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From: regy106@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: diskcache problem on second disk.
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:12:32 GMT

Hi,
	Thanks for the people who replyed with my 'copy the system to a second
disk' problem.  It work well.  At the moment and until I convince myself that
all is ok, I am booting off the second disk which is partition E:.  C: is my old
disk, D: is my DOS partition (on the second drive) and E: is a logical 
partition with os/2.  When I boot up the config.sys has an error:
the diskcache command does not accept AE:E as a parameter.  Is this because it
is not a primary partition?
Thanks, John
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: oylonen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Otso Yl|nen (OSY))
Subject: Red icons with "FS"???
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:43:01 GMT

A  friend  of  mine  has  problems  in  installing  2.0 on a Silicon Valley
486-33.  He has installed twice (reformatting in between) ending up to same
situation each time.

The  symptoms  are: the installation proceeds without any oddities but most
of  the  desktop  icons remain missing. There are two mysterious icons, red
balls  with text "FS" in yellow on the desktop. These icons seem to be some
kind  of  objects with a pop-up menu (containing the following items: Open,
Settings,  Delete).  They  can be deleted but they appear again after a re-
boot. The system always hangs completely after a few minutes of usage.

HW components:
        - 120M HD (FAT)
        - VGA
        - 16 Megs of memory

Other software:
        - MS-DOS 5.0 (dual boot)

There's   no   problems  with  a  Silicon  Valley  486-50  with  a  similar
configuration.

_____________________
        Otso Yl|nen :__________________________________________
        Phone      office +358-81-551 4131, home +358-81-365292
        Mail       Talvikkitie 18 A 2, SF-90580 Oulu, Finland
        Internet   oylonen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
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From: ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: rc binary for emx-0.8e --  where can I find it?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 18:13:14 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

In article <1992Oct14.223032.19594@mercury.cair.du.edu> ssinglet@cassandra.cair.du.edu (LaserJock) writes:
>I have just installed the emx-0.8e package for os/2.  The docs say to
>use "rc -r" to generate resource files, but rc is apparently not part
>of the emx archive files.  I looked through hobbes, but don't seem to
>be able to find the rc executables.  Could someone enlighten me?  I'm
>very new at this, so please use lots of detail....
>Thank you for your help.....

It's on your computer! rc comes with OS/2

>
>Steve
>ssinglet@du.edu
>


-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
jpm: ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca         
                            Happily using OS/2 2.0 because MS Windows isNT ___
                                                      Insert VapourFeature ^^^
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bmf@dlogics.com (Brian Fitzpatrick)
Subject: WINHELP complains that "Bookmarks are damaged"
Organization: Datalogics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:14:51 GMT
Summary: Accessing help under a WIN*OS2 session complains that bookmarks are dam
Keywords: winhelp help os2 bug bookmark

When accessing help from a windows program running in a seamless window,
I get the following error message:

"Bookmarks are damaged; exit WINHELP and delete WINHELP.BMK"

If I exit help, and call it up again, the error message does not come
back.  If I remove the os2/mdos/winos2/winhelp.bmk file, the error goes
away as well, however it will reappear the next time I boot the
machine.

Any ideas or suggestions on how to cure this permanently would
be appreciated.  Thanks.
-- 
+---------------------------------------------------------+
| Brian Fitzpatrick * Systems Engineer * (bf@dlogics.com) |
| Datalogics, Inc. * 441 W. Huron * Chicago, IL 60610     |
+---------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee)
Subject: gcc 222 libman, how to read?
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 18:35:58 GMT

I know this isn't really a subject for this group but
since in the gcc group nobody seems to reply to anything
I will ask it here anyway.

I tried formatting the <file>.2 and <file>.3 with nroff but
they contain loads of unknown commands. There are several
that might be in the wrong case, like I exspect Sh to be in
fact .SH but there's even more that can't be converted
like that.
So can someone tell me HOW I should format them?

Erik


-- 
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   We are god, 'cause only we can create the idea of his existence
   in our holy brains...  (Yello)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: williams@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Kent Williams)
Subject: Deleting Desktop files, and other dumb OS/2 User tricks
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:12:03 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

Simple, really stupid question:  How did I get TWO desktops???  I've
got one that appears to be the one that WPS has open, and another that
just seems to hang around for no good reason.

From a command prompt, I see the following directories

OS!2 21.0 Desktop
OS!2 2.0 Desktop

The latter hasn't been accessed in quite a while.  WPS won't let me delete
it.  I deleted the former directory, and was greeted with a blank blue
desktop.  I was able to reinstall from floppies and it rebuilt it.

Can I delete the second one?  How can I get back to ONE desktop???
I'm perplexed.
--
Kent Williams -- williams@cs.uiowa.edu Work(335-4496) Home(338-6053)
There used to be an inflammatory quote here.
From: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael D Kretzer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: 2nd mono monitor in OS/2
Date: 8 Oct 1992 23:22:11 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Oct7.210038.4710@networx.com>, by mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere):
> I have a server program running at all times on my OS/2 2.0 machine,
> and I'd like it to continuously display it's status on my old mono
> card.  From trivial command line testing, (MODE command), it appears
> that the OS will only write to the display that has the focus.  The
> other process will be suspended until the focus returns to it.
> 
> Is this correct?  Can I get aroundd this programatically

Yes, OS/2 2.0 includes only limited support for a 2nd monitor.  However,
someone has written a program which includes a driver that will continuously
update one OS/2 session on a monochrome monitor in the background.  It
is availabled from hobbes.nmsu.edu in /pub/os2/all/drivers/ecomon12.zoo.

Unfortunately, the program seems to bomb if you run a DOS session while
it's running.  It is possible that the author might have a DOS-session
aware version out (updated for 2.0 of course).  My 'solution' has been
to avoid running DOS programs (not a problem for me)...I typically will
run TE/2 or something else in an ecomon session, so I can watch a
download progress while I'm working on something else on my other monitor.
I tried sending a check to register for this program (it is shareware),
but my mail got sent back as return to sender, so I don't know if this
guy is still around or not.
From: john.hines@scintill (John Hines) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: RE: CIVILIZATION UNDER OS
Date: 10 Oct 92 08:45:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Scintillation BBS - Lombard, Illinois - 708-953-4922
Reply-To: john.hines@scintill (John Hines) 

hafting@Lise.Unit.NO (Helge Hafting) writes:
-> I have got civilization to run under os/2, and it is faster than dos
-> because of HPFS.  But it is slow when I start the game, but when I do
-> the first attack on an enemy, it speeds up to normal.
-> After that, the speed is normal all the time.

There is a fixed version available.  I got it from CI$, I don't know
if its available anywhere else.
From: jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: cd-rom: 1. Developer's 2. Future Domain
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:31:50 GMT
Organization: University of Maine, Department of Computer Science

In article <92280.154509TPERMUTT@UMAB.BITNET> TPERMUTT@UMAB.BITNET (Thomas Permutt) writes:
>1.  Is there anything about the Developer's CD-ROM that requires it to be
>used in native OS/2 mode?  That is, if the drive doesn't work in OS/2, could
>I still copy the files off in a DOS box (or in DOS)?
According to a rep on compuserve (I posted the same question 2 days ago)
you are able to copy the files onto the hard disk and install the appropriate
pieces then.  He said "it kind of defeats the purpose of the CD, though."
I disagree, with the exception of the mass amounts of documentation on that
CD.  If I can install and get the products that I need (C++, CSet/2)
I'm happy.

>
>2.  OS/2 as shipped is said to be able to use certain CD-ROM drives provided
>they are connected through an IBM, Future Domain or Adaptec SCSI adapter.
>Does this include the Future Domain 8-bit one, which is about 1/4 the price
>of the most widely recommended Adaptec 1542B?  As I understand it, the speed
>of the drive itself is limiting, so there should be no great disadvantage
>to the 8-bit adapter if it works.  Does anyone have any reason to think it
>does or not?
As far as I know, they say future domain (FD) adapters, and they don't mention
which ones.  I would take that to mean that FD did the drivers for this and
made them ALL work.  Yes, the speed of the drives is limiting, *but*
I would consider how much you use it more important than how fast the drive
is.  If you are going to use it a LOT, WITH A LOT GOING ON IN THE BACKGROUND
from accessing the CD, consider something a little more speedy with DMA
capabilities.  I don't know if the 8-bit FD adapter is based upon DMA or
PIO (Programmed I/O -- requires a lot more direct CPU time).

This also depends upon the "Brain-deadedness" of your machine, if you  have
ISA bus.  Some of these machines actually shutdown the CPU while bus-mastering
is in effect.  Thus, you won't get *as* great of an improvement with multi-
tasking as you *could*.

Jeff



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From: ileicht@jarthur.claremont.edu (Spiff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 won't mulitask >320x200 graphics in a window
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:04:40 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

I know that OS/2 can do this and I have even done this before.

It seems that whenver i try and get a graphics program to the
desktop it gives me an error that OS/2 does not support that
graphics mode...

EI have a trident 8900 and am runing an 800x560x256 desktop.

I know that it has worked before... whats the deal?? 

Sometimes the OS/2 graphcis drivers get messed up. Like if I
switch back to a dso full screen window I just get garbage.
This problem just happens randomly and effets all sessions
from the time of boot... often I can just restart and it will
be okay...

What is with this inconsistency??
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Why XGA-2?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:39:35 GMT

In article <16104@umd5.umd.edu> adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:
>IBM has promised the CSD since June.  It was June CSD, then Sept CSD, then
>October 15 CSD, and now I just read it's been delayed again.  If IBM can't
>get a fixed version of OS/2 and the 32-bit GRE out, then how the hell can
>we expect all these other companies to get drivers out for it??  

IBM has not promised the CSD since June.

Follow up to comp.os.os2.advocacy.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wkn@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ken Neighbors)
Subject: Re: Why do windows move around?
Summary: They're probably "maximized"
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 01:43:32 GMT

>>PROBLEM: You are running a cmd.exe or 4os2.exe session inside of a window. It
>>is located in the middle of your desktop. You execute a DOS app from said
>>commandline, your 4os2.exe window disappears, and the VDM session window
>>opens (in an unpredictable location at that). You get done with the dos
>>app and exit, and your original 4os2.exe window is now repositioned at the
>>upper left hand corner of the desktop (started in the middle before the DOS
>>app). What gives with this? It looks kludgy enough to have a window disappear
>>and another for the DOS session appear, but when the original moves....!?
>>I'm not flaming IBM or OS/2. I just want an answer on *why* this happens, and
>>if anyone knows if it will be fixed in the Service Pack, Beta, or CSD, (insert
>>you favorite name for the 'enhanced product' here), etc.???k

Did you "maximize" your window?  I've found that if I click the maximize
button in the upper right that this will happen.  Now I manually maximize
the window by dragging the corners, just to get the window to stay where
I want it too.  I wish this problem was fixed.

Along these lines:  Is it possible to make an OS/2 command window open
at the same position and size each time?  (Note that I've got the command
"mode co80,40" in the settings.)

Ken Neighbors
wkn@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: WPS Lockup
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 04:16:05 GMT

Carl D. Sanger (sangercd@nextnet.csus.edu) wrote:
> 
> The only problem is if you incorrectly type the password, you have to wait
> for the timeout period (just 1 minute in the above case) before OS/2 will
> accept another password attempt.  So if you plan to the Lockup as a screen
> blanker only, pick a simple password.  I use the space bar.

You have to wait? From memory (I don't use lockup anymore) You just had to
press return and then enter the password again. My timeout was set to 5
minutes, I would have noticed something like this.

As an alternative for people who want to have a screen blanker but no
lockup, get scrutil from ftp-os2 (or is it scrutl?). It blanks your screen
after a configurable time period of inactivity and comes back with either a
keypress or mouse movement. You can also force screen blanking by moving
the mouse pointer to the top right of the screen or inhibit it by moving to
the bottom right. It also has a little date/time/free_mem PM window.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
From: Sean.Milligan@f1.n100.z60.wlink.nl (Sean Milligan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Help, I need a VGA Config.sys file
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 07:49:03 -0100

Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


	Please help me.  I tried to install the 8514/A graphic drivers using
Selective install but instead I just disabled my moniter.
	
	Now when I try to boot OS/2, after the introductory OS/2 Logo screen
my screen goes blank.

	I need someone to E-mail me their CONFIG.SYS (With OS/2 installed with
the VGA option) so that I can replace my none working CONFIG.SYS file.

		Thanks in advance,
		
			MTS@HARDY.U.WASHINGTON.EDU

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ryan@pecan.cns.udel.edu (daron ryan)
Subject: Can't install OS/2 Ver 1.3
Keywords: Install 
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:36:24 GMT

Hi Netters,  
  I'm having a bit of trouble installing OS/2 ver 1.3 on my system (I just
got it, so please excuse me).  The book says nothing about installation, 
only a chapter on how to customize installation.  The Installation disk only
contains the following executable files, and the error messages each of them
gives me when I try to run them:

  sysinst1.exe  Cannot be run in DOS mode.
  sysinst2.exe  Cannot be run in DOS mode.
  harderr .exe  Cannot be run in DOS mode.
  cmd     .exe  Cannot be run in DOS mode.
  
  fdisk   .com  Cannot be run in DOS mode.
  sysinstx.com  SYS1210: The process cannot be completed.  You 
                are using an incorrect version of the 
                operating system.
                Internal error occured.
                Incorrect function.
  
  What am I doing wrong?   I have a 286 system with VGA, 52MB HD (32MB and 
20MB partitions), VGA, 2MB of memory, and I'm currently running MS-DOS 3.3.
Could 3.3 be my problem?  
  I have also tried just booting the system on the intallation disk, and it
gives me the OS/2 intro line of text, then just crashes and spins the disk.
  ANY help that you could give me would be GREATLY appreciated!  Thanks in 
advance!!!

{:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::}
{:: Daron W. Ryan           :: ryan@freezer.cns.udel.edu ::  |  |  |-\  ::}
{:: University of Delaware  :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::  |  |of| |  ::}
{:: Business Administration, Computer Science Minor      ::  |__|  |_/  ::}
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Email reader for OS/2
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:49:30 GMT

In article <1bfs5bINNds5@gap.caltech.edu> Andrew Tong writes:
>Is there an email reader or news packet reader available for OS/2?

The mailer elm and the newsreaders SNews and trn have been ported to
OS/2.  You can retrieve them via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

On the commercial side there are several mail packages (e.g. Lotus
cc:Mail).  IBM's TCP/IP comes with a sample application called RN (for
reading news).

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HPFS access from DOS?
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:52:27 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct16.123243.17260@watson.ibm.com> cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler) writes:
>In  <92288.115917ANDY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>  ANDY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Andrew T. Robinson) writes:
>>We've got some applications which simply won't run in OS/2 VDMs so
>>we need to keep DOS 5.0 around and boot standalone.   The question I
>>have is, is there any way that standalone DOS can access HPFS partitions?
>>I'd prefer to format for HPFS and leave FAT behind, but I also have the
>>need for DOS to be able to access data on the hard disk(s).
>
>1) DOS (at this time) cannot use HPFS drives.

But DOS can directly read sectors off of any patition type.  If the
(detailed) internal description of HPFS (including headers with
structs) is available, some enterprising programmer should be able to
write an application to transfer files onto and off of HPFS drives
from DOS.

Of course, DOS could never accept HPFS as a mounted drive, since the
filenames and EA's don't fit, and the driver would occupy all of
memory.  But an application can use all of memory if it has to, so
this idea might be plausible.
-- 
David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why XGA-2?
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:03:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Oct13.160306.15704
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Oct12.222518.12059@news.columbia.edu> am66@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Alexander Maldutis) writes:
>I'm curious:  why all the big fuss about XGA-2?  I agree that IBM should be 
>commended for once more introducing a new standard, this time with real
>functionality, bu the specs of the board just don't excite me.  Given that
>ATI will be shipping its Ultra Plus and Pro series, which do 800x600 in 24
>bits, 1024x768 in 65K and 1280x1024 in 256, what are the real advantages of
>XGA?  As a current owner of an ATI Ultra, I find 1024x768x256 too limiting
>for OS/2, especially since IBM still has not implemented dynamic pallette
>adjustment [it's pretty sad when my WIN-OS2 session has a much prettier
>background than OS/2, not to mention file viewing and such].  To my 
>knowledge, the ATI boards won't be that terribly more expensive than the XGA,
>and give you putatively faster performance with more colors.

Why is XGA-2 important?

(1) Support for up to eight adapters/monitors in a single system.
(2) An IBM standard, just like VGA.  Meaning you won't have to muck
about trying to find a driver.
(3) Bus mastering.  Apparently even on the AT bus.
(4) Fully extensible.  It is the "last" graphics standard -- vendors
are free to add additional modes as hardware advances.  Even the
coprocessor can be replaced.  All without breaking the standard.
(5) Intelligent querying of monitor/adapter capabilities.  The
software can respond depending on what modes are available on a given
machine.
(6) A VESA standard, meaning it has widespread industry support.
(7) It is actually _less_ expensive than the ATI cards.
(8) Much faster than XGA(1).  (We need to wait on the benchmarks -- it
isn't clear ATI will be faster now.)
(9) Full (and standard) customization for your monitor.

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From: qazia@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Qazi Ahmad)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Upgrading OS/2 Ver 2.0 witth win 3.0 to win 3.1?
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:21:14 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hello,
   Is it true that there is an upgrage for OS/2 with win 3.0 to Os/2 with win 3.1?  Somebody told me that it was 2 1.44 disks with the upgrade...

Anyone else know about this?

Ahmad
qazia@JSP.UMontreal.ca
 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ralf@ubka.uni-karlsruhe.de (Ralf Grohmann)
Subject: Changing Font for Shadowed Text
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:28:09 GMT

Hello!

How can I change the color of the text of shadowed icons (which is 
usually a little grayed out and quite unreadable under any color except
for the standard light grey background)?

I can easily change the color for the normal icon text (by using
Ctrl-MB2 to drag the color from the palette), but I haven't found a
way to do this for shadowed icons. 

The entry for Reference(Text) in the Layout-Manager doesn't do this thing,
and the 'symbol text' - entry changes only the original icon texts. 

Any hints appreciated.

Ralf

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