From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: A question for any MALE prolifer
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:02:41 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In <1992Apr7.011006.4421@midway.uchicago.edu> eeb1@ellis.uchicago.edu (e elizabeth bartley) writes:

>In article <1992Apr6.202101.10777@cs.dal.ca>
>franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:

>Kevin Welch has said that women should not be allowed to abort unless
>there is a 100% chance that they'll die without one, and the entirety
>of the pro-choicers and a significant fraction of the pro-lifers are
>*ticked* because of that.
   Well, then Kevin is coming from the right direction... I can't place
a value at 100%, but I sure agree that abortion should be treated with
more seriousness in the future. In my mind, there is little if any
justification for an abortion, and we are told that high risk of
death is a proper reason for abortion. Personally, I'm not sure
I even agree with this...

>>  By the way, I figure, whether I am right or not, why take the chance.

>Because there's a real live breathing FemalePerson who doesn't want to
>be pregnant.  Don't forget her.
   Doesn't want to be pregnant? Then dont' have sex. That's the only
guarantee where another kid doesn't get hurt. Oh, sorry, another
inanimate/lump-of-flesh/fetus... 

>>Just like capitol punishment, once you abort the fetus, there's no
>>turning back. If you choose to have the pregnancy, then at any time
>>after that, if you feel that the kid just isn't for you, then place him/her
>>up for adoption. Abortion is too serious of an option to be treated lightly.

>So is adoption, you idiot.
   God you all are predictable... Get the least bit annoyed and what
do you turn to? Insults... well done Elizabeth. In any case, I assure you
I am not an idiot. Stop writing your arguments for an idiot. You know
what an idiot is? A person who hasn't been given the gift of intelligence,
and when you call _me_ an idiot, you don't offend me, but more so, those
you refer to.
   Adoption is a serious option, but the results are a hell of a lot
less sever. THe kid makes it through the pregnancy, a family gets to
expand, and we pro-lifers don't feel like there was just another death. 
Granted, there are adoptions that turn out awfully, but you know what?
We can say that we at least gave it a try. 
   steve

>--
>"Never underestimate the power of human stupidity."   - Robert A. Heinlein
 "Never underestimate the ignorance of a violent pro-choicer"
                                                       -Steve Franklin
>Pro-Choice       Anti-Roe                             - E. Elizabeth Bartley
 Pro-Choice , but the only choice is LIFE!             -Steve Franklin
 ^^^Incedentally, just so you don't try and walk all over my back,
I am referring to the life of the fetus. Not the mother, the fetus. 
That is what is most important to me. 
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