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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk (Iain Laskey)
Subject: Re: X-Control Problem and Request
Reply-To: ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 18:36:00 +0000

>it away.  For one reason or another, my modem.cpx bombs when I
>activate it.  And I seem to recall a discussion of this when xcontrol
>was first made available.

I believe the early version of the Modem CPX had been set to load
into TT ram or something similer. If you set the flags for ST ram then
it works OK. Failing that, just get the latest version of CPX
which works fine.

 +---------------------------------------------------+---------------+
 | I don't want to start any blasphemous rumours,    | Atari ST user |
 | But I think that God's got a sick sense of humour | Unix user     |
 |                                 - ML Gore         |               |
 +---------------------------------------------------+               |
 | DOS sucks - Give me Unix!                         +---------------+
 | ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk                       | Iain R Laskey |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dcrevier@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dan Crevier)
Subject: Atari ST Programming Books for sale
Keywords: atari forsale
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 23:03:59 GMT

I have the following ST Programming Books for sale that I will sell for $10
each including shipping.  Please reply to dcrevier@jarthur.claremont.edu.

Fractal Programming in C (Actually, this is not an ST book, but includes C
source)
Atari ST Tricks and Tips (Abacus)
Atari ST Machine Langauge (Abacus)
Atari ST GEM Programmer's Reference (Abacus)
COMPUTE!'s ST Applications Guide: Programming in C
Programmer's guide to GEM

Thanks

Dan

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: matthias@asl.uni-bielefeld.de (Matthias Ehrhard)
Subject: AT-Speed program wanted and problems
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 13:23:25 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bielefeld, ASL.

Hi, 
I have got AT-Speed 2.0 and I wonder if there is any higher version
avaible and where can I get that version?
Would someone sell his version?

Has anyone the problem that the system crashed after pressing space-bar, too?
(especially by wordperfect 5.1)

I would be glad if anyone could help me

Matthias
From: oliver@westw.rd.open.de (Oliver Klink)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: OS/2 HPS and Atari file format
Keywords: Compatible???
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:32:28 GMT
Organization: OPeN Open Personal Network, Rendsburg-Eckernfoerde

In <1992Aug26.111812.17058@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John) writes:

>I'm sure that IBM machine will be able to read Atari files (under
>the old filename system) could an Atari read files created under
>OS/2's high performance filesystem?

OS/2's HPFS Filesystem is for harddrives only, because it only
reaches best efficiency on partitions >= 60 MB. So OS/2-diskettes
are still in MS-DOS-format and can be read by the Atari ST/TT!

Bye,
 Oliver

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From: elvis@watserv.ucr.edu (Andrew  Cullum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Phantom Typist? (and other things)
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:45:25 GMT

Hi,
  I remember long ago hearing about the Phantom Typist.  At the time I had
never experienced any such thing, so foolhardy soul that I am, I ignored
all the information about it.  However, since I upgraded to Tos 1.4 (and at the
same time I installed a D.E.K.A. and IBM keyboard) I have been having problems 
with the computer thinking that keys are being held down.
Sometimes it doesn't happen at all, sometimes it happens quite frequently.
It also does not seem to matter if I have used the keyboard at all.  The 
favorite keys for this seem to be ALT and ESC.  The latter is particularly
annoying on the desktop, as it updates the windows many, many times before the
buffer clears.  As soon as I hit the repeating key for real, it stops.  By the
time I realize what is going on, however, there's usually quite a number of
the character in the buffer.  Anyways, does this sound like the Phantom
Typist?  If so, was there ever any solution discovered?  Any help would be  
appreciated.

Also, I was wondering if anyone has information on PowerDOS yet, like where it
is available?  I know that DragonWare is realising it as freeware, but do you
have to get it from them?  Or will it be available at anonymous sites?  Or has
there been no word yet?  Am I simply rambling?

Thanks in advance for any replies,

Andrew Cullum (elvis@watserv.ucr.edu)
From: joeadato@tcpbbs.pcn.org (Joseph Adato)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: FTP Sites?
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 21:58:40 EDT
Organization: TCP BBS, Cleveland, Ohio

easteee@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:

> Does the ST have any good, fast IBM emulators written for it yet?
> I've heard of a few in the past, but I've also heard they run at
> snail's pace.  Do they run a little faster with more memory?  Are
> any programs like this available at the ST FTP site(s)?  Where ARE
> some ST FTP sites, anyway??   
>        wondering--
>  

Lets see.. There's SuperCharger, an external XT emulator with a meg of
its own RAM.  Then there are the 286 emulator (have to be installed 
inside your ST) AT Once and AT-Speed C16 and a 386 emulator AT-Speed
386 (also has to be installed inside your ST).

Does that answer your question??
From: oliver@drunol.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari marketing was: ding dong.. who's there ? Dr who..
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:48:16 GMT
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen

vombruch@quando.quantum.de (Stefan vom Bruch) writes:

>There wasn't much he could do apart from telling us what might be possible
>and what could be done - not because the Falcon isn't able to handle it at the
>moment but simply because the software isn't available yet. That's hardly
>surprising however, considering the fact that the Falcon has just been
>released.
>Apart from that, when he was talking about image processing for instance, 
>he mentioned the photo-CD - a medium which itself isn't available yet.
>The few demos they had showed real potential - a demo says more than 
>1000 words.

Ever heard of not telling the truth. A good seller sells you everything
HE wants, even if there is nothing on that thing YOU need. So, it's easier
if the sold object is a very nice computer and you like computers, BUT
if you want to sell it to a lot of people -and not just the few, who want
to do a voicemailbox with it- you must tell them what they CAN do and not
what they COULD do (even if it's not true).

Oliver

P.S. I think honesty is a virtue.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,rec.audio,sci.skeptic
From: egates@triton.unm.edu (EL GATES)
Subject: Re: sampling and human hearing range (was Re: (none))
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 19:27:56 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <+qwn34l.payner@netcom.com> payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne) writes:
>In article <JT0yqB3w165w@tsoft.sf-bay.org> bbs.ruscal@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Russel Mar) writes:
>
>>=======================
>>Having used a Hybrid Arts (R.I.P.) ADAP sampler, I can tell you that the 
>>accepted minimum requirement is to sample at 2x the max. freq. you want 
>>to reproduce/record.  If you are baffled, look up the Nyquist Theorem;  
>>CD's sample at 44.1k and DAT at 48kHz for this reason also.
>
>DATS sample at 48KHZ so that one cannot make a direct digital copy from
>CD's to DATs. 
> 
>>--

Actually DATs sample at a higher frequency because the sound reproduction
is better.  I good DAT recorder will be able to record at both 44.1kHz
and 48kHz, though I think these models are only available to the 
professionals at this point.  You won't have problems copying CDs either
if you convert the output of the CD to analog output (like you have to
do so that you will hear the sound out of your speakers anyway) and then
record it onto digital tape.  Granted there will be some degeneration in
the signal due to all the processing going on, but most people won't 
even hear the difference (unless you are a recording engineer -- since
most people are not accustomed to listening that closely to the recording
quality).

BTW, the reason that CDs  only sample at 44.1 kHz is that when they 
first came out that was about the best they could do and then couldn't
up the sampling rate since so many people had already bought CD players
for the 44.1kHz sampling rate.  It also turns out (I believe) that a
sampling rate higher than 48 kHz doesn't really get you anything as far 
as better quality reproduction, (again see Nyquist Theorem) and does 
get more expensive to make good AD converters.


El


egates@triton.unm.edu


Disclaimer:  All opinion here are mine and noone else can claim them
for their own.
From: REEVES@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Terry Reeves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PD CAD-package
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:02:06 GMT
 <1992Sep09.142344.22642@syscon.rn.com>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Speaking of GFA Draft, has anyone out there ever cooked up a printer
description that allows GFA Draft to print to the Diablo emulator for
an Atari SLM804?

                                                       Terry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: malay@sae.com (Bob Malay)
Subject: TeX Question
Reply-To: malay@sae.com
Organization: Template Software
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:33:31 GMT


I want to print the Uniterm documentation using TeX on our SparcStation - when I
do:

                      latex ug.tex

TeX complains about not finding the font "cmss8" - I checked and it is not in the
TEXFONTS directory, but it appears that I can "make" one using MetaFont. How do
I go about doing this (MetaFont is installed and I tried "cmmf cmss8" but this
only created a "cmss8.2602gf" file not a "cmss8.tfm"). I'm a bit confused. Can
anybody help???

Sorry for posting this to "atari.st" but I know there are a bunch of TeX`ites out
there,

Bob Malay
From: root@darkman.Berkeley.EDU (Root)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Tek terminal emulation program?
Keywords: tek
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:09:52 GMT
Reply-To: root@darkman.Berkeley.EDU (Root)
Organization: IBM, Austin

Uniterm (shareware i think) does a decent job of tek4014 emulation.  
There should be copies around on BBSs.  I think I got my copy from 
a Compuserve SIG.

/\/\	a	r	k		/\/\	o	o	r	e
From: easteee@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: FTP Sites?
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:52:18 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

Does the ST have any good, fast IBM emulators written for it yet?
I've heard of a few in the past, but I've also heard they run at
snail's pace.  Do they run a little faster with more memory?  Are
any programs like this available at the ST FTP site(s)?  Where ARE
some ST FTP sites, anyway??   
       wondering--
 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Subject: Atari users group meeting
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: seattle
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:32:45 GMT

Our second Atari users group will be held in Johnson 119 on the UW campus
this Sunday night at 7:00.  I'll have my TT there!  Also, anyone
interested can bring CD's or tapes to digitize...  It should be an
interesting meeting.

If you have any questions, feel free to call me at 522-8641.

Dan Aylward
dud@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Re: ZOO/ZIP/ARC/LZH - why not ARJ?
From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 16:41:36 +1200
Reply-To: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
Organization: Equinox Networks, ChCh, New Zealand * Private Node: Yonder
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

In <8eck4=200awJAJJIFk@andrew.cmu.edu>, Stefan Monnier writes:

>You can use different weighting for the importance of speed 
>compared to size ! Of course, LHarc is the worse if time is important
>as it always uses a slow but quite efficient algo.
>If size is more important, on the other hand, it will be 2nd !
>
>One thing is sure: ZIP is the best in this bechmark !
>
>For the rest, you can interpret the result as you wish !
>Personnally, I only use archives for their size (to store on 
>floppy, or just to gain room on my small HD) so that
>speed is not really an issue but size is !
>
>If I want to be fast, I just don't compress at all!

I just wish that there was an ARJ compressor for the ST, the UNARJ leaves
 the others for dead, it's compression is better than everything else,
 and it's speed it only very slightly slower than the fastest one!
Any of you people in .tech reading this feel like writing one? :-)

some results from a test I did a while ago....



--------------------------------------------------------------------------
The test was on :  34 files, 231065 bytes uncompressed

     Method    Size compressed   Time to decompress
     ------    ---------------   ------------------ 
       LZH        109900 bytes    38.5 sec
       LZH v5      88268          43.9
       ARC        129045          39.5
       ZIP        110628          25.2
       ZOO         89462          40.7
       ARJ         87812          26.4

---------------------------------------------------------------------------


 Craig.


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From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca ( John Henders )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization:  One of these days for sure
Subject: Re: / man confusion.
	<1992Sep08.205732.5916@convex.com>
Reply-To: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 04:30:08 -0700

In <1992Sep08.205732.5916@convex.com>, William Rosenkranz writes:
>
>......note
>that this ONLY works with monochrome now (unless u make a set of fonts
>for med rez and rebuild manpager - source for nroff, manpager, and man
>has been posted).

	One thing I couldn't find in the man package was any info on how
to change the fonts. Are they built into the pager? I find the default 
ones show up a bit large, and would like to change them. What fonts
are they compatble with?


-- 
jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca
From: 6500dtpt@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (David Tipton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: magazines for sale
Keywords: magazines
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:47:40 GMT
Distribution: comp

I have a HUGE stack of ST magazines I'd like to sell...
STart (even #1), ST-Log, ST Applications, Compute's Atari ST,
ST-Express, the list goes on...even some from the
U.K. (Atari ST User, ST World).  None of them have disks.
There are about 60 of them, altogether.  Leave me e-mail
if you are interested (I don't typically read this
conference...more of an 8-bit sort.)  I'm hoping to sell
the whole bundle for about $30 (and that includes shipping)...
I'm not interested in making a huge profit.  I just don't
want to throw them away (I am sure someone wants them)
and the shipping is going to cost a lot (they are HEAVY).
From: don@terminus.gatech.edu (Don Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ST questions: GCC 2.2, FPUs and image converters
Keywords: GCC, FPU, PI3
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:35:29 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Sep14.235431.6556@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu) writes:

(The >>'s are Howard quoting me)

>
>Yes, GCC 2.2 has been ported to the ST. I thought it was already on
>atari.archive, I guess not. I can put a copy up in the next couple of
>days.

Great!  If you could post when you put it up there I'd be really grateful,
as I imagine others would...I'm not the first person I've seen ask for it,
I've just never seen anybody admit to having it before! :-)

>>
>>2.  Having just put an ICD AdSpeed STE in my system and added a
>>floating point coprocessor, I was looking for a compiler that
>>would support using a 68881 as a peripheral, like the ST's do.
>
>The libraries that come with GCC will support the FPU.

Thanks for the pointer...I was worried that since most 680X0 systems running
GCC that have a math coprocessor use it in coprocessor mode instead of as a
peripheral like the 68000 does, that GCC only supported the coprocessor mode.
Guess it's time to find and read the compiler documentation...

>>
>>3.  I have some .TGA files on my PC that I want to convert to
>>PI3 (I think?  the monochrome one anyway) to use as backgrounds
>>on my STe.
>
>Interesting. If ".TGA" means what I think (TARGA) then you want to
>convert some 24-bit true-color images into ST 640x400 monochrome?
>Yeehah.

.TGA means Targa files, all right...what I wanted to do was customize my
desktop with a picture of the mutt.  The easiest  way to get it was to
grab it from video with the Targa board.  I was hoping to be able to string
a couple of programs together to do the conversion to save some time...
if I have to, I'll write one...

>
>The PC version of FractInt reads and writes TARGA files. You can
>probably use it to read them and save as GIFs, which you can then
>convert to some other format easily enough.
>

Okay, thanks...I know there are some gif viewers for the ST, is there a GIF
file converter?

>What program do you use on the PC to display these TGA files, anyway?

TIPS from Truevision...

Thanks for all the info!

Don Allison
don@cc.gatech.edu


					
					-Don Allison (don@cc.gatech.edu)
From: ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Can I un-arc MSDOS files on an ST?
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:22:31 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

In article <1992Sep4.150913.17933@unlinfo.unl.edu> ganderso@unlinfo.unl.edu (gary anderson) writes:
>I want to get some games via FTP for my young nephew who has an
>IBM machine.  My machine is an Atari ST.
>Can I un-arc these IBM files on my ST, as I would an ST file?  Or will
>I need special software?  Or can I even do it at all?
>(I know the easiest thing would be to get the files and the appropriate
>unarc program and let him do it, but I know the procedure would
>confuse him even more than it's confusing me...)
>Thanks!
>Gary Anderson
>ganderso@unlinfo.unl.edu

I know this can be done...I've done it using DCExtract.
--Gerry
ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: gbcusg@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (I. Barnett)
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 05:24:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.151149.8953@newshost.lanl.gov> hutch@bellman.lanl.gov writes:
>
>In article IA0@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca, gbcusg@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (I. Barnett) writes:
>>In your post, you say that the latest Mac LC (the LCII) is better that the
>>Falcon.  Where do you get this from?  The LCII is a 16 Mhz '030 : tie.  It will
>>support 16-bit graphics but only up to a 13" monitor...for mor color/resolution
>>you need a graphics card.  The Falcon's sound just kill the LCII.  The LCII is
>>in direct comptetion with the Falcon, not the Classic II, plus the Falcon is
>>cheaper.  The only thing that the LCII has is a superior O/S but TOS is
>>getting better.
>>
>
>I thought the LC and LCII could only support _8_ bit color (256 simultaneous) on
>Apple's 12 inch monitor and 16 colors on the 13" units.  To get 256 colors on a
>13" you need to add more VRAM.  Isn't this right or did Apple improve video specs
>on the LCII?  It _could_ be a nice machine if but for that 16 bit data path!!!
>
>I think the Falcon should indeed be superior to the LCII (even disregarding the
>Falcon's vastly superior sound capabilities) but then again, there is that huge
>software base for the Mac made possible because Apple _advertises_!  And don't
>forget about the more powerful but lower cost 68030 machines Apple has announced
>for availability later this year; some with built-in CD-ROM too.
> 
>As a developer, I'm just curious... how many folks in this newsgroup actually do
>intend to buy a Falcon when (and if) they become readily available at say, about
>US$799 for a 1Mb, _no_ hard drive model (which will _not_ multitask in this 
>configuration)?  How much will a 4Mb, 65Mb HD model cost?  Atari has not released
>pricing info yet but if $799 is about right for the low end, we would surely be
>talking about $1299 or so, don't you think?  And you'll also need a VGA monitor.
>
>So how many _really_ intend to buy one?
>
>Cheers,
>
>___________________________ John "HUTCH" Hutchinson _________________________
>_________________ Fair Dinkum Technologies     Member - IAAD  _______________
>________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
>____________ email: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov   GEnie: FAIR-DINKUM _____________
>
>

You need to upgrade the vram to get 16-bit graphics...sorry.  The 4mb, 65 HD
falcon will cost 1399 US.  To get the most out of the graphics modes, you
will need a VGA monitor, but you CAN use a SC color monitor with interlace
or an AM monitor for ST high only.  My point is : a LCII + monitor is about 
$2200 while a falcon with  a VGA monitor will be about $1800.  Let's keep
our fingers crossed about s/w support for the machine...

darren King, GBC. email :: gbcusg@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca


Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: IBM Emulators
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 20:37:57 GMT

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In article <Z72wqB4w164w@tcpbbs.pcn.org> joeadato@tcpbbs.pcn.org (Joseph Adato) writes:
>> By and large, all IBM emulators for the Atari run relatively slowly since
>> the 680x0 processor must do all the 80x86 translations.  That's a lot of
>> work, indeed.  About the best speed you could hope for is that of an 8MHz
>> 80286 AT class machine.  Of course, a faster Atari will help but with the

I'd generalize further, and skip the "By and large."  ALL IBM
emulators for the Atari will be pretty slow because the 680x0 is not
quite the same as an 80x86.  Vice versa, it takes a very powerful
80x86 to emulate a 68000.  (None of this actually proves anything
about the relative power of either Motorola or Intel lines.  It's
frankly a pretty stupid idea in many ways to try to make one emulate
the other since an emulation will have all of the undesirable features
of both!)

>Not so!!! AT-Speed C16 (an internal IBM emulator) is running inside my
>MegaST 4 at 12.9 Mhz.  There are speed test one can run to find oute
>exactly how fact their system is running.  There is also a 386
>emulator available for the ST.  Since AT-Speed C16 is a 286 emulator I
>would expect the 386 emulator (also made by the people who make AT-Speed)
>runs even faster.

You aren't talking about an emulator.  Some marketing droid may call
it an emulator, but it is NOT.  An emulator is something that pretends
to be something else.  The AT-Speed does not emulate an 80286 - it
actually HAS an 80286 on board.  Similarly, the "386 emulator" will
ACTUALLY have an 80386 (or perhaps one of the competing clone chips)
on board.

The Mihoka Gemulator, on the other hand IS a true emulator since it
makes an 80{3,4}86 pretend that it's a 68000.  The original PC Ditto
was a true emulator (and I don't remember hearing any hard info about
any other actual emulator), and was brutally slow because of this.

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-- 
Christopher Browne
cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca
University of Ottawa
Master of System Science Program