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From: dawdy@tellabs.com (Dan Dawdy)
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Date: 21 Aug 92 05:35:15 GMT
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Testing only...
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From: uu0276!jp (Jim Petersen)
Subject: test
Keywords: damnable double .sig
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 21:33:48 GMT

OK, let's see how many .sigs show up (hopefully 0!)
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From: andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann)
Newsgroups: chi.mail
Subject: v32bis access to clout
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 18:50:25 CDT
Distribution: chi
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

   I just found out that I can now get full v32bis access to clout for my
mail feed.  Although the dialin modems are v32bis, the connection used to
go 'dead' when you typed 'tip.'  Now it works.

  If anyone has been forcing their modem to v32 for clout, try opening up
the throttle again.

  I have no idea when this actually changed. I haven't tried it full speed
for several months.

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From: randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess)
Subject: Re: v32bis access to clout
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: chi
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 12:44:29 GMT

In article <qeTiPB2w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann) writes:
>   I just found out that I can now get full v32bis access to clout for my
>mail feed.  Although the dialin modems are v32bis, the connection used to
>go 'dead' when you typed 'tip.'  Now it works.

	I have noticed for a while that the first modem in the hunt sequence
	0975, is generally dead.  I set my dialers to go to 0976, and have
	never had a problem with v.32 or tip.

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From: trivedi@curie.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi)
Subject: Re: Where's good Middle Eastern Food?
Organization: Enrico Fermi Institute, University of Chicago
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 19:24:44 GMT

maxwell@fnalb.fnal.gov writes:

>I'm interested in finding out more about ...Middle Eastern restaurants

[I apologize in advance for not having exact addresses on me but names
are accurate, so you can look them up in a phone book.]

Hyde Park has two Middle Eastern restaurants:

	University Gardens (53rd Street) 
	Nile (55th Street)

Both have their following. Try them and please post a review!


>Middle Eastern Grocery stores...

A good *area* to explore (with a car), 
for restaurants as well as grocery stores, would be:

	63rd street between Western and say Pulaski

If someone has more precise info, they should post it.


>I know the term Middle Eastern is kinda imprecise, ...

If your tastes include Persian food, you can try

	Tehran Cafe or Cafe Tehran 
        (Clark around 6600 North, east side of the street)	
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From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: best oriental restaurant
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:44:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.151421.19030@ils.nwu.edu> tsui@ils.nwu.edu writes:
>I'm Chinese and I prefer Korean over Chinese food...  I also
>can't understand the appeal of Thai food, just a passing fad...

Heat.  It has a hot flavor that I haven't been able to get from
Korean, Mongolian, Szechwan, Indian, or any other supposedly hot Asian
cuisine (with the possible exception of Indonesian, which is unfortunately
not available in Chicago).  And it's not just the curries;  any food with
Thai peppers seems to be vastly improved.  (Besides, I can beg them to
hurt me and they'll generally try, unlike the Chinese places.)

Hyde Park has five Thai places and I don't get enough.  Anyone hear of
any vacancies in a Thai restaurant, just let me know and I'll move in
with all my belongings.  :-)

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Ellen Keyne Seebacher            elle@midway.uchicago.edu
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From: tsui@ils.nwu.edu
Subject: Re: best oriental restaurant
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: chi
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:43:51 GMT

>
>Heat.  It has a hot flavor that I haven't been able to get from
>Korean, Mongolian, Szechwan, Indian, or any other supposedly hot Asian
>cuisine (with the possible exception of Indonesian, which is unfortunately
>not available in Chicago).  And it's not just the curries;  any food with
>Thai peppers seems to be vastly improved.  (Besides, I can beg them to
>hurt me and they'll generally try, unlike the Chinese places.)
>

thats what I meant when I said there really isn't any outstanding Chinese
restaurants in Chicago, none of them understand how to make HOT food.  My mom
can make a dish that no restaurant would dare try to sell because its so hot,
but its also complex with othre flavors.  All the restaurants try to cater to
what they think people will like, not what they themselves like.

I've still yet to have a Thai dish that was hot AND flavorful.  If I just
wanted heat I'd go and just eat the peppers.

Its funny though, everytime I take a non-Asian friend to a Chinese restaurant
and ask for something to be really hot they never do it, only if I'm alone or
with another Asian.  Either way I shouldn't have to ask for it if its specified
on the menu.  When they do make it extra hot all they do is add peppers so it
overpowers any other taste, I hate that!!

Josh (its more than just food) Tsui
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 13 Aug 1992 12:01:09 CDT
From: <U30644@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Mexican Restaurants
 <1992Aug12.233836.19659@midway.uchicago.edu>

In article <1992Aug12.233836.19659@midway.uchicago.edu>,
elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher) says:
>
>dye@i88.isc.com (Ken R. Dye ) writes:
>>How about a place that serves "gorditas" or "sopes" or "tinga"(sp)?
>
>More importantly:  do any of these places serve sopapillas?
>
>Much of my childhood was spent in Tucson and El Paso, and ten years in
>Chicago have made me yearn for sopapillas -- I didn't even see them at
>the places I've visited in Pilsen.  :(
>
That's probably because this is more of a Tex-Mex dish than a purely Mexican
dish.  My mom is one of the best Mexican cooks in the world and I've never
heard of them!!!  They MAY be called something else... there is an
incredible variety of Mexican pastry...it sounds like a combination
of a "rosca" and a "campechana."

Joel






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From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: best oriental restaurant
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:05:15 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.184351.2543@ils.nwu.edu> tsui@ils.nwu.edu writes:
>thats what I meant when I said there really isn't any outstanding Chinese
>restaurants in Chicago, none of them understand how to make HOT food.  My mom
>can make a dish that no restaurant would dare try to sell because its so hot,
>but its also complex with othre flavors....
>I've still yet to have a Thai dish that was hot AND flavorful.

Good heavens, where are you eating Thai, and what dishes are you eating?

Try one of the Hyde Park restaurants (Thai 55, Siam, Thai Twin, Tipsuda, 
even the take-out joint "Chick-n-Rice").  They'll serve you an
excellent nua nam tok (beef salad), or {meat-of-your-choice} basil,
or {chicken or shrimp} tom yum, or nearly any kind of curry.  

(I was rather impressed with the place near Clark and Belmont, too,
 though the name escapes me at the moment.  Lovely food -- I loved the
 dish involving chicken, broccoli, peppers, and satay sauce.)

--
Ellen Keyne Seebacher            elle@midway.uchicago.edu
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From: briano@spss.com (Brian O'Laughlin)
Subject: Re: Where's good Middle Eastern Food?
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:42:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.161724.1@gsbacd.uchicago.edu> gft_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu (opcode ranger) writes:
>
[deletions]
>Finally, one of my favourite ME places is "Pita Inn".  It's on Dempster, in
>Skokie, on the north side of the street.  I think it's in the 3900 block.  It's
>a free standing place (reviewed last month in Chicago mag) next to Dunkin
>Donuts.  Sorry I can't be more specific, but you'll find it.  It's East of
>Skokie Blvd, and West of McCormick.  

It's just east of Crawford (on the North side of the street).

Lovely spot.

--Brian O'Laughlin
--SPSS Inc
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From: vleppert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Valerie Leppert)
Subject: Re: Where's good Middle Eastern Food?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:37:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.192444.7897@midway.uchicago.edu> trivedi@curie.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi) writes:
>maxwell@fnalb.fnal.gov writes:
>
>>I'm interested in finding out more about ...Middle Eastern restaurants
>
>[I apologize in advance for not having exact addresses on me but names
>are accurate, so you can look them up in a phone book.]
>
>Hyde Park has two Middle Eastern restaurants:
>
>	University Gardens (53rd Street) 
>	Nile (55th Street)
>
>Both have their following. Try them and please post a review!
>
>
>>Middle Eastern Grocery stores...
>
>A good *area* to explore (with a car), 
>for restaurants as well as grocery stores, would be:
>
>	63rd street between Western and say Pulaski
>
>If someone has more precise info, they should post it.
>
>
>>I know the term Middle Eastern is kinda imprecise, ...
>
>If your tastes include Persian food, you can try
>
>	Tehran Cafe or Cafe Tehran 
>        (Clark around 6600 North, east side of the street)	
>----

The Tehran is great but like most Persian places it doesn't have much in
the way of vegetarian food, unless you count the rice the meat comes on
:-).
By the way, the last time I was there (about 3 months ago) the food and
service had declined quite a bit.  Does anyone know if they were sold?
When I ordered Joujeh Kebab the served it on plain rice!  Everyone knows
that chicken should be served on dilled rice and meat on plain rice!
They didn't bring our torshi with the meal and it was difficult to get the
waiter's attention (odd in a place with 10 tables).  The staff was also
different. 
Well, I won't give up on them yet!
Valerie
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From: ca_sb@gsbacd.uchicago.edu
Subject: Re: Need late late dessert/coffee house recs
Organization: 
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:37:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.145256.1@gsbacd.uchicago.edu>, gft_robert@gsbacd.uchicago.edu (opcode ranger) writes:
> Well, it's late night question time again, but this time with a slight
> variation.  I'm keen to find out now what good late night cafes/coffee shops in
> the Lincoln Park area + environs people recommend.  By late night I mean open
> 'til at least 2 am.  By coffee shop I mean one of the myriad coffee shops that
> serve espresso, coffee 'n' sweets, but don't charge much more than a buck for a
> cup of coffee (e.g. Coffee Chicago, Aroma, Starbucks, etc., etc.).
> 

	I too am interested in such information.  Thanks in advance.

> 
> While we're at it, anybody got any new late late restaurant recs?

	A good place that is open 24 hrs and is a contradiction of sorts is
Korean Restaurant on Lawrence and about California (They are actually listed 
in the phone book as "Korean Restaurant", the restaurant has a Korean name that
goes something like: Hun Du Kwon -I probably butcher that in spelling and
pronunciation, but oh well). I say it is a contradiction of sorts
because it looks like a dive -tacky paintings on the wall (there's one of a 
waterfall that has an outline of Jesus in the water I believe) of the sort that
you can get at the Oil painting sales at hotels or some gas station- but the
food is really good (I don't know how it compares to other korean restaurants
as I have not been to any others) and moderately priced (expect to spend
$10-12 a head for a meal without drinks). My favorite dish is (I know I'll
probably butcher the spelling, but here goes) Bee Bim Bop -fairly spicy and
very good.
	Wow! It's been over a year since I was there last.  Hmmm, it seems that
time for another visit is long overdue. 

> Thanks for any info!
	No problem, my pleasure!
> 
> Robert
> 

	Sarang.
	bama@ellis.uchicago.edu
	"It's never too late to have a happy childhood!" -Isuzu commercial

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From: maxwell@fnalb.fnal.gov
Subject: Where's good Middle Eastern Food?
Organization: What does *this* button do!?
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 04:02:54 GMT
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I'm interested in finding out more about the various Middle Eastern restaurants
in Chicagoland (suburbs are ok)

I know the term Middle Eastern is kinda imprecise, so let me elaborate.
If they serve hummous, tabouleh or falafels, or *real* turkish coffee,
I'm interested.

I know about the two Beruit restaurants on the north side (My absolute favorite
place to eat-- I wish the remodeling was finished)  

I've been to Konac (not *quite* what I'm looking for, but a very nice place).

There's  place on Diversy between Broadway and Sheridan (real easy to miss,
been there once...they have camels and carpets on the wall-- again very nice,
but not *quite* what I'm looking for)... 

There have to be more places.

My posslq and I are vegatarians FWIW.

Middle Eastern Grocery stores are high on my list of places to discover, too.

salivating.max
maxwell@fnala.fnal.gov
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From: jailbird@ddsw1.mcs.com (Ron D. Harvey, Professional Bachelor)
Subject: Re: Where's good Middle Eastern Food?
Organization: Evil, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:46:21 GMT
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                the poster and does not represent MCSNet or the system owners.

From article <1992Aug15.220254.1@fnalb.fnal.gov>, by maxwell@fnalb.fnal.gov:
> I'm interested in finding out more about the various Middle Eastern restaurants
> in Chicagoland (suburbs are ok)

	Two of my favorites (and they're pretty close to each other, so
eat a little at one and then the other and compare!) are Little (or is
it "Old"?) Jerusalem on Wells, just south of North Avenue (bring your 
own liquor) and 1000 Nights on Sedgwick, just north of North Ave. (they 
have a full bar).  Mmmm, Turkish coffee that looks like mud!

	Both serve tasty, reasonably-priced Middle Eastern fare, though 
I've found that the service at Little Jerusalem to be more personal and
faster than 1000 Nights, but overall I prefer 1000 Nights.  Very casual.
Both have takeouts.

	Oh, and there Uncle Tannous on Halsted near Wellington.  It's
very good too, but fancier, more expensive, great service, and interesting
specials.  I go there when I'm out with that special someone.

	Hope this helps!


-- 
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From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: Mexican Restaurants
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:38:36 GMT

dye@i88.isc.com (Ken R. Dye ) writes:
>How about a place that serves "gorditas" or "sopes" or "tinga"(sp)?

More importantly:  do any of these places serve sopapillas?

Much of my childhood was spent in Tucson and El Paso, and ten years in
Chicago have made me yearn for sopapillas -- I didn't even see them at
the places I've visited in Pilsen.  :(

[For those who don't speak border Spanish:  sopapillas are little dessert
 pastries, sprinkled with sugar, or served with honey or chocolate dip;
 the best are somewhat puffy.]

--
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From: vleppert@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Valerie Leppert)
Subject: Re: Where's good Middle Eastern Food?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:38:32 GMT

In article <payman.714026014@retief.astro.nwu.edu> payman@iti.org (Payman Parastaran) writes:
>
>As an Iranian, the fact that Joujeh (means "baby chicken") Kabob is always
>served with dill rice in Persian restaurants in the States is very curious.
>I can't ever recall being given dill rice with Joujeh Kabob during the years
>I lived in Iran.  In fact, I'm so used to having white rice with the Joujeh
>that I ask for it instead every time I go to one of the Persian restaurants
>in the area.  Persians usually reserve the rice dishes with green veggies
>(dill, parsley, etc.) for fish.
>
>Wouldn't you say that this seems like a conspiracy to misrepresent Persian
>cuisine?
>

Even worse, you do not see the variety of wonderful stews that Persian food
has to offer.  Sure, everyone offers fesenjan and plain lamb shank and
gormasabze; but where do you  see Khoresh-e Bamieh (okra and tomato and
mushroom stew) or Koresh-e Kadou Halvai-o Alou (pumpkin and prune stew) or
Khoresh-e Karafse (celery stew) or Khoresh-e Loubia Sabz (green  bean stew)
or orange stew or rhubarb stew or quince stew or eggplant stew?

These are many of the wonderful foods that I have eaten
at the homes of Persian friends or cooked from my Persian cookbook (with
the guidance of those friends).  In my opinion these dishes are much better
and more complex than the "kebab" dishes.  They combine the flavors of meat
and spices and fruits and vegetables.  Also, the Persian restaurants don't
reflect the differences in the food from different regions in Iran.  I have
noticed quite a bit of difference in sweetness or sourness or degree of
spiciness.  

These dishes are very unique (at least tto this country) and subtle.  Almost
everyone I know who has has the oppurtunity to taste fine Persian stews
(and various layered rice dishes) loves them.

Valerie
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From: tsui@ils.nwu.edu
Subject: Re: best oriental restaurant
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: chi
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:42:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.002055.24372@midway.uchicago.edu> jcav@quads.uchicago.edu
(JohnC) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.230515.25753@midway.uchicago.edu>
elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Aug13.184351.2543@ils.nwu.edu> tsui@ils.nwu.edu writes:
>>>I've still yet to have a Thai dish that was hot AND flavorful.
>>
>>Good heavens, where are you eating Thai, and what dishes are you eating?
>>
>>Try one of the Hyde Park restaurants (Thai 55, Siam, Thai Twin, Tipsuda, 
>>even the take-out joint "Chick-n-Rice").  They'll serve you an
>>excellent nua nam tok (beef salad), or {meat-of-your-choice} basil,
>>or {chicken or shrimp} tom yum, or nearly any kind of curry.  
>
>Yeah!  The nua nam tok from Thai Twin is so fiery it nearly reduced me to
>tears, but the blend of flavors is exquisite.  Absolutely astounding!
>Go for it. :-)
>
>


Thanks for the recommendations, i'm definitely going to try these places.  I
had a feeling I was asking for trouble when I wrote the above comment.  I do
admit that I am a Thai-food novice so maybe these places will open my eyes (and
make me sweat).

btw, am i the only person who judges how good a dish is by the amount of sweat
that pours out of my head?  When I eat good Chinese or Korean food my head
sweats!! (mainly from spices, of course)  This can be embarrassing on dates as
the mousse in my hair oozes down my head and my hair goes from big to limp.


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From: jej@chinet.chi.il.us (joe jesson)
Subject: Re: best oriental restaurant
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:29:10 GMT

 I've tried all the above listed Thai places in Hyde Park and found each
to be inferior to the small "Star of Bankok" on State Street.

The flavor and freshness can not be beet.  Try the Kee Mau noodle dish...


--joe

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From: dye@i88.isc.com (Ken R. Dye )
Subject: Re: Mexican Restaurants
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:44:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.233836.19659@midway.uchicago.edu> elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>dye@i88.isc.com (Ken R. Dye ) writes:
>>How about a place that serves "gorditas" or "sopes" or "tinga"(sp)?
>
>More importantly:  do any of these places serve sopapillas?
>
>Much of my childhood was spent in Tucson and El Paso, and ten years in
>Chicago have made me yearn for sopapillas -- I didn't even see them at
>the places I've visited in Pilsen.  :(
>
>[For those who don't speak border Spanish:  sopapillas are little dessert
> pastries, sprinkled with sugar, or served with honey or chocolate dip;
> the best are somewhat puffy.]

	Blue Mesa (yuppie tex-mex, but good) on Halsted has these.
Still no word on where I can get my delicacies (above).  Bummer.

--Ken
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 11:48:59 CDT
From: <U30644@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Subject: Re: best oriental restaurant
Distribution: chi
 <92226.112611U30644@uicvm.uic.edu> <1992Aug14.150155.23653@ils.nwu.edu>


>Yeah, its not so much of it not being good, its just the way some people
>suddenly love a particular type of food because everyone else swears by it.
>
Yes.  The sushi craze is a good example of that.  Yuppies are the most
notorious at this.  I think it's a bit patronizing.

>>I swear by Rose Thai (2644 W. Lawrence) in the same way you
>>swear by Gin Go Gae.

>Thanks, I'll try this place out this week, its pretty close to where I live
>and
>I'll tell you what I had.
>
Try the nam tok appetizer and maybe the pad thai, but definitely the nam tok.

>>I find the whole thing very interesting, and am as surprised as you are by
>>the incredible differences in our reactions.
>
>It is pretty funny, I'm just sorry you shelled out 30 buck for something u
>didn't like at my recommendation.

Hey, that's part of the risk!!  If I had enough money, I'd go out every night
and try something new!!

Joel ("food is love") Sanchez
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From: billb@fnbc.com (Bill Burcham)
Subject: Elvis Sighted
Keywords: elvis, mexican,chinese,eat,food,madonna
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 18:36:26 GMT

I _knew_ that subject would hook you...

I wish someone would turn the "Mexican" and "Chinese" threads into a FAQ.

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