HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jbw@bigbird.bu.edu (Joe Wells)
Newsgroups: alt.personals
Subject: Re: I'll tell you why there aren't any women here
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:25:44 GMT
 <JBW.92Aug11212557@bigbird.bu.edu>
 <1992Aug12.134712.2964@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: Victoria.M.Haliburton@dartmouth.edu's message of 12 Aug 92 13:47:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.134712.2964@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
Victoria.M.Haliburton@dartmouth.edu writes:

   to Joe Wells (and others)

   You *totally* misunderstand the original problem.

This isn't true; I understand what is being complained about but don't
understand *why*.

   A woman posts an anonymous "SWF ISO nice SWM". In it are references to
   friendship and shared activities, nothing explicit.

   Several hundred posts come in.

   One of them is grossly obscene and threatening, on the level of an
   obcene phone call.

   YOU CAN'T EDIT OUT A HARASSER YOU'VE NEVER RUN INTO BEFORE.

I still don't see what the complaint is about.  The recipient of an
obnoxious anonymous e-mail message can simply press `d' (or whatever key
is pressed to delete a message) and read the rest of their messages.  The
harasser who sent the obnoxious message doesn't know who the recipient is
or where the recipient lives, so there's nothing to be worried about.  If
the recipient had told people what city they live in in their posting,
then the harasser knew that already *without* sending e-mail, so the fact
the the harasser has sent e-mail doesn't change that.

Even if a harasser makes threats, they can be ignored.  Unless someone
breaks into the office at Shecora Associates and gets the address list
from Darryl's computer, there is no danger.  Even if this happened, I'm
sure Darryl would post a warning to the net that it had happened.

Seriously, what are people worried about?  I wouldn't be afraid of a
person who doesn't know who I am or where I live and who didn't have any
way to find out.

Here is a related question:  Do you folks feel obligated to respond to all
your e-mail?  Even if you receive, for example, 400 messages on a single
topic?  Perhaps that is the source of the trouble.

-- 
Joe Wells <jbw@cs.bu.edu>
Member of the League for Programming Freedom --- send e-mail for details
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From: reidyj@mist.CS.ORST.EDU (Jay Reidy)
Newsgroups: alt.personals,alt.personals.ads
Subject: Re: I'll tell you why there aren't any women here
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:58:56 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

In article <KWATSON.92Aug9221023@netcom.com> kwatson@netcom.com (Kennita Watson) writes:
>Since I posted a long and detailed personal, I got fairly few
>responses, and got away with only one insulting response and one
>obscene response.  The guy who was being obscene cleaned up his act
>when I a) pointed out that I had no use for this kind of behavior, and
>b) promised to post his message and ap address to the group and to
>forward them to the moderator if he didn't clean up his act.  All the
>women who post could do this, but they shouldn't have to.
>
>But why am I saying this to you?  The people who need to be reached
>probably aren't reading this.  Sigh.
>
>Kennita

  Right on Kennita!!!
Newsgroups: alt.personals
From: schow@skatter.usask.ca
Subject: Re: Rai Has Been Chosen as Net.Goddess!!!  Read On...
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 20:34:30 GMT

From article <1992Aug14.210737.7626@news.iastate.edu>, by spam@iastate.edu (mike begley):

> In article <BszIKv.FIw@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (<<<***Steve Franklin***>>>) blathers...
> 
> [...]
> 
> 
> you turd.
> 
> have you ever written a positive post?  You've got the be the biggest
> douchebag I've encountered on the net.  From what I could tell, the
> campaign to pronounce Rai as goddess or whatever was a nice contrast to
> the flamewars of late here.  Perhaps we should proclaim you a Net.douchebag.
>

I would like to take this opportunity to cast my vote favoring Steve
"Turd" Franklin as Net.douchebag.


And I concur with Steven Sobol's suggestions for the duties of
Net.douchebag (from article <1992Aug14.234501.491@wariat.org>).
I don't think the article needs to be repeated ...



Simon


Newsgroups: alt.personals
From: megazone@wpi.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Subject: Re: EVERYBODY *please* read: GM seeking
Organization: WPI USAF -- United Society of Animation Fans
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:46:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.012043.8227@lemuria.sai.com> ap.1347@cupid.sai.com writes:
>former Naval Lt.Tracy Thorne (masculine and courageous).  You remember
>him, on TV and in news articles, COMING OUT to the whole nation!

Actually, I don't. I don't watch much TV, and I don't have the time to read
the paper everyday.... But, good for him....

>I know, I'm asking for too much, on a computer bulletin board, where
>people who read and send ads are reclusive, out of touch with
>themselves, let alone the outside world.  I missed the chance while I

OK, this is the reason I replied.... Why do you make this generalization?
Of course, YOU posted an ad too, you realize. Normally I spend an hour or
two on the nets a day. That covers reading my mail, which can take over an
hour alone (I reply to nearly all mail I get-except mailing lists), using
rn to update myself - I read many, many groups (normally not a.p, but I drop
in here from time to time), and working - I run WPI's anime FTP site and I
write. (See some recent posts...) But that is time that most others I know
spend watching Tv, etc. which I generally don't do. (I'm not building myself
up, just using myself as an example) I have friends, I go out, I LIVE LIFE!
Or, at least, I make the effort. 

And I've met many other fine people through the nets. Which is one reason I
get on so much, communicating to friends around the globe. Sharing things 
with others. I may not be full up on current events outside of varying areas
of interest, ie areospace, general technology, basic polotics, but I try to
pick things up whenever I can, I would like to know it all, I'm an info
addict, but I have priorities, family and friends, and myself sometimes,
have to come first. (Plus jobs and school, if I want to eat...)

I guess it just gets to me when I see generalizations about the net as a whole
since it isn't an entity, rather a medium for communication shared by
thousands (millions?) or useres, all individuals.

(Hmmm, maybe I should switch to decaf...)

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Newsgroups: alt.personals
From: quafster@bach.udel.edu (Robert Bryan)
Subject: Warrior seeks Comrade
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 14:03:32 GMT


Runner, fighter, 6'5", 230 lbs., 21 yrs. old, Writer, Warrior, Poet,
dancer, bridge player.
Seeks same (maybe a little smaller) or similar in female.

Not interested in aliases.
.
From: patton@phy.uab.edu (David Patton)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Earthworms (more details please)
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:16:58 GMT
Reply-To: patton@phy.uab.edu
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham


I would also like to see more information posted from those with experience on 
growing their own fish food (worms, shrimp, etc) I have not found it in the 
FAQ anwhere; so if you have the knowledge and the time please post. 

Adthanksvance!!!!
From: thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
Subject: Mail order fish
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:13:21 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hello again...

     Does anyone know about any retail mail-order fish places?  I'm mainly
interested in all marine fish and African cichlids.  An address and any 
information you could give me (price, quality, etc.) would be greatly
appreaciated!

Thanks in advance,
John

 
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Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: howardr@col.hp.com (Howard Rebel)
Subject: Re: Earthworms (more details please)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:02:55 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

In article <1992Aug13.150616.5192@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> akarpowicz@mta.ca writes:
>     Usually you can start a hatchery by mixing a rich soil or compost in a
>container, keeping it moist by misting it when needed. If left in a cool and
>dark environment they will probably breed and a colony will thus be started.
>However you must make sure that you do not feed the larger adult worms to your
>fish or breeding will not take place. 
>You can also feed fish grubs or maggots.
>                                                     Phillip Karpowicz

Is it really that easy Phill?

Does the shape of the container matter, will a 30 gallon plastic 
garbage can work for example.
How many adult worms are needed to get it started?
How many adults per cubic foot of container?
How many baby worms does an adult have at a time and how often do they
reproduce?  Is it seasonal?
How long does it take the young to become 1 inch long.
What temperature is cool?
How large a container do I need to supply 200 feeder worms a week?
Does the culture need to be divided or renewed in some way?
etc.



-- 
Howard Rebel hpcsos.col.hp.com 

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria
From: fvr@broom.bae.bellcore.com (Frank Ricciardi)
Subject: Re: pumps in homemade wet-dry filters?
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 12:14:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.153028.1@pomona.claremont.edu>, efang@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
|> 
|> I've a question for those who have built a wet dry without using a standard
|> water pump; just powerheads or something like that...
|> 
|> What kind of pump did you use?


	I used an 801 powerhead for some time, and it was quite effective.
Later I drilled out my sump, and installed a bulkhead fitting & an Eheim 1260.
This is nice because there is more room in the sump for stuff.



|> How well does it work? How much impaired is it in its function?
|> What would you reccommend?
|> 
|> Thanks, Eric Fang
|> 

-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
"If you got to it and didn't do it, may you never get to it, and do it again"


Frank V. Ricciardi

fvr@bae.bellcore.com

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: fssmith@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Greg Smith)
Subject: Re: Establishing a Reef
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 13 Aug 1992 14:44 EDT  

In article <shawn.1.0@Novell>, shawn@Novell writes...
> 
>I have been slowly trying to establish a reef tank since January.  The setup 
>includes the following:
> 
>6 9" high output florescents. (3 actinic blue and 3 broad spectrum)

What is a 9" fluorescent light? how many watts is it rated at?  
I would want around 400 watts of fluorescent light on your setup.

> 
> 
>(I've tried, but can't figure a way to get a protein skimmer in this thing, 
>which I've been told over and over is very important)

Run one out of your prefilter box and have it return directly into the tank.
You can keep the skimmer behind the tank.  You want an external model.
> 

>Nitrates are at a constant 20 to 30. and other tests come out at 0.  SG is 
>at 1.024.  I change about 10 gallons a week just to be safe, but I'm sure
>it's overkill.  
On a healthy reef, nitrates, nitrites, ammonia, and PO4
are undetectable using ordinary aquarium test kits.

> 
>What steps should I take to get to reef-ness? (lot's of live rock, plant 
>rock etc...)  Add all the live rock at once?  I really want some good advice 
>because I've spent a fortune so far and want to have some results to show 
>for it.
If you want to quickly establish your tank you will need lots of live rock.
If you purchase rock with lots of creatures you may want to add it piecemeal
to avoid a huge ammonia spike.  If you are adding base rock with not much
life on it add it all at once.

Preferably no gravel.  Add your rock and let it cycle before adding any coral.
Add lots of algae eating snails BEFORE algae becomes a problem.  Get a good 
(HUGE) protein skimmer.  Shop around and talk to lots of people before 
purchasing or making one.  Some models work much better than others.

> 
>I've just recently had a few things die for no apparent reason (probably 
>light related).  One beautiful ($85) purple lipped clam died along with 
>several damsels.  The gobie was unaffected (supposedly frail?).  Help Help 
>Help.

Do you mean a tridacna clam?  They like lots of light.  I lost the first one I
bought years ago, but since then I have purchased three different clams, a 
T. squamosa, a T. Deresa, and a Hippo species and all are growing and thriving.


Good luck

Greg Smith
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From: tli@caldera.usc.edu (Tony Li)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Pointer to FAQ
Date: 15 Aug 1992 01:05:04 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Reply-To: tli@cisco.com,patti@hosehead.hf.intel.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: caldera.usc.edu

	 Pointer to FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) for *.aquaria

The FAQ for sci.aquaria, rec.aquaria and alt.aquaria is posted monthly on
the first on of the month.  It is posted with an extended expiration time,
so it may still be on your news machine.

The FAQ (and any other useful information that is submitted) will be 
available through anonymous FTP on jerico.usc.edu (128.125.51.6), 
located in Los Angeles, California.  Login through ftp with 'anonymous' as
your username.  The FAQ files are located in the directory pub/aquaria.

Correspondence regarding the FAQ should be directed to Tony Li
(tli@cisco.com) AND Patti Beadles (patti@hosehead.hf.intel.com).

Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: fvr@broom.bae.bellcore.com (Frank Ricciardi)
Subject: Re: Anemone Question #99
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 12:27:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.214026.13337@cs.ucla.edu>, jason@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Jason Rosenberg) writes:
|> You might want to lose the Heniochus.  Although it is just hearsay, I've heard
|> that butterflies are definitely not anemone-compatible.  Apparently, they
|> tend to pick at the anemone with they're long beaks, and gradually damage
|> the anemone beyond repair.   Just a thought.  
|> 

	Jason,

	Good point, although I`ve never actually caught the Heni. picking at
the anemone, it is certainly possible.


|> 
|> What are the dying symptoms of your anemone?
|> 
-- 


	The anemone would inflate and deflate almost daily, I think this is 
normal, but it would gradually decrease in size, even invert itself sometimes,
the just start to meltdown.


________________________________________________________________________________
"If you got to it and didn't do it, may you never get to it, and do it again"


Frank V. Ricciardi

fvr@bae.bellcore.com

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From: faith@wam.umd.edu (Jerome V. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Re: Spouse Survey
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:35:58 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <BssD0I.IJC@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> ijr@canard.waterloo.edu (Ilana Jayne Rosenshein) writes:
>In article <BsME4v.B1J@apollo.hp.com> timv@apollo.HP.COM () writes:
>>I'd like to compile a survey of how spouses/SOs deal with us fish people.
>>Put your spouse/SO into one of these catagories. I will post the results.
>>Should be interesting!
>>
>>	1. Absolutely hates it
>>	2. Tolerates it
>>	3. Mildly interested
>>	4. Another fish person.
>>
Question, .... do any of these statements extend to parents?  If so, my mom
wouldn't fit in any of these. But if I had to choose,  she is fakeing a 3.
It's her hard earned money that's paying for my 75 gals of water. ha ha ha.
She'll get over it.    
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From: sh240031@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: DI water---Potable?
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:07:13 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

Do anyone know if DI water is potable?

If it's good for my reef tank it can't be bad for, I thought.  Yesterday 
a biology Prof. said he wouldn't drink the stuff.  What does the net think?
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From: lim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Nitrates - How long for filter to work?
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:09:03 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

>From: fvr@broom.bae.bellcore.com (Frank Ricciardi)
>
>	Typically UGF's cause nitrates to go up and stay up. They are dirt 
>magnets and unless you keep them clean, forget it. I had one and ripped it out
>&* replaced it w/ a Wet Dry. 

I just rip my reef tank apart and install a UGF ......
have I shock you ???

Well, actually its a new item called "System 3" by Aquarium Product.
It looks like a regular UGF, but it has a "V" shape bottom which will
trap all the dirt. The dirt will then be suck up (hopefully) by connecting the
extension tube to a power filter. 

>	All you can do is large scale (40%-60%)  water changes until it goes 
>down, but it won't stay there.

100% H2O change is ok too, if your temperature and alkalinty is the same.
To win the hair algae war (I had too much phosphate and nitrate), I made 
a 100% water change, scrub all rocks, use DIY H2O and install the new UGF. 
The corals and fishes were placed in buckets while I did the cleaning which
took me 5 hours. All corals and fishes survived and happier than ever :)
The elegant took 2 days to puff up to it's original size.

Will keep you posted on how effective "System 3" is.
It'll be a hot item if it works.

Anyone else tried "System 3" ???

==============================================================================
                                                 from Lim  --- the fish nut

US Postal Address: Computer Center, University of Kansas, 
                   Lawrence, KS 66044           
Internet Address:  lim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Bitnet Address:    lim@ukanvax.bitnet

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From: lim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Gif wanted: Saltwater reef/fish, goldfish
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:22:46 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I'm looking for nice gif files, especially saltwater fish/reef. 
Freshwater gold fish are welcome too.

Thanks in advance

==============================================================================
                                                 from Lim  --- the fish nut

US Postal Address: Computer Center, University of Kansas, 
                   Lawrence, KS 66044           
Internet Address:  lim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Bitnet Address:    lim@ukanvax.bitnet

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From: kerry@is-next.umd.edu (Kerry Ogata)
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria,rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Re: Shark questions
Keywords: shark
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:13:33 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. Ctr., Univ. of MD, College Park, MD 20742

In article <1992Aug21.135642.11452@hubcap.clemson.edu> bob@hubcap.clemson.edu (Bob) writes:

>     I posted a message to alt rec and sci.aquaria the other day asking
>questions about raising sharks.  I have not gotten any replies except
>for people telling me that they are too hard to raise and that I should
>not try it or from people who tell me that they have posted a similar
>message and to forget about getting any help from the people in these
>groups.

>     What is the deal is this some secret society or do you think you
>all are too good to help someone who is just starting out with their
>first salt water tank?  All I am looking for here is some help not
>anyones permission to do it.
>     Maybe I am wrong, is it that no one here knows anything about
>sharks.

Well, whining about it is definitely *not* the way to get an answer.
People here give advice to beginners ALL the time.  I personally
think they should be commended for wading through the "my fish just
died what is wrong?" articles and following up to very basic questions 
(which people could have gotten the answer to easily on their own if they
weren't so lazy.)

If you post a question and don't get an answer, the best thing to do
would be to post again and ask if everyone got your first message.  It
is not very polite to snivel and call everyone in these groups snobs.
I don't know where you get off saying that you don't "need anyone's 
permission."  No one here gives "permission," just sound advice most
of the time.  

It seems that you have an attitude problem.  No one is obligated to
help you at all, and you're certainly not going to impress anyone by
demanding help and whining when people tell you something you don't
want to hear.  
-- 
kerry@is-next.umd.edu / kogata@wam.umd.edu
Academic Software Development Group, Computer Science Center
University of Maryland, College Park
Newsgroups: alt.aquaria
From: sonny@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joseph.j.de rosa)
Subject: Re: Ideas/help
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:57:57 GMT

In article <l8o6c7INNh68@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> lancej@forestlawn.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>
>I want to build an outdoor `pond' for them on my
>deck.  What I envision is a three story waterfall affect with a large pool at
>the bottom for the fish.  I have a magnum 350 to power the falls, and filter
>the water.  What I need are construction tips/ideas.  Materials safe to use,
>materials to steer away from etc.  Any ideas, tips or caveats would be greatly
>appreciated.

Your idea seems a bit sketchy to me. How large a pool to hold the fish 
are you talking about? If this is going to be in the 50-100 gallon range, 
you can get a prefab fiberglass pool. You could also build a frame out of 
wood/rock/other and line it with PVC or Butyl rubber. You should note that a 
Magnum 350 is not designed to lift water, adn it won't pump enough for a 
waterfall anyway. I can supply some information (and sources) on how to build 
a pool if you email me specifics about what you want (surface area of pond,
how deep, how many gallons, how many fish[and what size], etc.). I have 
built 2 ponds for myself, and have helped design and install a few more.

Joe DeRosa
jderosa@attmail.att.com
>
>particulars on the location is sunnyvale CA.  Fairly mild most of the time
>with occasional bouts of serious heat and cold.  What precautions will I
>need to take with temperature extremes and goldfish?  Chillers are out of the
>question, but heaters are an option.
>
>Any information cheerfully accepted.
>
>thanks
>Me
>aka
>Lance
>
>
>