From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn)
Subject: Re: In your school?
Organization: Not Philips.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:37:51 GMT

In refd article, godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
>>If anyone has any personal knowledge that might help to set our minds at
>>rest on this matter, I'd appreciate it if they'd contact me.
>My mind is at rest.
>Do you mean knowledge about Concordia shootings, knowledge about Frabrikants
>disputes, or knowledge about Godfrey.  If the last, I would be more than
>willing to provide details of my dispute with NRC to anyone who wants them -
>I haven't shot anyone, threatened to do so, carried a gun etc etc. and part
>of it is dealt with in my article in New Scioentist of 11th July, 1982
>(Forum section) and the remainder in the Canadian press of Feb 1987
>(all national newspapers and Ottawa Citizen, CJOH and other TV stations).
 
Because you have brought it up so many times, why don't you present it for
discussion in sci.research.careers, as has already been suggested.

>My view is that [Fabrikant's] arguments are disjointed and clumsily presented,
>that he is alternately agressive and defensive, and that he frequently
>goes OTT,

Laurence, look back over your postings in these newsgroups over the last
few months, and then read that sentence again, carefully.

> but that there is substance there and it is evident how he was
>driven to shooting the people involved.  It is also evident that the
>university faculty closed ranks against him, that they acted to protect
>themselves with no regard for Frabrikant's own career....

This is not the appropriate thread to discuss any merits of Fabrikant's
case, but clearly there is a difference between showing what drove
Fabrikant to take the actions he did and suggesting, as Godfrey did, that
those actions were justified.

>Dunn is well aware that I don't really hate all Canadians and that many of
>my postings are calculated to be provocative but are nonetheless my real
>opinions.

We need some help with this.  Which is it?

What you post is your real opinion even when you're being provocative.  You
repeatedly post that you hate Canadians [and Germans etc], and yet we're
supposed to be aware that you don't really hate them.

>Dunn is also well aware that I do not think that victims of injustice ought
>to go around killing people, but when you have lived in a country where
>such behaviour is quite normal, as I have, you don't find such action quite
>so unacceptable nor so incomprehensible.

This is the scary one.  Again, which is it?  We're to be aware that you
don't think that victims of injustice ought to go around killing people and
yet you don't find such action unacceptable?

>Furthermore, I know just how frustrating Canadian institutions can be when
>they close ranks to protect themselves, particularly in response to facts
>that demonstrate manifest injustice on their part, and I can easily
>understand how an unstable person could be driven to violence in such
>circumstances.

None of this sets my mind at rest.
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