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From: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: depo provera LONG
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:31:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisql.4147
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Nov5.190151.2943@inmet.camb.inmet.com> mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur) writes:
>The original poster thought she was prescribed depo provera "unofficially"
>because she heard that the FDA had just approved the drug.  I'm a bit 
>surprised that someone who "knows" (hey Steve!) hasn't responded, but here 
>is my two cents.  I vaguely recall that the announcement last week was not
>that the FDA had approved the drug, but that they were issuing warnings
>about potential side-effects (which I assumed meant the drug had already
>been approved for contraceptive purposes).  However, this is just my 
>recollection based on a news blurb on the radio.  I wasn't paying attention, 
>so I may be wrong :-).

I'm the original poster.  My "news source" was CNN.  CNN stated that 
the drug had just been approved (so I assumed they meant within the last
few days).  The reporter also went on to say that the drug had been up 
for approval 20 years ago and that the feminist movement caused it to 
be "disapproved".  (I thought that part of the story didn't make a lot
of sense.)

After hearing that the drug had just been approved, I wondered how I had 
been receiving it for several months.  I didn't really _care_ how, I was 
just curious.  :-)



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From: ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth)
Newsgroups: sci.med,news.groups
Subject: NEW Proposed Group Name: Sci.dentistry
Date: 13 Nov 1992 15:20:18 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Alec Ellsworth)
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu
Originator: ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu

		Name Change

I appreciate all the suggestions for the mainstream dentistry coming up.
I agree that the name would be more aptly called sci.dentistry or sci.med.
dentistry. Also, I think the listserv people should be included with a group
for those who don't have UseNet access.

Any comments/suggestions are appreciated.

Alec

ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu
-- 
Alec Ellsworth                           "Medicine will cure death      
Marquette University Dental School        and government will repeal 
ellswort@studsys.mscs.mu.edu              taxes before Steve will fail."
                                                          --Guy Kawasaki 
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: bsimon@elvis.stsci.edu (Bernie Simon)
Subject: Re: Evidence for homeopathy?
Organization: None. This saves me from writing a disclaimer.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:24:29 GMT

I'd like to keep this thread from wandering into philosophical
questions and on the facts. There are approximately 500 homeopathic
physicians in the United States and no professors of homeopathy at the
medical schools. The physicians are more concerned with making their
patients well than in establishing the theoretical foundations of
homeopathy. So, although homeopathic research will continue, it
probably will do so at a slow rate. If there is any blame to be found
here, the onus lies on those who fund medical research and not on the
homeopaths. 

Your statement the homeopaths previously used small doses of excrement
to treat cholera is, to the best of my knowledge, untrue. Do you have
any references to support this statement? The homeopathic pharmacopia
was fixed by the Pure Food and Drug Act of 1938. Genrally while some
remedies are used more often than others and it is not impossible that
some have fallen into disuse, I do not know of any medicines that were
taken out of the homeopathic pharmacopia.

--
Bernie Simon	(bsimon@stsci.edu)		O tempora! O mores!
From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David Nye)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: War on cancer a failure???
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:37:23 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <BSIMON.92Nov10073801@elvis.stsci.edu>, bsimon@elvis.stsci.edu (Bernie Simon) writes:

> Although this research has increased our basic knowledge of
> the biology of cancer, it has not shown fruit in improved rates of
> cure for most types of cancer. I'm not ascribing any blame in this,
> for some problems are inherently difficult. Further evidence on the
> lack of practical results comes from testimany before Congress this
> past summer.  Here's some statements from the House Appropriations
> Committee, cited in the July 27, 1992 issue of Washington Fax.  I'm
> quoting directly from Washington Fax:

While I don't think anyone can claim that we have won the "war on Cancer",
we aren't doing badly in some of the battles.  Childhood ALL, Hodgkin's,
chorioembrionic carcinoma, and several other types of cancer are now
routinely curable, and used to be universally fatal.  Recently some very
encouraging results (probably cures) have been obtained in metastatic
melanoma using immunotherapy.  Death rates from breast and cervical
cancer are much lower due to earlier detection.  The percentage of the
population dying of cancer is a misleading statistic.  We all have to
die of something.  With death rates from infection, heart disease and
stroke down, more people live long enough to get some kind of cancer.
Prostate cancer for example eventually appears in a very high percentage
of men who live long enough.

David Nye
nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: Re: depo provera LONG
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 00:26:33 GMT

In article <4147@unisql.UUCP>, collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce) writes:
|>In article <1992Nov5.190151.2943@inmet.camb.inmet.com>
mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur) writes:

[stuff deleted]
|>
|>After hearing that the drug had just been approved, I wondered how I had 
|>been receiving it for several months.  I didn't really _care_ how, I was 
|>just curious.  :-)

It was probably approved for some other usage before this most recent
approval for usage as a birth control drug.  Many drugs are prescribed
for purposes than those specifically listed by the FDA.  
The FDA is definitely not up to date.

|>
|>
|>
|>-- 

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Maurice LaBiche   |   labiche@bnr.ca 
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: 8 glasses of water a day?
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:06:13 GMT

In <1992Nov6.152929.19195@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jat8419@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>hunger is controlled by something similar to BGL.  water doesn't contain any sugars, so it really shouldn't make you feel less hungry.  Does anyone know how water curbs an appetite..If at all

I think you can make that case that water helps to counteract stomach 
"hunger", that is the pangs caused by an empty stomach.  Water does
not counteract "appetite" which is function of the brain and is affected
by BGL.

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: dedmunds@selkirk.sfu.ca (Darran Edmundson)
Subject: artificial insemination?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:45:29 GMT

My sister-in-law had breast cancer several years ago and is unable to have
another child due to the risk of a relapse.  Firstly, does the previous
sentence make sense?  Was her doctor correct in saying that getting
pregnant again would likely kill her?

Rather than adopt a second child, my wife is willing to be artificially
inseminated with a fertilized egg from her sister and brother-in-law.
We have had no luck finding information on this subject either here
in British Columbia or Ontario.

Is this procedure feasible?  Are there any risks beyond those of a
typical pregancy?  Do you know of any doctors willing to help?

Regards,
 

-- 

Darran Edmundson
darran@chaos.phys.sfu.ca

Newsgroups: sci.med,alt.folklore.urban
From: josh@Happy-Man.com (Joshua_Putnam)
Subject: Re: Calvin/Hobbes diagnosed as clinical schizophrenic
Reply-To: Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:34:09 GMT

In <1e0qiaINNjai@SUNNY.SYSTEMSX.CS.YALE.EDU> zador-anthony@cs.yale.edu (Tony Zador) writes:

>I think Calvin is too young to be classified as a real schizophrenic,
>but isnt there a DSM III category for kids his age?

Perhaps there is something relevant in the classic paper 
"The Etiology and Treatment of Childhood."
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From: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: 8 glasses of water a day?
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:00:38 GMT
Reply-To: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Port Hueneme Division

In article <1992Nov6.152929.19195@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, jat8419@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (TRAUMA JUNKIE) writes:
>the reason they say to drink 8 glasses of water a day, is that is supposefly helps to curb your appetite.  I drink a lot when I eat a meal, and that helps me not to eat as much.  

I saw a commercial for a health insurance company that said we should drink 8
glasses of water every day because our bodies *use* eight glasses of water 
every day.  I don't think the recommendation is made as an appetite suppresant.

>	It may work on the same principle as negative calorie foods, like lettuce.  It takes more calories to digest the food, than is actually in the food.
>You get full, and loose calories.  IT 

Do negative calorie foods exist?  I really doubt this, but I'd like to see a 
post from one of the doctors on this one.  

Laura
laura@tasvax.nswses.navy.mil                      I speak only for myself.
Mom to Maryrose Nadine - born 8-5-92             (No one else will listen.)
From: speedy@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Visiting Res Fellowship
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:36:38 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

Herewith notice of a visiting fellowship that may be of interest
to scientists of various disciplines.  I am sending it to a number
of groups on NETNEWS.  Please bring it to the attention of any
suitable colleagues.  Replies to Dean's secretary at the address 
below - not by e-mail, please! Please indicate where you saw the
advert.

Andrew Speedy
Tutor in Biological Sciences
Christ Church
Oxford

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Further details may be obtained from The Dean's Secretary, Christ
Church, Oxford OX1 1DP, and applications should be received not
later than
12 December 1992.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: king@reasoning.com (Dick King)
Subject: Re: Robodoc
Organization: Reasoning Systems, Inc., Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:22:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.160845.145703@watson.ibm.com> yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>In article <69211@cup.portal.com> amigan@cup.portal.com (R Michael Medwid) writes:
>>An article from the Associated Press today described a robot called 
>>"Robodoc" that was used during a hip-replacement operation.  It was
>>billed as the first time a robot had been used in surgery.  
>
>An article that I read said that robots have been used in surgery
>before.  The difference in this case was that the robot performed
>an active role.  Previously, the robots have always performed a passive
>role.  (Don't ask me what this means.  But someone on the net must know.)
>

In the past robots have been used to precisely position some sort of guide,
allowing the neurosurgeon to more recisely place a cryoprobe [if i remember
correctly] in a tumor.  The robot was "told" the position of the tumor within
the patient's skull by imaging studues, and was told the current position of
that skull by some sort of mechanical linkage attached to the patient's head.

In the past the surgeon actually penetrated the patient's tissues, although
IMHO this is sort of a semantic quibble since the robot was guiding the surgeon
to a point he couldn't see and therefore would have no way of remedying the
situation if the aim was wrong.  I suppose if the robot told the surgeon to
shove the probe up the patient's ear he [the surgeon] would notice that
something was amiss, but a drill-equipped robot could do a lot of damage before
the human surgeon could hit the Red Button.  Still, i imagine that the robot
aimed itself and only went ahead when the surgeon hit some sort of switch.


Disclaimer -- i may have the details wrong.


-dk
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Diet and Cancer
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:07:51 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1d5f8vINNr9g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:

>
>  I see an inconsistency here: on the only hand standard
>  medicine decries use of plant medicines (herbology,

Nonsense.  Many useful cancer drugs are derived from
plants.  This doesn't mean that any book you pick up
with claims for cancer cures from your herb garden is
going to be correct, though.




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From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: determining Hearing range
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:41:34 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <BxC15n.C5x.1@cs.cmu.edu> mwm+@cs.cmu.edu (Mark Maimone) writes:

>	What can I use to test the extent of my hearing?  The human ear can
>distinguish pitches from 20Hz to 20000Hz, but when I went to a "specialist"
>his equipment only tested 500Hz to 5000Hz.

Be very sceptical of hearing testers. I've followed the same route,
and been tested by a private professional hearing tester who sold
tailor-made hearing aids, a public health specialist, and a friend in
a psychophysics lab.  Since I had well-educated ears, one of which was
excellent and good beyond 20,000kHz, and only one of which had
problems, I was able to demonstrate to my own satisfaction that their
equipment was incapable of testing the range of frequencies they
supposed it capable of, both because it didn't have the range, nor was
it capable of pure enough responses in the ranges it could handle
(leading to "I can hear something" when what you were hearing wasn't
the frequency allegedly under test). Unfortunately they all believed
the literature supplied with their machinery before me, wouldn't try
the experiments I suggested, and didn't themselves have good enough
hearing to tell without instrumental readings.

If you now have rather good ears and want to establish a benchmark for
future reference, I suggest you use good electrostatic headphones as
the transducers. "Normal" human hearing varies widely, and even
allegedly first class equipment doesn't get near the capabilities of
excellent human ears -- it's meant for assessing damage in badly
damaged ears. The difficulty is that, unlike eyes, you can suffer
considerable hearing loss before you have noticeable hearing problems.
-- 
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Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts)
Subject: Re: Seasonal Affective Disorder - Light Treatments
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:51:24 GMT


My optometrist's office has a little lamp-and-meter that they use to
test lenses for blocking ultraviolet (making sure a coating has been
applied, for instance).  They tell me most plastic blocks UV.  It might
be worth checking for such a meter in your area, and see if they would
let you bring in a small piece of your plastic.

You might also add a layer of 1/8" polycarbonate (verify this locally,
but I think that's plenty to block UV).

My SAD work area is 8' long and has 12 4' tubes over it, this winter
(thank goodness for electronic ballasts to beat the hum and flicker!)
I just use standard fluorescents, no UV, and wear polycarbonate glasses
routinely.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow)
Subject: Cold Cures?
Reply-To: dks@srhqla.sr.com (Dave K. Sprow)
Organization: Silent Radio, Los Angeles
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:52:08 GMT

Have they invented the cure for the common cold yet?

Haven't had one in about 20 years, but I've got a doozy now.

(Forgot how bad it can make you feel!)

David S.


Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: susan@fwi.uva.nl (Susan M. Uskudarli)
Subject: Spastic Colon
Originator: susan@drum.fwi.uva.nl
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:22:02 GMT


Greetings to all!

I have hesitated posting this note here, but I am 
really puzzled and am taking a chance that someone out there
might have some answers for me. 

About four years ago I was diagnosed as having a spastic colon.
All my life I had been experiencing spasms, but no one took
it seriously -- assuming that it was related to the stress of
school or whatever. Needless to say, I was relieved to have some 
diagnosis. However, since that time I have not found any relief.
I was adviced to eat lots of fiber and relax. I do eat lots of
fiber (being vegetarian helps). I can't say much about relaxation
-- I work computers afterall :). My other concern is that, the
doctors I have visited since seem to not take spastic colon seriously.
I get this feeling it falls in a disputed category of disorders.
Basically, I have two questions:

	. is spastic colon a recognized disorder? 
  	. if so, is there any concrete advice to deal with it?

I would appreciate e-mail, if you have any comments.

thanks in advance,

-susan


Susan Uskudarli       susan@fwi.uva.nl  +31 20 525 7585
Faculteit der Wiskunde en Informatika
Kruislaan 403, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, The Netherlands
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:16:43 GMT
Subject: Anti-oxidants v. oxygen therapy
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition

As Andy Rooney says on "60 Minutes".....

	'Have your ever noticed'....

		how oxygen therapy and anti-oxidants are both supposed to 
	be good for your health? 

	My understanding of oxygen therapy is that ozone or hydrogen peroxide
	liberate an oxygen molecule which kills germs by oxidation. 

	My understanding of anti-oxidant food supplements is that they 
	protect us from oxidantion by absorbing extra oxygen molecules.

	How can both anti-oxidants and oxygen therapy be good for us? Isn't
	this a little like having your cake and eating it too?

	Perhaps oxygen therapy should only be used during an active infection,
	and anti-oxidants should be used while one is healthy??
From: fwj@reg.triumf.ca (JONES,FRED_W.)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Metabolic typing?
Date: 11 Nov 1992 19:11 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: reg.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Has anyone dealt with a company called Metabolic Technology,
based in Grand Prairie, Texas?  They provide a "metabolic typing"
service: i.e., you fill in a computer-readable questionnaire, forward
it to them, and they work up a profile on your metabolism, together
with recommendations for the proportions of protein, fat, carbohydrates,
etc. that should be in your diet for good health and to maintain an
optimum weight.

The claim is that the metabolic rates, etc., vary widely between 
different people and that what is a balanced diet for one person may be
inappropriate for another: hence obesity and other health problems. The
questionnaire has a large number of questions in various categories:
eating habits, bodily functions, symptoms of discomfort or disorder,
energy levels, psychological attitudes, etc.  No medical diagnostic
tests are involved.  I presume that the metabolic profile is derived
from statistical correlations in medical histories or studies that have
been compiled by the company.

I'd appreciate any informed opinions as to whether there is anything
to this type of analysis or whether it's just another form of snake oil.

Thanks
Frederick Jones
fwj@reg.triumf.ca
From: jps+@CMU.EDU (Jill P Stutzman)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Logic
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:23:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.Eeyebxq00VAzMvVl1v
Organization: Sophomore, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>Isn't the idea that sugar (and similar carbohydrates) will cause
>the candidal overgrowth,

it will continue to cause overgrowth if you already have a problem w/
Candidiasis, as sugar feeds the yeast.  As far as what can cause
Candidiasis in the first place: excessive antibiotic use, numerous
pregnancies, use of birth control pills, stress, etc ( I can get a
complete list if someone wants)

>but that yeast is a common food sensitivity
>among those having candidal overgrowth?

yes, it is

>Only among the credulous.  Of course many of these "candida sufferers"
>aren't suffering from the medical syndrome known as candidiasis. 
>They're suffering from what used to be called hysteria or neurasthenia.
 >Following a strict regimen (it doesn't matter WHAT the regimen is) is
>often enough to make such people feel better.

so what would you say to the person who has tried various "strict
regimes" and doesn't feel better until they try the "Candidiasis"
regimen?
From: sandipan@sdd.hp.com (Sandipan Bhanot)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: How about Egg
Date: 6 Nov 1992 17:56:15 -0800
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdl138.sdd.hp.com

Could anyone post info about the egg? How good or bad for health it is?
I have been scared that egg makes the cholestrol shoot and has fat too.
Sorry, if this has been discussed earlier; I don't follow this newsgroup 
regularly.
Thanks for any info, in advance,


-- 
-sb