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From: mmh@mercury.analog.com (Marc M. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:24:46 GMT
	<1992Sep26.101345.2935@donau.et.tudelft.nl>
	<1992Sep26.183445.18861@gdr.bath.ac.uk>
Organization: Analog Devices Inc, Norwood MA, USA


In article <1992Sep26.183445.18861@gdr.bath.ac.uk> maspab@gdr.bath.ac.uk (P A Broadbery) writes:
Path: analog.com!noc.near.net!uunet!spool.mu.edu!agate!doc.ic.ac.uk!uknet!gdt!maspab
   From: maspab@gdr.bath.ac.uk (P A Broadbery)
   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
   Date: 26 Sep 92 18:34:45 GMT
   References: <92268.132424MBT3@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Sep25.114638.29604@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> <1992Sep26.101345.2935@donau.et.tudelft.nl>
   Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK
   Lines: 26

   In the referenced article, robn@liberator.et.tudelft.nl (Rob van Nieuwkerk) writes:
   >S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz) writes:
   >
   >>[from comp.unix.dos-under-unix - followup to comp.os.linux]
   >>features can equally replace MS Windows. Usually a DOS emulation is
   >>needed to run one or two application which still can not be replaced
   >>(dviscr from emTeX comes to my mind...)
   >
   >How about xdvi ?  Works ok for me.
   >
   >	Rob van Nieuwkerk

   Or for those of us without X11, just grab the sources and replace the
   screen driver with vgalib (from tsx-11:somewhere) and try rebuilding.
   I did this with dvivga, and it works OK, if a little more slowly than
   the DOS version. (Contact me if you want a copy, but I still have to
   take out a few more dos-isms before releasing the next version). 

^^^^Just grab Xega and then you can run xdvi.

   I guess we still need DOS emulation for all those games out there
   though. Anyone have a port of Elite? or Lotus 1-2-3 ?

   Pete

   pab@maths.bath.ac.uk

   Building a PC: first take your silicon....
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marc.hoffman@analog.com
From: troyer@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Dean Troyer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux 0.97 PL 6 detecting bogus bus mice
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:36:04 GMT
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division

In article <1992Sep30.213849.18476@random.ccs.northeastern.edu> mirons@ccs.northeastern.edu (Michael A. Irons) writes:
>
>	I applied this patch to 0.97.6 and it went in fine. My system does
>now detect my PS/2 mouse, and the tst/mouse/mouse program that came w/ X11
>doest something with it (the prog can't speak PS/2, but it does get input)

I modified mouse.c to handle the PS/2 protocol.  with the Microsoft setting
you will see input if it's there, although it's garbage.

>HOWEVER, after that my keyboard dies and IHAVE to power cycle the machine.
>As such I put in a jmp no_psmouse at the start of the code in setup.S to
>deactivate my mouse. It seems that there is a bug somewhere else.

I saw this once today, but thought it was my patch to swap the Caps Lock
and left Ctrl keys.  I suppose the problem is in the fact that the stub
is in real mode and we switch to protected mode immediately after 
installing it.  However, I can't get my mouse recognized at all without
the stub.

Does anyone have a suggestion?  Is this initialization code sacrificed
after the mode switch?  

>-- 
>                                  Mike Irons;
>                       mirons@Dworkin.CCS.Northeastern.EDU	(School)
>                 mirons%minix1.uucp@MecEng.COE.Northeastern.EDU	(Home)

-- 
Dean Troyer                               troyer@saifr00.cfsat.Honeywell.COM
Honeywell Commercial Flight Systems       72240.3152@compuserve.com
Phoenix AZ
(602) 436-3613
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: nomad@castle.org (Lee Damon)
Subject: Re: Does SLS have linux 0.98. "its floppy time"
Organization: The Castle, not-yet-Public Access Un*x Systems; Mahopac, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:35:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.063918.20895@unislc.uucp> erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
>Frank Houston (fh8n@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
>: tsx-11 up to date. 0.98 that is.  If not when will it be?
>
>Like I told someone else ... calm down! :)  Wait until it gets stable...


But, but... but Ed, we want it nnnnoooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwwwww!!!!

For the humor impaired:   :)

What is the name of that little girl in Willy Wonka? The one who wants
everything nnnnoooowwww? "I want a golden egg..."

nomad
(who is just as anxious as everyone else, but will wait, 'cause he has'ta. :)
-- 
play: castle!nomad or nomad@castle.org                                 \
work: nomad@watson.ibm.com                  - Lee "nomad" Damon -       \
Seneschal; The Castle, Public Access Un*x Systems.                     / \
  - Unashamed -                                                       /   \
From: steves@flashy.tay2.dec.com (Stephen J. Stuczynski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Problem Exiting startx (X11)
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:33:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: PA.1992Oct6.173317.19749
Reply-To: steves@flashy.tay2.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp, Littleton MA


	I am currently running Linux V0.97 patch level 6, and when I start X 
with the startx command everything is fine, but when I pulldown the session 
Manager and select exit, it fails to put my monitor back into text mode. Seems
like it doesn't set the right horizonal and vertical freq.'s cause a squealing
sound comes out of my monitor.
	My configuration is a 486dx/33mhz with a Ultra Image board manufactured
by United solutions with the Tseng ET4000 chip. It runs in Vesa compatability
mode and that is the way that I setup the modeDB data in the Xconfig file. My 
Monitor is a Packard Bell 14".

	Thanks in Advance,
			Steve Stuczynski
From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Great marketing (Was Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?)
Keywords: UNIX
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:00:11 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

Ok, so I lie.  I said I wasn't gonna reply to this thread again, and here I
am doing it again...

In article <1992Sep29.032702.16609@microsoft.com> t-piersh@microsoft.com (Piers Haken) writes:
>
>In article <1a7gv0INNc35@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:
>
>[stuff deleted]
>
[stuff deleted]
>>                                                     This when
>>it's as certain as plain daylight that Microsoft will never have
>>a market share as large as what it had in 1987, ever again, 
[stuff deleted]
>>                                       Remember these guys tries writing
>>DOS, Windows, OS/2.

>And how many copies of these have the 'peasants' (as you call them)
>purchased?
>

This is just a guestimate based on what I've seen these users do, but I'd say
approximately a fifth of those who are in posession of it paid for the stuff,
and the rest copied it illegally.

And your point is...?

>>I work hard on educating all the peasants I can find.

As you should.

>>        -ans.
>>-- 
>>Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu

>Piers.

--Brian
__________
Brian Talley, Systems Consultant, Eastman Kodak Research Labs, Rochester, NY
talley@acadia.kodak.com
From: hedrick@geneva.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: NEW: Support for Canadian French (CF) Keyboard
Keywords: kernel keyboard french patch
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:15:43 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

alawrenc@sobeco.com (a.lawrence) writes:

>I have just added support of the Canadian French keyboard to the
>097pl6 kernel.  I will be sending the patch to Linus in a few days
>when I certain that the changes are stable.  So far it is working
>smoothly.   

While I'm glad that Linux is international, it seems that there are
enough national keyboard setups that this doesn't belong in the
kernel.  How about an ioctl to set up the keyboard, and a utility that
reads a configuration file?
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark)
Subject: Re: Great Groff/Nroff subsitute - only 58k (AWF)
Keywords: GROFF NROFF AWF
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:30:27 GMT

In article <badger.718177283@phylo> badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger) writes:
>I have only a 15 MB Linux partition right now, so I have not
>installed groff (over 1MB!). Just today, however, I discovered
>AWF - The AMAZINGLY WORKABLE FORMATTER! AWF is an awk script
>that mimicks "nroff -man". Yes, I know nroff does other things
>than format man pages, but I think that's all most people do with it and
>AWF does it very well. Slowly, yes, but very well. I would not recommend
>using it to format pages "on the fly", but the way I use man, I keep
>compressed formatted man pages in /usr/man/cat1, etc, and AWF works
>well for this purpose. The best part is awf only takes up 58K, about 5%
>of what groff takes up.
>
>AWF is available (among other places) on wuarchive.wustl.edu
>in /mirrors/unix-c/textproc/awf.tar-z.
> 


Another suggestion, which may not work as well, but works for me:
"fm -m".  fm is available on tsx-11 in:
/pub/linux/sources/usr.bin/fm.tar.Z
/pub/linux/binaries/usr.bin/fm.tar.Z

It sometimes doesn't process comment lines well, giving occasional
garbage output, but even the early (May 13) binary I got is only 87k.  
-- 
Al - aclark@netcom.com - My opinions are my own.
From: ucosmo@mcl.ucsb.edu (Boris Burtin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: XFree86 1.1: Which Linux will work with it?
Keywords: xfree
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:53:57 GMT

I just installed the MCC Linux distribution (ver. 97 pl 2).  I am getting
ready to install XFree86.

My question is this: in the README file it states that you need Linux
ver. 97 pl 4.  Does this mean that XFree won't run on my system?  Is there
a way to update to pl 4 from pl 2?

Thanks,

--
     - Boris
(cosmo@cs.ucsb.edu)
From: hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:51:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Sep27.035127.6838
Organization: Washington State University

In article <badger.717563481@phylo> badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger) writes:

[...]

>
>Does anyone really want to remember some obscure macro to do something like
>create a footnote? Ancient PC software like PC-Write used to use imbedded 
>commands like TeX does, but software in DOS-land has since evolved beyond
>the Precambrian. I'm still amazed that UNIX which has such fine development
>tools has such primitive applications... maybe because most UNIX users
>write code but don't run apps? This is not a cut at the Tex enthusists out 
>there - you have my admiration (& sympathy) to write your 500 page dissertationswith what is basically an expanded nroff :).
>TeX does have a future - as an output format created by wysiwyg X editors...
>.

Under LaTeX, footnote is semi-automatic, you just say

\footnote {
This is footnote.
}

It will be placed at the buttoom of the page automatically.

H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sl319001@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mike Shorten)
Subject: Re: How do you link/route a VC to a serial port?
Summary: The info worked very well. Followup question. 
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:05:22 GMT

>consoles.  You can also add entries for serial lines.  My inittab
>looks kind of like this: (truncated to save bandwidth...)
># inittab for linux, poeigl 1.2
># Format:
># ttyline:termcap-entry:getty-command
>tty1:con80x25:/bin/agetty 9600 tty1
>tty2:con80x25:/bin/agetty 9600 tty2
>[...]
>#ttys1:vt100:/bin/agetty -m -t60 9600 ttys1
>Hope this helps you get some serial logins on your machine 

Actually, it did! I have experienced some problems, such as the
handshaking gets messed up and the modem won't connect. Usually
reinitializing the modem helps. Which brings me to my followup
questions:

1) Is there some way to reinit tty2 w/out rebooting?

2) You have vt100 as your console type (so I'm assuming.) Are there
others?  Would it be possible to support other term types?

Thanx for the info!
-Mike
(siggie on strike :)

Xref: sparky comp.os.linux:12129 comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit:196
From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit
Subject: Market fragmentation (Was Re: Great marketing (Was Re: BYTE asks, )
Date: 30 Sep 1992 14:50:29 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu
Keywords: UNIX

jbotz@mtholyoke.edu (Jurgen Botz) writes:

>of grand.  I dunno, Microsoft is sure to sell a lot of copies of NT,
>but their shooting for being the operating system standard of the future,
>and I think they missed that mark long before they started to fire.  Maybe

I agree.  The market is way too fragmented today to support
anything like the market domination which Microsoft had ~ 1987
when they accounted for 80% of all operating systems sold.
Microsoft will never own that market share again.  Thank god.

Earlier the high volume platforms were

1. PCs, running MS-DOS (were Xenix and desqview around?)
2. Macs


Today we have

1. Intel boxes running
        MS-DOS, DR-DOS, OS/2, PC-Geos, desqview,
        BSD386, Coherent, Destiny, Minix, Nextstep 486, SCO Unix, 
        Solaris 2.0, a few dozen other SVR4s, a few Mach-BSD, 
        Desqview/X, X display servers, 
        386-BSD, Hurd, Linux, Mach-BSD
2. Macs running Garbage, or AP/UX, or Mach-BSD
3. Suns running 4.1.1 or Solaris 2.0 or (soon) BSD
4. Other RISC workstations, all running some sort of Unix

Some of these may seem really niche, but they all diminish Microsoft's
market share as compared with the dark ages.

Even under the perfect (probability 0) scenario, (where WNT ships on
time with all the promised features with lots of device drivers
without serious bugs), it's simply too late for Microsoft to recover
it's 1987 market share, or prevent it's market share from dropping
further.  I love it.

        -ans.
-- 
Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
From: alawrenc@sobeco.com (a.lawrence)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help please: upgrading MCC Interim of some time ago to .97pl4
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:26:51 GMT
Reply-To: alawrenc@sobeco.com
Organization: Lawrence & Assc.

In <Sep.27.17.35.14.1992.27359@athos.rutgers.edu> hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick) writes:

>hlu@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu) writes:

>>Please save any future annoucement about compiler and library even if
>>you don't need it at the time unless you know what you are doing.

>New users won't have a saved copy.  Please put the necessary information
>in some very obvious place on tsx-11.

Perhaps when there is a new release of a major piece of software, or  any
other substantial change  a FAQ of someking should be posted every few days
(perhaps twice a week for a month and then bi-weekly or monthly).  I just
finished downloading all the  files  for the  lib-4.1 release.  Its close
to 6 Meg and the only instructions I've found so far is a 5K FAQ and a
1K README.  (Note I haven't exploded the tars yet).  As I do the install
I will keep notes on what the instructions said, what I did, and why
any differences, any problems etc.

Later this week, when the install is finished I will post the notes, and
if I get positive feedback, I will post them regularly thereafter until
they are no longer needed.

-- 
If any given program runs correctly, it is obsolete.
=========================================================================
Andrew Lawrence, Informaticien Conseil           |  alawrenc@sobeco.com
3605 St-Urbain, #1605                            |  uunet!sobeco!alawrenc
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cmenser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Charles Menser)
Subject: Keys held at boot time killed keyboard.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 23:44:41 GMT

I have just installed LILO on my machine (mcc .97pl2 upgraded to pl6),
and was testing LILO. At one point I had SHIFT-TAB (before I RTFM)
depressed during the POST and through the LILO load, I was not prompted 
for a boot choice byt LILO (perhaps I only had TAB depressed), but
once linux loaded I could get no response from the keyboard, even C-A-D
would not register.

Any ideas why? Should/could this be changed?

Thanks,
Charles
--
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Charles D. Menser               !  "... and even if you choose not to decide,
cmenser@vyonous.kennesaw.edu    !           you still have made a choice."
From: kg@gnusys.GUN.de (Klaus Guhr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: tin1.1pl4 goes BOOM on 097pl4
Date: 13 Sep 92 13:08:13 GMT
Organization: GNUSYS // Private LINUX Site
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Vincent D. Skahan (vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com) wrote:
: have any of the 'news' folks out there experienced
: problems with the 'tin' newsreader blowing up with
: a SIGSEV fault after switching to 097pl2 or above ?

i've sucessfully compiled tin-version 1.15 and it works fine with linux
0.97.2. The binarie is compiled with gcc 2.2.2d. No problems. 

: 
: Just to be sure, I recompiled it with 2.2.2d 
: (all from mcc-interim 097p2) and same thing happened.
: 
: The same binary worked fine at 095c+ through all of
: 096...

Is your kernel OK? Sometimes ago i had  the same probs. Using a new
compiled kernel solved all this ...

-- 
Snail: Klaus Guhr, Marktstrasse 33, 5300 Bonn 3, Germany
Phone: ++49 +228 48 53 60       Data: ++49 +228 43 24 33
E-Mail: kg@gnusys.GUN.de
From: gwoho@ucrmath.ucr.edu (gwoho liu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: maybe problem with ext
Date: 27 Sep 92 05:42:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

has any one noticed this--if one creates a really large number of
files, say 1000 or so, in one directory on the ext file system,
then remove a bunch of them, apparently the kernel can not
skip over a bunch of erased files to find some of the files after
the erased ones. efsck tells of no problems. after doing this to
my file system, i can only access the files if i do something like
for a in a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z;do
for b in a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z;do
for c in a b c d e f g h i j k l m n o p q r s t u v w x y z;do
>.$a$b$c;done;done;done
this apparantly fills up the holes, then i can access the files again.
i can't access the files at all--can't even stat them. but readdir
can read the dir entry.

also i noticed quite a while ago that sleep was busted because
the sigalarm signal was by default a one-time thing.
probably this has been fixed by now. it caused F in less not to work so well.

gwoho
From: varney@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bruce Varney)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Gateway2000 486-66DX2 V
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:41:40 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


	Has anyone out there tried running linux on one of Gateway's
local bus machines? It has a 32-bit local bus IDE controller, and
a 32-bit local bus ATI Ultra Pro video card. I am looking into getting
this machine, and am wondering if there are drivers out there for the
above mentioned parts.
			Thanx
				Bruce
From: ts3v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Thomas Martin Staniszewski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ST-11R controller + Linux
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:24:44 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Is there anyone out there who has successfully gotten the Seagate ST-11R
RLL controller to work under Linux?  It seems that Linux (and 386bsd)
don't detect that the system has a hard disk.  Any help will be greatly
appreciated.

-Tom
ts3v+@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bjork@telebit.com (Steven Bjork)
Subject: RFC 1340 on ttl, was Re: Problems with KA9Q and SLIP
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:12:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.132516@tiger1.prime.com> cummings@tiger1.prime.com (Kevin J. Cummings) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.040016.20759@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, prv2d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Peter Villadsen) writes:
>>    It seems that I cannot ping machines that are rather far away.

>Try increasing your TTL (Time To Live) values (via TCP TTL xxx 
>where xxx is the value you want to assign.  It defaults to either 8 or 16.
>I think that 32 or 64 is a better value if you want to communicate over large

The current Assigned Numbers RFC (1340) recommends a
default time-to-live (TTL) of 64. See page 32.

It's a tradeoff between having your packets able to reach
obscure corners of the Internet, and not having possible
routing loops be filled with infinite-life (256) packets.

On sunos you need to adb your kernel to change this.

--Steven
From: jjk1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James Joshua Kopper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Who will handle publicity for Linux 1.0?
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:22:03 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Oh no!!!!  Another unGNU person who wants shareware!!! AAAUUUGGH!!!!

In article <BvBpCD.AsJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (X X) writes:
>I think linus should get a little compensation for the hard work he has
>put into this wonderful product.

Linus (at least to my knowledge) has put his time and work in because he has wanted to, and thus has already received "compensation" he feels is worth it.  Certainly there is nothing wrong with sending him money (if I had some, perhaps I'd consider it).  Nonetheless...

>  Maybe make it so if you register it for
>say x dollars you get these additional features.  

Are you advocating crippleware?  READ the GNU COPYLEFT which you
SHOULD HAVE DONE when you got Linux.  READ the GNU MANIFESTO.
UNDERSTAND WHY Linux is free, and why "registering" it would CRIPPLE
its development and do nothing to help the world of computers at
large.

THEN if you have an opinion on things, discuss them.

Sorry for the horrendous EMPHASIS and FLAMING (not too much I hope),
but the "register" idea would undermine all of the work which has been
done.  We'd have another SCO on our hands.  Worse yet, AIX, which
can't even log users in with expedience.  The point is that by Linus
not demanding monetary retribution for his efforts, he has caused
Linux to "take off" and improved by many, many people.  Think of it -
would you have honestly bought a $500 commercial UNIX you couldn't
even get the source code for?


-- 
____________------------===========------------____________
                     from: Josh Kopper
                      jjk1@lehigh.edu
    
  Computer Engineering, EECS Department, Lehigh University

  Student Konsultant -- Lehigh University Computing Center
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae Won)
Subject: ed in linux
Keywords: ed, make depend, linux
Organization: Monash University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 14:30:39 GMT

hi.

     I was trying to do a make depend on this X software and make depend gave
me this
Appending dependencies to Makefile
ed: command not found

Umm, am I missing something here?

some irrelevant information:(or are they? :)

kernel 0.97pl4
X386 v2.0 beta...with all XPROG as well.
gcc 2.2.2d with jump tables

Thanks for any infos.

Jae



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