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From: tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Character ages
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:59:58 GMT
Reply-To: ailanth!tallman@wang.com (Robert Oliver)
Organization: Ailanthus Project

Excuse my ignorance but exactly how old are the people of the 24th 
century supposed to live to?  120, 150, 170????And what are the ages of 
the crew of the Enterprise?For that matter what what about all the 
different races - I mean Vulcansclearly seem to live over 200 years.
 
These ages are current as of 2369 (season 6) and use 2270-2272 as the 
dates for TOS.
 
NAME: Pavel Andreivich Chekov
AGE: [119] assumming that he is still alive
BIRTH DATE: 2250
SOURCE: "Who Mourns For Adonis"
 
NAME: Beverly Crusher
AGE: 45
BIRTH DATE: 2324
SOURCE: "Conundrum" Okudagram
 
NAME: Wesley R. Crusher
AGE: 20
BIRTH DATE: 2349
SOURCE: "Coming of Age"
 
NAME: Data
AGE: 31 (since discovery) he is probably a little bit older depending on 
when he was built
BIRTH DATE: Discovered by USS Tripoli in 2338
SOURCE: "Datalore"
 
NAME: Guinan
AGE: 500 - 700
BIRTH DATE: Unknown
SOURCE: "Time's Arrow" and "Rascals"
 
NAME: James Tiberius Kirk
AGE: [137] assumming that he is still alive
BIRTH DATE: 2237
SOURCE: "The Deadly Years"
 
NAME: Geordi LaForge
AGE / BIRTH DATE: Unknown
 
NAME: Leonard H. McCoy 
AGE: 142
BIRTH DATE: 2227
SOURCE: "Encounter at Farpoint"
 
NAME: Miles Edward O'Brien
AGE: 40 (estimate)
BIRTH DATE: Unknown
SOURCE: "Realm of Fear" - has been operating transportrs for 22 years (SF 
Academy?)
 
NAME: Jean-Luc Picard
AGE: 64
BIRTH DATE: July 13, 2305
SOURCE: "Conundrum" Okudagram and "The First Duty" (SF Acad graduation)
 
NAME: Katherine Pulaski
AGE / BIRTH DATE: Unknown
 
NAME: William T. Riker
AGE: 34?
BIRTH DATE: 2335?
SOURCE: Can't remember where I got this from
 
NAME: Ro Laren
AGE: 29
BIRTH DATE: January 14, 2340
SOURCE: "Conundrum" Okudagram
 
NAME: Sarek (deceased 2368)
AGE: 199
BIRTH DATE: 2169
SOURCE: "Journey to Babel" and "Sarek"
 
NAME: Montgomery Scott
AGE: 72 (147) trapped in transporter stasis for 75 years
BIRTH DATE: 2222
SOURCE: "Relics"
 
NAME: Spock
AGE / BIRTH DATE: Unknown
 
NAME: Hikaru Sulu
AGE / BIRTH DATE: Unknown
 
NAME: Deanna Troi
AGE: 33
BIRTH DATE: March 29, 2336
SOURCE: "Conundrum" Okudagram
 
NAME: Nyota Uhura
AGE / BIRTH DATE: Unknown
 
NAME: Worf
AGE / BIRTH DATE: Unknown
 
NAME Natasha Yar
AGE / BIRTH DATE: Unknown

........
Robert Oliver, tallman%ailanth.uucp@wang.com
via Ailanthus Project +1 207-989-6562 - Brewer, Maine.
........
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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: Rascals -- Fountain of Youth!
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 00:05:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.215555.24709@zip.eecs.umich.edu> charles@zip.eecs.u
ich.edu (Charles Jacob Cohen) writes:
>In article <1drpf6INN46h@aludra.usc.edu> efranqui@aludra.usc.edu (Eduard
 Franqui Jr.) writes:
>>I think the human race has finally found the fountain of youth.  If you
 old,
>>just take a trip through the transporter and become young again.  Hell,
it
>>can be used for covert missions.  Imagine, sneak into someplace as a ki
, get
>>the informaton and come back.  They'll turn you back into an adult in n
 time
>>and trouble at all.  Think of the possibilities, no one has to die anym
re!!
>>
>
>I'm glad someone else noticed this.  The federation now has the ability
>to make everyone young.  You never have to die of old age, just pop some
ne
>into the transporter and take out that RNA or whatever.  Take out the 
>correct ammount and you are a young adult.  Ugh. - Chuck
>
>
>-- 
>"I do not feel obliged to believe that same God who endowed us with sens
,
>reason, and intellect, had intended for us to forgo their use." - Galile

>"I'm an engineer, not a dictionary!" - Me


People, they do NOT!!! have the fountain of youth.  The RVN deple-
tion was caused by an ACCIDENT.  It took the special action of that 
strange cloud to remove the RVN from their cells.  Since the Fed-
eration doesn't have such clouds around at the appropriate times,
I doubt that this could be reproduced.  It's an accident, a fluke.

--
Chris Meadows // CHM173S@SMSVMA // CMEADOWS@NYX.CS.DU.EDU
   "If blood be the price of admiralty, then I've just bought me 
    a naval commission."  -- Corwin, SIGN OF THE UNICORN, Roger Zelazny
From: norbert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy James)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Fist full of data's force field question
Date: 16 Nov 1992 17:33:15 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <Bxpwq0.E7z@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Richard Lamb) writes:
>Ok if the only problem with Worf's force lasting forever was the energy
>then why can't the ship's security team rig up a bunch of personal
>fields. Have them automatated to only turn on when fired upon. Let a
>phaser like thing power them. Why not. If Worf can rig it surely a real
>engineer could pull it off. (I'm not trying to be racist against Worf
>so any Klingons out there don't flame me).


I thought the same thing...then realized that not to many
races in the ST universe use projectile weapons...

The force field is great against a bullet, but
a phaser shot would probably blow right through...

-- 
--------------
Timothy James McInerney 
tmcinern@feds26.Prime.com    "I wanna decide who lives 
norbert@wpi.wpi.edu           and who dies"  - Crow
From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Subject: Re: CONCATENATED CRITIQUES: TRUE-Q, A FISTFUL OF DATAS, QUALITY OF LIFE
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:55:54 GMT

In article <rawdon.722489057@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <1992Nov22.203500.29096@u.washington.edu> gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang) writes:
>>	OVERALL GRADES:
>Well, those are all perhaps slightly higher grades than I would have given
>them (and, indeed, DID give them), but...

	Well, yes....but then again, some of us are more easily amused
than others....


>>	About THE QUALITY OF LIFE...
>>	I liked this show. Unfortunately, I should have REALLY liked this
>>show..
>>	Like TRUE-Q, this show had a very workable premise marred by ham-handed
>>craftsmanship in building climaxes. Forget about the crap about this
>>episode copying HOME SOIL and EVOLUTION; that's something only True Fans
>>really worry about. Determining life and sentience is something that is
>>part and parcel of the Big-E's mission, and it's understandable that new
>>shows may somewhat cover what's been done before. The REAL question is whether
>>it's done BETTER.
>This show did a lot more than "somewhat cover what's been done before"; it
>trod not just the same ground, but almost the same footsteps.  Mechanical/
>electronic creatures, who are able to improve upon their basic design, and
>this leads to self-awareness.  Same stuff as "Evolution".  And then we have
>the "Are they alive or aren't they alive" discussions - same stuff as "The
>Measure Of A Man".  Barely even any variation on the themes.  It's all old.

	Hmmm?  The point wasn't the determination of life; the point was
in >DATA's< determination of life. Admittedly, the point was hammered in
rather unsubtly in the denoument...then again, a lot of people DID miss is...

	The exocomps are the MacGuffin...the story hinges around the
characters' reactions to them.  And in this respect, QUALITY OF LIFE was
substantially better than HOME SOIL and EVOLUTION.

>Maybe only "true fans" worry about this stuff, but, well, I guess only "true
>fans" worry about some of the subtler details of Shakespeare.  To the common
>man, it just ain't useful, is that what you're saying, Roger?
>
>So be it.  Let's toss "Romeo And Juliet" out of the curriculum and have
>everyone read "West Side Story".  That should be enough for those who aren't
>"true fans".

	Well, sure, if you're at the Bernstein and Sondheim School of
American musicals....




-- 
Roger Tang, gwangung@u.washington.edu
Producer Emeritus, Asian Theatre at the UW
	"The definition of balls is for a non-singer to go karaoke singing
with the cast of a musical revue."
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:47:35 EST
From: Jeffrey S. Payne <JSP6@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: More Transporter Questions
 <gp2001-171192020853@m248-112.bgsu.edu> <92322.100541JSP6@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <216@io.trident.datasys.swri.edu>

In article <216@io.trident.datasys.swri.edu>, johns@trident.datasys.swri.edu
(Stephen Johns) says:

>I definately do not have the ST Tech Manual.  But, I do have some questions
>about the transporters.  Please correct me if I am wrong on any of these
>assumptions.

Ok, before we start...do we all remember how to spell ass-u-me?

>To transport:
>   1 convert matter to energy, remember pattern.

First mistake...matter is converted to a matter stream

>   2 send pattern and energy to the other transporter.

Matter Stream

>   3 other transporter uses pattern to recreate matter from energy.

>Questions:
>   1 Why bother sending the energy?  Why not use local energy?
>   2 Continuing from 1, if you keep the pattern around can you make
>         alot of the person transporting?  i.e. if someone dies, why not
>         make another one from their last transporter trace?  Or make
>         duplicates for really dangerous missions in the first place?
>         (They did reconstitute Picard in "Lonely Among Us.")

This is all based on your first assumption, which was the matter was
changed to energy.  It could be argued that a person can only be
recreated with their own matter...this brings up the question what makes
a person "alive"...

>   3 Point to Point transportation.  Don't you NEED a receiver to
>         "reconsistute" the transportee?  What converts the energy beamed
>         to some arbitrary point back into matter?

What really happens (to my understanding) is Site to Site transport is
actually 2 transports, one from whereever to the transporter room..then
one from the transporter to the new site, WITHOUT rematerializing in
the actual transporter room...the matter stream just "passes through"
This clears up questions of why use the Transporter room at all...
it "saves a step"

>:)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)
>This is SF, and personally, I am content with the answer "It's in the script."
>  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  :)  )

That is, by far, my favorite theory

BTW...this is discussed in much detail in the FAQ for r.a.s.tech...

Jeff Payne
Penn State Ogontz Campus              |Bitnet:   JSP6@PSUVM
Computer Assisted Learning Center     |Internet: payne@toto.oz.psu.edu
"What else have you done? Telekinesis? Teleportation? Spontaneous
 combustion of someone you don't like? That sort of thing..."
       -Q to Amanda in "True Q", ST-TNG
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From: jhands@eng.clemson.edu (Matt Hands)
Subject: Fistfull and Westworld
Reply-To: jhands@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:26:39 GMT


Did anyone sit there and hope Pa Hollinder was bald?  All I could think of was that
he looked a lot like Yul Brenner as the renegade andriod from the old movie
"Westworld."

By the way, does anyone just enjoy watching ST:TNG anymore?  I get the impression
that everyone hates the show.  Let's start talking more about the positive aspects
of the show and quit concentrating of the negatives.
From: v070p6nd@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Anthos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Communicators?
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:49:00 GMT
Organization: SUNY at Beefalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov18.210748.11797@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, nieboer@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Doctor Gonzo) writes...
>Maybe this has been asked and answered long ago, BUT: how could those
>damn communicators work?
> 
>Let's assume Riker is contacting Geordi. Riker hits his communicator 
>and says "Riker to LaForge". So how is it, that before Riker mentions
>any name, the message is instantly relayed to Geordi and Geordi alone?
>There's no lag, at least not enough for the computer to hear "to LaForge"
>and work out who it's going to.....
>I guess what I'm saying is, unless the computer is telepathic, there's just
>no way those damn things could work, even with all that technology.
> 
My impression was that, since there is enough of a lag AFTER the person calls
before the person responds, the computer samples the voice of the caller and
plays back the sample to the one being called.  You hear the sampled voice
on the receiving end.  This would allow the communicators to work (I guess)

Just MHO.

Anthos
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From: Chrys Pelegris <chrysp@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Star Trek VII???
X-To: MICHAEL ROSEN
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:59:03 GMT

MR>Please forgive me if this has already been discussed, but I've seen no
  >mention of it...

MR>I saw on AOL that Majel Barrett confirmed, at a west coast convention,
  >that Paramount has given the go ahead on Star Trek VII.  Is there any

  They supposedly signed the final contract a week or so ago.. (P'mount).

  >truth to this?  Supposedly it would start filming in April, to be
  >released Summer '94.  Leonard Nimoy is supposed to be involved, Picard
  >will be seen in some way as a young boy I believe...

MR>Does anybody have any concrete facts on this?

    I seriously doubt Picard will be shown in that movie.. (I hope not..)

    From what I've heard, Nimoy signed a contract after TUC that any movies
    afterwards (be it TOS or TNG), _he_ would direct.

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From: dp66@mc4adm.UWaterloo.ca (Kevin L. Oberle)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG has gone down the toilet!
Summary: My two cents!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:10:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.150625.5654@desire.wright.edu> dstuart@desire.wright.edu writes:
>	ST:TNG has finally lost all creativity.
>                       ===> much whining deleted <===
>       I'm finished, Flame at will.
>					STU

Man, I'm so tired of all the postings that grumble about TNG.  If you
no longer enjoy the show, then don't watch.  If you *must* still watch
it, then accept the fact that you probably won't enjoy it, and stop
complaining about it over these newsgroups.  They're for people who
are enthusiasts of ST, or so that was the original intention.  I still
enjoy TNG, and I don't want to have to read even the negative subject
headings anymore.
  
Could the powers that be in the rec.arts.startrek universe please 
create a new group, something like rec.arts.startrek.bitch&complain,
to give these people their own forum, and get them out of our life?
 
 "...and also on the list of things considered 'out' for 1993,
     is that TNG bashing is no longer in fashion..."
-- 
Kevin                                          dp66@watdcs.UWaterloo.ca
From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Fistful of Datas is anything but like "Fistful of Dollars"
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:54:02 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1e9p5mINN2ua@mozz.unh.edu> R_BURNS@unhh.unh.edu (Robert   Burns) writes:
>
>
>	I have no idea why 'Fistful of Datas' was named such, except for the

	IT'S A PUN!!!!  A JOKE!!! NOTHING MORE AND NOTHING LESS!!!  THAT'S
ALL!!!

>	1.  Worf somehow creates a phaser-proof shield, in accordance with the 

	No, a bullet-proof shield.

>Needless to say, though, on the whole, the episode was comical and
entertaining. Forgive me if I sound like a whiner, it's just that I'm a great
>fan of the Leone westerns, and hate to see their names tarnished.

	There was no tarnish; the name "A Fistful of Datas" was just a joke,
one of many in the show.

							-Jay

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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Subject: Deanna's smoking attempt
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:41:49 GMT

Marina Sirtis was NOT smoking in that episode...all she did was hold the
smoke in her mouth, she never inhaled (no relation to Clinton).  It is
really noticable when she blows the smoke into Worf's face because
as she begins to exhale, the smoke is already whisping out of her mouth.
If you have it on tape, watch it closely and see.

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From: pirmann@athos.rutgers.edu (David Pirmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Exo-comps or Tater Tots
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:10:09 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University LCSR


>Marie Cannizzaro (C14383@maccvm.corp.mot.com) wrote:
>> These cute little devices reminded me of space prunes, tater tots
>>or some twentieth century version of the Hamburglers sidekicks. MC



The thing's flat triangular feet reminded me of the feet of the drones
in the 1971 sci-fi movie "Silent Running"... if memory serves the feet
are almost identical...

dave
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From: Michael Scott Shappe <Michael-S-Shappe@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Lynch's Spoiler Review: "The Quality of Life"
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:25:20 GMT

This is my first post in regards to an episode in a long time. Frankly,
it's the first time in a month I've bothered watching...

Anyway, my main problem with this episode is that it demonstrated, once
more, one of the great weaknesses of Star Trek: the use of gratuitous
magic. Microreplicators synthesizing tools? Machines not only
reprogramming their ROMs (using the same microreplicators) but managing
to bootstrap themselves into sentience in the process?

Can't we have a science-fictional plot that's actually based on (*gasp*)
science instead of Treknology and Technobabble?

Uncle Mikey
Starting to dispair for Trek in general
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From: danno@donner.cc.bellcore.com (ungerer,daniel a)
Subject: Re: The Riker Manuver
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:04:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.182944.99940@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY) writes:
> In article <1992Nov18.205307.1@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu>, f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
> writes:
> 
> >I thought the Riker Manuver was a quick (warp speed) way to get a member of
> >the opposite sex horizontal!!!
> 
> Which always seems to work best on nonhuman females.  Has Riker ever mated
> within his species?
> 
> 
> >
> >Richard.
> >  (__)   Richard J Appleyard  f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
> >  (oo)   Washington State University
> > ( \/ )  Voice (509) 335-7728  Fax (509) 335-9688
> >  \__/   "To err is human, but to really screw things up takes a computer!"
> >


You make a good point, I don't remember either.

Maybe the crewman he met in 10 Foward in the episode where
Troi gets old, and horny.  But that's about it.

Can anyone else remember????

Dan


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From: norbert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy James)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: I wanna Fistful of Troy!!!
Date: 16 Nov 1992 19:41:35 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <BxtLLw.FDD@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> sager@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Brian) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.084230.3993@wkuvx1.bitnet> pattecd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>>
>>     All analytical observations aside, I thought Troy looked rather
>>sexy in her leather pants!  8)
>>
>>
>     Dude,  What the hell????  We aren't the sexist pig, are we?
>
>Learn to spell!!  It's Troi, not Troy.
>
>			Love, Dorm-Rec
>
>
I'll agree twice...

Troi is always sexy....
And calling someone sexy is not sexist in my opinion...
But the subject line is...
Well, a little crass...



-- 
--------------
Timothy James McInerney 
tmcinern@feds26.Prime.com    "I wanna decide who lives 
norbert@wpi.wpi.edu           and who dies"  - Crow
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From: lmahoney@chemdept.chem.ncsu.edu (Louise Mahoney)
Subject: Re: The Official Dorm-Rec Review of "A Fistful of Data's" (spoilers)
Organization: Chemistry Department, North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:18:49 GMT

In article <BxsCF9.LD5@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) writes:


A whole argument and counter-attack about sexism deleted

>  I fear bad scripts more than I fear women.  And I never met a woman that 
>was a match for me, in any area.  Nope, no fear here.  Thank you for playing,
>please feel free to try again.

You almost had me rooting for you until this last little bit.  Yes
I am a woman, and not a particularly screaming feminist.  I agree
with your statements about Troi being motivated by your dislike
for the character/actor,   BUT  (not that kind of BUTT)

If you have never met a woman that was a match for you, in any area
You probably need to get out a little more.

Not a flame
Just an observation

Louise "no butt" Mahoney
From: andrewf@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Andrew Fong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Trekkies vs. Trekkers
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:56:36 GMT
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.32

SBARNETT@tattoo.cs.widener.edu (Scott Barnett) writes:

>Hi Everyone,
>   I am currently writing an ethnography for my Anthropology class and would
>be gratefull if some could answer a question for me.  What is the difference
>between a Trekkie and a Trekker?  Thanks.

Well you've just asked a landmine question ?!!! Better duck for cover
now 8^) !!!!

As I understand it, Trekkie connotates really fanatical nerd type who 
follows Star Trek rabidly. He/she/it is a living encyclopedia of Trek 
trivia and lives and breaths Star Trek. However, this sort of fan gets 
offended by being called a Trekkie as it is considered derogatory.

Trekker is considered the polite term, altho it is more general to any
fan of Star Trek. In my reading of articles and general hanging around
, Trekkie is more widely used and accepted.

Its a bit like people prefering SF to SciFi.


					Andrew

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From: me90jjr@brunel.ac.uk (Jeffrey J Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Troi 24..30...56...
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:49:28 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
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Laura Halliday (laurahal@microsoft.com) wrote:
: 
: *I* don't see what the problem is. Marina Sirtis is a woman,
: and is shaped like one. Like a real woman, not the 12 year old
: pseudo-male figures that the fashion industry seems obsessed with.
: 
: I think she has a cute butt...
: 
: ...laura in a curmudgeonly mood


Yeah! About time some one actually quit slagging her off. I don't see too
many people commenting on the size of Picard middle-aged spread or his
bald patch. As it happens, I think that Troi is rather nice all over
but lets get back to a real debate about ST or STTNG.

Jeff
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