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From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Back to the future?
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:21:57 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct14.005316.22306@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
> In article <1992Oct13.140253.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>
>>       If the future is any indicator of the past, then:
>>
>>                        SB VII    Miami vs Washington   Miami wins
>>                        SB XVII   Miami vs Washington   Washington wins
>>                        SB XXVII  Miami? vs Washington? ????????
>>
>>       Just something to think about.
>>
>>                                         -doug THE dolfan-
> 
> Just one slight correction:
> 
>       SB XXVII  Miami? vs San Francisco  Niners WIN..Watters MVP


             Well, John, I hope someone has already told you that this
slight correction is completely WRONG!

        SB XIX   Miami vs San Fran
           ^^^

             The only point I was trying to make is the fact that the 
Dolphins and Redskins have played in SB 7, and SB 17. It is not too much of
a long shot to consider SB 27 a game between the two. Don't you get it? Every
ten years the same two teams play? Hello is there any body out there?


                    -doug THE dolfan-

> -- 
>   ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
> "I do not think that winning is the most important thing. 
> I think winning is the only thing."    - Bill Veeck
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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: BEWARE PHILLY FANS! WATCH THE TRASH TALKING..
Originator: delarocq@c00080-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:27:11 GMT




  ALLRIGHT, YOU RENEGADE PHILLY FANS!!!!!!!

  TRUST ME, I AM A BUFFALO BILLS FAN, AND YOU CANNOT GO SAYING RIDICULOUS
  NOTIONS LIKE 15-1 AND VICTORY. I TALKED MY TRASH EARLY, AND GOT UPENDED.

  PHILLY WILL FALL AGAIN, SO BE PREPARED TO FACE THE HEAT!!

  JUST A FRIENDLY WARNING FROM A NOT-SO-FRIENDLY CHIEFS AND BILLS BACKER!!!


  (I LOVE WRITING IN CAPS--I AM TOO LAZY TO USE THE SHIFT!! :)

  I can't stand:        I wholly support:

  Raiders               Bills
  Redskins              Chiefs
  Cowboys               Eagles
  Giants                Packers
  49ers                 Steelers
  Miami               
  Cincinnati (because of a little Monday Night James Lofton kicking last year..)

  
  
-- 
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: James Brooks -- Where the hell is he playing?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:23:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.194938.10244@ms.uky.edu> thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell) writes:
>I think James Brooks was one of the best backs of the 80's and
>still has a few good years in him.  The bengals were stupid to
>let him slip away from them.  My question is WHERE THE HELL IS
>HE PLAYING???@!?!?!  I know that Cleveland picked him up off of
>the Plan B (Personally I belive this was for no other reason than
>to not have to play *against* him) but, then I heard then say on
>primetime that he was playing at Tampa Bay (for dynamic sammy).
>
>So where is he?  What's his numbers? How's he doing?  Could someone
>say hello from one of his biggest fans?????
>
>Alex
>
>p.s. Thank god I didn't have to see boomer throw 4 more INT's this week.

James is here in Tampa Bay.  This Indianapolis game was his first game
a Buccaneer.   He caught the ball fairly well in the game for not hav-
ing the opportunity to get his timing down between himself and the QB.
Unfortuneatly,  he turned out to be one of  the goats of the game,  by
coughing up  a most untimely fumble enroute to an upset win by Indian-
apolis.
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From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Face In The Sky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Eagles lose: Where were the safeties?
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:30:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct15.212710.25090@ncsu.edu>, jawiles@eos.ncsu.edu (JERRY ALLEN
	WILES) writes...
>  |      =   \\ /    __       THE BRONCOS WOULD BE IN 5th PLACE IN THE NFC EAST

Judging from recent results,

                               THE CHIEFS WOULD BE IN 1st PLACE IN THE NFC EAST

					---Chet Zeshonski
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dallas killed by Philly
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:05:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <1992Oct6.174740.27895@hellgate.utah.edu> twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf) writes:
>   After watching Dallas play 3 games this year, I keep wondering how
>   Aikman holds onto the #1 QB job in Dallas.

Are you kidding?  After three games, he was the #4 rated passer in the
league, behind Cunningham, Kelly, and (I think) Young.  His rating for
the year (before the Eagles) was around 101.  What more do you want of
the guy?

Daniel Welch

p.s.  One thing to salvage from the Cowboys' loss:  we brought Randall's
QB rating down about 23 points.  I knew he couldn't keep it up!  HA!  OK,
so I'm grasping at straws.  Lemme lick the wounds in peace.
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From: bernie@lgc.com (Bernie De La Torre)
Subject: Re: AFC-Daydreams
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corp., Houston, Tx.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:42:50 GMT

In article <21039@plains.NoDak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> After the Bills were up on a 4-0 start, we could hear all the
|> Bills fans screaming all over the net and asking to bring in
|> the "Fish". Now after the Dolphins have upset the Bills( It
|> is only one game), the Dolfans are now out for blood of the
|> Bills' fans.  After these victories over each other, some of
|> the fans have already started envisioning Super-Bowl victories
|> .  It is a personal right to dream, but not to become blind.
|> 
|> Occassionally, these AFC teams run into some mighty NFC teams
|> as part of their regular season schedule and are rendered a
|> thorough spanking and these fans
|>  come out of their stupor: See the 30-0
|> rout of the Broncos by the Eagles.
|> 
|> But the blind fans do not learn and are back into their cocoon
|> when their team beats up another weak AFC rival and the day
|> dreaming starts all over again. It is just like the proverbial
|> ostrich burying its head in the sand: If I cannot see others,
|> no one else can see me.
|> 
|> After seeing the Eagles perform, I ask, Is there any AFC-team
|> which can take on the Eagles when it counts. No offence, I just
|> cannot see a single AFC team having the credentials.
|> 
|> S.H
|> Go Vikes!!  
|> 
|> 

Actually, Miami has a very good record against NFC teams. In fact,
they have never lost to an NFC team at Joe Robbie Stadium. I think
their record is now 8-0. 

I can still remember the win over Buddy Ryan's Eagles two years
ago. Another 4th quarter comeback by Marino.
 
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From: bsmith@serverx.osf.org (Bruce Smith)
Subject: Re: Patriots News 10/16
Keywords: Millen  out
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:13:54 GMT

In article <a750288.33@pan.mc.ti.com> a750288@pan.mc.ti.com (John E. Brennan) writes:
>
>Patriots News 10/16
>
>There's also been rumors for a while now that the Patriots will be going
>sometime in the future, probably to St. Louis.  I've got some questions
>on that:
>
>1.  To Patriots fans in NE: how much stock do you put in these rumors, and
>what are your feelings about NE losing the Pats?
>
>Please post or e-mail your replies.  Thanks!
>

My feelings about it? It stinks! The move would not only take away my
favorite team (although why they are, I'll never understand), but would
effectively end my ability to attend pro football games. 

If the Pats moved, I would certainly not root for them as the St. Louis Pats,
or St. Louis Budweisers, or whatever they'd be called. I would simply make
my current 2nd-favorite team -- the Giants -- the primary object of my football
affections. Unfortunately, not only are the Giants home games 4.5 hours away
from me, but tickets are very hard to come by, unlike most Pats games. I 
managed to attend one Giants game last year because someone gave me a
couple of tickets.  Even for the lowly Pats, good seats are tough to get,
though. On the brighter side in such a scenario, most Giants games would be
televised here in the Boston area; many already are.

I think there's a reasonable chance the Pats could leave, although I think the
NFL would be unhappy about the prospect of losing such a lucrative TV market.


Bruce Smith



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From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Subject: Cowboys over*POWER* the Chefs, er Chiefs
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:47:53 GMT



     MIrvin has declared this weekend "National Be Quiet" Weekend
until 12:00 noon Sunday.  No drinking or talking allowed.  At noon,
fans can let it all out.

     How many people does it take to replace Bill Bates?  Five.  Ken
Norton will replace him on nickel D.  Tony Hill on kick returns. 
Godfrey Myles on KOs. DJ on punts and Tommy Agee on punt returns...
Bates has asked to participate as an asst coach while rehabbing.

     JJones is negotiating a new contract with Emmitt's agent.  JJ would
like to have it done in a month.  In a recent poll of NFL personnel types,
Smith ranked in 2nd to Reggie White in next year's most desirable free
agents.

      In a previous thread, there was some discussion about Harper's lack
of production.  In the DMNews article on MIrvin today,  Harper only catches
36.8 of the passes thrown his way.  Compared to 65.8 for Michael, I think
I can see why Troy doesn't throw his way more often.  The article also 
pointed out that Harper has been more productive at this point in his 
career than Irvin was.


     LT MTunei hurt his back doing squats yesterday. Hospitalized over-
night, his status for sunday is uncertain.

Special KC note:  JJ Birden was on the Cowboys practice squad in '89.


Sources: Dallas Morning News, area talk shows
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knees*I'd stop it spinnin' round*But as it is, I'm climbing   | My opinions only
up an endless wall*No time this time, No time at all          |
       - The Police, "No Time This Time"                      | Da Boyz are back!!
From: TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tom Steegmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: TJGA Predicitons for week 6
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:56:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: ua1vm.1687BC410.TSTEEGM3
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa


 
    OK, folks, here we go again.  After watching the Bills get killed last
week (ouch ), and the Eagles beat up on the 'Boys, there wasnt as much
change in the power ratings as one might have expected.  Here are the Power
ratings, followed by the predicitions for this week, as generated by the
Tom and Jon  Goegraphy Algorithm:
 
Minnesota         29
Buffalo           28.84
Philadelphia      28.72
KC                27.96
Miami (boo!)      27.89
Houston           27.86
San Fran          27.86
Tampa Bay         27.68
San Diego         27.68
Washington        27.48
Pittsburgh        27.26
Dallas            27.26
LA Raiders        27.06
Chicago           26.81
NY Jets           26.7
NY Giants         26.5
Detroit           26.46
New Orleans       26.23
Atlanta           25.53
Green Bay         25.22
LA Rams           25.2
Denver            24.94
Seattle           24.88
Phoenix           24.8
Cincinnati        24.74
Cleveland         24.68
New England       23.87
Indianapolis      23.28
 
Predictions:
Miami +9 over Atlanta
Philly even KC
NYG +7 over Phoenix
Pitt  +5 1/2 over Cleveland
SF +10  NE
Dallas +9 over Seattle
Buffalo +3 1/2 over LA Raiders
Houston +7 1/2 over Cincinnati
NY Jets +8 1/2 over Indy
New Orleans +5 over LA Rams
Washington +9 1/2 over Denver
 
Last week, this program went .500 vs the line and winners.   We'll see
if it doesnt do a little better this week.  The Washington Denver game
should show us how shitty both teams really are this year.  I have to
go with the 'Skins though.   Any comments?
 
Tom Steegmann
Jon Acker
University of Alabama Geography Dept.
 
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From: Tori Shula ,I wish
Subject: Re: To all Dolphin fans
Keywords: shula 
Organization: UCF
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:14:24 GMT

In article <Ahn-061092014905@branford-college-node.net.yale.edu>
Ahn@pop.cis.yale.edu (Eugene R. Ahn) writes:
>In article <Bvnwrw.D3r@encore.com>, tolsen@encore.com (Ted Olsen) wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Let me start by saying that I was in the Orange Bowl the night
>> Joe Auer ran the Dolphins very first kickoff return 
>> back for a touchdown.  I was then and have always been a
>> Dolphin fan. Okay... I'm an old shit :-)  Anyway.. on to my point.
>
>We're not worthy! We're not worthy!
>
>> Over the last year or so I have quietly watched
>> the posts that take place here in r.s.f.p.  I have
>> always been amused by the way people get so excited when
>> their team wins a big game and have been equally amazed by how fast
>> people kick their team when they loose a big game.  I have always attributed
>> it to those (insert derogatory remark here) fans of those other teams.
>
>OK. Sort of a fallacy to begin with, but go on.
>
>> So....  We have a big game this weekend.  We win..  And guess what?
>> Dolphin fans have really let me down. They are doing the same thing!
>> My god people they won one game!  Yes, it was one of the biggest wins
>> in the last couple of years. Yes, Keith Jackson has made a good offense
>> better. Yes, the defense is improving. Yes, I'm excited as you, however,
>> they still have 12 to play.  How the hell can you even be talking about
>> going 16 and 0? They still have to play Atlanta, Buffalo, New Orleans,
>> San Francisco, Houston, Indy twice, and New York twice.  Maybe you all
>> were just kidding about 16 and 0?  Right???  I hope so! Lets calm down, 
>> see what happens over the next 12 weeks and hope for a Buffalo/Miami AFC    
>> championship game here in Miami this January!
>
>Well, to assume that the people who post here are a large representative
>portion of dolfans is pretty silly. Part of it's for show and taunt anyway,
>at least it is with me.16-0 YEAHHH! What's the use in restraining joy!? The
>great thing about joy is that you live for the moment and not for the
>future.
>
>Well, anyway, keep your faith pops! The skies not falling!
>
>> Hey.  I want them to win as badly as you but the posts this morning
>> were a bit much.
>
>Thanks pops. We won't do it again. By the way, could I have 7 bucks for the
>movies?
>
>--
>Mos Eisley  
>"Children's television is like dog food. They don't care what it tastes
>like as long as the kids eat it." Bob Camp, producer, now director of R&S,
>on TV networks
>
 Hey pops your the man of my dreams, you wouldn't happen to be 25 and single
would you?  I agree with you, we shouldn't get our hopes up for an undefeated
season and all the fair weather fans should get a life.  Yes,we beat Buffalo,
no creamed them, but they will be back Nov. 16 and I hope Kelly has another bad
day.  I do believe Jackson is going to put some hot coals in these guys pants.
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Eagles : YIKES!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:18:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.040141.6315@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.030847.19011@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>
>     [ Bob Marshall's rebuttal on Gloria's claim that stats don't mean squit ]
>
>>Ahh, finally a netter that is SHARP. I threw that in there
>>just to see who would catch it. Congrats.! BTW, this tidit about
>>Seifert was shown on t.v. last week.
>Oh, no wonder you have so many contradictions in your postings. You just want
>us to catch your inconsistencies? I mean, it doesn't have to be SHARP to see
>your nonsense.
>
>What a wimp! Rook, you still have to go a long way to get into flame wars in 
>this group.
>
>-- 
>                                          Edward Lor
>                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
>                                          
Hey Lor, you wouldn't know what a flame war was, even it burned your
ass. Another idiotic bites the bullet. Through your own admission,
you admit you ARE NOT sharp. Man, what a dweeb. If you can't take
a ribbing and some BS, then you ought to play with the girls in
some parochial school. Guys like you really make me laugh, you
have no idea how much fun I have getting your goats. It is too
easy. Why don't you stick to something you might know about
like protocols or STPs. :-)
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
  of us could not succeed.  -   Mark Twain
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From: gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: Apology - take foot out mouth :-)
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:28:42 GMT

jg> John P. Gloria

jg> My only point, seriously, was to state that a Cunningham, Elway or Kelly,
    are not Gods and they are suspect QBs (IMHO) when it comes to big games.

  "Big game" meaning "Super Bowl" and only "Super Bowl" in your view. Sorry,
  there's lots of games that are "big games", for example, championship games,
  divisional playoff games, playoff games, and yes, even regular season games.

jg> YES, I know their stats in the overall scheme of the NFL, but these stats,
    IMHO, are not going to win them SBs.

  No, nor will lousy stats keep a QB from winning an SB. Put a medicore QB be
  hind a hypothetical team which has a massive line, give him two or three 
  power running backs, and give him a defense that kills opponents, bingo, 
  you've got all the necessary ingredients for a SB contender. Heck, if all
  the guy does is hand off, he can still make it to the SB as part of such
  a team. However, very few real teams have enough superiority in the non-QB
  parts of the game to get by with a mediocre QB, so they need someone who's
  pretty good. Cunningham, Elway, and Kelly all fit that bill easily.

  In any case, would you agree that getting to the SB requires a team to have
  a good QB? And that big games need to be won to get to the SB? Ergo, a good
  QB who wins big games for his team in their hunt for the SB doesn't auto-
  matically become "suspect" or "average" merely if his team loses the SB.

jg> BTW: I am a Niner fan, 

  As if we didn't already know. Explains a lot.

jg> As evidenced by today's win over the Patriots (Niners 24 Patriots 12), 
    Young was able to come back and win the game. Although, I prefer Bono 
    over Young, Young did what it took to win the game.

  Elway's done the same 3 times over New England, a couple of times when NE
  was a much better team too. Young hasn't even been in an SB, so does that
  make Elway better than Young? Based on your criteria, 'twould seem so.

jg> So please accept my apologies for stepping on some toes and for my stupid
    remarks in support of "non-facts" that I kinda threw in to mess with your
    minds.

  My acceptance of your "apology" is pending. Let's see you grow up and make
  some reasoned arguments to dig yourself out of the hole you've made, then
  I'll take you seriously, and not as just some random asshole.

--
Gary Strand                      Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
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From: weaver@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Dave Weaver)
Subject: A diet of crow...
Organization: SPS
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:32:39 GMT

I am not a regular reader, but by far the most entertaining thing on
this newsgroup is seeing predictions like...

>Browning Nagle: 300+ yards  3 tdowns
>Blair Thomas:   120+ yards  1 tdown 
>Moore&Toon :    200+ yards  2 tdowns
>To make a long story short : Ny Jets   42   Indy  7
>
>Go Jets :-)

or 

>I feel really sorry for the Raiders secondary after the whupping they shall
>occur on Sunday.  The Bills have a history of having a bad defeat followed by
>a severe thumping of the following opponent (does anyone remember the merciful
>42-6 win over Indianapolis last year?).  

What fun -- watching the arrogant humbled...Shall they ever learn?

'Tis better to keep the keyboard quiet and be suspected a fool,
than to post and thereby remove all doubt.

Dave Weaver


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From: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Subject: Re: EAGLES BEAT THE COWPUSSIES AND THATS ALL TO SAY..EXCEPT PREDICTIONS
Reply-To: emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:38:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.015732.16853@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>,
aperkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Aaron B. Perkins) writes:
|>SO HERE ARE THIS WEEKS PREDICTIONS OF THE K.C. GAME.......
|>                                EAGLES 27
|>                                K.C.   10
|>
|>                    GOOD GAME (BETTER THAN THE COWPUSSIES EMBARESMENT)

|>
|>signed julius the master predictor
       
        well well well i guess your luck had to run out sooner or
        later....................................16-0
.....nottttttttttttttttttttttttt  ;))
From: jw5c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jeffrey Weeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EAGLES, COWBOYS
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:34:11 GMT
Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I have read enough of this pandering shit about how good the Eagles are.
 Lucky is more like it.  Any team that gets a triple-tipped interception
and a fumble from an experienced reciever like an offensive lineman. 
Cut out these flukes and the Cowboys kick Philly's vaunted defense
around.  Don't worry you guys have no offense so enjoy being on top for
one week.