From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: Intellectually Challenging moments in Modern history
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:32:55 GMT
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In <1992Jul28.205701.24031@ncsu.edu> dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu writes:

> In article <1992Jul28.194004.4243@wuecl.wustl.edu> 
> dgp@atlas.wustl.edu (Don Porter) writes:
> 
> ><Bs2qsv.1y0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> (Tim Buckley) writes:
> 
> >> If Clinton was not for abortion on demand what do you think his chances of
> >> winning would have been?  My guess is that if both major parties had
> >> platforms similar to the Republicans then a third party would have been
> >> formed.  But this is just speculation on my part.
> 
> > This is something I find very strange.  The Democratic platform
> > is easily the more moderate of the two.  It supports abortion
> > rights as understood under RvW, allowing certain restrictions.
> > Not nearly as extreme as an abortion rights plank could get.
> 
> I disagree, I think the Democratic platform of "abortion on demand"
> is a very extreme position. Polls consistently show that only a minority 
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> of the population supports "abortion on demand", and many people have
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  I suppose it depends on how you define it.  Most polls I see show
an approx 60% for "choice".

> been deceived into thinking that Roe v. Wade is not "abortion on 
> demand". The restrictions you mention do not prevent women from
> obtaining elective abortions all the way up to the point of birth.

  Just some technical clarification here.  Roe prevents states from
regulating abortions prior to the second trimester.  In and of itself,
it restricts nothing but just that.  Post first-trimester, and definetely
post-second, any restrictions are up to the individual states.  Overturning
Roe would "merely" extend state regulatory ability into the first trimester.
I am unaware of what, if any, restrictions on abortion the Demo platform
acknowledges beyond accepting Roe as is.  Roe allows state restriction after
a certain point, but does not require it.

  From a practical standpoint, Doug, accepting Roe does indeed allow for the
restriction of abortion--after a certain point in fetal development.  Is
there any state which allows unrestricted abortion well into the 3rd trimester
for reasons other than protecting the life of the woman?

> >|   Don Porter | dgp@saturn.wustl.edu |
> 
> Doug Holtsinger
> 

semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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