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From: jseboldt@pnet51.orb.mn.org (John Seboldt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: AM, etc
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:40:11 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

A message from ROCH%SLUMUS.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu

>- Like the other modes, AMers are constantly being jammed, interfered
>  with, verbally attacked, and in one case burned out of their home.
>  Malicious interference on 75m AM is incredible at times!
>
>- SSB stations should be considerate when working near AM qso's
> (Older transmitters & Older receivers). AM stations will QSY
>  out of their normal freq's because they are being interfered with
>  or they wish to discuss something technical w/o a large roundtable.
>
>- All AMers are not like W2VJZ.
>
>- AMers choose to operate AM for several reasons to include:
>        1- Inexpensive equipment
>        2- Equipment can be repaired by operator
>        3- Equipment can be built from junk box
>        4- Fidelity
>        5- Collectors of an era gone by (Basement Museums :-)
 
TouchE!  A common analogy often used is that CW (or AM, or RTTY, or
other less-than-perfectly-state-of-the-art modes) is akin to sailing --
not necessary for routine transportation, but for the "thrill of it
all", the wind in your sails.  For me, the bleeps in your ears from the
other side of the world, at night on 30 meters with 50 watts and wire
antennas -- that's ham heaven.
 
One might hope for the same tolerance for one another's ham preferences
as our nation's founding fathers hoped for regarding religion in
society (at least in public!)
 
 
: John Seboldt...Minneapolis, MN...As a ham, K0JD...as a human,       :
: right-brained yet right-handed...as a musician, techie yet creative :
:   UUCP: {crash, kksys, petrus, quest}!orbit!pnet51!jseboldt         :
:   ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!jseboldt@nosc.mil                        :
:   INET: jseboldt@pnet51.orb.mn.org                                  :
From: cchapman@matd.gatech.edu (Charles H. Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: Comp.dcom.telecom Moderator attacks ham radio
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:58:29 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <pschleck.712105383@cwis> pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU) writes:
>From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
>Subject: Comp.dcom.telecom Moderator attacks ham radio
>Date: 25 Jul 92 23:03:03 GMT

>The following caught my eye as a "Moderator's Note" in the moderated
>newsgroup comp.dcom.telecom.  The moderator is Pat Towson, a notorious
>flame-baiter (as well as moderator of a great newsgroup, go figure...).
>It's probably just as well, he's insulted just about every *OTHER*
>sub-culture of loyal Telecom Digest readers, it was only a matter of
>time before he came to us.

>The note was in response to a post by Cliff Stoll (K7TA) about how the
>Internet and the people who run it have to be a lot more street-smart
>with the invasion of crackers over the years.  I agree with the points
>Cliff made, but Pat chimes in with this uncalled-for blow against ham
>radio:

>>[Moderator's Note: Well Cliff, the Internet community had a lot of
>>trust between people for many years until the BBS'er/malicious hacker
>>type person found out about it and began abusing the trust. It reminds
>>me of how ham radio *used* to be until the CB'ers started moving in.  PAT]
>      ^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^ ^^ ^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^


Why does comp.dcom.telecom have to have a moderator anyway?  It's only
purpose seems to be to give this Pat guy the opportunity to play god and
control the discussion.  I think someone should start a new unmoderated
dcom group so there can be free and open discussion on the subject.  I
know there is an alt.dcom group but not everyone has access to the alt
groups.

Chuck, WB4UIH

Charles H. Chapman  (GTRI/MATD)             (404) 528-7588
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:     ...!{allegra,amd,hplabs,ut-ngp}!gatech!matd!cchapman
Internet: cchapman@matd.gatech.edu
From: n4hy@idacrd.UUCP (Bob McGwier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Calcium Batteries
Keywords: Articles, Flames, etc
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:28:55 GMT
Organization: idacrd, princeton, nj

I want to thank Brian Kantor and Julian Macassey for their help on
Lead Acid batteries.  Very interesting.  I recommend everyone digging
through their archives and digging out Brian's posting.  Julian:  I think
I have the issues of QST in question.  I will look.  Send me a note with
your FAX number.

Bob
From: jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CRT radiation into ham rcvrs
Date: 31 Jul 92 11:28:39 EDT

rusty@anasaz (Rusty Carruth) writes:
>In article <5814.2a6f034e@hayes.com> bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.124413.27165@ke4zv.uucp>, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>> In article <5798.2a6b0ad5@hayes.com> bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman) writes:
>>>>In article <9g=m-lm.nagle@netcom.com>, nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle) writes:
>>>>>        The Mac 13" color monitor emits 60Hz magnetic fields strongly
>>>>> enough to interfere with a telephone handset at 3'.  
>>BTW, I've received confirmation from employees at Apple that this report
>>of emissions of strong magnetic fields interfering with telephone handsets
>>is entirely BOGUS.
>Perhaps the bogosity statement is true WRT Apple monitors (having NO
>experience with same), HOWEVER! - I have a really nice Magnavox Multisync
>monitor at home that plays HAVOC with the ENTIRE 10M novice SSB portion

He said "telephone handset", not radiotelephone.  I did, once, see RS-232
lines interfere with a telephone, but they were strung together in the same
25-pair cable for about 200 feet...

>>Indeed, the whole lot is FCC Class B certified. I doubt you could say
>>the same for Suns or ATT workstations.
>My PC is class B (including the monitor, I think - now I'm going to 
>have to check!), but that does not alter the fact that 10m is pretty
>much useless when I have the computer on...

A lot of PC's aren't checked thoroughly for whether or not they really meet
the emission specs, and they are frequently checked with configurations that
aren't shipped (special shielded cables, no external devices save the monitor
and keyboard, etc), resulting in real-world systems coming nowhere near meeting
the class B specs; also worth noting is that the class B rating doesn't promise
that a sensitive shortwave set won't be completely wiped out, only that Aunt
Edna's Dumont TV isn't likely to be...
From: woods@glas.rtsg.mot.COM (Simon Woodworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: tough life?
Date: 29 Jul 1992 08:05:50 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

|In article <22824@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kstuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil
|(Kenneth Stuart) writes:
|> Anyway, as one of the oldsters who ACTUALLY REMEMBERS poking around
|> the surface of a galena/iron pyrites crystal with a cats whisker, and
|> suddenly hearing the old WFBR station (Baltimore) in the "cans", I just
|> want to thank the originator and all the contributors who have added
|> to these postings.
|
|BUT I'm only 36 (as of today in fact) and I remember poking around on a 
|galena crystal with a cats whisker on my first kit-built radio.  Does 
|this make me an oldster? :-(

I can't let this one slip by without comment ....
   I built a cat's whisker radio at the age of 14 or so. I'm 24 now (and I
still haven't done anything about getting a license). What does that make
me? A junior oldster? :-)
   In fairness I should add that the cat's whisker itself was pre-assembled
and was a beautiful brass-and-glass enclosed object. It belonged to my
grandfather who was a keen SWL and built a load of his own valve gear.
Sadly, he's long since dead - I inherited most of his stuff.
   Simon Woodworth.

===================================================
Simon Woodworth.         |  woods@glas.rtsg.mot.com
Motorola (Ireland) Ltd., | Don't blame my employers
Cork, Ireland.           | for anything I say!  :-)
---------------------------------------------------
Real men don't set stun! - Star Trek bumper sticker
===================================================
From: dmk@theaetetus.rutgers.edu (David M. Katinsky)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: SKYWARN class
Keywords: Old Bridge
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:19:13 GMT
Reply-To: dmk@hardees.rutgers.edu
Distribution: ny, nj, pa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
X-Telephone: +1 908 932-4783
X-Fax: +1 908 932-2968

There will be a SKYWARN class on Thursday October 1 at 1900. This session will
be held in Old Bridge, New Jersey at the Old Bridge Municipal Complex.

If you are interested in attending, please drop me a note so that I can
pass along to the meeting coordinator a rough idea of an attendance estimate.
Your response will not be considered a committment.
-- 

						dmk
David M. Katinsky
dmk@hardees.rutgers.edu                                          N2RDT
From: hrand@pica.army.mil (Henry T. Rand, AED-FD)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Telephone question
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:38:41 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Dube:
	I think what you are refering to is "Caller ID" which is 
available in some parts of the country.  A small unit with a LCD
is connected to the phone line and displays the time, date and
phone number of each call.  Since the data is sent after the first
ring, you have to wait for the second ring to see who is calling.
We have this service in New Jersey but since both your exchange and
the the caller's exchange have to be set up for the service, many calls
show as "Out of Area".  Also when I call home from work which has some
sort of electronic PBX it shows as out of area.  The ID units are sold
by Sears and many others and cost from $30 to $60 depending on features
(how big a memory to retain calls, etc).  Monthly cost is about $5 per 
phone line.
					73,
					Hank Rand, K2RF
From: yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Thread to ham radio
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:55:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

>While I firmly believe in helmets, I have a shattered Snell 90 that
>probably saved my life in an encounter with a tree, I am puzzled by
>your remark that the law requires rendering assistance. Is this a
>Colorado law?  Many states have "good samaritan" laws that *protect*
>people who *voluntarily* stop to render aid, but I've never heard of
>a mandatory aid law.


The poster might be an EMT.  While ordinary citizens (as well as
doctors) are not required to stop to help, EMT's are.  One thing to
keep in mind is that some "good samaritan" laws are designed to
protect doctors who stop to help (i.e. I didn't give informed consent
to receive medical treatment) not ordinary citizens.  I believe that
NY is one of these states (at least this is what was taught in my Red
Cross First Aid course a number of years ago).




-- 
411 Blockley Hall      |                    Conway Yee, N2JWQ
418 Service Drive      | yee@ming.mipg.upenn.edu    (preferred)
Philadelphia, PA 19104 | cy5@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (forwarded to above)
(215) 662-6780         |
From: davy@ecn.purdue.edu (Dave Curry)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wanted: Opinions on 2m/440 mobile radios
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:57:30 GMT
Reply-To: davy@ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

I'm planning to buy a dual-band (2m/440) mobile for my car in a couple
of months, and would like to solicit people's opinions on what to buy.

I have one restriction: due to space limitations and the desire not to
puncture my kneecaps on a regular basis, I am only considering the
radios with a detachable front panel that let you stash the rest of the
radio in the trunk or under the seat.

So, if you have one of these, could you tell me:

	- Make and model
	- Things you like about it
	- Things you don't like about it
	- What notable features does it have?
	- Where you mounted the front panel, and how (Velcro, etc.)

Right now I'm kind of leaning toward the Alinco DR-590, which has, in
addition to all the usual stuff, out-of-band receive up into the 800MHz
range (with a suitable antenna, of course) and scanning functions.  I
don't use scanners much, but with the space restrictions in my car's
cockpit, the ability to do this with the radio instead of a separate
scanner seems desirable.

Please reply via mail to me; I'll summarize to the net if I get anything
useful.

Thanks,
Dave Curry, N9MSW
davy@ecn.purdue.edu
From: wayne@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Wayne Covington)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:24:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Amateur Operators in History
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov ( Scott Dorsey) writes in part:

> For example, Dipolonius, a Roman senator who defeated some of the first laws
> against antenna tower erection.
> 
> ...
> 
> Does anyone else know of similar historical (or biblical) figures?

Well, there's Henry VIII, who wrote the first definitive text on inductance.
Old timers will remember Andrew Jackson's vernier drives.  And George
Armstrong Custer was killed at the Little Bighorn, an antenna ordinance
dispute over a microwave antenna that got out of hand.

Wayne
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: wvanhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William E Van Horne)
Subject: Re: More Cushcraft R7
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 11:20:11 GMT


In reply to the request for information about the Cushcraft R-7
multi-band vertical half-wave antenna from Scott Parker - WA7VYJ:

I have an R-5 that I have had up for two years; also I have both
Elnec and MN antenna analysis software on my computer.  I am no
"antenna guru", but will offer the following opinions for what they
may be worth.

First, computer analysis is not much good for exploring the questions
you have asked.  The Mininec program that was developed by the
government and is the basis of all the commercial packages is not
capable of analyzing ground losses.  Also, for analyzing the
vertical radiation pattern it assumes flat, unobstructed ground
in the immediate vicinity of the antenna.  Houses, fences, trees,
electric wiring, etc. in the area clearly cause major effects in
most real situations but cannot be treated analytically.  Unless
you can permanently mount your antenna in the waters of Great
Salt Lake, you have no choice but to accept anecdotal reports as
a guide, no matter how unreliable they may be in a particular
situation.

I have read most of the popular antenna books written for hams and
feel that "HF Antennas For All Locations" by Les Moxon, G6XN, is
the best single guide available.  He punctures many myths.  The
first is that quarter-wave vertical antennas must have ground
radials.  He makes a good case that a counterpoise is better;
that it has lower losses as well as being much, much more
convenient.

Second, he makes an excellent case for the fact that vertical
antennas are better low angle radiators than horizontal when
both are mounted at heights lower than about 3/4 wavelength.

My limited experience seems to verify this latter fact.  I have
a dipole as well as the R-5 at roughly the same height (35' at
the base).  I find that the R-5 gets about one "S" point better
reports in most DX contacts on 20 meters, which is the only band
on which both can operate.  I live on a small suburban lot
surrounded by houses, power lines, trees, fences, etc. and have
logged about 150 countries in the last few months with 100 watts
output on cw.

My R-5 is limited to 20 meters as the lowest frequency of operation.
I believe it is a superb performer because its overall length of
17 feet is at least a half-wavelength on all bands.  When
Cushcraft extended the principle to make the R-7, they added
only 8 feet so that on 40 meters the overall length is less than
1/4 wavelength.  This is getting a bit short and the radiation
resistance inevitably drops off.  I read one posting that reported
a Field Day installation where both an R-7 and a dipole at some
50 feet height were available; the dipole seemed to get 1 or 2
"S" points (6 to 12 db??) better reports on 40 meters.  This
seems reasonable to me, but I have no direct experience.

Good luck and 73, Van
wvanhorn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: "Readability, Strength" signal reports
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:51:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: eng.1992Jul23.155104.8942
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Maryland, Department of Electrical Engineering

In article <1992Jul22.193417.4561@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:

>How would one designate those CW signals that sound like Whoop whoop? A RST 
>with a W on the end? 8-)  Actually this is a semi serious question. What are
>the technical reasons for those signals going whoop whoop? Almost impossible
>for me to copy by the way.

The "whoop whoop" that you are hearing is generally known as chirp.  It is
caused by the transmitter's oscillator changing in frequency in response
to the difference in loading (be it RF or DC) between carrier on and
carrier off.

The earlier article explaining RST was mostly correct, but was wrong in
describing the suffix letter.  The more common suffix's are:

	RSTc - c for chirp
	RSTk - k for key click.

The "key click" is caused by too sharp a transition between carrier on and
carrier off.  It is more pleasant sounding to let the power ramp up for a few
milliseconds.

Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
chuck@eng.umd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tlanders@atlastele.com (Troy Landers)
Subject: Modifications for ICOM handhelds
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Disclaimer: Views expressed do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:26:44 GMT


Hi.  Me again.  I am in the market for hand-held 2m.  I noticed that in the
ht_info file in the archives, there are several modifications mentioned for
several types of radios.  The radio that I am most interested in is the ICOM
IC-P2AT.  Are there any usefull modifications for this radio?  Also, one of
the modifications mentioned for the IC-24AT was that a keyboard entry could
make it receive 100-1000MHz.  Does this work on other ICOM radios?  On the
IC-P2AT.  Are these sorts of things common?

Thanks for all responses.

-Troy-

-- 
Troy Landers                                      EMAIL: tlanders@atlastele.com
Atlas Telecom                                     VOICE: [USA] 1+503.228.1400
4640 SW Macadam Ave.                              FAX:   [USA] 1+503.228.4434
Portland, OR 97201
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is it "business" if I use and autopatch to...
Date: 26 Jul 92 04:50:01 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <Jul.25.10.39.11.1992.5646@pilot.njin.net> ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron Natalie) writes:
[attribution not given]
>> Car ran out of gas because you thought that E means
>> enough? Car won't start in the parking lot because you left all the radios
>> turned on while shopping?
>
>Parking lots, no.  On the side of the highway, a stopped car for what
>ever reason (accident, break down, driver stupidity (forgot to get
>gas)), IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION for both the stranded driver and for
>other users of the road.

Funny, I pass dozens of cars on the shoulder of the road every day. Some
of them stay there for weeks, gradually losing parts, until the State
Highway Department finally hauls the stripped carcass away. I work for
a news organization that specializes in blood on the highway stories.
The last time we reported a collision with a parked car was three years
ago when a sleeping trucker ran off the road and hit a hiding police
car running a radar trap. That car was waaaaaay back in the bushes, as
far as if he had been parked in a driveway. Atlanta is a busy traffic
town, yet collisions with parked cars are very rare. I think you are
over reacting to a situation that isn't an imminent threat to life.
A car stalled in the *middle* of a traffic lane now, that's different,
and requires an immediate call to 911, not some commercial towing
service.

Gary KE4ZV
From: kwmc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ken.cochran)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Wanted : Icom 228H Mods
Keywords: particularly extended rcv
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:32:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

I would dearly love to know what mods (if any) are available for
the icom 228 series of mobile 2m transceivers.

If you know of any please send e-mail

73s
Ken Cochran    N2RPN	kwmc@usl.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: klimasewski@fccvde.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Subject: Philips DC777,R100,AR3000
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 27 JUL 92 11:40:17    


Hello,

 Is anyone out there using a Icom R100 or AR2500/3000 in the car 
 for shortwave reception (3-30MHz)???

 How do you think it would compare to the Philips DC-777 car 
 stereo w/shortwave?


                                Ken
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Please repost the ARRL e-mail addresses 
From: jangus@skyld.UUCP (Jeff Angus)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 15:10:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Grendel's Lair

# American Radio Relay League arrl.org
fried     "Fried Heyn WA6WZO, Southwest Division"       <2542030@MCIMAIL.com>
jbloom    "Jon Bloom, KE3Z, Laboratory Supervisor"      <jbloom@arrl.org>
bdicos    "Bridget DiCosimo, Technical Department"      <bdicosim@arrl.org>
sford     "Steve Ford, WB8IMY, Assistant Technical"     <sford@arrl.org>
mgruber   "Mike Gruber, WA1SVF, Laboratory Engineer"    <mgruber@arrl.org>
jhall     "Jerry Hall, K1TD, Associate Technical"       <jhall@arrl.org>
ehare     "Ed Hare, KA1CV, Senior Laboratory Engineer"  <ehare@arrl.org>
rhealy    "Rus Healy, NJ2L, QST Senior Assistant"       <rhealy@arrl.org>
lhurder   "Luck Hurder, KY1T, Field Services Dept."     <lhurder@arrl.org>
chutch    "Chuck Hutchinson, K8CH, Membershipship"      <chutch@arrl.org>
bjahnke   "Bart Jahnke, KB9NM, Volunteer Examiner"      <bjahnke@arrl.org>
jkearman  "Jim Kearman, KR1S, Assistant Technical"      <jkearman@arrl.org>
jkleima   "Joel Kleinman, N1BKE, Associate Technical"   <jkleinma@arrl.org>
zlau      "Zack Lau, KH6CP, Laboratory Engineer"        <zlau@arrl.org>
smansfie  "Steve Mansfield, Public Relations Manager"   <smansfie@arrl.org>
dnewkirk  "Dave Newkirk, WJ1Z, QST Senior Assistant"    <dnewkirk@arrl.org>
ppagel    "Paul Pagel, N1FB, QST Associate Technical"   <ppagel@arrl.org>
rpalm     "Rick Palm, K1CE, Field Services Manager"     <rpalm@arrl.org>
rschetge  "Bob Schetgen, KU7G, Assistant Technical"     <rschetge@arrl.org>
bshelly   "Barry Shelley, Chief Financial Officer"      <bshelley@arrl.org>
dsumner   "Dave Sumner, K1ZZ, Executive Vice President" <dsumner@arrl.org>
rwhite    "Rosalie White, WA1STO, Educational"          <rwhite@arrl.org>
pwilli    "Perry Williams, W1UED, Washington Area"      <2242662@mcimail.com>
mwilson   "Mark Wilson, AA2Z, QST Managing Editor"      <mwilson@arrl.org>
lwolfgan  "Larry Wolfgang, WR1B, Senior Assistant"      <lwolfgan@arrl.org>
tzimmer   "Tammy-Beth Zimmerman, KA1WWP, Membership"    <tzimmer@arrl.org>
tis       "Technical Information Service"               <tis@arrl.org>
dxcc      "DXCC"                                        <dxcc@arrl.org>
awards    "Awards (WAS, etc.)"                          <awards@arrl.org>
contests  "Contests"                                    <contests@arrl.org>
buro      "Outgoing QSL Bureau"                         <buro@arrl.org>
qex       "QEX Magazine"                                <qex@arrl.org>
wiaw      "W1AW"                                        <76067.3724@compuserve.com>
tfrena    "Tom Frenaye, K1KI, Vice President"           <2349723@mcimail.com>
fbutler   "Frank Butler, W4RH, Southeastern Division"   <3113659@mcimail.com>
horzepa   "Stan Horzepa, WA1LOU, QST QEX"               <horzepa@evax.gdc.com>
xenon!skyld!jangus   < This space left blank intentionally. >
J Angus, PO Box 4425, Carson CA 90749-4425 voice (310) 324-6080

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