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From: maureenw@sco.COM (Maureen Wilkes)
Subject: Re: why i watch movies
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:24:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.212837.22157@daimi.aau.dk> rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:
>eric.walker@channel1.com (eric walker) writes:
>
>
>I see this a lot: someone not liking a movie simply because the 
>characters are not people you would want to have living next door.
>Why is that so important? I don't go the theater to see nice people
>do nice things to other nice people. 


There's a difference between characters that aren't nice, and 
characters you can't sympathize with.  You can show me the nastiest,
evilest person in the world, but if I don't have a reason to care what
they're doing, then I don't have a reason to be sitting there (other
than a full bag of popcorn).  I can care what they're doing because
I care about who they're doing it to, or because they have some sort
of human shortcoming that makes them accessible, or because they're
so cleverly wicked I have to give them credit for it.
But my sympathy for a character is not necessarily in direct proportion
to their niceness.

                       Maureen "Don't Call Me Nice!" Wilkes
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From: willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams)
Subject: Re: "Stirred not shaken" or "Shaken not stirred" ?
Keywords: Bond
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:12:01 GMT

(Erik Lawaetz) writes:

>I need help to resolve a bet concerning James Bond.
>The question is, does  HE  (not other characters in the Bond movies)
>want his Martini
>	"Shaken not stirred"  (2)


The answer is (2)
From: rm34@quads.uchicago.edu (Robert James Mohammed Monk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What do you call YOUR remote?
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:10:17 GMT
Reply-To: rm34@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Media Maven

'Round these parts, the remote is referred to as the Terminator.  Something
displeases me  *POW*  it's gone.  

My girlfriend from New Jersey sometimes refers to it as a clicker.  Makes me
crazy.  I always look around for those push-button counters, you know the ones?
As you go through a door or something you see some flunky pushing the thing,
click, click, click....

Brother Robert
From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Upcoming movies (was Re: What do you call YOUR remote?)
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 06:16:33 GMT

>_1492_

I've seen trailers that said that Columbus "discovered America".  I'm not
impressed.

>_Last of the Mohicans_

Oh boy -- another movie about how terrible the natives were for being
upset with the europeans for killing them and desecrating their land.

>_Jurrasic Park_

Just like the @i(Alien) box, I'll believe it when I see it.
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From: wu@mdd.comm.mot.com (Philip Wu)
Subject: Re: Dracula
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:16:58 GMT

In <2722@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>          
>   I know that! That's why I said "inspired" fiction. However, Vlad
>Tepes (Vlad the Impaler) was NO vampire, just a cruel military leader to
>liked to impale his enemies on large spikes.

This may be off topic, but in the September issue of Previews magazine
(comics collecting/info), there is a bunch of hype/advertising about
Dracula.  They even have sample trading cards with pictures from the
movie in it....  I must admit this is looking to be pretty good.

Anyways, one of the t-shirts being sold is a scene in a field (sunset
or sunrise) where there are silhouettes of many men impaled on spikes.
(nice t-shirt for work...hahaha).

Just thought this might be interesting...

Phil Wu
wu@mdd.comm.mot.com
From: pilgrim@daimi.aau.dk (Jakob G}rdsted)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Question: Frankenstein, the true story?
Date: 16 Aug 92 00:32:32 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

kuehnel@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hans Kuehnel) writes:

>Hello everybody, 

>please excuse my ingnorance, but: What is the name of the novel/tale
>behind the Frankenstein movies? And is there a true story behind this
>novel? Where did the real Frankenstein live, where did he die?
>Was he german? What was his profession?

He was a doctor.(Sorry, couldn't resist)

>Any help is appreciated (mail it to kuehnel@physik.tu-muenchen.de) 
>I'll summarize answers to the list 
> 
>Regards, 
> 
>--Hans (K"uhnel, +49-89-3209-3766) 
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From: apj003@cck.coventry.ac.uk (James W Bottomley)
Subject: Film Title needed - Ben Gazzara/Robert Vaughan fans
Organization: Earlsdon Academic
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:42:31 GMT

I'm trying to recall the title of a made-for-TV US movie which I enjoyed
in the hope that I might find it on video some time. 

The picture starred Ben Gazzara as a New York drugs cop intercepting
an Italian mafia man in an NY hotel room, only to be told rudely by
a special investigator into police corruption (Robert Vaughan) to ditch
the case and hand over his man. Gazzara refuses and is eventually killed
following a chain of events. The final scene shows him slumped in his
police car in the street dying.

Vaughan is assisted by a large and rather mean looking prosecuter, the actor 
playing him escaping my memory. I can't remember much else of the film 
except that I liked it a lot. I've searched the usual film guides, etc and
can't trace it. Anybody out there remember it?

Cheers

Jim Bottomley
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From: abw@bucrsb.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:48:45 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Aug10.181145.24938@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> wtj@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (william.t.jensen) writes:
+
+2) The Gallant Hours - Made around 1962 starring James Cagney as Admiral
+		       "Bull" Halsey. Story about Guadalcanal.

And interesting as a war film since not a single shot was fired onscreen.


-- 
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Boston University      arc9arn@buacca.bu.edu   (cheap rates)
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From: neufeld@math.lsa.umich.edu (Russell Neufeld )
Subject: Casablanca Mistake
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 11:38:10 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
	I just saw Casablanca last night, (first time in a theater!  was great!), and I think I caught a mistake.  When Bogart is waiting for Bergmann
Originator: neufeld@wolverine.math.lsa.umich.edu


at the train station in Paris, it is pouring rain and his coat is soaking wet.  Yet when he gets on the train his coat is perfectly dry.  Ooops!  Hope this one hasn't already been talked to death.

	Russell Neufeld
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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:46:27 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <20576@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com> you@ems.cdc.com writes:
>In article <3738@cvbnetPrime.COM>, csroc@dime.prime.com (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2) writes:

*>|> Let's not forgot we're talking "BABES" in this thread.
*>|> Jodie [Foster] is a good actress, but unless you have a radically
*>|> different definition of "babes" than I do...you should not
*>|> mention here in the same breath as Virginia Masden, Kathy Moriority(Raging BULL)Marilyn Monroe, Michelle Pheiffer, etc.  Jodie is Not a Babe.

*>Boy! does he have a hangup on surface features, and blinders on all
*>aspects of women.

Not to mention a tough time differentiating between fact and opinion.
And hitting RETURN at the end of each line.
:-)


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From: joan@med.unc.edu (Joan Shields)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Wrassling Films (Was: Re: Barton Fink)
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:28:04 GMT
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine

In article <5582@transfer.stratus.com> jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.192851.7605@sol.UVic.CA> mmcalees@cs16.UVic.CA  
>(Michael McAleese (One of 'Those Dudes')) writes:

>>   One thing that was mentioned in Barton Fink that sort of rang false
>> to me was the idea of "wrassling films" as if they were a real genre,  
>> like westerns, for example.  I was sure such a genre never existed.
>>   I was wrong.
>>   In fact, there have been many wrasslin' films.  There's apparently 
>> even a sub-genre of female wrasslin' films!  

>Including the famous turkey, Wrestling Women meet the Aztec 
>Mummy.

Gee, I kind of liked that one - I have a copy of it on tape, it's the
version with a new music score.  Anyway, it was pretty good (in a tacky
sort of way) until the ending
**SPOILERS**


What happened to the sub-plot about the daughter being hypontized and did
the mummy/bat really die at the end?


Joan
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From: mjb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (M.J.T. Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: They Live - John Carpenter ???
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:44:49 GMT
Reply-To: mjb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

Can some please settle a little argument I am having with someone.
Was THEY LIVE a John Carpenter film. ie was it directed by him.
Any other info regarding this film is greatly appreciated.

Thanking you in advance.
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From: noah@astro.as.utexas.edu (Noah Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Unforgiven casting
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:44:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin
Originator: noah@astro.as.utexas.edu


	The actor playing the Schofield Kid (Jaimz Woolvett) appeared
to me to be the man who played The Kid in Alex Cox's spaghetti western
spoof Straight To Hell.

	Can anyone confirm or deny it for me?
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From: ala@fico.uucp
Subject: Re: Freshman Smarm
Reply-To: ala@fico.UUCP (Adryenn Ashley)
Organization: The Fair, Isaac Companies, San Rafael, California
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 21:05:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.200434.432@eos.arc.nasa.gov> shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum) writes:
>
>Didn't catch it either. Mythical? I think itz in Calif tho, since they were on a beach.
>
The name they used is Western Pacific University, although, IMHO it looked
a lot like Pepperdine.  (The proximity to the beach is about the same, and
the front lawn is almost identical).  Can't say for sure though, it's been
a while since I've been there.


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From: malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu (Manish Malhotra)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Ghandi (Was Re: terminator ii)
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:03:40 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <dogar.714172772@opal4> dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar) writes:
>
>As with many "historical" films, the end result is more fiction than fact.
>*Ghandi* was an especially distorted view of history that was designed to
>make Ghandi look perfect. The actual truth is always much more complex 
>than the celluloid truth.
>

Firstly, its "Gandhi" and not "Ghandi".
Secondly, what in your opinion were the facts distorted by 
this film ? I would not consider myself a great admirer of
Gandhi, but I certainly believe that the film did not
present a distorted view of Gandhi or the freedom movement
of India. Many did not and still do not agree with Gandhi's 
views and his peaceful ways. After all, an Indian killed him
finally. But that does not belittle his contribution to the 
freedom movement.  
 
This film is very well made.  Considering that it was made by
a foreigner makes the whole effort even more respectable. 
The only thing I did not like about this film was
the unjustified emphasis on the news reporters from 
"Time" magazine and something else.  

Manish
From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: 2 questions
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:58:16 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

In article <1830@nikhefh.nikhef.nl>, i14@nikhefh.nikhef.nl (Martin Los) writes:
|>Hi,
|>
|>Can somebody answer these questions:
|>
|>1. What is the name of the movie in which Bette Midler plays
|>   an Actress/Singer? I thought it was 'Beaches' or something ...
|>   Who plays the other female role?

   "The Rose", perhaps? Never seen Beaches.
               
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From: grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:59:35 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.


In article <1992Aug13.121740.16275@cbnews.cb.att.com> trb@cbnews.cb.att.com (tom.balent) writes:
>In article <12582@grayt> grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray) writes:
>>>>>7.  _Zulu_ - Michael Caine's first, one of his best.
>>>-- 
>>>
>>>I considered adding this one to the Best Musical List that was here recently.
>>Does anyone remember the later film entitled "Zulu Dawn" which
>>depicted the events which occurred to other British units the'
>>day before.
>>
>>Zulu Dawn was one of the first politically correct movies. It was
>>absolutely dull and tedious but very correct.
>>
>
>It was also accurate. And thus the problem with war movies that 
>try to show the war part...they are often confusing and boring
>(unless you know something about the battle in question, i.e. who the
>major players are, etc.).
>
>While you may think ZD was PC, it did in fact show what really
>happened, that the British thought a bunch of savages could easily
>be taken care of in a few short weeks (the Zulu War took much longer

I agree that this was the attitude shown in Zulu Dawn. However it
ws also the attitude that was displayed in Zulu.

Zulu was about ther clash of cultures. The clash between the British
and Zulu culures and the clash between the upper and lower clash
cultures which was taking place at the same time in the UK.

Zulu showed the clash of cultures in the opening scene in which the
Zulu maidens were being paired with the warriors. The British missionary's
daughter was horrified when she was told that the object that the maidens
were giving the warriors represented their virginity but at the same time
she was fascinated. During the battle scenes themselves, the British
officers realized that the Zulu general was using planning and tactics
and that the Zulu army was a highly trained highly disciplined force.
The British gained more and more respect for Zulu capability throughout
the battle until the Zulu were regarded as their equals. There was talk
at the beginning of savages but only talk of Zulu tactics at the end.

The famous scene of the duel of chants between the Welsh chorus and
the Zulus emphasizes this. This scene showed the equality between the
two forces. Welsh soldiers had been shown earlier to shirk duty, drink
and be generally slack. However under Zulu attack they had showed
courage and initiative. Like the Zulu they showed themselves to be
true, stalwart and valiant warriors. This also played into the
clash of upper and lower clash cultures. The men in the ranks were
regarded as lazy drunks by their officers. The movie showed otherwise

Zulu Dawn attempted to show the same thing but with absolutely no
subtlety. It showed endless scenes of British racism and British`
incompetence with little continuity and pasteboard characters.

Zulu ended with the salute of the Zulu general to a worthy adversary.
Zulu showed the dignity of cultures and individuals. Zulu Dawn offered`
PC cliches in a dull movie.

-- 
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From: garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson)
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Keywords: This is *BIG* in NYC, and it's only just begun
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:28:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.162050.9135@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> dick1@hera.uucp (25443-vaughn) writes:
>Allen's reputation in NYC is doing a free-fall right now.

On the up side, video rentals of his movies are going ga-ga because of the
scandal.

>Allen's strong desire for privacy has always been respected by
>the press.  No more. 

At least the TV stations have agreed not to show the video tape in which
Dylan claims she was abused.
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From: bew@brahms.udel.edu (Ben Williams)
Subject: Re: ** ULTIMATE MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Summary: What a babe?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:46:31 GMT


For the "ULTIMATE" MOVIE BABE (or should I say penultimate), in deference
to a recent thread, I nominate:

The Eraserhead Baby ---

    Those puckered lips...
    Those swimmingly-seductive eyes...
    That sexy gurgling....

Ben.

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bew@brahms.udel.edu

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From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: "Stirred not shaken" or "Shaken not stirred" ?
Keywords: Bond
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:36:21 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)


   It's "shaken, not stirred". Nothing else.

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From: braca2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (BRAY CHRISTOPHER)
Subject: Re: Vampire Myths (was: Re: Fright Night)
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 07:07:49 GMT

gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) writes:

> 	There's been a lot of talk about how the idea that vampires can trans-
>form themselves into wolves etc. was an invention of Bram Stoker's for his 
>novel _Dracula_.  In fact, there was a wide variety of vampire legends through-
>out Europe, and they vary quite widely.  However, a number of them do include
>the idea of teh revenant being able to transform itself into other forms such as
>a bat, a wolf, even a haystack!

Gypsy's used to believe that a vampire could not stand the sight of a dog
with 'angel eyes', or a black dog with white patches around its eyes.

Just in case you wanted to know.

hook
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REFRESH
Date: 16 Aug 92 05:38:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <5704@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner) writes:

>> Alien
>No, Alien does not fit that description.  The Alien is not even hurt
>seriously until Ripley pops him out of the airlock and turns the
>engines on him.

She thought she'd killed it in the explosion.  C'mon, you mean you
didn't jump when it tried to grab her from it's hiding place? ;-)

>> Terminator
>This, I think, is the one that started the trend.

I thought it was vampire movies.  Maybe not.

>Two other examples: Blue Steel (really, really weak on plausibility)
>and that film where Julia Roberts played that woman maltreated by her
>husband (sorry, only remember the German title).

Sleeping with the Enemy?
Sorry, never saw either one.


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From: daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (David A. Fleming)
Subject: Re: Bruce Lee's son?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:12:39 GMT

Anish Bharat Bhimani <ab4n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.movies: 17-Aug-92 Bruce Lee's son? Thomas
>Wong@nucleus.cuc. (272)

>>Now this could be interesting... Brandon Lee (which I assume is son of >Bruce
>>Lee) is staring in his own movie due out soon.. The trailers look interesting
>>if you're into these type of movies. 
> 
>>I wonder if he's as gifted(?) as his father.. charisma and physique-wise..
> 

>If I remember correctly, Brandon did a movie with Dolph Lundgren and Tia
>Carrere called "Showdown in Little Tokyo" last year, in which he played
>Dolph's naive cop partner as they took on the Yakuza. My roommate and I
>both commented on the fact that, even though Brandon was pretty cut, he
>looked like a twig next to Dolph. Maybe he'll get to shine a little in
>his own movie . . .

	I hate to admit that I like that movie, despite the occasional 
(OK -- frequent :-) stupid lines.  The funniest thing in the movie was
Lundgren's painfully bad Japanese -- fluent, I ain't, but geez...  Rambo
Japanese.  
	Come to think of it, one of Brandon Lee's lines in that one was
nominated for "Strangest Line in a Motion Picture" on the MTV Movie Awards.
("Kenner, just in case we get killed, I wanted to tell you...  You have the
biggest **** I've ever seen on a man.")

					Dave Fleming
					daf31428@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu


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