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From: KLASSEN@UVVM.BITNET (Melvin Klassen)
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Subject: Re: Using CHARACTER arrays
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:00:00 GMT
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On Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:00:00 BST, David Adams <CPI025@IBM.SOTON.AC.UK> wrote:
> Is this the way a Fortran program should behave?
Yes.  Both Versions 1.4.1 and 2.5.0 behave as expected.
>
>      CHARACTER*1 BLOCK(6)
>      INTEGER                   VECTOR(3)
>                  BLOCK(1)= '9'
>                  BLOCK(2)= '7'
>                  BLOCK(3)= ' '
>                  BLOCK(4)= '5'
>                  BLOCK(5)= ' '
>                  BLOCK(6)= '1'
>      WRITE(*,1)  BLOCK
>            READ (BLOCK,*)      VECTOR
>      WRITE (6,2)               VECTOR
>      STOP
>1     FORMAT ('  INPUT: ',6('<',A,'>',1x) )
>2     FORMAT (' OUTPUT: ',3I4.4)
>      END
>
The output is:
   <9> <7> < > <5> < > <1>
 0009 0007 0005
You seem to want: "0097 0005 0001", right?)

You are reading an "internal-file" which consists of **six** rows,
and each row contains **one** column.

The list-directed READ statement reads each logical record in the file.
If the record is blank, it is skipped.
If the record is non-blank, then the entire logical record,
i.e., all **one** byte of it, is converted to a numeric value.

You seem to desire that the list-directed READ will **concatenate**
consecutive input records, i.e., merge the '9' and '7' records,
in order to get the numeric value '97', right?
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From: FC138001@ysub.ysu.edu (Phil Munro)
Subject: Re: Using CHARACTER arrays
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:02:05 GMT

In article <28_Aug_92_17:00:00_BST_#5599@UK.AC.SOTON.IBM>
David Adams <CPI025@IBM.SOTON.AC.UK> writes:
 
>As given it works fine with FORTVS2, however change the declaration
>of BLOCK from  CHARACTER*24 to CHARACTER*1 BLOCK(24) and the output
>is not what I would expect.  My question is: is this the way a Fortran
>program should behave, or is it a bug specific to FORTVS2 (Releases 3 & 4)?
>
>      CHARACTER*1 BLOCK(24)
>*     CHARACTER*24 BLOCK
>      INTEGER N(6)
>      OPEN (UNIT=1,FILE='/PART BITMAP A',FORM='UNFORMATTED')
>      READ (1) BLOCK
>      WRITE (6,1) BLOCK
>      READ (BLOCK,*) N
>      WRITE (6,2) N
>      STOP
>1     FORMAT ('  input: ',24A)
>2     FORMAT (' OUTPUT: ',6I4)
>      END
>
>The data file PART BITMAP consists of one line:
>
>  3   1  12  13  14  15
>
>The output is consistent when the numbers are all less than 10.
 
  You are reading each number with a one-byte variable, and a number
greater than 9 has two bytes.  Therefore, only one byte of those numbers
is read.  The blanks serve to separate the input values.
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:44:02 EDT
From:         "Richard A Nelson (Rick)" <cowboy@VNET.IBM.COM>
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Re:   SCENAD and VS FORTRAN 2.5 incompatibility
Ref:  Your note of Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:14:00 CDT

I'm posting this instead of a direct reply because I think
others may be interested in what is going on...

The problem is almost certainly that SCENAD is ATTACHing your
program without setting up the library containing your program
as a TASKLIB.

There have been many application drivers that fail to pass the
datasets as TASKLIBs - any of these will fail with VSF 2.5.0.

You can:
   1) Get SCENAD changed to pass the dataset containing your
      program as a TASKLIB on the ATTACH

   2) Get VSF 2.5 changed to look at higher TASKLIBs, although
      this isn't a complete solution...  If the dataset containing
      your program isn't in ANY TASKLIB.

   3) Add the dataset containing your program to the FORTLIB
      DD contatenation (or create a FORTLIB DD pointing to
      only your dataset)

Rick Nelson
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:31:41 TUR
From:         Aykut ERAL <AYKUTE@TRMETU.BITNET>
Subject:      A 3270 emulator

  We have a Cyber 932/31 mainframe running TCP/IP which we want to connect

to an IBM 3090 mainframe which is also running TCP/IP.Our aim is to access

to IBM 3090 applications from PCs ,Macs, and terminals connected to CDCNET

TDI.Are there any 'IBM 3270 terminal emulation' or 'terminal defination

procedures' support on the CYBER 932/31 mainframe for this purpose ?

  Thanks ,

    Aykut Eral
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From:         MADMO@BANRUC60.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Test only. Fock

Hi Falko,
        received your test message. How are you ?
        As you probably know, we are no CDC-site anymore. We are now fighting
        with the terribly messy UNIX system.
        But portable and standard (?@!) as they say.
Best Regards
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:42:30 -0400
From:         rich@JULIAN.UWO.CA
Subject:      Re: fortran v file output with nos 2
              26 Aug 92 15:52:18 EDT." <9208262030.AA01111@julian.uwo.ca>

On Wed, 26 Aug 92 15:52:18 EDT
"A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL> said:

> Any computer system that substitutes the use of the comma key
> for the use of the space bar is in my mind suspect.  Maybe one of the
> designers broke their right thumb but still had a good middle finger on that
> hand.
> As for enlisting cryptographers, I don't need to since I studied the
> subject for a few years in the past.
> I don't believe however that the two sciences should mingle
> either on the manual level or user level since in the first
> instance productivity gets cut down and in the second
> utility gets cut down.
>
> If I remember properly I think I heard that unix was written by
> programmers and nos by accountants in the days when memory and computer
> resources were prohibitive.
> I w  was told that unix took a weekend for the core to
> be written and six programmers.  It would be interesting to know
> how many and how long for nos v2.0.
>
> jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>

uhhhhhhhh, right.  good argument.
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From:         Dan Wing <DWING@UH01.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      Obsolete CDC 990
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Posted to:  CYBER-L@BITNIC.BITNET and OPERS-L@AKRONVM.BITNET

A department has purchased a new Unix system which will replace the following
equipment.  If you have a use for this equipment, or would like more
information, please contact me at the following Email address or phone number.

  Control Data model 990 computer and disk drive (not sure of disk model)
  A dozen or so Texas Instruments terminals, OPTI 900's, model 931
  Several Texas Instruments printers, OMNI 800, model 850

Thank you,

-Dan Wing, DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU or WING_D@UCOLMCC.BITNET (DGW11)
 Systems Programmer, University Hospital, Denver
 303-355-7040
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:23:58 -0700
From:         Ernest Simard <simard@SONOMA.EDU>
Subject:      Spare Parts
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              @mvax.Sonoma.EDU

Sonoma State has gone to self maintenance and has the following
surplus boards for our 830:
#    cdc pn       descript
8    53702671     0dph 1mb memory
2    19269223     1dd0 mem data pak
3    67185313     ids adapter
2    19269031     1ch0 channels
4    19268827     1df0 register file
4    19269224     1dr0 control store
4    19269179     1dw0 map/data-clk fno
1    20296218     2617-1 v.35 lim
1    10303243     lim-dce v.35 cable
2                 main power transformers
2                 battery packs

We would like to trade/barter/beg/steal even buy (if the price is right):
1    24670813     3hbh 4mb memory pwa
1    19268484     1cj0 chanels 14,15,17

Hopefully Ernie
Simard@Sonoma.Edu
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 13:42:30 EDT
From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      fortran v file output with nos 2
Comments: To: cyber-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

I did fortran with some other systems and am having no luck with file output
on cyber computers.  The file that i'm writing out to is sequential since
it's a report file.  I define the file with the
call pf subroutine in the program since each time this program runs
it is intended to make a new version of this output file.
All I can get is one record in the file with no useful output on it
that's what view tells me.

I think there's a bit more to writing out on mass storage for sequential
files than was the case on vax and honeywell systems.
If anybody knows what I'm leaving out who's reading this note please let
me know what it is I'm leaving out and why this is important with this
kind of system.
I'm using a write statement to do an unformatted write to unit 4 which
i have defined like:
      call pf('define','tape4','list1','rc','irc','na','ina')
The format statement is:
   2 format(a)
and the actual write statement is:
      write(4,2) oneline

I have managed to make the information in oneline go out to the screen from
a known file in an earlier program but am having trouble making it write
to disk.

We have the fortran reference manual on screen as well as
the fortran user's guide but neither is much help and both
I think were written by cryptographers.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
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From:         Falko.Fock@HRZ.UNI-GIESSEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      Test only. Fock

Fo.
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:32:00 EDT
From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      cyber fortran v is arbitrary
Comments: To: cyber-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

I found out that if I remove any define statement
from the program for an output file and simply refer to the
unit number cyber fortran v writes my output to a file
called in this case since I was using unit 4 tape4.
Fortunately i'm not using tape4 for anything else in
the project.  Had I been doing so, this could have
caused loss of data and serious problems.

Can anybody tell me is this also part of the ansi standard or did the geniuses
over at CDC dream this one up themselves?

<dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil>
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:51:12 EDT
From:         "Stephen O. Lidie" <lusol@TURKEY.CC.LEHIGH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: cyber fortran v is arbitrary
Comments: To: CYBER-L@uga.cc.uga.edu
              Aug 26, 92 9:32 am

>
> I found out that if I remove any define statement
> from the program for an output file and simply refer to the
> unit number cyber fortran v writes my output to a file
> called in this case since I was using unit 4 tape4.
> Fortunately i'm not using tape4 for anything else in
> the project.  Had I been doing so, this could have
> caused loss of data and serious problems.
>
> Can anybody tell me is this also part of the ansi standard or did the geniuses
> over at CDC dream this one up themselves?
>
> <dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil>
>

All FORTRANs do essentially that, whether it be named tape4, fort.4, fort4.dat
or whatever ...

SOL
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:04:36 -0400
From:         rich@JULIAN.UWO.CA
Subject:      Re: fortran v file output with nos 2
              25 Aug 92 13:42:30 EDT." <9208261828.AA20766@julian.uwo.ca>

On Tue, 25 Aug 92 13:42:30 EDT
"A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL> said:

> I did fortran with some other systems and am having no luck with file output
> on cyber computers.  The file that i'm writing out to is sequential since
> it's a report file.  I define the file with the
> call pf subroutine in the program since each time this program runs
> it is intended to make a new version of this output file.
> All I can get is one record in the file with no useful output on it
> that's what view tells me.
>
> I think there's a bit more to writing out on mass storage for sequential
> files than was the case on vax and honeywell systems.
> If anybody knows what I'm leaving out who's reading this note please let
> me know what it is I'm leaving out and why this is important with this
> kind of system.
> I'm using a write statement to do an unformatted write to unit 4 which
> i have defined like:
>       call pf('define','tape4','list1','rc','irc','na','ina')
> The format statement is:
>    2 format(a)
> and the actual write statement is:
>       write(4,2) oneline
>
> I have managed to make the information in oneline go out to the screen from
> a known file in an earlier program but am having trouble making it write
> to disk.
>
> We have the fortran reference manual on screen as well as
> the fortran user's guide but neither is much help and both
> I think were written by cryptographers.

but not the same cryptographers you enlisted to help you word the above note?

>
> jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>

perhaps one of the "geniuses" over at cdc can tell you....
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 10:40:52 EDT
From:         "Stephen O. Lidie" <lusol@TURKEY.CC.LEHIGH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: fortran v file output with nos 2
Comments: To: CYBER-L@uga.cc.uga.edu
              26, 92 5:00 pm

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil> does some NOS and CDC bashing (deleted) ...

It may be that your environment has prevented you from seeing a bigger picture.
NOS is old and NADC is essentially stuck with NOS because of a quarter century
of accumulated mods to the operating system, mostly in COMPASS (at least that
was the case when I worked there).  Trying to retro-fit tens of thousands of
lines of code into a new version of your OS and keep the Navy happy is no easy
task.  And moving to a modern operating system seems out of the question.

Rather than picking on NOS, learn about its worthy successor NOS/VE - CDC has
done marvelous work here.  Bashing VE will be much harder indeed.

>If I remember properly I think I heard that unix was written by
>programmers and nos by accountants in the days when memory and computer
>resources were prohibitive.
>I w  was told that unix took a weekend for the core to
>be written and six programmers.  It would be interesting to know
>how many and how long for nos v2.0.

And the remnants of Unix 20 years later looks like 6 people wrote it!  At
least NOS supports real tape activities :-).  NOS/VE makes some versions of
Unix look like a pitiful play-toy ...

Of course, I have made a mistake when I used the singular of Unix as there is
no such beast, just an ever-increasing horde of Unices, or U*x or whatever.
All this to correct deficiencies in the original.  Some vendors do a much
better job of producing an 'industrial strength' U*x than others, notably CDC,
Convex, Cray and others where performance counts.  But I digress.

Now look what you've done - I'm U*x bashing!   (-:

Take care,

Steve
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:00:50 EDT
From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: fortran v file output with nos 2
Comments: To: CYBER-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

I don't have a problem with systems that restrict lengths
of file names I just wish they would have something
on the system where some descriptive comments could be
associated with the file names.  msdos has things like dirnotes and
I suppose it would be possible to make something that could
read in a cyber directory of file names just
before log out and have the system show the user
the names of new files and have it ask for descriptors for
each of them.  Probably would have to mix
fortran and assembler to get it done on this kind of system.
Among programmers who have been programmers for a while strange punctuation
isn't so unusual and I suppose we're lucky it was IBM who mass
marketed the computer rather than CDC since had CDC done it
with nos they could provide some nice editors but much of the rest of the
system even on a micro level would probably be nearly inaccessible.
Computer phoebia is bad enough among the general public even with msdos based
computers and the high number of computers not in use in this
country on a daily basis proves this point.

If I do get something like a dirnotes program working for the cdc i'll share
the ideas that made it possible the rest will be up to interested parties
if they still exist.

<dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil>

We work on these machines we don't normally study their history.
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:52:18 EDT
From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: fortran v file output with nos 2
Comments: To: CYBER-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

Any computer system that substitutes the use of the comma key
for the use of the space bar is in my mind suspect.  Maybe one of the
designers broke their right thumb but still had a good middle finger on that
hand.
As for enlisting cryptographers, I don't need to since I studied the
subject for a few years in the past.
I don't believe however that the two sciences should mingle
either on the manual level or user level since in the first
instance productivity gets cut down and in the second
utility gets cut down.

If I remember properly I think I heard that unix was written by
programmers and nos by accountants in the days when memory and computer
resources were prohibitive.
I w  was told that unix took a weekend for the core to
be written and six programmers.  It would be interesting to know
how many and how long for nos v2.0.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 09:46:37 CDT
From:         "John Matthews" <jkm@TAMARACK.CRAY.COM>
Subject:      Re: fortran v file output with nos 2
Comments: To: CYBER-L@vm.gmd.de

It's too bad though, that CDC was late with NOS/VE.  It might have had
a better reception.  Still don't like the long names, though!

John

		+--------------------------------------------+
		  John Matthews			jkm@cray.com
		  Cray Research, Inc.		612/683-5704
		+--------------------------------------------+
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From:         THOM@BDILUC01.BITNET
Subject:      Reply to Test only. Fock

Test received ok.
Did you already get your registration package ?

Marc

Marc Thoelen
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 11:04:33 EDT
From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: fortran v file output with nos 2
Comments: To: CYBER-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

No point in learning about systems when there's no access to them.

<dashiell@nadc.navy.navy.mil>
My kingdom for an operating system!
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From: SEB1525@MVS.draper.com (Steve Bacher)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM
Organization: Draper Laboratory
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:22:00 GMT

In article <IBM-MAIN%92082416152551@RUTVM1.BITNET>,
Stan Horwitz <V4039@VM.TEMPLE.EDU> writes:

>Is it possible to get these  CD-ROMS of IBM manuals, for BookManager perusal,
>to be read without BookManager? I guess I  am asking if we could use a Public
>Domain CD-ROM  reader for  this stuff  if one  exists. By  the way,  it would
>really be  nice to  read these  CD-ROMs on a  Macintosh, but  I have  a funny
>feeling that IBM would disagree.  :)

Likewise, it would be real nice to have an X interface.

In fact, a Gopher link would be ideal.

Any chance that IBM will open up the protocol/format of the stuff
so we can roll our own?

--
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Internet: seb@draper.com                Cambridge, MA, USA
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:41:53 -0400
From:         Doug Fraser <dfraser@MCMAIL.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      Re: MVS menus

We went to a session manager and a menu system several years ago and took
this opportunity to implement sign ons for every application.  Sign on is
a wonderfull thing which auditors and security people love.  I am not
either but also agree with sign on for everyone.

I suggest that you do some benchmarks on tcp/ip.  We did not implement the
first release of tcp/ip because of the cpu use.  We implemented the second
release of tcp/ip but the cpu use is measurable.  We will also carefully
benchmark the next release of tcp/ip we install.

Doug Fraser                         email: dfraser@mcmail.cis.mcmaster.ca
System Support Manager              phone: (416) 525-9140 ext 3868
Computing and Information Services  fax:   (416) 528-3773
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ontario
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 09:04:00 PDT
From:         Gregory Plucinski 257508 <GRZES@PLWATU22.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: VM ESA/370

 In general information IBM say that VM/ESA 370 feature
  is continuation of VM/SP 6 and VM/SP HPO 5 and VM/SP/XA
 I think that all features of VM/SP 6 is included in VM/ESA
Gregory
------------------------------TEXT-OF-YOUR-MAIL--------------------------------

> Since everyone seems to recommend running VM ESA/ 370 feature on
> my 4381-R14 instead of VM/SP rel 6 I need to know if Share File
> System is availble in ESA/370.  Also what type of performance
> can i expect from ESA/370.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:53:14 EDT
From:         INIST <UCAD331@FRORS12.BITNET>
Subject:      compress linklib

       Hello,

We are using MVS/XA 220 and I would like to compress my
SYSRES SYS1.LINKLIB.
Can't I use  IEBCOPY and REFRESH LLA ? If not,how I can compress my
Sys1.Linklib (and other linklist libraries) without disturbing my
production.
Thanks for Help.


              Michel VILLAUME
              Ing{nieur Syst}me at
      Institut de l'Information Scientifique et Technique
                  CNRS
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