From: mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk (Kirk Potter)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Bare-skin hooligans (was Drugs in Britian)
Date: 13 Nov 92 13:57:52 GMT
Organization: should be a Uni!! Stuff the tories!!!

In article <1992Nov12.152555.6346@gssec.bt.co.uk>, squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk (Stephen Quigg) writes:
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> In article <1992Nov11.123813.1267@dct.ac.uk>, mcsbc3ktp@dct.ac.uk (Kirk Potter) writes:
> |> In article <BxII6v.5zJ@dcs.ed.ac.uk>, djts@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Sumpter) writes:
> |> >
> |> [Drug info deleled] 
> |> > BUT, there are bad sides to all drugs, and the unaddictive ones still cause people to
> |> > be iratable when not on them if they use too much for too long. But, they are a damm
> |> > sight better than what often goes on in Scotland. ie. Drinking 10 pints and smashing
> |> > a pint glass in someones face.
> |> > 
> |> > David
> |> 
> |> Excuse me but your reference to Scotland is slightly unfounded....Who has the
> |> hooligans and lager louts that disgrace their country every time they go abroad?
> |> Certainly not Scottish people my friend........
> |> 
> |> Grow a brain please......
> |> 
> |> We have the best behaed football fans in Europe...if not the world....!!
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> Who the hell cares about football fans , that's not what Dave is talking about ,
> he's talking about the "shirts-off-raving-i'm-raving" movement that has sprung
> up in Scotland over the last couple of years , and completely destroyed the
> whole dance scene... witness not being allowed to leave the Sub Club one night
> "for your own safety " said the doormen , and all because Tin Pan Alley was
> coming out at that time , paragon of people with eye's blackened by drugs , no
> top on , or tied to waist , and jumping in their cars to go and smoke hash while
> talking about how many E thay had that night ....
> 
> Maybe this appeals to you , I don't know , but it destroyed it for me ...... all
> the raves left in Scotland are an utter disgrace , witness Holocaust etc ....
> The good old days of Slam I and Slam II raves are over , my friend , and it
> looks as if they might never come back .....
> 
> Stephen Quigg
> squigg@gssec.bt.co.uk 
> British Telecom , GSSEC , Glasgow
> (Nothing in any of my mail represents my Employer in any way)

Well Stephen I think I should defend myself here.....yeah ok...the other guy
was talking about anti-drugs and not anti-Scotland...I agree....the point I was
trying to make (and maybe didn't make a very good job of it)....was that the 
idea that people who use alcohol to excess end up causing a barney all the time
and that is simply not true.....(including the reference to Scotland in 
particular)....

I do agree whole-heartedly with your comments regarding the ****heads with
their t-shirts around their wastes and ECSTACY written across their chests
(yes some people are stupid enough to do that!)......

On a different note...

A lot of the tabloids have been saying that the Rave scene is dying....
maybe to the average punter who likes K.W.S. and any other CRAP commercial
bands...but really it is just going back underground, where it started and
where it belongs....then maybe the pissheads will stay at home....cause they
won't know where the raves are!!!

Long live the illegal raves in a field somewhere....much more fun.....
Yeah its great to have big raves with all the top PAs....but it does mean
that you let in the general riff-raff.....I think the attendance at Holocaust
was something in the region of 12-15 thousand (correct me if I am wrong!)..
How many of them were genuine lovers of dance music......??

I rest my case.....

KIRK

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