HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Bad Trips and their affect on normal
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:49:16 GMT
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'

rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>Yes it definitely does but it has been over a year and a half for you and
>I suggest you see a psychiatrist.  Anxiety loops such as it sounds like
>you are in can be broken with simple medications.  I've been there.

I'd suggest a psychologist.  The one useful thing I got out of seeing
a psychologist was to learn that all this bullshit that I had
been paranoid about was entirely normal.  Little shit like occasionally
looking at a word and not being able to remember what it means at all,
but only that it seems to be an absurd collection of sounds when you
say it out loud.  Nice to know that I wasn't going nuts, just playing
brain games.  Ditto for my "heart palpitations" -- once I realized that
they were caused by anxiety, and after I went to see a doctor (just to
check that they were benign), they completely went away... 

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Junkies/crack addicts don't try to share the fun?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:49:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.194145.7491@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson) writes:
>>I beleive that the Surgeon General's report on both cocaine and lsd will show
>>the contrary.  Cocaine IS PHYSICALLY addicting because it releases endorohines
>><sp> in the brain that produce pleasure and other various effects.  The brain

I've been told that cocaine causes the release of the neurotransmitter
dopamine.  This may be in dispute among the experts, though.

>you are confusing cocaine with heroin -- heroin releases endorphins.. as far
>as I know (correct me if I'm wrong), cocaine does not, and has a different
>course of action.

Actually, heroin mimics endorphins.  The name "endorphin" comes from
morphine because researchers who discovered them found they had the
same effect.

>Oh really?  I've used LSD and don't consider myself psychologically addicted
>to it.  People are addictable -- drugs are not addictive.

The concept of addictive drugs exists; you can't just semanticize it away. 
I would define it as a substance which causes a significant number of users
to seek it.

_Licit and Illicit Drugs_ cites a study of people who were introduced to LSD
in an experiment, then their recreational use of the drug was tracked over
the next ten or twenty years.  Nearly all of them gradually stopped using
it.  That's pretty convincing evidence that LSD is not addictive in the long
term, although many novice users become obsessed with the drug for a short
period of time.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: mark@kraken.ucsd.edu (Mark Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Ecstacy...XTC...X...Rollin'!!!
Date: 9 Nov 92 03:18:54 GMT
Organization: W.A.S.T.E.

In article <1992Nov7.194245.5073@netcom.com> rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain) writes:
>For an excellent reference full of a lot more than testimonies and first
>person accounts get the book "Ecstasy: The MDMA Story" by Bruce Eisner.
>Hard to get though, few bookstores have it and most warehouses are empty
>of it and have it on order.  Hmmmm.

I ordered it less that 2 weeks ago from Loompanics and received it
in less that a week.  I can dig up the order number off my receipt
if anyone is execptionally interested.  I would suggest instead that
you send them 5 buck for their catalog.

Loompanics Unlimited                   
Publishers & Sellers of Unusual Books 
P.O. Box 1197                        
Port Townsend, WA 98368             

>I think this is the most important mind chemical yet discovered and wish
>it were more responsibly used.  The book gives good instruction for
>responisble use as well as a wealth of other information.
>

Most important!?  I'd reserve judgement until one's read PiHKAL. :-)
Seems like there are lots of interesting componds out there.
 (The chemistry part of the book is available via anonymous ftp from
  ursa-major.spdcc.com /pub/pihkal/part[1-6] )

More book order info.
If you are seriously interested in the chemistry contained in these
files, you should order a copy of the book PiHKAL.  The book may be
purchased for $22.95 ($18.95 + $4.00 postage and handling) from
Transform Press, Box 13675, Berkeley, CA 94701.  California residents
please add $1.38 State sales tax.

Again, my order arrive promptly in less than a couple of weeks.

mark


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From: ap.6372@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] nitrous oxide
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.6372@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:25:00 GMT


In article <1992Nov03.211814.5096@ux1.cts.eiu.edu>, cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu 
(Howard Black) writes:
> In article <1992Nov3.172421.9687@uvm.edu> fduross@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP 
(frank d.....) writes
>
>>One of my biggest pet peeves is when I see people, usually at concerts, 
>>wearing
>>a 'save the environment' shirt, and holding a big fat nitrous balloon.
>>Nitrous oxide is responsible for about 6% of global warming.  The global
>
>     Where did you get this incredible (literally) gem of factoid data?
>
>>warming from each molecule of nitrous oxide is about 230 times that of a 
CO2
>>molecule.
>
>     Ditto.

I don't have a reference for this, but I have certainly read it
(or similar figures) in a textbook of atmospheric chemistry I was
reading for an essay I was writing on the topic earlier this year.

The suggestion that breathing nitrous from a balloon could have
any effect whatsoever on global climate is of course ridiculous.

The fact remains however that atmospheric nitrous oxide, both of 
bacterial origin and as a result of human activity (biomass burning, 
from memory, in particular) is one of the fastest increasing 
greenhouse gasses and is significant.

Jeremy
(jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au - forced to post anonymously because
of NASA pressure on AARNET to censor this newsgroup thus
causing local posts to remain local)

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From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Acid info...can't get up
Keywords: seven hits and nothing
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:10:59 GMT

ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo) writes:
>To counter these effects,
>the neurons with serotonin receptors greatly increase the amount of receptors
>for these molecules that they carry. This increase dissipates over appx.
>three days, long after the LSD is gone. Over those three days, serotonin
>levels are higher than normal, though not enough to stimulate the excess
>receptors, and the number of receptors decreases. 

The mechanism of LSD tachyphlaxis isn't anywhere near as clear as this.
Hell, the mechanism of LSD's effect isn't all that clear...

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: shawn reddy
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:40:16 GMT

ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:
: 
: >IS this some vein attempt at religion?  Don't you have something better to do?
: >Go baptize someone, for Christ's sake...
: 
: Well, for whose sake could you possibly baptize someone, if not for Christ's?

Oh - a few hundred sundred deities besides the Christian ones. Or, for no
deity at all. 

Bill
From: ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Menthol! was Re: Snow Bong! (was Bong ideas)
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:30:12 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners

In article <92314.221807IO20639@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO20639@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>Where on earth did you get that little gem of a fact?  since when does
>alcohol remove THC?  My FOAF tried a bong with Southern Comfort, and I can
>attest to the fact that the THC was deffinately still in the smoke. Please,
>if I am wrong, let me know!

THC is alcohol-soluble, so by definition alcohol "removes" THC. Your FOAF
still got high because the smoke wasn't in the alcohol long enough to make
an appreciable difference.

This fact means you can, er, "spike" your alcohol by soaking/dissolving mj
in it. This is in the marijuana FAQ (which I don't have on hand -- is the
FAQ ftp server still operational?).

Interesting tidbit -- mj and tobacco are opposites. For mj, water dissolves
the baddies (carcinogens) and alcohol dissolves the goodies (thc). For
tobacco, it's roughly the opposite (that is, if you think nicotine is a
"goodie").

--Erik

-- 
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              | 304 Vassar St., Cambridge MA 02139 | applies: this post is
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From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: LSD manufacture
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:53:19 GMT

raa@guild.socal.com (Raa Lopez) writes:

>Yes ... LSD is organic. LSD is extracted from "Ergot" (?) the fungus 
>that grows on Rye ... or any grain. Just thought i'd clear that up.

Yes, it's organic.  No it is not extracted from ergot.  Direct precursors
of LSD are present in ergot but LSD itself.  Just thought I'd clear *that*
up!

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From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: *Don't* do 25: Re: [anonymous] hbwr
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:03:00 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <1d2gf3INNrcr@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ah589@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Troy Blum) writes:
>Try this:
>         take 25 seeds. Grind them with a mortar and pestle.
>         soak the powder in water for several hours.
>         Strain and drink the water.
>This method is simaler to the method employed by Mexicans for hundreds of
>years. I haven't used it yet, but its worth a try.

I think you're thinking of morning glory seeds.  Unless your woodrose
seeds are very different from the rest of ours, twenty-five of them
will get you pretty fried, conceivably causing serious toxicity as well.
The normal dose is more like five to ten.  If that doesn't do it for you,
you can go up from there...

   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid activities
From: onda@ab.wvnet.edu
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:48:47 -0500
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College

In article <1992Oct30.134001.21836@bluemtn.COM>, news@bluemtn.COM (News user) writes:
> In article <1992Oct29.004627.11010@coli.uni-sb.de> ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:
>>jf@decuk.uvo.dec.com (Jason Flowers) writes:  
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>	I agree with not watching The Wall on a first trip, do something
>>
>>I would like to recommend to absolutely, positively do what JF says. IT's
>>hard enough to cope with this film when sober. Of course it depends how
>>much you let your imaginations fly in the movies, if you tend to really get
>>into it.
>>There are a few films to avoid (better: to watch before):
>>THE WALL (very depressing)
>>BRAZIL (utter madness, but if you can handle it...)
>>SALVADOR (I'm talking PARANOIA here, and the big P on acid... I don't know)
>>CRY FREEDOM (Pretty sad)
>>DEAD POETS SOCIETY (Gets your hopes up, and then flushes them...)
>>
>>BTW these are all-time favorites in normal surroundings.
> 
> Recently, while tripping, we ended up watching ROGER AND ME.  (It was on 
> HBO).   It was great!   That's all I can say...  The movie is a documentary on 
> Flint Michigan and General motors.  Sounds weird, but it was very amusing
> and entertaining.   I can also highly suggest YELLOW SUBMARINE by the Beatles.
> That movie is an acid trip.   WOW!
  

	FINE NOBODY WANT TO REPLY TO WHAT I SAID ABOUT GOING TO SUPERMARKETS OR
	STAYING OUTSIDE FINE!!!!!!   i can understand i am just not anybody
cool  enough to respond to or to even make friends with FINE.  i don't need	
any of you (even though i may some day but not right now)  i am just looking 
for some stimulating conversation but i guess i can't find it in this
newsgroup oh well i don't really give a flying f**k( i am doing that for school
resrictions)  well thanks for the needed encouragement.



	jason, the most lonely and imfamous man in philippi.

	
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo)
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:31:36 GMT

mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton) writes:
>But what is better ten fold in comparison to watching a movie, is to put on
>decent tunes (no overplayed stuff at MY house - no floyd (unless obscure), no
>marley, no morrison, no doors) and then visualize my OWN movies.

>NOW, it's your turn to talk.  Tell me what your personal favorite music is
>when (IF) you are (WERE) tripping!

Well, our favorite staples are:
Genesis: Nursery Cryme, Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
King Crimson: Lizard, Lark's Tongues in Aspic, Red
Procol Harum: Shine on Brightly, Home
Peter Gabriel: Passion
KLF: Chill Out

Why these? Genesis (w/ Gabriel), King Crimson and Procol Harum are all
1970's art or avant garde bands. The stories that they tell are really
groovy, and they are 'musician bands.' These are the type of highly 
technical bands that the average joe won't like. A lot of it is really
beyond the norm, which makes it exceptional to listen to in ANY state.

A fair amount of the music is chaos. KC, PH and KLF do VERY good chaos.
Genesis does not (see, "Waiting Room" on Lamb...), however their stories
make up for the lack of it.


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From: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au (Bunweasel)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: FAQ
Date: 6 Nov 92 23:53:29 GMT
Reply-To: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au
Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Queensland

[Dammit - just deleted my copy of the a.d faq]

Quickie :
	Recommended storage for A is cool, dark, anhydrous.
	(all fairly obvious)

	Given this, what's its shelf-life?


-Bunweasel.

(or would "half-life" be more appropriate? ;-)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo)
Subject: Re: How to keep it stupid-fresh
Organization: Twilight-Zone-Algorithms-Incorporated
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:06:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.103819.1@acad.drake.edu> bbe001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>I was wondering if anybody has any ideas on how to store herb for a while.
>Right now, if someone was to have it in a plastic sandwich bag (w/out a
>zip-lock) and then the bag in a hard plastic cup w/ lid, would that keep the
>cheba "fresh"? Does it really go stale? This hypothetical cheba might be really 

it will stay fresh if its airtight.  Just make sure that its mostly dry
BEFORE you seall it up, or it can mold.

best bet, air dry it till the only "liquid" is very very sticky.  

moldy weed does not produce hallucinations, but it will sure rip your
airpipes apart!

--gaspo.


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From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: New MDMA-like drugs?
Keywords: MDMA MBDB PCA FLENFLURAMINE
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:08:33 GMT

aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
> I find it necessary to note that pCA is a rather potent neurotoxin,
>showing similar, but more pronounced toxicity than MDMA, etc. Fenfluramine
>has also been reported to be a neurotoxin. It has been said before that
>administering a serotonin reuptake inhibitor such as fluoxetine, a few
>hours after taking the drug that this will greatly (perhaps completely)
>suppress the neurotoxic effect. 

Not sure about S-fenfluramine, but fenfluramine has been used as an
appetite suppresant in millions of people, without X-like effects.  (so
which isomer are we discussing when we are discussing the pharmaceudical
drug?)
From: eastmer@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: shawn reddy
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:29:45 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Nov6.084016.24445@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
> ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:
> : 
> : >IS this some vein attempt at religion?  Don't you have something better to do?
> : >Go baptize someone, for Christ's sake...
> : 
> : Well, for whose sake could you possibly baptize someone, if not for Christ's?
> 
> Oh - a few hundred sundred deities besides the Christian ones. Or, for no
> deity at all. 

A few hundred is an awefully conservitive estimate.
I believe that the Hindu religion contains some 30,000 gods and there are
((again I am not sure) over 120,000 prophets in Islam, but do any of those 
people believe baptism? I don't know?  

If unbaptized people go to hell, where would your kid go if you drowned him
during the event?
				ea"happy with hemp"e
>bill

Sorry this has nothing to do with drugs.  So I'll justify this with the 
Opiate of the masses quote.
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:18338 alt.folklore.urban:28451
From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Info needed on Spanish Fly !!!!!
Date: 13 Nov 92 19:14:15 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>to humans, which was known by that name.  3)  There is Spurious Spainish
>Fly, and the powerful Placebo Spanish Fly, two aids of legendary potency
>which some netters will gladly sell you for a more than fair price. 

     Only two-fifty.

     (If I didn't say it, someone else would.)

===============================================================================
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      confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory
      process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the
      Assistance of Counsel for his defence."
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Subject: Magical Mushrooms
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From: gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo)
Subject: Re: Bong ideas
Organization: Twilight-Zone-Algorithms-Incorporated
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 11:59:21 GMT

In article <Bx7EEM.5B9@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> fasano@venus.iucf.indiana.edu writes:
>I'm wondering if any one has thought of puting a screen at the end of the
>stem sticking in the water. I'm guessing this will make the bubbles smaller
>and therfore better cooling. 

more smaller bubbles is better.  The more contact the smoke has with the
water, the more filtering. (simple eh?).  But, I've tried about 3 or 4
different "spreaders" on the end of the downtake pipe, and all mostly
just reduced the draw.  I prefer to not have to have a chest ache from
sucking my eyeballs in.

>	Somebody mentioned better draw is good for a bong, but I find 
>I get the biggest hits using a small bong drawing very slowly.

I guess its just a matter of personal preference.  The easiest way to
determine if a spreader will work is to just blow down through the
downtake pipe, and see what kind of difference the spreader makes (with
an empty bowl of course :-)

--gaspo.


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