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From: Scott_Leaf@mindlink.bc.ca (Scott Leaf)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Mom and Bigfoot.
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:19:16 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

John (Enquiring minds want to know) Winston if I wanted to read the Enquirer,
The World, The Star or any other magazine that publishes things like Madonnas
breasts found on Mars I would go grocery shopping like everyone else and
stand in a long lineup and hope the little old ladies in front of me were
paying by cheque!


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"Who is it Dear?  Oh it's a quaint little man from the village...something
about the reaping." Don't fear the Reaper, fear your government. Question
Authority before Authority questions you!  Have a nice day!
                           krusty@outb.wimsey.bc.ca
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
Subject: Re: Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:18:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <19904@mindlink.bc.ca> Scott_Leaf@mindlink.bc.ca (Scott Leaf) writes:
>How dare you call ST:TNG and DS9 Lowbrow!
>
>You quasi-intellectuals piss me off.
>
>The greatest contribution to society you have ever made is probably the
>message that I am replying too.  IF *you* don't watch TV then refrain from
>commenting on the above topic.
>
>I also find it quite rewarding that The Simpsons contributed to your decision
>to nix TV.  You really must have a good sense of humour, a regular Jerry
>Steinfeld! (or do you know who he is?)

  Of course; he's the guy who does the routines involving his
  dog ("It's that GUY!  He's home again!").

  Actually I love stand-up, and I don't try to flatter myself 
  into thinking it's "intellectually stimulating".  But when
  I want stand-up I either go to a club or I rent a video 
  where I can watch it for two hours without having to be
  interrupted every 6 minutes with ads for "Lee Press-On 
  Nails" and random musical numbers, as they do on A&E's
  Evening at the Improv, or have the comedian's best work
  censored because it involves dirty words or topics not 
  suitable for family viewing.  People like Redd Fox and 
  Richard Pryor have some great stuff that you will never
  see on regular broadcast TV, only on occasional and rare
  specials on expensive premium channels, because it's too
  "adult".   Which just goes to show again, that TV treats
  its viwers like children.   Like everything else on TV,
  TV stand-up comedy is only a pale imitation of the real
  thing. 


---peter


  
  
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: mpajula@phoenix.oulu.fi (Marketta Pajula)
Subject: Re: Astral Train Repair.
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:56:43 GMT





The astral train is under repair on my backyrd
O.Pajul.
From: oldham@ces.cwru.edu (Daniel Oldham)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Moon surface: No ETs
Date: 25 Jan 1993 14:49:16 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: king.ces.cwru.edu

After watching the NASA tapes on the apollo missions to the moon there is
one thing that really stands out. The surface of the moon has very little
erosion and the impact craters are billions of years old. The tracks left
by the astronauts will be there for millions of years and yet they did not
see any evidents of other tracks. This can lead to the conculsion that any
ETs skipped over the moon or any landing marks have not been found.
From: gilly!dave@quack.UB.com (Dave Fischer)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: THE DIVINE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:12:04 GMT
Organization: Flat Earth Liberation Front Against TV
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:

>All I have to say to this is that Rev. Ivan Stang, who owns the Church
>of the SubGenius, called Eckankar "The Stupidest Cult(TM)".  And HE
>KNOWS STUPID CULTS!
>							-- K.

No no no no no. You just have to know how to read it! A little filtering
with sed and reformating, and...


(1) ONLY LOWEST DOZEN (2)  INTERACTIONS  HIGHER LEVELS. (3) INDIVIDUALS
PERSONALLY , "SOUL TRAVEL". DANGEROUS THE DIVINE MASTERS OF THE UNIVERSE
COMPLETELY IGNORANT NOT 3:16 NOTWITH- STANDING. ALWAYS PHYSICALLY ALIVE AT
ALL TIMES, THROUGHOUT HISTORY, PERVERTING THREATS "ETERNAL DAMNATION"
DELETED RE NOTHING ANY INITIATED KIDDING THEMSELVES, DUPED MANUFACTURED
TOTALLY DECEIVING "AUDIBLE LIFE STREAM" "SOUND CURRENT", "THE WORD" 1:1-5,
RE "SOUL PLANE", NOT  LIVING (P.O. 27300; 55427).  "THE PATH OF THE
MASTERS" (R P.O. 242, CA 90247), 1939 "ECKANKAR--THE KEY TO SECRET WORLDS",
ANOTHER DEAD CONTINUE RE MISERABLE WISE UP!  RE-INCARNATION "HERE AND
HEREAFTER", , RE FACT OF LIFE, HYPNOTIC REGRESSIONS SPONTANEOUS RECALL
DREAM RECALL - DEJA VU - EDGAR CAYCE, EVEN SUPPORTING STATEMENTS FROM THE
CHRISTIAN BIBLE 17:11-13 REINCARNATION 9:1-2 POSSIBLY LIVED BEFORE?! ALWAYS
"KING JAMES VERSION". PER-VERSIONS! INTERESTS, TALENTS, PHOBIAS, PAST
LIVES. DROWNED PREVIOUS LIFE. AN IMMEDIATE DISLIKE PREVIOUS INCARNATION.
RE LAW OF KARMA (G 6:7, 13:10, .). FUTURE INCARNATION!  "2 COMINGS" ONE
AND ONLY INDIVIDUAL NOT WAITING IN VAIN.  PLANES OF EXISTENCE LOWEST AT
LEAST DOZEN FIRST TRUE HEAVEN, NOT ESP, 1972 INTERACTIONS SUB-DIVIDED.
SMALL LESS THAN 2000 YEARS AGO EARLY CATHOLIC CHURCH THREATENING RE SOUND
CURRENT BLIND FAITH BLIND FAITH GOOD FEELING TOTALLY DECEIVING). HEARING
"SOUND CURRENT" ("THE WORD", "THE BANI", "THE AUDIBLE LIFE STREAM"),
REINCARNATION MISERABLE WILL CONTINUE.  "SOUND CURRENT" "SOUL TRAVEL"
REPLACE UN- REPRODUCTION DISSEMINATION IMPORTANT ENCOURAGED ENJOY LARGE
SHARP NEEDLES VARIOUS ORIFICES EXCITING TV "SMALL WONDER".


------------------------ uunet!quack!gilly!dave ------------------------
================= Dave Fischer - Nature's Perfect Food =================
---------------------- dave%gilly@quack.sac.ca.us ----------------------
From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Give Me A Break!
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:52:07 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

In article <1993Jan26.145958.1@ccsua.ctstateu.edu> parys@ccsua.ctstateu.edu writes:
>About six months ago this was an interesting newsgroup.  Now it consists of
>science fiction and egos.  
>
>The possiblility that there could be life on another planet is not one that any
>of us would view as impossible.  
Oh, of course not impossible.  I would consider it pretty likely, as a matter
of fact.

>
>That they could travel here and watch us and want to examine us is also not
>impossible.   
Not impossible, but highly unlikely.  Really highly unlikely.  Really 
_really_ highly unlikely.  Well, you get the idea.

>
>What is impossible is the amount of bull that someone has to go through to read
>something on this board that might be pertinent.
>
Yeah!  There's all this UFO idiocy cluttering up the group!

>I'm sure somewhere on this vast network is a newsgroup for science fiction
>lovers.  Why can't that board be utilized instead of this one.  
>
This newsgroup _is_ for science fiction.  See the name: alt.alien.visitors
Now if that isn't obvious fiction, I don't know what is....

>
>
>This is supposed to be about REAL ENCOUNTERS not encounters with a televison
>set.
>
Are you saying that television isn't real?  It sure is real!  I'm looking
at one right now, on the other side of the room.  People see televisions
every day!  There's a rational explanation for televisions!  Televisions
are understandable, and they leave physical evidence of their existence.
Televisions are real.  Aliens are not real.  Simple enough.



--
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"Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit upon his hands, hoist the
 black flag and begin slitting throats."---------H. L. Mencken
Jason D. "corleyj@gas.uug.arizona.edu" Corley Claims Full Responsibility
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: ach@unislc.uucp (Andy Hutton)
Subject: Is Strieber still around?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:34:07 GMT

Has anyone heard from W. Strieber lately?  The last thing I'd seen from him
he apparently thumbed his nose at the whole UFO community and retired.  Even
though he was still claiming some high-level contacts with his 'visitors'.

Cryptically, he stated he would still be willing to correspond with those 
who had written him previously.  Maybe he finally experienced the *BIG* ab-
duction!  It would be nice if he would stay in touch with the rest of us. 

One thing we should try to keep is an open mind (and strict honesty) when
dealing with a subject as complex as UFO's.  The dividing line between 
objective reality and perception is very fuzzy in unusual situations like
those reported by Strieber.  Were his experiences actually UFO related?  Or
maybe that was merely the spin he was forced to apply to allow some rational
interpretation of what happened to him.  I do not subscribe to the claim that 
he was a bald faced liar or that he was crazy.  I know many would say
that money was his motivation, but why would he pick such a farfetched subject
and swear he was telling the truth?   He couldn't have known that COMMUNION was
going to be a bestseller when he wrote it.  Instead I feel that what he wrote
was a desperate attempt to relate to the rest of the world something that was
impossible for him to keep to himself.

In any case, it would seem that given the intensity of his convictions I don't
think he has dropped out as completely as he would have us believe ...


FRANK B.
From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Roswell Testimony
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:01:07 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	unglenie@ford.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J Unglenieks) writes:
	Let's say they were testing MANNED balloons as a recon
	platform or to set an altitude record and something went wrong
	and the crew was killed.  It would be very embarrassing public
	relations-wise if this go out.  This sounds like a plausible
	reason for secrecy.

... not really.  Manned balloons (as opposed to rigid airships) were
used in the years before WWII for research, as part of a joint
USAAC/National Geographic project (Explorer II reached 72,395 feet in
1935, for instance).  Balloon experiments continued after WWII (in
1960, for instance, Captain Joseph Kittinger *jumped* from a balloon
(with a parachute) from 102,800 feet as part of the aptly-named "Man
High" program).  The problem, for your assertion, is that we know
about all this (we also know about 'skyhook', and the CIA's
balloon-reconaissance program.)  (I am also fairly certain that the
balloon program had casualties, but cannot be sure with the references
I have to hand.)

    If the military were going to keep such things secret, would they
not have kept other such embarrasing things secret, like the YB-49
crash in June, 1948 (that killed Frank Edwards and 4 others)?

Charles

Source: Historical Dictionary of the US Air Force, Charles Bright,
ed., Discover Channel documentary, "The Wing will Fly".
From: u2nmh@csc.liv.ac.uk (N.M. Humphries)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Help find adress.
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:28:52 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

JOHN-ARILD STRM (jas@stud.hsn.no) wrote:
> Can someone find me the adresses to High-Schools in Kentucky. My sister goes 
> to school at one of them and I like to talk to her. I can use Email, netnews 
> and telnet.

--Have you tried using Gopher?
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     The Cursor, aka Nick Humphries, u2nmh@csc.liv.ac.uk, at your service.
  "People have started taking shotguns to UFO sightings. Kinda brings a whole
  new meaning to the phrase 'You ain't from 'round here, are ya?'"-Bill Hicks
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From: titan@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Titanium Knight)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: The Watchers --- BOOK!
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 03:22:31 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

I'm reading a book called "The Watchers - The Secret Design Behind UFO 
Abduction", by Raymond E. Fowler.  I would like to know peoples views on 
this book.  I'm on chapter 9, and it is EXTREMELY fascinating!  
 
Titan
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: mm@brl.mil (Mike Markowski)
Subject: Re: Roswell Testimony
Reply-To: mm@brl.mil
Organization: US Army Research Laboratory
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:03:47 GMT

In article <C1675J.1yF@apollo.hp.com>, nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson)
writes:
|>   Really big secrets have a way of getting out and NOTHING IN HUMAN HISTORY
|>   would be bigger than aliens at an Air Force or Army base.

I agree.  To study an extraterrestrial vehicle or crew would require a
large and diverse group of scientists and engineers.  It's very unlikely
that these would all be military sympathizers to the extent that they
would seal this off from the world.  Someone would tell his wife or best
friend or let it slip on his death bed, etc.

After so many decades the most likely reason an et vehicle could remain
secret is if something so big or so bad were discovered that it left no
doubt in anyone's mind that it should remain secret.  But in that case, we
should observe some major shift in governmental goals and policies, and
we haven't.  Consider NASA's continuing quest for a reasonable budget.

Secrets surrounding aircraft at night make us curious, but more shouldn't
be read into it than the known facts can support.

-- 
Mike Markowski
mm@brl.mil
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: 4D/life/Venus/etc (winton on lithium)
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:58:20 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

In article <74185@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
> Dear People: It was me that mentioned the 4th dimension. I'll try to 
> look around and see if I can find some information on the subject. 

John, John, John. You should know better to "find some information" on
a subject before you post on it! It really makes you look bad. You really
messed up this time. You suggest that you pretty much are making this all
up. Like I am not surprised, like, wow.


> I do remember the story about the catapillar that looked up at the  
> beautiful butterfly and said, "Boy you'll never catch me up in one 
> of those things.
> John Winston.

I don't remember this story. Reference?

-Garrett
From: u2nmh@csc.liv.ac.uk (N.M. Humphries)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Government coverups
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:26:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Michael Saleeba (zik@zikzak.apana.org.au) wrote:
> billp@mozart.amd.com (Bill Peterson) writes:

> >	1) Something crashed. The Air Force doesn't want us all to know.
> >	2) The Air Force STILL doesn't want us to know. (Almost 50 years
> >	   later).

> You see this sort of thing again and again, particularly in
> alt.alien.visitors - wild claims that the government or some part of
> it is trying to cover up information about UFOs. Now there's something
> about all this that doesn't ring true for me at all. WHY? I mean,
> what's the point? What do they stand to gain by covering it all up? It
> must cost them a lot of effort, so they'd have to have a pretty darn
> good reason to do it.

It's not a question of what they have to _gain_ from a cover-up, rather what
they haveto _lose_. If the governments publicly acknowledge the existence of 
UFOs there would be mass hysteria worldwide.

	Why? Let me put it this way. People will suddenly realise that all we
are are just little specks of dust when considering the universe. We're not 
very advanced in our space travel or our defenses, so when we hear about UFOs,
we usually deduce that the things flying them are very advanced compared to us,
therefore have the weaponory to destroy us at the flick of a switch. And, unlike
nuclear weapons, we have _no_ defenses against UFOs _whatsoever_. When the
public realise this, they will realise that any worry they have is absolutely
_nothing_ compared to the UFO threat and so will turn to crime because they'll
think "Sod it, the UFOs will get us sooner or later, so I may as well make the
most of the time I've got now". In short, they'll turn to anarchy.

	That's why there is a cover-up.

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  "People have started taking shotguns to UFO sightings. Kinda brings a whole
  new meaning to the phrase 'You ain't from 'round here, are ya?'"-Bill Hicks
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From: drwho@edwards.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Stonehenge Crop Circle
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:58:02 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: edwards.wpi.edu

In article <1jqfpeINN3mq@zikzak.apana.org.au> petert@zikzak.apana.org.au (Peter T.) writes:
>I posted an article here about this not long ago, so I won't go into
>too much detail as I hate typing.  Anyway one majour difference
>between the unexplained circles and the hoaxed ones, is that the
>hoaxed circles made by those two {their names escape me at the moment
>had straw which was broken at the base due to their bending. Whereas 
>the unexplained circles had straw which was bent in a nicely curved 
>radius {no brakes}.

>Cheers 
>Peter T.

A crop circle researcher (I can't remember his name-- he has posted a
few reports of his investigations to this newsgroup) mentioned that,
by simply walikng around in a circle, he and a colleague were able to
reproduce a typical simple crop formation.  The trampled stalks were
*not* broken, just bent.  So apparently, some plants break when
trampled, and some just bend.  So would everybody *please* stop
insisting that unbroken stalks are unnatural?  We have enough trouble
sorting through the facts as it is without these distracting little
falsehoods about details.

--E.V.L. (drwho@wpi.wpi.edu)  # "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, you see
a.k.a.:  The Eternal Newbie,  # before you a killer, and of the worst kind.
The Amazing Tubeman!,         # Madonna."
Murphy's Law Incarnate        # --Commercial for the movie "Body of Evidence"
Any similarities between what I say and what I mean are purely coincidental.
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: Scott_Leaf@mindlink.bc.ca (Scott Leaf)
Subject: Re: Philadelphia experiment
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:23:09 GMT

You said : I am  interested in finding out a bit more about the Philadelphia
experiment, I
didn't know which group to post to,
and since you mentioned it here, I thought I'd give it a go here.

Apart from the intention of the military to create a radar blanking system. I
know nothing about the
experiments or their outcomes.

Does anyone feel like shedding some light on this one?

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There actually is a movie out on the Philadelphia Experiment and some books.
The movie, I'm not sure how much dramatic license is involved, is titled "The
Philadelphia Experiment" and its just a few years old now.


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"Who is it dear?                    |  Don't fear the Reaper,
It's a quaint little man from the   |  Fear your government.
village...something about the       |
reaping!?"                          |  krusty@outb.wimsey.bc.ca
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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: risringer@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (RISHI)
Subject: Re: hEI hEI
Keywords: circular gravity
Organization: Halls of Residence, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:18:07 GMT

In article <2014@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> fred@karl.cs.su.OZ.AU (Fred Curtis) writes:
>From: fred@karl.cs.su.OZ.AU (Fred Curtis)
>Subject: Re: hEI hEI
>Keywords: circular gravity
>Date: 9 Feb 91 04:53:14 GMT

>In article <1991Feb8.124600.22017@eik.ii.uib.no> nIS writes:
>>hELLO eARTHBEINGS,
>>
>>AFTER  DAYS SEVERAL RECONNAISANCE, HAVE WE FOIND A LANDING SITE. iT IS
>>HERE NEAR tRENGEREID, NOT VERY FAR FROM sLARTIBARTFAST'S MONOGRAM, i THINK
>>THEY CALL THIS PLACE NORGYWAY. pEOPLE OF THE eNGLISH TONGS SPEAK OF
>>THE NORGEYS. wE WILL BE UPDATING WITH MORE DETAILS OF OUR PLANNED TOUR 
>>OF THE EARTH PLANET LATER, WHEN WE ARE NOT SO BUSY. wE MUST FIRST SEE REPORTS 
>>OG OUR ARRIVAL IN THE LOCAL RAG - i THINK THEY CALL IT baBLAD.
>>
>>nIS
>>
>>(a ROUGH TRANSLATION OF MY REAL NAME TO YOUR CHARACTER SET)

>Excuse me, but this is my first posting (again).  Testing?  Testing?
>I have been rereading this newsgroup all my life but I still do not
>understand one thing.  What is a 'fnord'?  The only other place I
>have heard this word was in a monty python sketch:

>        Irate customer:  He's dead!
>        Shop manager:    No, he's not dead!  He's pining for the fnords!
>        Irate customer:  Paining for fee-nords?  What kind of talk is that?

>My good friend 'Robert' lent me a book by Douglas Addams.  I don't
>think I believe EVERYTHING in it, but I think it mentioned something
>about Fnords in Norgyway.  Is that near Paraguay?  Is Slartifartblast a
>REAL person?

>Can anyone tell me about the green golfball joke?

hello guys, I really don't know what ya are trying to write but I would like 
some explanation from ya. o.k

Please dont judge this guy too harshly - he comes from Mauritius. nuff said.