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From: sgarstin@dream.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Stephen Garstin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: TOO many eggs!
Date: 27 Dec 92 12:13:24 EST
Organization: The Dreaming City BBS * (519)896-0863

        Hey, this may strike everyone as odd, but well phooey on you, but if you get a whole mess of eggs from your bet cockatiel, why not scramble some up?
        I cannot see the difference between them and some from an old chicken (apologies to those who keep chickens as pets :-)), I have a male cockatiel, but if I had an egg-laying female, I'd try to use my resources.
        My guess is they'd taste a little better than dumb old chicken, because you KNOW what your pet ate, whereas a chicken would eat anything.
        Or is there a taboo against eating your pets' eggs?

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From: hibanez@wam.umd.edu (guzman)
Subject: Incubating chicken eggs
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:09:20 GMT

hello...

I am interested in incubating chicken eggs.  I don't want to buy

an incubator or anything like that.  Is there a way where I can
use a light bulb or something?  Please respond directly to 
me at hibanez@wam.umd.edu

thanks.


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From: bes@bstorey.Gwinnett.COM (bstorey)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Full-spectrum *incandescent bulbs*
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 21:48:43 EST

I saw a post mentioning the use of full-spectrum incandescent bulbs with 
pet birds.  What are the advantages of these bulbs, and where can I get 
them.

Thanks in advance,
Bob Storey
From: judy <judy@nepac.ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: "Female" 'tiel Behavior?
Date: 23 Dec 1992 16:31:50 GMT
Organization: scripps inst. of oceanography
Distribution: world
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"Female" 'tiel Behavior?

I have a female who does the "do me" behavior you describe.... 
she's a run-of-the-mill breed, and the way you differentiate females from
males (that aren't albino, anyway) is to look at the underside of the
tail feathers.
Males have solid colored (grey usually) feathers, females have a striped
pattern.
Good luck -- oh yes, and in babies, they ALL have the same tail patterns,
so you
can't really tell until I believe 6-8 months.  Behavior should be a good
indicator,
though....
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From: "barbara turnbull" <barbara.turnbull@canrem.com>
Subject: new water "cup" for bird
Reply-To: "barbara turnbull" <barbara.turnbull@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:58:44 EST


Hi, Cheryl;

C > hour or so.  To those that would say, spend the extra time changing the
C > water dishes twice a day, I would say, why not instead spend the extra
C > time providing your birds with a mist bath or a bathing bowl?  It's
C > healthier than leaving them no alternative but to bathe in their
C > drinking water.
where do you put a bathing bowl?  i'd like to try it on my parrot,
but i'm not sure where to put it.


 Regards from... Barbara Turnbull (barbara.turnbull@canrem.com)

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From: wmack@en.ecn.purdue.edu (William J Mack)
Subject: Getting my quaker conure to talk
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 03:57:57 GMT

I have had my quaker conure for about one and a half years now and he squaks
very loud but has never uttered a word.  I have tried repeatedly to get it
to say hello by repeating this to him over and over and still no success even
after doing this for the past year.  Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.

-- 
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School of Electrical Engineering  fundamentals while I'm asking a fundamental
Purdue University                 question....then fine, I'll pretend to be one"
From: lecampbell@OCTAVO
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: TOO many eggs!
Date: 26 Dec 92 19:33:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: OCTAVO.00965AB3.27ED3020
Reply-To: lecampbell@OCTAVO

I've had great success in stopping female cockatiels from perpetual
egg laying by simply reducing the "daylight" hours they get.  I do
remove the eggs because any cracked of broken ones can be s source 
of contamination.  In my experience, removing the eggs seems to slow
the egg laying down, but each bird is probably different.  Of course
I make sure these females are getting a calcium supplement (and 
vitamin D if they are not getting exposure to sunlight, as in the
winter.  Cacium without vitamin D is virtually useless.  The oil
birds use to groom with breaks down into vitamin D in the presence
of sunlight.  No sunlight, since it is too cold to put them out here
in the winter, means no vitamin D production.)

Laura (cold in northern California)
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From: bgt@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (barbara.tongue)
Subject: Re: bathing bowl/kitchen sink
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 13:47:37 GMT
Summary: where do you folks get your birdies????

In article <18250@autodesk.COM> davec@Autodesk.COM (Dave Cooper) writes:
->Bird Lovers,
->
->Here in San Francisco, my budgies absolutely love a terracotta dish filled
->with water that can plants in it, like parsley, lettuce, grass or any
->greens. They prefer that to plain water. However, one bird loves water to
->fall on him: he tries to catch the water with his beak --- evidently loving
->every minute of it, as he puffs his feathers out in a very relaxed attitude.

let me tell you folks, i'm green with envy at how all your birdies love
water!!  my yellow collared destructo macaw, angus, figured that water is
some strange alien bent on attacking him whenever possible (throwing him
into the shower might have had something to do with this.  :-)  ).
put angus in the sink, run a gentle tropical waterfall, and see the birdie
attempt to glare you into roasted cinders and jump out.  never saw the
like before.

my mom's african grey bartina will bathe in her water tubberware (get
it?  tub?  tupperware?  tubberware??   hee hee hee!!!!  hello?  hello?)
in the kitchen.  when this natural disaster occurs, my mom or i will
move the kitchen table and chairs away so they don't get soaked, and will
mop up the floor afterwards.  i mean, it is *bartina's* kitchen; she just
lets us eat there every week or so.

angus *hates* bathing in the sink, or the shower, or my coffee cup (he
does enjoy, however, sticking his beak/head/neck/upper body into my
water glass (love that time when there was ice in it) and flinging the
water towards my computer.  so i'd just like all of you to know that 
i am extremely jealous of your bathing birdies (get it?  beauties?
birdies?  oh i slay me!!!) and it will take years of intensive
therapy to overcome this.  so there.  :-)
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:02:06 -0500 
From: "Robert O. Frasca" <rf2c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Canary HELP !


I recently bought a female canary to mate with my male.  I have several
questions, and I was wondering if anyone might know the anwers.  Is it
normal for them to fight and if so to what extent?  My birds seem to
fight in the morning and the late evening.  It usually seems to be over
food or the prime sleeping spot on the top perch.  I solved the fighting
over the perch by putting two perches up top, but they still fight over
their food.  I seperated them once and soon found blood in both their
droppings.  I talked with the vet and she told me they were stressed.  I
suppose I should not have separated them??? Has anyone seen this sort of
behavior with canaries? Does anyone have any advise or word of wisdom?
Your help would be appreciated.

Regards,

Rob Frasca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: feathers@eskimo.com (Cheryl)
Subject: Re: bathing bowl/kitchen sink
Organization: <<< ESKIMO NORTH (206)-FOR-EVER >>>
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 18:26:59 GMT

In article <199230.3220.2560@dosgate>, "rodney jones"
<rodney.jones@canrem.com> writes:
>Hello:
>
>I just wanted to mention to everyone that the best bathing area for a
>small to medium size parrot seems to be the kitchen sink. By leaving
the
>warm water running in a gentle stream, I have found that most birds
will
>let their curiosity lead them to what in the wild would be a small,
>natural waterfall and pool. The nice part is that the sink is very easy
>to clean should your bird decide to foul its bathing area.
>
>Hope this helps someone.
>Rodney Jones
   
   No *kidding* they like the kitchen sink!  This is a decidedly mixed
blessing when you're trying to wash dishes and a determined conure is
hell-bent on sliding down your arm and jumping in with the dishes!  Most
of mine also love to hold their heads underneath the stream of water,
totally soaking themselves.  The Sink Scenario wouldn't be complete
without then, once they're totally soaked and sodden, getting back up on
ME and shaking vigorously, soaking me in the process.  This isn't fair;
I still have four more months to go till my Annual Bath!
-- 
     Cheryl
     feathers@eskimo.com
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From: prkenne@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP)
Subject: Re: Help Save Norm!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 30 Dec 1992 09:32 EST  

In article <C02oAG.4K9@sherpa.UUCP>, rac@sherpa.UUCP (Roger Cornelius) writes...
>In article <jensen.725661543@graphite10>, jensen@rtsg.mot.com (James D. Jensen) writes:
> 
>[...]
>> Last night while he was in his play area I bought for him,  she started
>> talking to him.  He saw me in the bathroom taking my contacts out (about
>> 15 feet away) and flew/ran over to me.  This didn't make my girlfriend
>> too happy.  Other cases like this happen a lot too.  Now she wants me to
>> get rid of him.
> 
>My suggestion is to keep the bird and get rid of the girlfriend.  She
>obviously has a problem.

I wouldn't go <that> far.  But I must say, it sounds to me like your 
girlfriend really needs a life if she has the time and energy to be jealous 
of a bird.  My bird followed me religiously (until we got a puppy/now it's 
only when the coast is clear) and my husband finds it amusing not 
threatening.  Jeez!



            " Learn from the mistakes of others
             you can never live long enough to
             make them all yourself"

                                *Carol*
From: bih@mowgli.East.Sun.COM (Bennet Ih - Sun BOS Hardware)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: TOO many eggs!
Date: 23 Dec 1992 15:43:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc. - BDC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bih@mowgli.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: mowgli.east.sun.com

Hi!  I have had similiar problems with a female cockatiel-she periodically becomes an
egg laying machine!  In addition to providing a calcium supplement, you might consider 
reducing the number of hours of light she receives...You may have to go down to only eight 
hours of light per day!   While cockatiels tend to breed year round, reducing the number of 
hours of light may stop her from laying.  In addition, while handling the bird, try not to 
pet  her on her back too much-this could provide a stimulus for her to lay...  Finally, do 
not remove the eggs she has already laid(?), as she may try to lay more to get a full
clutch.  My cockatiel, "Frannie", actually sat on her eggs for about 35 days before abandoning
them.  Good Luck!  Let me know how it works out, or if you hear any other good suggestions!!

Regina

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From: "rodney jones" <rodney.jones@canrem.com>
Subject: bathing bowl/kitchen sink
Reply-To: "rodney jones" <rodney.jones@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:51:18 EST

Hello:

I just wanted to mention to everyone that the best bathing area for a
small to medium size parrot seems to be the kitchen sink. By leaving the
warm water running in a gentle stream, I have found that most birds will
let their curiosity lead them to what in the wild would be a small,
natural waterfall and pool. The nice part is that the sink is very easy
to clean should your bird decide to foul its bathing area.

Hope this helps someone.
Rodney Jones

rodney.jones@canrem.com
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: rac@sherpa.UUCP (Roger Cornelius)
Subject: Re: Help Save Norm!!!
Organization: Roger's House; Gulfport, Fl
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:35:04 GMT

In article <jensen.725661543@graphite10>, jensen@rtsg.mot.com (James D. Jensen) writes:

[...]
> Last night while he was in his play area I bought for him,  she started
> talking to him.  He saw me in the bathroom taking my contacts out (about
> 15 feet away) and flew/ran over to me.  This didn't make my girlfriend
> too happy.  Other cases like this happen a lot too.  Now she wants me to
> get rid of him.

My suggestion is to keep the bird and get rid of the girlfriend.  She
obviously has a problem.

:-)
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From: bmartino@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bob Martino)
Subject: Re: "Normal" male cockatiel behavior?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:44:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.055257.28688@ryptyde.cts.com> scott@ryptyde.cts.com (Scot
t McClure) writes:
>
>Hi all,
>
>    We've got a pair of cockatiels, one 2 year old female, and a
>1 year old male.  The male seems to have taken a liking to the female,
>and chases her around the house.  It all seems normal enough up to this
>point.  Once he corners her, he sort of squats down, spreads his wings
>slightly to the sides, stretches his neck forward, and makes a kissing
>sound.  Actually, it is something between kissing and barking.
>The female just runs away, but he waddles after her.
>    I suspect that he picked up the "kissing" sound from my wife,
>who makes that sound when she pets him.  Has my wife "corrupted" our
>birds behavior?  Oh yeah, I almost forgot:  in addition to the
>kissing sound, he also says "hi! hi little bird!" when chasing her.
>I'm fairly sure that the last part isn't normal.  8-)
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, of _COURSE_ it isn't normal!
Cocaktiels in the wild don't speak English!!
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From: msd@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Michael Daitzman x3262)
Subject: Bird 4 Sale
Keywords: macaw
Reply-To: msd@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Michael Daitzman x3262)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 22:23:35 GMT


A friend of mine owns a bird shop.  He has a hand raised blue and gold
which he has had in the shop for about 2.5 years.  Problem is, he is
unwilling to sell "Baby Max" to someone who doesn't know what they are
getting into (in other words, a bird person.)  He has turned down
several offers because of this.

The price he is asking is very low (it includes an appropriately large
cage,) and he is definitely not going to make a profit (hence I feel ok
posting this here,) in fact, I am quite certain he will be losing money.

Max is a real sweetheart.  Tame, talking, and full of personality.  If
I was home more, I would have already purchased!

In any event, if you are interested,  please send me email and I will
tell you how to get in touch with them.

Michael.
msd@hq.ileaf.com
From: wolf@doppel.first.gmd.de (Wolfgang Koehler)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Help: budgie's strange behaviour
Date: 31 Dec 92 12:05:46 GMT
Reply-To: wolf@first.gmd.de
Organization: GMD-FIRST, Berlin


Our four years old tame budgie ( a female ) shows a strange behaviour recently.
Sometimes when she is sitting on our hand or on her common places at the window
she twitches spontaneously with her wings. Is she only nervous or has she a 
serious disease ? She lives in our flat as a member of family since four years
and nothing important has changed.
It looks as she is scared of something but we don't know what it could be.
 
By the way, she is the same budgie we posted a query with respect of laying 
eggs some time ago. Since some months she has stopped this without any measures
by us. Neither we gave her any medicine nor we took away her nistbox.
So we are very happy with this result. 
Now she still usually sleeps in her box and is sexually active as before.

Happy New Year to all bird lovers !

wolf  

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From: demetri@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Demetrius Owens)
Subject: cockatiel mating
Organization: OSU Advanced Computing Center for the Arts and Design
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:02:42 GMT
Om: demetri@cgrg.ohio-state.edu 

 I wrote about a month ago asking about my "chauvanist" cockatiel, Ricky,
who was not helping Boyd with the eggs.  For a while, Boyd sat on the eggs
day and night, and later, Ricky started going into the box, both with and
without her.  He seemed "nervous", often tussling about in there, and
junping out of the box every time I opened the door to the room they are
in.  The end result was that 3 of the 4 eggs were broken...the remaining
one being infertile.  Ricky has now started preening Boyd for the first
time and I think he is gradually figuring this mating/egg sitting thing
out.  However, Ricky used to be a real sweetie--whistling, talking &
bobbing his head.  Now he refuses to be touched and even bites me when I
put food in the dish.  I understand that behavior can change when they are
"nesting", but will it ever change back.  If they are going to be strictly
breeders from now on, I'm considering finding them a new home.  Those of
you with hand fed pets who have raised clutches, do they ever regain their
pet potential?

                                   Renee 
From: Olga.Johnson@bird.com (Olga Johnson)
Sender: FredMail@bird.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: "NORMAL" MALE COCKATIEL B
Date: 30 Dec 92  06:25:07 EST

> I suspect that he picked up the "kissing" sound from my wife,
>who makes that sound when she pets him.  Has my wife "corrupted" our
>birds behavior?  Oh yeah, I almost forgot:  in addition to the
>kissing sound, he also says "hi! hi little bird!" when chasing her.
>I'm fairly sure that the last part isn't normal.  8-)

We have a similar problem. Our male (Miki) is a year old. He chases the
female (Athena) around saying "Gimme Kiss - (kissing sound) - gimme kiss
- (kissing sound)". She is 7 months old and has no desire to be close to
him. She prefers to rub against her papa's hand.... I'm sure you
wouldn't consider this normal behavior in the wild, but with handfed
pets, I guess that anything is normal to them.

 * SLMR 2.1a * Always tell her she is beautiful, especially if she is no

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From: wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand)
Subject: Re: Help Save Norm!!!
Reply-To: motcid!wiegand@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:45:16 GMT

jensen@rtsg.mot.com (James D. Jensen) writes:

>I have a 3-4 month old parakeet, who has become very attached to me.
>Unfortunately, he doesn't seem to like my girlfriend.  He was hand-fed
>and is very tame, always coming to the front of the cage when he sees
>me in the morning.  He can't seem to get enough attention from me.

>The problem is, he often bites my girlfriend, and even left a mark on
>her nose the other day.  When I first got him, she was real busy and so 
>he seems to have bonded with me.

>Last night while he was in his play area I bought for him,  she started
>talking to him.  He saw me in the bathroom taking my contacts out (about
>15 feet away) and flew/ran over to me.  This didn't make my girlfriend
>too happy.  Other cases like this happen a lot too.  Now she wants me to
>get rid of him.

>I know it may be hopeless, but is there anyway to get a bird to like
>someone else.  I have become attached to him, and I would hate to get
>rid of him, but if she is going to be in a bad mood because of him
>everytime she is over, I may have to get rid of him.  I know he would
>miss me as well.  Hopefully I can stall for awhile and they will get
>along.

>I don't think she would mind too much except that my chinchillas seem
>to like me better also.  That is part of the reason I got the bird, so
>she would have a pet that is hers!  This didn't work out too good.

With training you should be able to get it to stop biteing, but it
might always like you better.

Your girlfriend would need to work with the bird when you aren't there.
Teach it the "up" command so that it climbs onto your hand on command.
This gives you control over the bird.

Very important - never pick up the bird yourself after it bites your
girlfriend. It will learn that biting her will get you to pick it up,
which is what it wants. When it bites have your girlfriend put it back
in its cage.

If you want a pet that's bonded to your girlfriend then she has to be
the main handler for that pet. As long as you are the one taking care
of the pet is isn't going to bond to her.

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From: cdt@zoo.bt.co.uk (Clive Dennett-Thorpe)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Bird Personalities
Date: 31 Dec 92 17:28:49 GMT
Reply-To: cdt@zoo.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Laboratories

A few weeks ago I wrote a message about my pet budgies, Stephen, Leopold, Molly, and Gertie. Leopold and Stephen are interested in each other and ignore the other birds. Leo and Stephen have passed every test we have put to them: they don't bite as hard as the girls do, they display sexual behaviour ( again, to each other only) and their ceres are still blue. They seem to be males any way you look at it. We have accepted the situation but wonder if there are other cases of males kept in large groups with f



emales who ignore the girls and bond with other. 



 Chirp!!



 Clive D-T.