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From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: This "Frat" discussion...
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:44:36 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Nov6.091423.8667@ac.dal.ca>, 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
> In article <1992Nov4.224226.4763@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple) writes:
>> In article <key2kSm00WB4I945s9@andrew.cmu.edu> Erik Warren Selberg <es2q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>>fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:
>> 
>> There are a few people out there who are more open-minded or undecided,
>> including me. 
> 
> 
> 
> Muahahahahahahaha! now THERE's a quote!
> 
> 

"What can you expect from a fratboy like Mikey". I believe that is the exact 
quote you wrote from alt.peeves, isn't it, Ted? I could get the original 
article, if you like.

Not only are you NOT open minded, Ted, you are a bald faced liar as well.
I expect you were simply trying to earn brown-nosing points with the members
of this forum by sounding reasonable, but it won't work. With that one quote,
you prove exactly what a closeminded, smallminded buffon you really are. 

In case you don't quite grasp the implications of what I have just said, I am 
hereby calling you (in front of witnesses) a slimy, weasly, rat bastard liar.


Worm your way out of this one Ted. Boy, you make even LAWYERS look bad!

Love and kisses
Mike
ps don't even try mailing my sysadmin about this one. You dug your own
grave, not ROT in it.
From: tarra@skat.usc.edu (Tom)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: This "Frat" discussion...
Date: 5 Nov 1992 11:37:58 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov5.012017.21922@umr.edu> ckincy@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy) writes:

>Ted is criticizing the system, you putz, not the individual members.

And if you knew anything at all about fraternities you would understand why
this is offensive to individuals.  
>
>Yah, and I bet when a woman friend of yours says "all men are pigs,"
>that you get personally offended.  An strong indication of loserhood.

I guess if I said that all Black people are theives and rapists and drug
users I wouldn't offend any individual black people huh?  Also if I said
that all Democrats are loser scumbags that cheat on their wives and do drugs
I wouldn't be making too rash a generalization nor would I offend any of the
Democrats that don't.

>I hope you're not a GreekLettersOnTheChestMan.  Because, if you
>are, your statement about Ted being "elitist" would remind me of 
>something about a pot and a kettle and a can of black paint. 

Gee I hope you aren't implying that because he is in a fraternity that he is 
an elitist.  No, you couldn't be so stupid as to be that discriminatory.  I'm
just glad you aren't in a position of authority, where you might be able to
use  someone's membership in a fraternity against them.  
>
>cpk
>
>[Ever notice that most politicians are alumni fraternity members?
>Maybe that's what's wrong with this country!]

Wow what an intelligent statement, I guess it is easier to point out problems
than to do anything about them.  


Tom
-- 
"Chicks dig me because I rarely wear underwear"  
					Bill Murray 
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton)
Subject: Re: This "Frat" discussion...
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:00:54 GMT

In <1992Nov6.085841.8665@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:

>> Based on the bibliography that Ted posted, I understand his arguments.  I've

>Am I the only person to have actually researched that bibliography?
>Unless you've actually READ said articles, I don't think that you can say with
>any certainty that the citations are any good.

Sorry, yes.  That's what I meant, based on the articles that are referenced
by Ted's bibliography.

-- 
ben
fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.
Government is sanctioned violence.
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: C14596@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Danielle Solomon)
Subject: Re: False fire alarms: Are they a problem for you?
Organization: Motorola
Date: 11 Nov 1992 14:51:37 CST

I WENT TO ILLINOIS STATE UNIVERSITY AND I LIVED IN A GIRL DORM.  WE HAD
A FIRE ALARM AT 3 AM.  WE STOOD OUTSIDE IN THE COLD WEATHER FOR 1 HOUR
TO FIND OUT IT WAS JUST A BOMB THREAT.  MY DORM HAS A SYSTEM THAT IF THE
ALARM IS PULLED A ALARM GOES OFF AT THE FRONT DESK AND THE RA ON DUTY OR
ANY OTHER PERSON IN CHARGE GOES TO WERE IT IS TO MAKE SURE IT IS REAL
BEFORE THE REAL ALARM IS PULLED FROM THE FRONT DESK.  THIS WAY IF IT IS
FAKE NO ONE WILL EVEN KNOW AND THE FIRE DEPT IS NOT CONTACTED FOR NO
STUPID REASON.
MAYBE YOU CAN SUGGEST THIS.

Newsgroups: soc.college
From: gadosy1@vax2.concordia.ca (ME, WHO ELSE?)
Subject: Re: This "Frat" discussion...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Concordia University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:33:00 GMT

In article <key2kSm00WB4I945s9@andrew.cmu.edu>, Erik Warren Selberg <es2q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...
>Besides, to be quite honest, all of this discussion is fairly
>pointless -- you're never going to convince me that the Greek system
>is bad, and I'm never going to convince you that it's good.

Well said!  Let's get on with the important things like.....(enter new topic
here).


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From: sls2c@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Portlan Community College, Help
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:56:39 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

	Help me find the E-mail of Portland Community College  I need it
very much, please E-mailit to me at above mail. 

		Thank you in advance
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: Paul.Fortman@launchpad.unc.edu (Paul Fortman)
Subject: University of Wisconsin-Madison
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:27:03 GMT

I would like to contact a friend at UW-Madison, but I have no idea what
the address is.  I guess I should send e-mail to the postmaster there
to find out the username of this friend.

Either post or e-mail at fortmapl@udavxb.oca.udayton.edu.

Thanks.

*Paul

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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: ckincy@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Charles Kincy)
Subject: Re: Frats / CMU / APhiO
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:17:35 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <4eyefh_00VB94CLUQF@andrew.cmu.edu> mw4l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Paul Wakefield) writes:
>
>Hmmm...Ok...reality check.   September 1992...APhiO membership has
>dwindled to around 10 members (Healthy ? not quite--if any greek house
>was in the same boat their charter would be yanked most immediately
>(a'la Chi O).  GREEK Philantrophy Council is taking over all but 2 of
>their projects because they can no longer handle them.  No C-book this
>year.  
>
>At the same time, the fraternities seem to be growing.  our house has
>increased it's membership by 10% over this time last year.  As for
>senate, the one group with the highest # of senators is probably ROTC,
>after the discrimination battle prompted them take more of an interest. 
>the number of Greek affiliated senators will also be rising, do to the
>fact that fraternities have not had much of a voice in senate in recent
>years and have suffered accordingly.

Must all Defenders of the Greek Faith who post here pepper us with
_ad populum_ arguments?  The fact that Greek membership is increasing
proves nothing about its legitimacy.  Not only is this thinking 
_ad populum_, but it's circular as well.  

Effective advertising techniques, to be sure, but they have no place
in an objective discussion of the matter.

cpk
[OK, so I'm guilty of an _ad hominem_ every once in a while.  But
I refuse to care.]
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Tipper
From: censtad@dion.gac.edu (Christopher B Enstad)
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:00:35 -0600
Distribution: usa
Keywords: Tipper

In article <1992Nov10.063952.18759@nmt.edu>  writes:
> I need to know Tipper Gore's real first name.  I need to know by
> Wednesday!  I challenge you to answer this query, don't disappoint me!
> 
> -tom
Her real name is Tiponsky
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: bdennen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Dennen)
Subject: False fire alarms: Are they a problem for you?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 18:28:33 GMT



After being woken up in the middle of the night for the third time in the
past five days, a thought occurred. Are fire alarms a problem all over the
place? (false alarms specifically)

What solutions do other schools have for this problem? 

Here at Stony Brook, there appears to be no solution. My dorm is a 24-hour
locked dorm, so key access is supposedly required to enter. We'd assume
that people who pull these alarms do not live in the building. Of course
that assumption may be false. Anyway, the RAs have not caught this person
(persons) and everyone on the hall is pissed.

Any other similar experiences?

Bill

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Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: I'm in a local frat is there any way...
From: censtad@dumaine.gac.edu (Christopher B Enstad)
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:47:02 -0600
Distribution: all

Is there any way that a small college (around 2300) can attract the  
attention of national fraternities and sororities?  It would make Greek  
life so much more interesting.  E-mail me at

censtad@nic.gac.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: Frats (underage drinking)
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date:  9 Nov 92 00:54:19 GMT

lie6@ellis.uchicago.edu (Jonathan Lieberman) writes:

>zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu  (Zach, the Lego Maniac) writes:

>>The drinking age in all *50 STATES* is 21 (I'm almost shure of that)

>It is 18 in Lousiana. (and 2 other states I believe.)

This is incorrect.  It _was_ 18 in Louisiana until a few years ago,
when federal pressure forced the Louisiana legislature to raise it to
21.  However, as I understand it, the legislation in Louisiana is very
weak -- it's illegal for someone between 18 and 21 to drink alchohol,
but it's legal for them to buy it or possess it.  Or something like
that.

As far as the other two states: Idaho was also 18 until just a few
years ago -- it is now 21.  I have no idea what other state you are
thinking of or if it has changed, but I would assume so.

However, the drinking age in Canada is not 21 -- I know British
Columbia is 19 and Quebec might be 18, but I don't know about other
provinces...

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: frats
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:32:57 -0400
Distribution: na
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Oct30.204740.26877@cs.ucla.edu>, jrobbins@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Jason Robbins) writes:
>> Matthew Paul Wakefield <mw4l+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Do away with rush, go co-ed, stop using ritual, ban secrecy, obey
>>alcohol policy.....what are you left with ???  Little more than a social
>>club that anybody can join, where there's not much to do but sit around
>>and discuss politics.
> 
> Sleazy, drunken, sexist, anti-intelectual. Just think of what a spot
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^. 
Intellectual. Two L's. Brought to you by your local sleazy, drunken,
sexist, anti-intilLectual frat boy.


> Good idea. But you forgot: if they lifestyle that they embody is
                     ^^^^^^                                     ^^
Good agreement in verb tence, there.

> incompabable with uiversity life, quit funding them, don't let them
> use the universities good name.
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Now, do you mean "University's", (meaning your own university), or do 
you mean "Universities'" (meaning the university system). Do try to make 
those posts a little more articulate, and be a little more careful with your
apostrophies, hmm?

> The searchers are just finding them. The makers have factories for
> problems. That is what we are talking about under the "frats" subject.


Look pal, if you are going to try to make fraternity people look like
anti-intellectuals you could at the very least try to write with a modicum
of good style. It's just a suggestion. People might listen to what you have 
to say if you do.

Mike
From: mreed1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Matt Reed)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Address for Howard U.
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:48:38 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College

In article <95879@netnews.upenn.edu>, ths@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
(Philmeister) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> Can somebody mail me the e-mail address for Howard University?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> 
> Philmeister
> 
> ths@enia.seas.upenn.edu
> 
Try ns.howard.edu, scs.howard.edu, or scsla.howard.edu.  Usernames seem to
be fml (first, middle, and last initials).

Matt Reed
(mreed1@cc.swarthmore.edu)
From: dci2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID CHARLES IANNETTA)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Cheat sheets
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:54:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <40899@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, dlou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Dennis Lou) writes:
>
>In one of my classes, the professor said he would allow an 8.5"x11"
>cheat sheet on the midterm exam.  He was also saying that in the past
>years, creative students brought 3 and 4 dimensional 8.5x11 cheat sheets.
>Since this was an engineering class dealing with problems in n-space,
>he allowed it and chalked it up to creativity.

Excuse me, sorry to interrupt, but how in the hell do you make a FOUR
dimensional display??


>
>One idea I had for a cheat sheet is to overlay multiple pages on one
>cheat sheet using a different color for each page.  Then at the exam,
>just whip out your color filters (like those goofy 3-D glasses) to
>view each page.
>
>Anyone else have any ideas for a good cheat sheet?
>
>--
>Dennis Lou             || "But Yossarian, what if everyone thought that way?"
>dlou@ucsd.edu          || "Then I'd be crazy to think any other way!"
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>
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: harbirk@ifi.uio.no (Harbir Singh Kohli)
Subject: Re: Univ of South Carolina CS department
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:41:21 GMT
Originator: harbirk@holoa.ifi.uio.no


I meant North Carolina State University, I am sorry.



harbir
From: mastr@husc10.harvard.edu (claudia mastroianni)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: ASL
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:02:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Newsgroups: soc.college,can.general,bc.general
Subject: Re: Is sign language recognized anywhere?
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Harvard University Science Center
Keywords: ASL

In article <BxGGwM.LvK@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 (Denis Beauregard) writes:

>Just to give you some indication about autonomy of ASL.
>Quebec has LSQ (langage des sourds du Quebec).  Perhaps the same
>alphabet, but I think it is different.  No idea if they share the
>same "ideographics" words.  Japanese has a large alphabet of 80
>characters and embeds some chinese ideograms, but I am not sure
>if they are the same.  Similarly, I don't know if ASL and LSQ
>have similar short cuts.  If they don't, then this would explain
>why ASL is considered as a way to speak English and not as a separate
>language.
>
>-- 
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> /   \   The Time Traveler...  I get your news with 10 days delay.
>J   __>  Expect 10 days for feedback.  Operating 10 days-light from Earth.
>\_.-===  Ope'rateur de "Racines du Que'bec" (514) 922-9636 BBS/Genealogie


I'm not sure what the original discussion was, but....*ASL is not English*!
I am hearing, but I am taking an introductory ASL class.  This is one point
our teacher is most emphatic about.  She is the Deaf child of Deaf parents;
for those unfamiliar with the term, Deaf (capital "D") is used to denote
those who are "culturally" deaf, a community which shares, among other things,
the common language of ASL.  My teacher learned ASL as her first language;
English, totally separate, came later; it is difficult for someone with no
hearing to make any sense out of speech or writing.  It is much easier once
one has a basis in some language (ASL), to then learn another.  Otherwise,
how would a deaf child even realize that there were such things as words?

Many ASL signs incorporate the hand-shapes for the initial letters of the
English words they correspond to, but I don't think native ASL signers care
about this one way or another, though it is useful for ASL students!  A sign
is a fairly arbitrary motion, carrying about as much inherent meaning as a
word does (a rose by any other name...).

For historical reasons, French Sign Language and ASL are more similar than
British Sign Language and ASL are.  It is irrelevant how similar the spoken
languages of the same area are.  I was told Canadians used ASL; I don't know
whether LSQ is totally different or a dialect.

I'd be glad to forward any questions to my teacher.

-- Claudia
From: ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole)
Subject: Re: E-mail address of Macalister College in MN.
Organization: Macalester College, St. Paul Minnesota USA
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 16:03:15 GMT

buenoa@pell2l20.alleg.edu (Alicia Bueno) writes:

>How the Hell do I get into Mac's address listing?  If any one knows please  
>let me know.
>

To find someone at Mac (my school -yeah!)
It is like this:
Students: Noah Cole is NCOLE. It is FLLLLLLLL@MACALSTR.EDU. All students have
accounts in this format.  But, not all students use their Vax accounts
so it is worth it to finger the account and if they do not have a recent
login, it is worth assuming that they will not login any time soon. As for
faculity, their logins are just ehit, oops their last nbames. so prof. Vaugham
would be VAUGHAN@MACALSTR.EDU.

Need anything else from someone at Macalester? My address is NCOLE@<, shit I can not edit. NCOLE@MACALSTR.EDU.

-Noah COle
--
Noah Cole               "I believe in the future        NCOLE@MACALSTR.EDU
Macalester College      there will be no war. Maybe     ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu
St. Paul, MN 55105      not in my lifetime but in    cncole@coos.dartmouth.edu
612-696-7388            yours"- Paul Simon         aj909@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: krangel@pobox.upenn.edu (Eric S Krangel)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: U of Paris
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:45:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


     Does anybody out there in net-land know the E-mail address of the
University of Paris at Sorbonne?   Any information would be appreciated.

     Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: soc.college
From: fxlof@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Liam O Forbes)
Subject: Re: False fire alarms: Are they a problem for you?
Reply-To: fxlof@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:13:01 GMT

	Yes, I think false fire alarms are a problem all over the place.
	The other day a couple of guys were playing koosh baseball in the  
hall while the RA made fun of their pitching.  I went into the bathroom,  
sat down to go and the next thing I hear is a solid thump, someone saying  
"oh shit" and the fire alarm goes off.  Turns out the dust in it got  
stirred up when the koosh ball was thrown into it and it set off the smoke  
detector.  The way a false alarm is handled when the culprits are known is  
they all have to pay the university $250.  If the culprits aren't known,  
everybody who lives on the floor where the alarm was set off has to pay  
$250.  I don't know if this is effective in stopping the prank alarms, but  
it sure makes the university fire department rich.  -Liam
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: Frats
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  6 Nov 92 05:32:35 GMT

tarra@skat.usc.edu (Tom) writes:

>And we have all seen what has happened to the Stanford band over the years.
>They are just as untalented, yet not nearly as funny.  Are you sure you are
>arguing in favor of allowing women?  Using examples like the Stanford band
>as a positive for coed organizations is like using Adolf Hitler as a positive
>example for strong leadership.:)

Note -- I just noticed what school Tom is posting from, so I figured
out why he hates the Stanford Band so much.  I guess all I can say to
that is that the difference between the U$C Band and the Stanford Band
is that we aim to entertain and occasionally miss, while the U$C Band
aims to annoy and usually hits.

Oh well...
Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
From: CWD1@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: HEY PITT, CAN YOU LEND ME A HAND?
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:23:05 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I need some help finding a friendof mine. She goes to school with
you folks at Pitt. So if you don't mind helping someone at Penn State,
can you look up someone for me? if you're willing to help, send me a note.
                        Thanks. oh yeah, since we don't play each other
                          in football any more, I'll take bets on who
                          is going to win the Pitt-Penn State blood drive!
From: nfrance1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Natasha )
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Peace Child Alumni
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:53:25 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College

Hi!  I am looking to talk to people who have been involved with Peace
Child.  I went to Latvia in '88, and was part of the Latvia Reunion Tour in
'89.  I'm wondering how many of us there are out there that use E-mail.  
If you are interested in responding, please send E-mail to
nfrance1@cc.swarthmore.edu.
From: schuyler@acf9.nyu.edu (Gabriel M. Schuyler)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Easy way to find E-mail addresses -- Netfind
Summary: Using netfind
Keywords: netfind, find, address, e-mail
Date: 11 Nov 92 03:35:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: acf9.schuyler.721452937
Organization: New York University

Well, now that I've seen about a dozen posts of "How to I write to XX at
suchandsuch college?"   I figured I should share this info.  You can use the
netfind server at cs.colorado.edu to find people.  just:

telnet to cs.colorado.edu
when it asks "login:" type "netfind"
now you're in the system, and there's help in there.

here's what it looks like when I do this, plus listed below are a couple of
alternate netfind servers, so pick the one closest to you.  This is a great
service, and it will save all the bandwidth that's going to these types of 
posts.

-------------------
Here's what happens
-------------------
! telnet cs.colorado.edu
 
 
Erase is Backspace
Trying 128.138.243.151 ...
Connected to cs.colorado.edu.
Escape character is '^]'.
 
 
SunOS UNIX (bruno)
Login as "netfind" to access netfind server
 
login: netfind
 
=====================================================
Welcome to the University of Colorado Netfind server.
=====================================================
 
Alternate Netfind servers:
        mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (University of Minnesota, Minneapolis)
        malloco.ing.puc.cl (Catholic University of Chile, Santiago)
        archie.au (AARNet, Melbourne, Australia)

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