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From: prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: More about India
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:41:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: coe.1992Oct6.174153.15261
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717

In article <1992Oct6.154901.20584@cis.ohio-state.edu> chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.150358.28380@coe.montana.edu> prem@cs.montana.edu (M.P.Premkumar) writes:
>
>>Maybe eave teasing happens in Madras, Bangalore and Calcutta too. Anybody
>>heard of any eave teasing in towns and villages ? 
>
>
>Actualy in Trichy, I have seen groups of men with long poles standing
>around houses with eaves, and poking and poking at the eaves.  Maybe
>you want to whitewash such incidents, but in my book that is
>eave-teasing. :-)
>

What did you do about it ?

Sincerely yours,
M.P.Premkumar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: Info Needed: Book on Rajiv Gandhi
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:45:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.140259.19064@usl.edu> sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep30.122507.19916@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> mmurali@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Murali Damodaran) writes:
>>>The book "RAJIV" by Sonia Gandhi is not out yet.
>[deleted]
>>	Where will they find 5000 fools to buy it ?? 
>Oh, finding 5000 fools is not as difficult as you think. Because you 
>...
>Plus there are one or two SCIers who are prepared to do it. (prepared to 
>buy the book, I mean :-) :-) :-) ) 
>--Sudhi.

One or Two!!!  With a 99.95 % fanatically-pro-nehruvian members on SCI,
you should be able to sell the book, advertizing it as the `Biography
of <in small print>-grandson of -<back to big print> Nehru'.

Watch the sales shoot up to the sky...


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Self-Appointed policeman, judge, jury and executioner
Date: 6 Oct 1992 22:38:23 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov

In article <1992Oct6.182210.25336@cbnews.cb.att.com> rnk@cbnews.cb.att.com (ram.n.kumar) writes:
>   The act of posting a test note does not deserve your kind of abuse
>   in a public forum.

	Hey man! Chill out! It was only intended as a light-hearted
	response to test messages. No need to get you hair up over it!

	And I don't remember appointing myself a policeman, judge, jury
	and executioner. Heck, I don't even want those jobs! Not when you
	seem to be doing such a great job of it.........

	I received 12 e-mail messages appreciating the flame. I only got 
	two counter-flames from you and someone else who didn't seem to 
	get the point. Interestingly, none of these were from the original 
	Testopadhyaya.

>   If you want to abuse me or call me names, for saying this,
>   go ahead and help yourself.

	No thank you! That ain't my style. I would recommend a 
	high fibre diet though......


>   [*] Flame in moderation, only when it is meaningful.
>   Send all flames to iceland.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
	And miss out on all the fun here ?? NO WAY !!

>bye.
>Ram Kumar

	Get a lifestyle!!

	Prem!
================================================================================
==  Threats and flames may waste your time, but they sure won't ever hurt me  ==
==   Sticks and stones may break my bones, but whips and chains excite me!!   ==
================================================================================
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32992 soc.culture.indian.telugu:349
From: reddyc@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU (Chandra Reddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,wpi.students.desis
Subject: An oxymoron (was Re: GOOD BYE!!!!)
Date: 5 Oct 92 07:07:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Oct05.070718.22461
Organization: Computing Services, University of British Columbia

In article <1aobm5INN7m7@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct5.012626.26922@engr.latech.edu> sista@latech.edu (Ravi K. Sista) writes:
|> >
|> 
|> And that's all, two posts at that...
|> 
|> What's wrong, did the departure leave you speechless?
|> 
|> BTW, all generalizations are false, don't put all the WPI people in the same
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wow! A neat example for an oxymoron! Also, for a meta-generalization!
What about the generalization you are making? Is it true? If yes, this
is a generalization that is true.  Hence your statement all
generalizations are false is false. I.e., true implies false -- an absurdity!

Cheers, Chandra.

PS: This is nothing personal against you, Mr(Ms). MegaZone23! 
    I couldn't resist commenting on the interesting statement you made.

|> group. How about I consider all Indian students to be the same?

[... .sig deleted ...]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,su.org.india,soc.culture.indian.american
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: List of movies
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 17:54:23 GMT


In article <Oct.2.22.42.36.1992.1584@crayola.rutgers.edu>
imam@crayola.rutgers.edu (Adil S. Imam) writes:
>
>> Roja
>>   Music director: Dilip Kumar (A.V. Raghuman)
>
>Are you sure that the music was directed by Dilip Kumar?

If you ask it from me, then I don't know.
I wait for updates...  :-)

Juhana Kouhia
From: nigam@mwunix (Alok Nigam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: $400 21 day air pass
Date: 27 Sep 92 00:37:57 GMT
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA

I understand that Indian Airlines has a $400, 21 day pass allowing
unlimited usage.  I would appreciate any comments on whether this is
worth the money, whether there is a problem actually getting reservations
on flights, etc.  Thanks.
--
Alok C. Nigam
(703) 883-6751
nigam@mitre.org
From: nkumar@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu (Naresh Kumar CHE Grad )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ****2ND OCTOBER:::::GANDHI JAYANTI****
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:33:11 GMT
Organization: College of Engg. & Tech., Ohio University, Athens, Ohio

In article <1992Oct2.140700.7643@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> smsriv@melkor.lerc.nasa.gov (Rakesh Srivastava) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.044844.17686@cc.uow.edu.au> g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:
>>
>>2nd October, 1992:
>
>It also is the birth anniversary of our first president Dr. Rajendra Prasad.
I am not sure of the above fact but 2nd October is also the birthday of
Lal Bahadur Shastri.
>
>>Gandhi Jayanti: National Holiday 
>>
>>Vaishnav jan to tene re kahiye
>>je pid parai janere
>>
>>???????????????????????????

>>Bye
>>Adil
>>
>
>Rakesh
>smsriv@melkor.lerc.nasa.gov

ciao 

naresh
From: ashish+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ashish Arora)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Should the government subsidize IITs etc?
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:29:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sem6VOC00WBOM21y9V
Distribution: na
Organization: Heinz School, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.indian: 29-Sep-92 Should the
government subsi.. by Ajai Banarji@unixg.ubc.c 
> 1) Considering that the country does gain some foreign exchange from the
> people who go abroad, is the money spent on their education really a dead
> loss? I can't say whether the 2 lakhs figure is accurate, but if it is, it
> is only about $7000-a rather small amount compared to the remittances
> over a few years.
The remitances are not made to the "country".  They are made to
relatives / friends. And given that Mr. Banarji would probably support
convertibility of the rupee, the "gain foreign exchange" argument does
not hold much water.

Mr. Banarji asks what IIT graduates are supposed to do in India given
that they are apparently trained far in excess of what is required by
Indian industry.  If  true, then that is not an argument for subsidising
the IITs.  To the contrary, it suggests that like many other
institutions subsidised by the Indian tax payer, IITs are not very
useful to the country.  (Assuming Mr. Banarji's argument is correct.)  

What is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander.  If market
capitalism is what works, then one also ought to support reducing
subsidies to higher education in India.

cheers
From: ngopalas@ha05.eng.ua.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: IIT's and REC's. Training factories for US? (was: NRI's returning to India
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:13:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Originator: ngopalas@ha05.eng.ua.edu
Julieline: see if this comes up.


[Godbole's and Vij's articles deleted to save BW]

I am glad NRI's are returning to India, this is quite commendable on their
part they feel enough for their home country to go back and serve there again.

I think we should talk about a more serious problem, the drain of talent from  
India. Subsidized education has taken its toll on the educational system in     
India. Why should the taxpayer pay for the IIT's and the REC's, when they      
are not going to serve the country by staying back and using their learning    
for the betterment of society which paid for their education. It is as if      
the IIT's and REC's were set up to train guys for the US industry] Compare     
this situation to the doctors who are also educated at taxpayer expense. They   
are required to work for five years in rural areas before they set up practice 
(mint money]) in cities. Similarly before engineers embark on the dollar hunt  
they should be made to work for a certain period of time in India. At the      
very least they should be made to pay back whatever the Govt has spent on their
education. A few thousand dollars will hardly make a difference in the pocket   
of the professionals here. If people are not willing to go back then they should
at least reimburse India for whatever she has spent on them. Sound reasonable? 
                                                                               
I myself am from IIT and know that the Govt spends nearly 2 lakhs on every     
BTech product. It's high time we stopped free-loading on the system and paid    
something back. I would like some honest opinions instead of rationalizations. 
                                                                               
Nath.                                                                          
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:33154 alt.culture.karnataka:78
From: kamala@npac.syr.edu (Kamala Anupindi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.karnataka
Subject: SPICMACAY Syracuse: Carnatic Vocal concert on October 10th
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:16:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center at Syracuse University (NPAC)


                 The Society for the Promotion of
                Indian Classical Music And Culture
                   Amongst Youth (SPIC-MACAY)
                           SYRACUSE


                       Proudly Presents
               (as a part of their FALL-FEST '92)

		
                  Carnatic Vocal Recital By


            *****************************************
                S A V I T H R I    R A M A N A N D
            *****************************************

                        Accompanied by

                  Mysore Venkatesh  (Mridangam)
                   Mysore Satish     (Violin)


                             ON
                  Saturday, October 10, 1992  


                            AT
                          7:00 pm
                  Room 500, Hall of Languages
                Syracuse University, Syracuse.

               -----------------------------------
               A D M I S S I O N   I S   F R E E ! 
               -----------------------------------

        
                Details of the other events are:


        -----------------------------------------------------

        October 16th: "Aparajito" Movie by Satyajit Ray
                       7:00 pm, Rm 202, Hall of Languages, S.U
     
        ------------------------------------------------------

        October 23rd: NADASAWARAM Recital (Mambalam Shiva and troupe)
                      7:00 pm, Marshall Auditorium, SUNY-ESF.

        ------------------------------------------------------


        For further information contact:
        Kamala Anupindi (kamala@top.cis.syr.edu) 474-8420
        Paramesh Santanam (psantana@cat.syr.edu) 428-9441
        L.Chandar (lchandar@rodan.acs.syr.edu)   423-3507


****************************************************************
                        Directions
****************************************************************

From 81 N

- Take exit 17
- Left at the stop sign at the end of the ramp
- Right at second light onto Salina street
- Right on second/third light onto East Colvin
        (there is a post-office on the left just before the turn)
- Left on the second light onto Comstock Ave
- Left on second light onto University Place
- Pass a guard booth and one stop sign 
- Just before a second stop sign Schine Students center
- Hall of Language's is opposite the Schine Center


From 81 S

- Take exit 17
- Right at end of ramp onto State Street
- Right at first light onto East Colvin
- Left on the second light onto Comstock Ave
- Left on second light onto University Place
- Pass a guard booth and one stop sign
- Just before a second stop sign Schine Students center
- Hall of Language's is opposite the Schine Center

===============================================================================
From: mathrubb@cse.fau.edu (Baski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: British Airways
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:53:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA
          I have not come across many travel agents offering competitive rates
  Thanx in advance
  Baski

--
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:32589 rec.music.indian.misc:2632
From: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,rec.music.indian.misc
Subject: Re: Attention PSU students!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:12:55 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <92274.110805GXS11@psuvm.psu.edu> GXS11@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>This note is of interest to Penn State Students, University Park.
>
>Hi! Preparation for the Cultural Programme for Diwali have begun.
>     This time we are going to do a 1/2 hour Play for Diwali. The
>script/screenplay is ready.  We are now looking for people to Act.
>If you are interested in taking part ...on the stage or even behind
>the stage...please give a call to
>                                 Gurmeet: (814)-867-3471  home
>                                          (814)-863-7182  lab
>
>     We need a lot of people to act (20-30) and hope you will
>     reply with enthusiasm and make it a success.
>                                        Thank You
>
>
>
>       Watch out for Penn State Natak Mandali's
>
>                        "SriMan SriRam"
>
>               A Friends of India Presentation

           Why in the blue blazes or rather why the f*** do you
	   waste bandwidth with local news postings?



	   gopa
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: How about it ?? (Was Re: Indian NFL)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:35:06 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley, California
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: prem.lbl.gov
Summary: Desi Football teams names

In article <1992Oct4.212936.6473@news.clarkson.edu>, rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor) writes:
> If anything, American Football was meant for Indians...

	Hi folks,
		This reminded me of a rather funny thread on s.c.i. a long 
	time ago, when I was in a place far away (Wisconsin, actually), and 
	most of the current contributors were preparing for their TOEFLs and
	sending out pre-apps.........

		It was about the names that would be appropriate for football
	teams in India, assuming we did have them. Y'know, like the ones out
	here.....

		Anyway, here are the ones I remember..... This list is by
	no means complete (the total list came to about 100 names), but I
	cannot access to the file I saved in school back then....It has
	probably been archived along with "my" desi limerick collection,
	Asjeet_Lamba's hindi movie dialogs, and various episodes of the
	Palvayanteeswaran saga....

		Enough intro, huh ?? Let's get on with it, I hear the guy
	in the back row say.... Okay, here are the ones that I remember....
	If you can think of some more, let us hear it!

		INDIAN FOOTBALL LEAGUE
		======================
		Khajuraho 	69ers
		Bombay    	Slumlords, Potholes
		Bangalore 	Chips, Brewers
		Kolhapur	Chappals
		Ayodhya		Pundits
		Cochin		Coconuts
		Chambal		Dakus
		Puri		Bhels, Panees
		Madras		Mamis
		Varanasi	Pandas, Paapis
		Channapatna	(need I say more??)
		Assam		Refugees
		Hyderabad	Curfews
		Bhopal		Victims
		Jallianwaala	Obituaries
		    :             :
		    :             :
		    :             :
	
		South Asian Football League
		===========================
		Jaffna		Tigers
		Faisalabad	Fakirs
		    :             :
		    :             :
		    :             :
		    :             :

	C'mon folks, let us hear your ideas..........!!!

	Prem!
================================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: romesh@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Romesh Jessani)
Subject: test
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:29:50 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: Laksmana rekha in Ramayanam
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:24:28 GMT

In article <20857@plains.NoDak.edu> ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:
>         I was reading the Aranya Kanda of a telugu (vachana) translation of
>Valmiki Ramayana and did not find any mention of Laksmana drawing a line ...
>
>        I have the gone through the Valmik Ramayanam itself (with text and
>Hindi translation) and did not find any such mention in any of the Hindi....
>
>       My question is: how did that story got current? It seems to be prevelant
>K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu


My childhood pastime, was to bug my grandparents and their siblings
(whenever the latter  visited us) to tell us ramayana & mahabharatam
and the various puranaas.

Their versions were always short -- (and since my generation was fed
on Amar Chitra Katha), we always pointed out `holes' in their stories
and asked them for `that version'(translated from telugu). of the
story just told.  They obliged obviously.

The holes rivalled the population of india, in sheer size.  What was
intersting, the `set of holes' was the same, no matter who told the
story.  Some of the very famous ones are :-

1. sita & agni-parikhsa
2. babhruvaahana
3. jataayu-raavana fight
4. how hanuman approached rama & lakshmana
5. How krishna counter sisupaala's sins etc...

You will find a bewildering variety.  I havent read the `originals'.
But (most of us) I have been fed only the politically correct versions
of the mahaa-granthaas.   That much is JUST TOO CLEAR...


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

Lets see if someone has the answer to  sri sankara_rao gaaru's
question...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: cs641114@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs641114)
Subject: Re: Back from India
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:52:18 GMT

In article <1078@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:

>I have neither time nor patience to reply to your response.

ok. but you do have time to post in response to my post, eh ? fine :-)

>I, in my opinion, echoed the observations of an outsider.
>My own experience, combined with those of my acquaintees,
>is enough for me to form an opinion. You may have encountered
>different experiences and you have right to have your own opinions.
>Coming to the topic of "generalizations", as poverb goes, you
>don't have to check whether each garin in a bowl is cooked or not,
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the proverb is right. but it does not fit here.
india is not a bowl of garin. its a salad bowl. you just happened to choose 
_a_ ingredient (which did not suit your taste) !


>but testing few is sufficient enough to say as to cooking is done or not.

in fact, your post reminds me of the six blind men trying to decipher the
shape of an elephant !

>Thats all.
>
>----Sreehari

sundar kesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: World Culture and Western Culture
From: ghayalm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:36:00 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Keywords: Sati

In article <1992Sep29.161359.29035@news.acns.nwu.edu> bsind@speedy.acns.nwu.edu (Brijnandan S. Dehiya) writes:
>In article <JMC.92Sep28214354@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU  
>(John McCarthy) writes:
>> part ot its motivation was a sense of superiority.  However,
>> the innovations were introduced and were useful, e.g. secular
>> universities, railroads and a British style judicial system -
>> even cricket.
>> 
>and giant social reformers like Raja Ram Mohan Roy were instrumental in  
>convincing the then Viceroy ( I think Cornwallis) to pass the law banning  
>sati.The British were afraid of opposition on a mass scale on anything  
>that would seem to interfere with the religious feelings of the Hindus.
>As for the transport system's development , it was for the ease of  
>transporting the British army and goods for the British industries that
>this was done.Name ONE university which the British started in India.All  
>of the Indian universities were started by Indians .
>The British did not teach the Indians about the modern way of living.
>The Indians LEARNED it by observing.
>
>Brij Dehiya

 I would also like to add that Indians paid taxes which was used
to build the railroad system, Indians had to buy tickets to use
the trains and the Britishers used to get preference over Indians
in seating arrangements.  My point is that the British did no favors
on India by introducing the Rail system.  The British judical system
says that a person is guilty till proven innocent (I may be wrong),
the Indian system says the opposite.  Any way we had judical systems
before the British came to India.  Cricket, the British seem to be
the only ones who never won the Cricket world cup.

Manoj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian