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From: rick@ricksys.LoneStar.org (Richard McCombs)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Unix BBS List Wanted
Date: 7 Apr 92 11:33:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.telecom12.305.2
Reply-To: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org
Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, OK
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 305, Message 2 of 7

gmeiers@edsi.plexus.COM (Garrett Meiers) writes:

> Does anybody have a list of UNIX Bulletin Board numbers? I have a list
> that's about five years old and quite outdated.

> [Moderator's Note: Whatever happened to the nixpub listings which used
> to appear in Usenet from time to time? Are they still being posted?  PAT]

Yes.  I don't get comp.misc or alt.bbs but I grab a copy every once in
a while using anonymous uucp.

> From the February, 28, 1992 edition ...

      Lists are available from any of the following:
            o  anonymous uucp from jabber.
                    +1 215 348 9727 [Telebit access]
                    login: nuucp  NO PWD   [no rmail permitted]
                this list: /usr/spool/uucppublic/nixpub.short
                long list: /usr/spool/uucppublic/nixpub
            o  "*NIX Depot" BBS on jabber.
            o  USENET, regular posts to:
                    comp.misc
                    alt.bbs
            o  the nixpub electronic mailing list.
                    to be included or deleted from this distribution,
                    send mail to nixpub-list-request@ls.com.
            o  anonymous ftp from GVL.Unisys.COM [128.126.220.102]
                    under ~/pub/nixpub/{long,short}
            o  archive server from cs.widener.edu.
	            mail to archive-server@cs.widener.edu
	            Subject: or body of
		            send nixpub long
	             or
		            send nixpub short
	             or
		            send nixpub long short
	             or even
                            index nixpub


Internet: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org,      bo836@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From: jon_sree@world.std.com (Jon Sreekanth)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Phone Home (tm): New Telephone Toy
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:32:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.telecom12.311.5
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 311, Message 5 of 11

I bought this at a local department store (Lechmere, in the Boston
area, $14.99) and thought readers would be interested.

It's a small plastic pendant, about 1 1/4" by 2" and about 1/2" thick,
with a chain and a clip at the other end of the chain. Almost like a
largish keychain. On one face of the pendant, there's a miniaturized
telephone keypad, with a large key marked home.  The reverse side has
an aperture for DTMF dialing sound to emerge.

The idea is that you clip this gadget on a kid, and if they get lost,
they can use it at a public telephone to call home (in case they
didn't remember their phone number).

The box has a picture of a small child holding the device at a
payphone. The spiel says "Allows children, even if they don't know
their number, or how to use a telephone, to phone home". It also lists
several endorsements on the back from Missing Children ... Help Center,
Vanished Childrens Alliance, etc.

In smaller print, it explains : operator assisted calls -- touchtone
service only. Batteries included.

They claimed there was a programming manual, but my box didn't have
one. Pressing the home key dials a number right now, I haven't tried
to trace what that default number is.

Inside the unit are two button cells, a small speaker, a ceramic
resonator, and some SMT parts. I couldn't find any chip, but there is
a black blob of waxy looking stuff (what's it?) which may conceal
something. Mfr. is Nimrod International, Clarksburg, NJ.  (I have no
connection with them).

Any comments? The gadget won't work on a pulse phone, and their
caution about "operator assisted calls" means they probably prefix
calls with 0. Is it simpler to just teach kids to dial 0?


Jon Sreekanth

Assabet Valley Microsystems, Inc.  
5 Walden St #3, Cambridge, MA 02140
(617) 876-8019   jon_sree@world.std.com
From: unkaphaed!dsterner@cs.utexas.edu (Don Sterner)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: FCC Changes Rules For Cordless Phones
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:28:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.telecom12.301.1
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 301, Message 1 of 13

0004056081@mcimail.com (George S Thurman) writes:

> In a surprise move today, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
> proposed that all persons using cordless phones must identify using
> the same guidelines now in effect for amateur radio operators: i.e.

Didja happen to notice the date of that message???


dsterner@unkaphaed.UUCP (Don Sterner)
Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy, (713) 943-2728
1200/2400/9600/14400 v.32bis/v.42bis


[Moderator's Note: Of course I noticed it! That's why I ran it, and
I'm sorry I was otherwise occupied on the first and could not run it
in a more timely fashion!  :)   PAT]
From: helfman@aero.org (Robert S. Helfman)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Hang-up Pirates
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:53:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.telecom12.313.1
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 313, Message 1 of 10

In article <telecom12.304.6@eecs.nwu.edu> warren@nysernet.org writes:

> I think most of the hang-ups that I get are idiots who are sure that
> if they don't hear person X's voice on the line that they must have
> the wrong number (it is impossible that someone is visiting person X
> and picked up the phone).  For extra points, some of them dial the
> number again and repeat the process.  And so on until I switch the
> answering machine to pick up after two rings.  Real bozos figure they
> have now reached a new number and keep trying a bit longer.

What I really love are the idiots who dial my number, I say hello,
they ask for whoever they're trying to reach, I ask "what number are
you trying to reach", they hang up, immediately call back, I say "if
you'd stay on the line so we could find out if this is the number you
think you dialed, we wouldn't waste any more time" and THEY GET
ATTITUDE! One crazy female crack-head (there was no doubt of it)
actually threatened me, said she knew people in the Rollin' 60's
(serious L.A. Crips sub-set), said she'd have them "burn down yo'
m----- f---'n house". I asked her how she was so sure where I live and
she said she has friends in the phone company. She called back twice
(I put on the answering machine) and I guess she had to go get her
next rock (for you eastern folks, that's her next dose of crack),
because she stopped calling. That was six months ago, and I guess my
house would have burned down long ago if she was 1) serious and 2)
remembered the number.

That' almost as bad as the telemarketers who get upset that I hang up
and call me back to tell me I'm rude. I'M RUDE?

There are an awful lot of people out there whose mama did not raise
them right!
From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Caller*ID Stops a Telemarketer
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:32:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 301, Message 13 of 13

If you are called by a junk caller, you post the number to a USENET
group.  An application then downloads all junk numbers identified by
anyone on the net, and applies them to your incoming calls.  If this
could be made effortless, it could be really useful.


John Nagle
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Sending Faxes Overseas
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:42:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.telecom12.322.7
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 322, Message 7 of 10

Bob_Frankston@frankston.com writes:

> In defense of Fax, faxes are severely compressed using coding that is
> tuned to typewritten documents.  The most widely used email systems
> lack the richness of representation and the simplicity available to
> the Fax users.  I haven't tested the particular message that Jim Rees
> sent, but I'd guess a 10k to 15K size for a corresponding fax.  This
> depends on fonts used and other details.  While this is still an order
> of magnitude above his ASCII size, we're talking about a second or
> three at 56KB (7K Bytes/Second)
 
   Where does this 56 KB come from?  As you may know, Group III
faxmodems (v.29) run at 9600 (half-duplex), and the proposed Group IV
faxmodems (v.17) will run at 14400.  Realistically, a 14400 modem will
not manage more than 1500-1700 cps, so a Group IV fax should take at
least ten seconds a page, while the corresponding text-only version
would take only two seconds a page.

   Then you have to add in the fact that most faxes use a cover-sheet,
which translates into a 15K header.
From: rees@pisa.citi.umich.edu (Jim Rees)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: What CO Equipment is Needed to Send Caller-ID?
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:19:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.telecom12.317.3
Reply-To: Jim.Rees@umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan IFS Project
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 317, Message 3 of 8

I had thought that only a digital switch could deliver caller-ID, but
someone mentioned getting it on a 1A ESS (the best CO switch in the
world).  Is that possible?  So that got me to thinking, what equipment
is needed at the CO end to send caller-ID?  Presumably it's just the
"mo" part of a modem, possibly attached to the ring generator.  Is
there a pool of these that get switched to individual lines as needed?
Does it require a new line card?

Caller-ID is not yet available in my exchange (a 1A of course), but
*67 started returning dial tone rather than reorder about three weeks
ago, so I guess they're getting ready.  I don't intend to subscribe.
From: KNXD@MARISTB.BITNET (John F. McMullen (at Marist))
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: 17th Annual Trenton Computer Festival
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:18:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.telecom12.300.4
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 300, Message 4 of 11

There will be a two-hour panel discussion on "Computer Crime & First
Amendment Concerns" at 10:30AM on Sunday, April 12th at the 17th
annual Trenton Computer Festival (TCF'92). I will moderate the panel
which will be composed of Donald Delaney, New York State Police Senior
Investigator responsible for computer crime and telecommunications
fraud; Mike Godwin, in-house counsel, Electronic Frontier Foundation
(EFF); Emmanuel Goldstein, editor & publisher - "2600:The Hacker
Quarterly; and Phiber Optik, well-know hacker (previously arrested by
Delaney).
 
TCF is the oldest computer festival/show in the world, preceeding even
the legendary "West Coast Computer Faire". It is held on Saturday &
Sunday, April 11 & 12th at Mercer County College, outside of Trenton,
NJ It will contain over 170 commercial exhibits, the largest computer
flea market on the East Coast (eight acres) and two days of seminars,
talks and panel dicussions. The keynote speaker (Saturday - 3:00 PM) is
Paul Grayson, CEO of Micrografx.
 
The New York Amateur Computer Club (NYACC), on of the festival's
co-sponsors, is providing bus service from New York City to and from
TCF. A bus leaves 11th Street and 6th Avenue at 8:00AM on Saturday and
8:30 on Sunday (The Sunday bus originates in Long Island). For
details, call Lewis Tanner (212 928-0577 between 7 and 9 PM).
From: yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Immediate ANI From Your 800 Number
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:06:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.telecom12.310.4
Organization: TELECOM Digest
X-Submissions-To: telecom@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Administrivia-To: telecom-request@eecs.nwu.edu
X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 310, Message 4 of 12

> [Moderator's Note: Your assumption is not wrong. You will get ANI with
> your monthly phone bill, at least from many carriers. Real time ANI is
> a bit more expensive, however.

What companies are currently offering real-time (immediate) ANI on 800
numbers, and how much more is "a bit more expensive", Pat?

I am aware of only MCI providing this, and requiring a T1 link to do
so.  This is out of my acceptable price range for a residential 800
number.

I really like my Cable & Wireless programmable 800 service, and I
think that there wouldn't be much other than software for their system
to make available the last n calling numbers by calling the same
computer that you call to reprogram the "normal" phone number that
your "programmable 800" number routes to.)

But they don't provide this service.

Any suggestions?

Bob Yazz


[Moderator's Note: I don't know how much more 'real time ANI' would
cost. I know my two 800 numbers cost around two dollars per month each
plus the cost of calls, and my billing at the end of the month has a
breakdown by number of callers. That's all I need or care about.  PAT]
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: st17t@menudo.uh.edu (David Bonds)
Subject: Re: Modem clicks Was : Supra v32bis (Initial Review)
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:41:09 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.123229.26678@odin.diku.dk> kensaga@diku.dk (Kenneth Fribert) writes:
>sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:
>
>>>>>Annoying supra "click!" when the modem goes OH at the start of a calll
>>>>Heh, my Zyxel does this too....
>>>Zoom modems do this also.  Sounds like a definite trend.
>
>In order to get it approved in some countries in Europe (ie. Denmark), a modem MUST have a relay which can handle 3000 volts (or thereabout), to get this the relay has to have a switch-'disstance' at 3 mm. Because of this it gives a click.
>A lot of modems do, other phone-line machines, such as answering-machines, faxes does this to.
>To say it shortly, it is very common.

Aha! This is the difference from the Hayes / USR "quiet" modems, and the
others.  I've heard USR and Hayes are hard to get approved for use in
some countries - now I know why.   Thanks for the info, Kenneth! 
-- 
---
Dave Bonds                          "Eagles may fly, but weasels don't  
InterNet : st17t@menudo.uh.edu         get sucked into jet engines!"      
The Cutting Edge - (713)466-1525 - HST / v32bis
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong)
Subject: Re: Final verdict on the Supra?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:50:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I like my SupraFax 14.4 a lot.  I haven't tested the fax aspect of the
modem though.  One small problem I've discovered is that the Suprafax
modem doesn't seem to auto-answer when the calling modem is a Telebit
T1500? (One of the older Telebits).  It'll auto-answer a V.32 modem
fine.  I'll put it down as a 9 out of 10. ^_^
-- 
+-------------------------------------------------+
| Albert Wong                                     |
| albertw@netcom.com                              |
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis FAXmodem
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:51:00 GMT

irving@eskimo.celestial.com (Larry Gilbert) writes:
>A recent Supra advertisement for this modem lists "Class 1 and 2 commands,
>and compatibility with the millions of Group 3 fax machines in use" among
>the modem's features.  To me, this says "Our modem only does Group 2 fax."
>But perhaps I'm wrong.  Perhaps (though this is a slightly silly thought)
>the Canon machine is not a Group 3 fax machine, and thus is incompatible.
*----
To me, it means that it is compatible with all Group 3 machines, and
can use the FAX Class I or Class II command sets.  Group 2 FAX
protocol has nothing whatsoever to do with the command set used.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
From: parker@gdls.UUCP (Doug Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: What pd modem software does Kermit on a Mac?
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:17:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: gdls.3340
Distribution: usa
Organization: General Dynamics Land Systems, Sterling Heights, MI

What's its name and from what server can I get it? 

E-mail please, using the address below. I'll summarize if there's interest.

Fly, cycle, bike, run, walk, in that order.
Douglas Parker      |   Computer Sciences Corporation
teemc!gdls!parker   |   Come home. (Isn't English wonderful!)   :-(
From: loomis@milton.u.washington.edu (Elaine Loomis)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: LPA and PEP upgrade
Summary: PEP upgrade not free under LPA
Keywords: LPA T3000 PEP not free
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:01:54 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

I'll be brief. I called Telebit (actually, they called me) and asked: is the
PEP upgrade free under LPA? answer: no, it'll cost you $199.
'nuf said?
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger)
Subject: Re: Are 16550'a pin compatible with 16450's?
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 19:50:56 GMT

jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick) writes:
: In <53491@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1610c@prism.gatech.EDU (MCGAUGH,MICHAEL KENNETH) writes:
: >I think I read in PC Mag that these two chips are pin compatible.  Is this
: >true?  If so, does that mean that I can take my 16450 out and plug in a
: >16550 then use software that recognizes it?  Also, will software that does
: >not utilize the 16550's abilities still work? 
: 
: yes. yes. yes.

Yes, they are pin compatible in 99% of the cards out today.

: For the last point, the software which doesn't know about the 16550 will
: still benefit, but not as much as one which does.
: 

No. If the software can't enable the FIFO on the chip, it will act EXACTLY
like a 16450, with NO improvement at all

Russ Poffenberger               DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com
Schlumberger Technologies       UUCP:   {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen
1601 Technology Drive		CIS:	72401,276
San Jose, Ca. 95110             Voice: (408)437-5254  FAX: (408)437-5246
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: frank@odetics.com (Frank Merrow)
Subject: "tip" mystery for Telebit Modem
Reply-To: frank@odetics.com (Frank Merrow)
Organization: Odetics, Inc., Anaheim, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 18:12:06 GMT

Hi,

Our system administrator showed me how to "tip telebit" to connect
directly to the modem and talk to it, change parameters or whatever.
It works great for him (always has).  However, when I try it
"tip" tells me "connected" but the modem doesn't respond to me
or even echo my characters back.  It is NOT a permissions problem
since as we looked into it we found that "root" has the same problem,
yet other users that seem to be in my group and so forth CAN
"tip telebit" and it works for them.  Any ideas what the variable
is or even hints as to what to look at?

Frank

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.mac.comm
From: gentry@predator.engin.umich.edu (Denton Gentry)
Subject: Re: Supra V.32bis (Disappointment)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 18:33:17 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Keywords: supra, v.32bis, v32bis, mac, macintosh
Originator: gentry@predator.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Apr6.172632.26295@unlv.edu>, sknkwrks@unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:
> In article <1992Apr3.230641.16672@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jsm2r@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (John S. Mitchell) writes:
> >Using the modem on a Mac IIsi, I set my software for hardware handshaking
> >and a communication rate of 57600 (computer to modem). Much to my chagrin,
> >the text that came through from all the bbs's I tried was marred by
> >numerous dropouts....
> >
> >Supra Tech solved my problem but only by dashing my hopes and dreams.
> >Their story was that the Mac serial port can connect to modems at no better
> >than 19200 baud.

  Do you have a hardware handshaking cable? 

Denny Gentry
University of Michigan
From: leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ZOOM 14.4k w/FAX modems
Keywords: ZOOM 14.4 FAX
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:20:46 GMT

Egghead has Zoom 14.4k modems for $300 and they say that the modems
include FAX.  I have a USR HST Dual Standard 14.4k modem which I paid
over twice that for.  What I am wondering is how do these modems work?
Is it as good at high speed operation as the USR HST DS?  I have found
the DS to work great, but the max DTE speed is only 38.4k and it doesn't
handle FAX.  For $300 I would like to have a second fast modem to use
when the other end only has a 2400 and I need to use a remote program
with the for a few days.  At this low price I could loan them the modem
to save on phone bills and maybe inspire them to upgrade their modem.

How does the FAX support work?  I have PCTools 7.1 and I think it supports
FAX boards somehow.  Will the Zoom modem act like a FAX board or does it
only work with their included software?

To send a FAX do you read into the FAX program a text file or do I have to
set my word processor to print epson/HPLazerjet output to a file.  I
think it would need to see a graphics image of what a printer like a dot-
matrix or lazer printer needs.  That way neat fonts and images can be sent,
but I'm not sure.

The idea of a spare/loaner high speed modem and FAX look good, but I have
no idea how well it works.


Thanks,

Mark

I just found this news group.  Sure wish I would have found it before I
picked up my USR HST DS one month before they released a new improved
version.  Damn, the new smaller modem has 57.6k DTE and is at least $50
cheaper.  Oh well.