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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Random Thoughts on Weekend Games
Keywords: Philadelphia 20, New York Giants 10
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:42:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Bills at Houston: Don't you Oiler fans wish Houston played like this every
week?  What a pass rush... 7 sacks against an offensive line which has allowed
only 22 this season! Next week comes revenge time.  However, Frank Reich will
be the starting QB so things could get verrryy interrresting!

Raiders at Skins: What a game! What a game!  For the third straight week, the
Skins have provided one of the greatest games of the week.  Seems like Al Davis
is driving the Raiders deep into the ground to satify his own ego.  Every time
Marcus touched the ball, he mad something happen.  Even the (supposed) 
pro-Skins announcers couldn't say enough about him.  With a scrambling QB, the
Raiders earn one of their most exciting wins of the season... kinda makes you
wonder what their season would've been like if they traded for that other
scrambling QB.

Bears at Cowboys: Singletary's last game.  After dominting the game for most
of 4 quarters, JJ puts the reserves in and they manage to let Chicago back
into it.  Zorich returns a fumble for a TD. Woolford intercepts a Beuelein pass
that sets up a TD.  If only that last fumble recovery was returned for a TD.
Anyways, congrats to Boyz fans for a franchise record of wins.

Green Bay at Vikes: Congrats to Sterling for the reception record. Congrats
to the Vikes for finally realizing that Salisbury was a good QB. 20-33, for
292 yards and 2 TDs.  As Chris Berman said Salisbury showed he was a steak, 
a filet mignon!  GB fans, you had a great run and here's to better things
next year.

SD at Seattle: Well just when Gelbaugh finally starts to look like a decent
QB and Chris Warren gets the running game going... the season ends!  Who's
this Gagliano dude?  He looked pretty decent for someone coming off the bench.
Congrats to SD for winning the division.

Denver at KC: "Revenger of the Shottenheimer" or "How I learned to stop
blaming my offense and loved the pass rush".  KC scores more TDs by their
defense than most teams did with their offense.  Thomas... 3 sacks, 2 forced
fumbles and a TD!  Hope they can keep this going through the playoffs.

Miami at NE: Loved that 1 yard punt.  Didn't Theismann kick one of these?
Anyways, Miami didn't look too great and I am starting to question how far
they can go in the playoffs.  Hopefully Shula and Marino can pull something
off!

satish nair
ray is gone!

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From: gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Re: Hey Ed Lor, Bills 4-0 vs NFC, one more NFC team to beat
Organization: Stay Awake Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 01:02:11 GMT

<1992Dec23.054104.28536@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor):
><42811@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> msanfrat@cs.ucsd.edu (Mike Sanfratello) writes:
>I probably won't. Learning how to wimp out an argument by claiming "I just
>suck you ...

>>I sucked you ...

>Really? I sucked you ...

...

>>posts.  But then again, I have more to do than spend 39 of my 40 hours
>>at work responding to pointless, useless, inneffectual verbiage.

This sounds like a very personal conversation that should probably be
taken to e-mail.


Gordon
-- 
The opinions expressed are my own, and not the beliefs or opinions
of whatever company you think I work for.  So there, thhhbbbt!
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From: wallyt@cserver.plexus.com (Wally Thomson)
Subject: Re: What is a "Packer"? Viking fan wants to know
Organization: Plexus Corp. -- Neenah Wisconsin
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:29:46 GMT

horn@tegan.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Horn) writes:

>In article <1992Dec16.195725.10877@data-io.com> dietz@parody.Data-IO.COM (Kent Dietz) writes:
>>Also, why was Green Bay 
>>chosen as a NFL site?  
>>What population base is drawn from? Milwaukie and ...?

>I think it has more to do with the fact that the Green Bay Packers are one of
>the oldest football teams there is (are they THE oldest?)  Anyway they've
>always been a part of football and they've always been in Green Bay.

>Another important fact is that the city of Green Bay owns the Green Bay
>Packers.  As far as I know, this is a unique situation in the NFL.  I doubt


As I understand it, this is not exactly correct, they are owned by shareholders
from all around, mostly based in G.B. and Milwaukee.  The city of G.B. does not
own the team.
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From: rhoenes@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Richard Hoenes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Playoff question
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:29:06 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


Possible sinario:                                                               
                                                                                
SF (bye)                                                                        
Dallas (bye)                                                                    
Washington at Minnesota                                                         
Philadelphia at NO                                                              
                                                                                
Let's say Minnesota and NO win, then you have                                   
                                                                                
SF                                                                              
Dallas                                                                          
Minnesota                                                                       
NO                                                                              
                                                                                
Who plays who? Does SF play NO since NO is a wild card team even if they        
have a better record then Minnesota? There used to be a rule that said          
a division winner couldn't play a wild card from their own division             
until the Championship game (this was with the old playoff format), is          
that sill in effect?                                                            
                                                                                
Richard
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: IN YOUR FACE!!!!
Date: 25 Dec 92 21:47:06 GMT
Organization: UB

Sunday Night, Buffalo at Houston. In Your Face!!

Prediction: Buffalo 20
	    Houston 17
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Ray Handley signs 4 year Deal
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:13:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Yup it was definitely a sick joke.  Timmy was just trying to give me a
heart attack (of course, when the Cowboys lose their defensive coordinator
to the GIANTS, I'll be laughing last Tim :-).

Seriously , though, one thing to keep in mind is that many of the potential
head coaching candidates haven't finished out their season:  Tom Coughlin
and his BC Eagles will face Tennesse in the Hall of Fame Bowl and of course
Dave Wannstedt's defense is still in post-season play.  So, we may not hear
anything for a while but that's not necessarily for the worse...

satish nair
ray is gone!

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: pjl2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul J Landsberg)
Subject: Re: FINALLY! Ray is OUT!
Reply-To: pjl2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul J Landsberg)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:22:41 GMT

J.P. Haid writes:
>
>        And Dan Reeves needs a job in New York!
>

I believe George Young made a statement yesterday, effectively ruling
out Dan Reeves.  It was along the lines of "Reeves wants more control
of the organization than we [the Giants org.] are comfortable in 
giving up."

Paul L.



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From: drhall1@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Subject: Re: For New York Giants Fans
Reply-To: drhall1@PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:29:39 GMT

In article <102922@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.002632.25620@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu) writes:
>>Ray Handley and Rod Rust **must** GO!!
>>
>>End of Discussion.
>>
>>But who can we get to replace them?
>>
>Tom Coughlin, head coach of the Boston College football team.  He was with the
>GIANTS organization but left to take up head coaching job at B.C.  He has
>done tremendous things with that offense especially with Chucky Dukes and their
>QB (whose name escapes me).  All right so they got blown out by Notre Dame but
>Coughlin has made the most out of his personnel.
>
>GIANTS management has their sights on him.

Does this statement mean that there is a short list already? Any rumors about
who the other candidates are?

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From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: Re: For New York Giants Fans
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:28:53 GMT

In article <102922@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.002632.25620@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu) writes:
>>Ray Handley and Rod Rust **must** GO!!
>>
>>End of Discussion.
>>
>>But who can we get to replace them?
>
>Tom Coughlin, head coach of the Boston College football team.  He was with the
>GIANTS organization but left to take up head coaching job at B.C.  He has
>done tremendous things with that offense especially with Chucky Dukes and their
>QB (whose name escapes me).  All right so they got blown out by Notre Dame but
>Coughlin has made the most out of his personnel.

I would suggest the Def. Cord. of the Vikings as the GIANTS head coach.


			RIC. IRVIN
			AT&T BELL LABORATORIES.

"TOUCHDOWN !!!! ... just kidding Dad! " my son at 18 months.

"In football, good hitting usually beats good pitching."

"... Lawrence Taylor was all over him... like syrup on pancakes." John Madden.

"...This Game is being broadcast in stereo..." Pat Summerall.
"...What does spit sound like in stereo? "	John Madden.

			PEACE.
>GIANTS management has their sights on him.
>
>Ironically, the name of the B.C. football team is... the Eagles :-)
>
>satish nair
>giants (6-10 in '92)


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From: horn@tegan.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Horn)
Subject: Re: Green to go full strength against the Pack.
Organization: NASA Johnson Space Center
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:05:07 GMT

In article <Bzn6vL.Hup@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder ) writes:

[ ..stuff deleted.. ]

>Any comments on this from other Vike-fans???

Well, I'm a Packer fan - and I'm heading home to WI.  I can't wait to watch
this game.  Gonna be a good one, I think.

Go PACKERS 
Go RAIDERS
Go GIANTS

- sparkie
horn@mickey.jsc.nasa.gov
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From: cpg@caribbean.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Curt Goedde)
Subject: Re: For New York Giants Fans
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:21:01 GMT

In article <4219@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM>, tdonnell@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Tom Donnelly) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec22.002632.25620@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu) writes:
|> >Ray Handley and Rod Rust **must** GO!!
|> >
|> >End of Discussion.
|> >
|> >But who can we get to replace them?
|> 
|>  A good question.  I have seen the rumors about Parcells wanting to come
|>  back here on the net, but who else is available, and could they handle
|>  the NY Press and us ever - loving fans?
|> 

    Two other names being tossed around by the NY/NJ press are
    Dave Wannstedt (sp?) (defensive coordinator for the Cowboys) and
    John Robinson (ex-coach of the Rams).


-- 
Curt Goedde                    |    Bell Communications Research
cpg@caribbean.bellcore.com     |    Piscataway, NJ
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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: AFC vs. NFC drivel
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:27:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.062755.2866@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>Gary, you've obviously never taken a course in EdLorian Logic (tm).  :-)
No, because I never taught him anything like

   A doesn't imply B, thus A is "boring/not interesting/not right ...."

He must have learned it from you.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
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From: rex@cs.washington.edu (Rex Jakobovits)
Subject: Who will QB for Houston?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 08:49:05 GMT

Anybody have news about the QB situation in Houston?  I heard Moon was
ready to come back.  Is this certain?  Or is the game expected to be
in Carlson's hands again?

Speaking of QB rivalries, what's the latest on Montana vs. Young?  Do
you think Young will sit back and relax while Montana steals the show,
or will Young come out with cannons blazing to prove he's the best?

  --rex

-- 
	Rex Jakobovits (rex@cs.washington.edu)
	Dept. of Computer Science and Engineering
	University of Washington
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Best Passing Performances, 1992
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:57:33 GMT

This seemed to be a better year for running backs than for
QBs, how did the RBs stack up in '92?
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From: johna@psdcae1.gvg.tek.com (John Abt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: What's Up With Cofer?
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:42:08 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Dec30.071535.21999@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>    .... The facts are, he got off
>to a very poor start, and was booed mercilessly. Then he rebounded and
>has done well since then, but has gotten very little respect for his
>efforts. Then he goes and misses one field goal attempt on a muddy field
>in a driving rain, and he gets booed for it. Wouldn't you be tempted to
>give the middle digit to those fans, too?

yes.  What killed me was the replay of Cofer's "thank you" that ABC was
so kind to provide. Oh, yeah, the Rathman nose clearing shot was another
great one...

john abt
From: vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Charger-mania..
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:37:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.kfEEhFu00WDKMFlpdq
Distribution: na
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 29-Dec-92 Charger-mania..
hyderabadi@sdcc3.ucsd.ed (1251)


> ..has hit SD in full force. The "the BOLT is back" T-shirt

Is there any way I could get you to send me one of these, Prashanth? I'd
gladly pay S&H! Hell, I might even throw in a tip for you! :)

> Notes:

> * Humphries outlook looks positive. The swelling in the left shoulder 
>   has gone down, and he has good motion in that shoulder. Ross indicated
>   that Humphries might even see some practise time Wed and/or Thur.

well, if he doesn't play, at least he'll practice, and we need him in
pratice to keep that winning attitude going! we *must* win this game to
get any respect in the league--since Denver only finished 8-8 we didn't
beat a single team with a better than .500 mark this year! I've got a
bet with a friend of mine who is a KC fan--if Humphries plays then the
bet is for team jackets (the $40-50 NFL Starter jackets) if he doesn't
then the bet is for hockey tix (Go Pens!!). I really hope Stan plays! ;D

> * There are no serious injuries to other players. Some have niggling 
>   injuries, but they will all play.

good to hear....who are the players with "niggling" injuries?

> * The game on Sat is a sell-out.

what a novelty! :D

> * The SD @ Sea game last Sunday pull a 35.6 rating and a 63% share in
> SD. By the end of the game, it was a 38.8 rating and a 68% share.

Damn! Damndamndamn! Twice this year NBC carried a Chargers game as the
nationally televised game and BOTH F*CKING TIMES the NBC affiliate here
in Pittsburgh carried only the Pittsburgh game. In fact, the first time
it happened the announcers mentioned during the Pittsburgh game that the
SD game *couldn't* be shown in Pittsburgh due to NFL regulations. What
the hell are these regulations?? The only broadcast regulations I knew
of are the ones for blackouts of non-sellout games in the region of the
home team.....

> * SD schedule for next season:

>      Home: KC, Rdrs, Sea, Den, Mia, Hou, Minn, TB
>      Away: KC, Rdrs, Sea, Den, Pitt, Ind, GB, Chi

>   [AFC West plays NFC Central]

Wow! Three years in a row that we play Pittsburgh! Third times the
charm, so hopefully we'll beat them next year! ....of course we might
get our third shot at them a lot sooner than next season....! ;D

--Vernon.
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Kudos to the WINNERS
Date: 28 Dec 1992 19:02:40 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1992Dec28.181712.10580@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:

 >Despite all the rivarly and flames, it has been fun and I never
 >take any these stuff seriously. It is only a game. Again,
 >kudos to the all the teams that made it!
 >-- 
 > ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	


Damn now look what you went and done, JPG's being nice, it must 
be the Christmas thang. :-)

 
Hey it's fun to woof guys & gals but it's all just in fun,
don't take life so seriously, it's not like you're gonna get
out of it alive.....

Lets get ready to RUMBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBLE !!!!!!!

Go Dallas
The Timinator
From: mb@cray.com (Maynard Brandt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NEW VIKING QB?!
Keywords: Sean,
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:43:09 GMT
Organization: Cray Research Inc

In article <1992Dec28.220011.13002@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> smaus@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Maus) writes:
>
>I have a feeling that Dennis Green and the Vikings organization will sit
>down after the season is over and start to have talks with none other than
>---- JOE MONTANA!!!  What better choice to have especially since Green
>used to be on the SF crew!!
>
>M
>MONTANA WILL BECOME A VIKING IN 1993 ! ! ! ! !
>
>SCOTT

Yeah, and they will promptly trade Montana to Dallas for (sp?) Buerlein,
4 players and 7 draft choices. :)
-- 
Regards,

Maynard Brandt
Cray Research, Inc.
Organization: Junior, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:05:55 -0500 
From: Cem Akin <ca0y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Neil O'Donnel/Eric Green - What's Their Status

O'Donnel practiced lightly and says he feels o.k. He is currenty listed
as doubtful for the Brownies game. X-rays indicate that his leg is
healing well.
He might play Sunday-- God knows they need him.

Green is eligible to play in Sunday's game if the Steelers decide to
activate him. They have a one week roster exemption for him if they
decide he's not ready. HE passed his physical and has been training
during his 6-week layoff-- he'll probably play Sunday-- God knows they
need him!

Bythe way, MRI tests on Foster reveal no serious injury aside from a
back sprain-- he'll probably play Sunday-- God knows they need him!!!


Steelers win + Dolphins win + Oilers Win = Home field throughout
playoffs for                                                        
                                                                       
STEELERS

Go
Steelers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO
Dolphins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Go
Oilers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Jamaican Fiend.
From: tobias@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Tobias)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: AFC vs. NFC drivel
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:59:34 GMT
Reply-To: tobias@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Tobias)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


    To settle this, does anyone have stats showing W-L records for
regular season games AFC vs. NFC? That would provide a larger data base
than just comparing Super Bowl records. The trend since the merger,
if there is a trend, would also be interesting. Some sports mags must
have done this in the past. It would be alot more objective than going
by what totally biased AFC or NFC woofers say!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster)
Subject: Re: Dan Reeves has been fired!
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:44:17 GMT

In article <spork.725745809@camelot>
spork@camelot.bradley.edu (Richard Izzo) writes:
 
>In <168CD8237.MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster) writes:
>
>>Shanahan is clearly the front-runner for the job, with Wade Phillips a
>>close second.  First, Bowlen likes Shanahan a lot.  Reeves' firing
>>Shanahan may be the biggest reason Reeves was canned.  At Bowlen's
>>press conference after the firing, he stated that Shanahan was the one
>>he wanted, but that he had not discussed the position with Shanahan,
>>and was not sure Shanahan wants it (big laugh).
>>Wade Phillips would probably be the better choice, but Bowlen said
>>words to the effect (Oh, yeah....if Wade wants to apply I'll talk to
>>him."  Too bad.  Phillips will not work for Shanahan, and Phillips is
>>probably more responsible for the Broncos' wins than Reeves over the
>>past few years.  Phillips is a defensive genius, and his defensive
>>schemes have hidden the Broncos' personnel deficiencies for years.
>
>Wait a minute...don't I recall Mr. Shanahan doing miserably with the
>Raiders?  I also recall him not being very popular with the players.
>Correct me if I'm wrong here, but if I'm right, wouldn't making
>Shanahan head coach be a NEGATIVE move?
>
>Just a thought.
>
>rich.
 
And a very good thought it is.  I said above Phillips would probably be
a better choice.  Shanahan is very good friends with Pat Bowlen and
John Elway, though, and that probably gives him the inside track.
Shanahan was popular with everyone here, except for one Dan Reeves.
His problems in La-La Land were more with Al Davis than anyone else,
and he was never accepted as a "true Raider" by the players.
 
Shanahan could be a great coach, or a bust again....who knows?
 
Jim McMaster