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From: primeaux@wham-o.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: The Devils revisited
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:56:36 GMT
Reply-To: primeaux@wham-o.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: wham-o.cs.utk.edu

Someone e-mailed a correction to my post concerning the novel
The Devils of Loudon.  Unfortunately, I lost the e-mail message
so I cannot give credit where it is due.  I had stated that the
novel was written by Thomas Huxley.  It was instead written by
Aldous Huxley.  Sorry 'bout that.  And (whoever you are) thanks
for the correction.

-- david
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: DARIO ARGENTO
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:29:46 GMT

In article <168487F14.PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty) writes:
>SUSPIRIA was reduced to 92 minutes from 97, INFERNO from 107 mins.
>to 83!!!!, TENEBRAE from 110 to 91!!!! and PHENOMENA from 120 mins
>to 80!!!  No wonder many of the critics find Argento's films
>incoherent.  I remember when I first saw SUSPIRIA in the theaters,
>it was the uncut version.  Two years later, SUSPIRIA showed up on
>cable in its butchered state.  Five minutes didn't destroy the plot,
>but films like DEEP RED and INFERNO made little sense when I saw
>them for the first time in truncated form.  Fortunately, video
>companies have released Argento's films completely uncut!
> 
Four Flies on Grey Velvet was barely released in the States, and I have problems
believeing that it was released uncut. Fangoria did an interivew/article on 
Argento about 3 years back, in which they detailed how his movies had been cut.
Only "Suspiria" has been released uncut. "Unsane/Tenebrae" is cut. "Deep Red"
is cut, and several scenes <notably the head squishing> have been optically
darkened. Four Flies... and Cat O'... have yet to be released. "Bird with
the Crystal Plumage" has had some sexual cruelty removed <its in the World Of
Dario Argento, though>.
Argento is also Cut in his native country, and almost everywhere else. Don't
be fooled by the box copy on the Jap laserdiscs. Most of them are cut, too.

				--Judex--
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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: rbalko@attmail.com (Wave Upon The Sand)
Subject: Name This Movie
Organization: AT&T BCSy S&PD FS/SI Dev MPS
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:41:35 GMT


"Keep tellin me about the good life, Elton, Cause it makes me puke"
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:31:21 EDT
From: Dave Whitman <RSNDWW@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Quote help

In article <16849BFDD.DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu>, DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon)
says:
>
>In article <1992Aug19.115628.16820@pbs.org>
>eyeater@pbs.org writes:
>
>>     I hope the net can help me on this.  From whence comes the line,
>>
>>                "It is BALLOON!"  ?
>>
>>
>>        I've heard the line many times (most recently on MST-3K), but I
>>     have no idea of its origin.  Anyone?  Anyone?
>>
>  Easy. That line is straight out of F-Troop. Don't remember the man's name
>who says it -- of the the Hakawi, though.
>

I can't attest to the F-troop reference (never watched it), but I distinctly
remember the line appearing in a version of "Around the World in 80 Days"
that was in the theaters perhaps 25-30 years ago.  I suspect it was a Disney
film, but couldn't say for sure.  Fogg is overdue on some leg of his journey,
and we see some local? native? looking astonished off into the distance and
say  "EEET ISSSS BALOOOOON!!!!!, as Fogg drifts into town in a hot air balloon.
************************************************************************
 Dave Whitman                * "Reality is what refuses to go away
 rsndww@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com  *  when I stop believing in it."
 standard disclaimer applies * - P.K. Dick
************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki  takeuchi)
Subject: Speaking of Ridley Scott...
Keywords: ecto
Reply-To: ttak@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:35:58 GMT

Speaking of Ridley Scott, didn't he do that "1984" Apple Computer
Macintosh ad?  Do you know where I can get a hold of that?  Is it
available anywhere as a QuickTime movie?

Also, how's Blade Runner?  I'm interested in seeing it.

BTW: Alien^3 = Alien^-3

Wasted Alien^$3.75.

Kenji Takeuchi
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: The Addams Family
From: Voodoo@kcbbs.gen.nz (Clarke Anderson)
Date: 23 Aug 92 20:13:31 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

So, what does everybody think??? Does TAF qualify for cult movie staus 
or not?? It certainly qualifies for cult pinball status :-)

Does anyone have anything like scripts, or any ideas whrere they may 
be obtained???

Any info at all would be appreciated. I presume there was the usual 
USA Hype Machine, and there was a series of interviews, "The making 
of ...." and the like? The yanks seem to be especially good at it :-)

Yeah, so.... come forth with info - please?! :-)

E-Mail liked, wanted, not essentail.

Voodoo@kcbbs.gen.nz
Trendy .sigs suck.
From: tfarmer@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Farmer)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Wall
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:06:30 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <Bt6yp8.63A@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Zych) writes:
>schweitz@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Schweitzer (W86)) writes:
>
>>Can anyone explain the ending of the movie "The Wall" (Bob Geldof) to me?
>>As far as I understood it, Bob is trying to break through the wall that is
>>surrounding him. At the end of the trial, the judge orders to 'tear down the
>>wall'. Does this mean Bob's objective is archieved? I hardly think so, 
>>"The Wall" isn't a movie to have a happy ending...

IMHO, Bob is building up a wall against the outside world.

Society has been oppressing him through the social pressures applied
through his mother, girlfriend, teachers. As a defence he has become
closed in, emotionless.

What does the wall crashing down mean? Perhaps it means that society
has won.

>>Who does understand this movie?
>
>b) needs to be locked up in a comfortable rubber room.

Oh! Yes please!

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From: Doug_Mitchell@next.com (Doug Mitchell)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Wall
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:01:23 GMT
Reply-To: Doug_Mitchell@next.com

In article <18AUG199222550745@apsicc.aps.edu> larson_s@apsicc.aps.edu  
(Shawn Larson) writes:
> I've personally figured out most of it, but the part that I have 
> absolutely no idea about is the part where he becomes a fascist leader.  
> Anybody have a clue on that one?
> 

I think that this is how Pink (i.e., Roger Waters, who wrote the piece)  
started to feel when he kept on seeing thousands of kids, night after  
night, coming to his shows and singing along with every song and  
responding with mindless fanaticism to everything he (Pink/Waters) did on  
stage. I think he was afraid that what the feelings of (most of) the  
audience towards him were no different from the feelings of a hysterical  
crowd of frenzied, fascist-loving patriots. 

The last time I saw Waters in concert, something amazing happened. In the  
middle of a set of songs from The Wall, Waters held up his arms in the  
hammer salute. Then, wouldn't you know it, just like in the film,  
thousands of kids held up the hammer salute in response. Waters turned  
away in disgust.

--dpm

--
doug_mitchell@next.com

"Don't give me any of that 'intelligent life' crap.
Give me something I can BLOW UP!"
From: ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Eraserhead
Keywords: Eraserhead Lynch pencils
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 15:28:45 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

pace@usace.mil (Joe Pace) writes:

> Any "Eraserhead" fans out there?
> 
> Joe
> -- 
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
> Joe Pace                                              UNIX/Networking Analyst
> US Army Corps of Engineers                                     pace@usace.mil
> Sacramento District                                     JPPACE@UCDAVIS.BITNET

     I am a general David Lynch fan... I never got to see all of Eraserhead,
but I saw enough to know that I got the most incredibly spooky feeling while
watching it.. Sort of what I got when Dennis Hopper did his whole "You get a
love letter from me, you're f*cked FOREVER!" speech in "Blue Velvet."


phluuke@maria.wustl.edu

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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Definition of Cult Movies
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:30:44 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <iroderic.713824504@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:
>In <1992Aug14.042229.21563@kum.kaist.ac.kr> wgcho@gorai.kaist.ac.kr (Wongyu Cho) writes:
>
>>'cult movie'. Can anyone give me the definition?
>>Wongyu Cho
>
>Cult movies tend to pull together certain familiar motifs or what Eco
>calls "inter-textual frames" which link the total narrative to other
>narratives.  Hence the familiar "I'll be back" of Schwarzenegger
>films.  Yes, there is a cliched quality to cult films but not in the
>sense of a simple flogging of a dead horse. (some of Ian's stuff deleted both
above and below but this part is what I want to discuss).

Another example of pulling together motifs in cult movies is "Night of the
Living Dead". The main motif is the racial issue (especially shown in the sour
relationship between Ben and Harry) which comes up in movies like "Ricochet"
(only here it is more pronounced as well as having more of a revenge thing
added in).
			Laurel
  
__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

Laurel A. Povazan                                "There is nothing there
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu                          in the dark that isn't
                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
 the avid horror fan!)                                 -Advertising line  
						        for "Cape Fear"
						 
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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: schweitz@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Schweitzer (W86))
Subject: The Wall
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:26:33 GMT

Can anyone explain the ending of the movie "The Wall" (Bob Geldof) to me?
As far as I understood it, Bob is trying to break through the wall that is
surrounding him. At the end of the trial, the judge orders to 'tear down the
wall'. Does this mean Bob's objective is archieved? I hardly think so, 
"The Wall" isn't a movie to have a happy ending...

Who does understand this movie?

Mischa Schweitzer (schweitz@fwi.uva.nl)
University of Amsterdam, Holland
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: Re: Aunt Julia (was Re: Delicatessen)
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 10:19:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.211309.30772@dante.uucp> mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) writes:
>That sounds wonderful, and I've never even heard of it!  Anyone with
>some information about its availability in the US?  Thus far I've
>not seen anything with Judy Davis in it that I didn't really enjoy.

Judy Davis is not in "Tune in Tomorrow...  AKA  Aunt Julia and the Scriptwriter"
as far as I remember. And if she is, it's a tiny role. Barbara Hershey is the
female lead.
								M.H.
From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Pet Semetary II
Keywords: Booger. Yeah, that's it, booger. Booger. Boogerboogerbooger...
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:07:17 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Aug20.231024.11247@wam.umd.edu> vampire@wam.umd.edu (Jack Dracula) writes:
>Just got back from seeing Single White Female last night, where
>at my local cinema I saw the poster for Pet Semetary II. (The line
>being "Raise some hell.") Looks ok, saw no real mention of the name
>of the King (Stephen, not Elvis.)

I've heard King wanted nothing to do with this film. He apparently read
the script and thought it was just awful (or something like that).

>What may or may not interest you kids is the stars. Listed first,
>Eddie Furlong, of Terminator 2 fame. Respectable. But what raised
>my adrenalin was the third name: Clancy Brown.

Could be interesting...
                                           -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki  takeuchi)
Subject: Invisible Chevy Chase, HORRIBLE?
Reply-To: ttak@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:02:45 GMT

I saw the Memoirs of an Invisible Man or whatever the title was
just recently on Amtrak. (!)

I'd read about it in Premiere, but I never knew it was avialable
on video already, since I never knew it had been in the theatres.
Was it ever it the theatres?

I found it to be PURTY BAD, especially after contrasting its
content quality to its BUDGET/Special effects quality.

In Premiere, I read that it was an attempt by Chevy Chase to
up his reputation, from a "cheap flick star" to a more sincere
and meaningful actor.  But this seemed to make this motive
OBVIOUS, as its plot and story didn't work with the cheap jokes.

Anyone disagree, agree, care?

Kenji Takeuchi
From: Philadelphia P.A. (Jesse Goldman)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Kafka
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:42:20 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Penn

In article <sbarnhar-180892125207@morril6t-4.micro.umn.edu>, sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu (Dr. Barnhart) writes:
> 
> 
> I liked it a lot.  It seemed to be a real departure from "sex, lies &
> videotape".  A little tough to pidegonhole Soderbergh based on those two
> films.  The only real problem I had with it came at the end, when Irons'
> Kafka character is in the castle.  Those scenes seemed too David Lynchish
> for                                        ^^^^^

>   The film was a parody of several novels by Kafka.  Especially  THE CASTLE
      (pardon me but I can't underline the title).  The style of the story-telling in the
      castle tried to embody Kafka's ability to make the absurd plausible.

                                                   Jesse

================================================================                 

                          -Who  is he to Hecuba or Hecuba to he 
                          >                                                           -Hamlet
================================================================
From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Speaking of Ridley Scott...
Keywords: ecto
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:02:05 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Aug19.143558.22354@midway.uchicago.edu> ttak@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Speaking of Ridley Scott, didn't he do that "1984" Apple Computer
>Macintosh ad?  Do you know where I can get a hold of that?  Is it
>available anywhere as a QuickTime movie?
>

Scott did do this commercial.  I have no idea where you can get
it. However the PBS series on the computer `The Machine that
Changed the World' showed the commercial, I think, in its entirety.
If it's repeated or available as a video (rental), you can check
it out there.




-- 
Tom Kuchar			  
kuchar@buast7.bu.edu		  -or-                      kuchar@plh.af.mil
Department of Astronomy		                     Phillips Laboratory/GPOB
Boston Univerity		                                  Hanscom AFB
From: ntraven@wuntvor.norman.ok.us (The Night Raven)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Frank's Love Letter scene
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 11:58:36 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

     I don't exactly know why I reacted that way, but I got just the spookiest
feeling.  I've had that same feeling the first time I saw Anthony Hopkins in
SOT Lambs and I got it pretty often when watching the first season of Twin
Peaks.  It's just a very uneasy, kind of "ooooohhh" feeling that things just
aren't right and oh man, something's gonna happen!    I thought Dennis Hopper
was brilliant and he brought the character off well.


phluuke@maria.wustl.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: The Devils
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:06:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.082141.17239@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sboiarsk@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sean L Boiarski) writes:
>I just saw _The Devils_ last night, has anyone else seen this flick?
>It's a very intense true story about the French Catholic church durring the 
>sixteen hundreds, with lots of interesting characters and imagery. I recomend 
>it, and would like to here what others think about its message, and delivery of
>the message.
>
>
>I aint got no sig

Do you mean the film by Ken Russell? If so, I doubt that it can be considered
a "true" story, no matter what the origins. Russells flair for image would
tend to get in the way, I think.
I have seen "The Devils" <Russells>, and it IS an intense experience, moreso
than his later works.

				--Judex--
From: spot@CS.CMU.EDU (Scott Draves)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: suspiria [was Re: Wim Wenders filmography request]
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:13:46 GMT
	<1992Aug17.175211.13835@aosg.gsf.dec.com>
	<1992Aug18.002614.17665@athena.mit.edu>
	<1992Aug19.170033.25109@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: spot@HOPELESS.MESS.CS.CMU.EDU


i recently saw _suspiria_, so i thought i'd comment.

i think it works just fine on a video screen.  i don't think it's a
great film.  certainly on a higher plane than standard stupid horror,
but not top-notch either.  with one exception: the sound track.  wow.
is it available?  who did it?  have they done other music/movies?
-- 
			consume
Scott Draves		be silent
spot@cs.cmu.edu		die
From: gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu ("Happy Fun Ball")
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Eskimo (minor heathers spoilers...)
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:19:27 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <crunch.714070290@camelot> crunch@camelot.bradley.edu (Randy Bloom) writes:
>Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov> writes:
>
>[>In article <56982@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Happy Fun Ball,
>[>gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu writes:
>[>>"You gonna pull a super chuck with that?" [after seeing Veronica buying the
>[>>corn nuts]

This is the correct line as far as I can hear.  If you really pushed it you
might get "chunk" insteaed of "chuck" but I'm 99.9% certain I had it right
the first time.

>[>>"Heather and Kirk were a shock -- but Martha Dumptruck?!?  Get serious.  She
>[>>dialed suicide hotlines in her diapers."

Ooops! -- that's what I get for reciting from memory.  Correction: "I mean
Heather and Kirk were a shock -- but Martha Dumptruck?!?  Get crucial.  She
dailed suicide hotlines in her diapers."

>[>These lines are not correct, at least not according to the
>[>shooting script I have.
>
>Well, they don't ring true with my memory, either.  I have no recollection
>of the "super chuck" line (although the line that follows is "I see you
>know your convenience-speak pretty well"), and I think it's "crucial"
>instead of "serious" in the other line.

I don't what's considered the correct source of quotes for this movie or this
newsgroup, but I have an original copy of Heathers.  For the sake of defending
myself, I *just* double-checked before I wrote this reply.  My transciptions
from my video tape may (of course) be a bit different from the original script,
and even if the words are right the punctaution is most likely off, as its a
matter of personal interpretation.

*Next* time I'll check before I reply to another quote request.
                       ------
Later,
Geoff

P.S. -- If there isn't one out there (and I find it hard to believe that there
        wouldn't be one already), would people be interested in getting a copy
        of the transcription of the entire movie (assuming I'm crazy enough to
        commit to such a task)?
--
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 || "Maybe its imaginary, I'd like to know. ||            sage.cc.purdue.edu ||
 ||  What's the world coming to, and where  || gfritz @--(       or          ||
 ||    will it go?" -- Kirsty MacColl       ||            mn.ecn.purdue.edu  ||
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From: ingria@bbn.com (Bob Ingria)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Definition of Cult Movies
Date: 14 Aug 1992 22:00:50 GMT
Reply-To: ingria@BBN.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com
In-reply-to: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca's message of Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:35:04 GMT

In article <iroderic.713824504@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:


   Umberto Eco has a really good discussion of cult movies in his book
   _Travels_in_Hyperreality.  His example is _Casablanca_ but just about
   any "cult" film will fit.

   ...

   He continues with a comparison between a perfect movie which restricts
   the viewer to a prefered narrative trajectory and one which is more
   open:

   "A perfect movie, since it cannot be reread everytime we want, from
   the point we choose, as happens with a book, remains in our memory as
   a whole, in the form of a central idea or emotion; only an unhinged
   movie survives as a disconnected series of images, of peaks, of visual
   icebergs.  It should display not one central idea but many.  It should
   not reveal a coherent philosophy of composition.  It must live on, and
   because of, its glorious ricketiness." <198>

I wonder how the emergence of VCR's would affect Eco's discussion.
Now we can ``re-read'' a movie everytime we want, just like a book.
Fast-forward allows us to skim, etc.

I wonder if there are differences in viewing/owning patterns between
cult films and others.  Do people buy classics but rent cult films,
for example?  Do they watch cult films in larger groups than with
non-cult films?

Maybe somebody should get Eco to revise his definition for the
VCR/Laserdisc ere.

-30-
Bob

``Eco, ma posso fare una domanda a te?''
[Umberto, do I may ask you a question?]
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: HELP
From: main@kenyon.edu
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:39:46 -0500
Organization: Kenyon College

Okay, I know you guys get this one all the time.  Sorry to offend, but I have
approximately one day left here then I won't have access to netnews.  I NEED
desperately a RHPS script WITH RESPONSE.  I had an address but I can't find it
now, if anyone can help me out I'd appreciate it.  


-Maggie May