HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: iran third ?
Cc: moisan@cicb.fr
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 18:33:19 GMT

moisan@cicb.fr (Herve Moisan -  stagiaire CICB) writes:
>
>i don't know why i am in this newsgroup but i have seen
>something wrong :
>==========================================
>    Country        Gld Slv Bro   Tot. pts
>------------------------------------------
> 1. Unified Team    3   2   2       77
> 2. United States   3   2   1       75
> 3. Iran            0   1   2       51
> 4. Turkey          0   1   1       48
> 5. South Korea     1   1   0       44
> 6. Bulgaria        0   1   1       34
>  . Germany         0   1   0       34
> 8. North Korea     2   0   1       28
> 9. Cuba            1   0   1       27
>    Canada          0   1   0       27
>11. Poland          0   0   0       16
>12. Mongolia        0   0   0       15
>13. Japan           0   0   1       13
>    Romania         0   0   0       13
>==========================================
>
>As a matter of fact a country which win one gold medal is better than
>another win 25 silver medals and 145 bronze medals !

Well, that's your interpretation. My interpretation is as follows:

This is the rankings of team competition, that is the comparison of
*overall* performance of *all* the wrestlers. I would say that a
country (e.g. Iran) that was able to send a team, and 8 or 9 of them
did relatively well should be placed above another (e.g North Korea)
that had only 2 or 3 members do extremely well, but not much else.

The gold medals compare individual achievement, but from a team point
of view, I prefer the point system above.

>the ranking is 
>
>1. Unified Team    3   2   2       77
>2. United States   3   2   1       75
>8. North Korea     2   0   1       28
>5. South Korea     1   1   0       44
>9. Cuba            1   0   1       27
>3. Iran            0   1   2       51
> 
>and so on ....  

You still have North Korea ranked 8th and Iran 3rd! :-)

    --mack

P.S.
Don't you all like this style of discussion better that the one that
comes with a jar of va****ne?   :-)

--
For as long as I know how to love, I know I'll stay alive.
I've got all my life to live, I've got all my love to give
and I'll survive, I will survive.          --Gloria Gaynor
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Fereydoon Farrokh-zaad's Murder
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:19:37 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

ramin@crchh467.BNR.CA (Ramin Moshiri-Tafreshi) writes:

>Ala writes:
>>This program suspected that the death of FF and Bakhtiar and Rajavi may
>                                                              ??????


I meant Kaazem Radjavi who was killed a few years ago.


>>be the work of the government of Iraq since all these people had contacts
>>with Iraq.

>This is a news to me.  Has there been any attempt to kill Rajavi?  I have
>not heard anything about it.


>Regards;
>Ramin Moshiri
From: psc@sei.cmu.edu (Peter Capell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: China/Iran
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:46:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: sei.1992Aug19.124654.7771
Organization: Software Engineering Institute


I am skeptical of the claim that Iranian civilization precedes the Chinese--
at least by very much.  After all, China can cite civilization for 5000 years.
I don't know many others, including Egypt, who can do that.  Are you sure?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: More Iranian sports trivia (By Kamran Iranpour)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 07:52:33 GMT
Organization: amjadieh

In article <1992Aug20.213530.3815@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>
>AghA hooshyAr, dastet dard nakoneh. You set me up for a healthy amount
>of flame from the ahAli by your posting.

Don't worry.  There are already few localized wars in progress.  I don't 
think this is one of them.

>bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
>
>>beautiful goal by Ghafoor Jahani our lion of the North.
>                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>[fireproof flame suit on]
>
>sheer ke rashti nemeesheh ... agar besheh sheer nemeesheh

dorough cherA, when I used to go to amjadieh, malavAn fans at one end of the
stadium would cry out 'ghafour-e mA shir-e.'  The 'nAmard' Tehrani people
would respond 'shir keh rashti nemisheh!'  It was acceptable in the context of
the amjadieh, but I wonder how many souls would be offended by that.

Just my eyewitness recall of how it used to be in 1352-1357.

>>Hooshyar F. Naraghi
>
>    --mack

Regards,
Hooshyar
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From: WALID@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Walid Majid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: baghdad is an iranian city
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:32:28 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <sehari.714183183@vincent1.iastate.edu>, sehari@iastate.edu (Babak
Sehari) says:
>
>---
>
>
>Further more, I believe Iran was the first "United States of Middle East",
>or as a mater of fact it was the first "United States" of any kind in the
>history of the world.  Isn't it Ironic that Americans, took this Iranian
>idea and reintroduce it to the world without any mention of our name?
>Aren't they plagiarising?! This is not the only instance that they done so.
>Another example is the charge card, those of you remember that in olden days
>all the grocery stores had a book, that customer used to buy things and the
>grocer used to write it in his book and by the end of the month, when most
>people got paid, they used to go to grocer and pay him the charges. -:)
>Isn't our Bazaar, has been copied under the name "Shopping mall"? -:)  Is
>not the duality that western people use to judge things come from old
>Iranian religion of Zartoshtians, " Ahora Mazda, and Ahriman".  The use of
>candle for religious purposes also have the same origin. I can go on and
>on....
>
>                        With highest regards,
>                             Babak   Sehari.


please, give us a break.  i hope you are joking (inspite your smileys
i fear you might be taking your ideas seriously).  according to your
grand logic just because iranians know how to color their hair blonde
does not mean that bleacing one's hair was invented by you folks.

think about it, will ya.
cheers!
From: farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Editorial in N.Y. Times (8/18/92)
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:21:45 GMT
	<oou.djvls@lab.ntt.jp>
Organization: none

In article <oou.djvls@lab.ntt.jp> farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes:

 @In article <TOWFIQ.92Aug19101000@nighthawk.clearpoint.com> towfiq@Microdyne.COM writes:
 @
 @ @  The following editorial appeared in Tuesday's New York Times:
 @ @
 @ @			     A Death in Iran
 @ @
 @ @Despite recurrent reports that Iran has become "moderate," persecution
 @ @of members of the Bahai faith has intensified.  On March 17, a
 @ @businessman named Bahman Samandari was summoned to the notorious Evin
 @ @prison in Teheran, where he was secretly executed the next day.
 @
 @1. what is their source? Supposedly "secretly" means that the Iranian
 @   gov. has not admitted the alleged execution.
                                                                
I should add that the NY Times has repeatedly used the notorious MKO
as its source without usually stating so.
                                                               
  - Farzin Mokhtarian
    farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp
                                                                
                                                                 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ohrd!rdowlati@cs.toronto.edu (Ramin Dowlati)
Subject: Re: Babak Sehari A Fucken Asshole
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 17:06:38 GMT

In article <3708@keele.keele.ac.uk> phd21@seq1.kl.ac.uk (A. Jaber) writes:
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole
>Babak Sehari You are a Fucken asshole

	Is something wrong with your keyboard? It seems to be 'echo'
	printing your sentences!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bhushan@fmiapd.com (Bhushan Kerur)
Subject: TEST
Organization: Fujitsu Microelectroics Inc
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 20:36:59 GMT

TEST TEST TEST
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: jahangir@atlastele.com (John Kasraee)
Subject: Re: testing !!
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:18:02 GMT

PLEASE IWGNORE.
TESTING THE NETWORK.
THANK YOU.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Maofi (addition)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 17:07:16 GMT


rooholam@point.cs.uwm.edu (Mo Rooholamini) writes:
>
>In reference to recent postings about Moafi, in fact the fee ranging
>from  US $2,400-$16,000 (or  equivalent Rial based on $1=140 Toman),
>where more educated pays more, is correct.  BUT,  that is for people 
>who were and currently are in Iran and didn't serve in the military.
>For people overseas, who  want to go back now, still the same fee as 
>before is charged [what ever it was.   I guess ~$5000 for 3-year and 
>~$16000 for permanent moafi, regardless of education]. 

This sounds a bit fishy.

If the fee for a permanent moAfi for those who live outside Iran is
$16,000, what is going to stop them from travelling to Iran first and
then obtaining their moAfi for much cheaper?

I am not claiming that the information that you have provided above is
incorrect. It may be incomplete though, or perhaps I am reading too
much into it.

    --mack

--
When I kiss your lips, I feel the rolling thunder to my fingertips.
And all the while my head is in a spin. Deep within, I'm in love.
You're my everything...                       --Santa Esmeralda
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: kamrani@ifi.uio.no (Kamran )
Subject: Re: Mosalman shodane Buchanan
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:57:52 GMT
Originator: kamrani@hadd.ifi.uio.no


Sayyed Mahdavian writes:

>benAzam be fArsiye "unmatched"!
>You tried hard to write something flawless, but you failed again! Mr., I shall
>remind you that from dastoore zabAbe avvale nazari,




KASI KEH BE MA NARIDEH BOOD< KALAGH-E KOON DARIDEH BOOD
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: Hasen.me.eng.ohio-state.edu
Subject: Re: News of Iran
Originator: harrsen@rainier.eng.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University 
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:06:12 GMT

In article <hk5.de9g7@lab.ntt.jp> farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes:
>
>                             
>News briefs from Kayhaan Havaii # 993:
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   
>o MKO cooperates with Iraqi gov. in murder of shi'a in south Iraq
>
Such accusations are totally false and baseless. Internal
affairs of Iraqis are their own business. Iranian people
have enough troubles of their own.  Mojahedin's goals are
very clear; get ride of the current regime in Iran and
establish freedom and democracy in it. They can not and will
not  waste their resources on such matters. Unlike
Khomainie, Mojahedin neither want or need to export their
revolution to other countries. We can,however, make an
example by making Iran free and prospers.


Of course, this is not the first time that such nonsense is
being told by Mullahs and their agents on the net. For the
past decade, this regime has been telling Iranians and the
rest of world that Mojahedin are finished, and that they are
no threat to the regime. Now, all of the sudden, the same
"couple of people", are in Algeria, Iraq ..... fighting the
opponents of their governments. I suppose the only reason
these governments are in power is because of Mojahedin :).

>                       
> - Farzin Mokhtarian
>                                                            

Asghar
From: farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: iran third ?
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:16:10 GMT
	<1992Aug12.183319.14979@EE.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: none

In article <1992Aug12.183319.14979@EE.Stanford.EDU> mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:

 @moisan@cicb.fr (Herve Moisan -  stagiaire CICB) writes:
 @>
 @>i don't know why i am in this newsgroup but i have seen
 @>something wrong :
 @>==========================================
 @>    Country        Gld Slv Bro   Tot. pts
 @>------------------------------------------
 @> 1. Unified Team    3   2   2       77
 @> 2. United States   3   2   1       75
 @> 3. Iran            0   1   2       51
 @> 4. Turkey          0   1   1       48
 @> 5. South Korea     1   1   0       44
 @> 6. Bulgaria        0   1   1       34
 @>  . Germany         0   1   0       34
 @> 8. North Korea     2   0   1       28
 @> 9. Cuba            1   0   1       27
 @>    Canada          0   1   0       27
 @>11. Poland          0   0   0       16
 @>12. Mongolia        0   0   0       15
 @>13. Japan           0   0   1       13
 @>    Romania         0   0   0       13
 @>==========================================
 @>
 @>As a matter of fact a country which win one gold medal is better than
 @>another win 25 silver medals and 145 bronze medals !
 @
 @Well, that's your interpretation. My interpretation is as follows:
 @
 @This is the rankings of team competition, that is the comparison of
 @*overall* performance of *all* the wrestlers. I would say that a
 @country (e.g. Iran) that was able to send a team, and 8 or 9 of them
 @did relatively well should be placed above another (e.g North Korea)
 @that had only 2 or 3 members do extremely well, but not much else.
 @
 @The gold medals compare individual achievement, but from a team point
 @of view, I prefer the point system above.
 @
 @>the ranking is 
 @>
 @>1. Unified Team    3   2   2       77
 @>2. United States   3   2   1       75
 @>8. North Korea     2   0   1       28
 @>5. South Korea     1   1   0       44
 @>9. Cuba            1   0   1       27
 @>3. Iran            0   1   2       51
 @> 
 @>and so on ....  
 @
 @You still have North Korea ranked 8th and Iran 3rd! :-)
 @
 @    --mack
 @
 @P.S.
 @Don't you all like this style of discussion better that the one that
 @comes with a jar of va****ne?   :-)

This discussion is strange! Why "your interpretation" and "my interpretation"?
What is the ranking system used by the Olympic authorities? In other words,
how did they rank the various teams which participated? Did they rank Iran
as third or not?  
  
 - Farzin
   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhang@sail.UWaterloo.CA (Farhang Honarvar)
Subject: TO A FRIEND(Majid Nili Ahmadaabaady) 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:24:04 GMT

SALAAM,
I got your message from one of my friends in Waterloo who had seen your message 
on the network. I tried to reach you at the address given on top of your message,
but it didn't work.

I think that it would be better if you try to send me an E-mail at the address
given on top of this message. I hope it would work.

I am looking forward to hearing from you very soon.

Farhang Honarvar.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 12:45:51 EDT
From: Kayvon Z. Sadeghi <KSADEGH@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Azad University
 <Bsz4rx.Ko1@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <BszB4p.4tL@acsu.buffalo.edu>

In article <BszB4p.4tL@acsu.buffalo.edu>, bashir@acsu.buffalo.edu (Noushin
Bashir) says:
>
>>Then class becomes like a dukkaan-baghghaali. You pay money for a service.
>>and the instructor becomes more like a dureh-gard going from one city
>>and school to another to repeat the same thing.
>
>Hi Ala,
>
>As I remember, people who go to Azad university don't get an official
>degree. Would you know if that is still the case?



they do give an official degree now. As far as I know.


k1


>
>And would you know how much the cuurent tutions are?
>
>My uncle who is teaching in Iranian universities (I say universities,
>because he is always traveling from one part of the country to
>another to teach classes) says that daaneshgaah-e aazaad teachers are
>highly paid, and the quality of education is pretty good there. Yes,
>it's always the rich who gets the best :-( (yeh, heck with the
>Mostazaefeen [BTW this gheshr includes karmandaan-e dolat]).
>
>                                                Just curious,
>                                                Noushin
>
>
>ps. My uncle tells his students to either leave the country or go kill
>themselves. Don't ask me why, I'm already out of that Mehnatkadeh!
>
>
---
------------------------------------------------------------
KAYVON Z. SADEGHI                  K.SADEGHI@IEEE.ORG
VOICE: 202/244-0789


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Re: News of Iran
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:57:42 GMT

In article <d2j.dn7vh@lab.ntt.jp> farzin@apollo3d.apollo3.ntt.JP (Farzin Mokhtarian) writes:
>
>                                       
>News briefs from KayhAn HavAee # 994:
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   
>             
>o Accurate bombing of MKO's headquarters in Iraq by Iranian planes
>  has created suspicions among its leaders that anti-Rajavi MKO
>  members may have supplied information to Iran. As a result, an
>  increasing number of MKO members are being tortured and executed.
>                

   IF above .T. then;
 
   This is very sad indeed. I am sorry for all those people who have
   been *mislead* by MKO leaders. I wish they all will be wise someday.
   I hope they will comeback to their own country and be helpful in other
   ways. 


	:
	:
	:

>                      
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>  Microsoft Windows (TM). Call (801) 377-4558 today!
>  Eastern Language Systems, 39 West 300 North, Provo, Utah 84601
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   Has anyone heard or had any experience with this software. 
   If you have used this software, please let me(us) know what you 
   think of it.


>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    
> - Farzin Mokhtarian
>   farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp
>                                   

   Thanks 

   Amir

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From: oueichek@ngulu (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Baghdad is an Iranian city !!!
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:46:31 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.iranian
Organization: IMAG, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem) writes:
: Babak writes:
: ***
: I just red this discussion about Baghdad.  It makes sense that Baghdad has
: a Persian root and comes from Bagh-Dad meaning garden of justice. That is:
: 
: Bagh = Garden
: Dad  = Justice
: ***
: 
: 
: Are you sure about this? Baghdad is pronounced "Bagh-dAd" and not
: "BAgh-dAd", is it not?
: 
:          |      *
:       \  |  \   _
:      __| | __| |__|_|
:               /    *
:              |
:               \_

 Aie, my teacher would be very angry if i wrote it that way. The correct
 spelling is 
 
          |       *
       \  |  \   _   
      __| | __|_|__|_|
                    *
 The "Ghain" should be connected with the DAL.
: 
: Brad Hernlem (hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU)

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From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: IRAN versus IRELAND
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:51:50 GMT
Organization: moo sorkheh

In article <92232.175328KSADEGH@auvm.american.edu> Kayvon Z. Sadeghi <KSADEGH@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>In article <Aug.19.15.29.40.1992.2121@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
>hatamian@gandalf.rutgers.edu (ShAhin) says:
>>
>>I remember hearing somewhere that "Ireland", means the land of Arya
>>for the Arians who immigrated there centuries ago.
>>"Iran" also means the same thing, does it not?
>>Can someone enlighten me? And if that is true, why don't the Irish and
>                           ********************************************
>>us look alike in any way?
> ************************
>
>
>I believe you found an answer already!!!
>
>
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>ShAhin
>---
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>KAYVON Z. SADEGHI                  K.SADEGHI@IEEE.ORG
>VOICE: 202/244-0789

If I look like Irish, which I do, and I am Iranian, which I am, then Keyon I
believe you just lost the answer already!!!  :-)

Just kidding.

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 324-1055
From: 01saeid@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Googosh.hqx.Z
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:20:46 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <+43mb!m@lynx.unm.edu>, hamjavar@carina.unm.edu (Farid Hamjavar) writes:
> 
> Hi all :
> I have problem with Googoosh.hqx.Z  in Iran_Lib/sound at tehran.stanford.edu
> 
> I don't want to go through the details of the approach I took to make it
> work on a Mac ,,,,, Anyone else has tried it ?
> 
> 
> PS :  'Iran_Lib/sound/binhex-help.Z'    was not any help either.....
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Farid Hamjavar
> Honesty is the outcome of certainty, while untruth is always rooted in fear.
> 
==============
I have tried it and it worked.
You must first uncompress it and then take the first line off of it. then
use the binhex program to convert it and then run it.

Saeid