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From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: GIF -> IFF and viseversa
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:19:37 GMT
Organization: Max Planck Institut fuer Radioastronomie

In <56755@cup.portal.com> blackbelt@cup.portal.com (Ben - Williams) writes:
>Fair's fair - and while PD/shareware is fine (I've authored both,
>as well as freeware) there is often a place for a commercial product. As
>far as this discussion goes, the quality of the images is at issue,
>and there is no way that the PD wares compare with the commercial ones
>available at this time - and _there_ is the reason for purchasing them.

Could you be more explicit ? I don't argue the value of commercial software
as it comes to user support and usability. But unless the commercial software
uses some secret or patented techniques it can't generally produce better
'results' than PD software and in the case of ADPro I strongly doubt that
it does more than the widely available PD image processing tools.

Regards,
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: aktan@rodan.acs.syr.edu (My name is Andre...)
Subject: Re: Imagine 2.0 question
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 00:13:26 EDT

In article <tomme.702560705@bern.docs.uu.se> tomme@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Thomas Holmstr|m) writes:
>  dbkaul@rodan.acs.syr.edu (david B Kaul) writes:
>  >In article <1992Apr1.155137.1036@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>  >>	I also try to move the object with the cursor keys. But when there
>  >>are more than one object on the screen, all of them move with the cursor keys!
>  >>What gives? It must be some kind of serious bug...
>  >Well, it certainly would have been benificial to you if you had even BOUGHT
>  >the software.  I believe that you would have somehow been able to figure out
>  >after two months of using the software how to do a simple translation! 
>  >However seeing that it is very unlikely that you have ever seen a REAL copy
>  >of the actual manual, I suppose I understand.
>  >>
>  >>	And the same goes for sizing an object. When I zoom in everything gets
>  >>bigger, including the grid! How do I get an update or something? Can somebody
>  >>send me a working copy on disk? I will pay shipping costs.
>  >Are you SERIOUS?!?!? Do you believe that people are stupid enough to actually
>  >copy the software for you, after spending our own money PAYING for the software?
>  >>
>  >>	This program has some SERIOUS bugs. I thought Impulse was a good
>  >>company. I tried calling them for a bug fixes but they gave me some crap
>  >>about sending them the original disks back.
>  >>
>  [Proper flame deleted]
>  >Dave
>
>
>	Maby this guy (that's D. Tiberio, of course) don't really know how serious
>a crime software theft is? This guy has to have a account for Internet, since he
>wrote, right? And it's supplied by *Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY*, right ?
>So what if Syracuse University found out they are having a PIRATE in their system?
>Rather serious matter, I think.	Just a thought :-(.
>

Nononono... look at the header.. The orginal poster was at SUNY Stonybrook.
Not Syracuse University...         

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From: pignon@aurora.unice.fr (PIGNON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Pix
Date: 17 Apr 92 08:28:08 GMT
Organization: University of Nice - Sophia Antipolis

Hi!
Please,could anybody tell me where I could find a program to convert 
Gif files to MacroPaint files ?
Thank you.
 				pignon@aurora.unice.fr
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:50:49 -0400 
From: Carl Loeffler <cel+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: CDTV

 
_______________________________________________
CDTV ART PROJECT 
 
Presently a search is underway to locate innovative approaches for  the
~CDTV ART PROJECT,~ a showcase for Amiga CDTV works.  
 
Organized by Carl Eugene Loeffler and Robert Edgar, the project will 
produce of a limited run CD, to be exhibited internationally at select
Art Museums, and New Media Festivals.  
 
The categories of solicited works consist of the following:
 
* 2-D Animations.
* 3-D Animations.
* MIDI Compositions.
* Interactive Disc and Video Works.
* Virtual Reality Applications.
 
The basic requirement, is that the work be able to run on a standard
CDTV platform: Amiga 500 with 1 MB RAM (chip).
 
Deadline for submissions, August 1, 1992.
 
Forward works on sample disc to:
Carl Eugene Loeffler
Executive Director
Art Com
POB-193123 Rincon Annex
San Francisco, California
94119-3123
TEL: (415) 431-7524
FAX: (415) 431-7841
EMAIL: artcomtv@well.sf.ca.us
__________________________________________________
 
 
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Rendering/Raytracing
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:40:13 GMT

kholland@hydra.unm.edu (Kiernan Holland) writes:
>However, if you want to do really neat stuff, Amiga's just don't 
>have the capabilities, not even at 320x400 or DCTV resolutions. 

DCTV is not the only graphics upgrade for the Amiga.  I would think that
the DMI Resolver would be excellent for animations.  Of course, if you
want to get really fancy, there is always the Toaster.  Does anyone have
a Resolver yet, by the way?

Where can I get that PD renderer that you mentioned for the Mac?  I would
like to try it at work.

-- Gerald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: menzies@CAM.ORG (Stephen Menzies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Special for US clubs/developers
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:03:06 GMT
Organization: Altitude, St-Lambert QC  CANADA

menzies@CAM.ORG (Stephen Menzies) writes:

>David_Braun@panam.wimsey.bc.ca (David Braun) writes:

>>In a message dated Wed  8 Apr 92 09:37, Menzies@cam.org (stephen Menzies)
>>wrote:

>> MM> -----------------------start of forwarded message---------------------
>>
>>
>> MM> To show them our appreciation and support we are presenting to all
>> MM> club members and to all registered developers in the United States...
>>                                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
>>                                                   ||||||||||||||||||||


>>[deleted]
>>the US but now one of our own companies offers a special deal to American
>>club members and developers with *no* mention in the posting of a similar
>>offer to club members or developers in their own back yard :-(

>Not quite. RCS made a similar offer here in Quebec over the last couple
>of months (not sure of the exact dates but it finished March31). I know
>this still won't please you. It's only meant as a clarification.
>	
>-stephen

Just a little addition. RCS informs me that if there are any club members/
developers that have questions/concerns regarding whether or not this
offer or a similar deal will be offered to those *outside*  the US at 
some future date, to contact RCS directly:
Tel#514-871-4924
Fax#871-4926
	
Finally, RCS informs me that any *US* resident who is a member of a 
Amiga mailing list (imagine,dctv, lightwave...) and that list has and
maintains a membership list, and the member can prove their membership,
and the member is a US resident is also eligible for the offer.

Please not that I am not an employee of RCS or any of the companies
mentioned in the offer. I only wish to make sure that ALL Amiga user
groups (US, that is) are informed of the offer as the savings are
significant, and that everyone eligible has equal oppourtunity.     
	
I am not nor ever have been an employee of an of the companies in the
offer and will accept *NO* responsibility whatsoever.

-stephen
>-- 
>Stephen Menzies
>#Internet: menzies@CAM.ORG
>#Fidonet : Stephen Menzies @ 1:167/265
-- 
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#Internet: menzies@CAM.ORG
#Fidonet : Stephen Menzies @ 1:167/265
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos)
Subject: Re: Michael Jackson Morphing...
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 06:21:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington) writes:
>True.  I read in a video review magazine that the time-travel effect in
>"Terminator 2" cost $100k per second to produce.  I believe they used
>real electrical effects rather than computer imagery, though (or the two
>together).

Tesla coils were used on the set to produce most of the electrical
effects, with some additional layers superimposed to "thicken" the
effect.

Can't vouch for the $100k p/s but it sounds typical. The budget for the
movie was horrendous, but it's all up there on the screen. Even the
"measly" amount i earned is up there, even though it's only in the
soundtrack....  %^)

-- 
paul theodoropoulos                                         damiel@netcom.COM
From: menzies@CAM.ORG (Stephen Menzies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: UPDATE on RCS Fusion Forty offer
Summary: This is an update on the RCS offer
Keywords: RCS, Update, Fusion40
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:09:42 GMT
Organization: Altitude, St-Lambert QC  CANADA


This is a forwarded message direct from RCS Management regarding
their special offer on the Fusion40 board and the subject of US
club membership (clarification):

--------------------start of forwarded message (summary)-----------

Members (anywhere) of clubs BASED in the United States ARE eligible
for the special offer. This includeds clubs such as Victor Osaka's
(formerly TurboSig) 3D club etc.., special electronic mailling
lists (ie: Imagine, DCTV, Lightwave etc..) or any other "club" whose
headquarters, base machine.., are located in the US.

The "club" must maintain a membership list and the "member" must be
able to prove his/her membership.


--------------------------end of forwarded message----------------

The problem became readily apparent when RCS started to receive a lot
of calls from "members" outside of the US and in fairness to all, phoned
me with this clarification.

If there are any questions, please, either phone/fax RCS directly or
leave a message in this newsgroup/mailing list if it would appear
to be of interest to many. Please do NOT send me e-mail (if possible).

RCS : voice# 514-871-4924
        fax# 514-871-4926



Thankyou..

-stephen

-- 
Stephen Menzies
#Internet: menzies@CAM.ORG
#Fidonet : Stephen Menzies @ 1:167/265
From: blackbelt@cup.portal.com (Ben - Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Imagemaster (was Re: need advice on ultimate Amiga system)
Date: 9 Apr 92 05:23:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: cup.57119
  <1992Apr8.192152.15331@cbnews.cb.att.com>
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Richard M. Brack,

No - Imagemaster is available only on the Amiga.

Ben
From: blackbelt@cup.portal.com (Ben - Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Imagemaster Impressions
Date: 6 Apr 92 04:40:18 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

James Hastings-Trew,

You want to have the panel in interlace <bemused look> Uh, that's easy to
do. We'll put a control for it in the next release.
Howz that for service? <grin>

Seriously, never thought of it, no one asked (until now).

Hmmm.

Ben
From: James_Hastings-Trew@telepro.UUCP (James Hastings-Trew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Scenery Animator or VistoPro????
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:27:07 GMT
Organization: TelePro Technologies

In a message dated Sun 12 Apr 92 12:37, Rvmst1@gl.pitt.edu (rainer V Mager)
wrote:

 RVM> Hi,
 RVM>  Well, the Subject just about says it, which is better?  I know
 RVM> that they both can do great still pics, but which one does _better_
 RVM> stills?  I would assume that VistaPro does (otherwise everyone would
 RVM> get
 RVM> scenery), but I also want to do some animations.  Is there any word
 RVM> that

Hmm. A tough call. Vista Pro produces better looking images with more
colour and depth to them. On the other hand, Scenery Animator uses a
different method to calculate the landscape surface, so it NEVER produces a
polygon looking landscape, even right up close to the "camera." VistaPro
landscapes can be smoothed to eliminate polygons, but it generally makes
the landscape blurry and less realistic, in my opinion. I also like Scenery
Animators animation tools better.

All in all, I find SceneryAnimator to be a more "satisfying" program, as it
needs less tweaking and fussing to get things right. VistaPro can produce
some amazing results, but requires a lot more care and attention. If you
are looking for a production tool to make quick landscape flyovers in
animations, or backgrounds, get Scenery Animator. If you are looking to
create some gorgeous images and have time to putz around, get VistaPro.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.991
From: menzies@CAM.ORG (Stephen Menzies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Question for BlackBelt
Summary: Please clarify your line of products
Keywords: IP, IM, ImageMAster
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:18:41 GMT
Organization: Altitude, St-Lambert QC  CANADA

Black Belt,
	
There has been much discussion regarding your IP/IM softwares in the
last 2 weeks. Could you briefly clarify what the differences are 
between one version and another. I am aware of 3 versions: IP, IM and
IMFC. I can guess that IMFC works with the Firecracker24. Does this
mean we work directly with the board, or is the result sent to the board?
              
-stephen
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#Internet: menzies@CAM.ORG
#Fidonet : Stephen Menzies @ 1:167/265
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: markb@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Mark B.)
Subject: Re: BYTE Multimedia Stuff
Keywords: Toaster, BYTE, Slagging, Seen it?
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 02:45:00 GMT


The article was written in BYTE. Say no more.

-Mark
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From: dewolfe@ug.cs.dal.ca (Anarchy for Peace)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: I'd like to get into ray-tracing, SO:
Date: 12 Apr 92 08:22:55 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <1992Apr12.003030.17724@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> sah@gnu.ai.mit.edu writes:
>
> ..A few questions.
>
>1) I can't afford Imagine or Caligari.  I'm looking for a somewhat decent
>PD ray-tracer.  I tried Rayshade, but it has NO interface, it's all complex

Yeah, I know.  I ported it.  However, most of the animators I know do 
technical animations for their industrial clients, so they like it
this way.  Chacun son gout.

>crap. :)  I'd like one that has a nice interface with menus and a display of
>X, Y, and Z views, etc. etc.  Kind of like the Real3DDemo on ab20, but with
>more documentation.  (BTW, I don't want a demo ray-tracer.  I'd like to be able
>to save my work)
>
>2) Also, how does one produce ray-traced animatoins?  Does Imagine do this, or
>do you have to use a separate program?

Rayshade has animation support (version 4.0.6, my port) but you need some
knowledge of mathematics (geom and trig) for it to be useful.  If you have
enough patience and a will to learn, Rayshade can do some incredible stuff.


>
>3) Does this machine set up sound ideal for making really nice ray-traced
>pics and anims?: A3000, 25MHz, 2M CHIP, 4M FAST, 68030, not sure about math
>co-proc.

Should be fine.  I ported rayshade on such a machine (the one I am using to type
this message) and is what I used to render all the test images supplied.  It's
pretty hard to not get a 3000 without a math co, they're soldered to the 
motherboard. :-)


As a side note,  (I know this has been already hashed over) raytracing is
not a very economical way of producing animations.  Most of the animimations
I do and all my colleagues do are solid modelled, unless there is very little
in the way of complex stuff in it.  I have been using SIPP (a C library) for
this and algorithmically generating all the scenes.  This is a programmer's
scanline renderer, however this summer, I  might actually build a user
interface for it (not graphical, but like rayshade, an rendering engine).

Colin DeWolfe
dewolfe@ug.cs.dal.ca

P.S.  And you thought Rayshade 4.0.6 was a pig?  You should see SIPP.

>
>Please reply via e-mail.  --> sah@gnu.ai.mit.edu
>Thanks.
>
From: blackbelt@cup.portal.com (Ben - Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Imagemaster / HAM-E device
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:02:11 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Gerald G Washington,

The idea is being examined here. No decision has been made as of yet.

Ben
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala)
Subject: Re: Imagine 2.0 question
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 12:20:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.195230.91@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> rcj2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (ray.c.jender) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.180004.23996@sbcs.sunysb.edu> dtiberio@csws7.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:
>>
>>	I dare you and anyone else to email Syracuse University and
>>try to get me kicked off. They won't do it. They don't care about
>>piracy; all they care about is the tuition I pay them...$16000 every
>>year. So what if Imagine costs $200? There is an 80:1 ratio in the
>>differnce.
>
>	Dave, Dave, Dave.....if you can pay $16K/Yr for tuition,
>	what's a measly $200.00 for a fine piece of software???
>
>
>>	I am not afraid of Syracuse. I am graduating soon and have
>>paid my tuition and have earned my grades. If I decide to pirate
>>any software, that is between ME and the SOFTWARE COMPANY. Not
>>Syracuse.
>>
>
>	Whoopdy-do.... You sound like some spoiled brat.....
>
>	Sure Syracuse could care less...but Impulse? That's another
>	story.... If I were an owner of Impulse, I'd be dialing
>	our law department right now.....
>
>>	And that is why I am confident enough to post any message
>>I want to this and any newsgroup. Have a nice day. :)
>>
>>
>	I would'nt be so confident if I were you....
>	You have a nice day too...:-)
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>      //   David Tiberio  SUNY Stony Brook 2-3662  AMIGA  DDD-MEN   
>>     //  Not the llama! Come here Earl; I want to tell you something...
>>   \X/		Liverpool, New York	    Yes, I like 3D.	
>
>
>
>	Now, let's get this shit out of graphics.....


  He doesn't go to Syracuse, that's why he doesn't care.  The
  original article is dated April 1, 1992.  Don't bother following-up
  on this.  April 1 is a week ago!

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White Plains, NY 10462       AMIGA RULES!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: hicksjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (James L. Hicks)
Subject: Re: 24bit pics.
Keywords: 24-bit, flipping screens
Reply-To: hicksjl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (James L. Hicks)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:07:58 GMT

In article <James_Hastings-Trew.0f0k@telepro.UUCP>  
James_Hastings-Trew@telepro.UUCP (James Hastings-Trew) writes:
> A local fellow by the name of Brian Fehdrau wrote a little utility for  
me
> called FLEW. What FLEW did was to load up a series of 3 RAW files - one
> file each for R, G, and B. You told FLEW what kind of display you  
wanted,
> and what the dimensions of the RAW format picture were, and it would  
create
> 3 screens and load in the picture data into each appropriate screen -  
one
> for the red data, one for the green, and one for the blue. Then it would
> flicker the screens as fast as possible. The result was a pseudo 12 bit
> display, in high-res even, but the flickering was so bad that it could
> induce epilepsy (just kidding, more like a real bad headache.) It DID  
work
> though - you could see a complete 12 bit palette through the tears. :)

I tried the same thing once...the results were quite icky with R, G, and B  
files.  However, I did get semi-decent results when I tried it with just  
blue and yellow separations.

James
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NeXT Campus Consultant                          Phone: 812-877-8728
Rose-Hulman Institute of Tech.    Voice Mail: 415-366-0900 Ex. 5571
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: sheasby@dgp.toronto.edu (Michael Sheasby)
Subject: Re: RCS Fusion Forty Offer (was RE: Special for US clubs/developers)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:15:57 GMT

I went for the deal with RCS, and was REALLY pleased with
the results. I'm running a toaster with the 040, and the speed
increases are INCREDIBLE... my fave statistic relates to an
18-hour rendering that took 16 minutes under the 040. seriously.

You'll have problems with 2.04, I've found... I've had no end
of problems getting my Syquest to work correctly (ejecting
disks under the 040 guarentees a crash)... this should all be
fixed shortly. I've received a new setpatch which has helped
with some things, but I'm still having problems. Copyback is
also a problem (for me, at least)... I can't leave it on all
the time (sporadic crashes) or turn it on even after entering
certaing programs (instant crash.. ie DOpus)

I'm using a Trumpcard Pro. Some new ROMs should sort out most of
the troubles I'm having.

Don't worry AT ALL about dealing with RCS.. they've called ME
on several occasions to sort out problems I've been having, and
went so far as to contact my dealer, buy the controller I had
bought on their recommendation and replace it with a more
compatible one (This won't happen again, it was strictly a
once-off deal to keep me a satisfied customer so don't go
asking them to do it for you! :)

---Mike.
.
From: rvmst1@gl.pitt.edu (Rainer V Mager)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Scenery Animator or VistoPro????
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:45:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: blue.1281
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Hi,
	Well, the Subject just about says it, which is better?  I know
that they both can do great still pics, but which one does _better_
stills?  I would assume that VistaPro does (otherwise everyone would get
scenery), but I also want to do some animations.  Is there any word that
VistaPro might get into anims at any time?  Is there any easy way to
anim with VistaPro?  Oh, BTW I really don't need to be able to save the
pic as a 3-d file, so that isn't too much of a concern, though at a
later time it might be nice.  So, if you have any, any info would be
appreciated.

	I have an unaccelerated A500 with 4.5M ram and a HD, so I should
be ok with either (though an accelerator would be nice, I know).

Rainer