HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drunk Cagers (Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:52:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: balrog.1992Aug19.195246.16451
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX

In article <25578@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
>In article <16rhcvINNdn@rodan.UU.NET> smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)
>writes:
>>
>>Just as a bit of amuzement, at the Burger King I used to work at in high
>>school, we used to call the police whenever people who were drinking
>>would go through the drive through.  We'd intentionally take our time
>>with their order to get a good description of their vehicle.
>>
>>Conveniently, there was a speed trap less than a block away from the
>>place that we'd get to sit and watch the cop pull out of as soon as the
>>report went through, and catch the people...
>>
>
>As much as I hate to see drunk drivers on the road (and I have been involved
>in a hit and run accident with a car that was obviously driven by a drunk guy
>while I was with my like-new bike I had bought 2 months before (gives you a few
>reasons to hate the kind believe me, plus marks on the skin just to remember)).
>
>As much as I despise the person, well I despise even more people that have an
>attitude like the one described above. I personally find denounciation like
>this degrading.
>
>What about trying to talk to the guy for example ? With a few well chosen
>words you can make him feel very miserable. There are other ways than pure
>repretion like this, and especially vicious denounciation like what you've
>described.
>
>	JNM

	Am I the only one totally lost?  denounciation?  Hell, he sandbagged
	him.  I like it.  Are you really supposed to make a drunk driver
	feel bad, and then let him drive off?  What kind of sense does that
	make?  For a person to get hit by a drunk, and then want to let them
	keep 'em driving while they're drunk is beyond me.  

	"Shame on you.  Don't you know its bad to drive drunk?  Baaad driver.
	oh, yea, I'd hate to see you arrested, so you just drive away from
	here OK? "
-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet forehead welts & itching
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:19:07 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Aug21.131557.12932@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>Most Shoeis seem to fit a spherical
>head best, while the Arai is shaped to fit an oval head better.

Once upon a time motorcycles all came with adjustable footrest
positions and adjustable handlebars, helmets came with adjustable
padding that permitted variation between brachycephalic and
dolicocephalic, and there was a good market in made-to-measures. But
the engines were unreliable and "suspension" laughable.

Now you can buy bikes with engines so sophisticated that you need
computerised diagnosis machinery to do a tune-up, so many adjustments
on the suspension that it is as hard to get it right as picking a
combination lock, yet riding positions are fixed and helmets are
absurdly over-standardised in shape.

A naive observer of these changes in the market would conclude that
today's bikers, compared to yesterday's, demand the highest standards
of performance, but never ride very far or for very long. In other
words, much as seems to have happened with pedal-cycles, biking has
become a hobby rather than a way of life.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com (BlackJack)
Subject: Re: Compressed air for carb cleaning
Reply-To: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:13:34 GMT

In article <ALAVIGNE.92Aug17101310@bmerh930.bnr.ca>, alavigne@bmerh930.bnr.ca (Andrew Lavigne) writes:
> 
> Anyone out there clean their jets without fancy, expensive equipment (and 
> without paying some garage to do it as well...)
> 

You can go to a well stocked camera store and get cans of compressed air that
are used to clean lenses. Fairly high pressure, not as much as a compressor
puts out nor the volume, but much cheaper.

BlackJack
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: No, *Bikers* lose (was: Cager loses to biker story: )
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:21:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.135543.1@vax.sonoma.edu>, feinstei@vax.sonoma.edu writes...
>In article <1992Aug14.191805.24116@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
> 
>> 	My MSF (CSC in Canada,actually) told us of the time when some
>> 	bitch(tm) cut him off in a rotary (roundabouts in the UK). Now this
>> 	is somewhat to be expected in a rotary, but the general rule is to
>> 	alternate the yield.  Anyway, it was his turn, she challenged
>> 	it and practically ran him off the road.  This guy is big/strong
>> 	and wears nice protective (read indestructable) boots.  He catches
>> 	up to her, and kicks the living shit out of her tail light!!!  
>> 	Needless to say, she will always 'Watchout for motorcycles, they're
>> 	everywhere' from here on in.  
> 
>This kind of shit is truly stupid. What do you think the other cars 
>on the road thought while they were watching a motorcyclist kick 
>someone's taillight out in the middle of traffic? How do you think it 
>affected their attitudes toward motorcyclists? Riding is dangerous 
>enough; let's not pick fights with vehicles that weigh many times 
>more than ours, and in which the drivers feel invulnerable. If that woman 
>had had more of a temper she could have run that asshole off the road 
>with a flick of her wrist! I'm sure that moron felt very proud of 
>himself but the reality is that he made the roads more dangerous for 
>us than they already were, and we can definitely do without that shit.
> 
	Then again, there was the story some years back about a car driver
barging through a crowded pedestrian crossing in lunch-hour Melbourne.  One
of the pedestrians was a big bad biker-type who delivered a swift boot to
the tail-light, destroying it.  The crowd cheered.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
From: cgates@mitre.org (Curt Gates)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:38:02 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1992Aug14.153146.16745@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> 
hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
> 
>         What would YOU do ?
I would probably assume that he was definitely more insane than I am, and 
then let him have the road to himself.  Life is too short to waste time 
teaching lessons to *all* the assholes in the world, but... at one time I 
experimented with a pressurized tank that injected (sprayed) oil into the 
engine.  Nobody likes to be behind a smoke generator.  Especially if the 
smoke really stinks. And they think your engine is about  to blow up. 
Keeps em off balance.  *Much* easier to just ignore the fools.  Safer too.
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RESULT: rec.motorcycles.harley passes 362:47
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:03:19 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 5D1@uunet.uu.net, ciotti@nas.nasa.gov (Robert B. Ciotti) writes:
>
>sybase!leighann@Sun.COM Leigh Ann Hussey 
>sybase!leighann@Sun.COM Leigh Ann Hussey Oster 

If I get a divorse, can I vote again?

:^)

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:45:58 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California

In article <16qt9jINN1m3@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 9407@tcsi.com, skao@booboo.tcs.com (Simon Kao) writes:
>>Dana writes:
>>
>>.... [David said] you simply need to push on the gas tank with your knee
>>to make the bike steer. This doesn't sound like counter-steering at all.
>>
>>To which I say: Yes, it is, but it's hidden from the user. That is to
>>say, if you use your left knee to push against the tank, in order to
>>balance yourself, you will unconciously lessen your push on the left
>>handlebar, which is equivalent to pushing the right handlebar, which 
>>results in countersteering to instigate a turn to the right.
>
>I concur.

Well, I concur, too, but a comment is in order; one doesn't lessen the
push on the left handlebar. Instead, one tends to pull on the left handlebar,
which is the same as pushing on the right handlebar.

>And the fact that Reg Pridmore can sit astride a BMW on its centerstand
>and rock the bike back and forth with his lower body means less than
>nothing, in terms of steering it on the track.

Almost without fail, everytime I hear a CLASS graduate expouding on
Reg-style, I shake my head in disbelief. I'd even bet that Reg would
insist that counter-steering doesn't work correctly on shaft drive bikes.

-- 
 * Dana H. Myers KK6JQ 		| Views expressed here are	*
 * (213) 337-5136 		| mine and do not necessarily	*
 * dana@locus.com  DoD #466 	| reflect those of my employer	*
 * "Dammit Bones, spare me the lecture and give me the shot!"   *
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:55:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug12.185508.11440
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <16bhgjINN103@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 5887@i88.isc.com, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:

>>What does Central America have to do with Kansas?
>
>They played a gig there on their last tour.
>
>Pa-dum-Ching.

Ed, why don't you e-mail me a list of straight lines, and I'll just
toss them out from time to time...
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
Which is worse: using vast wealth to trounce a small country on the battlefield,
or using vast wealth to trounce several countries on the basketball court?
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From: shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun)
Subject: Re: Warning! "Fuck" and "Shit" appear in this article
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 06:43:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: horns

I almost forgot to ask my question. I'm trying to decide what horn to get.
Everyone seems to have Fiamms but I was wondering about Spagthorpe
Electronics. The two most suitable horns for a bike are the Spagthorpe
Conure and the Cockatoo. Does anyone know which is louder? And is there
any mail order supply for these horns? Road Rider is out of stock and
they don't know when they will be getting any.

"Nothing is as overrated as a bad ride, or as underrated as a good post."


-- 
Lissa
shoun@netcom.com     (408) 926-0812
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Braking Distances (was Re: Scooters and a non-flame for RKOU)
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:11:19 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 565@philabs.philips.com, mja@philabs.philips.com (Michael Amato) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug19.161358.3709@rtsg.mot.com>, svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>|> 
>|> Yes.  Cars can stop faster, even, under many conditions.  Esp w/antilock
>|> that is so common these days.
>|> 
>Just FYI, this is not true for accomplished cagers. 

Unfortunately, there are none of these on the roads.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Engine tuning problems!
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:39:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.131654.3713@exu.ericsson.se> lmcansi@noah.ericsson.se (Andrew Silver) writes:
[katana 600 won't drop tp idle]
>
>Problem:  When I release the throttle, the engine speed will drop until it reaches around 2000 RPM.  From there on, the engine speed will drop very slowly until it reaches around 1000 RPM.
>

1.  is there any binding in the throttle cables/linkage?

2.  are the carbs synched?

3.  are one or more carbs not returning to idle when the linkage is
    at idle?  i.e. there's slop in the linkage that opens the 'slave'
    carbs.

4.  is the air filter oiled properly?  not enough oil = running too lean.

5.  if it's none of the above, then you should be able to adjust
    the idle mixture by changing idle air jets.  Smaller idle air
    jet, richer mixture.  On mikunis, it's the small jet in the
    carb's bell mouth.

6.  please format your posts to < 80 columns.

7.  good luck.


--
Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
From: steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Setting off traffic signal detectors
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:21:39 GMT
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University

In article <5081@gdls.UUCP> parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.160555.22282@ohrd.uucp>, 
>ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine) writes:
>[In article <3826@sapwdf.UUCP> Bill Wohler <wohler@sap-ag.de> writes:
>[>these tricks don't work here in germany where only the brand new
>[>intersections have these detectors.  so you have to wait for the timer
>[>most of the time anyway.
>[Have you got timers on the ones with detectors? If they all had timers, even
>[long ones, there wouldn't be a problem.
>Bzzzt! One can't have timers on 'em. It defeats its purpose.

Not true.  The logic circuitry can be easily designed so that the detector
overrules the timer.  I've seen this implemented.

Steve Garnier - DoD #00000005 - '79 XS1100SF w/ 157K+ miles and *climbing*
KotF (Flame),  KotAM (Anecdotal Motorcycle),  The Daemon's Byte
steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu       "Ineluctably Prolix" - John Norman Sims, Jr.
Come an' get it!  Served up nice an' *hot*!!  Get yer FREEEEE *logorhea*!!!
From: tafi3@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Ian Deeley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thoughts on VMAX
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:52:20 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex

From article <5529@transfer.stratus.com>, by cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson):
> In article <24805@castle.ed.ac.uk> cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes:
>> In article <s93m1q_.rudi@netcom.com> rudi@netcom.com (Rudolf Usselmann)  
> writes:
>> 
>> >Anything I should look out for when buying a used VMAX ?
>> 
>> Roads with corners :-)
> 
> Actually, the VMax with its realtively narrow v-4 should be a better handler
> than other contemporary muscle bikes like the GS1100G and Zl1000 Eliminator.
> Anybody have facts or experiences to back this up (or shoot it to hell) ?
> 
	I'm sorry, but I can't see what difference the width of the
engine makes, if the frame is made out of chewing gum it will never
handle no matter what engine it has in it! & yes I speak from
experience, I have ridden some 9 different VMax's in various states of "
modification" & each one handled as horriby as the last. It is all down
to the truly crap frame. Now a Harris or Spondon framed VMax that would
be a different matter!

	Ian Deeley
	School of Engineering
	University of Sussex
	Falmer, England
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley women (tm)
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:23:14 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: MSUS

In article <1992Aug19.155102.29911@advansoft.com>, eparker@advansoft.com
(Eric Parker) wrote:
> 
> 
[deleted much of the plain truth "Harley women who think like Harley
Men"]... 

> WARNING: There are a lot of yuppoid liberoid imitation Harley ladies out
> and about. You can usually spot them by the $500 Harley designer jacket. Or
> their yuppie scum's almost new bike equipped with only Asian made official
> Harley accessories.
> 

	Right On!

BUT, I'd not limit it to 'Harley' women.  Women don't have brand
names.  Neither do I, as much as a HD freak I am.

 ------------------
 john '56 FLH Chop!
From: eeharvey@cybaswan.UUCP (i t harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:28:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.093141.7417@ericsson.se>, etlanar@slartibartfast.ericsson.se (Alan Arthur) writes:
> 
> [...]
> While I was flying along a nice quiet country road, I noticed a strange 
> phenomena (sp?)... Although I could quite happily lean as far as I wanted to
> the left, there seemed to be some mental block which limited how far I could
> make myself lean to the right. After zooming round some left handers at ever-
> increasing speed, I came upon a right hander and very nearly killed myself,
> because although I had plenty space to lean into, I just couldn't make myself go far enough, and I had to brake _hard_.
> 
> I'm right handed, so is this some kind of 'built-in' protection mechanism that I
> need to overcome?, or am I just brain-damaged? or did I leave the side stand 
> down...? 8^)
> 
> [...]

Hmmm... this got me thinking, all my favourite bends, the ones I like
to nail it on, are left-handers too. I'll find some right handers this
evening, really go for it and report back. If I fail to report in the
next day or so then you'll know I had the same problem...

PS I'm right-handed and ride on the left.


-- 
_______________________________________________________________________
  Ian Harvey, University College Swansea         Too old to rock'n'roll
  eeharvey@uk.ac.swan.pyr                              Too young to die
                              '79 GS750E                              
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer)
Subject: Re:  Just back from my vacation and my CBR is gone ...
Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:27:38 GMT

In article <168jcnINNldn@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> sandman@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Smarter than the Average Blur) writes:
>
>In article <4CY5YML@netmbx.netmbx.de> fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer) writes:
>>I have no idea if the HRC power-up kit changes or will be the same as in
>>'92.
>
>What is an HRC power-up kit????

The kit from HRC (Honda Racing Corperation) to boost the CBR hp from 100 to
115.

-Axel
-- 
fischer@netmbx.de                                                   DoD #0228
CBR600F2 (stolen) - RD350LCN (street) - XR250R (dirt)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Subject: Re: Engine tuning problems!
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:49:42 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles

In article <1992Aug14.012843.16966@news.Hawaii.Edu>,
keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller) wrote:
> 
> >
> >4.  is the air filter oiled properly?  not enough oil = running too lean.
> >
> That reminds me, what is the recommended oil for Vance & Hines air filters?
> Or should I just use lemon pledge :-)
> Tim.

K&N Filter Oil should work really well, as will standard ATF in a 
pinch.
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
========
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mtrost@convex.com (Matthew Trost)
Subject: Re: Current Harley Craze and Women
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:58:04 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <DCAMPBEL.92Aug17112509@timshel.austin.ibm.com> dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell) writes:


>In article <daved.713803311@convex.convex.com>, daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>> I was proudley riding my new ST1100 down fashionable yuppie Newbury 
>> street in Boston and as I turned the corner I slowed down to let a 
>> fashionable yuppish mother walk across the street in fron of me.
>> 
>> She looked at the bike and said " If it was a harley I would ask
>> you for a ride" I was shocked and insulted, ( nothing against harleys
>> but I was pretty proud of my new bike), I felt like saying " well. If you
>> were better looking I might give you a ride" but, held my tongue.

 WHAT A BITCH!

>I had a similar thing happend to me.  I was stuck behind a cage that
>had just stalled in the turning lane.  There was this homeless fellow
>in the median holding his "I will work for food" sign (a very common
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>sight in Austin).  As I was waiting for the lane to my right to clear up so
>that I could get around the stuck car, I looked over at the homeless
>man who had started walking towards me.  Having been in situations
>before where I needed some assistance and not getting it, I'll
>usually give these guys some change if I have it (some idiot will
>probably flame me for that -- fuck 'em.)  This time, however, I
>didn't have any change so I looked up at him and kind of shrugged.

And the guy wasn't even smart enough to to gather all the rice dripping
from your engine? Wasn't very hungry, was he??

>Well, it turns out that he wasn't going to ask for some dough, he'd
>come up to tell me what he thought of Japanese bikes.  He started
>ranting and raving, "You need to get yourself a real bike!  You need
>to get a Harley Davidson!  Not this Japanese shit!"  And on and on.
>Not unlike alot of folks in this newsgroup, really.  Maybe he became
>homeless after he'd been layed off at Harley Davidson, I don't know.
>Anyway, at the time, I was too concerned about the opening in traffic
>coming up that would allow me to get around the stuck car, so I
>didn't respond to him.  I had a good laugh about it later when the
>irony of the situation occurred to me.  I must be a pretty sad case
>if I'm getting lectured by the homeless on how to spend my money!
>;-)

I don't think he had any room to talk. Where was *HIS* wheels? Japanese
or not!!!
Ride safe, bro!

>| David L. Campbell, IBM PSP Austin       | "The comfort you have demanded |
>| INET: dcampbel@ajones.austin.ibm.com    |       is now mandatory!"       |
>| IBM TR: dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com |               Jello Biafra     |
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(you're not from Milwaukee, are you? Went to high school with a Dave Campbell)

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