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From: c60a-zh@volga.Berkeley.EDU (A L L E N --LabA)
Subject: Re: how do they age beef (was: Re: Birk's)
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:33:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.002929.27190@PA.dec.com> reid@pa.dec.com (Brian Reid) writes:
>In article <bf!nn7q.bilan@netcom.com> bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan) writes:
>>
>>This is a question that has always puzzled me.  How in the world do
>>they age beef?  More specifically, what is the difference between
>>aging beef and beef just sitting in the freezer or refrigerator
>>getting old?
>
>You might not like the answer. Basically what it means to age beef is that
>you hang it in a refrigerator for a while before you cut it into pieces, and
>only the outside gets rancid; when you butcher the carcass you then trim off
>all of the pieces that got rotten when it was aging and the inside is all
>healthy and aged. 
>

The obvious question is: WHY???

Why age the beef?

ALLEN

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Subject: Re: Why do people like spicy-hot food?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 01:01:36 GMT
Organization: Netcom

js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
>My friend Dr. Frank Etscorn, a psychopharmacologist at New
>Mexico Tech (and inventor of the nicotine transderm), has
>done considerable research into the physiological basis
>of capsaicin addiction.
> :
>Dr. Etscorn has devised an experimental procedure that
>proves that the basis of chile addiction is that the heat
>releases endorphins, the heroin-like natural painkillers
>that are also said to cause addiction to strenuous exercise.


As someone who loves very hot food, I would have to say BULL-PUCKY!
The enjoyment I get from hot food has nothing to do with an after-effect.
The enjoyment is completely in the taste, not the effect.  Since I have
a very high tolerance for the "hotness", I find the spicy flavor as a
sort of extension of the flavor.  It's a time that I can get an extreme
taste without the taste being overbearing.

Speaking of spicy food, there a tendencies among restaurants to tone down
their spicy dishes to satisfy the majority of diners that only want mildly
spicy dishes.  This even seems to be happening with Thai restaurants. Can
anybody recommend restaurants, Thai or otherwise, that still have *very*
spicy dishes?




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan
From: gchin@ssf.Eng.Sun.COM (Gary Chin)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:31:15 GMT
Reply-To: gchin@ssf.Eng.Sun.COM
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: ssf

That is a mainly a seafood restaurant, with a very fine selection of fresh fish.
Try the steamed clams or muscles.

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In article 23802@leland.Stanford.EDU, dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen) writes:
>
>Has anybody tried Scott's Grill on Bayfront near Embarcadero,
>right across from Ming's Villa? My office is right near there
>and I've been curious about this place since we moved here.
>
>
>
>-- 
>Dave Eisen    dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU   Sequoia Peripherals: (415) 967-5644
>          	Some of my best friends are men.
>        --- Lisa Nee in "American Women Deserve a Tax Break."
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: tedh@cylink.COM (Ted Hadley)
Subject: Re: Scones
Organization: Cylink Corp.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:13:46 GMT

In article <l8l698INNpls@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>Ah, but the real question is: does "scone" rhyme with "cone" or "con"?
>
>Be sure to suffix your answer with "of course".
>

According to an English immigrant I work with, Scone rhymes with Cone.

According to my Scottish Gaelic instructor (from the Isle of Skye), Scone
rhymes with Con.

You choose. I prefer "CON".

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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: bagus@netcom.com (Mark E. Ruedy)
Subject: Re: Ginger Beer 
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 05:01:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

In article <1992Aug22.214142.5526@tsoft.sf-bay.org> meiboy@tsoft.sf-bay.org (MeiBoy of UCU) writes:
>	Are there any restaurants that serve ginger beer?  If not,
>then where can I go buy ginger beer?
>

I saw it today at "Fish and Chips, HW Salt" in the Fremont Hub.  That's
off Mowry, near Fremont Blvd.

Mark

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Subject: Re: laguna beach
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 01:27:13 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

In article <l8onlpINN9ej@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> babcock@manticore.Eng.Sun.COM (Gigi Babcock, Mgr IBM Connectivity) writes:
>Not exactly bay area but I hope you folks can help anyway.
>Any recommendations on good dinner places? Prices are no concern.
>We would be fairly casually dressed though.
>
>Thanks.
You shouldn't miss Pascal in Newport Beach, particularly if you like
fish prepared in the best provencal fashion. I don't know if it's
a regular menu item (the menu changes very quickly), but the swordfish
I recently had was perfectly cooked with sprigs of fresh rosemary.
And don't miss the chocolate terrine. Pascal is located in Plaza
Newport.



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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: samson@netcom.com (Peter Samson)
Subject: Re: REQ: places to buy sushi materials in sf
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:05:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: Japantown
Distribution: ba

In article <64137@cup.portal.com> DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong) writes:
>I am hoping that those in the 'know' on the net would point me to few
>stores in SF that sell sushi meat. Basically, I am looking for a replacement
>of Yaohan's of south bay in the City.

I don't know Yaohan's, but here are three suggestions in S.F. Japantown.

Uoki/K. Sakai 1656 Post St.   921-0515 (highly recommended);
Super Koyama  1790 Sutter St. 921-6529;
Maruwa Foods  1799 Post St.   563-1901.

I hope one of these will meet your needs.

  --Peter Samson.






Newsgroups: ba.food
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: Milk Farm?
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 23:24:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

In article <2302@unet.UUCP> linda@wendy.net.com (Linda Hill) writes:
>Has anyone ever stopped at the place off of I-80 (near Davis?) with the
>big black and white cow on top of it called the Milk something?  I've always
>wondered about it, but I've never taken the time to actually stop to try it.
>
Yeah!!!  They used to have A+ milkshakes, but that was years ago.
The ownership changed about 10 years ago - I think.
I don't think it's been open for 4 or 5 years now.
It used to be a great place to stop.
From: pal@xanadu.wpd.sgi.com (Anil Pal)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Indian or Meat-less (HELP!)
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:50:43 GMT
Reply-To: pal@wpd.sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Aug18.161816.5308@crc.ricoh.com>, chilton@crc.ricoh.com (Jeff Chilton) writes:
|> 
|>    Sorry folks,
|> 
|>     I know we did both these recently, but I just wasn't paying
|>     attention.  I'd like to take a non-carnivore out for dinner tonight,
|>     and indian food sounds perect.  The only problem is, I'm tired of
|>     [the usual suspects]

I'd recommend Kathmandu West, on the corner of Hollenbeck and
Homestead, on the Cupertino/Sunnyvale border.  It is Nepali food, which
is a lot like like Indian.  This place really does have good food, and
the prices are reasonable.

For vegetarian selections, I really like Kwati (which is a variety of
sprouted beans in sauce), Aloo Tama Bodi (potatoes, black-eyed peas and
really tender bamboo shoots), and an eggplant dish whose name I
forget.

-- 
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From: dan@BofA.COM (Dan Brockman)
Subject: Enricos
Organization: Bank of America, Capital Products, RMTG #5906
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:00:01 GMT


I had the best burger of my entire life at Enrico's
on Broadway 'tween Columbus and Kearny monday nite.
Also, a live singer intoned arias from Puccini's
Turandot while I dined.  They stay open past 10pm, too.

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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: c60a-zh@volga.Berkeley.EDU (A L L E N --LabA)
Subject: Re: Why do people like spicy-hot food?
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:23:56 GMT

In article <9208201801.AA05919@minos.nmt.edu> js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:

>

>burn.  No one starts out liking heat, it's definitely an
>acquired taste.  When I started school at New Mexico Tech, I
>couldn't stand it.  But since chiles were everywhere
>(especially in the cafeteria), I got used to it, and

Do you get used to the heat after you burn away all your taste buds?

Just wondering...

ALLEN
From: maslak@unix.SRI.COM (Valerie Maslak)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Locate Epazote Herb
Keywords: Locate Epazote Herb
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:40:10 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

Roger Reynolds Nursery on Encinal Ave. off El Camino in Menlo Park
had a few small pots of it yesterday when I was there.

Valerie Maslak
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: silk@src.dec.com (Nina Silk)
Subject: Re: Where to eat is South San Francisco?
Reply-To: silk@src.dec.com (Nina Silk)
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 02:23:57 GMT

Another interesting and fun place in South City is 
Barrio Fiesta,  a smallish Filipino restaurant 
near the intersection of Westborough Road and El Camino.

Lovely service (if it's your birthday, you'll be serenaded
quite professionally), interesting menu, very good food (I give
it about a ** or *** on Patricia Unterman's scale), reasonably
priced (we paid around $22 for two), unusual presentation.  Not
too many vegetarian dishes, mostly meat and fish oriented.  
A find.

Unlike other Filipino restaurants, the food here is not heavy. 

nina 


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From: chew@macross.csd.sgi.com (Stephen Chew)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: San Francisco
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:39:48 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <b9p802=i1dCz01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, minhtri@mcode.amdahl.com writes:
|> 
|>      Hello,
|> 
|>      Has anyone been to Fleur de Lys, The Sherman House, or Julius' Castle?
|> I'm looking for a nice, romantic, and quiet restaurant to celebrate a 
|> friend's birthday. 

Well, I've never been to any of the above nor the hornblower but when
has a lack of knowledge ever stop a netter from posting? ;^)

I've heard good things about Fleur de Lys but that was a about a year ago.
If you try it, please post a review.  I'm interested in this restaurant.

I have a friend who just went to Julius' Castle and she reads this group
but I doubt she'll post so I give you hearsay.  She said the view is great
and the setting is good. (romantic)  Unfortunately, that's where the 
compliments stopped.  The food was only OK (not bad but doesn't come up to
the atmosphere) and the service was very arrogant.  If you want to be looked
down upon and treated like "you're lucky to be there," then this is the 
place for you.  Personally, I would not experiment with this place on an
important occassion.  

If money is no object, (as opposed to, "I object, I have no money) try
Masa's.  Again I've never been here either but this is the "in" place.

For a great meal, excellent service and a cozy-romantic evening, try
L'olivier.  It's one of my favorite places.  Be sure to ask to be seated
in the main room.  The only problem with this place, is no view.

Anyways, for someone who hasn't been there, I've said alot.  I'll end now.
--
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Xref: sparky ba.food:2830 rec.crafts.brewing:4790
From: jweldon@sgi.com (Jack Weldon)
Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Gordon Biersch, Palo Alto
Date: 21 Aug 92 07:27:21 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <l96e4uINNckk@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> carole@peregrine.Sun.COM (Carole Parker) writes:
>In article <Bs40Fw.Erv@taligent.com> tom_santos@taligent.com (Tom Santos) writes:
>>How did you get the yeast from Gordon Biersch?  Who did you ask?
>>
>Ask Gordon.
>
>Gordon Biersch has a Brewers Brunch on Saturdays.  A tour of the brewery
>given by Gordon, himself, lunch, and a beer tasting session.  Call Gordon
>Biersch for details on time, etc.
>
>Information from Ed Falk.
>

A minor nit: His Name is DAN Gordon.  Not to worry, just an FYI.


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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: louis@well.sf.ca.us (Louis Jaffe)
Subject: Re: We Be Sushi
Summary: SF locations are good
Keywords: sushi
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 14:59:10 GMT

Didn't know We Be Sushi was operating on the Peninsula.  There
are two locations in San Francisco, one on Valencia, one on 
Geary.  Both serve good sushi at below-average prices.  It's not,
like, the world's best sushi, but it's good value in a no-frills
setting.  LJ
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: howard@sinoda.ultra.COM (Howard Simonson)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Keywords: steak south bay
Reply-To: howard@ultra.com
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 04:04:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.014847.23802@leland.Stanford.EDU>, dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen) writes:
|> 
|> Has anybody tried Scott's Grill on Bayfront near Embarcadero,
|> right across from Ming's Villa? My office is right near there
|> and I've been curious about this place since we moved here.

We're talking about the one in Palo Alto here, right?  Yeah, the wife and I
have been there once or twice (which is a drive for us from Cupertino area)
and we found it to be pretty good.  They're listed in (our edition) of the
Entertainment book, so we gave'm a try.  I seem to recall it as kinda big and
loud and noisy, very much a family place as I think we were ringed by kids
at one point.  Kinda the exact opposite of Scott's seafood in downtown S.J..
(however, I'm on the phone with my wife right now and she doesn't seem to
 have the same recollections of Scotts that I do, so maybe I'm daft.  Anyone
 wanna back me up on this, so I can tell the wife that *she's* daft :)
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From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Add to late-night Peninsula eateries
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:35:00 GMT

In article <37925@unix.SRI.COM> cole@unix.SRI.COM (Susan Cole) writes:
>For those seeking late-night dining:
>
>Jose's Caribbean Restaurant has completed its expansion and is now
>advertising food service until midnight, with the bar open until 2.

This must be a very recent change.  Alan and I were there a week ago,
and they were preparing to close around 9:30 pm.

>I
>haven't eaten there very recently, but their menu used to consist of things
>like black beans and rice, barbecued chicken and ribs, pizza, and empanadas,
>which are sort of inside-out individual pizzas.

It still does.  It's a different menu now; looks like Jose may have added
some items.

The spacious new addition has a dance floor and resident deejay.  The
music was so loud we could barely hear ourselves think (and the few people
there that night were there to eat, not dance), so we asked them to turn
it down, which they promptly did.  My BBQ beef empanada was, as always,
wonderful.

BTW, you can now get frozen Jose's empanadas at the Milk Pail Dairy in
Mountain View.  I'm gonna miss the Milk Pail when I move to Sunnyvale <sob>.

Charleen

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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jon@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: Locate Epazote Herb
Keywords: Locate Epazote Herb
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:43:40 GMT

spatton@spatton.next.com (Sharon Patton) writes:


>Can anyone help me to find where I can purchase this fresh or purchase a  
>starter plant?

   They sometimes have it fresh at the Monterery Market in th eStanford
Shopping Center -- though not always.

   I've also occasionally bought fresh epazote in some of the grocers on
24th Street in San Francisco -- but again, they don't always have it.

   If you do find fresh epazote and hang it up in your kitchen to dry,
the dried leaves are much better than the dried leaves you can buy
commercially.  Though not as good as fresh. 
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Stanford University       BITNET:  BR.JGC@RLG.STANFORD.EDU
From: meiboy@tsoft.sf-bay.org (MeiBoy of UCU)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Ginger Beer
Date: 22 Aug 92 21:41:42 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The TeleSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 7958


	Are there any restaurants that serve ginger beer?  If not,
then where can I go buy ginger beer?
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen)
Subject: Re: Milk Pail Closed (was: Add to late-night Peninsula eateries)
Organization: Sequoia Peripherals, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 21:00:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.161746.24912@kronos.arc.nasa.gov> chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.143500.16596@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>>BTW, you can now get frozen Jose's empanadas at the Milk Pail Dairy in
>>Mountain View.  I'm gonna miss the Milk Pail when I move to Sunnyvale <sob>.
>
>You don't have to move to Sunnyvale to miss the Milk Pail.  I went by
>this morning looking to pick up some milk, and it was obviously
>closed, with a "For Sale" sign out front.

Hmmmm.... I was just there yesterday. And it was business as usual.
And I just called them a minute ago and they were open. Don't know
how you could have seen them closed this morning....



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From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: REQ: places to buy sushi materials in sf
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 15:38:36 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

I am hoping that those in the 'know' on the net would point me to few
stores in SF that sell sushi meat. Basically, I am looking for a replacement
of Yaohan's of south bay in the City. Having followed my bliss and moved back
to SF, Yaohan's is probably the only thing that I'll miss from south bay.
 
thanks for sharing any info on this...

/bruce (now I can call anything south of union street Southern Cal... :-) )
From: cole@unix.SRI.COM (Susan Cole)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Add to late-night Peninsula eateries
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:23:33 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

For those seeking late-night dining:

Jose's Caribbean Restaurant has completed its expansion and is now
advertising food service until midnight, with the bar open until 2.  I
haven't eaten there very recently, but their menu used to consist of things
like black beans and rice, barbecued chicken and ribs, pizza, and empanadas,
which are sort of inside-out individual pizzas.

Their phone number is (415)326-6522 and their address is approximately 2275
El Camino Real in Palo Alto, in the second block north of California Avenue.
(That's their old address but they only expanded into the next door store.)

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From: mcnally@wsl.dec.com (Mike McNally)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:58:04 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: DEC Palo Alto

jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:

>Where are all the yuppie/granola grocery stores ... ?

My speciality.

>I don't know how to explain exactly what I'm looking for except to say
>that in Houston I liked going to Auchan's (french hypermarket), Rice
>Epicurian, and Whole Foods (expensive and anti-union, but good
>produce).

Well, there are two Whole Foods Markets in the Bay area (to my knowledge;
there may be more), one in Palo Alto and one in Berkeley.  These are
very much like the ones in Austin, Dallas, and Houston, except that they
don't carry Artesia.

Cosentino's Markets in Santa Clara (Homestead at Lawrence) and Campbell
(Bascom at Union) are really fabulous neighborhood groceries.  Excellent
produce, meats, and deli sections, decent wine selection (though I buy
most wine at Trader Joe's or Liquor Barn), and truly friendly people
make Cosentino's a rare standout.  Not yuppie, really.

Draegers is good, but expensive.  Andronico's (Berkeley) is very nice.

Marina Foods in Cupertino (De Anza at Stevens Creek, sort-of) is a neat
place to go looking for Oriental foods.  Tin Tin (Mountain View and
Cupertino) is also good for this.  Oakville (Stanford Mall) has an
unbeatable cheese selection, along with other goodies.

Dittmer's (San Antonio at California, Mt. View) is *the* place to go 
for smoked meats.

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From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Subject: Re: Where to eat is South San Francisco?
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 21:47:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

In article <1992Aug18.195149.8844@leland.Stanford.EDU> jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>
>	We're looking for some place that's casual, relatively inexpensive,
>and perhaps ethnic in some way shape, or form--   (Italian, Middle-eastern,
>Mexican, Vietnamese, whatever).

You must, you simply must, go to Ristorante Buon Gusto, which is on 
Grand Avenue, in the old down-town area, just a block up from Airport
Blvd. This is a truly GREAT Italian Bistro, run by an old-world 
gentleman. Great prices, great service, phenomenal pasta and meat
dishes.
 
Greg
From: amdease@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Ann Dease)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Wine
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:14:11 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Pacific * Bell


I'd like to get recommendations/comments on any wine bars in the
San Francisco & East Bay area.  Also, would like to know of any
wine appreciation classes in the area.

Thanks.