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From: lchavas@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU (Linda Catherine Havas)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Flame Wars
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:45:02 GMT

So....when does the fun start? With all due respect, it seems that
this newsgroup has been pretty damned boring lately. I can't read
any more "does anyone know the email address of...." posts.

Newsgroups: soc.college
From: jlee@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Lee)
Subject: I need FAQ college emailing list...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 00:27:52 GMT


If you have or know how to get it, please email me at:

      jlee@anat3d2.anatomy.upenn.edu
From: gt1762c@prism.gatech.EDU (Cooper D. Yang)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Univ. of Florida...when is "GatorGrowl"?
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:18:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Does anyone know when this year's Gator Growl is?
Can someone please write me with details?
(ie. feature act, etc...)

p.s. can someone please look-up a friend for me
	and write back with info?
	Her name is Jennifer Watson.
	Another is Ben Yang (my brother)

Thanks in advance-
Cooper

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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: sfadden@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (Steve Fadden)
Subject: Re: SURVEY: Intervisitation Policy at YOUR school?
Summary:  Just some questions...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  As if anyone reads them...
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:11:00 GMT

In article <".4-Oct-92.15:08:29.EDT".*.James_S._Bright.wbst129@Xerox.com>, 
JBright.Wbst129@xerox.com writes...

>Well, I'd like to introduce my school -- Virginia Tech, whose board of
>directors are super-conservative. Okay, the deal is that on the weeknights (in
>most Halls) you can have someone over until 2:00 in the morning. After that,

(etc. etc.)

>Stanford is private (correct, no?) while New Mexico State University (original
>poster's school) and Va Tech are not. That usually has something to do with it
>too.

What exactly do you mean by a school's being private/public having "something to
do with it" -- are you implying that some schools have more/less strict 
visitation policies, based on their funding?

If so, I'd like to disagree, to a point.  Private schools are influenced by 
their main contributors, and by the wishes of those individuals who have since
passed away, but left explicit "rules" embedded in their granted monies. 

Public schools are funded primarily with public funds, and would thus be 
governed accordingly.  

At least, this is my impression; am I off-track?

- Steve

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: University of Massachusetts, Amherst                              Psychology :
Newsgroups: soc.college,sci.econ,misc.legal
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Citecheck Hell)
Subject: Re: the MIT anti-trust case
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 07:47:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.011710.4161@news.yale.edu> (J Klein) writes:
>What you name a self-serving claim, others would label an argument.  You
>still have to respond to it.

I've 

(1) posted the district court's refutation of the claim (that overlap
    was the only thing that saved need-based aid)
(2) pointed out that it's to the Overlap group's advantage to continue
    to claim that they weren't breaking the law, and they're not going
    to ever admit that they were wrong, whether or not they were, so
    that the financial aid office of one Overlap member is predicting
    doomsday means nothing, 
(3) pointed out that many non-overlap members successfully combine
    need-based aid with merit-based aid without engaging in price-fixing 
(4) pointed out that a lot of Overlap aid was random and had nothing to
    do with the actual need of an individual student, because whenever
    two Overlap members disagreed about the size of the parental
    contribution, they resolved the issue through compromises in a 
    couple of minutes, rather than actually calculating what was
    reasonable in the individual situation
(5) pointed out that much of the financial aid was faux in that it
    merely brought the monopoly price down closer to a reasonable level
(6) pointed out that the marginal revenues from the poorest of students
    exceeds the marginal costs of providing an education for that student,
    so that financial aid is not a burden on the university, because it
    is money that it is, for the most part, paying itself
(7) posted and re-posted the cite to a Law Review Comment that adequately
    addresses every point that's been raised in this thread (59 U Chi L
    Rev 807 (1992)).

I'm sorry that you don't consider any of these adequate responses.

<repeated requests to address this argument deleted>
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From: tarra@skat.usc.edu (Tom)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: SURVEY:  Intervisitation Policy at YOUR school?
Date: 5 Oct 1992 12:38:11 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct4.045747.7306@nmsu.edu> mwolinsk@nmsu.edu writes:
>Okay, I've received several replies to my question of what your school  
>intervisitation policy was.  But I've also received many questions asking me  
>what an intervisitation is.  So let me clarify.
>
>Intervisitation basically states "visit" hours.  For instance (I'm a male), so  
>I can have a female in my room from 8a.m. till Midnight Sun-Thurs and from  
>8a.m. till 3a.m. Fri-Sat.
>
>Again, thanks for all of your help.  (Reply via E-Mail please)
>--
>|| Skifer         Mark Wolinski || "When in doubt, go for the dick joke."  ||

At SC the rules about visitation are different depending on whether or not 
you are in the Greek system.  In Dorms and all University housing the rule is
that to have a guest overnight one is supposed to fill out an overnight guest
form, but I don't think that one has ever been used, but if you are in a Frat 
or Sorrority, then you don't have the same rights.  At SC if a woman has been
drinking she is not even allowed in a male's room.  The University states that
they have the right to check any room they want at any time they want in a Frat
because it is a University recognized organization, and this is a private 
University.  Parties are also not allowed on week nights here if you are a 
member of a fraternity.  And on weekends the parties have to be shut down by
Midnight.  I'm not saying that we follow the rules, and that we don't bring 
women into our rooms here, but they are stated, as unconstitutionally as it
sounds, and the University claims that it has the right to conduct a search
of anyone's room in SC housing at any time again simply because this is a 
private University.  Does anyone have similar policies at their schools?


College, the hardest five years of your life.


Later,
Tom

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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Subject: Re: Literary Societies
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad 
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:23:27 GMT

wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells) writes:

>I'd like to know if there are members of traditional literary (some
>literature, some debate, or some publishing) out there. Although I am

No...post this, rather than mailing.  I would like to know the extent
of their activities across this fine land.  There are no such societies
at Clemson (imagine that!), but not too far away, at Erskine College
in Due West, SC, two Literary Societies exist in place of fraternal
organizations.  These are the Philomathean Society and the Euphemian
Society, and they sponsor much of what goes on at Erskine in the way
of Official Fun.  They don't bash each other, and more often than not,
they are engaged in some cooperative activity (cookouts, debates, etc.)
Euphemian Hall and Philomathean Hall there are the two oldest buildings
on campus, and they are incredibly beautiful, situated in their glory
on a green, standing tall and perfect architecturally.  I was looking
into going to school there, and I was very impressed with its size
(about 500-600 students), the fact that the head of admissions seemed
to know all the students personally, and the traditional nature of the
educational system in place there (including the Literary Societies).
So don't feel as if you need to use e-mail (unless you prefer it, of
course) because I would like to know more about these societies.
 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: morinjp@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Jason Morin)
Subject: I need a place to login around Albany!!! :)
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:36:04 GMT

Hi, I was wondering if anybody from the Albany area colleges knew if it
would be possible to get a "guest" account somewhere...Or how easy it is
to just get one by pretending to be a student.  

Any ideas?   Any help would be appreciated, NY Telephone is starting to 
really like me.  :(  

Thanks,   Dan
From: James_S._Bright.wbst129@XEROX.COM
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: SURVEY: Intervisitation Policy at YOUR school?
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:34:59 GMT
Reply-To: JBright.Wbst129@xerox.com


PS - I was dying when I read about everyone who had co-ed bathrooms (in
response to TV show Freshman Dorm). As much as I like my school, it's waaaayy
too conservative (maybe I should investigate grad school on the W.C. --
school's sound more to my liking over there). I doubt we'll see floors that
both male and female occupy in my life time, or bathrooms used by all. I find
it interesting that Universities differ so much in policy from location to
location (West Coast, New England, Mid West, etc). I think my advice to those
Senior High School Students reading this thread is to check out the policy of
the schools you are interested in ... make sure you can live with them for four
(or five or six...) years.

jbright.wbst129@xerox.com

disclaimer: These views are strictly my own, are not meant to represent
Xerox, its associates, my parents, my school, nor my dog's.
From: jaworski@milan.cba.du.edu (Matthew_Jaworski)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Fraternities
Keywords: Greek
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:32:27 GMT
Followup-To: Fraternities
Distribution: all
Organization: University of Denver

Inform us about the Greek System at your campus with facts and  
information...
DU Fraternities include
Sigma Alpha Epsilon
Sigma Phi Epsilon
Sigma Chi
Lamda Chi Alpha
Kappa Sigma
Beta Theta Pi
Alpha Tau Omega
Chi Phi
Phi Kappa Sigma
Pi Kappa Alpha


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From: ehamrick@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Eric N Hamrick)
Subject: NMSU Fully Functional?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:02:41 GMT

     Does anyone know whether Eastern New Mexico University in Portales, NM
   is running at full speed?  When I use the host command with 'nmsu.edu'
   it tells me the address has no mail exchanger.  Furthermore, if up and
   working, is NMSU allowing undergrads on?


                              Thankyou,

                              Eric Hamrick
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: rfd2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Ryan Dickey)
Subject: OHIO U. for HALLOWEEN
Followup-To: soc.college
Organization: BGSU
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:44:56 GMT

Anybody at Ohio University know me?  I went to Sylvania Northview
High School from 88-92 and am going to OU for Halloween with 
my friends here at BG.  If anybody I know reads this, send me
some mail. rfd2001@andy.bgsu.edu  (Ryan Dickey)
Thanks
--Ryan--
From: ek1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eugene Kuo)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: email addresses
Date: 26 Sep 92 10:32:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gel_n1m00WA101fbZO
Organization: Sophomore, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hello,

where is that FAQ located that has the information on how to finger
people at various colleges?  I saved it somewhere, and then promptly
deleted it.  Any info would be great, or you could email it to me. 
Thanks, and sorry about bringing this up again.

eugene
Newsgroups: soc.college,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: mkane@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Margaret Kane)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: SURVEY:  Intervisitation Policy at YOUR school?
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:36:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: netnews.91717
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct4.045747.7306@nmsu.edu> mwolinsk@nmsu.edu writes:
>Okay, I've received several replies to my question of what your school  
>intervisitation policy was.  But I've also received many questions asking me  
>what an intervisitation is.  So let me clarify.
>
>Intervisitation basically states "visit" hours.  For instance (I'm a male), so  
>I can have a female in my room from 8a.m. till Midnight Sun-Thurs and from  
>8a.m. till 3a.m. Fri-Sat.
>
 You're kidding, right? What do you mean you can have a female in your
room only at certain times? Is it a Catholic school or something? Or are
you caught in some weird 1952 time warp?


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From: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell)
Newsgroups: soc.college,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.admin.policy,alt.censorship,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
Subject: Re: Banned Computer Material 1992
Date: 5 Oct 92 09:25:33 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <1992Oct2.153156.5180@newstand.syr.edu> greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield) writes:
>Certainly, all nations which are part of the United Nations must have
>accepted that document--so in an abstract, legal sense, they have
>freely accepted the responsibility to protect free expression rights.

  There is also (in the UN charter, I think) a rule that says that member 
nations should ban racist orgainzations (it is usually used as an argument in
political discussions about the (lack of) merits a law that can ban 
organizations depending on their views. The proponents of such laws always
claim that Sweden is the only country that hasn't got such a law, believe that
those who may:).

  If this is true, it means that two UN rules directly contradict eachother.

>J. S. Greenfield                                         greeny@top.cis.syr.edu

-bertil-
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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: soc.college,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
Subject: What is "banning" anyway?
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:17:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

My Random House defines it as to "prohibit, forbid or bar; interdict"
I claim that is NOT what we are doing!
  Saying "you may post this material anywhere except for this one
place" is a far cry from prohibiting or forbidding the material!

  The reason I am pushing this is that I feel we are a site which is
deeply and fundamentally supportive of open access and free speech. It
hurts to see us listed on the same list as folks who are denying
newsgroup access, shutting off users, and other serious measures. 
   I don't see what's wrong with asking that one particular system
utility, finger, be kept clear of obscene messages, when all of the
other distribution mechanisms , including e-mail, news, and file
storage, are available for unrestricted use. Any student who wishes to
make any message available to the entire system has a number of easy
ways to do it, none of which require recipients to be identified. 

  I have defended users on our system who are sending politically
unpopular mailings. I have fought repeatedly to keep ALL of the alt
groups, even though student collections of .gif files have been
filling up our disk and bringing our system to a halt. 
  We deal with ANY problems by sitting and talking with the user, and 
we have never yet banned any student from any part of the system. 
Our only other restrictions are based strictly on resource limits 
(disk space limits and limits on telnet during prime time *based on 
system load*)


 

    
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Newsgroups: soc.college,alt.censorship,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.admin.policy,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
From: kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Academic Gun Rights 1992 (was Re: Banned Computer Material 1992)
Originator: kadie@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:49:34 GMT

In <1992Oct1.134706.25819@eff.org> kadie@eff.org (Carl M. Kadie)
writes:

>The right to bare arms is not (usually) part of academic freedom.

kraussW@moravian.edu (Bill Krauss - SysAdm) writes:

>Why not?  If Freedom of Speech and Right to Keep and Bare Arms are
>both guaranteed how can we discount one just because it is not
>frequently considered?
[...]

I assume you mean guaranteed by the Bill of Rights. As far as I know,
the right to keep arms, say in a univeristy office, are not guarenteed
by any statements of academic freedom. Do you really think
it should be?

- Carl
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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: mwolinsk@nmsu.edu (SKIman)
Subject: SURVEY:  Intervisitation Policy at YOUR school?
Reply-To: mwolinsk@nmsu.edu
Organization: New Mexico State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:01:34 GMT

This is a small survey I'm taking for a report that I'm writing up at my  
school.

At your school, for your student housing, what is your intervisitation policy?

For example, here at NMSU Sun-Thurs it's Midnight - 8a.m.
                          Fri-Sat   it's 3:00a.m. - 8a.m.

Please reply via E-Mail and thanks for all of your help.


--
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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: aeretana@eos.ncsu.edu (ALVARO ENRIAGE RETANA)
Subject: Info needed on LSU's EE graduate program. 
Keywords: LSU, EE 
Reply-To: aeretana@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: NCSU
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:09:42 GMT

If any one has any info on LSU's EE Graduate program, please send it to me or 
post it.

Thanks.

Alvaro

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From: ce202a2@prism.gatech.EDU (Peter L. Thomas, AE)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Literary Societies
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:07:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Sep28.055629.23356@athena.cs.uga.edu> wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells) writes:

>I'd like to know if there are members of traditional literary (some
>literature, some debate, or some publishing) out there. Although I am
>sure there are some very nice literary magazines and college debate
>teams, I mean the kind of semi-fraternal club with a long history and
>a bizarre Greek, Latin or historical figure name. Almost all are found
>on the East Coast. Some examples are the Philomathean Society at the
>University of Pennsylvania, the Di-Phi's of the University of North
>Carolina, the Eupemians (?) of Davidson, and the Washingtons,
>Jeffersonians, Philolexians, the Cliosophics and so forth. Please
>e-mail me and let me know what y'all are up to, as in numbers of
>members and activities performed.

Baird's manual of American College Fraternities is possibly a good
reference for you.

Psi Upsilon (my fraternity) was originally a literary society, and
has grown into a more traditional ACF over time.  We still have a
few of our original roots in our traditions and activities--although
you'd hardly recognize them now!  The main thing is a focus on 
academics that is particularly emphasized.

--Pete
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Peter L. Thomas (Senior AE)
"Figures never lie, but liars always figure."
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Internet: ce202a2@prism.gatech.edu