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From: speterse%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (soren--Ms. Jackson if you're nasty)
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:25:53 MST
Organization: The Erland Cult

In article <4220@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>In article <WARKENT.92Nov18194639@ltisun14.epfl.ch> warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne) writes:
>>5) The Cavemen: were the first to use hollow logs for both rythm and
>>lead parts.

>Didn't they get a different singer and become the New Piltdowns?

Actually, they tried to *pretend* they got a new singer, but what
actually happened was the old singer had some major reconstructive
surgery--effectively, he had his entire jawbone replaced.  I gather
it was quite a scandal when word got out.

>>6) (Okay so it's a top six) Incan Sacrifice: THE most influential
>>group of the New World prior to Columbus.  Unfortunately now
>unkown due to their culture being wiped out.

>Shame.  Maybe they'll re-release it on CD.

I dunno.  Some cultures just don't transfer well to digital.  My old
analog copy of Early Medieval Europe (dark ages mix) just sounds
*better* than my new CD copy.

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From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:14:50 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1eh49pINNqah@life.ai.mit.edu> dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) writes:
>Give it up.  There's no excuse for treating people like shit.

I might remind you, Mr. Baggett, that first flame came from Silverman.  *My*
first post merely questioned why there were no black artists sharing the
list with the Police.   I also made an unfavorable comparison between Rush
and John Coltrane.  Hardly "spewing venom".

If Mr Silverman happens to take criticisms of Rush as a personal insult,
well then, frankly, tough shit.  In any case, he responded to my and Clayton's
criticisms with such thoughtful rejoinder's as "ignorant" and "prejudiced".

-- 
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From: arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew Farmer)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:04:24 GMT
Subject: Top 5 Joys Of Reading rec.music.misc Over Lunch
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc


  Boy this is fun. Let's hear it for Ray, Clayton and all the other regulars.
 Where would my life be without these recurrent flamewars? Stop whining,
 all of you - it's not like anything else entertaining or challenging
 happens in rec.music.misc.....

  So let's have more of the following:

  1). Rap isn't music. It doesn't have a tune, there are no instruments
      and nobody sings. It's just a fad.

  2). Rush are the best musicians in the cosmos and ever so bleeding clever.
      (Not so bleeding clever that they'd recognise the phrase "wankery"
      if it came at them wearing a big neon green "Go Away" baseball cap,
      mind you, heh heh).
  
  3). Led Zeppelin's use of blues music in no way reflects the treatment
      of black musicians within corporate rock music. And anyway they
      can't be racist 'cos they play black music.

  4). There's no point in jumping all over me just 'cos I expressed a few
      *opinions*. (This is often followed somewhat pedantically by a 
      definition of "opinion" nicked out of some dumb US dictionary, where 
      the word "colour" is spelt incorrectly and the word "shite" doesn't 
      exist).

  5). Front 242/Rush/Morrisey/Pink Floyd (delete as appropriate) haven't
      "sold out" just 'cos they sell millions of records and generate
      big $$$ for one of the world's most morally bankrupt industries.
      Their music is Art and is measurably and quantatively of higher 
      integrity and meaning than fluffy insubstantial pop stars like 
      Madonna who sell millions of records and generate big $$$ for one
      of the world's most morally bankrupt industries.

	arf
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: jeff@dewey.tamu.edu (Jeff Raymond)
Subject: Re: Voulez-Vous couchez avec moi, ce soir?
Organization: College of Architecture, Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:58:26 GMT

In article <BxyyE9.KIr@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> u0f98@keele.ac.uk (The Dominator) writes:
>
>Can someone please tell me the group who sang this (the subject title
>being the chorus) and what exactly the song was called?


Well, I can help you halfway.  I can't recall (or perhaps have blocked out)
the name of the group, but the song was called "Lady Marmalade" -- God, I
haven't heard that since before I was in high school.

jeff

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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: syd@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dennis P Hilgenberg)
Subject: Re: Sinead O'Connor doesn't quit
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Summary: Smash the Oligarchy
Keywords: Toothaches, Bald
Organization: Independents for Economic Recovery
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:35:24 GMT

>So if you think the
>your statement with the cigarettes was funny, it wasn't at all!

Yes, it was.

A cigarette would simultaneously act as a pacifier (she is, after all, 
little more than a big grumpy spoiled brat) and as the basis of a new 
image as "Marlboro Man," which will endear her to children worldwide 
(including her own), and would probably result in numerous offers for 
bit roles in western movies.  Her voice would improve, too, making her 
a viable candidate for multiple opportunities to perform "The Star 
Spangled Banner" at ice hockey games and the like.  So she would find it
far more profitable and, in the long run, satisfying, considering her
patriotic sensibilities, to stop making pop records and make something 
of herself.

"[O'Connor] needs a good kick in the ass."  -- F. Sinatra

-- 
Dennis Hilgenberg
syd@ecn.purdue.edu
LaRouche in '96
From: Linda.Birmingham@brunel.ac.uk (Linda Birmingham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: All about Eve new LP
Date: 22 Nov 92 14:18:47 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

In article <1992Nov20.113640.17565@visionware.co.uk> andyy@visionware.co.uk (Andy Yates) writes:
>Is there any chance that someone could give their
>opinion of the new "All about Eve" album please.
>How does it compare with "Touched by Jesus" in
Certainly !!!

It is not a bit like Jesus or Scarlet.

It is called "Ultraviolet" and is quite psychedelic in style. Echoes
of Sgt. Pepper in one track and Pink Floyd in another.

I have listened to it a few times and it hasn't grown on me yet.

It doesn't help that the words aren't included with the album.
I haven't got a clue what any of the songs are about !

So if any netter has the words please could you mail them to me.

We went to their concert and I wasn't impressed there either.

The average age of the audience was much older than usual (I'm
used to feeling as if I'm the granny) and few real
Goths were to be seen.

I don't want to see them again. But I'm not renowned for my
good taste in music !(Nor my spelling ! How do you spell renowned ? )

I loved "Jesus" and "Scarlet" and their other concerts. I'm most
disappointed. Julianne has had her hair cut and looks as if she
should be working in an office and the other two had no sparkle at all.

I'm sorry to be so derogatory. Not like me at all.

>terms of style, and is it all of the same genre
>as the "Phased" EP.

Yes. 

>
BTW my boyfriend is still a "real" fan and he enjoyed the concert.

He said if you like Pink Floyd you'll like the album.

I'd just like to know what the words are ! It would help !


Linda.

linda@brunel.ac.uk


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Brunel University, Uxbridge, Middlesex, England.
janet: Linda.Birmingham@brunel.ac.uk
From: gummi@rhi.hi.is (Gudmundur Bjarni Josepsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: SUGARCUBES: Itsit
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:22:00 GMT

Considering that the Sugarcubes are currently a part of the biggest tour
in the history of rock, have just released a new CD and an hour long video,
they look quite much alive.
Despite rumors and news in NME, MTV and others, the Sugarcubes are not
splitting up, according to themselves.  The sent an official statment to
the newspapers here and denied all rumors about a split.  They said
they were grateful for the hint, though.

Gummi
From: warkent@ltisun13.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Ray Shea Goes Ballistic (was Re: Top 10 bands of all time)
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:55:50 GMT
	<1eej5dINNt01@life.ai.mit.edu>
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne---Laboratoire de
	Teleinformatique
In-reply-to: dmb@xbar.ai.mit.edu's message of 18 Nov 92 23:21:17 GMT

In article <1eej5dINNt01@life.ai.mit.edu> dmb@xbar.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) wrote:
> So what would be wrong with that?  Do you have a problem with someone
> saying "Shakespeare is in my list of top 10 writers" without putting
> Chaucer on the list, even though he laid the foundation for
> Shakespeare's later work?  Personally, I'd have no problem putting
> Shakespeare above Chaucer.  Quality of art is not the same as
> contribution to the genre.

No, but I still have a problem with you if you post an article to, say,
rec.arts.books where you list ten authors, including Shakespeare,
as your top ten without any useful explanation why.

Saying "Shakespeare is in my top ten" is banal and not worth wasting
anybody's time.  Saying "Shakespeare is greater than Chaucer because
he was a better writer (or I've never read Chaucer)" is *not* an improvement.
Give us some insight, tell us something that we don't know, be witty,
find a fresh angle, but don't post stupid lists.

> If it's going to make you furious to read such posts you probably
> shouldn't take such obvious flame-bait as "Subject: Top 10 Bands
> EVER".

Look, we can sit back and let noise pollution, which is already
quite bad, kill this group, or we can try and do something about it.
If the noise polluters are too numerous and too obstinate to shut up,
rec.music.misc is doomed.  However, if Ray Shea and others can prevail,
we might just be able to have an interesting newsgroup.

At one point I gave up on rec.music.misc because I just couldn't
stand the junk but I also couldn't stand the idea of killing
articles that maybe, just maybe, contained something worth
reading.  There are only two ways out of that dilemma, unsubscribe
or flame every offender in site.  Well I unsubscribed and I missed
it, so now I'm back with flamethrower at hand.
--
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                 Laboratoire de Teleinformatique, EPFL, Suisse.
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From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: "Wet Dream" pun song
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 04:52:37 GMT

barman@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Dilip Barman) writes:

>There was a clever song that came out about five years or so ago called
>"Wet Dream".  The chorus was "I think I had a wet dream, floating in the
>jet stream".  It consists of funny puns and the singer tells the story of being
>a fish - some lines I recall are giving money to Jerry's squids;
>boy was he big - he had mussels all over him; let's get tanked; I've
>got a case of the crabs.  Who did this and where can I find a recording?
>Did he do more similar "songs"?  Thanks!

The guy was Kip Adotta.  It appears on the album _The_Comedian_of_the_
_United_States_.  You'll probably have to special-order it.
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: michaell@snake7.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Lee)
Subject: Re: New GENESIS Live CD
Organization: /usr/lib/news/rn/organization
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:31:21 GMT

In article <ixkcavv@Unify.Com> veit@Unify.com (Veit Irtenkauf) writes:
>I heard that a new Genesis live CD is supposed to be released soon.
>When?  And it should be a 'Vol 1' CD.  Does this mean they will come
>out with additional live CDs.  And, is there any specific order in
>these live CDs, like titles from the early 70s on the first, late
>70s on the second aso.?

Volume 1 came out today.  It is basically singles from the Mama album,
Invisible Touch, and We Can't Dance live.  It's subtitled "the shorts",
and includes IT, I Can't Dance, No Son of Mine, Land of Confusion, Mama,
That's All....  All of it is from the IT or WCD tours.

Vol 2. will be out Jan 19.  It'll have the '92 Medley of 70's tunes (Dance
on a Volcano, Lamb, Musical Box, etc. It'll also have the Drum Duet, 
and all of the long songs from the last three albums: Domino, Home By The
Sea, Driving the Last Spike, and Fading Lights.

If you are looking for 70's stuff, go for Genesis live or Seconds Out...this
is all 80's and 90's Genesis here....

Michael Lee

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From: dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman)
Subject: Cache of early previously-unreleased Elton John
Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:24:31 GMT

I was reading in the CD Newsletter the other day that a couple of bootlegs
have appeared containing well over a dozen previously-unheard Elton
John tracks from his early days with Dick James. These are supposedly
highly produced songs, and in many cases are better than the stuff
that made up his first album ("Empty Sky"). I assume this stuff "slipped"
out the door when they were researching the "Early Masters" album,
and Polygram has indicated that this type of stuff will probably be
issued legitimately at some point.

I'm curious if anyone has heard these releases, and if so, what they
thought of them...

dap



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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary A. Warren -- Montreal, Quebec, Canada)
Subject: Re: Movie stars in rock videos
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Jackson,movie,video  
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:10:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.010559.21412@seas.gwu.edu>, geigel@seas.gwu.edu (Joseph Geigel) writes...
> 
>   I was watching the video for Annie Lenox's "Walking on Broken 
>   Glass" the other day, and was surprised to see John Malkovich
>   in the video. ...
> 
>   I guess appearing in rock video is the latest chic thing to do 
>   in Hollywood.
> 
>   Can anyone think of other examples?

Macauly Culkin -- Michael Jackson's "Black or White" springs immediately to 
mind.  Wesley Snipes appeared in "Bad" as the gang's ringleader.  that's 
all i can think of at the moment.

"All the colors of the world should be
 Lovin' each other whole-heartedly ..."
	The Jacksons, "Can You Feel It?"

Rosemary Warren		rwarren@topaz.concordia.ca
Montreal's Favorite Jacksonmaniac !!!

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
From: 002519m@ace.acadiau.ca (KRISTIAN AARON MACCALL)
Subject: Re: Bands with self-titled songs?
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:28:43 GMT

In article <92325.152651SDW2@psuvm.psu.edu> Scott Wilson <SDW2@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:26:50 EST
>From: Scott Wilson <SDW2@psuvm.psu.edu>
>Subject: Re: Bands with self-titled songs?
>How about these?
>
>My Army of Lovers  by Army of Lovers
>Living in a Box by Living in a Box
>
>and the ultimate in redundancy (sp?)
>
>Talk Talk by Talk Talk
>
>Scott Wilson

Rank and File  by  Rank and File

Is there anyone else out there who's heard this, or am I THAT alone...

K
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: all-star dead band
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:21:23 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <4221@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>upstairs and sleep it off.  He did of internal bleeding, I think.  What
                                ^^^
                             uh, "died", he did

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From: brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Address of EMI in London - Help
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:54:52 GMT

Would someone be able to email me the postal address of EMI in London, or
more specifically, the department of EMI I would lobby if I wanted them to
release a CD of B-sides :-)  Public Relations Dept?  Information Dept?

Any info or suggestions welcome.  Thanks!

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Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:27684 alt.rock-n-roll:18321
From: gillon@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Movie stars in rock videos
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:00:42 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <Bxv5uG.CuG@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130r92d@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mark R Miller) writes:
> In article <CHRISB.92Nov16230945@lynx.ps.uci.edu>, chrisb@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Chris Barrus) writes...
>> 
>>In article <BxuBL5.IyG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (the man ) writes:
>> 
>>   geigel@seas.gwu.edu (Joseph Geigel) writes:
>> 
>> 
>>   >   I guess appearing in rock video is the latest chic thing to do 
>>   >   in Hollywood.
>> 
>>   >   Can anyone think of other examples?
>> 
>> 
>>   Chevy Chase in "Call me Al" - Paul Simon
>>   Tawny Kitaen in those Whitesnake videos (David Coverdale's wife)
>>   Johnny Depp in "Into the great wide open" - Tom Petty
>>   Arnold Schwarzenegger in "You could be Mine" - Guns 'N Roses
>> 
>>   Many many more which I haven't the time to think of...
>>   this should help start a list...
>> 
>>						   Dave
>> 
>>=======================================================
>> 
>>Eeek!  Another goddamn list.  In any case, add...
>> 
>>Leonard Nimoy in "Going Down To Liverpool" by The Bangles
>>Lou Diamond Phillips in "The Angels" by Melissa Etheridge
>>Robin Williams in "Don't Worry, Be Happy" by Bobby McFerrin
>>--
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>> 
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> 
> 
> Alex Winter in "Knock me Down" by the Red Hot Chili Peppers





-------> Well, there's also Michael J.Fox in "Too Late for Goodbye" by 
Julian Lennon
	
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: speterse%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (soren--Ms. Jackson if you're nasty)
Subject: Re: Top 10 bands of all time
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:58:42 MST
Organization: The Erland Cult

In article <4229@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.162554.284@hellgate.utah.edu> speterse%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (soren--Ms. Jackson if you're nasty) writes:
>>I dunno.  Some cultures just don't transfer well to digital.  My old
>>analog copy of Early Medieval Europe (dark ages mix) just sounds
>>*better* than my new CD copy.


>But the CD has the bonus Mega-Beat Box Inquisition Mix...140 beatings per
>minute!


But that's just it!  It's just another example of one of those stupid
"updated" remixes, where they take a perfectly good eon and destroy it
by doing it in a fashionable style.  the Inquisition are just so...so...
thirteenth century.  When I want to Early Middle Ages, I want Early
Middle Ages, goddamnit--pigshit, collapse-of-central-authority-in-the-
wake-of-barbarian-invasions and all!

It's just like that execrable "Don't Stand so Close to Me '86"--whatever
possessed the Police (one of the ten best bands of all time) to release
that monstrosity, I'll never know.

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From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Maria McKee (was: Lead singer of Lone Justice)
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:52:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: heurikon.1866
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

Ms. McKee seems also to be doing some serious background howling on
the U2 cover of CCR's "Fortunate Son", which appears on the current
single from AchBabe "Who's Gonna Ride Your Wild Horses?." Not that
it helps much, in this case (they are more successful covering "Paint
It Black" here, I think - but mostly because of the yawning gulf that
separates today's youth from the time when the Rolling Stone actually
made crucial music...more carping by old farts....grumble grumble).
--
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: torkel@sics.se (Torkel Franzen)
Subject: Re: Answering questions (was Re: Voulez-Vous couchez avec moi, ce soir?
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:39:35 GMT

In article <WARKENT.92Nov20182620@ltisun13.epfl.ch> warkent@ltisun13.epfl.ch
 (Ken Warkentyne) writes:

   >When answering these questions, please do so by e-mail.  Where's the
   >FAQ?  Do people read the darned thing?

  Nobody ever reads FAQs.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: straffin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ethan Douglas Straffin)
Subject: Re: When is the new Tori Amos due out?
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:58:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.214014.12053@rtsg.mot.com> chuck.rudolph@cigseg.rtsg.mot.com writes:
>
>A couple of months back, I heard an interview with Tori Amos on the
>radio.  She mentioned a new album that sounded as if it was due out
>reel soon.  She wouldn't mention the title though.  She said it was a
>secret.  Does anybody know when (or if) this album is going to be
>released?

   I've heard it's due by the end of the year, but it may not contain
any "new" material.  Since Tori already has a dozen songs (plus live
versions) which are not available domestically in the U.S., Atlantic
has finally decided to do something about it and release a
compilation.  No idea about release info in other countries.

Ethan 

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