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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:46:21 EDT
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: U2 at Legion Field .........
 <1992Oct9.180403.12785@b11.b11.ingr.com>
 <1992Oct10.163047.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>

Let's not forget the allegations that Bono plagiarized the entire
lyrics for the Joshua Tree from Barry Manilow's Greatest Hits . .



Jim
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Date: 13 Oct 92 01:03:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

Meeks drooled:

}                            And, looking at who they both have left, Miami
}  still has 3 more ranked opponents to play (Boston College #20, WVirginia#24,
}  and #14 Syracuse) ...

I have found myself in this situation a number of times before, correcting
a supposed fan of the Blowhards about facts even a casual follower of
the team should know.  To wit: Miami doesn't play Boston College this
season.

toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma) wrote:
}
}Miami and Wash play a common opponent, Arizona. If Arizona goes up to
}Washington, and doesn't do as well as they did against Miami, then you
}have your answer. Wash #1. 

Hmm ... were you preaching this last year when Washington struggled against
Nebraska before pulling out a 36-21 win while Miami destroyed them 22-0?
Of course Miami also failed to blow out Arizona last season as badly 
as Washington did (36-9 vs. 54-0), which is perhaps the most utterly
meaningless comparison between the 2 teams I can possibly imagine.

In 1990 Georgia Tech and Colorado had one common opponent - Nebraska - and
the Jackets blasted them 45-21 while Colorado trailed the Huskers for
3 quarters before pulling out a 27-12 win.  Did this prove that Georgia
Tech was the better team?  Well I'm a Ramblin' Wreck fanatic, and I
wouldn't dream of making such a preposterous claim.

MNC contenders play 12 games in a season, and they should be judged by
their performances in all of those games.  To simply throw out the 11
(or even 12) other contests in favor of a single common opponent is
a ridiculous oversimplification.  Teams do play up and down, you know,
and it's just possible for one team to have a bad day while the other
has a good day.

Last season Washington won 14-3 at Southern Cal, while Memphis State
beat the Trojans 24-10.  Was Memphis State therefore better than
Washington last season?

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
       "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing 
         swords is no basis for a system of government!"
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From: gcm@fns-nc1.fns.com (Grover McCoury)
Subject: Re: Lies, D**n Lies, etc (Re: PSU is Overrated!)
Keywords: Linebacker U. 
Organization: Fujitsu Network Switching
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 17:42:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.142449.12238@fns-nc1.fns.com> gcm@fns-nc1.fns.com (Grover McCoury) writes:
>In article <92288.072824KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> <KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>And you pennheads out there,
>>don't begin to talk about 1986, PSU's BYU National Championship, one game
>>season in which if Vinny Testerverde wasn't color blind, would have went the
>>other way (five interceptions come to mind?).
>
>I suppose a *great* defense had nothing to do with the interceptions... 
>
>P.S. - The game ending interception was by a guy named Shane Conlon. BTW,
>       didn't he get a job after school in the NFL?   ;-)

After reviewing my tape of the '86 Fiesta Bowl I correct the above
statement as follows:

Although Shane made some INT's in the aformentioned game, it was Pete 
Giftopoulos(sp?) who made the game-ending INT. Thanks to Kevin Rodgers for
pointing out this error - I stand corrected. 

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From: bkowal@sol.usc.edu (Brian A. Kowal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Biggest Rivalry in the Country?
Date: 8 Oct 1992 13:37:46 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California (USC) Computing Services
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I presented some misinformation in a previous post.  I wish to thank
Patrick E Fleming for correcting me on the USC vs ND rivalry.
 
I wrote:
 
>  The entire rivalry started back in the 20s or 30s (someone
>else may have the date) when the President of USC and the President of
>Notre Dame agreed to have the two teams play... They were both on a
>train trip with their wives.  It seemed that the wife of the President
>of Notre Dame liked Southern California weather, and the wife of the USC
>president want to take her shopping...
 
Pat corrected:
 
First, the series began in 1926 and has been played every year except once or 
twice during WWII.  Second, the president of Notre dame does not have a wife.  
No president of Notre Dame ever has.  Ever since the University of Notre dame 
was founded in 1848, the president has been a priest.  However, there is a 
story that it was Knute Rockne's wife who decided that Notre Dame should play a
game on the west coast.  Rockne (Knute, that is) initally indended for the game
to be agianst California but could not work out the details.  So he called in a
favor from long time friend caoch Harper at USC and one of the greatest 
intersectional rivalries in college football was born.
 
 
Fight On!
Brian A. Kowal
From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: TEXAS 34 ou 24
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:17:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Oct12.161736.8435
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

Olka-who?  Gundy-who?

Isn't ou lucky that Gardere is graduating.

Woof
Woof

Now, hopefully _somebody_ will take the Longhorns seriously.

One more thing, someone said I'm not a real Longhorn because I feel that
the a@m game is just as important as the ou game.

Well, when you live in a small agricultural town you hear aggie alumni
drivel all day long and needless to say I get really tired of it.
Teasip this and teasip that, tu sucks and steers and queers.  It gets
really old.  So that's why I feel beating a@m is just as important as
beating ou.
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From: tremblay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Marc Tremblay)
Subject: Re: Pac Ten Review (10-10-92)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:54:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.173913.29038@u.washington.edu> crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>Sorry it's late and I don't have stats for 2/5 games.  Arggh!

>
>Stanford @ UCLA  (game of the week #2)
>
>
>Another evening game for which I don't have stats.  Marc, would you be so
>kind as to post a summary if you have the information?  I did get to 
>watch this game on Prime Sports Northwest, and was impressed with the
>Cardinal defense yet again.  It seems that Bill Walsh has really got
>it going for the Cardinal.

No problem. Stanford showed up a the Rose Bowl to play an Injury
riddled Bruin squad in what turned out to be a defensive struggle.
Stanford marched down the field on its first possession, looking very
impressive, but had to settle for a field goal from freshman Eric
Abrams. Unfortunately for the Cardinal, this turned out to be one of
their only good drives of the game, which turned out to be a punting
fest, with the Cardinal edging the Bruins 10-9 in punts. The Bruins
defense was impressive in stopping the Cardinal passing game. The
highlight of the game was a 75 yd punt return by Glyn Milburn for a
touchdown. The Bruins then marched down the field to make it 10-7.
Later, Mike Cook scored on a pass from Steve Stenstrom to make it 17-7
Cardinal. The Stanford defense was very impressive in stopping the
run, holding the Bruins to 36 yds, but the secondary was often picked
apart by the Bruins rookie QB (forget his name) who ended up with >200
yds passing.  Unfortunately, (fortunately, if you like red and
white...) many of the Bruin drives were hampered by the massive
Cardinal pass rush, which sacked the Bruin QB 6 times. Ron George
earned PAC-10 defensive honors for the week, collecting 3 sacks and
causing a safety, which made the final score 19-7 in the Cardinal's
favor. Sean Lachapelle tried to play, despite cracked ribs, but left
the game early without a catch, not wanting to worsen the injury.

William Tell		Stan 28	UCLA 13
Marc Tremblay		Stan 27	UCLA 10
Robert Willers		UCLA 24	Stan 14
Brian Hiegel		Stan 17	UCLA 14  <--- closest
Gidi Avrahami		Stan 27	UCLA 21
Greg Garbe		UCLA 21 Stan 14
Eric Jaderlund		Stan 17	UCLA 14  <--- closest
Eric Arendts		Stan 21	UCLA 17
Mark Choi		Stan 27	UCLA 17
Yong-Qin Lu		Stan 17	UCLA 14  <--- closest
Cliff Slaughterbeck	Stan 20	UCLA 17
Vegas Line		Stan by 3



========================================================
| Marc Tremblay                  |  Stanford Cardinal  |
| tremblay@sunrise.stanford.edu  |  1993 Rose Bowl     |
========================================================
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From: "Sid Kitchel" <kitchel@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Buckeye injury report?
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:48:23 -0500

khotel@bnr.ca (Kraig Hotelling P055) writes:
>     Does anyone have the latest injury report for Smith, Harris, Kline,
>et al.?  Hopefully, Cooper will get hit by a stray meteorite and will 
>have to miss the next six games.

	Is this some sort of vailed threat????? Or are you uninformed?
Just in case: "meteorites" are found in museums. You are probably
hoping that dear Mr. Cooper will be struck by a meteoroid.

					soONEr bred!!!,
					 (I knew these TOSU folks
					  should have gone to
					  college instead. Where's
					  astronomer T-Bone when
					  we really need him????)
						   --Sid
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From: jac1@ra.msstate.edu (Jennifer Cox)
Subject: Re: News on MSU/AU Game!!
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:58:19 GMT

kmartin@dogwood.cray.com (Kenneth B. Martin) writes:


>What is the latest news, if any, on the Auburn/Mississippi State game?
>I live in Atlanta, and don't get information on AU games generally.
>If you know of anything of interest, please post!!

They announced today that it would be on pay-per-view.
It should be an excellent game.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:56:43 GMT

>In article <71007@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>
>>Hmm ... were you preaching this last year when Washington struggled against
>>Nebraska before pulling out a 36-21 win while Miami destroyed them 22-0?
>
>For all those who seem to think Miami blew out Nebraska in the Orange Bowl
>last year: I distinctly remember the score being 15-7 with under 3 min. to
>go in the fourth. Miami scored a late td to put the game away 22-7.
>Hardly a blow out. Nebraska was within one td plus 2 pt. conv. until the last
>two minutes! It sure seems like the Canes "struggled against Nebraska before
>pulling out" a 15 pt. victory. The same margin as Washington ...
>The Rose Bowl wasn't nearly as close, and Michigan was ranked higher 
>than Nebraska. So please explain: how do you justify a shared #1?
>Seemed like a no-brainer to have put Miami #2. Those crazy writers...
>
>- gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU 

Again, I would like to point out that this post was not generated by one of 
our freshmen.

GT

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: COWAN@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (Paul L. Cowan)
Subject: Lies, D**n Lies, etc (Re: PSU is Overrated!)
Organization: CALIFORNIANS ON THE ORIENT EXPRESS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:53:22 GMT
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In <92287.074450KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
:  
:    Penn State is one of the top programs in the country who consistently win
:  over top 10 teams, right!!!!  WRONG!!!  A.P. reports that in the "Joe Paterno
:  Era", PSU is 10-41 against teams that ended the season in the Top 10.  Now

Just for curiosity sake, did the AP compare this with any other team over the
25 years that JoePA has coached? What is, say, Miami's record since 1967? 
In '68 and '69 Penn State's principal rivals for No.1 were Ohio State, USC and
Texas. In the '70's and early '80's they were 'Bama, Oklahoma, and Nebraska, 
lately it's been Miami, FSU and Washington. The point is there have been alot
of teams that have been near the top for several years running, but only 
Michigan and Notre Dame have remained consistantly near the top as often 
over the last 1/4 century as JoePa's teams. (Sorry, I have no statistics on
this, just memories).

JoePa has always developed his teams in 4 or 5 year cycles. He has a young 
team that loses to the top teams for a couple of years, then they mature
and when they get some breaks they win the big games (except against Maryland,
where they always win 8^). I have seen some teams able to avoid such cycles
Texas in the early 70's, Barry Switzer's Okla teams. Now Miami is in that
pattern. But clearly no one has sustained it for 25 years.

I would also be curious to see PSU record against top 10 teams in years that
PSU also finished in the top 10. My guess is that most of the 41 losses 
occured during PSU's down years.

One other factor skewing the interpretation of the above statistic: Beating
a team like PSU is a big help in becoming ranked in the top 10.

The bottom line is the business of polls, "top 10", "National Champion" etc. 
is B.S. JoePa has advocated a playoff system since he began coaching. 
In the "championship" games that he was able to arrange within the bowl 
system where No.1 faced No.2 he is .500 (2-2). That's not perfect, it's not 
as good as Barry Switzer, but it ain't nothin' to cry about either, and he 
did it with one of the cleanest (also not perfect) programs in the NCAA. 



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From: dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee)
Subject: Re: JP SEC GotW?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:36:08 GMT

JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>What exactly are the terms of the JP contract with the SEC?  TBS
>had to televise each team at least twice; why are we getting all
>these South Carolina games scheduled?  Why not pick up Bama-Ole Miss?

I think if JP had the option, they would want to show Arkansas vs South Carolina
each weekend.  :-)

David

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From: mikail@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mikail Shams)
Subject: Re: Obnoxious Maryland TD Celebrations
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 14:51:33 GMT
Organization: Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences
Distribution: usa
Originator: mikail@pepsi.eng.umd.edu

In article <1992Oct6.004217.23552@ncsu.edu>, jvbutera@grad01.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
> 
> *but it was annoying (as was not having any plastic studium cups to collect).
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> It's interesting someone else noticed this.  I have stadium cups from
> EVERY game I've ever been to, probably 30 different cups, BUT MAryland
> NEVER prints stadium cups. Any Terripins know why?> 

Yes. At one time Maryland served drinks in the plastic stadium cups, but it
became common practice for the student section to use the cups as ammunition
in "Cup Wars". In these battles the students would lob the plastic cups at
each other for 5 to 10 minutes at a time (sometimes entire sections would be
involved). Looking on from the other side of the stadium it looked as if a
huge flock of birds was attacking the students. Apparently, too many people
were getting drenched, injured or both. Hence, drinks are now served in the 
lighweight (waxed) paper cups.
___________________________________________________________________

Also due to recent budget cuts the campus is trying to cut down its
expenses.  The recycleable paper cups with the U of Md. logo is
much cheaper to print out than plastic cups.

Mikail Shams

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From: sager@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mike.r.sager)
Subject: Re: Non-conference records this year
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:18:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.002641.4414@u.washington.edu>, crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
> For the record, here are the current non-conference records of the major
> conferences as printed in McPaper (err, I mean USAT).
> 
> Conference	Record	Percentage
> ACC		15-4	.789

The 15 wins came against: Ball St., Tenn-Chattanooga, Navy (twice), Furman,
Army, Iowa, Appalachian St. (twice), Pittsburgh, Rice, Vanderbilt, West
Carolina, Texas Tech, and East Carolina.

The 4 losses came against: Vanderbilt, Miami, West Virginia, and Penn St.

> Pac Ten	20-7-1	.732

The 20 wins came against: Utah St., Louisville, Pacific, San Jose St. (twice),
Kansas, Texas Tech, UNLV, Fresno St. (twice), Oklahoma, Northwestern,
Notre Dame, Cal St Fullerton, BYU, San Diego St., Wisconsin, Nebraska,
Montana, and Temple.

The 7 losses came against: Miami, Nebraska, Purdue, Hawaii, Kansas, Utah,
and Texas A&M.

The lone tie was against: San Diego St.

> SEC		15-6	.714
> Big East	18-9	.667
> Big Eight	20-11	.645
> SWC		14-13	.519
> WAC		12-13-1	.481
> Big Ten		13-17-1	.436
> Big West	11-16	.407
> MAC		5-11-2	.333
> 
> This summary includes all games played, not just those against division I-A.
> Draw whatever conclusions you like from this.

Ditto.

> ****************************************************************************
> Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
> Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
> University of Washington      *   water again!
> Seattle, WA 98195             *
> ****************************************************************************

Mike Sager
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From: Patrick E Fleming <pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Division III rankings
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:59:06 GMT

Here is the first Division III poll:

East:
1) Ithaca (NY) (4-0)
2) Rowan (NJ) (4-0)
3) Buffalo State (4-0)
4) William Patterson (NJ) (4-0)
5) U. of Rochester (4-0)
6) Union (NY) (4-0)

North:
1) Dayton (Ohio) (4-0)
2) Mount Union (Ohio) (4-0)
3) John Carroll (Ohio) (4-0)
4) Ohio Wesleyan (4-0)
5) Illinios Wesleyan (3-0)
6) Defiance (Ohio) (4-0)

South:
1) Washington & Jefferson (Va) (4-0)
2) Lycoming (Pa) (3-0)
3) Dickinson (Pa) (4-0)
4) Emory & Henry (Pa) (5-0)
5) Susquehanna (Pa) (4-0)
6) Sawanee (Tenn) (4-0)

West:
1) St. John's (Minn) (4-0)
2) Central College (Iowa) (4-0)
3) Wisconsin-River Falls (4-0)
4) Carleton (Minn) (4-0)
5) Wisconsin-La Crosse (3-0)
6) Simpson (Iowa) (3-0-1)

- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
- Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
- Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------
From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: This Week's Predictions...
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:14:44 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
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Last week I was 37-10...  Here are my predictions for this week...

		Air Force	27	Colorado State	21
		Arizona State	33	Oregon State	14
		Ball State	21	Akron		20
		Baylor		28	Houston		24
		BYU		24	Wyoming		20
		Central Mich.	34	Kent State	 7
		Clemson		26	Duke		10
		Colorado	23	Oklahoma	20
		East Carolina	22	Cincinnati	21
		Florida		24	Auburn		21
		Florida State	24	Georgia Tech	17
		Fresno State	24	Hawaii		22
		Georgia		28	Vanderbilt	10
		Iowa		24	Illinois	16
		Kansas		28	Iowa State	14
		Kansas State	31	Utah State	 7
		LSU		26	Kentucky	20
		Louisiana Tech	35	East Tennessee	 6
		Louiville	23	Tulsa		22
		Maryland	26	Wake Forest	21
		Memphis State	40	Arkansas State	 7
		Miami, FL	37	TCU		10
		Miami, OH	27	Ohio U.		10
		Michigan	38	Indiana		13
		Michigan State	24	Minnesota	21
		Mississippi	23	Arkansas	20
		Mississippi St.	33	South Carolina	 8
		Missouri	28	Oklahoma State	20
		NCST		27	Virginia Tech	24
		Nevada-Reno	25	Nevada-Los V.	20
		New Mexico St.	27	Pacific		23
		Ohio State	27	Northwestern	12
		Penn State	27	Boston College	14
		Pittsburgh	23	Temple		14
		Rutgers		28	Army		13
		San Diego State	31	Texas-El Paso	15
		Stanford	27	Arizona		20
		SW Louisiana	24	Fullerton State	13
		Tennessee	28	Alabama		21
		Texas A&M	24	Rice		13
		Toledo		23	Bowling Green	21
		USC		24	California	23
		Utah		31	New Mexico	17
		Virginia	30	North Carolina	14
		Washington	27	Oregon		 7
		Washington St.	23	UCLA		21
		West Virginia	23	Syracuse	20
		Western Mich.	26	Eastern Mich.	13
		Wisconsin	23	Purdue		16

D Man...
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From: dpassage@soda.berkeley.edu (David G. Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rose Bowl..National Champiom??
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:38:52
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
	<1992Oct14.175510.2538@leland.Stanford.EDU>
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In-reply-to: paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU's message of Thu, 15 Oct 92 19:11:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.191107.27172@leland.Stanford.EDU> paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische) writes:

   Yes, we here at Stanford are very afraid of losing to the Bears.
   Especially with all your excess karma buildup that you haven't
   used in the past four years.

Hey, it ain't our fault that Snyder didn't know a thing about upset
karma.

   (subtle anti-woof)

As opposed to the blatant anti-woof down here:

   Jason Gische
   Go Cardinal, even though you don't have a chance against Arizona.

David Paschich