From: narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana)
Subject: Telugu Culture Net Digest 43
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:28:38 GMT

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 13:31:33 EDT
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World Telugu People Network Thu, 20 Aug 92       Volume 1 : Issue  43 

Today's Topics:

      Alankaras II (2 msgs)
      Castes and Flames
      Krishnashtami..
      No Flames Intended Please!
      Peda vidhyrthulaku cheyoota nichche BREAD
      Sending Money to India (2 msgs)
      TELUGUs and their PUTTU-PUURVOTTARAs (fwd)

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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:02:08 -0500
From: kalasapu@aecom.yu.edu
Subject: Alankaras II

A L A N K A R A M U L U  - II - Srinivasa Rao K. 

3 & 4
       Godari gattundi 
       Gattumeena Chettundi 
       Chettukommana Pittundi      (  Dasarathi - Moogamansulu )

      3. Take a subject ( Gattu ) and leave it, take another  ( Chettu )
and leave that also and continue. 

      This alankaram is called AKAVALI ( First  'A' as in atom ) 

  At the same time this song has another alankaram too, in it!

     4. Here, the last word of the first line ( Gattu ) is taken to begin
the second line and so on .  

      This alankaram is called MUKTAPADAGRASTHAM. ( mukta pada grastham ) 

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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 15:28:45 CDT
From: auro@pine.ece.utexas.edu (Srinivasa V. Chakravarthy)
Subject: Alankaras II

Here are a few instances of some common alankarams. Quoting
from whatever little i got from the school days. (After all,
didnt Shaw say, 'real education starts after one gets out of 
school'?) Can someone figure out what alankarams are
they instances of?

padhO klAsu:
1) kaththulato kuthuthukala nuththarinchina nuththamoththamundu...

2) sudhatee noothana madhanA
   madhanAga thuranga maNimaya sadhanA
   sadhanAmaya gajaradhanA
   radhanagendra ...  

3) paramAthmu narchinchu karamulu karamulu
   lokeshu keerthinchu jihva jihva  (?)

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Poetry:
4) " ... kunjara yoodhambu dhOma kuththuka jochchen".
			Tenali Ramakrishna
5) " MuraLi pATaku ragili 'marugunee vennelalu'
     segayu nA yedha kaela thagani soukhya jwAla?"
			- Devulapalli (anukuntanu)
6)  "anavini vretuvadda yuragAnganayambale
      neyivoya bhagguna darigonna bheeshaNa huthAshana
     keela yananga lechi hechchina kanudoyi kempu thana 
    chekkulakumkuma pathrabhanga sanjanitha naveena kAnthi
      vedhajallaga ..."
		- PaArijAtApaharaNamu.
     (indhulo 'okato thombhaiyyo' alankArAlunnai. lagandi baitaku.)
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ChitrahAr
7) " achcheruvuna achcheruvuna vichchina kannula jooda..."
   " ...ArAdha ArAdhanA geethi..."
	These lines from a song in 'Sapthapadhi' have already
appeared in some of the early digests. Thought it might be
  worth re-presenting them in this context.
8) " mandhagamanam choosi gajalakshmi vanukunti
     mouna hAsam choosi poobONi vanukunti"
	-- 'kanTa nalusu paDi kannu koTTithi' ane rasavaththaramaina
	 pATa nunchi. Cinema peru gurthuledu.
9) " AkASa pandhiri lo, neeku nAku peLLanTa
     nakshatale peranTandru, devathale purOhithulanTa..."
		-Rajeswarivilas kafee club"

Manavi:
K. Srinivasa Rao garu,
  Hope you will be able to crack all of these. 
  "chaka chakA secretul nuv veliki lAga
   ee navaratnamul 'net'tukalankAramul kAga" lavani talusthoo,
-SC.

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Date: 19 Aug 1992 18:13:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: VPRASAD@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Subject: Castes and Flames

vemagant@nas.nasa.gov (Dr. Gururaja R. Vemaganti) writes:

>              Please avoid mentioning or bringing caste into our
>telugu digest.  Already in almost all the major towns and cities
>all over the U.S. telugu people are divided based on their castes.
>Telugu organization is already split at the national level. Let us
>stay united and stick to the telugu net.  It is my sicere and humble
>request.  Thank you.

	As the writer of the piece you are objecting to, I feel that I have
	to respond to this. I did not take any offense about your statement.
	But Dr. Vemaganti garu, I was only replying to a question of whether 
        or not people who share the same surname but are unrelated (as they 
        know it) may intermarry. In that context, I explained the gothram 
        nomenclature, how lastnames are formed, their significance etc. 
        Caste, which I do not like to speak about, may enter into
	such a discussion. Many (not majority) of the surnames are 
        caste-dependent. In mentioning the caste, I am only being objective
        about it (atleast, I thought so). I am certainly  on your side 
        regarding the caste issue, and am as much against the division of 
        TANA into TANA and ATA. But being politically correct about this 
        issue may only push it under the carpet than solve it. 
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 22:53:42 PDT
From: from Madhu of ICP  20-Aug-1992 1106 <madhu@qcav01.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Krishnashtami..

From: Capt Madhu <madhu@qcav01.enet.dec.com>

Krishanashtami andi--20 Aug 92 and 21 Aug (Ashtami & Rohini)
Also called Gokulashtami, Janmashtami in some areas.

Repallelo puttina, Telugu variki, tama mungitilone puttinnantaga
Telugu kavyalu Krishnuni gurinchi varninchayi.

"Tinte Neti garelu tinaali, vinte Bhagavatam vinaali" ani
oorike analedu.

Oho Mohanaroopa, Keli Kalaapa, Krishna ninu kani 
murisenu naa manase !! (Remember this song..)

Kuchela - Krishnula  	"Sneham"
Radha - Madhava    	"Pranayam"
Krishna -  Arjunala   	"Bandhavyam"

Marachipogalama ? Avi prateekalu.

"Paatakulandariki Subhakankshalu"

For those, who lost touch, 31 Aug 92 is "Vinayaka Chavithi"

Let me end by reminding you the song in Raag "Chakravaakam"
from the film "Tulabharam" (Chalam, Sarada)

Raadhaku neevera Pranam, Radha Hridayam, Madhava Nilayam
Premaku Devalayam !!

Untanu Mari	Madhu.

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Date: 19 Aug 1992 18:13:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: VPRASAD@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Subject: No Flames Intended Please!

JUBV writes:

>Hi Friends,
>
>Sometime back, I have seen some postings in the digest which say that
>the scope of the Telugu digest is limited and some articles like Inti Perlu
>should not discussed in this net and those things are related to some other
>issues.
>

	I think you are referring to my article. Looks like my 
	article got "Bhaskar" garu blazing like a sun (got the pun? :-) ).

	JUBV garu, I have not attempted to define the scope of this network. 
	All I said was that instead of limiting the discussion to Telugu 
        people, you can post your message on SCI and also request the response 
        from a wider audience from there. 

        The naming of children after the bloodline of only the father, is 
        not particular to Telugus; so I felt that your scheme has relevance 
        to Telugus as well as to all Indians. To be true, it has relevance to 
        the entire world. So, I requested you to carry the discussion 
        on SCI too. I have said that a scheme similar to the one proposed
        by you  has already been discussed on another forum (soc.feminism) 
        and requested you to take a look at those discussions too. 

	Siva Prasad				vprasad@uoft02.utoledo.edu

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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 13:52 CDT
From: CERMVAS@engvms.unl.edu
Subject: Peda vidhyrthulaku cheyoota nichche BREAD

WTPN paataka mahasayulaku oka prakatana

		BREAD/NORTH SOUTH FOUNDATION

	NORTH SOUTH FOUNDATION was incorporated in 1989 as a not-for-
profit and tax exempt entity in Illinois.  To implement its programs 
a sister organization, BREAD (Basic Research, Education and Development
society) was also incorporated in  India.  This society awards scholarships
for meritorious but needy, students in India.  To gain experience as well 
as to better assess the resource requirements, Andhra Pradesh was chosen as 
a pilot.

	BREAD invites applications for scholarships from the students who
are among the top ten in district, or achieve 95% or above rank in 
intermediate, or among top 500 in EAMCET (Medicine), or among top 600 in
EAMCET (Engg), or among top 600 in polytechnic entrance exam, and whose
annual family income less than Rs. 10,000.  BREAD awards scholarships to 
all those qualified students to help them to continue their higher education.

	In the year 1990, eight scholarships were awarded and in 1991, 
another thirty new scholarships were awarded.  BREAD would like to give
another 30 new scholarships this year in addition to the renewals of old
scholarships. (These scholrships can be renewed by demonstrating continued
academic excellence by the students in their further studies).  To achieve 
this goal, BREAD needs your help in the form of contributions, or pledges, 
or volunteering.

	To raise funds, North South Foundation in Illinois is organizing
WALK-A-THON on Sep 13th in Du Page County, IL.  NSF is inviting all of you 
to participate in this to help needy students in India.  Those who wants
to help to NSF Society can send their contributions to the follwing
address.
		North South Foundation
		2 Marissa Court
		Burr Ridge, IL 60521

	Those who are interested in knowing more about NSF/BREAD can
call Dr. Ratnam Chitturi at 708-323-1966  or write to the above address.

**************************************************************************
			one dollar club
there are nearly one million in the US of Indian origin. If each one
contributes a dollar, more than 7000 scholarships can be given.
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					Srinivas Sirigina
					(cermvas@engvms.unl.edu)

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Date: 19 Aug 1992 18:13:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: VPRASAD@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Subject: Sending Money to India

chakri@ichips.intel.com writes:

>Did any of you had similar experience?? Do you have a better
>idea for transfering money quicker?? What ever happend to me is not the
>same with other banks??

	The reason that they don't encash the cashier's check immediately is
	that there are no branches in India of that particular bank to give
	the money to the Indian bank immediately. What happened to you is not
	peculiar; it will happen to anyone.

	Personal checks take about a month to encash; I have been sending
	personal checks for the past 2 years to my parents. I find this to be
	the cheapest (in terms of commission to the banks) way to send money
	to India. the commission is usually Rs.40 or 0.25% of the total money
	realized, whichever is greater (atleast, that was the case with State
	bank of Hyderabad, Gunfoundry Branch in Hyderabad). Contrast this with
	$6 commission NewYork branch of SBI charges for making a rupee draft.

	I came to know that some local banks give you *free* American Express
	cashier's checks in some states. If your bank is one such, take one
	cashier's check for the required dollar amount and send it to India.
	Almost all the (Indian) banks honor AMEX checks, and your party in 
	India can get the money almost over the counter on the same day. This
	was suggested on SCI, but my bank doesn't give free AMEX checks, so I 
	don't vouch for its veracity.

	I am posting this on the net instead of Email since I thought it would
	be of use to other people too. Chakri garu, if you post this on SCI,
	you might get to know other cheaper and quicker ways of transferring
	money to India. Just a suggestion, and hope that I am of some help to
	you.

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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 22:19:53 -0500
From: achanta@ecn.purdue.edu (Achanta )
Subject: Sending Money to India

This is in reply to someone's enquiry on sending money to India. I did send
quite a bit of money to India. Most of the time I used personal checks. My
father did not have any problem in encashing them. He used to get the
money on the same day. If it is of any help, let me mention that he's
got an account at the SBI. I guess this issue is a bit `subjective' in the
sense that if the bank people know the person encashing the check personally,
they don't create any problems. 
Another mode of sending money is thru' American Express Money Orders. They
cost some money(about $0.50). They can be encashed immediately at any bank
(atleast SBI). If the money order is lost in transit, you can always claim
your money back.
Hope this info helps,
Regards,
Srinivas Achanta

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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:14:12 EDT
From: suresh <yesac!suresh>
Subject: TELUGUs and their PUTTU-PUURVOTTARAs (fwd)

Mithrulara !  

   I was a bit surprised to find that origin of Andhras goes back up to
the ages of Rama and Krishna. Well there was lot of research that was going 
on to confirm whether the DHANDAKARANYA area where RAMA spent 12 years of his 
VANAVASA is the present AP or not. The latest evidence of Andhra history to
my knowledge goes back to MAHABHARATA period. During the days of KRISHNA
Andhras were famous for wrestling (malla yudha). For those who can recollect
the story of BHAGAVATA (Krishna's childhood) the wrestlers whom KAMSA appointed
to kill KRISHNA were from ANDHRA. They are  CHAANUURA and MUSHTIKA.  The next 
evidence of Andhras dates back to the MAHABHARATHA war. Well guess whom 
Andhras sided with in that war? Unfortunately with Duryodhana (KAURAVAS).

After that Andhras had been shattered and then ruled by many rulers. Then comes
the golden era to the Telugu culture during the period of SATHAVAHANAS. In a way
we can say that SATHAVAHANAS were the first Andhra rulers. During their period
Andhras were the most powerful rulers in the INDIAN sub continent. During the
period of Sathavahanas  Andhras established trade links with Egypt, Greece,
etc. During their period Andhras captured UJJAIN, PRATHISTHAN (Paithan), 
Kalinga (Orissa) and conquered the LAND-IN-BETWEEN-THE-THREE-OCEANS
( Tri-SAMUDRADHIPATI) (200 B.C.). This was the period of KATHASARITSAGAR
(Bhrihat Katha), GAADHA-SAPTA-SATHI.

  If some body could add more to this Andhra history, it would more interesting.

-Mudigonda Indu Shekhar

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