Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: PCTE and ATIS
From: kissman@sda.com (Mark Kissman)
Date: 24 Jun 92 13:28:14 GMT
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In <1992Jun22.114646.17849@hemel.bull.co.uk> ewoods@hemel.bull.co.uk (Eoin Woods) writes:

>For a PCTE implementation (called "EAST") - note that PCTE is a standard, not
>a product - contact SFGL.


"EAST" is an environment product built on top of a PCTE implementation
from GIE Emeraude. This implementation is of PCTE 1.5 which is *not* a
standard. The standard version is ECMA PCTE.

SDA distributes the Emeraude implementation (called V12). For more
information, please contact me.




Best regards,
Mark A. Kissman
Software Design & Analysis (SDA)
(303)444-9100, kissman@sda.com

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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 92 10:21:40 MDT
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Subject: PCTE and ATIS
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>I am interested in information on:

>1. availability and cost of PCTE and of ATIS, especially to universities and
>   research institutes;

SDA is a distributor of Emeraude's implementation of PCTE 1.5 (this
is virtually the only commercially available implementation at this
time). It runs on most of the UNIX platforms. A standalone license
is US$8,180 (US$1,227 for qualifying universities) and documentation
is US$550 plus shipping. Annual maintenence contract is 15% of
license cost or US$1,670 minimum.

If you are interested a more detailed product description, please
let me know.


>2. any attempts at building environments (either commercial or research)
>   using PCTE or ATIS and comments on ease of doing so/success/ease of tool
>   integration/etc.....

SDA is aware of several organizations building environments on PCTE
(mostly US DoD). Two French companies, SFGL and Syseca are building
enviroment products based upon PCTE (EAST and Enterprise II).


>I will summarise any responses,

I would be interested in the responses.

Best regards,
Mark A. Kissman
(303) 444-9100 kissman@sda.com
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Date: Mon, 22 Jun 92 14:10:04 PDT
From: paul@hal.com (Paul Sander)
Subject: RE: PCTE and ATIS
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Hi Jenny,

In article <17837.2a44bb12@levels.unisa.edu.au> you write:
>I am interested in information on:
>
>1. availability and cost of PCTE and of ATIS, especially to universities and
>   research institutes;
>2. any attempts at building environments (either commercial or research)
>   using PCTE or ATIS and comments on ease of doing so/success/ease of tool
>   integration/etc.....
>
>
>
>I will summarise any responses,
>Jenny Rowland
>------------
>(Flinders) University of South Australia
>email : rowland@flinders.cs.edu.au
>        rowland@unisa.edu.au

I'm afraid I can't help much with PCTE (or PCTE Plus), but I do know that
there are two implementations of ATIS.  One is from DEC, but I understand
that it is expensive, performs poorly, and it's quality of implementation
isn't all that great.  The other is Atherton Technology's "Software BackPlane"
product.  It's a commercial product and costs a couple of thousand US dollars
per seat.  Software BackPlane goes beyond ATIS in its object oriented-ness
also.

You can reach them by writing to:

Atherton Technology
1333 Bordeaux Drive
Sunnyvale, CA  USA  94089

Their telephone number is (408) 734-9822.  They are also quite familiar
with PCTE Plus, so you might write to John Gregory, gregory@Atherton.COM
to see how they might be supporting it.

Finally, the CIS committee (which wrote the ATIS document) is now X3H6,
which is part of ANSI.  Eric Black is involved with that effort, and you
can reach him at eric%mirador@sun.com .

Good luck!

Paul
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