HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: GREECE COMMITTED SYSTEMAT
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:12:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


Quoting Hasan Mutlu:
>Most everyone who hasn't been fast asleep for the last ninety years has
>heard the Greek Genocide of the 'Selanik' Muslims and Jews. Yet there
>are 'wieneramus' who persist in revising the history like tyrants. The
>following will raise your reputation as a 'revisionist.'

 Gee.. I've been away from UseNet for about three years... I'm finally
back. Looks like the conversation is EXACTLY where I left it off...

>  damage that the explosion of hatred by the (Greek) population has d

does the () around Greek mean that you inserted that word yourself?
Naughty, Naughty, you should know better than that. That's a no-no when
quoting someone else...

> 'It wasn't only irregulars (Comitacis) who massacred, pillaged and

Whoa! Slow down. The Comitacis were Bulgarian. They were responsible for
the massacre of many Greeks, Jews and others. And now you want to blame
the Greeks for their actions? Learn your history, take a geography
lesson or two. When your confusion is over, come back....

As I was saying, three years later, the very same  stuff on this
boards.... Only Joakim Martillo seems to have (fortunately) departed.
Those who were there then know what I mean.

I'm glad to see that Mr. Davidian is still on and fighting hard.

                                                     Michael....

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From: PFK@UMUC.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Test 3
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:02:36 GMT
Organization: University of Southern Pikaifornia.


 Test re, oxi tsimpouki !
From: CE_SOTIRIS@WVUCOE.WVNET.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Nea apo fwvn Ellados 21/7
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:13:45 GMT


-	O Ghali skopeuei va katageilei sto Sumboulio Asfaleias tou OHE tnv
tourkokupriakn adiallajia av telika o Dektash dev alajei muala

-	H EOK dev biazetai va ava0ermavei tis sxeseis tns me Tourkia
logw twv ellnvikwv epifulajewv. Apogonteusn stnv Agkura

-	Dnlwsn Brettavou Yp.Ej. x0es oti n apofasn tns Lisabwvas eivai
telesidikn kai dev uparxei kammia periptwsn epavadiapragmateusns.  Apogonteusn
kai orgn sta Skopia.  Ev tw metaju oi Albavofwvoi sta Skopia aposur0nkav apo
tnv Bouln otav oi upoloipoi dev dextnkav protasn tous va payouv pia va milouv
gia Makedovia kai Makedoves mias kai auto isws avaferetai stous katoikous
tns polews twv Skopiwv kai movo

-	Kammia epibebaiwsn apo Kub.Ekproswpo peri dn0ev kivnsns EOK gia
oikovomikn bon0eia pros Skopia

-	O Iakwbos suvavtn0nke me Mntso kai Yp.Paideias suzntwvtas tnv suvexisn
tou programmatos tns epimorfwsns twv ellnvopoulwv sto ejwteriko

-	H efnmerida EPOXH tns Melbourvns avagkastnke telika meta apo piseis
omogevwv va paradextei dnmosiws ta sfalmata tns se orismeves dnmosieuseis peri
tnv "makedovikns Dnmokratias twv Skopiwv"

-	H Kroatia ejnre tnv 0etikn stasn tns Elladas gia tnv die0uetnsn tou
Giougkoslabikou problnmatos

Sta a0lntika mas vea gia apoye exoumme tnv apofasn tou Yf.A0lntismou
Papagewrgopoulou sumfwva me tnv opoia epitrepetai kai 2os jevos sto
ellnviko basket akoma kai gia ta eswterika prwta0lnmata sumfwva me to skeptiko
oti prepei oi Ellnves paiktes va avalogistouv tnv pragmatikn tous ajia kai va mn
zntouv uperbolika posa prokalwvtas to geviko suvais0nma tou sosmou, ka0ws
kai gia va eivai oi ellnvikes omades sta idia epipeda me tis jeves
pou xrnsimopoiouv 2 kai 3 paiktes sta prwta0lnmata tous. Etsi parateivetai
mexri 31 Iouliou n metagrafikn periodos sto Basket. Etsi 0a lnjouv kai ta
tragelafika me tos ellnvopoinseis jevwv. 2 0a eivai oi katngories paiktwv
autoi pou paizouve me tnv E0vikn kai ekeivoi pou dev paizouve

Auta gia apoye
Sas xairetw kai va pervate kala

Sotiris Sotiropoulos
From: PFK@UMUC.BITNET
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Test 9 !
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:29:35 GMT
Organization: University of Southern Pikaifornia.


   Test apo Pikaifh ton Poulopnixtra,Tsimpoukolaryggostra,Tsoutsounoleugie ...
From: PASJORDANRA@CRF.CUIS.EDU (Richard Jordan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: INDEX SOC-CULTURE-GREEK
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:32:37 GMT
Organization: Concordia University Information Systems, River Forest, Il.

INDEX SOC-CULTURE-GREEK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: d06448@tanus.oz.au (Argyrios Karavis)
Subject: Skepseis Magazine
Organization: Pro-Net Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 13:20:09 GMT

Vre paidia chreiazomai bohqeia. Qelw va maqw ean to periodiko Skepseis pou
bgaivei sthn ellada gia ta Macintoshes echei hlektronikh dieuquvsh h eav echei
fax number. Parakalw steilete proswpiko muvnhma.

Argurhs Karabhs - Australia

INET: d06448@tanus.cec.edu.au
From: s893937@MINYOS.XX.RMIT.OZ.AU (Eleni Horaitis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Origin of the name Istanbul
Date: 26 Jul 92 06:13:11 GMT

Yesterday, I happened to have a live discussion about the
origin of the name "Istanbul", which resulted in me going
to the library, to prove  what I was saying.

The first book I glanced in, was Britannica Macropaedia, and
I found the information I required.

Quoted from the above source, under the title "Istanbul" page 146
and I think it was volume 22.

"In the 13th century Arabs used the appelation Istinpolin, a "name"
they heard Byzantines use - eis te'n polin - which, in reality, was
a Greek phrase that meant "in the city." Through a series of speech
permutation over a span of centuries, this name became Istanbul. Until 
the Turkish Post Office officially changed the name in 1926, however, 
the city continued to bear the millenary name Costantinople."


The discussion, was rather heated, and when I produced the above, he
apologized. The "evidence" was  good enough for him, hope it satisfies
you "unbelievers" or more likely "you, who don't want to believe"

Regards,

Helen Horaitis
Dept. Applied Chemistry
RMIT, Australia


THE Macedonians ARE Greeks - JUSTICE for CYPRUS

Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: macrakis@osf.org (Stavros Macrakis)
Subject: Re: ENVIRONMENT: Greeks buying ''cleane
Organization: OSF Research Institute
	<3183@ariadne.csi.forth.GR>
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:57:12

In article <3183@ariadne.csi.forth.GR> psikos@erato.csi.forth.gr
(Panos Psikos) writes:

   More important, the reason Greeks say "if it runs fine" is the cost
   of buying a new car in Greece.

Not only are new car prices very high, but labor rates to repair them
used to be extremely low, so it was economical to keep them running
forever.  This is presumably less true now.

	-s
From: 89u7491@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: Kostantinoupolis
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:26:20 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <Jul.20.22.45.24.1992.10990@pilot.njin.net>, hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey) writes:
> In article <e038NB26w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> lyrvas.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:
> 
>> Kostantinoupolis became Instabul in the begining of the twentieth 
>> century. Not 500 years ago. That is when it fell to the Turks. It was 
>> Kemal Ataturk in the 1920s that changed the name of the city (as well as 
>> the Capital of the new nation. Read your history, then come to teach us 
>> ours... 
> 
> I was one of the posters that wrote about the names. Let me restate
> it again so there are no misunderstandings.
> 
> As early as ~1300 CE an author used both names; Ko(n)stantiniyya
> and Istamboul. Which means that the word Istanbul was in use
> long before 1920s.

	I don't think the city was called Istanbul so long ago. For Greeks
even now wene you ask a refugee from Istanbul (If you like) he calls it
Polis (ie The City) in a sence the ultimate city. So on request of were are you
going traveler the answer was "Is Tin Poli" from wich was derived the Istanbul.
So Polis was the nickname and Istanbul was the transliteration of what
Foreiners (Turks) thaught the name was. As a note there was a Newspaper called
Kostantiniyya in Istanbul. It was Turkish and it was shut down because the
Turkish Authorities didn't like the name. This only a few months ago.
	George


> 
> 	mark
	
	George
From: cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: I am still alive
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:09:01 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

In article <9207290533.AA19522@hac2arpa.hac.com>,
STRIANTAFYLL%34985.gm@HAC2ARPA.HAC.COM writes:
>
>I am not dead; just too busy geting ready for Spiros Jr.

Amerikavopoinqnkes, blepw.
--
Constantinos A. Caroutas
From: MehmedII@harem.topkapi.plc (Mehmed II the Conquerer (sp?))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Oboy this guy is damn clever or fool.. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Summary: You're working too hard, have a rest (sp?)
Keywords: fool, jerk, Conquerer --> Conqueror, :-8)))
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:06:52 GMT
Organization: Fool Greek Fooling Inc.  (GFI)

in article <1992Jul251345.TJ23100@TURK-JERK.Ottoman-Cauldron.Abyss.Blazing-Hell>
writes:
] 
         Hey Greek Jerk,      :8)))))))

         You made my day. hahahahahaha. Hakan ha? hahahahahahahaha.....
         !Clever jerk. (jerk:= not clever) hahahahahahahahahahahaha
         You are damn fool. hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

] Hakan ...  An e-mail request to your postmaster at Vanderbilt University and
] to the postmaster of the mail-to-news gateway at Berkeley just served to
] certify my assertions, that you are a very poor and incompetent forger who

         hahahahahahahaha. oboy, clever boy hahahahahahahahaha. Hakan ha?,
         hahahahaha. Vanderbilt ha? hahahahahahahahahahahahaha, Berkeley ha?
         hohohohohohohohohohohoho, e-mail request ha? hohohohohohoho.

         Hey Jerk,   :-))))))))))))))

         Listen up. You are damn fool jerk. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

] takes no measures at all to wipe out traces behind him ...  All this makes 
] medepressed and disappointed . When I think that JERKS like you, who can't 
] even concoct a decent forgery, with their credentials of a US education, 
] will one day be on the saddle in Turkiye then I lose all hope in the final 
                                   #######

       oboy, hahahaha, which jerk does use Turkiye instead of Turkey. haha
       haha. It is Turkey jerk the forger (sp?), got it? . hahahahaha...
       hohohohohohahohahohahohahohahohohohohahahahahahahaha

] like you on the wheel, vested one day with leading positions, Turkiye needs
] no enemies like 'Gav*0', 'Wieneramus', 'Hallam the Crook' and all these
] '-ians'...  You are worse than them ...

       hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, Crook hahahahahahahahahahaha.
       Europeans are going to kick the bucket of Greece soon, hahahahahahahah.
       You crooks are already feeling like 30 cents hahahahahahahahahaha....

] Nick the Devil - Old Nick - THE DEVIL HIMSELF !!  ( OUUUCH !!  IT HURTS !! )

       hahahaha Mr. Devil change the column size of the damn editor,
       hahahahahahahaha. 


                                       Mehmed II the Conquerer (sp?)
From: yiannis@WAM.UMD.EDU (IOANNIS VELISSARAKOS  ATHINA-HELLAS)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: DEN EINAI DYNATON....
Date: 27 Jul 92 06:18:54 GMT


			D  E  N  

		     E  I  N  A  I 

		  D  Y  N  A  T  O  N 

	to eipan kai ayto oi... kata ta alla... "epaggelmaties" 
thleparousiastes ths Amerikanikhs thleorashs. "H Olympiakh floga 
anabete se... ena bouno sthn Ellada to "Mount Olympus"  ^&#@%^@!#@%&^!@%^@!#
	KAI OXI MONO TO EIPAN ALLA OI PRODUCERS TO EGRAPSAN KIOLAS ME 
KITRINA MEGGALA GRAMMATA...
	Telika 0a mas trellanoun oi edw me ta koufa pou petane ka0e ligo kai
ligaki. Prwta "emfylios" sthn Kypro, meta "Mount Olympus", e, sto telos
0a akousoume oti h Ellada einai prwteyousa ths A0hnas kai 0a xasw kai
ayta ta liga mallia pou exw o dystyxos.....


	Mhpws kapoios apo esas 3erei pote akribws agwnizontai OI KOUKODHMOS
KAI PAPAKWSTAS???

Xairetw,
yiannis


	OI OLYMPIAKOI ANHKOUN STON OLYMPO 
	KAI OI 0EOI KATOIKOUSAN STIS STHLES 
	TOU OLYMPIOU DIOS....  (amerikanikh ekdosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: ccc@cs.toronto.edu ("Christina C. Christara")
Subject: Re: Test 6 !
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:31:09 GMT

In article <199207231145.AA67346@cs.wisc.edu> PFK@UMUC.BITNET writes:
>
>   Test apo Pikaifh ton Poulopnixtra,Tsimpoukolaryggostra,Tsoutsounoleugie ...

0a to ektimousa idiaiterws av auta ta test stamatousav.
Episns to idio gia ta yeutika muvnmata, opws kai auta
pou eivai kai test kai yeutika muvnmata tautoxrovws.

X. Xrnstara
From: Sophie.Miao@coolcat.kittyland.usa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Hasan Mutlu, I'll be generous ...
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:00:41 GMT
Organization: Grooviecat Inc., Planet of the Cats .


   .... I acknoeledge you are a bit half-witted and slow and for this reason I
 Give you another 48 hours. But, this is your LAST chance . If you want to
 avoid utter humiliation, you'll have to make a public announcement on the net 
 unveiling the circumstances that led to the loss of your gone-away two balls.
 Okay, Hasan ?

 Mutlu's secret admirer, Dr Sophie Miao, the Cat .
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: macrakis@osf.org (Stavros Macrakis)
Subject: Re: Learning the Greek language
Organization: OSF Research Institute
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:37:36

In article <1992Jul21.102315.18188@u.washington.edu>
   janhsu@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi) writes:

   I would like to learn the greek language for historical and
   everyday use. Are there any good books?

You don't specify how far back in history you want to go, but if you
want both to read Plato and to talk to waiters, you need to study both
ancient and modern Greek.  New Testament Greek is in between.  It is
pretty easy if you've studied ancient Greek, but will be a bit more
work if you've studied only Modern Greek.

A confusing factor is that many books say just `Greek' instead of
`Ancient Greek' or `Modern Greek'.  You have to look inside to see
what they're talking about.

Although Greek has probably changed less from ancient times than has
Latin, I do not know of any books that will teach you both ancient and
modern at the same time.  Prof. Anne Farmakides at McGill University
had (has?) an excellent program in Greek language which takes a
diachronic approach, but this is I think the only one.

For adult self-study of Ancient Greek, the MIT Press textbook seems
quite good (I don't remember the exact name, but it's something like
"{Ancient,Classical,} Greek: A New Approach").  Most of the older
textbooks are rather stuffy.  The standard dictionary is Liddell and
Scott (in abridgements addressed to different levels).  The standard
reference grammar is Smythe (but you won't want to start with that).

I haven't looked at what is available in Modern Greek textbooks for a
while.  Farmakides' book had a pretty good reputation.  For a
reference grammar, Mackridge's Grammar of Modern Greek is excellent
(but you can't learn the language from it).  There are a lot of very
bad bilingual dictionaries out there, unfortunately, and I can't
recommend any.

I suggest you go to the best foreign-language bookstore in your city
and take a look at what is available.  If pickings are slim, ask
Schoenhof's Foreign Books (76A Mt. Auburn St., Cambridge, MA 02138,
Tel + 1 / 617 / 547 8855) if they can send you a list of available
Modern Greek materials (and possibly recommendations).

ccc@cs.toronto.edu ("Christina C. Christara") suggests that you
contact the Modern Greek Studies Association; they can point you
towards Modern Greek Studies programs, but they don't publish language
teaching materials nor can they recommend them.  I would not suggest
contacting Princton University Press or Pella Publishing, either,
since they publish rather specialized studies.

As ccc suggests any bookstore connected with a college/ university
offering Modern Greek will have the necessary textbooks in stock,
however these textbooks are often not the best for self-study.

Good luck!

(sorry I can't help more)

	-s
From: dominop@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Philippos A. Peleties)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: one more comment
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:54:03 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.greek
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Jul22.011849.20875@en.ecn.purdue.edu> bse@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Besime Erin) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.230021.19692@en.ecn.purdue.edu> dominop@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Philippos A. Peleties) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul20.222951.18105@en.ecn.purdue.edu> bse@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Besime Erin) writes:
>>>


(deleted lines)


>
>You cannot change a whole system ALL AT ONCE. 
>
>The Turkish and Greek Cypriots have lived apart for 18 years now.
>
>Talking specifically about the Turkish Cypriots.....
>The old set-up (i.e. the one before the intervention in 1974) has been 
>partially forgotten and most people have gotten used to the "new way". 
>i.e. living with their own kind, making their own decisions,self-determination. 
>
>There is also a new generation of people who have not interacted with
>the Greek Cypriots WHATSOEVER. They don't know what it feels to be a minority.
>They have lived among and were governed by their own kind, the Turkish Cypriots,
>all their lives.


That goes both ways. Perhaps the number should be increased to 29 years.


>
>Noone has any right to put these your Turkish Cypriot kids in a vulnerable
>position. This is very true for myself and my 16 year-old brother. 
>I was only 4 years old in 1974. My brother wasn't even born.
>We didn't live with the Greek Cypriots. Adjusting to a new situation ( if it
>happens that is) as members of a minority community and facing who-knows-what
>all at the same time would be nothing but DISASTROUS for us.
>
>It seems you are also not aware of the current frame or you choose to ignore it.
>
>The current platform: BIZONAL, BIFEDERATIONAL.
>


How do you regulate relocation?


>This has ALREADY been agreed by BOTH SIDES. 
>Such a platform is BEST FOR THE TURKISH CYPRIOTS at this time. 
>I don't care how the Greek Cypriots feel about that. That is the 
>bottom line platform and in any solution anything other that a 
>BIZONAL, BIFEDERATIONAL solution is SIMPLY UNACCEPTABLE to us. 
>
>

(a lot about suffering deleted)

My question is this: how do you regulate relocation? Once this is
answered, then perhaps we can go to questions of trust.


Philippos Peleties


-- 


I speak for myself, I think for myself, I work for myself ... but I don't want
to play by myself ... so bring your toys and let's share ...
Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:6892 soc.culture.turkish:8115
From: Pytheas@Massalia.univ-lyon1.fr (Pytheas Massaliotes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: 8ouln n Esxatn - Ultima Thule .
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:46:21 GMT
Organization: Universite de Lyon, France .


   Back from Thule .
From: bse@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Besime Erin)
Subject: Re: Why the Problem Cannot Be Solved (was Re: Denktash Inc.)
Keywords: taksim, highway robbery PLUS Caroutas's INSINCERITY.
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 16:08:57 GMT

In article <Jul21.161703.48104@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.225141.19342@en.ecn.purdue.edu>,
>bse@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Besime Erin) writes:
>>In article <Jul20.211509.64953@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas) writes:
>>
>>>Then return the land that doesn't belong to you.
>>
>>Well, you have to understand. We have been living on that land
>>for quite a while now. We don't want to make our people move 
>>and make them refugees once again. 
>
>Well, nothing more need be said.

If I knew it was going to help further the understanding between
the two communities and that it was going to promote peace and 
lay foundations for a better Cyprus,and that it was going to help resolve
the problem, and finally that my people will not be hurt too much 
because of it, I personally might be willing to rethink that position.

One other point I would like to make. I haven't been home since
last June. Although I am going home in two weeks, the views I express 
on the Cyprus issue at this point in time is attributed to nobody but 
myself. 


Sincerely,
Besime Erin


>--
>Constantinos A. Caroutas
From: dik@cwi.nl (Dik T. Winter)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: GREECE: EC's poorest member pushing
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:29:43 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

In article <1473100059@igc.org> hrcoord@igc.org (Human Rights Coordinator) writes:
...
Interestingly they managed to get the spelling of
 > maastrict
wrong 6 times out of 6.  It is Maastricht.  Or is it the name in some other
language?

(Not affiliated to Maastricht etc.)
-- 
dik t. winter, cwi, kruislaan 413, 1098 sj  amsterdam, nederland
home: bovenover 215, 1025 jn  amsterdam, nederland
dik@cwi.nl
Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:6695 soc.culture.turkish:7923
From: kutluk@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: H WPA EPXETAI ...
Keywords: ANACTACIC, KOKKINH MH/\IA, MOCXAPI, AIMA TOY MOYT/\OY .
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:43:00 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In <199207241147@AYTOKPATWP-PWMAIWN.Krypta.Agia-Sophia.Basileuousa.BYZANTION> Konstantinos-IA@Krypta.Agia-Sophia.Basileuousa.BYZANTION (konstantinos IA' Palaiologos) writes:


>   Mutlu, your time is coming !  You and your like scum is going to swim in blood 
>- your own blood - and the Holy City of Constantinople, the Queen of
the Cities,                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> the " hope and joy of all the Greeks " is going to be Greek again !

>                         O MAPMAPWMENOC BACI/\HAC
>                                      __
>                      KWNCTANTINOC DPA| ACHC .

It is clear that the holy emperor was uninformed of the changes
during his stay up in heavens. Or is it a typing mistake caused 
by the extra finger ? Someone also has to tell the high one that
to make Istanbul Greek the Greeks need to double their numbers
up to 20 million. (the problem of the Greek race since the time
of gods)

Kutluk

ps: But wait a minute, this can't be him, he'd never use the pagan word
Greek but address his Romans. Obviously another false emperor. 
Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:6852 soc.culture.turkish:8070
From: eesra@gdr.bath.ac.uk (R Akmese)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Genetically Coded Behavior
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:54:37 GMT
Organization: University of Bath, England

In article <1992Jul27.232009.18498@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> pef@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Panayotis Fouliras) writes:
>In <Jul21.162233.47790@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> cc433336@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas) writes:
>[..]
>>> Wow. I didn't think I can hear this from a Greek. So, you mean that
>>>Turks are really Greeks. I mean the Turks who were called Asian and
>>>barbarian by some well known persons. The Turks who are not Europeans.
>
>>What matters is the culture and not the genes.
>
>Still, the majority of the contemporary "true" Turks (i.e. non
>Kurds, etc) are stray cousins of ours and should be assisted to
>the correct road perhaps(?)...
>>--
>>Constantinos A. Caroutas
>

I am sure there is nothing one can learn
from a bunch of 'desperados' like yourselves let alone
a whole nation. Still, I cannot help noticing the century-old
complex... How long was that???
Ah! One more thing. I do know a few Greeks whom do not
necessarily show that. So, I very much hope that this is not
some chronic desease or something.

ReCeP AKMESE
University of Bath
U.K.
From: PFK@UMUC.BITNET (Pikaifhs Tsimpoukolaryggostras)
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Subject: Test 2
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:41:01 GMT
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 Test re, oxi tsimpouki !
From: PFK@UMUC.BITNET
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Subject: Test 6 !
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:53:53 GMT
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   Test apo Pikaifh ton Poulopnixtra,Tsimpoukolaryggostra,Tsoutsounoleugie ...