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From: joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  )
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Exporting Steet Atlas USA's maps in vector format?
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 01:00:50 EDT
Organization: Upchurch Computer Consulting, Orlando FL

<IO20585@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:

> Is the Street Atlas USA maps in vector format, or bitmap?
> If vector, is it possible to export the files into another format
> like DXF?

No all it does is copy a bitmap of whatever is on the screen to the
clipboard. It would be a lot handier if exported it in some sort of
vector format so I could modify it for giving directions and such.
Screen resolutions bitmaps look awful when printed. I've had to draw
maps myself to get decent results because of this limitation in
Street Atlas.

It would be nice if someone would figure out the format of the data
base in Street Atlas and write a program that would extract vector
format information from it for making your own custom maps. I'd even
pay cash money for it. It would make the Street Atlas a lot more useful.
Why don't we all write DeLorme and suggest this enhancement for their
next revision?

(If your mail bounces use the address below.)
Joel Upchurch/Upchurch Computer Consulting/718 Galsworthy/Orlando, FL 32809
joel@peora.ccur.com {uiucuxc,hoptoad,petsd,ucf-cs}!peora!joel (407) 859-0982
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,bit.listserv.cdromlan,alt.sys.sun,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: root@micom.com (Todd L. Kindig @ Micom Comm. Corp.)
Subject: Re: Multichanger CDROM software for Sun
Organization: Micom Communications Corp., Simi Valley, Ca.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:22:43 GMT

In article <18ram8INN2ol@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> dclunie@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (David Clunie) writes:
>
>I am in need of software to driver a multi-changer CDROM off a sun
>sparcstation.
>
>I am aware of the package from Tracer with the Pioneer DRM600 which
>seems like a good product, but the software alone costs over $500 !
>
>I guess I should be used to "Sun" oriented things costing more than
>other platforms, but that seems a lot !
>
>Anyone know of any alternatives ? Anyone have any experience with this
>or other products that they care to share ?
>
>Thanks ... david
>
>-- 
>David Clunie (dclunie@itd.adelaide.edu.au)

	WOW!!!!!... I have the Pioneer DRM600 and I did not spend an 
additional $500.00 for any drivers..... Whomever is trying to charge
you is NUTS!!!  God I hate it when people get taken advantage of in 
this way....
	Anyway, a simple kernel rebuild, will allow you to access al
6 disks simply by having the Sys Adm guy mount em and you using "cd"
to access em....

	Jeezzzz... 

If you need the kernel mod's, let me know and I'll email em to ya..

Hope this helped, :)
TLK

-- 

**************************************************
$ Todd L. Kindig @ Micom Communications Corp.    $
$ email: tlk@micom.com          Voice: x3503     $
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: lawson@netsun.mdc.com (Jim Lawson)
Subject: Re: Loading MSCDEX and Mouse drivers high ?
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 02:24:40 GMT
Organization: MDSSC-SSD
Reply-To: Lawson%ssdvax.decnet@lbgwy.mdc.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Thanks for the e-mail and followups !!

I guess I should have posted these lines from my config.sys to tell y'all
how I've configured my system :-)

DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\HIMEM.SYS /shadow:on
DEVICE=C:\WINDOWS\EMM386.EXE 512 ram /m9
DOS=HIGH,umb

Thanks again for the help !!!

Jim

--
Jim Lawson	Lawson%ssdvax.decnet@lbgwy.mdc.com
		Alt:	Lawson@netsun.mdc.com or Lawson@mdcbbs.com

Opinions/Comments expressed here are my own and no one elses !!
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.windows.misc
From: oldroyd@wucs1.wustl.edu (L. A. Oldroyd)
Subject: Re: 1992 MS-BookShelf CD-ROM and Win 3.1 Problem
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:44:50 GMT

In article <b3sn12d.mcp@netcom.com> mcp@netcom.com (Craig Presnell) writes:
>When I upgraded my PC to MPC with the Creative Labs
>Multimedia Upgrade Kit, I received the MS-BookShelf 
>(1992 edition) CD-ROM. It worked great with Multimedia
>Windows v1.0 and Win 3.0, but when I tried to install it
>on Win 3.1, I had serious problems. Everytime I try to
>install I get the following error:
>
>Fatal Error: error writing setup file d:\windows\system\setup.inf

I, too, had a lot of trouble with Creative Labs installation on Win 3.1,
although my trouble was with Bookshelf 1991 edition.  I finally solved the
problem (after numerous suggestions from the vendor Ultracomp and Microsoft,
none of whom had ever heard of my problem - which was not, in fact, the
problem Craig has, but involved an application error that may have been
related to an incompatible installation script) by doing a MANUAL installation,
reading and emulating by hand the installation script.  I suggest that as
a fall-back approach.

During my struggles, the vendor and Microsoft both identified another problem
that may help Craig immediately.  They identified a known problem, in that
the setup.inf file was too big to be handled by the Windows scratchpad that
was used in performing the setup.  The known solution was: remove the comment
lines in the setup.inf (keeping an unchanged, commented copy, of course) to
make it smaller.  The comment lines begin with a semi-colon (? or a full colon?
Look at setup.inf to see).

Of course, if drive d: identified in Craig's error message is the CD-ROM
reader, there would be an error writing, because the CD is read-only ;-).

A comment on multimedia, Microsoft, Creative Labs, and Ultracomp: none of
you folks really seem to KNOW the products you are selling.  You are all
very nice, and trying to be helpful, and I appreciate that.  But you really
should know your product, and make it very easy for users to get to the people
who know.  You should also know how it interacts with other systems; I got
a lot of "well, the problem is probably due to the OTHER guy's stuff", which
is not at all helpful.  Multimedia is nice, and the stuff I got runs well,
now, but it was a struggle.

Andy Oldroyd (oldroyd@wucs1.wustl.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jfk@ais.org (Jim Knight)
Subject: Re: Loading MSCDEX and Mouse drivers high ?
Organization: UMCC
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 01:46:58 GMT

lawson@netsun.mdc.com (Jim Lawson) writes:

>I discovered and am using the /e option for the mscdex which helped me free
>up a little memory. I've tried putting devicehigh=mouse.sys right after
>device=himem.sys
>device=emm386.exe
>dos=high,umb

>And it still didn't load high. 
>Is there a command line switch I should be using?

I found that for loadhigh to work, you must specify either "noems" or "ram"
on the command line for emm386.exe

try one of those.

Jim
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: sgil@netcom.com (Steve Gilbert)
Subject: Re: Walnut Creek...
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 23:18:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Sep8.150535.6569@iscsvax.uni.edu> baker1326@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>what i WOULD like to know, is what other CD-ROM's does Walnut Creek have to
>   offer? the woman on the phone was very helpful, but not especially
>   knowledgeable with respect to what the CD-ROM's actually contained.
>could someone either e-mail me, or post a listing of the Walnut Creek CD-ROM's
>   available?

You should get a Walnut Creek catalog with your disc;  I know that I have
with each of the 4 titles I've purchased from them.  They also have the
catalog, and, I believe, file listings, available on their FTP server
[cdrom.com; sorry, I don't know the numerics].

>ps. where can i get the FAQ for this newsgroup?

It's available on the WC server, too.
--
Steve Gilbert					(sgil@netcom.com)
["Just ANOTHER satisfied Walnut Creek customer" :) ]
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: KLEIN@ENH.NIST.GOV (sami klein)
Subject: CD-ROM Telephone Directories
Reply-To: sami klein <KLEIN@ENH.NIST.GOV>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:25:00 GMT

At present, we subscribe to Phonefiche from UMI. We are thinking of
cancelling this subscription because of the labor needed to maintain the
microfiche collection. Does anyone have experience and comments about the
several CD-ROM titles available, namely:
     ProDirect by UMI
     PhoneDisc National Set, by PhoneDisc USA
     American Business Phone Book, by Americn Business Directories
Thanks

Sami Klein
National Institute of Standards and Technology
Gaithersburg, MD
KLEIN@NBSENH.BITNET
From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Pioneer DRM600
Date: 5 Sep 92 07:01:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 

To: jack@admin.mport.COM (Jack Craig)

Trade the unit in on a Toshiba 4-stack. Then you can use the disconnect

JC>this is the first i have heard of such a unit. can you refer me to 
JC>get more info?

You can pick them up from Marshall Electronics, I believe. It uses four
Toshiba 3301s in a tower case, and is manufactured by Toshiba. Great 
unit. Much better than the Panasonic changer, but with a higher price
tag.

If you can't find them at Marshall, send Email and I'll check my last PO.

As far as specs, all you need to do is check the specs on the Toshiba
3301 single external, since they will be identical.
---
 . KingQWK 1.05 . 

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From: dcb@mulka.ph.unimelb.edu.au (David Bell)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.multimedia
Subject: SB CDROM DRIVE PROBLEMS ?
Date: 10 Sep 92 07:16:38 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cd-rom
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia


	I have recently noticed a small problem that I am having 
with my Sound Blaster CD-ROM drive (The one that comes with the
Multimedia Kit). 
	The symptom is that when you do a 'dir' on the cdrom drive
it frequently responds with 'not reading drive L abort, cancel, retry',
after firstly  logging most of the directories but not all. If you then 'retry'
several times it does finally respond, and then manages to log the whole disk.
	This problem seems only to happen on disks with more than say 
800 files and also happens under xtgold and similar. I realize that there 
is sometimes a delay between when you insert a new disk and when dos 
can read it but, this is a different problem.
	I get the impression that the laser head gets stuck and you 
have to try a few times before it frees and will read the rest of the 
disk. 
	Has anybody else encountered this problem with the same cdrom or 
perhaps a different one ? If so is there a solution ? The problem is not
'fatal' but is annoying.
	Any and all comments welcome and appreciated.
	Many Thanks,
	David
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  INTERNET  :-dcb@electron.ph.unimelb.edu.au

 Linus:- Don't worry about tomorrow Charlie Brown, Just worry about today.
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: WALDNER@EDVZ.UNI-KLAGENFURT.ADA.AT
Subject: cdrom recorder
Reply-To: WALDNER@EDVZ.UNI-KLAGENFURT.ADA.AT
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:11:10 GMT

We are in search for a dealer/distributor in the US for the
Philips CDROM Recorder CDD521 or similar.
This hardware can produce single or low quantity copies
If anybody knows a compony which is selling that device
please let us know (address and fax number needed)
Thank you in advance.

Dr. Walter Waldner, General Manager of Starcom Austria
/Exit
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From: slang@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,bit.listserv.cdromlan
Subject: CD-ROM drives for Infoserver
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:39:31 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

I am trying to find out what other types of CD-ROM drives other people have
successfully been able to get to work with DEC Infoserver?

My inclination is that a SCSI Sony drive should be a good bet, as the DEC drive
(RRD42) is based on that mechanism, but I haven't been able to get hold of one
to try out.

The Chinon ones I have tried didn't seem to work. Any one elses experience would
be greately appreciated.

Cheers
-- 
	   Drink is the curse		Steve Lang
	of the working class man	Systems Programmer Analyst
	Work is the curse of the	University of Waikato
	   Drinking class man		Hamilton
					NEW ZEALAND
					<slang@waikato.ac.nz>
					Ph	+64-7-856 2889 Ext 8341
					Fax	+64-7-838 4066

I am not responsible for my employers opinion (thank heavens,) and neither are
they for mine.
From: 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Information on Sony H
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 05:27:11 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

In article <2753.1188.uupcb@spacebbs.com>, kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) writes:
>
>No, no, no! Those 300kb transfer speeds do not effect the access time at all.
>The NEC 84 still has a 280ms access time, not 140ms. 
>
>These 2x and 4x drives will only transfer data at the higher rate, once it
>has located it. That is important if you want to display 30 frames per 
>second video, for example, or if you have very large files you want to copy.
>For database applications, it is almost worthless.
>
>                                                                                                    
Ok, so lets try this again, are you saying that it will have 1200kb transfer
speeds at 4x????

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: mdroid@world.std.com (WRM)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM article.
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:14:57 GMT

In article <00960685.CD11A0E0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>>	NEC CDR-73
>>	    CDR-37
>>
>>The NEC CDR-83 is probably OK, too, but he said there were
>>problems with the NEC CDR-74 and CDR-84 drives. He did not
>>elaborate as to what the problems were. I found this very
>>disappointing, since I had planned on getting a CDR-84. I may
>>have to rethink.
>>
>>Larry Mittag
>
>Just a clarification here, the CDR-83 was the same as the CDR-73 less
>the outside case and powersuply...the drive itself was the same.  NOw
>as far as the CDR-74 and CDR-84 go, I find it hard to belive(though not
>completely) that NEC would make their "improved" drives, less compatable
>with the standard.  If any one can add more to this, I would greatly like
>to hear about it.
>
>Thanks
>JOE
>


NEC claims through their bbs that the CDR-74 and 84 are fully compatible
in single session mode. Support for multiple sessions is currently under
investigation. As with the 73, the 74 is a packaged 84. You can call their
bbs at 1-508-6356163 in you need further info.

-w
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: rwtucker@STARBASE.MITRE.ORG ("Richard W. Tucker")
Subject: NEC CD-ROMs are not multisession
Reply-To: "Richard W. Tucker" <rwtucker@STARBASE.MITRE.ORG>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:58:35 GMT

   >I am sure from what I have read that the NEC 74/84 series IS
   >Photo-CD capable.
   >
   >Can anyone in the know confirm or refute the information in the
   >MacWorld article?
   >
   >Victor

New Media magazine had a review of CD-ROM players in their September
1992 issue.  In the same issue NEC has an ad including their CDR-74
(external), 84 (internal), and 37 (portable).  The ad explicitly says
"What's more, they're all Photo CD capable[#]".  That [#] is a dagger
footnote that says "Single session disc only".  NEC's previous ads did
not include that clarification.

Before seeing that I was going to buy a NEC due to its fast(er) 300
KB/sec data transfer capability.  Now it is not under consideration:
to me, Photo CD means multisession.  (However, Kodak may start rolling
out additional Photo CD formats which include voice, etc., according
to other articles.)

Turning back to New Media magazine's review of CD-ROM players...  Only
one reviewed brand supported multisession with the fast(er) 300 KB/sec
data transfer: Texel America's DM-3024 (internal) and DM-5024
(external).  Their number is +1-800-886-3935.

Anyone have any experience with Texel?

Related question:  what's the difference between MPC-1 and MPC-2
(Multimedia PC requirements) that affect CD-ROM players?

 - Rick Tucker, rwtucker@mitre.org
From: ag129@cl.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: CD-ROM article.
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:26:41 GMT
Reply-To: ag129@cl.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Organization: U of Cambridge Comp Lab, UK

In article <BuKqx4.75K@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>   I don't know if multi-session
>CD's are a legitimate extension or manufacturer-specific feature.

>Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the standards before
>jumping to conclusions based on articles in popular magazines.

Quite.

Multi-session CDs are an extension to CD-ROM/XA, not to Photo-CD, because
they are _standard_ in Photo-CD. If you transfer two rolls of film on to
a disc, at different times, you will _always_ have a multi-session CD.
Bill Williams is quite right to make the point that manufacturers with old
stock may push their XA drives as Photo-CD compatible; after all, people 
were (are?) still selling mode-1 drives when it was obvious that XA was
important. The only solution is to demand _field-upgradable_ drives.
From: bpjcmjr@coos.dartmouth.edu (Patricia A. Crossett)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Can't display GIFs Galore CD ROM  on Mac
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:39:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: bpjcmjr@coos.dartmouth.edu

I have been unable to convert the format of the GIFs on the GIFs Galore CD ROM to a
form which can be read by QuickGif or other GIF viewers.  Does someone know the
correct transformation to make?  I have no problem reading the files from the CD ROM
itself.

Bob Crossett
bpjcmjr@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: MegaRom 2
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:17:15 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

In the latest issue of Windows Magazine (Oct 92) I saw an add in the back
for Profit Press' MegaRom 2.  Did anyone get this disc yet?  I bought
the first one a while ago (when it first came out) and thoroughly enjoyed
it.  It also says all discs come with MegaSearch for Windows 3.1  I have
the MegaSearch for Dos version with my disc.  Will the software work with
the original disc or do I have to buy the disc again to get the specific
software for MegaRom 1 to work in windows 3.1?
 - Kirk
From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: cdrom recorder
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:17:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 

To: WALDNER@EDVZ.UNI-KLAGENFURT.ADA.AT
Wr>
Wr>We are in search for a dealer/distributor in the US for the
Wr>Philips CDROM Recorder CDD521 or similar.
Wr>This hardware can produce single or low quantity copies
Wr>If anybody knows a compony which is selling that device
Wr>please let us know (address and fax number needed)
Wr>Thank you in advance.

CD-ROM Inc. carries the drive bundled with the Personal Publisher
software for $7995. Phone: 303 231-9373  Fax: 303 231-9581
Address: 1667 Cole Blvd #400 Golden, CO  80401
---
 . KingQWK 1.05 # 141 . Every politician has a price, some hold bargain sales.
                                    
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: OPSRJH@UCCVMA.UCOP.EDU (Richard Hintz)
Subject: CDROM-L administrivia
Reply-To: Richard Hintz <OPSRJH@uccvma.ucop.edu>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:42:57 GMT

alt.cdrom readers should ignore this.

First, I don't know why personal mail is being included in postings to CDROM-L.
I suspect a faulty LAN mail gateway at Cornell and I've removed the
subscriber.

Second, I suspect it's useless to mention this, but if you subscribed to
CDROM-L and you're having problems signing off, please send me a note.
Do not send a note to the whole list.

Third, if you have access to netnews/usenet/whatever consider subscribing
to alt.cdrom and signing off CDROM-L.

Last, if you're a subscriber and you stop getting mail, it may be that I
removed you because your account or site was bouncing mail.  Just
resubscribe.  If this happens repeatedly, complain to your local mail
maintainer and me.

  Richard Hintz  opsrjh@uccvma.ucop.edu  opsrjh@uccvma
  University of California
From: 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Information on Sony HS-12
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 02:43:27 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

In article <2740.1188.uupcb@spacebbs.com>, kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen)  writes:
>SR>I have seen ads recently for a Sony drive model HS-1200 that with
>SR>SCSI interface, 280ms access and 300KB transfer rate.  Is anyone
>SR>familiar with the drive, or how I could get information on it?

>HS-1200 is not a Sony model number. I've seen that model number in a
>High Technology advertisement; I think it was an OEM version using
>an NEC drive, which matches the specs you gave above
>

Sony's fastest drive at presnet runns 320ms..I think so I would have to agree.
ONe question though...when you say 4x, are you saying we will get them
down to 80ms?...that would be major league cool...640mb at 80ms!

JOE
From: carre@ens-lyon.fr (Giles Carre)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Problems with Inspire Drives
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:16:40 GMT
Reply-To: carre@ens-lyon.fr
Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure de Lyon

1. We have many problems of quality with erasable optical Inspire disks,
   from Alphatronix (one on a Macintosh, and two on Sun Sparc Stations) :
	. unreadable sectors on disks (on almost new disks too)
	  ==> loss of data
	. impossibility to certify some new disks
	. station crash during access to bad disks (no under root login)

We use version 2.30.1 (with a true license) of the software with SunOS 4.1.1.


2. Is there a possibility to not use the special driver provided by
   Alphatronix, and to be able to certify the new (or bad) disks, and
   to lock the eject button. It's because the driver upgrade is very
   expensive : in France, about $1200 for one licence on Sun. Special
   thanks to Alphatronix for their licensed and protected driver.

---
Giles Carre                                   | Phone : (33) 72 72 84 12
Centre de Ressources Informatiques            | Fax   : (33) 72 72 80 80
Ecole Normale Superieure - 46, allee d'Italie | Giles.Carre@ens.ens-lyon.fr
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: jhs@ipsa.reuter.com (Henri Schueler)
Subject: Re: Loading MSCDEX and Mouse drivers high ?
Organization: H&h Software, Toronto, Ontario
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:01:51 GMT

In article <1-xn13_@lynx.unm.edu> Lawson%ssdvax.decnet@lbgwy.mdc.com writes:
>Assuming I have enough upper memory, is it possible to load the MSCDEX cd-rom
>and the Microsoft Mouse drivers into upper memory ?
>If I do a lh mscdex it doesn't seem to load and if I do the same with the mouse
>driver it doesn't go into upper memory.

I use 386max as my mem manager, and as the loader.
I am able to load both programs high, *except* that
when I load mscdex high, it appears to distrust how much
memory is available to it, and thus ignores my /M: 
(leaving me with a default of 6 or 8 buffers). So right
now I'm running mscdex low, but with /E so that my buffers
come from expanded memory (this is not ideal for me, since
I normally never use expanded memory, and this costs me
a page frame (64k) from my upper memory).
/jhs

-- 
J. Henri Schueler, H&h Software, Toronto	+1 416 698 9075 
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