From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: fraternities
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
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Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 20:34:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.085508.5143@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>Ted, I'll say it before, and I'll say it again. Where is the evidence?!?!?
>You haven't cited a single study. 

I don't know where you've been, I've cited several.  I'll re-cite them
at the end of the post.  (Incidentally, this is an accusation you
repeat several times throughout your post, and one which is very easy
to prove false.  Do I really need to archive my posts to prove that
I've cited evidence?)

>> In addition, we've seen both a law student and
>> a lawyer on this thread explain why it is well-nigh close to impossible
>> of getting a conviction for a fraternity rape, which is a huge chunk of
>> the reason why they're a problem -- if fraternities were held accountable
>> for the rapes they committed, it wouldn't be half of the problem it is.
>
>The problem is, neither of you explained adequately; neither of you cited
>specific cases in which your points appeared. Frankly, Ted, until you
>come up with some cases in which what you describe happened, I'm not
>going to believe you.

Define "adequately."  Mark and I both submitted thousand-word posts on
the subject.  What in particular did we not explain well?

We both cited the St. John's fraternity rape.  The books and articles
I name below cite several others.  There was a great deal of controversy
earlier in the year in Los Angeles when it turned out Police Chief
Gates (remember him?) was blocking the investigation of a fraternity
rape at USC.  

An incomplete bibliography:

---Fraternities and Rape---

Bausell and Maloy, "The links among drugs, alcohol, and campus crime: A
	research report," Paper presented at the Fourth National Conference
	on Campus Violence, Towson, MD.

Ehrhart and Sandler, Campus gang rape: Party Games?, Association of 
	American Colleges, 1985.

Garrett-Gooding and Senter, "Attitudes and acts of sexual aggression on
	a university campus," Sociological Inquiry (1987) 59:348-71.  

Hughes and Sandler, "Friends" raping friends: Could it happen to you?,
	Association of American Colleges, 1987.

Kanin, "Reference groups and sex conduct norm violations," Sociological
	Quarterly (1967), 8:495-504.

O'Sullivan, Chris.  (Title unknown, book coming out in 1992 or 1993.)

Parrot and Bechhofer, eds, Acquaintance Rape: The Hidden Crime, Wiley, 1991.

Rivera and Regoli, "Sexual victimization experiences of sorority women,"
	Sociology and Social Research (1987), 72:39-42.

Sanday, Fraternity Gang Rape, NYU Press, 1990.  [This book somehow seems
	to have mysteriously disappeared off the shelves of nearly every
	college library.]

Warshaw, I Never Called It Rape, Harper & Row, 1988.

---Gang Rape in General---

Blakely, "The New Bedford verdict," Ms. (July 1984), 116.

Geis, "Group sexual assaults," Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality (May
	1971), 101-13.

Medea and Thompson, Against Rape, Farrar, Straus, & Giroux (1974).

---On Difficulty of Conviction:---

Estrich, Real Rape, Harvard U Press, 1987.

Rowland, The Ultimate Violation, Doubleday, 1985.
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