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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:54:26 EST
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From:         wmerrill@IKAROS.HARVARD.EDU
Subject:      SSB, HCJB and BFOs

Regarding the recent discussion of SSB and whether music can be heard on
it, and also for those who wish to hone their BFO tuning skills. . .

HCJB has an SSB channel on the upper side band of 21455. WRTH says this is
24 hours a day. I've heard it at various times in English:16-1700 UTC, 2240
UTC Saturday (DX Party Line). The SSB signal received little interference
from R. Portugal on adjacent 21450. Compared to HCJB's AM outlet heard at
the same time on 17790 there was little fading, though the latter frequency
had better fidelity - I assume because the signal was more powerful.

Also I heard them yesterday  (1/5) with SSB on 17490 from 15-1700 UTC.
Music sounded fine on both SSB channels, but the BFO has to be right on the
money - which is not always the case as the DX440's BFO is a tad drifty.

Bill

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From: andrew@rentec.com (Andrew Mullhaupt)
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Subject: Re: FUTURE
Date: 8 Jan 93 03:07:23 GMT
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Organization: Renaissance Technologies Corp., Setauket, NY.

In article <rnewell.726363832@sol.UVic.CA> rnewell@sol.UVic.CA (Chief-Colin CUPE951) writes:
>I am a youngster to this hobby( listening since 1971 as
>a 12 year old ) and it was a lot more interesting then
>with an old HALLICRAFTERS and DX150B than it is now with
>my DX440 and SONY 2010. 

I'm about the same generation, but I had to go down the block to listen
to a Hallicrafters of a friend since I couldn't afford a decent rig. Now
a decent rig is a lot more decent and somewhat more affordable. If I was
a 13 year old now as opposed to 1971, I would have gotten a lot more DXing
than I did with that old Lafayette rig. But I still got Portuguese Timor!

I had about 100 QSL cards (mostly biggies) and some nice catches. But
DXing was always second to program listening for me, and although I
liked the programs then, I can't say they were better than now.

>Maybe I am jaded, but SWBC has become quite dull
>now that the cold-war is over. DXing in the seventies
>was it! And those days are GONE. :-(

Yeah, you're jaded. There are tons of DXing challenges if exotic DX
is all you want - how about MW DX from Europe, or if you really enjoy
patience how about VHF FM and TV DX? And what about all the new countries
in Central Asia? And there has been a _lot_ of useful program listening
due to all the exciting world events (fall of communism, Tienanmien, the
Gulf, etc.) Now you may get lots from CNN but can you carry it around
like an SW-1 which gets the BBC?

I don't think we'll see all broadcasters leaving SW, since a lot of
their audience are remote, not overly well supplied for power, and
CATV etc., are not feasible. The lower end SW sets around the world
probably are good indicators of what broadcasters may do.

The head of the BBC was recently interviewed, and I think they'll be around
for at least another 30 years as SW broadcasters.

Later,
Andrew Mullhaupt

An interesting aside: a lot of guys in my office have SW sets. One
guy wants news from home (China) and others are mostly program listeners.
We just hired a Croatian guy and he thought it a little odd that so many
many people chose to listen to SW for news in the US whereas it was
_necessary_ in Yugoslavia where he grew up in order to get unbiased
information. There is something of the reverse in today's situation.
The US media is highly inward looking and saturated with commercial
interests, (or in some cases anti-commercial interests).
From: cramer@Eng.Sun.COM (Sam Cramer)
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In-reply-to: krb@lester.appstate.edu's message of 7 Jan 93 19:44:00 GMT

Try Bi-Rite, 800-223-1970.  I believe they sell the 2010 for around $300.

Sam
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Please holler when you find one in the LA area folks.  Also tell were :)
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From: segross@uci.edu (STEVE GROSS)
Subject: Re: New user needs help with Radio Shack DX160
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Organization: UC Irvine College of Medicine
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:44:11 GMT

In article <6JAN199312274593@utrc.utc.com> wjm@utrc.utc.com (Bill) writes:

>I'm completely new to the world of short wave.  Someone gave me an old Radio 
>shack DX160 receiver to start me off.  All the controls are straightforward 
>except for using the 'band spread'.

>Apparently it is for fine tuning.  If so, why are only certain frequencies  
>listed on it?  Just how do I use it?

>Also, it seems as if there are 2 bands that cover pretty much the same 
>range; .4 to 1.5mhz I think, (don't have the unit with me right now).

>The person who gave it to me doesn't have the manual anymore and doesn't 
>remember how to use it.  

>Rather than try and order a manual from Radio Shack (Don't know if its even 
>available),  could someone familiar with this unit pleas give some 
>pointers?

>Thanks,
>Bill Mazeika     WJM@UTRC.UTC.COM

I've still got my old DX-160 and a manual, too, I think.  E-mail your 
address to segross@uci.edu and I'll photocopy the manual and mail it to you.

Steve
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 It seems that Kol Israel now requires listeners to send them a few IRCs
 in order for them to send their programme schedules on a regular basis,
 due to budget problem. I wonder if this is the case for everyone out
 there. 73's.
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Please holler when you find one in the LA area folks.  Also tell were :)
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From: joec@fid.morgan.com (Joe Collins)
Subject: Iraq et al
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:18:57 GMT

According to Dow Jones news, it looks like IRAQ and the allies are
on collision course for 5:30pm EST today.

I have yet to receive my WRTH so can someone post frequencies and
schedules for Radio Baghdad (English) and any know military frequencies
as well (not that the allies are likely to announce them)?

Thanks in advance....

Joe
joec@morgan.com
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Subject: Need help to find a good shortwave radio
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Date: 6 Jan 93 06:37:43 GMT

Hi netters!!
Does someone know about the sony shortwave receiver ICF-2001??? where
can I buy it with the good price and does it work well with the external
antenna sony-AN1, is this external antenna work well?? I need your adviser!!
thanks in advance
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From: martin@datacomm.ucc.okstate.edu (Martin McCormick)
Subject: Re: Christian broadcasting on SW
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater, OK
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 14:44:59 GMT


It is difficult to discuss the amount and quality of Christian broadcasting
on shortwave without sounding like "The Grench who Stole Christmas," but
there definitely is a lot of evangelical programming.  I have been a SWL
for almost 30 years and a ham for almost 22 of those years, and I have noticed
the increase in religious broadcasting.  While some stations like HCJB and
Christian Science Monitor Radio do a very good job of programming, many
evangelical broadcasters shouldn't be on shortwave.  They could probably
reach more people by spending money on satellite channels and air time 
in the target area than by pumping out hours of technically questionable
programming each day to many people who tune across and say, "What's wrong
with that signal?" and tune right on to something else.  I wondered if we
weren't hearing the future of HF shortwave broadcasting, a few years ago,
when I was tuning across the 19-meter band, one afternoon.  The only listenable
signals were three or four screaming preachers and one very distorted feed
of Radio Moscow from Cuba.

	Well, the programming from Radio Moscow has gotten lots more
interesting over the past couple of years, but there is still lots of
preaching to be heard.  Many of these evangelicals don't seem to even monitor
their own signal since I have heard them brodcast hours of programming with
serious technical problems with either the tape or the link to the transmitter.
One would expect to hear a technical disclaimer, but nothing happens.

	I am sure that many Christian shortwave stations are over-extended
on resources and that much of the programming is automated, but I think that
people will only listen when the technical quality is up to normal broadcast
standards.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ   Stillwater, OK
O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group
From: sranade@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Shrikant Ranade)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:50:25 GMT
Subject: Re: Ramsey SW Converter Kit
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
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In rec.radio.shortwave randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:

>franzis@evax.gdc.com writes:
>>        Does anyone out there have or know anything about the
>>        Ramsey shortwave converter kit ? I believe it sells for
>>        about $30.00.
>
>
>This enables an AM radio to receive shortwave.  I don't believe that it 
>works on radios that have digital readouts, so I did not get one.

OK, I'll bite.  If the Ramsey is a simple down-converter that mixes the
frequency band of interest into the MW region, why would the type of readout
on your MW radio make a difference?


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From: wws@craywr.cray.com (Walter Spector)
Subject: Re: Future importance of shortwave?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:34:16 CST

In article <CB.93Jan6134917@tamarack13.timbuk>, cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster) writes:
> Combined with similar news from Canada and elsewhere, this makes me
> wonder how much importance governments now put on shortwave
> broadcasting.

Hi Chris!

A friend of mine (who is also a ham) and I had a discussion about this
a few months ago.  He was mentioning about how the FCC is grabbing all
the ham frequencies (esp. uhf and microwave).  In a pessimistic way he
figured that in 20 years, amateur radio would not exist - no spectrum
left.

My position, forever the optimist, was that with all the commercial,
government, military, etc. communications moving to satellite and
microwave, the only thing *left* on shortwave in 20 years would be
hams and broadcasters (and CBers).  Evidence to back this up?
At recent WARCs, both hams and broadcasters *gained* SW spectrum.

SW is a pretty economical media compared to satellites, dishes,
microwave equipment, spread spectrum gear, magic decoder rings, etc.
It is dirt cheap to broadcast and dirt cheap to receive.  Very popular
in the third world.

I don't know what VOA's budget is, but I'll bet it is measured in
only 10s of millions of $$ a year.  Considering the coverage and
listenership, it is cheap.  And many of the major broadcasters are
already supplying satellite feeds.

Besides: it isn't much fun writing for QSL cards when you merely point
a dish and listen in FM quality sound.  Somehow picking through the
static, waiting for that weak signal, tweaking the antenna for that
last db, trying to figure out the atmospheric conditions, etc. is
far more romantic and challenging.  Then the QSL card really means
something!

> Somewhat related question: how and why does UK pay for a service as
> gigantic as the BBC!?

As they say, Tax and Spend.  :-)

Walt
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From: tmrdpsrs@engvms.unl.edu
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Subject: Re: Christian broadcasting on SW
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:08:25 CST
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> It is difficult to discuss the amount and quality of Christian broadcasting
> on shortwave without sounding like "The Grench who Stole Christmas," 

I'm glad, however, that somebody brought this topic up.
									
> evangelical broadcasters shouldn't be on shortwave.  They could probably
> reach more people by spending money on satellite channels and air time 
> in the target area than by pumping out hours of technically questionable
> programming each day to many people who tune across and say, "What's wrong
> with that signal?" and tune right on to something else.  
> 
> Martin McCormick WB5AGZ   Stillwater, OK
> O.S.U. Computer Center Data Communications Group


I might be a little crazy, or just not observant enough, but has anyone else
noticed that various religious stations take up a HUGE amount of bandwidth??
The signals are always strong, so it's not really surprising, but other booming
stations like the VOA don't seem to have this problem.  I have not bothered to
listen long enough to pin down exactly which stations do this (They really do
all sound alike!) but next time you come across a strong religious station 
while tuning through the bands take note of this.  Try the 16 and 19 meter 
bands during the day to see what I mean.

I have wondered if these stations do this to insure that they "shout the
loudest," since their message is so important to them and everybody just has 
to hear it!...I don't mean to sound offensive, but that explanation does make
some sense to me.

Ron Synowicki
tmrdpsrs@engvms.unl.edu

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From: rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (ICOM IC-R70)
Subject: Re: Panasonic RF-B45?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:52:19 GMT


|I just received one of these as a gift,

I just gave one as a gift...

|How does it compare with the others?  I've never seen the others, so I
|quite frankly have no idea.  I'm happy with mine, but since I didn't
|actually spend any of my own money on it, that evaluation should be
|taken with a grain of salt.

The person whom I gave the unit to stated that it was less sensitive
than an old SONY ICF-2001 unit.

Some susceptibility to powerful CB rigs (Linears?) was noticed.

Single selectivity.

Variable BFO via thumbknob allows SSB to be tuned, but, like WRTV
handbook states, there is no reference point on the pot to reset
the BFO.

No dial lamp, but power on LED... seems that putting a dial light
in behind the LCD display and a mechanical florescent flag indicator
button (like a lot of professional test equipment uses) would have
made more sense.
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From: jcarroll@ferris.cray.com (Jeff Carroll)
Subject: Re: Christian broadcasting on SW
Originator: jcarroll@ferris
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:59:29 CST


In article <CB.93Jan8134533@tamarack13.timbuk>, cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster) writes:
> Keshav Havnurkar writes:
> 
>    I was randomly tuning in SW freq range. One thing that
>    amazed me was that in SW band , there are so many stations
>    that broadcast 'church sermons'.
> 
> I'm particularly amazed by one service--I think it's WFYR Family Radio
> from Okeechobee FL.  They're on several frequencies, always strong.
> What I can't figure is that the _same_guy_ is always talking on this
> service!  Even if some of his airtime is accounted by tapes being
> replayed, he must spend an awful lot of time speaking into a mike.  Does
> anyone know the story on this bionic preacher?
> 
> Chris Brewster
> cb@cray.com
> 

A favorite radio preacher of ours was the Rev. J. Vernon McGee, whose
broadcast career was interrupted by his death a few years ago for only
about a week. You can still hear Rev. McGee just about everywhere in
America - and, no doubt, around the world - every day, doing one of
his broadcasts that go "Through The Bible" in what is claimed to be
the space of five years.

I think I know the voice you refer to, although I don't know the name
associated with it right off the top of my head.

Jeff Carroll
carroll@herndon.cray.com
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> I live in Dallas and just called to get the address:
> ...
> Arlington,TX 76011 ...

Nope -- the earlier address in Washington is the current
correct one for KCBI Shortwave.  The Arlington one is for
KCBI FM -- no longer owned by the same people.
  You know whaqt they say about assumptions ....  ;)
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KCBI
411 Ryan Plaza Drive
Arlington, Texas  76011
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The future of Short-wave is:

The exodus of all military, aeronautical, marine
and telegraphic into the microwave zone.
The super-power players of the medium will also
withdraw leaving the domestic spectrums wide open
to become more like the 120m. 90m and 60 meter bands..
Amateur Radio will fill the other increasingly wide
gaps.

I am a youngster to this hobby( listening since 1971 as
a 12 year old ) and it was a lot more interesting then
with an old HALLICRAFTERS and DX150B than it is now with
my DX440 and SONY 2010.

Maybe I am jaded, but SWBC has become quite dull
now that the cold-war is over. DXing in the seventies
was it! And those days are GONE. :-(

In the 90's , my gear has been used largely to
set my watch from WWV or CHU  and scan the tropical
bands, the last domain of real DX.


colin
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In article <65930103201156/0002446376PK3EM@mcimail.com> 0002446376@MCIMAIL.COM
writes:
> ......
> But that's not all, The WRTH editorial team decided to present a
> special fourth award. This is not to a receiver manufacturer but
> an organlsation which has done a great deal to report on the
> world of broadcasting year after year. On September 17th 1992
> editor of the World Radio Handbook, Andrew Sennitt presented BBC
> Monitoring with an award marking two decades of co-operation
> between the two organisations. We value the work being done by
> the WBI staff in Caversham under the leadership of Richard
> Measham and we thought this anniversary was worth marking by
> presenting them with the award for Special Contributions to
> International Broadcasting.

I'm trying to introduce Richard to the wonders of the Internet so
watch this space... He is my boss at Caversham and always amazes me
with his knowledge of international broadcasting.

I have only just started reading r.r.s but will try to contribute if
I can. It's a pity that we are so backward in computing & network
facilities at work or I wouldn't have to pay for my own host machine.
Maybe one day I can be sysop of the BBCM BBS! (Don't hold your breath)

Mike.
[Broadcast Research Op./BBC Monitoring]
From: michaelb@wshb.csms.com ( WSHB Operations Eng)
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Subject: Re: American Commercial Shortwave Broadcasting
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:28:21 GMT
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Organization: WSHB, Herald Broadcasting Syn., Inc., Cypress Creek, SC, USA

>I have some questions about shortwave broadcasting...
>
>What is the feasability of making commercial broadcasts over shortwave in the
>USA?  Is it legal?  Are there any commercial stations in the US?  What is the
>investment required to establish a station that could be easily heard with a
>radius of 100 miles, for example?


Commercial HF broadcasting is definatly legal in the USA. In fact, that's
the only place privatly owned shortwave station are legal. Just a for
instance, that's what we do here! The restriction is that we are *NOT*
allowed to target the USA as an audience. There is a minimum power
requirement of 50 KW also, so the investment is pretty substantial. There
are fees every six months for frequency coordination also. It's not
something you can undertake as a hobby, but there are a couple of low
budget groups with dedicated support that do an adequate job of remaining
on the air. 

Michael
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Subject:      Re: '93 WRTH

On Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:35:23 GMT Richard Crisp said:
>I picked up a copy of the 93 WRTH today. I was shocked when I loked in the
>back of the book for the shortwave table. I have been monitoring the
>tropicals a bit this winter and particularly have focused between
>4.8 and 5.1mhz. Well to my chagrin it appears they have left out all of the
>frequencies between 4.8 and 4.9mhz. Now those stations have not disappeared
>as my receiver will attest, but as far as the shortwave table in the 93
>WRTH is concerned, they have. What a bummer!

Richard,
   I'll be happy to pass along your comments to Andy Sennitt.
I think you've found a mistake in the listing, which will he won't be too
happy about.  I also saw an error in the map of the USA in the section
that begins the North America listings.  Look at the states of Kansas and
Nebraska.  Topeka is shown as the capitol of Nebraska (Actually, Topeak
is the capitol of Kansas.)  Lincoln, the true capitol of Nebraska isn't
shown, and Kansas is shown with no capitol city.  Oh well, the Handbook
isn't bought for its maps, but your discovery of the frequency omissions
is more critical.

You've got a sharp eye.



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Has anyone experimented with the connectors on the back of the DC777?
There is an accessory that plugs in that allows remote funtions.

Anyone have the service manual for the DC777??

                          Ken
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