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From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:14:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Aug14.151714.8459@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>
> 
>Your Majesty:
>
[stuff deleted]
>
>that you
>
>(1) formally apologize to China for the war crimes committed
>    by Japan, including the establishment of wartime-brothels,
>(2) begin a thorough review of Japan's school textbooks to
>    ensure that the coverage of the Sino-Japanese war is presented
>    in a truthful way,
>(3) visit the site of the Rape of Nanking and pay respect to the
>    victims, and
>(4) discuss appropriate compensation for Japan's war crimes in
>    China.
>
>We sincerely urge Your Majesty to lead your country to examine,
>acknowledge, and compensate for Japan's war crimes.  This not only
>will help repair the broken friendship between Japan and her
>neighbors, but also will serve as a reminder to the Japanese people
>and potential aggressors in this world of the horrors of war.
>Unless these positive actions are taken to show Japan's sincere
>remorse for the inhumane suffering inflicted upon her neighbors
>during the invasions, and to demonstrate a genuine commitment
>to prevent future aggression, Japan will never be truly regarded as
>a respectable power by nations around the world.
>
>
>The undersigned are organizations or individuals around the world:
>
>New Jersey Hong Kong Network

	He would do (1) and (3) I think.  But I'm sorry to say he would not
	or he CANNOT do (2) and (4) because he has NO political power or 
	leader ship any more, and actually, he himself has never had one before.	
 	I myself agree with your opinion about revising our history text books.
	ANY history book in ANY country should look at and present its histoy, 
	what their ancestors did to other countries and to the people of their 
	own country, as objectively as possible.

	I hope and wish that the Japanese government will initiate these 
	actions by themselves not because they are blamed and told to do so by
	any other country.  Well, if they can do so ONLY after being blamed, 
	it's just a shame...

							Tetsuya Nishimura
From: dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Why should we demand the "Japs" say SORRY to China?
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:21:04 EDT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University


	If the "Japs" say sorry, would you be happy?

	If the Chinese government refuse to accept the "war criminal"'s 
donation, would you be happy?  

	Maybe you'd be happy, but what would you gain?  Nothing.  You are
still a "poor stick" guy. 

	Why does Japan do well?  It doesn't demand the US to say sorry for
the nuclear bombing each and every time an US president visits.  It doesn't
refuse the US "war criminals" to donate money for their postwar reconstruction.

	Chairman Mao was the one who refuse and demand for almost 30 years
after the war.  Then he probably realized that it was stupid.  But there are
still stupid guys 50 years after the war.

dhsy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
From: lpzhou@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for Mao Xiaoping ect.
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:08:46 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

Hi, I have been looking for the following of my friends.


Chen Aimian (Uni. of Alberta)
Li Daqing (Chalmers Uni. of Technology, Sweden)
Li Lei (Leuven, Belgium)
Mao Xiaoping (NY)
Song Jianfeng (W. Virginia Uni.)
Weng Naidong (Formerly Belbium)
Yang Guolin (Corolado)
Zeng Yuming (Alberta)
Zhang Zhili (Uni. of Massachusetts)

Would any of the above mentioned  my friends or any one knows them please send 
me a message about where they are. I would like to contact them.

Many thanks in advance.

Zhou Liping
Dept. of Geography and Environmental Science,
Monash University, Clayton, Victoria 3168, Australia
From: llee@rcsuna.gmr.com (Lu Lee )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Need help in Wash. DC around GWU area.
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:12:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GM Research Labs, Warren, MI

A male chinese graduate student is starting his graduate studies at
George Washington University this fall.  He will arrive DC around
Aug. 23.  If you have any information about housing around GWU area,
please let me know.  Thank you in advance.


Lu Lee
yi@engin.umich.edu
 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.china
From: bbs@medsys.rn.com (Public BBS System)
Subject: Re: Yi(one) Dang(Party) Si(private) Li(profit)
Reply-To: bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System)
Organization: Med-Systems, Kingsport, Tennessee
Date: 16 Aug 1992 12:56:01 GMT

In article <9208121407.AA13907@einstein.physics.buffalo.edu> xiaofei@einstein.physics.buffalo.edu (XiaoFei Wang) writes:
>[ Shannon's ugly characters deleted ]
>
>Since someone has complained about Shannon's handwriting, 
>I will show him how to write _mao2bi3 zi4_ and hope he can be
>taught ( ru3zi3 ke3 jiao4 ). 
>

You really need to give Shannon a lesson.

Chou1

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zliu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Zhong Liu)
Subject: Australia Satellite Successfully Launched
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:24:54 GMT

From CBS this morning, China has successfully launched the Australian
satellite.

Z. Liu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: psmith@nyx.cs.du.edu (paul smith)
Subject: test
Keywords: sorry
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 04:21:22 GMT


sorry, this is a test. please ignore.
Z
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: txt15@po.CWRU.Edu (Tao Tao)
Subject: HXWZ lastest issue needed...
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 20:23:30 GMT


Could some kind soul in the net forward me the latest issue of HXWZ in its
uuencoded form?  For some reason, I did not receive it.

TIA for your help.

Tao
From: csjgt@MANTA.JCU.EDU.AU (Jin-Guang Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: no subject (file transmission)
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:03:33 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: FWD: **************************
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 01:55:25 GMT

>1978 Sino-Vietname hostility.  250,000 Vietnamese Chinese repatriated to China

This is the prelude of the 1979 war, in which the nationalism surely had
 
played an important role with other reasons. I don't think China had done the

same kind of terrible thing to Chinese Vietnamese in that period. It was really 

hard for many chineses in some Asian countries, as minorities, to identify 

completely themselve as their citizens, while they had to cope with the hostile 

environments. When many chinese had to leave their country Malaysia, it was Mao 

that sent ships to take them to China. I don't know how Malaysian Chinese think 

about this event today, even though many of them might think high of Mao at the 

time. 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen)
Subject: Re: Winner, Bush or Clinton?  Which is better for China?
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:32:46 GMT

In article <21AUG199215171334@rigel.tamu.edu>, y0z8374@rigel.tamu.edu (ZHANG, YUEMIN) writes:
|> In article <BtCn5H.FKK@acsu.buffalo.edu>, xiaofei@acsu.buffalo.edu (XiaoFei Wang) writes...
|> >/* From the keyboard of ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen) */:
|> >:
|> >:At least fewer people will end up behind bars, because of their views. 
|> > 
|> >Please use 'less people' instead of 'fewer people'. 
|> >Use 'less' with something uncountable and 'few' something countable. 
|> >e.g. 'Fewer cars, less trafic'. 
|> > 
|> >-- 
|> >xiaofei@acsu.buffalo.edu | Subscribe Chinese Poem Exchange and Discussion List 
|> >mail LISTSERV@UBVM.BITNET with "SUB CHPOEM-L 1st LastName" in the MESSAGE BODY
|> >InterNet Address: UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU | Posting in UUENCODED GB and BIG5
|> 
|> Mr. Xiaofei, 
|> I think you are wrong here. "People" is a countable word, so "few people" or 
|> "fewer people" is a correct. 
|> 
|> yz
I think so, too. Anyway, I don't think it is that much necessary to pick on 
somebody's writing, especially in this group. If xiaofei can not abide any typo, 
he/she believes, from me, please drop me a couple of lines into my personal 
account ylq@lems.brown.edu. It would be better to keep the discussion of 
English skills just between you and me. Hopefully, we can improve together. 

Cheers! no flame. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: FWD:  related to green-card lobby stuff
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:50:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.011338.24364@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> echeng@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Eddie Cheng) writes:
>
>forwarded for an anonymous netter:
>
>
>------------ cut here ---------------- cutr here --------------------
>
>
>Grapevine 8-7-1992
>
>Disclaimer: the Grapevine series offers unconfirmed rumors.  Reader
>            discretion is recommended.
>
>====================================================================
>
>A Chinese student in California claimed that she had sent the FBI a list
>of some opponents to the "Chinese Students Protection Act 1992", most
>of whom were Chinese students in the US, though there were also three
>Americans and one Canadian on the list.

Hope she can get a longer list, to enlarge the employment market for 
this country. This timid girl, if exists, must be really lovely, though 
impotent. 

>She also said that a copy of the list had been sent to the INS, so that
>"these CCP running dogs will never get the greencard".

Then she can get it sooner. Good stratergy.

>However, the "Chinese Student Protection Act 1992" will grant the
>permanent status to everyone covered, irregardless of the applicants'
>standing on the issue, according to a Congressional staff member who

"everyone" must get a job before she/he is granted. 

>wished to remain anonymous.
>=====================================================================
>I personally would prefer the anti-lobbyists: no real communist stooges
>will work against their own interests.  After all, this country needs
>more honest people, not the liars.

This was what I was told to be worried by two Americans. Yet this 
bill has received not much coverage, at least not to many Americans'
knowledge. It is many American people's turn to get listed on the 
"white-list." 

But to balance the trade deficit between the two countries, it is 
a good deal. :-)



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wang@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU
Subject: Re: how would a "Wheel of Fortune" game be played in Chinese?
Reply-To: wang@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:08:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.035917.13215@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:
>While a number of us of Bell Labs were eating overtime dinner watching
>the TV show "Wheel of Fortune" in our "Blue Flamingo Lounge" TV lab, I
>got to wondering if a Wheel of Fortune game could be done in Chinese.
>"Wheel of Fortune" is a string of words guessing game, you try to fill 
>in the blank letter spaces of the words of some English phrase.  And
>guess that phrase when you have enough of a clue from the filled in
>letters.  This game should work for any language with a small symbol
>set (i.e. alphabet, aka ASCII).  I think Korean also has a small
>symbol set.  It seems unlikely that this game could
>work in Chinese, as I've been told that there are something like 50K
>characters.  Or could one "spell" (construct) Chinese characters with
>a small set of "strokes", lines, or some such?  Have the game players
>guess what "strokes" are needed to make the characters to guess the
>phrase to win the game?

   You can use Pingying to play the game !
From: xyang@bcars279.UUCP (Sherry Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Could more light topics in China?
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:42:53 GMT
Reply-To: xyang@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Aug21.013542.2216@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, cqu@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Chang-ning Qu) writes:
|> 
|>       I found it is hard to enjoy many topics in this newsgroup. 
|> New school days coming, I doubt students still have enough 
|> time to read those long-talked and no-solutioned topics.
|>       Should we have more interesting, happy, light and new
|> topics instead of those of tragic, dark, sorrowed on China.

Being a Chinese (especially mainlanders) is hard, isn't?
Our lives are full of tragedy plus the burden inherited from
older generations. I notice that in soc.culture.hongkong the
popular topics are pop song singers, movie stars, etc. while
in scc are famines, cannibalism, blood cards... But that's our
life! and the life of the nation so far if you look at our
history! Being a Chinese means suffer and tragedy in some
extend. I believe most of us want to change our life 
to be a better, more enjoyable, 'light' pattern. Yeah, we like
our life filled by loving songs and seeing tragedy only 
in movies.

|> I guess we need more news-reports on today's China(any 
|> achievement on science or other areas, positive preferred,

Every progress or positive move in China today means overcome
of heavy payment for the past. Personally I prefer positive
attitude towards life. However, remembering what happened 
yesterday will make us better as today even it may add load
to our life.


-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan
From: sala8864@hgc.edu (gustavo salas)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Organization: The Hartford Graduate Center
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:17:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.33034.27688@ms.uky.edu> borders@ms.uky.edu (Johnny Borders) writes:
>rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Aug16.211822.5261@leland.Stanford.EDU> claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>
>
>Whilst Japan was the most powerful Navy ever to sail the Pacific. It's really

Hmmm.... I don't know where you got the idea that Japan was the most 
powerful Navy EVER to sail the Pacific, let me correct you, Mr. Choy.
Your statement may be true for the Japanese Navy after 19 century, but
do you know why they failed the invasion of Korea at 1592? Because their
Navy was defeated by Korean Navy so that they didn't have enough supplies
from thier island. Mongols failed to invade the Japan not because they
had great naval power to stop Mongols, but because they were just lucky
to have Typoon at that time. They call it the "Holly Wind" - Kamikaje.
From: 89p2820@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:54:40 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <1992Aug17.182318.14736@news.acns.nwu.edu>, usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
> In article <Aug.16.22.13.03.1992.5167@sol.rutgers.edu> lixj@sol.rutgers.edu  
> (Xiao-jian Li) writes:
>> [garbage deleted]
> I dodn't think Vietnam started the war. The reason why Vietnam was hit is because  
> Vietnam is weaker than China. So, do we need to give Vietnamese people an  
> apology to save their faces?
> 
> Carl

You are wrong! The war between Vietnam and China is totally a different issure.
That was caused by long time border dispute. There are lot of conflict before
hand and it is very hard to say who initiale the war. But Japan invaded China
without any excuse and reason which could be justifiable.

Yaming
From: tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Parents
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:07:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis / LLNL

In article <13AUG199210014244@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> fsbrn12@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Andrew Hsu) writes:
->In article <CMM.0.90.2.713575531.jamesou@zygote.hsc.usc.edu>, 
->jamesou@ZYGOTE.HSC.USC.EDU (James Ou) writes...
->> 
->>What?????  We raise kids because we love them, not because we
->>want them to pay us back later on.
->> 
->
->I'm not sure whom you are representing when you say "we". Have you ever
->heard of the old saying: "Yang3 er2 fang2 lao3"? Clearly, according to
->the Chinese tradition, "we" raise kids not only because "we" love them,
->but also because "we" want somebody to take care of us when "we" are old.

And for males, "we" have to raise kids (boys) in order to "Chuan2 Zong1
Jie1 Dai4". :-)  IMHO, I think this is a ridiculous tradition - why do
"we" need boys to "Chuan2 Zong1 Jie1 Dai4"?  What do you guys think?

Anyway, it's quite unrealistic to expect kids grown up in US to take
care of "us" when "we" are old.  The most "we" can expect is for them
to visit "us" then, but even that is too much to ask for sometimes...

--
Terry Cheung
tcheung@ramius.ocf.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: Lou4 Shi4 Ming2 ( Tang2 . Liu2 Yu3 Xi1 )
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:22:32 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

xm1@cec1.wustl.edu (Xingdong Ma) writes:

>Hi, folks!
>Please enjoy the famous "Lou4 Shi4 Ming2". I think most of us
>have already known this article.
>=========================================================

>                      Lou4 Shi4 Ming2
>  
>                       Tang2 .  Liu2 Yu3 Xi1

>    Shan1 bu4* zai4 gao1, you3 xian1 ze2 ming2;
>    Shui3 bu4 zai4 shen1, you3 long2 ze2 ling2.
>    Si1 shi4 lou4 shi4, wei2 wu2 de2 xin1.
>    Tai1 hen2 shang4 jie1 lu4**, cao3 se4 ru4 lian2 qing1.
>    Tan2 xiao4 you3 hong2 ru2, wang3 lai2 wu2 bo2*** ding1.
>    Ke3 yi3 tiao2 su4 qin2, yue4 jin1 jing1;
>    Wu2 si1 zhu2 zhi1 luan4 er3, wu2 an4 du2 zhi1 lao2 xing2.
>    Nan2 yang2 Zhu1 Ge3 lu2, xi1 shu3 Zi3 Yun2 ting2.
>    Kong3 Zi3 yun2 :" He2 lou4 zhi1 you3 ?"

>----------------------------------------------------------------
>*    bu4(no) is usually sounded as "bu2".
>**   I don't know how to write "green" in pinyin. 
		..
	       Lu

>***   bai2(white) is read as "bo2" in the ancient time.

>Sorry for the mistakes, and please correct me.
>---------------------------------------------------------------

BTW: When I read a book with English and Chinese, I would turn to read Chinese.
     When I read a book with English and pinyin, I would turn to read English.
    

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in China
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:16:42 GMT

Lin Can wrote:
>It seems that you can only say for a village, would there be enough people
<to represents 0.001% of Chinese population? The fact is cannibalism could and
<did occur in many occasions when man were starved. I would not say that

Yeah, it could and did when people were hopeless and mad, as Mark Twain
described. Chinese people have been very tolerable. They suffered a lot
in that famine, but even did not try to rebel.

<cannibalism during the big famine is definitely a lie, it might be

No, I only said the original is a lie. Please read it again.

<more difficult to believe that no cannibalism at all during such most
<adverse conditions.

Could you answer me why they did not rebel? To open government's gain barns
was much easier thing to do. "The story of criminal Li TongZhong" was a
truthful story by my own judgement.

I am really surprised by that so many young people think it is natural to
cannibal if one is hungry :-(  But maybe it is good for our young generation
to learn some aggressive, adventural characters.
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: (none)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 15 Aug 92 03:48:49 GMT

cehx@cc.newcastle.edu.au wrote:

+In article <1992Aug11.002449.24076@nic.umass.edu>, s6883289@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Peter Hawkins) writes:
+> 
+> hello, anyone know where is Scott Horne? I like to keep in touch with him.
+He has gone back to china to do some concrete work instead of void talking here
+as most of us doing. He once talked with me on the net about the topic of going
+back to china and serving our country, he said " I will well do that".
+> 

	Scott Horne is one of my best friends.  I feel obligated to clarify
	issues related to him.

	1) Neither does Scott Horne have Chinese blood nor does he have a
	   Chinese citizenship.  So for him, he does not need to "go back
	   to China".

	2) Some friends of his including Shannon suggested him posting less
	   articles to the net and keeping distance from those nasty/illogical
	   guys on SCC.  He has not post articles to the net for a while for
	   no reason but he is really busy.

	3) I think that Scott is in this country.  How could he leave right 
	   after his graduation?  He at least has to clean up his payment 
	   things--few people have that much cash to pay the expensive Yale 
	   tuition for years.  

	I am glad that there are people missing him on the net.

	shannon
	-------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen)
Subject: Re: Winner, Bush or Clinton?  Which is better for China?
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:55:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.215327.28921@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, cqu@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Chang-ning Qu) writes:
|> 
|>   
|>    Don't forget any American president will take the benefit of US as the 
|> first place while dealing with foreign affairs. So no matter Elephant or
|> Donkey as president today will definitely keep a good relationship with 
|> China. The reason is simple: China is a sub-superpower or one of superpower 
|> in the world. Bush knows it well and carry out a moderate policy to deal
|> with China. Good relationship is helpful to make China accept US idea and
|> corperate in the critical world affairs. Facts show that. China didn't
|> act against American actions on Iraq or Yugo(slavia) in United Nation. 
|> Meanwhile the reform in China gets supports from the States. From this
|> point, Bush is a very experienced and smart politician. But Clinton
|> seams too young(nen4). He will be pay a great price for recovery of the
|> Sino-US relationships if he,as president of USA, carried out what he said 
|> now. I guess as a governer he could be against China, as a president
|> he won't. He'll learn a lot and get mature.
|> 
|> cqu    


I remember back in 1980, China was worried about the Ron Regan and his pro-Taiwan 
policy, plus his determination of fighting communist. No doult of it, China 
wished the Carter could get second term. You know that Sino-US relation didn't 
get strained at all. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liu@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (Tim Liu)
Subject: Air ticket for sale
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Distribution: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:10:43 PDT



        One-Way Air Ticket for Sale:

        From:       Los Angeles
        To  :       Boston (non-stop flight) 
        Date:       Sept. 5, Saturday
        Price:      $120
        Airlines:   United 

If you are interested, send e-mail to: liu@astro.ucla.edu