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From: joel@fps.com (Joel Broude)
Subject: Re: California sales tax for used cars
Organization: Cray Research Superservers Inc., San Diego CA, USA
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:32:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.170642.20299@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> shankar@navajo.berkeley.edu (Shankar Narayanaswamy) writes:

>When a person buys a used car in California, the sales tax is payable
>on registration. However, this tax varies with the county. So if the
>purchaser registers the car in a county far away from his residence
>can he avoid the higher tax rate? 

according to a local car dealer the answer is yes.  my brother, who
lives in L.A., almost bought a car here in San Diego two weeks ago.  
the dealer suggested that he use my address here in San Diego on the
registration so he could pay the lower sales tax (7.75% vs. 8.25%).
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:53:56 -0400 
From: Mark Caldwell Bellman <mb4u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Clifford Car Alarm For Sale

I have a clifford Super IPS car alarm for sale.  I just hait removed from
my ld car before selling it.  The alam is in perfect condition.  I
am selling it because I need the money.

I am asking $140.00 or best offer.

Some of the features:

---  Passive Alarm
---  Ignition shut off
---  Valet Mode
--Promable
-Shock sensor

                                markm.arew.cmu.edu
From: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Sentra E vs. Saturn SL
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:27:09 GMT
Reply-To: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com

In article <92204.175416NAZ@auvm.american.edu> NAZ@auvm.american.edu (Naz > >
> >Amazing results ?  Hardly. Yes, please post the tests. I know from driving
> >both cars what you'll find. The SE-R is marginally quicker according to the
> >numbers, but I'll take the superior torque of the Saturn engine any day.
> >Again, you are letting magazine reviews run your life, instead of actually
> >driving both cars and posting YOUR opinions (as I'm doing now).
> 
> Ok, here are *MY* opinions.  First of all, I've driven a Saturn SL2
> before and I don't like the way the engine sounds.  The hum of the
> Sentra SE-R is music to my ears compared to the cacophony of the Saturn.
> Second, I don't like the styling of the Saturn.  It looks like my dad's
> Oldsmobile.  Third, I don't like anything that is overhyped by the
> freakin' media but has nothing to show for.  Fourth, I like something
> that's been around the market for awhile, has a good automotive history,
> and is reliable.  Saturn has only 2 years of history which is not
> enough in my book.  Nissan has built lots and lots of cars that became
> classic and reliable cars which means that there's a very good chance
> that they will continue building more cars like this.  Maybe I'll
> consider a Saturn after its 5th year of *good cars* and *good service*.
> Maybe...
> 
> Those are *MY* honest opinions.  Happy?
> 
> -Naz

Yes, very. You've dug such a big hole I think I'll just let it cave in on you.
Nothing to show for? How about a JD Power raking ahead of your beloved Nissan ?
How about a very favorable reliability rating from CU ? How about the
dealers only having an 18 day supply of cars, instead of the usual 60+ ?
Saturn only has a 2 year history, I'll agree - but how long has GM been
around? Do you consider Acura and Lexus to be new and unproven as well ?
Which cars has Nissan made that are "classic and reliable ? The sleek
B210? The stylish 310 ? The rust-bucket 240-60-80 ? Some Nissans have
approached classic status (the 240 and early 510's) but I would tread
real lightly on the relable part. I've spent considerable time working
with friends on Z cars. Nice cars, and a lot of fun, but reliable isn't
a word that I would use. It's probably too early to guage Saturn reliabiliy for
the long haul, but mine's been nothing short of perfect so far. And 
judging from the sales success I'm not the only one.

Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com
From: jhh@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Jim Horne)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Car Alarms for Miata?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:12:21 GMT
Reply-To: jhh@cosmic.physics.ucsb.edu
Organization: UCSB Physics Department

Because of repeated acts of petty vandalism, my brother wants to
install a car alarm in his (almost) new Mazda Miata.  He tried calling
the three Mazda dealers in the area (Rockville, MD), and none of them
knew anything about car alarms other than the price ($500). They
didn't have the slightest idea how the alarms worked, or even the
brand, but were certainly willing to install one anyways.

My brother tried calling all the car alarm places in the phonebook,
and found only one that knew anything. They want to sell him an
Alpine 8040 for $480.

Does anyone have any suggestions or experiences with Miata alarms?  Is
$480 a decent price for an alarm?

Thanks in advance.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Horne
jhh@cosmic.physics.ucsb.edu
                                       
	     "Mars is somewhat the same distance from the sun, which is
	     very important.  We have seen pictures where there are
	     canals, we believe, and water.  If there is water, there
	     is oxygen.  If oxygen, that means we can breathe."
                                             Dan Quayle, August 11, 1989
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: korp@atlantis.eid.anl.gov (Peter Korp)
Subject: Comments about GMC Typhoon...(Looking to purchase)
Summary: How good is it and what is a decent price to pay?
Keywords: GMC, Typhoon, SUV, comments
Organization: Advanced Computer Application Center, Argonne National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:04:10 GMT


I have just about convinced myself that I want to get a GMC Typhoon. But
before I buy some advice or comments about others experience with it would
be appreciated. Does it hold up in use, how much did you pay for it new, and
would you make the same choice again. How high are your insurance costs?


---

Peter A. Korp				korp@eid.anl.gov
Assistant Scientist
Argonne National Laboratory
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: GOODGUYS Northwest Get-Together, Salem, OR   
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 21:43:45 GMT


I'm heading out for Salem for the Get-Together - weather look's good -
lots of cars - lots of merchants/manufacturer's reps - music - a
good time for all this weekend - at the Oregon State Fair grounds
in Salem, OR



-- 
________________       __        ________________   "They that can give up
\_________      \     /_ \      /      _________/  essential liberty to 
 \_________      \_____/  \____/      _________/  obtain temporary safety
  \___________________      __________________/  deserve neither liberty 
                     /______\                   nor safety."  
ALL disclaimers apply ....                           --Benjamin Franklin
	  
Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.legal
From: chan@cup.portal.com (Jeffrey W Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Passport Wideband Radar Detectors
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 00:41:57 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <1992Jul20.143009.3898@oakhill.sps.mot.com> <62881@cup.portal.com>

I asked for Escort DSP and Valentine One sensitivity specs.
Someone e-mailed me the Escort DSP spec:

  -121 dBm/cm^2  X
  -114 dBm/cm^2  K

which is amazing to me.  The claimed typical sensitivity for
the current Escort Passports was -113 and -107 respectively

I called Valentine and they said they don't quote specs, but
they're sending me info and a BMW Roundel review comparing the 
Valentine, "DSP" (presumably Escort DSP) and a BEL.  This review
should have independent sensitivity measurements, which I'll post.

Valentine said they're backordered until November.  The person 
answering the phone also said that it uses both analog and digital 
signal processing and a Motorola chip (she didn't know which one).

Anyone else got sensitivity specs?  BEL?  Please post...

Jeff C.
From: vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:51:19 GMT
Subject: Re: 4wd sports utility recommendations sought
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.autos

In rec.autos, traiger@cheshire.oxy.edu (Saul Traiger) writes:

> My father is moving to ski country and seeks advice regarding full and smaller
> sized four wheel drive sports utility vehicles.  His concept of the ideal
> vehicle would be one that is not so high off the ground, that does not have
> such oversized tires, that holds four passengers, that will be used on paved
> surfaces almost 100% of the time, and has anti-locking brakes.  Any ideas on
> models which meet these conditions?
> 
> Saul Traiger
> traiger@oxy.edu

  Yeah, none. :->
  
  You have just describe a Subaru Leagcy sedan/sw, not an SUV.

  Cheers,
  Victor "Curmudgeon" Johnson
  ===========================
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: barry@geovision.gvc.com (Barry Comer)
Subject: Re: MAZDA DEALER RIP OFF
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:08:07 GMT

In <l6mr0sINNrjm@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> barnesm@vavau.Corp.Sun.COM (Mark Barnes) writes:
>When I came back in to sign the final paperwork and pick up my car on Wednesday,I looked
>over the paperwork and noticed they had charged me for a 5-year extended service contract
>that I had declined earlier.  I pointed this out BEFORE I signed the final agreement and they
>fixed it.   I should have just left, but....they had my car already.
>WATCH OUT for dealer add-ons that they may try to slip onto your contract in hopes that
>you won't notice.

>The dealer is Fontana Mazda in Fontana, CA.


	Is there a pattern forming here or is it just car dealer scum in 
	general?  The first Mazda dealer I went to added on $2100.00 CDN
	for load ins. without me asking for it.  They said that since 
	SOME people ask for it they now add it on automatically.
	Needless to say I went to another dealer.


$0.02
Barry

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ssave@ole.cdac.com (Shailendra Save)
Subject: Re: Integra pricing
Organization: CDAC, WA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:01:37 GMT

In article <Jul.30.16.30.17.1992.5428@ruhets.rutgers.edu> gnelson@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Gregory Nelson) writes:
>I'm looking to buy a '92 Acura Integra with A/C and possibly an AM/FM/cass.
>The dealers have been giving me prices in the neighborhood of $12,900 or
>so.  Any idea what these cars _should_ be going for?  What's the best 
>time to buy?  Will they be more desperate come the end of August when
>the '93s are coming in?  Any word on revisions for the '93s?  
>
>Any suggestions/advice on buying a new car or dealing with Acura dealers
>in particular will be gratefully accepted.  I'm a rookie at this so I can
>use all the help I can get!  Thanks.
>
>Greg Nelson  (gnelson@physics.rutgers.edu)



  You are probably looking at the LS with AC and AM/FM/Cass.  $12,900 is
a very good price for a new car.  Also, I assume that the neighbourhood
that you are talking about is in hundreds and not thousands.  Remember
that the three Integra styles, RS, LS and GS are all the exact same car
in terms of engine spec, and body styling (LS and GS have sun/moon/stars'
roof). 
  A good time to buy a previous year car is the January-February of the
next year.  In your case, it would be Jan of 1993.

Good luck,
Shailendra
'91 Integra GS.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: lott@egr.msu.edu (Jennifer Lott)
Subject: Thanks for Honda CRX replies....but
Organization: Case Center, Michigan State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:48:04 GMT


My server is down and I'm having problems posting personal replies (and 
Thank yous) so I'm just sending another posting.

Thanks to Manu, Hugh and Carol for responding to my Honda CRX questions.  I 
stopped by my Toyota Dealership (Lansing, Michigan) last night to see what 
they had, and they were having this great sale.  So I pick out a Toyota 
Corrolla and I'm pick'n it us tonight.  It's a 1992 and it's a style I 
like.  My brother also mentioned an increase in CRX's insurance rates (a 
problem for me).

So thanks for all the input, but I decided on something else.

Jennifer
Xref: sparky rec.autos:18725 rec.autos.driving:4672
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:31:23 CST
From:         JMARTIN@WUVMD
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:         correct: Z vs. M3- thanks
Newsgroups:   rec.autos,rec.autos.driving




Sorry!!!!!!

Damn typos:    that should say that I am only considering cars with
             LESS than 45k on the dash.  I am trying for something
             in the almost new category - like 12 - 20k maybe 30.


joe martin
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: bobw@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bob Waffenschmidt)
Subject: Honda Civic Cruise Control
Organization: Grumman Corporation
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:51:41 GMT

PLEASE, contact me directly  if you have installed a Cruse Control on
a CIVIC.  I am having some trouble conecting to the throtle.  I'll
provide  for  the the details to respondents.
Thanks in advance.
From: babineau@spxtech.qc.ca (Andre Babineau)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Connolly Hide Food
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:43:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 624

From article <1992Jul28.155840.7084@dsd.es.com>, by bjernfal@olin.dsd.es.com (Jan Bjernfalk):
> 
> A while back I remember seeing some positive reviews of a treatment
> for leather seats called "Connolly Hide Food", or something close to
> that.
> 
> Does anyone know where to buy this stuff?
> 
> -- 
> __________________________________________________________________________
> Jan Bjernfalk                           Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
> bjernfal@dsd.es.com                     Salt Lake City, Utah  801-582-5847

Try to reach MOSS in California, I don't have the number here
but I'm sure they have it. 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Subject: Re: Yokohama tires
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:16:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.110942.1@wharton.upenn.edu> mizutanit@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
>In article <hgm.711980096@fbi.cc.ncsu.edu>, hgm@ncsu.edu (Hal G. Meeks) writes:
>> A lot of people that I've talked to about tires have spoken highly of Yoko
>> A509's as well. Unfortunately, I needed money for other things at the time,
>> and couldn't afford the extra expense. 

>I had an '85 VW Jetta GLI with Yokohama AVS Intermediates, size 195/60VR14.
>These tires were excellent! Made the car stick to the road like glue.

>The only problem was tire wear- they only lasted about 20K, with two or three
>months off each year when I had snow tires on.

yeah, the AVS-I is like that; it is a very sticky dry pavement oriented
tire.  it should be considered an example of what yokohama produces for
ultimate dry pavement stick in a street tire (as opposed to the A008RS,
which is an example of what they produce for ultimate stick on dry pavement
in a short lived street legal race tire.)  it should _NOT_ be considered
an example of what they consider a rain tire.

>When considering Yokohama tires, take into account that they have a reputation
>for being only mediocre in wet conditions. They are nearly unmatched in dry
>weather.

my Yokohama A509s are actually a stunning rain tire; i'm quite happy with
them.  they are in the same ball park as the Nokia HTs i used to run,
but a better dry pavement tire for performance applications than the
Nokias.  i consider them a 3-season tire, and use true snows in the winter.

richard
-- 
richard welty                            518-393-7228
welty@cabot.balltown.cma.com
  ``if you can read this, mario, you're too close''
    -- bumper sticker seen on a CART safety truck
Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers
From: climan@byron.sp.cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Breaking in a new engine
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 23:27:35 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: usa
Originator: climan@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU

I just bought a new Saturn SL2 and was wondering what advice and evidence
people have about the value of not driving too fast for the first few
hundred miles.  

Dani Climan
climan@byron.sp.cs.cmu.edu

-- 
Dani Climan                          
climan@byron.sp.cs.cmu.edu
From: peterman@cs.utk.edu (John W. Peterman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: request for info: Eclipse
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:51:42 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - CS Department
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

I am considering purchasing a Mitsubishi Eclipse.  I would appreciate any
advice or comments, information on flaws or features, etc.

Thanks!

                                 John


-- 
e-mail address:                           John Peterman
peterman@cs.utk.edu                       Knoxville, TN

I think, therefore I am confused.  - Robert Anson Wilson
From: gbb@bnr.co.uk (Geoff Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: LK10's, TG-2's etc. (Soaring)
Date: 28 Jul 92 08:21:29 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex, UK

In <9207271322.AA06889@lri.uwo.ca> steckner@lri.uwo.ca (Michael Steckner) writes:

"|"  . . one club modified their two seaters
"|"such that the front stick was mounted on a spring. The two halves of the
"|"stick connected via a glass tube. If the student froze, a huge amount of
"|"force/override from the rear seat would crack the glass tube.

I believe the glass tube is replaced with a steel one for solo flying.
	Geoff Brown	E-mail: G.B.D.Brown@bnr.co.uk
			BNR Europe Ltd., London Road, Harlow, Essex
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
From: cosper@seq.uncwil.edu (Kit Cosper)
Subject: Re: twin-burner balloons
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:23:36 GMT

robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD)) writes:


>Yep - and if you figure out the horsepower of a balloon's "engine" based
>on the amount of thermal energy expended from that burner, you might find
>out that you have a lighter-than-air aircraft with an engine that would do
>a "heavy" some honor.  :-)


	Don't do that!  Next thing you know there will be a 
	high performance balloon endorsement!  :-)


	Kit


-- 
   Kit Cosper                        cosper@seq.uncwil.edu         
   PP-ASEL-IA                        AMA 31022
From: aland@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Aland Adams)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:32:22 GMT
Subject: Re: GLIDER: POST task? (was Re: Re: SOARING: 15m Nats in Minden)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
From: glenda@escoria.lanl.gov (Glenda McGrath)
Subject: Re: Manufacturer being sued _for_no_reason_
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:55:31 GMT

In article <Brst3z.BqL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> rls@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu (Ray Swartz (Oh, that guy again)) writes:

> and their mother, Martha. ``All things point to pilot error but
> nevertheless we have brought suit against the manufacturers.''


People will sue anybody and everybody if they think they can get some
money.  A number of years ago a twin engine cessna(?) crashed in
Albuquerque.  Reason for crash was the pilot had failed to close and
lock a front storage compartment in which he had stored a number of
pair of skis.  Shortly after take off the door opened, the skis fell
out hitting one of the props and either causing the engine to fail or
at least stutter, the pilot was unable to maintain control and the
plane crashed into a freeway right next to the airport.  All parties
on board were killed.  The family of the pilot sued:

   1.  Cessna for not making a plane which could withstand
       the force of the crash.
   2.  The city for allowing an airport to operate next to 
       a freeway
   3.  The state for building a freeway next to an active 
       airport
   4.  And get this the manufacturer of the skis because 
       they were capable of causing an engine to fail
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
From: exumfs@exu.ericsson.se (Mark Steph, XT/DO, x7534)
Subject: Re: ARSAs etc., (was "remain clear of the
Reply-To: exumfs@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:30:41 GMT

In article 26028@ccad.uiowa.edu, yiannis@ccad.uiowa.edu (Yiannis Papelis) writes:
[good advice deleted]
>to the frequency.   The second way is by using a computer simulations of
>ATC.  There are both commercial, shareware and public domain ATC simulators.
>Give them a try, and believe me, it is NOT easy !!!
>
>-- 
>Yiannis E. Papelis,            - Electrical & Computer Engineering, U of Iowa
>Center of Computer Aided Design- Home of the Iowa Driving Simulator & future
>e-mail: yiannis@ccad.uiowa.edu - home of the National Advanced Driving Simulator

Try TRACON, from Wesson International. This is an excellant simulation
and it will make you sweat! Do NOT buy Tracon for windows--this version
does not work very well (unless they have fixed alot of bugs since I 
bought it.)

It will also link up via modem with MS flight sim., so you can vector
your friends around.
---
Mark Steph               | You don't get something for nothing
exumfs@exu.ericsson.se   | You don't get freedom for free
(yes, .se *is* in Texas) | You won't get wise with the sleep still in your eyes
PO Box 833875, MS L-05   | No matter what your dream might be
Richardson, TX 75083     |      -Neil Peart, "Something for Nothing"
From: ludeman@astroatc.UUCP (Weekend Pilot)
Newsgroups: rec.aviation
Subject: Re: Wave from wind sheer?
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:51:09 GMT
Reply-To: ludeman@astroatc.UUCP (Weekend Pilot)
Organization: Astronautics Technology Cntr, Madison, WI

In article <1992Jul29.103247.19079@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> kaye@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Kaye Stott) writes:
>
>Has anyone else experienced such unexpected [flatland] wave?
>
Sure.  Here in Wisconsin sometime in February I was fooling around
on one of my PPSEL cross countries and I encountered an area of wave
activity about thirty or so miles across.  Winds were Northerly
aloft and N.Westerly on the ground as I recall.  I was flying more or
less due South at 4500 msl and noticed sort of ragged lennies at maybe
8000' oriented E-W.  Air was completely smooth.  With the putt-putt
(C152) trimmed out in cruise I experienced about 250 - 300 fpm climb
under the upwind edge of each of four sets of lennies and a similar
degree of sink downwind.  Very amusing to this hardcore soaring type
who was working on his PPSEL this winter mostly 'cause he was tired
of waiting for Spring thermals....

Terrain in the area of wave activity is not the sort that reliably
generates either ridge or wave lift, although there are some small
hills (none over 200').  The rather extended nature of this activity
also suggests that a purely atmospheric phenomenon was responsible.

When I told my CFI about all this he shook his head muttering something
about students that don't know how to maintain altitude and airspeed :-).
At least my glider flying friends believed me!


-- 
Evan Ludeman                    "Verbosity leads to unclear,
rutgers!cs.wisc.edu!               inarticulate things."             
astroatc!ludeman                    -- Mr. PotatoE Head