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From: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen)
Subject: Re: New Chinese in Mountain View
Organization: Sequoia Peripherals, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 00:57:14 GMT

Curtis Jackson said:
>Ken Powell said:
>>I've just had two good experiences with a new restaurant [Chef Lee's] so 
>>it's time to tell the world.
>
>And I had one good and one horrid, so I'll tell the world, too:

Add a mediocre to the list.

I tried them for lunch today on the strength of Ken's recommendation
and I don't plan to go back. The hot and sour soup wasn't hot (temperature)
enough and the flavor was nothing special. The rice was kind of clumpy
and dried out, almost as if they were serving leftovers. And the
chicken with black bean sauce tasted like their black bean sauce was
really soy sauce with a few beans thrown in. The one good point was
that, as Ken mentioned, all of the vegetables in my meal tasted fresh.
But this was not enough to make the meal anything beyond edible.

DaveBob says don't check it out.



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From: ed@weir.pa.dec.com (Ed Gould)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Ravioli
Date: 19 Dec 92 20:27:03 GMT
Reply-To: ed@pa.dec.com
Organization: DEC Network Systems Lab, Palo Alto
NNTP-Posting-Host: weir.pa.dec.com

> I really like cheese ravioli.  Can anyone recommend a really great
> cheese ravioli in the Bay Area?

The Genova Deli in Oakland on Telegraph just south of 51st makes great
ravioli.  The meat ones are usually (always?) fresh; the cheese ones
can be had frozen.  They sometimes make cheese ravioli with spinach pasta.

--
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+1 415 688 1309	  Network Systems Lab	181 Lytton Ave, Palo Alto, CA  94301

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From: leej@diver.asd.sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Vietnamese sandwiches in N. Sunnyvale/Master Sandwich
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:52:21 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: diver.asd.sgi.com

Just tried Master Sandwich on the northeast corner of Wolfe and Reed.
It's a tiny little place with half a dozen tables, but they do they
reference standard $1.50 Vietnamese sandwich.  Nothing special, but they
also have all the exotic Vietnamese canned drinks, most of which I've been
unwilling to try.  

Thanks to the person who suggested Master Sandwich to me.

While we're on the subject, the Garden City coffee shop is selling Vietnamese
sandwiches now - $3.00 (absurdly high of course), but the quality is there
and you can get 'em 24 hours a day if you're willing to tolerate the 
100% markup and the smoke.

Regards, Lee
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From: jojo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanne Spetz)
Subject: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:24:28 GMT

> zstern@adobe.com (Zalman Stern) writes:
>On Chef Lee, I basically agree with Dave Eisen. Its an option if you work in  
>Shoreline park. Otherwise, Castro street offers better (if funkier) places  
>to eat.

Okay, okay, I just have to ask.  

Which places on Castro are good?  

We had a notably mediocre meal there once, and since then have eaten either
at China Valley on State St. in Los Altos or Chef Chu's.  But, there are
plenty of times that Chu's is packed or we're shopping on Castro.  Can people
provide reviews of the restaurants that are notable in some way (good or bad)
on Castro Street?  Other than cost, how do they compare to the restaurants
I usually visit?

Joanne


-- 
Joanne Spetz				Department of Economics
jojo@leland.stanford.edu		Stanford University

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From: kenp@kaos.wpd.sgi.com (Ken Powell)
Subject: Re: where can I get good lox?
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 23:54:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.172249.29064@leland.Stanford.EDU>, dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec11.205353.6099@octel.com> susumu@octel.com (Susumu Agari) writes:
|> >
|> >   does anyone know where I can get good lox?  I called around a couple
|> >of places and found the following, but have no idea on the quality:
|> 
|> I've never gotten it there, but Molly Stone's in Palo Alto
|> has lox and other Jewish foods that look awfully good. That's
|> where I'd go if I wanted to buy lox.

I bought some lox pieces from their deli case a few months ago.  It was
only $12 a pound.  The clerk explained that they (the lox, not the clerks)
were ends and pieces, which was why it cost so little...  Bottom line: 
delicious!  And I don't particularly care if my begal is covered by one
piece that I have to fold anyway or a few small pieces.  Tastes the same
(or better)!

/Ken Powell				Phone:  415/390-5086
Enterprise Networking (m/s 9U-510)	FAX:    415/967-8496
Silicon Graphics Computer Systems	EMail:  kenp@wpd.sgi.com
P.O. Box 7311			What I've learned about Unix:  "If you
Mountain View, CA 94039-7311	don't know *all* of it, you don't know unix."
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for Lunch Places in Milbrae/So.SF
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:52:41 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu

viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge) writes:

>Hi,
>I am looking for places to eat at in South San
>Francisco or Milbrae. I'm particulary interested
>in lunch time fare. Price range, not more than
>$6.00 per person.

At least in the past, Brother's Delicatessan in
Burlingame has been good.  They are a Jewish-style
deli, and there aren't many of those in the bay area.
They would not hold a candle to, say, Eddie Saul's
on Ventura boulevard, but for around here they're
fine.

Steve
From: cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Shadowbrook in Capitola...Yuuucccckkk!!!
Keywords: need opinions...
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:08:26 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Taligent, a little subsidiary of two really big companies.

In article <39763@hoptoad.uucp> chroma@hoptoad.UUCP (Steve in the Secret Labs) writes:
>
>I don't reccomend the place unless you are interested in atmosphere
>and drinks only. The food is awful and it's horribly expensive.

That's the kind of careful, thoughtful analysis that I base _my_ buying
decisions on.
--
-- Christophe

"I draw the line at Styrofoam packing kernels, you sick pervert."
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Date: 19 Dec 1992 03:55:54 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
NNTP-Posting-Host: zion.berkeley.edu
Keywords: n

artemis@netcom.com (Michelle Dick) writes:
>>Kirin isn't too bad.
>
>If you don't mind roaches, that is.  I got take-out once and ate in
>once.  Saw roaches both times.  I went back the second time because
>they are open late (til midnight), and the food was OK.

Although I prefer no roaches at all, it is O.K. to eat out
at a restaruant with a roach or so.

But I avoid at all costs getting take-out from a roach restaurant,
then taking it back to my house.  Roaches hide in the folds
of paper bags in which take-out food is packed.  Once in your
house, they slink out and establish residency.  Undesirable.


Steve
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From: bhayes@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Barry Hayes)
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:22:42 GMT

In article <Dec.18.15.01.50.1992.12907@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>My SO and I were lamenting the lack of great Chinese food last night.
> [...]

Try the Peking Duck on El Camino near California Ave in Palo Alto.

And for the hot-head who wanted no MSG, try The Hunan in SF.
From: hartman@informix.com (Robert Hartman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Fresh Choice Quality Degradation
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:59:46 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Dec10.165554.2595@netcom.com> bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan) writes:
>
>On a side note, I just read in the paper that Fresh Choice just went
>public.  Their initial stock offering was at $13 and shot up to $23
>by the end of the day.  Purty amazing.  But I wonder if that means
>that they're going to become an even bigger chain and lose even more
>quality than they have since they started.

I know what you mean.  I hadn't been in a Fresh Choice in about a
year, and I was very disappointed when I went into one last week.
The fresh salad ingredients seemed good, but the dressing I had
tasted watered-down, and the deli salads (potato, pasta, marinated)
weren't nearly as good as they used to be.

But they sure packed in the people just the same.

Oh ... well ...

-r
From: garyk@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Gary Koerzendorfer)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:45:35 GMT
Subject: Jalisco's re-opens in south bay! (Mexican)
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: ba.food

Fans of the old Jalisco's Taco Bar, which closed about a year ago on Stevens
Creek Blvd. in Santa Clara, will be pleased to learn that the same family
has re-opened it in Campbell. It's at 525 E. Campbell Ave, between the 
Pruneyard shopping center and Winchester. Campbell Ave. is the southern
boundary of the Pruneyard.

It's a great Mexican place with plentiful, inexpensive Mexican food.

usual disclaimer,

Gary

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From: marki@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Mark Ikemoto)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 08:06:08 GMT
Subject: plug for Hatcho in Santa Clara
Organization: HP CCSY, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: ba.food

There's a neat little Japanese restaurant in Santa Clara that I want to
put in a plug for.  It's called Hatcho, and it's at 3074 El Camino Real
in a small strip mall between Calabasaz(sp?) and Kiely.  They've been
around for a while.  They have great food, and wonderful-smelling tatami
rooms.

I'd like to put in a plug for them because they are talking about closing
down their lunch service and only serving dinner.  I think that would be
a shame.  If you get the chance, check them out.



Mark ("Not affiliated with the owners.  Just with the food")
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From: zstern@adobe.com (Zalman Stern)
Subject: Re: New Chinese in Mountain View
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:19:30 GMT

On Chef Lee, I basically agree with Dave Eisen. Its an option if you work in  
Shoreline park. Otherwise, Castro street offers better (if funkier) places  
to eat. I wouldn't consider driving from Palo Alto to eat at Chef Lee, much  
less flying in from back east.

On Motomachi vs. Ikenohana, I like Motomachi for their non-sushi Japanese  
food and reasonable prices. Ikenohana has better sushi though (probably the  
best I've had, but I was only there once and that was a year ago).
--
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Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
  "Yeah. Ask 'em if they'll upgrade my shifters too." Bill Watterson
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From: jojo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanne Spetz)
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Keywords: n
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 22:55:16 GMT

Claude Goldsmith writes:
>
>As a further refinement on the search for good food, I'd like to find
>Chinese restaurants that serve good (great?) food without depending on
>MSG. [...]  Going to a restaurant that NEVER uses MSG means I don't
>have to spend time second-guessing the kitchen.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, we usually go to Chef Chu's.  They
never use MSG and we think the food there is quite good.  If you like
really spicy food, though, you might not like their supposedly-hot
dishes.

If you don't know, Chef Chu's is on the southwest corner of San Antonio
and El Cam in Los Altos.  They close at 9:30pm on weeknights.

Joanne



-- 
Joanne Spetz				Department of Economics
jojo@leland.stanford.edu		Stanford University

"Red-haired women buck like goats."  --James Joyce in _Ulysses_
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From: jojo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanne Spetz)
Subject: Calistoga area
Summary: Food, B&B's, etc
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:00:32 GMT

I'm thinking about giving my SO (and myself) a day or two in the Calistoga
area for the holidays (probably to be experienced in early January).  Thus,
I'm looking for suggestions for:

Places to stay (please include approximate prices and details)
Places to eat (casual and formal)
Places to get mudbaths, massages, and the like

Please e-mail, and I'll summarize and post.

Thanks,  
Joanne

-- 
Joanne Spetz				Department of Economics
jojo@leland.stanford.edu		Stanford University

"Red-haired women buck like goats."  --James Joyce in _Ulysses_
From: mmcohen@cats.ucsc.edu (Michael M Cohen)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Date: 18 Dec 1992 03:38:59 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Dec17.232428.28242@leland.Stanford.EDU> jojo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanne Spetz) writes:
>plenty of times that Chu's is packed or we're shopping on Castro.  Can people
>provide reviews of the restaurants that are notable in some way (good or bad)
>on Castro Street?

I like the Chow Fun and Hong Kong style noodles at Dynasty on Castro.
They stay open late 12am sun-thurs, 1am fri-sat
which fits with when I want to eat...

Pointers to other good late night food?
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From: eugene@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Eugene Taskovich)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: which Campbell soups are recalled?
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:53:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA

I do not remember the exact ones, but most of the recalled ones
contained rice in it.  The news I heard, from KTVU (Ch. 2) news last friday
was that Campbell's found some glass in one of their rice shipments.
Try calling up KTVU.  They should be able to give you the exact list 
they stated on the air.
From: spetter@photon.swdc.stratus.com (Scott Spetter)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:22:09 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA


I did lunch at Jing Jing's in Palo Alto, and it was pretty good -
I would return there.  Also in Palo Alto, I was at Peking Duck
(on a Saturday afternoon, when it was empty), and it was very
good.  Beautiful looking food as well, nice atmosphere, good
service, fair prices.  I will return.

I've only been to Chef Chu's once, and I would not return.  It
was crowded, over priced, and we had a particularly bad experience.
Lucky for me, I'm a vegetarian.  Two friends and my visiting
mother ordered spareribs.  Well, they came to the table covered
with sauce, but uncooked.  Both mom and one of my friends took a
bite before, in disbelief, sending them back.  That was a first
for me.  If they are too hurried to check if everything going out
of the kitchen has been cooked, I'll take my business elsewhere.

Scott
From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Poppy seeds?
Date: 13 Dec 92 08:20:23 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Poppy seeds have opium in them... a narcotic anywhere in the US...
From: schiles@valentine.us.oracle.com (Suzanne Chiles)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Strawberry pies
Date: 10 Dec 92 23:47:03 GMT
Reply-To: schiles@us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corporation
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <liai88INN14k@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, ram@shukra.Eng.Sun.COM
(Renu Raman) writes:
|>Dire need of getting good strawberry pies - I know Marie Callendars has them,
|>but they make them with fresh strawberries and thus are not available
|>till Summer. What's the next best place to get it from - any suggestions
|>are welcome (short of telling me to get a recipe and make one)
|>

Baker's Square is running advertisements on TV saying they have
Strawberry Pies right now.

|>renu raman
|>--
|>--------------------------------
|>   Renukanthan Raman				Internet:renu.raman@Eng.Sun.COM
|>   M/S 16-11, 2500 Garcia Avenue,               Tel :415-336-1813
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From: news@sunfse.ese.lmsc.lockheed.com (news)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Keywords: n
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:57:49 GMT
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale

>
>I like the Chow Fun and Hong Kong style noodles at Dynasty on Castro.
>They stay open late 12am sun-thurs, 1am fri-sat
>which fits with when I want to eat...
>
>Pointers to other good late night food?
From: claude@color3.UUCP (Claude Goldsmith)
I love good chow fun.  Anybody else remember the House of Yee (on
Castro) from the early '70s?

As a further refinement on the search for good food, I'd like to find
Chinese restaurants that serve good (great?) food without depending on
MSG.  My experience has been that most restaurants will not add
additional MSG to their food if you so request.  However, they
sometimes forget about (and serve) those items which were prepared
ahead of time and already contain MSG; such as wonton (filling) and
soup stock.  Going to a restaurant that NEVER uses MSG means I don't
have to spend time second-guessing the kitchen.

It has also been my impression that the food served by restaurants
which use (depend upon?) MSG is not all that great without the MSG.
My conclusion is that cooks who don't ever use MSG probably compensate
with other spices.  



Claude Goldsmith, CFII <claude@sunfse.ese.lmsc.lockheed.com>
 twisted-pair (408) 742-7514	      | Opinions expressed are not 
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 through the air - Mooney N6416U      | employer.
From: henry@netcom.com (Henry Polard)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: where can I get good lox?
Date: 13 Dec 92 15:44:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Dec12.172249.29064@leland.Stanford.EDU> dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen) writes:
>
>   does anyone know where I can get good lox?  I called around a couple
>of places and found the following, but have no idea on the quality:

Price Club occasionally has lox for $10.00/lb. IMHO, it's as good
as any, but I'm no lox connoisseur.


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From: sritacco@wet.UUCP (Steve Ritacco)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Good French In ????
Date: 20 Dec 92 06:29:24 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

Hi,

Someone had posted a note here mentioning a new place that opened up in
Burlingame (I think?) and compared it to Le Pot Au Feau (sp?).

Could you re-post, because it expired off the news system I'm using,
and I didn't save it.

Thanks,

Steve
From: path@pase70.Convergent.Com (Pat Herd)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: testing
Keywords: ba.food
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:21:30 GMT
Distribution: ba

just a test
From: margaret@igor.tamri.com (Margaret Kritzer)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Where to get Canolli?
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:44:52 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

I'm looking for canolli, somewhere in San Francisco.  Where
does one find it?  (OK, probably North Beach -- can you narrow
it down a bit?)

Thanks	- salivatingly waiting for replies --


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From: viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Looking for Lunch Places in Milbrae/So.SF
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:45:09 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

Hi,
I am looking for places to eat at in South San
Francisco or Milbrae. I'm particulary interested
in lunch time fare. Price range, not more than
$6.00 per person.

Recently I tried Ristorante Buon Gusto In South
San Francisco, but didn't like it much.
See my review below.

Please let me know of your favorites. I'm interested
in any kind of food. Restaurants can be take out,
sit down, or hole in the walls. As long as the
food is good, I'll be happy!

I will post a summary.

Thanks,
Vivian

viviana@tamri.com


************************************************
I went to the Buon Gusto restaurant for lunch with my Mom.
The alfredo pasta was delicious, the soup (minestrone)
was so-so. The salad dressing tasted like water. My
mother's chicken caccitore (sp?) was quite tasty.
However, the service we received was quite rushed. We felt
like they wanted us to eat and leave.

Prices at lunch time ranged from $8.25 (pasta) to $13.00 (steak).
Hours:11:30-3:00 for lunch.

224 Grand Ave
So. SF
742-9777
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