From: doug@eng.umd.edu (Douglas N. Cohen)
Subject: Re: MODERATOR PLEASE READ!!
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 16:10:27 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Summary: i tried...
Followup-To:      doug:  <doug@eng.umd.edu> : <doug@lpf.umd.edu>
Keywords: you guys should have listened....

In article <AJR.92Apr16152517@pug.hri.com> ajr@hri.com writes:

>In article <18789@ravel.udel.edu> abby@ravel.udel.edu (Louis Abbruzzesi) writes:
>> In article <AJR.92Apr15181649@pug.hri.com> ajr@hri.com writes:
>> =>
>> =>Accounts are a privilege, not a right.
>> 
>> What? I wonder what my tuition goes toward. I feel really priveleged that
>> my university uses my money, and grants me Net access.
>
>My tuition also went towards things like fraternities (for a while),
>student government, Spring Carnival, on-campus concerts, and the Movie
>Division.  I took advantage of 2 of those, and I certainly *never*
>expected to have any control over them unless I was active in them.
>
>Unless a student can show sie has any clue what a network is, much
>less how to manage one, sie should be kept far away from all
>decisions.
>
>>  Without students
>> and Universities this net would be a little less than it is right now.
>
>So.  What's your point?
>
>> In the real world, companies can make you pee in a jar before they hire you,
>> that doesn't mean its right.
>
>Your opinion.  I think EVERYONE should be tested.  Whether there
>should be or not, there is currently no law to protect your 'right' to
>privacy.
>
>> In the real world, your employer foots the
>> bill for all aspects of Net access but here at my University I do--
>
>You think your tuition comes even close to what universities get in
>grants and, for state universities, government aid?  If each dollar
>you contribute gave you one vote, DEC would have total control over
>ULowell and 50% at MIT (IBM the other 50%).
>
>> Maybe you have an opinion on the 'little e' case-- who needs a jury with
>> you around- you obviously have a grip on net justice don't you.
>
>I've been a system/network/news/mail administrator for 5 years.  I
>also wrote the ACS software (the same software Maxime was using and is
>still being used for alt.sex.bondage and alt.personals.bondage) and
>ran it for alt.personals at two sites.  Yes, I think that does qualify
>me as an 'expert' on netiquette.  Have you even heard of Emily
>Postnews?
>
>--
>Andy Rosen (ajr@hri.com)  |  "The most valuable commodity I know of,
>Horizon Research, Inc.    |   is information."   -Gordon Gekko, "Wall Street"
>1432 Main St.             |  "I got this guitar and I learned how to
>Waltham, MA 02154         |   make it talk."   -"Thunder Road"


	i tried to tell you guys nicely and subtly, but noooooo!  you had
to go and mess with the wrong guy.....   i wish you guys would pay
attention when i tell you something....  you see, andy also sent me
a copy of the acs software, so i knew who he was, and one day, if i
ever get the rest of my hardware, i * might * take a shot at running the
acs, myself.....  (all it costs is time and money!)
	another opinion, worth what you paid for it!
	as always, i am/at:

	     doug:  <doug@eng.umd.edu> : <doug@lpf.umd.edu>

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