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From: gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Tom Sorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Must I have to reformat to install the new OS/2 2.1 beta
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:58:53 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1993Jan25.175940.10959@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>In article <81692@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Tom Sorensen) writes:
>>Question- I'll gladly format and reinstall, but how can I keep my GA+SP desktop?
>>I've got WPSBackup but is it safe to restore the 2.0 desktop (w/ INI files)
>>over the 2.1 one? I really don't want to deal with going through all the
>>customization again.

>Followup it is.  WPSBackup seems to work pretty well.  You can get it
>as wpsbk7.zip, I believe, from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

I've got it but it really doesn't solve the problem- how can I format the
partition, install 2.1b, and then restore my old desktop? Like I said, I'm not
sure it would be a good idea to run WPSRestore *AFTER* installing the beta.

IBM needs to come with a way to do this- format your partition and still retain
the desktop. So far reformating has been the most stable way to upgrade the
system.
         Tom Sorensen


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From: mystical@nmt.edu (Gurupartap Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 2.1 beta -- Trap 000d
Keywords: trap d, beta
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:07:02 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Tech

>Here's the numbers if they're useful to anybody:
>
>TRAP 000d       ERRCD=0bc0  ERACC=****  ERLIM=********
>EAX=7d2b0104  EBX=0000e3ac  ECX=ff080000  EDX=ffe20bc0
>ESI=7d19e3ac  EDI=0000001f  EBP=0000556e  FLG=00013202
>CS:EIP=0148:00000e24  CSACC=009b  CSLIM=0000854a
>SS:ESP=0030:00005564  SSACC=1097  SSLIM=0000469b
>DS=0400  DSACC=0093  DSLIM=000070c0  CR0=8001001b
>ES=0158  ESACC=c093  ESLIM=ffffffff  CR2=005e4a00
>FS=03b8  FSACC=0093  FSLIM=00000023
>GS=0000  GSACC=****  GSLIM=********
>
>The system detected an internal processing
>error at location ## 0160:fff60967 - 000d:9967
>60000,9084
>
>048600b4
>Internal revision 6.479, 92/12/09

I get the exact same thing every time I try to use the icon editor in
2.1beta.  Anybody else?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Thunderboard drivers?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:12:05 GMT

In article <C19tCq.2G7B@austin.ibm.com> gregb@pro-lep.cts.com writes:
>I've been sort of looking for a soundboard, but one without all the
>extras that seem to have become "standard", i.e. cd-rom port,
>brain-dead MIDI, since I'm already pretty well loaded up on that.  I
>was given a pointer to the Thunderboard, made by Media Vision.  Does
>anyone know if the latest MV MMPM drivers will work on this board?

If they do, they would be considered beta, so I still think it is too
early to go with Media Vision.

There's an .ibm.com suffix to your netmail address -- how about an IBM
M-Audio adapter?  Yes, they make one for the AT bus.  Yes, it supports
16-bit audio.  And it actually isn't that expensive -- $235 through
IBM Direct (800-IBM-2-YOU in the United States) or $222 educational
pricing.

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From: mystical@nmt.edu (Gurupartap Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 2.1 bugs, suggestions. (was Re: 2.1b bug and editorial comment on killing processes)
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:58:57 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Tech


>While we are talking about features to minimize mouse movement -- how about
>putting the CLOSE option at the top of the pull-down menu invoked by the
>top left corner of a window? 9 times out of 10, if I open the menu, that's what
>I want to do, rather than having to hunt down the list to find it at some
>window-dependent place in the list?
>

Actually, you can just double-click on the box in the top left corner and
it closes the window by default.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley)
Subject: CONTRACT: OS/2 C++ LISP San Jose
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:53:17 GMT


------SAN JOSE, CALIFORNIA CONTRACT -------

3-6 months contract for OS/2 C C++ capable programmer.  Will assist
research team port a Symbolics LISP-based application to OS/2 in 
C++ and C.  MUST have current OS/2 expertise.  AI would be a plus,
LISP familiarity.  But *strong* OS/2.

Contract location: San Jose.

W-2 or 1099. Sorry, no expenses, so Bay Area conractor preferable.

Send resume (plan text of RTF Format, no troff) by email here,

or FAX to (408) 741-0511.

I will be out of the office until 2/3/93. But I *will* get back with
any respondees then.

Thanks!

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: todd@kastle.com (Todd A. Scalzott)
Subject: Re: Adaptec 1542 and me: no joy
Reply-To: todd@kastle.com
Organization: Kastle Development Associates, Arlington, VA, USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:07:57 GMT


In article <sridhar.728173274@fir.cs.scarolina.edu> sridhar@cs.scarolina.edu (M. A. Sridhar) writes:

>   toy@crd.ge.com (Raymond L. Toy) writes:
>
>
>   >I borrowed an Adaptec 1542B to use in my machine for a while to see
>   >how things would go.  Sadly, they don't go very well.  
>
>   >I made a backup and then reformatted the disk using as suggested in
>   >the manual.  Restored from backup, and everything was just fine.
>   >Everything would work just as it used to.  Except when I pound on the
>   >disk reading and writing files.  Then, BOOM---internal processing error.
>
>   >It seems that under heavy disk activity, the whole system is flakey.
>   >It causes some program to halt with access violations.  When the disk
>   >activity stops, and I rerun the exact same program, everything goes
>   >just fine.  Other times the whole thing stops with an internal
>   >processing error.  Usually trap e at the same location.
>
>   I have never had good success with getting the Adaptec to work. I have
>   precisely the same symptoms as you describe, and with a similer
>   environment -- only I have *two* IDE drives on my IDE controller, in
>   addition to the SCSI drive. And I have a Wangtek tape drive. I have
>   just about given up on getting the SCSI drive to work under OS/2 for
>   now; I'm hoping that the 2.1 beta will behave better.
>
>   Oh -- I do know this is not a hardware problem. The system works fine
>   under DOS and Dell Unix.
>
We just had a similar problem here.  The system worked fine under DOS and
Unix, but the BETA would crap out.  What I found was that the DMA speed on
the adaptec was set from 5.0MB/sec to 5.7MB/sec.  Changing it to 5.0MB did
the trick.  The jumper is J5 (I believe), pins 12 and 13 open.

good luck...
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Kastle Development Associates                         ...!uunet!friend!todd

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: thompson@titan.trl.OZ.AU (David Thompson)
Subject: Trackball PS2 MOUSE on OS2
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:14:31 GMT

Hi all,
I have a toshiba 4400sx with a ps2 mouse port, trackball connected
Is there a driver for the trackball so it can recognise the ps2 mouse
port as distinct from com1/com2. I tries the os2-1.3 driver but as usual
its not compatible (not even close) and microsoft probably wont support
os2/2.0
I would appreciate any help in this matter TIA.


Dave Thompson
d.thompson@trl.oz.au

Melbourne, Australia

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dak@ferrari.mst6.lanl.gov (Dave Korzekwa)
Subject: Info Wanted on Gateway 2K Video Systems
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab, Group MST-6
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:26:43 GMT

I have seen some complaints about Gateway 2000's local bus video
systems with GA+SP.  I am considering buying a 486-33 or 486-33V
system from them.  The 486-33 comes with an on-board Western Digital
chipset, and the 33V has a local bus ATI Ultra Pro chipset.  I would
like to hear from people who have these systems to find out whether 
these systems work well or not, and at what resolution.

A short e-mail reply is preferred, but I will watch this group, also.
I will summarize if I get enough replies.

Thanks

Dave Korzekwa
Los Alamos National Laboratory
dak@mustang.mst6.lanl.gov

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: jdickins@cs.umr.edu (James Dickinson)
Subject: Re: Some killer apps..was: economics of os2 for ibm
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:23:19 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla, Rolla, MO

In article <1993Jan21.192654.20452@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu> rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner) writes:
>Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>
>>In article <1jh8g4$3fj@agate.berkeley.edu> jp1ek@sunc.shef.ac.uk writes:
>>> 
[stuff deleted..]

>Well, the apps are starting to show up.  I was at the Windows & OS/2 
>Conference yesterday (San Jose, CA) and IBM had the largest presence at
>the show, all hyping OS/2.  They had one booth full of ISV's
>demonstrating their apps and most of them were '32-bit' according
>to the vendors.  IBM also had a booth specifically for vendors, a
>training area, and a test-drive area where you could actually try out
>some of the new OS/2 2.x apps.  The biggest name vendor showing a 
>32-bit OS/2 2.x app was WordPerfect - WP 5.2 for OS/2 was being
>shown publically for the first time.  

What was your impression of WP for OS/2? Did it use long character filenames?
Any other relevant information?
 
[more stuff deleted..]
>touch the sacrosanct machines (fear of users seeing it crash?).
>
>
>>-- 
>>Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand |      
>>Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |        Space for rent.
>>+64 4 478 4714                          |   - cheap rates, nice location. 
>>**** Happy user of OS/2 b2.1 ****       | 

Jim
From: Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 mirror on edc3jr down for now
X-Sender: newtout 0.07 Jan  3 1993
Date: 21 Jan 93  09:42:38

Tuesday January 19 1993 15:43, Robert L. Sillett wrote to All:

RS-> I've been having major problems with edc3jr.gsph.pitt.edu since I
RS-> placed the OS/2 2.1 beta on it.  I don't know whether the huge ftp
RS-> load is the problem or the machine is dying....so I've turned off
RS-> anonymous ftp for now.

    I'm one of the people who got the package from you while it was up and
working fine, and I'd like to thank you for making it available as long as you 
did.

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From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: converting GIF ---===> BMP
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:28:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62711.student.cwru.edu

In article <C1Ev52.Fn1@panix.com> os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.) writes:
>Get the Image Toolkit and Image Browser from the CD-ROM.  The Image Toolkit
>can load GIFs (plus BMPS, etc.) and can save in BMP format.  Load the image
>into IBROW and save as a BMP with the attributes you like.

Another good one, if you're a windows user, is WINGif 1.4, available from
(I think) wuarchive.wustl.edu.
From: duchow@galaxy.ucr.edu (John Duchowski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: More on FDFORMAT/FDREAD
Date: 23 Jan 93 03:08:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

Hello again Everyone,

Hmm...  in response to my post about FDFORMAT/FDREAD I received several replies
for which I am very grateful.

However, unfortunately for me, the consensus of these replies seems to be
that it is a hardware problem.  I am using a Micronics i486 33 MHz EISA
motherboard with a Phoenix BIOS and OS/2 2.0 with the Service Pack installed.
Just as some of the replies indicated, both floppy drives are TEAC, the 5.25"
being FD-55GFR and the 3.5" being FD-235HF.  As far as I can tell, the
controller (IDE) is a cheapo, noname, Taiwanese board.  Having found all
this out, I am now thinking of upgrading these to something more flexible.
Also, while I'm at it, I am thinking of going all the way to the new 2.88 MB
format.  Could anyone suggest possible alternatives ?  Which controllers,
floppy drives, etc. work best with OS/2 ?  My HD is a 200 MB Maxtor which
thus far (knock on wood) has been working very quietly and reliably.

Before I start dropping major $$$, some sugegstions above included editing
OEM strings in the boot sector.  Could someone please enlighten me what
that does, how to do it and what possible benefits might be reaped from
doing so ?  Many thanks to all of you for your help and suggestions.

John
From: azzarito@cse.fau.edu (Doug Azzarito)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Syslevel (was Re: Can I *PLEASE* get a fast COMM driver that &^$#* works!?)
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:27:23 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <1993Jan25.170519.5317@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU> jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin) writes:
>Why can't IBM have a syslevel directory, whose location is stored in the
>os2sys.ini, or something similar?  Just a suggestion...

SYSLEVEL's job is to check each file, and determine if the file is a product
with specific release info in it.  It's the equivalent of greping your
entire disk.  What would a SYSLEVEL directory do?  I want to look at the
actual executable and see what release it is.
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why are os/2 manuals so usless?
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:56:26 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan25.072551.6055@digi.lonestar.org> kgallagh@digi.lonestar.org (Kevin Gallagher) writes:
>>In any event, I'm hearing that a "real" manual will be included in the
>>2.1 shrinkwrap.  What appears to be a draft of the manual is on the
>>2.1 beta CD-ROM.
>I purchased a hardcopy of the 2.0 GA Command Reference manual (cost me nearly
>$40!).  It is quite a bit easier to read and look up information in the
>hardcopy version than in the on-line version, this is for certain.  (I grew
>quite tired of chasing one reference after another, sometimes going in
>circles, looking for the DETAILED information I needed, when I used the
>on-line version!)

The price on this manual has been reduced, by the way.  I think it is
more like $20 now.

>However, the Command Reference manual is skimpy, to say the least.  It is the
>place to look up the syntax of a command you already know you want to use for
>a particular purpose.  But don't expect to find any detailed technical
>discussion of why and how you might want to use any of the commands!  And
>don't expect to find many non-trivial examples of how to use the command.
>Most commands have NO examples.  IBM gets a D- here on user documentation.
>User documentation is one of the BIGGEST problems with OS/2!  Without
>excellent user documentation which provides sufficient technical information
>to isolate, diagnose, and fix most end user problems, OS/2 will fail.

Everybody makes things sound so black and white.  I'd agree with the
last sentence if it said, "...OS/2 will be more likely to fail."

The documentation provided should be appropriate for the audience.
IBM clearly misjudged this aspect of the product in 2.0; 2.1 will have
a "real" manual.  However, we all can I agree (I hope) that the
particulars on remote LAN installation from a Novell Server (for
example) or writing an installable file system do not belong in the
base product documentation.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: schepers@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Peter Schepers)
Subject: Re: (?) Changing the view of desktop 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:01:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.223614.29185@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.143649.2688@cs.brown.edu> wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni) writes:
>>This may sound silly. But, how can I change the appearance of
>>workplace shell from one view to another? For normal folders,
>>just OPEN->SETUP->MENU->.. But this doesn't work for WPS.
>>Thanks for any help!
>
>Bring up the Window List (CTRL-ESC), click on the Desktop entry with
>mouse button two, then select Open -> (your preferred view).  You can
>keep this view on the desktop -- or even maximize it -- when you
>shutdown.  Unless you've disabled automatic application restart, it
>will come back up when you restart.
>

I found this does not work. What I have to do is click on the DESKTOP (not
desktop in the task list) and select my view style. There is no 'OPEN' in
the task list when clicking on the Desktop option. Am I missing something?


Peter.
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Boca Super VGA loses sync in fullscreen DOS
Date: 23 Jan 1993 14:25:53 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston


My father recently replaced his VGA with a Boca Super VGA board, based on the
ET4000. He's tried with 2.0 GA, SP, and the 2.1 beta, and in all three, at any
resolution, when he brings up a fullscreen DOS session (including a fullscreen
Windows session), the monitor loses sync; an Alt-Home, followed by the Enter
key, brings up *two* reduced size WPS images side-by-side, apparently split by
scan line. The only way out of this situation is to reboot. The board has 1
meg of RAM. The system is my old Mylex 386SX-16, with 8 meg or main memory and
a Phoenix 386 BIOS PLUS v1.10. His old board, an ET3000, had this problem
before the Service Pack in VGA mode. Any ideas?
-- 
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jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
    "I don't want to read poor Microsoft bashing. I want to read good
Microsoft bashing." -- Douglas A. Bell, in comp.os.os2.advocacy (Me too!)
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Wish List
Date: 24 Jan 93 23:00:05 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan24.193852.10246@odin.diku.dk> joker@diku.dk (Morten Christian Holmgreen) writes:
>>>>Partial OS/2 release 2.1 wishlist:
>>>>1. Password for all icons and folders with master password for everything
>>>>   in case forgotten.
>>PC/DACS provides this sort of feature.  It is available for the price
>>of $49 if you mention the OS/2 Coupon Book.  (See the FAQ List for
>>details.)
>Who is PC/DACS? Do you have a phone-number, that's NOT a 1-800 number, since
>I can't call that here from Denmark?

Well, I did say, "See the FAQ List for details."  I meant it, because
the non-800 telephone number for Pyramid, makers of PC/DACS, is given
in it.  In Question 1, as a matter of fact.

I'm not trying to be rude, but it is important to read a newsgroup's
Frequently Asked Questions List.

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From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 2.1 beta won't load on Zeos
Date: 24 Jan 1993 20:42:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, akennedy@mercury.ncat.edu () says:

>I have tried to load the 2.1 beta on a Zeos 33/486 w/ 8MB RAM
>210 MB IDE Western Digital HD, Diamond Speedstar video card
> without any success! The IBM blue logo comes up fine with
>the first installation disk. Then when I put in disk one
>the floppy drive light comes on for awhile then it beaps
>and the blue IBM logo remains on the screen.
>
>I have tried this with the IBM1S506.ADD that comes with the
>beta, the newest version 12/19/92, a verion on hobbes, and
>the present version that I have on my GA+SP version. None
>of them work!
>
>I took the exact disk home and it started up flawlessly on my
>G2000. I didn't install it though because I don't screw around
>with my home machine!
>
>IBM GET IT RIGHT!

Not to say that IBM should not make OS/2 work on a Zeos computer,
but Zeos has taken a very hostile attitude to OS/2, which may 
explain, (or be explained) by the fact that it doesn't work on your Zeos.

Does OS/2 GA work on your computer?  You will have to use some
patches to make it work because of the speed star 24x.  The 24x
should no stop you from running with vga resilutions under 2.1
though.
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