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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 23:00:18 GMT
From:         Peter Flynn <pflynn@CURIA.UCC.IE>
Subject:      Re: Off Campus Access Policies
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              92 8:47 pm

>
> Our campus has an historic non-official policy of providing modem
> access to the campus network at no direct cost to the users.  However,
> with the increasing demand for off campus access to the campus, the
> increasing user base is quickly realizing that there is a shortage
> of modem ports in which to connect.

Snap.

> acccess to their network from faculty and staff at home.  Is this
> a feature that's available for free or at cost?  Is there a way
> to size the number of modem ports available?  Are there ways of
> determining demand for information servers from off-campus?  How
> many modems do other campuses have for general access?  Do other
> campuses require dedicated phone trunks to the campus for
> phone lines, and if so what's the ration?

Here in Cork we have (still) relatively few modem users for off-campus
use (I'm on one now). It will doubtless grow, but I have no way of
estimating growth, so our response will be 'on demand'. Right now it's
for free, 2400,n,8,1 only: four lines.

> p.s.  I left off the obvious questions regarding student access: do
> you allow off campus access to the campus by students?  If so, what
> are the numbers/ratios?  If students are treated differently than
> faculty/staff/administrators - what is the rationale?

Actually this was non-obvious to me: a remote user is a remote user is a
remote user: we don't discriminate between student and faculty access (we
*do* discriminate in the handing out of IDs---not my decision---in that
it's hard for a student to get an ID , the ratioanle being that we don't
have enough disk space or processor time, plus a residual feeling from
some staff that "students don't need/oughn't to want access" and that all
they would do would be clog the net with junk mail: IMHO a false view.)

///Peter
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From:         "Stephen J. Cavrak, Jr." <SJC@UVMVM.UVM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Graphic Depicting Use of Internet?

Ah ha !

It sounds like what you want is one of those Great Cloud in the Sky
pictures -- I "borrowed" one from one of those many networking and
computer news letters that bury my desk.

Alternatively, I put one together in a hypercard stack.  The
cloud was "hand drawn", but picts of Macs and PC's as well as
mainframes and minicomputers were pulled from one of the older
hypercard kits -- Sample Pics or something like that.

My graphic skills aren't too hot either -- I usually have to
explain that those squiggly lines represent a Great Cloud.
Users are tolerant of my attempts to be artistic -- so
maybe you can just draw up your own with your favorite cache
of clip art and some squiggly lines ...

Steve
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:32:46 EDT
From:         Richard W Wiggins <RWWMAINT@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Public Domain GIF viewers or code?

Could someone please suggest good public domain C source code to display
GIF files on PCs or other platforms? Alternatively, how about standalong
GIF viewers? I'm already aware of CSHOW and VPICT, which both have
problems for our application.

How about commercial products? Has anyone licensed any commercial
software to use with their CWIS?

Please reply to me privately, and I will summarize for the list. Thanks .

/Rich Wiggins, Gopher Coordinator, Michigan State U
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 12:37:08 EST
From:         "Stephen J. Cavrak, Jr." <SJC@UVMVM.UVM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Internet document and class handout for FTP

Re: Good Graphics for the Internet --

Several of the "network information centers" have documentation
available for anonymous ftp.

nis.nsf.net (a.k.a. nic.merit.edu) has several postscript maps in
their "maps" directory.  These include a "t1" (1.54 Mbps) and a "t3"
(40 Mbps) map.

nnsc.nsf.net has an "nsfmap.ps" in the "nsfnet" directory
as well as the Internet Tour Hypercard Stack.


Steve
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From:         Pooven Govender <GOVENDEP@CC.UND.AC.ZA>
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unsubscribe Pooven Govender (govendep@cc.und.ac.za)
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:12:57 CST
From:         "Terry D. Mathias (618) 453-7419" <GE0515@SIUCVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Diversity and Development of INTERNET

Rick Gates, well said ... the most prosaic description I've heard or
seen about an ever-changing, almost amorphous "system."  I too found
the HUNT intriguing, challenging, and frustrating -- especially since
it came at a busy time of year, and I couldn't devote any time to
satisfying my curiosity.   --Terry Mathias, S. Illinois University
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From:         "Peter Graham, Rutgers U., (908) 932-2741" <GRAHAM@ZODIAC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Apple Library's Network Citizen Awards for 1992

It's very pleasing to see Apple putting concrete support into network
activities that from its standpoint must be at a relatively low level.  Such
awards speak well for the recipients, all of whom on this round are very
worthy indeed, and for Apple as well.

--Peter Graham, Rutgers University
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:54:00 EDT
From:         JONESEL@APPSTATE.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Off Campus Access Policies

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     11-Sep-1992 08:09am EST
                                        From:     Ernest Jones
                                                  JONESEL
                                        Dept:     CAMS
                                        Tel No:   704 262 6276

TO:  VMSMail User _IN%"CWIS-L             ( _IN%"CWIS-L@WUVMD.BITNET" )


Subject: RE: Off Campus Access Policies

We have open telephone numbers for access to our system.  As the
interest in computers grow and we open up more information access to
world-wide computing facilities, our load has grown.  We have just
added 8 additional ports to bring our total to 24.  The new lines
support speeds to 9600.

Our new core curriculum requires computer knowledge in all areas
beginning this year, so we anticipate that we will need to add more
lines soon.

The numbers are on rotary and are available to students, faculty and
staff without constraint.  We do not charge for this service.

We also support 3 800 numbers for North Carolina primarily for use
by our College of Education to allow in-service teachers easy access
to e-mail and Notes for use in their classes.

We monitor the use of the lines and try to stay ahead of the demand.

Ernest L. Jones, Director                 JONESEL@APPSTATE.BITNET
Computer and Management Services          JONESEL@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU
Appalachian State University              Phone: 704 262-6276
Boone, NC  28608
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:15:29 PDT
From:         "Rick Gates" <LB05GATE@UCSBUXA.BITNET>
Subject:      Apple Library's Network Citizen Awards for 1992
              10 Sep 1992 14:05:54 -0700 <92091023

Three Cheers for the four recipients of the Apple Library's Network
Citizen Awards!  All of them have changed my life (and work), for the
better.  Thanks also to the Apple Library and Steve Cisler.
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Rick Gates                              (805) 893-7225
Dir. of Library Automation
Univ. of California                     lb05gate@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
Santa Barbara, CA  93106
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Subject: Re: Off Campus Access Policies
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:28:28 GMT
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The communications people on campus (not part of the Computing Center)
recently switched to a fee-based inbound modem service, much to the dismay of
 users.

The Computing Center has tried to continue free access to information
resources by providing a bank of free modems for our CWIS, which very
shortly will also include a serial client for POP mail servers.  We
have the modems set up on a single phone number.

So users here can send and receive email, use the campus calendar, the
newsreader, the online catalogue and timetable, and access our
gopher-like file system for free.

But we do not provide access to general purpose CPU cycles for free,
and probably won't.  There is simply no way to satisfy the demand for
this, and in my view, if you need cpu cycles, you ought to buy a computer.

In the future (and I'm not sure when that will be), I think that the
main business of  computing centers will not be to deliver cpu cycles
but to deliver access to information.  That's why the Eris system has
focused on information tools rather than general purpose capabilities
like telnet and VT100 interfaces.

Andrew Cohill
Eris:  The Virginia Tech Information System
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:33:47 EDT
From:         Richard W Wiggins <RWWMAINT@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Graphic Depicting Use of Internet?

>Several of the "network information centers" have documentation
>available for anonymous ftp.
>
>nis.nsf.net (a.k.a. nic.merit.edu) has several postscript maps in their
>"maps" directory. These include a "t1" (1.54 Mbps) and a "t3" (40 Mbps)
>map.
>
>nnsc.nsf.net has an "nsfmap.ps" in the "nsfnet" directory as well as
>the Internet Tour Hypercard Stack.
>
>Steve

Thanks for the pointers. I also stumbled on some good maps depicting
worldwide Usenet news flow at a site in Norway. (Unfortunately don't have
the node name handy, but Archie should be able to find the files somewhere.
Names are of the form "na-flow" for North America data flow. They show
dramtically how busy the net is.)

However -- this isn't exactly the sort of thing I have in mind. I'd like
a graphic that depicts the notion of arbitrary users running clients and
connecting to arbitrary services randomly dispersed across the Internet.
If I had better graphic skills I'd draw this up myself. If anyone has
this sort of diagram in their "Intro to the Internet" toolkit please
respond here or send me mail. Thanks.

/rich
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:48:06 -0500
From:         Ramakrishnan Balaji <barama@OASIS.CC.PURDUE.EDU>
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SSINFO is a computerized campus wide information system operated by the
Office of the Registrar.  It currently supports a number of applications
that are accessible to the public.  It is proposed to develop a system that
will enable a student to access and update their student records using a
terminal or a personal computer.  Students will be allowed to logon to
the system either from on-campus terminal clusters or remotely via dial-up
lines or the Internet. Once on the system the student will be allowed to
access restricted information by supplying a personally identifiable
number. r.

We are currently in the design stage and hope to implement a security
system for restricted student access in the next few months.  As part of
the development process we thought it would be nice to get some feedback
on the different system that are now available at various college campuses.
We would really appreciate any information that would help us in designing
a robust security system here at Purdue.

For financial/management reasons it will not be possible to set up accounts
for 30,000 + students that attend Purdue every year.  We would like to
set up a system that will enable a student to set up his/her own PIN
number.  What are the various ways in which this has been done.  We have
some ideas but we would like to know of some more so that we can choose
the best.


If you have any information that would be of help please do send e-mail to
barama@oasis.cc.purdue.edu

Thanks,

Balaji
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:05:00 EDT
From:         "Carrie.Heeter" <HEETER@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Campus Information Kiosks

Thanks -- I'll call her Monday.  I am already converting away from videodisc,
and also probably moving to SuperCard instead of Director.  But I would love
to have an optional link to gopher.
                                ch
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From:         George Yanos <U08208@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Off Campus Access Policies
              10 Sep 1992 20:47:51 PDT from <cook%bluemoon@HUB.UCSB.EDU>

Declare victory, buy more modems quick, and give yourself a raise.
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:18:13 EDT
From:         Bill Johnson <CCGWOJ@GSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Campus Information Kiosks

      At Georgia State University we are investigating the feasability of
 implementing a system of information kiosks around campus. I am interested in
 finding out what other schools have done in this area. It seems there was some
 discussion of this topic a few months back on CWIS-L. If your university has
 implemented such a thing I would appreciate a response giving a brief
 discription of the system. We are especially interested in systems that are
 attached to and derive information from a campus local area network.

      Also I would appreciate advice on where to look for relevent information,
 vedors, etc.

      Thanks for your help.

      William O. Johnson, Mgt. Information Specialist, WJOHNSON@GSU.EDU
      Georgia State University Computer Center, Atlanta, GA
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From:         Steve Cook <cook%bluemoon@HUB.UCSB.EDU>
Subject:      Off Campus Access Policies
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Comments: cc: cook@bluemoon.ucsb.edu

Our campus has an historic non-official policy of providing modem
access to the campus network at no direct cost to the users.  However,
with the increasing demand for off campus access to the campus, the
increasing user base is quickly realizing that there is a shortage
of modem ports in which to connect.

Why is being posted to the cwis-l list? Well, it seems that we've
been sucessful in increasing demand by supporting widespread use
of e-mail and increasing the participation in information on-line
thru gopher.

I would be interested in hearing how other campuses deal with
acccess to their network from faculty and staff at home.  Is this
a feature that's available for free or at cost?  Is there a way
to size the number of modem ports available?  Are there ways of
determining demand for information servers from off-campus?  How
many modems do other campuses have for general access?  Do other
campuses require dedicated phone trunks to the campus for
phone lines, and if so what's the ration?

Any light that you can shed on this would be helpful.  If the
response is revealing, I'll post results to the list.

Thanks
Steve Cook
cook@bluemoon.ucsb.edu
UC Santa Barbara

p.s.  I left off the obvious questions regarding student access: do
you allow off campus access to the campus by students?  If so, what
are the numbers/ratios?  If students are treated differently than
faculty/staff/administrators - what is the rationale?
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From:         Robert Clover <rclover@COSMOS.ACS.CALPOLY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Off Campus Access Policies
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              10, 92 8:47 pm

> I would be interested in hearing how other campuses deal with
> acccess to their network from faculty and staff at home.  Is this
> a feature that's available for free or at cost?
At Cal Poly we have about 90 modems accessible by a single phone
number.  Students, faculty, and staff, as well as anybody else is
able to easily get the number and dial in.  The only resources on
the network that don't require an account and password on a host
are the Library system and a telnet socket to our CWIS (cpnn).
We give accounts only to elegible students, faculty and staff.
Non campus people may apply for an account on our AIX system, but
they must be a K-12 educator, retired faculty living in the area,
or have good story that is sufficient to get my signature on
their application form, and the Vice-President's signature.

>Is there a way
> to size the number of modem ports available?  Are there ways of
> determining demand for information servers from off-campus?  How
> many modems do other campuses have for general access?  Do other
> campuses require dedicated phone trunks to the campus for
> phone lines, and if so what's the ration?

We have Pac Bell do a busy study of our modem lines 3-4 times a
year to get an idea of how many times all modems are in use and
users are denied access.  This seldom happens since we added the
last 10 modems, but we expect growth to force the issue of
whether to buy more soon.  We are experimenting with ISDN
from private homes, so that the users pay Pac Bell the costs of
data connectivity at home.  There are a lot of issues to be
explored there, however.
>
> p.s.  I left off the obvious questions regarding student access: do
> you allow off campus access to the campus by students?  If so, what
> are the numbers/ratios?  If students are treated differently than
> faculty/staff/administrators - what is the rationale?
>
We do have a few other modems for staff to get access to the
systems they have some responsibility for from home. These are
generally 9600 baud modems and the numbers are very private.
We also have a couple of 9600 baud modems for faculty access, but
we don't freely advertise the numbers.
Bob



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From:         Richard W Wiggins <RWWMAINT@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: RESULTS: First Internet Hunt

>The breadth of information accessible via the Internet is really quite
>impressive. I didn't enter the contest, but I would like to pose a
>question about the answers. How is someone who doesn't know the answer
>supposed to find the answer ? That is, if you know that exchange rates
>are posted on a server at Michigan, all well and good. If you do not
>know this factotum, how are you supposed to find it out. This to me is
>really more of a challenge than knowing the correct answers.

Well, that's our job as we build CWISes, isn't it? The operative
buzzword is "resource discovery". It seems there's two prongs of attack
in this area: folks in the Gopher community are trying to come up with
ways that we can coordinate our building of resource lists, so that we
have central registries of online resources. And, I understand the
Archie folks are defining a mechanism for information providers to post
descriptions of services, so that Archie becomes a searchable resource
guide, not just a tool to locate specific files posted for FTP.

There's a role for both browsable lists of resources (eg Gopher) and
resource databases that allow keyword searches (eg Archie).

The Internet hunt challenge gave us a few ideas for things to add to our
Gopher, that's for sure....

/Rich Wiggins, Gopher Coordinator, Michigan State U
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From:         SLATIN@UTXVM.BITNET
Subject:      Big Changes at UT Austin

Oh boy.  How to tell this one?

Late Tuesday, September 1, members of the English Dept at UT Austin received a
packet in their mailboxes announcing a major restructuring, to take effect
June 1, 1993:

From that point on, undergraduate writing courses at UT Austin will be the
responsibility of a new Division of Rhetoric and Composition, whose Director
(not yet named) will report directly to the Dean of the College of Liberal
Arts. There will be an Associate Director, a staff, a budget (no figures
available), faculty (some to be from the current English Dept, others
presumably to be recruited eventually from elsewhere), and I think some
lecturers (temporary faculty) as well-- again I don't have any idea how many.
As it stands now, the Computer Research Lab is to be within the administrative
purview of the new Division.

That's a very long document compressed into a nutshell, but I think I've got
the gist of it.  Details are still to be worked out by a process not yet
specified.  This is obviously a non-trivial development, so I wanted to bring
it to the attention of the larger community now, despite its being impossible
to predict the final arrangement of things.

John Slatin
UT Austin
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From:         ellis <nse2@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      convention/conference

When and where will the next annual meeting for this group be?
I attended the conference in Biloxi 2yrs ago and couldn't get funded
for last May's conference.... I'm trying to see if I can plan to the
next one?
Nancy Ellis
nse2@ra.mstate.edu
Mississippi State Univ
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From:         "David E. Schwalm" <IACDES@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Ice T and Murphy Brown

 *** Reply to note of 09/05/92 22:47
 Ice T and Canned-ice B will both collect their paychecks and spend them
 happily making the capitalist wheels go round. CB will not make the world a
 better place for single mothers, and IT's voice has already lost its
 authenticity. National commercial pop culture does not lead culture; it
 reflects a state of affairs already slipping into the past. By the way, what
 is priviledge WASP culture? The two national political conventions looked to
 me like two groups of WASPS very deeply divided culturally. What is privileged
 in the US (and most other places) is money--no matter who's got it. Give
 people disposable income, and family values will take care of themselves. May
 Ice T and Candice Bergen both have nice family values. Both can afford them.
 (One of the best comments on popular culture I know of is the Pythons' "Life
 of Brian.")

 -- David E. Schwalm, Assoc. Provost for Academic Programs
 ___Arizona State University West
 ___4701 West Thunderbird Rd.
 ___Phoenix, AZ 85069-7100___(602) 543-4500
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