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From: michals@fuw.edu.pl (Michal Szleper)
Subject: Polska liga, round 10
Summary: Wyniki 10. kolejki
Organization: Warsaw University Physics Dept.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 12:37:20 GMT

Round 10 of Polish league (played on 3rd/4th October)


1) LECH POZNAN  -  JAGIELLONIA BIAL~YSTOK  5:0
   Skrzypczak     '41
   Podbrozny      '56
   Podbrozny      '63
   Araszkiewicz   '65
   Trzeciak       '82


2) GORNIK ZABRZE  -  RUCH CHORZOW  1:1
   Jegor          '47 (pk)    Srutwa         '63


3) POGON SZCZECIN  -  WISL~A KRAKOW  1:1
   Stolarczyk     '61 (pk)    Marzec         '19


4) SLA,SK WROCL~AW  -  OLIMPIA POZNAN  0:4  !!
                              Pachelski       '4
                              Pachelski      '11
                              Pachelski      '56
                              Mielcarski     '70


5) HUTNIK KRAKOW  -  STAL MIELEC  1:1
   L~e,tocha       '4 (og)    Bociek         '24


6) SZOMBIERKI BYTOM -  SIARKA TARNOBRZEG  4:2
   Swistek        '17         Kucharski       '2
   Krygier        '45         Kobylanski     '71
   Orzeszek       '47
   Orzeszek       '50


7) GKS KATOWICE  -  ZAGL~E,BIE LUBIN  2:0
   Revishvili     '17
   Swierczewski   '44


8) ZAWISZA BYDGOSZCZ  -  L~KS L~ODZ  1:3
   Smirnov        '10 (pk)    Wiezsczycki    '55
                              Wieszczycki    '68
                              Cebula         '89


9) WIDZEW L~ODZ  -  LEGIA WARSZAWA  2:0
   Koniarek       '61
   Mia,szkiewicz  '64


TABLE
=====
    Team          Points   Goals
-------------------------------------
 1. Lech           18-2    23:2
 2. Widzew         16-4    21:9
 3. L~KS           16-4    17:10
 4. Ruch           13-7    17:8
 5. Legia          13-7    15:10
 6. Katowice       12-6    15:7
 7. Stal           11-9    13:10
 8. Zagl~e,bie     10-10   17:12
 9. Wisl~a          9-11   17:11
10. Hutnik          9-11   14:12
11. Szombierki      8-12   12:15
12. Pogon           8-12    9:16
13. Gornik          7-11    8:12
14. Siarka          7-13   14:20
15. Olimpia         6-14    9:18
16. Sla,sk          6-14   10:28
17. Zawisza         5-15    7:20
18. Jagiellonia     4-16    7:25

Cheers.

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From: gsmcd09@castle.ed.ac.uk (K Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Leeds out of Euro Cup
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:57:06 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer) writes:


#>>	I just heard on the radio that Leeds beat Stuttgart 4-1 at
#>>Elland Road, but are OUT of the European Cup because of the away goals
#>>rule. *OUCH* what a way to go.....

#>Yeah that hurts.  I can sympathise with the Yorkshiremen.  Back in the 1970s
#>Derby County won a 1st leg EUFA cup game 4-1 at home against Atletico Madrid.
#>Atletico won the 2nd leg 4-1!  With momentum on their side in extra-time,
#>Atletico scored one more.  I remember feeling devastated and heartbroken
#>for at least a week.
#>At least neither Leeds nor Derby went out on the dreaded penalties (Man Utd!).

Whilst we are on the subject, Dunfermline Athletic lost the first leg of
a Fairs Cup Tie (old name for UEFA cup) away to Valencia 4-0, and beat
them 6-2 at home after leading 5-1 at half time. No away goals rule then
(or penalties) so the game went to a play off in Lisbon. It was in the
middle of the great freeze of 1963 and the Pars lost 1-0 having not
played for over a month beforehand.

Keith
From: jrod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (J. Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Leo Rodriguez
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:49:58 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <fh11.717738507@sol> fh11@sol.acs.unt.edu (Brozovic Douglas) writes:

>Does anyone know where Leonardo Rodriguez of Argentina is currently playing?
>I had thought he went to Marseille and was loaned out...to which club?  How
>is is currently playing?  I only saw him play a couple of times but he 
>looked quite a prospect...

Leonardo should still be playing at Toulon where he was loaned last year.  I
was very excited when Marseille bought him (because he is good, not just
because I have his name) but we had too many foreign-players.  When we sold
Mozer and Steven and Waddle I thought that we would take him back, but instead
we bought Boksic and Voller, and so Leo remains at Toulon.

As to how he is playing, I am sure that Kent will be able to say better than
me.

>Cheers,
>Doug

John

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From: shulman@vxdesy.desy.de (Julian Shulman)
Subject: Re: SOUNESS GETS VOTE OF CONFIDENCE
Reply-To: shulman@vxdesy.desy.de (Julian Shulman)
Organization: University College London/ Zeus Expt, DESY, Hamburg
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:42:30 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.115444.13062@phillip.edu.au>,
t8914229@phillip.edu.au writes:
|>
|>doesn't a vote of confidence usually mean that they have the support
|>of the board, etc.??????
|>isn't it a vote of NO confidence that usually means that they DON'T
|>have
|>the support of the board, etc.?????
|>
|>	LIVERPOOL F.C. RULES THE WORLD FOREVER AND EVER
|>	GRAEME SOUNESS RULES ALL MANAGER
|>
If you were a genuine follower of English football you would know that
the
board always give the manager 
sack him.
I'm sure some of you out there can think of some good examples of this.

Julian Shulman
From: U59115@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: SOUNESS GETS VOTE OF CONFIDENCE
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:32:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: uicvm.92275.093232U59115
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago



In article <1992Oct1.115444.13062@phillip.edu.au>, t8914229@phillip.edu.au says:
>
>doesn't a vote of confidence usually mean that they have the support
>of the board, etc.??????
>isn't it a vote of NO confidence that usually means that they DON'T have
>the support of the board, etc.?????
>
>        LIVERPOOL F.C. RULES THE WORLD FOREVER AND EVER
>        GRAEME SOUNESS RULES ALL MANAGER
You are quite correct however, in football management speak this is
usually a euphamism for "We can't think of who to replace him with at the
present time but when we do we'll let you and HIM know"
         Nice sentiments about yon Graeme but lets face it he's CRAP. The
only reason he took Rangers to so many Scottish Premier championships is
that there is really no Scottish club that can lay their hands on the
amount of money that Rangers can.  Finally look at the facts.  What has he
done since going to Liverpool except take them from the top of the division
to 19th (at the last count).  Perhaps they will be at the top of D1 next year
ie the new D1.
From: J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Number of teams from one city in UEFA comps.
Date: 6 Oct 1992 08:47:23 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu







A correction to message <MNEWS.718043172.5492@gate.demon.co.uk>:

>In the late 50s Barcelona played in the Champions' Cup and the Fairs Cup in
>the same season and reached both finals, winning the Fairs Cup but losing
>the Champions' Cup. After this UEFA stopped teams from entering more than
>one competion.

In 59-60 Barcelona reached the final of the Fairs Cup, but lost in the semis 
of the Champions' Cup. They reached the Champions' Cup final the following
season. As Donie Collins (Donal O Coileain) pointed out the Fairs Cup
originally took 2 years to complete, which was how Barcelona managed to play
in two Euro competitions in the same season.

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From: mccubbin@connext.ucs.sfu.ca (Bruce McCubbin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Van.86ers/US Pro League?/CSL over?
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:49:41 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

In article <1992Oct6.133648.1062@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> rkobenter@galaxy.gov.bc.ca  
writes:
> 
> So my question is: What American Pro league are we talking about?
> 
The Vancouver 86ers have conditionally joined the American Professional
Soccer League.  They have to post a $100,000 deposit and (I guess) the 
League will look into other aspects of the franchise for final approval.
The existing five teams are SF Bay Blackhwaks, Colorado Foxes, Tampa Bay
Rowdies, Fort Lauderdale Strikers and Miami Freedom.  All they need are
a few more teams in cities like Seattle, Los Angeles, Toronto, New York,
etc. and we have the NASL for the '90s.  If they don't get too stupid  
with rule changes and salaries, they could make a go of it this time.  
 
Bruce 
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From: hamlet@stein.u.washington.edu (Mitch McGowan)
Subject: FIFA bans Yugoslavia/FIFA V.P. Neuberger dies
Keywords: misc sports
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:31:41 GMT

clarinews@clarinet.com (United Press International) writes:

>	Yugoslavia has been banned from the 1994 World Cup because of its
>ongoing war. FIFA, world soccer's governing body, said the move was in
>keeping with U.N. sanctions against the fractured country, now made up
>of Serbia and Montenegro. The expulsion originally came in August but
>FIFA granted Yugoslavia a one-month delay at the request of Premier
>Milan Panic, but an ultimatum by the United Nations expired Wednesday
>without any action by Yugoslavia, putting the van into effect.
>Yugoslavia had been drawn into qualifying Group 5 with Hungary, Greece,
>Russia, Iceland and Luxembourg. A replacement was not named. ...

>	The international soccer world bade farewell to FIFA vice-president
>Hermann Neuberger at a funeral service. Neuberger, president of the
>German Soccer Federation (DFB) had died of cancer aged 72 last Sunday.
>Neuberger had worked for the DFB for 40 years, and presided over the
>world's largest individual sports federation since 1975. In 1974, he was
>elected vice president of FIFA and chairman of the international
>federation's World Cup organizing committee. ...

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From: tedwards@cam.nad.northrop.com (Tony Edwards 27541)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Indonesia
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:14:35 GMT
Organization: Northrop Aircraft Division - Operations Productivity, Hawthorne, CA

Does anyone have any information on 
The world cup qualify for Indonesia
i have a friend who would like to 
know what's going on.
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From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Subject: Re: Shef. Wed. vs Spurs
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:48:54 GMT

So there are some Sheffield Wednesday fans out there. What a shame it was to see
Sheff Utd lose midweek to a lesser side. Once the Owls get Hirsty and co back we'll
really be cooking.

Up the Owls

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From: visconm@fog.CS.ORST.EDU (Marcello Visconti)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Soccer Videos
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:12:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Sep29.201243.14877
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


Hi!

I just received a catalog from TRACE VIDEO SPORTS CLUB (1-800-237-5011) and
I want to have some references on their videos before I get involved. (Two
years ago I bought a 'World Cup History' video for 30 bucks, and not only
was the soccer material dissapointing, but they wasted too much time 
showcasing two refs and to top it all: a few Budwaiser ads!!! The tape is
very short and the coverage is quite 'superficial', although some of the 
oldest footage is worth watching. I remember seeing this tape advertised in
UNIVISION during Italy 90. It got me ....)

These people have videos on Soccer and Rugby. The ones on Soccer are concerned
with the World Cup, Instruction & Coaching, European Football (a few old matches
and highlights), celebrity players, England matches and Cosmos matches.

I am most interested in the World Cup tapes.
They have a tape on Mexico 70, one on Mexico 86, one on Brazil 58-62-70,
many Italia 90 matches and highlights, and one on Germany 74.

Anyone knows anything about these videos?

BTW, I would also like to have a video on Argentina 78 and one on Spain 82.
Anybody knows how? 

Marcello.

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From: colins@praxis.co.uk (Colin Shield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Where are the English hooligans?
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:05:19 GMT
Organization: Praxis, Warwick, U.K.

In article <934@hobby.ukc.ac.uk> srd@ukc.ac.uk (S.R.Davies) writes:
>
>	Also, "Premier" <not equal> "Rumbelows". The FA Premier League
> is precisely that ... a league competition, where each team in it plays
> each of the others twice (home and away) over the course of the season.
> It is the major domestic competition in England. The Rumbelows Cup is a
> knock-out competition culminating in a Wembley final between the last
> two teams remaining, and is a poor-man's FA Cup. Rumbelows is the current
> sponsor of what was originally called the League Cup, which is perhaps

This is called the Coca-Cola Cup this season, it was the Rumbleows Cup
last season, and if I remember rightly won by a goal scored by Mclair
and gifted by Darren Wassal.

Colin Shield
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni)
Subject: Re: Serie A, Week 5
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 18:25:38 GMT

In article <Aeo5u7y00WB9Ar6JkZ@andrew.cmu.edu> Saverio Cittadini <sc4n+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>A few correction to Marco's posting...
>
> [stuff deleted].

On behalf of the people out there who follow the Italian league on
the net, thanks for the corrections, Saverio! I wasn't able to closely
follow the outcome of yesterday's games as I usually do; I took down
the information from the commentator of the Fiorentina-Milan game
who is the "very accurate" Giorgio Martino.. :-) As for me, after the
game yesterday, I was busy following Claudio Chiappucci and friends
in the Grand Prix des Ameriques...

>                                     Saverio

Regards,

Marco...
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From: harin@iti.gov.sg (Harinderpal Singh)
Subject: Re: england and WC94 qualifying!!!  info needed please....
Originator: harin@whitney.iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 11:00:14 GMT


Europe Group 2
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

       		P W D L  F  A Pts
Norway          2 2 0 0 12  1  4
Poland          1 1 0 0  1  0  2
England         0 0 0 0  0  0  0
Holland         1 0 0 1  1  2  0
Turkey          1 0 0 1  0  1  0
San Marino      1 0 0 1  0 10  0


09/09/92 NOR-SM		10-0
23/09/92 NOR-HOL 	 2-1
23/09/92 POL-TUR	 1-0
07/10/92 SM -NOR
14/10/92 ENG-NOR 
14/10/92 HOL-POL  
28/10/92 TUR-SM
18/11/92 ENG-TUR  
16/12/92 TUR-HOL
17/02/93 ENG-SM
24/02/93 HOL-TUR
10/03/93 SM -TUR
24/03/93 HOL-SM
31/03/93 TUR-ENG  
28/04/93 ENG-HOL  
28/04/93 NOR-TUR  
28/04/93 POL-SM
19/05/93 SM -POL
29/05/93 POL-ENG  
02/06/93 NOR-ENG  
09/06/93 HOL-NOR  
08/09/93 ENG-POL  
22/09/93 NOR-POL
22/09/93 SM -HOL
13/10/93 HOL-ENG  
13/10/93 POL-NOR
27/10/93 TUR-POL
10/11/93 TUR-NOR  
16/11/93 SM -ENG
17/11/93 POL-HOL  

Regards,
	Harin
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From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: gazza
Date: 27 Sep 92 04:32:51 GMT
	<1992Sep26.111840.11040@waikato.ac.nz>
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "coyle" == coyle  (coyle@waikato.ac.nz)

coyle> Gazza made his debut for Lazio in a match against his old club
coyle> Spurs.

I'm amazed these teams can find the time for a friendly, especially
Spurs with all those English cups.

/Lars
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From: mazzarel@purina.berkeley.edu (Ariel Mazzarelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Diego Maradona's return
Date: 30 Sep 1992 01:16:24 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purina.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep29.185704.11914@wam.umd.edu> waddlech@wam.umd.edu (David Akkarach) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.140206.9741@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras) writes:
>>From the BBC World Service:
>>Amongst the 35,000 spectators was the Argentinian national team coach
>>(his name escapes me) who was quoted as saying that Maradona will play
>>in all the national team games from now until the USA '94 World Cup
>>(he will be 34 then), and that Diego is still a footballing genius.
>I would think that a team's coach should always attended the matches. :-)
>Btw, Carlos Bilardo is also coach of Sevilla.

Sorry if this is a little pedantic,  but Bilardo is the former coach of
the national team  (was he fired?  Did he quit?  Hard to say, but...). 
The new head coach of the national team is "Coco" Basile,  who somehow
manages to combine an attacking style with that quality that Bilardo
lusted after--undefeated for 20 straight games.  And that was without
Diego...

Ariel
From: unrzd3@wap.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Henning Schmiedehausen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Leeds *NOT* out of europe.
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:18:44 GMT
Organization: RRZE, Regionales Rechenzentrum, Universitaet Erlangen Nuernberg

M.H.Smith@newcastle.ac.uk (Mark Smith) writes:


>	Shock news !!!!!

>Leeds may have been handed a lifeline in the Europran Cup.

>Stuttgart, in the dying minutes of the game, fielded an illegal player (either
>becuase there were two many foreigners or he wasn`t registerd properly).

>UEFA are meeting this morning to decide what to do, the options are :-

>1) Do Nothing. (very unlikely)
>2) Fine Stuttgart. Unlikely because the fine would not be much compared to the 
>revenue coming form getting to the next round (esp. if they progress into the
>round robin)
>3) Ban Stuttgart and put Leeds in their place in the draw.
>4) Order a replay at Elland road with the teams on equal goals (inc. away goals). 

You forgot

5) Third match on neutral ground.

This is the decision of UEFA.

	Party on
		Henning

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From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Whatever happenned to ?
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:37:39 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster


Whatever happenned to .........

1) Cambuslang

2) Dave Morning

3) Celtic Family Card

4) Dale Gordon

5) Gerry     ???????????

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Glasgow
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From: ehchua@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Eu Hin Chua)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Leeds out of Euro Cup (NOT!)
Date: 4 Oct 1992 03:03:59 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
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mrbulli@btoy1.UUCP (Thomas Bullinger) writes:

>TIM KENNEDY (timk@bjcong.bj.co.uk) wrote:
>: In article <1adg2uINNkfp@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> ehchua@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Eu Hin Chua) writes:
>: >
>: >	I just heard on the radio that Leeds beat Stuttgart 4-1 at
>: >Elland Road, but are OUT of the European Cup because of the away goals
>: >rule. *OUCH* what a way to go.....
>: >
>: 
>: In a dramatic reversal of fortune,  the Hun Champions Stuttgart have been
>: penalised for fielding too many foreigners in the thriller at Elland Rd
>: on the 30th September.  The appearance of Jovo Simic (?) means that Leeds
>: are now back IN THE DRAW for the second round.  The Huns may be turfed
>: unceremoniously out or alternatively a replay be held at Elland Road with
>: the scoresheet wiped again. 
>: ...
>: 
>: The German side were splattered all over the park last Wednesday and they 
>: will be quaking in their boots at the thought of a replay.
>: 
>: 			Big Eric
>: 

>
>Just a question, dear fellow: Have the thought ever crossed your mind that
>the second world war is long gone? Or are we still talking in terms of that
>time (e.g. huns)?


	Actually I think Big Eric might be referring to the First World
War, where the term "hun" was more commonly used, as opposed to "jerry"
in World War Two :-) No offense intended of course.

	Eu Hin Chua
From: mphillip@MATAI.VUW.AC.NZ
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re:Souness Gets Vote
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:51:29 GMT

Well, I won't say I told you so but the Sword of Damocles now hangs over the
"Great Saten" (who the hell came up with that name?). How long can he last?
Votes of confidence usually mean they have already talked to somebody else but
are haggling about salary and conditions etc...My favourites for the job are

John Toshack
Alan Hansen
Ronnie Moran (Going back to the traditional backroom set up)
Jimmy Greaves
Ron Atkinson (Isn't he about due to move on, he's been at Villa far too long..
	      he must be going soft).

Maybe as an outsider Mark Lawrenson although his foray into the management side
of things wasn't too successful if I recall (but Brian Horton did well after
taking over).

Any thoughts on who the new boss will be?

Martin