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From: dongray@cdclu1.genrad.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: ReHelp : Error for Background on VAX/VMS
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:19:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>    o  my executed program is dttan.exe
>    o  I create the file "batch_job.com" that contain
>                    "$run/time_limit=0/output=dttan.dat dttan"

Specifying /time_limit will mean an implicit /detach. I.e. the batch job will
attempt to create a detached process.

>    o  I use the command "submit batch_job.com"

You should use "submit/cputime=0 batch_job.com" (after removing the /time_limit
from the .copm file)

>    o  then I get the message :
>
>       Job batch_job (queue SYS$BATCH, entry 560) started on SYS$BATCH
>
>       Job batch_job (queue SYS$BATCH, entru 560) teminated with error status
>       %SET-E-NOMSG, Message number 1077808A

This is "%SET-E-NOTSET, error modifying <something>". Probably your login.com
tries to do "SET TERM ..." without checking that there is a terminal. Batch
jobs don't have terminals. For a minimal fix, put the line ...

    $ if f$mode() .nes. "INTERACTIVE" then exit

at the start of your login.com. (There are obviously better ways to handle
this).

>    o  I use the command "show queue", then get
>
>       Jobname         Username     Entry  Blocks  Status
>       -------         --------     -----  ------  ------
>       batch_job       7822044        560       3  Retained on error
>         %SYSTEM-F-NOSUCHOBJ, network object is unknown at remote node

I don't understand this. The queue system should be separate from any network
operation.

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> And, I tried the other method :
>
>      $run/detached/time_limit=0/output=dttan.dat dttan
>
> the error is :
>
>      %RUN-F-CREPRC, process creation failed
>      -SYSTEM-F-EXPRCLM, exceeded process limit

You probably aren't allowed to run detached processes. It should work as a
batch job.

>     What is the error?  Could you give me a example to do it?

Create batch_job.com containing ("$" in column 1) ...

   $ define/user sys$output dttan.dat
   $ run dttan

Issue the command ...

   $ submit batch_job

>     thankx in advance....
>                                                   Sbin Lin
> 					Internet : u7822044@cc.nctu.edu.tw
> 					Bitnet   : 7822044@TWNCTU02.BITNET

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Name : Derek Dongray, Systems Manager, GenRad Ltd.
Phone : 061 486 1511 ext 166
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From: DAN@OJC.Colorado.EDU (Kornphuzed Kid!!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: WANTED: Extracting utility for VMS_SHARE
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:48:49 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

In a message received on  3 Sep 1992, 19:01
Computer Center Ext. 6839 <DION@OJC.Colorado.EDU> wrote to INFO-VAX@KL.SRI.COM

>I was wondering if anyone would happen to have a utility that extracts VMS_SHARE
>files in the correct order.

I wrote a crude but effective .COM file the other day that seems to work pretty
good.  You should find it after my .SIG box.  Hope this helps. :-)

P.S.
	Feel free to modify as needed for yur site or personal preferences.


vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
 \ Dan Hartless                          | God, give me the serenity to     /
   \ Student Programmer                  | accept the things I cannot     /
    \ Otero Junior College               | change, the courage to change /
      \ La Junta, CO                     | the things I can and the    /
       \ Internet:  Dan@OJC.Colorado.edu | wisdom to distinguish one  /
         \ Bitnet: < Zip, Zero, Zilch >  | from the other.          /
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

             --------------------  Cut here  --------------------
$!	FILE:			MAIL_EXT.COM
$!	PURPOSE:		Extracts VMS_SHARE and other multiple part files
$!				out in order
$!	RESTRICTIONS:		SUBJECT: line must have the part number in it
$	set noverify
$	count = 0
$	n = 19                  	! Number of parts.
$	folder = "<folder>"      	! Name of folder to extract from.
$	file = "<path for directory>"	! file to output to.
$	format = ""			! Format of SUBJECT: line with part #
$!					! e.g. VMS_SHARE part 001-of-030
$!					!	format would be "-"
$!					!      VMS_SHARE part 001
$!					!	format would be " " or ""
$ start:
$	count = count + 1
$	if count .gt. n then goto exit
$	open/write command mail_ext.txt
$	write command "select ''folder'"
$	str_count = f$string(count)
$	diff = 3 - (f$len(str_count))
$	if diff .eq. 2 then str_count = "00" + str_count
$	if diff .eq. 1 then str_count = "0" + str_count
$	write command "dir/sub=''str_count'''format'"
$	write command "ext/all/app ''file'"
$	write command "exit"
$	close command
$	define/user sys$input mail_ext.txt
$	mail
$	delete mail_ext.txt;*
$	goto start
$ exit:
$	exit
From: ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Runoff
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:37:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> We have documentation in electronic format of our library software
> documentation in runoff format.  I am unfamiliar with this format and am just
> beginning to learn vax/vms.  Is there a program that will convert runoff to
> ascii?

What about the RUNOFF command ?

                                                          Arne

Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK
From: acm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Looking for MACRO/VAXC example to grab the PSL
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:52:15 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University

In a previous article, robc@crash.cts.com (Robert Cowan) wrote:
> 
>   Does anybody have an example of grabbing the VAX processor status longword
>and testing its flags from C (MACRO would be great also)?  If so, could you
>please mail or post it for me?
>   I would like to grab and test the T-bit to detect if trace is on within a
>program.
> 
>Thanks in advance,
>Robert (robc@cyber.net || robc@crash.cts.com)


   How about:

	MOVPSL	R6		; ANY REG WILL DO, I LIKE TO BEAT UP R6
	BITL	R6,#32		; 32 IS BIT 4   THE T-BIT
	BEQL	10$
	JMP	T_OFF		; T-BIT IS OFF
10$:	JMP	T_ON		; T-BIT IS ON




+----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
| Anthony C. McCracken                   |                                   |
| Northern Arizona University            | Boom boom boom,,, Still going !   |
| Flagstaff, Arizona                     |                                   |
|                                        | VMS just keeps going and going and|
| acm@nauvax                   BitNet    | going.  Nothing outlasts VAX/VMS. |
| acm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu       Internet  |                                   |
| 602.523.9422.us.west         Noise net |                                   |
+----------------------------------------+-----------------------------------+
From: BRANDT@AdminA.RFERL.ORG ("Thomas Brand, Room K2, Phone 3723.")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Known Image confusion
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:03:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>Here's a puzzler.  Anybody ever seen F$FILE_ATTRIBUTE and INSTALL this
>confused?
>
>$ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$FILE_ATTRIBUTE("DISK:[DIR]MYFILE.EXE","KNOWN")
>%SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file
>\DISK:[DIR]MYFILE.EXE\
>$ DIRECTORY DISK:[DIR]MYFILE.EXE
>Directory DISK:[DIR]
>MYFILE.EXE;1
>Total of 1 file.


>$ INSTALL LIST/FULL DISK:[DIR]MYFILE.EXE
>DISK:<DIR>.EXE
>   MYFILE
>%INSTALL-E-NOVER, no file version obtained for    MYFILE
>%SYSTEM-W-NOSUCHFILE, no such file

>$ INSTALL ADD DISK:[DIR]MYFILE.EXE/OPEN/HEADER/SHARE
>%INSTALL-E-FAIL, failed to CREATE entry for DISK:<DIR>MYFILE.EXE
>-INSTALL-E-EXISTS, Known File Entry for a version of this file already exists

>Now, an INSTALL REPLACE works just fine. 

>I'm also not sure how I managed to get MYFILE into this situation -- 
>I'm not sure how to replace it.


the above command looks to see if the lastest version of MYFILE.EXE is an
install image.  Your directory command shows that the latest VERSION is
MYFILE.EXE;1 -- this image is NOT installed know.  This leads me to suspect
that there was a HIGHER version numbered EXE installed, then you :
1) created a new (higher version)
2) purged/keep=1 all lower versions
3) renamed the  highest version to MFILE.EXE;1

When you INSTALL an image /HEADER_RESIDENT, you place a copy of the files
header into memory.  Now any lookup of the file when you want to EXECUTE it,
uses the FID, not the filename. DIR/FULL shows the FID :
MYFILE.EXE;1                  File ID:  (4655,6,0)         

However, F$FILE_ATTRIBUTE lexical is not looking up an IMAGE to execute, it is
getting File Attributes... so, it looks at the file you specify by name, not
by FID.

The INSTALL LIST fails, since it is trying to do a "reverse lookup" of the
filename, eg, it knows the FID (since that's whats stored in memory) and is
now looking for the Name ofthe file accocieated with this FID. But there is
no file for this FID anymore since it was deleted/purged.

The Install ADD fails since an image using that name is already installed,

The INSTALL REPLACE works, since it doesn't need to look up the old filename. 
It just will replace the old FID accociated with this image with the FID of
the newest (highest version) file.
From: rcbi110@marshall.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: How to see decw$xxxx on another screen?
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:12:59 GMT
Organization: Marshall University


I want to do the following but it doesn't work:

Telnet from a dec5000/200 with ultrix to a microvax3100
run decw$whatever, but have it show up on the 5000's screen where I am sitting.

My eyeballs are bugging out, I am so tired of reading "decmanualese" that I
can't make heads of tails of it anymore.  So PLAIN ENGLISH is appreciated :^)

((   ||  /\\ \\  / /\\  ((      R. Alan Monroe       ((  I'm not an actor, ((
 )) _// /--\\ \\/ /--\\  )) rcbi110@muvms3.wvnet.edu  )) but I play one     ))
((              _       ((                           ((  on T...   Hey!!   ((
 ))  ||  /\\  //  ||_/   ))    Pinkwater Rules!       )) Who wrote this     ))
((  _// /--\\ \\_ || \  ((            :^)            ((  script!?!?!   -me ((
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: sfr@wcusv1.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Steven Schaeffer)
Subject: Re: UCX V2.0
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 21:14:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.031931.3807@spcvxb.spc.edu>, terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes:
|> In article <0096050E.6CCC2E80.32132@rhea.informatik.uni-bonn.de>, stangen@RHEA.INFORMATIK.UNI-BONN.DE (Gregor von Stangen) writes:
|> > 	- When one FTP'ed to a VAX running UCX < V2.0 from a UNIX host and
|> > 	  typed "DIR" the user saw a bug - or feature ? - or just stupidy ?
|> > 	  and didn't only get a full VMS directory listing but also annoyed.
|> > 	  Is this still implemented or is it "corrected" now ???
|> 
|>   I don't know. If a) my ConDist ever gets here and b) it has the correct UCX
|> V2.0 on it (the non-crashing one 8-), I'll check. I'd hope that it's a bug and
|> that it's been fixed.
|> 
|> > 	- Am I now able to setup an anonymous FTP server with UCX V2.0 ??
|> 
|>   I don't believe you'll be able to get a true anonymous server, although you
|> may be able to get by with a nopassword ANONYMOUS account (mind the security
|> implications, though). Once my copy gets here I'll probably look at porting
|> the new Unix `ftpd' (the V6.something) one to run under UCX. If I get anywhere,
|> I'll announce it here and on vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.ucx.
|> 
|> 	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
|> 	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
|> 	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381

The "DIR" output now (and boy am I glad) looks like:

FTP>dir
200 PORT command sucessful.
150 Opening data connection for ICAES:[SFR]*.*.* (address deleted)
LOGIN.COM;23
LOGIN.COM;22

================================================================================
Steven J. Schaeffer         Ma Bell: (208) 526-8543      "If it ain't broke...
EG&G Idaho, Inc.            FTS:           583-8543       don't fix it!"
P.O. Box 1625               Internet: sfr@inel.gov
Idaho Falls, ID 83415-3418  FAX:     (208) 526-1998
================================================================================
========== long legal disclaimer follows, press n to skip ===========

Neither the United States Government or the Idaho National Engineering
Laboratory or any of their employees, makes any warranty, whatsoever,
implied, or assumes any legal liability or responsibility regarding any
information, disclosed, or represents that its use would not infringe
privately owned rights.  No specific reference constitutes or implies
endorsement, recommendation, or favoring by the United States
Government or the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory.  The views and
opinions expressed herein do not necessarily reflect those of the
United States Government or the Idaho National Engineering Laboratory,
and shall not be used for advertising or product endorsement purposes.
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:14883 comp.org.decus:816 vmsnet.misc:823
From: doug@owl.isis.org (Douglas W Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.org.decus,vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: Looking for software reviewers
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:48:09 GMT
Organization: Quoi! me organized?

synful@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Marc Shannon) writes:

> I'm looking for a few people to help review the DECUS Spring '92 VAX/L&T SIG
> tape software collection.
> 
> If you're interested, please reply back to this address.
> 
> --Marc Shannon
>   DECUS Library Review Coordinator
> 
> -- 
Hi Marc,

If canadian sites are acceptable, send me a e-mail at the address below.  I 
would be more than happy to give you a hand.

Doug! {doug@owl.isis.org}
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VMS Accounting Question...
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:33:31 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Scott Daniels, SRD@RCKHRST1, wrote:

>Is there a way to have ACCOUNTING use a file other than ACCOUNTNG.DAT when
>genreating reports for output ?  

I checked the manuals briefly, and didn't find a mention of a logical to 
move the ACCOUNTNG.DAT file off the system disk, although I'm sure there
is such a logical.

>Are accounting files are closed and renamed
>at the end of every month, and we would like to get some data from an older
>file that is not called ACCOUNTNG.DAT.  

They aren't closed and renamed by default.  This is part of my daily system
management batch job.  This portion executes at EOM:

  $  DATE_STAMP = F$CVTIME(,,"DAY") + "-" + F$CVTIME(,"ABSOLUTE","MONTH") + -
     "-" + F$CVTIME(,,"YEAR")
  $! create new accounting file
  $    RENAME SYS$MANAGER:ACCOUNTNG.DAT -
       SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR]ACCOUNTNG.DAT_'DATE_STAMP'
  $    SET ACCOUNTING/NEW

Then you can use something like:

  $ ACCOUNTING SYS$MANAGER:ACCOUNTNG.DAT_01-SEP-1992 

to read the old files.

-Dan Wing, DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU or WING_D@UCOLMCC.BITNET (DGW11)
 Systems Programmer, University Hospital, Denver

Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:14845 news.software.readers:1772 vmsnet.misc:818
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,news.software.readers,vmsnet.misc
Subject: VNEWS: Help needed with kill files
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:45:00 GMT
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC

I have finally come to the decision that net.cluelesness has gotten so
bad that I need to use kill files.  I have seen the VNEWS documentation
on kill files, but it really didn't tell me a whole lot.  Mainly, what I
am interested in knowing is this:

Which header lines are affected? (I seem to recall hearing that only
certain lines are looked at when killing an article, not the entire
header like most Unix newsreaders)

Is the killing function case-sensitive? (i.e. do I have to enter stuff
in both upper case and lower case if need be)

If I kill a cross-posted article in one group, will it kill the article
in the other groups as well? (in some cases, this would work out fine
for me;  in others, it certainly wouldn't)

I know I had other questions when I first thought of this, but I can't
seem to think of them.  If anyone responds, they'll probably come to
mind then.  Thank you in advance for your response.

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From: dragon@NSCVAX.PRINCETON.EDU (Mighty Firebreather)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: HELP! Damaged disk
Date: 5 Sep 92 19:13:01 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	Erkki Aalto <Erkki.Aalto@Helsinki.FI> writes:
>
>Lightning has damaged directory information on a MicroVAX II disk in Mets{hovi
>Observatory. The disk contains two weeks' astronomical measurements.
>DEC would take FIM 800 per hour for salvaging the data. Does anyone have any
>experience on cases like this? Is there something we could do ourselves,
>and approximately how long would it take from DEC?
>

	Before you do *anything* else, do BACKUP /PHYSICAL ddcn:.  Having 
done this, you can always return to where you are now, regardless of any
further damage done in your efforts to recover your data.

	What you can do depends very strongly on exactly what has happened 
to the drive.  In the simplest case, you can use ANALYZE /DISK_STRUCTURE 
/REPAIR /CONFIRM ddcn: to locate all the files that are not entered in a
directory and enter them in ddcn:[SYSLOST].

	If INDEXF.SYS has been damaged, the outlook is poor since this is
where the pointers to the disk blocks owned by the file are stored.  In
this case, the only thing that I can suggest would be to start examinining
all the space on the disk that is not pointed to by the remaining entries
in INDEXF.SYS to try to identify the contents.  Recovery at this level is
probably possible only as a joint effort between DEC and the owners of the
data, DEC supplying the knowledge of ODS-2 and the tools to be used and the
owners of the data identifying what they can. 

*************************************************************************
*                                                                       *
*                        Here, there be dragons!                        *
*                      dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu                      *
*                                                                       *
*                                                Richard B. Gilbert     *
*************************************************************************

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag)
Subject: Re: anyone patched SWiM for VMS 5.5?
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:11:09 GMT
X-Copyright1: Fuer Veroeffentlichungen AUSSERHALB des Newssystemes gelten MEINE Geschaeftsbedingungen.
X-Copyright2: Nichtbeachtung wird in der Regel zivil- und strafrechtliche Folgen nach sich ziehen.
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <4156251@zl2tnm.gen.nz> don@zl2tnm.gen.nz writes:

> The DEC person has no right to say that other parts of the system won't be
> supported.  They will have the right to say "hard cheese" if the TW/PY 
> drivers do cause problems.  Complain.  Bitterly.

I cannot. I'm no system manager, only a little student consultant without
any privileges. sigh.

Our system manager heard that DEC told him "DON'T DO IT!" and no one in the
world can change his mind now (besides DEC-support Munich itself).

He wants to be on the saftey side and don't want any trouble which can
propably perturb his system. An unsupported device driver is such a
troublemaker in his mind.


Back to my question: does anyone have a patch for SWiM to run with the
FTAs?


\  Ulli 'Framstag' Horlacher    \    psi%0262450502601::rzmain::orakel  \
 \  Student consultant VAX/VMS and networks   \  orakel@dulruu51.bitnet  \
  \  Rechenzentrum  Universitaet Ulm  Germany  \    orakel@rz.uni-ulm.de  \
   \  "With mainframes you just can do nonsense, with PCs not even that."  \
From: brown@caer.uky.edu (Eva Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: dsnlink
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:19:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet


 
Is there anyone one using DSNLINK?  Any disadvantages or problems?
From: viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Piping and re-directing data in VMS ?
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:16:18 GMT


  I have a two releated questions:

1. How could I pass the data from e.g. terminal
to two programs/subprocesses running simultaneously
on VAX/VMS ? Could it be done using $QIO or what ?

2. How could I pipe data from e.g. terminal through
one program and re-direct it to another one ?

  Many thanks for any suggestions.
S.V.

P.S. In UNIX there would be no such questions, but
in VMS it seems more complicated...
From: dongray@cdclu1.genrad.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: lpr, lpq, lprm for VMS+UCX?
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:35:35 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I seem to remember seeing this asked before, but ...

I have installed Dietmar Berg's LPD server for VMS and it seems to work quite
well. What I'd like to do now is use an lpr/lpq/lprm set on all our VMS
machines to centralize the pirnt processing. So ...

Has anyone written/ported lpr/lpq/lprm for VMS (5.5) and UCX (1.3A)? If so is
it available on a mail-server?

Thanks in advance. I'll summarize if there are many replies.

Derek.
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Name : Derek Dongray, Systems Manager, GenRad Ltd.
Phone : 061 486 1511 ext 166
PSS : 234261600119::Dongray                 UKnet : Derek.Dongray@GenRad.co.uk
InterNet : Dongray@cdclu1.GenRad.com        CompuServe : 70374,2745
Address : Monmouth House, Monmouth Road, Cheadle Hulme, Cheshire, SK8 7AY, UK.
From: tillman@swdev.si.com ("Brian Tillman, Smiths Industries, VAX Support, x8425")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Montoring the use of REPLY (SAK 92_14)
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:51:54 GMT
Organization: The Internet

>I have a need to monitor all messages sent using the DCL REPLY/USER command and
>save them to a log file.

Something seems wrong with this picture.  REPLY/USER requires OPER privilege to 
even use, so there should be no one other than your operators using this 
facility.  If people other than operators and system managers have OPER 
privilege, then you have a much more basic problem than logging broadcast 
messages.  Fix the real problem first!

-----------------------------+--------------------------------
 Brian Tillman               | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com
 Smiths Industries, Inc.     |
 4141 Eastern Ave., MS129    | Hey, I said this stuff myself.
 Grand Rapids, MI 49518-8727 | My company has no part in it.
-----------------------------+--------------------------------
From: palmer@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Help with VMS Help Please
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:15:28 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology


I am creating a VMS help library. I understand how the help levels stuff goes
in the .HLP file. The problem I am getting is that my line breaks occur in
funny places due to the indenting that VMS help does. I have vague
recollections of DSR (Runoff) supporting it but have no template and it's
years since I touched Runoff. Any help will be appreciated.


Greg Palmer.
G.Palmer@qut.edu.au