From: jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip Switzer)
Subject: Re: Buchanan's speech at convention
Keywords: Buchanan Rush Limbaugh
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Distribution: world,usa,na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:40:16 GMT

mcgead@operators.its.rpi.edu (Darren McGeary) writes:

>Here is the beginning of Mr. Buchanan's oft-stated belief that only
>morals that are derived from Judeo-Christian religions are worth anything.
>Also his belief that the USA is a 'christian nation'.  Both beliefs are
>wrong.

Gee, there is quite a bit of evidence to the contrary.  Take a look at 
some of your pocket change for instance.


>>Irish-Catholic governor of Pennsylvania, Robert Casey, asked to say a
>>few words, on behalf of the 25 million unborn children destroyed since
>                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>                                        no such thing

Care to debate whether or not a baby one hour before birth is a "child"?


>Everytime I hear Buchanan speak, I constantly wonder to myself what
>evil things homosexuals have done to him that he hates them so much.
>Or could it be a case of 'Me thinks thou doth protest too much'?

Good one!

>How can the government give tax incentives for people to send their kids
>to a religious school without it being a violation of church and state
>separation.  Yet another example of churches only wanting to be separate
>until it costs them money.

It is more a rebate than a tax incentive.  We would simply be getting
the money back that we had paid for our children to go to a public
school.  From a completely pragmatic point of view, this is the only 
thing that is going to save education in this country. Aside from the
NEA's liberal agenda for my kids, just like most other unions, they have
brought the system they work for to the brink of collapse.  Add to that
the beaurocracy that is inherent in public schools and the only
alternative is to start over using the private sector--the only sector 
that really works in this country.

> 
>This is a joke.  How can ANYONE seriously compare going to war in WWII
>and being DRAFTED into the Vietnam war.  And why didn't Buchanan bring
>up a certain VP who through his daddy's connections avoided Vietnam by
>joining the National Guard?

He didn't have to.  NBC news did it for him--during the speech. 

>1)There already is freedom-of-choice for religious schools

Just like the argument we hear all the time supporting abortion, there
isn't any freedom of choice if you can't afford it.  It is only an option
if you are above average income.

>2)There's the gay thing again? He's starting to make me wonder if he's
>  hiding something.

Again, cutting rhetoric.  Did you take a debate class?

>  
>There already is voluntary prayer in schools.  No one is trying to
>stop it.  Oh!!! He probably meant SCHOOL-SANCTIONED voluntary prayer. :)

I have to agree with you on this one...  Nobody is stopping anyone from
praying at school.  I guess it's the principle of the thing.  If they
took out the Pledge of Alegence (have they done that yet?) they could 
tell you that you could pledge your alegence silently any time you want
without the school sanctioning it.  We wouldn't want to offend anyone 
who might hate our country...


Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
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