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From: stewart@tweety.cis.udel.edu (John Stewart)
Subject: Re: Questions about ypset and ypbind -ypset
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:37:03 GMT

In article <JDELL.92Oct11180745@nefertiti.mit.edu> jdell@nefertiti.mit.edu (John Ellithorpe) writes:
>On 11 Oct 92 19:25:40 GMT, olsenc@carson.u.washington.edu (Clint Olsen) said:
>> I was wondering about the use of ypset.  On HP-UX, you
>> can issue a ypset to any client with no problems, but on
>> a Sun (SunOS 4.1.2 -- Sparc 2), ypbind seems to reject
>> my request for a ypset.
>
>> What's the deal?
>
>I think that SunOS is trying to keep you from using ypset too easily, so they
>make you kill ypbind and restart it with the ypset flag (ypbind -ypset), then
>you can use ypset all you want.

I believe the answer to the original question deals with the
difference between the "-ypset" and "-ypsetme" flags to ypbind.
As I understand it, starting ypbind with "-ypset" allows you to
[re]set the NIS domain from any machine, while the "-ypsetme"
argument allows the NIS domain to be [re]set from the localhost
only.  It is an issue of security versus ease for system
administrators.

Good luck.

/jws
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Size of swap file
Date: 11 Oct 92 19:09:36 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>There's no reason why swapping to a file should be significantly less
>efficient than swapping to a partition.  You shouldn't have to go through
>any filesystem structures; the swapon command should extract all the disk
>page locations and put them into the appropriate kernel data structures.

"should be" != "is".

Perhaps the "swapon()" call (the "swapon" command just does a "swapon()"
call) *should* do that stuff, but it *doesn't* do that stuff.  For one
thing, there's no VFS operation to allow it to get that kind of
information, so it *can't* do that stuff unless it specifically knows
about UFS, and it doesn't know about UFS.
From: mcooper@acamar.usc.edu (Michael A. Cooper)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: ID'ing Sun models remotely
Date: 11 Oct 1992 15:36:05 -0700
Organization: USC Computing Services, Los Angeles
NNTP-Posting-Host: acamar.usc.edu

mikebo@i88.isc.com (Michael Borowiec) writes:

>Is there a way to identify the various Sun models within an architecture.
>For example, I want to be able to tell the difference between and SLC
>(4/20) and an ELC (4/25) without having to get up and walk over to the
>machine... Is there a way to do this?
>- Mike

Try my "sysinfo" program available for anonymous ftp on usc.edu as
/pub/sysinfo/sysinfo.tar.Z.


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From: hue@island.COM (Pond Scum)
Subject: Re: Help needed attaching 10BaseT workstation to thinnet
Keywords: TPE ethernet 10BaseT thinnet
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:19:52 GMT

kenneth@rss.dl.nec.com (Kenneth East) writes:
>We have recently acquired a SS10-31, and are experiencing difficulty
>in connecting it to our existing thinnet network.  Both Sun and our
>distributor have drawn blanks on the problem thus far, so I am
>soliciting advice from the net.  No doubt, the problem lies in my
>ignorance of 10BaseT cabling and devices.

>Here's our setup:

>       ---------                -----------   
>      | SS10-31 | <----------> | Milan     | <========== existing 
>       ---------               | converter |              thinnet 
>                                -----------               network

I have this exact setup.  I built a short cable which swapped 1 and 3, and
2 and 6, everything else no connects, and it worked.

The tpe-link-test? variable is set to TRUE in the PROM.

>connections (i.e. both TPE and thinnet).  Traffic on the existing
>thinnet network causes the appropriate lights to flicker on the
>converter, as one would expect.  We are unable to cause the
>corresponding lights for the TPE side of the converter to flicker at
>all.  Thus, it appears that no communication is taking place between
>the SS10 and the converter.

The LED for the 10BASE2 side will flicker as long as there is traffic on the
thinnet.  If you can't get the LED for the 10BASET side to flicker the cable
you are using is wrong.  The LINK LED should be on all the time if your
you have the right cable and tpe-link-test? is set to TRUE.  When I had
it set to FALSE the LINK LED would flicker with the RCV LED and I couldn't
ping any other machines on the network.

>We have also tried a "crossover" TPE cable, with the same results.

If you made it yourself, perhaps pin 1 isn't where you think it is.  I had
to make two cables, as I had guessed wrong on the first one.

-Jonathan		hue@island.COM
From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Size of swap file
Date: 13 Oct 1992 22:39:03 -0400
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

In <14931@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:

>Perhaps the "swapon()" call (the "swapon" command just does a "swapon()"
>call) *should* do that stuff, but it *doesn't* do that stuff.  For one
>thing, there's no VFS operation to allow it to get that kind of
>information, so it *can't* do that stuff unless it specifically knows
>about UFS, and it doesn't know about UFS.

So how much of a performance degrade should one find from swapping
on a file vs. swapping on a partition?

I'm not just asking for curiousity, I know a lot of people trying to
run some really large applications where a 10% performance increase
means a lot.  (they do a lot of swapping)

Tom

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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Plenty of free space on drive, but 100% full?
Followup-To: alt.fan.spinal-tap
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:55:27 GMT

Vidiot> == Vidiot  <brown@ftms.UUCP> 

 Vidiot> So, you can really go to 110% with a BSD file system.

``This one goes to 11!''

(Ignore me, it's been a long week)
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From: bfong@mystery.ossi.com (Beda Fong)
Subject: libc_resolv for sun3 sunos 4.1.1
Reply-To: bfong@mystery.ossi.com
Organization: Open System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:10:40 GMT

Hello,  Where could one find the libc with the resolver routines in it
for sun3 running sunos 4.1.1?  I could not find it on uunet.
uunet only had it for sunos 4.0.3.
(it should be called something like libc_resolv.so.sun3)
(this is the libc to run with named for DNS)

Could someone point me to the right place? 

Please send mail directly to me at: 
   
                 bfong@ossi.com and bfong@btr.com 

since I don't read this group on a regular basis.

Thanks in advance!!!
Beda


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From: davek@kestrel.ims.com (Dave Koon)
Subject: Automount/NIS question
Reply-To: davek@kestrel.ims.com
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:12:26 GMT

Greetings,


I am working with several Suns that make heavier and heavier use of
automounter.  I have run into a rather annoying problem in that automount
must be killed and restarted in order for it to recognize new entries in
the map.

Some associated caveates:  I inherited a non standard environment
where we are not using the standard home.direct, home.indirect, and
home.master maps.  We run two invocations of automount: one with 
automount.sys(a home grown variety of auto.direct) and automount.users
(home.indirect).

Is this normal that automount does not reread the nis maps?

I will condense and post any responses.

Thanks,

Dave Koon
Network Administrator
IMS Integrated Measurement Systems
(503)626-7117
davek@ims.com



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From: morgenst@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu (Craig Morgenstern)
Subject: booting diskless SLC when server is in another subnet (help)
Organization: Texas Christian University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:44:58 GMT

Is it possible to boot a diskless client when the server is in another subnet?
The client gets its IP address, but then hangs with the message 

          No bootparam server responding

The bootparam server has interfaces to both subnets (the client is
on 138.237.1). 

% ifconfig -a
le0: flags=63<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING>
        inet 138.237.7.1 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 138.237.7.0
le1: flags=63<UP,BROADCAST,NOTRAILERS,RUNNING>
        inet 138.237.1.10 netmask ffffff00 broadcast 138.237.1.0
lo0: flags=49<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING>
        inet 127.0.0.1 netmask ff000000

I'm somewhat of a novice at this and would appreciate any and all comments.

Thanks in advance,

Craig Morgenstern
morgenst@riogrande.cs.tcu.edu
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From: per@erix.ericsson.se (Per Hedeland)
Subject: Re: Plenty of free space on drive, but 100%
Nntp-Posting-User: per
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 11:59:40 GMT

In article <14928@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
[ quoting me: ]
>>If I remember correctly, the 4.3 BSD kernel will
>>switch automatically between "space" and "time" whenever you cross the
>>10% line,
>
>Nope.

Of course Guy is right (as always:-), and my news spool (now running at
10% minfree) did in fact get switched from "time" to "space" automatically
yesterday when fragmentation went above 8%... Still, I did manage to get
over 9% fragmentation with minfree 0, and I'm pretty sure 'dumpfs' claimed
that it was still optimized for "time", and I know that things got much
better a while after I had manually switched(?) to "space"...

I also manipulated minfree at that time though, and it's possible that I
had set it high enough (certainly was more than 10%) that the filesystem
got switched to "time" before I looked at the output of 'dumpfs'.  I
suppose that the bottom line is that there isn't really much point in
trying to set optimization manually, and that sometimes even 10% minfree
isn't enough...

--Per Hedeland
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From: jxh@certes.icd.teradyne.com (Jim Hickstein)
Subject: Re: MORE on: le0 - No carrier - transceiver cable problems?
Organization: Teradyne, Inc. Boston MA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 01:38:37 GMT

>> <> I get this error message when I'm booting:
>> <> 
>> <> 	le0: No carrier - transceiver cable problem?

[forever.]

Put this in your /etc/rc.local:

	ifconfig le0 down

You'll still get a few at boot, but it'll shut up after that.  No paper
clips, no screwdrivers, no kernels.
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From: yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Understanding the differences/advantages of software
Summary: "admin without a clue"
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:15:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: ll.1992Oct14.121547.28751
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory


	I read about and here people discuss what gnu-this or that
	will do for you that other software won't.

	How can I know what the features of these software packages
	are for myself.  How do these people find out?

-- 
	Alan Yasutovich
	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......
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From: earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed)
Subject: Re: /usr/etc/mount -vat lo  SunOS 4.0.3 Weirdness
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Summary: Add "export PATH" to a 4.0.3 /etc/rc.local
Organization: Gainfully unemployed
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:09:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.163100.18940@octel.com> hbo@octel.com (Howard Owen) writes:
>We use loopback mounts here to help with architecture transparency.
>When we reboot our Sun3s running SunOS 4.0.3, the mounts fail. This is
>the command in rc.local:
>
>/usr/etc/mount -at lo					>/dev/console
>
>and this is a typical loopback mount entry in /etc/fstab:
>
>/usr/local/.bin/sun3-40 /usr/local/bin lo ro,bg   0 0

Good lord, it's been eons since I first answered this one.  "Sherman, to the
Way-Back!  Set the dials for 1989 ... " :-)

The reason it fails on a 4.0.3 machine is because the 4.0.3 /etc/rc.local
forgot to do an "export PATH" after the "PATH=..." command at the top.  When
your "mount -at lo" command gets executed, it says "Uh oh, a loopback mount -
better exec mount_lo to handle it".  This fails because mount_lo is located in
/usr/etc, which (seemingly) is in the PATH, but because it ($PATH) is not
exported, the exec fails.

Adding a " ; export PATH" to the "PATH=..." in the 4.0.3 rc.local solves this.

>The problem also appears when we attempt to do the mounts with rsh:
>
>root@server% rsh blat /usr/etc/mount -vat lo
>mount: unknown filesystem type: lo
>mount: giving up on:
>   /usr/local/bin

Barry Margolin already answered this part satisfactorily.

	- Your friendly neighborhood gainfully unemployed Sun guru
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From: wargopl@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Peter L. Wargo)
Subject: Re: Size of swap file
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:27:33 GMT

mikey@yoho.carleton.ca (Mike G McFaul) writes:

>In article <1992Oct6.183327.2025@fripp.ri.cadre.com> jh@cadre.com writes:

[... swap discussion deleted]

>This 'rule' is bogus... The amount of swap should be at least equal to
>the amount of RAM you have but does not need to be larger. The real
>question that should be asked is what kind of processes are you
>running on the machine? Do they require lots of memory? If a 'pstat
>-s' shows that you consistantly are only using 24 Megs of swap, you
>only probably need 32 Megs of swap, and you probably also only need 32
>Meg of RAM. If however you run huge cadcam systems that eat memory you
>will need more swap. If you have enough money to buy as much memory as
>you have swap the machine will run much better.

Agreed.  To quote many a fine mechanic, "If it ain't broke, don't fix
the damn thing!"

The "killer apps" are the ones you have to watch out for.  In addition
to the cad/cam setups, DTP eats up a ton of memory and swap.  We run
Interleaf 5.3 on varios SPARC systems, and we had to keep upping swap
space to remove some nasty crashes.  Right now, the IPC sitting on my
desk has 24M of RAM, and ~80M of swap.  But, if I increase my memory to
36M (which I plan to), I will not increase swap space.


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From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: Duplicating 4.1.1 boot tape for 3/80? how?
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:18:19 GMT

In article <ASAH.92Oct8103315@cory.cory.Berkeley.EDU> asah@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Adam Sah) writes:
>
>I am the proud owner of a new (used) Sun 3/80 and wish to duplicate the
>  boot tape for safety reasons (ie. sun is famous for writing 0's to tape
>  scsi devices on shutdown if left in the drive... ouch).

Really?  I didn't know that.  Now I'm REALLY glad I made backups
of mine!!!

>I am told that you cannot 'dd' it because of variable block sizes, but that
>  the gurus of the net universe have a way around this.

Yup, that's true.  Sneaky, ain't it???  8^)

Well, I tried using a package called tprobe, but had all kinds
of trouble.

I then found something called copytape (found using archie) and
it worked like a charm.  Slow, but it worked.

>Hardware: 3/80, 150MB SCSI Tape (archive viper 2150S)

Now this is where you may run into some trouble.  The original
SunOS tapes on my 3/60 were 60MB tapes.  I assume they are
in the same format on the 3/80.  You will probably not have
any trouble reading them, but writing them back out might pose
a problem.


-greg

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From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: mesg problems
Keywords: talk, mesg, ttys
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 17:06:34 GMT

In article <1b9859INNl98@iraul1.ira.uka.de> mock@i41s18.ira.uka.de (Markus Mock Betr.Philippsen) writes:
>Hello,
>
>we are running Sparcs under SunOS 4.1.1. When I try to turn off the capability to be
>'talked' to by  typing mesg n (in the appropriate xterm window) I get:
>mesg: cannot change mode
>When I  look at the tty then, it looks like this:
>crw-rw-rw-  1 root     wheel     20,   2 Oct 11 13:50 /dev/ttyp2
>
>What's wrong?

The tty is owned by root.  You can't change the mode of a file that
you do not own.  (you aren't using cmdtool by chance are you?)

--Dave
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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.unix.admin,comp.mail.sendmail
Subject: Need comsat/biff for shared mail spools
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:40:42 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

We have a network of Sun 3's and Sun 4's running Sun OS 4.1.1

Recently we reconfigured mail so that all machines share one central
mail spooler, and users can read their mail from any machine at any
time. A side effect of this is that biff now works only on the mail
spool machine (xbiff works fine.)

  Does anyone out there have a replacement for comsat or biff which
will allow users to run biff on the machine of their choice?

thanks, Betsy (who now has to READ mail to see if it is important!)
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From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Duplicating 4.1.1 boot tape for 3/80? how?
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:08:54 GMT

greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) writes:

>>I am the proud owner of a new (used) Sun 3/80 and wish to duplicate the
>>  boot tape for safety reasons (ie. sun is famous for writing 0's to tape
>>  scsi devices on shutdown if left in the drive... ouch).
>>I am told that you cannot 'dd' it because of variable block sizes, but that
>>  the gurus of the net universe have a way around this.

I don't understand this.  Not long ago, I make a 1/4" 4.1.1 boot tape
from a 1/2" reel boot tape.  I just dd'd each file off the tape to disk,
then dd'd them to the 1/4" tape one at a time.

I've installed several systems with the new 1/4" tape without a problem.

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From: ksiazek@amnesia.cpg.trs.reuter.com (Steven Ksiazek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Errors in ypserv.log
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:17:23 GMT
Reply-To: ksiazek@amnesia.cpg.trs.reuter.com (Steven Ksiazek)
Organization: Reuter Client Site Systems, Inc.

We have been getting the following errors in the log file :

cannot open database /var/yp/kernel/mountopts.bysitepair

We keep getting volumes and volumes of these messages. In fact the logfile
grew to > 3MB until it finally filled up the disk partition. The question is
How do I determine who is asking for this YP/NIS map ? Our file servers and
YP servers are still running Sun OS 4.0.3. The majority of the clients are
Sparc family workstations running Sun OS 4.1.1 or 4.1.2. There is also a
small population of HP 9000 and RS6000 workstations.

Anybody out there have a clue how to find the offending workstation / software
package ?


Thanx,
Steven Ksiazek
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From: klg@statsci.com (Kevin L. Gross)
Subject: Re: Plenty of free space on drive, but 100% full?
Reply-To: klg@statsci.com (Kevin L. Gross)
Organization: Statistical Sciences, Inc
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:40:25 GMT

goran@astro.uu.se (Goran Hammarback) writes:

   .......................  Yes, there is more space on the disk than can
   be used by mortal users, but the reason for this is file system performance.  Only root can use up the extra space.  You can change this with tunefs
   (the minfree parameter), but if you go below 10% minfree, file system
   optimization changes from time to space.

So what, if any, is the correct answer? With one and two gigabyte disks,
is there a minimum below 10% minfree that is acceptable in terms of
performance? We have 4 1GB drives and are getting a 2GB, and it sure would
be nice to get that extra space.
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