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From: hill@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Hill)
Subject: New Amy album?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:26:02 GMT

This morning the dj announced (twice, before and after the song) "a brand
new song" by Amy Grant.  It was called "On and On".  I've never heard it
before.  It sounded like her older (c. 1985) stuff, not like "Heart in
Motion" at all.  But it's not from any album she's done since "Straight
Ahead", and doesn't sound like albums earlier than that one.  But I
haven't heard here (or did I just space it?) of a new AG album.  Ennybody
know about this?

			--Michael

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From: urmvance@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: review: Adam again DAS (alt)
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:26:03 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <BvIo7B.8qL@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles W. Fay IV) writes:
> 
> Here it is guys, the first of, well I don't know what it is the first of
> but what I really wanted to push was that wonderful band Adam Again.
> 
> I don't know how many of you have heard of them, but if you are into
> alternative give them a listen, especially their new album DIG.
> .
> .
> .
> It's great listen and try.
> chip
> 
> I really wish I had a neat picture to put here but too bad so deal with it.
> 
> cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

You wanna picture? OK. A bald guy wearing flannel and wayfarers. And a
drop-dead wife. That must suffice. But I must agree that this is a great tape!
If anyone is interested at all in alternative music, gotta here DIG. Go out 'n
buy two tapes apiece, OK? These guys can barely give a tape away despite the
fact that they are one of the best bands in the world. Agreed?

							Richard Vance
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: u925816@postoffice.utas.edu.au (The DOK)
Subject: Re: what's kerry livgren up to?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:04:52 GMT

In article <92277.151351TMW108@psuvm.psu.edu>, Tom <TMW108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
> Has anyone heard any news about Kerry and any current projects?
> I'd be most appreciative of any info.

 So would I!!
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> tom.

 The DOK
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From: dmaxwell@auc.trw.com (Doug Maxwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Concert Info
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:36:31 GMT
Reply-To: dmaxwell@dora.UUCP (Doug Maxwell)
Distribution: na
Organization: TRW Denver Operations

In article <1992Sep25.213859.25649@mercury.cair.du.edu> baxtman@zephyr.cair.du.edu (CptChaos) writes:
>Does anyone have any Info about concerts coming to denver.
>
>Would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Captain Chaos
>

Whiteheart - Oct 3 at CCU
Out of the Grey / Susan Ashton / Steven Curtis Chapman - Nov 3 (?)


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From: hilding@catfish.ocpt.ccur.com (Hilding Holroyd)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Michael Card Concert Review (was Re: Card/Keaggy Tix for Sale)
Summary: Michael Card/Trenton, NJ.
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:05:37 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer ,Oceanport NJ


Michael Card (+ symphony orchestra) will be in Trenton, NJ
at the War Memorial on October 23. Many tickets still available.
(hey, this will be my third and a half ... the half was at a 
CREATION Festival and got rained on - yea Mud Fest year.)

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From: swansond@nextnet.csus.edu (Dennis Swanson)
Subject: Re: Metallica
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:57:52 GMT

In article <69903@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6851a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian King) writes:
>>>>I like Metallica. Now, I'm a registered Republican, besides the fact 
>>that I'm a Christian, so I don't agree with their views politically or
>morally.
>>
>>
>>Just curious...  What does being a Republican have to do with disliking
>>Metallica's moral standpoint?
>
>Nothing -- why do you ask? Yours wasn't by any chance a knee-jerk post,
>was it? If you reread his/her (what happened to the name?) post slowly
>this time, you might see that it goes something like this: I'm a Christian,
>and don't agree with Metallica's views morally, and I'm also a Republican,
>so I don't agree with their views politically either.  
>
>
>Reading it slowly is not going to improve your logic:
>
>What we have here is:  Repub. + Xian = DiagreeMorally + DisagreePolitically.
>
>This does NOT imply that Repub. = DisagreePolitically 
>or that Xian = DiagreeMorally.

On strictly logical grounds, no it does not. However, in giving the original
poster the benefit of the doubt, I would infer this. Unless I was aware of
him/her having a past history of confusing his/her sense of morality with
his/her sense of politics, I would think this a much more sensible and
respectful interpretation than 'Republican = Disagree_Morally'. Maybe you'd
like to show how your inference is logically implied by what the poster said?

>
>Your statement is equivalent to stating that, just because 3+4 = 2+5, that
>3= 2 and 4=5.  You can't just "separate the terms" like that

I really had no intention of treating the poster's statement syllogistically,
nor am I convinced that this is appropriate, for we do not always speak or
write in formal arguments. I was merely trying to offer a much more reasonable
interpretation.

>
>
>>>Metallica's
>most recent album certainly sets off my moral offensometer in some places, so
>I can definitely understand your disagreement with their views on that basis,
>
>
>Then I ask you the same question:  Why?!  Let's see some cited quotations 
>from the album.  Personally, I see parallels between "Holier Than Thou"
>and Matthew 7-- even a direct quote.
>
>Could your disapproval of the album lie within the song "The God That 
>Failed?"   I think (not 100% sure) that James Hetfield's parents were
>Xian Scientists, and i heard that he harbored resentment against some of
>their beliefs...

I am not completely sure about this either. The problem I have with their
latest album is similar to my gripe with the news media -- it's not that I
don't agree that George Bush has his faults, it's just that I am tired of
hearing only one side all the time. In that sense I am offended.

	In His love,

		Den

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From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: is a certain type of music bad?
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:07:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnews.1992Oct6.130717.12324
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Oct5.213118.17730@gtech.com> caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.124038.10329@uoft02.utoledo.edu> jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
>>jason "next they'll be saying there's no such thing as free will" steiner
>
>Free will is largely overrated.

Yeah?  Well, I think God is forcing me to ignore your opinion.  

>Topher
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From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Die Happy
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:28:30 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Oct3.005150.23988@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> meo@austin.ibm.com (Miles Bob) writes:
>tll6551@sigma.tamu.edu (Scholar and Fool) writes:
>| their album. The only qualm I really had about the album was that I didn't
>| think the lead singer went with the band too well. He was a guy that they
>| just got to do the singing for them, not a permanent front-man. As far as
>
>You and Doug Van Pelt.  Are you guys related or something?
>
>I *like* the way the music and voice go together.
>
>-Miles
>
>then again, I always wanted to do a Dueling Chainsaw/Piccolo duet.

If so, then Terry, DVP and I are all related because I felt the same way
about Robin Basauri... he's better in Jaguar than Die Happy. Plain and simple.

Phil

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From: graikund@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (Gitesh Raikundalia)
Subject: Re: "Rebellion" lyrics
Organization: Uni of Newcastle, Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:13:18 GMT

Fellow Christian rockers,

		Thanks for your response!

						Gitesh
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:13:51 EDT
From: Tom <TMW108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: what's kerry livgren up to?

Has anyone heard any news about Kerry and any current projects?
I'd be most appreciative of any info.

Thanks.

tom.
From: moeller@convex.com (Tom Moellering)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Rez Twenty CD (XX)
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:31:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct6.143152.9327
Reply-To: moeller@convex.com (Tom Moellering)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Originator: moeller@neptune.convex.com
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


Ok, who has this?

I heard it was a double-disc, but then the box is a regular jewel-box,
except for one clue:  It has the word "DOUBLE" on that dark space on the
front of a jewel box.

Is it really 2 discs?

I noticed that Christian Book And Supply is selling it for a regular disc
price.  (i.e. as if it weren't 2 discs)

Yeah, and of course whats the music like, too? ;-)

Whats up with that?
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Subject: so what should i get?
From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason "Think!" steiner)
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:35:30 EST

i get payed today, (friday) and i have just enough $$ for -one- CD.
a new Christian Music store just opened in toledo, so i'm looking
forward to ordering some of the great alternative Christian stuff
i've missed out on in the last year...

here are some of the ones i've heard about but haven't heard.
any suggestions? info? people screaming "THAT'S THE BEST CD I
EVER HEARD! BUYBUYBUY!"?

    plague of ethyls                 ?
    fluffy                           go, fluffy, go
    victoria williams                Swing the Statue
    scaterd few                      The Attic Tapes
    breakfast with amy               love gift

i also got to hear demos of these when i stopped by last:

    mortal                           luisis
    jyradelix                        invincible

right now i'm leaning toward Jyradelix, but even if i don't manage to 
aquire any other ones i'd like some recommendations for future 
reference...

jason

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From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: what's kerry livgren up to?
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:06:08 GMT
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory

The last thing I've seen from him was "One of several possible
musiks."

-- Tim
From: gt6851a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian King)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: is a certain type of music bad?
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:25:24 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I think basically there's nothing wrong with any kind of music.
Firstly, music is created by God so that we can worship Him with songs
and music.  We can see this being mentioned in many places in the bible
(esp Psalms, etc). 


I have often heard this assertion:  "God created music..."

Why do people assume this?  Perhaps Psalms says that we should use music
to worship god, but does it say that God actually created it?


For instance, I happen to like Corvettes.  As far as I know, God doesn't
have a factory that produces them --Man does.  Now sure, if you want to 
nitpick you can quote the verse "Without God nothing was made that was 
made (paraphrase)"-- sure, he made the glass, iron, rubber, etc., but Not
the actual Corvette.  Why then, should we assume that God made music?

This sounds awfully familiar:  "Man made fire?  Of course not!  Everybody
knows Prometheus invented it, and merely TAUGHT it to Man..."

C'mon, let's give credit where credit is due!


-- 
"in this day & age...music performed by humans?...Hum?! - Wilde Silas Tomkyn 
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Brian King - Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta: gt6851a@prism.gatech.edu 

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From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Re: Looking for Soundgarden-style Christian Band
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:25:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.195134.11500@unislc.uucp> merk@unislc.uucp (John Merk) writes:
>I'm wondering if there are any Christian bands yet with the
>"Seattle Sound", ie. grunge?
>
>John
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There's the new album by Applehead, "Meaning", which is in that vein, and
this new band, Ragman with their demo out which is pretty much Seattle
type sound...

That's all I know of right now..

Phil


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From: urmvance@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: globalWAVEsystem & DEITIPHOBIA news
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:49:08 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <BvBIxx.8Cq@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, cwe34361@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (cE!) writes:
> Well, there's some good news and some bad news from the land of SLAVA Music.
> 
> 
> First the good news (semi-authorized):
> 
> globalWAVEsystem:_life equals death_ will be available on Blonde Vinyl Records
> in January.
> 
> The Prodigal Sons have signed with an LA record company.  Their new stuff is 
> very up-to-date techno, for those of you who haven't heard it.  It's not at all
> like the tune on the SLAVA Compilation.
> 
> Second the bad news (authorized):
> 
> DEITIPHOBIA has broken up.
> 
> That's the news.
> 
> christian E! / globalWAVEsystem
> christian-e@uiuc.edu

Dude, this pill is bitter. Are you quite sure there is not chance for
ammends to be made between Shaw and Stackhouse anytime soon? It's a little
funny how much this sounds like the Beatles breakup. Brent marries Heather,
Brent forms group with Heather, Brent and Wally disband. Sorry. I guess
I should start finding another favorite group in the whole world. Question:
since I have "Fear of God," "Digital Priests," and the SLAVA Compilation
tape, do I have all of DONDER/PHOBIA?

Question #2: How is it you come about this semi-authorized stuff? I might wanna
keep in touch with you!!! And what is Christian E! the name of? I know and
like the global WAVE system despite the fact I know only one song by them.
Do they have a tape out yet? I would be interested in being able to find it.
I also really like The November Commandments and Icon Tack. I've found the
November Commandments tape in True News magazine, but it's a hefty price for
this rare tape. Comments? I'm  listening!

						Richard Vance
						URMVANCE@memstvx1.memst.edu
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From: chaplin@keinstr.uucp (Roger Chaplin)
Subject: Re: Michael W on Regis and Kathy Lee
Organization: Keithley Instruments, Cleveland, Ohio
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:18:11 GMT

Bob Miller (rhm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM) wrote:

[ Andy Whitman's sarcasm deleted (I *really* liked it, though!)

: 
: Even read through my andy's-being-sarcastic (tm) filter ;-) I think you are
: overstating it a bit. I can think of several less-than-amy-grant-gorgeous CCM 
: artists who are doing rather well by just making (good?) music. Examples:
: 
: Rich Mullins
: Charlie Peacock
: Sandi Patti
: Julie Miller
: Ashley Cleveland
: Scott Wesley Brown   <<< what a hunk!!!
: (the late) Mark Heard
: Margaret Becker      <<< OK, she's not exactly UGLY, but...
: 
: Any other nominations???

Michael Card  (is bald beautiful?)
Bob Bennet

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From: swansond@nextnet.csus.edu (Dennis Swanson)
Subject: Re: Metallica
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:17:57 GMT

In article <69923@hydra.gatech.EDU> jkg@prism.gatech.EDU (Jim Greenlee) writes:
>In article <1992Oct4.100111.16975@csus.edu> swansond@nextnet.csus.edu (Dennis Swanson) writes:
>>In article <69869@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6851a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian King) writes:
>>>Just curious...  What does being a Republican have to do with disliking
>>>Metallica's moral standpoint?
>>
>>Nothing -- why do you ask? Yours wasn't by any chance a knee-jerk post,
>>was it? If you reread his/her (what happened to the name?) post slowly
>>this time, you might see that it goes something like this: I'm a Christian,
>>and don't agree with Metallica's views morally, and I'm also a Republican,
>>so I don't agree with their views politically either.                     
>
>I hate to point this out, but you paraphrased (and badly at that) - that is
>not what the original poster said. Nor is that even what was implied. Just
>check the original quote:
>
>	I like Metallica. Now, I'm a registered Republican, besides the
>	fact that I'm a Christian, so I don't agree with their views
>	politically or morally.
>
>The key word in determing the meaning is "so", which does indeed imply that
>the poster's Republican affiliation somehow makes him disagree politically
>with Metallica. So Brian's question is valid - not a "knee-jerk" reaction.

But Brian's question was not what does being a Republican have to do with
disagreeing politically, but what does being a Republican have to do with
disagreeing morally. You've misread Brian's question, asserted that my
interpretation is incorrect, and then attempted to support my interpretation.
I sure hope yours and Brian's reading comprehension skills and thought
processes aren't indicative of the rest of the folks at Georgia Tech.

>
>>I have a question for the misunderstood person (whoever you are!).
>
>The original poster was Michael Scott Price. Incidentally, I found it rather
>interesting that Mr. Price's login name is "zeus" ...

Thank you for the name!!! It was getting awkward trying to refer to him
without it. BTW, would you elaborate on your last sentence?

	In Him,

		Den

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From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason "Think!" steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Moshing
Date: 3 Oct 92 02:54:57 GMT

clopton5107@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason "Think!" steiner) writes:
> > cwe34361@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (cE!) writes:
> >> Someone presented this viewpoint to me, factual or otherwise:
> >> 
> >> > Ka-mosh (spelling uncertain) was an ancient pagan god whose 
> Don't let Bob Larson hear this, he'll do a show on it.
> 
> I say we kill this thread right now.  The *&%^& Christian roomer 
> mill is too damn active and thrives on this crap!

i know you wanted to kill this thread, but now i'm curious. why would
Bob Larson do a show on this? he begs too much, but last i heard
he was sympathetic to Christian metal artists. he's had them on
his show & gives tapes of Christian metal/thrash/punk/whatever
to some of the kids who call his show.

yes, he -did- write that book about the "beat being evil" but
he's since changed & explains why in one of his books. he may
sound like Geraldo, but he's got a good head on his shoulders.

jason "Ka-moshing for Jesus" steiner

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