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From: gnreddy@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (G.Narotham Reddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Address of Business India
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:26:35 GMT
Organization: AT&T



  Business India,
  Wadia Bldg,
  17/19 Dalal Street, 
  Fort,  Bombay 400 001
  INDIA
  Tel + 91 (22)     27 4161/ 27  1558

Also Hindu:

  The Hindu, 
  Kasturi Bldg,
  859/860 Anna Salai,
  Madras 600002
  INDIA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nmohapat@pcocd2.intel.com (Nihar Mohapatra - IMD)
Subject: Test
Reply-To: nmohapat@pcocd2.intel.com (Nihar Mohapatra - IMD)
Organization: Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:36:23 GMT

This is a test.
--
Nihar Mohapatra
  Intel Corp., MS: FM2-60, 1900 Prairie City Rd, Folsom, CA 95630
  nmohapat@pcocd2.intel.com
  (916)351-3406
From: lzk60@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Lakshmankumar Mukkavilli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: 'Decline & Fall of American Programmer' by Edward Yourdon
Date: 17 Apr 92 21:11:04 GMT
Reply-To: lzk60@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

While I was in a local computer book store, I saw a big pile of
books titled 'Decline & Fall of American Programmer' by Edward Yourdon.
Edward Yourdon is a well known speaker/consultant and the developer of
Yourdon Structured Methodology. I spent a few minutes browsing through
the book.

His point seemed to be that Computer Programming profession in America
is under a serious threat. The threat is due to several technical
shortcomings and the attractions of doing software development
overseas. He singles out India for a long discussion(there is a section
titled Software Technology in India). The discussion predates recent
policy changes in India.

If you have read the book, perhaps you can post a review.
From: rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman)
Subject: Privilege committee and TN
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 21:25:14 GMT

Jayalaitha seems to be following the foot steps of her mentor to near
perfection. A recent news item in MNSC states that TN legislature has
served  notice to the editor and journalist of Illustrated Weekly to appear
before the privilege committee because of their article" TN assembly gaining
notoriety". 

This is a sickening news. I think it is high time this misuse of privilege
committee is put to an end. Probably the TN legislature can be renamed to
be a mental asylum.

Is there a legal means to strip the legislature off this privilege motion? 

raghavan
From: ps44+@andrew.cmu.edu (Preeti Sharma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Oops, posted on wrong subject
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:48:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Freshman, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Well, I am sorry I posted on the wrong subject, it was netirely by mistake, 
The essence of my post was essentially--
DID Mr. Ranjith R. Suresh just discover this BBoard or what?

Preeti
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: Indian Men
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:32:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.213551.26231@casbah.acns.nwu.edu> ram@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ram Devanathan) writes:

>       Some Indian women have a great sense of humor. They say things
>like, "ALL Indian men have these fixed notions about women".  They do
>have some admirers who ask questions like, "Oh sick Indian male. If
>your wife wants to streak through Central Park during the next lunar
>eclipse will you be so merciless that you will discourage her, you sicko!"


Another possibility is that one is seeing a widespread Vijay Rangarajan effect.
Could it be that in that seemingly straightforward post there was actually
a diabolically concealed vein of sarcasm  designed to evoke impotent
splutterings on the part of the earnest? :-)

George

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: raja@chroma.cps.msu.edu (Narayan S. Raja)
Subject: More on s.c.tamil
Reply-To: raja@cps.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University, CPS Department
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 16:53:04 GMT


From some (not all) postings, it seems 
that their motivation for s.c.tamil comes
more from resentment/grudge against 
``non-Tamil'', rather than any special 
interest in Tamil itself.  (Before
flaming me, think about it calmly and 
decide in your own heart whether what
I say is true).

Grudge-bearing is an ignoble motivation 
which can only harm Tamil culture -- by
creating a ``mutual admiration society'' 
and reinforcing the frog-in-the-well mentality
which over the centuries made us backward.


Meanwhile, it is clear that those who
are really interested in Tamil have had 
no problem posting their Tamil poems, 
jokes, slang, or discussion of history, 
coastlines, politics, or ANYTHING else.


So think about it.  Is it "love for
Tamil" or "dislike of someone else"
that's driving your bus?  If the latter --
is it good for you as a person?  Or will
it benefit Tamil culture? 


Narayan Sriranga Raja.

        ________    ________     __  __      ________ 
        |     |     |     |     (/ \/  )     |     |
        |     |     |     |           /      |     |
        |     |     |     |          /       |     |
        |     |     |     |         /        |     |
        |     |     |     |       _/ __      |     |
        |     |     |     |      (__/ \)     |     |
             /


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: podurys@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Podury Satyanarayan)
Subject: The World and Sanskrit (Re: On the existence of Paramatma)
Originator: podurys@mars.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:52:38 GMT


On a(n) (un)related note:

Interesting Sanskrit language origin of some English words:
(The following is only IMO; netters would disagree. No flames, please).

prophet:  'prabhat', meaning the coming of dawn.  

Jesus:  "isha", meaning God in Sanskrit.  I believe, in Germany, the letter
         'J' is pronounced as 'I'.  So, 'Jesus' would be pronounced as
         'Isus'.  The similarity is apparent.  (Any knowledgeable netter out 
          there who could throw more light on this?)


Also, is there a word 'brua', or 'bhruva' in Sanskrit?  I believe it
means 'language', or some similar meaning.  If it does, then there is
another interesting word-derivation.  The word 'hebrew' means 'shiva brua',
or 'shiva's language'.  Now, I was told by this philosopher (indian), that
Jewism is basically a religion following a reincarnation of Shiva.  In the
middle-east and the Europian continent, people pronounce 's' as 'h'.
Therefore, 'shiva (or siva)' would be pronounced as 'hiva'. (Another
example of this, Sindhustan is pronounced as Hindustan).


Again, there is a native pueblo-indian (?) language, there is a word
called 'Kiva'. (I know this because of a software package by this name
that I have used in the past).  Now, 'Kiva' means an oblong stone, half
buried in the ground, and used by the natives in some religious ceremonies.
Does the object sound familiar?  I think it represents the 'sivalinga', 
which for us represents Shiva(siva).  Let's look at this word 'Kiva'
from another angle.  In English, sometimes the letter 'c' is pronounced
as the letter 'k'.  As in 'cat', catch'.  There are other times when it
is pronounced as 's'. As in 'century', certain'.  So, if we write the
word 'Siva' as 'Civa', some people may pronounce 'Civa' as 'Siva',
while others, not knowing the origin of the word, may pronounce
'Civa' as 'Kiva'!  In whatever way one may pronounce the word, it
still seems to represent an object similar to the sivalinga.  This
seems to show, albiet very weakly, the the presence/influence of
Siva/Hinduism on this continent.


Well, if nothing else, they did raise my idle curiosity, and I thought
it was interesting.

I have not written this post to flame any particular religion/faith.
Comments from others, especially the people mentioned above, would
be very welcome.


satya podury

-- 
Might is Right!
Statutory disclaimer:  All opinions expressed herein are solely mine.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: akhoche%rolls.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Ajay Khoche)
Subject: Info urgently wanted.
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:48:23 MDT
Keywords: B1
Organization: University of Utah
Distribution: usa

   A friend of mine is joining a school this term. He is on B1 visa and needs to
apply for a change of status to F. He wants to know the procedure, et al for the
same. Should he go thru an attorney, or directly apply. If anyone out there has
an experience/knowledge about the same, please send email to me. 

   I am sorry for the yet-another-visa question. But my friend desperately needs
to know the things. 

   Thanks in advance,


- ajay.
From: rtt1@cec1.wustl.edu (Rajan T Thampi)
Subject: Re: Oriental bias against Indians ? How true ?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:04:50 GMT

>ut-emx.uucp> vishram@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Vishram P.Dalvi) writes:
>>	I knew a pretty Asian-American (Oriental) girl who lived in
>>my apartment complex and had developed a liking for her. So after I 
>>thought I knew her fairly well, I was contemplating asking her out 
>>on a date. ...
>>	This friend just asked me to FORGET THE GIRL. He told me that
>>no Oriental girl will go for an Indian. They might go for Caucasians
>>(no racial thoughts on MY part here) probably, but most of them are
>>told by their parents (or atleast given the idea) that Indians are poor,
>>ignorant, good-for-nothin peasants. 
>>	So I spoke with a couple of other Asian-American friends and
>>they too kind of echoed the same thought. Let me clarify here by telling
>>that NONE of these friends is a RACIST or Indian-hater, in fact all my
>>room-mates and I get along EXTREMELY well with them and we have a lot of
>>social interaction. So I completely ruled out any feelings of personal
>>prejudices coming into the picture.
>

	In Malaysia, where the population is comprised of Malays, Chinese, &
	Indians, Indians are commonly known derogatorily as 'tambis'.  The   
	history behind this is quite interesting.  When the British were
	ruling there, they brought labourers from India and Sri Lanka to 
	work in the rubber plantations of Malaya.  Most of the labourers
	were Tamilians from Tamil Nadu and Sri Lanka.  In Tamil, the 
	word tambi is commonly used to refer to another in conversation as
	brother.  The local Malays and Chinese having picked up this common
	usage of the word in the Tamil language, started referring to them as
	'tambis' and the word has stuck since.  I have Malay and Chinese friends	who have only had the mentality that Indians are of 'dark and black'
	skin colour.  They sometimes laugh at anything Indian with the 
	assumption that it is low down.  These friends are in general not 
	racists, but have had that mentality about Indians and India due to the
	fact that most of the Indian settlers were labourers when they first 
	came.  I have had many arguments with regard to this matter.  I could 
	have socked :-) the person's face the other when a Malay girl asked me
	why the Indians here, including myself, were so fair in comparison to 
	the Indians in Malaysia who were so, in her own words, 'dark and black'. 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vermav@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Vipul Verma)
Subject: Travel to India
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 18:44:57 GMT

Hi !

Folowing up my last posting about cheap deals to India, I hear that 
Romanian Airlines offer the cheapest deals and also they fly only to
Calcutta.

I would like to know of your travel experiances, if any, with Romanian Airlines
Please send your replies to the any of the addresses listed below.

Thanx in advance.

vipul.
-- 
Vipul Verma
Dept. of Electrical Engg.                      vermav@ucunix.san.uc.edu
Univ. of Cincinnati                            vermav@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
                                               vverma@uceng.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bharat@88opensi.88open.ORG (Bharat Kurani)
Subject: Software India'92 at Red Lion Hotel, San Jose CA
Organization: 88open Consortium Ltd., San Jose
Distribution: regional
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 17:24:23 GMT

Indian Consulate at San Francisco is organising

Software India'92 on Tuesday, april 14, 1992

at

Red Lion Hotel
2050 Gateway Place
San Jose CA 95512

---------------


There will be indian computer companies. The idea is to
court American companies to start business in india.

For further information contact Indian Consulate at San Francisco

415 668 0727 / 415 668 0967

 Bharat Kurani				Phone: 408-436-6608
 88open Consortium, Ltd.		Fax:   408-436-0725
 100 Homeland Court, Suite 800		email uunet!88opensi!bharat
 San Jose, CA 95112
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Re: IMPACT OF ECONOMIC REFORMS
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:00:59 GMT

scindia@IASTATE.EDU (Shekhar K Scindia) writes:

>         I hear a lot of talk these days about India on the road to riches .

> All only because of the economic reforms recently introduced . 

> Imagine 1 Dollar = 1 Ruppee !

> Many among us would start packing their bags if that happens !!

> This thought is conservative ! There is one real optimistic Indian here

> who feels the day is not far when we may have 1 Ruppee = 30 Dollars !!!!!

> Now that's going a bit too far I think !
It is not entirely unthinkable. Unless the USA does something
about the outrageous costs of medical care and litigation
in this economy, I am afraid it is downhill. A lot of
innocent people are going to lose their shirts in the bargain.
That may include many of us desis. Who knows we may be back in
our motherland in search of "opportunities and better prospects"!

- Ganesh

Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14647 soc.culture.bangladesh:2499 soc.culture.pakistan:6645
From: nipa@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Nipa Mehta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Marriage and related issues - My view
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:12:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: oakhill.1992Apr14.191234.7929
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin Tx.

I agree with what Harsh Thaker has to say especially about the part in which
a woman contributes as much to a marraige as a man even though she is not
the bread-winner, but a house wife instead, as many indian women.  The 
concept of partnership is very important in marraige, and the partner who is
better equipped with gets the money and the other may run the household/or
work.  If you keep in mind that both of them are responsible for the harmony
in the marraige, then it is only fair to give both partners an equal say in 
the decisions that affect them.  (Aside:  I could never put a price on the 
time and efforts that my mother has spent in bringing me up even though she
is not a 9-5_salary_earner.  Actually a womans job goes beyond 9-5, it is more
like 9-9).
This is about the Manushi article that the original poster is referring to.  As
I recall, it stated that the property earned after the marraige, that should
be owned jointly, and if you are equal partners in the marraige then all the
things (material or othewise) that result after the marraige should be 
owned jointly between the two spouses.

Nipa M.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chaw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (###.C.H.A.W.###)
Subject: Re: soc.culture.indian.looking_for
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:40:30 GMT

arora@ecs.umass.edu writes:

>What about the idea of having a seperate news group called
>soc.culture.indian.looking_for
>I am sure that this will be a popular news group and it is certainly
>in big demand.

Well, how about having a separate news group called
soc.culture.indian.lets-split-it-to-bits ?

And gee..how about having a newspaper called Chronicle.advertisements
for that matter? Or a channel Fox.commercials? All great ideas!

-Chaw
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Subject: Arranged vs love marriages
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:03:56 GMT

The discussion on arranged vs. love marriages reminds me of the following written by James Metcalfe :

            The Friend In You

  My days are bright with happiness
  My skies are always blue
  And life itself is wonderful
  Cause I've found a friend in you

  The kind of friend whose friendship
  Is everything it seems
  Who shares my fondest hopes with me
  And understands my dreams

  Who constantly inspires me
  To put my fears away
  Who seems to read my very thoughts
  And knows just how I feel

  The world is gay and colourful
  And life itself is new
  I'm madly happy for myself
  Cause I've found a friend in you

-------- Vijay
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Central Asian Republics and the Subcontinent
Date: 9 Apr 1992 15:15:48 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: pageboy.cs.utexas.edu

In article <9341@harrier.ukc.ac.uk> nc2@ukc.ac.uk (N.Chadha) writes:
>
>	I am doing research on the subcontinent region. I would like to
>collect as much information as possible on two major issues.
>
>1) How are Pakistan and India developing relations with the newly formed
>central asian republics of the former Soviet Union.

I heard somebody as saying that Uzbekistan has cancelled a contract
with India, because it was infavorably biased in India's favor.?

In another unrelated news:

Pakistan has recently signed 6000MW electricity contract with
Tadjikistan?



>
>2) What is pakistan doing to implement General Mirza Aslam Beg's doctrine of
>strategic depth? By this I am refering to the attempts by Pakistan to bring
>about a muslim block comprising of Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran, Turkey and the
>Central Asian republics.
>
>	Also if anyone can provide information of any transfer of Nuclear
>Technology (material or expertise) to any islamic country in the Middle East
>or Pakistan from the Central Asian Republics especially Kajaskhtan.

This ought to be classified information in Pakistan.

Try contacting C.I.A operatives in Islamabad!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nmohapat@frx100.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Nihar Mohapatra - IMD)
Subject: Re: Need list of courier/Express mail service from New Delhi
To: prastogi@netcom.com (Parag Rastogi)
Organization: WCDP
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:58:33 GMT


You can use DHL to send packages to India.  I don't know their, but they should
be in the phone book

--
Nihar Mohapatra
  Intel Corp., MS: FM2-60, 1900 Prairie City Rd, Folsom, CA 95630
  nmohapat@pcocd2.intel.com
  (916)351-3406
From: rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Final note....?
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:46:11 GMT
Organization: Junior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

If my postings are so offensive,  just think how thousands
of SL Tamils felt after IPKF turned the guns on them.
And what they proceeded to do. It's a big tragedy. But, what me and
quite a few other SL Tamils are fired up about is most Indians'
reluctance or their deniability in India's responsibilty in the whole
affair.  Why? 
Till then its a burning issue for many.... Or is it that one politician's life
is far valuable than a few thousands?  Is that the prevailing attitude?
From: thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Final note....?
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:21:42 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


>reluctance or their deniability in India's responsibilty in the whole
>affair.  Why? 


Ya you will blame everything on India. We gave support, we took many refugees 
from SL and we lost our soldiers...

Let me tell you again. The worst enemy for the people of nortern sri-lanka is
not India not the Lankan army but blood thristy LTTE


If this is the final note from you I will be really happy. Leave us alone do
not screw around our people (people of TN and India)
From: alagappan@bagels.enet.dec.com (Kandha Alagappan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for CS SUNDAR, Univ of New Orleans
Date: 3 Apr 92 23:44:37 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Hello,
	I am looking for 

	CS Sundar (Cuddalore Subramanian Sundar)
	Was doing his Ph. D. in Business Administration at Univ of New Orleans
	during the year 1987.

	Came to Tulane, New Orlean in 1984 and transferred to UNO.

	Graduated from Annamalai Univ, Chidambaram, T.Nadu, India in 1984
	with BE Mech.

	If anyone know about his whereabouts, please give me a call or
	send mail.

Thanks
Kandha Alagappan
508-486-5163
From: partha@mse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian children for Camel Races
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:54:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36032
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering

This news bit appeared in misc.news.southasia. There has been
a discussion on this net on this topic. For those who wanted
to believe it, I guess this news is authentic enough to be a proof.

Partha sarathy

Text begins:
-----------------------------------------------------------------
>From: BALKI_R1@blrv1.verifone.com (M.G.Balakrishna Rao)
>From	: M.G.Balakrishna Rao
Date	: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 21:37 -1000
Source	: Deccan Herald, (Bangalore), April 3 - 6, 1992
Country	: India, Pakistan

			* * *

KIDS BEING SOLD IN ORISSA, SAYS MPs
NEW DELHI - Children, many of them just 6 months old, are being 
sold by their impoverised parents in the poverty-sticken tribal 
areas of Orissa for a paltry Rs. 20 a child. There is flourishing 
racket in buying Bangladeshi children and sending them to the Arab 
countries via India for being used inhuman camel races. This was 
informed in the Loksabha today by some MPs.

--------------------------------------------------------------------
Text ends:

Why can't international media be enlightened about these inhuman
practices and something can be done?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: manu@tigger.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: Food for thought?(Indian Men and Feminism)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 04:30:07 GMT

In article <9204110407.AA12838@ho12.eng.ua.edu> bkannan@HO12.ENG.UA.EDU (Balaji Kannan) writes:
>
>     Some food for thought here;  
>
>     Bischoff, one of the leading anatomists of Europe, thrived
>     some 70 years ago. He carefully measured brain weights, and
>     after many year's accumulation of much data he observed that 
>     the average weight of a man's brain was 1350 grams, that of
>     a woman only 1250 grams. This at once he argued was infallible
>     proof of the mental superiority of men over women. Throughout
>     his life he defended his hypothesis with the conviction of a
>     Zealot. Being the true Scientist, he specified in his will
>     that his own brain be added to his impressive collection. The
>     postmortem examination elicited the interesting fact that his
>     own brain weighed only 1245 grams.

So?!?

Njan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian