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From: djg@genrad.com (Deborah J. Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: LOV: Giff and a gun
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:23:47 GMT
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Organization: GenRad, Inc.

Okay, how does someone holding on for dear life manage to get a gun
and shoot someone else?

I'll give you that he then fell to his death, but I would have figured
Giff never should have shot Trucker in the first place.

And, can anyone explain to me HOW Trisha managed to get over the edge
on Firday's show? Last I (and someone else who watches) knew, Trisha
was far from the edge and then allof a sudden she's screaming, hanging
over the edge with Giff. And Trucker, nice humanatarian that he is, is
holding both of them. Sorry, if you kidnapp my spouse, I'd be jumping
on your fingers, wishing I had worn my high heels. "Sorry, officer, he
must have slipped."

I want to know what you think.

deb
(djg@genrad.com)
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From: kriesel@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Julie R Kriesel)
Subject: ATWT
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:44:04 GMT


Well, most of yesterday's epsiode was just so-so, but two things happened
which I suppose were kind of predictable....

About SOW and RoseHand...I am willing to bet my time in the linen closet
with Gilbie that they won't run into ACDC and TheWeinie at Journey's End.
Because that would cause the whole storyline to be resolved, and since when
does that ever happen on ATWT?  :-P  One other thing--I loved it when he
asked her if she wanted him to order for her and she sort of told him off.
Way to go, girl!  

I could have died (not literally) when Seth and Valerie walked into that
CoffeeShop where MHH and the therapist (she needs a nickname!) were.  It
would be so easy for Seth to see MHH, but of course you know that he won't.
(ref. above paragraph.)

At any rate, I have to go to class now.  Hasta...

Special K
From: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Maybe a new home for the show
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:11:59 GMT
Reply-To: greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas)
Organization: David Taylor Research Center, Annapolis, MD

In rec.arts.tv.soaps, jcj@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (j.johnk) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.125321.25765@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> 22302LMK@MSU writes:

stuff deleted


>You know SB might do even better on a different network, move it
>to a network that cares about quality not same old boring characters
>that are portryaed by people who can't even act.

I think this is the way to go.  Try and let SB know that we would like
to have it on some other network.  I think there is NO chance that they
will decide they made a mistake and let it stay on the air.  Maybe writing
ABC and CBS or one of the cable channels (Lifetime or A&E to name two)
to let them know that we would like SB on their network.

When I talked to the SB I asked them about the fact the Home Shopping
club was going to have a SB Collection and wasn't that a good sign.
Meaning that they are a viable moneymaking operation.  I also asked
about the ratings going up, the man I talked to said that they went
back down in the last two weeks.

Also try writing the sponsors, remember the adage "Money Talks".
>
>I just had a thought, how about if SB moved to ABC and became part of
>their daytime lineup and they put it against DAYS.
>I wouldn't be surprised if SB wins that timeslot.  ABC would
>probably do a better job of promoting SB anyway.
>Would NBC look really stupid.  Serves them right.

Boy, do I agree.  SB is the only soap I watch and I will really miss
it.

Stuff deleted

Leila

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From: shellys@cbnewse.cb.att.com (michelle.sulski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: This Time Last Year...
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:09:02 GMT
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Organization: AT&T

In article <199210011909.AA11729@donne.unx.sas.com> alex@unx.sas.com (Alexandra Bost) writes:
>
>As I was preparing to resume my Updater Duties (I will
>start again on Wednesday, October 9th), I took a look 
>back at an update I did last year on October 2nd.  
>
>You might be interested to read what was going on in 
>Pine Valley this time last year....
>
> * Dimitri has convinced Nat to take Timmy and run away 
>   with him to Europe.  Nat is upset she had to "kidnap" 
>   her own son.

Amazing...what that Nat has been through in one year.
Doesn't she deserve the "I've Coped Completely" Certificate?
 
> * Hayley figures out that Janet is pretending to be Nat.  
>   She confronts Janet, who promptly hits Hayley over the 
>   head, ties her up, and throws her in a Mansion tunnel.

That would explain why Hallo took on a whining roll...her
head probably still hurts!
 
> * JaNut and Trevor are in a room of the Black Angus Inn.
>   'Nut begs Trevor to make love to her.  Finally, they do it.
>   Afterwards, as 'Nut says "You are my WHOLE LIFE...," we
>   see Trevor get a look of recognition on his face, then 
>   look like he is going to be sick...
 
>Yes, October 2nd, 1991 was officially known as "Trevor Gets
>A Clue" Day.  :-)  (Or "The Conception of Amanda" Day).
 
I don't think I've ever seen that expression on the Lunk's
face since...  

Thanks for a page in AMC's past.  This could provide all those
"on-the-brink of being disloyal" AMC fans a breath of fresh air
knowing that at one time, the storyline did have us ? captivated ?
 
?~~? ShockWaved Shelly

Wonder Why(s):	We haven't seen B.I.A.N.C.A.?  Maybe she'll turn
		up as Amanda when Natts arrives home from the hospital.
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From: cantor@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (scott eric cantor)
Subject: Hopefully, the last Holly post
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:56:54 GMT


	This is getting to be a stupid discussion, because everyone is taking
this way too personally.  Nobody is going to convince anybody of anything, so
we may as well stop trying.  I am not going to stop being a fan of Holly
because noone else here is (practically anyway), and I'm not going to convince
anyone that Anna was a bitch.  Someone posted a good summary of her behavior
when she first came on the show, and if you don't find that to be pretty
low, then it's obvious you're just as irrationally stubborn about Anna as I
am about Holly.  The whole point I was trying to make is that both characters
did what they did because of the writers (of course), but Holly was written
off the show and then back in, which accounts for what I, and anyone who
liked Holly back in the good old days, find to be out-of-character behavior.
In Anna's case, that doesn't apply.  She was written in as a villain, not as
the soap's leading lady.  She became "good" because Emma Samms left the show
and that left Anna in Robert's life.

	As a last note, I am NOT lying about GH's ratings.  There was an
article in TV-Guide that discussed GH's jump in ratings for two weeks or so
after Emma Samms' return, and Finola Hughes had already been gone for a few
weeks by then.  And I seriously doubt that anyone who followed GH had any real
hope that Robert would find Anna at that point.  It was common knowledge that
she wasn't coming back, and Tristan leaving was pretty well known too.
GH has slipped to sixth or so because of inane storylines and uninteresting
characters.

	I completely agree with whoever mentioned that Emma Samms' acting
isn't the best.  I never said it was, but I'm surprised she can stand to utter
any of the lines they give her these days.  I must disagree with the chemistry
issue, however.  Holly and Luke always had chemistry, and I see the signs of
it with Bill.  They certainly seem to enjoy acting together onscreen.  Now
if they would just establish his character instead of jumping him all over the
place...

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From: dcannon@bach.udel.edu (Debbie Cannon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: OLTL: Update Monday 9-28
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:56:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvI4AC.CIJ
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <BvI30o.ADG@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> slaury@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Susan Laury) writes:
>This just occurred to me: what about Sloana nd Renee getting together?
>I could see that working. Other than his obsession with Vicky, I
>like the new-and-improved Sloan, and I've always really liked
>Renee.

Funny you should mention this, Sus. 'Cause I remember thinking
the same thing awhile back. I semi-remember a scene where they were
at, I think, the Buchanan Hotel. Clint, Sloan, and Viki were at
a table talking; Renee walked in and the gentlemen politely went
to another table while the ladies chatted (may have concerned
Renee's troubles with Asa). And it seemed to me that Sloane showed
some interest in Renee, I seem to recall thinking "umm, could this
be a potential couple" simply because of the way he looked at her.
And I also like this new Sloane and Renee has always been a favorite
of mine, also. Well, maybe there's still hope...

TGIF!
Debbie
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Subject: B&B: A "bleeding shame"
From: That one girl <JR6BPOLW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 15:26:33 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <1992Sep29.133556.17213@dmntor.UUCP>, toni@dmntor.UUCP (Toni
Spurgeon) says:
 
>Here's the look ahead:
>             ... Brooke learns her latest project is a bleeding shame
>aand uses it to work her way into Ridge's heart (? I don't get
>this...!)
 
I could be wrong, but perhaps Brooke miscarries again...the more
I think about it, the less likely it seems, but I wonder what else
"a bleeding shame" could be...
 
Thanks, Toni, for the info!
 
 
 
Julie
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From: shellys@cbnewse.cb.att.com (michelle.sulski)
Subject: Re: AMC  Hayley's racoon eyes
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 11:59:14 GMT

In article <9210011145.AA08623@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> 20676DOC@MSU.EDU ("Darren.Meahl") writes:
>GIVE ME A BREAK!!!!!!!!!!  Are the writers SERIOUSLY telling us that Hayley
>gets rescued on the beach and goes to the hospital to be checked out and gets
>to an AA meeting and NEVER ONCE GOES INTO A BATHROOM AND SEES HERSELF IN THE
>MIRROR AND WIPES THE MASCARA OFF FROM UNDER HER EYES??!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Seems for Hallo, the destitute look "is in".  It was probably the 
makeup artist's perception of...dark circles under her eyes.  


?~~? ShockWaved Shelly
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From: jules@atlastele.com (Jules Lang)
Subject: Re: AMC: Dimitri and Angelique
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:54:25 GMT

In article <YejwAkC00WBM89NUNL@andrew.cmu.edu> Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I loved today's show, especially the scenes with Angelique and Dimitri. 
>After watching them together, I can only think that everyone was wrong
>about Jack and Angelique, and I was wrong about Angel and Dim.  It
>really seemed as if they (Angel and Dim) really love each other.  They
>really connected in those scenes.

I think that Dim really loves Angel, but he loves Erica more!


>I actually felt sorry for Dim.  He finally opened up to Angel and told
>her about his fears.  It was so good to finally see that Dim is not the
>cold, unfeeling, egomaniac that everyone thinks he is.

When he opened up to Angel, I think he was sincere about the dream he's
been having, but when he stated he wanted the woman who really knew him
better than anyone, he was talking about Erica.  That is why he was crying.
He was being honest with Angel, but he was talking about Erica.


>
>I also liked Angel in those scenes.  And, as you can tell from previous
>posts, I am not a big fan of Angel's.  But she was good in those scenes
>and I think that she and Dim will stay together.
>
>And since no soap couple can ever be happy for too long, this reinforces
>my view that Erica will end up pregnant.  But since Angel and Dim seem
>to have a new commitment to each other, Charlie will claim to be the
>father of Erica's baby (I know, I know, it's an over-used plot device on
>AMC--Tad did it for Dixie and Weeble,  Tom did it twice, Barbara and
>Molly, and Brooke and Jamie).  Of course, in the end, all will come out,
>and then we'll see who Dim really loves.


I think that BOTH Angel and Erica are preggers.  That brings an interesting
twist to the storyline!


jules@atlastele.com
A recent unlurker!!
From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: Carter and Dinah Lee
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:03:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.145440.18299@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> wicksd@hermes.ecn.purdue.edu (Donna M Wicks) writes:
>   It's been a while since I posted. My move to Flint went
>Natalie in the well - no newsgroups and no e-mail. Life
>was hell in the well :) It's good to be back on.

Welcome back, Donna! I understand your descriptions. It's like a net.addiction
:-)
>   E: Travis is that you?
>   Clay/Travis: I'm sorry ma'am you must have me mistaken
>        for somebody else - I'm Clay Alden.

I got a kick out of this! It would be funny. Or E would say how much
he's changed...

Glad to have you back. We're still as kooky as ever :-) and we have
a whole bunch of new posters! :-)))))

CAZ
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Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: A Redskins fan speaks out!
From: Nelson Broat <NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 2 Oct 1992 19:32:48 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In a previous article Ricky Moranis wrote:
>
>>Broat -Nelson- ALL wrote:
>>
>>Much like Bill, I can always hang with a Skins or Cowboys fan, but never,
>>never, ever with an Eagles fan! Buddy Ryan showed me the light and the error
>>of my ways. :-)
>
>Hmmmmmm....I don't care about the Eagles anymore, win or lose.  But I did
>like Buddy Ryan!
>
>Now.  You can't hang with an Eagles fan because Buddy showed you the light.
>Technically, I'm not an Eagles fan.  But I was a Buddy-Ball fan.  Does that
>mean you can't hang with me?

How very astute of you. :)

Definition of Buddy Ball - Take cheap shots and don't worry about what
the league has to say about it. Prior to Buddy-Ball, I had nothing but
respect for the Eagles, it was the Cowboys whom I hated. Sorry EV, but
those damn 2-minute drills masterfully conducted by Roger Staubach and those
gut wrenching last second field goals by Septian (sp?), it was enough to make
a grown man cry, and I did.

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From: sylanov@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Christine V Sylanov)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:Tom's face is too tight
Date: 27 Sep 1992 22:52:07 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu

In article <1992Sep25.165516.18231@dsd.es.com> apetty@dsd.es.com writes:
>
>	After watching Thursday's show, does anyone else think
>	that Tom's new hair color is less than flattering?  And
>	I think he is missing a few character lines around his
>	eyes.
>
>	Anybody else think so?
>



>	Annie

	Yes, Annie, I agree.  It's more than just a hairjob.
	I say he definitely had something else done. Too bad
	my mother doesn't watch soaps, she's an expert on
	face-jobs, wanting to have something done on herself.

	Christine


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	insane outburst of hysterical rage" -Ashleigh Brilliant
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 1992 09:41:30 -0400 
From: "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: GL: SPOILER!!!
	<1992Oct1.160547.2761@usl.edu>

>thanks for the scoop!!!  something to look forward to!
>i just can't see gilly putting the pictures on roger's desk -- perhaps
>david will do it for her...
 
 
>--donald
>...still waiting for susan piper to return!!!


You called this one, Gilly was going to show Roger, then Roger pissed
her off and didn't.  So David took matters into his own hands on
Wednesday.  Now on Thursday, David tells Gilly, Gilly is pissed again. 
She wants to go "resue" them....but the spoiler says, NOT!

Susan

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From: judim@wes.on.ca (Judi Mota)
Subject: Re: Y&R - Drucilla the Dragon
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 20:15:51 GMT

In article <M1MWO99.92Sep24075227@libcs1.fed.frb.gov> m1mwo99@fed.frb.gov (Micheal W. Owens) writes:
>Dru is not a bad person.  You must remember she is from the streets and once you are there, you have a small chance of changing.  I think sometimes she does
>get out of hand and need a swift kick in her butt, but I like her.  The
>writers need to put her and Neil together and leave the two sisters alone
>for awhile.  I think the story was going good until Dru did the center fold.
>
>Spike

I watched yesterday's episode (here in Ontario we seem to get the program
one day ahead of our neighbours south of the border).  I don't want to spoil
anything for anyone watching but Drucilla's performance in that show was
very moving (for me anyways).  I know IOAS, but I personally think it takes
a very good actress to play a smart-ass, yet deep down sensitive.  Up to now,
I thought Melody Scott-Thomas (Thomas-Scott?) (Nikki anyways) was the best
at turning on the tears but Dru almost had me crying!

Judi

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From: susanm@an.hp.com (Susan Margulies)
Subject: Re: AMC: Dixie as 2nd Fiddle (was Comments)
Reply-To: susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara Division
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Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:34:56 GMT

Kristy Patterson (kristyp@coos.dartmouth.edu) wrote:
: 
: Brian; WHAT A JERK!!!  As soon as Hayley tells him to get lost, running to
: Dixie: "I made a mistake. YOU'RE the woman I want." Sure, now that Hayley
: told you to get scr*wed. I will scream if she falls for that.
: 

While I do like Dixie and Brian together, I hope she refuses the urge 
to get back together with him.  If she doesn't, then she has zero
dignity.  Or rather her hormones are more important to her than her
dignity.  I was in a situation with an ex-boyfriend once where he left
me to take up with someone else, and he crawled back within what seemed 
like only a few minutes.  Like an idiot, I took him back and had another
miserable 6 months with him before it happened again.  The 2nd time, I
told him where to go!  I do not play understudy in relations of the heart!
And if Dixie is smart (sheah!) she won't either.  Brian *chose* Hayley - 
is Dixie just supposed to forget that?!

Susan

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Date: Tuesday, 29 Sep 1992 16:35:09 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: BO

In article <1992Sep23.144449.28148@den.mmc.com>,
snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Camp) says:
>
>It is a damn good thing I didn't have a gun nearby yesterday, as
>I probably would have shot Bo's head off.  All this shit about

Wish you would have, then all of our lives would have been better :-)
Gee, that would mean a life without Bo and Carly, Ahhhh, what a thought.
>
>I guess I just don't understand how he can be so hateful because
>Carlips had to tell Lawrence about the child they spawned together.

Wait a minute.  Sure Carlips and Lawrence spawned a child together but,
so did Hope and Bo.  Remember Shawn D?  He should understand the feelings
Carly is feeling about the child now after what him and Hope went through.

>I thought when you loved someone, you accepted the past of the
>other and let it go....I know if I were Carlips, I would be pretty
>angry at his reaction.  How can he except her to ever be happy and
>comfortable with him if this huge lie is hanging over her head?
>Where is the trust and honesty in this relationship?

Oops, I guess I jumped the gun a little bit.  The above remarks should have
been placed here.  Sorry folks.

>Oh well, it is not as if I could really care, I can't stand
>either of them.
>
I think the feelings mutual all over this net, with a few exceptions,
of course.

>On the flip side, I am pleased with the fact that the writers
>are giving Victor his strength back, and not making him into
>a sap by being all lovey/dovey with Vivian.
>
Yeah, it was great to see his backbone reappear, wasn't it?

>Well, thats all, if you even made it this far.
>
>Picklet
>
Thanks Picklet.
>
A happy because she is still receiving a lot of messages on the net (921) as
of this post Quince


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