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From: canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson)
Subject: Re: Cold Weather Clothes
Organization: Center for Life Fulfillment
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 23:47:16 GMT

Last year I tried a variety of gloves/glove combinations and found that I
liked the Pearl Izumi "lobster" style gloves (penguin gloves, Spock gloves,
whatever).

They were best at covering a range of temnperatures.  They were comortable 
from 15F to 30F.  That may not sound like much, but none of my other
combinations worked as well through that range of temperatures.

The lobster gloves are like mittens, but with two "fingers."  Each "finger"
of the mitten has a separate liner that holds two of your fingers, 
insulation and an outer liner.

There's also a real nice, soft patch of terry cloth on the back for wiping
your nose.  It's s.o.o.o.o soft.  "Please don't squueze the mittens."

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From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: 700c knobbies
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:29:54 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek

In article <36630074@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> andrews@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (andrew smedley) writes:
>Panracer do a version of their excellent `Smoke' knobbly for 700c wheels.

These *are* excellent tires, but don't ride them on the pavement unless
you want to quickly wear them out.  If you want a big fat tire that can
handle dirt *and* pavement, check out the Specialized Tri-Cross II
(700x45C) or Bruce Gordon Rock n' Road (700x40C).  The latter features
a Kevlar (aka folding) bead and is reasonably lightweight.

It's really nice to see the tire manufacturers coming out with wide 700C
tires, but I really wish more bike manufacturers would build-in the
necessary clearance for them.

>I know Ron Kit distribute them in the UK.

The 700C Smokes are OEM on Diamondback's Overdrive and Overdrive Comp
bikes (Panaracer/National had them made for these bikes).  Colorado
Cyclist is about the only mail-order place that carries them.  Any
Diamondback dealer should also be able to order them.

>Andrew.


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From: martinh@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Martin Harris)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:56:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Donating Blood when Commuting by Bike
Organization: Hewlett-Packard ISG-SBU-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles

  The first time I gave blood was at University, immediatly after giving it I
jumped on my bike and cycled home, which was 6 miles mostly uphill into a keen
Scottish westerly ! I felt fine on the journey, but on arriving home and 
placing my feet on terra firma I found great difficulty in controling them, and
felt very light headed. Plus no amount of explanation to my mum could convince
her I had not just had a long session in the Union bar !!!
  Whilst this may be dangerous it probably isn't half as dangerous as being in
control of a ton of vehicle in the same state :-(. Idealy I'd get a lift to 
work and home that day. If not cycle gently after resting.

# DRIFT-ON

The it was rumoured (amongst students) that the blood doning centre in 
Edinburgh gave you the choice of tea, coffee or half a pint of Guiness
afterwards - to replace the nutrients!!

# DRIFT-OFF
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: Need information and experiences about drum brakes
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:08:19 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep10.134134.12257@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> detlef@iw.uni-hannover.de writes:
>At the University of Hannover we want to construct a new hydraulik drum brake, eventually with "integral function" of front and back wheel.
>Therefore we would like to get some answers to the following points: 

The reason for hydraulic brakes would be because mechanical brakes
are ineffective or inappropriate.

The same applies to drum brakes.

On bicycles, mechanically actuated rim brakes operate well within
the performance requirements. Therefore, hydraulic brakes and
drum brakes, which are more weather insensitive, aren't necessary.

I could theorize several circumstances in which these designs would
be offer proper advantages, such as load carrying bicycles or tandems,
but as a general rule they are a needless complication.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.tech,rec.bicycles.soc
From: jamesg@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu (James Gillespie)
Subject: Recumbent bike
Organization: Radford University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 20:13:08 GMT

I recently posted an article asking for information on recumbent bikes.  I also
mentioned one for sale in the area, but I couldn't determine who built it.  I
have since gotten a lot of mail asking I post a description to the news groups
so that the 'recumbent lurkers' may have a shot at discovering its orgins.  So,
here goes:

It is a long wheelbase model with the crank behind the front wheel.  The 
steering is above the seat, connected to a normal looking front fork.  It is
a light aqua green bike constructed of round tubes of varing diameter.  The
seat reminds me of a normal chair, with the base not quite as long, to make
pedaling easier.  The seat clamps to the frame by a bracket on its underside,
and has two adjustable bars attached to the back of the seat to adjust the 
angle.  Although I didn't count the gears, I believe it to be an 18 speed, with
the shifters on the ends of the handlebars.  If it matters, to the rider, the
chain would be on the right side of the frame.  I couldn't find any indication
as to who the maker was, so I hope this helps.

If anyone knows who makes this bike, is $500 a good price compared to new
models?

Thanks!
Jamesg
jamesg@rucs2.sunlab.cs.runet.edu

BTW, I have already contacted the HPV mailing list, but I haven't received
a response yet... :(

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: brockr@muvaxa.rferl.org (Train, Learn, Climb, Ride)
Subject: FAQ and Cycling in Europe
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Radio Free Europe
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:26:00 GMT

I don't know if this woud be feasible to but in the FAQ, or anywhere else
for that matter but, I'll offer it anyway.
How 'bout something along the lines of Cycling in Europe?  I could supply
things like routes, tours, races, bike laws etc.. from the German side
and, being I'm in contact with cyclists from Norway, Italy, Britian,
Czechoslovakia etc.. maybe they could round it out from their end.  I don't know
if the demand for something like this is there but, it's just an offer.
Is anyone out there interested?
From: chris@carnival.lbl.gov (Chris Moll)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Shimano Bottom Bracket-UN50
Date: 11 Sep 1992 17:58:35 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: carnival.lbl.gov

"bj" writes:
>Installation of conventional bb is also trivial.
Not by my standards.  Granted it's a hell of a lot easier than most things 
involving a car, but it's still nice to avoid.

The biggest savings is not having to remove, clean, repack, reinstall
and adjust the damn thing (you couldn't if you wanted to).  Also, I don't
like removing my cranks more often than I have to - seems like it's hard on
the crank tapers.

>Problem with these new fangled cartridge jobs is:  you need to buy another
>-*&%^$$*% tool.

True, and unfortunate.  But that's Shimano for you.
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From: elephant@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mighty Elephant Francis)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Bicycle for sale:
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:52:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX


ON SALE:
-- ----

Bianchi 58cm Columbus SL road bike:
600 Ultegra components, Cinelli X/A stem (130mm) and 64/42 bar;
Dura-Ace aero-seatpost; Turbo saddle; Mavic GP-4 rims (28/32);
Vittoria CX tubular front, Performance 250 rear;
Rear cassette hub: Dura-Ace 6 speed (non-hyperglide);
Look PP76 carbon pedals.  Crank-arm:  170mm.

Bike has been repainted (don't worry, registered with police),  fits 5'10" and
above with inseam >= 31".  It has steep head angle: great for crit.

All of the above plus some extras:  training wheel set with 700x28
knobby tires!  Sidi revolution shoes (size 9), etc.

Price:  $500 obo (+ shipping)

Please call  (512) 479-6925    Francis 
or send e-mail to:             elephant@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: walvdrk_r@research.ptt.nl (Kees van der Wal)
Subject: Re: FAQ and Cycling in Europe
Organization: PTT Research, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:36:47 GMT

In article <10SEP199216263488@muvaxa.rferl.org>, brockr@muvaxa.rferl.org
(Train, Learn, Climb, Ride) writes: 

> I don't know if this woud be feasible to but in the FAQ, or anywhere else
> for that matter but, I'll offer it anyway.
> How 'bout something along the lines of Cycling in Europe?  I could supply
> things like routes, tours, races, bike laws etc.. from the German side
> and, being I'm in contact with cyclists from Norway, Italy, Britian,
> Czechoslovakia etc.. maybe they could round it out from their end.  I don't know
> if the demand for something like this is there but, it's just an offer.
> Is anyone out there interested?

Certainly I am. But wouldn't it be wise to split it up into several countries 
or regions? Europe is quite large and the situation might be different in 
Norway or Spain.

Regards, <kees>

PS. The Dutch cyclist organization ENFB organizes a book "cycling in Europe" 
but that's in Dutch ...
From: gs7413@noah.sbc.com (Bert Soto)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Going . . .  going . . .
Summary: HELP!!!!
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:40:05 GMT
Organization: Southwestern Bell - Arkansas

In article <1992Sep4.001958.22303@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, les@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Les Earnest) writes:
> Six new rec.bicycles.* newsgroups were created ten days ago, namely
> marketplace, tech, rides, soc, racing, and misc.  If they have not all
> arrived in a computer near you, you should harass your system
> administrator.
> 

HELP!!!

Could anyone give me an idea of what needs to be done to get the new 
groups on line.  I passed the new group names to my system administrator, 
she put the names in some system file (sorry, but I can't remember the 
name) but we still don't have news from the groups.  What does the 
sysadmin need to do along with each individual user.  

I know this is a biking newsgroup so sorry about this post but I'm 
desperate!
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Transmission Equipment Engineering        	    Little Rock, AR
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: shammer@eng.clemson.edu (steven hammer)
Subject: Re: WANTED: mountain bike and info
Reply-To: shammer@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:17:39 GMT

As far as I am concerned you should wait a couple of months before you buy.  The new components for 93 are supposed to be much improved over last year (but they always say that)  For instance the Deore LX shifters are sealed this time (I hear) and this makes them MUCH beter.  As far as the current differnence I ride LX and have had few problems, BUT the DX has far better quality (epecially on the front derailure (sp))  this alone is a reason to go with DX.  However $200 difference seems steep.  Look at ove


r the bar shifters. They are what the pros use most of the time. 
That should bring the price and weight down.  Pros also use scads of suspenson gear.  That is where the real cost comes in.  The cheapest bike I know of with DX and front supension is the GT Avalance at a mere $1000 or so.  As far as frames go... I like steel... it has just enough give in the front usually to absorb a BIT of shock, unlike alum or Carbon.  One of the guys I ride with swears by his Giant Crf....  But he has shocks.  Some of my personal favorites in that range are the GT's and the Bridgestone


 bikes.  I don't like Cannondale (overpriced), but Trek and Specialzed have great quality.  I think the Stumpjumper is one of the best suntour bikes made and is a great value....  
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:22497 rec.bicycles.marketplace:274
From: pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Mtn biking at night / Headlights
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:39:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

dsb@gtx.ummed.edu (Douglas S. Bowman) writes:
>[You can't see much @ night w/ a flashlight.  Homebrew super-powerful?]

Your basic ingredients are: charger, batteries, lights.

 - Charger: be a bit careful about the kind of charger and mate it
   to the kind of batteries you're getting.  Batteries can be damaged
   by charging too fast or sitting on an uncontrolled charge.

 - Batteries: NiCads are more expensive/watt, also lighter and seem
   more durable both to electrical abuse (deep discharge) and physical
   abuse.  NiCad cells typically come in small-diameter tubes.  Night
   Sun, BLT, Night Rider, and others drop them in a waterbottle then
   fill the bottle with plastic goo, which then hardens.

 - A cheap reflector light is a 12v 14W garden lighting bulb from an
   electric fixture & supply store.  Mine was about $6.  I mounted it
   using the screws on spade lugs.  After a year of abuse, the mounting
   tabs broke.  Want more watts?  Mount two.  When things burn out, you
   have to get new bulb with reflector; it's hard to carry a spare.
   You also need a housing to keep the backspray out of your eyes.
   Night Sun uses reflectors from display lighting in stores.  I don't
   know where to get them, but they should work great, too, and it's
   much easier to carry spare bulbs.  The beam pattern isn't so great,
   you really want a wide not-too-tall beam rather than the round one
   of the Night Sun (IMHO, anyway).

Batteries tend to be the most expensive part.

Followups to `rec.bicycles.marketplace'.

	;-D on  ( A little light humor )  Pardo
From: miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Mountain Bike recommendations
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:28:24 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Hi folks. I borred my roomies mountain bike the other day and
tore up living hell around campus... went down steps, across
fields, and over all the stuff the average bike would shy
away from. It was truly a blast, I had a great time.

So, I have gone to my local bike sop and looked at some various
models. The ones I have had my eye on are the Trek bikes. 
Specifically the Trek 830 mountain bike. Does anyone have
any recommendations for or against this bike or any other
comments or suggestions that you could pass onto a new
bike enthusiast?? Responses via e-mail please !

Thanks

Steve
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:22473 rec.bicycles.misc:420
From: jrdodd@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Donating Blood when Commuting by Bike
Date: 15 Sep 92 09:42:24 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep12.115544.1@mdcbbs.com>, royce@mdcbbs.com (Royce D. Myers EDS/Unigraphics) writes:
>   This Wednesday I'll be donating blood.  I commute to work via bike most
>   of the time, and the question is, does anyone know how losing a unit of
>   blood will affect my ride home?  Should I wimp out and drive that day?
> 
>   My commute is 10.5 miles each way; it normally takes 40-45 minutes with
>   lights.  I weigh about 160 (5'8").  I am in good shape, but I'm not a
>   racer: I cruise at about 15 - 16 (flat no wind) without breaking much of
>   a sweat or breathing heavilly.  This is on an LL Bean Acadia (cheap ATB),
>   with a lead-alloy frame.
> 
> -- 
> Royce Myers			EDS Unigraphics
> royce@mdcbbs.com 		"Work is the curse of the drinking class"
> 					-- W. C. Fields

	I doubt you'll have any problems.  I regularly give blood and can then
have a medium-hard training session a few hours later.  the 'pros' will tell
you that they notice anything up to a 10% drop in ability for up to two weeks
following the donation,  but then they're keeping track of such stuff far more
closely.
	Nonetheless,  being your first time,  I'd drive there.  Donating blood
is so worthwhile and valuable that you shouldn't pose any risks to yourself - 
you might end up on the recieving end!  Make sure you eat and drink heaps 
afterwards,  and take along some relaxation tapes to listen to whilst having
to drive (yech).   Chances are your blood will end up in a car-crash 'victim' -
another way for cyclists to help car drivers.

Jonathan.
From: shiba@riffnique.csd.sgi.com ( Rich Shiba )
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Scott suspension fork for sale
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:37:21 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA


	FOR SALE

	SCOTT Unishock suspension fork
	less than 1 year old
	$90.00

	fits standard 1" headsets
	medium length steerer (should fit 18-20" frames)

	this is a great, light weight, low maintenance fork.
	also a cheap way to break into the world of
	suspended bikes.

		Rich 
		(shiba@csd.sgi.com)
		(415)390-1856
From: sims@possum.den.mmc.com (John Sims)
Subject: Re: Donating Blood when Commuting by Bike
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:46:37 GMT

royce@mdcbbs.com (Royce D. Myers EDS/Unigraphics) writes:


>  This Wednesday I'll be donating blood.  I commute to work via bike most
>  of the time, and the question is, does anyone know how losing a unit of
>  blood will affect my ride home?  Should I wimp out and drive that day?

>  My commute is 10.5 miles each way; it normally takes 40-45 minutes with
>  lights.  I weigh about 160 (5'8").  I am in good shape, but I'm not a
>  racer: I cruise at about 15 - 16 (flat no wind) without breaking much of
>  a sweat or breathing heavilly.  This is on an LL Bean Acadia (cheap ATB),
>  with a lead-alloy frame.

This seems to be a matter of individual reaction to donating blood.  If
you've never had any adverse reaction in the past, you probably won't
have any then, either.  This has been my experience, yours may be
entirely different.  The last time I donated blood, I rode my bike the
4.5 miles or so to the center, and the folks flipped out when they saw
me get my bike!  They insisted on counseling me and wanted to make sure
I was OK.  I had rested, eaten all the chocolate chip cookies I could
with clear conscience, and gotten plenty of water.  No problems on the
trip home.  In fact, I made the same average speed going home as I did
getting there, even being a pint low, so to speak.  If you've donated in
the past, let your experience be your guide, and use your best
judgement.

John

>-- 
>Royce Myers			EDS Unigraphics
>royce@mdcbbs.com 		"Work is the curse of the drinking class"
>					-- W. C. Fields
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: goell@nomad.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeremy Goell)
Subject: Re: Transporting my bicycle
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA/Caltech
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:24:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.214355.10684@octel.com>, hsiu@octel.com (Helen Hsiu) writes:
|> I will be flying with my bicycle (not on) and would like to know the best
|> way to pack it and the cheapest way to get it there.  Some specific
|> questions which come to mind are:
|> 
|> 	- I have access to a Performance brand soft bicycle case.  Would
|> 	  this be safer than a regular cardboard bicycle box?  
|> 
|> 	- The airline (American) says it will charge me $45 dollars each
|> 	  way!!!  But they also hint that the fee may be waived if the 
|> 	  plane is not full and the attendant at the desk happens to be 
|> 	  in a good mood.  What are folks' experience with this?  
|> 
|> 	- Should I take this risk (see above) or ship the bike for 
|> 	  approximately $40 round trip via UPS instead?
|> 
|> 	- Do I have any other alternatives?  I'm willing to try to cram 
|> 	  all my other possessions into a carry-on if two boxes are 
|> 	  required. 
|> 
|> Thank you in advance for any experiences, advice, or opinions.  Direct
|> messages are preferred, I don't want to miss anything.
|> 
|> Helen

My experience:

In travelling to competitions, it seems that soft-shell cases and boxes get
treated with more care by baggage handlers that hard-shell cases.  Apparently,
the baggage folks seem to think that the hard-shell cases are impervious to
any damage, and so they treat them more roughly than the softies.  Also, the
bizarre info they gave you on price to send is consistent with my experience;
it seems to depent on how loudly you scream whether they charge or not.

My advice:

Airlines are the worst option as far as keeping your bike in one piece.  UPS,
on the other hand, is far more reliable, and they can be fought with success-
fully if they damage your bike.  Airlines are a lot less sympathetic if your
bike gets damaged.  After all, they don't make a living in the shipping 
business.

Michael Batchelder
mpb@nomad.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tmoore@hpbs2658.boi.hp.com (Tom Moore Jr)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: WIFE doesn't wear helmet...
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:14:43 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard

In article <1992Sep2.204108.5666@massey.ac.nz>, F.Brown@massey.ac.nz (F.J. Brown) writes:
|> Hi netters, this is Frith again.   On behalf of all the strong, competent
|> women on the net I couldn't let this one go by (I'm getting less and less
|> amused by some of these postings).
|> 
|>Many suggested
|>that we buy a tandem (not practical) or that I work out before and/or after
|>our ride (that's what I've been doing) or that I carry a weight on my bike
|>or, and this is the GRAND PRIZE WINNER, that I should "pedal with one leg
|>only".  Wow!!! I luv the suggestion, and I'll do it.

>Sounds like pretty sleek revenge to me.   Pamela or Marybeth, was this your 
>idea?


No, The pedaling w/ one leg is MY idea.  It's a real simple solution if you
have clipless pedals.  Besides, my wife is REAL SLOW.  It may not be a 
universal problem, but I'm pretty damn sure most non-athletic wives can't
keep a decent pace.

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