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From: alto@pegasus.com (Andrea Ostensoe)
Subject: Re: KALI ???
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 05:24:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.140702.2691@bradford.ac.uk> G.I.West@bradford.ac.uk (Graham West) writes:
>Yes, Kali, where are you?
>
>Are you still living in the Obsidian Temple? Would be a shame to let it fall
>to ruin - it was such a cool place...
>
>Ho hum, just wondering
>
>		Graham
>
>-- 
>Graham West, University Of Bradford, UK   ....   g.i.west@bradford.ac.uk
>"Red, crimson red, am I the invisible boy?" W.A.S.P. - The Crimson Idol

Yes..I'm still in the Obsidian Palace..the Temple is called..hmm now
what is it called..of course..Temple of the Damned and Demented..(grin)
what else?

Do stop by..I've been neglecting my more..uh..decadent side lately;-)

-- 
**************************************************************************
"I don't ask for much..just your heart on a silver platter;-)"
						-Kali
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From: rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Is it a human right to kill oneself?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:34:58 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcm.tmc.edu
Summary: Re: Is it a human right to kill oneself?
	 fossil man

In article <justin.727591481@mik.uky.edu>, justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan) writes:
> In <1jk630INNhjo@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby) writes:
> 
> >I have contemplated often in my 36 years.....
> 
> Man, if I were that old, I'd feel like my life was over, too. If you live
> four more years, a museum will exhibit you as a fossil. :)

Thanx for the encouragement... Jesus my hands are starting to 
feel like stone......

Coz

	"Out Damned spot, Oh cursed stain...."
		Lady Macbeth


Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Subject: *HA*HA*HA*HA*HA*...
Organization: The Eternal Order of Chaos 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:29:56 GMT


	I can't believe how much sleep I've been getting...

	After nearly a month of only 3 hours of sleep a night, I'm finally
starting to catch up (hopefully I won't have to leave work again because
I'm falling asleep on the job).  But now I'm getting _nothing_ done
(I'll try to get to that stack of email tonight... if I don't fall asleep
within 30 min. of walking in the door).

	My moods are ocsillating too quickly now... luckly, I'm not
talking to too many people now so they don't see it...

	Last night I went to the 'rents to have the car checked out.  I wound 
up staying several hours - mostly spent helping my twin sis put together
a jigsaw puzzle and chatting with her (forgot how much I can enjoy both).
I was giving her a _very_ fast summary of my activites this past week...
she interupted me with a nervous laugh... after jokingly asking here
if she thought I was a total psychotic, she said I was "some kind of crazy,
most definately" and "nuttier than a walnut" later in the evening (when
the 'rents weren't around).  She said she'd have to wait until after her
Psych class this sem to say with any authority whether I was a true
psychotic or not... *gee* thanks for the vote of confidence sis... =)

	I actually got no sleep Thursday night... about 4am I got an
outside call.  I was prepared to bitch out the particular friend I thought
was calling me only to find it was someone asking me permission to 'talk'
with them on the computer.  I was in _total_ shock... someone on the
net with _manners_ (as far as talking goes)???  Our systems don't seem
to be on speaking terms, so they called back and we wound up talking til
6am here (they were out in Calif.)  And they weren't even ASHers either...
Made the time til the sun came up go a little faster...

	...so tired of screaming in my vacuum... 

	...just so tired...

	...should prob go talk to someone seriously about what's causing
the insomnia (I know what it is).  Should also talk to a group of people
just to keep me too busy to become a gremlin...

	...so tempting...

	...so devoid of light that it feels like I have an anti-soul...

	*thunk*

	...time to plod out for another day and show what I good actress
	I am...

	Psycho Kitten

-- 

Angela M. Watson / awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu / 'finger' both accounts for 
Psycho Kitten   / zaphodb@brahms.udel.edu    / more information...
Black Banshee  / an6561@anon.penet.fi       / So fah tah litha mak un so fah.
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From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Subject: Re: How long??
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:53:57 GMT


	an ASH tracking service... I don't really like that...

	but I know there are lurkers out there watching certain posters
(kinda weird having your own little fan club based on ASH posts... still
can't figure out what I think of mine) and writing them 'where are you'
if they don't post for a few weeks.

	It's going to get incredibly hard to track people once more
anon posts are made (esp for one-shot posters).

	ZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzz

	angela

-- 

Angela M. Watson / awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu / 'finger' both accounts for 
Psycho Kitten   / zaphodb@brahms.udel.edu    / more information...
Black Banshee  / an6561@anon.penet.fi       / So fah tah litha mak un so fah.
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: brown@NCoast.ORG (Stan Brown)
Subject: Coroner's views on methods
Organization: Oak Road Systems, Cleveland Ohio USA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:02:43 GMT

The January issue of _Hemlock Quarterly_ has an article on page 11
giving a medical examiner's views on methods, on autopsies, and on the
legal status of notes found with the body.  It's interesting reading.
Among other things, the M.E. recommends mailing anything you want
friends or family to see, because any writing left at the scene is
routinely taken into custody and a copy given to the family (though with
no mention of how soon).  

The Hemlock Society is at P O Box 11830, Eugene OR 97440-4030, USA;
+1 503 342 5748.  Membership (including the newsletter) is $25 a year
for individuals, $35 for couples.

_Final_Exit_ is available for $15 plus $3 U.S. shipping or $7
foreign shipping (in U.S. dollars); the drug dosage table is $3.50 (no
shipping charge).  U.S. folks can call (800) 247-7421 to order with Visa
or MasterCard.
-- 
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems                    brown@Ncoast.ORG
Cleveland, Ohio, USA
"Compared to my life, the last man on a chain gang is thoroughly
enjoying himself."                   __Holiday__ by Philip Barry
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Is it a human right to kill oneself?
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:16:00 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <justin.727591481@mik.uky.edu> justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan) writes:

>In <1jk630INNhjo@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> rcosby@bcm.tmc.edu (Randy C. Cosby) writes:

>>I have contemplated often in my 36 years.....

>Man, if I were that old, I'd feel like my life was over, too. If you live
>four more years, a museum will exhibit you as a fossil. :)

Mate of mine just hit 40.  The preceding 2 to 3 months he spent going a bit 
crazy and nearly broke up with his wife.  Basically because of the perceived 
middle-age thing.  I'm due up next year.  I'll be displayed as 'what the 
dinosaurs used to like to eat'

            All creatures will make merry   (on pain of death)
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033
From: crimson@bernoulli.WPI.EDU (Jesus Christ on XTC)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Look on the bright side of death.
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:37:59 GMT
Organization: Russell Street UN*X Consultations
NNTP-Posting-Host: bernoulli.wpi.edu
X-Coffee-of-the-Day: jamaican blue mountain. yum yum yum; better than mortals deserve...

lynn@fusion.physics.auburn.edu (Owen Lynn) writes:
>You gotta die sometime. When will it be?

when -->I<-- bloody well choose.

joe

-- 
Disclaimer: "I'm the only one foolish enough to claim these opinions as mine."
crimson@wpi.wpi.edu         jzp@gene.ummed.edu          jprovo@gnu.ai.mit.edu
    Russell Street UN*X Consultations and Development     (NIC handle: JZP)
                   Rev. Dkr. Nick LaRG0, ASC, BBB
From: crimson@bernoulli.WPI.EDU (Jesus Christ on XTC)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: POLITICLA ANIMAL
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:52:41 GMT
Organization: Russell Street UN*X Consultations
NNTP-Posting-Host: bernoulli.wpi.edu
X-Coffee-of-the-Day: jamacain blue mountain from green mountain coffee in VT.

megazone@yoyodyne.WPI.EDU (MegaZone) writes:
>euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Euclid K.) writes:
>>YOUR WILL IS AS FREE AS YOUR SOUL.  Question is, do you have a soul???
>If you're using Xtian concepts... No.

well, of course not; I'm the only one here with a soul -- all
of you are just orgain robots/figments of my derangement.

prove your existance. you have the rest of the so-called life. worth 10
points.

-- 
Disclaimer: "I'm the only one foolish enough to claim these opinions as mine."
crimson@wpi.wpi.edu         jzp@gene.ummed.edu          jprovo@gnu.ai.mit.edu
    Russell Street UN*X Consultations and Development     (NIC handle: JZP)
                   Rev. Dkr. Nick LaRG0, ASC, BBB
From: satan@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Matt Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: How long??
Date: 23 Jan 1993 16:24:28 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1993Jan22.142706@p4.cs.man.ac.uk> coultasp@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Pete Coultas) writes:
>I wonder if anybody has been keep track of how long people have been mailing to 
>alt.suicide.holiday? Do people suddenly stop mailing, if so, what happens to them....


well, it seems as though no one has heard from Kali lately...

as far as what happens to them...i guess it depends on why the stopped 
posting, it all adds up to an inbability to post, for whatever reason, i'm
sure

>
>Pete.
>(no intension of stopping).


-satan

-- 
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* satan@wpi *Preacher or poet who was it wrote Give any one species too much 
*           *rope And they'll fuck it up.    - Roger Waters   
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From: dips@aurora (Deeptendu Majumder)
Subject: Re: How long??
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:04:02 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
X-Posted-From: cad.gatech.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Sometimes people post anon because their site does not carry
this newsgroup...

d.
From: hughes@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Susan Hughes)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: In the beginning...
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:49:41 GMT
Organization: Lunatics Anonymous

In article <1993Jan25.155437.26846@aber.ac.uk> azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:
>>name at the bottom).  I think something is needed for general background
>>questions.
>>
>The most useful thing would be a list of addresses where one can buy a sense
>of humour, whether it is available in the States, and whether they take credit.
>Maybe an extension on the extra difficulties of buying one posthumously?
>
>Or would that just kill the group stone dead?
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Pun Intended?
                                
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: rsr4936@cc.utah.edu (Reay, Robert S.)
Subject: Re: Cool Book!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 24 Jan 1993 13:30 MST  

In article <1993Jan22.011041.584@udel.edu>, awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson) writes...
{In article <C1869x.4FL@wrs.com> gak@wrs.com writes:
{>Unpleasant Ways to Die, by Elan Fleisher
{>St.Martin's Press, c1989
{>
{ 
{	It is most definately a cool book.  It has some great "Death
{by Misadventure" types of cartoons. (Yes, it is a coll. of cartoons of
{different unpleasant ways to die).  It includes some of my faves (hangliding
{into a volcano, ... but I don't want to ruin the book).  Hmmm...now
{when can I get a reservation on the scanner???  
{ 
I got this book for Christmas, and it has caused me to ask one question:
Why do they call it "unpleasant" ways to die?  Some of them are the funniest,
most wonderful ways to die I've ever encountered -- methodshfile included!!


			rob
From: johnk@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (John J Kuszewski)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Hydrogen Cyanide
Date: 21 Jan 1993 02:32:48 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

(Yoghurt (Tapio Vorlund)) writes:
>   BaO + C + N --> BaCN (solid) + CO
...
>   If you can't get barium, the same thing might work with sodium (Na)...
>I'm not sure though. Any chemists here ?

Yup.

BaCN can't exist.  Look at your periodic table.  Ba forms a 2+ ion (like Mg).
CN is a -1 ion.  Sorry.

A rope's a whole lot cheaper, too, boys and girls. :-/


-- 
John Kuszewski
johnk@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
I'm not an idiot, but I play one on USENET
From: bigstar@hardy.u.washington.edu (J Paschel)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: A coward's choice
Date: 25 Jan 1993 02:06:25 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

eln118w@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr YC Yap) writes:

>In my opinion, whether suicide is an act of cowardice or courage depends
>on the circumstances or reasons for such a decision. If a person kills
>himself to escape facing up to his own actions and mistakes(eg: a man 
>gambles away all his belongings and then shoots himself leaving all his
>debts to his family), then I think he is a coward who deserves to be shot.
>If a person kills himself for emotional (and usually unimportant) reasons,
>(eg: girlfriend leaves for another man), then I think it is an act of plain
>stupidity.

>However, if a person commits suicide not out of personal or emotional
>reasons, but for the good of his comrades/family/community/country or 
>for preserving their honor, then I believe such a person is truly heroic
>and noble. For example, a secret agent who takes his own life rather than risk
>being captured and tortured by the enemy to extract top secret information.
>Or a general who shoots himself rather than surrendering his army to the
>enemy when the battle is lost and there is no retreat route - ie his army
>is surrounded and collapse seems inevitable. Such an act of valor will be a
>symbol for others and will spur his countrymen to fight harder. Surrender
>would have the opposite effect.

>In short, I believe that suicide is only an act of courage if it is decided
>rationally and logically. Selflessness and self sacrifice for the good of
>others are truly the virtues of a great and courageous person.

>These are just my opinion. Please feel free to comment.

Your opinion is simple-minded, functionalist, and extremely selfish.

These are just my opinions.


-- 
'You can't go wrong with cocktail weenies!  They taste as good as they
look, and they come with this delicious red sauce.  It looks like ketchup. 
It tastes like ketchup.  But brother, it ain't ketchup!"- Homer J. Simpson
	       >>> === bigstar@u.washington.edu === <<<
From: st891487@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Schwartzberg, Queen of Spades)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Suicide is painless?
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:35:46 GMT
Reply-To: st891487@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

RIght, now we've got the words, is it actually the theme tune?

  -Too Young To Know
From: satan@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Matt Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: masochism and death
Date: 22 Jan 1993 05:18:05 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


i am an intellectual masochist...

i am not very much into BDSM, though i like moderate domination and 
hot wax, btu i digress...

i spend too much time working, driving my mind into a mental freny,
overloading classes, refusing to fail, refusing to blow things off, 
forcing myself to succeed

and when i have a moment of free time i find myself alone and i 
begin to use this mind of mine to peel away my layers of self 
respect, agonizing over faults and facets society tells me are wrong

fuck society, fuck it all, i would secede from this fucking society
if it were possible - but there isn't an alternate reality
available

self hate comes so very easy

it lurks, disguised as constructive goals..knowing in ewventuallity
it will lead to personal ruin, and not a person will notice, because
society will ahve seen nothhinng but a person who was doing the 'right '
things... oh and weren' they proud...weren't tehy envious.. oh yes

oh fucking joy.. envy , envy my abilities, yeah you only think they 
are good things, then spend 8 hours on a friday night sstudying
heaat transfer and be up by 9am on saturday so you can get a head start
those  case studies in financial management and that hm k and lab
in ME design... on don't forget the mkting project and the aero
hmk and your resumes and a...


a good solid brick wall to slam your head against

maybe it will all be good enough in the end to inspire a few more poems
of angst  (200+ in 2.5 years  - and a prof who is pushing me to
get them published... then she asked me to read this really cool
700 pg book so i couild help her with her class - they are analyzing
"gravity's rainbow" by thomas pynchon  - sure i have the book , i may
have time to read it coem june)

i have a callous on my forehead...its great for cracking open walnuts,
but thats not how i got it

and an ex girlfriend who dorve right by without noticing mea nd a female
friend who tells me i am more than deserving of a wonderful woman, but ...
but... i am at WPI, women? what women? where?  wait there goes one (i think)

so i gues i am just bitching anf moaning and you don't need to hear it

                  
blessed are the happily ignorant...


they should have know something was wrong when i was born with the

   embilical cord wrapped around my neck three times...
            


-satan





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* satan@wpi *Preacher or poet who was it wrote Give any one species too much 
*           *rope And they'll fuck it up.    - Roger Waters   
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From: EUCLID@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: # 56
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:34:11 GMT
Organization: C.C.S.O.

You never had the time for her,
Or offered solace when she cried.
So whence the tears?
Why do you grieve?
One'd think that someone *else* had died.
 
     e.k. (01/93)
 
 
   "As an adolescent I aspired to lasting fame, I craved factual certainty,
and I thirsted for a meaningful vision of human life--so I became a scientist.
This is like becoming an archbishop so you can meet girls." --Matt Cartmill
 
Euclid@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
standard disclaimers apply
From: satan@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Matt Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: tears
Date: 23 Jan 1993 16:59:58 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu




i tried to cry last night
i fell asleep before i could

tears never come as easy as the pain

we are masochists, we give birth to masochists, we die for masochists

rethgual cinam

-satan
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* satan@wpi *Preacher or poet who was it wrote Give any one species too much 
*           *rope And they'll fuck it up.    - Roger Waters   
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From: megazone@yoyodyne.WPI.EDU (MegaZone)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: POLITICLA ANIMAL
Date: 21 Jan 1993 21:32:39 GMT
Organization: WPI Discordian Society, Undocumented Cabal
NNTP-Posting-Host: yoyodyne.wpi.edu

In article <C17wz3.J8D@news.cso.uiuc.edu> euclid@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Euclid K.) writes:
>YOUR WILL IS AS FREE AS YOUR SOUL.  Question is, do you have a soul???

If you're using Xtian concepts... No.

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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: *thunk*thunk*thunk*
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:40:15 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <szikopou.727515690@cunews> szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos) writes:

>Don't read the angst board if hearing peoples' inner turmoil upsets
>you.  This is certainly not a place to be calling people evil.  Many
>of these postings are honest and poetic accounts of people's struggle
>through life...I see nothing evil.

Um, not a flame, but this isn't alt.angst
alt.angst is for folks who are a bit pissed off, basically.
It's a LOT lighter than alt.suicide.holiday
What goes down here is more serious than just angst, and this group is 
a very valuable safety valve, I find.


            All creatures will make merry   (on pain of death)
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033
From: paladin@rajeesh.WPI.EDU (Ever Shifting Bearlike Being...)
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: failure
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:30:39 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: rajeesh.wpi.edu

In article <ogorman.728166584@unix1.tcd.ie> ogorman@unix1.tcd.ie (lucifuge) writes:
>In <1993Jan27.040518.10418@umr.edu> S106495@UMRVMA.umr.edu writes:
>
>>      One more thing I have to say:
>>I don't care what anyone says, I don't care who disagrees with me, I d'ont
>>care what they think of it, there is one thing I cannot emphasize enought:
>
>>IT IS OK TO FAIL!

>>Try it as often as you like. We are only human,and we LEARN from our mistakes
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	BZZZZTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!   WRONG!!!!
  if you fail... you may not get the degree... run out of money.. and end
  up in a dead end job... if you fail... you may get fired... and end up with
  little chance to get hired at a good place again... and end up in a dead 
  end job... if you fail... you may end up with no job at all..

	if you fail... you FAILED!!!... only sometimes do you get to try again.

>>as a corollary, it is almost certainly ok to be upset to.  It is a very human
>>and natural thing to do sometimes, and it is never your fault or weakness.
				     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	i seriously hope you are referring to the upset bit... 
  it is ENTIRELY yer fault if you get upset... it is your fault if you fail...
  (unless someone else deliberately attemted sabotage... in which case your
   failure is not anticipating this enevtualyity...)
  anger can be controlled... or if not one should go away from others... 
  that way you can't mess things up too bad... 

>I have to admit to a small peeve with this one...if you do fail twice
>you have no right to be classified as human. You are most certainly not
>learning from your mistakes. You should consider a career in politics.
>Lucifuge....


	who wants to be human??

 Paladin (ever shifting bearlike being....)	     
     Reality	       | " Wouldn't you laugh if your head exploded???  
 		       |	 No.... I guess you wouldn't.....	 
 paladin@wpi.wpi.edu   |   I would."   (Nosage, June 91)

human is the foulest name i can ever call a person......
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