From: williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Uptightness about sex & ...
Date: 12 Aug 1992 21:32:23 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Reply-To: williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums)
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In article <palmer.713644413@isye.gatech.edu> palmer@isye.gatech.edu (Michael T. Palmer) writes:
>Wat seemes to not have picked up on the part about BBQing at the beach.
>Since he says he is a vegetarian, and that the smell of roasting animal
>flesh displeases him, I expected him to agree with me that he would seek
>out beaches where BBQing (or any cooking) wasn't permitted.  The BBQ
>people would go to BBQ beaches, and he would go to his.
---
	You missed the point of that side comment.  The side comment was
about whether or not I would mind going to a beach on which there
was perhaps bits of animal flesh and blood left in the sand from the
last animal sacrifice.  It was animal sacrifice or slaughter that
I said would be unallowed under the harm none doctrine due to public
health reasons.  The smell had nothing to do with it on that level.

    The problem with your solution is that some people have allergies
and/or dislikes of various smells and various levels of bathing suits.
Eventually you are going to need beaches that segregate by swimsuit type
-- are thongs permitted or not?  Are bikinis permitted or not?  Is
perfume permitted or not?  Is tanning lotion permitted or not (what if
someone doesn't like or is allergic to palm oils?) Is food permitted or
not?  Further segregating could be by food preference, drink preference,
music preference, drum/no drum preference, sex (males or females only),
sexual preference (gays or straights only or both), reading preference
(none, and/or type), race (hey, if I find Irish people offensive, why
shouldn't I have a segregated beach?!), cussing/no cussing,
talking/no-talking, type of sexual activity (solo, couples, group, B&D,
S&M, etc.), religious preference, -- hell, why not even looks -- maybe
blondes-only beaches (so labels could be added -- like "water", "sand",
"place towels here"...:-) -- I can make jokes like that, I'm blonde!),
etc., etc., ETC!

    Where do you stop?  When every last person on earth has their own
beach?  Of course you sit back and say -- william is going overboard
again.  Is he?  What you are saying is that because some people get
offended in a particular area, we should segregate them based on their
preferences -- what offends them.  On that basis, you could logically
have the Mormons in Utah have a Mormon-only beach -- they are a majority
-- therefore they can do whatever they please!  Is that 'right'?  

	There are arguable and valid places for segregation -- like if a
person's habit harms those around them -- smoking, for example.  But for
habits which don't, well, that's entirely a different matter.


>And, Wat's outrageous hangups about BBQ chicken won't interfere with a
>good meal.  :-)  (Just kidding, Wat.  But I hope you see my point).
----
	Actually, I *like* the smell of some things cooking -- like
BBQ chicken usually smells good...but being a veg, I just pout.  Though
often steak BBQ's don't smell as good -- I think I like the sauce...hmmm
I wonder if the sauce if vegetarian...maybe on tofu burgers!...hmmm.

-wat-
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