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From: jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond)
Subject: Re: framemaker
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 04:33:47 GMT
Organization: Dixie Communications Public Access.  The Mouth of the South.

larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

>jgd@dixie.com (John De Armond) writes:

>>There are a couple of things one can do about the price.  First off,
>>if you are at .edu site or have a friend who is, you can buy
>>the educational version for $200.  The only difference between
>>the two is the price.  I have that direct from Frame.

>Can one get the educational pricing for UNIX releases or only Windows?

That's for any version.  I chose Windows because all the rest of my 
publishing software also runs on (or should I say In spite of) windows.
Also, as I understand it, one version may be traded for another for
only the difference in price between them.  Thus when I decide which
platform will least expensively allow me to plug in 200 mb of RAM or so,
I can trade for that version.

'Nuther note about Frame.  The docs for MML and the API come on a disk.
The disk is free.  When I called last week to get it, they told me the next 
batch would not be in for about 6-8 weeks.  I told the lady that I was 
converting over from PageMaker and really needed the MML docs and asked could 
she pretty please with sugar on top try to find me a copy before then.  
It came yesterday.  I really like that kind of service.

John
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From: root@MADMAX.NCM.INTERLAN.COM (0000-Admin(0000))
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Emulating ANSI/vt100 on a System V 3.2 AT386 console (help)
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:14:08 GMT

Hi. Does anyone know of a way to emulate vt100 control/escape codes on a PC
running System V 3.2 on the console ? (AT386) It's a REAL pain to try to
use some of the various services out there on the net (not to mention non
System V hosts) and not have them recognize the AT386 terminal type, resulting
in totally botched screen handling..

If anyone knows a program, workaround, or fix for this please let me know...

Chris Patti
feoh@gnu.ai.mit.edu <-preferred
chrisp@ncm.interlan.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: adam@microware.com (Adam Goldberg)
Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Keywords: Diamond, free-software
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:58:59 GMT

harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:

>terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C) writes:

>>	If they aren't willing to open the box to check for documentation,
>>what makes you think they're going to take an opened box back when the
>>board isn't documented or is defective?

>Yeah, but what video card company (or SCSI card company, or sound card
>company, or ...) packages technical docs with their product?  None
>that I've seen...

Adaptec, actually.  A 1740 I recently bought (the EISA version of the 
1540) CAME WITH the technical manual.  I was slightly suprised, I figured
I would have to acquire the manual separately (but Adaptec will be happy
to send you a techincal manual--free, plus it's downloadable).  Ooops,
I guess this is off the subject, but what the hell.  :)'s to Adaptec.

-- 
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The above is not to be construed in any way as the official or unofficial
statements of Microware, or any Microware employees.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: sandy@godzilla.quotron.com (Sanford Zelkovitz)
Subject: Re: DELL SVR4 - separate /usr and /var filesystem?
Keywords: dell svr4 filesystem
Organization: Quotron Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:56:10 GMT

In article <Bu1xBv.HoL@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>
>>However, as anyone who is even moderately active in the USENET 
>>world knows, things change pretty quickly ... if you want to run 
>>the "latest and greatest", you're going to have to go out and
>>scrounge for the latest sources anyway, even though you've already
>>paid for them (hidden cost) when you bougt Dell!
>
>actually, Dell as compared against other SVR4 products is a deal --
>look at UHC for example, or even take ESIX -- the price for Dell
>is about what one would pay for a complete ESIX SVR4 and DOS Merge --

Larry, then why is Dell "such a bargain"? If the price for Dell is the same
as a complete ESIX SVR4 and Merge, then, if my logic is correct, ESIX is the
better value. Am I missing something?

>
>so look at your extras as freebes
>
>-- 
>Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
>keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry



Sanford <sandy> Zelkovitz


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From:  pzz@labtam.msk.su (Alexander Pevzner)
Subject: Coexisting DOS & UNIX (was Re Problems wits Interactive UNIX 3.0)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:09:12 GMT
Reply-To: pzz@labtam.msk.su
Organization: Soviet-Australian Joint Venture TERN

>In <8bnndwa.esprit@netcom.com> esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry) writes:
>
>>Problem 1.  The first partition on the disk is DOS.  The second partition
>>is UNIX.  When I try to boot from the DOS partition from the Interactive-
>>supplied boot program, the system does not come up.  It comes up fine
>>in Unix, though.  I am able to boot DOS from floppy, then access the DOS
>>partition, but this isn't very clean.  The DOS on the hard disk was
>>"SYS"ed from the floppy that I am booting from.  By the way, if it makes
>>a difference, it is DOS 3.3.
>
>I used to have similar problems. When I used the ISC boot program some DOS
>programs I ran were flakey and crashed. When I booted from a floppy, all was
>well. This was with Compaq Dos 3.31. My problems went away after I installed
>DOS 5 on the hard disk.
>


	Hi!
	You can Boot from Dos partition by setting this partition
to be active. You can do it with programm fdisk wich avaliable 
under DOS and ISC UNIX. The UNIX version lives in directory /etc
and is very similar to MeSsy-DOS one.
	ISC UNIX really has a strange problems with DOS
partitions. If you will install UNIX first, and will make partitions
by it's own fdisk (i.e. you'll make DOS partition on the beggining of
disk and install UNIX to the rest of the disk), it WILL work ok.
This is a magic and I don't know the reasons of it.

			Best Wishes.
			Alexander Pevzner.
			pzz@labtam.msk.su
			Russia, Moscow.


Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: jle9162@zeus.tamu.edu (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: mix simulator
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:26:00 GMT

  Any of you 'guru/wizards' know of a mix simulator? C source would be
nice but anything is fine.

  Sure this isn't the group, but I couldn't find comp.Knuth!

jason.
From: maziere1@husc8.harvard.edu (David Mazieres)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: >16MB on a 486
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:18:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Sep14.201817.15594
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <2669@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>maziere1@husc8.harvard.edu (David Mazieres) writes:
>
>>The man page says of the 0/1 flag:
>>     "0 indicates no special properties and 1 indicates memory for which
>>      DMA is not allowed."
>
>If you would, what man page for what system? I don't see this of ISC 3.2. 
>

OK sorry, I sort of cheated.  Actually that was the SVR4 man page.  However,
I used to use a DELL SVR3.2 that said the same thing.  In fact, as I recall,
the boot file had 16M-64M:1 by default.  I wondered what that meant and read
the man page to find out, which is how I knew what it meant even before I
went looking for an appropriate quote from the SVR4 man page.

Here's another interesting point, though.  The Consensys V4 default is
...1M-15M:0,16M-15M:1.  Is there some reason for disabling DMA in the last
megabyte?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: advice on DAT drives
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:39:37 GMT
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI

In article <2AB38451.2915@telly.on.ca> evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:
>data-transfer rates than DATs. They're also considerably cheaper than DATs.
>(Well, the drives are. The 1.3GB media is a bit more expensive than DATs).

How much more expensive?  If prices on DC6250 tapes are any guideline,
the media costs will be *substantially* more expensive for QIC than
for DAT.  A single DC6250 cartridge costs between $23 and $30,
depending on what brand you buy and how many you buy.  DAT tapes, on
the other hand, cost around $5-$10.  A media price difference of
$10/tape can very quickly eat up a $200-$300 drive price difference if
you have a medium- to large-sized number of tapes.

-- 
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mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us   | Only a real man would use a GUI where the
                            | shift keys after "Alt" are "Super" and "Hyper."
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: oklein@smallo.bo.open.de (Olaf Klein)
Subject: Re: Problem with C-News under SCO-UNIX
Organization: smallo.bo.open.de Fido-SubNet-Gate : 2:245/5800.12
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:31:03 GMT

>>the Subject says it. I'm having a problem posting news from accounts
>>other than root.
>>When I call inews as non Superuser everything seems to work fine but
>>after a moment I recive the message:
>>  date: no TOY clock
>>Does someone out there knows the problem and have fixed it ?
>>My configuration : SCO UNIX 3.2.2 + Dev 3.2.2

The problem is the entry in /etc/default/lang. 
date looks there for a language style to use for output.
change the entry LANG= to LANG=english_us.ascii and every thing is ok.
( If you want a german Unix, buy Eurix :-) )

Bye, Olaf

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: bobs@moo.org (Bob Smith)
Subject: Re: SCO-UNIX / F12 boot-problem
Reply-To: bobs@moo.UUCP (Bob Smith)
Organization: World Wide User Group (WWUG)
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:48:47 GMT

In article <3278@ariadne.csi.forth.GR> costis@csi.forth.gr (Costis Aivalis) writes:
>
>Hi there!
>
>Does anybody know what could be the matter:
>
>at boot time, before recognizing the disk, SCO-UNIX stops at F12
>and freezes after saying...
>	   WARNING wdha_out  commannd  byte 01 rejected
>           WARNING wdha_out  commannd  byte 07 rejected
>
>Equipment: Mylex MWS-386DX25 Cache
>           UltraStor U12F
>           Micropolis 1664-7 ESDI
>           Imprimis Wren III
>           Tseng ET4000
Do you have a Western Digital Controller?


Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: kunkee@ferranti.com (randy kunkee)
Subject: Re: kermit alternatives
Organization: Unix/Xenix Support Group
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:35:16 GMT

>From article <Btnu6G.AI2@chinet.chi.il.us>, by les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell):
>
> Is there any way to use MSDOS kermit as a transport for a full-machine
> backup?  With the unix version you can pipe cpio or tar's output
>

You would be trying to do something that Kermit was never intended
to do.  Granted it could be done ....

Buy a tape drive for your system to back up your files
locally, or get Ethernet (thin-net stuff is real cheap).

You'll be much happier in the end.  You may also be surprised, that
it will save you $$$ in the end.  Most certainly it will save you
time.
-- 
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Ferranti International Controls Corporation
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: jle9162@zeus.tamu.edu (ECKHARDT, JASON LEE)
Subject: X libs for SCO unix
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:33:00 GMT

 I'm running SCO UNIX 3.2.2 with the Development system. I have X windows
running and the X11R4 server upgrade supplement. I want to now do X development
but my dev. system does not have libX11.a, etc.
So eventually I found some libraries compiled for SCO but unfortunately they
need libsocket.a which also does not come with my development system!
My question, then, is where can I find the X libraries compiled for SCO 3.2.2
that don't need libsocket.a? I am only running this on my machine and net-
working isn't important.

Thanks, Jason.

P.S. don't tell me to buy the ODT development system or TCP/IP development
system...I know about them...I can't afford anymore SCO products!
From: wjk@Phonogenic.COM (Bill Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: want terminfo source for VT320 entry(ies)
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:41:17 GMT
Reply-To: wjk@Phonogenic.COM (Bill Keenan)
Organization: Phonogenic Systems Corporation
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

I am looking for the terminfo source (ready to be tic'd) of a VT320. I
would like to have the source for the "definative" VT320 ":)" which is
to say if any of my VT320 emulations don't work -- the emulator is
defective - not the terminfo entry.

Bill

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: slangley@constant.demon.co.uk (Simon Langley)
Subject: Re: >16MB on a 486
Organization: Home
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 14:09:41 GMT

Roger Schwarze (rsw@uniware.de) wrote:
: 
: you have to modify /stand/boot, see 'man boot' for details.
: 
It appears that the MEMRANGE entry was incorrect (as maziere@husc.harvard
pointed out to me in mail), unfortunately changing it to

MEMRANGE=0K-640K:0,1M-16M:0,16M-64M:1

has had no effect as far as I can tell.

-- 
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   Hampstead, London                             slangley@cix.compulink.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: ed@maxed (Ed Whittemore)
Subject: Re: Interactive Unix & Dos
Organization: American Micro Group, Inc., Ft. Lee NJ
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:43:22 GMT

Duane Charron (duane@intermec.com) wrote:
: 
:  We are getting Interactive Unix for A project I am working on.  I know
: that it will soon be phased out, but for the price it seemed a 
: good alternative.  We also use a number of suns here. And Sunsoft told
: me we can upgrade to solaris when it is available.  The question I
: have is: does Interactive allow a Dos boot from a partition the way
: SCO does.  If so does it have the 32MB partition size limitation?
: 
: 					Duane.

First of all, who told you ISC was going to be phased out? It's not;
there will be a ver. 3.01 series in addition to Solaris 2.0 for
at least 3 years, according to SunSoft.

Next, you can have any size DOS partition you want, and you can
access it under ISC Unix 3.01 by mounting the partition as
a Unix supported file system. If you want to mount it under VP/ix
you must still restrict it to 32 MB, however, that restriction
is to disappear under the next release. You can also boot any size
DOS partition from the boot menu.
-- 
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From: mike@adpgate.UUCP ( ADP OPuS)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: SCO+FutureDomain
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:56:11 GMT
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

I have installed SCO UNIX system V ver 3.2.4 and _every_
time I go through either shutdown or haltsys , take down my 
machine (i.e. power down), when I come back up I either have:

	 a. corrupted root file system that must be fixed
		with fsck (booting my machine automatically 'determines' this)
 or  b. I simply can't boot at all, I stop on "J", which is the last
		thing before the boot-disk  boots.

	 does anyone have a similar problem, I have this configuration:
		   386-25sx; FutureDomain TMC885 controller, Maxtor 3280xt drive(s)

any feed back would be appreciated...thank you

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From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: New UNIX Press SVR4 books -- what changed, where to buy?
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:45:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Enterprise Technology Center, Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: aland@infmx

I just noticed in a bookstore last week that there appears to be a new series
of the UNIX Press SVR4 manuals (with a primarily white background instead of
the old "spacey" blue).  The few books they had didn't clearly indicate whether
these covered 4.0.4 or not, or what exactly changed in the new series.  I was
about ready to buy several of the manuals; obviously, if this is a new series,
I'd rather get the current stuff.

Also, are there any discount sources for the books?  None of the discount
bookstores here carries them, and the regular bookstores who do won't discount
them, even if bought in quantity.  (Tower discounts everything 10%, but they
only have a few of the manuals.)   Mail order, perhaps?

Thanks in advance.

--
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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
Subject: Re: HOW WILL DOS BE HANDLED UNDER SVR4.2 ??
Keywords: DOS VP/ix?? merge??
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:49:56 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Sep9.022450.16386@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>, corey@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (william.c.brown) writes:

| 	Do current UNIX systems, i.e. ESIX, DELL, etc... have good
| 	support for DOS type program??? I suspect a dual boot
| 	set-up is probably what I will have to settle for.
| 
| 	Can anyone shed some light on?

  Dell includes DOSmerge. SCO bundles DOSmerge with ODT, and sells VP/ix
separately. Merge seems better for a lot of things, but for running
programs which go directly to the screen memory, running on the whole
screen without translation, VP/ix still seems faster based on some
measurements we've done. Non-trivially faster, actually.

  I can't say much about this because I don't know the non-d status, but
I believe you will see a product which will run windows 3.1 in standard
mode, under UNIX, announced before the end of the year. You might see it
announced at UNIX-Expo, I just don't know what the plans are.

-- 
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    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: DELL SVR4 - separate /usr and /var filesystem?
Keywords: dell svr4 filesystem
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:03:36 GMT

evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch) writes:

>An ESIX unlimited user licence with development system, sells for under
>$650US. Add XFree86 and you've got a fairly complete system, still $650,

At this price, it is about 1/2 the price of DELL!  It's getting to the point
where it is hard to even compare DELL and ESIX!  Aside from getting a bunch
of FREE Public Domain tools (and Merge), I'm not sure I see how DELL could
be worth DOUBLE the price.  Is it really?  Is it *that* much more stable
than ESIX?  (Stability is one of my key concerns, not lots of stuff I can
get nearly for free anyway).


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386
From: jhpb@sarto.budd-lake.nj.us (Joseph H. Buehler)
Subject: Re: advice on DAT drives
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:17:12 GMT

In article <Bu5G3C.1Bv@constant.demon.co.uk> slangley@constant.demon.co.uk (Simon Langley) writes:

	   1)	bearing in mind that my main criterion is tape size, is my
		   choice of DAT sensible?

DAT tapes hold about 1200 megabytes on a 60 meter tape, 2000 megabytes
on a 90 meter tape.

	   2)	will any DAT drive work on my SVR4 486 system (in theory)?

Don't buy anything you can't return, is my finest advice.  There's a
company that advertises in Computer Shopper, called APS.  When I
bought my DAT from them, they had a 30 day money back policy.

	   3)	am I likely to be able to swap tapes with other users who have
		   DAT and restore them on my machine?

Yes, as long as you don't use proprietary compression schemes.  I
wrote a tape on my ESIX system and was able to read it nicely on an HP
9000 workstation, using an HP DAT drive.

	   4)	what drives are out there that are cheap but work?  (BTW I
		   shall probably be buying from the US as prices are much lower
		   so a US supplier would be fine.)

A couple popular manufacturers are WangDAT (now part of Wangtek, I
think, or however you spell that) and Archive.  I have a WangDAT 2000
running quite nicely under ESIX 4.0.3A with an Adaptec 1740 SCSI card
in enhanced mode.

	   5)	Will I necessarily need a SCSI interface for a DAT drive?

Hmmm.  I don't know that you can buy one without it.

I had a number of problems with my DAT drive, because of flakiness in
my SVR4's SCSI code, and bug(s) in the Adaptec 1740.  My only problem
at the moment is that trying to read past end-of-tape is guaranteed to
completely and permanently hang (unkillably) the process that is
reading from the tape drive.  This could be corrected in the SCSI
driver easily enough, but who has time to disassemble SCSI drivers?  I
just add a few cpio'd /dev/nulls at the end of the tape and use that
for end of tape markers.

Whatever you buy, make sure you test it thoroughly for data errors
before you settle on it.  I had one combination that had low frequency
data errors.  I did a byte by byte compare with a program that
generated random data streams to determine this...