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From: greve@kddss2.csg.kddlabs.CO.JP (Ron Greve)
Subject: Seoul advice needed!
Organization: /users/greve/.organization
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:58:11 GMT

								04-10-15

Konnichiwa mina-san,

On November 21 I have a flight from Tokyo to Seoul (Korea). Since I decided 
only yesterday to go there I have no information about Seoul at all.

What are the best (cheapest) places to stay in Seoul? Any popular youth hostels?

Is Seoul a safe city. I mean is it dangereous for a foreigner to walk alone over 
street at night? Many pick-pockers?

Is there anything outside Seoul which is worth visiting?

I heard that Korea is cheap and a good place for shopping. Any recommendations?
Is there something I definitely should buy? 

Thanks a lot!

Sayonara,
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From: v068mwnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (THE VISION)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: your idea of fun in Manhattan
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:54:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct9.160317.29852@igs.com>, tom@igs.com (Tom Nelson) writes...
>I'm looking for comments on anyone's ideas for fun
>things to do in Manhattan...

My idea of fun was just having the priviledge of growing up on that tiny
island (I've been away from the MOTHERLAND for the better part of 5 years 
- shit, has it really been that long? - and I miss it very much)!

When we were kids, our idea of fun in Manhattan was playing "kick the can",
"skellzies," "stick ball," "punch ball," "errors (with "booties up" of 
course)," "off the ledge," "man hunt," and "ring-o-leevio."  You should 
try out these games for fun in Manhattan ("THE MOTHERLAND" to us 
Manhattanites).

Increase the Peace,

Living without boundaries,

The Vision
From: siddarth@cs.utexas.edu (Siddarth Subramanian)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: On-line reservation system?
Date: 8 Oct 1992 13:35:23 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: deimos.cs.utexas.edu


I noticed on this or some other group some time ago that there was an
on-line dialup system that one could access to make airline
reservations (Easy Sabre?). Does anyone have any details? Experiences?
I presume this is a service one has to subscribe to. Is it worth it
for the common person travelling 4 or 5 times a year who hates having
to deal with dumb travel agents or airline reservation agents?

I don't read this group much so email replies would be appreciated.

-- 

Siddarth Subramanian          INTERNET: siddarth@cs.utexas.edu
Austin, Texas                 UUCP:     uunet!cs.utexas.edu!siddarth
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani)
Subject: Platinum Cruise Tours -- Has any one Been on any of their tours?
Followup-To: rec.travel
Summary: Platinum Cruise Tours -- Has any one Been on any of their tours?
Organization: OpenCon Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:08:55 GMT

I had filled out a card for a cruise offer, and recently got a call from 
Platinum Cruise Tours offering a Florida stay (3days) + a 3day/2
night cruise to the Bahamas/Freeport for a real bargain offer of $189.00
per person.  Note: I would have to pay to get to Ft. Laudardale, Florida.
Once I pay the money to Platinum Cruise Tours, they will send me
ticket vouches and all the details. For the trip itself I need 45 day 
advance notice for booking the trip and I have till December 1993 to 
use the vouchers.

I wanted to find out if any one on the net. has used their services --
been on any of their cruise offers and Find out the Good and the Bad
things about the trip. 

One more thing I have a 2 year old daughter which I would like to
bring along with my wife -- if any one has taken their tour with kids
please let me know what kind of accommodations are available.  I asked
the person if I could a room on the Cruise (9 hour trip) and he said
No we can't a room -- For kids they have special rooms and "Baby
Sitting" services, etc.

I'm a little suspicious as it sounds too good, and specially they say
that we will mail you all the info AFTER I HAVE paid for it on my
Credit card (I'm not worried about the money because they can't run
away with it -- but still the hassle of going through the proper
channels to get a refund is not worth it).

	Any help and info on this would be greatly appreciated.


-- 

Deepak S. Gianchandani
E-mail:giand@opencon.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel,su.market,ba.market
From: jrawles@leland.Stanford.EDU (jody rawles)
Subject: Looking for Tahoe vacation rental
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 21:17:25 GMT

I am looking for a vacation rental in the North Lake Tahoe region 
for late December, or early January (December 23 through - January 3rd).
I am note sure of the length of stay (3-11 days).

If you have a house that is available during this period, I would
appreciate hearing from you.

Jody M. Rawles				email: jrawles@leland.stanford.edu
Stanford University School of Medicine	voice: (415) 858-3914
Stanford, CA 94305 USA			fax:   (415) 493-4901
-- 
Jody M. Rawles					
Department of Psychiatry 		email: jrawles@leland.stanford.edu
Stanford University School of Medicine	voice: (415) 858-3914
Stanford, CA 94305 USA			fax:   (415) 493-4901
From: das@CS.ColoState.EDU (rajarshi das)
Subject: Traveling to Bangkok and need some pointers
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 00:28:42 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department


Hello!

	I am planning to visit Bangkok for a week in January next year.
This will be my first trip to Thailand.  Since the tour is a short 
one, I will have time to travel in and aound Bangkok only. In particular,
I plan to take day trips to Ayuthaya and the Floating Market at Damnoen 
Saduak.  The rest of time should be spent in Bangkok, its wats and its klongs.

After visiting the local library, I have gleaned a lot of necessary 
information for traveling in Thailand.  Its seems that the following
travel guide books are most informative:
	(1) Lonely Planet: Thailand or South asia on a shoe string.
				(no surprise here!)
	(2) Insight Guide: Bangkok
	(3) Frommers: Bangkok 92-93
While these guide books are immensely helpful, I would like to hear 
about recent travel experiences in around Bangkok from people on 
the net.  A special place, favorite wat (buddhist temples), memorable 
incidents, boat rides....anything is welcome.  Please respond via email.
If there is considerable response, I will summarize the info on the net.

However, some things were not fully clear to me from the guidebooks,
and I would appreciate if someone could shed some light.  
(1) It seems that to cash your TC's, one can go to the Farmer's Bank
(and of course AMEX office is there).  However, are these banks all
over the city, or just in one or two places as mentioned in the books?  
This could make a considerale difference in the way I cash my TCs.
(2) Information on how to take boat rides on the klongs around
Bangkok is surprisingly sketchy.  Is it safe for a lone foreigner
to hire boats to go into the countryside?  Which areas should
one head for to get a feel for rural Thailand?

Thanks.

Raja

--

Rajarshi Das				 das@brahms.cs.colostate.edu
Fort Collins, Colorado			 raja@lamar.colostate.edu
From: Rishi.Kumar@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Rishi Kumar)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Quebec! Planned trip
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:53:39 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service


My friend plans a trip to Quebec Canada. 

ANY suggestions?

FAQ?

Any suggestions to sources?

All responses are appreciated!

He leaves this Saturday so the earlier the better!

Thank you!

RIshi
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From: goldie@panix.com (Jeff King)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: SAN FRAN 10/23-25
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:20:38 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

A friend of mine will be in San Fran for the first time the weekend
of 10/23-25.  She would like ideas of what to see and would like
to know if there are any special events going on that weekend.

Please cross post this to any San Fran specific newgroups that may
be able to help.  

	Thank You

-- 

Jeff King
goldie@panix.com
From: rz34@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Schillinger)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Smoke-free travel question
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:35:08 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany

In article <1992Oct5.165344.24972@pencom.com>, twriter1@pencom.com writes:
|> My husband and I would like to take a trip to Europe
|> one of these days.  The problem is he is EXTREMELY 
|> sensitive to cigarette smoke (projectile vomiting, etc.).
|> The non-smoking section of an airplane just wouldn't do
|> the trick for him I fear.  He has said he would wear
|> an oxygen mask (or gas mask--I'm not sure what it is, but
|> it's huge) for the flight over. I'm afraid he'd be horribly uncomfortable.  
|> 
|> Has anyone out there had this problem and overcome it 
|> somehow?  Is there any way to get to Europe in a 
|> non-smoking environment other than on a ship?
|> 
|> Any help would be appreciated.
|> 
|> Tanya
|> twriter1@pencom.com
As far as I know, Air Canada flights are completely non-smoking!

Karen
From: U48073@uicvm.uic.edu (Cole Kendall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Traveling to Europe and need some pointers
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:17:37 GMT
 <CINDY.92Oct8173523@solan10.solan.unit.no>
 <1992Oct8.185920.16895@Csli.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <1992Oct8.185920.16895@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, olsen@Csli.Stanford.EDU
(Diane Olsen) says:
>
>In article <CINDY.92Oct8173523@solan10.solan.unit.no>
>cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:
>>If you stick to touristy areas, you will have no problem if you're
>>patient and speak clearly. However, having said that, it's always
>>polite to at least TRY to learn a few words - "hello" and "good-bye"
>>at least, and learning the numbers up to ten and a few other words
>>(like what the signs on the public toilets say!) will be a big help.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>You'd be amazed, though, how far you can get with a skeleton
>>vocabulary, smiles, a lot of pointing and a lot of patience.  Mostly
>>patience.
>
>I concur, except that for "hello" and "good-bye" I'd substitute
>"thank you."  A beseeching look followed by an enthusiastic "Thank you!"
>when you are helped will take you far.  This is especially true in
>countries such as Hungary ("K"os"on"om!") where even tourists who
>speak French, German, and English fluently seldom make this tiny effort.

Two more Hungarian words worth knowing are: Ferfi and No"; which
indicate the men's and women's restrooms.

Cole Kendall
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:37:05 -0400 
From: Antoinette Powell <ap25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Exchanging money in Europe
	<1992Oct13.192240.3716@vitsemi.com>
Distribution: na

>I did some research on this.  The Plus cards are accepted by ATMs in the UK
>and <rarely> in some other European countries, for example.  
> 
>Contact your back before you leave.  Find out if your card will be accepted
>where you are going.  There are usually 800 numbers that you can call, also.


I asked my bank if there are Plus machines in Italy, and they couldn't
tell me because the printed list they had was from last year, and Italy
was not listed.  They did give me an 800 number to call to find Plus
locations, BUT, I had to punch in a 3-digit area code, then the first
three digits of a phone number in the area I was asking about! 
Obviously, phone numbers in Europe are not set up that way.  I tried to
punch in the Italy code, then the code for a city I'll be visiting, but
it wouldn't accept it.  I never did get a real person to talk to, and my
bank was at a loss to explain how to get around using 3 + 3 digits with
the 800 number.

How can I find out if Plus machines exist in Italy?  


Antoinette Powell
Carnegie Mellon University
ap25+@andrew.cmu.edu
From: chorley@vms.ocom.okstate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: y
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:53:31 GMT
Organization: OSU College of Osteopathic Medicine

In article <1992Oct15.010439.24983@nuscc.nus.sg>, hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell) writes:
> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:
> : |>    ============================================================
> : |>    United Kingdom - Consular Information Sheet
> : |>     October 7, 1992
> : |> 
		[stuff deleted] 
> : No.   These sheets are aimed at Americans who don't know Poland
> : from Portugal.   However, most of them would giggle at the idea
> : that the State Department thought it necessary to tell them that
> : the UK is a stable democracy.    They might need to be told that
> : about Hungary or Spain, but not about the UK.
> 
> 	Um, why then do Americans need to be told that the UK is a
> EUROPEAN country?
> 
> Richard Pennell, History NUS


Because there are some in U.K. who don't think that they are a European 
country, some who resent the fact that they might be, some who consistently 
tell others that they ought not to be, some who believe "wogs begin at 
Calais", and then there is the Tory Party.

	David Chorley, late of Weston-Super-Mare
From: adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (andrew farmer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Smoke-free travel question
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 06:25:29 -0400
Reply-To: adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (andrew farmer)
Distribution: world
Organization: AFI Communications - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

twriter1@pencom.com writes:

| My husband and I would like to take a trip to Europe
| one of these days.  The problem is he is EXTREMELY 
| sensitive to cigarette smoke (projectile vomiting, etc.).

Canadian Airlines International and Air Canada are already 100% smoke free
on flights within North America, and Canadian Government regulations
will require them to be 100% smoke free on ALL flights by (I belive) the
end of next year.

--
Andrew Farmer, adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca
AFI Communications, P.O.Box 11087 Station H, Nepean ON K2H 7T8
From: PN18@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (PN18)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Canary Islands  Info request
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:27:00 GMT
Organization: McGill University

We looked at the paper today, and saw advertisements for the
Canary Islands.  Sounds interesting.
But what is there to fdo ?
Any tips, info?
Any good hotel recommendation?
Thanks
Marc
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Smoke-free travel question
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:24:11 GMT
	<Bvv9wv.IKy@apollo.hp.com>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <Bvv9wv.IKy@apollo.hp.com> nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:

      My wife and I are militant nonsmokers but as world travelers
      one of the things we've discovered is that this quaint little
      concept of nonsmokers rights is mainly a peculiar American 
      affectation.

Most of Britain is fairly non-smoking; it's certainly a minority habit,
anyway, and is frowned upon by lots of people.  Smokeless areas are probably
more hard to come by than in the USA, but they're quite common.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Ireland
Date: 14 Oct 1992 01:01:56 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Ireland
============================================================
Ireland - Consular Information Sheet
 October 7, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy in Dublin is located at 42 
Elgin Road, Ballsbridge; telephone (353) (1) 688-777.

Country Description:  Ireland is a highly developed stable 
democracy with a modern economy.  Tourist facilities are widely 
available.

Entry Requirements:  Tourists are not required to obtain visas for 
stays under 90 days, but may be asked to show onward/return tickets. 
 For further information concerning entry requirements for Ireland, 
travelers can contact the Embassy of Ireland at 2234 Massachusetts 
Avenue N.W., Washington DC 20008, tel (202) 462-3939, or the nearest 
Consulate General in San Francisco, Chicago, Boston, or New York.

Medical Facilities:  Medical facilities are available.  U.S. 
medical insurance is not always valid outside the United States.  
Travelers have found that in some cases, supplemental medical 
insurance with specific overseas coverage has proved to be useful.  
Further information on health matters can be obtained from the 
Centers for Disease Control's international travelers hotline on 
(404) 332-4559. 

Crime Information:  Ireland has a low crime rate.  However, in 
larger towns and cities, Americans and other foreign tourists have 
been victimized by pickpockets and purse snatchers.  Theft of 
property left in rental cars and from hotel rooms does occur.  U.S. 
citizens can refer to the Department of State's pamphlet, "A Safe 
Trip Abroad" for ways to promote a more trouble-free voyage.  The 
pamphlet is available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. 
Government Printing Office, Washington DC 20402.

Terrorist Activities:  There is a history of terrorist violence 
related to the political situation in Northern Ireland, a part of 
the United Kingdom.  U.S. citizens are not the target of this 
violence.  Acts of violence can spill over into the Republic, mainly 
along the border with Northern Ireland.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use, or dealing in 
illegal drugs are strict, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.

Registration:  Americans who register in the Consular Section of 
the U.S. Embassy can obtain updated information on travel and 
security within the area.

 No. 92-026


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jewell@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Larry Jewell)
Subject: Re: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Latin America
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:14:52 GMT

In article <ldc98bINNn9s@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:

>I was just pointing out that the U.S. State Department's 
>travel advisory is presumptuous and uninformed.

 Said piece of information being a shock to the whole planet :-).

-- 
>Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com

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From: Caroline.Matthews@p14.f1.n7104.z5.fidonet.org (Caroline Matthews)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Greece
Date: 11 Oct 92 09:05:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: catpe.2588.2AD9C030
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7104/1.14 - The Catalyst BBS 1, Port Elizabeth


On 10 Oct 15:54, someone  muttered something about :

 <> Hi, I am going next week to Greece (Rhodas) and I plan sailing
 <> along the Greek coast. Does somebody can recommend me some places
 <> to visit? and weather reccomendations? Thank you.

Great island ! 

Some tips: Avoid Rhodes New Town - it is a collection of hotels and 
souvenir shops. The old town has a nice market and pretty harbour.
Also on the island of Rhodos, you should visit Lindos. Very pretty 
little village with a good bay for anchorage if you are sailing.

As far as sailing goes, we were there in early summer, and the wind
tended to come up to about 20-25knots each afternoon - nothing in the
morning. There are plenty of little harbours - most boats just did
day trips from one to the next.

If you are planning to scuba-dive you will be disappointed on 2 points -
first it is illegal to dive without a Greek guide, in case we steal their
marine antiques! Secondly, altho the water is crystal clear, there is 
almost nothing living in it. Apparantly the clear water is due to a lack 
of plankton, therefore a lack of everything else. Still, it is wonderful
to sail in such clear water.

Watch out for spiny urchins in the water - the only thing that seems to
prosper in the water there! They are poisonous and very painful if you
step on one - most people swim with shoes on. Take some old sport shoes
or something similar.

Nearby island of Symi is pretty and there is a huge monastry on it. Turkey
is a stone's throw from there, but beware of strict regulations about
going to Turkey from Greece and back. Depending on the political climate, 
they relax or tighten the rules, and can get silly sometimes!

Have a great trip - are you chartering? Let us know all about it when 
you return.

Cheers!
CAROLINE 
  



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From: mudge@hfrd.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: US Summer Camp info wanted
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:33:41 GMT
Organization: High Frequency Radar Division - Defence Science and Technology Organisation

I'm planning a trip to the U.S. in about June next year am almost certain I
will apply to act as a Camp Supervisor at a summer camp for the kiddies. Over
here in Australia, there are two companies which organise such placements: Camp
America, and Camp Counsellors USA.

I have brochures for both, and there are only minor differences, but I am
wondering if anyone out there can give me any information on:
1) either of the two above-named organisations, or if either one is better than
the other.
2) camp life in general, from a supervisor's point of view.

I can't apply to both, as each require a deposit which is not refunded if you
withdraw from the program.

David Mudge
mudge@hfrd.dsto.gov.au
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Thursday, 15 Oct 1992 08:53:59 CET
From: <RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - United Kingdom (was Re: y)
 <CC.92Oct14173344@arran.dcs.ed.ac.uk> <1992Oct14.195653.23885@colorado.edu>
 <1bi1pgINNfd9@fido.asd.sgi.com>

Having watched Sky News this a.m., and seen the general reaction to
the U.K. Government's decision to close most of the (coal) mines, I
wouldn't be a bit surprised if the U.K. suddenly becomes a lot less
stable during the next week or so.....Last one out turn off the lights ?
RaF