HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jkusters@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chrome Jester)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Stuck at SFO, what to do?
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:18:20 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

I'm gonna be stuck at the San Francisco airport for 3 or so hours in mid
December.  Since I'm gonna be taking a 5 hour plane ride immediately
following, I don't think I'm gonna feel much like waiting around reading.
Anyone have some ideas of what I could do for 3 hours (between 8 and 11) in
South San Francisco?  I won't have a lot of money to run up to the City or
anything...

Thanks for any suggestions...

JOhn.

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But we can shed a little light, Be Political not Polite! -Romanovsky & Phillips
From: mikel@dosbears.UUCP (Mike Lipsie)
Newsgroups: ba.motss
Subject: Re: SUMMARY:Special restaurants
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:21:11 GMT
Reply-To: dosbears!mikel@pyramid.com
Organization: DOS Bears

In article <1992Nov14.011750.11844@netcom.com> foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye) writes:
>In article <lg7nt5INNrj4@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> jav@rhiannon.sitka.sun.com writes:
>>In regards to Restaurants:  
>>
>>Bay Wolf on Piedmont Ave in Oakland -  I ate there earlier
>>this year and if this restaurant is not totally homophobic...
>>I didn't know what it was like to be discriminated against
>>because I was gay until I ate there.  I wouldn't put a foot
>>in that place again - plus it is way over priced.
>>
>>Joyce
>
>Joyce, I'd like to know when this happened and what transpired
>that you considered homophobic. I have been eating at Bay Wolf
>for years and I know for a fact that if anything, the official
>policy of the place has been very queer-friendly. There are
>quite a few queer waitpeople and Bay Wolf participates in
>programs with other bay area restaurants to raise money for
>services for PWAs. 

Without knowing anything about the situation or the restaurant ...

There is (unfortunately) one way that your two experiences could
still be the norm.  We live in a misogynistic society and there
are [sadly] many gay men who amplify that.  It could be that Joyce
got one (or more) of those twits.

--
Mike Lipsie                            584 Castro #614, San Francisco, CA 94114
dosbears!mikel@pyramid.com
mikel%dosbears.uucp@ingres.com    Running rn (for DOS) with UUPC/Extended 1.11k
Newsgroups: ba.dance
From: loki@netcom.com (James E Myers)
Subject: Addams Family Christmas Ball
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:34:14 GMT

        	The Addams Family Victorian Christmas Mourning Ball

           	          Friday, December 18th
                              7:00 - Midnight

                          Arlington Community Chrch
		             52 Arlington Ave
                            Kensington, California

        An evening of mostly 19th Century dancing (with occasional
        "time warps" to the 18th and 20th Centuries), carolling and
        ghoulish revelry.  Wear something Gomez and Morticia would
        consider appropriate (Victorian costume in any "mourning"
        colors very welcome) or come as you are!  All dead music.

                             Admission $7.00

                      For further information contact 
           The Period Events and Entertainments Recreation Society
                                (415) 593-2940


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From: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Newsgroups: ba.dance,ba.general
Subject: Nutcracker Info
Summary: Santa Clara Ballet
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:48:25 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: KUFX 94.5 FM Stereo, San Jose, CA 'K-Fox'

Since the subject has been coming up recently, here is information
regarding the Santa Clara Ballet Nutcracker performances:

Where:	Santa Clara Convention Center (Great America Parkway off 101)

When:	December 5 (Sat) 2 PM, 7:30 PM  
	December 6 (Sun) 1 PM, 5 PM 

$$:	$15 and $12.50  ($10.50 on 12/6 - 5 PM Children's Matinee) 

Who:	Features Andre Reyes and Tina Le Blanc, principal dancers from
	the SF Ballet.  Also Nikolai Kabaniaev, a Kirov Ballet soloist.
	There are a number of 'virtual professionals' in the cast who
	help to contribute to a high level of dancing. 

Tickets from BASS or by mail from Santa Clara Ballet Assn., 3086 El
Camino Real, Santa Clara, CA 95051  (add $1 handling fee please).  If
you're near the Mercury-News in North San Jose, you can also get them
from me at the K-Fox 94.5 studios with no handling charge!   
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From: rick@rgb.com (Rick Davis)
Newsgroups: ba.dance
Subject: Re: Which "Nutcracker" to see?
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:54:55 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: RGB Spectrum


Must see the "Revoloutionary Nutcracker Sweetie" put on by
the Wallflower Dance Collective in Oakland.

Rick Davis
rick@rgb.com
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                   R  G  B  Spectrum
              950 Marina Village Parkway  / "You can't fight in here - this
                  Alameda, California     / is the war room! - Dr. Stragelove"
                     rick@rgb.com
From: close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close)
Newsgroups: ba.dance
Subject: Which "Nutcracker" to see?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 17:47:46 GMT
Organization: Self employed, eh.
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: lunch.wpd.sgi.com

I thought I'd finally get out to see the "Nutcracker Suite" as
performed by one of the various ballet companies this year.  To my
surprise I have many, many choices.  Can anyone give me an idea of
which are "must sees" and which are "misses"?  Among the ones I'm
considering are the San Francisco ballet, the San Jose Ballet (San
Jose performances), the San Jose Ballet at their Cupertinto
performances, and the Santa Clara ballet.

-- 
Diane Barlow Close
	close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com 
	I'm at lunch today.  :-)
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: kamooni@pb2esac.uucp (Ken Moonitz)
Subject: Re: paying PacBell by touchtone
Organization: Pacific*Bell ESAC, Oakland, CA.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:58:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.040413.19699@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>In the USMail today, I received the announcement that I can now pay my
>phone bills via touchtone phone. The service is completely free. To set
>it up, all I had to do is send them a blank voided check (I assume so that
>they can notify my bank) and check the YES! box on their literature.
>
>Are we the first in the State? West Coast? Country? to be offered this
>service? Sounds like a great idea...
>
>Any comments? experiences?
>
>
>            -marvin
>
>
>-- 
>Marvin Raab                                  
>marv@netcom.com                              Mountain View, CA 94040
>apple.com!netcom.com!marv                    415-961-6501 (h)

I have it, works great.
			    Ken

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From: kris@frodo.csd.sgi.com (Kris Solem)
Newsgroups: sgi.general,ba.general,ba.market.misc
Subject: FREE cement mix
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:48:26 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Silicon Graphics Computer Systems

I have five 100 lb bags of cement mix that I would like to get rid of.
They are free for the taking... provided you pick them up at my home 
in Redwood City.

--Kris.

--

Kris Solem                                      kris@csd.sgi.com
Silicon Graphics, Inc. -- Technical Education   415-390-2118
2011 North Shoreline Boulevard, MS 12L-170, Mountain View, CA 94039
From: gbarish@oracle.uucp (Gregory James Barish)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: African-American Art Prints
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:34:30 GMT
Reply-To: gbarish@oracle.uucp (Gregory James Barish)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I am interested in getting prints of art done by some African
American artists.  In particular, I am looking for work by
Aaron Douglas and any other notables of the Harlem Renaissance.

Is there any poster shop or museum in the Bay Area where I
could get these?  Thanks.

Again, I am looking for *prints*, the kind that sell between $15 and $40,
unframed.

Thanks,
greg

gbarish@oracle.com

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 Development Services         PHONE............: 415.506.2478 
 Oracle Corporation             
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: saddison@novell.com (Skip Addison)
Subject: Re: Any banks with modem access in the Bay Area?
Organization: Novell, Sunnyvale, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:01:41 GMT

I use Bank of America's Homebanking service.  It's what keeps me banking
there, frankly.  Yes, at $14/mo it's not cheap but I really like being able
to schedule payments in advance, know what's going on with my account,
transfer money between accounts WHEN I'M THINKING OF IT INSTEAD OF FORGETING
ABOUT IT IN THE MORNING, etc.  

Yes, I lose the float on checks, so I pay my mortgage by check rather than 
through Homebanking.  No other payments are big enough that a couple days 
makes a big difference.  In fact, I probably *increase* my average daily
balance rather than decrease it, because I can schedule the payments in 
advance.  Otherwise, with my busy lifestyle I would send out all my
payments once or twice a month.

That's really it.  I can figure out in the evening or weekend when I want
what payments made and the computer will make it happen.  Kind of the 
financial equivalent of a "fire and forget" missile.  If I had to keep
track of when to send which bills to make sure they got there in time, 
transfer money between accounts, etc, -- well, it'd never happen.

I also like being able to check up on the current status of checks,
deposits, etc.  I find that easier to do by modem than with a "customer
service representative."  Yes, the user interface stinks.  But it's not
that hard to get used to and reasonably efficient.  To pay PG&E $100, I
have to type: =PB;2;"PG&E";12/10/92;100.00.  Not up to anybody's 
CHI standards, but not that hard to deal with.

Now if they'd just get rid of the $14/mo charge...

-- Skip
   saddison@novell.com
From: HF.CRS@forsythe.stanford.edu (Craig Snarr)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: mice killers wanted
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:26:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

Hello there

  I have a friend who has gone from the "i have mice, but i don't
want to kill them" so i got a couple of those 'humane' traps, and
she would catch them and take them out to let them go.  Now she has
reached the "I CAN HEAR THEM AT NIGHT! I WANT THEM DEAD AND GONE!"
So here i am hopeing out there in net land there are some
suggestions on a) people who are good mice "killers" b)
posions/traps that would work.  I don't know if it makes a
difference but she lives in a mobile home.  This has been the first
time in 5+ years that she has had the problem, the cat population
seemed to take care of them before.  Emailing me would be best since
i don't always have time to check the bboard everyday, plus the
sooner the better (it's been hard for her to get any sleep!-(
oh, i should mention that i also got a @15$ "sonic thing" that
doesn't seem to work all that well.
thanks in advance!
craig "i said posion at the start" snarr
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: georgew@hspice.portal.com ()
Subject: Fitness Clubs
Organization: Meta-Software Inc., Campbell, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:41:56 GMT

-
     Having tried out the weight room at my new apartment complex, I'm
less than entralled.  Therefore, I'm looking for a fitness club somewhere
here in the South Bay, especially in north San Jose where I live or Campbell
where I work.  The thing I'd like most is weight training facilities, but
lighted tennis and/or raquetball courts would be very nice indeed.  Late
evening hours, at least until 10:00 PM, are a requirement.

     Does anyone have any recommendations?  Any members of the South Bay
Athletic Club on Montague care to share experiences?  What facilities do they
have?  Does the 24-hour Nautilus Club in Campbell have anything more than
Nautilus equipment?  (That's not a requirement, as my last place only had
Nautilus.)

     If demand warrants, I will post a summary of email responses.

							George


-- 
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George J Wu,  georgew@hspice.portal.com or georgew@metasw.com
Meta-Software,  1300 White Oaks Road,  Campbell, CA 95008,  (408) 369-5400
Never be the first to believe.  Never be the last to deceive.  ---  Chess
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Two new FAQ panels (for editing)
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 17:26:33 GMT
Distribution: ca

In article <1992Nov16.170124.12558@netcom.com> jimlynch@netcom.com
(Jim Lynch) writes:
>This is another thing I feel I hafta jump into... these linked FAQs are
>separate messages per question? If they are and they are sent out at some
>interval, I think the number of messages would go up. I would be against this.

The impact is two messages a month.  The linking scheme cut the previous
message count by half previously (12 down to six).  Does linking help?
In some groups it does, in others it doesn't.

>I would be neutral toward some kind of database facility if each element was
>only sent once, however how do you get to the database element reader?

Another set of news.groups is running mail server daemons.  The response is
mixed, the problem is the cost is high.  Anonymous FTP is out because
1) not every site has it, 2) we have security considerations at our site,
3) This places additional burdens of learning on readers less interested
in FTP than in news.

>I would also be somewhat neutral, leaning towards the one-file-has-all the
>FAQs since this is familiar.

We have tested the single FAQ concept and once messages get over 200 lines,
the readership falls off.  This is independent of text style.  The major
problem seems to be the inability of most readers to understand how to
jump around and search for text in news articles.  It makes no sense to
teach people how to search (give a news lesson) with the growing number of
news interfaces, hence the panel suggesting how to find help.  The exception
to that was the cancel panel (moderately successful in collecting diverse
commands and interest by readers on how to take back what they say).

>And of course I'm for anything that ends dumb flame wars (such as a recent one
>that had the content 'lizard breath' and 'nyaa nyaa'), just __please__ don't
>send me all of -say- 75 faqs, one to a message, every 2 weeks.

We can't limit the freedom entailed with speech.  If WE want to limit flame
wars, the first step is to can all the existing arguments.  We would see
they are 90% cyclic and exist on media outside news.  That will get away from
the "breath" etc. arguments. "Can" is used in two senses.
Finding the threshold of acceptability (and I don't mean groups where the FAQ
is posted once a week like comp.graphics where it's one big weekly file)
is part of the purpose of study.  Of course it is all invasive.  It is
something we are willing and able to take flak.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			3 down 1 to go.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Garbled reporting (was Re: patent rights.)
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:39:51 GMT

In article 4549@netcom.com, markm@netcom.com (Mark Mavroudis) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.185145.27954@leland.Stanford.EDU> eap@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Perozziello) writes:
>[more Japan bashing]
>
>>says he's owed 28-dollars for each of the eight-Million fax machines
>                ----------                 ------------- 
>28 times 8,000,000 equals 224,000,000.
>
>>exported from Japan since 1984. That's more than 208-Million dollars.
>                                                  -----------
>Yep, that's right.  224 is more than 208.  

I was reading the "Newsmaker" article in the most recent Computer Currents
which quotes Creative Labs Exec VP Larry Samuels "The percentage of PC's 
using any kind of sound cards is around two percent, or two million of the 
40 million PC's out there in the US."

After extensive research into the theory of mathematics and computation I have
determined that 2% of 40 million is 800,000.  Either reporters cannot multiply
or we have a much clearer understanding of why Samuels' company is not in the
Fortune 500.

Previous article from UPI re-posted by Clarinet had Microsoft selling 2 million
copies of Windows, for a profit of $200 million.  I thought this was marvelous,
since their profit was greater than the sales price.

---
Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141
From: rbrennen@iron.Berkeley.EDU (Reid "Turtle" Alyn Brennen)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Which "Nutcracker" to see?
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:47:45 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: UC BALLROOM DANCERS

In article <1e99b7INNmhn@fido.asd.sgi.com> close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com (Diane Barlow Close) writes:
> I thought I'd finally get out to see the "Nutcracker Suite" as
> performed by one of the various ballet companies this year.  To my
> surprise I have many, many choices.  Can anyone give me an idea of
> which are "must sees" and which are "misses"?  Among the ones I'm
> considering are the San Francisco ballet, the San Jose Ballet (San
> Jose performances), the San Jose Ballet at their Cupertinto
> performances, and the Santa Clara ballet.
>         Diane Barlow Close
>	         close@lunch.wpd.sgi.com 
>	         I'm at lunch today.  :-)

I think it depends on what you want to see.  If you want to
see the best possible dancers and dancing then I suggest
you go to see the San Francisco Ballet Nutcracker on a 
Friday or Saturday night.  Some of the SFB Nutcracker is
very beautiful and some of it sucks.  A lot of the
original Lew Christianson (spelling?) choreography is
quite nice but some of the parts that Helgi Tomasson
changed and some that he left in are pretty boring and/or
bad.  The Russian dance in the second act is great, choreographed
by Anatole Vilzak.  It is the best choreography for that dance
that I have ever seen.  The Waltz of the Flowers is also
my favorite choreography I have seen for that music (again
Christiansen).

I have seen the Oakland Ballet's Nutcracker a few times
and it can be enjoyable.

I have not seen the San Jose (/Cleveland) Ballet or the Santa
Clara Ballet do Nutcracker so I don't know what theirs
are like.

Sum up:  Go see San Francisco's for the second act.

"Disclaimer": I have probably seen San Francisco Ballet's 
Nutcracker 80 to 90 times in the last 12 years (I used
to date one of the dancers) so I am a bit biased positively 
for some parts of the SFB version and very negatively for other
parts.

-Turtle

.______________________________________________________________________.
|Reid (Turtle) Alyn Brennen       |"Her only convert was a black dwarf |
|Berkeley Sensor & Actuator Center| named Chico, who betrayed her faith|
|UC Berkeley                      | in him by roasting her favorite cat|
|rbrennen@iron.berkeley.edu      /  alive over the kitchen fire".      |
|                              / -Edward Rice, Bio of Sir R. Burton    |
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From: dcriswel@oracle.uucp (David Criswell)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: patent rights.
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:48:39 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.


In article <1992Nov16.185145.27954@leland.Stanford.EDU>, eap@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Perozziello) writes:
> (UPI) -- Gaithersburg inventor Peter Tsakanikas says Japan owes
   ^^^
> American inventors millions of dollars in royalties for certain gizmos
> used in facsimile machines. Tsakanikas is planning to show up today at
> the U-S Japan Friendship Celebration at B-W-I Airport Marriott Hotel. He
> says he's owed 28-dollars for each of the eight-Million fax machines
> exported from Japan since 1984. That's more than 208-Million dollars.


Foster City inventor David B. Criswell says Eric Perozziello owes Foster City 
inventors Millions of Dollars in royalties for certain thingamajigs used
while posting worthless japan bashing drivel to the net. Criswell is 
planning to show up today at Stanford University's terminal room. He says
he's owed hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars for each of the 
totally devoid of facts news clippings posted to the net since 1984. That's 
billions of dollars.

Now, the analysis:

1) Gaithersburg inventor Peter T does not claim to have patented the
gizmo, he just claims they stole it. A patent number would do wonders 
for his claim.

2) Foster City inventor Dave C has witnesses to his claims.

3) Peter T is just going to "show up today". No doubt he expects that the
first Japanese person to see him will bound up, shake his hand, apologies 
profusely, and write him a check for 208 million dollars.

Damn polite, those japanese. He didn't have to prove anything in court!

4) Dave C expects much of the same behavior from Eric P.

5) Certified check preferred, with two forms of ID.

Dave "Nobody's volunteered that they've seen Eric P and Robin K in 
the same room" Criswell

My company doesn't flame clueless morons, but I do.
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Newsgroups: ba.general
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