From: andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tim Lynch's Imaginary Friend)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Revised consistency check
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:13:43 GMT
     <1992Aug11.022942.11142@wdl.loral.com> <1992Aug12.000213.19610@csus.edu>
Organization: Leaers For a Better Yesterday

chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:
>bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com writes:

Note: I've heavily edited this article to get to want I want to reply to.

>># *Suppose your kid switches sides, and becomes pro-life? And:

So?

>># *Suppose they want to join the Catholic Church?

I won't be going with them.  Big deal.

>># *Suppose they announce that they're voting Republican?

So?

>># *What would you do if you found out your son was helping out in the Bush
>># campaign?

I'd be glad he was politcally aware and involved.

>># *How would you react if your son or daughter joined the National Right to
>># Life Committee?

Before or after the dead faint? :)

I wouldn't really care, except to note not to call them during the meeting
times.

>># *How's about if they said they'd join a Christian pro-life group and appear
>># on the 700 Club?

I wouldn't watch, but that's their business.

>># *Work on the Jesse Helms campaign?

I doubt there would be one by the time I have children that old.  However, I
would wonder why; Helms is one of the worst things to happen to the Senate
this century.

>>All of these things are certainly horrifying, but none of them are
>>illegal. They do seem like arguments for not having children (i.e.
>>that any of these things could come to pass is grounds for religious
>>use of contraceptives).
>
>But how would you react to having him sitting across the table from
>you? 

I'd feed him, of course.

>Would you let him have any piece of your inheritance, knowing it might
>go, in some part, to the pro-life cause? 

Steve, you're missing a fundaental clue here.

Once I'm dead, I don't *care* where my money goes.

>># 4) Disown them from the family?
>>
>>`Disown?' No. That's ridiculous.
>
>Well, like I said, I know I'd be using a bit of my inheritance towards
>the pro-life cause. Would you want your son to get anything, knowing
>he might do that? (Or in other cases, your daughter.) 

I wouldn't necessarily want it, but as I said--I wouldn't be in a position to
care.

>>What? Having trouble getting your lithium prescription refilled?
>
>Only if you're stealing it. :) 

Which means that if he isn't, you're not having any trouble.

[kid going pro-life]

>I said, how would you treat the kid? Suppose s/he did not listen to
>your opinion that they were wrong? What would you do if your friends
>came in and saw pro-life stuff in his/her room? 
>
>C'mon, kid, answer it directly. Let's not throw in extra's. 

Fine.  If the kid does't listen, if s/he posts pro-life propaganda (note:
I'm using this word in a neutral sense, or at least fully aware that the
pro-choice side has just as much propaganda) in his/her room, then I
would go in there as little as possible.  I would respect his/her views,
as I would want mine respected.

>>Where do you even get the idea that pro-choicers wouldn't tolerate
>>pro-life activism in their sons and daughters and choose to punish
>>them with emotional or, worse yet, PHYSICAL abuse?
>
>From right here in Sacto. It happens all the time - I have two members
>in our group who don't want their names listed too conspicuously
>because they have active NARAL-member parents and family who'd pull
>their tuition money and send them, 19 and 21, off to live on their
>own. And there isn't any pro-abort around here who'd have a beef about
>that. 

Untrue.  That's poor parenting, no matter WHO does it.

>>Otherwise, get help. Even my future father-in-law, who lives in Yorba
>>Linda, California, and is about as anti-abortion as anyone, would
>>never do anything as heinous as kick his children into homelessness
>>over a political disagreement. The worst he ever did was get *real*
>>grouchy.
>
>Then he ain't Mark Kaufman or Patrick Humphrey. 

Fine.  Then don't paint all pro-choicers with the same brush.

>It still holds in this household that black Republicans are
>sick-minded Uncle Tom's (well, at least my mother didn't believe Anita
>Hill), 

Then they're just as racist as they claim not to be.

>And don't start up on that dysfunctional shit, either - at least _we_
>don't sniff the flower, drop out of school or have the cops dropping
>by our house weekly, to check out a family brawl.  

That's not the only measure of functionality.

-- 
--Andrew Hackard                            Keisha J. Gray Memorial .sig:
  andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu            "Should old acquaintance be forgot...nah."

I'm not UT.           Bert 'n' Ernie '92: We have lots of practice at spelling.
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