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From: ychung@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Young Chung)
Subject: Re: Wolf3d and 4dos
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:08:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.081741.25882@netcom.com> samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore) writes:
>ychung@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Young Chung) writes:
>
>>I need help with the Wolf3d setting under OS/2.
>
>>The game runs fine until it starts loading up the mission.  When the red line
>>reaches the right side the machine crashes.  When I go to DOS box then load up
>>the game I can go to WPS and kill the session, but when I run it directly by
>>double clicking on the WOLF3D game icon the whole machine crashes and I have to
>>do a cold boot.
>
>>I'm using 4DOS and 4OS2 on a 386-33 with a Soundblaster Pro card.  I'm using
>>IRQ 7 at this moment and I'm going to try IRQ 3 when I get time.
>
>1. Change the "retrace emulation" setting under dos to "off". This was what
>was killing you.
>
>2. I recommend setting the "interrupts during I/O" (don't have one ? see next).
>
>3. Install the SP if you have not already done so. It fixes a hangup when the
>game exits (you would will see if after you fix (1)), and also adds 2.
>
>4. The last time I checked, making a windows out of wolfie crashes os/2.
>I know of no fix, just don't go back to the desktop until you finish the
>game.
>

But the game used work fine except (3) before I installed 4DOS and 4OS2.


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From: lindor@eng.umd.edu (Lindor Eric Henrickson)
Subject: Re: Windows NT vs OS/2: Does NT worth the wait?
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 06:27:00 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <79270@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt7692b@prism.gatech.EDU (Constantinos Malamas) writes:
>
>I got a 486DX33 and I
>want an OS that makes some real use of the monster under the hood and has 
>nothing to do with a command line :)).... I really like OS/2 as a concept and
>'feel' and I prefer Windows's look, but before I go out and spend around $300
>in mem expansion (I got a sorry 4MB) and OS/2, I need some input on this
>so-talked-about Win NT... How much more of an OS is NT compared to 3.1 and OS2?
>Does it multitasking feel like 3.1 or OS2? How well does it perform? Most
>importantly, what are its hardware requirements? (one of the reasons I am
>having cold feet about OS2 is the magnificent 15MB for minimum installation NOT
>counting the swap files...) When is NT expected approx? So many OSs, just one
>PC.... Thanx everybody in advance....
>
>
>Costas Malamas________________________________________________________________
>Georgia Institute of Technology
>Internet: gt7692b@prism.gatech.edu

I've heard that NT will require min. 16MB RAM (practically speaking, that is),
whereas I am happily running OS/2 on a 486/33MHz with only 8MB RAM.  
Furthermore, I can't imagine that NT will take up less than 15MB disk space
(but to be honest, I don't really know).  

LH
lindor@eng.umd.edu
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Lost keyboard input
Date: 9 Jan 93 01:17:41 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1993Jan8.132845.8895@bnr.ca> arpw@bcars705.UUCP (Tony White) writes:
>Whenever I go into Windows (3.0) from OS/2 I "lose"
>the keyboard. No further input from the keyboard is
>accepted in either OS/2 or windows.
>I have a vanilla OS/2 install with the service pack
>fixes applies.
>Does anyone have an idea what might be going wrong?

Are you trying to run the real version of Windows under OS/2?  I
recommend against that -- OS/2 2.x includes Windows support (Win-OS/2)
as a built-in feature.

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From: anto@dutetvc.tudelft.nl (Anto Daryanto)
Subject: Copying OS/2 to another partition?
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 11:06:13 GMT


Hi netters, I saw a few weeks ago somebody has done this successfully
with xcopy. But I forget to save it. Anybody has a copy of it? Or
repost, please?

Thanks in advance,
Anto Daryanto
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From: rahayden@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (R Andrew Hayden)
Subject: Question from and idiot
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:19:28 GMT

I spend most of yesterday afternoon and night installing the 2.1 beta. 
Boy, that was fun (NOT!)

In any case.....

Please understand that I have NEVER used OS/2 before, having been a windows
geek forever.  

In any case, here is what my system looks like at this point:

386-25 w/ 8mb
Drive C:  105mb FAT (using boot manager defaulting to DOS)
Drive D:   54mb FAT
Drive E:   70mb HPFS (OS/2 is installed here) 
WD/Paradise VGA w/ 512k
SoundBlaster

Now, I installed the MMOS/2 thingy and now I get an error something like
the following:

SYS1201:  Device Driver E:\mmos2\sbd2.sys on line 65 not installed.  Line
65 ignored.


Line 65 is:
DEVICE=E:\MMOS2\SBD2.SYS 1 7 220 4


Without killing me for my apparent stupidity, can anyone tell me what is
wrong here?

Thanks.

BTW:  I'm learning fast.  Without having any docs of any type, I created
my first program icon, for a communications program.  I'm happy.

Simple things for simple minds, I guess. :-)

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From: tom@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Tom Salzmann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Ready for Letters under OS/2
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 12:52:33 EST
Organization: SalzoBoard BBS

king@cs.uq.oz.au (Paul King) writes:

> suggestions?  I would be happy to have a way gave me access to Ready
> For Letters (i.e gave the whole machine temporarily to this session)
> as long as I could get back to the WPS without a reboot.  Would it
> be possible to trap Ctrl-Alt-Del just for particular "real DOS"
> sessions and revert back to WPS instead of rebooting?

Well, the way I did it is that my daughter's rabbit ICON kicks off a bat
file that puts a 'flag file' in a temp directory.  The bat file then runs
boot /dos (I have dual boot set up) and the system reboots in dos.  The
autoexec checks for the temp file.  When found, the game is played and
after exiting os/2 is rebooted.  Disgusting but it's the only way I could
find to avoid sending back the game.  It's somewhat seamless, but folks
logged into my bbs don't like when that curly headed rascal boots them
off.  :-)

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From: dbhlve@acpub.duke.edu (Robert Newlin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: WP4DOS & Keyboard LU
Keywords: WP4DOS Keyboard
Date: 11 Jan 93 05:03:52 GMT

Ever since I added the CSD, if I am editing in WP4DOS v 5.1 and move to
another window.  When I return to WP I usually have no keyboard.  I can
type, but after 15 key strokes it starts beeping at me.  The mouse works
ok.  Timed backup still occurs.  Using the mouse I can print and even
save if it already has a filename.  I've tried tapping various keys.
Using windows vs fullscreen. Turning off Backup. etc.  Anyone else had
this problem?

TIA, Bob
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From: hacker@cco.caltech.edu (Jonathan Bruce Hacker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: pj06485 - fix for ALT-HOME legit?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 04:25:20 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

There is a file on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in /pub/uploads called
pj06485.zip.  This file contains new dll's that claim to fix the
broken ALT-HOME key in DOS sessions (APAR PJ06485) that was introduced
by the service pack.  This file does not appear on IBM's Internet node
(software.watson.ibm.com) which makes me somewhat suspicious.

Does anyone know more about this fix?


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From: kitchin@lf.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Reformat needed to install 2.1 over 2.1 beta?
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:33:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Site
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Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz (Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan5.024123.25620@midway.uchicago.edu> pynq@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
: > 
: If you have a CD accessible from OS/2, then you probably can install it direct
: from the CD.....though recovery in the event of a failed install would be a
: pain in the butt.
:  
I didn't find this so.  They handled that rather well.  The first thing you
do (to install from CD ROM) is make two floppies that correspond to the first
two floppies of a floppy install (they are not identical and there is a
separate procedure for making these two floppies from making the first two
of the 29 floppy set.  Run the install command from the cd rom and it
will have a section for this).

As I mentioned elsewhere, I had to redo the install.  Because I thought
I was having a problem with the format (I wish they would give feed back
when format is run from the install as they do when run from a command
line prompt, i.e., % complete), I started over.  I booted the first two
floppies of GA and escaped to a command processor and ran format on my
disk.  The reason I though I had problems is that there are a number of
bad sectors that format tests and takes some time getting over.  This was
evident with the feed back of the command line version.  The install disk
version (when run during install) just sits there and tells me it's 
formatting.  Anyway I restarted the install on a clean disk.  I booted
the first two floppies and it found the CDROM and went from there.

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From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: OS/2 and Novell networks
Keywords: SONY CD-ROM, non SCSI
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:05:52 GMT

I just finished installing OS/2 2.1 Beta on a machine that is connected
to a Novell network.  Amazingly, it never occurred to me until this
moment that there might be a problem connecting it to the network.

(I guess I was spoiled by the DV/X install, which automatically detects
the presence of, e.g., Novell, and automatically does the right thing.
Anyway, I guess I just expected OS/2 to come with Novell support.)

Interestly, enuf, I can load SMCIPX, and NETX, in a DOS Window, and they
load w/o error, but the F: drive does not make itself known...

It does work, not surprisingly, in specific DOS.
Is this the state of the art?

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From: hoppie@kub.nl (Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers)
Subject: Re: Detach command.
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 07:52:25 GMT
Organization: Tilburg University, Tilburg, The Netherlands

Eh? I always thought that being able to push a running UNIX process in the background
with Ctrl-Z and call it back later with FG, together with the BG and JOBS commands,
were UNIX *shell* commands, and thus implemented by the shell, not by the UNIX
kernel?!? If I'm wrong, please tell me.

In this case, just get an OS/2 port of a csh of some kind that has job control built-in.
I know that OS/2 has more types of sessions than UNIX, but without job control in the
shell, it wouldn't work anyway. If you just run OS/2 text mode aps, I can imagine the
shell arbitrating console access easily. And running other (PM) jobs from a shell
does not need BG/FG switching -- being an PM app.


Jeroen

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From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SVGA problem: get 1024x768; how?
Date: 12 Jan 1993 20:48:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) says:

>Along a similar thread, the PS/ValuePoint machines come with drivers etc
>for 1024/768 but when selected it works in interlaced mode instead of
>non interlaced mode. Anyone able to get ti to work properly in non
>interlaced mode?

Are you sure that it is interlaced?  It may very well be 60htz non interlaced
which can flicker worse that 43htz interlaced, especially on monitors with
medium persistence phosophor.
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From: avedon@leland.Stanford.EDU (Roger Edmond Avedon)
Subject: OS/2 Drivers for Adaptec 1542B 
Keywords:  Adaptec, 1542B
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 01:31:35 GMT

Could someone using the 1542B under OS/2 tell me what drivers
I need, and where I can find them?  I'll be buying one shortly,
along with a SCSI HD.  I'm also considering getting a CD-ROM in the 
next few months.  

Thanks


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: gasman1@netcom.com (David A. Silva)
Subject: 1G HD Install OS/2 2.1
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:13:54 GMT


Just received the 2.1 beta CD. My setup is a 486DX2-50 ISA with AMI bios,
Adaptec 1542B, Toshiba MK-538FA 1.2G HD, Pioneer DRM604X CDRom, 16 meg
memory. My pre-existing partitions under DOS 5.0 are 300 meg primary,
660 meg extended divided into 2 330 meg logical drives. The config.sys on the
2nd disk has "basedev=aha154x.add /ET" for support of the Pioneer as per the
readme file on the CD. BTW, this is a clean install with no prior OS/2 on
this particular hard disk.

Using the CDRom install, I get thru the first 2 disks into FDISK. Fdisk
recognizes 212 meg of free disk space. I install boot manager-which then
automatically becomes a primary partition. I create a partition in the
remaining space, and it automatically becomes a primary partition. Fdisk will
not allow me to set this as installable. I then deleted both these new
partitions, and assigned the free space as one big extended partition. Fdisk
then will not allow me to install the boot manager.

I then deleted these partitions again, and booted the OS/2 v2 GA install
disks. I get to Fdisk, which only sees 64 meg of free diskspace. I install a
boot manager partition ( which again automatically becomes primary ) and set
the remaining freespace as a partition ( again, automatically becomes
primary ). I set the last partition as installable, continue and the screen
again selects C as the install drive. Entering fdisk again, the last
partition is not set as installable.

What amm I missing here? Any ideas how to solve this? Thanx - David
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From: jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin)
Subject: Re: Can't change icons under 2.1b
Organization: University of Maine, Department of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:26:17 GMT

In article <1ivcrs$br0@agate.berkeley.edu> stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton) writes:
>I just tried changing the DOS and OS/2 session icons to the rather lovely
>4DOS/4OS2 icons. I used the normal route, selecting the path (F:\4OS2 in this
>case) and selecting "FIND" or LOCATE. It told me there were no matching files
>there (Untrue)

Richard,

This is a known problem in the Beta.  To work around this, click on Find in
the "icon" (general, I believe) settings part as you normally would.  Then,
select the file Type of "Data File" before doing the find.  This will
pull up all the files in that directory, your icons included.

Jeff


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From: durby@usc.edu (Dennis Durby)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: CD Technologies Phone #?
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:25:48 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

Several folks have replied to my earlier post today, wherein I asked for 
suggestions as to what type/brand of CD-ROM I should buy. The Toshiba 3304 
(?) was suggested by several, who noted that it is available on a special 
purchase arrangement from CD Technologies for persons who have ordered the 
OS/2 PDK (or maybe its the 2.1 beta). Anyhow, I thought I'd jump the gun 
a bit and ask whether anybody has their phone contact number?  If so, I'd 
appreciate it if you would send it to me by email.  Thanks!!!

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From: mpearson@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Matthew Pearson)
Subject: ATI Graphics Ultra + / Orchid Prodesigner II ????
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 05:36:08 GMT

Ok.. I have the OS2 2.1 beta...

HOW do you get it to install the 256 color drivers??? Mine is only
loading the 16 color ones at ANY resolution...

I have an Orchid Prodesigner ][ (tseng et4000)
and am getting and ATI Graphics Ultra + card...

How in the blazes do you get these setup right?

Matt
From: m1phm02@fed.frb.gov (Patrick H. McAllister)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HPFS vs. FAT partitions
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:42:30 GMT
Reply-To: m1phm02@fed.frb.gov (Patrick H. McAllister)
Organization: Federal Reserve Board, Wash, DC

In article <1993Jan11.220300.4832@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU>, jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin) writes:
> In article <1irk9lINN9s7@neuro.usc.edu> merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin) writes:
> >Do I understand correctly that if you install OS/2 2.0 with HPFS that
> >it will not be able to see other DOS FAT partitions on the same disk?
> 
> No, you don't.  DOS won't see the HPFS partitions, but OS/2 does both.
> 
Still not correct. DOS running in a window under OS/2 will see the HPFS partition, but only those files that conform to the 8.3 name limitation.

Pat
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones)
Subject: Re: SVGA problem: get 1024x768; how?
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:02:23 GMT

In article <1ivaqsINNjqs@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell) writes:
>
>In a previous article, tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) says:
>
>>Along a similar thread, the PS/ValuePoint machines come with drivers etc
>>for 1024/768 but when selected it works in interlaced mode instead of
>>non interlaced mode. Anyone able to get ti to work properly in non
>>interlaced mode?
>
>Are you sure that it is interlaced?  It may very well be 60htz non interlaced
>which can flicker worse that 43htz interlaced, especially on monitors with
>medium persistence phosophor.
>-- 

Well, I believe it is interlaced because I unplugged my non interlaced capable
monitor and plugged in a slug monitor that isn't supposed to be capable
of non interlaced operation. It was still working fine. But lets say for
a second that it was 60Hx non interlaced. The PS/Valuepoint specs say they are capable of 1024x768 (256 colours) 60,70Hz. How do I get it to do 70 Hz.

An answer to either or preferably both questions would help!

thanks.
tj
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Video board, Beta 2.1, Networking
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:37:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1993Jan1.215703.21628@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec25.130018.7891@news.columbia.edu> Fidel Villa (fiv2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu) writes:
>>Please clarify : How does the 32-bit graphics engine work when you have 
>>a 16-bit video card? Are there any 32-bit video board around?

There's no problem using 32-bit code to access a 16-bit device.  After
all, the device just responds to signals on its address/data/IRQ
lines, and doesn't care one bit about protected/real/v86 mode.  All a
16-bit device means is that you can only transfer data to it 16 bits
at a time.

>I made that point about the "32-bit disk access" advertised for
>Microsoft Windows 3.1.  The word "access" was the problem.

What MS (probably) meant was that Windows could access the disk
directly (via 32-bit code) rather than switch into real-mode and use
DOS (as it used to do) which is much slower.

>>I have a NEC 4FG monitor (non-interlaced) but still acting like interlaced.
>>Is there such thing as interlaced video board? I have an AST 486/33 where
>>the video board is burned into the motherboard. Can I install another video
>>board without conflict?

The video board is always what determines interlacing.  Some boards
will auto-detect an NI monitor, but many won't.  If your board
supports it, there will probably be a program or a DIP-switch to set
this up.
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Lost Command Prompts folder
Keywords: help command prompts folder
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:38:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.232802.17281@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu (Sean J. Orourke) writes:
>I somehow managed to delete my Command Prompts folder.  Can someone please
>send me the settings for the Dual Boot, WIN-OS2, and "DOS from Drive A:" (I
>don't know if that last one's right, but you know what I mean) objects?  Any
>help would be much appreciated.

Very, very simple.  For the program name for each of these objects,
just use a single asterisk.  Then click on the right arrow and select
the session type (OS/2 Window, OS/2 Full Screen, etc).

For the DOS from Drive A:, use DOS Full Screen, then click on the DOS
Settings button to change DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE to A:.  (Just enter "A:"
in the box at the upper right after you click on DOS_STARTUP_DRIVE.)

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