HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jonnyk@mystix.cs.uoregon.edu (Jonathan Dennis Kirshbaum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Phil question
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:53:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Aug26.085322.27116
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

In article <134419@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> mcinnis@lll-crg.llnl.gov ( James McInnis) writes:
>pstevens@Metaphor.COM (Paul Stevens) asks:
>
>>telling me about a band that Phil had around '75 with the name, "Too
>>Loose to Truck" (sp?).  I think they played a few gigs in the Bay Area
>>at that was it.  Can anyone confirm this?  Who else was in that band?
>                                            ^^^^^^^^
>
>  Terry Haggerty, lead guitarist from the Sons of Champlain, was the
>guitar player in "Too Loose to Truck". The band's name is a goof on
>the artist Toulouse-Lautrec.

My brother tells me that this was used in a Freak Brothers comic, one
of the Idiots Abroad, where Fat Freddy sez: "I might not be Toulouse
Latrec, but I'm definitely not too loose to truck (sic)", while
being chased by a terrorist through Paris...

Jon
From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: test
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:39:11 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

just a test
sorry
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: Dennis McNally, 8/27/72
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:34:32 GMT

David Gans writes (re: 8/27/72 tapes):

|This is a "new" 2-track master recorded by the guys who were making a movie
|of that gig.  Not a perfect tape, but cleaner than the ones that were in
|circulation before I found this one.

Maybe it's complete? Seems like none of the tapes of this show have the last
couple of songs on them, missing Casey Jones and Saturday Night.

-Jeff Lester

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re:  Deadheads
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:44:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.202047.10196@seas.smu.edu>,
quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
du> brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:

>Give credit where credit is due- Abbey Hoffman (R.I.P<R.I.P.> coined this
>phrase and it was still the '80s when he said it. I believe his phrase
>was "under 30", but that was nearly 10 years ago.
>
>
I agree with many of the above statements (that I took out to save
time) about the '60s, violence, etc. EXCEPT this:  I know that
many of you may not have been yet born, but I believe that
Hoffman said, in the range of 1968 or so
"don't trust anyone OVER thirty."
lara
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Subject: best tapes - tdk or maxell
Reply-To: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 13:28:45 GMT

It seems that a lot of tapers are in the Maxell camp when it
comes to tape-of-choice, and Maxell is generally cheaper to
buy than TDK (for the same type of tape), but isn't it true that
the tapes used at the soundboard are in fact TDK tapes?

Just curious why there hasn't been a mass exodus to the TDK camp,
if the soundboard does indeed use TDK tapes...  do they know
something no one else does?

Ihor	iws@sgfb.ssd.ray.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tsl@eng.umd.edu (Tom Livingston)
Subject: Re: You'll Know It When It Comes
Summary:  Welcome Home...
Organization: Institute for Systems Research, UofM
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:48:52 GMT

[Steve Harris talks about the music vs. the spirituality, and how,
to him, they're not 'just a rock-n-roll band']
[But there's way too much good stuff to quote]

	All I can say is, YES.

	Certainly, there are many ways to look at this.  If you look up
at the band, stare at the band, and dance to all the great rock-n-roll
tunes -- and that's what you get out of it -- that's great -- that's what
they're there for.

	But, for a huge number of us, there's more.  It's nothing that
you can exactly pin down... certainly not "Hey you know that jam they do
between the first and second verses of birdsong?  Man, that's plain
spiritual.  That's why".  It's something broader than that.  I see
a couple of things:

	* It's not just the band:  When I go to a show, I'm not just looking
to see the band.  When I show up in the lot I really do feel like I've
come home.  For all the good, all the bad (certainly you don't like all
your neighbors!), but I'm home.  I get out, people smile at me.  It's rare
that people smile at each other on the streets of DC.  I wander around and
could run into any of the dozens and dozens of people I know from
around the world that are probably there.  I meet them, meet other people
I've never seen before and may never see again.  We laugh, have a good time.
Sure, there are beligerant drunks and people who are so fucked up they
don't even know their own name -- and that's sad.  The good comes with the
bad, but they're all family.

	* It's not just the music:  You go in and dance or sit with all
these same people.  The music starts, and we all know the words.  It
feels like an honest-to-god community, where we're all really accepted for
what we are.  That's really something, as alot of us get the looks of
"Are you a criminal or just a idiot?" everywhere else (or only sometimes),
but here, we're all together.  I'd also be a fool to say that
psychedelics don't play a factor -- good, bad I can't say -- but it's
true.  I wonder if there might be a great deal less mysticism in all our
minds about the Dead if there were never any.  I guess we'll never know.

	* It _is_ the music:  After having said all of that, the music
is a (the?) key factor for me.  This one is harder to explain, and Steve H
did a better job than I would.  There's a feeling in a show that can take
me away...  On the crest of a Terrapin, or whetever, I'm not worrying
about whether or not my car needs to be fixed, or I can't stand my
job.  I'm in a higher place with the crowd and the music, and I just
love it.

	Welcome Home truly says it for me...  I nearly cried once when 
someone said that to me.  For all the good and bad, I'm home.

<Sigh.  Good Luck Jerry...>

Tom Livingston					tsl@src.umd.edu


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Dan Benson <dbenson@us.oracle.com>
Subject: Re: Music, not Religion..
Reply-To: dbenson@us.oracle.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:45:02 GMT


In article <1992Aug31.151538.24794@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu writes:
|| >   ....and what is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good? Need we ask
|| >   anyone to tell us these things?
|| 
|| HEY, WHAT'S THIS ROBERT PIRSIG BAGGAGE DOING HERE? SHEESH....
|| 
|| (-; (-; (-;
|
|  Busted! Before I stick my foot in my keyboard again, all I'm *trying*
|  to say is that I don't like stereotypes. If you want to assume that all
|  people who like the GD have a certain set of priorities, a certain
|  personality, a certain viewpoint, fine. Sooner or later you're due for 
|  an awakening. Hope it's not a rude one......

"There are two kinds of people, the ones that think there are two kinds of
 people and the ones that know better".  -Tom Robbins

:)
From: Tom_Jacobs@qms1.life.uiuc.edu (Tom Jacobs)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Personal to Jeff Burchell
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:02:23 GMT
Reply-To: Tom_Jacobs@qms1.life.uiuc.edu
Organization: The Internet

Personal to Jeff Burchell

I just read on the net that you have an excellent 5/2/70 tape.  I am a branch
leader on the (no longer very) recent 5/2/70 tree and have been sent a
worthless (i.e., unrecorded) tape by the tree administrator.  He no longer
responds to my email.  My ten leaves deserve to wait no longer.  Could you
contact me about possibly supplying a substitute for this dud tape, so we can
finish this damned tree?  I, and my patient leaves (sorry guys), would be most
*grateful*.

Tom
tom_jacobs@qms1.life.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Glenn Snyder-National RA Installation Supervisor <SNYDER@opsusa.decnet.siemens.com>
Subject: stealin'
Reply-To: SNYDER@opsusa.decnet.siemens.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:47:20 GMT

hey now,

Can anybody tell me which dates I can find the boys doing "Stealin'". If so 
I'd love to get a copy. I have a few to trade or blanks.

Also, where are the central Zoo-Jersey heads? Let's get in touch.

Crippled but free!
Glenn
From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:  Deadheads
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:53:12 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <geoff.61@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com>, geoff@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lock
heed.com (Geoff Wells) writes:
>In article <1992Aug26.003715.21885@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Steve -- The Other One
 <sjeck@isi.com> writes:
>>Should we bring back the discussion of the movie, WILD IN THE STREETS?
>
>>Steve-TOO
>
>
You people actually had a discussion of "Wild in the Streets?" going on
here!?!?
Strange.
And this discussion of the "over 30" thread made me think exactly of this
flick...
Well, how did you get away with this discussion which lacks ODC???
Thinking that lots of 'heads and all the Dead are over 30, maybe we should get
into a new scene, like don't trust anyone born after _______(you fill in the
date!)   ;-) ;-)
Peace, Laura (in quite the weird mood today....)
From: glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Best Tapes
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:14:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <1992Aug26.234521.21559@vicorp.com> mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous) writes:
>hhs@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Sweetleaf) writes:
>
>> bsspeie@anagld.analytics.com (Brad S. Speierman) writes:
>>>
>>>Solution:  Buy a DAT and scrap the analogs!  Almost all of the tapes
>>>on the market are high quality (of course $6-8 they should be!)
>>                                           ^^^^^
>>            This is the only reason I haven't bought a DAT deck yet.
>>      How can you DATheads afford to pay this much for blank tapes?!
>>      Is there any hope that the prices will come down in the future
>>      or will the tape companies indefinitely keep the prices artificially
>>      high?
>
>>          
>
>>-- 
>>************* Sweetleaf *************
>>********* hs@homxb.att.com ***************    
>Better yet, for the price and sound quality VHS fi-fi (or Beta hi-fi) simply
>can't be beat!
>At less than $5 per tape you get 6 hours worth. The sound is comparable to CD.
>Really. No hiss either. No messy NR systems.
>Only drawback is portability.

Well, it ain't necessarily so.  VCR Hi-Fi systems can suffer from a serious
audio problem from what is known as head switching.  To lay down the audio
(or video, for that matter) your VCR heads lay down a series of consecutive
tracks that run diagonally along the length of the tape.  Those tracks look
something like this:

		___________________
		\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
		-------------------

One tape head will read one track, the other head will then read the next
track, the first head then reads the next track and so on to the end of the
tape.  This works fine and sounds good almost all the time for tapes played
back on the same machine they were recorded on.

However, when you play a tape recorded on another machine, the tolerances for
proper alignment are difficult to maintain, and 'head switching noise' will
be noticed.  The symptom is a buzzing sound associated particularly when only
high frequency sounds are being reproduced without much accompanying mid or
bass range notes.  The lower registers will help mask the buzz, but it is 
still there.  The slower the tape speed (EP, for instance) the more likely 
you'll be to introduce this problem, but I've heard it on many tapes at the
SP speed also.

It drives me crazy, frankly, and is the reason I find VCRs to be an 
unacceptable archive media.  (Gee, we haven't even spoken of the stability
of video tape, either, but at SP mode, expect your tape to last maybe 5,
6 years max.)

And while I appreciate the avidness of DAT and non-dolby B/C users, count me
as an avid supporter of Dolby C, which I have used religiously on well
maintained decks, and have had not one of the problems that others have 
described.  I've done many a blind test for friends who are pro-dat or anti-
dolby with a metal dolby-C encoded tape and the CD it was made from, and
not one person has been able to tell the difference.

George Lambert
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tindall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mike Tindall)
Subject: Re: Lazy Lightning
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:09:59 GMT

  Now we're getting somewhere Lara!  The medical scene here can
be primitive at times.  I'm sorry you had such a bad experience
with Gillette Obstatricians.  Of course we agree on Native American
Rights- The whole deal is you don't have to play by the Government's
rules.  Play their game- always loose!  It's gonna be an early winter
up here- Elk 'll be down early.  We play our cards right- we're gonna
have plenty to eat this winter.
  I have some Vietnam Vet buddies that are still pissed about getting
fucked over 25 years ago-  The goddamn Government fucks everybody over.
I refuse to participate in the collective psychosis.  I don't pay taxes
'cause I make less than $5200/yr.  Touring with the Dead alows me to
do that without freezing or starving to death- strength in #'s- the ol'
tribal thang :-)  Fair warning, (and this is a fact of my experience)
you can't win a Civil Rights case in a Reagan-Bush appointed Federal
Court in 1992.  Believe it or not, (ODC) :-) the ol' "Ain't got nuthin'
to do with him bein' a nigger yer honor- I just didn't like the son
of a bitch" defense holds water now days.  So there are no Civil Rights
in 1992 US of A.
  And that's why I'm not in graduate school or working in one of these
Wyoming Vetrenary Clinics they pass off as hospitals here...  Besides,
why should I buy a textbook and pay some asshole to tell me what the
textbook says, when I can take the book with me, go see the Grateful
Dead, and read the motherf*cker myself?  Currently wading through one
of Tindall's graduate level texts on CNS neurophysiology, I am.
  Love you sister- and I knew you didn't hate Wyoming just because it
didn't have very many people.

If I offended anyone using the "N" word, I've been called the "N" word
when I was living in "quarters" down south by a black woman who thought
I was just one of the guys.  It was a literary device to effect a 
communication of meaning which is anti-racist.
  Speaking of racism- ever notice we never get any posts from byu.edu?

                         eagle
                    rebel@outlaw.uwyo.edu
From: mwsn_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matthew Weasner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Guns
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:33:05 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Aug29.171138.1@vax1.umkc.edu> rtiger@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>
>
>Can someone send me the lyrics to "Happiness is a Warm Gun" by the Grateful
>Dead?

call me a peon if I'm wrong, but I always thought this was a Beatles song.
Off the white album? Just a thought.

matt.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis)
Subject: Flame extinguishers
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:55:10 GMT

Is it possible to flame flamers, or do they even read what's on
the screen in front of them.  It's amazing to me that people can attack
others with such a personal vengeance never having met that person.  We 
are all just people making a poor attempt to communicate with each other
using a rather impersonal device.  That doesn't mean you have to abuse
the rest of us by forcing us to view subject line after subject line 
labelled with your hatred or disagreement.  It would be a nice change of
pace if a person could read news and actually get something that
resembled just that.  Open up your minds and spread some of the good
experiences you've had, move on to constructive, yet positive 
deliberation with your brother.  And you might even want to go find
that tape of yours with UNBROKEN CHAIN and give it a good listening to!

Peace throughout your world

Just another Box of Rain - Leave it if you dare!
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Behavior at Shows / on the Net
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:42:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisql.3545
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Aug26.183103.15184@sco.com> steveha@sco.COM (Steve Harris) writes:
>I guess by now, some of you have seen a pattern.  

	yeah.  You want everyone to behave the way you think they should.

	:-) :-) sort of I guess...

	How do we draw the line between tolerance and control?  If 
	don't smoke or post flames is OK, then how about don't dance
	'cause you bump into me all the time?  Don't wear brightly colored
	clothes 'cause it bothers my eyes?  Don't take deep breaths 'cause
	you use up too much oxygen?

>--Steve Harris (the REAL ONE)

	Are you the same Steve Harris that's on Zappa's first album?  Did 
I meet you at Hartford in '74 ?
								W.rat
From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: ROOKIE QUESTION
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:49:21 GMT
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA

In article <1992Sep2.023648.26284@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia) writes:
>>
>IMHO it works kind of like a pointer, or preamble: Indulgent, Mostly Horseshit
>Opinion <to follow....>.
>
Speak for yourself Bruce:-) 

 -)-)...(-(  <-But what the hell is this????????????????????????????
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/ | \<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: nsax.uoregon (Norma Sax)
Subject: Life after no field trip
Organization: university of oregon
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 19:38:21 GMT

boy, i was bummed this weekend, feeling the loss of the field trip. of
course, my logical, rational self told me all i was missing was a good
time, when there were lots of people who had put in much money, time and
energy into this effort who deserved my sympathy a lot more. not to 
mention poor, sick jerry. geez, i didn't even have to buy a ticket. i
felt better knowing i was being a jerk for feeling sorry for myself.

so i took myself out to the fair site on sunday and heard a few stories
about people who showed up from connecticut and belgium 
looking for the dead show. and while i was there, some lady pulled
up in a cab. now that may not mean much to you, but i've been involved
with the oregon country fair for sixteen years and have never seen a
taxi there before. another first for us fairies!! 

anyway, this lady had
just gotten off a plane and had come to catch the last couple of hours
(this was sunday at 4 p.m.) of the dead show. she apparently didn't
get a clue there was no show when she entered the property and there
were not 40,000 people around. in fact there were only 4 of us on site at the
time , butundaunted this lady and her cab driver looked for the show anyway.  

can you
imagine having that much money - taking a plane from who knows where to catch
an hour or two of a show, then taking a taxi from the airport to the show which
wasn't happening in the first place. and if she has so much money, how come
she's so out of touch. (is that a non sequiter or a logical progression?) maybe
she was sunning herself on the rivieria and just hadn't gotten the word.

anyway, i thought you would appreciate this story. and i'm glad it happened
because it gave me something to post. now that the field trip is gone, i have
nothing to write about to you all.

but i'll keep on reading.

norma sax
From: v079kfw5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert B Call)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: 6/6/92 looking for a copy of buffalo
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:08:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I was wondering if anyone has a copy of the buffalo show.
It was my and my girlfriend's first show and it would be 
oh so nice to have a copy.
please e-mail me if you have one.
Thanks in advance.
      -Rob "the Nomad"


"there's nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile" -Garcia/Hunter
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Scott Hammer <SCOTH@wmvm1.cc.wm.edu>
Subject: Bruce Sighting
Reply-To: SCOTH@wmvm1.cc.wm.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:21:08 GMT

At the Bonnie Raitt/Lyle Lovett show at the State Fairgrounds in Richmond,
Va. on 9/2, Bonnie brought Bruce out for the first two encores.  The first
was "I Can't Make You Love Me," from Raitt's _Luck of the Draw_, and Bruce
reprised the piano part he plays on the recording.  Subsequently, Raitt
brought out Lyle Lovett to share the vocals on a blues stomp "Send a Boy
to Do a Big Man's Job," with Hornsby contributing his trademark boogie-
woggie licks.

Now You Know.

ODC: Hornsby used to play with Da Boyz, and Bonnie Raitt has opened for them.

-Scott "Love You Like a Man" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
From: max@hitl.washington.edu (Max Minkoff)
Subject: Re: Deadicated II - suggestions
Organization: HIT-men
	<1992Aug19.190944.2427@nic.umass.edu>
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:50:55 GMT


In article <1992Aug19.190944.2427@nic.umass.edu> s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene) writes:

   In article <1992Aug19.145644.11557@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com writes:
   >
   >	Deadicated II - as I would have it:
   >
   >		Phish: Scarlet Begonias
		   ^^^^^

   Ack!  no no no no no no no no no no no


Why not?  My vote, even though people seem to want a bluegrassy band
to do it, would be for Phish to cover Cumberland.  Whenever I hear
Possum, I can hardly get Cumberland out of my head!!

My $.02...

Max
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: Tour dates, confirmed and RUMORED
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:52:53 GMT

Robert McMullen writes:

|In message <1992Aug24.202528.7164@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, Jeff Lester writes:
|
[>lots of tour dates deleted.........]
|> December 21,22,23  (Winter Solstice) Oakland Coliseum Arena
|> December 27,28,30,31 Oakland Coliseum Arena
|  ^^^^^^^^          ^^
|Surprised no one caught this yet...even if these are RUMORS...    ;-]
|Jerry's a-gonna be a busy man the night of 12/31/92!  (Hey, I though
|he was supposed to take it *easy*)
|
|> ... 
|> 
|> Jerry Garcia Band:
|> Novemeber East Coast
|> December ??,31  Kaiser Auditorium
|  ^^^^^^^^    ^^
|Is it really feasible that he'd do an early set @ the Kaiser and take
|the stage around 10:30 with the Boys as usual on NY eve? 

Well actually what it is (was), is two different rumours. One rumour (now
probably very unlikely) from the spring was that JGB was to be doing a NYE
run instead of the Dead. There was an additional rumour added that maybe
the NYE show would turn out to be a Dead stealth show or something. The
more recent NYE rumour is NYE as in years past, a 4-day run at Oakland
Coliseum by the Dead.

If I were to rate the likelyhood of the rumours I posted (based merely on my
own personal opinions) on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being most likely) I would
say:

JGB November East: 0.5
Dead Solstice or other Nov/Dec bay area: 4
Dead Denver/Tempe: 4
JGB NYE: 1
Dead NYE: 8

In other words, I don't think we'll see the JGB by the end of the year. If
we do see the Dead, it will probably be only a NYE run, but with a possibility
of some December shows beforehand (remember '86?).

-Jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead