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From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Subject: Re: For your information..........
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:49:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.014224.21004@leland.Stanford.EDU> must@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mustafa Syed) writes:
>	The following is a book review of a new book by Alastair lamb
>	on Kashmir. Inform yourself!!


>The following statistics has been compiled by the Kashmir Center,
>London, UK.  Since January 1990:
>* 11,605 Kashmiri's have been killed.
>*    200 Elementary school children burnt alive on October 2nd, 1990.
>*    337 People tortured to death.
>*    198 People tied and drowned in river Jehlum.
>*  1,100 People killed while crossing cease-fire line.
>*  2,030 Children with broken limbs in orthopedic hospitals.
>*  7,690 People seriously injured.
>* 11,600 Youths in torture cells.
>*  4,560 Women molested.
>* 43,390 Men & women in prison without trial.
>* 29,000 People forced to live as refugees.
>* 13,797 Houses & shops burnt.
>*    490 Missionary schools banned.
> 
>The perpetrators of the above atrocities are supplied with arms and
>lethal weapons . . .

. . . by the terrorist training camps being run by, and in Pakistan.

. . . . so that Indian forces continue to kill more men, women
>and children in the Occupied Kashmir.

Yes, the terrorists and their Pakistani sponsors will keep facing
annihilation - until the futility of terroristic means dawns on them.


And one more point : In my view the person collecting the above statistics
must have been legally blind - and therefore, if US resident, eligible for
an extra tax deduction. I mean, how else can one explain the omission of
the following fact :

Pakistani sponsored terrorists have engaged in ethnic cleansing in Kashmir
and have evicted 250,000+ hindus from the Kashmir valley and have destroyed
more than 40 hindu temples. These evicted people are living as refugees 
in other parts of India. 

And Pakistanis had been hrboring terrorists from Egypt and Algeria also.
It should be a known fact to all that US was about to include Pakistan
in the list of terrorist-States, but has given a six months notice to 
Pakistan to prove that it is not indulging in international terrorism,
failing which it will be declared a terrorist state.


> 
>Source: IMPACT International
>        Nov. 8 - Dec. 12, 1991
>        And other sources
>
>--- end of original book review ---
>


---raj
From: zl02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ZHIHONG LI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for Yu(2) Yan(4) Qiang(2)
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:07:54 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


Yu, Yan Qiang was my classmate in the No.1 Middle School of Changsha, Hunan
Province. I was told that he came to the states in 1990 after graduating from
the Hua Nan Institute of Technology in Guang Zhou. But I know nothing more
than that. Anybody who knows where he is right now or anything about him,
please send an E-mail to my address : zl02@lehigh.edu.
My name is Li, Zhi Hong.
Thanks a lot.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:35:48 -0500 
From: Tieju Chen <tc2u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: some questions on FTP

I have some question on FTP for you folks out there.

1. I have tried to collect statistic data during a FTP session, such
   as how many bytes have been received/transerred, in how long, and
   at what speed. All these information will normally appear in the
   user screen when ftp was invoked interactively by the user. What
   I meant here is that user will type in all ftp commands and their
   arguments from the keyboard during the ftp session. However, when
   I tried to have the ftp took its commands and their arguments from
   a script file, all the above information disappear. Can someone
   tell me why.
2. After failed to collect these data from the standard output, I
   obtained a copy of the ftp source codes and modified the portion
   that I believed would output the information. I thought this will
   do the trick. Will, it  failed me again. Now, I seemed to me that
   whenever ftp takes a command and its arguments from a source rather
   than the standard input( keybobard ) interactively, all the above
   data will disappear. Can someone comments on this? It there some
   option that will trigger ftp not output those information?

3. Given the above situation, what options do I have to collect the
   data but I must take the ftp commands aand their arguments from
   a script file.

all your comments will be greatlly appreciated.

Tie Ju Chen

Bellcore Communications Research


ps. Wish you all have a happy Chinese New Year.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: CHINESE ROCKET SHROUD BREAKUP CAUSED LONG MARCH FAILURE
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:04:33 GMT

raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man) writes:

>Don't thank me, thank the Party which has trained you to be so smart.

Do you really think so?

>As for getting a job, with so many ex-Soviet KGB officials pouring out
>to find employment, I am not sure if it means a lot of money for people

I thought Americans didn't like KGB. Anyway, that is not my problem, coz'
I work hard and am willing to take any reasonable pay. Maybe Americans need to
find a way to avoid Chinese KGB to pour out, the number maybe 10 times more
than Soviet KGB's. The unemployment rate will be something.

>like you. Well, good luck with your master hunt.
				   employer hunt, who knows maybe employee hunt.
>-- 
>Just call me `Man'. 
>"And why take ye thought for "    --   Matt. 6:28
>raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: 100th birthday of Madam Sun
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:37:08 GMT

In article <108538@bu.edu> lix@crsa.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li) writes:
>In article <93Jan27.154627est.126@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu) writes:
><(deleted)
><also her other younger sister Ai Ling
>
>This tells us how much you really know about the Beauty-3.
><
><>not.  That probably will tell you something about her.
><>
><i believe someone said about Song sisters as:  
><"One loves money, One loves power, and one loves her country."  
><Short description but very much to the point.  
>
>That is merely propoganda. Madam Sun loves power? People love her because
>she never tried to grasp power.

huh????

did i say that?  
out of the 3 sisters, 1 loves money(married Kong3 Xiang2 Xi1 the 
finiance minister)
1 loves power(married  Jiang3 Jie4 Shi2 after it became clear the
general is top men in KMT and china and need to present himself
to the world he's different than the rest)

now Madam Sun was among not those two, was she?  

now what does Madam Sun loves?  

>-- 
>The SOS China Education Fund is a non-political, non-profit and independent
>organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
>are tax-deductable. Make checks or money orders payable to: "SOS China Education
>Fund"; c/o Jie KANG, 2610 E. 5th Pl, Apt. 1, Tulsa, OK74104, USA.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wxj7897@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Look for Mr. Wu Yun
Reply-To: wxj7897@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:22:20 GMT

Mr. Wu(2) Yun(2) and I both graduated from JingShan School, Beijing in 
1983, and we went to Beijing University together the same year. 
He studied at the Dept. of Phisics.  Mr. Wu came to Texas in 1988.  

If anyone happens to know him, please either forward my e-mail address
to him or let me know how I can contact him.

Any information is appreciated
Jiang(3) Wei(2) at: WXJ7897@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: lix@crsa.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Show Down
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:08:36 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Distribution: na
Organization: Boston University

In article <1k6e7uINN467@liverbug.hsc.usc.edu> jamesou@liverbug.hsc.usc.edu (James Ou) writes:
>(deleted)  On second thought, since Confucius put a "Hu1", which 
>means uncertainty, at the end of his first statement, I guess he himself
>wasn't sure about this statement either.  :-)

You are wrong:-( After "Hu1", Zilu said something, and Dr. Johnny said:
Ye Zai You! (James you are crazy!), and then he explained why zengmin is
so important by saying "Min bu Zeng, yan bu Shun". So he was very sure.
Hu1 there is not a question mark, but a "!"

Thanks for you donation and suggestion to SOS. I am NOT going to ask more:-)
-- 
The SOS China Education Fund is a non-political, non-profit and independent
organization to raise money promoting the education in rural China. All donations
are tax-deductable. Make checks or money orders payable to: "SOS China Education
Fund"; c/o Jie KANG, 2610 E. 5th Pl, Apt. 1, Tulsa, OK74104, USA.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zhang@hekla.pnge.psu.edu (Zhang Jie)
Subject: test
Organization: PSU Earth and Mineral Sciences
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:20:45 GMT

test
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Show Down
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:06:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.142848.20587@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tom Li) writes:
>
>In article <1k22e9INNnvs@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu>, bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes...
>>In article <1993Jan24.225818.17236@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tom Li) writes:
>>>
>>>In article <2B631096.7833@news.service.uci.edu>, ygu@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Yifan Gu) writes...
>>>>In article <1jqjnkINNd98@shelley.u.washington.edu>
>>>>chchen@u.washington.edu writes:
>>>>>
>>>>to help ?), a compromise was reached. The dancers agreed
>>>>to stand ouside of the hall until the audienaces finished singing.  ...  "
>>>
>>>If those mainland dancers did become part of singing, wow, the Taiwan media
>>>certinly will not miss the photo opportunity. Several years ago, Taiwan's 
>>>delegation to the annual Asia Bank meeting which was held in Beijing,
>>>Taiwan's delegates rose and listened the PRC natioanl anthem for "politeness".
>>>And next day this "historical moment" :-) became a major news in China.
>>  
>>   That's just your imagination, No one will make such thing as a big
>>news, not like Taiwanese, likes to do do such trickies, ask your
>>mainland friend, who have ever heared this "big news".
>
>I remember WJ mentioned TV and newspapers in China reported this news too.
>Whether it is a "big" one, I dont know, I think I was in a funny mood, so
>here is my apologies for the word "major".
>
>To me, the disputes on national anthem and flag is silly.
Mainland  part is more consolitary with this kind of face game. When ever 
address anything with regard to Taiwan. Mainland radio uses Mainland only to
address it self.  While Taiwan Radio tediously repeats "ROC"(Zhong Hua Min Guo).
From: civeyy@rosie.uh.edu (Li, Yi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: looking for Mr. Miao, buquan in Canada
Date: 25 Jan 1993 12:55 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

 It would be greatly appreciated if anyone can send the address, and phone #
 of Mr. Miao, buquan to me. He is in a Canada University as a facuty member.
 My home phone number is (713)-748-8819.
 Thank you in advance.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:35129 soc.culture.taiwan:17473
From: ygu@balboa.eng.uci.edu (Yifan Gu)
Subject: Re: Show Down
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 24 Jan 93 21:56:38 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1jqjnkINNd98@shelley.u.washington.edu>
chchen@u.washington.edu writes:
>
>Just before the show was going to start, as a rule we all know,
>the national anthem must be sung. However, the mainland dancers insisted
>that there should be no singing of that "national anthem". (I 
>do not know how the mainland dancers know that  song is the 
>forbidden song in their mind; they must have listened to it before
>coming to Taiwan so that they knew the song and are able
>to prevent from being stealthily  sung by the Taiwanese.)
>The way they worked it out is this: the mainland dancers all retreated
>outside the performing hall while 2000 Taiwanese sang their national
>anthem loudly (maybe) inside the hall.  
>

Again, this is the original line:

"...... But even then, as the final touches of makeup were being 
applied and the last costume straightened, a last minute dispute 
meant the performance was almost cancelled. An emergency meeting 
was called and, once again, the two sides sat down to negotiate.
According to local custom, audiences are supposed to rise and 
sing the Taiwanese Anthem before a preformance begins. The chinese 
dancers, however, refused to have it played. As the curtain called
an ******* ( likely a French word sounded like 'juveneer' and probably 
means transition , that I can not figure out. Any one out there 
to help ?), a compromise was reached. The dancers agreed
to stand ouside of the hall until the audienaces finished singing.  ...  "
From: raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: CHINA EXPLOITING U.S. PATRIOT SECRETS
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:03:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: arizona.1993Jan26.110358.4288
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson
Originator: raymond@jupiter

CHINA EXPLOITING U.S. PATRIOT SECRETS
David A. Fulghum/Washington, Aviation week & Space Technology, Jan. 18, 1993

China is using secretly acquired Patriot air defense missile technolgy to
both upgrade cheaper, less effective Soviet-designed surface-to-air
defense weapons and to develop ballistic missle reentry vehicle that can
evade U.S. defensive systems, according to U.S. government analysts.
[Approximately 30 column-inches article follows, full details in AW&ST, p.20]

-- 
Just call me `Man'. 
"And why take ye thought for "    --   Matt. 6:28
raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
From: yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Daniel Yuen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Dr. Robert Graham and the "super babies"
Date: 28 Jan 93 06:56:50 GMT
Organization: BHP Steel, Sheet & Coil, Research & Technology Centre

achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (neptune) writes:

>I was watching T.V. and saw a small segment which talked
>about a particular genetics professor, Dr. Robert Graham
>who collects sperm from Nobel prize winners and other
>Geniuses and allows women who want super babies to use
>the sperms he collected.
> ....
>I wonder if China has a similiar program set up to create
>super babies?  I think this is very important in the 
>long term strategic sense for a country's future.  Because
>if you look at history you will see that just a handful
>of geniuses can drive and change the course of an entire
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>nation's history.

  ...... for better or for worse ??

>Just think about it.  Why do you think Europe had managed to
>master technology whereas all of the other civilizations had
>not until very recently?  I think it had a lot to do with
>the few geniuses of Europe such as Pascal, Newton, Liebnetz, etc.
>just to name a few.

The persons quoted all excelled in the scientific/technical areas.
What about some geniuses in the humanity area? Famous painters?
Musicians?

>I know that China has a lot of very smart people.  But I wonder
>if China has ever produced any spectacular geniuses comparable
>to the geniuses of Europe?  My guess is no.

I believe both nature and nurture are needed to produce a genius.
Maybe the fact that Europe was/is so successful is because of the
in-built culture and environment which enable geniuses to flourish.

Selective reproduction is a touchy subject.  As far as I know, it is
very much encouraged and practised in Singapore.  The advocates may have
their points.  But I sincerely hope that this (selective reproduction)
does not contribute to the "all-people-are-equal-but-some-are-more-so-
than-the-others" philosophy.

--
Cheers.
Daniel Yuen (yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:51:41 CST
From: Phil <U53601@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Ma3, Jun4 in Houston, TX (?)

To folks in Houston, TX area:

I'm looking for a guy recently arrived from Shanghai, PRC.
His name: Ma3 (horse :-)), Jun4 (strong horse :-)))
He graduated from Shanghai Jiaotong University (SJTU) in 1990 (?), then
went to ShenZhen.

He is said to be in Houston area.

If you happen to know him, please tell him of me or drop me a line.
Your help is highly appreciated.

Lei Shi at
The University of Illinois at Chicago.
Tel: (312)243-0935 (h)
Internet: U53601@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mrynders@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Maurice Rynders)
Subject: Re: Stamps
Keywords: stamps
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:00:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan13.195332.13681@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> zliu@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Zhong Liu) writes:
>
>This reminds me that the China Post should learn something from the recently
>issued Elvis stamp here in the States. In my mind, Mao's stamp may not be
>a bad idea. What do you think?  What's in your mind?
>
>Z. Liu
>
>
Compare Elvis to the leader of a country? HA! That's a big joke. The
Elvis stamp is a big joke and an obvious proof that the US is rapidly
developing a new national religion, with many gods. The religion is
called "Celebrity Hysteria" And the godws are rock-singers, actors and
sports figures. 
I hope that China will be wiser.

MCR 1/23/93

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: 100th birthday of Madam Sun
Date: 27 Jan 1993 21:38:55 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

In article <lmeebdINN1j8@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.200226.4803@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>  (Gang Wang) writes:
>>Yuanhui Liu (liuyh@vis.toronto.edu) wrote:
>
....

>I bet she didn't, until the time that the RED GUARDS started to bother
>her house, her belongs, she regreted a lot and began to know something
>of the CCP real face. She should regret that she devoted herself to
>that party for most of her life, but the party had no room for her.
>
Me again. She started to regret long before that. But what else could
she do. I don't think she was that stupid.   
>If not Chow, her house was a target to be destroyed/destructed.
>Chow was almost a "wet mud made buddha".
>
Not only Chow, also Mao. According to rumor, when she wanted to get the
second marriage, she got Mao's blessing.

Tingli Pan   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
From: pjoseph@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Paul Joseph)
Subject: Re: L.S.U. Professor says Indians Suck !!
Organization: SDSU Computing Services
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:19:17 GMT


  Hey now wait just a minute. What about freedom, oppurtunity and
  capitalistic ideals - what we graduate students are doing is 
  nothing compared to what the settlers did to the native Americans
  - the Indians. 
  Dont they say - what goes around comes around - well
  the Indians are back - the brown cowboy, blazes new trails, can add,
  substract and ... faster than the eye. Bang, bang. Low hanging smith &   
  wesson is ready for any LSU prof. Hang out a Wanted note for this idiot

 Paul
From: xu@prim.rose.utoronto.ca (Jiefeng Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: problems on installing chinese fonts in X11R5
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:13:33 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto, Department of Industrial Engineering

Happy New Year! I found some problems when I tried to install fonts. Here is what I got:


xu>cd xfonts
xu>zcat cclib16st.bdf.Z | bdftopcf -t > cclib16st.pcf
cclib16st.pcf: File exists.
xu>rm *.pcf
xu>zcat cclib16st.bdf.Z | bdftopcf -t > cclib16st.pcf
xu>mkfontdir .
xu>xset fp+ .;
X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
  Value in failed request:  0x3
  Serial number of failed request:  4
  Current serial number in output stream:  6
xu>xset q
Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  0    LED mask:  00000000
  auto repeating keys:  0000000000000000
                        0000000000000000
                        0000000000000000
                        0000000000000000
  bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  800    bell duration:  100
Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  3/1    threshold:  1
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  600    cycle:  600
Colors:
  default colormap:  0x27    BlackPixel:  1    WhitePixel:  0
Font Path:
  built-ins,/usr/lib/X11/ncd/fonts/misc/,/usr/lib/X11/ncd/fonts/100dpi/
Bug Mode: compatibility mode is enabled

How to solve the problem? I am using X11R5 on sun sparc workstation.
Thank you very much for your help.
From: raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: CHINESE ROCKET SHROUD BREAKUP CAUSED LONG MARCH FAILURE
Date: 27 Jan 93 05:37:55 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

In <C1HGL5.F9A@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) follows
up to yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)'s article <2563@blue.cis.pitt.edu>:

>In article <2563@blue.cis.pitt.edu> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan26.110215.4287@arizona.edu> raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man) writes:
>>From what I read from QiaoBao, it said some thing like: "A small
>>explosion mysteriously occured on the satelite which is sitted on top
>>(head area) of the rocket.  Usually a rocket may fail completely but Long 
>>March is strong enough to finish its normal course...".
>Could it be implemented in the Sattelite? by who?
>Competitors have good reason to derail Chinese space program, because of 100%
>success rate and 2/3 of other competitors' price.
>After I watched a TV program on Sister Seven(Seven world biggest oil
>companies) was suspected to kill teh Italian Oil minister who advocated and
>persued national ownership and management of Italian's gas expportation, in
>defiance of Sister Seven's dismay.
>Same  business should be considered for Chinese super computer, which is only
>1/10 of market price. Who would be wait to be driven out of market?

As Chunde Shi did not actually quote anything from my article,
to avoid confusion, he should simply not mention my article,
<1993Jan26.110215.4287@arizona.edu>, which in any case was an exact, but
unauthorized, copy from the Aviation week & Space Technology and contains
nothing written by me on the subject.

Now, something by me ON the subject: For those who just love conspiracy
theory, of course, a delibrate failure could be implemented. The AW&ST
article mentioned a "small modification" which can easily tie in with
the "inadvertent technology transfer" in the lucrative satellite business,
since similar transfer is possibly happening with SAM technology. As the
technicians closing the satellite shroud had the last access, the question
of who can quite easily be answered that way. Of course that would mean
blowing the "100% success rate", but that may be a small price if only
the competitors could be beaten with low cost satellites from free
technology and cheap labour. Hughes may have been outsmarted this time.

Nah, this is just too much even for alt.conspiracy netters to swallow. :-)

-- 
Just call me `Man'. 
"And why take ye thought for "    --   Matt. 6:28
raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu