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From: drew@bootrom.MtRoyal.AB.CA (Steve Drew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Multiport IO, what are my options?
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:53:13 GMT
Organization: Not Organized
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <18cl11INN63m@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis) writes:
> I need at least two parallel ports and two serial ports IN ADDITION to
> the ports on my stock Amiga 3000.  What are my options?
> 
Me Too. (an others I know of). A board with 2 serial & 2 parallel ports would
be a real hot seller. Why can't someone realize this and make one. If there
is such a beast please let us know.

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From: Damian_Maxwell@guru.apana.org.au (Damian Maxwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: WOC in pasadena
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:15:04 GMT
Organization: Guru Meditation BBS

HI all.
By the time this gets to that part of the world, I am hoping C= will have
made some pretty interesting announcements.
Can whoever posts summaries please also email them to me?
Thanks very much in advance.
I would have gone to the WOC but hitchhiking there from australia is a bit
of a pain. 8-)
Thanks

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

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From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: AA or AGA in A3000 
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:28:04 GMT

	Any body in the know. The net should flud with info from the show
Question ... How do I get AA (AGA) in the AMiga 3000. 
	George
PS: David H. or anybody from CBM will be my pleed for sanity.
From: manfred@edomdo.UUCP (Manfred Dolag)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Video switch box for the Amiga
Date: 12 Sep 92 11:07:36 GMT
Organization: Edotronik GmbH

In article <kmeyer.07nn@amiganet.chi.il.us> kmeyer@amiganet.chi.il.us (Karl Meyer) writes:
>Does anyone know if there is a company that makes a switch box for the Amiga
>video port? I need to rout the video to one of two different places. I'd wire
>something up myself, but I can't find a source for the darn 23 pin connectors
>that C= uses.

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we have this connectors on stock. Male or Female. (price  9,0 DM each ).


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From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: 4000
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:38:32 GMT

mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:

>No real professional will use an audio output of a computer for 'high quality'
>apps. They'd rather use dedicated systems, f.e. MIDI samplers. BTW, most
>of the 16bits of CD audio is used to handle the high dynamic of the music.
>The Amiga can output audio with 14bit _dynamic_.

What about the home/small business segment.  Do they have to buy IBMs? :)

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From: gest_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Gavin Stark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Hot Amiga Internals.
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:56:14 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

For some reason the internals of my 3000 seem to be running very hot
lately.  Even to the point when the casing gets warm.  After a while the
graphics on my amiga go a bit wacko, such as when a window is moved,
horizontal dashed lines remain.  The hottest chip is labeled "C= CSG 8372A
318069-C3 4589 23"

BTW, the fan runs fine, the power supply box is cool, and the hard drive
runs hot.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Hopefully this is something
I can fix.  COuld the power cable be defective?  Has this happed to others?


-Gavin Stark

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From: saj31052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Scotty A Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: The Grandslam HD controller..
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:33:30 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I would like some info on this item, from anyone who may have one for the A500.

I'd like to know how many slots for mem expansion it has,
whether or not it has its own power supply,
what type of mem chips it can take, etc.

Thanks,

  Scotty AJ
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From: jwcj@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chen john w.)
Subject: help...mouse dead, but joystick still works...weird
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 07:01:35 GMT

Hi people.

I am new to the net so please forgive me if the text is not formatted correctly.
From: dnavas@oracle.uucp (David Navas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re:  Re: 4000
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:23:40 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <dej.01i1@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca> dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones) writes:
>A buffered serial port wouldn't hurt either.  Some people need to do
>76.8 kbps (not me, unfortunately :-()

Hear hear!  A better buffer would help for all this new V.XX technology around
the corner....

And while we're modifying all these little extraneous parts -- how about
support for HOT insert/remove on the serial, parallel, keyboard and mouse
connections?  Or at least a daughterboard for these things so that IF (more
like WHEN) those 8520s blow, we won't have to do the motherboard-replace
shuffle....  [Does the A4000 do a better job of protecting against these
cases?]

Heck, a switch for the power to/from the ports to allow replacing connections
while the machine is up would be one of those "added feature" things that
marketing can make a big deal out of....

Just my $.02 (or, as UC Berkeley signs indicate, .02cents worth, [sigh]).

> AMIGA: Advanced Multimedia with Interactive Graphics and Audio

David C. Navas						dnavas@oracle.com
Working for, but not speaking on behalf of, Oracle Corp.
From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Intermittent Quantum drive problems
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:40:26 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

Don,

I'm having similar problems with my Quantum 240LPS, and I've heard a number 
of dissatisfied people on the net.  Symptoms: I/O would halt, and the green 
LED on my controller would stay on.  The only solution was to power off and 
power back on.  Sometimes that didn't work, and the system needed to "rest" 
for a few minutes before the drive would work.

Often, prior to the hangup, it would hang for short periods of time, then 
start again, but that's always a harbinger of a full crash within a minute or 
two.

It seems to happen only during large amounts of I/O (examples are a wholesale 
copying of one 50%-full 80-meg partition to another, and capturing a large 
terminal session with no intervening input from the user).

Two of my friends, each with an A3000, bought the 240LPS the same day I did, 
and they have no problems.  Mine is in an A2000.  I'm reasonably sure that 
the problem lies in the drive, because I replaced my A2090A controller with a 
TrumpCard Professional, and the problem persists.

However, I can't exclude that it is the A2000 itself, and not the drive.  I 
get a green screen when I boot, which I understand means that some of my chip 
RAM is flakey.  However, it's never hurt anything in the past, so I haven't 
bothered to get that taken care of.  I can't exclude that that is the root of 
my current problem.

I'd be interested in knowing how your problem gets resolved.

What model Amiga are you running?

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
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From: copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope)
Subject: Re: RAM chips and the A3000
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 05:26:32 GMT

mbuc1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Matthew Richard     Buchanan       ) writes:

>>Yep, thats right.  Over in oz, 4 megs cost me A$240, and that was a bargain.  

>Hmmm... I rang up my friendly Computer retail outlet and talked to the very
>helpful salesperson Rob, who informed me that those same 4meg worth of
>chips would only cost me NZ$730 !!! (that's approx US$350-360)

>Think I might import them myself. I have the address of Memory World, and
>AMT in the States. What about Oz?? A$240 still works out to NZ$320 ! Any
>suggestions??

>much appreciated,
>Matt.

Import them from the US.  They are much cheaper there.
When I bought mine they were $25 + tax, which came to $30 a chip.  They are
now down to $22 + tax.  About twice what you could get them for in the US, if
you look around.  I've seen $14 a chip advertised.
I hope any new machine from C= will use simms.  They are only $45 each here,
heaps cheaper than zips. 

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From: cvmalone@unix2.tcd.ie (Colm Malone)
Subject: What *IS* the best way to go?
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:40:13 GMT


Greetings fellow Amiga Users,
	Having had the loan of an Amiga 500 for the Summer I find I like it,
in fact I like it alot ;)
My liking of the Amiga has prompted the decision to buy my own - the problem
is which model? A few weeks ago I would have been happy with an A500 with
a hard-disk (which could take memory expansion chips) - but now I am not so
sure.
	I've just recently seen a friend of mine's seriously expanded A2000
machine (120MB HD, 11MB RAM, 68030 40MHz accelerator card, display enhancer etc)
running WB2.04 - needless to say my jaw hit the floor. True Multi-Tasking is a
joy to watch especially when you have 20 million applications open at once :^)

I realise that that sort of a system is a wee bit out of my price range but I
figure a A2000 could be acquired at a reasonable price, since Commodore have
stop production of this model, and a HD with HD controller card are generally
cheaper for the A2000 than for the A500. Then maybe in a year times or so,
upgrade to an A3000 when their prices start to fall due to the advent of the
much rumoured new Amiga's. A hard-disk is a must, as I am fed up with swapping
disks all the time when I am using the WB - and when I start writing bigger
programs I know a big HD will be indispensible.

	The more I research though into the Amiga and its hardware add-ons the
more I am confused. I am just wondering is the A2000 route I have mentioned
above a good way to go - or will this model and others like it be outdated when
these Super Amigas arrive around Christmas?

	I have even contemplated getting a PC with the recent plummeting of
prices in the IBM market (eg. a decent 486 40MB HD for just over a 1000 pounds 
in England). I know all the die-hard Amiga fans are shuddering at the thought 
of such a move :) At least the Amiga is still doing fairly well over here in
Europe - from what I here in America if it ain't IBM compatible people don't
want to know about it :(

	So what I basically would like is some reassurance why I should
stick with Commodore, and what would be the best upgrading route to take. Maybe
some avid PC users could send me their reasons why I should jump ship. Or do
I need to jump ship? (are these PC bridgeboards for the Amiga really IBM
compatible?)

Mail me or the net with all help, hints, tips, suggestions etc. Preferably mail
me direct, as we miss the odd letter in our NewsNet, and I will post the
most interesting, funny or weird replies that I receive.
	
Thanks in advance from a confused micro-user,
Colm.
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From: jvl@redorc.chi.il.us (System Operator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Supra FAXmodem problems
Date: 9 Sep 92 10:52:04 CDT
Organization: Red Oracle Bbs/Network

In article <1992Sep4.142741.1107@msus1.msus.edu>, lkoop@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
(LaMonte Koop) writes:
>I just received a Supra FAXModem (v.32bis version) and am having NO end to
>troubles involving connecting to other systems.  When using 'normal' mode
>(no flow control, data compression) and at 2400 baud, I can get this beast
>to act like my old 2400 Supra modem.  Good 'nuff.  However, the ONLY other
>system I have been able to connect to at a higher rate is Supra's Tech
>support BBS (managed to get a 14.4K connection somehow) using the &f2 setting.
>All other attempts to connect to other systems lead to one of the following:
>
>            1.) Garbage on the screen.
>            2.) More commonly, a bit of normal text from the connected system,
>                then the screen and modem lock up - characters typed in are
>                seemingly not transmitted, and no further action is received
>                from the other system.  This is usually preceeded by the text
>                output becoming 'jerky' on the screen.
>            3.) Connections at slower speeds while using the &f2 (or &f1) 
>                factory settings (with CTS/RTS flow control, etc) usually
>                result in jerky output from the connected system to the
>                terminal.
>
>Does anyone have some good advice for this little monstrosity?  Decent
>command settings or ideas?  Thanks in advance.
>
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From: kmeyer@amiganet.chi.il.us (Karl Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Video switch box for the Amiga
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:15:57 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

Does anyone know if there is a company that makes a switch box for the Amiga
video port? I need to rout the video to one of two different places. I'd wire
something up myself, but I can't find a source for the darn 23 pin connectors
that C= uses.
From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Problems with the A4000
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:05:50 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <92258.123734LEEK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> LEEK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA writes:

>MB seems to overlook what's going on in terms of hardware area as usually
>.  The existing SCSI interface on the A3000 is a SCSI-I 8-bit interface.
>While it is nice and quick -I saw someone mentioned 3.9 meg/sec DiskSpeed
>4 on those really FAST drives, it is a bit out of date.  

Nobody's supporting 32-bit SCSI on PCs.  There are no drives that support
it on the market, only RAID boxes.  No one's going to buy a $25,000 RAID
box for a $3000 computer.  

The performance advantage of SCSI-2 would be fast synchronous mode, which
can give you 10MB/s transfers, well in excess of anything you'll find in a
hard drive for many, many years to come.  Other advantages might be had in
dumping the WD33C93A chip for something more modern.  While that part can
manage reasonably fast transfers, as any DiskSpeed report can tell you, it
isn't all that efficient in protocol transaction speeds compared to more
modern parts.

>(I said A3000 is SCSI-I because of the passive 220/330 terminating
>resistor vs SCSI-II's active termination.  That doesn't limit the
>A3000 issuing SCSI-I command, rather the upper speed that data can
>be transfered reliably and lower power consumption.)

The 220/330 termination is still a part of the SCSI-2 specification, last I
checked.  The 110 ohm regulated termination is shown as an option.  This isn't
really the speed limitation -- fast synchronous dies due to single-ended
drivers over anything but very short cable lengths, regardless of the 
termination (incidently, the aforementioned active termination scheme is only
for single-ended cable anyway).  Additionally, the Mac-style D25 external 
SCSI connector is too noisy for Fast Synchronous, SCSI-2 does specifiy a 50
pin mini-D-shell-ish connector for better noise immunity.

>But a multimedia machine using the extra resolution & colours is going
>to need a lot more hard drive bandwidth for full animation.  The
>A3000 SCSI interface (DMA part is fine) is out of date pretty soon.

To date, we've found one drive, the Maxtor Magic, that might actually run
sustained transfers a tad faster than the A3000 can handle.  And the A3000
goes faster with that drive than any system Maxtor has yet tested, supposedly,
as the A3000 is mentioned in their docs. It's going to be a long time before 
the A3000's SCSI is noticably out of date.

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From: taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu (C. Taylor Sutherland III)
Subject: Re: 4000
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:52:28 GMT

Aurelius@cup.portal.com (Mark Christian Barnes) writes:

>joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan) writes:

>>Unfortunately CBM left an equally important half of the "MultiMedia"
>>equation off their list.  The new machines still do only crappy 8 bit audio.
>>Worthless for any real professional applications.
>>Really a shame.

> Does this mean that the same old Paula chip is used? That would mean
>that floppy disks are still limited to 880k full speed drives. We still
>will not be able to read standard HD (1.44M) floppies! ;-{

The 4000 does have a high density floppy drive.  (880K/1.76MB)
I'm getting this right off the "original" press release.

> Until Paula (weak sister) is upgraded, both audio and floppy disk
>performance will suffer.

>			Regards, Aurelius@cup.portal.com


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From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: RAM chips and the A3000
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:59:52 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

copes@pride.cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope) writes:
>That's right, although the naming conventions of the different modes are often
>confused.  If you get hold of SetRamsey by Nic Wilson off a fish disk, it will
>report the 'standard' configuration as burst mode.  This is 'page' mode (I
>think), and is set by diag at startup.  It is the only one set, because this

No, it is PAGE mode that is not turned on and BURST mode that is turned
on (if you have SCRAM parts)

>mode works on all A3000's.  What Nic refers to as 'Static Column' mode is burst
>mode, in which ramsey utilises the scram chips.  Setting this mode will give

The mode set by the ROM *does* utilize the SCRAM chips, just not the PAGE
mode.  It is PAGE MODE that does not work with DMA from the SCSI hardware.
(It may work sometimes as the problem has to do with timing of some signals
to the RAM chips and some RAM chips can handle the timing and others can not
and others sometimes can.)

>you a speed increase.  On my machine (latest rev.) I get the fastest speed by
>setting 'static' mode on, 'burst' mode off.  This gives a 10% speed increase

Using what terminology?  The mode set by the OS sets the *right* mode for
overall best performance.  It just so happens that because this was the best
mode that we did not notice that one of the other modes was so broken.

So, just let the OS set the mode.  It will set the mode that is fastest for
the "normal" case.  Note that some test programs may show up faster in some
modes but this is not "normal" operation.

>over the 'standard' config.  I tried this mode on an earlier machine, and it
>ran fine, but SuperDmac no longer functioned and we couldn't use his hard
>disk.  Real handy.  For older machines, you should be able to upgrade the chips
>to the newer versions.  However, I suspect the problem is with Dmac, and not
>with Ramsey, as the machine still ran, but dmac stopped working.
>On my machine, if I run both modes on, the machine runs slower.  This doesn't
>seem right.

There is a problem with DMAC and it is not just older machines but depends on
just how the timing works out.  One of the signals to the RAMs when using
DMAC are just out of spec and may or may not work.

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