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From: rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls)
Subject: Re: alpha puppy
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 16:49:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.132037.3602@cas.org> sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.122902.24086@sequent.com> schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep3.184212.18499@midway.uchicago.edu> betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead) writes:
>>>
>>(Many interesting comments about an alpha dog deleted for space....)
>>
>>I couldn't agree more.  Many times people say we didn't pick out our
>>puppy, he/she picked us.....that's probably an alpha pup.  The Monks
>>of New Skete won't let prospect owners pick out their dog.  They
>>temperament test their litters and give a questionnaire to the
>>prospective owners.  Then they match the pups to the owner.  That's
>
>             ...With our current litter, we plan to do both temperament and
>"birdiness" evaluations (along with conformation assessments) and try to match
>the puppies with the people based on many hours of evaluating puppies and
>talking to prospective owners. Of course, the pups are too young (2.5 weeks)
>to assess now...

The breeder I ended up going to had a specific time to test the puppies
(like days 42 through 48) and had an independent tester come to the
house.  The puppies are tested in an empty room with no familiar people
present.

Robbin
From: berlind@acsu.buffalo.edu (heike berlind)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Wheezing Dog
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:52:40 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

>>In article <1992Aug12.165626.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, cabarto@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
>>> Every once in awhile (I'd say at least a couple of times a week),
>>> our one-year-old Bichon Frise starts wheezing.  She can't catch
>>> her breath -- these episodes last for 15-30 seconds.  After the
>>> episode is over, she is perfectly fine.
>>> 
>>> We've been able to determine that it happens most often when she
>>> gets excited, but it also happens just out of the blue.  I've 
>>> scheduled an appointment with the Vet, but I'm curious if
>>> anyone else has experienced this problem and if it may be
>>> unique to Bichon's.
>
My Norwegian Elkhound sometimes has similar symptoms:  He sounds as if
he can't breath and is trying to catch his breath.  When he did it the
first time we took him to the vet right away.  "Luckily"  he did this
"can't breath thing" in front of the vet again.  The vet told us that
it is nothing to worry about, it is "Reverse Sneezing". Apparently
some dogs can sneeze outwards and inwards.
Heike
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Suggestions for Show Awards
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:31:32 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <1992Sep13.004644.843@news.unomaha.edu>, massey@cwis.unomaha.edu
(Dana Massey) wrote:
> 
> Perhaps some of you have seen some unique and nice awards at
> dog shows --something besides the traditional choices of
> silver bonbon dishes and coffee mugs with the breed picture
> on the mug....any ideas, resources, etc would be GREATLY
> appreciated.
> 
> Dana
> massey@cwis.unomaha.edu

The best awards are *practical* and/or *unique* things !!
Some of my favorites:
*A local club had an artist do individual paintings (on wood photo
album covers) for group placements and BIS.....perhaps someone
in your club has some artistic talent that you can tap into !!
*Another local club does beautiful cross-stitch trophies for groups,
Obedience,  BIS and various breeds...I know I make an extra effort 
to make it to this show in hopes of winning one of these !!  (They also
do a big cross-stitch quilt that they raffle off each year as a money
maker for the club)
*Our club gave those insulated travel mugs a couple of years ago.....
they were fairly cheap and they got a *fantastic* response (not just
another coffee mug).  Group prizes for that show were coolers and 
matching jugs and BIS was a portable smoker/grill.
*Stainless steel bowls can always be used and for a modest investment
the club can buy an engraver to hand letter the bowls with the K.C. name
and/or the award (BOB, BOS, WD, etc).
* I personally liked one show where the breed awards are immediately
useful to the ones who *really* deserve the award.....like a show that
I entered that gave booda bones for BOB !!!
* Advertise your show as a PRACTICAL show and award things like: 
BOB/BOS/WD/WB/OBED PLACEMENT:   Booda bones, Choo hooves, Dog biscuits
GROUP PLACEMENTS:  Pooper scoopers, Stainless steel bowls and buckets
HIT/HI COMB:  Dumbell Set, Portable Jumps
BIS:  Ex pen, Grooming table, Crate


Hear, Hear for clubs trying to do something usefull and practical......

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Katwala Australian Cattle Dogs
Kathy_Buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu
"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Stacey Curtis <sec@csc.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Hip Dysplasia the complete list from OFA
Organization: University Of Canberra
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 23:06:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.120100.2635@hemlock.cray.com> Dennis Guldan,
djg@cray.com writes:
>    I have received a number of requests for incidence of 
>Hip Dysplasia in certain breeds of dogs. Here is what I got
>from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA), last week.

Thankyou Dennis.

I have a big favour to ask you along these lines.  Do you think that the
OFA would also have a similar listing for the incidence of Chondro
Dysplasia (Dwarfism), and if so do you think that you could grab a copy
and post it.  Here in the land of Aus(tralia)  we have had the scare
mongerers run around and say how it's only a matter of time before there
are heaps of "Dwarf" Alaskan Malamutes and, needless to say, people are
being turned off the breed because of these IMHO stupid people who should
really get a life.  I think they just look up their little doggie
encyclopedia's and find a scarey disease with an even scarier name and
then start a little rumour mill going and sit back and watch the effects
of their little drama.  We have had this a couple of times and not once
in my experience have there ever been any proof of the existance of any
of the accused conditions.  Any assistance you could provide with this
Chondro Dysplasia question would be greatfully received.

Stacey, Kodi (the wonder dog), Mali (super bitch) and Pernod (the
scavenger).
From: gbelli@opal.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Tip for the tight-pocketed
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:46:37 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1992Sep10.152811.14706@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, millios@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.l.millios) writes:
> Just thought others out there would like to know - I saved myself
> 30 bucks last night.
> 
> I took my 6 mo. old Chesapeake to the vet last month, and he
> said it was time for her rabies shot.  He said, "I can give it
> to you for 30 bucks, or you can call around and find a town
> that's giving it for free..."
> 
> Naturally, I opted for free.
> 
> Not sure how this applies to nation-wide, tho.  But give it a shot.
> Many vets aren't like this one, and aren't going to tell you that
> you can get something for free elsewhere.
> 
> Bill
Yes, yes, yes!!
A fire station in my community had a rabies clinic this weekend--$1.00.
Can't beat it.  If you don't want to call around, I would call your local
animal rescue league--that's who put on the clinic I went to.
From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: IAMS and other dog foods
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:01:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bu2qIx.L1s
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab


In article <1992Sep4.203342.19940@ctr.columbia.edu>,
mcfadden@bellman.lanl.gov (Russell McFadden) writes:
ve eleven dogs at the moment, ranging in age from 7 months to
|> 14 1/2 years. They are all currently on a mixture of Breeder's
|> Choice, IAMS, and ANF. I've never had any problems with the
|> Sighthounds on any of these three brands (I've never had a problem
|> with Nutro, but some of the "oldsters" won't eat it), but I have had
|> MAJOR problems with Science Diet: weight loss, poor coat, dry skin,
|> etc.

We now feed our Cocker Spaniel NutroMax adult in the little dog kibble.
She LOVES IT!  (we feed our cats NutroMax too) We had the same problem
with Science Diet.  Baeki had  terribly flaky skin on her back, her hair
had lost some of its shine and she only ate it when she was abolutly
starving...it used to take TWO months to go through a big bag 6-8 lbs! Now
she goes through one bag of Nutro in about a month and a half. Same
with the cats (same problems, same situation). She's a much happier dog 
now and that's what we're going to try first on our GSD pup when he 
gets here! (too young to leave Mommy right now!)

Kay Schlumpf & Crew
From: garrison@kodak.com (Laurie Garrison)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: any good obedience classes in rochester?
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:24:17 GMT
Reply-To: garrison@kodak.com (Laurie Garrison)
Organization: Image Processing Algorithms Laboratory, Eastman Kodak Co.


someone once posted that they knew of a good obedience class in the
rochester area.  my golden (indy) has been to obedience, but i think
we both could use a refresher!  

could someone email me the name of a good obedience school in the
rochester area?

thanks!
laurie


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From: millios@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.l.millios)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Tip for the tight-pocketed
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:28:11 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Just thought others out there would like to know - I saved myself
30 bucks last night.

I took my 6 mo. old Chesapeake to the vet last month, and he
said it was time for her rabies shot.  He said, "I can give it
to you for 30 bucks, or you can call around and find a town
that's giving it for free..."

Naturally, I opted for free.

Not sure how this applies to nation-wide, tho.  But give it a shot.
Many vets aren't like this one, and aren't going to tell you that
you can get something for free elsewhere.

Bill
Xref: sparky rec.pets.dogs:10611 rec.pets:3008 rec.pets.cats:10744
From: HXKPY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Diana Gregory)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets,rec.pets.cats
Subject: Can you help this dog? URGENT - time short.
Date: 7 Sep 92 13:48:04 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Apologies to the rec.pets.cats people - but you MIGHT know
something or someone to help here.

At my trailer park, the guy who lives in the trailer across
the "street" from me has had a black-lab looking dog with him
since he moved in a couple of months ago.  2-3 weeks ago, a
brown dog was added.

I was talking to him last night, asking him what kind of dogs
they were - and he said that the brown one was a purebred red
hound with papers, trophies, etc. - about 9 years old.  Also
the mother of the black dog.  Then he dropped the bombshell -
He "was going to _have_ to get the red dog destroyed" because
he "just couldnt' keep her any longer".  He said that no one
would take her.

I won't give the details of the conversation - I MAY have
talked him into trying the SPCA instead of just euthanizing.
And Pets in Need.  But time is short - he's not willing to
give her more than another week (Had I know...)

Anyway - maybe someone here can suggest something?
I am no dog person, and my cats would disown me anyway...

If you have suggestions, e-mail me at diana@slac.stanford.edu.
If you want to get me fast - my work phone is (415) 926-2202,
and my home phone is (415) 593-4906.

Diana
(This is not an opinion of SLAC, Stanford or the DOE)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jhill@sierra.com (Julie Hill)
Subject: Re: Hair over eyes
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:30:49 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.135042.6817@unislc.uucp> abb@unislc.uucp (Anne Beck) writes:
>> 
>In this month's Gazette, there's an article about the OES National.  Correct 
>me if I'm wrong, but the HIT dog is shown with its hair tied back!  I have
>friends who show OES in obedience (they took second in Nov. B this weekend 
>with a 194.5), and they always show their dogs with the hair tied back.
>
>   Anne Beck			| The difference between difficult
>   abb@unislc  sun!unislc!abb   | dogs & vicious human beings is
>   Unisys  SLC UT               | that difficult dogs don't rise to 
>			        | prominent positions in the community.


Well, I was going to let the topic drop since I do not own an OES and can't
speak from experience, but since it came up again, I'll make another comment.
This came up in my obedience "Ring Preparation" class and the specific
example  of an OES was used.  According to my instructor, who has years of
experience training and showing many different breeds of dogs, it is legal to
tie OES's hair back.  Furthermore, the AKC regulation states, "ANY dog whose
hair over its eyes interferes with its vision..." (emphasis mine.)  I do know
of Bouviers who show with their hair tied back, even though they are not one
of the breeds mentioned regulation.

Julie
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Muzzle Training?
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:10:07 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Meg McRoberts writes:
> 
> ==> PREVENT her from chewing the carpet, we taped
> ==> it to the floor with duct tape. She removed the tape from the
> ==> floor and when I returned home, I found her covered in it.
> ==>
> ==> I was as careful as possible removing it from her fur, but I
> ==> *KNOW* it hurt her.
> ==>
> ==> I would NEVER recommend taping a dog's mouth shut with this VERY
> ==> sticky stuff...it's just down right CRUEL!!
> 
> i don't know about the taping-the-mouth training technique,
> but if it is valid, i would think vet-wrap would be a much
> better material than duct tape.  vet-wrap is the brightly
> colored bandaging material they use these days -- it's not
> sticky, but sticks to itself.  you can get it in the horse
> section of the feed store, or i've seen similar stuff at the
> drug store marketed as "atheletic wrap" or something.


I missed the original posting, so sorry if I am on the wrong track, but if the
intention is to somehow tape or wrap the dog's mouth shut to prevent chewing
while you leave the dog alone, I would really recommend against it! Not only is
it somewhat abusive, even if the tape is not sticky, it also will not teach
your dog anything and it could also be very *dangerous*! Your dog can't chew,
but it also can't drink, vomit or pant! Please consider using a crate if you
have a chewing problem, accompanied by proper training when you are there to
supervise.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Re: Protective Akitas
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:47:03 GMT


>dog was protective...got aggressive...bit a neighbor

That's aggression, not protection.

I think in the case the original writer was talking about, it's more a
matter of learning what the dog is "saying" when barking.  My dog has
several types of barks, but I only learned what they all meant as she got
older.  If the Akita he was talking about was truly barking to "protect"
(that is, a "warning back"), neither he nor anyone else would approach the
dog.  I can hear WARNING clearly in my Akita's warning bark.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: macaj2@cspyr1.cs.adfa.oz.au (MACKINNELL AMANDA)
Subject: Re: Help!!! How to train my 11-month-old golden not to jump!
Summary: additionally
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 07:07:34 GMT

In article <1685F8369.CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu>, CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
> In article <92255.001858U49110@uicvm.uic.edu>
>    <U49110@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>  
> >I bought a 9-month-old Golden for my family during early August.
> >He is very "active" and smart, too.  For the past two months, from my
> >point of view, he has adapted himself very quick, however, he still has two
> >serious "problems":  biting and jumping.
>  
>  
> As you dog is jumping, bring your knee up into his chest with enough
> force to knock him over backwards.  Of course, this only is effective
> when he jumps on you.  It would be nice if the other people that he
> jumps on would do this too, but obviously there are times when that
> just isn't practicle (such as visitors & your 4 yo daughter).
> For those cases, put him on a leash, and when he jumps, jerk him
> backwards (knocking him down if you can time it right).
>  
> Good luck.
>  
>       ----------------------------------------------
> Chris Barnes            |

	In addition to Chirs's good advice, try making sure that nobody 
	pats him until he is sitting down. I.e. when you come or situations 
	where he is likely to jump, after you have had to administer the knee 
	to the chest, push him into the sit position and praise him.. 
	if he moves, instantly stop patting and put him back into the sit.
	Eventually he should sit in anticpation of seeing you.. this is also 
	good reinforcement for the recall exercise. 

	Amanda MacKinnell
	Puddledog Retrievers
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: tynan@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (tara.j.tynan)
Subject: tonsillitis
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:57:04 GMT

Hello,

I have a Maltese, male, 8 months old.  He is having problems
with tonsillitis.

The first time it happened, he was 4 months old.  Nothing too
bad.  Medication cleared it right up.  In fact, it was caught
during a routine check-up.  He wasn't showing any signs of problems.

For the last week, he has been making this terrible sound.  We
thought it was the collapsing trachea problem, cause he had some
trouble with this earlier.  Last night though it became obvious
that he was in distress and I took him ASAP to the vet who diagnosed
a major case of tonsillitis.

So my question is this:  I know dogs have tonsillectomies if necessary.
The vet didn't mention it last night, but we had talked about it
the first time (just in general terms).

If surgery is indicated, what can I expect (in reality) about recovery,
etc?  If anyone has gone thru this, could you share the experience?

Thanks!

Also - he just got a splint off for a broken leg last week.  At that
time I mentioned the sound to the vet who (now that I look back) blew
it off.  More concerned with the xrays, splint off, etc I guess.
We saw a different vet in the office last night.  So I think this
could have been caught a week ago.  I'm pissed at that vet and said so.

This poor puppy must think his second home is the vet's office.  His
broken leg was a freak thing - jumped down out of my daughter's arms
as she was setting him on the floor.  The vet said he's seen this
happen before - our daughter was way upset thinking that she had been
the cause.

Anyway - thanks again for anything you can share!

	Tara Tynan

	tynan@ih4sm.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sla54@cas.org (Sandra Augustine)
Subject: Re: Black GSDs
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:14:51 GMT

In article <BuBrBB.DEw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf) writes:
>
>show ring like the white ones? They told us he wasn't show
>quality, conformation wasn't right, but I forgot to ask about the
>color.  I don't want to show him anyways, not in conformation
>anyway, maybe in obedience, depends on  a lot of stuff. They
>mentioned that he could bring in a lot of money as a stud just
>because he was black, well, we were going to get him neutered
>anyways but just out of curiousity, would he really?
>
	Am I following this correctly - the breeder says that the dog has
conformation that "wasn't right" AND she/he is suggesting that the dog
could/should be used as a stud dog? If the conformation isn't "right", it seems
to me that the dog should be sold on a spray/neuter contract basis rather than
as a potential stud dog!

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From: mikeb@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening)
Subject: Re: how bad is chocolate for dogs?
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:12:03 GMT

In article <Bu9rBK.37C@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount) writes:
>>	Hi - somewhere (here, months ago?) I heard something about
>>chocolate being bad for dogs - that some amount greater
>>than a lick off a popsicle stick was bad for them.  Is it something
>>about milk content?  How much is too much, and how bad is it?
>*----
>Chocolate contains theobromide, which is toxic to dogs.  How much
>is a problem depends on the chocolate, the dog's tolerance, and his
>size.  I know of dogs that have eaten small amounts of chocolate
>without ill effect (about 1/8 oz) and a couple that have eaten
>substantially more, but lived to wag the tail (after getting
>very sick and throwing up all over the place).  Personally, I
>don't let my dog get near it (but I share the peanut butter
>pretty generously).

My dog ate a couple of the bite-size snickers (wrapper and all)
at christmas time last year as well as some M-n-M's, all wrapped
in a nice package my wife had made for someone, when I wasn't
looking.  We called the vet at the emergency clinic here in town
and he said not to worry since Beamer weighed near 30 lbs and he
hadn't thrown up yet.  He said if continuous vomiting occured to
bring him in then.  Beamer had no problems until it was time to
eliminate the wrappers the next day.  Appearantly it is dose 
dependent, that is how much chocolate / how much the dog weights.

Since I am new to trying to post stuff on the net I have one 
question I want to append to this post.  I tried to post it before
but I think the distribution was set to nill so I may have been the
only one to actually see it.  If not I am sorry but if so, maybe
you can help me.  I would like any info I can get on cocker spaniel
breeders in the US and especially in the midwest.  Email or post
is fine.  Thank you in advance.

			--Michael Buening
			internet:mikeb@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu
From: srj@key.COM (Scott R. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Dog Food!  Questions!  Help!
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:46:01 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced Systems, Fremont CA

I posted a local message about my dog before, now, how about a global
one on dog food?

My Spitz/Border Collie cross likes Purina Dog Chow, sans water (must
be the crunch)  and gets water afterwards (we also have one of those
lick-the-faucet contraptions).

Now, I've had cats that got all plugged up from dry cat food; is this
a possible problem with dogs?  I've been putting water in the dog food,
but she prefers it dry...

Any recommendations?



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