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From: ggk3043@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Gilbert G. Kiesecker Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Asian Ticket Consolidator Wanted
Keywords: Consolidator
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:10:50 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

Looking for a airline ticket consolidator/wholesaler
to buy airline tickets to Asia.

Please respond with phone number and name of consolidator.


Thanks
ggk3043@bcstec


Gil
From: wyf307@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Freeman Yu-Feng Wei)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: The way to Key West
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:58:07 GMT
Reply-To: wyf307@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Freeman Yu-Feng Wei)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
	
	Some frinds of mine and I are going to have a trip to Florida this
	Your words are appreciated. Thanks.
						Freeman
Originator: wyf307@mickey.cc.utexas.edu


Xref: sparky rec.travel:15723 rec.travel.marketplace:112
From: yeung@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Frankie C. Yeung)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.marketplace
Subject: Travel around US by Amtrak.......
Date: 20 Nov 92 02:49:32 GMT
Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Department of Computer Science
Originator: yeung@armstrong.cs.buffalo.edu



	In this Christmas holiday, I am going to have a trip from Buffalo,
NY to California by train. As the route will pass through many states, I 
really want to have a good planning on this so that I can go to most of the 
places in US where are worthwhile to go.

	I know that Amtrak does provide a package for this. Does anybody have
the experience in travelling from Eastern coast to Western coast by Amtrak?
Any suggestions on the how the route is welcomed! I think I have 15 days for 
the whole trip (maybe longer....) I don't mind to travel from NY to Texas
then Cal., or NY to Washington then Cal, as the package provides unlimited
time of travelling within 45 days.

   	If you have any information about this, or knowing where I can get 
more information, please reply me my email.

		yeung@acsu.buffalo.edu 
	    OR  acscfcy@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu

	I appreciate all your help!
From: emct53@castle.ed.ac.uk (T Matias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: InterRail
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:35:32 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Edinburgh University

To: baer@uwovax.uwo.ca
Subject: Re: InterRail
Newsgroups: rec.travel

In rec.travel you write:

>In article <CC.92Nov13164015@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke) writes:
>> In article <endecotp.721484892@cs.man.ac.uk> endecotp@cs.man.ac.uk (PB Endecott (PhD SFurber)) writes:
>> 
>>    Yes!  It is true, France is pulling out of InterRail, as are (I think)
>>    Italy and Spain.  Most of the other countries remain for the time being,
>>    but with only the British Isles, Germany, Benelux, Scandinavia, and Eastern
>>    Europe, and none of the atractive "sunny" contries, there is a good chance
>>    that the whole scheme will colapse.
>>

I know, people always forget about the country that best welcome their
visitors (apart from Greece, but that one was forgotten as well).  Well
_Portugal_, Greece, Turkey and even Morocco were also part of the list
of countries where you could travel with your Interrail card. From what
I heard Portugal was pulling out as well, but not anymore. They have
some kind of conditions now that I don't know enough about to elaborate
here. I don't know about hte others though, although the fact that Spain
and france don't go with this scheeme anymore (if it is true) will not
bring many people to use it in Portugal, or any portuguese people to
leave the country for an Interrail trip.

>What about Eurail? Will this program stick around (though I must say 
>its recent prices hardly make it attractive).  
> 

I don't know about that.

>> The UK has never been in Interrail as far as I know.  (Don't know about Ireland.) >> -- >> --
Chris.  cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs) 
>> 

I once travelled on Interrail in the Uk and I know it could be used in
England and Scotland. Don't know about the others though.

>> 
>--
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London, Canada N6A 5C2 >Internet: BAER@UWOVAX.UWO.CA
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: rec.travel.for.nice.people.like.us (was Re: World Travel)
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:46:38 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1eego2INN8vb@gap.caltech.edu> pieter@cs.caltech.edu (Pieter Hazewindus) writes:
>citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin) writes:
>>Everybody writes:
>>>->>This is a great idea! 
>>>->
>>>->I think it's a good idea too.  
>>
>>I'd suggest starting with a mailing list, and periodically advertising the
>>existence of the list on rec.travel.
>
>No, no, that's the world turned upside down!  There should be mailing
>lists for people that want State Department advisories, and for those
>that have 5-percent-off-on-Tuesdays-at-the-Ritz-Carlton coupons for
>sale, and for "Has anyone been to Organ?" queries.  Then the rest of
>us can go back to the interesting stuff.

I definately think there is a need for rec.travel.which.ATM.works

Look we've had a little discussion and no real controversy but still
don't know how many are interested.
A mailing list would be a good idea - however, this requires a stable 
site with someone to maintain the list who is going to stay in one place
for a while.  Almost by definition type of people we would encourage in 
this group are too mobile for this role.

Should we try for a proper RFD and move this to news.groups and 
see if we can get a some movement.  Does anyone know what we have to do?

The only problem I see about starting a group for the slightly more 
seasoned/budget traveller is that the people who want to know the best 
restaurant in [insert major city here] will crosspost to our group
anyway seeing as the seasoned travellers are the ones who know.

>I do see a great need for a group called, perhaps,
>rec.travel.i.don't.say.thank.you.

Ah, but sometimes they do say thank you.  This is Usenet remember.  
Don't let it stop you posting useful information or sending people e-mail.
Sometimes they _can't_ reply.


-- 
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consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.food.restaurants
From: "wayne heffernan" <wayne.heffernan@canrem.com>
Subject: board and breakfast
Reply-To: "wayne heffernan" <wayne.heffernan@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:06:59 EST

My wife and I will be traveling from Toronto to Florida over the Xmas
holiday. If anyone can recomend some B and B's to stay at along the way
I would like to hear from you. Thanks
wayne.heffernan@canrem.com
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: pwebb@void.ncsa.uiuc.edu (Peter Webb)
Subject: Indonesian Holiday?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:46:23 GMT

Anyone been to Indonesia lately?  I'm planning a trip in late June-early
July of next year (1993) and would love to hear from anyone who's been
there recently. I think I'm going to be spending my time on Java and Bali
(I've got 3 weeks, which translates to about 15 days actually in Indonesia).
The tentative itinerary I've worked up is as follows:

On Java:

Bogor (1 day), Ujung Kulon (2 days + 2 travel days), Yoygakarta + Borobudur
(2 days + 1 travel day)

On Bali: (1 day each, except where noted)

Sanur + Lembogan Island, Ubud + Central Bali + Tanah Lot (2 days), Mt. Batur, 
Klungklung + Candi Dasa

I'm particularly interested in answers to the following questions:

	0) What are the best sources of information?  I've written to the
	   Dept. of Tourism and am reading the Lonely Planet Guide and the
	   Insight Guide.  Any other books (history, culture, wildlife,
	   tourism) highly recommended?

	1) Where are the best places to see wildlife?  If you've been to
	   Ujung Kulon or the reserves in E. Java, I'd love to hear about
	   your experiences.  Are there any reserves on Bali worth visiting?
	   What sorts of animals live there?

	2) How crowded will it be?  I know the early summer is high season,
	   but I don't know if that means 2-hour lines at temple entrances,
	   and mobs on the beaches, or just moderate crowds.

	3) Any recommendations on hotels?  I'm hoping to stay in Sanur and
	   Ubud on Bali, and Yoygakarta on Java.

	4) What's it like driving in Bali?  I know you don't have to have a
	   driver (like you do in Java) but is the traffic manageable?  How
	   are the roads? Bali looks very small, but I suspect bad roads and
	   low speed limits make drives longer than they appear from the map.

	5) What's the north coast of Bali like?  Is there anything there I
	   shouldn't miss?  I'm currently not planning to spend any time 
	   there at all.

	6) Where are the best beaches?  I'm looking for isolation rather than
	   drinks with umbrellas.  I'd like to be able to swim some and 
	   snorkel a little.  Are there good reefs to snorkel over?

	7) Any recommendations on cultural events?  Barong or other dances?
	   Gamelan performances?  Little villages I shouldn't miss?

	8) Am I really missing out by ignoring Sumutra, Kalimantan and
	   Irian Jaya?  I just don't think I've got time for everything.

	9) Any recommendations for airlines or inexpensive fares?  The
	   cheapest quote I've gotten so far is from British Air, for $1300,
	   and they aren't starting service until March, so I'm a bit leery
	   of booking with them.

Don't feel like you must limit your response to the above questions.  I'd love
to hear about any experience you had or would like to have in Indonesia.
Replies via email please.  Of course, I'll summarize the responses to the 
net, if there's interest.

			Peter Webb (webb@hks.com)


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: sheen@cs.uwp.edu (Leslie Sheen)
Subject: Re: England to Scotland
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:54:31 GMT

Jack Campin (jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk) wrote:
: brit@wagner.Physics.McGill.CA (Dave Britton) writes:
: > sheffiel@bobcat.lmc.edu (Susie Sheffield ) writes:
: >> I will be in England from 12/2 - 1/8/93 (London).  I hope to 
: >> get to Scotland for an overnight. Is the train the best way to go?
: >> Where would you recommend going in Scotland with just one to one
: >> and a half days to visit?  How long does it take to get to
: >> Scotland from England by train?
: > Assuming you will be in London, you could get to Edinburgh in about
: > 5-hours by train for around $100  return fare. However, whilst 
: > Edinburgh is a fine city it seems rather pointless if you only have 
: > one and a half days: You will not "see" much of Scotland.
: 
: Seconded.  It would make a lot more sense to go to Norwich instead: it has
: a similarly well-preserved town centre, a castle more accessible than
: Edinburgh's (most of which is off limits because of the army, leaving only
: St Margaret's Chapel as worth the bother), and one of the best mediaeval
: cathedrals in the UK.  It's about 90 minutes from London by train or bus.
: Save Scotland for when you have more time.
: -- 
: --  Jack Campin    room G092, Computing Science Department, Glasgow University,
: 17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8RZ, Scotland   TEL: 041 339 8855 x6854 (work)
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: BANG!net: via mcsun and uknet     BITNET: via UKACRL    UUCP: jack@glasgow.uucp


This is true, Scotland is so beautiful, it almost a waste to go for 1.5
days.  If you must go however, hit the Royal Mile, take a cheesy tour and
go to the castle.   Take the night train from London.  This leaves Euston
station at approx. 12.00 and as a student you can get cheaper fare.  Come
prepared with 2 photo booth pictures, and ask the window attendant for a
youth rail pass.  this costs 16 pounds (24 dollars at 1.5 ex. rt.) and
will get you a 1/3 off the train fare.  Also if you have bought a weeks
tube pass for zones 1 & 2, this will also get you a discount.  So fare
should end up being about 44 pounds (66$).  I would go with the night
train, sleep on the train, (save one night's accomodation fee), go
into Edinburgh, hit the tourist centre for directions to the Youth Hostel,
check-in, and leave your bags there.  There are 2 good hostels in town. 
One is right in town, good for proximity, and the other is a little bit
outside, behind the castle, (about 10 minutes walk).   This one is a
converted church (stained glass windows) has a new kitchen, and is about
10 pounds (15$) a night.   The coach may give you free breakfast, but is
probably not that great of food, and also the coaches are a bit more
cramped than the trains.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: arntj@edb.tih.no (Arnt Harald Johansen)
Subject: Info needed: Berlin, Amsterdam & Seoul
Organization: Trondheim College of Engineering, CS-Dept.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:03:51 GMT


Hi again folks.... 

I would like to turn your attention to an article
i wrote yesterday called Info needed: SF / Silicon
Valley.

If ther is anybody out there that can give me 
simular information about Berlin, Amsterdam or
Seoul, i would be very grateful.

Please mail it to:

		arntj@edb.tih.no
		tur93@edb.tih.no

or post it on this conferense.

If you know any other place this article should
be posted, please tell me.

Arnt Harald
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani)
Subject: Re: Customs (bringing thing out and into the US)
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: OpenCon Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:33:09 GMT

In article <1e7ftbINNe37@bigboote.WPI.EDU> babu@wpi.WPI.EDU (Babu Gopalakrishnan) writes:
>cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington) writes:
>
>>>
>>>I want to take a small radio and a couple of CDs out of the US.
>>>How will customs know I already owned them when I return?
>
>>	6. Because the customs inspectors know that consumer
>>electronics prices in the US are amongst the cheapest in the world,
>>and you'd have to be nuts to buy stuff overseas that you could get
>>more cheaply and with a better warranty in the US. 
>
>	Um I don't know about this.  If the passenger is flying
>	in from places like Dubai, Singapore or Hong Kong he may
>	well have procured cheaper electronic goods and pirated
>	(cheap) CDs.  But usually the amount of electronic goods
>	one can buy abroad for use in the US is quite limited
>	since you use 110 volts, NTSC, and different VCR tape
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	speeds here.
        ^^^^^^^^^^^
	( Sorry to waste Bandwidth, I should ignore this, but I can't.)

	What are you talking about, Ofcourse if the DAMMED system is
different it would have different speeds, but the VHS Tapes
are the same and can be interchanged -- i.e. What is recorded
on it might not be viewable back on your system (NTSC) but the
physical tape is the SAME. Make sure you know what you are talking
about before you post it (Yes, I know there are VHS tapes they say E
for European and T for NTSC, but the actual physical frame of the tape
is VHS and is standard throughout the world).
  
>
>				BABU
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>

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From: imcneill@mccomp.demon.co.uk (imcneill)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Best Grand Canyon Tours
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:55:07 GMT
Organization: MC Computers
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)


In article <1992Nov17.005728.5486@socs.uts.edu.au> morgan@socs.uts.EDU.AU writes:

>I'm intending to visit the Grand Canyon (South Rim) in January.  Can people
>tell me if this is a good idea (how cold will it be?) and what might be a good
>tour to go on (preferably from Las Vegas).

   I was in L.V. about 1 month ago, and decided to take a peek at the G.C.
Did a great fly over with Scenic Airlines, picked me up at my hotel, flight
About 1h 15 mins if I remember, 15-18 seats, extra large windows (can be a
bit off putting for first couple of minutes, with those big windows), and
headphones with taped commentary in 6 different languages.  The pilot turns
the tape on at various points.  Make sure you take your camera, mine is crap
but still got some wonderful pictures.  After the flight you land at a small
strip close by the south rim.  Then into a minibus for a short (10-15 mins)
jaunt to the south rim.  We had about 2hrs 30mins on our own.  There's a path
that you can take right the way down,  but at 26 miles to the north rim,
you won't get far in the time allowed.  Also of course allow a bit longer for
coming back up than down.  There's a nice little eating place of the south
rim too if you get peckish.  The tour that I took didn't include a side trip
to the IMAX theatre, which is well worth a look if you've never seen one of
these before.  They apparently show some wonderful footage of the canyon, etc.
I caught an IMAX later on in my trip (in L.A.) and the 70 foot x 70 foot
screen with 6 channel audio just has to be experienced.

  They advised a the time of booking to bring something warm like a jacket or
pullover.  The advice was quite right as although the sun was shining quite
brightly, there was a bit of a bite in the breeze.

Finally you are picked up for the return flight.  The backward journey is a
bit quicker as they fly a more direct route.  I should mention that the fact
that the plane flies quite low (about 2000-2500 feet) and also that the
terrain is very sculptured, means that in parts the flight can get quite
choppy, but nothing to get worried about.

The whole thing cost $149 which also included a small back pack and water
bottle which makes a rather different souvenir.

In summing up I'd say it was the highlight of my visit, I don't know whether
you have seen the film "GRAND CANYON" but to paraprhrase from it, when you
take an eyeful of this marvellous spectacle of creation, you being to realise
just how worthless and small man really is in comparison.
--

Regards

Ian.

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From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: y
Date: 17 Nov 1992 10:54:30 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Papua New Guinea
============================================================
Papua New Guinea - Consular Information Sheet
 November 13, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy is located in Port Moresby city 
at Armit St.  The mailing address is P.O. Box 1492, APO AE 96553; 
tel (675) 211-455/594/654.

Country Description:  Papua New Guinea is a parliamentary 
democracy.  Tourist facilities are somewhat limited.

Entry Requirements:  Passport and onward/return ticket are 
required.  As of September 1, 1992, foreigners must obtain entry 
documents before arrival.  An AIDS test is required for a work 
permit.  For longer stays and additional information, the traveler 
can contact the Embassy of Papua New Guinea, Suite 300, 1615 New 
Hampshire Ave., N.W., Washington, D.C. 20009, tel. (202) 745-3680.

Areas of Instability:  The Government of Papua New Guinea does not 
allow travel to Bougainville, the largest island in the North 
Solomon Province, because of an active armed insurgency.  An 
Indonesian secessionist group remains active along the largely 
inaccessible Papua New Guinea/Indonesia border.

Medical Facilities:  Medical facilities in Port Moresby are 
generally adequate for emergencies.  Most serious endemic diseases 
are not a problem.  Hospitals and pharmacies are small and limited 
to urban centers and missions.  Malaria prophylaxes are often 
utilized.  Doctors and hospitals often expect immediate cash payment 
for health services.  U.S. medical insurance is not always valid 
outside the United States.  Supplemental medical insurance with 
specific overseas coverage has proved useful.  More specific 
information on health matters can be obtained from the Centers for 
Disease Control's international travelers hotline, tel: (404) 
332-4559.

Information on Crime:  No unusual security problems have been 
reported in areas most frequented by tourists, including Madang and 
Rabaul.  Organized boat cruises on the Sepik River have a good 
safety record.  Walking tours in the bush require careful planning.  
Armed robberies and assaults on women have been a problem in Port 
Moresby and other large urban centers.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use or trafficking in 
illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

Registration:  Americans who register at the U.S. Embassy can 
obtain updated information on travel and security within the country.

 No. 92-109

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From: elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: URGENT: Price of film, etc.
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:28:39
Organization: Berkeley--Shaken, not Stirred
	<92322.085350LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Reply-To: elm@cs.berkeley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: terrorism.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: Lois White's message of Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 08:53:50 PST

In article <92322.085350LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> Lois White <LMWHITE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
=>In article <1992Nov17.085900.90612@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>,
=>arc113h@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Chris Leong) says:
=>>
=>>                     Kodak Gold ASA 100 36/roll, 24/roll
=>>                     Fujicolor ASA 100 36/roll, 24/roll
=>Kodak Gold 100 is about $4-$5 for 24/roll, $6-$8 for 36/roll
=>Fujicolor 100 us usually cheaper than Kodak Gold

You have got to be kidding!  The local supermarket has Kodak Gold for
less than that.  Kodak Gold 200/36 exp was $5.99 + tax at the
supermarket.  I get Kodak Ektapress 100 (professional version of Gold)
for $4.50/36 exp.

ethan
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