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From: sue@dracut.keps.com (Sue Klimowicz)
Subject: Re: Gannon's stupidity costs the Vikes.
Originator: sue@dracut
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:58:29 GMT

In article <Bz83tv.D3q@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder ) writes:
> 
> Trailing 17-20 in the closing stages of the 4th Qtr, the
> Vikes get a first down in field goal range.  In the first
> play Allen gains 3 yards.  In  the second play, instead of
> continuing the running play Gannon goes to pass and gets
> sacked.....loss of yardage.  But the *idiot* does not
> learn....He again goes for the pass on the 3rd down....

  Gannon does call the plays they come in from the sideline.

> gets sacked near the 50 yard line putting the Vikes out
> of FG range.
> Net result... Instead of getting the game tying FG and putting
> the pressure on the 9ers...the Vikes-inept-O sees another
> chance go down the drain.
> 
> Again the Super-D rose to the occassion and saved the Vikes
> from getting blown away.  It is a *credit* to the Super-D
> that inspite of a non-functioning offence, they keep these
> games close. The Super-D got their 8th TD.
> 
> As for the O, the less said the better.  I am plain pissed.
> Atleast, Salsbury threw for completions...But Gannon
> ......EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEKS!!!!!!!!

   Even though I am a Gannon fan I have to say that he absolutely suck in
the 49ers game. However I am not willing to blame that totally on the QB.
He was playing well before he was pulled during the Cleveland game. And
it was apparent during the 49er game that he had totally lost his
confidence. Controversial statement to follow:

    The Vikings passing offense as a whole sucks. They don't have good
receivers and the play calls from the side line are terrible. When there
hasn't been anything up the middle during the game why in the hell call
a QB draw on third and 3?
     
    Gannon has alot of potential his stats show it but I think Green made
a very poor decision to pull Gannon and as a result may have ruin a good QB.
Yes, I know I will get flames on this but has anyone seen ANY improvement
in the offense. Looks like they are moving backward. 

 >  > Sorry , had to get this out of my system. >  > S.H

GO VIKINGS and Delaware Blue Hens
 
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From: nrau@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Nicholas Naveen Rau)
Subject: WILDCARDS, READ THIS!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:24:36 GMT

Many Redskins breathed a collective sigh of relief after they beat the Cowboys
yesterday as their playoff hopes look rather secure for at least a WC 3 spot.
However, a warning, circumstances could arise that would knock them totally
out and this could happen quite easily.

Suppose Washington loses to Philly next week (a very strng possiblity since
the Eagles are undefeated at home).  If the Eagles then win their last
game (which they will), Washington still wins their last game, Green Bay wins
their last two games, and Minnesota loses only to Green Bay, then Washington
won't make it to the playoffs.  Minn. and Green Bay will have tied records 
Minn will still win the division with the better div. record) as will Green
Bay and Washington (Green Bay will beat Washington since it has a better
conf. record).  While all this seems silly to predict these wins and losses,
the prblem is that this is a very possible scenario.  I know it sounds
crazy and farfetched but the Packers have been VERY hot lately and have their
goals firmly planted on that WC 3 spot.  Washington must win against Philly
next week in order to secure a spot (BTW, this would pretty much knock out 
Green Bay from the playoffs unless they won the division because the Eagles
have already beaten the Pack).

It's gonna get interesting in the next couple of weeks, guys.  You can't
say it hasn't been an interesting year.

Oh, and by the way, you AFC people.  SOMEBODY PLEASE TAKE CHARGE THERE!  I
don;t even like to look at that Playoff picture because every AFC team's
performance this year has been less than spectacular.

GEAUX SAINTS.

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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:30:10 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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>Dec 1977: Oakland at Baltimore, 37-31

The wonderful Jones vs Stabler game.  This was the day most Raider fans
declared Casper a God!

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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: JGH Computer Predictions Week 16
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 18 DEC 92 16:25:47    

Last week:       9-5
Cummulative:     140-56
Against spread:  Don't know.

Broncos      17 Bills        27    6 +
Giants        0 Cardinals    19    1 +
Steelers      6 Bears        30   -2 -
Falcons      35 Buccaneers    7    1 -
Browns       14 Lions        24    2 +
Cowboys      17 Redskins     20    1 +
Colts        10 Jets          6    3 -
49ers        20 Vikings      17    2 -
Patriots     20 Chiefs       27   10 +
Bengals      10 Chargers     27    8 +
Saints       37 Rams         14   -4 +
Eagles       20 Seahawks     17   -9 +
Packers      16 Oilers       14    6 -
Raiders       7 Dolphins     20    5 +


Next week:  Vikings favored over Steelers!  (Packers also favored.)  


Chiefs        at Giants           1
Buccaneers    at 49ers           15
Bears         at Lions            3
Bills         at Saints           6
Oilers        at Browns          -1
Rams          at Packers          3
Vikings       at Steelers        -1
Patriots      at Bengals          4
Redskins      at Eagles           4
Cardinals     at Colts            3
Chargers      at Raiders          2
Seahawks      at Broncos          8
Jets          at Dolphins        10
Cowboys       at Falcons         -4

How to read the predictions:  If the number after the game is a 
positive number then the home team is favored.  If it's a negative 
number the away team is favored.  The number after the game is sort of 
like a point spread but I still haven't taken the time to calibrate 
it.

JGH

"There are three things that are important to every man in this room.  
 His religion, his family, and the Green Bay Packers, in that order"
                   - Vince Lombardi as quoted by Jerry Kramer
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From: nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Nitin Khanna)
Subject: Re: Gannon's stupidity costs the Vikes.
Organization: Houses of the Holy
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 20:41:02 GMT

In article <Bz83tv.D3q@ns1.nodak.edu>, sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder ) writes:
> 
> Trailing 17-20 in the closing stages of the 4th Qtr, the
> Vikes get a first down in field goal range.  In the first
> play Allen gains 3 yards.  In  the second play, instead of
> continuing the running play Gannon goes to pass and gets
> sacked.....loss of yardage.  But the *idiot* does not
> learn....He again goes for the pass on the 3rd down....

I dont think it is Gannon's decision to go for the pass or the rush
unless the Vikings have suddenly started emulating the Broncos
of last year (Elway at the helm) and the Bills (Kelly).  Unless of
course you are saying that he should have seen something in the defense
and audibled.  But who's to say that a running  play would have done
any better unless the defense was giving a obvious pass defense away (and
even then)?


-- 
Nitin Khanna.  I Teach Eunuchs - I mean Unix.
Go Bulls, Bears, Broncos, Blackhawks.
From: zombie@EBay.Sun.COM (zombie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: WILDCARDS, READ THIS!
Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:13:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: zombie@EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: redeye.ebay.sun.com

In article B9B@news.cso.uiuc.edu,  nrau@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Nicholas Naveen Rau) writes:
[...]
>
>Suppose Washington loses to Philly next week (a very strng possiblity since
>the Eagles are undefeated at home).

What a bunch of hooey!  That's like saying "I have flipped this coin X
times, and every time it has come up heads.  Therefore, the next time
I flip it, it will probably be heads again."

Washington will stomp Philadelphia.

zombie

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:43:51 EST
From: Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Pack is Getting Closer!

Vikings fans have a good point though  The Steelers suck without Brister
This from a Steelers fan - else I think the Pack would win it  Pack should
beat out the Eagles for the last playoff though if they win their last two
This would be a serious blow to the Eagles fans - going 10-6 again and not
making the playoffs
** Rob **
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Call against the Vikes
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:02:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Hi

During he 49ers/Vikes games as Terry Allen was rushing for a possible first 
down, he was stopped short and a 9ers defensive lineman grabbed him by the
legs and lifted him up.  Flags flew.  The foul was against ... Terry Allen??

Did anyone else see this?  Did Allen do anything that warranted a foul??

Not a flame but just curious...

satish nair
(ray must) go, giants


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From: jmelchi@sage.cc.purdue.edu (????????????)
Subject: Superbowl
Keywords: Superbowl
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:02:16 GMT

     



     Prediction for Super Bowl match-up:

               AFC- Indianapolis Colts

                          vs.

               NFC- Green Bay Packers

       And Colts win 3-0!!!!!


          
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:40:12 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: asagar@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ashish Sagar)
Subject: Re: Mr Sajja:The Net Policeman??(Re:Redskins Repeat)
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:54:56 GMT

>Article 40054 in rec.sport.football.pro:
>From: Rajeev  Sajja
>Subject: Re: Mr Sajja:The Net Policeman??(Re:Redskins Repeat)
    >>Why have u taken upon yourself to act as a police man on the net.  
    >>I guess u derive some innane pleasure by picking on people.  If u were
    >>really concerned, then instead of just flaming away, u could have sent
    >>message to the system administrator alerting him of the problem.

>There you are again, waiting to pick on people. If you were so much concerned
>about what I did, there were quite a few people who voiced their concern
>about what that guy from princeton had done, you picking only on me

Yeah! Coz, unlike the others u have made it a habbit.

>justs shows that you didn't forget what happenned earlier on the net and you
>wanted to come back and do something.

I Am surprised at this.  What happened earlier on the net showed u in a
bad picture. After u received the reply, it helped u to realize that u were
wrong and enabled u to shut up.  So it's u who would have been looking for an 
excuse to get back and do something  and not me. 

>Being an eagles fan, what else can one expect from an eagles basher...

Nothing but some sense to be drilled into u.

>that figures doesn't IT...

IT sure does.

>hey, you know what you are a "pathetic excuse for a 49ers whining fan"

Niners 12-2. Eagles 9-5. Need we say whose gonna be whinning???  And I
doubt it that the Niner fans ever whinnned even after they lost to
Phoenix.  Infact they acked the fact that the better team won that day, 
and did not go looking for excuses.  I guess thats not our trademark , 
but maybe its yours.

And by the way Sir, what are u? A perfect example of an ABCD(American Born COnfused DESI) or DCBA(Desi Confused by America) having some kind of complex with
respect to other desi's in particular.

Sigh! U Still cant digest the fact that the niners are on their way to a
complete home field advantage and your eagles are fighting it out for a
wild card.  


AND PLEASE NOTE: If u wanna keep this going on I'll suggest u reply to me
via e-mail and spare the net of your boring net picking.  Sigh!  Guess
I'll sacrifice some time to keep a bored soul like u in good spirits
which u must be getting into after such posts.

>-Rajeev

Ashish
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:10:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:00:12 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
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Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: mcelha@david.wheaton.edu (Geoff McElhanon)
Subject: Come back instant replay !!!
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:25:27 GMT

I don't care what anyone says.  Washington did not win, Dallas did not lose.
They got robbed.

I am referring to the play that resulted in the go ahead TD for Washington in
the final two minutes of play.  The instant replay seemed clear enough to me on
two points.  Aikman's arm was definitely in forward motion.  The ball popped
out and up, just out of the reach of Aikman's hand, following it back.  Aikman
did what everybody else would have done.  He tried to "recover" the should have
been incomplete pass, but he didn't.  Then Emmit Smith picked up the ball and
did what any decent running back would do.  He tried to advance it out of the
end zone.  If you looked carefully at the instant replay, the ball was still in
his hand when his knee touched the turf, but he "fumbled".  

The result: Washington 20, Dallas 17.
What should have happened?  Dallas 3rd and ## from the 4.

This is a classic case of a very critical call that wasn't made because of the
lack of instant replay.  Now Dallas appears well out of position for any kind
of shot at home field advantage throughout the playoffs with the way San
Francisco is refusing to go down. 

One call says it all...

  Geoff. 

P.S. I do have to put a note in here that Dallas made too many mistakes.  I'm a
Cowboy's fan and I was so excited when the showed the game here in Chicago.
The only thing is that I watch their games cringing, waiting for them to make a
mistake.  Today, they made too many.  They lost a game that they should have
won.  They're still young.  I say they'll be a dominate force in the game
in a couple years...
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From: klbartle@david.wheaton.edu (Kevin Bartlett)
Subject: Sports GIFs
Summary: Where can I get 'em
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:31:04 GMT

OK.  I'm trying to expand my GIF collection, and I just realized
that I didn't have a single GIF of sports action.  Aren't there any
out there?  Or am I just looking in the wrong places.  Wheaton is
not on the Internet, so FTP sites don't do me any good.  Is there
a separate news group which posts sports GIFs, or would they be 
accepted on this group?  

					. . . the Mantis
					      (Evinrood)
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Only the Buccaneers could manage this.
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:01:06 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Dec15.223050.9726@pdn.paradyne.com> lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James) writes:
>San Diego Chargers.   We should have both our pick and Phoenix's pick in
>the 2nd round.

How did Tampa Bay get our 2nd round pick, I thought the Rueben Davis deal
was for a 3rd rounder no? 


Russ Smith
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