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From: 3040_3744@uwovax.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Another Question . Reply for that.
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:03:44 EST

In article <1992Apr7.133355.10135@topaz.ucq.edu.au>, khant@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
> 
> I know that i will not believe you as you did not believe me. The cnclusion
> 
> from me is, you should accept Islam and save yourself from going to Dozaq.
> 
> That is my best suggestion to you.  Have you got any logic which say that
> 
> a man is very liked by Allah and died in toilet.  I thin we those who can
> 
> not say ourself realy a good muslim, are better than a man who died in a 
> 
> toilet.  Toelet is worse place to die.  Allah can not gives worse death to
> 
> his noble man than toilet.  If your (naooz billah toba) rasool was a 
> 
> noble man or a man who was liked very much by Allah then how come he could
> 
> have died in a toilet, a worse place in the world to die.  Is not it enough 
> 
> for the defination of a worse ever man in the world. I think that is an easy
> 
> to understand logic to prove a fitna.  I have read that your Ghulam Qadiyani
> 
> was a superb man, he was a good follower of Allah but before his claim of 
> 
> nabi (naooz billah toba), before the attack of iblees (shahtan-e-murdood).
> 
> Just see through a simple logic how come a man who is died in toilet, can 
> 
> be a Rasool or nabi. I think it is enough for a child to understand that a 
> 
> man who was died in toilet can not be a good man of Allah rather than a 
> 
> worse man among the humanity and kindness. Even Allah does want a true
> 
> Kafir or chiristane to die in toilet. Allah wanted to show the people the
> 
> end of a worse man death. (Beshak Allah Her Chees Per Qadir Hai).      


THIS IS ANOTHER FALSE ACCUSATION AGAIST HAZRAT MIRZA GHULAM AHMED QADIANI. IT
HAS NO BASIS AND JUST A BIG LIE TO DIVERT THE ATTENTION OF TRUE SEEKERS. THE
WHOLE STORY IS ABSOLUTELY FALSE.
From: fkhurshi@crc.ac.uk (Ms F. Khurshid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: SCARY THOUGHT
Summary: lateral question
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:52:34 GMT
Organization: MRC Human Genome Resource Centre

In article <1992Apr13.113643.2376@newserve.cc.binghamton.edu>, vu0208@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu (!) writes:
> In article <45006@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> khan@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (LAHORI POOND) writes:

> >I just had a very scary thought.What would happen if all the people
> > on SCP were locked in a room without any exits.This is a very scary thought     indded any comments??.
> 
> An ingenious thought experiment indeed.
> 
> How big is this room, does it have any windows or a ceiling!
> Also imagine if there is no cold water or ice in this room! scarier...!
> 
> >   lahori(LHL 111) Poond

Oh I get it!  It's one of those lateral thinking questions!   So now we ask you
questions to find out why all SCP correspondents were in the one room 
to start with....................
...................................the mind boggles.
From: memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Test
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:01:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

Only a test. Well as long as I am posting the article does anyone
know how to change to editor from emacs to vi within your Pnews
program. 

Thanks

Naveed
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: msaeed@isis.cs.du.edu (Sajid Saeed (Floyd? Nah!!!))
Subject: Have you driven a Floyd,lately?
Summary: Floyd'ian blues! Jump the bandwagon.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 06:39:05 GMT

Interesting discussion we havin' at Pink Floyd's expense! Anyone else care to
join, or is it just me and...

				sajid [Sniper at the gates of Pasadena!] Saeed
From: ss511583@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Sohban Shahid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Please reply Mr Nasir Ahmed Noor
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:41:06 GMT
Reply-To: ss511583@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Sohban Shahid)
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University


>Your maulvi Tahir Qadri invited our Hazoor to the Minar-e-Pakistan and said
>if this Mirza shows up at 'minar', I will accept the challenge and we will
>spend the whole night there and will see who turns other one in the morning
>(this is not the exact account of the events, but this is roughly what he
>said). It was a confirmed report to us thru our own Inteligence system that
>he plans to murder our Hazoor thru some anonymous attackers that night and
>wanted to show the world that Mirza has been punished by God. Very Celver
>plan indeed. 
>Hope this answer is enough. 

Utter crap

SOHBAN SHAHID                 e-mail ss511583@longs.lance.ColoState.Edu
Civil Engg. Dept.                      (303) 491 5844/8204 (work)
Colorado State University  (303) 224 0397  (home)
Ft. Collins, CO-80523
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: faryal@harry.ugcs.caltech.edu (Faryal [Pink Floyd] Ghalib)
Subject: Van Morisson
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:09:35 GMT

This song is for the person who asked me for a "Dirty women'( You know
who you are), so I am refering you to Gloria(I dont know her but I am sure
you do) she probably live close by your house so go over there.

		Gloria
		(van morrison)


Like to tell you 'bout my baby
You know she comes around
Just 'bout five feet four
From her head to ground
Well she comes around here
Just about midnight 
She makes me feel so good lord
She makes me alright.

Her name is g-l-o-r-i-a
Gloria, gloria, gloria ... Etc.

Yeah she comes around here
Just about midnight
Makes me feel so good lord
Makes me feel alright
Walkin' down my street
Comes up to my house
She knocks upon me door 
Makes me feel alright

Her name is g-l-o-r-i-a
Gloria, gloria, gloria ... Etc.

Faryal
--
God is real, unless declared integer
From: khant@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Aeena un ko dekha ya to bura maan gayee
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:45:33 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia


I wrote in a massage that Qadianis are not beleiving Allah (Indirectly) because

they do not beleive what Allah says.  Some of my friends are not agree with me.


     Aeena Un Ko Dikhaya To Bura Maan Gayee



Tariq Mohammad Khan








Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Subject: 'Official Islam'???
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 14:37:26 GMT

>From: ss511583@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Sohban Shahid)
>Subject: Sorry,  you forgot Muhammad (PBUH)!
>       After going through 200 + articles of Ahmedie Muslims (unofficial)
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>on scp I feel an urgent need of an article that basically make our faith
>more strong and if by chance we have gathered some wrong concepts 
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>from our materialistic small world we should realize our standing. 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Can anybody tell me about  'official' Islam? 
You have adopted concepts of  'official' and 'unofficial' Islam  from Catholics.
>
> ISLAM  ZINDA  HOOTA  HAI  ZIKAR-E   NABI   KAI    BAAD

Do not  forget:
Qat-lay  Hussain  Asal  May  Mar-gey  Yazeed  Hey

Arshad  Hussain
From: fmbutt@mrbt.sw.stratus.com (Farooq Butt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: SCARY THOUGHT
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:06:15 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <QMm+xG@engin.umich.edu> hashim@caen.engin.umich.edu (khurshid n hashim) writes:
>I remember reading a play by Albert Camus (I think) about
>
>a man and two women locked in a room without any means of
>
>escape.  They end up making each other utterly miserable.
>
>The play was supposed to be the writer's vision of hell.



The play was "Huis Clos" by Jean-Paul Sartre, and, yes 
it was a chilling vision of hell painted by the man 
who said "L'enfer c'est les autres" (hell is other 
people).


fmb



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relationship to reality. If any reality correspondences are found, please 
notify me IMMEDIATELY. Any threats, abuse or stupidity of any kind is purely 
UNintentional. These are MY Opinions NOT my employer's.
From: chishtim@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Test message, please ignore it.
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:16:13 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

This is only a test message, please ignore it.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM)
Subject: billa-unwaan..........title-less
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:11:48 GMT



	duniya barri bawli, pathaar poojan jaaye
	ghar ki chakki koee na poojay, jiss ka pissa khaaye
 


	[this world is mad; yes, mad indeed, it goes to worship stones
	 why does not anyone worship the household grinding mill,
		whose ground wheat we eat?]


	
	ADIL [....bool kay laab azad haiN tairay
		  bool zubaaN aab tak tairee hai.......] NAJAM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mmasood@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mohammed A Masood)
Subject: UN Peace Plan and Afghan Mujahideen
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:08:31 GMT

	WHY UN "PEACE" EFFORTS IN AFGHANISTAN SHOULD BE DENOUNCED

	*********************************************************

	United Nations has recently accelerated its efforts to bring
"peace" to Afghanistan.  The question arises where were these efforts
when the Afghan people were being killed through Napalm Bombs and the
Machine Guns of the communist soldiers?  Can the peace be established
on the charred bodies of 2M Afghans in the way UN is proposing it to
be established?  Or, does the exterminator of 2M human human beings
has a right to ask for peace?  Can we ever hope to abolish injustice
in this way?

	For those who remember WWII, would you have agreed to Hitler's
call for peace or a share for the war criminals in the German
Government when the Allied forces were just 30 miles away from Berlin?
Wouldn't it seem to be the most absurd and outrageous idea to you?
Would you have agreed to anything less than an unconditional
surrender?  Would it have been justified for the League of Nations to
promote peace at that point?

	Or, would it have been justified for Nikoli Chousesko to talk
about peace when his castle was under siege?  Would you, as a freedom
loving individual, have granted his request for peace?  Do you find
any mercy for such a criminal in your heart?  Would you have supported
any such an effort by the UN?

In a similar way, it is absurd for the UN to promote peace and a
coexistence for communists at this point in Afghanistan.  The blood of
2M Afgans is not so cheap.  The freedom fighters did not sacrifice 2M
of their brethren to see themselves robbed of a victory in the name of
peace.  

It is time for every freedom loving person to denounce so-called
"peace" efforts by UN.
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Da'wah to American Indians
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:19:30 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Apr14.112225.30015@davidsys.com> khan@davidsys.com writes:



>Does anyone notice that the range of mountains
>on the eastern US is named 'Allegheny', 
>sounds like 'Allah Ghani'.

And also, the names

Allah-bama    state
Allah-ska     state
Alla-in-town  city in PA
Allah-ka-tarz island,ex-prison (SF area)
Allah-made-a  city (SF area)
Alla-abu-kar-ke city


come to mind in the same context. :-)


---raj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: nadeem@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Aftab Nadeem)
Subject: Re: Something Else To Do ..
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:14:53 GMT

This post is by Kamran Aftab, e-mail to aftab@mech.eng.mcmaster.ca

In article <1992Apr8.164404.18056@sbcs.sunysb.edu> sjahang@engws7.ic.sunysb.edu (Shahryar Jahangir) writes:
>
>Salaam everyone !
> {some messiah-ee deleted}  :-)
>				Shahryar.
>
>P.S I have some gifs lying around if anyone is interested.
>

Talking of GIFs, do you know how to break encoded files into several parts?
Or are they to be broken while being encoded? how to do that than? How does one
find out how many parts to break the file in (i.e., optimum size) ......
Posting this on the net so that someone else might come up with the answers.

One more thing ... since we're talking about software .... some time ago ..
I distributed an urdu wordprocessor .... I would pretty soon have another
urdu word processor..... if there is enough interest in it, and if it is
not against the eitquette/ethics of SCP to post encoded files on it, I would
consider posting it .  So some old SCP'er tell me if it is ok!  




>-- 
>
>
>	" AND THUS WE HAVE COMMUNICATED ! "
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>* So said the wise man of Mt. Sickinthehead while sitting on a  *
>* toadstool covered with smelly green stuff, picking his nose   *
>* with a lizards nail.					        *
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>		Translated from the ancient toungue "Confusingish"
>		by Shahryar Jahangir.


-- 
Kamran Aftab 				Stop! before you press that "r" (or R),
aftab@mech.eng.mcmaster.ca		<------- that's my e-mail address!
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Industrializing Pakistan
Date: 6 Apr 1992 13:58:03 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: Industrial base, Pakistan

In article <1992Apr4.014226.12877@spectrum.xerox.com> masood@spot.wrc.xerox.com (taha masood) writes:
>
>Dear Netters,
>I would again like to start a discussion about how an industrial revolution 
>can be brought about in Pakistan. Basically info and ideas sharing about what
>is required and how it can it be accomplished.
>
>Any ideas ????

In order to bring any revolution one must have "vision".
A vision that addresses the problems of the people.
A vision that most people discover to be just what
they are waiting for.

The above is a pre-requisite. Once such a message is
in hand, we can then discuss the "mechanics" of
its "implementation"!

Such mechanics will have to be worked under the
theory of that basic motivating "vision". The
attempts of industrialization of all the third world
has always ignored this basic fundamental. Some
people have found some thing very glittery, and
tried unhappily for all, to thrust it down
the throats of people who never wanted it in
the first place!

Here is an amusing anecodote:

There was once a donkey cart driver in Dadu. Once
a picnicer from Karachi found him besides Kalri
Jheel, resting under a shade of tree, at noon-time.
The Karachite picnicer (KP) asked him, "Why are you wasting
your time? didn't you go for the work?".

The Cart driver (CD) replied, "Well, I went. Fortunately,
I got a good deal and earned what I usually do in a day, in
just one hour!"

KP: Why didn't you continue working and made some more money?
CD: I did, I earned sufficient for today.

KP: You should have worked more and earned for other days.
CD: How will this help me?

KP: Well, you can then save and buy a Suzuki pickup.
CD: How will that help me?

KP: You can earn faster and earn more and save more till you
    can then buy a truck
CD: What use it will be for me?

KP: You fool can't you see, you will have then money and
    wealth.
CD: What I will do with my money and wealth?

KP: You just can't understand. If you have money you
    can rest and wouldn't have to work so hard.
CD: But, isn't that what I am doing right now?

[Versions of this story are also found in other cultures]
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Young and Restless: Point to Ponder
Date: 10 Apr 1992 16:32:17 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: burr.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Apr10.191753.10184@topaz.ucq.edu.au> chishtim@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
>
>Dear "Pakistani Bulletin Board" users
>
>Assalam Waaleekum
>
>Whenever I read Pakistan Bulletin Board, I find either a
>religous, or a political war in progress.
>
>Can we make a better use of this facility ?
>
>It is a point to ponder for those, who are dumping all this junk
>on this bulletin board, without thinking about the feelings of other peoples.
>
>I will suggest this "Young and Restless" group to re-direct it's
>energies towards better goals.
>

In article <nadeem.702616599@deathstar> 
nadeem@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Nadeem Hussain) writes:
|
|I have been getting quite depressed reading this bboard and have kept 
|myself from engaging in the discussion both because of a lack of 
|time and because I don't really have a clear idea of how to deal with 
|.....

In the process of going through the debates on this "bboard"
I have learned world of things of which I was not aware. It
has given me new inspiration and new energy and new ideas
of which I never thought I was capable of.

However, if you people don't have the courage to participate
in discussion. If you 
can not derive any thing and are not participating I will advise you
to please follow the discussion quietly and continue to feel 
elated while
contemplating the following wisdom from Hakim Luqman:

It is
called wisdom. "Knowledge" is in the books and "wisdom"
is in the "experience". When Luqman (who is probably known
in the West as Aesop) was asked "from where he learned
wisdom". His reply was not only rational, logical, and
full of insight, but was one which you can never get
from "books of knowledge and philosophy".

He replied that he got the wisdom "from fools!".

Both ways it is going to do you a world of good.
From: khant@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Difference between Qadianis And Lahoori group
Date: 12 Apr 92 13:54:08 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia




Could some one please tell me the difference between Lahoori Group of Qadianis
and only Qadianis(NASIR AHMED NOOR).

If Lahhori Group also not included among Muslims.
From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Subject: Saheeh and 'Saheeh' Hdith
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 14:19:56 GMT

>From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
>Subject: Re: ADVENT OF PROMISED MESSIAH (one answer serves all!!)

>>1).    The Holy Prophet (peace be upon him) is reported to have said
>>          "The Mahdi is no other than the Messiah"(Ibn Majah).

>   Didn't I tell you that Hadiths about Mahdi are contradictory and probably
>most of them are corrupted/fabricated?

   >You still lie, and to may Hadiths about Mahdi are still contradictory;
so >I would still have my claims about you (please, be tolerant).

>Please note that I had already proved (last year I guess) that Hazrat Mirza
>Ghulam Ahmed was of persian descent. Can repost if you ask. 



That is the beauty of YOUR Islam.

If you do  not want ot listen  the logic , blame HADITH.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
From: rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman)
Subject: Re: Yet more excerpts
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:17:16 GMT

Let us see! One exhumes the [objective?] excerpts of  someone from an institute
without any stated reason [or is it the magic word "discrimination?"].
With couple of criticisms of course from Hindus [obviously], the poster
withdraws nonchalantly. Then suddenly he sees the light on the other side
and starts addressing both the sides righteously.

Keep up the good work. At least some one has to take over this muddled
work.

"Discrimination- Love this word for it is so easy to target the source of
all problems in this world"

raghavan
From: khan@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (LAHORI POOND)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: AFGHANISTAN
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:21:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45815
Organization: Purdue University


Assalm-o-Lykum....

        Now that the reports of the Afghan victory are comin in I believe that
 we should sit back and take a serious look at the advents of the last twelve 
 years.Like how much they have meant for us Pakistani's and the Afghans          themselves who went through years of agony and pain.It is a pity that The great supporter of the Afhan Jihad Gen Zia is not alive to see this day.It is true    that because of his continued support of the Jihad we pakistani's had to make a lot of sacrifises, like the law and order situation in karachi and the ever
 rising drug problem.So the question we have to asks ourselves is that was worth it.?   
       I believe that it was.A lot of u may disagree with me and u are entitled  to that.But now that we see the beginig of a new era for the Afghani people the satisfaction that I get out of this is phenomenal(sp).The Afghni's have gone 
 through hell and now they have the oppoturnity to start from scratch.We can now only hope that the Afghani's stay united and dont split into factions and start a new civil war.The Jihad is over against the communist, but a new jihad is 
 starting now.That Jihad is will inshallah wipe out all the differnces between 
 the Afghans and will bring ever lasting peace to Afghanistan.
        Now what remains to be seen is as to what will become of the three        million or so refugees who are still living in Pakistan.



   This is indeed a great day for all of us!!!!!!


later...

            ___
Lahori (LHL 111) Poond
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan