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From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Resolution, Audio Sampling
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:44:49 GMT
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Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <9914@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au writes:

>>>Question:  will 1280x480 interlaced be possible with a MultiSync?
>
>>	I doubt it.  Since it looks like you are looking at a 640 max (monitor)
>
>Oops, doubled the wrong figure... I meant "640x960"...  
[stuff deleted]

	The question is not "can they do it", the question is, why would you
want to?  You were questioning just the 640x480 in interlace - on a multisynch
it would be much worse (usually lower refresh rate depending on quality of
monitor).  Sure, you might be able to get full-page display out of it (I think)
but who wants to try to do DTP for more than 10 min. on an interlaced display?
You certainly don't want to do games where you have to track objects and blink
no more than once every ten minutes. :)  


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: pinelr@aix.rpi.edu (Rob Pinelli)
Subject: Re: Gem Support Dieing?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 13:48:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.034556.28695@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> cable@crs.cl.msu.edu (Dan Cable) writes:
>apelled@cix.compulink.co.uk (Adam Pelled) writes:
>
>>GEM on the PC was severely crippled due to some law suit with Apple. Like
>>windows can't be sized etc..  How Atari got round this one i don't know.
>>All the GUIs around today owe alot to Apple even if they don't admit it.
>>How comes the recoverable trashcan thingy in Neo got by the board for that
>>matter ?  i'm fairly sure this was copyright Apple.
>
>I think it might be more correct to say that all the GUIs around today owe a 
>lot to Xerox PARC and not to Apple. I am, however, somewhat suprised too that 
>Gribnif didn't at least get a "cease and desist" letter from Apple's 
>attorneys.
  
   Well, I don't know for sure but I think Apple may not have considered GEM
on the Atari platform to be much of a threat to their market share.  At least
not big enough to justify any legal expenses they would've incurred.  Now
IBM on the other hand...

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 Mega 2 | Troy, NY 12180 |7080\ better place, it'd be perfect!"   -Little Shop
From: jvance@maxwell.oac.uci.edu (Joachim Vance)
Subject: Re: Bob Brodie address
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 16 Aug 92 01:47:22 GMT


>ca806@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Roger M. Selby) writes:
>>Does someone have an e-mail address for Bob Brodie - on any of
>>the commercial services, an internet address or a fnet node
>>and username? Thanks

dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward) writes:
>Bob gets his Internet access thru Compuserve;  70007,3240@Compuserve.com

Wrong.  You have to take out the comma and replace it with a period.
That would be:

  70007.3240@compuserve.com   

for Bob Brodie at Compu$erve.  Apparently he can also be reached at
Delphi (If he's ever there) at:

    bobbro@delphi.com   

I'm surprised that Genie doesn't get a net gateway installed.




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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,news.answers
From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Subject: Re: Falcon Resolution, Audio Sampling
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 08:41:34 GMT

In article <l9a6chINN2f8@aludra.usc.edu> baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.063930.4986@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu) writes:
>>because I'm still a little curious about what's going on... Who knows, maybe
>>one day I'll find a need for a 1440x240 display.)
>
>	Well, if you can figure out a patch to swap x->y, and y->x, and then
>turn your monitor on its side, you can get yourself a full-page monitor - 
>albeit a little skinny.  :)

No kidding, a bit too skinny... But it's certainly been entertaining to see
what kinds of programs can and cannot cope with really weirdo screen sizes.
I was quite disappointed to find that the version of Uniterm I hacked to
work with Overscan failed in this mode, had to fall back to Zmodem. (Just a
brief aside - I've come to learn that an 80x50 text screen is tremendously more
useful than a 160x25 screen....)
>
>	BTW, what machine did you pull this stunt on?  ST or STe (I don't know
>if the Ad board works on STe, so I thought I'd ask)?

An old Mega ST, with the old homebrew overscan mod, and various other abuses.
>
>PS:  This is a bit beyond my realm of "knowing" and into guessing, but don't
>video signals output an Hsynch signal?  If so, it sounds like half of the
>Hsynch signals are being blocked.  Then the multisynch monitor compensates
>for the funky signal...but I guess your monitor is a cut above the normal as
>ratings are really just minimums...of course it probably helps that it only
>has to deal with half as many scan lines.

Yeah, not only the hsync, but the video blanking appears to be missing. This
is not a case of the signal being externally suppressed, as far as I can tell.
The other funny thing about this situation is that simply writing the current
value of the ShiftMode register back to itself restores the normal 640x400
monochrome screen configuration ($ff8260).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Software written to your specs
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:25:11 GMT

In article <H.8zrhn73hGgw@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca> jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>
>	I'd like to see a trn-like newsreader for the various uucp setups
>we have. Or even better, a port of the bsd uucp package to MiNT. If
>uucico ran under MiNT, I'd be running MiNT all the time, so even a
>MiNT freindly UUCICO would be nice.
>

You might want to take a quick peruse around Comp.lang.perl.  Some guys at
University of Manitoba have just released a newsreader written in Perl,
that is designed to work identically with both DOS and Unix.  This would
be a good opportunity to get the ST in there!

(Notable fact:  Larry Wall, author of both rn and Perl, "is
talking about rewriting it in Perl."  He's been busy with other stuff,
so maybe it's time that others get the task started.)

The program is called "brn", and weighs in at about 50K of code.  It
needs Perl, so you can immediately add another 268K.  This is still
probably smaller than trn, and probably more readable.

Of course, uucp would be required in addition to brn.  I'd be surprised
if the Unix uucp were very hard to port to MiNT.

-- 
Christopher Browne
cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca
University of Ottawa
Master of System Science Program
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: vince@sci.kun.nl (V.G.J.M. Stoks)
Subject: Re: Falcon Resolution, Audio Sampling
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:53:37 GMT

In <1992Aug18.181846.3658@riacs.edu> glennd@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Glen Deardorff) writes:

>I know that the standard resolutions that the Falcon supports is no higher 
>than 640 x 480.  But isn't it possible to go up to something like 1280 x 1024
>or 800 x 600, with a video card and SVGA monitor?  I was told by a local 
>Atari dealer who had seen the Falcon that this was the case.  I'd love to 
>fantasize about getting one, but I'm afraid that higher resolution is a 
>principal concern of mine.  

Same here. You can't seriously multitask (and that's the way Atari
seems to be going) with such a small screen. We want many windows open
at once, so there has to be room for them on screen. Anyway, I think I
remember reading somewhere that a programmable overscan will be built
in, and that the Falcon could easily (and cheaply) be upgraded to about 
900x1200. That sounds more like it, huh? Problem Is, monitors above 768x1024
rapidly become unaffordable (at least color monitors do). BTW, if I
remember correctly, it was someone from Atari who said it. Makes it
less of a rumour. It sounds believable anyway, since OverScan does
quite good work in an ST for little dinero. Shouldn't be too hard to
integrate some kind of overscan in the video circuitry.

[stuff deleted about which I know nothing anyway]

>Muchas Gracias 

De nada.

Sander SToks,
vince@sci.kun.nl
From: only_bbs!arthur_dent@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: (none)
Date: 15 Aug 92 06:12:00 GMT
Organization: Ouch! That Hurt!
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant


 I am attempting to write a 
program that accesses the modem, and I have a question:  Is there a 
convenient way to set/drop DTR and RTS?  I haven't found any way to do this. 
 An example in C would be most helpful, or even in assembly if that's the only
 way.  Thanks.  
  
 arthur dent  
 sysop@onlybbs.via.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: amos@prl.dec.com (Samos)
Subject: Falcon 
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Paris Research Laboratory
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:25:49 GMT

Do you think it is worth buying a falcon ??


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: otv@hal.nta.no (Oddvar Tveito FTO)
Subject: Games on my STe
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 10:03:47 GMT

Hello!

I never thought I would ever say this, but: I am a little bit curious about
what computer games are all about. So, would someone please recommend what they
think are the best games availeable as shareware/freeware for my 1040STe. I
know *nothing* about computer games. I have only tried STETRIS which I found
quite amusing. I have looked in a.a but where should I start? There are
hundreds of them!!

I am 31 years old, so I don't think the different war/action-games will be my
favourite. But perhaps some kind of IQ/coordination/creativity demanding games.

Thanks in advance!

- Oddvar Tveito

email: otv@nta.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: lenin@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Alejandro Perez-Pulido)
Subject: trading for a 1040 STe
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:53:03 GMT

I was interested in getting a 1040STe and I have a bunch of gaming
machines in top condition that I am willing to trade. In
particular I have a Genesis "core" system and a Super Nintendo "base
unit" and a couple of other things.
If you have an STe (520 or 1040 but I would preffer a 1040)
drop me a note if you want to exchange, I am willing to also pich in
some money if the system is nice.
Thanks!

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From: only_bbs!arthur_dent@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: (none)
Date: 15 Aug 92 06:10:00 GMT
Organization: Ouch! That Hurt!
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 Can anyone verify for me that the authors of MIDI-MAZE II are still around, 
and provide a current address for them?  An E-Mail address would also be most
 helpful, if they have one.  I would like to send them a shareware payment, 
but I want to make sure they'll receive it...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jonal@sofus.dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Subject: Re: Atari Scandinavia Going Bankrupt?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:07:26 GMT

In article <etxansk.713717742@garbod20> etxansk@garbo.ericsson.se writes:

> I read in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy that Atari Scandinavia is
>supposed to have gone out of business. 

> Is there anybody on the net who can confirm this?

> If it's true, it's the second time they go bust, first time
>was back in '85 or so (before the Tramiel takeover).

> Anders Skelander, Sweden
> 

Atari Scandinavia IS out of business as for now. The old distribution is 
beeing reworked, with national distributors instead. They may get their 
machines from Atari Holland (or Be-Ne-Lux, I don't know what it's called). 
Theis can maybe result in lower prices - Ataris have always been too 
expensive in Norway. Atari Norway got their machines from Atari Sweden and 
then shipped them to a distributor...

Several people I know are waiting for something to happen as their 
businesses depend upon it. Some deals may be made during the Atari Messe in 
Dusseldorf later on.

Nomad

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: bobhays@spss.com (Bob Hays)
Subject: Looking for ST binaries for glib
Organization: SPSS, Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 22:47:55 GMT

I've gotten a Kawai K5 and found the Kawai free patches out in ftp
land, but these patches are in glib format.  I don't have enough space
(such as a hard disk:-) to build glib, so I was hoping someone could
either direct me to an ftp site with the binaries for the ST or
someone could uuencode and email the program(s) to me or I could mail
a diskette and get a copy that way.

Thanks! - Bob

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From: ziggy@grafted.UUCP (anthony lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ST Xwindows?
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:18:10 GMT
Organization: GRAFTED, Central Indiana's Usenet BBS 317-881-4369

hi.
        Is there a way to hook up my wife's ST with my UNIX box, running
X11R5? I would like to keep the advantages of X, not just a ansi term
window on the ST.... I have a few better apps on my box than her....

                                                Ziggy.


long live the 8080......

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uucp: ..!uunet!grafted.UUCP!ziggy
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: REISSEN@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (REISSENAUER BERNHARD)
Subject: Bug in Ghostscript 2.41 ?
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:00:47 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

Message for Tim Gallivan, timg@landau.ph.utexas.edu


Hallo Tim!


I uploaded the new version Ghostscript 2.41 from lifshitz.ph.utexas.edu.
I installed it on my ST (1040STF with 4Mb memory and TOS 1.04).
When I started gs with

gs filename.ps

I got the error message

Initializing ....
Unexpected interpreter error -21

The error obviously occured during the initializing process. With
version 2.31 everything is ok, only with version 2.41 I get this
error. So the file gs_init.ps seems to be ok, and this must be a
bug of version 2.41.

The program gemgs seems to have a bug, too. Together with NVDI version
2.03 the program bombs, without NVDI it works, but the mouse pointer
looks like a busy bee all the time.

Please could you correct these two bugs, I want to use these
two programs. gemgs really is a very good program.

Thanks

Bernhard Reissenauer

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,misc.forsale
From: lagoze@cs.cornell.edu (Carl Lagoze)
Subject: Atari 1040ST System for sale
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:43:00 GMT

I have replaced my old home computer and offer it for sale.
It consists of:

Atari 1040ST computer, 1 mb memory, 68000 processor
Internal double sided drive
Atari Monochrome Monitor
Atari external double sided drive
Citizen MSP-10 dot matrix printer
WordPerfect for Atari
EasyDraw

All pieces are in excellent working condition.

Make me a reasonable offer and we can negotiate.


Carl Lagoze
607-273-2892 (during the evenings)
carl@grammtech.com


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: glennd@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Glen Deardorff)
Subject: Falcon Resolution, Audio Sampling
Organization: RIACS, NASA Ames Research Center
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 18:18:46 GMT

I know that the standard resolutions that the Falcon supports is no higher 
than 640 x 480.  But isn't it possible to go up to something like 1280 x 1024
or 800 x 600, with a video card and SVGA monitor?  I was told by a local 
Atari dealer who had seen the Falcon that this was the case.  I'd love to 
fantasize about getting one, but I'm afraid that higher resolution is a 
principal concern of mine.  

Also, does anyone know if there there is anyone presently developing sample
editing programs that use the Falcon's sampling capabilities?

Muchas Gracias 


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: vince@sci.kun.nl (V.G.J.M. Stoks)
Subject: Re: Falcon Resolution, Audio Sampling
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:06:13 GMT

In <9886@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au> warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison) writes:

>vince@sci.kun.nl (V.G.J.M. Stoks) writes:

>>You can't seriously multitask (and that's the way Atari
>>seems to be going) with such a small screen. We want many windows open
>>at once, so there has to be room for them on screen.

>ahahahhah!  Unix users have been multi-tasking with no troubles at
>all, just using DUMB TERMINALS.  You can always use multiple-screen
>interfaces (eg. "miwm" for MiNT, which even though it is a quick-hack,
>is still excellent; or for those keen - just port Unix "screens").

I know, I know... Before I discovered a room full of SUN IPC's I used
to work (well... read the news anyway) on some good old adm3a's. Now,
if any terminal is dumb, it's these ones.

>Multiple windows is not a pre-requisit for multip-tasking... though I
>imagine BigScreens will appear for the Falcon even faster than they did
>for the ST...

It mightn't be a pre-requisit, but do I like to have it! Some programs
don't run in bg nicely (they keep getting stopped for terminal output)
(Yes I know there must be a solution for that...). I like TOSWIN a
LOT; it gives me real XWindow-feeling; with the new Falcon GEM (I saw
screenshots; nice face-lift, with 3D-style windows) it would even be
Motif- or OpenLook-like. Whoopee!
I just like "A4-windows" for TeX-previewing and such. For that, I need
a big screen. I *can* open a 67-line window now, but with that tiny 6x6
font. And that's with 480 vertical pixels. So I would like to have
just a bit more on the Falcon, even if it's just in mono.

>But are you really going to plug a $1500 monitor into your $1000 computer :-)?

I've seen some reasonable XVGA monitors (768x1024), non-interlaced,
color, for under HFl 1000,- (Look in your local newspaper what the
exchange rate is... It's <600 US$).

>--
>warwick
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Sander SToks
vince@sci.kun.nl
From: anisko@usdtsg.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (anisko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: fast modems
Keywords: Fast? Really?
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:38:05 GMT
Reply-To: anisko@usdtsg.UUCP ()
Organization: NCR Corporation, Dayton

In article <4249@wet.UUCP> ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen) writes:
>
>>2: Will the new Atari machines ( Falcon et al ) be able to keep up with 
>>   these sort of speeds?
>
>The "old" Atari machines, like the MegaSTE and TT, already support astronomical
>speeds on their second through fourth modem ports.  STalker is the only term
>program I'm aware of that supports those faster speeds.  (Maybe Rufus too,
>or Connect?)

   It seems somewhat odd that Modem 2 and up support the high baud rates,
but not Modem 1.  I wonder if Atari was trying to keep some compatibility
with the old machines that I do not fathom?  (i.e. shouldn't Modem 1 and
Modem 2 act the same way?).  I've done transfers of 38,400 baud from my
MegaSTe to my PC using Connect 1.8i (I would have gone higher, but the baud
rates listed above 38400 for the PC and ST term programs didn't match).

   I wonder what kind of speeds the Falcon's DSP could do if it were
programmed for such purposes...

 					Robert Anisko
					anisko@usdtsg.daytonoh.ncr.com
					R.ANISKO
					Fnet 410


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman)
Subject: just got my machine back (what does it need?)
Summary: how much will it cost to bring it up to date?
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:09:52 GMT


I just got my machine back from a relative that I lent it to for two
years.  So, I'm trying to figure out whether to sell it or upgade it.
Its a 1040 ST with 1meg, ICD host adapter, mono monitor, and TOS 1.0.
I have read the faq's but still have some questions.

I am thinking about upgrading either the RAM or processor or both.  What
would be a recomended solution?  

What version of the OS to I need to go to?.

I have some software that I would like to know the latest (last?) version
	Antic A-Calc Prime
	Antic Flash
	OSS Pascal
	Megamax C
	DBMan
	Thunder
	Easy Draw
	Shankhai
	Sundog
	FS II
	HabaWriter

Are there any dealers in the North Carolina Area?

Email replies are fine.

<joe>
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