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From: mark@bilpin.co.uk (Mark Allerton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Transmutation
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:57:27 GMT
Reply-To: mark@bilpin.co.uk (Mark Allerton)
Organization: UK Mac DTS

>"Transmutation (Mutatis Mutandis). Praxis. 

Yeah... I've got this. It's interesting in places, but not nearly as good as the line-up 
might suggest. Praxis is really a Bill Laswell project - and though it has it's 
moments, if you bought it on the basis that it's got Bootsy on it, you might be 
shocked. The first couple of tracks are pretty wild, but after that it gets progressively 
less interesting, ending with the *16 minute* tedium of "After Shock (Chaos Never 
Died)". Laswell's done much better, Bootsy's done much better...

Mark Allerton
UK Mac DTS - mark@bilpin.co.uk
From: zonnevel@dutiws.tudelft.nl (622622)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: jazz funk and the P
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:12:04 GMT
Organization: T W I, Delft University of Technology

Jazzfunk: Try the Blackbyrds (I only got a greatest hits disc)

European dates I know of are in the Netherlands in november:
1st          MECC, Maastricht 
2nd and 3rd  Paradiso, Amsterdam (I'll be bumping at the stage!)

About P-funk CD's: I only saw these in store (didn't buy em cause they're
                   way off my budget (yet ;-).
	Quazar		- Quazar
	Bernie Worrell	- All the Woo in the world


BTW The new Prince disc sucks! It's totally unfunky.

... Funkin (not with Prince though ;-)

 'Peace Y'all. I'm at:   zonnevel@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl    YO  Peace Increase
 'Freedom is free of the need to be free' - George Clinton YO     from me 
 'With love there is no death' - Prince                    YO    FunkyTrip 
YOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYOYO
From: jeclee@uncc.edu (Jeffrey Charles Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: clinton and Computer games
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:07:07 GMT
Reply-To: jeclee@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

In article 3947@jabaru.cec.edu.au, d06448@tanus.oz.au (Argyrios Karavis) writes:
>Computer Games came out in about 85/86 and had Atomic Dog on it. Definitely
>his best album since the mid 70's and the Parliament albums. Pity he hasn't
>done anything as good since. Poor George has a bad habit of having one or two
>killer tracks and the rest being rather poor and nasty
>
>Choc freak
>
>INET: d06448@tanus.oz.au


While "Computer Games" is undoubtedly a masterwork, George's other solo
albums are not as bad as you would seem to suggest. I would say that
"You shouldn't Nuf Bit Fish" and "R & B Skeletons in the Closet" are
just as good as "Games", although as concepts they do not seem to
cohere as well. I suppose that the closest comparison that could be
made would be to the difference between Randy Newman's "12 Songs" and
"Sail Away". Both are excellent albums in their way, and neither is any
less essential than the other. These albums portray different aspects
of the artist.


"We are all out to lunch.... You and I are just eating at different
counters."
					- George Clinton


By the way, the album "Who's a Funkadelic" is indeed the long lost and
best forgotten LAX "Connections and Disconnections" album which, in the
words of Robert Christgau, "... is enjoyable only if you forget who
these guys (Fuzzy Haskins et. al.) say they are."
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From: rojohnso@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: Prince & Rosie FEUD??
Originator: rojohnso@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:45:49 GMT

Hey....
        First of all I want to say that Prince's new album is all that! But
there may be some who disagree...Prince could sing the alphabet, for all Im
concerned and Id love it...But my question is, what is all this Im hearing
about a feud between Prince and Rosie?? I never heard anything like that..
Im actually surprised she is gone, because Ive heard Prince has offered her
several times in the past to go solo, and she was also in the middle of a 
bidding war between record companies, but she reportedly turned it down saying
she would rather stay with Prince than to go solo...Anyway, tell me about the
feud.. 

                                                 Peace,
                                                   Ron Johnson
PS Anybody hear Sade's new single?? Im in the middle of Long Island rigt now, 
with no reception to city stations, so if it isnt a pop ditty, best believe
these stations wont be playing it!
From: kiess@i30fs1.ira.uka.de (Heiko Kiessling)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Prince's New Album Sucks!
Date: 14 Oct 1992 08:35:54 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kiess@ira.uka.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: i30s20.ira.uka.de

In article <1992Oct14.044751.9476@wam.umd.edu>, lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:
|> I have everything by Prince, but from now on, I'm NEVER buying another Prince  
|> album ... I HATE when he does this!
|> 
|> Donald - Nigger Stompin' African!

Uhm, doing what? I really like Prince's new album a lot. It's much better than its
two predecessors. My favourite is 'I wanna melt with u'. This song is truely
ingenious.
-- 
  Heiko
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From: lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat)
Subject: Re: Robert Owens/Martha Wash
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:23:33 GMT

I love Robert Owens, but I don't know what he's been up to lately.

But MARTHA's new thing is IN THERE!  It's SLAMMIN'!  It's called "Carry On".  i  
don't know who produced, but it's one of the flyest house tunes I've heard in a  
while!   Yeeeeooooowwww!

Donald - Nigger Stompin' African!
From: cs125b55@eng-nxt02.cso.uiuc.edu (cs125 student)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Whats acid jazz?
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:21:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvvHzK.EK4
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <92281.171611KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> Karl Nordstrom writes:  Whats  
Acid-Jazz and what are some good examples of it?

From what I hear, Acid-Jazz is Jazz meets Hip Hop.  An example includes
one from Miles Davis. I don't know the title, but it features a rapper.

I think that Acid-Jazz is okay, but I prefer Jazz-House (House music with
a touch of jazz).  An example include Terry Hunter's "Jazzaphone."  I'm
interested in Jazz-House, so if anyone out there have any info or would
like to share their interests in House/Techno, e-mail me

					Techno Houser
					wwc56110@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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From: timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu (Timothy Buck)
Subject: Re: Prince & Rosie FEUD??
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 03:20:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.234549.3328@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rojohnso@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:
>concerned and Id love it...But my question is, what is all this Im hearing
>about a feud between Prince and Rosie?? I never heard anything like that..
>Im actually surprised she is gone, because Ive heard Prince has offered her

According to a recent snippet in Billboard, Rosie Gaines recently signed a
recording contract with Paisley Park.

Tim Buck
   rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu        Recognition Research, Inc.
   timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu         Blacksburg, VA  24060
   ------------------- Standard disclaimers apply -------------------
-- 

Tim Buck
   rri!tim@vtserf.cc.vt.edu        Recognition Research, Inc.
   timbuck@borg.lib.vt.edu         Blacksburg, VA  24060
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From: pjebsen@well.sf.ca.us (Peter Jebsen)
Subject: New: George Clinton Family Series CD
Keywords: P.Funk Clinton Bootsy
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:47:02 GMT


Just out in Europe (Castle Communications) and Japan (Blues Interactions): A
CD compilation by "George Clinton & Family" (as far as I remember, they used
the name "P.Funk All Stars - Family Series" in Japan), featuring the following
tracks:

1) Parliament: Go For Yer Funk (1980 / feat. Funkadelic, Bootsy Collins, Horny
   Horns, James Brown - just this song is worth the price of the album!)
2) Sterling Silver Starship: Funk It Up (1981)
3) Gary Fabulous & Black Slack: Funkin' For My Mama's Rent (1980/81 / lead
   vocals: Michael Hampton)
4) Jessica Cleaves: Send A Gram (1980/81 - killer ballad, another highlight)
5) Who In The Funk Do You Think You Are (1981 / demo feat. Sly Stone + Ron
   Ford)
6) Andre Foxxe: Better Days (1984)
7) Bootsy Collins: The Chong Show (1979/80 / most instruments by David
   Spradley)
8) Flastic Brain Flam: Michelle (1978/79 / one of the first songs by Clinton's
   son Tracy "Tray Lewd" Lewis - he was 15, 16 years old)
9) A Funkadelic The One And Only Blackbyrd Period!!!: Sunshine Of Your Love
   (1984 / yes, the Cream song...)

Several of the songs sound like unfinished demos but the best ones definitely
make up for it. Four or five additional Family Series albums will follow -
Clinton still has a lot of great stuff waiting in his vaults. Some of the
tracks I have listened to sound as good as any mid- to late 70's Funkadelic +
Parliament.

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From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: Sade
Originator: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:15:04 GMT


Anyone hear Sade's new single?  I havent, does it sound promising??

                                           Peace
                                             RJ
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From: vek@spacsun.rice.edu (Vincent E. Kargatis)
Subject: Re: Prince's New Album Sucks!
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:37:18 GMT

lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:
>I have everything by Prince, but from now on, I'm NEVER buying another Prince  
> album ... I HATE when he does this!

Does what? The album's great! Not everything is perfect - 'm not crazy
about "The Flow" or "3 Chains O' Gold", but there's some slamming stuff on
here, folks.
-- 
| Vincent Kargatis                      |  "It was jump or die."              |
| Dept. of Space Physics and Astronomy  |                                     |
| Rice University, Houston, TX          |      Marilyn Crispell to Anthony    |
| [vek@spacsun.rice.edu]                |        Braxton on his Comp. 69C     |
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From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis)
Subject: Re: Prince's New Album Sucks!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:51:27 GMT

In article <Bw3p66.6nz@rice.edu> vek@spacsun.rice.edu (Vincent E. Kargatis) 
writes:
>lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:
>>I have everything by Prince, but from now on,I'm NEVER buying another Prince
>> album ... I HATE when he does this!
My initial reaction was very similar...

>Does what? The album's great! Not everything is perfect - 'm not crazy
>about "The Flow" or "3 Chains O' Gold", but there's some slamming stuff on
>here, folks.

'3 Chains o' gold' sounds like a princed up bohemian rhapsody to me. Just a 
sign of how desperate he is in need of new ideas? What happened to the rebel 
Prince of 'Dirty Mind', and 'Sign o' the times'? 

I don't know if eventually I will like this album, but for right now, I hope
it was about 30 minutes shorter, and better. Does anybody think the phone call
bits are entertaining? What's the need... I wonder. 

Oh, I liked the O+> carved onto the jewelbox. Now *that's* original. Oh for the
day when CD packaging isn't the only original thing in Prince albums...

Angelos
From: jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Funkadelic CD Releases
Date: 7 Oct 1992 18:43:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world, rec, usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pongo

In article <92280.170140KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu> KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu (Karl Nordstrom) writes:
>What is jazz funk?  Who plays it?

Charles Earland
Big John Patton
Grant Green
The Crusaders
Idris Muhammed
War (check out the LP "Platinum Jazz" - deep grooves)
Lou Donaldson
Baby Face Willette
Funk Inc.

and so on, and so on, and scooby dooby do.

The beginnings of the UK acid-jazz movement lie in the artists
mentioned above. Some DJs began playing these artists as an
alternative to the other club styles around, and then some
musicians began constructing their own grooves based on the
this sound.

A lot of this stuff (the Earland LPs on Prestige like "The
Mighty Burner") is out of print, as far as I know, but some
has been coming out on reissue. There are a couple of great
John Patton cuts on a Blue Note reissue of their artists doing
soul covers, Grant Green has a box set of his Blue Note jams,
etc.

....
jimh@west.sun.com
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:16:11 EDT
From: Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Whats Acid-Jazz? (Was: Funkadelic CD Releases)
Distribution: world, rec, usa
 <39070@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> <92280.170140KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <1avb49INN6ia@smaug.West.Sun.COM>

Jim,

Thanks for the responce.  I sent you email at pongo... but it bounced

jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori) says:

>KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu (Karl Nordstrom) writes:
>>What is jazz funk?  Who plays it?

>Charles Earland
>Big John Patton
>Grant Green
>The Crusaders
>Idris Muhammed
>War (check out the LP "Platinum Jazz" - deep grooves)
>Lou Donaldson
>Baby Face Willette
>Funk Inc.

I have only heard of War and the Crusaders.

>The beginnings of the UK acid-jazz movement lie in the artists
>mentioned above. Some DJs began playing these artists as an
>alternative to the other club styles around, and then some
>musicians began constructing their own grooves based on the
>this sound.

Here I go again.  Whats Acid-Jazz and what are some good examples of it?
I have heard some but I didn't know it till after the fact.
From: farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Funkadelic CD Releases
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:45:38 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <39070@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Marcel Carlsson)
writes:
>
>If U ever stop by Tucson, AZ check out a vinyl store called PDQ,
>huge selection of used vinyl.  Managed to pick up some serious funk
>and jazz funk:
>       Uncle Jamm Wants U - Funkadelic $5.00
>       One nation under a groove - Funkadelic $5.00
>       + most Parliaments and Donald Byrd albums at $5.00 each or
>       less.  Even got that weird 7" that had a live remix and came
>       with One nation....
>
>If you haven't, check out some of the mid 70's jazz funk, those cats
>were plenty hard when they put they mind to it.
>
>
Wow I live in oakland CA and the store wants 20 bucks minimum for all
Funkadelic records and 15 buck min. for Parliament records same with Boosty.
Even comon clinton records like Computer Games they want 12 bucks for.
From: dit@sybase.com (David Trumbull)
Newsgroups: rec.music.funky
Subject: Re: Slave (the band) (was Re: Ohio Players)
Keywords: Slave, Brass Construction, Foxy, Da Funk
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:29:01 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.funky
Organization: Knuckles Nuclear's Subterranean Disco Planet!

In article <1992Oct2.200022.5253@beaver.cs.washington.edu> karty@cs.washington.edu (Richard Karty) writes:
>Yes yes - SLAVE!
(CHOMP! Some funk revelations (the best kind) deleted)

>I just discovered Slave about three years ago, at the same time as I
>discovered Brass Construction and Foxy.

Well, lets hear about it! I only have one BC album, and don't know who the hell
Foxy is, so enlighten the masses please... I promise that I'll post the Gil
Scott-Heron soon to participate in the virtual verbal funk goin on here..

--
  Superhigh            \       Lookin for that good stuff... 
 dit@sybase.com        /        ...better tighten up on your backstroke. 
  Backstrokin'        /		    
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From: buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby)
Subject: Graham Central Station CDs
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 22:42:34 EDT

  Regarding Graham Central Station on CD: I've seen their first album as a 
Japanese import; some of the others are also probably out in Japan.  These 
albums have been out of print on vinyl for a long time, so I wouldn't 
expect them to appear domestically anytime soon.

     Pat Buzby           "Fried ice cream is a reality!"-George Clinton
     Grove City, OH      "Music is the best."-Frank Zappa
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From: mlloyd@cbnewse.cb.att.com (michael.lloyd)
Subject: What's Larry Dunn up to these days??
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:29:55 GMT


I enjoyed Larry Dunn's keyboard work from his days with EWF and 
some work with Ronnie Laws. It seems that Dunn isn't with EWF
anymore, and I haven't seen him mentioned on any of Ronnie
Laws latest releases. Does anyone know what he's doing these days
or know about other folks he played with in the past that might 
be worth checking out??

Also, where can one acquire some of these Japanese imports of 70's
funk (Bootsy, Funkadelics, GCS, etc.) that have been mentioned in 
this group lately (short of going to Japan!) My vinyl is getting
old and I'm getting nervous about playing 'em so much. I want this 
music around to listen to when I'm an old man!

Thanks!
Michael Lloyd
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From: Janne.Salmi@hut.fi (Janne Salmi)
Subject: Re: EWF - Eternal Dance
Organization: Helsinki Univ. of Tech., Finland
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:48:58 GMT

In article <ddogan.15.718401028@AFIT.AF.MIL> ddogan@AFIT.AF.MIL (Darryl Dogan) writes:

->   The "new" live tracks are: "Kalimba Story", "Head To The Sky", "Mighty 
-> Mighty" and "That's The Way Of The World".  The previously unreleased tracks 
Mighty Mighty? I just gotta hear this... 

-> are: "Interlude", "Hey Girl (Interlude)", "Shining Star (Alternate Take)", 
-> "Ponta De Areia - Brazilian Rhyme (Interlude)", "Dirty (Interlude) w/ Jr. 
-> Wells, "Demo", "Little Girl", "Night Dreamin'" and "Gotta Find Out".

"Gotta Find Out" was included in the European version of Heritage.
Shame that the American version didn't have it; it's the best track on the
CD.

While on the subject, what are the EWF guys up to? Anything from them
after Philip Bailey's "Family Affair"? Any chance of a new EWF album
in the future?

And still, are "September" and "Gotta Get You Into My Life" on any
album, other than compilations?

- Janne
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From: Chuck Tomlinson <chuck@ssc.space.umn.edu>
Subject: James Brown's "Love Power Peace"
Organization: Space Science Graphics/U of M
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:19:43 GMT


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From: kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu (Angelos Kyrlidis)
Subject: Re: Prince's New Album Sucks!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:30:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.123804.384@wam.umd.edu> lovegod@wam.umd.edu 
(Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.165127.26016@athena.mit.edu> kyrlidis@athena.mit.edu  
>(Angelos Kyrlidis) writes:
>} '3 Chains o' gold' sounds like a princed up bohemian rhapsody to me.
>
>THANK YOU!  I knew I wasn't crazy (well, at least in that one incident).  

ha! Now I know it isn't just me... :)

>IMHO, Prince's last GREAT albums  
>were "Sign O' The Times", "The Black Album", "Lovesexy", and the Batman  
>soundtrack ... 

I will agree. It seems to me that ever since Prince has managed to copy himself
and has recently started copying others. I remember a discussion of the sort
in the Prince mailing list when Graffitti Bridge came out. Now he's doing 
reggae and Queen, and even sings about raves!! 

Prediction: next time he does industrial country funk. :) 

And why on earth has he stopped touring the US?

Angelos


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From: Chuck Tomlinson <chuck@ssc.space.umn.edu>
Subject: James Brown's "Love Power Peace"
Organization: Space Science Graphics/U of M
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:29:13 GMT

Sorry about the first posting. I screwed something up.

Anyway, "Love Power Peace" is James and JB's in Paris, France in March of
1971 and the performance is incredible. The set list is heavy on long
funk jams and light on the classic earlier R&B hits. This is the version
of the JB's w/Bootsy Collins and his brother right before they split to
hook up w/George Clinton. The band is tight, James is simply James.

There are lots of lame JB live recordings out there. This isn't one of
them. Check it out, it's on Polydor.
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From: jstraw@well.sf.ca.us (Michael Newman)
Subject: P-Funk Tour Schedule
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: rec.music.funky
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:56:02 GMT

This is my first net posting and I'm pretty sure it's wrongly done  but what
the f*ck, this is an urgency. If anyone has correct tour dates for the midwest,
PLEASE, email jstraw@well.sf.ca.us. The Omaha/Kansas City/Minneapolis dates are
not materializing as per Peter Jebsen's info. I need help.

Thanks.

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From: 911527j@ace.acadiau.ca (ROBERT JORDAN)
Subject: P-FUNKALLSTAR TOUR(CANADA)
Keywords: aNY dates in the great white north
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:29:20 GMT


	I was wondering if there are any tour dates planned for Canada?

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