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From: brackney@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Larry J Brackney)
Subject: Re: Sega CD the early days...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:21:02 GMT

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
tehyang@sal-sun60.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang) writes:
>> Oops! Look like you forgot one important thing, Steve! What's going to be
>> doing the compression in a Turbo Duo? It has no internal CPU.
>
>Any upgrades to the OS can be installed with a system card.  I assume a
>new system card could include the appropriate decompression routines.

   I believe NEC has been working on compression algorithms for the Turbo
for several years now.  They just haven't been brought to market.  I remember
EGM's attitude about this development after a CES some years back - "Ho Hum..."
or something along those lines.  I found it amusing that they took so little
interest in a topic that will be increasingly important in the months (and
years) to come.

   On another (hopefully) related note - in the International section of the
new EGM, there is a blurb on the NEC 32 bit system.  Apparently NEC is
considering making this an upgrade for the PCEngine/Duo, in lieu of a System
4.0 card.  An official announcement was expected in late October.  Should
be interesting to see if anything comes of the rumor.

   All this technology talk is fine, but I'm just waiting for Time Cruise
to come out for the Duo.  It's slated for December, and I can hardly wait!
IF you liked Devil's Crush, you'll LOVE Time Cruise.  (Sorry Steve, I guess
you'll have to wait a bit longer for the ultimate video pin!  ;-) )

   - larry

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From: Dave_Durant@vos.stratus.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: [Genesis] Anybody want to review Steel Talons?
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:18:26 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: m113-12.eng.stratus.com

Saw it at EB over the weekend. Has anybody gotten a chance to play it? My 
rental place doesn't have it yet.. 

This has got to be one of the best coin-op games around - really hope that 
whoever did it (forgot to check) did a good job. 
-Dave 
 (ded@vos.stratus.com) 
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From: jason@tfs.com (Jason P. Venner)
Subject: Hints Please: Final Fight - Legend of Mystical Ninja - Darius Twins
Keywords: SNES
Organization: TRW Financial Systems, Berkeley, CA - 94704
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:18:09 GMT


I just picked up these games, and am looking for hints and secret codes etc.

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From: brackney@author.ecn.purdue.edu (Larry J Brackney)
Subject: Re: Recommended system? (SNES, Genesis, TG)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:07:45 GMT

In article <92324.124451U59985@uicvm.uic.edu> <U59985@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Since you mentioned you like RPG type games, then I would lean toward the Genes
>is. Probably only for the reason that the Genesis has a CD unit out and RPG gam
>es on CD could be really, really HUGE. Although, personally, I think some of th
>e companies developing games for Nintendo, on average, make better RPG's. Of co
>urse, that's only my opinion (no flames please).

   If you've been following the discussions involving the Sega CD vs. the
TurboDuo, you'll know my bias.  ;-)  Still, I thought I'd mention my current
favorite system.  The Duo is an integrated CPU/CDROM system that can be had
for $299 (or less w/ various rebate programs).  It comes packed w/ Ys 1&2,
an EXCELLENT RPG, and some other games.  (Gate of Thunder is terrific IMO.)
I think it's definitely worth considering.  There are some great games for
it.  (Lot's of RPGs too.)

   - larry

 
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From: rose@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Nintendo Games wanted
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:58:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: kuhub.1992Nov18.095814.44910
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I have a friend who is interested in buying the following Nintendo games:
	Big Foot
	American Gladiators
If you have either or both of these that you would like to sell please
call or send e-mail to:
	Rose@ukanvm.cc.ukans.edu   (913-864-0455)	
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From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Sega - Best Games
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 03:16:36 GMT
Organization: What Org?
Distribution: usa

In article <85y=02SL2bF701@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> mrm70@diag.amdahl.com (Mike McAllister) writes:
>.. the best of any type of games ...

	You don't want to miss WarSong (I'm not sure you'll like
	Phantasy Star 2 & 3).
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From: gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: GAME BYTES #7 SHIPS!
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:50:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Nov18.215008.17590
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <rdippold.722027933@qualcom> rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>
>Game Bytes also offers a text-only version, available wherever the
>graphics version is available.  I forget exactly what issue they
>started this practice, but I believe it was issue 4 or so.  Since the
>console reviews don't have any screen shots anyhow, it shouldn't
>matter that the pictures aren't included.  It should be on
>wuarchive.wustl.edu as gb07-txt.zip under pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS.

Yeah, they do, and I get it, but it is not really text only. Its a specially
formatted file that they use with their viewer. I can extract the text out
of the file (and do), but I see no reason that their text only version
shouldn't be just that, TEXT only.

Gary

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From: hm002b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (hasit mehta)
Subject: Re: Joe Montana For Sega CD
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:37:16 GMT

In article <1e9vrbINNln4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ai029@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nick Poulos) writes:
>
>
>Anyone know when this or any other sports titles will be released
>for the Sega CD?
>
>
> 
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I called Sega about the JM CD game and it seems like it will be released
BEFORE next year! So hopefully we should see it in a month or two. There is
a screen shot of the game on the back of the SEGA-CD box, it looks great! I
have no idea what other SEGA CD sports games will be released I hope a lot
will be since they are my favorite games!
hasit
From: fongj@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca ( chun kwai jay  fong)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Electronic Arts
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:24:37 GMT
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal

In article <Bxzp0J.4zn@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130r92d@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Mark R Miller) writes:
>
>Anybody ever call EA direct and order a game from them?
>
>Just wondering about how long it takes because I ordered John Madden '93 a week
>ago and it has not come yet!
>
>B


Hi there B

  I think you'd better be prepared to wait a little bit longer than 1 week
for mail order _grin_

  Have patience!
From: roger@wpi.WPI.EDU (Roger Donahue)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: TurboExpress questions
Date: 21 Nov 1992 00:35:44 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

 I just bought a TurboExpress, and after an hour or so of use I noticed 2 spots
 on the screen where the color never changed.  I guess they're called "frozen
 pixels". I exchanged it, and the new one has 1 problem spot.

 I have a couple of questions:

1. Is it likely that the screen will develop more of these problem spots?

2. Is this a common problem? Right now my feeling is that if I exchange this
   one I have no reason to believe the next would be any better.

I know I'm being sort of fussy, since the spot isn't THAT big, but it's
annoying to spend $200 on it, and find something wrong.

On an unrelated note, can anyone recommend games I should NOT get for the TE,
because of problems with text being too small ?

Thanks

Roger Donahue (roger@wpi.wpi.edu)
From: johnsonchris@bvc.edu (Crispy Critter)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: SNES- Genie?
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:45:20 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

I popped into the local Wal-Mart today to check out if they had any of the 
new hot SNES games (which they didn't, naturally) and I saw, if my eyes 
were not decieving me, about ten SNES Game Genies.   I knew they were going 
to make one, but they sure did sneak it onto the market without much press. 
Anyone know what they are like, how useful they are, etc..
 
Thanks,
--CLJ
From: victor@ucme.Berkeley.EDU (Victor Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: SFII
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:43:46 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley

In article <1ehoumINN40m@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jal15@po.CWRU.Edu (Jason A. Lyons) writes:
>
>Are there any SFII gifs out there??
>
>FTP sites, network, anything??
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanx.
>
>..........................Jay.....................................


If any information please post out, I think many people would like to have it.

Andy
From: v089l3s3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jeremy B Horwitz)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: SEGA CD: Full Review [Horwitz]
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:35:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1epi7dINN9hm@sal-sun64.usc.edu>, tehyang@sal-sun64.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang) writes...
>In article <Bxzysz.9w6@acsu.buffalo.edu> v089l3s3@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jeremy B Horwitz) writes:
>>release them at a lower price on CD. While these games could have dramatically 
>>increased sales of both the Japanese and American systems, Sega has decided 
>>against an obviously reasonable move. Why? I can think of two reasons: Either 
> 
>I think that Sega is in a difficult situation regarding to which system to 
>release the popular games on. If they release the games on Mega-CD, the people
>who don't have Sega-CD will either be left out or be forced to buy one. This 
>may increase Sega-CD sales but it may also make a lot of people angry. i.e."why
>should I spend 2XX dollars just to be able to play that game? I already own a
>Genesis!"

Which then leaves us in the following predicament... "Why should I spend $299
dollars to buy a Sega-CD when they do all the same games on cartridge?"
I don't mind if they release games simultaneously on cart and CD, but the
games had better be a hell of a lot better on CD... none of that Earnest
Evans, Sol-Feace, etc. syndrome.

>>title should have been replaced by its newer sequel. Sega earns a failing grade 
>>for giving kids a Christmas present which comes free with "a $350 value", the
>>same Christmas presents they got last year and the year before.
>>
> 
>I wonder why no one is griping about TTI including games like Y's, Bonk, and
>Ninja Spirit in the Duo package? All of these games are old and most Turbo
>owners would have one or more of these games already. Instead everyone is
>saying how Sega has included a bunch of "old" games in their Sega CD 
>package. The Sega CD includes 2 new games: Sherlock Holmes and Sol-Feace, and
>the Duo only comes with one: Gates of Thunder. It could be that most Duo
>buyers are not previous TG-16 owners and thus would not own any of the old
>games but most Sega CD buyers already own Genesis systems. Gee, I just 
>answered my own question! :)

Sol-Feace is not a new game. It's been out for almost a year in the US, a
full year on CD in Japan. I do think you answered your question, but realize
which games TTI gave people - the undisputed best of the best for the TG-16.
Gate of Thunder is one of TTI's strongest games (finally) for the Super CD.
Sega released games which no one would have bought otherwise.
> 
>-Teh Kao
[ -> Jer Horwitz ] [INTERnet Game Consultant]
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From: Rick.Kellar@f251.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Rick Kellar)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Video Game Dealers
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:11:07

Can anyone give me a number or company name where dealers can purchase 
video games for the Nitendo, Lynx and Sega in the U.S. I am tinkering with 
the idea of starting a business in Australia so any leads would be 
appreciated.

Regards, Rick.


 * Origin:  THE FORBIDDEN PLANET BBS (61-3-464-1479) V.32 MNP  (3:633/251)
From: criess@mrj.com (Chuck Riess)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: GameBoy and Carts For Sale
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:17:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: mrj.9211171556.AA17818
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Hello,

I have the following games and GameBoy for sale:

The games come with manuals but NOT with cardboard boxes.

                      Asking       

Super Mario World        $10     
Castlevania Adventure    $10  
Tennis                   $10 
Golf                     $10


GameBoy (no box)         $50
                        ----
                         $90

w/ Testris, earphones, 
cable link, and a light boy (no box)

Chuck Riess
(criess@turtle.mrj.com)
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Flight Simulator
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:29:54 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1epaonINN98p@sal-sun64.usc.edu> tehyang@sal-sun64.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang) writes:
>In article <1ep8i1INNp0s@athena.sdsu.edu> guest@voyager3.sdsu.edu (Guest User) writes:
>>For us netters to give away our games to you for free, right?
>
>This article gets my vote for the funniest I have ever seen. 

	Also it's asking it from guest@...

	BTW, Teh Kao, can you post more about Dark Waizard?
	Your comment that it's simillar to M of M stimulates me.
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From: efk@kepler.unh.edu (Edward F Keisling)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: SEGA CD review
Date: 13 Nov 1992 01:53:23 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: all
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu
Summary: i like it


	ok, my friend just bought the sega cd and these are my 
	unbiased opinions :)  (no flames please)

	first, it will be hard for someone i suppose to review this thing
	unbiased because they just spent $299 on the machine and
	would look like a fool if they gave it a bad review.
	i suppose they could return it, but i think there has 
	been enough of _that_ related discussion....

	the console is pretty cool looking, although i think the 
	lights on the front of the console are a bit cheesy looking.
	i defintely think that there should be some way to at least 
	play the cd's straight from the console.  (there is not)
	i could not see myself playing cd's from this just because it
	isn't that convenient.

	the sega classic games that are included are just that --- 
	they are carts that have been downloaded onto the cd.  
	they are modified in the slightest way (new music and digitized
	sounds here and there) but YOU SHOULD NOT expect them to 
	be any different from the cart.  they are no better -- just more of 
	the same.  they are not _CD_ games, and should not be viewed
	as such.

	the horizontal shooter included ( i forget the name) is very
	fun -- it has a really neat CD driven intr with great narration.
	there are a few typos that should never have made it through --
	before is spelled befor and there is at least one other spelling
	mistake that is pretty obvious.  there is a catchy soundtrack
	that plays though the game.  however, this game also could have
	been done on the cart (minus the speech and soundtrack)

	sherlock holmes is a very complicated game that has loads of
	live action video.  i am sure there are reviews of this before,
	as it appears to be the same as the one for T.G.  no surprises
	here, but it appears to be a great game for those detective
	types.

	the two included music cd's are nothing special at all -- the
	graphics are neat to watch once or twice through but that is
	all -- the graphics are also less than impressive on these too.

	IMHO, the sega cd should be required to be played through a 
	stereo.  the sound is amazing!!!!!  i also think that they
	should have included a game that would blow us away -- i 
	did not feel any included did this.  thus i think it will
	be up to the supporting software whether this thing is going
	to make it or not.

	in conclusion,
	there is a GREAT potential here -- i hope they don't blow it!!! :)

	i will wait for a while before i make such a hefty investment!!!!



________________________________________________________________________________
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  University of New Hampshire			you are doing." 
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From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: Re: Turbo CD upgrade
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:05:23 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A735603F07015C5D@joe.gsfc.nasa.gov>
X-Xxdate: Sun, 22 Nov 92 21:05:19 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

In article <1eja0vINNe0g@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> Brett Barksdale,
brett@oce.orst.edu writes:
>on the CD. THAT's taking advantage of the media. What's the point of placing
music
>that can be done off a cartridge and placing it on a CD? 

Because it can't! -- length of cuts is the issue here.  Shadow of the Beast,
for example, has music pieces that are in excess of 6 minutes long.  While a
couple tracks are a bit repetitive anyway, most use that length to give the
music variety so it doesn't get annoying.  How effective is this?  Well,
before my Duo I absolutely hated ALL video game music I've ever heard because
it was so repetitive (10 second, or so, repeated sequences -- ughh!).  I
actually enjoy Shadow of the Beast more because of its music, which is really
pretty stunning to me.  I can't imagine playing it without that music now.

The SNES is still limited in sequence length (and thus the music is very
repetitive) and besides that, the sound quality of the SNES sound is still
significantly worse then CD (presuming you've got your system hooked up to
your stereo -- if you use your TVs speakers the sound quality difference is
less significant.  But why would you get a CD system and NOT hook it up to a
stereo???)  The other big difference is that all that music does not take up
any working space.  Thus, part of what you pay for in a cart is space wasted
on music.  Recording music and stamping it onto a CD is trivial and you've
already got plenty of space to work with -- adding good music doesn't add as
much to the cost (only the cost of making it good which you have with non-CD
also.)  Since it costs less to add good, non-repetive music, game
manufacturers are more likely to do it.  Now, not all CD music is good --
Splash Lake, for example, has really irritating music which is poorly handled
(if you die the music starts over from the beginning.  "One...more...time!" as
Lawrence Welk might have said!), but so far I'm impressed.

Steve
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jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov
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From: sjl@TEFS1.acd.com (Scot Leibacher)
Subject: TG-16 DRAGONS SPIRIT questions
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:37:38 GMT

All,
       I have been playing DRAGON'S SPIRIT the last few days and have a 
question. I can make it to the final boss (the Genii type guy who has a 
wand or something in his hand). I have not been successfull at battling 
this guy. In fact, I am not even sure that I am inducing any damage since
I cannot get him to flash (which usually indicates a hit). Can anyone lend
some strategy hints, etc. on how to defeat this guy? 

     I do know about the unlimited continue code, but is there a level 
select? It takes about 20 minutes to get to the last boss. Any help with
either question would be appreciated. Thanks,

    -Scot L.


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From: ostrouch@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com
Subject: TURBO-DUO/ $30 OFF PROMATION
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:28:19 GMT

Hi all ye video netters........& tg-16 junkies....
 
Has anyone heard of a sales promotion from tti for 30 bucks off the duo?
I called several weeks ago (tti) when i got the mailing about sending in your
existing tg-16 for 50 bucks off a duo, and said this is hard to do when you
want to make the duo a present, and some gal told  me that there is going to be
a 30 dollar off promotion. Elec boutique and babages up here has not heard of
it..... How about you netters??????     also what is the phone no for tti
i had it but cant find it!!!!!!!!!!
 Any input much appreciated.... MIKE O~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
Subject: I've almost got stereo on my SNES.
Date: 24 Nov 1992 03:39:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu



Just for the hell of it,I experimented with a theory on my snes multi port.

I hooked two alligator clips,one to pins 11 and 12 and the other to to 5 and 6.

Since 11 and 12 are the two stereo channels mixed ,it makes for mono type
stereo.
Hey,it's not surround,YET,but it will be once i get hold of Radio electronics,

yes i did say SURROUND SOUND.

What do you think L+R,l-R means,
one of the is the rear channel.

As I was saying,ith the clips,i diced an old y connector connected to the inputs
of my stereo aux input,and hooked the lr clip with a piece of wire to the 
+ side and te ground pins to the ground and vala,stereo.

I'll tell you if you have super star wars,this is a must,the bass on this game
is incredible,it shakes the floor!
Any questions,leave mail.
Rob
Newsgroups: rec.games.video
From: rxr8697@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Help... Voltage problems...
Reply-To: rxr8697@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:39:28 GMT




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