From: kannan@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Kannan Subramanian)
Subject: Re: (misleading) Indian Express Advertisement re: RJB
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:15:35 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Colorado State University


In response to Kuram Narayana :

|> I think you should try to learn to read English. 

I think you should stop writing English. 

|> It spoke of secret societies.

Try again. The word "secret" does not even appear in the 800 line article.

      [ stuff about Kuram Narayana not being allowed into Mayanagar slum 
        meetings without a password deleted ; Incidentally, I don't know 
        what the heck you're talking about. What's with the "secret"
        fixation?" 
      ]
        
|> Now the mail from
|> Pramath Sastry recommended acceptance of some guy to a list. That is unusual
|> to an open forum. Isn't it?

If somebody doesn't have access to a mailing list, and would like to be heard,
what is so unusual about somebody establishing contact on his behalf? Where is
the conspiracy? Educate me.


|> at the work of some desparate marxist groupings. Every marxist is
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> a terrorist. He believes in the armed overthrow of the state. Why should
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> any one evaluate, when the philosophy of marxists is to cause as much
   
Narayana, why don't you add the following to your list?

Every liberal is a pseudo-secularist, or worse, Marxist. (And we all know what
Marxists are.) Also, every Gujrati is slimy and business-minded. Every Imam is
a Khomeini. And last, but certainly the most world-shaking revelation of
all : Every Muslim will cheer Pakistan in a cricket match.  

The problem here being (I can't believe I'm explaining this) ;

If you place individuals into categories, very soon, you will be dealing with  
the said categories instead of the individuals. You will ascribe attributes to
the individual-on-hand that she or he may not possess. (In this case
Jayaraman.) Do you still claim that every Marxist is a terrorist?

Besides, I can easily disprove your statement (underlined above) by converting
to Marxism overnite and not indulging in terrorist pursuits. Of course, your
thesis would have it that strange powers beyond my control would drive me to
believing "in the armed overthrow of the state" overnite. (I can't wait to try
this out.)  

|> I have not labeled thisguy mister. If he had quietly written an article on
|> sci, I would have probably read it without worrying about his political
|> connections. Ask your Parmanath Sastry why he has written that this guy
|> is a politically well-connected, influencial, full-bloodded marxist. 

As I've said elsewhere, the Marxist connections of the author are completely
irrelevant in evaluating the article's contents strictly on its merit. Pramath
Sastry is also irrelevant. 

|> You are blaming me, for some thing that I have not done. Go and make
|> a phone call to this Pramanath guy (yep! a friend of Sanjeev Mahajan)
|> okay! 
|> ...kt

I have done nothing of the sort. I don't know either Pramath or Sanjeev
Mahajan, so you might want to stop advising me on what I should be doing with  
my telephone.  

|> >On the contrary, the dishonesty of the writer, if any, remains to be
|> >demonstrated. Character assasination seems to come easy to you. More
|> >smoke and many mirrors will have to be invested in before I can assimilate your
|> >kind of wisdom.  
|> 
|> I have not done any of that. Actually your red friend Pramanth Sastry
|> gave a character certificate to this guy, saying that this guy is afull-blooded
|> marxist.  I only said that any secret societies mail can be broken open;
|> that is a democratic right. Where is the character assasination. You have
|> heaping one upon me.

You said, and I quote : 

"Come on! Bapa Rao, there are people on this side who  
can think, and estimate who is honest writer, and who is not."
                               ^^^^^^
(Btw, how presumptuous!) Anyway, who were you calling a dishonest writer if not
the author Jayaraman? Are we pulling the same rope here?

|> Think about it!

Amen. 

-kannan

ps - Many of your sentences escaped my comprehension. The fault is no doubt
mine. You can have the last word on this. 




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