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From: arthur@contel0.com (Arthur Resler Engineering Services)
Subject: helmet mounted air horns
Organization: IPC Information Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:09:30 GMT

Local dealers seem unable to supply helmet mounted air horns,
so I am on my own. Some advice would be appriciated as follows:
1) Location; one on either side or both on top.   It seems
both on top would clear a second rider when you turned your
head more easily than side mounts, but does the wind against
the bells of the horns tend to lift your head?
With side mounts, is it necessary to mount the smaller horn
farther from you head to balance the wind force and prevent a
continous twisting strain on the herad?
2) Attachment; Helmet venders seen to have forgotten to provide
mounting lugs; is it acceptable to fiberglass aliminium blocks
to the selected location, and then drill and tap for the horn 
bases?  Does anyone know the gross helmut weight rating for
any brand helmet?  They seem not to provide this important
specification in their literature.
3) Air Line routing; Again considering a second rider, a frontal
location seems necessary, using a Wye for side mounts, or a
single hose for top mounted horns with a common feed. Comments?
4) Air line color and type; A self coiling 1/4 inch air hose seems
appropriate: is a quich connect at each end necessary, or just 
at one end. If the latter, at the bike or at the helmet? Also,
should the hose be color cordinated to the bike or to the riding
suit?
5) Valve; Are lanyard operated valves acceptable or does the
lanyard become difficult to reach? If usable, is over the tank 
prefered, or down the front? If electric solenoid valves are
required, will the averge bikes horn switch operate them or
is abuffer relay also needed: should a second switch be provided
to disable the air horns when nor required (are they ever NOT
required?) 
6) Air Compressor; I need mounting sugestions.  How about Honda
Godwings with air suspension; do they have spare capacity
suffient to operate the horns? Is the electrical capacity of
most bike adaquate for the compressor?
7) Anything I overlooked?

Thanks for any suggestions, comments, etc.

Arthur Resler

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun)
Subject: Re: Nude riding is dangerous (was Re: Risk takers)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 04:42:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Gifs, Nude, Bikers, Proof!

 shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun) writes:
>
>The proofs are here. I have 6 gifs of bikers riding without their
>leathers and no easy way to distribute them. Bruce "Scanner" Tanner

Yes, Laxsldoo, it would be nice if you could manage an ftp for these.
If not, it would help if I could email the gifs to some of the local
biker mailing lists. I do not want to do this without the approval
of the list maintainer. If anyone maintains a mailing list, email me with
the list address and I will send the 6 gifs to the list.

Oh, forgot to thank Hesh for taking the trouble to scan these in.
And thanks to Andrea for taking the pictures. You all remember Andrea,
David Jevans wife, who scheduled their WEDDING during the joust last
year. I think that was so that his biker buddies wouldn't show up.
And now she is convinced that it was a good thing that they didn't.
And thanks to Jevans for coming up with the idea in the first place.
And thanks to everyone for posing so nicely. And more thanks to the
neighbors for not complaining. And still more thanks to the cops
for not showing up.

And Ed? forget the bike, get a hot tub.

-- 
Lissa
shoun@netcom.com     (408) 926-0812
From: crsg9887@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chad R. Sandstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:44:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvI99G.1n9
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

krafft@fnalc.fnal.gov (N07732_KRAFFT, KEITH G.) writes:

>Is it just here in the midwest, or are Harley riders jagoffs all over the
>U.S./World?                                          ^^^^^^^what?

[ snip, snip,....]
>doesn't offer bike models similar to CBR's/FZR's/GSXR's/Ninja's/Katana's/
>FJ's/Enduro's, etc. Everyone in my crowd wants SPEED, not a harlee.(sic)
>(Their way too slow, cannot corner worth a fuck, and are too $$)

  Well, well,  in my Understanding of the World(tm) 
  riding a motorcycle is something like making love....
  you get it on, and you ride and ride 
  "SPEED" rarely counts for much enjoyment....
  but, I suppose that when you're worried
  about your momma catchin' ya, 
  "SPEED" is all that counts

>This post does not apply to DoDers who own Harleys, we know they are only
>  way cool.

  oh, what a recovery!

>Keith Krafft Krafft@fnal.fnal.gov | "I love her, I need her, I seed her.
                                                                ^^^^ yup 

chad sandstrom #1993 (HD FLSTN, I am biased, aren't we all)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Experience with SLICK 50
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6EF2512230B2631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:34:10 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:40:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.091028.8322@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de> Lilijan Kadric,
kadric@faw.uni-ulm.de writes:
>I have a Yamaha XT600 and I'm thinking of adding SLICK 50 with the next
oil change.
>This additive is supposed to be added only once in 60.000 miles.
>Now I was wondering if this product is any good or whether it may cause
damage to the
>engine.
>So if anyone has made experience with SLICK 50 please drop me a note.

Oh gawd...here we go again...there was a long thread on this awhile back..
the Unofficial DoD Agreement (TM) was NEVER USE SLICK 50.  It's bad for
your bike and it makes a lousy mixer in cocktails.



-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org

DoD 0628
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: PICKET FENCES - NOT ugh!
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:42:35 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Hello folks,
   I thought some Denizens might be interested in this.


[ Article crossposted from rec.arts.tv ]
[ Author was Matt Hefferman ]
[ Posted on 29 Sep 92 16:09:01 GMT ]

iott@rtsg.mot.com (Joel K. Iott) writes:
>ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair) writes:
>>Cheesy David Lynch imitation.
>
>I prefer to think of it as "Lynch Lite".
>Less violence & darkness, familiar odd-ball characters.

I'll say! Last night's promo for this week's episode showed Michael J.
Anderson (aka Twin Peaks' [Little] Man from Another Place) riding into town,
on an elephant no less. I guess they couldn't find a llama.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Matt Hefferman                   "Oh dear, he's signed his name again." - MPFC
Bolt Beranek and Newman, Inc.
Newport, RI
hefferman@ccs1.bbn.com

--

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* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Vultures landing on Ed? (was Re: Crosswinds)
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Reply-To: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:51:28 GMT

In article <dbc-300992021348@b62003.student.cwru.edu>, dbc@po (Dean Cookson) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.053114.7091@javelin.sim.es.com>,
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) wrote:
>> 
>> Hah! A chance to tie this into that other circular topic (besides beer),
>> Lance Holst. If I recall correctly, The Jerk (tm) ruined a perfectly
>> good helmet on a vulture last year. Either the bird mistook him for a
>> corpse, or it didn't care for his writing style. It was a noble attempt,
>> but the the score was Holst 1, Bird 0.
>
>One could argue, that by being used to protect Lance's head, the helmet
>was ruined, and that what really happened was: The Jerk (tm) ruined a
>perfectly good vulture on his head.

All right.  That's enough!  This is the last Vulture joke I'm gonna
put up with.  You think I don't know what you Spagthorp Weenies are
talking about?  You're trying to put down the Eisenfaust Vulture!
You Dog Riders are just sore because the mighty Condor whipped the
Werewolf in the '37 speed trials.

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1949 Eisenfaust Vulture/1988 FZR400/1985 ZX900 Ninja/1977 RD400D
        "Riding an Eisenfaust is like riding a fist"
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Pocket size multimeter
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:07:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

jlp@blink.att.com (Jon Peticolas(x7058)) writes:

>DVMs are nice, I have the Radio Schlock pocket DVM, it works, 
>it was cheap, I like it, but it sucks for measuring voltage on 
>a running engine. The ignition and voltage regulator noise drive 
>it crazy. 

Placing a 1uF capacitor between the leads should solve this problem.
Then you can get the advantages of a digital multimeter - it's more
accurate, more rugged, smaller, easier to read, more reliable, and
cheaper.
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency (was Re: More gasohol)
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:29:50 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Uh, hmm.  I'm not sure what bob pasker is trying to say exactly.  Perhaps
he is being deliberately provocative to start a flame war by invoking 
Lenin (of all people).  So just which side of the fence did you come
down on bob?  It looked like both sides to me.
   As I have said before, I think the government is being silly by trying
to force gasohol on people.  I am relatively unconvinced that ethanol will
cause any harm to my motors, but so what, it probably won't accomplish its
stated purpose either.
   By the way, whoever said that ethanol is cheaper than gas is wrong.
When regular was up around $1.30 or so per gallon then the oil companies
started adding alcohol because it was economically reasonable, but when
the price of gasoline started dropping below about $1.20 most of them 
quit using ethanol.  Even when the price of gas was that high I seem to
remember that the Carter Administration had to pass some tax incentives
to make the numbers work out so that the oil companies would use it.

--

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* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Toronto visit; Oz hols
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords:  The longest voyage starts with a hop across to Gatwick: -(
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:47:00 GMT

	Greetings to Toronto area r.m-ers.  I'm going to be in town soon
(9th-18th October) and thought maybe we could arrange a get-together, perhaps
Friday 17th.  The conference is at the Royal York, but I'll be staying with
a friend in Scarborough. e-mail me at my Swiss address if you're interested.

	Any Aussies who have read this far, my next stop after TO is Byron
Bay ("Where the sun first greets Australia.").  I have no plans at all, other
than to fly out of Sydney again on the 28th November (bloody Swiss government
is forcing me to take accumulated holidays :-), but I'll probably visit
Armidale, Sydney, and maybe Canberra during my hols.  Drop me a line so I can
look you up if I pass by your town. (When's the Oz GP?  Maybe I can visit my
Adelaide friends if the timing's right).

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
From: goblin1@athena.mit.edu (Ihab A Elnaccash)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 80/81 CB750 s
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:09:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Oct6.170933.24206
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I was wondering if anyone could tell me a little about these in their various
incarnations, i.e. the custom, the supersport the F, the K, etc. which is wich,
and any useful info would be appreciated as I may be buying a pair (a custom and
a supersport)  Also which 750 looks kind of cafe racerish with the springy
looking fork covers?  Mentioning any features, or problems would be really
helpful.  
			Thanks --Ihab Elnaccash
				/'71 CB 350 /
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning into it and DoD weenies
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:58:08 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <1992Sep27.015601.17589@adobe.com>, cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
> First the DoD, to get that out of the way. Since none of the hyenas
> who claim to have a DoD number will tell me what DoD is, I guess I'll
> pass on it for both our sakes. I quit playing the "giggle behind your
> hand at the outsider" game about 25 years or so ago, so I don't think
 
Sure we'll tell you, but.........

Listen, it's not that tough to figure out.  And, we don't giggle behind
our hands, we laugh in your face!   If you've read this newsgroup more than
twice you should have caught on to what's going on.  Surely you didn't
quit trying to figure things out 25 years ago.

Clue:  my sig almost gives it away.

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Thphey,  ithn't that a theerthucker |
 | DoD# 541   'Disciples of Daffy'    |  thuit?"         Daffy Duck          |
From: U2EF5@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: LOST THE KEY
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:47:28 GMT

Since the ignition key probably unlocks the gas tank and other assorted
devices on the bike, and you probably would have a hard time replacing
these locks also, you can do what I did and hire a locksmith to make
you one.  I had already replaced the ignition due to a bad switch, so
I could run the bike, but I couldn't put gas in it :-(.  The locksmith
costs were around $50.0 (makes you wonder why you spent so much time
in school) for a few minutes work.
************************************************************
Gary J. Edwards            |  '82 V45 Sabre
West Virginia University   |
Morgantown, WV             |
U2EF5@WVNVM.WVNET.EDU      |   (304)293-3422 ext. 401
DoD#0615                   |
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Sleeping Pillions, Squid Awards, and other fun
Date: 25 Sep 92 13:34:26 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

> Robert Kennedy (robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
> 
> : Has this ever happened to you? What should I do?
> 
I just had a really lame idea about this problem IF you have a backrest.

Merely have the pillion remove his/her jacket, have them sit with their
back tight against the backrest, then put on the jacket OVER the
backrest!  It may be a little snug, and the effect may be like carrying
a scarecrow around, but what the heck.

Terry


-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Thphey,  ithn't that a theerthucker |
 | DoD# 541   'Disciples of Daffy'    |  thuit?"         Daffy Duck          |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: K75 counterbalancer? (Was: BMW K100rs)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:39:22 GMT

I'm posting this for Charlie - his Pnews is broken.
-John

According to an article in the BMW MOA News, a counter-balancer setup
for an inline four would take two (2) countershafts.  Like I believe 
are used in the Porsche 944 engine.  Both the three and four have a gear
driven output shaft that lays below the crankshaft; this provides a natural
place for counterbalance weights on the three, where one shaft does the trick.
The article promoted the idea that counterbalancing the four would take a 
complete redesign, and turn it into something resembling a lead wing ...
(see sig below).  The same article talked about the economics of producing
a four valve head for the three - no way it's feasible, as the three only
sells well here in the US of A (probably because of our repressive speed
limits).

>*AND* THE FOUR ISN'T BUZZY!!!! Mine, as well as several others I've
>

I of course agree!


Charlie Smith    csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers# 411, BK Ohio V 
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff. 
             {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Why is my face shield so scratched so soon?
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:23:41 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

I have had my helmet (a Bieffe Classic, if it matters) for less than
five months and the face shield is scratched as hell. No, I haven't
face-planted or dropped the thing, nor have I cleaned it with 100
grit sandpaper. The scratches are tiny in width, mostly horizontal,
and there are billyuns and billyuns of 'em. I don't want to have
to buy a new face shield every four months -- any ideas on why it
scratched up so fast, what I can do to repair it, and/or what I
should replace it with?

I've thought about a welder's shield, but that kinda puts a crimp
in the second part of SLOW LOOK LEAN ROLL.
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
USPA #A-10080 (lapsed)				DoD #721  '81 Maxim 650
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: stupid people
Date: 1 Oct 92 01:17:59 GMT
Reply-To: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Organization: QPSX Communications
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

: mfisch@pdx064.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Matthew Fisch) writes:
: 
: >  I still maintain that the advantage that cars hold is downforce providing
: >aerodynamics.  Please don't tell me about "wings" and "spoilers" on street 
: >cars, I'm talking about the kind found on race cars, which actually do 
: >something.  Given equal riders, that's where you'll find the cars beating
: >the bikes, and then, only the more sophisticated ones.

What about comparing lap times of 500GP bikes and F1 cars at the same
circuit?

Does anyone have the lap records for both cars & bikes at the same
circuit? (Hockenhiem doesn't count as the car version uses all of the
chicanes).  Kyalami should be ok?


Trivial minds want to know

Cornad
---
"There's something stirring in my loins and it isn't the spirit of Jesus"
                - Helen Razor, JJJ announcer, 1992.

Email: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Snail: QPSX Communications, Private Bag 24, West Perth 6005, Australia. 
Numbers:(ph) +61 9 324 1641, (fx) +61 9 321 2984 (dod) 0604

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 01:00:53 GMT

In article <Z152RB1w165w@vector0.UUCP> jon%vector0.UUCP@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused) writes:
>scatlin@bnr.ca (Scot Catlin) writes:
>
>>         Has anyone ever given thought to a new group called
>> rec.moto.tech?  I know the racing and harley ideas have been
>> discussed.  How about tech?
>
>     How about just clean up this newsgroup?
>
>     Sorry, but I've had enough of splits that claim to raise
>the IQ level of the posting.  Here's an extreme example, take
   ...   stuff deleted about how bad alt.rock-n-roll has gotten   ...
                    
>     HOW ABOUT YOU DOD IDIOTS STOP FLAMING LIKE IMMATURE BRATS?
>Now, is that so hard?  Why this live to flame stuff
>exists I have no idea.  Read the Nettiquette postings.
>Don't post one-liners.  Don't post AT ALL if your followup
>includes more quoted lines than your own original lines.
>etc etc etc --- it's all very basic.  Forget the split.
>
>>         I sure hate to see a news group with such a worthy topic go
>> down the tubes like it seems to be.
>
>     Damn straight.  Maybe put some Nettiquette in the FAQ and
>cut out the silly response/flame garbage.
>
>--Jon / (sometimes wonder why) DOD #2600
>   jon%vector0@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US                Life is like a kiwi.
>   PacBell.COM!sactoh0!vector0!jon
>

Sounds like someone thinks life should be fair ...  ought to turn in
his DoD number with an 'tude like that!  I thought that's what kill files
were invented for??  Where else is someone trying to reform from squidleyness
supposed to get wisdom and guidance?  Where else is someone who just bought
a XYZ-1100 as his first bike supposed to get advice on how to make it faster
without creating a road hazard of himself?  Where else is someone supposed
to proclaim his undying (censored) faith in the ST-1100 (sicko)?  Where
else is someone going to go to get advice on what bike to buy with only
$2000 to spend?  Where else can someone hear bikeless Ed expound on 
worldly topics?  The world wonders.


Charlie Smith    csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers# 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff.
             {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }

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