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From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: It didn't take long...
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:22:23 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.basketball.college, morse@satie.cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse) writes:
:I just saw a guy on Franklin Street in Chapel Hill wearing what must
:have been a recently printed T-shirt.  I couldn't make out all of it,
:but I did see "The Spectrum" and "Laettner".
:
:Oh, and it had a footprint across the chest.

Real cute!  How come this T-shirt was seen in the UNC territory?  Has
Chapel Hill been overtaken by the Duke fanatics?

Laettner's step on the Kentucky player certainly was....

	     The Stomp That Was Heard Around The World!


- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
Steve Williams
swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: neierka@victoria.cs.rose-hulman.edu (Kent A. Neier)
Subject: Re: Packer goofs up (about Eric Riley)
Reply-To: neierka@cs.rose-hulman.edu
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:25:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.155323.10496@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
|> And by the way - wasn't the most enjoyable part of the TV coverage when
|> they put that Kentucky legend (Haywood something - sorry Kentucky fans) and
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^
                                          Jefferies

|> Quinn Buckner on the audio (they were doing the CBS radio coverage).  I 
|> know a lot of people who switched to the radio for the rest of the game
|> after that!
|> -- 
|> 
|> Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: jones@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (William P. Jones)
Subject: Re: IU/DUKE Officals (also Knight quits before players do)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: jones@venus.iucf.indiana.edu
Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center
Date:  6 APR 92 09:25:04    

In article <1992Apr6.023240.22919@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, Jonathan Paul Heuring <jheuring@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> writes...
>I think some great things have been said about the officiating in this game.
>I don't think I've ever seen a game where a team fouled almost three times as
>much in the second half.  And Laettner picks up his third foul in the last minute of the game?  You must be kidding, with all of the banging going on down low.  Duke played an excellent game, and defended IU better than anyone this year.
> 
    You've obviously missed a lot of IU games the past two seasons. IU has made 
more free throws than opponents have attempted each of the past two seasons and 
there have been several games each season with a 3 to 1 margin in IU's favor. 
The main problem was that Duke adjusted to the officiating and Indiana didn't. 
Hurley got two quick fouls called in the first halfand changed his defensive 
style appropriately.
    Something that none of the announcers picked up on was that Knight sent up 
the white flag when he replaced Anderson with Todd Lindeman before Leary almost 
got the game back with his three point barrage. No one told Leary that the game 
was over.Too bad he wasn't eligible to play in the first half against the Duke 
zone. A couple of threes before halftime could have made things a lot different.
From: mgarber@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Max D Garber)
Subject: Re: +++DUKE WINS AGAIN!!!+++
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:26:02 GMT

YO-

     Maybe I meant 'Congrats for hanging in there all those 
years'...maybe?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

THE HYPEMAN
From: gwangung@byron.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: The crumbling U.W. Mens's B-Ball Program
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:45:44 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr9.230825.13028@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>duh@milton.u.washington.edu (Darius Howard) writes:
>>It's also pathetic to see that our Women's Basketball team
>>outsells our Men's Basketball team.  How many schools can brag about
>>that?
>Maybe not Virginia and Tennessee, but I wouldn't be surprised if that
>was the case in Western Kentucky and SW Missouri State.  It's
>certainly true (or very close) at Stanford!

	And the men's team hasn't been that bad, either, has it?

>I mean: the NATIONAL CHAMPION STANFORD CARDINAL (aka Home Of The Hemmer).

	Damn, I'm impressed with her. Great rebounder, tough defender,
hard worker. A lot of male basketball players could take a cue from her.
(and she's got three more years!).

-- 
	"I got into theatre originally to pick up girls. Unfortunately, all I
found were women..."
e-mail:  gwangung@milton.u.washington.edu
From: cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu (   )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 1992 Illini thoughts.
Date: 17 Apr 1992 16:02:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

>>Since the Iowa players don't really have anyone who
        can match up to the rising stardom of Anderson & Gill, I'd have to
        call it even between these 2 teams in terms of talent.

Actually, Gamble is the first one (among the IL and IA players mentioned)
to appear in an NBA All-star game. BJ is the first one to contribute to a
championship team.
From: sfp1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Sven F. F. Pride)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Net Basketball Talent (was Re: Duke Tourney Observations)
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:16:05 GMT
Reply-To: sfp1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

> This brings up an interesting question:  how good are most of you net.gods
> at playing basketball?  What types of players are you?  And come on, be
> honest - no false claims.

	In our school newspaper's IM article, they call me Sven "Air"
Pride. That's air as in air-ball. I have also been referred to as "Torpedo,"
"Power of One," and "Kick Master General." Don't ask me. I don't write the
stuff. 
	As to basketball skills...
					... what are they? 

	I'm 6 foot. I play inside and do very well on the boards with
people who are below 6'3" despite my 2 inch vertical. My only other
conceivable (sp?) skill is as a passer. I inbound the ball frequently
and help break presses. I'm also not bad at hitting cutters, if I get
the ball at the top of the key. I hit a three-pointer.... once!

					---Sven Pride

sfp1@midway.uchicago.edu
	Go Seminoles, Celtics, RedSox and Bruins!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: NCAA Investigations
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:02:41 GMT

nelson@palmerc@abulafia.b21.ingr.com (Nelson Jordan) writes:
>  I don't know if your LSU friend told you or not, but the NCAA spent 6 YEARS
>investigating the entire LSU atheltic department in the early 80's when Dale
>was waging his personnel war on them. SIX YEARS and guess what they found;
>some assistant coach on the football team bought a kid a lunch at a local
>What-a-Burger. So the NCAA gives LSU the obligatory 1 year probation (no lost
>scholarships, TV, post-season play). Maybe this has something to do with them
>being hesitant to investigate LSU without major evidence, what with no success
>digging anything up after 6 years of living on-campus.

	This is exactly what I'm talking about.  The NCAA made the trip, so
	in order to save face, they have to give some sort of penalty!  If
	the NCAA is going to actually make the trip to the school, it seems 
	like they're going to give a penalty.

	This was the case in the U of Illinois case.  There was the big
	controversy about Deon Thomas' recruitment, which brought on the
	investigation.  Although allegations about Deon were never proved,
	Illinois was found "guilty" of some tick-tack violations which led
	to a year of probation and a ban on off-campus recruiting.  More than
	a slap on the wrist I must say...

	Jazzy J
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From: rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Lessons from the Season?
Keywords: $0.02
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:50:34 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

Here are some lessons we've learned from this year's NCAA season and tourney.

1. Coach K. is a Hall-of-Fame coach.  When was the last time a team suffered as
   many serious injuries as Duke did this year, and still win the tourney?
   And even more remarkable, remain #1 the whole season, losing only 2
   games?

   People can say Duke had alot of good luck against Kentucky, which they
   did, but they had a truckload of bad luck in November and February,
   and then with Davis's injury in the semis.  In the face of adversity,
   you've got to credit the coach.

2. There are alot of whiny Indiana fans on the net.  All they can do is
   bitch about the officiating, ignoring the fact they had at one point
   an 8-2 edge in fouls called (8 on Duke 2 on IU) in the first half.
   Maybe Duke did a good job of adjusting to the officiating?  Maybe they
   refused to give up and kept attacking the basket?  Maybe they were just
   a little too quick for Indiana causing Indiana to commit fouls?  Nah,
   it was the officiating.  You managed to just lose one of your distant
   admirers for future tourneys.  Go Wolverines.

3. The Fab Five is truly fabulous.  Now I think the burden is on Steve
   Fisher to ensure that the team learns from their late game collapse
   against Duke to become a better team next year.  The problem is, 18
   year olds have short memories.  Will they be able to supplement they're
   "we're bad" attitude with a little bit of smarts in the face of adversity?
   If so, they'll be a Final Four contender for as long as they stay
   together.

4. Eric Montross may be about to live up to the billing everyone gave
   him coming out of high school.  All that hard practice work against
   Salvadori may be beginning to pay off.  If Donald Williams can take
   over for Hubert, not replace him, but at least provide some dangerous
   outside shooting, the Heels will be really tough.

5. Lute Olson is a coach on the decline.  Emotion carries the day in the
   NCAA's, and that's not Lute.

6. It's nice to see Kentucky back as the team to beat in the SEC.

7. Dale Brown will have to actually go back to coaching a little bit next
   year.

8. Will Duke overtake Notre Dame as the "team people love to hate" next year?
   Fortunately for us, Hurley's quit whining, and the main focus of antipathy
   has graduated.  It's unfortunate from a team performance perspective, but
   good from a general sportsmanship perspective.  Duke should be a top 10
   team next year regardless, and if Grant Hill starts shooting 3's, and
   steps forward like people think, and Parks and Meek provide solid center
   play, we'll be in New Orleans as participants.

I'm sure many of you will supply others and disagree with these.
  
-- 
Ronnie Smith             Duke University                Durham, NC 
 Addresses: CSNET: rws@duke  UUCP: decvax!duke!rws  INTERNET: rws@cs.duke.edu

The next Duke Invitational,  1993 in New Orleans.
From: verland@rockyj.rockefeller.edu (Peter Verlander)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Congraduate [sic] to Duke.....NOT!
Organization: Rockefeller University
Distribution: USA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 21:40:22 EDT

In article <12005@ns-mx.uiowa.edu> welin@icaen.uiowa.edu (Wentsung Lin) writes:

(A lot of nonsense about IU, Duke, Laettner deleted)

>The college Basketball season finally over, and this year's big
>winner is the NCAA and the ref's.  No, Duke did NOT win the Final
>Four.  Other teams just lost to the ref's.
>
>One final thought, I have no respect for those who try to make up
>stupid excuses instead admitting the wrong doings. 

Based on the juxtaposition of these statements, I would hope that 
you are seeking professional help - you must have very low self
esteem.

BTW, against Kentucky, Laettner wasn't responding to the foul that 
had just occurred - he was responding to getting hammered ~2 minutes 
earlier - and admitted as much in an interview the day after the game.  

Pete Verlander
From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: McD All-American Game Players
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:25:54 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL


The following lists the players, their high schools, and college choices
for the McDonald's All-American High School Basketball Game, to be
played next weekend at Georgia Tech's Alexander Memorial Coliseum:

			EAST

Player		Size	Position	High School		College
Donta Bright	6-6	WF		Baltimore Dunbar (Md)	Undecided
Tony Delk	6-3	2G		Brownsville (Tn)	Kentucky
Steve Edwards	6-6	G-F		Miami Senior (Fla)	Undecided
Michael Lloyd	6-2	PG/2G		Baltimore Dunbar (Md)	Undecided
Martice Moore	6-7	G-F		Oak Hill Academy (Va)	Georgia Tech
Rodrick Rhodes	6-7	G-F		St. Anthony's (NJ)	Kentucky
Duane Simpkins	6-0 	PG		DeMatha (Md)		Maryland
Carlos Strong	6-8	PF		Cedar Shoals (Ga)	Georgia
John Wallace	6-8	PF		Rochester Athena (NY)	Undecided
Serge Zwikker	7-3	C		Potomac Harker (Md)	N Carolina

			WEST

Player		Size	Position	High School		College
Chris Collins	6-3	PG-2G		Northbrook (Il)		Duke
Chris Davis	6-7	PF		Oak Hill Academy (Va)	Kansas
Othella
 Harrington	6-9	C		Jackson Murrah (Miss)	Undecided
Richard Keene	6-5	2G		Collinsville (Il)	Illinois
Jason Kidd	6-4	PG-2G		St. Joe Notre Dame (Ca)	California
Charles Macon	6-8	PF-WF		Michigan City (Ind)	Ohio State
Kenyon Murray 	6-6	WF		Battle Creek (Mich)	Iowa
Greg Simpson	6-2	PG		Lima Senior (Oh)	Ohio State
Duane Spencer	6-10	WF		New Orleans Cohen (La)	Georgetown
Corliss
 Williamson	6-7	PF		Russelville (Ark)	Arkansas

This information was in Sunday's Atlanta Constitution.

Coach of the East will be Wendell Byrd of South Lakes High in Reston, Va.
Coach of the West will be Willie Boston, of Westover (Georgia?).

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From: mpg8842@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Madhav  Parthasarathy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: any info on Duke recruits for next year?
Summary: Any info on Duke recruits for next year?
Keywords: Any info on duke recruits for next year?
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:13:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr10.181328.2012
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


 Hi,

   Guess the subject says it all.  Looks like Duke'll have
a great starting five, but not much depth at all next year
especially at the forward and center positions.  by the way,
is Chris Collins an off-guard?  And who's Toni Moore (sp?).
Do they have (or trying to get) any other recruits?

  -Madhavan
From: sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke-IU--the problem with basketball
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:37:22 GMT
	<1992Apr7.021451.19105@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
	<ku6jqhINNm09@trurl.cs.utexas.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University

}} In article <ku6jqhINNm09@trurl.cs.utexas.edu> clancy@cs.utexas.edu (Daniel J. Clancy) writes:
}} 
}} 	   Not everyone.  If I remember correctly, Inidiana scored
}} 	   something like 5 points in the first 10 to 12 minutes
}} 	   of the second half.  This occurred because Duke was playing 
}} 	   great defense not because of the fouls.  Indiana played a 
}} 	   great first half and was only up by 5 against a  Duke
}} 	   team that played one of its worst halfs of the year.

If I remember correctly, Duke only scored something like 15 points in
that same span.  After Indiana's putrid play, the ref-assisted Dukies
wer only up by 5 points against an IU team that was playing one of its
worst halfs [sic] of the year.

sjc@cs.purdue.edu             Steve Chapin             Today's Grammar Lesson:
                       Let's hope the usher lets us in.

                      Beef:  Real food for a dead planet.
From: ags@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: # 1 All Season
Date: 12 Apr 92 05:51:25 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <11228@borg.cs.unc.edu> burgin@currituck.cs.unc.edu (Robert Burgin) writes:
>	Just out of curiosity, how many teams in the post-UCLA
>	era have been rated # 1 all year long AND won the title?

Indiana did it in 1975-76, generally getting all but one of the first-place
votes each week.

-- 
Dave Seaman
ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell)
Subject: Re: Women's Championship
Originator: cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:39:43 GMT

In article <12023.29e324ed@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.114857.21829@news.larc.nasa.gov>, cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>	Does anyone know how many turnovers there were in the final game of
>the women's championship?  It had to be some ridiculously large number.  I'd
>also like to find out the field goal percentage.  I would think it was pretty
>low.  Overall, the final game was absolutly shitty.
>
>					Later,
>
>					Brian Egras

For the record, I didn't write this. If you're going to edit
an article, please be careful. I didn't even watch the final game, so
I have no opinion on it.     




-- 
Charlie Cockrell                          VV     VV 1991 Men's Soccer Champs.
NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, Va. VV   VV  1992 Men's NIT Champions  
U.Va. School of Engineering, Class of 1990  VV VV   1991 Women's ACC BB Champs.
(These are my opinions only)                 VVV                        
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: bradley@storm.rtp.dg.com (Scott Bradley)
Subject: Re: Go MICHGAN-DUKE sucks
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 18:58:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: bradley@dg-rtp.rtp.dg.com
Organization: Data General Corp., Research Triangle Park, NC

> Duke doesn't deserve to win this game simply because they suck.  I hope  
> that I am offending any Blue Devil fans out there. When  we (Indiana  
> University) played Duke in the simi final game the referees were on Dukes  
> side and that hurt us a lot.  Even though Duke had the referees on their  
> side we still only loss by 3 points.  I admit that we lost our composure  
> at the end of the first half, but all of those unnecessary fouls called on  
> us didn't help either.  Whoever heard of giving a team a technical foul,  
> just because the bench jumped up.  I believe that if the game was called  
> right we would have beat Duke.  I still think our team is by far the best  
> team out there, but with referees calling fluky shots it was hard to prove  
> it, but Duke you will get yours by Michigan.  
> 
> Keep the NCAA in the big TEN Michigan.
> 
> Shawn
> Indiana University
> 
> From the Hoosier Land.

I personally don't know why you are taking out your frustrations with the
referees on Duke.  Duke does not have any magical hold over which calls the
refs make.  I am especially surprised to hear this from an Indiana fan, whose
team, like Duke, plays the type of basketball that is designed to draw fouls.
Indiana and Duke both usually dominate other teams at the Line.  Duke drew 
the fouls that they usually draw and Indiana was not as fortune as they
usually are.  Both are great teams, each with a great coach.  Because of 
Coach K (Dukes's), I have come to appreciate Indiana and Knight more since
the systems and the programs are very similar.  I agreed with Coach K when
he said before the game, "Whoever wins the Duke-Indiana game, I hope wins
the championship."
From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: What's the joke???
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:47:27 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


 I was talking to a friend tonight and I wanted to tell him a joke I
had heard but damned if I couldn't remember anything but the punch-line.
I'm sure you all know it it starts out something like

 "This duck walks into a bar and asks the bartender for a beer"

 and the punchline of course is

 "That's not a puddle of pond-scum that's Scotty Turner!!!!"

 I just can't remember the rest - could someone help out with this???

   Thanks in advance...


				gln
From: burtonr@qso.Colorado.EDU (Richard Burton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: random thoughts before the Big Game
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:22:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: colorado.1992Apr6.182243.18786
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

ms linda writes:

>i was so glad duke beat indiana.  it's been said, i know, but knight is just
>such an ass that losing to him would have been doubly painful.  

And Laettner is so sweet and innocent and , after his NBA career, will 
follow in the footsteps of Mother Theresa (pun intended).

T-Bone Burton
CASA
Coors U.
"I've got a willy shaped just like a turnip." - Baldrick
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: quay@engin.umich.edu (Bryan S. Leudy)
Subject: Re: could Packer be related to Laettner
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:45:44 EDT
Organization: Campus Computing Sites, University of Michigan

In article <1992Apr8.215520.28859@news.iastate.edu> tabk2@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
>How about Michigan playing a great first half, rather than Duke having a 
>bad one? The favoritism is obvious....I hope this clown does not get selected
>to be any future Final Four commentaries except for the other Final 4,ie
>the Oldsmobile Final Four Sellathon.
>

True. True.  But the more I watched, the more I thought:
NOBODY is playing good basketball. They both looked tired
as hell through my binoculars!  Until the last few minutes
anyway. THEN Duke played like they had all year. While Michigan
slept..
 

  
--
Luedy@mailgw.drda.umich.edu
--
From: ags@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: IU's comeback.
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:18:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr6.145432.2918@meaddata.com> bobj@meaddata.com (Robert Jones) writes:
>Also, why the heck did Meeks shoot that three with 15 seconds to go?
>You've got Leary (who had just hit three of them in 30 seconds) and
>Anderson to go to.  I think Meeks has hit about one three pointer in
>his career.  15 seconds was plenty of time to work the ball around.

I noticed that Leary was well covered on that series, since he had hit
three straight already. Meeks may not be IU's best outside shooter, but
he is certainly adequate (13-34, .382  on threes, including his one
attempt in the Duke game).  He does not shoot well in traffic against taller
opposition, which is why he has a reputation as a non-shooter, but he has
always been ready to take the wide-open three when it is available, usually
when the shot clock is running down and his teammates are covered.

-- 
Dave Seaman
ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu