From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: What if... (Sleepwalker and what should go)
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In article <C0Gz75.EE9@news.ucs.mun.ca> cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  ) writes:
>>>What if....
>>>Sandman was a Marvel title?  
>>
>>	What do you think Sleepwalker is?  According to rumors, spread by
>>Neil G. himself that Marvel was ready to make a Sandman-ish comic, with
>>a real Brit writer and stuff, but DeFalco finally got around to read an
>>ish of Sandman, and though it was boring.  Just people talking and stuff.
>>So now we have Sleepwalker, that paragon of drekdom.
>
>Didn't somebody on the net post a supposed quote from Tom DeFalco about
>Sleepwalker? Something along the lines that "Sleepwalker is Sandman done
>right." If you want to talk about cringing, try reading that line and
>imagine the mind of a person who would actually believe it. Maybe the
>Marvel Implusion will take care of the drek, along with some of these
>other Marvel titles:

>All of the Marvel UK stuff
Yeah, for the most part these series aren't worth reading (I haven't picked
up PENDRAGON in a _long_ time so I don't know if the quality has
suffered lately or not) but I still think that DEATH'S HEAD II is one of
the more unique character concepts to come down the pike (although I miss
the old DH.)

>All (sorry PAD) the 2099 line.
Am I the only one who thinks these titles are even halfway decent? Maybe
it's because I've become a fan of such "cyberpunk"-style fiction that I
enjoy SPIDER-MAN 2099 and DOOM 2099 most of all. (I won't read anything by
Stan Lee just as a principle, although I did read issue #1 of RAVAGE 2099
to see if it was worthwhile; "Mutroids"? Is that a "futuristic" term for
"mutants"? I'm sorry, but I don't think so.)
One thing I know I'm gonna get tired of is the constant use of "shock" in
place of "f_ck". One of my biggest gripes with D.P.7 was the use of
"psuedo-profanity". If you're going to have the characters swear and use
"mature" language, then at least have the balls to use the real words!

Another gripe I had with the 2099 series was the "teasers" in MARVEL
COMICS PRESENTS. I went and bought the issue with the DOOM 2099 teaser,
hoping that there might be a nifty 8-page prologue to the series, and
all it is the first 8 pages of DOOM 2099 #1! the RAVAGE 2099 preview was
the same, except it was taken from issue 2. I remember the QUASAR
preview had a really interesting 8-pager dealing with Man-Thing,
Jennifer Kale, and Quagmire from SQUADRON SUPREME. I don't want to buy
the same story twice! That's why I don't collect CLASSIC X-MEN!
Does anybody have a reason--other than they fact that they're new
titles--for seeing the 2099 line go?

>Midnight Sons
Implosion or not, I think that most of these titles will probably go away
within a year or so anyway (unless they keep them stocked with Ghost
Rider appearances)

>Most of the new titles introduced in the last 3 years, specifically
>Cage, Nomad, Silver Sable, Sleepwalker, SHIELD, Terror Inc., etc.
Point of Clarification: SHIELD is close to its 4th anniversary as the
current incarnation.
Am I the only one who has noticed that Terror is the exact same character
as a Shadowline (ST. GEORGE) character named Schrek? Same appearance, same
personality, same powers (In WOLVERINE, he even referred to the wrestler
that he got his metal hand from--one of the supporting characters from
POWER LINE!)

>Some of the Spidey titles, especially one of the reprint titles
ONE of them? He has more than one?
Actually, now that SPIDER-MAN has joined the rest of them in terms of
storytelling, it could probably go. I'd keep AMAZING SPIDER-MAN, and I
guess SPECTACULAR SPIDER-MAN is doing some good work right now. We don't
need 4 Spider-titles, when all of the stuff they're doing is the same.

>Half of the mutant titles, specifically X-Men Adventures, X-Force,
>X-Men.
I agree that X-MEN ADVENTURES should die; it'll probably go as soon as the
cartoon does. I think X-FORCE has some potential, now that a) they
have a new, solid art team (Greg Capullo and Harry Candelario will
probably top the list of Marvel's rising stars soon) and b)
Cable--everybody's favorite character to hate--seems to be out of
the series for a while. If X-MEN goes, then they'll have to drop some
members of the team, because there are too many members right now
for one book to do justice to.

>Punisher War Journal, Punisher War Zone and can any further Punisher
>Graphic novels.
The first two story arcs for PUNISHER WAR ZONE were better than your usual
PUNISHER storyline, in terms of art and storytelling. Time will tell if
this will keep true. I agree that the last thing we need is another $24.95
hardcover PUNISHER Graphic Novel that doesn't really do anything that
can't be done in one of the regular titles. (PUNISHER: THE PRIZE seems
like a good example.)
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