HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nestor+@cs.cmu.edu (Nestor F Michelena)
Subject: Re: J-1 or H-1? is my wife being staved again?
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:13:02 GMT

In article <By1Ln9.2z9@cs.psu.edu> kalin@math.psu.edu ( kalin ) writes:
>
>My wife is from Spain and she has a tenure track, but she is still
>on the PT portion of her F-1.  She has been told by the person in charge
>of these things that it's easier ( for whom ?) to get a J-1 instead of 
>an H-1.  Though I am not an expert, I doubt this is smart, judging from
>the fact that I've seen people try to switch to an F-1 from a J-1.
>
>Any comments?
>
No way. J-1 is for students or *visiting* scholar. People on a tenure
track position get the H-1, and then the PR, before getting tenure.

Nestor
>
>regards
>kalin
>
>--
>For them it's a tank, for STRIX it's a sitting duck..
>Bofors Weapon Systems
From: car-a@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: I'm here `8)
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:14:12 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

I'm listening in on this channel just to see exactly what an
Omnipotent Overlord actually is...


 
Chris Reece.

"...one should never throw the letter Q into a privet bush, 
unfortunately at times this is unavoidable."
						Douglas Adams
"Relax, no doubt the Universe is unfolding as it should be"
						Evan Dando
"...Worlds may change, Galaxies disintegrate, but women will
always be women"
						James T. Kirk
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From: tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thanatos)
Subject: Re: YAQOTD
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:20:31 GMT

In article <Bxv8vM.2v8@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester) writes:
>
>"Bagels can be an enormous force for good or for 
>evil. It is up to us to decide how we will use
>them."    -- Daniel M. Pinkwater

"A flute with no holes is not a flute, and a donut with no holes is a danish."
							- Caddyshack 


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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: Re: listeners?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:08:34 GMT

goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>So we now have listeners.
>WHAT THEY BLOODY BLUE BLAZES ARE WE S'POSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT?
>There's a question for you, jester.

whatever you want to talk about concerning world politics
like bush`s mom dying, clinto visiting DC the last few days...
world economics...the us trade embargo possiblity of french goods..
the yogoslavian uprisisng...et al....

Jester
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Subject: QOTD
From: csteffen@hotspur.gac.edu (Craig P Steffen)
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:56:37 -0600

Quote of the day:

"Listen to that rubbish!  It doesn't even start with 'I wish!'"
                                                                   -goblin
                                                                 LABYRINTH

Craig Steffen
Wielder of the Grand Unified Field Theory
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: QOTD
From: csteffen@flash.gac.edu (Craig P Steffen)
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:14:35 -0600

OK, all you happy listeners.  There hasn't been any actual traffic on this  
newsgroup except for people announcing that they are listening.  Last year  
January, I started posting a quote of the day every day; my goal was to  
see how long I could go without repeating a single source.  I made it  
until April 22, only repeating sources a couple of times when there was a  
special reason to.  

Just for the sake of posting something every day, I think I will do that  
again.  I won't use any of the quotes from last year, so they will be all  
new (I will repeat sources, otherwise I wouldn't have any left).  

So...just what you have all been waiting for:  Craig Steffen's quote of  
the day tour II: '92-'93 school year.  

Quote of the day:

"Victor, why are you testing me?!?"
"I'm not.  I'm testing the machine. [machine indicates 'clear']  It  
works."
                     -(can't remember characters name) and Victor Vacendak
                                                                  FREEJACK

Just out of curiosity, what did everyone think of this movie?  If you  
havn't seen it, you are missing one of the few movies that are on the same  
par as the STAR WARS [all rise] trilogy.  

comments, questions, suggestions, corrections (God forbid I get a quote  
wrong), flames to:

      csteffen@nic.gac.edu

Craig Steffen
Wielder of the Grand Unified Field Theory
From: wsimms@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Bill Simms)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Another Happy Listener
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:24:10 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

Hello Everybody!!!!!!
	You advertising worked on me.... Be prepared for another happy
listener!

			Bill Lee Simms, Jr.
				a/k/a Lightning
				a/k/a Blue
				a/k/a Quinton
				a/k/a Q
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: Re: Jester's looking...
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:11:53 GMT

goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester) writes:
>>goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>>>Monty python went for a road trip and look where I wind up?
>>on my pet newsgroup..how cute....
>you know I can't stay away from you when i'm on the computer...

so i noticed..next you will be following mE TO BED EVERY NITE
<damn caps lock>

>>>Jester, I hope you appreciate all I had to do to get this newsgroup
>>>back on our college's newsfiles.
>>I do, I do...now all we need is some real news traffic....
>i can advertise...

so can i...but i have been lazy...but maybe i should start toadvertise again/
with it being this slow.

Jester
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From: fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie)
Subject: WHERE AM I?
Organization: Bradley University
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:10:46 GMT


	Okay, so what is this group all about?

--

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Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: THE SADDEST DAY IN U.S. HISTORY
From: phygod72@nic.gac.edu (Phil )
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:29:00 -0600

In article <1992Nov14.013507.4208@cheshire.oxy.edu>  writes:
} In article <83523@ut-emx.uucp> wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester)  
writes:
} >In article <1992Nov9.100744.2198@gacvx2.gac.edu> phygod72@nic.gac.edu (Phil  
) writes:
} >]You mean you don't know what happened on September 12, 1975?  My God, and  
you  
} >]call yourself a history major!!!  That is the beginning of the end of the  
world  
} >]as we know it!!!
} >
} >Most of my classes have been in the Fall of the Roman Empire and European
} >Middle Ages plus one American History class which is getting us slowly but
} >surely into the Civil War.
} >
} >I'll take a wild guess, though. Is that the date of Elvis' death?
} >
} Is it maybe the day Jimmy Carter was named the democratic candidate for
} president? (That's right around that time....)


No no no, sillies...as Mr. Johnson just said, it is some idiot's birthday.  Of  
course, this idiot is sort of a celebrity (on a sort of local scale)...does  
this help?
From: goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: JESTER--LOOK!!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:36:16 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

HEY THERE!!!!!

is anybody out there?

Monty python went for a road trip and look where I wind up?

Jester, I hope you appreciate all I had to do to get this newsgroup
back on our college's newsfiles.

Love always, and I can post here too now!!!!!

Gina

P.S. Want to have an election for President of our new newsgroup?
From: goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: listeners?
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:02:15 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

OK.
So we now have listeners.

WHAT THEY BLOODY BLUE BLAZES ARE WE S'POSED TO BE TALKING ABOUT?

There's a question for you, jester.

Lovingly, in a *good* way---
	Gina
From: 2mt3rudinb@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: DTOQAY
Date: 20 Nov 1992 03:55:01 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2mt3rudinb@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

"Like ain't all beer and skittles, and more's the pity; but what's the odds
so long as you're happy?"--George du Maurier
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: comment on this please
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 04:37:19 GMT

        On October 2, Los Angeles County authorities attacked en masse a large
ranch owned by a reclusive multimillionaire in the Santa Monica mountains
in (get this!) Ventura County, based on aircraft evidence that marijuna
might be present.  They burst into the house, seized his wife, and then
found him in the bedroom with a gun.  Shot several times and killed him.

        They looked desperately since they had all the papers ready to
seize the property, but couldn't find marijuana or anything else.

        Ventura County was not informed in advance.
        His wife is filing suit.

How do you like them apples?

Jester
SOGDAC
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I am the thing that goes bump in the night...
I am the battery that are not included...
I am feeling really stupid.
From: goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Jester's looking...
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:59:45 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <By031K.EGp@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester) writes:
> goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>>HEY THERE!!!!!
> 
> you don't have to shout so loud....
> 
I'll whisper in your ear then...

>>is anybody out there?
> 
> yes.....a few listeners.....
> 
>>Monty python went for a road trip and look where I wind up?
> 
> on my pet newsgroup..how cute....
> 
you know I can't stay away from you when i'm on the computer...

>>Jester, I hope you appreciate all I had to do to get this newsgroup
>>back on our college's newsfiles.
> 
> I do, I do...now all we need is some real news traffic....

i can advertise...
> 
>>Love always, and I can post here too now!!!!!
> 
> oo..i feel tingly all over.......

you should, after all it's me that's here...
> 
>>P.S. Want to have an election for President of our new newsgroup?
> 
> nope........I am bjmccall@cco.caltech.edu
> are undesputed rulers here....due to us
> actually forming this newsgroup.
> 

Ok. Fine with me. You lead here, I'll lead a.f.m-p. OK?

> Jester
> SOGDAC

Gina
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From: 2y16mulsoffr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: WHERE AM I?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 17:47:00 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2y16mulsoffr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

In article <fletch.722513446@camelot>, fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:
>
much useless drivel deleted

       "Jesus Saves!!!  (stuff about apostles deleted)
      BUT GRETSKY SCORES ON THE REBOUND
       
       SAVE EARLY, SAVE OFTEN!!"

-WONKO, HIGH CHAMBERLIN OF MYOPIC TROLLS AND CROCOSTIMPIES, AND PURVEYOR OF 
FINE GREEN SOAPSTONES THROUGHOUT THE NINE UNIVERSES
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Subject: Re: WHERE AM I?
From: djohnson@osric.gac.edu (Daniel P Johnson)
Date: 23 Nov 92 07:50:10
Organization: Fill is a dope
In-reply-to: fletch@camelot.bradley.edu's message of 23 Nov 92 10:10:46 GMTLines: 9

In article <fletch.722513446@camelot> fletch@camelot.bradley.edu (Alan Lurie) writes:


.Okay, so what is this group all about?

Apricots.


Dan aka Helpful as all 'git out
From: bjmccall@cco.caltech.edu (Benjamin John McCall)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: JESTER--LOOK!!!!
Date: 22 Nov 1992 04:13:57 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester) writes:

>>Monty python went for a road trip and look where I wind up?
>on my pet newsgroup..how cute....

Ex-QQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQQ me?

Your pet newsgroup?  Ha!

>>P.S. Want to have an election for President of our new newsgroup?
>nope........I am bjmccall@cco.caltech.edu
              ^^^^
>are undesputed rulers here....due to us
>actually forming this newsgroup.

Well, while you are not me, the spirit of your sentence is much appreciated :-)
-- 
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SEDS President, Technical Projects Coordinator
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: YAQOTD
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:28:36 GMT

"The only place that different social types can genuinely get along
 together is in heaven."
        -Christian Slater, "Heathers"

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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: YAQOTD
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:06:46 GMT

"Life is like playing a violin in public and learning the instrument as one    
goes on."--Samuel Butler                                                       
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: YAQOTD
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:11:25 GMT

"You people veer dangerously close to sanity. But fortunately, you never quite
make it all the way there." --Harlan Ellison on MIT (and to anyone else who
was in the MIT Chapter of the Yale Precision Marching Band at the Harvard-Yale
game of '82 [not the balloon, those were the *other* guys], happy 10th
anniversary from Fearless Leader)

"I'll torture a poodle with anyone.  I
don't care if it's fuckin' politically
wrong."      - Al Jourgensen
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Newsgroups: alt.overlords
Subject: Re: JESTER--LOOK!!!!
Date: 20 Nov 92 05:53:43 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>HEY THERE!!!!!

you don't have to shout so loud....

>is anybody out there?

yes.....a few listeners.....

>Monty python went for a road trip and look where I wind up?

on my pet newsgroup..how cute....

>Jester, I hope you appreciate all I had to do to get this newsgroup
>back on our college's newsfiles.

I do, I do...now all we need is some real news traffic....

>Love always, and I can post here too now!!!!!

oo..i feel tingly all over.......

>P.S. Want to have an election for President of our new newsgroup?

nope........I am bjmccall@cco.caltech.edu
are undesputed rulers here....due to us
actually forming this newsgroup.

Jester
SOGDAC
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: YAQOTD
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:11:46 GMT


"Bagels can be an enormous force for good or for 
evil. It is up to us to decide how we will use
them."    -- Daniel M. Pinkwater
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Newsgroups: alt.abortion.inequity,soc.women,talk.abortion,alt.feminism,soc.men
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Back Again To Father
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:34:53 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In <1992Nov20.013749.21885@zooid.guild.org> Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>
>These so-called "paternity suits" legally enable a man who is unwilling to be
>a parent, to be forced into 18-24 of inedentured servitude.  Notice also that
>there is no such thing as a "maternity suit" which would force the same fate
>upon women.

It's my understanding that a paternity suit is merely legal acknowledgement
that the man is the father of the child.  If so, isn't the concept of a
"maternity suit" somewhat ridiculous?  (That a paternity suit might be a
prerequisite for child support is a separate matter.)
--
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From: beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver)
Subject: Re: Biological Reasons
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:02:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.071652.100100@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>In <By35nM.3JK@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov21.023623.153981@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>>>In <BxzDx5.IMu@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:

>>>>the abortion argument is about reproductive freedom for *women*.
...
>But, assuming the couple wanted to get an abortion, the man is worse off as
>well as the woman if abortion were illegal.

Yes, but see below: you omit other possibilities.


>In <By35zD.3x3@cs.psu.edu> beaver@castor.cs.psu.edu (Don Beaver) writes:

>>Actually, the idiom isn't really appropriate:  one is prepared to
>>cut off someone else's nose.
>
>It *is* appropriate, because it will hurt many men, also.

And it would restore the noses of those men and women who are against 
abortion.  (Talk about idioms getting out of hand...)


>>Choice for women -only- is a bad deal for men.
>
>Taking away additional choice from everyone helps nobody.
>
>I don't disagree that the current situation is a bad deal for men.  If you
>say, "Help me make the world a better place", I'm behind you.  If you say,
>"Help me make the world a better place, or I'll kill these widows and orphans",
>I'll think you're pretty sick and need to be stopped regardless of whether or
>not I think your cause is good.

I don't know why you need to resort to images like killing widows
and orphans to make your point.  (BTW, it demonstrates a bit of 
implicit sexism.)


>I see taking away choice as hurting *everyone*, both men and women (although
>women more).  Do you agree?

You are focused on men and women who *want* to abort.  Does that
include "*everyone*"?

If taking away female-choice caused a strong reaction that put
reproductive freedoms in place for men and women, would that be 
"hurting *everyone*"?

Don't forget, both "sides" rushed to claim defeat after the PP v. Casey
decision.  Political movements are strengthened by opposition and
desperation.

(To avoid the type of debate I had with Adrienne: I'm arguing pragmatism,
primarily; perhaps you are arguing principle.)

Don
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Newsgroups: alt.abortion.inequity,talk.abortion,alt.feminism,soc.men,soc.women
From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Back Again To Father
X-To: MICHAL LEAH PERI
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:12:00 GMT

peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri) writes...
MLP> A question for those support mandated husband notification:

Okay, I'll bite...


MLP> Do you think a wife should be required to tell her husband that she's
MLP> pregnant always, or only when she is going to abort?

First of all, I don't think that the wife should be required to tell *anything*
to anyone.  I have already stated that counsellors and/or doctors would make a
better judge of a given situation.  And if the woman feels that she would be
endangered, then (at least under the Pa. law) there would be no notification.
(Still, as I have already said, I think that there should be *some* sort of
method, though not overly excessive, to confirm such claims, since a woman
could hypothetically become pregnant through an affair, then tell the doctor
"I was raped by a stranger" in order to avoid the husband finding out about it).

Second, I think that it would be silly to be required to inform a husband that
you are pregnant.  Of course, if you were intending to keep the child and send
him part of the bill for 18-24 years, it might be a good idea to tell him about
it...

MLP> (Deletions...)

MLP> What if she plans to give it up for adoption (so that there's no question
MLP> of child support)?

Yes, I *do* think that the father ought to know if a child who is partially
his, is about to be adopted.  He just *might* wish to be the child's custodial
parent if the woman doesn't wish to.

In other words, I only support notification in cases where the child/foetus will
be affected in some way.  The mere fact of pregnancy does not in itself affect
the child/foetus.

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