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From: spickett@orion.oac.uci.edu (Steve Pickett)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Hunting joke (may be offensive)
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:47:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


Tim,

 Heres some more bear humor. Feel free to post it. 

-Steve
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A guy walks into this sporting goods store in Alaska,
immediately spys a rather haggerd-looking old salt of
a store clerk sitting by the cash register.

"Hear ya got a lotta' bears 'round here?"

"Yep.", answers the clerk.

"Big bears?"

"Yep."

"Mean bears?"

"Black bears?"

"Yep."

"GRIZZLIES???!"

"Yep."

"Got any bear bells?"

"What's dat?"

"You know, them little dingle-bells ya put
 on yer backpack so bears know yer in
 the perimiter so's they can runs away ..."

"Yep. Over yonder ..."


"Great. I'll take one fer black bears, and one fer grizzlies. 
 Say, how'd you know if yer in black bear country anyway?"

"Look fer scat."

"Oh. Well, how how'd you know if there's GRIZZLIES????!"

"Look fer scat."

"You just said that!"

"Yeah. But grizzly scat's differnt."

"Well now, just what's IN grizzly scat that's different?"

"Bear bells."
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From: cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter)
Subject: Re: Peep Sights
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:04:40 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug10.084830.18027@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, rigg@osnome.che.wisc.edu
(Tim Rigg) writes:

> I'd like the net.opinions on peep sights.  My partner swears by them.
> He drilled the hole out so he could use it in low light.  But now the
> hole is so large I don't see how it helps at all.

I've seen some people who take the rear sight completely out, and
just use the frame as the rear sight.  I found my accuracy degrades
with this procedure, however.

> I am reluctant to get one because it just seems like one more thing to
> get in the way when that big buck walks past your stand.  Add the low
> light limitations and I don't see how they are worth it.  Do they
> really help your accuracy and precision that much?

It depends on what you're comparing it to...  I like a peep sight better
than an open sight, but prefer a scope to either.  Incidentally, you can
get a a thing called a "merit disk" (I think), which is just an adjustable
camera-like aperature for your rear sight.  With just a turn, you can adjust
it from a huge, low-light hole, to a peep so small you can't see through it.
I can't tell you how much they cost, but they are available....

-- 
Charles Scripter   *   cescript@phy.mtu.edu
Dept of Physics, Michigan Technological University, Houghton, MI 49931
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From: mbh@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (Matt Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: What handgun to defend against bears?
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:05:02 GMT
Organization: Physics Department, UCSD
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

I am looking to buy my first handgun with a specific purpose in mind.  I
do some solo backpacking and I'd feel more secure with the protection of
a handgun.  Although just about any handgun will scare away threatening
people [I've seen "Deliverance" too many times :-)  ], what kind of gun
would be suitable in scaring away bears?  I wouldn't be hunting with it,
I'd just like a handgun to scare things away.  Cost isn't that
important, but size and weight are.  Any suggestions would be greatly
appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

					Regards,

					Matt Harrington
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From: X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: Tracking and Blood Trailing Sprays
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:12:53 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug13.083947.17145@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
      shawn@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Shawn Boyd) writes:
 
>Peroxide.  Well, two words actually... hydrogen peroxide.
 
 
This is the best idea I've ever heard.  And it's not damaging to the
ecology!  Thanks for sharing it with the group.
 
      ----------------------------------------------
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(409) 846-3273 (home)   |           hunting season (in Texas)
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From: kdw@icd.ab.com (Kenneth D. Whitehead)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: A deal on Archery tackle?
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:40:48 GMT
Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


In article <1992Aug18.080217.23808@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
     ut-emx!shawn@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Shawn Boyd) writes:
> You need to consider spending more.  Ferals and Russian wild boar aren't
> always dangerous, but they certainly can be.  You may want to hunt a season
> or two on less cantankerous animals before you pig hunt.
 
 The first animal I killed with a bow was a 175-lb Russian boar; we
did it with dogs, and except for the running around the hills trying
to catch up, it was a relatively easy hunt.  I dropped it with a
single shot, which must have hit the spine (it required a followup, of
course, but the first shot put him down for good).  The bow was set at
_52 lbs_.

It CAN be done by a new guy wielding a 65 lb. bow, but nonetheless,
you should take Shawn's comments seriously, because in spite of MY
experience, these can be some truly nasty critters, and not all hunts
go as well as the one I described.
From: clsg1177@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Curtis L. Stowers)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Carbon vs Aluminum
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:40:26 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


I currently am using a Bear White Tail 2 with Bear 31" hunting
arrows.  (I don't know the number for the  arrow as I simply 
assumed they would be adequately matched for the bow.  When in
practice I can shoot 3 to 4 inch groups at 25 yards) The bow is
set at 60 lb.  I'm considering changing
arrows and am looking for advice on both aluminum and carbon
shafts.  I'm especially curious about  how well the carbon shafts
hold up.  I've had trouble with the aluminum shafts bending/creasing
during practice sessions.  Any suggestions/ comments would be
appreciated.
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From: haake@cvs.rochester.edu (Bill Haake)
Subject: Fletching offset on arrows
Organization: Center for Visual Science, U. of Rochester
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:13:45 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

I just received some XX75 2216 arrows as a gift and noticed that the
fletches has no helical offset. The XX75 2117's I bought last year
have a significant offset. What gives? How necessary is an offset and
does it differ depending on the arrow? I am trying the 2216's (it's
nice when people take your suggestions for a gift isn't it :-))
because I had a lot of trouble tuning my bow last year and thought a
stiffer arrow might help. One of my problems was the offset fletches
on the 2117's had very little clearance on my rest. I use a dual prong
TM Hunter flipper rest and the fletches were offset so much, the base
of the fletch where it is attached to the shaft would hit the tips of
the prongs unless it was perfectly centered. Is this a common problem
with flipper rests or is it more likely due to the setup of the bow? I
managed to get things working okay but I would like to do better.  My
remaining problem is that arrows with broadheads group slightly lower
than those with target tips. The arrows and tips weigh the same. I
assume I still have a little fishtailing going on, though I can't see
it. Should I be satisfied with a little drop with the broadheads or
should they group right along with the target tips? I would practice
with broadheads, but they really cut up the target and are hell on
fletches./fletch


Thanks in advance for your comments.
Bill


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From: tag@icf.hrb.com (Thomas A. Glass)
Subject: Bow Quivers
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:05:00 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

I'm looking for a good quiet quiver. One that doesn't rattle or make
alot of noise. I want an on bow quiver. Any comments (bad comments are
just as good or better than good comments)would be greatly
appreciated.


Thanks,

Tom Glass
From: keith@clodii.columbiasc.NCR.COM (Keith Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Infrared heat detectors
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:41:07 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug19.071837.23951@doug.cae.wisc.edu> powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland) writes:
>I just received the Gander Mountain 1992 Fall/Winter catalog. On
>page 205 I was astounded to see the following item for sale. The
>description under the photo read:
>
>"Game Finder is a portable, hand-held unit that helps you find
>wounded or downed game - the goal of every ethical hunter. In
>fact, it could make the difference in whether or not you recover
>the trophy of a lifetime. This flashlight-sized unit uses
>infrared heat detector that senses temperature differences as
>small as 1 degree F when scanning an area. A tan graph displays
>relative heat (a large change of several degrees such as the heat
>radiated by a large animal will illuminate all 10 lights in the
>bar graph, revealing the presence and proximity of the animal).
[stuff deleted]
>operation. $249.99"
>
>Yeh, right. Hunters are going to use this only for finding downed
>game.

I had the same thoughts as you when I read, Jim. If it can locate
downed or wounded game, it should also be able to locate live game
as well. This opens up the possibility that hunters could "zero"
in on their game much like fisherman use sonar. It would be real
interesting to experiment with one, but at the price I don't think
I will get too. But then, I guess it is just a crude imitation of
the really neat thermal IR nightviewers that the Army uses. 

Keith

 
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From: ut-emx!shawn@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Shawn Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Re: Infrared heat detectors
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:46:27 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


In article <1992Aug19.071837.23951@doug.cae.wisc.edu> powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland) writes:
>I just received the Gander Mountain 1992 Fall/Winter catalog. On
>page 205 I was astounded to see the following item for sale. The
>description under the photo read:
>
>"Game Finder is a portable, hand-held unit that helps you find
>wounded or downed game [deletions... sb] 

>Yeh, right. Hunters are going to use this only for finding downed
>game.

 Yes.  I hear you.  It sounds like you are a little bit unhappy about these
 things.  They make me pretty uneasy too.  I won't say I feel like they 
 should be banned, but I know I'll never use one.  It just doesn't seem quite
 right to me.  Boy, this one sounds like it could get pretty hot.  I think
 I'll just back off now, and watch the show.
 
 Shawn
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From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Subject: Re: Peep Sights
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:04:50 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Aug11.084327.17455@doug.cae.wisc.edu> X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.084830.18027@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
>    rigg@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Tim Rigg) writes:
> 
>>
>>I'd like the net.opinions on peep sights.  My partner swears by them.
>>He drilled the hole out so he could use it in low light.  But now the
>>hole is so large I don't see how it helps at all.
 
You friend didn't need to wreck his peepsight...I don't think.

Lyman and others have for a long time made peepsights with replaceable
apertures.  Screw in a large one for low light, a small one for bright
lighting.  For somewhat more, you can get variable-aperture peepsights
(and variable-width front sights), with and without polarizing or color
filters for those who like to fiddle with gadgets.

Well, they're available for rifles...I don't know about changeable or
variable apertures for bow peepsights.
 
>I one them a couple of times, and hated it.

Once I got some peepsights that worked, I wouldn't trade them for 
anything less than a good scope, rifle or bow.  (Hard to find a
scope for a bow, but...)

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From: pmm@cblpf.att.com (Paul M Martinelli)
Subject: Archery Broadheads $$
Organization: AT&T
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:42:49 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu
Keywords: Broadheads


I have seen several posting on broadheads and what folks think about their
favorite brands. Well I have used Thunderhead 125's since starting to bow hunt
5 years ago. In my opinion they are GREAT and nearly indestructable. All of the
broadheads were in perfect condition after recovering, even the ones that went
through both sides of the rib cage and one that stuck in the spine. I also
have seen some postings claiming that they can't afford the higher priced
Thunderheads or similar broadheads. I have a couple of comments on this:
   1. 6 Thunderheads can be bought for ~25.00. 6 should last at least 2 yrs.
   2. Most folks that complain about the high price of hunting equipment
      can be found in the bars after each hunt.


P. Martinelli
Can't wait until Oct. 3!  



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From: barry@godzilla.quotron.com (Barry Geipel)
Subject: Where to hunt in Utah
Organization: Quotron Systems, Inc.
Date: 13 Aug 92 08:44:49 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

I am planning a deer hunting trip in Utah. We are tentatively going to
hunt just west of Richfield. Does anyone know if this is a good area?
What are some other good areas in Utah?

Barry Geipel
(barry@quotron.com)


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From: sarah@cs.arizona.edu (Sarah M. Officer)
Subject: Re: Activists in the West
Date: 20 Aug 92 07:39:49 CDT
Summary: anti-hunting proposition on Arizona  fall ballot
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


In article <1992Aug17.100351.8185@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, sl45z@cc.usu.edu writes:
> 	I'm looking for some information and some conformation on
> information that I have about the Anti-Hunting activities going on in
> the West.
> 	I was also told that Arizona's ballot this year will include
> hunting as a voting subject.  I couldn't believe it.  Is this true?  I
> can't imagine the state right out abolishing hunting.  Polls indicate
> that it will go through, if I have been informed correctly.
> Anyone.....?

It is true.  There is an anti-hunting proposition on the ballot this
fall in the state of Arizona.  It is backed by animal-rights (?) groups
in California, and it is thinly disguised as an anti-trapping law.  
According to the state attorney general, if it passes there will be no
trapping in Arizona.  There will be no hunting.  There will be no 
fishing with barbed hooks.  Rats in your house will have to be removed
via catch-&-release traps.  (I don't know WHERE you will release them,
though).  There will be no population control on those animals
which are currently controlled by hunting (eg. elk, coyote, mountain
lion, all of which need thinning in some parts of Arizona).

Since hunting license fees make up the greater part of all Game & Fish
funding (which controls & monitors all animals, not just game
animals), there will presumably be a large dent in their budget, too.

As an interesting note, I was in Yellowstone this summer doing some
catch-and-release fishing.  I checked with the ranger on whether I should
use barbless hooks or not.  I was informed that barbless hooks do as much
or more damage to fish as barbed ones because they penetrate so much 
deeper.

- sarah @ caslon.cs.arizona.edu
From: srh3@Ra.MsState.Edu (Steven R. Hollis)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Quiver wanted (or plans at least)
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:19:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Aug19.071949.24218
Organization: Mississippi State University
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

Well, I bought my first longbow in a pawnshop last fall and from what 
other bowhunters have said, I got a steal.  A 60 lb draw for 18$
Now I need a good quiver.  Being the medieval fan that
I am I would love information on back quivers whether it be to 
buy or to make (I know that the bottom 6-8 inches are gonna be DARN
thick to accomodate a possible fall!)  Any info is appreciated

Thanks
Steve

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From: ras@fred.niaid.pc.niaid.nih.gov (Randy Stevens)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: FLETCHING JIG
Keywords: BOWHUNTING
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:05:19 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research & Development Center
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

I need to purchase a fletching jig for fletching 4 inch feathers.  I
would like to get one that does all three feathers at once.  Has
anyone had any GOOD or BAD experiences with the ARIZONA E-Z Fletching
Jig?

Thanks,  Randy A. Stevens
From: brp@icf.hrb.com (Blaine 'NORM' Patterson)
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: West ward hoooo!!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:48:24 GMT
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


    Hay Colorado hunters, I am looking for some info on the opening
of rifle season. And I also would like some B.L.M. info for Graig
& Rut Nat, Forest areas, stuff like herd size of the mule deer &
elk. I also heard there are some changes in the hunting law's since
last time I was there so how's about some info on that to, don't 
want to be an out law

                                          Thanks
                                        "NORM!!!!!!!!!"




PS

Any numbers or addresses 
would help loads
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: robinson@ac.dal.ca
Subject: Update on Veracity Check
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:15:09 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

Well, I ordered my treestand from BDS yesterday.  I ordered the
Alum-I-Lok Magnum (same as the standard but rated for 300 lbs).
Should be here soon.

While I had them on the phone, I asked them about their arrows.  They
don't sell seconds.

However, I did get a chance to look at a Cabella's catalogue.  It
looks like they do sell seconds.  Their XX75's are listed as being
straight to .004 (supposed to be .002).  Now, perhaps they're
measuring the straightness of the arrows differently, I don't know.

I've not seen a catalogue from Gander Mountain.  Bass Pro Shops don't
mention straightness at all, from which I assume they don't sell
seconds either.

-- 
John Robinson                  Only criminals, tyrants, and cowards have
robinson@ac.dal.ca                 reason to fear the armed, honest citizen.
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From: kdw@icd.ab.com (Kenneth D. Whitehead)
Subject: Re: Veracity check
Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
Date: 12 Aug 92 08:35:27 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

saunders@skitzo.dseg.ti.com writes:

>I mail ordered my first bow from Gander Mountain last year and have
>been extremely satisfied. It was somewhat difficult in getting it set
>up, but I think that the learning experience in itself was worth it.
>Another thing to consider is when buying from the mail order guys,
>your not necessarily left out in the cold as far as assistance goes.
>Gander Mountain had a 800 number that would connect me with one of the
>guys in their archery shop, they were very helpful and even offered at
>one point to let me try a different set of arrows and if they did not
>tune up right, I could send them back. As for the quality thing, your
>definitely getting a line of BS.

>Tracy Saunders 


Just a tip on something I saw over at the archery range last night:
Hoyt (the bowmaker) had sent out a flyer warning people NOT to buy
Hoyt bows from Cabela's, Gander Mountain, etc., stating that this
would void the warranty.  Their justification was the the mail order
folks didn't have the knowledge that a pro shop had and couldn't be
sure that they were selling you the proper bow with the right setup
for you.

I'm a big fan of both Cabela's and Gander Mountain, but this could
mean a nasty surprise for somebody who bought a bow from them.  I'm
not sure if this is also the policy of other bow manufacturers, or
just Hoyt, but as the saying goes, let the buyer beware.


Ken 

>>>>------------>  "One shot, quick and clean"
From: sl45z@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
Subject: Activists in the West
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:03:50 GMT
Organization: Utah State University
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

[Moderator's note:  questions about the status of pro-hunting and
anti-hunting activities are valid topics for this group.  However,
please direct any followups that discuss the validity of either
position to talk.politics.animals.  tjr]

	I'm looking for some information and some conformation on
information that I have about the Anti-Hunting activities going on in
the West.
	My wife is taking a Hunters Education class, where they've
referred to local activity (within the state) against hunting.
Appearantly there is a bill up that will either end or greatly inhibit
cougar hunting in Utah.  There is a petition going on to stop these
actions.  I'll be one of the first to admit that I know next to
nothing about the cougar hunt, but I do know that the last thing
hunters want is to destroy the population.  I was also told that it's
been confirmed that "Antis" have chartered Greyhounds into the state
(from who know where) to press the issue.  If there isn't support for
the bill within the state, then why is it even being considered?
Anyone know more about this than I?
	I was also told that Arizona's ballot this year will include
hunting as a voting subject.  I couldn't believe it.  Is this true?  I
can't imagine the state right out abolishing hunting.  Polls indicate
that it will go through, if I have been informed correctly.
Anyone.....?
	Arizona is supposed to be the big starting place with
California next and then Utah third.  I don't mean to sound an alarm,
but, I still have to ask, "What is going on here?"  Is what I've heard
anywhere near true?  Personally I thought that this kind of stuff only
happened back east in places like Mass. or in Australia.  Down under
they have a big (I mean BIG) problem with activists.  Seemed to me
that if they beat you to a duck you wounded, it was theirs to keep and
cry over.
	I am not here to start a huge fire.  I would just like some
more info as to what is going on.  I for one am going to take special
care to make sure I don't add any fuel to the Activists side this
season.
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