From: rajain@sml11.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN!
Organization: Project Pilgrim, Umass
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:21:10 GMT

In article <Bx7Eus.7Lt@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, hsingh@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Harpreet Singh) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov1.104649.3083@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy) writes:
|> > 
|> > In article <Bx07B1.n4A@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> hsingh@cayley.uwaterloo.ca 
|> > (Harpreet Singh) writes:
|> > >What's wrong in asking for KHALISTAN?
|> > >
|> > >Harpreet Singh
|> > 
|> >      What is wrong with chopping someone's arm ? A nation is a man, living
|> >  and breathing. You will feel the pain only if you were a part of this 
|> >  nation. So don't bother asking. You will never understand it.
|> > 
|> >  Raja
|> > 
|> > >
|> 
|> What about the pain of killing 10,000 Sikhs during the 1984 riots.?

	I am not sure of the number and anyways I believe that every
	human life is sacred...so 1 killed or 10,000 killed...the pain 
	should be the same.

	You brought up a good question here........Indeed, the demand 
	for Khalistan is to ease away (in your words) "the pain of
	killing 10,000 Sikhs during the 1984 riots". I respect your
	feelings towards the stupid (sorry...my vocabulary is limited) 
	killings in 1984. BUT !!! If you are *any* good at mathematics,
	I would HIGHLY appreciate if you could also post the numbers on
	the number of innocents massacared in Punjab (and other states
	too) by these "We_want_Khalistan Terrorists" !!! While compiling
	the list (or numbers) please keep in mind that the killings of
	innocents in Punjab have been going on for last 10 years (1982) or
	so AND *on an average* about 30 people are killed DAILY !!!! (my
	averages might be waaaayy-off). Please do the arithmatic and let
	us know about the total numbers. While you are at it, also go
	into *that* portion of your heart which felt the pain of the 
	killings of 10,000 sikhs in 1984 and see if you feel the same 
	pain for the _________ (fill in the numbers yourself) innocents
	killed by the terrorists in last 10 years!! THEN, and only then, 
	ask if the pain is felt by the general populace !! (no! no! don't get
	me wrong. I am NOT saying that the "lack" (if any) of pain over 
	killing of sikhs is justifiable by terrorist butchering of innocents
	for past 10 years.). Maybe you have been in US or Canada for a long
	time to check out the newspapers in India. Can you believe that
	these days (actually even 3 years ago) daily reports of killing of 
 	25-30 people in Punjab by the ****ing terrorists do NOT arouse too much 
	of reaction from the public !!! (if the killings are not group-killings).
	*WE* (Indians) have become so ****ing immune because we have been seeing 
	these reports day after day, week after week, month after month, and
	year after year FOR LAST 10 YEARS !!!!! 
	

|> Did u ever feel any pain for them??.  I really felt that i was part
|> of the nation before those riots that were arranged by Rajiv Gandu and
|> his M.P's, many of whom are still in power.  That's what u call a 
|> nation who just kill their own people.  I was there in New Delhi during 
|> the riots and I know how i feel.  So u should stop acting so patriotic
|> and shut up.  What were u doing during those Riots of 1984??
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	If you ask *me*....I was as scared as any sikh (eventhough I 
	am a hindu !) and was trying to make sure that none of the
	rioters harm my family!!! Did you really think that the rioters
	in general were after sikhs ? (of course the Cong(I) MP's etc.
	were...but I am talking about the "others"). Man! if you were in
	Delhi (as you say you were), you should have peeked into the house of
	your next door neighbour (if he was hindu) and see that he was in
	a similar danger as anyone else. Of course, the sikhs were the ones
	who were in Danger level 1, and frankly speaking I myself feel so 
	ashamed whenever see allll those M***** ****ers still in power !!!
	Can't we, the Indians, do anything ? We know that we don't support 
	these MP's...but I guess student community (in particular) in India
	has yet to realise the power that lays in their strength !!!


|> 
|> There is nothing wrong in asking for KHALISTAN, and God willing we we'll
|> get it in my life time.  Why stay in India where u never know when u can
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|> be killed by the people in power.  Why were there no riots when Rajiv
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	Are you in India ?  If *you* don't wanna stay in India....don't !!
	Why in the hell do you wanna separate India AND impose your own
	philosophy on the general populace of Punjab, huh ?  

	As far as your other question goes, there were no riots when Rajiv
	"Gandu" died because, as far as *my* memory stretches, I still
	cannot recall if some prominent person with the name of "Rajiv Gandu"
	esisted in India whose death should have resulted (as you expect)
	in riots !!! ....wwwwwwaaaaaait a minute....I *do* recall that there
	was a PM by the name of "Rajiv Gandhi" but "Rajiv Gandu"...........
	......sorry still can't recall that name !



|> Gandu died.???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
|> 
|> Harpreet Singh
|>   
|> 


						Rajat.

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