From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: This Group Should Be Killed & John Arezzi
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 21:10:03 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper) writes:

> Speaking of exposing the business, I have to make this comment.  You people
> that write to this newsgroup think you are all "insiders" to the business.
> You ain't Jack SHIT!  Just because you know a few keywords and such does not
> make you an insider.  If you guys had ANY respect for this business which you
> all say you love, this entire newsgroup would be in a mailing-list format,
> NOT a public group.  I cannot count the times that a mark has "discovered"
> this group, posted a simple mark question, and been flamed for being
> ignorant.  That person then just sits in the back and reads for a month or
> so, realizes what wrestling is all about, and boom...there is one less mark
> that will come out to the house shows and help pay the paycheque of the boys.
 
Whoa, Steve. Hold on for a second. None of the so-called "Net gods" has EVER 
claimed to having any major inside knowledge of what goes on in wrestling./ 
Everything that I post about what MAY happen is just speculation. And the 
info that gets posted here is reported FROM THE SHEETS, which marks can get 
a hold of, just as easily as one with a VAX/Unix/UUCP account can access 
this newsgroup
 
As for smart fans not going to house shows, what does one have to do with 
the other? I'm no mark, but I still go see house shows whenever I have the 
time and the money. Why? Because it's entertaining to a degree. You're right 
-- after discovering this group, there is always going to be one less mark 
at the house shows. That mark is replaced with someone who knows a little 
bit more about the business than he did before.
 
> Now, realize that since New York got TV, all the independents have had a
> rough time.  Yes, New York really ruined a lot of things for the indie's, but
> it is groups such as this that have ruined the believability of pro
> wrestling.  It is so sad to see an industry go down the shit chute.
 
The industry was going "down the shit chute" LOOONG before r.s.p-w was first 
newgrouped, and I doubt that without this group, I'd honestly think Papa 
Shango was REALLY a voodoo priest...
 
> One other thing...be advised that what you write here DOES go all over the
> place.  As an example, everything written about Portland, good or bad, is
> read by Sandy and the boys.  The match reports are considered good input.
> All the Whiff stuff (the interesting stuff, not the stupid bullshit gossip)
> is read by the boys in the locker room, along with middle management (Garea,
> Strongbow etc).
 
And how can YOU be so sure? Do YOU have some inside knowledge of what goes 
on? How many times has this newsgroup been mentioned outside the confines of 
the Usenet community, Steve? None. John Arezzi hasn't said anything about 
this group, even though he's got Charlie Gavinelli helping him out every so 
often. Herb Kunze and Otto Heuer are never credited as wrestling experts in 
the sheets. See my point?
 
> So on that note, I would really like to put it to the people "in charge" so
> to speak, to turn this group into a MARK group, and any of you that think you
> are insiders, keep it to an E-mail mailing list.    I don't know much about
> the computer end of this request, but just to see this Expose' disappear
> would be great.
 
I don't think that's possible for one simple reason: You are in the minority 
here. I doubt that more than five other people will post agreeing with you. 
And even if they did, not one person is going to go out of their way to 
markify this newsgroup.
 
> Ya know, I passed on a bunch of interesting posts to someone that has been in
> the business for many years, and that person said to me, "Marks can get this
> shit anytime?"  That's my feeling too.  It's not right.  Change it.  For the
> good of this business that you people all say you love, change it.
 
Again, like I said, marks can also get a hold of The Torch and The Observer. 
In fact, the way I became a non-mark was through a combination of The 
National (marks could've found it on any newsstand) and Arezzi's Pro 
Wrestling Spotlight (marks in my area could've flipped through their AM dial 
until they found WGBB, then WEVD.)
 
In conclusion, posting insider information to this newsgroup is not going to 
damage marks. If anything, it will enlighten them. If any marks out there 
can go from being die-hard Hulkamaniacs (like I was) to appreciating 
workrate more than bulk, then hooray for people like Liger, BBM, the 
Steiners, and all the other wrestlers who give more than Hogan's 55% when 
they do their job!
 
--Don

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