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From: trice@bnr.ca (Tony Rice P885)
Subject: NMS, FAQ list, and various other stuff
Reply-To: mrmidi@aol.com
Organization: BNR, Inc. Research Triangle Park, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 22:24:24 GMT


Hello fellow Rush fans,

I have only been reading this group a little while, but I read
and contributed to the National Midnight Star for several years.
Additional, I just had our usenet admin-type-person add this group
to our server so its taking a while to catchup.

Enough small talk, My questions about this group are:

1) Is the NMS posted here?  I could subscribe but since my employer
   frowns on "non-business related" external mail, it would be
   hazardous to my employment

2) If not would someone start posting it?

3) Is the FAQ list that is put out in a special edition of the NMS
   each month (it was a two parter last time I checked) posted here
   and cross posted to news.lists?

4) If not could someone post it?  I dont have access to ftp and  
   archie doesnt help either (see question 1)

5) Any Rush gifs floating around suitable for my root window?   

If any of these are tired old questions, ignore me, I'll catch on.  If
they are valid questions, by all means, followup to them!!

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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: rush2112@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Troy Hickman)
Subject: "I Think I'm Going Bald" Question
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:33:49 GMT


Say, this may be a question already covered here (though I didn't see it in 
the FAQ), but in "I Think I'm Going Bald", what the heck is it that Geddy
yells just before the bridge? (It sounds rather like "I'm wired!", but that
doesn't add up)




"To B-Man, or not to B-Man. That is the question." 
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES)
Subject: Re: 2112 == Twenty-one Twelve or Two One One Two?
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:51:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.161051.20579@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> chub@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Charles Ray) writes:
>Basically the subject says it all ........
>
>Is it pronounced Twenty-one Twelve or Two One One Two?
>
>Or something else?
>
>
>-- 

Its definitely 21-12, not 2-1-1-2. Listen to ATWAS. Quoting from
Memory (geddy) "We'd like to do for you Side 1 of our latest
album. This is called 21-12." 

Rodney Boles
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush and Marillion
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:04:16 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <D40374W.92Oct14222457@kaira.hut.fi> d40374w@kaira.hut.fi (Tero Valkonen) writes:
>In article <98491@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:

>   >No, Marillion only opened for Rush for a handful of shows on the PW tour.

>   One of them was Milwaukee -- I enjoyed Marillion but wasn't blown away...

>Interestingly enough, now that you mentioned the city, Milwaukee is one
>of the few cities in America in which Marillion is "big". Fish reported
>that in Milwaukee they were considered equal to Rush, whereas in some
>places they were (nearly) booed off the stage. 


Well, they certainly were treated respectfully in Milwaukee. But I think
the Fish was not fully in control of his ego when he said that Marillion
was considered _equal_ to Rush there. Milwaukee is virtually the
strongest support for Rush in the whole US. I'm sure everyone who wasn't
really _into_ Marillion was also relieved to hear something other than
power chords too. I found Marillion a bit tiresome (I didn't know any 
of the songs, which doesn't help) but at least they weren't obnoxious,
and certainly they weren't _stupid_ like Vinnie Moore (MHO, apparently
shared by many others)...


Gregg




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Gregg Jaeger    (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu)          VOTE PEROT  VOTE PEROT       
If you think the Republicans screwed up the country, can you afford to
see what the Democrats will do?!   ->BEWARE OF SLICK-WILLY CLINTON!!<-
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: rush2112@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Troy Hickman)
Subject: Re: Opening Acts
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: alt.music.rush
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:41:23 GMT

In article <Bw1qEH.4MJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
> 
> Speaking of Marillion opening up for Rush, I really would like to get some
> recommendations on which Marillion album to try out for my first, and also,
> what other bands have opened for Rush in the past.  As a reletively new, and
> young fan (my first tour was Presto), I think that my favorite opening act
> so far is Eric Johnson (at Redbird Arena, Normal, IL).  I love "The Cliffs
> of Dover."
> -- 
> **RUSH**YES**METALLICA**PINK*FLOYD**PEARL*JAM**PETER*GABRIEL**PAUL*SIMON**REM*
> * "If you don't get even, you learn to take, and I will take you..........." *
> * c-amin1@uiuc.edu*********************Peter Gabriel, "Family Snapshot"*******
> *The University of Illinois, Urbana/Champaign***Go Illini!*Orioles!*Cowboys!**
> 
> 

I would certainly agree about Eric Johnson. The man is amazing; I could listen
to his stuff all day (much like Rush). Does anyone know when his new one is
due?
From: satch@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Victor Corbin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: MTV and Opening acts
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:41:20 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

Why is everyone so concerned that MTV doesn't play enough Rush.  Rush is the 
highest form of no Bull s**t music and MTV is the lowest form of B.S.  I
am proud to say MTV rejects Rush because to me that only complements Rush.
So MTV freaks goe blow yourself until you impload!!!!!!!!

On the subject of opening bands, I'd like to see Rush with Kiss. Gee that
hasn't happened since 1974.  Kiss is one of my favorite bands next to Rush and
I think they can still kick. So Kiss and Rush 1993 Tour!!
From: raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: General Admission (was Opening Bands)
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:43:48 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos

In article <Bw66Kt.6wp@acsu.buffalo.edu> dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.133546.1451@ncsu.edu> raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES) writes:
>
>I am very surprised at this.  I thought that Rush never allowed 
>general admission at any of there concerts due to safety factors.
>All 8 shows I have seen (since 1984) have been reserved seating  
>exclusively.
>
>-- 
>Don Dianetti  --  SUNY at Buffalo  --  dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu
>----------------------------------------------------------------

Actually, both the Charlotte show on HYF and the Greenville, SC 
show that opened the Presto tour were GA. And of course the
outdoor ampitheatres tend to have General Admission on the hills.

BTW, it was cool seeing the opening show of the Presto tour.
A little rough at spots, but the first bars of Xanadu had me jumping 
out of my seat. Talk about SURPRISED!! 
We drove 6 hours for that show, only to get there and find it sold
out and no scalpers AT ALL. Probably 30 people standing around wanting
tix. I managed to talk the pretty girl working the will call
window into selling us tix that hadn't been picked up yet. We took 
our seats less than 5 minutes before rush came on (or should I say,
took our stairs). I had to promise to take her to dinner afterwards.
Unfortunately, she wasn't around when the show ended :(

Rodney Boles
From: d40374w@kaira.hut.fi (Tero Valkonen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Simple question?
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:06:00 GMT
Organization: The rational midnight star

In article <92289.114000U59919@uicvm.uic.edu> U59919@uicvm.uic.edu writes:

   What are all of us who love RUSH going to do when they finally die or call it
   quits?

Nothing special. Keep listening to them. Why?
--
Tero Valkonen
d40374w@kaira.hut.fi
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
Subject: Where's the FAQ?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:20:24 GMT

	I _was_ going to post a question about all the details of the
_Hold Your Fire_ gate fold picture (since I couldn't identify stuff from
every album), BUT ... I figured I'd just get referred to the ol'
hard-to-find FAQ file anyways.
	I'm iffy on how to work ftp, but I'll give it a shot if I know
the site.

	- Gord, a.k.a. glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca , sez "Thanks in
	  advance"
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Terrance Stedman)
Subject: Who is the guy on the cover of Power Windows?
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:05:54 GMT

	This question has been asked before, but I've never seen an answer.
He also appears on the cover of the Big Money single and probably elsewhere
too.  Any ideas?
	As for Marillion albums to buy, I'd recommend Script for a Jester's
Tear, Fugazi, Misplaced Childhood, B'sides Themselves, Real to Reel, 
Clutching at Straws, The Thieving Magpie, Brief Encounter, all boots, etc :)
Seasons End and Holidays in Eden are w/o Fish and are in my opinion a great
departure from the '82-'88 material.
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 I ) I I <~ I_I   Terry Stedman				 .sig copyright 
 I \ I_I _> I I   Internet: gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu   1992, T. Stedman
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From: albertr@crchh780.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Albert Reva)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: _2112_ Cover
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:54:46 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx

In article <1687E10C8F.PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ethan Evan Prater) writes:
|>  
|> So my question is, did the members of Rush intend that red star as Satanic
|> imagery? I've followed the recent discussion here, but I didn't see it reach
|> any definite conclusion. And have any of you had similar experiences with
|> people turned off to Rush because of perceived Satanism (or maybe drug
|> use--Passage to Bangkok)?
|>  
|> I appreciate your comments.
|>  
|> --Ethan
|>  
|>     "The sign of Eth is rising in the air..."


	First of all Rush has never been satanic, to even imply it, its stupid.
Second of all...look at you CD collection and name one single artist that's any good that has not done DRUGS in quantity...Anyways a passage to Bangkok is about pot which is perhaps beneficial to ones health..
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 06:36:32 GMT

cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:

>Btw... I love the fight scene between by-tor and the snow dog...
>I can always imagine what is happening and who is getting thwarted...
>also... last question... what the hell is that heavy bass sound and who does it 
>represent by-tor or the snow dog? who ever it is... That sound sure sounds fucki
>n' bad ass!..

   It's By-Tor. That's Geddy with his bass going through distortion,
flanging, lots of effects. This is why they used a tape of this sound on
the ATWaS version. (I'm always egging on the sound guy to get the tape up to
the right point in the song. :)
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Personal Shreve (was Re: Joke)
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:57:54 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Oct16.154326.18883@bmerh85.bnr.ca> jclarke@bnr.ca (John Clarke) writes:

>Kevin Flewitt (ex-Personal Shreve) used to go on the road
>with the guys and arrange whatever extras the gang needed.
>Sort of an assistant road manager.  He was "let go" along
>with most of their personnel after the Hold Your Fire tour.

I was wondering why ``most of their personned'' (an exaggeration?) were
let go then. I know that they changed the lighting people (due to their
lack of innovation) but didn't hear any reasons why others were ``let
go''.

Gregg



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Gregg Jaeger    (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu)          VOTE PEROT  VOTE PEROT       
If you think the Republicans screwed up the country, can you afford to
see what the Democrats will do?!   ->BEWARE OF SLICK-WILLY CLINTON!!<-
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Music
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:23:05 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <BvzzB7.1MH@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
> 	I would like to start a new thread, so here goes:  What kinds of 
> music, other than RUSH, of course, do you listen to?
> 
> 

	Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!

	this thread has been 'round before ... and what we got was a straight
month of endless screens of groups.  May i humbly ask that we not start 
this all over again?  Or am i just being an old curmudgeon?

Thomas Beaudoin
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel: Rush's Best Album
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:28:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <cubsfan.718779746@camelot>, cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman) writes...
>When I read the "B" Mans book it was the only albulm I hadn't
>heard yet.  HE sort of put it down or at least described as you
>did how it failed when it was released.  He also mentioned
>those people who insist it is there best.  I Kind of made
>fun of it.  Then I got it and I think that it's there best!
>It covers a wide variety of topics for a 5 song albulm.
>The songs also musically vary in style.  NOt to mention   
>Fountain which is truly a work of art.  I love it!

When it comes down to a true work of art being overlooked, "Caress of Steel"
is it.  "Fountain of Lamenth" is so deep.  It is truly about life. The 
beginning, the road ahead, and the finale.  It deals with myth and dicerning
myth.  I don't know why most people think this is their weakest album.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: wanne@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Daniel `Dany` Wannemacher)
Subject: Re: MTV and Rush
Organization: Fachschaft Informatik, U of Saarland, FRG
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:56:18 GMT

Hi folks !!!

I can recall seeing up to now only one rush video on eMpTyV-Europe.
They've got a show called 'Greatest Hits'. 
usually at 17.00 and 22.00 cet .
One night a saw a live (?) video of Tom Sawyer.
I've never seen another video 'round here.
				-dany

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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ethan Evan Prater)
Subject: Rush "live recording list"?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 20:40:45 EDT

Is someone compiling a list of Rush boots--sound quality, repeat shows with
different names, etc.? I vaguely remember this from TNMS or this group. I
recently got a message from a guy named Nate with some info about boots, but I
lost his address.
 
A place called the CD Bar in Toronto has a number of (supposedly) high
quality CD boots, but I want to see which ones might be the same shows.
 
Thanks a lot for any info, and I apologize for not remembering this from
before.
 
--Ethan
 
    "The sign of Eth is rising in the air..."
From: U59919@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Simple question?
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:40:00 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

Question:
What are all of us who love RUSH going to do when they finally die or call it
quits?

Just had it on my mind.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:01:47 GMT


>**********Chintan Amin**************University of Illiois, Urbana/Champaign****


btw...
    I know this has nothing to do with the above...
however... i have one question i've been wanting to ask this group since i     
found it. In the album "Fly By Night" I listened to the battle of "By-tor and th
e Snow Dog. Now i know for certain that By-tor is in fact VERY EVIL! The lines 
"... centurion of evil,... the devil's prince..." kinda gave me that hint...
So basically... he tries to escape hell but the one thing in his path, Snow Dog,
defeats him in battle and "the overworld is saved again" so by-tor retreats back
 into hell... then the story is continued in CoS, The Necromancer...
I belive that he is one of the three adventurers from willowdale out to defeat 
the evil Necromancer...however... in their journey the evil necromancer's dread
powers weaken their minds and sour their hearts (or something to that respect)
and the become mindless, souless spectres... I dunno if that is right of course.
..
but it does say that they enter the dungeon's and "bow defeated"
Then "Enter the champion, prince By-tor.." fuck's the necromancers shit up big t
ime...the necromancer then flys away in his undead form (a wraith) and every 
man in the dungeon is freed 'cause the evil spell of the necromancer has been 
lifted...
 
Now.. what i want to know...is why in hell would the devil's prince kill off the
 evil necromancer? Usually evil tries to convert good into evil and if they can'
t accomplish that then they kill off the good...so why kill off the necromancer?
 and even if he had just reason to kill him off... How in hell did he escape hel
l to get to the overworld... was there another battle between the snow dog 
where the snow dog lost that i missed?
 
Just a couple of questions from a perplexed Rush fan....
 
Andre                   "...Never need to wonder how or why..."
 
Btw... I love the fight scene between by-tor and the snow dog...
I can always imagine what is happening and who is getting thwarted...
also... last question... what the hell is that heavy bass sound and who does it 
represent by-tor or the snow dog? who ever it is... That sound sure sounds fucki
n' bad ass!..


Time to go and listen to it again... later.




	Please don't reply to me, I didn't write this!!!  Thanks.
-- 
**RUSH**YES**METALLICA**PINK*FLOYD**PEARL*JAM**PETER*GABRIEL**PAUL*SIMON**REM*
* "A pope claimed that he'd been wrong in the past, this was a big surprise" *
* c-amin1@uiuc.edu************************STING, "Jeremiah Blues, Pt1"********
*The University of Illinois, Urbana/Champaign***Go Illini!*Orioles!*Cowboys!**
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: hurben@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mike Hurben)
Subject: The face in CoS...
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:33:51 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Hey, I only asked if anyone else noticed it.  It is not all that obvious or
dramatic - it is something that just caught my eye a long time ago.  It helps
if you put the picture on the other side of the room...It looks like the
profile of a face, looking to the left, wearing some kind of hood...use your
imagination!

  



  - Mike Hurben           "..leuchtende Liebe, lachender Tod!" -R. Wagner
From: Brian.K.Sward@dartmouth.edu (Brian K. Sward)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: The face in CoS...
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:27:41 GMT
 <1992Oct13.141853.19246@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

I don't see the face you are talking about, but I see another one. 
This one is looking to its right and is a head and shoulders shot of a
woman.  The right hand and skull form the nose, and the pyramid and
smoke below it are the hair.  You have to get about 10-12 feet away to
see it.

Brian
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: ddrake@vela.acs.oakland.edu (dave drake)
Subject: Re: MTV and Rush
Keywords: Ignorant fools running the World with television
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:39:48 GMT

In article <1bi5npINN5c5@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu> fjs@nighthawk.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno) writes:

> keep
>people like us WAITING AND WAITING AND WAITING to hear them once again.

The only Rush videos I ever recall seeing on MTV are "The Big Money" and
"Mystic Rhythms" back when PoW first came out, and then only a few times.

Has anyone seen any others on MTV? I haven't paid much attention to that
station since leaving high school ('86).

--Dave O'Toole   (using ddrake's login)

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: jclarke@bnr.ca (John Clarke)
Subject: Personal Shreve (was Re: Joke)
Reply-To: jclarke@bnr.ca (John Clarke)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15:43:26 GMT

Kevin Flewitt (ex-Personal Shreve) used to go on the road
with the guys and arrange whatever extras the gang needed.
Sort of an assistant road manager.  He was "let go" along
with most of their personnel after the Hold Your Fire tour.
From: dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Studio Poll Results
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:17:50 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <Bw2x6G.9p1@unccsun.uncc.edu> jagrizza@uncc.edu writes:
>In article 67J@acsu.buffalo.edu, dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti) writes:
>>Here are the poll results as of 10/12/92.
>>If you want to add your input, look for the voting ballot in the follow-
>>up post, and follow the instructions there.  Thanks to everyone for
>>participating.  If more votes come in, the updated results will be
>>posted on 10/19/92.
>
>why dont' you include the live albums in this list??? ATWAS would 
>be my favorite album simply because it has live versions of both 
>2112 and bytor...
>
>I think they should count as individual albums because.. well, they 
>are...  also the songs on them should be seperate... I like the live 
>version of 2112 about twice as much as the studio version... (tho, 
>2112 is _STILL_ my favorite song, so I'd give it a 10 either way).
>
>just a thought...

Well, for thee studio poll I was more interested in people's opinions
about the _composition_ of the song, and not really any one particular
performance of it.
The art of composing and recording a song in-studio is different enough 
from the art of performing it live that I thought they should be separated.

However, I did offer a Live poll, including the three albums and three
major videocassetes and asked folks to rate the _performance_ of the
song.  I have posted the ballot twice in the last two weeks but the
response has been so underwhelming that I've abandoned it (with apologies
to the three people who did respond).

So, I'll make a last ditch effort - anyone interested in such a poll
just say so and I'll take another stab at it.  Otherwise consider it dead.

-- 
Don Dianetti  --  SUNY at Buffalo  --  dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu
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