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From: isupstud@bnr.ca
Subject: Re: Warner Brothers (was: Why tinytoons?)
Reply-To: tstrilch@sirius.uvic.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na,world
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:03:49 GMT

> One of the better-known lines, "Which way did he go, George, which way did he
> go?" comes from a film adaptation (starring Lon Chaney Jr.) of Steinbeck's _Of
> Mice and Men_. 

This was an excellent cartoon with two cats, one was over-sized and the 
other, pretty puny.  The smaller cat had the brains, and ordered the
big cat to go catch the mice.  This was incredible in how it related to
Steinbeck's _Of Mice and Men_.  I noticed this after reading the novel
(and watching the movie - can't wait to see the new adaptation) and brought
it to the attention of my Grade 12 english teacher.  Thanks to WB this
was one of the rare occasions that we got to watch cartoons in class.

-todd (giving credit where credit is due...  WB)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Warner Brothers (was: Why tinytoons?)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na,world
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:19:53 GMT

Heh.  The "Which way did he go, George?" line nearly got my father in big 
trouble with my mother back when I was really little.  Y'see, my Dad had never 
read _Mice and Men_, and my Mom had never seen the cartoons where the line was 
used.  So when he quoted it once, she immediately thought (because of the humor
he was trying to acheive) that he was being grossly insensitive to retarded 
people.  He, however, was clueless as to why she was angry.  Sometimes it 
doesn't pay to only get one side of a joke....}->
     Dave Van Domelen, had similar trouble with a Mighty Orbots quote....
From: jberger@novell.com (John Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Tim Curry
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:27:44 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <1avrtiINNt11@bigboote.WPI.EDU> megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23) writes:
>In article <BvrLF1.EwL@ulowell.ulowell.edu> bkeener@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian 
E. Keener) writes:>>I did recognize the name "Tim Curry", but couldn't place 
it... what has he>>	done before "Meggalomania"?
>
>Voice of Captain Hook on Fox, the evil dude in Fern Gully, doctor Petrov in
>The Hunt For Red October, The clown in the miniseries IT, the linguist in 
>Oscar, I think he was in Annie, and of course, his most famous and enduring
>role...
>
>Frank N' Furter from the Rocky Horror Picture Show.

Also, barely recognizable in costume, as Rum Tum Tugger in the video of the 
same name from the musical "CATS".
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney,rec.collecting,misc.forsale
From: blee@bcarh13d.bnr.ca (Brian Lee)
Subject:  Roger Rabit Production Animation Cel forsale	
Keywords: Animation cel, Roger Rabbit
Reply-To: blee@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:48:48 GMT

As priorities change, so must assests.

  I am selling a production cel, mounted and framed, from Who Framed
Roger Rabbit.  Complete with certificate of authenticity.  It is from
about 35 minutes into the movie when Roger is explaining to Eddy that
he has been framed.  There is a black and white photo background from
the movie scene mounted behind the cel.

  A cell from a few frames later sold for greater than $3500 at the 
Southeby's auction in June of 1990.  I am asking $2500.

  Serious inquires only please.  I can make pictures or photocopies
available on request.


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From: pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR animation
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:53:44 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <ed.718727958@cwis>, ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:
>The mention of Don Bluth animation made me remember one of my all-time
>hugest wishes...for the laser-disks of the arcade games DRAGON'S LAIR
>and DRAGON'S LAIR II to come out in complete format.  Y'know, playing
>from beginning to end (perhaps with all of the "deaths" played as a tag
>on at the end?).
> 

Yeah, at the average sf con or Comic Con, you can pick up a tape
with all the footage for LD games. I have one with: Dragon's Lair,
Dragon's Lair II, Space Ace, that helicopter game, and Cliff Hanger
(Yay!). 

It's a bad-quality tape, and the scenes get pretty repetitious (if a
scene is sometimes mirror-imaged, that means it's on the disk twice:
once in each direction), but interesting nonetheless.

I got mine at the San Diego Comic Con for $20.

 -Paul "Monty" Ashley
   (Death scenes are at the appropriate place in the action, which
slows things down immensely. I'm pretty sure they just recorded
laser disk-to-tape.)
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney)
Subject: Re: The New Adventures of Mighty Mouse (bakshi/kricfalusi)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:04:07 GMT

In article <ed.719049163@cwis> ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:
>You may have guessed it, I'm looking for a complete episode guide and a
>place to get copies of this great toon.
> 
I think I can help you with the episode guide and soon as you clarify one 
thing. Are you looking for "Mighty Mouse: The New Adventures" or "The New
Adventures of Mighty Mouse and Heckle and Jeckle"? The first was a Bakshi 
Animation Production and the other was by Filmation and also included Quackula.
(If you want the later I have the Heckle and Jeckle list as well?)

Michael
 a.k.a. The Phantom Scribbler 

 - Hey, psst, whoever's in charge here, the scenery, where's the scenery?

Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Peanuts List and dra.com
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:06:57 GMT

Well, I just checked the dra.com list, and there are 137 Peanuts books just by 
Schulz, including a handful of foreign editions.  There's also about 20-30 more
by other authors, either about Schulz or featuring Peanuts chara, like the 
Snoopy's Fact Books. Whew.
     Dave Van Domelen, now my machine is lagging...great }-<
From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: LTV: "The Killing of an Egg" not very new...
Date: 8 Oct 1992 07:46:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
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I was a little disappointed to see "The Killing of an Egg" on
LIQUID TELEVISION.  It's not that it's bad or anything: it's just
that I've seen it enough times to barf.  It was one of the very
few things that Nickelodeon used to fill in the minutes of open
time after DANGERMOUSE.  I thought that LTV was supposed to be
fresh, new, cutting-edge animation and all that rot...

			---------- Ryan Mathews
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From: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Subject: Re: x-men promos
Originator: gamg6900@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 03:30:20 GMT

v131p9t3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ninstar Cybermage - Back Again from the Mists!) writes:

>In article <1blq16INNhpg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes...
>>>You can gripe if you want, but what would you have to gripe about if they
>>>hadn't put it out at all?
>> 
>>Nothing, but the half-hour might be used for something worthwhile.  :-P

>Highly unlikely.  Could you please save your complaints until AFTER the
>premiere date?  Geez, Ryan, you'd think you'd seen the whole series already.

>I'd have to agree that there's little hope of the atmosphere of the comics.
>Batman can get away with alot.  Xmen is on saturday mornings.  But let's see
>it first, okay?

When does the X-men series premiere (on Fox, right)?

						Greg Martin
						g-martin1@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Subject: Re: Cool World
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 19:20:46 GMT

In article <Bw4CHK.Hs7@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney) writes:
>Hey does anybody out there know when Cool World is supposed to come out on 
>video? And when it does, will it be priced to sell?  It wasn't exactly the
>best movie I've ever seen, but what the hey I've got to have some fun!
>
>Michael

Paramount has not officially announced when, but Video Store magazine has
projected it for release in December (and they are rarely wrong on dates),
and were projecting it would NOT be priced at sell-through.  Paramount likely
needs to recoup a larger portion of the umpteen millions spent in production
and marketing  thru video sales than was actually made in the theaters (only
grossing 13.7 million in the theaters)

Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
Taking into account movies that have been in theaters from Mar 1 to Sept
21, 92, including movies like Hook and Addams Family which were still 
lingering on, in total box office grosses, Cool World ended up a 
disappointing 59th.

Animated films on the top box office 100

Beauty and the Beast 2nd-144.8 million (2nd behind Batman returns)
Ferngully 45th-20.9 mil
Pinocchio 52nd-18.7 mil
Cool World 59th-13.7 mil
Great Mouse Detective 62nd-13 mil
Rock-a-Doodle 65th-11.6 mil
Bebe's Kids 74th-7.5 mil



> a.k.a. The Phantom Scribbler
>
> - Your teeth are like pearls, real ones, no dime store phonies!
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: the original "tiny to
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:42:20 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

RB>"Could Junior {Sylvester, Jr.} be considered the first "Tiny Toon"?

     Don't forget Baby Bugsy Bunny and Baby Elmer from the classic Bob
     Clampett cartoon "The Old Grey Hare."  One of Clampett's finest
     cartoons - especially the bit where the dynamite goes off during
     the "That's All Folks!" ending credit.
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Subject: Batman: TAS  "Mad As A Hatter"
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 13 Oct 92 09:07:00 EDT
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

"Mad As A Hatter" was a good episode, but it needed more craziness.  The
scientist should've been more crazy instead of the calm guy act thru most of
the show.  All around good show!


BTW, BTAS fans have began quoting the show.  Here's mine:

"I'm an equal opportunaty crime fighter!"
  -- Batman to CatWoman, "Cat & The Claw Part II"

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From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: DRAGON'S LAIR animation
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:41:22 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <adamsd.718987199@crash.cts.com>, adamsd@crash.cts.com (Adams
Douglas) writes:
>In <ed.718727958@cwis> ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:
>>The mention of Don Bluth animation made me remember one of my all-time
>>hugest wishes...for the laser-disks of the arcade games DRAGON'S LAIR
>>and DRAGON'S LAIR II to come out in complete format.  
>
>Tapes _do_ exist. My friend Heidi Guedel (one of the animators on DL & DLII)
>has them, but even she had to get them transferred from the LD's of a 
>dismantled game. I have seen _very_ bad copies (6th generation or so) floating
>around cons and such. I think you'll just have to get lucky.

Hm, if it's not too much trouble, could you ask Heidi about scenes taken out of
the arcade release of DL2, I heard in rec.games.video.arcade that there was a
scene where Dirk warped to the future and bumped into Dexter from Space Ace. I
left E-Mail to the poster, but never got any reply. I don't know whether this
would be on the LD used by the arcade unit (haven't heard from anyone that owns
a disc of DL2, DL1 yes...).  Anyway I would really appreciate any information
you (or anyone else) would have on this...

Bobby Tribble  |8')
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From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: BTAS: Prophecy of *gag* Doom
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:32:47 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Oct7.022859.14699@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>     Dave Van Domelen, at the end you might say Nostromo had the weight of
>world on his shoulders

Alright, this seems pretty obvious, but I haven't seen it mentioned...

Nostromos = Nostradamus  of course
Lucas = George Lucas, with neat special effects?

I liked Nostromos' eyeshadow (a tad heavy) but why did he wear it in jail? Or
are his eyes naturally like that? Oh well, and I guess it's just a coincidence
that Mr. Freeze's name is actually Frieze (sp). I liked Freeze's voice (the
first time around the Jerry Lewis telethon was shown instead of that
episode...:(
From: boehmer9694@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: x-men promos
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:50:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: iscsvax.1992Oct15.005006.7680
Organization: University of Northern Iowa


>In article <Ueqgrb200Uh_41ZXtd@andrew.cmu.edu> Chris Holly <maverick+@CMU.EDU> writes:
>>From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews):
>>
>>>One of the best things about X-MEN when Claremont was writing it was the
>>>"edge" it had.  The X-Men were not happy heroes, indeed, they weren't even
>>>seen as heroes by most of the public.
>>
>>>What do you want to bet the X-MEN will be portrayed as prototypical Good
>>>Guys, while Magneto laughs maniacally and plots Evil Scheme after Evil
>>>Scheme?  There's another character ruined.  The reformed Magneto was one of
>>>the best characters in the Marvel Universe.
>>> 
>>>R.I.P.  X-Men, marketed to death, 1992.
>>
>>    One of the main subplots of the new X-men series is rumored to be
>>the false accusal, arrest, and conviction of the beast.  How is that for
>>"happy heroes" and prototypical good guys.
>
>Whereupon he will be attacked while in prison, and either (a) spirited
>away during the fight, getting him into more hot water, or (b) saves the
>life of a guard, judge, innocent, or whatever and people realize they were
>wrong.  We've been through this before.
>
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Uhm...guys...
To be blunt, if you don't want to watch it, don't.
Personally, I think that if the show is done half as well as Batman:TAS, it
should be great. (or I could watch it the good half of the time and it would be
awesome! :) )
You can gripe if you want, but what would you have to gripe about if they
hadn't put it out at all?
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From: bkeener@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian E. Keener)
Subject: Review of LTV show 2:3
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:53:44 GMT

NOTE : Show title is as follows... <season>:<show>

	I saw the 10/6 episode of Liquid Television, and, well...
	I guess it was just too kinda "out there".  There was no Aeon Flux,
although there had been the two weeks previous.  That was weird.
	I can't stand Nordo and the House, or whatever that is.  "Dogboy",
well... you know how I feel about that skit...
	The film "Meggamorphasis", which I had been looking forward to, was
okay, but the ending was a bit lame-ish.  The "Bobby and Billy" skit I can't
stand... I guess it just hits me wrong.  "The Killing of an Egg" was okay, but
it should've been cut long before it was... there was no need to run through
the entire sequence again.
	The skit about the dog (can't remember the name) was okay, but a bit
tedious.  Once again, Was (not was)'s music is set to animation. (remember
"Hello, Dad... I'm in jail"?)
	All in all, the third show was a bit of a letdown, especially after
the quality of the second one.
	One final note... "Joe Normal" was good, but I didn't like it, for
whatever reason.  Also, I absolutely LOVED the excerpt from "The Concert".
	Next week is not looking too interesting, but... who knows?

							-MetalMaster (Ed)
From: v131p9t3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ninstar Cybermage - Back Again from the Mists!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Batman: TAS  "Mad As A Hatter"
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:15:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct13.090700.1369@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu>, ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu writes...
>"I'm an equal opportunity crime fighter!"
>  -- Batman to CatWoman, "Cat & The Claw Part II"
                ^^^^^^^^^

That's Batman to Red Claw.


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From: srh3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Steven R. Hollis)
Subject: voice of mad hatter
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:37:57 GMT

   I erased the credits on this one.  Who did the voice for the hatter?

Steve

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From: lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca (George Lindholm)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Knick Knack?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 21:04:12 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services, UBC, Canada
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In article <Bvux44.Jr1@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.154954.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu> walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
>>
>>I don't remember the name of the festival).  The short was called "Knick
>>Knack" and concerned the adventures of a snowman trying to get out of one of
>>those water-filled plastic balls that you shake to make it snow.  I
>>believe it was computer animated.
...
>the cartoon at all so I'm not complaining. (Incidently the other cartoon I've
>seen in this format involves two desk lamps playing with a ball)
Luxo Jr.

I have also seen "Tin Toy" which has a malicious baby terrifying his/her toys.

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From: scottw@src4src.linet.org (Scott Weintraub)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: LTV: Where's Dear Mum?
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:51:18 GMT
Organization: The Source for Source Pub Access Unix

It seems that Aeon Flux was the only series that carried over from the first
season of Liquid Television.  I don't miss skits like the Art School Girls
from Hell but I would love to see some more Dear Mum!

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From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: x-men promos
Date: 13 Oct 92 06:16:06 GMT
Reply-To: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, sssines@bluemoon.rn.com (Shawn Eric Sines) says:

>Is it just me or does the animation look awful for the x-men series.. 
>Beast looks awkward and disproportionate, and Gambit looked anorexic!
>        Part of me dreads seeing this series...

I plan never to watch this series, unless I hear it's incredibly good.
I just don't think I could bear to watch the further degradation of a
comic series that used to be one of the greatest pleasures in my life,
before it was turned into a pale shadow of itself by a comics publisher
that couldn't see past the dollar signs.

One of the best things about X-MEN when Claremont was writing it was the
"edge" it had.  The X-Men were not happy heroes, indeed, they weren't even
seen as heroes by most of the public.

What do you want to bet the X-MEN will be portrayed as prototypical Good
Guys, while Magneto laughs maniacally and plots Evil Scheme after Evil
Scheme?  There's another character ruined.  The reformed Magneto was one of
the best characters in the Marvel Universe.

R.I.P.  X-Men, marketed to death, 1992.

			---------- Ryan Mathews
 
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