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From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: PowerBook 170 <--> Ethernet <--> Sun ..... HELP
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:11:02 GMT

.Edu> grw@cartan.tmc.edu (George R. Wilkens) writes:

   1. Does anyone make an ethernet card for a PB 170? I doubt that anyone does,
      but you never know.

Nopt card, but there are SCSI ethernet boxes; means he won't have
EtherNet when he's running around, but that's sort of unnecessary,
wouldn't you say? :-)

   2. If I can not put an ethernet card in the PB 170, can I use an
      Apple Talk <---> Ethernet bridge?

You could use a GatorBox or Kinetics box that has LocalTalk <-> IP
translation, and use MacTCP on the PB to run MacX. I've done it, it
works. (With the right stuff, you can run MacX over Remote Access,
a little slow in 14,400 but bearable!)

As for mac-based SMTP clients, there's a few names I have heard such
as PopMail & Eudora.

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From: jmale@melpo.inria.fr (Jean-Michel Male)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: English usage
Keywords: Its and it's
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:36:59 GMT
Reply-To: jmale@cosinus.inria.fr
Organization: INRIA Sophia Antipolis

In article <1992Aug27.135432.857@client61.comlab.ox.ac.uk>, carroll@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Carroll Morgan) writes:
C.Morgan|>       This is of course not the group for a -discussion- either of grammar or of
C.Morgan|>       linguistic imperialism. However:

		 Of course not. ;-)

C.Morgan|>       The posting about "it's" and "its" was not a criticism --- it was a
C.Morgan|>       statement of fact. If the language of comp.sys.mac.misc were French, say,
C.Morgan|>       then one of its attractions would, to some people, be the opportunity of
C.Morgan|>       improving their French.

		 It was clear (for me at least) that this was not a criticism
		 against non-English speaking netters. In all cases,
		 it would be a very very very great idea to turn the
		 language of comp.sys.mac.misc to, say, French [Re ;-) ]
		 But where is the fun if anybody must understand what
		 the poster originally expressed, instead of understanding
		 what they want to flame or to joke on ?

PS:		 Is the expression "to joke on" correct ? (true question)

C.Morgan|>       An easy way to remember which is which is to recall "his" and "he's". That
C.Morgan|>       establishes the pattern not only for "its" and "it's", but for "your"/"you're"
C.Morgan|>       and "their"/"they're" as well.

C.Morgan|>       Carroll Morgan

		 See you soon on the net.

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From: hunter@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Hunter Scales)
Subject: Re: Writing MAC-readable floppies from Sparcstation
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:19:40 GMT

mkl@rob.cs.tu-bs.de (Mario Klebsch DG1AM) writes:


>don't forget the posibility to transfer files > 1440k. Those files
>are automaticly splited to fit on the floppies(of course only when
>using GNU tar).

	could yuo elabrate on this?  I use suntar and I was frustrated a
	couple of times when I found a file larger than 1.4 Mbytes
	(If Monks had Macs).  Exactly how can you transfer a file
	larger than 1.4 Mbytes using Suntar?

>Mario						mkl@rob.cs.tu-bs.de
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From: REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: RE-MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:07:52 GMT
 <ewright.714853873@convex.convex.com> <ajross.714890195@husc10>
Organization: University of Maine System

Despite the fact that this is the wrong heading, I know ewright will
read it...
   Post your best (even theoretical) numbers of
a) MIPS
b) MFlops
c) pixels/second
d) kB/second disk speed.

   You have $6000 to spend on a system and an OS (yes, we will pretend
Windows is an OS. OS/2, System 7 and Unix/X-windows all qualify. DOS
could be counted, I guess).
   My offering, A customized, compatible:  Texgraphics CIS-486/50E

   50 MHz 486 with AMI BIOS, 256K 15 nS cache over internal 8k cache
   8 MB 60 nS RAM (upgradeable to 64MB on board)
   Orchid Prodesigner IISE EISA (32-bit bus) 16-bit graphics card
      capable of 1280x1024 resolution
   AMI Fast Disk II caching SCSI controller (386sx-16 as a controller)
      with 4MB disk cache - (This is like using a Mac Classic II as a
      dedicated disk cache system for a Quadra!)
   Cabletron Ethernet card (added to make up for Quadra's Ethernet expense)
   Microsoft two-button bus mouse
   NEC 14" 3FGx Monitor
   Microscience 14 mS access, 676MB SCSI-II drive with 500K hr. MTBF and
      64K look-ahead track buffer.
   2 serial ports, 1 parallel port.
   Math coprocessor (built in to 486)

   three available 32 bit slots for expansion.
   Loaded with operating system (choose anything but System n (Mac) for
   this puppy! OK- Unix would be BSD 386 freeware...

I'll dig up the numbers i posted on this to C.S.I.P.H, but I tell you this,
the AMI card is rated at 18MB/sec on appropriate peripherals by AMI!  The bus
peaks at 33 MB/sec in burst mode and the video is not surpassed by anything
short of a TMS34020/50 coprocessed video (that I know of)...
  While I find my numbers, go borrow a friends stripped Quadra for $6000 and
get your numbers, Mr Wright.  IE- put up or shut up!

Jeff Andle    !   I Like Macs, as far as word processors go, It's Mac users
U. Maine      !   that I find objectionable...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: usdta004@mmm.serc.3m.com (Timothy S. Shea)
Subject: Re: MACS COST TOO MUCH (NOT!)
Organization: 3M - St. Paul, MN  55144-1000 US
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 19:12:26 GMT

From article <ewright.714845483@convex.convex.com>, by ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright):
>>If you buy one of the mid-class or bigger PS/2 you get OS/2.
> 
> You get more than that.  You get OS/2 and the right to pay through
> the nose when IBM upgrades to OS/2 v3 or OS/3 or whatever may come
> next.
>

I had to correct this.  IBM has NEVER   NEVER charged for upgrades to
OS/2.  And according to IBM officials they never will.  If you bought
version 1.0 then you can upgrade to version 2.x free.

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compuserve: 76300,1230                  Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing
From: 00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Where is IconWrap? (was re: Too Many INIT Icons)
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:53:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.092231.21432@etek.chalmers.se>, janolov@cdg.chalmers.se (Jan-Olov Lantto) writes:
>>In article <gurman.714932342@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov> (comp.sys.mac.misc),
> gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman) writes:
>>
>>    I seem to remember that there's an app or cdev or something that
>>arranges INIT icons in rows on startup so they don't disappear off the
>>right-hand edge of the screen. Does anybody remember the name and an ftp
>>location?
>>
> Try IconWrap. I think you can find it on sumex (36.44.0.6).

Which directory is it under?  I presume it'd be an init or CDEV...and I've
looked in both the cp and ex directories...NADA!  if someone out there could
point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it greatly!

Bruce

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From: Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Searching for custom mouse pads
Date: 2 Sep 1992 18:19:30 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: macdrf_43.dfci.harvard.edu
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6CA7FB2C5034F9B@macdrf_43.dfci.harvard.edu>
X-XXDate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 19:26:58 GMT

Greetings, Mac users.

I'm looking to design custom mouse pads for my company and am searching
for competitive prices. The only people I've spoken with are Computer
Expressions, Inc. in PA. I understand that there's a company in Utah
called Data Pad, which makes pads with a clear lid under which you can
insert shortcut charts and such. Would anyone either:

1. Have the address or phone # for Data Pad?
2. Know of any other companies that make custome mouse pads?

Any information would be appreciated.
Many thanks!

Paco Ojeda

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rjacks@austlcm.sps.mot.com (rodney jacks)
Subject: Re: Searching for custom mouse pads
Organization: Motorola Inc, Austin, Texas
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:03:33 GMT

In article <1830jiINN6gi@early-bird.think.com> Paco Ojeda <Paco_Ojeda_Gonzalez@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu> writes:
>I'm looking to design custom mouse pads for my company and am searching
>for competitive prices. The only people I've spoken with are Computer
>Expressions, Inc. in PA. I understand that there's a company in Utah
>called Data Pad, which makes pads with a clear lid under which you can
>insert shortcut charts and such. Would anyone either:
>
>1. Have the address or phone # for Data Pad?
>2. Know of any other companies that make custome mouse pads?
>
>Any information would be appreciated.
>Many thanks!
>
>Paco Ojeda

What about MouseTrak Inc.  They make most of the mouse pads I've seen;
nice, cushy ones.  Their address & phone used to be (ie. I haven't
contacted them in quite a while):
    MouseTrak, Inc.
    3047 St. Helena Highway
    St. Helena, CA  94574       
    707/963-8179

-Rodney
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.amiga
From: jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799... WHO CARES! Just try to emulate it.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 04:07:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep02.184109.8805@microsoft.com> darekm@microsoft.com (Darek Mihocka) writes:
>The $799 Falcon, who cares! Atari has a long history of announcing vaporware
>and then either never releasing the product, releasing it in extremely
>small quantities (to be able to claim that they shipped it), or they ship
>it either severly crippled or at a much higher price.

MANY music people care because ST has worldclass MIDI software not 
found on PC!  Over 50000 people at German Atari show (one week ago)
saw and TRIED OUT Falcon 030s.  Since Falcons are compatible with
great ST MIDI software and will have ability for PC/MAC emulation 
for very low price then many people have mailed me (over 100) with
interest.

>
>All this vapor and failing to ship a product gave me a nice idea for a program.


Yes many people notice Gemulator PRICE DROPS so fast after Falcons announced!!
Confident claims about vapor not matched by confidence about Gemulator
selling price.

>In a few days I'll be release a shareware program called Gemulator. It's
>a 68000 emulator that runs on MS-DOS, and with the appropriate Atari ROM
>chips plugged into your PC, it emulates an Atari ST.

OK some questions!

a. If Gemulator emulates ST what percent of MIDI software works now?
b. What PC MIDI boards working with Gemulator?
c. What is speedup of ST software on popular 386 machine with 4 megabyte?

>Give me a few months to
>add 68030 emulation and you'll have yourself a Falcon emulator. Don't waste
>your money on the real thing and hell, why even lose sleep over it. Chances are
>slim that you'll see Falcons flooding dealer shelves any time soon.

OK so you promise people can BUY Falcon emulator in few months.  You
have good warning about VAPORWARE so entire world can trust you will
have Falcon emulator out in six months.

Falcon has 16 mhz 68030, 32 mhz 56001 DSP, SCSI2, 8 channel 16 bit stereo
DMA,... and $799 list price so your Falcon emulator will be great!!!!

>
>Check Compuserve and GEnie in a few days for the Gemulator file.
>
>- Darek

Please keep people informed about Falcon emulator too!
From: rperry@uswat.uswest.com (Roy Perry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Where to find QuickTime Movies
Date: 25 Aug 92 20:07:27 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: US WEST Advanced Technologies

Can anybody tell me where to find ftp-able Quicktime movies? You can
respond via email if you like. Thanks.

Roy Perry
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rules about designing networks ----
From: et@ocf.berkeley.edu (Eric Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: I want to turn my handwriting into a Mac font
Date: 25 Aug 1992 20:56:29 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lightning.berkeley.edu

Actually, I don't; my girlfriend does :)  But I recall seeing an ad
in a Mac magazine for a compnay that provided this exact service: they
would take samples of your handwriting and turn it into a font for
your Mac (Type 1?)

I'm unable to find a copy of that ad, so if someone knows and could give
me the relevant info, or point me towards an issue/page no. of a relatively
recent Mac magazine, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks -- and please e-mail, I don't read this group.

Eric
et@ocf.berkeley.edy
From: ozakaria@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Oki Zakaria)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Stepstone's ObjC compiler
Date: 4 Sep 92 03:35:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA


	Hi, 
	Does anyone know whether Stepstone produces Objective C
	compiler for Macintosh? 

	If yes, how much is the price? 
	What about the available objects. Are they sufficient for
	building the Mac interface? Is there any Mac interface
	builder which generates ObjC?

Thanks a lot.

Oki Zakaria
ozakaria@ds5000.dac.northeastern.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.programmer
From: cpage@adobe.com (Chris Page)
Subject: Re: RTF definition/interpretation...somebody goofed!!? HELP!! (medium long)
Organization: Adobe Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:18:39 GMT

In article <6627@uakari.primate.wisc.edu>, bin@primate.wisc.edu (Brain in Neutral) writes:
> 
> From article <1992Aug24.115156.23754@zoe.network23.com>, by terry@zoe.network23.com (Terry):
> 
> I submit that this is not the way a style should work (nor is my experience
> that this is the way they DO work - when they work).  There is no point
> to having a stylesheet at all if the definition of the style must be
> repeated in each paragraph to which it is supposed to apply.
> 
> What is the point of a stylesheet, if not to be able to select a style
> simply by referring to the style ID?  If you have to repeat the definition
> each time, then the stylesheet itself if vestigial.

There is a difference between what Word (or any RTF reader/writer) does
with style sheets once they have been read and the way they are expressed
in the RTF file format.

Word lets you mark some text with a style, and if you change the style, all the
text formatting will change appropriately, and this is how most word processors
with style sheets work.

RTF, however, is not a word processor; it is a file format. It is intended to be
easily parsable by RTF readers. Style sheets are declaired at the start of the
file and readers that recognize style sheets can use them when editing the
document. While reading the document text, the actual format of the text is always
explicitly defined along with the style sheet ID. For readers that DO NOT use
style sheets, all they have to do is ignore them and read the explicit format
information. For readers that DO use style sheets, they are responsible for
ignoring or otherwise appropriately reading the explicit formatting along with
the references to the associated style.

What this means is: the RTF format is not necessarily related to how word
processors work.

Chris Page
Adobe Systems, Inc.
cpage@adobe.com

Disclaimer: these are my own opinions. My employer knows nothing about this.
So let's just keep this our little secret, eh?

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:15632 comp.unix.misc:3416 comp.unix.aux:3273 comp.sys.mac.apps:13884
From: crosdawg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Crosby Marks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.unix.misc,comp.unix.aux,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Man to RTF
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: crosdawg@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Crosby Marks)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: crosdawg@dopey.cc.utexas.edu

Will someone please tell me where I can get a translator for the Unix 
man pages to RTF or someother commonly used format.

Crosby
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From: magnuson@jupiter.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Bruce D. Magnuson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: FrameMaker/Xante printing question.
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:58:11 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I'm posting this for a friend, so please respond to him via e-mail at
GoBroncos@aol.com. Thanks.
--------------------------
Question: Does anyone have any experience using FrameMaker and the Xante
Accelwriter installed in a LaserWriter II? When printing from FrameMaker
there was a problem with very light printing of imported graphics files, the
files printed  very lightly much lighter than  from a standard Laserwriter
II. The graphics were TIFF files and a Sun Raster File. 

Is there  a setting in FrameMaker required to achieve 600dpi print resolution
on high resolution printers? According to tech support at Xante there should
not have been that type of degredation. Please send in suggestions or
questions by mail to "GoBroncos@aol.com". I do not have regular access to
internet.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon)
Subject: Re: Keeping system in ROM (already one there!)
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:38:40 GMT

 Actually, the Mac Classic II has System 6.03 built into the ROMs. You can't
boot from it, but you can call it up, and copy it to floppies for use in
other Macs. Process? Hold down the Command-Shift-O-X keys when cold booting
the computer. A RAM disk pops up with (ta-da!) System 6.03
 
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From: carroll@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Carroll Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: English usage
Keywords: Its and it's
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:11:05 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
Originator: carroll@client61.comlab

In written English, at the moment anyway, "its" means "belonging to it", and "it's"
means "it is". Thus for example 

	Its orange? It's orange!

Carroll Morgan
From: gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Too many INIT icons
Summary: Software to arrange INIT
Keywords: INIT, icons, startup
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:19:02 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center


    I seem to remember that there's an app or cdev or something that
arranges INIT icons in rows on startup so they don't disappear off the
right-hand edge of the screen. Does anybody remember the name and an ftp
location?
    Thanks,
				Joe Gurman
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: lorenzo@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Eric J. Lorenzo)
Subject: Startup and desktop patterns
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:31:23 GMT

I knew how to do this all before, but I have forgotten since it has been a few
years.  Maybe someone can e-mail me with help to the folowing questions:

1)How do you make a startup picture?
2)How do you get a picture for your desktop pattern?

I also used to have INITs that would randomize both the startup and desktop.
Anyone know the names?

Thanks in advance(again)!
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From: gasser@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nathan Gasser ><>  )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Utility for mass, unattended GIF -->  PICT conversion?
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:06:36 GMT


Hi all,

Well, like the subject says, I'd like to be able to convert
a whole gang of GIF files to PICTs without having to open
each one in GIFconverter, Save As..., give a new name, etc.

Imagery seems not to work on my particular gifs in question --
they're greyscale and Imagery invents these psychadellic colors
and other assorted harrassments.

Any info?  Hey, a unix utility to do the same would be just as spiffy.

Thanks,
Nate


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