From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: rec.games.video.arcade
Subject: LD thread from...here!
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:09:23 PST
Organization: BBS

Well, I didn't really get a WHOLE lot of requests, but, oh what the hell, go
ahead and flame me!
> Well, here's the thread of LD arcade games that I promised...
> 
> None of the messages have been edited (except adding some
> extra returns so that I could post this), and I didn't get
> permission to use any of them, so, oh well...:)  Also, some
> of the .sigs will get cut off...well that's just too bad
> isn't it?
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> Message #: 2
> From: David O. Dodge <dododge@wam.umd.edu>
> Subject: Re: LD: places to buy
DO> Date: Fri, 17 Jul 92 02:52:03 -0400
DO> 
DO> In article <btribble.0rnw@terapin.com> you write:
DO> >I was thinking about (maybe) getting a LD player and was
DO> >wondering if anyone would reccomend some good mail order
DO> >places that sell LD's, since not many stores around here
DO> >sell them, and if they do, with a small selection...I
DO> >probably wouldn't want to join Colombia House, I haven't
DO> >really heard anything good about any of their mail-order
DO> >divisions.
DO> 
DO> There are several good mail order houses, such as Tewksbury,
DO> Sight & Sound, Laser Perceptions, and J&R Frogg. Pick up a
DO> copy of pretty much any video magazine and look through it
DO> for ads. ("The Perfect Vision" is recommended but it is
DO> expensive and hard to find).
DO> 
DO> >The MAIN reason for this post is that I (along with some
DO> >people that I know that already own LD's) am interested
DO> >in buying the Laserdiscs that are used in the Laserdisc
DO> >arcade games, like Dragon's Lair, Space Ace, or Hologram Time
DO> >Traveller
DO> 
DO> Be prepared to look a LONG time and pay high prices. Many of
DO> these disks are collector's items and titles like Dragon's Lair
DO> have been out of print for several years. These are not normally
DO> made in large quantities.
DO> 
DO> >...does anyone know of any catalogs that would sell this type of 
DO> 
DO> You'll probably need to go to used LD dealers for this kind of
DO> stuff. "Video Brokers" is a good place to try but I don't think
DO> they have any in stock at the moment. I don't have the
DO> address/phone on-hand right now, but if nobody else sends it to
DO> you just send me Email and I'll dig it up.
DO> 
DO> >since they are playable on a home Laserdisc player (not just at
DO> >the arcade)...
DO> 
DO> Just be warned that some of these were really only designed to be
DO> played in an industrial player, and are not manufactured like
DO> ordinary discs. Instead of gluing two plastic halves together (as
DO> is normally done), one side of the disc may be a solid piece of
DO> aluminum. As a result the disc is MUCH heavier than a normal LD
DO> and takes a very long time to spin up/down on most players. I've
DO> never heard of one of these actually damaging a player but there
DO> is always a chance...
DO> 
DO> FYI: I know for a fact that most copies of "Dragon's Lair" were
DO> made this way and I believe all copies of "Space Ace" have a
DO> solid metal side. There was a (brief?) run of normal LD's of
DO> "Dragon's Lair", but most people I know of who have DL have the
DO> metal-backed one.
DO> 
DO>                                      -Dave
DO> Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
DO> 
DO> (Following taken from Bob Niland's (rjn@fc.hp.com) LD#14 out of
DO> the series of excellent LD articles)
DO> 
DO> *** Video Brokers {This entry contributed by
DO> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu}
DO>     1826 Irving St. NW  {may be 1836}
DO>     Washington  DC  20010-2644
DO> 
DO>     (202)-328-0428
DO>     Answer Machine: (202) 482-3113
DO>     Hours: Mon-Sat: 10:00AM - 8:00 PM
DO> 
DO>     OWNERS: Bill and Cindi Bullock
DO>     Retail sales: No
DO>     Discounts: approx. 30% off list for used discs. Price may be
DO>        higher if item is O/P and in demand.
DO>     Purchase: will purchase selected used discs for 60-70% off
DO> list.
DO>     Credit cards: no - checks or C.O.D. only
DO>     Warranty: He warrants them to be in good condition when you
DO>       receive them and will allow a "reasonable" time for you to
DO>       view them and discover defects (maybe one month).  For long
DO>       term laser rot you have to turn to LDCA or other
DO> distributor.
DO>     POSTAGE: included in price if 3 or more titles.
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DO> 
DO> #258 rec.games.video.arcade 4k
DO> From: 31ochs@gw.wmich.edu
DO> Subject: Re: Laserdisc Games
DO> Date: 12 Jul 92 07:16:16 GMT
DO> 
DO> 
DO> Looking at some old Electronic Games magazines, these are some of
> the laserdisc games in there:
> 
> Firefox by Atari
>  Incredible film footage,Clint Eastwood's voice,original music,
> stereo sound effects,and a headset jack work their magic to expand
> your total flying experience....(Taken from an ad on page 10 of
> Electronic Games)
> 
> Star Rider by Williams
>   uses VideoCel animations by Compter Creations instead of
> cartoons.
> 
> MACH 3 by Mylstar(successor of Gottlieb)
>   2 views possible, behind and overhead. In a ship destroying land
>   structures and flying ships.
> 
> Dragon's Lair by Don Bluth
>   Dirk the Daring must rescue Daphne from Singe the Dragon,
> features
>   cartoon animation.
> 
> Dragon's Lair II:Timewarp by Sullivan Bluth
rk the Daring mu again rescue Dam
>   the evil wizard Mordroc, using a time machine, he travels through
>   time in search of her. Also features cartoon animation.
> 
> Space Ace by Don Bluth
>   Dexter must rescue Kimmy from Borf, who is trying to take over
>   the world with his Infanto Ray. Dexter becomes hero Space Ace
>   now and then. Also is cartoon animation.
> 
> Astron Belt by Gremlin/Sega(later the game was picked up by
> Bally/Midway)
>   Star Wars type space game where you control a ship in outer
> space,
>   firing at other space craft, and also another scene had you
>   maneuvering thru a "maze" of rock caverns.
> 
> Laser Grand Prix by Taito
>   Patterned after Pole Position. It had a real race track with a
>   computer generated race car.
> 
> Some of the others you already mentioned, Thayers Quest, Time
> Traveler, etc I don't remember ever even seing Thayer's Quest,
> we have Time Traveler here at our local arcade, but it costs 75
> cents to play, and I haven't had the nerve to waste that much
> money on one game. I've played all the above I think, except Laser
> Grand Prix, which I never saw either. One other game I remember
> after Dragon's Lair was Super Don Quixote. I don't know who
> produced it, but it was probably Don Bluth, it looked like the
> same animation, and Don Quixote reminded you of Dexter from
> Space Ace. I don't remember seeing Cliff Hanger either(maybe
> only once) but a Truck Stop here has Mad Dog Mcree too.
> unfortunately it costs 1.00!!! I have played this one
> though. It had a large screen(at least 5' high) and large
> stereo Speakers. This one uses real footage, looks like an
> old western. The idea of this one is to rescue the mayor's
> daughter from Mad dog, and you use a gun to fight/protect
> yourself. You are aided by an old geezer who is a prospector. He
> gives you hints throughout the game.
> 
> A lot of the above info was taken from an old Electronic Games
> magazine, They had an article on new coin ops, and that was the
> year that every manufacturer was coming out with their own laser
> disc game. I was lucky and pulled that issue out first from my
> bookshelf(I had no idea which magazine it was in, and was lucky
> to find the right one first)
> 
> Well, I hope this helps ya.
> 
> Fred Ochs
> Western Michigan University
> 31ochs@gw.wmich.edu (VAX)
> ochs@sol.cs.wmich.edu (UNIX)
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> #272 rec.games.video.arcade 2k
> From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (The Blabbermouth Man)
> Subject: Re: Laserdisc Games
> Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1992 17:37:56 GMT
> 
> In article <1992Jul11.213942.135080@zeus.calpoly.edu>,
> claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight)) writes:
> > 
> Yes, I'm interested too...there was one game that I really
> thought was HOT and I haven't seen it in > 5 years...where
> you rode a jetcycle around on a three-d racetrack.  The
> background was laserdisk video [although they had to have
> used their own format, when you turned your cycle left and
> right the background moved left and right also.] and the
> cycles and other 'changing' elemets were overlayed computer
> animation.  What's the name of this game and who made it?
> >
> 
> STAR RIDER(?) by Williams.  It wasn't a different LD format,
> it was just that they only showed a portion of the image at
> any one time.  They would slile their "window" over the
> image as the overlayed cycle moved left and right on the
> track.  BTW, look out for the SINISTAR and JOUST cameos in
> the game!
> 
> Other LD games I remember:
> - COBRA COMMAND, by Data East: you drive a helicopter, trying
>   to destroy the enemy forces in ten missions.  Had a design
>   bug that allowed you to play forever.
> 
> - BEGA'S BATTLE, also from Data East.  Never seen the game
>   being played. It used animation from the Japanese animation
>   film HARMAGEDDON (a.k.a. GENMA TAISEN).
> 
> - CLIFF HANGER, by Stern: "Plot" game in the DRAGON'S LAIR
>   tradition. Used footage from the LUPIN III Japanese animation
>   movies (particularly from THE CASTLE OF CAGLIOSTRO).
> 
> - GALAXY 999, by ??.  Never seen the game, but heard about it.
>   Uses footage from the Japanese animation GALAXY EXPRESS 999.
> 
> - FIREFOX, by Atari.  Air combat game over LD-generated
>   backgrounds.
> 
> - M.A.C.H. 3, by ??  Another air comat game, this time with
>   emphasis in air-to-ground combat.  Had 1st person and
>   overhead modes.
> -- 
>                          E n r i q u e  C o n t y
>                      The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
>                            jester@ihlpl.att.com
>                 Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
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