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Subject:      Handicap Digest # 2939

                             THE HANDICAP DIGEST

                                 Issue # 2939

                        Wednesday, September 09, 1992

Today's Topics:


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                                Computer aids
                       Re: Jerry's Orphans Needs You!
                          Re: Files Now Available!!
                           Liberty,equality and ??
      Re: Is education preparing Special Needs Students for the Future?
                                    Timer
                                  Permobile
                                 Hey,Read Me


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Subject: Computer aids
From: Ray.Berilla@f120.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Ray Berilla)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/120 - Colossus, Worthington OH


I need information on devices which would make it easier for a
quadreplegic to use a computer. I'm looking for a computer to make
life a little easier for a young man who would use it primarily for
writing. He is currently using a mouth stick and an electric
typewriter. Thanks.

       Ray B.

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Subject: Re: Jerry's Orphans Needs You!
From: Pandora.Nigh@p0.f554.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Pandora Nigh)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:157/554.0 - Analytical Engine B, Willoughby OH


 -=> Quoting Gary Warren to Robert Bowes V <=-
    Hi Gary I must differ with you on the broad generalized statement you made.

 Finally and MOST importantly, it is now established
 GW> that ANY charity, no matter how holy or sincere the motives, only
 GW> devotes 35-45 percent of its gross contributions to its stated aims.
 GW> The rest goes right toward overhead and administrative costs.

While this is true about a lot of agencies it is not true of all. I
am on the board of directors for the Portage County Easter Seals
Society and I see the total income and expenditures of that agency
monthly and in a yearly breakdown.  Last year we raised $232,900.
$68,562 for salaries of which $9,000 went to contract employees.
Contract employees were the speech and audiologists and PT.  We pay
them for the clinic they run for us and for there direct client
services.  So basically I would not consider that as agency staff
money, but direct service to client. We spent approxamately another
$40,270 most of wich went for the mortgage and insurance on the
building. The building is a one storey simple building. When they
built their building they decided to put the bulk of it into a
hall. The hall has a bar and a kitchen. In the back of the building
is storage area so we can run a durable medical loan and assist
program and the acutual staff area is a small area without seperate
offices.

The rental of the hall and the bingo games that we sponser there
generated $141,632. So I don't feel that they have over spent to
purchase a building and in a few years the mortgage will be paid
off and then more will go to client services. Another $3000 went
for dues to National Easter Seal and Ohio State Easter Seals. So
our expenditure for the agency was $102,832 which is roughly 44%.
Almost an exact reversal of your statement. So Please be carefull
when making such broad accusations

... Dianne Piastro, a disabled (from MS, I think)
GW> syndicated journalist, and her stonewalled efforts to get from the
GW> national MDA office administrative salary figures, in spite of the
GW> fact that non-profit groups MUST make available assets and liabilities
GW> as part of the public record.  So far, as far as I know (::ahem::),
GW> she hasn't yet succeeeded. glw, ye olde editor and publisher
GW> disABILITY NEWS-letter

If she really wants to know all she has to do is contact IRS and
ask to see the forms 990-PF that they have filed for what ever year
she wants. These are the forms that are public record and IRS will
give you copies but you will have to pay a fee for them.

I too know of agencies that really stick it to the clients and
donars, in fact I turned down a token (and I do mean token)
position to be on the board of a local Independent Living Center.
They had to have so many disAbled people on board to be in
compliance with their charter. This agency had been in existance
for 5 years and didn't even have an accessable office. They
received all kinds of money from grants and United Way. What they
did with the money I have no idea because I was never able to find
any service that they were providing. And of course being on their
board would have done me no good because I couldn't attend board
meeting at there offices.

                                                   Pandora

... ARRRRRGGGHHH!!!! ... Tension breaker, had to be done.

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Subject: Re: Files Now Available!!
From: Russell.Hunt@p0.f243.n620.z3.fidonet.org (Russell Hunt)
Organization: FidoNet node 3:620/243.0


G'day,

 PB> From: patt@squid.tram.com (Patt Bromberger)
 PB> Index Number: 24079
 PB> [This is from the Holistic Discussion Group and was
 PB> originally from
 PB>  ST9996@SIUCVMB.BITNET]
 PB> Hello fellow-netfriends!
 PB> This letter is to inform everyone that files are now
 PB> available on
 PB> HOLISTIC. There are only four files up at this point in

Could you please tell me what "HOLISTIC" is and what information
does it  contain.

Regards ............ Russell    Canberra, Australia

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TNT XL/v8.2 * Tagline not funny: (a)bort, (r)etry, (f)ail

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Subject: Liberty,equality and ??
From: Arlette.Lefebvre@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Arlette Lefebvre)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL


        LIBERTY, EQUALITY AND DISABILITY _ THE FACTS:
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The following statistics were taken, with permission, from the July
1992 issue of the New Internationalist Magazine devoted to
"Disabled Lives: Difference and Defiance".(Thanks to our own Lorna
Renooy, of AboutFace, who sent it to me in a TLC enveloppe!)

The Editor of this special issue is Vanessa Baird, and the
editorial and advertising office of this publication is located at
11o1 Bloor St West, Toronto, Ontario M6H 1M1. Tel.: 588-6478.

In the US, try: PO Box 1143, Lewiston, NY 14092.

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NUMBERS:

   * 500 million people in the world are disabled- roughly ONE
     in TEN.
   * 300 million live in developing countries.
   * 140 million are children.
   * 160 million are women. (1)

CAUSES:

   * Over 100 million people are currently disabled as a result
     of malnutrition- that's ONE in FIVE. (2)
   * Iron deficiency, anemia and chronic infections of the
     pelvis are major causes of disability of women in poor
     countries. The latter is often caused by female circumcision-
     which affects at least 80 million young girls and women- and
     early pregnancy. (2)
   * A handful of green vegetables every day would be enough to
     save the eyesight of 250,000 children who go blind every year
     because their diets lack Vitamin A. (2)
   * Lack of Iodine is the chief cause of preventable
     intellectual disability in the world. It is estimated that about
     800 million are at risk, mostly in Asia. (2)
   * War and violence cause disability as well. An estimated
     100,000 Cambodians have become disabled as a result of
     landmines. Between 300-500 people become amputees each
     month.(3)

POVERTY:

   * Most people with spinal cord injuries in Third World
     countries die within two years of becoming disabled due to lack
     of facilities. (4)
   * 80 per cent of disabled people live in Asia and the
     Pacific, but they receive just two per cent of the resources
     allocated to disabled people. (5)
   * In the US and UK over 60 per cent of disabled people live
     below the poverty line. (6,7)
   * The cost of living for a disabled person living in the West
     is estimated at $100 more per week than for a non-disabled
     person. (8)

EDUCATION AND WORK:

   * In the UK only 0.3 per cent of higher-education students
     are disabled although disabled people are 10 per cent of
     the total population. (6)
   * Disabled people in the US and the UK are three times more
     likely to be unemployed then any other group. (6,7)
   * Disabled women are doubly disadvantaged. The figures
     in all categories are much worse.

RIGHTS:

   * Only ONE COUNTRY in the world has anti-discrimination
     legislation- The United States which, in July 1990 passed
     The American with Disabilities Act.
   * Human Rights charters for disabled people exist in Canada,
     Sweden and some states in Australia.

               A bientot, I hope...?

                                               Docteur Froggie.
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Subject: Re: Is education preparing Special Needs Students for the Future?
From: Russell.Goddard,.Jr.@p0.f650.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Russell Goddard, Jr.)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:107/650.0


On 01 Sep 92 15:10:28, Jean Brickey wrote to All...

 JB> 1.  Teachers lack the special training needed to assist and teach
 JB> special needs children.  If a teacher has the special training,
 JB> they do not have the opportunity to use it every year.  A teacher
 JB> may get a deaf or blind child one year, and not get another child
 JB> with these special needs for five to ten years.  When you don't use
 JB> your training, it gets rusty.

You bring up a valid point.  However, in most cases, special training
are not required.  I am a 17 year old profoundly deaf student of a
regular high school.  I have honors classes in my schedules.  In the
past I have absolutely no trouble with being in honors classes.
Whenever I'm here the sensitivity factor rises.  I tell the teacher to
have me sit in the front, look at me when talking so that I can read his
or her lips, and be close to me.  Almost all teachers complied to my
wishes.  On one occasion, I have to move to an another class because a
teacher cannot comply with my wishes.  That teacher has a thick
moustache and beard, and a seating arrangement that puts me at a
disadvantage.

 JB> 2.  Parents often are over protective and the child is never allowed
 JB> to participate in the social activities at the school.  The child
 JB> never gets involved in clubs, sports, school dances and other
 JB> activities.

When I was a child my mother won't let me play outside with the other
kids.  I can see what you mean.  However, the parent's overprotection,
while it sounds like a good thing, can stunt your emotional growth.  In
effect, you are cutting off a viable source of friendships.  I am active
in several activities now.  My parents have absolutely no problem
whatsoever about my being Senior Class President, member of the Academic
Team, liason to other schools for the school's environmental
organization, President of the Computer Club, member of the National
Honor Society, and member of the school's television lab.  I am also one
of only 5 percent of the entire population of the country's high
school-aged people who are nominated to be in the renowned publication,
"Who's Who Among American High School Students."

 JB> 3.  Social promotion.  Students are socially promoted and
 JB> though there is some merit to social promotion, to do it all the
 JB> time is detrimental to the student.  Allowing any child be it
 JB> special needs children or "normal" children to go through school
 JB> without being able to read or write or gain any mathematical
 JB> abilities is what is wrong with our young students today.  The
 JB> United States has more illiterate people then most of the other
 JB> countries in the world.  Not because we cannot teach them, but
 JB> because we allow them to go on through school and never get the
 JB> basic skills needed to function in a technically advanced society.

Really?  The U.S. has more illiterate people than most of the other
countries in the world.  Excuse my ignorance, but where did you get that
figure?  Other than that I agree with you totally on that point.

 JB> 4.  Itinerate teaching.  There is no way an itinerate teacher can
 JB> teach a blind child braille, or a deaf child to sign and read by
 JB> being with that child two or three days a week.  We don't teach our
 JB> "normal" student to read or speak by working with them a few days
 JB> a week.  The "normal" child gets these skills taught on a daily
 JB> basis.  This is not a knock on the intemperate teacher, they are
 JB> doing the best they can with the student load and time they have.

There are other sources of teaching.  The child's teacher does not have
to teach them to sign or read a braille book.  Those skills should be
taught at home or from a competent teacher before the child enters
kindergarten.

 JB> 5.  Acceptance among peers.  Lets be honest, ADA cannot legislate
 JB> attitudes.  Though some people readily accept a blind or a deaf
 JB> child or a retarded or mobility impaired child, the majority of
 JB> society still has problems interacting with special needs people.
 JB> There is a lot to say for being among your peers.

Again I have no problem whatsoever being with my peers.  If I sense a
problem in communication, I tell that someone to speak up, let me read
your lips, ect.  Having a special-needs child actually increases
sensitivity, and teaches children to help their fellow peers in ways
that they never did before.  That's a viable life skill, considering
that there are 43 million disabled Americans today.

 JB> 6.  Money.  It is expensive to provide all the special things a
 JB> special needs child should have for a good rounded education
 JB> Special equipment that should be used with these students costs
 JB> and few school systems can afford the equipment for one or two
 JB> children.

Again, the parents of the child should provide the necessary equipment
for the school.  I wear hearing aids (behing the ears type) and that's
all I need.  Sometimes I wished that the school bought a closed caption
decoder for me to watch some shows.  On that point I'm neutral.

 JB> 7.  Many teachers do not want to work with a special needs child in
 JB> their classroom.  I know of teachers that resent having a special
 JB> needs child in their class.  This is not true for all teaches is
 JB> true for enough of our nations teachers which hinders the
 JB> success of mainstreaming.

Again, all I need is a little more attention.  I am never a burden on
teachers.

Let me tell you something about special education.  I used to be in
special education during my elemtary school years.  The town put me
there because they think I had a learning disability when in fact I have
a hearing disability.  I was out of special education withing 3 years,
enrolling in mainstreamed classes with almost no problems.  As I said
before I am in honors classes.  At one point I was even accepted into
one Advanced Placement class.

 JB> What I have been asked over and over by counselors and even the
 JB> superabundant of a residential school is one question.  What is the
 JB> answer for this problem?  I have my own ideas on what would work,
 JB> but I would like to know what others think.   I would really like to
 JB> know what the rest of you think is happening to our special needs
 JB> students today.  Should residential schools be closed and forgotten
 JB> about?  Is mainstreaming preparing students for the future?  What are
 JB> your thoughts on a least restrictive environment.

I think that each student should be treated on a case-by-case basis.  In
the least restrictive environment, integration with the normal world and
interaction with others that are normal is the biggest advantage.  On
the other hand, if you isolate the child, there's a better chance of
learning since there's individual attention that most mainstreamed
classes lack.  It's all up to the child.
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Subject: Timer
From: Russ.Kiehne@f99.n215.z1.fidonet.org (Russ Kiehne)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:215/99 - Blink Connection, San Leandro CA


One of my users posted the following message in my local message base! Can
anyone help with this question.

from   : Cindy Gallegos #29
To     : Russ Kiehne #1
subject: Device
Date   : 02 Sep 92  22:36

Hello Russ!  Long time no type!  Have a rather strange question to
ask you.  I need a special type of pocket type timer.  One that
vibrates.  I am working as a Chairmens assitant on a Convention in
San Jose, and it will be my job to monitor his time at the
convention.  It will be my job to make sure that people do not take
more than 5 minutes of hbis time.  The reason I need a timer that
vibrates, is so that i can have it in my pocket.And so that the
person that is talking to the Chairman, has no idea that I am
monitoring the time that the conversation takes.   To have one of
these, would be a GREAT help.  For the general public, this seems
hard to find.  But, maybe for the sight impared, this might be a
device that is used.  Do you know of any type of device that would
come close to this?  Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!
Thank you so much!  Take care...


		     Cindy

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Subject: Permobile
From: Noel.Harper@f96.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Noel Harper)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/96 - Information Laborat, Seattle WA


Hello, I was scaning through the message base and spoted the word
"Permobile." Since I am looking into getting one of these chairs I
had to drop you a note. How do you like it?  I'm a C-5C-6 quad and
fed up with whats been offered me in the chair market.  The
Permobile looks like the ticket.  If you don't mind me asking, what
options did you get on your chair and how would you rate them?

Thanks for your time.
                      Noel

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Subject: Hey,Read Me
From: Ryan.Wishum@f7.n3617.z1.fidonet.org (Ryan Wishum)
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3617/7 - Software Corner, Albany GA


Hey, my name is Ryan Wishum. I am 18 and have Cerebral Palsy. I am going to
Middle Georgia College this fall. I am going to study Computer Engineering.
I am interested in meeting new people especially people with Cerebral
Palsy.
If you have Cerebral Palsy or are an Engineer (especially Computer Engineer)
or a college student or just want to meet a new friend, please write me a
message. If you don't mind, please give me your address so if I can't reply
by computer, I can write. I'll try to reply as soon as possible. Hope to
hear from you.

Yours truly
Ryan Wishum

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