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From: thorn@phoenix.radonc.unc.edu (Jesse Thorn)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Glue (was Re: Using aluminium foil...)
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:06:56 GMT
Organization: Radiation Oncology, NCMH/UNC, Chapel Hill, NC

In article <1992Nov20.030548.1060@b30.ingr.com> jay@b30.ingr.com (James Reeves) writes:
>
>
>God, how things have changed in 10 years!  I think the norm is also to use
>super glue to assemble the model and also for filler - is that right?
>

I still use Testor's Liquid Cement after all these year for gluing
plastic to plastic. This provides a MUCH BETTER bond as the plastic
surfaces are actaullay melted together. If you do it right, this seam
is as strong or stronger than the regular plastic.

Stuporglue (as we refer to it in North Carolina) is an adhesive - it
doesn't chemically bond the plastic together. It is like using Elmers
White glue to join metal pieces (well, the stuporglue is a _bit_
stonger) - pull on it hard enough and the pieces come apart at the
seams. I have a friend that built this really nice B-17 using
stuporglue. After completing the kit he dropped it and the belly seam
split open. This probably wouldn't have happened had he used liquid
cement. (Sorry to remind you of this, Kevin.) If you want to break a
stuporglue bond try tapping it and applying a lateral force to the
parts. Stuporglue bonds will shear more easily that they will pull apart.

I will run a bead of stuporglue along the inside of main seams to
provide strengthening of the seam. I also use stuporglue for minor
seam filling and attaching metal and resin parts to plastic. I also
use it to amuse family members when I accidentally glue various hobby
tools to my hands. (Stuporglue was originally developed as a liquid
field dressing during the VietNam War to bond skin to skin - to close
large gaping wounds quickly. The main problem, as you probably geussed,
was that medics often were glued to their patients!)

--Jesse
From: natola@coos.dartmouth.edu (Mark A. Natola)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: Mattel Vacuform for sale
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:56:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: D.M.S. Section of Neurology

In article <1992Nov17.144641.3507@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Williams) writes:
>From: williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Williams)
>Subject: Mattel Vacuform for sale
>Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:46:41 GMT

>I hope this is apropriate for this group...

>I have a Mattel "Vacuform" toy which I've had since the mid 60's.  I
>am told that these things are of value to some modellers.  Mine is in
>very good condition.  I checked it out recently using a piece of sheet
>styrene from a hobby store and the heating element and pump still
>worked well.  I even still have most of the little molds that came
>with it and the original instruction manual!

>Anyway, I'd like to sell it.  I've no idea what it's worth, so make me
>an offer if you are interested.  I'd rather it go to someone who can
>use it rather than send it to the landfill.

>Thanks,
>Jim
>-- 
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>Internet: williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov         Phone: +1 301 286-1131
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>Maryland Car Tags: DEV CAR
I'd be willing to give you $35.00 for it.

Mark
From: dmonroe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Darrel Monroe)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Gloss finishes
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:47:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.83711
Reply-To: dmonroe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Darrel Monroe)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: dmonroe@huey.cc.utexas.edu

In his post of 11 Nov 92, Sean Fleming asks:

> Which is the better acrylic gloss coat, Tamiya or Microscale (superscale)
> or some other.

There is no real easy answer to this, everyone has different things that they
like.  I personally don't use acrylics, I like enamels and lacquers, and 
generally spray using Dio-Sol as my thinner.  However, I have a friend who
builds fantastic models and swears by Pactra paints and their clear gloss
coat.  There are others I know that like to use Future floor wax.  I've tried
it with results that were acceptable.  The other evening at out local model
club meeting, one of the members was talking of using Future and showed some
results.  They looked pretty darn good.
 
My best suggestion to you, try them, and find out what YOU like the best.
The only way to get better at modeling is to experiment.  I consider every
model I build an experiment.  I like to try something new, whether its a 
new product, different technique, etc. on everything that I do.  Sometimes I
succeed, sometimes I don't succeed as well.  The quest is for what makes YOU
the best modeller that you can be, and that might be totally different than
what makes someone else good.

Happy modelling.

Darrel Monroe
dmonroe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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From: balay@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (BALAY  ERIC ALEXANDER)
Subject: FOR SALE!!!!!
Summary: SALE
Keywords: sellin'
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:17:29 GMT

RC equipment for sale:
 
    - Multiplex 14 channel MC Expert Radio System
 
        14 ch proportional expandable to 64 switched
        PCM/PPM transmission
        unlimited mixing
        ch 52 ultra narrow band (5khz spacing)
        4 bb metal gear servos
        instructions
 
        $350.00  OBO
 
    - Graupner Cherry high performance electric glider
 
        87" wingspan
        with motor
        FAST!
 
        $100.00  OBO
 
    - Supertiger .61 w/ muffler
 
        $60.00  OBO
 
 
        All prices are negotiable.  Feel free to haggle.
 
                          email   balay@ucsu.colorado.edu
From: bm511@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ronald G. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: P3B
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:55:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Anyone know where I can find a model of this airplane? I've seen the kit in
the past, but I can't remember where.
	Thanks,
	  Ron
P.S. I live in the Houston area.
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From: dmonroe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Darrel Monroe)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: P-38M Night Lightning
Date: 23 Nov 92 06:47:24 GMT
Reply-To: dmonroe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Darrel Monroe)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: dmonroe@huey.cc.utexas.edu

In his post of 17 Nov 92, Rafael Rodriguez asks:

RR> I am looking for info about the cockpit layout for the backseater
RR> station in the nightfighter version of the P-38. I have heaps
RR> of info regarding the front office. But nothing regarding the
RR> back seater.

RR> Does anybody know of any good source for this info?.

RR> (And also layout of the bomber/aimer station on the pathfinder
RR> version of the P-38).

The nightfigher was the P-38M.  I don't have much, but there is 1 photo 
in the Squadron/Signal book P-38 Lightning in Action.  The photo shows the
radar operators station and the left side of the cockpit.  It doesn't show
the right side unfortunately, but the radar scope and equipment mounted in
front of the radar operator is shown to good effect.

There is also some info on the pathfinder version.  It used the AN/APS-15 
Bombing Through Overcast (BTO) radar unit.  The equipment inside was the 
same as that found in the P-38 Droop Snoot bomber version, except that it
used had the BTO radar and the control panels for it instead of the Norton
bombsight.

Good luck in your search.

Happy modelling

Darrel Monroe
dmonroe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: rlw@atlanta.dg.com (Richard Wright)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: Using aluminium foil to mimic metal finish
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:07:57 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp. ASSD, Atlanta, GA

I seem to remember reading a technique article in FineScale Modeler some
years back. The guy was using the wrappers from Nestle's Crunch bars 
(not those NBA commemorative bars though - they have a paper backing
on the foil. Use the silver kind). For an adhesive he used the 3M spray
adhesive thinned with lacquer thinner. (At least I THINK that was the 
adhesive). Personally I use BareMetal Foil, which comes with an 
adhesive backing. Only two problems with BareMetal foil - 1) it's a bit
expensive and hard to find. 2) The adhesive has a limited shelf life. 
I recently had to discard an entire sheet of BareMetal that was only
1 year old. Stuff wouldn't stick at all. Bummed me right out.

					Richard

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From: natola@coos.dartmouth.edu (Mark A. Natola)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: Using aluminium foil to mimic metal finish
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:54:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: coos.natola.54.722177668
Organization: D.M.S. Section of Neurology

In article <1ee2pqINNbm4@male.EBay.Sun.COM> august@sachsen.uni-dresden.de (August Kurfuerst von Sachsen) writes:
>From: august@sachsen.uni-dresden.de (August Kurfuerst von Sachsen)
>Subject: Using aluminium foil to mimic metal finish
>Date: 18 Nov 92 18:42:02 GMT

>Hallo Freunde,

>I'm trying something new on my own--using
>aluminium foil to simulate a metal skin
>on a WWII Japanese fighter aircraft.

>I used a REAL thin film of Elmer's glue
>and cut pieces of foil and placed them on
>top. It looks stunning in the middle of
>the piece but toward the edge of it I see
>wrinkles. Despite the rivets and panel
>lines adding realism to the model, I still
>think it could be easier and more realistic.

>Does anyone have any recommendation for
>adhesive and where can I get a cheap
>thinner layer of aluminium? My kitchen-use
>aluminium is still too thick to work with.

>Your favorite techniques or procedures would
>also be helpful...

>I will also be flying to California to do
>business and will be in San Francisco area.
>Please tell me what foil products (adhesives etc.)
>are available there and which are the best
>hobby shops there.

>Danke und Tschuess,

>S.K.M. Herr Friedrich August, Kurfuerst von Sachsen, Koenig von Polen

You need to get "BARE METAL FOIL" which is sold in sheets about 5" x 12".
It has glue on one side, and all you do is peel it from the backing sheet 
and press it on.  It takes a while to get the hang of it, but looks nice.  
It is advertised in Fine Scale Modeler all the time.

Mark
 
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From: villan@ntmtv.UUCP (Ernie Villanueva)
Subject:  f14tomcat
Keywords: tomcat
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:44:29 GMT

Hello there,
I some information concerning flat type paints to use on modern day navy aircraft such as the f14 tomcat, a6 intruder, a7 corsair, and f18 hornet.
The problem I am having is picking the corect color grey for these aircraft.
Any information on this subject is apreciated. thanx in advance.
ERN*MAN 


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From: thorn@phoenix.radonc.unc.edu (Jesse Thorn)
Subject: NASM Archives address change
Organization: Radiation Oncology, NCMH/UNC, Chapel Hill, NC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:01:48 GMT


Andrew Bennett had originally posted the address for the National Air
& Space Museum archive search service. They have recently moved. Their
new address is:

 NASM
 Archives Division
 Room 3100
 MRC 322
 Washington, DC 20560

Same deal - send them a letter requesting info on no more than 3
aircraft. They will respond (hopefully) within 2 weeks on what info
is available. You then send a check & they ship the stuff via UPS. The
prices quoted were very nominal - something like $0.35 square foot for
reproducing large size plans. There is a $3.50 UPS shipping charge.

The fellow I talked to said they had things like the original
manufacturer's drawings and maintenance manuals for some aircraft as
well as plans specially made for modellers.

I recently requested info on some aircraft that I want to model. I
will post a followup when I get a reply from the folks in DC. This
sounds like a good use of my Tax Dollars at last! (Has anybody out
there got info from them?)

--Jesse "Can't wait until work is over so I can go home and airbrush
my Hobbycraft MS 406 kit tonight" Thorn
From: dmonroe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Darrel Monroe)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Cooper Detail Sets for the Fw 190 in 1/72
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:25:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.83778
Reply-To: dmonroe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Darrel Monroe)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: dmonroe@huey.cc.utexas.edu


  Cooper Details has just 2 new sets for all you 1/72 scale Luftwaffe modelers
out there for the Fw 190.  The first set is a cockpit set for the Fw 190 A, F,
D and the Ta 152.  The sets are designed for the beautiful NEW Hasegawa kits
of the "Butcher Bird".  The set is all resin cast, as usual, but has the new
photoetched steel sheet of rudder pedals, harnesses, and trim wheels (these go
in the spares box for this set).  There is a complete cockpit tub, new rudder
replacement tail-wheel, two alternate instrument panels, and a seat.  
 The second new set is also for the 1/72 scale Hasagawa Focke-Wulf. This one 
is a conversion set to backdate the A-8 kit to an A-5 or A-6.  It even has 
a "special" intakes to model Hermann Graf's A-5 correctly.  The set is all
resin cast and includes the previously mentioned intakes, alternate wheels,
an upper cowling for the Mg17 guns, inner gear doors, Mg FF outer wing guns
and appropriate bulges.
  The sets are very nice.  Roy Cooper has done it again.

Happy Modelling
Darrel Monroe
dmonroe@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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From: gse@ida.liu.se (Goran Sedvall)
Subject: Re: Marivox Co.
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:43:11 GMT

mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:

>I recently saw the Marivox model of the J-22 Swedish fighter.  Nice little
>kit.  I thought I saw that it was molded in Poland and then boxed and shipped
>out of Sweden.  I was curious why that was so?  Does Sweden have some sort
>of idiotic "war toy" law or is this just a better business arrangement due
>to the high tax situation in Sweden.  Does anybody know what other kits we
>might see from Marivox - such as a Saab J21R to complement Heller's J-21.
>Kent M. McClure
>Auto racing afficionado and member of San
>Jose IPMS chapter.
>My views are what they are, like them or not.


I belive it depends on, (I'm not sure, Urban might know it better than I),
a Swede who wanted to produce a kit. He was born in Poland and know the right 
people in Poland to produce a kit for a reasonabel price. A rumour says
that the same Swede is planning to produce a SAAB B17 and a SAAB sk60 (105).
But if anyone is interessted, there are a lot of shortruns of Swedish aircrafts
such as SAAB 18 Bomber, J22 and SK14 (I think a J21R is avialable) and much
more. I think it is Sten Sundelin who made some of them. He have also an 
exelent aftermarket decalsheet for the J22.

Goran
From: butler@magna.ksu.ksu.edu (The Hornet)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: FS??? to British Standard colors
Date: 15 Nov 1992 22:57:44 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: magna.ksu.ksu.edu

     A friend of mine is working on an F-4J in British markings but he has
a problem.  The decal sheet calls for British Standard colors and he doesn't
know what their Federal Standard Equivalents are.  Does anyone out there 
have knowledge of these systems?  Does anyone know of a publication on these 
conversions?  Thanks for your help and happy modeling.

	Bruce R. Butler			John E. Gabor
	Butler@matt.ksu.ksu.edu		Phalcon@matt.ksu.ksu.edu

__________________________________________________________________________
"A blind man on a galloping horse is not going to notice the flaws!"

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From: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: rec.models.scale
Reply-To: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:33:31 GMT

Anybody out there have information regarding the lawsuit/court injunction
against Tamiya.  I heard that Tamiya was planning on releasing their
1/35th scale armor to the US with pricetags no greater than $30, but a
group of East Coast hobby shops (big ones) had a fit since they bought
tons of the kits from MRC at inflated prices.  As a result, the hobby stores
banded together to sue Tamiya for lost revenue and get a court injunction to
prevent teh kits from coming to the US.
I don't know about most of you modelers out there, but the pricing of kits
now-a-days is getting to be a bit absurd.  I remember seeing a non-limited
production kit going for roughly a buck a piece (and I don't mean a buck a
kit.  I mean a dollar for each individual piece of the kit).  I'm a modeler,
not the Sultan of some rich oil country.
Kent M. McClure
Auto racing afficionado and member of San
Jose IPMS chapter.
My views are what they are, like them or not.
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From: rray@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Randy J. Ray)
Subject: New products just seen (armor and aircraft)
Organization: US WEST Communications, Inc. -- Denver, CO
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:20:07 GMT

Last night at my local club I got to see Tamiya's new T-72M1 in 1/35. This is
the kit to buy if you want to do a T-72. Detail is phenominal, and according to
the real buffs, including Tony Englehart of A.E.F. designs, who has numerous
photos of the T-72, it is almost perfect. Expected price is unknown, probably
as expensive or more so than their M1A1 with mine plow (which has hit the 
shelves here in Colorado). Expected availability is anytime in the next 10 days
to 2 weeks. The kit gives you steel mesh and plastic mesh for engine vent
covers, scale rope and tubing for fuel tank detailing, and even copper wire to
put through the "fuel line" so that you can form it to the contours of the
body.

Another Japanese company whose name I forget (starts with an 'E', they have one
photo-etch set out, and it was for armor) will soon have on the shelves a 
photo-etch metal sheet for the DML 1/72 He 219A-0/7. Very fine detailing on
this, had a price sticker on it for 1700 Yen, what ever that is in US$. Wish I
could remember their name.

Randy
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From: williams@nssdcs.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Williams)
Subject: Mattel Vacuform for sale
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Maryland
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:46:41 GMT

I hope this is apropriate for this group...

I have a Mattel "Vacuform" toy which I've had since the mid 60's.  I
am told that these things are of value to some modellers.  Mine is in
very good condition.  I checked it out recently using a piece of sheet
styrene from a hobby store and the heating element and pump still
worked well.  I even still have most of the little molds that came
with it and the original instruction manual!

Anyway, I'd like to sell it.  I've no idea what it's worth, so make me
an offer if you are interested.  I'd rather it go to someone who can
use it rather than send it to the landfill.

Thanks,
Jim
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From: marks@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Mark Storin)
Newsgroups: rec.models.scale
Subject: Re: Using aluminium foil to mimic metal finish
Date: 20 Nov 1992 15:27:51 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

Try Bare Metal foil.  It's a VERY thin aluminum foil with adhesive backing.
Sold in single sheets of about 6x12 inches.  In will conform to all sorts of
curves and shows the smallest details of the underlying plastic.  Don't know
the current cost, sorry, but it should be available in many of the finer hobby
shops in California.

- Mark A. Storin
- marks@studsys.mscs.mu.edu
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From: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Can Am + F3000 info wanted
Reply-To: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 20:00:21 GMT

I am both a racing entusiast and a model builder, and I was wondering
if anybody out there could lend me a hand with a couple of projects
that I got.  What I need are photographs of the following:
     a)  cars used in the Can-Am series, especially privately entered
         McLarens or Porsches (why a good history of the series was
         never written I don't know),
     b)  ex F1 cars that were used in the first season of F3000
         (I am atempting to convert an Arrows and a Williams to
          represent the F3000 cars),
     c)  ex F1 cars used in the old Aurora F1 championship,
 and d)  a McLaren M8D (?) that was painted like a Led Zeppelin
         album cover (I remember vaguely seeing a photo of this
         car in some auto magazine.  I think it was run in the
         Interseries).

If you can help, please reply via e-mail or the net.
Thanks.
Kent M. McClure
Auto racing afficionado and member of San
Jose IPMS chapter.
My views are what they are, like them or not.
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From: huoviala@hkkk.fi (Matti Huoviala)
Subject: CO2-scale plans?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 10:35:23 GMT
Organization: Helsinki School of Economics, Finland

Hello,

I have finaly aquired a CO2 engine kit, but I have rigth now no
ispiration nor time to draw plans for a model. 
Anyone in the net know a place to order from?
I have a dream of Pilatus Porter or Helio Courier or Stinson something
or... well, that kind of type, you know.
Masa

Please, email to huoviala@karl.hkkk.fi

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From: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: Marivox Co.
Reply-To: mcclure@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 22:22:04 GMT

Goran,
    Do you have an address or a price listing for that stuff you mentioned?
I would surely like to have that information.  Being half Swedish, I
could probably get one of my relatives to buy the stuff for me and ship
it here
Kent M. McClure
Auto racing afficionado and member of San
Jose IPMS chapter.
My views are what they are, like them or not.
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