HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: azog@world.std.com (Azog Thoth)
Subject: Re: Sepultura, etc.
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:12:56 GMT

9135477m@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:


>Try the following by Sepultura.   - Morbid Visions ( Not bad )
>				  - Bestial Devastations ( Rough )
>                                  - Under Siege ( video : VERY COOL )

Theres also an EP called Dead Embryonic Cells, which has the song by 
the same name, and Troops of Doom (which seems to be on every other
Sepultura CD Ive got!), and a very killer cover of Motorheads
'Orgasmatron'

-- 
Billy D'augustine
azog@world.std.com

Atari: Power without the price.
From: saint@cats.ucsc.edu (Dan Bodenheimer)
Newsgroups: alt.pulp
Subject: Triple Detective (pulp)
Date: 3 Sep 1992 06:37:15 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


I am in desperate need of the first sentence of the Leslie Charteris
story that appears in the Winter 1951 issue of Triple Detective. I
am finishing up a Charteris bibliography and don't know what that
story really is. I know that it was titled THE SAINT AND MR. TEAL in
said pulp magazine, but that must be a "new" title they plastered on
to it in order to sell! I can figure out what story it "really" is if
I can find the first sentence or so of the story as it appeared in
Triple Detective. Many thanks for any help you can offer.
Dan Bodenheimer (saint@cats.ucsc.edu)
From: saint@cats.ucsc.edu (Dan Bodenheimer)
Newsgroups: alt.pulp
Subject: True Crime Pulps?
Date: 28 Aug 1992 18:26:13 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


I am desperatly looking for 5 copies of True Police Cases magazine. I
only need photocopies of the stories by Leslie Charteris from the
Nov 1947 - Mar 1948 issues. Does anyone have these, or perhaps know
where I might be able to locate these articles. 

This is very important as Leslie Charteris has lost the orginal 
manuscripts to the depths of doubleday hell in Des Plains, IL. A new
book of collected stories is being planed, but these 5 stories are 
still missing! Help!

-Dan Bodenheimer
saint@cats.ucsc.edu
.
From: lsmith@mega.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: New Doc Savage Book: The Jade Ogre
Summary: That's Jade Ogre, not Sarragaso Ogre
Keywords: new different minty tasting
Organization: Little Savages of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:57:10 GMT

The latest Doc Savage novel is out. Looks more promising than the previous
book, Frightened Fish. (If nothing else, it's longer.) Sounds very exotic
with Doc and crew (including Pat) adventuring through Hong Kong, Cambodia
and other parts of Asia.

The next scheduled book is Flight Into Fear, due out in February 1993. That
will mark the 50th anniversary of the first Doc Savage story. 
--
 Lance "Totally Lost" Smith  |   "O! that this too solid lead would melt,
     (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)     |    Thaw, and resolve itself into a dew;"  
 "It's a fine line between   |   "Follow team spirit; and, upon this charge
     stupid and clever"      |    Cry 'God for Kelly! Minnesota and St Olaf!'"
From: psr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Peter S. Rabinowitz)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Re: Tarot computer program (?)
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:06:43 GMT
Organization: UB
Originator: psr@autarch.acsu.buffalo.edu


In article <Btx052.K1z@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v064lnev@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Avatar) writes:
>Hello,
>
>	I am thinking about writing a Tarot computer program.  I would like to
>hear what you think about the legitimacy of such a program.  Do you think it
>could work as well as a 'real' Tarot deck of cards?
>
>--Thanks.

If all you are doing is copying the interpretations from a book onto a computer, then it will work as well as reading the book would.  I was thinking of doing this a while ago but never started.
You would still need a human to provide an in depth interpretation of the cards.  The program would just manage the data.  I still think its worth doing, tho.
-- 
Strider                     | SUNY @ Buffalo | psr@acsu.buffalo.edu
Lord Mayor, The Hill People | (716) 636 4862 | V127MHSK@ubvms.bitnet

    "For the good of all and according to the free-will of all."
From: ithinki@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (face iz white! eyes iz tired!)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: geomancy question
Date: 23 Aug 1992 16:25:19 GMT
Organization: the nightmare zone
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu
Summary: looking for references


i was wondering if perhaps any of you out there might have recommendations
 as to good references for someone interested in geomancy, or divination
 by earth or sand...

*any* info you might be able to pass on would be greatly appreciated...

thanks!

-joel

-- 
 joel metz 			  ithinki@ucscb.ucsc.edu, mantis@gorn.echo.com
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
 the truth told wiv bad intent beats all the lies that you invent  - nik fiend
From: v064lnev@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Avatar)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Tarot computer program (?)
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:43:00 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello,

	I am thinking about writing a Tarot computer program.  I would like to
hear what you think about the legitimacy of such a program.  Do you think it
could work as well as a 'real' Tarot deck of cards?

--Thanks.
Newsgroups: alt.divination
From: cigp07@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Tarot computer program (?)
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:53:58 GMT

In article <Btx178.KL9@acsu.buffalo.edu>, psr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Peter S. Rabinowitz) writes:
>>Hello,
>>
>>	I am thinking about writing a Tarot computer program.  I would like to
>>hear what you think about the legitimacy of such a program.  Do you think it
>>could work as well as a 'real' Tarot deck of cards?
>>
>>--Thanks.
> 
> If all you are doing is copying the interpretations from a book onto a computer, then it will work as well as reading the book would.  I was thinking of doing this a while ago but never started.
> You would still need a human to provide an in depth interpretation of the cards.  The program would just manage the data.  I still think its worth doing, tho.

Is there not already a program available on PC compatibles written by Gerald 
Schueler?? It may be advertised in the back of some Llwewllyn books ( spelling
of this is shot to Hell, but you get the drift.... )

Cost about $30 as far as I can recall. 

Most Tarot programs I've seen so far have been merely spreads with no
interpretations available. I'd rather trust a human diviner than a computer....

> -- 
> Strider                     | SUNY @ Buffalo | psr@acsu.buffalo.edu
> Lord Mayor, The Hill People | (716) 636 4862 | V127MHSK@ubvms.bitnet
> 
>     "For the good of all and according to the free-will of all."
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
     *            	V.
                        cigp07@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
 *	 *              acarty@cs.strath.ac.uk

   *   *		"Convictions cause convicts"

What is real??                           - Principia Discordia
From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Re: Tarot computer program (?)
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:18:08 GMT
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio)
Organization: SGI TechPubs

---
psr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Peter S. Rabinowitz) writes:
|>I am thinking about writing a Tarot computer program.  I would like to
|>hear what you think about the legitimacy of such a program.  Do you think it
|>could work as well as a 'real' Tarot deck of cards?

|If all you are doing is copying the interpretations from a book 
|onto a computer, then it will work as well as reading the book 
|would.  I was thinking of doing this a while ago but never started.  
|You would still need a human to provide an in depth interpretation 
|of the cards.  The program would just manage the data.  I still 
|think its worth doing, tho.

I wrote a HyperCard stack for myself when I first became
interested in the Tarot.  Though it does auto-readings for
a few layouts, I wrote it mainly to have quick access to
information about each card.  Flipping through lots of books
to compare meanings got frustrating to me, so I wanted a way
to compile the more interesting interpretations in one place.
Also, I wanted convenient access to my own notes about the
images.

One of these days I'll find some b&w public domain images and
finish off the stack.

---
cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"There's no point in taking a compromised stand. [...] You make
the experiment, and either it fails or it doesn't." --Brian Eno
From: jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Russian Gypsy Fortune-Telling Cards?
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:13:11 GMT
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada


     Has anyone seen these (Russian Gypsy Fortune-Telling
Cards) or know anything about them?  I saw a set, with
instruction book, in one of the incense-and-affirmation shops
I frequent.  They were very beautiful-looking, but quite
expensive, so I didn't want to shell out for them without
knowing something about them.

     The cards themselves were square, and looked to be printed
with reproductions of hand-painted watercolour designs.  I don't
know much about Russian folk art, but it seemed believable that
they were authentic designs.  Whether they were used by actual
Gypsy fortune-tellers is, I suppose, more dubious.

     I'm mainly interested in whether the cards would be of
general interest to 1990s North Americans or if they are kind of
specific to the concerns of 19th century Russians.

--Jamie.
  jamie@cs.sfu.ca
"Every \item command in item_list must have an optional argument." LaTeX pg.168
Newsgroups: alt.divination
From: ndarvish@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Court Cards
Organization: Clark University
Date: 3 SEP 92 16:06:51 GMT


        I seem to be having a problem interpreting court cards when using
the celtic cross spread. In >Crowley's system and the Golden Dawn's, it is
much easier. The fact that each position in the celtic cross spread has its
own special significance is what makes it difficult. How do you interpret a
character in terms of the crown position or emotional conditions for intance?
        One way that i have overcome this problem is simple to use only
major arcana cards for the celtic cross spread, but I would rather use the
full deck as it brings a level of subtlety to the interpretation that you
can not achieve by using only the major arcana.
        If anyone out there can help me, please respond to any of the following
email addresses:

                        ndarvish@black.clarku.edu
                        ndarvish@jack.clarku.edu
                        murder@gnu.ai.mit.edu

                                        Thank You,
                                                   Noxx
Xref: sparky alt.revisionism:672 soc.history:8015
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history
Subject: Holocaust Almanac: Murder's Professor?
From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 12:01:20 GMT
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Keywords: Eupen,Globocnik,Treblinka,gas chamber

"One of Treblinka's first commandants was Theodor von Eupen, an expert
horseman who found diversion in riding about on a pedigree steed,
terrifying prisoners by maiming them or even trampling them to death. When
the first thirty Jewish children arrived from Warsaw, he assigned to a
university-educated Ukrainian guard the task of axing the children to
death. It should be noted that, in the climate of the later Cold War, the
murderer escaped censure and eventually returned to the teaching
profession.

There was no slackening of technical efficiency when Von Eupen was
succeeded by Odilo Globocnik, a veteran killer who had set up the camps in
Maidanek and Sobibor and proved his mettle in the liquidation of the
Bialystok ghetto. He accelerated the death process in Treblinka by
channeling the gas fumes of diesel engines directly into the chambers. He
saw to it that soothing music was supplied, usually by other hapless Jewish
prisoners, for the march to the gas chambers, `Ascension' and `The Way to
Heaven' being amonth the favorite selections. Himmler found Globocnik so
talented and entertaining that he promoted him to the commandant's post at
Belzec."

Extracted from--------------------------------------------------- 
"THE REDEMPTION OF THE UNWANTED", Abram L.  Sachar (New York: St.
Martin's/Marek, 1983.
-----------------------------------------------------------------

For an extensive bibliography dealing with the Holocaust, and containing over 
1100 citations, contact kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca - it will be sent to you
by return email. Additions to this bibliography are actively solicited.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Old Frog's Almanac - Public Access UseNet for Central Vancouver Island
     (604) 245-3205 (v32) (604) 245-4366 (2400x4) Waffle XENIX 1.64
Ladysmith, British Columbia, CANADA. kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken McVay)
Xref: sparky alt.revisionism:666 soc.history:7800
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history
Subject: War Criminal: Dr. Herta Oberhauser
From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 12:01:20 GMT
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Keywords: Auschwitz,Oberhauser

"Dr. Herta Oberhauser was a `well bred' woman with a cultured background.
Yet she killed prisoners with oil and evipan injections, removed their limbs
and vital organs, rubbed ground glass and sawdust into wounds. She drew a
twenty-year sentence as a war criminal, but was released in 1952 and became
a family doctor at Stocksee in Germany. Her license to practice medicine was
revoked in 1960."

Extracted from------------------------------------------------------------
"WOMEN IN THE RESISTANCE AND IN THE HOLOCAUST: THE VOICES OF EYEWITNESSES"
Edited (and with introduction) by Vera Laska. Greenwood Press, Westport &
London, 1983. LOC 82-12018, ISBN 0-313-23457-4                      p. 223
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

         === The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, Canada ===
-- 
"Walter Dejaco, of Reutte, a town in the Austrian Tyrol, who designed and
constructed the Auschwitz crematoria had no trouble in continuing to fulfil
building commissions. In 1963 he won warm praise from Bishop Rusk of
Innsbruck for the fine Presbytery he had built..." [Abram L. Sachar]
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism
From: tb13@ellis.uchicago.edu (leon joel gross)
Subject: Re: Holocaust Almanac: The Fate of Hungary's Jews
Keywords: Auschwitz,Eichmann,Hungary,Ruthenia,Sztojay
Reply-To: tb13@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:45:14 GMT

Testing my newsreader.

Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.


Xref: sparky alt.revisionism:671 soc.history:7936
Newsgroups: alt.revisionism,soc.history
Subject: War Criminal: Dr. Karl Clauberg
From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:01:03 GMT
Followup-To: alt.revisionism
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA
Keywords: Auschwitz,Clauberg

"...Less is known about this professor Karl Clauberg, M.D. from
Koenigshuette, who later pursued his experiments on live specimens in
Auschwitz, where he had a much wider range of victims.... 

All kinds of experiments were carried out by different doctors here, among
them castrations and sterilizations. The doctors made no bones about it that
their purpose was to prepare for the sterilization of certain European
nationalities, most likely Slavs, after the war.

Clauberg's sterilization project starter with about 350 or 400 mostly Greek
and Dutch women on December 18, 1942. He injected into their uterus
consecutively iodipirin, F 12a, which was diluted novacaine, and citobarium.
He also subjected the women to x-rays. The process resulted in peritonitus,
inflamation of the ovaries, and high fever. The ovaries were then removed,
usually in two separate operations, and then sent to Berlin for further
analysis. Most women who survived these experiments ended up in the gas
chambers."

Extracted from------------------------------------------------------------
"WOMEN IN THE RESISTANCE AND IN THE HOLOCAUST: THE VOICES OF EYEWITNESSES"
Edited (and with introduction) by Vera Laska. Greenwood Press, Westport &
London, 1983. LOC 82-12018, ISBN 0-313-23457-4                      p. 222
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

         === The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, Canada ===
-- 
| "The floors  of Sobibor's gas chambers were  constructed to tilt, like the
| body of a dump truck, so that stacks of corpses slid out smoothly." [Abram
| L. Sachar.  The Redemption of the Unwanted.  New York: St. Martin's/Marek,
| 1983. p. 43]    == The Old Frog's Almanac == Vancouver Island == CANADA ==
Xref: sparky alt.business.multi-level:429 misc.entrepreneurs:2700
From: serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level,misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Definition
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:10:50 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

From Webster's New Collegiate dictionary

      entreprenuer : one who organizes, manages, and assumes 
                   the risk of a business or enterprise
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
From: uloren@mcl.ucsb.edu (Loren D. Koss)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Starting an MLM...
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:10:09 GMT


Since there is so much flack about current MLM's, what would be the harm of
starting a new one?  That way, there are no bad stories about it, and if you
have a good marketing plan and solid service, then there will be no problem.
My belief is that many MLM's were started by money hungry people who wanted
to get rich quick and didn't realize the growth potential and ran into some
problems.

It shouldn't be that difficult to start one that is a pure profit potenital
organization, however, has a solid service.  I've noticed numerous Mailing
List and Advertisement MLM's that unfortunately have very weak marketing
plans (usually only go two levels deep) and I made only about $25 - $50..
However, if those companies DO IN FACT WORK (which they do, cuz I tried
them), then I should be able to start my own, with a better marketing plan
that pays out higher (90-95%), and be successful..

If anyone has any comments, please let me know.  I've been working on this
for awhile and I'd like some advice..  However, I don't need to hear from any
of you uninformed uneducated people about how unethical MLM's are.  Other
people on this network don't need there time wasted hearing from you.  And,
since I know this type of business IS INDEED LEGAL, I don't need to hear,
"Don't start it, you'll go to jail."  What I need is advice on how people
should pay for it and what type of prices are okay.  I
ve already designed the marketing plan and it pays very well for a monthly
fee of $10, and annual fee of $25 (prices increase as you move up the
marketing plan).

Advice and comments would be appreciated..

Loren
Uloren@MCL.UCSB.EDU
Xref: sparky alt.business.multi-level:398 misc.entrepreneurs:2620
From: dlhpfm!dlh@NCoast.org (daniel lance herrick)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level,misc.entrepreneurs
Subject: Re: Is there FAQ for this group??
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:52:31 EDT
Organization: dlh Performance Marketing

<SAYED@auvm.american.edu> writes:

> Hi
> I was wondering if there is a FAQ for this newsgroup so I
> can see what is allowed to be posted and what is not.
> 
> thanks in advance
> Sayed.

One thing that is not allowed, Sayed, is cross-posting between
misc.entrepreneurs and alt.business.multilevel.

Aside from that, this (misc.entrepreneurs) should be a group where you
could get useful advice about things going on in your business and it
should be a group where you might be able to connect with the other
side of a deal.  You must be delicate when you attempt to describe an
opportunity to not bore those of us who have seen the same multi-level
opportunity announcement with many names on it over and over again and
be careful to phrase things in a way that does not raise the ire of the
rabid anti-advertising watchdogs who are looking for an infraction to
jump on.

If you put your proposition in terms of a request for advice that gets
some of us intrigued, we will end up repeating your proposition on the
net a few times for you as we respond to the request for advice.

dan  of dlh Performance Marketing  POBox 1419  Mentor Ohio 44061
       NCoast.org!dlhpfm!dlh or ab.com!dlhpfm.uucp!dlh   (216)974-9637
"`Bad, bad,' says the buyer; but when he goes his way, then he boasts."
Proverbs 20:14
From: wpalmer@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Palmer)
Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
Subject: Food for Thought
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:16:19 GMT
Reply-To: wpalmer@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Palmer)
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Annapolis, MD

Hi all,

	 First of all, I'm an Amway distributor. Before I became one,
I had no business experience. That said, let's go on.

	 It occurs to me that there are many differences between entrepreneurs
and mlm'ers. As the posted definition stated, entrepreneurs literally
build a business from the ground up. That's a tough job to do. It takes,
among other things, knowledge, experience, a good sense of timing, money, 
lots of spare time, a proven product, a known market, and an efficient 
distribution method to get the product to the market.

	 You entrepreneurs out there, my hat goes off to you guys. You've
certainly worked hard and long to get what you've got. Is it possible,
however, that you did it the hard way? Is it possible that you overlooked
a vehicle, in the form of network marketing, that provides the knowledge,
experience, timing, development money, products, markets, and distribution
method, for you, and all you have to put into the business is your time 
and effort?

	 Don't you think that manufacturers look at mlms and are quite
eager to have their end product dumped into an instant INTERNATIONAL 
distribution system already in place. Is it possible that network marketing
is a more efficient means of product distribution than jobber-wholesaler-retail
outlet chains?

	 What about the business failures I keep hearing and reading
about? The blank storefronts in the mall? And then I remember that Amway
reported $1.1 billion profit in fiscal 1991. Is it possible that the
traditional method of doing business is on the way out, as John Nesbitt
implies in his book "MegaTrends"? If the American business world is 
in a temporary slump because we're in an economic recession, how come 
Amway didn't slump with everyone else?

	 These are some questions which occurred as I was thinking about 
the discussion going on in alt.business.multi-level. What's everyone 
think?


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Applications and Special Projects branch  fax: 410-267-2561
Naval Surface Warfare Center          autovon: 281-4817
Annapolis, MD, USA, 21402-5067       InterNet: wpalmer@oasys.dt.navy.mil

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Newsgroups: alt.business.multi-level
From: david.hoisve@uuserv.cc.utah.edu
Subject: MLM "opportunity shows" on satellite?
Organization: The University of Utah
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:47:37 GMT

Any good MLM opportunity shows on C or Ku band satellite?

One of my neighbors, a dedicated MLM fan, and a newcomer to satellite TV, is 
interested in new opportunites.  

Thanks...

== Dave.