From: smolin@physics.ucla.edu (Smolin)
Subject: confusion, what else?
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 08:06:03 GMT

Ok, I screwed up the attributions.  Sorry.  Anyway it is Rachel and I speaking
here.......

>>>ObAngst: i am wondering if i am just being made use of to pass the time...
>>>i find it so difficult to believe that someone would be interested in me.
>>>
>>>bah.

>>I am confused.  Rachel, aren't you the person who was complaining
>>about not meeting any worthwhile males?  Does this line indicate you
>>actually have a boyfriend?  Have you been holding out on us. :-)
>>Or am I just confused?  I probably am, that is normal.

>i do not have a 'boyfriend'. interpret that as you wish.

I know if I try to interpret this I will end up wrong somehow, so I won't
touch it other than to say I am curious and that I hope that the 'someone'
is actually interested in you and not just using you to pass the time.
But I am still confused since maybe I missed some earlier things you wrote.
You say you find it hard to believe anyone is interested in you, why?  My
memory of earlier posting of yours is that you thought there was no one 
worthy of your interest in astrophysics in Arizona.  

Please keep in mind that I am a relative newbie to posting and I am just
honestly asking questions.  I figure someone will think I am flaming you for
thinking there are no worthwhile males around.  I'm not.

>>On a separate note, since I came to this newsgroup fairly recently I think
>>I have missed out on some important definitions.  Here are my guesses.
>>
>>Bowhead--Innocent, naieve, traditional (barefoot and pregnant) type female.
>>Not what a femminist wants to be.
>>
>well, no--a bowhead is a sorority type, who has no brains and whose daddy pays
>for everything her litttle (nonexistent) heart desires.

Oh, I get it.  There is some overlap between your definition and mine, though
they aren't exactly the same.

>>Alpha Human--Average stupid successful not very nice guy (or woman).  Mostly
>>wants empty sex and gets it.
>>
>check.

Roger.

>>Delta Males/Females--The intellectual elite, nice guys/girls (TM) 
>>(ok, women, but it doesn't sound right after 'guys').
>>
>not elite--that's too successful-sounding. mostly people who have trouble
>being comfortable in social situations with MOTAS.

I didn't so much mean elite as in successful so much as that those of us
reading and posting here are likely to consider ourselves to be smarter than
the Alphas, or at least to be more willing to use our intellect rather than
hide it just to fit in with the other Alphas.

>>Did I switch alpha and delta humans around?  It sounds more flattering to
>>be 'Alpha' than 'Delta.'  Sadly maybe that is the point.

>most of us consider ourselves deltas...but not all...

I didn't mean that I want to BE and Alpha.  I just meant that the
world 'Alpha' is somehow more flattering outside of its definition
because of its association with firstness.  So it is strange for we,
the definers of our own terminology, to describe ourselves with the
more diminutive world.  But like I said above, I guess that is the point.

>anyway,
>bah.

Did you ever notice that 'bah' spelled backwards is 'hab' ?