From: chiam@VULCAN.CBA.OHIOU.EDU (Ta Fuh Chiam)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Installing Pathworks for VMS on Mac
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:26:06 GMT
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>    I don't know anything about the TEI program so I could be wrong on
>    this, but I think the approx $300 dollar figure is for
>
>        Media
>        Docs
>        and at least 1 client license (this is where I'm on thin ice
>                                       because I don't know about the TEI
>                                       program)
 
Nope. I just checked the prices. The Pathworks for MAC client license (part #:
QL-YPH9W-AA) is listed for $308.00. Under the TEI, you can purchase it at 50%
discount if you purchase more than 50 of them. You still have to purchase the
media and doc for the server as well as the client. Server Media and doc set
(part # is QA-YPHAA-H)  is listed at $430, (TEI customers can take 30% off, I
think,) client media and doc (part # is QA-YPCAA-H) is listed at $245 (again,
30% off for TEI customers.) See how Pathwork is overpriced? :-) Wake up, DEC!
You need one client license for each MAC that is going to run Pathworks or use
any Pathworks for MAC services such as VAXshare, VAXPrint etc..
 
>    The PATHWORKS for Macintosh v1.1 kit (client) is a TK50 with over
>    30,000 disk blocks on it.  Some how I don't really think you want over
>    15 megabytes of data shipped to you on floppies (or maybe you do :-)
 
Sure, Novell and everybody else does! :-)
 
>    This the client kit installs a the PATHWORKS for Macintosh client
>    volume on your VMS system.  The Macintosh clients then connect to the
>    server and run the installer script in the volume to install the bits
>    over the network.  As far a I know there is no diskette needed for
>    v1.1.
 
The best feature I have ever seen. I can just wished DEC has done it in V1.0,
but it what we always say, it's V1.0 and you don't buy any V1.0 product from
DEC! :-)
 
>    Half true.
>
>    A Macintosh is not restricted to 1 network protocol.  It is more then
>    happy to talk multiple protocols all at the same time (of course the
>    more protocol stacks you have loaded at the same time, the more memory
>    your Mac is going to consume, but the good news is that memory is cheap
>    these days, and Macintosh systems know how to use additional memory
>    with out hasseling the user, not like some PeeeeeCeeeee's I could
>    mention :-)
 
And the bad news that you left out is that some applications on the MAC
conflicts with each other and all you sometimes get is the cute little bomb. :-)
 
>        MacTerminal is suppled with CommToolBox tools to use DECnet's
>        CTERM, LAT, or the Modem (with 3rd party CTB tools you can use
>        other transports as well).
 
Do I wish that MacTerminal will use TCP/IP for doing TELNET! Bob, can you SPR
this for us? ;-)
 
>        DECnet's NetCopy uses DECnet (what else!)
 
At least it is better than AppleTalk! Now if it can be changed sso that you can
just drag an icon from one place to another instead of clicking on COPY to make
a copy after selecting the ones you want to copy, it will be better.
 
>    Some exceptions:  If you have the right LocalTalk to Ethernet router
>    box (FASTPATH V, GatorBox, etc...), DECnet can be run on LocalTalk by
>    tunneling over AppleTalk (DECnet packets sent to router box in an
>    AppleTalk wrapper, router box strips away the wrapper and send/receives
>    DECnet directly).
 
Hmm, interesting. How exactly do you do that?
 
>    There is a LAT gateway in v1.1 (software which will run on a Mac which
>    has both LocalTalk and Ethernet connections) will do the same things
>    for LAT communications over LocalTalk.
 
A very nice feature that I really like, really. Except that LocalTalk is too
slow and can't take a big load.
 
>    Someone else will have to address this question, I don't really get out
>    all that much to see what the rest of the world is doing.
 
I hope DEC does go out and see what the rest of the world is doing. May be that
is why DEC is getting worse nowadays.
 
Ta Fuh Chiam
 
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