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From: liljeber@kruuna.Helsinki.FI (Mika Pekka Liljeberg)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problems with serial port drivers??
Date: 11 Apr 92 10:40:27 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Helsinki, Finland

In article <65178@apple.Apple.COM> erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp) wrote:
> Has anyone seen any problems with the serial port drivers under
> linux?  I'm running 0.95a and am having a hard time making uucp fly
> at 9600 baud and above, either straight through or with a modem.
> This same machine and comm board runs XENIX HDB UUCP flawlessly,
> and there have not been any reported complaints about taylor-uucp
> dropping packets, etc.
> 
> This might not show up under light loads -- just under a heavy
> load, like uucp at 19200.

Yeah, I have experienced problems at high speeds, too. There is packet
loss when transferring files with kermit, and the modem has an irritating
habit of suddenly dropping off-line, if simultaneous heavy disk activity
occurs. The surest way to effect this is to compile something on another
console (thank God I don't need swap in order to use the compiler!).
I even have a 16550AN UART chip, and it doesn't help at all (does anyone
know, if the serial driver supports 16550 fifos?).

My guess is that something in the kernel disables interrupts for too
long, perhaps its the hard disk driver, perhaps the problem occurs when
forking a new process, I don't know. It's annoying all the same.

As an aside, I've been hearing that it isn't possible to use serial ports
using the same IRQ line simultaneously. Isn't it possible to poll all the
UARTS on the IRQ line in the interrupt handler? Ie. you'd need a slightly
smarter interrupt handler. One routine would handle com1 and com3 and
another one would handle com2 and com4. I've never written an actual serial
driver, so I'm not very sure about this, but I think it ought to be possible.

	Mika
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Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: jgifford@attmail.com
Subject: rcs, what does it do?
Reply-To: jgifford@attmail.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:06:52 GMT

I have rcs, and I have no idea what it is for, can someone e-mail me and
explain it?  thanks,
jim gifford
jgifford@attmail.com
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From: moyerg@jove.cs.pdx.edu (gary a moyer)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: got root95c+, now need device driver for lp0...
Keywords: lp, lpd, lpr, lp0
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:00:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.5301

Well, I got the .95c+ release of the boot image (kudos to those
responsible).  When I boot I get an 'lp0 recognized'.  Anyhow,
I still have _no_ device driver for the printer at lp0.  Is this
a question of which root image I'm using (am using .95 root image)?
If not, can the driver be created using mknode and if so could someone
please post the necessary info to do this?

              thanks.  moyerg@cs.pdx.edu
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: jgifford@attmail.com
Subject: modems and terminals(getty)
Reply-To: jgifford@attmail.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:06:53 GMT

Thanks for all the help on logging in via modem(I essentially had
to turn every "feature" of the modem off) Worked great!
I connected, and used kermit (via other port) to initiate a session
with my provcomm on my xt, worked great!  I then tried to d/l via
zmodem from the xt, but got nothing but bad crc's(to be expected
going through 2 serial ports and kermit)
anyway, on to the problem...:
  I have this really odd terminal(what terminal isn't odd?) and it will
only go up to 9600 baud(no probem yet) However, it will only do even,
odd, or mark parity(can't force none) therein lies the problem.
I do a getty for it, and the message shows on the screen and login:
i try to type, and no response....
is there a way to do getty 9600 (even,7,1) ttys1?
anyway, it isn't important, just a friend wants to log in and look
around(and I am usually on the modem to attmail :) )
the xt works ok for logins, but it's keyboard is partly broken, and I
often use it for loading new software from messy-dos.

BTW, using Procomm Plus 2.0 with vt100 emulation, and logging in
to an account runing bash, up arrow really works right!  This is the
first(and only) flavor of *nix I have yet logged into that vt100
termcap worked so well(backspace on xt even works right, I didn't have to
reprogram it)  Great Job!!!!

Also, I also agree it is time to end alt.os.linux(too many doubled
messages, and I am charged for them all<i think i am anyway>)

Jim Gifford
jgifford@attmail.com
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: lpickup@xanadu.btv.ibm.com (Lance Pickup)
Subject: Re: IBM PS/2 Model 70
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 13:55:36 GMT
Reply-To: lpickup@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Technology Products

In article <1992Apr13.130940.7850@colorado.edu>, drew@caesar.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt) writes:
|> These changes should be quite trivial - you will need to change the
|> 8259 PIC programming to be level triggered, rather than edge triggered.
|>
|> If someone has a way to tell the difference between a MC PS/2 and an
|> ISA system, this could even be incorporated into the standard
|> release with only a few lines of code.

Drew,

  Definitely encouraging news.  I would love to give it a try, but
I haven't been able to rebuild the system on my machine.  Problem is,
until I get Linux, I'm stuck with DOS (chicken and egg!)  The DJGPP
compiler I am using does weird things to all the addresses it produces
which I think are messing me up.  This is probably because it assumes
you are using it's GO32 loader which loads your program into a
different area of virtual memory than the bootsect and setup Linux
loader.

  Does anyone have any suggestions as to how to get around this?
I tried padding the beginning of the tools/system file with 0x1020
NOP's (that's what DJGPP adds to all addresses), but it didn't help
much.  If I could have a way to rebuild Linux, I would be eager to
work on MCA!

  Thanks again,
--
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From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
Subject: uucp porting status report - 04/08/92
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:06:07 GMT
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

Well, for the most part, it works!  I can't turn off debugging
in uucico (have to use -x4 or above), but it works fine with
smail3.  I wrote a simple shell script to deal with local
mail - I'll be including that with both the binaries and the sources.

I just converted to gcc-2.1 from H. J., and now I can't get the
executables to execute!  Can someone please email step-by-step
directions on how to do this?  Thanks!

If I can get the binaries to run, I'll be sending the whole thing over to
tsx-11 Thursday morning sometime.
-- 
Ed Carp  N7EKG/6	erc@khijol.UUCP		erc@apple.com
			Cupertino, CA		408/252-5947

-- Absolutely unabashed Gates McFadden groupie! --
From: cheetah@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bowen Goletz)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: .95c+ and GCC2.1 kernel compiles, MAN?
Keywords: gcc files man kernel
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:31:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45185
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I don't seem to be able to compile the .95c+ kernel using GCC 2.1.  Make
complained about not finding gpp, so I read through the GCC docs and
set up various links to appease make.  However, after a slew of errors,
I am still not able to compile.  Is anyone working on a current "how
to" with the new releases?  Are there problems that .95c+ and the
kernel patch available with GCC don't address?  Also  -- is the manual
binary available anywhere?  I have the manual tree and most of the
documentation in the right place, but nothing to make it go.

	-bg
mak

-- 
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Purdue University                  Midi 'n Music
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From: umthom61@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Adam Thompson)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Binaries vs. Sources  (was: (none))
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:43:52 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In <1992Apr7.211152.4790@athena.mit.edu> tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:

>However, I don't think it's fair that you ask everybody to recompile all
>of the binaries each time a new release comes out.  For this reason, I
>do not plan on deleting the binaries subdirectory on TSX-11.  If you
>don't trust the binaries there; fine, don't use them.  There will be
>some people who will want to use the binaries which are provided there
>instead of compiling their own from source.  That's fine too.  If
>someone has a problem with one of the binaries, and recompiles it from
>scratch, and uploads to the various FTP sites, I'm sure we'd be happy to
>replace the broken version with the fixed one.

I think there's a general consensus here, that we still need binary
distribution.  However, some *VERY* valid points have been raised.  For
example,  when I go a-looking to re-install Linux (ie: cleaned up my 2nd
HD, made some room :-)   I FTP to tsx-11.  Fine.  

'cd /pub/linux/INSTALL'
'mget *'
'cd /pub/linux/binaries/usr.bin'
'ls'
*** Now.  What the F*** do I _need_ to get a reasonable Linux system up and
running ?   The last time I tried to actually figure it out, (back at 0.12)
I just FTP'ed the whole directory.  Untarred the whole bundle.  Hoped
everything fell into place when I  unTar'ed from "/".   

Although you (Theodore) probably have a biased view, I think even you have
to admit that the binaries directory is a bit ... cluttered?
 
Now, for your daily:
 Yet Another Suggestion -- create  tsx-11:~ftp/pub/linux/essentials

:-)
-Adam Thompson
 umthom61@ccu.umanitoba.ca
 (somebody mail me and tell me if I have a .sig or not, please)
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Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: jwinstea@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: Beginner's Guide: Installation
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:44:16 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.123135.6297@sinkhole.unf.edu> jdough@unf6.unf.edu (Joseph Dougherty) writes:
>In article <19765@castle.ed.ac.uk> eonu24@castle.ed.ac.uk (I Reid) writes:
>
>	In reading through this informative post, I discovered only one real
>major error. In the table where you point out the minor numbers of the hard
>disk partitions, there is an error that should be corrected.:
>
>>>>
>        For a hard disk the major number (offset 509) is always 3, and the
>    minor number (offset 508) is a combination of primary or secondary HD
>        drive and partition details (see FAQ for details). Here are the details
>
>    Device      Major    Minor       Device      Major    Minor
>    ------      -----    -----       ------      -----    -----
>    /dev/hda1     3        1         /dev/hdb1     3        65
>    /dev/hda2     3        2         /dev/hdb2     3        66
>    /dev/hda3     3        3         /dev/hdb3     3        67
>    /dev/hda4     3        4         /dev/hdb4     3        68
>    /dev/hda5     3        5         /dev/hdb5     3        69
>    /dev/hda6     3        6         /dev/hdb6     3        70
>    /dev/hda7     3        7         /dev/hdb7     3        71
>    /dev/hda8     3        8         /dev/hdb8     3        72
>
>>>>>
>
>	In the second set of device numbers, the drive major number should be
>4 with the minor numbers as 1 through 8. This is for a second disk drive
>on a system, using single or multiple partitions. 

Um, sorry, but you are completely and utterly dead wrong - major
number 4 is for the tty devices, unless something drastic has changed
between 0.95a and 0.95c (patches only).  This is how Linux handles it
- Minix may be different, but that's irrelevant.

*Please* be careful with this.  There were problems with an old
version of the FAQ reporting the incorrect numbers, and people will
turn up with some rather major problems with this sort of confusion.
-- 
Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95)    | "Catch a fish!"
Harvey Mudd College            |  -Geddy Lee,
jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU |   San Diego Sports Arena
Disclaimer: Mine, not theirs!  |   January 20, 1992
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: drew@romeo.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: modem login, and .95c
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:01:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.082319.21069@muddcs.claremont.edu> jwinstea@jarthur.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.023520.19425@athena.mit.edu> jgifford@attmail.com writes:
>
>>Oh, one other question: has anyone got a tape drive functioning under Linux?
>>I am considering that as my next purchase, and I am wondering what is best
>>for Linux?
>
>I don't know of anyone with tape drives working.  Apparently the SCSI
>patches are able to handle SCSI tape drives, but I haven't heard of
>anyone using them.
>

The SCSI patches have STUBS for the st tape driver.  Present tapes are 
detected, but that's about it it. 


Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu (Roger Books)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Minor problem with mtools, problem with chmod/ls -l
Date: 3 Apr 92 13:29:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: mailer.1992Apr3.082956.17719
Reply-To: books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu
Organization: F.S.U. Dept of Physics
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

I'm having a minor problem with the new mtools not letting me mcd.  I can
manually set a path in .mcwd but mtools complains when I try to use mcd to
change it.  .mcwd is rwxrwxrwx for now.  All the rest of mtools appear to
work fine.

I'm not sure if the second problem is in chmod or ls.  When I change a files
mode to 6777 ls -l tells me the file is rwsrwsrwx.  Same thing with
chmod +os file.

			Roger
			books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu
From: jes@mbio.med.upenn.edu (Joe Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: Re: Binaries considered harmful
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:38:44 GMT
	<1992Apr7.201618.29108@muddcs.claremont.edu>
	<1992Apr7.165844@hammer.Prime.COM>
	<1992Apr8.194626.3652@muddcs.claremont.edu>
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Philadelphia, PA
In-reply-to: jwinstea@jarthur.claremont.edu's message of 8 Apr 92 19:46:26 GMT


I'll probably regret this, but here goes...

What's the beef?  I think the discussion about distributing individual
binaries is clouding a more important issue.  It seems pretty clear to
me that linux, just like any Unix, needs a binary distribution to
bootstrap from.  The binary distribution needs to be
	* stable
	* easily downloaded & installed
	* complete(*)
	* as small as practical (say ~5-8 Mb)
This would allow newcomers to install a working system with known
features (& bugs) with a minimum of hassle and ftp/file transfer time.

I'd like to see this system include gcc(**), but that's certainly not
necessary.  From this platform, people could evaluate linux without
spending a couple of weeks moving this file and that patch, etc.  If
successful, they can then add binary accessory packages or source +
patches.  The distribution model used by commercial Unixes is not bad
- it just costs way too much, and you can't get source even if you
want it.

I don't know if Alan's ABC version will do this or not, but I hope
so.  Without a stable C compiler & development system it's probably a
waste of time to try and assemble a distribution, but now I think we
can.

<Joe
------------------------------
(*) What's complete?  Well, one example comes to mind: the MKS toolkit
is reasonably complete and fits into this size limitation.  Basically
it should have enough functionality to give a good look at Unix and
the capability to load additional packages.  Maybe the Byte benchmarks
would be a reasonable target capability.

(**) What would you do with such a system except software development:
I'm not holding *my* breath for Word Perfect for Linux :-)

--
 Joe Smith
 University of Pennsylvania                    jes@mbio.med.upenn.edu
 Dept. of Biochemistry and Biophysics          (215) 898-8348
 Philadelphia, PA 19104-6059
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux,comp.os.linux
From: bjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William A Jones)
Subject: Where is system-0.95a.tar.Z??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:29:09 GMT

Last week a notice of system-0.95a.tar.Z was posted and I retreived the
file.  Since then I have had a hard disk crash and am now trying to
rebuild my linux system but system-0.95a.tar.Z seems to have disappeared!
Maybe I'm overlooking something (this archive indexes are all about a week
old).  Please repost the location or if it has been removed, tell me where
I can get a copy (I really want the login and passwd routines -- they let
me set up a multiuser system easily).

Thanks,
Bill

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bjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
bjones@geo1s.mps.ohio-state.edu
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From: ccx062@cov.ac.uk (Chris Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: expr & sort
Summary: where can I get the sources ?
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:14:18 GMT
Organization: Computer Services, Coventry Polytechnic

Can anyone tell me where I can get sort & expr (preferably
with the sources) ??
I have looked at many a site with 'bsd-sources' directorys & I
have looked through most of the linux stuff - but to no avail....

	-Chris
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Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: rcte4@jetson.uh.edu (Carpenter, Scot M.)
Subject: Re: alt.os.linux ?
Followup-To: alt.os.linux
Summary: rmgroup it ?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: obsolete rmgroup kill-it
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 06:04:00 GMT

In article <3133@wzv.win.tue.nl>, rob@wzv.win.tue.nl (Rob J. Nauta) writes...
>Hi
> 
>I notice that most messages are now posted to both alt.os.linux, and
>comp.os.linux. Generally comp groups get better distribution, so maybe
>it's time to rmgroup it ? Any comments ?
> 
>Rob
>-- 
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      Not a good night.  First posting got aborted (hopefully)....
      At my site (...@jetson.uh.edu   there is no comp.os.linux, the 
      only group that shows up is an empty group comp.os.lunix 

      Is this a purely local problem for our sys. admin types?
      I apologize if this is a SAQ....


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Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
From: kirsch@eaeps1.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Kirsch)
Subject: Patching Bootimage disks
Summary: Looking for tools to patch boot disks
Keywords: linux, boot, MS/DOS
Organization: Inst. for General Electrics & Electronics, TU Vienna
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:06:43 GMT

I got pmk32.zip from wuarchive.wustl.edu in order to patch my boot-disk to 
tell about an alternative root device. (Wanting to change bytes no. 508 and 
509).
But: It did not work. I checked the behaviour of pmk with the new formatted 
disk - all ok. It seems, that the data of the boot information is too 
different from that of an ordinary MS/DOS disk. So a "General disk error" is 
reported.
Can anyone tell me an alternative mechanism for patching boot-disks?

Many thanks in advance!
Rainer Kirsch
Technical University of Vienna - Austria - Europe
kirsch@eaeps1.tuwien.ac.at

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From: huehn@hppad.waterloo.hp.com (Rob Huehn)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:25:01 GMT
Subject: Re: Partitioning Warning!
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux

liljeber@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Mika Pekka Liljeberg) writes: 
>In article <1992Apr12.151734.4845@donau.et.tudelft.nl> wolff@neuron.et.tudelft.nl (Rogier Wolff) wrote:
>> 
>> YEP happened to me too! DR DOS 6.0 recognizes MINIX and Linux partitions
>> as if they are DOS 2.0 partitions, and will friendly as ever write format
>> recover files to them, thereby destroying them.
>> 
>> This is clearly DR DOS's fault. I won't use it anymore. (too bad for the
>> extra 30M i'd get on my 30M partition, haven't bought/found Stacker yet...)
>> 
>> 
>> 						Roger
>
>I don't use DRDOS myself, but I have a suggestion that might help.
>Clearly DRDOS does not recognize Minix and Linux paritions and
>blithely assumes (and this is surely a bug) that they are DOS 2.0
>partitions. The obvious fix would be to use a partition ID that
>DRDOS is sure to recognize as NON-DOS, say Xenix for instance.
>Linux doesn't care one way or another. If memory serves, Xenix uses
>ID $02. You can use Norton Utilities, or any of a number of partition
>table editors, to change the partition ID.
>
>		Mika

Haven't they fixed that yet?  I found the same problem in 5.0 too, as did
anyone else who used DR DOS and Minix.  When the DR DOS disk driver checks
partition types it masks the ID with 0x7f (looks like a bad patch to make
someone happy, but it's pretty stupid.)

If you feel like fixing the real source of the problem, you could remove
the mask from DR DOS.  But make sure you understand what you're doing
if you change it.  It works for me with 5.0.

--
Rob (rghuehn@sunee.uwaterloo.ca) Computer Engineering, University of Waterloo
Huehn (huehn@waterloo.hp.com) Panacom Automation Division, Hewlett Packard Co


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From: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.os.linux
Subject: stuff at tsx-11.
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:59:15 GMT
Reply-To: johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson)
Organization: The Internet


OK, we now have one more try at kermit5A package.
tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/binaries/usr.bin/kermit5A.tar.Z

if it doesn't work, mail ftp-linux@tsx-11.mit.edu.

Also, someone downloaded ps095c.tar.Z -- try it if you like.  It is in
/pub/linux/sources/sbin/ps095c.tar.Z

michaelkjohnson
johnsonm@stolaf.edu
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