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Subject: Re: Get Back
From: kmagnacca@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:52:27 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <tp923083.721873096@jarrah>, tp923083@jarrah.canberra.edu.au (Simon Porritt) writes:
> 
> I think that the Get Back album _should_ be released, with the original
> idea for the cover and all that. (The 'Get Back With Let It Be and 11
> other songs')and the picture of them taken in the same building as the
> Please Please Me one. Because then, we'd have those songs _before_ Phil
> Spector got at them. Not that he stuffed them up too badly from what I
> hear, but I know for a fact that Paul McCartney was NOT impressed with
> The Long and Winding Road.
> 
> Just a thought, anyway. Suggestions?

   Not too likely, with the cover already used for the 1966-1970
LP; although I suppose if they never release it on CD it's a 
possibility.

   On most of the songs Spector didn't mess them up too badly, but
on L&WR he did.  The version on Let It Be makes me puke, but I have 
the Yellow Dog Get Back and it's a great song without all the strings.

Karl
------
"Find a great ideal, a great purpose, marry it, and raise a family."
					 --Negativland, "U2"
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From: Christer.Gullstrand@malmo.trab.se (Christer Gullstrand)
Subject: Re: What's The New Mary Jane?
Organization: Telia Research, Malmo, Sweden
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:25:38 GMT

In article <Nov17.213047.34689@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mk568652@longs.lance.colostate.edu (Mitchell Kotler) writes:
>Is " What's The New Mary Jane?" some recently discovered
>unreleased   Beatle tune that I am unaware of?  If so, where 
>can I get it?  Has anybody heard it?  Is it worth buying?
>

It has been around for quite a while on different boots.
There are two or three different mixes on Ultra Rare Trax.
It's John, Yoko and George sitting on the floor...
John Lennon intended it to be the next (after Let it be) Beatles single.
The other three, as well as George Martin, refused, and the song was left unissued.
It is worth buying if you like revolution #9.

Christer
From: tp923083@jarrah.canberra.edu.au (Simon Porritt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Mia Farrow
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:50:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: jarrah.tp923083.721871429
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA

In <1992Nov9.170711.4634@verifone.com> kent_f1@verifone.com writes:

>>(Craig  Cameron) writes: (that Dear Prudence was written for Mia Farrow's
>sister)

>I don't have my books in front of me, but wasn't it Mia Farrow's
>daughter?
>^^^^^^^^

Dear Prudence was written after one of the people studying
transcendental meditation with them in India in 1968. Don't know who,
though.

  Simon
(proud new owner of The Complete Beatles Recording Sessions)
From: stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Famous Number Plate spotted !!
Keywords: beatles
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:08:50 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex



Students of 20th Century history (as against ancient egyptian 
history) will be aware that Brighton's Grand Hotel is extremely 
famous for two reasons.

The first is of course that it was the setting for the scene in 
'Quadrophenia' where Sting makes his first screen appearance as 
the  Bellboy.

The second was the attempt by the IRA in October 1984 to blow up 
the entire British government.  An attempt that historians may 
care to note was more successful than that of Guy Fawkes. (And I 
depressingly note that my 8 year old was recently taught about it 
in a history lesson at school).

A third reason for fame can now be added.

I was outside the hotel on sunday last (on my way to a Record 
Fair in the adjacent Brighton Centre - famous in turn for being 
where Dr Rock got his degree...) and parked outside was a car (a 
metro!) with the third most famous beatles related number plate. 

Yes, there it was........  1 RMB

:-)

(I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader to deduce the top 
two!)

Stephen Carter, Systems & Operations Manager, Computing Services, 
 University of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QJ, UK
  JANET        : S.Carter@uk.ac.sussex.central
   "Nothing is Beatle Proof!"
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From: mthompso@dante.nmsu.edu (Mike Thompson)
Subject: Request:Lyrics to Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds
Organization: New Mexico State University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:38:44 GMT

Could someone please send me the lyrics to Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds.  I 
am working on a paper for an anthropology class on a 3.5 million year old
fossil called Lucy named after that popular song.  I would like to site
part of it in my intro to add flair.

Thanks in advance

-Mike

mthompso@nmsu.edu


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From: nahigian@athena.mit.edu (Gabriel H Nahigian)
Subject: Re: Mia Farrow
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:41:59 GMT

In article <tp923083.721871429@jarrah>, tp923083@jarrah.canberra.edu.au (Simon Porritt) writes:
|> In <1992Nov9.170711.4634@verifone.com> kent_f1@verifone.com writes:
|> 
|> >>(Craig  Cameron) writes: (that Dear Prudence was written for Mia Farrow's
|> >sister)
|> 
|> >I don't have my books in front of me, but wasn't it Mia Farrow's
|> >daughter?
|> >^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Dear Prudence was written after one of the people studying
|> transcendental meditation with them in India in 1968. Don't know who,
|> though.

As has already been mentioned on this newsgroup, "Dear Prudence" was written
about Mia Farrow's sister, Prudence Farrow, who was indeed one of those traveling
with the Maharishi in India.

Gabe (nahigian@athena.mit.edu)
From: tp923083@jarrah.canberra.edu.au (Simon Porritt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Get Back
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:18:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: jarrah.tp923083.721873096
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA


I think that the Get Back album _should_ be released, with the original
idea for the cover and all that. (The 'Get Back With Let It Be and 11
other songs')and the picture of them taken in the same building as the
Please Please Me one. Because then, we'd have those songs _before_ Phil
Spector got at them. Not that he stuffed them up too badly from what I
hear, but I know for a fact that Paul McCartney was NOT impressed with
The Long and Winding Road.

Just a thought, anyway. Suggestions?

-Simon
From: mike-b@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Michael Bishop)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:52:46 GMT
Subject: Badfinger's _Straight Up_ on CD yet?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles

Anyone know when (or if) the powers that be will release Badfinger's
_Straight Up_ album on CD?

Thanx.

Michael Bishop
Hewlett-Packard Company
Internet: mike-b@fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: tp923083@jarrah.canberra.edu.au (Simon Porritt)
Subject: Re: Various questions...
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Date: 16 Nov 92 00:04:46 GMT

>	It's A Rich Man' - I'm glad it wasn't just me hearing
>	things, because if I was hearing things, I wouldn't want
>	to be hearing things like that. But still...some more
>	questions which I would grateful if someone more knowledgable
>	than me could clear up.

>	1 - 'You Know My Name (Look Up The Number)' is a truly
>	wonderful track. Why hasn't it been mixed into stereo?

>	2 - I've got all the Beatles official releases, more or
>	less, and am wondering if there is any legal way I can
>	get copies of the unreleased stuff. Failing that, what
>	bootlegs would you recommend for quality/content - I'm
>	hopefully going to record fair in a couple of weeks and
>	I don't want to waste my money on crackly mono versions of
>	'Helter Skelter' or whatever. I'd be particularly
>	interested in material from Rubber soul onwards...which
>	reminds me, has the 'Sessions' album ever been released,
>	legally or not?

>	3 - Any news on the 'Long And Winding Road' and 'Making Of
>	Magical Mystery Tour' films yet?

>	4 - Any Rutles fans out there? Part of the fun of their
>	album is trying to work out which Beatles songs are being
>	parodied. Some of the Rutles songs correspond pretty
>	obviously (i.e. Get Up And Go = Get Back) but there's a few I'm
>	not too sure about, like 'It's Looking Good' and 'Cheese And Onions'...
>	lists anyone?	

>	5 - I'm rather surprised no-one has mentioned the new
>	BBC TV series 'Get Back' on the net, since the programme
>	almost entirely consists of Beatle in-jokes.

>	And finally, I must agree about 'The Beatles Discography'
>	being a tad inaccurate. I'm sure Paul played the drums
>	on 'Back In The USSR' for a start...and as for the
>	'Ultimate Beatles Quizbook', well, here's an example:
>	Q Name the Beatles song which mentioned a sweater...
>	A When I'm 64 
>		No mention of 'Get Back' whatsoever...
>				J. Morris

>	"Blue upon blue upon blue..."


>	Um....just a suggestion.....It's looking good : Getting Better ?
       and            Cheese and Onions> : looking through a glass onion

 Don't really know though.

	
               
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From: stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter)
Subject: Re: Mia Farrow
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:20:15 GMT

trwagner@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Ted Wagner) writes:
: In article <56543@dime.cs.umass.edu> krovetz@cs.umass.edu (Bob Krovetz) writes:
: >Who was with the Beatles when they were studying with the Maharishi?
: >I know that Donovan was there, and Prudence Farrow.  Any others?
: 
: 
: 	Mia Farrow, a couple of the Beach Boys, and Linda might have...
: not sure...and not sure about Yoko.  I kinda doubt it.  She's flacky
: enough.

The great thing about the Internet and Network News, and I've done it
several time, is the way that you very publicly (in this case circa
18,000 times) get egg on your face!

Sorry Ted.....  The Maharishi preceded Yoko and Linda.  Maybe you were
confusing them with Cyn and Jane.   

Never mind.

Stephen Carter, Systems & Operations Manager, Computing Services, 
 University of Sussex, Brighton BN1 9QJ, UK
  JANET        : S.Carter@uk.ac.sussex.central
"Nothing is Beatle Proof!"
From: edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu (edward s. chen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Get Back / Supposed Beatle Songs
Date: 21 Nov 1992 02:29:19 GMT
Organization: Little to none, or maybe not......
Distribution: world
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In article <1eid30INN5p3@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> cstadbg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M J Brown) writes:

Ahh, time for another installment of "wading through the myths":

>* Has anyone heard of any of the following tracks, meant to be Beatles, but
>  possibly fakes...some are often included on bootlegs of Beatle material :-
>
>  "Peace of mind (The candle burns)

From a Beatles bootleg called "20X4" (mono), and later another called 
"Strawberry Fields Forever" (stereo).  Alleged by bootleggers to be
a Sgt. Pepper era outtake, but it really doesn't sound very much like
them, and Lewisohn does not mention this song at all.

>  "LS Bumblebee/Bee side"

Peter Cook and Dudley Moore.   The Beatles had nothing to do with this record.

>  "Have you heard the word/Futting around"

A group called "The Futz", which possibly included a member or two of the
BeeGees.  Does sound a lot like the sort of thing John and Yoko were doing
in the late sixties, but more a parody then a serious attempt at copying
their rather unique sound.

>  "Pink Litmus Paper Shirt"

Never bootlegged, a title probably pulled out of the air sometime in the
past.  Lewisohn explicitly denied that there was *any* evidence the song
actually existed.

<ESC>
-- 
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)

                                
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
From: jruiz@halcon.dpi.udec.cl (Jesus Ruiz Matus)
Subject: A Few Questions
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:57:52 GMT
Organization: Universidad de Concepcion, Concepcion - Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


Hello!

	I'm new in this group I've been reading the articles posted
by a few weeks, and I ask a few questions

	First: Is there a FAQ of the group?, I was looking for it
	       and I don't foud it

	Second: Can anybody give the complete reference of THE BOOK,
	        and also if posible an address or reference of a place
	        where I can buy it by mail

		A lot of thanks

				Jesus 


--
Jesus Ruiz Matus                  Depto. Ingenieria Electrica
jruiz@halcon.dpi.udec.cl           Universidad de Concepcion
jruiz@renoir.die.udec.cl         Casilla 53-C Concepcion-Chile
From: bad@pismo.sw.stratus.com (Bruce Dumes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Rutles vs Beatles
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:59:21 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
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In article <1992Nov17.190553.6223@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> hertzberg@levers.enet.dec.com (Marc Hertzberg (History: Love it or leave it!)) writes:
>
>
>Pardon me if this has already been discussed... I've been off this network for
>a few months...
>
>What are the theories on "I'm the Urban Spaceman?"  Obviously Ringo, but I'll be
>durned if I can hear what song inspired this.
>
>							Marc


"Urban Spaceman" was not the Rutles, but the Bonzo Dog Band.  The
Beatles connections with the Bonzo Dog Band are:

1) appeared in Magical Mystery Tour
2) "Urban Spaceman" was produced by Paul McCartney
3) Neil Innes was a Bonzo, and he was of course the songwriter of the Rutles
   material as well as the Lennon character.

Bruce



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From: tp923083@pine.canberra.edu.au (Simon Porritt)
Subject: I wanna be your man
Summary: Wanna
Keywords: I
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:54:36 GMT


I know this isn't strictly Beatles, but people were talking about it the
other day...

You know that 'I wanna be you man' song that supposedly John Lennon and
Paul McCartney finished in front of the Stones and their manager,
thereby inspiring Jagger and Richards to write their own? Well, I found
the original single of that this morning and the songwriting credits do
indeed go to Lennon/McCartney. So there you go. It was a true story, or
so it would seem.  

  -Simon
From: waltersm@logica.co.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Beatles Anomalies more and more
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:54:12 GMT

> there wasn't more guitar at the start of "I'm looking through you"?
> Good call-- you got one of those differences.  The scholar will now go
> listen to the same bit on the old record-- of course we keep all old
> records for these purposes (don't YOU still have every Beatles record
> you've ever owned?  No?).  In this case, yes the Capitol stereo album
> has two false starts on that song, and no other version does.  This
> one has been called bogus, the false starts being Capitol's engineer
> screwing up by starting to play the master tape of the song twice and
> then stopping, but that has yet to be settled definitively.  The
> English Mr Lewsohn evidently did not think to check for it on the
> original tape and no one else with access has commented either.
Glad this isn't definitive - the first note of the first false start is
certainly plucked quite differently to that on the clean issue.  If you listen
to just the right hand channel (where the guitar isn't) it sounds very much
like the fader (on Paul's mic) is turned up at the time of the second false
start - sounds a little like coughing but not really loud enough to be sure.

Not sure whether it's been mentioned before, but the original stereo US Rubber
Soul also has a really dreadful mix of The Word - all the instruments in the
left - except to organ break which is in the right and the Shaker pans across
to join it!  John's `solo' vocal ("In the beginning...") is double tracked too.

MCW
From: dennis@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Dennis Alstrand)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:39:57 GMT
Subject: BEATLES POLL QUESTION
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles


Greetings fellow rmbers,


The Beatles polls of recent vintage seemed to be taken with some degree
of enthusiasm - at least it appeared there were no life-threatening flames.
So, when Steven Williams ran out of time to perform them, I felt it was
my duty - nay my destiny, nah, just my chance to make a contribution to
the group - to take over as pollster.

So. . .
=============================================================================
POLL RULES:

Please send replies to    dennis@hpwrc11.mayfield.hp.com

Please send no ties

I welcome any suggestions and ideas for better questions.

Note regarding question selection:
It's possible that, with some imaginative polling, we could come up
with some interesting cross-sectional views of the Beatles and their
legacy.  It was with that in mind that I came up with the first question.
==============================================================================

QUESTION - 

A lot of the Beatles' singles were classic singles.  It's an art form that's
probably been lost to the ages, even with the cd singles.  When it came to
packaging ONE (or many times TWO) songs, there may never have been better
than the Beatles: the way those great openings sounded on the radio, the
sound of the instruments, the voices. . .

WHICH BEATLES SINGLE, THEN, HAD THE MOST ALL-AROUND IMPACT ON YOU?


Please include your birthyear and the country you lived in during heaviest
Beatle impact time.


Thanks very much - in advance - for any participation in this poll.  And, it's
your poll so if you have ideas for improvement, pass them on. . . 
=============================================================================

dennis@hpwrc11.mayfield.hp.com

"They look dead to me" - My Dad, to my brother, in answer to his question
of whether the Beatles were performing Revolution live on Ed Sullivan.
From: CGARNER@cmsa.gmr.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: Get Back / Supposed Beatle Songs
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:23:02 GMT
Organization: GM Research Labs

In article <1eid30INN5p3@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk>
cstadbg@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M J Brown) writes:

>
>I am posting the following questions for a friend who does not have net access
>
>Please e-mail answers etc to cstadbg@csv.warwick.ac.uk or post in newsgroup
>
>* First ... has anybody seen the lyrics to the original "Get back", which were
>  along the lines of "Don't dig no pakistanis..." ... They are mentioned in
>  Lewisohn, but as far as I know never published. Have they turned up on a
>  bootleg / outtakes album?
>
I don't think the line is "I don't dig no Pakastanis....".  From a Rolling
Stone interview, Paul remarked that this portion of the song was indeed

ANTI racism and was something to the effect of "25 Pakastanis living
in a (insert London area) flat....".  A social comment on the sub-
standard living conditions of this ethnic group at this time.

Boot?....Don't know.


cg
From: maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: The Rutles (was Re: Various questions...)
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:56:50 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <randall.722315607@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>prokopy@en.ecn.purdue.edu (dave) writes:
>
>>>So where do songs like Goose Step Mama, Baby Let Me Be, Blue Suede Schubert,
>>>Between Us, It's Looking Good, and Get Up and Go come from?  Are these
>>>songs from the film only and not on the soundtrack?
>>they were in the movie, and released as bonus tracks on the rhino cd
>>(two years ago?).
>
>I don't believe they were in the film.  They were not on the 1978 LP.
>They were issued on the Rhino CD only.
>
	Most of the above songs were inin the film, but were 
presumably left off the original album because of copyright 
difficulties at the time as 'Get Up And Go' was too similar
to 'Get Back' and so on...(this is my theory, anyway).
	'Goose Step Mama' is sung by the Rutles in the Cavern. 'Between
Us' is heard while they are go-karting and signing autographs, 'It's
Looking Good' is played at Shea Stadium and 'Get Up And Go' is over
the opening titles and played in the rooftop concert. 'Baby Let Me
Be' and 'Blue Suede Schubert' were recorded during the sessions for
the album but not used in the film.
					Jonathan Morris
From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.beatles
Subject: Re: The Rutles (was Re: Various questions...)
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:02:16 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Morris) writes:

>>I don't believe they were in the film.  They were not on the 1978 LP.
>>They were issued on the Rhino CD only.
>>
>	Most of the above songs were inin the film, but were 
>presumably left off the original album because of copyright 
>difficulties at the time as 'Get Up And Go' was too similar
>to 'Get Back' and so on...(this is my theory, anyway).

I think it had to do with album-length than (c)'s.  I can't see "Get
Up and Go" being any closer to "Get Back" than "With A Girl Like You"
is to "If I Fell".

>							'Baby Let Me
>Be' and 'Blue Suede Schubert' were recorded during the sessions for
>the album but not used in the film.

These two were obviously left off because in addition to not having
enough room on the LP, they weren't used in the film, so noone would
miss 'em.

					James Willer
[any opinions above are already registered with the federal government]