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From: heiser@acs.bu.edu (William Heiser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ATI Graphics Ultra Plus--what drivers avail?
Date: 3 Jan 93 02:41:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1993Jan2.175301.19755@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>For OS/2 2.0 (without the Service Pak): 640x480-256, 800x600-256, and
>1024x768-256, from ATI.  None support "seamless" Win-OS/2 at present.
>The ATI Ultra and Vantages series are 8514/A hardware compatible, so
>they operate with the stock 8514/A driver in OS/2 2.x.  That provides
>1024x768 in 256 colors, and it is the recommended mode of operation at
>present for that resolution.  Do not set a refresh rate greater than

If both the ATI driver and the 8514/a driver support 1024x768-256,
why is the 8514/a driver preferred?  That's the mode I'm running with,
but am curious about the ATI driver, as I've heard the ATI mode would
be faster than the 8514/a mode.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: leave OS/2 running - the monitor too?
From: oecn_smith@mec.ohio.gov
Date: 24 Dec 92 08:48:58 -0500
Reply-To: smith@leeca.oecn.ohio.gov
Distribution: world
Organization: Metrop. Educ. Council, Columbus, OH

In article <23DEC199219564973@utarlg.uta.edu>, b259phl@utarlg.uta.edu (PHILIP LIPPEL) writes:
>> This is true with all computer equipment BTW. Switching a machine on and
>> off does really bad things to your system, *on a long term basis*. Most
>> users don't have the ability to buy a power conditioner and surge protector.
>> 
>>>O.k. now, but what about the monitor? Would it be advisable to
>>>switch off the monitor overnight (assuming that one does not work
>>>overnight...)?
>> 
>> Hmm, I wouldn't do that, for the same reason. BTW, if you are going to
>> switch the monitor off, why not shut down the CPU too?
> 
> Well most of us turn our TV's on and off on a daily basis and their lifetime
> seems pretty reasonable to me. Monitors are much the same as TV's
> , and I treat mine the same way.
>  CPU's? I don't know anybody who has had the CPU on his PC fail, at
> least not before same CPU became obsolete in the sense that it could be replaced
> with a faster, more capable model for a very small amount of money. It is DISKS
> that are the problem. DISKS DO fail, and unfortunately for those of us who would
> like to be energy-conscious, they seem to fail more often if they are turned 
> on and off than if they are left on continuously. Presumably this is because the
> spin up/spin down operations are much harder on the bearings than continuous
> rotation (or some similar effect). 

Hmm, I would have to agree with Philip.  I still have my first machine (an 8088
XT clone I bought about 8 years ago).  The machine has been left on almost
continuously during that period... and to date I have yet to replace any of the
original parts (looking for some piece of wood to knock on).

I have taken this same approach with my 386 and the HP-260 I have just bought.
These have run round the clock together for the past several months, and I have
not seen any appreciable increase in my electic bill.

bob -- smith@leeca.oecn.ohio.gov

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Random Beeps while running Service Pack
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:06:45 GMT

Charles Inman (chasi@netcom.com) wrote:

> Aside from some occassional system lock ups, everything seemed to be fine,
> however in the past couple days both systems have begun exhibiting the same
> strange problem.  For no apparent reason, every so often the systems will beep
> 1, 2 or 3 times.  This behavior seems to be completely random, I have not been
> able to determine any specific action that will cause it.

> Sometimes it will occur while the system is booting and sometimes it won't.
> Sometimes it will happen when I execute an application and sometimes it won't.
> It's not a devastating problem, but it is a kind of anoying problem.

You haven't started running DINFO have you? It can beep to tell you about
changes in the size of swapper.dat and the amount of free space on the
swapper drive.

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: brown-sh@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (shawn c brown)
Subject: Re: leave OS/2 running - the monitor too?
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:01:01 GMT

In article <1ha9faINN5ch@travis.csd.harris.com> kbeal@amber (Ken Beal) writes:
>Fritsch_Wolfgang (pfr@drsrv1.hmi.de) wrote:
>: Someone discussed here the pros and cons of leaving OS/2 running
>: 24 hours a day. The main argument was that this means less wear to the
>: electronics than switching on/off does.
>: 
>: O.k. now, but what about the monitor? Would it be advisable to
>: switch off the monitor overnight (assuming that one does not work
>: overnight...)?
>
>That would be best.  Monitors don't draw quite as much power as a computer,
>but every little bit helps.

	I don't know where you got your information but monitors draw a
great deal more power than the compters themselves...

Shawn Brown
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: roelle@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Curtis Roelle)
Subject: Re: Need util to allow .EXE to run in a window
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:44:36 GMT

hankedr@mail.auburn.edu (Darrel Hankerson) writes:

>In article <1992Dec29.185435.2921@seas.gwu.edu> ilan@seas.gwu.edu (Ilan Berkner) writes:
>>
>>I used to have this program that would allow an OS/2 executable to run
>>in a windowed OS/2 session.  Apparently, some non-PM OS/2 programs have

>Get tag from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in pub/os2/1.x/programming/ and try
                                          ^^^
> tag /win filename

>tag is advertised as a public-domain markexe.

Try the "all" subdirectory rather than the "1.x" directory.

Curt
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: qintar@agora.rain.com (Jim Seymour)
Subject: Does ANYBODY have a working XGA-2 + 8513 under OS/2?
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:56:18 GMT

Has ANYBODY gotten OS/2 to work in XGA modes with a microchannel XGA/2
adapter plus an IBM 8513 or 8515?  I'm on a Model 70-121 and have tried
both the GA plus the GA+SP with no luck.  It works fine in VGA mode, 
but OS/2 will not even boot if I Selective Install it into XGA mode.
It either locks up hard just before the Workplace shell screen is to 
be painted, or it REBOOTS on me at that point.  I've tried everything
I can think of (even called IBM a few times and unfortunately, they
were no help). 

If it matters:  I've got a Soundblaster MCV as well as a Memory Expansion
Adapter (non-IBM) in the other two slots.  Total system memory = 10MB.
Also, the XGA works just fine under DOS (but not a DOS VDM under OS/2).

     -Jim Seymour                                qintar@agora.rain.com
     =================================================================
      No, I am NOT the "real" Jim Seymour that writes for PC Magazine
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     Cipher Systems, Inc.,    P.O. Box 329,    North Plains, OR  97133
From: cambria@smaug.enet.dec.com (Michael C. Cambria)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IDE and SCSI together???
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:40:14 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Dec23.165027.37184@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (BRIAN PAUL VAN LIEU) writes...
> 
>    Hi folks,
> 
>        I am a bit confused about some stuff I have read lately. I had always
>        thought that you could nave one and only one controler card. I read an
>        article the other day that clearly said 'Both an IDE and a SCSI card
>        can co-exhist peacefully'.
> 
>        Is this true, especially under OS/2?
> 
>        I am contemplating buying a CD-ROM, and I want to upgrade my system to
>        a SCSI drive over the summer, but all I have now is an IDE drive. I
>        was thinking of getting the Adaptec 1542b card, and running the CD off
>        of that. DO I also need to get a SCSI HD, or will OS/2 pick up the IDE
>        drive and its controller too? (I know an IDE drive can not run off of
>        a SCSI card...)
> 
>        This might sould like a silly question, but the things I have read,
>        and been told, conflict.
> 
>                                            cheers,
> 
>                                            bvl
>-- 
> 
>  Brian P. Van Lieu
>  Lehigh University-AXP
>  lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
> 
>            OS/2 2.0...anything else is just a DOS.

I run both IDE and SCSI (Future Domain 1680) in my Gateway 2000 386/33
with no problems.  I have a 120MB IDE & 520 SCSI disk.  No CD yet.  Its
in the mail.

I have FAT & HPFS on partitions on both physical disks.  OS/2 has no
problems at all in this configuration.

/Mike
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.misc:40880 comp.os.os2.advocacy:11384
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Did microsoft really write an OS/2 "Terminator" crash prog?
Keywords: terminator microsoft crash
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:40:05 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <laird.725643909@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu> laird@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) writes:
>>Hmmm... I heard that they would just delete CONFIG.SYS and hit Ctl-Alt-Del.
>>That's devastating enough.  Combine that with a well place "pssst!  We've
>>got a program that'll crash OS/2 everytime" rumor and you can do the same
>>amount a damage -- and all low tech.
>Shouldn't a COMDEX exhibitor take precautions against this sort of thing?
>While C2 security might be overkill, something simple seems necessary.
>I'd sure love some simple security that would keep people from deleting
>files like config.sys.  I thought that something like that was available
>for OS/2, but I can't recall.

PC/DACS (available at a trial price of $49 from Pyramid -- don't know
if that offer still holds) does just what you ask.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lkawecki@novell.com (Lewis Kawecki)
Subject: Re: Opinion:  What IBM should change in OS/2
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:11:35 GMT

I am fully support the idea of better error messages.  The current error
messages are usually lacking.  I am looking forward to the speed improvements
in the 2.1 WPS.

I would like to see more configurability for the WPS and OS/2 windows.

For example:
	It would be nice if the use could decide if they want to change windows
by just moving moving the cursor (like X) or by clicking the mouse.  The user
should also be able to decide if the active window always comes to the fore-
ground or if the title bar has to be clicked on to bring a windows to the fore-
ground.

	It would be nice if OS/2 windows has as many configuration parameters
as the DOS boxes (a jump scrolling option would be really nice!).

<<------------------------------------------------------------------------->>
<< In real life:     Lewis R. Kawecki      |  OS/2 2.0 is not just another >>
<< Internet Address: lkawecki@novell.com   |  program...                   >>
<< Work Phone:       (408) 473-8941        |  It is a way of life!!        >>
<<------------------------------------------------------------------------->>
<< My comments and statement do not reflect those of anyone except myself  >>
<<------------------------------------------------------------------------->>
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Hot-key to kill WPS?
Summary: (THis belongs in a DV conference...)
Date: 3 Jan 93 17:47:06 GMT
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Followup-To: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates

In article <1993Jan3.041645.29679@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>Timothy F. Sipples (sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
>
>> However, for better or worse, Microsoft has redefined CTRL-ALT-DEL
>> (although they probably weren't the first).  
>
>Well, DesqView redefined CTRL-ALT-DEL quite a while ago. I found it
>EXTREMELY useful. It is redefined in such a way that you can still argue
>that its function has not changed - it reboots the machine. In the DV case

(Speaking as a big DV supporter, though now becoming a convert to OS/2...)

I think redefining C/A/D *was* a mistake (in DV).  They could have used some
other keystroke combination.  The problem is that some apps do their own
C/A/D processing (at this moment, I know of only one, Carbon Copy) and
this conflicts with DV when the app is run under DV.  Note, BTW, that
you can redefine the "Reboot Window" keycombo, using DV's setup, but
it doesn't solve the problem, because DV still traps the C/A/D combo,
shielding apps running under DV windows from seeing it.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: johnw@wixer.cactus.org (john winthrop)
Subject: Re: Did microsoft really write an OS/2 "Terminator" crash prog?
Keywords: terminator microsoft crash
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 06:03:52 GMT

a simple well-known "trick" to crash os/2 is to enter debug in a dos
session, and assemble something like:
    100   cli
    101   jmp 100
It has to do with the fact that most systems don't have a "watchdog
timer" to sense if interrupts have been disabled for too long.

Many,many short programs will do similar things, and it would be fairly
easy to write a program that would be trapped under windows, but would
crash os/2... Most of the programs, however, are due to flaws in PC
architecture, NOT the OS.

-- 
John Winthrop                    | "The only solution is:
johnw@wixer.cactus.org           |  cd /
cactus.org!wixer!johnw           |  rm -rf ."
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ammon@picasso.iam.unibe.ch (Lorenz Ammon)
Subject: 8MB OS2SYS.INI-File
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Berne, Switzerland
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:12:39 GMT

First of all "MERRY CHRISTMAS and a HAPPY NEW YEAR"

I've got a big problem: My OS2SYS.INI takes about 8 MBytes of my diskspace
and it is still growing bigger and bigger ...
I had a look at the os2sys.ini with EPM and realized that most of the 8MBytes
are taken by the same block showing up repeatedly.

My systemsetup:

- OS2 2.0 American version
- CSD  ..055
- Trident.drv 32 (800x600x256) from Hobbes
- SBOS2 V0.91 driver with Soundblastr 1.5
   for playing mods (track1.exe/track.exe) (from Hobbes) 
- HPFS-partition for OS2 Sytem
   but also a Fat-partition for OS2 Apps

- i486 12MB AmiBios

Does anybody know if this is a bug in the CSD or in another os2-program ?
How can I shrink the os2sys.ini-file to its normal size without loosing information ?
Which of my programs could be the reason for my troubles ?


						Lorenz Ammon (ammon@iam.unibe.ch)
From: tedc@cs.ubc.ca (Ted Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: disappearing cursor in TE/2
Date: 1 Jan 1993 17:20:56 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: pacific.cs.ubc.ca

In article <105899@bu.edu> heiser@acs.bu.edu (Bill Heiser) writes:
>
>This is TE/2 2.0 and OS/2 2.0, the standard distribution without the SP.
>

Version 2.0 of TE/2 has now been released? Is it on hobbes?

---
Ted Chen    <tedc@ee.ubc.ca>


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore)
Subject: Re: I thought OS/2 was popular for not locking up?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:24:55 GMT

> [why does os/2 lock up .... etc]

I know it's not much comfort, but the "trap" message output is not quite the
same thing as a crash, a true crash being where the CPU goes wild and perhaps
proceeds to wipe out your hard disk.
Also, the fact that it outputs a diagnostic including the address of the
problem makes it more likely that it will be corrected (you are going to
file a problem report right ?). BTW, trap 000e is a page fault, and is quite
serious.

                                                  [sam]

-- 
Scott A. Moore [SAM]  | "Cash is more 
samiam@netcom.com     | important than your 
Santa Cruz, CA USA    | mother"
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr)
Subject: Probably everybody's sick of this (was: Slowww PM/WPS after SP)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, OH
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:39:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.085835.9029@cs.brown.edu> wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni) writes:
>I used to love WPS/PM, but I don't now. After the service pak,
>My Diamond Speedstar+ looks like an old dog. OS/2 windows appear
>in segments. I can't even run the old display drivers since the
>setup menus and books are incorrectly displayed.

>Anyone know how to speed it up? Thanx!

Wen-Chun,

I suspect that the net is is sick of talking about slowness problems
with the Diamond lack-of-Speedstar cards and Diamond's "get lost"
attitude toward OS/2.  I know I am and I'm stuck with this Diamond
Speedstar I used to like very much when I was a Windows 3.1 user.
From what I hear, I'm going to have to upgrade to an accelerated card.

Still, your complaint that PM is slow seems odd to me.  I feel that
PM is a little quicker with the new SP drivers than with the Orchid
Pro drivers, 256 vs 16 color notwithstanding.  However, windowed
VIO and VDM sessions are slower...  much slower than before and
windowed TE/2 session are extremely slow.  

(In fact, a windowed TE/2 session slows the ENTIRE system to a crawl,
anybody know anything about this?  I am formatting some floppy disks
in a windowed VIO session as I write this.  I foolishly tried to run
TE/2 in a window and the formats took five minutes and longer, but
now that I'm running TE/2 fullscreen, they finish is 1 - 2 minutes.)

If PM is slower for you and not just windowed VDM and VIO sessions,
then perhaps:

	1) You have yet another combination of symptoms than
	   those I'm familiar with.
or
	2) Maybe your Speedstar is in 8-bit mode which would
	   tend to slow things down overall.
or
	3) Who knows?

I don't know how to check if a Speedstar is in 8-bit mode, but a help-
ful person told me that if I had an 8-bit card with ROM in the C0000 -
CFFF0 address range, then my SVGA board would be forced into 8-bit mode.
I have a WD1007A with a ROM, but it's a 16-bit card in a 16-bit slot.
That doesn't guarantee that my Speedstar is in 16-bit mode or that there
isn't some other bizarre interaction, though.  Anybody know?  Please?

Larry
-- 
Larry A. Shurr (las@cbnmva.att.com) speaking only for myself.
Norman, listen carefully.  I am lying.  Are you sure your circuits are
registering?  Your ears are green.  Logic is a little bird singing in a
meadow.  Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad! - Mr. Spock
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 beta - some first-hand info
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 09:28:51 GMT

Chris McClellen (chris@cad.gatech.edu) wrote:

> Secondly, the beta with the 32bit stuff (remember this is that beta you 
> could order from IBM that was out a couple of months after GA), was
> SLOWER than the GA.  Wierd.

Not so weird. It's a BETA. It's for testing. There will be beta code in
there tha won't be in the released version. Never used #ifdef DEBUG? :-)

-- 
Tom J Parry.
Your reality is a figment of my imagination.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Screen goes blank upon bootup of OS.2 2.0, HELP
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:20:13 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <457@casemo.UUCP> keating@casemo.UUCP (John Keating ) writes:
>>	I finally got around to installing OS/2 on
>> my clone but I have had a few problems.  The first error
>> was the one were the number c00000005 came up on the screen.
>> I got the fix for that which apparently worked.  Now when
>> I boot up, the three OS/2 windows come up, then they disapper,
>> a two line message appears for a split second then disappers.
>> After that nothing happens.  When I start pushing buttons
>> the Hard Drive is accessed and sometimes an annoying boink is made.
>> Anybody know whats wrong?  
>> Your desktop did not get built properly, it seems.  Follow the
>> procedure in the manual for using MAKEINI to rebuild the desktop.
>I'm not sure about that...  From personal experience, it sounds like a video
>problem...  With my Gateway and a Local Bus ATI GUP card, I had to make sure
>that during setup of my video card, I had the monitor set to VGA, rather than
>to the specific monitor type.
>I'm still experiencing the problem if I try to add com3 or com4 to my system.
>(3,3e8,5) (4,2e8,2)...  Video disappears, but the system has actually been
>started..

Quite possible, although I don't recall if the original poster
specified he was using an ATI Graphics Ultra Plus with a Gateway 2000.

See if changing (4,2E8,2) to (4,2E8,9) helps solve that COM problem
for you.  Also, give the SIO COM drivers a try, available via
anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, filename sio020.zip, directory
/pub/uploads (although they will be moved).

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