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Daniel:  Here are some titles of non-technical books on the lower function-
ing autistic child:  Mira Rothenberg's CHILDREN WITH EMERALD EYES; Ann
Lovell's IN A SUMMER GARMENT:  THE EXPERIENCE OF AN AUTISTIC CHILD;
Carolyn Betts's A SPECIAL KIND OF NORMAL; Beavers' AUTISM:  NIGHTMARE
WITHOUT END; Florence Milnes Kozak's AUTISTIC CHILDREN:  A WORKING DIARY.
Wendy Bousfield
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From:         Anne Pemberton <apembert@VDOE386.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      RE: autism research
              "HUGGINS@merlin.nlu.edu" at Nov 18, 92 9:58 am

Lynda,
   I agree wholeheartedly with the idea of keeping special kids
in the regular ed setting as much as possible. The TMR class in
our county is located in the middle school in the middle/high
school complex. As a general rule, the students arrive in HS
with a sense of caring towards those mid-range retarded
children -- more than could never be taught in thousand of
lecture and/or video hours. And, YES, the faculty and
administration have to make extra efforts sometimes to make
sure that bullies & such don't make targets out of some of
these kids. It is probably easier to do in a small rural
community than in some urban settings.
    Anne
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From:         Jean Hunter <MS3Y@CORNELLA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: our latest meeting

Dan - Congrats on your partial - yet substantial - victory for Alex.  Now
that an aide has been designated to help out Alex on the playground, how will
the aide be trained? Will the school system let the aide sit in on Alex's
speech therapy sessions which focus on social skills?  To whom will the aide
look for consulting support and advice?  (Not the school psychologist, I hope).
Can they ensure that the same aide will be assigned each day, not just the
nearest pair of hands?
   It sounds like Alex will start learning a lot more on the playground!  Best
wishes to him and to you.  cheers -- Jean
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From:         Speed Bump <DNWIEBE@OWUCOMCN.BITNET>
Subject:      Well-rounded Lyle

        Well, *I* certainly don't have problems with you fraternizing with
both Christians and Jews.  I'm part of a whole congregation of Jewish people
who believe that Tenach prophecy pinpoints Yeshua ben-Yosef (Jesus, son of
Joseph) as the promised Jewish Messiah.  As such, their beliefs resemble
those of Christians in a number of areas, and they're much more involved with
Christians and Christian activities than many Jews in the area seem to be.
Also, a large percentage of the congregation consists of Gentile Christians
(like me) who like the Messianic Jewish style of worship better than the
Christian kind because it better helps them get to the roots of their own
faith.
        My own friends while I was in college also spanned a large number of
different cultures.  Now that I'm out of college, I don't run into quite as
many foreign exchange students, but the enrichment is still there.  (For
awhile, I chased a Malaysian Chinese girl, and so hung around with the
Malaysian contingent and learned a number of things.  I caught Lauren instead,
and I'm glad, but the experience remains.)
        But I don't quite understand how your message demonstrates your
autism.  (Maybe that's because I'm autistic too, so it looks perfectly normal
to me.)

Shalom,
Dan
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From:         Jean Hunter <MS3Y@CORNELLA.BITNET>
Subject: Re: school aides (was: re our latest meeting)

Rosanne - We had also wondered about Jeff needing extra help in art and gym.
(music is not an issue for him).  However, the teachers have repeated over
and over that the range of abilities, prior training and attention spans is
so wide at the kindergarten level that they expect to spend a lot of time in
individualized work for _all_ of the children.
   We had Jeff evaluated for "adaptive phys. ed." at the beginning of the year.
They determined that while his gross motor skills and attending skills were
both below average, they weren't far enough out of the range of the rest of
the class to justify a special placement.  This is OK with us; the bottom line
is that he is receiving peer reinforcement rather than adult support on
attending, teamwork and sports skills.  For art, he is in an "art focus group"
with a few other kids, none of whom can draw worth a hoot.  We've seen two
outcomes from this - first, his spontaneous drawings, while still very
stereotyped, have become more complex, and he is able to move drawing elements
around and combine them in new ways when given plenty of verbal support.
Even better, he has begun to take a mild interest in drawing, rather than
resisting it as interference with his beloved habit of list-writing.
   Last Friday we had a meeting with Jeff's teacher, aide, speech therapist
and occupational therapist.  The focus was on ways to use Jeff's favorite
activities to help him practice his social and language skills.  He loves
reading, songs with body action, and writing lists.  Besides reading with
classmates, which he does already, we decided to have him help teach a song,
and we have nominated him class pollster - asking kids at choice time,"What
are you doing" and "Why did you pick that to do?", then recording the answers.
Any more suggestions out there?  Thanks in advance -- Cheers, Jean
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From:         "Dan M." <D6M@CORNELLA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Part of my autistic tendancies......

Lyle,

I don't think your example of your "rudeness" is rudeness at all! You
are simply partaking in a variety of activities with different groups of
people.  That is a wonderful way to learn about different cultures
and people and to see what they have in common and what they don't.
The fact that your rabbi is saddened by your visiting a church does
not mean that your are insensitive to his feelings.  We can't go through
life trying to live up to every one else's visions of who we are and
what we should do.  Rudeness would be making fun of that rabbi's
synagogue or his religion or trivializing their importance to
him.  Your ability to make friends with a variety of people from
different backgrounds is, if anything, proof of your lack of
insensitivity!
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Subject:      Re: Helen's Gold Award

Carol,


       GREAT NEWS!!!


Curtis Maurand
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From:         CW04GST <CW04GST@SJUMUSIC.BITNET>
Subject:      autism video

looking to speak with anyone who has done research or hs
produced video materials for or about school-age autistic
individuals or groups.

also looking for anyone who could contribute to design of
a program in which video or video production is used to
facilitate communication by non-verbal students.

interested individuals, please contact, ATTN: M. LEVENTHAL
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:46:36 EST
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From:         Anne Pemberton <apembert@VDOE386.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      Re: "Jaime"
              "FARBER_R%SPCVXA.BitNet@pucc.princeton.edu" at Nov 15, 92 10:20 pm

Roseanne,
    My heart goes out to you. If you feel like you can, please
tell us more about Jaime. He sounds like a brave young man to
have faced open heart surgery at such a tender age.

       Anne
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From:         "Mr. Spock" <lexier@SFU.CA>
Subject:      Part of my autistic tendancies......
              20, 92 9:46 am

I will give you an example of one way that I am autistic.

I am a Jewish guy who is well-rounded in different cultures.  For
example I go sometimes to synagogue, I go to Jewish functions, I am
the president of the SFU Jewish Club, but also, I like going to
church, the Krishna temple for Sunday night vegetarian feasts, German
clubs, etc.  The point I'm making here is that I am insensitive and
offensive to Jewish people without realizing it.  For example, my
rabbi is hurt by the fact that I enjoy Christmas carols and Christian
music.  He says that a Jewish boy should have nothing to do with
Christmas.  Why is it that I am Jewish and Christian?  It is probably just
to make as many friends as possible and to be accepted as much as
possible.  Is it quite common for autistic adults to try to fit in as
much as possible to different cultures?  I have Jewish, Christian,
Krishna-followers, gay, Chinese, African, native, and many other kinds
of friends.

Lyle Lexier
   (I just wanted to show you how autistic people can be rude and insensitive
    to other people)
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Date:         Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:02:58 -0500
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Subject:      Re: our latest meeting

Dan,Sounds like things are moving in the right direction
at Alex's school.
   However I might suggest that an aide for Alex in Music,
Art and Gym might be very beneficial.Usually those teachers
are regular teachers and are taken back by a special child.
Rosanne
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Subject:      Re: Books

Just my 2 cents, but there is a significant body of work out there that
should be translated into several different languages; not just italian.
The one you mentioned is a good place to start.  Temple Grandin's
"Emergence: Labeled Autistic" is a good one to try.  It will give
many people an idea as to the perceptions of a person with autism.  Good
luck in your search.


         Curtis Maurand
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From:         Speed Bump <DNWIEBE@OWUCOMCN.BITNET>
Subject:      Helen

        Well, congratulations to Helen and to you too, Carolyn!

Dan
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Subject:      girls vs boys and socialization skills

Is it just my imagination.... as I read your notes about your children
in school, I get the idea that autistic girls are more sociably inclined
than autistic boys.  Well, that probably is no surprise -- aren't young
girls in general more sociably inclined than boys?   Maybe in kindergarten
other children seem unaware of social and other deficits, but that will
change drastically by the time they are about 8 years old, so you all are
very wise to move aggressively in this area at a time when the other
children are more open and accepting.  I wish we had been able to
focus on Steven's social skills before age 8, when his peers admired him
for his highly advanced reading and writing skills.  By age 8 they were
quite aware that he was different and easily teased, and he had no friends
to intervene or cheer him up.  Even as nice as most everyone was at his
little school, he had problems.  I thought then that he was not capable of
participating in a friendship, but am sure now that I was wrong.  He gave
no signs of this capability, but he had a lot of unexhibited abilities and
this was undoubtedly another one that I missed.  An important one at that.
It's good that you all are more aware of this need than I was 15 or so
years ago.  Just keep working on those educational administrators!

Carolyn, it is always enjoyable to read about Helen -- sign me up as one
more of Helen's admirers in the U.S.

MK
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From:         Heather sect 510 <HLB1284@TAMZEUS.BITNET>
Subject:      breakthrough

Howdy folks,
        I have been tuning into this list for about 2 months now.  In all
my computer genius I finally figured out how to reply just now.  I want to
thank you all for your contributions and I have learned a lot from you.
My name is Heather Bowman and I am a junior special education major from
Texas A&M University.  I was driven to reply after hearing about Alex's
success in recieving an aide.  I have learned a great deal about special
education and the rights of parents and children who are involved in
special education.  I have a unique curiosity in Autism which has kept me
entertained thus far.
        I am currently doing a short (and I mean short) paper on Autism for
an Educational Psychology class.  I will use, if there are no objections,
the information that I found interesting on the list. Your experiences,
trials, and concerns have been invaluable to me as future teacher and have
made me realize that I have much to autism.  Kanner's work has touched me
in his reports of the first 11 children he studied and his follow up in
their lives.  I have also realized that there is much to learn and to
points that need to be addressed in teaching children with autism. I
welcome any thoughts and opinions.  Thank you for your time.

GIG 'EM AGGIES
Sincerely,
Heather Bowman
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Subject:      Books

I am currently reading "Children with autism - A parents' guide" edited
by M.D.Powers and forworded by B.S.Greenough. I would be interested in
comments on this book and other books which might be considered for translation
into Italian. I am now realizing that much of the cultural atmosphere
in Italy is still similar to the one describedy for the U.S. in the 70's.
Very few scientists and educators are aware of what is debated, for instance,
in this mail list. Is anybody willing to advice me on which book for parents
and educators is worth to be translated?  Thank you in advance.

                 Dr Stefano Palazzi
                 H S.Raffaele, Milan, Italy
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Subject:      Re: "Jaime"

Thanks Lauren,to not have knowm Jaime would have been a greater
loss,I agree,and that is some consolation.
Rosanne
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From:         Wendy Bousfield <LIBWBB@SUVM.BITNET>

Lisa:  I was very interested in your comments on Donna Williams' NOBODY
NOWHERE, especially your suggestion that the creation of the personas
of Willie and Carol were a response to child abuse.  At Sunday brunch
yesterday, my husband and I asked Gene, my autistic, 23-year-old step-
son whether he had ever created personas.  He said that he had not, but
that from childhood through the present that he created imaginary friends
as a way of coping with loneliness.  (I should say that Gene has little
speech and that, until he began facilitating a year and a half ago, every-
one considered him retarded.)  My observation of Gene's imaginary friends
is that he will take a person he knows slightly and embroider a relationship
around them, much as Donna did with the Carol persona.

I do want to reiterate what I said before.  Read NOBODY NOWHERE!  Wendy
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Subject: Helen's Gold Award
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I'm sharing this latest news of Helen's progress with you as a demonstration
of the benefits of positive reinforcement in a normal school setting.

Towards the end of last year, Helen's school acquired four new colour
computers. Since they were so much in demand by the students, it was decided
that only those children who had attained a gold award for good behaviour
would be allowed to use them. To achieve a gold award, the pupils had to
have at least 25 weeks of exemplary behaviour in all facets of school
activities. Each week that a child achieved an excellent behaviour record,
he/she was awarded a 'star' and five stars earned a silver award - needing
four silver awards plus five stars before the gold award.

Earlier this year, Helen decided that she was going to win a gold award so
that she could play on the colour computers. I must admit that I wasn't
totally convinced that she would make it before the end of the year.... her
class room 'roaming' was too frequent at that stage. However, when the teachers
realized how important this was to Helen, they decided that if she returned
to her seat at the first request, then they would not count such instances as
constituting 'bad' behaviour. It took about a month for the first star to be
awarded to her, but since then she has amassed stars with increasing frequency
until finally she received her last star last Friday. The presentation of her
Gold Award is at 2pm today and tomorrow for the first time she gets to use the
computers. I found out this morning that the special consideration had only
been given to her until the 4th silver, after that she had to remain seated to
get the remaining five stars - but she did it and it only took her 6 weeks -
the week she missed out, she was 'off-the-planet' at home as well and had a
bad case of hives.... origin unknown, although the privet bushes were in
flower at the time and I know she was in contact with them at one stage (I'm
allergic to privet flowers, so that's the most likely suspect).

I guess you must know how proud I am feeling...... her father too - he has told
her that when she brings her award home this afternoon, it will be framed and
placed on the wall alongside the rest of the family's major degrees and
certificates. The only thing we have to be wary of now, is that she doesn't
make life unbearable for Tony until he is able to hang his first certificate in
January (hopefully!). :-)

Carolyn
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Subject:      Re: "Jaime"

Thank you for your kind words.I really appreciate your thoghts.
Rosanne
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Subject:      Book advice

After my quest for a book worth to be translated into Italian, as so far
I have received the references and comments below. Many thanks.
Before I go to a publisher, I will try to get and read part of the books.
I will also discuss the candidate books with a couple of parents of an
autistic girl involved with an Italian group of parents.
I am afraid, however, that if I actually read all of them, then
I will be almost ready to write one myself. Perhaps I still need more
advice. My criteria for the selection of the one book to be translated
include up-to-dateness, size between 100 and 200 pages, relevance for
non-US readers.  The best would be if anyone knows of a book to come
in 1993 and how I can get in touch with the author or publisher.

Here is the book list and comments I have now:

Temple Grandin's "Emergence: Labeled Autistic" will give
many people an idea as to the perceptions of a person with autism.
                      Curtis Maurand <IP15217 at PORTLAND.BITNET>

"There's a Boy in Here" by Sean Barron
The Grandin and Barron books are geared towards the high functioning
autistic children.  What are good non-technical books focussing on the
lower functioning children?
                      Daniel Mont <D6M at CORNELLA.BITNET>

"The Siege: The First Eight Years of an Autistic Child" by Clara Park
"Mixed Blessings" by William & Barbara Christopher
"The Sound of a Miracle, A Child's Triumph Over Autism" by Annabel Stehli
"Nobody Nowhere" by Donna Williams
"Autism, Explaining the Enigma" by Uta Frith
"Autistic Children: A Guide for Parents and Professionals" by Lorna Wing
"The Ultimate Stranger: The Autistic Child" by Carl Delacato
                     Lynda Huggins <HUGGINS at MERLIN.NLU.EDU>

"Children with autism - A parents' guide" edited by M.D.Powers
                     Stefano Palazzi <PALAZZS at IMIHSRA>
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From:         Anne Pemberton <apembert@VDOE386.VAK12ED.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Helen's Gold Award
              "LNCJB@cc.newcastle.edu.au" at Nov 19, 92 12:18 pm

Carolyn, I *KNOW* you're proud of Helen!! Anne
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Oh, no, not THAT again.
And just when we had finally settle on a good working definition of "gasket."
Tim
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