From: exukev@exu.ericsson.se (Kevin Autrey)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Roseanne and The "Faggot" Insult (was Re: When Lesbians Kiss)
Keywords: Roseanne, Newsweek, Unconcious marines, straight friends, Too Out
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:53:18 GMT
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In article <1992Dec16.155725.17407@tc.cornell.edu> shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
>In article <1gmm2cINNfar@roche.csl.sri.com> kmac@cisco.com (Karl MacRae) writes:
>>	Heard on Rossane tonight:
>>		"Whenever lesbians kiss, another angel gets it's wings..."
>>	That show has gotten *cool*!
>
>Yup.  I especially liked the discussion of impregnation
>while Dan was basting the turkey.
>--
>       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu

Yeah, but the whole "Roseanne Is Cool" aura wears off a little when I
read in Newsweek, as I did in this week's issue (with Princess Di on
the cover (incidentally, let me direct this message of support to Di:
"go on girl!")), that she called some TV reviewer a "faggot" because
the reviewer wrote a negative review of Tom Arnold's new show, The
Jackie Thomas Show.  Does this rub anybody else the wrong way?  Is
anybody getting rubbed at all right now?  Could you elaborate for me -
I'd like to have a sex life - even if only vicariously.

ALSO in Newsweek (well, *last* week's issue), a short blurb about
Clinton and The Military Ban - and how the ban *will* be lifted,
that's not even a question being posed by/to Clinton, the only thing
up for discussion is implementation details and timetables.  Maybe
I'll try to type that "blurb" in and post it tonight.

Also in media news - there was an article in The Dallas Morning News
(which I believe was actually written for the Washington Post or New
York Times or some equally stature-ridden newspaper) a few Sundays ago
about how there were only FOUR gay-sex incidents prosecuted during the
entire Desert Sheild/Storm episode.  Three ... THREE of those involved
consenting couples.  The other one... I really did have to laugh at
the imagery, involved the case of a soldier knocking out another
soldier so that he could have sex with him.  Basically, the jist of
the article was that gay army personnel were "better behaved" than
their straight counterparts (who had, and are having more every day,
many instances of sexual harassment and assault).  It was a
pro-Lift-The-Ban article.  I'm in the middle of typing that in at home
- will post as soon as it's all in.

Hmmm - what other unrelated little gems can I stick in this article...

How much do you expect out of your straight friends (SF)?  I have a SF
that doesn't think that gays should adopt, or that gays should be
allowed to be married, simply because it's been that way all along,
and it will take a while to get people used to the idea (i.e. SHE
would take a while to get used to the idea).  I told her, in a
nutshell - "fuck that - there is no such thing as TOO SOON when it
comes to *my* rights - my rights are *NOT* debateable".  Our
friendship has become strained because of this.  There is some merit
to the question "what kind of friend is she if she can't take positive
stances on gay issues"?  To anyone else who has a straight friend with
whom they talk about these types of things, is your philosophy "either
you're 100% with me, or you're against me" with regards to Gay Issues?

Also - 

Is there such a thing as being "too out"?  I'm becoming interested in
this guy that makes me look like I'm cowering in the farthest darkest
corner of The Closet - me - the same person who rampaged through my
neighborhood in order to find out who was distributing the anti-gay
literature for one of the local Republican judicial candidates.
Anyway, he wonders why I would feel awkward at holding his hand
walking down the mall.  *I* wonder why I would feel awkward holding
his hand walking down the mall.  He's just *really* out - he even, in
response to his gay-related columns in his university's newspaper)
gets death threat phone calls (which, while I am impressed at these
and how easily he blows them off, they would really kind of scare me).

Okay, I guess that's enough mud in the swimming pool for now...

Kevin

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