HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu (Patrick Palmer)
Subject: Memory reallocation in HP95?
Keywords: HP95, memory, ram disk
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 18:12:32 GMT


Is it possible to increase the allocation of memory to the ram: disk
without backing up all user files and restoring them later?  The
manual describes the procedure for changing the allocations in a
simple way and then says to choose the option "reboot".  One could
imagine that if one only increased the allocation to ram: disk, the
user files would be unaffected.  One could also imagine that they
would be lost.  Could someone who has actually done this let me know?
(I plan to back them up anyway, but since my wife uses her HP95
every day, the time considerations about restoring everything matter.)

Also, for a 1 meg HP95, how little space can one safely leave for the
system if one does not run Lotus?

Pat Palmer (email: ppalmer@oskar.uchicago.edu)
From: roberts@luxor.crd.ge.com (Victor D Roberts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Connection an HP95 to a MAC
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:59:02 GMT
Organization: GE Corp. Research & Development, Schenectady, NY

In article <15AUG199212490822@vms.huji.ac.il> gilf@vms.huji.ac.il (GIL FREUND) writes:
>A friend (not on the net) asked me about connecting an HP95 to  a
>MAC.  According  to  the  Israeli  distributor,  there is no link
>package for the HP95 with a MAC.
>As  I  understand  both  the  HP95  and  the  MAC  support  RS232
>communication, and  both have  Kermit software  versions. What  I
>need is a  pin layout for  both computers. If  anyone has attempt
>such a connection, or knows the pin layout, I will make the cable
>myself and use Kermit.
>
........


I don't have the pin layout for the 95LX handy right now, but it is very
simple. There are four pins in the 95LX and it provides only the two basic
RS-232 signals - SEND and RECEIVE. The other two pins are signal ground and
protective ground. Using a voltmeter or RS-232 tester it should be easy
to isolate the send and reveice pins. Send me e-mail if you need more help.
-- 

Vic Roberts
GE Research and Development Center, Schenectady, NY
roberts@crd.ge.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: george@unixg.ubc.ca (George chow)
Subject: Re: 
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:48:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.042812.27458@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,  writes:
|> 
|> Scenario:
|> 512K HP 95LX
|> over 300K allocated to system RAM
|> ROM date 06-05-91 (based on dates of CHKDSK file)
|> 
|> Phone program accepts file of 48,961 bytes but
|> says out of memory on file of 48,980 bytes.
|> File created and edited with text editor on HP 95LX.
|> 
|> Is this a known limitation of the HP?  There is plenty of System RAM left.

I think this is a manifestation of the 8086/8's `64K barrier'? Can anyone
confirm this?

|> 
|> Is this problem fixed on a later version of the RAM?

It's a limitation of the program itself. Maybe Lotus needs to switch to
a larger memory model?

|> Arthur Keller
|> Stanford University
|> Computer Science Dept.
|> ark@db.stanford.edu

George
Xref: sparky comp.sys.palmtops:2668 comp.sys.handhelds:1859
From: beadle@otc.otca.oz.au (Peter Beadle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: WANTED: ATARI- P o r t f o l i o - U s e r g r o u p
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:23:27 GMT
Reply-To: beadle@otc.otca.oz.au (Peter Beadle)
Organization: R&D, OTC Sydney, Australia

This used to be one but technology seems to have left the Portfolio behind in both size and power.

comp.sys.palmtops used to have a lot of atari stuff

There is also an archive of public domain atari protfolio software for anonymous ftp at atari.archive.umich.edu

Regards
Peter Beadle
beadle@uow.edu.au
From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: how to write .exm files for hp95
Date: 17 Aug 92 02:09:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Aug17.020945.11363
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

bj608@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert S. Williams) writes:

:)Everything I said is quite true. If you would like verification of of these 
:)statements simply log onto  Compuserve HPHANDHELDS forum and ask.
:)There you will find several registered ISVs (at any given time)  disenchanted 
:)and frustrated about the documentation and support provided by HP.

Do you have any particulars?  What is it that these people are looking
for that their documentation doesn't provide?  I'm just curious as I
have been contemplating writing a few 95LX apps myself.  From what I've
seen of the ISV docs they appear to be fairly extensive, but I may not
be looking for the same things the other people have been.
-- 
Chuck Tomasi             |     "Mom, it's Data.  I heard you know
chuck@edsi.plexus.COM    |      how to turn him on." 
spool!cserver!edsi!chuck |                    -Wesley  "Datalore"
------<Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton Wisconsin>------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: mpj@hemlock.cray.com (M. P. Johnson)
Subject: ICONV in Lotus ?
Originator: mpj@hemlock
Organization: Cray Research, France.
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:37:02 CDT



Hi All,

I am using Lotus on my HP95LX.
I am trying to figure out exactly what the ICONV function calculates.
The manual says it's the "continuous annual rate".
However I don't find this very clear.
If someone could explain this, preferably with a small example,
then I'd be very grateful.
Thanks in advance,
Marvin Johnson.
From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: hp95lx developer support
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:01:39 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

shi@ics.uci.edu (Edmond C. Shi) writes...
> does anyone else seem to have problems with getting
> support from HP on the HP95LX computer.  i won't
> mention any specific names, but it seems impossible to
> get any technical information from them of any quality.
> 
> the adminstrator seems almost worthless (except as a
> bottleneck).
> p.s.  i'm trying to resolve some graphic problems
>       with the hp95lx (things don't always seem to
>       do what the documentation says (i.e. read/write image).

Well, based upon your previous post and the questions you asked, I'm not at
all surprised that you had problems getting any information from them.  You're
obviously not able to read the documentation that you HAVE.  You asked about
INT 10 and INT 20, and specifically about the read/write image in INT 10.

Graphics are on INT 5F in the HP 95LX, and THAT's where you'll find read/write
image, NOT in INT 10.  Sorry to come down on you (I'm normally a friendly
bear).  But my impression of you from your two posts so far brings to mind the
image of a 12-year old getting mad because the college calculus prof isn't
answering his question in terms he can understand.  I'd suggest doing a little
more studying on your own about PC's, BIOS's, DOS, and study the HP 95LX
documentation that you have.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: kenc@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Re: Software Development for NEWTON
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:56:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.142247.15193@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, slansky_doug@macn15.rtsg.mot.com writes:
> Does anyone in netland have access to a software development kit for the new
> Apple Newton palmtop?  If so, I would appreciate a contact where I may acquire
> one for myself.  

So, anyone got any solid details on the newtons yet?  Seems that no magazines
I've found yet have anything definitive. (The 3 month lag time must be killing
them)

So, will newtons have their own development environment, or will the software
be compiled on another machine, and sent over various links?

How will software upgrades to the machine be handled?

What kinda memory configurations are probably gonna be offered? 

Will there eventually be harddrives offered or what?

What do the games already written look like? (Arguably the *most* important
question...;)

C'mon!  SOMEONE wants to leak this stuff...I *know* they do!  (Be the first on
your block, and all that...)  I mean, _we_ won't say who leaked what...;) 
Matter of fact, someone from Apple could email me, and I'll swear on a stack of
bibles that a "little bird" told me...and protect your anonymity...

   __   Ken Corey  aka kenc@vaxb.acs.unt.edu  aka kenc@sol.acs.unt.edu
  /  \   Don't worry about the world ending today...it's already tomorrow
  \__/    in Australia.           -Charles Schultz
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: how to write .exm files for hp95
Date: 22 Aug 92 03:00:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <3142@hit.cc.hit-u.ac.jp> santa@hitcc.cc.hit-u.ac.jp (Ogawa Hiroshi) writes:
>>
>>HP is fairly selective about who they allow Developer status and who they 
>>provide ISV documentation to.
>>
>Is this mean that if a casual programmer want to get documentation of 
>HP95LX and send developer registration form to HP, HP may refuse to
>register him as a developer and don't provide documentations?

Exactly.  They gave me the big brush-off, so now I'm learning to
program it from what's in hp95dev.zip, trial-and-error and other
methods.

>This itself is natural for sending documents for all persons who filled
>developer registration form will cost a lot.

True, but if there was just some documentation on the internal
function calls in hp95dev.zip, that would have taken care of me.

>But how they distinguish
>True developer and casual probrammer from registration form(isvipp.95) :-)

In my case, they called me at home and asked some questions.  They want
to know exactly what kind of product you're planning to write, how you
plan to distribute it and so on.

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
	"Towards the end, the smell of their air began to change"
From: bj608@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert S. Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Rechargable batteries for HP95
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:39:43 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


Jonathan,
For NiMH AA Barreries try Alexander Batteries at 1-800-221-0019 or
1-800-334-0342 in New Jersy and Georgia respectively. 

 do not have their non-800 number yet. 

They sell the 1100 mAHr NMH AA Batteries for about $5.40 ea. 
Be *very* careful to not insert these batteries backwards in the 95LX. 
The reverse current diodes can't take the increased current and will fry 
the board if you aren't careful. 

                          Robert S. Willias
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Connection an HP95 to a MAC
From: gilf@vms.huji.ac.il (GIL FREUND)
Date: 15 Aug 1992 12:49 IDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    Lines: 13

A friend (not on the net) asked me about connecting an HP95 to  a
MAC.  According  to  the  Israeli  distributor,  there is no link
package for the HP95 with a MAC.
As  I  understand  both  the  HP95  and  the  MAC  support  RS232
communication, and  both have  Kermit software  versions. What  I
need is a  pin layout for  both computers. If  anyone has attempt
such a connection, or knows the pin layout, I will make the cable
myself and use Kermit.

Thanks

Gil
From: warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com (BJ Warkentin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Gateway 2000 Handbook
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:56:12 GMT
Organization: MITEL, Kanata, Ontario, Canada

All right what is the consensus on this beastie. I know it is bigger
than a palmtop but it is smaller than a laptop (basically the same as
2 95LXs). Is it a large palmtop or a really teeny laptop????

Functionally it is a full 286 complete with a 40 Mb hard drive and an
almost real screen (7.6" double scan CGA, 640 x 400). 

It seems to fill all of my requirements (other than cost :-) ) but I
am wondering what the rumor mill has heard as I bet this is just the
first of a whole slew of new "sublaptop" class of machines. What is
happening with the Kittyhawk drive? Will the next generation HP have
one? The way I see it, the day after I drop a bundle one whatever, the
next generation of machines will be announced...

The size factor is ok but I would be very interested in more ram (say
8 Mb) and a VGA screen. 

BJ...warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com    |   XJ650K and DoD#0255
Kanata, Ontario, Canada        |   I want a new toy...
I really didn't mean it quite that way, or did I :->
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: bk916@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Corby Grubb)
Subject: Radio Shack PC-6 for sale
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 04:50:39 GMT


I have a Radio Shack PC-6 for sale, complete with documentation
and (I think) the original box.  Please Email with offer.
TNX.
-- 
Corby Grubb  bk916
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: shi@ics.uci.edu (Edmond C. Shi)
Subject: hp95lx developer support
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:12:59 GMT

---------------------



does anyone else seem to have problems with getting
support from HP on the HP95LX computer.  i won't
mention any specific names, but it seems impossible to
get any technical information from them of any quality.

the adminstrator seems almost worthless (except as a
bottleneck).

ed

p.s.  i'm trying to resolve some graphic problems
      with the hp95lx (things don't always seem to
      do what the documentation says (i.e. read/write image).

:x
From: falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Appointment bugs
Date: 12 Aug 1992 20:56:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: peregrine

In article <1992Aug11.124346.15290@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> edp@math.zko.dec.com (Eric Postpischil) writes:
>
>HP, please don't let Lotus write your software.  Give it to the group
>that did the HP-48 software!

Seconded!

		-ed falk, sun microsystems
		 sun!falk, falk@sun.com
	"Towards the end, the smell of their air began to change"
From: everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Everett Kaser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: hp95 graphics
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:53:56 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA

shi@ics.uci.edu (Edmond C. Shi) writes...
>  1) what is the difference between int10 and int 20 calls.
>     it seems like there are two ways to set the graphics mode (one
>     each way) and i'm not sure what the differences are.  if
>       i set graphics mode using the int20 calls, will int10 functions
>     such as scroll area work.
>  2) does int10 read/write area work properly.  it seems not for me.
> 3) when i use the jaggraph.exe program in my hp (from graph.zip)
>     it hands up my hp.  has anybody else experienced this.

Ed, you're totally hosed.  (I know it's not me, 'cause I haven't smoked
anything since I was 6 or 7. :-)

INT 10 is the video BIOS call.  You're close here.  INT 20 is an ancient DOS
call to terminate your program.  I assume that you must be thinking of INT 5F,
but how you got to INT 20, I can't guess.  INT 5F calls INT 10 to actually
cause the mode switch, but INT 5F *ALSO* needs to set up some internal
variables.  Therefore, if you're going to be calling any of the low-level
graphichs routines that are available through INT 5F, you MUST use the INT 5F
call to set the video mode.  Once this has been done, then you can mix calls
to INT 5F and calls to INT 10 (lord knows why you'd want to, though).  And I'm
clueless WHAT you're talking about with regard to "int10 read/write area".
There ain't no such animal (at least in the HP 95LX).  I also haven't a clue
what jaggraph.exe is.  The low-level graphics are built into the HP 95LX and
are accessed via software interrupt 5F.  A sample assembly language file has
been distributed at times called jaggraph.asm or jaggraph.obj which provides
functions that can be called from a C program, but it's not designed to be
a stand-alone program by any means.

** Everett Kaser                   Hewlett-Packard Company
** ...hplabs!hp-pcd!everett        work: (503) 750-3569   Corvallis, Oregon
** everett@hpcvra.cv.hp.com        "Today is a good day for change."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds,misc.forsale.computers
From: melz@well.sf.ca.us (Melvin L. Zwillenberg)
Subject: Poqet Packages for Sale
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:56:01 GMT


FOR SALE:



512K Poqet PC w/Serial and Parallel Cables $590.



Poqet 1.44MB Portable Floppy Drive $270.



Lotus 123 V.2.2 ROMCard for Poqet  only (will NOT work on other

                palmtops) $175.



Please add shipping to above prices.





SPECIAL PACKAGE DEAL: ALL ABOVE ITEMS: $950. PPD.



NOTE: I would be willing to accept an HP95LX in partial payment at

the following rates: 512K $275.; 1MB $400.
From: santa@hit.cc.hit-u.ac.jp (Ogawa Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: hp95 graphics
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:32:03 GMT
Reply-To: santa@hitcc.cc.hit-u.ac.jp (Ogawa Hiroshi)
Organization: Hitotsubashi Univ.,Japan

In article <2A9143C7.6162@ics.uci.edu> shi@ics.uci.edu (Edmond C. Shi) writes:
>--------------------------------
>      What is the difference between int10 and int 20 calls.
>     it seems like there are two ways to set the graphics mode (one
>     each way) and i'm not sure what the differences are.  if
>       i set graphics mode using the int20 calls, will int10 functions
>     such as scroll area work.

INT 20h is used by DOS to terminate program.  I don't think it is possible 
to change video mode using INT 20h.  

There's two way to change video mode on HP95LX.

(1) INT 10h, AH=0 Normal PC-BIOS Function
(2) INT 5Fh, AH=0 HP95LX Extended BIOS Function

The latter function will finally call INT 10h, I think.  So the functions
provided by INT 10h may be used even if you used INT 5Fh to change video mode.


>2) does int10 read/write area work properly.  it seems not for me.

I don't know INT 10h funcitons to read or write specified area.
So I've never used them.  Can you teach me the function numbers?

-- 
Hiroshi Ogawa
Assistant Professor
Kanto-Gakuen Univ.
Gunma-Ken, Japan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops,comp.sys.handhelds,misc.forsale.computers
From: melz@well.sf.ca.us (Melvin L. Zwillenberg)
Subject: Atari Portfolio Packages for Sale
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:57:59 GMT


 FOR SALE:



 (Package A):



 128K Portfolio palmtop computer

 Padded leather case (CASEWORKS), holds computer, RAMCards, batteries

 128K RAMCard

 Serial interface

 Parallel interface

 A.C.Power Supply



 ALL ABOVE for $380. ppd.





 (Package B):



 Tandy PDD2 (Portable Disk Drive Model 2, 200K per disk)

 Portfolio access software for PDD2 on ROMCard and disk.

 Misc. forum software on PDD2 and DOS disks.



 Total Price for Package B: $185. ppd.



 OTHER ITEMS:



 128K RAMCard $100. ppd.



 DOS Utilities Card $35.



 PowerBASIC ROMcard (compiler) $60.



 (SUPER SPECIAL PACKAGE C):



 ALL ABOVE ITEMS, PACHAGES A AND B PLUS THE RAMCARD, DOS CARD AND POWERBASIC

 PLUS BACK ISSUES OF RePort w/disks: $625. ppd.



 NOTE: I would be willling to accept an HP95LX in part payment at the
following rates:

       512K $275.; 1 MB $400.



 Money
From: Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Voice Input (was: Apple's Newton)
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:12:15 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.palmtops
Organization: Harvard University Office for Information Technology

In article <1992Aug3.145230.3252@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>,
ematias@dgp.toronto.edu (Edgar Matias) wrote:

> One company (from B.C. I believe) makes an ear piece that
> is both a sound output and input device.

Norris Communications, I believe (strongly)....  I just had
a quick look but couldn't find a proper reference....  I
thought they were on the west coast of *this* country, not
Edgar's....

Conrad C. Nobili  N1LPM  Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU  Harvard University OIT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: Connection an HP95 to a MAC
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:08:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.235902.4825@crd.ge.com> roberts@luxor.crd.ge.com (Victor D Roberts) writes:
>In article <15AUG199212490822@vms.huji.ac.il> gilf@vms.huji.ac.il (GIL FREUND) writes:
>>A friend (not on the net) asked me about connecting an HP95 to  a
>>MAC.  According  to  the  Israeli  distributor,  there is no link
>>package for the HP95 with a MAC.
>>As  I  understand  both  the  HP95  and  the  MAC  support  RS232
>>communication, and  both have  Kermit software  versions. What  I
>>need is a  pin layout for  both computers. If  anyone has attempt
>>such a connection, or knows the pin layout, I will make the cable
>>myself and use Kermit.
>>
>........
>
>
>I don't have the pin layout for the 95LX handy right now, but it is very
>simple. There are four pins in the 95LX and it provides only the two basic
>RS-232 signals - SEND and RECEIVE. The other two pins are signal ground and
>protective ground. Using a voltmeter or RS-232 tester it should be easy
>to isolate the send and reveice pins. Send me e-mail if you need more help.

I managed to dig up the posting I did here a while back when this question
came up. 

Standard disclaimers, my brother can beat up your lawyer, etc., etc., etc.

SNIP------SNIP------SNIP------SNIP-----SNIP----SNIP----SNIP---SNIP---SNIP


95LX adapatation to "Uncle Bert's" cable:
The pinouts are the same on the 95 as on the 48SX.My chief mod was to skip the
null-modem step and wire HP2 to DB3 and HP3 to DB2.

_____
     \
(hp)  |
95LX  |              ___
      |connector    / PC
      |             | RS-232
    4 |-----------7 | db 9
    3 |----\/ ----3 | or
    2 |--- /\ ----2 | db 25
    1 |-----------1 | plug
-----/              \__

Parts:
4-conductor 22 gauge wire from Rat Shack.
Heat-shrink that will go over 22-gauge wire.
(mine was the smallest size from the Rat Shack assortment pack)
DB{9|25} DIY kit with appropriate pins/connectors as your cabling
needs require. 
A pack of female DB{9|25} connectors for the HP end.

   

Rather than try and measure 2mm and get the cable to fit on in a
single plug, I decided to split the individual wires apart and leave them
hanging. The cable is stiff, yet flexible, so its not like they are going
to flail all over the place nor are they going to snap right off. I've
been carrying mine around in my pocket for about 2 weeks now and it
there have been no problems with the connectors getting damaged or 
bent or anything. Having to hook up 4 wires as opposed to one plug takes
more time, but it still only takes a few seconds and I don't have to worry
about bending a pin on the 95 from trying to jam a badly spaced plug onto
it. Anyways, thats what I did. The source article is below.



Article 1486 of comp.sys.handhelds:
From: 93jay@williams.edu (Jonathan Young)
Subject: Rechargable batteries for HP95
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:46:43 GMT

A while back someone (possibly the erstwhile Robert S. Williams)
posted information on special (NiMH? I can't remember) batteries which
could be used to greater effect than standard NiCads in a HP95.

Anyone still have the information? 


Jonathan Young
Williams College