From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Subject: Re: Flash! Environmentalists switch off Earth's volcanoes (was: The Fr
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:15:24 GMT

harryo@cbnewse.cb.att.com (harold.r.holm) writes:

>In article <92347.033853MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu>, Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> In article <1992Dec12.023549.763@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, harryo@cbnewse.cb.att.com
>> (harold.r.holm) says:
>> 
>> Oh, boy. This one was a real humdinger...
>> 
>> >In article <1992Nov28.200433.27906@seq.uncwil.edu>, session@seq.uncwil.edu    k
>> >>
>> >> What on earth are you talking about. The unusually cold summer was
>> >> acurately PREDICTED by several leading atmospheric scientists. The
>> >> reason is simple. Ashe from Mt. Pinatubo shielding the earth from the
>> >> sun. However, these scientists also said that this effect will be short
>> >> lived (after all the ashe does eventually wash out) and it will back to
>> >> business as usual with temperatures going back on an upward trend,
>> >> which they have been on for over 100 years.
>> 
>> >So, once the ash washes out of the atmosphere, global warming goes
>> >right on its merry way, never to be interrupted again??

I missed your ignorant rebuttal to my comments as it apparently was followed
up to a newsgroup which I do not read. At any rate, Mark quite adequately
brought out the point that I never said that somehow Mt. Pinatubo was some
kind of freak of nature and that nothing else could ever effect the process
known as "global warming". Read on, McDuff.

>> Clue: who said it wouldn't be interrupted again? Reading the quoted
>> text very carefully I saw no assertion that there would be no more
>> volcanoes or other processes interfering with the greenhouse effect.
>> The following inferences come from no source but a fevered imagination.
>> 
>OK, now scroll up and *read what he said* again: back to business as
>usual, with temperatures going back on an upward trend.  Now you tell
>us:  how does that assertion *allow* for any more interruptions of
>the sort being discussed here?  "Business as usual" means just that...
>merrily the warming trend just rolls along, and no interlopers such
>as volcanoes allowed.  Sheesh, not only do some of YOU PEOPLE read into
>some of these things what's not there; in cases when it *is* there, 
>you can't see the forest for the trees.  No wonder Rush (and I) have to
>attach the meaning *for* you, as he so often states....

Business as usual does not mean that there can never again be an anomoly.
Just how do you think it does? Are you really the jerk you seem to be?
Business as usual means that the effects of the volcano are finite and
when they subside the OBSERVED trend of higher global temperatures will
continue. I never said anything about that never again in the history
of the Earth that such an event, ie, the temporary sustaining of "global
warming" by the effects of a volcanic eruption, will never, ever, happen
again. And, MERELY that I didn't EXPLICITELY say this does not mean that
I feel that such an event could never again occur.

>>   Yes, folks,
>> >after a couple of billion years' worth of volcanic eruptions, the
>> >environmentalists have suddenly declared that Mt. Pinatubo will be
>> >the *last one ever*, and that from now on, no other active volcanoes
>> >will be allowed to interfere with the big, bad global warming boogeyman

Oh, puh-leaze!!! NO ONE, absofuckinglutly, NO ONE, is "suddenly declaring"
that global warming will never again be affected by acts of nature such
as volcanic eruptions. I never implied such a thing and would NEVER imply
such a thing. YES!!! YES!!! YES!!! FUTURE VOLCANIC ERUPTIONS CAN AND WILL
HAVE SOME EFFECT ON THE PROCESS KNOWN AS "GLOBAL WARMING"!!! SO FUCKING WHAT?

Pardon me.

Now, if you have an INTELLIGENT comment to make on this debate, please make
it. Otherwise, SHUT UP!

>Attach meaning mode on:
>Mt. Pinatubo is only one of a *number* of active volcanoes on the Earth
>today.  Did you *know* that?  What, Pinatubo is supposed herald some 
>sort of swan song on the geologic front?

Did you know that this is the first time this century that Mt. Pinatubo
erupted? Do you know that Mt. Pinatubo's eruption was larger than any
other eruption in the past century? You need to start thinking in terms
of geologic time frames.

>  And what about the volcano(es)
>after that, and the one(s) after that, etc, etc.???  How has it been
>demonstrated that the Greenhouse Effect *will* ultimately prevail?  

The two do not go together.

>This is climate and atmoshpherics balancing each other, not a doggone
>celestial arm-wrestling tournament with a clear-cut predictable champ.  

Oh? You have some divine information we are not privy to? It is utter
arrogance to imply that man could never have some effect on climate or
the atmosphere.

>>  How great to know that the environ-
>> >mentalists secretly have the power to switch off some of the strongest
>> >forces in nature---at will, and forever!!!   After all, they can't
>> >allow nature itself to get in the way of their *plans* for regimenting what
>> >humanity does economically now, can they???

Mpre utter bovine fecal matter based on invalid assumptions.

>> You forgot the bit about how the environmentalists have planted hidden
>> cameras and microphones in your house, and follow you everywhere you go.

Yes, I did forget that. I wonder why? Could it be that it is more bovine
fecal matter?

>> >Yup, no more volcanoes to worry about--ever--now that the 'Cause-We-Say-So
>> >Environmentalist Movement is exerting its secret power over the biosphere.

You really are a jerk, you know that?

I won't even comment on the childish comment which came after that.

-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington (Alumnus)
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
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