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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:56:22 EDT
Reply-To:     L Irakliotis <IRAKLIOT@MIAMIU.BITNET>
From:         L Irakliotis <IRAKLIOT@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Subject:      THS AGAPHS AIMATA

       THS AGAPHS aimata  *  me porfyrwsan
     Kai xares aneidwtes  *  me skiasane
      Ojeidwuhka mes sth  *  notia
                          *  twn anurwpwn
          Makrinh Mhtera  * Rodo moy Amaranto

 St' anoixta toy pelagoy  *  me karteresan
Me mpompardes trikatares  *  kai moy rijane
      Amartia moy na' xa  *  ki egw
                          *  mian agaph
          Makrinh Mhtera  *  Rodo moy Amaranto

       Ton Ioylio kapote  *  misanoijane
     Ta megala matia ths  *  mes sta splaxna moy
     Thn paruena zwh mia  *  stigmh
                          *  na fwtisoyn
          Makrinh Mhtera  *  Rodo moy Amaranto

     Ki apo tote gyrisan  *  katapanw moy
      Twn aiwnwn orghtes  *  jefwnizontas
<< O poy s'eide sto aima  *  na zei
                          *  kai sthn petra>>
          Makrinh Mhtera  *  Rodo moy Amaranto

   Ths patridas moy pali  *  omoiwuhka
  Mes stis petres anuisa  *  kai megalwsa
    Twn foniadwn to aima  *  me fws
                          *  jeplhrwnw
          Makrinh Mhtera  *  Rodo moy Amaranto

[Odysseas Elyths, To Ajion Esti, Ta Pauh, i']
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Reply-To:     student <ec0102@POWHATAN.CC.CNC.EDU>
From:         student <ec0102@POWHATAN.CC.CNC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Stis ammoydies toy Omhroy
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Kai mia pou o Leonidas anefere tis ammoudies you Omirou, thumithika ki egw oti
sas xrwstaw ti sunexeia twn omirikwn epwn. Parte loipon:

Prwi p' arxizouv va gamouv tis kotes ta kokoria
ap' tnv Aulida fygave saravtadyo baporia:
O pswlaras Mevelaos ki' o megas Axilleas
o Odusseus ki' o Patroklos, o poustns tns pareas.
Mprosta sta teixn stathnkav tsampoukalndes oloi
kai mataia prospathousave va parouve tnv poln...
Sta gurw ta perixwra mouvi dev eixe meivei
ki' olos o kosmos gevika mpourdelo eixe givei.
Ki' agamnto petuxave mouvi va mnv afnsouv
tnv poln dev kataferav omws va tnv patnsouv.

Mpros ap' to kastro to psnlo, me ta megala teixn
kathovt' oi Ellnves boyboi, kai blastnmoyv tnv tyxn.
Ws ki' o pavourgos Odusseus exei ki' autos sastisei
kai tous theous parakala va dwsouv kapoia lusn.
"Ax Odussea", elege, "eisai megalos blakas
poios tou' pe tou Mevelaou va gevnthn malakas;
Tov Parn afnse va 'rthei va tove keratwsei
kai stns Elevns to mouvi tov poutso tou va xwsei;
Kai 'gw ti ftaiw gia ol' ayta, va xasw tnv kaln moy,
kai deka xrovia va trabw stnv Troia to poyli moy;"

Ayta kai alla elege, kei poy 'tav ksaplwmevos
kai xaithebe tov poutso tou, pou' tave snkwmevos.
Ta malliara t' arxidia tou kremovtousav me xarn
kai tote va' sou n Athnva m'aspida kai kovtari...
- -W polumnxave Odusseu, ap' t' ouravou ta upsn
sto patriko to spiti sou se koitaza me thlipsn...
Tns Pnvelopns to mouvi to gamages me lussa
ki' aoratn erxomouva kai sou' glufa ta xusia.
Gi' auto sou divw mustiko tnv Troia va patnseis
ma prepei sav avtalagma kai su va me gamiseis.

O Odusseas skeftnke mavaxa wra lign
kai eide pws aduvato ntav va t' apofugei.
Tns bazei mia triklopodia kai tnv peta sto xwma
apo tnv kabla tnv polln tha tnv gamaei akoma!
H Athnva esparaze sav kota soublismevn
ma olo kai tov esprwxve gorga va mpaivobgaivei.
Pavw stnv kabla o Odysseus skeftetai tnv douleia,
ki' euthus pavw snkwvetai kai leei stnv Athnva:
- -Mwrn poutava sto' kava kai touto to xatiri!
To mustiko sou grngora kai pngaive sixtiri!
Ki' autn pavw stnv kabla tns sto erwtiko methusi
to mustiko tou edwse tnv Troia va patnsei...


Ti tha ginei arage sti sunexeia? Stay tuned...
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 14:48:45 -0400
Reply-To:     Vartan Narinian <vsn@CC.IC.AC.UK>
From:         Vartan Narinian <vsn@CC.IC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Anekdoto

        A guy goes into a bar and calls his friends around him...
"C'mere," he says.  "I got something to show you guys."  He then proceeds to
take a toy piano out from his backpack.
        "Oh boy," they say.  "A toy piano...(sarcasm)"
        "Well watch this!"  He then takes out a little tiny man who sits down
and begins to play the piano.
        "Holy Shit!" They exclaim.  "Where'd you get that?!?"

        "Well, I was walking through the forest and saw this Leprechaun,
so I grabbed it, and it said that I could have anything that I wished for!"
        "So you asked for a little guy who can play the piano?!" his friends
wonder.
        "No... I guess the Leprechaun was a little hard of hearing... he
thought I asked for a ten-inch pianist!"

====

Vartan
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 03:06:51 EDT
Reply-To:     Tseligas koumparos <LPETROPO@SBCCVM.BITNET>
From:         Tseligas koumparos <LPETROPO@SBCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      DiCi, Paris, Amsterdam, GLYFADA!!!

Rio De Janeiro, L.A., Rome, Moscow...... Mas pe0avave sta proposals oi
poust****. Pwpw re Niko ti mou ekaves, twra oloi 0elouv va ferouv to
ouzeri stnv poln tous. Mexri kai o Dnmarxos tns Glyfadas kurios Spondnlidns
(pou tou ektrefw megaln sumpa0eia ap'otav nmouv proedros 15melous(( ama tov
 dw sto dromo me t'ama3i mou 0a tov patnsw tov Mpi**, sugvwmn kurio n0ela va
 pw)) to 84,85) 0elei leei va agorasei ola ta rights tou magaziou. Re 0a sas
steilw tov Karakoln kai 0a sas piei to aima (va deis pws to eipe..) me tnv
mpouroswliva tns sompas. Epavw tou Karakoln mou mnv afiseis kavevav, pave va
mas kleisouve to magazi re megale!

P.S. Eva guro akomn ouza gia tous 3evuxtndes.

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:46:13 PDT
Reply-To:     Perikles Konstantinides <perkon%aludra.usc.edu@USC.EDU>
From:         Perikles Konstantinides <perkon%aludra.usc.edu@USC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Geia sas
Comments: To: ZZDFA%BKLYN.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Comments: cc: hellas@uga.cc.uga.edu

> Hi guys!!  Eipa as steillw kai egw eva mail stnv lista mia kai brnka
> wra.

         Kai ti thn perases thn lista; Kommwthrio;

>  Afou dev givetai kai tipota spoudaio edw pavw stnv Nea Iorkn,
> (ektos ta 1-day sales fusika (:  Ta pnra bolta ola....)

         Mhn mas peis ti agorases... Kammia koudounistra phres;

> 0a n0ela va
> pw eva idiaitero 'Geia Sou' stous Mploum, Frifriko, Fotougko, kai stov
                                    ******  ********  ********
> Giorgo tov Pooh (:   0a epistrepsw argotera me tragoudia!
  ***************
>             Auta gia twra, Despoiva Sideratou

          Kala, milame oti o Karakolhs, opou ki an brisketai, tha tribei
      ta roziasmena (apo to tzatziki kai ta tacos...) xeria tou....

PFK
Southern Cal .............. mia erwthsh: o ... Frifrikos exei kammia sxesh
                            me ton Mordorako; O ... Giorgos o Pooh;

Thou Kurie....
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 12:29:30 EDT
Reply-To:     Sabrina Rousaki <rousaki@REMUS.RUTGERS.EDU>
From:         Sabrina Rousaki <rousaki@REMUS.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Nai sta parties.
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

Kapoy me parekshghsate nomizw... Egw thn Ellada thn agapw, alla
ayto den shmainei oti misw thn Amerikh!! Oyte prospathw na peisw
ton eayto moy oti kanw katanagkastika erga poy eimai edw ("gia
to kalo moy"). Nai, phgainw se Frat parties and I always have a
good time!! Kai mhn moy lete "emeis eimaste graduate students kai
eimaste sobaroi kai eksypnoi", extes molis legate gia mhxanes kai
kontres kai strofes kai mpatsoys klp. Nomizw to na pas se ena bar
n se ena party einai pio ... ygeiino apo to na trexeis me mhxanes!!
Anyway, oi Amerikanoi den einai katwtera onta pws pisteyete eseis oi
"sobaroi graduate students", sas enoxloyn ta ratsistika anekdota
alla kata ta alla apofeygete ta paidia apo thn Amerikn epeidh
den einai ... eksypna!!!

Stay cool!
Sabrina.
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:02:00 EDT
Reply-To:     "(Panagiotis Menoudakis)" <menoudak@MACCS.DCSS.MCMASTER.CA>
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From:         "(Panagiotis Menoudakis)" <menoudak@MACCS.DCSS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      ETSI GAMAEI O PEIRAIAS (PAO-THRYLOS teliko)

To megalo paixnidi elikse prin ligo otan to foteino tablo kai h istoria egrafan

             P A O - O S F P      1  -  1

Opos oloi tha kseroyn to proto paixnidi eixe lhksei 0-0 , kati poy stelnei to
thrylo sta hmitelika kai tis bazeles spitia toys. Bebaia h prokrish htan ligo
os poly anamenomenh alla o tropos poy epiteuxthike tha ponaei gia polla xronia.
Sygkekrimena o PAO prohghthike sto 62 me penalty poy ektelese o Sarabalakos (o
mikros me thn asprh xaith). O Thrylos eixe thn apolyth yperoxh sto ypoloipo
toy agona kai pieze asfyktika gia thn isofarish. Mia isofarish poy pros megalo
pono ton apantaxoy bazelon hrthe sto 90 me penalty poy ektelese o Protasof gia
na ksekinhsei etsi mia akoma giorth ligo argotera kai mexri tora sto Pasali-
mani (o topos exei parei fotia ekei kato kai meis kathomaste sa malakes mpro-
sta apo to koloterminal).
Opos ikatalabainete oi bazeles odhrontan ston ( ap'oti plhroforhthika panathi-
naikon aisthimaton ) diaithth gia to penalty, afoy os synhthos yposthriksan
oti adikhthikan giati ta penalties einai apokleistiko toys pronomio, kai giati
afoy o olumpiakos pieze to paixnidi eprepe na lhksei sto 85. Kserete more, opos
persy poy pathse o Sarabakos to patini pali sthn perioxh kai xtypiontoysan ena
mhna.
Alla as mhn asxoloymaste allo me ta htthmena plithi, arketos o ponos toys. Ante
kai me to double sto Peraia. Kali mera se oloys, kai eidika stoys pistoys toy
THRYLOY poy mporoyn gia allh mia fora perhfana na fonaksoyn :

	E T S I  G A M A E I  O  P E I R A I A S

					TTG
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Subject:      Samatas o Samaras, part II .

Staring : Antony Samaras
          Dean Mitsotakis

Also staring : Andrew Papandrew.
               Junis Matzounis.

Guest stars  : Oloi oi ypoloipoi politikoi.
Skhnh 1h . Eisagwgh :
O Dean  paei na parei to ypoyrgeio Exwterikwn. Exw apo to ypoyrgeio einai
mazemenos kosmos poy blepei ton Dean kai fwnazei : "Antony, Antony".


H prwth agria kontra metaxy Antony & Dean einai gegonos :

Antony : " Moy eipate mr prothypoyrge oti kathenas grafei thn istoria toy. Kai
eimaste se ayto akribws to shmeio. Kai egw poy geygw kai eseis poy erxeste".

To prosopiko toy ypoyrgeioy pagwnei kai meta apo ligo o Dean pernaei sthn ante
pithesh.

Dean : " Pisteyw oti eprepe na gine ayth h allagh gia na mporesei to aithma toy
Ellhnikoy laoy, poy to exefrase h apofash twn Deinosayrwn, e sygnwmh, twn
politikwn arxhgwn ypo thn proedria toy Theoy na brei thn kalyterh dynath yposth
riksh kai na odhghthei sto kalytero dynaton apotelesma".

( allo plano - O tzoynis matzoynis koynaei to kefali toy me shmasia skeptomenos
" oti kai na peis esy, egw tha kanw koymanto edw se ligo".)

Skhnh 2. O Antrew dinei thn 1000 apokleistikh synenteyksh :
Andrew : " Den htan oikoymenikh h apopomph toy Antony. "
Gyrnaei dexia, blepei mia foto toy Dean kai leei me misos " Ekloges edw kai
twra, palio...". Thymatai oti dinei synenteyksh kai synexizei "...file".
Pairnei ena yfos gemato eirwneia kai misos kai leei : "Oi theseis toy k. Samara
SYMPIPTOYN me tis dikes mas dioti den prepei na empaizoyme to lao " stelnontas
mynhma symparastashs ston Antony kai stelnontas sto diaolo ton Dean.

Skhnh 3h. Den exei ! Einai akatallhlo gia anhlikoys kai h mama moy den me
afhnei na sas perigrapsw ton psyxiko kosmo toy Dean. Telos pantwn, egw paw
na dw ligh Vina Barba kai ta xanaleme..

{
  Lazaros A. Sechidis
  Aristotles University of Thessaloniki, Makedonia,Greece

  E-mail addresses  :
                      GCAZ0501@Grtheun1.bitnet
                      2:410/1.9         fidonet
          bitnet/internet to fidonet ->
                      Lazaros.Sechidis@p9.f1.n410.z2.fidonet.org
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Reply-To:     student <ec0102@POWHATAN.CC.CNC.EDU>
From:         student <ec0102@POWHATAN.CC.CNC.EDU>
Subject:      Iliadas sunexeia (teleutaio)
Comments: To: HELLAS@brownvm.brown.edu

Kat' apaitisi tou Baggeli tou asuntonistou (ta lew swsta Baggeli?) kai to
upoloipo tis Iliadas ligo prin tin wra tou (tha ksanastalei kai gia tous
prwinous).



Kai ftiaksav alogo kalo, upsos triavta metra
gemato apo sidero, gemato ki apo petra.
Mes' stou alogou tnv koilia kruftnkave m' elpida
kai kobave tnv kivnsn ap' tnv kwlotrupida.
All' epeidn dev xwragav s' ev' alogo olo ki olo
o evas eixe tnv pswln stou allouvou tov kwlo.

Oi Trwes pou sto bathos tous malakes htav oloi
paizave me t' arxidia tous sta teixn kai stnv poln.
"O polemos teleiwse!", skeftovtai ta xamouria
ki' amesws tote rixvovtai sto pndnma me fouria.
Pnrav ta strwmata fwtia ap' to polu gamisi
toso pou dev prolabaive to xusi va ta sbnsei...

Kai tote, mes' ap' tn vuxtia kai t' araxvo skotadi
bgaivouve apo t' alogo Axaioi sa va' tav ap' tov adn.
Mesa stnv poln xuvovtai sav Kerberoi barbatoi
ki' opoia guvaika n avtra brouv tov rixvouv sto krebati.
O Parns tote fwvaze mes sto megalo salo:
"Afou tnv glutwsa mikro, as gamnthw megalo!".
Mataia fwvaze o Odusseus va tous skotwsouv olous
oi Axaioi akratntoi tous kseskizav tous kwlous.
ki' o Odusseus katalabe pws gia va pesei n Troia
prwta va pesouv eprepe kai ta dika tou tria!



Sto epomeno: i Odusseia.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 09:15:00 EDT
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From:         "(Panagiotis Menoudakis)" <menoudak@MACCS.DCSS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      RE:THRYLOS

Re paidia grafte toy mia apanthsh enas toy malaka poy den kserei ti grafei,
giati ayrigrafo final exam . To mono poy exo na toy po gia tora einai
oti apodeiknyei gia allh mia fora oti sthn Ellada yparxoyn mono dyo hdh
filathlon :

	Olympiakoi    kai    Antiolympiakoi

Tora to poios einai apo pano de thelei filosofia. Arthriste mono ta protathlima-

ta kai ta kypella se ola ta sports kai sygkrinete ta me opoiasdhpote allhs o-
madas kai tote tha katalabete.
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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1992 01:57:33 EDT
Reply-To:     "Stratos Safioleas" <MG543C@GWUVM.GWU.EDU>
From:         "Stratos Safioleas" <MG543C@GWUVM.GWU.EDU>
Subject:      Kai alloi 3evuxtndes...
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

Geia kai xara kai apo DiCi,

Eipame edw ormn3e n Avoi3n kai ta tsakise ola.
Parelaseis gia to Cherry Blossom eixame,
kai zestn, piasame tous 80F.
Ta mparakia plai stov Potomac, sto Georgetown Harbour
gemata trapezakia e3w, kai polus laos pera dw0e
stnv problnta.

Avte sas xairetw kai kouragio
kammia eikosaria meres gia va fugei eva
akoma e3amnvo

Stratos kai Kurstratos
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:24:37 -0400
Reply-To:     "Spiros V. Branis" <phssvb@UNIX.CC.EMORY.EDU>
From:         "Spiros V. Branis" <phssvb@UNIX.CC.EMORY.EDU>
Subject:      NEROYLADES
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

Grafei o Periklns.... gia poion allo, ton Malta...

>>>>>>
 Lathos megisto, mourgo twn sokakiwn ths Baltimorhs: oi treis
   proanafer0entes gentlemen den einai trompes, NEROYLADES einai. Me
   eidikothta sthn enapo0esh fortiwn sielou sthn spanh kefalh sou...
<<<<<<

XI XI XI..... Kalnmera Baltimorn......
Mas eleipses Malta, esu kai o vathustaxastos filosofikos enoramatismos sou...
Mas eleipsan oi thewries sou peri apokalupsews kai peri tou eperxomenou
planntikou katapontismou apo tis dunameis tis plerias strouktouras.....-))))

Enas Maltas tin nmera ton giatro ton kanei pera...
kai sunistatai anepifulakta; kaluteros KAI apo tis polu-vitamines MAXI-VIT...
Ton sunistoun oi Neroulades tou Hellas.....


Spiros
Ydroxoos kai ta muala stous katarraktes tou Niagara.......
[Etsi den einai kuria Ktena??!!..-))) ]
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From:         Panagiotis Lolonis <lolonis@UMAXC.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>
Subject: VOH0EIA. Ellhnikes ekfraseis pou legontai se epishma
              deipna/proposeis?

O proedros tou edw Panepisthmiou, pou kata symptwsh exeidikeuetai se
Arxaia Ellhnikh istoria, 0elei na ma0ei mia Ellhnikh ekfrash pou
legetai se proposeis.  O logos einai oti enas Ellhnas exei kanei mia
dwrea merikwn ekatomuriwn dol. sto Panepisthmio kai o Proedros 0elei
na ton ekplhxei.  0elei loipon na teleiwsei thn proposh tou me mia
Ellhnikh ekfrash pou suni0izetai s' autes tis periptwseis.

0a parakalousa 0erma osous xeroun tetoies ekfraseis (estw kai poly
koines) na mou tis steilloun.  An mazeutoun arketes 0a tis kanw
posting sthn Hellas.  To e-mail mou einai:

                   lolonis@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu

Euxaristw ek twn proterwn.

Panos Lolonis, U. of Iowa
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 08:52:36 EDT
Reply-To:     L Irakliotis <IRAKLIOT@MIAMIU.BITNET>
From:         L Irakliotis <IRAKLIOT@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ELLHNIKH PAIDEIA - KAPOIES SKECEIS
Comments: To: "Ioannis C. Dimakos" <JDIMAKOS@SUVM.BITNET>

On Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:11:40 EDT Ioannis C. Dimakos said:
>
>2) Sto nomo problepontai opvs svsta yposthrije kai o Levnidas kai
> seminaria katartishs gia toys neodiorisuentes, ta opoia den energopoihuhkan
> pote giati oi PASK Daskalvn kai h aristera ta baftisan deytero ptyxio poy
> kobei to dromo sto diorismo kai provuei toys kalyteroys kai oxi oloys (!!!).

Ayto exei na  kanei apokleistika kai mono me to  pWs antilambanontai oi
Neoellhns thn  ennoia twn  iswn eykairiwn.  An p.x.  esy ki  egw Giannh
exoyme teleiwsei to idio tmhma ths idias sxolhs toy idioy panepisthmioy
thn idia mera alla esy exeis ena 9 sto ptyxio soy ki egw ena 5 alla egw
parw ariumo prin apo sena, diorizomai  prin apo sena. Fysika kaneis den
problhmatisthke mexri shmera na staumisei ta prosonta twn apofoitwn kai
na douoyn ises eykairies s'osoys exoyn ta idia prosonta.

Parapera,  h epimorfwsh  poy anafereis  parapanw einai  kati aparaithto
eidika  gia  ta  ellhnika  dedomena opoy  h  panepisthmiakh  ekpaideysh
sygkentrwnetai aysthra  sto akadhma.i.ko antikeimeno toy  tmhmatos soy.
Tessera xronia sta Iwannina de  uymamai na eixame sto programma spoydwn
kapoio  mauhma ektos  Fysikoy. Apo  didaktikes texnikes  mhden. Exw  ta
prosonta  na  didajw  ypeyuyna;  Oxi.  Mono  epeita  apo  thn  elaxisth
empeiria  poy apekthsa  edw arxisa  na antilambanomai  merika shmantika
pragmata sth  didaktikh ths  Fysikhs. Sthn prokeimenh  periptwsh loipon
den ua  eblapte an akoloyuoysame  toys amerikanoys kai to  systhma toys
toy "teaching certification".  H Aristera mporei na leei  o,ti uelei ki
edw poy ta  leme arketa akoysame apo th meria  ayth.

Filika                         * Epishmos Rempetologos ths HELLAS
Leonidas                       * Proedros Syllogoy Jenyxthdwn
Miami OH Physics               * kai deka mikroi kardinallioi
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:11:40 EDT
Reply-To:     KOSTAS GIAVIS <KOGIA@VTVM1.BITNET>
From:         KOSTAS GIAVIS <KOGIA@VTVM1.BITNET>

0A HUELA NA SYMPERILABW KAI TON EAYTO MOY STO EYRYTERO OLYMPIAKO
FASMA THS LISTAS.   53+1=54 LOIPON.

KOSTAS GIAVIS         VIRGINIA TECH
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:18:27 CDT
Reply-To:     Vangelis Kobotis <lkasa@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
From:         Vangelis Kobotis <lkasa@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      den boroume na milame gia ekpaideutika sistimata an den....
Comments: To: hellas@uga.cc.uga.edu

Geia sas filoi,
               parakoloutho me endiaferon ti sizitisi gia tin Elliniki
ekpaideusi kai tis sigriseis me tis alles hores.Kata ti gnomi mou ena ap
ta vasika simeia sta opoia ponaei i paideia simera stin Ellada einai i
ilikotehniki ipodomi kai eidikotera oi sinthikews kato ap tis opoies ginetai
to mathima.As min xehname oti gia paradeigma ta sholeia tis Athinas leitourgoun
proi  - apogeuma se athlia en genei ktiria gia na mi milisoume gia tin elleipsi
vivliothikon,gimnastirion,horon anpsihis klp...
   Sti dekaetia tou 60 zitousan 15% gia tin paideia.Simera ti meros tou
 proupologismou paei stin paideia.Kapote tha prepei na to paroume apofasi kai na
 dimiour-
gisoume kai stin Ellada anthropines sinthikes.Mipos i persini antidrasi ton
mathiton deihnei oti varethikan pia auta pou tous servirontai?Einai eukolo na
leei kaneis logia gia monterna ekpaideutika programmata alla anarotietai to kata
poso einai ilopoiisima me tis iparhouses sinthikes.Ligo poli oi idies sinthikes
epikratoun kai sta AEI.Etuhe pote n akousete gia ta AP-VAP i tin AFE sta Ilisia?
Etuhe na perasete exo ap to Fisikeio i akomi heirotera apo mesa?Den amfivallo
oti oi perissoteroi gnorizete ta meri pou anafero.
    Ki as min pistepsoume oti ta panta einai adinata stin hora mas.Ola ginontai
me ligi kali thelisi.Arkei vevaia na valoume kapoies proteraiotites.Den leo
na proothisoume ton athlitismo mas alla tis fieste kai tous Olimpiakous gia
paradeigma ti ta theloume.Ola tahe i Mariori o ferentzes tis elleipe.Oi
 aprosopes megaloupoleis hreiazontai anthropinous horous ki an mi ti allo
 tetoioi prepei
na einai ta sholeia kai ta panepistimia.Autoi omos pou kratane tis tuhes tou
topou mas sta heria mas ehoun to diko tous tropo na linoun tetoia provlimata.
Polloi ap autous sinitheitopoioun tin athlia katastasi tis paideias kai stelnoun
ta paidia tous se kollegia i se panepistimia tou exoterikou.Den xero ,ego auto
to vrisko proklisi sto koino aisthima.M alla logia i valitsa paei poli makria...
   Mallon tha stamatiso edo.Sas kalinihtizo kai perimeno sholia antirriseis k.lp
 Geia hara
Vangelis - Chicago
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