HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0.0 uucp
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:18:30 GMT
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kalki@lakes.trenton.sc.us (kalki) writes:
: 
:  Ok. I have gotten uucp to work, sort of...(had to create a new modemcap
:  entry for my modem). I successfully downloaded the file "howto.start"
:  from mwcbbs using the command:
: 
:    "uucp /mwcbbs!/usr/spool/uucppublic/mwcnews/howto.start /tmp"
: 
:  It worked. my /tmp directory now contained the file "howto.start"!
: 
: Now, the file "howto.start"  says that in order to download any more
: files from mwc I must first download the file "mwcbbs.tar.Z" from the
: directory: "/usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/updates".
: 
: Ok. So I used the command:
: 
: "uucp mwcbbs!/usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/updates/mwcbbs.tar.Z /tmp"
: 
: The connection was made, information was sent, but nothing appeared in
: my /tmp directory. Anyone have the answer? I tried it several times, but
: my long-distance phone budget is rapidly approaching zero.

Type uulog mwcbbs | more and you'll see what goes wrong. If the line
quallity is poor uucico aborts the connection. You'll see something
like `lost packet from other side' in the log.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: bakowskr@wm-mercer.ca (Ron Bakowski)
Subject: SCCS
Organization: William M. Mercer Limited, Toronto, Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:02:56 GMT

Pardon my *newness* to USENET and Coherent...

	Does there exist the source to an SCCS or SCCS-like clone which
	I might run under Coherent 4.0?
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: news, new groups, and bounced mail
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:22:01 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt) writes:

> I don't know about the mail, usually it is sent to usenet@your-host.  If
> you cared about either installing wnews right or changing that name in 
> the header file as mentioned in the install description, the mail will not
> bounce.  I guess you don't have usenet in you /etc/passwd.

Or add an alias for usenet in /usr/lib/mail/aliases. At the moment I send it
all to user "news", but I can change that without having to alter all the
various programs that expect a "usenet" address.

						- k
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Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: morley@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Subject: Re: Deleting Masterboot without reinstalling?
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:14:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.210132.25253@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>, thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:
> umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk) writes:
> 
>>thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:
> 
>>>I'm looking at removing Coh from my PC to reinstall on a deicated machine.
>>>Is there an easy way to delete Masterboot from my hard drive without
>>>going thru the reinstall procedure?
> 
>>Install MS-DOS 5.0, it overwrites MWCs masterboot with it's own.
>>--
>>Udo Munk                voice:      +49 2131 275348
>>Oberstr. 21             mail :      udo@umunk.GUN.de
>>4040 Neuss 1                        ...!{mcshh,smurf,unido}!easix!umunk!udo
>>Germany                 CompuServe: 100021,2515
> 
> Thanks you all for the responses and email!
> Keith
> 
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> | Keith Thigpen          thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov      (205)461-4936   |
> | New Technology, Inc.   Marshall Space Flight Center     Huntsville, AL   |
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Uh, I don't know if anybody suggested this one, but just in case...
There is an "undocumented" feature of the DOS fdisk command.  If you enter
FDISK /MBR  (or is it just /M?) it will write a new master boot record to
the disk, effectively canning whatever was there before.  No need to
re-install DOS.

MARK
morley@camins.camosun.bc.ca
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: What are the advantages of Coherent.
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:52:32 GMT
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

g89r4255@hippo.ru.ac.za (Lt Sajid Rahim) writes:
: 
: I have a copy of coherent sitting on my desk. I am not sure
: of exaclty what is available from it. I am more interested
: in the YACC and LEX facilities and the C compiler. As 
: far as I remeber that all these facilities are available.

Yes, YACC, LEX and C compiler are included.

: The version I have is V3.1.0. Is it possible to run any
: UNIX software on it. If not is there software available
: for it. How about uucp?

You can't run any UNIX software on it, because the size of a proccess
is limited to 64KB code + 64KB data. There is a lot of software
ported to Coherent 3.x available from COHware disks, MWCBBS, ECSBBS,
raven.alska.edu and my system. It comes with a working uucp and it's
possible to read the netnews under 3.x, I've done it halfe a year
before upgrading to 4.0 now.
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From: roger@neptons.UUCP (Roger Barth)
Subject: Re: core dump using mktemp()
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:59:15 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cameron Park, CA

dfilip@colorne.UUCP writes:
> Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong ? The following code
> segment core dumps (segmentation violation) on me :
> 
> #include <stdio.h>
> 
> char msgtemp[33];
> 
> extern char *mktemp();
> 
> main()
> {
> 	printf("before call to mktemp\n");
> 
> 	strcpy(msgtemp,mktemp("/tmp/sortXXXXXX"));
mktemp does not work in 4.0.  I ran into the  problem when porting
over COMB to version 4.0.  the best I can suggest is to user the
process ID appended to something for a temp file.  I also keep a
temp counter which I append to the process id.  

A file name can be make like:

sfprint(buffer,"/tmp/tmp%d%d",getpid(),count++);

--

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Roger Barth - Cameron Park, California USA            Coherent 4.0.1
roger%neptons@antares.intel.com                 916-677-9771 (voice)
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: smail blues
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 17:20:22 GMT

kwfriber@mtu.edu (Kenberg Frieth) writes:
: In article <1992Sep14.035414.25344@generic.uucp> klovatt@generic.uucp (Keith Lovatt) writes:
: >kwfriber@mtu.edu (Kenberg Frieth) writes:
: >
: >>mtu.edu  mtu.edu!%s  ???
: >
: >>where I forget now what the third field is and the fields are separated
: >>by spaces.
: >
: >I had a problem like this some time ago. The problem is the fields should be
: >tab-delimited (at least between 2nd and third fields). As soon as I put the
: >tabs in, I had no further problems.
: >
: >Keith.
: 
: Actually, I have tabs in there, I just miss-typed.  Are there any other
: suggestions?

Also the lines in /usr/lib/mail/paths must be sorted alphabetically.
Do you really have ??? in the third field? There should be a number.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: sidney@picard.med.ge.com (Bill Sidney MPE 4-6324)
Subject: Re: EDITORS...
Organization: GE Medical Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:39:49 GMT

I'm interested, I'm running both 3.2 and 4.0 and could really use a copy.

Thanks -=Sid=-


Udo Munk (umunk@naxos.sni.de) wrote:
: 
: I can offer DTE (a Wordstar clone) ported to 3.2. I haven't compiled
: it under 4.0 yet.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: riipinen@dxcern.cern.ch (Petri Juhani Riipinen)
Subject: What is the IP-number for MWC ?
Organization: CERN European Laboratory for Particle Physics
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:01:27 GMT

Sorry for this lame question, but the host selection in this computer is not
my fault.

Anyway, I will propably be ordering Coherent 4.0 RSN, and would like to do
it via E-Mail. And I got (from one kind soul, thank you) the address
sales@mwc.com... But, guess what, mwc.com is not defined in the host file,
so could somebody please E-Mail me the numeric IP-address... Please...

Thank you...

(sorry, but I didn't know where else to post this message...)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: d10590@tanus.oz.au (Robert Chalmers)
Subject: tin
Organization: Pro-Net Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 12:20:40 GMT

Can someone give me some advice please on the file format of the files that
are used by tin. There does not seem to be any indication in the docs of how
to actually get the files into a working state. Also, assuming I have a site
that will provide a news feed service, how do I actually get the 'incoming
news fed in to tin'... any help much appreciated...
Bob
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|APCUG nanguo!root   (AUS)               UUCP mwcbbs!nanguo!earth  (USA)|
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From: ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey)
Subject: UART 16550 problems
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 13 Sep 92 00:40:19 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ben Bailey's Home..Tampa Fl.

Hearing of the improvement of throughput for the 16550 UART, I 
purchased a new serial card with one on it.  It's on com2.  However,
when I'm booting COH 4.0, it says there isn't a UART (during the boot
phase) on com2!  

I thought at first the chip might be bad, so I booted DOS, used a 
terminal emulator, and it worked fine with port 2.  

I swapped the chip out with an 82450 UART, and that works fine on port
com2 under Coherent.

Is the problem with the installation?  I purchased the new serial card
after updating to Coh 4.0.  The manual says that the 16550 is auto
detected; was that meant to mean only during the initial installation?

The chip itself is labeled (on the top): 
	89212
	PC16550CN
	NS16550AFN

The chip is labeled (on the bottom):
	I-16C550(A)
	7285

Anyone have any suggestions?

 
Thanks!

Ben
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813-677-5021                  thing the main thing.  Mainly.
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: core dump using mktemp()
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:09:39 GMT
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

hcp@csx.cciw.ca (H.C. Pulley) writes:
: In article <116@colorne.UUCP> dfilip@colorne.UUCP writes:
: >Can someone please tell me what I am doing wrong ? The following code
: >segment core dumps (segmentation violation) on me :
: 
: First of all, your code works without modification under Coherent 3.2.1a, IRIX,
: EP/IX, and Ultrix.  I'm not sure that it should, though.  Your keywords above
: suggest that you are running Coherent 4.0, which I can't test yet.
[...]
: Since your code works under Coherent 3.2.1a and the other operating systems I
: have listed above I suspect that either a compiler-problem or a library 
: problem (change to mktemp()) is present in Coherent 4.0.  It is bad style, and
: it may well be against the rules (problem with C: rules are tough to find) but
: it seems to be an 'ad hoc standard'.  This means there is probably code like 
: this buried in some programs that people are trying to port.

The C compiler of 4.0 puts string literals into the write protected
code segment of a process by default. This can be changed with the
option -VPSTR given to cc. Whith that options string literals goes
into the writable data segment of a process. However, it's a bad style
and should be avoided when writing new programs. This option should
only be used to port existent programs. (IMHO).
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From: dfilip@colorne.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Coherent 4.0 file protections
Keywords: coherent 4.0 protections chmod
Date: 5 Sep 92 02:29:13 GMT
Distribution: world
Summary: Strange file protections in 4.0

As I have been digging deeper into Coherent 4.0, I have noticed a few
'strange' file protections :

/usr/spool/uucp/.Log...

	When cron kicks off uumvlog, new empty log files in uucico, uucp,
	uux, and uuxqt are created with protection 666 instead of 644;
	uucheck then complains about this, and uucheck -f fixes it;
	when uumvlog is run from root, files with protection 644 are
	created, but the owner and group is root; again, uucheck
	complains about this, and uucheck -f fixes it

/usr/spool/cron...

	The directory /usr/spool/cron/crontabs has the permission
	755 instead of 700, as listed on page 599 of the Lexicon

/usr/lib/cron...

	The file /usr/lib/cron/cron.allow has the permission 644 instead
	of 600 as listed on page 599 of the Lexicon

Has anyone else noticed any of this strangeness ???

Regards,

Dave.

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From: root@tbucks.com (Superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: tin help
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:39:47 GMT
Organization: tbucks.com (private bitty-box)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

More help is requested for WNEWS and tin. A short while ago, I could not
use unbatch to move files from /usr/spool/news/in.coming to
/usr/spool/news/*. I tried setting /usr/bin/unbatch to -rwxrwxrwx and was
then able to run this program as root. The docs for WNEWS insist this
should be -r-sr-s---. Anyway, /usr/lib/news/log showed files received from
/in.coming.

Now tin doesn't work right. Again, it worked ystdy. When I start tin, it
shows the groups with a 1 next to each name, except for the first group
comp.os.coherent which has a blank. Pressing to mark the group as unread
chnges this blank to a 5, and there are indeed 5 articles in this group.

Now, since I marked the group as unread then pressing <CR> should bring up
the first article, right? Instead, I am told 'No Articles' and the 5 turns
back to a blank.

Am I right in thinking that tin consults /usr/lib/news/active to determine
the groups and article numbers?

Why is there another active file in /.tin? This one does not have numbers
and if it is deleted, tin promptly rebuilds it.

How can I get tin to start up and show me the articles?
From: lmy@ncn.uucp (Lars Myraas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Problem in Installing 4.01
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:27:03 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Dietmar_Hendricks@kr.maus.de (Dietmar Hendricks) writes:
: I've got a problem in installing Coherent 4.01 on my machine.
: 
: First of all it gave me the message:
: "prepare_gift(): WARNING: not enough room for all arguments
: only 496 bytes submitted"
: 

I have installed Coh 4.0.1 on a 80486sx 20Mhz, with 8Kb internal cache, and i
am getting the same "prepare _gift..." message as You are. But my system boots
up just fine, and everything seems to work perfectly. The message is only    
showed when i use cache enabled (8Kb)....

Pc type is:	SNI PCD-4Gsx/20 with 8mb ram
Hd:		AT/IDE 120Mb (WD Caviar 120)
Bios:		Award v3.10/r2.10	


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|                 Oslo - Norway                   |
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: david@gdstech.grumman.com (David Nettles)
Subject: Re: Using dos* commands in v4.0.1
Keywords: DOS
Reply-To: david@gdstech.UUCP (David Nettles)
Organization: Grumman Data Systems-Woodbury
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 12:56:45 GMT

In article <4SEP199210320074@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> batchelor@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dave Batchelor, NSSDC, 301-286-2988) writes:
>>batchelor@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dave Batchelor, NSSDC, 301-286-2988) writes:
>
>>> [...problem with "dos" commands and /dev/atoa (aka C:)...]
>>> manual directs.  Before I phoned MWC, I checked whether the Superuser could
>>> access C: and voila!  So with this info, I called MWC, and was told the fix:
>>> login as root, chmod 666 /at0a
>
>>I hope this is on a machine that you're the only one using - setting /dev/at0a
>>to 0666 would allow any user to seriously scribble on your hard drive.
>
>>                                                - k
>>--
>>Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
>
>That's right, I'm the sole user, and the system isn't open to outside logins.
>I was just making the minor complaint that the spanking new dos* commands were
>well-documented for COHERENT 4.0.1 EXCEPT that why they wouldn't IMMEDIATELY
>work on drive C: was not explained.  At first I wondered if I had a hard drive
>compatibility problem.  The Lexicon tells one to edit /etc/default/msdos but
>that's not ALL you have to do for a normal user to access the C: drive.  You
>also must log in as root and give the user permission to use the C: drive.  MWC
>told me to:
>cd /dev 
>chmod 666 at0a
>which is a security problem on multiuser systems.  Anyone have a better
>solution?  I'm a novix ;-)
>
>Dave
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Dave Batchelor  Space Science Data Operations Office  Mail Code 632
>NASA Goddard Space Flight Center  Greenbelt  MD  20771  USA
>batchelor@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov

This is bothering me quite a bit too...  I do not have Coherent, but
do run a small version of UNIX on my PC.  How does this look:

	mkdir /dev/at0a/users
	mkdir /dev/at0a/users/david
	chmod 755 /dev/at0a
	chmod 755 /dev/at0a/users
	chmod 700 /dev/at0a/users/david
	chown david /dev/at0a/users/david

Is this possible under Coherent?

****************************************************************************
   David E. Nettles
   Internet: david@gdstech.grumman.com
   Telephone: (516) 346-2799
   Grumman Data Systems
   MS D12/237
****************************************************************************

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****************************************************************************
   David E. Nettles
   Internet: david@gdstech.grumman.com
   Grumman Data Systems
From: CHAMBLES@usmcp6.bitnet (JOHN CHAMBLESS)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: EDITORS...
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:39:25 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>


 -> an editor which is comfortable for writing text! Probably
 -> with a menu-
 -> system. I'm working with MicroEmacs but I think there must
 -> be a better
 -> one to write letters and so on... Small, quick and easy to
 -> handle.
 ->
Most people find vi easier to work with. There is a vi
clone included with 3.2; I assume it's part of the 4.x
hough, that Coherent needs a
small fast editor like Qedit or PED. (personally, I want a
Wordstar clone!)


*<chambles@usmcp6.bitnet>
*Billy Chambless; University of Southern Mississippi
* mwcbbs!madhax!billy
From: kwfriber@mtu.edu (Kenberg Frieth)
Subject: smail blues
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:22:39 GMT

I finally got a UUCP account here on campus, and now I am trying to make
mail work.  I can receive mail from compus just fine, but whenever I try
to send mail out, root gets a message from MAILER-DAEMON (smail 2.?) that
the address could not be resolved.  I have tried sending to friberg@mtu.edu,
and to mtu.edu!friberg and neither one works.  My paths file has a line

mtu.edu  mtu.edu!%s  ???

where I forget now what the third field is and the fields are separated
by spaces.

HELP!!!!!

Also, I am going to be doing some mail forwarding between the internet and
amateur radio, and I need to be able to censor the mail going out to keep
from getting the attention of the FCC.  Does the coherent mail system have
a facility for this, or am I going to have to kluge something?

Thanks for the help..
Ken Friberg n8pbe
mtu.edu!kwfbox!kwfriber
From: clc30@ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Caho)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: problems with floppy as a filesystem
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:33:12 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

as I only read from the floppies everything is fine....but, as soon as
I write anything to the floppy the filesystem is shot.  A 'format -v ...'
will fail everytime with data not found errors.  I didn't have any 
problem with 3.2 and still don't when running DOS.  After getting no where
with MWC I started taking the system apart piece by piece.
 
The piece that fixed the problem was the extended memory card.  As soon as 
I took it out both floppy drives could write without corrupting anything.
 
The catch is that instead of 4 Meg of memory ,,,, now I only have two. 
MWC has asked me to send the extended memory card so that they can try to
duplicate the situation ... so when I get the time to stop by the Pack'n Mail
I will probably do so.
 
Let me know if your problem is related!!!!  I have been working with ED at
MWC.
 


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