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From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: ALAN PARSON'S PROJECT
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:24:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr10.232350.13018@bradley.bradley.edu> falcon@buhub.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood) writes:
>all of you APP fans probably know this but i didn't see it mentioned in any
>of the posts in this string...  Tales of Mystery and Imagination was
>re-released in 1987...  they remixed it using a digital system and made
>some minor changes to the work...  I haven't heard the 1976 version but the
>1987 version is awesome!!!  sorry about the sidetrack there... Any one just
>getting into APP should definitely get it...

I have two complaints about the re-release though.  One is that added some
(unneccessary, in my opinion) guitar fills, that I think detract from the
flow of some of the songs.  Secondly, this might be a problem with just my
copy, but the liner notes are all screwed up, with pages stapled out of order,
some missing entirely, etc...

Anyway, it's probably still worth getting if you really like "Tales...",
the production is excellent.

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 00:13:59 EDT
From: <BMK112@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.config
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.music.rush
 <1992Apr11.023943.10421@acsu.buffalo.edu>

In article <1992Apr11.023943.10421@acsu.buffalo.edu>, becker@acsu.buffalo.edu
(Don Becker) says:

>Personally, I don't want to see the creation of this group for the following
>reasons:

>        1.) There has been a lot of discussion of the group, but has the
>        traffic been so overwhelming that a new group is warranted?

>        2.) If Rush gets their group, odds are that most fans of other groups
>        will want alt groups for that group. I objected to a.m.acdc for the
>        same reason, but I think Rush is a lot more popular, and the passing
>        of a.m.rush will have a much bigger effect on USENET.

>Don't get me wrong. I am a Rush fan. And if a.m.rush is created, I'll read it.
>Of course, shortly after the creation, I will push for alt.music.marillion
>to be created.

>--Don

I can think of a couple of side benefits to having this group, and for the
creation of other groups as well.

1.   Significant reduction in flame wars and hate mail. These subgroups would
     let people have a net where they could find useful discussions and
     information about the groups of their choice. People who don't like the
     group don't have to read it and worry about its mail spilling over into
     their group or the general net (alt.r-n-r).

2.   Sometimes, people just browse through the net to find articles on just
     one or two groups. This would avoid making them go through everything that
     is on the net looking for new stuff that may not be there. This would give
     them a place where they can go and find stuff but avoid tying up the
     general net and pissing people off. If you want to push for the creation
     of a Marillon subgroup and can get enough votes for it, best of luck to
     you. It will make both you and a hell of a lot of Marillon fans much
     happier.

Of course, if a subgroup is created for a band that you don't like, DON'T be a
prick and start flame wars there. Suaron serves as an example for that.

Just putting in my two cents,

Brian at Penn State University
From: cs2532af@carina.unm.edu (Steve Gonzales)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: McAuley Schenker Group (Robin McAuley)
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:17:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.0cxj+s#
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque



	Fans of MSG and singer Robin McAuley who are interested in 
	his recording before MSG:

	1980 GRAND PRIX	There For None to See
		with extra track KEEP ON BELIEVING (live)

	1981 GRAND PRIX Samaurai
		with extra track: One Five Five


	These also feature Uriah Heep keyboard player Phil Lanzon

	Send $15.00 per title for a cassette copy (p&h inclusive)
	to:

		Steve Gonzales
		1510 13th Street
		Washington, DC 20005
From: srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Rush's YYZ  (trivia tidbits)
Summary: Look at those lyrics again.
Keywords: rush
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:51:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.175109.11501@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v107rb57@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Dean Thomas Sebastian Carrano) writes...
>"We do this, we do that", etc...I don't think that's personal at all - by
>attributing his feelings to the whole human race instead of to himself, he's
>*distancing* himself from them.  It comes off sounding like a psychology
>textbook, and I can't really get into it.  The Rush lyrics I like are
>the ones that don't have this distancing technique, like "Distant Early
>Warning", "Entre Nous", "Red Barchetta", etc.  To me, these seem more
>heartfelt...Comments appreciated...
> 

I have to agree, the more personal lyrics that Peart writes tend to be the 
most powerful on the album...such as "Ghost of a Chance" on RTB.  A 
somewhat drippy love song, it does touch on the personal disbelief of 
faith, destiny, and fate in interpersonal relationships, etc.  Likewise, 
"Available Light" on Presto...talking about personal memories, reminisence, 
and such.  Like you said, when Peart generalizes, it I don't feel like I 
can really relate to the song.

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From: rexm@teal.csn.org (Rex Mammel)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Lush concert dates??
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:40:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: csn.1992Apr8.234012.10423
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

In article <1992Apr8.104917.2873@arizona.edu> menze@cs.arizona.edu (Ed Menze) writes:
>Does anyone have a list of tour dates for Lush or know if/when they're
>going to be visiting Phoenix in the near future?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ed



LUSH WILL BE IN DENVER APRIL 21 8PM AT ROCK ISLAND
8 PM  ALL AGES  TUESDAY
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From: cs2532af@triton.unm.edu (Steve Gonzales)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: ATTENTION IRONMAIDEN FANS (Janick Gers)
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:28:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.ylwjl-p
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


Attention fans of Ironmiden / Bruce Dickenson guitarist
Janick Gers.

For sale	1980 release of White Spirit with Janick Gers on guitar
		Malcolm Pearson  keyboards	Bruce Ruff vocals
		Grame Crallan    drums		Phil Brady bass

	midnight chaser			no reprievce
	red skies			don't be fooled
	high upon high			fool for the gods
	way of the kings
					extra tracks:
					backs to the grind
					cheetah

	also available:

	with Gillan :	Double trouble
			Magic  with extra tracks.

	to purchase a cassette tape of these recordings, send $15.00
	per title to:
				Steve Gonzales
				1510 13th Street
				Washington, DC 20005

	price includes CrO2 cassette and postage and handling.
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From: psr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Paul S. Randal)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Commitments II album....
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:53:50 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

Hi out there,

I saw the second Commitments cd for sale today and what I'd like to
know is, is it as good as the first Commitments cd ? ie is it the same
style of music and is it worth buying?

Cheers,

Paul.

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From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.music newsgroups
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:14:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.16APR92151422
Reply-To: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a3

In article <1992Apr15.214531.20513@seas.gwu.edu>, maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple Moriji) writes...
>After reading all the reponses about the reorganization of the
>music newsgroups, how about the following changes:

I say that the "rock-n-roll" name should be retained.  It's not that
long, and clarifies the subject matter much better than just "rock"
alone.

Also, for all intents and purposes, alt.skinheads is a music group, even
though the name may imply a broader range of discussion.

Finally, I have two ideas for new rock-n-roll.* groups, but I have been
swamped, as usual.  When I have the time, I'll post the details over on
alt.config, and if you wish to make it a part of this proposal, so be
it.

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BITnet: FSSPR@ALASKA****Snail: P.O. Box 83381, Fairbanks, AK  99708-3381
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I'll do a disclaimer when they pry my cold dead hands from the keyboard.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: rush trivia tidbits
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:07:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: netnews.73176
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Can someone tell me who does the rap on RTB?


-- 
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From: hunter@iastate.edu (The Hunter)
Subject: Re: The Ten Most Overrated Rock Bands
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 08:03:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.210149.3514@iscsvax.uni.edu> lindaman4833@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> The guy who wrote the article [stuff deleted]
> Here is what I feel is the definitive list of the 10 most
> overrated rock bands. >
> 1) Nirvana---
> 2) R.E.M.---
> 3) The Mall-Rat Groups (NKOTB, Marky Mark and the Funky Bunch, Tiffany,
> Debbie Gibson)---Whoever told these people they had talent were nuts!!! 
> 4) Queensryche---
> 5) The "Mousse Heads" (Richard Marx and others)---
> 6) EMF---
> 7) (MC) Hammer and Vanilla Ice---
>
> To make a long story short, here are the last 3 Dreadful Dopes:
>
> 8) Cher and any other actor/actress/model turned fake singer
>
> 9) Megadeath (a.k.a. Megadorks)
>
> And last, but certainly least...
>
> 10) Nelson
> 

I can agree with a lot of the bands and performers you put on your list,
but you are _way_ off the mark with your slam to Nelson.  If anything,
Nelson is underrated.  Yes, I said underrated because too many people
like you write them off as just some teeny-bopping bubble-gum rock
group.  Most people with serious music tastes (unfortunately) won't
give them the chance.

Well I'll tell you something.  I've listened to the Nelson album (I
believe it is titled _After_the_Rain_), the *whole* thing, not
just the songs that MTV played to death, and it is quite good.  I can't
name off any particular songs at the moment, but there are a couple
of gems that didn't get any airplay.

Hopefully, someone will read my post and reconsider listening to Nelson.
I hate teeny-bopper music, I like music with substance.  But I gave
Nelson a chance by listening to my girlfriends tape and I was pleasantly
surprised.

          Signed,












-- 
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+ mail to "hunter@iastate.edu"        between me and a madman                 +
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sunday, 12 Apr 1992 20:44:00 EDT
From: <BMK112@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Suaron's life
 <MISHAE.92Apr8143331@hulk.hut.fi>

In article <MISHAE.92Apr8143331@hulk.hut.fi>, mishae@niksula.hut.fi (Mikael
Eriksson) says:
                                OC
This is how people really feel about Suaron. Mikael Eriksson, the dude who
wrote this article, should get a medal! (this comes from alt.r-n-r.metal,
Suaron's homeland. Obviously, he's having problems everywhere!)

> Now, Suaron, think about this for a little while. By constantly
>trying to draw attention to yourself, and always trying to give us a
>picture of yourself as some kind of Metal God, you accomplish quite
>the opposite. I've followed your postings for a while, and the only
>impression I've got is that of a spoiled child, who must have constant
>attention, and will do anything to make people talk about him. Also,
>just like a spoiled child, you never come up with something valuable,
>I don't think I've ever read an interesting, informative article 'bout
>metal from you.

> Another picture that I'm getting is that of a poor, lonesome jerk,
>who doesn't have any friends, and therefore keeps making himself seen
>on a public network, since there is no way of shutting you up. At
>least this way, you get an opportunity to voice your opinion, which
>would undoubtedly be denied from you in an normal conversation. I
>suppose you've seen quite a few metalheads on the street, wish you
>were like those, but haven't got the guts to join them - over the
>network nobody knows what a wimp you probably are in reality. You see,
>I don't think any true metalfan would degrade himself to the rantings
>you give yourself to. A wimp, on the other hand, would feel forced to
>constantly try to prove to himself that he is cooler and badder than
>the rest of the gang, which is exactly what you're up to all the time.

> Assholes like you give metal a bad name. When people hear about
>metal, they automatically connect it to bawling, braindead teenagers,
>who don't know how to keep up an intelligent discussion, with
>wellbased arguments. That's you in a nutshell, I've never seen one
>single reasonable argument in your writings - you just produce a whole
>lot of nonsense bullshit.

> Of course you'll realize that this goes equally well for the retarded
>little brat called Maple. I'm know that both of you have opinions, but
>none of you can express them in an understandable way. That makes you
>totally uninteresting, and damned annoying, in my book.
>--


>Cheers,

>            Misha

>         ------------------------------------------------------
>        |                                                     |
>        |   I'd like to point out that the article you just   |
>        |  read didn't contain ANY of my opinions, neither    |
>        |  any of my employers. It merely contained true      |
>        |  facts, and can therefore not be argued against.    |
>        |                                                     |
>         -----------------------------------------------------
From: jepp@iesd.auc.dk (Jesper Petersen)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Gandalf - new band with Steve Hackett!!! (know anything?!?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:01:35 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


In article <1992Apr13.213131.7661@cs.mcgill.ca> narpet@cs.mcgill.ca (Greg WARD) writes:

>   Folks -- I was in a music store the other day, and saw on their "Upcoming
>   Releases" board a band called Gandalf, and underneath was written
>   "With Steve Hackett!!!"  (My exclamation marks, being a Hackett fan.)
>   Does anyone know anything about this band or album? 

Gandalf is *not* a band, but a german multi instrumentalist and 
'new age' composer.
He has put out 4 or 5 albums, which defenitely worth a listen!
I find this hackett-gandalf constellation very interesting indeed, and
I'm really looking forward to it!

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From: LPR100@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: CD packaging
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:56:00 GMT
 <1992Apr13.153321.1@acad3.alaska.edu>
 <1992Apr14.033805.22535@news.iastate.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

If covers like Sting's _The Soul Cages_ are the future of CD covers,
I think I'll go back to cassettes.
   Seriously, what's wrong with putting CDs into reusable plastic
holders, like most cassettes, for sale in stores? You don't have to spend
time trying to open the damn thing and you don't have extra land fill
(even though CD boxes make good dormatory wall hangings.) Cardboard
covers will not last long at all, and are annoyingly cheesy. The
plastic cases now used will probably never end up in landfills.
Why are so many artists whining so much?

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Tony Levin, Bass & Stick Player
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:30:17 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Apr15.150638.4182@nic.unh.edu> tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb) writes:
>
>   You were, really? I think Tony's an incredible player myself, as he has a
>tremendous amount of talent and ability, but personally, I'd much rather see
>Squire in Yes. Don't get me wrong, Tony was great on the ABWH and Union albums,
>but Squire is THE bassist for Yes. He's incredible. 

I think they'd complement each other perfectly.  And I think two
bassists is more reasonable than two drummers.  Here's my "Ultimate
Yes" lineup...

Anderson - lead vocals & backup guitar
Squire   - lead bass and backup vocals
Levin    - stick and backup bass
Howe     - Guitars, Mandolin, and all his other neat sounds & backup vocals
Rabin    - Electric guitar & lead vocals
White    - Drums & percussion (what else?)
Wakeman  - Keyboards

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From: bianc@next19pg2.wam.umd.edu (WierdnesS)
Subject: Re: Poison are posers
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:21:38 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.040139.202@seas.gwu.edu> maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple  
Moriji) writes:
> Who cares who joins Poison.  They will still be posers.
> Bret Michaels can't write songs worth shit.  The same goes to
> the other losers in the band.  Bobby Doll and Ricki Rocket are
> just the band ornaments.  Why does that drummer stand up
> all the time, anyway?  Is he showing off or something?
> Yes, that must be it.  And now CC Devil is trying to be the Jimi
> Hendrix of the 90s.  This is pathetic.
> 
> Why don't you Poison posers listen to real music like Motorhead,
> Suicidal Tendencies, and Judas Priest?
> 
> lADA,
> 
> Maple
> 
> --
Because then, they'd be forced into alt.rock-n-roll.metal
 
>   
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple Moriji)
Subject: Re: Let's get rocked
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:53:56 GMT


Daniel.S.Richman@dartmouth.edu (Daniel S. Richman) writes:
: 
: PHIL COLLEN BEATS THE SHIT OUT OF KERRY KING.  (Kerry King is one of
: Slayer's guitarists,btw, for all of you who may not know that)

You are full of shit, you poser.  Kerry King can play so many crunching
riffs and at such an incredible speed.  Phil Collen, on the other hand,
can barely play the guitar at all.  He likes to play one note and bend
it through an entire song.  You call that good music?

: This statement is not an opinion--it's fact from a guitar player who's
: heard BOTH Collen and King several times.

No, it ain't a fact!  Those "guitar players" that you mention are poser
musicians.  They only like songs that have stupid sing-along lyrics
and gay riffs.

: So, Suaron, stay in rnr.metal, OK?

Not OK!  Suaron can post wherever he wants.  He is my Master and is
the Dark Lord of the Metal Universe.  It is our mission to destroy
posers.

C++ ya,

Maple

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From: weitzman@cambridge.oracorp.com (Adam Weitzman)
Subject: Re: Top ten alternative G'n'R names (was Re: Axl Rose Sucks)
Organization: ORA Corp, 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 16:37:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.014331@IASTATE.EDU> alib@IASTATE.EDU (Richard A Brown) writes:
>There seem to be enough Guns 'n' Roses haters here to make this
>an interesting thread...
>Just for fun, what are your favorite alternative names for
>G'n'R (if we get more than ten, we can talk about a top ten list)?
>
>I have heard:
>
>Duds and Losers
>Puds and Posers
>Runny Noses
>Prunes and Raisins
>
>Anyone?

Comes and Goeses
Runs in Hoses
Buns in Toasters
Nuns in Poses
Snores and Dozes
Goons and Poseurs
Chunks in Blowses

And my personal favorite:

F***in' Hosers

(all of the above are puns, in doses)

(The lead singer's voice also reminds me of the phrase Hacks All Prose.)

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