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From: jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry cullingford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: protocols, speeds, what are V42bis, etc..
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:57:11 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <2507@ulysse.enst.fr> jeannet@stheno.enst.fr (Olivier Jeannet) writes:
>Does a "bis" indicate the use of MNPx protocol ?
No.. it's more of a "new improved second attempt" :-)
as in V22 = 1200 baud, V22bis = 2400 baud,  V32=9600, V32bis=14400.

Usually the 'bis' version is based on a somewhat similar system, but better.





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From: oleg@crumpet.cts.com (Oleg Rovner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VT220/VT340 Terminal emulation?
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:59:04 PST
Organization: Church O' Lantern


In article <1992Sep14.071620.20632@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:

[recommendation for Meshuggenah  as an emulator and some of Mark's post deleted]

> 
>    What the original poster was looking for was a VT240/340 emulator.  There
> are **LIGHT-YEARS** of differences between the VT220 and VT240.  VT240 is
> as big a step up from VT220 as the A4000 is from the A1000.  
> anything for the Amiga that does this.

Mark, stay in advocacy or wait a while so that the articles you refer to can
expire. Otherwise it is too easy to catch your misrepresentations. For example:

]Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
]From: abeech@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Adrian Beech)
]Subject: VT220/VT340 Terminal emulation?
          ^^^^^
]Date: 12 Sep 92 22:41:31 GMT

]Anyone know of a commercial or PD comms package that will correctly emulate
]VT220 and VT340 terminals?  I need to connect to a Sun and use Word Perfect.
 ^^^^^
]The VT100 and VT102 emulations are not suitable for this type of work.

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]Adrian V. Beech                              E-MAIL: A.Beech@ext.gu.edu.au

> 
> ---
> | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
> --------------------------------------------------

Also, Term includes a VT340 emulation, although I have not had an opportunity
to test it out.

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From: kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts)
Subject: Other than Dnet ...
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:04:48 GMT


Other than Dnet, what communications programs can I use to transfer files 
between my amiga and a unix account in the background while still maintaing an
interactive session?

	I will be trying to set up slip soon, so I am looking for something
different yet.  (All over a v.32 connection)

Thanks,

	Ken
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: BaudBandit 1.40
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 15:27:05 GMT

>If it's the terminal program Baud Bandit written by Greg Cunningham and
>published by Progressive Peripherals you're asking for, this is a commercial
>product.  If it's that "baudbandit.device" serial device that someone
>in Europe cooked up and released a couple months ago, that's another story,
>and a VERY unfortunate choice of names, if ya ask me. 

It's the serial device he's looking for, I think, and yep, not a good choice
for a name (I wouldn't even carry it on my system for the first two releases
because I thought it was pirated).  BTW, doncha think PP&S's lawyers might
be interested in that name?  ;-)

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From: hamster@werple.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: The cause for Term problems? (was Re: Term 2.3 still has problems...)
Date: 5 Sep 92 06:17:54 GMT
Organization: werple public-access UNIX, Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.apana.org.au

dwdyer@polari.online.com writes:

>I just got a copy of Term 2.3 and it dies more often than not.  It's the
>guru 8000 0003, every time.  So, you're not alone.  

2.2 or 2.3 have never guru'd on me at all. Except when exiting! I
tracked that down to the capture buffer corrupting the memory list, if
that's any help to anyone. Keeping a lid on the buffer size seems to fix
that one.

>[most of list deleted]
>>   19 Toolmanager        0   12:44:33    0:00:03.620   0.3%   4096    254

>This is the only one we have in common that is of the suspicious type.  I've
>had problems with Toolmanager before, and I'm about to check it out and see
>if it is the troublemaker.  If it is, I'm going back to SteveX's ToolsX

Naaah, try the new version of ToolsDaemon (2.0b) by Nico Francios. Much
nicer, it lets you have multiple menus, sub-menus and even those little
"A"-key symbols in them (wow!) :-) It also doesn't take an etenity to
parse its menu file like ToolManager does. On the neggative side, hey
Nico, can we have configurable paths and cd's please? 

And now back to your regular comms discussion... :-)
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From: huebnere@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Huebner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Term 2.3 problem : a new one?
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:15:59 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


  I've been reading about Term 2.3 bugs for some time and this is one
I haven't seen mentioned before.  First - I am running the 68000 version
under Workbench 2.04 with NOTHING other than standard startup-sequence
programs running in background:

  If I set the SERIAL parameters to 7N1 which is the setup required to
dialup our University modems, Term will not recognize or process the
VT100 emulation codes.  The codes appear on my screen as ASCII.  If I
set to 8N1 and strip bit 8 in the TERMINAL menu, the same thing occurrs.
If I DON'T strip bit 8, the text appears garbled.

  Just to verify that its not the fault of my UNIX account or the ISN
server; NComm and one other PD term program handled this perfectly
after switching to 7 Data Bits. 

  I believe this WORKED under 2.2B but now is broken.  Does anyone have
suggestions or corroboration of this error?

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From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: protocols, speeds, what are V42bis, etc..
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 22:06:50 GMT

In article <paulk.1e5k@terapin.com> paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz) writes:
>What on earth does the word "bis" actually mean as a word?  Is it French or
>something?

I seem to remember reading this somewhere.  I beleive it is French for
"the second" or something like that, as in v.32 and v.32 "the second."

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From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: HST & SUpra: which is faster?
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:53:10 PST
Organization: BBS

ISDN and totally digital phone systems are also looming near in the US, at
least in some more urbanized areas.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: monsoor@nextnet.csus.edu (Matt Monsoor)
Subject: Re: Urgent Request...
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:54:39 GMT

In article <5kyyrjp@rpi.edu> danaf@aix.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.) writes:
>That's the major problem.. i have no idea what this stupid box wants. Someone
>suggested to me that it may be looking for a CTS signal, but JRComm will not do
>CTS/RTS handshaking unless it gets a DSR signal, which the box does not gener-
>ate. I'm going to have to ask someone with an Amiga, or someone at the RPI
>Telecomm office. 
>
>SIGH.
>
>Why can't I have a normal computer like EVERYBODY ELSE?  9)
>
><<Just kidding... in the words of the Moose, "Amigas are better.">>
>
>I am...
>  -Frank Dana, known (718)-(212)-(516) over as Amiuser/Doc Ami!

 
Any signal on the connector can be jumpered to "fake" what the box is looking
for...Are you positive that the box does work?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: cramer@vivaldi.psu.edu (Michael R. Cramer)
Subject: Ethernet for the 500...
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 17:18:06 GMT


Does anyone know of Ethernet hardware support for the Amiga 500. Pennn State
just made Ethernet hookups available in alot of the dorm rooms, but I need
some way to hook my 500 up to it....I know there is a card available for the
2000/3000 but with no expansion slots on the 500 i'm getting worried!
 
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From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GVP PhonePak Speed?
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:53:24 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Sep8.111517.42846@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> 2ftqkiln@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Does the GVP phonepak run at 9600 or maybe even 14400?
>is this for both datacomm and fax? just wondering!

It was my understanding that Phonepak didn't include a modem.  (Though I'm
told that I'm wrong sometimes...  *I* don't think so :)

--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
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From: heuvdp@cbmnl.nl.so.commodore.com (Paul Heu vd Netherlands)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: The cause for Term problems? (was Re: Term 2.3 still has problems...)
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:51:45 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Organization: Commodore Netherlands

dwdyer@polari.online.com writes:
> 
> [most of list deleted]
> >   19 Toolmanager        0   12:44:33    0:00:03.620   0.3%   4096    254
> 
> This is the only one we have in common that is of the suspicious type. 
I'm running Toolmanager 1.5 together with Term and never have
trouble with any of them..
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: lauwilli@nmsu.edu (WILLIAMS)
Subject: Help with DLG-Pro Needed
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 08:43:20 GMT

I have DLG-Pro up and running I only have one small problem. That is 
when the caller logoff it locks the screen up and I haft to re-boot
my computer. I have tried changing everything that I know of but
nothing helps. I even reinstalled the program and that diden't help.
Can someone help me Please.

Thanks
E-Mail lauwilli@OPUS.NMSU.Edu 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: amc1@cec2.wustl.edu (Adam M. Costello)
Subject: DNet & nfs-handler & snfs
Keywords: DNet nfs
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:25:39 GMT

I just got DNet, which came with the files nfs-handler on the amiga
side and snfs on the unix side.  Neither was accompanied by any
documentation, not even an example mountlist entry for the handler.
These sound very intriguing.  What am I supposed to do with them?

Thanks,
AMC
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Wanted: specification of SkyPix
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:31:49 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz) writes:

>I think we can proclaim SkyPix to be dead at this point.  I wonder if
>Jack could make a smaller JR-Comm version (JR Jr?) that leaves out
>SkyPix support.  I wonder how much that would save...

  About 10k.  It's gone and in it's place are VT-220, scripts, ARexx, XPR and
some other stuff.

  -jack-
From: Randy_Schnedler@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Randy Schnedler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Wanted: specification of SkyPix
Date: 11 Sep 92 06:01:54 GMT
Organization: The Flying Circus BBS, San Antonio, TX
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.23 (Sep 11 1992)


In <6oJwqB3w165w@lakes.trenton.sc.us>, disk@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Diskraker) writes:
> jtrimble@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Jason Trimble) writes:
> 
> > In article <wsZsqB3w165w@bugend.edvina.se> ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vi
> > >Here's another one....
> > >
> > >What I'm also looking for is the specifications for the SkyPix format 
> > >use by some BBSes.
> > 
> > 	It is used ONLY by Skyline systems (legally). It is a proprietary
> > system invented my Michael Cox 
> 
> 
> What a turd...  Howcome JR-Comm has it then?  That's like saying you 
> can't use ANSI without the Institute's permission...  I would think that 
> as long as you asked they wouldn't care.  Especially since SkyTerm reeks 
> so profusely...

JR-Comm has it because Jack Radigan talked to Michael Cox about
including it.  Just ask Michael--He probably wouldn't mind, especially
if you're upfront with him about it.  Michael is no longer supporting
Skypix with Skyline v2.0.

Now, I agree that SkyTerm ranks among the WORST pieces of software
(second to SkyPaint, perhaps?  ;-)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: Citadel68K doors wanted
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 16:19:36 GMT

In article <65273@cup.portal.com> Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON) writes:

>Actually, I used to play Nuclear Warfare by Flying Buffalo!  Yes the
>idea is similar.  This game is not a PBM game, and turns are not as
>rigid.  I will probably be sending out a version to Fred Fish when I
>finish testing.  I still have some work to do with the configuration
>files and a few things like that.  Is Flying Buffalo still in business?
>I haven't played their games in over 10 years.

I assume this was to me, since I commented on something on this thread about a week ago.
Anyway, I'm looking forward to it.  One thing I'd like to know:  in this case, we have
a BBS game that duplicates a copywritten card game (or comes close).  Have you been
in contact with the original company (FBI or Steve Jackson Games, can't remember which)
regarding this?

I ask this because I have a similar project on the _way back_ burner -- a multi-payer
multi-system version of _Illuminati_.  I know this one is owned by SJGames, and hope
to somehow get thier blessing for use of the rules etc.  I understand from someone
that they own the same BBS software, maybe that's an angle I can work on :-)

About FBI (and waaaay off topic, so what :-)  They are still in biz as recently as
a year ago, and appeared to be expanding (the Illuminati games, for instance, have
thier own newsletter now).  If you have access to GEnie, you can email them as
address "FBI" (sheesh, how original).  The last FBICon in Scottsdale was swollen
at around 25 people, I understand (small in-joke).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,aus.computers.amiga,aus.computers
From: 10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (JIMMY FANG)
Subject: Re: HELP:  Connecting Amiga 1000 modem to Amiga 500? - THANKS
Summary: Thanks for all those who replied.
Keywords: Thank you all
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:57:15 GMT

Thanks for all the help from those who replied.
I bought a PC type male-female DB25 cable and I'm up and running.

Once again, thank you.

Jim
From: rkushner@sycom.mi.org (Ronald Kushner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: HST & SUpra: which is faster?
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.960
Date: 6 Sep 92 13:39:15 EST
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

In an article, paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz) writes:

>ISDN and totally digital phone systems are also looming near in the US, at
>least in some more urbanized areas.

Well, Ameritech has a policy to have ISDN installed in their top 50 CO's in 
every state they provide service in by 1993.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: gunnbr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Brian R Gunn)
Subject: Re: JRComm???
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:42:55 GMT


In article <3680@faatcrl.UUCP> jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:
>   I will post here when it is though.
> 
>   -jack-

Will you also snail-mail all registered users??  I missed the call for  
betatesters because I wasn't able to get on the net at that time--I hope I  
(as a registered user) will definately hear about the upgrade...

Brian
From: jvasher@cquest.mi.org (Joe Vasher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Any desire for a standardized "C" door interface?
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.95f
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:33:40 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

>	I have been working on coming up with a standardized way for "C"
>programmers to interface to BBS systems without having to resort to using
>ARexx, or some BBS-specific (such as C-Net, Paragon/StarNet, etc) format.
>Right now I have it as a link-library, but I could convert is to a shared
>library if people thought that was needed.

     This would be a definite improvement over doors as they exist now, but if 
you are going to standarize doors you should design them to use standard in 
and out. And create a port from the bbs with system info that these doors can 
access. This IMHO, would be the best way. As far as I can see Multi-player 
games would Best be suited to run in this manner, seeings in most cases you 
need to setup your own comunications between the programs. Just my 2 cents 
worth.

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From: jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: HST & SUpra: which is faster?
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:56:23 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Did rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca really type:
> jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes:
> >out the math that the HST is faster in unidirectional transfer than would
> 
>   HST is made by only a single company, USR.  V.32Bis modems can (and are)
> made by everyone.  This (To myself anyways) is more of an issue than 'todays 
> transfer speeds' (Considering that the V specs and the propriatary modems have
> been doing the Leap-Frog thing for a few years).

That's nice, Russel, that the *future* is more of an issue to you than
*yesterday's* transfer speeds.  While I agree that in the *future* V.FAST
will be on top of the world, *today* HST is faster in unidirectional
transfers than V.32bis.  And most of those V.32bis modems on the market
*today* are *not* upgradable to V.FAST.  The name of the game for the
NEC or filebone hub is the ole long distance call.  And the fact is that
HST modems transfer faster unidrectionally, and have for many years.

> >be an (currently non-existent) Amiga bi-directional mailer protocol that
> >talks to FrontDoor, D'Bridge, or BinkleyTerm.
> 
>   FrontDoor and D'Bridge don't support any bi-directional protocols, only
> BinkleyTerm and OPUS (Using JANUS) do.

I know for a fact that FrontDoor can, via an external program, support
bi-directional protocols.  I've not checked the status of D'Broke 1.38,
but I seem to recall external protocol options, or external program 
options at least.

>   BTW: There are about 3 different possible bi-directional protocols being 
> looked into for Welmat (A network mailer that runs on the Amiga) with Janus being
> just one of them.  A lower-overhead protocol will likely be more usefull
> for Welmat<-->Welmat sessions.

Dammit.  Get out of this echo and go work on Welmat!  I'm desperately
waiting for it to be "released" (beyond .47) so I can dump TrapDoor
which I feel is the D'Bridge of the Amiga (looks slick until you start
using it.)   :)   I've been lurking in WELMAT for well over a year
and still don't know enough about the betas to run the latest...
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