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From: katie@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Katie Schwarz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Kryptonian Green Lantern
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:57:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

One more note about that old story where the Guardians planned for Kal-El
to become the leader of the Green Lantern Corps, but he ended up on Earth
instead:

Sometimes Superman has been shown as having an affinity for the GL power
rings. In Action 589 [Byrne] and Adventures of Superman 473 [Jurgens] he
helped out some Green Lanterns by touching their rings, adding his will
power to them (Guy Gardner: "I hate this touchy-feely stuff"). And in one
of the Armageddon 2001 imaginary futures (the one where Superman was
elected president) when Guy Gardner attacked him, he seized control of
Guy's ring even as Guy was wearing it. Then Hal offered Superman full
membership in the Corps, but he turned it down.

Of course there must be tons of other Superman-Green Lantern encounters
where that sort of thing doesn't go on.

Action 642, the last of the weekly Action series, has a retelling of Hal
Jordan's origin story where the first candidate found by Abin Sur's ring
was Clark Kent... but it was against the rules for him to get the ring
because he wasn't native to the space sector. Unfortunately, this story
isn't consistent with Guy Gardner's origin as shown in Secret Origins 7
("There are two candidates, both identically worthy"). Both stories are
post Crisis; I think writers just get so fascinated with origins that
they can't leave them alone.

.....................
katie@physics.berkeley.edu
"Superman and Green Lantern ain't got nothing on me..." --Guy Gardner
quotes Donovan, Guy Gardner Reborn #3
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Tintin
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:54:07 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Jul23.212731.16746@scott.skidmore.edu>, jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein) writes:
> 
> I'm interested{in obtaining a copy of Tintin and the Aleph Art and
> Tintin in the land of the Soviets.

"Tintin and Alph-Art", ISBN 0-9512799-2-0, published by Sundancer,
34 Floral St, London WC2E 9JD

"Tintin in the Congo" ISBN 0-9512799-4-7.  Same publisher.

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From: ian@airs.com (Ian Lance Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Doom Patrol FF send-up
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:31:40 GMT
Distribution: na

dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

>But Cliff's brain spends most of the issue displaced by a villain's brain.

For the youngsters out there, the story is a pastiche of F.F. #51,
``This Man, This Monster,'' in which a mad scientist replaces the
Thing for some nefarious purpose, but is sufficiently impressed by
Reed's selflessness that he sacrifices himself to save Reed in the
Negative Zone (or so I remember it, anyhow).
-- 
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  just when you're preparing to send it to the jumble sale, he says, `That's
  rather a nice hat you've got on, where did you get it?' ''
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From: euaaen@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall)
Subject: Duckburgh 
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:16:17 GMT

In the very informative "Welcoming post", hades@coos.dartmouth.edy (Moderator
rac.info) includes a FAQ list which in turn contains the following:

>* Where are the "real" locations of Metropolis, Gotham City, Hub City,
>etc., in the DC Universe?

Never mind that. What I'd like to know is where Duckburgh is supposed to
be located.

Any Carl Barks fans out there?

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From: carlinra@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Robert Carlin)
Subject: Re: Sandman 41: the many titles
Summary: "The number you have dialed..."
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:56:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.082026.21266@leland.Stanford.EDU> doom@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joseph Brenner) writes:
>
>Sandman 41, in place of a conventional title has a panel
>that appears to contain subtitles for each section of the
>story:
>
>"THE NUMBER YOU HAVE DIALED..."
>
>But here's the question:  I presume that the other titles
>are also titles of other works.  Can you place them?

Is "The number you have dialed..." from a murder mystery, translated into 
film by Alfred Hitchcock?  I think the title I'm thinking of is "Sorry,
Wrong Number" or something along those lines.

Rob


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From: Judith_Beeman@mindlink.bc.ca (Judith Beeman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: YUMMY FUR/ Drawn & Quarterly
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:18:53 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Hey ho. Now I don't read this group all too often so feel free to email me
direct if you wish. I've been reading Chester Brown's excellent book for only a
few issues now --no, I have no idea where the hell I was before--tis truly
interesting stuff. As of yet I don't quite "get" Ed the Happy Clown or some of
the action that's taken place...I have issues #10 (flame pit), !8 (Ed on
cover), 2 thru 28. Very cool I hope to pick up back issues and catch up.

At the end of June I went to Seattle to meet Peter Bagge (HATE is GRATE), Julie
Doucet (Dirty Plotte #5 is now out and as excellent as ever), Mary Fleener and
Jim Woodring (equally as nice folks tho Jim's "Frank in The Woods" didn't move
me too much...again maybe its my comprehension. wink.)

D & Q seems to be, along with Fantagraphics, thee comics that truly matter.
Then again I've been reading the reissues of Marvel's GHOST RIDER (orig) I'm up
to #3...totally fun. Vroom.

oops just reread this...that should be I have issues 25 thru 28 for YF. Later,
j.
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Jor-Elmo)
Subject: Re: CBG Awards!
Organization: Lara's Kandorian Take-Out
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:44:16 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul28.072601.9552@sol.UVic.CA>, jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
> In article <1992Jul27.232747.1@happy.colorado.edu> mamcconnell@happy.colorado.edu) (Mark (MacBear) McConnell) writes:
>>Yes!  Finally, I can see where my vote counts.  1/10 of his position!
> I was another Suicide Squid voter.  That's three votes (it looks like).
> 
	I, too, voted for the Squid Supreme.
-- 
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dog that could talk."  -- Joe E. on Scooby-Doo

elmo (morrow@fnal.fnal.gov,morrow@physics.rice.edu)
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Jor-Elmo)
Subject: Re: LSH #33
Organization: Lara's Kandorian Take-Out
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:24:18 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul27.155423.11291@midway.uchicago.edu>, mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:
>   For example, _why_
> would the Dominators give the clones the original Legionnaires'
> memories if they didn't have to?  (And that answer suggests they
> don't, since they've put the memories of one being, Proty/Garth, into
> another, a clone of the original Garth.)  Why not use the memories of
> fanatically loyal Dominator soldiers?  Or non-fanatics who are trusted
> by the Dominator high caste?  (If they don't think they can trust such
> folks in the clone's bodies, one wonders why they'd think they could
> control teenagers with the original Legionnaires' personalities, given
> the record.)

	Because the Dominators are morons?
	In fact, there's a trend in the LSH.  The Dominators are morons.  Bion
was a moron.  The Khunds are morons.  Earthgov is a pack of morons.  Roxxas was
a moron.  Glorith is a moron.
	Of course, this can always be traced to the fact that Keith & Tom &
Mary & Michael are all morons.
-- 
"There was always a rational explanation of the haunting, but they had a 
dog that could talk."  -- Joe E. on Scooby-Doo

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2)
Subject: Re: Duckburg (was: Duckburgh)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:44:05 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.animation

In article <1992Jul28.200549.11881@uwm.edu>, buzzsaw@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Elias Campbell) writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.191743.10815@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
> >Calisota = California + Minnesota, obviously.  Thus, it's like California when 
> >needed, and like Minnesota otherwise.
> 
>  Personally, I'm of the opinion that Duckburg is just down the coast from
>  St. Canard :)

... and a few hours East from Cape Suzette, which of course is somewhere
in their equivalent of the Pacific.

Follow-ups to rec.arts.animation.
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From: mbvg9741@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (plain)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Origin Stories
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:31:11 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (glenn alan carnagey jr) writes:

>In article <1992Jul27.021159.29006@macc.wisc.edu> gmsmith@vms.macc.wisc.edu (GREG M. SMITH) writes:
>>I've been wondering about the reasons why mainstream comics (I'm principally
>>thinking about DC titles here) have a tendency to gravitate toward origin 
>>myths ...
>>
>>One explanation might be that the modern comic writer, in order to leave
>>his/her personal stamp of artistry on a comic, feels the need to remake the
>>character's
>>origins.  If so, when did this start?  With Alan Moore's Swamp Thing and 
>>Marvelman/Miracleman?

>>Certainly all cultures are drawn toward creation myths (Adam and Eve). It
>>just 
>>seems that there's more to this trend in comics than a simple explanation can
>>handle.  What do other people think?

 Actually, this fact of comic writers recreating their characters in their
 own image may not be all so odd.  Have you ever tried to find a definitive
 creation myth? or even a story of a god or a hero from a culture?  The
 Greeks, the Norse, the Yoruba, etc all have multiple mythologies dealing
 with their gods, depending to some extent on location of the myth tellers.
 The gods who we know and love (or reasonable facsimile thereof) are often
 composites of many different stories.  I suppose given another 2,000 years
 people will look back on our myths (including comic books?) and successfully
 join all the disparate tales together in one composite myth.
 I guess we'll just have to wait and see :^)
From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Comics Humor...
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:43:41 GMT
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way

In article <63879@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6223b@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray) writes:
>CALVIN:  The best thing about Captain Steroid comic books is that every issue
>	 is number one.

Of course, Groo came up with this joke first!  Groo has been doing this
joke for months now!  Which is proof that Groo is an indicator of
things to come!  Groo is God!

No wonder my life is so screwed up...
-- 
Bill "Whassamatter?!  Can't you take a joke?!" Barnes   wbarnes@sura.net
Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.
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From: rkelly@carina.unm.edu (Robert Kelly)
Subject: Get the Lead out of Voodoo Science
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 17:16:44 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Keywords: hulk marvel


Dani "The Inesteemable" Zweig has stated X-Ray beings in close
proximity of lead pipes are dumb.

I agree.  It seemd like a pat and easy answer to defeating a villain
so that other villains can show up at the end of the book.

One of my ongoing gripes about PAD's Hulk is that the stories are
over with too soon: the Doc Samson/child abuse issue; the agony of 
Rick Killing someone (hasn't he done this before in Marvel Continuum?)
being one whole panel...

This just seemed to me a way for Peter to get his plot moving 
quicker.  It's like:

	Big villain needs small villains for job
		introduce the small villains (U-Foes)
			monologue and battle
		remove small villains
	introduce big villain (Leader)	

		etc.

Hey, I aint really complaining, I just hang around for the issues
like SpeedFreak & AIDS, and the funny dialogue.  I do wish
Peter took his time more often, though.

So, since a big green man put a bar through Pink and Black Ray-O-Vac
I aint gonna complain about Lead Bars.


Robert Kelly
rkelly@triton.unm.edu
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From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Crisis on Infinite Earths, 6 years later
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:36:04 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx

In article <1992Jul28.235952.1421@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
>I wasn't saying that Blue Devil ever was in a League book, but that
>The History of the DC Universe had a team shot of the new League and I
>seem to remember Blue Devil being pictured in it

Okay, I have the darn thing in front of me. 

For the Justice League of America team shot:
Martian Manhunter, Aquaman, Flash, Batman, Green Lantern in the main
shot, with Green Arrow, Atom, and Hawkman looking into the frame.

	For the Detroit version of the JLofA:
Elongated Man, Martian Manhunter, Steel, Gypsy, Zatanna, Vibe, Vixen,
Aquaman, with Batman's cape forming the roof of the shot.

	Blue Devil appears on a page with a bunch of solo heroes
(Air Wave II, Power Girl, Vigilante II, Black Orchid, and Red Tornado)

	The Justice League team shot is: Dr Light II, Guy Gardner, Black
Canary, Batman, Blue Beetle, Dr Fate, Mr. Miracle, Martian Manhunter, 
Captain Marvel, and the Post-Crisis (silvery) Captain Marvel.  
(This is vaguely interesting because the pre-Crisis CA appears earlier
on as part of the same generation of heroes as Flash, Aquaman, Atom
etc. ) 
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Citizen Elmo)
Subject: Re: The Heckler
Organization: The Welles Fargo Wagon
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:43:48 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

	I'm a big fan of Ambush Bug, so I would normally have bought the
Heckler.  However, I'm boycotting it because the same team is responsible for
IMHO axe-murdering the Legion.
	Well, it matters to me....
-- 
"Hey, Chel, you know it's kind of funny/Texas always seemed so big.
But you know you're in the biggest state in the union
When you anchored down in Anchorage."
--Michelle Shocked

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From: tyg@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: MARVEL: '70s characters comebacks (was Re: hello)
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:01:37 GMT

In article <Jul.14.16.54.55.1992.1189@gandalf.rutgers.edu> cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt) writes:
>Woodgod's appearances in MARVEL TEAM-UP are now being reprinted.  Perhaps he's
>due for a comeback, too.

Already done. In an issue of Nick Fury/SHIELD a couple of months back.

"Here on the tree shaded banks of Lake Micawawa lies one of America's great
storehouses of knowledge, The Double-Domed Institute for Advanced Thinking.
You, sir, what is your scholastic background?"
"Well, I have a B.A. from Columbia, an M.A. from Harvard, and a Ph.D. from 
Caltech."
"And I take it you're a professor here?"
"No, I'm the janitor."  --Bullwinkle Goof Gas episode
From: romkey@asylum.UUCP (John Romkey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Doom Patrol FF send-up
Date: 30 Jul 92 03:11:00 GMT
Distribution: na

sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat) writes:
>But in Danny's dream, Cliff's brain has been replaced by some villain's
>brain.  David had it right.

Ah, you're right, sorry about that. The "Cliff's brain being replaced by a
villain" was done before, too, and I got stuck on that (and thinking Cliff
was entirely replaced by a duplicate in this story, which is probably wrong).
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Comic Humor
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:25:04 GMT

Well, today I saw the Beetlejuice cartoon equivalent of the Calvin strips from 
this week.  He became UltraBeetleMan, with ish #1 in about a jillion formats.  
Also appearing were fairly good parodies of the origins of Superman (SuperEgo 
from the planet Oedipus), Iron Man (Iron Guy, the steaming avenger) and Silver 
Surfer (Norman Radd, the Icy Skier!), as well as a melange of the origins of 
Thor, FF, Spider-Man et al to UltraBeetleMan's origin (yes, I know Ambush Bug 
did it first).  The episode also skewered the merchandising side of comics and 
the fickleness of fandom.  Oh, and the heroes listed above were members of the 
Beleaguered Adjusters (Adjusters Assemble!).
     Dave Van Domelen, remember always to be sure to retain some control over 
the use of your likeness in trading card deals (paraphrased from How To Be A 
Superhero, which I bought months ago and love)
From: albert@chain.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Character Aging (was Re: Marvel Continuity)
Date: 31 Jul 1992 17:17:54 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx

In article <1992Jul31.121130.29312@zip.eecs.umich.edu> tyg@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway) writes:
>In article <1992Jul31.074909.10150@midway.uchicago.edu> mss2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>My impression is that the Titans are post-college age.  I don't follow
>
>Except there was just a line in the book that none of them are over 21, which
>I think is pushing it, but 23 would be reasonable; just post-college. The Wally
>West Flash book opened with him celebrating his 21st birthday, but has also

	He also celebrated his 22nd birthday during the Invasion.  Fidel
Castro threw him a b-day party (which Durlans later crashed).  If you
assume that Wally and Dick are the oldest ones, you could perhaps assume
that Dick is also 22, and he was refering to the rest of the Titans, which
can easily be a year or more younger. 	Or he could have had a recent birthday,
and he hasn't adjusted to being 22 yet.  (You know how it is, for a month
or so after your birthday, you still consider yourself the previous ago.)
	Or it's a bad line.  My personal ages for the Titans are:
	Nightwing 23-24 (assuming he started as a sidekick at 13-14 and 
around 10 years have passed)
	Flash 23 (I think in the "Born to Run" arc, they said how old Wally
was when he got zapped, anyone remember)
	Cyborg 21
	Raven 20
	Jericho 21
	Changeling 19
	Troia 22
	Red Star 21
	and I don't really give a @#$% how old Pantha is.  I just hope she
gets run over by milk truck.
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From: euaaen@eua.ericsson.se (Anders Engwall)
Subject: Duckburg (was: Duckburgh)
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:34:34 GMT

harry@dnlunx (Harry Fluks)...

>Duckburg (without h) is located in the American state Calisota. Allthough
>the exact location of this state is unknown, it is somewhere at the west
>coast (Duckburg has beaches).

Donald has been shown to be a rather convincing surfer at times, and
there is desert not too far away, so it ought to be on the southern
part of the west coast. However, winters in Duckburg are rather cold,
there's plenty of snow, and the lakes and rivers and even the sea is
frozen, and that doesn't make it anywhere near, say, San Diego. Besides,
there's a big swamp just outside town, which would suggest it's somewhere
near Louisiana or Florida. The correct location is probably "depends
on what the story requires".

Any other examples of such climatological/topological/other-o-logical
inconsistencies? Or any references to real locations that are near
Duckburg? Darn, this needs investigation!

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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Duckburg(h)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:26:20 GMT

Okay, how far is it from Duckburg to St. Canard?

And while on the Disney Afternoon (which I'm missing now), where did all the 
humans go in Tail Spin?  Baloo is out of Jungle Book, after all...or is this 
the Earth-D Baloo?  }->
     Dave Van Domelen, I am the terror that kinda weakly splutters at the 
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