From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Subject: Re: Considering switching to IBM
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:35:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.035446.15509@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel) writes:
>Once again, I do not know how my follow ups are going to other groups besides
>advocacy, but anyway:

Well, I edited the newsgroups line so that follow ups to this stupid thread
should be confined to advocacy, thus sparing the readers of other groups form
dying in the stench of such bullshit.

>Regarding Dave Conners' garbage about the Amiga and 040:

Which was I think regarding some of your own garbage, but I digress....

>did you actually try any serious apps for both the Amiga and the IBM? obviously
>not. And many processors can in some way or another be called multiprocessing.
>there are many multiprocessed 386's out there. But the 486 is truely a
>multiprocessing processor. It can be done with others, but it is harder, less

Why don't you try to figure out what context to use the word "multiprocessing"
in, and then stick with it.  

A 6502 in an Apple ][ can be forced to run a multiprocessing operating system
(not to be confused with multiprocessor, which I think you've already done a
few times) if someone were to write one.  OS/9 running on an ancient Radio 
Shack CoCo actually was a multiprocessing OS running on a humble 6809.

>common, and less efficient. And about the floating point speed, don't you mean

Harder...more common....more efficient...from the earth shattering technical
proficiency your posts seem to indicate, the most competent and informed use of
these terms that you can make is when quoting BYTE magazine.

>MFLOPS? What does 3.5 MIPS tell you? And anyway, the 25 MHz 040 is only

3.5 MIPS tells me pretty much dick all when left to be interpreted in a
complete vacuum.

>slightly faster than the 33 MHz 486 in raw speed floating point
>benchmarks. But that is just raw speed, any processor with the needed 
>instructions for the test, which is not a whole lot, will do fine. But with a

What the hell do you mean by "the needed instructions for the test"?  You
sound utterly clueless.  You're lost.  Please, post this shit to /dev/null.
We're tired of looking at it.

You've yet to contribute to a thread anything that indicated any level of
technical knowledge.  You've engaged in enormous generalizations, mild to
severe technical blunders, and baseless flag waving.  Your posts are useless.

>real application, it will be in a sorry state, cause the better the instruction
>set, the better off the app will be. And a 50 MHz 486 will beat out an 040 
>in floating point benchmarks anyway.

What does "the better the instruction set mean"?  Most RISC instruction sets
give assembly programmers brian haemhorrages, from what I've heard.  That's
why it's so nice that the compiler output for RISC chips is quite optimizable.
And apps running on RISC chips don't seem to be in sorry states.

And a 50MHz 486 beats an 040 of what clock speed at doing what?  If you tell
me it beats the 040 33 MHz, my only response would be "God I hope so with
1-2/3 the clock speed it sure as hell better."

Fairly widely documented fact.  At the same clock speeds the 486 and 040 are
pretty close for integer performance.  On floating point performance, the 486
tends to lose fairly noticeably.

Your endless babbling about "real apps", "sorry states" and "multiprocessing"
just indicates you have never been near an Operating Systems course, or an
operating systems textbook in your entire life.  Oh, pardon me, I should
probably add "microprocessors course and text" to the list to.  In fact, it's
possible you've never been near any HUMAN with a clue, although you may have
been, and just totally failed to learn anything.

To reiterate:  Your posts are useless and content free.  And they're going 
to every Amiga newsgroup.  Please, netters, stop following up to this guy...
"He who argues with a fool just gets a sore mouth...."

>P.S. If I find out how to direct these things to advocacy only, I will do so.

Edit the fucking newsgroups line.  Simple enough.


-- 
 Jerry Kuch (jerry@cs.mcgill.ca) | "Sic Gorgianus Allos Subjectatus Nunc."
 "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
  Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet."
                  --- M. Burns  "Treehouse of Horror II"
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