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From: weingart@inf.ethz.ch (Tobias Weingartner)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: csh and redirect of stderr
Keywords: csh, stderr
Date: 18 Aug 92 11:52:53 GMT
Reply-To: weingart@inf.ethz.ch
Followup-To: poster
Organization: ETH - Switzerland

Ok, I though me a wiz, and now here I am stuck.  Well, theoretically
I could pull down the sources, and read/muck about, but I simply
don't have the time/patience/space to do that right now.

If some kind soul could email me how to do the following in
csh, I would be gratefull.

./someprog foobar 2>/tmp/stderr-out 1>/tmp/stdout-out

Somehow, >& does not seem to do it.... ;-}

Thanks in advance.

--Toby.
From: david@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (David Watkin)
Subject: FAQ
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:47:43 GMT

Please help, I need a copy of the FAQ, could someone send me the address of 
the site to get it, or send me a recent copy.
Any help would be appreciated. 
                         DAVE.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: srangan@lynx.cat.syr.edu (R A N G A N )
Subject: SWITCHING BETWEEN GROUP ID'S
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:48:30 EDT

   hi netters,
               The problem is as follows :

       if a user is a member of more then one group ( i.e the userid is 
       present in more then one line in /etc/group file ) and he wants to
       switch between one group to another group how does he do it ?
       The default groupid when he logs in is the one which is present in
       /etc/passwd file.
       I tried newgrp, but it doesnt work properly.  

       ANY SUGGESTIONS 

       Please mail to srangan@mailbox.syr.edu

       THANKS A BILLION
From: johnboyd@ocdis01.oc.aflc.af.mil (John Boyd;LAHDI;)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Opinions on training?
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:45:59 GMT

I recently received a flyer on some LAN related courses put on by Wave
Technologies.  The one in which I'm interested is a two-day affair.  Unlike
many of the flyers I've received over the years, this one is at a price *I*
can afford out of my own pocket.  My employer doesn't pay for this kind of
thing.  What I need from the group is some input on your impression of
their courses, treatment of the material, your valuation of
'bang-for-the-buck', etc.  Surely *someone* out there has dealt with, or
knows something about these folks.  Assistance appreciated!!
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: ckw@Cookie.secapl.com (Kirk Woerner)
Subject: Re: bad crc when download to pc
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:47:18 GMT
Organization: Security APL, Inc.

  Given that you didn't give the program or what type of file you were
downloading I'll take a stab and suggest that you change the file type to
"binary".  If you are downloading executables or data via FTP or KERMIT you
have to do this.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: doc@magna.com (Matthew J. D'Errico)
Subject: Re: Simple AWK question.....
Organization: Magna Software Corporation
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:22:51 GMT

In article <l96frkINNsom@phad.hsc.usc.edu> you write:
>I'd like to reference the environment variable PWD inside an awk script.  I
>wrote the following simple script to sum bytes in any given directory, and
>would like the output to say:  Total Bytes in /usr/lib: 1024000 (1 MB).
> [...]
>......................
>
>#	sums directory bytes (BSD)
>
>ls -l | awk  '

	WrkDir = "'$PWD'"
>
>		{sum += $4}
>
>	END	{printf "Total Bytes in Directory:  %10d   (%7.1f  MB)\n", sum, sum/1024000}

	END	{printf "Total Bytes in $WrkDir:  %10d   (%7.1f  MB)\n", sum, sum/1024000}

-----------------------------
Give that a try...

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From: kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann)
Subject: Re: executing down directory tree
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd. 
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:10:39 GMT

In article <_a4m!xr.bosak@netcom.com> bosak@netcom.com (Jon Bosak) writes:
>
>Ken Germann writes:
>
>KG> In article <5550@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> tdunbar@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Thomas
>KG> Dunbar) writes:
>KG> 
>KG> >
>KG> >how to i do a certain task in the current directory and all it's sub-
>KG> >directories? i'd like to be able to do:
>KG> >   global rm *~
>KG> >to remove backup files.
>KG> >  thomas
>KG> 
>KG> rm -r <sub-dir>

I missed the part the ~ tilde.  

rm -r <subdir>/*~ should remove all the file in the subdirectory and below
that have a tilde in them .


>
>I do hope that this was just the result of a hasty reading on Mr.
>Germann's part and not some kind of cruel joke.  Totally destroying
>his subdirectory tree was clearly not what the original poster had in
>mind.
>
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From: fgodfrey@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Francis N. Godfrey)
Subject: Locating "active" devices in the /dev directory...
Followup-To: EMAIL ONLY
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:55:43 EDT

(EMAIL RESPONSES PLEASE)

I am on a machine (Sun workstation) that has a few devices attached to it 
physically. I know that there are links to them somewhere in the /dev
directory.

what I want to know: is there an utility that can scan /dev and report what
devices are active and what are their paths?

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From: thomas@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Steve Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: lockf (file locks)
Summary: Help!
Keywords: mutual exclusion, file locking
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:02:08 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Could someone explain or provide an example
of how to properly use file locks.

I am aware that chmod +l file will allow
locks to be placed on a file and that
the function lockf will lock the file.

I would like to allow multiple processes
the ability to change the same record
(or separate records) in a file but
with mutual exclusion enforced.

Specifically I need the order of calls
to fopen, lockf, etc that is required.

Thanks !
Steve
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From: darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain)
Subject: Re: dumping text to a local printer attached to a terminal?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:36:47 GMT
Organization: D'Arcy Cain Consulting

rollins@oktext.UUCP (Steven D. Rollins) writes:
>	This little script might work for you, it does for me. The first
>	line turns on vt100 print-pass-thru. the second cats your file to

Just slightly hardware dependent.  Here is my script:

----------------------------------------------------------------------
#! /bin/sh
# lpx - prints on attached printer if available
# Written by D'Arcy J.M. Cain

# first trap the exit in case we abort while passing through
trap 'tput mc4; exit 0' 0

# now pass through
tput mc5

# if there is an error try to supply some help
if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
	echo "Your terminal doesn't seem to handle pass-through printing."
	echo "Please contact the administrator if you have a terminal that"
	echo "supports this feature and you would like to have it enabled."
	exit
fi

# now dump everything
cat $*

# note there is no cleanup code here - the exit is trapped above
-------------------------------------------------------------------

Notice that withot the comments, error checking, etc this boils down
to simply:
  tput mc5
  cat $*
  tput mc4

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From: sk@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (S Kandasamy)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:17:32 GMT
Subject: Re: Parents and children
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions

/ hpcupt3:comp.unix.questions / ccechk@nuscc.nus.sg (Heng Kek) /  1:50 am  Aug 12, 1992 /
>From preliminary tests from simple programs, I notice that parents
>and child processes do not share the same data.  To be more
>specific, allow me to illustrate with a simple example:
>
>freddy = 888;
>if(fork()==0){
>  freddy = 111;
>  exit;
>}
>printf("freddy is %d\n", freddy); /* prints 888 */
>
>Question: What must I do so that the variable 'freddy' is 'updated'
>in the parent?  Must I use pipes and make parent and child
>communicate the desired change in variable values?
>
>Sorry if this seems trivial,  and thanks for any responses.
>
>Kek
>"Relatively new to parent/child processes"
>----------

Use shared memory to have the common data that is shared between parent and
child. See the man pages of shmget(2) to create a shared memory segment and
shmop(2) to attach it. The parent attaches using shmop(2) and forks the child
also can use the address space. Since both and parent shares the same memory
addresses you should exercise caution in updating as there could be race
conditions(like parent updates before child reads ... etc.). You may have
to use the semaphores to synchronize the shared memory operations.

SK.
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From: gordon@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (John Gordon)
Subject: csh foreach question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:11:08 GMT
Keywords: csh,foreach


	Given the following script:
#
foreach line ( `cat this_script` )
  echo "$line"
end


	I would expect the output to be:

#
foreach line ( `cat this_script` )
  echo "$line"
end

	However, I get:

#
foreach
line
(
)
echo
"$line"
end

	Is this what's supposed to happen?  Any help appreciated.

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From: wayned.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: FTP source available?
Date: 16 Aug 92 02:12:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: cybernet.DNukPB1w164w
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton

I recently bought Coherent and FTP isn't included.  Does anybody know 
where I can get the source for FTP so I can port it?

Forgive the signature in the unix forums, but...

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From: frankz@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Subject: gawk
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:35:34 GMT

Could anyone please tell me where I can get "gawk" from the public domain.

Thanx

Frank
From: shen@athena.cs.uga.edu (Mingzuo Shen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: HPUX discussion group (or mailing list)?
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:31:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Aug17.213154.16884
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Hi all,

    Is there a group devoted to question/answers and discussions
about HPUX? We have a HP Apollo 9000 Series 700 machine. I am
trying to compile programs which make use of /usr/lib/libV3.a.
The resulting executable is 23 megabytes (it should be about
1 megabytes). My first guess is that libV3.a is not a shared library
or something?

    Thanks in advance for any pointers; email prefered.

Mingzuo Shen
From: navarra@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Navarra)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Passing shell variable in if statement in awk
Date: 22 Aug 92 03:37:20 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <sherman.714444204@foster> sherman@unx.sas.com (Chris Sherman) writes:
>No variable replacements happen inside single-quoted sections of code.
>Above, where you do an awk ' blah blah ', nothing gets replaced inside.
>
	
	After further review, the following worked for me:

awk '
/'"$pattern1"'/,/'"$pattern2"'/ {
    if ( "'"$shownumbers"'" )
    printf("[%d] \t %s \n", NR, $0)
    else
    printf("%s\n",$0)
}' -


	For some reason I am not completely cognizant of yet, the 
shell stripped off the quotes in the if statement! Thus, awk was 
looking for the variable 'yes' (which it did not find and thus returned
a 0). However, when I enclosed the statement in double quotes (again)
all worked fine. The pattern1 and pattern2 variables work fine in the
pattern matching construct. 

-tms 
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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How to stty cbreak ?
Keywords: terminal, tty,
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:07:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>>stty cbreak
>
>but it doesn't seem work.
>
>I can't tell whether the cbreak
>mode is on or not.
>(I used: stty all, stty -a.
>nothing appropriate shows.)

If your system's "stty" command supports "stty -a", it probably has a
System V/POSIX-ish "stty" command, and probably has a System V/POSIXish
tty driver as well.  (For example, it might be SunOS 4.x.)

If so, there probably *is* no "cbreak" mode; that's what the old
V7/BSD-style tty driver had.

There is, instead, "icanon" mode.

The "stty" command probably supports "stty cbreak" and "stty -cbreak"
for backwards compatibility; however, "stty cbreak" probably turns
"icanon" mode *OFF*, and "stty -cbreak" probably turns it on.

If "stty -a" says "icanon" is on, then it's as if "cbreak" mode were
off.  If it says that "icanon"is not on, then it's as if "cbreak" mode
were on (roughly; there's also "min" and "time" to worry about, but you
probably don't want to have to worry about that...).
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman)
Subject: Re: Exabyte (8mm) vs. DAT (4mm), advice needed
Organization: Tacoma Screw Products, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:56:02 GMT

In article <6017@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com> shc@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (S.H. Couturie) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.191729.3124@kopachuk.uucp> dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman) writes:
>>When we got our 8mm drive (1988) there was no such thing as data certified
>>tapes.  We used regular video tapes and retired them after 25 passes
>>(the standard guide for broadcast video tape).  Never had any
>>trouble.  
>
>I strongly recommend that the data grade tapes be used with the 8500
>drives.
>
>We have 2 8500 drives on our Epoch-1 used very heavily for backups every 
>night.  Before this January, they were 8200's; with the 8200's, the 
>video grade tapes worked fine -- we never had any trouble writing or reading
>any tapes.
>

Well, this may explain our good results.  We were indeed using an 8200.

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From: gcp79535@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Tsanpin Wang)
Subject: Help -- A problem about tar
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 20:10:41 GMT

When I unpack the X11R5 software, I meet a problem.

$tar xvf mit_1.tar

But it displays the messages ----- xxxx Not a directary.
                                    .... cannot creat.

Does anyone know what's wrong with it?
I will appreciate your kindness.

Any reply please email to

              idpt95@tpts1.seed.net.tw

Thank you in advance.

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: ratner@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (David Ratner)
Subject: Re: Login Message
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:15:14 GMT

derry@milton.u.washington.edu (Derry Lyons) writes:

>Is there any way to edit the login screen on a Unix system?
>I've never seen it done, nor have I found it mentioned.  Just
>curious...  :-)  Derry

If you mean the message that is printed out whenever *anyone* logs in,
that is called the motd (message of the day), and can be found in
/etc/motd.  Of course, you need to be root to edit it.

You can of course always put whatever you want into your own .login file,
and have it say or do whatever you want.

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From: benjy@athena.mit.edu (Benjamin B Thomas)
Subject: How do I tell if a file is open for writing?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 03:19:46 GMT

I was wondering if there is an absolute method of determining if a
file is open for writing. I have been doing:

ls -s foo > tmp1
sleep 5
ls -s foo > tmp2
cmp tmp1 tmp2
...

inside of a csh script that looks for files periodically and if they
have finished growing, uses them. This would work fine except that the
files are coming in over the net, which causes problems when it hangs
and the file doesn't grow for awhile. 

So, if anyone knows of a way to check that a file has actually been
closed by whatever was writing it, please let me know.

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From: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Changing file names
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:51:28 GMT
Reply-To: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
Organization: Convex Computer Corporation, Colorado Springs, CO
Originator: tchrist@pixel.convex.com
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

From the keyboard of srini@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Sreenivasa R Tellakula[C]):
:following script should be able to change file names
:
:#!/bin/ksh

The 'k' above is superfluous.  If you're going to use 
ksh, use its special syntax for this, like

     for file in xyz* ; do
	mv $file ${file#xyz}
     done

:for i in `ls`
:do
:  echo $i | sed s/xyz// >j
:  mv $i `cat j`
:done
:rm j

Process pig.  Why not

    mv $i `echo $i | sed 's/^xyz//'`

Also, your method is going to earn you a lot of

    mv: foo and foo are identical

errors.

--tom
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From: sgr@alden.UUCP (Stan Ryckman)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Awk Variables
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:04:57 GMT
Organization: Alden Electronics, Westboro, MA

In article <1992Aug10.003934.24269@jpradley.jpr.com> jpr@jpradley.jpr.com (Jean-Pierre Radley) writes:
[...stuff deleted...]
>RTFM. It's in there.
>
>awk '
>...awk stuff to be done...
>' var1=value1 var2=value2 file[s]
>
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Not necessarily!  Old awk's don't take var1=value1 type arguments.

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BTW, when this "enhancement" was invented, why didn't the brilliant
person make it backwards compatible?  i.e.,
    awk -f awk_script a=2
FORMERLY read input from file "a=2" (a legal filename, after all.)
Newer awks don't; they read from standard input after setting variable
a to value 2.  It would have been so simple to require something like:
    awk -f awk_script -set a=2
(substitute any previously-unused switch for "-set") if you
wanted to set variable a to value 2, and then the behavior of both
old and new awks for the first line above would have been the same.

*** END OF GRIPE ***

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From: jhall@dante.nmsu.edu (HALL)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: problem with vi..
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:14:18 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM

>|>|> Dear netters,
>|>|> 	 I have a sparc workstation 2.
>|>|> I mounted the floppy drive and copied few files from the floppy. But
>|>|> when I viewed through vi I happened to see ^M at the end of each line.
>|>|> When I cat the file it looks normal. Will some one tell me the reason
>|>|> for this. If possible please send me a shell script or small c program
>|>|> to remove this. I am enclosing a sample of the file.
>|>|> 
>|>|> 	But when I compile the file it works fine. The control characters
>|>|> are really irritating. So help me.
>|>|> 


{ DEleted lots of stuff from people who make stuff really difficult }


Since you have a sparc workstation I see that you use SunOS.
Dos files do use a different carriage return than the sun.
There is a built in little program to convert this for you....

it is called.........

dos2unix .....tada......

and it goes the other way........unix2dos...

there you go I hope it helps...

( I know it is there in 4.1.1 and 4.1.2 )

jhall@nmsu.edu
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From: frank@D012S436.sniap.mchp.sni.de ()
Subject: Re: Sticky bit/environment question
Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf AG
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 09:40:03 GMT

mmas@gwl.com (Mark Mastandrea) writes:
: 
: Hi,
: 
: I have an executable that needs to run as root and also needs to have
: its LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable set so it can find some shared
: libraries that it needs. I set the LD_LIBRARY_PATH under root to point to
: the right path and then ran the executable as root. This works fine. 
: I then make root the owner and set the sticky bit . Now when I run
: the executable as another user the application cannot find the shared 
: library. Both the user and roots environment have LD_LIBRARY_PATH set
: but this seems to be ignored. Has anyone any ideas ? Please email
: me at mmas@gwl.com .
: 
: Thanks in advance
: 
: Mark


I tried to email, but it bounced.  You don't say what system you're
working on, but under SVR4 my understanding is that SUID/SGID programs
can only use shared libraries in "trusted" directories.  For now, 
I believe this means "/usr/lib" and "usr/ccs/lib".  Chances are
your libraries are elsewhere.


Hope this helps,
Frank.
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