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From: dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892)
Subject: Re: Engineers
Organization: NASA GSFC CDP VLBI
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:40:54 GMT

In article <92105.185908JMM151@psuvm.psu.edu> JMM151@psuvm.psu.edu (Jennifer Mina) writes:
>Peeve: Engineers -- Need I say more?
>
Sure, my guess is the people you're really pissed at are managers.  Like the
one at GM that decided cars should be designed by industrial engineers,
rather than mechanical engineers.
>
Peeve: Reporters

I read an article about some meeting of engineers in which the dipstick
reporter wrote something to the effect that "Surprisingly, many of the
engineers expressed dissatisfaction with corporate management."

It's real hard for me to imagine anyone so ignorant of the realities of
the workplace that they would be surprised at something like that!

(I suppose all reprters think that all publishers are doing a real good job!)
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: BadLanguaging: noun --> adjective --> noun
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:22:17 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

Sonja Kueppers <SEK@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

] Peeve:  People who take a perfectly good noun, add an ending to make
] it into an adjective, and then add *another* ending to make it back into
] a noun again.


Oh I know what YOU MEAN!!!!!

worse Still is the Horrible fact that some machines
out there will not handle a perfectly legitimate
word with more than 256 characters in it!!!!!


ciao
drieux

next week "why writing politically correct words is so 
		much more fun than flossing with BarbWire
			and Gargling Gasoline while smoking a
				Used Presidental Candidate Under
					The Mental Anguish that The 
						J.Danforth could Really
							be our Next Maggie T."


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From: dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Superfluous andRedundant Debate
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:52:55 GMT
Organization: NASA GSFC CDP VLBI

In article <1992Apr15.204734.772@umbc3.umbc.edu> potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC)) writes:
>In article <11075@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
>>Peeve: When cats sit and stare, nothing is going on up there.
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>peeve: unrealistic expectations. what did you expect from a creature with
>	a brain the size of a matchbox?
>
>-l "personally, getting fed and lying in the sun sounds like a perfect
>	deal to me. what's to think about?" p
>
>
>-- 
>-lp **************************************************************************
>* What do you tell forever's children when it's their turn to hurt and heal? *
>* What ever spins the grim tornado can also turn a potler's wheel.           *
                                                       ^
>************************************************************** --Bill Danoff *

Well, when people do this it's called meditation.  Why should cats be any
different?
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                                  -- Leonard Q. Barnes
From: russ@bbx.basis.com (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: April 9 (d. all of the above)
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:15:01 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Albuquerque NM

In article <20177@castle.ed.ac.uk> egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page) writes:
>(smiley inserted because boys seem to be a bit sensitive about
>references to their opti/pessimism when it comes to knob-size)
>
>Babs (all I can say is thank God I haven't got one to be paranoid about)

OK, Babs, that does it.  I'm calling your ObGyn and telling him to
drop the speculum in the freezer and to cool the stirrups...

-- 
Russ Kepler, Basis International Ltd. russ@bbx.basis.com  phone: 505-345-5232
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Quayle, bullies, 'n things (was Re: Lemon Gin, Rape)
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:05:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: igor.1992Apr7.020533.1474
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, San Francisco

In article <ku1d2dINNpu@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
(Tricky Gnosis) writes:

>And I couldn't help noticing that this is done " to see if the person has
>done anything to encourage the bullying."  Yeah, right -- it's all the
>victim's fault.  Of course, this provides yet another excuse to avoid 
>addressing the problem at its source with a (hopefully violent) confron-
>tation.  Massive thermonuclear retaliation, that's the ticket.

While I abhor violence, I can't help thinking that punching a bully in
the nose is more time efficient than several hours of counseling...

   don
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From: rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon)
Subject: SNAGs in drag (was Re: something about Kafka)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 18:54:23 GMT
Organization: Netcom - SF Bay, Cal Northifornia 
Followup-To: alt.peeves 


Peeve: SNAGs who haven't come to terms with their new selves.

We've seen evidence recently of an obviously Sensitive New-Age Guy fighting
a one-handed battle with his own hard-won sensitivity.  This behavior
manifests as obviously-parodic flamage aimed at otherwise undeserving
targets, and in a fixation (not to say obsession) with pseudo-aggressive
sexual posturing.  The SNAG, embarrassed at his own depth of compassion
and keen insight, seems to be saying, "Look at how crude and insulting I
am!  Nobody this arrogant, this overbearingly obnoxious could be
Sensitive!", but, of course, the truth is painfully obvious to the 
readership.

What we have here is a textbook case of a repressed lesbian persona
crying out for attention and support.

This is the time for Peevetown to take care of its own.  Let us show
this friend of ours that we, too, can be caring, compassionate souls.
It's OK to be Sensitive.  Butch *can* be beautiful, and nobody should
tell you different, no matter what their psychopathological preference.

Stop fighting with that double-clutching, Cummins turbo diesel golem at
the core of your being; come on out, you're among friends.  As my Old
Uncle Maledictus was fond of saying, "If you can't trust a gang of
backstabbing, hypocritical thugs to treat you like a human being,
you're in pretty deep shit, pal."

-- 
Rick Gordon       |  "A musicologist is a person who can read music 
rickg@netcom.com  |   but can't hear it." -- Sir T. Beecham
From: egeo17@castle.ed.ac.uk (M L Broadgate)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Where'd he get his name?
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:37:17 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <20295@castle.ed.ac.uk> egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:

>mega!peeve - I finished my thesis
>
Does this make you the first person in geo-history to finish *early*??


>peeve - I still have to defend it
serves you right!
(nb of course I'm just jealous! - I have all that ahead of me unless
someone offers me a job first <---- unlikely occurrence - in fact so
unlikely as to be hardly worth bothering to mention)

>megapeeve - then I'm unemployed
Well if you really have finished early at least you won't have to go on 
the dole whilst you're looking for a job (initially anyway) - strikes me
being on the dole is a full time job in itelf - no time for applying for
jobs when you have all those offices dotted all over the city to journey
between in order to get slightly more than nothing...

peeve: staples in the bed (worse than toenails) - the result of
living with someone who's such a workaholic he takes his work (all
stapled up) home with him....

Marianne
From: steveb@cernvax.cern.ch (Steve Bougerolle)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Last Peeve in Paris
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:33:24 GMT
Reply-To: steveb@erich.triumf.ca
Organization: CERN, Geneva, Switzerland


(Well, actually it's the last peeve in Geneva but it doesn't sound as
dramatic that way).

The pop machine is out of Coke again.
-- 
_|\ |V| /|_  Steve Bougerolle, U. of British Columbia Physics Dept.
\  \| |/  /
 >_______<    STEVEB@TRIUMFER.BITNET
     !                                   STEVEB@ERICH.TRIUMF.CA
From: cgy@cs.brown.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Iain M.^H^H Banks (was Re: Russ is Everywhere)
Date: 10 Apr 1992 02:46:19 GMT
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.cs.brown.edu

In article <19957@castle.ed.ac.uk> tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham) writes:
>>
>>Peeve2: People who use the word "sci-fi."  I hate to denigrate, but nobody
>
>Banks used it when I spoke to him. He prnounces it as "skiffy" which I

Ah well you see that makes it perfectly all right, so long as it doesn't
sound like the nickname of your local pseudo-Hellenoid cageful of
beer-swilling louts.  Tell me, A J, do they have "frats" in England?

c
From: hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Lemon Gin, Rape
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:51:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.dvpj7yp
Organization: Dead Goat Graphics

In article <19798@castle.ed.ac.uk> egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page) writes:
>
>ObPeeve;  Vice - President Danforth Quayle.  It worries the shit out of
>me that you 'Merkins have an electoral system which allows someone with
>the brain of a fake quartz crystal to get that close to supreme power.

Ob!Peeve: In my 8:30 to 5:00 life I'm a graphic designer/art dude. Last
week some lady came by who was in charge of a fund-gathering thingie for
Bush-Quayle '92 at which for the mere price of $500 (that's $3500 in dog
dollars or 133 bottles of vaguely drinkable Bulgarian red from my
unfriendly neighborhood supermarket) one could have their picture taken
with none other than Dan Quayle. 

Anyhow, the lady wanted a map drawn up to show the idiots^H^H^H^H^H^H
contributors how to get there. For some reason she wanted to put every
cross street in a 3-mile trip on this map. The fun part was explaining
that maps should be very simple in general, and this one in particular,
without actually saying that she was holding a reception for a twit. (Now
maybe we should put a wee reminder here that green means go...)

>If someone was to tear off his goolies and stuff them up his arse, they
>too would be doing the world a service by simultaneously preventing him
>from propagating and stemming the flow of bullshit.

Don't let his wife hear you say that last bit. Whew! She's grim. She's
scarier than pissing blood.

ObGraphicsPeeve: Persons refering to Adobe's Illustrator program as "Adobe"
as in "Do the color separations in Adobe." Adobe *what*?! Adobe is a company
for God's sake. They make lots of stuff. Do you mean Illustrator or Streamline
or *what*?! Be specific. I don't talk about type and say, "Do that in ITC."
Boy, this pisses me off soooooo much.

ObWeapons: Hot wax and dull razor blades.

ObBonusPeeve: Cutting rubylith.
-- 
"You could fry an egg on the sidewalk 'cuz it's so hot.
 It would taste like *shit*, but ya could."
                                           -- Phillip Prodger
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: pmmuggli@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Pauline M Muggli)
Subject: flying, stinging insects
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:36:09 GMT


peeve:  bees (honey, african and bumble), hornets, wasps, yellow
jackets, etc.

i am a rational person and can handle the sight of many insects,
although i feel a desire to see them crushed, but when i hear
the sound of a stinging insect flying around me, i become a bundle 
of fear-ridden nerves.

i duck and dodge even when said insect is not within 3 feet of
me.  i resort to chemical warfare.  i don't see why they have to
expand their territory to the inside of my apartment.  i'm the
one who pays the rent.  they weren't invited.  i don't go to their
homes uninvited.

anti-peeve:  i haven't seen any of these bugs while on an
interview.

pauline
From: dmunroe@gollum.wr.tek.com (David Munroe)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: flying, stinging insects
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:45:15 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc

In article <1992Apr10.203609.18250@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu> pmmuggli@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Pauline M Muggli) writes:

 >but when i hear the sound of a stinging insect flying around me, i
 >become a bundle of fear-ridden nerves.

Just don't freak out if you hear one while driving.

-Dave
From: ELLBRUA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (The Lemming)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Geographic areas (was Re: pocquers (was Re: Smoking Surrogat
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:42:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: YaleVM.167C2F918.ELLBRUA
Organization: Yale University

In article <1992Apr6.111917.28754@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
lozanoj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Jones) writes:
 
>Takes a rat to know a rat, eh, Mr. _Lemming_? Cultural commentary from
>someone who is named after a small rodent popularly known for its habit of
>committing mass suicide is dubious, at best.
 
I'm afraid this is a myth.  Lemmings do undergo mass migrations, but
they don't jump off cliffs into the ocean.
 
Actually, Walt Disney heard about lemmings' suicidal tendencies and
decided to do one of his nature films about it.  He went to Scandinavia
and found out that lemmings don't jump off cliffs.  He wanted to film
it though, so he made his film crew chase them over the cliffs and filmed
that.  Truly horrible.
 
 
Alex Elliott
The Lemming.
ellbrua@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
From: malc@pyramid.unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: These damned pickup trucks from Washington State
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:43:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Xinaian Tourist Bureau

Why is it that nearly every full-size pickup truck I see with Washington plates

- is powder blue, white, or light green
- is two-wheel drive
- has narrow car-type tires, usually whitewall
- has stainless steel add-on running boards
- is spotlessly clean

!?! Why don't these people just buy Buicks with trailer hitches, ferchrissakes??

Grrrr....

--
Malcolm L. Carlock                      Internet:  malc@unr.edu
                                        UUCP:      unr!malc
                                        BITNET:    malc@equinox
From: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Amurrica (was Re: peeve dump)
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:47:38 GMT
Reply-To: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Organization: Penicuik People's Revolutionary Sheepdog Liberation Front

And lo, tim@comphy.UUCP (Tim Mefford) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> Explain for me, if you will, why Britain, in this day and age, need
> to spend Billions of pounds maintaining a large fleet, dispropotionate
> for its GNP to any nation's, if not to recapture the glory of great
> Brittania.

Just how disproportionate is the British fleet though? Lemme see, we've got
a bundle of outdated frigates, a couple of 50s vintage assault ships, two
toy aircraft carriers...

Not a lot. In terms of *numbers* of ships we might score quite high, but
remember that a large chunk of the RN consists of piddly wee fisheries
patrol vessels and minesweepers.

The minesweepers brings up another thing - the UK is an *island*. This
means it is *surrounded with water*. In the event of war, it's important to
keep sea channels open. The US, remember, is sparsely populated compared to
the UK and is *easily* capable of feeding itself. Not so the UK - we may
have been able to do so (just) during WWII but were there to be a war we'd
be very dependent on imported food. Hence all the minesweepers, to prevent
the aforementioned imported vittals ending up as fishfood. As an island
nation our fleet is perhaps rather larger than would be required by
somewhere like, oh, Switzerland, but c'mon, Tim, the UK isn't exactly noted
for having any Major Firepower at sea these days. We've got a cruddy navy
filled with ships that are either old or badly designed. Not a Big Bad
Supercarrier in sight. 'Bout the only decent things in our navy are the
subs.

> Anarchy, however, will remain the domain of the UK.  Your soccer fans 
> require no guns to instill a sense of anarchy wherever they go.

Ahem, since when have Scottish fans had a reputation for mindless violence?
The last major incident involving Scots was, oh, the late 70s I think.
Even the English reputation is overstated these days. Over here in the UK
we may get a distorted picture of the US as a land populated entirely by
crack dealers toting Uzis, but bear in mind that any picture of the UK as
being terrorised every Saturday by drunken fitba' fans is equally
inaccurate.

--
		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
 "Isn't it nice/Sugar and spice/Luring disco sheepdogs/To a life of vice."
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From: jdeutsch@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Jeffrey Deutsch)
Subject: Re: Psychology (was: Re: Lawyers not Chemists)
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:24:11 GMT

In article <92104.091835JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu (Jenni Sheehey) writes:
>Warning:  the peeve content of this article is low.  Sorry.
>
>In article <1992Apr13.061855.14756@cs.brown.edu>, cgy@cs.brown.edu (Curtis
>Yarvin) says:
>>
>>please don't
>>grow up to be a psychofascist.  It's all right to be a psychiatrist, as long
>>as you understand that you're only in it for the money, but I have serious
>>moral objections to forcing "therapy" on people.
>>
>
>Who's forcing anything?  If it's therapy or jail, most people will
>choose therapy.  If you're upset about people being forced to have
>therapy, join the people who are ranting about the lawyers.
>
	Ok, Jenni, I'm holding a gun to your head. Please hand over all
your valuables now. WHAT! Me a *ROBBER*!!! Perish the thought! 
*Every one* of my victims has chosen to *freely* give me her property
rather than be shot to death!

>ObPeeve: Having to defend my field all of the time because very few
>people know as much about it as they think they do, and everyone thinks
>they know *all* about it because they've had one or two experiences with
>it.
>
>RelatedPeeve: Many people act about psychologists the same way they act
>about Christians: If I've met a bad one, all of them are bad.
>
>                                                 --Jenni

	ObSuperPeeve: Psychologists/Psychiatrists who seem to have been
practicing on the wrong side of the Iron/Bamboo Curtain. These are the
people who really *should* read Thomas Szasz...he believes in *freedom*
for people to help themselves/seek help on their own-not "helping"
people who don't want such "help". 
	I don't have his book _The Untamed Tongue_ with me right now
(a collection of his aphorisms about life, happiness, the world in
general, etc), but one of his best is (almost verbatim) "A person cannot
make another happy, but he can make him unhappy. That is the main reason
why there is so much unhappiness in the world".

-- 
"A top-secret government study indicates that we wouldn't be any worse
off if we let the economists predict the weather and the meteorologists
predict the economy."
-Paul Harwitz, _Wall Street Journal_, March 19, 1980
From: JMM151@psuvm.psu.edu (Jennifer Mina)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Engineers, an explanation
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:48:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92106.174807JMM151
Organization: Penn State University

Since some people out there seem annoyed at my peeve about
Engineers, I feel that I must explain myself...

Let me rephrase my peeve:  Penn State Engineering Teachers --
everyone I've met (or heard about) is either 1) an old-fashioned,
men-are-better-at-everything, engineering-is-the-only-way-to-go,
if-you're-not-an-engineer-you're-nothing  teacher OR 2) a young,
I'm-better-than-you-because-I-have-a-degree  teacher.

Bitch if you must, but I won't change how I think. :-p

--Jennifer
From: steinar@faust.solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Engineers
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:48:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: faust.STEINAR.92Apr15164815
Organization: Flodnak, Inc., Trondheim, Norway

Jennifer Mina writes:
>Peeve: Engineers -- Need I say more?

Yes.

I _like_ my engineer.  Except when he insists on flipping though all the
channels five or six times, just to make sure there really isn't anything
worth watching on TV.  Other than that he's very good to have around.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
From: dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Gender assumptions
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:23:21 GMT
Organization: NASA GSFC CDP VLBI

In article <20282@castle.ed.ac.uk> egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.153259.8544@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892) writes:
>
>>The "blame the victim" mentality upsets me to no end.  People have rights.
>>...
>
>Hear Hear!  That is why I get upset about the police telling me it was
>my fault I got hit by a car and therefore I should pay for the damage to
>the front of the vehicle.  The fact that I was carried off to the
>hospital in screaming agony does not alter their point of view.
>
>Hey!  I had a RIGHT to be standing in the middle of the road!
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
       Of course, if this were not true, then the guy driving the car would
       be the victim, and you the perpetrator.
From: jennyb@carina.unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: Jeremy's amazing incredible feet!!!!!!
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:00:39 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Distribution: usa 

In article <5415@catnip.berkeley.ca.us> bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (poultry in motion) writes:
>baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin) writes:
>
>>In article <g=ljtwl@lynx.unm.edu> jennyb@carina.unm.edu () writes:
>>>So buy a ladies' 10.
>>	Yech! Those are got girls!
>
>And they're two sizes smaller than men's sizes, not 1.5!

I stand behind my original statement.  Men's size 8 give me bunions.

UnrelatedPeeve:  PC wars.  "That's PC!  Anal!  Anal!" "Is not!  Bigot!" 
"Is too!" "Is not!"  Reminds me of baboons & mandrills debating whether 
a red or blue ass is better.

APlagueOnBothTheirHousesPeeve:  Our national "leaders".  Watched C-SPAN
last night as the Harkin amendment to cut defense was defeated.  Before
that, watched Domenici and Harkin puzzle over the _DOLLAR_ amount...was
it 6 billion, or 8 billion?  Nobody knew, until a _HANDWRITTEN_ note
on the end of the bill identified the amount as 6 billion.  _2 FUCKING
BILLION_ dollars in a note tacked on the end of a bill.  These guys
are living in FantasyLand.

Jenny Ballmann
jennyb@carina.unm.edu

Xref: sparky alt.peeves:7911 soc.veterans:504 soc.singles:11088
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,soc.veterans,soc.singles
Subject: WHY DO THEY DO IT!!!!
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:04:29 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper


My ProblemOlderWoman is downstairs suggesting that I should
come watch some movie, as she thinks it is something that I
would want to watch....

but when I ask, "What are the Unit Insignia????"

she says, "the what? and where?"

I say, "On the Uniforms!"

And She gives me the RANK INSIGNIA!!! 

I want Collar Tabs, I want epillets, I want pips, I want
USEFUL TACTICAL INFORMATION!!!!!

Where Do women LEARN their Unit Identification Skills!!!!

ciao
drieux


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