From: lmb@netcom.com (Larry Blair)
Subject: Welcome to ba.jobs.offered and ba.jobs.misc
Organization: Glenwood Consulting, Scotts Valley, CA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:43:17 GMT
Expires: Mon, 2 Nov 1992 01:00:00 GMT

Welcome!  This is the monthly introductory posting for ba.jobs.offered and
ba.jobs.misc. [[Plagiarized from misc.jobs.* monthly posting.]]

Contents:

	What is (and isn't) ba.jobs.offered?
	Why have posting guidelines?
	What are the guidelines?
	What is ba.jobs.misc?


What is ba.jobs.offered?

It is a news group for the posting of job offerings by individuals or
companies with positions in northern California to offer.  Job offers
may be made by any company with a job opening, or by a professional
recruiting company which has been hired to fill the opening.
Professional recruiters, however, should be sensitive to the feelings of
net users and adhere to the guidelines for posting.

What isn't ba.jobs.offered?

It is not a discussion group or a group for posting resumes.  General
discussions concerning jobs should be held in ba.jobs.misc.  Resumes
should be posted in misc.jobs.resumes.  Your cooperation is greatly
appreciated.

Why have posting guidelines?

There are a number of discussions which frequently occur in these groups.
These discussions frequently result in long and unproductive arguments.
These guidelines embody the consensus of opinion as to the proper form
for postings of job offers.

What are the guidelines?

All postings should be for actual positions.

	Any job which is offered or alluded to must actually exist,
	or will soon exist.  Companies are strongly discouraged from
	posting for positions which do not exist.  Resumes may be
	collected from misc.jobs.resumes if a source of resumes is
	desired.

All postings should be for positions in northern California.

	Ba.jobs.offered exists for the convenience of its readers.  They
	reside in the San Francisco bay area and are interested in jobs
	located where they live.  A worldwide newsgroup, misc.jobs.offered, 
	exists for those who are interested in jobs in other localities.

The organization posting should be identified.

	The name of the company making the offer must be present in
	the header of the posting.  Professional recruiters are
	requested to place the word `RECRUITER' on the Keywords:
	line.  In many states, universities are restricted from
	handling commercial traffic.  This will enable universities
	to comply with the law.  This is especially true if there is
	a placement fee required of the person accepting the position.
	Other posters should use the Organization: line to indicate
	the name of the company making the offer.

Crossposting to misc.jobs.offered is permissible.

	It is perfectly OK to crosspost jobs offered to misc.jobs.offered.
	When doing so, remember that some news software will restrict the
	distribution to "ba" if ba.jobs.offered is listed first.  Do not
	crosspost to any group which is not exclusively for job offer
	postings.

Followup-To: is required.

	All postings should contain a "Followup-To: ba.jobs.misc" (or to
	misc.jobs.misc if crossposted to misc.jobs.offered).  This will
	discourage inappropriate replies.

Job offerings should be verifiable.

	The name and phone number or address of the person responsible
	for the position should be given.  Further information should
	be available upon request.  The more information which you
	provide in your posting, the better the response will be.
	You should also consider providing an electronic mail address
	and allowing resumes to be sent via electronic mail.

Location of the position should be provided.

	The location or locations of the job should clearly be stated
	in either the header or near the top of the article. 

What is ba.jobs.misc?

This group exists for job related discussion.  Most topics relevant
to seeking employment, seeking workers, or the workplace are appropriate
here.  For example: which items should/shouldn't be included on a resume,
appropriate dress for an interview, salaries, references, degree vs.
experience, working from home, corporate culture, cubicles vs. offices,
dating coworkers, layoffs, giving notice, and so on.  Also, followup
articles from the .offered groups go here.

Some topics can easily turn into flamefests, for example drug testing
and affirmative action policies.  Please note that other people have
had different experiences than you, and that there is more than one
valid opinion on many of these topics.  Sometimes you may need to
agree to disagree.  Also consider that potential employers and employees
may be reading your article.  Do they see a reasonable person?  Or do
they see someone they would never consider hiring or working for?


Thank-you for your time and adherence to these guidelines.  If a poster
should fail to comply, readers are encouraged to reply first by mail or
post a follow up to ba.jobs.misc.

If you have questions regarding this posting or suggestions concerning ways
in which it may be improved, please send mail to me directly.
-- 
Larry Blair   lmb@netcom.com       Glenwood Consulting 408-438-6386