From: romigr@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com
Newsgroups: talk.politics.guns
Subject: A Brady Bill Debate
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:31:46 EST

My co-worker is a member of PETA and I am a member of the NRA and
North American Hunt Club.  We usually have some very interesting
debates at work with the hunt,gun issues. One thing we DO is debate
not argue and try to come up with a solution to a given problem.
	
	While talking about gun control ,ie Brady Bill, he made a 
suggestion that I could go along with and am interested in hearing
opinions from both sides on this.
	
	We both agree that crime control is a must and dealing with
violent criminals(40yrs armed robbery,death if you shoot etc) must 
take place at the same time as ANY gun control measures or gun
control would be useless.
	
	I am opposed to the Brady Bill as written as I don't think it
will reduce handgun crime(criminals won't wait and can get weapons from
sources other than dealers). I can live with a Staggers bill calling
for an instant background check as myself and co-worker both want to
stop felons etc. from obtaining guns from the dealer.
	
	With the subject of the "wait period" I questioned the cooling
off idea and think at most it might save 1-12 lives,in other words on
a national level not that many. Then my co-worker said how about a 5 day
wait for first time handgun buyers. We both agree that in the crime of
passion the person has a gun they won't run to the store, they will
most likely use one they have. 

	I am against gun regestration but can live with regester me as a
firearm owner dont regester my guns. With a Stagger's check it would
not be hard,(and they might do this anyway) to flag the data base once
a purchase has been granted to list that person as a firearm owner.
I am still a little shy about the Gov. having a list of firearm owners
but I believe that BATF has some list now anyway full auto's for sure.

	I am all for safety, and a firearm saftey course provision for
first time buyers might be worked out but this is another issue.

	Being a firearm buff and a believer in the second amendment I
don't like the thought of gun control, but have to admit that the crime
in the streets, cities, parks, houses, etc. must be stopped. Crime control
(death sentence for shooting in a robbery attempt, kidnapping, kill someone
in the commission of a felony, 40yrs for armed robbery[I know jails are full]
death for repeat violent offenders) we both agree is a must today if we are
to let the criminal know we wont tolerate this sh#% anymore!!!

	This is by no means a solution to the crime with guns problem, but
might be a step to start from. If a bill like ours goes to DC I hope it 
would stop the rest of the ban'em, buy'em, regester'em, repeal the second,
bills that won't affect the criminal and just harass me. I know that the
Sara Brady types won't rest till guns (except their bodyguards) are banned.
	
	My co-worker and I also know that Sara is extreem and most people
on both sides of the fence might use the word compromise in letting there
groups know how they feel. I don't want a compromise that gives up my rights
but am willing to be inconvienced and listed (shudder) if that with there
get tough on crime let me keep my guns compromise does some good.

	I hope readers of this group respond to this from both sides to get
a feel if something can be done that will hit the criminal scumbucket.

			RDR NRA/ILA/NAHC/USMC
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