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From: greg@donald.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: hard drive mounting
Reply-To: greg@pomona.claremont.edu
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:29:14 GMT

Okay.  We finally bought a reasonable size external SCSI disk to supplement
the little 105 that came with our NeXTstation.  We installed NextStep on it
and are now booting from it.  So far, so good.

Now I would like to reuse the 105 for something else.  I have several ideas,
but they all require that the disk mount into the Unix filesystem somewhere
other than at the / level.  Basically, I would like to override whatever is
automatically mounting the sucker as /diskname and mount it somewhere else
like I would do with any other Unix system.

If this is in a FAQ file somewhere, or in the NextStep 2.x manuals (we don't
have the 3.0 docs yet, just the OS), by all means please just point me in
the right direction.  Otherwise, if someone could be kind enough to tell me
how to do this via e-mail, I will be happy to summarize to the group.

Thanks.

--
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Seaver Academic Computing Services
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From: crs@crs-sys.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Gregors)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Novell netware filesystems
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:57:50 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Confusion Control

Is it possible to publish the Next volume as a netware accessable filesystem
using the stock configuration or am I dreaming?

ie: access Next files from a Novell workstation. The opposite of accessing
    a Novell fileserver from the Next.

<crs>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: NeXTs running 3.0 *probably* cannot swap to a raw partition
To: barry@ictv.com (Barry Lustig)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:32:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.195003.6023@ictv.com> barry@ictv.com (Barry Lustig) writes:
     There has been speculation recently about whether a NeXT can swap to
   a raw partition or not.  I decided to do a little research on this
   point and found out that you cannot.  The reason for this should be
   clear from the following:

       Current directory is /
       Reading symbol data from sdmach...
       (no debugging symbols found)...done.
       (gdb) disassemble swapon
       Dump of assembler code for function swapon:
       0x4068288 <swapon>:	rts
       End of assembler dump.
       (gdb) 

   NeXT removed the code for the swapon system call from the kernel.
   They would have made life a lot easier for people if they also removed
   the call from the system library.

Not quite so fast. All you found out that the BSD system call to
enable swaping is a dummy call. From that one might conclude that the
NeXT can not swap at all just as quickly as that it can not swap to a
raw partition.  Fortunately that is not so as virtual memory is one of
the system services which is provided by Mach through the mach_swapon
system call and not BSD on a NeXT. And mach_swapon is _not_ a dummy
call. Careful analysis of this call and its subroutines might reveal
that indeed it is impossible to swap to a raw partition (as I believe
it is). This analysis is left as an exercise to the reader.

        Carl Edman
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tito@di.unipi.it (Tito Flagella)
Subject: FAQ?
Organization: Dipartimento di Informatica, Universita' di Pisa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:55:40 GMT

I have to integrate a couple of new NextStation in the Campus network.
I have seen that handling next is not so simple like a real Unix. It seems to be
an interface layer between Unix and Next. For instance when I introduce a local
user no change is made to passwd, but when I manually edit passwd, the user is
recognized. How is it possible?
I also need to shadow password on the nextstation, but no option to do that is
in the manual. And finally, the next cannot print to the apple printers on
ethernet, because of some errors in the postscript.
Is there a FAQ to which I can refere to do the job? Anybody had my same
difficulties, and overall is there a way to make Next a normal Unix sensible
to modifications to standard configuration files?
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 3.0 Upgrades
Date: 28 Jan 1993 19:00:26 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: sears@uh.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: thanatos.egr.uh.edu

In article <cfNjch200YUn0=N29f@andrew.cmu.edu>  writes:
#Given a large netinfo network, is there any reason to upgrade all the
#netinfo client machines to NeXTStep 3.0 before the netinfo server is
#upgraded?  We'd like to upgrade our netinfo server to 3.0, but have
#heard that for certain reasons this might not be a good idea.
#
#Anyone know what these reasons are?
#
#Thanks

We upgraded out servers (two of them) to NS3.0 before our clients.  This  
seemed logical and worked without a hitch....


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From: pkron@corona.wa.com (Peter Kron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Great book on NFS Sysadmin
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 06:05:59 PDT
Organization: Corona Design, Inc., Seattle, WA
Reply-To: pkron@corona.wa.com

> From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
> Message-ID: <C19JBD.n21@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
>
> CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson) writes:
> 
> >I just ran across a book that I wish I had seen much earlier.  It not only
> >describes how NFS works, but is loaded with diagnostic and problem-solving
> >tips.  The NIS material if not useful at least makes me feel more
> >appreciative of NetInfo.  The book is:
> > 
> >_Managing_NFS_and_NIS_, by Hal Stern, O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.  Copyright
> >1991, reprinted April 1992 with minor corrections.  ISBN 0-937175-75-7.
> 
> I have this book and highly recommend it as well, but I read in OS
> Today recently that he is going to issue a new edition sometime this
> year that will cover NIS+.  No big deal to most NeXT people but if
> you have to manage (gag) Solaris systems, be on the lookout for it.

I haven't seen this book, but have several others in the O'Reilly series,
(with a few more on the wish list). I recommend them all. Anyone new
to UNIX (or just mystified) should check them out.
---------------
Peter Kron
Corona Design, Inc.
Peter_Kron@corona.wa.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: Why won't my Next print to Sun printer?
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:33:07 GMT

I can print to other nexts with no problem, and even to a gatorbox.
But when I try to print to a sun, the file just sits in the queue in the
"active" slot.  The sun's local printer error log says:

ps: %%[ Error: timeout; OffendingCommand: timeout ]%%

Any ideas?  Here's the next's printcap:
chicone: \
        :note=Chicone Laserwriter:ty=LaserWriter Plus:rp=lw:lp=:rm=chicone: \
        :lo=lock:sd=/usr/spool/NeXT/chicone:

Thanks for any help!
Rich
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Greg Johnson)
Subject: Great book on NFS Sysadmin
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 08:30:17 CST

I just ran across a book that I wish I had seen much earlier.  It not only
describes how NFS works, but is loaded with diagnostic and problem-solving
tips.  The NIS material if not useful at least makes me feel more
appreciative of NetInfo.  The book is:
 
_Managing_NFS_and_NIS_, by Hal Stern, O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.  Copyright
1991, reprinted April 1992 with minor corrections.  ISBN 0-937175-75-7.
 
This 436-page paperback cost around $28.  This & other O'Reilly books I
highly recommend for Unix Sysadmins.
Organization: Sponsored account, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:01:48 -0500 
From: David Apfelbaum <da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Boot option question?


Does anyone out there know the boot option to enable the "pretty
graphics" during booting (instead of all the useful bootup information)?
  (I have a friend who doesn't appreciate the information as much as I
do... ;-)


I assume it's a boot-option stored in the non-volatile memory, as
changing the mother-board resets it.

Alternatively, does anyone have a man page for fbshow?


Thanks,
    -David.
     da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu
From: ruppert@next1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de (Michael Ruppert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: problems with remote printing
Date: 25 Jan 1993 10:49:47 GMT
Organization: InterNetNews at News.BelWue.DE (Stuttgart, Germany)
NNTP-Posting-Host: next1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de

Hi,
I  m having a big problem with an IBM 4019E PS printer. I need to access  
this device across the ethernet and the risc6000 computer.
neither nis or netinfo is being used.  the problem is
that no file gets printed and there is no error message on the next.
Note: I am using a NeXT cube color with NS 3.0.
Any ideas?

Michael Ruppert
ruppert@next1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de
From: asauerbi@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Arnim Sauerbier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Display PostScript Book
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:49:40 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I found the book to be poorly organized (multiple authors), thus, hard to
use as a reference.  It was the only reference I used to write some
screen-savers (I'll put em up on an ftp site -- when I'm satisfied with em!)
so It certainly did the job for me...
arnim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: barry@ictv.com (Barry Lustig)
Subject: Re: NeXTs running 3.0 *probably* cannot swap to a raw partition
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:44:20 GMT

In article <CEDMAN.93Jan21153237@capitalist.princeton.edu> cedman@princeton.edu (Carl Edman) writes:
	Not quite so fast. All you found out that the BSD system call to
	enable swaping is a dummy call. From that one might conclude that the
	NeXT can not swap at all just as quickly as that it can not swap to a
	raw partition.  Fortunately that is not so as virtual memory is one of
	the system services which is provided by Mach through the mach_swapon
	system call and not BSD on a NeXT. And mach_swapon is _not_ a dummy
	call. Careful analysis of this call and its subroutines might reveal
	that indeed it is impossible to swap to a raw partition (as I believe
	it is). This analysis is left as an exercise to the reader.
	
	        Carl Edman


  As I mentioned to Carl in a mail message, I did look at mach_swapon
as well.  As far as I can tell, mach_swapon uses the vnode pager code.
This provides for paging to a file, not to a raw device.  

  One can also look at the virtual memory sub-system of 386bsd or
Berkeley net-2.  Both of them use the mach virtual memory system.

barry
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From: da0g+@andrew.cmu.edu (David Apfelbaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: Boot option question?
Date: 23 Jan 93 11:59:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sfMPz_G00WA7AZyg5A
Organization: Sponsored account, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Thank you all!

The correct answer was to use the 'p' command in the ROM monitor mode
and disable the "verbose boot" option.


Thanks again for that quick response....


    -David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: Slip and -NXHost
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:50:36 GMT

In article <C1H53I.LuF@oceania.com> Kambiz Aghaiepour <kambiz@oceania.com>  
writes:
>>
>>I am having trouble -NXHost'ing an application from a client machine that is
>>connected to my network via slip.  (Yeah, I've heard it's really slow and
>>not worth the trouble; but I enjoy pain!)
>>
>>I have Louis A. Mamakos' slip.  And the two machine that are connected are
>>both running 3.0 (one is a cube, the other a nextstation turbo).  When I 
>>start any application with the -NXHost option, e.g.
>>
>>  /NextApps/Terminal.app/Terminal -NXHost slipserver &
>>
>>I get the following familiar message:
>>
>>  DPS client library error: Could not form connection, host slipserver
>>
>>I have set the preferences (on slipserver) to be a public window server
>>and I have logged out and back in since changing the prefs.  I must be  
missing
>>something really obvious.  Has anyone ever tried to do this before?  Any help
>>is greatly appreciated.

The window server on the machine you want to display needs to be public, not  
the server (remote) machine.

At lease that's my understanding...

--
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Advanced Micro Devices
CAM Applications Group
rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (NeXTmail preferred)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: zeke@znext.cts.com (james dehnert)
Subject: Back to 2.0 ?
Reply-To: zeke@znext.cts.com
Organization: pnet
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:17:01 GMT

  When I installed 3.0 all seemed well, but my system has been getting  
progressivley less and less stable.  My system crashes about once a day,  
and that's only because I'm not around to reboot it more often.
  I'm contemplating re-installing from a totally clean disk and, arghhhhhh
re compiling all the local software I have.  No small effort.  I have sent  
mail to nest asking if there is some kind of debugging tool that will  
allow me to trace the cause of these crashes, but the only response I got  
was a letter telling me I could pay for service if I liked.
  Does anyone know what I could use to discober the cause of these  
crashes?

  Zeke
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From: matthews@oberon.umd.edu (Mike Matthews)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: NetInfo authentication
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:06:55 GMT
Reply-To: matthews@oberon.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, MD

Does anyone have any ideas as to why I'm getting authentication errors when
trying to edit data served by another machine, when that domain's root
password is empty (it isn't always empty, just testing)?

Here's the exact situation.  Voyager is our two level NetInfo server, so it
serves / and /voyager.  (It's a NeXTcube, this is all NeXTstep 3.0.)
Pioneer, a color station, serves /pioneer.

Pioneer can not authenticate itself to / or /voyager.  It just can't.  At
first I thought it was some sort of trusted_networks glitch, but we don't use
trusted_networks.  Then I thought it might've been a machine/IP
address/ethernet address mismatch, but all the relevant data seemed fine.

Heck, I'm stumped on this one.  Anyone else have any ideas?
------
Mike Matthews, matthews@oberon.umd.edu (NeXTmail accepted)
------
One of the saddest lessons of history is this:  If we've been bamboozled
long enough, we tend to reject any evidence of the bamboozle.  We're no
longer interested in finding out the truth.  The bamboozle has captured
us.  it is simply too painful to acknowledge -- even to ourselves -- that
we've been so credulous.  (So the old bamboozles tend to persist as the
new bamboozles rise.)
-- Carl Sagan, "The Fine Art of Baloney Detection," Parade, February 1, 1987
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: Novell netware filesystems
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:56:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.015750.21901@crs-sys.uucp> crs@crs-sys.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Gregors) writes:
>Is it possible to publish the Next volume as a netware accessable filesystem
>using the stock configuration or am I dreaming?
>
>ie: access Next files from a Novell workstation. The opposite of accessing
>    a Novell fileserver from the Next.

You can't make your NeXT into a NetWare server, but if you NFS export
your NeXT volumes, you can mount them with NFS software on the PC.

I've never done it, though.


andrew
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld)
Subject: Installing off CD ROM in a non-default directory
Organization: Cleveland State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:17:03 GMT

Is there an easier way to install NextCD software packages off the CD-ROM
for installing NS 3.0 and be able to place the programs in a place other
than ("/") the root, aside from copying the relevant software
installer.pkg into a writable disk and directory and then changing the
file_to_install.info file so that it allows you to install in a
user-selectable space? 

Thanks,
Joe


| Joe Rosenfeld			  cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu
| CSU Law Library                joer@inca.law.csuohio.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bwild@fzi.de
Subject: Re: CAP under NeXTstep 3.0
Reply-To: bwild@fzi.de
Organization: FZI Forschungszentrum Informatik, Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:35:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.182909.24681@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu  
(Dirk Herr-Hoyman) writes:
> Could you explain how you have your Next and your AppleTalk network  
connected?   
> If Ethertalk is not supported, I am not clear as to how this is done.
> 
> Also, do you know if anyone is working to bring up Ethertalk?  
> 

All Macs are grouped together to LocalTalk clusters, typically 5 to 10 Macs per  
cluster. In every cluster a Kinetics FastPath is running which is hooked  
directly to our Ethernet backbone. The FP serves 
*	as a bridge between different LocalTalk clusters, thus connecting them
	together logically (i.e. the user doesn't see the Ethernet part)
*	as a gateway for MacTCP packages. These are Internet packages wrapped
	in AppleTalk packages. The FP removes the wrapper and sends them to the
	Ethernet as plain Internet packages and vice versa.
*	as a bridge for EtherTalk packages as they can be send by
	Ethernet-equipped Macs. But, the other Ethernet hosts like Suns or
	NeXTs have to understand the EtherTalk protocol. Up to now NeXT has only
	built in the AppleTalk protocol. EtherTalk is supported on some 
	platforms by CAP but not on NeXT. 

To answer your last question, I don't know. But with the distribution of NeXTs  
on university campuses I think it's only a matter of time when this will be  
available.

Bernd Wild

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Forschungszentrum Informatik FZI
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Subject: NeXT printer problem: reverse print order
Reply-To: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca
Organization: Prodigy Technologies Corp.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:04:59 GMT

Hello folks,

The hardworking NeXT Laser Printer at our site generously provides print  
services to a few less fortunate Sun Sparcstations and servers. Everything  
works fine except that the NLP has a nasty habit of reversing the page  
order of the output pages. I seem to recall someone posting a fix to that  
problem quite a while ago. Can one of you kind souls dig up that solution  
or propose any others that may alleviate this minor but increasingly  
annoying problem?

Thanks.

Joe

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Using NeXT's and VAX/VMS systems
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:52:34 GMT

A local user is thinking of buying some NeXT's to augment the work they  
already do on some Vax's running VMS.  Most of the data they have is  
currently on the VMS systems, and he was wondering how easy it is for NeXT's  
and VMS systems to share data.  Does VMS support NFS, for instance?  Are the  
line-ending characters the same in VMS as they are in Unix/NeXT land?

He asked me, and since I have never worked with a VMS system I figured I'd  
ask the net.  For anyone who is using NeXT's with VMS systems, how well do  
they work together?  I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has done this  
already.  Either reply to me (email) or just follow-up.  I'll summarize what  
email messages I receive.

Thanks.

--
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ITS Systems Programmer            (handles NeXT-type mail)
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Subject: Re: CAP under NeXTstep 3.0
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext1.amd.com
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:45:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.093530.15705@fzi.de> bwild@fzi.de writes:
>>In article <1993Jan25.182909.24681@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>  
hoymand@wissago.wisc.edu  
>>(Dirk Herr-Hoyman) writes:
>>> Could you explain how you have your Next and your AppleTalk network  
>>connected?   
>>> If Ethertalk is not supported, I am not clear as to how this is done.
>>> 
>>> Also, do you know if anyone is working to bring up Ethertalk?  
>>> 
>>
>>All Macs are grouped together to LocalTalk clusters, typically 5 to 10 Macs  
per  
>>cluster. In every cluster a Kinetics FastPath is running which is hooked  
>>directly to our Ethernet backbone. The FP serves 
>>*	as a bridge between different LocalTalk clusters, thus connecting them
>>	together logically (i.e. the user doesn't see the Ethernet part)
>>*	as a gateway for MacTCP packages. These are Internet packages wrapped
>>	in AppleTalk packages. The FP removes the wrapper and sends them to the
>>	Ethernet as plain Internet packages and vice versa.
>>*	as a bridge for EtherTalk packages as they can be send by
>>	Ethernet-equipped Macs. But, the other Ethernet hosts like Suns or
>>	NeXTs have to understand the EtherTalk protocol. Up to now NeXT has  
only
>>	built in the AppleTalk protocol. EtherTalk is supported on some 
>>	platforms by CAP but not on NeXT. 

I thought it was just the opposite...that NeXT only implemented the ethertalk  
client and not the appletalk client.

Someone who really knows please clarify!!!

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