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From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:29:35 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <66752@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
>Dear Astral Travellers: Last night I attempted to send Big Al some
>telepathic information. I sent him enough Elvis Presley (songs and etc.)
>to last a person a lifetime. All I got back was a bunch of sick X-rated
>movie stuff. I believe someone or something is trying to pull an astral
>joke on me. I am not saying its Big Al's fault though.

<Good-natured laughter>  I'm sorry, dude.  Truth be told, I didn't recieve
nothin'.  I was even there, from 10:58 to 11:13 pacific time.  I did my
best to stick my mind in neutral.  (Man, that's hard)  If you're still game
we can try again next week.

Big Al.  I wasn't even thinking about sex then, rare occasion that it is.
From: mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: SEXY PSYCHIC PLANTS
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:24:37 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

          

                               SEXY PSYCHIC PLANTS

          A humorous quote from "THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS", [See 
          Footnote.], by Peter Tompkins and Christopher Bird, 1973, 
          page 38: 
          
          ....."As Sauvin's main problem remained that of getting his 
          plants to be sharply attuned to his person rather than to 
          their immediate environment, when he was away for several 
          days, he had to devise some means of attracting his plants' 
          attention even more effectively than addressing them over the 
          long-distance phone.  As his plants reacted most strongly to 
          any damage done to himself or to any part of his own energy 
          field, he experimented with remotely killing a few cells of 
          his body in the presence of the plants.  The system worked 
          admirably.  The problem was to obtain cells that would remain 
          alive for protracted periods.  Blood worked well enough, hair 
          was difficult to kill, but sperm worked best of all, because, 
          as Sauvin explained, it was easier to obtain than bleeding, 
          and much less painful. 

               "These experiments led Sauvin to wonder if plants might 
          not react just as well to emotions of pleasure and joy as to 
          pain and shock.  Not only was he tired of shocking himself, 
          he was afraid that repeated shocks to his plants, even 
          indirect ones, might be UNPLEASANTLY LOADING HIS KARMA.  
          
          [DITTO for vivisections, animal experiments, etc..]
          
          Sauvin soon found that his plants did react to joy and 
          pleasure, but with wave patterns that were not sharp enough 
          to trigger a switch reliably.  Undaunted, Sauvin decided on a 
          more daring experiment.  DURING A HOLIDAY WITH A GIRL FRIEND 
          AT HIS LAKESIDE COTTAGE HE ESTABLISHED THAT HIS PLANTS, 
          EIGHTY MILES AWAY, WOULD REACT WITH VERY HIGH PEAKS ON THE 
          TONE OSCILLATOR TO THE ACUTE PLEASURE OF [his] SEXUAL CLIMAX, 
          GOING RIGHT OFF THE TOP AT THE MOMENT OF ORGASM.  All of 
          which was very interesting and could be turned into a 
          COMMERCIALLY MARKETABLE DEVICE FOR JEALOUS WIVES TO MONITOR 
          THEIR PHILANDERING HUSBANDS, BY MEANS OF A POTTED 
          BEGONIA.".... 
          
          (EMPHASIS, and comment, added.)
          
          
          Footnote: Chapter 17 is about BIOLOGICAL TRANSMUTATIONS.
                    Chapters 19 and 20 are about RADIONICS/PSIONICS.
                    Entire book is FASCINATING!



               UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of this 
          INTERESTING Quote, WITH my comments, is ENCOURAGED.


                                    Robert E. McElwaine     
                                    B.S., Physics and Astronomy, UW-EC
From: farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Lorenzo Farris)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Heaven
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:43:23 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Oct1.144846.22393@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>, gorski@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Tom Gorski) writes:
> In article <Sep.30.21.41.08.1992.18445@ruhets.rutgers.edu> farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Lorenzo Farris) writes:
> >In article <1992Sep30.174134.11019@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>, gorski@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Tom Gorski) writes:
> 
> So then, heaven is an experience?
> 
> Assuming you've been to both places, tell me how does one tell the difference
> between having a really, really good moment, and being in God's heaven? (albeit
> heaven within, if you like.)
When I say heaven, I mean, take a really, really good moment, multiply
by orders of magnitude, and remove the time element.  
> 
> As for your approach, I'm not sure science has a lot to do with it.
> Sounds more like a personal brand of empiricism to me.  
> 
> --Tom G.

I can see this is going to go nowhere.  So tell me, how can you tell
if you're happy or not.  Do you get out the old happyometer, and see
what reading you get?  Do you do a systems analysis to determine your
level of happiness?  
What is the scientific method? As I recall, it goes: do a literature
search; form a hypothesis; design an experiment to test that
hypothesis; perform the experiment; analyze the results.  Perform a
series of such procedures to eliminate competing hypotheses.  
Am I missing anything there?  If this is in fact the scientific
method, then I have indeed used it in the exploration of my
consciousness. 
			-Lorenzo
-- 

"Ask me a riddle, and I [should] reply,       Lorenzo Farris
`Cottleston, Cottleston, Cottleston Pie'"     farris@ruhets.rutgers.edu
                -Winnie the Pooh          
[bracketed addition mine]
From: elascurn@daimi.aau.dk (Lars R{der Clausen)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Becoming aware
Keywords: anger,meditation,balancing,healing
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:37:11 GMT
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark

smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com (Steve Dahmen) writes:


>Sorry for being late with this, but my poster broke last week and just came up.

>In article <19mgooINN34j@gap.caltech.edu>, tt@wag.caltech.edu (Toshi Takeuchi) writes:

[...]

>It's NOT shameful to feel.  In fact, if you start feeling less and less as you
>meditate, know that you are spearating yourself... more than likely floating
>away from the emotional issues that should be dealt with head on.  There is
>enormous power locked up in denied emotional expression, and the more you
>deny your emotional side, the more you deny the power of the GOdforce
>within You.

>Embrace It.  You don't have to Love it, but you do need to be open to what 
>it has to teach.

Ah, nice to listen to a person with some sense! I did that emotional denial
for years until I found that I had it all stored inside me. It's been great
fun (and hard work) to begin to get it out. Typically, meditation forms that
work most in the head (TM, Hare Krishna, high-chakra meditations) make you
loose touch with your body & feelings unless you have a VERY good grounding.
But with all the great visions and experiences you can get there, most people
don't notice. It might also give you success and a feeling of happiness
because you don't get angry, but if you want to grow spiritually, you have
to deal with it at some time, and not only by denying it. Kartharsis can be
a great help.

>:
>:How can we deal with our reactions?
>:
>:By balancing ourselves and focusing ourselves as in meditation
>:DURING the heat of the anger.
>:
>:--When you feel anger or any other strong emotions, refocus your attention
>:on balancing yourself as in meditation.  If you do that, then your actions
>:can be done with awareness.

>And denial.  If you consistently deny your emotions, ESPECIALLY the strong
>ones, in my vision you are stunting your overall spiritual growth. You may
>gain some outer appearance of peace, but the issues behind your emotion
>do NOT go away.  They just remain.  You can deal with them now, or in
>another incarnation. Some say it doesn't matter; that peace NOW is what
>counts.  I, and others, say that we must begin to heal the emotions.
>It's the lack of attention given to the Emotions that have created a good
>deal of the situation on Earth now.

My idea is that it's ok to balance yourself when you feel strong emotions, as
long as you don't use that to suppress the emotions. If you can keep awareness
while feeling/expressing strong emotions (of any kind!), you become more
sensitive to what they want to tell you.

[Stuff I agree very much on deleted:-]

>Steve.

Emotionally, Lars Clausen
-- 
Think of your family tonight.  Try to crawl home after the computer
crashes.
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From: rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu (Free Radical)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:23:27 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <66693@cup.portal.com> John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
[...]
>  When you think of life on other planets it doesn't always have to
>be exactly like we are here. Sometimes it is of a lighter consistency, finer  
>consistency and a higher frequency. 

John - does this mean anything?  Or is it just New-Age jargon that
sounds neat?  On what scale do you measure the 'consistency' or
'frequency' of life?  And can life have a darker _and_ finer
consistency at the same time?  Or do light & fine go together?

	RA

rogue@ccs.northeastern.edu
--------------------------
The NSA is now funding research not only in cryptography, but in all areas
of advanced mathematics. If you'd like a circular describing these new
research opportunities, just pick up your phone, call your mother, and
ask for one.
Newsgroups: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: spani@mprgate.mpr.ca (Leonard Spani)
Subject: Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day
Followup-To: talk.religion.newage,alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 21:54:20 GMT

In article <67067@cup.portal.com>, John_-_Winston@cup.portal.com writes:
[...]
|> 
|> Subject: Dolphin Spills The Beans.
|>   As most of you know scientist have been working for a long time to try to 
|> communicate with dolphins. Just lately a person using a computer was 
[...]
|>   So that's it folks. Would a dolphin lie?
|> John Winston
[...]



Thanks John,

That was the most fun I've had in days. The part that really amused me 
was the (unintelligible) parts ;^)


Leonard.


P.S> I noticed the "Subject: Dolphin Spills The Beans." line burried in 
     the post. If you can only get it into the header we can get rid of 
     the annoying "Re: July 4, 1992 - Global Spiritual Independence Day"
     subject once and for all.


-- 
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Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: "Minus-Emission Cars" Tap Hydrogen
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:21:30

I wrote:

>The amount of water vapor that would be emitted if all energy were obtained
>from it would have no noticable effect on the amount in the atmosphere.
>Small increases would just increase rain slightly.

Here "it" refers to hydrogen.

Mark Kubiske grumbled:

     I don't understand what you're trying to say here.  What is
     "it"?  If "it" means the oceans, then you've got it
     backwards - one does not obtain energy from in converting
     liquid water to vapor.  If "it" means atmospheric water
     vapor, then how do you emit water vapor by extracting its
     energy?  Also, increases in water vapor does not just
     increase rain.  Water vapor in the atmosphere absorbs solar
     energy, but to a greater extent than does CO2 because of its
     high specific heat.  When that water vapor condences and it
     rains, that heat is released because of the change of state.
     That heat may be used to evaporate more liquid water, and as
     I said, the cycle opperates at a higher level of dynamic
     equilibrium.

There would be more water in the atmosphere but only a tiny amount
more.  Can anyone give an estimate of the actual rates of
exchange of water between the atmosphere and the oceans?

The proposals for using hydrogen as fuel are based on separating
water into hydrogen and oxygen using solar or nuclear energy.  All
other ways of getting hydrogen don't get enough to be interesting.
Presently hydrogen is obtained from natural gas, but if you are
talking about a fuel except for rockets, it is more efficient to
burn the natural gas directly.  Hydrogen is used as rocket fuel
because it is the lightest possible fuel.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

Newsgroups: talk.environment,talk.politics.misc
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:37:39 EDT
From: <MEK104@psuvm.psu.edu> Mark Kubiske
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Subject: Re: "Minus-Emission Cars" Tap Hydrogen

jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy) writes:

>I would like to repair Elaine Weinrub's bubble.

A formidable task indeed.

>Water vapor in the air is in equilibrium with the oceans.

Thats what I said, something to the effect of "the hydrologic cycle would be
at a higher state of dynamic equilibrium".

>The amount of water vapor that would be emitted if all energy were obtained
>from it would have no noticable effect on the amount in the atmosphere.
>Small increases would just increase rain slightly.

I don't understand what you're trying to say here.  What is "it"?  If "it"
means the oceans, then you've got it backwards - one does not obtain energy
from in converting liquid water to vapor.  If "it" means atmospheric water
vapor, then how do you emit water vapor by extracting its energy?  Also,
increases in water vapor does not just increase rain.  Water vapor in the
atmosphere absorbs solar energy, but to a greater extent than does CO2
because of its high specific heat.  When that water vapor condences and it
rains, that heat is released because of the change of state.  That heat may
be used to evaporate more liquid water, and as I said, the cycle opperates
at a higher level of dynamic equilibrium.

>Besides, if hydrogen were used on a large scale, it would have to come from
separating water into hydrogen and oxygen.

I thought the idea was to use certain pollutants as a source of H.  I didn't
considerer water as a pollutant.  Even if water is used as a source of H,
what is the energy source that would split the water molecule?  Green plants
use the sun.  Do we have the technology to duplicate that?

MEK
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Subject: Upcoming Environmental Education Conference
Keywords: education conference wisconsin
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:39:36 GMT
Distribution: ny, mn, wi
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

My sister, who does not have Usenet access, asked that I post this for her.

 
Upcoming Environmental Education Conference
 
hosted by the Wisconsin Association for Environmental Education
 
October 29-31
 
Near Merrimac, Wisconsin
 
Choose from over 32 sessions, 16 field trips, or five workshops designed
for classroom teachers, nature center professionals, and others.
 
To encourage increased awareness and responsibility by understanding the
environment.
 
Keynote address by Ben Logan.
 
Music by Ken Lonnquist.
 
For more information call Mata Riegel 715-824-2428.
 
Posted by Carl Oppedahl AA2KW, oppedahl@panix.com
 
Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker)
Subject: Re: Strip Mining in National Parks
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:17:09 GMT

James Nonnemacher (lrxi00@icts01.Kodak.COM) wrote:
: Does anyone have more information on the Bush Administration's plans to allow logging and strip
: mining in National Parks. Heard about this on the 11:00pm news last night -- it was given no more than
: 30 sec. and I haven't seen the morning paper yet.

	Hmmm, we could easily get our names confused.  Very doubtful this
refers to National Parks -- more likely National Forests or Bureau of
Land Management holdings.
	Given Bush and Lujan, doesn't surprise me if it's true of the 
national forests or BLM.  They'd get lynched if they proposed this in
National Parks.

	Jim Acker
	jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov

Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: Sharks
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:38:37 GMT

I'm interested in getting any information about groups who are involved in
halting the slaughter of sharks.  If you have any information, please email 
me at:   rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com

Thanks.

Chris Hudson
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I did *what*?  Sorry, but I think you've got the wrong guy...
                 
Save the Sharks! 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: loeb@ai.mit.edu (Eric Loeb)
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Subject: (none)
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:39:19 GMT

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Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska)
Subject: Re: Strip Mining in National Parks
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:25:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.191709.13095@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> jgacker@news.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker) writes:
>James Nonnemacher (lrxi00@icts01.Kodak.COM) wrote:
>: Does anyone have more information on the Bush Administration's plans to allow logging and strip
>: mining in National Parks. Heard about this on the 11:00pm news last night -- it was given no more than
>: 30 sec. and I haven't seen the morning paper yet.
>
>	Hmmm, we could easily get our names confused.  Very doubtful this
>refers to National Parks -- more likely National Forests or Bureau of
>Land Management holdings.
>	Given Bush and Lujan, doesn't surprise me if it's true of the 
>national forests or BLM.  They'd get lynched if they proposed this in
>National Parks.
>
>	Jim Acker
>	jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov
>

The rule relates to paying land owners for losing the ability to do
strip mining on their land when they haven't yet applied for mining
permits.  Other rules apply to those who already have permits.  The
rule does technically apply to National Parks, but most of the 
applicable land is in the east while most of the parks are in the
west.  The administration says the rule won't lead to strip mining
in parks while environmentalists say it might.  The administration
says that compensation to land owners from this rule will cost about
$11 million.  Environmentalists say it will cost hundreds of millions.
I am unsure how this rule will lead to strip mining, unless its due
to an unwillingness to pay the compensation.

Basically, it seems to early to know what impact the rule will have.
Its not _supposed_ to do anything to allow more strip mining from what
I have read about it, but I wouldn't put it beyond the administration
to try and sneak something by.
-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
Newsgroups: talk.environment
From: gurd@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Daffy Duck)
Newsgroups: talk.environment
Subject: MD Governer wins APTA award
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:26:15 GMT
Reply-To: gurd@wam.umd.edu

The following article appeared in the September 28th. issue of Passenger  
Transport, Copyright 1992, American Public Transit Association.  It  
acknowledges the achievments of Schaefer in advancing public  
transportation in MD, and making it a model for the nation.

"Governer Schaefer To Receive Award, Address Delegates"

     Maryland Gov. William Donald Schaefer, a national leader in promoting  
modern urban public transportation for the people of his state, will be  
receiving APTA's State Distinguished Service Award and will also be  
speaking at the closing of General Session at APTA's Annual Meeting in  
Sand Diego.
     The Annual Meeting kicks offi in less than three weeks on Sunday,  
Oct. 18, and continues through Wednesday, Oct. 21.
     Gov. Schaefer, now serving in his second term as governer after four  
terms as the mayor of Baltimore, led the way for the development of  
Baltimore's new Central Corridor Light Rail Line.  He will recieve his  
award at the Tuesday morning Grand Awards Breakfast.
     The governer will address the Wednesday afternoon General Session  
...
     In addition to getting the light rail system built in under three  
years, the governer has also streamlined rail passenger service in  
Maryland by comining the adminstration of the State Railroad  
Administration with the Mass Transit Administration.  In the past five  
years, commuter rail ridership on MARC trains have grown from 6,000 to  
18,000 daily.
     Schaefer also worked to ensure the completion of the last segment of  
the Baltimore Metro system, which will be completed in late 1994.

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