HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: advice on gear 
Keywords: cover, luggage, alarm
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 04:54:29 GMT

alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming) writes:

>Alarm:
>   I was taken aback by the prices of motorcycle alarms (I'd heard
>   about car alarms killing batteries) but decided it was cheaper
>   than buying a new bike.  With that in mind, I decided to buy the
>   best one I could find.  I re-read the Cycle World alarm test from
>   '91 and decided that Ungo was the way to go.  I bought their 2000
>   for $230.00 and will install it on the next clear weekend.  It 
>   looks very complete, though they did replace the Fiamm (official
>   beeper of the net) for a siren.  I didn't pay for the beeper add
>   on since I'm more interested in it making lots of noise when
>   the bike is touched.

I've put an Ungo Box on the FJ as well. Ungo (Techne is the name of the
company) seems to have the best motion detector on the market, a mercury
filled tube surrounded with a coil. They are also the only company I'm
aware of that makes both cage and bike alarms, and I wanted to alarm the
truck and the FJ and have a single remote control both. I bought the
alarms from a local stereo shop (Techne will not sell the car alarms
direct), and got the bike alarm for a bit under $200.

>Gloves:
>   I wanted the Fieldsheer Road Racing Gloves, but didn't have the 
>   money do get them.  I bought the OSI gloves which work well.  They
>   don't fit as well as I'd like, but do fit as well as any other
>   gloves I tried.  I'm of the "No studded palms" opinion.  (There's
>   a statement looking for smart-ass replies.)

Cycle magazine reviewed a bunch of racing gloves a couple of years ago,
they seemed to think that studs were more for show than protection.
Their pick were the Z Custom Deer Traks, which have foam and a double
layer of thick deerskin in the palm. To quote them "these are the
gloves we'd wear if we knew that we were going to crash". Good enough
for me, and they're the softest, most comfortable gloves I've owned as
well.

>Other:
>   NOJ Quiet Rider is a must!  I can't believe the difference.

Yep, but be prepared for fogging problems in cold weather.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Big Yam?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:12:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov06.150519.10331@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
|David Svoboda (svoboda@rtsg.mot.com) wrote:
|: 
|: Does Nick M. Lud have a DoD number?  Not on my copy of The List he
|: doesn't.  How 'bout it, did ANYONE on this side of the puddle ever get 
|: mail to him?
|: 
|Oh ignorant one you art.  

Hmmm.  What, me worry?

|Did you check The List?  

No, no, no.  I never said I checked The List, I said I checked *my copy* of
The List.  Not having a nailed-up PsychicNet connection to the KotL, I can't
be expected to keep up with every newbie she inducts.

|I have both a number (1069)

Congrats.

|and an address: biker@spuddy.uucp or !uknet!axion!spuddy!!biker or
|                biker%spuddy.uucp@uknet.ac.uk 

Okay, I'll try again.  Unfortunately, my mail was being either returned at
spuddy, or swollowed without a trace, so it is not something I can really
do anything about at my end.

|which I maintain at my own
|expense as my Company does not give me Email access.  

Proud of you.

|Several DoDers have 
|contacted me with very little difficulty.  What's the problem, Computerphobia?

No.  The problem is spuddy.

|Mind you, judging from your last two harangues (which were identical by the way
|RTFM!) I am not sure if I want you taking up space in my mail box.....

Oh, gee, Nick, I didn't figure you the type to be thin skinned, considering the
shit you spew forth.  I just never took you for a person who required a smiley.

What manual?

|Nick (the Mortally Offended Biker)

Mortally Offended?  We won't be hearing from you any more, then?

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: high mileage
Date: 11 Nov 1992 14:30:37 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
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Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu



In article <9901070@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney) writes:
|> In rec.motorcycles, henrik@tde.lth.se (Henrik B|rjeson) writes:
|> 
|> > I saw in the paper yesterday an advert for an old Honda CB 750 at a
|> > very affordable price. The problem is that the bike has run approx. 
|> > 18000 miles which seems to be a rather high mileage compared to
|> > others.
|> > 
|> > Does anybody have any experience on how many miles one may assume that
|> > an engine will last. Are there models more prone to wear than others ?
|> > Which parts wear out and what should you look for
|> > buying such a high mileage bike? Is it at all recommended ?
|> 
|> 18k miles is still a nubile!  At 35k I had to replace a valve on my 750
|> (probably due to my own negligence in service).  Other than the bad valve,
|> everything else in the top end was still well within specification.
|> Piston, rings, cylinder, valves & guides, cam...  I'd say that motor should
|> be good for at least 70k miles if well maintained.  

Here! Here! 18K, especially if it's an 'old' bike(greater than 4 years
old?) is pretty low . . . I'd question the health of the bike too . . 
. . . but towards the question of 'why doesn't it have more mileage?'.

I see a lot of bikes that are 5-10 years old and only have 5-7K miles
on them . . . . and I remember the old ladies in my neighborhood when
I was growing up . . . . they'd drive to church on sunday and to the
market a couple times a week . . . . . they would end up with engine
problems because they didn't drive the car enough . . or hard enough
to keep it clean(inside) and in good working/lubricated order.

I've got 25K on my Magna(V-4 engine) and haven't had a lick of
trouble to date . . knock on wood.  I'm in a position now where I
can put 1000+ miles on it a month . . . and it seems to shrug the miles
off with no problems . . . of course, keeping it maintained helps, too! ;-)


|> 
|> Ask Steve Garnier about hi-mile inline fours.

I hope I can come close to Steve's odometer readings!! ;-)

Mark 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Spanning The Globe
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:34:32 GMT

In article <1dk16kINNea@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 27504@rd.hydro.on.ca, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>>
>>85% of all statistics quoted to prove a point are made up on the spot.
>
>Excuse me, but can you cite a source for this?

By jove, I think he's got it!

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Re: bikes for teh candidates...
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 00:30:40 GMT


>Do you have *any* evidence for the assertion that
>Clinton would "support the most anti-motorcycle legislation 
>you could imagine"?
>
>Has he done so in Arkansas?
>-- 
>   Brice Dowaliby, 


     I don't know whether Clinton had anything to do with it, but
Arkansas does have "anti-motorcycle" laws.



Ed Campbell

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


*************************************************************
   "Never trust anyone in a cage, if they weren't nuts
    they'd be on a scoot like anybody else."
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: Rubber brake hose failure?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:51:55 GMT
Reply-To: pooder@msus1.msus.edu
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Nov11.130805.16627@bnr.ca>, space%bnr.ca (Scott Pace) writes:
|> 
|> The owners manual for both of my bikes (both Suzuki) says that all
|> hydraulic brake lines should be replaced every two years.  These are
|> expensive items!  I know I could put SS lines on, but that is still
|> expensive.  One of the bikes is a '79, and probably still has the original
|> hoses.  The hoses look to be in fine shape, and I can make the front tire
|> chirp quite easily on dry roads (Metzler ME33 V rated).
|> 
|> Has anyone ever heard of rubber brake hoses failing, or is Suzuki just
|> trying to cover their ass?
|> 
|> --
|> Scott Pace, space@bnr.ca - the final frontier

Sounds like CYA to me.  Harvey's got his original hoses; they're in good
shape.  I check the brake hoses on both motorcycles regularly and if there 
is ever any damage I'll replace them, but I never have.

-- 

   Pooder  -  Rochester, MN   -  DoD #591  -  LotN (Loser of the Number) 
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  "What Do *You* Care What Other People Think?" -- Richard Feynman 
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   I share garage space with:   Gretchen - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500  
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From: mikel@pdx165.intel.com (Mike Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tracks
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:51:36 GMT
Reply-To: mikel@ichips.intel.com
Organization: Workgroup Computing Division, PDX, Intel

In article <BxH38E.A2L@news.iastate.edu>, tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
|> In article <1353@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
|> 
|> Just curious: how far does the average weekend racer have to drive to get to 
|> a track in other parts of the country?
|> 
|> CP Tomes
|> 

Portland Int'l:		15 minutes
Seattle Int'l:		3 hrs.
Sears Point:		12 hrs.


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hur@oclc.org (Matt Hur)
Subject: Re: Keith Code Racing School
Organization: OCLC Online Computer Library Center, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:32:41 GMT

Richard Acuff (acuff@CAMIS.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
 ...
: time on a track with a bike.  I got the book and video "Twist of the
: Wrist" when I signed up for the class and they had me wondering what I
: was getting into since I didn't like them a lot (the video was
: especially bad),
 ...
: 
: 	-- Rich
: 
What is the video like?  Could anyone who has viewed the video post a critique?
Why is it good/bad?  Is it worth getting?

Thanks,
Matt

-- 
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       #209           osu-cis!colnet!fssun10!hur(might work)
   FJ1200, CX650C
From: smead@hpstc01.rose.hp.com (Steve Smead)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: info on '74 cow for sale
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:43:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL6]

Was it this?:
1974 Kawasaki Mach II 400 triple.

Rare original mint condition except for new chambers (have stock pipes, too)
and new Daytona Yellow paint. 14,900 original miles with new pistons, rings,
2nd overbore 700 miles ago. Run perfect and is show ready. Even has original
seat in perfect condition. Asking $950 or best offer.

Steve Smead 916/743-0479 evenings/weekend or email smead@hpstc01.rose.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Subject: Re: MotoWear Aerostitch clone (Was: Re: Alternative uses for Aerostitch)
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:41:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.070235.2167@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
>Subject: MotoWear Aerostitch clone (Was: Re: Alternative uses for Aerostitch)
>Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:02:35 GMT

I looked at a Motowear suit about a year ago as a cheaper alternative to the 
Aerostitch. The only reason I didn't buy it was because the one piece did 
not fit. It's been a while, so I don't remember too many details, but it had 
few or no pockets, and no padding. Otherwise it appeared to be very well 
constructed and I figured it would offer equal abrasion protection to the 
Aerostitch. It did not have the clever zipper arrangement for getting in and 
out like the Aerostitch, just one up the middle zipper. I think it had a 
provision for adding foam padding at the elbows, shoulders, knees, and hips, 
but the one I looked at didn't have any padding in it. I also remember that 
the suit was quite warm, and figured it would really be uncomfortable on a 
hot day, as if by some miracle we'll ever get a hot day in Seattle. I rode 
around a little bit with the suit on, and found it quite stiff, even 
stiffer than a new Aerostitch. I would guess that it would loosen up in 
time like the Aerostitch. I wound up with an Aerostitch and am quite happy 
with it, but consider it an extravagance. I would have definitely gone for 
the Motorwear if they had one that fit. I looked at them at Seattle Cycle 
Center. The last time I was in there they didn't have any, so I don't know 
if they still carry them or not.

 - Steve
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Won't be in Colorado...
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:10:31 GMT

Not that the first part has the least thing to do with motos, but:

In Virginia, not only is it illegal for unmarried persons to have intercourse,
but even oral sex between husband and wife is prohibited by law.  Granted,
enforcement has been a bit lax, but still ...

ObMoto: I just took the Castrol GTX out of the Seca after 1300 miles.  It
looked really black, but with brown swirls through it (?).  The bike had been
briefly warmed up before the change (but not ridden), and there seemed to be
a lot of very small air bubbles in the oil as well.  Opinions?  Most of my
riding of late has been shorter trips (of 10 or fewer miles).

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|        Cliff Weston           DoD# 0598          '92 Seca II (Tem)       |
|                                                                          |
|   He gave his final rattle as he shot his pistons and bent his crank...  |
|                                                                          |
|                         -- Paul M Hounslow                               |
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From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: British rides
Date: 13 Nov 1992 17:19:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 29130@cbfsb.cb.att.com, jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>
>Ahem. My seester was at a party with her boyfriend. he = 17. she = 18.
>Cops busted in. She was charged w contributing to the sexual
>delinquincy(sp) of a minor.

"Contributing to the delinquency of a minor," I could believe, but
contributing to his *sexual* delinquency?!?  What exactly was she doing
to him?  :^)

In today's legal climate, I wouldn't be surprized at child molestation
laws being envoked in such a situation.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: meh0570@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.E. Herman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist on Skyline
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:20:51 GMT
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: meh0570@ultb

In article <1dml1sINNfh@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article 3K4@news.iastate.edu, tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>>
>>I may be forced to wear my helmet (instead of making an 
>>informed choice to wear it) because the twenty years of riders before me
>>compiled some truly nauseating statistics on head injuries 
>
>Wrong.  I have never seen any statistics compiled on the head injuries
>of twenty years worth of helmetless riders.  Helmet laws are pushed by
>special interests, and justified to the public by lies and hand-waving,
>"common sense" arguments.  Solid data on helmet-preventable motorcycle
>injuries, and their social costs, are glaringly absent.
>
>
>---
>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
>  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
>DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
> (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
>

I beg to differ, read the Hurt report.

I belive he may have done more than one study but
he seems to have done a good job and I did not see
him as political.   

I read it awhile back and found it intresting, but
forget the details.

I wont quote cause I dont want to get it wrong.

JC
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746)
Subject: Re: R100GS final drive trouble
Originator: lawrence@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:40:38 GMT

...
>> Once there, the determination was made that the oil in the final
>> drive had absorbed so much water that it had overflowed through
>> the breather.  (Oops!)  The fact that I have to ride in the rain
>> quite a bit doesn't help the situation.  Also, my trips tend
>> to be fairly short (10-15 miles) so, I'm told, the water doesn't
>> get a chance to heat up boil out of the oil in the drive.
>> -John H. Osborn                     - Boycott Colorado
...
> 
> Yeah, you should have bought a Yamaha.  The final drive is never 
> going to get hot enough to boil the water off.  Go for a long drive 
> and put your hand on the drive case.  Sounds like you've got water 
> leaking in from someplace where it shouldn't.  Or it could have 
> nothing to do with water at all.  Could be the case seal is leaking 
> oil.
> ..............Dr. Doom 

Not to BMW-bash or anything ( I am looking for a sidecar rig, and many of
those are likely to be BMW /2 based ){got one/know of one for sale? email me
details, please.} But I'd have to agree. I ride a Yamaha 650 Maxim in all 
weather in Ithaca NY, a rather rainy place. I do not get water in my final
drive fluid. When it's fairly cold (less than 20F/-7C) I occasionally get
some spew from the breather, which appears to be from the oil being "stringy"
when it's that cold, and getting flung off the ring gear. Using 80W instead
of 80W-90 helps somewhat with this. I ride 5 miles to work, always on the
bike unless there is ice on the road or freezing precipitation.
I park outside. I rarely cover the bike except in winter. The breather is
not, as someone else cracked, "made of GoreTex"; it is simply designed
properly so that water does not get in it. In my experience it is also not
designed to deal properly with very cold riding, but it never spews very much
(hardly ever enough to drip off the final drive case) so that is not a big
problem.

-Lawrence Smith, MSC Computing Staff - Cornell Univ., Ithaca, NY
 lawrence@msc.cornell.edu lawrence@crnlmsc2.bitnet (607)255-6064
-Cats, Coffee, Chocolate... Vices to live by. DoD# i
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Subject: Re: High speed in USA?
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:14:35 GMT


>In article <1992Nov12.231716.27@iris-dcp.es>, marrevola@iris-dcp.es wrote:
>> 
>> Do bike-riders go fast in US? How many of you have been arrested?


I have occasionally exceeded the national speed limit. My personal best was 
an indicated 155 mph on a ZX-7 early on a Saturday morning on a Texas farm 
road. I will from time to time cruise at the official DoD speed here in the 
U.S., but save the really fast riding for Canada. I have found that the 
speed limits there are quite reasonable if one simply converts kph to mph, 
but leaves the numbers the same. I have been cited for speeding in the U.S. 
My last three citations have been for 30 in a 25, 35 in a 30, and 60 in a 
55. Had to pay a fine each time. I really worry about getting stopped for 
110 in a 50, but it hasn't happened yet. If it does, I'll simply assure the 
officer of my support for the mandatory helmet law, and he'll probably let 
me off with a warning. It might happen. And monkeys might fly out of my butt.

 - Steve
DoD # 1951, COG, HOG, AMA
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Lies, Lies, Lies
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:54:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: rd.1992Nov5.145417.4222
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division

All from the previous owner of my RZ 350, who bought it *new* only a few
months earlier...

The ad: "brand new, mint condition, this is a great bike!"
about original keys: "lost 'em"
about owners manual: "lost it"
about rear fender: "it fell off"
about the lack of decals on the upper fairing: "the bike came that way" 
about the dented tank: "oh"
about the fact that the bike was registered as unplated two months before
   we test rode it with a plate: "I took it off the road when I had an 
                                  operation"
about the fact that the clutch slipped so badly that he could not get it
    moving: "I can't understand it, the clutch never slipped before. I'll get 
             it fixed under warranty before you pick it up."

The price, at least, was fair. Be careful out there.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada