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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: PAS-16, How to record CD clips??
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:47:45 GMT
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/

This took me forever to figure out, too.  The Windows Media Player utility
(should be in your Windows 3.1 Accessories folder) will play audio CDs
through your CD-ROM drive (if everything's hooked up correctly.)  (I seem to
remember some caveat about having an audio CD in the CD-ROM drive when
installing the Windows drivers from the MediaVision disc?  I forget, but I
didn't get Media Player to work the first time through -- it wouldn't give
me the option to select CD Audio.)

It's very good at playing CDs, too -- I like the user interface they use for
it. 

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From: s312@brems.ii.uib.no (Permjit Bhamra)
Subject: SB Pro w/486-50
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 09:37:02 GMT


Is it true that installing SB Pro on a fast 486 (50>>) is a problem,
I have heard that 486-50 ++ machines are to fast for the SB Pro ??

Thanx.

 
__________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: tem1@ra.msstate.edu (Tim Miller)
Subject: Also about hooking up PC speaker to SBPro
Keywords: sbpro, pc speaker
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 21:35:42 GMT

I have the same problem.  The only exception is that while my compuadd 320
(386DX-20) have four pin holes in the speaker plug, it only has two wires
in the plug.  I would love to hook my pc speaker up to it!

Thanx!
Tim


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: rmintz@ecst.csuchico.edu (Rich Mintz)
Subject: Re: Recording steree 44Khz,, 16bit? Disk can't keep up.
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:02:18 GMT

I'll second the notion that stacker can interfere with 
DMA sound recording. I once practically tore my computer 
down to its motherboard trying to figure out why I was 
getting time slices left out of my samples. Turned out 
the problem was that the delays that stacker causes with 
HD processing, which are not (or barely) noticible with 
normal operation, cause problems with digitizing sound 
via DMA. Use a non-stacked drive instead.
 
Once you've recorded a sample, however, you might 
try copying it to a stacked drive for the savings in 
storage space, and see if playback works from there. If 
nothing else, you can store large samples on the stacked 
drive and have a smaller work area on a non-stacked drive 
that you using for the actual recording and playback.
 
   Rich -> rmintz@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Date: Tue,  8 Sep 1992 23:14:42 -0400 
From: Nicolas Alejandro Arauz <na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: EA/Gravis Ultrasound offer

That sounds pretty fantastic, $99 for the UltraSound.  How much is the
sound card without this offer?  I'd figure it would be somewhere near
the PAS-16, in the $200+ range?  Thanks!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: j.rohde@csi.compuserve.com (Joe Rohde)
Subject: Re: New PAS-16 drivers -- Nope
Organization: None here
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:28:06 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.175221.11600@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
>From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
>Subject: Re: New PAS-16 drivers -- Nope
>Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:52:21 GMT

>In <1992Sep8.092059.4179@unibi.uni-bielefeld.de> ittschir@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Tim Tschirner) writes:

>>Can anyone tell me if the new PAS-16 drivers (V1.4) are already out and if so
>>if they are available via anonymous ftp ? From germany it`s not very cheap and
>>easy to download something from a BBS in the United States...


Sorry, I missed the original post.  Compu$erve has the 1.4 beta drivers
in the multivendor forum in section 12.  This is not an add, it's where
I picked them up.  They are much more solid, but there are still
problems.  I believe the final 1.4 release is scheduled for early
October.  CI$ has quite a few german users, so I imagine there are
direct lines there cutting down the phone cost (but not the CIS cost,
sorry).

Joe

(Sorry, I'm not going to send them to an FTP site, I have no idea about
MV's policy on this, and I'm too busy to worry about it right now :-(
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: rb4572@thor.albany.edu (Whitesnake)
Subject: SoundBlaster Pro 16?
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Originator: rb4572@thor.albany.edu
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:02:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: thor.albany.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I heard that there will be a new Soundblaster Pro released soon.  Does anyone
know when, and if it's the 16-bit one?  Apologies if this has been asked
before, I just started reading this group a week or so ago.  Thanks in advance.

-- 
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From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Dion Francois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: MODs 'n MACs
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:40:50 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <BtyHBq.5vC@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> mfleig@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark W. Fleig) writes:
>there are any players for the Mac. My brother owns a IIci, and you'd
>think it'd be able to handle such things. (Though you never know.)
>Suggestions anyone?

TrakBlaster. Works on a LC and other macs.

>Incedently, here's my entry for the hack of the week. Since I'm still
>patiently awaiting the arrival of my Gravis UltraSoon, I decided to
>fiddle with what I've got. How's this: striped phone wire connected
>straight from my internal speaker hookup to a single bass reflex
>speaker. A little noisy, but I get a fairly decent range and sound.
>Not bad for something only intended for system beeps.   :)
>

I am also waiting for the UltraSoon 8( . Last year i made two parrallel port
DACS. It does sound better than a SB. I also did plug a bigger speaker with
bass reflex (a 5"). But after a while i connected the speaker out of the
motherboard to my mixer ( it has 12 stereo channels) thru a resistor and
capacitor (an op-amp would have been better to match impedance and some others
to filter high frequencies).

So i have my cdrom, 2 dacs and internal speaker all on my mixer.
Cost for dacs: 5.43 each including the rca and db25 plugs and the db25 hood.
(everything fits inside the db25 hood).
Cost for internal to mixer: 47 cents ( add 1$ for a Y adapter to have sound
on left and right channels of your amp or mixer).

Ciao,

Francois Dion, CISM 89,3 FM

p.s. to everybody: Ingram told me that they'll have the Ultrasound tomorrow.
WWWHaahahahaha. 1-800-YA-RIGHT.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: swesterback@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: Noise-free soundcards
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:02:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.150546.13848@newshost.unh.edu>, ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>>I have tried both SoundBlaster Pro and Thunderboard cards in my 386-25.
>>They both produce a great deal of background noise from normal computer
>>activities like computation and disk IO.
>>Are there any boards that will solve this problem, or is this somehow the
>>fault of my computer?
> 
> 	I have a Sound Blaster Pro in my 486-33 and have never had any
>     problems with background noise. 

I too have an thunderboard card. On the package it is told to have some
sort of digital filter reducing noise. Probably that filter is standard
on most modern soundcards? 
I would also like to point out that the noise disappears if the level of 
the signal is high enough (the signal-noise ratio). So normally i don't
mind the noise!

Sten

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: New PAS-16 drivers -- Nope
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:52:21 GMT

In <1992Sep8.092059.4179@unibi.uni-bielefeld.de> ittschir@techfak.uni-bielefeld.de (Tim Tschirner) writes:

>Can anyone tell me if the new PAS-16 drivers (V1.4) are already out and if so
>if they are available via anonymous ftp ? From germany it`s not very cheap and
>easy to download something from a BBS in the United States...

I was on the MediaVision BBS last night, and didn't see the new Windows PAS-16
drivers, or the new Trantor CD-ROM drivers for CD-ROM drives running off of
the PAS-16's SCSI port.  I think the former were the 1.4 drivers you were
mentioning, correct?

There were some new DOS PAS utilities (PAS.EXE, and a couple of others) that
were made available at the tail-end of August; but I don't believe any of
these were drivers you're talking about.

PS:  MediaVision
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Wanted:Used soundcard (SoundBlaster)
From: wpb@icf.hrb.com (William P. Bown)
Date: 10 Sep 92 07:24:19 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

I am looking to buy a used soundcard (Soundblaster preferrably).  If anyone
has upgraded and would like to sell their old card for a reasonable price,
please reply with a price including shipping.

Thanks,
       Bill Bown
From: martin@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Disk I/O rates for CD-quality recording
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:29:20 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

tracyb@bnr.ca (Tracy Blomquist) says:
> 
> Perhaps it's the constant seeking of the heads from FAT (to get a new
> cluster) and then back to the actual data area on the disk?  This 
> could amount to an average 32ms (16ms x 2 for my drive) delay between every
> n bytes (where n is the cluster byte size [4096 ?]).  So, if you're
> bringing in 176k (say 44 odd clusters), you've got an average overhead of
> 44x32ms = 1408ms or 1.4 seconds!  So for every second of sampling,
> you lose 1.4 seconds due to seeks (obviously, you can't get ahead).
> Even which large caches, the disk has to do a physical write sometime.
> 
> Does this make sense?  Or am I off base?  I haven't tried this yet
> or done any measurements, but it seems to make some sense.
> 

I was worried about this, and wrote a program to measure disk read/write
rates through the filesystem. I can't remember the exact results, but FAT
based filesystems did *not* look good. However I was using OS/2 v2.0, and
the HPFS was easily fast enough (of the order of 200Kbytes/s from a file,
on a relatively slow disk). I'm now using windows NT, and don't expect problems
with either HPFS or NTFS filesystems.

> A solution could be to write a simple util using int 13 to do 
> direct disk writes to what you know is a contiguous free space
> on the hard drive while sampling the data, thus eliminating the
> constant head thrashing.  After the sampling is done the util
> could go to the FAT and generate the cluster list for the used
> space.  Sort of dangerous, but it can be done if you're careful.

I suppose you *could* do this, but personally I would prefer to use a more
capable filesystem!

> Of course, an easier solution is to setup a large RAM disk assuming
> you have enough RAM to fit the sample size you want.

Well, since I want to be able to record over an hour of sound, I didn't
consider this possibility :-)

Martin
PS
 You can infer *some* useful figures simply by copying around the biggest
files you can find - beware of caches though!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (MAKOFSKY,STEVEN)
Subject: PAS-16 MIDI
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Southern Connecticut State University - Computer Center
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:55:00 GMT

Just wondering if there any schematics lying around for a build it yourself
MIDI port for the Pro-Audio-16.. Thanks in advance..

Steve

MAKOVSKY@SCSU.CTSTATEU.EDU
From: benanav@earth.njit.edu (Dan Benanav)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: PAS-16, How to record CD clips??
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:08:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

ncpmont@angelo.amd.com (Mark Montgomery) writes:

>Having all of 3 days experience with my new PAS-16, I may be lost
>in the trees looking for the forest but I'll be darned if I can
>see how (using the MediaVision supplied software) one can control
>an external CD reader to play a selected section of an audio disk
>and control the PAS-16 to record said section for later use and
>manipulation.  Am I missing the obvious?  If not and this really
>isn't possible with their software, does there exist any P.D. or
>low cost commercial stuff to do this??
>		Confused but having fun,  Mark
>					  (ncpmont@amd.com)


OK here is what I do.  I use three programs the Media Player which comes
with win3.1 the pocket recorder and the pocket mixer both of
whcih came with PAS16 Multimedia Upgrade.  Do you have those?
The media player is used to play the CD-AUDIO.   It must be playing
to record.   The pocket mixer is used to control the volume and
to put the CD-audio in record mode.  The pocket recorder is used
to record the waveform.   You need to know how to play CD-audio to record.
To play CD-audio you do not need the pocket recorder.
Here is what you do to play.
1)Bring up media player and pocket mixer.can also use promixer)
2)In media player click  on devices and select CD-audio. (if its not there
you need to install it using control panel)
3) Click on play.
4) It should play now but if it doesn't it may be that you need to increase
the volume using pocket mixer or put CD-audio in play mode(green) pocket
mixer.  To toggle the mode for CD click at the bottom.

To record you do the same thing except that you should put the
CD in record mode(red).  Then click the red button in pocket recorder
to begin recording.

Let me know if this helps.


                Dan
From: ccjy@bristol.ac.uk (APATHY=)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: DigiStudio (was Re: Thunder & Lightning)
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:40:19 GMT
Distribution: inet
Organization: University of Bristol, England

In article <f1sami.716559961@uta.fi> f1sami@uta.fi (Samu Mielonen) writes:
>In <6LLyqB1w164w@qed.cts.com> rider@qed.cts.com (Tim Rider) writes:
>.
>.
>.
>
>>By the way, has anyone called Covox International and found out the ordering 
>>information for DigiStudio?  Great program... it's definitely worth paying 
>>for!
>
>Could you give a little more information on this product. I am sure
>many people are interested in sound software worth paying for :-)
>
>Haven't seen any, though.
>
>
I can upload a demo for you to wuarchive if anyone is interested.
I helped with the production and trouble shooting.
Btw for your interest Covox Europe and Covox International (US) are 2 different
companies so please don't get the mixed up.
The US side of it sucks big time.

My friends

U4ia
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: cejjb@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Jeffrey J Bird)
Subject: SBF Soundblaster Programming Files
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 11:34:02 GMT

The Soundblaster Freedom project files are now available for anonymous
FTP from wench.ece.jcu.edu.au (137.219.19.20) in the directory /pub/sbf.

All queries can be directed to jeff@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au (or failing
that cejjb@manta.jcu.edu.au).

		Jeff Bird

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: 1040715@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: Speech Recognition with a PC
Keywords: speech recognition
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:57:43 GMT

Check out the April 19XX issues of DR Dobbs.  They have stuff on that sorta 
thing.  I've been working on a voice recog menu, and they've been the most
useful thing I could find, esp the stuff concerning BAM.

  On another topic, thanx everybody for pointers to SB programming info, but
does anyone know how to program the CD?  I don't want to read off it, just to
change to the next track, start playing, change to any particular track,
find out how many tracks there are, and find out the id of the cd..

    Any help would be appreciated....

                   Darren 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: alan@me.utoronto.ca (Alan Milner)
Subject: COVOX - Windows 3.1 DriverS???
Summary: COvox - windows 3.1 drivers - where??
Keywords: COVOX
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:54:55 GMT

thanks....


Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: g89s9058@hippo.ru.ac.za (Shae-Guevara)
Subject: PC SYMPHONY
Summary: What exactly can this card do?
Keywords: symphony
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 07:01:29 GMT

I have just purchased an 'el cheapo' sound card called the PC Symphony.
What  I  want to know is if anyone can tell me more about this
card,  as  it  have  Noooooo  documentation (other that how to
install it)

Can  anyone  give  evaluation as I have only had it a few days
- It is Adlib compatible and in that regard it seems to work fine.

Also on the box it says, and I quote "Soundblaster music circuitry
compatible" (yeah, right!) Now what exactly does that mean?

Can anyone out there help me ?

Thanks in advance
Barry

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From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: EA/Gravis Ultrasound offer
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:38:16 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <10099@cg-atla.UUCP> pasky@cg-atla.UUCP (Robert Pasky) writes:
>I've got EA's brochure in front of me, so...
>
>Here's the offer:

>Special Soundcard Offer --
>SAVE $100 OR MORE! New Gravis UltraSound(tm) Exclusive
>$99 Price with purchase of any of these games. Regularly $199.95
>
>Save $100 or MORE. For every additional purchase of any of ...

Yes, but by the time the Ultrasound is released, if you had put the
$99 in a decent mutual fund, you'd have your money doubled anyway.

(hint: secret plot by Gravis :-)

Spiros (Soundblaster Pro Rules!)



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From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: WELL
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:30:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS-UUCP

I am using Stacker with my 486 DX 33, and I PAS 16 bit, and I have no
problem digitizing.  But I do have a 16 Megs on board, and I told
windows that don't use the hard drive as virtual memory, instead use the
extra memory.

Gravis-sound card is good, it will compete with SB, SB PRO, but come on,
someone posted that gravis is the only board that digitizes in 16 bit
stereo, wrong the PAS 16 does, the pas 16 by far is the BEST MultiMedia
Product for the IBM (rather than those cards that cost $900+).  Gravis
will make its mark, but the PAS 16 just come out at the right time, SB
PRO was like a SB 2.0, and Adlib went under.  PAS 16 grabbed more of the
market.
                                                                                                          
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