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From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Keywords: Sun, Display PostScript
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 00:23:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.224301.25461@athena.mit.edu> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>In article <1jpl1eINNbsq@tamsun.tamu.edu> daugher@cs.tamu.edu writes:
	[article text mostly deleted]

>>Q. Is DPS a standard?
>>
>>A. Though DPS is not a sanctioned standard, it is fast 
>>becoming a de facto UNIX standard. All major Unix platform 
>>vendors (SGI, IBM, DEC, NCD, etc.), except Hewlett-Packard, support DPS.
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>What about NeXT??  Sun intentionally did not mention NeXT, even though they
>were the leaders of the DPS bandwagon.  Boy are they ever feeling the heat!


	No conspiracy, probably.  NeXT is not a major UNIX platform 
	vendor in the same league (i.e., machines shipped) as the others
	named.  Data General, NeXT and so on are all covered by "etc."

>
>
>>--
>>Walter C. Daugherity			Internet, NeXTmail: daugher@cs.tamu.edu
>
>Eric
>
>


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From: brandner@dia.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de (Mirko Brandner)
Subject: No printing with WriteNow possible
Originator: brandner@dia
Organization: Informatik, Uni Stuttgart, W.Germany
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:00:28 GMT

Hi to all you blackbiest addicts,
please help me with my little problem.

I cannot print from WriteNow any longer. It happened all the sudden that
after pressing the Print button in the print panel I got ( and still get )
an error message. After I click OK in the poped up panel the mouse pointer 
is spinning wildly and the text cursor shows the same strange behaviour.
Every other printing works just fine.So I took my backup copy of WN. And
the same strange things happen. Only running WN under root is possible, any
other account won't do.
To see more error messages I started WN from a shelland I get pages of the 
following : DPS client library error: cannot write to connection context ?????

Hey, what is going on here , does NS refuse to print for WN :-) ?
As I said any other app is working. Are there any hidden files etc.?
I scanned the default database and the whole disk, couldn't find anything!

I use WN 2.0 from the NS 2.1 under NS3.0.

Please answer soon, thanks in advance, Mirko.

Mirko Brandner, Senefeldetstr. 102 , 7000 Stuttgart 1, Germany, +49711 6364432

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From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (MATIS stephane)
Subject: Re: Questions about PasteUp
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:25:22 GMT

In article <1k5mlpINNq31@pith.uoregon.edu> bjorn@darmok.uoregon.edu (Bjorn S. Fjeld Pettersen) writes:
>Hi,
>I'm using a demo version of PasteUp, and I am having some problems.
>
>1) how do you make a template (and how do you use it :)?
>2) how do you insert a plain text/rtf document?
>3) how do you get it to insert pages as you need new ones (prefferably using  
>your template :)
>
>So far I like PasteUp, but I get lost and I can't seem to figure out anything  
>*sigh*.  I have to return to FrameMaker everytime I need something out fast...  

	Sorry to bother, but how does one get a Demo copy. I finally
have enough disk space to try a few programs out ... and PasteUp seem an
inevitable choice ....

>BTW, what's with the "you can't do that... RTFM at page x" message (gently  
>paraphrased :)

	Nonone ever said Glenn and Co. were subtle :)
>
>--bjorn
>
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>bjorn@doek.uoregon.edu                       NextMail Welcomed
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+---------------------------------+   ___     ___       ___
| Stephane I. Matis               |  /   \_BATLLETECH  /\__\ Viva NeXT! 
| E-Mail : kgnome@cs.concordia.ca |  \___/   \___/     \/__/ NeXTSTEP 3.0!
| "It Just Works..." - Steve Jobs |      \___/   
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From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT ModPlayers (Cf. Getting more space ...)
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:16:44 GMT
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

Michael Glenn writes

> 69929 ModPlayer_V2.5.tar.Z
> 44327 ModPlayer_V2.5.tar.squfile
> 38541 ModPlayer_V2.5.tar.z

> So gzip gives the maximum compression.

Great, but how about using ".zip" to avoid confusion? :-)

--
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Adobe Systems Incorporated               These are *my* opinions, and  
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900        do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900             the opinions of my employer.
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compression for the archives ( was: Drive drive)
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:37:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison

In article <1993Jan27.170859.11489@steggie.mtview.ca.us>
eric@steggie.mtview.ca.us writes:

>The source of FTP is generally available.   Why not modify FTP do all
>the compressing/uncompressing on the users behalf.  Any worthwhile
>compression scheme could be used (zip, gzip, perhaps even a command
>line version of squash, if it exists)  

Yet Another Standard (YAS)?  But your point is rendered
moot, I think, by the next factoid:

>A person submitting a file would just ftp it to an archive sight and
>ftp would pipe the file through some compression algorithm and onto
>the disk.  Likewise when one extracts a file from the archive the
>file is decompressed (if it was compressed in the first place) and 
>given to the user. 

One of the advantages of compression is that it saves
connect time, which is something many people have to pay for
in hard currency.  In many cases it also saves bandwidth.
For small files, these savings are not very significant,
probably, but for big transfers (large files or whole
directories) the savings can be pretty impressive.

>This way the people submitting and the people retrieving data need 
>never concern themselves with how the data is stored just that it's 
>accessible.

You've forgotten the Golden Rule: those with the gold make
the rules.  :-)

-- 
[Jess Anderson <> Madison Academic Computing Center <> University of Wisconsin]
[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
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From: lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (Jim LeBay)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: new release of NeXT Gopher client - version 1.3.2
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:40:39 GMT
Reply-To: lebay@msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.cl.msu.edu

I have recently uploaded version 1.3.2 of the NeXT Gopher client to several  
archives.  You can retrieve:

/pub/gopher/NeXT/Gopher_1.3.2.tar.Z       from  boombox.micro.umn.edu
/pub/next/submissions/Gopher_1.3.2.tar.Z  from  sonata.cc.purdue.edu
/pub/next/submissions/Gopher_1.3.2.tar.Z  from  cs.orst.edu


New features - version 1.3.2
============================
- support for image type 'I' in addition to type 'g' (GIF)
- support for binary files of types: '4' (BinHex), '5' (DOS archive), 
  '6' (uuencode) and '9' (raw binary).  Files are saved directly to disk.
- fixed a bug with launching Terminal under NeXTStep 3.0

Features added in version 1.3
=============================
* mini-icons are used in the browser to identify Gopher-types
* added support for GIF graphics files (type 'g')
- the Find menu is fully implemented - including a Find Panel
- fixed-width font (Ohlfs) used in the text window
- larger default window size
- Gopher will remember whenever you change its window size
- 'play' (for sounds) is bundled into an .app wrapper
- removed limitation on size of text files
- Alternate-clicking on an item will update its "Item info"
  without retrieving its contents
- a default has been added to allow listing all items in the 
  browser, including unsupported types.  In a Terminal window 
  you must do "dwrite Gopher ShowAllTypes YES".
- "Open..." remembers previous connection information
- double-clicks in the browser are ignored
- window closes when Gopher fails to open a new connection
- better error detection & notification
- fixed bug when closing a window from the menu (Command-w)
- fixed bug when selecting text items following an Index
- other minor improvements and bug fixes

---------
Jim LeBay                            (517) 353-1800
Computer Information Center          lebay@msu.edu
Michigan State University            lebay@mercury.cl.msu.edu (NeXTmail)
*=*=*   I feel better than James Brown!   *=*=*
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From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: Information on ordering NeXT 3.0 Documentation from Addison-Wesley
Reply-To: Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:02:52 GMT

In <1k202vINNcil@menudo.uh.edu> sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:
>Can anyone provide me with ordering information for the NeXT 3.0  
>documentation

I'm still happy to sell complete sets (8 books) for $224.06 with 
free U.S. shipping, which probably brings the over-all discount to 
20% or so from the base 15% implicit in our special Usenet price.  
All orders must be paid in advance (by check, Visa, or MasterCard) 
to receive that price.  

Regular pricing:  We also give free shipping on orders for 
individual titles or for other Addison-Wesley books (eg., the 
PostScript books) ordered at the same time, with a 5% discount if 
the total order exceeds $60 at list price and a 10% discount if it 
exceeds $240. 

If you need additional information (within reason, like a price 
list; this is just a sideline and a favor to Usenet readers), 
please let me know.  We prefer to receive orders by e-mail, but 
they should include phone and, if available, fax numbers too, 
because questions arise and people make typing mistakes.  

I am no longer taking orders for the Garfinkel/Mahoney book because 
it was too time-consuming and difficult handling our first 105 
copies.  If you really want that series, Springer-Verlag, the 
publisher, will be happy to sell to you directly; then you can call 
_them_ instead of calling me when they don't ship as promised.  I 
can't spare that much of my assistant's time or my own.  

Regards,
 - Irving
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 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor.   NextMail OK
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From: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: Any paid Internet connection in ChicagoLand area?
Reply-To: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:58:10 GMT

Hi,

	A friend of mine needs to get the internet connection in the  
ChicagoLand area. Can anyone recommend some with their monthly/annual  
charge?

Thanks,


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+----------------+
| Gary I. Chang	 |
+----------------+   
Northwestern Univ.      E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu
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From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Getting more space on Sonata.
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:06:02 GMT

Erik C. Sowa writes

> One person's opinion: I hate packages for freeware/shareware. I
> end up looking inside the .pkg directory and unpacking the .tar.Z
> directly with Opener.app. I like to see what's inside before I
> install. The idea of a new user simply double-clicking to install
> a .pkg obtained from the net is a little scary to me. I do some
> risky things along those lines, but at least I'm aware of the
> potential consequences.

Uhm, howzabout simply double-clicking on the package and hitting
"List"?  What's so terribly difficult about that?  Besides, packages
let you have files go into different spots, and allow for their
easy removal.

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Adobe Systems Incorporated               These are *my* opinions, and  
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900        do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900             the opinions of my employer.
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From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Subject: Re: Silly NeXT question from user who should know the answer
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:30:46 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.232845.12294@cs.yale.edu> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu writes:
>I'm going to catch hell for now knowing this, but...
>
>How can a user "inform" the FileViewer that files with certain
>extensions should have a corresponding app selected as the default
>launch app?  It's easy enough to select an app already displayed in the
>Tools panel of the inspector, but how does one add a new choice?  Dragging
>an icon into that area doesn't seem to work (it should!)... 

You have to edit the __header portion of the __ICON segment of the
App.  The best way to do it is to pull it out of the App with
SegHoarker and change it with Edit.

The format goes a little something like this:


S	<extension>	<app name>	<icon name>


Those are tabs and not spaces...  So if you want to make Edit the
default app for tiff files for some reason, put this in the __header
portion of Edit:

S tiff Edit unknown


This will make Edit appear in the tools inspector.  Unknown just tells
the workspace to get the icon from somewhere else (in this case from
the OS, which already has a tiff icon).


andrew
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Cube Technologies, Inc.  |  own design." - Erendis      FYEO Public Key:
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: eugene@nshade.uah.ualberta.ca (Eugene Mah)
Subject: Re: Drive drive and gzip
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Distribution: comp.sys.next.hardware
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:08:40 GMT

In article <!#p30+=@rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)  
writes:
> 
> > I have a feeling that most system administrators would back me up on
> > that point!  In my experience, zip (or gzip) would reduce the disk  
needs
> > by up to %40, which is a pretty substantial improvement.  Furthermore,
> > compression is free and works even if new disk space is purchased,
> > so investment in a reasonable compression scheme is going to keep
> > paying back in the future.
> 
> Does the new gzip compile on older versions of NeXTSTEP?
> 

Forgive my ignorance, but what is gzip?  And where can i get it?
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           ----> spandex_ninja@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca (nonNeXT-Mail)
grad student/sys admin
Department of Radiology
University of Alberta Hospitals
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: @%$%!! printer jams paper!!
From: stubbs@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Jerry Stubbs)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:37:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Kansas Computer Science Dept

Our laser printer keeps jamming, and not on the saxophone.
We are using the same old paper, etc. It works about 30%
of the time, and then it jams some paper. Anybody else 
have this problem? It is a few years old, maybe it needs
an overhaul.  I know this printer uses the same cartridge
as the Apple IINT, is it the same mechanism inside?


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Cheapo 2.88MB floppy disks
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:52:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.141440.5702@qb.rhein-main.de> vhs@qb.rhein-main.de  
(Volker Herminghaus-Shirai) writes:

> > Extended Density 2.88MB floppy disks for less than half the cost of Toshiba
> > disks.  Of course, they also sell the floppy drives that use them! You can
> > reach them at 1-800-CUBE-RTE.  Bug them, they like it.  
> 
> Anybody have an international (phone, fax, email) address for Cube Route?
> I checked the FAQ but didn't find it.

The Cube Rte
(617) 876-8554

--
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Dept MB&B	# Upon your cross I bleed the thoughts that I've been hiding.
Yale Univ/HHMI	# I'm all used up; there's not much more for me to give.
New Haven, CT	# Echoes of the life that we all want to live."

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From: randall@redfish.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Subject: Re: Business Week article
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:12:43 GMT
Reply-To: sh.atmos.colostate.edu (Dave Randall)
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <MS-C.727314477.1103527590.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>  
mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) writes:
> Anyone read the Business Week article about NeXT yet?  Looks grim.


I read it and thought that it was fundamentally upbeat. It praised NeXTSTEP  
pretty highly. It repeated the tantalizing HP rumor. (When are we going to hear  
something definite about that????) It mentioned the 4th quarter operating  
profit.


The company is undergoing major changes, and it is natural for people to leave  
when this happens, either because they are asked to leave or because they  
resent the changes in their working environment. The new president obviously  
has a lot to do with this, and I would guess that Canon brought him in to do  
just what he is doing. The personnel changes don't worry me, and neither does  
the new emphasis on software. I do hope that hardware is not droppped  
altogether though, because spray painting HP boxes black is going to be a pain  
in the ass.
From: billk@rose.apl.washington.edu (Bill Kooiman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Compression for the archives ( was: Drive drive)
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:07:10 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: rose.apl.washington.edu

In article <1993Jan27.170859.11489@steggie.mtview.ca.us> steggie!eric  
(Eric Fronberg) writes:
> I've been watching from afar the discussions of Disk space vs a  new
> compression technique used on the NeXT archives and wanted add some
> input of how to deal with additional compression on the archives.  
> 
> The source of FTP is generally available.   Why not modify FTP do all
> the compressing/uncompressing on the users behalf.  Any worthwhile
> compression scheme could be used (zip, gzip, perhaps even a command
> line version of squash, if it exists) ...
> 

Wouldn't this lead to increased the traffic on the net?  Because you would  
be sending uncompressed versions around.  This would be especially  
difficult for people running via modems.

--Bill
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: steggie!eric (Eric Fronberg)
Subject: Compression for the archives ( was: Drive drive)
Reply-To: eric@steggie.mtview.ca.us
Organization: Mountain View, Ca  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:08:59 GMT

I've been watching from afar the discussions of Disk space vs a  new
compression technique used on the NeXT archives and wanted add some
input of how to deal with additional compression on the archives.  

The source of FTP is generally available.   Why not modify FTP do all
the compressing/uncompressing on the users behalf.  Any worthwhile
compression scheme could be used (zip, gzip, perhaps even a command
line version of squash, if it exists)  

A person submitting a file would just ftp it to an archive sight and
ftp would pipe the file through some compression algorithm and onto
the disk.  Likewise when one extracts a file from the archive the
file is decompressed (if it was compressed in the first place) and 
given to the user. 

This way the people submitting and the people retrieving data need 
never concern themselves with how the data is stored just that it's 
accessible.


-- eric


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| Mountain View CA |        ...!{sun,sgi,ultra}!steggie!eric |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: b_brottier@cubx.com
Subject: Article in Info'PC Feb 93 -- 20 pages about NeXTSTEP
Organization: Cub'X Systemes, France.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:15:17 GMT

Hi Netters,

This post is in fact destined for french people, because this article is  
written in a french magazine.

InfoPC is speaking this month about NeXTSTEP, NeXTSTEP486. About 20 pages and  
most of the articles are written by people who explain very well the features,  
power, flexibility of OOP, Objective-C, IB, PB, DBKit and so on. This is  
uncommon enough to be illuminate. 

French Netters, have a look to this issue.

InfoPc is currently Dos-Windoze oriented, belongs to IDG group.

Congratulations to Edmund Ronald, who posted here several times, and who wrote  
an excellent overview of the Programming Tools.

---------------------------
Bruno Brottier -- Responsable Formation
Societe improve sa,
41-41 bis, avenue de l'Europe - 78140 VELIZY - FRANCE
Tel : (+33) (1) 30 70 60 56   Fax : (+33) (1) 30 70 89 36
E-mail: b_brottier@cubx.com  -- [NeXTmail]
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Sun to use DisplayPostScript!!!
Date: 25 Jan 93 02:19:37 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com

Scott Hess writes

> [Disclaimer: I found out most of what I know about NeWS _after_ having
> worked on the NeXT for a couple years.  So, perhaps I was seeing some
> similarities that weren't really there.  But I do think that NeWS was
> written with the DPS documentation in mind :-).]

NeWS *predated* Display PostScript by a substantial margin, so they were
certainly not working from the DPS documentation when they implemented it.

The fact that Sun had already implemented NeWS was a major sticking point
in their (un)willingness to license DPS.  The fact that Sun had lots of
bugs in NeWS, coupled with the advent of PostScript Level II, which
represented an enormous amount of work on their part to be compatible,
might well have contributed to their eventual licensing of DPS.

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 RightBrain Software		415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
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