HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Searching for the Perfect Turkey
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:48:03 GMT
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Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com's message of 9 Nov 92 05:42:20 GMT

In article <c4d-qAJDBh106h@wildrose.infoserv.com> rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink) writes:


   martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

   >Well, obviously, you can't use last year's turkey.  Fresh turkeys are better.

   Darn it anyway, just when I thought I had all the presidential threads
   in my kill file!  :-)

See my previous post.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
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From: charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:57:44 GMT
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology

In article <DANIEL.92Nov11114355@algol.clsi.COM> daniel@clsi.COM (Daniel Barclay) writes:
>					
>Why can't _I_ think of a signature?

Daniel is one of the millions of American afflicted with signature impairment,
or SI.

Each year, SI strikes more and more young computer-literate people.
Each year, we seem further than ever from a cure.  But research takes
money.

That's where we come in.  We're the Signature Impaired
Computer-Literate Young, or SICLY.  We're out there, day after day,
bringing new hope to those who are unable to coin an original thought
or steal a witty saying.

Please give generously, so that little Daniel here can go on to overcome
signature impairment and lead a full, rewarding life.

Thank you.

Charleen

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: elections
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:27:30 GMT

martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

>kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Me) writes:
>and the Congressional Democrats move
>further and further to the left every year, it seems.  

>Depends.  After all, the Left let Clinton in

Well, yes, they needed to slip someone by the electorate who would
pass all their bills.  So they found a small-time governor who could
pose as a moderate to run for President without bothering to tell him
that the US Congress was a bit tougher than the AR state legislature.
The left wing of the Democratic Party has twelve years of socialist
legislation just waiting for a guy whom some say has a very hard time
saying no.  Starting with DC statehood, repeal of the Hatch Act, and a
bill to ban hiring of replacements for striking workers....

>of course, the papers are filled with the Left saying "Now we have to
>make sure Clinton works for our side instead of what *he* said" 

At least they're being honest.

>but let's give him the benefit of the doubt for the moment.

I gave him the benefit of the doubt on November Third. 

The thought of James Baker being turned on Americans was more than I
could stomach.  And Clinton talks a good show.  If he can say no to
Congress, and sticks to his published plans (rather than the
Democratic platform) he'll be no worse a Prez than any in my lifetime,
with the possible exception of Gerald Ford, and quite possibly the
best of them.  
	My biggest fear from a "successful" Clinton presidency is the
prospect of anti-progress environmental extremist Al Gore being the
front-runner eight years from now.  Or maybe a Supreme Court filled
with senior partners from Hillary's law firm... or Larry Tribe, Alan
Dershowitz, and Abner Mickva.  (Unlike some people, I'm not at all
bothered by an industrial policy--we throw money down all kinds of
sewers already, one more can't hurt much.)

>vaguely recall Nixon having a balanced budget, perhaps in 68 or 69.
If true, I guess there was one.  Of course, Nixon implemeted wage and
price controls, and created or expanded federal revenue sharing.

>Reagan actually submitted balanced budgets on a couple of occasions,
According to the most recent figures I've seen, the deficit went up
dramatically under Reagan, and even more dramatically under Bush.
But I don't think Clinton will be able to bring it down by even a
third over four years.
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:42:42 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
 <lg0hdnINN1ge@news.bbn.com> <##cqfzk@lynx.unm.edu>
 <MARTINC.92Nov11181606@hatteras.cs.unc.edu>
 <92316.220655SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <BxMvu0.GM8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>

Kiran, aren't you assuming that less-polluting industry won't
produce wealth?

I see this as an issue of good business practice; running down capital
plant for short term gain is generally regarded as a bad idea (at least
by my understanding of things.)  The planet is 'our' (everybody's) joint
capital plant.

If the accounting were to include the enviromental damage as a cost
how profitable would 'dirty' industries be?

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: golovch@prim.rose.utoronto.ca (Gene Golovchinsky)
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female boy/guy/male
Organization: University of Toronto, Department of Industrial Engineering
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:32:15 GMT

My opinion on the gender issue: There are many words in the English
language that have multiple meanings, and this does not generally cause
any problems because the meanings are disambiguated by context.
When I see the word Mankind, I do not automatically envision continents
full of males (a truly horrifying thought!). Instead, to me that word
implies all people regardless of gender, age, sex, race, time or place
of birth, etc.  (* Here comes the philosophical bit *) 

To insist on making that distinction implies the necesity to make
distinctions among other attributes that characterise individuals of
the homo sapiens species. But that also implies loss of generality
and an (in MY opinion) makes spoken and written English more cumbersome.

There are other issues I could bring up (symbols, etc), but I figure
the flames about the preceding paragraphs will keep me busy enough.

Cannot resist one more thought: If people simply treated others in the
way they would like to be treated themselves, we as a society would not
need to spend so much time arguing about minority rights, offensive
actions (thoughts?), etc. We are all equal, none of us is more equal
than any other. 

Happy flaming,

 2
G
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Nightline and Presidential Cantidates
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:50:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.thurlow.721079418
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov2.213249.10582@dsd.es.com> pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz) writes:

>So all the pro-Clinton people slam Bush, and all the pro-Bush people
>slam Clinton. Great. You have each done a fine job of making your
>respective candidates look favorable.

Making _any_ of the candidates look favorable this year is just too
hard.  It's a lot easier making the ones you fear most look as much
like tha antichrist as possible.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: markr@mot.com (Mark)
Subject: Re: Argh! Total, Complete misery.
Reply-To: markr@mcil.comm.mot.com
Organization: MCIL
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 11:37:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.180142.26353@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.072914.19347@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>
>>Trygve   (Who doesn't mind being in captivity from time to time, but
>>          prefers thick, soft cotton rope--handcuffs tend to be 
>>          uncomfortable and too small while scarves tend to tear if
>>          I start to struggle at all.) 
>
>
>Houseguests of mine were _extremely_ thoughtful.  They left behind
>just such thick, soft cotton ropes tied to the feet of my (guest) 
>double bed.  Now, wasn't that sweet??

Why can't I have guests like that ?  Seriously though, I've been
looking for just the above type of rope (soft cotton) and all I
can find is the braided stuff which isn't too comfortable.  Where
can comfortable, relatively strong, soft cotton rope be found ?
(If it were washable, that would be a plus)

Mark
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Hints (Was Re: What is attractive)
Date: 8 Nov 92 17:14:19 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov5.182021.23840@schbbs.mot.com> Matt Valentine writes:

>The response to the 'hints' thread has been great.  I summarized the  
>various opinions I have been gathering:

I find your summaries good but written as if men and women were
different species.  Men have needs and have to help women learn what
they are, and women have a duty to try to meet the needs they can
meet.  Take it from me, as someone who once tried dating a very sweet
but almost completely thoughtless woman, and couldn't get my needs
met despite my very best attempts to tell her what I wanted & needed.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female  boy/guy/male
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:16:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.144540.8541@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>  
> This person sounds normal. Stay away from her or or you won't get the 
> opportunity to post a sob story about how women have led you astray.
> 

Where do you meet "women who will lead you astray"?

>  Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.

Straying men want to know.

Larry Billings

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: My Swiss Lover
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:57:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.014227.15186@sol.UVic.CA>, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) writes:
> 
> 
> Her name is "Rolex"
> 
> dreas

HEY! Boy, what are you doing to that WATCH???

Larry Billings
Most of us are sad, No one lets it show,
I've been shadows of myself,How was I to know?         Eagles
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From: GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu ("Broward "Babe" Horne")
Subject:      If you wnat
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 22:04:13 MST
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    If you wanna be happy
        for the rest of your life
    Gotta make a
       Canadian woman your wife

    So from my personal point of view
       Bet a crazy woman to marry you

    Don't matter how she tastes
       I guarantee it won't be waste

    If you wanna be happy
       for the rest of your life
    Bail out on
       on American Woman strife
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female boy/guy/male
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:48:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.032750.18416@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Bathsheba.Grossman@launchpad.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman) writes:
|> >In article <1992Nov10.184253.20942@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:

|> >Well...there is one. Say, for the sake of argument, I were dating a
|> >sculptperson. And say that I mentioned to my friends that I were dating
|> >a sculpter. It just doesn't sound quite as...non-controversial...as 
|> >scultptress!
|> 
|> It's gone down the bit bucket now, but I did say that some people would
|> find the despecification of formerly masculine nouns disconcerting, and
|> this is exactly the sort of annoyance I was referring to.  I'd rather see
|> you try a few brain-flexibility katas than see the language butchered. 
|> This isn't the world's biggest problem, it doesn't even make my
|> personal top 50, but it's out there, and you're not part of the
|> solution.
|> 
|> (Note that this guy can't spell and has to be reformatted out of the
|> 80-column club too.  Phew, I don't date nitwits anyway.)

I make one typo, and now I can't spell? Go back to bed and try getting up
on the other side. 

As for the limitations of your news editor...well, that just doesn't interest
me in the least.

Oh yeah, there was one other thing. My post was purely hypothetical (and
not nearly as serious as you seem to want to make it). I was most certainly
*not* offering you the opportunity of dating a "nitwit." So don't fret.

jds

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am wome
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 22:02:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.013105.14917@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>
>Good topic! This thread hits on the fundamental psychological difference 
>between the sexes, IMVHO:
>
>Women look for love and find sex while men look for sex and find love!

So how come most of the women I know complain frequently about not
getting enough sex?  (Particularly the ones who are in relationships--
and find that after the first week or two their partner is more 
interested in video games than in a few hours of passion.)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Hints (Was Re: What is attractive)
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:30:25 GMT

In article <74081@apple.Apple.COM>, stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
> 
> >One of the first things I tell all the
> >women I date, if it looks like things are going to go somewhere, is my 
> >inability to "catch hints".  
> 
> Do you expect all instances of misunderstanding to be automatically
> forgiven before the fact, just because you say you can't catch hints? 

No but I would expect her to realize that I might have missed that "obvious"
sign/hint, and either give a stronger hint or slap me upside the face and
tell me what she wants.
I had one SO that we even discussed our problems, her first words were " You
obviously want a long term relationship, but things aren't working out the
way I want them to."  We talked for over an hour (she had to go to work) and
spent most of the time discussing what I wanted---To keep dating her with
long term/perhaps lifetime relationship.  I explained my inability to figure
out "hints" which she seemed to accept, but never told me what she wanted 
me to do/not do.  I never figured it out, we broke up.  Now I think I know
what she wanted, but I'm still only guessing.

> Or do your SOs refuse to forgive you even after you've offered a sincere
> apology?

Usually my apology is accepted, but the hurt feelings and bad times could
have been avoided.  I'm still looking for a school on understanding women.
Despite several close female friends I'm nowhere close to knowing how thier
minds work.  I think I have a roadmap of my mind printed on my face.

> 
> 
> Stef                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> stef@apple.com       It is the time you have wasted for your rose
>                      that makes your rose so important.       Saint-Exupery
>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Larry Billings
Most of us are sad, No one lets it show,
I've been shadows of myself,How was I to know?         Eagles
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From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Argh! Total, Complete misery.
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:59:49 GMT
	<oneil.720774124@cwis> <1992Nov4.062914.28363@mikejag.wimsey.bc.ca>
	<1992Nov5.151656.3189@clsi.COM>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: kevin@clsi.COM's message of 5 Nov 92 15:16:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.151656.3189@clsi.COM> kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron) writes:
   soc.singles.happy         (just for Nance)

I dunno ... from my mail queue recently, I'm not sure she qualifies
either. 
--
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     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
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From: morin@noao.edu (Marg Morin)
Subject: Re: Argh! Total, Complete misery.
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:31:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.113739.13704@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> markr@mcil.comm.mot.com writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.180142.26353@cbnews.cb.att.com> eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov4.072914.19347@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>>
>>>Trygve   (Who doesn't mind being in captivity from time to time, but
>>>          prefers thick, soft cotton rope--handcuffs tend to be 
>>>          uncomfortable and too small while scarves tend to tear if
>>>          I start to struggle at all.) 
>>
>>
>>Houseguests of mine were _extremely_ thoughtful.  They left behind
>>just such thick, soft cotton ropes tied to the feet of my (guest) 
>>double bed.  Now, wasn't that sweet??
>
>Why can't I have guests like that ?  Seriously though, I've been
>looking for just the above type of rope (soft cotton) and all I
>can find is the braided stuff which isn't too comfortable.  Where
>can comfortable, relatively strong, soft cotton rope be found ?
>(If it were washable, that would be a plus)
>
>Mark
>
>

Try checking sewing supply stores (Hancocks, Singer) ... look
for the type of stuff used for making curtain tie-backs. I think
you'll find something to your satisfaction. 

Good luck.
-- 
 MARG MORIN  "Call me M"		(morin@noao.edu)  
	aka: The Seeker   		 AURA/NOAO Tucson, AZ
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 "I'm just a person trapped inside a woman's body" - Elaine Boosler
From: arj@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu (Adam Resch Johnston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: looking for address
Date: 6 Nov 1992 02:20:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve Univ. Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nomad.eeap.cwru.edu

I am looking for the email address of a friend at Purdue Univ.
She is in the Industrial Eng. Dept.
Does anyone have a list of host names so I can search for her.
I know her login name, but not what system her account is on.
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Changing inner conversation (was Re: Woman From Hell Part 2)
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:06:38 GMT
	<74082@apple.Apple.COM>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: stef@Apple.COM's message of 7 Nov 92 17:03:23 GMT


In article <74082@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:

   jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:

   >It is this conversation which we have with ourselves at all
   >times which dictates how we interpret the world around us.  If others
   >are to show up for us in a different way, then we must change our own
   >conversation 

   Well said. So how have you gone about doing this?

If you mean "how have you come up with this concept", I took some
seminars which I would be happy to discuss in email.  

If you mean "how did you change your conversation", I would have to
say my declaring that I was going to be a different person in the
world ( strong, honest, open, caring ) and then _being_that_person_.
By deciding not to bring the past into the future -- to make a break
with the past.  When I am being rigorous with myself in regards to
maintaining these attributes, they seem to be evoked in others.  My
own honesty and openness inspires others to honest and open.  My
strength (I don't mean physical) inspires conviction in others.  

BTW, I had a chance to practice this in those seminars I took.


Spidey!!!





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From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: How would *you* react?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 21:57:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.073347.3502@dorsai.com> mutation@dorsai.com (Florian Lengyel) writes:
>tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>: 
>: Naaah--the tough part is finding someone who actually wants someone
>: emotionally secure and emotionally available.  After all, where's the
>: challenge in someone who is emotionally available (you can't even be
>: the one to "rescue" him or her) or the excitement in someone who is
>: emotionally secure?  Sure, they might sound good on paper and some 
>: people will say that they're looking for someone with those qualities,
>: but how many actually find emotionally secure and available people
>: interesting romantically when they do meet them?
>
>there's some truth there, but I have to say that if you don;t find
>emotionally secure and available people interesting when you meet them,
>then give them some time. There's the possibility that they may not
>find you that interesting, or worse. Or they might, but like other
>emotionally secure people who are available, they don't have to
>be interested right away.

Sorry--I was being sarcastic up there; actually, I tend to find emotionally
secure and available people more interesting, but those that I have a fair
amount in common with emotionally tend to be seeking someone who isn't
emotionally secure and available, in part because there's not enough 
challenge or excitement in someone who is. 

>If you don;t think emotionally secure and available people offer you any 
>romantic challenges, then try seducing one. Try finding out if you
>are as emotionally secure as they are. I think I hit on it.

I don't know if this is a particularly meaningful test--most people are
not particularly difficult to seduce; garnering their romantic interest,
on the other hand, is much more difficult and lying in bed afterwards
with sexual partners talking about the people they're really interested
in loses its appeal after a while. 

>You're scared!

Trygve    (Eeeep!) 
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