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From: langley@ace.acadiau.ca (WANDA LANGLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: how much to feed cats
Summary: huge cat
Keywords: big, weight, food
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:29:33 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

Our three year old, Victoria, has been spayed (when she was six months old) 
and now weighs 20 pounds...yes, that's right, 20 pounds.  Once spring/summer 
arrives she will lose about 3 pounds but she is usually not lighter than 16 
pounds.  She is fat and overweight and we know that.  However, she gets one 
dessert spoonful (not heaping) of wet food at breakfast, lunch and supper 
time.  She eats about 1/2 - 3/4 C. dry food a day (we leave it in her dish 
for her to munch on).  She is very active when the weather permits (spring, 
summer and fall) but we find that in the winter she gets bored and eats (
just like people).  We tried her on diet food from the vet's - she wouldn't 
touch it.  We really don't know what else to do - she is very active and 
believe it or not - she is very quick.  So I guess what I am saying is that 
an 8 oz. can of wet food lasts Victoria two days...that is supplemented with 
the dry food (Purina Light or Science Diet).  Any suggestions.  Oh yes, I 
should add that she gets most aggravated when she is hungry and we ignore 
her...she is a tiger cat and doesn't always have the greatest disposition 
when she doesn't get her own way...she is extremely spoiled.
From: mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mikeey J. Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Thanks for Spaying Advice!!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:26:48 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)


   Hello everyone!

	Thanks to everyone who adviced me about spaying my cat.
   I really appreciate it!  You made it easier for me to decide
   to bring my kitten to the Vet. Well, thanks again.

					Mikeey 
			    mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat FAQ is Great!  Two suggestions....
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:09:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boeing Graphics project, Bellevue WA

In article <Qdt8YEO00WBOI3zCtq@andrew.cmu.edu> dg0q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Diane Gibson) writes:
>Hi:
>
>2)  Disinfectants
>
>A friend who breeds Russian Blues warned me never to use a disinfectant
>that contains Phenol, as that is also poisonous to cats (like Pine Oil).
> This is found in Lysol--and I'm not sure what else.  I stick with
>Bleach now.  You might want to add that to the list of bad disinfectants.
>
I second this one!  My vet sends out a quarterly newsletter, and actually had
an article about this subject a while back.  It was something to the effect
that this stuff leaves a reside and the cats' systems absorb this stuff.
Sounds evil.

-- 
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.boeing.com  // or uunet!bcstec!voodoo!das 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: poirier@ellerbe.rtp.dg.com (Charles Poirier)
Subject: Cat poem
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:41:05 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

On the occasion of his Cat Birthday, and being no longer a Kitten:

	Cassius Cats

Cassius splashes dishes, thirsts for fight
Cassius fasts, catches fat rat feasts
Cassius falls feet first, alights upright
Cassius dashes fleet, affrights fleeing beasts
Cassius scratches at latches, eyes nuthatches
Cassius nabs rabbits, crouches on couches
Cassius cats can
Catch as catch can

	Cheers,
	Charles
From: churley@warren.med.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: A hard decision - Help
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:36:51 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School

How do you decide what to do when you have a very sick cat.  My cat was
attacked by a large animal (most likely a dog).   He's had surgery twice and
the vet says his prognosis is good, but he has tissue dying and it may take
several more surgeries before he's well.  My problem is I don't know if I can
afford to continue.  I've already spent a lot of money and hate to give up when
I've invested so much.  I am very attached to this animal and don't know if I
can (mentally)  have him killed.  Shit, I am so bummed, if it weren't so damned
expensive the choice would be easy.  Has anyone else been in this situation
before?  What did you do?
From: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Help with Smell!
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:31:37 GMT
Reply-To: linda@linda.intel.com (Linda Harbin)
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon


Hi -- I am new to this group.  Infact, I usually don't read it but I have a
slight problem and I figured this was the perfect place to turn. 

We have a 10-month old cat that we have had for 8 months.  She is mostly an
indoor cat, although she has been outside a few times.  She has her own
litter box and uses it regularly.  Problem is, this past week, we started
smelling a strong amonia smell in the living room.  It is quite obvious she
had pee'd in the living room although I never did see the spot.  She must
have done it during the day while we were at work it was dry by the time we
got home in the evening.  Anyway, the smell is quite strong.  I have tried
'Carpet Fresh' to get rid of the smell but now the living room smells like
amonia-ized carpet fresh :-).  

My husband does not like cats and agreed to get this cat after our 6-yr old
daughter and I pleaded with him.  So, he is quite perturbed by the smell. 

Is there any suggestions what I can do to get rid of the smell?  I think I
have pinpointed the general area of the living room when she must have pee'd
and I am maybe going to shampoo that area this weekend.  If that does not
work, is there any trick-of-the-trade to get rid of the smell?  

***************************************************
	Linda Harbin
    linda@littlei.intel.com
    Hillsboro, Oregon
***************************************************
From: mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Mikeey J. Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Advice needed for Spaying!!!
Date: 5 Apr 92 23:07:29 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)


	Hi everyone!

	      Just have a few questions for some folks.

	1)When is the ideal time to spay a cat?
        2)Will it change the behavior of my baby cat?
	3)How does the procedure works?
        (My cat is afraid of EVERYTHING, so I'm a little concerned)

	      I know these questions must sound so repetitive
	so please excuse them. Thanks in advance!

					Mikeey
			    mjln_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Kitties On Board
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:08:52 -0500
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

mlinda@ca.novell.com (M'Linda Taylor) writes:
> I'm moving to Austin, TX on or about May 3rd and need some advice.
> 
> I *was* going to have my kitties (Thomasina-the-cute and Rio-the-LOUD)
> stay at my Dad's until I got settled in my new apartment.  I figured that
> he could put them on the plane and they could come home to a nice relaxed
> environment.  The problem is....a friend recently told me that the Kenn
> Club (or SPCA) reports that the fatality rate is up to 51%!!!!  This does
> NOT leave me with a warm fuzzy feeling.
> 
> I'm now considering taking them with me in the car (through the dessert).
> I am concerned that the ~3 day trip will be hard on them and hell on my
> boyfriend, who is allergic to the girls, he can handle them in a apartment,
> but I worry that being enclosed with them in the car for 3 days could make
> him seriously ill.

We brought Alice and Carrie back from CA in August in an un-airconditioned
car.  The cats rode in a big wire rabbit cage in the front seat (all windows
down to take advantage of the 4-55 air conditioning system.  We stayed in
motels chosen from Gaines dog food listing called "Touring with Towser",
and stopped about 3 pm or so every day.  Drove from about 2am to 3pm.
Motel 6's generally accept cats with no fuss.

Cats adapted fine after a few hours on the road. We gave Alice a tranquilizer
because she was known to be hyper, and were treated to the kitty 
rendition of "how dry I am <hic>" for the first day.  Days 2-4 were
untranquilized, and we only had to listen to about an hour of complaint
every morning.  After that they slept.

Have your friend check into the less-sedating antihistamines like
hismanal and seldane, and keep the windows down and he should be OK.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
From: miller@castor.cs.uga.edu (TOBY MILLER)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: cooking
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:21:24 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens


Hi, I just in America.  This where I find cantonese recepe for cat, no?
Sorry english. 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: luck@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (DeAnne Luck)
Subject: comforting cats in car?
  Hi! I'm new to this group and would like to introduce my two cats, Sox
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:01:44 GMT

   My question is this: does everyone keep their cats in a carrier Of
some sort while traveling in the car?  We have kept ours in carriers,
but during a recent trip to the (nearby) vet, we decided not to get the
carriers out and just hold them.  The effect was remarkable!  They usually
cry continually, after calming down from the near-screaming-from-fright
stage, and sylvester usually has a very messy accident.  This time, they
were very calm and only meowed a little bit.  Even though we try to talk
soothingly and put them where they can see us in the carriers, holding
them seemed to calm them 200% more. Do other cats react this way or do
we have the world's worst scaredy-cats?

DeAnne & Kevin
Sox & Sylvester
luck@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
From: rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Oh dear...
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:37:54 GMT
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research

In article <12563@umd5.umd.edu>, Grig Larson (gl) writes:

gl> He always gets in you lap and seconds later, you have to get up
gl> for some reason.

Not his fault, it is a law of the universe.

For instance it is a well known fact that the human bladder can detect
the proximity of a cat and immediatly cause a trip to the bathroom the
moment the cat has stopped digging its claws an and finally settled
down. 

People who do TV shedules have cat detectors too, party politicals
with whichever politician most gets up your nose always start just
when the purring terrorist is asleep. I presume people with remote
controls suffer battery power failure at this time just to keep the
universal misery threshold up to scratch.

And never, _never_ let the cat anywhere near when you have something
cooking, its a guarantee of having to choose between smoking charcoal
suprise for dinner or the loss of several ounces of thigh muscle. 

--
rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk	Cats are the universe's way of pointing out
			just how daft people really are. No sane
			species would put up with them.
From: IO20393@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: new cat or no?
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:34:46 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System


   Ok...here's the problem.   I am a colloege student who's moving into an
apartment next semester.  I love cats, and can't wait to have one move in
with me!   However, I have a cat at home..(parents house) She is terrific, and
I can't bear to leave her behind, but I'm afraid she'll miss the other cats and
the dog, not to mention my family.  If she came to my apartment, she'd have to
become an indoor cat  (she's getting along in age anyway and prob should stay
inside in the winter)  So, I don't know whether I should leave her with my
family, and get another cat, or take her with me!   I really don't want her to
be unhappy and lonely, but I know she also misses me a lot.    HELP!!!

           Thanks for any ideas/advice!
                                Amy Rae     <And it harm none, do as thou wilt>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: amyk@netcom.com (Amy Kurtzman)
Subject: Re: Mitzy The Cat Needs Toys!!!
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 23:14:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Summary: mail order source
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Distribution: na
Keywords: cat toys mail order

In article <1992Apr11.193832.10888@uc.msc.edu> tbachman@hamline.edu (Toni Bachman) writes:
>Hello!   I am wondering if anyone out there has a line on a mail order catalog
>that sells interesting cat toys - our local stores seem to have the same old 
>things lately and my cat finds them boooooring!  Mitzy especially likes things
>like Cat Dancers and other "chasables".  She is getting lazy and FAT waiting
>for some new toys.  If you have any addresses, please post them on the Network
>
>I Thank The In Advance!!!!
>
>Toni

You might send for the Felix catalog. Their address is:

Felix
3623 Fremont Avenue N.
Seattle, WA 98103

It's a small catalog, not a whole lot of stuff, but I got scratcing
posts and a great toy for my kitty guys. The toy is called a 
"Mousie House." It cost about $20 (I'm a sucker when it comes to
improving my cats life.) 8 inches wide, 10 inches high, and 10
inches long, dimensions approximate. As I was measuring, I noticed
the side of the toy says it is manufactured by the Felix company.
It is a box shaped like a little house. The bottom is particleboard,
as are some upright supports inside the house, the left and right
sides appear to be real wood. The long sides and roof are heavy
cardboard. It is heavy enough that it doesn't tip over during play.

What is the point of this toy you're probably asking by now. 

Inside the house is a felt mouse attached by a string. The
mouse sits in the middle of the house. On both wooden ends of the house
there is a hole through which the cat sees the mouse and then
puts his paws in to nab the mouse. Then the cat plays with the mouse.
Mousie doesn't have a chance ... until the cat loosens his grip on
the mouse and the mouse is quickly retracted (by a rubber band ona
spindle sort of thing) and seems to run back into the house. Then
the cat tries to get the mouse again.

This toy is great fun for the whole family. Fun for the cat to play
with, and fun for us to watch (and do a little participating too).
The cat can do stalking, pouncing, grabbing and pulling. Lucy 
loves the toy and so did the late Bub-cat (r.i.p.). The only problem
we had with it was when the rubber band broke, but we were  able to
dissasemble it and replace the rubber band.



-- 
Amy Kurtzman                     |     "I have no clever quote."   
amyk@netcom.COM                  |                  - Amy Kurtzman
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rwl@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Ray Lubinsky)
Subject: Re: Ralphin' Kitty
Reply-To: rwl@server.cs.Virginia.EDU
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:45:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.164528.11085@husc3.harvard.edu>, joltes@husc4.harvard.edu (Richard Joltes) writes:
> A minor problem has come up with Kabuki, the Screaming Sliamese.  He's been
> randomly ralphing (translation:  throwing up) just after eating.  I'm not sure
> if it's a physical problem since he acts fine otherwise, and is his normal,
> playful self.  It almost seems like he's trying for attention or something, 
> since this usually happens when Kris and I are busy and running around the 
> house.  He eats (far too fast, gulping down his food), waits a few minutes, and
> tosses it all up again.


One of our cats has this problem only with Science Diet pellets.  She'll
gobble them down quickly without really chewing most of the pellets and
then she'll drink a lot of water.

The water expands the pellets in her alreay full stomach and -- presto --
instant used-cat-food dispenser!  This isn't as disgusting as the usual
cat barf because the food is basically in tact.  (What's disgusting is
when she decides to give the offending food another try...)

-- 
| Ray Lubinsky                              rwl@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU  |
| Computer Systems Engineer,                lubinsky@virginia (BITNET) |
| Department of Computer Science,           804-982-2219       (voice) |
| University of Virginia                    804-982-2214         (FAX) |
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Hill's Science Diet - good idea?
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:27:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: zia.1992Apr8.172720.2355
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Distribution: na
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <44414@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> qhwpyd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Cynthia Goff) writes:
>
>     Decaying carcasses are not slaughtered and no cancerous ones are either.
>I don't believe you can get cancer by eating something that has cancer anyway.
>As I said before, if the animal and/or its organs are not healthy, the USDA
>inspector will condemn that animal/carcass in the blink of an eye.

This is certainly true when they're doing meat for *human* consumption. But
what happens to the ones that don't pass the test? Are they just thrown away
somewhere? I doubt it, not only because of the cost of the animals but also
because of the problem of disposal. Cows are large animals. Did you see any
animals being rejected? If so, did they show you what's done with them? I'd
be very interested in knowing. 

The consensus seems to be that they wind up in pet food. I don't know whether
this is true or not, but I am not particularly worried about it. Predators
in the wild often kill diseased or old animals, simply because it's easier; 
many will scavenge carcasses as well. I am sure that the processing pet food 
receives kills the worst of the bacteria, parasites, etc. that might have 
infected the original animal while it was alive. The fact that it's in cans
which keep for ages is an indication of this (dry food contains very little
animal material). And I have never heard of any proof, or even evidence, that
eating cancerous tissue causes cancer.
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat hates being brushed
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:15:33 -0500
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Apr9.162737.3697@u.washington.edu>, ames@biostat.washington.edu (Diane Ames) writes:
> In article <yqrj06h.cap@netcom.com> cap@netcom.com (Caroline Smrstik) writes:
>>Robyn Williamson wrote:
>>
>>>Ralph (Kitty Ralph, Ralphie-poo) hates to be brushed.  
> 
>>FOOD. Graham Chapman reacts much like your Ralphie-poo when being brushed.
>>Steve thinks Graham has sensitive skin and doesn't like the bristles. 
> 
> I bought a $1.39 Goody hairbrush (with nylon bristles) at the drugstore,
> and she tolerated this better, but still not well.  I was patient with 
> her, brushing only as long as she was comfortable, and gradually, over
> a period of several weeks, I worked up to 2 full body brushings a day.
> Now she *demands* her brushings twice a day....and I hear about it if
> she thinks it's overdue.

You can also try a rubber-bristled brush or a grooming mitt with little
rubber toothies on it.  Not as effective as a slicker brush, but what
I use on Catkin when he needs brushing AND he has flea dermatitis...

My crew otherwise love being brushed.  Picking up a slicker brush 
guarantees that you will be mobbed by cats in need of kitty-love.
Some mornings I have trouble brushing my own hair because the cat on
my shoulders is sticking his head between MY hairbrush and MY head...

Kay Klier   Biology Dept  UNI
From: saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's))
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: KalKan (Re:  Hill's Science Diet)
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:29:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.44660
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Apr9.144510.7118@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cindyz@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Cindy Zimmerman) writes:
>In article <44519@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belz
>owski (K-9's)) writes:
>>
>>First of all let me say I worked all summer at KalKan as a chemical
>>engineering intern.  I saw EVERYTHING that went into the dog and cat food
>>produced there.  First of all all pet food must meet the same standards that
>>human food does.    
>
>     salesman for KalKan here in Columbus.  According to this guy,
>     the elderly woman who was in charge was very particular about
>     the quality of the dog and cat food the company produced and
>     insisted on personally *tasting* a sample of each new product.
......
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Cindy Zimmerman                             Internet:  clz+@osu.edu
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yeah, I did some of that too while I was there.  The dry food is
a lot like round bits of cornchips (with a little meat taste), but
You couldn't get me to eat the wet stuff.  I have my limits.  They'd
have to raise my salary quite a bit more before I did that.  ;)

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Marla Belzowski   saavik@Mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Mauii Nikki Belzowski CD CGC TDI CERF
Brittish Legend of Beowulf (1leg CD) CGC TDI CERF   tri-color collies
The Cat pack -- Simon, Cleo, and Mildred
From: thuyan@brahms.udel.edu (Thuy-An Hartman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Terrified Kitty
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:13:21 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware


Ok, I will try to make this long story short (wish me luck):

A little over a year ago, my husband and I went on our honeymoon and
left our 3 cats with a friend.  Somehow all 3 ran away.  We ended up
retrieving all 3, or so we thought.  2 of them were clearly hours
(distinguishing markings and the whole bit) but the third we were not
too sure of.  She was indeed a stray, feeding off of someone's kindness
for the last 3 weeks (about as long as the three mouseketeers had been
missing).  She was very sick and bloated.  I took her to the vet and
paid over $300 to get her healthy.

BUT, when she was healthy, we realized she was not our kitty.  We put an
add in the paper to see if anyone had lost her, but no one responded.  

We soon found out our kitty had died under a car :( sniff-sniff

So, we decided to keep this kitty.  And the problems arose:
1. She hates other animals, including the 2 cats and my husky.

2. She is now about 2 and no one wants to adopt a cat vs. a kitten

3. She is MISERABLE

So, I am trying to figure out what to do.  I do not want to take
her to the SPCA.  I figure miserable and alive is better than dead.

She loves people, especially my husband.  She "HUGS" people (puts her
paws on either side of your face and hugs you).  I love her to death,
but think it is unfair for her to be living in terror.

It has been over a year and I do not think it will get any better.

Any suggestions?

Thanks, Thuy-An
From: ifau172@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: testing
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:18:21 GMT
Reply-To: ifau172@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu ()
Distribution: ut
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

this is a testing.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ames@biostat.washington.edu (Diane Ames)
Subject: Re: cat hates being brushed
Organization: Biostatistics, University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:29:02 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.201533.3725@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>Some mornings I have trouble brushing my own hair because the cat on
>my shoulders is sticking his head between MY hairbrush and MY head...

Ain't life grand with our feline friends?!?  :-)

-Di


"Stately, kindly, lordly friend condescend
	here to sit by me, and turn
		Glorious eyes that smile and burn..."

				Algernon Charles Swinburne
From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re:Maine Coons/Hanavana Browns
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:41:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr17.164151.9661
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU


There's a very good cat identification book, with all the nuances,
personality traits, best features, etc., by Simon and Schuster(sp).

I think it's just called, "The Simon and Schuster Guide to Cats".

(Mine is on Plate 9)

Anyway, in this book it said that a Hanava Brown is like no other cat.
Does anyone know how they are like no other cat?