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Hello !


    I have just installed Linux 0.99 (SLS) on my 386/16Mhz machine and every
    thing works well. At least as long as I boot from my floppy...

    I try to use lilo on my machine to boot from the hard disk but it doesn't
    work. I have a 60 MB HD with a 2 partitions : hda1 is for LINUX hda2 for
    swap. I have NO MSDOS partition. 

    What I did is :

	 lilo -c -i boot.b -b /dev/hda linux=/Image

    lilo reported a successfull installation but when I boot from the hard
    disk everything goes well : LILO starts, find /Image, the initialization
    of the kernel is ok, the partition table is reported ok and then I 
    have the following message : 

    ....
    Partition table ok.
    MINIX-fs : unable to read super-block
    EXT-fs : unable to read super-block
    MSDOS bread failed
    isofs_read_super : bread failed, dev 0x343 iso_blknum 16.
    Kernel panic : Unable to mount root.


    and then silence....

    Do you have any idea ? 

Thanks a lot for your help.
Laurent


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Dave@usppc.abb.com
Subject: Re: real-time
Reply-To: Dave@usppc.abb.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:04:19 GMT

Dan Hildebrand replied to my post by singing the praises of QNX.  I try to
keep an eye on the systems such as QNX.  I usually think of them as
suitable for moderately stiff mid-sized real time systems that will be
deployed in volume on purpose built hardware or merchant boards.
Really hard things are stuff like signal processing, fly-by-wire
avionics, and the like.  Our simulators are really easy, and who knows,
QNX may run the I/O controllers which we buy.

QNX may be faster than greased lightning but I must still design and
achieve appropriate behavior. A specialist OS like QNX may make this a
little easier but my skill or lack of skill will own the result.

Perhaps some soal can tell us about pSOS, Lynx, VX-Works, DEC Elx,
VRTX, the intel one (I don't known the TM), and the others ...

Dave Hamby
From: richb@jti.com (Richard Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: something screwy with mail...
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:22:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: jti.C0EDy3.6sA
Organization: Jupiter Technology Inc. / Waltham, MA

Over the weekend I hacked my copy of mail (the one included with
mailpak-1.3) so it runs setuid root instead of setgid mail.  That
way the mail files can be protected 600.  As soon as mail starts up,
it sets its effective user ID back to that of the user running it,
and I put calls to request root UID only in places where it writes
the actual mail files.  Hopefully it's secure; with this hack, it
now works the same as the mailers I'm used to on other systems.  If
people want my (rather minimal) mods I'll upload them to an archive
site or send them to the mailpak maintainer.

I have another screwy problem, though.  With elm 2.4pl17 and with
this version of mail, I get two near-duplicate "To:" headers in
outbound mail.  Apparently elm is creating a To header, and then
mail is adding a second one.

Why might that happen?

-rich
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ramaer@cs.utwente.nl (Mark Ramaer)
Subject: Re: Help with ET4000 and fixed frequency monitor PLEASE! : )
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:34:30 GMT

In article <24785@galaxy.ucr.edu>, jason@galaxy.ucr.edu (jason bishop) writes:
|> 
|> 	HEP me man! I was borrowing a trident vga card for my new
|> fixed frequency monitor (48khz horizontal by 60hz vertical) and it
|> worked great under X windows.  I had it in 1024x768 mode with no
|> problems.  I returned the card to a friend and bought a ET4000 hicolor
|> and now the 1024x768 mode doesnt seem to work.  I guess the ET4000 has
|> a different set of dot clocks.  Anyway, I made up my own mode with
|> the modegen2.sc spreadsheet by plugging in my horizontal and
|> vertical frenquencies for the monitor and a sample dot clock for 
|> the ET4000 card (75 I think it was) and guessed at all of the 
|> other values for sync delays and such.  But I dont think my monitor
|> likes it too good.  I ran it for 24 hours with these values and
|> now the very top left corner of the screen is discolored! HELP!
|> These are the values I was using in my Xconfig file:
|> 	   "test"       75     1184 1216 1552 1568    771  778  781  797
|> 
[...]

My Tseng Labs ET4000 plus (48KHz,60Hz) monitor like these values:

  Virtual       1024 1024
  ViewPort      0 0
# Modes         "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480" "1240x768"
  Modes         "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
  Clocks 25 28 32 36 40 45 31 38 51 56 65 72 81 90 63 75
# Staticgray
# Grayscale
# Staticcolor
  Pseudocolor
# Truecolor
# Directcolor
  Chipset       "et4000"
# Displaysize   1024 768
# Screenno      0
  Videoram      1024

ModeDB
#            clock  horzontal timing      vertical timing
 "640x480"   25     640  664  760  800    480  491  493  525  # 31.25KHz x 60 Hz
 "800x600"   36     800  824  896 1024    600  601  603  625  # 35KHz x 56Hz
 "1024x768"  65    1024 1032 1176 1344    768  771  777  806  # 48KHz x 60Hz
 "1240x768"  75    1240 1264 1560 1584    768  771  777  806  # 48KHz x 60Hz

1240x768 runs fine, but I prefer a virtual screen with a higher vertical
resolution.  Note that the psysical vertical resolution is limited by
48KHz / 60Hz / 1.05 = 762 .  I guess your vertical sync is too short.

In the directory /usr/lib/X11/doc/vgadbase you can find clocks for many
ET4000 cards.

Hope this helps
From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: It's installed, now what?  (was Re: A flight of marketing fancy)
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:08:12 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <1igrp7INNdp8@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de writes:
>In article <C0FvMp.A2y@jti.com> richb@jti.com (Richard Braun) writes:
>>
>>I was musing a number of hours after the above about where I go from
>>here with my newly-installed Linux system.  If I throw out my
>>mailing-list, address-book, word-processing, and spreadsheet programs

Mailing-list    - Don't know for sure, but you should be able to get some-
                  thing that can maintain a mailing list via anon ftp.
Address-book    - rolo (rolodex for Unix, available on ftp.uu.net. Compiles
                  ootb (out-of-the-box) or with minor futzing.)
Word-processing - see below
Spreadsheet     - see below

>>previously used on the system, and manage to decide that I never want
>>to use them again, I still have the following question:
>>
>>	Now what?

Why'd you buy a computer in the first place?  If you can't do with Linux
what you could do on DOS, get rid of Linux.  If you can, then bag DOS. If
you want to keep both, do that, then. I think the point folks are trying
to make is that there's quite a bit of software available that can be made
to run on Linux that will let you do everything you want/need.

>Well, I've got TeX and vi, with xdvi for previewing, so that takes care
>of the word processing :-)

Of course, there's also Doc for those who want WYSIWYG.  Let's not forget
IDraw, either.

>The programming environment is far superior to anything MS-DOS has to
>offer, and with f2c I've got a fairly reasonable FORTRAN compiler for
>work; when g77 comes out, I'll hurry and install it.  Gnuplot takes
>care of the graphics side of things.
>
>I admit to still using Windows 3.1 for Excel, though :-)

Have you tried out sc yet?  I wouldn't be surprised if it really didn't
compare to Excel, but it seems to be pretty good (for my needs). So let's
see here...we have two versions of a spreadsheet - generic sc and xspread,
word processor (Doc), typesetting system ([La]TeX), text formatters (*roff),
editors, compilers, translators, interpretors, databases (Ingres and SHQL),
a rolodex, a drawing program, and lots more I'm unaware of. Linux seems to
be doing pretty well for being at v0.99 and non-funded, no? :)

>-- 
>Thomas Koenig, ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, ig25@dkauni2.bitnet
>The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic
>diagram.

--Brian
__________
Brian Talley, Systems Consultant, Eastman Kodak Research Labs, Rochester, NY
talley@acadia.kodak.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sepp@ppcger.ppc.sub.org (Josef Wolf)
Subject: Problems with curses-library
Organization: PPC Cooperation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:30:04 GMT

Hello Folks!

I have got some problems with curseperl. I create one window and set
scrollok to 1 on that window. Every time when it comes to scroll, the
y-position of the cursor will be set to -1.

To me, this seems to be a (porting?)-bug in the curses-library, because
things behave normally when I change the lines

     if (x >= win->_maxx || y >= win->_maxy)
          return ERR;
to
     if (x-1 >= win->_maxx || y-1 >= win->_maxy)
          return ERR;

in move.c in the curses-lib.

BTW: This is perl 4.035, linux0.99.2, gcc2.3.3, lib4.2(new version).

Here is a little test-script which shows this strange behavior on my
machine:

--- snipp --- snipp --- snipp --- snipp --- snipp --- snipp --- snipp ---

#! /usr/local/bin/curseperl

$| = 1;
&initscr; &cbreak; &noecho; &scrollok ($stdscr, 1);
$lines = $LINES; $cols = $COLS;

&test_curses;

&move ($lines - 1, 0);
&clrtoeol;
&refresh;
&endwin;

sub test_curses {
	$w_main = &subwin ($stdscr, 8, $cols, 1, 0);
	$w_debug = &subwin ($stdscr, 2, $cols, $lines - 7, 0);
	&scrollok ($w_main, 1);
	&refresh;
CHAR:	while (($inchr = &getch) ne "q") {
		&wrefresh ($curscr), next CHAR if $inchr eq 'L';
		$count++;
		&waddstr ($w_main, "$count\n");
&getyx($w_main, $y, $x);
&wmove ($w_debug, 0, 0);
&waddstr ($w_debug, "Y$y X$x ");
		&refresh;
	}
}
-- 
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Josef Wolf, Germersheim, Germany
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From: jansen@bruichladdich.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Jansen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: LEAVING X -> Corrupted Textmode WHY ??????
Date: 4 Jan 1993 10:51:22 GMT
Organization: RWTH Aachen, Deutschland
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jansen@bruichladdich.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Jansen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bruichladdich.informatik.rwth-aachen.de
Keywords: X Textmode

Hi there ,

Leaving X  doesn't restore the Textmode .....
I know that this is a known problem but is this a know-solveable or a 
know-non-solveable-problem ????
Maybe there exists a program, which re-init the VGA - card to their
initial-values ....

Maybe somebody know this and email it

Thanks in advance

                   TOM
From: kjv@exucom.com (Karl J. Vesterling)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: X & telnet via modem - no SLIP.
Date: 9 Jan 93 11:10:52 GMT
Organization: ExuCom Multimedia Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Andrew J. Cosgriff ! (andrewc@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au) wrote:
: Akternatively, the new version of Term (0.99) appeared on sunsite
: This is very nice !
: You log into uni via xc or whatever you normally use, then run term at each end
: (you have to compile it at each end...) - at your end, you run it like you'd run
: rz, etc...

: Then you can switch to another VC and do a trsh and log in multiple times !
: You can log in the other way too !


	Well, I tried the above between an SGI Indigo, and a SUN
Sparcstation 2.  As it turns out, it never worked, and I've all but
given up on it. (Sigh)...

	I would like to get it to work between the SGI and a few LINUX
machines that call my machine.  I have a feeling that the users would
really like that, and have a tendency to show that off to all of their
DOS friends...

	Now there is something that DOS based BBS systems don't
offer...  And the LINUX users can still pop up another shell on their
local machine and do what they please.

	This alone would raise a few eyebrows in the communications
"sector"...  And up till now DOS users think BImodem was slick...
Hahaha...

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From: ammond@gdls.CSCTMD.COM (Joe Ammond)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux on a Cyrix 486DLC..
Summary: Does Linux run on a Cyrix 486DLC?
Keywords: Linux Cyrix 486DLC
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:09:37 GMT
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp. @ General Dynamics


I'm looking to replace my aging Xenix/286 system with a nice shiny new
486 Linux box.  I've been waffling between a 386/40, and a 486SX/25, but
I saw in the Linux hardware combatibility guide that Linux runs on a 
Cyrix 486DLC.  Can anyone who has done this please contact me?  I'd like
to know if you've run into any bugs or gotchas, and possbily where you
purchased your motherboard.

Thanks,

ja.
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Suicidal Cyko Joe Ammond                                  ammond@gdls.CSCTMD.COM
Unix System Administrator                          Computer Sciences Corporation
           "I don't speak for Computer Sciences bla bla bla ...."
From: ah200@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Randy Beiter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Location of some sources files need, and a crashing question
Date: 9 Jan 1993 16:24:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah200@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Randy Beiter)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I was wondering where I can find the source for the utlis such as
/bin/login,ect.  I would like to play with some of the sources, but can
find none of them :)

Also, I hae a wierd problem using reboot, when I do it, 9 times out of 10
after trying to unmount all the drives it just locks instead of rebooting,
I end up pressing reset to reboot the computer, anyone know how to fix
this?

Also, one other Q, how does one get term099k working with 7bit
communications? The dial-up I have only supports 7bit connection, and term
is choking trying to send ascii > 127. Thanks much for help with any of the
above! :)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marc@r-node.pci.on.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: reap...news partition space control
Organization: R-node Public Access Unix - 1 416 249 5366
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:38:50 GMT

Hi..

	Has anyone ported over reap to Linux?  Or something
similar?

	I got the base distribution from one of the archive
sites out there, and compiled it with COHERENT defined and
it compiles, but for some reason, it doesn't check how much
space is remaining properly (keeps reporting 1024 blocks used)

	If you attempt to compile it without COHERENT defined,
it reports back that ustat.h is not found.

Thanks...

Marc

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From: root@slave.uwe.ac.uk (Operator (Phil/Dylan))
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Question and Observations
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:08:36 GMT
Reply-To: p_copela@csd.uwe.ac.uk
Organization: The New University in the West of England, Bristol (WEB)

In article <marcf.725595296@yorku.ca>, marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier)
writes:
|> pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
|> 
|> >I have repeatedly asked someone to volunteer to write a script to set
|> >permissions, but no such luck.  A real problem is that there is no
|> >real agreement on what the correct permissions/ownerships should be.
|> >How about you Marc?  Care to put your money where your mouth (or fingers)
|> are?
|> 
|> 	Give me an idea of where to start, and I'll put time into
|> helping you.  :)  My experiences have been with Commercial Unix(s),
|> which have install scripts coming out of your ears.

of possible help is a letter i got from sscalsk@nswc-wo.navy.mil (stan),
who assures me that thee is a package to do this,...

to quote :

 "Hey Phil, I agree with your assessment on FS standard being needed. But 
  there is an easy way to check files and directories for correct 
  permissions, owner, group, etc. The utility(s) are called fcc/fci. They
  allow you to take a database of information that hold what you consider
  to be correct permissions, etc and perform a match. It will report any
  errors and can perform corrections if needed. I have experimented with
  the util under Linux and it seems to work fine. I use it in a production
  environment when doing system updates as a cross-check."

Phil
=--=
From: STDN%MARIST.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Dan Newcombe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Groff's PS output isn't fit for my dog.
Date: 10 Jan 1993 23:36:58 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

This probably isn't the best place for this, but all there is under
gnu.groff is bug, and for all I know this may just be a me and
linux problem.  Anyway, I got some stuff from MIT
(export.lcs.mit.edu  /pub/R5untarred/doc/tutorial/HelloWorld) or
something like that.  Anyway, it is basically how to do the
Hello World under X.  I already had this in postscript format so I know
what it should look like, but when I ran it through gtbl and groff
I got postscript output, but instead of it being nicely formated, it
was all jumbled together, most of the text lumped into on huge paragraph.

Is this normal?  I used  gtbl xhw.0 | groff -Tps > xhw.ps  and then
looked at it using gs.  Same thing also happened when I output it as
type dvi.  Can some kind and generous soul please tell me what I am
doing wrong.  Thanks...
  -Dan

BTW, when I run it through xmkmf (there is an Imakefile) it wants
to use psroff with the option -ms.  Well, psroff didn't really work
that well for me, and -ms bombs under both, not being able to find
the macro s.  And this is the same Imake.tmpl and stuff that came
with X.  I didn't touch it...

Dan Newcombe
stdn@vm.marist.edu                        kk4d@maristb.marist.edu
dnewcomb@cybernet.cse.fau.edu             And others...
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
- Real programmers like vending machine popcorn.  Coders pop it in the
  microwave oven.  Real programmers use the heat given off by the cpu.
  They can tell what job is running just by listening to the rate of popping.
From: darcy@namao.uucp (Darcy Birkbeck)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: TelnetD problems?
Summary: Telneting into linux from outside doesn't seem to work.  Why?
Keywords: telnet
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:28:46 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

When I try to telnet into linux from another Unix machine, I get as far
as the login: prompt and then chaos.

	It allows password entry, but does not allow me to enter the line

	(Example)   Login: Joe^M

	(Prints ^M instead of entering name.)  Heeeellllpppp!!!
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: klaush@obelix.serum.kodak.com (Klaus Herrmann (28-631-2965))
Subject: Re: 99.2 and Seagate ST-01
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:39:23 GMT

In article <726741936.AA32084@remote.halcyon.com> Ulf.Bartelt@p2.f3420.n241.z2.fidonet.org (Ulf Bartelt) writes:
>Hi Pat!
>
>Thursday January 07 1993 14:51, Pat Mackinlay an All:
>
> >> I was using a ST-01 without the ROM under .99 and earlier, detected
> >> by setting the OVERRIDE variable to 0xca000 in seagate.h.
>
>What are the goodies using this override feature ?
>
>
Some poeple how are using a controller without a BIOS eg. a Future Domain
TMC-850 do need that feature. I'm using such a thing with a toshiba CDROM.
It took me a lot of time to figure out how to get that working ( tanks to Eric
who helped me )

Klaus


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: andrewc@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Re: Seyon 1.7
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:42:00 GMT

probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon) writes:

>danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon) writes:

>>I've just got Seyon-1.7 on my PC and when I installed it, I was
>>surprised that the tar placed it in a directory branching off directly
>>from the root!  Isn't this highly unusual place to install software
>>packages?  Many of us actually reserved only a small partition for root
>>and the last things I want to see is getting app packages in there!  Is
>>it OK to move that seyon directory under /usr, or somewhere else before
>>I compile the whole thing?

>>BTW, the minimal install instructions mention something about running a
>>'Configure' first. That should generate the necessary config.h header
>>file.  What is this Configure?  The only one I found was a script
>>somewhere in the linux src directory, but that had nothing to do with
>>Seyon.  So this sounds Chinese to me right off the bat! ;-)

>>Can anybody enlighten me about this?

>>.... and I thought linux was "stingy" with documentation! ;-)

>>Thanks,
>>Joe Pannon

>This may be a little new to you, but that is YOUR system, so you can put
>the packages where you want. Most packages out there shouldn't have
>paths hardcoded into them that are different from normal. Before installing
>something, you should do a 

>tar -ztvf <tar-file> to see where its going.

Besides that, I don't think it was hardcoded - tar usually strips the leading
slash to make it relative
 - you don't HAVE to untar to the directory, as was said above...
all it means is that it creates a seyon directory below the current directory
 - it's best to untat somewhere else for source
(eg. make a /usr/src dir. and untar from there)

Happy tarring and Seyoning !
(I hope 1.7 works for me - it hasn't worked for me since about version 0.5...)

Cos !

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jaggy@purplet.demon.co.uk (Mike Jagdis)
Subject: Re: PATCH: procps - avoid buffer overruns
Organization: FidoNet node 2:252/305 - The Purple Tentacle, Reading
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 13:19:00 +0000

* In message <1993Jan9.070311.26248@news.stolaf.edu>,
  Michael K. Johnson said:

MJ> This patch is to an old procps.  The new procps fixes this
MJ> bug, as well as several others.

Guess I must have missed an announcment somewhere along the line then...

MJ> Before posting patches like this, it would be
MJ> nice to offer them to the author,

I did :-). I never claimed it was an official patch. Just something that 
stops annoying core dumps...

MJ> and to check the ftp site (hint hint hint).

Well, I picked the archive I have up from tsx-11 on 1st Jan and it's 9601 
bytes long. After your mail to me I looked on tsx-11 again. The procps.tar.Z 
in BETA/procps is dated 29th Dec and is 9601 bytes long. What am I missing?

  Incidentally, I seem to remember that you said the problem wouldn't exist 
in the new version because the buffer used was the same size as a kernel 
page. Can you guarantee that the maximum length of the argument line will 
always be limited like this? Surely it would be better to limit the length 
of the copy to the size of buffer we are copying to? What? Me? Trust? Nah...

                                Mike