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From: rogerr@netcom.COM (roger reynolds)
Subject: RDD version 2 now available
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:33:44 GMT


	As promised some time ago (sorry for the delay), a new version
	of RDD is available.

	Here is what is new:
		- Ability to drag around a pixmap.  This makes for a much
		  more "real" looking drag action.
		- Ability to specify an arbitrary data type in the Rdd Client 
		  message.  For example, you can tell the guy you are dropping
		  on that the data is a "filename" or "pixmap" or whatever...
		- Ability to start a drag-n-drop sequence from a callback
		  routine.
		- A couple of bug fixes.

	The new version is available on export.lcs.mit.edu in the contrib
	directory.  The file is rdd2.tar.Z
	It was also posted to alt.sources.

	As usual, your comments on how you are using rdd, and how well it 
	works are most welcomed!

	rogerr@netcom.com
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:17706 comp.windows.open-look:4088
From: stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.openlook,comp.windows.open-look
Subject: MIT X11 under OpenWindows 3.0
Keywords: X11 OpenWindows MIT X-Windows
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:12:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Usenetters,

I have a requirement for two X11 files:

/usr/local/lib/X11/libX11.a
/usr/include/X11/X.h


I need them to compile free "SUIT" software (a GUI front-end),
which requires these two X11 files.

Does anyone know where I can get them?  (I do have FTP access).

I have SunOS 4.1.2 with OpenWindows v3 which has its own
implementation of X.  I cannot find the associated X11 files
in OpenWindows v3.

Any suggestions would be helpful.

I will post the results if there is any interest.

Steve Davidson
steved@cfcl.com
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:17743 comp.windows.x.apps:1251
From: fengstad@xi.uleth.ca (Grant Fengstad)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: X11 Clients for SCO ODT
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:51:07 GMT
Organization: University of Lethbridge


I have seen many binary formats for Sun, HP, IBM and Dec, but alas,
nothing for SCO.  I'd like to get programs such as Xloadimage, but since
I do not have the Development System, I can not build the sources
myself.

I'm sure that there must be a lot of others in much the same situation.

Can anyone point me in a direction for an Anonymous FTP site that may
have SCO binaries?

Thanks.

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From: handeli@phoenix.ocf.llnl.gov (David I Handeli)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: window behavior
Keywords: window manager behavior
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:57:03 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

I am running a Sun SPARC station with an X-server. I experience
a problem when I run either twm or mwm. I have both a color
and monochrome monitor on my Sun. When I have the mouse on the color
monitor, everything is fine. When I put the mouse on the monochrome
monitor, the color screen whites out. Does anyone have any insight
on what is the difficulty? thanks in advance.
From: adrian@ora.COM (adrian)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X Protocol
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:15:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: spike.9210091715.AA00956
Organization: The Internet


> >Try 'X Protocol Reference Manual' pub. O'Reilly & Associates ISBN 1-56592-008-2
> >
> >This is volume 0 of a series of X manuals that also covers Xlib.
>
> Volume 0 especially looks a lot like Scheifler's Standard for the X
> protocol. You may want to look at the version that comes with
> X before you buy this particular O'Reilly book.
> -Ekr

Just to clarify, Vol 0 has two sections, a 30 page introduction
to the protocol that I wrote, and then the protocol itself.
The protocol is exactly the same as Scheifler's standard which is
available online, except reorganized into manpages.  The online 
version has the specification and encoding in separate documents.  Our 
book has the specification and encoding of each request on the same 
manpage.  I feel it is more convenient that way.

*************************************************************
Adrian Nye (314) 531-1231    Editor, The X Resource
O'Reilly & Associates, Inc., Publishers of Nutshell Handbooks
4466 West Pine Blvd.  20-G   St. Louis MO 63108
Internet:   adrian@ora.com    	UUCP:   uunet!ora!adrian      
*************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r3
From: jtsilla@damon.ccs.northeastern.edu (James Tsillas)
Subject: Re: XFree86 server bombing
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 13:10:39 GMT


In article <1992Oct11.063857.362@timesink.chi.il.us> mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec) writes:

   Xref: random.ccs.northeastern.edu comp.windows.x:18037 comp.unix.sysv386:15614 comp.unix.sys5.r3:28
From: greg@thirdi.uucp (Greg Holmberg)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: keysym problems transporting X/motif application
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:43:21 GMT
Reply-To: greg@thirdi.UUCP (Greg Holmberg)
Distribution: na
Organization: Third Eye Software, Menlo Park, CA

In article <1992Oct9.055505.5100@scubed.com> stevens@scubed.com (Jeff Stevens) writes:
	
	I am trying to transfer an executable program (X11R5patch16,
	motif1.1.4) to another site.  It works fine on our local
	network, but at the remote site I get errors like:

	Warning: translation table syntax error: Unknown keysym name:
	osfUp Warning: ... found while parsing '
	<Key>osfUp:        ManagerGadgetTraverseUp()'

	Usually this warning means that the program can't find the
	XKeysymDB file.  Both locations have this file in
	/usr/lib/X11.  On the local network, however, on which X and
	motif were compiled, /usr/lib/X11 is a symbolic link to
	/usr/local/x11r5/lib.  Does this error result because X or
	motif remembers this local name? Is there a way to point the
	application to the right location through an environment
	variable or xset command?  If so, I can't find it in the
	documentation.  If not, how do you create a portable
	application that doesn't require files to always be in the same
	location?


The path to XKeysymDB is compiled into the executable, but not from the
Motif library, from the X library.  The default path compiled into
mit/lib/X/XStrKeysym.c is /usr/lib/X11/XKeysymDB.  You can have your
applications look elsewhere by setting the XKEYSYMDB environment
variable.

A more likely cause of the warnings is that, although it can find the
file, it doesn't contain the osf keysyms.  These are part of the
VirtualBindings(3XM) mechanism Motif uses. They are usually appended to
the XKeysymDB by the Makefile in motif/lib/Xm (during installation).
You should send these entries along with your application to the new
site for them to append there.

Also don't forget to send them a .motifbind file appropriate to their X
server for them to put in their home directory.  You'll find these
files in the bindings directory of the Motif source tree.  They're
usually loaded by mwm onto a property on the server.  If your site
isn't using mwm, you'll need another utility to load the bindings.  I
posted one recently to this newsgroup, Subject: "Re: Running Motif
application without Motif".
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: cjsv@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Christopher JS Vance)
Subject: multiple session management and xrooms
Keywords: or alternative
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:00:49 GMT

I recently compiled xrooms from comp.sources.x volume 5 on a SUN Sparc running
SunOS 4.1.2 and MIT X11 R5.

After fixing the problem with the missing routine from mit/lib/X/XlibInt.c,
as per somebody's recent posting, I had something that appeared to run, but
kept segment faulting after not very long.

Is there a newer version of this program or something else available without
cost which performs a similar function?  Something that actually works?

Currently I'm using tvtwm and moving around a larger desktop, but having
several distinct sessions running at the same on the same display and being
able to switch between them would be nice.

-- Christopher
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,sci.bio,comp.sys.next.misc,alt.graphics
From: beddow@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Final Announcement: IEEE Vis 92
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:10:55 GMT



Final Announcement
IEEE Visualization '92 Conference

Boston Park Plaza Hotel
19-23 October 1992

    Scientific Visualization is an important research frontier shared by
a variety of computational science & engineering fields.  Visualization
work is both interdisciplinary and a field of its own right.  This
conference focuses on interdisciplinary methods and supports
collaboration among the developers and users of visualization
methods across science, engineering, and commerce.

The conference includes the following sessions:

Keynote Address: "High Performance Computing and
Communications"

Keynote Panel: "Interactions Between Science and Visualization"

Tutorials:
    Volume Visualization
    Virtual Environment
    Visual Perception for Visualization and Image Processing
    Color Theory and Models
    Topology, Vector Fields, and Flows
    Automating the Design of Effective Graphics
    Visualization of Multidimensional and Multivariate Data

Workshops

Panels:
    Managing Large Scientific Data Bases
    Grand Challenge Problems in Visualization Software
    Improving visualization:  Perceptual Foundations
    Real Virtual Environments Applications - Now
    Visualization in the Neurosciences
    Object-Oriented Dataflow Visualization Systems

Paper Sessions:
    Volume Visualization
    Flow Visualization
    Surface Visualization
    Visualization Systems
    Data Structures
    Visual Programming
    Visualization Software Systems
    Visualization Techniques and Methods
    Terrain Visualization

Case Studies Sessions on Physics, Life Sciences, the Environment, and
Fluid Dynamics

Special Sessions:
    Research Problems in Visualization
    How to Lie and Confuse With Visualization

Capstone Address:  "Parallel Processing of Form, color, Motion, and
Depth:  Anatomy, Physiology, Art, and Illusion"

For more information, call the VIS92 phone, (510) 423-9368
or
Haim Levkowitz, (508) 934-3654, haim@cs.ulowell.edu

For publicity information please contact
Jeff Beddow
beddow@staff.tc.umn.edu
From: ccnjb@bristol.ac.uk (Nick Bruton)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: FAQ
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:30:11 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

Please could someone point me to the FAQ for this group
Thanks Nick Bruton
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: vamsee@abgen.tamu.edu (Vamsee Lakamsani)
Subject: FAQ ???, displaying a client simaltaneously on two or more servers.
Organization: Center for Macromolecular Design, Texas A&M University.
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:05:38 GMT

How can I display a remote client simaltaneously on two or more 
display servers ? The client is invoked on a CRAY YMP  and  must
be displayed simaltaneously on a bunch of Silicon Graphics Workstations.

Thanks
vamsee
From: rcivan@rwb.urc.tue.nl (Ivan Saez)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Keybinding problem
Keywords: Keys
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:32:01 GMT
Reply-To: rcivan@urc.tue.nl


Hello,

I am trying to redefine the Shift-F3 key combination. It should produce a esc-
sequence : \eO. I edited my .Xdefaults file to contain then nex statement :


...........
...........
*Text.translations:       Shift<Key>0xff53:	forward-word()\n\
        Shift<Key>0xffc0: string("0x1b") string("Os")\n\
...........
...........

My problem is that it wont work. Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance.


 P.S. :  I did a xrdb -load .Xdefaults 
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Computing Centre 1.62,  +31 40 474428
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E-Mail: rcivan@urc.tue.nl
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: pixels values: how to get them from canvas
Keywords: pixel
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:52:22 GMT
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

In article <1992Oct9.140835.1012@sol.cs.wmich.edu> 52kaiser@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Matthew Kaiser) writes:
>how does someone find the value of a certain pixel on a canvas
>within a X window application?

Do XGetImage on a 1x1 image, then use XGetPixel to
retrieve the pixel value from the image.  

You might actually do better to use XGetImage just once,
then thereafter use XGetSubImage, to save the overhead
of creating the tiny little XImage structure each time
you retrieve a pixel value.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: emmerik@utrcu1.civ.utwente.nl (Emmerik P.J.L. van)
Subject: How to crash the X server under Openwindows 3?
Organization: University of Twente
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:44:09 GMT

I am able to crash the X server under openwindows 3 on a
SUN Sparc station 1, On an IPC under Openwindows 2 all works fine.
The program i am using is BIG and so is the data file i am using, so
here's my question:
Does anyone have a hint how to crash the X server or where to start
looking?
Does anyone have experince whith a core dumping X server?

Pleace Email to emmerik@utwente.nl
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From: grape@suned1.Nswses.Navy.MIL (Mike Grapevine)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Desqview/X Motif
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:38:09 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Has anybody out there used the Motif development kit
supplied for use with Desqview/X yet? I'm wondering
how good it is in relation to a UNIX based Motif
development package.

	        Michael D. Grapevine            | If it ain't broken,
        USN SWC                         |   that doesn't mean
        Code 4L32                       |   it won't konk out at
        grape@suned1.nswses.navy.mil    |   the most inopportune
        grape@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil      |   time.
From: sd344@city.ac.uk (SHARPE P A)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Answerbook without NeWS
Summary: Want to use answerbook without NeWS
Keywords: answerbook
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:51:42 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: The City University

Does anyone know if you can get Sun's AnswerBook working without running
NeWS.  I heard someone had done it.

email: sd344@city.ac.uk

-- 
Paul Sharpe, Unix System Programmer, City University

+44 (0)71 477 8000 x3758
Internet: P.A.Sharpe@city.ac.uk
From: bthompso@reed.edu (Benjamin Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.apps
Subject: Re: X based world clock anyone??
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:30:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Oct8.083056.4698
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Oct6.124038.25294@atlastele.com> brians@atlastele.com (Brian Sheets) writes:
>I am looking for an X based world clock. Does anyone have such an
>animal???
>-- 
>Brian Sheets				"TRUCK?! What truck?"
>153 N. Hayden Bay Dr.			 
>Portland, Or 97217			   -Raiders of the Lost Ark

Brian,
	One program that I use everyday and suits my needs is
sunclock.  It can be found at export.lcs.mit.edu in /contrib I
believe.  It may not be quite what you want, but it does show you
which part of the earth is lit and which is not.  A real snazzy
feature is that it will update an icon of itself if you have a window
manager that supports updatable icons.  Please inform me if you find
any other suitable "world clocks"


-- 
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bthompso@reed.edu                     I go to Reed College --- You can trust me
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: yuri@physics.heriot-watt.ac.UK (Yuri Rzhanov)
Subject: Imake on DEC?
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:44:08 GMT


Hi X-perts,

could someone explain me how to write correct Imakefile
on DEC workstation 5000/25 ?

The problem is: I need to link some unusual libraries (like
libXpm.a, my own, etc.). On Sun, I defined them as LOCAL_LIBRARIES
and everything was fine. But on DEC, the target depends not only
on $(SRCS) but also on $(DEPLIBS) which are defined to be equal
to $(LOCAL_LIBRARIES). So every time I'm trying to build my code
it says just before linking stage that it doesn't know how to rebuild
the libraries. What should I do? Now I defined my libraries as
EXTRA_LIBRARIES, and it works (thanks God), but I have a feeling
that it's not correct. 

I'm seeking the professional advise: is it a proper way to define
alien libraries on DEC or not? If it is, why there is such a
difference with Sun? Is it possible to write an Imakefile which
will work on both platforms without alterations ? (Now I have to
include something like #ifdef SunArchitecture to do that.

Thanks in advance,
	Yuri

yuri@uk.ac.hw.phy
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: lefortp@dxcern.cern.ch (Pierre LEFORT)
Subject: Help on  X property
Organization: CERN
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:14:21 GMT

Hi everybody,

I have an application with many processes running on different displays and
using X property to communicate.
My application was working fine until one or two weeks ago when I realised
that my process reading the property was growing. 

For testing, I do a malloc just before the
XGetWindowProperty with the same size of the property and I get an address, 
then I free it, and the XGetWindowProperty call returns a different address.
What is strange, is that my program works fine for a while, and then it begins
to grow each time it calls XGetWindowProperty.

A previous version of my application that I recompiled and which uses the
same mechanism works fine.

Have anybody had this problem before ?

I am using an HP730 running HP-UX 8.05 and X11R4 (and Motif 1.1)

Thank you,

            Pierre LEFORT (lefortp@dxcern.cern.ch)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

/ hpuerca:comp.windows.x / jf1@forth.stirling.ac.UK (Mr Jonathon Fletcher) / 10:01 am  Oct  5, 1992 /

A problem - I am having some difficulty with a piece of code that make use of 
the Xt Timout calls (XtAddTimeOut). The code compiles fine, links fine, and
appears to execute fine, but the timeouts are just not called. I am using
an HP 700/RX xterm, with (what I think is) a release 4 server, Motif 1.1,
and release 8.05 of HP-UX, and release 4 libraries. I have moved the code
across to a different machine, runing release 7 of HP-UX, Motif 1.0, 
and a release 3 server (release 4 libraries), where it compiles and
executes correctly (ie the timeouts are called) without any problems. Can
anyone offer me suggestions as to what is going wrong ? Please email to
me and I will summarise to the net.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Try using XtAppAddTimeOut instead of XtAddTimeout and explicitly
pass in an application context.  This function appeared in X11R4 and
should be used for maximum portability.

Anne Gale


Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: g89r4281@alpha.ru.ac.za (Pundarik Ranchod)
Subject: Transputer based X server
Summary: Info wanted on Transputer based X server
Keywords: X server transputer
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Distribution: 'world'
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:48:01 GMT

Hello all,

As I understand it, a X server is available on transputers, but only
under Helios. I am interested in a standalone transputer based X server.
Is this possible? Is there any work being done on a parallel implementation
of the X server? 

Any information would be welcome. Books, papers, e-mail addresses and any
other details on the subject would be appreciated.

Please send replies to g89r4281@alpha.ru.ac.za .

Thanx for you time.

Pundarik.
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From: GJAMES@HUSKY1.STMARYS.CA (GJames)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for X on IBM-PC (ya, i've been thru' FAQ!)
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:02:19 GMT
Organization: Saint Mary's University

In article <izeek.719077132@techunix.technion.ac.il> izeek@techunix.technion.ac.il (Ilan Aisic) writes:

>mece25q@elroy.uh.edu (Pakala, Rama R.) writes:

>>I have gone thru' the FAQ list of X servers for IBM-PCs.  I would like to
>>hear from netters about their experiences with X servers on IBM-486s. Especially
>>the problems you have had, if any.
>>That would help me greatly in choosing  from the list.
>>Thanks.
>>Rama Pakala.
>>mece25q@jetson.uh.edu

>I think DESQview/X is definitely the winner these days.  
>I believe it's the only full X Window system while all the rest
>are just X servers for the PC.  I saw the demo in UNIX Expo last
>October and was really impressed.  I own a copy of the last 
>version of X11/AT and I sincerely recommend against it. 
>One more thing: Like almost all other heavy applications, you'll 
>enjoy it only if you run on a high-end 386/486 PC.

>Ilan Aisic
>           In Israel                            In the USA:
>Voice:   972-4-344474                         1-914-644-7710
>Fax:     972-4-342492                         1-914-644-7763
>E-mail:  izeek@techunix.technion.ac.il        ilan@allink.com


Sure its great if you only want to run in 800x600 in 16 colors. Try running 
sun net manager and see what happens.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Help w/ Motif 1.1/XllR4!!!!
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 22:27:55 GMT
Organization: VMark Software, Inc.

Alright folks..  I have a couple of questions.  I have an application that 
works at Rel. 3, Motif 1.0.  I am in the process of porting over to Rel. 4
and Motif 1.1 and have 2 remaining problems that have got me stuck at the 
moment.  Here they are, any help would be greatly appreciated...

1)  When using XmCreateScrolled(Text/List)() widgets, everything works fine
with 1 exception.  That is, whenever I click the button in the scrollbar
region, the focus traverses to the next control.  This happens regardless of
where control is set, and regardless of where within the scrollbar region
I click in.  And, it always traverses forward (to the next control).  This
same code works at Rel.3, Motif 1.0.  I am not doing anything (that I can
think of) that is tying a Callback to it.  Any suggestions???

2)  Also when using the XmCreateScrolledText() widget, if I create a large
widget that does not fit on the form, at Motif 1.1 the widget comes out very
small (trying to get a 40x20, I get about 12x6 or so).  If I resize the form
before I create the widget, it works fine.  If the form starts out big enough,
but I shrink it before creation, if fails.  If I use XmCreateText() instead,
it works either way.  Also, it only seems to happen to big widgets, as I
also create another scrolled text widget, but much smaller (8x8 or so), and
it has about half of it off the form, it works fine.  

Help?!?!?!?!

Dave Meeks
e-mail: davem@uvmark.com


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