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From: cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Colin Adams)
Subject: Re: AA chipset in the A3000 -> I expect it!
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 10:37:49 GMT

In article <Mike_Noreen.07m8%cave@sweden.eu.net> Mike_Noreen%cave@sweden.eu.net (Mike Noreen) writes:
>In a message dated Mon 30 Aug 92 16:20, Cpca@marlin.jcu.edu.au (colin Adams
>Hm? What you need to get 4x speedup is a 32-bit bus and page-mode DRAMs
>chip-mem. The A3000 has both.

Opps.  Sorry, my mistake  (I don't own an A3000).  

> CA> There will probably be some sort of Power-Up offer for people in the
> CA> States, but I doubt it will be available elsewhere.
>
>Very, very likely indeed. We europeans have never been able to rely on any
>C= support, and I don't think that'll change.

If there is no upgrade policy here, I'll buy a 486.  Why should the States
get all the upgrade policies when they aren't even the people keeping
the Amiga alive?!  :-(

>Mike_Noreen%cave@sweden.eu.net
>cave!Mike_Noreen

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From: slbfn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: New Amiga Word Processing Package
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:32:30 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Aug30.010906.17555@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan) writes:
> As some people may recall, in the Spring there was a posting with regard
> to a word processing package currently in development. This project had an
> impressive list of features and inspired quite a bit of discussion
> concerning its direction. Has anyone been in contact with the author to
> get some indication as to how this is progressing? At the time
> (~6 months ago), he estimated that it would take another year to complete.
> 
> Just curious,
> 
> Mark


  Development of the package is still in progress.  I have come accross 
  several set backs.

     1.  Getting married.    Yes, I tied the knot...  Now I have no time
                             for development :(                  ^^

     2.  OS switch.          I finally upgraded (actually, purchased new)
                             from an A500 1.2 to A3000 2.04

     3.  School.             Right now, this is what takes all my time 
                             (besides the other half, that is)

  Anyways, things are still coming.   I'm quite satisfied with the 2.0
  interface, and happy to say (or unhappy to others...) this application
  will absolutely REQUIRE 2.0!  Anyways, for what I want the processor to
  do, I suspect an extreme alpha version in around 4-6 mo.

  Beta in about a year.  Sorry, but I just don't have a lot of time.
  It is getting done, though... slowly but it's comming.

  I am extremely satisfied with what I have right now, though.  
  I'll keep everyone posted as I go...

  Greetings,

        --Travis Carter
          slbfn@cc.usu.edu
From: Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Upgrade policies
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:40:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.MedCu0_00j_HAIO5BY
	<1992Sep1.161521.14376@athena.mit.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga.misc: 1-Sep-92 Re: AA chipset in
> the A3000.. Hsu I-wei@athena.mit.edu (2904)

>  C= could try selling the traded-in machines at severely reduced prices,
> but I don't know how practical this would
> be. 

Or they could give them away, for free, to schools, in return (perhaps)
for an Apple II, or PC, or for nothing at all. They could then give the
Apple II and PCs away, for free, to the local landfill (or recycling
plant, or scrap metal dealer).  This might actually give C= an inroad
into the not very lucrative, but very influential education market.

michael
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: staferne@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Stefan Taferner)
Subject: Re: OS2.x FONT Problem (Courier 11)?
Keywords: 2.04, 2.x, font, system
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 09:53:55 GMT

Hi folks !

There is this nasty problem with the nice looking courier 11.
-- as  discussed in earlier articles.
I am using the courier 11 since I've got my A3000, and I also use
the powersnap. I don't want to talk about all the troubles I had
with the 'W'.

But now, I found a real simple solution how to correct the font:
Use the 1.3 font editor fed. Load the courier 11 and correct the W.
Save it and everything is fine !!
There is just one minor problem: the 1.3 fed only works under Kick 1.3

I also tried the pd font editor for 2.0, but it is rather buggy, 
especially with the courier 11 ....

Bye,   Stefan

-----
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Research Institute for Symbolic Computation
staferne@risc.uni-linz.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: koren@fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Subject: Re: Subprocesses in Emacs
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:48:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site

I think the original poster was asking about GNU emacs, not Micro emacs
(_world_ of difference <grin>).

As for starting subprocesses, you can fake it by using ARexx an
re-defining the emacs functions to use it instead of whatever they used
to do.

The amiga-set-geometry problem doesn't bother me much, because I usually
start GNU emacs and leave it running all the time until I reboot my
machine for some reason.

   - steve
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: CBM/Amiga vs NewTek/Toaster
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:34:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.222340.1234@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
>
> > ...Commodore told many of its dealers not to sign on as authorized
> > Toaster Workstation dealers or else risk losing their official Commodore
> > dealer status.
>
>My.  What a nifty way of having your rear end torn off in court for
>"illegal infringement of trade practices".  CBM doesn't have a legal leg to
>stand on with this and if they were stupid enough to write that down,
>someone could have ripped 'em a new one.  Manufacturers are NOT allowed to
>dictate what retailers can sell or not sell.  Sheesh...

	Ok then, hw about NewTeck buying a product from CBM (A2000)
and repacaging and hiding the name from it and adveritsments ?
I thought that you have to acknowledge all copywrites. CBM can ban them
from using their product. Sort of like what apple can do if it wan't
to stop Products like Amax to exist. System disks are only allowed to run
on Macs
	
>
>
>*======================================================================*
>|Edward E. Brown II               | Internet: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com  |

i	George

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: CBM/Amiga vs NewTek/Toaster
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 19:25:57 GMT

8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:
: 	Ok then, hw about NewTeck buying a product from CBM (A2000)
: and repacaging and hiding the name from it and adveritsments ?
: I thought that you have to acknowledge all copywrites. CBM can ban them
: from using their product. Sort of like what apple can do if it wan't
: to stop Products like Amax to exist. System disks are only allowed to run
: on Macs

NewTek can do that and get away with it--it's commonplace.  It's
called open-ended manufacturing, or OEMming, a product.  Basically,
they OEM'ed the 2000 and put labels on them, that's just fine.

They've got other reasons for being angry at NewTek...

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: amc1@cec2.wustl.edu (Adam M. Costello)
Subject: BMFC (bitmap font compiler)
Summary: BMFC 0.00 uploaded to wuarchive
Keywords: font
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:35:45 GMT

I have just uploaded two files to wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4):

/systems/amiga/incoming/devel/BMFC000.lha
/systems/amiga/incoming/devel/BMFC000.readme

Hopefully, they won't get moved to a more permanent location, since they're
going to be updated soon anyway.  If they do get moved before the update, I'll
try to keep you posted.

Here is BMFC000.readme:

--------begin----------
BMFC 0.00
by Adam M. Costello
released Sun 30 Aug 1992

BMF is a language for specifying Amiga bitmap fonts.

BMFC 0.00 includes the C source for bmfc (the BMF compiler) and the BMF source
for Lucid 10, 12, 13, and 15 (Amiga bitmap fonts).

You can use your favorite text editor to create the BMF source for a new font,
then compile it with bmfc.

This particular archive also contains the Amiga executable bmfc, and the
already-compiled Lucid fonts.

BMFC 1.00 will include the program bmfd (the BMF decompiler) which will allow
you to generate BMF source for existing fonts, so that you can modify them.

Be warned that BMFC 0.00 has not been well tested, and is only being released
because some people are in desperate need of a way to create fonts.  More
reliable releases should be coming soon.
-------end---------

More notes:

The source for bmfc is ANSI C.  I compiled it using SAS/C 5.10a, but I needed
to edit the include files to comply with ANSI.   The executable bmfc and the
Lucid fonts that come with the package should work with any Amiga.

The package is copyrighted but costs no money.  See the file BMFC.doc inside
the archive for details.

I am posting this announcement here rather than to c.s.a.announce because this
is not a stable release.  If you have any interest, please try it out and send
me bug reports and suggestions.

Thanks,
AMC
amc@cics.wustl.edu
Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Sunday, 30 Aug 1992 14:23:53 TUR
From: <E63256@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A mathematical tool: emath3d.readme

   This is a shareware program for displaying polar and rectangular
   3d functions on the Amiga. It works fine on  512 KB and WB 1.2
   1.3 and 2.0 (Higher versions couldn't be tested but it should
   have no problems on other versions).

   Erhan OZTOP
   e-mail: E63256@TRMETU.BITNET

     mail: ULTRA A.S.
           Erhan OZTOP
           P.K. 567 ANTALYA - TURKEY
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Subject: Re: PasTeX on U.S. FTP, where?
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Reply-To: dingebre@imp.sim.es.com (David Ingebretsen)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:29:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.170326.1@sevmsa.cs.msstate.edu>, gowen@sevmsa.cs.msstate.edu writes:
> Does anyone know if PasTeX is on any U.S. FTP sites for the Amiga?  I would
> think that the various U.S. mirrors would contain this program, but I cannot
> find it anywhere.  If PasTeX is not on any U.S. mirrors, can someone add it
> sometime?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Lon
> 

I have uploaded the archives to hubcap.clemson.edu in the 
/pub/amiga/incoming/utils/PasTeX directory. It is about 4.5 Megabytes
and so I expect that it will be purged soon. It does not include any
PK fonts, sorry; they are just too big to put there as well.

-- 
	David

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	            opinions of my employer, nor are my actions
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		    employer.
From: thwang@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Tommy Hwang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: What is so special about Amiga
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:22:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue University




  

From postnews Mon Aug 31 04:18:22 1992
   
   
     Okay, I have sort of asked this question many times before, but
that was when IBM prices were up in the $4,000 ranges.  Now that IBM
prices are in the mid- 1,000 to 2,000; all of the original rules (or
what ever) has changed.  Now, with Aiga finally coming out with the
A4000 and A3000T with the 040 chip (Oct.), IBM clones already has
the 486 out and the coming of the 586 this December.  Rumors has it
that the A3000T with the 040 chip will be priced at around $6,000 
while the 586 will be in the ranges of $5,000 or less.  So, with
this major price difference, what advantages does Amiga has?  Video
Toaster?  Well, IBM already has the Video Blaster and the Video Blaster
pro is expected sometimes.  As far as I know, Amiga's audio boards
do not come to par with the sound-blaster.  (the toaster is definitely
better than the video blaster, but at the cost difference of over $1,500;
I do not think that it could be THAT much better).
     Any, I originally wanted to buy the Amiga (primarily due to the
superior graphics and multimedia ability), but now with IBM prices going
this low and Amiga prices keep rising (recent discount in June doesn't
amount to much); what is it that keeps Amiga selling?
   
                                                      -TKH '92
                                                
P.S.  I have not giving up on Amigas yet, but pressures from IBM
        users and IBM prices is quickly changing my mind.
  
P.S/2  The mis-spellings are due to the fact that my Commodore 128
       (guess why I need a new computer) can not correct due to
       some incompatibility with my host computer.  Sorry.
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From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Time Management/Scheduling S/W ???????
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 14:25:32 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
   <ALANB.92Aug27170938@swordfish.sdl.mdcbbs.com> <64773@cup.portal.com>
  <crystal.714978090@glia>

In article <crystal.714978090@glia>
crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:

|  In <64773@cup.portal.com> thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) writes:
|  >[...]
|  >It's very likely that someone NEEDing a time/project scheduling system has
|  >other computers, too.
|  
|  Peculiar logic...does this mean that if I feel I *NEED* more than one
|  calendar, I must have -several- refrigerators to hang them on??? :>
|  
|  I have  WHAT!WHEN!Whatever! on order.  My "need" for it has nothing to
|  do with having more than one computer.  I just need some reminding at times
|  (like when a bill is due, or a birthday coming up, or even when to be on 
|  PMS alert. *grin*)  Scheduling programs aren't ONLY for the executive - us
|  little people need to organize our busy lives, too.  (especially when we
|  lapse into stress/forgetful mode!)
|  
|  Making assumptions about another's needs without asking for verification
|  first of those needs is a poor practice.
|  [...]

Interesting how we "read" different requirements into the same posting. :-)

Seeing a daytime posting from a ".trw.com" site (TRW being a defense contractor
and a major credit/financial reporting company) asking about time scheduling
software left me with the definite impression the request was made on behalf
of the employer and wasn't likely to be for an inexpensive program to be run
on a home A500.

"Simple" calendar and appointment programs are readily available for numerous
platforms, and I've seen source postings in the comp.sources.* groups.  Program
s
like these are bought/used by individuals.

Project and time management scheduling systems tend to be highly specialized
products, with AutoPLAN and GraphicVUE coming to mind (from different vendors;
I have no axes to grind).  Programs like these ARE bought/used by companies;
seeing ".trw.com" is what prompted me to ask "What system?" since such
products usually require more resources than what is typically found on Amigas
(i.e. TCP/IP networking, large X window displays, "E"-size plotters, etc.).

Contrast "casual use" with "serious application."
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Program like "STACKER" for the Amiga
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:58:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep1.215813.1446
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > Does anyone know if there is a software package for the Amiga which is
 > similar to a program called "The Stacker" for the IBM-PC and
 > compatibles?

Not exactly like that but two good programs are Turbo Imploder and Power
Packer.  TI is freeware and PP was a shareware program that has since gone
commercial.  Both are pretty good and work pretty well.  I've used TI on
all of my exec files (the big ones that take up lots of space!) and it has
worked extremely well.  You don't get 50% compression on everything but it
is quite nice to get 35-40% in general.  Not all programs can be compressed
but those that can often shrink by around 50% or so.  TI also warns you if
the compression will not result in decent size reduction.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: CBM Canada Hardware Announcements
From: tdenbo@dwp.la.ca.us (Tom Denbo)
Date: 25 Aug 92 13:42:28 GMT

I haven't seen this posted to the net yet so here goes:

***************************************************************************
Conf: [6] - Graphics/Animation (ECHO)
From: RICH KOSTER                            Number: 275
  To: ALL                                      Date: 07/06/92  3:05p
Subj: Toaster Workstation                     Refer: NONE
Read: [N/A]                                 Private: No 

To all of you who've been fretting over the NewTek Video Toaster Workstation
and how it doesn't say Amiga on the front of the box (though it still does on
the back,  inside,  and in the manual -- but that's another story) -- according
to Jim Plant,  the publisher of AVID,  the Amiga-Video Journal in the June '92
Avid Letter (the subscriber-only supplement to AVID) it will soon be a moot
point. (Geez,  long enough sentence there,  or what!)

He says NewTek is getting out of the Toaster Workstation biz,  for a number of
reasons -- the biggest probably to help relieve tensions between NewTek, 
Commodore,  and the Amiga dealers.  He reports what has already been said on
the Amiga echo already,  that Commodore told many of its dealers not to sign
on as authorized Toaster Workstation dealers or else risk losing their
official Commodore dealer status.  He also says,  as has been heard elsewhere, 
that some dealers signed up with NewTek anyway -- but the majority didn't
want to cross Commodore on this.  Jim says these dealers could still sell
Toaster systems by installing Toaster cards in Amigas,  but because they
weren't official NewTek Workstation dealers they didn't get many NewTek
amenities,  including access to the lucrative NewTek referral network.

Jim Plant says there are less than 100 Workstations in stock and when those
are gone from NewTek's HQ that's the last of them.

So that means the big discussion of what IBM and Mac users will or won't
think about the Toaster (whether they know it runs on an Amiga or not) is
soon to be old news.
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Can anyone verify these things?


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From: ianm@laghey.UUCP (Ian Moran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: ARn100B2
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:41:53 GMT
Organization: Private Amiga Site

Hello Folks

Has anyone managed to get ARn working with Matts UUCP 1.16D and WB2.04.
I find that although I can post articles I cannot read any. ARn returns
by simply telling me that the newsgroup is empty (which it is not).
Both .arnrc and .arnmasterrc have the DOTDIRS command removed so ARn
should be looking for a hierarchical news system.

Regards

Ian

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eachus@Dr_No.mitre.org (Robert I. Eachus)
Subject: Re: CBM/Amiga vs NewTek/Toaster
Organization: The Mitre Corp., Bedford, MA.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:46:34 GMT


     When the Amiga first came out a lot of stores in my area
(Southern New Hampshire) including the one I bought my first Amiga
from sold IBM's, Macintoshes, and Amigas.  Apple put a LOT of pressure
on those dealers, basically saying that dealers who sold Amigas could
not sell Macintoshes. (But, as I remember it could sell AppleII's and
GS's.)

     Most dealers dropped the Amiga, and a few dropped the Macintosh.
All of the Mac dealers susequently folded, those that stuck with the
Amiga survived, and in a few cases prospered.  But the best Amiga
dealers in Massachusetts and New Hampshire never sold Macintoshes.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos)
Subject: case #77a.1:  -----rw-d   Disk.info
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 20:55:59 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
X-Spook-Fodder: hero heroin tree shrub bush birth life death FBI CIA NSA


i'm sure i'm doing something boneheaded, and am simply overlooking the
obvious. however, knowing that doesn't alleviate the problem.

whenever i _clean up_ a window, then _snapshot_all_, my .info files 
are modified to have the e bit unmodifyable. i go into the shell,
type

protect xxx.info +e

list it and it shows rwed. i try again, same thing happens, position
won't be saved.

i'm going cuckoo. 

Amiga 3000, 8meg STZIPP, 2 meg chip, 25Mhz, 40meg quantum/40meg conner,
OS2.04, a multitude of pd/shareware running at startup (which will wind
up being the problem with my luck).

(cpu-control, ramsey, pp, decigel020, rad:, faccII, fontcachex, star, 
worldtime, sunclock, autocli, cpublit, clockdj, unarp, tagscreens, conclip)

yeeeeeEEEEE!! sez stimpy.


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