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From: Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen)
Subject: Opening Ceremonies for AIDS Memorial Quilt Postponed to Oct. 10
Organization: NDA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 05:54:48 GMT


Here is a press release from the NAMES Project.

 Opening Ceremonies for AIDS Memorial Quilt Postponed to Oct. 10
 To: Assignment Desk, Daybook Editor
 Contact: Stacy MacLean of The Rowland Co., 415-512-3512,
          or The NAMES Project, 202-296-2637 (202-29-NAMES)

   News Advisory:

   More than 300,000 celebrities, volunteers, AIDS activists and
and panel makers from around the world will assemble in Washington,
Oct. 10-11, in one of the largest mobilizations ever to draw
attention to AIDS.
   The centerpiece of this mobilization is the NAMES Project AIDS
Memorial Quilt, which will be displayed on the grounds of the
Washington Monument.  The quilt, comprised of more than 20,000 panels
representing persons who have died of AIDS, weighs 30 tons and will
cover an area equivalent to 12 football fields.

   Who:    The NAMES Project AIDS Memorial Quilt

   What:   The International Display of the quilt and a series of
           events including conferences, concerts, theater
           performances and informational talks on AIDS-related
           issues.

  Where:   The grounds of the Washington Monument

   When:   Saturday, Oct. 10 -- 10 a.m. to 6 p.m. Opening Ceremonies

           Among those scheduled to participate in the traditional
           reading of the names are: Tipper Gore; Leanza Cornett,
           1992 Miss America; Dr. Antonia Novello, surgeon general
           of the U.S.; Liza Minelli, actress; Lily Tomlin,
           actress; Sharon Pratt Kelly, mayor of Washington;
           Rep. Pat Schroeder; Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of
           the National Institute of Allergy & Infectious
           Diseases; and Mary Fisher and Bob Hattoy who spoke
           at the Republican and Democratic conventions.

           6:30 - Candlelight march begins at the Ellipse

           Sunday, Oct. 11 -- 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.  Closing Ceremonies

    Details:
    Laid on America's front yard three weeks before the
presidential election, the quilt will call the world's attention to
the escalating AIDS epidemic.  The display in Washington will take
place in conjuction with an enormous gathering of AIDS-related
service organizations.  The quilt's International Display will
include panels from 18 countries, providing a unique forum for
HIV/AIDS education and prevention and helping to raise public
awareness and revitalize volunteerism.  Celebrities, AIDS activists
and panel makers will be available to speak with the media about
their personal experiences with the AIDS pandemic.
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From: 76330.3412@CompuServe.COM ("John M. Sulak")
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: EDN poll shows 16% other, yet only Rs & Ds were able to answer!
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:37:41 GMT

The latest issue of EDN (Electronic Design News) includes an article by 
Kate Colburn, called, "EEs ask the presidential candidates". Readers,
mainly Electrical Engineers or EEs, were asked to provide questions that 
they would like to ask the presidential candidates. The request was in the
June 25, 1992 issue. In this issue, dated October 8, 1992, Ms. Colborn
includes responses from George Bush and Bill Clinton, but none from
Representative Andre Marrou.

Interestingly, the article includes a graph showing the reader response to
a question that was asked of the readers while they submitted questions
for the presidential candidates. The question reads, "What party did you
vote for in the last election?" The graph shows, "Republican 60%,
Democratic 24%, Other 16%".

The article itself never mentions the Libertarian Party, or even the
"Other 16%", it only mentions the Republicans and Democrats.

Analysis: It seems that our message it reaching more and more people
through technical and computer means.

Request for action: Please send a fax or call or mail a letter to EDN
asking them to include Libertarians and even candidates like Ross Perot in
the future. This issue is the first of a brand new format for the
periodical. You may say you like the new format, but are dissapointed by
the unfairness of the content:

Peter D. Coley, VP/Publishing Director
EDN
275 Washington St
Newton, MA 02158
Tel (617) 558-4673
Fax (617) 558-4470


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From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: The Decline of America: Addendum on the Police-State (jails)
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 12:51:32 GMT

harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator) writes:

>A survey of american jails has found that more than half regularly
>hold people with serious mental disorders on trivial charges or no
>charges at all.

Yup. But then again, you'd complain if they weren't "held" and were
allowed to roam around the streets in the middle of the winter so they
could freeze to death.

>The group said an additional 23 percent of jails acknowledged holding
>people who have serious mental disorders on minor charges like
>disorderly conduct of vagrancy.

Last I knew vagrancy was still against the law. Or, do you only support
jailing people whom break the laws you agree with?

[...]

>The report said that about 30,000 or 7.2 percent of all those now in
>jail, are menic-depressive or schizophrenic or have other serious
>mental disorders.

I'd love to know how they came up with this assessment. Were the
jailers trained psychiarists[sic?] who could accurately diagnose said
disorders? Or are these numbers just pulled out of thin air?


MD
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Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
From: judi@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Jude)
Subject: Re: Roe v. Wade for Men
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:13:56 GMT

In <15980056@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com> kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse) writes:

>	We are attempting to overturn very sexist laws which deny men the
>right to decline fatherhood in this age of "reproductive freedom" for women.

>	A man's life, future and wallet are currently in the hands of his 
>female partner if she gets pregnant and decides to have the child contrary

If she gets pregnant?  Please remember that it takes both a man and a woman to 
conceive a child and that a woman cannot do this single handedly.  


>to his wishes. He is denied any say in the matter. He is not allowed to say, 
>"I do not choose to be a father and I don't want to be held financially
>responsible for this child." We are going to petition the federal courts to
>permit a man, prior to fetal viability, to go into a family court and 
>relinquish rights and responsibilities to the unborn child. We want a legal
>"right to choose," too.

There is a cheaper way to go about this, by using birth control.  I think that
this is an interesting idea, but if the woman wishes to keep the child, 
there should be a different way to go about this than by mandating abortion.
What if you looked into the legalities of having the woman sign a contract
releasing the biological father from all rights and responsibilities to the
child?  If a woman is having the child simply to make the father miserable,
she is having the child for the wrong reasons.  If she does not have the means
to support the child, the government can assist her.  Maybe the gov't could
create a "paternity fund" that everyone pays into like social security, and 
that could help pay for child support of children whose fathers do not wish to
be involved.  This is just an idea, and I doubt that it's very feasible.  But
if you don't want children, think ahead.  If you ask a woman if she is using 
birth control and she says she is, yet you don't trust her, use another 
method as well.  All the responsibility of birth control should not rest on 
the woman, and all the financial responsibilty of the child should not rest
on the man.  "It takes two to tango."
"Be prepared" or don't play the game.
I would be interested in knowing what the outcome of the legal procedings is.
Men should have reproductive rights as well, but if the woman wants to have the
child, and she doesn't have malicious intent involved and doesn't feel spite
towards the  man, then she should be allowed to have the child.

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.desert-storm,alt.politics.clinton
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: **** ANOTHER COVER-UP - Please read this... ****
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 06:32:42 GMT


Good response t Garrett's nonsense.

I'm stll working on that quoting problem--I'm trying to get
in touch with the tech folks here about that.

Basically you were pointing out that alot of the things that today's
Democrats are against are things that were originated by yesterday's
Democrats.

Simon
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.guns
From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
Subject: Re: Springtime for Honecker (part I)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:58:59 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1bcrf3INN43s@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> aphrael@cats.ucsc.edu (Robert D West) writes:
>I hope it went out over the channel that their guest was being denied entry 
>by a bunch of armed thugs acting as government officials.
	Government officials? Armed thugs?  What's the goddamn difference these
	days.  America doesn't have a 4th or 5th amendment anymore.  All it
	has is a flag and you'd be best advised not to exercise your 1st 
	amendment freedoms in the vicinity of that scrap of cloth either.
	No, I'm sorry I just don't see very much difference between armed
	thugs and government officials these days.  Who ya gonna call when
	the government busts down your door and kills you and then confiscates
	your estate from your widow and orphans. . .  America is dead folks.
	Has been for quite a while.  Got this new thing though, they call
	it the "New World Order".  .  .   Aren't we proud?!?


							smg

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From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.desert-storm
Subject: Re: **** ANOTHER COVER-UP - Please read this... ****
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:26:44 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

jac54@cas.org () writes:

>	Helicopters: French, German, Soviet, British

Some Bell helicopters modified to take armaments: Not initially military
though. Ther was an arguement a while back about who actually modified the
helicopters to take guns and rockets, Bell or the Iraqi's.
I never saw an outcome, just allegations and counter allegations, so I've
no idea who really did modify them.

Add this one to the FAFM (Frequently argued Flammable Material) list.


Dave (I got a list *somewhere* in this stupid file system)

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Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: UIC-based official campaign office of Clinton/Gore?
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:15:21 GMT

U56503@uicvm.uic.edu writes:

>Information in the public interest which does not imply that it
>is the opinion of UIC.  Contact 75300.3115@compuserve.com for
>further information.

Why is the Clinton campaign utilizing university resources to release
official campaign announcements ?

Does the university approve of its network connection and computer
resources being used to thump for votes? Is UIC connected to the network
via an NSFnet circuit?

MD
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From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: ==> Clinton/Gore Electronic Communications Sites
Date: 16 Oct 1992 17:21:25 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <5576@balrog.ctron.com> smith@ctron.com writes:
>The Internet policies note that it is considered improper form to use the net
>for commercial gain.  I think canvassing for votes falls under the spirit, if
>not the letter of that guideline.  I have been watching tons of this stuff
>arriving without complaint, but I think it's time this out-and-out campaigning
>was stopped.  This is not the Clinton/Gore newsgroup, it is a forum for
>_debates_.  

I agree.  His pursuit of office can only be interpreted as non-commercial if
we rely on a mushy intent standard.

>A few postings setting out positions for such debates is to be
>expected, but this barrage of campaign literature is way out of line.  Until
>Bush and Perot also gain net access and get equal bandwidth, I must say I
>disapprove of this as bad form.

<retch>  Bush and Perot don't have equal access?!  How ridiculous.  They are
both multi-millionaires, with paid staff of hundreds of advisors, including
plenty of people acquainted with computers and networks.  Ross Perot, certainly
has no excuse.  If those bumsqually nincompoops wanted to be here, they
would be here.


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  <Representing myself.  Everything I say is for educational use only.>
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc
From: PMSCHULL@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: NLNS: CHRISTIAN IDENTITY (UPDATED V
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:23:46 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

So according to Chip "fascism" is a term which "has little in common"
from application to application.  In other words: a term with no
denotation, only connotation.  That is, a purely propagandistic term.
Suitable for old Chip.  And his attacks on LaRouche.  On Reason. Etc .
   But if one looks at Fiscism Germany, Fascism Italy, Fascist Bulgaria,
etc. etc. one can--if one uses one's intellect--see the essential
identity: an intense degree of austerity.  The slave labor camps of the
NaZis  (wherein the Slave Workers were worked to death in 30 - 270 days,
depending on the era and place--longer life expectancies early, 1933, in German
less later, 1940s Poland)   were most salient.  But Mussolini had an
"Environmentalist Project" to empty the cities (copied by Pol Pot) which
he went a large way in doing.  Hundreds of thousands of people were
relocated to caves.   While few ate cooked food in Italy in the late
1920s, the massive debt to the bankers was paid off quickly.  (Cf.
"Literary Digest" April 1928.)  Bulgaria put about 12% of proceeds from
sales of indistrial goods into wages and reinvestment--the rest going
primarily to financiers, to German stockholders, etc.
    Quoting from a "Know-Nothing" dictionary of terms does not alter
the facts of history.
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.desert-storm,alt.politics.clinton
From: bena@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Ben Aveling)
Subject: Re: **** ANOTHER COVER-UP - Please read this... ****
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:24:09 GMT

Michael P. Deignan (kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net) wrote:
: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
: 
: >Let's see, Bush became VP under Reagan in 1980 right? Lessee, the Iran-Iraq
: >war began in October 1980. Nope, Bush wasn't in office (and clearly didn't
: >know anything about it either :).
: 
: Its fairly common practice for Vice Presidents to be unknown, uninformed
: nobodies. For you say that Bush had an effect on the policy-making efforts
: of the Reagan administration would imply that you also agree that Dan
: Quayle can have a similar effect on Bush's decisions.

Michael Deignan has two legs.  I have two legs.
Therefore I am Michael Deignan ?

That fact that Quale is a know-nothing vice president does not mean that
Bush was.  You might as well say that the fact that Reagan was a know-nothing
president means that Bush is.  Or that because Nixion was a crook means that
all American Presidents are.  Perhaps I should conclude that because Lincon 
is dead, so is Bush.

I'm impressed... not.

	Ben
From: smith@ctron.com (Larry Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: TOBACCO ADVERTISEMENTS ON TV?
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:49:48 GMT
Reply-To: smith@ctron.com
Organization: Cabletron Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct11.030338.1757@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu writes:
>I was asked whether cocaine sellers should be able to front 
>commercial that make their product appealing to ten year olds.
>Alas, the answer is *yes*.

It has been said that the freedom to swing  one's arms as one pleases ends
at the tip of another person's nose.  I believe the  freedom to smoke ends
there as well.  If smoking only  affected the person indulging, as cocaine
does,  you would have a point.  But enough evidence exists that sidestream
smoke _is_ a health  hazard,  particularly  for babies.  I profess  a most
extreme Libertarian view,  and would certainly agree with you that cocaine
and other drugs  should be legalized,  but smoking is air pollution and it
should be  treated as what it is.  Your comparisons with  bigotry are mere
hyperbole and  do not  stand up to  any analysis.  The mere  presence of a
black person does not increase my risk of cancer.  Even if it did, I would
have to consider  that a black  person is black through  no fault of their
own.  Smokers have no  such defense, they deliberately, and with knowledge
aforethought accept the  risks of the  activity, and just as diliberately,
and with  just as much forethought,  subject other people  to them against
their will.  If  the distinction is still not  clear to you then I suggest
that  perhaps you need to consider  the question of conflicting  rights in
more detail.

Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
-
Liberty is not the freedom to do whatever we want,
it is the freedom to do whatever we are able.
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: ejs@netcom.com (Evan Schaffer)
Subject: Re: Harel gets a defender (was Re: Yet another pathetic Friedman post
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:05:15 GMT

In the category of lies,
there are lies, damn lies, and statistics.
From: adamt@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Australian military air show & arms
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:41:00 GMT
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Nf-From: peg.UUCP!adamt    Oct 14 00:41:00 1992


Newsgroups: misc.activism, alt.activism, melb.general, aus.politics

Disarm the Skies             AEROSPACE '92

October 21-25, Avalon Airport, 30 kms from Melbourne, Australia

"The great lesson that everyone has learned out of the Gulf is 
 that we must control the international arms trade."
 - Senator Robert Ray, Australian Minister for Defence.

So what do we get...

- The largest space and aeronautic arms sale ever to be help
  in the Southern Hemisphere!

- An AIDEX on wings!

Aerospace '92 is a trade show of aeronautic equipment that is
70-80% military, although this will be reduced to 40% on the 
weekend, when it is open to the public.

In difficult economic times, military manufacturing is seen
as a potential growth industry for Australia.
Sales in the Asia-Pacific region are increasing at %10 per annum,
and some Australians want a piece of this cake.

Do you want Australia to be part of this murderous industry?

What can you do? 

    1. Publicise your views.
    2. Participate in the activites of the next two weeks.

Contact:

Friends of the Earth (FOE),        222 Brunswick st. Fitzroy, 
                                   phone: (03) 419 8700

Campaign Against Militarism (CAM), 124 Napier st, Fitzroy, 
                                   phone: (03) 419 5937

Campaign for Internation           5th Floor, 252 Swanston st, 
Cooperation & Disarmament (CICD)   Melbourne, phone: 663 3667

or email:                          adamt@peg.apc.org

or Pegasus/Earthnet/Peacenet/:     oz.military, cafe.melbourne,
   Econet/Greennet conferences     pn.abolition
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections
From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (Harel Barzilai)
Subject: NADER, OTHERS DISAPPOINTED IN CLINTON'S NAFTA SUPPORT 
Followup-To: alt.activism.d
Originator: daemon@pencil.cs.missouri.edu
Organization: ?
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:32:11 GMT

[Via misc.activism.progressive from PeaceNet's trade.news]
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Topic 172       TRADE.NEWS 10-7-92 
kmander Updates on GATT & NAFTA Negotiations     2:24 pm  Oct  7, 1992 
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TRADE NEWS BULLETIN 
Wednesday, October 7, 1992 
_________________________________________________________ 
NAFTA News Summary 
_________________________________________________________ 
NADER, OTHERS DISAPPOINTED IN CLINTON'S NAFTA SUPPORT 

Consumer advocate Ralph Nader and representatives of  
environmental and labor groups said they were disappointed that  
Bill Clinton decided to support NAFTA.  Nader said the flaws in  
NAFTA are so fundamental that they cannot be resolved by separate  
legislation and agreements as Clinton suggests. 

The Sierra Club and the AFL-CIO were similarly disappointed but still  
felt that Clinton would protect the environment and U.S. jobs better  
than President Bush.  "Unlike George Bush, he is willing to link  
NAFTA's successful completion with environmental standards," Sierra  
Club President Michael McCloskey said. 

AFL-CIO President Lane Kirkland said union members are unhappy  
with Clinton's announcement but that they would continue to support  
Clinton for president.  The Economic Policy Institute has concluded  
that NAFTA could put as many as 550,000 U.S. workers out of work  
over the next 10 years. 

Former California Governor Jerry Brown, who made opposition to  
NAFTA a major issue in his bid for the presidency, will hold a  
counter-demonstration against the pact today.  Brown said that even  
supporters of NAFTA admit that fewer than 200,000 mainly high- 
skilled jobs will be created from NAFTA, while no one denies that  
low-skilled jobs will shift to Mexico.  "There is no question that semi- 
skilled and low-skilled jobs will be destroyed and people who are  
already on the margin will suffer grievously," Brown said. 

Source: "Free Trade," AP, October 7, 1992; Nancy Dunne, "Nader Hits  
at Accord," FINANCIAL TIMES, October 7, 1992, p. 5. 
_________________________________________________________ 
Produced by: 
Kai Mander     
The Institute for Agriculture and Trade Policy (IATP) 
1313 Fifth Street SE, Suite #303 
Minneapolis, MN 55414-1546 USA 

Telephone:(612)379-5980 Fax:(612)379-5982  
E-Mail:kmander@igc.org 
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