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From: salisbur@cs.washington.edu (Mike Salisbury)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: JV-80
Date: 7 Apr 92 05:35:15 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

I've been looking to buy a new keyboard in the under $2000 range for a
while now.  I'd like to get the best sounding synth possible without
sacrificing some obvious feature (say, velocity sensing.)

From what I've been able to personally hear, I have left the Roland
JV-80 on my list of possibilities, yet all I hear in this group is
how bad it sounds, and how nobody could imagine anybody owning one.

My interests are purely in sequencing my own music on my computer.
I currently have only a sound module and interface (old ones at that)
and basically I've decided to forget about the possibility of entering
music with a mouse (you laugh.  I actually did consider it, though.)
I'd also like some nicer sounds than my old module can produce.

Is there really anything inherently bad about the JV-80?  Is there a
better, cheaper synth I should look into?  I'm also impressed with the
expandability features of the JV-80.  Are these not valuable as well?

And finally, if I decide to forget about the sounds and just get
a keyboard for data entry, what should I look for?  Is there a cheap
old synth with a nice keyboard?  Should I consider a non-synthesizer
keyboard?


-- Mike Salisbury
From: d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Mac Sample editor for Roland S-750/770 ?
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:50:04 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Originator: d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se


Is there a Macintosh sample editor for the Roland S-750/770
samplers ? Since the Galaxy series is available for the mac,
I hope they have one for these...

-- 
"You should meet yourself someday. I'm sure you would hate it."
- Me: h+@nada.kth.se; Jon W{tte (The Diplomat - NOT!)
From: mjp@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Mike Prudence)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 10:29:56 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: How Engineers make music (was Usenet Tape depression sets in)
Organization: Hewlett Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers,rec.music.bluenote

>>>>> "Steve" == sherman@induce.enet.dec.com (My name is...) writes:

Steve> I would wager that MOST of the information that any of the
Steve> artists listed can generate can somehow, some way be converted into
Steve> MIDI events such that a synth can be convincingly programmed to have
Steve> indistinguishable feel when compared to a "real" musician.

I agree with this.  Many a time, I have MIDI illiterate folks
listening to my modest setup doing it's stuff, and they say to me
"Hey, but the computer's playing that, so it's cheating."  After some
spluttering, I realise that they are, in a sense, right, but then try
and explain to them that the computer is only performing some time
shifting and hand borrowing for me.

Having classical training, and some intuitive feel, my tendency when
recording something into the sequencer is to keep on playing it until
I get it right - in effect, using the sequencer as a large multi-track
tape machine.  Of course, if I play one bum note in a 10 minute solo,
then I'll just slip in and adjust it with the twitch of a mouse, but
the principle remains the same.  

If MIDI didn't exist, I would be using a four track to make my music.
In the end, the results would be the same (albeit perhaps a little
noisier, given that I can record my MIDI'ed compositions in one shot
onto cassette tape).

Step time entry makes me shudder, but then I'm lucky - I can play.  If
I couldn't, and I had the same urge to make music, I'd probably be
step timing away with the best of them.

Another nugget from my experience: putting expressiveness into your
music is all about steering clear of that 'quantise' button, and
making sure you're using your synth controllers to the utmost -
aftertouch, velocity, wheels and pedals.

The bottom line is that sequenced music can be expressive too.

Yet another 2p.

Cheers,

Mike

mjp@hplb.hpl.hp.com   "If you can't make a mistake, you can't make anything"
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Macs, MIDI, etc
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:13:00 GMT


Tank a' you Mike.  In the heated wind of the moment, I forgot to mention
what I wanted to do with all that bandwidth.  Lest anybody think that I
really want to saturate 16 MIDI cables with tonso of note on/off information,
please observe Metlay's posting.  For some reason, I have a tendency of 
sending a lot of continuous controller information.  You would be amazed
how quickly you can bog a single MIDI cable down with just a joystick,
a volume pedal controller, and a mod wheel.  Its clear from past discussions
on time stamp rates of various MIDOI sequencers, that most people here don't
send a lot of continuous controller information over MIDI.  The reason
why Keller's 64-Track PC is still the best available sequencing package
(now that I have experienced the Mac system, I can definately say that 64-track
PC is definately the best, bar none) for doing final production work is
that it WILL allow you to load 8 MIDI cables to full resolution while
maintaining an accurate time step resolution of 720 ppq.  I would have to
guess that 64-Track PC running on a Yamaha C1 would have to constitute
the best 'performance (as in live performance' MIDI package one could get
today (without lugging around a full AT class machine).  As I have said,
I now feel forced to keep my 386 machine in the studio loaded with Keller's
program.  What I am planning to do is to buy another MTP.  That 3rd MTP
will get inputs from the 8 64-track PC outputs.  Someday, the outs on that
MTP will be used for controlling the Mackie automation, all the effects
in my racks, and other single ended tasks.  Ads far as I can see, this is
the only real immediate solution to the problem.

One other thing I forgot to mention yesterday was the fact that any of the
new Windows programs which support the MTP are, by default, going to
suffer the same performance problems as Mac/MTP systems do.  Clearly, it
must of been kind of wild to have been in Greg Hendershott's position at
Twelve Tone when he realized how the MTP port was going to have to work.
Now I can understand what all the waiting was for, as Greg said, the software
interface wasn't the problem, it was waiting for a piece of hardware to
equally cripple a PC down to Mac serial port standards that took the time.

John 3
From: shepard@athena.cs.uga.edu (William Erik Shepard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Samples in general...
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:59:48 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <gdu_3rO00VICMixEZA@andrew.cmu.edu> mb1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Burks) writes:
>
>It is my understanding that samples are samples if they are in MIDI
>sample dump format...  Is this really the case?
>
>I ask because alot of people are asking about FTP sites for samples for
>specific samplers, and this confuses me.
>
>If samples are samples, then I think it would be of great use for all
>sample owners if people who know of FTP sites with samples would post
>them.

The reason that people ask for sampler-specific FTP sites is because, while
sample dump will send (raw) samples, it will NOT send things like envelope
values, filter settings, etc.  This is specific to each sampler.  What the
sample dump will send is things like the sample itself, loop points,
crossfades, etc.  This is not to say that the Sample Dump Standard isn't 
useful, though.

W. Erik Shepard
shepard@athena.cs.uga.edu
From: "les birmingham" <les.birmingham@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: midi under windows 3.
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:20:57 EST
Reply-To: "les birmingham" <les.birmingham@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

DA>I think that we are in for some exciting times for computer music and
DA>sound now that this new baseline has been established.  Look for a
DA>plethoria of sound-capable Windows programs, and with it, hopefully
DA>a new surge of cheap sound cards that have quality sound.  How about
DA>a Proteus/1 and /2 on a card, along with a 16-bit D/A port!!  Yeah!
DA>That's the ticket!  Sorry guys, but the SoundBlaster sounds like an
DA>AM radio station from 200 miles away.  YUCK!

DA>--
DA>David Yon
DA>yon%smltlk.cbm.dec.com@decwrl.dec.com <--- use this address

I don't know if you are aware of this but it has been done.  The Turtle
Beach Multisound card is a Proteus on a card with 16 bit D/A and A/D and
a 56001 DSP.  For a list price of $995 U.S. (I've heard $795 U.S. in some
stores).  We ARE in an exciting time for computer music.  I believe that
Win 3.1 is going to lead a HUGE shift from the Mac to the IBM for Music.
It's about time, too!  Now how many days will it be for new 3.1 versions
of cmusic and other such things to show up?

ciao

Birmingham
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From: simon@ivem.ucsd.edu (Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: WANTED: Alesis 1622 mixer...
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:55:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.rvq3mINN97a
Distribution: world
Organization: UCSD Microscopy and Imaging Resource
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Originator: simon@ivem


In article <1992Apr8.043113.7174@ucselx.sdsu.edu>, maxc0013@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Todd Greene) writes:
|> 
|> Looking for a used Alesis 1622 mixer or similar for
|> home studio...
|> 
|> BTW, I'm a student looking for _student_ prices...thanks.
|> 

What's a "student" price?  I'm a student and no one has ever sold
me anything for that price :)

-Simon
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:16:08 PDT
From:         more dark than shark <DUNN@INTELLICORP.COM>
Subject:      Galaxy modules for D4, Mirage, DSP128?
Comments: To: synth-l%auvm.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu

Hi folks-
	has anyone hacked up Galaxy modules for these thangs...
casey



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From: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Macintosh Powerbook & MIDI
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:55:02 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Originator: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se

.ece.cmu.edu> sjohn@england.ece.cmu.edu (John E. Sasinowski) writes:

   I am trying to use a Powerbook 170 as a sequencer for my VFX-SD, but I'm
   having problems.  I'm posting this in the hopes that someone will let me
   know if I'm doing something obviously (or non-obviously) wrong.

The PowerBook has KNOWN PROBLEMS, repeatable even by Apple People
with high speeds on the serial ports. If you use a sequencer that
understands about the MIDI manager, though, it should work.

-- 
h+@nada.kth.se; Jon W{tte, the Diplomat - NOT!
From: "wayne kelso" <wayne.kelso@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: macs, midi, etc
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:43:27 EST
Reply-To: "wayne kelso" <wayne.kelso@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

On 04-13-92, DANIEL BARRETT wrote to ALL:

 DB> In article <9204101315.AA19913#EDDIE.MIT.EDU> 
 DB> JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes: >For some reason, I have a 
 DB> tendency of sending a lot of continuous controller >information.  
 DB> You would be amazed how quickly you can bog a single MIDI >cable 
 DB> down... >I now feel forced to keep my 386 machine in the studio 
 DB> loaded with Keller's >program. What I am planning to do is to buy 
 DB> another MTP.  That 3rd MTP.

I didn't read your original post, I just got this much from Daniel 
Barrett's reply to you. Most Mac programs have a setting to define the 
resolution of that continuous controller information. For instance, in 
Vision, you normally set it to around 1% for most things. I never have to 
rise much above 6& for smooth pitch bends.
 I have a friend who has a Mac Plus running Rerformer, and he had a tune 
that had timing problems. He gave me a Midi file for me to try on my IICX 
using Vision. My machine could play it, but when I scrutinized the tracks, 
I found all sorts of aftertouch info that didn't need to be there, and 
also modulation and pitch bend info who's resolution was much to refined. 
Most of these software packages allow you to thin out the information to a 
more manageable amount without affecting the performance of the track.
Don't give up on the Mac just yet. I know many people who love this 
machine for music.

Wayne.Kelso@canrem.com
 
  


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:09:40 EDT
From:         "Sean F. Jepson" <SJEPSON@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      AU Audio Eng. Prog.

Does anyone have any opinions about American University's Audio Engineering
Program.  Is it worth the money? ($1,500 per course) Were the professors
knowledgeable, helpful, interested in their students?  I am thinking about
attending AU next spring if I can pull some money together somehow. (Anyone
know of any scholarships?) Want to donate to my education fund?

Thanks
Sean


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From: pauls@trsvax.tandy.com
Date: 06 Apr 92 10:27 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: My sample-rate conversion papers
Message-ID: <27300029@trsvax>
Nf-ID: #N:trsvax:27300029:000:112
Nf-From: trsvax.tandy.com!pauls    Apr  6 10:27:00 1992


To all of you who requested my sample-rate conversion papers:

send me your US POSTAL MAIL ADDRESS!!

thanks!!


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From: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: AudioMedia, SampleCell, Cubase Audio ?
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:57:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: hemul.D88-JWA.92Apr9225707
Distribution: rec
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Originator: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se


So, I still haven't bought that S-750. Instead, I looked at
Mac Hardware boards, and was recommended the following:

SampleCell (16 voices sample player)
AudioMedia (2 channels in/out)
CuBase Audio (the sequencer we all know and love, with support for
              the audiomedia card)

So, could I survive on this ? I already have a 76-key, velocity
and aftertouch capable keyboard that I get along with.

Most important: if you have worked with any or all of these
packages, what did you think ?

The cost would be slightly, but not very, lower than the cost of
a S-750 here.

How good is the SoundDesigner "simple" version that comes with
this ? How good are the filters etc. on the SampleCell as compared
to a S-750 ?

Since I don't have any multi-track equipment, the to-disk capability
of the AudioMedia/Audio bundle gives me two lyrucs tracks, right ?

Can you run AudioMedia cards in tandem, or do you have to get the
expensive SoundWhatever card for that ?

So many questions... (Yes, I asked my dealer. He didn't know exactly)

-- 
h+@nada.kth.se; Jon W{tte, the Diplomat - NOT!
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: tom@dmr.com (Tom Flaherty)
Subject: Dr. T's Amiga 4-Op Deluxe Editor/Librarian For Sale
Organization: DMR Wellesly, MA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:02:30 GMT

	Totally unopened Dr. T Editor that supports the
	following Yamaha synths:

		TX-81Z
		FB-01
		DX-100
		DX-27
		DX-21

	Price: $45 or best offer (shipping not included)


	Please respond via email or call me at:

		(617)431-8603 between 10:00 am and 6:00 pm (EST)


		Tom Flaherty
From: ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Seeking weird analog synth
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:48:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: shamash.40629
Reply-To: ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)
Organization: Control Data Corp., Arden Hills, MN

In article <1992Apr8.100501.1425@hemlock.cray.com>, dpm@cray.com (Donald
P. Maghrak) writes:
|>In article <41050099@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com
(Peter Brooks) writes:
|>>[ ... ]
|>>
|>Didn't Pete Towensend (sp?) of the Who use a VCS 3 on the Who's Next album?
|>He was also into those old analog sequencers.  I think he used an analog 
|>sequencer with a VCS 3 on Won't Get Fooled Again and Baba O'Reilly, and 
|>the VCS 3 on Bargain.  
|>-feel free to correct info and spelling.

I always thought that he used an ARP 2500 or 2600 for those.
But all I can remember (hopefully somewhat accurately) is some
picture of him with a 2500 (and it may have been in an ARP 
newsletter).    

Alex.

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From: aa596@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Haller)
Subject: Re: Tascam 688 Midistudio -- Opinions wanted
Reply-To: aa596@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Haller)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 22:18:27 GMT


In a previous article, scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) says:

>In rec.music.synth, Mike.Rivers@f440.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Rivers) writes:
> >Why did Tascam use XLR inputs instead of 1/4" jacks. Most
> >- all? - synth gear uses 1/4" jacks, so you will need adaptors or a 
> >high end patch bay.
>
>Something in this thread isn't making sense to me but I'll throw in my
>two cents worth.  The Tascam 688 has 10 main input channels.  Each input
>channel has both XLR and 1/4" phone jacks.  I'm not sure how anyone got
>the idea that the 688 only has XLR jacks.
>
I think I started that, unintentionally. I was trying to make the point that
I would have prefered that 1/4" jacks were use for both the line and the mic
inputs, with a few (4?) XLRs available like on the 644. With the name
"MIDIstudio" I would have thought that MIDI audio connectors (1/4") would
prevail over XLR. (I can here the flames now from the nonMIDI and/or 
mic users now!)

PCH
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From: nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick Rothwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: What, me whine?
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:33:12 GMT
Organization: Friends of the Salter Duck
In-reply-to: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL's message of 15 Apr 92 17:28:00 GMT

In article <9204151729.AA29763@EDDIE.MIT.EDU> JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL writes:

   Pardon my ignorance but, Nick, exactly what is a Salter Duck?

It's a device for converting wave movement into energy. There's a research
project here which has shown some very promising results which the
Atomic Energy Commission are busy fudging, forging, and covering up.

Whoops, I guess I've just violated the Official Secrets Act.

Nick.
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From: rwk@crl.dec.com (Bob Kerns)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: LP Stereo
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:23:56 GMT
	<1992Apr7.040440.17691@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>
	<D88-JWA.92Apr8110325@hemul.nada.kth.se>
Organization: Cambridge Research Lab, Digital Equipment Corp.

In article <D88-JWA.92Apr8110325@hemul.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte) writes:

   From: d88-jwa@hemul.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
   Date: 8 Apr 92 10:03:25 GMT
   .cs.uiuc.edu> cs318a62@ibmb2.cs.uiuc.edu (Philip M Scopes) writes:

      >I don't know if this question is totally appropriate but, 

      >Where do you get two tracks on an LP?  Do they really do stereo?

      I believe that the groove on a stereo record has a "left" and "right" half.
      The needle of a stereo record player separates these two signals and you get
      stereo.

   Nah, you only have one needle, right ? How could it distinguish
   the left and right edge ?

It's actually quite easy, and you have almost the right idea
yourself, below...

   My vote (from disassembling my pickup, and also from knowing the
   needle may skip on hard drum beats) is for using both right-left
   and up-down orientations.

The problem with this is that it's asymetric.  You really want
both channels to be handled in the same way.  So take your
approach, and simpley rotate it 45 degrees!  Instead of up-down,
and left-right, the needle senses up-left/down-right and up-right/down-left.
That is, the two independent direction vectors are perpendicular to
the groove walls, instead of perpendicular to the groove bottom
and parallel to it..

      R      L
       \    /
        \  /
         \/
         /\
        /  \
----   /    \  ------
    \ L      R/
     \       /
      \     /
       \   /
        \ /
         V
From: ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Yamaha DD-11 drum Pad/machine ; where
Keywords: dd-11
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:44:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: shamash.40605
Reply-To: ats@phoenix.udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718)
Organization: Control Data Corp., Arden Hills, MN

In article <ku1spqINN3hv@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, anis@kawai.Eng.Sun.COM ((
)) writes:
|>Hi all,
|>
|>
|>Does any of you know where to find a Yamaha DD-11 machine and for how much.
|>This is supposed to be the succesor of the famous DD-5 machine with Pads
|>and newer sounds with midi. 
|>
|>Doesn't it make a nice/cheap ?  drum machine controller...
|>
|>anis
          
I saw this at a local store about 9 months ago. Cost was around
$190 (maybe could get it a little cheaper) so I passed it up.

Alex.

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From: rwk@crl.dec.com (Bob Kerns)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Problems!!!!!
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:26:52 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Research Lab, Digital Equipment Corp.

In article <11597.9204051137@orsun.dcs.leeds.ac.uk> ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK (The Brown Bottle) writes:

   From: ross-c@DCS.LEEDS.AC.UK (The Brown Bottle)
   Date: 5 Apr 92 11:37:42 GMT
   >From: Dan Harkless
   >Subject: Re: Problems!!!!!
   >
   >In article <1992Apr1.193934.4285@jsp.umontreal.ca> u1471@jsp.umontreal.ca
   >(Leclerc Marco) writes:
   >>
   >>J'ai une question:
   >>	Lorsque j'essaie d'utiliser IRC sur un Apollo, je recois le
   >>message suivant:
   >>	"No termcap found for Apollo"
   >>ou quelque chose du genre.
   >>
   >>Qu'est-ce que ca veut dire?????
   >
   >	Je ne sais pas; mais, peut-etre si vous posez le question en anglais,
   >il y sera plus de personnes qui peuvent repondre.
   >

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   saigo no bun wa, "Moshi, eigo de shitsumon sureba, dare ka ga kotaeru
   kamoshirenai" da to iu imi da to omou.

   Ross-c

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From: pauls@trsvax.tandy.com
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:24 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: MIDI BBS reccom.
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