From: mughal@juliet.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL)
Subject: Re: Is Islam equal to Intolearnce and Fascism ?
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Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:58:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.224302.28391@newton.ccs.tuns.ca>, jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes...
>In article <1992Aug25.172303.9785@cco.caltech.edu> asim@heckle.ugcs.caltech.edu (A. M. Mughal) writes:
> 
>...... (stuff deleted)
> 
>>>and helicopters were used by Pakistan's army for crushing the MRD (Movement
>>>for Restoration of Democracy). 
>>
>>
>>	Nadeem, yes but what is this discussion on Pakistani politics which
>>	say has basis in the religion doing in soc.rights.human ?
> 
>It may be a mere coincidence but the people of Pakistan happen to be HUMANs,
>and the Islamic system which is assumed supreme in Pakistan violates those
>people's RIGHT to decide their destiny.

     We disagree. Islam is a religion of compasssion and mercy and for the
     benefit of humanity. It, by default, is not against the rights of people.
     It gives a decent way of life in which everyone can live in peace and
     harmony. 
> 
>>
>>	I think you are isolating one possible factor which can be taken
>> 	as ignoring the theory. Let me highlight one other factor, the 
>>	U.S. Govt. supported Zia regime and its actions  so was U.S. Govt.
>>	involved in crushing the "MRD" too? Was it really for restoration of
>>	democracy or one political party's way of trying to the office ? 
>>
> 
>You should be ashamed of yourself for saying this. What political affiliation

     Well, I am not, no need to be. I think I do have the right to ask the 
     question which I think is very relevant if we do intent to discuss the 
     matter by looking at all the factors and not by isolating those which fit 
     one's theory.

>do you think people of villages throughout Pakistan's Sindh province shared 
>because of which they were persecuted like that?? Do you even have the courage

     I don't know.

>to acknowledge that so many people were killed???   If most of the political

     What will my acknowledgement do ? Nor does it needs any courage.

>parties of a country (including the most popular party) take an initiative
>against a military dictator, what's so wrong about it?? Do the people have

     I never said there is anything wrong it. I am a asking question regarding
     the intent of a political party in launching such a movement, I will
     like to hear your thoughts. 

>to fight without any leaders to deserve credibility??

     I don't know. I haven't seen it happen or form an opinion on it.
> 
>>>
>>>Let me ask you one question. Does Islam recognise the people's right
>>>to decide against an Islamic system?
>>
>>	I will like to think yes. There are many many countries which have 
>>	chosen to decide against the Islamic system or any religion system
>>	as their  basis, separating 'church' and the state. 
> 
>I did not ask whether it is possible that a country with muslim majority
>be without an "Islamic" system. I know it is possible... and that's what I'm
>hoping will happen in Pakistan one day. 

     In that case, you must be happy because as it is, Pakistan doesn't have
     an Islamic System. :)  
> 
>>>
>>>Nadeem
>>>
>>
>>Asim Mughal
>>
>>[Standard Disclaimer]
> 
>Nadeem
> 

Asim Mughal
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>Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
>						 
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