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From: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Subject: Re: Columbus Day, 1992
Reply-To: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:47:28 GMT


In a previous article, jorgense@plains.NoDak.edu (Lee A. Jorgensen) says:

>In article <39415@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> pvanmeur@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Pim van Meurs) writes:
>)
>)A good thing G*d does not read these newsgroups, otherwise man would
>)she be upset.
>
>hmmm .... God as a swear word.  Then what about Jesus?  Or ... Holy Ghost?
>
>please get your 'facts' straight before you post.  (HINT:  God isn't a woman)
>NOR a swear word.
>

I suggest the following:

A: consult a Rabbi.  It is recomended that the word "God" not be written
as it can be distroyed, and is, in effect, a sign of disrespect. (in the 
jewish faith...)

B: Get a sence of humor.  there is OBVIOUS sarcasm at play.


>-Lee.
>
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>                      PartyPartyParty ...
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>
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:44:08 EDT
From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: GEORGE BUSH, STOP THE RED-BAITING
 <1992Oct8.224325.15558@umbc3.umbc.edu>

In article <1992Oct8.224325.15558@umbc3.umbc.edu>, alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
says:

>        I suppose you could view the character attacks on Clinton as
>indicators of a desparate Bush campaign, which, of course, they are.

Since Gennifer Flowers actually made the claim, I think there might be
a chance that it actually happened.  (Not that I care much, but at least
the whole story wasn't just a figment of someone's imagination.)

------------
Kurt Ludwick
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From: acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: The Limbaugh Poll
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:08:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond

Just a note about this so-called poll Rash Dimbulb conducted:

The Washington Post (Oct. 14) has a memo sent out from Bush-Quayle
headquarters to DC area lawyers that support their re-election
urging them to call the 900 number (with the number printed) and
urging them to encourage everyone they know to call. 

Not to criticize Bush-Quayle for doing this (I'm sure Clinton-Gore
would have done the same had they known in advance), but anyone
who thanks the Dimbulb poll is accurate is deluded. There's no
doubt in my mind that Dimbulb's people notified Bush's HQ
in advance of the poll. There is further no doubt in my mind
that Clinton-Gore had no idea that there was such a poll until
Dimbulb announced it.

I'd post a transcript of the memo, but I gave my copy of the paper
to a hospitalized friend. Sorry.

-- 
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	- Motto of the Hellfire Club, live-action roleplaying GM's
We need not fear those who do evil in the name of evil, but Heaven
protect us from those who do evil in the name of good.
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:10:41 GMT
Subject: Re: Limbaugh Fan
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

In alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, gardwt@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

> I just want to say that I am very happy that there is someone out there that
> sticks up for the Republicans. The damn media is so BIASED!!!!

So is Rush.

The fact is that the media has bias, but it is not just anti-conservative.

Also, there are so many forms of media that saying the media is biased
is sort of missing the point.  Rush is media.  Rush's newsletter is
media.

> Tom Brokaw is so damn unfair it make me SICK!!!!!
> And, that idiot from CBS is still bitter because Bush made him look
> like an idiot! They are all out to bash him....

Yeah yeah.  

> 
> LONG LIVE RUSH LIMBAUGH!!!!!!

Whatever.

doug
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea)
Subject: Re: A Technical Request
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:04:18 GMT

In <1992Oct15.130346.26779@dg-rtp.dg.com> crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun) writes:

>In article <grendel.719012990@camelot> grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea) writes:
>>In <1992Oct13.202315.28684@csc.ti.com> dpage@ra.csc.ti.com (Doug Page) writes:
>>
>>>In article <grendel.719003246@camelot>, grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea) writes:
>>>|> In <1992Oct12.195328.571@dg-rtp.dg.com> crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun) writes:
>>>|> 
>>>|> >In article <1992Oct11.015308.25586@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
>>>|> >>crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun) writes ...
>>>|> >>>In article <BD.92Oct7104850@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>>>|> >stalled under Bush?  Clinton is promising to run it in reverse. Has Bush gotten
>>>|> >us involved in a war?  Clinton wants to get involved in Bosnia-Herzegovina.  
>>>|> 
>>>|> You must not have watched the first debate.  Clinton specifically said he
>>>|> wants to reduce troops in Europe.
>>
>>>What? You mean that you don't recognize Slick Willie sitting high in the
>>>straddle again ?????
>>
>>Misnomer.  Maybe you disagree, but I don't see the ability to change one's
>>mind as a sign of weakness.  I think it shows strength, in fact: an ability
>>to adapt to new information and really think about one's positions.  I
>>don't care what Governor Clinton may have said in the past.  I am concen-
>>trating on what he is saying now, which is that he wants to reduce troops.
>>What Bush is saying now is that he does not.

>I see.  What he says last week doesn't count. It's what he says this week that
>matters.  I suggest, when you go buy a used car, that you take someone with
>you.

You exaggerate in terms of "weeks".  I do believe that someone's most recent
opinion is the one that deserves attention.

From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:52:39 GMT
Subject: Re: Private School Re: Public Education
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh

In alt.fan.rush-limbaugh, eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:

> I was fortunate that the school that I was attending gave me, my
> brother, and my sister scholarships to study at that private school (St.
> Mark's Day School: kindergarten through 8th grade; I was there for 9
> years of my life). Given that chance we excelled to become one of the
> best students in our classes, 

Cool.  Did you merge somehow into a single, collective entity?
You should write a book, this is intriguing.

>and that work ethic carried over
> into our work in public high school and college. It is this work ethic
> that needs to be encouraged in our nation's children. That is why we
> can't measure up yet.

Yes yes.  Perhpas we should all be granted scholarships to St. Marks
with instruction on how to merge with our siblings to form some
sort of super-puritan worker drone.  But I jest...

> 
> priceless. And learning involves more than just books and paper and
> number 2 pencils; it is a discipline and a devotion to excellence and
> truth.

True enough. 

doug
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 19:29:26 GMT
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Subject: Re: Why isn't Rush libertarian?
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Keywords: 

mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:
>I don't know about Rush, but I'd like to be a Libertarian.  Really I
>would.  They're just so over-the-edge.  Sorry, but we really do need
>roads, and law enforcement, and national defense.

This is my opinion almost exactly.

Maybe there would be a lot of support if we formed the
``semi-Libertarian'' party. ;^)

Geoff

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Rush Limbaugh and the decline of the GOP
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:44:00 GMT

	[My apologies to the people who still think that Bush has a chance]

	As the GOP slides ever furthur into the tank, and James Baker
starts composing his explanations regarding his failure to save George
Bush from himself, a reacurring thought comes to me:

	This election is the juxposition of two major events for
Republicans.  The first is the massive failure in their bid for the
white house. Not only is Bush going to lose, he's not losing in
the wake of a major catastrophy or scandle, but rather on his own
merits. (Call this premature if you like, but unless Clinton is found
screwing a sheep, the writings on the wall, folks)

	The other major event is the rise of Limbaugh, Buchannan and
their ilk within the party. No one can prove that the reason that
people arn't voting republican is because of the choices of Convention
speakers this year, but there does seem to be a correlation between
Republicans who might win and Republicans who have stayed as far away
from the GOP convention, Family Values, and the rest of the far right
rhetoric as they could.

	It seems terribly ironic that Rushs rise would coincide with
the fall of his beloved party, and even more so that his rise could be
factor in the decline. It will take more then one race to show a clear
cause and effect, of course, but it looks entertainingly suspicious.




-- 
                               Alex Crain::UMBC Academic Computing Services
  "[Ronald Reagans] support of George Bush is absolutely not as lukewarm
  and halfhearted as it appears"  -- Ed Meese 1992

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: But who Gets to Sue for Paternity?
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:29:35 GMT

barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry) writes:

] In article <Oct09.195039.99097@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith) writes:
] >If a man gets another man pregnant, I'll be rather surprised.
] 
] 	I predict there'll be two guys even more surprised than you!
] 
] 						Kayembee


the subject line sorta says it all....


ciao
drieux


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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: thyat@sdf.lonestar.org (Tom Hyatt)
Subject: Re: The truth about lies
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:06:43 GMT

In article <schlegel.718396030@cwis> schlegel@cwis.unomaha.edu (Mark Schlegel) writes:
>kellyb@ccsua.ctstateu.edu writes:
>
>>     Because Bill Clinton went to Moscow back in 70 does not make him
>>     a traitor.The interests of the right wingers would have you believe
>>     he was trying to get a job with the KGB.When the want of peace becomes
>>     associated with being a communist then it is clear we have not learned
>>     anything since the conflict in Vietnam.There is no proof Clinton was
>>     involved in anti-American demonstrations and there is no proof that he
>>     dogged the draft so anyone who impLIES otherwise is only giving there
>>     opinion and you know what they say about them.
>
>In my opinion, the way Clinton got into Moscow is just like the way Hanoi
>Jane (Jane Fonda) got into cambodia, she was sympathetic to the communist
>cause and was anti-war (against the US being in the Viet. war, remember how
>the vietcong used her--photos,etc).
>The soviets saw this young Clinton as a "head full of mush" that they could
>utilize for propaganda.  Of course he was lead about, saw the sights, but
>"never remembered meeting with the KGB", and finally was part of the 
>famous `peace train'
>
>Mark


This is a bit of farfetched speculation.  If Bill Clinton was a "head full of
mush" to be used for propaganda purposes, wouldn't there be some sort of media
record of this from '69 or '70?  By your own admission, there would be photos,
newspaper articles/press releases, etc. with his name emblazoned across it.
I know that I haven't seen anything like that.  There would be a obvious public
record of these propaganda-driven transgressions, if they did happen. I'm
starting to come down on the side of Clinton on this one.  This one has a really
significant chance of backfiring on Dornan and the people who believe him
without question.......

Tom h.

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thyat@sdf.lonestar.org
From: kkrueger@cwis.unomaha.edu (Kurt Krueger)
Subject: Re: Summary Wed 10/14/92
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:50:24 GMT

aa680@cleveland.Freenet.Edu  writes:
> 
>      Today, Rush and his listeners, a bunch of brain-dead sad sacks who
> haven't read fifteen books in their lifetimes, will piss and moan about
> Bill Clinton, the man who, in less than three weeks, will be elected
> President of the United States.

Talk about moaning!  What's the point in even writing this message?  Where
is the substance of your argument?  This is merely an example of the dour
anger in Clinton supporters.  You haven't a clue as to why you're supporting
the guy, so you use a worldwide forum to display it.  Come on, if you have
real reasons as to why you like the guy and why he will be the savior of
the country, then come out and say it.  But don't say we're the brain-dead
ones who moan.  At least we think America is in pretty good shape and isn't
crumbling down around us because of 12 years of neglecting the infrastruc-
ture (and I have yet to find a Clinton supporter who can tell me really
what the infrastructure is and why it's killing the nation).  As far as
Clinton being elected in three weeks, that may be so.  I personally think
that most of the voters deserve Clinton (but America itself doesn't).  This
is a public that is sick and tired of government, but it's ready to elect
a candidate who pledges to expand government.  Any way you argue it, that
doesn't make sense.


Kurt R. Krueger
University of Nebraska at Omaha
kkrueger@unomaha.edu
From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: CROSSPOSTING!!!
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:12:44 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems


I guess you could call this a recruiting drive.  Since this is only being
posted to a.f.r-l I think that those most guilty are not going to read this
anyway.  I have been sending out literally hundreds of replies to those who
choose to crosspost off-topic posts to these groups.  I urge everyone with
the time and means to do the same.  I've sent out the following form-letter:

Form-letter:

Can you please refrain from cross-posting articles like this to 
alt.fan.rush-limbaugh and alt.rush-limbaugh?  These two groups
are now getting so many off-topic postings that his fans and
anti-fans have ceased participating.

If you feel you must post it to a r-l group could you only post it
to alt.rush-limbaugh and refrain from posting it to alt.fan.r-l?

Firstrun articles are fine but Re: replies don't add much to these
groups if they are off-topic.

Thank you.  Comments and flames to msako@lsil.com



and it seems to be working.  Most of the guilty do not even realize what
they are doing because they have newsreaders which just copy newsgroup:
lines verbatum.  I've also found that those hostile folks who reply to
this formletter with a flame turn out to be quite reasonable and kind
when I reply with a polite, personal response explaining the objective.

I urge everyone who can to do this to clean out these two newsgroups.
Please feel free to copy, modify or rewrite my form-letter and send
it out to those (with the original offending text included) who are
doing this.  REMEMBER:  Be polite, civilized, and humble.  You'll be
surprised how many people will cooperate this way.

Thanks.
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From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.elections,talk.abortion,junk,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:42:32 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <1apcubINNhl7@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>
> ... People know that pregnancy is a possible outcome of sex, and ideally
> will accept the consequences - mother and father both....  of course I am
> male and don't have to worry about it as much, do I?

And then men wonder why women dismiss their arguments against abortion ...


Carrie		ceb@rechenau.unify.com	x6244		---------------------+
| "I'm new to C and need to know how to get random numbers returned."  "Just |
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Re: Rush is bad for our country
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
	<1992Oct05.185808.22619@anomaly.sbs.risc.net>
	<1992Oct6.131337.27752@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:14:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.131337.27752@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> jbuckner@lonestar.utsa.edu (James A. Buckner) writes:

   You want real change? HUH?

   Vote for George Bush.

   Not only that, vote the Liberal Democrats OUT!
    Tell Tom Foley to go suck
   on a gas pipe.

   Tell Albert Bustamante to eat some toxic waste!!!!

   And tell 'ol Al Gore to go blow himself!!

   These are my own opinions. 

You are hereby certified for rank of MegaDitto..

L.
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"We will be asking them to join with us. I'm also going to ask them to help us
to change Congress. It's not just enough to change the president if we want to
change America." - Dan Quayle, on courting Ross Perot's supporters. 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex)
Subject: Re: GEORGE BUSH, STOP THE RED-BAITING
Organization: University of Maryland, Baltimore County Campus
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 16:20:15 GMT

In article <BvvyqK.J8y.2@cs.cmu.edu> garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:

>Real GNP fell in 1974, 1975, 1980, and 1982.  Real GNP per
>capita, though, has been falling since 1989.

>I included some numbers in another post.  

	Yup. And for the people in this newsgroup who can't seem to do
basic math, I offer this:

	GNP grew 118.25% from 1975 to 1980, after adjusting for inflation
	GNP grew 113.54% from 1980 to 1985, after adjusting for inflation
	GNP grew 114.84% from 1985 to 1990, after adjusting for inflation

	There were 13M+ new jobs created during Carters term
	There were 7M+ new jobs created during Reagan I
	There were 13M+ new jobs created during Reagan II
	There were 0.4M jobs destroyed during Bushs term.

	The Deficit went to 42B during the 70s
	The Deficit went to $350B during the 80's

	The Debt went to 700B during the 70s
	the Debt went to 4000B during the 80s

	Unemployment had a high of 6.8% under Carter
	Unemployment had a high of 9.5% under Reagan I
	Unemployment had a high of ~5% under Reagan II
	Unemployment had a high of 7.8% under Bush

Tell me again how great things are now, compared to under Jimmy Carter? The
more people bring up the Carter era, the more I think that it's been largely
maligned by Reagan revisionists who look to blame all of Reagans problems
on Carter while taking credit for anything good. Like Reagan, Carter inhereted
a recessionary economy (the 75 recession) and Carters term doesn't look
too bad compared to Reagans first term. Reagan gave us a several great years,
which, thanks to his lack of spending controls, we will be paying for long
into the future - at least Carter didn't leave us with a national disaster.


-- 
                               Alex Crain::UMBC Academic Computing Services
  "[Ronald Reagans] support of George Bush is absolutely not as lukewarm
  and halfhearted as it appears"  -- Ed Meese 1992

Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Need some help...
Date: 13 Oct 1992 14:31:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: be726@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph A. Ellis Jr.)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I'm trying to find out the name of the auditor RL says backs up his claims of
accuracy. Can anyone out there help?

Thanks!

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From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush Limbaugh on Madonna (was Re: Summary Mon 10/5/92)
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:24:07 GMT
Distribution: world,usa,alt,na
Organization: LLNL

In article <92281.203700KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu (Kurt Ludwick) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.022235.15230@s1.gov>, lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich) says:

@         "Ridicule traditional values" -- What are "traditional
@ values", and how does she do the ridiculing? I think that we have some
@ awfully thin skins here...

>I think 'sex with religious symbols' is a good start.

	Like what? I don't think I've ever seen Madonna go so far as
to masturbate with a cross, if that is what you have in mind.

	Besides, what is so horrible about mixing sex and religion?

@         "Blatantly promiscuous lifestyle" -- like what??? Do you have
@ direct knowledge of who Madonna goes to bed with??? Not even the
@ National Enquirer...

>...can keep up with her... :-)  (sorry, it fit so well)
>I'm sorry, is anyone offended by Madonna jokes?  If so, I'll have to stop.

	I'm not bothered by Madonna jokes, as long as they are not bad
ones :-)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh