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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDRom help
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:01:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Jul28.000123.36
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Hi, Lance...

I've been researching CDROM on the Amiga for about a year now and am just
about ready to take the plunge.  In answer to some of your questions...

 > Is there a "standard" CDROM drive?

Yes... it is a SCSI drive for Macs and Amigas.  Additionally, the disks
themselves have different formats... ISO 9660 for IBM and Amiga, HFS for
Mac.


 > If I just go out and buy a SCSI NEC, Toshiba, etc... is this driver
 > software going to let me access what I need it to?

Yes, but buy the driver software FIRST and then buy a CDROM drive from a
reputable vendor in Computer Shopper.  Not all software supports all CDROM
drives, so get one of the drives that is supported.  

The ad you refer to comes from Asimware Innovations.  They responded to a
mailed inquiry of mine and were the 1st company to do so... neither Xetec
nor Canadian Prototype Replicas answered my letters.  You KNOW who I'll be
doing business with soon.  ;-)


 > Can anyone tell me about the Xetec CDROM drive?

Sure.  It's a Chinon CDS-431x drive that supposedly has a 350 msec access
time.  Asimware recommends this drive for its reliability after a year's
worth of "hard use".  The Toshiba 32xx and 33xx series of drives are quite
good as well.


 > I know CDROM drives are quite slow, but what is considered 
 > 'too slow' for this type of drive?

Anything under 400 msec is considered fast enough for serious use.  Many of
the better CDROM drives are in the 350 msec access time range.  Some drives
are 500 msec and even 800-1000 msec.  Be sure to get a drive that is <400
msec access time or you will spend a lot of time waiting for files to be
found.

Hope that this helps a bit.  C ya,



                -=- Ed


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: hessmann@unipas.fmi.uni-passau.de (Georg Hessmann)
Subject: Re: Amiga TeX
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:48:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.203441.3758@hubcap.clemson.edu> ddyer@hubcap.clemson.edu (Doug Dyer) writes:
[...]
>
>There is TeX stuff in wustle archive at
>utilities/text/utils (i know, a strange place for it):
>
>Stay away from that fish version unless you have 4megs of spare fast ram :(.
>Also, be warned that pastex1.3 on wustle were compressed with a
>no-longer supported version of ZOOM (4.2) and I think have corruption
>problems as well ( Though I can only find zoom4.1 and 5.4 to try).

You can get zoom 4.2 from ftp.uni-passau.de /pub/amiga/archivers/zoom42.lzh
There are no problems unpacking PasTeX1.3 archives with this version of zoom.

[...]

	Georg.


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From: barrett@gleep.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Random Guru with JRComm1.02a. Can it be fixed?
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:06:50 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@gleep.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <sheldon.712096564@du139-208.cc.iastate.edu> sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon) writes:
>>>>errorcode #80000003. Doesn't JRComm handle A3000 well, or does it not
>>>>approve of kickstart 2.04, and - more importantly - is there a fix for it?

> I find this strange.  He's running on an A3000 but getting the same GURU
>that plagues 68000 based computers.

	It's not strange at all.  There is nothing about Guru 80000003
that is at all unique to the 68000 Amigas -- it's a general kind of error.
(Coincidentally, it has gotten some special attention by certain USENET
people with respect to the 68000.)

                                                        Dan

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From: u2112539@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Help -- again -- for Post :-(
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:12:31 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

	Hi netland, I have a problem I can't get around. I have tried
everything. It's about Post again. IT does not Print %$#%$#. Screan rep is fast
and great. But printing will not work. I have tried may things I can't see what
is wrong.I have an A3000 with 6megs. I have tried low resolution, only printer
output, postband, editing the init.ps. I mean it finds the fonts for the screen
but cannot print them #@$@$@$#. Yesterday I managed to print a page with those
round dots (ie if it can't find the fonts so it does not have a problem with
the prt: or par:) But if I can see the fonts on screen whay can't they go to
the printer ?????
	Please help, Pleeeeeese
		George
From: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: c.s.a.reviews alive? (was Re: comp.binaries/sources.amiga)
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:34:13 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst


	Not only have c.sources.a and c.binaries.a been silent, but
also c.s.a.reviews.  Is c.s.a.reviews still alive?  I have sent mail
to the moderator several times in the last month but gotten no
replies.

                                                        Dan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: wbennett@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William F Bennett)
Subject: Auto Extract Files
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:25:58 GMT



     I just downloaded DMS1.11 and found out that it is an self extracting 
file. This is the first time I have encountered such a beast. Could someone 
tell me how to extract it? The extender is .sfx.

     Thanx in advance.
-- 
Bill Bennett     wbennett@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: A4000 article
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:54:11 GMT

TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>That's a fascinating post, but there's nothing about being
>able to run Windows 3.1. Will it be able to do that?

The Amiga can do that now I believe, unless Windows 3.1 requires better
than a 386SX.

-- Gerald
From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: 1023k Chip RAM
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:26:08 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

mpue2@syma.sussex.ac.uk (James E. Talbut) writes:
>Last night I stuck some more memory in my A2000, and afterwards I
>started looking at the nice big numbers that 'avail' was giving me.
>For fast RAM I had exactly 5 * 1024 * 1024 bytes,
>but for Chip RAM I had only 1 * 1023 * 1024 bytes.
>                                ^^^^
>
>What has happened to the other K that I should have ?

Well the exception vectors (256 - 4byte vectors) need to go somewhere
and on 68000 machines they *MUST* be at location 0 and up.  So the first
1K of memory is used by the OS and never made available.

(Plus there is 32 bytes per memory block that can never be made available
due to the fact that the memory header had to go somewhere...)

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:11978 comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:19845
From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: C= speaks!!! let's spread the words!!!
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 14:21:07 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <haley.712307619@unixg.ubc.ca> <1992Jul28.180653.5280@jato.jpl.nasa.gov>

In article <1992Jul28.180653.5280@jato.jpl.nasa.gov>
jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson) writes:

| [...]
| Why now is Commodore finally taking notice? Because some
| hotshot Silicon Valley reporter got on their case? Don't we count?

Like it or not, Phillip Robinson is syndicated, and his column appears
in all major metropolitan areas.  Thus, his "word" is seen by many (far
more, in fact, than I would believe read comp.sys.amiga.* or ALL of the
Amiga-related magazines combined).

8 years ago he WAS writing nice things about the Amiga; in his recent
article he explained his frustrations and the fact Commodore reneged
on promises of machines and hardware for review.  I still have some of
Phillip's early articles, and, in fact, his articles were one of the
reasons I initially became so excited about the then-pending Amiga (this
was back in 1984).

| And how come nothing from C= has been posted here? Why must we hear about
| _everything_ second hand? Does C= really give a shit or are we just along
| for another joy ride?

I agree with you; the "Commodore Speaks" response was reposted en passant
from some BBS (or whatever).  It would be nice to see first-hand releases.

Thad Floryan [ thad@cup.portal.com ]
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:11988 comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:19879
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 article
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 18:16:45 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

That's a fascinating post, but there's nothing about being
able to run Windows 3.1. Will it be able to do that?
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:11923 comp.sys.amiga.advocacy:19729
From: rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: C= speaks!!! let's spread the words!!!
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:13:46 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University

In article <1992Jul27.172316.591@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:

[thanks for cross-posting this information]

> *   Commodore is not "killing" the Amiga.  In fact, the company,
>     and its developer network, currently are working on several
>     enhancements to the Amiga product line.  Significant product
>     announcements are planned this Fall at the World of Commodore
>     show in Pasadena.

Hmm... it could be sooner than we think (Sept 11-13).

>We are taking specific steps to not only regarding this incident but
>also to ensure that we regain more leverage and positive coverage in
>the general media and reporting environment going forward.  To that
>end, we're planning some specific press events at both World of
>Commodore and Fall Comdex.  We've also begun an intensive telephone
>contact campaign to strengthen our ongoing relationships with hundreds
>of editors, reporters, and freelancers who write about Commodore and
>the Amiga.  We are committed to increasing the flow of accurate
>information to these important and influential media audiences.

It's not an A600 :). 

Mark

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From: wfaust@aurea.hotb.sub.org (Wolf Faust)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re:  Tired of "printer not responding" requesters!
Date: 26 Jul 92 03:36:34 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <kehlet.05pt@kehlet.adsp.sub.org> kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet) writes:

>Normally, you get no real buffering unless you use the printer on its
>serial port, but you could try this one to get some speed:
>
>begin 777 FastMode.LHA
>M'I0M;&@U+6H!``"T`0``R76*%P``"$9A<W1-;V1ELV0!3&*=]FE8;_PPFGSPJ

1. You simply have to patch the drivers "timeout" (usualy 30 seconds) to
avoid the requester.

2. FastMode has some drawbacks:

   o  it slows down the speed on an accelerated machine significantly!
      yes... on plain Amigas you get a speed increase... to much
      to tell here why...

   o  in case the device is flushed, you have to restart FastMode

>     Jesper Kehlet, Compos Mentis Software Systems -- A Kind Of Magic

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu ("sam hulick")
Subject: Virus_Checker v6.15 (was Re: Virus_Checker 6.06 is out)
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:58:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.233357.18270@cs.mun.ca> merril@odie.cs.mun.ca (Merril Locke) writes:
> 6.15 is out I d/loaded it about a week ago.   - Merril -
>
>-- 

Doesn't sound right.  I've checked amiga.physik and used archie and can't find
it.  Could be a BS version put out by some hacker?

-- 
Sam Hulick  ///  E-mail: shulick@indiana.edu (including NeXT mail)
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From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Unix style parent directory (..)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 23:29:27 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>I'm looking for a smart cd command or something similar
>to reduce the shock of going back and forth between
>amigados and unix on a daily basis.  Is there some OS patch
>that will recognize ".." or "." and substitute the apropriate
>directory path?
>
>Thanks,
>Steve
>
>--
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>              \  /                                           It's not a job...
>         UCSD  \/ ision Lab                                  It's an indenture
.
>

How about shell aliases like

alias . cd :
alias .. cd /

I just tried them and they work fine. (Love this multitasking!)
(Er, If I remember right, that's what Unix . and .. are?)

-Joel
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From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: AmigaGuide ?
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:09:54 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

rzsaj@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Andreas Jung) writes:
- I am just using TeXT Plus Professional and BootX 5.00. Both programs
- are using the program "AmigaGuide" for their help system. I think
- it is a kind of hypertext system.
- 
- What is AmigaGuide and where can I find it !
- 
Become a developer and license the software - or wait...

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From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga software emulator for PC?
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:17:41 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

PROHVK38@TREARN.BITNET (Cem Turgay) writes:
>In <1992Jul24.125046.16117@unibi.uni-bielefeld.de>,
>markus@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Markus Illenseer) wrote:
>>  Anyway, the hardware of the Amiga can't be emulated by software.
>
>mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) saids;
>> How about "Can't be legally emulated" or "Can't yet be emulated at
>> reasonable speed". If you want to fund it, I'll write the emulator for
>> you. Just don't expect to run as fast as say, PC-task on an A500.
>
>May you can write it only in your dream. B-)
>
>IBM has a fund. Go and say; 'I will write an Amiga emulator for
>you, if you give me more money...' to IBM guys.
>I bet, they will only laugth to you.  They have money but
>they have also knowledge about the Amiga hardware...
>
>It is imposible my friend.
>If you don't trust me, go and try my comments. IBM has a more
>funds for R&D. (about 5,000,000,000 dollars)
>
>So, real system programmers never come with the project of Amiga
>emulator, because they know software and hardware capable of PCs.

I hate to tell you this bud, but there is VERY LITTLE in this world that is
impossible.  One of the things that makes the IBM Amiga emulator impossible is
that an IBM's Disk Controller cannot read and Amiga formatted disk, thus it
can't read a kickstart file off of one.  There are ways around this of course,
but not in the fasion that the emulator claims to work.

It is NOT, however, impossible to emulate the amiga custom chipset.  Given a
386 or so, it might even be able to do so at a decent fraction of the speed a
that the real chipset works (course you wouldn't be able to do much else). 
Using an MMU would especially facilitate matters by remapping custom chip
adresses to sofware routines that do the particular jobs.

Granted, things like the copper would be especially difficult to emulate
PROPERLY, but you get get a facsimile that at least would work, just not give
all the effects your used to.

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From: sjc28473@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven Joseph Chmura)
Subject: Re: Random Guru with JRComm1.02a. Can it be fixed?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:50:19 GMT

Mike_Noreen%cave@sweden.eu.net (Mike Noreen) writes:

>I run JRComm v1.02a on my A3000 with 6Mb RAM, and kick2.04 in ROM, and I
>love it.
>However; every now and then, the computer will guru upon connect, with
>errorcode #80000003. Doesn't JRComm handle A3000 well, or does it not
>approve of kickstart 2.04, and - more importantly - is there a fix for it?

Try running CygnusEd while JR-COmm is open.  Crash and burn 9/10.

We need memory protection.  I am sick of a screen blanker crashing Vistpro
after 20 hours of rendering.

-- 
							Steven Chmura
							MD-2-B
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Virus_Checker 6.06 is out
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:24:08 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <uFg6NB4w164w@cellar.org> by rogue@cellar.org (Rachel McGregor):
> I just ftp'ed it from uiowa this weekend - it was uploaded about a week and

    Virus_Checker 6.15 is out... :)

>    Rachel McGregor (rogue@cellar.org) - research contractor, modem junkie
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From: rzsaj@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Andreas Jung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: PowerPacker
Keywords: powerpacker
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:44:48 GMT


There are two versions of PowerPacker: a commercial version (V 4)
and a public domain version (V 2.3).

There also exists a shared library called powerpacker.library
which is compatible to the PowerPacker program. This library
is public domain and is used by a lot of Amiga PD programs.

The latest release of the powerpacker.library is called
"PPLib_1.5.lha" and can be found on nearly every good ftp site.
(Try amiga.physik.unizh.ch or one of its mirrors).



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad)
Subject: Filesplitters, revisited
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 21 Jul 92 02:00:31 CDT
Summary: I need a multi-platform one

Hi,

A few weeks back, someone posted a message the gave a source for a file splitter
that would work on a wide range of systems.  Specifically, I need one that
runs on an Amiga and also a Sun.  C source is fine, since I have an Amiga
compiler.

Does anyone remember what file splitter this was and where it's avaliable?
Those messages have already scrolled off of our system here.

Thanks.

						---Joel Kolstad


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: lgibb@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lance Gibb)
Subject: CDRom help
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:20:22 GMT


I need some advice on getting a CDROM player for my Amiga 2000.
 
I am mainly interested in being able to access Public Domain software
disks for a variety of platforms(amiga, IBM, Mac), namely the
fred fish collection as well as other collections for other machines.
 
I saw an ad in the back of an Amiga World talking about some driver
software that would allow a standard CDROM drive to access a variety
of formats including CDTV, Mac, and some others.
 
so my question is:  Is there a "standard" CDROM drive?  If I just go
out and buy a SCSI NEC, Toshiba, etc... is this driver software going
to let me access what I need it to?  The only CDROM drive that I have
ever seen advertised in Amiga World is the Xetec.  Can anyone tell me
about this one?  It seems to be overpriced comapred to SCSI drives
from Sony, NEC, etc...
 
Also, I know CDROM drives are quite slow, but what is considered 
'too slow' for this type of drive?  Is 200miliseconds average, faster
than average, or what?  If I buy a 400milisecond drive am I going
to be disapointed?  I would strictly be using the drive to retrieve
PD software from, possibly on a BBS, and I "might" want to access a
CDTV title or two.
 
Any help you can give me what-so-ever would really be appreciated,
either from personal experience or reading, etc...
 
Thanks

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts)
Subject: Re: Unix style parent directory (..)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:33:38 GMT

In <36248@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ps296au@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Steven Cobb) writes:

>I'm looking for a smart cd command or something similar
>to reduce the shock of going back and forth between
>amigados and unix on a daily basis.  Is there some OS patch
>that will recognize ".." or "." and substitute the apropriate
>directory path?

If you are not using csh (5.19 at the moment), then you are not using your
shell properly.

Ken