From: willday@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (The Eye of Fatima)
Subject: Re: Camper van Beethoven spinoffs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:22:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.163641.28218@tamsun.tamu.edu> news@tamsun.tamu.edu (Read News) writes:
>monks of doom is (right, i can never remember this) all the other
>campers from the last couple cvb albums but not morgan fichter (k.l.p's
>violinist) and not johnathan segel (former violinist) either,
>though he played on mod's "meridian." plus two other members.

Okay the main lineup seems to be: 
Campers:
		Victor Krummenacher (bass, vocals, piano)
		Greg Lisher (guitars, piano, vocals)
		Chris Pedersen (drums, percussion, vocals)
Plus:
		David Immergluck (guitars, vocals, piano)

>mod has at least 3 albums, which are:
>soundtrack to the film _breakfast onthe beach of deception_
>cosmodemonic telegraph co (ok this isn't right but i can't remember it)
>meridian (which is much easier to remember)
>does anyone know of any others?

I just recently saw a new one in record stores here entitled
"Forgery", but I haven't the funds free yet to grab it.  It has a
sticker on the front that says "The OTHER ex-CamperVanBeethoven band".
:)

The Monks also played on Jonathan Segel's album "Storytelling",
whose only saving graces were the instrumental selections.  I
simply cannot stand Segel's singing - I don't know who's worse, him
or Eugene Chadbourne...  Makes me wonder why I bought Segel's new
Hieronymus Firebrain CD - anyone want to take this off my hands??
-cheap! :)

>mod is more instrumental, further "out there" and more like cvb's 2nd
>and 3rd albums, imho.  they are excellent musicians and i like them
>very much; very complex arrangements with strange lyrics.

The Monks basically cover the funky music end of the Campers' style,
while Cracker took most of the lyrical talent.  I say most because
Cracker's songs just aren't as funny and twisted as Campers' were.

>yes, cvb released a number of other albums besides the two you mentioned.
>they are the only virgin label releases though.  other albums include
>
>telephone free landslide victory
>camper van beethoven
>II and III
>vampire can mating oven (an ep)
>    plus they have released albums with eugene chadbourne
>(camper van chadbourne)
>
>i *know* they must have other albums--does anyone have them?

I think you've got them all covered, unfortunately - I wish there
were more.  There's a very nice discography available by ftp from 
cs.uwp.edu (131.2101.4) in /pub/music/discog/campers.  It includes
all the solo and misc works by the band members.

Incidentally, has anyone been able to find the older material on
CD??  I was lucky to find the "CVB" album (aka "The Third Album")
in a Turtles last year, and II&III in a little record store at home
- but I believe those along with Telephone Free and Cosmodemonic
are out of print due to Rough Trade's collapse.  

..will
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