HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: s892011@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Mr.Scary)
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: Re: hello for sale
Date: 18 Aug 92 00:47:16 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

kchong@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Kelvin Chong) writes:

>i have a hello for sale

>price : negotiable

>bye

Hi Kelvin.

  I don't have a hello, but I do have a "Hi" (see above).  Is it worth my
while upgrading to a hello ?  What colour is it ? 

Thanks,

Mr.Scary (Gary Chapman)
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s892011@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
From: u1056905@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
Subject: plane ticket to Thailand.
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:41:36 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

I am posting this for a friend, so please don't correspond to me, unless
you are unable to reach her.


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One-way ticket to Thailand.

	$300

Please call:	(02) 371-0803     OR     (02) 371-6077


Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: John Quiggin <jxq302@coombs.anu.edu.au>
Subject: Syquest drive + 8x44Mb cartridges
Organization: ANU
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 03:54:36 GMT

FOR SALE: Syquest 44 Mb Cartridge drive + 8x44 Mb Cartridges. 350 MB of
fast (<30 ms) storage for $1200. Cables, drivers + lots of free PD
software (for Mac) included. $1200
Also Mac Keyboard with  numeric keypad $70.
Newsgroups: aus.forsale
From: kchong@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Kelvin Chong)
Subject: hello for sale
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:36:47 GMT

i have a hello for sale

price : negotiable

bye

Xref: sparky aus.news:114 aus.education:101
From: symmondsac@brt.deakin.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.news,aus.education
Subject: New Group:  Recognition of Prior Learning
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:50:23 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Melbourne


There is a growing recognition in Australia and overseas by industry as well as
the TAFE and university sectors of the importance of learning that has occured
outside the formal education system, i.e., in the workplace, in the home and in
the community generally.  Recognition of prior learning (RPL) is a process
which quantifies this learning and facilitates recognition of both experiential
and certificated learning.

Recognition of prior learning is the acknowledgement of skills and
knowledge obtained through formal training (conducted by industry and
educational institutions) work experience and informal training and/or life
experience.  The main focus of RPL is the learning outcomes of these
experiences irrespective of how or where the learning occurred.

There are a number of terms used to describe the process by which formal credit
may be obtained for learning gained through work and life experiences.  While
recognition of prior learning (RPL) is the most common Australian term, other
descriptors include:
	Recognition of current competencies		(RCC)
	Accreditation of prior learning			(APL)
	Assessment of prior learning			(APL)
	Credit for prior learning			(CPL)
	Assessment of prior experiential learning 	(APEL)

As the recognition of prior learning is now a component of a number of programs
in industry, TAFE and higher education, I would like to propose the creation of
a newsgroup which would facilitate an interchange of information between those
interested in the subject.  As RPL is the most popular of the above terms, the
suggested name of the newsgroup is aus.education.RPL.

As there has been no negative response to the above proposal, we plan to create
the group:  'aus.education.RPL' in one weeks time.


Helen Symmonds
Technology Management Centre
Phone:  (03) 805 3946
From: kong@neumann.une.edu.au (Yeong Mo, , , )
Newsgroups: aus.news
Subject: Immigration
Date: 22 Aug 92 05:07:10 GMT
Reply-To: kong@neumann.une.edu.au
Originator: kong@neumann.une.edu.au

From article <1992Aug15.173146.89769@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>, by slb143c@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au:
> China, my friend!
> You can see how weak the Australian government is! They can do nothing
> about the economy crisis. Chinese are much more wiser, once the Chinese
> government know what are the right thing to do (mean which is good for
> their country), they can do it well.
> 
> Any comment welcome.
Newsgroups: aus.followup
From: wvs@cancer.DIALix.oz.au (W.V. Sharpe (Ore Reserve Geologist LNO))
Subject: Re: OAGS
Reply-To: wvs@cancer.DIALix.oz.au
Organization: Western Mining Corp.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 00:20:57 GMT

In article 164319@dstos3.dsto.gov.au, jbennett@dstos3.dsto.gov.au () writes:
>In article <9222510.9697@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, ggr@koonda.acci.com.au (Greg Rose) writes:
>
>> for an acronym of your choice -- such as "Air Movement Device" (FAN).
>
>Wait up !  "Air Movement Device" should be A.M.D., not F.A.N.  ;-)
>

I'm sure I heard a few years ago that this is what IBM (I've Been Mugged) actually
called a fan in one of their system manuals.

---

   ,-_|\   Tim Shaw
  /     \  Contractor
  *_,-._/  Currently @ Western Mining Corporation  (Definitely not speaking for them )
       v   tim@cancer.dialix.oz.au
From: hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter])
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Public acces to usenet in Canberra
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:23:25 GMT
Organization: none

In <pjw.713975350@lobo> pjw@lobo.canberra.edu.au (Peter Wishart) writes:

>The Canberra Chapter of AUUG (aka COSUG) is setting up a dial in
>service for AUUG members in Canberra.  It will provide access to USENET
>et al for AUUG Canberra members.  You should get your friend to join
>AUUG.  Contact John Barlow (jdb@arp.anu.edu.au) or Ross Hand
>(rossh@ento.csiro.au) for further details.

>Peter

This is good to see.
I was just wondering if any other AUUG Chapters in other states 
had plans to set up a similar service.


James
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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: a connect.com question (price wise).
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:15:57 GMT
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young, Melbourne, Australia

(This is not an official response; I'm just an interested potential
customer who happens to know Ben and Hugh.)

>>>>> On 19 Aug 92 02:11:11 GMT, hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter]) said:

>> If we used slip/ppp are we seen by the whole Internet or just seen
>> on the local connect.com network.

You are correct, AARNet rules mean it is illegal for connect.com to
give you IP access to the rest of the internet. So their routers will
only pass packets between your systems and theirs.  However, they have
mentioned they intend to support "proxy ftp" which means you can ftp
into their machine, and it will forward the ftp out onto the rest of
the internet, giving all the interactive benefits of full ftp.  They
will alo run an ftpmail server locally, which will mean a much faster
response than you get from uow.

The kicker is the 1hr/day connect time.  This will not get much of a
news feed, even at 1k/sec V32bis speeds.  What seems the most
efficient arrangement is to use blazers for UUCP to get news and mail,
and use V32bis dialup SLIP when you need to use proxy ftp or ntp or
whatever.

Greg.

--
Gregory Bond <gnb@bby.com.au> Burdett Buckeridge & Young Ltd Melbourne Australia
``USL has never sold long distance.  You're going after the wrong men in black 
  hats.  (Or, in the case of Plan 9, black space suits)'' - Tom Limoncelli
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet,aus.news
From: mgream@acacia.ccsd.uts.EDU.AU (Matthew Gream)
Subject: Re: What's a distribution of "cs".
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:53:34 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Carl Makin (makinc@hhcs.gov.au) wrote:

: "I'm from the Government and I'm here to help you."

I wonder if I will be the only one to make a passing remark at this, 
maybe its time to create alt.humour.signatures ??

followups to somewhere else ..

--
mgream@acacia.ccsd.uts.EDU.AU ...       'The future has a _bad_ attitude.'
University of Technology, Sydney, Australia. Computer Systems Engineering.
From: daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Daavid Turnbull)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Public acces to usenet in Canberra
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:41:32 GMT
Organization: Computer Power Software


This is an inquiry on behalf of a friend who wishes to obtain access to
usenet with the aid of a pc and a modem.

Is it possible to get an account with dial in access at ANU or some
other ACT site for modest cost.  If so how should he go about it and
who should he contact.

What are the alternatives for private individuals in this situation?

Thanks in advance, daavid
-- 
	Daavid Turnbull
	daavid@bohra.cpg.oz   +61 3 823 0222    (fax) +61 3 824 8068
	uunet!munnari!bohra.cpg.oz!daavid
	CP Software Export Pty Ltd                   ACN 006 640 133
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Subject: Re: a connect.com question (price wise).
Reply-To: P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au
Organization: AARNet
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 02:46:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.071554.28840@melb.bull.oz.au>, sjg@melb.bull.oz.au (Simon J Gerraty) writes:
|> In <1992Aug19.021111.103@bacchus.esa.oz.au> hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter]) writes:
|> >Not connect.com offer a flat charge of say $2000 or a little less for
|> >a 1 hour a day connection of our choose.  uucp/ACSnet/slip/ppp
|> >If we used slip/ppp are we seen by the whole Internet or just seen
|> >on the local connect.com network.
|> 
|> According to my reading of the AARNet rules, they (connect.com)
|> are not allowed to let you gain IP access to AARNet.

This is correct. You could establish any sort of connection you like
to connect.com.au but they would have to be able to have the GNU
package you were actually after on their host system(s) for you to be
able to grap. Your network would be invisible to the rest of the 
Internet.

-- 
Peter Elford,                             e-mail: P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au
Network Co-ordinator                      phone: +61 6 249 3542
Australian Academic Research Network      fax:   +61 6 249 1369
c/o, Computer Services Centre             pager: +61 6 245 3035
Australian National University            post: GPO Box 1142     
Canberra, AUSTRALIA                             Canberra ACT 2601
From: richard@asis.unimelb.EDU.AU (Richard Begg)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Few Surprises in Science White Paper
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:19:59 GMT

pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford) writes:

|"Few Surprises in Science White Paper" read the heading on page 16
|of the Canberra Times this morning. But right at the end of the article:

|"Up to $13 million will be spent over the next two years upgrading the
|Australian Academic and Research Network, a computerised link between
|researchers and their colleagues in Australia and overseas."

|A few phone calls later I had the full story. Please find attached an
|extract from the aforementioned white paper, and the DITAC and AVCC
|press releases (neither of which Geoff or I saw prior to release). Any
|typos are without doubt, mine:

[.. deleted..]

Isn't that nice of them.  But what is the money to be spent on?  Faster links?
more IP connections?  Does it include any long term financial commitments
to pay for the "upgraded" phone bills?

Inquiring minds and all that.

--
Richard Begg (richard@asis.unimelb.edu.au)
Admin Systems and Info Services - University of Melbourne.
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Is there an AUSTRALIAN email gateway into ....z3.fidonet.org
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:56:04 GMT

Monday August 03 1992 23:17, Nick Andrew wrote:

 NA> the message was From  m2xenix!kralizec.zeta.org.au!nick

 NA> ... which is a kludge - they must be using some sort of DOS-based UUCP
 NA> package without domains.

I believe they might still be using ufgate 1.03, which is, well, a little old,
though I thought it did support domains.. perhaps not.


Regards,
Hamish


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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: Ben Golding <bgg@connect.com.au>
Subject: Re: a connect.com question (price wise).
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Sydney
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:01:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.021111.103@bacchus.esa.oz.au> hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter]) writes:
>Here at ESA we would like ftp access for the occasional upgrades
>to GNU tools etc.
>
>Not connect.com offer a flat charge of say $2000 or a little less for
>a 1 hour a day connection of our choose.  uucp/ACSnet/slip/ppp
>If we used slip/ppp are we seen by the whole Internet or just seen
>on the local connect.com network.

Your packets will only be seen on the connect.com.au network.

>FTPmail will take too long.

Connect.com.au will be running an ftpmail server for it's customers so
this should significantly reduce the turn-around time between
generating a request and receiving the files.

>SO, can we dial in and ftp to where we want and go for it??
>If you cannot do this under the standard costing.  How much
>would it cost for this service?
>
>From memory there is a rule that a network affiliate cannot IP connect
>any other network unless it is also a Network Affiliate So..
>How about if we slip in and telnet to a connect.com machine and
>ftp from there?  Is this possible?  Cost?

Those customers who have IP access (through SL/IP or PPP or whatever)
will be able to use proxy ftp through connect.com.au's ftp server.
This doesn't contravene AARNet's rules about giving direct access to
the network but does give people a way of using ftp to other sites
effectively directly.

	Ben.
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: pjw@lobo.canberra.edu.au (Peter Wishart)
Subject: Re: Public acces to usenet in Canberra
Organization: EASAMS (Australia) - ADCNET Project, Canberra
Date: 16 Aug 92 14:29:10 GMT

In <1992Aug14.124132.26998@bohra.cpg.oz.au> daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Daavid Turnbull) writes:

>Is it possible to get an account with dial in access at ANU or some
>other ACT site for modest cost.  If so how should he go about it and
>who should he contact.

The Canberra Chapter of AUUG (aka COSUG) is setting up a dial in
service for AUUG members in Canberra.  It will provide access to USENET
et al for AUUG Canberra members.  You should get your friend to join
AUUG.  Contact John Barlow (jdb@arp.anu.edu.au) or Ross Hand
(rossh@ento.csiro.au) for further details.

Peter
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: bgg@connect.com.au (Ben Golding)
Subject: Re: a connect.com question (price wise).
Organization: connect.com.au P/L, Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:14:58 GMT

In article <GNB.92Aug20091557@duke.bby.com.au> gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond) writes:
>The kicker is the 1hr/day connect time.  This will not get much of a
>news feed, even at 1k/sec V32bis speeds.

We'll sell you more than one hour a day if you want it.

An hour a day can easily transfer 3 Mb of data, which is about 6 Mb of
uncompressed news.  That's a lot of stuff to read.  The days of people
getting full feeds are long gone -- the volume is just too high and it
just keeps increasing.

	Ben.
From: sjg@melb.bull.oz.au (Simon J Gerraty)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: a connect.com question (price wise).
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:15:54 GMT
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Australia

In <1992Aug19.021111.103@bacchus.esa.oz.au> hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter]) writes:
>Not connect.com offer a flat charge of say $2000 or a little less for
>a 1 hour a day connection of our choose.  uucp/ACSnet/slip/ppp
>If we used slip/ppp are we seen by the whole Internet or just seen
>on the local connect.com network.

According to my reading of the AARNet rules, they (connect.com)
are not allowed to let you gain IP access to AARNet.

-- 
Simon J. Gerraty		<sjg@melb.bull.oz.au> (Work)
				<sjg@zen.void.oz.au>  (Home)

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From: hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter])
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: a connect.com question (price wise).
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:11:11 GMT
Organization: none


I have read over most documents about connect.com but
now have a question I do not think they answered.

Here at ESA we would like ftp access for the occasional upgrades
to GNU tools etc.

Not connect.com offer a flat charge of say $2000 or a little less for
a 1 hour a day connection of our choose.  uucp/ACSnet/slip/ppp
If we used slip/ppp are we seen by the whole Internet or just seen
on the local connect.com network.

Ie. We want to get the new version of gcc that came out yesterday
and we know its on this site.  We want it now and we also want
to have a look for any other nice toys that may have showed up.
FTPmail will take too long.
SO, can we dial in and ftp to where we want and go for it??
If you cannot do this under the standard costing.  How much
would it cost for this service?

From memory there is a rule that a network affiliate cannot IP connect
any other network unless it is also a Network Affiliate So..
How about if we slip in and telnet to a connect.com machine and
ftp from there?  Is this possible?  Cost?

If something like the above is possible we would find connect.com
very useful.   Ie we cannot afford a full time network connection
but a part time and probably time charged may be affordable.


James
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Systems Administrator                                        ACN [003 130 434]
From: dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer)
Subject: New NSWRL Clubs?
Summary: New Clubs?
Keywords: Rugby League
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:50:18 GMT

Greetings,

Can anybody supply a list of sorts describing the possible new clubs in 
contention for the NSWRL over the coming year/years? Also, are any clubs
in danger of being turfed out of the NSWRL (financial, other reasons?).

Can anybody tell me why Cronulla is so shite these days?

regards


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Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Darren Lyon)
Subject: Re: New NSWRL Clubs?
Keywords: Rugby League
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 04:19:37 GMT

dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer) writes:

>Greetings,

>Can anybody supply a list of sorts describing the possible new clubs in 
>contention for the NSWRL over the coming year/years? Also, are any clubs
>in danger of being turfed out of the NSWRL (financial, other reasons?).

>Can anybody tell me why Cronulla is so shite these days?

>regards


>--
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>       Dennis Remmer - dennis@citr.uq.oz.au - DennisR@syacus.acus.oz
>    Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Brisbane Queensland Australia

The possible new clubs in contention for the NSWRL are
1. Auckland
2. Perth
3. Brisbane
4. North Queensland
or maybe one from South Australia.
As far as any clubs being in danger of being turffed out it seems
unlikely as the NSWRL wants to expand. If any clubs are in financial
danger would they tell their supporters. I've even heard that the
mighty Broncos where in financial troubles at one stage.

As for Cronulla-
  1. Who cares
  2. Were they anything but shite in the first place.
  3. E.T. is a poof

If you want to know about a premiership winning team, follow
the BRONCOS !!!!!!!!!!



 ============================================================================

                Darren Lyon, Griffith University, Australia.

                Mail : dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au

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 It's important to keep an open mind, but not so open that your brains
 fall out.
                - Stephen A Kallis, Jr

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Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Bryan Lip)
Subject: BASKETBALL: NBL: WILDCATS NEWS
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:08:14 GMT

VLAHOV CONFIDENT OF SOLID NBL COMEBACK :

With the olympic bruden lifted from his shoulders, andrew vlahov is
confident he has his best basketball ahead of him - and says he is fully
focused for the perth wildcats games against newcastle and gold coast
this weekend.

vlahov arrived in sydney early yesterday morning and spent the day
resting in his hotel, preparing to link up with his perth teammates for
the flight to newcastle this morning (13/8/92). 

He is looking forward to training with the team this afternoon before
resuming his domestic season against the falcons tommorrow night.

whether the wildcats win or lose probably depends on vlahov's
contribution - and yesterday he was fully aware of that fact.

"I've heard that Trevor (Torrance) has hurt himself, which is a setback
for us, but it looks like Ricky Grace will be back, so that's good," he
said.

"These two games are really important for us, and they aren't going to
be easy."

Vlahov has his ups and downs during the busy olympic schedule, but
finished well with a solid 18 point game against brazil on sat.
afternoon, when he defended strongly against brazil's world class Oscar
Schmidth.


MORE COMING SOON, STAY TUNED ! (compliments the "west australia"
13/8/92)

contact me on : blip@tartarus.uwa.edu.au

COMMENTS WELCOME!!!


Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: ron@syacus.acus.oz.au (Ron Williams)
Subject: Re: Improving the Olympics
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:12:29 GMT

Brendan Jones (brendan@otc.otca.oz) wrote:

[preamble and aussie sports deleted]

> 
> And that the following sports be removed:
> 
> 	- Synchronised swimming

[...]
	
> Any more for any more?

I move that any sport which gives points for 'style' should be removed. If
you can't measure the outcome of an activity with a ruler, a stopwatch, or 
some other physical measuring device, then it shouldn't be an Olympic sport.

Have you heard that the ballroom dancing fraternity want to be included
as a 'sport'? Hohohohoho!

ron.

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