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From: jay@cmn6.Stanford.EDU (Jay Kadis)
Subject: Has anyone tried the new Roland MIDI guitar?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:00:59 GMT

I'm looking for info on the new Roland MIDI guitar system.  It sounds  
pretty cool, but the ads always do...

Jay
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:10159 alt.guitar:8816
From: lkane@ctron.com (Laura J. Kane)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
Subject: How to make an acoustic sound electric.
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:37:12 GMT
Reply-To: lkane@cardinals.ctron.com (Laura J. Kane)
Followup-To: rec.music.makers
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.



I attended a concert last weekend. And, as always, checked out all the
gear on the stage. The shiney Taylor caught my eye, I just love the
way they sound and feel!! Yes, I'm a taylor-wannabe-but can't justify
the expense ;-) 

Anyway, the woman began to play, but this didn't sound like any acoustic 
guitar I've ever heard!

Had I not been looking, I would have assumed that the guitar was a Les
Paul or Gibson Jazz-type guitar. What I want to ask you all is how can
an acoustic guitar be made to sound like an electric jazz guitar. I know
it's in the pickups, amp, processors, etc, etc...  but I wouldn't know
where to begin. 

Any info is greatly appreciated!! E-mail is prefered. I will post a 
summary if there's any interest.


Thanks in advance!

Laura

-- 

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*Laura Kane (lkane@ctron.com)     Cabletron Systems Inc.        Rochester N.H.*
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From: piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Lyrics request
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:31:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T


	Yes, I've looked at ftp.nevada.edu.
	Yes, I've looked at cs.uwp.edu.

	So, I need the lyrics to two songs. I've been sort of mumbling
	them for a while now.

	The songs are:

	The Wait  - by The Pretenders, and
	Blitzkrieg Bop - By The Ramones.

	Note, I don't really want to know what you think they are,
	but what they *really* are........... (ha!)

	thanks,



-- 
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          Zip                  |   Leaves are turning into Blood,           
Steelers in 92, Bubby's Back!  |   Trees a viscous corpuscular flood - me.   
"Anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it"
From: quint@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris Quint)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Monitors/Advice Wanted
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:28:07 GMT
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA


My band has decided that we want to invest in some kind of monitor system.
We have a 6 channel Sunn PA amplifier with a monitor send, but its my 
understanding that we would still need a separate monitor amp to amplify
that signal for the monitor speakers.  Is that generally true?  If so, we
may want to get a couple of those small monitors with built in amps, in the
interest of having less equipment to move and take up room in our studio.
We don't play REAL loud, so smaller monitors may be enough.  Our drummer 
once used the type of small, self-amped monitor speaker that can be mounted
on a mic stand, and he said it worked great.  If it was loud enough for him
it should be fine for the rest of us.  Has anyone out there got experience 
they'd like to share on this subject?  Is anyone selling some of these used?

thanks,
Chris
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: jacobson_d@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Mesa Boogie Mark III
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:52:28 GMT

   I'm looking for information on 
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar,nj.forsale,misc.forsale
From: sis1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (steven.i.schwebel)
Subject:   For SALE: KRAMER guitar
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:10:39 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: sale guitar kramer


################################################################################
	FOR SALE:

		KRAMER AMERICAN/STAGEMASTER CUSTOM guitar
		
		Red, with FLOYD ROSE, 3 SEYMOUR DUNCAN pickups.

		Neck-through-body construction.

		In excellent condition, with case $680 or best offer.

		Will also consider swapping for Gibson Les Paul Jr.
		or Epiphone Wilshire.

Call Gene Calarco daytime at (212) 708-0461
################################################################################
From: mtvfb@nl (Fokke de Boer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: MUSENET 92 - Craig are you out there??
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:21:36 GMT
Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene,Bilthoven,NL
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Stefan Bechtold (stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org) wrote:
: In article <386@ittc.wec.com> simmons@ittc.wec.com (Garry Simmons) writes:
: >For Craig Latta or anyone else that knows...
: >My band wants to submit a song on DAT for the MUSENET 92 compilation. I never saved
: I've mailed Craig twice, but he didn't reply :-(( So if anyone who is
: involved in this project  would mail to me also it would be great...
: Stefan


He Craig! Or anyone who can reach him! I have submitted a song too, 
and I would like to know whether it has arrived! PLEASE give the net
info on who is on the compilation!

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EMAIL	mtvfb@rivm.nl
SNAIL	RIVM, dep. MTV, PO Box 1, 3720 BA Bilthoven, The Netherlands
PHONE	(..31) 30 743530 
FAX		(..31) 30 250740
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: dxc@netcom.com (Dixie Chan)
Subject: 40's band available for parties, special events
Summary: 40's jazz band available for parties, events
Keywords: 40's jazz band
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 05:41:35 GMT

		40's Band
	16 piece jazz orchestra
	 available to play at
       parties and special events

Music of Gershwin, Duke Ellington, Cole Porter
	jazz quartet also available

	For more information,
        call Carol at:  415  856-3320

(I'm posting this for a friend. 
 Please do not send email to me. Thanks)
From: gpr@midiline.la.ca.us (Gary Richardi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Yes lyrics!
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 21:35:09 PDT
Organization: MIDILine BBS - Altadena, CA - (818) 797-3285

> Despite all the legalities surrounding the issue I think that music is
> supposed to be shared. I, myself would feel flattered that any band would
> want to cover my songs, whether it's the garage band getting together every
> weekend or U2 playing to stadium-sized audiences ('cha right...) I find
> that I wouldn't mind if any band made money playing my songs since the music
> I write was meant to be shared and not to be protected by loops of red tape
> which curtails almost all enjoyment out of playing or listening to the music.
> 
I don't think it's just a matter of feeling flattered. I've played in 
amature and semi-pro bands for years. I remember reading that if a bar 
has a juke box, somehow ASCAP & BMI collect roytalies on the songs 
played. Also, any band can play cover tunes in these bars without worry 
since the bars basically pays roytalies anyway. As for lyrics on the net, 
I think it's an issue regarding the letter vs the spirit of the law. I'm 
no lawyer, but I'd venture to guess that the 'spirit' of the copyright is 
to guard against re-publishing for profit, eg. book of Led Zepplin lyrics 
(hey, didn't they rip those songs off from American bluesmen, anyway?). 
.flame on
That's a big problem with this country today. Everyone's so afraid of of 
getting sued, we're developing into a constipated society!
.flame off
I was glad to hear the ruling in the "Ozzy Osborne made my kid commit 
suicide". At least the 1st amendment is still alive. (Not a fan - I just 
excercise my right NOT to listen to his stuff).

---- Gary ----


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gpr@midiline.la.ca.us (Gary Richardi) 
MIDILine BBS (midiline.la.ca.us) - Altadena CA - (818)797-3285
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar.bass
From: ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (C. Brian Batey)
Subject: Re: Peavey bass equipment
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 14:25:35 CST

In article <BvrEF3.19C@math.uwaterloo.ca>
irmurray@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ian Murray) writes:
 
>
>Hey...
>
>I'm looking for information on Peavey bass equipment: basses (the model(s)
>with two humbuckers(?)) and amp combos (TKO series with or w/o Black Widow
>speaker).
>
>Any and all comments (playability, versatility, price...) are appreciated.
>
>Thanks, Ian.
>--
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Ian Murray                    | Overweight gypsies lack
>Dept. of Applied Math., U.W.  | colour denomination
>irmurray@math.waterloo.edu    | and goggles.             -- the Tribe of Scribe
 
I've played several Peavey basses over the past couple of years, and I'm not
very fond of them.  They seem to be well made, but their electronics give
a kindof 'clanky' sound.  I've found this to be especially true for the
TL series basses.  However, I do like their amps and Black Widow woofers.
I have a Combo 300 that I get a lot of good service from.  I played a
TKO the other day that was Scorpion loaded and didn't like it.  I don't know
whether it was the amp, the woofer, or what, but it didn't have near the
tone quality of my bass and seemed to have trouble on some of the low notes.
 
lateron
 
brian
adcbb@vm.cc.latech.edu
From: rfisel@informix.com (Rick Fisel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: How to make an acoustic sound electric.
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:21:07 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

lkane@ctron.com (Laura J. Kane) writes:
> [... anecdote deleted ...]
>What I want to ask you all is how can
>an acoustic guitar be made to sound like an electric jazz guitar. I know
>it's in the pickups, amp, processors, etc, etc...  but I wouldn't know
>where to begin. 

If you want your acoustic to sound like an electric, you can get close by out-
fitting it with the same sort of hardware: very light strings, and magnetic (as 
opposed to piezoelectric) pickups placed very close to the strings.

In my experience, the major differences you will find at this point are
more feedback and longer sustain on the modified acoustic. And of course the
acoustic will tend to be harder to play...

Good luck,

Rick
-- 
Rick Fisel (rfisel@informix.com)	|	Privatize George Bush!
opinionated employee of opinionless	|
Informix Software			|
I prefer replies by email. 		|
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:10122 alt.rock-n-roll:16709
From: daveh@Auspex.COM (David Higgen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Yes lyrics
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:56:37 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Does anyone happen to have the lyrics to Yes's "Owner of
a Lonely Heart"? (My band would like to do it).

Let me quickly say this is a last resort request, otherwise
I wouldn't be bothering the good citizens of the net!

We ordered the sheet music: it's out of print. And I've
had commitees of people trying to decipher 'em while I
tune graphic EQs to try to clarify the vocals.... and
still patches are unintelligible. (Of course, I suppose
one could say if they're *that* obscure, just fake 'em:
but it would be nice to get them right!)

I have it only on cassette, so I'm just wondering 
if the LP (remember them?!) might have included a lyric
sheet?

Thanks!

		Dave Higgen (daveh@auspex.com)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
From: richards@mcnc.org (Bill Richards)
Subject: Studio equipment for sale
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:03:32 GMT

As the subject line says - some studio equipment for sale. This is not my gear,
but a friend of mine's. It has been well-maintained in a well-run studio since
its purchase. Please respond directly to the number below for serious inquiries.

1)	Sony PCM F-1 digital Processor with Sony super BETA HI-FI SLHF-600
	$1200.00. His information indicates the processor itself is worth the
	$1200. For DAT-quality PCM recording on BETA tape. Used for digital
	mastering in his studio.

2)	Akai S900 Sampler w/Sample library. $1000.

3)	Alesis HR-16B Drum Machine. $275.

4)	SAE MKIII Power Amp. 250W/side. $450.

5)	Fostex 4030 Synchroniser. Fostex 4035 Controller. $1200 for both.

Please don't flame me for asking prices. Call him. I'm sure he's willing to
deal a bit.

Call (919) 828-3410 and ask for John. NOT in the mornings, please. Late after-
noons or evenings. chiao.

-- 
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Bill Richards MTS					Phone: (919) 248-1452
Microelectronics Center of North Carolina		Fax:   (919) 248-1455
PO Box 12889
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: daver@raker.cc.gatech.edu (David Rosenbaum)
Subject: Re: Guitar Info wanted.
Reply-To: daver@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:17:35 GMT

In article <70531@hydra.gatech.EDU> cm9@prism.gatech.EDU (MCKEITHAN,CLIFFORD  
M.) writes:
> >
> >
> 1) I'm looking for a broker dealer or any large music store that might be
>    apt to carry vintage guitars and parts.
> >
> >
> You might try Dixie Guitars, 560 Windy Hill Rd, Smyrna, GA
> 404-436-6642

These guys went out of business after ripping about $40,000 off various
people, including me.  (I lost my Fender Deluxe.)   The owner was denied
his petition for bankruptcy protection because of his dishonesty.

DR
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
From: rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers)
Subject: Re: MESA-Boogie Triaxis Preamp...user opinions?
Keywords: boogie preamp
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:57:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.010342.20650@pony.Ingres.COM> bonobo@Ingres.COM (David Victor) writes:
>I haven't been reading the music newsgroups thoroughly for awhile now, but
>I was wondering if anyone had been able to afford to buy (or lease? ;-) one
>of these units...and if so, what kinds of impressions they had.
>

I second the motion.   I know there are a few of you out there,
and I remember exchanging email with one of you in which you
promised to post a review, so, PAY UP!!   :-)


-----
Robyn
rblanders@math.uwaterloo.ca
	"I'm just doing my rock'n'roll duty." -- Dubois
From: latta@scam.berkeley.edu (Craig R. Latta)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: MUSENET update correction
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:25:40 GMT
Organization: Experimental Computing Facility (XCF)
NNTP-Posting-Host: xcf.berkeley.edu



	Correction: I have received roughly $300 US in investments,
not zero. Many thanks to all the investors so far, and let's keep
those contributions coming for our CD!

	
	Thanks again,

-C

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    Recording Engineer   NetJam, Berkeley                (netjam-request@xcf)
latta@xcf.Berkeley.EDU   Smallmusic OO music project (smallmusic-request@xcf)
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From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Posting lyrics and Copyright violations (was: Yes lyrics)
Date: 12 Oct 1992 01:30:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, gt6851a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian King) says:

>After all, he could evntually figure out the lyrics from the one copy he
>has, or even off the radio, without paying anything extra.  I was merely
>easing the labor.
>
>
>I am also a songwriter. To think that i should force someone to buy two copies
>of my album, just because I left the lyrics off the first one, is absurd.
>

Your stated motivations, though reasonable on the surface, are no defense. If 
you wanted to 'help' and at least pay lip service to the law, you would have
e-mailed the lyric. Instead, you posted it to the public net. If someone decides
to make a test case of you, I hope you have a REAL good lawyer. You're gonna 
need one!

If, indeed, he has purchased the recording and found the lyric sheet missing,
he should return it to the store where purchased and make an exchange, or
contact the record company and request a sheet.

Since you claim to be a songwriter, you should recognise the inherent value in
the lyric, and have respect for the rights of others. After all, copyright
law protects _your_ material as well.
-- 
 Joe Ellis  o/~ The Synthetic Filker o/~    |     TesserAct Studios
     Internet:   usr6184a@tso.uc.edu        |       P.O. Box 18577
        GEnie:   J.ELLIS22                  |     Fairfield, OH 45018
    All filked up and no place to sing!     |   New Dimensions In Filk!
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: elee@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Salty Freckles)
Subject: Re: Yes lyrics!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:22:53 GMT

In article <a05NsB1w165w@midiline.la.ca.us> gpr@midiline.la.ca.us (Gary Richardi) writes:
>since the bars basically pays roytalies anyway. As for lyrics on the net, 
>I think it's an issue regarding the letter vs the spirit of the law. I'm 
>no lawyer, but I'd venture to guess that the 'spirit' of the copyright is 
>to guard against re-publishing for profit, eg. book of Led Zepplin lyrics 
>(hey, didn't they rip those songs off from American bluesmen, anyway?). 
>.flame on
>That's a big problem with this country today. Everyone's so afraid of of 
>getting sued, we're developing into a constipated society!
>.flame off

Agreed totally. It's just sad that whenever law or government comes into play,
all life and humanity is squeezed from whatever's involved. A necessary evil
I guess for being the way we are...

>gpr@midiline.la.ca.us (Gary Richardi) 
>MIDILine BBS (midiline.la.ca.us) - Altadena CA - (818)797-3285

Gene Lee
elee@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Subject: Robin and Ibanez Destroyer opinions wanted
Keywords: Robin Ibanez used guitars
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:09:28 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I came across a couple of interesting used guitars this weekend.
I would appreciate any opinions on acquiring these guitars.

1. Robin:  gold strat body, rosewood neck, reverse inline peghead.
   One DiMarzio humbucker next to the bridge.  Coil tap switch,
   volume and tone controls.  Robin machine heads and whammy bar
   bridge.  Few scrtches on body, neck is clean.  Plays very nicely,
   With gig bag.  I could get it for $200.00.

2. Ibanez Destroyer.  Allegedly owned by Terry Blankenship, one of
   the Crafty Guitarists.  Was told this is the model that Gibson
   sued Ibanez over.  2 humbuckers, 1 toggle switch, three knobs.
   Gold plated hardware.  Has a locking thing above the nut and 
   Kahler bridge. Rosewood neck, seemed real flat.  I could get this
   one for $300.00.  I think it has a hard case.

Comments?

--Rob   spray@convex.com

"What would you rather drive, a brand new Chevy or a Ferrari
 with a few dents in it?"
			 Jeff "Skunk" Baxter, talking about used guitars
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Guitar smells.
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:58:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: pony.1992Oct15.145802.26858
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company

In article <13OCT199211461540@scan2.tamu.edu>, potter@scan2.tamu.edu (SHANE POTTER) writes:
>	Hi there, I have an interesting problem and I hope someone can help
>me with it.
>
>	This last weekend, I played live with a band for the first time, (yes,
>it went very well, thank you), and I ran across an unanticipated occurence.
>Upon returning home, I discovered my guitar smelled horribly like stale 
>cigarette smoke.  For some reason, I never thought this was possible.  Anyway,
>I wish for my guitar to no longer smell like cigarette smoke, so I was wondering
>if anyone else had run across this problem and what they tried to remedy it,
>and what worked.  E-mail if you like, post if you like, I'll post a summary
>of what I get.

You think _you_ got problems... I play, among other things, concertina, an
instrument which resembles a tiny accordion.  Accordion-class instruments
work by sucking air into the interior of their bellows chambers, and
then blowing it out through tiny openings and holes covered with felt
pads.  Playing in smoke-filled environments not only makes them smell
unpleasant, it renders them unplayable in a surprisingly short period
of time.  I don't play in bars too much anymore, praise the Deity, but
when I used to I'd have to strip the concertina down to its bare reed
banks every couple of months and swab things down with alcohol and Q-tips.

The cigarette smell mostly clings to rough surfaces.  Check to see if
your case was affected; if so, try something like an upholstery shampoo
on its interior.  For the guitar itself, get a commercial instrument
cleaning product.  There's one called Fiddlebright that's intended for
violins but would probably work on anything, and there are probably
products meant specifically for guitars that are available at your local
Big Faceless Guitar Chain Store.

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   -__ __ /_   Jon Berger              "If you push something hard enough,
  //_// //_/   jonb@ingres.com          it will fall over."
_/ ---------                              - Fudd's First Law of Opposition
From: ali@cns.nyu.edu (Alan Macaluso)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: test
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:53:47 GMT
Reply-To: ali@cns.nyu.edu
Organization: New York University

this is just a test.  please ignore....
 
adapt
From: bonobo@Ingres.COM (David Victor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: SansAmp:  Opinions and comments
Keywords: sansamp
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:17:58 GMT
Reply-To: bonobo@Ingres.COM (David Victor)
Distribution: na
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <6732@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> jmgst26+@pitt.edu (Joseph M Goodwin) writes:
>I've read nothing but good things about the SansAmp, and I was wondering
>if anyone has anything to say about it?  I'm considering buying one, 
>and would like to hear how people like it.
>

I heard a story about SansAmp second-hand from a friend who is an
engineer for a major studio in the SF Bay Area.  He said that he was
talking to an engineer from another studio who has endorsed SansAmp
in their ads, and he asked the engineer how he liked the SansAmp for
recording.

"It's my secret weapon, man!  I use it for vocals, keys, just about
everything!  It gives a real warm sound that you don't get going
direct...".

"Yes, but how do you like it for recording guitar?"

"...oh, I never use it for guitar...it sounds like crap!!"


Just thought you might be interested, in case you thought from their
ads that SansAmp was *the* answer to recording direct.

-David Victor