From: dwatts@ki.com (Dan Watts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: mac network copy from 4ddn 4.0.4 fails - machine type "dec" ?
Keywords: dec macintosh network copy 4ddn 4.0.4
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:17:12 GMT
Organization: ki Research, Inc

In article <1992Aug18.225342.21658@news.csd.sgi.com> niblett@lodi.csd.sgi.com (Ray Niblett) writes:
|In article <1230@ki.com>, dwatts@ki.com (Dan Watts) writes:
||> In article <1992Aug11.220507.26055@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz> raymond@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz ( Raymond W L Martin) writes:
||> |raymond@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz ( Raymond W L Martin) writes:
||> |
||> |>Has anyone noticed that 4ddn on irix 4.0.4 advertises itself as a system type
||> |>DEC.  When using "network copy" from a macintosh a users reports that he
||> |>can list and select files on our 4d/240D but the copy fails. 
||> |
||> |THIS IS NOT CAUSED BY kinet lat v4.3 R11 beta as I previously thought.
||> |
||> |OK for the sake of honesty I must now eat crow.  We have removed kinet lat R11 
||> |v4.3 form our 4d/240 and the problem still stands.  However we are leaving it
||> |off because it corrupted our /etc/wtmp file.  So the only factor to change was
||> |IRIX 4.0.1 to IRIX 4.0.4.  We hope the upgrade to IRIX 4.0.5 will fix it.
||> |
||> |    Ray Martin
||> |    Computer Centre
||> |    University of Auckland
||> 
||> 
||> As a further followup to this posting, Ray Martin, Jim Greenslade and I have
||> determined what the real cause of his problem is.  The MAC NetCopy software
||> [DECnet sold by DEC] is incorrectly identifying the Irix system as a VMS
||> system.  Because of this, it creates VMS style pathnames for it's file
||> requests.  The SGI 4DDN product however can't handle VMS pathnames.  It
||> appears that something in 4DDN changed in the upgrade to 4.0.4.  If Ray had
||> been using the kiNET DECnet product [openDNA] on the Irix system, he would
||> not have had this problem.  openDNA supports VMS pathname syntax in addition
||> to standard Unix pathname syntax and would have worked just fine with the
||> MAC NetCopy software.
|
|
|4DDN does support VMS path names.  I can do this on my system:
|
|lodi 223% dnls 'lodi::usr:[bin]'
|
|Directory LODI::/usr/bin/
|
|CC           ct           fsplit       ndx          regcmp       under         
|X11          ctags        fx           neqn         rpcgen       uniq          
|apropos      ctrace       getopt       newform      rup          units         
|ar           cu           grap         news         rusers       unpack        
|as           cut          groups       nl           sar          uucp          
|asa          cxref        hyphen       nm           sdiff        uulog         
|at           dbx          id           nroff        size         uuname        
|awk          dc           infocmp      oawk         soelim       uupick        
|.
|.
|.
|Or from a vax: COPY LODI::USR:[TMP]FILE.DAT *
|
|I'd be curious to see the format of the VMS file names that the MAC uses.
|
|Ray Niblett  
|PSE, Silicon Graphics
|niblett@sgi.com

I'll forward your email on to Ray and see if he can find out.  I was
basing my response upon what the customer told me.
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