HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dawdy@tellabs.com (Dan Dawdy)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Alco GIF's posted
Date: 6 Apr 92 02:45:48 GMT
Organization: Tellabs, Inc. Lisle, IL

I have placed 5 (Sorry, I got carried away) GIF files
in Alt.binaries.pictures.misc of current Alco power.
Descriptions follow.  Again, if some of you don't
recieve that group I can send the pictures to you.  Just
send your request and give me a few days to reply.
I can not FTP from here so if anyone wants to put
these on a site, that's fine with me.
To answer a few questions, All pictures were shot by me
with Canon equipment (FTb/F1/A1) on either Kodacolor or
Ektar film.  Scanning is done on a H-P ScanJet II which
is new to me so hopefully the quality will continue to
improve.  I have had many requests to scan out of rail
books.  I have held off on this because of copyrights
although that does not seem to stop people on the other
binaries pictures groups.  Maybe later. 
Next week: Miscellaneous meanderings thru rail yards.
Enjoy

Dan
dawdy@tellabs.com

GBW_308.GIF
Resolution.......798x550x256
Size.............201,908
Green Bay & Western RS20 No. 308 started life as an RS3 and was
rebuilt by the GB&W w/2000 h-p engine.  Engine was captured
in Green Bay yards August 1985.

GBW_309.GIF
Resolution.......798x550x256
Size.............212,447
Green Bay  & Western RS11 No. 309 shown sitting in Green Bay
yards in August 1985. Built in 1956 it's the only one of its
kind still on the roster.

GBW_312.GIF
Resolution.......800x567x256
Size.............205,797
Green Bay & Western Century 424 carries the unusual cheveron paint
and the name "Homer E. McGee" under the cab window.  Picture was
shot in GBW yards Stevens Point, WI August 1988. This is a great
place to shoot the Alcos as they are always working the paper mills
in the area.  Easy access to yards and fairly friendly personnel.


GBW_319.GIF
Resolution.......800x562x256
Size.............212,998
Green Bay & Western Century 424 with local leaves Stevens Point, WI
in route to Plover with customery Alco smoke.  Photo taken June, 1987.

LSI_1604
Resolution.......795x560x256
Size.............276,087
Lake Superior & Ishpeming RS3 No. 1604 smokes it's way out of
Munising, MI on a beautiful autumn day.  Running long end first
with crew standing on the front (back) porch.
Organisation: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet, Muenster, Germany
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 14:05:54 MES
From: Ruediger Gaensfuss <FPU08@DMSWWU1A.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Diesel-electric in Germany (was: Re: TRAVELOGUE ...)
 <92104.194805FPU08@DMSWWU1A.BITNET>

In article <92104.194805FPU08@DMSWWU1A.BITNET>, Ruediger Gaensfuss
<FPU08@DMSWWU1A.BITNET> says:
>In article <92104.161610LMASSONN@ESOC.BITNET>, Dr. Lutz Massonne
><LMASSONN@ESOC.BITNET> says:
>>Or do you mean the Kbs 4072-4077 dual power shunters...
>No. I can't tell you the numbers by momory, but there were some
>K"oe (maybe Kbe, too) in the fifties, most of them former army-engines.
Not quite correct what I've written. The diesel-electric shunters were:
K"oe/Kbe 4078-4097, 4735, 4738-4756 (buildt by Borsig and Henschel in
       1933-1935 for the DRG)
Kbe 4995-4997 (buildt by Henschel in 1935 for the LBE (since 1938 DRG))
K"oe 6042 (buildt by Henschel in 1938 for the army (after WWII: DB))
Some of them were rebuildt into diesel-hydraulics. K"oe 6042 (totally
different to the other "Kleinloks") is conserved in Bremen.

>V16: I'll have a look at home tomorrow.
V16 004 (later A20 090) is dual-power (like the Kbs-shunters).

Ruediger Gaensfuss (FPU08@DMSWWU1A.BITNET) University of Muenster, Germany
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: johnm@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com (John Mosbarger)
Subject: Re: Rail Maps in General (was Re: Rail Maps - Wisc,Mich)
Organization: HP Cardiology Business Unit - McMinnville, OR
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 19:19:25 GMT

     Another good source of maps if you're interested in finer detail is
the USGS topographical maps.  The most detail will be found on the 7 1/2
minute quadrangles, but generally the 15 minute maps will be sufficient.
The 7 1/2 minute maps cover an area of about 5 or 6 square miles.  I order
mine from the local book store.

--
John Mosbarger
HP McMinnville, OR
johnm@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com
From: krauss@Oswego.EDU (John E.Krauss)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Wash DC Frequencies
Keywords: Frequencies,Wash DC
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:33:41 GMT
Reply-To: krauss@oswego.Oswego.EDU (John E.Krauss)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

FREQUENCY INFORMATION NEEDED:
 
I am traveling to the Washington DC area next weekend (4/17) and
need RR Frequencies for the area. In particular, I would like
frequencies for:
Norfolk Southern (Old RF&P Division)
Norfolk Southern (Mainline thru Manasass,VA)
MARC
Washington Metro
 
I have the CONRAIL and AMTRAK frequencies for the Empire Route
thru upstate NY. Are they the same for the NE Corridor, Harrisburg
Route and south of DC?
 
Also would like D&H,Susquhanna between Binghamton & Scranton.
 
Thanks. Reply here or by email to
 
krauss@oswego.Oswego.edu
From: pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Rail Freqs.
Keywords: scanner, frequencies, USA
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:21:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <6APR199215250855@alpha.sunquest.com>, rfj@alpha.sunquest.com
(RICHARD F. JONES) writes, in part:

>Since I have a mobile radio scanner and have a hangup about trains, I 
>was wondering if anyone knew how I could go about ascertaining the 
>frequencies to listen in on for SP train traffic in Southern Arizona?

	Hopefully someone will have some specifics, but in case not:  If the
	scanner has a search mode, search 160.5 to 161.5MHz (roughly).  Many of
	the RR frequencies are in this area.  Ther are also some in UHF & lately
	some 800 stuff.  Radio Shack or equivalent has frequency guides, tho
	check to be sure RR Frequencies are included.  Library?  Failing all
	else, the frequencies are a matter of public record, at the FCC office,
	if thats close enough to be practical.

thanks
dave pierson			|the facts, as accurately as i can manage,
Digital Equipment Corporation	|the opinions, my own.
200 Forest St			|I am the NRA.
Marlboro, Mass		01752	pierson@cimnet.enet.dec.com
"He has read everything, and, to his credit, written nothing."  A J Raffles
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Car Attacks SP Train
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:28:28 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Apr8.213000.17317@berlioz.nsc.com> mikel@berlioz.nsc.com (Michael G. Lohmeyer) writes:
> In article <1992Apr07.191545.28309@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com> johnm@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com (John Mosbarger) writes:
> >......The street crosses the track at about a
> >30 degree angle, there are no gates or lights, but visibility is almost
> >unrestricted in both directions.  The engineer said he saw the car from a
> >long distance, but noticed it never slowed for the train.  He also said he
> >was laying on the horn but to no avail......... 
> 
>      There were no lights or gates and the only thing the engineer was
> using to warn cars was his horn!!  This couldn't be right.  Every railroad
> crossing I have ever seen that didn't have lights or gates has had 
> breakman with flares, etc. to control traffic while the train crosses.
> Am I missing something here?

Methinks you've got an urban mis-perception...

-- 
George Robbins - now working for,     uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
but no way officially representing:   domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
Commodore, Engineering Department     phone:  215-431-9349 (only by moonlite)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
From: pierson@cimnet.enet.dec.com (dave pierson)
Subject: Re: RDC's and SPV's?
Keywords: history, RDC, Budd
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 13 APR 92 08:03:35 EST

In article <122200078@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, rogerm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Roger
Mitchell) writes, in part:
>I can remember when the Budd RDC's were new on the Boston and Maine when I was
>a kid growing up in Massachusetts. When they were new they ran quite reliable
>though they were real dogs for acceleration.
	hrmmmmm.  An article in TRAINS, when the Budds were new, spoke quite
	favorably of the acceleration.  Not much by passenger auto standards
	but, for RR equipment, quite acceptable.  Numbers escape me, though.
	The comment was, roughly:
		"same acceleration as assigning a GP <whatever> for each
		four cars, and clearly more economical"
	(which was, historically, what the MBTA/B&M DID when the depowered
	the RDC's...)

thanks
dave pierson			|the facts, as accurately as i can manage,
Digital Equipment Corporation	|the opinions, my own.
200 Forest St			|I am the NRA.
Marlboro, Mass	
01752				pierson@cimnet.enet.dec.com
"He has read everything, and, to his credit, written nothing."  A J Raffles
From: 31ochs@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Rail Freqs.
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:09:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: gw.1992Apr7.220912.3733
Distribution: na
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Apr7.000607.1655@e2big.mko.dec.com>, pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson) writes:
> In article <6APR199215250855@alpha.sunquest.com>, rfj@alpha.sunquest.com
> (RICHARD F. JONES) writes, in part:
> 
>>Since I have a mobile radio scanner and have a hangup about trains, I 
>>was wondering if anyone knew how I could go about ascertaining the 
>>frequencies to listen in on for SP train traffic in Southern Arizona?
> 
> 	Hopefully someone will have some specifics, but in case not:  If the
> 	scanner has a search mode, search 160.5 to 161.5MHz (roughly).  Many of
> 	the RR frequencies are in this area.  Ther are also some in UHF & lately
> 	some 800 stuff.  Radio Shack or equivalent has frequency guides, tho
> 	check to be sure RR Frequencies are included.  Library?  Failing all
> 	else, the frequencies are a matter of public record, at the FCC office,
> 	if thats close enough to be practical.
> 

Actually, you might wanna try 160.000 to 161.500
CSX uses 160.230 and 160.320, so the lower part of the 160's are used.
I know they don't go above 161.500 though, and I don't think the RR's use
anything else for mainline, and dispatcher communication.
and yes, Radio Shack does have a freq. book. there is also another book,
just on RR freq's, and they publish freq's in Extra 2200 south periodically
also.
Hope this helps,

Fred Ochs
31ochs@gw.wmich.edu  (vax)
ochs@sol.cs.wmich.edu (unix)
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From: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: transport efficiency
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:42:48 EST
Reply-To: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

Here is a press release from the American Public Transit Association.

 News Conference on Funding of Transportation Efficiency Act
 To: National and Assignment desks, Transportation Writer
 Contact: Chip Bishop of the American Public Transit Association,
          202-898-4114

   News Advisory:

   Event:    The American Public Transit Association news conference

   When:     12:30 p.m. Monday, April 13

   Where:    AMTRAK Gate C, Washington Union Station

   Who:      Maryland Secretary of Transportation James Lighthizer
             Virginia Secretary of Transportation John D. Milliken
             Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (D-D.C.) (invited)
             APTA Vice President of Rail Transit Rod Diridon

   Background:
   Full funding for the Intermodal Surface Transportation Efficiency
Act may not be realized because the Bush administration has proposed
a cut in federal support for public transit, with funding less than
60 percent of what is authorized in last year's landmark
transportation bill.  Anything less than full funding will hamper
cities' and states' attempts to comply with the Clean Air Act and the
Americans with Disabilities Act, and serve to increase congestion in
the nation's streets and highways.

   Photo Opportunities:
   James Lighthizer will speak, along with Virginia Secretary of
Transportation John D. Milliken, and APTA Vice President for Rail
Transit Rod Diridon.  Rep. Eleanor Holmes Norton (invited) is also
scheduled to speak.  Representatives from the Washington, D.C.
metropolitan area's two commuter rail lines, MARC and VRE, will also
be on hand, and locomotives from both rail lines will be parked on
nearby tracks.
   APTA is the international association of operating transit
authorities, their suppliers and others interested in the advancement
of transit service.
 -0-
 /U.S. Newswire  202-347-2770/
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario/Detroit, MI
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: SP/SF merger paint scheme spotted
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:27:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr7.132738.4066
Reply-To: elw4@po.CWRU.Edu (Evan L. Werkema)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw) says:

>Just last Friday, 3 April, I was waiting for the Caltrain commuter on San
>Francisco's peninsula and spotted a GP9 in the Kodak paint job. I thought all
>the old stuff was gone by now. So who knows how many units of which types
>still wear that uniform? Where do they live? Feeble minds wanna know.

   There are nine ex-ATSF C30-7's in the SPSF scheme standing in the deadline
east of Conrail's Collinwood Diesel shop here in Cleveland (along with about
16 C30-7's and 5 B36-7's in blue plus assorted Conrail units).  A few others
are stored around the shops themselves.  I haven't seen any running, though.

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From: jr@ksr.com (John Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Rail Maps - Wisc,Mich
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:47:22 EDT
	<'.702332058@amber.athena.lkg.dec.com>
Organization: Kendall Square Research, Waltham, MA
In-reply-to: jeff@athena.lkg.dec.com's message of 3 Apr 92 15:14:18 EST

In article <'.702332058@amber.athena.lkg.dec.com> jeff@athena.lkg.dec.com (Jeff S. Tyler) writes:
   >Del Lorme publishes Wisconsin, Michigan and Minnesota Atlas/Gazetters. I have 
   >found these to be a most excellent railfan aid.

   >The format consists of psuedo-topographic maps that that show (among other
   >things) all raillines, who owns them, and abandoned right-of-way. The neat
   >thing about these, though, is that they show all of the "backroads" and much
   >detail that just isn't possible on a State Dept. of Tourism map.

   >They run about $14 and are available in bookstores and convienience stores. It
   >is also possible to order them directly, but I don't have the adress with me.

   I don't suppose that they also publish maps for the NE US ?  Can someone
   recommend a similar map covering MA, NH, CT  & VT ?  My son and I spend a
   lot of time poking around both live and dead rail.  I know most of the old
   ROWs fairly well but maps of this nature would be nice to have.

If you want all the roads and topo features in addition to lots of old
features (abandoned RR grades etc.) the good old USGS topos are hard
to beat.  The metric series is now coming out in 1:25000 scale 7.5x15
minute (twice the coverage of the old maps), for about .6 by 1 meter.
These cost $2.50.  You'd need maybe 50 to cover all of MA, but for any
day's trekking you'd work hard to go onto more than a few.

I just picked up 4 today, for just this purpose...
--
/jr, aka John Robinson                       Place stamps here
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if troubles: ksr!jr@world.std.com       mail without correct postage
From: gurd@next06csc.wam.umd.edu (Daffy Duck)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: BOOK REVIEW: LRR3
Keywords: Light Rail Review 3
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:24:03 GMT
Reply-To: gurd@wam.umd.edu

I just recieved it in the mail!  Light Rail Review 3, A in-depth review of  
the develpment sin light rail transit.  Published jointly the the Light  
Rail Transit Association and Platform 5 Publishing, Ltd.  Edited by Peter  
Fox, it is full color with 80 pages.  You can order it from Platform 5,  
Lydgate House, Lydgate Lane, Sheffield S10 5PH, United Kingdom.  The price  
is 9 pounds including surface overseas delivery.  If your sending a US$  
check you have to add the equilivant of 3 pounds (total 12 pounds) to  
cover bank processing charges.

   This is a beautiful soft cover book.  It is a MUST for any serious  
light rail fan or professional.  There are numerous articles including  
Zurich's streetcar priority system, Hiroshima's leading the way in Japan,  
the new Manchester Metrolink project, and one on the future of Light Rail  
in the U.K.  There is only one picture of a U.S. system, the recently  
opened one in Baltimore.  Overall the book was excellent and considering  
the price (less than $20 US equilivant), you can't pass it up. 
   On another note Light Rail Review 1 which includes a photo feature on  
Light Rail in the US was recently REPRINTED and is available from the  
above address for 6 pounds 95 pence, plus 20% shipping and handling, and 3  
pounds if your sending a US$ check.  Again at the offered price any  
serious of fan of light rail in the US shouldn't pass up the opportunity  
before the reprint sells out.
From: 31ochs@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Car Attacks SP Train
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:10:44 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Apr8.213000.17317@berlioz.nsc.com>, mikel@berlioz.nsc.com (Michael G. Lohmeyer) writes:
> In article <1992Apr07.191545.28309@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com> johnm@hpmcaa.mcm.hp.com (John Mosbarger) writes:
>>......The street crosses the track at about a
>>30 degree angle, there are no gates or lights, but visibility is almost
>>unrestricted in both directions.  The engineer said he saw the car from a
>>long distance, but noticed it never slowed for the train.  He also said he
>>was laying on the horn but to no avail......... 
> 
>      There were no lights or gates and the only thing the engineer was
> using to warn cars was his horn!!  This couldn't be right.  Every railroad
> crossing I have ever seen that didn't have lights or gates has had 
> breakman with flares, etc. to control traffic while the train crosses.
> Am I missing something here?

I don't know where you are from, but here in Michigan, most of the crossings
that aren't on main roads don't have anything but cross-bucks.
Some don't even have a stop sign or yield sign, which I think is kinda
dangerous with Amtrak speeding through at 65+ mph, and freights at 50+.
Both CSX,Amtrak,Conrail, and GT in my neck of the woods have crossings this way


Fred Ochs
31ochs@gw.wmich.edu  (vax)
ochs@sol.cs.wmich.edu (unix)
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From: rogerm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Roger Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: Re: Re: Diesel-Electric vs. Diesel-hydraulic
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:27:15 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

The transmission that George Robbins describes here is the type used in the 
Budd RDC's but in locomotives like the German built Kraus-Maffi, the prime
mover operates a hydraulic pump which powers hydraulic motors on each axel.
The D&RGW had 2 of these units but they over heated on the mountain grades
at elevations over 9,000 feet. They were later sold to the Southern Pacific
who ran them unitl they wore them out and scrapped them.
					
				Roger Mitchell
				Master Mechanic: Ft. Collins Municipal Railway
From: dawdy@tellabs.com (Dan Dawdy)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: RR GIF's Posted
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:42:58 GMT
Organization: Tellabs, Inc. Lisle, IL

Below are the discriptions of three new GIF's which have been posted
to "alt.binaries.pictures.misc" for this week.  As always, if some of
you do not get the group you can mail me a request and I will send them
to you.  I have a new automatic mailer so you should here from me much
sooner than before.  PLEASE...If your site can not handle E-Mail over
50,000 bytes in size let me know.  My sections are cut into 1000 line
or about 62,000 bytes in size.  I had some mail bounce back.  It's a shock to
open my mailbox and see 60-90 pieces of returned mail!

AMK_451.GIF
Resolution......800x540x256
Size............265,270

Amtrak #451, F69PHAC, leaves Chicago's Union Station with
with ex GO Transit GP40TC trailing.  #451 is using AC traction
motors and is being tested and evaluated by Amtrak.


CNW_403.GIF
Resolution......800x537x256
Size............189,791

Chicago & North Western #403 F7A along with new SD60 heading
1988 Milwaukee Circus Train.  Working as a rent-a-cop for
Martin Security while going to school in Madison, this was one
of the few jobs I looked forward to.  Three of us were stationed
in the Janesville, WI yards to guard the train as it layed over
for the night.  We received our instructions from two armed
North Western cops at 7:00PM and while they stayed at a local
hotel, we took turns walking the train for the next 12 hours.
This was the summer of extreme dryness in the Midwest and so
they decided not to use steam because of the conditions.


SOO_6024.GIF
Resolution.......800x565x256
Size.............202,547

I arranged a tour for the Madison, WI N-trak group through the Soo Line
yards in Bensenville, IL back in 1990.  After being shown the hump 
operations we were allowed access into the deisel maintenance facilities.
We just happened to get there during a work break or we would not have 
been allowed in.  This facility is used for routine repairs to heavy
maintenance.  Sorry about the grain but I used Kodacolor 1000 to get
this shot as a flash would have been useless given the size of the building.
Note that this is not as dirty and cluttered as we modelers normally
make them.

Dan

dawdy@tellabs.com
From: christo@bcarh803.BNR.CA (Mark Christopher)
Newsgroups: rec.railroad
Subject: UP buys GM
Keywords: UP, GM
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:24:12 GMT
Reply-To: christo@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

Just heard on the radio (about an hour ago) that U.P. has ordered C$90M
worth of GM locomotives to be built in Ontario.  No more details were
mentioned.

-- 
Mark Christopher                                christo@bnr.ca
Bell-Northern Research                  ..!uunet!bnrgate!bcarh803!christo
     Just adding my thoughts.  There, now my brain is empty again.