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From: shack@cs.arizona.edu (David Shackelford)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: *** Many important (to me) questions about OS/2 ***
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:42:01 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <BsxwvA.Eyr@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> bcrwhims@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Carsten) writes:
 >Hi all,
 >
 >I have been using OS/2 on a 386sx16 w/ 6M for a while, and I have a couple
 >of observations, and some questions:
 >
 >- Also recently (coincidence ?), I have had to double-click _TWICE_ on some
 >  of the program folders on my desktop, since the first double-click only
 >  moves them into memory (shaded background, ie minimized). Why? Very annoying!

One possibility is you're not waiting long enough for the window to come
up.  With the "pulse" window open, try double-clicking and watch system
activity.  If the icon becomes shaded and the system activity drops to
idle, read on.  If the system activity is high and the window eventually
opens, this is your problem and extra memory will help.

Are you having this problem with Folders or Programs?  If they're programs,
look in the settings page for a check box "Open Minimized".  This should
be unchecked to open the program into a window.  If they're folders,
you should report it to IBM through channels, because folders should
never open minimized.

David Shackelford
shack@cs.arizona.edu		| SUPL74Y1 at TUCVM5
UofA CS Dept			| IBM Tucson
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: brian%jaguar.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill)
Subject: Re: I've seen NT......and I'll take OS/2 2.0 thanks!
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:28:47 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

In article <1992Aug17.183703.29559@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <SXMRP.20.0@orca.alaska.edu> SXMRP@orca.alaska.edu (Michael R. Platzke) writes:
>>However, I think it is likely that there will be a dramatic increase
>>in the number of apps the use the built in mail and other network
>>features of NT.
>
>Without a network?  It's easier to leave a port-it note on the monitor
>than to e-mail someone on the same machine.  In my case, I'm the only
>one who uses my computer - my brother has his, and Mom & Dad have
>theirs.  What use is e-mail for any of them?
While my wife and I do not send e-mail between our machines at home, we
do find file and printer sharing over our thin-lan ethernet quite useful.
We were doing this under OS/2, but we have now taken OS/2 off both machines
:-(... it was too slow running Windows programs.  She runs Windows 3.1
and I dual boot 3.1 and the NT SDK.  We're anxiously awaiting future
(even beta) releases of NT as we both own copies of the SDK and as things
get more stable, we'll bring both machines up and do freeware and get
the TCP/IP daemons working.  Alas we don't have networking under 3.1 at
the moment :-(. (It's available, but I don't expect to be running 3.1 much
longer.)

[For those keeping track, only 1 of my 4 copies of OS/2 are in use... 
anybody want to buy a copy or two?]

>>Now if we could only get hardware vendors to include networking
>>interfaces it would all be so much simpler...
>
>So I can message my father instead of yell down the stairs?
Better yet, NT comes with multimedia support, just fire up the client
to your message to the speech synthesis server on your father's machine
upstairs. :-)
You could do this under OS/2, but you'll have spent another $149 and
your father will have spent $149 and besides noone will ever write
the software as who'd have that many customers that would pay the $149
for multimedia support?

>
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
From: bcrwhims@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Carsten)
Subject: *** Many important (to me) questions about OS/2 ***
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:57:09 GMT

Hi all,

I have been using OS/2 on a 386sx16 w/ 6M for a while, and I have a couple
of observations, and some questions:

- I was able to borrow 2M from a friend to see if the speed improved. It was
  a noticeable, but small improvement, but nothing that I thought was worth
  it.

- I have heard recently that a fast hard-drive makes a difference. Is this
  true? In that case, I would love to replace my ridiculous 40M 27ms drive
  with a 200M, 12-15ms IDE drive. Any comments? Will this enable me to make
  better use of the extra 2M, if I upgrade to 8M?

- I have a Plus hardcard w/ 100M and a cached 9ms access-time. Can I boot
  and run OS/2 off this drive (d:)?

- I have been using PmComm for a bit, toying with the idea of registering 
  it, but it doesn't do scripts in the pre-registered version, and I don't 
  want to have to pay 89.95 to find out that their implementation stinks.
  Has anyone registered it, and how is it? Is there another shareware comm
  program out there that is a little cheaper, and as functional, and nice?

- I use PmComm, and DOS ProComm before it, to log in to the computer at
  school to get mail and news, but recently I have been losing the
  connection, and had to reboot my computer, since although I could hang
  up by disconnecting the line from the computer, I couldn't get the modem to
  hang up. I am using a Zoom Sendfax 2400 modem. Does anyone have any idea
  why this is happening?

- Also recently (coincidence ?), I have had to double-click _TWICE_ on some
  of the program folders on my desktop, since the first double-click only
  moves them into memory (shaded background, ie minimized). Why? Very annoying!

- Does anyone know of a way to have the desktop folders minimized (as opposed
  to not loaded) upon bootup? This would be very nice, having such a slow 
  computer. I _am_ going to get a 486-33+ motherboard sometime, but I have
  no cash yet, and it sound like RAM and a fast hard-drive are more effective
  in any case (as long as I don't run extremely processor intensive apps all
  the time).

- How fast does the memory have to be on a 486-50? 60ns? 50ns?
  On a 486-33? DX-2 25/50? DX-2 33/66?

- Does EISA make any difference to the general performance under OS/2?

If anyone knows the answers to any of these questions, I would really
appreciate an answer, preferably by mail, but posting is ok. Thanks very much.

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From: lodzins@pilot.njin.net (Dean Lodzinski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: WIN-OS2 Windows Sessions
Keywords: WIN-OS2,OS2,Windows,Session,Help
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:27:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I just recently installed the beta Orchid 800x600 16 color video
drivers.  So far, no problems with that.  I have noticed though, that
since I installed it the Windows programs I had set up to load as a
WINOS2 Windows session will only boot up in the full screen WINOS2
with program manager, not in their own window under the OS2 desktop.
Has anyone else experienced this?  If anyone has any info, please
Email me.  Thanks.
   Dean
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Head Parking?
Keywords: os2 hard drive
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:13:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.203315.22349@cbnews.cb.att.com> wrb@cbnews.cb.att.com (wallace.r.blackburn) writes:
>Now a question:  how can I park the heads on my drive before turning off my
>computer?  Back when I used DOS (it seems so long ago - 1 1/2 days), I used
>a utility I got with Spinrite named park.com.  I religiously parked the
>heads before shutting down the computer.  I've got an old 20 Mb Seagate
>that has been running flawlessly for 6+ years and I attribute it mostly to
>always parking the heads.
>Anyway, after going through the shutdown procedure I hear the heads drop
>when I turn off the computer.  I hate that sound!  After shutdown though,
>you can't do anything but reboot or turn off.  Can I add the park command
>to the end of the shutdown procedure somehow?

Not exactly.  IBM expects that OS/2 2.0 will run on systems that have
autoparking hard drives, since almost anything beyond 30 MB does.  In
my opinion it is a reasonable expectation.

However, I have a kludgey workaround for you.  Create a bootable DOS
floppy diskette (FORMAT A: /S from native DOS).  Copy the PARK program
to the diskette.  Put PARK in the AUTOEXEC.BAT file on the floppy disk
as the last line.

Then, after you Shutdown from OS/2 (and get the message saying
shutdown has completed), put this "park diskette" in your floppy drive
(Drive A) and press CTRL-ALT-DEL.  When it finishes, turn off your
computer and put your "park diskette" in a safe place for use the next
time you want to shut off your computer.

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Using CMD.EXE instead of PMSHELL.EXE
Keywords: RUNWORKPLACE, WPS
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:16:01 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug15.063917.5822@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> postale@cse.fau.edu (Elena Postal) writes:
>
>If RUNWORKPLACE is set to CMD.EXE instead of WPS.EXE, how is OS/2
>shutdown performed?

There is no WPS.EXE.  It runs PMSHELL.EXE a second time.

Anyway, without WPS, you have no shutdown option.  You have two
choices:  Download the shutdown.exe program from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu and
use it, or press CTRL-ALT-DEL before powering off.

The shutdown.exe program has a bug in it with WPS, so do NOT use it
with WPS.  Otherwise, the WPS state gets saved, and shutdown loads
automaticly upon system startup - causing another shutdown.

As for CTRL-ALT-DEL, this works fine, but you must be careful.  After
pressing it, wait for your screen to clear and the boot process to
start before powering off.  The reason for doing this is to flush disk
buffers, and you wouldn't want to power off before they finished
flushing.  The safe time to power off is the period between when your
BIOS information screen appears and when the disk starts going.



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From: pfr@drsrv1.hmi.de (Fritsch_Wolfgang)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: emtex
Keywords: emtex
Date: 12 Aug 92 07:48:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Hahn-Meitner-Institut Berlin GmbH

amichail@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Amir Michail) writes:

>I have been unable to get dvipm to work.  How do I generate
>the pk fonts it requires?

>Amir
 
 
There is no need to generate additional fonts. I have the set of
fonts for the HP laserjet in the default directory and I understand
that the lj.cnf configuration file tells the program where to search.

I am afraid you have to ask a more specific question in case you have
continued problems.

Wolfgang Fritsch
HMI Berlin
pfr@psun2.hmi.de

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ECL4JN2@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Jack Newsbaum)
Subject: DOS autoexec.bat capability?
Date: 20 Aug 92 10:27:50 PDT

When starting up a dos task within OS/2, is there any capability for the
automatic execution of the equivalent of an autoexec.bat file
corresponding to what happens in vanilla DOS?

I've tried to wade through the various help screens, and I've seen
the stuff regarding association of device drivers with the startup of
DOS tasks, but I've seen nothing regarding any autoexec.bat capability.

I realize that it is possible to convert every migrated DOS task that
requires establishment of an environment into a batch job whose first
command would be a call to another batch file, say startup.bat, which
establishes a path, other environment variables, etc., but I was hoping
that there would be an easier way to accomplish this.

Thanks in advance for your advice.

    ====Jack====
From: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM ("Kenneth A. Kahn")
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: How to install HPFS after installation
Date: 21 Aug 92 01:18:19 GMT

Organization: Staff of IBM Fellow - NetWork Computing
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
X-X-From: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM (Ken Kahn)

In <stanton.450.0@haas.berkeley.edu> Richard Stanton writes:
>I originally installed OS/2 on a totally FAT system. For a few reasons, not
>least of which is that I want to install GNU Emacs, I'm considering
>installing HPFS now. How should I go about doing this with minimum possible
>disruption? Is it possible to have my C: disk (where OS/2 boots from) remain
>FAT (with dual boot capability) while reformatting my D: disk using HPFS?
>Do I have to back everything up and restore it to accomplish the change in
>format? What should I beware of?
>
>Thanks for any suggestions
>
>Richard Stanton
>

All you need to do is to make sure the following files on on your BOOT Drive:

   \OS2\HPFS.IFS
   \OS2\DLL\UHPFS.DLL

If they're not already present, you'll need to install them.  Look for the
OS/2 System Setup folder in the OS/2 System Folder.  Then look for the
Selective Install program.  When you run this, the second panel will allow
you to install the HPFS.  You'll need your Install Disks for this.

If the files are already there, just add the following line to CONFIG.SYS

 IFS=C:\OS2\HPFS.IFS
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: 3 os/2 2.0 questions!
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:18:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: njitgw.1992Aug12.161807.29979
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug11.034228.7411@sdf.lonestar.org> mo@sdf.lonestar.org (Mohit Goyal) writes:
>3.  How do I use the mode command?  I want to have OS/2 use my 16550, but
>I don't know how to use the MODE command, or where to use it.

Check out the command reference program.  Look up "MODE" under
"Command Listings by Name".  Or from an OS/2 command prompt, type
"HELP MODE" to load the Command Reference for you.

>One more, how can I copy OS/2?  I want to be able to put my 21 disks in
>their box, and then put that box inside the OS/2 box and keep it on
>my shelf.  (I may be stupid for wanting to use 21 blank disks just for a
>spare copy, but I don't want to screw up my originals)  Can I just diskcopy
>each disk?  Or just copy them with Norton Commander?  Thanks.

Use diskcopy.  I copied mine from DOS 5.0 using DISKCOPY.EXE and
installed from the copies with no problem.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Geoworks under OS/2?
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:03:28 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Aug21.033514.14887@ra.oc.com> matt@ra.oc.com (Matthew Lyle) writes:
> Has anyone out there gotten Geoworks to run under
> OS/2??  I'm needing to get it working, so that I
> can access AOL.  If anybody has if they could drop
> me a note with the "tricks" I need to pull, I'd
> appreciate it.
> 
> I'll sumamrize to anyone else out there who 
> might want to know.

Some one - I forget who - has written a patch that allows Geoworks to run
under OS/2. It is on Hobbes (ftp-os2.nmsu.edu). I don't recall the filename
but it will be there in the /pub/os2/2.0/????? directory tree.
 
Steve
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From: pdg@crosfield.co.uk (paul goffin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Where can I buy OS/2 2.0??? (UK Pricing)
Date: 20 Aug 92 07:59:44 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <1992Aug13.015333.21866@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) writes:
>Blatant NET advertising follows!!!  Heh heh heh...

>:OS/2 2.0 PROMOTIONAL PRICING

>:July 29, 1992

USA Prices have been posted, I thought I'd give out
the IBM UK prices.

(Prices are actually from the OS/2 User Group - 0285 655888)
(Neither I nor my employer have any commercial connection 
with the OS/2 User Group.)

Prices are in UK Pounds and exclude VAT.

                                      List           (User Group) Offer
OS/2 2.0 standard edition             #140                #99
OS/2 2.0 DOS upgrade                  #76
OS/2 2.0 OS/2 upgrade                 #94

Yes, the OS/2 upgrade is more expensive than the DOS upgrade.
IBM are not running a Windows upgrade price in the UK.

And for the C set/2 Workbench

Competitive Upgrade (any C compiler)          #202
Non-upgrade Price                             #340 (approx)

IBM are having difficulty supplying documentation for the Workset/2
system.

Paul


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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Two New OS/2 Books from Abacus
Date: 22 Aug 92 17:29:55 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

Per an advertisement in Byte, Abacus Books is now offering two new
OS/2 2.0 books.

OS/2 Complete: From installation, to overview, to the basics of the
Presentation Manager, you'll learn how to take full advantage of this
new operating environment.  Item #B157.  ISBN 1-55755-157-X.  Sugg.
Price $24.95.

Stepping Up to OS/2 V2: The upgrader's guide to learning OS/2 in a
hurry.  ISBN 1-55755-160-X.  Item #B160.  Sugg. Price $16.95.

To order call 800-451-4319 or 616-698-0330.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cvadrtbc@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Srikanth Viswanathan)
Subject: Re: Using CMD.EXE instead of PMSHELL.EXE
Organization: California Polytechnic University, Pomona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Keywords: RUNWORKPLACE, WPS
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:08:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug15.063917.5822@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, postale@cse.fau.edu (Elena Postal) writes...
> 
>If RUNWORKPLACE is set to CMD.EXE instead of WPS.EXE, how is OS/2
>shutdown performed?
> 
>The normal method, of course, involves selecting the _shutdown_ option
>from the floating popup which is not available if WPS is not the work
>place executed.

I don't think Shutdown is necessary if you run CMD.EXE as your Workplace,
but there is a program on ftp-os2 called SHUTDOWN.ZOO.  It SEEMS to do
the job.

Srikanth
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cvadrtbc@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu (Srikanth Viswanathan)
Subject: Re: Using CMD.EXE instead of PMSHELL.EXE
Organization: California Polytechnic University, Pomona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:48:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug12.155015.14039@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, kurtk@ee.ualberta.ca (Kurt Klingbeil) writes...
>Could someone please explain what core functionality PMSHELL provides;
>i.e. apart from GUIness... ?
> 
>If one uses CMD.EXE as the primary shell, does one lose such features
>as being able to start the DOS box, and switch between concurrent tasks,
>or is it just that I haven't figured it out yet?

No, you don't lose ANY functionality except of course the WPS.  
Make sure you change only the RUNWORKPLACE line and not the PROTSHELL
line.  Without the PROTSHELL you won't be able to switch tasks using
Cntrl-Esc/Alt-Esc which are PM functions.

Srikanth
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Running OS/2 on a Zenon 486/33
From: yuan1@husc9.harvard.edu (Nina Yuan)
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:47:06 GMT

Anyone have an experience running OS/2 2.0 on a Zenon 486/33 EISA or Local Bus
system?  I am in the process of looking for the list of systems that have
been tested for OS/2 compatibility, but I'd like to hear first-hand reactions
from the net.  Any general experiences, pro or con, with Zenon Computer
Systems are also greatly appreciated.

Post or e-mail responses, and I will summarize.

Thanks in advance,
-nhy



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: DOUG@novell.com (Doug Smith)
Subject: Trident card problems
Summary: Trident card problems
Keywords: Trident VGA
Organization: Novell NPD
Distribution: all
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:20:43 GMT

I'm heving problems getting my Trident card to wprk with the seamless 
windows drivers.  After turning on svga in DOS full screen mode, I then 
install the drivers as instructed int the readme file.  When I reboot, I get 
an error before the WPS starts up that says the particular VIO function in 
not supported under the current video mode.

After reading the readme file again and again, the only conclusion I can 
come to is that my vga card isn't the right version.  When my machine boots, 
I get the message: "Trident TVGA BIOS D3.0".  Also, I looked at the chipset 
on the card and it says TVGA 9000.  From what I've read in the readme, this 
should work.

Any ideas?

Doug Smith
Novell
jdsmith@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc