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From:         friedman@LIBRARY.SDSU.EDU
Subject:      SEC Online vs. Q-File
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To business librarians --

Another forwarded message from my colleague at the University of San Diego.
Please treat him well.

Catherine Friedman
BRASS Chair & Business Reference Librarian
Head, General Reference Division
University Library
San Diego State University
San Diego, CA  92182-0511
friedman@library.sdsu.edu

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From: THARVELL%ACUSD.BITNET@Kentvm.Kent.edu
Subject:      comparison of Silver Platter/SEC and Q-Data files
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Please post on LIBREF-L if appropriate:
Our library is considering subscribing to Silver Platter's SEC Online
CD-ROM data base and substituting it for the Q-Data fiche we have received
for many years.  I have had trouble getting a straight answer from Silver
Platter about the timeliness of the data in the CD-ROM's.  Have other
libraries
considered this substitution, and what are your impressions so far?  Please
reply directly to me:  Tony Harvell, Head of Reference THARVELL@ACUSD (bitnet)
or THARVELL@USDCSV.ACUSD.EDU (Internet)  Thank you.   Tony Harvell, University
of San Diego Library
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From:         Thomas Krichel <euectk@UTS.MCC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: UK company sources
              24, 92 11:48 am

 WEZ at PSUVM.BITNET writes:

> I used an online source called "Datastream" in the UK, but not very well.  It
> is a comlpex, but extensive set of databases.  Also, it seems to me that the
> *Financial Times* should be providing this data in some manner.  Is here any
> further info. on either of these ideas?  WEZ at PSUVM.BITNET

  Datastream has a good coverage of UK data, but it is clumpsy to
  use and expensive. The NY helpline is Tel (212) 306 69 00,
  Fax: (212) 306 69 99.

  Here are three further clues:

  The ESRC data archive based at the University of Essex may have
  a database available. I think their address is archive@essex.ac.uk.

  There is also the London share price database. That is maintained
  by the London Business School.

  Two machines in the UK maintain the EXSTAT company accounts for
  use (free of charge I think) for the academic community in
  the Kingdom. These are Manchester and Bath.
  The person in charge at Manchester is K.Cole@cms.mcc.ac.uk.
  He might be willing to give further advice.

  I realise that this info is very vague, but I hope that it
  is useful nevertheless.

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From:         "Leslie M. Haas" <LHAAS@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Community Outreach

My boss has asked me to come up with some ideas for workshops for the
business community in the area.  Various departments in the University
will be participating, along with the Library.  I have come up with some
basic workshops: 1. How to do Company Research and 2. Investment Tools
in the Library.  I was wondering if anyone is involved in this kind of
effort and what kinds of clientele we can expect.  Also, are these two
workshops appropriate for the corporate community or should I look at
developing a different kind of workshop?

Leslie Haas
Business Reference Librarian
Kent State University
lhaas@kentvm
(216)672-3045
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:20:35 EST
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From:         Paul <PPHILBIN@UVMVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DowJones via Internet
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On Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:27:22 -0700 Suzanne Sweeney said:
>I'm not sure if I should answer this question yet.  We are still in testing.
>We plan to offer the service through our new Novell/Optinet CD-ROM/TCPIP/Modem/
>Network.  Everything is still in test... it works sometimes.  We have used
>Kermit & Samson for the connection.  There has been talk of using ProComm
>also... I'll keep everyone posted.
>
>We are encouraging faculty to access DJNR through Samson or MacSamson, since
>that seems to work well and log files are easy to create.
>Some other packages that are used here don't always work.
>
FRom Paul Philbin (Univ. of Vermont) Dow Jones thru Internet works just fine.
Been doing it since they announced it.  We plan to provide access thru our
Novell Server with an authentication database to block undesirables to satisfy
DJNRS contractual commitments.  We'll plan to throw up 2 passwords for over
30 machines in the library plus any users on campus on the network will be
be able to connect if they can get to the server.  The key component in our
mind was the creation of an authentication database to satisfy the contract
clause allowing only institution affiliated individual to connect to the
service.  We plan to do the same with Nexis/Lexis.  Paul
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Subscribe bit.listserv.buslib-l Vladimir Slamecka cc.gatech.edu
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:24:57 EDT
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From:         Todd Yeager <TMY@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Dow Jones News/Retrieval Access

Dear Colleagues,

We've been informed by Dow Jones that we must begin accessing their services
via the Internet rather than through Tymnet or Telenet as we have in the past.
If we don't make this switch we will be billed at a higher rate.

Our biggest concern is for our library users.  With access through Tymnet or
Telenet our users were able to connect easily through a pc in the Reference
Department.  Commands and scrolling through screens were straightforward.
We are looking for ways to connect to DJNR through the Internet that is as
straightforward as possible (i.e., "easy" terminal emulations, locked access
to DJNR, etc.).

Dow Jones is very popular here and heavily used by students and faculty,
especially during regular semesters.  We wish to continue allowing
access to authorized users with as little librarian intervention as
possible.

Does anyone have experience with allowing access to Dow Jones through a
public terminal through Internet?  What kinds of software did you use?
Did your setup require a lot of local programming? What worked well?
What didn't?

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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Todd M. Yeager                         West Virginia University Libraries
Coordinator, Interlibrary Loan         Morgantown, WV 26506-6069
Internet:  tmy@wvnvm.wvnet.edu         304-293-3640
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 09:59:09 -0700
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From:         friedman@LIBRARY.SDSU.EDU
Subject:      Lotus OneSource Question
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	This question seems to be more appropriate for BUSLIB-L than LIBREF-L.  Maybe
we can help with this question.



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----------------------------Original message----------------------------

Could you post the following on LIBREF-L if appropriate?
Our library is currently subscribing to LOTUS OneSource Corporate and
LOTUS OneSource Investment Databases.  We are not sure the price justifies
the kind of use it receives from our students and faculty.  Are there other
libraries who currently subscribe?  Are there compelling reasons you keep
it rather than some of the less expensive alternatives?  Please reply to
me directly.  Tony Harvell, Head of Reference, University of San Diego
bitnet THARVELL@ACUSD internet THARVELL@USDCSV.ACUSD.EDU    THANKS!
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:17:01 -0700
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From:         Suzanne Sweeney <SSWEENEY@GSB-PESO.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject:      Timestamped UK Company information
X-To:         buslib-l@idbsu.idbsu.edu

I am looking for time-stamped UK company information for some researchers.
We have looked at data available via Dialog, Lexis/Nexis, Dow Jones News
Retreival, but have yet to find good, full coverage that includes a time
of day information was released stamp.  Any suggestions for other sources??
Also is any one familiar with the UK "Companies announcements office."

Thanks for any guidance!!!

Suzanne Sweeney
Jackson Library, Graduate School of Business
Stanford University
Stanford, California  94305-5016
415-715-2005  FAX 415/723-0281
ssweeney@gsb-peso.stanford.edu
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Subject:      Mial
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 11:44:22 EDT
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From:         Carl Braun <LIBCFB@SUVM.BITNET>
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I cannot speak to the Minnesota Spacenet, but if you are looking for
NASA news and files, try telneting or ftping to fedix.fie.com.  The
system if very forgiving.  If you "forget" your account, you can type
in "prior" and look and download all you want.

Carl Braun
LIBCFB@SUVM
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From:         Neal Dalton <nrd@REDWOOD.CRAY.COM>
Subject:      Re: Economic Bulletin Board
X-To:         BUSLIB-L%IDBSU.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU
              92 9:03 am

Keith Morgan writes:
>
> Regarding the EBB on the Internet, I add an enthusiastic
> recommendation; however, the instructions Eloisa forwards seem contain one
> glitch and one ommission.
>
> >At the "Which Host?" prompt, type "um-ulibrary" with the quotes.

In the first note on EBB, it was mention that this is a Gopher sever.
Gopher is a document search and retrieval utility.  It is a lot easier
than ftp.  It also can work in a client server mode or remote mode on
via a semi-dumb terminal.  the local client is a more customized and
easier to use version and is easier on the Net.  If there is enough
interest in clients, I could look up the location of these and forward
it on.


To use the gopher program without a local client telnet to
una.hh.lib.umich.edu (telnet una.hh.lib.umich.edu) and login as
"gopher".  After that is is fairly easy to use.

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From:         Suzanne Sweeney <SSWEENEY@GSB-PESO.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject:      DowJones via Internet
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I'm not sure if I should answer this question yet.  We are still in testing.
We plan to offer the service through our new Novell/Optinet CD-ROM/TCPIP/Modem/
Network.  Everything is still in test... it works sometimes.  We have used
Kermit & Samson for the connection.  There has been talk of using ProComm
also... I'll keep everyone posted.

We are encouraging faculty to access DJNR through Samson or MacSamson, since
that seems to work well and log files are easy to create.
Some other packages that are used here don't always work.

Suzanne Sweeney
Jackson Library Graduate School of Business
Stanford University
ssweeney@gsb-peso.stanford.edu
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From:         DMARTIN 335-3077 <CADDMLTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Dow Jones News/Retrieval Access
X-To:         Todd Yeager <TMY@WVNVM.BITNET>

I assume there are probably lots of people (myself included) who
are interested in responses to your query.  I would also like
to hear from anyone out there who is providing access to Lexis/
Nexis via the Internet.

Dave Martin
Univ of Iowa Business Library
j-martin@uiowa.edu
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From:         "Leslie M. Haas" <LHAAS@KENTVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Workshop Help

I just wanted to thank everyone for their advice on the workshop I gave
recently.  The suggestions I received helped tremendously.  The
librarians I had in my group (30) left the workshop feeling less intimidated
by the sources.   The biggest aid in this was assigning groups to investigate
a company and recommend (or not) the stock for investment.  This activity
got them into all the business resources.  Once they got into it everyone said
they had a lot of fun.

Once again, thanks for your help!

Leslie Haas
Business Reference Librarian
Kent State University
lhaas@kentvm
(216)672-3045
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:42:00 EST
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From:         "Hope N. Tillman" <TILLMAN@BABSON.BITNET>
Subject:      Position opening: Library/IRM Instructional Services Librarian

This announcement is being cross-posted on BUSLIB-L and BI-l. Please
excuse the duplication.


                INSTRUCTIONAL SERVICES LIBRARIAN
                        BABSON COLLEGE

Babson College Library is seeking an individual to direct
library instruction and orientation programs and coordinate
development and delivery of information resources management
instruction program with Computer User Services.  Specific
responsibilities include:  providing reference service, library
instruction, participating in collection development activities,
serving as liaison to faculty department(s), recommending
policies and procedures, and compiling and revising user
documentation, research guides, and other instructional
materials.

Qualified candidates will have MLS from an ALA accredited library
school, and 3-5 years academic library experience with emphasis
on library instruction of both print and computerized resources.
Knowledge of business information sources is needed.  This
position requires excellent verbal, written, and analytical
skills, and the ability to work with many different
constituencies.  Weekend and evening hours are necessary.

Founded in 1919, the College offers bachelor's and master's
degree programs in business management.  There are approximately
1,500 undergraduates, and 240 full-time and 1,400 part-time MBA
candidates, and a growing number of people who come to Babson for
executive and advanced professional courses.  The College is
located 14 miles west of Boston on a 450-acre wooded campus in
Wellesley, Massachusetts.

Interested candidates please send two copies of cover letter and
resume with names of three references to Susan A. Roskey, Office
of Human Resources and Affirmative Action, Babson College, Babson
Park, MA 02157.  Review of applications will begin August 15,
1992.  Applications will be accepted until positon is filled.

    BABSON COLLEGE IS AN EQUAL OPPORTUNITY/AFFIRMATIVE ACTION
                            EMPLOYER
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From:         PAGELL@WILMA.WHARTON.UPENN.EDU
Subject:      RE: Dow Jones News/Retrieval Access
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We are trying to use Xtalk to dial into the internet and have set up
a macro to do so.  It does not always work however.

I think that if this is going to be a problem for a lot of institutions
you need to tell Dow Jones about it.

They have made the change because they heard that a lot of libraries
were using internet and also, it lowers their telecommunications costs.
When we use Telenet of Tymnet, they were picking up the tab.

I am not sure that they realize that if we are wired to our internets
then we are picking up the monthly charge, that some of us cannot get
extra hook-ups if we wanted to, and that some of our systems have a
tendency to go down just when we have an important search to do.

We are very heavy users and will keep one password for dial-in.

Dialog's classroom pricing is to charge more over internet - because of the
9600 baud connect (fair enough) and Data-Star and Nexis have no differential
rates.

I know that Dow Jones is taking a renewed interest in their business
school customers, so they are the ones who need to know.

Ruth A. Pagell,
Associate Director
Lippincott Library
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:26:31 EDT
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From:         Diane DiMartino <DJDBB@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Lexis warning notice
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              30 Jul 1992 07:16:48 -0400 from <SOLIBJA@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU>

LEXIS has recently increased their fees for full text printing/downloading
capabilities under their educational program at the same time they
have asked us to have students and faculty limit their printing/downloading
to only 200 lines per search.  I understand that they have had a space
problem on their computers as a result of all the printing/downloading
requests that have come from educational subscribers  but  I wonder if they
full understand the nature of academic research.  We are trying to get our
users to download/print screen by screen and to use it only in support of
the curriculum, but I for one hope Mead understands some of the printing/
downloading problems we continuously deal with on downloading and printing.
It is somewhat perplexing that Mead offers us such a fantastic system with
such broad full text coverage and then restricts its use! Will they
"pull the plug" on us?  I think Linda Simmon's idea of writing to
Mead is an excellent one.    I recently aired  my concerns on the LIBREF-L
list;  I'm glad BUSLIB-L is another forum for dicussion and, hopefully,
action.


Diane DiMartino
Director, Graduate Business Resource Center
Baruch College, CUNY
DJDBB@CUNYVM
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:05:00 EDT
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From:         SIMONS@DAYTON.BITNET
Subject:      Comment on Compact Disclosure

In her message re: Lotus vs. Compact Disclosure, Leslie Haas wasn't
sure if the Disclosure discs could still be retained.  The answer is
yes, we have all the discs since we first subscribed.  It's useful
to have them because if Disclosure updates financial statistics
but does not yet have the texts (ie president's letter), they leave
the text fields blank.  We often go back a disc or two and retrieve
the previous year's letter for a student who wants to know something
about the company.
Linda Simons
University of Dayton
Simons@Dayton
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