From: kdq@quest.UUCP (Kevin D. Quitt)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.offered,misc.jobs.offered.entry,misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for work in Southern Cal?
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:49:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: quest.mwoVRB1w165w
Reply-To: srhqla!quest!kdq
Organization: Job quest  (805) 251-8210,  So Cal: (800) 400-8210

My apologies in advance to those not involved in this discussion.  I'm
running from WAFFLE, so I can't change the newsgroups or follow-up
header lines.  I invited flamers to talk to me directly (one left a
message on my phone: "get stuffed", but this one insists on burning
everyone's bandwidth.  After this post, I will not follow this thread,
but I'm perfectly willing to discuss it directly.


hamon@a.cs.okstate.edu (HAMON SHARON ANN) writes:

> WOW!  Free seminars to do what any college graduate should have the
> brains to figure out his/herself!

And yet, they don't figure it out!  Imagine that!  Do you mean to say
you didn't derive the Calculus from first principles?  Why not?  You
have the brains for it!

Most people never learn how to efficiently search for a job.  This is
why your college probably also has seminars available on the same
subjects, if you know where to go.  People who've been working for a
number of years *certainly* don't have sharp job search skills, if they
ever had.


>  And only $2.50 per resume, instead 
> of the $0.29 it costs for everyone else!  What a bargain!

Which includes doing the research into finding which companies are
doing the kind of work this person wants to be doing, and putting them
in touch with the people in the organization who are going to decide to
hire them, not just to the Human Resources circular file.  And actually,
we figure the cost at $1.25 per mailed resume with a custom cover
letter laser printed on 25% cotton bond, and $125 to do the research
(minus the $25 I promised elsewhere for netters).

How many hours would it take *you* to find 100 companies that are (for
example): in a specific business, minority owned, within 15 miles of
your home, between 50 and 150 employees, that make at least $50M/year,
and that've been profitable for at least 3 of the last 5 years?  (How
much do *you* get per hour?)  Now add in finding out the name of the
V.P. of Engineering, addressing and individualizing cover letters and
envelopes to these people, signing, stuffing, stamping, and mailing
these letters so they arrive at the best time during the week so that
they're not ignored.

For that matter, how capable are *you* of really writing a good
one-page resume, or a really good cover letter?  If you're typical of
most college grads, you're not capable of turning out an entire letter
that is free of both spelling and grammar errors (note the
"his/herself" above and "clientelle" below.)  Oh, and by the way, for
your $0.29, you must be getting free copying service, and stealing the
letterhead and envelopes.


> I can't see what everyone's complaining about...what service!  What 
> expertise!  No *wonder* his clientelle is so happy!

My clients are happy because they find jobs quickly, and usually have a
choice between several job offers at the same time.

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Kevin D. Quitt                                 Job Quest (800) 400-8210
srhqla!quest!kdq                               Learn How to Get a Job in SoCal

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