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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Damage To Monitor Due To WHAT??? (OAK) HELP!
Date: 31 Dec 1992 09:27:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

whare@ac.dal.ca writes:
  +
  +Is anyone familiar with the OAK OTI-077 chip found
  +on OAK video cards? Are they ONLY for 486s? And if
  +so, will they damage monitors running on 386s?

No, they are not only for 386s.  The monitor is
independent of the processor.  We have had 386 and
486 boxes running this card (and others). 
  
  +If this is not the case, what could be the cause
  +of flashing on the screen, like MAJOR flickering
  +and a yellowing of whites? Anyone?

First, check you connections.  Esp. in the back of the
monitor.  Otherwise it sounds like your monitor is on
the way out.  The Oak card is a very cheap SVGA card
($40-$50) as far as these cards go.  The ones I have
support refresh rates up to 56 Hz or so, hence many 
people experience major flicker.  However, bad color has 
usually been either a bad connection or a bad monitor.

Try swapping other cards and see if the problem repeats.
You might also try to ask comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
(something like that).

Terry Chan
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Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
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From: rkimmel@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Kimmel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Ansi and MCI codes
Date: 31 Dec 1992 10:40:25 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

I'm working on a BBS program and am looking for information on programing
Ansi and MCI codes into the program.  CAn someone give me inforation on
books about those, or possibly some text files about them somewhere?
I'm programing the BBS in C, but am having trouble finding Ansi information.

Thank you.

Robert Kimmel

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: gcs@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg C. Steiner)
Subject: Joystick recommendations, request
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 22:30:55 GMT
Summary: Request for joystick recommendations
Keywords: joystick recommend


What is your recommendation for a joystick?  
I'll e-mail a summary to interested parties.

Please respond to my e-mail:
Greg Steiner
gcs@edsi.plexus.com
From: tchnd-au@garnet.berkeley.edu (Yuval Oren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Viruses & unwriteable disks (was Re: A Frank Discussion on Piracy (Flames, Anyone? : -P )
Date: 29 Dec 1992 21:38:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec29.192353.1308@microsoft.com> jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer) writes:
>And, btw, viruses are not the "real" reason microsoft moved to unwriteable
>disks - at least not for ms-dos - it's because of the number of folks who
>"accidently" trashed their originals, then needed to reinstall. Special
>drives which can write to a "write-protected" disk obviously exist (like
>our duplicators) but most folks don't have them.
>

If you got the software on 3.5's, couldn't you just put that little
tab thing in from another disk, put a virus on it, then take the tab
out?

-- 
________________________________________________________________________
|Yuval Oren						               |
|yuval@ocf.berkeley.edu     				               |
| "One spoiled green bird is worth two cooks in the other grass broth."|
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: ndit@pax.eunet.ch (NDIT)
Subject: Install Disk unknown by BIOS?
Organization: EUnet Login/Mailbox Service
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:51:52 GMT
From: rwong@manchego.cs.wisc.edu (Ronald Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Telix Terminal emulators
Date: 26 Dec 92 11:21:30 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <1794@ocpt.ccur.com> pechter@ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Pechter) writes:
[deleted]
>Telix doesn't pass the VTTEST test completely, it fails in the same place
>as MS-Kermit.
>
>The only thing I've seen that does it completely (I haven't seen most
>commercial VT emulators) is Softterm.  Softterm however has the worst
>user interface and file transfers.

Is `VTTEST' a program?

Could any netter give me some advice on any good book (or i general) about
terminal emulation?  I find different Unix system has different termcap
definition in /etc/termcap which make me puzzle.

Thanks in advance.


-- Ronald
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Using HD disks as DD disks
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:18:39 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.
Keywords: disks, disk drive

jeric@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Jeric Woo) writes:

>I have some high density 3.5" and 5.25" diskettes that I would like to
>use as low density diskettes.  However, whenever I attempt to format them
>(using low density drives) I get either the messages "Bad or Invalid Media"
>or the message "Track 0 Bad, Disk Unusable."

HD disks have a different media quality which requires a higher write
current signal in order to successfully write to the media.

Low density disks are cheap.  Go buy a box for $5.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: sri@storage.tandem.com (Sri Chandran)
Subject: MouseSystems Mouse Driver
Followup-To: comp.os.msdos.misc
Organization: Tandem
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:49:31 GMT


I have DOS 5.0 running in my machine - I have been using a MouseSystems
Optimouse with Windows 3.1.  I have a DOS application
which requires mouse support.  Can any one help me with the info about
where I can get this driver - The model for the mouse is M3.
Your help is appreciated in advance.  Please reply by EMAIL, if you can.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: nmiller@starbase.trincoll.edu (norman miller)
Subject: Telix and zmodem
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:28:47 GMT

I want to thank everyone who's written about the
problem I reported earlier.  And I especially
want to thank the person (I'm sorry to have mislaid
the message and the name) who suggested the answer:
                         rz -e
which works beautifully on my machine.

Norman Miller

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: dayja@ucunix.san.uc.edu (James A Day)
Subject: Re: Stac Software Customer Service (comments welcome)
Summary: Compression wrong
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:44:33 GMT

During the installation process it asks you how much to compress a
file(ie 2:1, 3:1) but even if you say 3:1 it still only compresses to
2:1 although the drive says differently install WordPerfect takes up
twice as much to install on the hard disk(or at least enough to cover
the fact that the compression of stacker doesn't work.)  Any suggestions
for solutions to this problem?
From: mkcummin@apgea.army.mil (M. Keath Cummings <mkcummin>)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Graphic File conversion
Date: 29 Dec 92 20:43:19 GMT
Organization: APG-Edgewood

Hello...

I have been on a quest for some time for a good Graphic File Conversion
utility that will execute through DOS.  I found a MS-Windows Application
called "Paint Shop Pro" that works pretty good...but due to a lack in
contiguos memory, I cannot do certain tasks.  I am restricted to only 4
megs of RAM, and with Windows, Paint Shop Pro, and my Graphic file all
loaded into memory, I am running a little short.  My question is:

"Can someone direct me to a Graphic Conversion Utility (namely .PCX to .GIF
format) that will run through DOS and that can be fully utilized with 4
megs of main memory?"

Thanks in advance!

-=[ Keath ]=-
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: bathurst@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Bruce Bathurst)
Subject: Re: Using HD disks as DD disks
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: disks, disk drive
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:40:13 GMT

This is a confusing subject.  I take it that trying to format the 3.5"
disk produces "Bad or Invalid Media" (sic) and trying the 5.25" gives
"Track 0 Bad, Disk Unusable" Put a piece of opaque tape over the notch
opposite the write-protect notch and a HD 3.5" diskette is DD is
wearing the clothes of DD and will format, read, and write DD.  The
only cure for the 5.25" disk is a kludge: put a 360K disk in the
drive, issue FORMAT, after DOS reads the boot record it says "...Press
RETURN to start" (or something) pull out the 360K and put in the 1.2
Mb disk.

The problem is this.  The 5.25" floppies double their capacity by
doubling the number of tracks.  Hence the wide read head of the lower
density drive can't read a single track, and it can't read the disk's
boot record.

The 3.5" floppies double their capacity by doubling the number of
sectors in a track.  Hence the track density is the same for DD and
HD, and the lower density drive will read the boot record without
problem.  Oh, no!  People can format HD disks in DD drives!  We'll put
a hole through the diskette case, so the machine will know there is a
floppy with a thin coating in the drive and will refuse to cooperate
with such unorthodox behavior.

This concern with improper use was explained nicely by the last
respondant (but which I'll expand on anyway). HD diskettes are coated,
like DD, but then polished more to reduce surface bumps that would
produce magnetic irregularities.  This thins the coating.  The lower
density drive is designed to penetrate a thick coating with magnetism;
when it does this to the thin coating, the magntic domains grow
sideways rather than downward and may interfere with other tracks.

Mother Industry protects us from such folly (though it may work).

Bruce (Gypsy Scholar)
-- 
Department of Geological and Geophysical Sciences
Princeton University, Princeton, NJ 08544
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Using HD disks as DD disks
Keywords: disks, disk drive
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:45:53 GMT

In <1hb8h7INN4t6@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> villalj@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (John Villalovos) writes:

>In article <1992Dec23.202219.114@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> evans1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Dan Evans) writes:
>>In article <jeric.67@berkp.uadv.uci.edu> jeric@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Jeric Woo) writes:
>>>I have some high density 3.5" and 5.25" diskettes that I would like to
>>>use as low density diskettes.  However, whenever I attempt to format them
>>>(using low density drives) I get either the messages "Bad or Invalid Media"
>>>or the message "Track 0 Bad, Disk Unusable."
>>>
>>>Why can't I do so?  Are the any other physical differences between high 
>>>density diskettes and low density diskettes (I know that 3.5" HD has a hole
>>>at the upper left hand corner, and that maybe HD disks has higher "surface
>>>density").  I even ran the diskettes through a magnet before formatting
>>>them, but still no luck.  Thanks!
>>>

>Yes there are physical differences in the media.  The differences are more
>apparent on 5.25" diskettes then on 3.5".

>>The LD drive heads are larger then the HD heads.  As a result the LD heads
>>are reading more then one track at a time on the HD disk. Track 0 isn't
>>bad, it's just smaller then the LD drive is capible of reading it.

>I don't believe that is correct.  If you look at a floppy disk they aren't
>composed of tracks of magnetic media.  The media is a continuous (sp?)
>coating on the disk.

You are correct; the preceding statement appears to be a
misunderstanding related to how the DRIVES write to the disks.  The HD
disks have a much higher coersivity(?) -- that is, they require a much
strong magnetic field to 'write' to the disk, and they hold less of a
field.  This is how narrower tracks can be written without
'bleedover'.  The weaker write field of the DD drive simply can't
write to the HD disk.  This is the case for 5.25" diskettes.

I always thought that the 3.5" diskettes were using the same media, so
I'm not sure why those would give a problem.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: A Frank Discussion on Piracy (Flames, Anyone? : -P )
Date: 28 Dec 92 07:49:14 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation
Distribution: usa

In article <rice.725054644@willow23> rice@zizania.cray.com writes:
>jdp@osric.cs.odu.edu (JD Powell) writes:
>
>>...and lenient return policies of the vendors they deal with.  Please post 
>>the names of these vendors for the rest of us....  Who are the good guys?
>
>Egghead Discount Software will accept returns of opened software.  I think
>the limit is 30 days.  

I don't want to cause a panic, and all resellers I've heard of are 
very careful, but, btw, viruses are also spread via returned-and-
re-shrinkwrapped software.

"Careful" translates to either "all returns go back to the manufactuerer"
or "all returns are scanned for viruses before being resold" (I am referrring
to undamaged returns).

A not-very-common windows 3.0 setup problem is caused by the windows original
disks being infected with a virus (microsoft is very careful about the
"health" of the master diskettes and even duplicates disks on machines
running xenix, so even if the duplicator gets infected it can't affect the
MS-DOS-based or Macintosh-based software on the disks).  Each case we know
about, the software had been installed previously on an infected system
(and sometimes returned, re-shrinkwrapped, and re-sold). No such problem is
known about windows 3.1. Windows 3.0 shipped on writable disks; windows 3.1
(and the ms-dos 5 upgrade, and most new products being released) are shipped
on "permanently" write-protected disks.  

From a support standpoint, this is seriously cool (unless the user cut
a notch in a set of 5.25"s, no viruses, no accidently-deleted-the-file-we
-need, etc :)

-jen
Xref: sparky comp.os.msdos.misc:6701 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:5700
From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Subject: Re: Using HD disks as DD disks
Keywords: disks, disk drive
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:54:52 GMT

evans1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Dan Evans) writes:
>jeric@berkp.uadv.uci.edu (Jeric Woo) writes:
>>I have some high density 3.5" and 5.25" diskettes that I would like to
>>use as low density diskettes.  However, whenever I attempt to format them
>>(using low density drives) I get either the messages "Bad or Invalid Media"
>>or the message "Track 0 Bad, Disk Unusable."

>The LD drive heads are larger then the HD heads.  As a result the LD heads
>are reading more then one track at a time on the HD disk. Track 0 isn't
>bad, it's just smaller then the LD drive is capible of reading it.

    There's an additional purely mechanical problem with using 5 1/4" HD 
disks in DD drives. DD 5 1/4" disks have a reinforcing "hub ring" that 
provides a thicker handle for DD drives to grab onto. HD disks do not 
have such a ring, so when you stick your HD disk in that DD drive there's 
a strong possibility that the disk won't be seated in the exact same 
alignment that it was when the data was originally written. Repeatedly 
removing and reinserting the disk will get you there eventually, but it's 
a bad idea as far as long term storage is concerned. If you're doing this 
to be able to exchange data with PCs that only have 360K drives then 
get yourself a bunch of real 360K floppies. You might even want to install 
a real 360K drive in a "media translation" machine so that you can write 
your 360K disks in a way that practically guarantees no hitches.

--
Nathan Engle                        Software Juggler
Psychology Department               Indiana University
nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu      nengle@copper.ucs.indiana.edu
From: leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: IBM XT upgrade
Keywords: XT
Date: 31 Dec 92 12:41:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Dec31.124152.8371
Reply-To: Leonard.Erickson@f51.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

slc@a2.cim.cdc.com (Steve Chesney x4662) writes:

>At my wife's job (a church) she is obligated to use a vintage IBM XT with
>a 10 meg hard disk, color display and IBM PC-DOS 2.10.  
>Since she is used to our 386, it seems slow to her.  Are there any cheap and
>simple upgrades that we could try to alleviate this?  I am considering:

>upgrade to MS-DOS 5.0

Using anything past DOS 3.31 on an XT is just a waste of RAM. There's
nothing that DOS 5 can do on an XT that DOS 3.31 can't. And 3.31 uses
*noticeably* less RAM.

>use of a disk cache

Without an EMS board there's nowhere to *put* the cache except in 
the 640k that everything else is trying to use. So you'd increase the
performance at the cost of breaking any RAM hungry software!

>Any other ideas? 

Shop around for an old EMS board. There are a lot of 8-bit only ones that
won't run at anything above 8 MHz bus speed. They're often available for
under $20 (without ram, but then the 256k chips (or even 64k!!) thery use
are *very* cheap)

Adding one will give a place for many programs to swap to, and allow you
to have things like a cache. The swapping will make a *major* performance
difference to any program that can use the EMS!

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: mario@leonardo.et.tudelft.nl (Mario Konijnenburg)
Subject: Re: ANSI ESC sequence, how??
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 08:11:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.195236.28511@netcom.com>, mjb@netcom.com (Martin Brown) writes:
> I have ansi.sys installed, and have received some ansi msg's that seem to be
> working.  Now that I want to do some ansi coding, I can't figure out how to
> actually enter (which keys to push) the 'esc' part of the sequence.  I'm trying
> to do this at the command prompt.
> 
> Take for instance changing the screen background to blue.  The manual shows:
> 
>      ESC[44m
> 
> What keys do I actually hit to get the ESC (or is it ESC[ ?) part of the line.
> If I hit the Esc key, I get a  \ followed by a cr/lf, so that the 44m comes on
> the next line.  I hit return, and DOS says command not recognized.
> 
> I believe I've tried all permutations ctrl,alt,shift,-Esc with no joy.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated!
> 
> Thanx!
> 
> Have a HAPPY HOLIDAY!!
>  
> -- 
> 
>                                    - mjb -
> 
>                                 mjb@netcom.com
> 

You can't use the ANSI-codes directly at the command-prompt.
To change the screen background line use the 'prompt' command.
When you type at your command-prompt: 

	prompt  $e[44m $p$g
                
the screen background line will change to blue.

$e is ASCII code 27 (=escape character).
$p shows the working directory of the default drive
$g shows the ASCII character '>'

See your dos-manual for more codes of the 'prompt'-command

greetings, Mario Konijnenburg

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: istuart@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian Stuart)
Subject: Re: ANSI ESC sequence, how??
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: inet
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 18:44:42 GMT

People have been asking about programming ANSI escape sequences..

Well, I've got a copy of the (Free with PC Magazine) 212 Power DOS Tips! :-)

Page 61 says exactly what everyone else is saying: No Can Do From DOS.
If you are in an editor (but not all editors - Edit or Wordstar had been
tested, and I would guess any ASCII editor would do) "ESC" is entered as
"CTRL-P ESC", and displayed as "^[". Therefor "ESC[2J" (Clear Screen) is
entered as "CTRL-P[2J", and displayed as "^[[2J".

They give a solution to this (Page 62):

	Often, a small utility program is convinient when creating
	ANSI sequences in batch jobs. ANSAY is just such a program
	and can be created as follows:

	COPY con temp.hex
	:100100008A0E800081E17F007416497413BB82005F
	:100110008A174380FA247502B21BB406CD21E2F09F
	:10012000B8004CCD210000000000000000000000DD
	:00000001FF
	<F6>
	Debug temp.hex
	r cx
	25
	n ANSAY.COM
	w
	q

	The part up to <F6> (designating that the F6 key be pressed)
	creates a hexidecimal file, and the debug part turns this
	HEX file into ANSAY.COM
	Ansay.com is a program which behaves exactly like the Echo,
	but turns every occurance of the '$' character into an
	escape. Batch jobs containibg Ansay commands can be written
	with any editor, and can be printed.

This means that the example above (Clear Screen) is:

	ansay $[2J

They also give ways of using EDLIN and DEBUG to write short scripts that
can be 'TYPE'd to feed ansi commands to the console, but I don't think
that that is what you are after.

Hope this helps one and all - And may '93 be a colourfull year (and please
don't Drink And Drive!)

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--- Kiz (aka Ian Stuart) istuart@nyx.cs.du.edu
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