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From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: mildly obscure pink floyd questions
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:54:42 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <BuLH5n.H61@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin) writes:

>} 5) i read somewhere that David Gilmour and Roger Waters didn't like each othe
>} 	a whole lot... true?

>True again...  and saying they dont like each other a whole lot is an
>understatement.

Keep in mind that it wasn't always this way, or they never could have
stayed together for 12 years.  Roger is an egotist, no a megalomaniac.
After a certain point, he stopped giving any creative credit to the other
members of the band, with a minor concession to Gilmour for his guitar
solos.  Roger basically said:  Here is the song - Dave, make up a guitar
solo to go here.

On one of Dave's solo albums, there is a song called "Murder" which is
clearly about Roger.  It does a good job of summing up his feelings.

Rick Wright also has a solo album, with a song about Roger called "Pink's
Song" in which you can see that Rick is in awe of Roger and allowed himself
to be quite intimidated by him.  Roger really hated Rick and kicked him out
of the band just before they broke up (I don't know the exact time, it
might have been during the Wall tour).  What chemistry: a megalomaniac, and
someone with an inferiority complex.  

Roger is a much better lyricist, although he just got more and more
obsessive and depressing as the years wore on.  Gilmour's lyrics display a
fierce commitment to rhyming couplets - it almost makes you want to puke.
The other band members did make significant contributions to the music of
Pink Floyd, and Roger treated them like shit.

And Roger can't touch Syd Barrett when it comes to creativity.
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From: idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Lollapalooza '92
Date: 6 Sep 92 13:46:34 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


A friend will be returning to the US soon and would like to know
of any tour dates for Lollapalooza '92.

Thanks for any info.

Ian

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From: steiner@bakerst.rutgers.edu (Dave Steiner)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Blues Traveller?
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:56:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Cc: steiner

In article <1992Sep14.164343.29550@colorado.edu> rpb@starr.colorado.edu (Robert Baptist) writes:

>		   I would reccommend both their albums, though neither
> is particularly "new".  (A new one should be out sometime early next
> year.)  

I suspect what's "new" is their record company has re-released
_Travelers and Thieves_ with an additional CD of live material
(probably of EP length).  So they want us to buy a second copy of the
album just to get this extra material!  I plan on writing the record
company (I don't have the CD handy and I don't remember which one it
is).

ds
-- 

Dave Steiner
arpa: Steiner@BakerSt.Rutgers.Edu or Steiner@Rutgers.Edu
uucp: ...{backbone site}!rutgers!bakerst.rutgers.edu!steiner
From: daniel@acpub.duke.edu (Daniel Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Marillion: questions
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:02:32 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <92258.093058EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu> EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu (Young Indy) writes:
>
>     Aside from that, I like the album a lot, and am interested in purchasing
>more Marillion CD's, but I would like to know how their music, if at all, has
>changed over the years since '85. I think they have earlier albums than '85,
>and am curious as to their early sound as well. Any and all info would be
>greatly appreciated. Thanks...
>
>
Marillion has been through a relatively severe evolution since they were
started back in 1983.  (Note:  I realize they actually started as the
SilMarillion in the '70's, but I wanted to start with the effective Fish
years.)  The first two (non-live) albums were "Script for a Jester's
Tear", 1983, and "Fugazi", 1984.  The sound on both of these is much
more "harsh" IMHO than that on "Misplaced Childhood."  The album
immediately following that album was "Clutching at Straws", 1987.  This
album resembles Misplaced in many ways.  The sound of the music on both
is very fluid and polished.  (Again IMHO, these two are my favorite
albums by "old" Marillion.)  
	Two albums later (one a b-sides album, the other a two CD set of
live versions of their best stuff), their lead singer Fish, a.k.a. Derek
W. Dick, left the group to start his solo career.  Since then Marillion
has released three albums, each with a progressively more "popish"
sound.  Personally, I like them, but based on relatively recent postings
to the progressive newsgroup, there are quite a lot who don't.  Their
most recent album, "Six of One Half-Dozen of the Other" which features
songs by both Fish and the new lead, Steve Hogarth, has a new song
called "Sympathy" a remake of a war-era song, which I personally have
never heard (but wish I had, mind you) that is truly perfect for the new
lead's voice and the band's style of music.  
	Fish's solo career has done rather well, about as well as the
band itself.  His albums, "Vigil and a Wilderness of Mirrors" and
"Internal Exile" seem to jump back to the old days of Marillion.  Fish
is truly a poet, and all the songs he ever wrote exemplify that.  I
agree with those who say that maybe his "angst" is overblown at times,
but that's okay.  

	In short, buy 'em all.  There's something great on every one of
them, and it's worth the money.  Just my $267.52 (+tax).

T. Daniel  Crawford
Center for Computational  Quantum Chemistry
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602

Reply to: daniel@raphael.acpub.duke.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: sabotkap@woods.ulowell.edu (Pete Sabotka)
Subject: Re: Joe Elliot = Sam Kinneson (Was Re: MTV Music Awards)
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:21:32 GMT

: In article <1992Sep15.181421.43019@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
:  JE did look like SK.  My girlfriend even asked if it was.  Maybe he
:  would have sounded better then Joe...-- 
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2 times, huh? (JK)      *8)
From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Hey duner -- got two words for you
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:43:11 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <BuDKpw.Mty@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard) writes:
>>>>  When I see Axl Rose and Elton John playing piano together on stage, I get
>>>>  that doomed feeling.  Elton is fine, just with Axl?
>
>>>>  I think Elton's got a burning feeling for him.
>>> 
>>> Hey Duner (what kind of name is Duner?) -- got two words for you -- FUCK YOU!
>
>>Easy fella!  Thats quite a bit of hostility for what seemed to be an innocent
>>comment.  I don't know what "Queen mail service" stands for, but I think we all
>>know now.
>
>  It was a joke!  He a friend of mine, I take every opportunity to humiliate
>  him as I can.  :)

Maybe you should stop it because it makes you look like a fool...


-- 
Jeffrey Neau - jeffy@redwood.cray.com
From: 890560p@dragon.acadiau.ca (Trevor Porter)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Under the Bridge Question
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:05:47 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

lrose@nestor.uucp (82370s-punskovsky) writes:

>>
>>>Q:  What are the lyrics of the "high" part at the end of the 
>>>    song "Under the Bridge" by RHCPeppers?
>>
>>Under the bridge downtown...
>>				Is where I drew some blood
>>Under the bridge downtown...
>>				I could not get enough
>>Under the bridge downtown...
>>				Forgot about my love
>>Under the bridge downtown...
>>				I gave my life away.
>>
>>
>>It's about how Anthony Keidis contracted HIV.
>>
>>Murray Chapman
>>muzzle@cs.uq.oz.au


>Interesting, Keidis is HIV positive?!  This is news to me, how
>factual is this?

This is completely FALSE.  Keidis is not HIV positive, or at least this song
is not about that.  It's about his addiction to drugs a few years ago.

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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.hard,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: MAILING LIST: Guns N' Roses
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 23:40:06 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

dlb54694@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard) writes:

> 
>   HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GOING TO POST THIS FUCKING MESSAGE?!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
 
As many times as it takes for someone to actually sunscribe?
 
--Don

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From: aproden@ac.dal.ca (Andrew P. Rodenhiser)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: The ORIGINAL Alice Cooper Group
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:05:11 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <92251.141311BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu>, <BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> This is aimed at *true* Alice Cooper fanatics:
> 
> Does anyone know the whereabouts of Alice's original band members???
> (Mike Bruce, Dennis Dunaway, Glen Buxton, & Neal Smith)
> 
> After the original group spilt ways in 1974/1975, I never heard what became of
> any of these other guys... Any clues?
>                                             Thanx, Brian...

There was an album by them, the band was called Billion Dollar
Babies.  I Didn't buy it, so I don't know how old or what since.
I'd love to hear them again, since the best Alice is everything
from Pretties up to the Bob Ezrin/Dick Wagner days.

Try ALICEFAN@WKUVX1.BITNET  I just subscribed to this mail
server and maybe someone there knows more.

I've never heard anything as cool as the guitar noise on 
Halo of Flies, Lay Down and Die, Goodbye, etc.

> 
>          ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: eigenstr@cs.rose-hulman.edu (Todd R. Eigenschink)
Subject: Columbia House phone numbers
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:05:44 GMT

I forgot about my promise to post the phone numbers until someone
reminded me via email a couple minutes ago...here they are:

Business office: (812) 466-8111
Customer service: (812) 466-8125
Record & tape club: (812) 466-8125

There is a toll-free number for the video movie club/library, however:
(800) 457-0866

--
Todd Eigenschink (eigenstr@CS.Rose-Hulman.Edu)
Psychopathic Peon System Administrator
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology, Terre Haute, IN
"I've seen it work before..." -- Stephen Smalley
From: esw@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric S. Wallace)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Alice in Chains Lyrics
Date: 8 Sep 1992 03:44:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I recently bought the album Singles, and really enjoy Alice In Chains'
"Would?". I would enjoy it even more if I could tell what on earth
he is saying. If anyone knows, I would appreciate a copy. :)


Eric Wallace
wallace@chezmoto.ai.mit.edu
esw@po.cwru.edu
From: sammut@qut.edu.au (Andrew J Sammut)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Genesis Mailing List
Date: 16 Sep 92 10:57:13 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology



Could someone please tell me how to subscribe to the Genesis Mailing
list?


Thanks heaps...
Andrew...
From: schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: PJ Antics (was: Re: need: pearl jam lyrics)
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:07:46 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Yes, Vedder's antics on/off stage are canned.  When PJ played here in
May at an outdoor concert, Vedder climbed on the scaffolding and hung
20 feet high from his knees, upside down, still singing into the mic.
When  he got down, he left the mic wrapped around the frame, dangling,
and ran towards it, jumped on it, swung back and forth over the
moshing audience, and let go to fall into the audience.  I expected
him to do something (b/c I'd seen the Evenflow video), but he was
absolutely nuts...
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From: paul.fletcher@rose.com (paul fletcher)
Subject: Recent & Upcoming Alb
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:20:04 GMT
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Date Entered: 09-10-92 21:14
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G > Guido
G > (ghogen@zeus.informatik.rwth-aachen.de)
G > 
G >
    Is there anyone who can repost the upcoming releases here.  I 
don't have access to rec.music.info and really enjoyed these lists.


Paul

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From: rpb@noaacrd.colorado.edu (Robert Baptist)
Subject: Re: Award Show
Organization: NOAA Climate Research Division
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 05:35:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.201715.11899@uwm.edu> bearcub@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Husky Cub) writes:
>In article <phlegm.716168729@camelot> phlegm@camelot.bradley.edu (Kevin Bourrillion) writes:
>best batch of videos I have seen in a long time. Let's Get Rocked was creative,
>Right Now was a classic, Red Hot Chili Peppers' "Under The Bridge" wasn't
>a "ground-breaking video", but it was *very* popular, and it scored, and as
>far as Nirvana...well...the theme for "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was cool,
>but as I see it, It's a one hit wonder. If Nirvana is all that is is cracked
>up to be, the next two singles off of the Nevermind album should have scored
>big. But they didn't. Oh well.

    Oh.   Right.  Since when does selling records = the best band?  And
you're saying "Lithum" hasn't hit big?  You have a distorted view of what
makes a band good and what makes a band not "all that is [sic] is cracked
up to be."   "Let's get Rocked" creative?  If you're 12 years old.

>>-Best Performance of the night--Red Hot Chili Peppers. Flea in his undies

    Pearl Jam and the Black Crowes relied much less on
image and a lot more on musical substance to put on better performances,
in my opinion.  The Crowes know what a real jam is and Eddie Vedder puts
his energy into constructive lead vocals unlike Anthony Kiedis who's energy
goes into being obnoxious.

>As far as Dana Carvey goes....thumbs down. Very sloppy, and not very funny.
>His Saturday Night Live stuff was overused. Boring...He had a few good
>comments throughout the show, but the little skits of Johhny Carson and
>George Bush were sleepy. Although I enjoyed Garth. Did anyone see the 
>closing credits with him and Pauly Shore razzing each other? If you didn't
>see it, ask. It was funny.

   No way.  He was one of the best award show hosts ever.. If the jokes
weren't funny, he'd move the teleprompter on.  You have to respect that..

>There's my .02.
>Bearcub
>
    - Robert
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: tevonian@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (Pete Tevonian)
Subject: Re: the Spin Doctors
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:59:27 GMT

Thomas.Sullivan@cs.cmu.edu writes:

>Can anyone familiar with the Spin Doctors give me some background
>info on the band?  Where are they from?  How many members?  etc.
>They played here in Pittsburgh a month or so ago, but I really didn't
>know anything about them then, so I missed the show.  But now I like
>what I've heard.

The Spin Docs are based currently in New York, though their members
come from a variety of places. There are four members: Christopher Barron
is the singer -- he comes from Princeton, NJ -- Eric Schenkman plays
guitars -- he is from Toronto and met Barron at the New School jazz
program -- Aarom Comess is the drummer from Dallas who came to the
band via Dallas' Deep Ellum district (alternative music, live bands,
great place to party, actually) -- and the bassist Mark White from
Queens, NY.

They have been together about two years, playing a lot with their
so called "brother band," Blues Traveller. They currently have two
CDs out: Pocket Full of Kryptonite and a live CD with I think 6
songs on it, one of which is on Pocket Full....

I'm sure others out there have more info...anyone?

>--Tom

--Pete Tevonian
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From: kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess)
Subject: Re: Need Help: San Fran./Oakland Natives
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:53:25 GMT

slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher) writes:

>>I will be in San Fransico from the 22nd to the 27th and was hoping to catch
>>the Faith No More/Metallica/Guns N' Roses show at the Oakland Coliseum on
>>Sept. 26.

>>4.) If you were from another town (I'm from Minneapolis), and wanted to see
>>the show, exactly how would you go about it in the following scenarios:

>>          CHEAP: I want to do it as cheaply as possible. Cheap seats, cheap
>>                 transport, cheap food, cheap everything!

>Try to get in one of the youth hostels, take BART, eat burritos, and
>beg for a "miracle" ticket outside the Coliseum.  Works for the Deadheads.

Yes.  Eat burritos.  I moved to Seattle 2 years ago and goddess do I
miss Mission District Taquerias.  Eat a couple of super vegetarian azteca
specials for me, please!

Lena
(this has no relevance to music)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: stam@dgp.toronto.edu (Jos Stam)
Subject: Re: Cool music sights/restaurants and so on in NYC?
Date: 16 Sep 92 04:26:21 GMT

stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal) writes:

>  
>    I'm going to NYC next month and I'd like to see some cool rock stuff
>  while there if possible. What I mean is locations in New York that have
>  some relationship to rock music. For example, I plan to go take a look at
> the site of Hendrix's Electric Ladyland studios, and check out some of the
> record stores in the village. 

Hi Steve :)

Forget about the Village its mostly yuppified. There are of course still some
cool places to go (e.g., the "Scrap bar" which influenced the "Bovine Sex Club"
here in Toronto). I mainly spend my time in "East Village": First and Second
AVe and Ave A between 15th and Houston. Don't go to much east though as it
gets more and more grungy :) CBGB and the Knitting Factory are both
there for example. Also if you are into spending a lot of money and drinking
(pisswater american) beer in a church go to the "Limelight" on 6th Ave at
20th. The club is pretty awesome, but the people and the prices suck. Well
I cannot describe you all the clubs I've been to, but do like me pick up
a copy of the "Village Voice" and check out the club listing.

Also I stayed in a very cool hotel the Carlton Arms at 3rd ave and 25th st.
Each room is personally decorated by an artist and the prices are incredibly
low for nyc. We spend $50/night for two people (incl bath).

cheers,
Jos
From: DAB112@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Who sings "Hallelujah Man"
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:01:53 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Greetings!!

     I am absolutely dying to know who sang that song "Hallelujah Man" some
years back.  Please e-mail me at dab112@psuvm.psu.edu as soon as possible!!
Thank you!!!!

             David.