HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Crazy notation (was: chinook)
Date: 29 Aug 92 09:34:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohstpy.13551.2a9f0c58

In article <SJE.92Aug28184541@xylos.ma30.bull.com>, sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards) writes:
> In article <1992Aug28.213535.7250@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> gls@windmill.ATT.COM (Col. G. L. Sicherman) writes:
> # In <BtpCM0.Mzw@math.uwaterloo.ca>, alopez-o@neumann.uwaterloo.ca writes:
> #> 
> #> Well, at least for humans the rule is:
> #>   Don't try to play any faster because your opponent has little time.
> #> 
> #> Especially after a greatly hurried move from your opponent, chances 
> #> are you can obtain some positional advantage by playing a very fine 
> #> game against his non-optimal moves.
> #
> # In the Buffalo area the strategy of running yourself low on time to make
> # your opponent play carelessly was called the "Thrush Gambit" . . . I can't
> # imagine why!
> #
> # I've used it myself, once.
> #
> # RETI OPENING.  W. R. Tallmadge -- Sicherman, Club Tournament, Buffalo 1976.
> # 1. A- S- 2. 7XXU 31 3. F A- 4. 3C N 5. 4 7XS 6. T 3X1 7. N- 7XI 8. 34 H-
> # 9. 32 4
> 
> Golly, I think you better have your network transceiver checked for
> intermittent parity errors.
> 
> Alternatively, you could send for the free SAN Kit and build a
> notation translator program.  Preferably one that outputs moves that
> can be read by Earthlings.
> 
> If you really want to use a wacky notation, you could try something
> like the one I designed some time ago: mapping chess moves onto the
> IUPAC polymer naming schema.  Play a blindfold game with a friend in
> front of some chemists and watch them become confused beyond belief.

Don't be such a pompous ass. Maybe if you actually played checkers and
were good at it (naw you are a chess master i guess) you might
be able to decypher it. Please leave your ignorance at the doorstop.
Thanks!

-Garrett



> 
>  [The above opinions expressed are my own; not necessarily held by others.]
>       == Steven J. Edwards           Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
>       == (508) 294-3484              300 Concord Road         MS 820A ==
>       == sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com     Billerica, MA 01821          USA ==
> "That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson
From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Telechess is a rip off!!!
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:23:23
Organization: CSUA/UCB
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In-reply-to: phr@soda.berkeley.edu's message of 2 Sep 92 13:09:55

Curiosity got the better of me and I just called the Telechess 900
number, ext. 565 "don't miss a single move".  It only had the first
20 moves of game 1, and 24 moves have been posted here already!
There was a little bit of sketchy analysis and some local color,
e.g. it mentioned that Fischer was wearing a blue suit, that they
played this variation last in F-S I, game 10, and that Fischer deviated
from that game at move 13.  Supposedly there will be a full game
report at 9pm Eastern time.  But the value of news decreases with
age---at $2.00 per minute, I expect to hear live minute-by-minute
updates!  The recording on Telechess is at least a couple of hours
old, and I feel ripped off.  Anyone know a number where I can call
one of the people operating this service, and complain and hopefully
get my 2 or 4 bucks back?

Meanwhile, for those of you who were wondering what info you'd get
on that recording, now you know....

	--Paul
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: haefner@IASTATE.EDU (Ralph I Haefner)
Subject: Re: Classes and Ratings
Keywords: Chess Class Rating Norm
Reply-To: haefner@IASTATE.EDU (Ralph I Haefner)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:30:14 GMT

Read chess life you fool.

It is all explained there.

Or ask the excellent trainer who has made you the player you are today.
I am sure he knows everything about chess.

I'm not psychotic, just tired.

Ralph
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From: jarmo@ae.tut.fi (Jarmo Sorvari)
Subject: Re: Fischer wins game 1
Organization: Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland.
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:36:28


In article <23620@alice.att.com> ark@alice.att.com (Andrew Koenig) writes:
           :
           :
	   49.	Nbxd6	Ne6

		   1-0

The move listing in our text TV included 50. Qe5 as the last move.
However, the commentary mentioned that Spassky resigned after 49
moves.  I wonder if 50. Qe5 is officially the last move?  At least
that is the obvious crusher that decides the game.

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From: mzabel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Zabel)
Subject: Re: Fisher, Kasparov, Tal
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:13:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.162357.21733@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bwatkins@nyx.cs.du.edu (
The God of all machines) writes:
>
>Korchnoi was the last player with a style.  Karpov, Kasparov have none,
>much less Tal's!  (unless you think "dull" any "kewpie" are styles)

     Huh?  Don't you think that Ljubojevic, Shirov, or others
have any sort of style?  How about Basman? (sorry)

-Mark
From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Mate in 11 (was: Re: chinook)
Date: 29 Aug 92 10:11
Organization: Private Coherent 4.0.1 site Augsburg/Bavaria/Germany

hyatt@cis.uab.edu (Robert Hyatt) writes:
> 
> An example.  At the 1984 US open, we were playing in the speed
> event at Pasedena.  After having beaten several masters, IM's,
> etc, we were playing an 1800 player and Cray Blitz sac'ed its
> queen for an inexplicable reason when it appeared to be winning
> material.  Gutman (Korchnoi's second) said "machine make horrible
> blunder."  After we lost (pretty quickly, being a queen down) I
> asked him what he would have done, and reset Cray Blitz to that
> position but playing the 1800 player's side.  He suggested simply
> "take the rook and win easily."  I entered that move and cray
> blitz promptly announced a mate in 11 in less than one second.
> He was amazed.  I was sickened...... Cray Blitz chucked it's
> queen to avoid this mate in 11....

Would be very interesting to see this position.  Do you have it at hand
and can you post it?

Thanks!  --ralf
From: iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky news conference
Followup-To: rec.games.chess
Date: 2 Sep 1992 17:27:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, Office of the President
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Sep2.160611.1569@osf.org>, ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
wrote:
> 
>   I don't think you can use logic to explain Fischer. I think he's just
>   mentally ill. I feel sorry for him - and I feel sorry for chess. It can't
>   be good for the game to have a pathetic bigot like Fischer as the most
>   recognized chess player in the United States. Anything he does gets a lot
>   of publicity - but it seems that the publicity the game gets from Fischer
>   is very negative. Chess is much better off without Fischer in his current
>   offending state, and I'll ignore any of his matches wherever and whenever 
>   they are played - and urge all other to do so as well. I'm not forcing others 
>   to do so nor do I expect many others to agree with me. But as a chess player I 
>   am utterly ashamed of Fischer and cannot condone his actions or his play.
> 
> -Ron
> 

I felt very sad reading the news reports of the "press conference". Having
avidly followed the original Fischer-Spassky match, when Bobby went into
seclusion, I seriously thought he was mentally ill. Obviously, the
intervening years have not been kind. His paranoia and hatred is
increasing, more's the pity.

I'm really torn - on the one hand I think that anything that brings chess
to the public view is good, but someone listing to Fischer's rantings can
only conclude as have so many people that chess is a game played by strange
people who don't fit into the real world.

-----------
Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu
All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
University wanted me to speak for it.
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From: jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton)
Subject: PRIVATE:  Denis Milette -- can't reach you
Organization: Kenton Systems Corporation, Weston MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:55:09 GMT


Suddenly have lost the ability to reach: dmilette@panda1.uottawa.ca

Would like to continue our chess ladder game.

jeff


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From: hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu (Paul Hager)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky news conference
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:19:33 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

For the record, Fischer's current bizarreness is not really distinguishable
from past behavior.  An instructive book is "Bobby Fischer vs. the
Rest of the World", Brad Darrach's account of the 1972 match, which includes
biographical material on both players.  Fischer is in good company
when it comes to mental illness, though.  Remember Morphy -- and then
there was Steinitz who ended up challenging God to pawn and move odds.

Apropos of insanity in chess players, a movie I enjoyed was a German
film I saw some years back, titled (and I translate) "Black and White,
Like Day and Night".  It was about a fictional chess genius who had
abandoned the game as a child prodigy but returned to challenge the
world champion -- a Russian, of course.  The German player is a Fischer-type
(played by Bruno Ganz, if memory serves) but the peculiarities of a
number of historical players find their way into the character depicted
in the movie.  Part of the fun is to try and recognize which bizarre
behavior being exhibited is associated with which historical player.
Steinitz is definitely there, so's Nimzovitch, and, of course, Bobby
himself.
-- 
paul hager		hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu

"I would give the Devil benefit of the law for my own safety's sake."
                       --from _A_Man_for_All_Seasons_ by Robert Bolt
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: jph@hardy.u.washington.edu (Jeff Hanson)
Subject: Re: Correction! (Bishops and Queens)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:29:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.113921.15010@husc3.harvard.edu> elkies@ramanujan.harvard.edu (Noam Elkies) writes:
>In article <14495@mindlink.bc.ca> Bruce_Harper@mindlink.bc.ca
>(Bruce Harper) writes:
>>My mistake - the position I was thinking of was a position where if a Bishop
>>were on a certain square, that side would win, while if a Queen were there,
>>that side would lose.  Promotion was part of the puzzle, but it wasn't exactly
>>an example of e8 = B wins and e8 = Q loses.
 

	This ruse was propagated in Northwest Chess magizine in the 1970s by
the same author.  I never saw a solution.


Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: schiller@tira.uchicago.edu (Eric Schiller)
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky
Organization: Center for Information and Language Studies / University of
	Chicago
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:39:42 GMT

There already is talk from both Fischer and Kasparov. The attitude
of the latter is "any place, any time", though I think that it would
take a lot of money. After all, if there is 5 mil for a match against
a former champ who is not even in the top 100, what would a Fischer -
Kasparov match be worth. My guess is 20-25 mil. Who has that kind of
money?

Eric Schiller
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: E1.BEH@forsythe.stanford.edu (BEHROOZ TOFIGHRAD)
Subject: Chess program on DOS
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:53:51 GMT


I am looking for chess program for DOS; can anyone refer
me to an FTP site and filename?

Thanks

Behrooz Tofig
e1.beh@forsythe.stanford.edu
e1.beh@stanford.bitnet
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:09:23 -0400 
From: William Stephen Kish <kish+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: FTP on valkyries.andrew.cmu.edu


valkyries.andrew.cmu.edu (home of the Internet Chess Server) has now
been set up as an archive for chess related material.   Uploads may be
placed in pub/chess/uploads.  

If you have any suggestions or comments about this site, direct mail to
chess@valkyries.andrew.cmu.edu.

-Bill Kish
Co-admin of valkyries
From: levine@jadoube.mcs.anl.gov (David Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Marshall - ask Fischer
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:23:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: jadoube.7155410015021
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Chicago, Illinois

In article <14816@mindlink.bc.ca> Bruce_Harper@mindlink.bc.ca (Bruce Harper) writes:
>Judging from the first game, Fischer didn't seem to be too worried about
>meeting the Marshall, but I don't recall ever seeing Spassky play it (I might
>be wrong).  Anyone who says it's no big deal that Fischer's playing again
>should consider that he might have some answers to questions like this one...

Even more interesting would be to find out if the Sozin Najdorf (6. Bc4)
is still playable!

--dave
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: hyatt@cis.uab.edu (Robert Hyatt)
Subject: Re: Chinook-Tinsley results as of Saturday
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:48:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.232233.14301@aero.org> jordan@aero.org (Larry M. Jordan) writes:
>I rather appreciate news about this match--both opponents
>have facinating histories.
>
>No, please keep the news coming.
>
>--Larry %)


I agree.  Even if it's slightly off the subject of this newsgroup, this is
history in the making.  Keep it up and good luck over there.......

Bob


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From: macah@lut.ac.uk (C A Hoenselaers)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: computers that intentionally slip up (was Re: chinook)
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:59:27 GMT
Followup-To: rec.games.chess
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

In article <1992Aug28.164917.11099@cs.brown.edu>, jhc@m2lll.uucp (James H.
Coombs) wrote:

> ... But read Benko's *Winning With Chess Psychology.*

> Learn from Lasker and most of the other top players of the 20th
> century.  Read Benko.
> 

As an aside to those remarks:

When analyzing a position Lasker commented on a move that "it would be a
good move against Janovski but a terrible mistake against Tarrasch". Even
if this anecdote is not true, it illustrates his approach to the game. Why
did he play the exchange variation, considered to be "drawish", in a game
he had to win for the tounament victory ( Lasker v Capablanca, St.
Petersburg, 1914 ) ?

C A Hoenselaers
From: wagner@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer match on ICS
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:38:15 EDT

In article <9208312005.AA05212@econ.berkeley.edu>, jeff@econ.Berkeley.EDU (Jeffrey C. Ely) writes:
> sharring@cms.tamu.edu (Stephen L Harrington):
> 
>>I have been informed that the fischer match will be covered live
>>on Prodigy. If anyone has access to the Prodigy service, the  rest
>>of us here on the internet will be eternally grateful if you 
>>could/would glean the info from prodigy and cross-post. Supposedly
>>it is @ ~3pm Yugoslavian time, which makes it early morning for
>>those of us in the United States. Real-time would be the ideal,
>>but delayed slightly would still be better than nothing. Anyone
>>out there have prodigy????
> 
> 
> Im sure there are many rec.games.chess.-philes who would be quite stoked
> to see this match in real time.  There was an earlier suggestion to have the 
> moves played out in real time on ICS.  This could be accomplished by logging
> into ICS through two separate windows, one for Fischer and one for Spassky.
> There must be somebody out there with Prodigy who will be watching this match
> anyway.  Is it possible to orchestrate this so that we could compensate a
> volunteer for his service.  
> 
> Here's a suggestion.  Registered ICS users have their e-mail addresses
> on file.  How about setting a small fee to use ICS during the match.  Players
> who logged on during the match (and I guess it would be fair to first verify
> that they watched the match as opposed to just logged on and off-I assume 
> this is possible)  could be "billed."  Of course there will be some free
> riders, but the problem could at least be minimized by preventing 
> non-registered players from logging on during the match (I assume this is 
> possible) abd by consistently nagging those who fail to pay with a barrage
> of e-mail.  (players could be warned when logging into ICS at these times 
> that they are expected to pay.)  
> 
> An even better system, if implementable, would be to have each potential
> user pledge via e-mail, prior to the match, to send a check to whomever after
> the match is over.  Only useres who have made this pledge would be allowed 
> to log on during match games.  Under this system, players who commit 
> themselves know in advance that if they fail to pay, they will be subject
> to e-mail terrorism.
> 
> I bet there is enough interest in this match that the fee per individual
> would not have to be too high (less than the price of a movie) to generate
> sufficient incentive to supply the service.  BTW I hear that the match will
> also be covered on USA Today Sports Network and Compuserve.
> 
> Jeff Ely                                    "He said the Sun's not yellow...
> Department of Economics                      It's Chicken!"
> UC Berkeley

I don't mean to be rude, but do you realize that your quest for 
entertainment has consequences for people living in a nation torn by 
civil war?  
						-Luke
					wagner@mps.ohio-state.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: Classes and Ratings
Keywords: Chess Class Rating Norm
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:43:23 GMT

Everyone,

No need to jump on this pig. He's an arrogant friend of mine who taught
me a small fraction of what I know today.

heh heh heh heh

Paul
From: Peter_Stockhausen@mindlink.bc.ca (Peter Stockhausen)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Dr.Tinsley-Chinook World Championship Match
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:18:13 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Could somebody PLEASE post the final results of this match?? Many Thanks.
Peter Stockhausen

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From: mike@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Mike W. Burger)
Subject: What happened to Fischer?
Organization: University of Hawaii at Manoa
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:06:49 GMT


	If Fischer was so full of chess lust after winning the
World Championship, what event or series of events transmuted
him into a recluse who shunned chess like a reformed alcoholic
shuns drink?
From: direwolf@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Kathy Watts)
Subject: Re: CJA Awards
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:25:54 GMT

Mark Ginsburg deserves everyones support in this discussion about the CJA
awards NOT because the awards themselves are important.

What is admirable about Mark's posts is this:

He has knowledge of the author's sources (in particular, Walter Shipman's games
vs. GM Rohde), and is publicly revealing the author's failure to include
experience counter to the premise they are trying to defend.

If people with facts don't bring them out in this kind of situation, why are we
bothering to search for truth anywhere?  C'mon, folks - let's stop talking
about side issues.... Isn't there someone on the net who can ask the Shipmans
why the Rohde-W. Shipman games aren't mentioned?  Maybe a CJA judge here on the
net (not the one from Ohio - I mean the one from Boston!) could do this?!

-Hal Bogner
From: fry@tara.harvard.edu (David Fry)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: F-S II, game 2 update
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:51:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Sep3.125106.15338
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard Math Department


As of 12:30 EDT, from the AP wire:

   Spassky Fischer  
   (White) (Black)  
   1. d4 Nf6  
   2. c4 g6  
   3. Nc3 Bg7  
   4. e4 d6  
   5. f3 c5  
   6. dxc5 dxc5  
   7. Qxd8 Kxd8  
   8. Be3 Nfd7  
   9. Ne2 b6  
   10. 0-0-0 Na6  
   11. g3 Nc7  
   12. f4 e6  
   13. Bh3 Ke7  
   14. Rhf1 h6  
   15. e5 Bb7  
   16. g4 Rad8  
   17. Ng3 f6
From: pjj+@cs.cmu.edu (Peter Jansen)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Handicap story
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:44:22 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


This seems to be one of those urban-legend type stories, told over
and over again with different 'actors' in the main role.

I heard the handicap story first about Anderssen, who, when
checking into a hotel in Berlin (?) chanced upon a group of chess
players, looked on with interest for a while, and was challenged
by the local champ, who offered to give him Queen odds.
Etc....

-- Peter
From: ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Unsound sacrifice?
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:16:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.Btynzq.D9z
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     I had black in an unrated,
| r |///|   |///|   | r | k |///|     but somewhat serious,
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     game.  I played 18...Nxf2,
| p | Q |///|   |///|   | p | p |     as much in desperation
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     as anything else.  The
|   |///|   |///| q |///|   |///|     game ended 19 Kxf2 Rab8
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     20 Qxa7 Rb2+ 21 Kf3 Qg6 0-1.
|///|   |///| p |///| p |///|   |     Was this a sound sacrifice?
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     My computer found the
|   |///|   | P | n |///|   | P |     variation 21 Be2 f4 22 Qa3 fxe3+
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     23 Ke1 Rxe2+ 24 Kxe2 Qg4+,
|///|   |///| B | P |   |///|   |     but it thinks black is
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     losing after 20 Qa6. 
| P |///|   |///|   | P | P |///|     If the sacrifice is unsound,
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     was there a good alternative?
| R |   |///|   | K |   |///| R |     
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: HOLDENB1@ibm.gwdg.de
Subject: Re: e: fischer match coverage
Organization: GWDG, Goettingen
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 22:33:29 MSZ

Ron, and friends
The german newspaper "Welt am Sonntag" <World at Sunday> yesterday
reported, that the match Fischer-Spassky will take place on a ship
outside the 3-mile-zone in an international area.
I hope this is not rumor and hesitate whether this will or should
calm the department, cause the match nevertheless is a deal with
a serbian sponsor. Right??
                         Best, Hartmut
Hartmut-A. Oldenbuerger, Department for Teaching Economics
holdenb1#ibm.gwdg.de     University of Goettingen
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From: smmurthy@comet.lerc.nasa.gov (PLN Murthy)
Subject: Fischer Spassky Game 1
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:37:34 GMT


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