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From: cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: ownership
Date: 30 Dec 92 12:19:29 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <7695@dove.nist.gov>, livigni@bldrdoc.gov (David livigni 303-497-5898) writes:
> 
> A quick question about ownership...
> 
> A while ago, I thought I heard on CNN that Disney is the only
> remaining major U.S. movie studio that is not owned by the
> Japanese.  Can anyone confirm or deny this statement?  A friend
> says it is wrong, he claims MGM and 20th Century Fox are also
> American owned...
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> David Livigni
> livigni@bldrdoc.gov
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Alright, I'll try to list all of the major Hollywood film companies and
who owns them.  (I'm sure you'll all let me know if I leave a company
out, right?)

Universal/MCA - Japanese
Columbia/Tri-Star - Japanese
Twentieth Century Fox - Australian
MGM/UA (& Canon) - French or Italian (So much confusion with them lately)
Warner Bros. - Partly owned by two Japanese companies
Disney - An American company!
Paramount - An American company!
Orion (assuming they really do recover) - An American company!

And with Paramount having like 3 billion dollars in cash, and Disney
having like 2 billion dollars in cash, I don't think we'll see them
get bought out easily.


John Heiden
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From: lorrayne@smiley.mitre.org (Lorrayne Schaefer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Jessica Rabbit Store?
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:43:26 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA


A friend of mine is a big Jessica Rabbit fan.  He has been trying to
find a store that features Jessica Rabbit goodies.  Does anyone know
of such a store? or of a shop that has lots of Jessica Rabbit things?
He tried various shops at Disneyland and Disneyworld (and I believe
EuroDisney) and struck out.  He also asked at a few Disney Stores with
no luck.

He travels a lot so location probably isn't an issue.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Lorrayne Schaefer
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From: hofbauer@csri.toronto.edu (John Hofbauer)
Subject: Re: Video Releases
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:08:14 GMT

>> Sorry, I'm just diappointed that Buena Vista decided to delay Sleep.
>> I did hear from a source that the print for Sleep is in bad shape
>> and that they are probably going to restore it or something.
>
> It's possible that the movie as a whole might be ravaged by time
> (it's not all that old, though), but the print used for the trailer
> on the Beauty and the Beast tape looks fine.

Sleeping Beauty was done in 1959, the only Disney film in 70mm.
I'm sure it's in fine shape. I personally suspect that Disney is
advancing the Snow White re-release to set the stage for a mega
video release in the spirit of Fantasia and Beauty and the Beast.
Can you say 20,000,000 video cassettes and $x per?  Disney ain't
no fools when it comes to making money.
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Aladdin references
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 06:31:50 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

People magazine had a nice article about the guy who did the voice of
Aladdin.  I don't remember which issue, but there was a picture of Aladdin
along the top of the cover, so it should be easy enough to spot--it was
in the last few weeks.

There's also the half hour "Making of" program that's running on the
Disney Channel.  There, for example, we get to see Will Finn do the Gilbert
Gottfried impression that another magazine reported was driving his fellow
animators to distraction.

Oh...there have also been some good pieces in both Starlog and Comics Scene,
(the latter published by Starlog).
Xref: sparky rec.arts.disney:7644 rec.video.releases:3972
From: johnz@informix.com (John Zucchero)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,rec.video.releases
Subject: Disney LaserDisc Info
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:16:12 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

You are correct, Alice in Wonderland and The Sword in the Stone are CLV ONLY!
Just recently, they were also remastered for SOUND only (i.e. they are Digital
Sound).

As for 101 Dalmations---we can only wait and hope. My guess is March.

Pinocchio will be out in both CLV and CAV on March 28th.

The BIG news: Mary Poppins and 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea will be release
January 28th in LETTERBOXED format! Both include lots of extras (but I have
no idea what they are) and are priced at $69.99 each! They will be part of
the "Disney Exclusive Archive Collection," manufactured by Voyager and
distributed through Image Entertainment. This is the start of a new [money-
making] program by Disney. Perhaps Lady and the Tramp, Sleeping Beauty, Beauty
and the Beast, and others are on the horizon?

Also being release is The Absent Minded Professor in its old Black & White
format, on 1/28/93 also.

--John
From: chuq@Apple.COM (Crow's Friend Timmy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Just Saw Alladin...
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:02:03 GMT
Organization: Next Thursday A.D.

brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:

>Let's not forget that spoiler warning for those who haven't seen Aladdin yet
>(poor souls, with no one left to turn to)
>

>Others can correct me here if I'm wrong, but that's exactly the reaction you
>are supposed to have to his actions there.

Bingo. You have to have a "well, kids, I'm going to act like a shoothead for
a while so when I get better everyone will like me even more" subplot.
Besides, if he DOESN'T do it, the movie is about half an hour short.

>>2) I was laughing at Robin Williams, but wonder if 20 years from now the
>>references will be understood.  I doubt it.

The topicality of the references might be a problem, but on the other hand,
how many kids laugh at the Bugs Bunny cartoons with all of the caricatures
in them? Or where he and the gremlin make gasoline-rationing jokes?

>>3) Can we get a woman who doesn't look like Belle/Ariel/EveryOtherWoman?

>The animation style is similar, but I didn't really notice this as much as
>some others have.

She's actually rather different (all three have some significant drawing
differences, in fact), but there are some inherent limitations to face
drawing that create tradeoffs between the ability to create expression and
faces that tend to look alike (my guess is Rick's complaining about the
style of the eyes and etc...). 

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From: sroka@evax.gdc.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Hidden Mickey on WDW TV Spot
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:40:48 GMT
Organization: General DataComm, Middlebury CT

Rich Koster writes:
> There is a new "Be Our Guest" commercial for WDW which premiered on
> the Very Merry Christmas parade from WDW on Christmas morning (but
> it has been running on network TV since then, too).
>  
> In the scene where the kid has his Mickey doll on the bed with him
> as he's about to drift off to sleep, the camera pans over to the
> resort room window which has a view of the castle.
>  
> Look at the clouds to the left of the castle as the fireworks are
> going off.  You'll see a Hidden Mickey cloud near the castle!
> 
Ohhhh. You are really getting into the 'Find the Hidden Mickey' spirit. In my
last visit to WDW a couple of weeks ago, even the most boring ride (no I won't
tell what I think it is) is interesting again when looking for the Hidden
Mickeys.

   Rick, I'll add your 'find' to the list I have. BTW I add all of the posts or
E-MAILed hidden Mickeys to my list. I'll try to re-post this list once a month
or so. If you haven't seen the list yet, you will soon.

   Thanks again to all of those out there who have helped me with the list.

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From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Parade
Date: 26 Dec 92 21:50:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.1hik42INNkt1
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdcc13.ucsd.edu

In article <1hhts0INN4u3@network.ucsd.edu> rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
>The program seemed to focus mainly on Regis Philbin's big mouth,
>Joan Lundon's Disney misconceptions, Jon Davidson's big hair, and
>Ed McMahan's preference for harem girls. :-)
>
>In short, it was pretty boring.

What a sourpuss I've become!  I forgot to mention the highlights!

There was a little Zip-a-Dee-Doo-Da number with the opening of
Splash Mountain (pre-recorded, of course).  It was corny, but in a
very Disney sort of way.  That is, there was no water initially
(oh, no!) and one of the bears went up and "fixed" it.

There was also a peek at Mickey's Toontown at Disneyland.  The
coaster and trolley were apparently operational.  Looks like a
neat place, but mostly for smaller children.  I heard no mention of
any in-progress simulator rides in Toontown.


- Robert Cook
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: lad9452@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: ? Voices for 101 Dalmatians
Reply-To: lad9452@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 03:44:25 GMT

I just got done watching 101 Dalmatians.  No credits at the end, so I re-ran
the start of the video, but alas, no mention of who does the voices.

In particular, I am interested in knowing who is Cruella DeVille (it sounds
like Bette Davis) and the maid (sounds like Angela Lansbury).

Please respond via e-mail.  Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Jessica Rabbit Store?
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:41:29 PST
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield
Keywords: Toontown

In article <1992Dec21.154326.23687@linus.mitre.org> lorrayne@smiley.mitre.org (
Lorrayne Schaefer) writes:
>
>A friend of mine is a big Jessica Rabbit fan.  He has been trying to
>find a store that features Jessica Rabbit goodies.  Does anyone know
>of such a store? or of a shop that has lots of Jessica Rabbit things?
>He tried various shops at Disneyland and Disneyworld (and I believe

Tell him to check Toontown when he gets to Disneyland next (anytime after
January 1993).  There's bound to be stuff there.

>Lorrayne Schaefer

Jennifer
Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka
Hey, Jennifer!  You just spent 13 glorious hours at Disneyland!  Now what are 
you gonna do?!?
Sort a few more envelopes and bake cookies.  Boy!  The excitement never ends.
Harvey (Buster's Guardian Toon Angel): "Disturbing, isn't it?"
Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka
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From: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Subject: rec.arts.disney
Reply-To: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:20:59 GMT


I've been reading this newsletter for a couple of months now
and I've got to say that the vast majority of those posting
and responding are a bunch of NICE people.  Even criticism is
presented in a polite manner.  Thanks!

-Carl

"AAAAAHHHHHHaaaaahhhhh........!"-Last line in Gaston's script
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From: livigni@bldrdoc.gov (David livigni 303-497-5898)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: ownership
Keywords: ownership japanese
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:14:29 GMT


A quick question about ownership...

A while ago, I thought I heard on CNN that Disney is the only
remaining major U.S. movie studio that is not owned by the
Japanese.  Can anyone confirm or deny this statement?  A friend
says it is wrong, he claims MGM and 20th Century Fox are also
American owned...

Thanks in advance

David Livigni
livigni@bldrdoc.gov
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:05:46 EST
From: Lisa McClellan <MXM144@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Lady and the Tramp .. VHS

Hi!  Does anyone know if Lady and The Tramp is still available
for sale on vhs and if so where it can be purchased
Thanks.  :)

Melissa McClellan -Programmer CBEL-Teaching & Learning Technologies Group

mclellan@crayola.cs.psu.edu           mxm144@psuvm.psu.edu
mclellan@cs.psu.edu                   mxm144@ncc1701.psu.edu
From: johnz@informix.com (John Zucchero)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Mickey's Very Merry Christmas Parade
Date: 29 Dec 92 04:14:11 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Did anybody tape the parade on Christmas day? If so, could I trade
something of mine for a copy of it?

Thanks in advance,

John Zucchero
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Subject: Narration @ beginning of B&tB
Reply-To: ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:49:06 GMT


Does anybody know who does the narration at the beginning of
B&tB?

Thanks!

"I use antlers in all of my decorating!"-Gaston

-Carl
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From: mross@crowe.seas.ucla.edu (Mark J. Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Hiawatha new Disney Movie?
Date: 23 Dec 92 01:10:36 GMT
Organization: LASERAMA, usa

In article <BzKun2.7BM@babbage.ece.uc.edu> tmcbraye@thor.ece.uc.edu (Tim McBrayer) writes:
>In article <1h2i5cINNlkp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cg533@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James Eugene Alloway) writes:
>>
>>I had heard by word of mouth that Hiawatha was to be the next Disney film.
>
>Almost right--it's going to be "Pocahontas".  This is confirmed, not rumor.
>It's due out (I think) in early 1994.


I seem to recall that Disney did a short of Hiawatha about 50 years ago.
Time to look at the list of Disney's shorts again.

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From: Jenny.Lerew%bbs@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Jenny Lerew)
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 12:35:18 PST
Organization: Quake Public Access, San Fernando Valley, CA (818)362-6092
Subject: Disney Women:Face & Figure
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Jenny.Lerew%bbs@quake.sylmar.ca.us (Jenny Lerew)
X-Posting-Software: UniBoard 1.10a S/N 210921



It's interesting to read the reactions of fans of Disney Animation
re the design of the characters, particularly women.  The "eye
thing", in particular, seems to generate a lot of discussion. While
it's mostly a matter of drawing style and taste on the part of
the animators/character designers, giving a *main* character
like Belle, Ariel and Jasmine larger eyes also makes for more interest-
ing acting from the character--expressions read *much* more strongly
if the eyes are more noticable.
    Also, about those "knockers"--this is by no means a new trend at all.
Just yesterday, for example, the Disney Channel reran "Icabod", with
the catalystic character of the sexy Katrina(sp?), who was not only
well endowed ("plump as a partridge"), but wore a low-cut bodice as
well.  There's also Slue-Foot Sue, in Pecos Bill.  It really depends
on what the slant is on the character; what should the first impression
be that the audience gets: sexy? Or innocent? Or dreamy?, etc.
These characters are really very basic, direct design shapes--each
curve is a symbol the viewer should have a reaction to, in one way
or another.  In the case of a female character, there's a lot of
ways to go with this.  

In case this sounds like a sexist evaluation, it isn't. I'm a woman
and an animator, and I've designed and studied model sheets of 
several different types of female characters.  Artists start
out thinking of the most recognizable, basic symbols when designing
anything--THEN go on to get (hopefully) a real performance--a real
PERSON--out of the character--no matter what her bust size,etc.
From: gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Two D's, Two S's, and Three emothions
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:03:01 GMT
Organization: Hog's Breath is Better than No Breath at All.

In article <1992Dec23.143144.15943@ils.nwu.edu> holyoak@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Douglas Holyoak) writes:
>Okay, I'm stuck.  What are the names of the seven dwarves from Snow White?
>
>I seem to recall that some were named Dopey, Grumpy, Sneezy, and Sleepy. 
>Am I correct so far?  Whom am I forgetting?
>
Ok, there are two D's, two S's, and three emotions - 

D's:	Dopey
	Doc
	
S's:	Sleepy
	Sneezy
	
others:	Grumpy
	Happy
	Bashful


Got it!?!?!?

Scott


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From: maggie@ee.ualberta.ca (Maggie Yee Man Pong)
Subject: REQUEST: info on Pocahontas
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:55:18 GMT

Can anyone out there tell me more about Pocahontas?  What's the story 

about?  All I know is that it has a sad ending!

Thanks!

maggie
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Mickey's Nutcracker
Distribution: world
Date: 29 Dec 92 07:10:54 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

My favorite part of Mickey's Nutcracker is when Roger Rabbit comes out and
sings:
 
Living in the land of candy,
How it breaks my heart when any tooth is lost.
Everything is sweet here!
Candy's all we eat here!
So its up to me to see each tooth is brushed and flossed!
 
Living in the land of candy,
People say your toothbrush is your closest chum.
It'll reach way back there!
Break up all the plaque there!
Finding every snack there -- nothing stops it, nothing tops it
For removing bits of sugarplum
And every cookie crumb
From tooth and gum.
 
Living in the land of candy,
After every meal we go the extra mile!
Brushing like we oughta --
Everybody's gotta
Sweet, sweet smile!

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From: victoro@crash.cts.com (Victor O'Rear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney Jobs - Did anyone see my earler posting?
Date: 25 Dec 92 04:07:50 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

Based on previous interest in Disney Imagineering jobs I'm suprised I recieved no
responce by mail or in this group to my extensive listing of job openings at WDI.
Did they not get posted?
From: pabakke@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Peter Bakke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Passes for WDW in FLa
Date: 31 Dec 92 00:45:13 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

For people on longer visits where you may be visiting the parks 7 or
more days, you should consider an annual pass. They were less than
$200 with a MKC card.
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Hidden Mickey
Distribution: world
Date: 25 Dec 92 18:06:49 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

There's another Hidden Mickey in WDW's Splash Mountain.  It is
probably more noticeable in the daytime, but just as you're about
to come out of the cave and then drop down the big slide, the rocks
on the left make a silhouette against the sky of Mickey's nose and
smiling mouth in profile -- a very large profile!

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From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Hidden Mickey update
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:36:36 GMT
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

I didn't catch any of the others, because I forgot my list.
But, I did go on Splash Mountain, and I don't think there is a scene where
"(on your right) where the fox and bear are projected on a screen running
over a hill, the HM appears at the very end of the projection."
And I don't remember seeing this last year when I went either.  I rode Splash
Mountain several times then.

Jennifer
Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka
Hey, Jennifer!  You just spent 13 glorious hours at Disneyland!  Now what are 
you gonna do?!?
Sort a few more envelopes and bake cookies.  Boy!  The excitement never ends.
Harvey (Buster's Guardian Toon Angel): "Disturbing, isn't it?"
Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka_wakka_Wakka
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From: dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Newsies Poster available
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 20:05:34 GMT


I have a couple "Newsies" posters, if interested, please e-mail.

:>
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From: clawton@tfs.com (Chris Lawton)
Subject: Parade
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 05:10:51 GMT



	I set my VCR for 10:00am (ABC) this Christmas morning and all
I got was an hour of a football game! :(  Anybody want to tell me about 
the parade and what I missed?  I was pretty disappointed when I saw what
I did get.

	Thanks...

	Chris Lawton		I'm not that debonnair,
	Oakland, CA		I'm just a silly hare.
	clawton@TFS.com		If you want class, I'll have to pass,
				So go get Fred Astair!
				
				Roger Rabbit (Roger's Song) -
				Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
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From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 22:39:32 GMT
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Subject: Re: Hidden Mickey on WDW TV Spot
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure
Keywords: 

Hey!  I just found a hidden Mickey!!!  It's in sroka@evax.gdc.com's
signature:

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