HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: Hickeys Illegal In Britain?
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 10:42:14 GMT

In article <kbennett.718922815@milton> kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K.  
Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:
>...  The article
>mentioned in passing that hickeys are illegal in Britain.

hee hee hee, 
"so they asked 'what are you in for' and i said 'littering...' and they
all started to move away, so i added ' and creating a ruckess' and they all
relaxed.

i knew i'd need those guthrie albums here in the office.

hi barb!
--
Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute
     NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca    box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
            fax: +1 519 663 3789                P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
            vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108          London, Canada N6A 5K8
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Academic tattoos
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:53:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA



Try looking at medical or biology textbooks.  There's also a DNA-type
back tattoo in a _Tattoo Time_ from a couple years ago, which doesn't
look like what you describe, but you might get some ideas.


ray


-- 
Ray Shea                       Practice random cruelty 
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From: tara@socrates.umd.edu (Tara McDermott)
Subject: Prison story
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:11:29 GMT

Do you guys remember hearing about the Hegins Pigeon Shoot on labor
day?  Well, I was arrested there for civil disobedience, and shipped
off to jail for 11 days.  Never been near the place before, but it was
kinda fun with the people I was with.  Anyway, in the prison rules
guidebook, there is a specific paragraph with prohibits any tattooing,
or "self-mutilation" of any kind.  I found that rather hilarious -
like they could stop you if you wanted to.  

Later on in my stay, I asked one of the regular inmates about having
my nails clipped.  There's a rather short supply of sharp objects like
scissors or knives, as you can well imagine.  She told me to ask the
doctor (a funny little man that had cross eyes where the eyeballs
shook constantly.  Not a person I'd like to trust my health to) to use
them in his office.  She then told me that the men were using them to
give themselves tattoos.  That night while I was locked up in my cell,
I couldn't help but be a little repulsed by the idea of giving oneself
a tattoo with nail clippers, of all things!!!  Needless to say, I
declined the use of them.. I could wait a few more days to cut my
nails.

Maybe the tattoos were on unwilling people... The men there were
rather bestial in nature (rape happens there occasionally so I was
told). 

Oh, one last thing.  All the activists in my cell block batted around
the idea of getting pigeons tattooed in between our butt cheeks to show
the guards that stripsearched us the following year - if there was a
next year (which there will most likely be).

Tara
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: fhm@well.sf.ca.us (Frank Miles)
Subject: Re: Tired of seeing the same tat!
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:00:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.042345.20738@news.Hawaii.Edu> teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima) writes:
>I have a dolphin tat on my left shoulder blade that I got 4 years ago.
>It signified a change in my life (break-up and subsequent freedom from
>a loving but unhappy 6-year relationship), which symbolized my love of
>the ocean, the freedom to be able to swim where I pleased, and to
>be in harmony with the ocean as a diver.
>
>Granted, I work in an oceanarium and I also live in Hawaii. But it's
>getting pretty ridiculous--I personally know of six (count 'em--SIX)
>women who have dolphin tats! Of course they're all smaller than a 3
>inch square (like mine), and they're either on shoulder blades or on
>the pelvic bone. It was a pretty personal decision to get inked at the
>time, and I put it on my shoulder blade because I chose not to show it
>when I wore regular clothes.
>
>However I am tired of hearing "Oh, I've got one too!" I am very, very
>seriously considering getting inked over the area with something to
>cover it up. Jilara has some nice owl work--I'm seriously considering
>getting a very realistic wildlife tat of some sort (I was thinking
>about it anyway, but now I want it to cover the stupid dolphin thing).
>
>What do you guys think? I hate being part of a crowd, but it looks
>like this dolphin is the cherry and rose of the 90s. Opinions?
>Suggestions? Any suggestions for a wildlife species? (I also want to
>get a gecko or salamander wrapping my wrist or ankle--but I'll save
>that for later).
>
>Aloha-- 
>--
>A. Lani Teshima (teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu)       o | /_/_/ "Sea Hare"
>Student, UH School of Library & Information Studies     o|<0_0>--------*
>A small mind is easily filled with faith.                 \=^-| |____| | 
>Blessed is a mind too small for doubt.                        \_}B   \_}B


Well, either the image is still meaningful for you or it isn't, regardless
of how many other people have it. I've got a dragon running the length of
my right arm, a fairly standard image (albeit custom drawn and integrated
with tribal work by Eddie D.); it has a lot of significance to me even
though there's thousands of people running around with dragons on their
arms. I'd suggest waiting a while, thinking about what the tattoo *really*
means to you, and seeing what comes up. IMHO, of course.

Life is derivative.
-- 
Frank Miles  |  fhm@well.sf.ca.us  |  "The written word is a lie"  PIL
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal)
Subject: Re: Prince Albert problems
Keywords: Prince Albert problems healing infections
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:09:53 GMT

In article <Bw0qH9.7Bu@umassd.edu> lambda@cis.umassd.edu (David G. Beals) writes:
>Unfortunately, my P.A. is being rather stubborn about healing up.
>
>1> I had one infection about two weeks ago. I went to the doctor for it and
>   he prescribed some antibiotics for it. The infection was barely noticeable
>   to begin with (a small, red, pimple-like sore appeared) and vanished after
>   a week of antibiotics and neosporin.
>
>2> It looks as if some sort of infection/rash is starting again...

Did you take/use the antibiotics for the full length of time your doctor told
you to?  Or did you stop as soon as the infection seemed to go away?  If you
did the latter, all you succeeded in doing is killing off the susceptible
bacteria and left the resistant ones to grow and reproduce and cause another
infection.

__   -paul asente
\/     asente@adobe.com   ...decwrl!adobe!asente   moo-bear@cs.stanford.edu

I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is:  I
only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express sentiments that
differentiate me from a doormat.		-Rebecca West, 1913
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: <None>
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:18:30 GMT

Yeah, Yeah, I know it's my body.  I just wanted to find out what other people's
experiences have been.  I like to take risks, sometimes.  Bu this is one thing
I don't want to walk into blindly.-- 
BCorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
The stylin' chick with an attitude. I'm studying video/LBGS/Women's stu.
"Honey there's plastic in the bed." - Heather
"I just might die with a smile on my face afterall." - Morrissey
"I've got more than one membership to more than one club." - Ani Difrancoz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Tired of seeing the same tat!
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 11 Oct 92 15:27:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> However I am tired of hearing "Oh, I've got one too!" I am very, very
-> seriously considering getting inked over the area with something to
-> cover it up.

 Find someone good at cover-ups, and have them alter it into a shark,
seal, or whatever.
                                                                                              
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Re: Blacklight tattoos?!
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 09:41:32 GMT

Chris Beaumont (ccat@netcom.com) wrote:
: A friend of mine was mentioning that she had just gotten a tattoo
: that was only visible under blacklight.
: I hav'nt ever heard of this..does anyone have any more information
: whether these tats are SAFE!?
: Or where they can be gotten, what they look like..
: (I live in SF,CA.)
: -Chris.
: 
: please reply via email..don't read this group regularly..

I would be interested in this too so either post here or send me your
information also.: 
: 
: 
: -- 
: --
: Chris Beaumont   "Zero gravity will supply man with an entirely new kind of
: POB 170156              erotica...and it's about time." 
: SF,CA 94117                       Arthur C. Clarke

--
---------------------------
| UP TIGHT                 | 
| OUT OF SIGHT             |
| EVERY THING IS ALL RIGHT | 
___________________________

The usual disclaimer of self
 and employer applies to all
 above comments.
#
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: incarceration
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:20:35 GMT

This is gross.  Can't people find better things to do with thier brains.-- 
BCorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
The stylin' chick with an attitude. I'm studying video/LBGS/Women's stu.
"Honey there's plastic in the bed." - Heather
"I just might die with a smile on my face afterall." - Morrissey
"I've got more than one membership to more than one club." - Ani Difrancoz
From: noid@nick.csh.rit.edu (ky the art fag!!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Pubic hair bleaching
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:18:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Science House @ RIT

In article <22835@galaxy.ucr.edu> mmaloney@watnxt06.ucr.edu (Michael Maloney) writes:
>
>
>I'm interesting in dying my pubic hair....any recommendations on what I should
>use to bleach it???
>
>				Thanks,
>
>					manly


if your a nudist, try lemon juice.  it's natural and will BLEACH it.
i used "Jomel cream bleach" when i tryed it on a whim.  for bleaching i would 
	definitly try one of the 'cream bleaches.'
i do remember though, when i was dying my hair red, that the instructions
	said not to use it in the pubic regions.  it was probably the standard
	disclaimer but it still means "use at your own risk."


-simply noid
From: JMEYERS@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (Jim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Piercing a Tattoo
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:30:18 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.bodyart

In article <ldr1btINNshi@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>,
fishnets@soulsteppin.Corp.Sun.COM (Emily) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> I have a queston regarding piercing a healed tattoo.
> 
> I'm going to get my belly-button tattooed, well to be precise,
> the skin around it, and would like to get my button pierced as 
> well.
> 
> After it heals, how long should I wait to pierce my button?  Does it
> matter really after the tat has healed?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> __
> \/ Emily

After the tattoo heals, it doesn't really matter.  However,if you ever let
the piercing grow shut, a scar will form and the tattoo will be marred.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: PA jewelry preferences?
From: news@skitzo.dseg.ti.com
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:33:08 CDT
From: garrett@math.rice.edu (David Garrett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Incarceration
Keywords: trepan
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:59:31 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Rice University

Bunweasel writes:

>I read about some guys in London in the 60s who decided that it was 
>a hassle to have to keep dropping acid and got into trepanning 

Joey Mellen and his girlfriend Amanda Feilding. Joey wrote a book 
called ``Bore Hole'' that goes into extreme detail about his self-
trepanation. He used a regular trepan, not and electric drill. Amanda 
did the same thing to herself several years later with an electric 
drill, and Joey *filmed* her doing it. The film is available as 
``Heartbeat in the Brain.'' 

``There was an ominous sounding schlurp.''
		-from _Bore Hole_, describing the moment of truth as Joey
			succeeded in ventilating his cranium.

Dave Garrett
Department of Mathematics, Rice University, Houston, TX
garrett@math.rice.edu
*std. disclaimers apply*
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: bcorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: <None>
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:15:34 GMT

I was just gathering more info.  I have wanted to do this for a while. 
Besides, I have to go to New York City to get it done.  I'm more afraid of the
risk of infection thatn anything else.  It also costs a lot.  You are
definately right. I should be able to do it without anyone else's advice.  I
know I got a tattoo.
-- 
BCorkum@hamp.hampshire.edu
The stylin' chick with an attitude. I'm studying video/LBGS/Women's stu.
"Honey there's plastic in the bed." - Heather
"I just might die with a smile on my face afterall." - Morrissey
"I've got more than one membership to more than one club." - Ani Difrancoz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: ogd@selway.umt.edu (ozymandias G desiderata)
Subject: Akbar & Jeff's Piercing Hut
Followup-To: rec.art.bodyart
Summary: Cool (yet arrogant) Matt Groening cartoon...
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:12:49 GMT

HEY KIDS! YOU'VE TRIED THE REST-- NOW TRY RITUALISTIC BODY
MUTILATION!!

	From last week's "Life in Hell," penned by that traitor to
mankind and creator of "The Simpsons," Matt Groening. If you haven't
already read it, check it out. Matt manages to nail it right on the
head while pretty mercilessly mocking bodyart fans at the same time.

Example: 
	"You must be at least 18 years old, not exactly bright,
	 sexually alienated, tormented by unconscious guilt fee-
	 lings, reconciled to diminished employment opportunities,
	 have little or no sense of the future, and bring cash in
	 hand."

	I didn't know whether to be amused or offended, to tell the
truth. Of course, the fact that my dad sent me the article probably
didn't help at all ;-)

yours in truth,
ozymandias G desiderata
(ogd@selway.umt.edu)

REMEMBER! IT'S NOT SELF-MUTILATION IF WE HELP YOU DO IT!
From: lee@soda.berkeley.edu (Lee Thompson-Herbert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Tired of seeing the same tat!
Date: 10 Oct 1992 10:25:52 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct10.042345.20738@news.Hawaii.Edu> teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima) writes:

>What do you guys think? I hate being part of a crowd, but it looks
>like this dolphin is the cherry and rose of the 90s. Opinions?
>Suggestions? Any suggestions for a wildlife species? (I also want to
>get a gecko or salamander wrapping my wrist or ankle--but I'll save
>that for later).

How about tattooing *around the dolphin instead of over it.
Say, japanese-style waves or some other motif you could carry into
another tattoo if you wanted more ink on your back.

Actually, a dolphin leaping out of finely-drawn waves sounds *much* nicer
than just a plain dolphin...


-- 
>>>>____ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>All Standard Disclaimers Apply>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 ___\  /	Lee Michele Thompson-Herbert   lee@soda.berkeley.edu   >>>>>
 \  /\/ clueles@ucscb.ucsc.edu  "This is a job for CAPTIAN NAPALM!"  >>>>
  \/Semper Bi   	"Ave Fortuna, Imperatrix Mundi!"           >>>>
From: mmaloney@watnxt06.ucr.edu (Michael Maloney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Pubic hair bleaching
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:45:53 GMT



I'm interesting in dying my pubic hair....any recommendations on what I should
use to bleach it???

				Thanks,

					manly
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: NE0152@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: re: branding question.
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 19:46:14 GMT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: kfseefel@mtu.edu (KURT F. SEEFELDT)
Subject: Branding question.
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:42:13 GMT

I am interested about information about branding ones-self.
I would like to brand myself and don't particularly want to
screw things up.  Is there a metal that is better than others
for this application?  I'm sure that there are many things to
consider that I may be overlooking.  Please post or e-mail
information.

Thanks in advance.

 - kurt <kfseefel@mtu.edu>

Yes, there is at least one thing you may have overlooked. Have you had your
head checked lately? I think you maybe missing your brain!

CDS




Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: clc@nevada.edu (Chris L. Cobb)
Subject: Re: PA jewelry preferences?
Organization: UCCSNCS
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:26:22 GMT

troyer@cgl.ucsf.edu writes:
>What are people's preferences when it comes to PA jewelry?
>Fixed bead vs. captive bead vs curved barbell thingy?

My favorite piece is a 6ga, 3/4", stainless steel captive bead
ring.  I have to use expansion pliers to get the bead in and out.
The only problem is that it's noisy.  The bead rattles around
when I walk.  No matter how tightly I close the ring back into
the bead, I can still hear it rattle.  Any suggestions on how to
silence it?  ;-)

My next favorite is a 12 ga, 5/8", magenta, niobium, captive bead
ring with a stainless steel ball.  I have no problems getting the
bead in and out.

I have no experience with the curved barbells although I'm
definitely interested.

>Do you have a tendancy to lose captive beads?

There's no chance of losing the bead in a 6ga ring and I've never
had the bead fall out of my 12 ga.

I've had more trouble with the beads falling out of my 14 ga,
5/8", stainless steel circular barbell.  I had to give up on
wearing that in my PA.  It's now in my right nipple (just got it
pierced last night).

>Is one "more aesthetically pleasing?"

I like large gauge rings in PAs.  I also like wearing multiple
rings.  Before I got the 6ga, I was wearing one 12ga and two
14ga rings at a time.

---
Chris L. Cobb -- clc@nevada.edu -- B0 f t+ w c+ g k+ s++ p

Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: got a painful ampallang...
	<JET.92Oct12013524@boxer.nas.nasa.gov>
	<1992Oct13.154843.8257@Princeton.EDU>
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:01:48

"clements" == John Brinckerhoff Clements <clements@burst.Princeton.EDU> writes:
clements> and the Gauntlet replaced it free of charge.  However, I
clements> really think that the way to lessen pain is to build up scar
clements> tissue and a tolerance for pain.  The more often you have
clements> sex, the more quickly you'll progress towards pain-free
clements> intercourse (but ma, I _hafta_! :) )

I don't have *any* pain from my ampallang.  I did spend almost a year
rarely, if ever, having real intercourse...  Plus, my ampallang fits
very well.

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
"I love the iPSC/860.
The iPSC/860 is my friend." (repeat until your code runs...)
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: where to get tattoo?
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:10:00 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <JMEYERS-131092120903@134.29.74.10> JMEYERS@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (Jim) writes:
>Not to be too picky, but all those "he's" in your response suggest that all
>tattoo artists are male.  

Anybody who read "he" in my post and deduced that all tattoo artists are
male is a fucking idiot.  I meant the generic "he", which for you 
PC-literalists out there, expands to she/he/it/they/and/her/little/dog/too.  

>Many excellent female artists work in different
>artistic styles that are alternatives to the many fine male artists.

Agreed.  Although I've never seen any woman artist's work that I 
was ever particularly taken by, and I've never seen an actual woman
artist in person.

ray


-- 
Ray Shea                       Practice random cruelty 
UniSQL, Inc.                   and senseless acts of violence.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu       
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From: vyxter@vax.ftp.com  (Vicki Streiff)
Subject: where to get tattoo?
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Keywords: newbie
Reply-To: vyxter@ftp.com
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 18:23:09

i'm pretty much convinced that i want to get my first tattoo soon.
but i live in a state where tattoo parlours are illegal.  i have to
get myself to new hampshire.  how do i pick a tattoo artist?  got any
recommendations?  i prefer someone close-ish to eastern massachusetts.  

also, i have to decide if i want it on my upper right arm, or my
shoulderblade.  have any wisdom to share about this one?

does this group have a tattoo faq?

--
love and spice,
		--vyxter
From: lelle@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jessica Helene Andersson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Nipple Piercing = pos or neg change in sensitivity?
Date: 11 Oct 1992 20:27:17 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <QepsmMi00WB60ny=AK@andrew.cmu.edu> sr2s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Seth Malcolm Redmore) writes:

>a ShadowOfDoubt has crossed my mind.  What have y'all noticed about
>sensitivity changes?  (specifically, erotic stimulation)  My nipples

	In my experience (this includes friends of mine as well as
myself) sensitivity is increased in any pierced area.  Nipples also
become larger after piercing.  (Some say women's breasts also become
larger, but I'm not sure about that.)

					Helene
From: noid@nick.csh.rit.edu (ky the art fag!!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Tired of seeing the same tat!
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:29:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Science House @ RIT

In article <1992Oct10.042345.20738@news.Hawaii.Edu> teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima) writes:
>I have a dolphin tat on my left shoulder blade that I got 4 years ago.
>
       [various background info]

 tired of hearing "Oh, I've got one too!" I am very, very
>seriously considering getting inked over the area with something to
>cover it up. Jilara has some nice owl work--I'm seriously considering
>getting a very realistic wildlife tat of some sort (I was thinking
>about it anyway, but now I want it to cover the stupid dolphin thing).
>
>Suggestions? Any suggestions for a wildlife species? (I also want to
>get a gecko or salamander wrapping my wrist or ankle--but I'll save
>that for later).
>
>Aloha-- 
>--
>A. Lani Teshima (teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.edu)       o | /_/_/ "Sea Hare"
>Student, UH School of Library & Information Studies     o|<0_0>--------*
>A small mind is easily filled with faith.                 \=^-| |____| | 
>Blessed is a mind too small for doubt.                        \_}B   \_}B


why don't you try and find a way of using the dolphin in the new design.
	like a reflection in the owls eye if it's small enough or as some kind
	of background.
as for the gecko or salamander....  you may want to find something elce for
	that too.  i am finding out that they are starting to get very
	popular around me.  i got a salamander earring thinking "oh cool,
	pretty unique."  now all i hear is what you've been hearing...
	"nice salamander, i have one JUST LIKE IT".


-simply noid