From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: Degrees of racism (was Re: Caucasians don't understand)
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 19:46:44 GMT

In article <23614@alice.att.com> jj@alice.UUCP (jj, curmudgeon and clueless old white boy) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.001915.28684@news.acns.nwu.edu> dowdy@tochtli.biochem.nwu.edu (Dowdy Jackson) writes:
>>In article <23604@alice.att.com> jj@alice.UUCP (jj,  curmudgeon and clueless old white boy) writes:
>>I am just stating FACTS !!! If the facts make you think that I am saying
>>whites are evil then that's your problem. I will never say that because
>>I don't beleive that.
>You say it's a fact that there is no point in trying to educate whites.
>That is straightforward.  You are saying, directly and unmistakably,
>that whites are evil, incapable of learning, and that you have
>given up on them, I suppose until you can push them off the
>face of the planet.  Your "fact" is not only a lie, it's a racist
>lie that leads directly to more racism and to race war.  
>
>
>>>Tarring me,
>>>and "all whites" for what some individual has done, will ONLY
>>>CAUSE MORE HATRED.  THERE CAN BE NO OTHER OUTCOME.  Until you
>>>stop doing that, I'm going to assume that's what you want.
>
>>When I walk into a classroom the white students aren't thinking
>>that I am just as qualified as they are. Instead they are thinking that
>>I am taking the space of a more qualified white person becuase of
>>affirmative action.
>Precisely, THOSE individuals (each and every one you insult by
>telling me what they assume without your factually knowing it,
>showing again your forthright anti-white racism) may have
>this idea.
>
>You've now just made enemies of all, sympathetic, ignorant, and racist
>alike.  You have just created the worst possible situation.

  Seems pretty easy to make enemies with you.  You seem incapable
  of being friends with people who dare to disagree with you.
>
>>When I was stopped by the cops in LA, they stopped
>>me and my friends becuase we were blacks in a white area after dark.
>Well, golly, gee, that's happened to me in New Providence
>because I had a black research scientist who'd lived in the area
>for 20 years in the car.  What's that prove?

  Golly, gee, did you ask that Black research scientist what he felt?
>
>When you hold me, as you do, responsible for their actions, you deliberately,
>I think, out of a desire for sheer vengence, put me in a hopeless position,

  Since when do you think you're responsible for everything under the sun?
  You name doesn't happen to be God does it?  Nobody sane would hold you
  responsible for those cops, for Pete's sake.  Unless you've developed
  this mind-control system and implanted them into the cop's brains...
>
>Given that you've already told us what I think before
>I enter the room, with your statement that brand all whites
>as sub-human, you cannot possibly expect me to believe that
>you have any idea what I think.

  Nope we sure are puzzled about how you think.
>
>I realize it, but you outright that I don't. That's why "all" is the point,
>and "tarring" me is the point.  You treat whites as sub-human oppressors
>who you feel will never do any better, and in that, you ensure your
>own private hell, forever.

  No one is tarring you.  Dowdy talked about a specific group of cops
  and a specific group of students.  Unless you happened to be one of
  the cops or students, I cannot see how he was talking about you.
  Unless everytime someone makes a statement it refers to YOU.

  Okay, how does this one go?  Men do not like to change poopy diapers.
  Am I tarring you?  Do you deny that you're a man?
>
>Jackson, why do you post here?  Like Clare has pointed out, whites
>don't count here, Chinese don't count here, so why do you think
>blacks count? Of course, if Clare is honest, she'll have to ignore
>your existance like she claims to ignore all others who don't
>fit her idea of what is racially correct.

  Anyone can post here, Dingbat!  And since when have I ignored you?
  Get a grip.  Just be glad you're not Chinese and have to read
  the twenty-thousand anti Chinese-cu postings every day.  What
  will you do if a "Dwight Joe" clone who happens to hate White-cu
  were to pop up here?  Go frothing at the mouth all day long?
  Really, you read the worst into everyone here.  You seem to have
  this parser that takes any post as input (as long as the keyword
  white exists) and turn it into "you're tarring whites as evil
  and sub-human."

  Besides, who posts here more, you or Dowdy?

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  I notice you've stopped saying No to Bush and Clinton.  See how much
  attention I pay to you???