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From: verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Boris Grebenschikov
Date: 20 Dec 92 05:13:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec20.001331.18711
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv

In article <LEONID.92Dec19131458@tuna.uchicago.edu> leonid@tuna.uchicago.edu (Leonid Andreev) writes:

>Really? I did not know he used so much lyrics, written by
>other people, he did not even know who they are. 

	I rather meant that he was accustomed to forget the lyrics
	on the concert and to come up with something 
	improvized. It was funny, especially when
	he tried to sing Tsoi's "Trolleibus, Kotoryi
	Idet Na Vostok" (The Bus Boung East) and 
	forgot the lyrics...

>I know he sung a 
>number of songs by Vertinsky, he used some well known English
>lyrics as well ( "Woodstock", "Death of king Arthur", etc. ).
>Well, "Gorod zolotoy" ( City the Golden ) - as for this one,
>nobody really knows, where it comes from. Bob used to refere
>to it as to "narodnaja", but this piece of lyrics is pretty 
>strange just for a folk song. Do you know anything about
>it's origin?

	The knowledge is pretty well-spread because
	it is written by Alexei Khvostenko and Andrei
	Volokhonskii - two famous Parisian avangardists
	who emigrated there in 70-ies. Khvostenko is a 
	brilliant songwriter in a style which I'd call a 
	mock KSP - his melodies are mostly stolen from KSP and 
	Soviet estrada of 30-ies (as he admits himself)
	and his lyrics are very sarcastic. He is
	a respected "serious" poet and was an editor
	of some avangardist magazine in Paris.
	He recorded and released at least one LP
	in France, I have heard a tape from this
	and it was excellent. BTW, he is the author
	of one KSP song which everybody knows -
	"Arlandina", which is quite original even
	musically. Volokhonsky, who is a diplomed
	Catholic theologist and even has some relations
	with Vatican, wrote the lyrics to "Gorod".
	Actually, this text is a translation from Revelation
	of Ioann. His close friend Khvostenko, in his usual
	manner, stole the music from some Italian or French
	harpsichordist of 16-th century.

	BTW, the story of this song "coming" to Bob
	is depicted in another of his songs, along
	with important (IMHO) insights of BG on his
	writing.

"Kak stranno to, chto zatevayu ya
Podobie lyubvi sozdat' iz zhazhdy
I muzykoi nasytit', chtob odnazhdy
Poverit' samomu - ne znayu ya...

Otkuda tot bozhestvennyi napev
Znakomykh not prekrasnoe spleten'ye -
Stuk v dver' moyu. Kto, sprashivayu - teni 
Otvetsvuyut: oriol, telets i lev.

Ya govoryu - otkuda vy ko mne
Kakoi sud'boi - i klyuch' v dveryakh vrashchayu
Postavit' chai nemedlya obeshchayu
I dver' derzhu na etoi storone.

Oni smeyutsya - vot naprasnyi trud!
Ne trat' sil zrya - i chinno v dver' prokhodyat
Sadyatsya v krug i glaz s menya ne svodyat
I kazhetsya, oni chego-to zhdut.

Ya govoryu: lyubeznye druz'ya
Ne mozhet byt', chtob vam byl nuzhen ya
Vozmozhno zdes' proizoshla oshibka -
No skripka na stene moei drozhit
I, Bozhe moi, mne kazhetsya, bezhit
Po ikh ustam spokoinaya ulybka..."
From: Patricia Schwartz <margaret@glas.apc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Date: 12 Dec 92 02:34 MDT
Subject: prostuzhena
Nf-ID: #N:glas:84600064:000:479
Nf-From: glas.UUCP!margaret    Dec 12 02:34:00 1992


Prostuzhena, blyublena, v Moskve
-------------------------------------------
 
Vmesto predisloviya
 
Eto moj vnutrennij dialog. Esli u vas net razresheniya
pobyvat' vnutri menya, mo, pozhalujsta, otxodite.
 
1. Eshchyo ne umerla
 
Ya xodila bez kashne u naroda
vchera v zastyvshom vozduxe
a ya cejchas umirayu ot mikroba
i sobirayus' zhit' v razluke
s moej lyubimoj Moskvoj.
Zachem ona menya ubivaet?
Ya lyublyu eyo vsej dushoj.
No chertovka - menya zarazhaet!
 
 
(in progress)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: Re: Estonian Russian-speakers
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:24:00 GMT

Sergei Viznyuk (viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu) writes:
>  Where were "multi-party" elections ?  In Estonia ?

Yup. They had, hm, I don't remember but some 5-10 parties running
in the elections.

>When half of the population didn't have the right to vote ?

Don't lie, Viznuyk. The reasonable number is 30-35%, not 50%.

>At least in Russia there were _direct_ presidential elections.

But the parliamental elections are nowhere to be seen.

>While in Estonia they used the good old
>Soviet version of "people's democracy" - "on the
>meeting of party's central committee, the general
>secretary of ... was elected Comrade .. sorry.. Mister
>Lennart Meri". Given the results of Estonian "elections",
>were they direct, the president of Estonia would be
>someone else, eh ?  Ryytel, if I'm not mistaken..

You are mistaken. Ru"u"ttel did indeed get more votes than
anyone else, but he did not get a majority. And as Rein 
Taagepera, who ended up as #3 in the elections on 24% after 
Meri (29%), was very much against Ru"u"ttel, it is not un-
likely that Meri would have been the people's choice too.

It is also worth noting that the roles of the presidents
in Russia and Estonia differ. The Estonian president's
role is of the representative kind, like Germany's and
Italy's - two countries who like Estonia elect their
presidents in the parliament.

Not that I expect Viznyuk to understand, or wanting to
understand such fine print.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11084 soc.culture.europe:10461 talk.politics.soviet:9720
From: verbit@birkhoff.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Mr.Vorlund's Nazi sentiments
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:32:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec15.003241.18500
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv

In article <1992Dec12.115437.6851@nntp.hut.fi> t35123n@taltta.hut.fi (Yoghurt (Tapio Vorlund)) writes:

>>			DOWN WITH THE NAZI SCUM,
>
>   Who is talking about human rights ? 
>
>   I think the best system would be a worldwide dictatorship lead be me.
>   I would get all the women and beer.
>
>   This system would be the best for russians too. All you need is
>   discipline and a dictator to love.
>
>   And yes, Alexei. Your name is in my "black book". When the revolution 
>   comes, you will seriously regret. But don't lose all your hope. You can
>   still make a repentance and become my supporter. Perhaps I'll be
>   generous and make you my court jester. (Of course I'll have to mutilate
>   you a little to make you look funnier)
>
>   BTW: Russian Independence is ILLEGAL. Russia Belongs to MONGOL KHANS!
>
>
> And here comes the .signature
> .....  .   ..... . .....   .   . :...: ..... .     .   .  .   . ... 
>   :   ...  :...: : :   :    . .  :   : :...: :     :   :  ::. : :  :
>   :  .   . :     : :...:     .   :...: :  :  :.... :...:  : ::: :..:

I like this! I agree with Yogurt in all but the world dictatorship
candidature. The dictator should be me. I kindly let Yoghurt to
be my Minister of Beer and have all beer.

P. S. All applications for goverment posts are past due. 
Only the Minister of Manure is not appointed yet, as I cannot choose
one of two persons: Serdar Argic and M. Lipshits. 

Misha.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Mark Lipsits <ml12@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: RELAX: Evreyskii anekdot
X-Xxdate: Sun, 13 Dec 92 09: 26:14 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: ml12@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:23:22 GMT

In article <101663@netnews.upenn.edu> Sergei Borodin,
sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu writes:
>  A idet ona o tom, chto chelovek, a imenno Mark Lipsits, nikak ne
>  mozhet nauchit'sja obraschat'sja s komputerom, a ot togo pripisyvaet
>  mne chuzhie slova. A pripisav ih mne, delaet duratskii vyvod o moem
>  chuvstve umora. Povod-to, vrode by v dannom sluchae i pustjashnyi, no
>  ja opasaus' kak by eto ne pereroslo v privychku. 


I just want to clear some misuderstanding here.  Sergei, I never tried to
pu someone else's words in your mouth -- I was replying to that strange
outburst about "economical Jews"  Please, understand me, I am using a Mac
which has barely enough memory to run System 7.  The computer itself is a
nusance.  Plus, very often, when I try to post an article it says that
"connection has timed out", and then it assumes all the responsibility
for my article, leaving me without a clue on what to do.  (I'll be glad
to recieve any suggestions)  I guess you had a chance to show off your
wits, and to flame me -- that's cool -- I loose.  But I hope that the
topic is closed now, with my apologies.
As for the people who did not think the jokes were funny -- it is their
right.  I personally think that there are a lot of jokes being posted
that lack a sense of humor.
Mark Lipsits.  Cornell University Engineering ComSci.  AKA
ml12@cornell.edu 
                                        ***Lynah Faithful***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
From: tahonen@katk.Helsinki.FI (Timo Ahonen)
Subject: Re: Estonia's Russian speakers
Organization: University of Helsinki, Computing Centre
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:06:59 GMT

In article <15089.2b2c6f3e@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:

>In article <tahonen.67@katk.Helsinki.FI>, tahonen@katk.Helsinki.FI (Timo Ahonen) writes:
>> In article <14987.2b24dab5@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>> 
>>>If non-Estonians in Estonia agree to tolerate the
>>>humiliation they suffer under current regime, they
>>>deserve it. I don't see how the subject of citizenship
>>>matters here at all. Even if the Russian-speakers got
>>>Estonian citizenship automatically, as they did in
>>>ALL other x-Sovok republics except Latvia, it would not
>>>mean that the current regime in Estonia is democratic.
>>>(Azerbajdzhan is another example).
>>>Though the citizenship issue is surely underscores the
>>>"achievements" of Estonian-type "democracy".
>> 
>> What would it take, in your opinion, to make Estonia an 
>> democratic country as you define it?

>First, no country in a world where 30-50% of adult population
>doesn't have the right to vote, could be considered democratic.
>(Or maybe our Swedish and Finnish defendants of Estonia have
>another understanding of democracy ?).
>So in order to make Estonia a democratic country, one just needs
>to apply the universal principles of democracy: equal rights, free
>elections, etc.

>> And what are the faults in its present 
>> system that prevent full democracy in Estonia?

> The very same faults which prevented South Africa, Nazi Germany
>and x-Sovok from being considered democratic - the absebce of
>equal rights for all population, the absence of free elections
>(the recent "elections" in Estonia could be called free only with
>a big sense of humor), the discrimination of minorities.

>Serega & Co

That's all about the citizenship issue. Still, you deny the meaning of the 
whole matter yourself:

a quote from above: "I don't see how the subject of citizenship matters here 
at all." (Serega & Co).

And since you brought up the subject of Nazi-Germany: how many Germans were 
allowed to stay at the areas that Germany had invaded during WWII after 
the war? Even if they had lived there before the war (re Sudetenland)?

Timo Ahonen                        "Sometimes I think the surest sign that
University of Helsinki             intelligent life exists elsewhere in the
Finland                            universe is that none of it has tried to
Timo.Ahonen@Helsinki.FI            contact us." Calvin by Bill Watterson
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11236 soc.culture.greek:11623 soc.culture.turkish:13354
From: wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: argic question
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:44:43 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.


J. Theodore Schuerzinger writes:

>Do you think argik knows esperanto?  :-)


   Any references for this marvelous flight of the imagination?
   Were you high on 'karakus' when you wrote this?
   Well, this drivel is the result of spending nights with your
   criminal handlers at the ARP/RARP/HARP terrorist triangle.
   If you had your wish, bones would rain from the sky.
   :-)

-- Ed
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 11:27:16 EST
From: TimeLord <X30KB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: A nice joke I heard

         Muzhik prishel na ptichij bazar y vidit-kto-to prodayet govoryaschuyu
 lyagushku za 10000 rubley. Muzhik cupil lyagushku, prishel domoy, posadil na
stol.
   - Nu, govori!
   - Ni za chto!
   - Govori!!!
   - Ni za chto.
Khorosho, muzhik izbil lyagushku. Snova posadil na stol.
   - Govori, negodnaya!!!
   - Khorosho, khorosho. KWA-A-A-K!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
Subject: Re: "Drugs" threaten democracy in former Soviet Union
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:18:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.014708.23150@netcom.com> oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:
}In article <1992Dec9.205714.3778@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
}>Wrong. Clinton wants to set up work camps for juvenile drug users.
}
}I do not recall hearing anything about that.  

Then you must not have payed close attention to the debate in which one of
the freelance reporters (Vanokur?  I find it highly significant that he's
freelance! :-) queried Billary, Bush, and Perot about drug prohibition,
and Billary came out in support of concentration camps called "boot camps"
for first-time drug offenders.

}A "work camp" is a better choice than the overcrowded juvenile and federal
}prisons, and a much better choice than the Darryl Gates and his ilk
}cheerleading the sympathetic Administration to shoot drug offenders on
}sight.

Have you ever been to one?  Ever known anyone whose been through their
"treatment" programs?

}Clinton was not my choice for President, but he's a better choice than
}Bush.

Perhaps, but not on the grounds of any enlightened views on drug policy.

Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! - Think Universally, Act Selfishly
starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to enlighten
oneself and others." - Voltaire
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: Re: Estonia8
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:21:41 GMT

Alexei Moiseyev (alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk) writes:
>The numbers of Russian-speakers in Estonia increased as a result of
>migrations INTERNAL to the country which was one in those days, i.e.
>the Soviet Union.
>
>This is not a legal matter once again.  I say that the country was one
>as a matter of fact, of shared resources and policies.

I'm sorry, but this is a point where I, and many other people,
disagree with you. Estonia was an occupied country and during
the occupation, many Russians immigrated to Estonia. Period.

Of course, you may hold another opinion, but in the international
community, you are not likely to get support for it, as very few
think that Estonia was part of the USSR as, for instance, Turkmenistan.

Then of course, we cannot overlook the fact that for many Russians
in Estonia, Estonia is their home. That's why I support a citizen-
ship criteria without any language requirement. But I am never
going to support the attitude that they are not immigrants,
because they are.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
From: acs_anshakov@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: "Last tost"
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:44:33 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls


		THE LAST TOST.
               ----------------

	I DRINK TO OUR RUINED HOUSE,
	TO THE DOLOR OF MY LIFE,
	TO OUR LONELINESS TOGETHER;
	AND TO YOU I RAISE MY GLASS,
	TO LYING LIPS THAT HAVE BETRAYED US,
	TO DEAD-COLD, PITILESS EYES,
	AND TO THE HARD REALITIES:
	THAT THE WORLD IS BRUTAL AND COARSE,
	THAT GOD IN FACT HAS NOT SAVED US.
           
                                       M. CVETAEVA
					(in translation)


  IGOR
V GLUSHI WISCONSII
LIFE IS SUCKS, AND THEN YOU DIE ...
************************************
From: verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Some Thoughts On Culture (was  Re: Re: RENAME ?!!
Date: 20 Dec 92 04:13:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec19.231339.18709
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv


Note that though I agree with Timur that there is lots of
culture.soviet stuff we could discuss besides ethnic flamewars
and feminism, I am for the creating of soc.culture.russia.
Primarily, it should be used to fight off people like Mark
Lipshits and Mutlu who flood the net with interethnic
bashing. The renaming is idiotic idea I (and 80% of netters)
am totally against.

Timur Ruban writes:


>There are indeed some topics, which I am personally interested in.

[deletions]

>          * What happened to all these "progressive" rock-groups of the 80's -
>"Akvarium", "Mashina Vremeni", "Kino" (well, I know at least about this one -
>Tsoy died not very long ago in a catastrophe), and others?  I shall be more
>than glad to talk about their works - both music and poetry.

	I wrote recently about MV so there is only Aquarium
	on your list "what happened to". Well, after a long
	hiatus (88-90) when B. Grebenshchikov lived primarily
	in US and Aquarium existed only 2-3 days a quartal
	(when BG was in Russia) Aquarium's existence lasted several
	months more and then it was finally disbanded by BG. Now
	BG heavily tours in Russia (especially in Kazan')
	with a new band ("BGBand") which does not contain people
	from A. lineup. They play mostly new songs and A.
	songs written 88+ (like _Milaya, Ne Trat' Vremya_,
	_Ivan I Danilo_  etc.) and those songs are
	sometimes excellent (_Lastochka_, _Gosudarynya_,
	_15 Bab_, lots of stuff indeed), but the *power*
	of Aquarium is completely lost: no songs like
	_Rebyata Lovyat Svoi Kaif_, _Nozh rezhet Vodu_,
	_Eshcho Odin Vecher_, _Leti Moi Angel Leti_ -
	the tortured noisy power pop Aquarium was
	about.

[ more deletions ]

	Misha.
From: ss107@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sergey  Shamis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Boris Grebenschikov
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:55:50 GMT
Reply-To: ss107@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sergey  Shamis)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Dec20.024119.2266@panix.com> jackz@panix.com (Evgueni Zabokritski) writes:
>In article <LEONID.92Dec19131458@tuna.uchicago.edu> leonid@tuna.uchicago.edu (Leonid Andreev) writes:
>                    ..................
>>Well, "Gorod zolotoy" ( City the Golden ) - as for this one,
>>nobody really knows, where it comes from. Bob used to refere
>>to it as to "narodnaja", but this piece of lyrics is pretty 
>>strange just for a folk song. Do you know anything about
>>it's origin?
>
>Well, I guess I will be the 1001st to point out that the author of this
>lyrics is Alex Hvostenko, AKA Hvost. As I recall, he had emigrated (to US?)
>when these verses were used by Bob. As for the music of this (excellent,
>in my opinion) song, it was also "borrowed" from an unknown English musician
>who lived circa 18th century. It was originally intended to be performed 
>on lute.

I am not a big fan of Boris Grebenshchikov, but I know that the music
for this song was taken from a piece called "Canzona" (as far as I
remember) by some Italian composer of 17-18th century.  I have the
notes at home, so I can look the name up in a few days and post it, if
anyone is interested.  By the way, the original melody was very slightly
changed by BG.

One more thing.  Someone has asked if there are any books with lyrics
by Makarevich and BG.  Well, just yesterday I got a book from Columbia
University library which is called "Al'ternativa:  opyt antologii
rok-poezii".  It has some poems (songs) by Makarevich, Grebenshchikov,
Gradsky, Tsoi, and a dozen other rock poets, whose names I have never
heard before.  But again, I am not a fan of rock music; I like bards.
This is a pretty small book (over 200 pages, but small format), so
there are few songs of each author.

						Serge
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:10902 talk.politics.soviet:9619 soc.culture.europe:10353
From: vadik@cs.umd.edu (Vadim Maslov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Estonia4 (in search of common points of view)
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:54:59 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Dec10.122050.17730@cs.chalmers.se> tammet@cs.chalmers.se (Tanel Tammet) writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.085913.1@cc.helsinki.fi> thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>>In article <11953@sorley.ed.ac.uk>, alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) 
>>writes:
>>> Mr.Hietaniemi writes:
>... Stuff deleted ...

 ... Scrap deleted ...

I suggest to readers of s.c.s good antidote which works fine against
pro/contra Estonian mutloids.

Yeah. it's one more line in you kill file:

/Estonia/h:j

It really helps.

Vadim Maslov.
-- 

Vadim Maslov.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:10900 soc.culture.europe:10350 talk.politics.soviet:9617
From: viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Estonia
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:50:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohstpy.15052.2b289c9b
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

In article <1992Dec11.122049.1@cc.helsinki.fi>, thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
> In article <15003.2b25eaba@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>> thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi lies without apprehension:
>> 
>>> 
>>> The Russian speakers in Estonia have the freedom to decide, whether
>>                                   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> (1) They will be Estonian citizens and reside in Estonia
>>> (2) They will be Russian (or any Baltic or CIS) citizens and
>>>     reside in Estonia
>>> (3) They will be Russian (or any Baltic or CIS or Israel) citizens
>>>     and reside in respective countries or anywhere in the world.
>>> 
>>> What's the matter?
>> 
>>   the matter is that it's not the Russian-speakers who
>> "have the freedom to decide" will they be Estonians citizens
>> or not, but the Estonian goverment officials who will
>> be conducting "language tests" and decide who "qualifies".
> 
> The decision who is eligible for citizenship is not "decided by
> officials" but determined by legal norms.

  Who is that guy called "Legal Norm" ?  He is Estonian
goverment employee, isn't he ?
now you're near enough to apprehend your own fallacy.

Serega & Co
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Mark Lipsits <ml12@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: RELAX: Evreyskii anekdot
X-Xxdate: Mon, 14 Dec 92 00: 08:20 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: ml12@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:04:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.211721.7018@news.nd.edu> Alex Strouwe,
alexei@cartan.math.nd.edu writes:
In article <1992Dec14.211721.7018@news.nd.edu> Alex Strouwe,
alexei@cartan.math.nd.edu writes:
> In article <1992Dec13.061901.16496@mail.cornell.edu> Mark Lipsits  
><ml12@cornell.edu> writes:
>|>
>|>outburst about "economical Jews"  Please, understand me, I am using a
Mac
>                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>|>which has barely enough memory to run System 7. 
>            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Mark Lipsits.  Cornell University Engineering ComSci.  AKA
ml12@cornell.edu 
                                        ***Lynah Faithful***
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