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From: ohoward@centurion.ksu.ksu.edu (Todd Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Thunderheart
Date: 8 Apr 1992 12:49:14 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:

>Has anyone seen this yet?  Is it any good?

Spoilers (maybe, maybe not, beats me)

I personally went to an afternoon showing to see it and thought it
to be about worth what I paid:  $3.50.  Now, on to comments...

I have two "major" gripes about this show...  

  1)  The "spirit dancers" angle on the main character.  The film was very
      wishy-washy about what exactly was going on...yes, you could easily
      make some guesses, but I'd have either liked to have seen more of the
      "spirit angle" or less of it.  In other words, made it more of a
      fantasy/Sci-Fi detective story, or more of a modern day detective 
      story.  Either way, it was definitly a detective story.

  2)  The premise for the "murder."  They throw simple clues at you, and out
      of no where comes this "mining" stuff.  It seems that they could have
      either changed the reasoning, or played it up some more...to me it didn't
      seem like that big of a deal.

Notes:  Both of the above tend to be due to the fact that this is "based 
on incidents that occoured on [insert reservation name here] in the 70's"
My personal opinion was that they should have emphasized or scrapped that
aspect.  Change the "mining" to something worse and play it up more, or
turn it into a F/SF detective story.  

Todd
-- 
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Todd O. Howard (ohoward@matt.ksu.ksu.edu)
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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: One More T2 Blooperette
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:33:23 GMT

Anyone else notice the steam coming out of Ah-nold's mouth when he said
"Goodbye" to Sarah and John before being lowered into the vat of molten
steel? Why, one might almost think it was COLD in that steel mill,
despite the fact that there were dozens of vats of molten metal
everywhere.

"The Making of T2" provides the explanation: apparently the abandoned
steel mill they used for the shooting had an average temperature of
about 42 degrees F, making it difficult for the actors to work up a
sweat. They had to add moisture droplets to the actors during the
shooting. So it really WAS cold when Ah-nold bade his fond farewell.

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From: jon@cyclone.MITRE.org (J. E. Shum)
Subject: Re: Marilyn fans, read this...
Originator: jon@cyclone
Organization: The MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 20:17:12 GMT


In article <92093.203709DJW100@psuvm.psu.edu>, DJW100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>  Does anyone know exactly where Marilyn Monroe's grave is located in
> Westwood, CA? I'm planning a trip to L.A. in a couple of months, and my trip
> would not be complete without a visit to her final resting place. Also, I'd
> imagine there are probably stores in Hollywood which specialize in Marilyn
> memorabilia. Anyone know of any? Thanks...
> 
>                                  One tremendous fan,
>                                                        -- Jeff
> 
> Also, if there are mailing lists or fan clubs or anything like that (either
> run by Marilyn's estate or otherwise) I'd appreciate that too.

Contact Gravline Tours of Los Angeles.  Sorry I don't have the number.


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From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: TOTO LE HEROS trivia question
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:17:53 GMT
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At one point the hero reads a few lines from a book, about
someone describing a dream in which he is in love with an
unknown woman. What is the book?
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From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Dead Again: Plot conflicts
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:36:12 GMT

Spoilers...














In article <204949@unix.cis.pitt.edu>, jmgst26@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Joseph M  
Goodwin) writes:
> Well, spoilers will follow
>
> Ok, let me know if I've got this straight.  The theme of the movie is
> getting revenge in another life.  All along, the hypnotist has his
> opportunity to kill Amanda, once he saw the picture in the paper.
> Why didn't he?

I think he was trying to get the two leads to kill each other, if he  
could. At the end, he was still trying to set that up.

My impression of this movie was that it was a comical farce, and so the  
plot problems are less significant than the fun. However, it's possible  
that I was just laughing at a really awful movie (which it was, anyway),  
instead of with it. By the time Derek Jacobi breaks into his stuttering  
(ala his exact same performance in I Claudius) I was on the floor. Surely  
the conclusion with the fat pizza buddy and the silly scissors all over  
the place was not meant to be taken seriously?

In fact, I thought it would have been great if, when Brannagh's character  
starts pulling scissors out of his apartment, he would like, have scissors  
upon scissors upon scissors... what a great chance for a gag. Of course,  
that's sort of what we got at the end.

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From: joan@med.unc.edu (Joan Shields)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Brainstorm - what was the original ending
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:31:27 GMT
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine
Originator: joan@ocean

I watched the movie BRAINSTORM last weekend.  Yes, the ending was a bit
odd.  What I'm wondering is if anyone knows how the movie was originally
supposed to end before the unexpected death of Natalie Wood.  Was there
supposed to be something after the scene at the Wright Brother's Memorial?

Or did the movie end the way it was originally intended to and I'm just
the victim of an weird sense of humor?

Joan

Nondeterminism means never having to say you are wrong
From: stoen@cs.widener.edu (Terrence Stoen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: HELP ME FIND A VARIETY MAG. SUBSCRIPTION
Date: 8 Apr 1992 13:33:20 -0400
Organization: Widener University Department of Computer Science, Chester PA
Distribution: usa
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Its pretty much explained in the Title:  I can't find myself a
subscription to Variety.  Waldenbooks doesn't sell it nor does B.
Dalton and none of them know how to get it. 

-- 
You will die, slowly- DURASSSSSSS-
-Gowron from Reunion.
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From: dwarner@scott.skidmore.edu (davi warner)
Subject: Re: Musicals (Re: NEWSIES)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 03:21:10 GMT


I believe that there was a movie made from the play.
From: cn@otter.hpl.hp.com (Colin Needham)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 08:23:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Theme movies
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
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In article <29E22B82.27108@noiro.acs.uci.edu>, eabu202@orion.oac.uci.edu writes:

>Can somebody e-mail me or post some suggestions for movies that fit under 
>either of these two themes?
>
>1) psychiatrist/psychologist/doctor gets involved with patient and caught  
>   up in a murder (a la FINAL ANALYSIS but better, hopefully)
>
>2) amnesiac victim (NOT REGARDING HENRY!!) mixed with detective genre (a la
>   SHATTERED)

First of all how about one that fits under both: Alfred Hitchcock's exceptional
1945 thriller "Spellbound". Gregory Peck plays an amnesiac who believes he has
murdered the newly appointed head of a mental institute. Posing as the murdered
man he arrives at the institute and, enlisting the help of psychiatrist Ingrid
Bergman, goes on the trail of the killer. This, IMHO, along with "Vertigo",
"North by Northwest" and "Notorious" is one of Hitchcock's best works and the 
archetypal film for both genres you mentioned. In fact, I think of "Shattered" 
as a kind of a cross between "Spellbound" and "Vertigo".

The best example of (1) I can think of is the under-rated 1980 thriller,
"Still of the Night" with Roy Scheider and Meryl Streep. It's very much a
homage to Hitchcock, borrowing mainly from "Spellbound" and certain scenes 
from "North by Northwest". 

The first thing that comes to mind for (2) is Edward Dmytryk's 1965 thriller,
"Mirage". Gregory Peck stars again as an amnesia victim, this time enlisting
the help of private eye Walter Matthau to help him out. A good thriller that
will keep you guessing to the end.  It was rather poorly remade in 1968 as
"Jigsaw".

Another film along this theme is "The Crooked Way" (1949), directed by 
Robert Florey. Apparently it's about a gangster suffering from amnesia being
framed by a former rival. I haven't seen it so I can't comment further.

Hope this helps,

Col

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From: jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Who starred in 'Rabid'?
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:19:44 GMT
Organization: University of Joensuu

rlm7638@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jack McKinney) writes:
>     A friend of mine is trying to remember the name of the star of a
>movie she saw (a very bad one she also comments) called 'Rabid'. She

hey it can't be that bad, Cronenberg directed it.....I think.
Shoot me if I'm wrong.

Juice
jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi
From: richd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Rich Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: buckaroo banzai--good?? bad??
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:14:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpfcso.17490116
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In rec.arts.movies, joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM (John O'Neil - SunExpress IR) writes:

> 
> is this movie any good?? is it worth renting???
>>-> Buckaroo Banzaii is a modern day cult classic.  It is not your
     main stream type of movie, but it does have a decent plot and
     a lot of white noise to keep you guessing.  The movie is definately
     worth renting if you don't mind spending 90 minutes outside the
     square box.

-RC
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From: rdippold@maui.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Sharon Stone on SNL
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 06:31:47 GMT

rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
>> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>>>where it made her pause to compose herself momentarily.
>>>Any ideas?
>>
>>Yeah, just six or so protestors trying to make their point - That
>>groups which use ACT-UP type tactics are real assholes.  It worked, too.

>Then what tactics would you suggest they use to make
>their larger point -- about Hollywood's mistreatment
>of gay people and women?  Asking nicely doesn't seem
>to have had any effect...

Maybe they should just cut some throats.  It would certainly make the
point, and it wouldn't make as much noise.
-- 
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Servant", it won't work and they can't fire it.
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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Another Blooper
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:56:34 GMT

In the James Bond movie "Diamonds Are Forever," there's a scene in which
Bond and Tiffiny are driving a red Mustang Mach I through a rather
narrow alley. The ever resourceful Bond tips the car up onto two wheels
to squeeze through the narrow part. The amazing thing is, the pair of
wheels he's driving on at the start of the narrow passage are not the
same pair he's driving on at the end of it. ;-)
From: terryl@sail.LABS.TEK.COM
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: New Predator II Question
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:45:19 GMT
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Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Apr15.153752.21713@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
>jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:

>>Okay, now that the gun from the 18th century question has been solved, 
>>can anyone explain to me who was the father of the female cop's baby? 
>>Was she married? Was she just going out with one of the other cops?
>>Which one? Did I miss something really obvious in this? (The last one
>>I can answer - "probably")

>Um, I don't think it matters.  I think the point here was to show that
>although the Predator is an evil villain, 'cause he kills people, he's
>at least an *honorable* villain, because he doesn't hunt pregnant 
>women.


     Ditto what Steve says, with a little more explanation. The "Predator"
realizes that he *must* perpetuate the species that *he* loves to hunt; thus,
no killing of the species that are "with child", so to speak....

__________________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: LA Deathstyles tour?
From: rivero@mdcbbs.com
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:59:45 GMT
Organization: M&E (Division of EDS), Cypress CA
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In article <43260104@hpindda.cup.hp.com>, quint@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Chris Quint) writes:
> A while ago I heard about a "Deathstyles of the Rich and Famous" tour 
> in LA that takes you around a lot of stars' graves and deathsites.  Since
> I'm basically a very sick person this sounded like a lot of fun.  Has
> anybody been on this tour?  Is it worthwile?  Do you have an address or
> phone number?  
> 

  It's called "Graveline Tours" (as opposed to the more well known
Greyline Tours) at 213-469-3127.



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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: New Predator II Question
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:41:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr15.165709.9609@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> dyrda@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (The Conservative) writes:

>I think they
>were here for the sport of it. Also the predators maybe getting pissed
>at earth seeing as though two have already bit the dust, maybe another
>sequal will show this by Predators going nuts and attacking everywhere
>and everyone. :-)

If they're really only here for the sport of it, then there is no reason
why they would get pissed at earth.

Would you expect every human in the world to suddenly start killing
all the deer just because some people have been killed while hunting?


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From: eabu202@orion.oac.uci.edu (Virany Margaret Kreng)
Subject: Dean R. Koontz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:05:23 GMT

With all this talk about Stephen King and his books that are being made
into movies, I was wondering if anybody knows of plans to make any of
Dean Koontz's bestsellers (particularly THE BAD PLACE, COLD FIRE, PHANTOMS,
and THE VOICE OF THE NIGHT) into movies. 

Thanx for your help!!

Virany Kreng
eabu202@orion.oac.uci.edu

"Don't think, cowboy.  You ain't a thinker."

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From: nudnik@camelot.bradley.edu (Steven Parks)
Subject: Stephen King's _Sleepwalkers_ (minor spoilers)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:48:58 GMT

Even though I didn't pay six buck (or more) to see it--
(all right, I paid five and a quarter [twice--girlfriend =])
--I still feel let down.

The special effects were average--if you saw _T2_ or Michael Jackson's
"Black or White" you've seen the morphing/transforming technique--and the
plot left much to be desired.

While some of the acting was cheesy (to say the least), King's cameo was 
entertaining, as was Ron Perlman's ("Beauty and the Beast" television
show) part. 

                        ** Spoiler warning **

Lots of gore.  Lots of bleeding.  Lots of broken bones and limbs.
As for "methods of killing," the corn-cob-through-the-back bit was the 
most enjoyable.  =)

However, the plastic "body-suits" that the "sleepwalkers" wore were, 
in my opinion, worse outfits that Michael Keaton's Batman uniform.
These were probably rejected moldings from the box-office splat
"Tales from the Darkside" (which, coincidentally, featured a Stephen King
story...).  Godzilla was more realistic.

                      ** Commentary warning **

Is it just me, or have many of Stephen King's films (excluding the
Academy Award winning _Misery_) been let-downs, not as thrilling and
enticing as his novels and short stories?

Everyone can use my opinions--I don't want them anymore.

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Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 18:46:37 EDT
From: <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: James Bond

I am a big fan of the James Bond movies. I know that the reason why Cubby
Broccolli did not have another movie made for release last year was because
the studio (MGM/UA) is currently in the midst of money problems. Does anyone
know if the next movie's script has been written, if any filming has been
scheduled, and when they plan on having another 007 flick out in the theatres?
If you could E-mail me the answer on any of these questions, I'd appreciate
it. Thanks.
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From: tmm@sdd.hp.com (Tim McDonough)
Subject: Re: "alien^3" and "Hot Shots" [was: __A L I E N 3__ news]
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:08:51 GMT

In article <coleman.703279571@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu!> coleman@susie.cs.scarolina.edu (Kevin Coleman) writes:
>
>ncramer@bbn.com (Nichael Cramer) writes:
>
>>In article <28805@brahms.udel.edu> roby@brahms.udel.edu (Scott W Roby) writes:
>>>>it is ALIEN 3  NOT aliens3.  It isn't alien^3 either.  It is just ALIEN 3...
>>>Well, I wish someone would tell the editors of Fangoria magazine. The
>>>current May issue lists it consistently as Alien^3 on page 10 and cover.
>
>>This weekend we rented "Hot Shots" (i.e. "Airplane" meets "Top Gun").  It
>>started with the leader/preview to the movie.  There it was called alien^3.
>
>>BTW, what's the joke with the chihuahua?  (Throughout the movie people keep
>>sitting on a chihuahua; is there some movie reference that I'm missing
>>here?)
>
>It's just the utter idiocy of it that's funny, I suppose. I thought that it
>was hilarious. I guess that it's just that "kind" of humor...

Actually I think the chihuahua is a reference to the Star Trek episode: The
Trouble With Tribbles.  By the end of this episode everyone is having to watch
where they sit for fear of sitting on a tribble!

                       -Tim
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From: teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima)
Subject: Sharon Stone on SNL
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:47:00 GMT


I realize SNL is on TV, but since we've had threads on Basic Instincts
here and all, I'm posting in this newsgroup.

When Sharon Stone did her opening monologue on SNL the other weekend,
there were a few very vocal people in the audience that kept yelling
things to her. Did anyone catch what they were saying? I had a feeling
they were hecklers saying something negative about her role in Basic
Instincts, because they were very rude, interrupting her monologue to
where it made her pause to compose herself momentarily.
Any ideas?
Thanks in advance! :)



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From: reiher@onyx.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Will the Real Alan Hale stand up (was: The Sea Hawk questions)
Reply-To: reiher@onyx.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Peter Reiher)
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:38:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.192427.938@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:

>Alan Hale appeared in a host of
>movies, though he is best remembered for being Errol Flynn's sidekick in
>almost every one of his adventure films.  Besides THE ADVENTURES OF ROBIN
>HOOD and those you list, I remember him in THE ADVENTURES OF DON JUAN (also
>with Flynn) and a very small part in IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT with Clark Gable
>and Claudette Colbert.
>
>A really enjoyable character actor -- he played well against Flynn.

Interestingly, Hale also was in the Douglas Fairbanks silent "Robin Hood",
looking rather young and not quite fat, yet.  He played Fairbanks' loyal
squire, and had a fair amount to do.  Wallace Beery was the other well
known character actor in this film, playing, of all parts, Richard the
Lionheart.  He wasn't bad, actually.  Who would have thought that there was 
a role suitable for both Sean Connery and Wallace Beery?

			Peter Reiher
			reiher@onyx.jpl.nasa.gov
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From: luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: BLOOPER in WAYNE'S WORLD
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:45:23 GMT
Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory, Acoustics Division


I've noticed talk about Wayne's World and talk about movie bloopers,
and now I'd like to combine the two here...

In the scene where Wayne et. al. are airing their first _network_
telecast, and Wayne is talking to the sponsor, he has 3 cards in his hands, 
on the backs of which he has written insulting things about that sponsor.
He holds up the cards so that the camera can see the comments, but
the sponsor cannot. He goes through them all one at a time, and then
they cut away for a second (the real movie, not Wayne's crew) for a 
reaction shot.

When they cut back (no time has gone by at the network studio), Wayne 
is setting the cards down in his lap, and the bottom card is still 
visible for a split second - and the comment written on it is _not_ 
the one he showed last, which it should have been if he was just then 
putting them down. I guess the cards got mixed up between takes. 

Granted, this is just a piddly little continuity error, but I was
pretty proud of myself for noticing it.

KL
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