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From: dave@snitor.UUCP (Dave Till)
Subject: Re: If not Alfredo, who?
Organization: Roberto Alomar Appreciation Appreciation Appreciation Society
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:57:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.183832.19466@jts.com> geoff@jts.com (Geoff Vona) writes:
>(Its fun calling guys only a couple of years younger than you "kids"!)

It's depressing to realize that baseball players your age are "old".
(I am a couple of months younger than Joe Carter, BTW.)

>BTW, who else out there thinks that Derek Bell looks like a younger, thinner
>Cliff Johnson?

My God.  You're right.  Poor Derek.

By the way:  I apologize to all Blue Jay fans on the net for ruining the
team's perfect record.  As I write this, the club is 9-1.  Guess which
game I went to?  :-(
-- 
--Dave Till, Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems, Sietec Open Systems Division,
2235 Sheppard Ave. E. #1800, Willowdale, Ont. (dave@sni.CA or dave@snitor.uucp)
Currently #7 on the rec.sport.baseball "Dave" chart.
From: mn1s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Scott Neiberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Biased Announcers
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:01:04 GMT
	<farenebt.703345824@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>
Distribution: na
Organization: Doctoral student, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Have to agree with Big Bri, Scully is the best out there hands down. 
next comes Ernie (How I miss him) Harwell, then Lanny frattere, voice of
the Pirates.  Jack Buck is the man I want least to listen to, especially
in a big game.  Just thought I'd throw out MHO.

Michael neiberg

Carnegie mellon
From: andrew@rentec.com (Andrew Mullhaupt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Interleague-play, anyone??
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:49:04 GMT
Organization: Renaissance Technologies Corp., Setauket, NY.

In article <92097.151845ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>In the latest Sports Illustrated baseball issue, there is an interesting
>article on ways to improve the game. One of the suggestions was interleague
>play. IMHO, it may not be a bad idea. 
.
.
.
>I would just like to throw this idea out to everyone. Is it a good idea or a
>bad one?

It's a Bad idea. We need to push the DH rule back in the bottle as it is,
and the thought of playing major league baseball in that Minnesota Baggie
makes me shudder. Luckily, the twins play in the minor league.

Later,
Andrew Mullhaupt
From: cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Galaraga - Gone (5-6wks)
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:48:08 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

SportsLine:

Andres Galaraga out for five to six weeks with a broken bone in the
Right hand.

Yesterday Oquendo goes down for 5 to 6 weeks for a partially separated
right shoulder.  4 weeks of it is time before throwing.

Louisville, Can you rise to  the occasion and keep the Cards afloat?

Time will tell.  I may be better to lose players now than in the heat of
a race at the end of the season.

Dan
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt M. Bose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Least Valuable Players (career), or Great Clubhouse Influences
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:00:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.3+xjv2f
Organization: University of New Mexico

In article <1992Apr12.174151.20417@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca ( ) writes:
>In <3zvj1yl@lynx.unm.edu> kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt M. Bose) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Apr12.092123.13711@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca ( ) writes:
>>>In <1992Apr12.033648.7561@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
>>>
>>>>For *THAT* matter, what are you talking about?  The Blue Jays were BAD
>>>>when they had Alfredo Griffin.  In fact, very bad.  They got better when
>>>>they replaced him with Tony Fernandez.  The As won 3 straight pennants
>>>
>>>Blew Jays record in the Griffin years:
>>>
>>>79 - 53-109
>>>80 - 67-95
>>>81 - 37-69
>>>82 - 78-84
>>>83 - 89-73
>>>84 - 89-73
>>>
>>>No they "get better" with griffin in the lineup - when fernandez came
>>>they were already good...
>>>
>>Yep.  They were rotten when they put him in.  They were good when they booted 
>>him.  Therefore they must had gotten better during that time.  Did he get 
>>better???? No??? Gee, I suppose that they must have gotten better because of
>>the other people on the team.  Bell and Barfield and Moseby all came up. They
>
>Who??? I don't think TO will be going out to reacquire any of mssrs. Bell
>Barfield or Moseby.
>
None of them are old and decrepit enough. :) 

And none of them play shortstop.

(Though they'd be better than Fetty.)
>
>>Yeah, so don't go thinking that the Jays are great just because they haven't
>>lost yet.  Have they even played Fetty yet???
>
>why should they?  TO has the incomparable manny lee at short. ;-)
>
Take away the smiley face and you get my point exactly.  Fetty isn't even good
enough to beat out Manny "Light Average" Lee at the position!!!  For heaven's
sake, if you MUST have Fetty on your team for his sparkling personality, for
whatever reason you can fathom, then keep him in the clubhouse.  Don't give
him a uniform.  It would just encourage him.

BTW, next time I see Mickey Hatcher and Brian Holton, I'll ask them if Fetty
was the "straw that stirred the drink" for the '88 Dodgers.  Or don't you think
**They** would know?????

>>-- 
>>| KWACK!                  "Damn tree-hugging-chin-spinach-lettuce-eaters
>>| Kbos@carina.unm.edu       already have their blue dots; what the hell
>>| Kurt M. Bose UNM           do they want NOW!?!?!?!?"
>>| Albuquerque, New Mexico                        -The Grand Platypus
>
>
>-- 
>roger l. maynard                              
>91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca             
>Sudbury Ont.                                
>Canada                                     


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| KWACK!                  "Damn tree-hugging-chin-spinach-lettuce-eaters
| Kbos@carina.unm.edu       already have their blue dots; what the hell
| Kurt M. Bose UNM           do they want NOW!?!?!?!?"
| Albuquerque, New Mexico                        -The Grand Platypus
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From: todd@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Todd Pedlar)
Subject: Re: Trivia: What to the numbers mean...?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:05:05 GMT

In article <ku74r1INN4p3@aludra.usc.edu> winstonc@aludra.usc.edu (|) writes:
>In article <92099.185021GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu> GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>Here's a bit of trivia from our college paper...
>>
>>Give the significance of the number and the player
>>who holds the record.
>>
>>1) .424      Highest BA maybe
>
>Possibly

I think Honus Wagner... ?

>>3) 56        \
>>4) 57        /  Is one of these 50's, Hershisers inning streak
>
>Hershiser pitched 59 consecutive scorelss innings, I think.

I'm quite sure the 56 is Joe Dimaggio's hitting streak and I think the
57 is Hershiser's record...

>
>>10) 7
>
>Longest World Series played (in games) ?  :-)
>
Somebody's most hits in a game?


tkp

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Graduate Student                 !      "Damn it, Jim, I'm a physicist,
Nuclear Physics                  !
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From: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (DAVID BONAR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Expos
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:49:36 GMT
Reply-To: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
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In article <1992Apr10.131831.21491@gvl.unisys.com>, edd@gvlf2.gvl.unisys.com (Ed Dougherty) writes...
>In article <1992Apr10.124948.5618@cs.tulane.edu> eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Apr10.035849.16471@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca>, cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes...
>>>Does anyone have any info on this Fletcher guy the Expos have as catcher?
>>>He had a pretty amazing game today, so I'm hoping he's a young prospect
>>>unlike the other 2 catchers they have (not that I mind Carter and the other 
>>>guy).
>>
>>	Fletcher is somewhat young (birthdate 10/3/66).  He isn't really
>>a good hitting prospect (.284/.334 BA/OBA in AAA last year) but he doesn't
>>look to bad when you compare him to the others in the league.
>>
>If this is the Fletcher from the Phillies, I thought he had a great
>arm and a bright future, I was sorry to see him go.

	Yes, its Darrin Fletcher from the Phillies (and earlier from LA).
I carefully didn't mention his defensive ability since I don't know any way
to really rate that.  He is supposed to be good defensively (good arm and
such stuff).  

Dave
__________
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eebonar@lsuvax.sncc.lsu.edu
Go Astro's  [motto: More Bang for the buck (but still a little short)]
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From: clmn@ellis.uchicago.edu (Bill Coleman)
Subject: Re: MATT YOUNG TOSSES NO-HITTER, LOSES 2-1
Reply-To: clmn@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Department of Economics
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:33:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.225716.17701@watcgl.waterloo.edu> cjwein@watcgl.waterloo.edu (Chris J. Wein) writes:

>
>I also believe that the no-hitter fails to qualify since you must also win 
>the game.  Andy Hawkins lost his no hitter because of this (he lost *4* to
>1 on some brutal errors) and he pitched it at home and thus pitched 9 
>innings.  Also note that Mark Gardner's `no hitter' over the Dodgers last
>year was not a no hitter since he gave up a hit in the tenth inning.
>

Wrong.  There's no need to win the game.  Andy Hawkin's no-hitter was thrown
at old Comiskey Park (I saw it) and, like Matt Young, he only threw eight
innings since there was no bottom of the ninth.

Had Boston tied the game and Young had given up another run without a hit in
the bottom of the tenth, it would have been scored as a no-hitter.


-- 
Bill Coleman
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From: puerta@mcs-next-10.stanford.edu (Angel Puerta)
Subject: How the Cardinals can  win it all
Reply-To: puerta@camis.stanford.edu
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:16:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.125822.1@creole> coop@creole writes:
> 
> And here I said Torre moved Zeile to stroke his own ego...Whitey who?!?
> 

There are only two things that the Cardinals must do to get back to the World  
Series:

(1) Fire Joe Torre
(2) Fire Dal Maxvill

Or, if you do (2) first, any intelligent person who replaces Maxvill will fire  
Torre on the spot.

This is a copy of the resume that Torre submitted when he applied for the  
Cardinals job:

Name: Joe Torre
Qualifications: Perennial loser, Maxvill's pal

Joe is true to form this year accounting directly for two losses (opening night  
vs. Mets, saturday vs. Cubs).

And for those who have forgotten about Whitey, he was the one who took over in  
Summer 1980, and 12 months later had the team with the best record in the  
division, a year later won it all, and went back twice to the Series  
afterwards, and could have probably done even better (and still would be the  
manager) if it hadn't been for Maxvill's incompetence.

What has Torre done so far? Don't give me crap about rebuilding or youth. It  
took Whitey a few months to get things rolling. And last year's 2nd place  
finish only says how bad the other teams were not how good the Cardinals were.

--
Angel Puerta
puerta@camis.stanford.edu
From: roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Baseball - The 'ME' SPORT (was Re: Bobby Bonilla)
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:16:35 GMT
 <4200274@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article <4200274@hpcc01.corp.hp.com>
 krattige@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kim Krattiger) writes:
>Well,  I agree with you! 

Welcome to USENET!  In the future, please clue us in as to *whom* you're
agreeing with.  There are hundreds of thousands of us out here.

> I think the whole sports thing is getting out of hand. 

I agree.  Basketball should be over a month earlier.

> Salaries are ridiculous, and I agree that something should be done to
>bring the sport back in line.

In line with what?  The movies?  Some stars get $10mil for 4 weeks'
work, if that.

Look, it's big entertainment business, and people are willing to pay.
I'm not sure I see why the owners should keep all the money.

>I know that once it goes to pay-per-view, which I think is getting 
closer, that's when I stop watching baseball.


I doubt it's getting much closer.  More-or-less-free TV has been BERY
BERY good to baseball over the last 40 years.

Roger
From: lotto@math.berkeley.edu (Ben Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Is there a Pirates mailing list?
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:29:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: lhasa.LOTTO.92Apr7142910
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: lhasa.berkeley.edu

A friend of mine would like to get on a Pirates mailing list if there
is such a thing.  Please e-mail me any info.  Thanks.
--
-B. A. Lotto
Department of Mathematics/University of California/Berkeley CA 94720
510-642-8196
lotto@math.berkeley.edu
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From: CAVGEOE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Interesting Trivia Questions
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:32:40 EDT

In article <1992Apr14.212558.23559@morrow.stanford.edu>
dannert@pangea.Stanford.EDU (David Dannert) writes:
 
>
>Ideally, the number of pitches a pitcher must throw for a complete
>game win would be 27. (or 24)
>Does anyone know what the actual record is?  For both 8 and 9 inning wins?
>
     (super-picky point)  Eight-inning complete games can't be *wins*.
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Eckersley NOT better than Fingers
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:26:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.221450.567@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Navarra) writes:
>
>	Um, if Eckersley started off as a relief pitcher he may very well
>not be in baseball today! He SUCKED (with a capital S) as a starting
>pitcher for most of those years.

<sigh> If only the Red Sox had a dozen pitchers who could suck like
that!  In his 12 year career as a starter, most of which was spent in
hitters parks, the Eck had only four seasons with an ERA over 4.  He
also had five years of an ERA under 3.50.

He was excellent from 1975 to 1979.  He was only slightly below
average from 1980 to 1984.  And he had two good seasons with the Cubs
before his poor 1986 campaign.

Remember that a 4.00 ERA in Fenway is comparable to a 3.50 ERA in
Oakland.  The Eck wasn't putting up bad numbers at all!

Cheers,
-Valentine
-- 
"Red Sox all the way in '92!"	tedward@cs.cornell.edu
From: littaum@nyssa.CS.ORST.EDU (Mike Littau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Kevin Brown = Cy Young?
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:49:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Dept. Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon.

In article <texdude.703219143@camelot> texdude@camelot.bradley.edu (Philip Allen) writes:
>2 wins, 2 complete games, 1 shutout.....
>only a handful (I'm not sure how many) of hits in 18 innings
>2 K/BB (not wonderful, but still good for Brown)
>
>Ok, the Cy Young is pretty unlikely, but Kevin's been doing pretty well.
>
>Any comments?
>

So far so good, but I'm more impressed by the offensive production they've
had, even when Franco's been out.
From: maj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mark "Beren" Jamison)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Questions about BA/OBA
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:17:11 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

Why is it that guys get hits more often in the AL than the NL??
There always seem to be lots of .300 hitters in the AL, but they seem
to be rare commodoties in the NL, what gives?? It also seems like 
players in the AL have a Higher OBA, so what is this difference?? 

AM I just imaginining things??
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From: bsagar@cue.bc.ca (Brian Sagar)
Subject: Re: numbers retired by Major League baseball teams
Organization: Computer Using Educators of B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:57:27 GMT

Ward Larkin (wlarkin@hounix.org) writes -

> This morning I learned that the Houston Astros have during
> their history retured the playing numbers for two of their
> players -- Don Wilson and Jim Umbricht.

> Jim Umbricht has to be the least accomplished Major League
> baseball player to have his number retired.  The man had
> a 9-5 lifetime win-loss record.

> Both men died while active players for the Astros, and the
> Astros retired their respective numbers out of commemoration.
> Although a very touching gesture by the Astros, I seem to
> recall the Don Wilson committed suicide.

Am I the only one disturbed by the final comments in this posting?

Even if I tried *Really* hard, I couldn't put that much ignorance
in so few words.

The open ended final comment concerning the
death of Don Wilson (whether suicide was the cause of death, I
am not sure and doesn't really matter) expresses an
attitude towards suicide that suggests that Don Wilson, because he
killed himself rather than dying of natural causes, was less
of a baseball player than others who have had numbers retired,
but, most importantly, less of a person.

My advice to Ward Larkin is this -
keep quiet and when I need an unlearned, uninformed comment
from an ignoramus, I will know where to call.

Brian Sagar
(bsagar@cue.bc.ca)
From: zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Overshadowed By Fate Huckabay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Baseball - The 'ME' SPORT (was Re: Bobby Bonilla)
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:11:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucdavis.12086
Organization: Bob Gajarsky Wallet Losing Society

>(Michael A. McEvilley) writes:
>Actually, the entire sport of baseball, not just the Mets, has gone from a 
>team oriented outlook, to a ME thing.  This point was brought out by Bob 
>Gibson and Tim McCarver during the opening METS broadcast from St Louis 
>Monday night.  

Uh....yeah.  "Players used to play for the team, and because they
loved the game - not for filthy lucre!"  Right.  And Bob Gibson and
Tim McCarver have demonstrated to me time and time again that I should
take their analysis about as seriously as I take Brian Stromblad's or
Al Feldstein's.

>is Canseco comparing himself to Wil Clark to justify his salary
>(a joke cause Canseco just doesnt compare)!!!

Ha.  Anyone expect me to let this go by?  Canseco will not hit for as
high a BA as Clark, but he compares fairly well, thank you.  And let's
remember the park that he's spent his entire career in.  Clark won't
make 500 HR - Canseco won't make a .280 liftime BA.  I imagine that
without park adjustment, their lifetime values will turn out pretty
similarly.  With park adjustment, I think the edge will go to Jose.
But not by much.

>Who in baseball today would reduce their salary for the better of the team (as 
>Magic and Isaiah did for their respective teams)???

I imagine a lot of the players would, if they made the money, in terms
of percentage of league revenues, that Magic and Isiah do.

But why a salary cap?



-- 
*    Gary Huckabay    * "They sent Brosius down."  "So Lansford has the job?" *
*   "A considerably   * "Yep.  And it looks like Bordick has won the 2B job." *
*  shorter fuse than  * "I guess I better make postseason plans now." "Good   *
*    Sherri Nichols." *  idea.  Call Puget Sound Airways." - GH & EG.         *
From: kwinkler@pbs.org (The Axe Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Planning our trip (Was Re: Oriole Park at Camden Yards
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:27:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: pbs.1992Apr7.142736.15759
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Apr5.040641.11733@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky) says:
> 
>>warrior@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Gary Carter Inc.) writes:
>>
>>>> It's perfect, it's located in the right place downtown, not out in some  
>> i'll preface this by saying that i am not averse to change, and that
>> i have never seen a game at either memorial or camden.
>>
>>i think the move was god awful.  memorial was a nice community area. 
>> i love the new york area, but i think that the orioles ripped the heart
>> and soul out of baltimore when moving the team to downtown 
>> baltimore, that city's equivalent of new york's south st. seaport., 
>> the inner harbour.
>>
>      Anyone know any good places to eat before the games when we go? (Monday
> May 18th and Tuesday May 19th)  I know the harbor is supposed to be nice and
> close, and I'm anxious to see the place.

Harborplace is probably the place to go.  In addition to an expansive food
hall, there are restaurants, including American Cafe, Brokke's, and 
Phillip's Seafood house.  A long walk takes you to places in Federal
Hill, where I would highly recommend Sisson's, a cajun place that brews
their own beer.  

A short drive east gets you to Little Italy, or if up north, head to Louie's
Bookstore Cafe on N. Charles Street near the Washington Monument.  Just
past Little Italy is Olde Obrycki's Crab House.  Best steamed crabs in 
the city, and definitely worth the drive.  It is on E. Pratt Street.

						----Ken Winkler
						    (kwinkler@pbs.org)

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* "It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood!" ---FR      *    Television    *
* "Get away from me with that spatula, Fred!" ---Mrs. FR *  worth watching  *
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From: zurawski@cbnewse.cb.att.com (lawrence.w.zurawski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Really bad, lame-o regulars on WS winners
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:05:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr14.002035.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu>, f67709317@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
> But have we considered that there may have been a *worse* player
> than Alfredo Griffin to play regularly on a World Series winner?

Ray Oyler batted .132 (or something like that) for the '68 Tigers.

Larry Zurawski
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From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: Expos! Expos! Expos!
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:27:30 GMT
Organization: Beechhurst Beguilers  

In <14APR199214401007@pavo.concordia.ca> p_emond@pavo.concordia.ca (Patrick (Robbie) Emond) writes:

> The team universally picked to finish dead last just SWEPT the 2 billion
> dollar a year Mets (or the Stinking Mets as we call them here) at Shea,
> beating Mr. Saberhagen (and showing the world why we traded Tim (closer 
> for the Marlins) Burke!) and company by near blowout scores!

Just want to note that only if you are referring to the mediots are you       
correct in saying that the Expos were universally picked last.  A lot of
people here, especially the analyst types, picked them much higher, and
a couple of us have vocally postulated that the Expos could win if they
play their younsters (Matt Stairs) and everything goes right.

Greg 


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