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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Hooray! Wombat's fixed.
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I still haven't heard what the problem was but this morning when I logged on
there were 666 messages waiting for me which might give a clue to what the
problem has been.:-) Of course, I was 100% over logged out quota and it has
taken me nearly all day to sort that out, but I did it without having to delete
any email that I didn't check that I had seen first.... and Chris reckoned
this morning that I couldn't do it and should just type in 'delete 1-666'.
It turned out that not only wasn't I getting list mail, I also wasn't getting
other email as well, including private stuff.... so those of you who sent me
test messages thank you, but I guess you realised before me that it wasn't
working. The double check with CC revealed that I am now up to date and haven't
missed anything. Thanks for bearing with me.

Carolyn
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:33:21 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Asians
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> By way of wiley digression, what is the appropriate name for a
> resident of the western hemisphere (North or South America) ?

To me, the appropriate name is American.  I don't know why Europeans
(and some Canadians) insist on using that term in a narrower sense.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Asians
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              Jan 25, 93 12:46 am

> I had always thought asians=orientals, but did a mental double-take
> when I saw eastern-mediterranean peoples being referred to as "wily
> orientals" -- and after all, where do most "oriental rugs" originate?

Don't forget the destination of the "Orient Express" - Istanbul, (right ?)
which is definitely Eastern mediterranean.

-rashmi
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From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
Subject: Re: signoff
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:50:18 GMT

G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK> writes:

>        quibbles of lexicon if not a concern for words? And which "civilised
>        rules" do you see as being violated?

>        Jim (always curious) Thomas

>Oh come on Jim: the one which says 'thou shalt not mock my religion'

Oops--sorry, Graham. But, I always thought that was one of our 
attributes rather than a violation.

Jim (more tolerant of most religions than they are of me) Thomas

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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: list of public access sites
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Try usenet group alt.internet.services, and look for the file PDIAl
(which I think i gave to Natalie once to put in the archives)

I can't conveniently access it at the moment I'm afraid.

G
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Subject:      Re: Yet Another Holiday Report.
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Posted on 24 Jan 1993 at 21:30:46 by Adrian Hall
>> And the next installment is going to be entitled WHTMID....
>WHTMID?
>Fiz the dense this morning (night)

My guess is that Graham was being discreet!  WHTMID probably
stands for What Happened To Me In Dorothy. <Loud sigh.> Jet
lag is a terrible thing....

Karen
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re:      Re: Where were you 15 years ago today?
Originator: rita@eff.org
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:05:31 GMT


	Now WAIT just a gosh-darned minute here.  The blizzard of '78
was in February.



-- 
Net.Personality for hire.                       Will Post for Food.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:25:58 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Don't laugh, but

>Huh?  Oh, I get it.  You ask someone a question and then delete that
>person's reply unread.

What's the use of your saying this, Rashmi? We know it already and she
isn't going to read it.

tsuhar
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:37:00 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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> > Pleasant.  I don't think it's ever really humid in NC.  And if we're in the
> > mountainy areas, it will be cool.  (Not cold like RI, but cool.)
> I disagree, Natalie.  To me at least it is very humid -- and even ggs admitted
> it was hot.  If for no other reason of the weather, I vote we not got to NC.

It's a matter of perspective.  People here find North Alabama cool in the
summer.  And when I moved to Knoxville in August 1974, I found it amazingly
cool.  I remember coming back here and laughing about how people in Kville
thought it was "hot" if it got above 90.  Although I *adored* last year's
clambake, think about how absolutely perfect it would have been if it had
been warm enough to swim.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     Pisces -- always happiest in water...
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Subject: Re: Buddism (was Re: Asians)
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:07:58
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In-reply-to: Bandwidth Pig's message of Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:04:15 -0600

Harwell harps:

   On Wed, 27 Jan 1993, Anne Haycock wrote:

   > if the thunder don't getcha, then the lightening will!"--jerry garcia
					   ^^^^^^^^^^

   What does that burned out old hippy know about giving birth?

Nothin', but that once hippy hippie knows about shedding 60+ pounds.

	//anne, damn i spelled it right the first time//
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Internet-Bitnet
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do ls -l /etc/sendmail.cf  and see when it was lasted edited.  I think someone
has been upgrading your mailer...

G
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Shirt.gif
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On Thu, 21 Jan 1993, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> How is "athletic gray" different from "light gray"?

Athletic gray is cool. Light gray is wimpy.

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:33:07 EST
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Subject:      Re: Interesting Sociolinguistic Tidbit
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Posted on 28 Jan 1993 at 15:20:14 by Natalie Maynor
>an insult.  "If there were a !Kung equivalent of 'wienie' it would be a
>compliment, since small-to-moderate penis size is valued (Shostak 1983)."

So we should start recommending to men w/ small hands that they move to
Botswana?

Karen, remembering the various colors Frank turned as he carefully sat on
his hands....
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: a couple of points
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        What is the accepted convention for Turkey?  Asia or europe?

I suspect the Euroeans call it Asia and the Asians call it Europe ;-)

G
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From:         Elaine M Brennan <ELAINE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Don't laugh, but
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-abh said:
>
>Don't laugh, but
>
>...what is an ampallang? Karsten, I need help here...
>
>-abh

it's a piercing (sometimes referred to as an "exotic piercing") -- you want
more info, you know where to find me !

Elaine
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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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>I've had it suggested to me that subscribing to WORDS-L could be comnsidered
>an abuse of resources because it breaks proper list etiquette by allowing
>use of the list for virtually personal conversation and in the process puts
>very undue strain on the systems of the subscribers. Supposedly personal
>conversations should happen between individuals through their own accounts,
>and not be broadcast to all members of the list.
>
>I pass this on as information, and not as a criticism on my part. WORDS-L
>is great intellectual exercise, even under all the mud wrestling, but
>its traffic is overwhelming.
>
>Peter

Peter, dear, there are probably at least twice the number of truly
personal conversations between subscribers taking place off-list
as are happening on WORDS-L.  If you think what we broadcast is dull,
you should read the *rest* of it!!!

love, judith
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
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From: Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>

> I have noticed that an ex-whore is almost always the first to speak out
> against prostitution.
> -abh

Honi soit qui mal y pense.

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Peter
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From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Thanks for the words
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Posted on 27 Jan 1993 at 06:27:57 by Natalie Maynor

>             It's well known that Brits and (apparently) Aussies think
>that jumpers are sweaters, whereas we in the U.S. know that jumpers are
>dresses worn over jerseys or blouses.  (I'm not sure about Canadian use
>of the term.  Tony?  Peter?)

In passing I should mention that I think this is a "women's word", i.e.
I would not use it even though I recognize it.

I grew up with the English usage, but my parents were English (a famous
Olde Englishe name is Harminc), so it doesn't count.  Is US jumper related
to US jump suit ?  And where does jump suit come from
but it's for jumping out of planes in.  The female outfit is similarly
constructed, but most wearers don't jump in them.

Tony H.
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: The Salmonbake Uprising
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        Such a MasterBake I could make.  Everyone could send abh or Natalie a
        picture of him/herself, which could then be included in a message in suc
h
        a way that each one takes up one screen.  As the pictures appear on the
        screen, everyone could pause in their daily (or nightly) activities and
        think intensely about the spirit/soul/karma/etc behind the picture.  And
        for those of us who are gif-impaired, Tushar can draw likenesses of
        everyone which will be included in an alternative message.

I beg your pardon Doris?  i don't think you've quite <grasped the point> of
this...  I think abh's idea is that we re-run that international event that
some of us participated in last year (Sorry I missed you Elaine, I think
I was on the phone at the time...) with a more encompassing distribution.

G
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From:         BZ <TSBZALESKI@CC.WEBER.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Betty's Entertainment Question
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>"What Everly Brothers song was banned in Boston?"

>Get this one right and there's only Art/Literature to go.

I don't have any idea.  I guess I'm out of easy categories.
I think the Everly Brothers were before my time.

bz
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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Maya's poem
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:36:40 GMT

 G> Yes, you've gone way over the usual time limit for this sort of stuff.
 G> There's nothing clever or impressive in knowing something obscure that
 G> you just happen to have to hand.  Time to tell us or forget about it...

They Might Be Giants, "Mammal".  From _Apollo 18_.
--
 * Christopher Davis * <ckd@eff.org> * <ckd@kei.com> * [CKD1] * MIME * RIPEM *
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Subject:      licensing baboons

Greetings,

A colleague has raised a provocative question: Can baboons in Pennsylvania
obtain driver's licenses?  If not, how do they sign the "Anatomical Gift"
form?

Marty
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From:         JOEP@LAGUNA.EPCC.EDU
Subject:      Re: Don't laugh, but

    -abh said:  "What is an ampallang?  Karsten..."

    Elaine said:  "It's a piercing....an exotic piercing. If you want
      more info, you know where to find me."

    E-layyyiinne, where are you?

    How about about another hint?

    Joe P.(not knowing whether to flinch and say <ouch> at this point.)
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Round 4
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Science
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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        Ruth, tch, tch. The spelling I used is the U.S. one as in Am. Her.
        As for the other spelling, it's just like the bloody pommie bastards
        to dip a thong where it doesn't belong.

You mean diph a thong, no doubt?

G
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Gleanings (76)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:07:58 GMT
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In a previous article, g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (G) says:

>        3) Thunderbird ==  is a really *cheap* wine, was about 50 cents a
>           bottle when I was a youngster, when my friends and I would
>
>Shall I mourn your decline with some Thunderbird wine and a white handkerchief?
>
I wouldn't do that if I were you, Grahammie; one swig of that stuff would
kill off any taste buds you may have left after all those years of London
food.[damned sassenachs can't cook worth a darn...even my cornish great-granny
agreed with *that*]  If it didn't kill your sense of taste, you'd wish
it had.....

Forget the white hankie too; it's too... too... innocent an affectation for
someone like a Wordsler to bring off.  Use a red bandana and some Lone Star
beer instead.

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Yet Another Holiday Report
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>If I posted my mutterings to every post on this list, it would
>douvble in volume overnight.
>
>Adrian

You shouldn't let that stop you..... why do you think this list has such
high volume anyway? Isn't it because everyone posts their mutterings?

Carolyn
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Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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>
>P.S. Two people yesterday sent notes saying things like "I vote for
>Portland."  I counted those as #1's (=8) for Portland.  SHould I assume
>that all other sites on the list were voted "no" by those people?

Yes, for me anyway. its portland or nuffin'. i will have just moved
my entire life out there and i doubt i'll be able to rustle up the
cash to go fly to some hot humid mosqueto-y boot-camp locale.

love,
Jenna
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Round 4
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>Science

Sorry abh, but the S stands for sport not science which you already have..
What else would you like?

Carolyn
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Posted on 21 Jan 1993 at 12:57:45 by Rashmi
>Karen, did the T shirt place have Beefy-Ts as well?  The athletic gray looks
>great in the thicker quality.

I know they were heavy all-cotton; I don't remember the brand. Pretty
much every color is available.  Raspberry got the largest number of votes,
but Mama made noises about that.  Teal is fine by me.  You know, they
must have been Hai/ynes (I don't know, it looks weird any way I spell it!)
because I wouldn't consider buying anything but the best for Words-l!

I can try to remember to check.

Karen
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        Something seems amiss in Netdom today.  Everything appears to be up
        and running, but mail is sluggish.  I suspect net golbins -- oops --

No-one has anything to say.  We all realized at the same time that
words-l is now totally semantics-free and all decided to shut up.

        that was supposed to say goblins, not golbins.  I wonder if a cross
        between a goblin and a galmin is a golbin.  And why can't I make
        backspace work on pizzabox, Graham?

Because real computers use DELete.

G
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
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> But Johnson was almost always lying.  I thought of Ford, but it
> sounded like an odd thing to say after the Nixon affair.
> --ggs

Why, br. giggles - this from you?  Then we do agree on something political.
Sr. doris
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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:In article <01GTU436RTV6001B2Q@camins.Camosun.BC.CA> Peter Montgomery
:<MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA> writes:

:>Interesting what does and does not get a response from participants.

:        Indeed.  Netiquette is a subtle thing to understand, and
:varies from electronic community to electronic community.

Peter's point was meta-etiquette, in that his sysman seemed to think
that the whole words-l list was inappropriate to Peter's university;
the signature question was local to the group itself.  Anyway, no-one
told him to change it.  We merely pointed out that he'd be taken for
an asshole if he left it.  As it turns out, it wouldn't have made
any difference.

G
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
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From: EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU

> People on this list make their own decisions about how to handle the
> high traffic.  A large nb. of people read all the postings.  Some
>
> This is a fact of e-life, that's one's postings must be overly clear.

Both statements are quite valid, and seem to me to support
the idea that netiquette is not necessarily subtle.

>>WORDS-L is only VERY secondarily what its name would suggest
>>it is about. If it were called BABBLE-L or even TOWER-OF-BABBLE-L,
>>the absence of civilised rules would make sense. As it stands, that
>>absence seems somewhat silly.
>
> So does your presence.
>
> Karen

Fair enough. I never claimed to be anything but a clown.
That doesn't obviate the arguement that the name WORDS-L is misleading.
A list which really did restrict itself to dealing with words,
would find a much different kind of participation on my part.
As long as WORDS-L isn't interested in following civilised rules,
then it shouldn't expect my participation (or anybody else's for
that matter) to be anything else than uncivilised.

Peter
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