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From: sdw@meaddata.com (Stephen Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: IMPORTANT [BUG in 0.99] Re: [ANNOUNCE]: linux version 0.99
Date: 30 Dec 1992 01:17:10 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
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Stephen Williams (sdw@meaddata.com) wrote:
: Lars Wirzenius (wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI) wrote:
..
: 
: Statics are either explicitly initialized or they are not.
: If they are not, their contents are UNDEFINED until set.
: This is per ANSI C.
: 
: There is NO requirement of the compiler or system to zero
: un-initialized statics (or auto's).
: 
: The fact that some systems waste time doing so is no reason rely on it
: as a feature.  This was already debated and tossed out as something to
: rely on.
NOT!!!

Gosh... I HATE it when I'm wrong....
Really, it was true somewhere... back in the K&R dark ages... honestly...

Obviously, I should have CHECKED.

Actually, I'm glad it's this way....

Well... Ces L'Vie... (sp?).

I've always said (after a juicy screwup), you need a humbling
experience every once in a while to put things in perspective....

sdw
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From: jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho)
Subject: Re: DigiBoard w/Linux
Organization: NullNet r.y.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:27:26 GMT

In article <725591436.AA28078@remote.halcyon.com> Randy.Edwards@f60.n128.z1.fidonet.org (Randy Edwards) writes:
>
>   I was curious if Linux supported any DigiBoards.  I've got a 4-port 
>intelligent DigiBoard that I use with OS/2 and was wondering if anyone 
>had convinced Linux to cooperate with such a beast.  Any info?  Thanks 
>in advance. 

For some time ago I tried to hunt programming specifications for some DigiBoard
products, and found out that getting them would require signing a non-
disclosure agreement. So, there won't be any DigiBoard drivers distributed
in source form, I suppose.. I decided to look at other vendors' products.

..Wolf
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Arrgh!!! Alerting all Linux wizards, sorcerers...whatever..!!
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Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:13:23 GMT

Edmund Wong (wonge@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:

: following screen appeared:-
: 
:    Filesystem       1024-blocks   Used  Available Capacity  Mounted on
:    /dev/hda2          51675      49173   2502       95%        /
:    /dev/fd1           51675      49173   2502       95%        /user
: 
:     So I try a 'umount /user' and the system sends the following
: reply "umount: /dev/fd1: No such file or directory".

Try editing /etc/mtab and taking the offending line out.  BTW, in my /etc/rc
file, I have the line "/bin/rdev > /etc/mtab", which resets the mount tables.
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From: lucy@lehre25.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (captain segfault)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: X screendumps
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:51:49 GMT
Organization: Universitaet Bremen

Hi

I need some screenshots from my Xwindows. I compiled xwd but the
dumps i get are displaying badly (i used a sparc to view the pictures with
wxud ..). Are there any other utilities for screenshots available ??? or did
someone know why i get incorrect dumps form xwd (with the monoserver) ???

thanx for any help !

h.b.

PS happy Xmas

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From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: cdefs.h
Date: 1 Jan 1993 17:32:32 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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shawnb@ecst.csuchico.edu (S.E. Brown) writes:

>When attempting to compile the kernal source that came with the SLS .99
>package, I found the file cdefs.h missing.  Can anyone tell me where I can
>find this file, of can someone send me a copy of this?

>Thanks in advance.

>S.E.P. Brown
>shawnb@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu
>PGP public keys available upon request`

Make sure and do a "make dep" before attempting to recompile. Also, you
might want to install the new libc and gcc from tsx-11.mit.edu in the
pub/linux/GCC directory. This includes the cdefs.h file and fixes a lot
of problems with the older libraries.

James
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Linux Scheduling (Was Re: Die Die Die) (long)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:00:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.155544.20713@mcs.gvsu.edu> wissner@perlis.mcs.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner) writes:
>The Linux scheduler follows (in general) a round-robin scheduling model,
>in that each process initially gets a fixed time quantum.  Of course, if
>a process uses up its quantum it is preempted, and if it needs to sleep
>while doing some sort of IO, it releases the CPU voluntarily.
>
>[...]
>And theoretically, the scheme Linux uses shouldn't allow for starvation
>(what you are experiencing) - processes that use their quantum will
>'wait' until all other processes have had their chance.  There is,
>however, no mechanism to /prevent/ starvation.  This is what I suspect
>[...]

That's where ``nice'' levels should help.  What happens with a process
with the highest possible nice level (or lowest, I forget which way
Linux does it)?  Will it also give up its time to any new process?  I
like to have ``top'' running as root on one VC, so I can control the
system if need be.  Why not put new processes as close to the front of
the queue as possible without putting them ahead of any processes with
higher nice values.  Of course, that involves more overhead for
creating a new process, but it would ensure that new processs can't
starve high nice-level ones.

-Joel
(joel@wam.umd.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: bmyers@shyguy.lonestar.org (bob myers)
Subject: bug with doinstall (0.99.0/1??)
Organization: 3-B Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:33:38 GMT

I've just starting to play around with installing a system (on my wife's
Laser 386sx, 102mb ide drive for linux and 102 mb ide drive for msdos).

Apparently, I had something resting/bumping one of the keys on my keyboard
(the '-' key on the numeric keypad section).  This caused my system to lock
up after printing the 'done' message on disk X4.  (it happened during the
processing of this disk).  there were probably about a hundred or so
'hits' of the key.

Needless to say, I couldn't continue on with the install process.

What does one do at this point??  Is a complete re-install needed?

-bob
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From: eichin@athena.mit.edu (Mark Eichin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Internal compiler error while building kernel
Date: 29 Dec 1992 20:59:16 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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In-reply-to: tfoley@camaro.uucp's message of 28 Dec 92 13:31:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.133156.301@camaro.uucp> tfoley@camaro.uucp (Tim Foley) writes:

   From: tfoley@camaro.uucp (Tim Foley)
   Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
   Date: 28 Dec 92 13:31:56 GMT
   References: <1992Dec28.010228.9589@cbfsb.cb.att.com>

   In article <1992Dec28.010228.9589@cbfsb.cb.att.com> wto@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (William T. O Connell) writes:
   >
   >When building the kernel (via 'make all'), I occasionally get the 
   >following error message and compilation stops:
   >	gcc: Internal compiler error: program cc1 got fatal signal 4
   >
   >Then, I re-type 'make all', and the build will continue successfully.
   >This may happen two or three times during building the entire kernel.
   >Once built, the kernel works fine.
   >

I've seen the same problem... on my 486/40 w/16M ram, I get these
failures intermittently. On the various 386sx laptops I've rented (4M
and 8M of ram, 20Mhz or less) I've never seen the problem. I've tried
adding wait states, but that hasn't helped... and I haven't tried 99.1
on the 486 yet (still running 98.6 or so.) Interestingly enough, I've
mostly seen the compiler fail when running it inside of emacs, but I
think I've seen it fail once or twice run from a shell, so it could be
a memory usage related problem.
				_Mark_ <eichin@athena.mit.edu>
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wto@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (William T. O Connell)
Subject: (C)SLIP
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 05:12:31 GMT

Over the past couple of months, I have seen a handful of posts
asking about SLIP. I haven't seen anybody post responses to them
(if so, I missed them). I also noticed that tha ~ALPHA/SLIP directories
are empty on the FTP sites.

Is anybody using (C)SLIP -or- know where to get it for linux?
If not, is there anybody working on this? (if so, I would be
willing to act as a test site -or- try to help 8-) ).

Please post you responses.

- Bill      wto@ihlpx.att.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield)
Subject: Oops, I goofed (WAS Re: Son of SLS questions (tm))
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:18:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.040900.6300@netcom.com> tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield) blows it and writes: 
>Try (as root) `passwd -x 9999 -n 0 -w 100'
>-- the numbers are as follows:
>         -x = number of days till expire
>         -n = minimum number of days till a user may change his/her passwd
>         -w = number of days prior to expiration that a user is warned
>

After the whole arguement, add the users account name whom you wish to
change.  IE: `passwd -x 9999 -n 0 -w 100 tweek'

       tweek@netcom.com  tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058  4@5056 
          I'd rather get my cable service from the phone company,
                than my phone service from the cable company.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: fjh@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fergus James HENDERSON)
Subject: Re: [Q]Upgrading libc.so.
Keywords: libc.so linux Library
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:44:03 GMT

KIRSCH@ps1.iaee.tuwien.ac.at (Rainer Kirsch) writes:

>Upgrading from libc.so.4.1 to 4.2 isn't that easy. [...]
>In order to make a new link, I removed the old one and uups ... I could not 
>do anything else. Of course!  [...]
>My question is: Have I overseen some simpler possibility of procedure?

Yes. Use the -f options to ln. For example:

	ln -sf libc.so.4.2 libc.so.4

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@sunSITE.unc.edu (Jonathan Magid)
Subject: Re: Linux Disk Format...
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 17:30:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.010432.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> smackinla@cc.curtin.edu.au (Pat Mackinlay) writes:
>
>Mainly, I got a response from a couple of people at IBM who said that the 
>document "HPFS disk layout" (or something like that) was marked 
>confidential and for "Microsoft's eyes only"... Essentially, the problem is 
>that IBM has not, as yet, released all the details of their disk format, so 
>writing an HPFS FS for Linux could be difficult.

Coincidentally I was talking to a friend about this the other day. He is a
programmer at IBM and was interested in writing an HPFS file system for Linux.
What he found out was that Microsoft owns it, not IBM.  Its proprietary to
Microsoft, and all the details are provided in Microsoft's internal journal.

>I believe IBM is reconsidering it's opinion on the "openness" of OS/2 at 
>the moment, and may release details of the HPFS (and some other stuff) at a 
>later date, but as it stands at the moment, the information is not freely 
>obtainable.

That would be great, but I think that its M-Soft that has to reconsider, not
IBM, in this case.  As it is, my friend was looking into the possibilities and
legalities of releasing an HPFS in object file form.  Of course this is kind
of against the spirit of Linux, and could never be added to the main-line
kernel like this, but he figured that it would be better than nothing
for people that need the functionality and someday it would be released...

Of course someone could always reverse engineer it... ;)
jem.
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From: przemek@rrdstrad.nist.gov (Przemek Klosowski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Problem booting SLS disks (compaq computer)
Date: 30 Dec 92 23:03:57 GMT
Organization: U. of Maryland/NIST


Hello!

I have a Compaq 386-20 with 5 meg memory and color VGA card. I copied
0.98p5 version of SLS package from tsx-11 and tried to boot using the
kernel contained in file a1.  The computer displays the Loading.....
line, and then prints on the console this:

Press <RETURN>  to see SVGA-modes available or <SPACE> to continue

and at this point regardless whether I press space or return the
computer reboots. I looked at the FAQ but did not find anything
helpful. What should I do now:

 get another version of SLS?
 try another kernel version?
 give up Linux and try BSD386?
 give up Unix and stay with MSDOS?
 

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: zmbenhal@netcom.com (Zeyd M. Ben-Halim)
Subject: tcip/ip config -- ioctl: invalid argument
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 01:50:48 GMT

Hi, I'm tryin to config the tcp/ip stuff and get the above error.
config -n 128.240.100.0 -r 0.0.0.0 eth0 128.240.100.001
complains about an invalid arguments to ioctl.
Trying to debug it results in gdb saying ./libgcc.c:1: no such file. I can't
list config.c, gdb says it can't find the source.

Any hints,
Zeyd

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: amb43790@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tony Brummett)
Subject: Problem with 0.99 kernel booting
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:01:37 GMT

  I finally compiled the 0.99 kernel with no major problems, except when it
boots, after reporting all the devices it has connected, it says
kernel panic: cannot mount root
or something like that. I have my root filesystem as /dev/hda2. It's a 30Mb
minix partition. I fsck'ed it and it's ok. Also, I've had no other problems
woth any other kernel version before this. Oh, and I did change the line at
the beginning of the makefile for the root filesystem to be /dev/hda2. 
  So... does anyone have any idea what the problem is?
Thanks in advance.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: amartell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alex Martelli)
Subject: getpwnami, 4.2 & login, perl ... (was Re: UUCP 103 (taylor))
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 21:02:30 GMT

I'm also having problems with that... I did all that I saw suggested here
(conf.h as posted here, without SIGACTION etc; -fwritabble-strings; got
0.99 PL 1 and libc.so.4.2; ...) and now what happens is that getpwnam()
and getpwuid(), called in sig1.c, both return null pointers, thus all
programs, starting from uucp itself, die with "Can't get login name"...

Both getpw* functions appear to work fine from a small test program, but
not within the uucp suite... so far, I can't figure out why.

In going to libc.so.4.2 (I pointed libc.so.4 to it) I ALMOST ran into a bad
problem - the login program won't run any more... must be patched to use
libc.so.4.1 (I used the already-suggested trick: point a symbolic link
libc.so.O to the 4.1 library, patch the executable inplace).  I wanted
to use perl for the patching as I always did on other Unices (with a
-pi switch and a single s/libc.so.4/libc.so.O/; instruction) BUT it
doesn't work here: it truncates the input file to the first binary 0 byte,
so login becomes only 3 bytes long... is it a bug in the fread() from
stdio?  Apparently it's the reading that makes perl truncate at the 0 byte
(it works with sysread then syswrite, though it's less convenient).

Any workaround or idea about the getpwnam/getpwuid in uucp?  Any other
binaries that must be patched to use 4.1 before I get nasty surprises?
I'll followup if I get any suggestion that works, of course.


Alex
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From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: LILO setup help?
Date: 2 Jan 93 14:48:00 GMT
Reply-To: john.will@satalink.com (John Will)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434

I've seen a number of postings here in the last few days, including one
from me, asking about getting LILO working to boot Linux from the hard
disk.  To date, I haven't gotten any responses, has anyone else?  I'd
really like to get this working, but I haven't been successful so far.
To recap, my configuration is:

386DX-20, 8mb RAM, 80387, 1.2 & 1.44mb floppies, T4000 STB PowerGraph VGA,
100mb IDE drive totally dedicated to Linux.  I have Linux running fine
booting from floppy, I'd just like to get it running on the hard disk.
I'm a newcomer to Unix, so even if the brief instructions for LILO that
come with the SLS distribution are enough for most folks, they seem not
to be sufficient for me. :-)  I'd appreciate any help in getting this
to boot from the HD, it can't be that difficult, can it?
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From: opium@hardy.u.washington.edu (Just dance and move your body)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: IGNORE: 21737, it was an accident 8-(  very sorry!!
Date: 24 Dec 92 03:21:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec24.032144.4474
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

SORRY 8-( !!!
From: ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux with IBM mono card?
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:27:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BzMrqC.4FF.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


What I've seen indicates that Linux will function with CGA, EGA, VGA,
and Herculese graphics cards.  How about the old standard IBM mono
card?  The one that doesn't have *any* graphics modes, just text?
I've got a two-headed 386 box, and under DOS I can run software on the
VGA screen and a debugger on the monochrome screen at the same time.
I'd like to have /dev/console messages go to the mono monitor and
have users log in on the VGA monitor at the same time.  Possible?
Easy?  Having a login on both screens with a hot-key to switch between
them would be even better.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.windows.x.i386unix
From: roell@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Thomas Roell)
Subject: Re: XFree 1.1 with T8900; mixed results.
Organization: Inst. fuer Informatik, Technische Univ. Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:18:42 GMT

>  2. why does the 256 color Trident display driver only support
>     T8900C chips? What's this annoying difference between the
>     T8900B and C?

That's a very trivial reason. For some X stuff you need to have access
to a source byte and a destination byte at the same time. If you deal
with SVGA's which cannot map their whole 1MB video memory into the
CPU's address space, you have to do banking. If you also have to
fullfill the upper constraint, then you see that you need to have two
banks which can be used independantly (since source and destination of
the operation might not be in the same bank).

The TVGA8900B supports only ONE bank, while the TVGA8900C supports TWO
banks.

- Thomas


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From: ig25@fg30.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: chmod weirdness in ext file system, 0.99, and mount(2)
Date: 23 Dec 1992 19:04:56 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Reply-To: ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: fg30.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de

I recently experienced something weird with the chmod(1) command.  I had
a directory in my home dir whose flags were set to r--------, the uid
was my userid, and the gid was root; I had set the flags by accident,
and wanted to correct them to rwx------.  Problem:  chmod 700 dir didn't
work (permission denied).  I had to su to root to fix the permissions.
Later, I wanted to reproduce the problem, but I couldn't.

I'm running a 486/50 with a Minix partition as root and an extended file
system mounted on /usr, as partitions /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda3 on an AT
bus disk, and 0.99 with Linux' two fixes patched in by hand.  The home
directory in question was in /usr/homes, i.e. on the extended fs.
The chmod command came from the 0.98pl5 SLS distribution.

BTW, what are the parameters to the 0.99 mount(2) system call? I wanted
to write replacements for the m0, m0d, ...  - macros for mounting
filesystems from a floppy, but the manpage mentioned only three parameters,
and I could not figure out legal values for the other two...
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The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic
diagram.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marcf@nexus.yorku.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: new error with compiling 0.99p1 : )
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:01:06 GMT

Hi...

	God, ppl are going to start getting annoyed with the
errors I seem to find, but hey...sorry :)

	make config works
	make dep works
	make clean works
	make all doesn't...

	I get as far as compiling init/main.c, and it stops with:

In function `start_kernel':
241: too many arguments to function `inode_init'
241: void value not ignored as it ought to be.

	That was from patching 0.99p0 to 0.99p1.  I'm downloading
the complete source for 0.99p1 right now and will see what happens
with that...but...

Thanks...

Marc
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: remote users can start local X
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:23:54 GMT

After firing up uugetty, I had a friend dial in
remotely and see what they could (and couldn't)
do via remote modem login.

We found that a remote user can start up
X-windows on the linux system, and the result
is that the local console indeed runs X nad
is unusable (and uninterruptable) locally.

Shouldn't there be something where a remote
user can't start X up on the linux system
they're dialing into ?

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