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From: bill@verdix.com (William Spencer)
Subject: Re: America's Cup Results for April 2, 1992
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:35:25 GMT

tarkkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lauri Tarkkonen) writes:
>Don't you think that this business with switchable slots and helmsmen
>make mockery of the whole business. Somehow I feel that Bill Koch tries
>to be too smart and suddenly he finds out that Dennis Conner has outsmarted
>him because he happened to but the wrong boat in the wrong slot and but the
>wrong helmsman (himself) in it?

My theory is that the A3 team isn't really concerned about locking out 
Dennis in the semi-finals. The important thing is collecting data. The best
thing for them is to know how good the players and boats are going into the 
finals and the Cup (and nobody wants to win the finals and lose the Cup).
Remember that Kansa is still under evaluation and that Dennis and S&S are the
best trial horse.

Bill S.
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: wwalker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker)
Subject: Re: Power on AC boats
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:00:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.123830.28517@rsd0.rsd.dl.nec.com> 
dave@rsd.dl.nec.com (Dave Rogers) writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.200749.21857@bnr.ca>, sreid@bcarh561.BNR.CA 
(Stuart Reid) writes:
> |> Until yesterday I didn't realize that there were hydraulics
> |> on board, so I guess there must be power.
> |>  
> |> I am curious to know what systems are powered and from
> |> what source.
> |>  
> 
> The racing rules specifically prohibit any form of "stored energy" to be
> used during a race. The hydraulics are human powered.

What about all those electronic instruments we keep seeing shots of in the 
commercials?  Surely they require some power, and I haven't seen anybody 
continuously cranking a generator.

----------
Bill Walker - WWalker@qualcomm.com - QUALCOMM, Inc., San Diego, CA
All opinions expressed are mine, and do not reflect those of my employer.
"First thing we do, we kill all the lawyers." - Shakespeare
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: jfh@cs.brown.edu (John F. Hughes)
Subject: Re: Antigua to Maryland
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 23:00:30 GMT


Tim Colvin writes:
:I am helping to deliver a Kaufman (sp?) 47 from Antigua to Maryland this  
:May.  I have several questions:
: 
:1) Is it possible to rent safety equipment (such as, life-rafts,  
:E.P.I.R.B.'s, harnesses, etc.) from any one?

Yes. There's a place in Portsmouth, RI, called Life Raft and Survival
Equipment, Inc., that will rent you a liferaft. 
: 
:3) Is there any-where to rent a hand-held G.P.S.?

Probably best to find one to borrow with a deposit to its owner...
: 
:4) Has anyone on the group ever done a similar delevery?

My wife helped deliver her parents' boat in the other direction. It was
basically Hell. Here's why: rough weather the whole way (early October
delivery, as I recall), so she took some seasickness junk that they 
recommended. Well...its effect on her was nonstandard, and she was 
basically in a daze for almost the entire trip, until she decided she'd 
rather puke than be in a fog. Then things got much better. Small moral: test 
your drugs before you need to use them for real. I hate to think what would 
have happened had she turned out to be allergic to them... 

-John
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: steve@bcrvmpc2.vnet.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Sailboat rental
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 12:47:30 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In  <1992Apr6.210334.12988@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>  tsai@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Jeffrey C. Tsai) writes:
>
>
> What does sailboat rental shop require from customer showing
> their sailing skill?
>
> I am talking about renting over nighter such as Catalina 22
> or similar size.

A written sailing resume or question and answer sheet is common.
One place made me sail upwind/downwind tack/jibe moor etc.

If you want the boat overnight, they are going to ask you questions
about your anchoring experience.  Don't make light of this one if
you haven't slept on an anchor you've set yourself.

Some places only check your credit ;-)  I rented a 21' sloop in San
Diego last summer and they didn't even ask if I could sail!

Most places are reasonable and just trying to protect their investment.

One other thing.  Small boats that don't cost too much are hard to
find for rent, at least here on the east coast.  The charter companies
usually start with larger boats.

Steve                   Steve Weingart        IBM Boca Raton
                        steve@bcrvmpc2.vnet.ibm.com

It's bad enough that I think these things, please don't think it's
my employer's opinion too.
From: mnelson@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: requests for info
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:27:07 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

re request for info:
Sailing books - check out Dolphin Book Club
They have many books on rules & interpretations
It may cost a bit to join ie buy 5 books later
but their initial bargains are bargains.
Re GPS and racing rules etc. I have found that
Sailing World has provided answers to almost
any question I've had.  Check their back issues.
SW had excellent articles on GPS in the last year
or so.  Prices are down to around $2000 US.
I'm sure that Cruising World and Sail also have
similar information.  Here in NZ, NZ Yachts is almost
as good.  These magazines are good(!) and the
subs are not all that expensive.

Cheers,  M Nelson; 'Textbook' RHYC, Hamilton, Canada
                   Hamilton, NZ (to 30/6/92)
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From: larry@pdn.paradyne.com (Larry Swift)
Subject: Re: Lets split rec.boats
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:17:50 GMT

Split it.

Larry Swift                     larry@pdn.paradyne.com
AT&T Paradyne, LG-132           Phone: (813) 530-8605
8545 - 126th Avenue, North      Gulfstar 37, aft cockpit
Largo, FL, 34649-2826           She's old and she's creaky, but she holds!
From: dwl@watson.ibm.com (David W. Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: radar
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:02:37 GMT
Reply-To: dwl@watson.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

The major RACONS I've seen are mounted up on major offshore bouys and
a couple of lightships. I think the idea is to provide a clearly visibly
labled point on the radar display of vessels approaching these major
bouys. For example, I recall a couple of RACONS on the approaches to
NY from offshore, the appoaches to the Ambrose traffic seperation scheme...

David W. Levine      -- IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center
dwl@watson.ibm.com   -- (914) 784-7427 

My Opinions, IBM's hardware. -- 
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From: rpw@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ray Wagner)
Subject: Si-Tex, EMS, AH, DM
Followup-To: rec.boats
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Distribution: north america
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:25:49 GMT

Information ping:

   If anybody can send me the phone numbers for SI-Tex,
    Electonic Marine Systems, Autohelm, and/or Data Marine,
     I'd be much obliged. I need some info on their plotters
      and GPSs.

--ray


-- 
Ray Wagner
                                Computer Science Department
     rpw@cs.virginia.edu         University of Virginia
                                  Charlottesville, VA   22903
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: wwalker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker)
Subject: America's Cup results for April 12, 1992
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:24:57 GMT

America's Cup results for Sunday, April 12, 1992, from the San Diego 
Union-Tribune.

CHALLENGERS resume racing April 19.

DEFENDERS

Conditions:  Wind:  10-11 knots.  Direction:  northwest, shifting 15 
degrees to the left on the first leg.  Seas:  2-foot swell with medium 
chop.

America^3 defeated Kanza, retired.  Bill Koch made an effort to even the 
crews for this crucial intramural.  Koch drove America^3 and Bill Campbell 
drove Kanza while Buddy Melges stayed ashore.  Kanza won the start away 
from Dave Dellenbaugh and led breifly going up the first weather leg when 
Campbell tacked away.  When the boats came back together, A^3 led ... and 
pulled away although the winds were climbing into Kanza's 10-knot-plus 
range.  On the first reach, Kanza's mast ram [a hydraulic ram used to 
adjust the mast's fore and aft position below the deck, and thus adjust 
mast angle] broke, forcing the boat to withdraw [it also took a chunk of 
the deck with it and threatened a bulkhead structure that supports the 
keel, but the Cubens were confident it could be fixed overnight].  A^3 
thus won the first berth in the defense finals, although all three boats 
tied with 5 scored wins.  A^3 won the first berth because it had no wins 
carried over from previous rounds in its slot.  Kanza and Stars & Stripes 
will sail off [Monday] for the second spot.

Schedule:
April 13:  Sailoff between Stars & Stripes and Kanza for last finals 
berth, 12:15 PM.

Standings:
              
                  Scored wins (includes bonus wins)
                  |    America^3
                  |    |    Stars & Stripes
                  |    |    |    Kanza
                  |    |    |    |
America^3.        5        2-2  3-1     
Stars & Stripes   5   2-2       2-2
Kanza             5   1-3  2-2

Kanza entered this round with two bonus wins based on points acquired by 
Defiant and America^3 in first three rounds.  Stars & Stripes received one 
bonus win for second-most points.  America^3 was placed in slot with zero 
wins.

----------
Bill Walker - WWalker@qualcomm.com - QUALCOMM, Inc., San Diego, CA
All opinions expressed are mine, and do not reflect those of my employer.
"First thing we do, we kill all the lawyers." - Shakespeare
From: kstuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kenneth Stuart)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Old Gas in Tank
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:48:09 GMT
Reply-To: kstuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kenneth Stuart)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Well, I have been reading the news here about the possibilities of problems
arising from old gas in boat tanks.

However, it may be of interest to the group to know that for the past
40 years that I, my father, and my uncle have all owned various boats
ranging from 42 foot down, and none of us have EVER drained the previous
year's gas from the fuel tanks.

With all of the years and boats involved,  we have  NEVER  had a problem
arising from burning of the old fuel.  (Of course, this is not to say
that the problem can't arise).

It is my understanding that the breakdown of gasoline is promoted by
high temperatures, such as summer heat, and that little breakdown occurs
during the winter.

Usually, I store my boat with only a quarter of a tank or less of gas.
Before starting up in the spring, I usually fill the tank before launching.

Anyway, the purpose of this posting is not to tell boaters not to drain
old fuel, but to allay fears if an individual might have a few gallons
from last season remaining in an unsiphonable tank.

FAIR WINDS AND CALM SEAS!

Ken Stuart
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: pkersale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Philippe Herve Kersale)
Subject: Re: Navy trash dumping
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 22:48:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.152246.18748@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron) writes:
|> And the Navy has an additional need to hide.  Ploping big chuncks of trash into
|> the water does them no good in war time (or so we presuppose).  The real
|> problem will be resolved by getting all of those pre 1980 ships upgraded or out
|> of the fleet.


Speaking about that, I remenber that in the Submarines (especially
LaunchMissiles Nuclear ones), it is crucial not to be seen. They solved the
problem by compacting the trash, incorporant some heavy stuff (bricks of steal)
so that the trash will sank and not goes up the surface. The problem is that, 
once it is compacted, it is less likely to be biodegraded, but at least, 
surfers or sailors don't have the impression of going into a trash field.

philippe
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: graemer@ssd.dl.nec.com (Graeme (Scamp) Robertson)
Subject: AC results by fax
Organization: Via NEC America Switching Divison.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 03:09:01 GMT

Sometime in the past someone posted a fax number that could be polled
for the latest information on AC results.

Does anyone have the number?
We have now got a polling capable fax and I would like to get
the info.

Thanks

Scamp

-- 
Graeme Robertson (Scamp)  |  graemer@ssd.dl.nec.com
NZ TSSC Ltd, Wellington,  |  (64) (4) 472-6947 (Telephone)
-
"New Zealand, a country where men are men and mountains are nervous".
From: STU@mwvm.mitre.org
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Slick 50
Date: 31 Mar 92 19:02:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: mwvm.167BBC575.STU
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102

>post by the gentleman with the MasterCraft whose name escapes me at the
 
I'm the "gentleman" (thank you!) with the MasterCraft whose engine blew to
a zillion pieces just after putting in the Slick 50.  It added about 300 RPM
to an engine that was having trouble because of salt water injestion.  Until
it blew, it sounded and ran wonderful with the stuff in it.
 
In hindsight, I think the Slick 50 raised the RPM above the limit the
engine would stand (or it was ready to blow anyway).  I put the stuff in
both my diesel (Yanmar) and my new MasterCraft with a 351 Ford with no
problems.  In both cases, I noted some improvement - the yanmar seemed
quieter (it uses so little fuel I can't really tell), but the Ford improved
the RPM about 300 (again).
 
This time, the MasterCraft/Ford was propped to stand the additional RPM so
there has been no damage.
 
One word of advice - be VERY CAREFUL not to let the extra power/speed/RPM
from the Slick 50 cause you to exceed redline and blow your engine.  Other
than that, it seems worth the $$$.   /Stu Bell
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: mfish@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Michael Fish)
Subject: Re: Winch lube
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:21:07 GMT

>Article: 9809 of rec.boats
>From: jfh@cs.brown.edu (John F. Hughes)
>Subject: Winch lube
>Date: 6 Apr 92 15:36:28 GMT

>I've been cleaning and re-lubricating my winches...
>(1) How much goop should I put on there? Just enough to provide a film on all
>surfaces, and tiny bit more, or should it be like wheel bearings, where I
>would lay it on really thick, i.e., pack the case completely with grease?
>(2) The Barlube tube says "Do not use on pawl springs". This naturally lead me
>to ask "What *should* I use on pawl springs?" 
>Any suggestions? 
>-John

John,
	From Don Casey's _This Old Boat_, which I'm enjoying and finding
useful:
"...Coat all the parts and surfaces - except the pawls and the ratchet 
notches - with a light coat of grease.  Pack the bearings with grease,
but not excessively.  Lightly oil the ratchet mechanism - the pawls
and the notches - with machine oil.  Do *not* use engine oil; the
detergents in engine oils will eat into the bronze parts of the
winch..."  p. 140.  [Same procedures for the windlass]
Michael
From: wtjones@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Bill Jones)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:13:35 GMT
Subject: Stay Adjustment??
Organization: HP Network Measurements Div, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.boats

Can someone give me a source or the information on the adjustment of
mast stays?  I have a '64 Columbia Challenger 24 that needs the spreaders
replaced (wood).  I will need to adjust/tune the stays. Thanks

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From: edd@gvlf2.gvl.unisys.com (Ed Dougherty)
Subject: Re: BVI IN JULY, INFO WANTED
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:46:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.132247.302@cs.brown.edu> jfh@cs.brown.edu (John F. Hughes) writes:
>In article <167C5F6BA.STU@mwvm.mitre.org> STU@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
>:Provisions in Tortola are very easy to get - and surprisingly inexpensive.
>
>I did not find this true, but then perhaps we didn't find the right
>  ... stuff deleted
>100% right about the bread.
>
We found most food easy to find, about the meat, our favorite game was
I bet you can't guess what this is,(or how many legs it had). :)

>:Take charts with you.!!.  The charter company provided some charts - and
> ...
>A good point. We were given a little flip book guide book that was quite
>helpful, but no "real" charts at all. Mostly we were within sight of wherever
>....
>-John

The 'Virgin Island Cruising Guide' is very good and accurate but I made
sure to take along my 'Chart Kit for the Virgin Islands', this may be
a little of over kill but made for a very enjoyable trip.

Ed Doc
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: zatyko@cis.ohio-state.edu (donald richard zatyko)
Subject: Latitude 38
Originator: zatyko@mussel.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:23:39 GMT


  A few weeks ago someone posted a message that said Latitude 38
  would be a good place to look for a crewing job. 
 
  I have called every magazine shop and bookstore in Columbus and 
  am unable to find the publication.  I even looked in a Key West
  store recently.  

  Anyway if someone has an old recent copy maybe they could send
  it to me.  I would pay for postage of course.
 
  Thanks.
                                                      __
                                                     (  )
                                                      ||
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  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   _    ||    _  ^^^^^
    Don Zatyko     (zatyko@cis.ohio-state.edu)  | \   ||   / |
    The Ohio State University                    \ \__||__/ /
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From: moise@tesla.mitre.org (Moise N. Solomon)
Subject: Re: Laying down rubber in San Diego
Organization: The MITRE Corportation
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 16:53:30 GMT

In article <STEPH.92Apr2124424@candide.uchicago.edu>, steph@cs.uchicago.edu (Stephen Wilson Bailey) writes:
> 
> The rubber bands are all broken before they leave the spinnaker, so
> the birdies won't have to deal with the ``six pack massacre'' problem.
> Steph
> 
I think that ingestion of rubber bands by fish and birds could cause
them to become very sick, if not die of starvation.

I was watching the ESPN AC coverage last night, and they claimed that the
spinnakers were tied with yarn.  If this is true, I wonder if it is a
synthetic fiber or some natural fiber that would biodegrade easily.

Moise Solomon

SHOCKWAVE
J/24 #4112   
msolomon@mitre.org     my mac
moise@tesla.mitre.org  my unix
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: fallavol@fred.nas.nasa.gov (Michael A. Fallavollita)
Subject: Sextant WANTED!
Keywords: wanted sextant
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:42:28 GMT
Summary: Subject says it.
Distribution: usa

Does anyone have an old sextant that they would like to sell?  My wife and
I are in the process of looking for our first boat, and I've been studying
celestial navigation in the little spare time I have.  My boss just gave
me a book he used, and some tables, but I don't have a sextant!

If you have an extra you'd like to sell, please drop me a line.

Thanks.

Mike Fallavollita
fallavol@corvus.arc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Subject: The *Farnella*
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:12:25 GMT

 had a chat with the Information officer at the Survey and, yes, the
*Farnella* is chartered from the British under a lease that will expire 
this year. The S.P.Lee, the Survey's own ship in the Port, is about to
be returned to the Navy, so they'll soon have that rather small, ex
whisky running ship of uncertain age as their only vessel in the Bay.
Unless, of course, they intend to recommission the *Warden Johnson*,
the Party Boat that used to make the run to Alcatraz twice a week. The
Port iospretty busy right now. They've finally gotten around to dredging 
again, there's a salt barge in town and powdered automobiles are being
poured on to another barge. Blessing of the Fleet this weeek-end (my
boat can sure use a good blessing), and the California Tall Ship will
be in town. Opening of the season. Me, I've been sailing quite often,
but there's something quite mysterious about the way that for most people
sailing can only be done when the Season is Officially Open. Had some
pretty good wind this week-end, and PEEP managed to give a good asccount
of herself with her revitalized recut main.

						Francis Muir

francis@sep.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Subject: Re: Winch lube
Organization: Public Health Research Institute (New York)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 12:22:28 GMT

bsmith@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Smith) writes:
> Does anyone have any good tips (Do's and Don't's) about pulling a winch
> apart.

	The classic piece of advice is to do one of each pair at a time.
That way, if you can't figure out how to put the first one back together,
you still have a fully assembled one to examine.  In my experience, the
only tricky part is to be careful you examine the orientation of the pawls
and pawl springs before you take them out.  They look more or less
symetric, but they are not; the springs usually have one flat side and one
bent side, and it matters which way they go back in.

	Before you start, call the manufacturer.  They can probably send
you an exploded drawing showing how it all goes together.  You might also
want to buy a maintenance kit from them.  Often, with mechanical objects
like winchs, there are a few small parts (like springs and bushings) that
the manufacturer recommends you replace each time you take the winch apart;
a new set of springs should only run you a couple of bucks.

	Here's a good story.  When I got my boat, the 12-year old
secondary/halyard winches would barely turn.  I took them all apart the
first winter, but no matter how I cleaned or lubed them, they didn't get
much better.  I called the manufacturer (Barient) and they said the problem
is that the plastic drums had probably swollen over the years and I needed
to re-machine them to such-and-such tolerance.  They then offered that if I
would just send them up to Barient, they would re-machine them for me, no
charge.  That's what I did and they work great now.  Talk about a company
that stands behind their product!
-- 
roy@alanine.phri.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Public Health Research Institute
455 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016, USA
"This never happened to Bart Simpson."
From: thatchh@hplsla.hp.com (Thatch Harvey)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 1992 23:56:00 GMT
Subject: Re: Salvage a rusty fuel tank???
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA