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From: m713@hosp.med.umich.edu (Gerald Ross)
Subject: Boston Acoustic Sub Sat 6
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: gerald.b.ross@um.cc.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan Math Dept
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:24:22 GMT

I'm considering buying a set of Boston Acoustics Sub Sat 6
speakers for my system.  How do these compare with other
satellite systems.

What about Cambridge sound works system?

Thanks in advance
From: kyn@soul.tv.tek.com (Ky Nguyen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Help how can I order B&O 12" woofer model S-75
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:06:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: sail.12723
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix TV Products
Originator: kyn@soul.tv.tek.com

Hello every Netters,

I have B & O speaker, it broke a 10" subwoofer.
I woul like to order a new one but too expensive if I order
throught Chealsea Audio.

So, anyone out there know the place to order the B&O woofer, please
let me know or Email to me.

My B&O speaker Model S-75

Thanks In advance.

Nguyen  Email: kyn@soul.tv.tek.com
From: jj@alice.att.com (jj, all-around curmudgeon)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Black rubber CD rings - Any good ?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:53:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23833
Reply-To: jj@alice.UUCP (jj, all-around curmudgeon)
Organization: NJ State Home for Bewildered Terminals

In article <1992Oct7.090051.15754@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:
>   The only thing they DO do is keep the edges from chipping if you happen
>to drop the CD on concrete. They do NOTHING for the sound. It's another
>Green Magic Marker phenomenon.

I must disagree. I have documented an audible difference caused by
a CD weighting ring. (damper, it was called)

In particular, in one CD player, it changed the startup time from
about 2 seconds to about 8 seconds, because it destabilized the
speed servo mechanism (I could hear it hunting).  Furthermore,
when one went from inside (early) to outside (late) track on a long
CD, the servo was entirely unable to cope with the speed change,
and gave up altogether and quit.  The player stopped, flashed some
lights, and ejected the CD drawer with the CD on it.

That is most certainly an audible effect.  If nothing else, I could
hear the CD drawer move.
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From: digdug@iastate.edu (Doug V Tran)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: DENON AMP OPERATING  INSTRUCTION>
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:22:07 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

found this on rec humor, I know it doesn't really belong here but it's
kinda funny.

This is an extract from the operating instructions that come with a Denon
amplifier......


				DENON
			INTEGRATED STEREO AMPLIFIER
				PMA-350


			OPERATING INSTRUCTIONS






 Please check to make sure the following items are included with the main unit
 in the carton:
      (1) Operating Instructions.................................   1

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thanks,
later,
doug
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: HELP! - STEREO VCRs
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:54:52 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Oct16.140844.1487@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> cwilliams@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>I just bought a Hi-Fi Toshiba VCR with VCR+ but now I'm 
>worried that it isn't really "stereo"  - if it is not I can still take 
>it back but can someone help please!!!

    Post the model number for an exact answer.  If the list price
    was about 500 or over, it is very likely a hi-fi- stereo.

    There are two types of stereo tapes (and VCR's) .  

    The older type of stereo uses the linear tracks on the tape aned
    sounds a lot like a very cheap cassette deck.  These are almost
    obsolete except for loss-leader priced units.

    The formal name for the new variety is VHS Hi-Fi Stereo.  This
    records the audio with separate heads along with the video...and
    rivals a top-line cassette deck or even CD's for sound quality.

    If you have the Batman tapes and your stereo light comes on, you
    have the newer, better type.
>
>Write to me directly if you'd like.  Any suggestions on VCR's that 
>I should buy are  useful too!
>
>
  Toshiba's are ok, particularly if you get the one with the built
  in Digital Audio recording feature.
From: jeffr@ora.com (Jeff Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: At what speed does a CD spin?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:39:05 GMT
Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Cambridge, MA
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 7 Oct 92 12:36:00 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11

Does anyone know at what speed a CD spins (in RPM's)?  My band is
pressing a CD.  The artwork on the CD will look like a vinyl record. And
the label will say ??? RPM.

Please send me EMail as i need this info ASAP.  Thanks.
From: bill@rsphys.anu.edu.au (Bill Alford)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Alon II, IV speakers
Date: 12 Oct 1992 07:16:55 GMT
Organization: SCU, RSPhyScE, Australian National University, Canberra
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bill@rsphys.anu.edu.au
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.15.106

I'm seeking comments about the new Alon II and the more expensive Alon
IV speakers.

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From: dwl@apple.com (David Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Best speakers < $1000
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:56:40 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

Hi,

I'd like to get some recommendations on the best set of speakers I can buy
for under $1000. My current favorite is the RM-3000 3-piece system 
(1 subwoofer, 2 satellites) from Polk Audio. Does anyone know how thse
compare to the 3-piece system from Bose? I'm also interested in the
Infinity Micro II system.  I was very impressed with the "stereo imaging"
of the Polk system. That's why I'm so interested in these 3-piece systems.
But I'm also willing to consider the standard 2 speaker configuration.

Please reply by E-mail since I do not read news frequently. 

Thanks
-David
dwl@apple.com


Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: 6th Ave. mail order SUMMARY
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:20:57 GMT

hochberg@misty.boeing.com (michael hochberg) writes:

>The very best mail order stereo/video/stuff house I have found
>is Crutchfield.

Crutchfield does have a nice catalog, but most of their prices are too
high. Everything I've priced locally has been cheaper than Crutchfield's
prices.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: andrew@alice.att.com (Andrew Hume)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: D->A Converter Recommendation
Summary: theta 3
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:51:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23841
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



	the most recent stereophile gave a glowing review to teh latest theta
processor (the 3 or III). it is $3-4K. i have no personal experience.
Newsgroups: rec.audio,rec.video,misc.consumers
From: forman@ide.com (Bonnie Forman)
Subject: Re: Problems dealing with this mail order outfit
Organization: Interactive Development Environments, SF
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 14:43:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.223033.15614@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>In article <Bw2KxB.33t@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>>forman@ide.com (Bonnie Forman) writes:
>
>>>  The extended warranty said immediate replacement, which was
>                               ^^^^^^^^^
>>>  was extremely important to me.
>
>>Ok, so you paid for faster service and not for an extended warranty.
>>It still doesn't sound like you got much for your money.  It is a
>>fallacy that every failed item has to go back to the factory.  I've
>>gotten local service on warranted Sony items (even on one purchased
>>mail order) in days.  Maybe you should try shopping at a store with a
>                ^^^^
>>service department.
>
>When you're using something daily in your business, "days" is not an
>acceptable MTTR (mean time to repair).
>
>Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com

   Exactly!  Thank you.

	Bonnie

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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: Robert.Biddle@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Robert Biddle)
Subject: Price of Klipsh Heresy IIs?
Reply-To: Robert.Biddle@Comp.VUW.Ac.NZ
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:02:03 GMT


A friend of mine is returning to the US, and wants to sell her
speakers, which are Klipsh Heresy IIs.

I know of the Klipsh name, but Klipsh speakers are not at all common
here in New Zealand. 

She says they were bought in the US about 5 years ago, but she doesn't
remember the price.

So: I would appreciate it if someone could tell me what these might
have cost when new, and am interested in any ideas about what is a 
fair price now. I'm also willing to listen to any comments about
the speakers themselves, although I can listen to them for myself.

Thanks
Robert
From: gjm11@cus.cam.ac.uk (G.J. McCaughan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Why switch to CD?
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:17:01 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

In article <1992Oct6.064803.25275@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, jacob@max.cc.brandeis.edu ( ) writes:

> just a piece of trivia: some mentioned the advantage the CD has over
> a the LP in term of durability. well, i read a few years ago
> in the boston phoenix quarterly (?) electronics supplement there existed
> a "laser turntable" that reads (only black) vinyl LPs with a laser beam.
> of course you can still melt your LPs in the oven if you wish but you can
> do pretty nasty things to you CDs also if you want. the point is a "laser
> turntable" doesn't put an LP to more wear than a CD player does a CD.
> also given that the "laser turntable" reads the depth of the groove optically,
> conceivably one could imagine a coating process whereby you could have your
> LPs layered with a transparent layer of something that would forever render
> them immune to dust as well. the only problem is, according to the boston
> phoenix, the laser turntable exists, its r&d is completed but it is not
> in production.

Um. If I remember correctly, this laser turntable had very great difficulty in
distinguishing between the real bottom of the groove and the dust in the groove
(a stylus avoids this because it pushes the dust out of the way). You would have
to be VERY careful with cleaning your records if you had one of these beasts.
No thanks.

-- 
Gareth McCaughan     Dept. of Pure Mathematics & Mathematical Statistics,
gjm11@cus.cam.ac.uk  Cambridge University, England.    [Research student]
From: jj@alice.att.com (jj, curmudgeon and all-around grouch)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Golden Ears?
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:49:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23834
Reply-To: jj@alice.UUCP (jj, curmudgeon and all-around grouch)
Organization: NJ State Home for Bewildered Terminals

In article <1992Oct7.105028.18004@alf.uib.no> resou@darcy.mi.uib.no (Odd Arild Urtveit) writes:
>In article <23819@alice.att.com>, jj@alice.att.com (jj, all-around curmdgeon and outright grough) writes:
>> In article <1992Oct6.024047.21236@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> crgoc@orlando.uk.cray.com (Gary O'Connor) writes:
>
>> >|> >Who in this group can here if the speakers are reversed polarity?
>> >|> >what are these audible effects.

>> >|> Maybe audible, may not be.
>> Certainly audible if you have cheap loudspeakers, no doubt about that.
>> Less so if you use good headphones...

>I have to make a comment about this.  In my Stax Lambda Headphones the effect
>of reversed polarity is easilly heard.  Theese headphones are by many
>concidered some of the best in the world.

Well, we use the same headphones at least.

My impression is that the waveform generated by most drivers
is quite different under compression and rarifaction at higher
levels.  This holds for Stax Lambda Pro's as well as for most
other drivers.  What do you use to drive them?  I've found that
makes a significant difference.


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From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Regrets to this petty newsgroup
Keywords: none that I care to type
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:31:05 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

I keep telling myself:

It's just the NET............

There's no place like home..........

-- 
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chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong)
Subject: Re:  Dolby C vs. dbx
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:41:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.185829.10974@pilot.dmg.ml.com> steveh@pilot.dmg.ml.com (Steve Hannoford) writes:
}
}My understanding with dbx is that its noise reduction is during
}record only, and is not required during playback... Not only
}is it a better reduction system (results in less noise than
}either Dolby B/C), but it is also preferential because it
}works without the requirement that the implementation at
}playback match the implementation used to record....

Not true.  All noise reduction schemes require complementary playback
circuits--ESPECIALLY dbx.   It's HX-Pro that does not require any
playback compensation.  

-- 

Norm Strong  (strong@tc.fluke.com)
2528 31st S.   Seattle WA 98144   USA
From: haverl@cats.ucsc.edu (Carl A Haverl)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Powerful NAD receiver for sale
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:29:29 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


I've decided to move into separates including some (gasp) tube
components, so it's time to clear out my NAD 7175PE receiver.
The unit is NAD brown (not their uglier gray) with black knobs.
It is in mint condition - no scratches or dents.  It features
NAD's "Power Envelope" circuit which provides "soft clipping."
This is supposed to keep you from burning out your tweeters if
you get carried away with the volume control.  I usually kept
this feature turned off because I don't usually blast the sound;
however, this receiver will play incredibly loud.  Have you met
your neighbors yet?

Specs:
  75 watts continous into 8 Ohms both channels driven 20Hz-20kHz
  IHF dynamic headroom 6dB
    peak power 300 watts into 8 Ohms
               400 watts into 4 Ohms
               500 watts into 2 Ohms
    surge current > 40 Amps

Switches:
  mono/ stereo
  bass eq. (on/off) - bass boost for small speakers
  infrasonic filter (on/off) - cuts record warps (remember those?)
  low level (on/off) - cuts volume if, for example, the phone rings
  loudness (on/off)
  speaker (off/a/b/a and b)
  you can record one source while listening to another:
    record selecter (video/cd/tuner/phono/tape1/tape2)
    listen selecter (video/cd/tuner/phono/tape1/tape2)
  back panel switches
    power envelope (on/off)
    phono cartridge (moving coil/moving magnet)

Controls
  volume
  balance
  bass
  treble

Tuner
  up/down
  5 presets
  station scan (on/off)

I paid $688 mail order for this receiver.  It's 4.5 years old.
I believe it listed for $850.  Anyway, I'm asking $295.  You pay
shipping or pick it up.

Carl Haverl
haverl@cats.ucsc.edu
(408) 458-3259
-- 
Carl Haverl
haverl@cats.ucsc.edu

305 Chace St.
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
(408) 458-3259
From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: CD pre-emphasis
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:26:39 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Oct14.165422.6335@news.eng.convex.com> moeller@convex.com (Tom Moellering) writes:
>
>I have several questions about the subject of CD pre-emphasis:
>Is it a frequency contouring curve as well? (like the RIAA curve for LPs?)
   Yup.   
>
>What would one with preemphasis data sound like if it were played without?
   1. A bit bright.  It is a bit of high frequency boost.

   2. Like it was being played back on a player which violated the 
      Sony/Phillips license agreements.  If a disk has been recorded
      with pre-emphasis on, it will contain a digital code which
      turns on the decoder in the player.   

      [Does ANYONE still record with pre-emphasis????   ]
>
>What would one without preemphasis data sound like if it were played with?
>
      A bit dull.....but that would be a broken player.
From: eeh@gasco.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Regrets to this petty newsgroup
Keywords: none that I care to type
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:32:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: gasco.1992Oct7.153249.6529
Organization: Northwest Natural Gas Company of Portland Oregon

In article <1992Oct6.195528.10437@sei.cmu.edu>, jseiler@sei.cmu.edu (Joseph Seiler) writes:
> For all of those who have sent me mail telling me how crappy Bose and Sony are
> have forgot to do one thing. 

   <  rest of this deleted to save my senses >

I must assume his shorts are starched and riding up a bit.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: monitn@vccsouth27.its.rpi.edu (Nicholas Monitto)
Subject: Re: Audio Test CDs - Worth the money ?
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:04:38 GMT

carlwu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Carleton Wu) writes:

>In article <1992Oct9.005846.15706@mel.dit.csiro.au> gre253@mis.csiro.au (Steven
> Green (+61 6 276 6813)) writes:
>>Has anybody out there had any experience with "Audio Test CDs". Not the type
>>the labs use with the amp and speakers disconnected, but the type designed to
>>"tune" and evaluate your system. I've seen a few for sale from time to time.
>>Are they worth the $$$ or are they just a wank ?

>Definately worth the money are the two Chesky Test CDs/Samplers.  Not only do 
>you get useful tracks to evaluate your system but the music tracks are among 
>the finest available on CD (sonically).
>     With their first Test CD, you get the LEDR test with which you can test 
>your imaging.  I used the Bonger test to adjust the MSB trimpots of my player 
>for optimum performance!
>     With their other test disc, you can tests that are less useful for setup 
>but are really fun.  Take for instance the tracks of natural sounds--amazing 
>realism!  There's many more that just make you say "wow!"

>Both are highly recommended.  Even if you could care less about the test 
>tracks, buy 'em for the music!  You can't go wrong.

Another good investment are the test CDs from Stereophile magazine. I got the
first one when I subscribed and haven't gotten around to ordering the second 
one yet. Each near or less than $10 with S&H. The first disk includes:
  Channel ID
  1kHz reference tone
  Phase ID
  Pink noise (correlated and uncorrelated)
  A microphone comparison
  Several music pieces recorded with a variety of equipment
  A series of reference tones from 1kHz down to 20Hz

I'm not sure what the second disc is, but I would hope that it is a companion
rather than a rehash. I'm out of my room now, but if there is interest, I can
post or e-mail more info about the discs and how to order them...

Nick (monitn@rpi.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: nau@ssesco.com (William Nau)
Subject: Re: Power Amp requested
Organization: SSESCO
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:51:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.130222.23458@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, gfl@hera.uucp (22402-lenahan) writes:
|> (Mohan R. Ramanathan) writes:
|> > Hi,
|> > After having just recently purchased a pair of Vandersteen 1b's
|> > I would really like to downgrade (that's right DOWN-grade) my amplifier.
|> > I currently own a Kenwood Basic M2A power amp which is rated by Kenwood
|> > at 200W/ch. Before they went out of business, I had the unit bench tested
|> > at Absolutely Sound in Rockville, MD, and it was tested clean to 260 w/ch.
|> > Because of the delicate nature of the Vandersteens, I would like to drop
|> > down to an amp in the 60-100 w/ch range.
|> 
|> Where, oh where did all the net get the idea that Vandersteens are
|> unusually "delicate".  I know TONS of people who use them for loud
|> rock, and I've personally used 400W monoblocks with 2Cs - extensively.
|> 
|> Point 2:
|> You generally damage speakers by clipping an amp at a high
|> level.  Clipping generates LOTS of high frequency junk (the
|> leading edge of the squared-wave), and this disproportionate
|> amount of energy goes to the poor, forlorn, tweeter, which can
|> lest take the abuse.
|> 
|> So go ahead, get a smaller amp.  Clip sooner, and consequently,
|> BLOW UP YOUR SPEAKERS.
|> 
|> And tell the salesman that gave you this line of doo-doo
|> to get his eyes off your wallat.
|> 
|> Grant
|> 
|> 

Everything Grant said is true and I agree with him.  However a
'downgrade' in power may be an upgrade in quality.  Get rid of
an amplifier that  cares only about power (don't know the amp and
this is just a possibility so no flames please) and get a more
musical amp like a Bryston or PSE (trying to keep in the same
price range here.  feel free to suggest better alternitives) at
the sacrafice of power.  Not a bad idea.  It's what I'm considering 
now with my 200wpc Denon.

As long as I meantioned it, I'll take suggestions.  I've looked
at Parasound, Bryston (too much $$$), Halfler, and B&K.  I would
like something in the ballpark of 100wpc (give or take 50).