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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: myths or movies? (evi
Date: 23 Jul 92 09:56:02 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

JF>        I've been looking forward to hearing about Evil Dead 3.  There was
JF>a lot of noise about it a year ago, but nothing since then.

     "Army Of Darkness," the third "Evil Dead" movie, has indeed been
     made.  Unfortunately, there are distribution problems.  Dino De
     Laurentiis (yes, he's still around), the producer of the movie,
     is caught up in another legal battle with Universal Pictures,
     who are supposed to distribute the movie.  He claims that
     Universal commited a breach of contract in some way or another,
     and until the legal niceties are settled then "Army Of Darkness"
     won't be seeing the light of day.  :(

JF>        Also, I read somewhere about a possible X-MEN movie!!!  It's

     There have been rumours of an "X-Men" movie floating around - with
     most of those rumours created by Marvel comics - for more than
     ten years now.  The latest story says that it will be directed
     by James Cameron, of "Terminator" and "Aliens" fame.  Please note:
     THIS IS NOT TRUE!!!

     James Cameron has said that he would be interested in doing a comic
     book movie, and reportedly he MIGHT (repeat: MIGHT!) be doing
     a "Spider-Man" movie in the near future.  But there is no word of
     him doing an X-Men movie.

     And for that matter, DO NOT BELIEVE the hype that Marvel Comics is
     tossing around about the Spider-Man movie.   This movie is NOT
     in production yet, and perhaps it never will be.
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From: seiffe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Erica Seiffert)
Subject: Re: Movie Musicals
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:45:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.185142.19281@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> wkm1@nestor.uucp (24102-messer) writes:
>
>Other great movie musicals, IMHO:
>
>Kiss Me Kate:  Cole Porter is great, as always, and it's fun to
>watch a very young Bob Fosse show off his style.
>
>A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum:  Ok, so it's
>a bit dated, but there are some GREAT songs and silly situations,
>i.e. "Everybody Ought to Have a Maid."
>
>Seven Brides for Seven Brothers:  Songs you find yourself humming
>along with, and the scenery ain't bad, either..
>
>WKM
>

	Have to agree with the above. Kiss Me Kate..that was really a fun
one. 
	"Brush up your Shakespeare..."

ems
*****
I don't speak for my employers and we both like it that way.
From: malhotra@duke.cs.duke.edu (Manish Malhotra)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: American cinema (was Re: RASPUTIN)
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:38:22 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <2552@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
>john@spss.com (John Przyborowski) writes...
>
>other nation's, and that is true. But I do see a lot of foreign films
>too (about 1 subtitled film per 2 English language film) and I must say
>the America "crud ratio" is higher by far than any other country. Note
>that that was ratio, and has nothing to do with volume.
>

 No way ! India has the highest "crud ratio" and also the volume.  
 Too few good films and too many bad films. 

 
 Manish 



  

 
   
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From: dcpiii@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (pawlak dan)
Subject: Re: Feminist Perspective of Batman Returns
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:53:52 GMT
Keywords: Batman, feminist, confusion, symoblic


Bill's comments above sum up my feelings exactly.
...and now for a chauvanistic response:
"Babe, you completely missed the point."

thanks, "what do ya think, sirs??"

Dan Pawlak, send all hate mail to dcpiii@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: fritz@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Katie Fritz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jim Cameron and Escape from New York
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:44:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <n2gmhzq@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>jvs@lester.appstate.edu (John V. Scalco) writes:
>> I have seen "Point Break" and I noticed that James Cameron or perhaps
>> Jim , is credited with executive producer.  same Cameron? 
>Same Cameron.  I'm pretty sure he and Kathryn Bigelow -- who directed
>"Point Break", "Near Dark, et al. -- are married now.  (He used to be
>married to Gale Ann Hurd.) 

I thought Cameron & Bigelow had separated, or even divorced? Cameron
has been dating Linda Hamilton since making T2.


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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove - last line ???
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:41:57 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Jul21.040144.55906@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, by dfk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (David F. Keppel):
>  For the ending I got the dialog, but I cant figure out exactly what
>  the Soviet Ambassador is operating when he goes off to the side. Is
>  this some kind of transmitter or a detonator?

No, he's taking photographs!  With the camera hidden in the thing
Turgidson tried to take away from him earlier.  I think it was his
watch.  "We'll meet again..."
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From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Aliens 3 was GREAT!
Date: 27 Jul 1992 21:01:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA/JSC

...FOR A DOLLAR AT THE LOW CLASS CINEMA.

Some day I will learn to trust the opinions of usenet.
From: hist1261@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Hitchcock comedy
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:29:06 GMT
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <28160@goofy.Apple.COM>, acw@Apple.COM (Art Willis) writes:
> In article <1992Jul8.130448.10909@engage.pko.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place) writes:
>>In article <Br1Foy.Mn1@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ziauddin@osiris (Tasneem Ziauddin) writes...
>>} I seem to remember that some time in his career Alfred Hitchcock directed 
>>} a romantic comedy. I think it was released early in his career, possibly
>>} after "Rebecca."  Does anyone know the title of this film?
>>
>>As others have already mentioned, you're most likely thinking of MR. AND
>>MRS. SMITH, as that's the only one that came after REBECCA. I wanted to
>>point out, though, that Hitchcock did a number of romantic comedies
>>earlier in his career, though in some cases (such as THE 39 STEPS, YOUNG
>>AND INNOCENT, and THE LADY VANISHES) they are more or less half thrillers
>>and half romantic comedies.
>>
>>--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)
>>
>>    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
> 
> Hitchcock also made at least one romantic comedy later in his career, 
> "The Trouble With Harry" (1955).  This has always been one of my favorite
> Hitchcock films.  Does anybody rememeber if this was Shirley MacLaine's
> movie debut?
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Art Willis
> acw@apple.com

Yes it was.
What about "North by Northwest", "To Catch a Thief" and "Family Plot", which
all contain elements of comedy and romance.  In fact, "North by Northwest" is
really a self-conscious up-dating/extension of "The 39 Steps" and "The Lady
Vanishes".  It is certainly a lot funnier than "The Trouble With Harry", which
I see rather more as a black comedy, although one whose blackness pales to
insignificance next to Hitch's ultimate "comedy", "Psycho".

Richard.
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From: sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor))
Subject: Re: Sleeper...
Keywords: woody films
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:59:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.150553.15766@siesoft.co.uk> jez@siesoft.co.uk (Jeremy Tracey) writes:


> Can anybody tell me the name of Woody Allens' character in 'The Sleeper'?

> ....infact does anybody have a list of his characters names from any
> of his other films....

> jez.

	Sleeper:	Miles Monroe
	Love and Death: Boris Demetrivich (sp?)
	Annie Hall:	Alvie Singer
	Bananas:	Fielding Melish
	Manhattan:	Isaac....
	Zelig:		Leonard Zelig
	Broadway Danny Rose
	
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From: jartz@bassoon.mitre.org (John Artz)
Subject: Did we see the same movie ?
Reply-To: jartz@mitre.org
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:14:40 GMT


I posted a synopsis of Unlawful Entry a few days ago, to which
a couple of other posters responded by asking if we had indeed
viewed the same movie.  The main issue was whether the  psycho
cop was interested in protecting the wife or terrorizing her.

If the role was that ambiguous, then maybe the movie was better
than I thought.  This also gives some credence to the discussions
of deconstruction and hermeneutics (sp?) that have been salted
through r.a.b. in the past month or so.

With only a little tongue in cheek I would like to ask if it is indeed
possible for two people to see the same movie, or if it is possible
to see the same movie twice.





						John M. Artz, Ph.D.

						jartz@mitre.org

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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Mr Vampire original title please
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:46:21 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


I'm not the original poster, but it's "Stop Breathing Temporarily".  

By the way, thanks for your post about the Mr. Vampire movies - I tried to 
thank you by e-mail but my message bounced back.

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From: rpeeler@uhccvx (Russ Peeler)
Subject: Anyone heard of "The Mistress"?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:29:00 GMT

I was watching "Night After Night" on the comedy channel and Allen Havey (sp?)
was interviewing Robert Wuhl.   I think the show was a repeat from around 
the time of the LA riots (lots of references to the "recent" verdict).  
Anyway, Wuhl mentioned that he had recently finished a movie called "The 
Mistress" with Robert DeNiro, Danny Aiello, and Eli Wallach.  It sounded 
really good.  My question is has this film been released.  I'm living in 
Hilo, HI and movies have a nasty habit of avoiding the theatres around 
here.  So, has it been released, will it be released soon?


Thanks

Russ
From: csculha@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Candace S. Culhane)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Feminist Perspective of Batman Returns
Keywords: Batman, feminist, women
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:01:34 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1992Jul27.142330.7450@midway.uchicago.edu> rm34@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul26.205644.27563@afterlife.ncsc.mil> csculha@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Candace S. Culhane) writes:
>>have been men.  Where are the 'feminists' who are giving us their
>>perspective, may I ask?
>
>We are all over the thread.  A good number of us just happen to be men.
>
>>movie that much, and b) I don't consider myself a 'feminist', whatever
>>that title actually describes these days.]  
>
>'Feminist' means the same thing it always has-- a person who believes that an
>adult woman is a full-fledged human being, with the same potential, entitled to
>the same rights, and bearing the same responsibilities as any other adult 
>human being (ie, man).  This reluctance of people to refer to themselves as 
>feminists is an unfortunate effect of a very effective campaign on the part of
>ANTI-feminists to stereotype feminists as man-hating, castrating bitches. 
>Anyone who believes that a woman is a complete person is a feminist, and should
>call his- or herself one.  I'm a feminist.  I'm also a man AND a hunka hunka
>burning love.  It makes life interesting ;-) .

Okay.  Good definition.  I like your definition.  In that case, I can say
I'm a feminist (and you're right about that effective campaign, because
it feels strange for me to say I'm one.  But reflecting on that could start
another thread which doesn't belong here in rec.arts.movies!)

I'd still like to see some comments from other women about Cat Woman and
other themes in BATMAN RETURNS.  I know, you can lead a person to read news,
but you can't make them post!  ;)

- Candy
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Dedicated to stamping out useless waste of bandwidth.
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Re: Howard's End
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:34:57 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <2045@diasonx.UUCP> quang@diasonx.UUCP (Quang Ton) writes:
>I've seen Howard's End but didnot like the movie at all despite raving reviews.
>Does anyone out there feel the same way or is it just me being a lame brain ?

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From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Subject: Re: t2 in b&w?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 04:43:20 GMT
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd.: The Danes Call It Quality
Distribution: rec


eric.walker@channel1.com (eric walker) writes:

eric>      It never occured to me before, but it seems as though James
eric> Cameron deliberately filmed T2 so that much of the movie looks
eric> as though it was filmed in black and white.  He uses a blue light
eric> in all the night scenes of this movie, and this casts a cold,
eric> metallic, "emotionless" light on everything.  It's an interesting
eric> effect, as it adds to the "feel" of T2 - but I wonder if this was
eric> done as a way of getting movie audiences to watch a black-and-white
eric> movie without even realizing it.

[ descriptions omitted:  red glare of ALIENS' Marines' last stand;
 constant background glow of the ocean in THE ABYSS ]
  
Your observations are very interesting, but I think the key here is
your comment that the lighting "adds to the 'feel'" of the movie.

Cameron strives to fill his films with intensity -- intensity in his
characters, his action, and of course his visuals.  I think he uses
strong doses of color to evoke emotion and tension, enhancing the
intensity of the scene.  One can say it's a gimmick, but he does it
quite effectively.  The overwhelming red hue during the Marines' last
stand delivers various feelings at once:  fear, anger, claustrophobia.
In THE ABYSS the light blue hue is more abstract -- perhaps isolation,
alienation, doom?  A numbing sense of comfort from the surrounding,
engulfing ocean?  In either case, the viewer definitely feels a sense
of tension from the flood of primary color.  Perhaps Cameron is, in a
sense, putting a "lens" on what we see & how we see it?

I think that what Cameron's use of color has in common with black-and-
white is that they both seem to grab more attention from the viewer
than the distractions of a multi-color image.  What makes it different
is that Cameron is distinctly trying to heighten our emotional gut
reactions and sense of tension and stress.


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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: Jim Cameron and Escape from New York
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:10:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.001128.13062@lester.appstate.edu> jvs@lester.appstate.edu (John V. Scalco) writes:
>bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>: > New York last night (UK TV, BBC2), he mentioned the credits listed a
>: > Jim Cameron under Directors of Photography...
>: 
>: Yep, that was *the* JC.  He was a special effects dude with Roger Corman
>: before he was a big time director...
>: 
> - heres a new one - I have seen "Point Break" and I noticed that James
>   Cameron or perhaps Jim , is credited with executive producer
>
>	same Cameron?
>

Yes, he's married to the movie's director, Katheryn Bigelow.
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Director Degrees (was RE: George Miller)
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:30:04 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Jul24.213216.18111@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>
CCMK@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (Mark Kosten) writes:

> Doesn't Michael Crichton also have an M.D.?  Also, is there not one
> director who has a Ph.D (which would be superior still to an M.D.)?

Yes, Crichton does have an M.D. from Harvard.  He first switched to writing
novels, then added scriptwriting and directing.  He adapted his book 
_Jurassic Park_ into a screenplay for Spielberg's upcoming movie.

But please explain why a Ph.D is superior to an M.D.  Persoanlly I have
neither, but don't see the possibility for comparison.  I think an M.D. is
a little harder to achieve (and a whole lot more expensive), but that doesn't
mean it is "superior".

Greg Bole                               "When you wake up, wipe the slugs off
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             your face.  Be ready for a new day!"
                                        Keanu Reeves in _My Own Private Idaho_
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:29:56 -0400 
From: Louis Blair <lb2e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Philly in the movies
	<jon.712511301@lindy.Stanford.EDU>

Jon Corelis writes:
>The legend that W. C. Field's epitaph reads "I'd rather be in
>Philadelphia," or, by some accounts, "I'd rather be here than in
>Philadelphia," is not true.
>
>Source:  myself.  I've been to his grave.

I once saw a special about Fields that explained how this
legend got started.  Somebody went around asking famous
people what they would like to have their gravestone
say.  Fields came up with the Philadelphia joke that was
so much better than any of the other ideas that it became
famous, and some people, not knowing exactly how the
quote originated, assumed that it really was on Fields'
gravestone.
From: kruger@plains.NoDak.edu (Donovan Kruger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Patriot Games/Alien/Nicholas Nickleby
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:44:35 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Ed Computing Network

In article <1992Jul30.031234.23480@socrates.umd.edu> caruso@socrates.umd.edu (John Caruso) writes:
>     I finally got out to see Patriot Games, and during one of the tense
>moments late in the film I was very surprised to hear the theme music
>from Alien.  It was immediately familiar, but I couldn't place it...then
>I remembered that it was the music that accompanied the exterior shots
>of the Nostromo.  It was well-suited to that scene in Patriot Games, but
>a bit jarring considering the antecedent!
[...]
>- John

I'm surprised the music made you think of Alien rather than Aliens.
After all, James Horner did the scoring for Patriot Games as well as
Aliens, Star Trek II, Battle Beyond the Stars, Krull, as well as several
other Sci-Fi/Space movies.  Lately, it seems that Horner is doing more
mainstream scores in Dramas and such (Field of Dreams, Commando, and
Unlawful Entry).  I hope everyone enjoys Horner's work as much as I do.

Donovan
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From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: Tetsuo: The Iron Man
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 07:50:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.191401.3377@wam.umd.edu> yep@wam.umd.edu
(--!!HEY!!--) writes:
>The DC area is hosting a limited one week engagement of a Japanese/
>animated/live/black&white movie called, "Tetsuo: The Iron Man"
>
>from what i've heard it's a very violent and oddball of a film.
>
>anyone heard of it?
>worth seeing?

I've seen it.  It could have been better.  But it is definitely worth
seeing.  It's not for everyone, but what is?

Nutshell description: If Mike Jittlov wasn't such a nice harmless guy
he might've made Tetsuo...

Also, there's a sequel (TETSUO 2: THE BODY HAMMER).

Ed Price              (not Tim Worsely) `Long live the new flesh!'
eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@...) 
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From: hackes@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Brakweh)
Subject: Re: Greta Scacchi (sp?) - Any fans out there?
Organization: Uni Paderborn FB 17 Informatik GERMANY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:04:55 GMT

garrem@vccsouth16.its.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson) writes:
: She was also very good in THE PLAYER.      
: -- 

Yeah, she was good in any movie she acted.

Greetings from Germany
Markus
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From: matth@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Matthew Holle)
Subject: Re: The Rapture ** SPOILER ** (but you won't want to see this movie)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:07:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.172626.24452@bmerh85.bnr.ca> eiscoop3@bmerh52.UUCP (Robert McAulay) writes:

>What the hell was this?  Some gratuitous sex at the start to attract the 
>viewers and then some disconnected, badly acted and horribly frustrating
>scenes to finish.  I remember that the idea interested me at first, the 
>imminent return of God and the fact that only a select group of people knew
>about it, but then it deteriorated into... I don't know what.  
>
>Any comments out there?  Did anyone like this movie?  Did anyone get a coherent
>message out of it?  I'd like to know what Ebert saw in it.
>
>Mike.

Yes, I liked this movie.  Part of the message I got from it was that
survival at either end of the spectrum (God-free or hard core fundimentalist)
doesn't work.  Another point was the similarities between these two ends:
easy to get swept in, but difficult to actually live with it.

Just my opinions...

Matt Holle
(matth@oakhill.sps.mot.com)
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