HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bep1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (bentz.e.puryear)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Vail/Snowboards
Keywords: Vail Snowboards
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:03:07 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Went up to Vail on Saturday 12/19. They had good conditions with 5 inch.
new snow. I was surprised at how few people were there. We got to the
Lionshead Gondola at 8:25 and no one was there. We didn't even think it was
open because of no line. Walked right in and got on. We didn't come out of
the back bowls all day. Getting ready for a trip up to British Columbia
to Mike Wiegele Helicopter skiing so stayed in the trees most of the time.
Did see a lot of snowboards as we rode up the lift. They were having a great
time and because the snow was a little wind blown and crusty I think they
were having a easer time than we were with skis. I enjoy skiing in the trees
more than any other types of skiing but have never seen a snowboarder
in the trees. I would find it hard to believe that they could follow me in
the trees do to the radius of their turns. Do snowboarder's do the trees,
just curious, do not mean to put any one down. I thought the guys/gals on
the boards really looked graceful coming down the open bowls, easily the
best people I've ever seen on boards. Never did wait more than two or three
chairs for any lift all day it was great. Very Cold two degrees in the
morning up to about 18 during the day.


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: gjones@gateway.mitre.org (Gordon Jones)
Subject: Hotels Near Cannon and Waterville Valley, NH 
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:02:42 GMT


Does anybody know of any inexpensive hotels hear Cannon or 
Waterville Valley, New Hampshire ?
From: an660@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sandy Maurer)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Possible honeymoon suggestions...
Date: 3 Jan 1993 11:13:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: an660@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sandy Maurer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery) says:

>psburns@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (MAUREEN BURNS) writes:
>>If we decide to get married, our ideal honeymoon would be a week or two of 
>>skiing.  But where can one go in August, September, October?  Any 
>>suggestions?  Europe?  Canada? 
>
>You don't have the priorities right:
>
>1. Plan your ski trip.
>2. Decide to get married.
>3. Schedule the wedding for right before the ski trip.
>winter.
>
>"The family that skis together stays together."
>
Bill,

   Excellent advice!!!  Wish I had learned that before I married.
Now that I'm in a single status, my priorities are 

1. Skiing
2. Skiing with friends
3. Skiing with friends who do so for the love of the sport

Note...skiing with men (35-45) who are usually divorced...have never
skiied...usually over weight...have bad habits and say the line
`well I dont ski, but I'll give it a try' or `I'd like to accomodate
you to the ski resort & keep an eye on your gear in the lodge'
didnt make the list.

Regards
  Sandy
From: beilstei@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Sugarbush and surrounding area
Date: 22 Dec 92 11:30:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.213808.13772@sco.COM>, camille@sco.COM (Camille Balkwill) writes:
> I am going down to Sugarbush on December 26th with a large group.
> None of us have ever been before and we are interested in
> suggestions on what we should do in our time off the hill.
> 

	Well I haven't been to Sugarbush yet, maybe the weekend after
New Years so please post how your skiing "experience" went ;), but I have
been to Stowe.  Many from NE may argue with me, but I found Stowe to be
the best skiing so far in VT, although the 28" of snow they had while we
were there last Feb may have helped a little :-), I generally found the
variety of terrain and the challenge of the front 4 to be quite impressive.
I would suggest to anyone who is up in that area and has an extra day to
ski Stowe.  I loved it there.  Oh and there are numerous excellant restaurants
and bars in the village (town) of Stowe, and I don't believe that is more
than 10 miles or so from Sugarbush (could be wrong though).  The night life
was quite lively, although with all that fresh snow I didn`t party as hard
in the bars as I did on the slopes ;-)!  


-Enjoy.....Jim.


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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: How to parallel in  powder on pins
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 01:20:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.180017.25559@delfin.com> mark@delfin.com writes:
>Anyone have any wisdom on how someone who is a good telemarker but
>never did any fixed-heel skiing should go about developing a parallel
>turn that works in powder?
>Any drills or exercises I should try?

Learn how to Alpine downhill ski.
Figure out weighting and positioning of foot and calves without big
plastic boots.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			3 down 1 to go.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.travel
From: majidh@atlastele.com (Majid Hajari)
Subject: Need info on skiing in Italy (Milan)
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:35:14 GMT

I am going to Milan (Italy) in January for 3 weeks so I was wondering
if there are any good ski resort near by (couple hrs of driving or train).

Any suggestions or recommendation will be greatly appreciated.


PS: I am an advance skier so I am looking for some challaging runs.


Majid

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: George Kuetemeyer <icvgk@tjuvm.tju.edu>
Subject: Re: Park City - Snowboarding
X-Xxdate: Wed, 23 Dec 92 16:48:17 GMT
Organization: Thomas Jefferson University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:47:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.182230.17719@pts1.pts.mot.com> CHARLES ACTOR X2922
P7091, ep502ca@pts.mot.com writes:
>Where in the Park City area are snowboards allowed?  And what are the
conditions like?
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: Re: Vail/Snowboards
Keywords: Vail Snowboards
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 00:10:29 GMT

bep1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (bentz.e.puryear) writes:

>Went up to Vail on Saturday 12/19. They had good conditions with 5 inch.
>new snow. I was surprised at how few people were there. We got to the
>Lionshead Gondola at 8:25 and no one was there. We didn't even think it 
>open because of no line. Walked right in and got on. We didn't come out 
>the back bowls all day. Getting ready for a trip up to British Columbia
>to Mike Wiegele Helicopter skiing so stayed in the trees most of the tim
>Did see a lot of snowboards as we rode up the lift. They were having a g
>time and because the snow was a little wind blown and crusty I think the
>were having a easer time than we were with skis. I enjoy skiing in the t
>more than any other types of skiing but have never seen a snowboarder
>in the trees. I would find it hard to believe that they could follow me 
>the trees do to the radius of their turns. Do snowboarder's do the trees?
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh no!, Boarders should never go in the trees.  OK only a select
few who have been fully indoctrinated, but make sure you ask me
first so I can make sure it's safe. :-)

Seriously if anything I feel more confident in the trees
on a board than on skis, I'm at about the same skill 
level in both.  The board rides higher in the snow
and the ability to rotate at the waist I think gives
a boarder a certain level of increased control. Kind
of like the ability of 1/2 pipe riders to land an
aerial facing just about any direction.  I've been 
boarding with a group of skier maniacs and was normally
able to lead in the trees.  Some of the lack of boarders
in the trees probably gets back to the experience level
of the average boarder.

Mark

From: blakely@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Frank Blakely)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:54:09 GMT
Subject: Re: xc heel positioner question
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

In rec.skiing, colson@tc.fluke.COM (Gary Colson) writes:

> Reading this weekend an early 80's book on mountain/backcountry skiing where
> quite a thing was made about a "heel indexing plate" which provided
> exceptional control on xc skis. a variety of such products were said to be
> on the market any of which worked well.  Basically a pin attached
> (protruding) from the rear of the heel that indexed itself into a small
> vertical "V" plate.  Seems to be an ingenious idea... ...how come I've never
> seen or heard of such a thing (in my brief 2 year interest in xc skiing)?  
> 
> Can anyone out there enlighten me on this.  

I have seen them.  They were fairly popular with some back-country/snow-camping
fanatics I skiied with in the late 70's, early 80's.  I always wanted to get
an extra set of boots and put them on my back-country skis.  I never got a
"round tuit".
> 
> Also on a post that was made a few weeks back concerning xc bindings for
> utilizing hiking boots on skis?  I haven't seen any response as to the
> availability of such a binding for back country skiing.  Seems like an
> entirely possible adaption however.
> 
This is the type of binding I have on my back country skis.  It is VERY stable,
though others say the "heel indexing plate" is "better".  I found that with
the cable bindings and high top hicking or skiing boots, I could effectively
ski with a 50 lb pack (soft frame).  I haven't seen any cable bindings in 8 or
10 years.  (Like in downhill, cables may be a thing of the past.  This is
called "PROGRESS" :-) )

   ___________________________________________________________________________
  
   Frank Blakely     (Phone: (303) 229-3447)    blakely@hpfela.fc.hp.com

   "Compost Happens"
From: scochran@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Steve Cochran)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:55:19 GMT
Subject: Re: Boycott Colorado
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

Ha!  Why don't you guys go to Utah or Idaho.  

SC
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: traal@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Brian Phillips)
Subject: What impresses an andience.
Organization: Great White North/UPLink
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:40:12 GMT

Anything that the performer makes look effortless will, therefore, be
interpreted as easy by the uninformed audience.  That statement should
probably be clarified by saying:  while seven balls look difficult to
a JUGGLER that cannot do them, a NONJUGGLER seeing seven balls done in
a showy manner will be unimpressed unless the JUGGLER appears to be on
the verge of losing the pattern at all times.

  --Traal the BRAVE 
-- 
  EMAIL (the Good, the Bad, or the Flame) to:  traal@lopez.marquette.MI.US
   "Take a walk through the looking-glass and see the other side!" -- BPP
            "Realism is often misconstrued as pessimism." -- BPP
          "My mailer hates everybody, be sneaky." -- Mary Margret
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz)
Subject: Roller Board
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 05:05:34 GMT

Thanks very much to the person who said that I could get a roller
board from Klutz--it arrived yesterday, and I'm already occasionally
steady on it. 

Nancy Lebovitz
nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu
From: jr@ksr.com (John Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Juggling Clubs
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:41:24 EST
Organization: Kendall Square Research, Waltham, MA
In-reply-to: femanrs@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov's message of 29 Dec 92 13:06:00 EST

In article <29DEC199213064131@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> femanrs@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (BRUCE MANNERS) writes:

   It has occured to me that there may be many other jugglers on the Net who
   live in towns (or at least close by) where there are juggling clubs that 
   they don't know anything about.

   So... I propose that all of you folks should list your local club and 
   either a phone or E-mail Contact name. 

And they might be best served by retrieving the file club-meetings
from moocow:/pub/juggling/info.  This has all the listings from
Jugglers World, perhaps enhanced.  Last updated March 1992.

If you don't know how to retrieve files from moocow, get started by
sending a message to juggling-request@moocow.cogsci.indiana.edu, with
the text:

  help

Happy 1993,
--
/jr, aka John Robinson                       Place stamps here
internet: jr@ksr.com                    Post Office will not deliver
uucp: {world,harvard,uunet}!ksr!jr      mail without correct postage
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: lcaselli@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa A Caselli)
Subject: Madfest
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:26:08 GMT



Does anyone have info on Madisons Juggling fest, Madfest.  I need days,
times, and cost.  Also, are there any good skiing places in the area?
I want to go and juggle for a day and ski for a day.

Thanks,
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From: root@athena.mit.edu (Generic post server)
Subject: Injuries
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:50:05 GMT

Injuries are possible from repetitive motions in juggling, common ones
being tendonitis and Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. My orthopedist gave me
a couple reccomendations to avoid these
   1) vary the practice/routine to bring different motions in fairly
         frequently. I was advised not to go more than about 15 min without
         a change, but thats me.
   2) listen to your body. If it hurts, rest. Note that there are different 
          kinds of hurt and some kinds are just saying that you are getting
           excercise, and others are saying you are getting injured
   3) warm up
   4) don't lock up your joints (esp wrist) for fear of getting a pull or
          sprain from impoact
   5) conversly, don't let your joints be too loose for fear of getting an
          injury from hyperextention
  
and 6) (this is mine) if you are getting joint pain, you can try changing
       your technique to lessen injury (for me, changing my club technique
       really lessened my tendonitis)

most of all, use your head.

G
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: perry@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (perry)
Subject: Gulko's tie act
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 17:48:37 CST
Comments: CHAIRMAN IJA

The reason Gulko's tie act is not on the tape is that he specifically 
told the IJA that he did not want it included in any of the IJA video 
tapes.  As for the other comments, I am making copies of all 
information/comments regarding the videos and will forward them to Steve 
SAlberg.

Have a safe holiday everyone.

Perry Rubenfeld
Newsgroups: rec.juggling,uw.general,kw.general,ont.general
From: rbutterw@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ray Butterworth [MFCF])
Subject: Re: Tax evasion!!
Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo
Distribution: can
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:05:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.151435.4042@trentu.ca> xtkmg@trentu.ca (Kate Gregory) writes:
>In article <1992Dec22.092603.14050@sq.sq.com> dave@lsuc.on.ca (David Sherman) writes:
>>
>>Whether you carry on business is COMPLETELY unrelated to whether you
>>register a business name.  Only the former is relevant for purposes
>>of determining what expenses you can claim for income tax purposes.
>>
>This is an overly literal view of the situation. Sometimes Revenue
>Canada needs to "decide" whether you are running a business or
>not. They don't just ask you. They look at things like: does the
>business have a bank account? Letterhead? Business phone line?
>More than one client? Do you run a financial risk? (for example
>if you have been on contract to one company for five years,
>there isn't much chance you'll lose money) Does the company own
>assets such as computers? And so on.

I had to have a ruling on my "company" a few years back.
I had none of the things you mention, and only two clients.
The only real question they asked me was whether or not I would
have asked for extra money if the software installation I did
had taken longer than I had expected.  If I had said "yes",
they would have ruled that I was an employee of the client
rather than a private company contracting to do a specific
job for a predetermined price, and therefore would have had
to have CPP, UI, income tax, etc. withheld by the employer.
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: mohit@eos.ncsu.edu (mohit bhatnagar)
Subject: what is it (3-ball pattern) and few tips for beginners 
Originator: mohit@athena.psrc.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: mohit@eos.ncsu.edu (mohit bhatnagar)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 05:45:14 GMT


Brad from bj871@cleveland.Freenet.Edu

wants to know the name of the trick (as I understand), he writes

> What I've been doing is starting with a reverse cascade pattern, but easing
> out of it, in that the balls don't cross over, or rather, the hands do 
> instead.  The balls travel in columns, but the hands cross and uncross while
> carrying balls, so that, although ball formation is the one for columns, the
> balls are mixed...
> Make any sense at all?  
> Anybody know what I'm doing? :)
 
i think you are doing what is called pistons. and though you are still
few solid hours of  frustating and possibly painful juggling, albeit
worth every ounce of effort, from mills' mess, but don't worry, it will
come soon.  

if you are serious about 3-ball juggling i highly recommend
buying/getting/borrowing/stealing (if you can find a librray that has
one ...) a book called

	"Beyond the Cascade"   it cost only $10-11 and its address is in JW
also worth seeing is IJA's tape on 3-ball juggling. animation softwares
are great help too. check help files on moocow. and best of all, find a
juggling club and u will find lots of people to tell/show you various
patterns.   GOOD LUCK

merry X-mas to all of you 

mohit

ps: juggle till your room-mates puke or get dizzy or ready to decimate you!! 
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu (Gregory Cohen)
Subject: Re: Unicycle
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 13:54:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.183144.24227@hellgate.utah.edu> galt%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Greg Alt) writes:
>I just got a unicycle, and I had some questions that weren't answered
>in the faq.
>
>1) Which way is the front of the unicycle?  The seat is not completely
>   symmetrical--the post is attached to a point that is about an inch
>   away from the center.  Does it matter even?

	Look at your peddles .. they are labled near where they are
screwed onto the crank.  If you have the seat facing the wrong way, or
if you sit on it backwards you can unscrew the peddles.


Greg Cohen
gcohen@mailer.cc.fsu.edu
From: bj871@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bradford J. Linder)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: what is this?
Date: 25 Dec 1992 05:08:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bj871@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bradford J. Linder)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Okay, this is my first post, if I say anythign wrong, doen't scream too loud:)

Anyway, I've been working on a trick, and I have no idea what it is... For
all I know, it's one of the one's that has been discussed here, but I've been 
having trouble following the multiple descriptions of tricks such as Mill's 
Mess, so haven't been able to decide.

What I've been doing is starting with a reverse cascade pattern, but easing
out of it, in that the balls don't cross over, or rather, the hands do 
instead.  The balls travel in columns, but the hands cross and uncross while
carrying balls, so that, although ball formation is the one for columns, the
balls are mixed...
Make any sense at all?  
Anybody know what I'm doing? :)

--Brad--
-- 
Lately, I've become accustomed to the way the ground opens up and envelopes me
each time I go out to walk my dog.  Or the broad edges silly music the wind 
makes when I rund for a bus-  Things have come to that.
                                                         -Leroi Jones
From: jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk (John Nicoll)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Juggling and RSI (Repetitive Strain Injury)
Date: 3 Jan 93 13:53:46 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK


Hello all
	I've been juggling 3-ball (& trying clubs) for a
while now, and have been wondering if there is any possibility
of injury from the repetitive catching that necessarily goes on.
One hears a lot about such problems from keyboarding these days, 
and since I have a malformed & mechanically awkward right hand
I pay attention to this!

I've just had a fortnights break from keyboarding (Christmas/New
year), and have been doing a fair bit of juggling. I notice that I
still have (occasionally) the slight soreness & tingling in my
palms and fingers that I associate with too much/bad typing. Has
anyone else had experience of this? Am I catching badly? What will
happen when I try clubs for real? (I know my hands may well get
_sore_ from  this, but that's not what I mean).

Comments welcome

	john N
 
-- 
john nicoll (jkn@ohm.york.ac.uk)
Department of Electronics  University of York
Heslington   YORK YO1 5DD U.K
Tel +44 (904) 433221   Fax +44 (904) 432335
From: noel@reg.triumf.ca (NOEL GIFFIN)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Videos are HERE!
Date: 22 Dec 1992 01:22 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: reg.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

>[stuff deleted]
> 
>> Also, I had heard at the Philadelphia convention that Gulko's tie act was
>> HYSTERICAL and had people practically rolling in the aisles with laughter.
>> If that's true, how could it possibly have been omitted?
> 
>Search me.  Maybe Gulko didn't want someone to steal it?  Who knows?  The
>point is, it's a pity that it's not there, it IS hysterically funny.
> 
I'll second that! It was hysterically funny and definately a hilight by
any standard.  If it isn't on any of the tapes it would be a great pity for
all.  It was an event that should be shared.  Does anyone know for sure
why it was excluded?  Maybe it is on the juniors competition tape if there
is such a beast?  I was going to order a hilites tape but if that isn't on
it then the editors have a different set of priorities than I do.


						Noel@reg.triumf.ca
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: femanrs@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (BRUCE MANNERS)
Subject: Juggling Clubs
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 29 Dec 1992 13:06 EST  

Over the past several days I have come in contact with a juggler from 
Cleveland through the Net who didn't know anything about the 
Akron Rubber City Jugglers.

It has occured to me that there may be many other jugglers on the Net who
live in towns (or at least close by) where there are juggling clubs that 
they don't know anything about.

So... I propose that all of you folks should list your local club and 
either a phone or E-mail Contact name. 

So... Here goes:

    Akron Rubber City Jugglers
    Akron, Ohio  meets every monday from 7:00 to 9:00pm
    Net Contact: Bruce Manners    femanrs@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov

Next...
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Bruce Manners                                          Juglito, ergo sum

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