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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:19:00 GMT
From:         SCCS6073@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE
Subject:      john barry / james horner

John Barry scored both dances with wolves and Out of africa (as well as 11
james bond films, the black hole and many others.

James horners other films include

Star Trek II
Star Trek III
Willow
Cocoon
Cocoon the return
Field of Dreams
The rocketeer
I love you to death
Commando
Glory
Aliens
Krull
Battle beyond the stars
The prince of tides
Patriot games
The name of the rose
Something Wicked this way comes
The journey of the natty gan
Batteries not included
An american tail
etc
etc

g
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From:         the Freshman Scott Huddle <huddle@VTTCF.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Dances with Lions?

John Barry did indeed write the score to _Dances with Wolves_.

tatonka
-scott

PS Hey, John, how's the film fest shaping up in Charlottesville.
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:15:00 EST
From:         SCLERC@BGSUOPIE.BITNET
Subject:      Re: "Glory" soundtrack

>>I take it you're a fan of Sir Humphrey in _Yes, Minister_ and _Yes,
>>Prime Minister_?    8-)
>
>Damn, Liam.  Can I get a direct feed from the BBC?  I feel like Woody
>Allen's character in STARDUST MEMORIES, the guy who is stuck on a train with
>all those somber Bergmanesque people, and looks out the window to see a
>train on the adjacent track going in the opposite direction, whose
>passengers are having a bacchanalian celebration.
>
>j-man

        Bacchanalian? Surely not - they're British...

        Although Humphrey in a toga would be worth paying to see...

        _Yes, Minister_ and _Yes, Prime Minister_ are available through the
same source as _Black Adder_ and the absolutely fantastic _Blake's 7_ (a.k.a
the best series ever made): _Video Catalog_. If you want the toll free number,
let me know. _Signals_, PBS's catalog, carries a lot of British series as well,
but I think _Video Catalog_ has more.


                        Sue

sclerc@bgsu.opie.edu
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:08:39 CST
From:         Rick Francis <C47805NF@WUVMD.BITNET>
Subject:      FBI & CIA in movies and out

The question was raised about White Sands:  why are the FBI and CIA
opposing each other?

In the recent past there are LOTS and LOTS of examples in which FBI
investigations into local activist groups (esp. concerning Central
America) run smack into CIA plants, provocateurs, etc.  I heard a
fascinating lecture on this once from a fellow who knew whereof he
spoke.

Just yesterday I read in the NYT that the CIA just might actually open
those files on the assistance given to Nazi war criminals after WWII.
Ain't that grand?  They said they would release records based on their
security-risk assessment, and not at all on their potential for
 embarrassing the gov't.  Anyhow, it's not hard to imagine any number of
FBI investigations which would run into that stonewall.

Well, that's just to point out that it may not be a crock to suppose some
historical examples to the White Sands confrontation... But of course
the dramatic value is easy to see:  battle of titans, that sort of thing.
How about JFK?  Wasn't it implied that the FBI was somehow muzzled or called
off?  Not sure about that one...

Rick Francis
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:16:58 -0400
From:         MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET
Subject:      Marushka Detmers

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            14-Sep-1992 10:45pm EDT
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SUBJECT: Marushka Detmers

    Christopher,

    Sorry if this is a disappointment to you ;-) but she is not exactly an
    up-and-coming starlet from Russia or Poland. This actress may have
    slavic origins - as suggested by her first name - but according to my
    references she is definitely French. Her filmography:

    1983        PRENOM CARMEN
                LA PIRATE
    1984        LA VENGEANCE DU SERPENT A PLUMES
    1985        LE DIABLE AU CORPS
    1987        Y'A BON LES BLANCS
    1988        HANNA'S WAR
                DEUX
    1989        COMEDIE D'ETE
    1991        LE BRASIER

    LE DIABLE AU CORPS (Devil in the Flesh) is available on video in the
    US, but with a title like that, I wonder in which section of the store
    you should look for it... :-)

    MICHEL

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    (we were talking about who we liked in the Mambo Kings)

    I did! And Merushka (sp?) Detmers, who I think is supposed to be an
    up-and-coming starlet from Russia? Poland? I read an article about
    her in Esquire but I can't remember the details...

    Anybody else know more about her?

    Christopher Mark Conn
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:00:58 CDT
From:         Bill Oppel <S70762OW@ETSUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Gremlins 2

When I was managing a theatre, we showed Gremlins 2.  Think about how
convincing that film break was in the movie.  Well, we were double-screening.
The interlock had failed four times already, which breaks the film.  We had
a sold out show, and when the break happened in the movie, quite a few people
came out wanted their money back.



                                   -- Bill Oppel
                                      I'm working on it!
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:55:43 CDT
From:         C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Two Questions

Howdy all,

Nummber One:  What is the name of the movie that
stars Steve McQueen as some bank robber or something?
There is a scene where he is in a hang glider or something?
(I don't know what I'm talking about, this is really
a friends question and I told him I would check with
the Super Friends back at the Halls of Justice
(a.k.a.  the Cinema-L gang).

Number Two: In reference to Friday's MST 3K episode,
(I told you all I'ld start discussing these beauties),
The lead (I can't believe I'm blanking on his name),
keeps getting jabbed about "and then my lungs began to
fill with air..."  What movie was Crow refering to and
while your at it what was the name of the actor?

Thanks

Joe Daus  U of MO-Columbia
C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:57:17 -0300
From:         Don McCreary <mccreary@PX4.STFX.CA>
Subject:      Unbelieveable Truth

Well, I finally saw this gem -- after tonnes of people pointed me in
the right direction.  Thanks!  For those who haven't seen this movie
by Hal Hartley, DO!  It really made me realize how bland Hollywood
productions are these days.

Don
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 10:58:00 EDT
From:         Peter.Giordano@WILLIAMS.EDU
Subject:      Re: "Glory" soundtrack

I know that I'm in a minority here but I found GLORY to be a terribly
boring, cliche-ridden, poorly directed film with a horrilbe score (some
good music but over done in relation to the images, in other cases the music
sounded more like muzak)
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:25:52 -0500
From:         PHARRIS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: orthographic apostasy

touche' I'm wondering how all you guys (I use that as a directive not as a
sexist comment) have time to watch movies and send all these messages too.
My Question, in Bette Midler's For The Boys, Bette sings a ballad,"Ps I
Love You" Can anyone get me the copyright date and composer?
Thanks,
Paul
                            I Can't think of anything witty to say here.
                                  at least not at 12:30 am :)
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:25:00 CDT
From:         Sandra Ballasch <CADSANTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Joe's good news

Mystery Science Theater 3000 is on Comedy Central on Saturdays.
Here it shares space with VH1, but I think that it is available
24 hours where the cable company allots it a whole channel.  It
is an all comedy channel showing old comedy tv shows and talk
shows etc.
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 09:12:20 GMT
From:         Maciej UHLIG <UHLIG@PLKTUS11.BITNET>
Subject:      video movie magazines

Hi,
I'm interested in video movies. I'd like to subscribe some magazines
on the subject. However I know nothing what journals are available
in the US. Could some kind soul send me the information on this?
Can I take advantage of your hospitality and ask you to send me
by ordinary mail some older issues of the most interesting ones?
Thank you
Maciek UHLIG

e-mail: uhlig@plktus11.bitnet
ordinary mail:
Maciek UHLIG, ZHP 9/27 St., 41-106 SIEMIANOWICE SL., Poland
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:18:11 -0400
From:         MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET
Subject:      First visit to LA

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            10-Sep-1992 04:43pm EDT
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SUBJECT: First visit to LA

    I will be in Anaheim for the Society of Neuroscience meeting, October
    25-30. I don't want to miss this opportunity to visit the
    "Entertainment Capital of the World" from a movie lover perspective.
    Having 1) never been to LA before and 2) little time (Sat pm, Sun and
    maybe one afternoon during the week), any tips and suggestions would be
    appreciated in order to make the most of it. Obviously, I would rather
    avoid the usual tourist traps. One thing that I would really enjoy is
    seeing work in progress on a sound stage if this is allowed. I once saw
    some on location filming in progress during the shooting of some
    scenes of THE HANDMAID'S TALE on Duke U. campus but I imagine that what
    happens in a studio may be somewhat different.
    Please E-mail directly to me unless of course the info provided is of
    general interest to the list.
    Thanks very much in advance for your help.

    MICHEL
                mdeschuyteneer@sbccmail.bitnet

                mdeschuyteneer@ccmail.sunysb.edu
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 13:52:10 EDT
From:         ZJ30000 <ZJ30%LAFAYACS.bitnet@LAFIBM.LAFAYETTE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: jfk

hi, I too was a little diappointed in JFK. I did however enjoy the movie
and wih I would have seen it on the big screen instead of on video.
When the movie started to move away from the actual case it slowed down
and lost it. The ending court scene was well done and that made the
movie worth sitting through, even if it was a bit graphic. I once
believed that the JFK case was open and shut now I have doubts and I
thank JFK opening my eyes.

                Joe Zimmerman Lafayette College
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:31:48 CST
From:         CLAWDOG <CLAWSON@LOYNOVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: jfk
              7 Sep 1992 13:52:10 EDT from
              <ZJ30%LAFAYACS.bitnet@LAFIBM.LAFAYETTE.EDU>

I SAW JFK DURING A FOUR MONTH STAY IN HONDURAS, NEEDLESS TO SAY SITTING IN
AIR-CONDITIONING FOR THREE HOURS WAS WORTH THE 75 CENTS IT COST ME TO GET IN TO
 THE THEATRE. HAVING BEEN BORN AFTER THE FACT I CAN'T CLAIM ANY INTENSE EMOTION
AL REACTION, YET FOR THE MOST PART I DID ENJOY THE MOVIE.  (LIVING IN NAWLIN'S
HAS ALLOWED ME TO SIT IN THE BAR WHERE THE FIRST SCENE BETWEEN ED ASNER AND
JACK LEMMON TOOK PLACE)  I DIDN'T LIKE PESCI (OF COURSE, I DON'T LIKE PESCI
IN ANYTHING)  AND I WAS READY TO SCREAM AT COSTNER.  I CAN'T BE THE ONLY
PERSON TO HAVE NOTICED THAT WITH THE EXCEPTION OF "NO WAY OUT" COSTNER HAS
PLAYED THE EVERY CHARACTER EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, AND THEY ALL GET THESE
OBNOXIOUSLY PREACHY SPEECHES AT THE END OF THE FILM.  I CAN'T SAY THAT I WAS
MOVED, OR EVEN IMPRESSED BY THE COURT SCENE, ALTHOUGH THE FORTY-SOMETHING
PERSON I SAW IT WITH WAS SURE THAT COSTNER DESERVED AN OSCAR FOR THAT SPEECH
ALONE.   MAYBE ITS JUST ME...
       RICHARD CLAWSON, S.J.
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:44:58 -0400
From:         MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET
Subject:      No more lost postings!

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            10-Sep-1992 10:40am EDT
FROM:  MDESCHUYTENEER
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SUBJECT: No more lost postings!

    All messages sent to Cinema-L are logged by the listserver.
    So, if you have been accidentally disconnected or think that the local
    system ate your mail, and for anyone who has ever encountered a sticky
    "delete" key, here is how to get back those important postings.

    First and foremost, please remember to send your commands to
    LISTSERV@AUVM, *not*  to Cinema-l thankyouverymuch.

    To obtain a list of the Cinema-L log files, the command to send is
        INDEX CINEMA-L

    The log files contain all the postings for a given week. Once you found
    the file corresponding to the week you want, send
        GET CINEMA-L filename

    Also, note that the file corresponding to the week in progress is also
    available.

    Finally, I found that one is limited to request 256K worth of files per
    day which in my experience corresponds to two average weeks, except of
    course when an intense debate rages on, say... HUDSON HAWK ;-)  (Hey
    Liam, how are you?).

    Hope this helps.

    MICHEL
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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 09:34:07 CDT
From:         John Cobb <S058990@UMRVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      HELP

Hello Cinema Land,
     I have written a poem called Seagull Wind and set it to music. The poem
and music comes out to about 30min's. To approach this from a production point
of view (low budget) where to begin? The scriptinf of the poem-script is about
done, it calls for two actors - one male, one female - the female being the
Poet's muse. Each fragment of the poem has it's own set, and the overall at-
moshpere is sur-realistic. Any advice out there in Cimema Land
Thankyou,
John
P.S. the following fragment is from Seagull Wind  copyrighted 1980, John Wesley
Cobb,III
          In search
          I got tangled
          Entwined ...
          Then you
          Came along
          And ...
          Rearranged
          The twine
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From:         "Patrick Walsh" <eeipwah@EEIUD.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject:      Re: Blade Runner (Director's Cut)

To further the argument that Deckard was not a Replicant, from what
I can remember Harison Ford states that after some War or uprising,
Replicants were not allowed on Earth.
                                     Patrick Walsh,
                                      Athlone,
                                       Ireland.
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:31:53 CST
From:         Rick Francis <C47805NF@WUVMD.BITNET>
Subject:      Bladerunner, director's cut

I know this has been mentioned on here before, but could someone briefly
list the kinds of changes in the new release of Bladerunner?  It has not
opened here is St. Louis yet, and I need some idea of the type and scale
of changes in order to plan a class.  Much obliged.

Hey, how 'bout that _Raising Cain_?  Talk about campy!  I was in the mood
for it, fortunately.  Did it remind anyone else of fifties sci-fi films,
with the lengthy discourse on science (here, multiple personalities) from
the nerdy professor?  I think that was my favorite touch.
      Other reactions?
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From:         Larry Ross <AP201152@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Blade Runner (Is he a Replicant?

>Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 16:36:36 -0500
>Reply-To:     Discussions on all forms of Cinema <CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET>
>From:         acs_hahr@ENTERPRISE.ACC.UWRF.EDU
>
>SPOILERS FOR ANYONE WHO HASN'T ALREADY SEEN THIS CLASSIC
>
>
>
>
>
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>It is extremely obvious in the movie that the Deckard is a replicant. In the
>book, that fact is muddy (very similar to Total Recall), but the original
>short story does not clearly make you belive Deckard is a human, in fact,
>the original story made me think he was a replicant and the original movie
>confused me.
>
The original story made it pretty conclusive that Deckard wasn't an android,
since he was capable of loving animals and of empathy, something no andy could
ever do.  Also, the other bounty hunter (Phil Resch?) turned out to be human
also.

>Gaff knew about the unicorn because he had to study Deckard's replicant
>implants because it was Gaff's job to retire Deckard when Deckard was
>finished. Gaff says at the end
>
>"You've done a MAN'S job."
>
>He accents MAN'S (not "done", or "job" as is common)
>
Good point, maybe you're right.  But in the book, it was explained that andy's
couldn't be bounty hunters (I forget why).  Of course, we're not talking about
the book here.  Could it be that Gaff knew about the unicorn because all
replicant blade runners dream of it?

--Larry Ross
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From:         "Michelle Pfeiffer's Purrvert (Yee,
              Eugene)" <YEE@DICKINSN.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: _Alien^3_

I don't think Ripley had a rank in the last two "Alien" films.  In _Aliens_,
she had become a decommisioned (?) officer by the Company.  But if I remember
correctly, in _Alien_, she mentioned that she was a lieutenant.  Can anyone
corroborate on that?

-Euge
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From:         Maroy Akos <JZK2115@HUSZEG11.BITNET>
Subject:      Blade Runner

I've been reading these letters weather Deckard was replicant or not.
I did not read the book, but after the movie it was absolutely clear, that
Deckard was human. (E.g. at the and he could'nt handle the pain when his
fingers were broken, etc.)
My main problem is, I did not read the book. Could any of You tell me who
wrote it, and what printing house published it, or what is the ISBN code of
the book? If I know these things, then I may order the book from somewhere
(it's NOT easy to get a foreign language book in my country).

                                    Sincerely,

                                     Dark Eye
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:40:00 CDT
From:         Becky Albitz 5-5931 <CADALBTS@UIAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      come see the paradise

Along with everyone else whose Labor Day weather was less than
favorable, I spent some of the time video-watching.  I don't recall
ever seeing much publicity for Come See the Paradise, which is
surprising, considering the box-office appeal of Dennis Quaid.  This
is a very interesting film about an Irish lawyer/union organizer who
marries a Japanese woman.  Although highly flawed, this is the only
film I can think of which deals at all with the issue of Japanese
internment during W.W.II, which is why I purchased it for our libraries'
collections.  If you are interested in this film and issues it raises,
you might be interested in an article which appeared in the latest
issue of Jump Cut.
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