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From: ns@csd.cri.dk (Nick Sandru)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.romanian,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Russian intervention in Moldova?
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:39:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Resources International A/S

mihai@sep.stanford.edu (Alexander Mihai Popovici) writes:

>In article <1992Aug22.100310.4000@enea.se>, sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:

[...]

>|> Talking about former Roumanin counties is only useful, if their
>|> borders coincide with present ones. The cities of Bolgrad and Ismail
>|> are in Ukraine today. I can't find Cahul, but I presume this is
>|> the town which is spelled "Kagul" on my map, which unfortunately
>|> favours Russian names for places in ex-USSR. Kagul is in Moldova,
>|> more exactly in the southernmost triangle, in which the Gaugaz has
>|> declared their state/autonomy. With Gagauzia I refer to this area,
>|> since it is some sort of a political reality, and probably requires 
>|> its solution.

>Erland, please don't try to rename all these regions that
>for hundreds of years were known under their Romanian names.
>The fact that you cannot find the names of the three Romanian
>counties on current maps is natural since the maps were redrawn
>in 1940.  Dont assume Ignorance is Power.
>Try something before 1940, or consult a history book.

Don't be too hard on Erland, please.

I don't think that there is any newly printed map or atlas, currently
available, with the Romanian place names for Moldavia and pre-1940
maps are quite hard to find today. The newest issue of the
Hallwag road atlas of Europe has still the Russian names. The Danish
press still uses "Kisjinev" (Danish spelling), "Bendery", "Kagul",
"Dnestr" etc. instead of Chisinau, Tighina, Cahul, Nistru... So that it
is normal for most non-Romanians in this group, not familiar with the
Romanian names, to use the more widespread Russian ones. I think that
it will take a while until the map editors will make the change to the
Romanian names for Moldavia.

Regarding the southern Bessarabia, in 1940 there were two districts there,
Chilia (the former Bolgrad and Ismail districts) and Cetatea Alba. Most of
Chilia (except for its western extremity) and Cetatea-Alba (without the
northern quarter) were annexed to Ukraine. The city Cetatea Alba is
situated in Ukraine (and has the name changed to Belgorod-Dnestrovskji).
The Cahul district is included in the present Moldavia.


>Cheers
>Mihai

Sa auzim numai de bine

Nick Sandru

aka Long Haired Nick

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From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Shame 'Mutlus' Of 'ghost.domain' Let's Call A Crook A Crook.
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:15:02 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:





><1992Aug25.104822.11114@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
>dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)

>>[In a vain attempt to salvage his friend's credibility]

>Omorning, this is exciting. First you discuss your 'porno' tastes

No, no - Cosar's porno tastes. Guess Ahmet's pics must have aroused you since   
you admit that it's exciting. Naughty boy!!

>your fantasies with 'Zap* the Criminal' of IBM, and now your choices of
>'crook entertainment.' Have you considered just turning on the 'Morning
>TV' and leaving those of us who aren't brain dead to continue this
>discussion?

Umm, this statement of yours is just about as brain dead as you can get. What
are you mumbling about now??

>>Don't sell yourself short Hasan.
>>There's only one loon howling on the wires, and he's at a ghost domain 
>>michigan.com.

>What a crook...Wanna hear some caroling?

No thanks. A 'cats choir' would be more attractive than your 'wire howling'


Dave

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From: bjorn.kvisli@thcave.no (Bjorn Kvisli) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: European language?
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:34:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Thunderball Cave BBS - Oslo, Norway  (47 2) 56 70 18
Reply-To: bjorn.kvisli@thcave.no (Bjorn Kvisli) 

 JD> Interesting point. What do you think will happen if you had to u
JD> more, if you were exposed for it in your daily life?            
JD> I have a feeling that the lower level of English understanding i
JD> etc. than in the scandinavian countries are not due to the educa
JD> that we are exposed to English every day, by TV for instance. Wh
JD> Could it be one explanation?                                    
JD>                                                                 


I think you have a point there. At least in Norway we have a
lot of American and British TV programs. They come with the
original sound and subtitles. This also applies to movies shown
in theatres.
Our language is spoken by few poeple (4.2 mio Norwegians). It is
very usefull for us to know a widely spoken language. By the way, I
am studying German now.
Bjorn
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From: pef@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Panayotis Fouliras)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,eunet.politics,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: The Aboriginal Government and other such
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:01:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <morten.715429855@oase> morten@oase.kemi.aau.dk (Morten Kjeldgaard) writes:

>I think the greek have to decide for themselves whether they want to become
>a european country, or remain a balkan one. This nationalist nonsense is
>going to far. One is more and more tempted to believe that the people of
>the balkans are complete lunatics.

>/Morten

>--
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>Langelandsgade 140, DK-8000 Aarhus C, Denmark
>Phone: +45 86 12 46 33 ~ +45 86 20 27 11 x6518 ~ Fax: +45 86 19 61 99

One man's meat is another man's poison.

BTW, as Danish clearly demonstrated by their referendum, we are
quite far from the concept of a "European country".

With all due respect

Panayotis
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From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: 'Mutlu' Thinks He's A Butcher Now
Date: 31 Aug 92 10:01:21 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.


Mutlu The Notorious Usenet Pornographer whines once more:


>>>'Omorning the Crook.' Even before the war began, in August 1914, the
>
>>Typical 'Mutlu the Pornographer'.
>
>If skill could be gained by watching, every crook would become a
>butcher, 'Mid-Morning Express.' Didn't you ever just look around
>a little?

Oh! You think you're a butcher now? Butcher of what?..Scholarly text perhaps?
Such as Rawlinson and Men are Like That maybe?

A butcher is a skilled craftsman but you, dear boy, are just a clown with an
editor.....and clowns are easily mimicked.

Now where were we?

/hasan.b.mutlu/hK

Ah yes! Putting you in the trash can where you belong.

Dave

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: berne@nova1.stanford.edu (Jean-Francois Berne)
Subject: Re: mutlu shit
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:21:28 GMT

Ralph Kutzner writes:
>I for one have had enough of this rubbish that mutlu posts.  This
>group has died ever since mutlu began his drivel.  Once this group
>had interesting topics and discussions but no longer.  I will
>join the ranks of the unsubscribed.
>
>Bye
>
>P.S.  Kill files are not the solution

I don't agree. I haven't read any hbm's post for weeks now, thanks to my KILL
file. Any time I want to read its trash I have to seek one of its post among
the junked posts. My kill file automatically junks its hate-mails,
and send them to its postmaster.
So I believe KILL files are a solution good enough. For me, at least.

JF

PS: Hasty busty Moron (aka David Irving/Robert Faurisson), tes follow-up ne
peuvent pas m'atteindre. Tu as un jour perdu ton honneur dans une fosse
septique. Pour moi, tu n'existes plus.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,eunet.politics,soc.culture.greek
From: efstse@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu
Subject: Re: The Aboriginal Government and other such
Originator: efstse@epsilon.eecs.nwu.edu
Organization: NU
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 14:18:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.111306.16799@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
>Michael Polymenakos (michael.polymenakos@factory.com) writes:
>> If it is just a name, why does the Government of Skopjie give it up? They
>> would have been recognised by the international community months ago had they
>> not been so stubborn.
>
>If I suggested that you should call Greece something else, would
>you even take that seriously?

Nope. No one would take you seriously. Likewise, when the Skopje puppet
governent suggests that Skopje be called `Macedonia' and the Bulgarians
in Skopje be called `Macedonians', how do do you expect the world to take
THAT seriously?  Tells us you, sophomore Erland: do the Albanians of Skopje
who correspond to about 35-40% of the population want to be called
`Macedonians'?  Of course not, and they have protested against that violently.
But of course, who would pay attention to 35-40% of the population,
especially in Skopje when its opportunistic government has it own
magelomaniac plans and of course is dictated by other `important' countries...
Well, that's international politics...

>-- 
>Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
>F|rst till kvarn f}r f|rst vankiva

Max.

P.S. sopho = wise, moro = babe => sophomore = wise-babe! Like... Erland! ;-)
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From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.romanian,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Romania or Roumania ?
Date: 23 Aug 92 02:28:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


>Which Gypsy people do you refer to?  I think that your statement is
>completely
>false when it comes down to Gypsy people that live in Romania in
>Russia.  Say

The same goes for Gypsies living in Greece; they use "Athiganos".
If it is of any importance, the word Gypsy comes from the word
"Egyptian".

m.
                                                                                                
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Subject: Re: The hypocrites
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:04:37 GMT

cza@troy.uucp (22141-akgun) writes:

>In article <Btt9w5.B54@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:
>>>>Not much more needs to be said.
>>
>>>Unfortunately yes.  How come those bastians of freedom
>>>and humanity can tell to Saddam "Don't fly or die" but
>>>not to Serbians "Don't shell or be shelled."
>>
>> Humanity also cannot tell to Turks: "Get your asses out of Cyprus".

>Are you kidding?  Turkish arm forces are the only reason
>why Cyprus was never turned out to be today's Bosnia.
>This is the only security that Turkish Cypriots have and
>alway will.  Like every Bosnians today, we all know how
>much UN provides when modern day massacres committed.

 I haven't seen so much hypocricy in my entire life.  You turn things
 upside-down; you present the black as being white.  

 Turkish forces in Cyprus are forces of occupation.  Turkish invaded
 Cyprus in order to divide the island into a Greek and a Turkish part.
 
 Turkey has been 'convicted' by the UN numerous times since 1974.
 Your opinion, that turkish military in Cyprus "is the only security 
 that Turkish Cypriots have and always will" shows the real intension
 of Turkey; which is to annex the northern part of Cyprus.

 Every dialogue to resolve this issue since 1974 has been destroyed
 by Turkey.  Turkey has altered the demografics of the population by
 moving hundreds of thousands of Turks from Turkey to Cyprus. Turkey's
 intensions become more clear day after day.

>>
>> Yet, the hypocrites Turks, can open their mouth when muslim lifes are
>> in steak. 
>>
>> The hypocrites in their best performance !!!
>>
>>>>	mark	
>>
>>>C. Akgun
>>
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>---> Panos Tamamidis
>>     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

>Based on what you utter above either you don't know the
>meaning of the word despite the Greek is your mother
>tongue or you gave up looking at mirrors lately.

>When you are going to rise above the level "name calling" crap,
>Panos?  Or, is it too much to expect from your intellectual
>level?  If it is, let this be my last reply to such crap.        

 What? The numerous convictions of Turkey from UN are also crap?
 On the one hand, Turkey is refusing since 1974 to comply with the
 UN decisions, and on the other hand you dare to call this thing crap?
 Do you know how many nations have voted against Turkey in the UN?
 All nations, with the exception of Pakistan. Do you thing all these
 people are stupid, and Turkey is the clever guy who always demands but
 never complies?

 Your logic Mr. Akgun, is either the logic of hypocricy, or the logic of
 paranoia. Or, it is both things. 

>C. Akgun


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     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: 'New Mutlus On The Block'.
Date: 1 Sep 92 10:05:05 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.


sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

><x#hnd_a.strnlght@netcom.com>
>strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)

>>Many have in e-mail to me. When I asked one why he didn't condemn
>>Mutlu publicly, he replied that Mutlu had threatened him and others,
>>and that many Turks are afraid of their immigration status.

>Before I respond to this pathological liar/racist puke, I thought
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>it should be exposed to the rest of the world. Now can you provide 
              ^^^^^^^                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>any proof for this moronic assertion? Besides, why should one believe 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>a self-admitted pathological liar? Remember, you have already proved 
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>yourself a true criminal. 
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>>Since Mutlu is on my kill list because of his behavior, I won't read
>>any responses he may make to this post, nor reply to them.

>You apparently think you can post blatant lies in public and not be
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>called to account. What a crook...
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Anyone care to hazard a guess who wrote this little diatribe??

Ho hum!!  /Serdar Argic/hK

[Long .signature ala Mutlu removed]

Dave

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: cfaks@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Alice Sanders)
Subject: making diplomas acceptable in 29 countries - help
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 22:25:57 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

I have been asked by an American who is a resident of Spain and living in
Spain now to help her find out about a process by which her university
degrees can be made acceptable in Spain.  She is applying for a university
teaching position where she has taught before on a teaching exchange
program.  They cannot hire her for the regular position without this
process.

All she has been told is that her diplomas must be 'notarized' by the
university where she studied or in that city and that they must then go
through a process carried out by th 'secretary of state'.

I assume that by 'notarized', they mean an official copy of the diploma
with the seal.  

Does anyone know if that is correct?

By the 'secretary of state', I assume they mean the documents must be
somehow processed in Washington , D.C.

Has anyone had any experience with this process?  She needs this before
October 1st.  ;-)  And we don't know exactly what we are doing.  She said
she was told that her diplomas would then be acceptable in 29 countries.

Thanks for any and all info!  

Alice

Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: A question on this Armenia stuff...
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:37:23 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <9208290933.A5125IO@anadolu.michigan.com> han@anadolu.michigan.com writes:

> <1992Aug28.183249.4010@menudo.uh.edu>
> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
> 
> >>No batteries? I would be interested in knowing the source of the above drivel.
> 
> >  More non-sensical statements.  
> 
> Take a nap every afternoon, then.

  Now we're back to the nap thing.  Unfortunately, I wrote this in the morning.

> >> >> Now when you have finished smoking
> >> >> I'd suggest you answer the points I've raised below.
> >> 
> 
> >  Why?  You never answer mine.  
> 
> You have been utterly humiliated on this point. I don't need to add
> anything here.

  Except maybe examples of the humiliation to prove your claim.  I don't feel
humiliated, though perhaps you should.

> >You are easily the worst dodger, liar and 
> >avoider of reality on the net.  Fortunately, you are also very, very poor at
> 
> Coming from a self-admitted liar, I'd take that as a compliment. Hmm, let 
> us see - shall we?

  Show me where I called myself a liar.  I want the EXACT quote, in context.

[loads of shit deleted]

> >it.  I like you, Hasan.  It's nice to be able to wreck an opponent without
> >having to think real hard (every now and then, anyway).
> 
> Is this the joke of the week? What a clown...
> Hasan B-) Mutlu

  'Fraid not.  What will you do with the displaced Armenians, and where do you
expect the government to get the $$ to pay your dead victims?  This is an un-
answered, avoided, and consistently deleted question.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
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From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: OMEDEI SUPPORTS MACEDONIA (So what?)
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 



ES>From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
ES>Well, judging from what one hears from Greece about bus tickets
ES>saying "Macedonia is Greek" etc, it seems like you are making
ES>the effort anyway.

    Sure. And if you read my posting in S.C.GREEK you will realise that
    what is going on in Greece right now is very similar to what would
    happen in every country in the world under similar circumstances:

    In the US, a relatively apolitical country, expressions of
    patriotism during Desert Storm reached the highest points of
    silliness: Buildings wrapped in yellow ribbons, mile-long ribbons
    on avenues, supermarket shopping bags saying "We support our troops",
    and $20 t-shirts with "Sadam Insane" inscribed on them. Many store
    receipts read "God Bless America" or "We Support our Troops" where
    "Thank You - Come again" used to be.

    Anyone who lived in the US in the year 1991 can vouch that the above
    took place. So why should Greece be any less patriotic? What's wrong
    with bus tickets saying "Macedonia is Greek"? Especially when the
    rest of the world (EEC, USA, UN) also seem to think so....

ES>--
ES>Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se

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From: cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.europe,eunet.politics,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Annoy Us (was Re:  What is a European country to you?)
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:48:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <1992Sep3.082813.23739@sunbim.be> sk@sunbim.be () writes:
>jd@latcs2.lat.oz.au (John Dimogotsis) writes:
>>        Did you know that according to EEC surveys the "Greeks" are 
>>supposed to be the least 'racist people' in Europe? So it is nonsence
>>to imply some abnormal level of nationalist fealing in this state.
>
>According to a Belgium newspaper  "Greeks" are 
>supposed to be the most 'racist people' in Europe!!!

And according to most soc.culture.greek subscribers, you are annoying.

>THE INFLEXIBLE POLITICAL ATTITUDE CONCERNING CYPRUS

What do you know about Cyprus? Eh?
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