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From: brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What does she ride?
Summary: nostalgic remembrances
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:30:59 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <21756@sybase.sybase.com>, leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey Oster) writes:
> In article <Bs2A73.638@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers) writes:
> >
> >	Oh, you were going to tell us what bike you ride, and
> >where, and why, and stuff like that?   Great!  Let's hear it!
> >
> 
> '74 Honda CB360, and sure, you can call her a wimpy bike if you like,
> but *I still love her 'cause she's my first*   *sob* *sniff*  'Sides, I
> can maintain her myself -- the first motor-powered vehicle I've ever
> been able to say that about.  I saw a "naked" 'Wing at California Cycles
> a few months ago -- the mechanic had had to pull all the plastic off to
> get at the pertinent parts, swearing in the best DoD approved fashion
> the whole time -- and boy did it look strange without all the lettuce.

	Actually, it's a hell of a good bike.  When I owned "Jaws", a Kawasaki
	Mach IV 750 triple two-stroke, I went for a ride with John Harvey and
	Ray Straka.  John was riding a '74 Honda CB360, and toward the end of
	a weeks riding, John and I had a race up the redwood highway, running
	the narrow twisties at up to "DoD nominal", and it was all I could do
	to keep ahead of John.  So you see, Leigh Ann, it's not what you ride
	as much as how well you ride.  Your 360 is a classic, and a soldier that
	has won many awards on the roads of glory.

	Your bike was made back when bikes were made out of metallic materials,
	thus it is still around these eighteen years later.  I remember a quote
	from some "real machine" devotee, before it became politically incorrect
	to say such things; it went something like: "If you tossed a handgrenade
	into a parking lot full of rice, thirty people would be killed by flying
	plastic."

	And to this immortal archive of plasticatedjapcrapbashing, I'd like
	to humbly add my own immortal statement.  This happened some years ago
	at the first "Photo Ogle and Pizza Gobble" held at my house just prior
	to the "First Annual Second Assault on Rawlins Pass (tm)."  Devin Hooker
	was crowing about how he would strip the plastic off his bike and
	take it over Rawlins Pass (which he did, and which won him a $5.00 bill
	from me), and Tom Barber (CBR1000 "Hurricane") chimed in that "gee, maybe
	I ought to take the plastic off of my bike and ride it over Rawlins Pass",
	to which I responded, "But Tom, if you took all the plastic off of your
	bike, what would you ride?"  He has never forgiven me.
> 
> Thanks for asking!
> 
> - Leigh Ann

	Welcome.

-- 
    66
     >
     ^ .................. brucer "Demigod of the DoD" (DoDoD #0002)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: cars-v-bikes
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:39:48 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.191005.1415@tac.fi> tiok_jtk@tac.fi writes:
>I don't know any facts about the cars, but Kawasaki ZX-11 can do 60-0 (mph)
>in 129 feet. Of course it takes more with car, because a car is a LOT heavier
>than a bike.
>[...]
>
>   Jonne Siren

Of course?  Isn't it all dependent on the frictional forces of
braking?  Suppose the car is five times as heavy as the bike, then the
normal forces pressing its tires to the road are five times as great,
so (at least to a first approximation) the frictional force slowing it
down is five times as great.

So it must be other factors apart from the relative weights of the
vehicles that determine who stops quickest.  Given adequate brakes on
all wheels, vehicle weight alone should be a wash.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
From: jearls@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Jeffrey David Earls)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Gear
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:43:51 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <14me4cINNo9d@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 711838092@convex.convex.com, daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>>The question is, What is your Favorite Gear:
>>
>>Clearly FIRST Gear is the best gear. Are there any other opinions?
>

Well as the officially ordained Keeper of the Third Gear(tm) I've got to
get my two bits in here.

First and second gear are nice, so long as you've got plenty of space in 
front of you and don't really mind that the front wheel at the very least
bounces off the ground.  No one around here really _likes_ that 
sensation, do they?  ( :-) for the humor impaired)

But Third, that's the one.  You can leave it low and grunt from corner to
corner.  You can put in the midrange and scream through the sweepers at 
twice+ the advised speed (yellow signs).  Or you can send it above 7K to
pass cars fast enough to suck their headlights out with your wake.

Fourth and fifth are nice too.  But unless you're trying to break the land
speed record for crossing Montana or Nevada, you don't really need them.


--
===============================================================================
|Jeff Earls  jearls@tekig6.pen.tek.com | DoD #0530  KotTG  WMTC #0002  SF3.67 |
|'89 FJ1200 - Millennium Falcon -------+ "Hit the button Chewie!"... Han Solo |
|'86 VF500F - Anti-Christ              |                                      |
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Another question..(about Savage 650)
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:16:49 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

Has anyone got any SERIOUS mileages out of these things - on paper, the engine
ought to go on for ever! About the closest thing to a two wheel tractor
onm the market at present, (why they need an overhead cam at these revs, God
only knows!). I put 10-15k per year on a bike, so I like hearing people say
"It went round the clock before it croaked".
From: parny@milton.u.washington.edu (Philip Arny)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: gas tank rusty inside; how good is sealant?
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:15:50 GMT
Reply-To: parny@u.washington.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I've got an older honda which I rescued from storage.  The
gastank is quite rusty inside.  What's my best bet?  Should I put
in new inline fuel filters and ignore it; look for a new/used
replacement tank; or buy some of this gas tank sealant stuff?
How well does sealant work on an already rusty tank?  Is it a bad
or good thing?  Suggestions or comments please.

Philip Arny
parny@u.washington.edu
From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cages suck (women cagers)
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:04:25 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <63590@hydra.gatech.EDU>, ccastmm@prism.gatech.EDU (Mike Marler) writes:
>  Still my favorite
> activity to watch is the makeup application many women practice
> while driving - insurance companies should give a discount to
> women that don't do that :-).

How 'bout Mr. Businessman cutting that last deal while yammering on 
his car phone - you think he's likely to use a turn signal before he 
changes lanes and flattens you?

I also like the Harley dudes who set their bike on cruise control so 
they can roll a joint, very impressive.
...........................DR. Doom
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: niall@c3.PLA.CA.US (Neal Bedard)
Subject: Re: Cages suck (women cagers)
Organization: Cathode Ray Mission, San Jose
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:55:09 GMT

In article <ceOgA8a00WBOQ1IykB@andrew.cmu.edu> ch3c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christine Hogan) writes:
>Why do women let their Boy Friends drive their cars? 

"Why ask 'Why?'"...

At any rate, I'm not sure 'let' is the apropos word, at least in my experience.
Usually, it's more like 'demand'. I have a 60 mile round-trip commute: driving
a cage is not something I go out of my way to do more of, male ego or no.

However, it seems like I do (and have done) more than my share of driving with
women I have known, including Sandra, my wife. So, I'll add a few more
"reasons" to Christine's list to throw on the flames...

>1. Because men are hung up about driving and being in control for one. 
>2. Because women get sick and tired of the boy friend's back seat driving.

Because...

3. She wants to fiddle with hair/makeup/whatever in the visor mirror while en
route (or worse, she tweaks the rearview over _and_ turns on the dome light.)
Any of you 'ladies' guilty of this? Stop it, now. It's big-time rude.

4. She has a car she'd like me to try out 'cause she's proud of it (like a
friend's 944 I drove once. Not bad - for a cage, anyway...)

More often than not however, she'll just want you drive her car so you can
diagnose what's wrong with it, so she'll lay a good deal of male-ego stroking
on you to make the con stick. More than once these situations have driven me
to snap: "Gee, if you want your car fixed so bad, why don't you just date
Mister Goodwrench instead of me??" Not surprisingly, my lack of restraint here
generally made for a most unpleasant date afterward. Sigh...

(Then there's the "I don't touch motors until the third date..." or "I don't
know where that wheel bearing's been...") Hint to you women: have your car-
savvy man friend help you pick a trustworthy mechanic, then leave it at that.

5. She isn't used to city driving/has poor night vision/doesn't know the area/
etc. This is fine by me, though there are limits to my indulgence.

6. It's _her_ turn to drink. This is okay so long as _my_ turn comes in due
course.

7. She's a bad driver and she knows it (or worse, she doesn't...) Now, I don't
mind cautious driving, nor do I mind 'definitive' (mildly aggressive, but
well-controlled) driving. In either case, the driver's smoothness and self-
confidence is the key to keeping me calm in the passenger seat. A driver that's
too timid, too hyper - or worst of all, oblivious - has me clawing the armrests
every time.

Note: this applies equally, if not more so, to men I've ridden with.

Flame away...



-Neal
[niall@c3.com]
From: kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Dead Sidestand switch
Keywords: Sidestand switch
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:56:15 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


I noticed the oddest thing yesterday.  My sidestand kill switch
dosen't work anymore!  Don't ask me how I know, but it dosen't.
the bike runs fine and I took everything apart last night and checked
the wires and everything is connected.  It's probably been this way
for awhile since I don't for get very often, or I might have happened
yesterday. I am going to check the wireing diagrams tommorrow, but it
dosen't make sense to me as to why the bike runs.  The switch "clicks"
unlike when my brake-light switch went out so maybe it's not the
switch.  Does anyone know how how these things work?  If the switch
malfunctions is there a backup circut that takes over?  I don't want
to be running down the road and have the bike decide that the
sidestand is down when it isn't!  (Could be really dangerous)

BTW: I totally disconnected the switch and the bike still ran, even in
gear.

Thanks for  any advice,
Keith
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Keith Chu	Rutgers University	Computing Services
KCHU@pisces.rutgers.edu			DoD#379
KCCHU@remus.rutgers.edu		Dress to slide, not to ride
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From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The First Annual DoD Right Coast Ride comes to pass...
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:44:07 GMT
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA

In article <1992Jul27.214935.27334@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
>
>> It was the winter of despair (it's been cooking for 47 minutes now...)
>It was the winter of despair (it wasn't, I'm on my tenth bathroon stop in as many miles)
So it was the Chicken that did it?  I was wondering why I've had the squirts
ever since I left Boone...
>
>- Roid
>
>Ps: just kidding about that chicken.  getting my stomach pumped in Roanoke was all
>    that was necessary.  the doctor said it looked more like digested skunk than
>    chicken.  i never signed a release...

Dean

-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "Nothing is as over rated as a bad fuck or as       | '81 CB750C            |
| under rated as a good shit" -Laszlo Nemeth, DoD #666| '88 Bianchi Limited   |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Wet, Tired and Home!
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:15:42 GMT


Nothing beats riding long distances in the rain, except perhaps doing
much of it at night.

Several of us (Gonzalo, Marc Fusco, Tim Wright and this humble author) 
pulled out from the RCR sunday at 8:30, loaded up at Shoneys and then 
hit the road.  Gonzalo split to do some Blue Ridge Parkway after a while 
and Tim, Marc and I plodded north on I-81.

Around lunch time, one of the bikes (HD-FXSTC, BMW-K75 or Honda Shadow)
developed problems and had to be left at the side of the road (did
anyone see it near the 135 mile marker on I-81?) while we brought the
unfortunate soul to look for help.  After lunch, Marc and I continued
our journey north on I-81 and ran into the beginning of 300-350 miles
of rain.  Marc (the brain :-( ) suggested that we take I-66 east to DC
and then do I-95 back to NJ instead of staying on I-81 to I-78.  We
enjoyed traffic, unmarked pavement, uneven pavement, a sign that said
"Loose Gravel" and more asshole cages than you could flip the bird at.

I-95 sucks on a clean dry day but at night in the rain it is a real
party!  We looped around DC, did some kind of tunnel near Baltimore
(the straight pipes sound great in tunnels...), saw all of these
"Warning Motorcycles: open bridge joints" types of signs but missed
the hazards, sat in traffic for 10 minutes somewhere in MD or DE (or
on the bridge in between), saw Philly and eventually got home (at least
*I* made it.  Marc did you make it?  What about you Tim?  Was it the
battery?) around 11:15pm about 630 miles from the Tee-Pee.

The leather saddlebags had about an inch of water in the bottoms (good
thing I plastic-bagged everything) so I air-dried them today riding to
work.  My leather (fork) toolbag didn't fare as well.  The leather
got so soft from those hours doing hundreds of miles of rain that several
rivets pulled out.  But then, I didn't like the way the bike handled
with the tools on the fork anyway...

Tired, dry (now) and over that terrible hangover.  How many beers did
I drink anyway?

Thanks to Ed for running the whole thing, thanks to Tim for putting us
up on the way down, thanks to everyone for singing "Happy Birthday"
saturday night (it was my 32nd), thanks to Marc for taking the lead so I 
could veg-out, thanks to that asshole taxi on the beltway near DC for not 
killing us and thanks to my HD for not breaking down.

- Roid
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dmb@IEDV4.acd.com ( Dave Barker )
Subject: Re: 85 Nighthawk 650S Recomendation sought
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:39:19 GMT

>Answer 3)  Correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the engines were different. 
>Not merely "bored out" and I believe the 700 was a 5 speed where the 650
>was a 6-speed.  Also, if I'm not mistaken, the 700 is a chain drive vs a
>shaftie for the 650.  The 700 was trying to compete with other 700's that
>were chain drive.  Maybe Honda thought shaft drives cost too much to justify
>against other vendors' offerings.  The 5-speed gearing on the 700 accounted
>for the "around 4300-4500 rpm at 60mph" vs the 3950 rpm of the 650.  
>Ergonomically, I believe the 700 is slightly bigger with a longer
>seat.  I remember Cycle doing a comparison so check your library.  
>

	The 700 was the "Nighthawk S" model, which was/is a shaft drive, 
	6 speed. The "Nighthawk S" was styled quite different from the 650
	also, with a "bikini" fairing and lots of blackout detailing. 
	Included as part of the fairing package was a fuel gauge and LCD 
	gear indicator.
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 - The White Rims!!
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:18:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <76352@ut-emx.uucp> captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
>...Anyway, ms. smarty pants, what IS in Simple Green?

Edward G. Robinson.


On second thought, that was Soylient Green.

Last I heard, Simple Green and others like it contain some sort
of orange rind extract.
--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  -   "Worth Reposession"
DoD #094,  PBF #03  "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
From: davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Dave Edmondson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I got my baby back!
Keywords: wahoo, yipee
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:38:13 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London


>Running slightly oily to improve running in (*), blowing smoke all over the
>place,

>* - oil metering pump turned up so more oil comes into the motor.

I'm no 2-stroke expert but doesn't this effectively make the mixture leaner by 
displacing real petrol with oil.  It depends how much extra but you could end 
up running hot but oily.

Dave
--
David Edmondson                 davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
Queen Mary & Westfield College  DoD#0777 Guzzi Le Mans 1000
"Eccles never keeps his boots in his pocket."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood)
Subject: RCR and John's Shadow
Originator: pbh@jake
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:04:43 GMT

Anyone know the email address of John, the guy who went to 
RCR and his Shadow died on him?  I want to ask him about his
warranty service.

-- 
"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net," | DoD #1966	
	Matthew 13:47                              | 81 Honda CB400T Hawk
From: kcchu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (The Beach Bum)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Minimalistic biking-reply
Keywords: Necc. Switches
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:10:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: gandalf.Jul.31.11.10.52.1992.23098
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


From egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) Tue Jul 28 17:13:48 1992
>I know you're being sarcastic, but there is a complete school of
>thought among motorcyclists that believes exactly that (with the
>possible exception of the turn lights).  They would also remove the
>tach, and the netural indicator, probably the speedometer/odometer if
>legal.

>
>How about it?  What is the minimum instrumentation or controls
>necessary/desirable for a motorcycle?

>You gadget-freaks, what is the benefit of a 747 cockpit on a bike?



on the EX500 I have a left and right turnsignal light, that I like, I
have never gotten used to just having one. (Pet Peve) I have a
highbeam indicator which dosen't seem to be of much use on the bike,
You can see it and I check to see that it is on every morning before
the commute. Oil light - I would rather have an oil pressure gauge.
Headlight out indicator, could come in handy since I commute every day
It would let me know if the light goes out in the daytime so I can
replace the bulb.  Tach and Speedo w/trip od.  necc. to stay out of
the way of the troopers. Fuel guage not necc with a trip odometer and
a res.

I can see with some peoples feelings about guages and not wanting any
or having just a few, but with riding almost every single day of the 
year, I like to make things a little easier on the commute. I keep one
of those ski thermometeres on my tank bag so that I know the outside
temp in the winter.  I find that little things like that may save me.
If I was just riding around for JUST fun and recreation maybe I
could see somepeople's feelings about the guages.  But for me I like
to have as much information about my mount as possible.

Keith
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KCHU@pisces.rutgers.edu			DoD#379  88'EX500
KCCHU@gandalf.rutgers.edu		Dress to slide, not to ride
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Flame Bait
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:34:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Jul22.153407.18205
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <2793@monarch.array.com> kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy) writes:
>boardman@cancer.unm.edu (Bob Boardman) writes:
>: In article <ASBAIBI.92Jul14160734@jade.tufts.edu>,
>:     asbaibi@jade.tufts.edu (Ahmed Sbaibi) eloquently discourses:
>: >
>: >Bikers suck shit
>: >
>: 	Now I get it - he's just trying to see whether his system manager
>:   has set up their mail system robustly enough to handle large bursts of
>:   incoming traffic.  We might as well accommodate him, don't you think?
>: 
>:   -Bob
>: 
>
>I've seen this dickweed in a couple of other groups just trying to stir up 
>some shit and be recognized and made to feel important.  He's not worth my
>time.

Well, you could always just phone him.  His office number is 508-381-2021.
Of course, there's no guarantee it was really him that sent the message.
--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  -   "Worth Reposession"
DoD #094,  PBF #03  "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007