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From: muellerm@ira.uka.de (Martin Mueller Betr. Haehnle)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Gruess Gott?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 14:24:06 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: uka
NNTP-Posting-Host: i12s1.ira.uka.de

>Usual spelling: 'Moin'.
>Used almost exclusively in Northern Germany or by people from there,
>mostly doubled: 'Moin, moin'.
>That *may* derive from 'Guten Morgen' but that is NOT the meaning!
>'Moin' is considered an appropriate greeting no matter what time of
>day it is.

The best explanation for use and spelling of 'moin' that came up to
me is by the close relationship between "Plattdeutsch" (the German
spoken in Northern Germany) and Dutch: The Dutch know a word
"mooi" which means just "good" or "comfortable". My understanding
of the greeting 'moin' thus is that it just abbreviates
"Good Morning/Day/Evening" whatever time of the day it might be.

I think this is a convincing piece of ethymology, but I am not
exactly sure. If someone knows better I'd be interested in being
corrected.

Martin 
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Martin Mueller                              muellerm.ira.uka.de
From: daniel@kenext.msk.su (Finogenov Daniel Victorovich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: WANTED: GERMAN/DEUTSCHE MARKS in Freiburg, I offer roubles. QUICKLY!!!
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:17:22 GMT
Reply-To: daniel@kenext.msk.su
Distribution: eunet
Organization: KENEXT, Ltd

daniel@kenext.msk.su
daniel%kenext.msk.su@relay.ussr.eu.net
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,sci.lang
From: oli@math.rwth-aachen.de (Oliver Bonten)
Subject: Re: Germanic Dialtects (was: Welche Sprache benutzen)
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 27 Jul 92 11:17:42 GMT

simon@fsinfo.cs.uni-sb.de (Julia Simon) writes:

>I didn't know it is also spoken in Schleswig-Holstein; I know a Dutchman who
>was raised bilingual Dutch/Frisian, so it must be spoken somewhere in the
>Netherlands too. Unfortunately I don't know what part of the Netherlands he
>comes from.

Das wird Westfriesland/Groningen gewesen sein...
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: wolf@cowan.edu.au (W.GRUTER)
Subject: mahlzeit
Keywords: prost
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:06:51 GMT


"Prost Mahlzeit"  expressed with a negativ intonation means
something like  ooh GOD (negative intonation again) which brings us
to "GRUESS GOTT ,wenn du ihn siehst (no intonation) does that cheer us up
or what? 
              bis die tage

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: wieslaw@platinum.iss.nus.sg (wieslaw nowinski)
Subject: Info about PARCELLA workshop wanted
Originator: wieslaw@platinum
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:11:12 GMT

I am looking for the info about the PARCELLA (International Workshop on
Parallel Processing by Cellular Automata & Arrays) - program, date, or
email/fax of the organizers. The workshop is usually held in September
in Berlin. If anybody out there knows, could you drop me a line.
Thanks in advance for any pointers.

Wieslaw L. Nowinski
National University of Singapore
e-mail: wieslaw@iss.nus.sg
fax: (65) 778-2571
From: marco@CompSci.Bristol.AC.UK (M. Lawrenz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Bezaubernde Jeannie etc.
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:27:38 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Bristol, UK.

carl.camurca@wugate.wustl.edu!travel (Carl Camurca) writes:
CC>  ML>: Nur, um schlau zu sein (erinnert sich *ein Einziger* an Susanne
CC>  ML>: Klickerklacker aus der Sesamstrasse?):
CC>  
CC>  ML>Hurra, endlich einer der sich auch an die guten alten Folgen 1-500
CC>  erinnert
CC>  ML>die mich als 3 - 10 jaehriger so entzueckten.
CC>  
CC>  ML>Wie stehts mit `Stanley Beamish' dem `Mann der die Pille nahm' (Sendejahr ca
CC>  ML>1969) ???
CC>  
CC>  Leider kann ich damit gar nicht dienen, da war ich vier. Ich kann mich
CC>  nur ganz schwach an einige Folgen Bezaubernde Jeannie erinnern. Das
CC>  durften wir aber nie sehen, wir waren zu klein... :(

Das war doch eine der ersten Serien mit dem Unhold aus 'Dallas' J.R.Ewing ???
... warte der Name des Schauspielers kommt gleich ... : Ja ich habs : 
Larry Hagman. Konnte ich nicht so leiden, jedenfalls nicht in Dallas. War 
Jeannie nicht die Fee die in einer Flasche gewohnt hat und immer mit unendlichem
Getoese und Rauchwolke erschienen ist ??? 
Da war ich auch erst 4 aber was bleibt einem nicht so im Kopf,wenn man es sieht.


CC>  IMHO, Sesamstrasse (die alte mehr als die neue), Die Sendung mit der
CC>  Maus und das Ost-Sandmaennchen sind die besten Kindersendungen, die je
CC>  ausgestrahlt wurden.

Vergiss nicht den Autistiker mit der Melone : PAN TAU. 

marco
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: sampath@jane.uh.edu (Ramanjan, Sampath)
Subject: Question on bundespost
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: bundespost, lease, data
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:51:00 GMT

I am conducting a research on transborder data flows in Europe. I want to 
know how the German telephone authorities (Bundespost  ..) charge for leased
communication lines. Is the charge based on: 
              - amount of data transferred
              - flat rate based on time of lease
              - amount of time the line is used
              - any other basis..
I would appreciate if you respond to my internet address
             sampath@jetson.uh.edu

SAM R
University of Houston
Houston, Texas
U.S.A 		 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: dbora@ils.nwu.edu (Donald Bora)
Subject: Freunde suchen...
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:42:22 GMT



Hallo alle!

	Vor drei Jahren, studierte ich in Erlangen (was damals West
Deutschland war) und ich suche nach jemanden der in Erlangen wohnt.  Der, den
ich suche, heisst Jaffer Mehjri(sp) und der kommt aus Tunis (aber wohnt
in Erlangen).  Wenn das ueberhaupt klar ist und jemand den Jaffer kennt,
bitte e-mail mir seine addresse.

Es gibt auch ein Freund von mir der in Tuebingen wohnt.  Der heisst Karl Wood.
Der is Amerikaner udn wir haben in highschool in den USA zusammen studiert.



				Ich danke euch fur ihr Geduld...

					tschuss


					Donald F. Bora

				<dbore@ils.nwu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: wtho@ciba-geigy.ch (Tom Hofmann)
Subject: Stanley Beamish (was Re: Susanne Klickerklacker)
Organization: Ciba-Geigy Ltd., Basel, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:48:38 GMT

rschoen@laborixsai.mathematik.uni-ulm.de (Reinhard Schoen) writes:
>Ein Chemiker, um die Natur zu verbiegen,
>wollte einmal den Schnupfen besiegen.
>Er quirlte und ruehrte und mixte,
>und erfand eine Pille, doch eine verflixte,
>denn ein Schaefchen, das diese zufaellig schluckte
>sich kurz darauf als Rakete entpuppte.
>
> ...
>
>er konnte wie ein Adler fliegen
>und jeden Boesewicht besiegen,
>und seine grosse Stunde kam,
>
>IMMER, WENN ER PILLEN NAHM.

Ein Chemiker, um die Natur zu verbiegen,
wollte schlichtweg den Schnupfen besiegen.
Er ruehrte, quirlte und mixte
und fand eine Pille, doch eine verflixte.
Denn ein Schaefchen, das sie zufaellig schluckte,
sich kurz darauf zum Loewen entpuppte,
der Schwerkraft es ein Schnippchen schlug
und startete zum Hoehenflug.
Kein Stahlgeruest hielt seiner Schlagkraft stand.
Das war der Tag, da man die Superpille fand.
Doch Menschen schien sie nicht vertraeglich,
die Pille machte sie eher kraenklich.
Mit vielen Computern, maechtig und klug,
suchte man einen, der sie vertrug.
Es dauerte viele Tage, bis man ihn endlich fand:
Tankwart Stanley Beamish war der einzige im Land.
Stanley, ein einfacher, zarter Gnom --
die Pille machte ihn zum Phantom.
Er konnte wie ein Adler fliegen
und jeden Boesewicht besiegen,
denn seine grosse Stunde kam,
immer, wenn er Pille nahm.

(Jetzt wundere ich mich nicht mehr, wenn alte Leute noch so
viele Einzelheiten aus ihrer Jugend wissen. :-)

---Tom
From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: mahlzeit...
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:25:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.psima01.711703510
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG

In <1992Jul18.025723.27369@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de> gnut@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de (Stefan Schleifer) writes:

>at manager-levels.

>The reply "Mahl Dir Dei Zeit selber" is just a tricky german word-game:
>Saying Mahlzeit means u wish him heaving a good meal or a good break or
>what ever, saying "Ma(h)l Dir Dei Zeit selber" means the same as "Paint
>your own time yourself". (Mahl and Mal sounds equal, but Malen is painting)

a matter of interpretation:
mahlen= grind -> grind your own time
not that either would make much sense, though ;-)

Michael


>>					Don...   


>I hope that i helped u

>Stefan

>gnut@lrs.e-technik.uni-erlangen.de
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: wolfi@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfgang Schwanke)
Subject: Re: Berlin (Kultur etc.)
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: fb20
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:37:06 GMT

guenther@vati.fmi.uni-passau.de (Thorsten Guenther) writes:


>Wat denn nu? Nicht-Berliner oder Nicht-Deutsche? Oder sind Nicht-Berliner
>automatisch auch Nicht-Deutsche?
>
>Mir faellt ein: - Liebling - Kreuzberg
>                - Kreuzberg
>                - Diepgen und Momper
>                - Scheibenwischer
>                - Die Aerzte (Hallo Claudia)
>                - Die Lassie-Singers (schon etwas spezieller)
>                - Alphaville
>                - Spliff (oder etwa nicht aus Berlin?)

Spliff schon, aber Alphaville????


>Weregoose

Wolfgang

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Subject: Re: Der Film "Zentropa"
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 00:30:57 GMT


In a previous article, oliver@cs.toronto.edu (Oliver Schulte) says:

>
>The movie was called "Europa", at least both in Germany and in North America.
>
>As for the Werewolves, I heard that they were more an organization attempting
>to help Nazis escape to places such as South America (not unlike the CIA :-) )
>but not the sort of active terror organization the movie makes them out to
>be. However, this is more or less hearsay.

In America it is called "Zentropa."  I guess that's because most
American see the word "Europa" and say, "What's that?  DUH!"

(-:

It's a multi-country European film right?  When did it come out in
Europe?
>
>Cheers,
>
>Oliver
>
>-- 
>Oliver Schulte                        g1oliver@cdf.toronto.edu     
>Department of Computer Science        or
>University of Toronto                 oliver@ai.toronto.edu
>

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: holder@gourde.positron.med.ge.com (Kacy Holder)
Subject: Goethe-Institut in Murnau
Organization: Computer People Unlimited, Milwaukee, WI
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:37:30


Does anyone know whether the Goethe-Institut in Murnau (50Km south of Muenchen)
has an e-mail address?  My husband is there for 2 months and I'd love a 
faster way of contacting him than snail-mail.  

Thanks in advance,

Kacy Holder

---------------------
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email: holderk@positron.med.ge.com

"These opinions are my own and not necessarily those of the client for whom 
 I am working or Computer People Unlimited, Inc."
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From: peterk@public.sub.org (Peter Kittel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: mahlzeit...
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:23:26 GMT
Organization: Public News & Mailserver, Commodore Germany PM UNIX, Frankfurt

nkraft@bkhouse.cts.com (Norman Kraft) writes:

>"Mahl  Dir  Die  Zeit  selber", to me translates literally as
>"Grind you  the  time  same",   or to reorder things a bit
>"Grind you the same time".

>Is there some point of vernacular usage that I'm missing here, that the
>use of Dir and selber, when used in this fashion, give "your own" or
>"your own ... yourself"?

Yes, it has to do with "do it on your own" or "for yourself", but not
at all with "same". The full sentence would be "Grind the time yourself".
Don't lay too much into the word "Dir" in this sentence. It gives a
sense of "do it yourself (and don't bother us)".

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Subject: Re: postal addresses in Germany ...
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 23:57:32 GMT


In a previous article, wombat@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Jeffrey Hess) says:

>I am trying to send some mail to Germany, but I'm a bit confused
>about the current ways of addressing them.
>
>It used to be that to send a letter to Frankfurt, you'd write
>	 D-6000 Frankfurt 40
>	 West Germany
>
>Then I thought after unification this had to change into
>	 W-6000 Frankfurt 40
>	 Germany
>
>(or O-[zipcode] for (ost) east germany).  Is this still true? 
>I know that all the ZIP codes at one point were supposed to be
>renumbered to include the new states, but has this happened 
>already?  And if not, when will it be done?

Ahh!  That's why soemone wanted me to add a W, but then agiain, I've
been sending mail to Goslar for quiite a while with just:

3380 Goslar

and not

W-3380 Goslar

And every letter is getting there.  Perhaps this is a headache for the
postoffice in Deutschland, but I'm inclined to believe it's like the 9
digit zip.

I mean, how many Goslars are there?  Then again, are the postoffices
unified?

>
>Thanks for the help.
>- Mike -
>
>
>
>

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: hammen@vpnet.chi.il.us (Robert Hammen)
Subject: Traveling to Germany: Advice Requested
Organization: VGC Corp. - Minneapolis
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:01:15 GMT

Guten Tag!

I'm going to Germany for the first time as a tourist on August 5. I'll be 
there for two weeks. I've been there twice before (once to Hamburg/Kiel,
and once to Dusseldorf and Munich), but strictly for business. I want 
want to see as much as possible (and as much as I can afford :-). To that
end, I'm requesting the advice of netters who've been there, or live there!

I'm flying into Frankfurt. I've six days of Eurail travel, and six days
of auto rental. I figure I'll knock around the Frankfurt area for a few
days, then travel to Hamburg/Kiel, then take a train to Munich and
southern Germany. I'll eventually loop back to Frankfurt for my departure.
I plan to stay out of the former East Germany, at least for this trip.

If anyone has suggestions on must-see things, places to go, things to do,
especially if they are interesting and "off the beaten track", I'd
really appreciate them!

Danke,

Robert
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: schulz@dirac.physics.sunysb.edu (Werner Schulz)
Subject: Re: Gruess Gott?
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Physics, SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:45:43 GMT
Summary: Moin, Moin 

Moin, Moin!

In article <1992Jul20.033159.3604@walter.cray.com> matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese) writes:
>In article <l6dmfuINNl5u@west.west.sun.com> markk@sagredo.West.Sun.COM (Mark Kampe) writes:
>> ...
>>
>"Mahlzeit" is not an exclusively Sueddeutscher greeting. It's very common
>up here im Norden. Another variation is "Meun" (not sure of the spelling)
                                          ^^^^
>which is short for "Guten Morgen". 

The right spelling is "Moin" and does NOT mean "Guten Morgen" 
but something like "wish you all the best" etc. and can be 
said at all times, even in the evenings.
Moin might be related to another plattdeutsch word, moi as in moi wicht
 = schoenes Maedchen. Ask a linguist about this.

>
>
>******************************************************************            *
>Matt Marchese	    The opinions expressed here are not those of my employer, *
>Cray Research  	    my wife, my church, or myself...But they are the opinions *
>DKRZ                of Elvis as revealved to me through the medium of my pet  *
>Hamburg, Germany    hamster, Lee Harvey Oswald...                             *
>*******************************************************************************
Hummel, Hummel , ... (Do you know the right answer to this?)

Werner
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser)
Subject: Re: Wehrpflichtige/Krieg
Reply-To: Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:28:55 GMT

In article <YDD5ZRF@hp832.informatik.hu-berlin.de>, 
dziadzka@informatik.hu-berlin.de (M.Dziadzka) writes:

|>In article <1269.178.uupcb@travel.uucp> 
|>carl.camurca@travel.uucp (Carl Camurca)  writes:
|>>Hi!
|>>
|>>Nur so eine kleine Anmerkung...
|>>In Artikel 12a des Grundgesetzes wird das Recht auf
|>>Kriegsdienstverweigerung garantiert. Es ist ein Grundrecht mit dem
|>>gleichen Wert wie das Recht auf Meinungsfreiheit, koeperliche
|>>Unversehrtheit etc.
|>                                                         
|>
|>Wenn ich mich recht erinnere, kann man nur den Kriegsdienst 
|>_mit_der_Waffe_ verweigern (weil man aus Gewissensgruenden nicht 
|>toeten will). Das heisst aber nicht, dass man im Kriegsfall nicht 
|>an der Front eingesetzt werden kann (Sanitaeter, ...)

Nicht ganz. 

1) Ein Sanitaeter, und auch der letzte Stubenhocker in Bad Neuenahrer 
   Bunker, ist ein Soldat, der das Recht und die Pflicht hat, die ihm
   Anvertrauten notfalls mit der Waffe die ihm zugewiesen wird, zu 
   verteidigen.

2) Art.87 GG ermoeglicht es aber, eine nicht-militaerische 
   Dienstverpflichtung denen gegenueber auszusprechen, die den Dienst 
   mit der Waffe, also den Felddienst verweigern. Dadrunter fallen
   z.B. Zivilschuetzer, THW-Verpflichtete und viele Rettungssanitaeter,
   gar nicht zu reden von den Zivis.

Carl hat also recht wenn er sagt, dasz die Verweigerung des Waffendienstes
ein unveraeuszerliches Grundrecht ist, und Du hast recht, wenn Du an andere
Moeglichkeiten der Dienstverpflichtung erinnerst. Letzteres ist aber kein
militaerischer Dienst. Aber, und das ist nicht so sehr bekannt, auch ein
ehemaliger Zivi kann im Notfall mobilisiert werden. Letzteres ist der Grund
den Puristen, i.e. Totalverweigerer, fuer ihre vollstaendige Ablehnung 
angeben.

|>Mirko Dziadzka 		        e-mail: try one of:

       Till Poser         Internet: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
-F35- ZEUS DESY/Freiburg  Bitnet:   POSER@DESYVAX
bldg.1b-235, Notkestr.85  Hepnet:   VXDESY::POSER (13313::Poser)
   D-2000 Hamburg 52      Tel.: -49-40-8998-2004
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: rayes@Snake.mcs.kent.edu (Sandra Rayes)
Subject: Re: Are you sure?..   Ya, more than you know.
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:45:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.052221.8077@chinet.chi.il.us> harlow@chinet.chi.il.us (Steven A Harlow) writes:
>Liebe Sandra,
>
>Ich bitte um Verzeihung.
>Yes, I snapped.  Something in me just let go.
>I had been (unsuccessfully) trying to follow that thread on Swedish
>and when it turned arabisch, I lost control, I went "balistic".
>
>But perhaps you can imagine my frustration (of a year previous)
>when all of the US was anxious to kick some Iragi (Arab?) butt.
>And I thought to myself "Why do we want to get into some
>pissing contest with some sandlot dictator?"
>
Yes, I can imagine...Imagine how *I* felt being an American married to
one of those butts...

>Letzen Sommer war ich auf Urlaub in Deutland.
>Ich habe meinem Onkel gefragt, "Bemerkst du, dass wir (die Amis)
>nicht in Yugoslavien gehen?".
>Er sagte mir "Ja, da gib's kein Oel."


Das stimmt.  Wir haben keine Kuwaitis befreit, aber Oelfelder.

> > Where where YOU with your cute, sarcastic, and I am sure amusing to
>cute, sarcastic   amusing?
>Unwittingly, you flatter me.
>
>Next time you are in your husband's homeland, ask him if he
>will let you drive the car.
>
I CAN drive in my husband's home country...serve in the army, too.
You confuse the entire Mid East with Saudi, I'm sure.

And Now, Back to Germany.... ;-)

Sandra.
From: schraudo@cs.ucsd.edu (Nici Schraudolph)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Der Film "Zentropa"
Date: 25 Jul 92 05:24:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.36119

silber@orfeo.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Silber) didn't like "Zentropa":

> [...]
> The droning narration by Max von Sydow was matched by the
> faltering and indifferent delivery of Eddie Constantine
> (the expatriate American actor known mainly as the one time
> husband of Edith Piaf; this film could more rightly be
> called 'Eddie Constantine's Last Film' ) Hanna Schygula
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> was typically uncompelling as the insidious 'heavy' in this
> mushy melange of incongruous ineffectual effects surrounding
> an idiotic caricature of a plot.

I believe the femme fatale was (forgot the first name) Sukova, not
Hanna Schygula.

Regarding the Zentropa/Europa confusion, either some posters who haven't
heard of Zentropa are mixing it up with "Europa Europa", or the film was
renamed here for fear that two movies with such similar titles and topic
in the same year would confuse American audiences.

-- 
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  Univ. of California, San Diego   |   Empty what's full.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: back to reality #2
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:56:11 GMT
Keywords: son

pebi@aem.umn.edu (Peter A. Bidian) writes:


>Ich lach mich tot, das 'kleine Bernchen' 6'8" ungefaehr 2.03m is unterwegs
>und die Eltern machen sich sorgen.

Ja, das ist even so mit Eltern. Er ist doch immer noch under Baby. :-)

Mittlerweile ist er in Spanien gelandet. Freitag gehts nach Italien and dann 
weiter nach Griechenland. Muss doch schoen sein, nichtwahr?
Fred 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: schmeve@seeker.mystic.com (Steve Schmitt)
Subject: Online Deutsch-English Dictionary
Organization: Mystic Software Pittsburg, Ca
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:50:34 GMT

I'm looking for an online (PC-based) German-to-English dictionary that
will help me when I'm reading articles in soc.culture.german and elsewhere.
It doesn't need to be anything fancy; in fact, a simple list of word pairs
might be okay.  With a simple text search program, I could lookup the 
translation easily.  (This method wouldn't handle multiple meanings, shades
of meaning, or idioms very well, but it would be better than nothing.)

Anyway, it seems like this should be simple enough that somebody should
have already done it, but time-consuming enough that I really don't want
to do it.  Does anyone know of such a program or list?

Thanks in advance,
 Steve Schmitt                                              .__o
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