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From: ylsul@athena.mit.edu (Young Sul)
Subject: Re: bimbos
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:13:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.142309.11254@fuug.fi> an3879@anon.penet.fi writes:
>I know several Chinese girls.  It seems that all the Chinese girls
>that I know who grew up or were born here in America are bimbos.
>They wear tons of makeup, use disgusting perfume, smile too much
>(I'm talking about fake and insincere smiles), wear clothes that
>are too tight and skirts that are too high, and just all around
>too gung ho American.
>
>I hate them, every time I see one of them I just want to throw up.

I'm not one to flame, but you are an ass. You provide nothing productive,
waste bandwidth, and, to top it off, you haven't the guts to post openly.

People like you make me sick.

Young Sul
ylsul@athena.mit.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: timlee@netcom.com (Timothy J. Lee)
Subject: Re: Asian american males with African american females
Followup-To: soc.culture.asian.american
Reply-To: timlee@netcom.com (Timothy J. Lee)
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:28:57 GMT

atom@soda.berkeley.edu (Allen Tom) writes:
|Unfortunately, with the way society is now, it'd be difficult to have
|a relationship with an African-american woman.

I do know of one the other way (BM/AW, married).  But B*/A* is rather
rare compared to B*/W* or A*/W* (even when accounting for the larger
number of white people compared to black or asian people in the USA).

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From: david@xlnt.com (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Why are we different?
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:13:37 GMT

In article <Jan.6.00.11.33.1993.12679@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, jin@gandalf.rutgers.edu (GJ) writes:
|> clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >  There were also times that civilization flowered, like the Han
|> >  and Tang Dynasty, which is what I think you're referring to.
|> 
|> Han is the dynasty started adopting Confucianism as the only national
|>  philosophy, and Tang is the dynasty started picking government officials
|>  with the most rote memorization of Confucianism. I'm not saying
|>  Confucianism is no good, but the way they did that just kill creativity
|>  of the culture because no other philosophy could survive. Therefore the 
|> culture has been decaying after those dynasties.

From the perspective of those in power Confucianism is great.
It helps keep them in power.  Free thinking and creativity
has a tendency to spell doom for most goverments.  The US
goverment is about the only one that has survived it.  Even
the European countries cannot boast about having a 200 year old
constitution still in effect.


-- 
David Johnson
XLNT Designs, Inc. (XDI)
david@xlnt.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Frank F. Yu)
Subject: Chinese grade schools (was Re: why are we different)
Originator: yu@physun
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, McMaster University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:53:07 GMT

In article <ROTEN.93Jan7184342@cuba.gsfc.nasa.gov> roten@cuba.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten) writes:
>[deleted]
>Maiko's point supports one of the contentions of the Scientific 
>American article I posted about .. namely, that _more_, rather than 
>less, time was reserved for socialization (in the positive sense of 
>the word) in Asian schools, at least in the lower grades.  This helps 
>the kids to see school in a more positive light than American kids 
>usually do.  

I don't agree with the notion that grade school kids in China have
more time for socialization than, say, Canadian kids have. I can give you
a typical daily schedule of mine then:

	7am    	 arrive at school
	7am-8am  morning reading
	8am-12am four consecutuve classes, 45 min each with 10 minute
		 break in between
	12am-2am go home to eat, noon break, usually having a nap
	2am-4am  two more classes
	4am      go home, or clean up the room if it's my turn, or write
		 very formal public apology for talking to my deskmate.

When I got home, it was usually many hours of homework. This daily schedule
was the same everyday. So the only time I could party in school hours was when
I played truancy, or the school principal decided it was time for a holiday,
or a sports meet. You might ask, what kept me in school those days? I say
my parents. I did not want to disappoint them. Everybody then really had
pride in being the academic number one in class.

When I got into the university, it became much better. If you want to be
a workholic, you can still use your grade school schedule. If you want it to
be more relaxed, you can get by without attending a single class. It all
depends on you. The social life, was almost like imposed on us. We lived
in the dorm, with eight people in a single room, on four bunk beds. The
living standard was low, the comraderie was high. Most of us went on to
become best friends. In comparison, what I got out of the fourth year
Canadian undergraduate study were a degree, and a bunch of names that
sooner or later I am going to forget.

Frank

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka)
Subject: Re: On Languages and Asian Americans
Reply-To: g9utxu@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:41:10 GMT

In article 1i7988INNihl@bigboote.WPI.EDU, tai@wpi.WPI.EDU (L. Taikitsadaporn) writes:


Stuff deleted...
> I was born and raised in Bangkok, Thailand.  My parents are of
>Chinese orgin.  I was educated entirely in English speaking school (from K to
>college).  My parents only speak to my brothers and I in Cantonese, I learned
>English at school and picked Thai from our maids.

Lisa,

Out of curiosity, Why didn't Thai school teach you Thai ? After all, you were born 
in Thailand didn't your parents want you to learn Thai in Thailand. It's like 
being born in the Japan but didn't learn Japanese in Japanese school. 


I too was born and raised in Thailand until 7th grade and my mom always spoke to me 
in English where my dad spoke to me in Thai. They didn't really force me to speak 
English but I always understood what my mom said so when I came to the US, I was 
able to easily adapt. So I am glad my parents spoke both languages but regret that my 
grand parents didn't teach me thier language, Chinese and Portuguese. Yes, I'm a mud.
My grand mother (father's side) was Chinese and spoke fluent Chinese and my grand 
mother (mother's side) was part Portuguess and spoke little Portuguese. I don't know 
how much I would have learned if my grand parents decided to teach me Chinese and 
Portuguese 'cause I don't think a child can learn more than three languages easily 
unless the child is really smart.

>Happy New Year and peace to all.
>
>
>Sincerely,
>Lisa Taikitsadaporn
>(aka Lisa Tai)

Same to you...

Yours,

Tanin U.
From: blee@digi.lonestar.org (Benjamin W. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: AA crime scandal in Orange County
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:15:18 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications, Plano Tx.

In article (Maiko Covington) writes:
>In article underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>
>>>A group of Chinese-American students at a prestigious Fullerton high school
>>>murdered one of their members over the holidays and buried the body in
>>>someone's backyard.  It turns out the group was likely dealing in the theft
......
>	Sorry to take up so much bandwidth on something so silly,
>		Maiko

Hi Maiko and all the responding body,

Not really a complaint or anything; why don't you just put him into your
Kill file? It probabely takes him a few years (or never) to understand
really what he is doing! In the mean time, since we can't control him,
can you spare all of us the futile communication pattern?


Regards,
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com  (Jeff Heilner)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Independent, Fun-loving, Open-minded Asian Woman
Organization: SPS
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:25:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.190756.8128@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
> Here are two sets of situation:
> 
> (1)(a) Chinese-ge men who date only Chinese-ge women
> (2)(a) Caucasian-ge/African-ge men who date who only Chinese-ge women
> 
> (1)(b) Chinese-ge men who go to Asia to marry a Chinese-ge wife
> (2)(b) Caucasian-ge/African-ge men who to Asia to marry a Chinese-ge  
wife
> 
> Chinese-cu routinely condemn #2 as being abnormal.  They say that
> #2a is a fetish thing and that #2b is a mail-order bride thing.
> 
> However, Chinese-cu routinely accept, even praise, #1 as being normal.
> They say that #1a is just natural and that #1b is okay.  They
> might even recommend some friends back there to help their mate-looking
> buddies out.
> 
> What we have is is unadulterated Chinese-cu bigotry.  But then, we
> already knew that, didn't we?


Hmmmm...I think you could substitute any race/culture for Chinese above  
and come up with a situation subject to similar "bigotry." 

For example let's use...say...."German":

Here are two sets of situations:
(1)(a) German-ge men who date only German-ge women
(2)(a) Asian-ge/African-ge men who date who only German-ge women

(1)(b) German-ge men who go to Germany to marry a German-ge wife
(2)(b) Asian-ge/African-ge men who to Germany to marry a German-ge wife

1st generation German-Americans (among many others) may condemn #2 as  
being abnormal, while #1 would be perfectly acceptable.

Chinese-American people hardly have the market cornered on this type of  
"bigotry", or any other type for that matter.

Then again, maybe I'm just another "White Male American" without a clue. 
;)


- Jeff

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: webihara@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Wataru Ebihara)
Subject: Mixed-Race Births
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:36:03 GMT


I thought these numbers might be interesting considering the
discussion on inter-racial marriages, etc...

The following is the number of mixed-race births in the U.S. in
the year 1989. The source is the Population Reference Bureau,
based on figures from the National Center for Health Statistics.

	Black/White    45,019
	Asian/White    38,896
	Native/White   21,088
	
	Asian/Black     3,435
	Native/Black    1,308
	Native/Asian      711

Total mixed-race births in 1989 = 110,457

*Native = Native American
From: dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: ?PC?
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:49:00 GMT
Organization: UB


Just wondering what PC stands for??
Personal Commentary?? Personal Computer?? Pussy Cat?? People of China??
President's Choice?? Permenant Charge?? WHAT??
From: haniff@argon.berkeley.edu (Tariq M. Haniff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: AA & sports Re: Media Stereotypes: The Solution
Date: 10 Jan 1993 21:41:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: argon.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan8.135116.20389@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.030449.23014@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Frank F. Yu) writes:
>I noticed that a lot of AA parents dont encourage their kids to
>excellll in sprot as much as they do encourage them to do well in music.
>I don't mean to generalize anything thing here, just my observations.
>I always wonder in those west coast schools w/ large AA pop., are there
>many AAs playing college sports?  (you folks fr. Cal, please comment).

>Michael Chang is great.  There is also "the Satos" in the national
>volleyball teams (Eric and Leanne Sato) and another JA in the women
>team.  She played in the last Olympics but I forgot her name (Hey Peter
>you can help me out).  These AAs could be good role models for those kids
>who
>like volleyball. 
>
>The Olympic victories and the AA presence inspired
>me to pick up volleyball back in 1984.  I have met many wonderful people
>playing volleyball.  However there seems to be a lack of AA participation
>in this sport (at least in the Chicago area).  Is this because of the
>recall reading one article here where some Standford AAFs commented
>about not wanting to date AAMs who do problem sets, play volleyball, and
>listen to Erasure ...).

>So what sports/activities do you AAs out htere play/participate?
>
>Dan
>
>ps:  thanks for reading.  finally get to talk about my favorite subject

I wrestled for the University of California, Davis.  Wrestling is a sport
where there are quite a few AA's.  Competition is among those in your
weight class, so there are no specific physical biases.   I know it's 
not the most popular or glamorous sport, but just as demanding ,if not more,
than Football or Basketball. Many of the Asian Nations such as North and
South Korea, Iran and Turkey have wone countless medals in world
competitions.

I am still active in competition and coaching.  I know of another AA
named Isaac Ramaswamy from New York, who took third in the National 
Championships and finished fourth in the Olympic Trials last year.
Isaac is on this year's US World Cup Team. (48Kg, Greco-Roman style)
There is another fellow named Sheldon Kim,
from Cal-State Fullerton who placed 7th in the Nationals in 1990.

In 1984, there was a fellow named Abdurahim Kuzu on the US Olympic Team
(68Kg Greco-Roman; 5th place).

-Tariq
From: nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shenina Louise Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Aa males with Afam females
Date: 12 Jan 1993 22:26:19 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

          I've gotten many responses about Aam males dating Afam females, 
but I still have one question to ask:  What is it that attracts Asian-
americans to African-americans?  This may sound crazy, but inquiring minds
want to know...any thought?



-- 
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 NN  N    | "Jazz.... welcome to   | Milwaukee, Wisconsin    
 N N N    |  the meaning of life." | (God! It's cold up here...)     
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: stgprao@st.unocal.COM (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: AA crime scandal in Orange County
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:05:14 GMT

I stand corrected on the nationalities of the five accused and the victim.
The LA times printed bios of the six today: three Chinese-Americans, two Korean-Americans, and
one Latino-American.

There are lots of rumors in papers whether there was a previous crime factor, and/or passion
over a girlfriend was involved.  Most of these people are children of professionals at companies
in North Orange county such as Hughes Aircraft, etc.  Many of my coworkers have children
attending this school and know or know someone who knows these people.  That high school is
supposed to be over 50% AA and popular among professional families.  No one really understands
how this can happen to such "good boys".
From: dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: Why are we different?
Date: 9 Jan 93 02:50:55 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1ilce9INNh9r@spool.mu.edu> johns@m.mscs.mu.edu (John Simms) writes:
>>Rote memorization, cram school, suicide... it's all way too intense.
>>A lot of Japanese kids just don't get many chances to 'have fun' and 
           ^^^^^^^^
>>'be kids'. Many are pushed onto the "shushoku" train from day one, and
>>they aren't enjoying it.
>
>For quite a while now there's been a lot of concern in the U.S. mathematical
>community about how poorly U.S. students compare in mathematics with non-U.S.
>students.  The research that's been done on this indicates that the problem is
>very real, not getting better, and that some of the principal reasons for this
>are that some of what are described above as attributes of the Japanese school
                                                                ^^^^^^^^
>system (rote memorization, etc.) are really more characteristic of U.S.
>schools.  Two sources for this are the book "The Learning Gap," by Harold W.
>Stevenson and James W. Stigler, which I happen to have before me, and a
>research article in "Science" that appeared this week (I think) and whose
>other bibliographical particulars I can't remember.  One finding in the
>"Science" article is that Japanese kids actually report LESS stress than U.S.
>kids do.

Here is what I don't get: why are the Japanese students being credited as the
"smart ones"???
China won all three Math/Physics/Chemistry Olympiads this year,
the American graduate schools are being flooded by students from China,
and Chinese schools are just as intense as the Japanese schools (if not more)
I don't think Beijing Univ is easier to get into than Tokyo Univ or Harvard
(Beijing Univ is probably THE hardest school in the WORLD to get into:
so many hard-working Chinese students all aiming for that school.. Well, maybe
QingHua too, but still)

Ning Wang
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: g9utxu@fnma.COM (Tanin Uthayanaka)
Subject: Re: bimbos
Reply-To: g9utxu@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:32:56 GMT

In article 11254@fuug.fi, an3879@anon.penet.fi () writes:
>I know several Chinese girls.  It seems that all the Chinese girls
>that I know who grew up or were born here in America are bimbos.
>They wear tons of makeup, use disgusting perfume, smile too much
>(I'm talking about fake and insincere smiles), wear clothes that
>are too tight and skirts that are too high, and just all around
>too gung ho American.
>
>I hate them, every time I see one of them I just want to throw up.
>
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It is obvious that this man has a problem. At first I wanted to ignore him 
'cause I'm sure he just wanted attention. But such a racist remarks should ban 
him from having access to this or any other news group. If anyone could help 
in determining where in the Ohio area this man is and contact the proper authority 
to disallow him from using the network.

TU
From: melindac@thedarktower.Corp.Sun.COM (Living on Planet Me)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: time out for a chuckle or two
Date: 5 Jan 1993 22:57:22 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: melindac@thedarktower.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: thedarktower.corp.sun.com


Happy New Year All! I thought you might all enjoy the following story
which was sent to me by a friend who pulled it off rec.humor.funny.

-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-

        I'm a 3rd generation Cantonese-American and have pretty much
forgotten the language.  Hey, I wasn't even raised with it spoken in
my household, but I live in a predominantly Asian neighborhood anyway.
Well, Mormons, whom we all know and love(*cough*), have to save their
money during childhood so that they may go on missionary expeditions
when they hit seventeen years of age or so.  Some even become Urban
Mormons, where they trek to distant(?) parts of Suburbia, seeking
converts.
        So, one day, there was a knock at my door.  So upon answering,
Lo! And Behold!  Who should be standing there, but two young, aspiring
Jehovah's Witn-... I mean, Mormon Missionaries.  Both were Caucasian,
and one was holding a copy of Halston's Mandarin/English Dictionary.
The Mormon holding the dictionary greeted me in a foreign language,
presumably Mandarin, which I didn't understand.  However, I chose to
say nothing; I merely furrowed my brow and intensified my gaze.
Astute, as they were, the missionaries were quick to realize that I
had not comprehended a single word they said, so they squabbled:

        Missionary #1: I told you he wasn't Mandarin.
        Missionary #2: Apparently not.  He's probably wondering what
                       we're trying to say.
        Missionary #1: Maybe he's Vietnamese.
        Missionary #2: (Pulls out Vietnamese/English Dict.) Perhaps.
                       The Word of God was meant to reach all tongues.

        So the second Missionary repeated his greeting in Vietnamese.
I only shrugged my shoulders.  The other Mormon pulled out a Japanese
Dictionary, assuming that I might have been the same.  Again, I merely
shrugged, and we ran the same gauntlet for the Korean language.  I
had to admit, though, that I began to tire of this game.  Taking a
deep breath, I shouted,

        "YOU DAMN FOREIGNERS!  WHY DON'T YOU GO BACK WHERE YOU CAME
FROM AND STOP TAKING OUR JOBS?!?"

        With that, I slammed the door in a grandoise fashion and
couldn't stop laughing for two hours afterward.

-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: jpak@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Jim Pak)
Subject: Re: time out for a chuckle or two
Reply-To: jpak@manute.sps.mot.com 
Organization: Motorola Inc.  Austin, Tx.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:21:58 GMT

That story was HILARIOUS!!  The punchline caught me completely by surprise.

Jim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
From: philly@brahms.udel.edu (Robert Hite)
Subject: Re: Asian american males with African american females
Organization: Univ. of Delaware- Computer Sci. Dept
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:36:58 GMT

In article <1iss80INN2eb@uwm.edu> nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shenina Louise Jones) writes:
>
>         I'm a new poster on this net and I was wondering:  Do any 
>Asian-american men find African-american women attractive?  I've never 
>really read or seen this combination anywhere in the U.S.  I read the 
>many postings, but haven't read anything about this... Any thoughts?


Hi Shenina,

I am not sure if most Asian-american guys find Af-Am women attractive, but I
know the opposite often holds true for me.  I am an African American male and
I find that Asian-Americans in general are very hostile towards Blacks;
especially when involved with one of their own.  I know from experience that 
is case with Black guys and Asian women.

I have a Black female friend from high school who has been dating a Cambodian
guy, and I know she experiences alot of problems from other Blacks and of
course many Asians.  Then again, the East Coast is very uptight about such
things to begin with.
From: mday@jukebox.lcs.mit.edu (Mark Day)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Updating your kill file (was Re: Why are we different?)
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:53:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: jukebox.MDAY.93Jan6145330
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science


   underdog@leland.stanford.edu (Dwight "Joe" Pak) writes:

   [the usual crap]

Little Dwighty has apparently figured out how to modify his personal
name.  This means that anyone who used my previous instructions to put
him into your gnus kill file will have had the same unpleasant
surprise I had: he's ba-a-a-ck!

To restore your gnus to a Dwight-free state, while reading scaa do M-k
and modify your Dwight Joe line to be the following:

(gnus-kill "From" "underdog@leland\\.Stanford\\.EDU.*")

then do C-c C-c to save the change.

Since this ignores everything after the name@host, hopefully it
doesn't matter what little Dwighty calls himself, as long as he keeps
posting from that account.

--Mark Day

mday@lcs.mit.edu