From: sdoe@nmsu.edu (Stephen Doe)
Subject: Re: iq<->religion: connection?
Organization: New Mexico State University
Distribution: world,public
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:41:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.120715.22908@prime.mdata.fi> iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.073845.4935@nmsu.edu> sdoe@nmsu.edu (Stephen Doe) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec21.143854.6231@prime.mdata.fi> iikkap@mits.mdata.fi (Iikka Paavolainen) writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec20.021251.1@acad2.alaska.edu> atdhb@acad2.alaska.edu writes:

>>>[BTW, what about putting some of this into the FAQ?]
>> 
>>Ask mathew about that; he's the keeper of the FAQ.  I'm willing to lay
>>10 to 1 odds though that he'll find the same objections to this I do.
>
>I don't think that Mathew's opinions are much changed by your outbursts. But
>I'm not expecting him to agree with me or the person from Alaska. You're
>just hindering our talk.

I think that for mathew to include this in the FAQ, he'll want
something more than your "sincere observations," especially with
people like Onar Aam running around with "sincere observations" that
contradict yours.

You've already admitted you have no real proof.  Give it up.



>>>>My circle of friends, like yours, ranges from highly-gifted to
>>>>dumber than a stump.  The most intelligent--and some are Mensa
>>>
>>>I thought some years ago about joining Mensa, but I just haven't
>>>brought myself to do it. I once went to a low-level IQ test, and
>>>my IQ went out of the chart (the chart top was IQ 170). No, I
>>>don't wish to boast, just to substatiate on the context.
>>
>>OOOOOh!  AAAAAAH!
>>
>>Actually I don't know what my IQ is exactly.  I took the test in
>>school, but never saw the results.  Must have been pretty good,
>>because I was always at the top of my class.  
>
>"Top of my class"?? Hohoho. Sorry, I couldn't stop laughing. Surely, most
>people know that being top of your class means nothing about your IQ.

In my school, they used IQ measures to place people in advanced class
sections.  I guess in your country it's only used to boost one's ego.

>>
>>Does IQ serve any purpose other than placement in such an environment,
>>and as an ego boost to such as yourself?
>
>Well, what does it serve to you?

Nothing.  It seems pretty meaningless to me.

>>

>>>As time passes by, technology improves and per-capita incomes and standards of
>>>living rise, people are getting more and more intelligent. Ultimately, religion
>>>will disappear altogether, and it will be laughed at just as we laugh at the
>>>superstitions of the middle ages (witch ducking for example).
>>
>>People get *more* intelligent with higher technology?  Or does the new
>>environment just force us to utilize the intelligence that's already
>>present?
>
>Better methods of teaching, requirement to understand what the technology is
>about.

That's education and training.  Says nothing about one's native
intelligence.  You are a seriously confused individual.

>>>
>>>It would be nice to see some stats made from the population of USA or Europe,
>>>for example, and see exactly how this correlates (it does correlate, that is
>>>for sure).
>>
>>Well, then look them up!  What are you waiting for?
>
>Do you realize, that you are nothing but a nuisance to this conversation?

Yeah, asking you to confirm claims that are apparently woven out of
gossamer and moonbeams must be so annoying.

SD
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