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From: brad@intransit.tcs.com (Brad Whitaker)
Subject: Re: BOOTS!
Keywords: ME NEED BOOTS!
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:51:35 GMT

In article <17h69nINNs3t@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:
> 
> 	What kind of boots do you wear and WHERE did you get them?

I've had Corbin RoadMaster boots for several months now. Overall I think
they are great: very comfortable, offer good protection, well designed,
and good quality materials.  Despite this, my particular pair wasn't
"finished" very well: some of the leather pieces don't quite line up
properly. I got them at RoadRider in San Jose. I think they cost $179.
(This was about $10 less than list.)

> 	Any preferences for pullon/laceon boots?

I wore lace up combat boots for about a year. They worked fine and were
comfortable, but I get fed up with the time it took to put them on and
take them off. If you get lace ups, make sure the laces are tucked away
so that they can't get caught on the bike!  The Corbin boots use a 
zipper (which has leather cover with velcro.) The pull-on, zip-up, velcro
shut Corbins are much more convenient than the lace-up combat boots.

Brad Whitaker  Teknekron Communication Systems, Inc.   Berkeley, CA USA
brad@tcs.com             (510)649-3815                        DoD #1000
"If the line wiggles, that's good."   Robert Pirsig           CBR  1000
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: where to go for yamaha service
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:09:51 GMT

pmercer@apple.com (Paul Mercer) writes:

>In article <la9thqINNgfh@spim.mips.com>, jackc@vermont.mips.com (Jack
>Choquette) wrote:
>> 
>> I've been following the post on honda service but many places seem to
>> limit themselves to just honda.  Does anyone know where to go for 
>> inexpensive but good service for yamahas or motorcycles in general?

Well, I haven't really taken the yamaha in fo rservice , but Grand
Prix on El Camino near San Tomas found a really strange problem on my
Concours, and was very straight forward in his explanation and
suggested solution. I've dealt with Pete, the service manager, and
he's as good as they get. IMHO.

By the way, they are a Yamaha shop too.

One other point, Yamaha requires a diagnostic machine for tune ups,
which uses a sniffer for carburation diags. GP has come up with a set
of guidelines to use the same diag equipment on the Kawasaki's. 
>> 
>> /jack

>I second the motion.  I ride Ducati 907ie

Brad Turner seems to be happy with Monroe Motors in SF for his 907.

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'72 1000cc Sportster.....'Ol Sport               DoD # 055
^^^^^^^^^^^It *LIVES*!^^^^^^^^^^^^              AMA #524245
                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
Two Jousts and a Gather, *BIG fun!*            (H. Lewis)
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From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: i'm sick and tired of this!
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:57:44 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <4!bn09a.rbp@netcom.com>, rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker) wrote:
> 
> all this spaglethorpe bashing has gone too far!!! i'm sick and tired of
> non-spaglethorpers who dont understand the lifestyle.  i vote we start
> ba.motorcycles.spaglethorpe!!!
> -- 
> --- bob pasker
> ---- rbp@netcom.com

So you traded the bumblebee for a Spagthorpe?

========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Interceptor 1987, "Bright White" 
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
========
From: MGB@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Leathers
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:43:48 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

If anyone is interested in quality leathers for very reasonable
prices... I have purchased both a leather motorcycle jacket
and leather chaps - not pieced leather but one piece - for
$100 per. The quality is excellent .. the place is in Ensenada Baja Ca.
He does ship to the US tho, and uses only U.S. hides - says that
Mexican cattle are inferior.  If anyone is interested, drop me a line
and I'll dig out his card.  I've had the chaps for over 3 years and
just bought the jacket, but it is the best $200 that I've ever spent..

Michael
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: tires (was Re: misc. ramblings)
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:38:12 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <qybnfjm.blave@netcom.com>, blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins) writes:
>PS I'm probably going to go
> for Metzler (sp?) ME33 front/ME99 rear.  Any naysayers?

i've never run an ME99 rear, but i have run the 55 and the 88.  the 55
has dual-compound: stick stuff on the sides, long-wearing stuff in 
the center.  the 88 is my tire of choice, but then again some say its
because its a <non-sportbike>, otherwise i'd be getting sportmaxi or
somesuch nonesense.  blaine gardener just got an me88 (marathon, cause
they bill it as their touring tire) for his FJ and he's quite happy 
with it.  when he was here in the ba looking for an 88 to fit his 
rear, one of the places we called said, "an me88 on an fj, are you 
sure?  that tire is for low-horsepower applications."  ymmv, as they
say.

the 55 was supposed to be an updated version of the 99, i.e. newer
compound and tread design.  i got seriously quick lousy weare from the 
55 on my k75s: about 3500 miles. the 88s wore better on that bike (till
i crashed it :), and i'm getting 8k out of an 88.

[one would think that there would be an FAQ on tires by now]

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a good leather/aerostitch jacket
Date: 31 Aug 92 03:30:32 GMT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <1992Aug28.173116.10334@tcsi.com>, gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu) writes:
>      As Dan pointed out, Road Rider in San Jose has ten times as much
> as anyone else I've seen.  I've been real picky and am still looking
> for jacket and pants myself.  Golden Gate Cycles hasn't nearly the same
> selection.  I've also been to alot of hole in the wall places out here
> in the East Bay.

there are also two custom leather places (z leathers in the ba and
langlitz in oregon).  z leathers caters more to the sport bike crowd;
their catalog is full of very attractive sport bike leather designs,
and they say they'll make you leathers to match your bike if you bring
it to them.  (one of my femme rider friends has some absolutely
knockout purple street-bike boots from z; they cost her $30 more than
my plain black engineer boots cost me.)  langlitz reputedly makes the
best-fitting woman's jacket in the world (we'll see--it's a 6-mo
wait--mine's due to arrive in october).  prices for neither place are
much higher (if any) than buying stock off the rack. 

-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: where to go for honda service
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:26:54
Distribution: ba


My cb750 needs its 8000 mile service.  Where should I go/avoid?  Is
Penn. Honda really the ripoff joint people claim it to be?

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
           '91 CB750, soon to be replaced by a '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Am I the first?
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:32:50 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <p1djee4@twilight.wpd.sgi.com>, ian@lassen.wpd.sgi.com (Ian
Clements) wrote:
> 
> 
>  Yeah!  Ask and ye shall receive!

Made it ahead of me, anyway!

Now wasn't that simpler than the rec.moto.h nonsense? >%^)
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
========
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Looking for non-anal-retentive moto examiner
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 06:50:09 GMT

I'm getting close to taking my "skills test", as they call the stupid
little circle (that's OK) that you're supposed to ride at 5 mph (that's
the stupid part). If they'd just say "go slow and ride the circle" I'd
be fine, but trying to keep it right around 5 mph is murder.

Anybody recommend a DMV location that is fairly reasonable about the
skills test? I'm not looking for a rubber stamp, just an examiner who
is reasonable.
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From: paul62@netcom.com (Paul Kalenda)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Looking for non-anal-retentive moto examiner
Date: 30 Aug 92 15:38:19 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

From article <1992Aug28.065009.4923@adobe.com>, by cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson):
> I'm getting close to taking my "skills test", as they call the stupid
> little circle (that's OK) that you're supposed to ride at 5 mph (that's
> the stupid part). If they'd just say "go slow and ride the circle" I'd
> be fine, but trying to keep it right around 5 mph is murder.
> 
> Anybody recommend a DMV location that is fairly reasonable about the
> skills test? I'm not looking for a rubber stamp, just an examiner who
> is reasonable.

Try Alma street in San Jose...They have you do exactly what is spelled out in
their manual, nothing more.  Unlike the Flora Vista station in SantxDa 
Clara, where they apparently don't think the manual's test is hard enough...
...take a extra pass around, okdo it the other way, stand on your head, etc.ZZ
From: kessler@sluggo.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Virtual Bob Kessler)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Looking for non-anal-retentive moto examiner
Date: 28 Aug 92 01:00:22
Organization: Rocket Scientists Anonymous
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: sluggo
In-reply-to: cjackson@adobe.com's message of Fri, 28 Aug 1992 06:50:09 GMT


Well I don't know about reasonable but I took my beammmerrrr (750 lbs of
rider, cast aluminyium, gas, and steel), over to the DMV on showers street in 
Mt. View (~5 months ago) and probably could have passed the test carrying 
the bike on my back.  I had to wait a bit and was quite sobered by how
they were doing the regular drivers test (maybe that's part of the
motorcycle test :-), if you don't run away on foot vowing never to go near
a highway again you pass the first part.

Anyway the test consisted of:

DMV guy) Uh, hi I'm Ray, big bike ya got there.

Me) Uh, yup.

DMV guy) Uh, Ok Tom, how about weaving between these funny dots and
         trying to go around the circle with the front wheel in between
	 the lines.  Don't worry too much about putting your foot down,
	 or going the wrong way, or getting a little outside of the circle
	 cuz it's only a few points off for that stuff.

Me) Uh, OK

DMV guy)  Well the was pretty good, end of the circle get's kinda close to
          the fence doesn't it.  hah, hah, yup, we like to throw a few
	  curves in there.  Oh ma gawd, I forgot to ask whether you have
	  insurance.  Oh, well.

Me) Oh yeah no problem.

DMV guy)  Oh, good

DMV guy) OK now this is the part we call the crash test Tom, ha, ha, just
	 a little humor there. Now I want you to ride around the building and 
	 come down this straight part of the driveway here.  Be sure to 
	 shift up at least 2 gears in the straight part.  Now here's the 
	 tricky part, you're supposed to come a complete stop in the circle 
	 without breaking before you get to the funny dots here.  Don't
         worry though, most everybody who manages to stop before they hit
	 the fence passes.

Me) OK Ray.

DMV guy) Whoa! that was good, I think you're the first guy this week who
	 actually stopped in the circle.

Me) Thanks Ray

DMV guy) OK, here take this piece of paper into line 7 inside and they'll
	 get you your license.

Me) Gee, thanks Ray.
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a good leather/aerostitch jacket
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:12:41 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1992Aug26.150206.25269@tcsi.com>, vijay@phaedrus.tcs.com (Vijay
Manwani) wrote:
> 
> I am looking to buy a riding jacket (and pants) around San Francisco or Berkeley.
> Any suggestions on
> 
> 1.	Where to buy one ?
> 2. 	What to buy ?
> 3. 	Is it better to mail order one ?
> 
Aerostich is only sold mail order from Rider Wearhouse.. catch their ads in

all the magazines. They do an excellent job.

Helimot in San Jose sells one and two piece racing style leathers, either
off the shelf or custom fitted. Helmut is a great guy and will help you
out any way he can. He distributes Held gloves as well, which are really
nice.

Buying mail order from Langlitz or Bates has worked well in the past, but 
if you can find a good local moto shop that has what you want, it's really 
nice to try on the individual piece you want to buy. There are a lot in 
the bay area: Zoom, Just Leathers, all the dealers. 
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
========
From: markb@wc.novell.com (Mark S. Burnham)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: where to go for yamaha service
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:28:20 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <pmercer-030992004244@kip-15.apple.com>, pmercer@apple.com (Paul Mercer) writes:
> 
> In article <la9thqINNgfh@spim.mips.com>, jackc@vermont.mips.com (Jack
> Choquette) wrote:
> > 
> > I've been following the post on honda service but many places seem to
> > limit themselves to just honda.  Does anyone know where to go for 
> > inexpensive but good service for yamahas or motorcycles in general?
> > 
> > /jack
> 
> I second the motion.  I ride Ducati 907ie
For good Ducati service, you could try Munroe Motors in SF on Valencia.
I've talked to Pat Munroe several times, and he seems to be "a real nice
guy".  I've heard their service is very good too.

I called about a bike (Paso) in the paper several months ago, and the seller
recommended someone named "Les Blumeling" in South SF. I guess he's an
independent mechanic who works on Ducati.  I've never talked to him, but 
you could try him.  His number is: (415) 871-4010.

- Mark Burnham, Novell Inc.  (markb@wc.novell.com)

> 
> Paul Mercer
> Apple Computer, Inc.
> No time for a disclaimer
> 
>
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Where do I buy a CBR900RR?
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:28:30 GMT
Followup-To: ba.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <wallich.714860356@pepper>, wallich@iti.org (Kenneth Wallich)
wrote:
> [ a whole bit of realistically good stuff]

I've got only limited faith in Penin Honda's service department, good 
experience with their parts dept., and am fairly skeptical on the sales
crew. 

However, in fairness, when I toyed with the idea of buying a new VFR750
a few weeks back, once I managed to short circuit the horseshit and told 
them how much I would pay for a bike, they gave me a straight quote that
was competitive with all the others I had gotten. I didn't enjoy the fact 
that I'd have to short circuit the horseshit all the time.

Regarding the rather squalid 'rider comradeship' that these places tend 
to have... it's a problem. Their business has to cater to a much broader
spectrum of people than the euro/hd dealer crowd does. They get all the 
weenies, parents with moto jockey hopeful kids, sport squids, penurious 
tweakers who live on dime budgets and don't care what the hell their bike
is like, posers and other silliness. I worked for a dealership ... it gets
real hard to take after a time. And for every good 'cyclist who you would 
like to build a relationship, you see ten goofballs who you just wish would
leave the planet for a quiet vacation on Mercury.

The BMW, HD, Ducati, etc. centers have a much smaller clientele, more money
in general, typically more committed and older, typically better educated.
Most of the customers have been repeat buyers of the marque for years.
Yeah,
there are still goofballs, but it's only 1 in 3, not 10 to 1, so it's
easier
to build the relationships.
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
========
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: rocky@cylink.COM (Rocky Kabotsky)
Subject: FOR SALE: '91 Suzuki BANDIT
Organization: Cylink Corp.
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:03:59 GMT

Hey people! I've got a '91 Suzuki Bandit to sell. Low miles, excellent
maintenance record, fun and easy to ride. Great starter bike, second bike,
or something different. $2900 (or best offer).  I'm buying a house and can't
keep two bikes anymore. Your heart bleeds for me, right? :-)

If you want more info, please RESPOND VIA E-MAIL to rocky@cylink.com
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Looking for non-anal-retentive moto examiner
Date: 1 Sep 92 02:25:53 GMT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <l9snruINNmlg@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM (elaine 'BEANO' leffler) writes:
> never mind me, anyway - i'm just mad because the license plates i wanted
> for my bike are taken - i know someone out there with a hurricane has
> NOTAGUY, but i was bummed to find out NOTABOY was ALSO taken.  sigh.

how about NOTABENE?

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: max@queernet.org (Max J. Rochlin)
Subject: Re: where to go for honda service
Organization: QueerNet
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 01:53:45 GMT

jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:


>My cb750 needs its 8000 mile service.  Where should I go/avoid?  Is
>Penn. Honda really the ripoff joint people claim it to be?

I've been happy with the service at RedwoodCity Honda on El Camino Real.
The service guy there seems to be exellent and the prices seem reasonable
as well ( for a dealership).

...Max

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|  max@queernet.org  |   Max J. Rochlin   |  {uunet,mips,decwrl}!unpc!max  |
+--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
|      If everything is coming your way then you're in the wrong lane.     |
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: Loans for new motorcycle.
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:46:31 GMT

In article <MAYER.92Aug26094927@porky.sono.uucp>, mayer@sono.uucp (Ron Mayer) writes:
> 
> In coming up with the other $3500, I looked into financing from the
> dealer, a credit union, and my bank.  Strangely, at least according to
> friends who financed cars, the dealer had the best rate.  Is there any
> reason against financing through the dealer?

     Be sure the rate quoted really is the rate.  I had a car dealer back
in Jersey *quote* me 13.9 % once.  Talking things over with my Dad, he
thought the monthly payment sounded high, so he checked the rate back
from there, and came up with 15%.  F*ing slimeball.

> Also, when buying a new bike, how negotiable are the prices?

     I've never bought a bike from a dealer, but from the stories told
on the net, the price is negotiable at some dealers, depending upon the
supply and demand for the bike.  At least with that slimeball mentioned
above, the rate was negotiable too.

							George


----
George J Wu, Software Engineer         | gwu@tcs.com or uunet!tcs!gwu
Teknekron Communications Systems, Inc. | (510) 649-3700
2121 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA, 94704  | Never be the first to believe . . .
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Where can I buy a good leather/aerostitch jacket
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:19:37 GMT

In article <ramarren-290892075647@kip-4.apple.com> ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi) writes:
>
>As to Corbin, I called to price a seat for my Hawk GT. They didn't have
>one in stock at the time and told me it would be 5 weeks. I sighed and 
>said ok. The seat arrived 6 days later, with personal note saying that
>the order taker felt my need for a better seat sounded fairly important
>so they rushed it for me. (I could not ride the Hawk without a better
>seat... my hip wouldn't work on the stocker, so I couldn't put my 
>foot on the peg.) I was fairly delighted.
>
>Is it just me?

Maybe you just sound more desperate than the rest of us. :-)

I got my Corbin (a custom one, too) faster than they'd promised.
I was ambivalent about it when I first got it, but after
2k miles or so, everything seemed to click and now I really like it.



--
  Eric Murray                                             ericm@microunity.com
    This package contains one (1) Usenet news posting.  Do not eat.
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones)
Subject: Re: i'm sick and tired of this!
Keywords: silly boy can you swim
Organization: Caere Corp.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:05:21 GMT

tcox@netcom.com (Thomas Cox) writes:
>So, who's gonna organize a ride up to Alice's for Saturday 29-Sept?

29-Sept is a Tuesday.  :)   And Sept 26 and 27 is the ERC ...

But we can throw a symbolic Spaglethorpe off the Dumbarton if you like ...

Mojo
-- 
Morris Jones
Caere Corp.
mojo@caere.com
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Modem Cycle II BBS
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 22:42:49 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

denis@apldbio.com (Denis Concordel) writes:

>For those with access to a modem, you might want to try to connect with
>ModemCycle II BBS (637 9876). It's a free access BBS dedicated to 

Area code?  There are at least 4 area codes in the Bay Area:
510, 707, 408, and 415.

later, david
--
David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com     DoD#1113
They who give have all things; they who withhold have nothing.  
                      -- Hindu proverb