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From: lezz@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Lezz Giles)
Subject: Re: Why I am glad I know perl
Reply-To: lezz@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com (Lezz Giles)
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:21:12 GMT

In article <Bvvp4C.4u1@unix.amherst.edu>, twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
|>In article <francis.718520754@monod> francis@monod.Biol.McGill.CA (Francis Ouellette) writes:
|>
|>>and a system administrator should alias is rm to 'rm -i' anyways,
|>>always!
|>
|>As it was pointed out to me the last time I said this :-), a good
|>system administrator should never do this.  It is always questionable
|>whether it's good to get into the habit of thinking a standard command
|>behaves differently than it really does, but I don't think there's any
|>benefit when this is applied to "rm."  If you move to a different
|>computer, or get tossed into a shell without aliasing (e.g. the Bourne
|>shell), you're a duck out of luck when you do "rm irreplacable-file".
|>
|>Aliasing something else, such as "del", to "rm -i", is another matter
|>entirely.

Of course, when _I_ was a system administrator I made sure that I didn't
use any of these fancy shells that could do all sorts of terrible things
to the commands I typed in - I used straight, simple Bourne shell and I
read every command twice before I hit return!  I worked with the principal
(which Tim above seems to echo) that if you're doing root work then you
should use basic simple unadulterated Unix with no frills - and you should
make sure that it is a subset of Unix that doesn't change from system to
system (I tended to stick with sh and vi, even though in my normal user
account I am a total ksh/emacs convert).

Of course, now that perl has come along it suddenly fits into the category
of part of "a subset of Unix that doesn't change from system to system", which
gives us another reason to be thankful for perl.

Lezz
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: jbone@manufing.dell.com (Jeff Bone)
Subject: Re: OOP?
Organization: Dell Computer Co
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:53:14 GMT

Tom Christiansen <tchrist@convex.COM> writes:
>From the keyboard of imp@solbourne.com (Warner Losh):
>
>According to my dim understanding of these matters, perl5 might contain
>objects.  I believe Larry's current thinking is that an object is a
>pointer plus a package, and the package will contain the methods for that
>object.
>

I think this is a Really Good Idea(tm).  One suggestion --- I think some
thought should be given to an object storage manager, perhaps based on
the dbm family, which would swap objects into and out of a cache on
demand from a persistant database.  Reasoning:  managing multipackage
perl is hard enough as is, objects are going to compound the problem
immensely.  I don't think anybody really wants to manage a 1000-object
ooperl project w/o a DB of some sort.  If the interpreter includes hooks
for this and has a way to "raise" some kind of "object not found in local
db" error, the extension to a true DOMF is easy.

Another thought:  arbitrary object properties or attributes that are
assignable might be nice.  That is, if I have object foo:

   foo.barprop = 12

should set foo.barprop is foo has a barprop attribute.

   foo.createprop("barprop")

Would do the obvious.

Security is a concern.  How would you handle object access?  Is anybody
allowed to invoke any method or (in my proposed model) set any attribute?
This problem gets ugly fast.

Also, maybe time to think about byte compilation of individual chunks of
code, etc., sans interpreter.  This would make non-source distribution of
ooperl objects possible.


Just some random, wild ideas.  



jb



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------------------------------------------------------- jbone@dell.com --
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: zh@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de. (Z. Horvat)
Subject: Perl Prg as deamon?
Reply-To: zh@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de.
Organization: Rechenzentrum Universitaet Konstanz
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:37:40 GMT

Is it possible to make a Perl program running as a deamon? I mean detaching from the controlling terminal etc etc. I have no experience how to code this in "C", so i'm far from being able to do it in perl. Maybe someone could send me a code example or point me to a free available perl script which realizes this.

Thanks in advance,



---------------------------------------------------
SYS337654 Could not locate coffee - Operator halted 
---------------------------------------------------

Z. Horvat
Rechenzentrum Universitaet Konstanz
++49-7531-88-2405

zh@nike.rz.uni-konstanz.de
rzhorv@nyx.uni-konstanz.de

Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Perl passwd script for Sun's adjunct passwd files?
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 00:30:29 GMT


I haven't heard of it being done, but it doesn't seem like it would
be especially hard.

Don't know if it's common knowledge, but I spent a lot of time
figuring out the lockfile for the shadow password file.  It's
/etc/security/ptmpa.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
       I believe we are on an irreversible trend toward more freedom and
                       democracy - but that could change
From: kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: Visual
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:52:56 GMT
	<ASHERMAN.92Oct9144342@piranha.fmrco.com>
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: asherman@fmrco.com's message of 9 Oct 92 19:43:42 GMT

>>>>> On 9 Oct 92 19:43:42 GMT, asherman@fmrco.com (Aaron Sherman) said:
>>>>> pomeranz@irving.nas.nasa.gov (Hal R. Pomeranz) said:

pomeranz> After seeing Larry again at the last Bay LISA meeting, I am
pomeranz> confirmed in my opinion that Larry looks a lot like "Weird Al"
pomeranz> with short, straight hair.  My apologies to Larry, "Weird Al",
pomeranz> and anybody else who may be offended by this opinion.

Aaron> Have you ever noticed how you never see Larry Wall and Weird Al
Aaron> in the same place at the same time (same 4D coords for you
Aaron> extra-D'rs).

Hmm. I smell a conspiracy. Has anyone ever heard LW sing, can he hold a
tune? If he can't, then they're probably the same person. ;-)

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An INK-LING?  Sure -- TAKE one!!  Did you BUY any COMMUNIST UNIFORMS??
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: chare@unilabs.uucp (Chris Hare)
Subject: Re: Perl and sco unix (??)
Keywords: sco unix config.sh
Organization: UniLabs Research Group
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 11:27:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.170939.17406@elegant.com> rstory@elegant.com (Robert Story) writes:
>
>Last week I posted a query with regerd to getting perl configured and 
>running for SCO UNIX 3.2.2.
>
>Chris Hare <chare@unilabs.unilabs> sent me his config.sh for ODT.  By
>using this as a basis I was able to get perl up and running and passing
>the 'make test' suite.
Glad to help Robert.  BTW, if anyone wants to contact me directly, you can
get hold of me via e-mail at chare@choreo.ca, or chare@unilabs.org.


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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: fritz@Cadence.COM (Frederick Staats)
Subject: Compiling problems... SunOS 4.1.2...
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:36:45 GMT

I was having problems building perl under standard SunOS 4.1.2.  The
program would core dump before finishing the first test.  After
rebuilding it with the standard options (instead of the sunos4_0_2
options) it continued to do the same thing.  However when I build it
without optimization or with -O2 it builds and passes all the tests.
I got lots of mail from people saying that They had no problems
building under SunOS 4.1.2 using the standard optimizer.  Don't know
why only I had the problems but I hope this helps someone else.
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: xdwj@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Darrell Johns)
Subject: Window input using cterm.
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:12:48 GMT

I am looking for a program written in perl using cterm as the curses
interface that will open a window, allow the user to type in that window
and when finished read the window.  I am looking for something like the
edit function in cterm but in a multiline form and thought I'd see if
anyone else has written something like that already before I try to write
it.

Thank you for your time,
Darrell.
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl,comp.os.os2.apps
From: balke@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Alexander A. Balke)
Subject: perl for OS/2
Followup-To: balke@cs.ucla.edu
Keywords: perl,OS/2
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 19:02:59 GMT

I am trying to find a version of PERL for OS/2 which was compiled using 
the large memory model.  Any help would be appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: sfy@koel.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU (Shane Youl)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: SUMMARY: Sorting associative arrays based on the value
Date: 13 Oct 92 02:15:19 GMT
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)

sfy@koel.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU (Shane Youl) writes:

>This may be a FAQ, but then again...

>I have an associative array $Table{$Name} = $Number which I would like
>to sort by $Number. I have been converting the associative array into an
>ordinary two-d array and using the SUBROUTINE option to sort, but I
>thought that there might be a more elegant solution.

Mike Stok <mike@meiko.com> writes:

>you can say something like

>foreach $key (sort {$Table{$a} <=> $Table{$b};} keys %Table)
>{
>  ....
>}

Thanks to those who responded -
Christopher Davis <ckd@eff.org>
Mike Stok <mike@meiko.com>
weingart@inf.ethz.ch
asherman@fmrco.com (Aaron Sherman)
przemek@rrdstrad.nist.gov (Przemek Klosowski)
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Subject: Re: How to read keyboard without blocking ?
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:30:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.233512.23465@unixg.ubc.ca> admerlev@cipy.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de writes:
>can anybody help me on how I can read the keyboard (/dev/tty)
>in a nonblocking fashion ?
>I tried read, sysread, getc... but they all wait for 
>input. I want the program to continue when no key was pressed.

It can't be done.

Ok, that's a lie.  It *can* be done, but you have to read the FAQ posting
first.

Tom

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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: brennan@alc.com (Tom Brennan)
Subject: associative arrays with variable numbers of fields
Organization: Ascent Logic Corporation, San Jose, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:54:09 GMT

I have a text file of the following format:

key_value	attribute1	attribute2
key_value	attribute1
key_value	attribute3
key_value	attribute4	attribute5	attribute6

I would like to read this file into an associative array, but 
as you can see, there are variable numbers of attribute fields.
Would this be adviseable? 

I would like to do processing to answer questions like how many 
occurances of attribute3 occur in this file. Also, I would like
do processing which would find which attributes are associated with
a given key value.

The problem is that I'm not sure when I've reached the end of the
record when I'm walking down the attribute lists since there are
not a fixed number of them.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Tom
From: lwall@netlabs.com (Larry Wall)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: reading multiple line records efficiently
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:18:29 GMT
Organization: NetLabs, Inc.

In article <5Z547+8fr@ssc.gov> jp@ssc.gov (John Palkovic) writes:
: I have a largish input file that comes in 42 line chunks. Typically
: I have 4000 - 15000 input records.  Each line is a number with
: leading whitespace. (I'll append an example record).
: 
: I want to read each line of each chunk into an array and then do
: something with the array. Each 42nd+1 line is the same: ' 36'.
: Unfortunately, it is possible for some of the other lines to be
: that same string, so I can't set $/ to read the records. :-( I came
: up with the following to read the file chunks into the array:
: 
:     $lines = 42;
:     sub snarf_lines {
: 	$record='';
: 	while(<>){
: 	    last if ($. % $lines) == 0;
: 	    $record .= $_;
: 	}
: 	@hist = split("\n",$record);
: 	$_;
:     }
: 
: Is there a more efficient way to do this?

Probably.  You might try something like:

    eval "sub snarf_lines { @hist = (" .
	    "scalar <>," x 42 .
	");}"

By the way, it's possible to use $/, but you just have to check
to see that you actually got 42 lines, and go back for more if not.
Sometimes this is a win, if the exception is sufficiently exceptional.

Larry
From: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Re: Malformed cmd links
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:39:08 GMT
Reply-To: tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen)
Organization: Convex Computer Corporation, Colorado Springs, CO
Originator: tchrist@pixel.convex.com
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

From the keyboard of bill@ksr.com (Bill Mann):
:There have been several complaints during the past few months about
:the warning message 'Malformed cmd links'.  This message occurs when
:redefining a subroutine where the old definition includes the 'return'
:statement.  This problem first appears in 4.035.
:
:As I read the code, there is no real bug, just a spurious warning in
:this case.  An otherwise-unused variable is not being initialized
:properly.  The following patch fixes the problem for me:

Well, I can make the warning go away, but plum and pcops still both dump
core at 4.035; maybe it's my coding style. :-) It seems to have something
to do with using eval/die in nested catch/throw constructs.  Larry promises
it'll at least be DIFFERENT in perl5, because the interals of that
entire mechanism will be quite different.

--tom
-- 
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    In general, if you think something isn't in Perl, try it out, because it
    usually is.  :-)
            --Larry Wall in <1991Jul31.174523.9447@netlabs.com>
Xref: sparky comp.lang.perl:6518 comp.lang.tcl:1560
From: johnw@bnd2.bnd.oz.au (John Warburton)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: Is there a better way to format a string?
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:09:58 GMT
Organization: B&D Doors, Sydney, NSW, Australia

Hello perl people,

I would like to know if there is an easier way to format
a string to be saved as a variable than this:

format analysis =
@<<<<    @<<<<   @<<<<  @<<<< @<<<<
$total,$bottom,$middle,$top,$sptop
.

is how I would like the string to look.
I extract the variables, but to put them into a string, I
do the following:

  open(STRING,"> /usr/tmp/string");
  select(STRING);
  $~='analysis';
  write;
  close(STRING);
  select(STDOUT);
  open(STRING,"/usr/tmp/string");
  $sanalysis=<STRING>;
  chop($sanalysis);
  close(STRING);
  unlink "/usr/tmp/string";

just to get the variable $sanalysis.

This seems a bit over the top to me, but I can't seem to 
think of a better way. Can anyone help?

Thanks 

John
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM (Tom Limoncelli)
Subject: last logged in
Organization: Mentor Graphics -- IC Group
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 21:04:27 GMT

Is there a portable way to find out when a person was last logged in?
(at least on BSD-derived systems like SunOS, Ultrix, etc.)

The contents of /usr/local/lib/perl/lastlog.ph on my system is "1;".

Basically, I'm trying to write a program that will warn me if a user
hasn't used the system in the last x days.  I can't turn on password
aging because our heterogeneous (goddess, I hate that word) environment
includes too many machines that don't support such a feature.

Tom

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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: chare@unilabs.uucp (Chris Hare)
Subject: Problem with associative arrays
Organization: UniLabs Research Group
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:46:55 GMT

Greetings:

Perl 4.035 here on a Motorola 8000 VME UNIX system.

I am trying to write a generic error handling routine which retrieves an
error message depending upon the error code provided to the subroutine.

I check to see if the array has been loaded, and if not, fill it with the
information contained in the file which has the information.

My problem is that even though the entry is defined in the array, I don't
get the error message, but the "Unknown error code" message.

What am I doing wrong?

My data file looks like this:

GL-001:this is a test
GL-100:You may only chose from the options provided.
GL-100:arg1 is not a valid response.

This is the script.  It isn't the best perl code in the world, but I tend
to be "imprecise" when I first write a script and become more "precise"
during debugging and optimization.

$configDir = ".";
sub errorMsg
   {
   local( $msgNo ) = @_;
   if ( ! $errorMsgLoaded )
	  {
      open( errorFile, "$configDir/errors" ) || die $!;
      while (<errorFile>)
		 {
		 chop;
		 ( $msgID, $msgText ) = split(/:/);
		 printf ">$msgID<\n$msgText\n";
         if ( defined( $errorMsgText{'$msgID'} ))
			{
			printf "added text to $msgID\n";
		    $errorMsgText{"$msgID"} = "$errorMsgText{'$msgID'}\n$msgText";
			}
		 else
			{
		    $errorMsgText{"$msgID"} = "$msgText";
			}
		 }
	  $errorMsgLoaded++;
	  }

   printf "\007*** ERROR   (msg=$msgNo) \n";
   if ( defined( $errorMsgText{'$msgNo'} ) )
	  {
      printf "$errorMsgText{'$msgNo'}\n" ;
	  }
   else
	  {
      printf "Unknown Error Code: $msgNo\n";
	  }
   #&HitReturn;
   }
1;

&errorMsg("GL-100");

Thanks for the help.  Sorry if this is a FAQ, but it is more likely that
the brain cells which contain this information haven't realized that its
time to get up yet!

Regards
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Just a mild-mannered consultant by day ....
From: cjross@testament.bbn.com (Chris Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
Subject: h2ph oops in pl4.035, + fix
Date: 7 Oct 1992 04:29:11 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: cjross@bbn.com (Chris Ross)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com


h2ph doesn't properly convert long constants:

% h2ph
#define foo 2L + 0x2L			<---  you give
sub foo {2 &L + 0x2 &L; }		<---  you get

Here's a fix:

*** h2ph.old	Wed Oct  7 00:20:18 1992
--- h2ph	Wed Oct  7 00:20:46 1992
***************
*** 143,148 ****
      while ($_ ne '') {
  	s/^(\s+)//		&& do {$new .= ' '; next;};
! 	s/^(0x[0-9a-fA-F]+)//	&& do {$new .= $1; next;};
! 	s/^(\d+)//		&& do {$new .= $1; next;};
  	s/^("(\\"|[^"])*")//	&& do {$new .= $1; next;};
  	s/^'((\\"|[^"])*)'//	&& do {
--- 143,148 ----
      while ($_ ne '') {
  	s/^(\s+)//		&& do {$new .= ' '; next;};
! 	s/^(0x[0-9a-fA-F]+)[lL]?//  && do {$new .= $1; next;};
! 	s/^(\d+)[lL]?//		&& do {$new .= $1; next;};
  	s/^("(\\"|[^"])*")//	&& do {$new .= $1; next;};
  	s/^'((\\"|[^"])*)'//	&& do {


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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: frazier@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Gregory Frazier)
Subject: Bug in patch level 35
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 17:49:51 GMT

Hello!
	There seems to be a syntax error in bigfloat.pl in the
most recent version of perl (if what we have *is* the most recent).
What we have:

	oahu) perl -v

	This is perl, version 4.0

	$RCSfile: perl.c,v $$Revision: 4.0.1.7 $$Date: 92/06/08 14:50:39 $
	Patch level: 35

	Copyright (c) 1989, 1990, 1991, Larry Wall

The problem: in bigfloat.pl, there are the lines

	sub main'fneg { #(fnum_str) return fnum_str
	    local($_) = &'fnorm($_[0]);
	    vec($_,0,8) =^ ord('+') ^ ord('-') unless $_ eq '+0E+0'; # flip sign
	    s/^H/N/;

But perl does not recognize '=^' as an operation/assignment.
The fix is easy, and we've done it, but I thought I'd mention
this as something to be remedied - especially as it is so
weird that this got distributed in a form that won't even
compile.  Perhaps I goofed somewhere?

--
"They thought to use and shame me but I win out by nature, because a true
freak cannot be made.  A true freak must be born." - Geek Love

Greg Frazier	frazier@CS.UCLA.EDU	!{ucbvax,rutgers}!ucla-cs!frazier
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron)
Subject: local() bug?
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:52:09 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

The following prints "5":

	sub testit {
		$_[0] = 5;
	}
	&testit($foo);
	print $foo, "\n";

so does this:

	sub testit {
		local($bar);
		$_[0] = 5;
	}
	&testit($foo);
	print $foo, "\n";

But the following prints a blank line:

	sub testit {
		local($foo);
		$_[0] = 5;
	}
	&testit($foo);
	print $foo, "\n";

Bug, or nonobvious-from-the-docs feature?

perl -v sez:

	This is perl, version 4.0

	$RCSfile: perl.c,v $$Revision: 4.0.1.7 $$Date: 92/06/08 14:50:39 $
	Patch level: 35
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Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl
From: mcentral@netcom.com (Media Central)
Subject: Where can I find sybperl ?
Keywords: sybperl sybase
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:14:14 GMT

Iam sorry if this info is in some FAQ, which I tried to locate anyway.
Could someone tell me where I can find sybperl and any feedback, if any ?
It will be nice if you mail the info to this address: shahid@adtellnet.com
cheers,
shahid ahmed
Newsgroups: comp.lang.perl