HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mkh@pacific.uucp (michael hamilton)
Subject: is 4 MB enough for compress?
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:00:48 GMT

Hello, world.  I just got coherent 4.0 up on my 33 MHz 486 clone motherboard
with AMI bios, maxstor 200 MB IDE drive, and 4 MB of 70 ns memory.  I was
able to use ckermit to call out on com2 over a Telebit T2500, and download
a Unix comm package to try and compile.  However, %compress -d pcomm.tar.Z
ends up in a user trap and core dump.

My question: is this because of insufficient memory, insufficient tmp space,
or what?  I read something in that whale of a manual that said to increase
/dev/ram1 to 512K, or something like that, but I think it may be that I'm just
short on memory with 4 megs.  I have a 256K ram cache, and 384K shadow.  Should
I disable these, or make them smaller?  Should I edit /etc/brc and increase
the size of the ramdisk used for tmp space by compress/zcat?  Should I buy more
memory?

Still working on UUCP/news, and wondering if waffle isn't the way to go.  It
sure is a lot less anal than Cnews, Gnews, etcnews, and has the added bonus
of being a bbs/restricted shell.  There's $.02 for you.

	mike

----
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mkh@pacific.jpl.nasa.gov / oceanography from space
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: is 4 MB enough for compress?
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 06:19:58 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

mkh@pacific.uucp (michael hamilton) writes:

> Still working on UUCP/news, and wondering if waffle isn't the way to go.  It
> sure is a lot less anal than Cnews, Gnews, etcnews, and has the added bonus
> of being a bbs/restricted shell.  There's $.02 for you.

Waffle for un*x doesn't come with a uucp or news system, it's just a bbs
shell, news/mail reader, and files system.

						- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan)
Subject: various ?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:09:55 GMT

I have uumvlog run by the uucp crontab, but whenever it runs it 
makes the logs writable. uucheck -f fixes this, but I can't seem to 
make uucp cron run this. I tried sh /bin/uucheck -f -s and 
sh /bin/uucheck "-f -s". What am I missing here?
 
my keyboard- under emacs the arrow keys, delete, home, end, pg 
up/down work. Under elvis the arrow keys work but the others don't. 
On the emacs set korn shell command line none of these work. I have 
TERM= ansipc set. How come these differences?
 
I am receiving mail fine when I poll my host. When I write mail it 
calls the host and sends the address and msg packets, removing the 
D files. When I poll a second time I get back a uucico msg from the 
uucp @ host (Status 0, Signal 2). The mail doesn't seem to be going 
out into the net from my host, but they say my uucp account is set 
up correctly at their end. I have rmail set in the Permissions file 
here. Opinions?
 
Timothy.
From: roger@neptons.UUCP (Roger Barth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: coh 4.0.1 / keyboards
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:15:58 GMT
Organization: Cameron Park, CA

rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
> >
> >Who has a 'clone' keyboard that works well ?
> 
> I have a Northgate OmniKey/101 keyboard.  It works perfectly with Coherent 4.0
> and virtual consoles.
> 

I have a Northgate Omnikey Ultra and the escape key (for terminating
the memory check) is now NUMLOCK???  It stays that way until I power
the system down.  The moment Coherent loads, it is permanently
swapped.

--

----
Roger Barth - Cameron Park, California USA            Coherent 4.0.1
roger%neptons@antares.intel.com                 916-677-9771 (voice)
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From: dans%danix@UUNET.UU.NET (Dan Simoes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Success!
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:47:36 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Well, I've done it.  I was going to simply do a full reinstall, as I installed
a new disk at the same time, but I wasn't able to back up because of a driver
problem (don't know if it cleared up).  At any rate, the upgrade script worked
fine, didn't blow away my news or comb or anything, except for a couple of
files.  By the way, when the script finished the upgrade, you'll see a
directory called old_coh sitting there.  LEAVE IT!  I twice needed to go back in
and get files that weren't put in their proper places.

One complaint: although the manual says it's possible, the upgrade prompted me
for the existing root partition, but never bothered to ask if I wanted to
install root on another partition...

| Dan |

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Dan Simoes            email: dans@danix.uucp or
Danix Consulting       dans%danix.uucp@uunet.uu.net
Yorktown Hgts, NY     voice: (914) 747-1994 ext.415
From: roger@neptons.UUCP (Roger Barth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Success with Installing 4.0.1
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:19:41 GMT
Organization: Cameron Park, CA

lauther@ztivax.UUCP (Dr Ulrich Lauther) writes:
> The only thing I lost were .profile (the loss of which I cold have avoided,
> as I know now) and modified /etc/rc, /etc/termcap.
> 

.... and /etc/modemcap, /usr/bin/modeminit
I also found out that the old /usr/lib/mail/paths and aliases files
were moved to old_coh, but not moved back.......

----
Roger Barth - Cameron Park, California USA            Coherent 4.0.1
roger%neptons@antares.intel.com                 916-677-9771 (voice)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan)
Subject: news help
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:13:42 GMT

bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger) writes
 
If a general consensus can be reached in comp.os.coherent about what the
prefered news package combo is, or perhaps a couple of prefered news
configurations, it would hopefully be a simple matter to create some
diskettes users can install with the /etc/install command to automatically
place binaries and shell scripts in proper directories with appropriate
permissions and perhaps some minimal default configuration to
read and reply to comp.os.coherent. Downloadable images of the
diskettes can be made available on mwcbbs and other sites for people
to uncompress and dd or cpdir (depending on how the images are made
available) the image to a floppy diskette.
 
Bob, please! First, cnews which has a simple newsreader I believe, 
then one of the more complete newsreaders such as rn or nn, then elm.
 
And bless you!
 
Timothy.
 
Time is our only resource, humor our only defense.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: dfp10@thor.albany.edu (D Parsons)
Subject: The extent of 4.0 v.1 problems
Originator: dfp10@thor.albany.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:43:53 GMT

I am using 3.1 on a 286 and wonder whether I should get a 386 mother board
an install 4.0. I read about all these problems ......!
  Does anyone have an estimate of the number of succesful installations 
(without guru intervention). In any case, when will a new version be 
released? Don

-- 

Donald F. Parsons MD, Wadsworth Ctr. Rm C273, NY State Dept of Health, ESP,
PO Box 509, Albany, NY 12201-0509. (518)474-7047 Fax: (518)474-7992
dfp10@uacsc2.albany.edu dfp10@albnydh2.bitnet Cis 71777,212
From: PINEAU@uqac.uquebec.ca (Louis Pineau)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: A question about compiling with the -VPROF option
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:13:25 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>
Organization: Universite du Quebec a Chicoutimi

Hi,

Yesterday I was trying to compile a program under Coherent 4.0 and I wanted
to try the -VPROF option of the compiler. When it reached the loader pass, the
compilation aborted complaining about a module, /bin/mctrs0.o, that was not
in the COFF format. So I looked at the module and found out that it has been
left out by the upgrade from 3.2.1 to 4.0.1. So, I renamed it and try to
load it from the 4.0.1 distribution. Bad news! there is no such module on the
4.0.1 distribution floppies... and of course, no way to compile with the
-VPROF option.

Has anybody had this kind of problem before or am I doing something wrong?
What is this module about? Any clue would be very appreciated.

As long as I am writing this message, I also found out that the images cc1,
cc2 and cc3 had been also left out from the upgrade. Is this right? Should'nt
they have been removed?

By the way, for those who are still tracking those who did the upgrade, let
me say that my upgrade went very well, without a glitch. The overall
operation  took me about an hour. The only anoying thing of this upgrade was
the pre-upgrade backup... on FLOPPIES!!! (3 hours) yeurk! But it had to be
done...

Louis
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From: GREGL@DELPHI.COM (Greg Law)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent installed on nonsupported Toshiba 5200
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:36:31 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Ray Thornton says:

> The only major trouble I've had is not being able to get the Coherent
> dos commands to work. For example:
>
>	dosdir c:
>
> works successfully and generates a directory on the screen.
>
>	dir c:\news\comp\os\os2
>	dir c:news\comp\os\os2\*.*
>
> generates an error that 'newscomp' cannot be found.

(The dir vs. dosdir above is a typo on my part!)

The problem is that you should be using forward slashes with the dos
commands. For example, use this instead:

	dosdir c:/news/comp/os/os2

and it will work, I almost guarantee it. :-)

Another lus for Coherent 4.0 is that it does work with large DOS partitions.
I used it today to transfer several files to a directory on a 100MB drive
(single partition) and it worked like a charm.

	-- Greg
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0.1; some bad things
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 19:09:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.103932.1230@dlpinc00.rn.com> dlparker@dlpinc00.rn.com (David L. Parker) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.013521.3370@ksmith.uucp> keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith) writes:
>>
>>You need a Magitronic 486/33 with OPTI chipset.  Barfs especially bad
>>with an Adaptec Controller.  Again All 386's I've tested have been fine.
>>I have access to 3 "DIFFERENT" 486/33's here but all are actually the
>>same motherboard with different names stamped on them.
>>
>
>I'm curious.  I've had some experiences with Magitronic motherboards.  How
>many layers does this board have?  What are others' experiences with 
>Magitronics?  And, specifically to Keith, what are the names stamped on the
>three 486/33 m'boards??

NOTHING on 2, the Magitronic has a White peely sticker and a foily
sticker on the CPU.  One from an outfit called ACE in FL.  #3 is from I
dun member where, no sticker.  Will try to dig up invoice.  (Maybe
California Microchip, but Those might have been the 386's).  All MB's
are identical except for the sign-on message from the BIOS.

All ran SCO fine.  One in my office now is from Am. Computer Express.
<sigh>

>-- 
>Dave Parker
>Automated Data Management Services, Pleasant Hill, MO 64080-1331
>(816) 987-5167/5218 voice/fax


-- 
Keith Smith          uunet!ksmith!keith            5719 Archer Rd.
Digital Designs      BBS 1-919-423-4216            Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201
Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan)
Subject: wnews
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:18:26 GMT

Having given up on cnews I am trying to install wnews. The binaries
compiled once I removed the fixstack and libdir.a references, though I got
warning msgs from make (variables not used and strict integer pun).
 
I ran the Install script which I noticed changed /etc/uucpname from
tbucks to tbucks <CR> com. This does not seem to affect mail so I left it.
 
I edited the sys, active, and distribution files. Permissions are set
properly on all dirs.
 
I used pnews to write an article reproduced below.
From: root@tbucks.com (Superuser)
Newsgroups: to.tbucks
Distribution: csn
Subject: test
Organization: r_US-sia connect
Date: Thu,  3 Sep 92 09:00:14 MST7MDT
 
Test of tbucks.com news feed. Pls reply this newsgroup. Tx,
Timothy.
 
 
      ------- Time is our only resource, humor our only defense. -------
 
csn is the name of my internet host, and to.tbucks a test newsgroup I asked
them to set. BTW, is there a way to make pnews use the screen editor
/usr/bin/me that I placed in wnews.h before running make?
 
When I exited pnews this article was placed in /usr/spool/news/to/tbucks
and checknews replied there is news. However, nothing was moved into
/usr/spool/batch.
 
My impression is that pnews should call inews to place this article into
/usr/spool/batch since the distribution is csn (I also tried it w/ world).
If I run inews the program hangs. 
 
Could there be something wrong w/ inews; I got several msgs when making it,
variables not used and one strict integer pun. Or p'haps I'm not using it
right; the only docs included were the .8 pages. Where can I get the full
manual?
 
Txia,
Timothy.
 
After I wrote this I found a few file permissions misset in /usr/lib/news
(but not in /usr/bin). when I corrected them and ran pnews, it said
cannot execute /usr/lib/news/inews. Here is the l for that file-
 
-r-sr-sr-x  1 news       news         28278 Wed Sep  2 17:35 inews
 
Is this file the right size and set correctly? Why would pnews not be able
to run it?
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: mail
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 30 Aug 92 02:42:48 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan) writes:
> I want all mail to be delivered to my smart-host to be placed on 
> the net, so /usr/lib/mail/paths is
>  
> tbucks.com %s 0
> smart-host csn!%s 0

/usr/lib/mail/paths must be sorted in ascending order.  Put smart-host first
and it should spring to life.

--
Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
From: root@ritz.mordor.com (Chris Mauritz - SysGod)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Where's all my memory??? :-)
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:52:28 GMT
Organization: Ritz International, Inc.

But seriously....

When Coh 4.0 boots up the little information screen tells me that
I only have 5860K free memory.  I have 8 megs of RAM and only
2 virtual consoles (though I have yet to figure out how to use
them).  Granted, my motherboard might be stealing 380K or
so, but where's the other 2 megs?

Cheers,

Chris

-- 
Christopher Mauritz                   | You ask me to enter
root@ritz.mordor.com                  | But then you make me crawl
root%ritz.mordor.com@spcvxa.spc.edu   | And I can't be holding on...
{backbone}!rutgers!spcvxb!ritz!root   | -U2-
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: various ?
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:23:23 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan) writes:
[...]
: Special question for Udo- yousay that Wnews is "much easier to install
: than Cnews". Would it be on the order I outlined above, and if so where
: could I anonymous ftp it?
[...]
Under Coherent 3.x make install and editing of the system files was
enough to install it here on my system. Also I've hacked all the
man pages so that they'll format nicely using Coherents man macros.
I've also send this man files to MWC, maybe they have added them to
the WNEWS distribution on MWCBBS. However, I haven't recompile the
package under 4.0 yet, I'm still running the 286 binaries. Maybe
there are problems if you try to install it under 4.0.
Sorry but I don't know where to ftp it because I can't ftp. As far
as I know it's not on raven, the only ftp site for Coherent.

The last time I've readed much about trouble installing a news package,
news reader and elm. I could set up a floppy disk or two with all this
stuff ready to install while answering some simple questions like
the installation of Coherent. But this is really a lot of work and
I don't want to do it for two or three users. Also Coherent is my
"play ground" at home, not my business, so I can't spend so much time
with it as I would like to do.
So my question: how many Coherent 4.0 users are out there who wants
to get plug and play news and mail for Coherent 4.0 with printed
manuals on a floppy disk distribution?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: dlparker@dlpinc00.rn.com (David L. Parker)
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0.1; some bad things
Organization: Automated Data Management Services
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 10:39:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.013521.3370@ksmith.uucp> keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith) writes:
>
>You need a Magitronic 486/33 with OPTI chipset.  Barfs especially bad
>with an Adaptec Controller.  Again All 386's I've tested have been fine.
>I have access to 3 "DIFFERENT" 486/33's here but all are actually the
>same motherboard with different names stamped on them.
>

I'm curious.  I've had some experiences with Magitronic motherboards.  How
many layers does this board have?  What are others' experiences with 
Magitronics?  And, specifically to Keith, what are the names stamped on the
three 486/33 m'boards??
-- 
Dave Parker
Automated Data Management Services, Pleasant Hill, MO 64080-1331
(816) 987-5167/5218 voice/fax
From: edi@edefix.han.de (E. v. Pappenheim)
Subject: Re: UUCP throughput in Coh 4.0
Organization: PCC (Private Coherent Chaos)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:02:54 GMT

X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

cbs@cls.com (Chris B. Smith) writes:
: Can anyone share their experiences with the throughput of Coherent's
: UUCP in version 4.0?
: 
: I experienced low throughput with version 3.2 (about 650 cps). Has 
: this been resolved in version 4?
: 
: Thanks,
: Chris
: 
: --------------
: Chris B. Smith   -   cbs@cls.com   -   ...!uunet!cls!cbs
: #include <disclaim.h>

Yes, the throughput is more than doubled on my system, because the new uucico
supports 7 windows now.

Ecki
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Upgrading to 4.0.1
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 06:37:12 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Keywords: dos*

batchelor@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Dave Batchelor, NSSDC, 301-286-2988) writes:

> [...problem with "dos" commands and /dev/atoa (aka C:)...]
> manual directs.  Before I phoned MWC, I checked whether the Superuser could
> access C: and voila!  So with this info, I called MWC, and was told the fix:
> login as root, chmod 666 /at0a

I hope this is on a machine that you're the only one using - setting /dev/at0a
to 0666 would allow any user to seriously scribble on your hard drive.

						- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: No bug reports? (was: Re: Now this is a real cc bug)
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:23:01 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan) writes:
: IMO, it's better to report a bug together with the workaround to the net,
: so not only MWC is informed, but also people know what's the matter when
: they happen to stumble into it.
: 
: Opinions?

I aggree. First MWC gets the chance to remove bugs from the programs.
Secound I (and we all) can work around a well known problem until we
get a fixed upgrade from MWC. I also would suggest to mail such errors
directly to MWC to be sure someone there noticed it. I'm not sure
if they have always the time to read all the informations posted here.
--
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From: rogue@anableps.berkeley.edu (Brett Glass)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Wyse Terminals
Date: 23 Aug 1992 23:51:59 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: anableps.berkeley.edu

In article <920822.20010728.048564@USM.CP6> "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:
>I have gotten hold of a Wyse 60 terminal as salvage(as is!).
>I've connected it to com1 on my system...set it up for polled access
>because my modem is on com3. The instruction for ttys setup seem clear;
>but even when I try to manually enable the terminal, it won't work.
>The screen comes on--but all it reacts to is the caps lock and numlock
>keys. To add to the confusion, I'm not even sure the terminal is working!
>Any hints or similar experience will help.
>
>*<chambles@usmcp6.bitnet>
>*Billy Chambless; University of Southern Mississippi
>* mwcbbs!madhax!billy

First thing to check is that your cabling is correct. Because a
terminal and an IBM-compatible PC both have DTE pinouts, you'll
need a null modem cable (or a null modem dongle); a straight-through
cable won't work.

<BG>




-- 
"Beware when the great God lets loose a thinker on this planet.
 Then all things are at risk. It is as when a conflagration has
 broken out in a great city, and no man knows what is safe, or
 where it will end."                   -- Ralph Waldo Emerson
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:51:00 +0200
From: Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de (Rudi Ferrari)
Subject: How good is the "vi"?
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
X-Comment-To: pechter@ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Pechter)
Organization: Magic Point of C.O.N. Project Cologne  *FRG* 


 > The 4.0 MWC stuff is pretty good.  The MKS stuff is excellent.
 > The two together would be unbeatable.

Aggree!

bye
(MKS User too :-)

      ____
Lambo/Rudi                     >>> internet: Rudi_Ferrari@con.fido.de <<<
~~~~~

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