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From: niklasf@dhhalden.no (NIKLAS FREDN)
Newsgroups: alt.censorship
Subject: what good will come of this
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:12:21 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

I don't know if this has been brought up yet (or if there is reason
to), but as I have understood Clinton's vice president, Gore, is 
married to Tipper Gore!?

It's been a while since I've heard anything from her, but doesn't she
want to ban just about everything she finds offensive? How will the
situation in the US become now when she's got one foot in the 
White House?


See ya'

Niklas Fredn        
                   "RIDE A CHAINSAW...AND REST IN PIECES"
From: cst@bork.nist.gov (Charles S. Tarrio)
Newsgroups: alt.censorship
Subject: Re: A gender neutral pronoun, was Fundamentalist Nightmare
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:05:20 GMT


My system glitched, so I don't have the article I was commenting on;  
sorry.  Someone remarked that changing his speech patterns was his choice  
and nobody else's.  I think that most changes in English have arisen  
because society was comfortable with new words, usages, etc. that were  
popping up.  Changes in language don't generally happen because people are  
told how to talk by other people or groups.  However, in the last several  
years, some terms have come into use that originally were suggested by  
certain groups, such as Ms., African-American, etc.  I'm sure that for  
every one of these terms that has been adopted, many have been rejected  
because the majority of people didn't find them natural.  Also, for each  
of these thought-out words, probably many more words have been adopted the  
old-fashioned way, spontaneously from slang.

BTW, why is everyone looking for a gender-neutral third-person singular?   
English has a perfectly good one:  it.  Sure, it doesn't usually apply to  
a person, but they isn't usually singular, and one isn't usually used in  
spoken English.  It seems as good a solution as any.

"Bob's roommate of indeterminate sex went to the store, but it didn't have  
any shoes."  I guess the antecedents could get kind of confusing. :-)
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: axl@cheshire.oxy.edu (W.AXL ROSE)
Subject: baloobot doc!
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:58:43 GMT

I would just like to thank that person who sent me the
how to make a bot doc....
I think I'm going to make a bot now...
heehe NOT!! that was the more worthless piece of *$&&% of a bot
how to write a bot doc I'd will ever see!!! so those 
of you out there who are using that "piece" at the end
of the doc as a bot or a basis for your bot! DONT!!!!
You are a complete and utter moron if you do! and if you have 
been using it then you are a moron! but morons can be saved
I was! ehehehe I had a riesbot like that..but not as
dumb as that bot! but hey..if you read the help files
the new ones that is! you'll be able to write a more secure
and quieter bot! always take into consideration the 
WARNINGS!!!!! And never just take a file from someone else
and just load it into your script file! Make sure you understand
every command in the file..take your time to read through
it and analyse what each command does..If you have any doubts
ask the person who gave it to you what each thing does and makre
sure they explain it to you thoroughly..of course most of the 
fun is in figuring it out on your own!!! And remember who is GOD!!!
yes we all know him!!! DEMON!!!!!!! *blows demon* :") hjejejeje
MY HERRRROOOOOOOO!!!!!!
If you have any questions email me at the address given below!
--Eli
or Riesgo on IRC


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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo)
Subject: Re: userhost()
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 06:02:54 GMT

From article <BxF3Ey.HsA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, by dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman):
> 
> Troy, since when does userhost() take arguements??  I pre7.myc6+ and I have
> never come across a version that allows arguements.

It's due in 2.2pre9 :)  Oops, that was aborted due to my resignation.
You know who to blame :)

(Actually, there really *was* to be something like that added).
--
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From: yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: testi
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:33:46 GMT
Organization: University of Oulu
X-Newsagent: :: uutimet -- news-agent by yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi ::

testi
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver)
Subject: Re: I want my own bot
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:23:39 GMT

asamonte@volta.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...) writes:

>Why didn't you just use your regular account, Monica?

	Basically because it was down that day...and also
	because I was playing the "virtual student"

	bfn, <for those who didn't read my occasional explaination
	bfn = bye for now>

	<mrgreen...don't you like using <> instead of () ?>

	bfn,
	Monica
-- 
"When you sit with a nice girl for two hours, you think it is only a minute.
But when you sit on a hot stove for a minute, you think it's two hours.
THAT'S RELATIVITY." (Albert Einstein)
                 "My name is Monica. Got a minute?"
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: chiner@edsel (Chris Hiner)
Subject: Re: baloobot doc!
Reply-To: chiner@nova.gmi.edu
Organization: GMI/EMI CIM Lab
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:06:43 GMT

my favorite bot code starts off like this:
/on ^msg "* *" /exec $*
/on ^notice "* *" /sig .signature

--
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Signature file temporarily unavailable
Abort, Retry, Fail?    :-) Probably Needed...
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mudws@sunvis1.vislab.olemiss.edu (David Warren Steel)
Subject: Re: RXIRC client for IBM3090
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:45:36 GMT

In <923402143442@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> DOWRJ@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090 writes:

>Does anyone know about this client for the IBM3090 running VM/CMS i.e. where
>can I get a copy ?

The RXIRC client is available from cs.bu.edu and from nic.funet.fi,
among other places. 

************************************************************************
* DAVID WARREN STEEL                  mudws@sunvis1.vislab.olemiss.edu *
* University of Mississippi, USA                        (601) 232-5183 *
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: asamonte@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Subject: Re: client command line code
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 22:00:35 GMT

"Not a user" huh.?.me@swap.space.inc was telling me...
>Just some loser... writes:
>
>>I have seen some completely clueless people /servering all across the
>>place because they think that different servers have different people
>>to talk to...
>
>Well... they are not clueless... how can they get a clue when there is
>no clue around ?
>How about educating those users... most are happy to be taught about 
>how thing works.

I didn't reply in mail...because I felt I should say this to all.

I =DO= tell these people.  And most don't believe me.  NO where in my post
did I say I leave these people to /server all over the place.  I suggest to
them the closest server to them, and tell them breifly why they should
do so.

-ALex
From: herm@coombs.anu.edu.au (Herman H. Fredriksson)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: I want my own bot
Date: 5 Nov 1992 05:06:00 GMT
Organization: Coombs Computing Unit, Australian National University, Canberra.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
Summary: Y() D00dz, check 0ut |\/|y c00l B()T!@#
Keywords: bots, are, lame.

In article <Bx5I77.Mp7@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lis450ak@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (M.K.Weaver ;)) writes:
>       I keep hearing about "baloobot" etc.
>       I have to do a paper for my telecommunications
>       class. I am using the "bot" issue as my basis.
>       Would someone please give me the background
>       information? Basically what do you mean about

A bot is an automated client. The term "bot" appeared much later than
the original automated clients or "automatons". Among the first and probably
the most useful of these were NickServ, and jircc.

Now there are multitues of worthless "automatons" whose sole purpose is to
"keep and give and maintain channel modes", and to be an extention of the
users ego.

>	baloo <I assume it was a bot someone created
>	at sometime> Please make your response as detailed
>	as possible.

I believe that Baloobear is the nick of a guy who had such a "bot" which used 
the nickname "baloobot". He wrote a document which showed people how to 
start a "bot" It explained simple things like /on to beginners. He made 
the fatal mistake of including the script for his own bot at the bottom, 
which the weenies coppied and used in true computer science student 
tradition ;) . The document also promoted VERY BAD automaton behaviours,
one of which was the:     

-- begin included shit from botdoc --
     /on msg commands allow your bot to respond to /msg messages that
people send to it.  The format is similar to /on public :
     /on msg "* help*" /exec -msg $0 cat HelpFile.txt
     ...will, when someone types "/msg BalooBot help", msg back to
-- end included shit from botdoc --

And for this he has payed dearly with his nickname being 
splattered about places such as this whenever a mindless vanity bot is 
discussed.

see if you cant get a copy of the "satanic verses", err. I mean the 
bot.doc :-)

>	thanks for your time,
>	a student

<hmmm.. this posting reminds me of someone else who posts from uiuc..just
cant remember who :)>

herm
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From: ueh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Eric Hausgaard)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Where?
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:28:39 GMT
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology

Netters,
  I'd like to be able to telnet to get onto ircII. 
Does anyone have the site where this is possable?? 
Please E-Mail me the site and the Password to do this..
Eric Hausgaard

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Xref: sparky alt.irc:4035 alt.irc.ircii:154
From: mattm@access.digex.com (Matt Mosley)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Keywords: bots, are, lame.
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:13:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.212604.25539@ra.oc.com> herm@merlin.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson) writes:
>
>So glurg is your channel reserver, which makes sure YOU have op on YOUR
>channel now does it? Hey, why not just leave YOURSELF on that channel
>with no /ons but with yourself left as chanop? Wont that be as prestigious?

Right.  Why can't any of these people that seem to need automated clients
to keep channel operator just USE SCREEN or one of a number of other 
methods and keep themselves on there with chanop, and just resume the
session?

For that matter, WHY DO YOU NEED TO KEEP CHANOP ALL THE TIME?

Matt.
(say NO to automated vanity clients)

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 08:41:34 GMT

> I still feel alt.irc.bot would be useful (...)

I could not agree more. All the time, I get MSGs from people wondering,
how do you make a bot? Can I have the source of your BOT (Glurg, btw).
Really irritating when you go to IRC to communicate rather than go'n
teach others to write bots.

Also, programming techniques could be shared, so that all bots would be
optimized accordingly, and we could have fewer bots because bot programmers
could agree to have only ONE bot with that and that function, and so on,
if you get my drift...

/Gard
       (gardabr@unix1.mrih.no)
From: herm@merlin.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Summary: Yo WeenieBot, Give me a OP d00d?!
Keywords: bots, are, lame.
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:32:11 GMT
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, Texas

In article <1992Nov6.084134.17493@ugle.unit.no> gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>> I still feel alt.irc.bot would be useful (...)

NOT.

> [..people message this dude becos they want to have a whizbang bot too..]

> Also, programming techniques could be shared, so that all bots would be

Lame, weenie bots which give people a op (oh w0w) can be share/copied.

>optimized accordingly, and we could have fewer bots because bot programmers

Oh my god, the word bot, and optimized in the same sentence.

>could agree to have only ONE bot with that and that function, and so on,

There is no agreement. That is why we have bot wars. 

>if you get my drift...

>       (gardabr@unix1.mrih.no)

herm
(say NO to unattended bots)
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: troy@plod.cbme.unzw.oz.au (Troy Rollo)
Subject: Re: Titus Chui should just shut up
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:31:38 GMT

From article <mrgreen.720699062@munagin>, by mrgreen@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green):
> mark@coombs.anu.edu.au (Mark) writes:
>>Can you do timed events in IRC II script? (Apart from /on timer).
>>i.e. set up a queue of events that activate when a timer reaches 0.
> 
> from my experience no, but I await Daemon to write the script for it

Well, in 2.2pre8 (still unreleased because I resigned part way through...
flames to danielce@ee.mu.oz.au) there's a "TIMER" command which has
the syntax:

	TIMER <seconds> <command>

And executes the command after the given number of seconds.

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: macintosh irc client needed
From: Sam Hui <sh50+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 15:02:07 -0500 
Distribution: na
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>P.S.  I heard that the programmer is also really lazy and needs more 
>      encouragement to finish the bug fixes and other features.  So, if
>      ya get it, use it, and like it, email him and tell him to get
>      off his lazy butt so we'll see v1.0 soon!
 
On 06-Nov-92 in Re: macintosh irc client ne..
user Patrick Parker@epx.cis.u writes:
>>P.S.  I heard that the programmer is also really lazy and needs more 
>>      encouragement to finish the bug fixes and other features.  So, if
>>      ya get it, use it, and like it, email him and tell him to get
>>      off his lazy butt so we'll see v1.0 soon!
> 
>Yeah.. I talked to the programmer too Chris, he does seem to be lazy. 
>Everytime I try to tell him something about adding some new option or button,
>he usually ignores me.  From what some of his friends tell me, he spends most
>of his time sleeping and the rest of the time spending quality time with his
>dog.  Sounds to me like some sort of chemical imbalance, but who cares, it's a
>hell of a IRC client program for the Mac.

I heard he's an alchoholic Streetfighter II nerd...I think he spends
most of his time playing with video games, drinking and sleeping.
 Well I just hope we get to see 1.0 before the turn of the century..

 Having said all of that, HOMER is an amazingly good client and one that
I would highly recommend.

-Sam

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:28:31 GMT

Tim Miller (tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil) wrote:
: On 10 Nov 92 13:16:51 GMT, gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) said:
: 
:  G> I have tried noteserv... just that I have never actually managed to
:  G> make him work. And if he won't work for me, well, then I guess I
:  G> can't use him.  
: 
: 	It works for me; what's your problem?  RTFM, or in this case,
: RTFH. 
: 
: -- Cerebus <tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
: "Read The Fricking Help, in case you're confused."

He never responds to my help request. It wouldn't be surprised if it was
some lag between me and noteserv every time I log in to IRC.

/Gard

Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: axl@cheetah.math.oxy.edu. (Elias Rodriguez)
Subject: baloo.doc..how to create a bot!
Keywords: its must suck!
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA.  USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:57:34 GMT


Does anybody still have the original how to make a baloo bot style
ehhehe bot available...if you do could you e-mail it to me.
I'd like to see what the big fuss is all about...

--Eli
Riesgo on IRC

P.S. dont worry..my bot is probably and surely more advanced than
any baloobot slapped together with one's .ircrc file....just
curious as what to this moronic fool told the kiddies...so I can
laugh my ass off too!!!!!!
HA! thanks again!
From: a99524@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de (Dirk Stichling)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Where to get a driver for IBM3090 ???
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:52:58 GMT
Organization: Uni Paderborn FB 17 Informatik GERMANY
NNTP-Posting-Host: pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de

Who can help me and my friend ? I am searching an IRC-Driver for an
IBM3090. 
Please contact to:
Internet: a99524@pbhrzx.uni-paderborn.de (Dirk Stichling)

Thanx.
From: titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Calling upon the creators.
Date: 14 Nov 1992 03:02:05 GMT
Organization: Coombs Computing Unit, Australian National University, Canberra.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user on Coombs at ANU. The
              opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily
              those of the Australian National University.

gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:

>It surely is an irritating debate, and it seems we will never agree upon the
>subject of bots this way. May I suggest the ones who started IRC say something
>clever about the matter, and then, perhaps, everybody eventually will be happy.

the creators of irc intended it as a chatting medium, not as a toy for people
so they can have automated scripts to (quote) 'give an atmosphere to the
channel'

titus
(say NO to unattended bots)

ps: i havent said this before, i have nothing against ircII, in fact i think
it is a great client, its a pity weenies have learnt to abuse it.


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  dont drink and drive home                  ---- titus@turing.ORG ---------
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Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: frechett@spot.Colorado.EDU (-=Runaway Daemon=-)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Keywords: bots, are, lame.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:01:15 GMT

In article <BxH577.B2M@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.212604.25539@ra.oc.com> herm@merlin.etsu.edu (Herman H. Fredriksson) writes:
>>/on public "* *re*" say say hi, Glurg;say say hi, Glurg
>What does this prove?  It's a "piece of shit" because it can be placed in an
>infinite loop by any malicious person?  That can be done with almost any
>program... I once had a shell reading from and writing to the same file,

This is not true.  Any GOOD bot can easily detect when it is the victim of
malicious intent.  The point which herm didn't point out probably because
he figured you'd be bright enough to figure it out yourself is that if some
other smuck has a bot with similiar functions also left unattended and your
bot wanders in, (you did say it wandered), then it's conceivable that the
two bots will get stuck in a loop.  In fact, this happens all the time on
#botsex and #bottub where the endless   on kick rejoin kick etcetc..
bullshit goes on.

There are just too many people out there that don't have a clue as to what
they are doing when they run a bot.  And MOST of them never even bother
to figure out what everything in their bot does.  I could probably
write up some spiffy bot code, give it to any number of random ijuts
and be able to do with them or their accounts as I please.  They wouldn't
even know what hit em.  What's really scary is they would give it to 
someone else without realizing how dangerous it was.

About now you should be jumping in about how we need alt.irc.bots, (another
newgroup that 50% of the sites will ignore), so that people can learn how
to write good bots.  Well, I say, that's just bullshit.  It would become
a forum for posting your favorite bot code, and very little real understanding
going on.  If you want to learn how to write a bot then learn how the
client works first.  I think I can probably count the number of people
that have read all the ircII help files on my fingers.  I know count count the
number of people who would be willing to write a bot in perl instead of
ircII script, on my toes.  And god forbid someone might write a bot in C
instead.  Hell, they might actually learn something.

There's been a lot of "it could be this way, or it might be that way" but
all I see day in and day out is how it IS, and how it WILL be.. people are 
lazy, and I'd rather not see another 500 unatteded flooding bots by lazy 
owners with big egos on lame channels. 

Ooooo.. if you're feeling really manly, you can whip out those flames and
show us what you got.

	ian   (Coming down from 2 weeks of 5-3 B+Trees.)
From: dgong@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Daniel Gong)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Telnet sites for irc
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:50:55 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly State Univ,CSC Dept,San Luis Obispo,CA 93407

Does anyone know of any telnet sites which would allow me
to login and use irc? Help would be appreciated.


-- 
dgong@polyslo.calpoly.edu

sig?? I don't need no stinkin' .sig!
Newsgroups: alt.irc