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From: mvcy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: two questions
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:22:35 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <Bs11LD.66F@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>,
deitrich@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dave Deitrich) writes: 
> 
>>I remember the "Orbots" show, and it's not the one that was mentioned earlier.
> 
>>(stuff deleted)
> 
> Sorry, but that fits "Mighty Orbots" to a tee.

Maybe, but from the original description, I would venture to suggest that it
is actually 'UFO Robo Grendaizar (original Japanese name)' which was a pretty
successful show that was instrumental in pioneering the giant robot era.  I
know they marketed it in France back in '78 and the kids were crazy about it
there.  Unfortunately I can't remember the French name which might give a
clue to the English distribution name.

Definitely not Voltron which was a dubbed version of 'Sengoku-majin (?) Go
Lion'.  An inferior show with five lion robots combining to become the big
guy.
I didn't know L-gaim was dubbed.  Doesn't sound like it though.

> 
> This is either "Mighty Orbots," or something close enough to be fair game for
> a lawsuit.
> 
Since the original Grendaizar aired about 1976, if it is similar, I guess
Mighty Orbots people owe a lot of money.

Satoshi Amagai
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From: chadwick@world.std.com (Chadwick Ngan)
Subject: Re: Lodoss cd #3-- Kaze to Tori to Sora
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:08:46 GMT


	Nice translations!  How about doing the songs in the 2nd CD now?
	:)


					Chadwick
					Sheeta "the Elf"
From: tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam 100% Newtype Books
Date: 31 Jul 92 08:24:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <136qoB5w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert) writes:
>
>I was wondering, I am missing a few of the 100% Newtype Books, does 
>anyone know if they are still available from somewhere? The books that am 
>am looking for are: ZGundam Mechanical edition Vol 1 & 2, and Char's 
>Counterattack.
> 

They are ALL out of print and the only place you can get them is
used bookstores in Japan. Good luck.


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From: ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: RUMOR:  BATTLETECH anime!! (KENICHI SONODA CHARACTER DESIGNS)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:06:28 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

chan4@husc10.harvard.edu (Derek Chan) writes:

> IS THIS Mechwarrior?  Or some other game?  Can we buy this game here in the
> US via importers?  Anyone know the answers?
>
> (My friend has Mechwarrior, and it's an awesome game!)
>

It WAS an awesome game...when compared to games like Wing Commander II, it is
kind of poor. The best thing about the game is that it is a 3d mecha simulator
for all us anime fans to play...which brings me to a question: Is there any
other game where you get to  drive mecha around, for IBM-compatilbes? I don't
really think there is, but I'm just curious...


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From: okamoto@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Jeff Okamoto)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:51:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: A tantalising question  (Kyoko weren't no virgin....)
Organization: An-Pan Man Headquarters
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime

VP@Hearts.of.Gold.com (The Vogon Poet) asks:

> What was the cause of death for Mr.Otonotashi, the late husband of
> Kyoko?  Heart attack? :-)

He died from an unspecified illness six months after he and Kyoko were
married.

> Kyoko, was she a virgin when she met Godai?

Unlikely, unless she and Souichiro never consummated their marriage.
Godai, on the other hand, is a virgin.  He has kissed before, though,
as he recalls just after (accidentally) kissing Kyoko for the first time.
(Though for him, that would have been approximately three years in
the past)

An interesting side note: at one point, Kyoko wonders what it would be
like to go to college.  Since she got married to Souichiro after her 
high school graduation, she never did get to go to college.
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:49:11 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <Jul.24.08.42.11.1992.1341@remus.rutgers.edu> pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck) writes:

> > >Hiroshi "Death to all Otakus" Haga 
> I think what we have here is a culture clash caused by the American
> definition of Otaku and the traditional Japanese definition of Otaku.

Actually, it's a little more complex than that.

For us Americans, "otaku" has a connotation not unlike "fanboy", which is
that of a rabid fan.   Some people jokingly refer to themselves as "fanboys",
using a bit of self-deprecating humor ("After I bought all the back issues
of MUCUS MAN, I went and bought all the compilation volumes!  Gosh, I'm
such a fanboy...").  That's the sense in which people like me use the word
"otaku".

However, there is another, darker connotation to "otaku" in Japan.
Because of the Miyazaki murders (no relation to Hayao Miyazaki, see
ANIMAG V2.1), "otaku" has acquired a connotation among some people
not unlike "psychopath".  I think that's the reason Hiroshi doesn't
want to be called an "otaku".  I, for one, plan to respect that.

Ja ne,
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From: ST102272@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Young Su)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: (Hopefully last one) RE: Learing about World War II in Japan
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:17:47 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

This is just beating a dead horse to death, so anyone tired
of reading a rehashing of this "contraversy" please feel free
to skip...
On Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:14:31 GMT
Lai, Yi-Shao (u322543@twncu865.ncu.edu.tw)

>  [Runs through entire anti-Japanese diatribe]

>  Let's pay attention to the Japanese government. Had the emperor made
> any apology to Chinese? NOT YET!

Have the Communists made any apology for stealing mainland China from the
Nationalist government?  Have the Nationalists made any apology to the
Taiwanese for looting and pillaging their land?

>The authorities even re-wrote the
>history textbooks to cover their invasion.

People rewriting textbooks is nothing new.  The Communists did it.
And (god forbid) the Nationalist government did it.  For a time,
Chang Kai-shek was elevated to godhood status - ie, everybody had to
bow before his picture before school could start. (Gee, and everyone
thought that the Communists were bad....)

>  Those are the Japanese. They want everyone feels sorry for them but
> forgets their crime.

That's not exactly fair on the Japanese.  Nationalist textbooks used to
write (haven't looked at recent texts) that the Communists took over
mainland China by treachery and deceit.  There wasn't too much mention of
Nationalist corruption and looting.  There wasn't too much on how the
barbarian Nationalist troops raped and pillaged Taiwan after being forced
out of mainland China. -- oh, yeah.  I forgot to mention the dream of the
oldtimers to militarily "re-unite" the China that the Communists "stole".

Bashing wasn't exactly the point of this post; I'm sorry if it turned out
to be inflammatory in any way.  However, I wanted to point out that the
Japanese weren't the only ones guilty of cover up (folktales often mention
that the Chinese were the masters of this art..)

I just wanted to point out that this issue has come to a dead end as far
as the advancement in the knowledge and understanding of anime is
concerned.

I beg that people still interested in this topic please move it to
rec.politics, soc.china, one of Valentine Smith's bboards, or some
other board discussing Japanese-Asian politics.

Again, my apologies for wasted all this bandwith.
Now on with the anime....

- Y.E.S. (ST102272@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU)
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:21:20 -0400 
From: Hiroshi Haga <hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: KOR Questions.
	<35976@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.anime: 22-Jul-92 Re: KOR Questions.
Tonghyun Kim@sdcc3.ucsd. (1128)

> You consider yourself to be a fan of manga/anime, don't you? :)


Yes, and that doesn't make me an otaku.  If so, most of Japanese will be
otakkies in one way or another.  And what makes you want me otaku?  I
personally thinks I have nothing to do with you and you have no reason
whatsoever to accuse me in any way.  Thanks.


Hiroshi Haga 
$@K'2l(J $@Bg;V(J(hh0u+@andrew.cmu.edu)

"It's not true unless it makes you laugh, but you don't understand until it
 makes you weep" - a quote from Illuminatus!
From: kilpatri@nextnet.csus.edu (Joseph Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam F91
Date: 25 Jul 92 23:43:27 GMT
Organization: California State University: Sacramento

In article <8TLgoB1w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert) writes:
>No, there is no sequal for F-91. Considering how badly it did, and how 
>very unpopular it is with Gundam fans, I don't thing that we will ever 
>see anything more from Gundam F-91. I guess that just because it's 
>Gundam, it doesn't mean it has to be good.... 
 
Well, I consider myself a moderate Gundam fan (I haven't memorized everyone's
stats and the like but I like it) and I liked F91.  I especially liked the F91
becuase it was cool.  I like the idea of the beam shields.  Yeah, the story
wasn't that cool, but I loved the mecha.  And you have to admit, by putting
"This is only the beginning" on it, they at least have the posibility for a
sequel...maybe I am wierd, but I liked it.
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From: mvcy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: The Battle of the Planets
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:42:47 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <p5gm0a_.akuma@netcom.com>,
akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes) writes: 
> 
> There are at least 20 of the Japanese episodes available on tape.  
> For the rich, there exists a limited-edition laser disc set with all 
> the episodes.  There is also a "movie" version, with footage of the
> episodes spliced together.
> 
> The Japanese also made two (inferior) sequels to Gatchaman:  
> Gatchaman II and Gatchaman Fighter.
> 
> By the way, one of the questions at the AnimeExpo game show was
> to name the five members of Gatchaman.  None of the contestants
> knew.  But I did!  "Mark" = Ken, "Jason" = Joe, "Princess" = Jun,
> "Cheops" = Jinpei, something lame like "Chunky" = Ryuu.
> 
> "Bird go!" 
> -steve

Most impressive.  I haven't read any anime mags for ages so I'll have to go
from memory.  I do remember that in the original, Professor Nambu (or was it
Doctor?) used to say "Gather, God-Phoenix hassin seyo."  Then the team would
reply "Roger!"  I didn't speak English then so I had no idea what "Gather"
and "Roger" meant, but it seemed too cool (especially to a kid).

The original pyramidal attack formation was called the "Tatsumaki-fighter"
-Tornado attack.  Personally, I liked the period when they didn't have
much in terms of weaponry (except for bird missile and kagaku ninpo hi no tori
).  When they enhanced all the mechs, it got to be too much of blasting
show.

The series finale was a two part show revolving around Joe (I think this was
made into a movie?) and was rather well done I think.

satoshi amagai
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Lip-sync (Was Re: Carl's theatrical "subtitling")
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 05:46:04 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <Jul.23.09.00.54.1992.24485@remus.rutgers.edu> pearl@remus.rutgers.edu writes:
 > 
 > >Most anime isn't even in sync in Japanese, so why worry
 > > over it?
 > 
 > The problem is- Although the Japanese don't worry about it, Americans
 > do.  How many times have you seen a commedian poke fun at the lip
 > syncing of the old Japanese monster movies.  (One of the few types of
 > Japanese live action movies to become popular in America).  Now,
 > granted it is harder to lip sync live action then animation, but most
 > Americans really get bothered when lip syncing isn't done well.

But to the extent that LA HERO is doing it with Macross 2 is really
overkill, though. That is more harmful than not doing it at all.

And comedians will always do that. It's the audience that counts, and
the general audience that I know about doesn't care all that much about
synching.

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From: cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows)
Subject: Genesis Climber Mospeada: Is it Available?
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 17:54:32 GMT


Steven Pearl asked if an episode guide to Mospeada was available, and 
what Mospeada stands for.
 
MOSPEADA: Military Operation Soldier Protection EmergencyAviation 
Dive/Drive Auto.  Presumably, it was referring to the Cyclones (that's
what the Robotech RPG's anime notes seem to indicate).

What I would like to know is if any anime trader or company has them
available for sale or trade.  Mospeada was always my favorite portion
of Robotech, and I would love to be able to see what I've been missing.
 
--Chris Meadows

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2)
Subject:  Capricious Orange Road and Dirty Pair's Nanmo
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:27:43 GMT
Keywords: Nanmo

In article <35951@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
> Also, while leafing through Animag 4, I found mention of a "sequel"
> called Capricious Orange Road.  What's the story here?  How 'bout a
> synop?  Does it continue from KOR 47-48, or is it yet another
> "parallel universe" of the KOR world?

"Capricious" is one way to translate "kigumare".  I think they were
announcing the KOR OVAs.  That ANIMAG #4 was announcing
this as an upcoming release just goes to show you how long ago it came out.

And in another posting:
> So, I'm scanning through Animag's synops for the DP TV eps, and I come
> across the name:  Nanmo.  Now, I don't remember seeing that name in
> Takachiho's book, nor in the OAV synops.  Who (or what) is Nanmo?
> What is his position in the WWWA?

Cute robot sidekick, 1st class.  :-)

Nanmo was the Pair's robot in the TV series (and AFFAIR OF NOLANDIA).
He could fly the LOVELY ANGEL by himself, and could communicate with the
Pair via their earring-communicators.  More than anything, it reminds me
of R2D2 from STAR WARS (has a "data interface" probe, talks in beeps, chirps
and sqeals, and an attitude).  Nanmo has saved the DP several times now.

> Also, did Tsukasa Dokite also do the character designs for the TV series?

Dunno.  Anyone?

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From: Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Dancing Anime Fans
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:57:00 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU

Alex Dillard of Austin ("Don't worry--it's not a big college town") has
reminded me that "Hot Dance In Cherry Moon" would make an excellent
addition to the Anime Disco Inferno playlist. Somehow, I knew the Texans
would be the first to get off their ass. It must be all that Pace
picante sauce.

So we now have:

"Hot Dance In Cherry Moon" from DOMINION
"Night Of Summer Side" from KIMAGURE ORANGE ROAD
"Go Go Heaven" from CITY HUNTER
"Konya wa Hurricane" from BUBBLE GUM CRISIS
"Get Wild" from CITY HUNTER
"Ro-Ro-Ro-Russian Roulette" from DIRTY PAIR
"Lupin III '80" from LUPIN III

Now I want to add another, "Mystery Zone," the first and best cut from
the soundtrack of the Dirty Pair Movie, also known as "Project Eden."
It's an instrumental, and it's better than 95% of the Sprockets-esque
material being served up in clubs these days (It's often a bad sign for
a soundtrack when the first track is the best...)

Okay, what next?
From: lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Benoy Koshy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gundam Sentinel?
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 00:05:49 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

deitrich@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dave Deitrich) writes:

> Hi, All!
> 
> Quick question: what exactly is "Gundam Sentinel?"  There's a whole section o
> it in the Mobile Suit Guide, but until recently I thought it was just some
> artist having fun.
> 
> Then I saw some "Sentinel" models in a local model store, and more recently 
> read some posts mentioning "Sentinel" on the net (don't remember from who),
> so I'm not really sure what it is any more.  Is it a rare series?  Is it 
> manga?  Is it a plot by my fellow officers to mess with my mind?? ;) ;)
> 
> Thanks much in advance!
 
Probably artists having fun and more importantly so Bandai can make
more models to support their empire.  The more models they have the
more they can sell and the Gundam Sentinels is a way they can do such.
What they've done is written a bunch of novels/blurbs about the Sentinel 
Universe (apparently Tomino has now allowed the Sentinel universe into
the real Gundam continuity, not that that matters much after the huge 
continuity errors in Gundam 0080/0083).  There is no anime for the 
Sentinels just a whole bunch of over-powered, over-armoured, 
super-dimensional suits...

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From: Carl_Horn@library.tmc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Go otaku yourself
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:47:00 GMT
To: anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
Cc: carlh@library.tmc.edu

Anyone who tries to condemn the otaku by using "Otaku no Video" has
missed the point of this "documentary," or, putting it more elegantly,
they have their head up their ass.

Americans will not perceive anime in the same way Japanese do, and why
should they? We are going to buy it, watch it, promote and redefine it
in our own way, and anime will achieve a different kind of success--
perhaps a better one--than it has in Japan. We are taking a product from
a very different culture into our own. We will pick and choose what we
like out of anime (the Chibi Maruko-chan and Doraemon fans failed to
turn out in force at AnimExpo). And we will decide what we mean by
"otaku." We certainly aren't bound by Japanese perceptions of anime.
Don't forget that we have to destroy preconceived notions that come from
*both* sides of the Pacific.

Um, by the way, is the real issue, as it often is, sex? The fact that
anime is charged with the stuff, and that fact helps to draw new fans
into it and keep the old ones there? Well, all that is true. And it's
also true that feature writers will go straight for the anime porno.
When people talk about Ralph Bakshi's films, they mention "Fritz The
Cat" foremost, even though it's twenty years old and he's made a few
more since then...But so what? Saa, ne? All media in this country tries
to be erotic: even the New York Times has its lingerie ads. Sex makes
the headlines, it makes stars, and, if you're not discreet, it makes
palimony suits. Why should anime be any different?

Maybe all this otaku debate represents the "take off" stage that anime
has reached in this country; where the fun of being tribal at a
covention clashes with the need to otakuize the world. Well, from these
tensions come revolution.

--Carl Horn

"ROBOTECH TO THE RESCUE!"

         --a misstep c. 1986.

EFIL4ZUKATO
From: pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: VP Miyu LD
Date: 26 Jul 92 01:32:10 GMT
Organization: the Worlds Welfare Work Association, Rutgers Anime division

In article <5094@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ST102272@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Young Su) writes:

> One question though.  In the scene where Himiko faces the "demon" in the
> armor, she draws her ceremonial sword to ward it off.  When that fails, she
> comments that it doesn't work like it does in the manga.  OK, I know that
> she says manga - but why was the word translated into "comics"?  Spiritual
> source guides generally don't appear in "comics" (well at least not in the US).


Hmmm.... I thought that according to "Zen and the art of AnimEigo
translating", that no word was to remain in japanese.

My disk is on order from Sight & Sound.  I can't wait to get it!!!!

Steve
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