HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Toys 'r' Us
Keywords: Whee!
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:30:32 GMT
Organization: Xiola Blue

r l reid writes:

>Anything metal.  Especially if it's cold.  The edge of a cold Coke
>can, properly applied. Any chrome plated kitchen appliance.

And to think that poor Clarence took the hear for this.
-- 
a flying squirrel is: richard@apple.com  Apple Computer Inc.

i'm your girl            friend
i'm your squirrel        friend
i'm your round the world friend

cruising: vidi, vici, veni.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Organization: Thinkage Ltd.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:25:08 GMT

In article <lcp1ljINN56k@spim.mti.sgi.com> dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.164655.15688@reed.edu>, nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>Gee, I have had days like this too... Usually, the bearded men are naked
>as well, but that is just a detail...
>
>|> I notice men with beards more often than men without.
>
>|> I'm noticing a trend here. What ever will I do? :-)
>
>You will begin be unbuttoning the top button of his flannel shirt.

my flannel t-shirt doesnt have buttons... :-)

   -ken
-- 
   - Ken Dykes, Thinkage Ltd., Kitchener, Ontario, Canada    [43.47N 80.52W]
         postmaster@thinkage.on.ca  kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca  thinkage!kgdykes
         kgdykes@math.uwaterloo.ca  [129.97.128.1]      kgdykes@thinkage.com
From: gum@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Arnold Gum)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:56:23 GMT
Subject: Re: InterOp Fall 92!  motss get-together?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.motss



Hope to see you there!

Arnold
(arnold@hpcndaw.cnd.hp.com)
From: balistik@big-brother.nevada.edu (Shawn Hicks)
Subject: Re: CABAL stuff
Organization: Not yet, but we're working on it...
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:57:59 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.191936.26868@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.150043.9025@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:
>
>>MOTSS CABAL, NO MORE CHINESE FOOD DIVISION
>
>
>Ro,
>
>I knew you were a *PERVERT*, but I had no idea you were so depraved.
>Unless you meant you wanted to have Thai instead.
>
>
>Ry 
>ry@usl.com


Andeyo Atashi!  KOREAN!  I can smell the Kimchi now... Winter
Kimchi is so much hotter, and the garlic! Ah, the senses tingle
with anticipation. 


Shawn
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Origins of Idioms for Homosexuals
Date: 30 Sep 1992 19:42:44 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <m0maFGt-000133C@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> 
rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
| > Faggot:
|
| Hmmm.  Donald's response is on a similar track, but not quite the
| understanding I have been lead to believe.  Here is what I've been
| told as the origin of the slanderous term "Faggot." [...]

What is *slanderous* about the term "faggot"?  

| The term was imposed on homosexuals as a slanderous reference to the
| concentration camps of Hitler where homosexuals were routinely burned
| alive.  

You can't be serious.  First of all, homosexuals were *not*
routinely burned alive in the concentration camps.  They were
worked to death, subjected to "medical" experiments, beaten to
death, etc., but there were not regular autos-da-fe.  But are
we to understand that *Americans* started using the term "faggot"
only after WWII, and then only in reference to the alleged
burning to death of homosexuals in the camps?

| To call someone a faggot is to imply they should be killed for
| being a faggot.  

Nonsense.

| This term should have the same disdain as for a black
| being called a "nigger" or other similar terms.

Well, I'm not offended to be called a faggot.  In fact, I prefer it
to being called "queer" or "homosexual".  In any case, "faggot" was
a term of abuse or contempt for a woman (the OED has three citations
for the word with that meaning: 1591, 1840, and 1862).  Don't forget
that "gay" once meant "(female) prostitute".

| I understood that the "pink" and "black" triangles also had their roots
| from this same time.  But I don't quite understand what a "triangle" had
| as a negative connotation.  Is it suppose to be an inferrence to a "third"
| sex?

The triangles were employed in the camps to identify the prisoners
by type: yellow for Jews, pink for homosexuals, red for communists
and anarchists, black for habitual criminals, etc.

Arne

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: buckmr@vccsouth24.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: WILSON *VETOES* Comprehensive Civil Rights Bill AB3825
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:45:04 GMT

asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal) writes:

>In article <dbhz4fl@rpi.edu> buckmr@vccnw02.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>>There WAS a Civil Rights Restoration Act of 1992 that WAS a full civil rights
>>bill for Queers [as well as disabled, women, race, religion, etc] and Wilson
>>vetoed it today...

>Very clever, that Wilson.  He signs the bill that codifies into law the
>existing non-discrimination policy in employment, and vetos the bill that
>would actually extend any new rights.  Toss us some more crumbs, Pete
>darling, we're lapping them up...

Exactly! His own labor commissioner was already accepting complaints of
discrimination due to sexual orientation after last year's veto message.

What I am unsure of, is whether discrimiation on the basis of sexual orientation
in 

EDUCATION
PUBLIC ACCOMODATIONS
CREDIT
UNOIN PRACTICES
HOUSING

is illegal in California. Anyone know?
-- 
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ***Clinton-Gore 92!***
uunet!rpi.edu!buckmr||buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet||buckmr@rpi.edu||+1 518 276 8910
"I don't think 'so called' dirty books inspire anyone to commit any crime
more serious than masturbation" -- William Burroughs, author of _Naked Lunch_
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Subject: Re: Jake
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 19:25:45 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson):
> Dave and I were watching the video of _Paris is Burning_
> (he had never seen it) and one of the people interviewed
> is this CUTE kid, probably around 16 or 17, and both of
> us at the same time said "It's JAKE!".  They both have
> this smile that makes you want to laugh with joy and a 
> similar way of talking and using their faces.

(*grin*)
-- 
Queer Without A Cause!
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler)
Subject: Re: Questions?
Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:53:45 GMT

In article <Buyw17.KJA@acsu.buffalo.edu> ievins@acsu.buffalo.edu (lydia) writes:
>
>i'll pretend this gives me an excuse to ask here...
>
>can anyone tell me about the legendary 'guide to the
>internet' that some publisher is selling for an exorbitant
>fee, but that's also available for free via ftp?
>i just got an ad for one of these, and i want to see
>whether they are indeed the same book. if so, i can 
>tell people to save their money. 
>
lydia, 

Here's an explanation from one of our editors here at O'Reilly & Associates:

------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'm not sure exactly what guide you're referring to.  There are two
important ones that might qualify:

"The Whole Internet User's Guide and Catalog," by Ed Krol (O'Reilly
and Associates, roughly 400 pages, $24.95).  This is related to two
"electronic texts."  Ed wrote the original "The Hitchhiker's Guide to
the Internet" (RFC 1118).  However, this is a completely new book--it
doesn't resemble the original "Hitchhiker's Guide" at all, it's MUCH
larger, and it's oriented towards garden-variety users, rather than
administrators.

O'Reilly and Associates *will* be making the "Resource Catalog"
portion of this book available through the Internet for free.  That's
approximately 15% of the book; it's a list of important resources (FTP
sites, etc.) that are available.  It isn't available yet, and we
haven't quite decided how to make it available; i.e., should we use
the catalog to generate a set of gopher directories?  create a
hypertext for the World Wide Web?  just put an ascii version onto an
FTP server?  The answer is "at least one of the above, maybe all
of the above, and maybe even some distribution means that we haven't
thought of, but we haven't decided yet."  Stay tuned...  A forthcoming
RFC will be based on Chapter 2 of our book ("What Is the Internet?").

The other text you could be referring to (and which I think you are
referring to) is "Zen and the Art of the Internet" (second edition) by
Brendan Kehoe (Prentice-Hall, roughly 120 pages, $23.00).  The first
edition of Kehoe's book was available via anonymous FTP (from several
sites, including ftp.cs.widener.edu).  I believe that it is still
available, though I haven't checked in the past couple of months.  The
second (Prentice-Hall) edition is available *only* in book form; i.e.,
it won't be posted distributed via FTP.  I don't know how much the
second edition differs from the first.

Since I edited Ed Krol's book (ORA), I won't attempt to compare the
two; I'm obviously biased.  If you want more information about exactly
what our book covers, though, I'd be glad to provide it.

Mike Loukides
Editor, O'Reilly and Associates
mikel@ora.com
-------


-- 
        Ellie Cutler

        ellie@ora.com               
        uunet!ora!ellie
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 20:01:14 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Oct1.173452.7552@spdcc.com>

Bob Donahue writes:
>How come things that are SO *incredible to die for the ultimate
>in sexy trendy I would kill to wear something like that* look so
>pathetically awful later on?  The clothing doesn't change... but there
>are lots of things that people ran out to be seen in that they wouldn't
>be caught DEAD in now.

As I've said for some time: in my opinion, fashion is a vast 
waste of time and money.  If you have plenty of both to squander
and nothing better to do with your life, be my guest, but don't
pester *ME* with this drivel.  ["You" in the universal mode, not
referring to BBC.]

I happen to be comfortable in 501's and t-shirts/flannel shirts/
chambray shirts; I have friends who have other tastes in
clothing, but share my basic opinion of the pursuit of the
"fashion" chimera.

 
() Fashions in sin change.
()      -- Lillian Hellman
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Toys 'r' Us
Keywords: Whee!  Yumm!
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:09:38 GMT
Organization: Militant Homosexual Lobby, Gay Lifestyles, Inc.


John Dorrance (thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu), who
really needs to be more *vigilant* about picking
up his toys, wrote, among other things:
 
> Do you have a favorite sex toy?

A rabbit pelt.

[For times when a warm bear 
 isn't handy.]

The leather glove isn't bad, either.

--jns  [in a terse mood]
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: gay science fiction
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:20:19 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Menagerie - Housecat Division

In article <1992Oct2.133206.68825@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> dh0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DONALD L. HARDY) writes:
>Storm Constantine has a series out.  "Enchantments of the Spirit" or
>something like that.  Through a bizarre mutation human males become
>hermaphroditic, but maintain their male identities (by choice rather than
>necessity).  They couple, bear children, all sorts of stuff.  Boys kissing
>boys in a post-apocalyptic world.  Not too bad.


Sounds like a copy of Ursula K. LeGuin's "The Left Hand of Darkness",
where bisexual people go into a cycle called kemmering and take on the
attributes of one gender or another. The king, as I recall, was unhappy
because he never mothered a child even though he had fathered many.

ER
--

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I just couldn't take the green brain carpet, so I had to kill it."
					-R. Hep
From: serranrj@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (Robert J. Serrano)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Faggots
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:11:56 GMT
Reply-To: serranrj@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology

In article <15731@umd5.umd.edu>, jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer) writes:
>
>Robert J Serrano (serranrj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu),
>exiled in Terre Haute without a Harley, worrying already 
>about dentures [why worry?] at his tender, tender age, wrote: 
>> My life, 'tis a wonder I'm still 
>> sane after all these years.
>
>Egads!  You're not old enough to go to the
>gay bar yet, and you worry about your sanity?

Have you ever _been_ to Terre Haute.  Acres and acres of fat chicks on Harleys
and guys with beer-guts and teenyboppers who have yet to discover that cars are
for driving.  No good-looking guys within miles, who aren't straight or taken
(sometimes both).  The town's gay bar was vandalized, which is amazing
considering many of the town's gay people can't even _find_ the danged thing.

Rob
From: waal@cwi.nl (Peter de Waal)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Madonna offers haven to Diana
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:12:09 GMT

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>>There are nine women with more money than old Liz?  Who?

>I believe the Dutch royal family could buy up the English
>one about five times.

They are quite wealthy, but I'm not sure they are THAT wealthy.  They
own quite some real estate and a considerable number of the Shell Oil
Company shares (I think at least 10%, but that may be more: the
complete picture of Queen B.'s financial situation is not known to the
public).  Despite of this wealth the Dutch crown prince applied for
governmental financial support when he went to college. Every citizen
is entitled to receive this financial assistance, but hey, the little
brat already gets 1000000 Hfl (+-600000 US$) a year for, well, getting
tickets for speeding his BMW, failing exams and doing nothing.

--- Peter de Waal, CWI, Amsterdam --- 
---   "Number one -- the larch"   ---
From: tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Donahue, Monday 9/28
Keywords: same-sex marriages
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:00:05 GMT
Organization: Tandon Corporation, Moorpark, CA

Saw it... YOU TWO WERE GREAT!!!!

I do love to see stupid homophobes make a bigger a** of
themselves than they already are... especially in front of
millions of people.  Phil obviously was on our "side" and
conducted everything pretty darned good... although he seemed
to go off on a few tangents during the first few minutes, but
he quickly got down to business.

And, it was such a wonderful and affirming action to share the
scenes from your wedding with us... Thanks again!


-- 
Tom Barrett (TDBear)    tdbear@tandon.com          voice: 805-378-6207
Tandon Corporation      609 Science Drive          Moorpark, CA  93021 
Sr. HW Design Engineer  "War is Peace, No is Yes, And We're All Free!" 
-=>NOTE:  The feed to tdbear@tandon.com may be interrupted in Sept.<=-
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: justin@mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Subject: Re: Kentucky Sodomy Law Repealed??
    <1992Sep25.142546.10199@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 08:48:19 GMT

In <1992Sep25.142546.10199@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne) writes:

>In article <1686D3938.PKJAMES@UKCC.UKY.EDU> PKJAMES@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:

>Sodomy laws are vicious in that they discriminate on a legal basis for
>something that should be private.  Even though they have historically not
>been enforced, there is, regardless a viciousness that is pervasive.

Nonsense. PRIVACY? In THIS country? hehehehehe.. Yeahrightsure. 
   The very fact that things like the National Security Agency exist should
be enough to demonstrate what our government thinks of the privacy of its
citizens. People don't want privacy. They want it Their Way(TM), which is 
the only way the Good Lord would have it.. <good lord! :) >
   Some of my neighbors actually argue that "if people can't afford to live
behind a nice brick/stone wall with a guardhouse or secure gate, they don't
DESERVE privacy!" These same neighbors could also argue that if it weren't
for us rich people, everyone else would not have any incentive or motivation
to work, and everyone would be lazy welfare leeches. 
   It's frequently frightful to see how people think. I think: "My god! Think
of how bad this country would be if these people were in charge!" Oops!
Silly me.. *THEY ARE IN CHARGE!*
   As a side note, some people argue that not all politicians are wealthy,
little realizing that just being a member of Congress automatically makes
one an upperclass American (just the salary, mind you.. 'gifts' optional :)
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Heterosexuals (was Re: Faggots)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 20:04:18 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep26.192823.13801@microsoft.com>
  <1992Sep28.043517.11328@news.Hawaii.Edu> <15746@umd5.umd.edu>

J. N. Shaumeyer writes:
>John Flanagan (johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu) wrote:
>> You mean straight women _want_ their men to look like that?  I
>> assumed they were just settling for what they could get. 
>
>Don't be absurd, of course that's what they want.
>It's all part of the plan to keep their men from
>running away with other *men*, which everyone
>knows they would otherwise do at the drop of 
>a hat. 


This must be the explanation (at least partly) for the phenomenon
of the Gorgeous Blue-Collar Bear who is attached to a woman who
is distinctly on the plain side.  Somebear should *talk* to these
poor hunky souls and let them in on the fact that (1) they are
*not* the ugly brutes they've been told they are, and (2) in fact
there are *hordes* of gay Bear-Lovers waiting to jump their furry
bones.

;-{)##]
 
() >And remember, SOC.MOTSS does not carry any of those
() >"900-HOT HUNK" types of advertising to cover expenses!
() 
() It must be the bear codes then.
()      -- Rob Boldbear
-----
[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Sir Justin the Clueless
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 07:01:11 GMT

glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:


>In article <BvBt37.IoJ@unix.amherst.edu>, twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>|> In article <1992Sep28.134629.13260@fig.citib.com> glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
>|> 
>|> >I have the email from people
>|> >who think like me but are kept from posting by the cabal.
>|> 
>|> There is _no_ email.

>But there is!  I just got mail telling me that they'd
>pumped 20,000 gallons of rancid sperm out of....

>I shouldn't, it was *private* email.

Damn right! Shut your piehole.

Mzz. America

--
John Dorrance * Alleged Homosexual/Shameless Hussy * thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu

			Dark. Handsome. 6 feet tall.
		  31 flavors? I believe he's got 'em all!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Organization: insert anything here
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:45:08 GMT

coren@osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:
>rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>> cbe@unlinfo.unl.edu (cbe) writes:
>> >but with mate?

>> 	Um, yeah, not that it really matters.  You're just adding
>> another externalized "test" (well, he might talk a great game but if he
>> can't land the bohunk of his dreams, he's a failure of course).

>Hmm... that's not how I read this. It was a response to a list of your
>possibly-"attractive" characteristics; I thought the question was
>directed at finding out if you were available, with an implication of
>disappointment if you weren't. Of course, maybe that's colored by *my*
>prejudices; I should probably let cbe speak for himself.

>Anyway, Bob, dear, sometimes that chip gets a *little* heavy for your
>shoulder, don't you think?

	That's not a chip!  :-)  That's dandruff!  [brush, brush]
There!  All gone!  

	Thanks for the other interpretation.  Getting carried away
is of course not one of my strong points - though getting [bodily]
carried away could be exciting... or not... :-)

Hugz, BBC


Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver)
Subject: Re: Faggots
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:19:57 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.


(me)
>If a vegetarian said that they have a strong physical reaction to the 
>thought of eating meat, does that necessarily mean that they are passing 
>judgement on the habits of the meat-eater?  


(markm)
/It depends on *where* said vegetarian expressed their opinion, doesn't
/it, Bob?  If said vegetarian posted a "meat eaters makes me hurl"

Your parallel is already off-track.  What Justin said was the equivalent
of "eating MEAT makes me hurl".  He separated the action from the person.
He further requested to know what it was about vegetarians that made them
think that only by eating meat could they be satisfied.   A perfectly
natural question.



/(markm, hoping that some screenwriter is reading)
/Run, don't walk, but run to the nearest bank and apply for a loan.
/Tell them that you want the money to buy a clue.  After speaking with
/you for a few moments, I am sure the loan will be no interest.  

You're probably right, especially when I explain to them that I am going
to donate the clue to one markm.


/(markm)
/Lord knows that your posts are.

But *just* interesting enough to keep your sorry life titillated, as evidenced
by your continued responses to them.