From: waco@cbnewse.cb.att.com (john.l.broughton)
Subject: Re: Non-jumping Arizona; was: Re: Phone number
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:04:19 GMT


>Subject: Non-jumping Arizona; was: Re: Phone number...
In article <1992Nov23.060451.13904@athena.cs.uga.edu>mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
>
>In article <5917@naucse.cse.nau.edu> rrw@sunset (Bob Wier) writes:
>>From article <Nov19.211711.81762@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, by gw214790@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Galen Watts):
>>> 1-800-521-6274, 8:00am to 4:30pm Mountain Time.:w
>>
>>  Note that this is CURRENTLY true, however this berserk state jumps
>>  back and forth between mountain standard time and pacific daylight
>>  time.  During the winter, we are on MST - the other half of the year
>>  we are on PDT.
>
>Falsch.  Arizona is on MST year-round.  MST equals PDT, which is what
>California uses in the summer.

  True, but keep in mind the Indian reservations in AZ DO use daylight
  saving time.  If you enter Arizona from the NE corner, you will be in
  the Navajo reservation and your watch set to DST will be correct during
  the summer months in places like Canyon De Chelly, Monument Valley,
  Kayenta, etc.  However, if you go to the north rim of the Grand Canyon,
  once you cross the Colorado at Marble Canyon, you will be on MST; and I
  thought the ranger at Jacob Lake didn't know what time it was when she
  told me what time we could observe the sunset from the north rim -- foolish
  me, never thought to ask her what the current time was.  My watch was
  correct when we left Kayenta, so why shouldn't it still be correct?
  Didn't dawn on me until we were on our way back to Cliff Dwellers Lodge
  after visiting the canyon and having a quick bite at Jacob Lake that she
  was right and they were using MST.  When the XYL asked why the clock on
  the wall at the restaurant said 7:00 p.m. and our watches said 8:00 p.m.,
  we then realized the ranger actually did know the correct time.

  BTW, if you pass through Cliff Dwellers and stop at the cafe, you should
  see my amateur license plate on the wall.  They have a large collection
  of licenses, auto, fishing, shrimping, etc. on the wall but I did not see
  an amateur call sign plate, so  I sent my 1979 plate to them for the
  first amateur plate for their collection.  That takes care of the 9th
  call district, only nine more for a complete amateur call sign plate
  collection of the 10 call areas in the lower 48.  If you will be driving
  through there and have an old call sign plate, take it along.

  Cliff Dwellers is about 12 miles SW of Marble Canyon on Alt. 89 between
  Marble Canyon and Jacob Lake.  It appears on some maps, not others.

>As far as I know, Arizona is the only state that does _not_ jump time
>zones every spring and fall.
>
>What's so great about daylight saving time?  It's like trying to lengthen
>an apron by adding a piece taken off the other end.

  Well, more daylight in the evening is preferable to more in the mornings
  for many folks.  However, for those at the extreme edges of time zones,
  it may be good or bad, depending on which edge they are on.

>-- 
>:-  Michael A. Covington     internet mcovingt@uga.cc.uga.edu 
>:-  Artificial Intelligence Programs       phone 706 542-0358
>:-  The University of Georgia                fax 706 542-0349
>:-  Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A.     amateur radio N4TMI

73,

John L. Broughton, WB9VGJ
AT&T
Naperville, IL
john.l.broughton@att.com
att!john.l.broughton

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