From: 2038am@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (That Guy)
Subject: Re: Ark.... Nipples & Size
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:06:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.004637.7695@fuug.fi> an827@anon.penet.fi writes:
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>
>I am a transsexual (male to female), post operative (i.e. I haven't had
>'the op.') and not yet even on hormones (hmph.. therefore I'm still loosing

i thought that PRE-op meant before operation, and POST-op meant after.
sorry, i understand what you meant, just being a little anal.

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>Unfortunately I am in a profession where piercings are not very acceptable,
>a Computing & Electronics Engineering Undergraduate still at University in
>that stuck up annoying suprisingly undemocrating place called England, and
>am just looking to finish my last year next October.  Infact, would you
>believe it, I was the first 'male' (I use that word losely) engineering
>undergraduate student here to actually have an earring.  I took a year out in
>industry with IBM in Portsmouth last year, and during that year I got an ear
>done (that was my first piercing.)  I did get an awful lot of funny looks and
>comments I must say, as I was the only 'male' employee there to have one,
>what REALLY agrivated me was that the clothing and piercing attitude barely
>seemed to apply to the women working there who were allowed a very large
>freedom with looks.... one girl I was working with there even had multiple
>nose piercings.  Grrrrr....  Not fair.....
>

i am a little surprised about this.  here in america, the computer
industry has been one of the more accepting of mainstream corporate type
job fields as far as piercings and "alternative" lifestyle choices,
IMHO.
granted, it is more accepting as you go west toward silicon valley.

something you might consider:  with your fetish for piercings, and what
you describe as the disparity of treatments between men & women, you
could think about incorporating a nostril pierce as a part of your
transformation from male to female.  you could maybe think of it as a
defining characteristic or evidence of your femininity.

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>Right.  I have decided to, at some point, get my nipples pierced.  Within
>the comming years I hope I will be able to go on hormones, and therefore
>begin to grow breasts.  One of the main complaints from other transsexuals
>with the results of the hormones is the poor size increase of the nipples.
>It occured to me that I could combine my great want/fetish with a small
>problem here.... and see if I could increase my nipple size with having them
>pierced.  I appeal to the wide spread of knowledge on rec.arts.bodyart
>for advice on whether it would be best to get the piercings before going on
>hormones, or afterwards when they have finished growing?  One concern
>is that I am told that the nipples can get quite sore during the breast
>growth.....
>

i have heard that some women have changes in the states of their nipple
piercings that are associated with their monthly cycles, and the
hormonal changes that go along with them.  whether the hormones that you
will be using will or will not affect a nipple pierce, i cannot say.
i'd suggest consultation with your doctor in addition to the net.

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>Thanks again.
>
>
>Love 'n' Hugs,
>        Julie XXXXX

interesting, the last transsexual i knew was named Julie.  i haven't
seen her in years, but the last time i did, she was doing quite well,
emotionally, physically, spiritually, and in general. 
i wish the same for you.

-Andy