From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Reggie White ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:15:42 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan25.184704.7331@cbis.ece.drexel.edu> andres@minerva.ece.drexel.edu (Andres Lebaudy) writes:
>
>The issue wasn't wether or not randall should be traded.  My point, which
>you've conveniently failed to include, was that Seattle would be crazy to
>make the trade you suggested.  While were on the "should randall be traded
>issue", IMHO this is the best time for the eagles to do so.  IMHO, randall's
>value will continue to decrease and they would get the most for him now.
>It has nothing to do with putting blame on the QB, but with "plugging
>the other holes" as you say.

Well, I would think that randall for cortez and an eagle conditional pick
would be possible, UNLESS seattle think that drew bledsoe will mature into
one of the NFL leadng QB's.

If your whole argument is that they should trade randall since they would 
get the most of it now, I would say Yes and No.
Yes, because as we have seen all season, that rich kotite and randall were
never on the same page. It is evident that kotite likes a 'stand in the
pocket' kind of a QB. Randall is anything but that. If kotite doesn't change
his philosophy to use randall's talent , I agree we should trade him.

No, because he is a tremendous offensive weapon if you do the things 
he is good at. It has always been known that if you have a talent like randall
in your team, your offensive philosophy should make use of his talents.
Look at what happenned in the vikings game at home with him running and the
bootlegs. At the same time, one could argue that this will not work always,
and that is what a coach is for to come up with plays that work against
those kind of teams.

>While numbers don't necessarily tell the whole story, this statistic
>serves my point just as well.  The Philadelphia media crowned him as
>one of the top 2 or 3 QB's in the league.  Judging by passer ratings,
>he's overrated.

You are mistaken. Well, if you say that the philadelphia media was involved
in getting him on the cover of Sports Illustrated then I would agree!!
He had over 70% pass completions in the first 4 games of the season. He was
looking very confident and composed during that time. If you had asked me
then whether he was among the top 2 or 3 Qb's in the league the answer would 
have been YES!!

>His lone playoff win only proves one thing:  B. Hebert is a bigger choker.

Well, you could put the same kind of argument with Dan 'Future Hall of
Famer' Marino in their game with the Bills.

>
>I'm not talking about the 5-15 yard passes to your TE.  I'm referring to
>the 20-25 yard variety to your WRs.

well, these plays are called by the coach rich kotite. Same argument here,
they are not on the same page yet.

>I admit I didn't see the C. Williams TD.  How long was the *actual* pass?

It was about 20 yards and williams ran it for another 9-10 for the TD.

>Anyway, what does one pass in 18 games prove?  Why do you think the
>offensive game plan is not tailored around throwing in the middle?

>Do you think Barnett and Williams are scared?  I don't think so.  While
>I don't have great respect for Kotite, there's a reason why the team
>doesn't throw over the middle.  Kotite doesn't have confidence in Randall
>to do so.  It's alot harder to throw interceptions on sideline patterns.

well, for a team to go anywhere the coach has to have confidence in his QB.
Randall has not made mistakes throwing down the middle , so why not give
him a chance. If the coach doesn't call the plays then why blame randall.
andreas, if you ask me to pick one out of rich kotite or randall cunningham
I would pick randall just for the simple reason that you can do innovative 
things with randall, but kotite oh tell me about him. I cannot recall
him calling even one trick play that worked during the entire season.
And, besides, randall is so fun to watch , that is what makes the game of
football exciting.

>Perhaps he didn't publicly cry, but he did everything short of it.  Did you 
>hear him say that if he ever got benched again he would leave Philadelphia?

I meant he did not fight like the atlanta QB did with their coach.
Well, what else can you expect a QB to say when the coach doesn't have 
confidence in him.

>So the more athletic talent a player has the more he is prone to fumbling?

Yes, in the sense that he goes more into the open field than the pocket 
QB's. 
>
>So because he has running ability it's ok for him to "hold the ball
>like a loaf of bread"?  You're just strengthening my position here.

I have never said that It is OK for him to hold the football like a loaf
of bread. That is the price you pay. I dont like the way he runs with the ball
if that is what you were getting at. Agreed. 

A QB cannot perform well unless he has confidence in himself. And benching
him doesn't improve his confidence. Well, I also think that kotite had no
choice at that time other than doing what he did. I agree that he is 
inconsistent.

>I said *more than half* of his pro football days behind him.
>Why did you conveniently omit that part?

Well I thought it was pretty obvious that 5 years means *more than half" of
his pro football days!!

>... bounce-passing, it's-only-Green-Bay, Whitney-Houston-less,
>back-stabbing, hated-by-own-offensive-line,
>rather-groom-my-hair-than-study-the-playbook ...

Well, I will restrain from making my point about these apologies-given,jagear(?)-engaged, ryan-dislike, trash-talking, viking-dont-need-play-book statements.


>Enjoy.  By the way, I think he's a good QB. I just don't like the guy.
>Now explain this to me:  If you think so highly of the guy why did
>you suggest that the eagles trade him?

That is because, no one seems to understand that kotite's offensive philosophy
doesn't seem to fit into randall's talents (same argument as above)
well i guess we have to start a "kotite must go" campaign.

>
>Andres

-Rajeev
A Scrambling Eagle Fan
Kotite Must Go

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