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From: rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman)
Subject: Re: IS THE 'MINORITY' BRAHMINISM POLITICALLY INCONSEQUENTIAL ?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:53:28 GMT

I would like to add some more noise  with few  of my observations  while
rest I let it pass  as they seem to follow a rigid cyclic path.

At the outset, I would like to condemn the stupid letter of TAMBRAS. I can
understand the urge of a community to regroup under a kinda situation as
existing in TN especially for brahmins, nevertheless a community based
organisation for them, in my view is myopic and destructive. This  is the
view  taken by many of my friends at the time of TAMBRAS' initiation that
I  doubt the membership would be any significant now. 

If it is true that brahmins in their yester years, led the community with
their erudition, there is no better time than like  this,to play the same
role  model but by not repeating the same myopic mistakes as above.

IMO   even if all the brahmins group together under TAMBRAS [which will not
occur], it is illogical to think that they could weild political clout any
better than personal rapport or media .

--------------------
To all those accusations like brahmin controlled media,  brahmins,
collusion with politicians  for the ills of society:- a similar pattern U
must have seen in the posting in SCT in the war between Popular vs literary
magazines. 

What is needed is a fresh line  of thinking - get out of usual rote
accusations as old as Pudumaipittan. If this done, probably one may  get
support of more brahmins i.e, high caste communities.
---------------------

raghavan
From: sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy)
Subject: Re: Fundamental Questions.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:28:53 GMT

In article <BzGw2z.82q@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan) writes:
>Present Caste based reservation (CBR) in Tamil Nadu:
>
>1. Is backward caste synonymous to 'all except Brahmins'? One gets
>that impression as opposition is almost uniquely from Brahmins.

	I gave a partial list of non-brahmin forward castes at least
	twice before.

	In Tamil Nadu, Chettiars (Nagaraththar, VaaNiyar, Komutti etc.),
	Balija (both Tamil and Kannada speaking and EVR belongs to the
	later), Kamma, VeLLalas (like Saiva veLLaaLar, veerakkudi,
	vELaaLar etc.), Reddiyars, are few of the non-brahmin upper castes that 
	are forward castes. However, the major opposition seems to be
	always from Brahmins, in spite of having an effective control
	over central government bueracracy, which other castes lack.

>
>2. How are intercaste marriages treated under the "CBR"?
>(i) lower (preferred) of the two
>(ii) higher of the two
>(iii) father's caste
>Any thing other than (i) means they are not serious to remove caste
>differences.

	Only the father's caste is considered official. In fact, a proof of
	father's caste should be furnished in order to get a caste 
	certificate.

>
>3. What is the objection to reservation based on parent's education
>and family wealth? The former is very easy to implement.

	True. These two factors should be considered for declaring the
	backwardness of an individual, even he/she belongs to the
	'backward' community. However, this is only if one looks from
	the angle of economical upliftment and partially, the social
	upliftment. But there is another hidden fact here. ie. the
	power sharing. That is the major reason behind all the cries
	for and against reservation. (No one seems to be bothered whether
	are not the reservations are made mandatory in private sector).

>
>Please answer only if you are sure. Not much use in expressing
>just feelings.
>
>K. Srinivasan  at Hydro Quebec   srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca

	M.Sundaramoorthy
	sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: THALAPATHI song now available via Internet...
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 13:07:02 GMT


In article <1992Dec13.030616.19954@news.nd.edu> subra@gandhi.cc.nd.edu (Kumaraswamy Subramanian) writes:
>Vannakkam,
>     I am really thrilled and proud to say that I/we can listen to a Tamil
>song(if you have full connectivity to Internet) sitting in front of my/your
>Sun workstation(also available from NeXT). I don't know how many of you
>are familiar with a software called Gopher

Gopher is nice, but surely not appropriate for transferring sound
files from there to Finland in real time.

I didn't find a method to save the sample to file;
now that makes the gopher (or me :-) to be rather poor.

Juhana Kouhia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rsivaram@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Siva)
Subject: Re: "malar" paadalgal.
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:14:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.195336.21699@vela.acs.oakland.edu> janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Zombie Dude) writes:
>In article <1gr49kINNbh6@menudo.uh.edu> Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu> writes:
>>malar and its variances:
>>[1] malare, malare theriyathO  [movie: thEn nilavu]
>>[2] malarnthum malaraatha [movie: paasa malar]
>>[3] malarkalaip pOl thangai [movie: paasa malar]
>>[4] malarE, kurinji malarE [movie: doctor siva]
>>[5] poove, pooch chooda vaa [movie: poove pooch chooda vaa]
>>[6] pookkalaithaan parikkaatheenga [movie: ???]
>>[7] poovil vandu koodum [movie: kaathal Oviyam]
>>[8] poove nee yaar cholli [movie: ???]
>>[9] poove, chempoove [movie:???]  
>			Solla thudikidhu manasu
>
>>[10] poovizhi vaasalil vanthu [movie: deepam]
>
>	Malara malare then vendum [ Idhaya Kani ]
It is not Malare malere it is Idhale Idhale then vendum

>	Poo pookum maasam thai maasam [ Varusham 16 ]
>	Poovukku poovaale [ ? ]
>	Poojaikerththa poovidhu [ ? ]
>	Pudhiya poovidhu poorthadhu [ Thenrale ennai thodu ]
>
>J Anand.
>
>-- 
>!!!!!!!!!%-----+++++=====/**##!!!!!!!!!!!!!/**##=====+++++-----%!!!!!!!!
>When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried.
>!!!!!!!!!%-----+++++=====/**##!!!!!!!!!!!!/**##=====+++++-----%!!!!!!!!!


--
From: sl9z5@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: "MAdhavi Pon mayilAl Thoegai "
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:29:01 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Hai
	Somebody had asked for verses of "MAdhavi Pon maylAl Thoegai 
viriththAl, vanna mai itta kann" from Iru malargal.

	Incidentally, is 'nt that song based on the 
	carnatic rAgam "KaraharaPriyA".

Thanks,
Murali S.
Utah State University,
Logan, UT-84322.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: nEyar viruppam-ivvaarap paadal
Keywords: sydney kumarin ivvarap paadal
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:18:30 GMT


     naNpar kumar avarkaL valaikku ivvaarap paadalai anuppa EthO thadangal;
     neengaL ippaadalai valaiyil pOdungaL yendRaar; atharakku enna modai
     endRaLiththEn vidai.

   


  (5.64+/IDA/DIT-0.9 for kat@doe.carleton.ca); Mon, 21 Dec 92 08:51:27 +1100
From: "V.R.Kumar" <kumar@syd.dit.csiro.au>
Message-Id: <9212202151.AA13517@ditsydh.syd.dit.csiro.au>
Subject: nEyar viruppam
To: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 8:51:27 EST
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Status: OR

** kadavul En kallaanaan, avan kallaaip pOna manidharkaLaaLE **


nEyar viruppam - ivvaarap paadal
================================

thirudaathE ..... paappa thirudaathE
thirudaathE paappa thirudaathE
thirudaathE paappa thirudaathE
varumai nilaikku bayanNthu vidaathE
thiRamai irukku maRanNthu vidaathE
thirudaathE paappa thirudaathE

sinthiththup paarththu seykayai maaththu 
sirusaa irukkayil thiruththikkO, thavaru     
sirusaa irukkayil thiruththikkO
sinthiththup paarththu seykayai maaththu 
sirusaa irukkayil thiruththikkO, thavaru     
sirusaa irukkayil thiruththikkO
therinNthum theriyaama nadaniNthirunNthaa adhu
thirumbavum varaama paarththukkO
therinNthum theriyaama nadanNthirunNthaa adhu
thirumbavum varaama paarththukkO

thirudaathE ..... paappa thirudaathE
varumai nilaikku bayanNthu vidaathE
thiramai irukku maRanNthu vidaathE
thirudaathE paappa thirudaathE

thittam pOttu thirudara koottam thirudik kondE irukkuthu
thittam pOttu thirudara koottam thirudik kondE irukkuthu
adhai sattam pOttu thadukkira koottam thaduththuk kondE irukkuthu
thirudaraaip paarththu thirunNthaa vittal thiruttai ozhikka mudiyaathu
thirudaraaip paarththu thirunNthaa vittal thiruttai ozhikka mudiyaathu

thirudaathE ..... paappa thirudaathE
varumai nilaikku payanthu vidaathE
thiramai irukku maRanNthu vidaathE
thirudaathE paappa thirudaathE

kodukkura kaalam neruNGkuvathaal 
ini edukkura avasiyam irukkaathu
kodukkura kaalam neruNGkuvathaal 
ini edukkura avasiyam irukkaathu
padhukkura vElayum irukkaathu
odhukkura vElayum irukkaathu
uzhaikkira nOkkam uruthiyaayittaal......
uzhaikkira nOkkam uruthiyaayittaal
kedukkira nOkkam vaLaraathu
manam keezhum mElum puralaathu
uzhaikkira nOkkam uruthiyaayittaal
kedukkira nOkkam vaLaraathu
manam keezhum mElum puralaathu

thirudaathE paappa thirudaathE
varumai nilaikku bayanNthu vidaathE
thiRamai irukku maRanNthu vidaathE
thirudaathE paappa thirudaathE
paappaa......thirudaathE


anbudan,

V.R.Kumar

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From: sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy)
Subject: Re: Yuga purushan !!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:52:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.001057.10462@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ssankara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara) writes:
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>Does anyone know the remaining line(s) of the following
>>poem and who wrote this poem on Baarathiyaar?
>>
>>"paattukkoru pulavan Baarathiyadaa
>> avan paattaip paNNOdoruvan paadinaanadaa
>> kEttuk kirukiruththup pOnEnadaa
>> antha ________ ennavendru solvenadaa"  (correct this line!)
>>
>>
>
>  "anthak kirukkil uLaRumozhi poRuppayada"
>
>
>S. Sankarapandi

	This poem is by Naamakkal Ve. Ramamlingam Pillai, who was popularly
	known as 'Naamakkal Kavignar'. He continued the spirit of
	Independence movement with his songs, after Bharathi met with
	unfortunate death. He was the first 'Arasavaik Kavignar', 
	appointed by K.Kamaraj, the then Chief Minister of TN. 

	M. Sundaramoorthy
	sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: Truth is bitter !
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:27:32 GMT

In <9212171807.AA14774@cec1.wustl.edu> sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:

>[ Posted for Senthil  - SP ]
>_________________________________________________________________________

>chitoor@dori.cis.udel.edu (Srikrishnan R. Chitoor) writes:
>> ssankara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara) writes:

>>>     Let me give you another example of your posting to show that
>>> you are NOT as a-casteist as you claim to be, and do put casteist 
>>> connotations to any topic you discuss. When I discussed about
>>> Jeya's suggestion to solve NIC problem, you brought in totally 

>>> Srikrishnan Chitoor.

>- Senthil


    aiyaah! SRChittor  ungka paguthaRivu muthal mandiri maakathil panniya
  vElaikku vakkaallathu vangaathinga. ungaLLukkum pachchai kuththi paguthaRivil
  kalaa nidhi pattam koduththiruvaangka!

 Kathiravan
From: sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy)
Subject: Re: Finally, a few words...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:56:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.215416.10625@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> ssankara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sornam Sankara) writes:
>
>
>    (Note:  Periyar does not fit into this because he was never behind money
>or vote or power.  He was simply a social reformer who supposed to have fought
>the caste system but restricted his attack against brahmins because Brahmins
>were very powerful in his time.  He did not live longer to fight against the
>other castes now.  I credit him only for his unselfish and tireless hardwork
>which definitely yielded some good results.  I do not agree with the basis he
>worked on.  Even he may not have understood that when he started it.
>      After he died, DK was plainly a political party though it did not contest
>elections.  They were blindly anti-brahmin and helped the non-Brahmin rich to
>swindle all the poor people economically)
>
>
>S. Sankarapandi

	The big blunder Periyar did was to join with Tamil revivalist 
	group and the power mongering non-Brahmin uppercastes of Justice
	party. Except the anti-Brahmin stand of the three groups,
	'Tamil-Saiva' revivalists, Justice party and 'Self-respect'
	movement, there was nothing common for these groups. And so 
	ultimately the whole issue of caste and religion was reduced to
	Brahmin vs non-Brahmin. That may be the reason for his soft stand
	against the non-brahmin upper castes.

	I don't agree that he didn't have time to criticize. He might have
	been handicaped because they became a part his organisation.  

	In fact, DMK became a more obvious organisation of the non-Brahmin
	upper caste and Tamil revivalist power group.

	I am planning to write after sometime on these aspects.

M. Sundaramoorthy
sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: sundaram@me.uta.edu (Ravi 'Kity Bum' Sundaram)
Subject: Re: Thuklak Kelvi Badhil
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:48:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.191422.15677@engage.pko.dec.com> thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (R. Thiyagarajan) writes:

>   Que : One DMK MLA has said that the assembley without Karunanidhi is like
>	 dark sky without the moon. What do you say about this?
>
>   Ans : Ammavasai oru punya kalam.
>
>
>   If anyone is interested, I will try to post more.
>						^^^^^
>   RT

	YES! I really miss them. Would be grateful if you could.

	Ravi Sundaram
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: NEWS: Temple for Kushboo in Tiruchi
Reply-To: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:12:52 GMT


    I heard that a temple for Kushboo is under construction
in Tiruchi. This temple, called `Kushambigal Devalayam', for
the actress Kushboo,  will be completed in January, according
to the trustees of the temple..

    This, I think, is the first time, the movie culture in
Tamilnadu is building temples to movie-stars while they are
alive. ( The temple for M.G.R. in Perambur, Madras, was built
after his death. )

-- 
pax vobiscum,
sundara pandian
ah724@yfn.ysu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: arbi@charles.polymer.uakron.edu (The Dude)
Subject: pin vandhu ninRu kaN maRaiththal
Organization: Institute of Polymer Science, University of Akron
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:34:16 GMT

on this 110th birth anniversary of my favorite poet, i take pleasure in
posting the following from his collection. this is the piece i liked most
(apart from those that have been publicized through movies).

situation:
	baarathiyaar is waiting for kaNNammaa at the beach; kaNNammaa
	comes from behind and closes his eyes. she laughs and asks him
	who he thinks it is. then she asks him what he was looking at
	as he waited for her. he replies:

neriththa thiraikkadalil nin mugang kaNdEn  : neriththa thirai - adarndha alai
neela visumbinidai nin mugang kaNdEn        : neela visumbu - blue horizon
thiriththa nuraiyinidai nin mugang kaNdEn   : thiriththa - kadaindhu eduththa (the action of the
chinnak kumizhigaLil nin mugang kaNdEn.		waves results in something similar to 'kadaidhal')

piriththup piriththu nidham mEgam aLandhE   : trying to discern patterns in the clouds repeatedly,
peRRadhun mugamandRip piRidhon Rillai.      : obtained only your face and nothing else.
siriththa sirippalaiyil un kaivilakkiyE     : as you laughed, i took your hands off my eyes,
thirumith thazhuviyadhil nin mugang kandEn. : turned around, hugged you, and saw your face.

notice the gradual transformation from imagery to reality - he was seeing her face in the
elements of nature and brought to reality by her laughter, turns around and sees her face.

-- 

R Balaji
Inst. of Polymer Science, Akron, OH 44325-3909
arbi@iris.polymer.uakron.edu    (216) 972 8294
From: kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: minnal varigaL - A Note
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:06:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47471
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


	A NOTE TO THE CONTRIBUTORS OF MINNAL VARIGAL !!
	-----------------------------------------------

	You might or might not be aware of the fact that I have been
'filtering' the contributions that I have been receiving and posting
only those that I (repeat, I), personally (repeat, personally) feel are
good enough to be called minnal varigaL. The reason for this post is
to invite your comments on this - Whether you feel it is ok if I do this
or not. Frankly, I do not find an alternative to maintain the quality
of this series....

	An important criteria that I have been using is - to check if the 
lines are trite - oft repeated and very well known. For
eg., 
	"satti suttadhadaa! kai vittadhadaa!
	 budhi kettadhadaa! nenjai thottadhadaa !"

would be classified as such lines. Often, the first lines of songs 
invariably sound trite, and though they are indeed poetic, they are
not exactly minnal!

	I understand that tastes differ and what is trite to you may
not be the same to you etc... The purpose of this post is to exactly
know about your reaction in this regard. I am open to ANY suggestion.

	Also welcome are more suggestions on what could possibly add
up to a set of policies.

	Thanx a lot.
Srikanth.
From: selvakum@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (C.R.Selvakumar - Electrical Engineering)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Yuga purushan !!
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:29:58 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo


     Namakkal KaviNYar is equally "well known" as bharathidaasan but not as
     "famous" as Bharathiyaar. 

     Kaththi inRi raththam inRi yuththam onRu varuguthu
     ......
     .....
     in arumaa viruththam was sung by this KaviNYar about the novel
     struggle of Gandhi

    Also famous is the song 
 
     "sUriyan varuvathu yaaaalE
         Chanthiran thirivathu evaraalE
     ...
      ArithaRkellaam athikaari
        athai naam theirnthida vENdaavO

    (I don't recall these songs accurately, so please excuse me)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.tamil:4239 soc.culture.indian:40359
From: rgopu@cs.tamu.edu (Rangarathnam Gopu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Info request - which movies ...
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:49:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuron.tamu.edu

Hi

I need the starting lines of songs from these movies, as many as u can
remember. I would prefer replies by email (saves bandwidth). My email address:

		rgopu@cs.tamu.edu

1. Udhayam	(Nagarjun)
2. Guru sishyan	(Rajini)
3. paNakkaran	(Rajini)
4. poonthOtta kaavalkaaran (Vijayakanth)
5. aduththa vaarisu (Rajini)
6. kaadhal Oviyam

	There was an MGR movie (MGR double action) which included a song
	sung by TMS and SPB together. That's all I remember about it. Anyone 
	know which movie I am talking about?

Thanks
--
Gopu
------
rgopu@cs.tamu.edu			ParukkuLE nalla naadu
Texas A&M University			EngaL Baaratha naadu
From: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Something to take note of:
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:45:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.of_xYDS00WBM049mM3
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

About 2 months back, when 134 Muslims were apparently massacred by LTTE
cadres in eastern SR, I chose not to comment on it. Not, because I
didn't have anything to say or that I didn't care. 
There were two reasons why I kept quiet. First, there are thousands of
children who are orphans in northeast SR. Many have lost both parents,
wither to SL armed forces or to IPKF. Others have lost brothers or
sisters. Worse, many killings took place right infront of their eyes(to
teach a lesson!). But, the world kept quiet. The silence pervades even
now. What happened to some of these orphans?... one may ask. Some, who
have nothing to lose, joined LTTE to seek revenge. Traumautized, made
numb to wide scath of death and destruction around them, they they went
to work in the 'killing fields'. Remember Cambodia & the effect of
constant bombardment of B-52's on people 'down below'?

So, when I saw picture of little girl(at the massacre site), who has
lost everything that had a meaning to her life, casting her eyes at the
burnt home/hut, I thought about the countless others who have already
become the 'lost kind.' I had nothing to say.
Secondly, it the masscare was exploited by SL government to get the
maximum political mileage it can get. It was rather sickening to me.
Having killed thousands of Tamils in countless unpublished 'little' and
'big killings,' what right did it have to claim to uphold any modicum of
justice? When many jumped in to condemn LTTE for the massacre without
any knowledge of what leads to suc acts, I felt furious. After having
lost so much, many Tamils feel that anyone cooperating with the
Sinhalase should not be allowed to stay on in our soil. In this war,
this raging anger(fueled by a sense of hopelessness and
insecurity)against few Muslims extends to all Muslims, by way of
generalization. 

Anyway, I brought this up now to make a small point. What is happening
in SR can atleast be explained by savagery of war. But, what can explain
the current orgy of killings in India? Yes, there are similarities.
Communalism was nurtured by politicians in SL which evantually led to
this war. And in India, deacades communal politics are bearing their
fruits. Let what is still taking place in SR be a warning to 'secular'
minds in India. If someone  plays with fire, it will finally get to the
that person at the end. Some of those politicians who played with fire
for a little too long ended up having un-natural deaths(SR). Communal
politcis, is after all, a rather volatile mixture. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Re: Request for movie names
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:57:18 GMT

madhusudanan@akocoa.enet.dec.com (MADHUSUDANAN) writes:


>Can any of u tell me the following :
It is Urimaik kural" with Latha and produced by Sridhar. Lovely songs.
- ganesh

>In which movie of MGR did this song "Vizhiye Kadhai Ezhudhu, Kanneeril Ezhudhadhe.." 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Zombie Dude)
Subject: Re: "nila" paadalgal.
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:48:00 GMT

In article <1gr3iuINNari@menudo.uh.edu> Venkatachalam Aruna <aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu> writes:
> There are lots of tamil movie songs start with "nilavu" and its
>variances.
>[1] nilavE ennidam nerungathE, nee ninaikkum [movie:???]
>[2] nilavu oru peNNagi [movie: ???]
>[3] nilavukku en mEl ennadi kOpam [movie: pOlicekaaran makal]
>[4] maasilla nilave [movie: ???]
>[5] vaaraayO veNNilavE, kElayo [movie: missiamma]
>[6] vaa veNNilaa unnaithane [movie: mella thiranthathu kadhavu]
>[7] vaanilE then nilaa [movie: kaakkich chattai]
>[8] vaan nilaa nilaa [movie: pattinap pravesam]
>[9] nilaak kaayuthu neram nalla [movie: paayum puli]
>[10] vaanil muzhu madhiyai kandEn [movie: ???]
>[11] veNNilave, veNNilave [movie: vanchik kOttai vaaliban]

	Nilave vaa    [ Mouna Raagam ]
	Nilavu vandhadhu nilavu vandhadhu [ Endrum Anbudan ]
	Nila adhu vaanathu mele [ Naayagan ]

J Anand.

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