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From: 8905991@ul.ie
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: terminal I/O and VAX C
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:51:31 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

Hello To All,
	This is my first posting but I think this should be clear enough!
My Question:

I have recently started programming in VAX C and I am using Curses.
I need to read control characters from the terminal,
	for the user to get a reaction without having to press
return each time!

e.g. if I use stdio's getchar() I have to press return to send the 
	character	----	this sucks!

This is probably due to my inexperience with VMS programming
and my past experience was on Macintosh.

If you could e-mail me or post it to this group I would be most 
gratefull.


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From: uucm000@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Tape backup problem.
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:18:36 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In our VAX 4300 we are using a TLZ04 Dat tapeback up to backup our RF72
disk with the command:

backup/verify/record/ignore=(label,inter)/list=backup.log -
  userdisk:[*...] -
  mka0:month_day.bck/rewind/owner_uic=original/save_set

The backup stage is ok, but when comes to verify stage, the backup gives
out error message for every verifying file. And the verify stage takes
for a long long time.

The error message is like this:
%BACKUP-E-VERIFYERR, verification error for block 5 of $1$DIA1:.....
%BACKUP-W-FIDNOTFND, internal error. File to be processed not found...

I don't have any problem with my incremental backup.

Tingli Pan                           
Academic Computing Services          Internet: uucm000@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Northeastern Illinois University     Bitnet:   uucm000@ecnuxa.bitnet 
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: robert@humble.pe.utexas.edu (Robert R. Schneider)
Subject: Multi-volume Backup from an InfoServer tape device
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Dept. of Petroleum Eng., Univ. of Texas - Austin
Date: 12 Oct 1992 22:31 CDT  

Hi;

Does anyone know how to get Backup to correctly handle a multi-volume Backup
saveset which is being read from a tape device which is connected to an
InfoServer-150?  It reads the first volume of the tape set correctly but I
haven't been able to find a way to get it to read the next volume without
aborting and reading the next tape in the volume set as a completely new
volume.  I've tried using Reply to get Backup to substitue a new service
( i.e. reply/to=x "S MADn:" ) but Backup seems to insist on using the initial
device which was bound to the service.  Any ideas???

Thanks!

Robert Schneider
Department of Petroleum Engineering
The University of Texas at Austin
From: jjc+@PITT.EDU ("Jeffrey J. Carpenter")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: KERBEROS as replacement for SYSUAF
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:20:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: pitt.Uer9oUS2ATtmEZMjIJ
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> In the mean time I had investigated writing a custom LOGINOUT that would use
> Kerberos for authentication - yuck!  I think the idea of replacing the related
> system services is a much more elegant solution.  I would be interested in any
> work along these lines.  If we could get enough people interested we could
> do it as a group project.  I would be glad to do some of the work, but I don't
> want to do it all if I can help it.

> >> ... and arrange to discuss the issues with
> >> the other people who have worked on related projects.

> Nobody at DEC admits to working on, thinking about, or taking seriously the
> question of network security.  If there are any "related projects" inside or
> outside of DEC I have been unable to locate them.


Hi Bill,

We have ported the MIT Kerberos Libraries to VMS and have a patched
LOGINOUT that will speak to our Kerberos servers.  We do not have a
change password mechanism in place because we are using AFS Kerberos and
it does not use the same mechanism as MIT Kerberos.

We are not yet running this in production yet, but have been testing it.
 I can put you in contact with the person doing the work here, if you
like.


	jeff

---
Jeffrey James Bryan Carpenter

System and Networks,Computing and Information Srvcs.,University of Pittsburgh
600 Epsilon Drive, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238-2887
jjc+@pitt.edu, jjc@pittvms.bitnet, +1 412 624 6424, FAX +1 412 624 6436
From: LARRY%TROPIQ@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Can anyone recommend a more tolerant tape drive?
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:08:07 GMT
Organization: The Internet

We have to read a lot of 9-track, 6250 bpi tapes that 
are created on remote systems.  We find that our DEC 
TSZ07 (especially) and our older System Industries 9621 
often fail to be able to read those tapes.  We keep our 
drives adjusted to manufacturers' specs.  

Does anyone know of a 9-track drive for SCSI VAX's that 
has a reputation for being more tolerant of variations 
when reading tapes?

If anyone asks, I'll summarize, of course.  Thanks.

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: gowen@sevmsa.cs.msstate.edu
Subject: Is there a DEC SAS or SPSS?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:16:59 GMT

Does anyone know if DEC has SAS or SPSS?  I need to do some statistical
analyses, and I would like to use one of these products.  If DEC does make
either of these software packages, please let me know the products name.

Thanks in advance!

Lon

-- 
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e-mail:   gowen@cs.msstate.edu
US Mail:  Computer Science Department; Mississippi State University;
          Butler Hall Room #320; P.O. Drawer CS; MS State, MS 39762
From: ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Why is Graphics of SOFTPC so slow on a VAXstation 3100/
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:15:59 GMT
Organization: The Internet

> > The VS has only about 2.4 VUPS which compares to about 6-8 VUPS on A386DX33.
> 
> Is it possible?! I never managed to find in DEC's publications any comparison
> of Intel 80x86 to the VAX family, but this is astonishing...
> BTW: Why DEC shows performance of DECpc in MIPS, VAX/MicroVAX/VAXstation in
> VUPs, and DECsystem/DECstation in Specmarks ? Is it deliberate, to make
> comparisons more difficult for a user :-( ?

We have just had this discussion on INFO-VAX and I do not hope we will have
to repeat the entire discussion.

The argument for the different performance marks are:

   - If you consider to buy a DECpc, then the alternative is an IBM PS/2 or
     another compatible. Such alternative computers are sometimes
     measures in MIPS (and sometimes in IBM XT units).
   - If you consider to buy a VAX, then the question is usually how
     many VAX'es and/or how big a VAX. Then VUPS (or MVUPS) is a relevant
     unit.
   - If you consider to buy a DECstation, then there are some alternative
     UNIX workstations. And such beasts are often measured in SPECMARKS.

It is not easy to compare a VAX 9440 with a 486 PC in a reasonable way !

So DEC decided to do what they do. You may disagree and want a common
measure of performance, but you are not CEO of DEC so ...

                                                          Arne

Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK
From: laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: HELP undelete:  me again
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:50:54 GMT
Organization: Gull Island Consultants, Inc.

In article <1bepmhINN96g@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, koehler@secs.ucsc.edu writes:
> Hi -I inadvertantly delted about two weeks worth of C code with the del
> command!  I notice that the delete command has the /noerase qualifier as
> the default -so my files are still around until written over?
> Is there a recovery command or utility to rescue my lost files?
> Any help will be much appreciated!
> Thanks, Ryan

Hello again,

Oops, almost forgot.  If it is at all practical, do a BACKUP/PHYSICAL of
the disk in question so that you can preserve the deleted files as they
sit on the disk.  That'll buy you time while you find/write a recovery
program.

-- 
Bill Laut			Internet:  laut@alien.gici.com
Gull Island Consultants, Inc.	Phone:     (616) 780-3321
P.O. Box 627
Muskegon, MI  49440		>> "Usual disclaimers, apply within" <<
From: MRL@PFC.MIT.EDU (Mark London)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: New version of LASER symbiont with TCP.
Date: 9 Oct 92 03:27:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I have a new version of the LASER postscript printer symbiont available via
ANONYMOUS FTP at PFC.MIT.EDU.  I now has modifications given to me which allow
it to talk to a printer using TCP.  I have tested it under MULTINET with our
printers here which are connected via terminal servers and it seems to work ok
(in fact, it seems to work faster than LAT, which is not surprising given the
small packet size of LAT).  There is also now a compile switch which will make
the symbiont work without the need for the printer to be able to transmit to
the computer.  In addition, I have tried to make it more robust, in particular
trying to solve a bug which caused the queue to stall.
 
Mark
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DCL CONVERT cannot reduce file size
Date: 12 Oct 1992 21:56:03 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct12.142457.206@indyvax.iupui.edu>, harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
=In article <E25D3328357FA06DE6@CPHKVX.BITNET>, 88175839@CPHKVX.CPHK.HK writes:
=> I recently discovered that after we deleted pages from the VTX
=> infobase with VTX workbench function, the VTX infobase files
=> did not become smaller.
=>
=> Thus I tried DCL CONVERT (with many different combinations of qualifiers);
=> however, out of my expectation, only the actual size of the file became smaller
=> but not the allocated size.
=>
=> Can someone help me to reclaim those unused disk blocks ?
=
=Use SET FILE/TRUNCATE to release allocated but unused blocks of a file.

SET FILE/TRUNCATE doesn't work on indexed files.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Reclaiming deleted space within a file
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:41:02 GMT
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

In article <9210112107.AA13959@uu3.psi.com>, leichter@lrw.com (Jerry Leichter) writes:
...
> Off hand, I know of no system that uses best fit allocation for disk memory;
> it's too expensive to implement, and it's questionable if it really helps.
> Often, first fit does at least as well, and is faster.  (If the free areas
> are on a linked list, first fit tends to put small blocks and large blocks
> at opposite ends of the list.  If effect, you get multiple pools for free.)
> 

Another alocation algorithm that is very good is the 'buddy' or 'best-buddy'
system. I won't try to describe it, its 8 years or so since I read the paper
and I'd screw up royaly. It has it property that for a given sized request
you only have to probe a few addresses in your pool.

~Paul
From: Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: RE: How do you determine   DECterm != vt300  ?
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 06:20:53 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Brian Tillman (tillman@swdev.si.com, tillman_brian@si.com) writes:

>Loren Schall (schall@swtech.cfsat.honeywell.com) writes:
>
>>GETDVI reports a DECterm as a vt300.  The problem is, now, sometimes
>>I'm using a vt340.  What's the right way to distinguish between a
>>vt300 and a DECterm?
>
>If you are worried about sixel graphics, don't.  DECterms do sixel graphics 
>just fine.  

I've noticed some very strange, just plain WRONG, behavior of DECterms doing
Sixel graphics recently: I TYPE out a file full of Sixel data which on a 
VT240 produces, say, a Far Side cartoon, and on the DECterm I get four dupli-
cations of the image, side by side, the first with a missing horizontal 
scanline out of every ten or so, the second with maybe two adjacent scanlines
missing out of every ten, the third with maybe five missing, and the fourth
with maybe eight of ten missing.  

This is on a VAXstation 4000 Model 90 (board-upgraded recently from a Model
60 with SPXGT (?) 24-plane graphics, running I'm not sure what version of VMS
and the DECwindows (not Motif) window manager.  DECterms did Sixel correctly
when this thing was a Model 60 running various field-test versions of VMS 
V5.5-2 and the Motif window manager, so it's quite possible some weird inter-
action is arising out of our patchwork OS/windowing version melange.  I can't
be any more specific on any of this until the Model 90 comes back from a 
show we sent it out to.  Has anybody else seen this problem, though?
 
>You can distinguish, if you wish, via the device names.  VT340s are not 
>FT devices.                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 ^^^^^^^^^^

... and neither is a DECterm under all but the most recent version of Motif.
I've got a DECterm up right now under DECwindows and it's a TW device...

Chris Chiesa
   Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: Re: Setting Symbols Via C Program
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:00:32 GMT


In article <14OCT199208484355@accvio.intel.com>,
dmills@accvio.intel.com (Dave Mills) writes:
|>
|>I'd be cautious about this program, for one reason - speed.  I wrote a
|>login.exe a while back (VMS 4.7?), which did pretty much everything one
|>normally puts in sylogin.com.  After timing the thing, I noted that the
|>performance of the section which assigned symbols was basically the same speed
|>as the original DCL.  I can't give you an amazingly technical reason, but you
|>can imagine that since symbols are a purely DCL entity, defining them in their
|>"native" environment is about as fast as you can get.  Other portions of the
|>login.exe, which performed more complex tasks, where improved as expected. 
|>
|>So...I'd suggest against a program which simply sets all the symbols.

Strange.  My experience is exactly the opposite.  I find that using a program
to define logicals and symbols (via LIB$SET_LOGICAL and LIB$SET_SYMBOL) was
about an order of magnitude faster than doing the same things via DCL.  You
bypass file I/O and parsing overhead.

--PSW
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: toupine@casi.cba.du.edu (Ed Toupin)
Subject: NML and NICE
Originator: ttoupin@zephyr.cair.du.edu
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:29:13 GMT

I am looking for individuals who have experience with the NICE protocol.  

I have a small application that is to collect statistical network information from
several nodes.  I have reviewed the NICE manual from DEC and found it to be
quite useful in explaining how to extract information using NICE.

FYI:  I currently have a small network application that calculates %util, busiest
nodes and can perform loopback tests with net nodes. 

My question is how to connect to the NML or do I communicate via NET0:?  I
attempted to connect to NML and received a slew of errors.

Which device do I connect to?



Ed Toupin
toupine@casi.cba.du.edu
From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DCL CONVERT cannot reduce file size
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:24:56 -0500
Organization: Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapolis

In article <E25D3328357FA06DE6@CPHKVX.BITNET>, 88175839@CPHKVX.CPHK.HK writes:
> I recently discovered that after we deleted pages from the VTX
> infobase with VTX workbench function, the VTX infobase files
> did not become smaller.
>
> Thus I tried DCL CONVERT (with many different combinations of qualifiers);
> however, out of my expectation, only the actual size of the file became smaller
> but not the allocated size.
>
> Can someone help me to reclaim those unused disk blocks ?
>
> K.C. Tam
>
>

Use SET FILE/TRUNCATE to release allocated but unused blocks of a file.

--
James Harvey    IUPUI OIT Technical Support
harvey@iupui.edu  uucp: iugate!harvey  bitnet: harvey@indyvax
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: toupine@casi.cba.du.edu
Subject: NICE and NML
Originator: ttoupin@zephyr.cair.du.edu
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 17:06:12 GMT

COMP.OS.VMS

I am looking for individuals who have experience with the NICE
protocol.  Please respond at your convienience.

Ed Toupin
toupine@casi.cba.du.edu
From: twtick@corral.uwyo.edu (Tom Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: sys$trnlnm example for vaxc please
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:56:18 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


In article <9210090753.AA02996@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, you write...
>Does anyone have an example of setting up the descriptor and calling
>sys$trnlnm from vaxc? We have examples of calling system services but
>we're not finding logicals we know should be returned.
> 
>Thanks
>rossji@js-jtf.af.mil
> 
> 

First off, I set up the descriptor using this routine which returns the
descriptor of the string you pass:

c$dsc(char *string)
{
  struct dsc$descriptor *c$_tmpdesc;

  c$_tmpdesc = malloc(8);
  c$_tmpdesc->dsc$w_length = strlen(string);
  c$_tmpdesc->dsc$b_dtype = DSC$K_DTYPE_T;
  c$_tmpdesc->dsc$b_class = DSC$K_CLASS_S;
  c$_tmpdesc->dsc$a_pointer = string;
  return (c$_tmpdesc);
}

Then I call this routine to return the value of the logical you request:

char *get_logical(char *table,char *logical)
{
  static char name[80];
  int name_len;
  ITEM_LIST_3_T(il,1) = {{{sizeof name,LNM$_STRING,&name,&name_len}},0};
                                                                 
  if((sys$trnlnm(&LNM$M_CASE_BLIND,c$dsc(table),c$dsc(logical),0,&il)&1) !=1)
    return(NULL);
  else {
    name[name_len] = '\0';
    return(name);
  }
} 

Where ITEM_LIST_3_T is:

#define ITEM_LIST_3_T(variable_name,num_items) \
  struct \
  { \
    ITEM_3_T  item[num_items]; \
    int  terminating_zero; \
  }  variable_name

Hope this helps.

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- - Tom Wilson 		       +  University of Wyoming   - Just a lowly      -
+ twtick@corral.uwyo.edu       -    Computer Science      + student programmer+
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From: ltran@netcom.com (Linh C Tran)
Subject: Correct terminal emulation from SUN to Ultrix to VMS ?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: World
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:47:33 GMT


Help...

I am not getting anywhere with DEC CS support with my problem.  My problem is
that when my user from a Sun's Open window V2.0 telnet to an Ultrix machine
and dlogin to a VMS machine.  The keyboard mapping for the RETURN key does not
responded.  It understand ^n as the return key.  I tried to find SUN utility 
Vt100tool to set up the terminal emulation but to no avail...

Is there anything I can do or do I have to live with ^n as the return key ?

The SUn runs OS V4.1.1, ULtrix OS V4.1 and VMS OS 5.4

Thanx in advance...

Linh Tran		ltran@netcom.com
From: biol_res@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Novell's "Capture command" - VMS equivalent..?
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:00:45 GMT
Organization: Western Michigan University

Hi,

	A question for users on the Novell and VMS.
Is there any command on the VMS OS similar to the "CAPTURE" command
on Novell. To put it in plain terms, if we have multiple print (or any)
queues on the Novell n/s, to direct the output to a particular queue
we use the capture /q=print_serv1. This directs all the printouts
to that specified queue until  an endcap command is issued. On a similar
note, is there a way of defaulting a queue on the VAX. I know I could
use $print/queue="queue_name" filename everytime, but you can see it
could be a pain if you intend to use that queue quite often.

	So my question (once again) is can I route all my print jobs
to a specified queue without having to use the /queue="queue_name"
everytime. Any info would be greatly appreciated. BTW, please post 
your response to the net or (to reduce the traffic on the net) mail your
response to "chalasan@cs.wmich.edu". Thanks


Sri Chalasani
From: bill@bill.ab.umd.edu (Bill Bame)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: HELP! SCSI formatting on 3100/80.
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:36:57 GMT
Reply-To: bill@office.ab.umd.edu
Organization: M.I.E.M.S.S.

I have my brand new 3100/80 set up with 3 Seagate ST1480N disk drives
inside.  Unfortunately these drives are unformatted.  The 3100/80 docs
don't say how to format a SCSI drive, and I couldn't find anything on
the DEC documentation CDs.  I have formatted SCSI drives on other VAXen
(Vaxstation 3100/30, Vaxstation 3100/76), but the console ROMs for the
3100/80 aren't the same (probably more like the 4000/60 if you have one
of those).  Here's what I have done so far...
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> TEST/UTIL SCSI
1 - SCSI-flp_key
2 - SCSI-tp_key
3 - SCSI-hd_dsk_eras
4 - SCSI-flp_fmt

SCSI_util>>> 3

SCSI_id(0-7)>>> 1

SCSI_id(0-7)>>> 0

         SCSI HD_DSK_ERAS_UTIL

DKA100 OK ? Y
SCSI_user_terminat


  84 FAIL
>>>
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
It doesn't seem to matter what I put at the "DKA100 OK ?" prompt, the result
is always the same (I have tried "Y", "YES", "1", "0", and some other less
likely things).  Options 1, 2, and 4 from the SCSI util menu don't even get
that far.

I guess I could install/format the drives one by one in my VAXstation 3100/30,
but I'd rather not.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: huber@vxcrna.cern.ch (Sepp Huber, CERN -4439,-6712)
Subject: Re: Where is a user from??????
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:54:00 GMT

In article <16OCT199217263415@vxcrna.cern.ch>, huber@vxcrna.cern.ch (Sepp Huber, CERN -4439,-6712) writes...
>In article <19757.2adde135@ul.ie>, 9113797@ul.ie writes...
>>Does anyone know how I can tell  were  a user is logging in from
>>if he/she is telneting in from another country onto our vax .
>>On a UNIX (spit spit!) you can tell where they are from by using 'who'
>>eg.                                    
>>Guest      pub      Oct 15            (130.201.1.25)
>>                                            ^
>>                                            |
>>         From there ------------------------+
>>And I was wondering if anyone knows a way to do this on a Vax/Vms.
>> 
>Did You ever try 
>      SOW USERS/FULL user   ?
Carl S. Lydick just informed me: not all TCP/IP implementations provide
this information. 
UCX and Multinet do, WINTCP does not!
-
Joseph "Sepp" Huber        | At present in CERN, phone -4439/-6712
Max-Planck-Institut Physik | Internet: huber@vxcern.cern.ch
Munich, Germany            | HEPnet:   VXCERN::HUBER
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms