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From: Gene Naftulyev <naft0001@student.ec.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Vlad?
X-Xxdate: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:05:40 GMT
Organization: U of M
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:03:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.024746.3272@nic.csu.net> Valentin Popescu,
vpopesc@opus.uucp writes:
>Vlad Tepes (read Tzepesh) was regarded by many as a national hero. He
>was distinguished in battle, and he ruled during a very difficult
>time. The country was surrounded by unfriendly countries (the

An interesting note of comparison about Vlad Tepes as seen by the people
of Wallachia and King Arthur of the Britain who was known as the Pen
Dragon, son of the Dragon. The cult of the Dragon was alive in Britain as
well as other parts of Europe and Arthur was seen as a great British
hero. It seems that Vlad Tepes was viewed similarly by his people at the
time he was alive, however hiustory is written by the winners, and the
Turks won.
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres,alt.horror
From: flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage)
Subject: Re: What an icky, icky movie. SPOILERS
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:17:41 GMT

Thanks, I really enjoied your little or big, attack of ffc, Dracula, and
agreed with every word you said!!!  It was one of the worse movies I
have ever seen.........excluding ISHTAR

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*       Spiritus Sanctus Anno Mundi:  Can you see me, are you near me?      *
* Can you hear me crying out for life?  Can you tell me, where's the glory? *
*     BLACK         **********************************      SABBATH         *
*******************  flar@iastate.edu (Brad Armitage)  **********************
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:38:57 EST
From: <SXZ104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampire the Masquerade

      A couple of friends and I have just finish reading the Masquerade books.
Since you have already played this RPG, we like some tips on how to start and
play this game. Any suggestion would be great help to us.
Thank you Elders for your help.

Anarch.
From: slqmr@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.exploding.kibo
Subject: The Big Bang.
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:45:50 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

The explosion was harsh yet gave way to the new existance of love slaves.

Newsgroups: alt.exploding.kibo,alt.religion.kibology,talk.bizarre
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: The Big Bang.
Followup-To: alt.religion.kibology
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:34:52 GMT

[alt.exploding.kibo]
In article <1992Nov17.194551.60968@cc.usu.edu> slqmr@cc.usu.edu writes:
>The explosion was harsh yet gave way to the new existance of love slaves.

had them, been one.

							-- K.

Newsgroups: alt.fractals,sci.fractals
From: modus@gagme.chi.il.us (Patrick M. Kane)
Subject: FDESIGN.ZIP
Originator: modus@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:45:16 GMT

I am looking for a IFS generation/design program called FDESIGN.  It is
described in the FRACTINT documentation.  If you have this program, or know
where I can obtain it (Besides Compu$erve), please drop me an e-mail.

Thanks!

Patrick Kane
modus@gagme.chi.il.us

Newsgroups: alt.fractals,sci.fractals
From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: FDESIGN.ZIP
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:37:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.004516.22147@gagme.chi.il.us> modus@gagme.chi.il.us (Patrick M. Kane) writes:
>I am looking for a IFS generation/design program called FDESIGN.  It is
>described in the FRACTINT documentation.  If you have this program, or know
>where I can obtain it (Besides Compu$erve), please drop me an e-mail.

It's on simtel20 in <msdos.fractal>.

Michael


-- 
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 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
Newsgroups: alt.fractals,sci.fractals
From: kniveton@zeus.swindon.rtsg.mot.com (Andy Kniveton)
Subject: Re: FDESIGN.ZIP
Organization: Motorola LTD
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:44:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.004516.22147@gagme.chi.il.us>, modus@gagme.chi.il.us (Patrick M. Kane) writes:
> I am looking for a IFS generation/design program called FDESIGN.  It is
> described in the FRACTINT documentation.  If you have this program, or know
> where I can obtain it (Besides Compu$erve), please drop me an e-mail.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Patrick Kane
> modus@gagme.chi.il.us
> 

Check out the following dir /msdos.nfs.sunet.se/graphics/ifs/fdesign on  pinus.slu.se 

Andy.
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Newsgroups: alt,alt.butt-keg.marmalade,alt.smouldering.dog.zone,soc.college
From: mag@wam.umd.edu (Spoony G)
Subject: Re: Tipper
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:23:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.020107.15018@news.columbia.edu> jsl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (J. Shawn Landres) writes:
>Mary Elizabeth. (Sorry to throw in the right answer, but . . . )
>
>
>
From: Bill.Carlson@p0.f18.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: What Did Judas Betray?
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:31:06 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/18.0 - Midrash, Denver CO

To: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu

 RAL> Date: 18 Nov 92 14:09:46 GMT
 RAL> Organization: Johns Hopkins University
 RAL> Message-ID: <9211181409.AA18474@aplpy.jhuapl.edu>
 RAL> Newsgroups: alt.messianic
 
           -=> Quoting Robert A. Levene to Bill Carlson <=-

 RAL> Bill, would you please define some of your terms for the
 RAL> readership, who might not be familiar with your terminology?
 RAL> 
 RAL> "bubba-micer"
 RAL> "Rabbinim"
 RAL> "Chabbalistic"

      You're right, though most on here are probally familiar, some
      might not be...

Bubba-micer: Yiddish, old-wives tales; plural - bubbe-meises.

Rabbanim: Hebrew, plural of Rabbi, meaning: my great one -or- great one
of me.

Cabbalistic/Kabbalistic: Of or pertaining to the Cabbalah lit., (NOT
used in a neo-pagan sense), refering in particular the Zohar, and/or
those Orthodox Jews who regard such writings.

     Harvey has a more complete dictionary, perhaps he will see this
     and upload it here, might be a good idea.

... 012 And El*him said: Let Us make man in Our image, after Our... 210  
--  
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Newsgroups: alt.messianic
From: danl@col.hp.com (Daniel Lockhart)
Subject: Hebrew Language Tapes
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:49:28 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

I need help in finding Audio tapes to go with the following books

Biblical Hebrew : Manahem Mansoor
Hebrew Through Prayer : Karen Trager Rossel

I am looking for a mail order location or someone willing to send the
material to me. I'm not having much luck finding material in Colorado.

Thanks
daniel
From: hfortuin@stellenbos.csir.co.za (Henri Fortuin)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Messianic Jews
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:19:21 GMT
Organization: CSIR
NNTP-Posting-Host: 146.64.23.72
Summary: What is a Messianic Jew ?
Keywords: Messianic, Jews, Christian
X-Disclaimer: The opinions expressed below are purely personal
X-Disclaimer: and in no way represent the official view of CSIR.

I have very recently been granted access to the INTERNET, and this 
newsgroup. I enjoy reading the current debate, but cannot fully appreciate 
it since I do not know enough about what separates the Messianics from the 
Talmudics. Could someone oblige me with the following information ?

i) What is a Messianic Jew ?

  a) Someone who believes in a future Messiah, as prophesied in the Torah ?
    [Does this include Chasidim ?]

  b) Someone who believes that Jesus/Yeshua is the Christ/Messiah ?

ii) How radically do your beliefs differ from mainstream Christianity :

   a) Nature of the Godhead : Is it a Trinity ?
   b) Is there an immortal soul, or do the dead sleep until resurrection ?
   c) Is the seventh day Sabbath still binding on recipients of the Holy
      Spirit of God ?
   d) Are the dietary laws still to be followed ?
   e) Are the annual Holy/High Days still to be observed ?
   f) Is the Passover to be observed only annually or more frequently ?
   g) Do you insist that the Hebrew names be used e.g. Yeshua=Jesus ?
   h) Is there an organised Messianic church ?
   i) How close in your beliefs are you to the Seventh-Day Adventists or 
      Worldwide Church of God (Plain Truth magazine) ?

ii) Who are your target audience ?  Talmudic Jews only ?

iii)Do you associate with other Christian churches in any way ?

Thanx from the tip of Africa,

Henri Fortuin
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
From: Bill.Carlson@p0.f18.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: What Did Judas Betray?
Date: 22 Nov 92 05:15:10 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/18.0 - Midrash, Denver CO

To: avi@eagle.imagen.com

 Av> Date: 17 Nov 92 00:06:43 GMT
 Av> Organization: none
 Av> Message-ID: <1992Nov17.000643.20381@imagen.com>
 Av> Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.messianic

 Av> Now if he were to abolish it, he would do what he did with the Law
 Av> of Sabbath (The man is the Lord of Sabbath and not vice versa,
 Av> which by the way abolished his credibility as the genuine Messiah)

     But your comment is not taking into consideration first century
     halachah:

        The Shabbat has been given for you, you were not given for the
        Shabbat. -Mekilta on Ex.31:13.   The Shabbat  has been  placed
        under you, you have not been placed under its authority. -Yoma
        85b.

      Thus, we see the Rabbanim make the same statements here and
      elsewhere concerning Shabbat!  Shabbat was given as a gift to man
      - and Shabbat was made for man, and not man for Shabbat - since
      Shabbat was made after man.  You say that Y'shua abolished the
      command, when all He did is appeal to the Torah account, and also
      that very halachah those P'rushim themselves were following!
      This in not logical.  Unless you think that particular halachah
      of the P'rushim itself was in error; nu?

... 012 Think not that I am come to annul the Torah or the Prophets: 210  
--  
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From: ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen)
Subject: Re: Humanism (personal experience)
Organization: University of Turku
	<1992Nov19.212119.44482@watson.ibm.com>
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:40:56

In article <1992Nov19.212119.44482@watson.ibm.com> strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) writes:
> There is also secular humanism, which is very like Jewish humanism
> except that God-language is replaced by more rationalist language.
                                          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

May I ask you one question: Do you believe in God ? 

- Laura
--
"They will say of me, 'In the LORD alone are righteousness and
strength.' All who have raged against him will come to him and
be put to shame. But in the LORD all the descendants of Israel
will be found righteous and will exult."       Yeshaya 45:24-25

"Achen Ata El mistater Elohei Israel Moshia."  Yeshaya 45:15
From: strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom)
Subject: Re: Humanism (personal experience)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 17:33:14 GMT
Organization: IBM Research

In article <1992Nov20.142316.41011@watson.ibm.com>, I wrote:
|> In article <LJMORLY.92Nov20114056@polaris.utu.fi>, ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen) writes:
|> |> In article <1992Nov19.212119.44482@watson.ibm.com> strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) writes:
|> |> > There is also secular humanism, which is very like Jewish humanism
|> |> > except that God-language is replaced by more rationalist language.
|> |>                                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|> |> 
|> |> May I ask you one question: Do you believe in God ? 
|> 
|> Yes.  That's why I'm a Jewish humanist.

Not to be confused with "Humanistic Judaism", which
is an agnostic/atheistic sect founded by Rabbi Sherwin Wine.

I meant instead the "Jewish humanism" definition discussed
earlier in this thread, in which God requires of us the duty
to improve the world for the sake of man.  This is a view
which I think all movements within Judaism share.

But with all these terms floating around, I thought
it would be safer to clarify.

-- 
Rob Strom, strom@watson.ibm.com, (914) 784-7641
IBM Research, 30 Saw Mill River Road, P.O. Box 704, Yorktown Heights, NY  10598
From: hem@maverick.col400.att.com (Hillel E. Markowitz)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Re: What Did Judas Betray?
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:40:35 GMT
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems
Originator: news@cbnewsf.cb.att.com

In article <141154.2B0FBDB3@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> Bill.Carlson@p0.f18.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Carlson) writes:
>To: avi@seal.imagen.com
>
> Av> was stoned or even killed in any way related to the Jews.
>
>     Actually, the account in Sanh. 43a, together with Ulla's comments,
>     do show a "Jewish" involvement.  However, that really isn't the
>     main contention I'd have.  Since we have manuscripts of the Brit
>     HaChadashah from about 130 AD (Rylands MS), along with major
>     portions of the New Testament from 200 AD (Beatty Papyri).  Along
>     with a first Century Mishnaic Hebrew Matthew, as well as various
>     late 1st and early 2nd century AD/Ce quotes of earlier
>     manuscripts, not to mention the early Syriac #30 manuscripts;
>     etc..  - Why should we heed obscure Talmidic writings from 467
>     years after the fact as any thing?  Unless you are viewing the
>     Talmudic accounts as absolutely 100% accurate as a historical
>     document on ancient history. - BUT... isn't that just exactly
>     what you accused us of doing?!  Further, if that be the case,
>     then why not take as valid a somewhat later writing, also written
>     by Jews, who did not care for either Messianic Believers or
>     Rabbinic Jews, as more objective:
>
>From the Karaite Anthology, by Leon Nemoy, Yale press, pgs. 50-51, 9...
>Next there appeared Yesua,  who  Rabbanites say was the son of Pandera;
>he is known as Jesus, the son of Mary.  He lived in the days of Joshua,
>the son  of  Perahiah,  who  is said to have been the maternal uncle of
>Jesus. The Rabbanites plotted against Jesus until they put him to death
>This took place in thereign  of  Augustus Ceasar,  the emperor of Rome,
>i.e.,at the time of the second Temple.{Jacov Al-Kirkisani,900's AD/CE.}

One minor detail.  Previous posts have pointed out that Rabbi
Yeshua ben Perachya lived circa 130 BCE.  If you are claiming
that the Karaite statement is more accurate, then you are saying
that the xian books are LESS likely to have been written by
witnesses.
From: Bill.Carlson@p0.f18.n104.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bill Carlson)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: What Did Judas Betray?
Date: 22 Nov 92 06:39:14 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/18.0 - Midrash, Denver CO

To: rsquires@cyclops.eece.unm.edu

 RS> Date: 20 Nov 92 14:47:51 GMT
 RS> Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
 RS> Message-ID: <6gnqg7l@lynx.unm.edu>
 RS> Newsgroups: sci.skeptic,alt.messianic
 RS> 
 RS> In article <1992Nov17.043358.16082@bony1.bony.com>

                    -=> Quoting Roger Squires <=-

 RS> I have the complete debate between myself and
 RS> a few other people from "The Historical Jesus" thread from
 RS> earlier this year, available for anyone who wishes a copy.
 RS> It specifically addresses the question of the authorship
 RS> of the Gospels and I include full citations for reference
 RS> works, and Roman works that mention Xtianity and Jesus that I
 RS> have read myself.  Appended to the thread is a copy of
 RS> Mr. Lippard's essay discussing OT prophecies of Jesus.
 RS> People are welcome to email me if they wish a copy of this
 RS> file. It makes for very interesting reading about a fascinating
 RS> subject. 

     Well..., if it is that good, why not upload it in an article
     here, or if it is too long, a couple at a time, or portions of
     it or something?

... 012 Think not that I am come to annul the Torah or the Prophets: 210      
--  
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From: strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom)
Subject: Re: Humanism (personal experience)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 14:23:16 GMT
Organization: IBM Research

In article <LJMORLY.92Nov20114056@polaris.utu.fi>, ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov19.212119.44482@watson.ibm.com> strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom) writes:
|> > There is also secular humanism, which is very like Jewish humanism
|> > except that God-language is replaced by more rationalist language.
|>                                           ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|> 
|> May I ask you one question: Do you believe in God ? 

Yes.  That's why I'm a Jewish humanist.

May I ask you one question:  Do you believe in Jewish humanism?
Why or why not?

-- 
Rob Strom, strom@watson.ibm.com, (914) 784-7641
IBM Research, 30 Saw Mill River Road, P.O. Box 704, Yorktown Heights, NY  10598
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay)
Subject: Re: An Old Question For Robert A. Levene
Organization: International Irony League -- Death before smileys!
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:24:25 GMT

In article <LJMORLY.92Nov14132428@polaris.utu.fi> ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen) writes:
>MB> Our rabbis tell us that when Messiah comes, He will establish peace on
>    earth.  When the real Savior comes, He will remove us from sin.  BUT A
>    SAVIOR WHO TAKES US OUT OF SIN WITHOUT TAKING THE SIN  OUT  OF  US  IS
>    REALLY NO SAVIOR AT ALL.  AND A MESSIAH WHO ESTABLISHES PEACE ON EARTH
>    WITHOUT FIRST ESTABLISHING PEACE IN OUR HEARTS IS REALLY NO MESSIAH AT
>    ALL.                                                                 

One is forced to the conclusion that since Jesus of Nazareth did
none of these four things, he is really no Messiah at all...
-- 
Andrew Michael Solovay    

"We know that Solovay is a misogynist and an idiot..."
                --Melinda Shore
From: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: Re: What Did Judas Betray?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 08:09:46 -0600
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


In article <141056.2B08257E@paranet.FIDONET.ORG> Bill Carlson writes:

>     Sorry, serious bubba-micer here!  The other "3" were written
...

Bill, would you please define some of your terms for the readership,
who might not be familiar with your terminology?

"bubba-micer"
"Rabbinim"
"Chabbalistic"

R

Newsgroups: alt.messianic
From: ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen)
Subject: Re: An Old Question For Robert A. Levene
Organization: University of Turku
	<LJMORLY.92Nov14132428@polaris.utu.fi>
	<1992Nov16.002425.26540@netcom.com>
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:38:55

In article <1992Nov16.002425.26540@netcom.com> solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay) writes:
> In article <LJMORLY.92Nov14132428@polaris.utu.fi> ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen) writes:
> >MB> Our rabbis tell us that when Messiah comes, He will establish peace on
> >    earth.  When the real Savior comes, He will remove us from sin.  BUT A
> >    SAVIOR WHO TAKES US OUT OF SIN WITHOUT TAKING THE SIN  OUT  OF  US  IS
> >    REALLY NO SAVIOR AT ALL.  AND A MESSIAH WHO ESTABLISHES PEACE ON EARTH
> >    WITHOUT FIRST ESTABLISHING PEACE IN OUR HEARTS IS REALLY NO MESSIAH AT
> >    ALL.                                                                 

> One is forced to the conclusion that since Jesus of Nazareth did
> none of these four things, he is really no Messiah at all...
 
Yeshua carried the sin of the world on the cross. He took all our sins
away and gives peace to those who accept his sacrifice. But you know, 
it's not always so easy to live according to what Yeshua taught; the 
old sinfull nature is in constant rebellion with the will of God. But 
if everybody in the world would accept Yeshua, there would be peace --
I mean really accept him and then live IN him, not just desperately 
try to keep the law. God is love and he wants to work through us, to
shear that love. No one is good in him/herself -- only God is perfect.
When Yeshua comes back he'll establish a lasting peace.

"Achen chalayenu hu nasa umach'ovenu svalam va'anachnu chashavnuhu
nagua muke Elohim umeune. VeHu mecholal mip'shaenu meduka meavonotenu
musar shlomenu alav uvachavurato nirpalanu." (Yeshaya 53: 4,5)
(I posted the NIV translation last week.)

> Andrew Michael Solovay    

> "We know that Solovay is a misogynist and an idiot..."
>                 --Melinda Shore

Nice to have new folks round here.      :-)

- Laura
--
"They will say of me, 'In the LORD alone are righteousness and
strength.' All who have raged against him will come to him and
be put to shame. But in the LORD all the descendants of Israel
will be found righteous and will exult."       Yeshaya 45:24-25

"Achen Ata El mistater Elohei Israel Moshia."  Yeshaya 45:15
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
From: ljmorly@polaris.utu.fi (Laura Johanna Manninen)
Subject: Re: An Old Question For Robert A. Levene
Organization: University of Turku
Distribution: alt
Date: 22 Nov 92 11:22:04

I wrote:

>> The reason to reject Yeshua was and always is the same: people think they
>> don't need any Saviour from outside, but think they can trust they own
>> "good works"...

Rob Levene replied:

>Jews pray to G-d to forgive our transgressions and save us from our enemies.

So, how does God forgive our transgressions ?

>The concept of "save us from original sin" is a Christian idea.

First we should define the concept of "original sin". It means separation
from God; the angel standing in front of Gan Eden with a flaming sword,
or the curtain between the Holy of Holies and the outside world. When 
dying on the cross, the Messiah Yeshua made it again possible for us to 
enter the precense of God. God is Holy and in his precense all dirt just
burns. In Yeshua we are clean. He is the atonement for all sins.

- Laura
--
"They will say of me, 'In the LORD alone are righteousness and
strength.' All who have raged against him will come to him and
be put to shame. But in the LORD all the descendants of Israel
will be found righteous and will exult."       Yeshaya 45:24-25

"Achen Ata El mistater Elohei Israel Moshia."  Yeshaya 45:15