HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: caruso@gbi01.enet.dec.com (Angelo Caruso)
Subject: Is my CD-Rom drive Photo-CD compatible ?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:47:07 GMT

	I've read a lot about Photo-CD but I haven't been able to answer a
basic question, before trying the system.

	To what extent my CD Technology Porta-Drive is Photo-CD compatible ?
Could I access at least the first session ? It should be a Toshiba XM-3433
drive or something similar.

	By the way, is technically feasible some sort of "upgrade" to the drive
to make it fully compatible ?

Thanks a lot for your help !!

Angelo.

PS: it's a Mac drive.

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From: snydert@dmapub.dma.org (Tony Snyder)
Subject: Phone Disks hunt
Keywords: phone disk
Organization: Dayton Microcomputer Association: Dayton, Ohio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 17:27:56 GMT

Does anyone out there in the USA know where I could buy a set of the 
Phone Disks telephone directories, cheap?  They usually sell for over
$900 each.  A mail order company called DAK sells them for roughly $150
for the pair.  The catch is that to do so you have to buy one of their
CD drives first.  Any ideas?
           Tony Snyder
From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: NEC CDR35 - Is it SCSI?
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:33:36 GMT
Organization: Vonnegut Tent Rentals, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Eugene Pang (epang@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:
> dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
> >The point is, 50-pin Centronics does not necessarily mean SCSI, and since 
> >there's a +26V line on the SCSI bus, you don't want to put any old 50-pin
> >device on a SCSI bus.  You could damage the device, the host adaptor, or
> >both.
> 
> >> I believe the CDR35 is SASI.  You could try calling the NEC BBS and see if
> >You mean SCSI, right?    ^^^^
> 
> No, I meant SASI, where A=Architecture, a predecessor to SCSI.  My SCSI
> software couldn't query anything from a CDR35, which suggested to me that
> it wasn't SCSI compliant...hence, probably SASI.

Ah, that would explain why my PS/2 appeared to talk to the CDR-35 but
was unable to auto-configure its SCSI ID.  Thanks.

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From: vir@unislc.uucp (Virgilio Lagua_Jr)
Subject: Re: HELP! Mitsumi drives loadhigh?? (was HELP!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: UNISYS Corp., Salt Lake, UT
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:28:23 GMT

Kurt Schumacher (schumach@stortek.com) wrote:
: 
: In article 1if1phINNigt@fnnews.fnal.gov, dh@fncrd6.fnal.gov (don husby) writes:
: > 
: >  I have the same problem with my Mitsumi drive.
: >  My CDROM driver hangs if I try to LOADHI it using QEMM.
: > 
: 
: Don,
: 
: I have NEC and Toshiba drives, and I have had problems loading any CD-ROM
: drivers or the MSCDEX support high.  Generally, I've had problems with any
: SCSI device driver loaded high, so I just leave them all low.
: 
: 	Kurt
: 
I have a Mitsumi Drive and have had no problems loading the drivers
and MSCDEX in High Memory with 386MAX 6.02 from Qualitas.  All my
drivers take up around 180K of High Memory  on an 486/33.

Hope this helps.

Vir


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From: griffith@CASPER.MED.UTH.TMC.EDU ("Dr. James Griffiths")
Subject: Electronic Liquidators ??
Reply-To: "Dr. James Griffiths" <griffith@CASPER.MED.UTH.TMC.EDU>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:11:59 GMT

Hi all,

Does any one know the Phone number of 'electronic liquidators' 800- or
otherwise...  These people are supposed to have very good prices on
old and surplus cd's.  The 800 operator couldn't find them.[dunno maybe
she didn't understand me].

James griffiths [griffith@casper.med.uth.tmc.edu]
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: onetouch@netcom.com (noone)
Subject: Re: Sony 8012 CDROM Drivers needed!
Keywords: Sony,drivers,MS-Windows 3.1
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:02:36 GMT

You want a SCSI CD-ROM driver.  Do you have an Adaptec SCSI card?
Call Adaptec & get their ES-SCSI or SCSI-Master package.  You need
ASPI4DOS.SYS, ASPIDISK.SYS (or equivilant), and perhaps MSCDEX.EXE
(The Microsoft Extensions, for High Sierra format & others).  I have
been told that there *may* be a problem w/ block size -- apparently
the Sony w/ Suns has a 512k block size & DOS likes a 2048k block
size.  I am a little suprised that this would be a characteristic
of the drive, and not the media (the cd-rom you stuff into it...)

This is all information that I got yesterday, and I have NOT got
my Sun CD-ROM working yet!  So take this info for what it's worth.

-Richard Hartman
hartman@ulogic.COM


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From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: NEC CDR35 - Is it SCSI?
Organization: Vonnegut Tent Rentals, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 22:43:02 GMT

We have an NEC CDR35 (model # CDR-35D-01) mounted on an NEC BFU-35 buffer
unit.  Said unit has 1 (one) 50 pin SCSI-like socket on the back.  If it
were real SCSI I'd expect two sockets.

Any idea if this is a SCSI drive ?  If so, how do I get it to work?  We
have zero documentation or software for this....

Plays audio CDs real good though......

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||Dave Jones (dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com)|Eastman Kodak Co. Rochester, NY  |
From: entrpoop@access.digex.com (Dexter Medley)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: To caddy or not to caddy
Date: 10 Jan 93 04:20:49 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

>>used caddies. Changing CDs while you drive isn't very safe. If they
>>were in caddies it would be easier than changing cassette tapes. Have
>>the player come with five or six caddies. That should be enough to
>>last until you stop for gas. It seems to me that it would be a lot
>>cheaper than putting one of those changer units in the trunk.

Actually, a few of the first automotive CD players *did* use Phillips
caddies, but folks didn't like wrestling with them to change disks in
the event they didn't have more than one caddy.

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From: lawson%ssdvax.decnet@lbgwy.mdc.com (Jim Lawson)
Subject: Re: CD Caddies
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 23:06:53 GMT
Organization: MDSSC-SSD
Reply-To: Lawson%ssdvx1.decnet@lbgwy.mdc.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

00gwmichelin@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu wrote:
: I am looking for a source for CD Caddies for IBM and Apple CD-ROM players. 
: Does anyone know of a place with good prices?

Walnut Creek sells them for $4.95 each :-)

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Opinions/Comments expressed here are my own and no one elses !!
From: wilko@idca.tds.philips.nl (Wilko Bulte)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: To caddy or not to caddy
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:42:17 GMT

joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  ) writes:

>dcole@ua.d.umn.edu (david cole) writes:

>> As long as I am bitching, I do not understand why ALL cds (audio and
 [stuff deleted]
>used caddies. Changing CDs while you drive isn't very safe. If they
>were in caddies it would be easier than changing cassette tapes. Have
>the player come with five or six caddies. That should be enough to
>last until you stop for gas. It seems to me that it would be a lot
>cheaper than putting one of those changer units in the trunk.

They are actually made like that. The (German) brand 'Blaupunkt' has 
caddies very similar to 3.5" floppies

Wilko
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From: rlakin@eis.calstate.edu (Rick Lakin)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Corel Clip Art CD-ROM
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:34:28 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information ServicesHas anyone had any experience with the Corel Clip Art CD-ROM?  I have

seen it on sale at Computer City for about $70.  The cover says it has
over 1,000 graphics in jpeg format.  I am looking for generic backgrounds
to use in the background for video production.  I am wondering if any of
these would be appropriate.
					Rick Lakin
					rlakin@eis.calstate.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: Gavin Adams <gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com>
Subject: Difference Between NEC CDR-83 nad CDR-84
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A76F23702002BA16@godzilla.jdola.lanl.gov>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 11:37:20 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:38:27 GMT

I understand that both the NEC CDR-83 and -84 drives are OEM and multimedia
compatible, but what is the difference?  Dust door?  Different ROMS?

--- Gavin
Visualize Whirled Peas!
From: dcole@ua.d.umn.edu (david cole)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: NEC 25 noise on audio line
Date: 5 Jan 1993 00:15:49 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: ua.d.umn.edu

I recently got the NEC 25 portable drive in the Mediavision Fusion CD kit.
It works fine, considering it is a cheap and caddyless drive, EXCEPT that it
makes a quite audible and irritating noise on the audio outs whenever the
"busy" light comes on.  This seriously impairs it usefulness for multimedia
-- odd in a drive that comes in a multimedia kit.  I called Mediavision tech
support, and they were very friendly and generally called back twice for
every message I left BUT they were unable to confirm or deny that this was an
intrinsic feature of the drive, a sample defect, or say anything else 
(the techs I spoke to seemed never to have used these drives, and perhaps no
other drives either).

Question: has anyone else noticed noise on the audio outputs of a cdrom
drive?  It is a kind of staticky noise, and, as I mentioned, only occurs when
the busy light comes on.  It quite clearly comes from the drive, as this is
an external drive and I patched it directly into an amplifier located FAR
from the computer, and the noise was not diminished at all.

Grumble,

Dave
From: fox@FOX.CS.VT.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: IEEE CD-ROM Architecture Working Group Meeting
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:12:42 GMT
Reply-To: fox@FOX.CS.VT.EDU
Distribution: alt
Organization: FUNET-NGW

Mike,
  Can you send more info re the WG goals and charter, etc.?
  Thanks, - Ed Fox: Dr. Edward A. Fox, Associate Professor, Dept. of
Computer Science, 562 McBryde Hall, VPI&SU (Virginia Tech),
Blacksburg VA 24061-0106, Phone (703) 231-5113 or 6931,
FAX (703) 231-6075 or 7826, Internet: fox@vtopus.cs.vt.edu
BITNET: foxea@vtcc1
   Also: Associate Director for Research, Computing Center
    1700 Pratt Drive, VPI&SU, Blacksburg VA 24060-6361
    (703) 231-3046,  Internet: fox@flotsam.cc.vt.edu
    FAX (703) 231-7413
Xref: sparky alt.cd-rom:5564 comp.unix.sysv386:17720 comp.unix.sys5.r4:1200
From: wcp@lpds.sublink.org (Walter C. Pelissero)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r4
Subject: Re: Which CD-ROM under Unix (SVR4)?
Keywords: cd-rom sony unix svr4
Date: 9 Jan 93 14:25:56 GMT
Organization: Sweet home under white clouds
Phone: + 39 2 8464117 - 8435411 (work)	8267089 (home)
Postal-Address: Via G. de Ruggiero 87, 20142 Milano - Italia

Well, I think I must add some detail to my original posting.  I'm
planning to buy the new Consensys 4.2 (Destiny, like someone like to
call it). The CD file system si supported. I don't know if this is a
common feature in all 4.2 systems, but also UnixWare supports it (in
fact they optionally ship the OS on a CD)....

I think an Adaptec (1742) host adapter, should not be a problem. The
problem is the CD itself. Consensys list in their documentation:
	- Toshiba (I don't remember the model)
	- Sony (no model is specified, but Sony Italia said they sell
	  only the CDU6211, as I said in the previous article)
	- Pioneer (again, no model is specified, but Pioneer Italia
	  has only a double drive, which is not of much interest)

At the moment the only two choiches I have are:
       - LMSI (Laser Magnetic Storage International, a Philips and
	 Control Data joint venture) CM234.
       - Sony CDU6211.

Sony Italia staff seems to know only Ms-Dos (I don't know how they
could bootstrap their News workstations!). Same story for LMSI.
[ I guess Unix is still a strange beast for most people here in Italy. ]

Now I'm asking:

Are all SCSI CD-ROMs compatible each other and only the host adapter
makes the difference, or I must chose with care the right one?

If no model il specified for Sony, may I expect all models are good
for Consensys 4.2?

Finally, what are your experiences with one or both the units I could
buy?

Thanks, again.
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From: Ashley@chaz.demon.co.uk (Charles Ashley)
Subject: Re: Creative Labs drive 
Distribution: world
Organization: Learned Information (Europe) Ltd.
Reply-To: ashley@chaz.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:30:22 +0000

In article <BzCwDw.IL8@news.udel.edu> danderer@chopin.udel.edu writes:

>
>Is the Panasonic/Mit... drive Creative Labs is bundling with their
>Sound Blaster:
>
>        MPC compliant?
>        XA compatible?
>        multi-session capable?
>
>Thanks.
>-- 
>    Dave Anderer        danderer@brahms.udel.edu       (302) 831-8805
>Instructional Technology Center, University of Delaware, Newark, De.  19716
>                "Sinners can repent; stupid is forever."
>

Not at present, although i'm told by CreativeLabs this will change before 
the end of January.  the current Panasonic drive is single session, non-XA, 
but MPC compliant.  The new Multimedia Upgrade Kit drive will be XA, 
multisession, and _cheaper_ than the current MUK.  My advice is to 
wait a few weeks.

Hope this helps.

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From: achim@anaphi.vlsivie.tuwien.ac.at (Achim Karpf)
Subject: Photo-CD & CorelDraw
Organization: Technical University of Vienna
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:58:55 GMT

I would need some advice how to read Photo-CD in CorelDraw.

I have an Adaptec 1452B Controler, a Toshiba 3301BC, CorelDraw 3.0 with 
the program Mosaic where there is a menue point "Photo CD". But if I try
to read the CD for instance G: "with the aspi cd-device of Adaptec I always
get not a Dos disc.

Is there a special Corel Draw CD-Rom device or any other to be able to read 
Photo CD.

I would be very thankfull for any Information.

Also is there any sotware on the Amiga to read the Photo CD. I got the Xetec
software but they are not yet able to decode the data.

Thanxs

						ABC

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From: dragon@angus.mi.org (John Lussmyer)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: CD-ROM: SCSI vs "other",fast vs slow,Mitsumi,MPC,formats ->?
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:18:48 GMT
Reply-To: dragon@angus.mi.org
Organization: North Star BBS

wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith) writes:

> Regarding the Mitsumi CD-rom drive...
> 
> 3) I found that a place (in computer shopper) called HI TECH was selling
>    a Mitsumi drive (Jan/93) for $169.  I called, and they no longer sell
>    that *particular* Mitsumi drive, but they have a better Mitsumi drive
>    (350 ms access time) for $195.  I know that there is a fast and slow
>    Mitsumi drive, and I have also read about the "order one kind of drive,
>    but get another (slower) drive instead" phenomena.  I guess that calls
>    for COD...

No do NOT use COD if you are worried about being robbed.  Use a Credit
Card if at all possible!  It is very easy to stop payment on a VISA for
a rip-off.  With COD the seller has your money before you can test the
thing you bought.

--
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North Star BBS, Royal Oak, MI --------------------------------------------+-
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Kodak price cuts on Photo CD
Date: 8 Jan 1993 02:59:52 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

From article <reuters.1167.62037@macsen.msen.com>

According to a Reuters wire story, Kodak announced retail price cuts
on its Photo CD players.  The cuts reduce MSRP to $379-$549 from the
previous range of $449-$649.

The announcement was made at CES in Vegas.  The marketing rep they
quote says they predict sales of 100,000 units in the first year
"if the pace continues".

No one pays list, right?  Not clear what the impact will be on street
prices.

  Edward Vielmetti, vice president for research, Msen Inc. emv@Msen.com
        Msen Inc., 628 Brooks, Ann Arbor MI  48103 +1 313 998 GLOB
Reuters news wire available via the net - contact info@msen.com for details 

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: leffler@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Bob Leffler)
Subject: Future Domain & Photo CD
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:48:22 GMT


After just sending my NEC CDR-84 back to NEC to get the Photo CD
updgrade, I've found some very unpleasant news. (I might add that the
NEC upgrade took 4 days and NEC paid the Fedex charges and the upgrade
was free.  I'm very happy with NEC's support.)  When I still couldn't
read the Photo CD, I gave Future DOmain a call.  The tech support person
stated that their cd drivers don't support Photo CD.  Needless to say, I
was upset, since that was a question I asked Future DOmain
before I bought the card.

Looks like I'll have to go get a NEC/Trantor scsi card if I want to read
the Photo CD disks.
From: mwk20@ccc.amdahl.com (Michael W Knowles)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: QUESTION: Software Protection on CD-ROMs
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:34:17 GMT
Reply-To: mwk20@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Michael W Knowles)
Distribution: alt
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In the process of publishing our technical publications on
CD-ROMs, I've been asked if we can somehow put our field
(internal use) information on the same CDs with customer
(non-protected) information.  We'd ideally use some sort of
field password that our field personnel would use to access
the field-only info.

I've heard of various companies using similar schemes (Adobe
and Microsoft come to mind), but I'm looking for vendors
who actually offer such protective software.

Suggestions?  Pointers?  Thanks...

Michael
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From: tvern.esae@xerox.com (Tom Vernier)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Sony 8012 CDROM Drivers needed!
Keywords: Sony,drivers,MS-Windows 3.1
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:33:51 GMT
Reply-To: tvern.esae@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation, El Segundo CA

Hello netters,

I am looking for a .sys driver for msdos/Windows 3.1 for the Sony model 8012 cdrom drive. This drive is the same drive used by Sun in their cdrom peripheral. I have the model 512 driver, but, alas, it doesn't work. I tried an archie search on sony, but no luck, and I can't get through to the 800 number for sony. any pointers would be much appreciated.

thanks in advance,

tom vernier
xerox corporation
From: merlin@neuro.usc.edu (merlin)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Specifications on Toshiba XM3201B CD ROM Drive
Date: 7 Jan 1993 01:12:10 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuro.usc.edu

Could someone email me the specs on this drive?  Also, does anyone
know where to get DOS (MSCDEX) driver for this drive.  It will be
connected to an 80386DX-33 via Adaptec 1542B.

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From: tcchang@mbox.ee.ncu.edu.tw (T.C.Chang)
Subject: What CD-ROM we customer need
Organization: Inst. EECS. in National Central University, Taiwan, R.O.C.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:04:55 GMT


  In this forlume,  much of us are consigering the spec of the CD-ROM, but
we are always limited by the manufactures who made the low-quantity but high-
price machines.  Now I think we customer should post our need and openions to
the manufactures what we need, and request openion from other custom :

  1.It should be fast, most current machines have just 350+ms accesstime, 
    in comparison with the HD, why the tech of CD-ROM can't impromovement.
    
  2.The data transfer rate shoule at least larger than 150K at worst. As 
    new tech in data-compression like DVI....., the 150K is too danger to
    provide the service of vision apps.  Someone may says that 150K is 
    fast enough for the data and audio, but we should consider, if you 
    need Audio, the CD-ROM is saled in computer shop, not electrical inst
    or departmentstore.  And the performance of HD or r/w optical disk are
    much better in data processing.  New multimedia should consider the 
    video apps.

  3.We need candyless machine!  Why we should endure the inconvinence of
    exchange the CD from the candy, and the price for candy is additional
    cost for the media.

  4.The lower price is the most important,  all the good quantity CDs are
    too expensive, especially the SCSI type.  The US$400-700 can buy TWO
    audio-CDs, even they have control pannel and remote control.

The above is what I think we should request for the manufacture, any openino
welcome, even popost.
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