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From: reifenra6638@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware
Subject: Commodore 64 System For Sale...............
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:35:25 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I have a Commodore 64 system that I would like to sell.
The system is complete - keyboard, disk drive (1541), printer
(1526), 300 Baud modem, Amdek monitor (optional), joysticks,
FastLoad Cartridge, and lots of software.  The software 
ranges from games to word processors to other utitilities.

Willing to sell system in parts if necessary.  Shoot me some
prices - I don't know what the going rate is!

If interested, please e-mail me at reifenra6638@iscsvax.uni.edu

Thanks...
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Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,biz.comp.mcs
Subject: *** SIMM Module 1Meg/4Megs Sale ****
Keywords: SIMM
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:06:48 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)


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From: hjkim@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.periphs.printers
Subject: HELP TO FIND PRINTER HEAD REBUILDER
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:12:31 GMT

PLASE HELP TO FIND OUT PRINTER HEADER REBUILDER.

THIS IS REPOST WITH EMAIL CORRECTION FROM DIFFERENT MACHINE.
OLD ONE HAS A WRONG EMAIL.

--- REPOST ----

Two weeks ago my EPSON LQ 510 printer head lost one of the 24 pin.
I disassemble the head and found one pin was broken.
I called the nearest EPSON DELALER in south east USA and asked a replacement
for a pin but they said they could not sell only one pin but only
whole head and the cost was INCREDIBLELY $200.30- only just a head.
(Remember that EPSON LQ 570 costs around $250.00 by mail in USA)
Can you believe it? really rediculous!!.

If anyone can give me any phone number of EPSON AFTER SERVICE CENTER located
in Japan OR printer head rebuilder in USA, plase send emil to me.


I need only ONE HEAD PIN OF EPSON LQ 510 PRINTER for replacement.

Thank you. 
Newsgroups: biz.comp.hardware
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Subject: Wang Labs modems and fax modems, New Winfax modems
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:31:05 EST

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From: gt0418c@prism.gatech.EDU (Shane Wm. McWhorter)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: What' Wrong Here? (Laws)
Keywords: laws, morality, rights
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:27:25 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

So, I'm asking myself, "Why would there be ANY disagreement about
this seemingly clear issue?"

My answer could be:

Most lay-citizens believe laws go like this: "We got together, and most of
us decided this is a good thing, so this is what we are gonna do."

For example, "Hey, if you don't like the law, why don't you vote for someone
that will change it?"

Unfortunately, this is a misunderstanding of law.

Laws are within the juristiction of the US Constitution, written by Thomas
Jefferson, and signed by the State of Georgia, with a few others.

Jefferson said, "The most dangerous faction is the majority." He wrote
the Constitution for exactly the OPPOSITE reason as above, to protect the
minority from having the majority impose thier beliefs on them.

The United States' Constitution protects the right of Christians not to
have to buy alcohol on a Sunday. The Constitution also prevents Christians
from enforcing that opinion on other citizens.

The right to practice your religion is guaranteed, as well as preventing
you from enforing those beliefs on others.

And the bottom line is, prohibiting the sale of alcohol on a Sunday is
a religious view supported by a majority of voters, and completely illegal
in the United States.


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 | shane@cc.gatech.edu | Georgia Institute of Technology               |
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From: tim@mal-s2.gatech.edu (Tim Shelling)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Warning: Religion!
Keywords: Murder, jesus, Beer
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:09:16 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: Georgia Tech Res. Inst./Modeling & Analysis Lab

In <dmeyers.714074384@mal-s2> dmeyers@mal-s2.gatech.edu (Dave Meyers) writes:

>One major proper goal of government is the protection of the rights
>of individuals.  

What? Maybe it is the perception that our current government attempts to do
this, but this in general is not the case; historically speaking and 
from a philosophical view point, government CONTROLS the rights of 
individuals. It is that *control* that gives us that freedom, that 
protects us from anarchy. What is wrong with anarchy? Nothing-- that is,
unless you intend to have *some* semblance of civilization (there are those
who would argue that today we are not civilized, but compared to an anarchist
state, they are wrong). 
Too little control or no control resaults in an anarchy in which ultimately,
people are completely imprisoned by fear, triggered by the drive to survive. 
Too much control, and sadism eventually sets in the government. 
Totalitariasism might be seen as the beginnning of too much control. 

What our government does is to induce as much control as necessary to 
allow a country where the people are both allowed the freedom-to-do 
and freedom-from-fears, generally speaking, that is. 

>search and seizure.  That's some serious violation of rights.  Makes
>this sunday-liquor thing really seem trivial.
Yeah it does, doesn't it? But i suppose if you're really into the 
alcohol-thing, it doesn't matter.

Just my two cents,
Prohibiting the sale of Liqour on Sunday is probably a pretty good idea,
based on the following notions: a.) this may prevent workers calling in
sick on Mondays when they really just had too much to drink. 
b.) Provides an easy way out of selling alcohol at footbal games where
drunks are a real nuissance.

However, i do not believe it has any real legal standing, or even makes
idealogical sense. Even though it may be a good idea, i am typically 
against legislation against good ideas.

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From: goldsman@cc.gatech.edu (Michael G. Goldsman)
Subject: Re: Warning: Abortion! (Legal status only)
Keywords: abortion, citizenship, NOT MORALITY
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:26:29 GMT

In article <65696@hydra.gatech.EDU> jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:

>This perspective allows the following rather bizarre legal scenario,
>though. A pregnant woman is on her way to a clinic to have an abortion 
>performed.  She is suddenly attacked by someone and punched very hard
>in the stomach, and her unborn child is killed.  Now she has the choice
>choice either to thank the man for doing what she was planning to do 
>(albeit in a more painful way, coupled with assault), or she can have 
>him charged with murder, depending on her "state of mind".

I guess the law is just inconsistent and needs to be changed.

I don't feel that a man who punches a woman in the stomach killing a 4-week
old fetus, should be charged with manslaughter... do you?

that seems a bit extreme to me.

What about when abortion has been made illegal... Should woman who
illegally ingests RU-486 be charged with 1'st degree murder?  

------------

On a totally different note...

I see no problem with discussing  a wide variety of issue on this group.
tlak.abortion is soooo high traffic, it is impossible to keep up, or
have meaningful, rational discussion with people; too much is lost amongst 
the flaming and noise.

On a group such as this, people may know each other, and thus give each other
more respect, and debates are uaually much more productive.

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From: fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu (James P. H. Fuller)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Warning: Abortion! (Legal status only)
Keywords: abortion, citizenship, NOT MORALITY
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:09:22 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens



goldsman@cc.gatech.edu (Michael G. Goldsman) writes:

>I don't feel that a man who punches a woman in the stomach killing a 4-week
>old fetus, should be charged with manslaughter... do you?

     No, but I do think a man who punches a woman in the stomach for any
reason should be charged with criminal bad taste and horsewhipped.

                                                      -- jf
From: vaps0de@prism.gatech.EDU (Dustin Emhart)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Why Food Items are Taxed in Ga?
Date: 16 Aug 92 06:59:54 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <907@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:

>Forgive me if its not a relevent question.
>I lived in Michigan before moving to GA.
>Ther was no tax on food-items. Also, I was
>told, that some states don't tax on food. Why
>is then that there is tax on food in Ga? Is it not
>possible that Georgians can bring pressure on state
>govt. to remove tax on food, specially in this
>election year? Just a thought.

Two observations:

    1.	If Georgia taxes food, wouldn't that tax be figured into cost of living,
	hence producing a slightly higher wage to compensate for the added
	taxes?

    2.	If you propose removing the tax on food, where do you propose making
	up the lost revenue?

Remember: there is no such thing as a (tax-) free lunch.
-- 
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Georgia Institute of Technology     |  most people do all day.
Internet: vaps0de@prism.gatech.edu  |        -- me
From: scott@prism.gatech.EDU (Scott Holt)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Warning: Religion!
Keywords: church state separation myth
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:40:01 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Separation of Church and State is a myth in a democracy...it is a 
contradiction. Why? Well, consider what both the Church and the 
democratic State are. They are not really institutions (though they
tend to manifest themselves as institutions), they are the people.
The essense of the Church is not the buildings, the clergy or the rules,
its the faith and the people who follow it. Likewise, the democratic State 
is no the legislature or the president, but the people who elect them. 
Well, despite the fact that there are many in both the Church and 
State who elect not to participate in the other, there is a great deal 
of overlap - in short, they are the same people, thus there can be no 
separation.

If you are a member of a Church (or other religious body), you have a
responsibility of faith to attempt to practice the moral ideals of
your religion in every aspect of your life. This includes the decisions
you make concerning the State. You have no choice to but to impose
your religious morality on the State.

I believe that the constitutional provisions which have been interpreted
as requiring the separation of Church and State were designed solely to
prevent the Church INSTITUTIONS from becomming State INSTITUTIONS. These
provisions were not, however, meant to prevent those who hold certain
moral views (religiously inspired or otherwise) from imposing those views
on the State.

- Scott
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From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Why Food Items are Taxed in Ga?
Date: 16 Aug 92 15:16:53 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

vaps0de@prism.gatech.EDU (Dustin Emhart) writes:
: In <907@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
: 
: 
: Remember: there is no such thing as a (tax-) free lunch.

I am not talking about cooked food in restaurents, but food-items
in grocery shops.

---Sreehari
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: Georgia Institute of Technology     |  most people do all day.
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From: oaa@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (owen.a.alexander)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Warning: Religion!
Keywords: Murder, jesus, Beer
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:16:12 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Alpharetta, GA

In article <65878@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt0418c@prism.gatech.EDU (Shane Wm. McWhorter) writes:
>I hope it is OBVIOUS to the other readers of this group that I do
>not have something against "Christianity," but something against
>a government agency enforcing with a police force, the religious
>beliefs of others.

Okay, let me try to understand your point.  Because the law stipulates
Sunday, then you assume that the law is there because of the religious
belief of others.  If the law said Monday, then I guess we would not be
having this discussion, right?

You keep making the same assumption, that the law was imposed by
"some religious zealots trying to take away your fun" (my intrepretation,
not your words), without any evidence for that assumption except that the
day in question is on Sunday.

Another point I meant to make before, but will make now. Since you don't
want someone else's religion imposed upon you, what do you define
'religion' as?

- Webster New Collegiate has 4 definations including "a cause, principle,
or system of beliefs held to with ardor and faith".  Would you exclude
any of the following from being a religion?

   - Christianity - the religion derived from Jesus Christ based on the
                    Bible as sacred scripture
   - Satanism - obsession with or affinity for evil
   - Humanism - a doctrine, attitude, or way of life centered on human
                interests or values
   - Atheism - the doctrine that there is no diety

I could argue that these are all religions.  Which one do you not want
imposed upon you.  Do you not want Atheism imposed on you?  If you went
to public school you could not bring a Bible, or pray openly.  Satanists
feel that their "rights" are being imposed because our laws limit their
ability to do evil.  Atheists want God removed from our laws, even
though the Bill of Rights reference God several times.

The point I want to make is that everyone has a set of beliefs
and principles that they hold to and that all laws are based on someone
beliefs of what's right/fair/proper.  So there is no way to not have
someone's "religious" beliefs imposed upon yourself.  Unless you wish to
become a dictator :-)

Owen Alexander
From: jrives@eng.tridom.com (Joel Rives)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Warning: Abortion! (Legal status only)
Keywords: abortion, citizenship, NOT MORALITY
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:52:53 GMT
Reply-To: jrives@eng.tridom.com (Joel Rives)
Organization: AT&T Tridom; Marietta, Georgia

In article <1992Aug12.230922.26662@athena.cs.uga.edu>, fuller@athena.cs.uga.edu (James P. H. Fuller) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> goldsman@cc.gatech.edu (Michael G. Goldsman) writes:
|> 
|> >I don't feel that a man who punches a woman in the stomach killing a 4-week
|> >old fetus, should be charged with manslaughter... do you?
|> 
|>      No, but I do think a man who punches a woman in the stomach for any
|> reason should be charged with criminal bad taste and horsewhipped.

I'm curious. Do you apply this attitude universally or is there a sexual
bias in your opinion? How do you feel about a man who punches a man in
the stomach or a woman who punches a woman in the stomach or a woman
who punches a man in the stomach?
 

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From: gt0418c@prism.gatech.EDU (Shane Wm. McWhorter)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Religious Registration
Keywords: morals, laws, constitution
Date: 15 Aug 92 22:15:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Here's an idea:

Make everyone register thier religious belief at thet courthouse. On a
Sunday, you have to show your religion registration. If you are Christian,
you can't buy alcohol.

You have to show your registration at Kroger, too. You can't buy pork if
you are Jewish, or beef if you are Hindu.

That way, the government can have detailed records of your religious
beliefs, so they can legislate them to thier heart's content.

(Please, I am only illustrating a point!)


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 | shane@cc.gatech.edu | Georgia Institute of Technology               |
 |                     | Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0355                   |  
 | Psychophysics, Displays and User Performace in Virtual Environments |
From: gt0418c@prism.gatech.EDU (Shane Wm. McWhorter)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Warning: Religion!
Date: 20 Aug 92 17:35:49 GMT
Distribution: ga
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Yes, slavery was legal.  

Why? Because whether blacks were covered under the Constitution
was not clear. Sure, all men have rights, but are blacks men?

The issue was debated until the Constitution was amended to make the legal
standing of blacks clear.

It is also a religious issue, because blacks "had no Christian souls"
and therefore were not men.

The same goes for fetuses today. Are fetuses covered under the
Constitution? So far, the debate continues. That's why the
Republican Party has as a goal of the 1992 Presidency to amend
the Constitution guaranteeing the rights of embryos.

But women are not guaranteed the rights of men by the 
Constitution...

So slavery was a Constitutional issue. No, the sale of liquor
is not guaranteed by the Constitution, nor the sale of cigarettes.
However, the sale of liquor on a Sunday is a separation of church and
state issue, while banning smoking is not. I am not banning smoking because
I think it is immoral.


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 | shane@cc.gatech.edu | Georgia Institute of Technology               |
 |                     | Atlanta, Georgia 30332-0355                   |  
 | Psychophysics, Displays and User Performace in Virtual Environments |
From: phssra@mathcs.emory.edu (Scott Robert Anderson)
Newsgroups: ga.general
Subject: Re: Why Food Items are Taxed in Ga?
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:23:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Physics, Emory University, Atlanta

In article <907@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>I lived in Michigan before moving to GA.
>Ther was no tax on food-items....Why
>is then that there is tax on food in Ga? Is it not
>possible that Georgians can bring pressure on state
>govt. to remove tax on food, specially in this
>election year? Just a thought.

Sree,

You'll find *lots* of other differences between Georgia and Michigan :-).
This is what is broadly known as "states rights".  Illinois is in the
middle somewhere, with a 2% tax on food and medicine and a 6% tax on
other items (or something like that; it's been a while since I lived
there).

Several years ago, when Georgia raised the sales tax from 3% to 4%, Zell
Miller, who was then lieutenant governor and the leader of the state
senate, led the fight against applying the tax to food and medicine.  He
wanted to eliminate the latter to offset the increase in revenue from the
extra point when applied to other items.  He was opposed in this by the
Speaker of the House, Tom Murphy.  A compromise was reached in which the
tax was not applied to foodstuffs grown here in Georgia, e.g.  Vidalia
onions and peanuts (a hand-printed list with Dan-Quayle-esque spelling
errors was made up late one night by then-governor Joe Frank Harris).  I
have yet to notice if, in fact, this compromise is uniformly applied.

In any case, Zell is now governor, so why hasn't he repealed the tax on
food?  Simply because the recession arrived at the same time, tax revenue
in general is down, and Zell is doing everything he can to balance the
budget without raising taxes further.  Maybe it will be repealed when the
economic climate is better.  I hope so, because I find this tax to be
extremely regressive.

					Scott