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From: audley@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Christopher D Audley)
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal
Keywords: Peace and Quiet : -)
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:06:30 GMT

In article <tlm.718249912@scl1.al.iastate.edu> tlm@iastate.edu (Dr. T.L. Marchioro II) writes:
>                  ... perhaps I can offer a better solution to Louis' original
>question --- i.e. a solution with pagenumbering, headers, etc. which runs on 
>any NeXT --- which at least "calms the waters" on one aspect of this 
>question.  Why not have everyone put their documentation in troff??

Why not just use PostScript.  Authors of documentation can use any word
processing/page layout program they want and save it as PostScript.  Its
not like people are typically going to want to be able to modify documentation
they receive.  The original author can retain the document in whatever format
he wishes for latter modification.  

Every NeXTstep program has the ability to create PostScript files and every
NeXT can read them.  Why does there seem to be resistence to using it as the
standard format of documentation?

Chris

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.software
From: verket@venice.sedd.trw.com (Paul Verket)
Subject: Re: NS3.0 Info - ManPages target in Digital Librarian
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 local 1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:57:42 GMT

Garance A. Drosehn (gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu) wrote:
: I suspect there might be a benefit from the new structure.  You could  
: replace the old directory with a link to the same directory on the 3.0  
: CD-ROM drive (thus freeing up space on your hard disk), and yet the  
: *searches* from Digitial Librarian would still be looking and an index which  
: is on the hard disk, so they'd be just as fast.  I haven't tried this idea,  
: though it seems plausible.

I've done this, that is put in symbolic links to the CD for the documentation
files while keeping the index files on the hard disk. It works quite snappily
and saved a fair amount of disk space.

Paul Verket (NeXTmail ok)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: beaucham@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (James Beauchamp)
Subject: optical disk problem
Summary: OD spins down frequently
Reply-To: J-Beauchamp@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:06:08 GMT
Keywords: optical disk


After 1.5 years of casual use, I am suddenly experiencing a problem with the
optical drive on my NeXT cube. Often when I access it, the drive spins down. 
It eventually spins back up again, and I can usually complete the operation,
but this spells trouble for sure! 

Is there an easy fix? Is it just a dust problem?

Jim Beauchamp
From: lacsap@plethora.media.mit.edu (Pascal Chesnais)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: ISDN-kit -- Does it exist?
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:30:16 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

In article <1992Sep27.182056.1091@rhein-main.de> vhs@rhein-main.de (Volker  
Herminghaus-Shirai) writes:
> 	How many and which plugs does it have on the NeXT side?
1 DSP port
> 	How many and which plugs does it have on the line (wall) side?
1 ISDN, 1 POTS
> 	Can ISDN and POTS be concurrently accessed?
yes I belive so
> 	How high is the system load when transferring stuff over ISDN/POTS
dunno have not measured
> 	How fast is the POTS modem stuff?
There is no POTS modem software provided by NeXT or Hayes...  Instructions
say the interface will do modem fax-modem with 3rd party software
no mention which third party.
> 	Is Modem / Fax / Answering possible with ISDN/POTS?
I use it with POTS...  I would imagine all this is probably
up to the person who writes the Modem / Fax / Answering machine
software.  I use it for answering machine
> 	Is the DSP available when the ISDN Extender is hooked up
> 		/ running / transferring data
Have not tried.
> 	Why did the guy from NeXT talk such strange stuff, or,
Dunno
> 	Why did I get him so terribly wrong?
Dunno

The reason my response is so incomplete is that I have been
using the interface only for a short period at home.

pasc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Fed Up!
From: smithw@physc1.byu.edu
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:57:26 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University

Fed Up?  Well, I'm pretty down on the way the cube has been
marked for slow extinction.  It they are going to do it,
I wish they would just get it over with instead of killing
it little by little.  I bought one back in the 0.8 days
with the idea that it could provide some significant
expansion/speed when those brilliant gurus at NeXT finally
put it all together.  Instead, they put it out the door.
Course, there aren't many of us old timers left to worry
about-  now hand me ma cane and I'll skeedaddle on outa here...
-Bill

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pascal@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Pascal Gaudette)
Subject: Re: CopyPath under 3.0
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:28:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.214607.29246@socrates.umd.edu> fletcher@socrates.umd.edu  
(Charles Fletcher) writes:
> The service utility CopyPath doesn't work under 3.0 and
> won't compile. Does anyone hawe a fix yet? 
> 

I use Stuart 2.4's Copy Filename service which does the
exact same thing. You can assign it a keyboard shortcut
using Preferences.

Hope this helps,
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Pascal "The Rascal" Gaudette       pascal@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca
MacNUG president                      | *NeXTmail encouraged* 
graduate student, McMaster university | Je ne suis pas infaillible.
Physics and astronomy dep.            | Vive le Quebec LIBRE!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: burchard@horizon.math.utah.edu (Paul Burchard)
Subject: Re: Spurious DMA interrupt messages on '040 Cube
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:22:46 GMT

In article <12539@optilink.UUCP> brad@optilink.UUCP (Brad Yearwood) writes:
> Does anyone recognize the following console messages as being indicative
> of something going bad in the Ethernet interface of an '040 Cube?
> 
> 	en0: transmitter not ready
> 	spurious DMA interrupt
> 	Spurious DMA interrupt - state = 1000000 @ 2000110
> 	Spurious DMA interrupt - state = 1000000 @ 2000110
> 	spurious DMA interrupt
> 	The network is disabled or your computer isn't connected to it.
> 
> Brad Yearwood   brad@optilink.com   {uunet, pyramid}!optilink!brad
> Petaluma, CA

Yes.  I had the exact same thing happen when there was a flaky device on the local network spewing out garbage.

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From: anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mac disks
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:13:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bvo5rB.69K.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


Anyone else having problems ejecting mac diskettes?

-anwar
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From: lbrahm@denver.cba.du.edu (Lans Brahmantyo)
Subject: Re: How Slow is NeXTSTEP 3.0 w/ 8 megs ram?
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 04:46:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.203803.12888@terminator.cc.umich.edu
srosie@ftp.ifs.umich.edu (Steven S. Rosenblum) writes:
> > Well, the subject says it all.  I was wondering if anyone's loaded
> > 3.0 onto a 68040 cube with only 8 megs (sniff) of memory?  How
> > slow should I expect the system to run compared with 2.0? 

It is so very very slow... it is almost unbearable. A lot of users are  
complaining about the slowness already. On our 20 MB and 32 MB machines, the  
speed reduction is almost minimal although you can still see.  NetInfo  
operations, however, is a lot faster than 2.1.

I think that NeXT should not even produce 8MB configuration anymore. Spare some  
money to buy more RAM (at least 16 MB).


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From: insignia@netcom.com (Insignia Solutions Inc.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SoftPC with ADB keyboard
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:36:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.f4+pccg.insignia
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


SoftPC 2.05 has problems with the ADB (Apple) keyboard on Nextstep 3.0.
We have a patch for this problem.  The patch is only applicable if you
are trying to use SoftPC on a NeXT running NextStep 3.0 with a ADB
keyboard.  

I have submitted this patch to the following ftp sites:
sonata.cc.purdue.edu
cs.orst.edu
The name of the patch is ADB_patch.compressed, to decompress the file all
you have to do is double-click on it in the file viewer.

If you are not able to get the patch from the above mentioned ftp sites,
we can send you a floppy diskette.  To receive the disk contact Vickie 
Gonsalves at 415/694-7622.  For any other problems with SoftPC, contact
Technical Support at 415/694-7694.

Thank you for your continued interest in our products.

Sophia Jones
Insignia Solutions - Technical Support

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*Sophia Jones insignia@netcom.com*   Insignia Tech Support (415) 694-7694
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:58:02 EDT
From: <F0O@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: How do I access the command line?

HI!

   I'm fairly new to using the Next, and I've been trying to access the
command line, but can't figure out how.  Can anyone give me some pointers
on how I do this?

                                                             [Tim]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: sowa@netcom.com (Erik Sowa)
Subject: CDPlayer.app
Organization: Wahoo 5
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:45:44 GMT


Having hard drives at both scsi 0 and 1, I have not been able to get
CDPlayer.app to find my CD player (scsi 2 and position 2), as the
release notes indicate. The Public Window Server autolaunch trick, no
security risk for my standalone machine, does not work for me, either. I
tried running CDPlayer inside gdb, and obtained the following errors:

cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 2
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied
cdutil: findDrive: Ioctl SGIOCSTL failed: 7
cdutil: findDrive: Permission denied

Maybe this will give some SCSI guru out there an idea. cdutil might or
might not be the utility cdaudio.util in /usr/filesystems/cdaudio.fs.
I'd love to patch CDPlayer or cdaudio.util or whatever to make this work.

I'm guessing that the '2' is my cdrom, and the 7 is the cpu, but I don't
really know beans about this.

-- 
Erik Sowa (sowa@netcom.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: Playing Audio CDs
Organization: Demon Internet Services.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:36:28 GMT
Originator: paul@seer.demon.co.uk

In article <717915282snx@nuguk.demon.co.uk> paul@nuguk.demon.co.uk (Paul  
Beaumont) writes:
> Is it possible to play an audio CD through the internal speakers of the  
NeXT?

This has been commented on here recently.  I think the answer was no.

Paul
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Tel: (0494)671501                           paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228                            76711.451@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: montyb@alpha.aosg.gsf.dec.com (Monty C. Brandenberg)
Subject: Re: AUUUUG! December ship on July order!
Organization: AOSG
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:53:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.171805.29275@linus.mitre.org>, wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon) writes:
|> 
|>     Well I just got the word from my local NeXT resellor:  The NS3.0/
|>     CD-ROM bundle that I ordered in early July will not ship until mid-
|>     December.  I only have on thing to say about this:
|> 
|> 	Aaaaaaaaaaaauuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!

I suspect that the problem lies with your reseller and not with NeXT.
I ordered the 3.0/CD-ROM bundle hours before the end of the special
$695 offer and I installed it yesterday (and it arrived days before
that).  Looks like some other entity dropped the ball....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: 72011.10@compuserve.com (Mitch Alland)
MMDF-Warning:  Parse error in original version of preceding line at gate.demon.co.uk
Subject: Optical disks for sale!
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:35:47 +0000

Having sold my Cube, I have three mint, unused 256 MB NeXT optical disks that I
would like to sell for $170 or best offer.  I'll pay for shipping by UPS second
day c.o.d.  If you're interested please let me have your address.

--Mitch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Need Reformatting Guidance
From: d_mc%McCube.tucson.az.us@arizona.edu (Don McCollam)
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:06:35 MST
Reply-To: d_mc%McCube.tucson.az.us@arizona.edu (Don McCollam)
Distribution: na,local

I have a HP 97548S hard disk which is formatted at 512 bytes/block.  I  
would like to do a low level reformat to change it to 1024 bytes/block.
If any of you have done this, please send me e-mail.  I've talked to the
TheFormatter folks.  They can't help.  I'm hoping this can be done; and  
even better, somebody has already done it!

Thanks

Don
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: NT / NeXT trivia
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 03:41:34 GMT

Larry Blische writes
>> We'll probably have to buy a special
>> new version of SoftPC. That's why NeXT can promise that
>> the ability to run Windows programs will be there, but
>> become coy on details.
> 
> Not only would it be "a lot" of work, but it just might
> be illegal too.
> 
> I'm not a lawyer, but I can't imagine that anyone could
> get away with selling their own implementation of Windows,
> running on the native hardware, without being subject to
> the "Look and Feel" litigation of todays computer software
> business.  It is ok to BUY MS-DOS and MS-Windows to run
> under the SoftPC emulator but is it ok to write a look-alike
> for these programs?

As I understoood it (and I've been wrong before), nobody was going to  
write look-alikes (why would one _want_ to?) - they were going to  
provide a way to run the actual DOS + Windows apps (much like  
Executor right now lets you run Mac app).  There was even mention of  
paying MS license fees for something or other that would be needed to  
accomplish this (my memory is getting fuzzy).

Not a lawyer either, but if it can be made to work, it sounds kosher  
to me.

--
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University
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From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Mathematica- can't get our passwords
Date: 26 Sep 1992 22:57:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: moica.berkeley.edu

In article <Bv69y0.Hu7@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
enders@bolshoi.cc.misu.NoDak.edu (Todd Enders) writes:

>It seemed to me that the e-mail option NEVER worked. (even under
>2.1) (worst of all - it didn't tell you that it didn't work)

This is true.
The only thing it does is to create a file containing the info in /tmp
directory.  You can paste in the file content into Mail.

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Date: Mon,  5 Oct 92 15:18:36 MDT
From: yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal
Keywords: Peace and Quiet : -)


In article <1992Oct5.190630.26539@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, audley@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Christopher D Audley) writes:
>In article <tlm.718249912@scl1.al.iastate.edu> tlm@iastate.edu (Dr. T.L. Marchioro II) writes:
>>                  ... perhaps I can offer a better solution to Louis' original
>>question --- i.e. a solution with pagenumbering, headers, etc. which runs on 
>>any NeXT --- which at least "calms the waters" on one aspect of this 
>>question.  Why not have everyone put their documentation in troff??
>
>Why not just use PostScript.  Authors of documentation can use any word
>processing/page layout program they want and save it as PostScript.  Its
>not like people are typically going to want to be able to modify documentation
>they receive.  The original author can retain the document in whatever format
>he wishes for latter modification.  
>
>Every NeXTstep program has the ability to create PostScript files and every
>NeXT can read them.  Why does there seem to be resistence to using it as the
>standard format of documentation?

My guess is that this is twofold:  (1) someone would have to set up DL so
that it can index PS files.  To my knowledge (which may not be complete...)
right now, indexing PS doesn't work the way you would want it to.  Even so,
you wouldn't be able to easily open the PS file to the page where the word
you searched for appears...or, for that matter, find the next word.  So, it
would seem to me that until DL and Preview get better, you lose a lot by
going to PS format.  And, (2) PS files are very big compared to, say, a
WriteNow document.  They can be stored compressed, but then you don't have
access to the info inside.  (What would be great, though, is to set things
up so that a ".psZ" file would be zcatted into Preview...hmmm...)  Those are
the reasons that are most obvious to me; I'm sure others can add to the list.


Later,
-Don Yacktman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: musical!sam (Sam Przyswa)
Subject: Re: NXFax with Supra Modem
Organization: - Rock'n Jazz BBS - (The Music Land)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:48:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.023627.25143@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> perkins@cps.msu.edu  
(Stephen Perkins) writes:
> I downloaded the NXFax demo driver and tried it with my Supra
> modem.  However, I was unsuccessful in my attempts.  The modem
> would dial the other fax machine but then it would never complete
> the handshakes.  Unfortunately, the only other fax I have access to
> is the one at Kinkos.  It is possible that my modem is just not
> able to talk to their machines.  Has anybody had better luck than
> me??
> 
	I use the NXFax (registred) driver with the SupraFax V32bis, but I had  
some problems with the demo version, just well configure the gettytab as it  
write in the help file, and activate the driver with the PrintManager, I had  
to do this two times, before it done (I don t know why) The only one problem I  
have is, I have to disconnect the driver in the PrintManager to send/receive  
data in Vxx modes, and I received this message from Supra Corp.:

The short answer is that this version of the driver doesn't offer data/fax  
transparency for the SupraFax modem. We are hoping to introduce that feature  
in an upcoming release, but it will likely be several weeks at minimum before  
it happens. In the meantime, you will have to disable the fax software (start  
PrintManager, choose the Supra modem in the device list, select Configure,  
select "Unavailable", press OK) before using the data.

	That s all, see you.

		Sam
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: todd@liveware.com
Subject: Did NeXT anticipate the CD ROM Drive shortage, maybe
Reply-To: todd@liveware.com
Organization: Liveware Corporation   Fort Collins, CO.  USA.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:36:07 GMT

After following the thread about NeXT delaying CD Drive shipment
even further I can't help but think they knew there was going
to be a problem on quantity.  My reasoning (maybe flawed) is
due to the offer they made to User Groups to purchase a drive
and CD for a low price of $452 or something.  This was based
on the requirement that users who paid and where members of a
particular group participating in this 'deal' would be able
to upgrade with this user group drive.

Now I think the deal was a good one, but at the same time
it also seems to be the attempt was to cover as much as possible
with a 'limited' resource pool (ie drives).  It makes some
sense to me to connect that with the current shortage and point
a hard finger at NeXT about this issue.  They must have known
also due to their 'just in time' policy about manufacturing.

Just my $.25 worth.

Regards,

Todd Nathan
Liveware Corporation
<todd@liveware.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re:  Audio CDs on CD-ROM Drive
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 05:06:01 GMT

In article <Bv3o9G.FGw.2@cs.cmu.edu> ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio)  
writes:
> 
> If I've got both a CD player and a DAT player, and I copy a CD onto
> DAT *FOR* *MY* *OWN* *USE*, that's illegal?  That's not reasonable.
> If I were to copy a CD for someone else, sure, that's piracy and it's
> illegal.
> -- 

Ever heard of SCMS?

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From: jporter@picard.ksc.nasa.gov (John Porter)
Subject: OD under 3.0
Organization: NASA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:35:57 GMT

I seem to remember back when 3.0 was just an apple in our collective eye (no  
pun intended.  well, not too much)  that there were mutterings the the Optical  
Disk would no longer be supported.  I just upgraded and my OD seems to work  
just fine.  Am I missing something here?  It wouldn't be the first time.