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From: 2frkarcane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Still need help with AmigaNOS...
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:01:53 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I'm having trouble finding AmigaNOS.  Maybe you can help?  I've tried to get on
the 130.xx.xx.x as suggested in the FAQ sheet and can't get a connection and 
couldn't locate it on uscd.edu in hamradio or amiga.  I'm also still wondering
how to set up a node for mac too.

If you can help please send me mail.  If you can't don't send me a request on
how its going I'll post whatever I learn here.

jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller
From: qala@netcom.com (Stephen Semegran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: NComm 2.0 at last! pirate trash NOT!
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:25:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.q0yj!jj.qala
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:

>tony@ais.org (Tony Poole) writes:

>>This is ridiculous.  Case in point:  I just recently purchased Lattice C
>>version 5.0.  Obviously I got manuals.  I really don't know that much C.
>>I'd be totally helpless to teach myself C from the Lattice documentation.

>>First, I purchased a non-Amiga C book (New C primer plus) which taught me
>>the basics.  I then recieved as part of a package buy three amiga C books,

> If you're going to take part in a conversation know what the hell it's
>about, ok?

>  We are not talking about general purpose texts, we were talking about 
>specific texts on specific applications, dBASE, Lotus, WordPerfect, etc.

dBASE is as much an implementation language as C, and I'm inclined to think
of Lotus the same way with it's macros.  Applications are developed using
them as "higher level languages".  Programming concepts, tips and techniques
are usually better presented in these tutorial texts than in the reference
manuals that accompany a product, which are usually encyclopedic in nature.
One can learn vocabulary from a dictionary or a thesaurus, but there is more
to learning a language than its vocabulary.

>  -jack-
From: Mike_Iwasaki@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Iwasaki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Newer version of BaudBandit wanted (or else)
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:50:49 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Chuck Andreas writes:
> 
> Msg-ID: <Chuck_Andreas.0ach@lhaven.UUmh.Ab.Ca>
> Posted: 1 Apr 92 22:33:32 MST
> 
> Org.  : Lunatic Haven BBS
> 
>  I'd like to know what the most recent version of BaudBandit is.  I have
>  V1.50 and until recently, I was willing to live with its various little
>  `indiscretions' because I found Baud Bandit to be very functional (and I
>  have no need for fancy terminal emulations).  The scripting, AREXX,
>  review buffer, and independent window features are all first rate.
> 
>  About a year ago, I saw mention in AmigaWorld of a version 1.52. After
>  writing PP&S, they informed me 1.50 was current but still I wonder.  Any
>  way, the big problem I have now is that BaudBandit cannot deal with the
>  message editor in DLG; line formatting gets all screwed up and I'm told
>  that other terminal programs do not have these problems. So unless there
>  is an upgrade, I guess I'm in the market for a new terminal program.  Too
>  bad - I had grown rather attached to BB (sentimental about software -
>  sheesh!).
> 

Are you referring to the full screen editor in Dialog?  I also use BaudBandit
V1.50 and no longer have a problem with the full screen editor since setting
True CR/LF to ON. It should solve your problem.

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From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: NComm 2.0 at last!
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:12:09 GMT
Organization: The Veronica Lake Fan Club

James_Mcormond@jammys.amiga.ocunix.on.ca (James Mcormond) writes:

> Because the pirating networks were setup so well, that it would be on all
> the greatest BBS's before it was on the first shelf at store.
> 
> I don't know about 8 years, but Yes, it has been a popular computer for
> years, simply because you could get all your games for Free.  Why buy a
> Nintendo, when you can pirate all your commodore software.
> 
> Jammer

I think the reason no one produces much for the 64 anymore is because it 
is an old dinosaur.  The fact that it has lived this long is amazing.

As for the groups getting thing out fast, this is to some extent true, 
but you must also consider that most of this stuff was hoarded within the 
"elite" circle, and your average user didn't see it until long after the 
title was available on the shelf.


"Sometimes what you say is going to fly right in the faces of the 
powerful people who really run this world, but you don't care...you know 
it's your place to challenge authority..."

                                          Rockerboy
From: WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: RexxArpLibrary 3.0
Date: 11 Apr 92 08:03:43 GMT
 <44510001@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I'll tell you why it is *wrong* to include all the "required" libraries
in the same archive. For one thing, it makes the archives large and
some people still need to download these at 2400 bps. Just because you
have a direct Ethernet connection doesn't mean everyone does. The other
problem is that such things as rexxarplib and VLT get updated at different
times. Rexxarplib 3.0 came out middle of 91, I seem to remember. Suppose
I update that next, say in two months, and someone downloads it, and then
decides to upgrade VLT. He'd get the "old" version with VLT, and would
be screwed. And to include VLT with a new rev of rexxarplib would be silly.

Lastly, your example is wrong. VLT doesn't require rexxarplib at all.
Some example scripts with VLT do require rexxarplib, that's all. Add to
this that I just don't like distributing other people's work with my
own in case you also think I should include all the XPR libraries.
Note, that TERM apparently does include all the XPR's, but not all the
files that are supposed to come with them, not even sure all the XPR docs
are included. Certainly they're not included in the original archives,
and I must say I just hate that.

Finally, remember, this is all free. I'd say you get more than you paid
for... 8^)

        Willy.
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From: disk@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Diskraker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: NComm 2.0 at last!
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:39:11 GMT
Organization: The Veronica Lake Fan Club

James_Mcormond@jammys.amiga.ocunix.on.ca (James Mcormond) writes:
> Do you know why basically no companys create new software for the C64? 
> Because the pirating networks were setup so well, that it would be on all
> the greatest BBS's before it was on the first shelf at store.
Horse puckey.  The software isn't coming out because the computer has 
died of old age and deserves to be buried with respect.  There are newer 
machines to support now.
> 
> I don't know about 8 years, but Yes, it has been a popular computer for
> years, simply because you could get all your games for Free.  Why buy a
> Nintendo, when you can pirate all your commodore software.
Well, I bought mine in '82 and it's '92 now, so you count the years 
yourself.  It was a popular computer because it had better sound and 
graphics than the IBM PC and the Apple computers and cost about 1/4 the 
price.  So many people bought them and kept them that the software 
companies supported it.  You think they would have produced software for 
10 years if they never sold it?
From: Les_Jenkins@lppl.mi.org (Les Jenkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Looking for DLG and C-Net information
Date: 6 Apr 92 06:55:03 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Les's Place BBS

In a message dated Mon  6 Apr 92 01:57, Huebnere@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (robe
wrote:

 H> After all the postings about a month ago comparing these two BBS
 H> programs,
 H> I've narrowed my choices down to them both.  However, I no longer have
 H> the information on how to obtain these programs (manufacturers
 H> addresses,
 H> phone, etc) if it was in fact posted.  I would also like to know if
 H> there
 H> are demo versions of the software or demo boards running so that I can
 H> 
 H> compare the two systems firsthand.  

DLG Info can be gotten by sending an E-Mail message to
access.usak.ca!telepro!INFO (I believe that is the proper address) or by
calling the TPT Support Board in Cananda at a number I don't have handy or
calling the U.S. TPT Support Board known as The Meridan BBS at
(619)457-7810. 

There isn't a demo version of DLG available only because it would probably
be a good trick to pull off considering how the system is designed. (lots
of little programs with no main program to cripple) However if you find a
friendly DLG sysop, they can show you around the system entirely from
on-line as thats where everything is set-up and run from anyways.

As for DLG systems you can call to check out, you're free to call mine at
(313)391-6856 for an idea of what can be done with the software or try Ray
Hine's system "Dreamstates" or the Amiga Gateway II as two DLG systems I
know have been set up pretty well. Vitas P. runs a pretty nice DLG as well,
but I don't have the numbers to the above handy either at the moment
although you can probably find them on here in their respective signature
files.

 H> I don't want to start another DLG vs. C-Net thread (although the first
 H> was
 H> far more informative than inflamatory), so if you have info that might
 H> help
 H> be decide one way or another (or to suggest a third alternative)
 H> please email
 H> and I will summarize in this group.

Really, beyond personal preference, most of the info of any relevance was
posted and debated back a month or so ago. If you have any specific
questions I will be happy to try and answer them in E-Mail or forward them
to someone more knowledgeable than myself if I can not answer them
personally.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.991

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From: reiter@a.cs.okstate.edu (REITER MALCOLM LEE)
Subject: Re: Still need help with AmigaNOS...
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:21:47 GMT

Just curious, but what is AmigaNOS?

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From: jtillema@cs.arizona.edu (John E. Tillema)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Saving XPR Configs (VLT)
Keywords: XPR,VLT,Config
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:54:38 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

With all this talk about getting xprzmodem to work with resumes
using sz, how do you save the configs for xprzmodem (and I assume
most other xpr protocols as well) in VLT?  I use the external 
options menu and then do a save config, but next time I run
VLT, the changes have disapperead.  Any clues how to fix this?

Thanks,
John
jtillema@caslon.cs.arizona.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:3473 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:8615
From: mx8@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A2065 works in Bodega Bay!
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:51:44 EST
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University


   Hi there.  I thought I'd just let everybody know that I have successfully
tested the A2065/AS225 package on an Amiga 500 with Bodega Bay.  Aside from
some software problems I am now directly hooked to the net!  Hat's off to 
Industrial Color Labs in Fayetteville, New York, for its invaluable assistance
to this test.

    Eric Beyer
    Cornell University CNPP
From: kurt@iesd.auc.dk (Henrik Wendt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: .zom
Date: 2 Apr 92 14:28:38 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


Anybody having a clue, how to uncompress .zom files?

thanks in advance 
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From: sbiddle@aviate.cavebbs.gen.nz (Steve Biddle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re:  Forcing WB2.0 to start in a backdrop window
Distribution: world
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:45:58 +1200
Organization: Steves Amiga - Wellington, New Zealand.

In article <70191@ut-emx.uucp> bazooka@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bob Anderson) writes:
>In article <3290@svin02.info.win.tue.nl> dedos3@info.win.tue.nl writes:
>>In article <702825983.9322@minster.york.ac.uk> stuart@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>>>How does one tell WB2.0 to start in a Backdrop window (as in WB1.3)
>>>rather than in a framed window?
>
>All you need to do is go to prefs, click on the WBconfig icon and then
>chose which mode you want, and then save it.  It will open to to your
>choice the next time you reboot.

WBConfig is obselete under 2.04, and is not on the disks. The only way to
do it is to select BackDrop from the WB menu, and then do a snapshot.

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From: kenny@mazurka.UUCP (Kenneth Yarnall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: Alternate window size question
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.27 2/17/92 (Beta) by Mike Schwartz
Date: 11 Apr 92 10:37:28 EST
Organization: Math Department, USC

In article <1992Apr10.140936.18154@sparky.imd.sterling.com> mark@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Buglewicz) writes:
>In article <8APR199211252071@ucsvax.sdsu.edu> civir1070@ucsvax.sdsu.edu (FURRY R) writes:
>>How do I set the size that a window goes to under 2.0 when you click the
>>zoom gadget?  I know there is a way "/alt/0/0/640/400" or something
>>like that, but I cannot find any information in teh manual about it.

There is no information in the manual about it, but the correct syntax is
ALT0,9,100,122.  Also accepted is ALT0/0/100/122.  Append either of these to
the window specification.

>I have a related question:  Is there any way to set the the zoom size for
>non-shell windows (i.e. drawer windows) ?

I don't think so, no.  Well, you could rewrite Workbench... :-)

>Mark Buglewicz               UUCP:     uunet!sparky!mark
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From: pte900@jatz.aarnet.edu.au (Peter Elford)
Subject: MSH - Insufficient Free Storage
Reply-To: P.Elford@aarnet.edu.au
Organization: AARNet
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 23:59:54 GMT

Amiga 500 with 1Mb total memory - external floopy - no hard disk.

Has 1.2 ROMs, running WB 1.3.

Trying to get the MSH DOS floopy reading stuff going ...

I have editted the MountList, and put the the two files 
where they should be. I can mount the device, but when
I stick a DOS floppy into the external drive (the one
configured to run MSH) it comes up as DF1:BAD. If I try
to DIR MS1: I get the response

Insufficient Free Storage

I have plenty of free memory; perhaps no disk space on the boot WB floppy ??? 

Do I need one or more libraries to run MSH ? If so, what versions ?

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From: celmer@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Philip)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Looking for printer driver
Keywords: Okidata 193+
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:30:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I have had an Okidata 193+ for some time now and I'm still looking for
an appropriate driver so that I can make it compatible with my amiga.
I would appreciate any advice on this matter.

                                       -Phil

   P.S.  If I should be posting this to other newsgroups, let me know.
From: civir1070@ucsvax.sdsu.edu (FURRY R)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Alternate window size question
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:25:00 GMT
Organization: Alphabetical (Except on Tuesdays)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

How do I set the size that a window goes to under 2.0 when you click the
zoom gadget?  I know there is a way "/alt/0/0/640/400" or something
like that, but I cannot find any information in teh manual about it.

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: LZ vs. LHARC - Which is fastest?
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 05:35:25 GMT

miller@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Geoffrey M. Miller) writes:
>This is a trivial little question, but which program is actually faster:
>
>LZ or LHARC (and what is the latest version I should get) ?

Actually, LhA is supposed to be faster than both.  I never test such things,
but LhA does seem to be the best.  Too, it has lots of options, most of which
I will never use, but I like having them anyway ;-).

-- Gerald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: chris@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Chris Wolf)
Subject: Re: LZ vs. Lharc
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:34:17 GMT

In article <9204090537.AA17775@teetot.acusd.edu> gs@TEETOT.ACUSD.EDU (Greg Simon) writes:
>
>
>LZ is _definitely_ the faster one.  I have noticed significant speed
>increases using it--and no CRC check problems!
>
>It will handle .lzh *and* .lha !!!!
>
>-Greg 
>
Yes LZ is faster than Lharc but LhA is much faster than either of them.
LhA is currently at version 1.22 and is available from ab20 in the
incoming/amiga directory as a self-extracting archive title something
like LhA_e122.run.
					- Chris Wolf
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From: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: How do I unzoo a file to another drive?
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:22:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr13.022256.3041
Reply-To: pierce@navo.navy.mil (Jim M. Pierce)
Distribution: usa
Organization: POPS Operations
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-27525]: spop.navo.navy.mil

In article <1992Apr8.151901.4072@natinst.com>, darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie) writes:
|> 
|>  I was wondering how to send the extracted zoo files to another drive while they are being extracted.  For example if I have all of my .zoo files in ram and I want the extracted files to go to df1: instead of putting the extracted files
|> in ram.  I havent figured out how to do this so I always run out of memory sinceram(or a disk) has to hold both the extracted file and the .zoo(unextracted) 
|> file.  I know on lharc I just type  lharc x filename.lhz df1: but how do I do
|> this for zoo.  I looked at the zoo help file but still dont understand.
|> 
|> Any help would be appreciated.
|> Darren

   Simple once you realize how.

    1. cd df1:<cr>

    2. start unzoo process
         typical: ram:zoo 'unzoo options' ram:filename<cr>

    3. the unzooed files will now be copied to df1:

  Maybe you need to subscribe to I-AMIGA on Bitnet, the information level
 seems higher there.
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     pierce@navo.navy.mil  Jim Pierce
   { Amiga owner }
From: sbiddle@aviate.cavebbs.gen.nz (Steve Biddle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: LZ vs. LHARC - Which is fastest?
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:41:45 GMT
Organization: Steves Amiga - Wellington, New Zealand.

In article <1992Apr8.203314.26919@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> miller@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Geoffrey M. Miller) writes:
>This is a trivial little question, but which program is actually faster:
>
>LZ or LHARC (and what is the latest version I should get) ?

Oyt of the above 2, LZ is the fastest. However, LHARC has been sorta replaced
by LHA, the latest version being 1.24? which is on ab20. LHA is faster than
LZ, but has suffered from several bugs in previous versions..


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From: ftrapano@galaxy.afit.af.mil (Frank Trapanotto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: .zom
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:55:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: afit.1992Apr06.175518.25592
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology

kurt@iesd.auc.dk (Henrik Wendt) writes:


>Anybody having a clue, how to uncompress .zom files?

>thanks in advance 
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>    Henrik Wendt , Hernigvej 3 -27 , 9220 Alborg X, Danmark.
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.zom indicates a zoom file.  Use zoom5.4 to unarchive it.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu Ayala)
Subject: How to Learn AmigaShell
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 16:07:55 GMT


  Hi folks, are there any good books or references
  to using AmigaShell?  I know how to write shell
  scripts in csh on Unix, and want to do the same
  for AmigaShell.  However the manual doesn't
  say anything other than list the commands.
  I want a book with some examples, etc.

  Thanks, Clare
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: Forcing WB2.0 to start in a backdrop window
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:44:37 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <702825983.9322@minster.york.ac.uk> stuart@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
 >How does one tell WB2.0 to start in a Backdrop window (as in WB1.3)
 >rather than in a framed window? 

Select the Backdrop menu item and after that, Snapshot the Workbench window.

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