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From: jas@ISI.EDU (Jeff Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Looking for a C++ Compiler for the MAC
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:17:18 GMT
	<1993Jan4.221458.7320@tc.cornell.edu>
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: philip@vger.cheme.cornell.edu's message of 4 Jan 93 22:14:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.221458.7320@tc.cornell.edu> philip@vger.cheme.cornell.edu writes:

>In article <1992Dec22.060830.2807849309@ultramac.uucp>, to5232@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>
>>I am looking for a C++ compiler for the MAC.  I know of Zortech but I am still
>>not sure that they still produce it.  Can someone tell me of any C++ compilers
>>for the MAC and where I can buy?
>
>ThinkC has a very good C++ implementation, and you can get it just about
>anywhere. BTW the current version is 5.0.3
>

Please note that Think C 5 is NOT, in any way, shape or form, a
version of C++.  They have their own (partially congruent) object
enxtension to C called Object C or some such generic name equivalent.
Although very similar to C++ at the conceptual level, there is little
hope of source code compatibility.

jas
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From: David C. Roessli <roessli@sc2a.unige.ch>
Subject: AD 2.0 and non-US MacOS'
X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 16:23:09 GMT
Organization: Dpt. Anthropology, U of Geneva, Switzerland
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:28:46 GMT

As anyone got a patch kit for AutoDoubler 2.0 in order for it to run
on non US operating systems ? I recently bought v2.0 from the US, but it
refuses to run on my localised OS.

A way around this with the preceding version(s) 1.0.x was to upgrade it with
Salient's 1.0.7i patch kit .. Must one wait for Fifth Gen. Sys. to release
an upgrade ? Is there another way around this ? Or must I switch back to a
US version of the OS ?

Thanks in advance, cheers

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: chuckc@sr.hp.com (Chuck Corley)
Subject: Re: MIllie's Math House crashes IIsi
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:09:35 GMT
Organization: HP Santa Rosa, CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

Eric Topp (topp@roses.stanford.edu) wrote:
: I bought Millie's Math House as a gift for my nephews. It works for a
: while and then crashes. After this initial crash it will not work at
: all, bombing after its musical intro.  Reinstalling (which takes a
: while--four disks of compressed material) merely repeats this cycle. ...
: 
: Anyone out there got an answer or care to commiserate?

        I share your frustration.  For the longest time I couldn't even
get it to finish installing on our Mac Plus (with 2.5 Meg of RAM).

        I just spent two days on and off fiddling with Millie's Math
House, trying to get it to work.  Just because this program required at
least system 6.0.7, I upgraded from 6.0.2 to 6.0.8.  Every time the 20+
minute installation would finish (why does this take SO LONG???)  the
install program would crash at the very end with a 'missing coprocessor'
or a 'bad F-line trap', or some other error.  The error message given
almost seemed random.  After each crash I discovered that about 2
Megabytes of free hard disk space was missing.  Apparently the crash
also damaged the 'volume bitmap', which I had to repair using Mac Tools.

        Suspecting that they possibly hadn't tested using 6.0.8, I
upgraded to System 7.  After 4 more 20-minute installations, still no
luck.  Finally on the 5th time it installed!  But it immediately crashed
about 2 minutes after entering the small/medium/big screen (with the
shoes) ...  :-(

        Now I seem to have it mostly going, as long the kids don't enter
the small/medium/big screen first.  Entering any other area first seems
to work.

        I also tried giving the application more memory (up to 1.5 Meg,
3x more than it requested), but this didn't seem to help.  It still
crashed shortly after entering the small/medium/big screen.

        My daughter is excited about using Millie's Math House; it looks
like a really fun program.  Now if I could just get it to run reliably
for her ...

                                             Chuck Corley
                                             x7-4237
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: jtwarden@rpi.edu (Joseph Warden)
Subject: Re: Tax software?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Chemistry
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:47:34 GMT

In article <dnsurber.726417115@node_26400>, dnsurber@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov
(Douglas N. Surber) wrote:
> 
> I have used Mac_In_Tax since '86, but never again.  The '91 release was
> so bug ridden and the support so pathetic that I will not give those jerks
> a ChipSoft another cent.  The ruined a good product.  I will order
> TaxCut just as soon as I get my W2s.
> 
> I strongly encourage anyone who is planning to buy Mac_In_Tax to think again.
> Is it really easier to reenter all of your data multiple times since the
> program blows up when you try to change the values of certain fields?  Don't
> encourage vendors who don't care about the quality of their products.
>
 
My it MUST have been a bad day! In this and following polemics Mr. Surber
assails ChipSoft and MacInTax. I have used this product for at least 5
years, and while there have been occasional minor bugs (and most often
lapses in documentation), the software has behaved admirably. Even in
last year's "bug ridden" version, I had no difficulty in using the 
package and I even thought there were some improvements! (Of course I may  
change my mind if I get a letter from the IRS.) I ordered the "quick
start" version this year - it shipped within a week of the scheduled
release date. I loaded it, ran the conversion program and watched all
of those numbers as they placed themselves so neatly in the proper
locations.
Remarkable! MacInTax never did THAT before. SO....Mr. Surber, if an
humble chemist can use this program without despair, I would meekly
suggest perhaps you might need to consult the manual next time. :-) :-)
 
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Department of Chemistry
Rensselaer
Troy, NY 12180-3590
EMail: wardej@rpi.edu or userhay3@rpitsmts (BITNET)
Tel: (518)276-8482
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From: lupini@cs.sfu.ca (Peter Lupini)
Subject: Canadian Tax S/W For Mac?
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: canada 
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:07:31 GMT

Hi, 

I am really hoping that someone knows about a tax program for Canadian
income tax. I have used CanTax from the IBM world, but it would be 
much nicer to not have to borrow my neighbour's PC every March. Even 
an excel spreadsheet would be better than nothing, I guess.

Thanks, 
Peter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Subject: Re: Looking for a C++ Compiler for the MAC
Organization: Penn State Center for Academic Computing
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 14:03:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.180601.9645@iscsvax.uni.edu> to5232@iscsvax.uni.edu  
writes:
> In article <1993Jan4.221458.7320@tc.cornell.edu>,  
philip@vger.cheme.cornell.edu writes:
> > In article <1992Dec22.060830.2807849309@ultramac.uucp>,  
to5232@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> >>
> >>I am looking for a C++ compiler for the MAC.  I know of Zortech but I  
am still
> >>not sure that they still produce it.  Can someone tell me of any C++  
compilers
> >>for the MAC and where I can buy?
> > 
> > ThinkC has a very good C++ implementation, and you can get it just  
about
> > anywhere. BTW the current version is 5.0.3
> >  
> How compliant is it with the ATT C++ compiler?  It equivalent to ATT C++  
2.1 or
> higher? (Just asking for a point of reference.)

I beg to differ--Think C 5.0 is NOT a C++ compiler. While it supports some  
features of C++, it does not support operator overloading which I consider  
the big reason to use C++ for engineering/scientific/number-crunching  
software development. Nice environment, but for my purposes it isn't a C++  
package. (Although, I wish it was!)

There are also some other deficiencies which preclude it from being C++  
complient; however, I don't remember them since I stopped looking at the  
package when I discovered it didn't have operator overloading.

(Operator overloading means I can have multiple definitions of "*" so that  
the command a=c*v behaves correctly regardless of c or v being a scalar,  
vector, matrix, polynomial, etc. Obviously, this facilitates writing  
compact, yet maintainable, number-crunching code.)

Mark.
--
Mark Kotanchek
Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.oop.misc
From: philip@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Subject: Re: Looking for a C++ Compiler for the MAC
Reply-To: philip@vger.cheme.cornell.edu
Organization: Chemical Engineering, Cornell University, NY
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:14:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.060830.2807849309@ultramac.uucp>, to5232@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>
>I am looking for a C++ compiler for the MAC.  I know of Zortech but I am still
>not sure that they still produce it.  Can someone tell me of any C++ compilers
>for the MAC and where I can buy?

ThinkC has a very good C++ implementation, and you can get it just about
anywhere. BTW the current version is 5.0.3
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ti08+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tatsuhiro Ikeda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: font conversion
Date: 3 Jan 93 21:12:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.EfFyB6K00WB_46zxYq
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.mac.apps: 3-Jan-93 font conversion by
Eric Choi@p5.f175.n2240. 
> From: Eric.Choi@p5.f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
> Subject: font conversion
> Date: 3 Jan 93 03:05:55 GMT
>  
>  
>   ja> From: jderyck@engn.uwindsor.ca (John De Ryckere) Date: 31 Dec 92
>   ja> 16:55:45 GMT Organization: VLSI Research Group - University of Windsor
>   ja> Message-ID: <2325@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> Newsgroups:
>   ja> comp.sys.mac.apps
>   ja> 
>   ja> Hi, I'm looking for a utility which will allow me to convert between
>   ja> Adobe ATM fonts on the Macintosh and MS Windows (both directions).  If
>   ja> anyone can tell me of a shareware or commercial product that would be
>   ja> great.
>   ja> 
>   ja> --- Squish v1.01
>   ja>  * Origin: zeus.ieee.org * [140.98.1.1]  (1:107/10)
>  
> FontMonger from Ares will do it. It's a Mac application and can be ordered
> from
> MacConnection.


Metamorphosis Pro is very good too.  It will convert from Type 1, Type
3, TrueType, PC for Windows (ATM), and Next Computer fonts to all of the
just mentioned formats, if you can get PC or Next fonts on your Mac. 
Very easy to use, very sophisticated.  (It will even search your
printer`s hard drive for postscript fonts, if it can't find a font on
your mac!)  About $200, I think.

Tatsu Ikeda
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: dnsurber@lescsse.jsc.nasa.gov (Douglas N. Surber)
Subject: Re: Tax software?
Organization: Lockheed Engineering and Sciences
Date:  8 Jan 93 14:52:00 GMT

In <7JAN199317054920@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov> kayser@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Susan E. Kayser NSSDC/STX (301)513-1673) writes:

>It seems reasonable to give ChipSoft a chance; they only had the program for a
>short time (< 1 yr, anyhow) before it was tax time and they _had_ to release
>it. If there are problems this year, though, it's goodbye. 

Hold everything!  Give ChipSoft a chance. Phooey!  They had an excellent 
chance already.  MacInTax was an excellent program thru '90.  It was easy
to use, it worked and they provided good support.  Then ChipSoft bought it
and trashed it completely.  The '91 release (ChipSoft's first) was garbage.
From what I've heard so far, the '92 release is not a lot better.

I'm sure all of us have been inundated with stuff about improving quality
in the US.  Well, one of the best things each of us can do to improve quality
is not to buy crap.  That sends the strongest possible message to the vendor
that they had better get their act together.  If we hadn't been willing to
put up with junky cars for so long, the US auto makers would have build better
cars and the Japanese wouldn't have been as successful. 

ChipSoft had a chance and blew it.  Now I'm going to give TaxCut a chance.


--
Douglas Surber             "Would you rather debug at
Lockheed                    compile time or run time?"
Houston, TX                      --Michael B. Feldman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ollef@sics.se (Olle Furberg)
Subject: Re: Drawing program with publishing facilities
Organization: Satellite Image in Kiruna Corporation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:14:36 GMT

In <1035@rc1.vub.ac.be> sdkerpel@vnet3.vub.ac.be (Sven De Kerpel) writes:

>I'm looking for a drawing program which can 
>use the system 7 publish and subscribe tools. (like MS Word and EXcell do)

Adobe Photoshop 2.01, but maybe that's not the sort of program you are 
looking for.


  /Olle
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: stevens@cs.colorado.edu (Curt Stevens)
Subject: Re: MYM Questions (was Re: Quicken vs Managing Your Money)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:37:24 GMT

In article <1ikt4iINN7j7@armory.centerline.com>, chapman@centerline.com
(Scott Chapman, (Scott Chapman x233)) wrote:
> 
> In article 1iksiaINN7sj@satie.cs.unc.edu, morse@cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse) writes:
> >
> >Since we're on the subject of MYM:
> >
> >1. In MYM, is there a way to move one or more already existing budget 
> >categories (with transactions already posted against them) into an 
> >aggregate one?  
> Yes.
> 
> >
> >2. What does MYM 5.0 provide that 4.0 doesn't?  Obviously the tax modules have 
> >been updated, but I don't use them.  What else should entice me to upgrade?
> New tax tables, and "improved" navigation, although I didn't notice.
> 

Also, there are a couple of small interface improvements that greatly
enhanced my enjoyment of using the software. (A) The checkbook register now
automatically scrolls to the bottom of the list allowing you to immediately
confirm the entry of recent items. (B) The "reconcile accounts" window can
now be sorted by ID# as well as date which makes reconciling some bank
statements MUCH easier.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: rowley@theporch.raider.net (Michael Rowland)
Subject: Re: font conversion
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:03:35 GMT
Organization: The MacInteresteds of Nashville, Tn.

Eric.Choi@p5.f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Eric Choi) writes:

> 
>   ja> From: jderyck@engn.uwindsor.ca (John De Ryckere) Date: 31 Dec 92
>   ja> 16:55:45 GMT Organization: VLSI Research Group - University of Windsor
>   ja> Message-ID: <2325@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> Newsgroups:
>   ja> comp.sys.mac.apps
>   ja> 
>   ja> Hi, I'm looking for a utility which will allow me to convert between
>   ja> Adobe ATM fonts on the Macintosh and MS Windows (both directions).  If
>   ja> anyone can tell me of a shareware or commercial product that would be
>   ja> great.
>   ja> 
>   ja> --- Squish v1.01
>   ja>  * Origin: zeus.ieee.org * [140.98.1.1]  (1:107/10)
> 
> FontMonger from Ares will do it. It's a Mac application and can be ordered
> from
> MacConnection.
> 

As will Metamorphosis from AltSys (<---I think I spelled it right)

I've had some fonts fail to convert with FontMonger that worked okay with 
Metamorphosis... and vice versa.

jmr

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  rowley@theporch.raider.net (Michael Rowland)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.oop.misc
From: afrancke@hmcvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Looking for a C++ Compiler for the MAC
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 11 Jan 93 00:02:34 PST

> Beyond that, the rumor mill has been churning out stories of a Think C++ 
> standalone ever since Symantec bought Zortech. I would be VERY reluctant about
> going out to get MPW and either C++ compiler now given that there is a pretty 
> good chance of a standalone Think C++ RSN. Not that MPW is so awful, but If you
> already have Think C, or even if you don't, it will almost certainly be cheaper
> and less demanding of hardware to wait for the Think C++


It ain't the rumor mill -- it's Symantec itself. The THINK C product manager
himself (when I asked recently at Macworld Expo) told me that the *only* thing
Symantec currently guarantees to be in v6.0 is a full C++ implementation. I
asked, "So is it in Beta now, or what?" He answered, "Sorry, I told you
everything that I'm allowed to say." I felt like a reporter during the Gulf
War. Every question I asked got this answer, except the first one about C++.
Steve Jasik (of Jasik's Debugger/Mac Nosy fame) recently updated (Octoberish)
his products to work with THINK C 6.0 project files, so I have a feeling they
may just be ironing out what features they're going to include with 6.0.

Andrew Francke
From: terry@rod.mitre.org (Terry Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Compiling Sun WP fonts using MacX 1.2
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:42:04 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation


I'm trying to use MacX 1.2 to display Word Perfect running on a Sun (SunOS
4.1.3), but am having trouble compiling the WP fonts.  I've ftp'd the
WP fonts (*.bdf) from the Sun to my Mac Quadra 950, but when I try to
compile them in MacX, the finder doesn't recognize the font files, i.e.,
they don't show up under "Compile BDF File".  I tried using ResEdit 2.1
to assign the proper file type & creator (i.e., made them look like the
font files that came with MacX), but MacX still will not recognize them.
As a matter of fact, after using ResEdit, the files appear to the finder
as MacX documents, but still cannot be compiled.  Any help appreciated,
e-mail replies preferred.  Thanks.

BTW, I'm running System 7.1.

	Terry (terry@mitre.org)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hardin@dino.mcc.com (John Hardin)
Subject: Q: tools for including graphics in documents
Organization: MCC ISD, Austin, Texas
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:05:19 GMT

I'm trying to generate some user manuals for which I need screen dumps
and pictures of the individual menus.  Does anybody have a suggestion
for tools/applications I can use to make this easier?  I know about
screen dump utilities.  How 'bout apps that can crop the images?  How
do people get graphics of menus?

Thanks in advance for any and all help.
-jwh
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MCC			    email:  hardin@mcc.com
3500 W. Balcones Center Dr  fax:    (512)338-3897
Austin, TX  78759-6509	    uucp:   ...!cs.utexas.edu!milano!hardin
From: achou@plasma.icsl.ucla.edu (Albert Chou)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Mac Disertation Word Processor
Summary: WordRef only works with Word
Date: 7 Jan 93 01:44:34 GMT
Organization: University of California at Los Angeles, EE Dept.

In article <bernard-050193094653@kashmir.cs.colorado.edu> bernard@cs.colorado.edu (Bernie Bernstein) writes:
>The only problem I have had is dealing with references (bibliographical).
>There are utilities for MS Word which can auto number and otherwise deal
>with their formatting like End Note and WordRef. Do these utilities work in
>FrameMaker?

The summary line says it all.  WordRef's author Mark Nodine doesn't even know
Word's full save file format, but is lucky that he can access the text inside
such a document at a high level at which he doesn't _need_ to know the file
format.  So, I'm willing to bet that WordRef won't work at all with anything
but Word, _unless_ the document file format allows the same kind of access to
text that Word's does _and_ WordRef is or is made capable of reading such
files (probably just a matter of changing the file filter).

Al
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: eric@cs.ruu.nl (Eric Nieuwland)
Subject: Music writing apps ?
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:41:00 GMT
Organization: SERC/RUU
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps

Dear netters,

A friend considers buying a Mac to write music. He would like to
play the music from the Mac and, if possible, to connect something
like a MIDI keyboard to enter the music.

Questions:
1. Which software is available to do this, and how much does it cost ?
2. Which Mac would deliver the best price/performance ratio for this ?

Please mail and I will summarize to the net.

Thanks in advance,

--eric@cs.ruu.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: douglis@chimay.MITL.COM (Fred Douglis)
Subject: Re: Quicken vs Managing Your Money
Organization: /u/douglis/.organization
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:25:32
Comments: Hyperbole mail buttons accepted, v3.06.

>>>>> On 5 Jan 93 17:29:47 GMT, cse0603@desire.wright.edu said:

    steve> Any opinions on Managing Your Money vs Quicken would be
    steve> appreciated.  I'd like to keep my household budget on my
    steve> MAC and I've narrowed my choices to these two.

The New York Times Science Times had an article on this yesterday (5
January 1993).  They recommend Quicken if you want things quick and
painless, and MYM if you view managing your finances as "serious fun".

I just got MYM after using Quicken for a year, because I'd heard from
several people that MYM is better.  I think it's better for some
stuff, but I'm disappointed so far in other respects where I think
Quicken got it right.  (E.g., reconciling a bank statement asks if it
should add a finance charge and/or interest payment.)  I haven't read
through the manual much yet, though, and I've heard this is crucial.
So I'll reserve judgment for now.  I may stick with MYM or may switch
back to Quicken.
--
Fred Douglis
Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory  | Email: douglis@mitl.com
182 Nassau Street			      | Phone: +1 609 497-4600
Princeton, NJ 08542 USA 		      | Fax:   +1 609 497-4013
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: johore@teal.csn.org (John Orendt)
Subject: Sys 6.0.7 How postscript text file from a MS Word Doc?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:32:27 GMT

 
Hi
 
How do I generate a postscript text file suitable for transmision
via email from Microsoft Word 4.0?
 
System 6.0.7 Finder 6.1.7
LaserWriter 5.2 LaserPrep 5.2
MultiFinder 6.1b7
 
Thanks.
 
johore@csn.org

-- 

  

  J                                                .-~~~-,