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From: sergei+@cs.cmu.edu (Sergei Nirenburg)
Subject: Re: Old Soviet kitsch -- on request
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 18:26:21 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Apr14.145314.26561@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> lego@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Martin Lee Group) writes:

>>|>          Sirenevyj Tuman
>>|>          ---------------

>I remember this song performed by Victor Markin and his group "Trudnoe detstvo"
>("Tough Childhood") - it became a hit in 1990 in Sovok
>The video of the song was also pretty good.
>
>VS

Well, it seems that there is a cycle for everything. Seems to be around 30
years long in this case. This song was very popular circa 1960, though it
was never to my knowledge sung on the airwaves. I am sure, though, that it
dates from earlier than 1960. It may be either really a folk song (you know,
the urban folklore type) or a song by an emigrant (a la Petr Leshchenko or
Oscar Strok or Boris Fomin) that was listened to "na kostyax" ("on the
bones").

[a quick quiz for you guys --- do you still remember what this expression
means?]

As the song is a tango, Oscar Strok becomes a suspect. But his tangos are
all so much more entertaining (e.g., Tatiana, Moe poslednee tango, Lunnaya
rapsodiya and many many more) that it seems unlikely. 

Let's talk more about these things. Gives me infinitely more pleasure than Mutlu.

Cheers

Sergei
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 10:45:35 EDT
From: <OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: News update

While trying to keep up with the latest breaking news out of Afghanistan,
we have received the following reports, not all of which can be verified
independently:

1-  Najib has handed all powers to a military council in Kabul and has
    effectively resigned his position as head-of-state. Unconfirmed reports
    said he attempted to leave the country but was prevented from doing so
    when soldiers and officers at Kabul Airport blocked his access. Najib
    is said to have returned to the city and taken refuge at the United
    Nations representative's offices.

2-  UN special representative Benon Sevan is in Kabul at the moment and
    is trying to put together a coalition care-taker government that may
    fill the power vacuum. He is expected to make an announcement in the next
    few hours. It is not known whether the Mujahedeen forces who are
    surrounding the capital city will accept the UN's latest efforts or
    advance towards Kabul.

3-  A report out of Kabul said Gen. Yakoobi, Najib's National Security
    minister and a high-ranking member of the ruling Marxist regime
    has committed suicide.

More news to be posted as it becomes available.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 13:36:05 EDT
From: <OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: News flash update

This is an update of the news flash posted this morning:

                        *********************
                             U P D A T E
                        *********************

     The BBC and other reliable international news agencies are now
     reporting that only hours after the advance of commander Ahmad Shah
     Massoud's forces towards Kabul, and the capture of the towns of Jabolsaraj
     and Charikar, and the seige of the Bagram Air base, Bagram has now
     fallen into Mujahedeen hands. There are reports of waves of Kabul
     regime troops defecting to Massoud's side and little resistance shown
     on the part of Najib's forces. These latest reports do however mention
     that so far the latest events have not been independently confirmed.
     It is worth mentioning that the Bagram Air Base is located about 40 miles
     North of Kabul and is considered as a vital military base of important
     strategic value.

                        ******  END UPDATE ******
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 10:41:05 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject:    problem

Salam bar hama dostan
I have  not been able to post anything for the past 3 weeks, is any one else
having this problem...
today is my first day of being able to post in 3 weeks.

Sayed.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.islam,soc.culture.afghanistan
From: lhermi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Subject: Nari Takbir _Allahu Akbar
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 05:57:53 GMT

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From: iqbal@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Kamran Iqbal)
Subject: US PANIC OVER EVENTS IN AFGHANISTAN
Originator: iqbal@fermion.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:02:50 GMT


		US PANIC OVER RECENT EVENTS IN AFGHANISTAN
		******************************************

	It is no secret that in the post-communist world UN role has
been reduced to be a watch-dog for US interests.  This fact is the
single major destabilizing factor for the volatile world situation
today.  And MILITANT ISLAM is the only remaining threat to the US
interests as declared openly by the ex-public officials in the media.
Thus, it is no surprise that both US and UN are panicing over the
recent turn of events in Afganistan.

	NPR and other public media have long since discontinued the
use of word 'Mujahideen'.  'US supported rebels' is the new phrase in.
Of course this only refers to those groups which have indicated a
wilingness to tow the American line.  How many times you have heard
the name of Ahmed Shah Masood on NPR as the 'most powerful gorilla
commander' in Afghanistan.  It is very obvious that US is now planning
to slavage the situation.  In the wake of the fall of Kabul, US wants
to make sure that only those groups most receptive to US take over
power.  This is complemented with frequent references to division of
Afghanistan along ethnic lines.  It is time that all third world
nations awaken up to the threat of American Imperialism.
-- 
KAMRAN IQBAL	  | In the name of Allah, the beneficient, the merciful.
Dept of Elec Eng  |  "I bear witness that there is no god but ALLAH,
Ohio State Univ   |   I bear witness that MUHAMMAD is his messenger".
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: WALID@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Walid Majid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Najib and the end of communism
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:20:29 GMT
 <92107.103953WALID@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Salam again,

CNN is now reporting that Najib has taken refuge at the UN mission in
Kabul Jan.  They also report that two of Najib's vice-presidents have
taken control of the government.  They have not named them.  Anyone
out there know about this?  This is in cotradiction of earlier reports
and rumors that the Mujahedins have taken Kabul.

Has anyone heard anything new and interesting?  Please share it with us.

Ba Ehteram,

Walid

P.S. Where are all the Afghans on the Net?  Don't be shy, this could be
our day.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Friday, 17 Apr 1992 11:21:34 EDT
From: <OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Question?

I have the same question raised by my friend Walid Majid today:

Where are all the Afghans on this network?
I have been wondering for a while now, why is it that only a
handful have taken the time to contribute to this medium?

I have several possible answers but none that makes real sense.
I am sure that we can learn a lot from each other, even if we
have to disagree with each other's opinions and thoughts.
Disagreeing and arguing about various issues (in a respectful manner)
should be part of our learning experience. This is my opinion and
you don't have to agree with it, and if you don't, I would like
to know, maybe you can clarify something for me.

Our country and our people are going through a historic and crucial period
at this moment. The country's future hangs in the balance and whether
we like it or not we are all a product and a victim of those events.
In the same way that our being here, in this society, was caused by
the flow of events back home. At least that's the case for me. So we
can't really ignore these matters. We don't always have to talk politics
either. That's not the only topic of conversation, and shouldn't be. We
have a culture that includes, literature, poetry, music... a history worth
discussing and debating, a society worth examining, a future worth imagining...
We can discuss our problems and their solutions as refugees in this society..
and so much more....So let's participate and let's share.

Somehow, i had to get this off my chest. I am not lecturing and I am not
preaching, I am just giving a piece of my mind.

Ba omid-e azadi, solh, adalat wa massawat baray-e mardom-e afghanistan.

Khodawand negahdar.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: CONGRATS
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:48:57 GMT

Congratulations to all the people of Afghanistan.
The Hindu scriptures say I am amazed at the power of the God by whose
grace the lame can walk and the dumb can speak.
People's power is a wonderful thing, which when focussed can create wonders:
which was proven earlier in this century by Gandhi.
Hope that Afghanistan will rise above the mess that so called muslims have
made of Islam and become a beacon for world peace.
Arindam Ghosh

Arindam Ghosh		(OFF) 713-749-4451
4402 Polk #3		(RES) 713-924-3069
Houston TX-77023

Asato ma sadgamaya, Tamaso ma jyotirgamaya,
mrityorma amritam gamaya.
[ From unreal to real, from darkness to light, 
from death to immortality]
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 19:11:27 EDT
From: <OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: test

testing....
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: mmasood@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mohammed A Masood)
Subject: UN Peace Plan & Afghanistan
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:04:40 GMT

	WHY UN "PEACE" EFFORTS IN AFGHANISTAN SHOULD BE DENOUNCED

	*********************************************************

	United Nations has recently accelerated its efforts to bring
"peace" to Afghanistan.  The question arises where were these efforts
when the Afghan people were being killed through Napalm Bombs and the
Machine Guns of the communist soldiers?  Can the peace be established
on the charred bodies of 2M Afghans in the way UN is proposing it to
be established?  Or, does the exterminator of 2M human human beings
has a right to ask for peace?  Can we ever hope to abolish injustice
in this way?

	For those who remember WWII, would you have agreed to Hitler's
call for peace or a share for the war criminals in the German
Government when the Allied forces were just 30 miles away from Berlin?
Wouldn't it seem to be the most absurd and outrageous idea to you?
Would you have agreed to anything less than an unconditional
surrender?  Would it have been justified for the League of Nations to
promote peace at that point?

	Or, would it have been justified for Nikoli Chousesko to talk
about peace when his castle was under siege?  Would you, as a freedom
loving individual, have granted his request for peace?  Do you find
any mercy for such a criminal in your heart?  Would you have supported
any such an effort by the UN?

In a similar way, it is absurd for the UN to promote peace and a
coexistence for communists at this point in Afghanistan.  The blood of
2M Afgans is not so cheap.  The freedom fighters did not sacrifice 2M
of their brethren to see themselves robbed of a victory in the name of
peace.  

It is time for every freedom loving person to denounce so-called
"peace" efforts by UN.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: souissi@ei.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi)
Subject: Re: US PANIC OVER EVENTS IN AFGHANISTAN
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 15:04:32 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.130250.18256@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu> iqbal@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu (Kamran Iqbal) writes:
>
>		US PANIC OVER RECENT EVENTS IN AFGHANISTAN
>		******************************************
>
>	It is no secret that in the post-communist world UN role has
>been reduced to be a watch-dog for US interests.  This fact is the
>single major destabilizing factor for the volatile world situation
>today.  And MILITANT ISLAM is the only remaining threat to the US
>interests as declared openly by the ex-public officials in the media.
>Thus, it is no surprise that both US and UN are panicing over the
>recent turn of events in Afganistan.
>
>	NPR and other public media have long since discontinued the
>use of word 'Mujahideen'.  'US supported rebels' is the new phrase in.

They also used to call them "Freedom Fighters" before in the old
days when they were fighting the evil empire.  They are not called
by this name anymore.

>Of course this only refers to those groups which have indicated a
>wilingness to tow the American line.  How many times you have heard
>the name of Ahmed Shah Masood on NPR as the 'most powerful gorilla

Just a minor correction: I think the above should be "guerilla" (sp?).

>commander' in Afghanistan.  It is very obvious that US is now planning
>to slavage the situation.  In the wake of the fall of Kabul, US wants
>to make sure that only those groups most receptive to US take over
>power.  This is complemented with frequent references to division of
>Afghanistan along ethnic lines.  It is time that all third world
>nations awaken up to the threat of American Imperialism.
>-- 
>KAMRAN IQBAL	  | In the name of Allah, the beneficient, the merciful.
>Dept of Elec Eng  |  "I bear witness that there is no god but ALLAH,
>Ohio State Univ   |   I bear witness that MUHAMMAD is his messenger".


Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: u8800914@cs.uow.edu.au (Mohammad Salim Olime)
Subject: testing
Summary: testing
Keywords: testing
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:56:47 GMT

testing
.
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From: ab0kfc@gdt.bath.ac.uk (K F Chow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.african,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: BMS survey
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:32:08 GMT
Organization: School of Architecture, University of Bath, UK

If you are an undergradate of engineering you may like to
do a questionnaire through email, on the subject "Building
Management Systems". This questionnaire is being done by 
your counterparts at USA, CAN, & UK. Comparison will be 
made between you and them.

If you know nothing about BMS but you know some others may 
do, please pass on the message.

Come and Join the party !!

-------------------------------------------------------------
K.F CHOW                      email : ab0kfc@uk.ac.bath.sl1
School of Architecture &              ab0kfc@uk.ac.bath.gdt
Building Engineering,
Bath University, UK
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From: ansari@columbia.rutgers.edu (Ahmad Chekeib Ansari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Najib and the end of communism
Keywords: AFG
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:00:29 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


News from the French radio (Radio France International, RFI)

Najibullah the head of the communist regime resigned yesterday, and he
was trying to escape last night; He has been captured and arrested by
the Afghan military which joined the Mojahedeen. Benon Savon the UN
envoy has arrived yesterday in Kabul. The head of the Afghan KGB
(khad) Yaqoobi commited suicide yesterday. 

The report about Najib's arrestation is not confirmed yet.

Let's hope and pray to khodawand for a better future in our country.

Chekeib
From: WALID@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Walid Majid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: News update 3
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:25:28 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

A-Salam-O-Eleikum,

Were there News update 1 and 2 also (how about 4)?  It seems like only
News update 3 got here to my site.  Can someone please send me 1 and 2.

I just heard on CNN that Kabul is still in the hands of the Communists.
However, the report mentioned that the Mujahedins are closing in fast.

Lets post more news as you hear them.

Walid
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 10:39:46 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject:    testing

this is a test
please ignore....

swh
From: WALID@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Walid Majid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Najib and the end of communism
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:39:53 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Salam bar hama,

I just heard on CNN that Najib has surrendered his presidency and that
a committee of 15, including Comm. Ahmad Shah Massood has taken control
of the government.  CNN also mentioned that the whereabouts of Najib is
not known, that he's either in hiding or under arrest.

Here in the Bay area there are all sorts of rumors about the situation
in Afghanistan.  Last night people were saying that Najib and 40 or so
of his friends have left for India.  According to these rumors the UN
envoy Benon Savan (is this the correct name?) was with them.

Others say that Kabul is taken by the forces of Ahmad Shah Massood, and
that Paghman is captured by Hekmatyar's forces.

Any truth to these rumors?  Please share your thoughts.  This could be
a wonderful day for our homeland.  Let's pray that the dark days of
our people have passed by, and that a bright future is upon us.

Long Live Afghanistan.

Ba Ehteram,

Walid

P.S. Should we collect a list of ten punishments for Najib the pig.
I sure hope that the Mujahiddin have cought him alive.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 10:19:45 EDT
From: <OMARS@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: News Flash

                       **************************
                      *                          *
                     *         NEWS FLASH         *
                      *                          *
                       **************************

Received and edited by Omar Samad on 4/14/92:

The following two news items were just received from Reuters and Agence
France Presse news agencies:


1-  The forces of commander Ahmad Shah Massoud have started to advance
    towards Kabul. The two strategic towns of Jabolsaraj and Charikar fell
    into the hands of Massoud's forces yesterday and the Afghan Air Force's
    main air base at Bagram is now surrounded by the Mujahedeen. All three
    locations are closely situated to each other and are located 60 Km (about
    40 miles) North of Kabul. This mujahedeen offensive comes at a time when
    U.N. envoy Benon Sevan is shuttling between Islamabad, Kabul and Tehran
    to finalize the latest proposals dealing with the establishment of a
    temporary 15-member council which is expected to take power when Najib
    is said to relinquish all powers by the end of April. Ahmad Shah Massoud,
    also known as the "Lion of Panjshir," is a legendary Mujahed commander
    from the region of Panjshir in Northeaster Afghanistan, who is famous
    for his military and administrative skills, and for his resilience and
    resistance to almost a dozen major Soviet offensives against his forces
    between 1978 and 1989. Massoud is currently a member of Afghanistan's
    Coucil of Commanders and has control over one third of Afghanistan's
    territory, mainly in the Tadjik populated areas of the country.


2-  In a meeting held in Kabul yesterday, Najib, the leader of Kabul's
    Marxist regime asked the military officer corps to cooperate with
    the future leadership council which is expected to take power once
    he (Najib) relinquishes all powers some time in the next few weeks.
    Najib made this plea as a precautionary measure to discourage any
    attempts by radical elements within the army and air force who may be
    planning a coup d'etat to subvert the UN peace plan.

                         *** end of NEWS FLASH ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: allenmk@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Allen Melinda Kay)
Subject: International Circle
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:35:58 GMT

To all Lebanese living in or near Boulder, Colorado:

If you are interested in meeting other internationals, or have not had much of
an opportunity to develop friendships with Americans, then you may be
interested in "International Circle," a group which meets every Friday evening
in Boulder.  We start off talking one-on-one, getting to know each other and
giving those who need it an opportunity to practice their English.  Then we
have dinner together, and finally have a presentation or Bible Study of some
sort--you do not have to stay for this part of the evening if you do not want
to.  

This is a really fun group, filling with welcoming and friendly people, and we
would love to see some new faces.

If you would like more information about the International Circle, please
contact me at the e-mail address below.

Melinda K. Allen
-- 
Melinda K. Allen                  The LORD is close to the brokenhearted 
allenmk@ucsu.colorado.edu       and saves those who are crushed in spirit.   
allenmk@tramp.colorado.edu			               Psalm 34:18
From: saouma@inglis.Colorado.EDU (SAOUMA VICTOR E)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Racism on scl (was Re: The racist Mr. Mourad)
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:53:12 GMT
Reply-To: saouma@inglis.Colorado.EDU (SAOUMA VICTOR E)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder


>The issue is simply that when and if people write racist slurs about
>any ethnic or religious group, they should, and hopefully will, be
>roundly trounced, and deservedly so.  


>Youssef Fawaz

Youssef:

I was about to reply to your article, and correct a number of assumptions
you made regaring my intentions and opinions.

That is until I came across this last paragraph, and concluded that 
there was no point in discussing with someone who tries to intimidate others.

Victor

P.S.: Your reply would have easily scored a 4 on my top ten list! 
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