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From: durian28@ecst.csuchico.edu (dl)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Who owns Interactive Network?
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:48:17 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: bolger.ecst.csuchico.edu

Could someone please tell me who owns Interactive Network.
And if it is listed in the stock market, which stock
exchange?

Thanks in advance.

-dennis-
From: brad@optilink.COM (Brad Yearwood)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: 401K--to rollover or not?
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:02:28 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <EVERETTM.93Jan4110358@noman.Cayman.COM>, everettm@Cayman.COM (Mark Everett) writes:
>    >richb@jti.com (Richard Braun) writes:
>    >
>    >Be sure that you do a direct transfer to the IRA rather than take a
>    >distribution from the 401(k). Otherwise, your former employer is required to
>    >withhold 20% which you have to then "make up" when you place the money in
>    >an IRA. You'll get the 20% back, of course, (as a tax credit I think). But
>    >if the amount in your 401(k) is substantial, and you can't make the 20%
>    >yourself, it becomes INCOME taxed at your rate with the 10% tacked on.
> 
> I asked the financial powers around here what was going on.  The answer I heard ;-)
> was that a lot of people were taking their distribution, not rolling it over, and
> not paying the taxes on it.  (I guess the of loosing one's job, not having
> sufficient cushion, and not being able to get another one in a reasonable amount
> of time in today's economic climate isn't considered a hardship.  The government
> always gets *their's* first!)
> 

I have a darker view.  The claim that people were not rolling over and not
paying taxes is mostly a smokescreen.  There were almost certainly people who
did this, but I'd bet the numbers weren't all that significant.  I'd bet that
that this law is more likely the result of lobbying by insurance companies
and by some companies whose sleazy 401(k) plans offer mostly company stock.

Insurance and management companies (I'll name one pair from personal experience
from a previous employer: Aetna and Security Pension Management Services) can
have execrable customer service and high fees.  Any sensible investor will want
to get their investment out of there, and into some place with more competitive
and responsive management and fee structure.

When you tell Xxx Insurance that you're moving your money to a mutual fund
family or a stock broker, they'll almost certainly take the opportunity to
pester you mercilessly about the increased risk, and have you sign a stack
of disclaimer forms which trickle in slowly over the course of, say, a year,
before they actually move your money (minus 8+% "deferred sales charge").

It is bad law.  Write your congresscritter to complain, and point out that this
law was probably lobbied into existence by vested interests.  (I'll write mine,
as soon as I can figure out who it is - we've been re-districted.)

Brad Yearwood   brad@optilink.com     {uunet, pyramid}!optilink!brad
Petaluma, CA
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Electronic stock prices
From: Dimitri Vulis <DLVGC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 12 Jan 1993 22:17:20 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <323@heimdall.sdrc.com>, festeve@sgcpu1 (Steve Saunders) says:
>I am looking for stock prices in electronic form.  I would like to get
>daily prices, and also historical data.
I've working as a consultant for folks who use quantitative techniques
in investing.  Sometimes we need to run a backtesting simulation, answring
the question, what would have happened if we had picked stocks according
to a certain scheme for 15 years?  For this we needed daily price/dividend
data for many years.  Amazingly, such data is very hard to come across
and is very expensive. I doubt you'll find it FTPable anywhere.

1. The Center for Research in Security Prices in Chicago sells annual
tapes listing every price/dividend/distribution since about 1960.
It's also very helpful in tracking mergers and name changes.
They have one tape for NYSE/Amex and one for NASDAQ.  A tape published
in August of year n has data until December n-1.

Problems: they don't list Canadian companies.  The tape contains
practically raw data, you need to write your own programs to retrieve it.

Cost: I know that for academic users it's much less.

2. PC/Plus Compustat from McGraw-Hill offers historical data on CD-ROMs.
Problems: most data only goes back 10 years, and some only 5 years.
The front-end for accessing the data is a nightmare.
Cost: astronomical.  I know we're getting a lot of optional features
and paying $45K / year (no kidding).

I hope this helps.
Dimitri
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Who owns Interactive Network?
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:39:34 GMT
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology

durian28@ecst.csuchico.edu (dl) writes:

>Could someone please tell me who owns Interactive Network.
>And if it is listed in the stock market, which stock
>exchange?

>Thanks in advance.

>-dennis-

It is a public company listed under the symbol INNN on NASDAQ.

				Sincerely,

				Dave Kristofferson

				kristoff@net.bio.net
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: < $5000:don't buy stock?
Reply-To: Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:53:22 GMT

In <1993Jan6.191820.18446@88opensi.88open.ORG> sartin@88opensi.88open.ORG (Rob Sartin) writes:

>In article <1993Jan6.023232.15955@Happy-Man.com> Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com writes:
>>What difference does the price of the stock make?  There's no 
>>meaningful penalty for buying an odd lot!  Thus it's smartest to 

>The is one meaningful penalty: minimum commissions.  Let's
>consider $1000 invested through Charles Schwab with the 10%
>commission reduction for electronic orders.

That's not a penalty for odd-lot investing, it's a penalty for
being a small investor and would apply equally to 100 shares of a
$10 stock or 21 shares of IBM.

Minimum commissions might be an argument for buying 4 stocks
instead of 14, but if you like them (roughly) equally well and are
a conservative, value-oriented investor hoping for very big gains,
long term, rather than a quick trade, there's no good reason to let
odd-lot vs. round-lot keep you from investing equal amounts in each
of the 4 (or 14).
no good reason
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From: McAldon International Inc. <mcaldon@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:50 PST
Subject: Re: Janus Twenty Closing to New Investo
Nf-ID: #R:1993Jan11.164858.5775@cbfsb.cb.a:575647066:cdp:1426500330:000:587
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!mcaldon    Jan 11 21:50:00 1993


|I think I understand why a fund would close, but if anyone wants to give
|me his/her ideas, I'd be interested in hearing them.  My big question,
|though, is "is this a good thing or a bad thing for me, and is there
|anything I should do?"
|Scott D. Brenner                  AT&T Counsumer Communications Services

Funds generally close in order to avoid becoming (more) unwieldy.  At
least that's what they claim, and it makes sense.  DMcKenzie

|    mcaldon@igc.org     | Opinions dispensed herein not guaranteed |
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From: fewings@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Fewings David)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: How can I profit by investing $20?
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:58:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan8.005820.18965
Organization: Western Washington University

>In article <1993Jan7.004749.19995@news.columbia.edu> rs69@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Rong Shen) writes:
>>Hi Experts:
>>
>>	At this moment, I have just $20 in my pocket. I can not take
>>the delight in thinking about buying 100 shares of stocks each of
>>which is worth $150. In what kind of investments can I stake my $20?
>>How can I get started?
>>
>>	Thanks very much.

How about finding someone you trust with $20.00 who also invests in the market The next time they invest in penny stocks or out of the money options worth up to 20 cents each, ask him/her to invest your $20.00 as well.  This is much more speculative than a 5% interest rate but...its much more interesting as well.
 Chances are you will get interested in the market and end up with millions
 some day.  
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Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: kbalasub@sparcle.oracle.com (Kris Balasubramanian)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Offering Free Investment Newsletter
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:31:43 GMT
Reply-To: kbalasub@sparcle.oracle.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

Pl include me in your mailing list.


kris B
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: sartin@88open.ORG (Rob Sartin)
Subject: Re: What triggers a stop loss order?
Reply-To: sartin@88opensi.UUCP (Rob Sartin)
Organization: 88open Consortium Ltd., San Jose
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 18:27:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.171608.23183@epas.toronto.edu> gkirikos@epas.utoronto.ca (George Kirikos) writes:
>The stop loss is triggered when a trade occurs at $25 or less. There's
>something called a "Market if Touched" order (MIT), which I believe
>would occur under the other situation you described (although I could
>be wrong -- I've yet to see a good description of a MIT order).

According to my 1985 copy of Barron's  _Dictionary of Finance and Investment
Terms_, a stop order is always placed out of the money (a buy is always
placed above market, a sell always below market) while a MIT may be in the
money (at least according to their example which lists a MIT buy order being
placed below market).  Both are turned into market orders when there is a
trade at the target price.

Disclaimer: I'd never heard of MIT orders until I read George's post.

Rob
From: jb6k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joel Bloch)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: snapple IPO
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:15:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gfGNTs600iUzQ1EHgI
	<27559@sybase.sybase.com>
Organization: Doctoral student, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

The point of my original posting was not that you can't make money with
IPO's; clearly you can, but that at the actual public offering, the
small investor is usually shut out so that it is not a level playing
field for hot stocks. After the institutions stop flipping their stock
around, the small investor has the same chances as everyone else. People
who were able to get into Snapple at $28 and watched it go to $40 could
have made more money than the institutions. My original posting,
however, was in response to what I sensed was a somewhat naive feeling
some people had to being able to play with the big boys on a highly
publicized IPO.
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: sood@moon.ral.rpi.edu (Deepak Sood)
Subject: Borland
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:57:03 GMT

Hello,

   Does anybody have an idea why Borland is trading so low these
days? It has been losing constantly and I believe that the high
last year was around 80. Is it a good buy?

Thanks,
Deepak.
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: jcarroll@bach.udel.edu (James Carroll)
Subject: Cable Car Beverage (NASDAQ: DRNK)
Organization: University of Delaware Alumni
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:14:43 GMT

Anybody have any information/thoughts on this stock?  

-James

-- 
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I've been feeling kinda wild since I turned seventeen | Then I was a saint
- Melissa Etheridge, "Ain't It Heavy"                 | -The Glove,
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-jcarroll@brahms.udel.edu-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-| "Like An Animal"
From: mgj@cup.portal.com (Mark Gregory Jurik)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Investment magazines also
Date: Sat,  9 Jan 93 20:58:56 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <1993Jan8.023011.18518@tandem.com>

About Money Magazine.....

I've been under training by a professional stock broker and one time award
winning futures trader.  The most commonly made joke that is said with earnest
is that you can make easy money by *shorting* whatever Money Magazine 
recommends.

Food for thought.

M Jurik
Jurik Research
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: lsaid@netcom.com (Loai Said)
Subject: Re: Historical Data
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 04:56:55 GMT

leo@avs.com (Leo O'Donnell) writes:

>    Does anyone know where I can find historical data of commodity
>    prices in electronic form?


     It's available on Compuserve but it costs to use this service, they
will chare you per stock + connect charges + database surcharge, login
compuserve if you're interested to get more details. Good luck.

-- 
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                    *******       |   You won't live forever
                     *****        |   Don't worry
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Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: suhre@meltami.dsd.trw.com (Maurice E. Suhre)
Subject: Re: Load Funds
Organization: TRW, INC.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:13:11 GMT

In article <5JAN199308581541@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> vvsvdoc@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MICHAEL SEESE) writes:

>In short, what would you consider to be a better investment: an 8%
>loaded fund that *consistently* has yearly returns of 30%, or a no-load
>fund that consistently returns 10%?

The answer to the above question
is obvious.  My question is this:
How do you determine which loaded funds
are going to do well?  In fact, is there
any evidence that load funds do better than
no-load funds on some average basis?
-- 
Maurice Suhre
suhre@trwrb.dsd.trw.com
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: gj196476@alfred.carleton.ca ( gj student 196476)
Subject: Start Your Own Business
Summary: Great profit potential in the business of network marketing products.
Keywords: MLM
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:11:48 GMT

 If you are interested, or are involved in network marketing, please
send me a message.  There is great profit potential for those who are
interested in starting their own business.  It's very easy and has
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independent in 3-5 years.  Yes, I mean you can retire at an early age.
I've talked to lots of people who have done this.  Send me a message
if you are interested.
Bye.

Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: acheng@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Albert Cheng)
Subject: "seasonal adjusted"
Originator: acheng@shalom.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:53:37 GMT


What does the term "seasonal adjusted" mean?  E.g. Seasonal adjusted
unemployment is down 40,000 for the Christmas week.  Or seasonal
adjusted new houses started.  Does the government say, "well, it is
holiday season, everyone is on vacation for two out of the five days.
Let us doctor the numbers and report only 60% of the unemployed
figures." Can someone explain?
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 20:06:24 EST
From: <AXD2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: OK, what about THIS strategy?
 <1993Jan8.215708.7319@cs.yale.edu>

About 10 years ago Barrons reported a university study that said that
investing in the 10% of stocks with the lowest PE and holding for a year from
about 1920 to about 1980 would result in a performance about 3% per year better
than the market.
                Chuck Dollins
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: meyers@lorenz.ocean.fsu.edu (Steve Meyers)
Subject: Re: Tucson Electric (TEP)
Organization: Florida State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 16:31:49 GMT

In article <1ihktaINNchq@hp-col.col.hp.com> thait@col.hp.com (Thai Tran)  
writes:
> kmcintyr@boi.hp.com (Kevin McIntyre) writes:
> > Anyone know what's up with this company.  I know about the 
> > "problems" last year but today the volume was > 8 million.
> 
> As I recall TEP just recently completed restructuring of the company.   
As
> part of the restructuring, TEP issued about 135 million new common  
shares
> (TEP had about 25 million shares outstanding before this).  I think  
it'll
> take awhile before they sell all of the new shares, and I believe this  
is
> the cause of the sharp rise in the trading volume in the last few weeks.
> 
> 

I recall a statement by some top TEP official stating that they 
did not expect to start making money again for a few years. 
Is this right? If not, if they return to profitability soon, its
probably a good time to buy the stock.

Steve
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: scott@darwin.life.uiuc.edu (Scott Howard)
Subject: Re: Money Stinks for Stock Advice, was Investment magazines
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:09:35 GMT

I`d be suspicious of any advice I got for free-

Cynical Internal Dialog follows:

Here`s the product of my research, and instead of making money on it
myself, I`m going to give you all this wonderful advice because I`m
so terribly kind? 

More likely, I`ve got a large, speculative position and I want to push
an issue in a favorable direction and get out when all the stiffs follow
my advice.
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   Coffee merely increases your perception of your own inadequacies.
4) Tea is to coffee as ginger ale is to Scotch.
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Financial Investco Info wanted
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:27:31 GMT

I read an article recommending Financial Investco's Liesure fund. I understand
they also have an environmental fund. Does anyone have any info on this family
of funds? Recommendations etc?

*****************************************************************
John R. Cobarruvias, Texas A&M Class of '78, 
NASA Johnson Space Center Houston Tx.
(713)483-9357

"And to think..................I hesitated" (Hellraiser II)
*****************************************************************
From: tjordan@atlas.corp.sgi.com (Ted Jordan)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Good Books on Stock Investing...Recommendations?
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:15:44 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


I have been dabbling in the stock market for the last 10 years or
so, just doing simple buys and sells.  I am starting to get my nerve up
and I'm interested in getting into margins, puts, calls, short sells,
longs, etc.  Unfortunately, I don't know what any of these terms really mean,
or how to use these methods to my advantage.

What good books are out there that might explain this to me.  My budget
is under $20 for the book.  ( I mention this to avoid recommendations of 
the type found in the back of Inc. magazines, and the like, that charge
$200 for basic info).

Thanx!!

tj


--
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Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: kmcintyr@boi.hp.com (Kevin McIntyre)
Subject: Tucson Electric (TEP)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:27:41 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]


Anyone know what's up with this company.  I know about the 
"problems" last year but today the volume was > 8 million.
I didn't find anything about the company or news releases
either.  Any info?  I'll check out the "stock" shows tonight
to see what they say but typically they just say "no one
returned our call..." or "there was nothing on the wires..."
Maybe it'll be different tonight.

				Thanks.
				   Kevin.
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: watanabe@cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe)
Subject: Re: $200/month for 18 years investment
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:43:58 GMT

sstasuke@ncrsoph.Sophia.NCR.COM (Steve Stasukewicz) writes:


>I have a 3-month old son, and am starting to save now for his education.
>I have budgeted $200 month to "put away" for him until he is 18 years old.
>( Or whenever he graduates from college.  If he takes after his mother's
>side, it may be later.  I hope she doesn't read this.  :)  Anyway, where
>should I invest this $$$ to maximize my earnings?   

>Any advice is appreciated.

>Thanks 

>Steve

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Why not choose a really high risk mutual fund, like 20C Ultra
or 20C Giftrust? If you are investing over an 18 year time period,
then you can afford the risk, and the return should be greater
(since in general investments should offer equal risk-adjusted
rates of return in order to be competitive).

Also, 20Century has a fairly good track record (I think the
best) over the last 20 years.

-Larry Watanabe watanabe@cs.uic.edu
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: tcbd@cbnews.cb.att.com (tom.c.b.davison)
Subject: Re: Israeli and Asian stock funds
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:34:23 GMT

> In article <ll3j7hINNgk@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> leons@hiroller.Eng.Sun.COM () writes:
> >How does one find out about stock funds that represent a country
> >or a geographical region?  For example, there is an Emerging Mexico
> >Fund that trades just like a regular stock.  Are there similar
> >stock funds for Israel and for Asian countries (Thailand, Singapore,
> >Indonesia, Taiwan)?
> 
try a mutual fund rating service, like morningstar.  available in
many libraries.
Also, since this is the end of the year, a lot of the financial
magazines have summaries of performance.  might try the bookstore.
As a number of these funds are closed end funds, they are listed in
a special place - "publically traded funds" in each monday's wall
street journal (section c) and each week's barrons.  Note the 
discount/premium to net asset value for them.
  Asian funds are popular now.  most any of the big fund families
have them.  call Scudder, for example.