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From: kwinkler@pbs.org (The Axe Man)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Performers who can't hear
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:21:52 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <92102.005632BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu>, BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> In article <1992Apr11.001720.15465@news.larc.nasa.gov>,
> bandwen@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (bando) says:
> 
>>Is it true that Alex Van Halen is 90% deaf in one ear or something like
>>that?  I know Pete Toownshend has lost a significant amount of hearing
>>also.  How do these performers keep their "musical ear" when they've
>>played live for so long and at such a high decible level without any
>>protection?--Just curious

Answer:  they don't.  That is if recent Pete Townshend performances 
are any indication.  They just try their best.  But Pete sang horribly
off-key in the Who reunion tour.

						----Ken Winkler
						    (kwinkler@pbs.org)

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From: swann@acsu.buffalo.edu (Stephen Swann)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Styx album *Man of Miracles*
Keywords: Styx,Unfinished Song,Lies,James Young
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:34:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr14.160750.4183@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> sl291006@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Phaedrus 'n Co.) writes:
>Considering that it wouldn't have benifitted them to change the order..
>they probably renamed "Unfinished Song" lies.

Nope.  "Lies" is a cover of a tune by The Knickerbockers.  "Unfinished
Song" is a Styx tune.  God knows why they replaced it on the CD version.

>Also If anyone knows where I can get a copy of James Youngs Solo albmus, 
>or the album Styx I I would aprreciate it. respond either through email 
>or posts...

Well, since you're the second person now to ask, I guess I'll post it:

		Absolute Records
		P.O. Box 388689
		Chicago, IL  60638

Absolute Records is basically JY's own independant record label.  You
have to order his last 2 albums directly from him...

-- 
Steve Swann                 |    Speak to me in many voices; make
swann@acsu.buffalo.edu      |      them all sound like one...  -BOC
From: fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Lott)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: CD packaging
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:15:28 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <12374@tamsun.tamu.edu>, rlopez@loanstar.tamu.edu (Robert Lopez) writes:
> In article <1992Apr13.153321.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Lott) writes:
> 
> |> 2) The paper materials are only half the question, there is also the question
> |> about what to do about the jewel-box... everyone wants to save the landfills
> |> from the plastic, but a lot of people protestr paying for cd's and getting a
> |> flimsy paper or cardboard container. 
> |> 
> 
> This is not a dig on Chris at all, because I keep hearing this argument...
> but, this line of thinking is SILLY!!!
> 

Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!   :)

> Given that CDs last either 10 years or forever (depending on who you ask),
> how often are you people throwing away your jewel boxes??  I mean, sure, every
> now and then I step on one or drop it and break it, but this doesn't seem
> like it should be a big problem to the world of recycling.
> 
> Hell, get rid of shrink wrap first.
> 
> Those stupid digipak things (that's those cardboard funky packages we've all been
> seeing on some of the newer releases) can't possibly be durable.
> 
> The introduction of the digipak was purely a monetary decision with an
> environmental smokescreen...

Just for the record, I was letting people know what was going on, not stating
my opinion... so here it is (for those that care)

I don't want to see the jewel-box go either, I like somethign sturdy to keep
my cd's in. If there were anythinbg biodegradable that compared I would love
to keep any plastic out of the grounmd, but since there isn't--

BUT you are wrong about the decision for the enviro-pack being monetary... it
actually would cost MORE (5 cents per cd average) to package in cardboard...
believe it! That is the main reason the CD industry DOESN'T want the enviro
pack! People bitch enough about cd prices as it is (with cause I think)... 

> 
> -- 
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: buchekcm@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Subject: Re: Use of term "progressive rock"
Reply-To: buchekcm@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:44:17 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.042252.8160@sobeco.com>, jlarouch@sobeco.com (Jacques Larouche) writes:
>In <92098.193128IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (the DM) writes:
>>not qualify..........  But then do Invisible touch, or 90125 fall into this
>>line too???????  Too many questions.........

    I'd say that yes, these 2 albums do fit the "progressive" definition, but
not nearly to the degree of earlier work by the groups.  The music is still
of the same general style; there just isn't as much work in making the music
stand out and make as bold a musical statement.

>Genesis is no longer in the *progressive* type since a long time (from
>when Hackett left the band - in '78).

    Genesis is  still *somewhat* "progressive".  However, they have moved away
from their classical and religious influences of the Gabriel era.  Their more
recent albums show more influence from pop (despite their claim "We Can't
Dance" -- take a listen to the "Sex mix" of "ICD") and various other types of
music, though not to as great a degree as previously.
    Hackett was IMHO the best musician in Genesis, and his guitar playing was
nearly classical guitar.  (I've been listening to his "Bay of Kings" recently.)
But most of the middle-era "progressive" music was written by Tony Banks, so
it would be possible to go back to a more progressive style, although it would
be a bit contrived.  I do think that Tony should write more of the music,
though.

>Yes got more into 'commercial-rock' (still well done) with 90125 and Big
>generator but are back to their roots with their last effort - Union.
>
>Long live to Yes
>
>Jacques

Craig M. Buchek
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From: jlwoodal@garcia.warfield.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Let's get rocked
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:39:32 GMT
Organization: Solar Federation

>>wouldn't have come out with a new album so soon after Hysteria.
>>
>>I'd have rewritten more of the lyrics but I'm trying to forget
>>the entire song...
>>
>>--the mocking religion of hatred that burns in the night
>>Suaron
>
>	If your such a musical virtuoso, why don't you get a record contarct,
>and start making you own
"I-love-Hitler-kill-the-babies-rape-the-women"records.
>You could smash a guitar on stage(It would probably sound better than
your
>playing) and Maple can come out and give you a blow-job right on stage
to 
>totaly disgust us all.

When did he say that part about Hitler?  So because this guy hate
Def Lep, he is also into killing babies, loving Hitler,
and raping women?   Also, I would just like to go on record by saying
that I have NEVER met a true musician that like Def Leppard.  Well,
I'm sorry.  Savage IS admired for his hair.  Def Leppard is shit.  If
you want to like them, go ahead, but DO NOT talk to me about musical
talent, OK?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: benham@anion.serum.kodak.com (Todd Benham (x37354))
Subject: Re: BEST LIVE ALBUMS
Keywords: NEIL YOUNG
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:35:03 GMT

In article <pdlemass.703416011@unix2.tcd.ie> pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie (Something original) writes:
>my favourite live album is "Weld" by Neil Young and Crazy Horse .
>Any opinions?
>Peter

I believe you, it probably IS your favourite live album, but that's only
my opinion. :)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 20:56:23 CDT
From: PAUL LEDDY <U30480@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Three Greatest Consecutive Albums

I'd also have to say that U2 released three good consecutive albums:

1)  Unforgettable Fire
2)  The Joshua Tree
3)  Achtung Baby.

Of course this is MHO, no flames please.  I agree that there a lot of groups
out there that can fit this category.

Paul

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: kchalas@helpdesk.eng.clemson.edu (Kumar Chalasani)
Subject: Pink Floyd - Interview
Originator: kchalas@helpdesk.eng.clemson.edu
Reply-To: kchalas@helpdesk.eng.clemson.edu (Kumar Chalasani)
Organization: Clemson University Engineering Department
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 20:34:42 GMT


hello, world!

 i have in my possession a report/interview/paper on the floyd, and
it s called

 'The EFFECT OF DRUGS AND INSANITY ON PINK FLOYD'. 

the original (net?) author was Perry Friedman...

have you all read it ?(it is from the net)

if not, and if there is enough interest (the article is long as hell) ill type is again,
and post it. anybody with any interest, letme know, by all (and any) means.

-k, who thought it might be nice to return something to the netgroup that gave him so much...,
and who is depressed at havin to lose this access after 45 more days.


-k

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Kumar Chalasani		           we'll stick our heads into the sand
The Hairy Fraud                    and just pretend that all is planned
On The Doorstep of Fame, Forever   and hope that everything turns out ok-SWolf
From: jlwoodal@warfield.garcia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Def Leppard..something missing?
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:47:00 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

Is everyone forgetting a pretty important fact here?
Hysteria SUCKED!!!
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From: coven@hale.cts.com (Coven)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: The Ten Most Overrated Rock Bands
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:57:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: hale.1L71iB4w165w
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

> How can anyone group Kip Wimper and the classic speed metal band
> Megadeth in the same category.  Megadeth is art, Wimper is poser.
 
Actually, while I agree that Winger is a poser,  dont't have any respect 
at all for Megadeth's music. The only song by them that I've heard that I 
liked was 'Go To Hell'... I even bought Rust In Peace once upon a time 
and played it and it SUCKED HARD.... I'd seen people say that Metallica, 
Anthrax, Megadeth, and Slayer were pretty much the trendsetters and since 
I liked old Metallica and REALLY liked -=>old<=- Slayer <Reign In Blood 
especially>, and I thought Anthrax was...well....ok.... Then I should 
like Megadeth. But RIP was terrible. The songs didn't have any energy at 
all in them and it was all mediocre guitar playing and Mustaine sounds 
like he's constipated. I think I liked Dawn Patrol though. Anyways, I 
pulled some of the tape out and rumpled it and cut it and took it back 
and exchanged it for Morbid Visions and Bestial Devastation by Sepultura 
and was happier....
 
 
> I could never stand those people who think that the only good music
> that ever was and ever will be was from the 60s and 70s.  True,
> there is a lot of trash these days, just take a look at Top 40.
> But there is always heavy metal!  Many people confuse heavy
> metal with poser music.  I go, "so do you like any metal?"  And
> they're like, "yeah I like Motley Crue and Guns N Roses!!"  These
> people think that if a band has long hair and play guitars they
> are heavy metal.
> 
> That is why I am on the Poserkiller mission.  I do not want to
> see heavy metal disintegrate into poser music.
 
Wow....you expect us all to respond talking about what a cool and real 
metalhead you are? Also if metal disentigrated to "poser music" then, 
since the word poser came from bands posing as "actual" metal groups, 
there would be no "real" metal bands to pose as would there? So "posers" 
wouldn't exist anymore...
AND...when someone say a "poser" band, I think of groups like Winger, 
Poison, Kiss, Bon Jovi, Motley Crue, and NEWER Queensryche... But I 
honestly don't think GnR is <I hate this word> "poser"... Yeah they 
aren't quite metal, but they aren't <ahem> "posers"...
I see people like you all over the boards... Always bashing people who 
like a different type of music thinking that you're all just big 
metalhead studs and everyone will like you... Get a life.

HALE TELECOMMUNICATIONS - Public Access Node, San Diego CA 619/660-6734 HST
coven@hale.cts.com (Coven)   10-Apr-92 at 1:09p
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From: warrior@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Gary Carter Inc.)
Subject: The BLACK CROWES are back!!!!!
Reply-To: warrior@wam.umd.edu
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:22:54 GMT

Did you hear "Remedy"?  What did you think?  I think it is a great song.   
A bit more relaxed then "Shake Your Money Maker".  Let's see if the whole  
album is like that.  Any one have promo's of this song?  Later...

CROWEMAFIA! It's a family thing.
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Three Greatest Consecutive Albums
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:51:25 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Apr15.161101.14462@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> sbohman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven A Bohman) writes:
>I have to due this just to start the expected riot.
>
>Appetite For Destruction
>Use Your Illusion I
>Use Your Illusion II

  Well, I guess you didn't hear about the "Lies" release :-)

  Doug
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From: bd427@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David J. Babinsky)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Review of def lepp's 'adreanlize' cd
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:13:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr6.181327.2078
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


The album is truly superb as you stated.  It grows on you and 
you need to listen to it more than once or twice to get the full
affect of its genious.  It may not be as good as Hysteria, but 
just compare it to other albums and songs on the charts.  It is 
truly a new step in the right direction of rock and roll and 
away from that dance beat shit that has crept its way onto the 
charts.  This album is no bubble gum and the songs will be 
played 5 years from now as classics.  I guarantee it.
-- 
|I am the Bibman| "Together we stand, divided we fall"--Pink
|    bd427      |                                           Floyd
			GO CAVS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: martin@specialix.co.uk (Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Backward part of PF (was Re: Help with ELO song)
Date: 16 Apr 92 08:47:18 GMT
Organization: Specialix International, London

machin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Machin) writes:

>The message says:

>"Congratulations, you have just discovered the secret message.  Please send
>your answer to Old Pink, care of the funny farm [Chelsea]"

actually it's Chalfont, not Chelsea.
well that's what I heard, anyway


Martin

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From: forbesc@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Colin Forbes)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Rush Question
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:13:54 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

dana@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Arturo A. Gigante) writes:

>Does anyone know what the albums RTB and PW mean when they are dedicated  
>to  a letter in the credits?  In the inside jacket or CD Book or whatever  
>you call that thing, RTB says brought to you by the letter B, and PW is  
>brought to you by the letter M.

>I'm not sure if these are the exact letters but does anyone know what they  
>are there for? 

Obviously the band are big Sesame street fans and thought it would be kind of 
fun to do the same sort of credits that they do. (This program has been brought
to you by the letters "G" and "L" and by the number 12.) I wouldn't try reading
too much into the actual letters used, although there was probably some reason
for the choice known only to Rush.

Incidentaly, the Roll the Bones tour hits Glasgow tonight. I've got my ticket
and I can't wait - this is the first time I've seen them live.

	Colin.


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From: jlwoodal@garcia.warfield.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Suggest Metallica for a novice
Keywords: Metallica
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:26:31 GMT
Organization: Solar Federation

I turned my Girlfriend on to Metallica not with any album, but with
B-sides.  I made a tape with "Killing Time", "Stone Cold Crazy",
"Breadfan", and "The Prince" on it and it left her screaming for
more.  She never liked Master of Puppets until she got into the covers.
From: 00cewilkison@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Def Leppard..something missing?
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:17:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: bsu-ucs.1992Apr7.151719.5759

In article <1992Apr1.190659.23593@wam.umd.edu>, giant@next13epsl.wam.umd.edu (ShadowKing) writes:
> I bought the Adrenalize CD on Monday night (actually Tuesday
> morning), and have listened to it three times.  Granted,
> that is probably not enough time to make a real judgement
> on it, but here is a teeny-weeny one...
> 
> First of all, I think the CD is excellent.  However, aside
> from Steve Clark, something seems missing.  I have no idea
> what it is, but the over-all feeling I get from listening
> to it is that something is lacking.  Maybe I was hoping
> for some songs along the lines of 'Rocket' or 'God of War',
> I don't know.  Does anyone else feel the same way?  Is it
> possible that the loss of Steve Clark means more than anyone
> can realize (I don't think so).  I like 'White Lightning',
> 'Personal Property', and 'Stand Up...' but something
> seems missing....
 I know what you mean. There's no songs like "Women", or"GOW". They
just have this huge sound the new one don't.> 
> 
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From: dana@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Arturo A. Gigante)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: rush trivia tidbits
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:23:51 GMT
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <901430w.702858490@aucs> 901430w@aucs.acadiau.ca (Kevin Wayte)  
writes:
> Do not doubt it was Geddy!  It is most likely possible.
> I'd be interested in seeing who does it live in concert.
> Anyone know?  Or do they use a sample?

In the concert they had a recording doing it.   They also had one for Time  
Stand Still when the girl from Til Tuesday sings the high notes in the  
chorus.  

Carl Erickson
dana@wam.umd.edu
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From: prabal@pons.cis.ohio-state.edu (Prabal Acharyya)
Subject: Re: Best live albums (was Re: Monsters of Rock 1992)
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:31:52 GMT

In article <35023@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU> cthulhu@shark.cis.ufl.edu (Mark Kupper) writes:
>
>  Here are my top 5 live albums:
>
>	Little Feat - Waiting for Columbus (also Hoy Hoy has some good stuff)
>	Deep Purple - Made in Japan
>	Judas Priest - Unleashed in the East
>	Ozzy Osbourne/Randy Rhoades - Tribute
>	Slayer - Decade of Aggression
>
>

Here are mine:

	Eric Clapton: Just One Night (in Japan)
	Derek and the Dominos: Live in ??  (double CD)
	Sting: Bring on the Night
	Deep Purple:  Made in Japan
	Santana:  Lotus  (also recorded in Japan??)
	Dire Straits:  Alchemy

I don't understand why everybody play so much better in Japan :-)

prabal.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: The Ten Most Overrated Rock Bands
From: kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:08:39 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Apr9.121354.25638@dg-rtp.dg.com>, cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
> In article <1992Apr6.211017.3591@iscsvax.uni.edu>, lindaman4833@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> |> 8) Cher and other actresses/actors/models turned singers---These are some of
> |> the most annoying people on the face of the earth, especially Cher.  
> 
> But you've got it backwards.  Cher is not an actress-turned-singer, she's a
> singer-turned-actress (-turned-singer).  I must admit that I don't
> particularly care for her music myself, but I could sit and watch the
> "tattooed butt" that you mentioned for hours.  I think she's pretty hot.

   Personally I've always thought she's pretty damned ugly myself, not to
mention a bad singer and a bad actress.

Karl Magnacca

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