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From: bryan@edgar.mn.org (Bryan Halvorson)
Subject: Re: DS9 on Superstation WGN channel 9 Chicago
Organization: Electronics 101. Apple Valley MN
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 12:49:04 GMT

In article <C0EEwq.5vu@chinet.chi.il.us> dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us (Dan Hartung) writes:
>TSAKETO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>>bau55536@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Larry Combs Jr) writes:
>> 
>>>DS9 is scheduled to be shown on Sunday Jan. 3 at 7pm.  Whether or not
>>>it will come over the cable feed is another story.
>> 
>>I hoped to catch DS9 last night (Jan 3rd) on WGN, which I get thru my
>>cable system. It was not shown, now I have to wait until the 10th when
>>the local (Detroit) FOX station will air it.
>
>When you say "not shown" do you mean something ELSE was shown, or
>that it was "blacked out" according to FCC simultaneous rebroadcast
>rules?

According to a friend of mine DS9 was shown on the air on WGN but was
not uplinked on WGN's satellite feed. Something else was shown on the
satellite feed instead.

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 10:41:41 EST
From: Wendell Bates <WRB4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Best Episode?

In article <1993Jan6.143637.29934@newssun.med.miami.edu>,
dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown) says:
>
>I only recently became a fan of TNG and even more recently a reader of this
>net, so I hope that this question doesn't open a previously closed
>Pandora's Box.  What is in your opinion the best eposiode of TNG?  I realize

Without a doubt, "Lal".  Or could it be "Yesterday's Enterprise?"  Hmmm...

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From: Chris.Graham@f344.n632.z3.fidonet.org (Chris Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: R.A.M. lists?
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 19:55:24

To: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)

 h>  From the r.a.m. actor list:

Could you post the lists of all of the main actors on TNG?

I'd like to see them and what their acting is like.

-Chris


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From: Bucky.Whaley@launchpad.unc.edu (Bucky Whaley)
Subject: Re: Linda Hunt in Space Rangers
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: The Lutefisk Watch
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            <1993Jan11.203651.2003@stsci.edu>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:32:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.203651.2003@stsci.edu> 
 wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>Please take this discussion to some other newsgroup, such as
>rec.arts.sf.tv .  It *does not* belong in rec.arts.startrek.current .

Please set followups to the appropriate newsgroup.  They *do not*    
belong in misc.test .

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From: chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Chaim R. Dworkin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: mumblings on DS9 pilot
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:14:41 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan6.203810.28932@henson.cc.wwu.edu> lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert) writes:
>
>
>SPOILERS AHEAD....
>
>
>
>

>
>
>Rene what's his name as Odo was quit egood, but has anyone asked the
>obvious question?  If he can be any shape, why does he choose to look
>like a freak?  As my wife put it, why doesn't he choose to look
>like Patrick Stewart?
>





This question was answered in the press release for DS9.
Apparently that is as close to human as he is able to 
make himself look.  The press release said he can make
himself look like any inanimate object but has great
difficulty making himself look like living things.

Otherwise he wouldn't have to make himself into a bag
for the Cardassians to carry onto their ship; he could 
have made himself into a Cardassian and just walked onto
the ship.


Chaim R. Dworkin
chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu
From: zing@wilber.rich.nt.com (Leon Z. Lee)
Subject: Re: Bajor=Tibet?
Organization: Northern Telecom, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:04:21 GMT

In article <1ildq3INN2q4@shelley.u.washington.edu> kcarroll@stein.u.washington.edu writes:
>how nice to have a religion with
>a tangible, functioning artifact
>and not have to rely on "faith"

This scenario is more related to the Kurdish minority in Iraq where Islam
is suppose to hold the populace together as the attempt at this thing we
call a "democracy".  And as I am sure most of you CNN watchers realize that 
a semi-civil war has erupted between various factions in the Kurdish Autonomous
region of northern Iraq.

It has less plausible standing in its relation to Tibet.  
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From: A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk  (A.M.T. Bell)
Subject: Re: Deprived in UK (TNG)
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:33:12 GMT

In article 14108@ecs.soton.ac.uk, dl91@ecs.soton.ac.uk (D Lewis) writes:
>Replying to Deprived in Scotland (and anyone who's interested)
>
>The only way to see TNG in the UK at the moment is either by BSkyB
>(and the run ends on 14/1/93, though it is being repeated from the 
>start of season one as of 15/1/93) or by video "from any good video 
>store". 
>
>As for the BBC, I hope they do what they did with the first showing
>and buy three seasons. I'll need more video tapes!
>
>As for Deep Space Nine, God knows when this'll surface over here. 
>Might make it before the turn of the century. If the BBC runs all 
>the TNG episodes before-hand, I reckon it'll be 1997, at least.
>This is worked out by using usual BBC rules:
>
>1) Finish Star Trek TOS season one* at one episode a week.
>2) Show TNG seasons four, five and six at one episode a week.
>3) Reshow Star Trek approx. six months later as in 1. 
>4) Raise some cash by selling TNG seasons four, five and six to 
>   BSkyB.
>5) Show TNG season seven, etc. (even though the US will be on     
>   season twelve!) as in  2.
>6) Reshow Star Trek TOS approx. six months later as in 1 and 3.

I understand that the current repeat showing of TOS by the Beeb is the last TOS
as the Beeb's rights to TOS run out next year (or something)

>7) Raise some more cash by selling TNG season seven, etc. to BSkyB.
>8) Show DS9 season one at the same pace.
>
>(Take this with a pinch of salt, they may surprise us yet!)
>
>* If they show it all, add another couple of years. 


I reckon in 5 years or so "everyone" will have a dish so maybe Sky will be a better
bet than the Beeb for catching up with the americans.


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From: dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown)
Subject: Best Episode?
Organization: University of Miami, School Of Medicine
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:36:37 GMT

I only recently became a fan of TNG and even more recently a reader of this
net, so I hope that this question doesn't open a previously closed 
Pandora's Box.  What is in your opinion the best eposiode of TNG?  I realize
that are probably many, but try to choose one.  I catch a lot of the 
re-runs on a local channel, but it's pretty unreliable (so I'd like to
rent the videos of the good episodes I've missed).  

My personal favorite thus far is "Darmok," where Picard is beamed to an
unfamiliar planet to establish communications with the captain of an alien
ship.  I thought that the parallel with _Gilgamesh_ was great.

E-mail replies welcome.

Dan

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From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Riker in command
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 16:42:27 EST

In article <rawdon.726259552@cs.wisc.edu>
rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
 
   [at the risk of pissing off a few people, a lot of stuff deleted,
but I really don't see the need to repeat the whole thing for my comment.]
>
   spoilers for CoC?  though you gotta be kidding if you ain't seen it yet.
>
>>I tend to think Jellicoe's appointment was intended as short-term, since
>>the Vice-Admiral specifically mentions his experience with the Cardassians
>>as the real reason she gave him the job.
>
>On the other hand, Riker said that "they don't usually go through the ceremony
>for a temporary assignment".  If the assignment were temporary, then they
>would have just made an impromptu move as they did with Riker in "The Best Of
>Both Worlds" (where Riker was temporarily assigned as captain of the
>Enterprise).
>
>>					   If Picard had died, I don't
>>think Jellicoe would have stayed on much longer after the Cardassian
>>incident, but they went through the command ceremony in case the Cardassian
>>incident was going to turn sour and drawn out, in which case there would
>>be no time or need for the Enterprise to go on to other assignments.
>
>That doesn't make any sense.  WHY would they go through the ceremony then, if
>it was intended to be a temporary assignment, but not tell ANYONE else?  The
>only functional purpose of the ceremony we know of is that it indicates to the
>crew (and others, perhaps) that the change is intended to be permanent.  If
>it's NOT intended to be permanent, why put on the pretense that it IS?
>
    If we take the interpretation offered here that Jellico was a control-
freak and a stickler for regulations and military protocol, then his ego
may have demanded a ceremony, of which he was entitled to it, at least by
the regs, no matter how temporary.
           Also, Picard may have wanted Jellico to have the fancy ceremony
since, as Riker stated in BoBW "[Picard] wrote the book on the Enterprise.",
and Picard wanted to make it clear that Jellico (whether temporary or not)
was the head honcho now.
    Contrast the fancy ceremony that Jellico got with the non-ceremony
Picard got at the end of part 2 where we know definitely that Picard is
"permenantly" getting E-D back.
 
>>There is also still the possibility that the Vice-Admiral was indeed a spy,
>>which is even perhaps likely given the unlikeliness of Picard's selection
>>for the mission.
>
>What evidence do you have that she was a spy?  It's highly unlikely that she
>has the authority all by herself to remove Picard from his command.  More
>likely she had authorization from her superiors.
>
   No evidence, but it would make some of the larger questions in CoC at
least understandable.  You never know what the writers may be planning
(or what writers' block they will have) in the future.  [I'm thinking
specifically of 'Why send Picard' thread.  Data's explanation just did not
seem to jell.]
 
   PS: To Mike Rawdon
     "Naked Now"? you gotta be kidding...
 
   Junsok Yang
From: jgraham@axion.bt.co.uk (John Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST:TNG episode guide
Date: 5 Jan 93 12:00:58 GMT
Reply-To: jgraham@axion.bt.co.uk (John Graham)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


I too am interested in the ST:TNG episode guide and
would appreciate it if someone could e-mail me a copy.

Thanks

John
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From: eroth@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (elizabeth.s.roth)
Subject: Re: Calling Women "Sir"
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:18:22 GMT

In article <rawdon.726777945@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>In <C0Iqwx.CGr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> dawn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dawn Owens-Nicholson) writes:

>>I hate it when they call women "Sir" or "Mister."
>>What it says to me is this: Positions of respect are
>>reserved for men.  For women to gain these positions,
>>they must become honorary or symbolic men.  They 
>>must become "sirs" because "ma'ams" are not respectable.

>
>This may be what you're hearing, but is it what they're saying?
>

I, for one, have no problem with this.  Everyone gets addressed
with the same amount of respect.  Much better than getting
addressed as Miss or Mrs. which not only designates gender, but
marital status.  Ugh!


Susan

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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Re: Why aren't there any black aliens?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 02:12:24 GMT

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Distribution: world
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Keywords: 

In article <1iij6eINNgcv@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> holland@geop.ubc.ca writes:
>In article GBC@news.cso.uiuc.edu, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) 
rites:
>>Stephen Holland writes
>>> And don't forget that the Klingons are played by black actors.
>>
>>
>>Weren't the Klingons in the latest Star Trek movie white?  And the Klin
ons in ST:TOS?  Finally, Worf's son is the same kid (Brian Bost___, I for
ot his complete name) on Family Ties.  He is also not African-American.  
e is under a lot of makeup, however, the statement "Klingons are played b
 black actors" is incorrect.
>>
>No, the statement is incomplete.  Most Klingons are played by black acto
s.
>Take a look of the publicity shots of Klingons putting their make-up on.
>The Klingons in the last movie were played by African-American
>actors.  Perhaps a few weren't but they were still "made-up" to have dar

>skin colours.  The Klingons in the original series were, for all
>practical purposes, a differenct race.  Alexandre is annoying so lets
>just pretend that he doesn't exist :-).  
>
>So, insert "most" into my original statement and pretend it was there al

>along.  
>
>
>


John Tesh (of ET (that's Entertainment Tonight, not Extra-Terrestrial)
and the keyboard) played a Klingon on that episode of TNG where the
two Klingon warriors, unable to live with the kinder, gentler Klingon
nation, tried to take over the big E.  And he is definitely NOT 
black.

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From: dsohl@spock.uucp (Daniel Sohl)
Subject: DS9 in wherever...
Organization: Choate Rosemary Hall
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:08:58 GMT

Please.... The rest of the world doesn't have to hear where/when DS9 will
be shown in S. Fla or San Jose or wherever... Please limit the distribution
on this type of posting. Thanks a lot in advance.
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From: rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: rec.arts.startrek.review?
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:59:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.C0r8rF.63H
Organization: School of Statistics, University of Minnesota

In article <rawdon.726860859@cs.wisc.edu>, rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
|> In <1its73INNij0@spud.Hyperion.COM> koreth@spud.Hyperion.COM (Steven Grimm) writes:
|> >I would vote for rec.arts.startrek.reviews.  The episode reviews are the
|> >main reason I read r.a.s.c. now.  Ideally, it would be a moderated group
|> >to prevent people from holding discussions there (followups would be
|> >directed to rec.arts.startrek.current, presumably).  To keep things timely,
|> >regular reviewers might be given permission by the moderator to post their
|> >reviews directly, the same way rec.arts.startrek.info handles Tim Lynch's
|> >synopses.  This can be done in any of several ways depending on how much
|> >control the moderator wants to retain.
|> 
|> I was marginally in favor of rec.arts.startrek.reviews back when The Big Split
|> was being discussed (it was the only group that seemed to serve any useful
|> purpose to me), but with the explosion of reviews recently, I think it would
|> be a good idea.  (Now don't everyone faint at once! :-)
|> 
|> I would even be willing to volunteer for moderator, unless someone else wants
|> the job.

I was _more_ in favor of it than Michael, originally, and my interest has
increased since then.

In light of the ridiculous amount of flubber and fluff being bandied back
and forth, it'd probably be the only startrek group I read on a regular
basis.  (Now that I'm given the opportunity to narrow the focus on what
I am - or am not - interested in, I find I just junk 'em all now... :-)

I'd offer to help as co-moderator (same offer as I made originally) if
it makes such a group functional.

If this goes anywhere, someone send me email.  I'm sure I won't see any
of the discussion.  :-)

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From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Trill
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:21:49 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Keywords: Trill Dax
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan12.040825.22840@engr.uark.edu> aar@engr.uark.edu (Albert A. Ruth) writes:

>Ok, does the host (the female body) have a personality seperate from the 
>slug inside of it. 

Apparently.  Remember that the host whispered something (a name?) while
on the operating table prior to implantation.  There also seemed to be
emotion in her voice.


>Did the female body lose its personality
>when the slug entered or are they two seperate entities? Can someone explain
>this to me?

Riker's personality seemed to be lost while he was carrying a Trill.
Of course that may have been because a) he was human and not [Trill host]
or b) he never had much personality to begin with. :-)
From: dlou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Dennis Lou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Replacement for Picard
Date: 7 Jan 93 04:03:18 GMT
Reply-To: dlou@ece.ucsd.edu
Organization: University of California, San Diego


In article <1993Jan07.015117.27853@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu>, msmallwo@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (M. Lee Smallwood) writes:
|> This (Riker refusing command of any ship) in itself implies
|> that there are NO more Galaxy class ships (that are in working
|> order. Any that were in the fleet were either destroyed or
|> under construction). Does anyone see any holes in this
|> theory??? (not that I'm trying to boast -- I just want to see a
|> resolution!)


Perhaps Riker didn't just want any Galaxy class ship but rather
the Enterprise specifically.  A ship is not just a hunk of matter and
anti-matter; what makes it great (as ST writers want us to believe)
is the crew too.


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From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Deep Review 9: "The Emissary" (SPOILERS)
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:48:22 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <86433@ut-emx.uucp> wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Patrick Chester) writes:




>To quote Arnie, the T-800: "Negative, guns require moving parts and chemicals."
>A phaser holds a lot of power and probably has *some* sort of parts (trigger
>mechanism, etc.)

Um, aren't you getting your sci-fi mixed up here?  This isn't Terminator
2, it's Deep Space Nine.  Just because the effects look the same does not
mean the characters must act the same way, or that they have the same
limitations.

>If it's him, it won't work. If it's a separate piece of electronics then
>maybe he holds the thing inside himself while in other forms til he needs
>it.

Again, why do you assume that Odo must follow the same laws that the T1000
did?

>In Deja-Q, Geordi had the idea of projecting the Big-E's warp field around
>the moon, making the local mass lesser. Wasn't the station's subspace field
>similar?

Yeah, and it was hokey then, too. ;-)


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From: tpenning@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Thomas R Pennington)
Subject: Re: Computer voices
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:01:39 GMT

In article <abick.726386921@cunews> abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) wri
tes:
>Did anyone else find it stupid that the Saratoga had the same computer
>voice as the Enterprise? I remember that in the old series (namely Gary-7)
>Kirk was annoyed with the "new" computer voice calling him "dear". Spock
>said that it had been changed in a recent refit. If it is so easy to
>change why would all ships have the same voice in TNG?
>
>Alan Bick
>

Why wouldn't they have the same computer voice?  If I do recall Star Fleet
is a military organization, and as with other military organizations, they
would have a love for everything the same. Hence, uniforms from starship
to starship (not necessaryly base), weapons being the same shape, ship's
computer voices being the same, and the ship's nomencature in the same spot.


-thomas
                              "Knowledge for the sake of knowledge is
                                        always worth something"
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