From: StarOwl@uiuc.edu (StarOwl)
Subject: Re: 1-800-BEND-OVER
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:55:24 GMT
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bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob) writes:
:Dave Sill (de5@ORNL.GOV) writes:
:| He only wants to hear the good news.  Where's the number for Perot supporter
:| who *don't* want him to run to call?  Unless nobody bothers to call the
:| support hotline, Perot will have a mandate to enter the race, and no real
:| measure of what the majority of his supporters want.
: 
:  Knock it off.

What's the matter?  Can't handle an opinion different than yours?

:   That post is a good example of how the campaign has been going so far.
:   The Democrats and Republicans talk about everything but the real 
:   problems of the country.  

At least the Democrats and Republicans, and the Libertarians, and all
the little parties, have known for quite a while whether or not
they were going to have candidates running for different political 
offices.  I haven't heard Slick Willie, Chicken George, or Andre Marrou
wimp out of the campaign and then want back in.

:   What do you care of how Perot runs his campaign?  

I, and probably others, care because Presidential campaigns are the public's
business.  I don't like false claims or false advertising from _ANY_
candidate.

:   If you want to talk
:   about silly issues like this, stick to your own party.  

What party?  I'm a G-D-I!  An independent.  I will be voting for the
person or people I feel are best for the job, regardless of which
fascist organization, er, party they belong to.

:   The Democrats
:   and Republicans ran $35 million pep rallies that excluded dissent.
:   The Republicans brought in hundreds of young Republicans who were not
:   delegates to make it look like there was more support and enthusiasm
:   than there really was.  The Democrats wouldn't let the governor of
:   Pennsylvania present an anti-abortion stance.  Delegates who were 
:   supposed to give "spontaneous" interviews were coached and rehearsed
:   their lines up to seven times.

That's politics.  It doesn't make it any better when Perot misrepresents
what his 1-800 number is being used for, or consults his "volunteers."
Do you realize that many of Perot's state coordinators have been replaced
since Perot wimped out?  Some of his "volunteers" are on his payroll.  So,
while Perot is trying to get a "popular mandate" for him to re-enter
the race, he isn't really.  Most of his "volunteers" will naturally 
urge Perot to run, otherwise they will be out of a job.

I don't like it when the Socialists and the Fascists, er the Democrats
and the Republicans play these little games, and I don't like it when
Perot does it too.

: | Bend over, folks...
: 
:   Wake up and look are around.  It is the Democrats and Republicans, not
:   Perot, who have been screwing you for years.  This, and not Perot's 800
:   number or his campaign, is the real problem.  

Agreed.

:   Perot's candidacy may be the healthiest thing to happen to our political
:   process in our lifetimes.  To see this go take a look in any Perot
:   headquarters in the next 5 weeks.  Perot's citizens' movement is as
:   close to true "democracy in action" as you can get. 

I will admit that if Perot had not chickened out, it would have been far
more likely that Bush and Clinton would have had to face the real issues.
Unfortunately, I don't think that Perot can get Bush and Clinton to
change their political games now.

:   With Perot about to enter the race, there is has been more talk about
:   the deficit in the media in the last few days than in the the all the
:   months before that combined.  Maybe we can stop arguing about fictional
:   television characters and how another campaign should use its 800
:   number and get down business.
:
:   We need Perot to give the system and people like the poster of the
:   previous article a good swift kick in the butt.

I'll agree on that point too.  I don't think it will happen, and heaven
help us if Benito Perot is elected, but it would be mighty nice if
the candidates would face reality before the election.

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