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From: 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:13:42 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

>   Well, this thread is returning because I can't define romance as much
>as anybody else can define love.  Plus, there are some really good new songs
>out there.

Anyone here see "AWAKENINGS"?   Romantic music is something like the
triggers in that movie.  For one person it's "the most beautiful
aria ever written" that stirred Robin William's characters soul ...
for another (like one old woman) it's  a Glen Miller tune.

For me:

"One Particular Harbor" -- Jimmy Buffett
                           (OK ...so I love Key West)

"Moonlight Montreal", "Smooth Sailing", or "In the Rain"  -- Peter White
                           (OK ... ANY Peter White, but you wanted
                            specifics.)


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From: rpatel@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Rachana D Patel)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:04:01 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Here's another song I think you guys may like the lyrics to.
Enjoy!


============================================================================

"Somebody" - Some Great Reward - Depeche Mode

I want somebody to shre
Share the rest of my life
Share my innermost thoughts
Know my intimate details
Someone who'll stand by my side
And give me support
And in return
She'll get my support
She will listen to me
When I want to speak
About the world we live in
And life in general
Though my views may be wrong
They may even be perverted
She will hear me out
And won't easily be converted
To my way of thinking
In fact she'll often disagree
But at the end of it all
She will understand me

I want somebody who cares
For me passionately
With every thought and with every breath
Someone who'll help me see things
In a different light
All the things I detest
I will almost like
I don't want to be tied
To anyone's strings
I'm carefully trying to steer clear
Of those things
But when I'm asleep
I want somebody
Who will put their arms around me
And kiss me tenderly
Though things like this
Make me sick
In a case like this
I'll get away with it


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Rachana D. Patel                             rpatel@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
University of Pennsylvania                   Management and Technology Program 

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 15 Sep 1992 15:56 EST  

In article <BuLBJv.px@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca>, jwtlai@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Jim W "GrimJim" Lai) writes...
>In article <8b0y-hk@rpi.edu> petitc@rpi.edu writes:
>>  One question:  How in the world can you fall in Love when you haven't even
>>seen the person yet?
> 
>One may as well ask: How in the world can you fall in love when you've only
>seen the person (i.e. never met them)?

And the answer to *both* questions is ...


YOU CAN'T ! You can only fall in love with what someone represents themself 
to be, or your perception of what they are, and that is *real* love, albeit 
love of a fantasy. When you meet or see the person, find out if they are 
what you percieved them to be, then you may turn that love into a full 
reality, or you may find that your perception was (intentionally or not) 
skewed and that the love you feel is *not* for that person, but for a 
person that you don't know yet (it would be presumptious of me to say that 
the person you fell in love with doesn't exist, perhaps they *do* and you 
just haven't found them yet.)

So, LDRs *are* real and can become real-er... :-)

-- Stephen

	"Some people live their dreams, some people close their eyes.
	 Some people's destiny... passes by"

					"I'll Be Over You"   -- Toto

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@vccsouth05.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Problems with [V]LDR's 
Reply-To: petitc@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:43:53 GMT

 (Yes, I've been using BNF way too long :&) :&O )

 I'd like to know how those of you in LDR's dealt with the problem of changing
countries (e.g. (s)he lives in a different country), especially if the countries
were extremely different.

-- 
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scarcity.
MATWDTM:  Mothers Against Teenagers Who Drink Too Much (failed name for MADD)




Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: cl129501@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Help, I'm stuck without an SO!
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:37:41 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Does anyone know how to help a guy who dos not seem to be able to get into
relationships (romantic, that is) because:

1) I don't want to take the risk of trying to turn a mere friendship (that is,
   with a female) into a romantic one?

2) What about asking a girl that you hardly know, out?  (i.e. turning nothing
   into something).

I do understand that sometimes guys and girls are just attracted to eachother,
but I do not really experience those feelings, not that I'm ugly or anything, I
guess I just don't have a sexual "aura" or something like that.

Any suggestions?

-- Darren Embry
   cl129501@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
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From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:22:10 GMT


In the LJBF romantic songs department....

how about:


"Does she love that man?"   by Breathe...


-- 
Irony is hygiene of the mind      --Elizabeth Bibesco
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: davros@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tyler Yip - UnixWeenie(tm))
Subject: Re: SO met through the computer. Anyone else ?
Keywords: irc
Organization: California State University, Chico
Distribution: alt
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 07:22:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.131245.3082@client21.comlab.ox.ac.uk> sharon@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Sharon Curtis) writes:
>In a previous article:
>>             Is there anyone else out there who met his/her SO through the
>>     computer ? It would be fun to hear similar cases.
>
>I met my SO that way.
>We were both logging into a sort-of computer chatline, where people use
>pseudonyms, and then one guy started saying really nasty things to me,
>and my first contact with my now-SO was him mailing me offering to find
>out who was being nasty to me and making sure he didn't do it again.
[stuff deleted]
Hey! Sounds like IRC.  Internet Relay Chat.  It's okay for trying to meet
people, but dorks from #hotsex tend to make single women kinda scared by
doing just that...sending nasty messages.
I for one met my SO in a slightly different way...through Soc.Penpals,
a newsgroup.  She replied to me, and we were penpals for maybe a week.  
It kinda grew from there.  Only thing is, she lives 3000 miles away from
me, which makes hugs kinda difficult =(, but I'm gonna visit her during 
the winter break.
>
>Incidentally my fella is lovely, and I like doing romantic things for him,
>but I'm running out of ideas - what do you guys out there find really
>romantic for a girlfriend to do to/for you?
>Sharon

My SO and I have enjoyed sending each other our favorite music.
If you are local to eachother, I dunno, no experience there.
-- 
 * Megalomania - n.  a delusional mental disorder that is marked by infantile *
 * feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur.  i.e. when you start saying *
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 * * * * * * * * * Tyler Yip, davros@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu * * * * * * * * * 
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ae498@yfn.ysu.edu (Dawn Bott)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 22:59:26 GMT


well...i know that i have a wealth of romantic songs that i
love to listen to over and over again..

but there is a song i particularly like: partly because of the
humour, partly because i think it is a TRUE "love song"
(i.e.  without the blinders of high romance)

It is from the play _PIPPIN_  and it's called
"I guess I'll miss the man".....

(feel free to hit Q N if you don't wish to sing along:)

I guess I'll miss the man
explain it if you can..
his face was far from fine..
but still i'll miss his face
and wonder if he's missing mine.

Some days he wouldn't say
a pleasant word all day
some days, he'd scowl and curse..
but there were other days
when he was really....
         ....even worse.

Some men are heroes
some men outshine the sun
some men are simple, good men..
this man
wasn't one.

And i won't miss his moods
his gloomy solitudes
his blunt, abrasive style...
But please don't get me wrong --
he was the best to come along..

In a long, long while.........


-- 
Irony is hygiene of the mind      --Elizabeth Bibesco
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: buccb@after.math.uiuc.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:42:36 GMT

Any of the love ballads by the John Coltrane Quartet rank high on the
list of romantic songs. "Moments in Love" by the Art of Noise has
to be on there too. "Come Rain or Shine" by Count Basie and John
Williams (I think) is one of my favorites. I used to sing it to my
ex all the time. I know there are others. I'll think of them later.

--
         Carlos, first-born son of Rodney, of the Chicago Butlers,
            Dragonslayer by birthright and heir to the throne.
 buccb@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  buccb@after.math.uiuc.edu  buccb@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
          University of Illinois 	     (217) 373-4781 Pager
          "People often condescend what they fail to comprehend...
         ...ignorance makes life easier. Learn to tolerate. Peace."
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Advice, consensus sought
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:18:09 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep3.234957.9243@bsu-ucs.uucp> 01ksdavis@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
...
>		I had a really bad break-up with my last serious girlfriend who
>happened to be two years younger than I.  She dumped me for a brain-dead foot-
>ball player.
>
>	Time passed, and here, two years later, on the same campus, in the same
>chemistry class, is my ex-girlfriend.
>
>	Over the summer I had read in the paper how she got an all-expense paid
>scholarship to another university, but here she is.  We talked a little bit
>(another one of my friends was present, who is of the talkative type).
>
>	During the time of our "talk" she had told me that she had went to my
>old dorm for my phone number (it just happens to be the current dorm I am
>in now.)   Once she obtained this, she said she called but I was never there.
>This checks out as my answering machine went on the fritz that night.
>
>	Also, after our talk she gave me her phone number.  I haven't called her
>yet, but I did sit next to her in class today.
>
>	What should I do?  Part of me wants to run away, as she has hurt me
>(emotionally) really bad before.  Yet, another part of me wants things as they
>were before I am not sure if I got this last part here worded right.
>
I know this is hard, but I actually think it is a simpler than it
seems. If I understand right, she has not yet said that she is
interested in being your girlfriend again. So, your immediate decision
is either to pretend she doesn't exist, or to be on friendly terms with
her. You have already started with being friendly, and I would suggest
that if you can continue with this, you should. It seems hard now,
but it will get easier. On the other hand, if you try to ignore her
completely, it won't get any easier until one of you leaves the
college. Also, if you feel anything like love toward her, you 
won't want to treat her badly, which is what ignoring would be.

Now, thinking ahead a little, you have a decision of whether you want
to be in some sort of relationship with her. Of course, if she does not
want to be in a relationship, then it is moot. But you probably want to
start thinking about it.  I would suggest that what you want to do is
try to imagine what sort of relationship would be acceptable to you
(try to be realistic), and then try to figure out if that relationship
is possible.  You will have to find out what her attitudes are to
figure this out. If you honestly think things can work, then pursue the
relationship. If not, let it be, and work on convincing yourself you
are better off waiting for someone who can give you what you want in a
relationship.

I wouldn't take the fact that she broke up with you to mean you should
not get involved with her, unless that breakup really seemed to be due
to mutual incompatibility. If she is as young as she sounds (18-20), 
she may have simply been too immature to sustain a serious relationship,
and again, if she is that young, she should have grown up a lot in two
years.

Michael.
From: bradl@informix.com (Brad Levy)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:04:06 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Tammy (tlr@penguins.East.Sun.COM) writes:
>
>I really don't think that "nice guys" are out in the cold.  Women could
>ask the same of men.  Why is it that they only "go after" bubble headed
>beach blondes with a figure that just won't quit (and nothing in that
>head but a bunch of peroxide)?  I really feel as if it is all in the
>perception.  You obviously haven't meet any of the right people for you
>hence, the feelings you are experiencing now.  Don't give up, there are
>people (of both sexes) who are asking these same questions and doing
>something about it.
>

Not all of us do go after the beach blondes - even though that is what a
lot of advertising money is trying to promote as "what we should be excited
by".  I think about what I look for in a potential RP, and even if I examined
only physical attributes (which I certainly don't - for me an RP would also
have to be a LP - (life partner)), I find "beach babe" not very appealing.
I want someone gentle, comfortable to hold and snuggle up with. Not all bone,
muscle, and bosom.  A face that will still know how to laugh when its old.
Eyes that still look for the wonder of little things unnoticed by those whose
attention is locked on the mirror. Someone who sees the beach not as a
backdrop and set against which they will look good, but a part of the world
to explore and feel an integral part of.  Fortunately, I think those who
are /would be high on my list are also not likely to be looking for only
the "beach hunks".  Now if those hunks and babes would just step out of the
way, it'd make it easier for the rest of us to find each other...

- brad
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From: wang@db.toronto.edu (Huaiqing Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Date: 13 Sep 92 02:34:09 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto

In article <88467@netnews.upenn.edu> rpatel@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Rachana D Patel) writes:
>References: <1992Sep10.114625.23230@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> <92254.111614PBK105@psuvm.psu.edu>
>Organization: University of Pennsylvania
>
>Here's a song that I think is very romantic.
>I thought I would post the lyrics for you guys to read.
>
>
>Groovy Kind of Love - Phil Collins
> 

Thanks Rachana, it's the most romantic song I can ever think of! I have
being looking for the Lyrics all over!

	-- Chen Wang
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Subject: Re: Romantic Songs Discussion list
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:28:43 GMT

In article <5570@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> slayer@gl.pitt.edu (Deborah) writes:
>In article <1992Sep07.164048.11037@spc.nl> stefan@spc.nl (Stefan Posthuma) writes:
>
>Romantic songs?
>
>How about...
>
>Yes there are so many songs out there for romantic people..
>My personal favorite is *Songbird* by Kenny G.
>
>His music just gets to you and makes you tingle.. Anything from
>Anita Baker is also wonderful..
>
>
>
>-- 
>May look a little young 
>So what's wrong ?
>You don't have to be old to be wise

 Excuse me, if I may, but Kenny G has more than Songbird that is a
romantic pieces...I have his Kenny G Live CD and I think they all are.
Same for Anita Baker..don't forget Roberta Flack........and Set the Night
To Music.

Anybody have others???

Thanks,
Scotto

kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu

"Born an Illini,
 Boilermaker by the grace of God"

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: mtompset@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Mark Tompsett)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Keywords: nice guy syndrome
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt.romance
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:17:32 GMT

In article <92Sep11.173423.15447@acs.ucalgary.ca> panlilio@acs.ucalgary.ca (Victor P. Panlilio) writes:
>In article <BuF7uE.A16@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> mtompset@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Mark Tompsett) writes:
>>Now I wonder why the BTR club died?
>What's BTR?

Well, it is short for BACHELOR TILL THE RAPTURE. :)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Subject: Re: Romantic songs
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:37:44 GMT

21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer) writes:

] >how about.....   Romantic songs for those in LDRs??
] >a few that come to mind:
] >"Weekend in New England"   Barry Manilow
] >"Nights are Forever without you"  England Dan and John For Coley
] >"Someday We'll Be Together"  Diana Ross and the Supremes
] >"Missing You"  Michael Bolton
] 
] "Come Monday" Jimmy Buffett

Okay - the song list comes around again!

"Telephone Song" The Vaughan Brothers (Stevie Ray & Jimmie)

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From: aatresa@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Subject: Re: Who gets the longer stick, men or women? ;)
Summary: Bleah. :/
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
Date: 15 Sep 1992 09:38 EST  

In article <BuLrI2.Ew@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose) writes...
> 
>I just want to know something - are there any women out there who face the kind
>of constant worry about the future that some of us guys do?  Or is the fact that
>~45% of the population are female enough, topped off with the fact that women in
>our society aren't expected to ask guys out, but that we have to find some way
>of introducing ourselves, demonstrating that we have romantic intentions toward
>someone, etcetera?  Sometimes I think we *really* have the short end of the
>stick here... ...oh well, who ever said life was egalitarian? :) So, for about
>20% of the male population, have a nice slow life, there's no one out there for


You talk about 20% of the men not being able to find women because of a 
shortage of women.  I thought the last couple of censi (*MY* version of a 
plural of census) said that women outnumbered men.  Sounds like you *guys* 
are the ones in shortage.

-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Younger men
Reply-To: oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:17:59 GMT

I'd like to exchange some email with any older women involved with younger men,
with at least a 7 year age difference.  I have a few questions, like who
initiated, any problems, how long has it lasted, etc.

I find that the men in my life just get younger and younger, and I could use
some advice!  Even if it's only a book recommendation....

Thanks
Cheryl oopcv@trex.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: buick@belay (Patrick D. Buick)
Subject: Re: QUESTION CONCERNING RELATIONSHIPS
Organization: Belay Enterprises Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:15:11 GMT

In article <92253.224950ACPS7083@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> <ACPS7083@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca> writes:
>QUESTION FOR THE EXPERIENCED MEN/WOMEN:
>Are ladies nowadays more straight-forward in either rejecting
>     or accepting love relationships?

So it seems to me... YES.

>And If so, what should the quiet and shy type men do to show their feelings
>to ladies of that nature??
>

I generally find out the first time I ask them for coffee.  So, just ask
them out for coffee... it *will* come up in the discussion if they feel
that is what you want... assuming that they even agree to go to coffee.

Patrick


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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:37:49 -0400 
From: "Pamela J. Bernhardt" <pb2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Problems with [V]LDR's
	<s#8y=bk@rpi.edu>
Distribution: alt

Hi.
I just came back from a six month stay in Great Britain.  My belovedwas
here in Pittsburgh.  
How do you do it?

Cry at first.  I know this sounds ridiculous but the worst thing I did
was keep it in.  Then when I finally spoke to him I cried the whole time.
Get MCI - Their rates are the best. (for England Anyway)
LETTERS- Write every day, and make sure your other writes too.  For a
while I wrote every day and he didn't and that caused problems.
And talk to people who understand....
I'm here - I read email every day or at least every other day,
Good luck.
Pam

"And even though I know how very far apart we are
It helps to think we might be wishing on the same bright star."
From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Who gets the longer stick, men or women? ;)
Summary: Bleah. :/
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:37:13 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


I just want to know something - are there any women out there who face the kind
of constant worry about the future that some of us guys do?  Or is the fact that
~45% of the population are female enough, topped off with the fact that women in
our society aren't expected to ask guys out, but that we have to find some way
of introducing ourselves, demonstrating that we have romantic intentions toward
someone, etcetera?  Sometimes I think we *really* have the short end of the
stick here... ...oh well, who ever said life was egalitarian? :) So, for about
20% of the male population, have a nice slow life, there's no one out there for
you (or me), so you'll just have to drag yourself out of bed in the morning,
chug off to work, come home, watch TV for a while, read a book for a while,
chat on the net for a while, or whatever, and go back to bed.  Fun, hmm?  I
know I really look forward to it... ...oh, and if you're depressed about *your*
future, just pretend you never read this or that those figures for relative
populations aren't right at all, okay?  Why the hell am I writing this message,
anyway?  <sigh>  I think I'll go see a psychiatrist - maybe I'll find a nice
one who will let me have a crush on her for a while...

Wulf                    | "Martha, it's another one of those CS majors asking
jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu |  if cow chips are pin-compatible with 68040s..."
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