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From: chuq@Apple.COM (Chuq Von Rospach)
Subject: MAILING LIST: Minor League Baseball
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:18:37 GMT

A new mailing list has been formed for the fans of minor league baseball.

Submissions: minors@medraut.apple.com
Administration and mailing list changes: minors-request@medraut.apple.com
Owner: Chuq Von Rospach (chuq@medraut.apple.com, chuq@apple.com)

Administrative note: administrative requests sent to the full list will be
cheerfully refused, so if you want on or off the list, learn to follow
instructions.

Charter:

1) Issues affecting the minor league, an example being the
agreement with the majors that includes new (and to my eyes, really
stupid) stadium standards. That standard has caused Hagerstown to lose it's
AA team, to name just one side effect.

2) Minor league franchise status and changes.

3) Road trips and groups. A way for people travelling out of town to find
   out who's playing where they'll be and how to get there. Also a way for
   like minded people to set up groups to enjoy their sport together.

4) Schedules, team and league status.

5) Players and teams to watch.

6) Something I hope to be a minor issue, but worth keeping in mind:
collectibles, which are a hot, profitable item for the minors right now.

7) One thing I do NOT want to see on this list: fantasy baseballers
wandering around asking weird questions about who they should be drafting or
how minor league players are doing. This is a league about the minor leagues
as a place to enjoy, not as a farm system for the majors or a scouting world
for the roto folks. Leave those aspects to their appropriate newsgroups.

8) Anything else of importance about minor league baseball.

If you're interested in joining the discussion, send mail to
minors-request@medraut.apple.com. We have boxes available
two rows up from the visitor's dugout, and there's a barbeque off the left
field line with pretty good ribs. All we need now is you.
-- 
Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX) =+= Member, SFWA
  chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ =+= Editor, OtherRealms
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.games.board,rec.games.frp.advocacy,rec.games.frp.announce,rec.games.frp.misc,rec.games.misc
From: delisle@eskimo.celestial.com (Ben Delisle)
Subject: CFV: talk.politics.medicine
Followup-To: poster
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:06:53 GMT

	This is a CALL FOR VOTES for the creation of
	one new newsgroup : talk.politics.medicine  
 	The voting period will be 12-Oct-1992 through 2-Nov-1992  

  In order to vote for or against this newsgroup, you must send a mail
message to the address mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu.  If your site
does not understand that address, you might try:

	mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu@athena.mit.edu
	mit-athena!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server
	uunet!pit-manager.mit.edu!mail-server

If none of these addresses works, talk to someone at your site who can
help you address the mail properly.  Posted votes will not be counted.
Votes mailed to the poster of this message will not be counted.

  Your mail should contain one of the following three lines, either in
the Subject or body of the mail message:

	vote talk.politics.medicine yes
	vote talk.politics.medicine no
	vote talk.politics.medicine abstain

The first two lines register a vote either for or against the creation
of the newsgroup.  The third line cancels any previous vote for or
against the creation of the newsgroup.  Multiple voting messages from
the same person must be sent from the same address.  If multiple votes
are received from the same person, the last vote received is the only
one counted.

  You should receive a response to your vote, acknowledging its
receipt, within two days.  If you do not, or if you have some other
problem with voting, you can get help by sending mail to
postmaster@pit-manager.mit.edu.

news group:
 
     Proposed Title:  talk.politics.medicine  

Charter:
       talk.politics.medicine, unmoderated.
A newsgroup to discuss politics and ethics in medicine and related
sciences and fields. Topics may include discussions on whether:
medical care should be socialized; insurance be paid for by the
individual, the company, or the state; or if it is even mandatory.
They may also include discussions on ethics of cross-species transplants;
if fetal material should be used or not; government intervention  
into the health care choices of people (such as permitting (or not)
alternative medicine to coexist with mainstream medicine, nutritional
medicine, or preventive medicine); parental or individual (non)consent to
mandatory immunization or treatment that may violate ethical or religious
beliefs; euthanasia for terminal, vegetative, or severely crippled people,
be it voluntary or non voluntary; and the right to help or refuse care to
patients based on ability to pay, ability to help or care for them, or
based on any disease they may be carrying; or any other related topics.   
-- 
 delisle@eskimo.celestial.com | Nothing is fool-proof, fools are too ingenious.
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.ai,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.prolog,comp.object,comp.windows.x
From: mece25r@Rosie.UH.EDU (Suman 'Cyrano de Bergerac' Palit)
Subject: CFV: rec.sport.fencing
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:46:09 GMT
Reply-To: mece25r@Rosie.UH.EDU

This is the first call for votes for the newsgroup rec.sport.fencing.
Hope no one's forgotten what it was all about!

The final "consensus" seems to be to call it rec.sport.fencing to
begin with, have an open forum for discussions on fencing, all styles,
all SIG'S, in short; EVERYBODY even remotely interested in fencing
should be able to find someone to start a thread with, etc.

Later, depending on actual statistics on traffic, etc... we might
propose a split between the SIG's of fencing, but that's for later.

What seems to be a better idea right now, is to get at least one
general group started. So REC.SPORT.FENCING it is, and I ask for your
votes on this matter.

The format is as follows:......

Send me mail at the following address: MECE25R@JETSON.UH.EDU

Make sure that the Subject heading has the word "YES" or "NO" in it.

Write the following line:

YES, I vote for rec.sport.fencing 

	OR

NO, I do not vote for rec.sport.fencing

After that, write your full name and e-mail address if possible. 
it is not neccessary at this stage to write anything else. This should be
enough for me to seperate out YES votes from the NO. 

The start of the vote date is OCTOBER 16th, 1992. The vote taking process
will end NOVEMBER 16th, 1992. This is exactly the period of one month which
is reccomended by USENET. Any votes received after the midnight of Nov 13th
CDT, will be invalid. 

 CHARTER FOR REC.SPORT.FENCING: 

Fencing is an ancient and time-honored method of self-defence, and one
of the earliest martial-arts, western or oriental. There is an
incredible variety of various swordfighting styles all over the world.
Fencing has shaped our language, entertained us, and is part of the
martial and literary tradition of virtually every culture and
civilization. Keeping all this in mind, we propose the following
charter of the newsgroup rec.sport.fencing:

This newsgroup is dedicated to the discussion and promotion of the
study of the fine art of fencing, both in its modern and ancient
forms, Oriental and Occidental. To be specific, it is dedicated to the
discussion of:

[1] History of Fencing & Duelling in the West. 

[2] History of Oriental fencing styles, Kendo, etc...

[3] USFA/Olympic Fencing

[4] SCA Fencing

[5] Chinese Swordfighting, Kendo, etc, and comparative studies of them
    with Western fencing styles.

[6] Announcement of Tournaments, etc...

[7] Influence of fencing/swordfighting in various cultures. 

[8] Discussion of collectible(?) weapons and accessories.
-- 
Suman Palit
The Taker of Votes.
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.mac.programmer,comp.sys.mac.announce
From: Dave Farber <farber@central.cis.upenn.edu>
Subject: RFD: comp.org.us-nrc.cstb moderated
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:57:06 GMT
Summary: Proposal to create a newsgroup to discuss issues of
    interest to the US National Research Council CS Board.
    Also, to announce an interim mailing list on the same topic.

This is a request for discussion of a new group to be named
"comp.org.us-nrc.cstb". This will be a moderated (by me, at CSTB
request) newsgroup which is targeted at stimulating discussion of
issues critical to the computer science community in the United States
(and, by extension, the world). The Computer Science and
Telecommunications Board (CSTB) of the National Research Council (NRC)
is charged with identifying and initiating studies in areas
critcial to the health of the field.  Recently one such study --
Computing the Future -- has generated a major discussion in the
community and has motivated the establishment of this newsgroup in
order to involve broader participation. The proposed group will be
used in the future to report and discuss the activities of the CSTB
and to solicite opinions in a variety of areas.

Depending on future developments, there may be other groups under
comp.org.us-nrc, and that is why the proposed group is named as it is.

Until such time as the group is created, a moderated mailing list on
this topic is available for any interested parties.  To submit, send
mail to ctf-discuss@cis.upenn.edu; to join the list or ask
administrative questions, send mail to
ctf-discuss-request@cis.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.sys.amiga.games,comp.sys.ibm.pc.games,comp.sys.mac.games,rec.games.board,rec.games.chess,rec.games.design,rec.games.go,rec.games.programmer,rec.puzzles,sci.logic,comp.ai
From: Jyrki Kuoppala <jkp@cs.hut.fi>
Subject: CFV: comp.international
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:52:19 GMT
Reply-To: international-vote@niksula.hut.fi

This is a CALL FOR VOTES for creation of an unmoderated newsgroup for
discussing international aspects of computers, computer software,
telecommunications and so on.  The RFD was first posted on 1 Sep 1992.
The voting will end at 10-Nov-1992.

The charter:

comp.international	Discussions on hardware & software in international use.

Comp.international is a group for discussing design and use of
computer hardware and software (and other material in the field of
computing) around the world, ie. how to provide for differences in
character sets, cultural environments, styles in writing dates,
electrical and other requirements, legal requirements and so on.


In order to vote for or against the newsgroups, you must send a mail
message to the address international-vote@niksula.hut.fi.  Replies to
this announcement are directed to that address.

Example vote lines to be put in the body of the message are:


YES for comp.international
NO  for comp.international

Posted votes will not be counted.

Votes will be acknowledged in the newsgroups this CFV is posted to.

Please see the pertinent postings in news.answers and
news.announce.newgroups for the rules that will be followed in
creating a newsgroup.

//Jyrki
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.europe
From: Joseph R Blazic <blazic@ecf.toronto.edu>
Subject: RFD: soc.culture.croatia
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:06:27 GMT

                              CALL FOR DISCUSSION

                              soc.culture.croatia

               
I propose the creation of a new newsgroup for discussion of the following
topics:

- culture and cultural heritage of peoples of Croatia
- social and economic issues in Croatia
- current and previous politics of Croatia
- relationship between Croatia and its neighbours
- everything else pertaining to Croatia

* articles may be posted in any language (English, Croatian, any 
  language of former-Yugoslavia are preferred)

* the newsgroup will not be moderated


                             *********************


I have long ago come to the conclusion (as have many other people) that
soc.culture.yugoslavia is a completely inviable forum for constructive 
discussion of issues pertaining to Croatia and its citizens.  Most people
have grown tired of typing "rn", only to see 50 + messages in s.c.yu, knowing
that most of them about the latest fighting on the territories of former
Yugoslavia. 

That is why I propose this newsgroup, in the hope that people who care about
the well-being of Croatia and its citizens can discuss the many critical
problems that are facing that new country: the still-unresolved issue of 
"Krajina" and occupied territories; the return of all citizens to their
rightful homes before the war; guaranteeing the safety and rights of these
people when they return, and of all other people; rebuilding the war-ravaged
areas (which is more than 1/3 of Croatia); dissipating the "war-siege 
mentality"; healing the fresh physical and psychological wounds that have
accumulated in the past year and a half...etc. etc.

And of course, it would be nice to actually discuss _culture_ on a soc.culture
newsgroup as well.

/Joe Blazic
blazic@ecf.toronto.edu

P.S.  Voting will begin in precisely three weeks time.
Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,talk.religion.misc,soc.culture.arabic
From: J..Steven.Harrison@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (J. Steven Harrison)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: MAP Help!
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:51:41 -0100

Organization: Systems'n'Software

Hello Netlanders!

I have been running the following command to generate a pathalias database for
mailers for years:

pathalias -l jack ./data/[du].* ./data/MyMaps|sort -f|pathproc >paths.jack

where pathproc looks like this:
# move cost field to end of line
#
sed 's/\(.*\)   \(.*\)  \(.*\)/\2       \3      \1/'|
#
# convert target domain/host to lower case
#
lcasep |
#
# sort the stream
#
sort

With the release of the maps at the beginning of the month this years old
procedure has broken. Has anyone else expereinced any trouble?

Any useful suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

-- 
J. Steven Harrison, PhD.	steve@jack.sns.com
45034 Imnaha Court		Voice:	(510)623-8651
Fremont, CA   94539-6669	Data:	(510)623-8652
Systems'n'Software            	FAX:	(510)623-8656 

Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison)
Subject: Re: MAP Help!
Organization: Systems'n'Software
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 03:49:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.154814.7389@moon.nbn.com> jh@moon.nbn.com (John Harkin) writes:
>J..Steven.Harrison@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (J. Steven Harrison) writes:
>
>>pathalias -l jack ./data/[du].* ./data/MyMaps|sort -f|pathproc >paths.jack
>
>>With the release of the maps at the beginning of the month this years old
>>procedure has broken. Has anyone else expereinced any trouble?
>
>My pathalias is broken, too.  Pathalias core dumps while trying to do the
>latest maps.  I haven't had time to isolate the one that is doing it.
>
>John
>-- 
>John Harkin   +1 415 472-2452   moon!jh   jh@nbn.com   postmaster@nbn.com
>North Bay Network - News and mail for Marin county and vicinity

I found that by using the current version of pathalias which is included in the
smail-3.1.28 release the problem went away.

Hope this gives some guidance to others who may have experienced this problem also.


-- 
J. Steven Harrison, PhD.	steve@jack.sns.com
45034 Imnaha Court		Voice:	(510)623-8651
Fremont, CA   94539-6669	Data:	(510)623-8652
Systems'n'Software            	FAX:	(510)623-8656
From: zwbm07@hou.amoco.com (Walter Moore)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: C news' nntpxmit keeps causing a reboot of my Sun.
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:13:23 GMT
Reply-To: zwbm07@hou.amoco.com
Followup-To: news.software.b
Organization: Amoco

please forgive the repost.

Hi all you news guru's out there. 

I have JUST inherited a Sun 3/380 and the usenet feed for my location. I am 
new to system adminstration and to USENET administration.
 
The computer was down for a few days while we moved it to another location. 
When it came back up, it began to reboot regularly. 

I traced it to the nntpxmit process, but I don't know enough about news to solve the problem. 

Sun says that the process tries to get a free cylinder group and that causes the 
system to panic.

Any ideas?

Thanks,
 

---
TTYL & TANSTAAFL ---------------- Walter Moore 
      Internet: zwbm07@hou.amoco.com

..SCUBA divers do it with depth...blub...blub...blub...
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan)
Subject: residual lines -what are they
Summary: news reports an ever growing number of "residual lines"
Keywords: residual expire
Organization: w8hd.org
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:26:38 GMT

I run c-news doexpire with the -v [verbose] option and each time it runs
it mails the newsadmin something like the following:

expire problems:
2936 kept, 368 expired
4265 residual lines
0 links archived, 385 junked, 8 missing

What am I doing wrong which results in these 'problems?'

regards
kim culhan
------
kimc@w8hd.org
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: residual lines -what are they
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:21:44 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <1992Oct10.182638.226@w8hd.org> kimc@w8hd.org (Kim Culhan) writes:
>I run c-news doexpire with the -v [verbose] option and each time it runs
>it mails the newsadmin something like the following:
>
>expire problems:
>2936 kept, 368 expired
>4265 residual lines
>0 links archived, 385 junked, 8 missing
>
>What am I doing wrong which results in these 'problems?'

Nothing.  Doexpire thinks any output from expire is a bad sign, which isn't
correct if you use -v.  Revisions in this area are coming.
-- 
MS-DOS is the OS/360 of the 1980s.      | Henry Spencer @ U of Toronto Zoology
              -Hal W. Hardenbergh (1985)|  henry@zoo.toronto.edu  utzoo!henry
From: ameyer@cbnews.cb.att.com (Andreas Meyer)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: using mailx in Rnmail?
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:16:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnews.1992Oct15.151626.21767
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel NJ

(Sorry if you see this more than once - I'm having a bad day)

I use mailx as my mailer, and I like that I'm able to have copies
of my outbound mail saved without having to fool with Bcc: etc.
I notice, however, that when I reply by mail from inside "rn",
copies aren't saved - because the Rnmail script uses /bin/mail.

Has anyone hacked up Rnmail to use mailx as its mailer?

Thanks,
Andy
-- 
    ==--
  -====---    Andreas Meyer, N2FYE                     ahm@hoqas2.att.com
  --==----    AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel NJ        ..!att!hoqas2!ahm
    ----
From: Walter.Wohlmuth@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Walter Wohlmuth)
Newsgroups: news.sysadmin
Subject: access to sci.materials and sci.optics
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:38:29 -0100

Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering

I am unable to get the newsgroups sci.materials and sci.optics
on my system.  Help obtaining these newsgroups would be much appreciated.

Newsgroups: news.config
From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Need help with rn
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 19:14:13 GMT

> > I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this,

News.software.readers would have been better.  If there is more to say
on this, I suggest starting a new thread there.

> > but I'm having a
> > problem with rn. When I try to start it up I get the message:
> > Too many lines in .newsrc

> Mmmmm.. compile a newer version of rn ...
> Or simply change in one of the .h files a global variable that
> contains the maximum number of lines of your .newsrc

That's in common.h, and you actually have to change two things.
When increasing MAXRC, don't forget to also increase HASHSIZ, which
as it says on the next line has to be a prime number at least 10%
greater than MAXRC.  Here, due to an editing error we accidentally
made it a composite number smaller than MAXRC, and the result was
that rn locked up!  (Actually I'm talking about trn, but I expect this
is all the same in rn.)

However, my impression was that the original poster was not a newsadmin.
All this advice is for the newsadmin.  The original poster can meanwhile
adopt the workaround of deleting from their .newsrc file some lines
corresponding to unsubscribed groups (i.e. lines with ! in them).
Rn will then at least start up.

I have also emailed copies of both responses to the poster, since they
are presumably unable to read them in news at the moment!
-- 
Mark Brader			"Bad news disturbs his game; so does good;
SoftQuad Inc., Toronto		 so also does the absence of news."
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com				-- Stephen Leacock

This article is in the public domain.
Newsgroups: news.config
From: ricks@tellabs.com (Rick Slavens)
Subject: SWSTU
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:56:23 GMT


	Is anyone from Southwest Texas State University
	in San Marcos on the NET?

	I would like to send some E-mail to a friend
	and need the path. 

	Respond by E-mail is possible.


		Thanks,

			Rick 



__________________________________________________________________

	It all looks the same if you are not the lead dog.

__________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: news.config
From: jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov (J. Keith Alston)
Subject: Need help with rn
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:01:19 GMT

I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I'm having a
problem with rn. When I try to start it up I get the message:

Too many lines in .newsrc

it then aborts. anyone know how to solve this problem? Everything works
fine if I use xrn. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-- 
************************      Don't just do it!     ***********************
Lockheed Eng. and Sci. Co./Nasa Larc|J. Keith Alston jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: news.config
From: ferguson@wizard.etsu.edu (Jason M Ferguson)
Subject: killfiles
Reply-To: ferguson@wizard.etsu.edu (Jason M Ferguson)
Organization: East Texas State University, Commerce, TX
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:31:28 GMT

I apologize if this is in the wrong conference.
However, I've heard alot about killfiles for the usenet and was
wondering how to create one. It would be great to chop everything
that had a subject line beginning with "re:"
if you can help please email me.

      /\          The Illumnati: Proud To Be Serving You!
    / o \     Jason Ferguson: ferguson@[wizard,ogre].etsu.edu
  /______\        The Gnomes Of Zurich, Inc.

Newsgroups: news.config
From: kattke@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (g.w.kattke)
Subject: aquilla
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: il
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:03:17 GMT
Keywords: path

I would like to be able to reach a friend at aquilla.com,
and cant seem to find a path that works. Can someone help?

Thanks
Jerry Kattke
kattke@ihlpl.att.com
Newsgroups: news.config