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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: brushes
Date: 6 Sep 1992 04:48:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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In a previous article, N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (Gilbert Smith) says:
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>> Dan, Dan, Dan - have you been taking lessons from Giggles?  Or was it from
>> your wife?:-)  Daughter?  If one of the above [need I say which] caught you
>> talking like that to me, you'd find out what a close shave is *really* like.
>> [ever been near-missed by a cast iron skillet?]
>>
>I just have one question:  How did I ever get this reputation?  What
>did I do?  What did I do?  Sweet thing that I am.

You were seen talking to Natalie, that's what.  And to me, and Rita [or was
that Natalie again?:) ] [btw - just how long did it take you to figure out 
who was really who?  I wasn't around for the post-clam dissection.]
It's more what you <don't> say than what you <do>.  And driving a <studmobile>
doesn't help/harm your reputation at all....

-- 
It's Ruth the NetHead, back from the [virtual] dead
	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
fighting for truth, justice and static-free lines
From: PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Judith E. Schrier)
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Date: 6 Sep 92 14:15:59 GMT
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>>That's only half the controversy.
>>
>>People with "alternate lifestyles" are saying that they
>>are being slandered as being "like animals"...
>
>But that's not slander, it's a compliment!
These things are not straightforward. Not at all.
Witness the brouhaha of this winter...Some quotes from
material I have on file:

>On 11 Feb, Frederick Goodwin (ADAMHA) made some remarks about possible
>links between the behavior of male monkeys and men in inner city gangs.
>He was roundly condemned, and the comments were called 'racist.'  You
>probably read about it.
>
>Talk about your double-bind: if the stuff is not relevant to human
>problems, one gets a golden fleece award.  If it is and someone
>USES it, it's condemned [basically because of implicit denial of
>our 'animal' connection??].

Likewise the results of research into animal sexuality.
Some (closely related to humans)
animal species are bisexual in their behavior...
others are strictly heterosexual. What, if anything,
does this mean about the "naturalness" of bisexuality
and heterosexuality in humans? What, if anything, does
it mean that we haven't found any other animal species
(besides humans)
that show homosexuality (differentiated from bisexuality)
in their behavior?

judith, no answers, just more questions :-/
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:43:26 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Kulchur, NY

>>No. I will never describe a mugging in this stupid fashion. I was talking
>>of welcoming.
>
>So what did the denizens of the Wormy Apple do to you?

First, I disown a phrase like "denizens of the wormy apple". What they
did to me was WELCOME me. Jeez, didn't I say that? "Welcome", they said.
They asked me how I was finding it. They told me that going up the Empire
State was a thing to do. They were surprised I didn't know where ... um
say Baxter Street was. They asked me solicitously when I was returning to
the cultural wasteland of non-NYC. Et cetera.

Is this so uncommon that it happened only to me?

tushar
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:46:03 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
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>I like it!  Can I put it in ftp space?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

No.

Oh gods...

tushar
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 22:20:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
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Guy was having trouble because he couldn't talk without
stutteri.....
.
No, you've heard that one.
--ggs
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:10:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sensemilla
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> >Yes, you are far behind, //anne//, but you are forgiven.  But BRAD
> >is not forgiven for spelling it wrong ....  it is SINSEMILLA and it
> >literally means:  Seedless (that's Spanish, y'all).....  And it
> >probably is not Jamaican, since I think they do not often speak
> >Spanish in Jamaica....   but don't ask *me* where it comes from,
> >I'm only here to correct mistakes.  That is what I *do*.
> >--ggs
>
> Hate to tellya, Giggles, but Sensemille is also correct--in
> English, anyway.  I got the proof.  Ask Carol.
>
> -Mka

Hate even *more* to tellya, -Mka, but Sensemille smells like a poor
French translation of sinsemilla.  So it aint English, not matter
*what* the proof....  Just ask Carol.
--ggs (suffering because it is so lonely to be right all the time)
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Gleanings (59)

>He had the gall to note the places where I used "which" instead of
>"that" and stuff like that.  When I published the book, I was only

I've been wondering when we might get a good discussion of this
important issue here--the matter of "which" and "that," that is.
It has been one of the joys of my career to have been chastised by
the former editor of the Far Eastern Economic Review for the
"ideological" manner in which I repeatedly changed his whiches to
thats in a short piece we published here.  Are there no other
defenders of the distinction between these two?

Michael E. Macmillan
(macmillm@ewc)
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Original-From: mhwpa!ktw (Kenneth T Wolman +1 201 564 2866)
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:50:00 EDT
From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: Howdy from the green place
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Yea!  He's back!  Laissez les bons temps roulez!

>Hi everyone.  Missed me?  You think I had a low regard for socialism and its
>silly variants before?  Two weeks in a country where they think 6 months to
>get a phone hooked is acceptable and I'm beginning to think the libertarians
>are too statist.

Come now, you sound like you're blaming all the problems of the
administration on Congress....:-) Seriously...is the phone system in
Ireland government-run that it screws up so badly?  If it's
private!...

>I'm still figuring out how to get filespace.  Then I return
>to liven things up.  I was going to say te****ize you, but they get very
>nervous about that sort of thing over here.
Gee, I wonder why that word would give the Irish a wee start....

The Guiness postcard was great, by the way!

Ken
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:27:51 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WHTMIHC
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>> Did I mention that I took my daughter, Marya, to
>> the bank the day before I left for France last
>> month, and introduced her to an officer there as
>> "my daughter, Judith"?
>
>This somehow reminds me of the essay that's in lots of freshman anthologies.
>"Back to the Lake"?  Something like that.  By E.B. White, I think.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
I don't believe I've read that one. I *did* take
freshman comp, and we had one of those books of
essays, but it didn't have "Back to the Lake".

Do I hafta read it? Will it be on the final?

judith
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Majority and "norm"

>Like if "majority" is "norm" then it is necessarily "norm" and if
>it isn't then it isn't necessarily, huh?
>
>tushar

Yeah--but then there's the problem of becoming--which I think is
what Natalie was really interested in.  But who am I to interpret
for List Goddess?

-Mka
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      re: Visiting LA and Chicago
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>WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM (WERTSJ) writes:
>> I'm trying to get caught up on the weekend mail (I was in Los Angeles
>> for a wedding - and it was wonderful - the wedding, not Los
>> Angeles!).
>
>Hmpf.  You didn't stop by to visit.  My fish were so disappointed.

>--karsten

Oooooops!  Damn, I hate disappointing fish!  Some of my friends
will be disappointed, too, when they hear I was there, and didn't
see them (not that your fish aren't my friends...heavens,
disappointment, then insults, I'm batting 1.000).

I was staying in West L.A. (near Palms and Sawtelle), and spent most
of my time in that area, although I spent Monday in Glendale.  Is
either of those near you?  They are probably the areas I'd be in
next time, too, so if you're close, let's "do lunch", or dinner, next
time (maybe even if you're not close, if we can work it out).  It
may not be for another 6 months or so, unless I feel some
uncontrollable urge to go to L.A. (possible, tho not probable).

Friends?

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Why I Teach
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 ..... Also, you have noticed the key word
> "required."  Once upon a time I taught an elective subject and it was as
> different as chocolate ice cream is from liver pate.
> Doris

Teachers of elective courses have their own set of problems. If the
students truly "elected" the courses because they wanted to learn about
the subject, the elctive teacher's path would indeed be a smooth one.
However, all too frequently the student is placed in an elective course
willy nilly by a counselor who doesn't even read the course
requirements (placing students who have failed three consecutive semesters
of English in a journalism course), or doesn't think the placement
matters because, after all, this is *only* an elective course.

Admittedly, many of the students in elective courses take them because
they are interested in the subject and have a desire to learn; this makes
the situation far better than that in the required class, where a significant
number of the students may be actively hostile because they are *having*
to take English, or math, or whatever.  Even so, the presence of the
misplaced students (frequently comprising as much as one-third of the elective
class) does little to make the teacher's job easier.  And, since many
teachers of electives genuinely care about the subject they teach and
believe it to be important (even if it *is* an elective), they feel just
as strongly about students who are hostile and impossible to motivate.

BTW, Torkel, I love your idea about the terminals...please come and be the
director of technology for our school district so you can implement this!
ndh
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:24:00 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      hi, y'all
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I'm here for a few minutes....and leaving for about 8 days or so.

Will not set lists to nomail and will catchup when I can...probably
not until getting back on the 17th.  Say nice things, because I WILL
be watching...and may even find some net access in Dallas (this week)
or Denver (next week).

Gail will be in Boise this week, but will join me in Denver, where we both
are on a program for Library and Information Technology Assn.  (not as
impressive as it sounds, but will be fun)

hugs all 'round

dan
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:00:03 -0600
From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: WHTMIHC

Questioneth "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

> I don't believe I've read that one. I *did* take
> freshman comp, and we had one of those books of
> essays, but it didn't have "Back to the Lake".

> Do I hafta read it? Will it be on the final?

     Why are you worried about the final, already?  This is barely
early enough to sweat what will be on the mid-terms.

The Ronin
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:06:13 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Aspiration
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On Fri, 4 Sep 1992, Rashmi Murthy wrote:

> > What's a.f.u.?
> alt.folklore.urban (??)

BINGO.

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:04:36 -0400
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@MOTE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: College choice
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Tushar comments on Jill's posting --

>> >  This is one of the reasons I chose to go to a small, liberal arts
>> >  college - the undergraduates are the reason for the existence of the
>> >  school.  The class sizes are great,
>>
>> I thought that great class sizes are considered bad.

I'm not sure if this is more of your wonderful subtle humor or not. But if not,
I think you misunderstand, Tushar.  When I read Jill's comment I understood
not that the classes were large but instead that the classes were small --
which is desirable.  What I cannot explain is why I think this is what she
meant -- I agree it could be ambiguous if you take the sentence literally.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:01:09 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Rhubarb Pie: A Plea for Sanity
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> I think pica is the larger term that includes geophagy.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I meant to add that Carole's question really called for "pica" as the
answer -- something about cravings for unusual foods.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 11:57:13 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (58
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>  >AA is (in the US) Alcoholics Anonymous. In the rest of the world
>  >it's the Automobile Association (which is the American Automobile
>  >Association in the US, or AAA).
>
>  "In the rest of the world?" This is outrageous! "Automobile Association"
>doesn't even mean anything in Swedish. Here "AA" means "anonyma alkoholister".
>
>  And the automobile association is KAK, Kungliga automobilklubben. Or
>perhaps it's "Motormannens helnykterhetsforbund"? Or "Fotgangarmassakrerarnas
>intresseforening"? Hmm...
Heartfelt apologies, Torkel, and all other speakers of
languages which I haven't been thinking about lately.

love, judith
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:29:00 HST
From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Gleanings (59)

>BTW, what is "ideological" about changing "which" to "that"?
>
>Steve Karlson

I didn't pursue the matter with the gentleman (Derek Davies) but
assumed he meant that the consistency with which I made the change
suggested rigid adherence to some ideology that he didn't share.
Maybe he was right.  But what would we call that ideology and what
would be its tenets?

Michael E. Macmillan
(macmillm@ewc)
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:23:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Family Tree
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> > It's arriving in the mail right *after* the Niemann-Marcus cookies.
> > --ggs  (c.o.d....)
>
> Sheeesh!! Now he's generous all of a sudden?  Hmmm.  What *shall* I ask for?
> Hmmmm.....:-)
> Doris

I just left my paper-grading (for Business Spanish... yuk!) to run
by the WalMart for a mustard plaster for that bad knee...  It was
$3.95 plus tax....  A personal check will be accepted.
--ggs
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Hi gang.  I'm not subbed to words yet, because I can't figure out how to get
that much filespace.  Word has apparently gotten out about the postcards I have
been sending out.  If you haven't gotten one, don't take it personally.  It
means only that I don't have your snail mail address.  (Don't worry, Dan.
I have yours.)
                                Bill Sjostrom
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: wordsler birthdays
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> Not that I'm ignernt or anything, but what is a crontab file?

Crontab is a process that will send a file you've created to somebody
as often as you want it sent.  I think I've still got the file I sent
to Bernard's caretaker three or four times a day for several days.

Yep.  Here it is.  It flashed on the recipient's screen.  It may or may
not flash on your screens.  If it doesn't flash, you'll see the codes
instead.

[5m[5m
######  ####### ######  #     #    #    ######  ######
#     # #       #     # ##    #   # #   #     # #     #
#     # #       #     # # #   #  #   #  #     # #     #
######  #####   ######  #  #  # #     # ######  #     #
#     # #       #   #   #   # # ####### #   #   #     #
#     # #       #    #  #    ## #     # #    #  #     #
######  ####### #     # #     # #     # #     # ######
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   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Elwood P. Dowd" <ELWOOD%UCSBVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: re: family
              9 Sep 1992 14:51:37 CDT from <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>

On Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:51:37 CDT <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU> said:
>>As to my claim to be related to someone on the list...
>>My mother has gone off to study lamaism in Tibet in
>>a nunnery there.
>Why didn't you just tell us: you're related to Tushar!
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>-abh
Gentle Anne,
   I thought we were *all* related to Tushar, one way or another.
Peace,
Elwood P. Dowd (List Chaplain)
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: College choice
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>>>parent, she will need financial assistance. She has limited her choices to
>>>Georgetown, Duke, Brown, George Washington, Tulane, Johns Hopkins,
>>>Stanford and University of Virginia. She has considered financial aid,

I don't know much about the schools, but if she ends up at Stanford,
let me know, and I'll be glad to show her around the area a bit (I live
in Mountain View, and work in Palo Alto).


>       Nearly 25 years ago, I applied to two schools on the list; Brown
>       didn't accept me, but Johns Hopkins did.  On visiting JHU, I was struck
>       by the utter disregard for the undergraduate segment of the school --
>       the place seemed like a graduate institution, with undergrads around
>       mainly to permit them to gain some TA experience.  A lot, I hope, has
>       changed in the interim.

  This is one of the reasons I chose to go to a small, liberal arts
  college - the undergraduates are the reason for the existence of the
  school.  The class sizes are great, and the professors teach them,
  not grad students.  It was extremely personal; the dean called me
  when I was trying to decide where to go (to discuss financial aid,
  etc.).  I got several phone calls, as opposed to the larger schools
  I applied to, where the most I got was a form letter.

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
From: ak743@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Doretta Hanschka)
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Date: 15 Sep 1992 04:52:56 GMT
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In a previous article, "Don Moore  974-4078 S/C 574-4078" (813) says:

>Senility
You said it, not me.  You're not old enough for that yet.  Jello-brains,
maybe, and at 3am certainly, but not senility.  Men with teenaged daughters
can't afford to forget things....
>Your choice of two
>Muffy
>Peanut butter & jelly
I'll take the pb&j - my allergies are playing enough games as it is.
>D-WORD
>German-speaking pen-pan
pen-pan?  What is a pen pan and how does it speak anything, never mind German?

>Ruth, of course
You rrrrrrang, sir?

>Don, I forgot the questions
What's the bonus category, Don?
-- 
Nethead, aka the Ruth Hanschka, hath enscribed herein, a message
	ap290 and ak743 , both of the Cleveland Freenet
			Here Be Dragons
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:08:21 EDT
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Zen
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Posted on 11 Sep 1992 at 16:36:06 by mgarber@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
>How about putting the soles of both feet together so that
>the hand is free for clapping? Marilyn

Now that's a joke!:)
Karen
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:47:52 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hopefully
Comments: To: English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu>

On Fri, 11 Sep 1992, Judith O Wagner wrote:

> use of the word "hopefully."  Who better to ask than you folks?

Because it's used incorrectly so often. Now, people often say "hopefully
you will like the explanation." A correct usage of the word would be "she
hopefully opened the letter." It means to do something in the hope of
something else. It does not serve as a substitute for "I hope."

-abh
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