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From: andrews@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andrew Shires)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: the Breeders
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:42:27 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex, England

In article <1992Jul21.072654.4758@cs.uri.edu> reynhout@cs.uri.edu (Andrew Reynhout) writes:
>In article <1992Jul15.230614.15281@nic.umass.edu> S2762132@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (s2762132) writes:
>>Hey...
>>With the re-release of Pod, I was just wondering....
>
>>2)Will the new ones have additional tracks not on mine?
>
>  Hope not.  :-)  There is one outstanding (as in "missing") Breeders track
>of which I am aware.  I'm told it's also outstanding (as in "excellent",)
>but I haven't heard it myself...nor do I remember the name of it. 

There's a track called `I Just Want To Get Along', and yes, it _is_ excellent
-- possibly better than anything on `Pod' IMO.  It was on a compilation from 
Melody Maker, `Gigantic 2' -- my friend has a copy.

>   There's a tough one.  Breeders were never supposed to be a touring band,
>and I'm only aware of one performance that they ever gave.  

They played London last month too . . .

>   Another thing to consider, though, is that Tanya Donelly is working in
>her new band, Belly.  Their EP is out, and I'm *quite sure* that this will
>be a touring project.  This might create difficulties for touring...does
>anyone know when Pixies are due for a new album?  Belly's should be out in
>a couple of months -- it doesn't look like their schedules are synced very
>well.  :-(

Tanya Donelly apparently did not appear with The Breeders at the recent London
gig (anyone there verify this?) as she had committments to Belly.  In fact,
I think I read a report recently saying she had `left' The Breeders because of
Belly, but that was unconfirmed.

Andrew
-- 
Andrew Shires, COGS, University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton, ENGLAND
email: andrews@uk.ac.sussex.cogs    and    andrews@uk.ac.sussex.syma
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From: richard@wpi.WPI.EDU (RICH)
Subject: Lolla3WishList
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:52:41 GMT

	 wish these bands would play Lollapalooza III:

REM
Cure
Beautiful South
The The
New Order
INXS
Electronic
Morrissey
Ocean Blue

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From: usbroad@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: What would you want Lollapalooza III to be?
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:41:25 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Jul22.184212.20760@CS.ORST.EDU>, enriquk@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (everyday oozer) writes:
> 
> Kelly's wish list:
> 
> Pixies
> Helmet
> Mudhoney
> Godflesh
> Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy
> The Creamers
> Too Much Joy
> 
> 
> side note:  has anyone heard any news about Too Much Joy?  Are they putting
> out a new album soon or what?
> 
	What??? Somebody mentions Too Much Joy?  I definately second the 
vote for TMJ at Lolla III.  If any information is known out there in net
land about what TMJ is doing please post.  The last I heard there was mention
that they might be releasing an album in the late fall.
	---Rob
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: Techno/Rave vs. Industrial
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:26:23 GMT


dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:
>well what most people dont understand is that a lot of techno, whether
>it is hardcore acid house, or ambient electronic rain drops
>is usually brainless and easy to make, the only purpose for it
>being that in the hands of a skilled DJ, it will make REAL music
>it needs to be simple and repetitive, that way it give the DJ a little
>room,  its a BITCH to mix with somehting that changes its BPM or
>worse if it shifts from 8 counts a measure to 6 or something

well, yes... and no.

there's no reason a song with a steady beat and regular counts and changes
on multiples of four bars has to be boring OR repetitive.  having just put
out a techno single that is getting a reasonable amount of play around here,
i think i know what i'm talking about.  we definitely set out to make it
interesting to listen to, yet eminently workable in a DJ setting.

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Nirvanas Secret Song
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:01:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.203049.28240@cs.tulane.edu> hernande@cs.tulane.edu (Oliver Hernandez) writes:
>     Are there TWO untitled songs on "Nevermind"?  I've only heard one extra
>song that's about 10 minutes after "Something in the Way," and after that my
>CD player stops.  Can anyone explain this?
>

      [Shaking my head, sighing].  The thread that refuses to die.....

    There is no second bonus track on _Nevermind_, just that one 6-minute
  noisarama.  Listen again.  Believe your ears before others' posts.

                                                                   K!z!K
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From: nwc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Einstuerzende Neubauten)
Subject: Re: DIDs (Desert Island Discs)
Reply-To: nwc1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Beaver Consulting Co.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:37:04 GMT

Now, do we say strictly ten discs, or ten albums? I'll pretend and bend the
rules to make it ten albums, since two doubles are in there.

1.	Seventeen Seconds		The Cure
2.	Substance 1987			New Order
3.	Strategies against Architecture II
					Einstuerzende Neubauten
4.	The Land of Rape and Honey	Ministry
5.	Louder than Bombs		The Smiths
6.	Boys Don't Cry			The Cure
7.	Joy Division			Still
8.	Bona Drag			Morrissey
9.	That Total Age			Nitzer Ebb
10.	Watermark			Enya

Note: I'm really serious about "Seventeen Seconds", since I leave it in my
CD player on repeat for days at a time... on "In Your House"- which I can't
even guesstimate how many times I've heard. (Weird grammar there.) Try it
sometime. Put it on "single repeat" and let it flow...it blends the end
with the beginning so well, that it just goes on and on and on.


-- 
N.W. Choe
nwc1@midway.uchicago.edu
nwchoe@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Beaver Consulting Co. Chicago
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From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey)
Subject: Re: DIDs (Desert Island Discs)
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:51:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.010050.26682@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, cb338@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael A. Woo-Ming)
writes:
> If you were stuck on a desert island and could only bring 10 albums/cassettes/
> CDs whatever, what would you bring?  (Idea originally done by Tower Record's
> Pulse magazine)  What 10 albums could you not live without?  Feel free to
> put reasons why.

OK, here they are, in no particular order.  I restricted myself to one disc per
artist:

"The Dreaming", Kate Bush
"Rearmament", Happy Rhodes
"Radio Ethiopia", Patti Smith
"Aion", Dead Can Dance
"The Mahabharata", Movie soundtrack
"Love's Secret Domain", Coil
"Strategies Against Architecture II (Disc 1)",
        	Einsturzende Neubauten
"Little Earthquakes", Tori Amos
"D.o.A.  The Third and Final Report of
        Throbbing Gristle", Throbbing Gristle
"Bound by the Beauty", Jane Siberry

- Vishal
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From: rjhasket@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Da wEaSeL)
Subject: Re: Lolla III Wishlist
Followup-To: hell
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:49:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.164158.27897@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Vasilii.V.Petrenko@dartmouth.edu (Vasilii V. Petrenko) writes:
>Clear the way, now arrives my Lollapalooza III wish list:
>
>         Nine Inch Nails (Leading Off)
>         Enigma
>         U2
>         Public Enemy
>         They Might Be Giants
>         Primus
>         The Cure
>         Depeche Mode (Closing with Everything Counts)

ugh...what a barf list...yes to NIN, but everything else is out...

how about 
	NIN
	ClockDVA
	Front Line Assembly
	Godflesh
	1000 Homo DJs
	KMFDM 
	Doubting Thomas 
   
da wEaSeL
From: micheal@felix.lib.csulb.edu (Micheal Wojciechowski)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: What would you want Lollapalooza III to be?
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:14:25 GMT
Organization: California State University Long Beach Library

In article <DAMIR.92Jul22153502@wpi.WPI.EDU> damir@wpi.WPI.EDU (MR. Boy) writes:

Anything that is hard and fast.  I don't like these new top 40 bands.
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From: jazzman@vnet.ibm.com (John Bannister)
Subject: Screaming Trees/Mark Lanegan/Grunge Years (was Screaming Trees recommentdations?)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:11:49 GMT
Reply-To: jazzman@vnet.ibm.com (John Bannister)
Organization: IBM East Fishkill

> In a previous article, jazzman@jazzman.vnet.ibm.com (John Bannister) says:
> >(the mark lanegan album "the winding sheet" has)
> >more acoustic numbers.  if you can get your hands on a copy of 
> >"the grunge years" compilation from sub-pop, "ugly sunday" is 
> >a pretty good representation of the album as a whole.  the catalog
> >description of the lp summarizes in three words "chix luv it."
> 
> Wait, is this "the grunge years" a compilation of a lot of Grunge groups
> out on Subpop?  I thought Screaming Trees were on SST.  In any case, how
> recent is this "Grunge years" album, and which groups are on it?
> (Nirvana?)


they were on sst.  they have at least one sub-pop ep/maxi-single/whatever
with the "change has come" single on it.  their latest was on epic.
the "grunge years" comp has both "ugly sunday" and "change has come".
it also has L7, tad, nirvana, dickless, the fluid, mudhoney, 
babes in toyland, walkabouts, afghan whigs, and maybe more but i don't 
remember (beat happening maybe?).  i guess all of those bands with the 
exception of the walkabouts would be classified as grungy.  maybe the 
walkabouts' music could be called grungy folk rock.  
there's also an earlier sampler/compilation called "sub-pop 200" that 
would have a lot of similar stuff on it.  no guarantee of any screaming 
trees.  since i don't own it, i'm not really sure whats on it.  ditto for 
the new compilation of love songs entitled "afternoon delight".  


> >great (non-acoustic) version of a leadbelly tune.  mark calls it 
> >"where did you sleep last night", but i have a version by the cows
> >simply entitled "my girl."  i have no idea which one (if either)
> >is the original title.
> >
> >worth the money whether or not you're a big screaming trees fan.
> >its definitely not just a screaming trees album in disguise.
> 
> You're talking about the Lanegan album here, right?

yes
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From: bassler@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (bassler ryan p)
Subject: scritti politti
Summary: New Scritti Politti?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:12:43 GMT
Keywords: scritti politti

Ryan Bassler...(bassler@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) writes:

Does anyone know if Scritti is due for a new album?  The only new thing
I've heard was their cover of "She's a Woman" on Mtv's "Earth to Mtv (?)"
about a year ago and I couldn't find it in the imports.  I do know that
 David Gamson was busy producing Roger's "Bridging the
 Gap" album (Roger, who did his classic talkbox thing on Boom!).




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From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Subject: Re: What would you want Lollapalooza III to be?
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 09:21:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Lollapalooza

In article <1992Jul22.030101.5007@midway.uchicago.edu> at12@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

I've seen two really stupid ideas for Lolla III:

   Morrissey.  He'd be torn limb from limb, the squishy little
   euro-slug.  Definite crowd meat.

   No rap.  "It's patronizing..."  Only a lame butthead would be
   blind to the massive crossover between rap and alternative.
   Yeah, the mostly white crowd is paying moral lip service to
   racial genocide by supporting rap acts and buying rap
   tapes...but we're still *buying* the suckers and putting money
   in their pockets.  They're cleaning up on us, not the other way
   around.  In the four years I've lived in a black neighborhood
   I've been blasted out of my bed by all manner of rap...and never
   once heard Ice-T, PE, NWA, etc.  Like it's always my white,
   liberal friends talking about the latest Spike Lee film.

   Besides, when Ice-T played Lolla I he was trying to explain his
   stuff and rap in general to the white audience.  He obviously
   didn't feel patronized.  In fact, if you talked to him while he
   wandered around the booths with his posse, *he* sounded a little
   patronizing.  For good reason, considering the jackass questions
   people were asking.

>British groups: My Bloody Valentine, PiL, New Order (since they are 
>  supposedly releasing an album next year), Ride, Charlatans UK,
>  Peter Murphy, Love & Rockets

Just leave all the UK shitbags at home.  PiL?  At least Sid Vicious
had the balls to check out the right way.

On the other hand, I'd really go for a "Stick a Stake Through
Malcom McLaren's Heart" booth.  The joke being that he doesn't have
one.

>Industrial groups: Skinny Puppy, Front 242, Pigface, KMFDM

Pigface, or else just have Survival Research Labs unleash their
machines on the crowd for the length of one set.

>Rap groups: Disposable Heros of Hiphoprisy, Public Enemy

The rap group *will be* Cypress Hill.  You heard it here first.

>Headliners: Nirvana (starting a flame war...), (can't think of anyone else)

If Perry can get an album out in time for chart momentum, PfP will
headline Lolla III.

>Other: Smashing Pumpkins, Rage Against the Machine, Porno for Pyros,
>  Dinosaur Jr., Primus, Sonic Youth, Pixies, Shonen Knife, L7

L7 will be the PC equivalent of what Ice-T was for Lolla I, but
anything that gets 'em on the bill is fine since they are pure
thrash.  L7 *and* Hole, and Kurt can run a tattered cardigan booth
out back.

I'm betting we will see:
Primus
Pavement

I would like to see:
Crust
MC 900 Foot Jesus
Mudhoney (oblig. Seattle grunge)
Steel Pole Bath Tub (no real chance)

Actually, in line with the idea that Lolla III will be a rave
(ack!), do make it an all night show.  Run it from 2 to 2, with the
headliners coming in the middle.  
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From: cdorfner@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Clemens Dorfner (STUD-Eschenbacher))
Subject: Re: Achtung Baby???
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:15:41 GMT

tpodbury@metz.une.edu.au (Troy Podbury) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.155905.10544@spider.co.uk>, keitha@spider.co.uk (Keith Aitken) writes:
>> 
>> Achtung in in fact German, and I believe it means something like "look
>> out" or "danger" or something like that. (Any languages students out
>> there?)
>> 
>	Thats pretty close. It isn't actually a real german word, but
>is a slang word for attention.

It IS a real german word! And the above meanings are right; but
it has more of the meaning of "attention" or "look out" and less "danger".
For I'm a german, I should know...

 Clemens

-- 

 Clemens Dorfner : Internet: cdorfner@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
     The Idea Of Walking In A World, Is Equal To Something Else.
From: crp@ukc.ac.uk (C.R.Purtill)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: the Breeders
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:47:06 GMT
Reply-To: crp@ukc.ac.uk (C.R.Purtill)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <1992Jul27.204227.3370@syma.sussex.ac.uk> andrews@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andrew Shires) writes:

>Tanya Donelly apparently did not appear with The Breeders at the recentLondon
>gig (anyone there verify this?) as she had committments to Belly.  In fact,
>I think I read a report recently saying she had `left' The Breeders because of
>Belly, but that was unconfirmed.

Yes, it's true ... I can post/mail part of an NME article if you're interested
(in fact I thought I had ...).  Yer Breeders played at Glasto without Tanya
Donelly, and, partly because of Belly, she has in effect left The Breeders
permanently.


Cheers,

Cormac.
From: woycke@smiley.mitre.org (Daniel Woycke)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Nirvana: Why so popular?
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:10:55 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA

In article <1992Jul28.120458.5989@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:
>
><Stuff deleted for bandwidth...>
>
>However, I got the thought in myhead: Smells like is a song which has a
>wide appeal, but as soon as others hear the rest of the album, Nirvana
>won't be popular.
>
>How wrong I was.  My question is: WHY?  Why is the rest of the Nirvana
>album so popular?  The only reason I can gueess why Nevermind sold 4
>million copies is because the Top 40ers say, "Dude!  Nirvana is sooo
>cool, and I'm so popular for listening to them, and they're on the
>cutting edge of rock 'n roll (sic!) so I LOVE the rest of their album."
>
>Again, no flames, no Nirvana flames, just Top 40 flames.  (-:
>-- 
>Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
>Pro-Choice/Pro-Clinton/Gore '92

Eric, I think you are underestimating Top 40ers. It is not the fault
of the listeners. It is the fault of the radio programmers. Note the
sucess of Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Faith No More... If you play stuff every
hour on those backround music (the disappearing Top 40) stations
people will grow to like it. I personally liked "Lithium"
more than "Smells..." when I first heard the album, I thought it was
Beatlesque (what a word).

Thank You,

Daniel W. Woycke             |"I went out drinking with Thomas 
The MITRE Corporation	     |Paine..." -- Billy Bragg
7525 Colshire Drive (MS Z213)|"But I am still thirsty..."
McLean, VA   22102           |-- Arrested Development
woycke@mitre.org, woycke@smiley.mitre.org
From: jjwright@remus.rutgers.edu (   Jay)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Too Much F*cking Joy
Keywords: Too Much Joy
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:14:41 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <berthiau.712429801@iros1>, berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume) writes:
> Does anyone have any idea what TMJ is up to lately? Are they recording?

TMJ has a new album due out on August 11th.  I dont know the name but
am anxious to find out.  They tend to do very well with naming albums.

> Are they still doing gigs in some areas?  Does anyone have some more
> detailed info on them? Etc...

I wish that someone new and hopefully someone will compile a list and
post it on rec.music.info.  hope hope!!

> BTW, I wish I had gotten their Too Much F*ucking Joy t-shirt instead
> of the Cereal Killers T. ;D  Ah well! :)

If you write to them (find the address on the cereal killers album)
they will gladly send you an order form and you can order any number
of shirts including some green eggs and crack or son of sam i am.
plus many others..

> Eva
> bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu or
> ec1t@nike.cheme.cmu.edu

jay

jjwright@remus.rutgers.edu
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From: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu (Griffy)
Subject: Re: What would you want Lollapalooza III to be?
Reply-To: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:31:12 GMT

In article <Bs08GF.LMK@acsu.buffalo.edu>, sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
>In article <Bruw0w.IFK@acsu.buffalo.edu> wiatr-m@acsu.buffalo.edu (Marc Wiatrowski) writes:
>>my list:
>>
>>Morrissey
>>Winger
>>Nelson
>>Willy Nelson
>>Color me Bad
>>New Kids on the Block
>>Micheal Jackson
>>
>>marc
>
>Hey Marc , how about :
>
>The Cure ( to open for the following : )
>Mariah Carry
>Michael Bolton
>Cher
>Bette Midler
>Vanilla Ice
>Kriss Kross
>and for closing band :  The Cure again

   Well, to tell the truth, Morrissey would be a lot more appropriate for this
kind of line-up than the Cure!  Hell, the Cure would even be great for a REAL
list of LollaIII hopefuls as a headliner band (if the RHCP are, why not the
Cure?).

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From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: The Orb - Blue Room
Keywords: Orb
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 15:33:18 GMT

In <dennis.711933829@citr.uq.oz.au> dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer) writes:
>Hi there,
>Yesterday I got my hands on the Orb's CD single of the Blue Room.
>The version is the 39 minute (or so) mix.
>My question is, the packaging that it came in included an outer cardboard
>sleeve which seems to be too 'loose' to fit the inner gatefold CD. Does
>the second Blue Room CD single (with the edited versions) form a second
>part to complete a 'set'???

Sure does.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
 For every mad scientist who's had a convenient thunderstorm just on the night
his Great Work is finished and lying on the slab, there have been dozens who've
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: sonic youth's "dirty" - picture
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:41:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.173911.17302@tandem.com> Brady_David@Tandem.Com (David Brady) writes:
>In article <2A6897E2.29584@ics.uci.edu> bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian
>K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>>  The one with the "anal sex with stuffed animals" pictures and clear CD
>>  holders will be on the FIRST shippings of _Dirty_ only.
>>
>>  Crowd your record store July 21st for them.
>>
>WIll the CD longbox give a clue about which 'style' of CD artwork it has?  Or,
>is this being shipped w/o longbox?
>
>David
>

   Yeah, I believe so.  The one I got had an "Advisory: Explicit Content"
   sticker at the bottom.  But then again, I've only seen the first
   shippings.  Subsequent shippings are yet to come.

    There are a couple of songs on the album that say "fuck" and "shit", so
    that sticker could stay on for all I know, therefore making it difficult
    in the future to tell which one has the picture and which one doesn't.

     I bought my new copy yesterday, and I got one of the limited copies.

                                                       K!z!K


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