From: raver909@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Rave Crusader)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: The Newest Emu synth... McAnalog!!!???!!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:47:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: telerama.1993Jan25.064737.22003
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My name is Brian Rost (rost@tecrus.dec.com) wrote:

: In article <1993Jan21.114721.1@acad.drake.edu>, seh003@acad.drake.edu writes...
: >Any manufacturers out there listening?  This guy has a great idea that I've
: >often wished for myself.  Up-to-date analogs with proper MIDI and MULTI-TIMBRAL
: >capability.  A multi-timbral analog synth would be a godsend.  Anyone else
: >agree?

: Sure, it's here today, the Matrix 12...
At $6,000....hmph!
: How much are you willing to pay for 32 analog voices?  $5000?  $10,000?
: Obies cost a lot because they are expensive to make and sell in small
: quantities because they are expensive.
What kinda logic is this, Obies are expensive because they are expensive?
I can understand if it is labor intensive to make but there is no way you
can tell me that a Matrix 12 = 6,000 dollars in parts. Not unless its gold.
Perhaps if they lowered the price the amount of Matrix 12's sold should
offset the loss. I personally think they should lower the price down to
something the average musician could afford, I know MANY people who would
jump at a Matrix 12 for 1100 dollars.
: E-Mu knows all about analog synthesis, they used to make modulars!  To try to
: replicate as much analog hardware as they stuffed into the Vintage Keys would
: be impossible.  Wise up, noone is going to ressurect analog synths unless
: someone can come through with a breakthrough in getting the cost down.  If the
: market was really there for analog, *someone* would be in there fighting it
: out.  
The only breakthrough that needs to be made is one in thinking. The
company needs to realize there is a LARGE market for analog technology in
an updated form. Also they need to get beyond trying to bleed that
percieved small market dry.

: Do you think manufacturers went digtial because they thought people loved
: analog synths?  The companies that stayed with analog (Oberheim, Chroma, Moog,
: Sequential) went under and companies like Korg and Roland put up with Casio and
: Ensoniq making them look like jerks until they came out with the M1 and D50 to
: replace their analog flagships.
They went digital because it sounded more "realistic". Not because analog
was bad or unwanted.Digital was the new buzzword. Same as going from LPs tto
CDs or from synthesis to sample playback.
Sales of the Waldorf Microwave should show a well priced analog unit can
become a hot item. (It is among techno/rave, hip-hop, industrial, and
aggro artists the best thing since sliced bread and MIDI) The market is there.
: The last (only?) attempt at a cheap analog multi-timbral system was the
: Sequential Trak series, which used a custom IC that contained the guts of one
: analog voice on it.  But it was cheap, the bottom-of-the line MAX listed at
: $600 in 1985.  But I doubt a six voice synth that could act like six monosynths
: is what you had in mind.  And the MAX was no Oberheim, single oscialltor per
: voice, limited modulation capabilities, etc.  

: BTW, Peavey also has a "sampled analog" module on the way.  This one is
: intended to compete against the Obie Matrix 1000, with a list of about $400.
Great, more sample playback garbage. Just what we need. WE WANT ANALOG
REAL ANALOG!  					

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