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From: saint@cats.ucsc.edu (Daniel Ira Bodenheimer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Tune-up 1.1.1 kills File Sharing
Date: 17 Oct 1992 00:56:07 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <Bw8GFB.A6z@willamette.edu> epatter@willamette.edu (Eric Patterson) writes:
>Actually, I ran into the same problem with my new PowerBook 145.  I installed
>System 7.0.1 and ran TuneUp 1.1.1, and File Sharing does not work.  This is
>without ANY other Inits (other than what comes on Easy Install for Sys7.0.1
>and TU 1.1.1).
>-- 
>+----------------------------------+-------------------+----------------------+
>| InterNet: epatter@willamette.edu | eric s. patterson | AOL: ericp23@aol.com |
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Are you sure that you had AppleTalk turned on? I know that tuneup 1.1.1
installs a new chooser that has some new "features" --On after restart.
Maybe the new chooser is automatically set to off as the default, but
I would think that file sharing would still be an option, it would
just give you an error message. Something like "you must have 
appletalk turned on for file sharing to activate."   But that is probably
it. I am pretty sure that AppleTalk must be off, I have seen instances
like this and that was my problem. Let me know if it works...
-Dan
note: I think I liked the old chooser even if it hogged more memory...
.
From: wjk@Phonogenic.COM (Bill Keenan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Fast modems and uAccess
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 13:11:06 PDT
Organization: Phonogenic Systems Corporation
Reply-To: wjk@Phonogenic.COM (Bill Keenan)
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <D2150035.fgqre7@outpost.SF-Bay.org> (comp.sys.mac.comm), peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce) writes:
> 
> I may be buying one of these new fast modems (V.32bis) to use with
> uAccess (I have 1.6v1).
> 
> Does anyone have experience using these modems with uAccess?  I'd
> like to hear good/bad stories before I make a purchase decision.
> 
> I'm a tad nervous since one of the modems I have, a 2400 baud teleport
> doesn't work with uAccess.  The teleport software always crashes when
> uAccess trys to access it (the Teleport does work fine with AppleLink
> and Ameria Online).  
> 
> I hooked up borrowed QBlazer (only V.32) and although it sort of worked
> when it talked to another QBlazer, it didn't work well at all when it
> talk with slower 2400 bps modems (didn't negotiate down to 2400 bps).  

I am using uAccess with a Telebit WorldBlazer and DigiBoard DigiCHANNEL
NU/4i. Since Turbo-PEP w/ V.42bis theoretically needs a DTE speed of
92,000bps (4 * 23,000), I am driving the WorldBlazer at 115,200bps. I
have not had any problems, but the throughput is way off (news batches
are received at 300 - 1000 cps w/ 600 - 800 typical; outgoing msgs are
800 - 1300 cps). I do not know all the reasons for the poor
performance. (Note that uAccess does not appear to be using the elapsed
timer capability of the Extended Time Manager to get the time for
characters-per-second, so the precision of the uAccess Session Log is
off some, but error becomes insignificant as the batch size increases.)
Tim Endres has suggested he might look at the way uAccess reads and
writes from/to the Comm Toolbox, so there may be some improvement in a
future release of uAccess. But I think the biggest problem is with the
mail/news service provider. If the service provider cannot keep up (ie.
keep modem buffers above low water mark) with all the active UUCP and
NNTP sessions, the fastest modem on the market won't buy you anything
with respect to uAccess.

________________________________________________________________________
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for a family of 4) with little hope of paying any of the principal!
From: Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: TALK on Macintosh ? Which programs ?
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:40:49 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Harvard University Office for Information Technology

In article <9210061954.AA11155@nestroy.wu-wien.ac.at>,
sinkovics@wu-wien.ac.at (Rudolf R. Sinkovics) wrote:

> Is there a MacTCP based program that lets you have interactive
> conversations on a Macintosh (like TALK  on a Unix machine) ?

In fact, *exactly* like that....

Get Peter Lewis' talk/talkd package from Sumex....

Conrad C. Nobili  N1LPM  Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU  Harvard University OIT
From: andyb@twisty.eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Andy Babinszki)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: YMODEM & ZMODEM Tool for Macintosh Comm Toolbox?
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 13:12:59 PDT
Organization: A Maze of Twisty Little Passages, All Alike
Reply-To: andyb@twisty.eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca (Andy Babinszki)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1

Does anyone know of a Y/ZMODEM tool for CTB?  Comercial, Share or
Freeware?

AB.

---
Andy Babinszki          andyb@twisty.eslvcr.wimsey.bc.ca
                        "Hello?  Hello?"  (604) 664.4545
From: dewey@centerline.com (Devan F. Dewey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: QuickMail 2.5.1, GaterMail-Q, and MacTCP
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:21:32 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.212

In article <1992Oct9.151427.22281@wheaton.wheaton.edu>,
jsdonald@david.wheaton.edu (Joel S. Donaldson) wrote:
> 
> We have QuickMail set up with GaterMail-Q to shuffle mail back and forth
> between SMTP and QuickMail.  To do this, GaterMail-Q need MacTCP.  Here is the
> catch, it only seems to work with MacTCP 1.0.1 NOT MacTCP 1.1!  Our other
> network utilities (NCSA Telnet, Fetch, etc..) need the newer version.  Is there
> some trick to this?

GatorMail 2.0x works only with MacTCP 1.0.1. Cayman just announced that
StarNine, the original creator on GatorMail-Q, is reclaiming development
and support responsibility for their product (soon to be Mail-Link, again).
StarNine is already offering an upgrade to 2.1 for a modest fee per server.

Version 2.1 support MacTCP 1.1. You should contact StarNine for this.

-Devan
                             
               Devan F. Dewey | Senior Systems Analyst
          CenterLine Software | dewey@centerline.com
            10 Fawcett Street | "Leme esplain - no dere is
          Cambridge, MA 02138 | too much. Leme sum up."
                                       -Inigo Montoya
From: jonvw@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jonathan Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Q: getting ftp'ed files
Date: 10 Oct 1992 13:40:57 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

  How should I get files that I have ftp'ed to my sever onto my personal computer.  I am using macintosh kermit 0.98. Thanks.
-- 
- I shall henceforth be known as Jonathan Williams.
Jonvw@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
-"...to boldly go where no man has gone before."
From: mlbizer@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Marc Bizer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Menu Hook Patch
Date: 14 Oct 92 04:42:42 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin
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In article <BvoEsy.Cw3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Brad Lamont, lamont@dcl-nxt15
writes:
>during transfers, I use MenuHook Patch to allow background processing

Can anyone else comment on this INIT/CDEV? Does it work well? Most
importantly, where can one find it? It isnCt on Sumex anymore.  I find it
incredibly annoying that everything stop on the Mac when you pull down a
menu.
	Thanks,
	Yours truly,
	Marc Bizer (mlbizer@bongo.cc.utexas.edu)
From: churley@warren.med.harvard.edu (Carol Hurley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: FAX/Modem Recommendations
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:50:24 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Harvard Medical School

Hi all.  I am trying to get information on fax/modems.  My boss is
interested in getting one and would like to know what manufactuers offer
the best modems, best service etc.  In other words are there any brands
that you would avoid and any that you think are particularly reliable. 
Also, have any of you had any experiences with fax/modems that would lead
to recommend staying away from them, and if so why?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carol Hurley
churley@warren.med.harvard.edu

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacIntercomm (finally a real comm program)
Date: 12 Oct 92 09:58:32 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Oct10.033953.23009@muddcs.claremont.edu>, jam@jupiter.claremont.edu (Jay Margolis) writes:
> In article <6176.2ad5c460@hayes.com> bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)  
> writes:
>> Did you bother to check out Smartcom II's PC-ANSI emulation? 16 real colors.
>> All the IBM character set.
>> And FAST!
> 
> MacIntercomm has full 16 color PC-ANSI that is very significantly faster  
> than SmartCom II.  

Smartcom II supports 16 colors, and I don't believe for a moment that
MacIntercomm is "significantly faster." If I can ever get MacIntercomm to
run, perhaps I'll do some real performance tests.

Smartcom II has been one of the real speed-burners in terminal emulation
performance for years. Other programs have nearly matched the performance,
but never exceeded it. I can't see how MacIntercomm can be "significantly
faster."

> The scrolling in MacIntercomm uses scrollbars  
> that move the text as you move the thumb, something I simply can't live  
> without now, and it stores color, blinking, double-width, double-height,  
> inverse, and other things in the buffer which can be automatically  
> recalled when you next startup the program.  

Smartcom II doesn't scroll the text as you move the scroll bar, and the
perus ebuffer isn't save across program invocations. But it does support
color and other attributes in the peruse buffer.

> It also supports full VT220, Extended packet Kermit, macros, 
> and smart-dial area code negotation.  All of which appear to be features 
> Smartcom does not support.

You must be using some ancient version of Smartcom, or perhaps you are
grossly misinformed. (I suspect the latter)

Smartcom supports SLIDING WINDOWS Kermit, with extended packets, and has
more than just a Macro facility, it has a minature scripting language.

I don't see how you can execute perforamnce tests when you obviously haven't
used our software.

-- 
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From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steven Dorner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Zterm and sz MacBinary Handshaking
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:29:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc

In article <1238@shrike.com>, flash@austin.lockheed.com (James W. Melton)
wrote:
> First of all, to my knowledge, there are only TWO forks in a Mac
> file (resource and data).

There are two forks, but there is also other assorted information, such as
the name of the file, the type and creator, the flag bits, the custom icon,
different versions of the filename, the desktop comment, etc..  Depending
on your file format, some or all of this information is also encoded in the
file.  This information may collectively be viewed as a third "fork", for
compactness in terminology.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jbailey@world.std.com (james d bailey)
Subject: Re: MacIntercomm (finally a real comm program)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:02:30 GMT

Alexander M. Rosenberg <alexr@apple.com> writes:

>In article <BvtyrI.F7F@world.std.com> james d bailey, jbailey@world.std.com
>writes:
>>MacIntercomm does use the CTB if you want.  This shows a high level of
>>compatibilty since the CTB is anything but stable.

>If you are aware of any bugs in the Macintosh Communications Toolbox or related
>tools, then by all means, please report them to Apple via the appropriate
>channels.

>Don't waste the time of the net community by complaining in an arbitrary
>fashion.

[sig deleted]

Hmm, maybe I didn't make myself clear.  The argument was that MacIntercomm
didn't use the system so was likely to have compatibilty problems.  My
response was that it used the Comm Tool Box so it must have a high level
of compatibilty.  Maybe the statement about the stability of the CTB
was misguided, but it is based on casual use of the CTB in a couple of
programs.

My comments were not meant to reflect any level of competence of 
system programmers at Apple.  I was merely trying to correct some 
misunderstandings about MacIntercomm, which I use every day without 
a problem.

To make this perfectly clear, I think that the CTB is one of the
advantages that Apple provides over other System Software providers
(ie microsloth).  Apple has a firm grasp of the desirability of standards.
I look forward to a day when all communications goes through the CTB.
Just like all sound goes through the sound manager, windows go through
the window manager etc.  I just don't think it is quite here yet.



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: sdorner@qualcomm.com (Steven Dorner)
Subject: Re: MacTCP development toolkit?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:20:36 GMT

In article <Bw4ALG.Gqr@ie.utoronto.ca>, andy@ie.utoronto.ca (Andy Sun)
wrote:
> Someone here would like to write an interface which uses MacTCP to
> communicate with a Unix machine. Does anyone know if there is a development
> toolkit available if we bought MacTCP, or is there a separate package from
> Apple that we can purchase?

The APDA MacTCP package includes development information.  It's $100.

However; if your application will fit, consider using the HyperCard MacTCP
XCMD's.  These used to be available from ftp.apple.com, but I don't know
where they are now.

I've done several TCP things this way, and it's quite easy.  You do have to
live with HyperCard, though.
From: bylsma@unixg.ubc.ca (Dieder A. Bylsma)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: MacTCP/ARA
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:58:16 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Originator: bylsma@unixg.ubc.ca


I'm sure this has been discussed before, as I've seen it on the mac.digest , 
however, I would think that it is possible to combine ARA and MacTCP.
Is this true? I have heard that there are universities that have,
through 'tunneling' managed to create huge virtual appletalk systems
just by going through the internet system.

If there *is* a way, could someone tell me? If there isn't a way,
tell me so I can stop holding my breath! :-)

Thanks,

Dieder
From: haynes@equinox.unr.edu (Kenneth Haynes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Kermit Modem Tool???
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:19:27 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno


Does somebody know if there is a Kermit Modem Tool floatin around 
someplace? 

Our school doesnt really support Xmodem and Id like to use the kermit
protocal without having to run the kermit application.

-----ken
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Using modem for communications /w/ TDD
Organization: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx
Date:  9 Oct 92 03:30:27 GMT

My computer: Mac LC II 4/80
My modem: PowerUser 2400 Mimi
Comm software: ZTerm 0.9 and MacKnowledge 1.05 MW

I want to call my granparents who have a tdd or a tty.  In System 7 there is a tty tool.  I'm pretty sure that is is possible to connect directly
with them but I don't know how.  Does anybody know?  I know that
they don't have a "hardware handshake".  If you know please tell
me all including at waht baud, parity and how many data /stop bits.
thanks in advance.
--
cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu

"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: gs@statlab.uni-heidelberg.de (G. Sawitzki)
Subject: Re: ISDN 'tween nets
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: StatLab Heidelberg
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 18:04:17 GMT

In article <1364300007@igc.apc.org>, Andrew Waegel <awaegel@igc.apc.org>
wrote:
> I'm looking for folks who have experience with using 
> ISDN to connect 2 remote Mac EtherTalk networks,...
> preferrably with a mac-like interface such as Liaision.
> Specifically, what hardware is needed? Is the Apple ISDN
> card enough - will it plug directly into an ISDN line?
> What software comm products speak ISDN? Thanks...

The Leonardo ISDN card and software by Hermstedt Laboratories may satisfy
your needs. You can reach Hermstedt as GER.XSE0009@applelink.apple.com.
        G. Sawitzki
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: lpcasson@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Lawrence P. Casson)
Subject: Re: MacTCP driver and V7.0.1 conflict?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:07:19 GMT

In article <ceqIF5600ioWM9I6Y5@andrew.cmu.edu> js3b+@andrew.cmu.edu (James Vincent Schultz) writes:
>Andre' Pirard <pirard@vm1.ulg.ac.be> writes:
>> System 7 requires MacTCP 1.1.
>
>This is not true at all.  Things may run less buggy once you upgrade,
>but it is by no means a requirement.

"Less buggy" enables access to the EtherNet rather than the Ether!
From: fleming@cup.portal.com (Stephen R Fleming)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Two modems at the same time ?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 07:51:24 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Pasi,

I have done this several times (two programs, two ports, two phone
lines, two modems) with no trouble.  Kinda neat!

fleming@cup.portal.com
From: jbailey@world.std.com (james d bailey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacIntercomm (finally a real comm program)
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:36:12 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

cshotton@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Chuck Shotton) writes:

>In article <1992Oct8.182340.8185@muddcs.claremont.edu>,
>jam@jupiter.claremont.edu (Jay Margolis) wrote:

>> [Stuff about MacIntercomm nuked.]

>>  This is exactly the kind of UNIX-like stability that the  
>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> Mac has never had until now.  
>> 

>Now there's an oxymoron if ever I saw one! 

>I suppose this program will work if Apple decides to throw out the serial
>chip for a DSP chip? I think not. People who hack the hardware directly
>like this deserve every bit of heartache they get when the hardware
>changes. Apple wrote the Toolbox and various managers for a reason.

>I'm with Tim on this. Good APPLICATION level software should never touch
>the hardware directly.

>--_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-
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>Ass't Director, Academic Computing |       "This space for rent."
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I don't think it is that bad.  It does work with the Comm tool box.  This
would imply at least some use of the system, toolbox and managers.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ulfis@cyklop.nada.kth.se (Anders Ulfheden)
Subject: Modems with a PB in Japan?
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:06:41 GMT

A friend has a PB170 with Apples PowerBook Modem built in. She works in Japan.
Unfortunately, the communication over the modem doesn't work.

According to Apple Japan, the built in modem doesn't work in their telephone
system. So, who knows about connecting modems in Japan? Rumors says that there
are at least three different phone networks/systems in Japan that you can
get a line to.

Any hints?

Thanks!

Ulfis
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: Two modems at the same time ?
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 10:23:43 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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In article <JON.92Oct14093305@cas.org> Jon Vander Hill, jon@cas.org
writes:
>Here's a related question: It there any Mac comm software that
>can use the fact that Macs have two serial ports.  All the comm
>software I've seen (mostly PD and shareware stuff) requires that
>you select one port or the other.  The application
>I have in mind is to set the Mac up as a gateway box.

The best software I know for this sort of thing is PacerTerm from Pacer
Software. I'm using it with Applied Engineering's Quadralink card (which
adds 4 serial ports to my IIci, giving me a total of 6). I use one port
for a financial data feed coming in by satellite, which PacerTerm
captures to disk; two are used for modems; one is used as an "imitation"
serial printer for an IBM, again with each session being captured to disk
from the feed from the IBM PC.  (The output is silent; dot matrix
printers aren't. And I don't have to worry about paper jams, ribbons--and
can search the output by computer and file the output on my hard drive
easily. I save a few trees each year this way too.)

The beauty of PacerTerm is that each of these sessions is carried on at
the same time in different windows of PacerTerm, each of which can have
different comm settings, terminal settings, and the like, all working at
the same time and all independent of each other. You can use any ports
that the communications toolbox can find.  VERY nice indeed...

Jeff Needleman