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From: strick@cedar.hao.ucar.edu (Douglas Strickland)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Paint pellet
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:41:28 GMT
Organization: High Alititude Observatory/NCAR, Boulder CO



Hello,

      A friend of mine... OK, it is really me, would like to try some
paint-pellet survival games. Does anyone know of any in the Washington
DC area? Please post. 

      I am a little concerned that since these games are played in 
confined areas, some players would be so familar with the surroundings
that a beginner like me would get _SPLAT_ in five minutes. 

Mike Shen
shen@euler.cpi.com
From: rhill@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Russ Hill)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: WANTED: places to get good/cheap paint
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:14:59 GMT
Organization: NASA


WANTED: places to get good/cheap paintballs; possibly mailorder.
please respond with email
thanks


-- 

Russ Hill
rhill@dale.ksc.nasa.gov
(407) 633-5744
From: memo1993@terapin.com (Guillermo Talamantes)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Apex Elite
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:46:05 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <C1Dnvo.MI4@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, hauschil@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
(Silent One) writes:
>I'm posting for a friend who would like to get another gun but can't make up
his
>mind.  I would like to hear opinions about the Apex and any comparable gun in 
>the price range.
>
>                   Jeff
>/ I just ask the questions /
>

From what I hear, the Apex Elite is a good, durable, accurate gun.  But I've
never known of anyone to have one.  I think most of their sales are in the
military.  Anyway, the best price I've seen has been at I&I Sports $299 with a
7oz tank. That's about $100 less than stores had about two years ago.
  
     But personally, I'd get a Phantom. The average price for a Phantom is
about $269 without the C/A.  Almost every store carries parts for the Phantom
whereas I don't know of any store which carries Apex Elite parts. I'm not sure
that the barrel on the Apex Elite is removable so a SP or Armson barrel may not
be applicable whereas the Phantom DOES have a removable barrel.

     Also, Foxhunters in N. California (510)582-GUNS   has the Phantom on sale
for the rest of this month. $200 no C/A  any size barrel (8", 11", 14"), and
any color (black, grey, blue, green, red) Then get a 7oz for about $40
anywhere.  I asume that he already has a tank, so for $200, he'll have a more
popular just as accurate, just as durable, and just as good of a gun as an Apex
Elite.  Oh yeah, The Phantom also has field-strip screws and is HELLA EASY to
clean. The Apex Elite on the other hand requires tools for take-down and I hear
it's harder to clean.  Well, hope this helps. Later!

May the Force and the IPPA be with you...



        KEEP
              THOSE
                     BALLS
                            FLYING!!!



LONG LIVE THE PRO/AM!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
From: justin@seas.smu.edu (Justin Anderson)
Subject: Re: Nude Paint-ball in Texas?!?
Organization: School of Engineering and applied science; S.M.U.; Dallas, Tx
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:23:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.010119.2531@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> c_snet@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>Hello fReAkS !!!!!
>I just knew that YOU were going to read thiarticle since it had such a
>HEADBANGING headline. I'm a Exchange-student from Norway and I am staying in
>Nacogdoches/Texas and I'm just wondering if there are anybody out there that
>has a paintball society in East-Texas. I've tryed Paint-ball once before (in
>Norway) and I really loved it. PLEASE contact me !!!
>
>           The Guy with big (paint)balls KNUT RYAN
>



You better believe it!!!  One of the best fields in dallas is located in
commerce texas.  (i mean the dallas area btw!)  The man there who owns the
field also is the captain of the TX Black Diamons who have won several awards
for the Tx tourney circuit.  His field is Ippa certified and all that, and most
all of his refs out there are also lively certified.  He rents Pirahnas, and Jt
smappers, and sells paint for about 7 or 8 dollars per hundred.  So, give him
a call...Its 1(903)886-7691.  If you want to tell him you heard it from me, and
if you have a group, you can get good discounts so give it a shot....BTW..if you
want to play this weekend(as me and my roomate are) Give us a call at (214)706
6411.  Just leave a message for Justin.  If you dont, no big deal.  I can also
suggest other fields closer to Dallas if you like, just drop a line on the net!

Justin
Justin@seas.smu.edu
From: elouie@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU (Euge)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Promaster Barrels
Keywords: barrel Promaster
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:57:58 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

Can anyone reccomend a good barrel for the Promaster SI?  I'm looking into the Smart Parts barrel but a friend of mine reccomended the Armson <sp> barrels instead.  Which of the two are better in terms of range and accuracy?  Though I think that the Armson is aesthetically more pleasing to the eye. :-)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: wfang@a.chem.upenn.edu (Wenjia Fang)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: ENTJ classifications
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:35:44 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan26.172333.14086@maclaurin.bioch.ox.ac.uk> liqun@bioch.ox.ac.uk (Liqun Wang) writes:
>
>
>A colleague of mine came out as ENTJ from xmbti. After reading Jon Noring's 
>brief summary on the types, she concluded that the output only reflected what
>she wanted to be rather than what she really is and decided to test again. The
>results of the second test is XNXX. I am at lost to explain the implication to
>her. Can anyone help me? Thanks a lot in advance. 
>
>liqun (ENFP, minority type in a.p.p)

Well, in my personality psychology class, we talked about different
personality tests. One of the pitfalls about those tests our professor
pointed out is that people are trying to act like the people they want
themselves to be, rather themselves (unconsciously). So if s/he is an 
introvert person but really want to be an extrovert, when answering
question like "in a party, would you hang out with a lot of people, or
just friends you already knew?", they might put down that they would 
hang out with a lot of people, even in the real situation, they might
be sitting with their old friends. 
So to get the most accurate results on those tests, you should put
yourself in the situation, rather than assuming what you would do. 
Hope this helps.

-- 
Wenjia Fang
'94 BSE/CSE, University of PENNsylvania

Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality,sci.psychology
From: rollins@netcom.com (Peter D. Nesbitt)
Subject: advice needed
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: therapy, help, first time out
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:21:11 GMT

r NetFolks,

 

Recently I've come to the conclusion that it is time for me to seek

some counseling to help me deal with some of the feelings and

thoughts that I've been having.  I'm not ready to let the whole

world know what is going on here, but just some general depression,

occasional anxiety, low self esteem, hatefulness towards my co-

workers, etc.

 

I do not know any mental health professionals myself, and none of

my friends have ever been to counseling (that I know of <grin>). 

I work in a career field that would result in much trouble and

hardship should my employer discover that I was seeing a

psychologist.  The Employee Assistance Program at work is not

confidential, they notify your boss shortly after you call in for

help.  There have already been two guys to be fired/forced to

retire after contacting the EAP.

 

My health care provider informed me that I should not come to them

if I'm at all concerned about privacy.  It was suggested that I

look elsewhere for complete confidentiality.  Some folks on these

800 hot-lines that I've recently called suggested I even use an

alias and pay in cash if I should seek counseling.

 

Questions:

 

1) How do I select a therapist?

 

2) What is the difference between psychologist, psychiatrist,

psychotherapist, therapist, counselor, etc.?

 

3) What sort of questions should *** I *** ask when I am calling

and trying to locate someone to work with me?

 

4) Is there such thing as *** complete *** confidentiality?

 

5) What do you suggest I become aware of before pressing on with

this matter?

 

If any of you can offer y oadvice, either on a personal or

professional level, I'd be most appreciative.  Please respond via

e-mail, as my netnews time is limited.


pnesbitt@mcimail.com
From: kap@eng.cam.ac.uk (Kevin A. Price)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: FAQ?
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:10:51 GMT
Organization: cam.eng

Is there an FAQ for this group?

Cheers.


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From: me_s420@king.ac.uk (Chris Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: ENTJ classification
Date: 23 Jan 1993 12:50:47 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ceres.kingston.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Simon Dawson (simond@praxis.co.uk) wrote:
: + David Caruso II writes :  Any other ENTJs out there?

: You suggested some transfer of info about ENTJ's. I'm a reluctant ENTJ.

: When I take the test (MBTI and the Temperament Sorter) I am clearly an
: ENTJ. That preference for behaviour is how I have earned a living most of
: my life (as a manger in demanding/cost-conscious environments).

I must have missed the original ENTJ post. I did the computerised MBTI test
last week and came out as ENTJ very unambiguously. I must admit that I was
a bit surprised as being tagged as an executive type - I have been trying
to work out exactly what this means for me ever since. I should say that
I am a university lecturer (in space technology) which, on first appearance
is about as far away from being an executive as I can conceive. 

It does maybe explain, though, why I sometimes feel some of my colleagues
lack a certain 'vision' and display a certain inability to get organised, from
my point of view.

: There has been some discussion here about type changing over time. I have
: always thought this possible - although I have now discovered it is
: harder to achieve deliberately, than I had imagined. Unless ENTJ is a
: particularly stable type ?

It may or may not be relevant, but the results of previous pschometric
tests have indicated that apparently I am particularly stable. I can see
that there may be an argument (albeit a rather simplistic one) that the
ENTJ leader/executive type couldn't function without quite a large degree
of, shall we say, self-assurance/stability.

This looks like it could be an interestimg thread (well to me at any 
rate :-) ). Unfortunately, I am going to be off net for the next week or
so. Perhaps people could email me a copy of anything they post to a.p.p

Thanks

--
           |                      Chris Welch - The Urban Spaceman     
_______   | |   _______                me_s420@uk.ac.kingston
| ooo |  /| |\  | ooo |      
| ooo | |/ ^ \| | ooo |  "Second star on the right, straight on till morning.
From: kene@sequent.com (Ken Ewing)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: ENTJ classifications
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:43:52 GMT
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

In article <1993Jan26.172333.14086@maclaurin.bioch.ox.ac.uk> liqun@bioch.ox.ac.uk (Liqun Wang) writes:
>
>
>A colleague of mine came out as ENTJ from xmbti. After reading Jon Noring's 
>brief summary on the types, she concluded that the output only reflected what
>she wanted to be rather than what she really is and decided to test again. The
>results of the second test is XNXX. I am at lost to explain the implication to
>her. Can anyone help me? Thanks a lot in advance. 
>
>liqun (ENFP, minority type in a.p.p)

I'll hazard an interpretation.  

As I mentioned in an earlier post, a good friend of mine recently 
undertook the 5-day certification process for MBTI.  One result of 
this is some clarification of details about the test that I did not 
know before (and still have some difficulty agreeing with).  The most 
pointed of these details is this:  

  MBTI, according to the people who created it, does not measure 
  degree or strength of a given temperment.  It is, rather, merely 
  a sorter.  How close or far you come to the middle does not 
  indicate how strong you are in a given temperment, it simply 
  shows HOW EFFECTIVELY THE SORTER WORKED FOR YOU.  If you 
  "pegged the meter", the sorter worked well for you.  If you came 
  close to the middle, the sorter was less effective at determining 
  your type.  But the relative distance from the middle of the range 
  does not indicate the relative strength of a given attribute.  

If this is true, then your friend was simply not sorted well by MBTI.  

  Ken Ewing 
  Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. 
  Beaverton, Oregon 
  kene@sequent.com 
  ...!uunet!sequent!kene
From: simond@praxis.co.uk (Simon Dawson)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: ENTJ classification
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:47:04 GMT
Organization: Praxis, Bath, U.K.

+ David Caruso II writes :  Any other ENTJs out there?

You suggested some transfer of info about ENTJ's. I'm a reluctant ENTJ.

When I take the test (MBTI and the Temperament Sorter) I am clearly an
ENTJ. That preference for behaviour is how I have earned a living most of
my life (as a manger in demanding/cost-conscious environments).

However, having passed through my mid-life crisis, I felt (sic) I would
like to behave in a different way. I really tried to be an ENFP, you
know, more caring more open minded, not rushing into action, not closing
down decisions all the time. I even changed my job from managing a large
department with matching budget, to a three person department with next
to no budget in a tiny company. Damn it I still get ENTJ on the tests.

In the MBTI philosophy, it is quite acceptable (even admirable) to
use/adapt/change your basic preferences with as much vigour as
circumstances and personal desire warrant. Nevertheless I suspect that I
am an ENTJ through and through and am unlikely to vary greatly from that
type of behaviour. Part of this may be environmental.  The ENTJ way is
particularly successful in managerial appointments in the UK. As long as
I am a manager in the current climate, this set of preferences is likely
to be an asset and self perpetuating. It does mean that I can carry out
redundancies, dismissals, re-organisations etc without a great deal of
heart-ache whilst still being supportive to both the individual and the
Company.

There has been some discussion here about type changing over time. I have
always thought this possible - although I have now discovered it is
harder to achieve deliberately, than I had imagined. Unless ENTJ is a
particularly stable type ?

-- 
Simon 
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From: keele@skyfox
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: RE: MMPI info
Date: 23 JAN 93 19:46:03 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: sask.usask.ca

In a previous article, mthomas@hotcity.COM (Mark Thomas) wrote:

>Well I just toke the MMPI and will ask my shrink if I can get a copy and ask
>him how exactly it is graded. In return I would like help if possible I'm
>trying to get a Ph.D in Psychology how long does it usuall take to accomplish
>that goal.

On average a B.A. or B.Sc. Honours in Psychology will take you 4 to 5 years. 
Your M.A. will take at least 2 years, and your Ph.D will take at least 3 
years. So if you have not started your B.A. yet, you are looking at 9 years.

Chances are your psychiatrist or psychologist will not give you a copy of the 
MMPI and the accompanying scoring manual. You will need to obtain this through 
a distributor of mental health measures, or through a test library in the 
Dept. of Psychology at your local University. These measures are meant for 
professional use and research.

///Ross

A. Ross Keele                 | Keele@Sask.Usask.CA
Dept. of Psychology           | 46 Arts Building
University of Saskatchewan    | (306) 966-6696
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita)
Subject: Re: MMPI info
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:42:45 GMT

mthomas@hotcity.COM (Mark Thomas) writes:
>Well I just toke the MMPI and will ask my shrink if I can get a copy and ask
>him how exactly it is graded.
I doubt if he will tell you.  If the test is to have any validity, you
can't know what questions go on what scales.

>In return I would like help if possible I'm
>trying to get a Ph.D in Psychology how long does it usuall take to accomplish
>that goal.
I'm in my fifth year after my B.S. and expect to finish this year.  I
would say that is about average.

Frank Fujita
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
From: lds@Ingres.COM (AIN'T NOTHIN' TO IT BUT TO DO IT)
Subject: ENFP--just what does that mean?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:48:12 GMT
From: std_gibson@hg.uleth.ca (Jason Gibson)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: MBTI tests availability (was: Re: How useful is MBTI really?)
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:51:59 GMT
Reply-To: std_gibson@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge

In article <C13K3p.407@sci.kun.nl>, freddy@sci.kun.nl (Frantic Freddy) writes:
>In <1993Jan15.220454.11347@bradley.bradley.edu> dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
>
>>In order to find out your scaled scores, you have to take the test.  I
>>don't remember how many questions there are, but there are a bunch (500
>>maybe?).
>
>Is this test publicly available somewhere? I downloaded the xmbti test
>program (70 questions), ran it (and along the line added standard Curses-
>support to the code, for people who don't have X-Windows), and this small
>test seemed to confirm my initial idea of me being an IXXP tending slightly
>towards INFP. Maybe I'll add the larger graduation ('definitely', 'maybe',
>etc) to the code sometime, when I can find enough time for it.
>But if there is a more accurate test available, I'd love to work with
>that one...
>
>Freddy

Isn't the MBTI a 94-question test?  I remeber doing it a couple of years ago
(a pencil/paper version) in an undergrad psychology class.

And, as with most psych. assessments, I believe that the "original" test is
property of the publishing company that does the hard copies of it.  If there
is a computer version, is it done by the company that owns the rights to the
test or is it an "illegal" version of it?

--->Jason
From: bulwinkl@stein.u.washington.edu (In Cognito)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Enneagrams
Date: 28 Jan 1993 07:03:37 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu
Summary: The enneagram describes personality types
Keywords: Enneagram, personality

Since this is alt.psychology.personality and not alt.meyersbriggs, I
thought it would be nice to introduce a little variety into the
discussion.

Another paradigm for categorizing people by personality type is the
Enneagram.  The book that I have (recommended by Carol Erickson -
daughter of Eric Erickson) is "Personality Types - Using the Enneagram
for Self-Discovery", by Don Richard Riso.

In this system, there are nine basic personality types.  Each type
can lean in two directions (wings) towards specific other types.  Thus,
there are essentially two subtypes to each type which has some 
characteristics of the two other types.  Further, when the personality
becomes progressively more healthy or unhealthy, it will move toward
adopting characteristics of another type.  This sounds complicated, and
is hard to describe without a drawing, but here goes a short attempt.
The enneagram is kind of a nine-pointed star.  The points of the star
are the nine basic personality types.  The lines connecting the points
show which personality types will be moved toward when a given type
becomes more or less healthy.  The wings are the points to either side
of a given point.  To see this clearly, it would be best to get a
book and look at the picture and read it.

Now, a brief description of the nine basic types:

THE FEELING TRIAD
Type Two: The Helper
Type Three: The Status Seeker
Type Four: The Artist

THE DOING TRIAD
Type Five: The Thinker
Type Six: The Loyalist
Type Seven: The Generalist

THE RELATING TRIAD
Type Eight: The Leader
Type Nine: The Peacemaker
Type One: The Reformer

That's enough typing for now!  ;-)
I hope someone else can add to this description.
From: liqun@bioch.ox.ac.uk (Liqun Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: ENTJ classifications
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:23:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Biochemistry, University of Oxford
Originator: liqun@maclaurin.bioch



A colleague of mine came out as ENTJ from xmbti. After reading Jon Noring's 
brief summary on the types, she concluded that the output only reflected what
she wanted to be rather than what she really is and decided to test again. The
results of the second test is XNXX. I am at lost to explain the implication to
her. Can anyone help me? Thanks a lot in advance. 

liqun (ENFP, minority type in a.p.p)
From: mmh0m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Marina Margaret Heiss)
Newsgroups: alt.psychology.personality
Subject: Re: ENTJ classifications
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:12:46 GMT
Followup-To: alt.psychology.personality
Distribution: alt.psychology.personality
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1993Jan26.172333.14086@maclaurin.bioch.ox.ac.uk> liqun@bioch.ox.ac.uk (Liqun Wang) writes:
>
>A colleague of mine came out as ENTJ from xmbti. After reading Jon Noring's 
>brief summary on the types, she concluded that the output only reflected what
>she wanted to be rather than what she really is and decided to test again. The
>results of the second test is XNXX. I am at lost to explain the implication to
>her. Can anyone help me? Thanks a lot in advance. 
>
>liqun (ENFP, minority type in a.p.p)

At an MBTI workshop I recently attended, X scores were described as "tensions"
in that function, characterized by jumping back and forth between, say, I and E
behaviors because the scorer doesn't really feel entirely comfortable in either
mode.  With this many X's in her score, my best guess is that your colleague is
going through an intense transitional period right now and may really not be 
sure who she is at the moment.  Or, maybe having consciously decided her first
scores were invalid interfered with her being able to take the test accurately
the second time.  Either way, I think that if she feels the need to pursue this,she should probably see a professional of some sort and take the "real" MBTI
and get some person-to-person feedback about it.

Marina Heiss  (INTJ)
mmh0m@poe.acc.virginia.edu