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From: jwindley%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley)
Subject: Re: Conference Room
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:08:40 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

Brian_Whittaker@3mail.3com.com writes:
>
> 2 Quick Questions.

I know these have already been answered, but here goes.

>1. On the Enterprize-D Exactly what Deck/Section is the Conference room?  

Deck 1, section 18.  The door on the starboard lower level of the
bridge leads to a ramp which skirts the starboard perimeter of the
bridge and opens to the rear of the conference room.  The bridge and
conference room are both listed as being on deck 1 in the Technical
Manual, but obviously the bridge sits a bit higher.

>2. Is there a Tech Manual for the Ent.-D?

The publisher is Pocket Books.



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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain)
Subject: Re: TNG figures
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:15:21 GMT

In article <92327.030634SMB147@psuvm.psu.edu> <SMB147@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Does anyone know if the Troia Action figure is real?  Has anyone seen it?
>R I K


Due out in Dec., so I heard.

Glenn.........

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University of Texas at San Antonio
College of Business Student Microcomputer Lab
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: ryan@sdf.lonestar.org (Ryan Means)
Subject: Next Generation Inaugural Cards Needed ]
Organization: sdf full-shell Public Access Unix - Dallas, TX - 214/436-3281
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:14:59 GMT

    I was wondering if anyone could sell me the Next Gen. Inaugural Cards
#'s 058, 060, 028, 027, 014, and 015. If so please contact me. Thank you in
advance.
 
-- 
Ryan Means
ryan@sdf.lonestar.org
From: wcsbeau@alfred.carleton.ca (OPIRG)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Fistful of Datas (no real spoilers)
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:10:29 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <1992Nov12.083936.2667@leland.Stanford.EDU> firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) writes:
>Well, I just saw it, and as predicted, it was perhaps not the best episode of
>the season.  While watching, I just kept thinking "Spectre of the Gun" --
>but, I can't help but feel the whole episode was justified by that final
>shot of the Enterprise .... anyone agree?

ABSOLUTELY!  That shot was quite spectacular.  I saw it, and I thought
to myself "they must have had a lot of FX budget left over"...

The rest of the episode wasn't that bad either.  Like most of the rest
of the season (so far), it was, though not fantastic, fairly good, and
had some funny bits in it.  This season has generally been much more
consistent than previous ones (if you ask me, anyway).

Christopher Allen
(wcsbeau@alfred.carleton.ca)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: xxbsamek@utagraph.uta.edu (Mr. Brad Samek)
Subject: Re: What Would be the ULTIMATE cross-over? A Top 10 List
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:30:56 GMT

tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
: vincent@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong) writes:
: 
: >Possible crossovers between ST-TNG and other series:
: > 3.  On a backwards planet, an away team led by Deanna Troi is taken
: >     prisoner by relgious fanatics who believe Troi is a servant of
: >     the devil.  They put her on trial and accuse her of being "Deryni"
: >     ...
: Second hard one. Still have no idea.

      The Camber series by Katherine Kurtz.  Deryni are basically
      psionic humans.

                                               

                                              Brad Samek



     In an infinite universe, all things are not only possible but, no 
     matter how improbable, certain to exist somewhere at sometime.
                                                -Feist 
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Situation with r.a.s.i. - Jim Griffith?
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:37:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: vidiot.4445
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Nov16.050652.12788@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark A. Holtz) writes:
<Is it my imagination, or has rec.arts.startrek.info turned into a
<great vacuum instead of a great source of up-to-date news?
<
<Does this mean that we have to replace the moderator of r.a.s.i.?
<If so, I am not qualified...I barely keep up with netnews and the
<list of lists myself. Mike Brown is certainly qualified, but does
<he have the time? Tim Lynch is definately OUT, he has no time. I
<know, lets have Dean Adams become the moderator! ;)

Jim seems to be putting out what is sent him.  I recently sent a press release
and it was posted in the latest batch.  I don't know what netters have been
sending Jim, so we don't know what is, or isn't, being posted.

I suggest that we let Jim explain what is going on.  There may be reasons
beyond his control, which may be corrected in the future.  I say give Jim the
benefit of doubt (did that come out right :-).
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From: bates@spica.ucsb.edu (Andrew M. Bates)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Patrick Stewart!!!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:20:35 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara


    Just thought you'd all like to know, I'm about to get Patrick Stewart's
autograph!  Later....

        Andy Bates.

P.S.  His license plate number is 2YGP807.


Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke)
Subject: Good Spock mind-meld scenes
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:53:23 GMT

	I just saw the episode "The Changeling" today (the one with the
"Nomad" probe that the 1st Motion Picture reminds everyone of), and I
must say the scene where Spock mind-melds with the probe was quite well
done and quite effective.  Then I started to think of other Spock
mind-meld scenes that were really good (I couldn't think of any bad ones
-- most were at least `good').  Some that came to mind: 

	1. The meld with V'ger in TMP (sort of like the "Changeling"
one, but with a budget);
	2. With the Horta in "Devil in the Dark" ("THE PAAAIN!!"); 
	3. In the DC comic, where the just-resurrected Spock, recovering
on Vulcan (between ST III and IV) becomes the object of a meld initiated
by the "Mirror, Mirror"-universe Spock.  This meld-with-himself explains
how he found the internal order necessary for recovery.  (Not canon, and
refuted by ST IV, but a decent read).

	I thought of several more, mostly from the series, but can't
recall them now, and besides I've got studying to do!  Can anyone else
out there come up with their faves?  (Or are you all to busy taping Next
[De-]generation? =^)  
-- 
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glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca | Internet address ... | I get dizzy when I think
  Newfoundland, Canada   |   I'm a free man!"   |  about it" -Sugarcubes 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: rkolker@nuchat.sccsi.com (Rich Kolker)
Subject: Re: Thanks for the flameries...
Organization: South Coast Computing Services, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 00:18:35 GMT

Well, it's good to see that nothing has changed in rec.arts.startrek in
the five years or so I've been offline...

Look, what's "official" Star Trek really isn't that important, unless you're
doing something that Paramount's interested in getting a piece of,
or have nothing better to do.

During the interregnum (the time between STTOS and STTMP), there were lots
of pieces of info that were considered "official" within fandom, and
have since been changed.  Nobody called anyone any names over it.

There have always been discontinuities between FASA, Paramount, GR and fandom.

So what?  If you want to have some fun by trying to explain away the
inconsistancies, that's a good gedanken experiment.  But it's not worth
flaming over, IMHO.
.
++rich


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From: eggertc@ucs.orst.edu (Christopher Eggert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: HELP!!! Need Klingon species information!!!
Date: 21 Nov 92 00:32:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1ek03kINN36c
Distribution: usa
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu

I'm just finishing up writing a novel for the original show, and I discovered
that I need to straighten up one key point.......

Does anyone but me remember reading (seeing?  hearing?) anything anywhere
about there being two different species under the same name of "Klingon"?  I
seem to remember that there are...an Imperial and a Warrior race...one looks
very human (like the spy in "The Trouble With Tribbles" that was found only by
McCoy's tricorder reading) and one race that looks like the "modern" Kligons
(the ones with the beards in ST:TOS, and head ridges in ST:TNG).

Did I just dream this up, or does anyone else remember this?

Please reply ASAP, I need to know pronto.  Feel free to e-mail a response to
me direct, or I will watch this newsgroup for a while.

C. Eggert
Oregon State University
(eggertc@ucs.orst.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: keyes@stsci.edu (Charles D. Keyes,,4975,ADD.01-20-92)
Subject: Re: Administrivia
Reply-To: keyes@stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:51:46 GMT

Sir:
	Your management of this group, which must be a trying as well as
time-consuming task, has been impeccable!  As an interested, but not
fanatic observer, I have found the information in this group quite 
interesting and informative.  The frequency of posting has never been a
concern of mine.  Please keep up the good work.

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.sf.marketplace,misc.forsale
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Star Trek (TOS) on Beta, uncut (trade/sell; updated 11/18)
Followup-To: poster
Summary: trade 4 other Beta, CD, NES games, IWII sheet feeder, Sony V6/V7
Keywords: Items
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Distribution: na,jp
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:56:16 GMT

Just got through taking inventory, and I've got a total of 7 episodes
available on *Beta* for Sale at $10 each (take 'em all for only $60!)
or Trade (1-for-1 swap for movie on Beta or used CD; or, a package
deal for used Nintendo NES games; or, all for a set of good stereo
headphones (e.g. Sony V6 or V7) or an Apple IWII sheet feeder) as
follows:

	 8 - Charlie X
	11 - Dagger of the Mind
	12 - Miri
	17 - Shore Leave
	20 - The Alternative Factor
	29 - Operation-Annihilate!
	33 - Who Mourns for Adonais?

Numbers indicate episode numbering on the tape boxes, for those who
are keeping track of what episodes they're missing in that manner.

RSVP for summaries, if necessary.

The tapes are all in excellent condition in the original packaging.
All have been played at least once, but most have been played ONLY
once, and NONE have been played more than twice. Running time: ~50
min. ea.  (Unedited, uncut store-bought originals unlike those in
syndication; all have *incredible* Beta HiFi sound!)

gld

PS: For those of you who may wonder, Beta is alive as a pro/hobbyist
format ... there's life beyond the corner video store! (-;
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: TOS & TNG/Movie Klingons
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 02:15:34 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon

In article <1992Nov23.165827.20330@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <-4pq78j@lynx.unm.edu> quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk) writes:
>>Just some food for thought, but if, as many claim, the TOS Klingons
>>always looked like TNG klingons, but the makeup wasn't up to snuff,
>>could somebody please explain how Arne Darvin (the Klingon spy in "The
>>Trouble With Tribbles") was able to so successfully infiltrate Mr.
>>Baris's staff?  Extensive cosmetic surgery?  (Gotta take out them ridges
>>and put in some hair.)
>
>No problem....  The original species he was masquerading as would have
>been easy for a Klingon with minor surgery, but the makeup was even
>more exotic and expensive.  So G.R. proclaimed "well, since our Klingons
>don't look like Klingons, lets just make the Zrakmid look Terran, and
>nobody will ever notice...."

I *like* this one!! ;-)

>That's my conspiracy theory, anyhow.

You and who else's? ;-)

>Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
>jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL

-- 
Capt. Gym Z. Quirk  (Known to some as Taki Kogoma)  quirk@pioneer.unm.edu
 I'll get a life when someone demonstrates that it would be superior to
                          what I have now...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: benjie@quack.sac.ca.us (Android)
Subject: Star Fleet Logo Wanted
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 22 Nov 1992 06:11:57 UTC

Does anyone has a GIF or BMP or JPG or any other kind of picture of
StarFleet logo?  If so, I am interested in getting a copy.  Please email
me.

Thanks
Benjie

-- 
     BBB		Benjie Chen
    BCCCB 		benjie@quack.sac.ca.us
    BCCCB		No Axiomatic System Could Produce All Number-
     BBB		Theoretical Truths, Unless It Is Inconsistent.
From: adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (andrew farmer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Rivers...?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 14:10:45 -0500
Reply-To: adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (andrew farmer)
Distribution: world
Organization: AFI Communications - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:

| Well, it looks like they have bumped the TNG "Joan Rivers" episode,
| probably to some time later in the week (or at least tomorrow).

Nope.  I watched it this morning at 11:00 EST on WGN.

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From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Help us save TNG.
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:03:32 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland


     
        Hello everyone!
     
        The Finnish channel 3 that has aired Star Trek: The Next Generation,
        has decided to cancel the show after the currently running 3rd season
        reaches its end here.  This will happen sometime in December.
     
        The fans of Star Trek have organized an extensive letter-writing
        campaign in order to keep TNG going.  Many universities and schools, 
	local SF-clubs and private persons collect names and write letters to
        the person directly responsible for the decision to cancel TNG.
        Certain shops (bookstores, comic-shops, etc) collect names to lists
        in order to help save TNG.
       
        An article will be published in the Finnish "Pelit"-magazine, a
        games magazine, asking people to call, write or fax Mr. Arto
        Kivinen of channel 3 (the man responsible).
     
        If you'd like to help us, drop a postcard or write to Mr. Arto Kivinen
        and request that TNG must allowed to continue until its proper end
        (8th season? who knows).  I'm sure every Finnish fan of Star Trek
        would greatly appreciate your participation in this campaign!
	     
        The address where to send postcards or letters is:
     
     	MTV Oy
     	Mainos Group
     	Arto Kivinen
     	Ilmalantori 2
     	00240 Helsinki
     	FINLAND
     
        Even easier:  fax him!  The Telefax-number is show below:
     
     	Fax:	+358 0 1500 572
     
         Many thanks for your help!  We hope to keep the only SF-series
         currently running in Finland going. 

-- 
[  Mika O. Latokartano	  |    "They say the sea is cold, but the sea  ]
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[  mol@vipunen.hut.fi     |     Whales Weep Not!  -D.H.  Lawrence      ]
From: Brian_Whittaker@3mail.3com.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Conference rooms on the Ent.-D
Date: 20 Nov 1992 12:15:34 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu




Where is the conference room is on  Enterprise-D. And is there a 
tech manual out on the ships layout?


                                                             BW.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard)
Subject: Re: Model Starfleet Congress(remember this?)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:18:14 GMT

dshaffer@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donald A Shaffer) writes:


>  Anyone remember this?  I remember it bout a month ago then everything sort of
>fizzled.  Anyone have anything on this.
>(MAtt, you out there?  I lost your address fellow starfeet person)

>Don Shaffer
>dshaffer@andromeda.rutgers.edu 3000

Yes, and I was told to wait...  ZZZzzzzz.....

Okay, if it goes on after all, great, but I am one irritated ambassador/
consul/minister plenipotentiary/diplomat/envoy.

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: eggertc@ucs.orst.edu (Christopher Eggert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: TOS & TNG/Movie Klingons
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:10:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1erhbnINNbbi
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu

>In article <1eouvuINNqpq@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> eggertc@ucs.orst.edu (Christopher Eggert) writes:
>>Just a point I'd like to make....If any more than ONE person had bothered to
>>read/reply to a message I posted here a few days ago, you would have seen a
>>potential explanation for this.
>
>Uh, give it a few days to propogate to the net.  Maybe we should use
>netnews as a model for long-distance (parsecs, not area codes) communications.

Good point.  Must be a perpetual ion storm out there somewhere disrupting
speedy communications.  Apologies if I have offended.


C.Eggert
Oregon State University
(eggertc@ucs.orst.edu)
:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) <------ Smileys all the way.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Is there a problem here. . .?
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 00:10:20 EST

 
>
>In article <1992Nov14.133157.106@cuphub.cup.edu> ire9934@cuphub.cup.edu writes:
>
>>Sorry if I seem judgmental or rude, but its just something that needs to be
>>said.  If you decide to complain, it's your right, but do us commoners a favor
>>and bitch among yourselves.
>>
 
    I thought that 's what we were doing.  That's why this is a ST net, and
we don't take over the whole airwave/bandwidth/whatever of Usenet.
 
    I'll be the first to admit that, being a grad student, I don't have much of
a life, but if all one does is look in some strange net, and bitch about
what other people are doing by themselves... Hey, that guy (or gal) has
serious problems.
 
 
 
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   "INSANITY IS A VIRTUALLY IMPREGNABLE GAMBIT...
BUT YOU HAVE TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK EARLY IN THE GAME..."
 
    JUNSOK YANG (YANJUNA@YALEVM.YCC.EDU)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:06:34 EST
From: <SMB147@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: TNG figures

Does anyone know if the Troia Action figure is real?  Has anyone seen it?
R I K
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:57:58 -0500 
From: Kenneth Blake Nerhood <kn0j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Where are the Sounds???

Where are the STTNG sounds?
   There used to a site where there was a large collection of STTNG sounds
files in au format.  Does that site still exist and where is it???

Thanks in advance
Ken Nerhood
kn0j@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: omega@triton.unm.edu (     )
Subject: TNG: Temporal Causality Loop Info Wanted
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 02:51:23 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


I caught an episode about five minutes into it.
It was about a Temporal Causality Loop.

Does anyone know the episodes name?
Does anyone have any comments about the concept of a TCL?

I'm not a follower of this group and wonder if this is the
appropriate group for this discussion.  Someone be so kind
as to direct me elsewhere if I'm in the wrong place.

Thanks.

Charlie.       ( omega@triton.unm.edu )  





Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Robin Curtis' fall to Braun hand mixers
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:20:46 GMT

I recently saw an ad featuring Robin Curtis showing off the Braun hand mixer.   
How sad to see people doing these ads when they receive so little for it.

Well, I suppose this is something that can be added to the list for appearances  
by Star Trek actors in other things.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail welcome
From: zebee@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Christmas Carol tape
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:27:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Adelaide
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au

I understand that there is a commercial tape of Patrick Stewart reading
Dickens's A Christmas Carol.
  
IF anyone sees this tape, could they please email me the publication 
information?  I haven't been able to track it down here in Australia.
  
If you are going to see him do his one-man show, it may be on sale there.

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