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From: sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Cermony.
Date: 28 Jul 1992 13:56:47 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <820@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
|> murty@ecf.toronto.edu (MURTY Hema Sandhyarani) writes:
|> : 
|> : 	
|> : 	If the NBC commentator 
|> 
|>      (some stuff deleted)
|> : 	 - what was the guy's name?
|> 
|> Bob Castner. Yes, we Indians should demand an apology from
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Bob COSTAS.

|> ---Sreehari.

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these opinions, he deserves them.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: raghavan@wk21.nas.nasa.gov (Venkatraman Raghavan)
Subject: Tennis anyone? (was Re: The olympics and Bob costas)
Organization: NAS
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 22:56:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.135409.2349@cs.umn.edu> 
prabhak@cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:

>(Venkatraman Raghavan) writes:
>>Many years ago, it was McEnroe who was complaining that Ramesh
>>Krishnan serves at 10 mph. If playing a slow game is a weakness 
>>why do these 'great players' get frustrated by that?
>>
>
>Simple. It is no fun playing with someone who chops the ball
>and hits it like a grandma. Perhaps the only asset Krishnan
>has is his instincts for placing the ball. If he didn't even
>have that he would lose to Women's 2000.

True. It may be no fun.  But this is no Saturday morning fun tennis.
These people are playing to win. They ought to shut their mouths
and play.

This is like The Dream Team (aargh!) saying that Angola made
them suffer. (Folks, just an analogy, they didn't say it.)

>Getting 'frustrated' is not equivalent to 'not assured of 
>winning'. Ramesh never gave anyone scares.
>
>Satya Prabhakar

-raghavan, v.
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@lambada.oit.unc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Apology
Date: 29 Jul 1992 12:44:25 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I would like to apologize for my gratuitous remarks
re: rgopu's letter-writing campaign to the network(s)
for Bob Costas's remarks on the Olympics opening
ceremony (in case you didn't see it: it was titled
Olympics, India, world etc.) My article had not an
iota of constructive thought and I should have 
simply discarded it.  My apologies to all others I
similarly offended in the same article.

I guess I fell for the usual ploy of demeaning an
idiotic behaviour (in this case of NBC) instead of 
considering the negative effect their actions could 
have. By this simple device of reducing their 
credibility in my eyes, I was being stupidly cynical. 
Your method, although pitifully inadequate (that is 
not intended as an insult by any means) is infinitely 
better.

Regards,
Sthan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rachada@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ramakrishna Chada)
Subject: Re: Olympics Opening Ceremony
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:55:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa

In article <1992Jul27.165310.29984@tamsun.tamu.edu> rgopu@cs.tamu.edu (Rangarathnam Gopu) writes:
>	Instead of just posting articles on s.c.i and just discussing
>	among ourselves the pathetic ignorance of India in this 
>	country, shouldn't we do something about it? Like write to 
>	NBC maybe? And send a list of the artificial turfs in India
>	to them.
>
>		I'll put my money where my mouth is. I'll post copies
>	of future letters that I write to mags, papers etc. Hope that
>	inspires some others to take similar action. For starters,
>	I'll shortly post a copy of the letter I am sending to NBC
>	on this very subject. 

I will follow soot( :-) I am a Dan Quayle fan)
Could you also please post the address to which to mail to.

 
>	Gopu
>	rgopu@cs.tamu.edu
>	Texas A&M University
>
>--
>email: rgopu@cs.tamu.edu
>

Thanks

Ramakrishna
From: axs2776@usl.edu (Subramanyam Arunkumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: H-1 TO GREEN CARD.
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:17:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana

In article <76640@ut-emx.uucp> supreet@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Supreet Singh) writes:
>
>Hi netters !
>Can anybody please explain me the steps reqd. to get the green card for an h-1 visa holder ? I need to know which farms are reqd. to be filled and the related departments to be contacted. This ^^^^^^^^^^ inquiry is for friend who is on H-1 visa for last 2 years and thus{di{7Mm{n't have labor certiw{fication as is reqd. under new laws.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>-Supreet Singh

Mr. Singh,

Your friend does not require any 'FARMS' to get a green-card !!
He needs to fill up a couple of forms before turning them in.
Contact the nearest INS office to get those forms, the instructions
will be given to him by an immigration officer.

Arun
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From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: US National Debt
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:20:35 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <1992Jul23.211324.25418@news2.cis.umn.edu> crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:

>What is this absolute waste of bandwidth doing on SCI?  It has no relevance
>nor interest to India, unless you are applying for American foreign aid.
>Furthermore it is devoid of educational value, unlike the discussions of
>lentiviruses and the diseases they cause.

>Please keep this rubbish to yourself, or alt.politics.

Despite not having the credentials to post on s.c.i (e.g. drycleaned
dhoti, scalp lavishly anointed with perfumed hair oil) I think that Mr.
Crick has a valid point. Please, dear countrymen, restrict yourself to
RELEVANT postings. 

We built the Taj Mahal! We have many fine temples and monuments! 
Our missiles are flying faster and higher than ever! Our Gujju jokes
are second to none! 

George

P.S. Will someone please post the lyrics to vande mataram! 

N.B. There is a baseless rumour circulating to the effect that Korean
khadi is superior to our homespun. This is a baseless rumour and
should not be believed.
From: RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: 13-year-old earns degree
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:31:49 GMT
 <1992Jul15.190351.1858@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK>,<seOu=t_00WBMQ8D3FH@andrew.cmu.edu>
 <1992Jul21.232647.24914@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Jul21.232647.24914@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, bkv2673@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
(Platy aLoid) says:
>
>>In article <seOu=t_00WBMQ8D3FH@andrew.cmu.edu>,
>>(Pravin Devineni Ratnam) writes:
>>I'd be more impressed if the guy had sex at the age of 7.
>
>
>        Mr. Devineni,
>
>        We're talking here about a child prodigy and not about
>        how early a guy can lose his innocence and unspoilt
>        view of the world.
>
>        Your remark is a sure sign of your decadence in taste,
>        timing, and judgement. I think I make my point and don't
>        want to wax profane further.
>
>        Good day!
>
It is more a symptom of a disease which some smart people with monstrous egos
 have. This disease manifests in the unfailing attempt to bring everyone down t
o their level, pretty low and the belief in spite of evidence to the contrary
that theree is NONE SMARTER THAN themselves. Thus these foolish remarks about
 an extraordinary 13 year old by a very ordinary 20+ year old.

 rajagopalan
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From: melindac@thedarktower.Corp.Sun.COM (Ugga de Boogidie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian-indian,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Family values and the West.
Keywords: Marriage, Family, Industrial, West.
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:07:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: thedarktower.corp.sun.com


	c60a-zg@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Guerrero-LabA) :
	> Yes, your comment on family values is true.  
	> The Family and Family values are indeed declining, esp. in 
	> the west.  In fact, many movements are NOT CONDUCIVE to 
	> strong families.  
	> We need to strengthen our families strongly.
	> Personally, it becomes hard when a family-oriented person in 
	> a family oriented culture goes to the West, and finds that 
	> the same values in the family are not there.  There SEEMS to 
	> be more emphasis on the individual rather than the group, 
	> society, or family.
	> This may be food for flames, but who knows...

With all this talk about "family values," anybody care to list what
they are exactly??

I get the feeling that the much-hyped family values are 1950's family
values which have not changed to address the 1990's family.

	Melinda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: abharad@bgsu.edu (STING)
Subject: INFOMATION ABOUT WISCONSIN UNIV
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:10:05 GMT

hi,
   some i know is coming to University of Wisconsin at Milwalkee in 92 fall .
   I would appreciate it if someone could send me information about the 
 following :(the person is married an has a daughter(3 yrs))
     1) Rent for a small apartment .
     2) Possiblity of his spouse getting a part time job(on or off campus) .
     3) How much will insurance cost for the whole family .
     4) Cost of children's education .
     5) How much is the general cost of living .

   Thank you in advance .
                         abhi.

e-mail :abharad@andy.bgsu.edu
    
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: me@comstore.uark.edu (My Account)
Subject: Re: Aditi, Arindam and me.
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:57:59 GMT
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In article <1992Jul28.015913.19803@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU  
(Arindam Ghosh) writes:
> >sake, if you would have taken the time to read all my comments  
> >written to Arindam, you would have found that in most of the cases, I  
> >disagreed with Arindam and my judgement about Arindam is 'another  
> >passionate, illogical, psedo-intellectual person' like YOU.
> > --- Aditi Sen.
> >
> Deb, Aditi's evaluation is correct, except the "pseudo" part of it.
> We are passionate and illogical. However, if anybody can show me 
> a person who has changed the course of histry with cold reason and
> logic I will be grateful.
> 
> 
> >
> > Concerning Arindam Ghosh, I feel that he is basically honest, but, he  
has too
> >much of religious dosage. He is NOT what you describe. The guy can  
write very
> >good poetry, and has quite good command. He believes religion (his  
Bahai faith)
> >is a means to ending ALL the problems in the world. He would do good if  
he joins
> >the monastery or some kind of organization that engages in such work.  
If I have
> >evaluated him correctly: ARINDAM GHOSH SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM POLITICS.
> >
> > - regards,
> Hmm; your evaluation about me seems correct also, except the "good" part  
of
> the poetry. Two poems in a year cannot a good poet make. I have no  
intentions
> to join in politics; I will leave it to you. Monastery is what I am  
joining.
> However, our monastery is the world and its people. I will gladly leave  
the
> politics to you.
> Arindam


Arindam,
Your comments about our evalution of you helped me to understand you even  
better. Be passionate, but don't be illogical. Because thats when one gets  
messed up and nothing really happens. Passion is the warmth of a  
character. But logic is the intelligence. Proper combination of both can  
do wonders. As for your religious faith, I believe in complete individual  
freedom. So, I have no comment about your belief. Good Luck in your  
mission whatever that might be. --- Aditi Sen
From: sankar@hal.COM (Sankar Bandy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking For...
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:57:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: quality.hal.com

M.N.B. Systems, a Computer Consultancy firm based in South Laguna, CA.
requires people with the following skills:

1) IBM, CICS, PACBASE - 6 positions, six months(extendible) project.

2) UNIX kernel, c - 1 position immediate. Long term project.

	People with VISA situations would also be considered. For details
	plesae e-mail to me giving contact no. at the following:

	sankar@hal.com

	or call me at (408)-379-7000-x1162
From: kaushik@dvorak.amd.com (Kaushik Chhotani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: H1 visa from Matamoros, Mexico
Keywords: H1 visa, Mexico
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:32:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

Hi Fellownetters,
		I know this is a frequently asked question but I have to post it
today for the sake of a friend of mine who is going down to Matamoros, Mexico to
get his multiple entry H-1 visa.
		I would really appreciate it if you could please let me know 
what documents need to be taken and what he needs to do to enter Mexico and 
reenter the US safely without mishap.

		Thank you in advance for your replies and patience.
		Kaushik Chhotani



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From: balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Are we an intolerant people?
Keywords: India, Youth, Intolerance.
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:08:08 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering


 Read the article about youth crimes in India which appeared in
the latest issue of India Today ....

PB
From: pr0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Pravin Devineni Ratnam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Ridiculous Health Insurance Policy
Date: 20 Jul 92 21:28:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.ceOu2_O00WBMM8DDsV
Organization: Senior, IM - MCS/CIT Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



I have been a strong advocate of doing away with tuition waivers for
most Indian students and replace them with generous loans. However, I
find it really unjust on the universities' part to force the students to
pay for the previous years of their stay in the U.S.  Making them pay so
much money is ridiculous, especially when you have to pay for years you
were not covered for.

However, the university is justified a bit in making you go for a
comprehensive insurance plan since there is already a big burden on the
state to support uninsured foreigners. The only problem is that Penn
State seems to have gone off the deep end in it insurance requirements.
From: sudhakar@informix.com (Sudhakar Kaki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Hi, How R U Doin'
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:54:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: sudhakar@xanadu

Hi netters,
	
	Thanks in advance for seeing me in this Pushpak Viman.
	O'sly, fiddling with Pnews at first gear. 

	- Sudhakar.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Reply to Ms.Aditi Sen
Keywords: Motherly advice.
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:54:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

This is a reply to Lady Aditi Sen. If anyone wants to know what SUC stands
for, I don't know the full form for the same. (But, between friends I have
coined an expansion for SUC, and, if you are curious I can let you know only
thru' personal e-mail. I shall not post it on the SCI, and, will not advocate
such efforts - as it is very derogatory for staunch feminists, but NOT obscene.)

 - deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)
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Deb, 

First of all, I didnot fake e-mail address. I am currently operating  
from a demo-account in the University Computer Store. So, here I  
don't have my own account. From Fall, I will have my own. 

*I stand corrected on this petty issue.*

Second, your engineering approach, as I have all along explained, is  
against my philosophy. I don't think this discussion is going  
anywhere. Let's all do what we can do individually. 

*You definitely have a right to your philosophy, but, what works is what works.
My philosophy is to make things work. Probably this is different from yours.*

I asked you to calm down because you are acting like a teenager.      
( May be you are!) Try to develop your argument in a logical way, it  
will help the discussion. Just harping on the same point is not going  
to do any good. You become very defensive whenever you are  
challenged. Have confidence in your belief and logic.

-- Aditi Sen. 

*(1) This `calming' down buisness is just `motherly'. I resent this.

 (2) My logic is to examine the problem carefully and adopt correct
     proceedures in eliminating the problem once for all. I DO NOT 
     hypothesize/ read novels, books before thinking what to solve.
     (If this appears to make me defensive, then so be it ! I won't 
      change my stand. )

 (3) Since I have confidence in what I do, I defend them `vigorously'.*

*- deb chatterjee
(a good samaritan)*

 P.S: Are u' from Calcutta ? If so, then were pally with SUC party ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: Communications Program in USCLA
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:00:49 GMT

In article <l78s1rINNld@skat.usc.edu> cupadhya@skat.usc.edu (Chintan Upadhyay) writes:
>Or maybe he is suffering from the Freudian subconscious feelings of repression that he didn't go to USC !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You must be kidding! For what? To get killed either by the riots or by the
earthquake?

Njan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nnk@surya.cs.wayne.edu ()
Subject: Re: My Father Has Moved On and We Miss HIM terribly
Originator: nnk@surya.cs.wayne.edu
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:41:15 GMT


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: MEN of EASTERN origin
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:19:46 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.140951@daffy.mc.ti.com> a726226@daffy.mc.ti.com (savithri) writes:

YACD!

Njan
From: x92nath@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Hinduism and Equality ?
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:35:17 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hi readers,
	I have read many replies that others do differentiate, this does
not mean that we are justified.  Basic question is that why don't we
follow our religion which teaches us love for humans ?
	Are we not knowing what our religion teaches us or we don't care
for this ?
	Prehaps there is differnence in Hindu religion and Hindu culture.
Can we go for a society with no caste and creed and all open hearted ?
Could be after 40-50 years.
Thanks.
Sam.
From: bala@research.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: SC Orders State To Halt Temple Construction
Keywords: Ayodhya Hey Ram
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:28:54 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


apnews reports:
	   NEW DELHI, India (AP) - India's Supreme Court ordered a northern
state on Wednesday to stop militant Hindus from constructing a
temple within yards of a 16th century Muslim mosque, news reports
said.
	   The order to the government of Uttar Pradesh came in the midst
of unrest over plans by some Hindus to replace the Babri mosque
with a temple to honor Ram, one of the chief gods in the Hindu
pantheon.
	   On Monday, six people were killed when Hindus and Muslims
clashed in two cities in the south and west. About 1,000 people
were killed in violence related to the planned temple in 1990.
	   In their ruling Wednesday, Judges M.N. Venkatachallaiah and G.N.
Ray called for an ``unconditional stoppage'' of the temple's
construction, Press Trust of India news agency said.
	   A fundamentalist Hindu group, the World Hindu Council, began
building the temple in the Hindu holy town of Ayodhya on July 9
despite a state court order forbidding excavation or construction
around the mosque.
	   The militants say a Muslim conqueror razed an earlier Hindu
temple to build the mosque, which they say is on the site where Ram
was born.
	   The temple's design calls for the mosque's destruction.
	   The World Hindu Council is allied with the Indian People's
Party, which governs Uttar Pradesh and won power on a platform
promising to build the temple.
	   The judges said they would wait until Thursday for the state to
comply with the state court's order. They said they then would take
up a request by K.K. Venugopal, a lawyer for the state government,
to decide whether it is legitimate for Hindus to build the temple
near the mosque.
	   The situation in Ayodhya is ``edging dangerously to one of
flouting the constitution,'' which guarantees protection to all
religions, Press Trust quoted Venkatachallaiah as saying.
	   The high court had received several petitions by citizens asking
that construction be halted.
	   In Ayodhya, 325 miles east of New Delhi, construction continued
Wednesday despite reports that 600 additional federal soldiers were
heading toward the city, Press Trust said. Federal paramilitary
police were sent Sunday to reinforce police guarding the mosque.
	   ``We are ready to face bullets,'' a spokesman for the World
Hindu Council told Press Trust. He said hundreds of temple builders
would picket to protect the site from a possible government
takeover.
	   About 82 percent of India's 844 million people are Hindus and 12
percent are Muslims.
From: zpvy0a@hou.amoco.com (Prasad Yalamanchi WWNV x4269 9.125)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Family values, premarital sex, etc.
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:03:59 GMT
Reply-To: zpvy0a@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco

nagappa@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>	
>	Although the statistics on single parents on the US is 
>startlingly high (about 50% black babies and 25% white babies are born to
>sinle mothers), it does *not* mean that there is a collapse of family values
>and it would be unfair to write-off an entire society because of this.

Foremost of the family values is to retain and nurture the family.  If the man skids off and women rather it be that, its not a family anymore and if its ubiquitous as 
the figures suggest .... that's COLLAPSE to me!  What values are missing is ofcourse
a whole different thing. 

Opinions are personal anyway!!

Prasad