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From: Tagi@cup.portal.com (Thyagi Morgoth NagaSiva)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: NEW AGE RENAISSANCE FAIR - 11th Annual
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 20:09:11 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ca

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From: farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Lorenzo Farris)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: re-examination of dealing with emotions
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:45:06 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


This is a result of an exchange between me and steve. I had originally
chosen not to post my reply, but I have thought better of it and will
post my interpretation of the outcome.

This all started with Toshi's post on, essentially, how to avoid
feeling negative emotions. Steve next puts forth the need to give
emotions expression if we are to become emotionally healthy. I came
along somewhere in there with the idea of analyzing emotions as they
occur.

What I think we agree at this point on the need to experience the
emotions, not suppress or sublimate or whatever. We also need a
balance between reason and emotion. A dynamical balance, as Steve
points out. If you are feeling bad, something is obviously wrong. It
is important both to experience that emotion, and find out why you are
experiencing it.

Anger and fear are emotions that are good and functional only for a
moment, generally. Any longer than that and you really need to either
do some serious self-discovery, or, if it really is something in your
physical environment, please change it!

Regarding the idea of getting angry at someone around you: imo, the
only reason to get angry is if someone is violating your autonomy in
any way. No other should or shouldn'ts apply. If you are getting angry
or afraid, and that's not the reason why, then I think it is
appropriate to do a little introspection into that emotion. If you
swallow your anger just because you have been taught you shouldn't get
angry at this person, this isn't good, either. Maybe you need to find
another way to vent your anger when your boss pisses you off, because
she can't handle it and will fire you, but you better get out and feel
and vent that anger at some point.

It is very easy to ask, when getting angry, who is violating me? 

For those that are a little more psychic or sensitive or open or
whatever, (like me, mister hypersensitive =8-O ) you also want to be
aware of whether the emotions you are feeling are really yours, or you
are just picking up on someone else that had a bad day.

There is a great deal of enjoyment, value, wisdom, ecstasy, etc., in
the emotions and feeling. In our highly emotionally repressed society
we are strongly discouraged from ever owning this aspect of ourselves.
And when we do feel emotions, there is so much confusion because of
this process of repression and conditioning.

I engage in my process of analysis to clear out, as much as possible,
the lifetime of accumulated crud in my emotional being, so that when I
feel something, it really is related to right here and now, and helps
inform my actions or non-actions.

Please feel free to fill in the gaps in this summary piece.

                           -Lorenzo
-- 
"Once upon a time men were possessed    ******************************
by devils. Now they are not less        *  Lorenzo Farris            *
obsessed by ideas" -CG Jung             *  farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu *
					******************************
From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 11:34:46 EST
Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA

emiddlec@mora.gac.edu (Eric Middlecamp) writes:

>> Spiritual Intelligence Test.

>> (Please answer each question in 25 words or less)

>> 1) What is the soul?

> I am.

Question 1 grade: 100% (Short, sweet and perfectly right)

>> 2) What is the purpose of human life?

> Ha. Sort of an oxymoron. 
> The purpose of my soul is love. Love is spiritual evolution, heaven, nirvana.

Question 2 grade: 50% (all right, but love who?, evolve into what?)

The purpose of human life is to reestablish our eternal but forgotten
relationship with God as His loving devotees and return home, back to
Godhead. This is real spiritual evolution.

Overall grade: 75%
Thank you very much!

Sincerely,
Kalki Dasa


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      |  Don't forget to chant:   Hare Krishna Hare Krishna   |
      |                           Krishna Krishna Hare Hare   |
      |                           Hare Rama Hare Rama         |
      |                           Rama Rama Hare Hare         |
      |                                                       |
      |   Kalki's Infoline BBS Aiken, South Carolina, USA     |
      |        (kalki33!kalki@lakes.trenton.sc.us)            |
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From: pierccm@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: MARK-OF-THE-BEA$T bar-code$/scanner$
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:30:51 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Nov11.210128.2286@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
> 
> 
>                            THE "MARK OF THE BEA$T"
> 
>                ALL Christians are PROHIBITED by Revelation 14:9-11 from 
>           cooperating with the "MARK-OF-THE-BEA$T" bar-code, OCR-
>           number, and magnetic-strip scanning systems, (as found in 
>           local libraries, supermarkets, retail establishments, etc.), 
>           which also THREATEN to SUBVERT Individual Privacy and 
>           Freedom. 
> 
>                The scanners can serve THE SAME CRIMINAL PURPOSE as the 
>           TV cameras in the book "1984"! 
> 
>                The UPC bar-codes are probably the most blatant form of 
>           the "MARK OF THE BEA$T" so far, with the "NUMBER OF THE 
>           BEA$T", 666, ALREADY CODED INTO THEM.  Each of the so-called 
>           "guard patterns", pairs of thin lines spaced close together 
>           at the beginning, middle, and end of each full-length UPC 
>           bar-code, is IDENTICAL to one of the two codes for a 6. 
> 
>                WARN YOUR FRIENDS!
> 
> 
>                UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
>           IMPORTANT Information is ENCOURAGED. 
> 
> 
>                                    Robert E. McElwaine
> 
> 

This is really interesting to have found this post.  Two summers ago I
found a flyer on the windshield of my car when it was in the parking
lot at a mall.  The flyer said the same thing as the above post, with
some other information.  The flyer also said that the Second Coming of
Jesus Christ was going to be in October of 1992.

I don't know if Robert is affiliated with the same religious
organization, I do not even remember the name of that group (I had
never heard of it before).  But I was just curious if Jesus was here
and left already, if he only came "to those who are worthy", or if He
had a change in His vacation plans.  8-)

Just some thoughts.

Chris
pierccm@wkuvx1.bitnet
From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 04:22:14 EST
Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA

kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Bonus, Iniquus, Celer - Delegitus Duo) writes:

> Prediction: I will always be graded by you to have 0 or less than 0% on this
> test.

Yes, unless you want to get serious about discussing the Absolute Truth,
you are quite correct.

> >> > Spiritual Intelligence Test.
> >> > (Please answer each question in 25 words or less)
> >> > 1) What is the soul?
> >> The bottume of my shoue.
> > Question 1 grade: 0% (joking to cover up ignorance)
> 
> You conjecture that I am joking.  Please provide evidence that I am joking. 
> Also, you indicate elsewhere that God is everywhere.  Is he, and hence par of
> my soul also not in the bottom of my shoe?  For shame!

Yes, God is everywhere. But you are not God. You are an individual soul,
and the individual soul is not all-pervading. We, as individual souls,
are part of the supreme soul, or Supersoul. But the Supersoul is
unlimited, whereas we are limited. The soul may inhabit a material body,
but the body is not the soul. God is certainly in the bottom of your
shoe, but the bottom of your shoe is not God. You, as the individual
soul, are in your body, but you are not in the bottom of your shoe.

> > 
> >> > 2) What is the purpose of human life?
> >> To keepe the soul of mye shoue in goode repaire.
> > Question 2 grade: 0% (joking to cover up ignorance)
> Once again, please provide proof that I am joking, or that I  am ignorant of
> the condition of my soul.  Just because I do not believe your subjective
> statements does  not make it so.

The question was not about the condition of your soul, but the purpose
of human life. It was a simple question designed to evoke sincere
responses so that an honest dialog might begin. It was not intended as a
threat to anyone's pride or an insult to anyone's intelligence. If it
was taken that way we are not at fault, for we did not issue it in a
mean spirit. Yes, we know something of the actual nature of the soul,
and we know what is the purpose of human life. It is unfortunate that
this is perceived as a threat rather than an opportunity.

> 
Sincerely,
Kalki Dasa

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      |  Don't forget to chant:   Hare Krishna Hare Krishna   |
      |                           Krishna Krishna Hare Hare   |
      |                           Hare Rama Hare Rama         |
      |                           Rama Rama Hare Hare         |
      |                                                       |
      |   Kalki's Infoline BBS Aiken, South Carolina, USA     |
      |        (kalki33!kalki@lakes.trenton.sc.us)            |
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Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth)
Subject: Re: Space Craft From Other Plants
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:18:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.112745.11683@netcom.com> sgil@netcom.com (Steve Gilbert) writes:

>Why don't these races use the same technology?  We're having enough
>trouble here on Earth with patent/copyright infringement and enforcement;
>I'd expect that on an interstellar scale keeping a technology from
>being copied would be impossible.

Actually, Steve, the *real* space-travelling entities don't use any
technology at all.  It's only the most backward and unenlightened
groups that still need flying saucers and similar clunky artificial
aids.  Indeed, these groups are so unenlightened that they often
stoop to playing silly pranks on even more backward, planetbound
people.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Really?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:22:35 GMT

Lorenzo Farris (farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu) wrote:

: Do you believe everything you read? And if not, why the Bible and not
: something else. It might be better to describe how and where you see
: God than to resort to holy books that purport to describe the
: omnipotent being. Otherwise, how do I distinguish it from all the

Besides, a "holy book" is one person's or group of people to describe
enlightenment.  As Tom Gorski showed me by example many months ago, it
can't be done.  Enlightenment is a personal experience, and IMHO any
attempt to describe it in terms one would understand will fail.  "Any
description of the Tao is not the Tao", I believe.

Yes, Tom, you made a believer out of me. :)
--
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
seeker, therefore, is concerned with one thing only: to become aware of what
he already is, of the True Self within."  -- Zen maxim
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
From: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 04:33:56 EST
Reply-To: kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us
Organization: Kalki's Infoline BBS, Aiken, SC, USA


pul@hardy.u.washington.edu (Arbaline) writes:

> In article <VyJoTB3w165w@kalki33> kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
> >(Please answer each question in 25 words or less)
> >1) What is the soul?
> 
> The immortal upper mental/causal body of Man from which each
> personality incarnation descends, send forth to store all positive
> experiences for fulfillment of the Plan.

Question 1 grade: 0% (flowery language, but wrong)

The soul emanates from the Supersoul, or God. It is an atomic particle
of spirit. The subtle mental body is not immortal, and the soul does not
descend from it. The soul is completely transcendental to all matter,
whether subtle or gross, whether mental or physical. The soul is
eternal, unchanging, and always an individual person. The soul is not
unique to human beings, nor is there a different type of soul for humans
than for other life forms. The souls are all qualitatively identical.

> 
> >2) What is the purpose of human life?
> 
> To experience our and God's Creation by necessarily separating away
> from the One Light and then evolving through soul growth back to union
> with THAT.
> 

Question 2 grade: 0% (flowery language, but wrong)

The soul does not "grow", nor does it "necessarily" separate from the "One
Light", by which is meant God. The separation was by choice. It was not
necessary for the soul to come to the material world. The human form is
the vehicle by which the wayward soul may rectify his mistake and
reestablish his relationship with the Lord, so that he can return home,
back to Godhead.

Overall grade: 0%
Try again!

Sincerely,
Kalki Dasa

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      |  Don't forget to chant:   Hare Krishna Hare Krishna   |
      |                           Krishna Krishna Hare Hare   |
      |                           Hare Rama Hare Rama         |
      |                           Rama Rama Hare Hare         |
      |                                                       |
      |   Kalki's Infoline BBS Aiken, South Carolina, USA     |
      |        (kalki33!kalki@lakes.trenton.sc.us)            |
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Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: dart@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan the Witchling)
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:15:48 GMT

In article <Nov.5.10.56.48.1992.9463@ruhets.rutgers.edu> farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Lorenzo Farris) writes:
>
><Is something wrong with "outright proselytization"?
>
>Not if all you want to do is irritate and alienate people. Not if you
>want to drive anyone potentially interested in your practice as far
>away as possible.
>
><
><Sincerely,
><Kalki Dasa
><
>
>Thank you for posting. You're even more fun than the Christian
>fundies! :-)+-
>-- 
>"Once upon a time men were possessed    ******************************
>by devils. Now they are not less        *  Lorenzo Farris            *
>obsessed by ideas" -CG Jung             *  farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu *
>					******************************


Hear! Hear!  :)
I most certainly agree.  Proselytizing and <insert holy-book here)-beating will
only serve to drive away those you wish to hear your message, whatever that
message may be.  Have you no respect for others?  Have you no understanding
of communication?  All you are doing, Mr. Dasa, is spouting dogma at folks,
and expecting them to suddenly follow your path.  Few people I know respond
very well to shouting.

Btw, you do seem to be even more obnoxious that Xian Fundies, even those like
Brother Max, Jed, and Jim!
:-)>*

--
dart                           
aka Dartanyan the Witchling
RL- Wendy Hetrick, President of Pagan Academic Network at Purdue University.


Xref: sparky talk.religion.newage:5241 alt.alien.visitors:8258
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Pee Wee's Pyramid
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:51:49 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <69355@cup.portal.com> <97306@netnews.upenn.edu>

Dear Pyramid Folks: Remember these conventional scientist aren't 
planning to leave till May of 1993.
John Winston.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: UFOs and Newage
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:26:52 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Subject: Lone Pine Pyramid. Part 2a.
  Here is some more of Mrs. Curtis' poems about the pyramid. I hope you can 
figure out what she is talking about.
 Concerning a buried pyramid near Lone, Pine, California, and covered by a 
cataclysm at the sinking of Lemuria 80,000 years ago and relocated August 
10, 1959.  
Methinks I now another lifetime
Far back down the Path of Ages,
When we loved and worked together 
In the presence of our Master
Then it was that this land slumbered 
'Neath a swirling, briny marshland;
Desert sand spred not in the sunshine
Nor had forest claimed their footage.

Now I see a group of people 
Eager for a new adventure,
Leave their homeland called Lemuria
For a high and distant mountain (Mt. Shasta, or Chastell'
Resting safely in Mu's keeping 
From the ravages to follow
At the time of His appointment.

Soon said One, "We must search further,
Find a place to build a storehouse 
To keep intact for distant future
Many treasures of this lifetime, 
Lest by coming man forgotten."
"Stately will we build this Archive 
In a place that Mu will show us 
Ere the Earth with dreams foundation
From our well beloved homeland. 
It will lay at rest for ages 
'Neath a rocky, well-worn blanket (Alabama Hills).
Givng forth it's power to sunlight,
Drawing force into it's bosom. 
'Tis Mu's plan for future ages,
For his slow, evolving children."
Ther we followed on together
Laden with our tools and riches, 
Oer the swirling, briny marshland.

  Lemurians called their Supreme Diety Mu." It seems as  tho all who had a 
hand in this yet concealed work is made  known of it in some way or another, 
and comes, or will come and feel the power still issuing from it. 

  The colony, conisting of the builders and their families lived in a location 
under the town that is now Lone Pine.  The buried altar and place of worship 
in the colony now lies under a spot in the back yard of the author (Mrs. 
Curtis). Here unlike the swaying felt over the apex is more the spiral 
effect.  
  Geological Surveys in the pacific Ocean state that the ocean bed is rising 
proving that Lemuria is on the way back to the surface again.
  Interest in the pyramid seems to be among only those who did have a hand in 
the construction. Others are not interested. 
End Part 2a.
John Wisnton.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: phoenix@cwis.unomaha.edu (Shannon Chris Saltzman)
Subject: Re: The time has come
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:25:31 GMT

I am sorry. In retrospect i was probably out of line BUT...
I do defend your opinions against lies in my church(new age opinions)
I do try to not stomp on anyones feet by professing my opinion as
the only right opinion even among christians.

I will not write another article like this .
The article that was posted was not a direct slander on christianity
so I was out of line there.
I will write further articles on honesty on all religions though.
I think that we can all agree that honesty is needed in all religious
newsgroups. All dishonesty does is further people in othe religions
from each other and I believe that is the wrong way to go.
Once again I am sorry and I hope that in the future my articles will
be less offensive and more constructive.

-- 
From the coffee table of MR SHANNON SALTZMAN
"Is doggie heavan kitty hell?"
     Stephanie Phoenix(age 6)
This in everyway represents the authors opinion!!!(take it if ya want)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
From: waddell@firnvx.firn.edu
Subject: Re: About protecting oneself, prayers, petitions...
Organization: Florida State University
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:45:06 EST

In article <1dpeg2INNn6o@gap.caltech.edu>, tt@wag.caltech.edu 
  (Toshi Takeuchi) writes:
> I was asked what kind of things I did for protection, i.e. prayers or
> invocations.
> ...
> 
> Finally, the most useful tool:
> 
> THE LIFE MAP:
> 
> This is a focus through the heart and above the head.  It can be used for
> protection and healing of yourself and others.
> 
> 1.  You focus through the heart and above the head.
> 
> 2.  Put your hands together, thumbs touching, and forefingers touching to
>     make a triangle.  Your palms are facing outward.
> 
> 3.  Place the triangle in front of your chest, so that the focus is through
>     the heart and triangle.
> 
> --This technique is active on many levels...

This past Saturday I bought a book on this subject called                 
"Psychic Self-Defence & Well-Being".  On the cover is pictured a
woman with her hands in this formation but they are placed in front of her
forhead in front of her third eye.  I have only read the paragarphs describing
the contents and the study guide but it looks to be a pretty good book.

Have fun

   =-Kathy->                                        waddell@firnvx.firn.edu
From: kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Bonus, Iniquus, Celer - Delegitus Duo)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: What's your SIQ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 08:07:55 EST

In article <3y0sTB4w165w@kalki33>, kalki33!system@lakes.trenton.sc.us writes:
> kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Bonus, Iniquus, Celer - Delegitus Duo) writes:
>> God must have a sense of humor.  Just look at the world He created.  (8:-) fo
>> the humor-impaired.)
> Of course, God is the author of humor, happiness, goodness, etc.
> However, although it is not "politically correct" to mention it, God is
> also the author of misery, ignorance and illusion. This must be so since
> God is the author of everything.
[...]
> 
> When one considers that this is the actual situation in the material
> world, one becomes sober.

Well, I guess in conclusion that I feel sorry for you.  It sounds to me like
you are in a deep depression, and have no desire to get out.  

GXKambic
sd