HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: LOOK at what Art Wittman did...
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:26:48 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Jul22.220122.289041@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
>Adam Silver asks:
>
>>Would you two like to arm wrestle me too....
>
>  Actually I think I would like to.  I've beaten the 3 men I arm
>wrestled(2 of them with both arms).  I'd like to try arm wrestling
>with a professional.
>
>K

Well, I'm not a professional, but I'm getting pretty good.  I hate to tell
you this Kathi, but I've recently let some fair sized guys use TWO arms
against me.  The outcome....  they LOST, especially against my left arm.
My left is a little strong right now because my right arm was the injured
one.

							-Adam

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: cgreenho@geppetto.encore.com (Charles Greenhouse)
Subject: Bodybuilding Contest
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:17:21 GMT

                           Tony Roma's
		     ( * A PLACE FOR RIBS * )
		     QUEENS, NASSAU & BROOKLYN
		        is sponsoring the

		           1992 NGA
                   AMERICAN NATURAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
 	    Sanctioned be the National Gym Association, Inc

	          Qualifier for ( WNBF ) Pro Shows
			  MEN * WOMEN
                  Also featuring Teens & Masters
		     MEN  +40  *  WOMEN  +35
	          ELIGIBILITY: DRUG-FREE 5 YEARS

		      Sat., Oct. 10, 1992
             Pre-Judging: 1 p.m.  *  Night Shows: 7:30 p.m.

	       LOCATION:   Washington Irving H.S.
	                   40 Irving Place
	                   ( b/t E. 16 & 17 sts.)
	                   New York, NY 10003

               INFO:     National Gym Association
			   ( 718 )  339-2674

         Co-Sponsors
		   TOP THIS GYM,  WNBF,  NATURAL PHYSIQUE
		   LENNY'S,  EXERCISE, BODY WEAR
From: po.CWRU.Edu!vxv4@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Recommended low-fat main courses
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:36:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant


In a previous article, lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) says:

>> 4) Tofu burgers.  You can find tofu burger mix at the 
>> supermarket.  If you buy your tofu in bulk (e.g. at a co-op)
>> this can be rather inexpensive.  In my opinion, these don't
>> taste bad at all, especially with a dash of soy sauce.  Also,
>> I recently tried making a patty out of 50% tofu burger and 
>> 50% ground turkey.  Since the tofu tends to absorb the flavor
>> of whatever it's cooked with, this came out rather well.  
>> Tofu protein is almost complete, but if you want to improve the
>> quality even more, try eating the burgers with other grain
>> products, esp. corn or rice.
>
>I was going to get into tofu, until I started reading the nutritional
>information. Seems that about 50% of the calories are from fat. Is this
>true with all brands of tofu?
 I think so, Luther.  However, I recommend it nonetheless because
even if the percentage of calories from fat is rather high, it still
contains LESS fat per ounce than most meats.  It also has less calories
per ounce.

-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

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 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Shoulders
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:44:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.153943.5257@nrao.edu>, lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) writes:
> In article <max.712196985@isis> max@isis.eng.hou.compaq.com (Max Heffler) writes:
> >ah238@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Zupko) writes:
> >
> >>Anyone know any good shoulder exerices with dumbbells?
> >
> >1.  Upright Dumbell Rows
> 
> Correct if I'm wrong, but...
> 
> I learned that upright rows are a back exericise. When doing them with a
> barbell, hands about 6-7 inches apart, lift the bar close to your body to
> about your chin height. I feel this in my back. I've heard that varying the
> grip can also get your shoulders somewhat, but this is primarily a back
> exercise. Also, most "rows" exercises are for back (although that certainly
> doesn't prove anything).
> 
> Any of you experts care to step in?
> 
> Luther
> 

You can get shoulder work from them as well.  You can also get shoulder
work from shrugs.  Keep in mind that it's more difficult to isolate
a specific muscle than to allow synergistic muscle action to work
naturally.  Besides, that's what helps prevent many injuries during
"normal" body action (sports, etc.).  

Upright cable rows can do a lot to shoulders, particularly if you
keep your back motionless.  Shrugs, especially light ones that
concentrate on movement of the shoulders toward the front, will
work those muscles quite well.

If you really want to isolate the shoulders, however, the various
upright flyes (toward front, back, center, different hand grips)
do this quite well.

GMS
From: sproule@gethsemane.EBay.Sun.COM (Dan Sproule)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Fat metabolism
Date: 29 Jul 1992 15:59:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: sproule@gethsemane.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: gethsemane.ebay.sun.com



   All this talk about fat metabolism has gotten me thinking. When I finish my
workout, I don't feel complete unless I have a good fifteen or twenty minutes
in the hot tub. The amount of sweating and water loss which accompanies the 
stay in the hot tub I've always considered to be just water loss. After reading
the recent posts concerning metabolism, I'v come to the conclusion that sitting
in that tub is actually burning real calories and not just causing me to lose
water.
   The question I have is: if I am burning real calories, it can't be the same
as burning calories during an exercise period. What's the equation? And, so long
as I am careful to replenish the lost water, is the calorie burn a quantifiable
amout that can be figured into my overall calorie burn count?


Thanks in advance for the answers...


Dan S.

Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Subject: Re: suggested books/exercises for ab work?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:49:10 GMT


loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:

>Dan, if you want your abs to look like that all the time, then your going to
>have to get them cut by doing aerobic work and reducing your fat intake to very
>little.

Already do. :)

>Aside from that, do the regular situps, crunches, and leg lifts to
>build the abdominals and obliques.

I thought situps weren't good as a stomach-flattening exercise...
comments?

-- 
          aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dan Doooooooovall)
From: berra.cs.rpi.edu!cecchinr@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Arm Wrestling - Which Muscles ?
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:53:00 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
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In article <14617@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:

>Very funny, you net nerds!  :-)  I have to admit, I do have an ego.  It's 
not
>really big though.  Honest.  :-)

... at least, its not as big as you think *you* are!

Alright, I'll stop dammit.  Its just that its fun to bust on someone
again (since Poo and I don't do that anymore).

Ron

"net nerds"?  "net nerds" ??!!!!@#@!^@#@*
Thats it! Wait until your 14.875" arms meet up with my 15.625" pythons!
("pythons", of course, should be said with sarcasm)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness,rec.running
From: Robert.Holton@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Robert Holton)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Heart rates...
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:44:43 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <weRhzKK00WB2E98qkG@andrew.cmu.edu> ls3c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Laurence D. Silverman) writes:
>All,
>
>I know everyone's is different, but I'm curious to hear what everyone's
>at-rest heart-rate is (and age, also).
>
>-Lar

I'm 26 (27 in September) and my heart rate at rest is in the range 42-46.
That's sitting at the terminal (currently ticking over at 45), but it is
lower when I just wake up, usually between 34 & 36.

What about max heart rates? I've got up to 211 when rowing and managed
over 200 for a minute when doing a VO2 max test running on a treadmill.
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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: love handles/Ken Kline
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:30:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.180920.286371@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
>Lots of aerobic exercise and dieting will not get rid of
>love handles.  I know thin people who never weightlift who have
>love handles, or are in the process of getting them(all men).  The

Then you know people who have a genetic propensity to store fat,
albeit a small amount, in a particular location.  Love handles are
to men as saddlebag thighs are to women.  Working the underlying
muscle can tighten the area, but it doesn't make the fat go away.

Unfortunately, because spot reducing doesn't work, people with "spot"
fat are in a difficult situation.  Aerobic exercise and dieting 
will work to get rid of "spot" fat, but the reality is that this
usually means that you need to get your total body fat to a
pretty low threshold (note that this is where weightlifting can help--
if you increase your muscle mass, you increase your caloric requirements
and decrease your body fat percentage).

So if you *really* hate your love handles or saddlebags, you can minimize
them with aerobic exercise, diet, and weight lifting.  If you want to
get rid of them, you are pretty much resigned to liposuction.  It's the
only way (short of completely changing your lifestyle a la Arnold) to get 
rid of genetically inherited "spot" fat.

>original poster (Javier, I think) needs to tighten all that flab 
>(no offense) up.  Aerobics might make them smaller, but then he'll have 
>small flappy love handles, instead of full ones.

Love handles are subcutaneous fat, not flabby muscles.  The only way
to get rid of fat is to burn it off or get it sucked out.

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: RECOMMEND BOOK--LIFTING?
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:56:56 GMT

>From: kj12+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kimberlie Ann Johnson)
>
>Could any one recommend a good lifting book for the INTERMEDIATE, woman
>(mostly freeweights, 8 months) who wants push herself, maybe compete as
>an amature?

i like Bob Paris's "Beyond Built". it is good for just about anyone...
beginner, intermediate, anyone!  in addition to training, it has great
sections on eating, clothes, workout logs, contest preparation, etc.
the training sections include lots of exercises, their descriptions,
and what you should be *thinking* while working each particular
bodypart. Bob is one of my very favorite bodybuilders, but i'd still
recommend the book even if you hate him. EXCELLENT BOOK! :-)
(and i've read a BUNCH of them! ;-)

Janice

ps. anyone know when Bob's new book will be out?

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From: cgreenho@geppetto.encore.com (Charles Greenhouse)
Subject: BodyBuilding Contest
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:07:00 GMT

                           Tony Roma's
		     ( * A PLACE FOR RIBS * )
		     QUEENS, NASSAU & BROOKLYN
		        is sponsoring the

		           1992 NGA
                   AMERICAN NATURAL CHAMPIONSHIPS
 	    Sanctioned be the National Gym Association, Inc

	          Qualifier for ( WNBF ) Pro Shows
			  MEN * WOMEN
                  Also featuring Teens & Masters
		     MEN  +40  *  WOMEN  +35
	          ELIGIBILITY: DRUG-FREE 5 YEARS

		      Sat., Oct. 10, 1992
             Pre-Judging: 1 p.m.  *  Night Shows: 7:30 p.m.

	       LOCATION:   Washington Irving H.S.
	                   40 Irving Place
	                   ( b/t E. 16 & 17 sts.)
	                   New York, NY 10003

               INFO:     National Gym Association
			   ( 718 )  339-2674

         Co-Sponsors
		   TOP THIS GYM,  WNBF,  NATURAL PHYSIQUE
		   LENNY'S,  EXERCISE, BODY WEAR
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: fs@cs.tulane.edu (Frank Silbermann)
Subject: Re: rubber band machines
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:15:22 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-3262]: caesar

In article <1992Jul23.000209.5070@ichips.intel.com> jreece@sousa.intel.com writes:
>
>I suspect that "band" machines were developed not because the rubber band
>allows for a better feel or training effect, but for a practical business
>reason.  There's no weight stack to pay to have shipped.  John Reece		

Components of rubber band machines seem to be more flexible.
I.e. you can use the same bar for bench, overhead press, pulldowns, etc,
just by moving the bar, turning it over, repositioning the bands.

Has nobody on this net actually used this stuff,
or know anybody who does?

I'm not a hard-core body-builder who needs very strong forces
to work against -- I just want to keep enough muscle tone
to keep my metabolism high (i.e. my weight down) without starving myself.
------------------------------------------
Frank Silbermann	fs@cs.tulane.edu
Tulane University	New Orleans, Louisiana  USA
From: silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: The misc.fitness TOP TEN list/Armwrestling
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:41:00 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Jul28.214951.28742@inter-tel.com> wohlenbe@inter-tel.com writes:

>2. Arm Wrestling
>
>     Wow, did I learn something here.  I never knew that arm wrestling was so
>important to fitness!  I  promise  to  eat  a nasty concoction of vanilla ice
>cream,  chili  dogs,  tabasco  sauce,  and  jalapeno  peppers followed by 200
>hanging leg lifts every day until I learn my lesson.

Well, Greg, I'm glad you learned something.  :-)  I know you didn't.  People
on here like to pick on me sometimes.  I didn't expect to get all of those
posts.

I do have soemthing to add though.  Armwrestling can be a very good exercise
to strengthen the arms.  I used to do a lot of wrist curls.  I made it up to
wrist curling 105 for about 12 times.  After armwrestling for only 3 1/2
months and not doing many wrist curls, they went to 135 for 10 reps.

Believe it or not, armwrestling is a sport (like weightlifting is).  I like
to think of weightlifting, powerlifting, and bodybuilding as sports.

							-Adam

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: squats
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:20:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.153744.23953@julian.uwo.ca>, warren@julian.uwo.ca (A Warren Pratten) writes:
> In article <1992Jul22.182033.28605@news.columbia.edu>, arw4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Aaron R Wininger) writes:
> |> Also, I've been wondering what the 2 sets of numbers on the Nautilus machines 
> |> means? I assume the lower numbers are the true weight, but what are the higher 
> |> set of numbers for?
> |> 
> |> Aaron
> |> 
> 
> This is just a guess but the two weights are likely pounds (lbs) and 
> kilograms (kg).  Is the smaller number roughly half the larger number??

Variable resistance devices (Nautilus, Universal, etc.) often have
labeling showing the maximum and minimum resistance that is exerted
by the machine onto the user's body at the contact point.  In Nautilus,
it's the cam that does the varying.  In the Universal bench, for instance,
it's the position of the roller as it moves along the effector beam
(the beam that's connected to the weight stack at one end and welded
to the handlebar that has the grips on it at the other).

GMS
From: clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Squat Tips
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:56:36 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I've been doing 20 rep sets of breathing squats (at least three
deep breaths per rep), and when I go much over 200 pounds I have
trouble with lightheadedness and the bar trying it's best to fall
off of my shoulders.  Any tips?  Note that I do *not* hold my breath
while I go up; I exhale.  My back feels a little sore afterwards,
but this goes away after an hour or two.  Any reason to worry?
-- 
Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ  08807-2618

"In a study of schoolboys, an educator discovered a correlation between size
 of feet and quality of handwriting.  The boys with the larger feet were,
 on the average, older."        Wallis & Roberts, _The Nature of Statistics_
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Subject: Facial exercises
Reply-To: vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:21:47 GMT


	Along with his dynamic tension course, Charles Atlas provides a
list of exercises to tighten the facial muscles.  I'm not about to shell
out good money for Atlas' course, but I am interested in these exercises.
(I want a pumped up face, yah!)  Info, anyone?
 
-- 
Virgilio "Dean" Velasco Jr., grad student & roboticist-in-training, CWRU

"If God does not judge the United States, then He owes |    My boss is a 
 an apology to Sodom and Gomorrah."   - Billy Graham   |  Jewish carpenter.
From: tammy@ms-1.gvl.unisys.com (Tammy Draper)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: crick crick crick
Date: 20 Jul 92 17:39:24 GMT
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa

In article <1992Jul16.215355.7201@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
>crick says:
>
>>It is nice that they allowed you to sit in on psych 101, not that you
>>would have passed.  The child-ego state is one that you must spend
>>much of your time in, again judging by your posts.
>
>kathy retorts:
>No need to indulge again; I understood enough from your first attempt to 
>secure your manhood.
>

....Bunch o' drivel deleted..

     Aw, c'mon and admit it, you two are in love.



 Tammy  (Net onlooker)


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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: hoebel@cs.rochester.edu (Lou Hoebel)
Subject: Re: Help me gain ten pounds!!
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:15:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.201842.8464@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.083034.207@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu>, loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>> In article <2178558@overmind.citadel>, uunet.edu!csfb1!dwarren@overmind.mind.org writes:
>> > Hi.  I'm a reasonably new reader of this group, and I was hoping to get
>> > some advice.  I recently shifted from Nautilus to free weights and here
>> >   I apologize for not knowing all of the exact names of the exercises.
>> >   I add situps and crunches often.  Not much leg work due to time 
>> > constraints.
>[....]
>> in sight, I guarantee that what you put on will not be muscle.  Also, I'm not
>> sure what your metabolizm is like but you may want to cut back on the aerobic
>> work.  I could be wrong; just a suggestion.
>> 
>
>I personally would try starting with light squats to get used to
>them and then go to a few sets of low-rep heavy squats and maybe
>deadlifts.  I realize some don't feel comfortable with these, but
>Arthur Jones has a theory about "generalization" that basically
>says that working a single muscle group has a general toning/bulking
>effect on all other muscles in the body.  A possible explanation is
>the release of some kind of growth hormone in the muscle that enters
>the bloodstream.  He used the example of working legs and seeing an
>increase in arm/other muscle size.  Now, there can be other explanations
>for this, but the legs are large muscles and I'd expect a significant
>effect from working this group.  Personally, I cut back on legs and 
>focus on machines/light squats because my legs tend to be too large.
>Squats and deadlifts did add a lot of bulk all over when I did them.
>Paricularly low-rep, of course.  It's worth a try.  A side benefit
>it that deadlifts and squats are great power-builders, and when you
>recover from the workout, you feel like you could fly.

My sample size of one agrees with this theory. I cut down on the number of
exercises...one day is just squats and calf raises after a decent warm up.
I've been able to add weight one this program but the flying is a tad more
difficult...but my skating is coming along fine!

My overall muscle tone is not exactly ripped but I'm just so happy to be
able to gain weight..its a real stuggle for me...even at my advanced age.
-- 
->Louis Hoebel
  Computer Science Department 	hoebel@cs.rochester.edu
  University of Rochester       {ames|rutgers}!rochester!hoebel
  Rochester NY 14627            716 275 5414
From: banchy@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (Banchy thomas g (410) 461-2216)
Subject: Re: The misc.fitness TOP TEN list
Reply-To: banchy@aplcen (Banchy thomas g (410) 461-2216)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:13:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.075927.233@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.214951.28742@inter-tel.com>, wohlenbe@inter-tel.com (Greg Wohlenberg) writes:
>> 
[lengthy original post deleted]
>
> ----Why not cut down on all the other stuff??????????????????
>> 9. Injuries
[lengthy original post deleted]

A one-line followup to a 100-line post with NO TRIMMING DOWN?!?!?!  Come
on, bonehead, you can do better than that!