HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: peter@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Peter N Lewis)
Subject: Re: Censorchip on AARNET
Followup-To: aus.aarnet
Organization: NCRPDA, Curtin University
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 01:04:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.084614.11293@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au>,
tcl@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Charles Layton ) wrote:
> 
> It seems to me that the best way to solve the recurrent requests for
> various banned newsgroups is to for some site to import them independant
> of the current link.  If the GIF groups were not included this could
> be done for a relatively small cost.  All that is needed is
> 	(1) a site to do it
> 	(2) a small contribution from everyone who has expressed a desire
> 		for one of these groups
> 	(3) organisation - probably the hardest bit.
> 
> Bingo, no more Censorchip.

You missed by far the most important - a commitmant by the AARNet
administration that a site that imports these groups via another link will
be allowed to redistribute the groups on to AARNet.  Last I heard on the
subject was that any site that did this could face having their link to
AARNet removed (I don't know how that fits with Pyramid importing and
distributing the alt.drugs group).

Peter or Geoff, care to comment on the AARNet-legality of the scheme?
   Peter.

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Peter N Lewis <peter@cujo.curtin.edu.au>             Ph: +61 9 368 2055
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: raytrace@cs.curtin.edu.au (RayTrace project)
Subject: organisers of ACSC 91, 92 and 93 ?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:15:09 GMT

I would greatly appreciate it if you could let me know which
universities organized the conference in the years 1991 and 1992.
Perhaps you could also let me know who will organize the 1993 conference.

Please email your reply.
thanking you in advance.
--

	Andrew Marriott.

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From: gih900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Geoff Huston)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Bureau of Meteorology, anyone ?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:24:41 GMT
Organization: Australian Academic and Research Organisation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 139.130.204.2
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


In  answer  to  your  query the Met Bureau is on AARNet - the name domain is
bom.gov.au,  so  a  good  initial  contact  point  would  be,   of   course,
postmaster@bom.gov.au 

Geoff
From: panissec@nms.otca.oz.au (Colin Panisset)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Censorchip on AARNET
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:14:08 GMT
Distribution: aus

}tcl@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Charles Layton ) writes:
}>carol@ee.uts.edu.au (Carol Gibson) writes:
}>>What I want to know is - who banned alt.sexual.abuse.recovery?
}>>(Apparently it got lumped in with all the other alt.sex newsgroups -
}>>which is an entireley inappropriate generalisation). Who does one
}>>have to lobby to get this ban revoked?

}>It seems to me that the best way to solve the recurrent requests for
}>various banned newsgroups is to for some site to import them independant
}>of the current link.  If the GIF groups were not included this could
}>be done for a relatively small cost.  All that is needed is
}>	(1) a site to do it
}>	(2) a small contribution from everyone who has expressed a desire
}>		for one of these groups
}>	(3) organisation - probably the hardest bit.

Regardless -- this is still not addressing the original question. 
alt.sexual.abuse.recovery hardly falls within the category of the alt.sex
hierarchy -- where is the group being cut off, and why? What can be done
to actually get groups like this into the country again?

--

  -Colin Panisset *:^)                         | "CTBCPP (Clay Tablet By 
         {panissec|colinp}@nms.otca.oz.au      |  Carrier Pigeon Protocol),
                                     So There. |  defined in RFC-39127"
From: craig@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Craig Dewick)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: apparent censorship of some newgroups
Date: 23 Jan 1993 16:53:35 +1100
Organization: Kralizec Dialup Unix Sydney: +61-2-837-1183 V.42bis
NNTP-Posting-Host: kralizec.zeta.org.au
Summary: big brother raises it's ugly head again
Keywords: big brother


This has probably already been thrashed out, but why is it that certain
newsgroups are being prevented from reaching our shores?

I don't need to mention the groups in question, but they relate to a certain
topic that some bozos seem to regard as taboo, mentally degrading, and as
'polluting' the network.

I have only one comment - this 'Big Brother' attitude of those who have control
of AARnet should not be able to restrict the newsgroups that are available.
As an underlying link to Internet, this automatically consigns AARnet
administrators to follow Internet policy, which is that ALL information should
be freely available to ALL users of the system. It's obvious that AARnet's
admin people believe otherwise.

The federal goverment already tries to control us enough. Now they're trying to
condition us against reading newsgroups containing articles in socially
sensitive topics. So what? This is supposed to be a democracy we live in.
Perhaps the damn 'thought police' have infiltrated Canberra as well, we might as
well live in a communist country if this sort of net-censoring continues.
-- 
 Craig Dewick, Station Master, Possum Power Tank BBS. +612-544-1060 (ringback).
    Send electronic mail to craig@kralizec.zeta.org.au, flames to /dev/null.
                      - Railway Preservation Industries -
          Supporting the Preservation of Australia's Railway Heritage
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: wales@ringss.enet.dec.com (David Wales)
Subject: Re: Censorchip on AARNET
Reply-To: wales@ringss.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. Sydney Australia.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:27:19 GMT


G'Day,

In article <1993Jan20.084614.11293@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au>,

>carol@ee.uts.edu.au (Carol Gibson) writes:

>What I want to know is - who banned alt.sexual.abuse.recovery?
>(Apparently it got lumped in with all the other alt.sex newsgroups -
>which is an entireley inappropriate generalisation). Who does one
>have to lobby to get this ban revoked?

	We are always told that the reason for the censoring of the alt.sex.*
and alt.drugs hierarchy is that NASA didn't want to be seen to be paying for
the transmission of said groups from the US to Oz (they pay for half the link).
Now what is to stop some local person creating the same hierarchy but instead
of being alt.sex.* make it aus.sex.*?  If the distribution was set to aus then
there should be no traffic outside of Australia (although this is not always
the case as the message that I am following up to was set for aus dist. but it
made it to my server which is in the US).  If these groups were created would
somebody then come up with another excuse for not allowing them?

David. 	

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From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Censorchip on AARNET
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:14:24 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

In article <mark.727571699@coombs>, mark@coombs.anu.edu.au (Mark) writes:
> tcl@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Charles Layton ) writes:
>>carol@ee.uts.edu.au (Carol Gibson) writes:
...
> Slight problem in that they arent allowed to be carried on internal AARNET
> links either. 
> 

Oh? why pray tell. It will not affect the US-AU link, Which as we all know so
well is the REAL reason they arn't imported. :-)

~Paul
From: marc.gratton@synapse.org (Marc Gratton) 
Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: HELP ME!
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:50:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: marc.gratton@synapse.org (Marc Gratton) 

Hello to all, I need help for my unusual collection and hobby and maybe
someone in Australia can give me a boost.

I collect pocket game schedules. I have some shedules of these following
sports:
-Hockey
-Baseball
-Soccer( you may call it Football )
-American style Football
-Basketball

but I am looking for cricket, or rugby or Aussie Rules Football, pocket
game schedules of ANY TEAM, ANY YEAR.

I do not have any Schedules from outside the U.S.A. and Canada andd my
goal is to have some from worldwide...

If there is anybody that can or could help me, I'm willing to send him
some from up here in Canada... )

I hope you can Help me?

Thanks alot in advance and I'm waiting for your reply!!!!


TTYL All


Marc "The Athletic Frog" Gratton

    ( O )   ( O )
         o o
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      (_______)

AAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: ATHLETICS: Sydney Grand Prix results
From: bindi@ewd.dsto.gov.au (Bindi Harding)
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:04:03 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation, Salisbury, South Australia

Here's a round-up of the results from the Mobil Grand Prix athletics meet (also
called the Sugar Games) held in Sydney on Saturday night (I only have mostly
1st, 2nd and 3rd placegetters)..

MEN:

HAMMER THROW : (1) M Dwight (NAS) 62.68
               (2) J McDonald (TIS) 58.00
               (3) M Keane (NSW) 55.74

SHOT PUT :     (1) S Maxwell (TAS) 13.51
               (2) B Tennant (AIS) 13.16
               (3) G Newey (NSW) 12.58

POLE VAULT :   (1) S Arkell (AIS) 5.50
               (2) J Miller (WAIS) 5.45
               (3) A Steinhardt (SASI) 5.30

HIGH JUMP :    (1) T Forsyth (VIS-AIS) 2.30
               (2) G Dalton (Great Britain) 2.20
               (3) C Anderson (WAIS) 2.20
               (4) M Hawkey (VIS) 2.15

400m HURDLES : (1) N Ward (CU) 51.77
               (2) D Mission (NSW) 52.45
               (3) S Hasker (VIC) 52.46

1000m :        (1) G Stojanovic (NAS) 2.22.6
               (2) K Hanigan (TIS) 2.22.7
               (3) J White (TAS) 2.22.9

400m :         (1) D Clarke (NAS) 45.53
               (2) S Hollingsworth (AIS) 46.35
               (3) K Finn (CU) 46.37

110m HURDLES : (1) K Vander Kuyp (VIS) 13.83
               (2) D Hooper (QAS) 14.06
               (3) L Tao (CHI) 14.58

100m :         (1) D Marsh (AIS) 10.35
               (2) T Jackson (NAS) 10.38
               (3) R Mastone (WAIS) 10.53

WOMEN :

HAMMER THROW : (1) D-A Sosimenko (NAS) 52.02
               (2) K Walton (QAS) 47.44
               (3) M Randall (VIC) 44.86

1500m :        (1) N Robinson ((VIS) 4.19.52
               (2) K Stanton (AIS) 4.21.37
               (3) S Jamison (WA) 4.24.35

LONG JUMP :    (1) J Flemming (AIS) 6.13
               (2) L McPaul (AIS) 5.93
               (3) J Gyselhart (NSW) 5.87

TRIPLE JUMP :  (1) L Stapylton-Smith (NZ) 12.77
               (2) M Viduka (VIC) 12.25
               (3) K Stephanos (SASI) 11.71

SHOT PUT :     (1) D Costian (AIS) 15.93
               (2) B Serone (NAS) 14.84
               (3) K Standing (NSW) 13.97

800m :         (1) S Dawson (QAS) 2.05.29
               (2) M Collins (NSW) 2.05.97
               (3) G Luke (SA) 2.06.66

400m HURDLES : (1) R Poetschka (WAIS) 58.15
               (2) A Rainbird (QAS) 58.94
               (3) L Bruce (QAS) 59.06

200m :         (1) C Freeman (AIS) 22.62
               (2) M Gainsford (NAS) 23.23
               (3) K Hanigan (NAS) 23.49

DISCUS :       (1) D Costian (AIS) 64.24
               (2) F Johnston (NAS) 49.40
               (3) K Jones (QLD) 47.18

100m HURDLES : (1) J Flemming (AIS) 13.47
               (2) J Moyes (WAIS) 13.56
               (3) S Heagney (WAIS) 13.89


I hope that covers everything.  The next Grand Prix is in Canberra tonight 
(Monday), and there'll be more results soon from that meet.

Bindi
Newsgroups: aus.sport
Subject: NEW AUSTRALIAN RECORD
From: bindi@ewd.dsto.gov.au (Bindi Harding)
Date: 26 Jan 93 09:32:44 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation, Salisbury, South Australia

The Australian men's high jump record was broken once again by young Victorian
high jumper, Tim Forsyth, at the Sugar Games athletics meet last night in
Canberra.

Forsyth cleared 2.35 on his 3rd attempt, beating his previous record of 2.34m.
Does anybody know if this is also a Commonwealth record?
Newsgroups: aus.hi-fi
Subject: Re: Wanted : program to calculate speaker position
From: st_waldman@fencer.cis.dsto.gov.au
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:18:16 +1100
Distribution: aus
Organization: D.S.T.O. Aeronautical Research Laboratory

In article <1993Jan19.095314.17525@tpl68k0.tplrd.tpl.oz.au>, derbyc@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Derby Chang) writes:
> 
> In article <11661@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, spart@cs.uq.oz.au (Geoff Green) writes:
> |> Does anybody know of a public domain program (unix or dos) to 
> |> calculate the optimum position of speakers in a room? I already
> |> know of a commercial program called "The Listening Room" (TM), but
> |> am not aware of anything free.
> |> 
> |> Geoff Green (spart@cs.uq.oz.au)
> |> 
> 
> And does anyone have experience with `The Listening Room'?  It would seem
> to me that the program would require an enormous amount of data (what socks
> do you wear when you listen to your stereo) before something accurate pops
> out the other end.  $200 sounds rather expensive for a program you would use
> only very occasionally.
> 
> Derby

The price of "The Listening Room" is about $45. If you want to learn more
about speaker placement, you might like to check out old issues of the
Journal of the Audio Engineering Society. They had an article or two that
presented formulae for computing the effects of room boundaries on
speaker response.

Witold
witold@hotblk.aed.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
Subject: cordless cycle computers
From: warnerj@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 26 Jan 93 11:59:11 GMT

I am told by a person more expert than myself that "cordless" cycle computers
can and do "interfere" with each other if used on cycles travelling in close
proximity.

It is suggested that they are also subject to spurious radiations from power
lines etc.

Can anyone out there in netland verify this on the basis of experience or
expertise? Reward = my profound gratitude.

thanks
john warner :: inst education :: university of melbourne 

Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: malcolm@cs.su.oz.au (Malcolm Bjorn Gillies)
Subject: Re: Insurance
Reply-To: malcolm@cs.su.oz.au (Malcolm Bjorn Gillies)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:42:16 GMT

In article <angus.727402783@godzilla.cgl.citri.edu.au> angus@cgl.citri.edu.au (angus y montgomery) writes:
>well, membership in Bike Victoria gets you automatic 3rd party insurance
>in case you run over someone in a Merc...
>--
>angus@cgl.citri.edu.au

The GIO in NSW will cover a bicycle with a modified motor vehicle policy,
which covers both theft and accident. The premium is roughly 10% of the
replacement cost of the bicycle per year.

It's been good value for me. In three years of insurance I've paid about $270
of premiums and had about $500 worth of repairs. Then again, maybe I'm
accident prone ;-)

Malcolm
--
Curse you yogurt! You have brought me to a condition where only death
offers solace! A solace that is denied.
Xref: sparky aus.bicycle:612 rec.bicycles.tech:3423
From: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee)
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle,rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Bull horns vs drop bars
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:51:18 GMT
Reply-To: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au
Followup-To: aus.bicycle

I have a Cannondale R700 with bull horns rather than dropbars.  I
was wondering if I was to change the bull horns for dropbars
would necessary get better handling ?
--
Anthony Lee (Time Lord Doctor) (These are my opinions !)
email: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au	voice:+(61)-7-3651204 FAX:+(61)-7-3651999
SNAIL: Department Computer Science, The University of Queensland, 
       St Lucia, Qld 4072, Australia
From: brister@decwrl.dec.com (James Brister)
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
Subject: Re: cordless cycle computers
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:16:44
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: tirade.pa.dec.com
In-reply-to: warnerj@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au's message of 26 Jan 93 11:59:11 GMT

On 26 Jan 93 11:59:11 GMT, warnerj@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au said:

> I am told by a person more expert than myself that "cordless" cycle computers
> can and do "interfere" with each other if used on cycles travelling in close
> proximity.

> It is suggested that they are also subject to spurious radiations from power
> lines etc.

> Can anyone out there in netland verify this on the basis of experience or
> expertise? Reward = my profound gratitude.

My Ciclomaster IIA has a cordless heart monitor attachment which picks up a
lot of interferrence from high power lines that makes my "heart rate" go up to
about 220.

James
--
James Brister                                           brister@wsl.pa.dec.com
DEC Western Software Lab., Palo Alto, CA                        decwrl!brister
From: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee)
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
Subject: Re: cordless cycle computers
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:41:37 GMT
Reply-To: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1993Jan26.115911.1@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au> warnerj@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au writes:

:I am told by a person more expert than myself that "cordless" cycle computers
:can and do "interfere" with each other if used on cycles travelling in close
:proximity.

:It is suggested that they are also subject to spurious radiations from power
:lines etc.

:Can anyone out there in netland verify this on the basis of experience or
:expertise? Reward = my profound gratitude.

I haven't actually have a radiation meter, all I know is that
everytime I cycled under a power line then my max speed jumps to
115kph.  I haven't seen any police car try to give me a speeding
ticket yet :-) but I don't really think that I could be doing 115
:-).   
--
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email: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au	voice:+(61)-7-3651204 FAX:+(61)-7-3651999
SNAIL: Department Computer Science, The University of Queensland, 
       St Lucia, Qld 4072, Australia
From: rsv@gdwb.oz.au (Roger Virgo)
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
Subject: Re: Ride to ballarat or geelong
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:33:21 GMT

s893971@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Adrian Ugoni) writes:

>Hya..
>I am considering riding from my home in St. albans Melb. to Ballarat
>and also later on, from home to Geelong.

>Does anyone know what routes I should take since the only ways of going
>to Ballarat and geelong from here are via the freeways..Riding on which is
>not permitted (as far as I know)

>BTW...St.Albans is right near Ballarat rd (Western Highway)

>Adrian

Adrian,

The freeway between Melb & Geelong does have a bike lane for the whole distance.

An alternate route would be to ride to Werribee via the backroads and then to	Geelong via Little River, Lara, and Corio. There is also a cycle batch between
Lara and Geelong.

Hope the above helps

Roger and out.
From: pgharr@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:47 EST
Subject: Re: bike shorts
Nf-ID: #R:9300307.2840@mulga.cs.mu.oz.au:-739882473:peg:490100027:000:367
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!pgharr    Jan 22 23:47:00 1993


try out the ones with the polpropylene liners.  These are vry long lasting and in the hot areas of Austrrlia absorb more moisture.  Performance in the US sell 
a good line by mail order for about 25AU dollars.  Whatever you do ......
knicks are INFINITIIILY BETTER than shorts....no more torn hairs.  They also protect more of the leg when you crash.

Peter Harrison

Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: mpulver@research.canon.oz.au (Mark Pulver)
Subject: Re: Insurance
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:55:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.042012.21604@cs.su.oz.au> gregr@cs.su.oz.au  (Greg Ryan, g10b, xtn 4809) writes:
>In article <angus.727402783@godzilla.cgl.citri.edu.au>, angus@cgl.citri.edu.au (angus y montgomery) writes:
>> well, membership in Bike Victoria gets you automatic 3rd party insurance
>> in case you run over someone in a Merc...
>
>Is there anything equivalent for NSW cyclists?
BINSW  (Bicycle Institute of NSW)
Bicycle House, 82 Campbell St, Surry Hills
212-5628


-- 
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Newsgroups: aus.bicycle
From: dnyman@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au (David Nyman)
Subject: Eleventh National Penny Farthing Championships - Evandale
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 02:11:26 GMT


Herewith the latest media release for the eleventh Evandale Village Fair
and National Penny Farthing Championships.

Dave.
-------
20th January, 1993.

MEDIA RELEASE

Penny farthing riders from throughout Australia and the world will again
converge on Evandale to indulge their passion for high wheeled cycling in
the National Penny Farthing Championships.  The event is the feature of
the eleventh Evandale Village Fair, to be held in the streets of Evandale
on 20th February, 1993.

Conventional traffic will give way to penny farthing bicycles, creating a
carnival atmosphere against the backdrop of Evandale's historic
streetscapes.

A variety of penny farthing races will be held throughout the day,
culminating in the main event, the National Championships, which will this
year be sponsored by the Devon Hills Park Estate.  The current champion,
Doug Pinkerton of Birming- ham, U.K., has indicated that he will not be
defending his title this year, leaving the championship wide open.
Several new riders will be attending as part of the strong New South Wales
contingent, but they will be challenged by the local Evan- dale team who
have been in training for the event.

For the first time in the history of Penny Farthing races at Evandale we
will have amongst the competitors three generations of the one family.
Paul Danellutti, aged 16, will compete in the junior championship; Paul's
father, Agostino (commonly known as Ferrari) will ride in the open
competition; and grandfather Roger, aged 72, will be attending for the
first time to take part in the veterans.

Three penny farthing enthusiasts will travel from America.  Regular
visitors Nolan Bay and Jack Castor will this year be joined by Bob
Balcomb, the 1993 Com- mander of The Wheelman, an America wide cycling
organisation with thousands of members dedicated to the preservation of
bicycle history.

For further information, contact Di Sullivan, phone (003) 918223.
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