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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Commodore Announces Availability of AmigaDOS Release 2.1
Date: 20 Dec 92 01:19:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Dec19.181948.6799
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> Glad I didn't buy it at the local ripoff artist's outrageous price of
> $59 the other day! And people wonder why Amiga dealers are dying... who
> the hell would buy from dealers?


Oh, I dunno.  Paying a whole $10 extra now and then might be worth it to
keep the local dealer afloat.  Be a real hardship, though... of course, it
could be worth it when a little TLC is needed.  Dealers who can compete
against mail order pricing are few and far between on ANY business.  I know
that you didn't specifically mention mail order but when people get on a
tirade about prices, that is often the case.  Fact is, in the latest Amiga
World issue, Briwall advertises the Wb_2.1 software/manual package for $59.
My local dealer is selling it for $49 + sales tax.  Of course, he's out of
stock right now 'cause the 5 he ordered initially went out the door the
first day he had them.  More are on order and should arrive soon.  At $59,
there might have been one left for me.  ;-)


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From: walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann)
Subject: Re: KingFisher Latest Version
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:44:04 GMT

In article <hitch.724350912@cs1.bradley.edu> hitch@cs1.bradley.edu (Douglas Hanna) writes:

> It says to defing the nameindesfile=name.index in the kingfisher.config
                                ^ that should be an 'x'

In addition, you are not specifying a path for the file, which indicates a
harddisk installation (this means the file must be in the current
directory.)  On a floppy disk installation you should specify the entry
to use KingFisher-1:Name.Index -- this may require removing the .doc files
from that volume if you kept them there.

> I do this and it comes up with index problems and says to reindex.

When the record count of Fish.Index (16 bytes each) and the line count in
Name.Index are not equal, KingFisher complains.  You can still make use of
the name search, but the results may not be reliable.

> I reindex, and the settings are saved automatically when I leave (I've
> tried both ways) and when I go look at the .config file that particular
> line is missing.

KingFisher only writes to the .config file information that it knows about.
If this entry is missing then it was missing from the original, too.  My
guess would be a typo.  Find the line 'FishIndexFile=Fish.Index' and model
the 'NameIndexFile=Name.Index' after that one.  One will follow the other
in the .config file when everything is ok.

Another important bit is that you perform the fix to the database, either
by hand or using the FixKFData program supplied with version 1.1 -- without
this fix, the program may continue to experience problems relating to the
Name index.

Please read the documentation -- everything is explained (perhaps with more
words than necessary) in there.

If this does not help, please contact me via email and we'll figure out
what is going on!

 ._.  Udo Schuermann
 ( )  walrus@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: ENHANCEMENTS: C= Please consider this
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:15:27 GMT

In article <1gs9jfINNo6l@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> evermic@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Mickey) writes:
> One feature I do like about the mac operating system, is by holding
> down the option key as you open windows, the last one will close as you open
> a new one.   Pretty handy for going in deep subdirectoris.

Sounds like a reasonably easy patch. Just patch the IDCMP for Workbench
so it sends a CLOSEWINDOW to the most recently open Workbench window when
it sends an ACTIVEWINDOW while the appropriate tool key is held down.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: "carl bannenberg" <carl.bannenberg@canrem.com>
Subject: amiga 1200
Reply-To: "carl bannenberg" <carl.bannenberg@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 19 Dec 92 09:38:49 EST


t92etr@tdb.uu.se (Erik Trulsson) writes...

-> the PCMCIA expansion is 16-bit but there is also a slot on
-> the underside of the computer (just like on the 500) with
-> a 32-bit bus. As for ram-expansion you can have 4MB in
-> the PCMCIA-slot and 4MB in the trapdoor slot.

As I understand it, you can have either 8mb in the trapdoor or 4mb in
the pcmcia and 4 of the 8mb enabled in the trapdoor. A limit of 10mb
regardless (unless your accellerator card has 32mb installed).
--
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart)
Subject: Pioneers Where are they now? 
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:48:55 GMT

For the oldtimers who remember the Amigan Apprentice aand Journeyman did
Dick Barnes get well .

For new timers this was a great journal put out by one dedicated person

I found my complete set in the attic yesterday and got ot wondering?


Keith
From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: DPaint
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:41:24 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Dec15.001648.15784@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> cs4gp6au@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Lockie      RJ) writes:

>	I saw an A4000 today and ran dpaint v4. When I put it in
>640 x 400 mode it was flickering. I expected it to be flicker free.
>Can someone tell my why it flickers.

DPaint IV specifically asks for interlace.  As I understand it, standard
promotion only promotes screens that open via OpenWindow() or don't specify
screen specifics.  If a program opens a window via OpenWindowTags() and 
says that it really wants interlace, it really gets interlace.  I think
there's some way around this anyway, maybe a PD patch for the OpenWindowTags()
function.


-- 
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 "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
		SCIENCE:	"I'll believe it when I see it"  
		RELIGION:	"I'll see it when I believe it"

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: rpowers@panix.com (Richard Powers)
Subject: Re: ENHANCEMENTS: C= Please consider this
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:22:39 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <Bz9rHw.8Ls@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:


>I'm surprised not a lot of people talk about changing AmigaDOS.  It has
>a couple things that would be better off gone (IMO)..

>1) Snapshotting.  It would be much better if the DOS would remember
>where you put things, like the rest of the icon-based DOS's do.  To
>quote a friend of mine, "Snapshot my ass."

I totally disagree with you here.  One thing I hate about using a mac
is that _every_time_ I move an icon anywhere, the new location is
saved to disk.  (Every time I open a window too if I remember
correctly).  What a waste of time.  Is snapshot really that difficult?
_I_ don't think so.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: matija@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik)
Subject: Re: Commodity question
Summary: qualifiers for commodieties
Keywords: commodities, qualifiers
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:05:46 GMT

In article <rschuler.724653094@pv0221.vincent.iastate.edu> rschuler@iastate.edu (Rodney A Schuler) writes:
>In <1992Dec17.070805.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu> taaustin@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>
>>I have been having trouble with the commodity ClickToFront.
>>I have tried starting this by double clicking on the icon
>>and by putting it in the wbstartup and rebooting, neither
>>approach got it to work.  Any ideas what I might be doing
>>wrong?
>
>RTFM (read the FINE manual)
>
>select the ClickToFront icon & press C=I (open amiga & i at same time)  You
>will get the info window for ClickToFront.  You will see some tooltypes
>entires.  One of them will be the qualifier (key one must press while double
>clicking for ClickToFront to do its magic).  Comment it out (I think `(' is
>the comment char, again RTFM), or delete that tooltype.  Now you will not
>have to press any key to ClickToFront.

You can also set 
qualifier=none
it will not be recoginsed and allows you to use it.

Bye
  Matija
>Rodney Schuler
-- 
Best regards from Matija Milostinik           : matija@avalon.physik.unizh.ch
                                              : matija@amiga.physik.unizh.ch
Therefore, use local labels in the procedures as often as possible. 
Save the environment!  Recycle!  ;-)                 (Bjoern Reese)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cs202332@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs202332)
Subject: Postscript drivers.
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:57:55 GMT

Are there any PD postscript drivers available for the Amiga via FTP?
If so where might I find one?

Thanks in advance.  Ari.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kelson@ais.org (David Lewis)
Subject: Re: A4000 Educational Discount UNIX and Networking...
Organization: UMCC
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:18:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.175226.45502@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <Byy9ry.MKJ@dcs.ed.ac.uk>, dcc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Crooke) writes:
>> I have suggested (by e-mail) to Commodore that they consider, as an
>> alternative to an educational discount policy on the A4000, offering a
>> free Amix/X11 licence to any educational purchaser who obtains an A4000
>> through normal channels. I am at the moment torn between the choice of
>
>I may be mistaken but I don't think C= has released a '40 compatable
>Unix yet.  As of yet I have heard nothing of it being or even close to
>being released.
>
>I whole heartedly encourage support for UNIX though.  It will attract
>some of the best programmers available to the platform as it is.

    Our company is about to do a major switch over to UNIX, and if they
were to offer the a4000 with UNIX at a real price we would probably
buy some for a gurantee.  The REAL problem I think they need to focus
on in the UNIX area is the fact that there dealers dont know enough!
we have *1* dealer within about 300 miles (dont know how far past 300
after 300 I stopped looking) that can sell us an amiga with UNIX.  But
the frustrating thing is.. THEY DONT KNOW HOW TO DEMONSTRATE IT..
or even RUN it.. I tried to get a demonstration from there for over
1 year!  it was broke and they couldnt fix it.. or get it to run.  Now
this is Detroit and I KNOW there are a lot of high volume unix machines
sold in this area.  I soley blame that for the failure of Amiga UNIX.
I really hope they do something.. I would like to be able to put them
on our System bids we make.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: "Stefan Berg" <sgberg@blueberry.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Registered for LhA; never got a reply!
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:50:56 -0500

I send in my registration for LhA a couple weeks (months) ago and
have never gotten any reply from Stefan Boberg (that is not me...
my name is Stefan _Berg_... :-)

I also sent him e-mail, but nothing.... can somebody please tell
me if he is still alive and sending out copies of the program?

Thanks,

Stefan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: Snapshotting icons, suggestions for PC disk formatting/handling
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:33:20 GMT

In article <BzC9tq.35u@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose) writes:
>Speaking of PC disks, I don't understand why CrossDOS has to use 2 icons - under
>ADOS3, an options panel is presented when "Format disk..." is selected.  CBM
>could just have a set of disk format datatypes or some other database of said
>formats, and have a listview with all of the available ones in it... ...that way
>you could pick IBM format from the listview just as you would when formatting
>an AmigaDOS disk, and it would be more integrated, transparent to the user, and
>all that good stuff that makes using a GUI worthwhile.

   The problem is left over from AmigaOS 1.3.  CrossDOS was added to AmigaDOS 
as an afterthought.  It has never really been fully integrated into the OS. 
The FastFileSystem did the same thing under 1.3 if you hacked it to use 
floppies.  Under 2.0, Commodore fixed the FastFileSystem so that you do not
get a "good" disk icon and a "bad" disk icon, as you would if you hacked the
FFS to support floppies under 1.3.  But CrossDOS still does the same thing.

   Facilities are "in there" in 2.0 and 3.0 to allow the same devices to
handle multiple formats.  Commodore just needs to modify CrossDOS so that it
supports these facilities.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: WOC Toronto: Amiga's Future
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:24:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.170104.14876@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>>[ Show report]
>>Lou Eggebrecht [...]
>>fascinating man.  He designed the first IBM-PC ...
>
>Could someone please comment on this? I mean no disrespect to
>Mr Eggebrecht, but I thought the first IBM-PC was _bad_. Did
>he really have a hand in it?

I think we're talking nostalgic history here. Opposed to todays
standards *all* computers at that time were bad.


_________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: Minimum Room Temperature for an Amiga
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:29:44 GMT

In <1992Dec12.000751.6340@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:

>> Cold is not anywhere near a problem as heat is.

>In most cases, I agree with that.  Cold can lead to moisture condensation,
>however, and that can be pretty tough on most electronic devices, including
>computers and their peripherals.  Moral: Never breathe on a cold computer!


>        ;-)


>                -=- Ed


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Okay...net sex is out.  No heavy breathing on my Ami... ;>

Crystal
  ;>
(currently not in heat anyway... :> )
From: peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Don't let the Amiga Die (Part II)!!!
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:35:28 GMT

I wrote:
>>>"Multitasking VDM"? Oh, you're running them in a DOS emulator, then.
>>>They're not written for OS/2. Ah, that explains it.

>>>Eventually you will start getting some games written for OS/2, then maybe
>>>you'll be able to do all this nice stuff we've been doing on our Amigas
>>>since late 1985.

Attributions seem to be lost, alas:
Daniel A Stevenson = ">"
I think Paul Prescod = ">>"
>>#1.Most Amiga games CANNOT multitask, with, say a download (which is
>>what we were discussing.

The ones I wrote can. Any competant programmer can do as well, it's not
in the slightest bit hard (for all certain "Bits to the Metal" types
claim). There are any number of other games that do as well.

>>#2.At least a DOS program under OS/2 cannot grab hold of the whole
>>machine, an Amiga program can.

True. So can an OS/2 program under OS/2, and I'll bet you the same bozos
turning out "break the rules" software for the Amiga will do the same for
OS/2. I've even had problems with idiots under UNIX disabling job control
or stealing the whole X or NeWS screen. And what some device drivers do is
pretty rude. And UNIX has a stronger "follow the rules" culture than the
PC world. But at least you'll *start* to get some good ones.

>>#3.If I decide to cancel my terminal communication and run the DOS
>>game alone, it will probably end up being a better game then an Amiga
>>user's wet dream!

I doubt it. The quality of a game is pretty much independent of the level
of technology involved. Super Mario Land on the Game Boy is a much better
game than most of the Hot Games With Ass-Kicking Graphics (tm) I've seen
for any PC, console, or handheld. Somehow, when people get Really Down And
Dirty With The Hardware they forget all about playability.

>#4 You Amigans cannot run MSDOS at all, and threfore cannot run
>such incredible games such as Ultima Underworld and Falcon 3.0.

I'm heartbroken. I've got an Atari 800, an Amiga 1000, and a Mac. I don't
need any more game machines. If I'm playing a game it means I'm taking a
break from real work. You know... the stuff you do to pay the bills.

Actually, I can run DOS on my Amiga, with absolutely zero impact on the
performance of Amiga tasks.

Usenet is like Tetris for people who still know how to read.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: rcj2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (ray.c.jender)
Subject: Re: TypeSMITH announcement
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:00:17 GMT

In article <20054@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> soft-logik@cup.portal.com writes:
>
>-- PRESS RELEASE ---                            December 4, 1992
>
>TYPESMITH - The Professional Amiga Outline Font Editor
>
> .......
>
>TypeSmith can create and edit PostScript, Compugraphic and Soft-Logik
>outline fonts. These three formats are the primary font systems used on
>Amiga computers.
>You can also use TypeSmith to convert fonts between formats. TypeSmith
>
> .......
>
>allows you to open PostScript Type 1, Compugraphic Intellifont and
>Soft-Logik DMF Outline fonts. You can then save the fonts in any of these
>formats, or export the font in PostScript Type 3 format.
>
>.....
>.....
>.....


	What about FC II format? Would be REAL nice to be able to
	convert the above to the format that FC uses.....
From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Commodore Announces Availability of AmigaDOS Release 2.1
Date: 19 Dec 1992 10:23:07 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

In article <ygp25c#@rpi.edu> danaf@rpi.edu writes:
:In article <20303@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West - CATS) writes:
:|> Commodore Announces the Availability of AmigaDOS Release 2.1
:
:[...]
:
:|> Current Amiga owners using V2.0X of the operating system can purchase
:|> the AmigaDOS Release 2.1 Upgrade Kit for a Manufacturer's Suggested
:|> Retail Price (MSRP) of $49.00. The kit includes six software disks and a
:
:Christ! Glad I didn't buy it at the local ripoff artist's outrageous price of
:$59 the other day! And people wonder why Amiga dealers are dying... who the 
:hell would buy from dealers?

I would.  My local dealer is selling it for around $45.

:|> --
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From: shogun@tension.UUCP (Jay Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Don't let the Amiga Die (Part II)!!!
Date: 18 Dec 92 09:57:27 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

In article <BzFJ12.597@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>,
papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
>>Well, 8M of RAM by itself costs about as much as an Amiga that can multitask
>>games while downloading. I used to play "Tracers" while downloading on my
>>512K Amiga 1000.
>
>Show me an Amiga for $370.00 US new.
>
        Waldensoftware has A600s for $349.00 us new!
                        Jay Brown

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: cs4gp6au@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Lockie      RJ)
Subject: amiga 1200
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:04:17 GMT

	I was just looking at an Amiga 1200 today. Unfortunately
I couldn't change the WB screen to 800 x 600 mode. I couldn't
find it in the preferences. The salesman (an idiot) tried to tell
me that only the A4000 supports this mode because it's 'high end'.
Anyone care to comment on this? Since I only have one dealer in
my area I will be travelling 1/2 hour to a (hopefully) more
informed salesman.

	I'd also like to know if the PCMCIA card ram expansion
is 16 or 32 bit ram? That's what they're selling but I have heard
of a 'local bus' fast ram expansion from Microbotics that is
definitely 32 bit. I'd want 32 bit, so comments?