HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: that'd be in the butt, bob
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 18:53:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.183408.1027@bert.eecs.uic.edu> artn@bert.eecs.uic.edu (Ellyn Sandor) writes:
>	I, too, would like to see a tape, but I think the numbers of
>direct witnesses in this case leads me to believe it really happened.
>
>				Stephan Meyers
Too many motto-of-the-week nominees; not enough weeks.

cjl
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From: csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: UL Sighted
Keywords: n
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:55:20 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

In article <1992Jul24.070717.2948@echo.philips.nl> dolf@echo.philips.nl (Dolf Grunbauer) writes:

[stuff about Motorola badges...]

>
>Just read in the paper that some Asian country (Brunei I think) is
>burning and returning (the not burnt ones) tyres made in Japan. Turns out
>that the grooves in the surface of a tyre is some rude text in thier
>language (arabic ?)..

Yeah, this was in the paper in UK today, as well. The Sultanate of Brunei,
a devout moslem country, apparently, destroyed loads of Mitsubishi tyres (I
thought they made Zeros...) on the grounds that the tread pattern was the same
as a verse of the Koran written in the local language. Same sort of thing
has been going on in Bradford, UK, with some local shoe company, to do with
the pattern on the soles of one of the shoes they make. Walking on the words
of the Prophet is considered an insult to islam...

Later,

The Wisp.
-- 
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     Chris Williams <csuah@uk.ac.warwick.csv> aka <csuah@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
"Tony Greig in the slips, legs apart, waiting for a tickle"
                                      Brian Johnson (thanks to A. Simha 8^>)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: "Eat the rich"
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:55:49 GMT

gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu ("Happy Fun Ball") writes:
>I have this T-shirt.  It's solid black, and on the front there is a skull and
>crossbones (done in flat white).  Except where the bones should be, there is 
>a knife and fork instead.  Underneath is the phrase "Eat the rich".

>Now, ever since I've had this shirt (maybe 5 years) I've been to a _lot_ of
>places that sold some pretty funcky T-shirts, but I've yet to find anything
>similar (and I've been to quite a few places in the U.S.).  Nobody I know (or
>have talked to about it) seems to have any idea where this logo came from.

Krokus had an album a long time back with the song Eat the Rich, which
was fairly popular.  The Headhunter album, I believe, which had a
picture of a golden skull on the front.

"Eat the rich - the poor are tough and stringy!"
-- 
Try to make new friends; write your name and phone number in the company
rest-room.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: tsmaster@media.mit.edu (David LeCompte)
Subject: Re: Craig Shergold gif?
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:48:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.140845.3463@athena.mit.edu> tlouie@athena.mit.edu (Tom Louie) writes:
>Is there a Craig Shergold gif/bitmap/ASCII image out there?  If so, I'd
>like to have a copy.  Thanks.
>
>ObUL: A friend of mine is doing a computer ray-traced animation of Craig
>Shergold feeding Alka-Seltzer to sea gulls.
>
>Tom "Boom" Louie
Would this qualify as a snuff film? Could we turn this around to have
Craig eating the sea gulls (tastes like chicken!) and then the whole
mess (seagulls, alka seltzer, and Craig) explode? Would this be a
snuff film?

Dave "ooh, ooh, me too. How about exploding tennis players?" LeCompte

-- 
---------------------
ObSig
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: kmnollet@athena.mit.edu (Kenneth M Nollett)
Subject: Re: A Man, A Woman, A Bed, and Handcuffs (was Anyone heard this one?)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:40:09 GMT

In article <11407@optilink.UUCP> manley@optilink.UUCP (Dave Manley) writes:
>In article <24814@dog.ee.lbl.gov> TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:

>>Well, there's a line in the FAQ list where there's a woman who's bound
>>to a bed and her husband is found in the closet dressed in a superhero's
>>costume with a broken leg.
>
>The variant I heard had the husband in a batman suit, jumping up and
>hitting his head on the ceiling fan.  Resulting in an unconscious
>husband on the floor.  Wife screams.  Neighbors call 911.  A neighbor
>heard this from a person she worked with.  Claimed it happened in
>a nearby town.
>
I heard this variant from that great purveyor of UL's, Paul Harvey, when the
first Batman movie was current.

Ken "page...two!" Nollett


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Subject: Pure Soap (was: out of 5 doctors)
Reply-To: lawson@acuson.com (Drew Lawson)
Organization: ACUSON, Mountain View, CA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:29:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.114506.41934@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
	brnt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>Actually, this brings up some questions I always had that Ivory soap 99 44/100%
>pure claim:
>
>	1. Pure what?  Pure acid?  Pure dog snot?  Hardly enticing claims.
>
>	2. How can anything be 99 44/100 % pure?  Either it's pure or its not,
>right?  Sounds sort of like a doctor saying "Ma'am, your husband is 99 and
>44/100% dead.

Take chemistry.  Very few things are pure.  Getting 100% pure
_anything_ is prohibitive.

>	3. Why should soap be pure anything?  It seems to me that soap is a
>combination of many ingredients and not "pure" anything.

It should be pure SOAP.  Soap is an actual substance (or class of
substances, it's been a long time) with specific properties.  The
purity claim indicates that you are not getting dyes, perfumes, skin
medications, "moisturizing" oils, etc.

>
>Brent "or maybe its all just a statement about moral character" Dyer
-- 
Drew Lawson                      If you're not part of the solution,
lawson@acuson.com                you're part of the precipitate
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw)
Subject: Re: Right-Left
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Somewhere West of Nowhere
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:30:22 GMT


In article <24815@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) writes:

|>As some standup copic once said of Boston driving, "Crossing the street 
|>is dangerous.  If a pedestrian steps off the curb, it's your job to 
|>chase him back up there where he'll be safe."

That was Jack Gallagher, on Comedy Tonight some time ago on KQED (San
Francisco PBS station for non-locals).
--
Nolan "You should never ring-a-ding a policeman" Hinshaw
Internet: nolan@twg.com			Dingalingnet: (415)962-7197	
"... necrophilia doesn't really hurt anybody."  Rick Gordon
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:30:36 EDT
From: Michael B. Smith <MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Do the Hokey-Pokey
Distribution: na

In article <l7g8reINNahq@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James
D. Jones) says:
>
>When I was in kindergarten and first grade (early '60s), kids in the first
>couple of school grades had to learn a rather brain-dead dance called
>the Hokey-Pokey for the annual May Day dances at the school.

     (stuff deleted)

         So why this incredible staying power?  Are they still hokey-pokeying
>elsewhere out there in America?  Has the Hokey-Pokey spread to Europe by
>now?  Are there hokey-pokey sightings in Australia?  (stuff Deleted)

At Penn State/State College there is a bar called the Phyrst. Every Saturday
the Phyrst Phamly performs a sing-along show. Have been doing it the last
27ish years. The do not do the HokeyPokey at the bar on Saturdays, However:

Every July during the Center Pennsylvania Festival of the Arts the Phyrst
Phamly closes out the Main Stage(Festival Shell) on Friday night. People
fill Old Main lawn to watch and participate. There are normally between 7 and
10 thousand people there for the Fri night Phamly show. The festival draws
250 K. It is the one time the Phamly does the HokeyPokey, the entire
crowd participates. It is quite a sight to see grandma,uncle jed, and rover all
doing the H-P.

Michael Benjamin Smith
  mbs116@psuvm.psu.edu
  814-863-8142
  Penn State University
  DoD# 1428

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: shag@aero.org (Robert M. Unverzagt)
Subject: Re: Jimmy the Greek
Organization: Organization?  You must be kidding.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:42:19 GMT

In article <l7blueINNl3k@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
> 
> In article <ghartzog.0xme@terapin.com> ghartzog@terapin.com (Garrett Hartzog) 
> writes:
> 
> >he said something to the effect that blacks were physically bigger than their
> >white counterparts (in terms of football players) because the slave masters
> >bred the bigger slave together or some sh*t like that.
> 
> I never understood what the big deal was over that.  Granted, the concept
> of breeding people like animals is an offensive one, but Jimmy didn't say
> it was right -- he said it was so.  
> 
> I don't know whether anyone actually attempted to breed slaves in the 
> antebellum South, or if they did, how widespread the practice was.  
> But if that was done, it wasn't Jimmy the Greek's fault, and if it 
> wasn't, the worst thing he was guilty of was being misinformed.  Either 
> way, he didn't deserve to be fired over it.
> 
> From a practical standpoint, Jimmy was unwise to even bring up such a 
> volatile subject in the context of a sports program; in fact, I heard
> a rumor that he was drunk at the time.  But the public's indignant 
> reaction was misplaced, and the network (CBS?) displayed appalling
> spinelessness by canning him.
> 

If I remember right, in the video clip of him saying it he was
in a bar and looked pretty shmoasted to me.  In addition to all
the good things pointed out above, don't forget that Jimmy once
punched Brent Muskburger (sp?) in the nose, so he can't be all
bad.

Shag

-- 
       Rob Unverzagt        |  ...for shall we see engineers trying to turn
  shag@aerospace.aero.org   |  themselves into men of aesthetic sensibility?
unverzagt@courier2.aero.org |  That would be the real danger...
   18348@rhodes.aero.org    |                          --  Le Corbusier
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: jvmg9796@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Doc)
Subject: Re: Bear eats child's face
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:41:06 GMT

I dont know about that one, but I did see in Faces of Death (forget if it
was the original or one of the sequels) a scene where there were 2 carloads
of tourists stopped at the same place to film a bear.  The one photographer
was smart and stayed in his car.  The other had his wife throw bread out
the window to attract the bear while he got out and photographed the bear.
Well, he let the bear get between him and the car, and once the wife ran
out of bread, the bear decided to eat him.  Documented on film by the 
other tourist.  Quite a "grisly" scene. :)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Zych)
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:38:13 GMT

thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:

>>In article <keNm7uG00hYz0iIUo4@andrew.cmu.edu> "Jonathan R. Ferro" <jf41+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>>I still get a kick out of the Burger King commercial that proudly states
>>>that there are "over 1023" ways to put toppings your burger...
>>>
>>>Jon "I'll have mine with 1101010001" Ferro

>There should be more than that, because there are three settings:
>with, without, and extra.
>-- 

Actually, there are four -- none, light, regular, and heavy.  So with six
toppings (mayo, lettuce, tomato, pickle, catsup, onion) there should be
4**6 or 4096 different combinations.  Oh yeah, you can also get a vegetarian
Whopper (no meat, no kidding) so I guess that would double the number of 
possibilities to 8192.  Then there are the people who don't like sesame seeds
and order it with two bottom buns, so now we're up to 16384 combinations.  Add
in the various combinations of mustard and bacon and you're up to 196608 or so
combinations. (light, normal, heavy mustard; bacon, heavy bacon).  So I guess
they're selling themselves short when they say 'over 1023 combinations'.

Sorry for the rambling...aren't combinations fun?

Tom Zych   tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

--Former Burger King wage slave--

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Chelsea Clinton Fan Club
Keywords: continental drift, get me?
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:51:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.91149.3201@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>
>Is is really Chelsey? I must say my rosary a dozen times in penance.
>

The New York Times spells her name "Chelsea".  Up off your knees.

Phil "Of course, if you've said then already, get out there and
SIN" Gustafson
-- 
|play: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG; {ames|pyramid|vsi1}!zorch!phil                |
|work: phil@gsi; sgi!gsi!phil            | Phil Gustafson                   |
| "Don't believe in ads.  Don't believe in government.  Watch yourself --   |
|  everybody is trying to screw you!"  Bill Gaines, 1922-1992               |
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.books,rec.arts.sf.misc
From: brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton)
Subject: Re: Mandatory negatives (was Re: Agnostics and Athiests)
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:22:32 GMT

I'm not saying at all that "you don't have to" means "you must not."

I'm simply describing the facts.  The people who call themselves
agnostics do not believe in god.  They make the very fine point that
this is different from the atheist's viewpoint "I believe there is no
god."   I understand this difference just fine, thanks.  No need
to get insulting.  I just argue that it is not very meaningful.

The agnostic when asked, "is there a god?"  might say "I don't know,"
rather than "I think not."   SO WHAT?   That's about the only difference.
The agnostic does not go to church, or follow any moral code because it was
handed down by some god.  The agnostic does not worship or have specific
plans for the afterlife or any of the things that distinguish the faithful.

She is 99% the same as the athiest when it comes to everything but how
a few questions and answered and how a few points are argued.  Big deal.
I was just in opposition to the statement that the agnostic is halfway
between the theist and atheist.   When it comes to examining your life, your
morals, almost everything that matters, the agnostic is the same as the
atheist.   Not halfway at all.

-- 
Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
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From: rogers@rosencrantz.osf.org (Andrew Rogers)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.humor,rec.arts.books
Subject: Re: Laszlo Toth
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:27:37 GMT
Organization: HICAM/OSD

In article <1992Jul27.143843.3915@sbil.co.uk> mikeu@dinar.sbi.COM (Michael Urbanski) writes:
>Wasn't Laszlo Toth the name of the guy who took a hammer to
>Michelangelo's Pieta twenty or so years ago?  

Yup - just about 20 years ago, as I recall.  And in the decade-plus since the
original _Lazlo Letters_, you're the only other person I've encountered who
recognized the name.

Andrew "Pieta? I thought it said Pinata" Rogers
From: csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: ME-163 Komet
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:22:02 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

In article <1992Jul29.154127.21264@sniap.mchp.sni.de> Mike.Hoffmann@sniap.mchp.sni.de (Mike Hoffmann) writes:
>In article <6fdnbb4p@csv.warwick.ac.uk> csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) writes:
>>All fine, except for the designation. All the history programmes I saw, and
>>books I read said that the Komet was a Heinkel, not a Messerschmidt(sp?),
>>so it was He 163. ME (i'm not going to try THAT spelling again! ;-> )
>
>Hmmm. COuld you be mixing something up?
>
>The Komet was definitely a Me-163 built by Messerschmitt (der Deutsche
>schlaegt wieder zu!). Maybe you're thinking of the He-162 "Volksjaeger"?
>

I could indeed. I wasn't sure, and it had been nagging. Thanks muchly.

The Wisp.
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"Tony Greig in the slips, legs apart, waiting for a tickle"
                                      Brian Johnson (thanks to A. Simha 8^>)
From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Bear eats child's face
Date: 30 Jul 1992 01:20:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

I read this same story in National Lampoon's "True Facts" column about
twelve years ago, only it was the child's hands being eaten off after
they had been smeared with honey.

Brian "America's Funniest Home Maulings" Scearce
---
Brian Scearce                               bls@sector7g.eng.sun.com
        The above does not necessarily represent Sun policy.
          It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.

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From: dwight@locus.com (Dwight Tovey)
Subject: Re: SHOCKING STORIES
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:20:07 GMT

I was an Electronics Communications Technician in the Coast Guard.  One
day shortly after my ship pulled into port after a cruise, I needed to go
out and do some work on the main transmitter antenna.  Basically, this
antenna was just a steel cable strung the length of the ship.  I went
in to the radio room, tagged out the 1000W transmitter, and proceeded to
do my work on the antenna.  Meanwhile one of the radiomen came in and,
ignoring my tag, turned on the transmitter.  He keyed the mic. while I
was holding onto the antenna.  I've had electrical shocks before,
but they were nothing compared to the RF burn I got that day.  I couldn't
close my hand for a couple of weeks because of the swelling.
	/dwight
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Dwight Tovey				| I didn't claw my way to the top of
  Locus Computing Corp.			| the food chain to eat vegetables.
  (213)337-5978				|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Do the Hokey-Pokey
Date: 30 Jul 1992 20:28:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: cleanplate.ebay.sun.com

In article <1992Jul30.184645.11908@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price) writes:
>Obviuosly you mean the Hokey-Cokey. Honestly--Americans!

It's always been the hokey-pokey here in Amurrica.  If it'd been "hokey-cokey,"
Nancy Reagan and Tipper Gore would probably have condemned it for its
subversive sex-drugs lyrics ("Put your whole self in--HUHHN-Put your 
whole self out--UHH") 

Seriously (if that's appropriate, or even wise) who calls it the hokey cokey?
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From: perry@Unify.Com (Perry Clarke)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: UL Sighted
Keywords: n
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:48:45 GMT
Organization: Unify Corporation

thf2@midway.uchicago.edu wrote:
> [stuff deleted]
>
>ObUL: The kite that briefly appears during the intro of the David
>      Letterman show says "GE Sucks" in Japanese.  Unknown whether
>      a computer has yet to translate it.
>-- 

More years ago than I care to contemplate, when I worked at Motorola, we
were given badges to celebrate the release of the new 68030 microprocessor
(isn't marketing a sad profession?) which, besides the main message about
the 030, had a phrase written in Japanese characters.  I managed to start
a rumor that cropped up in all sorts of odd corners of the company that
alleged that the Japanese words were: "Intel Sucks".  I believe that
the message was actually a very worthy one concerning Quality (with a
capital Q) but most people prefered my translation.

I believe this rumor circulated counter-clockwise (for those of you who
have just tuned in from another thread).

--
Perry Clarke                   perry@unify.com                 (916) 928 6287
Unify Corporation, Sacramento, CA                   I speak only for Me, Inc.
From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: ME-163 Komet
Date: 29 Jul 1992 15:47:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cleanplate.ebay.sun.com

In article <6fdnbb4p@csv.warwick.ac.uk> csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) writes:
>
>All fine, except for the designation. All the history programmes I saw, and
>books I read said that the Komet was a Heinkel, not a Messerschmidt(sp?),
>so it was He 163. 

You may well be correct, for all I know, but the reference work where
most Americans get such info (i.e., the names on the plastic model boxes)
always give the name as ME-163 over here.  I've also seen it referred to
as the ME-163 in other places. 

No one has mentioned its other fun characteristic -- a maximum flight
time of about 5 minutes.  

I vaguely remember another doomed jet fighter-bomber concept the Germans came
up with in the last days -- largely made of plywood, for cheap and easy 
production.  I think they built a few before the Allies pulled the plug.
Anybody got specifics?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: CD Pens was:Re: I Have a FAQing Headache
From: derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 07:34:39 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Jul19.202616.15036@polari> sparky@polari.online.com writes:
>derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Jul14.000959.14427@polari> sparky@polari.online.com writes:
>>>derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>>>
>>>>Now a marker pen is primarily solvent (with a little clear pigment).  
>>>
>>>Huh?
>>>
>>Derek "That should read transparent pigment for the pedants amongst you" Tearne
>I was wondering about the solvent part.  Never mind.
>

Really?  

Quick lesson in chemistry/pen dynamics/solvent abuse.

Inks work by dissolving, or occasionally suspending, a pigment in a 
carrying fluid.  The fluid transports the pigment to the page/canvas/toilet
wall and then dries leaving colour behind.     

Water is a common solvent for traditional inks.  More modern inks esp. 
marker pens use nice smelling organic solvents e.g. 1,1,1 Trichloroethane.

This is one of those abusable substances which fries the brain/egg.

You can always tell the people in class sniffing the pens as they have 
coloured rings around there noses!

In some cases the solvents used would be quite good at cleaning cd's if
you dispensed with the pigment - hence the original post.

Derek "Teacher, Teacher, Johnnys got a pen stuck up his nose" Tearne


-- 
Derek Tearne  derek@icl.co.nz or derek@fivegl.co.nz --Fujitsu SDC,Auckland,NZ

My 'self aware' .signature file failed his Turing test.  
It turns out he was just a chess playing midget in a decorative box.