HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tachaimov@hou.amoco.com (Tom Chaimov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Quicken 4.0? 5.0? 6.0?
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:35:28 GMT
Reply-To: tachaimov@hou.amoco.com (Tom Chaimov)
Organization: Amoco Production Company

I purchased Quicken 3.0 for the Mac not long ago.  I have
a friend who runs Quicken 4.0 on his PC.  His version is
a lot better than mine.  Apparently there's
a v. 6.0 in the works for the PC.

My question:  Anybody know anything about a Quicken
upgrade for the Mac?  When's it coming?  Why is the Mac
version so far behind the PC version?  I called Intuit and
they were most heinously uninformative.

Tom
From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Catenate folder of text files ?
Date: 15 Sep 92 05:36:10 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

Hi netmongers,

Has anyone found something that will join all the text files in a
folder into a single file ? The next best thing would be to
shift-select a list of files to be joined. I can paste them one at a
time with BBedit or Vantage or Append1 but his will not do.

Thanks much,

Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: pjl@sparc10.cs.uiuc.edu (Paul Lucas)
Subject: Re: Where can I find AfterDark 2.0 ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:14:48 GMT

In <3981@sicsun.epfl.ch> dieperin@masg35.epfl.ch (Alwin Dieperink) writes:

>Hi 

>I'm looking for After Dark 2.0. Is it public domain ? Where
>can I find it ?

*****>	It's not PD; you can find it at a computer store.
-- 
	- Paul J. Lucas				University of Illinois	
	  AT&T Bell Laboratories		at Urbana-Champaign
	  Naperville, IL			pjl@cs.uiuc.edu
From: thomp@netcom.com (Thom Philabaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: PD/shareware after dark modules wanted
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:00:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I recently purchased the book ART of DARKNESS and they mention some
shareware/PD graphics modules.  I'm looking for the modules:

Off the Air
Spill
Swarm!

Any other interesting ones would be appreciated.  Is there a site that is
collecting these?  Please e-mail your response.  I'll post a summary...

thomp@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: vthrc@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Danny Thomas)
Subject: (Q) new Canvas/Photoshop/Xpress, when?
Keywords: canvas photoshop xpress rumour
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:56:50 GMT


Hello people,
             we are considering the purchase of these packages in the 
near future, but might delay if new versions are soon to be released. So 
I'm posing the general question of whether anyone knows the development 
schedule of these packages, and what changes/features are likely to be 
part of the next release.
    We could only justify delaying a purchase on the basis of reliable 
advance knowledge, but heck we're also interested in some more 
speculative (vapourware-style) comments to brighten up our day.

Because of problems with our news-server, I'd appreciate receiving an 
email copy of any reply postings to net-news. 

cheers,
X500: @c=AU [I'm about to update VTHRC entries, soon...]
       @o=University of Queensland
        @ou=Physiology and Pharmacology Department
         @ou=Vision Touch and Hearing
          @cn=Danny Thomas
           @rfc822Mailbox=vthrc@cc.uq.oz.au

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: Word 4 select all?
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:21:27 GMT


In article <1992Sep4.142015.12078@linus.mitre.org>, cbp@ladyday.mitre.org (Cynthia B. Phillips) writes:
|> 
|> Most word processors have a select all command, which is very useful
|> for changing elements of a document once it is already written.
|> 
|> Is there any way to do this in Word 4?  As a college student, I find
|> this is one of the things I use most, to, umm...., adjust the length
|> of papers through creative font resizing and respacing.  But in order
|> to change the font on a 10 or 12 page paper, the only way seems to be
|> to scroll through the whole thing, mouse-highlighting it, and then
|> change the font.
|> 
|> I hope I'm missing a simple and obvious way to do this, but if not, is
|> there a less-simple, less-obvious way to do this?  Does Word 5 have
|> a select all command?  (since I missed the free upgrade period by less
|> than a month, I'm not too eager to pay to upgrade, but I might
|> consider it if it were worth it....)
|> 
|> Thanks for any help you can give me!
|> 
|> 
|> Cynthia Phillips
|> 
|> cbp@linus.mitre.org until 9/11, or phillips@husc.harvard.edu
|> 
Choose command from the <damn_can't_remember_which> menu, find "select
whole document" in the list of commands, and "add" it to your menus.
You can also add a keyboard command from here, if you'd like.

Cheers!
-- 

David G. Simmons
davids@lanl.gov

If I said it, LANL didn't... 

-- 

David G. Simmons
davids@lanl.gov

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Subject: Re: AutoDoubler Stuff
Keywords: AutoDoubler , Gatekeeper
Reply-To: aland@cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: As little as possible
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:08:40 GMT

coronell@athena.mit.edu (Dan Coronell) writes:

>     I called Salient concerning the pending release of AutoDoubler 
>2.0.  It is supposed to ship in about a month, will include many 
>new features, and will also cost about $20 more. However, for anyone 
>who is considering buying AD in the near future, you might want to 
>act now. If you buy the current version at the current price and 
>send in your registration like a good boy or girl, the upgrade to 
>the costlier 2.0 version is free! Should I be telling you this? 

Yes, thanks. ;)  I did this last month...

>     Now, some minor concerns about AD in general that I hope to 
>clear up. What's the deal with the Gatekeeper conflict? Isn't it 
>possible to just add AD to the list of apps which Gatekeeper will 
>allow to do funny things? (Set in the cdev provided w/GK) If I get 
>AD will I have to abandon GK? Does this conflict apply to GK Aid 
>as well? Is Disinfectant 2.9 (Thanks, John!) and GK Aid sufficient 
>protection if not?

You can't add AutoDoubler to the list of 'apps' which GK allows,
because AD isn't an application.  It's an init, which (at least at
this time) means that it runs 'inside' the memory of another
application, which basically means that GK thinks the things AD does
are done by whatever application is in the foreground.

This conflict (which I believe is _not_ a 'major' big deal, & will at
worst cause 'temp files' to be left on your drive) will not arise with
GK Aid.

	-=Alan
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Prograph 2.5 number sought
Date: 14 Sep 1992 21:04:02 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Sep11.110956.1731@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> Michael.Breen@UC.EDU
writes:
>Does anyone out there in NetLand  have the phone number for TGS Systems in
>Canada? They are the folks that produce Prograph programming language for the
Mac.
>
>If anyone can point me to an internet address or a phone number for these
folks
>it would greatly be appreciated.

(800) 565-1978  (U.S. only)
(800) 927-4847  (U.S. and Canada)
(415) 773-8234  (the rest of the world)

Internet: tgs2@applelink.apple.com

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: j-norstad@nwu.edu (John Norstad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: disinfectant 3.0????
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:22:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: norstad.j-norstad-040992163248
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Northwestern University

In article <9224811.19747@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU
(Red Mountain) wrote:
> So they can release system 7.1.1 and you can't release 2.9.1 ? Not very
> nice of them really...

I use the second digit for new virus releases, and the third digit for bug
fix releases (I've had two in the past, most recently 2.7.1).

John Norstad
Academic Computing and Network Services
Northwestern University
j-norstad@nwu.edu
From: jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Questions on SoftAT (or SoftPC)
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:56:48 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

>>> I am interested in SoftAT(or SoftPC).
>>> Does anyone use and recommend it?
>>> 
>>
>>I've got , I've used it, I *DO NOT* recommend it.
>>Its no longer even on my machine; wanna buy it from me;-)

My original comment applied to version 1.4, I have heard a rumor that the
latest version (2.5?) might be better, but I don't know anyone who has it.

> ditto. I'll sell you my copy as well.
> Even on my Quadra 700, its STILL to slow.
> 
> 	-jrg

Which version does this latter comment refer to?

John Moulder (jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu)
Radiation Biology Group
Medical College of Wisconsin
 
> 
> -- 
> internet    jrg@galloway.sj.ca.us  John R. Galloway, Jr  795 Beaver Creek Way
> applelink   D3413                  CEO...receptionist    San Jose, CA   95133
>                                    Galloway Research     (408) 259-2490
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: Superclock and 32-bit mode
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:04:20 GMT

In <1992Sep12.012340.24247@news.media.mit.edu> minsky@media.mit.edu (Marvin Minsky) writes:

>Thanks to all who suggested using Superclock 3.9.1.  But that's what I
>was using.  The crashing bug went away after I reloaded the System.
>Sorry to have badmouthed an innocent utility.  (Does it really
>conflict with Word-wrapping?  I haven't noticed this.)

There is no problem running Word with SuperClock 3.9.1. We have many users
doing this and word wrapping has always worked just fine.
From: gotimer@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Gene Gotimer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Need Advice on OCR software
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:31:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
X-Organization: (formerly David Taylor Research Center)

IGMJG@ASUACAD.BITNET wrote:
>One word of caution about Omnipage Pro though...I recently purchased a HP
>Scanjet //c that was bundled with a "try me" version of Omnipage Professional.
>It looked real pretty, but bombed every time I tried to scan a document. When I
>called Caere's tech support line, I found that this "unimplemented trap" error
>was present both in the "try me" and actual sale version of the software. The
>only way around this, apparently, is to turn on virtual memory.

I use this software on a IIci with 8megs of RAM, and virtual memory OFF.
It may crash once in a while, but it is very useable, and very good.
The scanner is a Microtek 300GS.  I'm not sure what part of your set up
does not allow you to use OmniPage PRO without virtual memory. 


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: startup screen?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: world,local
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 06:41:15 GMT

CASTILLO@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu (Ulysses Castillo) writes:

>Are there any PD or shareware startup or desktop screens available?
>It must be able to run under 6.0.7 since that is all I've got.

   Startup screens are simply files saved from certain graphics app's. You're
talking about an init that will put a startup screen on your desktop?
Backdrop is one. DeskPict is another. The System displays a startup screen
if there is a file named "StartupScreen" in your System Folder and it is
-- 
Muff
From: 21602MR@MSU (Mark Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: PageMaker + DeskWriter = TextLinesWithNoSpaces??
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:30:08 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

I am producing a small newsletter with my Mac (IIci, 8 meg ram, system 7)
using PageMaker and printing it to a DeskWriter. Text flowed into
the article colums (2) somtimesrunstogetherlikethis! ??? On the screen
it looks ok, but when printed, it comes out with no spaces...?? Not all
lines, about one in 20 or so. --> turning off hyphenation, changing fonts
(type 1), selecting precision bitmaps: none of this helps. I think setting
the tracking to loose may help, but would rather not.
Is this a problem of PageMaker of the DeskWriter Driver (v 3.07??)
Any ideas, help greatly appreciated! Please reply to the net! Thanks
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Likewise net software from Apple
Date: 10 Sep 1992 17:32:51 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <1992Sep10.031404.7606@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Mark.R.Valence@dartmouth.edu (Mark R. Valence) writes:
>In article <7267@lib.tmc.edu>
>drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez) writes:
>> It does this by using AppleTalk broadcasts. This is good in an isolated
>> classroom, since it saves time. This is bad in a big AppleTalk network,
because
>> it eats so much bandwidth.
>
>Er, not really.  Actually, its use of broadcasts actually LIGHTENS the
>load on
>the network, with respect to the direct-addressed packet schemes.  It does,
>however cause each Mac on the "target" network to service an
>ever-so-minor interrupt not a real problem.

But what about the other 1000 Macs (outside of the classroom) on our Ethernet -
won't they see the broadcast, too? And the 3000 PCs, dozens of Unix boxes and
assorted mainframes might also notice the traffic.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: RE: ZModem Tool...
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:26:48 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

The author of the Kermit tool just announced that he is looking at writing a
Zmodem tool.  He was looking for good documentation on Zmodem.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: WHITESR@APPSTATE.EDU (Steve White)
Subject: Fractional width spacing in Excel?
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:15:00 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

Is there a way to get Excel to support fractional-width
spacing? Wasn't there an INIT some years ago called
something like "alwaysfrac" that did this sort of thing?
Is there such an INIT (or other fix) that will accomplish
the result of fractional-width spacing in Excel? Available
where? Thx, Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Kevin Carbajal <kbcarbajal@ames.arc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: Hard drive partitioning?
Organization: NASA  Ames - FAS
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:10:03 GMT


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From: baker4@husc10.harvard.edu (David Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: ResEdit 2.1.1 and Popup Menus
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:07:48 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Distribution: comp
Organization: Department of Psychology, Harvard University

Has anyone but me had a problem with creating popup menus in System 7 with
ResEdit 2.1.1?  For some reason, when I can get it to work, ResEdit displays
whatever MENU in its resource fork that has the same resource number that my
CNTL points to instead of mine.  And if ResEdit doesn't have a MENU with that
resource number, it crashes into MacsBug after jumping into outer space.  Is
it me, or is it ResEdit.  I've tried this on a number of copies.

Thanks for any help.

David

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From: jeremyr@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Jeremy Roussak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: One track minds and System 7 :^)
Keywords: multifinder timeouts system 7 applications
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:42:27 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <1992Sep3.193918.19978@samba.oit.unc.edu> Andrew.Brennan@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Andrew Brennan) writes:

>      One is the memory constraints of a SE with 2.5M - you can get
>   Sys 7 and maybe one or two small applications in there and that
>   is about all.  Not a problem - except for the user who switched
>   out to Finder w/o leaving their application.  The next user is
>   unable to enter anything.  (makes sense, no?)

If you install TuneUp 1.1.1, the Finder will ask you if you
want to quit apps with no open windows if there isn't enough
memory for the app you want to launch. This seems to solve your
problem, since presumably if there are open windows in the
background app your users, however naive, will be able to quit
it themselves.

Jeremy
From: hanser@rand.org (Larry Hanser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Superclock and Word 5.0a and 32 bit addressing
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:14:34 GMT
Organization: RAND
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
X-XXDate: Tue, 15 Sep 92 16:14:59 GMT

Mark Irwin     Dept of Statistics, Univ of Chicago
irwin@galton.uchicago.edu
irw1@midway.uchicago.edu
mark@stat.ubc.ca 

wrote:

>I believe your problem with 32 bit addressing comes from ATM.  Versions
>before 2.0.3 were not 32 bit clean.  Update that and I think you will
>be fine.

I did this today and Word 5.0a works fine with 32-bit addressing.

Thanks Mark.
From: starta@tosh.UUCP (John Starta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: bogus WriteNow upgrade gimmick
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 18:38:48 MST
Reply-To: tosh!starta@enuucp.eas.asu.edu (John Starta)

rgonzal@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez) writes:

> I just got a weird letter. On the outside it says "URGENT - Expiration
> Notification", and the return address is Heidi Roizen, 1390 Villa St,
> Mountain View, CA 94041.
> 
> Yet, inside, it is just yet another notice trying to talk me into
> upgrading from WriteNow 2.2 to 3.0. (Does bombarding people with
> upgrade notices actually eventually make them want to upgrade?)
> 
> So either there was an error in the printing of the envelopes, or
> T/Maker (makers of WriteNow) considers the deluge of WriteNow upgrade
> notices to be a "subscription". So if I don't get the upgrade, the
> "subscription" will run out! Of course, if I were to take the upgrade,
> I assume they'd stop the "subscription" anyway... :-)

I think that upon closer examination of the letter you'll find the 
expiration notice is really telling you that this is your last 
opportunity to get the WriteNow 3.0 upgrade for $49.95. (After September
30, 1992, the upgrade price becomes $69.95.)

john

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: Word Font Display (was MS Word)
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:49:07 GMT

banks@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

>IN an article 'butscher@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Adrian Butscher)'
>writes:

>>Is it me, or does MS Word 5.0 display fonts a little strangely? Let me be
>>specific.  When I open a new document, I use Palatino as default font (this
>>problem happens with a lot of other fonts as well).  Word seems to space
>>letters badly.  The e will be too close to the a, leaving a big gap on the other side
>>of the e, for instance.  When I view documents converted from MS Word 4, this
>>doesn't happen.  Could someone out there reply to me about this problem - it's

>It is annoying!  Go to the 'page setup' command in the 'edit' menu.  If the
>check-box marked 'fractional widths' is checked, uncheck it (and, for good
>measure, check the 'use as a default' box, to stop it happening again).
>Your document should now look as nature/God/you intended it.

I disagree. Use fractional widths. It also depends on what printer you're
going to. Fractional widths work fine for me with both IW II and DeskWriter.
BTW, Page Setup is in the File menu, not Edit. Always has been.

-- 
Muff
From: marobert@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (M Robertshaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Mac Sailmaking Programs
Date: 8 Sep 1992 16:52:28 +0800
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au


I would be interested to find out the availability of sailmaking
programs for the Macintosh.

If anyone can help I would be grateful.


Mark Robertshaw
email address:  Marobert@uniwa.uwa.edu.au

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: dowling@hubcap.clemson.edu (william a dowling)
Subject: Re: disinfectant 3.0????
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 00:34:45 GMT

rfisel@informix.com writes:

>John,
>One relatively simple thing that would make Disinfectant much more system-7  
>friendly would be to reduce its size a bit, so it could fit on a 1.4M floppy  
>with a minimal system file and finder. All that Monty Python stuff is really  
>cute, but I get a little worried when my emergency virus disk can't include it  
>and the system all at once.

Just for everybody's imformation, there is a file at sumex that is called
min-system installer (or something like that) in util dir (I think, I'm not
sure my memory is working tonight :))  You should be able to build a sys7 start-
up disk with a copy of disinfectant on it (I think, I havn't tried it yet).
Boy, I wish I was more certian.

>Rick Fisel 
>(rfisel@informix.com)
>opinionated employee of opinionless
>Informix Software
>I prefer replies by email.

Opps :) 
-- 
My submissions are not necessarily those of my employer, but the ought to be.
Drew Dowling                        CLEMSON UNIVERSITY 
dowling@hubcap.clemson.edu                  SC                                69
From: hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Disinfectant 2.9
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:46:28 GMT
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Originator: hshubs@eff.org

I tried e-mailing this, but n.g.:

In comp.sys.mac.apps you write:

>I have the above virus protection INIT in my system folder.  It seems to do a
>good job, so my question here is rather trivial.

>Disinfectant 2.9 permanently etches its startup icon (the shield with the 'V')
>into whatever startup screen you happen to have.  Is there any way of fixing
>this so that the startup icon appears only temporarily and then vanishes as do
>all other good startup icons??

>I don't want the icon messing up my beautiful desktop artwork :-)

I think you'll find that the only reason the other icons disappear is that
you're plotting your artwork on top of them.  Try changing the name of
the INIT or cdev that gives you a startup screen to run -after- Disinfectant's.
Hm.  Waitaminute.  Disinfectant's INIT is supposed to run -first-.  Are
you using an old version of the INIT?

-- 
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