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From: kimmel@staff.tc.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Subject: Re: Pete's Wicked Ale
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:53:18 GMT

In article <tyoung.6@stpaul.ncr.com> tyoung@stpaul.ncr.com (Todd Young) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.134353.2357@shearson.com> scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis) writes:
>
>>just had one on aturday. cost $1.50 a bottle. but it was pretty good. quite impressed.
>
>Last time I visited the Schells Brewery In New Ulm Minnesota, 
>they were brewing Petes Wicked Ale and shipping it out West
>for distribution. Is this still the case ??????? (no pun intended).
 
Nope, it's brewed by Minnesota Brewing Co.  The famous makers of Landmark
and Pig's Eye Pilsner.

>( Note: Schells makes some good beers themselves, my favorite of the 
>      12+ being the PILS label. ) 

Be sure to pick up a variety 6-pack while they're still around!

>Todd Young           Todd.Young@St.Paul.NCR.com
>NCR Corp. 
>612-638-7582
>"What, Me Worry ?"

-Rick
From: jbutt@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Jonathan Butt)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: New brewer needs assistance (please ?)
Summary: Need ideas on what to do with kegging beer.
Keywords: Keg trouble.
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:59:58 GMT
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland


	OK. Here is my problem. I have recently inheted a keg from my brother and I have no idea how to use it. (He didn't die, just moved and couldn't take it) The recipie on the beer kit I'm using states:

	Place the beer in the open fermentor until the head that develops when the yeast was stirred in dissipates and you can see the top of the beer. Then transfer the beer to a closed fermentor and put the airlock in place. Leave for a period of two weeks. The bottle and store for ten days."
(or something like that)

Can I put the beer directly into my keg?? It appears that it should be airtight, and does have a release valve.  Or should I seal the beer in a closed fermentorand not put it in the keg (with the sugar mixture) until it has sat in the airlocked fermentor?? 
The kit I'm using is a Muntara(i ??) Lager 

As well, should I do anything specific about temperatures. ie: Should I place the sealed fermentor in a cold room (approx. 10-15 deg C.) or should I keep it at 20 deg C.? 

Looking forward to your input. Post on this board, or mail me at my address. 

Hope everyone has a safe and happy holiday season.

-- 
Jonathan D. Butt (aka. Slammer)
jbutt@garfield.cs.mun.ca
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From: binkley@boulder.colorado.edu (Jon Binkley)
Subject: Xmas Beer
Reply-To: binkley@boulder.colorado.edu (Jon Binkley)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:29:00 GMT

I'm glad to see the explosion of xmas beers this year; makes me
hopeful that the good beer craze in the USA isn't just a passing
fad.

Anchor's is pretty darned good, but I agree it's overpriced.
At least this year you can get it by the 6 pack.  Last year
(around here anyway) you had to buy it in 12 packs for $17.
I don't like it quite as much as years past.  The spices
come through more in the smell than the taste.  It's got
a good roasted character to it, and that accounts for
what bitterness it has.  Am I alone in getting a licorice
aftertaste?

I think that Winterhook (from Red Hook in Seattle) is fantastic.
To me, this is what a brown ale should taste like all the time-
just show the brew kettle a picture of a hop cone and don't let
any other hops get near it!  Great sweetness.  The diacetyl
(butterscotch flavor) which is, IMO, at inappropriate levels in
the rest of their beers, is just right here.

My co-favorite this year is Sierra Nevada Celebration Ale.  YOW!
Not for the lupulophobic.  This definitely has more hop flavor
and aroma than any beer I've ever tried (except my own!).  It
does so without being excessively bitter, like Anchor Liberty
for example.  If, for the rest of my life, I was only allowed
to drink Winterhook and Celebration Ale, I would almost be
satisfied.

I haven't seen anything about Grant's mulled ale here, so I'll
give it a good plug.  Definitely the best of the spiced beers
this year.  Unfortunately, I didn't try their serving suggestion
(i.e., stick a red-hot poker from the fireplace in a mug-full
to get it to proper serving temp).  Next time.

Why did the bozos from Golden even bother with Coors Winterfest?
Why was I so stupid to think that, just maybe, just this once,
they'd use their considerable talent and superior facilities
to produce something halfway decent? I ended up dumping mine
in the sink to save room (and brain cells) for the better stuff.

Sam Adams Winter Lager isn't terribly impressive, but it's
a pretty decent bock, and worth the price of admission.

I tried a couple of locals on tap, but wasn't keeping terribly accurate
mental notes.  Igloo Ale from Boulder was pretty good, but after
about 1/2 pint was starting to get nausiatingly syrupy.  Much better
was the Xmas ale from Odell's in Ft. Collins, pleasantly spicy and
not too thick.

Jon Binkley

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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: NYC Pubs/Brewpubs
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:51:10 GMT

oh and for christmas ales Jimmy Armstrong's on West 57th street and 10th Ave is good place to be.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From:  ()
Subject: Re: 2 questions
Followup-To: alt.beer
Organization: Trinity College, Hartford, CT.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:16:13 GMT

In article <1gsn7vINN5mk@life.ai.mit.edu>, kenneths@tropicana.ai.mit.edu
(Kenneth J. Schneider) wrote:
> 
> 1) people are referring to old peculier referred to as sweet. i have limited
> breadth of knowledge, but it didn't really compare (in sweetness) to beer i  
> have found sweet (sam adams double bock, mcewan's scottish ale). my question
> is, is old peculier really sweet? i found it good, w/ a *slightly* bitter
> aftertaste. comments?
> 
> 2) what is chimay's?

I don't find Old Peculiar particularly sweet, though it a bit. It's a very
well balanced Yorkshire Ale. But who is the Old Peculiar of Masham???

Chimay is a Belgian Ale, one of the Trappiste products, very sweet and
heavy. A little too much for me, but I do enjoy an occasional one. I prefer
bitters and browns.
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From: pklauren@nmsu.edu (Patrick M Klaurens)
Subject: Re: Corona and Mexican Beer
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<Dec13.014319.66315@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>
	<1992Dec12.230901.1@acad.drake.edu>
	<exuptr.387.724351341@exu.ericsson.se> <1girs2INNi8g@menudo.uh.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:54:31 GMT

I drank a sixer of modelo this last summer, The Negro I found to have
wonderful chocolaty-malty taste ( if you consider choco-malto
wonderful) I consider it a sipping beer.  I daresay that it qualifies
as one of my favorite darks.  The only reason that I don't drink it
more often is that I don't think about it.  When I go to Mecico it is
usually in the summer and then Carona (there goes my credibility),
Tecate, and Dos Equis are great quenchers.  And yes I do drink mine
with salt and those little sour as hell Mexican limes.  This is
because of tradition as much as the fact that I find Mexican beers to
be a lot on the sweet side.
From: cowan@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (P.L. Cowan)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: malty-sweet beers
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:59:13 -0800
Organization: SSRL, Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lab
Distribution: alt
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In article <1992Dec15.286.5789@execnet>, "kevin mandoske" <kevin.mandoske@execnet.com> writes:
> Anyone recommend a beer which is on the sweet side and very malty.  I find 
> Grant's Scottish Ale to be along the lines of what I'm looking for.  I 
> would like to try others.
> 

Sweet, malty beers (stouts) are very popular in the Caribbean. One of the best
is Dragon Stout from Jamaica. There is a Danish (I believe) stout that is also 
very popular down there called Ceres (sp?). Haven't seen it in the US though.

- Paul - 
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From: 8635660@nessie.cc.wwu.edu (Jay Lonner)
Subject: Corona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Reply-To: 8635660@nessie.cc.wwu.edu
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:30 PST  

Corona -- as Wayne and Garth might say, "chick beer."

Personally, I don't see the sense in buying Mexican beers -- you can't drink
the water down there, what makes you think the beer is going to be any good? 
IMHO, if you're going to blow a wad on an import, buy a GOOD import, something
like Watney's or Mackson (sp) Triple Stout.  Or Samuel Smith's Winter Welcome,
damned nice stuff!
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From: gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane)
Subject: Re: malty-sweet beers
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:52:08 GMT

"kevin mandoske" <kevin.mandoske@execnet.com> writes:

>Anyone recommend a beer which is on the sweet side and very malty.  I find 
>Grant's Scottish Ale to be along the lines of what I'm looking for.  I 
>would like to try others.

Jeeze, don't tell Bert Grant that!  Actually, I would describe GSA as a
"hoppy" rather than a malty beer, but hey...  If you want to experience
a real Scottish ale try Douglas (which is brewed in Scotland for the
Belgian trade, where it is bottled, then shipped here).  Or try any of
the German doppelbocks (Kuminator, Salvator, Optimator) -- or the
Norwegian bock from Aass -- deep, dark and extraordinarily malty.  If
you're into sweet, try a sweet stout, Mackesson, from England.

You ought to also try some decent vienna/marzen/Oktoberfest style beers,
such as Paulaner or Spaten makes in Munich.  If you can get Thomas
Kemper or August Schell Oktoberfest, these are excellent American
versions.

--Jeff Frane

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From: murray@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Charlie Murray)
Subject: Re: Cerveza CORONA: Price comparison U.S.A <> Mexico.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:38:00 GMT
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina

In article <BzAoAn.2F2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, anelson@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Angela Marie Nelson) writes:
|> For all of those of you who enjoy the great taste of Mexican beer, I have a   
|> little piece of info which I know will interest you. 
|> This summer I was vacationing down in old Mexico and much too my surprise I found out that for 1 dollar = 3000 pesos you can buy 3 Corona beers, think about it here in the U.S. a six pack of the same bottles will cost $5 dollars on the 
|> average while in Mexico you can get 2 1/2 six pack for the same price.  Now you
|> know why so many mexicans spend their time filling their big  bellys with beer.
|> 
|> Just a little curiosity I thought would be nice to post.
|> 
|> Angie.
|> 
|> 

Most Mexicans don't make $30-40K a year either.  The exchange rate only
works for those outside the country.

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From: robl@macro.viewlogic.com (Rob Limbert)
Subject: Re: malty-sweet beers
Originator: robl@macro
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:42:59 GMT


In article <1992Dec15.286.5789@execnet>, "kevin mandoske" <kevin.mandoske@execnet.com> writes:
|> Anyone recommend a beer which is on the sweet side and very malty.  I find 
|> Grant's Scottish Ale to be along the lines of what I'm looking for.  I 
|> would like to try others.
|> 

   You might want to look at some of the 'authentic' Scottish brews (that
is, from Scotland). They tend to be quite malty, and somewhat less hoppy
than Grant's Scottish Ale. In the U.S., McEwan, Belhaven, and MacAndrew's
are reasonably easy to find, and all quite good.

   Another possibility is sweet Stout, of which Mackeson is the classic
example. It's rich and very smooth, with a distinct sweetness. Old Peculier,
though not a sweet Stout, has a similar flavor profile, with a rich, almost
butterscotch-y sweetness.

   Most Bocks, Doppelbocks, and Barley Wines are very malty. Many are quite
hoppy and/or fruity as well, which may or may not be what you're after. A
few that tend more toward the malty side are Sam Adams Double Bock, Young's
Old Nick (a Barley Wine), Anchor's Old Foghorn (if you can find it), and most 
of the German Doppelbocks (Celebrator, Salvator, among others). 

   If you're feeling ambitious, try some of the very strong Doppelbocks 
(Samichlaus or Kulminator) or Barley Wines (Thomas Hardy, especially when 
young). These have strength in the 12 to 14% range, and are intensely, 
almost overpoweringly, malty.

Rob
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From: jftheysm@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Jef)
Subject: Re: malty-sweet beers
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:22:49 GMT

My Favorite Sweet Things:

 Samichlaus 91'
 Douglas Scotch Ale
 Upper Canada True Bock
 Conners Stout (Surprise)
 Old Peculiar
 Maple Syrup,(Distilled)
 Vodka and Brown Sugar
 etc.

--Fej--
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From: dunl@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Dude Man)
Subject: Re: Weiss bier
Reply-To: dunl@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:11:45 GMT

Speaking of Weissbier s, anyone know if Paulaner's Hefe-Weissbier is 
imported into the USA?
I've seen their Oktoberfest and "Salvator" beers, but never the Hefe-Weiss.
-- 
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From: sawyer@utahep.uta.edu (Lee Sawyer)
Subject: How to serve Samichlaus
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington High Energy Physics Group
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:12:00 GMT

    For the first time, I was able to lay my hands on a six of Samichlaus.
I am having some fellow beer snobs over tonight for a tasting. The question is:
At what temperature should it be served ? Chilled like Chimay, or at room
temperature like Thomas Hardy ? 

    Also, the beer was sold out of the cooler, and I have kept it in the
refigerator. I want to give a bottle as a Christmas gift. With the previso that
no beer should under go drastic temperature changes, would it adversely effect
Smaichlaus to be warmed up to room temperature for several hours, then re-
refigerated ? Should have been refigerated in the first place ?


       ================                           
         Lee Sawyer                                  

         Dept of Physics                          
         Univ. of Texas                            
               at Arlington
From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: American beer all sucks
Date: 15 Dec 1992 13:36:53 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <15DEC92.00655299.0059@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> V5WA000 <V5WA@UNB.CA> writes:
>Do You idiots actually get drunk off that water you call beer?
>Here in Canada, Labatts rules.  I'm not being biased
>because it's Canadian.  It's just better.  I like to know when I'm drink
>drinking and it doesn't take 10 to 12 bottles before you get
>a buzz (like all American beer)
>
> Feel free to respond
>

Couldn't find anything better to talk about, eh?
How about any good brew pubs you've been to?
Or Any good imported beer, you've had?
But hey, lay off the beer nationalism, it's boring.

Ken

-- 
 Dr. Strangelove      "You know your having a bad day when the fifth
 U.Wisconsin Milwaukee    inning rolls around and they drag the warning
 Major: Political Science  track." -Mike Flanagan, pitcher Baltimore Orioles
 Why that Alias? From the Movie Dr. Strangelove.
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From: donovan@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Sean Donovan)
Subject: Re: Samichlaus '91
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:54:56 GMT

Samichlaus is brewed on Dec. 6th because that is (literally) St. Nicholas' day
(as in the feast day of the actual SAINT Nicholas).
As for 'nectar of the gods', I'd dispute that (but that's definitely just my
opinion).  I've only had it once, but it tasted to me like someone dumped a
shot of grain alcohol into my beer!  It was so heavy and cloying, I didn't like
it.  Again, just one person's opinion.

	-Sean.

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  Sean Donovan               donovan@titan.ucc.umass.edu  
  Department of Psychology
  University of Massachusetts
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From: esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Baker)
Subject: Re: Here's to good friends...
Keywords: This article printed on 100% recycled electrons
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:05:45 GMT

 I DO have a T-shirt saying "  BEER: It's not just for breakfast anymore."

******************************************************************************* All animals are strictly dry, they sinless live and swiftly die.
But sinful, Ginful, beer soaked man survives three score years and ten
                                                -origin unknown-
*******************************************************************************
Edwin Sharp
esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu

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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: Pete's Wicked Ale
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:19:26 GMT

dont know i am in brooklyn ny ,which is east. of Minnesota.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU ()
Subject: Are you a turtle
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 02:23:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

ARE YOU A TURTLE?

DO YOU LIKE TO DRINK BEER?

WOULD YOU LIKE TO KNOW A GAME THAT ALL OF YOUR FRIENDS WILL RAVE ABOUT?

IF SO, THEN CONTACT ME, TO4 AT cs151kx@lamar.csu.edu .

I'M ALSO LOOKING FOR NEW VERSIONS OF THE GAME, AND NUMBERS 10 THRU 20 OR BETTER.

IF YOUR A TURTLE YOU SHOULD KNOW HOW TO RESOPND TO THIS QUESTION.  BUT REMEMBER, NEVER GIVE THE PASWORD TO A NON-TURTLE SO PLEASE DON'T RESPOND ON A PUBLIC ACCESSABLE LINE.  SEND ME MAIL INSTEAD.

	ARE YOU A TURTLE?

	DO YOU KNOW THE TURTLE CHEER?

	THANKS FOR YOUR HELP,  TO4, (topher)

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From: jftheysm@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Jef)
Subject: Re: 5 favorite beers
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:09:15 GMT

My Favorite 5 are:

Guiness:  Good, reliable, available and dark as hell. Good to mix up with other peoples coke at partie and watch the fun.
WARNING: Guiness is bad for you.

Chimey Cinq Cents: Nectar of the gods, most like a beer that I drink.  Very cool bottle (comes corked) Very expensive and hard to find.

Samichlaus: A great peculiar. Even harder to find than Chimey though. Drink this one seated, at 15% it's stronger than most wine.

Douglas Scotch Ale: Similar tio Samichlaus only cheaper and more avasilable. only 8.5%

Chimey Premium: Better in the winter, a good stout in a cool bottle (corked once again!)

Cheers.

-Fej-
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From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: American beer all sucks
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:55:39 GMT

oh yes u will be reamed. listen i am the first one to admit labatts and molson
are excellent brews. but not all american beer blows. just most. and i do take 
offense. rolling rock is a damn good beer. an i like coors as well. 
bud blows yes. and just remember that there are plenty of imports that blow. 
me thinks you protest to much. 
and calling people u dont know idots is on the rude side. some of us think canadians 
are idiots eh.
so watch the name calling. u have a right to your opinion. but u dont have the right
to be nasty. 
so on that note have a pint and fly right.

---
Steve C. 

 ==> A wise man once told me - There ARE NO Wise Men !
                             - Just fools who think they are.
---------------------------------------------------------------		
 I understand you need someone to do work.
 I don't do work, but, I know this guy who does.
    -Vladimir Taltos
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From: crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ernest Crvich)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Grolsch...
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:26:02 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

In article <Bz9Kqz.MCC@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> holnessi@jeff-lab.QueensU.CA (Iain Holness) writes:
>In article <brewer.042k@meltdown.chi.il.us>, brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us (Mike Wilson) writes:
>
>> Personally, I don't care for Grolsch.  I DO like the  swing-top bottles,
>
>just that purpose. I find it a tad too bitter for my tastes, but that always

   Too bitter?  Wow.  I've never heard this adjective used to describe
Grolsch in my life.  Of course, everyone's taste buds are different, so I
won't argue.  I'd be interested to hear what your opinion of something like
Anchor Liberty Ale, Guinness Pub Draught, or Fuller's ESB is.  :)
   BTW, there are only a few other imports I've seen sporting the swing-top
bottles (all three produced by the same brewer) : Altenmunster, Oberdorfer
Weiss (both the dark and light variety).  I personally wish more of the
large-volume brews (Sheaf, Xingu, etc.) used these kinds of caps...there
*are* occasions when I don't feel like drinking 25 ounces of beer at a
sitting.  Plus they look neat.  :)
   I assume that many other countries (England and Germany for instance)
use these types of bottles more often.  I've seen British television
shows (such as Inspector Morse) in which the characters are once in a
while seen to pop open a bottle of bitter...most of the bottles having
the swing-top cap.  Is this indeed common in England (and other countries)?
Just curious.
   Later.
-- 
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crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu               Compression pushing to the red 
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From: dbeacham@willamette.edu (Daniel Beacham)
Subject: Re: A Real Beer
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:24:43 GMT

YES!!  Truth!!  Terminator is the way, the light!  Forgive all drinkers of
small beers, Lord..  They know not what they are missing in the GREAT
Northwest, particularly the greater Portland area.  I am an open minded
beer lover with critical taste buds and an omnivorous apetite for all things
malt and hoppy, but there really is no going back..

	Have one on me!    ...Have one anyway!

Daniel Beacham

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