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From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Subject: What I ride  was Re: outstanding MC parking 
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:41:09 GMT

In article <17jki7INNdh4@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
>
>I'm curious about what people ride when riding is the only choice.
>So, if you don't own a car, tell us what you ride.
>
>(I'd almost, but not quite, be willing to bet that BMWs make up a very
>large percentage of this list.)

I don't currently own a car, sold it two months ago so that my wife 
and I could buy a house.

On most days I ride my Ducati 907 IE to work/play/run errands.

On days where it is guaranteed to be shitty (I wake up in the morning
and it is pouring), or just occasionally to give it some exercise,
I ride my Yamaha SRX250.

I'm getting a free car froma friend this week that I'm going to fix up
for those days in the winter where ice and snow are factors.  I'll
probably sell the SRX once I get the car running.  The money saved on
insurance and stuff will hopefully go for some kind of BMW or Ducati
fixer-upper in the future...

No BMWs here (yet anyway)...

Steve


-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com (BlackJack)
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Reply-To: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:27:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.133747.4949@pica.army.mil>, tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:
> ben@spider.wri.com (Ben Cox) writes:
> >I'll give you a SMALL clue here:
> >
> >   I am not the KotL.
> 
> Me either.
> 
> There. That's two down...

Hey! Don't look at me!!

"Black"Jack Reed        DoD 499|The reasonable man adapts himself to the world;
GS750E     KotNew   303/5810207|the unreasonable one persists in trying to 
Bolder,    Colarada,    Amerika|adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com|progress depends on the unreasonable man. - GBS
From: TJM@MATH.AMS.ORG (Tom Maloney)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Riding Two on a CBR600F2
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:31:57 GMT

msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael S. Bogdanski) writes:
>Recently, I've carried a passenger on my '92 CBR600F2.  It seemed like a
>great idea until my crotch was smashed up against the gas tank while
>slowing and my privates were smashed, causing quite a bit of discomfort. 
>Also, I found that there was a tremendous extra load put on my arms while
>slowing down due to the increased weight from behind.  I weigh about 175lb
>and my passenger about 110lb.  Has anyone figured out a method for
>minimizing/eliminating these uncomfortable and painful encounters while
>carrying a passenger?

If you've been monitoring this list for a while, you'd know that
the DoD approved method for carrying a passenger of the
appropriate gender is to have her/him/it sit in _front_ of you
facing backwards. Provides a fine buffer betwixt privates and
gas tank during rapid deceleration (try several hard stops in
quick succession to verify this for yourself). You can expound
on the etymology of "petcock" while riding face-to-face, as
well.

Since you have a CBR600 I can say: Good things happen on a
Honda!

Remember to wear a helmet and take care not to ride erratically
while perfecting this technique, especially in Nevada.

Tom Maloney/tjm@math.ams.org/American Math Society Providence, RI/401.455.4020
           DoD #614 / 1980 Kawasaki KZ440B / KoTDoD (Dumpy old Dual)

     "Brakes just slow you down and increase your lap times dramatically."
                                                      - Stefan Fielding-Isaacs
From: Alan.Nunn@f526.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Alan Nunn)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Huh? Wierd electrical problem
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 20:17:02 +1000

 > I didn't even know Lucas was for sale.

 G'day Jonathan, A few decades back wfe

 * Origin: God is REAL unless declared as an INTEGER (3:635/526)
From: rss@gooey.eng-sun (Rich Scire)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Renting Motorcycles in Florida
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:58:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1992Aug27.205853.20569
Reply-To: rss@gooey.eng-sun
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


---

Hi,

I will be going to Florida (Orlando area) next month and was wondering if anyone could 
suggest a place to rent motorcycles.

Thanks,
Rich

---

Rich Scire   DoD #1341            Cadre Technologies
E-Mail:  rss@cadre.com            222 Richmond St., Providence RI  02903
Phone:  (401) 351-5950            FAX: (401) 351-7380
From: druth@erg.sri.com (Doug Ruth)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Parabellum Windscreen for BMW R100GS/PD
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:25:54 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Originator: druth@boa.erg.sri.com

I recall seeing a post, within the last two weeks, from someone
who had recently installed a Parabellum windscreen on a BMW R100GS.
I don't know if it was a Paris-Dakar or not.  I seem to recall
he said it was the medium size and that it was too tall.

If that person reads this message, I'd appreciate it if you would
reply.  What are your impressions of it?  Was it too tall because of
where the wind hit you or because of having to look thru the screen?
How much shorter is the next smaller size, and the next larger?  

I'm thinking of putting one on my '91 R100GS/PD.  My height is 6 feet.
Do you have Parabellums address or phone #.

Thanks in advance.


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-- Doug Ruth         | druth@erg.sri.com  | SRI International
-- '91 BMW R100GS/PD | Work:(415)859-3860 | 333 Ravenswood Ave.
-- AMA #: 197665     | Home:(415)962-9808 | Menlo Park, CA 94025
-- 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mdc2@pyuxe.uucp (25493-corrado)
Subject: Re: New Toy!!!
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:47:20 GMT
Summary: Yeah, I got one too...

In article <BD.92Aug26131549@fluent.UUCP>, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
> 
> zyang@danskin.berkeley.edu (ZIJIANG YANG) writes:
> 
> >Hi there, I have just got a new toy, 89 Kawasaki EX500.
> >Does anyone have the same bike? Any comments on this bike, good or bad?
> >How much would be a fair price for this bike?

Picked up an EX500 from a friend who stepped up to a ZX-7.  Comments? I think
I shoulda' stayed with my '81 GpZ550.  My 500 likes to move out, but is not to
keen on stopping; I do wish it had a stronger rear-brake.  That's my only major
peeve.  In the inconvenient category: the side-stand.  It has too small a foot
print, and keeps the bike almost vertical (read unstable).  It's also in a
difficult location.  I might also suggest keeping a full tank when highway
riding in a wind.  The extra weight really helps to stabilize the bike.

On the plus side, there is one helluva' wide power band.  Unlike my old GpZ,
there is no need to constantly change gears when accelerating or braking.
Like I said, this thing loves to move out.  And is highly maneuverable...
on a road that parallels the Delaware River (31 or 61...I dunno') on the
way to New Hope, Penn., I found myself moving at 50-60 mph on a winding 
road simply because the bike could handle it and I wasn't paying attention
to the speedo...the first near 90 degree turn woke me up fast, though.
Furthermore, I'm not a real sport-bike fan, but this one suits me.  I like
to ride fairly vertical.  The seat is big enough, and the pegs placed well
enough, so that I can shift my position on long rides.  I've also heard from
a couple of passengers that it's very comfortable.

As for price:  John paid $3300 new in '90; he gave it to me for $2200 which
I would guess is kinda' low, but he wanted me to get new tires ( he feels
that the stock set is way too narrow).  

Anyway, for the money, I'd have to say the EX500 is a sharp-looking rocket
at a very affordable price.

               '\                          Mitch Corrado
                _\______           Bell Communications Research
               /   DEC  \======== mdc2@panther.tnds.bellcore.com
          ____|___WRECK__\_____            (908)699-4128
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Riding Two on a CBR600F2
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 14:08:14 GMT

In article <25815@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
>In article <msbogd-270892145137@enterprise.lerc.nasa.gov>
>msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael S. Bogdanski) writes:
>>Recently, I've carried a passenger on my '92 CBR600F2.  It seemed like a
>>great idea until my crotch was smashed up against the gas tank while
>>slowing and my privates were smashed, causing quite a bit of discomfort. 
>>Also, I found that there was a tremendous extra load put on my arms while
>>slowing down due to the increased weight from behind.  I weigh about 175lb
>>and my passenger about 110lb.  Has anyone figured out a method for
>>minimizing/eliminating these uncomfortable and painful encounters while
>>carrying a passenger?
>
>	That's the problem with carying passengers on those sports bikes, which are
>not really made for that (my Hawk GT fits in that category). 

My RZ350 has an excuse for a passenger seat. The pegs are really high,
the seat is really thin, and the bike is really light so the effect of
carrying passengers is huge.

I weigh about 60 kg and my boyfriend has about 80 kg (get your 
calculators out, hahahaha). We'eve been riding together for a long time 
and neither of us has any problems taking the other as a passenger. If he's 
on the back of the RZ, I feel that the bike is heavy, the suspension is 
squishy and the braking is worse, but that's it. No helmet knocking, no 
squishing me against the tank. I'm not worried about scaring him, so I
ride as if I were by myself, with extra precautions due to the extra mass.

One of the guys here at work (~ same size as me) is a terrible passenger.
He slides all over the place, even though he's holding on tight, and he's 
put a lot of passenger helmet paint on the back of my helmet.

There are some people who just don't understand that motorcycles don't 
usually eject back seat passengers (not when I'm taking inexperienced 
passengers, anyway), so they should not be crammed up against the driver. 
Passengers should be able to hold on lightly and use foot pressure against 
the pegs to keep themselves put. This is harder on sportbikes, but it's 
possible, it just takes practise, and the passenger's trust.

>	The quality of the pillon can make a _huge_ difference, and it is your task to
>educate your passenger. You can allways feel if the passenger is stressed and
>affraid or not.

...Even if they refuse to admit it. It's those ones that never loosen up and 
get the hang of it. (Knock! Hey, lean back, relax! (I am!) No you're not,
I can feel your breath on my neck... shift, squeeze, knock!...)

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: FJ owners
Keywords: FJ
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 15:45:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.143623.23527@informix.com> dboyd@informix.com writes:
>
>
>Saw this in the latest Rider magazine:
>
>Yamaha FJ owners will be interested to know that a FJ1100/1200 owners club is  
>now forming. For more information send a stamped, self-addressed envelope to:
>
>Deni Boyer
>P.O. Box 535
>Fairlawn, NJ 07410
>
>Diana

Thanks for the reminder.  I sent in my SASE about 6-8 weeks ago when this
notice first hit the nets.  Haven't heard anything yet.

Ride Free,

Bill
>
>DIANA BOYD	"Walking with the spirit, talking with the spine
________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Subject: Re: BMW K100LT crash
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 02:42:04 GMT

rmcgurk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Richard J McGurk) says:
> 
> On 15 June 1992 I had an accident on my BMW K100LT.  It was just over a year 
> old and had 19200 miles on it with no previous problems.
> At 50 mph on a straight and level section of Ohio rte 555 I lost control of the
> front wheel and the bike went off the road.  I was thrown off and suffered a 
> few injuries.

What was the condition of the tires? How were they inflated (and how long
ago did you check?)? When was the last time you had the steering head
checked/adjusted? The fork oil changed? The wheels removed? The wheel
bolts/triple clamps/fork brace tightness checked?

How did you loose control - slow weave, fast weave, tank slapper, steering
went to full lock and stayed there? Wheels locked up? Were you accelerating,
braking, or maintaining a constant speed?

If you still have access to the remains of the bike, I'd at least check
the tire condition and pressures, and as many of the wheel/swingarm/steering
bearings that still turn.

....paul

-- 
Paul Spencer                 Silicon Graphics Advanced Graphics Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: test
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:29:43 GMT

laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:

snicker... Oh boy, as soon as I saw the subject, I knew there would be
some fun... ;{>

>no helmet laws in colorado.........maybe we should get one
>so that all these californications would stop moving here

Absolutely! Motorcycling is extriemely dangerous, and anyone
participating in such a dangerous activity should take  appropriate
precautions, wearing a full face helmet should be the minimum
requirement. I suggest that full leathers, steel toed/shanked boots
and gauntlet gloves made of at least 2oz. leather be additional
requirements. These requirements should be accompanied by a lengthy
traffic safety course and tiered licensing to protect the masses from
themselves.

In addition, I have noticed that walking along the roadway on narrow
bridges can be very dangerous too. You could get bonked on the head by
a passing RV mirror. To protect the masses from this hazard,
pedestrians walking on narrow bridges should be required to wear those
half helmets. It's for their own good.

Thanks Laz, I was bored...

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From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:19:26 PDT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <1992Aug28.191536.3869@microunity.com>, ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.232226.385@halfdome.sf.ca.us> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>>In article <16110202@hpsad.sad.hp.com>, frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball) writes:

>>even if you're tiny, 125cc won't be doing you any favors.  the frame
>>will be just as large as if you had more power
> Really?  Which bike(s) are you talking about?  All the streetable
> 125s I can think of are significantly smaller and lighter than
> the streetable 250s I know of.  Did you have a specific make and
> model in mind?

go ahead.  name a bike that has a measurably shorter frame hgt (say at
least an inch shorter) in the 125cc version than in the 250cc version.
4-stroke. 

> I've ridden 125s (gutless cb125s at that) and
> found the power to be ok, up to 35-40 mph.  Certainly enough to
> keep up with city traffic.   

well, this is where our opinions differ. i don't think "keeping up"
is the issue.  for me it's having enough power to get out of the
way, as well as having a large enough engine to where it doesn't
rattle you to death every time you break 30mph.

> The original poster lives in the SF bay area, if I'm not mistaken....

so do i.  even MORE reason to get something bigger than 125cc.  the
hills here are not a joke.  i ride an r100gs, and i do not wish for
something smaller. 

> I'd recommend that a newbie rider refrain from carrying
> passengers until he/she has accumulated some experience.

i disagree that riding with a passenger ought to be put off.  what?
you're not competent to ride?  then you ought not to be riding. if
you're competent to operate a motorcycle, and you're willing to assume
the added responsibility for someone else's safety, then you're
competent to ride with a passenger.  yes, it's different with a
passenger; it's something you have to adjust to, and carefully.  but
you can't do that until you actually RIDE with a passenger, and it's
just as different whether you wait 2 weeks or 2 years.

although i only kept my first (250cc) bike about 5 months, i still got
plenty of riding with a passenger; i had a kid and no other means of
transportation. i probably would have kept the bike longer had i
bought something bigger to begin with.  it simply wasn't big enough
for 2 people to ride on for very long at a time. 
 
-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Carrying bicycle on a motorcycle
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:02:56 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <JET.92Aug31144058@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>'bout to lose my mind again and buy a bicycle.  The question is: has
>anybody seen/thought about a bike rack for a motorcycle?  Sue Christ
>(sp?) said she put her mountain bike on the back of her CM400.  I've
>got a bit more room on the back of the R100R :-), plus I've got
>luggage that it could be strapped to/around.
>
>The first step for me is to go to a bike shop and ask about small
>"universal" bike racks and see what they come up with.
I've had no trouble mounting a regular mountain bike on the back of
my PD.  I'm sure there is a scanned photo around somewhere.  :-)

(I just knew that this topic would come up someday.  teeheehee)

Ride Free, but peddle like hell,

Bill
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scatlin@bnr.ca (Steve Carlson P020)
Subject: Re: Speaking of triple A....
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 20:42:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.192431.13149@worldbank.org>, aki <aki> writes:
|> 
|> Just curious...if you are a AAA member and your
|> bike dies, will they provide tow service? I mean
|> will they bring a tow truck out (the flatbed type)
|> and pick up your bike?  How about dead batteries?
|> Will they come and jump start your bike for you?
|> Strange question but I'm wondering if anyone
|> has had any experience with this since I've never
|> heard of a similiar service for motorcycles....
|> and heaven forbid, will they come out if you
|> lock your keys in your bike? ;-) ....
|> 
|> 
|> 

        When I was living Durham, NC a couple of years ago, I got a
AAA membership that entitled me to service should my bike break down
or whatnot.  A few months later I wrecked my bike (sniff!) and needed
a tow to the bike shop.  I called the AAA 1-800 number and was told
that motorcycles were not covered by AAA.  After 30 - 45 minutes of
being shuffled from Supervisor to Supervisor and a lot of explaining
and complaining on my part, they gave in and came out to tow me.

        My advice...  AAA memberships are generally good, but be sure
to question the representative who sells you the membership thoroughly
before signing up.

        Oh yeah...  I have found that AAA member services and their
quality vary widely from state to state.

                                Scot
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From: jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Do factory tinted shields have UV protection?
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:46:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsj.1992Aug28.174654.28752
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <klp.714255103@kmpec> klp@doe.carleton.ca (Ka Lun Pang) writes:
>A few months ago I got my new Shoei X8 which comes with the tinted shield.
>All of a sudden I started to wonder what kind of damage can that do to my
>eyes if the shield is not uv proof. All my sunglasses failed to stick inside
>the helmet without giving me a headache.
>
>Anyone knows if the shields are uv proof in the first place? 
>
This doesn't answer your question about Shoei's but...
Here (at Holmdel Bell Labs) they had this little thing you could test your
sunglasses for UV protection with.  I happened to go to medical one afternoon
wilst carrying my Arai helmet.  I stuck the shield under the light and it 
showed the highest level of UV protection (over 90% protection I believe). 
This was the DARK shield. Arai puts out at least two tints.  This is the
darker one.  

Jim Bessette
From: John_Greer@mindlink.bc.ca (John Greer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Jason's PIT CREW(TWINS)
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:58:05 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I wish to thank all who mailed me congrats on the arrival of the twins.
I downloaded them all and took them to the hospital so Tina could read them.
After reading them she wished me to convey the following

     It was nice to hear from
     all the netters from arround
     the world.
     Thanks for the well wishes.

        Tina and the Twins.

A question was brought up br R. Collins about a vote for
    REC.MOTO.TWINS
are their any takers??:-))

And again THANKS for well wishes.:-))


--
John Greer@mindlink.bc.can
85-FJ 1100
DoD #0260             A.I.M. #001078530
Jason Greer DoD #0260.5