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From: johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean)
Subject: DOS 3.3 Launcher and Master Disks
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:37:20 GMT

All releases so far, including 1.3 which Joe Kohn has just posted
to c.b.a2, have not been able to launch "master" disks.
This has confused many people.
My suggestion to people not being able to launch disks which are
known to be standard DOS 3.3, is to copy another DOS image over
tracks 0, 1, and 2.
This can be done with Pronto DOS (from Beagle Brothers) for example.
Once this is done, copy the disk to a file again, and it should launch OK.

The good news is, that version 2.0 of DOS 3.3 Launcher (which is just
about to go beta) will be able to launch disk images of "master" disks.
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From: co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: RamFAST problem?
Date: 13 Dec 1992 21:10:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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My guess would be the Zipgs as it is also DMA.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: danb@pro-sol.cts.com (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: SCSI drive troubles
Date: 18 Dec 92 06:54:09 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-sol], Rancho San Diego, CA

In <17DEC199201061181@rosie.uh.edu>
st1dr@rosie.uh.edu (Frankfort, David C.) writes:

>In article <1992Dec15.163515.576@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu>, cxdb14@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (RANDY) writes..>guy who sold it says my software can't handle Quantum drives, and I need to
>>try it on a Mac. I'm starting to think the drive is toast. Any ideas? Kindly
>>reply rather than following up as I want to get it going ASAP.
>>--
>>Randy
>>cxd14@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
>Try having the drive low level formatted.  This generally does the trick  also
>check that the ids for seagate and quantum and scsi card are different.  Also
>the terminator is at the end  of the chain.

        It's possible that the drive is toasted, but there's no easy way to
do a low-level format on a Quantum drive.  This is, I think, because
Quantum's afraid that you'll change the interleave from 1:1, which is a Bad
Thing on a Quantum drive (64k+ cache and all).

>********************************************************************************
>*David F.				No silly quote.			       *
>********************************************************************************

--> Dan


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From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:19:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkside.BzC419.7Fr
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
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: >No way. Who's gonna
: >revise our System Software? No one. 
: 
:   Procyon, an Apple II software company with extensive operating
: system experience, is in great shape to do just that, as long as you're
: willing to pay for it.

Is Procyon going to get the rights from Apple?
: >The Apple IIgs will be dead by 1993, we

: last month.  So tell me, what the heck is the difference in this
: 'support' you seek, between 7 machines in a month and zero?

7 machines, better than zero!
: >At Apple,
: >we've reached the point of no return. 
: 
:   "At Apple, we've"? I didn't know you worked at Apple!?
: 

I meant that we have reached the point of no return, in terms of support by
Apple, as James Brookes says, "It's not gonna happen"

: >(Or atleast with the IIgs, what are
: >they gonna do? Hold on to the IIe for a year and then drop it too?)
: 
: >What about "Apple II Forever", Matt? 
: 
:   Roy, I hardly think Matt is resonsible for removing the IIgs from
: the price list.

I didn't say that...
: 
: >What about that? Lack of support is one
: >thing, but having our forefathers lie to us is another.
: 
:   What support would you like?  I know Matt and others in DevSupport
: give me great developer support.  Do you want Apple to port every
: single Macintosh application to the IIgs? What would be the point?
: 

'twould be nice.. <grin>.. but what support would I like? I'd love to see
commercials, I'd love to see new peripherals, new Operating systems, a
new CPU for every 5 macs, some recognition.. (I know I'll be flamed for this..)
: >"It's only 6" long!" -- James L. Brookes         So any stupid comments me say
: >                                                        are computer generated.
: 							^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: Right. :)

Yep, stupid mail gateway, I hate this.. It spits out stupid comments that make
a certain group of people mad... Hmm..
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From: gasman@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MODifier
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 12:36:10 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I have NO idea what you mean by "totally incompatible" with BSCing. I 
thought all a BSC did was take a file, and divide the file by 7 bits 
instead of 8. If this doesnt make sense, think of it like this: You have 
56 bits. On an 8 bit transfer, you would make 7 bytes. On a 7 bit 
transfer, you would make 8 bytes. Comprende? And as for quadrascope, I 
have no friends with an amiga, so PLEASE describe it! Also, I dont know
if this is in Quadroscope or not, but if it is possible, can you make the
"jukebox" controllable with the mouse, or at least keyboard? Thanx.
Later,
        Gasma
n
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From: jbush@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J Eric Bush)
Subject: Kitchen Sink goes 800
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:16:43 GMT

Kitchen Sink Software has just opened a 1-800 number for ordering products.  
The number is: 1-800-235-5502.  This number is for orders only.  Our tech 
support number remains the same at: 1-614-891-2111.  We accept VISA and MC on 
orders as well.

Kitchen Sink has also released version 1.1a of AccuDraw the most complete 
graphics package for your Apple II.

Creativity Update (Autumn 1992) is back and customers should receive their
issue soon.  Subscriptions are just $2.00 for 2 years or single issues are 
$1.00 each.  Creativity Update is published 3 times a year.  Creativity Update 
has tips for using Kitchen Sink products, and new technology for your Apple 
products.

Eric
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From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Wish list for FAX software on the GS
Date: 14 Dec 92 01:10:32 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <9212132333.AA26390@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca> 
90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) writes:
>The following revelation escaped Richard J Wifall's lips:
>> 
>> However, you brought up 3200 color pics.. Now I have a question.  How
>> important is it for people to be able to send grey-scale and color
>> faxes.  I *could* implement them, but I'm not sure it is really worth
>> the time or effort as most fax machines out there can only handle
>> black and white documents.  I may consider adding them as an upgrade
>> if I sell enough of the first version..
>
>    I've never seen or used a colour fax machine, so I don't think that
>would be a priority.  16-level greyscale should be considered, since that's
>becoming standard equipment.

Well, the point is that anyone with this software could send/receive a color
fax, if color faxing was implemented.  Then all you'd need would be a
color printer such as an Imagewriter II. 

I think color faxing would be nice, if it's not too difficult.  Maybe as
an upgrade to the initial version?

>-- Real name: Brian Tao (Dept. of Exobiology, University of Toronto)
>-- Preferred: 90taobri@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca (checked daily)
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From: king@acpub.duke.edu (King Rhoton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Appleworks and LaserWriter+
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:17:08 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

OK, so I got my mom a laserwiter+ since I understood that Apple's
Postscript laserwriters have a built-in imagewriter emulator, but this
does not exactly seem to be the case.  More specifically, the printer
works fine with the "PR#1" output redirection, and also works fine in
full postscript mode in publishit 4.0, but in appleworks, everything
goes haywire.  Every line is underlined, and every line starts with 4
digits.  Does this ring any bells for anyone?  I'm guessing that the
laserwriter doesn't exactly have an Imagewriter emulator, but more
likely, a Diablo630 emulator.  I don't want to do anything fancy from
appleworks--just print appleworks files, plain text (maybe some margin
changes here and there).  Can anyone point me to a printer definition
for a Diablo 630, or what the control codes I need in the appleworks
printer set-up screen?
Any help or tips are appreciated,
King
(please respond directly as I no longer have an appleII and don't keep
up with this list)
king@acpub.duke.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)
Subject: Ultrix (was Re: bsc)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:16:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.130641.4979@cas.org> lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>Ultrix is a BSD 4.2 based version of Unix.
>
>If someone wants to contact me directly by email and discuss the situation,
>I currently have access to both VAX and DEC RISC Ultrix systems and
>could perhaps investigate a bit...

Thanks for the offer, but Neil Parker got it running on the first try...good
show, I must say :)



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: biske@cs.uiuc.edu (Todd Biske)
Subject: MIDI software for //gs
Organization: Delta Group
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:50:18 GMT

What software exists either commercially or PD for sequencing/controlling/whatever
MIDI devices on the //gs?  Reply via email please.  Thanks!

-tb

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From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Subject: 8/16 Central back issues - are they worth buying for a //e programmer?
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:03:52 GMT

I am considering buying the 8/16 Central full set (20 disks for US$79) but I
thought I would first ask if anyone has seen them and can tell me how much
is relevant to me as I do not have a //gs, just a //e.
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From: johnt@meaddata.com (John Townsend)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Out of This World "features"
Date: 18 Dec 1992 16:02:50 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: skibum.meaddata.com


Well, I finally finished "Out Of This World," and I am truly impressed.  It'd
be nice if it were longer, but there are enough challenging obstacles in it to
make it last awhile and make it fun to play again.  In the course of playing
it, though, I think I ran into a couple of programming bugs.

<Fair warning:  I'll try to avoid spoilers, but stop here if you're a purist.>

The first one happens every time, but doesn't significantly affect game play.
There are two levels, one above the other, on which you can cross the waterfall.
However, if you've done everything that you're supposed to in the caverns, the
first time you cross on the LOWER level you mysteriously wind up on the next
screen on the other side of the UPPER level, with your buddy crawling below you.
If you go back the way you came, you find yourself on the upper level instead
of the lower level, and have to go all the way back to the stairs and cross
again to get to the room with the chandeliers.

The second one happens occasionally, and requires a restart.  Near the end,
after the guard catches you as you are falling off the building and kicks you
into the next room, when the guard walks into the room, you are no longer there!
He and your buddy duke it out and there's nothing you can do.  If you hit 'C'
and re-enter the save code (or any other save code, I think) the scene you
arrive at is messed up (e.g. there are no, uh, babes at the pool).  This only
happened occasionally to me, when I was dying repeatedly in that room.

Another curiosity is the four or so variously-colored dots in the upper left
corner of every screen.  Has anyone figured out their significance yet?

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From: st1q9@rosie.uh.edu (Devine, Della M)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: archive info
Date: 16 Dec 1992 12:08 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

  I just got some files from the comp.sources.apple2 archive and was
wondering if there was any way to remove the -'s in front of each line
without having to go an manually delete them? it's a real pain.

thanx
william c devine ii
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Subject: Re: Patching the menu manager
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:23:28 GMT
Organization: Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2

In article <BzD8FB.FJE@CAM.ORG>, vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) wrote:
> 
> 
> For a program I am writing I need to patch the MenuSelect call in the Menu
> Manager.

As was stated in an earlier post by me, you may just _think_ you need to
patch MenuSelect to do what you want to do.

So tell us what it is you want to do, and maybe we can tell you how to do
it in a way that will be finished before Dick Clark ages.

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
============================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: ORCA system() command ... help!
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:48:26 GMT

Hail,

please, someone help me. The following code produces (after executing
the system() call) an error message "Could not find file:" from the
system. Very strange. 

#include <stdio.h>
#include <stdlib.h>
#include <strlib.h>

int
main (void)
{
  int result;
  char *it;

  it = strdup ("compile -E -P test.c  keep=test");
  result = system (it);
  return (result);
}

test.c does of course exist, strdup duplicates a string (and allocates
space for it via malloc). The same code w/o the strdup works (i.e. if
I chant 'result = system ("compile -E -P test.c  keep=test");').
Very, very strange ....

Soenke

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: spelok@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Scott D Pelok)
Subject: What is $1104 error?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:20:17 GMT


What is error $1104 when trying to run a self-extracting archive???


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lunatic@netcom.com (Lunatic Johnathan Bruce E'Sex)
Subject: Re: choosing sides
Organization: Netcom; Renegade User
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:06:46 GMT

    \/\/ell, I hope no one here thinks that I've "chosen sides."
 
    ]['ve come back and been monitoring comp.sys.apple2 and posting
 here for the first time in a couple of months because I knew when
 I saw Ernie Moore's message up on GEnie that it's sure to have been
 posted here, as well.  I wanted to come on and correct what I could
 from that "transcript" as people were sure to be asking about a lot
 of the questionable things in it.  As one of the attendees of that
 meeting, I felt a certain obligation to the Apple II community at
 large to provide what first-hand insights I could.
     _
    /-\fter seeing all this flak, though, it's not too likely that
 I'll be sticking around again for that much longer.  This newsgroup
 has proven itself consistently to be a great sinkhole full of
 negativity, flames, and prejudice.  The Apple II community should
 be doing its best, right now, to pull together and have everyone
 help each other.  Instead, here all we get is petty bickering.
 Come on, people, I'm sure you can all do better than that.


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From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Subject: More Apple Commentary....
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 18:32:35 EST


 
 
The Shock Therapy
contains new message(s)
 
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Ctrl-S Stop/Start  Spacebar to Exit
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Well, I have mixed emotions about this project, its goals and results. 
While I
believe its _very_ important to make sure Apple Computer Inc. knows how
strongly we feel about the Apple II line, emotions don't pay the bills. 
Apple
Computer Inc., is not a not-for-profit organization and must continue to be
profitable and provide a reasonable rate of return to its stockholders and
investors.  We as Apple II fanatics have a well earned reputation for being
tight with the wallets.  Apple has certainly not capitalized on the
"installed
user base", which could certainly be construed as a mismanagement of a
considerable non-tangible asset.  However, we need to demonstrate the
commercial viability of Apple II line.  Certainly from an R&D and
manufacturing
standpoint the costs should be low.  (The bulk of development is done, and
the
tooling, etc. for production long amortized.)
 
Rather than presenting a list of whines and complaints about how Apple has
abandoned us,  we should present ideas of how Apple can win while
continuing to
capitalize on the massive investment and potential unrealized in the Apple
II
community.  Business is business, and no matter what we may think of John
Skulley and crew, they are smart business men.  I think that if a realistic
business plan is presented (like maybe using the Apple II line to
strategically
combat the influx of import and low-end computers into the small business
and
home computer markets while avoiding debasing the "flagship" Macintosh line
directed at power users and business applications) we may be able to direct
Apple into a path of mutual satisfaction.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: cole@concert.net (Derrick C. Cole)
Subject: Help bringing II+ back to life
Organization: MCNC Data Operations
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:57:48 GMT

Greetings!

I'm trying yet again to spark some life/use into my II+.  I'm trying to get
both binscii.exe and app381 (kermit) downloaded so as to autonomously grab
files for the Apple.  Here's how far I've come:

I null-modemed my PC to the Apple SSC, IN#1'd, and now what I type on the PC
keyboard affects the Apple.  I have a program called 'Apple Aids', one of the
modules being an exec file creator.  Running this module, I get a '!' prompt
for data until I type 'quit'.  What I excitedly thought would work would be to
set everything up as described, run this creator, and then upload the file in
ASCII mode.  The net effect (in theory) would be as if I typed it all in from
the Apple keyboard.

To put it bluntly, it didn't work.  The most noticable things were 1, newlines
were ignored and 2, lowercase characters were translated as garbage.

I have another program called 'Data Capture 4.0'.  However, after the program
loads, a constant stream of random characters ensues.  I've used this program
in the past, but with a Hayes Micromodem II.  Is it that specific, or should/
would it recognize the SSC?  If so, how?

Any and all help/insight would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Derrick

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