From: f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Growth of Christian Identity
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:56:02 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1992Sep25.221820.19161@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Bruce.Scott@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bruce Scott) writes:
> f_gautjw@ccsvax.sfasu.edu (Joe) writes:
> 
> "To me, fascism is a form of government in which important decisions of
> state are made in the board rooms of large international corporations
> and powerful banking centers after careful prodding by special interest
> groups.  The legislative element becomes a rubber stamp that does the
> will of the cartel as the legislators live it up in high style with an
> arrogant demeanor that only their limousine drivers can tolerate.  The
> people are kept beered up and docile before their TV's watching ball
> games and sitcoms with a vague sense of foreboding as the fascist
> sympathizers loot the tills of the S&L's of $500 billion.  The people
> hardly notice the problems because the national security apparatus,
> always necessary in a fascist society, has been quite successful in
> influencing the media crowd and keeping an eye on dangerous
> dissidents...like Randy Weaver.  The masses are talked into accepting a
> sham two-party system for which all of the big decisions have already
> been made.  Of course this form of state-corporatism could never happen
> here so we should rest peacefully tonight."
> 
> Joe, this is not aimed at you; it is just a comment in general.
> 
> It is important to note that such corporatism is not the only sort of
> Fascism, and not even the only sort which threatens free and open life in
> the US. I could very easily describe what the religious right has in store
> for us when/if they ever get the chance, in terms pretty similar to those
> used in the above quote. (For doubters, just note the performances at the
> Republican Convention, and the very public remarks of such as Pat
> Robertson, whose hate-mongering the Bush campaign pretty clearly
> supports.)
> 
>         Important decisions are made by a front agency after careful
> consultation and coaching from Church leaders. The government in general
> exists as a smiling public relations interface with the Priests living it
> up in high style with a paternalism tolerable solely by their most ardent
> acolytes. The people are maintained through an ideology of prayer and fear
> of death (yes, even when they're young), not to mention the moral
> anasthesia of Certainty (yes, and Family Values). Tax-free church
> contributions (and yes, the S&L's will still be there) will help in
> fleecing the people, who are taught from childhood the evils of material
> wishes. The general decay of moral behaviour (even and especially by the
> Priests, just check out how it was under the Renaissance Popes) under the
> facade will be shielded by an organisation similar in function if not in
> name to the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, who will also serve
> to eliminate undesirables (intellectuals, of course, will be the first to
> go; that is true in Fascist regimes of every color, not just the religious,
> just remember Argentina in the 70s). Dangerous dissidents, especially those
> like Galileo who innocently questioned doctrinal logic while professing
> loyal dedication. Of course this could never happen...
> 
> Or could it?
> 
> Gruss,
> Dr Bruce Scott                             The deadliest bullshit is
> Max-Planck-Institut fuer Plasmaphysik       odorless and transparent
> bds at spl6n1.aug.ipp-garching.mpg.de                 -- W Gibson
> 
	In such a context as you outline, it might be interesting to
trace the relationship of such fascism to legalistic moral or religious
bondage and the freedom from despotism as found in a love for the truth
and a refusal to sell out to such "isms" in a real quest for understanding.
What was it that gave Galileo the strength to withstand the onslaught on
his heart even if his mind did not comprehend the degeneracy of the 
system in which he was enmeshed?  His God had to be very real and the
source of his great creative energy.  Copernicus and many others have
faced the same problem and found the same answer.  And such is our hope
today for freedom from tyranny.