HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: news@wolves.uucp (The Wolfe of the Den)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: TIN Feature request for .index files
Summary: provide alternate directory location
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:32:28 GMT
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Organization: Wolves Den UNIX
X-Md4-Signature: c427b40722c6bb3aa8467356ea397419

I built Tin just tonight from the recent alt.sources release.

It looks good, and works as advertised.  I also built the INDEX_DAEMON
version and it works well.

However, it would be nice to be able to point tin and tind at index
files somewhere other than the same filesystem as $NEWSPOOL.  Trn
provides an option to build its thread files in another location so that
space and inodes can be conserved on the spool filesystem.

Looking over the code, it seems that it shouldn't be too difficult to
provide an INDEXDIR variable so that it could be pointed somewhere else.
I do realize that the NNTP service additions would have to be patched as
well, but it is just as useful for NNTP servers as for single-node
servers (especially these poor benighted System Vr3.x systems :-)

Thanks for the program, and thanks for listening.
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From: soutj@SunLab4 (Soutter J K)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Tin: scrolling article line by line.
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:29:20 GMT

sycheng@csunix.csie.nctu.edu.tw (Shiao-Yang Cheng) writes:
: ccechk@nuscc.nus.sg (Heng Kek) writes:
: 
: >Hi, Does anyone who uses Tin out there know how to scroll an
: >article line by line, instead of screen by screen?  I can't seem
: >to find the key and it's not listed in the contextual help
: >either.  A missing feature?  
: 
: We also have this problem ! But I think 'tin' doesn't support this little
: function. I hope the next patch can add this function ! ( Tin can scroll
: half screen once a time ! )
: 
				   
Line at a time is not the only problem.  I often wish to search for a
string within a file.  This is often useful, for example to find the
answer to question 3 in a FAQ, but tin does not support this feature
either.

A work around with the current version of tin (1.1 PL2) is to pipe
long articles through "less" or "more" by using the pipe ("|")
command.  WARNING, if you wish to use this method of reading articles
make sure you read the entire article.  If you use "less" press "G"
before you quit "less" to ensure you have reached the end of the
article.  If your pager does not read the entire article form tin then
when the pager finishes tin will crash with the message ...

  Error: fprintf() failed in copy_fp(). errno=32: Broken pipe
  Error: fprintf() failed in copy_fp(). errno=4: Interrupted system call
  [ ... repeated several times ...]


			    James Soutter
From: rick@hci.hw.ac.uk (Rick Innis)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Newsreader Survey
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:14:29 GMT
Distribution: news
Organization: Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University


As the subject line suggests, I'm looking for a survey of newsreading
software - basically, answers to the questions

	how many different newsreaders are there out there?
	how satisfied are people with them?
	what would people *like* to see in a newsreader?

The reason for this is because of my Master's thesis - "Visual Representation
of Computer Conferencing Systems".  As you might guess a graphical interface
to USENET news forms a significant part of this project :-) (Although the
main thrust is actually to a case study of how people use certain features of
it.) 

Any info anyone can supply (including whether I'm reinventing the wheel) will
be greatly appreciated; please email and I'll summarise.

	--Rick.
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From: htchan@acsu.buffalo.edu (Huitung T. Chan)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: NN - how to speed up saves?
Date: 6 Apr 92 02:05:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

silvert@cs.dal.ca (Bill Silvert) writes:

>Is there any way to tell NN not to bother asking  the */+ question when
>saving items from the main menu, when there is only a single page?  The
>question is clearly pointless, but I can't figure out how to suppress it.
>-- 
>William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
>P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2.  Tel. (902)426-1577
>InterNet Address: silvert@biome.bio.dfo.ca
>-- 
>William Silvert, Habitat Ecology Division, Bedford Inst. of Oceanography
>P. O. Box 1006, Dartmouth, Nova Scotia, CANADA B2Y 4A2.  Tel. (902)426-1577
>InterNet Address: silvert@biome.bio.dfo.ca

i used: set confirm-create off
you can put it in your ~/.nn/init or
type it on command line in nn.
From: ajg@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Arnold Goldberg)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: nntpxmit problem
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:55:13 GMT
Distribution: news
Organization: Computer Science Department/ University of Florida


The problem I'm having stems from the fact that I have a file:

/usr/spool/news/out.going/nntp/file

that contains article xref of the form:

misc/legal/computing/925
etc
etc

my problem occurs because nntpsend (nntpxmit) wants an absolute
path ie:

/usr/spool/news/misc/legal/computing/925

What do I have to patch and how .

Thanks

Arnold



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Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: dan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Dan Trottier)
Subject: nntp failing to spawn inews
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:06:24 GMT

I'm running NNTP 1.5.11 and CNEWS 22-Dec-1991 on a Sun 4/280 under 
Sun OS 4.1.1 and I'm getting an error message everytime someone tries
to post an article from a remote machine. The error message is:

Apr 13 15:54:38 maccs nntpd[21615]: 
    /var/share/news/inews: /var/share/news/inews: article in 
                                                   /u0/staff/news/dead.article
Apr 13 15:54:39 maccs nntpd[21615]: spawn: /var/share/news/inews exit status 1

/** Note: line breaks are added for readability **/

The remote machine (the one where the article originated from) gets an error
message to stdout/stderr which reads:

 /var/share/news/inews: article in /u0/staff/news/dead.articleArticle appended
 to /dead.article.

I don't understand what the problem is and it seems next to impossible to
debug the problem without a major hassle. Has anyone seen this problem or
can suggest possible ways to resolve it?

Please send email instead of posting...

Thanks...	dan
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Dept of Computer Science                       ...!uunet!utai!utgpu!maccs!dan
McMaster University                                      (416) 525-9140 x3444
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: scott@ducky.ee.udel.edu (Doke)
Subject: Re: nntpxmit problem
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: news
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:21:43 GMT

In article <AJG.92Apr8165513@reef.cis.ufl.edu> ajg@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Arnold Goldberg) writes:
) 
) The problem I'm having stems from the fact that I have a file:
) 
) /usr/spool/news/out.going/nntp/file
) 
) that contains article xref of the form:
) 
) misc/legal/computing/925
) 
) my problem occurs because nntpsend (nntpxmit) wants an absolute
) path ie:
) 
) /usr/spool/news/misc/legal/computing/925
) 
) What do I have to patch and how .

    This group needs a FAQ.  I got around this by switching to 
nntplink.  The other solutions are to hack nntpxmit or change the 
nntpsend script as detailed in the article below.  

					    Doke

)Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
)Path: louie!udel!darwin.sura.net!jmalcolm
)From: jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm)
)Subject: Re: Cnews/nntpxmit incompatability
)Message-ID: <1992Feb24.180202.29523@sura.net>
)Sender: news@sura.net (USENET News System)
)Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
)References: <1992Feb19.070452.15072@news.gvl.unisys.com>
)<1992Feb19.140934.5914@
)rtpnc.epa.gov>
)Date: Mon, 24 Feb 1992 18:02:02 GMT
)
)In article <1992Feb19.140934.5914@rtpnc.epa.gov> fty@bizarre.rtpnc.epa.gov
)(Fran
)k Terhaar-Yonkers) writes:
)>>In article <1992Feb19.070452.15072@news.gvl.unisys.com>,
)markw@gvlf8-o.gvl.uni
)sys.com (Mark H. Weber) writes:
)>>
)>>I know I've seen this problem mentioned before, but I forget what
)>>the answer is.
)>>
)>>I'm putting the latest Cnews up on a new server here, and I've run
)>>across a problem with nntpxmit. The problem is that it expects the
)>>spool files to have absolute pathnames (like /usr/spool/news/to/gvlv2/1),
)>>but the latest Cnews writes them as relative (like to/gvlv2/1).
)>>
)>>What's the solution? Send email and I'll post a summary.
)>
)> [solution which throws away all the benefit that relative pathnames
)> give you deleted]
)
)No, no, no! That puts things right back where they were. Try something
)more like this:
)
)In nntpsend, try replacing the line that looks like
)
)                /bin/time nntpxmit ${host}:${send}
)
)with something like
)
)( cd /usr/spool/news; /bin/time nntpxmit ${host}:$batchdir/${send} )
)
)This makes sure that nntpxmit's current directory is set correctly on
)startup.
)
)--
)Joseph Malcolm                  (Yes, with two l's, dammit!)
)jmalcolm@sura.net

Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.newusers.questions
From: pk@hoss.unl.edu (Paul Kramer)
Subject: Remote accessible nntp feeds--is this public info?
Summary: Are nntp feeds public information?
Keywords: nntp, newsfeeds, newsreaders
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 13:05:12 GMT

Hello,

I realized over the weekend that from my newsreaders that I have installed on
my Macintosh and on my PC I can in theory access nntp newsfeeds at other places.

This struck me when I looked at some notes that I got when I logged into one of
the freenet sites.  It had a section on Internet and one of the things it listedwas places that had nntp newsfeeds.  Of the eight or so it  listed, one worked.
I was excited because this place had newsgroups that we didn't get.

My question is this: is it proper to access newsfeeds at other sites from my 
microcomputers.  If so, is there a list of feeds out there?  Do places even 
want to advertise this?

Paul Kramer

University of nebraska-Lincoln	Computing Resource Center
From: djd@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Daniel J. Dasaro)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: nntpxmit problem
Date: 11 Apr 92 22:24:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: eos.1992Apr11.222404.13769
Distribution: news
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center

ajg@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Arnold Goldberg) writes:


>The problem I'm having stems from the fact that I have a file:
>that contains article xref of the form:
>misc/legal/computing/925

>my problem occurs because nntpsend (nntpxmit) wants an absolute path

>What do I have to patch and how .
>Arnold

I just went through the same problem.  I discovered that the batch file
was being written by cnews' transmit.c (in the relay subdirectory in the
cnews source tree) and that the latest cnews had a change from the
previous cnews.

On or about line 142 in transmit.c you'll see these lines:
              mkfilenm(filename);
              fullname = artfile(filename);   /* N.B.: relative path */
              free(filename);


The middle line is of concern here.  I changed it to:
              fullname = fullartfile(filename);

which is the way it was in previous releases.  Artfile gives a relative
path while fullartfile provides a full path.  This should fix the batch
file and allow you to leave nntpsend alone.

-Dan Dasaro
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: nk4v@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Naohiro  Koshiya)
Subject: Help: Emacs rnews
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:44:19 GMT

Hi,

Anybody there knows HOW one can tell Emacs that the host uses NNTP.
How can Emacs rnews reach to NNTP host?

I'm a beginner on NNTP so please help me with any infomation on it.
Thanks.

Naohiro
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: djd@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Daniel J. Dasaro)
Subject: Re: nntpxmit problem
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: news
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:40:39 GMT

cudep@warwick.ac.uk (Ian Dickinson) writes:

>Which is easier?

>Adding a 'cd' to shell script?
>or
>Altering some C source, recompiling, reinstalling?

>I may as well add that doing the second loses performance unnecessarily,
>and keeps the backwards in backwards compatability.


The answer of what to do depends on what software the person is
running.  If you are using nntpsend or other shell-oriented
transmission controller (nntplink?), the "cd" command can be easily added.
If not, you must either modify the C code or change to a software
package that uses shell scripts.  Both options should be mentioned in
an FAQ so that a person having problems could pick the method that they
feel most comfortable with.

Also, the recompile and reinstallation was not too hard, I just recompiled
relaynews, which is all in one subdirectory, and moved one executable,
rather than reinstalling the whole package.

-Dan Dasaro
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: dan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Dan Trottier)
Subject: Re: nntp failing to spawn inews
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:08:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.200624.22555@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca> dan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Dan Trottier) writes:
>I'm running NNTP 1.5.11 and CNEWS 22-Dec-1991 on a Sun 4/280 under 
>Sun OS 4.1.1 and I'm getting an error message everytime someone tries
>to post an article from a remote machine. The error message is:

Solved. The problem was that the group being posted to wasn't in the ME:
line in the sys file. I was testing the problem and sending to local.test
was failing. Of course I removed local from the hierachies because we don't
want to accept local.all articles from other sites.

Thanks for the help...

dan
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Dept of Computer Science                       ...!uunet!utai!utgpu!maccs!dan
McMaster University                                      (416) 525-9140 x3444
From: cudep@warwick.ac.uk (Ian Dickinson)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: nntpxmit problem
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:26:01 GMT
Distribution: news
Organization: Team Limpid's Meathead With Aptitude - Kunst und Wahnsinn

In article <1992Apr11.222404.13769@eos.arc.nasa.gov> djd@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Daniel J. Dasaro) writes:
>I just went through the same problem.  I discovered that the batch file
>was being written by cnews' transmit.c (in the relay subdirectory in the
>cnews source tree) and that the latest cnews had a change from the
>previous cnews.
>
>On or about line 142 in transmit.c you'll see these lines:
>              mkfilenm(filename);
>              fullname = artfile(filename);   /* N.B.: relative path */
>              free(filename);
>
>The middle line is of concern here.  I changed it to:
>              fullname = fullartfile(filename);
>
>which is the way it was in previous releases.  Artfile gives a relative
>path while fullartfile provides a full path.  This should fix the batch
>file and allow you to leave nntpsend alone.

Which is easier?

Adding a 'cd' to shell script?
or
Altering some C source, recompiling, reinstalling?

I may as well add that doing the second loses performance unnecessarily,
and keeps the backwards in backwards compatability.

Cheers,
-- 
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Xref: sparky news.software.nntp:609 news.software.readers:1027
From: sycheng@csunix.csie.nctu.edu.tw (Shiao-Yang Cheng)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Remote posting problem
Date: 9 Apr 92 07:46:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: Silence.1992Apr9.074634.26218
Reply-To: sycheng@csunix.csie.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, Chiao Tung U., Taiwan, ROC

carson@tron.bwi.wec.com (Dana Carson) writes:
: 
:    I'm trying to get nntp, rrn etc. up and running.  Remote reading
: works nicely.  The configuration is
: 
: Decstation 5000/200 w. Ultrix 4.2
: rn 4.4
: cnews
: nntp 1.5.11
: 
: I might be missing the latest patch on the above but I think they're
: mostly up to date.
: 
:    Like I said reading works fin so I must be close to OK.  However
: attempting to post gives me an error in the nntp log file of
: 
: Apr  7 18:39:11.554 hyde.bwi.wec.com - <1992Apr7.223908.13777@tron.bwi.wec.com> no subscribed groups in `wec.bwi'
: 
: with a message from rrn of 
: 
: Article not accepted by server; not posted.
: /usr/local/lib/news/inews: article in
: /usr/users/admin/usenet/dead.articleArticl
: e appended to /usr/users/carson/dead.article
: A copy may be temporarily found in /usr/users/carson/.article
: 
: What did I miss in my configuration?  Where is the RTFM I forgot to
: read.
: --
: Dana Carson
: Westinghouse Electronic Systems Group  Mail Stop 1615
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  Maybe your News server reject your posting ! You may contact your news
administrator(s) (server's)!

  
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From: jmalcolm@sura.net (Joseph Malcolm)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: nntpxmit problem
Date: 11 Apr 92 02:44:16 GMT
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way

In article <1992Apr9.152143.9672@udel.edu> scott@ducky.ee.udel.edu (Doke) writes:
>    This group needs a FAQ.  I got around this by switching to 
>nntplink.  The other solutions are to hack nntpxmit or change the 
>nntpsend script as detailed in the article below.  

It would also be very nice if a new release of nntp could
be made with this patch applied.

-- 
Joseph Malcolm			(Yes, with two l's, dammit!)
jmalcolm@sura.net		
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp,news.software.readers
From: carson@tron.bwi.wec.com (Dana Carson)
Subject: Remote posting problem
Keywords: rrn nntp posting
Organization: Westinghouse Electric Corporation, Baltimore MD.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 06:14:13 GMT

   I'm trying to get nntp, rrn etc. up and running.  Remote reading
works nicely.  The configuration is

Decstation 5000/200 w. Ultrix 4.2
rn 4.4
cnews
nntp 1.5.11

I might be missing the latest patch on the above but I think they're
mostly up to date.

   Like I said reading works fin so I must be close to OK.  However
attempting to post gives me an error in the nntp log file of

Apr  7 18:39:11.554 hyde.bwi.wec.com - <1992Apr7.223908.13777@tron.bwi.wec.com> no subscribed groups in `wec.bwi'

with a message from rrn of 

Article not accepted by server; not posted.
/usr/local/lib/news/inews: article in
/usr/users/admin/usenet/dead.articleArticl
e appended to /usr/users/carson/dead.article
A copy may be temporarily found in /usr/users/carson/.article

What did I miss in my configuration?  Where is the RTFM I forgot to
read.
--
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From: darcey@coos.dartmouth.edu (Terrance M Darcey)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Need help getting Trumpet to work w/ localtalk
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:32:58 GMT
Distribution: news.software.nntp
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I'd like to get Trumpet working via localtalk using either a SUN/TOPS or
Farallon localtalk PC adapter.  Does Trumpet work with the localtlk.com
packet driver that's included in the Clarkson collection?  If not, is
there some other way to make it work?

Thanks in advance for any help.  E-mail replies preferred.

Terrance M. Darcey, PhD
terrance.m.darcey@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: rhb@hotsand.cnet.att.com (Rich Brandwein)
Subject: New Newreader Support (xrn, rn, vn)
Reply-To: rich.brandwein@att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs - Holmdel, NJ
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 23:56:40 GMT
Originator: rhb@hotsand
Keywords: nn newsreaders


We now have support for newsreaders other than nn for reading
local news on this bulletin board.  Siva has xrn up and running
as a front end - it can be found in /usr/add-on/CBNN/bin/xrn
(at least on hotspot).  xrn is a fantastic front-end.

I have also hacked a simple shell to get rn and vn running as 
front-ends.  Both are excellent front ends for non-X terminals.

Rich

-- 
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	Rich Brandwein		rich.brandwein@att.com
Newsgroups: news.software.nn
From: osiris@polari.com (David Ruggiero)
Subject: Reply function is broken...which mailer to use?
Organization: Seattle Online (polari)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 04:53:33 GMT

It has gradually dawned on us that mail sent from our site using nn's reply
function was going absolutely nowhere...after some detective work, we
determined the following was the problem:

When nn was setup at our site, it was configured to use rmail as the default
mailer. This doesn't work, because rmail can't accept mail in the form

           rmail < message      ...or...  rmail | message

the way the nn aux script wants to present it. The question is: which
mailer *do* people use with nn? Or is there some fancy shell statement
which can extract the To: line from the edited message and present it
to rmail? (because rmail expects:  rmail address < message ) Perhaps folks
can look in their local aux files and tell us what's on the lines beginning
with the string $MAILER? 

We are running AT&T V.4 version 3, if this changes your answer. Any and
all advice/speculation/kind words are appreciated, because both I and the
wizard in charge of nn are stumped and mailing is impossible from nn until
this is fixed. Thanks!

David
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