HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Chunderation
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:43:56 GMT
Organization: Sun, Moon, and Stars
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

The creature from the planet sybok writes:
+In article <ldksaaINNep4@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
+> (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
+>>Oooh, "Bird Seed"  I'm hurtin' from that one.  Yow!
+> 
+>>And perhaps with a little work you'll get to
+>>the point where you can feel good about yourself without having to pick on
+>>people like Scott & Mikey.    I'm rooting for you, honey :-)
+> 
+I believe you are mistaking me for that paper boy that tried to collect from
+your festering abode the other day. Tell me, have the toxic wate people sent
+you a meaasge telling you to clean your place of residence up yet?

Mikey,

Would you mind clarifying who you fired this drab little spitball at?

I see my address up in the attributions but I didn't write any of what
you included.

Maybe when you get home from hawking flowers by the side of the road
today, you can scrape together enough spare cash to stop by the clue
station and fill up.  I'd recommend the full serve island.  I wouldn't
want to see you mistakely use the pump on someone else, self serve.

drew
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
  What happens if a big asteroid hits Earth?  Judging from
  realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a 
  common laboratory frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad.
                                                 -- Dave Barry
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: alex@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Vrchoticky)
Subject: Re: Chunderation
Keywords: driving, porcelain, bus
Organization: Technical University Vienna, Dept. for Realtime Systems, AUSTRIA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:54:02 GMT

banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
>>banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>>>jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
>>>>banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>>>>>jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
[...]
>>>>>>>>>banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>>>>>>>>>>jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:

enough already! i realize that my boredom threshold must have been
on the same rope team as my tolerance for morons, but cut it out nonetheless:
one solid week of postings by two turtle-doves on pcp really is enough. 


andy, 
it was your (justified) complaint about the lack of real peeves and 
about the abundance of chatter in this group that started this thread. 
so why do you continue to go on about such exciting
peeve-worthy topics as the various `definitions' of slut, bitch, etc?

if they are intended as entertainment for the readers, they fall short of
just about any mark: it is said that some trilobites once actually found 
that kind of comment funny. but then, that's the alleged reason why the
species perished back in the paleozoic. 

so, given that it can't have been an actual insult, it can only have been 
a means intended to raise the hackles of your opponent. 
in this case, this means has failed. the sooner you realize that, 
the fewer boring articles the readers of this group have to wade through. 


jenny,
cut it out. if it is of any value to you, let me assure you that 
everyone who reads this group has realized that you found out which 
metaphorical button to push. 

nevertheless, i am getting tired of it. there *is* a lot of merit
in trying to keep this newsgroup drivel-free. the quality of the
applause you've been getting should be an indication that *something* 
is not quite right (and let me stress that i am not flaming any 
particular person here, i'm merely making a derogatory comment about
some postings some persons have produced). 
if you really want to edify andy (like hell you do!), take it to e-mail.
if you want to bore me to death, leave it in alt.peeves.


incidentally, if any readers actually *enjoy* reading this thread,
i'd be more than happy to set up a mailing list (hmmm, how about
andy-and-jenny@vmars.tuwien.ac.at?) where the leading actors in this
sad play can continue their exchange. requests to be added to the
list should go to my address.

-alex

-- 
Alexander Vrchoticky             alex@vmars.tuwien.ac.at
TU Vienna, CS/Real-Time Systems  +43/1/58801-8168
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Religion & Such
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:29:43 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Oct9.144315.16505@dg-rtp.dg.com>, cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.084548.7992@ac.dal.ca>, 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
> |> 
> |>I think it isn't religion that's laughable, but the way people turn and twist
> |>it to fit teir own agendas. If you mix in a bit of common sence, the basic 
> |>tenets of most relaigions are really pretty sound. An example is Christianity.
> 
> I like the way this is phrased, "an example is....".  What most people don't
> realize is that Christ only put forward *one* new idea in all of his 
> teachings (this is assuming, of course, that he ever existed at all -- there's
> almost no evidence outside of the Bible, and if you toss that out as 
> suspect, well....).  The new philosophy was "love your enemy".  All of the
> other philosophical points (life after death, don't kill anybody, love your
> neighbor, etc.) had been preached and practiced for thousands of years in 
> other parts of the world before he ever came along.

True. Christianity is notorious for "borrowing" from other religions. Celtic
goddess worship mutated into worship of the Virgin. Worship of the Mother
in maid, mother, and hag forms became worship of Father, Son, and Holy Ghost.

Peeve: There should've been copyright laws 2,000 odd years ago. THAT would
have out a stop to religious plagerism!

> 
> It was your friend and his, Paul the Apostle, who added all of these other
> nifty ideas such as the inferiority of women, "heathenism" of nonbelievers,
> sexual constraints, and so forth.  The guy was a real mysoginist and 
> homophobe, IMO.  Unfortunately, he's generally considered as the real founder
> of Christianity.  If it hadn't been for him, Christ would have probably been
> just another little-known philosopher in a small corner of the world.
> 

Rumor has it that he was a Xtian hater even when he converted, and he only
converted to undermine what Christ had originally taught.

> Now *this* brings up a scary thought.  Isn't religious fundamentalism the
> very epitome of the "I'm right and you're wrong" philosophy?  If so, that
> can only lead to one of two possible conclusions: 1) Religious fundamentalists
> are *right* (shudder), or 2) alt.peeves is a religion.

Halleluiah! I'll meet you at Our Lady of the Leather Go-Go boots for coffee
and self-flagellation this Sunday.

Later!
Mike "Who gets the cash from the collection plate?" 
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dennis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Thomas A. Dennis)
Subject: Re: Power Codgers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:59:23 GMT
Keywords: Surly Rent-a-Cops, Crossing Guards, drunk with power 

In <xcjp1kb@lynx.unm.edu> hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman) writes:

[a fine, fine peeve that concludes with:]

>Fuck 'em, I say. Any kid who doesn't have the smarts to cross the 
>street shouldn't be breathing my air, much less going to school with 
>my tax dollars.

Amen, bruddah!  Although I am not--NOT, I say--a Mengelesque eugenicist, I 
personally feel that many of society's problems would be instantly solved by 
allowing natural selection within our species to resume.
>-- 
>We've replaced the fine baby Jesus we normally use with Folgers crystals.
>Let's see if they notice the difference.
--

Tom Dennis                    |  I looked into the abyss,
dennis@alexia.uiuc.edu        |    and the abyss looked into me--
tadg0614@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu     |      and we both winked.
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: The Debates - A Summary
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:09:57 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Edinburgh University

Three Cheers for the Vice Squad:


M: Gentlemen, if something went wrong, you'd be President. What
   qualifies you for the post?

Q: Well, once when the President was away, I sneaked into the Situation Room.

S: Where am I?

G: I can do a great impression of Bill Clinton....



M: Ordinary americans are concerned about the economy. What would you do
   about it?

S: Who Am I?

G: We're gonna spend a lot of money on employing people and if you're
   rich enough, we'll even let you help pay for it.

Q: There you go again. You pulled a Clinton. Tax and Spend. Family
   Values. A President You Can Trust.


M: And now you can have some free debate.

S: Why are we here?

Q: Can I have his time?

G: I want equal time.

Q: He pulled a Clinton! He pulled another one! The ball was NOT out!

G: Let me finish...

Q: No, I want to thump the lectern for a bit.

G: Go ahead. I'll just stare into the camera and look Presidential for a
   while.

M: I think we should let Admiral Stockdale speak...

S: Who are these guys?

Q: Clinton is a fibber! Clinton is a fibber! Clinton is a fibber!


M: OK, that's enough. Now to the abortion question: should women be
   allowed to have abortions or not.

G: Well, nobody likes abortions, but the state should keep out of it.

S: If they want.

Q: Every abortion is a beating heart and they're part of the family.
   Even gang members are part of the family. Family values are about
   having values in the family. Can we talk about something else please?

G: Qaylie can't say it! Quaylie can't say it! Quaylie can't say it!

Q: Clinton is a fibber! Clinton is a fibber! Clinton is a fibber!



M: How about the environment. What should we do?

G: Well, we can have jobs and we can have an environment and we can even
   have both. But we'll have to tax some stuff.

Q: Well, I've read a book, and I've even memorised some page numbers.

G: Wow, somebody read my book. Want me to sign it?

Q: on page 304 he says he's going to sell america to the russians for
   three tawny owls and a packet of lentils.

G: no, three tawny owls and a potatoe.

Q: Well, there are owls and there are coal miners, and there are cars
   and there are loggers, and I've no clue whatsoever about what point I
   was supposed to make here so I'd just like to say:

   Clinton is a fibber! Clinton is a fibber! Clinton is a fibber!

S: I'm sorry, I didn't have my hearing aid in. Who are you?


M: I'm not paid enough for this shit. OK, sum up guys:


S: I think someone nice should be President. They have plans for this
   sort of thing and there'll probably be candidates and stuff like that. 

G: Change, change, change. Vote for folks who stare at the camera.

Q: Clinton is a fibber! Clinton is a fibber! Clinton is a fibber!
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: donp@twg.com (Don Pette)
Subject: Re: Lou Reed (was Re: credit card peeve)
Organization: The Wollongong Group, Palo Alto, CA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:44:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.163017.2419@dazixco.ingr.com> avdh@sunnyboy.dazixco.ingr.com (Alain van der Heide) spews:
>
>Peeve:  Clones who think they know rock-n-roll, but have apparently never heard
>of the Velvet Underground (members included Lou Reed and John Cale - produced by


Listen Van Der Puke, Don't come around here tryin' to fit in using
worthless words like _clones_. If you're going to flame in this town,
do it right or get the fuck out.

BTW   - I am grateful for the Velvet Underground information, But JennyG
        informed me first, so bugger off.

peeve - I was 6 years old when VU was around, so I never heard of
        them. By the time I was old enough to get stoned and listen to
        rock with the big boys, the VU were no more.
        

-Don "The plethora of information here astounds" Pette
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Just Wondering...
Date: 7 Oct 92 22:23:36 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <CINDY.92Oct7215548@solan10.solan.unit.no> 
cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:

>PS I don't care if you claim Scandinavia includes Finland.  I don't
>mind that English language dictionaries sometimes claim it does.  I
>just think the prof in question is a hypocrite.


Understood, and no problem.  But why *wouldn't* Scandinavia include Finland?
I'm not particularly partisan about the matter, just curious.  I've always 
taken it for granted that it did.

Is it for linguistic reasons, or because it's separated from the adjacent 
countries by the Gulf Of Bothnia?  (Heh.  And I know which one's the
Skagerrak and which one's the Kattegat, too.)  Or are their saunas differ-
ent?


Geoff


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From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.politics.correct,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Esoteric Skinhead O'Connor (Was stuff about Mac D's)
Date: 7 Oct 92 09:49:55 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1asgoaINNfkl@bigboote.WPI.EDU> padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton) writes:
=>In article <1992Oct6.111639.7977@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
=>>In article <1992Oct5.134746.8281@umbc3.umbc.edu>, potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC)) writes:
=>
=>>> peeve: skinhead o'connor. where i agree with some of her ideas, her methods
=>>> 	are a bit extreme.

I think I've heard this line before, only last time it was about Jane Fonda.
"I like her exercise videos but I don't agree with her politics". 

=>>This reminds me. My aunt told me that Skinhead was on Saturday Night Live 
=>>a while back, and was singing with a lot of Jewish religious things around her
=>>(I don't know what sort of things she had as props, since I don't know anyone 
=>>who is Jewish... not counting a couple of net-people). Anyway, at the end of 
=>>the song she holds up a picture of the Pope, which she rips to shreds, and says
=>>"Let's fight the real enemy." Does anyone know what the HELL she was talking 
=>>about?
=>
=>This was just this past weekend - she had a Star of David around of neck
=>(which she has since mentioned reflects her interest in Rastafarianism), a
=>few candles, and sang a stream-of-consciousness a capella rant about 
=>racism and child abuse, which was inoffensive, but tiresome and trite.

It was a Bob Marley song, if you must know.

 At
=>the word "evil", she holds up a picture of the Pope, and proceeds to do what
=>you say.
=>
=>I didn't understand her point either,

probably not the first time you didn't understand something

=> but apparently, she has always believed
=>that organized religion is evil and somehow responsible for her being 
=>abused as a child. How organized religion is too concerned with material
=>things. Maybe she'll choke on all the dough she's raked up in the last few
=>years.

Shows what a caricature of a blinkered American you are. If you had any idea
of the influence of the Catholic church in Ireland, and the extent to
which the pronouncements of fat old men in funny dresses impinges on the
lives of ordinary people, maybe you wouldn't force your foot quite so far
down your gob. Odd though. Wasn't there a thread here about the IRA just
yesterday?

-- 
===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          Vommen
                                             Bladmagen
                                   Loepmagen
                        Naetmagen
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: jlacey@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (james.w.lacey)
Subject: Re: Rewriting History
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:15:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.175106.16879@odin.corp.sgi.com> zursch@whizkid.wpd.sgi.com (Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide) writes:
>we'll go to Holland. So they did. 
>...
>So the Pilgrim (accent on Grim) fathers went forth back to England and told 
>King Chuck (the great oppressor) that they would make all kinds of trouble
>again if he didn't give them some land. Obligingly, (and generously, imho) he
>didn't cut all their dour heads off and feed them to a bunch of hogs, but instead
>gave them a charter to a big chunk of what is now Delaware, Maryland, and Virginia. 
>
>But there were already people around down there. (And a lot of them Catholics, who left 
>for essentially the same reasons, only they were *really* being persecuted...)  So the
>wise Pilgrim fathers said "What the hell, it's the new world and there's lotsa space,
>and besides, what's he gonna do about it?" and set course for New England, figuring
>(correctly) that no one else, not the Dutch, not the English, nor any sane person
>would ever contest them for that godforsaken frozen rockpile we now call the states
>of Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine. 
>
>So they went there and set up a society founded everything *except* religious tolerance
>and freedom of worship. It was a 17th century Rajneeshi town. They burned their
>old women and tortured the indians and generally behaved like a bunch of televangelists
>when no one is watching......and believed that God in his heaven rejoiced at it. 
>...

About half-right history...

The Pilgrims, who called themselves Saints, (others called them Separatists),
where the ones who made it to Plymouth by way of Holland.  They
were not the same people as the Puritans who settled in Boston and
Salem.  The Pilgrims were more extreme than the Puritans, who
felt that the C of E could be purified by reforming it.  Eventually,
control of "Plimouth Plantation" was given over to the Puritans'
Massachusetts Bay Colony.

The Puritans, BTW, came to the New World for religious freedom:  but
ONLY their own.  Folks who disagreed with the Puritan establishment
were 1) banished -- leading to the founding of RI and Conn, or 2) hung
on Boston Common -- like some Quakers.  The last gasp of the
power of the Puritans was the witchcraft trials, in which more
than 20 "witches" were hung or pressed to death.  When the royal
governor returned after the executions had occurred, the sentences
were overturned and the families given monetary compensation.


ObPeeve:  Why are all FBI agents called "special" agents ?  Dont
they have any "regular" agents ?


-- 
     Jim Lacey  --  my own opinions    
     email:  att!cbnewsl!jlacey  or  jlacey@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
     D'ou venons-nous? Que sommes-nous? Ou allons-nous?
From: jennyb@triton.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Recipes for the New Depression
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:43:42 GMT
Organization: Dark Satanic Mills

In article <1992Oct6.214007.4545@bbxrbk> russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler) writes:
>In article <knfp3+-@lynx.unm.edu> jennyb@triton.unm.edu (Jenny Ballmann) writes:
>>spatleze	asparagus		pie crust, well pricked
>
>OK, I give up: where do you get spatlese around here?

From Jenn<y/i> or whoever's waiting tables these days.  I don't know about
Albuquerque, but Dayton, Ohio has a wonderful Lithuanian restaraunt called
the Amber Rose where they make these things.  

Peeve:  stuffy employees at the Pine Club who look askance at young ladies
with floral centerpieces on their heads.

!Peeve: Roses and carnations really smell nice.

Jenny
-- 
"Man without self-disipline is like a waggon hauled by refractory horses, where
driver does not keep hold of bridle at all." - H. Poropudas, Hanna-Maria's dad
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Recipes for the New Depression
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:01:37 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



In article <1992Oct9.042157.12433@cs.umb.edu> mzraly@ra.cs.umb.edu 
(Cheesy Vitriol) writes:

>ObPeeve#2: Supervisors who "need to speak to you" 10 minutes before the
>shift begins, when the shift is a dull eight hours overnight with
>plenty of idle time.  Doubly a peeve when combined with #1.


Peeve:  People who refine the above into, "I need to talk to you...later!"
Goddamit, either give me the whole thing now, or don't even mention it until
you have time to discuss it! 


Geoff


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From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Self-Assembly (was Caffeine and mornings)
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:27:27 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Oct10.033744.18539@news.iastate.edu> z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Agro-Barbarian) writes:
>	A while back, on sci.military or perhaps rec.guns, I told of
>trying the old trick of loading a 12ga shell with dimes.  As I'm sure
>somebody of Russ' stature will be certain to have access to a shotshell
>reloader, he may give it a try and report his findings too.  The test
>volunteers were rats at a local grain elevator near a landfill.  There
>were lots of them.  My friends and I shot off about 20 rounds, and
>discovered that at ranges over about 15 feet the target often escaped
>unscathed, though occassionally gutted.  Below this distance, the
>rat was instantly transformed into a pile of fur and a large stain.
>It sort of reminded me just how Yankee ingenuity helped tame the savage
>continent that was America.

Loading with dimes is a bit rich for my blood (although I'll consider
it if I ever need to off a werewolf and still have my coin collection).

Washers, though, should be easy to find in bulk and getting the right
gauge shouldn't be a problem.  Bit messy in the choke...

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home
Will hack unix for food 		(.sig stolen from dt - sorry, dt)
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Simple Answer time
Date: 14 Oct 92 11:50:16 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
] Now *this* brings up a scary thought.  Isn't religious fundamentalism the
] very epitome of the "I'm right and you're wrong" philosophy?  If so, that
] can only lead to one of two possible conclusions: 1) Religious fundamentalists
] are *right* (shudder), or 2) alt.peeves is a religion.


NO! You have been Lead Astray!

ciao
drieux

Will Eat Unix For Hack

-- 
Modern Day Problems:
In any case, don't give up, just type slower :-).
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Bob.