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Date: 7 Nov 1992 00:13:17 -0500
From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
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Subject: Re: Miscellaneous other references and DYN's


^ Itchy and Scratchy: The Movie
^ -----------------------------
^ . . .
^ No one has come up with an explanation yet for "I regret nothing" as the man
^ falls off the drawbridge.

Stretch of the week:  Repeat the line in French,,

-- 
Chris Baird,,  <c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au>


Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: craigs@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Stace)
Subject: Itchy & Scrathy The Movie, Homer's Death
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 03:11:11 GMT

Well, we got it from God in Homer the Heretic that Homer will die at the end of
the season.  We get it from the episode guide that Homer will have a heart 
attack.  And we get it from I&S,TM that Homer will survive said heart attack,
and take Bart to the movies.

Geez, I can't wait till we start seeing time travel paradoxes or something. =->

->Stace<-
-- 
"Not just any gazelle!   The opinions above are not necessarily those of the 
 Thompson's Gazelle!"    University, or myself.  They are definitely those of
                         Mrs. Shapowski in Milwaukee, Wisconson.
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: cal@ee.ryerson.ca (Calvin Henry-Cotnam)
Subject: Re: flamers and two new discussions
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute, Toronto
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:29:08 GMT

jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
>
>A) I believe the 'official' spelling is "D'oh!".
>

Last Christmas, my son received the book version of the first Simpsons
episode, the Christmas one where they got SLH.

In the book, the text shows "D'oh".

This supports your belief of the official spelling.


Calvin Henry-Cotnam, CATE          |     MY CANADA INCLUDES CANADIANS!
Ryerson Polytechnical Institute    |
Toronto, Ontario, Canada           |              'nuff said.
From: arnold@pyramid.unr.edu (Bruce M Arnold)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: maggie driving the car
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:58:55 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

In article <Bx7EGE.A34@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> teek@flight.uwaterloo.ca (Prateek Dwivedi) writes:
>
>Maggie driving the car is from Saturday Night Live... late seventies
>early eighties.  I think the skit was called something like Felix the 
>Driving Cat.
>

didn't something like that JUST HAPPEN in Portland or something like that
where this hispanic kid was smart enough to take "THE CLUB" off of his
parents car, and drive it like 36 blocks before running in to a gas
station or something like that?  I'm not CRAZY, I know this happened..

And that's _TOONCES_THE_DRIVING_CAT_  and they are still doing it, but I
find more relation in my story then that skit series..

IMHO

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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: rcharbon@athena.mit.edu (Ray Charbonneau)
Subject: We miss you Raymond Chen!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:00:59 GMT

Remember the good old days when Raymond Chen would post episode capsules
remarkably soon after the show was aired so all the easy comments were made in
one article?

We all watched the same show.   The volume in this group has gone up
tremendously, making it nearly unreadable, because each scene in the show, now
matter how obvious, now gets at least two or three posts saying "Did you see..."
or "I thought it was reel cool that..."

Please read the whole thread before replying (I should also).  Please think about
signal to noise ratio.

Boy, am I getting old and grumpy!

-- 
Ray Charbonneau              | The fifth dentist makes all the money.
rcharbon@athena.mit.edu      |             -- me
MIT and the Library Systems Office are glad that I'm posting my opinions
here so that they don't have to listen to them anymore.
From: syracurg@lp.musc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: RE: Quotes and Scene Summaries
Date: 10 Nov 1992 08:18:32 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
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     A million thanks to the group who occassionally provides "quotes
  and COMPLETE scene summaries.
     However, could you please put something more distinctive in the
  Subject Line to alert us that the posting is THE "official" quotes
  and scene summary posting.
     Many of us don't have the time to read the 3-5 hundred-plus "minor"
  postings each week, but we sure don't want to miss the one posting
  that has the compilation of the most "useful" postings.
     Thanking you in advance for your attention to this matter, I remain
                                       mjs
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: jdonald@us.oracle.com (John R. Donald)
Subject: Re: Flanders has a Beta, eh?
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:16:39 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov6.060519.8687@udel.edu> wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu (Karl Wagenfuehr) writes:
>In article <BALDWIN.92Nov5154814@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil> baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin) writes:
>>
>>No, I thought of this too, but I'm almost certain that Flanders' house
>>is to the *right* [from the point of view of someone exiting the front
>>door] of the Simpson's.  It's certainly that way in the opening
>>credits.
>
>Yeah, but what's that worth?  Usually, the front door is to the right of
>the sofa when viewed head on, and in another room, but in I&S:TM the door
>was to the left and in the same room.
>
>I don't think the laws of physics hold in that nether-region which
>contains Springfield...
>                    ' ",      *
>Karl Wagenfuehr         ,         "Weisst du, wieviel Sternlein stehen an dem
>wagenfuh@huey.udel.edu  ,  '      blauen Himmelszelt?"  --Deutsches Volkslied

In the 'dead putting society', flander's house was at opposite sides of the
simpsons at different points during the episode.  i dont mind if it switches 
from show to show, but within a single show? 
-jd
-- 
"Good Idea, Boss."	- Homer Simpson

Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Re: I&S--TM (11/3/92)
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 22:02:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.135423.2087@cbfsb.cb.att.com> colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten) writes:
>In article <1d8m04INN8ef@cs.widener.edu>, STOLLER@dickinson.edu (Stoller, Richard) writes:
>> 
>> Among other gems, note that when Bart (or as it Homer?) watches a
>> "screaming Mexican soap opera," he gets a clownish guy in a sort
>> of grasshopper costume...sure enough, I can't recall his name, but
>> he's a loooong-running (15+ yrs?) kids' show on Televisa, the
>> Mexican quasimonopoly network, also seen on Spanish TV in the
>> US.  Hopefully someone can fill us in on his name...ends with
>> an accented "--in," I think, like "Chupoli'n."
>> 
>
>There's a guy in a bug suit on XUXA's show - is there a connection,
>or do they have a common origin?  Is there some kind of significance
>to guys in bug suits in Latino culture?
>
>marc colten

Like you, I've been watching too much TV. I wonder how many readers
of this newsgroup know who XUXA is.

--
Bruce Watson  wats@nyx.cs.du.edu  Toy Cows, Toy Cows in Africa, Toy Cows
From: giovin@medr3.ecs.umass.edu (Rocky J Giovinazzo)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Ayn Rand
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:18:31 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <1992Nov10.190936.24465@afit.af.mil> you write:
>I know there was a big thread here recently about an Ayn Rand reference
>on the Simpsons.  I don't want to get in a debate about her, but I did
>miss the episode, and I am intensely curious to know what happened.  If
>someone could post a synopsis of what happened during that scene, I
>would really appreciate it.
>

     In this episode, Marge was in a musical version of "Streetcar Named
Desire" (I think it was called "Streetcar!") and so it turned out that
Maggie needed to go to a daycare center.  The only one that's not
under investigation by the state is the Ayn Rand Center for Tots (or
something like that).  The head of the center is a very prude woman
who has apparently adopted some of the ideas of Ayn Rand 
"objectivism" (based upon her dialogue).  When the Simpsons bring Maggie
in she's reading "the Fountainhead Cookbook."  Maggie is then taken to 
a sort of plain room full of babies-- on the wall is a sign "A is A"
rather than the usual "A is [picture of an apple]."  Maggie's pacifier is locked
away in high cabinet or locker with a hundred or so other pacifiers.
In what I guess one might call the Ayn Rand tradition, Maggie takes
control and retrieves the pacifier through a series of complicated steps
(she has contraptions made from a Krusty doll, milk bottle, and other 
things that help her retrieve the pacifiers).  Later there's a scene
where Homer arrives to pick up Maggie and walks into a room full of
babies sucking on their pacifiers.  There's an echoing sucking sound as
Homer carefully and slowly walks through the sea of babies, gets 
Maggie, walks out backwards, and goes "Oooohhh babies."
     I hope I got this right--- There may have been Atlas Shrugged 
references that I didn't pick up since I haven't read it yet.

Rocky Giovinazzo
From: rkroll@unkaphaed.gbdata.com (Russell Kroll)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: maggie driving the car
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 02:53:49 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, Houston, TX

mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:

> Anyone else know a movie where a baby drives a car.....
> 
> -- 
> Michael Neylon   aka Masem the Great and Almighty Thermodynamics GOD!
>       //         | Senior, Chemical Engineering, Univ. of Toledo
>   \\ // Only the |   Summer Intern, NASA Lewis Research Center
> \  \X/   AMIGA!  |         mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu           /

 
I think the reference for Maggie driving is the intro for the Simpsons 
itself! It looks like she is _really_ driving until the "camera" swings 
out and shows her at her little play-thing. The episode with her actually 
driving made me think Marge would be there until I noticed - no Marge!

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From: jeremy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jeremy.l.radosh)
Subject: Re: Ref. Reach
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:52:29 GMT

In article <1dhemjINNsir@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Metzler) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.045141.23624@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, doli@troi.cc.rochester.edu (David Oliver) writes:
>|> Maggie heading for the moving fan is clearly ;^) a reference to _Willy
>|> Wonka and His Chocolate Factory_ (or whatever it's called).  Spitting image
>|> of the seen where the boy and his grandpa start floating toward the huge
>|> ceiling fan and only by burping can they escape.  Overall I was less than
>|> impressed with the pisode"
>|> 
>
>Cool!  Someone else noticed this one!  When that scene came on, I yelled
>"Charlie and the Chocolate Factory" and no one knew what I was talking
>about.


Just an open note to all us Simpsons fans (this kind of echos a previous 
posting, I know, but ...):

	We MUST learn to tell the difference between what is a
	REFERENCE/HOMAGE/COPY of another art form and

	what is merely SIMILAR visually.

These are two distinct things.  If you have trouble with the concept, here
are some exambles.

	REFERENCE/HOMAGE/COPY - Steamboat Itchy, King (Kong) Homer, Bart
	and Ms. Crabapple (shot through her legs a la Graduate), etc.

	SIMILAR visually - the fan and Maggie (could be Alien, Willy Wonka,
	and many B-movies I can't remember), Homer cocking his shotgun (THOTIII)
	(could be T2, True Grit, The Rifleman, etc).


Anyway, you get the idea.  

By the way, I am not flaming anyone with this posting.  Sometimes we video
junkies miss an occasional film and, therefore, might not know the full range
of possible interpretations.  A major purpose of a newsgroup like this is to
get the valuable input of the full range of experts / know-it-alls who
subscribe.  Please don't stop posting your observations, but perhaps a little
less "absoluteness" in your observations is warrented.

Just a thought,
Jeremy



-- 
  (\_/)          " Love to eat them mousies,
  |* *|              Mousie's what I love to eat.
  \>Y</            Bite they little heads off...
   `U'               Nibble on they tiny feet."       B.Kliban `75
From: m1tca00@fed.frb.gov (Thomas C. Allard)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: *MAGGIE SPEAKS-DEC.3 EPISODE*
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:35:58 GMT
Reply-To: m1tca00@fed.frb.gov (Thomas C. Allard)
Organization: Federal Reserve Board, Wash, DC

Boy, this really pisses me off!  Here I go and spend a great deal of effort not reading posts with SPOILERS and turning the TV off when Simpsons commercials come on, and some dufus has the brains to post a major plot development in the title!  It's too late now, but why don't you THINK about those of us who really enjoy SURPRISES.  Down-right insensitive.

Homer: Who'd a thought Darth Vader was Luke's father...

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 Like Berlin, 1930,
 All I crave is my escape"  --Dead Kennedys, "Saturday Night Holocaust"
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Subject: Re: Marge Gets a Job (11/5/992)
Reply-To: jondr@sco.com
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1992 18:50:46 GMT


I am not baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin).  I didn't say:
>Burns, in love with Marge, contemptuous (to the extent he thinks of
>him at all) of Homer, reacts to Homer's foolhardy demand for an
>apology and Marge's rejection, not with the same Burnsian wit and
>cunning he applied to the "Tom Jones Problem," but by relenting and
>bestowing on Marge and Homer the night of their lives.  TOTALLY out of
>character for Burns

not at all!  remember "blood feud" (conveniently rerun just a few weeks
ago)?  burns is going to destroy homer but smithers asks him to relent,
which he does... and then buys the simpsons a $30K olmec warrior god
sculpture!!

anyway, i thought it was hilarious.  one of the best episodes.  burns is one
of my favorite characters and i think they handled him with perfect
consistency.

-- 
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From: tina@diamond.UUCP (Tina Cacolice)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: mmmm....Soylent Green...
Date: 5 Nov 1992 17:42:30 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu

>
>This was in the Election Day special.  I think it's the best quote I've heard
>from the Simpsons in a long time!!
>
>Although no one I watched with got it... so if anyone DIDN'T get it, go rush
>out and see the movie Soylent Green.  It's fairly old, and VERY good.  I 
>don't want to spoil the joke by giving away the ending, but trust me, it
>was indeed an excellent line!
>
>-Dres


Hardly anyone I knew got it, either!  I had to explain it to them!
Pity, too, because it just isn't the same to hear it explained as to
actually SEE the movie.


-- 

"All the good signature file quotes are taken."

					-- responses to tina@rjlg.com
From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Happy Daze,,
Date: 13 Nov 1992 07:27:24 -0500
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
Distribution: world
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^ Everyone knows that Laverne and Shirley were friends of Fonzies that
^ went out with Richie and Potsie once, and proved popular enough to
^ justify their own series.

ObSimpsons: Didja know that Penny Marshall (Shirley) voiced
the still at large `Babysitter Bandit', Lucille Botzcowski, in
the first season episode ``Some Enchanted Evening''?

And could someone please tell me if the streak in Marge's hair
for the Halloween episode had the distinctive `Grateful Dead'
13 points?

-- 
Chris Baird,,  <c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au>

   I haven't always been a good kid, but, if I have to go to
   school tomorrow, I'll fail the test and be held back.  I just
   need one more day to study, Lord.  I need your help!
    -- Me reciting Bart, prior to the Comp.Arch exam. :-/
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Wondering about the 11/5 episode...
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:45:30 GMT

madera@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Gangster) writes:
>Did the school janitor actually say "tit" and get away with it?  =)

No, he said "teat".
From: david.CLark@analog.COM (David Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Bart's Teacher
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:02:36 GMT
Organization: Widener University Mail/News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu


		
OOPS!! I should have watched more closley. I said that the chalkboard in Mrs.
Krubapple's room had her name starting with a G. It actually said:
      
             Welcome
              Mrs. Krubapple
               Grade 4
Like Ned Flanders once said, "Everyone pulls a boner every once in a while."
Sorry for any alarm this may have caused.
      
                  Dave "Well, what can you do?" Clark
From: c8923075@mystra.newcastle.edu.au (Chris Baird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: I&STM
Date: 8 Nov 92 02:54:27 GMT
Organization: Abject Admirers of the younger Yeardley Smith
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.widener.edu


Sime sincerely remarks:
^ 
^ I think you people take this show much too seriously.
^ It is a cartoon.  Watch it as if it were one, because it is.
^ People obviously have varying opinions on how good episodes are, of course
^ but IT IS JUST A CARTOON DAMMIT SO DONT WORRY TOO MUCH ABOUT IT OK??!!??!!

Pffft,, there have been entire PhD's dedicated to the likes of William
Shakespeare, E.A. Poe, A.B. Patterson, et al.  In what way are ``The
Simpsons'' any different?

Please, it's usually considered impolite to trash someone else's
belief system...

-- El Bairdo,,
From: williams@ab.wvnet.edu (Tom Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Smithers is no brown-noser
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:34:26 GMT
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College


          Scoop for the night: Smithers is, ah, in love with Burns,
          who apparently has no reciprocal feelings.  He isn't just
          a toady: when Burns says, "Do you ever have that dream where
          they fly in through the window?",  we see Smithers imagine
          Burns doing the flying in, with romantic piano music.  I
          about fell on the floor.

-- 
                                                -Tom Williams
From: jacobw@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jacob Solomon Weinstein)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: [9F05] Marge Gets a Job - Faves and DYNs
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:37:52 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

Steve Stelter writes:
>
>A question: Can anybody schooled in such matters list the modern names
>for all those diseases Grampa listed?  I believe "the grippe" is more
>commonly known today as influenze, and "vapors" must be...well, I can
>guess what that is.  :)

You have a sick mind, my friend. The vapors, as far as I know, is an
archaic term for fainting spells, generally in women, and generally as 
the result of hysteria of some sort. But you're correct about "the
grippe"; Webster's New Collegiate Dictionary defines it as "an acute
febrile contagious virus desease identical with or resembling
influenza."

And they said majoring in English would never come in handy...
From: baldwin@csservera.scs.usna.navy.mil (J.D. Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.simpsons
Subject: Re: Marge Gets a Job (11/5/992)
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:43:25 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Dep't., U.S. Naval Academy, Annapolis, MD
In-reply-to: George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu's message of 06 Nov 92 12:27:08 -0400

In article <1992Nov6.162708.16870@samba.oit.unc.edu>
George.Harris@launchpad.unc.edu (George Harris) writes (quoting me):
>>The only realistic (i.e., consistent with the Simpsons world-view) way
>>out of this one would be to have Homer saved from Burns' wrath by some
>>incredibly lucky twist of fate.  (An alternative solution, I guess,
>>would be to have *Burns* reject *Marge*, but that would have to be
>>handled very cleverly, indeed.)  But to have Burns suddenly roll over
>>and make nice was really a deus ex machina.  The writers should be
>>ashamed of themselves.
>
>	You mean exactly as in Blood Feud?  We've seen this behavior before,
>so it isn't unexpected from Burns.  Plus, we got to see Tom Jones chained
>to stage.

But in "Blood Feud," there was an explanation and an epiphany brought
on by someone near and dear to Burns: Smithers.  This one just
happened, and qualifies as a deus ex machina if I've ever seen one.
The "Blood Feud" episode was out of character for Burns, but not as
grossly as this one was, and at least they tried to smooth it over a
bit in "Blood Feud."

>      The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
>	North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
>	   Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
>	      internet:  laUNChpad.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80

When are you folks at UNC going to revolt openly and lynch the sysadmins
who insist on this stupid "disclaimer" being appended to every message?
No one in his right mind thinks that UNC endorses your opinion of "The
Simpsons" or anything else.  Opinion is nearly universal that USENET is
a "common carrier" anyway.  Sorry, that's been building inside me for
a while, and it's not your fault.
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