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From: haarlem@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl (M.P. van Haarlem)
Subject: [Q] Linux and Notebooks
Keywords: Linux, notebooks
Organization: Leiden University, Netherlands
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:50:38 GMT


Hello people,

I am thinking about buying a notebook and plan to run Linux on it. I
have not yet decided which one. At the moment I am leaning towards a
486SX or DX, 8Mb, Mono, 120+Mb HD. I have some info on the IBM
ThinkPad 700, Texas Instr. 4000 Series and Toshiba 4400 SXL. Does
anybody out there have any experience with these machines and Linux.
(Perhaps a naive question, but is the IBM TrackPoint of any use under
Linux). 

What about other (cheaper) notebooks. I have noticed that in the 486 
range there are not nearly as many available in the Netherlands as in
places like the UK or US. Has anybody failed in installing Linux on 
any notebook.

Answers either to the net (I'm sure quite a lot of people are interested
and most of the previous questions relating to notebooks and Linux have
never been summarised. If I get enough responses I'll post a summary.) 
or to  ...  haarlem@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl

Thanks,
Michiel

--
Michiel van Haarlem, Leiden Observatory, haarlem@rulcvx.LeidenUniv.nl
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wyvern@gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Wyvern)
Subject: Shadow passwords and xdm/ftpd
Organization: Free Software Foundation
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:56:55 GMT

Has anyone had any luck getting either xdm or ftpd to work with
the shadow password package? I tried recompiling xdm with the
original sources + linux diffs with -DUSESHADOW, but upon
a user logging in, something strange happens (for one thing
olvwm won't source the .openwin-menu file properly - I think
this has something to do with it not finding the right user)
and it executes an xterm, which also fails after a second or two
and you are returned to the xdm login prompt.
And yes, I do have the xdm startup files configured correctly,
because the xdm that comes with XFree86 has had no problems.

Also, ftp/ftpd won't work correctly with shadow passwords,
although I modified the routine in ftpd that gets the password via
getpwnam() to use getspnam() instead. With or without
this change ftp locks up immediately after the username is
entered. You can kill it externally or by sending SIGQUIT,
but this leaves an ftpd process lying around.


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: 'Special' keys not working in DOS Emulator
Keywords: keyboard, emulator, dos, linux
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:22:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.172517.25575@midway.uchicago.edu> ace3@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>I have been playing with the DOS emulator v 0.4 (kernel version 98.6);
>it's really amazing -- nice work!!
>
> [...]
> none of the special keys generate the
>correct response under the DOS emulator.  (A special key is
>Alt-anything, the cursor pad keys and the function keys).  All the the
>keys I've tried seem to generate ESC[<letter>.  I thought this might be
>caused by running under an xterm so I tried it outside of X and had the
>same response.  Looking through the code, it seems that Alt keys and
>such are expected and should work, so what's going on??
>
>I have the US keyboard defined in kernel Makefile and DO NOT define the
>Latin keyboard define in the emulator makefile.  

Normally, function keys etc. generate escape sequences.  For the DOS
emulator to work, it has to bypass the normal keybaord driver in the
kernel, and get the keys directly.  Of course, this means nothing can
be piped to the emulator.

I would recommend adding a function to the kernel (perhaps there
already is one?) to return to true state of the keyboard, and then
modifying the emulator to use that.  Of course, the kernel itself uses
Alt-<fn key>, so there would have to be an alternative way of
returning that (for use with WordPerfect, e.g.).  

-Joel
(joel@wam.umd.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hwangs@uk.ac.man.cs (Suntae Hwang (IW Ph.D.))
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Question: has anyone ported SML?
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:22:48 GMT
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, Univ. Manchester, UK
In-reply-to: shachar@ramon.bgu.ac.il's message of 14 Dec 92 12:44:48 GMT

Yes, you can find one in "ftp.dcs.glasgow.ac.uk".

Suntae Hwang
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: UUCP strange problem..
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:00:30 GMT

ARIT ISMAIL (iarit@slate.mines.colorado.edu) wrote:

: Here is my /usr/lib/uucp dir;
: 
: Devices      Permissions  paths        uucico       uuxqt
: Dialers      Systems      uuchk        uucico.old   uuxqt.old

An "ls -al" would have been more helpful, here.

: uucp tara (12/13-17:38:32,1417,0) ERROR: fopen (/usr/lib/uucp/Dialers): No
: such
:  file or directory

Make sure that everything in /usr/lib/uucp is owned by uucp, including the
directory itself.
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

Who and what would you be if you went beyond your deepest fears?
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: arumble@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Anthony Rumble)
Subject: XFree86 Mouse became junpy after memory upgrade?????
Keywords: X-11, Linux, Mouse
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:28:35 GMT

I had been running XFree86 for about 3 weeks without any problem
in 4 megs (Other then the speed)..  

Anyway.. I just installed another 4 1Meg SIMM's into the computer
and X is much better since it isint swapping, *BUT*
Now.. Suddenly! THe mouse pointer is jumpy?? As thought
there was something running in kernal space ever few miliseconds that
made the mouse Jump????

Any ideas? Has anyone saeen this before??

I am running XFree86-1.1 and Linux version 0.98 pl 0..
(I haven't upgraded yet because too many things break and I don't
have time to recompile them..)


-- 
Anthony Rumble
aka SmilieZ
"Anything is possible.. If there is enuf money in it"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: arl@cs.hut.fi (Ari Lemmke)
Subject: Re: PCNFSD for Linux
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:46:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.060713.19867@samba.oit.unc.edu> jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid) writes:
:   In article <702.404.uupcb@hpbs938.boi.hp.com> ed.boston%phant@hpbs938.boi.hp.com (Ed Boston)  writes:
:   >Does anyone know if there is a PCNFSD available for Linux?  I have been
:   >watching some of the discussions of Linux and would like to set it up,
:   >but I would need this ability for my needs.

	If someone writes pcnfsd ;-)

:   I'll assume PCNFS is some sort of MS-DOS version of NFS...

	Yes and more .. pcnfsd handles also printing (aaargh).

:   correctly, you need to be able to use a Linux box as a NFS file server?  
:   Well there is a ALPHA-BETA nfsd for linux... It seems to be pretty stable
:   and support for it is included in the SLS distribution.  

	No .. I'm not sure if it will work with pcnfs, I doubt.
	Even though I have pcnfs kit (something old 2.x), I haven't
	checked does it have source code also - they say it has
	sources for pcnfsd. Then it would be only porting job,
	I'm not sure if one is allowed to distribute the code ...
	but if someone ports it to Linux, then patches could
	be distributed.

:   jem.

	arl
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: hns@regent.e-technik.tu-muenchen.dbp.de (Henning Spruth)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: laptop recommendations for Linux
Organization: Technical University of Munich, Germany
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:17:20 GMT

murray@chemeng.ed.ac.uk (Murray Laing) writes:

>Hi, just a simple ;-) question ...

>I work on Suns with X11R5 and OL using epoch heavily. I am considering
>buying a 386 laptop to help me work at home, which I intend to mount
>Linux on. Any recommendations?

I've been using linux on a TI travelmate 3000 (386SX/20MHz/40MB disk)
for a few months now - its not a very fast or big system (compared to
a 486DX 8-) ) but it can do anything I need, even X with good
performance. A friend wrote a small program to switch clock frequencies,
and we even were able to make the external monitor work under X
(in monochrome).

Henning

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Technical University of Munich, Germany
From: eec@po.CWRU.Edu (Edward E. Conroy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Trident Card Woes
Date: 21 Dec 1992 05:16:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


I too am trying to get X window to come up on a TVGA card. I've
been trying for about a week now, and I've had no success. I have
not even gotten the monochrome mode to work. I really have no idea
how to go about doing this. I downloaded the FAQ sheets, and they
were helpful in setting up Linux, but not very helpful in solving
my X problems. Can anyone suggest a good installation guide? Or
does anyone have any suggestions that might help?
-- 
Edward E. Conroy
Assistant System Manager               Work Phone: (216)368-2971
Macromolecular Spectroscopy Group      E-mail: conroy@cwmac2.emac.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pratten@csd.uwo.ca (A Warren Pratten)
Subject: Re: Brilliant idea: Linux as Homework!
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:14:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.225730.3162@tc.cornell.edu> kutcha@eos.acm.rpi.edu (Phillip Rzewski) writes:
>
>    At Siena College where I go we have talked our OpSys
>prof into ordering a 486 with 120 megs of disk space so we can put Linux on
>it. After installing SLS and letting him get a feel for it, I'll probably
>offer to port all his current software for OpSys lab over to Linux, in return
>for independent study credit over the summer. And, of course, since he thinks
>I'm such a cool guy, he'll be very much into the idea.
>
>    Provided he likes Linux when we install it. The machine is still in the
>mail. But mark my words, it will arrive. I'm sure if everything works out
>and there is a room full of OpSys students using Linux next year I'll post
>a big success story message here about it.
>

I was telling one of the profs here (at the University of Western Ontario)
about Linux and suggested that it would make an ideal basis for an Operation 
Systems course especially since the source code is available.  He seemed keen 
on the idea but whether that translates into action remains to be seen.

In the mean time I am working on the CompSci students here to give Linux a
try.

-- 
A Warren Pratten
Email: Pratten@csd.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jaatine@tutka.uku.fi (Kai Jaatinen)
Subject: Dvi-driver for Deskjet ?
Date: 19 Dec 92 09:57:12 GMT
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland

Is there a dvi-driver for Deskjet ?

Neither dvi2lj2 nor dvi2lj2p seem to work.


--
Kai Jaatinen                 |          "Life is hard then you die."
email: jaatine@tutka.uku.fi  |     - Ltn. Dempsey in Dempsey&Makepeace -
From: Simon.Janes@f370.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Simon Janes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Root Login Refused On Some Terminals, Can 
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:58:00 -0800

There is a file called /etc/securetty that lists all of the "trusted" 
terminals to allow root logins. If you try and login as root from a 
terminal not listed in /etc/securetty login will not allow you to 
login.
 
Simon

 * Origin: My UnKnown BBS - Alexandria VA * 703-780-6890 V.32bis
(1:109/370)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Sten M. Drescher <smd@hrt216.brooks.af.mil>
Subject: Re: MONEY + Linux
Organization: AL/HRTI, Brooks AFB
	<1992Dec17.232925.6334@midway.uchicago.edu>
	<PK.92Dec18161601@talitiainen.cs.tut.fi>
	<1992Dec18.221010.2896@Princeton.EDU>
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:01:51 GMT

	OK, in line with this discussion, here's our situation.  We've
contracted with a lab in California to write a new training package for
us.  They've decided to build it in Unix, specifically, SCO ODT.  We're
going to need do distribute the package to several test sites, and we
don't want to have to tell them that they need to spend $1000 a machine
in order to get an OS to run it under (US residents - these would be
YOUR tax dollars being spent).  After looking at Linux, I'd like to be
able to present Linux as an alternative, but there are 2 problems:
	1) We need to get RougeWave's TOOLS.H++ to compile with gcc
(they've given up on it).
	2) We need someone to provide tech support for Linux.  We expect
to get a certain amount of Unix-related questions along with problems
relating to out package, just as we get DOS questions on our current
package, but we don't have the personnel to provide full tech support
for Linux.  Does anyone know of anyone who can provide this service, and
if so, would you e-mail me their name, smail address, and phone #?
-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------
Sten Drescher                  | There are men who seem like more than men.
2709 13th St #1248             | Living examples of what we could be if we
Brooks AFB, TX 78235-5224      | tried.  They are men of courage, compassion,
-------------------------------+ and justice.  On the other hand, there are
sdrescher@animal.brooks.af.mil | presidential candidates.
-------------------------------+---------------------------------------------
Looking for Marvel Masterpieces promo cards - email with offers.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Reposting announcements
Organization: The Linux Inquisition, Propaganda Division
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:49:40 GMT

I've seen a few announcements posted to comp.os.linux
that wern't crossposted to comp.os.linux.announce. Unless
there are objections, I'd like to just snarf these articles
and repost them to c.o.l.a as I run across them. If the new
group is going to work, we need to get the announcements into
it. Agreed? 

We're also contemplating splitting comp.os.linux and 
comp.os.linux.announce completely, to reduce bandwidth (since 
currently I crosspost everything from c.o.l.a to c.o.l as well). 
I've been assured that there IS a Fidonet gateway that can be 
used for comp.os.linux.announce, and all that it would require 
would be to configure it and make it available, so the
Fidonet people wouldn't get duped. 

Any suggestions or comments about these things? If we don't
crosspost everything between c.o.l.a and c.o.l, it would save
a lot of bandwidth and diskspace for those systems that are
tight on diskspace. And since there is apparently an easy way
for Fidonet to pick up the new group, I think it's an okay
idea. Of course we'd wait until comp.os.linux.announce 
propagates more completely.

Thanks,
mdw

-- 
Matt Welsh     mdw@tc.cornell.edu     Cornell Theory Center
  "Go on, emote! I was raised on thought balloons!"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ernie@woody.apana.org.au
Subject: elm 2.4pl17
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 17:42:30 GMT


Has anyone managed to get elm2.4pl17 to compile ?
I keep getting all these undfined_symbol in the elm libutil.a.
After a lot of patching I managed to get elm itself to compile but
I have given up on the utils becuase I figure there must be somthing I
have overlooked thats giving all these errors. I am using gcc 2.2.2d7

- Ernie.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: arm@helix.nih.gov (Andrew Mitz)
Subject: nubie returns: how to fdisk drive 2?
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Reply-To: arm@helix.nih.gov (Andrew Mitz)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:47:30 GMT


The 30 pounds of documentation on setting up SLS Linux all use
examples of creating a partition on the first drive of a PC.
I would like to keep my first drive (with two partitions)
for DOS, and dedicate my second (110 Meg IDE) drive to Linux.

I would like to get this step correct rather than wipe out my
DOS drive.  Email from an experienced user, or a pointer to 
details on fdisk use would be helpful.  Thanks.


-------------------------------------------------
Andrew Mitz          |    NIH Animal Center
Biomedical Engineer  |    Poolesville, MD
-------------------------------------------------

All opinions expressed are my own.


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tfoley@r-node.gts.org (Tim Foley)
Subject: [Q] Status of Qic-02 Drivers for 0.99?
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:33:19 GMT


 
   What are the present status of the QIC-02 Tape Drivers for 0.99?  I have a couple of Archive 5945c (I think) tape drives and the Genoa QIC-02 tape card, as well as a bunch of Archive full length tape cards...  any one else using a tape drive that could post their experiences?
 

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From: techs@lucifer.9thfloor.beadwrld (Green Lint)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: A proposal for organizing comp.os.linux. [NEW-CHANNELS]
Keywords: split announce angry
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:15:01 GMT
Reply-To: emf@freedom.nmsu.edu
Organization: The aNk1e ByT0rz k1uB


In article <1992Dec15.012306.22022@sfu.ca>, rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.204007.17189@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>>For what it's worth, I think comp.os.linux is damned near unreadable.
>>It isn't just that there are 150 messages a day. The messages in this
>>newsgroup are completely disorganized. There are 150 messages and 100
>>different threads! I'm disappointed that the group reorg didn't pass.
>>

It DID PASS, people... just not by a wide enough margin to satisfy
some ignorant administrative slob who doesn't even read the bloody
group anyway.  I think the split should go thru.

           


>Sigh.  Do you people have any idea how much traffic is left in c.o.l linux
>after you kill these stupid threads?  Not a lot.  The splitting of
>c.o.l vote failed for a reason.  Why do you think doing it anyway will
>solve anything?  What's more (I don't know why people cannot see this;
>it has been mentioned a zillion times) - splitting newsgroups does
>not decrease traffic!  It increases it.  I read comp.os.linux.announce
>because I don't want to miss the announcement of any new toys.  Then I
>have to read the same damn articles again in c.o.l!  How can any sane
>person say this is an improvement?!

IMHO, anyone who cross-posts an announcement to both c.o.l and c.o.l.a
is an idiot.  c.o.l.a is where EVERYONE will go if they want
announcements and ANYONE NOT READING IT DOESN'T CARE!!  Please,
c.o.l.a moderator, STOP CROSSPOSTING.  

and just because it will irritate someone, here's how I think this
silly overpopulated group should be split...

comp.os.linux
comp.os.linux.announce
comp.os.linux.linus		(for Kernel stuff, linus's thing)
comp.os.linux.questions
comp.os.linux.x
comp.os.linux.developers	(for discussion of software in the
				works...  c.o.l should get only MISC
				postings..)

and just because of the ignorant, and i'm in a viscious mood,
comp.os.linux.read.the.bloody.FAQ.first   

and anyone caught crossposting should be shot.   If a Linux guru isn't
reading comp.os.linux.questions, it's because he thinks you (the
poster of the stupid question) should go figure it out for yourself
like the guru-type person did to get to where he is now.)  and any
guru-type nice enough to answer questions would probably read the
questions group anyway.  so bugger off and split this group.


>
>- Ken



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From: sepp@ppcger.ppc.sub.org (Josef Wolf)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: expr broken -> trouble with cnews
Date: 19 Dec 92 14:49:33 GMT
Organization: PPC Cooperation

Hello!

Expr have a problem with the command

      expr <number> : '.*\(.....\)$'

when the matched part of <number> start with the character '0'.
This causes trouble with the cnews-scripts 'recovact' and 'upact'.

For a temporary fix you can replace the offending lines with

      min=`echo 00000$min | sed 's/.*\(.....\)$/\1/'` ;;  # upact

and 

      max="`echo 0000000000$new | sed 's/.*\('$dots'\)$/\1/'`"  # recovact

Is there any patch for expr to cure the problem instead of the symptoms?

Greetings
    Sepp
From: jimc@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (James Carpenter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SCSI Controller
Date: 14 Dec 1992 22:00:35 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu
Keywords: scsi, st01, tmc, quantum

I would like to thank everyone that has given me advice about the ST-01. 

I have never before worked with SCSI so I have a couple of other questions.

1. I'm thinking about starting out with a 85 meg. Quantum with the ST-01.
   Does anyone know if the Quantum will get along with the Segate
   controller?

2. I have two 40 meg. MFM drives currently installed with a 16 bit 1:1 WD
   controller. Can I keep the MFMs when I get the SCSI? Will the speed of
   the MFMs decrease? (I don't know too much about hardware either)

3. I also have a Baby AT case with the 2 hard drvies and 2 floppys. The case
   is full. Does the ST-01 have an external port? Is it a 25 or 50 pin?

4. Would I be better off with a Future Domain TMC850? Is it accepted by
   Linux as much as the ST-01? Will it get along with the Quantum? Does it
   have an external port? Is it a 25 or 50 pin port?

Its either the ST-01 or the TMC850. I don't have enough money to get
anything else (unless I don't get the drive :-)). And I'm want this Quantum
because it is at an acceptable price and comes with the external case and
the cables I'll need. The Quantum is an 85 meg. 17 ms.

I would go IDE but I want to keep the MFMs. I already got two other 40 meg.
drives gathering dust because I upgraded to IDE on a different machine.

Sorry for asking so many questions. But I do need the space and I can't
afford to make a mistake.

Thanks,


	-Jim Carpenter
	 CARPENTER@Eisner.DECUS.Org
	 jimc@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mrex@indigo0 (Martin Rex)
Subject: Re: PROBLEM: Lilo and OS/2 bootmanager
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 05:43:08 GMT

Werner Almesberger (almesber@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch) wrote:
: In article <BERNHARD.92Dec8094014@t524i3.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de> bernhard@t524i3.telematik.informatik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Christoph Bernhardt) writes:
: > Making the Linux partition bootable -- while disabling the bootmanager --
: > works just fine. Lilo comes up and bootstraps correctly. But when I
: > reactivate the bootmanager and chose the Linux partition from the
: > bootmanagers menu the screen blanks and the first "L" of the Lilo
: > bootmessage appears, and that's it.
: 
: Getting only an "L" means that LILO can't load its second stage loader.
: Maybe Bootmanager is doing something evil here ...

Maybe, maybe not.  I am using shoelace, and everything works fine.
I assume it can't be that evil then.  I haven't noticed any problems
when updating to 0.98pl6 with shoelace.  ;-)

I'll change to LILO when you can get it working after Bootmanager
to load Linux from a primary partition off the second (scsi-)drive.

: 
: > Is there another way to chose a boot partition during the boot process?
: 
: Well yes, LILO can probably do that if OS/2 is on a primary partition.

Mine is on a logical partition, so I currently need Bootmanager.

-Martin
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux