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From: jamesmc@ut-emx.uucp (James McCartney)
Newsgroups: rec.music.compose
Subject: Phillip Glass anecdote
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:40:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas


   Here's a funny though discouraging anecdote from a book I just started
reading _American Composers: Dialogues  on Contemporary Music_ by 
Edward Strickland. It is a series of interviews with: Kieth Jarrett,
Steve Reich, La Monte Young, Anthony Davis, Meredith Monk, Terry Riley,
John Zorn, Phillip Glass, George Crumb, John Adams, Ingram Marshall.




"   Glass came to broader notice with the 1976 Metropolitan Opera
production of his futuristic collboration with director Robert Wilson,
_Einstein on the Beach_. It exposed the conservative operatic audience to the 
Minimalist style, while attracting a younger crows to the Met's sacred
portals for the first time. The work proved a popular and critical success,
and the authors were invited to stage a third performance. The economics
of production, however, were such that, even if it sold out as the first
two performances had, a third one would have raised "the Einstein debt",
soon a Soho cause celebre, from $90,000 to six figures. In his book
_Music by Phillip Glass_ (New York: Harper and Row, 1987), the composer
relates that, ensconsed in his cab more firmly than ever after the Einstein
acclaim, he was advised by a passenger who had noticed his medallion that
he had the same name as a famous composer."


  all erorrs/tyops are mine.
  
  --- james mccartney


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From: fullerto@mostaccioli.cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy dwight fullerton)
Subject: looking for good e-music grad program
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 04:09:05 GMT



	Dear World;

	I am going to acquire my Bachelor's Degree in Music (yes, B.M.) 
imminently. I am interested in doing graduate work in electronic music. 
Before I just poke through the guides to colleges, I thought I'd probe 
the Internet group conscience for firsthand experience. 

	If you go to a university that has a fantastic electronic music 
department, please write me and let me know, and maybe tell me if 
anything about it is unique or special; I'd love to look into it. 
Conversely, if there is anyplace that looks good in the advertisements 
but sucks in real life, I would appreciate any warning.

	I used to live in Los Angeles briefly; I found it to be the most 
enriching musical environment of anyplace I had ever been. Therefore, my 
first choices right now would be USC or UCLA, knowing nothing about 
their electronic music departments. If anyone who goes there could tell 
me anything about what might exist in the vicinity of LA, again, I would 
be grateful.

	Tim
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From: bjd7p@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Bert J. Dempsey)
Subject: composition software
Keywords: music, desktop publishing
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:02:01 GMT


	I am looking for software running on MS-Windows in order 
 	to do desktop publishing that includes music.
	
	Specifically, I need to be able to put notes on a staff 
	and then to pull that graphic into an environment where 
	text can be placed beneath it. (I do _not_ need the 
	capability to play out the notes.)

	I have pointers to "The Copyist" and "MusicPrinter Plus",
	but I have never actually seen this stuff run.

	Anyone have experiences, comments on important feature, etc. 
	that they would like to share??

	Thanks.

-- 
Bert Dempsey   (bjd7p@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU)
Computer Science, University of Virginia

  "There are approximately 250 mice per gallon."
		
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From: elkies@zariski.harvard.edu (Noam Elkies)
Newsgroups: rec.music.compose,rec.music.classical
Subject: Concert Announcement (Harvard: Friday, 13 November)
Summary: a concert of choral music, about 50% contemporary
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:12:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov9.171216.17263
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Organization: Harvard Math Department


Harvard-Radcliffe Collegium Musicum and Radcliffe Choral Society present

                          "IN LIKE SPIRITS"
           a concert of music for mixed and women's chorus


                            P R O G R A M


Jameson Marvin conducts the Harvard-Radcliffe Collegium Musicum
in works for mixed choir from four centuries:

Kyrie Leroy                            John Taverner (c.1495-1545)

Gloria in excelsis Deo                 Thomas Weelkes (c.1575-1623)

The Choirmaster's Burial               Rodney Lister (1987)

His Spirit Lives                       Roger Bourland (1983)


Amor, Io Sento l'Alma                  Morten Lauridsen (1987)

Agnus Dei                              Noam Elkies (1988)

A un giro sol de' begl' occhi          Claudio Monteverdi (1567-1643)

Lass dich nur nicht nichts dauren      Johannes Brahms (1833-1897)


Beverly Taylor conducts the Radcliffe Choral Society
in contemporary and Romantic works for women's chorus:

Betset Israel / In exitu Israel (Psalm 114)
 [Arr. Joshua Jacobson, from Sephardic cantillation and Gregorian chant]

Gate of Heaven                         Randall Thompson (1899-1989)

From "Five Sacred Songs" (commissioned by the R.C.S.):
 Behold now praise the Lord (Psalm 134)
 Out of the deep (Psalm 130)           Grayston Ives (1983)

Laudate Dominum                        Egil Hovland (1976)

Four movements from "Choral Hymns from the Rig Veda"
                                       Gustav Holst (1874-1934)
Three Spanish songs:
 Desde el fondo de mi alma             Domingo Santa Cruz (1952)
 El Hacedor Y La Nin~a                 Elifio Rosa'enz (1986)
 Mata del anima sola                   A. Estevez (Arr. J. Carpenter)

 WHEN: Friday Nov.13, 8:00 PM
 WHERE: Sanders Theatre, Harvard
 HOW MUCH: $8 (Students and Seniors $5)

------------------------------------------------------------------------

My piece and probably also Bourland's are premiere performances.
Lauridsen's is from his set of six "Fire-songs" on Italian
madrigal texts which I reviewed for _Chorus!_ in 1990.
Most of the program is a cappella; the Brahms motet
will be accompanied on the piano and the Holst hymns
have a harp accompaniment.

Noam D. Elkies (elkies@zariski.harvard.edu)
Dept. of Mathematics, Harvard University
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From: fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields)
Subject: Another @#$&*^ postponement
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:08:18 GMT


Stop the presses!  The premiere of Call of the Shofar (composition for
trombone quartet by yours truely) has been postponed one more time!

This time they're pushing the limits on our written agreement, but they
hope to have 8 players, two to a part.

I won't waste bandwidth giving my reaction to this change of plans, but only
say that I'm looking into the possiblity of trying to get from my
locale in Michigan down to the Las Cruces/El Paso metro area in time to
show my face for it.  If I can get down there, I'll bring my shofar
with me!

The data from Professor Clason, the statistician who leads the trombone
group, follows.

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December 20, 1992
3:00 PM
New Mexico State University Recital Hall

Admission Gratis.

Masochists who like to hear wind bands do sound and tempo
checks can come early (like around 1 PM or so.)

[This is the December concert of the Mesilla Valley Community Band,
and my piece is to be played by the Mesilla Valley Trombone Choir, which
commissioned the work.-MHF]
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From: MJM@ZYLAB.MHS.CompuServe.COM (MJM)
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Subject: blow away --> NSS??

|| From: quaker!gerstel@vpbuild.vp.com
||
|| *I* certainly get chills when listening to "Night-Scented Stock".  Of
|| course, it always leaves me wanting MORE!!  Plus, wondering what on 
|| earth "Blow Away" (the song "NSS" is derived from) has to do with
|| "The Infant Kiss"???

Notwithstanding any number of plausible hypotheses, this question
begs the question on what do you base your assertion
that NSS is derived or even related to Blow Away?  Please elaborate!
Thanks.

-mjm


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Ok------What is a Sada Farl?  Im not to proud.
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:06:41 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
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In <9211122237.AA24081@ihc.compuserve.com> MJM@ZYLAB.MHS.CompuServe.COM (MJM) writes:


>Subject: blow away --> NSS??
>Message-ID: <921112210454_555063.0_CHL37-1@CompuServe.COM>

>|| From: quaker!gerstel@vpbuild.vp.com
>||
>|| *I* certainly get chills when listening to "Night-Scented Stock".  Of
>|| course, it always leaves me wanting MORE!!  Plus, wondering what on 
>|| earth "Blow Away" (the song "NSS" is derived from) has to do with
>|| "The Infant Kiss"???

>Notwithstanding any number of plausible hypotheses, this question
>begs the question on what do you base your assertion
>that NSS is derived or even related to Blow Away?  Please elaborate!
>Thanks.

>-mjm

Well, on an expert musical ear, most likely.  Listen carefully to both
songs.  The melodic line in the verse to "Blow Away",
 while not identical to NSS's
vocalese, is remarkably similar.

Drewcifer
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:10:09 -0500
From: marie@guppy.ai.mit.edu (Marie Lamb)
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Subject: First Kate Experience
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I first saw Kate on Saturday Night Live, and spent the next month
humming and singing, "Rol-LING theball..."  Everyone thought I
was nuts :-).  When I bought The Kick Inside, I almost cried I was
so happy.  Before that, I had spent a lot of time trying to 
convice people that Pat Benetar DID NOT originate "Wuthering Heights"!!
TKI still remains my favorite album, for sentimental reasons.

Anyone else get chills when they listen to "Night-Scented Stock"??

Marie
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From: Fiona_McQuarrie@sfu.ca
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Subject:  Sheet Music Rip-Off
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I just bought the sheet music book for THe Sensual World at a clearance
sale, and, boy, am I glad I didn't pay full price for it ($30.00 CDN). The
transcriptions of the songs consist of the melody line and guitar chords.
No bass, no orchestration, only the barest of "other stuff" (e.g. the line
that runs under the spoken opening of The Fog).

I could sit down for a few hours and probably work out a reasonable
approximation of this music myself - at least as much is what is passed off
as the "sheet music" in this book. This is a rip-off. I would much sooner
see production money spent on a *full* transcription. particularly for
songs this intricate and detailed, rather than on glossy photos and
posters.

Not a happy camper
Fiona McQuarrie
fmcquarr@sfu.ca

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From: v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (she listens like her head's on fire..)
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Subject: Re: which maniac?, looks, sundays
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In article <1992Nov11.213727.29146@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik) writes...
>In <23813.9211111658@subnode.aiai.ed.ac.uk> jeff@aiai.edinburgh.ac.uk (Jeff Dalton) writes:
> 
>>> >For some reason I woke up this morning with a strong urge to buy some 10,000
>>> >Maniacs. So I put forth the never answerable question: With which album
>>> >should I start?
> 
>>> DON'T start with the new album, Our Time In Eden...it really bites.

it doesn't bite!

> 
>>I don't know about _bites_, but don't start with it.
> 
>Well, bites is a strong word...but when only 1/3 of the album is really
>worth listening to, I get pretty disappointed.  I love the Maniacs and I
>wish they had made a different album...maybe it's Paul Fox's fault, maybe
>not.

I must admit that I like Our Time in Eden very much. I've noticed that not
alot of people like it that but it appeals to me very much. Probably because
it wasn't what I had expected...but I was pleasantly surprised.:-)

> 
>>I say: don't start with Blind Man's Zoo.  No, no, no.
> 
>Why not?  Blind Man's Zoo is coherent, well-made, lyrically excellent, dark
>and lush...in a word, wonderful.  If I hadn't started with this album I
>might not have listened to them at all...I think it's the best one they've
>made.
>
I agree that Blind Man's Zoo is wonderful but I wouldn't start with it.
I would recommend In My Tribe for anyone not familiar with 10,000 Maniacs.


>> 
>I think it might be difficult to get S of the IC, as to my knowledge it's no
>longer being pressed.  Most of the music from it went onto Hope Chest.  And
>I play BMZ again and again and again and it still sounds great.  What's your
>problem with it?

Everything on Secrets of the I Ching is on the Hope Chest. I had a tape of
SofIC taped off a record (horrible sound quality) and all the songs on that
tape were on the cd Hope Chest. The other songs come from Human Factor Number
5.

> 
>Still, from the sound of your musical tastes maybe you'd be best off
>starting with Hope Chest or In My Tribe--probably IMT.  Wishing Chair is
>good but pretty simplistic as far as style and chords go...it's better left
>to the experienced 10,000 Maniacs fan.

for your information, these are all their albums (that I'm aware of)
Human Factor No. 5        --both of these are complete on 
Secrets of the I Ching    --the Hope chest. I doubt you will find them
                            anywhere else.      

The Wishing Chair         --the cd contains tracks not on the tape or album

In My Tribe               --newer cds don't have the song Peace Train

Blind Man's Zoo
Hope Chest
Our Time in Eden    

> 
>Drewcifer
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:49:12 -0500
From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis)
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Subject: Happy Rhodes remixing
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Hi,

On an unKaTe tangent Jon Drukman wrote:

>i think happy should have me and the twitch crew do a techno/rave remix.
>(although it'll probably turn out more tribal/progressive house given that
>that's what i'm listening to now...)  send me the a capella vocal track and
>a finished mix so i can have a reference point and watch out.

Jon wants to remix happy! Is that a compliment or what? ;)

YES YES YES!!! I would love to here a remix of two Happy Rhodes songs. One
is 'Poetic Justice' and one is 'Wrong Century'. They are both very rhythmic
and especially the first one isn't done justice :) by the album version.
The live version was amazing, and inspired me to write an accompanying rap
for it, and Greg was going to work on a noize/rap/techno version of poetic
Justice, but then he went to New Jersey (Hi footah!). Anyway, Jon, if you
are interested in remixing either of these songs, if you still have them 
that is (I assume that after your review of Vickie's sampler you threw the tape
away :) ), please let us know. I am sure there are ectophiles out there who 
would love to hear PoJo remixed, and given Happy's status as fan-friendly, who
knows they might even release it if they like it!!! 

Angelos
+=====================================+
|'My ears have parasites'-hApPy RhOdEs|
+=====================================+
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Subject: Re: Kate stuff in Berkeley - where?
From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1992 01:26:24 GMT
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I am not brownfld@rcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Kenneth R Brownfield).  I didn't say:
>     Amoeba records on Telegraph Ave. (?) was a good place to check when I
>went there last year.
>     Tower records is also a good place to look (there is one in SF right?)

there's even one in berkeley - right around the corner from amoeba (it's on
durant, i believe).  unfortunately, it sucks.  i can't imagine they'd have
anything beyond the normal album releases.

also in berkeley is mod lang.  i forget where that is though.  check a phone
book.

i second the recommendation for amoeba - it kicks butt.

in san francisco proper, i wouldn't know where to look really.  i'd probably
suggest aquarius records in noe valley and streetlight records (one in noe,
right near aquarius, and one on market street near noe - there's also a
tower records near market & noe...)

if you get over to the haight, there's recycled records and reckless
records.  both are on haight.  reckless is at haight & masonic and recycled
is a few blocks west of that.  don't bother with rough trade - they suck.

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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I am not mailrus!gatech!eecom!wung@uunet.uu.net.  I didn't say:
>I vaguely remember people talking about this group as they relate to Kate 
>and I recently heard them on the local alternative station.  Any info on
>them would be appreciated.

two guys from leeds.  they make poppish techno.  it's not very good.  they
will be two hit wonders and then vanish off the face of the earth.

i saw the video for "something good" on MTV the other day.  it was something
mediocre.

(on the other hand, last rave i was at, my friend and i kept singing the
"ooooohhhI.." bit from "ooh I just know that..." back and forth at each
other.  i don't know why.)

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:10:53 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
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Subject: Kate/Sexual Orientation
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Reasons why gay/bi/les people are possibly more abundant among Katefans:

1.)  Content.  Ever listen to mainstream music?  I try not to.  But note
that there is *no place* for homosexual and bisexual lyrics among the
mainstream fare.  The closest mainstream music comes to mentioning same-sex
relationships is Tone-Loc's assertion that he won't "mess around with no
Oscar Meyer weiner."  Kate, on the other hand, not only mentions them
occasionally but mentions them favorably (Wow, Kashka, and possibly even
Cloudbusting if this debate reaches a certain conclusion).  It's only
natural for a gay person to be attracted to music that isn't all boy/girl
stuff.  Sophie B. Hawkins and Madonna have made places for lesbians (sort
of), and there's always Elton John and k.d.lang if you like that sort of
thing, but there's not a lot of explicit (not raunchy, explicit) material
for us glb's.  Note Erasure, Depeche Mode, etc. are all alternative
regardless of material success.

2.)  Taste.  This is a whopping generalization, but one which is based in
some fact.  Glb's tend, often, to be artistic people.  Whether this is
related in any way to sexuality is questionable, but immaterial.  The point
is that Kate is a talented artist whose work is above pop music by miles,
and artistic people notice that.

3.)  Femininity.  Don't start flaming 'till I tell you what I mean.  I've
noticed--again, a generalization--that a lot of gay or bi men are more
inclined toward female singers.  This is probably because they have no
"macho" mental blocks that preclude enjoyment of feminine, emotional lyrics. 
(Mariah Carey et al. don't count here.)  Tori Amos, for example, voices a
lot of male-oriented anger in her music; perhaps straight men are more
easily turned off by that.  This is not to say that there aren't open-minded
straight guys out there who aren't macho (sorry about all those negatives),
but let's face it, there are more macho straight guys than macho gay guys
(although the latter do exist).

4.)  Alternative.  Kate is alternative.  There may be no alternative to
Kate for us (ha ha) but she is classified as alternative.  Like attracts
like, too, and alternative lifestyles often enjoy alternative music.

Well, I'm running out of steam for the moment but there are lots of reasons
why glb's should enjoy Kate with more probability than others.  I'm neither
gay-bashing nor straight-bashing here; I'm bi myself so I have a pretty good
idea of what I'm talking about.  Any reactions?

Drewcifer
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