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From: dwex@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.e.wexelblat)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X11R5 on ISC -- no nore shared libs :-(
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:56:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <20210@polstra.UUCP> jdp@polstra.UUCP (John Polstra) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.032641.573@shawn.uucp> root@shawn.uucp (Mark Jeghers -- UNIX/X/Motif Contractor) writes:
> > The stock version of X11R5 for Intel-based SVGA systems lacks an important
> > feature that was readlily available in X11R4 (even though not from MIT):
> > shared libraries.
> 
> Get XFree86.  I picked up the binaries over the weekend, and all of the
> important libraries (X11, Xaw, Xext, Xi, Xmu, Xt, and oldX, to be precise)
> came in shared versions.
> -- 
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>    "Self-knowledge is always bad news."                 -- John Barth


No.  He's asking about SVR3, not SVR4.  XFree86 has shared libraries for
SVR4, but not for SVR3 (yet).  This is being actively worked by several
of our beta testers.  Unfortunately, it wasn't ready in time for XFree86
1.1; there was so much other new stuff we wanted to get it out the door.
We expect that XFree86 1.2 will have SVR3 shared libraries; in fact the
schedulre for XFree86 1.2 will probably be designed around when the
SVR3 shared library stuff is ready.

I'm not directly involved, so I don't know where things stand right now.
I do know that a beta libX11_s is being tested, and the other libraries
are being created.  Stay tuned.

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From: bagus@netcom.com (Mark E. Ruedy)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.motif
Subject: "translation table syntax error" messages
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:02:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.cz+p0ck.bagus
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)



Can anyone help with this runtime warning message?


Environment:
        Sun IPX    
        OpenWindows 3.0 Server
        Motif Window Manager

I compiled my Motif program without any warning messages, however when I 
tried running it, I got many "translation table syntax error" messages.
Does anyone knows why I am getting this error? I tried modifying the 
XKeysymDB file in my home directory but somehow the problem is still 
exist. Could this be a problem when I am using an OpenWindow 3.0 server 
with the Motif window manager? 


Please don't reply to this post.  Instead send E-Mail to:

nick@telco-nac.com

Thanks
Nick
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: rob@csi.on.ca (Rob McAteer)
Subject: Top Level Shells - How do I position them?
Summary: Top Level Shells - How do I position them?
Keywords: Top Level Shells Positioning
Organization: Carp Systems International
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:04:41 GMT

Ok, I give... Our app has buttons that pop up Top Level Shell dialogs.  We want
Top Level shells so we can move, inconize etc our application dialogs.  Now I
want to control where the top level shells are being placed from our 
application, but I can't seem to do it.  
I've tried using my app-defaults file to at least control/predict where they
will appear but it's ignored.  I've tried XtSetValues, no luck.  I just
tried XtMakeGeometryRequest and even though I get back XtGeometryYes, the
placement is still random. My windows just slowly drift off to the lower
right hand corner.
BTW I'm on Motif, X11R4, AIX 3.2 and have used Teleuse to do the simple stuff 
(window layout) for our application.

Any help would be appreciated...

-- 
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600 Terry Fox Drive, Suite 200                  Fax: (613) 592-0584
Kanata, Ontario, Canada     K2L 4B6
From: Bo.Gao@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Converting VAX2000 w/s to X terminals
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:07:09 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

I am not sure if this is the right group to post my questions,
anyway, here it goes:

Is it possible to convert VAX 2000/3100 workstations to X terminals?
If this is possible, what is the procedure we should follow?
(X11R5 is installed on one of our SUN workstations.)

Thanks in advance.

-----------------------------------+----------------------------
 Bo Gao, Dept. of E&E Engineering, | JANET:  Bo.Gao@uk.ac.ncl
 Univ. of Newcastle upon Tyne,     | USENET: Bo.Gao@ncl.ac.uk
 Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 7RU       | Tel:    (+44) 091 222 7322
 U.K.                              | <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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 Univ. of Newcastle upon Tyne,     | USENET: Bo.Gao@ncl.ac.uk
 Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 7RU       | Tel:    (+44) 091 222 7322
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.apps:1189 comp.unix.misc:3881
From: millsad@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk (Alan Mills)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,comp.unix.misc
Subject: X in the office
Keywords: office wordprocessing spreadsheets
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:12:45 GMT
Reply-To: millsad@prl.philips.co.uk
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Redhill, UK

Is anybody using X terminals to run applications such as wordprocessing,
spreadsheets, business graphics etc. in multiple windows?  Are there
any places where secretaries and managers are using X (and UNIX) as
their day-to-day working environment?  We are looking at a strategy
which says we want to support as few operating systems as possible and
the core business (electronics research) demands UNIX.  So, can we do
all we need with just UNIX, will our administrative staff be happy with
that scenario?

Please email me with any relevant experience which you have in this
area.  Thanks in anticipation.

Alan Mills (millsad@prl.philips.co.uk)
Philips Research Laboratories
Cross Oak Lane, Redhill, Surrey, RH1 5HA, U.K (tel: +44 293 785544)
From: envbvs@epb11.lbl.gov (Brian V. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: xfig: Pie chart?
Date: 6 Oct 1992 17:57:33 GMT
Organization: lbl
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.123

In article <1992Sep20.040410.3965@xenitec.on.ca>, vances@xenitec.on.ca (Vance Shipley) writes:
|> I use xfig quite a bit.  Today I finally ran into something I just
|> couldn't seem to do.  I was trying to make a pie chart type picture.
|> Is there any way to create a slice of pie type shape in xfig?
|> Are there any new shapes in the forth coming version?

Someday, I hope to add the pie-wedge type of (filled) arcs.  Someday :-)

-- 
Brian V. Smith    (bvsmith@lbl.gov)
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
I don't speak for LBL; they don't pay me enough for that.
From: alberto@cs.umd.edu (Jose Alberto Fernandez R)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Xterm as a widget
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:38:35 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Maryland Computer Sc.


Is there any widget (Athena if possible) that allow to run a program
in a subshell handling io but allows the main program to control
things like events on the window?

My problem is that if I use an Xterm I cannot have access to the
events on the Xterm window, the other option is to write all the
interaccion in X (including echoing, line editing, scrolling, etc).
This can be a real pain. Is there a widget that provides all this?

	Jose Alberto.

I am mainly an X user not a programmer.
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From: quekck@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Chwee Kong QUEK)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:59:32 GMT
Subject: How to create a topmost overrideShell which can parent MainWindow widget ?
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps


How to, programmatically, create an "OverrideShell" as the topmost widget
of an X application which needs to create a MainWindow child under the
topmost "OverrideShell" ?


Specifically, the application will 

  pop up a window which requires 

  user to enter text and 
  
  window will close only after return key is pressed 
  or a button on the window is pressed,

  inputfocus then is released.



I have tried XtInitialize() with both XmNoverrideRedirect and
XmNsaveUnder resouces/atoms set to True. It did not work


Any help is very much appreciated.


thanking you in advance.
quek
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: hagedorn@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov (John Hagedorn)
Subject: Is there a hex version of xcalc?
Reply-To: hagedorn@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov (John Hagedorn)
Organization: NASA / GSFC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:52:29 GMT

Can anyone point me to a version of xcalc (or other
X-based calculator) that handles hexadecimal arithmetic?

Thanks.

John Hagedorn   NASA/GSFC   hagedorn@betsy.gsfc.nasa.gov



Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu (Nicolas Strobel)
Subject:  SUMMARY of PD interactive x,y plotter with cursor
Keywords: plotter interactive
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:14:01 GMT

strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu (Nicolas Strobel) wrote:

>Is there a public domain interactive plotter that can take pairs of x,y
>coordinate points, plot them, and put up a cursor in the graph window so
>one can read off data values?  Something like gnuplot, but with a cursor
>that will tell you the cursor position if you click a mouse button or strike
>a key.  Anyone know?

>please email,

>Nick
>strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu

Here's a summary of the info I received about interactive XY plotters with
a cursor:

Program
ACE/gr: xview version called "xvgr" and motif version called "xmgr"
  where- ftp.ccalmr.ogi.edu (129.95.72.34) xvgr is in 
/CCALMR/pub/acegr/xvgr-2.09.tar.Z, and xmgr is in 
/CCALMR/pub/acegr/xmgr-2.09.tar.Z.   This is the latest version

another site is amb4.ese.ogi.edu (129.95.20.76). It has the latest in the
same pathname noted above.


Thanks to Rob Locher (locher@iastate.edu)
	  gridley@postgres.Berkeley.EDU
	  Jerry Judd (jzj@inel.gov)
	  Paul Turner (pturner@amb4.ccalmr.ogi.edu)
	  John Rodkey (westmx!rodkey@uunet.UU.NET)

for information about this program. I have not been able to fetch the package
yet.

Program
Robot: Sun version readily available. DECstation version can be made available
  with an email note to Robin Corbet. Where- ftp.astro.psu.edu in 
  pub/astrod/robotx#.##.tar.Z (full package #.## is the version number)
  pub/astrod/RobotManual.ps.Z (just the docs)
  pub/astrod/robot.sun4.Z (binary built on SPARC)

Thanks to Robin Corbet for the info about Robot. It's a nice tool!


Program
AthenaTools Plotter Widget Set v6.0. Motif demo program does what I originally
  asked about. Where- export.lcs.mit.edu in
  plotter.V60.tar.Z (full package)
  plotter.afm.tar.Z (for PS output from within plotter.)
  plotter.doc.tar.Z (man pages and other docs)

Thanks to Peter Klingebiel (klin@iat.uni-paderborn.de) for the info about the
widget set.

Nick
strobel@dirac.phys.washington.edu

Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: craven@cg.emr.ca (Jim Craven)
Subject: X interface to crontab?
Reply-To: craven@cg.emr.ca
Organization: Dept. of Energy, Mines & Resources, Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:22:35 GMT

I am looking for a program with an X-interface to a program
scheduler such as crontab.  Anyone know of one?

Thanks in advance & I will summarize any responses.

Jim
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: simmons@cs.washington.edu (David Simmons)
Subject: Xfig 2.1.4 EPS objects
Summary: fig2dev problem?
Keywords: xfig EPS fig2dev
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 00:24:17 GMT

I've been trying to use Xfig 2.1.4's ability to import encapsulated
PostScript objects, but am having problems exporting the results --
our version of fig2dev claims to be compatible with version 2.1 of xfig,
but when attempting to translate .fig files that include EPS objects (into
EPS or PS) it returns "Incomplete line object at line 3."

(the fig file:)
#FIG 2.1
80 2
2 5 0 1 -1 0 0 0 0.000 0 0 0
        0 test2.eps
         84 34 639 34 639 424 84 424 84 34 9999 9999
4 0 0 12 0 -1 0 0.000 4 12 184 94 464 other xifg eported & imported above.

(I've tried EPS files generated by fig2dev and idraw.)

Is the problem most likely fig2dev?  If so, which version is needed
to support embedded EPS objects in .fig files?

Thanks,

---Dave




-- 

Dave Simmons            | "Quod erat demonstrandum, baby.
CS grad student         |                           (ooh you speak French)"
U of Washington Dept CS |  --Thomas Dolby "Airhead"
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Can someone point me to an x-based mail program?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 20:21:45 GMT
Organization: Mail Group

Can someone point me to an ftp source for an x-based mail program?  I
really only need this as a way to easily store mail in a hierarchy of
mail folders.

Thanks,
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.apps:1198 comp.windows.news:716
From: earley@modular.com (Joe Earley)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,comp.windows.news
Subject: Device independent drawing tools anyone?
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:53:45 GMT
Followup-To: comp.windows.x.apps
Distribution: na
Organization: Modular Mining Systems, Tucson, AZ


Other than NeWS, what toolkits, libraries, commercial packages, or
whatever are available to do device independent drawing in an X
canvas?  I'm not asking for information about ornament toolkits like
XView or OLIT, I'm talking about draw-the-pretty-picture type of
software.  Here's a list of capabilities I would be looking for:

1) Object management.  If anything besides NeWS can do this I would be
   extremely happy.

2) Device independence so that I will not have to worry about pixels
   and display geometries.

3) Free, the more free (freer|freeer?) the better;  or cheap, the
   cheaper the better.  We like source code.

4) Supports hard copy to a laser device without dumping a bit-mapped
   image. (You can't beat NeWS at this one.)  Hard copy to a plotter
   would be nice.

Here is a list of things I've already considered:

A) Xlib.  Bleech.  Doesn't do most of the above.

B) Phigs.  Big, impressive, I will not need 95% of it.  I'm not sure
   about the hard copy support.

C) DataViews and SL-GMS.  Expensive, especially if we have to eat the
   cost of getting it for each of our existing clients.  Both do
   object management.

D) OpenGL.  I've heard of it but I don't know anything other than how to
   spell it.

E) Display PostScript.  Doesn't do #1 above but would make converting a
   NeWS application a little easier.  Is it available yet?  (By the way,
   I don't know any more about the fate of NeWS than you do.  We simply
   need to run our software on PC X servers and Xterminals.)

F) Precision Visuals software.  We like C and C++, we don't do
   Fortran anymore.  Also is the antithesis of #3 above.

G) Hoops.  See D above, but I'm not even sure about the spelling.
   I've even heard it being called WHoops - that worries me.  No
   specifics on why it might be called that, I didn't ask for any
   elaborations. 

I'm also posting this to comp.windows.news because I know that people
who use NeWS have a solid understanding of where I'm coming from.
Without going into a tirade about X I'll just say that I'm looking to
do X programming without the pain.

Joe Earley
Modular Mining Systems
modular!earley@cs.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: lehors@celeste.inria.fr (Arnaud Le Hors)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: WANTED:  Pixmap editor for XPM format files.
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:42:01 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France

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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 08:35:41 -0400
From: dsmith@ann-arbor.cad.slb.com (J. Daniel Smith)
Message-Id: <9209301235.AA27758@sir22.ann-arbor.cad.slb.com>
To: xpm-talk@sophia.inria.fr
Subject: XPM Icon Editors

Here's the current version of my XPM Icon Editor list.  Its probably
far from complete, but its all the information I've obtained so far.

   Dan
=========================================================================
J. Daniel Smith                           dsmith@ann-arbor.cad.slb.com
Applicon Schlumberger                     dsmith@aaaca1.sinet.slb.com 
Ann Arbor, Michigan (USA)                 ...!uunet!sharkey!applga!dsmith
(313) 995-6395                            AAACA1::DSMITH (SINet)
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				XPM Icon Editors
				================

Program		Source/Author		Platforms	SA	XPM 	cost
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
pixmap		Lionel Mallet		source		yes	 3	 NC
   * version 2 soon to be available
   * current version doesn't work on 24-plane displays

pixt		J. Michael Flanery 	source		yes	 1	 NC
   * doesn't work on 24-plane displays

X.desktop	IXI			DECstation	no	 2	N/A
					?

?		USL			?		?	 ?	 ?

xfedor		Daniel Dardailler	source		yes	 3	 NC
   * doesn't work on 24-plane displays
   * only uses XLIB

SCOpaint	SCO			?		yes	2.8	 ?

pme.icn		Icon Project		source		yes	 3	 NC
   * written in the Icon language

PixEditT	Free Widget Foundation	source		yes	 3	 NC
   * there is currently no support for editing the colormap

xscribble	?			source		yes	 ?	 NC
   * requires the FWF

Vue3.0		Hewlett-Packard		HP		yes	 ?	N/A

iconedit V3	SunSoft 		Sparc/Sun3	yes	 2	N/A

Pixmap Editor	ICS			?		yes	 ?	 ?
   * this is a Widget, not a complete program


SA - Stand Alone program
NC - No Charge (i.e. free); most programs are copyrighted.
XPM - XPM format supported
source - built from source code; likely works on all standard X platforms
N/A - icon editor is normally sold with other software


Send updates, additions, corrections, etc. to 
   dsmith@ann-arbor.cad.slb.com (or dsmith@aaaca1.sinet.slb.com)

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: ruck@zeta.ee.ufl.edu (John R Ruckstuhl Jr)
Subject: xmail 1.4: where is compface?
Organization: EE Dept at UF
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 22:07:02 GMT

the README for xmail 1.4 (X11R5 contrib) says:

> This version of xmail includes support for decompressing and displaying
> the content of an X-Face mail header, if such a header exists in the
> message being read.  This feature is a compile time option, and requires
> the existence of the compface library routines, which are NOT supplied
> with the xmail sources.    X-Face headers are compressed bitmap images,
> typically of the face of the person owning such a header.  The compressed
> header contains only printable characters, which allows it to be included
> in a mail message.  The USENIX FaceSaver project is typically the source
> for these bitmaps, which are compressed into X-Face header format using
> the compface software tools written and distributed by James Ashton
> <jaa@cs.su.oz.au>.  The compface library is also provided with the distri-
> bution of the faces software, written by Rich Burridge, and is available
> by email from his archive server <rb-archive-server@Aus.Sun.COM>.

But I can't find the compface library.  Archie didn't find it.
I did find plenty of xface-1.0, but that doesn't have the library that
the xmail build will look for.
I emailed a letter to rb-archive-server@Aus.Sun.COM containing strings
"send help" and "send index" and it puked:

>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> sh: /home/archive-server/bin/incoming-archive-request: not found
> 554 "| /home/archive-server/bin/incoming-archive-request"... unknown mailer error 1


Did anyone build xmail to show faces?

Thanks for any pointers.
Best regards,
ruck

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From: klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Re: Can someone point me to an x-based mail program?
Date: 29 Sep 1992 10:28:01 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tommy

In article <dy_pxmh.westes@netcom.com>, westes@netcom.com (Will Estes) writes:
|> Can someone point me to an ftp source for an x-based mail program?  I
|> really only need this as a way to easily store mail in a hierarchy of
|> mail folders.

Xmh is most likely what you need. It comes with MIT's X11 distribution and
lays on top of MH, which you should have installed also.

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  Univ. Dortmund, IRB
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From: laydin@solar.usc.edu (Levent Aydin)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: xdbx problems ...
Date: 1 Oct 1992 10:06:51 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: solar.usc.edu
Keywords: debuggers


	Hello;
	I am using xdbx-2.00 to debug my programs.Recently I have had enough
problems with it and I decided to ask if any of you out there know a better debug
tool for X windows based on dbx.If there is a newer version let me know.Or if
you are using a better one with no problems tell me its name.Or better yet let me
know if I can get it from an ftp site or something.
	Thank you very much.Please address directly to me as I cannot read this
group too often.



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