HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Error Message Help
From: cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 16:21:21 +1300
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hovel Bulletin Board System
Keywords: 1.65 uucp

walsh@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.p.walsh) writes:

> I am attempting to get one waffle 1.65 to transmit mail to another
> waffle 1.65. (My first attempt at a waffle to waffle transfer.)
> 
> The first computer dials, logs in, and both show a message
> 
>     Awaiting remote identification
> 
> time out, and the link drops. One side is using poll to call
> the other, and the answering system goes through the normal
> login to Exit 40 (uucico -r0 -b9600). Prior to the "Awaiting
> remote identification" message, I see the text
> 
>     Waffle UUCP 1.65 ...
>     on <name> answering, debug level 3
>     Incoming device 1 at 9600
> 
> What have I forgotten to set up?

Hmm.  Had a problem like that when I upgraded to higher speeds.  When using
-b9600, you should also lock UUCICO to 38400 or 19200.  UUCICO displays
something like:
          Incoming device 1 at 9600 (locked at 38400)

Solved the problem for me.  Don't forget to use flow control (&K3)

--
cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz    X Phil Ross
cybapunk@tornado.welly.gen.nz  X Sysop of The Hovel BBS
cybapunk@sideways.welly.gen.nz X Author of Lords And Ladies, _THE_ BBS door!
     ... If at first you don't succeed, redefine success ...
From: bilbo@burrow.cojones.com (Bill Beau)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problem with modem result code
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:21:11 GMT
Organization: The Burrow

kai@genepi.hanse.de (Kai Altenfelder) writes:

> i have got problems with the result codes from my modem:
> If somebody logs in Waffle prompts "CONNECT 19200" although the
> modem-display shows 2400, 9600 or what else.

Waffle echoes the modem results, so Waffle isn't the problem.  You have
your modem configured to report the DTE speeds (modem-to-computer) rather
than the DCE speeds (modem-to-modem).

> The problem is that if the user wants to download, dsz sends with
> 19200 (%d = 19200) though the carrier may be 300 ;-)

This really isn't a problem.  DSZ will work just fine even though Waffle is
feeding it the DTE rate instead of the DCE rate.  It just looks tacky...:-)

Bilbo

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From: system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:09:10 GMT
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10-155, Auckland, New Zealand

kilgore@obelisk.pillar.com (Stan Hall) writes:

> 
>    I am pretty sure that non command (hitting return) and invalid commands
>    are both counted though I don't feel like trying it out.
> 
>    Kilgore
> 
Well I just did, and YES an invalid command and just hitting 
enter/return/CR both generate a "turn", "move" or "command" for the 
purposes of sinning. So it would be very easy for a crazy terminal to 
send 256 CR's in 2 minutes.

-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
  This .sig unintentionally left blank.

Hello! I'm a .SIG Virus. Copy me and spread the fun.
From: dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle "dirs" File
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:56:44 GMT
Organization: I mistook my BBS for a hat

>Do all of the silly numbers in the left hand column of the dirs file have to
>be consecutive? (if so what a dumb idea!)

No, those silly numbers do not even have to be numbers. They are to be
the name of the file area, in the future. Currently the numbers aren't used
at all, and you may ignore them. (A future version may differ.) At no 
time will they be required to be in any order, though.

...Tom

dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell
From: david@csource.oz.au (david nugent)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Login into Waffle through the net
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 23:47:02 +1000
Reply-To: david@csource.oz.au
Organization: Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia

cuadrasola@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

> I am trying to set up a BBS using Waffle on a 486 running DOS and connected
> to Internet through an Ethernet card.  What I would like to do is to be able
> log into waffle from another Internet computer.  Is this possible?  How?

Under DOS?

Yes, It would be possible if there was such a thing as a FOSSIL which talked
tcpip, either to the ethernet card directly, or (better, imho) to some
other hardware independant layer, like the Clarkson drivers or Novell's
OSI layer.


>  Would it be possible to set up Waffle so that both MODEM and Internet
> connections could be made?

As above, in theory, correct.  I've been tempted a few times to venture
into this.


> Is this something that only the Unix version of Waffle can handle?

In the absense of such a FOSSIL, this looks like your only available option.
But I wouldn't call it a 'bad' option, but any means. :-)


> If so, how can I telnet to a PC?

It has to be running something like telnetd.  Several are available, but
what you get on that DOS box is entirely dependant on what services that
server provides.  Certainly not WAFFLE though.


david


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: grant@bluemoon.rn.com (Grant DeLorean)
Subject: Re: Modem angst
Organization: Blue Moon
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 16:35:03 GMT

otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:

>Well, maybe current in the US.  Unfortunately USR doesn't seem to be in
>any hurry to get them out to the rest of the world.  My friend works in
>the company importing USR to Finland, and says trying to get them interested
>enough to get into business is like talking into a vacuum cleaner.  And I

 I must admit I have never tried living anywhere else or dealing with
US computer/peripheral companies from outside the US...  Talking to a
vacuum cleaner, eh?

>> revisions (separate from ROM revisions) in the first DS modems...  The
>> "crawl out" was during shipping, not use. It was a simple fix, open the case
>> and re-seat the card.

>Thanks for letting me know, I've done that a few times ;-)

 I had several come through from USR that needed to be reseated, though
after being reseated once they were fine from then on (even after being
moved within an office and to a new building).

>Well, we'd really be happy if USR would ship some of them outside the US !
>And the FAX extensions would also be nice... still waiting.

 Maybe the company your friend works for needs some competition on the
importing USR products biz...
-- 
\   Grant DeLorean  - IHMSA & NRA Life Member -  (grant@bluemoon.use.com)   /

   Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.  -- Euripides

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:13:07 GMT

In article <PckcsB3w165w@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz> system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
|I've never seen anyone come close to 256 commands ...

Well.. uh..

02303 9600b wcf      Bill Fenner <9+>            4:51p   6:16p   THU 256  SiN
04445 9600b wcf      Bill Fenner <9>             9:36a  10:25a   WED 256  SiN
04979 9600b wcf      Bill Fenner <9+>           10:50p  11:47p   SAT 256  SiN

Of course, this was about 2 years ago, when I had a little more time on my
hands... (yes, my /waffle/admin/callers file is over a meg... we're over 25k
callers now...)

Anyway, I hereby formally retract my statement of "This has never happened
to me."  When I did my grep of callers, there were quite a few that were
logged off for SiN who were only on for a few minutes.  I'd like to apologize
to Willard for being so unwilling to believe that what he described could
have been happening.

  Bill
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Utility to Explode Digests?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 06:41:32 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (daniel lance herrick) writes:

> Ok, Roy, as a penance for offending you in my first response in this
> thread:

No offense really taken, Dan.  After all, it's an aesthetic quest.

Thanks for the algorithm!
--
Roy M. Silvernail --  roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu - OR-  cybrspc!roy@cs.umn.edu
  perl -e '$x = 1/20; print "Just my \$$x! (adjusted for inflation)\n"'
          "Does that not fit in with your plans?"
                      -- Mr Wiggen, of Ironside and Malone (Monty Python)
From: system@coldbox.cojones.com (Bryan Lockwood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: WWIV gateway
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 01:18:12 PDT
Organization: The Generation Gap

tom@spud.kludge.com (Tom Lemos) writes:

> zot@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Chris Boebel) writes:
> 
> > Whatever became of the wwiv-internet gateway program? I would be 
> > interested in helping to test this program..
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> there is already one... send mail to 1@502 on WWIVnet for more 
> information. there's a little program that will let Waffle be a WWIVnet 
> site also...it's called WWCP.

Better to send to 1@500 (wwivnet) or root@moosevax.cojones.com. He's the
author. He'll sell you a copy for a decent price. We've got the bugs out of it
and now he's working on (ahem) features. It works great- I've had it up for
something like 5 months now.

Bryan Lockwood             |  "This is the Nineties, Bubba, and there
system@cojones.com         |   is no such thing as Paranoia. It's all True."
1@501 (WWIVnet)            |   (Hunter S. Thompson)
From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: sdnet.waffle,comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: COLORS!
Keywords: Colors
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:02:33 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle) writes:

> > system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
> > > CHART FOR WAFFLE'S COLORS PARAMETER
Can somone please send me this chart? I'm interested! :-)

                              Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison)
Subject: Chat Sources for UNIX
Organization: Systems'n'Software
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 01:55:46 GMT

Is there anyone out there that has chat sources which they believe will work with
Waffle 1.65 under SunOS?

If so would you please mail to the address below.

Thanks in advance.


-- 
J. Steven Harrison, PhD.	steve@jack.sns.com
45034 Imnaha Court		Voice:	(510)623-8651
Fremont, CA   94539-6669	Data:	(510)623-8652
Systems'n'Software            	FAX:	(510)623-8656
From: Bob Van Cleef <revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Moderated groups
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 10:40:17 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Land of Garg

Hi Gang!

I just tried to do a followup to a post on a moderated group
for the first time today. What I saw was the following:
(using "rn" in 1.65, both old and new commands - old shown)

-------------------------------------------------------------------
End of article 1890 (of 1959) What next?
: follow
Subject: Re: ** Dating **

NOTE - Please delete any unnecessary text in the
       quoted message, as it tends to get annoying...

The soc.religion.christian newsgroup is MODERATED, meaning that all
messages posted here must be approved by the moderator.

MAIL this message to moderator? y

To: soc-religion-christian@
No such user: soc-religion-christian
End of article 1890 (of 1959) What next?
-------------------------------------------------------------------

It went immediately to the question, never giving me a chance to
edit the text. Followups to unmoderated groups have always
worked properly.

USENET file entry: 
      soc.religion.christian  /mod /mexp=168

Note: It did not append the backbone entry because of an error in the
      static file, which has been corrected. Which probably kept me
      from upsetting the moderator. <grin>

corrected STATIC file entry: 
      backbone  : uunet.uu.net

Pointers to appropriate documents or config files appreciated.

Bob


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The Land of Garg BBS             /|\               BBS (408) 378-5108
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From: dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Multiple modems?
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:49:18 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:

> 2. "Multiple options may be specified..." Well I tried, and failed. 
> Probably my syntax. Can someone give me an example. Depending on the 
> answer(s) to 1. I may not want to at the moment, but it would be useful 
> to know. I tried:
> 
> multitask: windows dos
>  and
> multitask: windows, dos

Try this one on for size:

multitask: dos windows

> and received messages about invalid parameters in my static file.

Annoying, eh?

> 
> -- 
>   Wayne McDougall, BCNU
>   This .sig unintentionally left blank.
> 
> Hello! I'm a .SIG Virus. Copy me and spread the fun.


-- 
dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
From: cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: FILES ( . option )
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:28:15 GMT
Organization: COW Pastures

olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle) writes:

> 1  /dir="c:"               /deny
^^^
        That's a booboo.  Waffle wont allow nonprivie users to go into
any directory that you haven't specified in the DIRS file.

> 2  /dir="c:/abc"           /access=9
> 3  /dir="c:/def"           /access=9

        Some may want to also note (possible bug/feature)...  If you use
4DOS's descript.ion files with Waffle, you must specify the upload
directory in the DIRS file, or the description will disappear.  

--
Charles Stephens, SysOp
COW Pastures BBS,
Kennesaw, GA  +1 404 421 0764
cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us
From: david@cssnet.UUCP (J. David Schronce)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle 1.65 Enhancement or Bug?
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:56:36 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Services

magus@brewhau.bison.mb.ca (James Copland) writes:

> Until one time I finished reading my news/mail and logged off at
> 17 min. past the hour, precisly one min. after I have cron set to
> poll my hosts.  The logoff proceded to the "Calls: 9999" message
> but the modem didn't reset.  Then batch cut in and then uucico.
> The outgoing call gave a "NO CARRIER" message, then reset the
> modem and connected on the next try.  This happens anytime after
> 16 mins. after the hour till the next hour.

I HIGHLY recommend a DOS progrsm called ATSEND.  I use it to send 
commands to the modem from the command line.  I include ATSEND H0 at 
the top of RUN.BAT and now I never have that problem....


---dave---
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|J. David Schronce     "Death Before Decaf!!"    david@cssnet.UUCP|
|Computer Support Services                            919/775-2145|
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
|          "The opinions and the company are both mine..."        |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
From: david@cssnet.UUCP (J. David Schronce)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: newsgroup<->mail
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:45:32 GMT
Organization: Computer Support Services

I've seen several clever ways to move mail into a newsgroup, but can 
anyone give me a way to move a newsgroup into mail?  Specifically, I have 
some sites on our local UUCP net that don't have news capability and I 
would like to send them the news via mail.

Only a couple small groups mind you.  Specifically, how can I intercept 
incoming news for say c.b.w and post it to c.b.w and queue each message 
as mail to these sites?
 
Your suggestions (not RTFM's) are solicited and appreciated!!

---dave---
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|J. David Schronce     "Death Before Decaf!!"    david@cssnet.UUCP|
|Computer Support Services                            919/775-2145|
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
|          "The opinions and the company are both mine..."        |
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: poor transfer rates in Dos Waffle
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 22:00:19 PDT
Reply-To: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC, Federal Way WA

peterson@choctaw.csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson) writes:

> In article <3Zw3RB2w165w@somenode.uucp>, a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs)
> |> peterson@ZGNews.LoneStar.Org (Bob Peterson) writes:
> |> 
> |> >   I just started talking to another Waffle 1.65 running on a fast 386
> |> > under Desqview-386, X00 FOSSIL locked at 19,200 bps, 7 packet window,
> |> > transferring news packets, and see log entries like these.
> |> > 
> |> > 27-Sep-92  19:40 19:44  bluecafe   | 4226 sent   38 rcvd  0 errs 1474 cp
> |> > 02-Oct-92  04:09 04:13  bluecafe   | 5035 sent   38 rcvd  0 errs 1482 cp
> |> > 02-Oct-92  17:12 17:13  bluecafe   | 1097 sent    9 rcvd  0 errs 1467 cp

>   The other end is also a USR HST DS with V.32bis.  Talking to a
> QX/V.32c (V.32 but not V.32bis) I usually see just over 1000 cps, e.g., 
> 
> ...(10/6-6:58:47) ... [cua0] -> 175794 / 170.369 secs, 1031 bytes/sec
> ...(10/6-7:07:59) ... [cua0] -> 569815 / 551.197 secs, 1033 bytes/sec
> ...(10/6-7:13:11) ... [cua0] -> 321295 / 310.830 secs, 1033 bytes/sec
> ...(10/6-7:19:54) ... [cua0] -> 414959 / 401.829 secs, 1032 bytes/sec
> ...(10/6-7:22:51) ... [cua0] -> 181830 / 175.917 secs, 1033 bytes/sec
> 


since I started this thread, I thought I'd give an update.

I connect to a Sun with a WorldBlazer that can't run windows=7
for certain reasons...I'm running a Digicom ScoutPlus and DOS Waffle
(no multitasking) and recently turned the news back on...I'm getting
about 750 cps to it when the individual batches get reported while
things are transferring...the total comes out less due to roundoff error,
etc. from how Waffle reports things.

still not great.  I still haven't gotten an answer regarding why
I can call a Telebit Trailblazer system with Procomm and get 1040 cps
but I can't hit 700 via Waffle uucp to the same system.

The other possible tell-tale was that I can get 1620 cps to a USR-DS
when I download files from them in Procomm, but when they call my Waffle
they only get 1340 downloading from me (why the difference?).

I'm running the following Fossil command for Waffle if that helps...
        c:\fossil\bnu\bnu /Z0/M-/L1=38400


     .......... Vince Skahan ..... vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ..........
    Every time that man [George Bush] opens his mouth, the price goes up.
                            - local talk-radio caller about Mr 'read my lips'
                               and his budgets
From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:52:24 GMT
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) writes:

> >I have seen it of 5 different computers (2 brand name and 3 clones),
> >4 different modems (Hayes, USR DS, Supra v.32bis, clone), several
> >different serial cards (with 16450 and 16550).
> 
> >MOST of the time I have no problem. But, every once in a while carrier
> >will be lost and Waffle will just sit there until it times out due
> >to keyboard inactivity. It looks to me like Waffle isn't checking
> >carrier often enough.
> 
> When waiting for keystrokes, Waffle is constantly checking carrier.
> The code to do this is simple, straightforward, and is NOT flawed. If 
> your configuration is not reporting a carrier loss, it is NOT 
> Waffle's problem. If you're getting this behavior, it is one of the
> other components of your system. 

Well it's funny how the exact SAME setups work fine 100% of the time with
other BBS packages. Maybe it has something to do with the fossil driver.
My other bbs software (which I wrote) handles it's own i/o.


--
System@micromed.com (Duane Davis)                   voice (408)293-3299
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From: clubzen.fidonet.org!garrett!mwallis
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Can FEEDS files have multiple entries?
Keywords: dos waffle 165 news feed
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 09:26:27 PDT
Organization: garrett - (Clan Zen Relay Network) Sunnyvale, CA

system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:

> What would be nice is to let down-mail sites be able to specify / change 
> the groups that they want and have the FEEDS file edited automatically. 
> This is something I plan to work on....unless someone else is already 
> doing so, or has done so. Comment?

I agree whole heartedly. I was/am planning to work on this once I find
where I left my "free time".            8-)

In the mean time, speak up if you've already written it.

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clubzen.fidonet.org!garrett!mwallis (Michael Wallis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: DOS 1.65 UUCICO bug
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:38:17 GMT

andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann) writes:

>  I just found a bug in UUCICO. My remote host was 'unable to create work
>file.' Waffle didn't do anything to the .DAT and .XQT files, but still
>deleted the .CMD file!! I have to manually create these now so that this
>'lost' mail will get out.

Let's think about this for a moment.  You are sending a file to a remote
site, which, for some reason either has a permissions problem or maybe
a directory doesn't exist, etc. (something that prohibits a file from
being created).  You make an attempt to place a file there and it fails.
Are you saying you WANT to make another phone call, that will ALSO fail?
What if this call were a toll one?  I can see Waffle dutifully making
a call every 'n' minutes, at whatever toll rates are in effect.  I think
the deletion of the CMD file is necessary.  What would you rather see?