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From: marti@django.Colorado.EDU (Al Marti)
Subject: Re: Need help with gopher and WAIS
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:31:10 GMT

In article <7574@lib.tmc.edu> ems@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (Eric Sisson) writes:
>Greetings,
>
>I need net.help getting gopher and WAIS to work together.
>
>Setup:  Sun SPARCstation IPC, SunOS 4.1.1 rev. B
>        wais-8-b5
>        gopher 1.03
>
>gopher SERVERDATA = /home/jackalope/gopher-data
>
>files in SERVERDATA -- .cap .waisdata waisindex
>
>file ".cap/waisindex" -- Name=WAIS test (mail)
>                         Type=7
>                         Path=7/waisindex/index
>                         Host=jackalope.uth.tmc.edu
>                         Port=70
>
>Directory ".waisdata" contains a file of mail messages, and
>directory "waisindex" contains the files created by "waisindex"-ing
>that file.  When I run the gopher client pointed at this host,
>I see the line item "WAIS test (mail) <?>".  When I hit the <return>
>key for that item, I get the prompt "Index word(s) to search for:".
>For anything I type, I get the response
>     Nothing available.  <press RETURN>
>However, if I go to the directory "waisindex" and enter
>     waissearch -d index help
>I get plenty of output.  So far, I have been unable to figure out
>why I cannot get gopher to give me the response I expect.
>
>Will someone please point out the error of my ways?
>Thanks in advance.
>-- 
>Eric M. Sisson                         Internet:  ems@jackalope.uth.tmc.edu
>Programmer Analyst III                                  voice: 713-792-6466
>Department of Academic Computing - Box 549              fax:   713-794-5072
>The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center


i am having the exact same problem with the following setup:

	DecStation 5000/240  Ultrix 4.2a
        wais-8-b4
        gopher 1.0

when i run the server in debug mode and try to do a search i see the following
"Dangling File"  messages:

Index type is 1
IndexPath: /usr/local/lib/gopher
After finished_search
0: 0: Oct 16 11:16:58 1992: -2: Dangling File /ucsu/usr/lib/gopher/About CU Gopher..../CU Gopher in database ./index.
0: 1: Oct 16 11:16:58 1992: -2: Dangling File /ucsu/usr/lib/gopher/About CU Gopher..../.Link in database ./index.
Fri Oct 16 11:16:58 1992 4875 128.138.129.83 : search /About CU Gopher..../.index/index for gopher

i am currently building wais-8-b5 and gopher 1.03 to see if i have the same 
problems at that level.

thanks for any help you can offer.

-al marti
cns large systems
university of colorado, boulder
marti@spot.Colorado.EDU
From: wayman@abq.bdm.com (Brian Wayman)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Gopher ftp sites
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:45:05 GMT
Followup-To: alt.gopher
Organization: BDM International, Inc.

How difficult is it for ftp sites like ftp.apple.com to add support for
gopher and who would I contact about getting them to set it up? Thanks!
Xref: sparky alt.gopher:1308 comp.infosystems.gopher:672
From: dave@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dave Rasmussen)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher,comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Hung server connection - help
Date: 9 Oct 1992 21:07:09 GMT
Organization: UW-Milwaukee Computing Services Division
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.40
Originator: dave@opus.csd.uwm.edu


I am a bit confused. The gopherd died on me last week, leaving a core
dump which I haven't examined really closely yet. I'm running this on
an ultrix 4.2a based DEC 5000/240. When I go to restart it though it
fails off again. I did a netstat -n and get the following:

tcp        0    186  129.89.8.4.70          140.184.142.8.2743     CLOSING

I have seen similar situations in other software where some client had
a connection to a server which was closing and the server wouldn't be
able to restart again. I noticed the problem would cease on a system reboot
but I don't have that luxury, the system we're on now being used by many 
people.

Any IP gurus out there know what I'm talking about and have a suggestion
to close off this socket or whatever?


-- 
Dave Rasmussen - SysAdm/Hacker/Consulting Manager, UWM Computing Svcs Div.
Internet:dave@uwm.edu, Uucp:uwm!dave, Bitnet:dave%uwm.edu@INTERBIT
AT&T:414-229-5133 USmail:Box 413 EMS380,Milwaukee,WI 53201
From: sna@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: HELP with TurboGopher Client -Manual??
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:13:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


 
Xref: sparky alt.gopher:1312 comp.infosystems.gopher:712
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher,comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: Help With TurboGopher Client -Manual???#2
Date: 13 Oct 1992 17:40:37 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

sna@prophet.pharm.pitt.edu wrote:
: 
: (3)  How can I use gopher to go to a specific FTP site (like the Mac FTP
: program fetch)?  Or can I  only go to gopher servers, and not ANY  FTP site
: that my heart desires?

it would be easy enough for servers to prompt for a site to connect to and
then transport you there, however, i don't know who has done that work.

in the interim, the gopher at gopher.uiuc.edu has a 'peruse ftp sites'
directory that has a lot of links to a lot of sites, which looks like it
might be quite helpful.

from what i've heard of Fetch it's nicer than gopher vis-a-vis ftp'ing. 
(don't use either myself, i've taken the internet wilderness society
pledge to stick to vt100 clients)

--Ed

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 4562
From: ems@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (Eric Sisson)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Need help with gopher and WAIS
Date: 16 Oct 1992 16:13:07 GMT
Organization: University of Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center
Originator: ems@odin

Greetings,

I need net.help getting gopher and WAIS to work together.

Setup:  Sun SPARCstation IPC, SunOS 4.1.1 rev. B
        wais-8-b5
        gopher 1.03

gopher SERVERDATA = /home/jackalope/gopher-data

files in SERVERDATA -- .cap .waisdata waisindex

file ".cap/waisindex" -- Name=WAIS test (mail)
                         Type=7
                         Path=7/waisindex/index
                         Host=jackalope.uth.tmc.edu
                         Port=70

Directory ".waisdata" contains a file of mail messages, and
directory "waisindex" contains the files created by "waisindex"-ing
that file.  When I run the gopher client pointed at this host,
I see the line item "WAIS test (mail) <?>".  When I hit the <return>
key for that item, I get the prompt "Index word(s) to search for:".
For anything I type, I get the response
     Nothing available.  <press RETURN>
However, if I go to the directory "waisindex" and enter
     waissearch -d index help
I get plenty of output.  So far, I have been unable to figure out
why I cannot get gopher to give me the response I expect.

Will someone please point out the error of my ways?
Thanks in advance.
-- 
Eric M. Sisson                         Internet:  ems@jackalope.uth.tmc.edu
Programmer Analyst III                                  voice: 713-792-6466
Department of Academic Computing - Box 549              fax:   713-794-5072
The University of Texas M. D. Anderson Cancer Center
From: lindner@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Re: long client startup
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:15:26 GMT
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.gopher
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis

In <1ad585INNnq6@uwm.edu> dave@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (David A Rasmussen) writes:


>I've been dinking around with a server here on csd4.csd.uwm.edu, but notice
>lately that it takes *forever* (minutes) for the top menu to appear. I am
>running the 1.02 versions of the unix software.

>Does anyone have any idea what is going on perhaps? 

It could be that the server you're running isn't closing the
connection properly.  Test it with telnet:

telnet servername 70

and see if the connection closes automatically.
--
 | Paul Lindner | lindner@boombox.micro.umn.edu   | Slipping into madness
 |              | Computer & Information Services | is good for the sake
 | Gophermaster | University of Minnesota         | of comparision.
///// / / /    /////// / / / /  /  /  /   /      //// / / / /  /  /  /   /
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: stanjm02@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Arrow Rest
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:40:20 GMT

Can anybody shed some light on the question 
"Should there be any contact of fletches and arrow rest when shooting an arrow?"

My problem is this. My bottom fletch has developed a scratch mark were my
rest rubbs against it during arrow flight. I understand that this should
not be the case. I shoot barebow, finger release and was told by my dealer
that the rest should not be hitting the bottom fletch. I use the "Super-Flyte"
and he suggest tilting the rest ant an angle so as to let arrow fletch pass
through the rest without contact. I am not really convince that this is the
answer. My scores have been pretty much average. Can anybody who use the
Super-Flyte rest help resolve this matter?

Thanks.
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:58:52 GMT
Subject: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.archery

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From: edwin@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Edwin Chung)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Re: Arrow Rest
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:15:50 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.

stanjm02@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:

>Can anybody shed some light on the question 
>"Should there be any contact of fletches and arrow rest when shooting an arrow?"
No if you can avoid it.

>My problem is this. My bottom fletch has developed a scratch mark were my
>rest rubbs against it during arrow flight. I understand that this should
>not be the case. I shoot barebow, finger release and was told by my dealer
>that the rest should not be hitting the bottom fletch. I use the "Super-Flyte"
>and he suggest tilting the rest ant an angle so as to let arrow fletch pass
>through the rest without contact. I am not really convince that this is the
>answer. My scores have been pretty much average. Can anybody who use the
>Super-Flyte rest help resolve this matter?
I don't use a Super-Flyte, but something you might want to try is to set
your nock at a slightly different angle to what you have now.  Let me
explain.

Assuming you are shooting right handed; if the rest touches the lower
fletching, try setting your nock slightly anti-clockwise (looking from
the back of the arrow) of what you have now.  That is, giving more
clearance from the lower fletching to the rest.  Powder test it and make
further adjustment if necessary until you find the best nock setting
where fletching/rest contact is totally remove or minimal.

BTW, the above "tuning" can be done with the nock only tightly screwed
into the arrow, and to avoid dry firing your bow make sure that the nock
is firmly located on the arrow before you shoot it during the powder
test.

Good luck and let me know how it goes.
Edwin (edwin@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au)

>Thanks.
From: dsleeper@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (DON SLEEPER)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: CARBON ARROWS VS ALUMINUM
Date: 14 Oct 1992 20:47:33 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
Reply-To: dsleeper@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: oavax.csuchico.edu

Newsgroups: alt.archery

From: ins769v@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Veltyen)
Subject: Re: CARBON ARROWS
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

DON SLEEPER (dsleeper@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU) wrote:
: 
:     can build a dozen carbons for $60.00, about twice the cost of
:     aluminum.  But the carbons will last 4 to 1, vs aluminum.  It takes
:     5 pounds of pressure to bend an aluminum arrow and 28 pounds to
:     break a carbon (shatter).  Carbons do not bend.  

>Yes but you can <nearly> always bend the aluminum back. The only time
>I have seen a aluminum arrow shatter, or even break badly, is from
>a 65# compound into a brick wall 30m away. A shattered carbon has no
>possibility of reusing the shaft. BTW the alum' I was using were target
>arrows (1916's) not hunting arrows, which are harder to break.
>Veltyen
----------------------------------------------------------------------
To simplify my reason for using carbon vs aluminum arrows, carbon will 
last longer.  My primary interest is hunting, even thought I shoot indoor
league once a week.  In twenty five years of serious bow hunting, 
from wood to aluminum, I've found carbon will last longer in the field.  
I shoot on the average two big game animals a year, plus numerous 
small game.  I would easily go through two dozen aluminum arrows each year. 
This year is unusual, I've taken four big game animals, two with the 
same carbon arrow and have not broken one (I've lost four).  Back to the
indoor league, I'm not a great shot, I shoot 275 on the average 
for a NAA target (5,4,3,2,1) scored 300 at 20 yards.  But even at 275, 
I'll ding or tube an aluminum arrow once a week, this doesn't happen with
carbon; I've only destroyed nocks and vanes with carbon arrows.  I shoot
a High Country bcomound bow at 75lbs using a 29' arrow, no overdraw.  
My Bemanman carbon arrow weighs 505 grains, with a 125 grain head.

Whatever we all shoot, we are still archers.


***************************************************************************
DON SLEEPER, CALIFORNIA STATE UNIVERSITY, CHICO I PLANT OPERATION
DSLEEPER@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU                     I DEPT 925, CHICO, CA 95929
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:12:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.archery

Oops! My apologies for posting my previous "Please Help" survey to this
group. It was an honest mistake and won't happen again.

Kingsley
Lines: 10
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 14:52:14 MDT
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Re: Longbow Question
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: taylorv@bones.et.byu.edu (Val T. Taylor)

>My question is, since this bow has been in storage in an attic for at
>least 35 years, should it just go on the wall as decoration, or can
>it still be strung and shot?  Would the wood be too old and brittle
>for the tension of a bowstring?  Obviously I do not want to risk breaking
>the bow since it did belong to my wife's father.

I have strung a bow like this myself.  Simply wash the wood, add
a coat of oil, and another coat.  Then, the first few times you shoot it
don't draw it back too far.  Draw it about 6 inches the first time
and work up from there.   
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Carbon Arrows
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:03:20 GMT

 
I was able to go bowhunting last weekend and actually got something -
a deer and a javalina (like a small wild pig).  During the course of
the weekend, I managed to shoot enough so that I am down to only 7
arrows.  I have been thinking about going to carbon arrows and now
would be a good time to switch.  I have been looking in several
catalogs (Cabela's and Gander Mnt.), and have been really impressed
with the ads for Beman arrows (although somewhat dismayed at the
price).  A friend of mine told me he has heard bad things about Beman
arrows (like they shatter).
 
I shoot a 60 lbs.  compound, and might buy a new bow later on, but
don't want to go any higher than about 65 lbs.  Any comments you could
provide would be appreciated.  In particluar, I would like to hear
about :
 
1) general comments about carbon vs. aluminum arrows
   (ie. are they worth it?)
2) lengths of arrows (I shoot a 29" 2117 now).
3) comments about brands of carbon arrows
4) what size (weights) of broadhead/points to use on them.
   (I currently use 125 grain tips)
 
5) do I need any other special equipment?
      (such as rest, fletchings, etc.)
 
Thanks in advance,  (i have a friend that hates that salutation ;-)   )
      ---------------------------------------------------------
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                        |
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From: vader@meryl.csd.uu.se (]ke Eldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Re: CARBON ARROWS
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:14:53
Organization: University of Uppsala, Sweden
	<1992Oct14.052312.9056@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
	<16880D5EA.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: meryl.csd.uu.se
In-reply-to: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu's message of Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:12:40 GMT

Hello all. Chris Barnes wrote:

>Well......I don't believe in bending arrows back (at least not
>severly bent ones).  In that case, I just break them, and toss them
>away.  So the real question here becomes:  will a carbon arrow
>remain usable when the same force is used to BEND an aluminum
>arrow beyond repair?  Actual experiances prefered to hear-say.

In my experience, an aluminum arrow that you _can_ get straight
will perform well. The problem is that it takes many years to
learn how to straighten them properly. I have never noticed
any difference in flight between a new aluminum arrow and one
that has been straightened after being bent.
When an aluminum arrow has been bent or damaged so that you cannot
straighten it, or if it has been dented, then discard it. There is
a point of bending where metal fatigue will set in.
 
Carbon does not bend. It stays okay until it shatters. Examine
your carbon arrows for damage on a regular basis, and don't shoot
an arrow that has been chipped or looks less than perfect. When
they shatter, they can really hurt you.

]ke Eldberg
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: vwulpen@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Henk Van Wulpen)
Subject: Announcement
Organization: Dept. Computerwetenschappen
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:22:39 GMT



A friend asked me to post the following announcement... :

-----

   We are organizing at the end of February 93 the first World
University Archery Games in Belgium, which are the World Champion-
ships for university archers. This organization is patronated by
the FITA and is an organization of the Belgian University Federation.
I address this message especially to the countries which have not sent
an entry form. (Countries already entered : Argentina, Austria, Taipei,
The Phillipines, Belgium, France, Malta, Germany, Great-Britain,
Sweden). There are a few countries which have shown interest but haven't
entered yet (USA, Spain, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, The Netherlands, Canada).
If you're a university archer from one of these countries or from another
country and want to participate, or you want more information, write as
quickly as possible to the WUAG OC Secretary : WUAG, UCL Service des
Sports, Place des Sports 11, B-1348 Louvain-la-Neuve, Belgium or fax
at the following number : 32-10-474501. You cannot reach us through
Netnews because of computer-access problems at the moment. Also contact
your national university sports federation or if you do not have one,
your national archery federation if you are interested. They should have
received all necessary information already. Hoping to see you in Belgium
in the month of February.

                                   Tom Dielen, president of the OC.


-----


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Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: bblohm@boi.hp.com (Bill Blohm)
Subject: Upgrading a Bow
Summary: To do or not to Do?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:43:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Keywords: upgrading, good, bad

I asked this via e-mail and was told it might make a good topic for discussion
on the net.  I am after information as much as anything and hope there are
netters out there who can get this going for those of us who are not that
knowledgeable about the technical aspects of our bows.

The innocent query that prompted this was:  I like my bow and want to keep it
rather than purchasing a new one, at least until my kids are able to pull it
and use it regularly.  Then I get me a new one and they get the old one ;^).
So, while my bow appears pretty well tuned, it is an older bow and uses
eccentric wheels.  The center of the valley is right at the stop which happens
to match my draw length.  The let-off(?) is small compared to the newer bows
so...can I upgrade my bow to, say, eccentric cams that will give me more of
a let-off?  If not, why not?  What about different eccentric wheels?

If it makes any difference (probably does, but the general topic is upgrading
a bow), I have a 4-wheel bow.

OK, you guys....the floor is open for discussion.

Bill

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