HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Beasties and Krush Groove
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:22:35 GMT
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

cscon105@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
|I can't believe nobody mentioned that the Beasties "She's On It"
|can be found on the soundtrack to Krush Groove.
Yeah, a cut down version. The 4th verse gets faded...

|Plus in the film Krush Groove the Beasties actually perform 
|She's On It.
Well, the first 30 seconds of it...

|If you haven't seen the movie yet...Do it!!!!
Don't don't do it.

|Beasties, Run DMC, Sheila E, Fat Boys, LL Cool J, and Kurtis Blow are
|all in it!!!!!!!!!
It's like ``Tougher than Leather'' but without the guns...

Run falls for Sheila E. Run and Rush have family/money/record-deal problems.
The Fat Boys are fat. There is a `rap talent contest'. It all ends happily.

Prince's films look masterful in comparison...

Tx. [truly awful]
--
-- Tim [O'Donoghue] <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <...!uunet!uknet!canon!tim>
From: jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Wordz 2 Tha Wyze
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:58:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.192417.16789@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, greg@cs.washington.edu (Greg Barnes) writes:
> In article <ISBELL.92Apr7142757@pop-tarts.ai.mit.edu> isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
>>By the way, how long has alt.rap been around?  I was here from post #1,
>>but I forget our age.  Anyway, we've done a good job by and large.  I
>>think we deserve self-patting super props for keeping a mostly dope+
>>group.  Dap, dap, dap.  <insert prop here>
> 
> Checking my limited article collection, the 95th article on our site 
> (which, not coincidentally, was written by yours truly) was posted on 
> March 23rd, 1991.  The group is probably no more than a week older than that 
> (and most of that initial week was spent weeding out the `Rap isn't music' 
> twits).
>^^^^^^
   |________________WAIT A MINUTE!!!!!  WHO SAID RAP AIN'T MUSIC?!?!?!?!?!?!??

		WHY I'LL MOYDAH `EM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uuuuhhhh, sorry.


==Phyz

> So, anyway, a belated happy anniversary to us!  Over one year of mostly
> dope+.
> 
> Hey, it rhymes.
> 
> 				Greg Barnes
> 				greg@cs.washington.edu
From: tim@crash.canon.co.uk
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Top Ten
Summary: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:57:55 GMT
Reply-To: not me, no sireee!
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

jp5c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Justin Robert Palmeiro) writes:
|Well, It's definitely not an easy decision but I'll give it a try
:

Okay, here's the perl source for my top10 program:

#!/usr/local/bin/perl
@ReallyGoodRecords = <>;
srand;
while ($#ReallyGoodRecords > $[ - 1) {
	$PickAHit = rand $#ReallyGoodRecords;
	printf("%d:\t%s",++$rating,$ReallyGoodRecords[$PickAHit]);
	splice(@ReallyGoodRecords,$PickAHit,1);
}

And here's an example usage:

225-tim@crash:usr/tim>top10<<EOF
P.E.                        Apocalypse '91....
Ice T                       Power
Eric B and Rakim            Let The Rythm Hit 'em
Big Daddy Kane              Long Live The Kane
Eric B and Rakim            Follow the Leader
Eazy-E                      Boyz in the Hood
Big Daddy Kane              It's a Big Daddy Thing
P.E.                        Fear of a Black Planet
Ice Cube                    Death Certificate
NWA                         Straight Out Of Compton  
EOF
1:      P.E.                        Fear of a Black Planet
2:      Eric B and Rakim            Let The Rythm Hit 'em
3:      Eric B and Rakim            Follow the Leader
4:      P.E.                        Apocalypse '91....
5:      Eazy-E                      Boyz in the Hood
6:      Ice Cube                    Death Certificate
7:      Big Daddy Kane              It's a Big Daddy Thing
8:      Ice T                       Power
9:      Big Daddy Kane              Long Live The Kane
10:     NWA                         Straight Out Of Compton
228-tim@crash:usr/tim>

Artificial Intelligence or what: PE #1!

Tx. [that's better]
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-- Tim [O'Donoghue] <tim@crash.canon.co.uk> <...!uunet!uknet!canon!tim>
From: U14864@uicvm.uic.edu (Tyrone Ellison)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Rap vs. Hip Hop
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:57:44 GMT
 <12059.29e97004@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

Nuff props to DJ PHYZ... I totally agree with him on what he said concerning
rap vs. Hip Hop... the term "rap" has lost its original meaning, and now, any
buffoon who can make two words rhyme is considered a "rapper"... Hip hop, on
the other hand, is more definitive... when someone says they're into Hip hop,
they are saying that they are into more than "...the music hits me so hard/
makes me say oh my god..."  The term Hip Hop implies a direct tie to the evolu-
tion of the music and culture, from backspinning and graffiti to East Coast
Stomping to a LONS jam... I, for one, can't stand when the mainstream (mis)uses
hip hop and saturates it with played-out terms (that McD commercial Phyz men-
tioned comes to mind)... Another thing that pisses me off (or amuses me, depen-
ding on my mood) is when so-called "innovative fashion designers" flood the mar
ket with "street-accented rap gear", mostly fat gold chains and hats that Run
DMC don't even wear anymore... Fortunately, Hip Hop will always remain 10 steps
ahead of the mainstream, and those who use "rap" to sell fajitas and toys will
always be wondering "...I thought these people LIKED Kurtis Blow..."
Peace Out, from the Minister of Rage, Gifted Underworld Executioner...
                                             "...Hardcore will NEVER DIE!!!!"
                                              Public Enemy, Apocalypse 91 intro
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: chattha@fraser.sfu.ca (Guri Chattha)
Subject: rap samples
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:59:04 GMT


	Wut Up,

		Is anybody gonna post rap samples here or in
	alt.binaries.sounds.misc?  If not, please e-mail 'em
	to me.
		- thanX -
				- I'm Audi -

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From: djh4535@rigel.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Chi Ali and the next generation
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:28:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr9.024752.28335@acsu.buffalo.edu>, simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon) writes...
> 
>	Don't diss Chi Ali, ABC, and Kriss Kross so hard - remember that most
>of us are gettin' older and styles are changin'! Cool J started out rappin'
>about ladies (including one that was old enuff to be his mother) at 16. Chi
>Ali's video was dope - he's just a kid, but then so were we!

cool j stared out weak to (and still is) but anyway. i think just can't let
the wack,weak feeble (what ever word you like) rhymes and rhymers just get
off. we must makes sure that the next time the come correct. So we must
critisize with malice towards all. 
			d.j. loki seth I
" i don't accept weakness because it's black
 and i don't accept becuase its rap
 so i'll let them feel the lash of my tongue
 so beware all weak people old and young"
From: agathon@athena.mit.edu (Garry Moorer)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Nice & Smooth
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:31:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Nice and Smooth are dope.  Period.
"Nice and Smooth" is dope.  Period
"Hip Hop Junkies" is dope.  Period.

On the Chuck Wagon.  PaZ!

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*=Aquitaine=*			|      'cause I'd push the fuckin button and
agathon@athena.mit.edu  	|      get it over with."  Bushwick Bill '91
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From: cshelly@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Nice&Smooth
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:30:21 GMT
Organization: Clark University

Ah- yeah New York in the fucking house!
From: rodri-r@acsu.buffalo.edu (Rene L. Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: The Fabulous Chi-Ali
Summary: His brain is not ready.
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:40:44 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <ISBELL.92Apr4153813@pop-tarts.ai.mit.edu> isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
>Well, I heard Chi Ali's first single (well, I saw it as well).
>
>My view?  No, no, no.
>
>He should've done it, listened to it, then changed his mind.
>
	
	Your view is totally correct.  This weekend Chi Ali rapped on 
Teen-Summit and sounded WEAK as all hell.  He should of stayed home.  I thought
the track sounded childish already, but his lack of showmanship and his childishvoice made me mack up my mind right then and there.  He is right though.  Age
ain't nothin' but a #, and he sho nuf ain't ready.

RLR
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: cleo@cheshire.oxy.edu (Cleopatra)
Subject: Re: WHITE MEN CAN'T RAP
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA.  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:07:54 GMT



This letter was already e-mailed to me so why are you posting it..? Looks like
it's not me that you're addressing this to...looks like you're just trying to
gain acceptance from the people on this net. You know what,though,I don't hear
the sounds of anyone laughing at me,because as long as I have something to say
you can damn well bet it will be said and I don't care who's kill file I'm in.

                                                -Cleopatra
-- 
"To be or not to be..."               "Life's like a dick...when it gets hard...          -Hamlet                         Fuck It!!"
"Today is a good day to die"                             -me
         -Kiefer Sutherland (Flatliners)
From: cshelly@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: White Men Can't Rap
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:38:17 GMT
Organization: Clark University

I'm refering to your title "White Men Can't Rap," whats up with 3rd Bass.
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: clg1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Christopher L Gray)
Subject: Re: Wordz 2 Tha Wyze
Organization: The Deephouse Project
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:57:06 GMT

yes!!!!!

>Rule #1:  Hit returns before the 80th column so that we can *read* the
>bloody post.  I swear I find nothing more irritating.

[etc. etc.]

Maybe this info should be posted frequently Charles.

>Don't just adopt opinions |  \/  | I am Charles Isbell, Homeboy from hell,
>      develop them.       |  /\  | living axiom and anonymous absolute ruler
>                           ------  of the cosmos.  


-- 
BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS
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Mr. Christopher L. Gray   L  "If the truth hurts, 
clg1@ra.MsState.edu       *   then, you'll be in pain!"           
Mississippi State U.      A    --- Sista Souljah, PE 
                          K
BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS*BLAKNESS
From: devaughn@skat.usc.edu (Clarence A. De Vaughn)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Clearly, one of our better flame wars
Date: 7 Apr 1992 14:32:06 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

>Charles L Isbell writes:
>
>You guys are a trip.  I go away for a week to work on my thesis and
>all I get when I come back is this silly flame war.  On the other
>hand, it's a whole lot better than the recurrinf "rap-ain't-music"
>flame fest or the "Vanilla-Wafer-sucks" flame war we had last year.

I'm down with Charles, but I do have two things to point out.
Rap is music & Vanilla Wafer does sucks. Any questions?

BTW, where's the review on BAZERK?

-Cad


-- 
Cad DeVaughn
Microcomputer Consultant
USC
devaughn@skat.usc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: cshelly@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Compton's Most Wanted
Organization: Clark University
Date: 12 APR 92 19:43:06 GMT

All west coast rappers ain't shit!
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: agoyo1@yog-soggoth.MIT.EDU (acee agoyo)
Subject: Re: Beastie boys Live
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:23:01 GMT

The Doug E. Fresh song is called "The Show."  It has the inspector gadget
theme in it.  It's on the b-side of "La Di Da di" which came out about 1985.
You might be able to find it in a used record store, but be warned that they
are out to rip you off and may charge you $6 or $7 for it.  I saw a copy of
"Rapper's Delight" for $10 at one store!  Same goes for anything by Grandmaster
Flash, like "White Lines."


"The beat may drop but not like all the others"
acee agoyo
agoyo1, once again back is the incredible.
From: mmoore@ux.acs.umn.edu ("None of ya Bizness")
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Alt.rap history (was: Re: Wordz 2 Tha Wyze)
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:57:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux.1992Apr7.225744.1439
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <ISBELL.92Apr7175759@pop-tarts.ai.mit.edu> isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
$mmoore@ux.acs.umn.edu ("None of ya Bizness") writes:
$|isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
$|$By the way, how long has alt.rap been around?  I was here from post #1,
$|$but I forget our age.
$|Well I wasn't around from post #1, but my first post was #502 and that was 
$|in late 1990.
$
$Happy birthday to us, then, but surely you mean early 1991...  Let's
$see, I did my first review some three-four weeks after we started and
$that was in March so.... carry the two....

Ooooooooops!  My bag...I thought it was late 1990 but see how my memory 
fades...ah well, we been here a year, so like my man MC Eiht from CMW says:

	"Brothas listen up close grab ya forties let's make a toast..."

Rice Chex.

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Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: cshelly@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Slick Rick
Organization: Clark University
Date: 12 APR 92 19:48:18 GMT

Yeah I know what's up.  The It's A Boy Remix is slammin.
From: pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Lyrics: DEL (pissin on your steps)
Date: 1 Apr 92 20:32:39 GMT

[Now here's a rap with positive lyrics]
[Naw, it ain't all correct, so if you know betta - set it right!]

Pissin on your steps (Del, Ice Cube, Boogiemen)

Oh-hu, pissing on your steps, wu-wu wu wu wu

It's d-e-l, tha funkee homosapien, to the rescue
I'm so low, and do a bow low, and left too
Dance is back on Soul Train, 
an ya know Soul Train giva fat dance thang
Now whatcha gonna do with a boy with no talent
use a step one and step two, to keep the show valid
Let's have a vote an try to register a ballot
an realize a hamma's justa mallet
Toss him lika salid 
cause he ain't trully gifted, 
now the parties lifted,
by the crews hieroglyphic
Golly wolly, not another Elvis and Priscilla
Ice is cool, but I can't stand vanilla
because he takes a style and try to mock it
Ain't nothin personal-gee, but I'm kinda into chocolate
It's all about the black, an it's like that
an I'm so laid back, cause I smoke the fat facts
Plus I'm almost through and done with the homeboy
draw the bow and shake one shake
Now I keep your concept, think you gotta a rep?
Dance all day, while I'm pissin on your step

Heal dog, heal dog, I don't think so

No Del 
is not a mean fellow
just because I wanna turn your dance shoes yellow
See I'm rather mellow 
some call it lazy
being myself, an I ain't with the daisies
Cause I'm no god-damned flower
And every single dancer, as a comfort, receives a golden shower
I'm here to insulta, hip-hop charga volta
You think you-all, that we're really your's, 
shorta that a midget, I don't fidget
with the bow-like
[fuckin dance]
Because that what ma pals say
An brothers, don't shake your rumps
wearin biker shorts is like choking on your nuts
Because you might end up with a cramp or a hernia
and that's much worse that a fly girl burnin ya
Plus it ain't fly-ya, for you to have you behind
plastered all out like a feline
See I'm givin you advice, make you think twice
cause dance moves don't last half any-wise
So change the concept -
aquire some skills on the mic, while I'm pissin on your step

I gotta take a leak o the week
Who do you think you are?
pissin on your steps, wu-wu wu wu wu
From: jwilson@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Rap vs. Hip Hop
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:27:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.234427.27709@athena.mit.edu>, crafts@athena.mit.edu writes:
> On a recent late night talk show Tupac Shakur said the following when asked:
> 
> "What is the difference between rap and Hip Hop?"
> 
> Answer:"...Rap is Young MC...hip hop is A Tribe Called Quest...
>         Rap is the just the basics, a beat and lyrics where hip hop
>         is more of a style... more complex... deeper...often political..."
> 
> Is there a difference in the terms? Or is hip hop different from rap?
> 
> crafts@athena.mit.edu
>  


****************
Speak on this, .net dawgs, I think this is a very important issue.  I hate the
term "rap", and the careful observer (who'd wanna do that?) will see that I
never use it.  Hip-hop is much deeper, almost a way of life.  You don't
necessarily have to dress B-Boy, or talk the language, but livin' the life and
lovin' the music ingrains a certain amount of the lingo and the philosophy in
all of us.  Hip-hop doesn't have to be political to be more than rap.  Does
anyone unnestand where I'm comin' from?  It's a birds-of-the-feather thing I
think.  This is why I vehemently scathed the posers about the music and the
lingo, those comments cut to the bone.  Rap isn't even beat and lyrics anymore. 
How many of you have heard radios sayin', "WE don't play 12 & under rap
music.." or that Mikky D's commercial that starts off dissin' "rap"?  This shit
pisses me OFF!!  Can I get some eyewitness on this?  Am I off or what?  I'm
virtual until later, 5001.

==Phyz
From: d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Paris is out!
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:31:29 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

Hello world,
Paris album was released last week but It was out of stock
when I finally got to the record store this Monday.
But today I will go buy it!
Anyone discussed 'Prince Akeem' on the .net?
Well he has a hell of a dope song out called 'Time to come correct'
              ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
feat. Chuck D. Chuck also wrote some of the lyrics.
If it would have been released as a Public Enemy track it would have
been the best they made in a LONG while!
The LP is called 'Comin down like Babylon', I don't know what to
think about it yet.
I would imagine that my girlfriend would find the Prince himself uttery ugly.

Check it out! 

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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~           D  D  O  O  L      Gothenburg, Sweden        
d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se     D  D  O  O  L
   =(:-)]     "mess with   DDD    OO   LLLL   and die like a fool"  DRUMOLOGIC.
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From: gumby@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Andrew Goodwin)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:31:03 GMT
Subject: Re: Top Ten
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NSG-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: alt.rap



Word Y'all...here's my English Pounds worth.....!

 10. Music Man - Master Ace
 9. The Bomb - Ice Cube
 8. Who's Gonna Take the Weight - Gang Starr
 7. Enjoy Yourself - Chubb Rock
 6. Ghetto Bastard - Naughty By Nature (the jam was the shit!)
 5. As We Go - Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince
 4. My Mind is Playing Tricks on Me - Geto Boys
 3. Mama Said Knock you Out - LL Cool J
 2. Fight the Power - P.E
 1. RAW - Big Daddy Kane (in the dayz of way back)

 Peace Out.
 Gumby.
 
 oops!:    x
  
Xref: sparky alt.rap:1971 alt.music.alternative:2929 rec.music.industrial:5079
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Beastie Boys pull a Nirvana on their Pass the Mic CD-single
Newsgroups: alt.rap,alt.music.alternative,rec.music.industrial
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:30:34 GMT

In article <167C39C66.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
>In article <29E26D32.3733@ics.uci.edu>
>bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>
>Me first: around here we call it pulling a Front 242 not a Nirvana.

    I agree. That's true. I apologize. But this WAS crossposted, so I had
     to use "Nirvana" as a GENERAL example.  But not too many others would
       know F242 did it first.

>
>>     WelL, our B-boys pulled another little CD trick on the Pass the Mic
>>    CD-single.
>[...]
>>   BTW, this single is a MUST.  Track #3 and #5 are just fuck-around tracks.
>>    The LAST TRACK is listed as 3:37 or something like that on the back cover
>>   but the CD lists it as 5:37 (or something like that)
>>
>>   There are two minutes of silence with the LAST 2 seconds saying
>>   "INSANE.....  HUH?.....  STUPID...." which sounds like a movie sample.

>How could I live without that?

    OK. The sarcasm here is a bit due after all.

>>
>>    They also include their 10 second "bootleg" McDonald's punk song from their
>>     WAY early days on the last few seconds of Track #1.
>
>Pre-Cookie Puss? They must've been in grade school.

     Try kingergarten.

>>
>>    The Beasties are re-recognizing their punk roots.  Their sound is a lot
>>   NOISIER and not as smooth-sounding as _Paul's_Boutique_.  Those who like
>>   Meat Beat Manifesto or Consolidated or DHOH or the likes will like this
>>   single A LOT!!!!!!
>>
>>                                                              K!z!K
>>
>>    YES, This WAS CROSSPOSTED to REC.MUSIC.INDUSTRIAL.....
>>  (For those of you who don't know, a small number of r.m.industrial
>> subscribers are COMPLETE ANAL FUCKS when it comes to posted bands who DON'T
>
>That's quite true. Not me though.

     Thank God you're not one of ...... THEM!

>
>> HAPPEN to be friends with Al Jourgensen or Genesis P-Orridge)
>
>Jourgensen? Didn't he do that wimpy _With Sympathy_ album?
>What a sellout!

       Yeah, but forgive him, because "All Day" and "Halloween" are as
         punk then as if I heard them today!   (Naught!)
>
>>   SO WHAT????   Listen to the track and reason WHY I CROSSPOSTED!
>
>Send a tape.

   Hmmmmm. sending a tape to an ENTIRE Bulletin board........
      ANYONE in Netland install that Internet Soundmaster yet?

>>                                                      K!z!K
>
>--Eric

     Witty reply I must say.                            K!z!K

Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: agoyo1@athena.mit.edu (Acee Agoyo)
Subject: Re: PE  STUFF
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:28:11 GMT

>>Eric Thomas Zeszotarski
>David J. Warner
>>I find the beats ( with the exceptions of Radio consultant, Can't truss
>>it, and a few others )  so complex that they become a distraction to the
>>lyrics or something. I know they'll never equal "Nation" ( which KRS ONE
>>says is 'wack' on his fabulous triple- lead album " Ghetto music: the
>>blueprint of hip hop " )  but they can come a lot closer than this!

>KRS-One dissed PE like that???? When???? On which track did he diss 'em???? I
>have all of BDP's stuff, and KRS-One always gives props to PE. When did this
>happen?

It never happened.  If you listen to "Why is That?" Kris says:

	It takes a nation of millions to hold us people back
	Which is wack, but we can correct that
	. . .

Kris never said the album was wack.  Listen to the song and the quote again.
David J. Warner is right:  Kris never has disses PE and never will.

Acee Agoyo
agoyo1, once again back is the incredible