmosphere ala alt.callahans.  (And, yes, I've posted to both groups.)

>If only the same had been done with alt.comics.lnh, which seems more and
>more to have an astonishingly poor name.

Ouch!  That's a bit harsh.  Perhaps the .lnh is not perfectly clear (not
exactly an alt. first), but there is an existing alt.comics hierarchy,
and since that IS the primary focus of the group--comic-book style fiction,
not a superheroic Callahan's (no slam on Callahan's or dragons-inn 
intended), that would seem to be where it belongs more than alt.pub.*.

Besides, if it's THAT bad, may I have a suggestion as to what it SHOULD be?
You'll have to talk me out of alt.comics.something, but the last portion seems
open to debate. 

Meanwhile, alt.comics.lnh is starting to get traffic, so if suggestions are
to be made as to what it SHOULD be, please make 'em soon.

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.fan.disney.afternoon
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 19:19:35 GMT

In article <=xy1Hh=&h9@atlantis.psu.edu> barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
> 
> Oh, so you're saying that it applies to Disney movies, but only if they
> are shown in the afternoon?  And if I read a Disney book, I can talk
> about it there if i read it in the afternoon?

Maybe you're not familiar with the term "Disney Afternoon."  It describes
a block of afternoon programming, usually (but not always) shown in the 3pm 
to 5pm time slot.
And anything relevent is game for discussion.  If a Disney Afternoon episode
has a movie reference in it, then yes, that movie is appropriate for discussion.
Even non-DA programming is relevent.  A big topic is how Batman has been
put into the Fox slot opposite Goof Troop in many markets (and in markets
where FOX had the DA, then Goof Troop got bumped into a different time slot)
and so there's a competition there.  So discussion of Batman is relevent.

> It doesn't belong under alt.tv, not because "Disney Afternoon involves
> considerably more than just the tv shows", but because _Disney_ involves 
> much more than just tv shows.  (consider groups such as
> alt.fan.disney.movies, alt.fan.disney.theme-park, alt.fan.disney.books)

But you're grouping us because it's a Disney thing.  I think the fact that
Disney produces these shows is incidental.  We're not necessarily fans of
Disney, we're fans of these shows that happen to be produced by Disney and
happen to be (mostly) shown in the afternoon.
Besides, this is the alt heirarchy so it doesn't really matter.  <wink>
From: ggw@duke.cs.duke.edu (Gregory G. Woodbury)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.herbalism - FOGERIES!
Summary: FORGERY ALERT!
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:13:35 GMT
Reply-To: news@wolves.durham.nc.us
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

The article, <1992Sep8.1651506.21803@wolves.uucp>, to which you are replying
is a forgery!    It did NOT originate at wolves!

Will folks please email me the headers from this article so that it can be
traced!

			Greg "Wolfe" Woodbury
-- 
Gregory G. Woodbury, System Programmer, Duke Center for Demographic Studies
<standard disclaimers apply>  ggw@cds.duke.edu | ggw@cs.duke.edu
also at The Wolves Den and other sites.   (...!duke!wolves!ggw)
[The Line Eater is a Boojum snark!]
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.herbalism
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:21:14 GMT
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Sep09.120814.13732@eng.umd.edu> 
 georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>This same person overseeing the creation of the newsgroup, disagreed
>with my posted opinion, and then began an inflammatory dialog filled
>with vulgar language.

You're new to the net, aren't you?

>Thanks in advance for any constructive feedback you may care to offer.

Sure.  Drop it.  Wolfe runs his own site.  If you care to try to get
him "fired" from his own site, feel free, but don't babble to alt.config
about it.

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: zane@ddsw1.mcs.com (Sameer Parekh)
Subject: Newgroup: alt.society.free-journal
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 02:34:35 GMT
X-Disclaimer:  Material posted in this article is the sole responsibility of
                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.


	I'd like to start the newsgroup alt.society.free-journal for USENET
distribution of the newsletter of the Partnership for a Free America,
namely, _The Free Journal_.
	I will newgroup in a few days if there are no substantial objections.
	
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: ewing@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Martin Ewing)
Subject: Re: alt.rachel.weenie
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Keywords: weenie weenie weenie
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 21:13:21 GMT
X-Posted-From: minerva.cis.yale.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <Bu5KzI.BDx@world.std.com> bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum) writes:
>In article <1992Sep5.223506.9926@ctr.columbia.edu> ewing@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Martin Ewing) writes:
>>
>>
>>I call for the creation of alt.rachel.weenie, because she is pissing me off.
>>She butts her nose in everyone else's business and I'm sick and tired of it.
>>Rachel, get a life, rent a clue, and fuck a cat!
>>
>Speaking of "rent a clue", there's already an alt.carasso newsgroup (several
>actually).  What we really need is a sort of meta-killfile for news software,
>which will automatically delete newgroups issued by selected individuals.
>
>
>
No, you donUt understand.  I know exactly what I AM DOING.  I am Martin!
This Bitch is pissing me off and I want her dead.  Do you hear me, dead!
Get her the fuck off this planet.  Yale is behind me 100% on this!  Rachel
Christy is a menace to our existence.  I am perfectly sane, and I KNOW
what should be done.  We all know it, so letUs do it.  Fuck alt.rachel.weenie,
make it alt.nuke.the.fuck.out.of.rachel!!!!  

Furthermore, there is no way in hell I need to rent-a-clue.  I own everyoneUs
fucking clues, ok!  Now just create the damn group!

Martin

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL:  alt.comics.lnh
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:59:17 GMT

Hi, I'm one of the official keepers of the lnh roster as well as 
sorta the informal archivist, I think that alt.comics.lnh is a great
idea.  In this final month of r.a.c.  LNH posts have made up of at least
50% of the posts each day.
Also I think that a.c.lnh is the right name for it(sorry dave) since it
would be listed in the r.a.c.* FAQ and really it's aimed at the comics
crowd.

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From: sanelson@milton.u.washington.edu (S. A. Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.architecture
Date: 12 Sep 92 04:29:49 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Why post to alt.postmodern? Anyone interested in architecture could
have no interest in postmodernism.
Xref: sparky alt.config:5556 rec.arts.tv:17467 alt.tv.northern-exp:48
From: bur@ultisol.gsfc.nasa.gov (MAC)
Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: The charter for alt.tv.northern-exp
Summary: Creation of a newsgroup for the TV show Northern Exposure.
Date: 8 Sep 92 05:02:07 GMT
Followup-To: alt.tv.northern-exp
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA/GSFC code 923



[Here is the charter that I initially included with the newgroup.  It
 did not show up at my site(other than control) and I am unsure if the 
 message portion was seen anywhere outside of control.  Sorry if you
 have seen this.]


Alt.tv.northern-exp is an unmoderated newsgroup for discussing the CBS
TV series Northern Exposure.  As mentioned in the original proposal
by Ian Chesterton(skippy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu) the group will
cover episode guides; discussion on actors, books, episodes, music, quotes,
scripts, videos and any NEXP related topics that come up.  In addition,
talk about other Falsey and Brand (the producers of NEXP, I'll Fly Away,
and Going to Extremes) shows will be permitted but should be kept to a
minimum.

For the newsgroups file:
alt.tv.northern-exp		Discussion of the TV series Northern Exposure


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From: as_radfo@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (AS Radford)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.herbalism
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:13:02 GMT
Organization: Bristol Polytechnic, England


Yes. Good idea.  Go for it!

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: Re: alt.rachel.weenie
Keywords: weenie weenie weenie
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 15:17:30 GMT

bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum) writes:

>In article <1992Sep5.223506.9926@ctr.columbia.edu> ewing@minerva.cis.yale.edu (Martin Ewing) writes:
>>
>>
>>I call for the creation of alt.rachel.weenie, because she is pissing me off.
>>She butts her nose in everyone else's business and I'm sick and tired of it.
>>Rachel, get a life, rent a clue, and fuck a cat!
>>
>Speaking of "rent a clue", there's already an alt.carasso newsgroup (several
>actually).  What we really need is a sort of meta-killfile for news software,
>which will automatically delete newgroups issued by selected individuals.


well..some one then should go out and delete all the dumb ones.
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From: rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.tv.nick-at-nite
Date: 12 Sep 1992 21:27:17 GMT

In article <BuH7qw.6yE@world.std.com>, bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum) writes:
> In article <HROSE.92Sep11161448@rocza.eff.org> hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:
> 
> Why not alt.tv.classic?

What happened to the proposal to divide rec,arts.tv into 'classic' and 'current'
or something along that line? It's a good split and helps divide traffic along
interest lines.


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Xref: sparky alt.config:5796 alt.rock-n-roll:15863 alt.music.progressive:2442 rec.music.misc:23454
From: bobn@hawkwind.central.Sun.COM (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.progressive,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: COUNTERPROPOSAL: alt.music.<insert favorite group here>
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:40:49 GMT
Reply-To: Bob.Netherton@dallas.Central.Sun.COM
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article <1992Sep15.190757.25691@cunews.carleton.ca>, wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:
|> 
|> Why is everyone going so nuts trying to create a newsgroup for
|> every band that exists?

This is a common Usenet malady.  If I really like something then I
need to create a newsgroup for it.  Wrong !  New groups should
occur when (1) traffic dictates it (2) the scope is too wide
[ like comp.sys - can you imagine just a single newsgroup ] or
(3) it is a new topic that has not previously existed and doesn't
fit too well in the existing groups [like alt.binaries.sounds].
 
|> Personally, I think it's completely moronic to segregate all
|> these bands. I like to keep up on all facets of progressive
|> music, and that includes Marillion (unless we get another HiE from
|> them). I don't want to have to subscribe to 30 newsgroups.

I agree.  I think it was a little silly to break out progressive
metal.  Look at the traffic, almost nothing.

|> My system won't even let me access the damn peter hamill newsgroup,
|> so that's already been cut out!

That is the reason that we should not do this.  Propagation of alt
groups is not guaranteed and we shouldn't do anything that would result
in loss of access to any readers (like Anil here with the Peter Hamill
situation).  If you have something to say about Marillion, do it here.
Some of us are interested and most of us are polite enough to ignore
those things in which we are not interested :-)

|> 
|> If anything, we need an alt.music.rennaisance!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Most definitely :-)

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From: cd073@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ronald F. Bollschweiler)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: NEXP: creation of alt.tv.nexp (Northern Exposure)
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:29:21 GMT
Reply-To: cd073@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ronald F. Bollschweiler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu




IMHO, This is a great idea.

-Ron.
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: newgroup alt.planetary.science
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 08:14:54 GMT

knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp) writes:

>Charter would be the same as was posted for sci.space.planets several 
>times in sci.space. The charter will be reposted if/when this group is created.
>The creation will/would be announced in pertinent groups.


I think a better name would be:		alt.science.planetary

To allow for other alt.science groups to be established as necessary.

MD
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From: jem@sunsite.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL for group "alt.cesium"
Date: 5 Sep 92 17:44:06 GMT
Reply-To: jem@sunsite.unc.edu
Organization: University of North Carolina/Chapel Hill

In article lllowen@netcom.com, lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen) writes:
>I am proposing the creation of the newsgroup alt.cesium.  
>The discussion group CESIUM originally started as a small group of college
>students at the University of Michigan.  It was known to stand for
>(C)ollege (E)ducated (S)tudents (I)n (U)niversal (M)ainland, but has since
>dropped its acronym to take on a larger meaning.  <The acronym before that
>used to end with (U)niversity of (M)ichigan, but CESIUM growth has broadened
>members beyond just one school.>,

If you decide to create this group, I'd like to suggest a name like
alt.org.cesium; not only will this prevent more crowding of the first
level of the name space, it would give people some idea what the group is
for...

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From: djredick@bluemoon.use.com (Darrin J. Redick)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Quantum Leap "Genesis"
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:11:46 GMT
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])

Well, from what I saw of it, it was uncut.  What I didn't like, though,
was USA installing what I believe was the 3rd season intro at the 
beginning of it, instead of leaving the original intact.  I've got the
tape of it when it was first broadcast, and can do a deeper comparison,
so right now I'm going from memory.

As broadcast Sunday night, IF MEMORY SERVES, it was uncut.


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From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.architecture
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:19:33 GMT
Followup-To: alt.config
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

Since architecture is such a good subject for a newsgroup, why restrict it
to alt?  I think it would pass easily as sci.architecture.... a little
more legwork, but it'd be worth it.

Greg
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From: ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz")
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.architecture
Date: 12 Sep 92 19:21:22 GMT
Organization: University of Strathclyde

I am an architectural student. For myself and for some fellow reasearchers,
an alt.architecture is a wellcome news.
We hope there will be enough support for the creation of alt.architecture 
group.
Regards,

I. Ballouz

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