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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Participate in the US Presidential straw poll!
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 13:39:07 GMT

In article <BwI5sK.q9@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:
>In <1992Oct22.001932.15170@pony.Ingres.COM> reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux) writes:
>>Announcing a Usenet-wide   United  States  Presidential   straw  poll!
>>Anyone  who  reads  this  message is eligible   to cast  his  vote for
>>President of the United States in this poll.   You do *not* need to be
>>a citizen of the U.S.  to participate!
>>
>>To cast your ballot, send mail to  reb@ingres.com with the word 'vote'
>>and the name  of the candidate  you  wish  to vote for in  the subject
>>line.  Do *not* include any other  text in your message.  
>
>Hey everyone!  If you send a message with these headers:
>     To: reb@ingres.com
>     Subject: Vote Kibo    
>
>...then later, when I'm elected, I'll give you an influential-yet-easy, 
>government job that pays many millions of dollars a week!  

                                                            Also, if you
>are not a U.S. citizen, I promise to never invade your country successfully.
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

  You don't need to make any changes then!


Nick (the Old-Empire-Lives-On Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Raj Handbook


M'Lud.


Sidecar> Why do some Americans (ie Pres. Clinton et al) need to show that they
         came from England or other (lesser?) European (only joking) countries?
         It seems to me that it would be a lot better if they could prove that
         they were true Americans.  I hear that one has just been elected as a
         MP or whatever you call them.  When are you going to get one for
         dictat^H^H^H^H^H^Hpresident then?  (Perhaps you shot too many?)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: GTS1000A gripe
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 17:10:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.145618.21410@osf.org>, jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org
(John S. Morris) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov9.185543.12008@rd.hydro.on.ca>
|> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
|> >
|> >Why the f*** can't they put hard luggage brackets on a $16k bike?
|> You buy
|> >a huge, expensive machine and you can't ride it three blocks without
|> a 
|> >tankbag because there's no place to store some bungee cords and a
|> pair of
|> >sunglasses! Or a rainsuit for those of us who don't live in the
|> Southern 
|> 
|> I agree. I'm really confused about Yamaha's marketing strategy here.
|> They
|> say they're targeting the 35-45 male who's looking for something
|> technically
|> advanced and has the yuppie big bucks to warrant a $15K price tag.
|> 
|> But every "older" person I know has some fairly simple requirements -
|> and
|> integrated luggage is one of them (not to mention shaft drive 8-)).
|> 
|> Who the hell is going to buy this bike since all the loyal FJ riders
|> will stay with the FJ? Oh wait I know, the testosterone-driven
|> techno-
|> yuppie!                                    
|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^
Hey watch that stuff, I do not drive a ferrari. :-)
There is a place for both, there are times I would like to
have a touring bike, cruiser, crotch rocket. As I get older
I lean toward the first two and right now my xs11 kinda
sits in the cruiser catagory to where it is comfortable
on long trips and by changing handlebars to drag bars
I can play with it on the twisties. When I first go my
midnite I will admit that I liked the attention it got
from people-it is a beautiful bike in that black and gold
finish- now it does not matter to me that much. If Harley
came out with a 1200cc low rider type bike for under 7k
I'd buy one in a heart beat but there aint no way I would
ever spend 14k on two wheels (man thats the same price as
an S10 loaded pickup truck for petes sake). 
|> 

-- 
##########################################################
There are only two types of ships in the NAVY; SUBMARINES 
                 and TARGETS !!!
#1/XS1100LH	#2/10/10/92
Richard Pierson E06584 vnet: [908] 699-6063
Internet: fist@iscp.belcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist  
#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I by my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: BMW R80/6 manual
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:25:24

"quiniou" == Henri Quiniou <quiniou@bnr.ca> writes:

quiniou> BMW doesn't provide its own technical books, so you have to

Cal BMW sells various repair manuals, some of them in German.  They
also sell both the repair and parts fiches (fishies?) for about $25
each (for my bike).

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                     '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWOA, AMA, ACLU
                                "HotHead Rules!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: The last one of its kind ?
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:18:20 GMT

In article <1dc833INNkni@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
|In article 26649@megatek.com, randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
|>In article <k21701.720964202@kyyppari> k21701@kyyppari.hkkk.fi (Teppo Nieminen) writes:
|> [basic human reaction time = walking, not 180mph]
|>| IMHO, the limits of superbikes will not be found in technology, but in
|>|the riders. Too much capacity for the average Joe has a lethal potential.

  Ed, learn to edit your attribution lines a little better - I stated none
of the stuff you quoted...

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette)
Subject: Riding on ice (Was: Re: Long winter's nap) 
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:11:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.061927.20764@news.columbia.edu> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.040301.20416@news2.cis.umn.edu> molenda@i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes:
>
>	O.K., I've never ridden through the winter before (just doesn't work
>	in Idaho) but I'm planning to now that I have the bike with me at
>	school. I ski a lot and spend other time outdoors at cold sports so
>	frankly the cold doesn't really bother me. 
>
>	What would worry me would be ice. How does one judge whether to ride 
>	when it's below freezing? Just figure it hasn't rained in a while, and 
>	there shouldn't be any standing water around?
>
>	I know I will have to go slower, watch more carefully etc..., but do
>	you all-year-not-so-temperate-climate-riders have a rule of thumb
>	when to ride and when not to?

Probably the most dangerous sitiuation I faced (that didn't consist of haveing
to dodge another vehicle) is when I rode on ice.  The morning was clear and
about 35 degrees F.  I was riding to work on my usual route when suddenly
I noticed the street was covered with a thin layer of ice.  I just got off the 
throttle slowly and coasted (there were no cars behind me).  I was going uphill
at the time.  I didn't go down.  I kept going up the hill at a snails pace.
When I crested the hill I saw cars strewn all over the road and a couple
up over the curb.  I weaved my way through them and continued my commute
without incident.  

The bottom line was that I should have known better.  The situation was that
a frost had been on the road that had not yet thawed in that area because
the sun had not yet risen over the trees.  I was lucky I think.  After that
I rode MUCH more cautiously.  It took quite some time for me to really lean
into a curve.  At the time I had only about a year of riding experience.

Now, if I know there was a frost, I really think about wether the temperature
has gotten high enough to melt the ice everywhere before I ride.  The other
thing you need to look out for is melted snow/ice that has refrozen after
draining across the road all day long or has become a frozen puddle.

Be careful out there.

Jim Bessette
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:38466 ba.motorcycles:735
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
Subject: Change in venue info sought
Keywords: ticket court
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:14:20 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

I got a rather bogus ticket in Sonoma a few weeks ago,
and I was wondering if anyone out there knew the scoop
on getting a change in venue, so I can get my case tried
down here (South Bay).  I know "Fight Your Ticket" had
some information on this, but I lent out my copy to 
someone and I can't remember who!

Thanks,
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: Christmas and DoD #
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 03:41:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov03.231914.2817822@locus.com> dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers) writes:
>In article <1d6gfiINNi97@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ravi@sequoia.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
>>In article <1d62t8INNeib@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
>>|> I guess this means I have to get off my butt and get my
>>|> DoD # now . . . . let's see . . I just have to mail to
>>|> Lakszlo for my number!!
>>|> Oops, I wasn't suppose to point out that Laxslow is the KotL?
>>|> Sh*t . . . and I don't know how to go up and delete the previous
>>|> lines . . . on this anitquated vt100 terminal!!
>>	haven't you heard the latest??? lacxsfdlo has moved on to
>>	bigger and slimier jobs now!!! he is way up there in the
>>	list of people heading into the white house ;-)
>
>Lazslo only finished #6 overall. He's not going to the White House unless
>Slick offers him a cabinet job.

	Is that "Slick Willie Clinton" or "Slick 50"?

	Inquiring minds want to... oh hell, inquiring minds don't really give
	a flying fuck, they're just bored of midterms...

	ObMoto: Any hints on making my kick-starting life easier? Bike only
	starts now after about five minutes of kicking (then still won't
	idle or have blinkers horn etc. work if under 3,000 RPM). I know I
	need to do tune up etc., but until then (i.e. $$$ for timing light
	and torque wrench) should I try priming with throttle twists first,
	or something else? I don't want to flood, but there's got to be
	an easier way.

-------
"Don't believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear."  -  Lou Reed
Sea-Bass Sears --> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu --> DoD#516 <-- |Stanley, ID.|
'79 Yamaha XS750F -- '85 Toyota 4Runner -- Perception Corsica  |  NYC, NY.  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: motorcycle for sale
From: <PXM7@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:31:50 EST
Organization: Penn State University


SILVER 1980 CB750F SUPER SPORT FOR SALE

20000 MILES, RACING HANDLEBARS, FOUR IN

ONE PIPE.  THE FUN BEGINS @ 5000 R.P.M

STILL QUICK.

PRICE: ASKING A BARGAIN $750.00

REPLY (814) 867 7231 (pete)
OR
PXM7@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:38477 rec.motorcycles.harley:992
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Get your wallets out...
Date: 6 Nov 1992 15:41:21 -0600
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Nov6.165941.18849@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> tim@intrepid.gsfc.nasa.gov (Tim Seiss) writes:
>I'm curious about what parts are non-USA made on the current bikes.  I
>am under the impression that the forks and shocks are Showa units and 
>the carb is a Keihin, made in Japan.  Is this correct?  Thanks.

I've been told that, at least on a softail, you can improve the ride
quality drastically by putting on after-market US-made shocks.
This begs the question of why H-D doesn't use them in the first place,
I guess.


-- 
-
-John H. Osborn                     - Boycott Colorado
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu               - Enforced discrimination MUST NOT STAND
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar     - Queer, Proud, and Angry
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: R100GS final drive trouble
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:46:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.193715.24394@eos.arc.nasa.gov> phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:
>
>ObPre-emptive:
>
>Anyone that wishes to take a cheap shot at BMW's at this point must meet
>the following qualification:  you must have actually ridden in the rain
>(*real* rain, not some wimpy drizzle with spaces between the drops) for
>an extended time.  Otherwise, you are a chickenshit brand-basher, and may
>safely assume my unending scorn for your worthless, posing existence.

BANG!                                                   Pttu
                               Ching.

Obqualifications:

Continental Divide to Phoenix.  Rain all the way.  November.  Thunder Storm.
Lightning.  Flash Floods.  Shaft Drive.  No problem.

Obinsightfulness:

I couldn't understand why all the TV stations in Phoenix were making such a
big thing about a rainstorm.  Then I realized this storm was equivalent to 
over 10% of their annual rainfall.

Reload.
-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Bikes in the House
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 13:47:08 GMT

The Nashville Flash (dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu) wrote:
: In article <16110233@hpsad.sad.hp.com> frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball) writes:
: >I used to keep my bike in my apartment.  
: >The bike was parked on cardboard in the living room (old bicycle boxes 
: >work great).  It provides another chair for the room also.  
: >I took it into the kitchen to set the valves, but I still did the 
: >oil changes outside.  It got kind of crowded when I got the second bike.
: >
: >The landlord came in once and walked around both bikes.  She pretended
: >they didn't exist.
: 
: Back when I used to rent a house, my landlord called me at 9:00 on a Sunday
: morning to tell me that someone would be coming by in about an hour to look 
: at the property with an interest in buying.  Pissed off at the short notice 
: and being awakened early, I elected not to "clean the place up" as had been 
: requested.  The visitors walked past the R69S in the living room, the 
: sidecar in the bedroom and the R25 in the kitchen without a second glance.  
: 
: They bought the house and the owner's son moved into the upstairs apartment.   
: He later told me that his mother never even noticed the bikes as she was 
: looking at the walls, floors, ceiling, windows and similar items of interest 
: to a landlord.
: 
: BTW a large sheet of plastic over which a full sheet of 1/2" plywood is 
: laid makes a reasonable work area for a winter project.

I have rebuilt several bikes "indoors".  The most noticeable was an XS1100
which I rebuilt in my first floor (UK) flat.  I assembled it downstairs though.
It took four large blokes (well, me and three large blokes) to carry the motor
downstairs.  They are a trifle on the large size...  The frame took up most of
the space in the hall.  You never realise how large cartain parts are (like
fairings and petrol tanks on XS1100s) until you bring them inside.

Some bastards 'alf-inched it during the night following the re-assemble!!!!!!


Nick (the Angry-Now Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   remembering dialling 999


M'Lud.
From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (KYLE CASSIDY)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:29:21 GMT
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey

In article <1992Nov9.180340.23736@ncsu.edu> news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System) writes:
>From: news@ncsu.edu (USENET News System)
>Subject: Re: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)


holy cow! USENET NEWS SYSTEM _speaks!_ 

what does this mean? we have woken she slumbering Giant! (only godzilla can 
save us, methinks....)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Uneven Front tyre
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 21:33:25 GMT

In article <LOTTO.92Nov5090906@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>>>>>> On 4 Nov 92 17:00:34 GMT, erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup) said:
>erik> 	Sounds like what you are describing is the front tire
>"cupping".
>Yes
>erik> This is caused by using the front brake.
>NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>It is commonly caused by underinflation.

...not entirely. Erik is right. (!!!!!!)

It is worsened by underinflation, but on a light, short bike, neither proper 
inflation nor premium tires will eliminate the problem. I religiously 
maintain proper pressure in my tires, and all of them, the Dunlops, 
Metzelers, Bridgestones, etc., scallopped as they wore. 

It has to do with the enormous braking forces on a front tire on a bike. This 
is worse than on RWD cars & long, heavy bikes because short bikes transfer 
more of their weight to the front during braking and the front tire has to do
all the work. Our RZ is particularly hard on front tires, and it also dives 
a lot under braking. By the same token, the rear gets scalloped the other 
way, due to acceleration. Our Yamaha Radian, which is just as fast but is 
heavier and doesn't pitch on the suspension as much, does not scallop the 
rear tire. It does it to the front tire, but not as much as does the RZ 350 
(although the Radian does not stop as well either). 

I don't know what the story is with big bikes that don't throw their weight 
around as much, but to me, front-tire scalopping is just a fact of life.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: BSA twins
Keywords: BSA, A50, A65
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:30:39 GMT

In article <61788@mimsy.umd.edu> leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill) writes:
>At the risk of setting a precident, I have a motorcycle-related question... 8^)
>
>I'm looking for information on BSA vertical twin motors, mid- to late-'60s
>vintage.  What were the strong points about these motors, and what were
>the weak points?  I've heard that the twins weren't nearly as good as the
>singles, and that the bearings in particular were cruft.  Anybody care to
>confirm or deny?  I'm somewhat more interested in details for the A65 over
>the A50 if that makes a difference, but I think the only real difference
>was the bore/stroke dimensions.

Strong points: Look good, sound good, decent power. Easy to work on, more 
               nearly oil tight than Triumphs, due to pushrod tubes being
               integral part of cylinder casting (similar to Norton).

Weak points: vibration, parts availability (not as easy as Triumph, at least
             in this area), vibration, they shake a lot, they make your hands
             and butt tingle, and did I mention vibration? I've read of the
             supposed weakness of the driveside main bearing. It's commonly
             converted to a roller. I never had to do this to mine. It vibrated
             so badly, I never put enough miles on to wear it out.

    I still ride Triumph and Norton, among others, so I'm not particularly
sensitive to vibration. However, my Lightning was just plain intolerable for
extended riding at anything over about 55mph.


Jeff Achenbach
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: WHAT WAS IT?
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 10:10:41 GMT

In article <1dpv8sINNfhm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>saw an interesting bike today....first..some facts..i'm a wanna be
>biker..sort of..never had one..but i love bikes..and like to read

     [stream-of-consciousness posting deleted]

>variations..and maybe some performance specs for it..just to satisfy my
>curiostiy..email'd be nice.but posting is ok too..thanx!

This must be the guy that wrote Bush's speeches.

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|        Cliff Weston           DoD# 0598          '92 Seca II (Tem)       |
|                                                                          |
|       My buddy and I just did it on a CM400 and a Nighthawk S.           |
|                  All the way from Philly, too.                           |
|                                                                          |
|                          -- Eric Rescorla                                |
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From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The season's first rain = zero traction?
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:50:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: emoryu1.1321
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

danny@turing.ac.uk (Danny Pearce) writes:
: 
: |> 
: |> Come to England and ride around here for a few months.  Now would be a good 
: |> time.  If you're still alive at the end of that time, your riding skills and
: |> survival instincts should have improved somewhat.  Oh, and bring your wet suit.
: |> 
: |> 
: 
: Ha, You think its wet in England... You havn't seen wet. :^)
: 
: Come to Scotland and ride around here for a few months.  You'll soon know what rain is.
: 
: Danny (From the land of horizontal rain)
: -- 

	Well us blokes over on this side of the pond get rain that is
	much bigger that anything you ever get over there...big
	country, big Storms...Our Thunder Storms sometimes sound like
	the Gods are fighting...Get out in the farmlands and watch the
	storm clouds roll in...it looks like a massive wall several
	miles high that is about to fall and squish you....I'm sure the
	texans around here can second this...

				Ryan
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hquiniou@bnr.ca (Henri Quiniou)
Subject: Re: Katanas and the KotLQ
Reply-To: hquiniou@bnr.ca (Henri Quiniou)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:52:45 GMT

I had that bike for 3 years. Very easy to ride, leans smoothly, good breaks but I still don't like the look (bought it from a friend, good deal at that time). Not a supersport bike but broke my back anyway on a 12 days trip (over 7000km).
It's a fun bike though (2nd gear is wild!!) but nothing more (not as stable as new sportbikes are, lots of vibrations starting at 150km/h).

Try to convince her, the bike has poor looks! (or else, forget about the look in go for a 4 in 1 exhaust pipe: you'll get a lot more from the engine).

Ciao,

Henri Quiniou