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From: goodwin@huey.udel.edu (Thomas Goodwin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Godzilla Vs Barkley
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:41:15 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

In article <1992Sep6.132643.23802@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> s1139457@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (ERLS (Erland Briggs)) writes:
>
>Hi Guys and Gals,
>    At the moment there is an add on TV promoting this Godzilla Vs Barkley
>    thing on September 9th.
>
>    WHAT THE H*LL IS IT ?????
>
>    I have watched the add a few times and I can't figure it out.
>    The only part that gives me clue is the Nike symbol at the end.
>    This prompts me to believe it is an add for shoes, but I haven't heard
>    anything about it.
>
>    Please enlighten me ... as I feel deprived and empty ... I NEED to know ...
>
>    L8r.

Is this guy for real?  I could spend all day flaming this idiot but rather
than wasting any more time on him I'll just inform him that it's an add
for a new Godzilla movie that will be produced by Nike and star Charles
Barkley.:-)

Tom
From: gary@ccs.northeastern.edu (Gary Duhaney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: DT II?
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:39:59 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

Let me retract what I said previously about not fielding a Dream Team II.
USOC says that it has no jurisdiction over who USA Bball puts on the
Olympic Team.  The spokesman says that whoever is one the team will have
to agree to everything in the athletes' code of conduct - especially the
medal-stnd uniforms.  So basically if we see pro's, we will be seeing
the Nike or Reebok or foo teams.  I can't imagine these guys wanting
to hurt their livelyhoods.

"The days of crossing things out in the code re over" the spokesman
says "We'll hve that baby in stone next time."  Still up for debate
is whether all US atletes will have to live in the village at Georgia
Tech.

"I'm opposed to unequal treatment," says LeRoy Walker, who will be
elected USOC president next month.  "It's a societal issue with me.
Athletes feel aggrieved that there is special treatment for some
and less special for others."  From the way the story is written
(statement sandwiched between two paragraphs about living
arrangements) I figure he means that the special treatment is being
allowed to live outside of the accomodations they set up.

Hey, I say if you can afford it live it.  The other atletes should
figure out if they have a chance at winning, if not then don't bother
showing up (referring to the ones that dont like it).  Then get a
shoe or clothes company to sponsor them.  Then they too can live
large.  If your best time has never beaten Carl Lewis' average
then don't bother show up.  Otherwise shut the heck up.

The article says that most top runners and tennis players didn't stay
didn't stay in the village either, and many of the village people didn't
blame them.  I guess it's just the media (needing a story - American's
think that they are better than every body else, this includes our
moron) and a few half-wits on the net that had a problem with it.

Janet Evans says she saw Barkley in the village and he was mobbed.
According to her there is no way they would have gotten any rest.

One advantage of Atlanta over Barcelona -- AC.

--

You know what would make a good story?  Something about a clown who
makes people happy, but inside he's real sad.  Also, he has severe
diarrhea.
From: ch44+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Glenn Huegle)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: DT II?
Date: 6 Sep 92 21:34:32 GMT
	<37757@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I personally think that DT II should have a greater number of college 
players...maybe a 50/50 mix.  Plus the pros should be people who weren't
on it this year.  

		But that's just my opinion.
			Chris
From: aminkoff@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Tony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: hustling
Keywords: n
Date: 12 Sep 92 06:59:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <minor.716152178@coal8> minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor) writes:
>Next, Rodman is always hustling. If you have played any team sports,
>you know how contageous a hustle attitude can be.

Maybe with Majerle, Barkley, and Ainge all in Phoenix next year,
they'll spread enough hustle around to pick up our sagging economy!
:^)

(Man, that's gonna be a heckuva team to watch.)

Tony
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 4 Sep 1992 21:30:54 EDT
From: <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: New York Knicks

     Are the Knicks going to win it all this year or what?  Take a look
at the starting lineup-
F Xavier McDaniel
F Charles Oakley
C Patrick Ewing
G Mark Jackson
G Rolando Blackmon
     Coming off of the bench they got John Starks, Anthony Mason, Hubert
Davis, Greg Anthony and of course the great Kiki "I AM NOT OLD YET!"
Vandeghwe.        Predictions-Knick and Bulls in the east(Jordan has
said the best player to ever guard him is Blackmon.)
                              Suns and Trailblazers(The Suns now have
Ainge.  And you can't forget about Barkly.
----So the Knicks will beat the Suns in the finals.(Sorry, Kurt Rambis
fans!)

                     From your newest source of info-Boss Sutherland
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From: rda452j@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (R.A. Misajon)
Subject: Re: Best players by position
Summary: best plyers at each position
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:13:35 GMT

In article <eoq.42.0@vthnw.cvm.msu.edu>, eoq@vthnw.cvm.msu.edu (Edward Quillen) writes:
> In article <92251.145833IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU writes:
> >From: IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
> >Subject: Best players by position
> >Date: 7 Sep 92 18:58:33 GMT
> >
> >    Here are my opinions on the five best players at each positions.
> >
> >PG  1-John Stockton               SG  1-Michael Jordan
> >    2-Tim Hardaway                    2-Clyde Drexler
> >    3-Kevin Johnson                   3-Mitch Richmond
> >    4-Derek Harper                    4-Jeff Hornacek
> >    5-Mark Price                      5-Reggie Lewis
> >
> >                     C  1-David Robinson
> >                        2-Patrick Ewing
> >                        3-Hakeem Olajuwon
> >                        4-Shaquile O'Neille
> >                        5-Brad Daugherty
> >
> > SF  1-Charles Barkley             PF  1-Karl Malone
> >     2-Scottie Pippen                  2-Dennis Rodman
> >     3-Chris Mullin                    3-Derrick Coleman
> >     4-Dominique Wilkins               4-Larry Johnson
> >     5-James Worthy                    5-Kevin Willis
> >
> >     Remember, these are just my opinions.  I made this up of the
> >top of my head so there is probably some people I forgot about.  I
> >also am not sure if Rodman is a power forward.  He always seems to
> >guard SF's on defense.  What do you think?
> >
> >Brent Sutherland-University of Maine at Orono
> 

How can you include Shaq as one of the top centres when he hasnt even played 
one NBA game. He may become one of the best but then again he may noy .
it's a bit premature to rate him 4  

here's my lIst

SF                                          PF

1. Charles Barkley                          I. Karl Malone
2. Chris Mullin                             2. Charles Barkley
3. Scottie Pippen                           3. Larry Johnson
4. Dominiue Wilkins                         4, Kevin McHale
5. James Worthy                             5. Larry Nance

c                         pg                     sg
1. Robinson               Stockton               Jordan
2. Ewing                  k.Johnson              Drexler
3. Olajuwon               Hardaway               Dumars
4. Daugherty              Thomas                 Lewis
5. Mutombo                Price                  Richmond
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 9 Sep 1992 21:15:57 EDT
From: <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: FACT

     The Celtics have not won a championship since they had the
great Greg Kite.  The Lakers have not won a championship since
they had the spectaculiar Kurt Rambis.  Hay its true!!

$$$$$$$$$$$$$Brent Sutherland$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
From: iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: POOH RICHARDSON - CHUCK PERSON TRADE
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:43:52 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

The Minnesota Timberwolves traded Pooh Richardson to 
the Indiana Pacers for Chuck Person.

I do not see the reason for this trade on Indianas part. They
already possess one of the better shooting guards in the NBA
in Reggie Miller, and an above average point guard in
Micheal Wiliams, who is coming off his best year.


mThis probably means that Detlef Schrempf will start at small forward 
with Lasalle Thomson and Dale Davis altertnating at power forward.

The Timberwolves now possess a decent front line in Chuck Person (SF)
and Christian Laettner (PF). Tony Campbell should now figure as
the third forward on the team.
From: hira@cme.nist.gov (Ron Hira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: The Bullets lose another
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:41:51 GMT
Reply-To: hira@cme.nist.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

It looks like AJ English, a second yr guard out of VA Union is
going to Europe. He follows Haywoode Workman who went last year.
Ironically, AJ signed with Trieste, the team that was wooing Gugs.

AJ was exciting to watch at times with his drives to the hoop, but
he seemed to be a bit undersized at SG and unable to handle the ball
at PG. No word on no "D" Ledell, but hopefully the freight train will
be back. He was definitely hurt by the holdout last year, and he does
add to the Bullets offense when its languishing. Plus he's fun to 
watch barreling into the lane with that svelt body.

No word on Gugs as of yet. Did anyone catch the news conference he had
last week?

Brent Price (Wash's 2nd rd pick) signed a 3 yr deal and looks to 
backup Michael Adams. 

Let's see, the lineup is

C Pervis 
  Charles (2ppg) Jones 
  Greg foster (probably will get cut)

Fs Harvey Grant
   Larry Stewart
   Bernard (maybe)
   Fatso (probably not)
   Gugs (hopefully)
   Eackles (not likely)
   Alarie (still hurt)

Gs Adams
   Chapman
   Price
   Wingate (no word)
   

Hopefully, they'll win more than 25 (last year's total), but I'm not 
holding my breath.

Oh yeah, supposedly the celts offered Kleine for Fatso, but Wes
vetoed this because he doesn't like Kleine.  

Ron
From: rpierce@oracle.com (Russell Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jordan >= Magic && Bird
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:19:53 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, CA  94065
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

>When Jordan was playing guard he dished out some really nice passes.

	What??  Jordan pretty much always play guard.

>No one went wild about it.  Also, Jordans role is not to set up

	Maybe no one you know, I've seen fans go nuts after MJ
	makes a killer assist.

>his teammates as it was for Bird/Magic.

	I'm sorry but I always thought that basketball was a TEAM
	game and that it is every players role to set up his other
	teammates.  Even though they play different positions, 
	all players should be doing their best to create opportunities
	for themselves as well as their teammates.  I also think you 
	are being a little anal about Jordan not getting credit for
	being a great passer.  Pretty much everyone I know thinks
	he's a great passer and team player.  


		Russ
From: IOR@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Thomas Hyer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Hakeem Olajuwon trade rumors
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:52:35 GMT
 <1992Sep14.165737.3919@HQ.Ileaf.COM>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Sep14.165737.3919@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM
(christopher raczka) says:
>
>The Best HAkeem rumor that I have heard to date has the Pistons
>sending Dennis Rodman to Orlando, and the MAGiC sending Stanley Roberts
>to Houston, with the Rockets sending HAkeem to Detroit
>

  Sure!  I'd give up Hakeem for some backup center in a second!

  Just one question before we pull the trigger on this deal:

  Can we trade him for Duckworth instead?

Tom "I hate idiots with wet dreams about trades" Hyer
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Subject: Re: Charlotte/Orlando
From: M.Tuohy@massey.ac.nz (M.P. Tuohy)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 00:06:15 GMT
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Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
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Subject: Re: Who is Kurt Rambis?
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:02:36 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

In article <1992Sep9.073915.26426@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>, adem1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Adam Edward         Demeter        ) writes:
> Is Kurt Rambis the guy who played PF for the Lakers in their decade of glory?
> If so/not what does he do now and what is so funny about his glasses?
> Please excuse my ignorance....

Yes, that is Kurt Rambis.  This last season he was collecting splinters on
the bench for the Phoenix Suns.  He will be in preseason camp, but it is
doubtful he'll make the team.

As for the glasses, he tried wearing contacts once but it just didn't work
for him.
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (jon blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Fantasy leagues?
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:15:53 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (jon blixt)
Organization: Your Organization Goes Here
From: wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jazz musings (long)
Date: 9 Sep 1992 21:11:25 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

[deleted a bunch of good commentary about the Jazz]

I have to take you to task on one comment, and that was about the 
negligible draft picks that the Jazz traded away.  One of the picks
was Duane Causwell, he could be the guy that the Jazz are looking for!
How is Duane doing at Sacramento?  In the few times that I have seen
him play in the pros, he has looked good.  Is he levelling out or still
improving?

Rick
From: driver8@night.Corp.Sun.COM (Albert Handa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: lakers
Date: 9 Sep 1992 13:29:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: driver8@night.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: night.corp.sun.com
Keywords: status

Hello,

Does anyone know the status of the Lakers in regards to roster changes
at present?  Any trades or rumors?

Al
From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Knicks Blunder
Date: 11 Sep 1992 23:32:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Well, losing a tough, put it on the line, player like X drops NY into an
"also-ran" for the coming season, IMHO.  Their GM must be a moron, letting
such a tough contributor go to a conference rival!  If I were a Knicks fan,
I'd be calling for resignations...  Seems like everytime NY starts to look
like they're  heading for the top of the NBA, their GM makes a boneheaded
decision and they slip.

This acquisition should bump Boston back up into the Elite of the NBA.

Mike
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From: iacurtop@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Iacurto Paul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: BASKETBALL OR HOCKEY?
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:56:12 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

I want to ask all you Americans out there a simple question:
What's more exciting: a good basketball game or a good hockey game?

Most people here in Canada will tell you that hockey is a more
exciting sport than basketball. Although I am a big basketball fan,
I must admit that nothing beats a good hockey game with lots of goals,
 great saves, good bodychecks and lots of end to end action.

Basketball is fun to watch. My favorite plays are the slam dunk and the
alley oop. But it lacks the intensity of hockey and it is a sport that
is basically limited to a halfcourt game. Fast breaks are very exciting
but are not seen that often except by some teams that use it as a main
part of their offense (Lakers, Bulls, Warriors).

Both are fun to watch but I give hockey a bit of an edge.
Does anyone agree ?

Here is my list of favorite sports to watch on the tube:
1-  Hockey
2 - Basketball
3 - Baseball
4 - Football
5 - Tennis
6 - WWF (even though its fake )
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From: reijonen@milton.u.washington.edu (Ted Reijonen)
Subject: Re: Hakeem trade rumors
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:41:30 GMT

The Tacoma Morning News Tribune reported this morning that the Sonics are 
after Hakeem.  That's the first mention of this rumor up here--no surpise,
as the Supes are notorious for being closed-mouthed when it comes to 
trade rumors.

Sonic President Bob Whitsitt would neither confirm nor deny the newspaper
report, but did say that Seattle is looking into a 3-for-2 or 2-for-1 deal
with a team he wouldn't name.

Seattle players named in the Tacoma report are Benjamin, McKey, and "McMillan
or another player" if the 3-for-2 deal goes through.

The report is being discussed on the local all-sports radio station, which is
owned by Sonic owner Barry Ackerly and shares an office building with the
Sonics.  That connection convinces me (as if John's analysis hadn't already
done so) that this is serious -- you'd never hear an unfounded Sonic trade
rumor on an Ackerley-owned radio station.

I could support this deal, as long as McMillan, Pierce, and Kemp are not   
included.  Values of Kemp and Pierce go without saying, and McMillan is
the glue of this team.  Anybody else (John?) hearing anything?
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: WEEKLY POSTING: Data available on FTP sites.
Originator: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Las Hermanas de Nuestra Senora de los Pepinares
Distribution: net
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 09:00:02 GMT

There is a bunch of NBA and NFL data -- stats, records, game scores,
schedules (INCLUDING 1992/93 schedules!) -- available for public FTP
on wuarchive.wustl.edu.  (Also known as ftp.wustl.edu, internet
address 128.252.135.4) You can access the data through anonymous FTP.
To do so, type:
	ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu
and then enter "anonymous" as the user-id, and your e-mail address
as the password.  Once in there, switch to the directory of your
choice.  For NFL scores, the directory is
	/pub/nfl
For NBA stuff (so much more than just scores), it's
	/doc/misc/nbastats/facts
Both directories contain a README file, which will tell you more
about the available data.

The details of the FTP program may be system-dependent.  If in
doubt, consult your system administrators.  Enjoy!

--Gidi

PS:  Lots of thanks to Washington University at St. Louis.

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: The X Factor
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:56:53 GMT

u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>Phoenix to NY...not enough balls to go around, never mind the fact that it
>was Tom Chambers who was shooting the bricks.  Too many guns on that team
>for another one.

	Hmm... interesting enough now -- because now Phoenix not only
	has Chambers -- but also Barkley, KJ, and Ainge!  Talk about not
	enough balls to go around!

	I don't think it was so much about # of shots that took X out of
	town.  In that NY/Phoenix trade, I think the Suns were looking
	to trade for a younger player (in this case, Jerrod Mustaf),
	who had displayed a lot of "potential" (whether Jerrod ever lives
	up to it is another story).  X was also going to be a free agent
	after this season, so I'm sure they didn't want to get bogged
	down in contract negotiations and such.

	Interestingly enough, however, that Chambers, McDaniel, and Dale
	Ellis once made up THE scoring triumvirate on some Sonics teams
	in the late 80's.  From what I recall, they did rather well,
	making it to the Conference Finals, only to fall to the Lakers
	in '87...

	Jazzy J
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From: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Subject: Re: Hakeem Olajuwon trade rumors
Keywords: Hakeem Olajuwon trade
Reply-To: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 16:57:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.224014.18361@leland.Stanford.EDU> terry@leland.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:
> 
> I wonder if anyone out there has heard any other rumors or can confirm
> or deny the ones discussed above.
> 

The Best HAkeem rumor that I have heard to date has the Pistons
sending Dennis Rodman to Orlando, and the MAGiC sending Stanley Roberts 
to Houston, with the Rockets sending HAkeem to Detroit

-- 
	" There will always be a frontier where there is an open mind
          and a willing hand. "

        C. F. Kettering
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