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From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Inside Sports--On The Bubble
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:11:07 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC


  Inside Sports mentioned a few other teams that should be invited to the 
tournament, but probably wouldn't be because of the teams in conferences that
get automatic berths.  These included:

LSU 	DePaul	  West Virginia	   Stanford	Virginia*	UCLA!!!*
    Mississippi State	  Virginia Commonwealth	    Rhode Island
Purdue*	   Providence	  Florida*     Missouri	   Vanderbilt	  UTEP*

* = team that I think will make the tournament
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Well, he's not the most intelligent guy in the world."
			--MTV VJ Duff, on dinner partner Christian Laettner
From: db@duke.cs.duke.edu (Dov Bulka)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Joey Beard - Duke Bound
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:50:40 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:


>Hmm. Interesting.  I assume you agree that G.Hill will start at the point.

G. Hill point guard? No way! For one thing, if G. Hill is the point
guard he'll be sorely missed on the wing. More importantly, I have a 
problem with the tendency to declare every big guy with decent ball
handling as the second coming of Magic Johnson. A point guard is
first and foremost a passer and a playmaker. G Hill can handle
the ball well for a 6'9" but that does not a point guard make.

Remember the Wake Forest game, by the way?

dov


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From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Illinois News
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:23:56 GMT


For those Illini followers out there, Jerry Hester, a highly sought-after
recruit from Peoria Manual, verbally committed to Illinois yesterday.
This was pretty much expected...

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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Dickie V's guide (was: Street and Smith Issue)
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:48:38 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <16116@borg.cs.unc.edu> denelsbe@washington.cs.unc.edu (Kevbo) writes:
>In article <70054@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>)In case anyone is interested and doesn't already know, I've just
>)discovered that the Street and Smith College/Prep Basketball Issue
>)is supposed to come out on October 20.
>
>S & S is usually a pretty good guide.  But Dick Vitale's guide is (IMO) the
>best.  Anyone know the street date for Dickie V's guide?  Anyone seen a
>copy yet?

At the risk of rehashing an old thread, I really dislike Dick Vitale's
commentary.

I'm afraid to buy his guide, for fear that all his analysis will be 
presented in capital letters, with question marks and exclamation
marks liberally distributed throughout...rather like the way he talks.

Street and Smith are about as good as they come.

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Final Four Venues (was: Re: Call for toughest arena votes)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:39:38 GMT

In article <70206@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)  
writes: 

> By the way, the 1992 Final Four program book lists Rutgers as the
> host school for hte 1996 FF.  But doesn't somebody (Seton Hall,
> maybe?) play more games there every year than RU?

I think this is a political decision to make the "smaller" confs
feel good about hosting.  Butler was the host for the Hoosier
Dome in 1991.  I don't think they are the host in '97 again,
but I don't recall who is - either IU or Purdue, I think.  I
don't have the NCAA program here because they think I work :)

O. 

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From: rjm@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ryan Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Inside Sports Poll
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:42:19 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <69825@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>
>The following NCAA pre-season basketball poll (92-93) appeared in the 
>November issue of Inside Sport.  Since I haven't already seen it given 
>on the net, here goes.
>
>1.  Michigan 
>2.  Kansas 
>3.  Indiana 
>4.  Duke 
>5.  Florida State 
>6.  Tulane 
>7.  Seton Hall 
>8.  Memphis State 
>9.  Kentucky		Note - IS had UK in this same spot last year
>10. North Carolina 
>11. Arizona 
>12. UNLV 
>13. Iowa State 
>14. Michigan State 
>15. Georgetown 
>16. Evansville 
>17. Iowa		
>18. Cincinnati
>19. Oklahoma
>20. New Mexico State
>21. Wake Forest
>22. Brigham Young
>23. Arkansas
>24. Minnesota
>25. George Washington
>
>Other teams (called upset specials) expected to make the 26th-50th
>spots were:  Boston College, Tennessee, Marquette, Georgia Tech, 
>Louisville, Illinois, UMASS!!! (tm) (IS forgot the capitals and
>exclamation marks - tsk tsk), Temple, Texas, Georgia, UNCC, Southern
>Illinois, Utah, Ohio State, Alabama, Connecticut, Arizona State, 
>Nebraska, California, Xavier, James Madison, New Orleans, Syracuse
>(this was pre-probation), Bowling Green, and Oklahoma State.

I hate to be a one-sided, narrow-viewed fan, but what about Purdue?
They aren't really going to be all that bad, are they?  I fully 
expect them to at least make the NCAA's, so why is everyone 
overlooking them?  Any input?

Ryan



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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: ongh@iastate.edu (NightOwl)
Subject: Re: Sport Magazine's Sweet Sixteen
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:34:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.000244.6959@Csli.Stanford.EDU> orourke@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Michael O'Rourke) writes:
>
>In <1992Sep29.171518.17739@dg-rtp.dg.com> foerster@zman.rtp.dg.com
>(Mike Von Foerster) writes:
>
>>In article <5627@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>>|> 1. Kansas-- With three returning starters, plus Darrin Hancock, plus Roy
>>|>    Williams, they should be #1 from start to finish.
>
>>How you can lose your best player - Alonzo Jamison and come back the #1 team
>>in the country is a gutsy call. There are several teams that lose no starters

Some teams lose starters and yet come back strong every year. Plus, Jamison
wans't a real big factor in KU's play last year.
>
>
>When KU lost in the second round of the NCAA tournament last season it
>was a big upset, but when they lose in the second round this year it
>will be a *monumental* upset.
>
>Rock Chalk
>orourke@csli.stanford.edu

KU is good at losing games they should at least win. In 1990, they lost to
UCLA when picked to win, 91, no one expected them to go as far as the final
4, they lost to Duke in the Finals. This year in the NCAA, look who they lost.
I mean, UTEP is a good team no doubt, but did you notice this game wasn't even
as close as it should have been? They choke when it's time to win.
If they're really ranked that high, watch out, i would think they may lose 
some early games...

Hank 
ongh@iastate.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W. STROUP)
Subject: Re: Sport Magazine's Sweet Sixteen
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 30 Sep 1992 16:08 MST  

In article <5627@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes...
{ 
{For what it's worth, Sport just put out its Sweet Sixteen for next year.
{ Here are the teams, and a summary of their reasons (or what passed for them).

{Conferences (the teams to watch out for, winner listed first):

{WAC: BYU

Watch out for Utah in the WAC.  The Utes has Senior Fwd Josh Grant back after
a season rehabbing from knee surgery.  They also return a nice 1-2 guard 
tandem.

{Metro: Tulane, Louisville

Where is Cinci or Memphis St?

{	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
{"Christ resides in pea soup"--William Shatner, "Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds",
{				played backwards (really!)


-Eric
ewstroup@cc.utah.edu

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From: lhstone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Louis "Big Lou" Stone)
Subject: Re: NCAA Magazine predictions
Summary: Michigan ranked number one. 
Keywords: Michigan, NCAA Magazine
Organization: The Daily Grind Coffee Shop
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:02:40 GMT

I don't think that Michigan merits a number one pre-season ranking.
Michigan's FAB 5 will be sophomores this year.  Looking at past
experience with sophomores, I don't think it will be that great.

(What the hell do you mean Lou?)
Example:  Damon Bailey of my own beloved IU.  During his freshman year, he was
          hot stuff and played well, etc.  Last year, (sophomore) he went 
          through a serious case of the sophomore blahs.  It seems like almost
          every player that has done well in their first year comes down from
          the ozone and gets a cloudy head for a while during their second 
          year.

          Now.... if Michigan has all five go through the blahs at _once_
          it could really affect their tourney hopes.  If they go through
          separately then Michigan may be able to weather it.



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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: PAC-10: Oregon State Schedule
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:09:41 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Sep30.210605.26077@CS.ORST.EDU> rpandey@CS.ORST.EDU (Rajeev Pandey) writes:
>Probable Starters:
>
> G Brent Barry  6'5"-170  Soph
> G Charles McKinney 6'2"-192 Sen
> F Kareem Anderson 6'4"-205 Soph
> F Chad Scott 6'7"-210 Sen
> C Scott Haskin 6'11" Sen
>
>Bench:
> F Mustafa Hoff 6'7"-210  Jun.

If Hoff is as good as his rep coming out of West Valley JC, he might start
right away ahead of Barry, with Anderson moving to guard. Hoff had a real
impressive year for West Valley last year.

I thought Scott had finally been cleared to play, I guess not?

They look to be much improved.




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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Joey Beard - Duke Bound
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:19:31 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

Robert Burgin writes:
>
>	If Beard (or anyone from Duke) jumps to the pros,
>	it would mark the first time that a Duke basketball
>	player has jumped.  
                   ^^^^^^!!!
And yet they continue to win basketball games? Fascinatin' stuff, laddie.
Tell us more.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Kentucky Tidbit
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:31:58 GMT
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael

James T Graves writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.basketball.college: 28-Sep-92 Kentucky
>Tidbit Mike Von Foerster@zman.r (602)
>
>> Jeff Sheppard, the kid KU just signed is from Atlanta, GA. He's also
>> a big fan of Rex Chapman. He took an unofficial visit to KU in August.
>> Rumor has it that they had a locker with Sheppard's name on it and a 
>> jersey with with Sheppard's name and Chapman's number on it.
>
>Ok folks, one more time...KU is Kansas, Kentucky is UK.  Thank you and
>good night.
>
Not so fast there, Mr Wizard. KU is Kentucky Utilities. They've also
recently signed a very fast point guard Reddi Kilowatt. Absolutely
the fastest player with zig-zag arms and round head in the country.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.football.college
From: neierka@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Kent A. Neier)
Subject: gArY's at it again.
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:56:33 GMT

Distribution: usa


Gary L. Newell writes
>In article <1992Sep25.091638.26720@doug.cae.wisc.edu>,  
saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>> They play basketball at Arizona?!?
>
>They certainly don't play football.....
>
>
>			gln

Well, to all those who mock the Gods of anti-woofing, let this serve as
a warning.  Our Mr. Newell has once again showed a new and vivrant
way to get the anti-woof Gods' attention.  This small (and seemingly
harmless) post nearly created the upset of the year.  Unfortunately, 
someone probably spoiled it all by posting a halftime 7-2 woof.

Oh well, congrats to gArY on his innovation, and to the Cats for their
victory.

Kent Neier
neierka@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
neierka@cs.rose-hulman.edu
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From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: Re: O'Bannon du Jour! (was Re: Hendrick (was Re: Sport...))
Keywords: no "s"
Organization: UCLA Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 08:10:48 GMT

In article <23285@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>
> OH how neet - you and the wimp out for a day in the shade - how
>cute this all is.... 
>[...]
>oooooh - took it to the hoop once eh? My mym - must be at full strength
>then eh?
>[...]
> I'm worried - wanna bet on his high score against Arizona this season? If
>he reaches double figure I'll be surprised - what a bunch of pathetic bozos
>you UCLA folks are - get a grip on reality will ya - your
>team is shit and Arizona has the PAc-10 wrapped up.... ask ol Harry from
>ASU - he'll tell ya....
>[...]
> Oooohhhhh my - a big stiff - tell me - just how much weight does the 9'6"
>freak have on him now? 120 pounds?
>[...]
> Famous last words - you probably saw the best team effort that you'll
>see out these shmucks all season - remember who is coaching these
>misfits....
>
>			gln

Looks like poor ole' gar's still smarting a bit from UCLA's domination
of Arizona and the rest of the Pac-10 last season...  Pretty sad sight...

- Trent Lange

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From: alan@acpub.duke.edu (Alan M. Gallatin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Student Ticket Distribution at Schools--a survey
Date: 3 Oct 92 20:09:53 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Oct3.183716.22459@jade.tufts.edu> gharris@jade.tufts.edu
(George W. Harris) writes:

[About Duke undergrad basketball tickets... Then continues:]
>	For grad students, of course, it's a different story.  Season tickets,
>paying money, assigned seats.  So structured, so rigid.

Not quite.  There are no assigned seats, except to the extent that the grad
students are within one particular area (it's still a free-for-all in terms
of specific seats, er, uh, standing-spots).

(By the way, I'll take structure and rigidness any day if I'm one of the
people guaranteed entry to the games!)

The actual grad policy has changed over the past few years.  It used to be
(when I got my tickets) that grad season tickets would go on sale at some
particular point.  For 24 hours prior to that, there would be a "line" with
rigid check-ins every 2 hours.  Before that 24 hours, it was a madhouse
trying to be "first in line."  Tickets sold for $100/season and were
renewable each year provided you were still an enrolled grad student.
A nice perk of the tickets is that when they did lotteries for ACC tickets,
all undergrads could enter but only those grads with season tix were
allowed.

The new policy is a bit different:
For a one week period, anyone eligible to renew may do so.  (This usually
results in selling a little more than 300 of the 500 grad tickets up for
grabs).  Over the course of a weekend, people wanting new tickets would
have to camp out and make check-ins according to some ridiculous policy.
Then, if you were fortunate enough to make it through the checks, you
entered a lottery.  The winners of the lottery then could buy the $100
ticket books (which, incidentally, permit you to transfer any ticket to
anyone else holding a grad ID).  This year, I think just about everyone
who made the checks got tickets (the process worked perfectly in that it
weeded out exactly the right number of people).

Starting with students purchasing this year, they have an absolute right
to renew next year (pending grad student status).  In year 3, they need to
camp out again and "earn" another two years (but may bypass any lottery once
the checkins are made).

Rigid?  Yes.  A pain in the tush?  Absolutely!!  Do I care?  Not a bit...
'Cause when I was a first year, I was #23 on line!! :-)
-- 
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Duke University School of Law; Durham NC
From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Joey Beard - Duke Bound
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:59:41 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <1992Sep28.115422.18413@ms.uky.edu>, fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>>trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
> [hmm? odd name...must come from some other planet] 

It's the radiation.  It caused a mutation.  That's what happens when you work
in the Gothic Wasteland for too long.

>>Perhaps I should have added "at the same points in their career."  
>Right you are, Don Pardo. Just a mild cautionary jape for those with
>the same addiction as the recruiting mainliners. Which CAN be treated.
>Although the addict has to do most of the work himself.

  This brings up a new idea: a twelve step program to help recruiting junkies
help themselves.  The Goober Place, or something like that.  But like heroin,
the withdrawl is much worse for you than the drug itself.  As long as you 
keep getting recruiting info, you can go on for another day.  I imagine Bob
Martinez will be starting the War on Gibbons any day now.
   The jape is well taken, considering that Crawford Palmer was
ranked higher than C****t**n L***t**r coming into college.   

>Coach Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Season: 0-5 Life: 0-7
    Looks like they need a new coach.

	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
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From: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Subject: Re: Call for toughest arena votes (revised)
Originator: jagreath@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jagreath@eos.ncsu.edu (JOSEPH ALAN GREATHOUSE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:42:15 GMT


In article <29SEP199215400468@cc.utah.edu>, ewstroup@cc.utah.edu (ERIC W.
STROUP) writes:

|>A couple of notorious arenas have been left out:
|>	Reynold's Coluseium - NC State  (Crappy seats for most of the students
|>					but a select few are within an arms
|>					reach of the floor from the sides)
|>	The PIT - New Mexico		(Simply HELL for the opposition)

A couple of others seem to have been overlooked:
	The Thomas and Mack Center - UNLV - Another Pit with glitz.
	McKale Center - Arizona - Noisy, raucus fans who can hold their own
	with the Dookies....

-Eric
ewstroup@cc.utah.edu

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