From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead and the Mixolydian Mode...
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 22:10:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.200248.4240@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
> brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:
>>Question, is this or is this not a recreational
>>newsgroup(rec.music.gdead)? So we need this highly technical
>>disscusion on how it is the Dead manage to Jam so well.
>
>Youre right, Todd, it would be much better to have more subject lines like
>"assholes" and "dickheads and valium" than actual discussion of the music.
>>
>

Guess I wasn't clear here, I'm not against discussions of music at
all, just as I'm not against discussions of Art and Photography
subjects I'm more schooled in, but even in those areas I find
discussions of this sort nonessential to the essense of the
subject. Guess you could say I'm somewhat of an anti-technician,
or anti-establishment sort of person.

During the rise of impressionism and cubism, the traditional schools
of "Offical" art looked upon such artists as Matise, Van Gough,
Picasso, and many other who comprise most of the great modern artists
as uneducated, and not artists.

Possibly it was there lack of training in the nontraditional asspects
of art that eventualy created something though, and emotionally
provocitive.

By this I find it hard to belive as Jerry and the Dead are playing
they are thinking of modal jams, and all the various scales possible,
I hope they have more of an intutional feel for where they are and
where they go, possibly it is more emotion that dictates the actual 
music, which is why it is so well recieved by many types of people.

>should we call it sci.gdead?!?! alt.flame.gdead? alt.fan.gdead?
>
>NAHAAAAAHHH, rec.music.gdead suits me fine. Maybe rec.gdead would be a little
>more accurate, given the amount of non-musical discussion that goes on..
>

Well never called for a name change, but it looks as though we could
use sci.music.techniques.dead:-)

>>Question, is not Phil the only schooled musician in the group, and
>>thus probably the only one who is able to offically grasp these
>>great technical discussions.
>
>Just becuase ya aint gone to music school dont mean you cant do awesome
>modal jams. Damn good thing, or else jazz would have lost alot. 
>Anyway, Miles Davis had no problem talking to Jerry (according to his
>autobiography, he actually seemed to like/respect Jerry, rare for a rock
>musician), so I think discussions of wild, modal improv are well suited
>to Jerry. Miles said he and jer talked about music alot backstage at the
>fillmore.
>

Exactly, what I'm saying! Jerry has always had an ability to
communicate with various musicians, I learned this first time I
heard "Hooterrolls", at that time quite a supprise to hear from
a rock & roll guitarist:-)

>Steve Miller ("a sorry-ass, non-playin motherfucker", per miles) would NOT
>understand these discussions....:-)
>

You assume this, he would probably enjoy them more than I do:-)

ODC: Why doesn't Jerry play steelpedal anymore, I loved the sounds
he got from it, give a listen to the first Jerry Garcia album:-)
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