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From: amym@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Amy Moseley Rupp)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Hypertension in Late Pregnancy--Induction?
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:00:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: oakhill.1992Oct13.170057.27344
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.

Well, my pregnancy had progressed pretty well until last Thursday when I
was admitted to the hospital for high blood pressure.  I am a chronic
hypertensive, meaning I had HTN (short for high bp) before pregnancy.

The HTN became suddenly worse that day and I got a trip to the hospital.
Very strange to be all set to go to work and instead, they tell you at
the doctor's to go straight to the ER!

The good news is that the HTN is not tremendously bad yet, and there are
no serious signs of preeclampsia (slight protein in the urine, but no
swelling etc.).  The bad news is that I am supposed to bedrest out the
remainder of the pregnancy.

I asked the dr. if I had a chance of being early, and she said definitely.
If my HTN gets worse, the baby will be delivered ASAP (I am now 34+ weeks).
If I am stable, I will likely be induced 2-3 weeks before due date.

Has anyone out there had a similar experience?  I don't look forward to 
induction, which Bradley teachers have labelled as hell, but on the
other hand it would be a relief to get this baby out of my (failing) body
as healthy as possible.  Baby has done well on ultrasound and NSTs, which
is a relief.  Also it is a jumbo baby, weighing 5 1/4 lbs at 32 weeks.

The bedrest part is sucky, but since it is for such a short time (relatively)
I don't feel so bad about it.  The induction is what has me worried....
the PDR on oxytocin is positively terrifying.

Any experiences welcome!


-- 
Amy Moseley Rupp			Needed:  one witty, appropriate,
amym@oakhill.sps.mot.com		businesslike .sig that will perfectly
(512) 329-7117				reflect my philosophy of life and will
7 weeks and counting			fit in four lines or less.
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: d8b@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Boudria)
Subject: Re: Juggling Work and Family
Organization: Raytheon Company, Portsmouth, RI
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:09:12 GMT

In article <2622@tymix.Tymnet.COM> dhouge@quasar.Tymnet.COM (Diana Houge) writes:
>I had to return to work part time when my little boy was 8 weeks old. 
>(Markus Adam Houge - born June 15, 1992, 8lbs. 3oz. ;)  
>My company does have the family leave policy, but taking that time means
[stuff deleted]

Oh, God Diana.  I know exactly how you feel.  I went back to work full
time when my son was 10 months old.  I hated it.  I was in the same 
situation as you however and had no choice financially.  My husband had
just opened his own business (I found out I was pregnant the day after
we signed the loan papers - after three years of trying - It figures, right!)
Anyway, we had no medical insurance so I had no choice but to return to
work.  It was very, very difficult, and like you, I cried often.  My husband
was very understanding but it was still difficult.  I found a good sitter
and that helped.  She has one boy my son's age and one a year older.  He's
six now and just entered Kindergarten.  He has stayed with this same sitter
until this year when I had to make different arrangements to accommodate
KG (the sitter lives in a different town quite a ways away).

The weird thing I noticed was that my child has a much easier time handling
things than her children.  By things I mean, change, disruption, anything
out of the ordinary.  We went on a quickie vacation together to D.C. and
my son just went with the flow, enjoying everything.  Her kids were much
more prone to major upset at the least little thing (traffic jams, waiting
in lines, not getting their juice immediately, etc.).  And the worst part
was they whined constantly and these kids are 6 and 7!  

The point I'm trying to make is stick with it.  Your first priority, of course,
is your son so be sure to find a sitter you trust and who will give him loads
of cuddles and hugs during the day while you're gone.  Your second priority
is you.  Accept the fact that you're doing what you have to do.  There will
be things you will miss but there will also be many more things that only
you will enjoy (as only Mom can).  Get rid of the guilt, leave it behind.
You can't change it, so it's not helping.  Just don't think about it.  And
remember it's OK to cry during the day (God knows I did alot).  You miss
him, it's natural.  Gradually, with time, it'll get easier and your son is
sure to grow into a well rounded, healthy little boy who handles lifes
little twists and turns with an adventurous outlook, eager to accept all
that is offered (as my guy does).

Good luck,

Denise

P.S.  If you need a helping hand, a shoulder to cry on, or a sympathetic
ear, just email me.  I'd be happy to talk.
From: traite@sdac.harvard.edu (Shirley Traite)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: HYPOCRISY of Public School Prayer
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:05:57 GMT
Organization: Statistical & Data Analysis Center, Harvard University


While I disagree with the *tone* of Robert E. McElwaine  post
 RE: "HYPOCRISY of Public School Prayer", I *AM* concerned 
about any one religion imposing their prayers on a public
who many or many not accept the tenets of that religion. 
 
snorthc@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Stephen Northcutt - K31) writes:

 .>Sigh, those nasty Christians, we keep scrubbing them out....  :-)
  .>How does one impose prayer?  More likely the proposal is
 .>to allow prayer, we certainly can't have that!   :-0

When  a single religion's prayers are imposed (or allowed) 
in a PUBLIC INSTITUTION  then the basic tenets of
separation of Church and  State and freedom of religion 
(guaranteed by the US Constitution) are violated. 
Prayer is  *personal*.  Religion is *personal*.
 
.>I mean, what is there to pray about anyway.... there certainly
 .>aren't any aggressive bullies in public schools, we've
 .>proven that beyond a shadow of doubt (they are all myth right :-)
 .>Drugs, guns, STDs, pregnancy, no sweat.  Climbing academic
 .>scores, the USA has the top students in the world right!
 
Looking to public prayer as a solution to society's ills is 
simplistic.

IMHO, I really don't undertand why people of one religious
faith feel it is necessary to try to convert/ impose their beliefs
on those who do not share in their beliefs.  People can and do live moral
and meaningful lives in *all* religions (and with no religion. )

OK, I'm ready for the flames!  (No, I don't believe in Hell. :-))

___
Shirley Traite (traite@sdac.harvard.edu) |I only speak for myself.
Statistical Programmer                   |
SDAC/Biostatistics Dept.                 |
Harvard Sch. of Public Health            |
From: kapa@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (k.a.perkins)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Oh - I'm BIG because I'm pregnant...
Summary: another twin scare
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:47:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsc.1992Oct15.214709.16329
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct1.180634.19005@colorado.edu>, mwalker@taimyr.Colorado.EDU (Marilyn Walker) writes:
> I wanted to THANK the many many people who wrote to me in response to my
> question about carrying "4 weeks too large" (according to the measurement
> technique, which does not have great significance).
< stuff deleted >
> To end on (what I find) an amusing note: At my previous appointment he felt
> quite sure that the head was pointed down, and I agreed based on the movements
> I had been feeling.  So to try to reassure me, he felt again down low and
> said that sure enough, there was the head.  Then he felt high and said:
> Hmmm, well that also feels like it could be the head.  Sometimes the head and
> butt are hard to tell apart.  I smiled and said: Or, it could be the OTHER
> head!  Causing my wide-eyed hubby to break into hysterical laughter at the
> thought.

I had to laugh when I read this.   When I was 5 1/2 months pregnant, my
doctor also told me he thought I was "large" for baby's gestational age.
An ultra sound revealed nothing except one large, anatomically correct
baby.  I was recently admitted to the hospital while on an out of
state weekend trip because of sudden vaginal bleeding.
The hospital called in the ultra sound tech, and while we were waiting
the ob resident brought up the little ultra sound machine to take a
look at the baby.  The machine had been recently recalibrated to see
a larger window than usual.  The result was that when she ran the
scanner down one side of my uterus, she saw a baby, and when she ran
the scanner down the other side, she also saw a baby.   She suggested
there might be 2 babies, and that took my mind off a lot of the other
worries I'd been having!  It was almost worth it to see the look on
my husband's face!  However, it was just a problem with the machine,
and when we went upstairs to the ultra sound tech, she only found
the one baby.  

It was really the only bright spot in the whole ordeal, except for
finding out that the baby was okay and that I could go home, I
didn't have to stay in an out of state hospital for the remaining
7 weeks of my pregnancy.

Kate Perkins
From: smergen@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Sandra Mergen)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Fisher Price carseat recall
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:42:39 GMT


I have 2 Fisher Price car seats, model # 9101.  One was made in
1992, which Fisher Price told me was OK.  The other was made in
Oct 30, 1991, which Fisher Price told me that where the seat belts
meet in the back of the car seat, at the connector, the seat belts
can work themselves loose and come off, causing the child to fly
out of the car seat.  They will send me a plastic part to go over
the connector.  They said that it would take 7-10 working days, and
to go ahead and use the car seat in the meantime.

I'm also going to check my other car seat anyway, because if they
look alike where the connector is, I'm going to ask for the plastic
cover for that car seat too. 

Fisher Price told me that for other car seats, built earlier, there
is a problem with a broken part inside the shield that prevents a
secure buckling.  I guess I don't have that problem.  Wheww!!

The toll free numbers are really hard to get through.  You just have
to keep trying.  They are 800-322-3457 for 800-432-5437.  My friend
has the model 9101, like me, but built in 1989.  I used the 332-3457
number, but she was told by them to call the 800-432-5437 number.

I also called Toys-R-Us and they said that I could bring the car seats
back to them for full refund.  I can imagine the stampede at Toys R Us
right now, so I'll wait for my plastic part.

Sandy
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: jbrindle@halcyon.com (Jennifer Brindle)
Subject: Re: When did you feel "grown-up"  (was: Re: maternity lingerie)
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:18:59 GMT

In article <1aqikbINNk2u@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct3.005322.21451@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca> marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Marcy Thompson) writes:
>>>
>>Yep. Jury duty.
>
>Hmm - I was on jury duty a few weeks ago.  It was a drunk driving case,
>so the judge was asking prospective jurors if they drank.  One of the
>non-drinkers gave as reason that he is only 18 and can't drink legally.
>He was among those one or the other of the lawyers decided to excuse.
>-- 

Which reminds me of the one and only case where I was even considered
as a juror....they asked me how I felt about the "drunk driving" law;
the defense atty objected to the wording and by the time they got back
to the question, I was kinda tired of it all so I answered "I think anyone
who is stupid enough to drive drunk deserves everything the law can give
them."  Needless to say, I was excused.

Oh well, that would have been a nice diversion, at least.


Jennifer
From: dab@ism.isc.com (Dave Butterfield)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: East Bay Regional Parks/dog restrictions
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:23:42 GMT
Organization: x
NNTP-Posting-Host: change

minx@access.digex.com (minx) writes:
=I got visions of their lovely children twisting an ankle and my
=getting sued over it.  So I told them to stay out of my yard.  They
=refused.  I told their parents to keep them out of my yard.  I was ignored.
=I built a fence.  They climbed it.
=
=So, what would have happened if one of the little darlings broke its neck
=in my yard and I was sued? (even if I didn't help them break it :-)).

Irony would be if it broke its neck attempting to climb your fence.
"You shouldn't have built that fence -- it's an attractive nuisance."

-- 
	Truth is an evaluation of a statement within a context.
From: clg@cray.com (Coni Gehler)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Infant snowsuit questions
Keywords: snowsuit babybag
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:55:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: hemlock.1992Oct7.115544.2633

Well, it's October in Wisconsin, and that means we're already a little late in
buying a snowsuit for Sam.

I have questions for you experienced cold-weather parents regarding types of
snowsuits.

Sam is 6 months old.  We've looked at "traditional" snowsuits--all one piece,
with arms, legs, hood, and attached/detachable booties and mittens.  I've also
noticed that the latest L.L.Bean catalog has a "baby bag" snowsuit--all one 
piece, with non-detachable booties, no arms, and no hood (looks like it can just
come right on up around the baby's head, leaving his face uncovered).  It
does have legs--so it's not the "bag" type with no legs, but, rather, with no
arms.  I'm really interested in the baby bag one, since it seems it would be
fast and easy to get him in and out of it, and we have to take him out to the
sitter's four days a week.  Sam will have turned one year old by the time winter
is over up here.  Here are my questions:

1.  Does anyone have experience with the baby bag type of snowsuit?  Are they
    as easy to get a child into/out of as they look?  Are they warm enough?

2.  Do you think my child (I know, all children are different) will become
    frustrated by the inability to use his arms on the way to/from the
    sitter's?  (The drive is about 10 minutes, so he'd probably be in it
    about 15 minutes at each end of the day.  He'd also be in it for other
    car trips, but it will mainly be used for going to/from the sitter's.  Be-
    sides, for longer car trips we figure we can open it enough for him to
    get his arms out.  He doesn't sleep much in the car, and hardly ever does
    to/from the sitter's.)

3.  Should I buy it (the baby bag) large enough that he can use it next year?
    Or, is the lack of arms a bad idea for a 1.5-to-2-year-old?  Also, if I
    buy it so that it's very big on him this year, will that make it less
    effective in keeping him warm?

4.  On the flip side, are traditional snowsuits a problem to get on/off an
    infant?  Do they have advantages over the bag type?  Are they less effective
    at keeping a child warm when the snowsuit is very large on the child?

5.  Are there specific features (such as the detachable booties/mittens, or a
    detachable hood) I should be sure to look for in a snowsuit for a child
    this age?

Okay, so maybe I'm obsessing a bit about this, but I want my child to be warm,
happy, and comfortable--and these snowsuits aren't cheap!  So, I'll appreciate
any advice I can get.

Coni
From: lynn@elan.Elan.COM (Lynn Gazis)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Aggression in boys (Was: Re: BARBIE
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:38:07 GMT
Reply-To: lynn@elan (Lynn Gazis)
Organization: Elan Computer Group, Inc., Mountain View, CA

Yes, I am sure my memory is accurate.  More than two heavier
boys repeatedly hit me during recess, I hit and kicked back
with the full force that I was able to put behind my blows,
every single time that I was attacked, and at least some
of my attackers kept coming back for more.  (I did once managed
to deter an attack by picking up a rock, but that is the only
success I remember for fighting back.  The main thing it did
for me was that I felt better about myself, because I felt,
at that age, that I was brave enough to fight back against
people bigger than me, while my attackers were such cowards
that they had to pick on someone littler.)

Undoubtedly I did something to make them dislike me.  I had
skipped into their class after the school year started, I
was smarter than the rest and, with no friendships to preserve,
probably had no qualms about flaunting it if I did better than
someone, and I was determinedly eccentric, playing games
differently from the rest of the children.  What I didn't do
was attack anyone.  I was playing peacefully in a corner of
the playground when people sought me out and attacked me.

Perhaps there is more variety in patterns of bullying and
motives for it than you realize.

Lynn Gazis-Sax
From: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: corr. between overdue/c-sec.
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:47:24 GMT
Reply-To: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CDNSWC

In misc.kids, EMN002@email.mot.com (Mary Beth Northrup) writes:
  (deleted experience of c-section following post term pregnancy, monitoring
showing fetal distress)

>I'd be interested in learning from some discussion on the correlation between
>"overdue" pregnancies and complications. I've been watching this newsgroup for
>a few months and haven't seen this topic discussed.

This is anecdotal, so take it for what it is worth.  Both my pregnancies
went "overdue".  I was monitored via non-stress tests (NST), which showed
no problems with the babies.  I DID end up with two c-sections, but
for reasons of failure to progress. Both babies went through LONG labors  
fairly well. With my first, I was twelve days overdue, and in active 
labor for 30 hours before going for a c-section.  Brad had started to 
show a little distress after that long, but not severe.  The reason 
for the c-section was that it was obvious that I was not progressing.  
With my second, I was fourteen days overdue.  I was in labor for 24
hours, and pushed for two hours.  Carrie descended a long ways with
my first good push, and then didn't move again through two hours of
pushing.  (we had an internal monitor, which acted as a "dip stick".
My husband said Carrie descended about 3 inches! with my first push.)

Regardless of being overdue, and long labors, and c-sections, both babies
were very healthy.

On the other hand, a friend had an overdue baby (two weeks late).  Her
labor was induced, but went very smoothly with no complications.  Her
baby definitely looked overdue (shriveled skin, had apparently started
to lose weight due to placental deterioration), but was also healthy.

My conclusion?  I think it depends on the baby, and the mother.  In
some cases, the placenta does deteriorate, and needs to be born.  In
others, maybe the baby just takes a little longer than others.

Diane Segelhorst
dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Mom to Brad, 2.25 years, and Carrie, 4 months
From: chen@speed.uucp (Lilei Chen)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Meconium, cord, etc.
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:10:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Oct15.191053.6405
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

I am currently in the 39th week of my first pregnancy and have been
reading this newsgroup for a long time.  The recent postings of baby
passing meconium before birth and getting wrapped by the cord really
scare me.  My baby has been very active.  Is there any way I can be
sure before I go into labor that he is not wrapped around by his cord?
Since he is still squirming a lot and has a good heart rate, can I 
assume that he hasn't passed meconium?  If his neck is wrapped by the
cord, can he be hurt by contractions?  Is there any way to make sure
nothing bad has happened?

A worried mom-to-be
Lilei Chen 
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: susie2@moscow.uucp (25230s-ryan-erdek)
Subject: Re: Flu Shot while Pregnant???
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 17:28:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.135805.5135@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, jackie8@dasher.uucp (Jackie Brady) writes:
> 
> I was curious about this because I know it's the first
> question they ask when you get a flu shot (unless you're
> a male :-)).  I just called MedeMerge (an UrgentCare type
> of place where they have doctors and you can go anytime
> all day, every day with no appointment), and the nurse
> told me that no doctor should administer a flu shot to
> any pregnant woman because it's a live vaccine that they're
> putting into your body.
> 

This pretty much squares with what info I can remember
being given during my one pregnancy (this is the one
*GREAT* thing about no longer being pregnant - when you
don't have to agonize over such decisions as to how to
treat conditions you might be concerned with for yourself
because of the obvious questions regarding effects on
baby-to-be).

> There you have it. An bonafide official medical opinion
> from New Jersey. Aren't you excited.  :-)

As to that "bonafide official medical opinion from New
Jersey" - well, IMHO, how anyone can be excited about
*ANYTHING* coming from New Jersey . . . . is beyond
me ;)

(Sorry - couldn't resist an anti-Jersey jab . . .)

Mary Ann
From: rich@oieng.mke.ab.com (Richard B. Ralston)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Death - Choked on a Peanut
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:38:49 GMT
Reply-To: <rich@oieng.mke.ab.com> (Rich Ralston)
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co., Milwaukee, WI


>> And I would like to remind everyone that CPR training (which includes choking)
>> can help one handle the situation when the occasional accident does happen.

Here! Here!

Since my son, Kendall, came home on a apnea monitor we had to take infant
CPR.  I strongly recommend taking it. (Though given the circumstances, it
was pretty hard on us emotionally.  Not fun thinking about the possible
death of your child and trying to prevent it!)

When Kendall's twin, Nathanial, died it was (to say the least!) a very
difficult time for us.  If you're good friends, and willing to do it, let
your friend know that you're willing to hear Him talk about his daughter.
Long after others have "forgotten" she'll be very, very "real" to him.  I
really cherish the friends who are still willing to talk about him and hear
me talk about him.  If he's anything like me, it'll be a good two years
before he's really adjusted to the death of his daughter (you never, ever,
ever "get over it.")  Probably longer given the circumstances and probable
guilt they'll feel. (Whether or not there was any fault on there part!)

If your friend would like to talk to someone who's "been there." Email me
and I'll send you my work and home phone numbers.

Lastly, the best book I've read on this is "Loosing a Child" by Elaine
Stokey, and the second best was "A Grief Observed" by C.S. Lewis.  Both have
a chrstian theme to them, but eloquently said what I was feeling.  Both my
copies are pretty worn now.

It goes without say, my most heartfelt sympathes go to your friend and his
family. 

Rich

--
Richard B. Ralston, Allen - Bradley
rich@oieng.mke.ab.com
Well, it's ok to murder babies/but we really ought to save the whales!
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From: padgett@inyo.caltech.edu (Deborah Padgett)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,rec.scuba,rec.travel
Subject: Leaving 8 month old baby for business trip
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:15:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: dime.54843
Followup-To: padgett@inyo.phast.umass.edu
Organization: Astronomy Department, University of Massachusetts at Amherst



My husband and I have to go to the Big Island of Hawaii for an astronomical
observing trip in December. Since the observatory on Mauna Kea is at
14,000 feet, we will be unable to take our (then) 8-month old daughter.
We have planned to leave her with Grandma in Alabama for about a week;
however, although Grandma is a great caretaker, she and Anna live 1200
miles apart, so Grandma is not someone that Anna knows well. I'm getting
cold feet about leaving my child in the midst of the "separation anxiety
phase", but I'd still like to go on this trip. I am appealing to the
net for experience/wisdom/etc. Please respond to padgett@inyo.phast.umass.edu
as my netserver directs mail to the wrong computer...


Debbie