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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: New 10,000 Maniacs Release
Keywords: 10,000 Maniacs; Natalie Merchant
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:08:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep30.135225.17038@leland.Stanford.EDU> malan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul Malan) writes:
|It's only been about 3 years since the last album of new material
|from 10,000 Maniacs ("Blind Man's Zoo"), but it seems like 10. So I
|rushed out to get their new release "Our Time in Eden" and was not
|dissapointed.
 
I'm only a recent convert to 10,000 Maniacs but thought I'd add a few
comments.  I had never heard them until about three weeks ago.

|I can never quite put my finger on why the 10,000 Maniacs remain my favorite
|group. Natalie Merchant has a beautiful voice, but you can seldom make out
|exactly what she is saying without referring to the lyrics sheet.

Perhaps that's because the lyrics tend to be stories and the arrangements
don't have the typically repeated choruses that we can all hook to.  I find
listening to Ms. Merchant and following the lyrics to be more interesting
because of that type of arrangement.  It's certainly not an enunciation
problem.

| Her
|instrumental backing is nothing if not enthusiastic, as if trying in vain
|to drown out her voice. But somehow, packaged as 10,000 Maniacs, it's GREAT!
 
I have found the instrumental backing to be simple, yet there always seems
to be a certain tone or style that gives the song a hook.  In one particular
cut on "In My Tribe" the Joe Pass/Barney Kessel style guitar was quite
unexpected.  

|In a nutshell, it is my reserved opinion that their new album is maybe not
|quite as good as "Blind Man's Zoo" or even "In My Tribe", which I would
|first recommend to the uninitiated. However, for those who cannot get
|enough of the Maniacs (like me) you will not be disappointed.
 
So far I've only heard "Blind's Man's Zoo" and "In My Tribe".  Although
I've only heard "In My Tribe" a couple of times I seem to like "Blind's
Man's Zoo" quite a bit more.  What else have they got?

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From: psraah@uta.fi (Rami Ahonen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Terry Hoax. What is it?
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:16:03 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

I need info on a band or singer called Terry Hoax.
(Well, to be honest with you it's my brother who needs this info.)

All I know about them is that they play a heavyish (haven't heard it
myself, so maybe even this might be wrong) version of Depeche Mode's
"Policy of Truth"

E-mail me if you know anything about them. 
(What would be really great is that if someone knows the catalogue
number to their record (if one exists) and mails me that, so that
my brother could order the record. But if this sounds like too much trouble,
don't worry about it. It's just my brother :-)

rami
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: damatt01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (David A. Mattingly)
Subject: Re: Name this Song
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:08:15 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville


>	What's your name
>		Where's your daddy...

It's "Time of the Season" by the Zombies.

  What's your name? 
  Who's your daddy?
  Is he rich...
  ...like me?

-- 
        Dave Mattingly               "Can you snog the dentriface?" 
damatt01@ulkyvx.ct.louisville.edu    "I was an innocent, now I'm magnificent."
        (502) 584-6707               "Here's lookin' at you, sideways!"
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: funga@ecf.toronto.edu (FUNG Alexander Yok-Wai)
Subject: Re: SNL 10/4/92- What did Sinead tear up?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:16:38 GMT

In article <Bvq9o1.5C8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay) writes:
>But hey, can you imagine if Sinead got up there and it turned out
>her photo of the Pope was printed on material that wouldn't tear.  I can 
>see her grappling and trying to tear....well me and a freind thought it 
>would have made for some off-beat irreverent humor....

Hey, but that would have been more funny than most of the skits on last
Saturday's show! :)

Seriously, I have to agree with the previous poster awhile back - it seemed
pretty clear to me that the soundtrack was cut off after Sinead's performance.
Another poster claimed that he could hear her blowing out the candles as
the lights dimmed, but upon playback, I didn't detect it. Oh well, maybe my
hearing is going.

I also agree with another previous poster - I don't think you were *supposed*
to clap. Not because of the Pope thing, regardless - I believe that was one
of those 'thought-provoking' performances where you get a nice, silent
fade-to-black.

-- 
Alex (funga@ecf.toronto.edu)

Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.music.progressive,alt.rock'n'roll
From: chyde@pecos.ads.com (Clinton Hyde)
Subject: Re: Classic albums dated?
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mountain View, CA 94043, +1 (415)
	960-7300
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:22:00 GMT


what makes a classic a classic? some of it has to do with when it came
out, and this is independent of which art form it is. would a cave-man
painting produced last week be anything except silly?

to me, classic = good + stands_the_test_of_time

i.e., I liked it when i first heard it, and I still like it N years
later. 

so is DSOM a classic because of WHEN it came out, or is it a classic
because it's still good?

I'd say because it's good. 

for modern things that sound good, you can always say "that's because
it sounds just like X", where X is the real classic. but that doesn't
make the new thing bad, just derivative.

things that don't stand the test of time get forgotten. that doesn't
make them bad. it might mean they were issued at a poor time.

would DSOM sound derivative if it came out today? probably, since many
other things can be said to be derivative of it--but if it hadn't come
out, it wouldn't have derivatives, therefore if might still sound
fresh...a good existentialist argument.

 -- clint

--

Clint Hyde		"Give me a LispM or give me death!" -- anonymous

Advanced Decision Systems/BAH	Internet:  chyde@chesapeake.ads.com
1953 Gallows Rd, Suite 600
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: ericbi@microsoft.com (Eric Bidstrup)
Subject: Re: opinions on Tubular Bells II?
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:28:14 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Summary: another opinion...

In article <12938@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L) writes:
> Well, I liked TB2.  Very good indeed.  My birthday was Sept 4th,

[other comments/opinions deleted]

Well, as an old time MO fan, who stopped following his work in the mid-late 80's
when he seemed to stop recording instrumental tracks, I like TB2.
However, I agree w/ the person who said it appears MO is trying *so* hard
to copy the 1st TB that TB2 appears somewhat contrived, good, but contrived.
Just got it yesterday & have only listened once, but was surprised that
he stuck to the 'formula' of TB1 so much. Starts w/ a haunting, repetitive
melody, builds up, big finish of 1st part where he announces each
instrument. Weird part towards end of 2nd side w/ grunts from some
pre-human life form, and a country ditty to end (vs. the sailors hornpipe
on the original). Different music, same formula.

On a different note, can someone provide any info if Amarock (?) is
available in the US? I've tried to order (based on what I've heard
here), but my local store doesn't show it in their catalogs...

-Eric Bidstrup
(or a virtual representation of him)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: nestor@hub.toronto.edu (John Nestor)
Subject: Re: Music in Listerine commericial????
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
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Organization: University of Toronto
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:29:08 GMT
X-XXDate: Tue, 29 Sep 92 21:29:50 GMT

In article <BvCpzG.9v4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Chuck Carroll,
cec35848@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>OK, here's a question.  You've seen the Listerine commercial
>where the new mint-flavored Listerine is swing through the
>jungle on vines?
>
>What's the music in that commercial?  I vaguely remember it as
>some rock song from the early '80s, but I don't remember the
>song or who sang it.  It's been driving my roommates and me crazy.
>
>Please post or e-mail; I don't care.

I believe that's "Tarzan Boy" by Baltamora.

John Nestor
nestor@hub.toronto.edu
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:24511 alt.music.progressive:2847
From: wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Virgin CD re-issues
Date: 3 Oct 92 03:13:41 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada

What the hell is it with Virgin anyway? Why do they feel compelled to
deface album art with the ghastly "compact price" sash or circle?

In case anyone out there doesn't know this, Virgin puts the damn
sash or circle RIGHT on the art, it's printed on it directly! Why
not a sticker on the case like every other record company?!?

By the way, I'm one of the not-so-proud owners of many of those EARLY
Virgin CDs with the cropped album art and the wonky type face
replacing the original lettering. The original virgin release of
Seconds Out by Genesis still makes my blood boil. When the US version
came out, I actually traded it my Virgin piece of crap and went out
and bought that one. BTW, the track "segmentation" on the original Virgin
issue were totally screwed up as well.

If I ever get my hands on the flunkie that was behind this fiasco...

Anil Prasad
wcsanil@ccs.carleton.ca
Xref: sparky rec.music.misc:24204 rec.music.industrial:11039
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.industrial
From: stam@dgp.toronto.edu (Jos Stam)
Subject: Re: good clubs in San Diego???
Keywords: clubs San Diego
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:00:49 GMT

ken@bnf.com (Ken Bibb) writes:

>In <craigh.717462795@cserver> craigh@cserver.plexus.com (Craig Heilman) writes:

>>Hi all - I will be visiting San Diego between Oct. 13-18 (Tues - Sun) and
>>was wondering if there are any good clubs to visit.  My areas of musical
>>interest include industrial, techno, alternative, progressive or whatever
>>the latest trendy terms are...

>There are a couple of *ok* clubs, but for real clubs you have to go north.

Or go south to Tijuana. Things can get pretty wild down there. A club
there called "Iguanas" has a lot of "alternative" bands. The crowd and
the (very cheap) whiskey really suck though. Very rough crowd, mostly
underaged surfer boys from S.D., also avoid the washrooms.

>>Thanks,
>>	Craig

>>P.S. any other "tourist" things I should see?

sure Mission Bay, balboa Zoo, the San Diego Zoo, the mall down town (can't
remember the name right now) and of course the beaches.

--- Jos
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: bladex@wixer.cactus.org (David Smith)
Subject: Re: Negativland release?
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 05:45:19 GMT

In article <459n!nm.wipeout@netcom.com> wipeout@netcom.com (Eric Thompson) writ
es:
>I thought I heard someone say Negativland released something recently;
>is it true?  What's it called?
>
>Email preferred,
>Eric


I bought a copy on Friday, but lent it to a friend so I can't verify the
title.  It's a limited edition 4,000 copy (3,999....I have one) combination
magazine and CD that provides *EVERYTHING* you wanted to know about the U2
controversy :  faxes, press releases, legal injunctions, the works.

Oops.  It doesn't mention though what happens to people (like me) who own a
copy of the original U2 package.  Is this illegal information?  Am I a
thought criminal?  Should I return my copy toSST Records for destruction?  If
they mentioned any word of that, I missed it.

-- 

"If you  . . . if you squander your precious beautiful days on
meaningless labor whose" -- he coughed up blood -- "whose ultimate
purpose is to further enrich the ruling elite or solidify the hegemony
From: colm@mathcs.emory.edu (Colm Mulcahy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: The Pointer Sisters, which one is singing?
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:01:07 GMT
Organization: sometimes, but never early in the morning

I know they all do!   My question refers to the Richard Thompson song
Don't Let A Thief Steal Into Your Heart on their 1979 LP Priority.

Who sings *that* song?

Email if you can help please, thanks.


-- 
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Newsgroups: bu.music,rec.music.misc,alt.music.enya
From: ivy@camelot.bradley.edu (Ivelisse Atiles)
Subject: "Watermark" lyrics... pretty please?
Organization: Bradley University
Date:  3 Oct 92 00:28:15 GMT

could someone send me the lyrics to Enya's album "Watermark"?
(at least the songs in English)
If not, is there an ftp site where i can get them?
(i know... stupid question)

Thanks in advance!
--
Ivelisse Atiles (girl... of DESSSS-tiny!)  @}--}--  ivy@camelot.bradley.edu
    "How bold one gets when one is sure of being loved!" -Sigmund Freud
From: nobody@nowhere.gen.nz (Mr Nowhere man)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Nemesis Lyrics ( was Shriekback )
Summary: Here's the full song!
Keywords: Oil Gold Shriekback Nemesis fishes
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 20:01:32 Y
Organization: The anonymouns BBS (666) 666 6666

kinsler@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Paul Kinsler) writes:

> In various articles, people answer a witham_r@apollo.HP.COM (Ron Witham) requ
> for info about _nemesis_, by Shriekback, off _Oil and Gold_.
>
> [ Question about the last line deleted ]

What the hell, I'm probably breaking copyright, but I've always found
the lyrics very clear, so here goes.

In a jungle of the senses
Tinkerbell and Jack the Ripper
Love has no meaning - not where they come from
But we know pleasure is not that simple
Very little fruit is forbidden
Sometimes we wobble sometimes we're strong
But you know evil is an exact science
Being carefuly collected wrong

Chorus:

        Priests and cannibals, prehistoric animals
        Everybody happy as the dead come home
        Big black Nemesis, Parthenogenesis
        No-one move a muscle as the dead come home

We feel like Greeks, We feel like Romans
Centaurs and monkeys just cluster round us
We drink elixiers that we refine
From the juices of the dying
We are no monsters, we're moral people
and yet we have the strength to do this
This is the splendour of our achievment
Call in the airstrike with a poison kiss.

Ch x 2

How bad it gets, you can't imagine
The burning wax, the breath of reptiles
God is not mocked, he is our business
Karma could take us at any moment
Cover him up I think we're finished
You know it's never been so exotic
But I don't know, my dreams are visions
We could still end up with the great big fishes.

Ch to fade out..

------------------------

Once you have a decoded song, the Phonetic song sheet becomes quite easy
to follow. Just as well, considering how good all the songs are!

Background:

Nemesis is a character from 2000 AD cartoon magazine
 ( which also was where Judge Dredd originally featured...)
It reproduces via parthenogensis ( natural cloning )

It leads a band of people across time to hunt down its enemies
( It's been about 10 years since I last read a 2000 AD, so I'm a bit
  fuzzy on the details, but the video for this song used frames from
  this cartoon story)

The whole of Oil and Gold evokes images of ancient evils and extinct animals.

How many bands do you know that have managed to get the word
parthenogenesis in a song?


Mr Nowhere man ( " Bob, errr, Kate " )

Organization: Junior, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 1992 13:06:46 -0400 
From: "Jason M. Roth" <jr4q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Jeremy...
Distribution: na

Eddie Vedder (sp?) has explicitly refused to explain the song _or_ the
video; whether he knows or not, we have no choice buit to guess....

JMR
HSK
From: don@tse.uucp (Don Marks)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: You've got the eyes of a stranger
Date: 3 Oct 92 13:40:32 GMT
Organization: Toronto Stock Exchange

In article <1992Sep30.152155.3519@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> bmoore@alvin.austin.ibm.com writes:
>I'm looking for an album with this song on it. It was done by a group
>called something like Peyolas or Peyotes. Can anyone tell me exactly
>what the groups name is, and what the album name is? I think the
>song came out around 1985.
>
The group was the Payola$, a Vancouver band.  I believe the album was _No
Stranger To Danger_, circa 1982 or so.  It's also on the best of, _Between
a Rock and a Hyde Place_ (so named because Bob Rock and Paul Hyde were the
main members of the band).
==============================================================================
Don Marks                                         "She's a slut, she's a whore
don@tse.UUCP                                       She might even be a person"
geac!tse!don                                            --- Leslie Spit Tree-o
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: boek@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Christopher Boek)
Subject: Re: Peter Gabriel's Us, Shaking, etc
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:39:55 GMT

jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay) writes:

>Peter Gabriel's Last Temptation Album, now "Us" and I think "Shaking the
>Tree" have this rainbow stripe which raps around from the back of the
>CD case to the spine, along with some panther-like animal on the back.
>What's this all about?  Something to do with production? Amnesty international?

These things are the trademarks of Real World Records, the record label
that PG created. It's kind of related to WOMAD and all of PG's interest
in world music. He is as far as I know the only English artist to 
release his music on that label. I could be wrong about that though ...
*:)

>Thanks for the explanation.

No problem. *:)

Chris.

--
|Christopher Boek                               boek@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU|
|  Dept ElecEng, University of Melbourne,  Parkville Vic 3052 Australia |
|_____"Anybody remotely interesting is mad in some way or another"______|
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: jlwoodal@garcia.warfield.edu 
Subject: Re: Eagles are dead (its official)
Originator: jlwoodal@c00026-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jlwoodal@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: Solar Federation
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:38:09 GMT


>My own thoughts is that there are many top bands in the country that would
>give their eye teeth to be in the position of taking that backward step.
>This interview has shattered one of my long held dreams about a possible
>reunion.  Like many fans, I suppose, I was too young to appreciate them the
>first time round.

I was lucky enough to catch on right at the end, with "The Long Run".
I was about nine years old, and already into good music.  Amazing....
Thank GOD there was no MTV back then.
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: You've got the eyes of a stranger
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:16:38 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel


The group is called the Payola$, from Vancouver, British Columbia
("The Heights" on Fox is filmed there); their only CDs seem to be the
final album under the name Rock & Hyde (that's Bob Rock, who is now a
bigtime producer while partner Paul Hyde has a solo career up north)
and a Payola$ compilation with that song, both only available in
Canada ... here's some help with getting a copy:

If you're looking for "import" CDs, Canada is also another possible
source before going overseas.  Nou Dadoun (dadoun@cs.ubc.ca), who
posts now and again, is connected to Black Swan Records in Vancouver,
B.C.  but cannot publicize that in first person due to USENET ethics.
Stuff from the Canadian CD Versions list and other imports are often
found as Canadian domestics due to different importation laws and
different market dynamics (smaller market, need more than mass volume
sales).  You can reach them at:

        Black Swan Records
        2936 West 4th Avenue
        Vancouver, B.C.
        CANADA   V6K 1R2

        (604) 734-2828
        (Pacific time, so you can wait 'til it's cheap to call)

     "... specialize in non-mainstream tunes, jazz, folk, world/ethnic
     music, etc. And for the last year or so, we've been spinning off
     a fairly healthy mailorder business."

Black Swan issued their first catalog this summer; while they
specialize in folk and "world" music, I'm sure that they can
easily order Canadian and "import" titles since they deal with 
the same distributors anyways.

I've never used him, as I can just call up my brother, and otherwise
only know him as a bloke on the net; his userid is NOT for business
usage, unfortunately.  I have no other connection to this guy, your
dealings would be strictly with him; this is just the easiest,
simplest, laziest way for me to connect you with a source up north.

Another place that comes from word of mouth recommendations is:

   THE CD BAR +1 416 977 6863 (fax +1 416 977 6865, also phone)
    281 Queen St W.
    Toronto, Ontario M5V 1Z9 (CANADA)
        Imports from around the world, will ship anywhere. Visa, 
        Mastercard, no COD (no AMEX) checks (but you have to wait 
        for it to clear.)

gld
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From: tim@introl.com (Tim Chase)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: opinions on Tubular Bells II?
Date: 1 Oct 1992 22:58:22 -0500
Organization: Introl Corp.
NNTP-Posting-Host: introl.introl.com

>Keep in mind though, that there were no synths used on TB1. Organs and

Urgh... told ya I hadn't listened to it in awhile.  It is, however, one of
those albums that one would _assume_ used them... kind of like Alan Parsons
Project's _Tales..._ (which only had a synth in one small place).

Anyways, I've now listened to both TB I and II a few times in the last few
days and I think I'm definitely in the TBII camp (watching the concert on
Monday helped!).  I have a feeling that TBII will become my second favorite
MO album next to _Amarok_.


-- 
Tim Chase		           Introl Corp. Milwaukee, WI USA
Email: tim@introl.com		   Phone: +1 (414) 327-7171
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Rock/funky a capella groups
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:58:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep30.134513.29711@oakhill.sps.mot.com> tomc@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Tom Cunningham) writes:
>
>Can someone point me to a list of a capella singing groups/albums that
>are blues/soul/rock-oriented (as opposed to, say, classical or
>barbershop)?  I believe there was a PBS special that featured these
>kinds of groups, but I missed it.  Also, if this is FAQ, please clue
>me in.  Thanks!

The Bobs.

Not excactly funk but Gentle Giant does a bit of a capella stuff.  Not exactly
rock or funk but Steeleye Span does a lot of great a capella work.  Check out
Below the Salt, and specifically _Gaudete_ and _Rosebud in June_.

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| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
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