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From: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
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Subject: Dark Empire #6
Date: 13 Nov 1992 06:02:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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I just read Dark Empire #6.  Therefore
I hope the Ctrl-L worked.  I thought it was a pretty weak
ending to the series.  Everything seemed like it came out of
a fairy tale.  Luke and Leia combining forces to turn the
Emperor's power against himself.  How bad can ou get?  I
feel bad because I liked the series as a whole.  I'll wait
for the next series.

Howard
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Howard Shiau                       bc751@cleveland.freenet.edu
Cosyde Corporation
From: 907fanjoy@gw.wmich.edu
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Subject: READ THE
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:09:06 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University


	PLEASE PAY ATTENTION TO...
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From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith)
Subject: Re: Cute dinosaur scene cut from SW  
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:54:44 GMT

In article <92315.141050BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu>, Brian Panulla, MooCow <BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes about my masterpice:
>>     I recently came across a copy of THE STAR WARS STORYBOOK (10th
>>edition, 1978), published by Scholastic Book Services. This is a kiddie
>>version of the Star Wars movie and has text and pictures. But there are
>>some pictures in this book, taken from the movie, which do NOT appear in
>>the Star Wars movie on laserdisk or VHS.
>>
> AAAAEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIYYYYY! RUN AWAY! It's the THREAD THAT NEVER DIES (tm) !!!!
> 
OK let's all kill the thread about Biggs, but what about the stormtrooper
on the big dino? My brother, I will repeat, is a DINO freak, and insists that
in the theatre there exists a CLOSEUP, just likes card #24 of Topps Star Wars,
of the white guy on the cute green DINO. I think that there a LOT of Tatooine
scenes (new threads/controversies guys?), that were cut for the final edit
and for film continuity. It is a COMMON practice to change movies for home
video (Predator had all the GOOD swear words edited out! I loved Jesse Ventura
, wrestlings FIRST mayor, as he spewed out the profanities. Where WAS he on
the home video?) .

PS Give in to your hate! 
 
-- 

John P. LaRocque
4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca

"Farm chores sure could be dull, and Luke Skywalker was bored beyond belief.
He yearned for adventures out among the stars - adventures that would take him
beyond the furthest galaxies to distant and alien worlds.

"But Luke got more than he bargained for..."
                            from Star Wars the paperback (1976, first edition)

"Urk..urk..."
"Apologies accepted", Darth Vader
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From: dgoldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Daniel Robert Goldman)
Subject: Re: Vader's Tie Fighter
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  5 Nov 92 19:18:38 GMT

un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:

>If the bent wing design was superior to the normal wing design, especially in
>regards to the maneuverability of the ship, why didn't ALL Tie fighter get
>modified with these advances?  It doesn't make sense to have a valid, and
>proven breakthrough, and only use them on half your ships.

Even the Empire doesn't have unlimited resources!  You might as well ask why
they didn't build a fleet of Death Stars.  They probably wanted to, but
couldn't do it instantaneously.  And besides, the flat-wing TIE may have other
advantages we really know nothing about (better mileage, lower emissions, rear
window defrost, power steering, you know ;-).  It's always good military 
strategy to have a wide range of resources at your command, even if some of 
them are older models.  For instance, C-130s have been around forever, and 
were used by the military for certain purposes long after the jet engine was 
invented (I think the military no longer uses them, but they're still used in 
fighting forest fires).
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:37:41 EST
From: Jim <JXD132@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: new thots on ENDOR
 <1992Nov7.224701.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca> <lfpppuINN4sk@earth.cs.utexas.edu>

Ok... in the same vain as City of Love.
How about Philadelphia, which translates literally as "City of Brotherly Love"?
We know it a one word... somebody, somewhere is thinking "is that the city
_called_ Brotherly Love or a city _in_ Brotherly Love?"  Thus to them it's
one word and not ambiguous, to us it ha no translation so they took what
its actual meaning was... well... _maybe_!! :)

I can't say I'm crazy about the idea... but its a valid possibility.

-- Jim Durrell
   JXD132 @ PSUVM.PSU.EDU
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From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
Subject: Re: SW Halloween Costumes
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:43:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.185627.9167@ncsu.edu> albusacc@eos.ncsu.edu (ALEXANDRIA LIN BUSACCA) writes:
>
>I also dressed up as Darth Vader.  Everyone at the party got a kick out
>of seeing a short(5'5''),female DV.  What did you use for his chest plate?
>I took a piece of cardboard, painted it black, then detailed it.

   Since I put the costume together in less than 3 days, I didn't have
much time to get a chest plate.  I did have a nice, wide black plastic
belt, though.... :-)

-- 

Craig Coffin          |  "Try not.  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
craig@odie.cs.mun.ca  |       -- Yoda, TESB

Organization: Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 08:58:44 -0500 
From: Alice R Siegler <as4r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Lightsabers, their weight, and all that jazz.

>This brings up an interesting theoretical aspect:  What happens if you
>drop a lightsaber, point downward?
 
-- 
I think that the lightsabers usually went off as soon as they left the
hand of the jedi using them.

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From: garvey@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Heather Garvey)
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Subject: Re: OMmark hamill's accident
Date: 9 Nov 1992 14:44:56 GMT
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mbecke69@ursa.calvin.edu (Mark Becker) writes:
>ch134@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michelle Guydosh) writes:
> was flipping through the TV guide a few months ago and saw that someone asked
>>for more info on mark hamill.One of the things said was that he had a accident
>>that altered his apperance.  Can anyone give more details on this.
>
>I don't know tons about it, but he got in a near-fatal car accident between
>ANH and ESB, and had to have major reconstructive surgury on his face.  They
>say that if you look closely at his face in ANH and the others, you can notice
>the difference, but I've never caught it.  I just figured he was growing up.:)

	I heard that's why in ESB, Luke gets walloped early on in the movie,
so he can walk around with big bruises and cuts on his face, to cover up
whatever reconstructive surgery they were doing at the time. Whether he
was still getting fixed up or whether he was just healing after the surgery
was finished, I'm not sure. But he does manage to stay either very grimy
or beat-up-on the entire movie.... :-)

--
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and gives me thoughts of breaking things and torturing  | Garvey, Biochem 93'
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
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Subject: David Prowse (was: Mark Hamill on QVC 10/28/92)
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:48:48
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In-reply-to: Ray.Chramega's message of Thu, 05 Nov 1992 16:23:05 GMT


>	Prowse learned the script (or at least the version they gave
>him) and spoke the lines during filming. Jones' voice was dubbed in
>later. This was a surprise to Prowse when _Star Wars_ was released,
>as they'd told him nothing of the dubbing job. They also did not tell
>him that Vader died in _Jedi_-- or that someone else would be playing
>the unmasked Anakin Skywalker.

I had heard that Prowse was SUPPOST to play the unmasked Vader, but he
had leaked some info about Jedi to the press. Lucas was so pissed, he
decided to replace him with a different actor as punishment. I can't
remeber where I heard this. Just one of those thinks. Anyone heard
this?


--
 Scott Streeter                             Visit the Star Wars Archive at
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From: pklinker@apollo.mcl.bdm.com (Paul Klinker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: The ? Empire
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:21:31 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.

I have a question about the Empire.  What is the name of the Empire?  As
far as I know empires have names e.g. the Roman Empire and the British
Empire.  Would the empire be name after the capitol planet or is it the
Palpatine Empire?  Anyone, anyone?

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From: 907fanjoy@gw.wmich.edu
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Subject: Re: Cute dinosaur scene cut from SW
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:56:52 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov11.215708.14742@ll.mit.edu>, shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham) writes:
> In article <1992Nov11.152033.6294@ra.msstate.edu> paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil) writes:
>>
>>I saw the dino scene in Star Wars, but the dino was in the background
>>where the stormtrooper picks up the metal ring and says "Look sir, droids!"
>>
> Oh, so that's what that background thingy is. I always thought it was the
> lander (or perhaps a land vehicle) that the stormtroopers used to get to the
> life-pod crash-landing site. Perhaps an AT-AT in a mount/dismount position.
> 
> I suppose it could be that the empire used domesticated dinos for land
> transportation on Tatooine (like the rebel use of Tan-Tan on Hoth). I doubt
> that a wild dino would be left alive by nearby stormtrooper under the "there
> will be no one to stop us this time"

	I'm not thinkin' that "wild dinos" are going to to try that hard
to get the plans before some stormtroopers can.
  
> While on the subject of Dino's on Tatooine:
> 
> C3-PO walks past the bones of a rather larger animal just before being
> "rescued" by the Jawas. Hence, such large creatures must populate the planet.
> Rancor (Jabba's pet monster that Luke killed), may be of the specie that those
> bones belong to. Would you classify Rancor as a dino?
> 
> What do you guys think?

	I think you're smokin' crack.  First of all, the "dino" you guys
are talking about is an imperial Patrol Dewback.  Stormtroopers ride them.
Not everyone in the Empire is stoopid, else they'd not have control of the 
galaxy.
	Next, the Rancor is bipedal.  The Dewback is a quadroped.  And the
skeleton belongs to a Krayt Dragon (read the novelization or the SW
sourcebooks), which appears to have no legs at all.  Same species?  I
THINK NOT!
	And finally, there ARE NO DINOSAURS IN STAR WARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Big lizards, snakes, monsters, and even AT-ATs, yes... but no dinos.

	Read my earlier post explaining the Dewback.  It's under the
same heading as this one.  And yes, I suppose I should have looked to
see if anyone else delineated this to you fellows.  However, I had to
post my views for all to see.

		--Dave "Y-Wings and Boba Fett are Cool" Fanjoy
From: japhet@romulus.rutgers.edu (APJ)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: C-3PO and the Princess
Date: 8 Nov 92 04:06:49 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>>R2 bleeps something to 3PO, and 3PO responds, "Secret mission? What secret mis-
>>sion? What plans? What are you talking about?!?" This tells me that 3PO never 
>>knew of R2's plans to find Obi-wan. So my question is, why didn't C-3PO tell
>>Luke who Leia was when Luke discovered R2-D2's secret message toward the begin-
>>ning of ANH?
>>
>>	Anyone,anyone...Bueller,Bueller,...
>>
>>				-"There will be no one to stop us this time!"
>>

The main problem here, is the fact that there are really two secret missions.
See, Leia was NOT supposed to be involved with the Death Star transmissions, 
she was just trying to reach Obi-Wan on Tatooine. Everyone knew about this, as
far as I know (From what I remeber, and what I have figured out, 3PO and R2
are extemely old droids, probably around since Luke was born... that is why
they know so much of the Rebellion... ), anyway. On their trip to grab
Ben, they recieved the transmission, and the rest is history. At that point
there were the two missions, both of which r2 knew about, but the second
3PO was probably completely clueless about.
						RJ
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 11:17:44 -0500 
From: "Nathanel J. Barlow" <nb2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Elapsed Time (was Re:Han's rank)
	<1992Nov6.142724.3952@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
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In message <1992Nov6.142724.3952@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>,
un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:

(stuff deleted)

>	The only reasonable thing I can see is that we are supposed to >assume
>that the Rebels were otherwise occupied, but Chewie, and Lando >obviously
>weren't.  All and all, the whole thing is a little shaky if you ask me.

There are several reasons why they took so long to rescue Han.  You
mention Chewie and Lando not being thus occupied--how close did they
come to failing with the rest of the gang there as well.  They probably
realized early on that they would need more than just those two.  So
while the Rebels were having whatever problems they were having with the
Empire or whatnot, Lando infiltrated.  Then there's Luke.  Look at the
difference in skills between TESB and ROTJ.  He first had to go through
Ben's old stuff (probably found or learned a lot never shown in the
movies) and then construct a new lightsabre--that can't be easy.  Then
he probably did mucho practicing to get to the state of abilities he had
in ROTJ.  That must have taken a long time.  At the point they believed
they had a good enough plan and Luke felt ready, they set out to rescue
Han.

Nate
nb2b@andrew.cmu.edu
From: 907fanjoy@gw.wmich.edu
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Subject: POSTS ABOUT THE
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:09:59 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

		OTHER postings on the same subject.

	It's really very annoying when...
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From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
Subject: Re: More CHALLENGING QUESTIONS-IF YOU DARE!!!
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:15:05 GMT

shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham) writes:
>
> If h-space was as thinly populated with objects as real space,
> pilots would jump to h-space (randomly) and upon exiting (in a
> hopefully quieter part of the galaxy) do a more calculated jump
> to wherever they are really going.

  In extreme emergencies, this is sometimes done, although it is
a very dangerous practice.  (This comes from the RPG and the Zahn
novels, so I don't know how "canon" it is.)

>Question: do we ever see the what the passengers see on the window while in
>hyperspace? (not while jumping, but while on "stright" flight). Do we see
>stars? planets? other objects?

Yes.  A number of scenes come to mind:

   1) In SW:ANH when the MF is arriving in the Alderaan system (well,
      what's left of it), a scene of the exterior of the MF is shown,
      against a swirling, cloud-like background.  The effect created
      is something like that of a tunnel.

   2) In RotJ, as the Rebel Fleet drops out of hyperspace, when they
      arrive at Endor, the same tunnel-like effect is seen from the
      cockpit of the MF.

   3) In ESB, when the Falcon (why is it ALWAYS the Falcon?) is in
      h-space, the tunnel effect is *not* seen through the cockpit
      window -- just a normal star field.  I don't know the exact
      scene, but I remember that it was mentioned on the net this
      past summer, and was dismissed as an FX-screwup.  :-)

-- 

Craig Coffin          |  "Try not.  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
craig@odie.cs.mun.ca  |       -- Yoda, TESB

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From: sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Subject: Re: Teleportation
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:31:09 GMT

nnhill@david.wheaton.edu  writes:
>> Probably not. a) Luke says "...not unless you can alter time, speed up the
> harvest, or teleport me off this rock." Most people would probably agree that
> Luke was being sarcastic. Threepio taking him seriously is meant to be funny.
> b) If such technology existed, it would greatly alter the SW universe...why
> would people use shuttles all the time? You'd think the technology would be
> important somewhere, but nothing like it is ever shown to us.
> 
There is no teleportation or transporters in Star Wars.  The
people of the Star Wars universe have recognized the
"transporter" (or teleporter) for what it is:  a scientifically
absurd plot device with far too much potential for abuse to
allow it to exist.

Steve
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From: jad44314@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Janet A Dornhoff)
Subject: Re: STAR WARS versus GALACTICA
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:22:03 GMT

4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (J. LaRocque) writes:
>...and while nothing, I repeat, nothing (that means you,
>trekkies!) can beat the magic of Star Wars...

>...but to this day, not one television series
>(this includes you Trekkies!) can add up to the adventure, action and charm

"Star Wars is adolescent nonsense, Close Encounters is obscurantist drivel,
Star Trek will turn your brains into puree of bat guano, and the greatest
science-fiction show in the world is Doctor Who!  And I'll take you all
on, one by one or all in a bunch, to prove it!"

           -from the introduction to several Doctor Who novels

(No flames, please, I think they're all great, I just thought the quote
was exceedingly appropriate  :-)  :-)   :-)

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"Spock!  How many ways are there to be killed on this planet?"
"Approximately five, Captain."
"Right.  You, myself, and five security men will beam down..."
                         -Star Trek Comedy: The Unofficial Album
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From: meierdalepau@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re:  Model of Imperial Shuttle!
Date: 12 Nov 92 08:30:20 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

	Yes, there was at one time.  I think it was made by MPC, but I'm 
not sure.

Dale Meier
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From: dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: STAR WARS MUSIC
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:25:33 GMT
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In article <1992Nov12.120529.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes...
>Classic "Damned-If-You-Do/Damned-If-You-Don't" Department:
> 
>The STAR WARS soundtrack was released as a double CD.  The fact of the matter,
>however, is that the entire album is only about 3 MINUTES too long to fit on a 
>single disc!  Go ahead -- feel annoyed that you're paying twice as much for
>what could almost have been a single-disc release.  BUT --

Actually the full Star Wars soundtrack is about 75 minutes long.  Since I 
own two 76-minute CDs and know that 80-minute ones exist, it's fairly 
obvious that the SW soundtrack COULD fit on one CD.  Why isn't it?  The two 
possible reasons I've come up with: (a) there is some loss in sound quality 
when putting that much music on one disc, or (b) the record company is 
greedy and wanted the extra money from selling 2 CDs.  (This seems either 
unlikely or downright stupid, since they're probably losing as much to the 
people (like me) who refuse to pay for 2 CDs when it could fit on one.)

--Gallandro

    "Take it easy, kid.  It's only a movie."   --Ham Salad, "Hardware Wars"
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:32:44 EST
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
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Subject: Re: It *WAS* Ratzenberger
 <YeyyzLS00VAxQUBkwu@andrew.cmu.edu>

Doesn't Threepio say to Luke and Han in the Death Star comm. room:

"The princess is here"?
Wouldn't that imply he knew her name, rather than just a random Princess?

Been WAY TOO LONG since I've seen the Trilogy... WAY TOO LONG  :(
---
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                   The American University -- Kenobi on IRC
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From: dlf@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Daniel L Fabrizius)
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Subject: Re: Wookiee Christmas special!
Date: 9 Nov 1992 01:08:19 -0600
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In <1992Nov9.062026.29037@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:

>In article <BxF898.DI1@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>>Do you have interesting memories of this show? Was anyone else in it
>>from the actual film (besides Chewie)?

>  I remember Leia singing and Chewie's little brother playing with a 'radio'
>  that gets smashed by an Imperial, but that's about it.
>-- 
All of the major characters made an appearance of some sorts.  They also used
a lot of footage from the movies.  Space flights and battles and stuff.  Some
of these may not have been in the movies and were left over.  I'm not sure.
Also in it was Art Carney, Bea Arthur, Starship, Harvey Korman....

Based on Chewie's home planet.  We see his wife, son and father.  There is	also a cartoon interlude that depicts Luke meeting Boba Fett.

I picked up a copy at a comic book convention about a year ago.  I remembered
it being so much better. =)

-- 
Danny Fabrizius       dlf@ksuvm.ksu.edu      dlf@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
                   
Your life is equipped with a memory function.
This in no way should substitute for new experience.
From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Cliff Claven Figure
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:51:09 GMT
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>I love my Cliff Claven figures. I have two of 'em. It's fun to sit one of them
>down next to the Rancor Keeper and say, "another beer, Narmy?"
>
>By the way, Han Solo in Trench Coat (aka "Han Solo in 1983 haircut") makes a
>good Sam. Of course Luke Skywalker can be used for Woody; but unfortunately 
>there is no suitable "Diane" figure...oh,well.

No, but I bet the Leia from Jedi makes a good Rebecca, and the one from
ANH would make a good Lilith Crane.

-- 
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