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From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: WangDAT: How to fseek() ?
Keywords: cron
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:58:16 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management


I would like to write a few programs to lay out our large databases onto a DAT
tape.  Unfortunately,  I  lack all expertise with   tape  drives,  and my Wang
manual is less than explicit.

I understand how to use devices (/dev/rxt0, /dev/nrxt0) to read and write data
byte by byte and  file by  file.  What I   really  would like, though, is  the
additional ability to  keep an  index on   disk,  and do a  fast fseek()  that
employs the WangDATs fast seek facilities. How would I do this in a C program?

I.e. could some kind sole please send me replacements  for fseek() and ftell()
with such DAT tape drives, please?

Thanks for any information.

/ivo welch

PS: Has anyone used SafetyNet? It got a rave review, but my efforts to contact
the author has been unsuccessful.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Anyone installed tcpd?
Summary: I can't get the 'try' program to return 'access denied' for a bogus host
Keywords: tcpd install help
Reply-To: jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:35:08 GMT

I've got a problem with the tcp_wrappers from cert (also known as
tcpd).  It supposedly monitors all activity over the specified daemons
and logs it or disallows access if the host cannot be looked up.

My problem is that when I make the program with all the options
(except SYSTYPE and AUX_OBJ) in the Makefile, the executables are
created without warning or error but after installation and reboot
they do not work.  The try program always returns 'access granted'
even if I know I'm giving it a non-existant host and it confirms it by
not finding the host's IP address:

# try telnetd bogushost
warning: host unknown: bogushost
daemon telnetd: host name bogushost (address ?.?.?.?): access granted

# try /usr/etc/telnetd bogushost
warning: host unknown: bogushost
daemon /usr/etc/telnetd: host name bogushost (address ?.?.?.?): access granted

(If it cannot find the host [as shown by the warning given and the
question marks for IP address], and I compiled it with -DPARANOID, why
is it allowing access to the named daemon?)

Any help would be appreciated on this.  Thank you.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu)
-- No NeXTmail please
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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 14:15:39 MDT
From: yackd@oregon.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: DOS Drive is Slow!!!!!#%$@#&^#@$


In article <1992Jul27.155939.4554@trilithon.mpk.ca.us>, henry@trilithon.mpk.ca.us (Henry McGilton) writes:
>In article <HARDY.92Jul26180640@golem.ps.uci.edu> hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu  
>(Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:
>    *  If it is any consolation to you: copying a 1.2 MB file to a DOS
>    *  formatted 1.44 MB diskette on a SONY MIPS portable took about as long
>    *  as copying from the DOS disk to the NeXT filesystem. 
>
>Sun SparcStations are just as slow reading DOS floppies.  I timed
>it out once -- the effective transfer rate is less than 2000 bytes
>per second.  I had postulated they had used a serial (RS232) interface
>to the disk, just like the ancient Apple II drives.
>
>	........  Henry

Hey!  Be fair!  I think my Apple ]['s disk is faster than my
NeXT with DOS disks!  I hate to see folks not give my ][ a
fair shake! :-)  Seriously, the performance of the NeXT floppy
drive is dismal.  They should be really embarrassed about that.
In fact, so embarrassed that it gets _fixed_.  Soon.

-Don Yacktman
From: Sean_Church@pages.com (Sean Church)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: System hangs after running UpgradePrep.app
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:28:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Banzai Research Institute

In article <1992Jul20.020405.1257@proforma.com> jgg@proforma.com (J. G.  
Gregory) writes:
> We have a system that we are trying to upgrade from 2.1 to 3.0(PR2).  It is a  
> 68040 cube with a 1.2g hard disk.
> 
> After running the UpgradePrep.app , the system will not boot.  An attempt to  
> run the boot command manually hangs the machine immediately.  We have tried:
> 
> NeXT>b
> NeXT>bsd
> NeXT>b -s
> 
> It hangs immediately after hitting return in all cases.  We have no  
> UNIX-experienced sysadmin to understand the nasties of this; I didn't even  
know  
> what "booting single user" was until tonight.  
> 
> This was our second attempt to bring up 3.0(PR2).  The first went off without  
a  
> hitch.  The only difference between the machines is that the disk on the  
> now-hung machine is not a NeXT-supplied disk.  The machine is being rented,  
and  
> we were not around when the disk was installed (and the owner is out of the  
> country!).  The /usr/adm/messages report looks like this:
> 
> Jul 19 19:05:29 proforma mach: SEAGATE ST41520N as sd0 at sc0 target 1 lun 0
> Jul 19 19:05:29 proforma mach: 	Disk Label: DATA
> Jul 19 19:05:29 proforma mach: 	Disk Capacity 1307MB, Device Block 512  
> bytes
> 
> The last line bothers me, because there is a mention in /etc/disktab that the  
> block size must be 1024.  Yet this disk is still working; we can boot off the  
> release 2.0 optical and the disk is there and useable.
> 
> Does anyone know what could be wrong?
> 
> Thanks in advance for any and all help.  We have a boat anchor until we can  
> boot.
> 
> --J Gregory

Does it really hang right after you hit the return ?
If so, you are still having the ROM start the machine at this point, and what  
is on the disk  (3.0, 2.2, 2.1, 1.0, or whatever) has yet to be read in, so it  
doesn't matter.

The disk itself could be hanging up the SCSI bus, but you would have seen this  
before upgrading (unless, of course, a hardware failure has occured at the time  
of boot-up).

What exactly appears in the monitor screen when you type :
bsd (return)
in the monitor. I think that there is a hardware , or maybe it's in your  
options you can change (boot device, etc) from the monitor screen.

Publish more info, or mail me, and we will see what the deal is. 

Also, the UpgradePrep.app mangles your sdmach kernal into the 3.0 way of being,  
so you can't run anything with out completing the upgrade procedure.

Hum.... does your system have an MO disk on it ? What kind of NeXT is it  
exactly ? I wonder if 3.0 supports the MO, or if it will lock up if the circuit  
is there ....


Sean
sean@pages.com
The company UNIX-experienced Sys Admin, and a whole lot more!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lga@sandman.stanford.edu(Laurent Amon)
Subject: Re: More /usr/lib/sendmail problems?
Reply-To: amon@cs.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 19:20:05 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.181001.27776@ctr.columbia.edu> mcquill@ccit.duq.edu (Tod  
McQuillin) writes:
>  Am I going nuts or what?
>  
>  I did /usr/lib/sendmail -bz, thinking I would create a frozen  
>  configuration file.  Well, it did.  But now when I do
>  
>  /usr/lib/sendmail -oi -oem -t < file
>  
>  I get Bus error (core dumped).  Bummer, huh?  When I deleted the  
>  /etc/sendmail/sendmail.fc, everything worked fine again.  Anyone else  
>  seen this?

From the NeXTanswers:
sendmail crashing frozen configuration file

Q: The sendmail on my NeXT computer is crashing with a bus error when I start  
it up.  Why?

A: If you have a frozen sendmail configuration file  
(/etc/sendmail/sendmail.fc), our sendmail will crash.  This limitation is  
documented in the hard-copy Release Notes for 1.0.

Frozen sendmail configuration is also not supported in 2.0.

QA424

Valid for 1.0 
Valid for 2.0 

Hope it helps,

Lga.
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From: dpape@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Pape)
Subject: Re: Missing .h file?
Organization: CSO Resource Center
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:12:18 GMT

i thought it would be more appropriate here as it might have been ( i previouslythought) an installation error...

Sorry.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: whr@lanl.gov (William H. Reed)
Subject: Setting up Swapdisk
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:21:49 GMT

I have a NeXTstation with a 105 Mb internal drive and a large external drive.   
I boot from the external drive.  I would like to configure the internal drive  
as a swapdisk.  I have tried to follow the instructions in NeXTAnswers (os.355)  
but am having no success.  Has anyone else accomplished this?  If so, would you  
please mail me detailed instructions about how to do it.

Bill Reed
whr@lanl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: lemson@fnbc.com (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Networking Problem
Reply-To: lemson@fnbc.com
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:48:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.052741.77142@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar  
Mohammed) writes:
> 
> I have the following problem getting a two station netinfo
> network going:
> 
> 2> I then rewire (with the n&c server still on) to get the following  
configuration
> and power on the second machine:
> 
>         T----C--------------------------C----T
>              |                          |
>              |                          |
>              N                          N
> 
>         T:  50 ohm thin ethernet terminator
>         C:  ethernet "T" connector
>         N:  NeXT machine
> 
> 
> 
> This works fine, but obviously, I shouldn't have to rewire the thing.
> 
> I should be able to use the following configuration, boot up the server,
> then boot up the client:
> 
>         T----C--------------------------C----T
>              |                          |
>              |                          |
>              N  (netinfo server)        N (netinfo client)
> 
>         T:  50 ohm thin ethernet terminator
>         C:  ethernet "T" connector
>         N:  NeXT machine
> 
> However, when I turn on the server, I get a "cannot find parent server"  
message.

These two look the same to me- I must be missing something.

Anyhow, did you wait a while for the server to find itself?  See  
NextAnswers netinfo.515.
--
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FNBC Sys Admin (Summer) UIUC NeXT Campus Consultant(rest of the time)
E-mail to: lemson@fnbc.com                          NeXTMail accepted
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: cron
Reply-To: Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:33:04 GMT

In <gfqx9!-@rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn) writes:

>I'd like a better cron too.
> 
>> [..] Each user is able to create, list, and edit his/her  
>> own crontab. 

Maybe this should be edited into an FAQ-answer.  

1.  Next's cron is standard BSD.  It works.  Better would be nice, 
but there's no reason for abusive talk about it.  

2.  Paul Vixie (who is, I think, moderator of one of the 
comp.sources newsgroups) has a cron system that he wrote that 
provides individual user crontabs.  It is freely available, is 
better than the SysV cron system (except that it doesn't include 
"at", so you'll have to keep using Next's vanilla BSD "at" that 
depends on cron), and has worked perfectly here (on 12 machines) 
for months.  I don't like a couple of Paul's design decisions, but
haven't considered them important enough to waste time changing.

3.  I think Paul can be reached as paul@vixie.sf.ca.us; he also has 
one or more addresses at Dec, I believe.  

4.  This pachage should be at the archive sites, but isn't.  I will 
be happy to NextMail my copy to one person with ftp access (I don't 
have it) who promises to upload it to the various Next archive 
sites, including Purdue for sure.  

I can include binaries along with the source, for those who need 
them.  But since the cron daemon runs as root, even if you cannot 
compile code and want to trust me, you owe it to yourself to peruse 
the source code, in case I wasn't careful enough myself and missed 
something.  Thus, I don't want to supply just binaries.
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From: sweet@skat.usc.edu (Rob Sweet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Behavior of OD at logout
Date: 22 Jul 1992 00:56:57 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

	I am using a 68040 NeXT cube that is tied into our network
file serving and account service.  I do not have root access, and I 
login (usually at the console) via my "network" account.  When using 
an optical disk,  that disk essentially becomes "owned" by whoever is 
logged in at the console.  When logging out, the optical disk USUALLY
is ejected.  On the few occasions that it did not eject, I'm sorry to
say I didn't remotely check what the ownership of the disk became.  
Also, when trying to eject for changing optical disks, I often get a 
"Disk Busy. Can't Eject." message.  The "Processes" window shows no 
applications or background processes that were launched from the OD.
This problem usually requires logging out in order to eject the disk.

	I would like to know if there is:

1.  A way to keep the OD from ejecting at logout and keep some directories
    private access and leave others group or public access.

    and/or

2.  A reliable way to eject and change OD's without logging out.

	As stated earlier,  I do not have root access, and I really
don't know much on the sysadmin level.  Please respond via E-mail and
I will post a summary if there is interest.  Sorry, but I don't have
NeXTMail.  I am not sure why not, but that's another question.

	Thanks a meg.

Rob Sweet	sweet@skat.usc.edu

"If the first step in a long journey is the most difficult, what is 
the NeXTStep?"  -  RS
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Subject: sendmail cofiguration
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:20:23 GMT

I'm having problems congiguring sendmail.cf. My uucp connection exists, just
can't get or send mail.

thanks

Robert de Lucca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Syntax for .forward file?
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:01:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.170030.6941@ifi.unizh.ch>
	lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Lytras Apostolos) writes:
>The .forward file is used by sendmail which is running suid root, so I
>wonder if there is a chance someone might use this feature (forwarding
>through pipes) to gain special privileges (a.k.a. hacking). Or is send-
>mail prepared to deal with such an attempt?

A properly-functioning sendmail will assume the identity of the
recipient user when processing a .forward file.

(Questions about sendmail?  Try comp.mail.sendmail!)

					-=EPS=-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: WangDAT: How to fseek() ?
Keywords: cron
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 05:25:06 GMT

In <1992Jul26.115817.27702@mic.ucla.edu> iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch) writes:
| I would like to write a few programs to lay out our large databases onto a DAT
| tape.  Unfortunately,  I  lack all expertise with   tape  drives,  and my Wang
| manual is less than explicit.
| 
| I understand how to use devices (/dev/rxt0, /dev/nrxt0) to read and write data
| byte by byte and  file by  file.  What I   really  would like, though, is  the
| additional ability to  keep an  index on   disk,  and do a  fast fseek()  that
| employs the WangDATs fast seek facilities. How would I do this in a C program?
| 
| I.e. could some kind sole please send me replacements  for fseek() and ftell()
| with such DAT tape drives, please?

The drive has the ability to do fast seeks, but fseek and ftell are
unlikely to work.  It may also be that the NeXT tape drive doesn't
provide this functionality.
--
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because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tomi@cc.tut.fi (Heinonen Tomi)
Subject: Hard drives
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 05:17:05 GMT




Hi!

I am going to buy a new hard disk to my next. I have two alternatives and
I don't know which one would be better or does both of them work with next
without any extra hacking.

These are the disks:

Maxtor Panther-0 1.2GB SCSI-2 5.25" FH
Seagate ST41200N (wren VII) 1.2GB SCSI 5.25" FH

If you have any information about these disks and how they work with next
could you please answer to me?
-- 
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From: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason)
Subject: Re: Syntax for .forward file?
Reply-To: jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:16:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.051420.568@tssnext.rmNUG.ORG> bruce@tssnext.rmNUG.ORG  
writes:
> In <1992Jul27.200734.26489@terminator.cc.umich.edu> 
> 	jmm@king.econ.lsa.umich.edu (Jeffrey K. MacKie-Mason) writes:
> :>Can someone point me to documentation for .forward files?  I've used  
Digital  
> :>Librarian to search all of the NeXT docs, FAQ, NeXTAnswers...
> 

>    While I must agree that external documentation DOES help a lot, the above
> original post raises a question WHY Jeffrey didn't find the entries in the 
> Unix on-line manual (perhaps didn't have it selected?)...
> 
> A quick grep of the on-line Unix manuals finds...
> 
> VACATION(1)	    UNIX Programmer's Manual	      VACATION(1)
> 
>
 
> Bruce
> -- 
> Bruce Gingery          bruce@TotSysSoft.com        (Total System Software)
> InterNet:  Bruce.Gingery@p1.f5.n310.z1.fidonet.org (  Cheyenne, Wyoming )
>        or  bruce@brucext.TotSysSoft.com
> NeXT-Mail: bruce@tssnext.rmNUG.org  < -or- > bruce@TotSysSoft.com



Bruce, I did find the vacation and alias man pages, thanks.  Those both mention  
forward, and vacation gives an example--I was looking for a complete  
specification of the .forward syntax.  I mimicked the vacation example for one  
of my users and it wasn't working.  The example doesn't explain, for instance,  
why the backslash: \eric.  (Turns out that's the syntax to make the mail be  
delivered to you also, despite .forwarding.)

Turns out the problem was due to a confusion between local and network-wide
accounts--we put the .forward file on one machine, but his mail was actually  
being handled on a different machine.

Thanks for the replies--one of the e-mail replies clarified the syntax.  Also, 
my apologies for the original request being posted twice--Newsgrazer gave me
an error message that made me think the first attempt hadn't been posted, so
I tried again.

--
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Dept. of Economics                bitnet:   usergc76@umichum
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Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1220          fax:          313-763-9181
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: TURNING OFF SCSI DEVICES AND REL 2.1
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:44:39 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <139383.2A730219@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> David.Basiji@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Basiji) writes:
>--  
>David Basiji - via ParaNet node 1:104/422
>UUCP: !scicom!paranet!User_Name
>INTERNET: David.Basiji@f236.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG


I have been receiving empty postings (well, not quite empty; the signature
panel always arrives) like the above one regularly recently.  They all seem to
be FIDONET postings.  Is there something wrong on my end?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: statman@stat.ufl.edu (Chuck Kincaid)
Subject: machine does not recognize my account
Organization: University of Fl, Department of Statistics
Date: 21 Jul 92 00:17:18

Hello,
	I have a NeXTstation with 2.1 at home.  I occasionally take it
in to the office at school to get nice ftp access.  Recently when I 
logged out (at home) it had no idea who I was when I tried to log back
in.  I could log in as root, but my regular user name was not known.  I
checked NetInfoManager and all of the information about me was there.
The same with UserManager.  The owner of my directories and accounts 
was my Group ID.  
	A knowledgable friend suggested I try 'nidump' into a file and
then 'niload' back from the file.  However, it would not let me do the
niload.  I can't remember the error message right now and, of course,
I didn't right it down.  Maybe something about can't make connection?
	The friend thought I might have a bad hostconfig file.  He
said that sometimes the system will deteriorate over time.  While, I
can't guarantee that the hostconfig is correct for a standalone machine,
I can say that it does not look for the network when it boots up.  Also,
when I rebooted the machine the problem was fixed (temporarily, at
least. :-)
	Does anyone have any ideas about this?  or seen it before?  I
appreciate any help.  Thank you.

charles d. kincaid
statman@sta.ufl.edu
'Damn fine coffee...and hot, too!'
	-- Dale Cooper
--
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From: dahla@mksol.dseg.ti.com (alexander dahl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: DOS Drive is Slow!!!!!#%$@#&^#@$
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:03:22 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc

In article <1992Jul25.225659.11815@leland.Stanford.EDU> amon@cs.stanford.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.195150.4262@mksol.dseg.ti.com> dahla@mksol.dseg.ti.com  
>(alexander dahl) writes:
>>  Am I just dreaming or what.  But to get something off of the
>>  net I must FTP to a PeeCee machine.  To get it to mine is
>>  via Floppy Net.
>>  
>>  I cannot imagine that it would be that BIG of a deal to    
>>  pass out the "new, faster" DOS driver for the NeXT floppy.
>>  
>>  Did I miss something along the way or did NeXT just decide
>>  that everyone was greatfully enjoyed with a disk drive that
>>  is slower than a Sinclair floppy?
>
>	Well, the DOS filesystem on the NeXT *is* slow. So slow that you 
>shouldn't use the workspace to transfer files on DOS disks. You should grab 
>the mtools from the net. They are infinitely faster. 
>
>	I've heard that the problem is fixed in 3.0, although I may be
>dreaming.
>
>Lga.
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>                                       |"I don't know what it's called, but
>Laurent Amon                           | we're doing one about going to see 
>       e-mail: amon@cs.stanford.edu    | a wizard. Something about following
>           lga@sandman.stanford.edu    | a yellow sick toad. (Moving Pictures)


Could you enlighten me on these mtools?  Where are they are how are they
used??

Thanks
-- 
Alex Dahl
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