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From: dombart@muli.saar.de (John Raoul Dombart)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Until the End of the World
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:59:40 GMT

rkb@vax5.cit.cornell.edu ( @ Cornell University) once wrote....
>Caught Wim Wenders "Until The End Of The World" last week at the college
>cinema.   I liked it, but doubt it will be well recieved in the general
>populace.   Oh, wait, It wasn't , that's right.
>
>    The outback scenes were very nice.   I liked the music too, so there.

Sad enough, the film seems quite - er - confused to me at several
points, but there are moments of true Wenders movie beauty every
five minutes. Rumours are that the original cut extends to six
hours playing time, but had to be shrunk to mere (!) three because
no agency was willing to promote it otherways.

Anyway, one of my favourite details in the film was the fact that
Ruediger Vogleros (the detective) name in Wenders films remains
always the same - Philip Winter. This was also his name in "Alice
in the cities" and "In the course of time".

R.D.


----
  /\ muli - may unexpected love increase
 /..\ I like to drink coffee before I go bed. Then I can dream faster.
/_\/_\ dombart@muli.saar.de
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From: aku@leland.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Chia-Tso Ku)
Subject: Re: The Adjuster
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 08:05:31 GMT

In article <171e73INNduk@agate.berkeley.edu> peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter D. Merholz) writes:
>I saw this about a month ago, and while I guess I liked it, the film was
>just too obscure for my tastes... Why can't directors have plots, instead of
>just some mildly interesting characters... Why must they obscure meaning...
>To make it "art"? Well, I don't think they succeed... I think this movie 
>would have been much better had their been a storyline it was attached to...
>(I have similar feelings about ZENTROPA)

I found that THE ADJUSTER required a lot of post-movie contemplation
in the same way that BARTON FINK did, and the more I thought about its
interlocking motifs of voyeurism, desensitization, and alienation
wrought by technology, the more I liked it.  The movie also has a
detached, nocturnal look and some original images.

I recently watched Atom Egoyan's two previous movies, FAMILY VIEWING
and SPEAKING PARTS on video.  I was really impressed with SPEAKING
PARTS, which I enjoyed more than THE ADJUSTER: it's more plot-driven,
the characters are more "real", and there's a boffo surreal sequence
at the climax.  FAMILY has long boring stretches that really tested my
patience.  SPEAKING and FAMILY use extensive video imagery for an
original "layered" effect.

All three of Egoyan's movie star his wife, Arsinee Ka...(?), who
has an Ingrid Bergman-like exotic allure.  

Andrew
From: blackmon@eng.auburn.edu (Ferrol Rawson Blackmon)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: JODIE FOSTER NAKED
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:56:57 GMT
Reply-To: blackmon@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering


>He can marry her but if he plans on selling any photos of the honeymoon he'd
>better wait till she's 18. That's a very unambigous law. Just ask the people
>who were peddling Traci Lords films.
>
>
>-- 
>*********************************************
>*    bob church                             *
>*    bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu           *
>*    D-8195 NFS #27                         *

Where can I find out about these people peddling Traci Lords films??  I will pay
top dollar.



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From: qb7g6@fel.tno.nl (Maarten Landzaat)
Subject: What did you think of "Quiet days in Clichy"?
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:50:36 GMT

Hi,
Yesterday I saw the "uncut" version of "quiet days in Clichy", based
on some Henry Miller novel. 

If you've watched it, would you tell me (or post) what you thought of it?
Also, any information on the movie is welcome.

Reason: I don't know what to think of it.
-- 
Maarten J. Landzaat (analyst/programmer, bass player, Atari/midi freak)
BSO/Aerospace & Systems			Mail: Spuistraat 97
Email: maarten.landzaat@fel.tno.nl	      1012 SV  Amsterdam
Phone: +31 20 6266098			      The Netherlands
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: spot@CS.CMU.EDU (Scott Draves)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Ridley Scott...
Originator: spot@HOPELESS.MESS.CS.CMU.EDU
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
	<truesdel-200892000604@cobler.ics.uci.edu>
	<1992Aug20.081105.28934@jyu.fi>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:26:17 GMT

>>>>> On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:11:05 GMT, mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano) said:

mika> Philip K. Dick had the chance to see Blade Runner before he
mika> died.  Although there are some differences between the book and
mika> the movie,

??!! they are almost completely different.

-- 
			consume
Scott Draves		be silent
spot@cs.cmu.edu		die
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From: keiner@earthview.cms.udel.edu (Louis Keiner)
Subject: Re: The Wall
Reply-To: keiner@earthview.cms.udel.edu
Organization: Marine Studies, University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:08:02 GMT

>>>schweitz@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Schweitzer (W86)) writes:
>>> 
>>>>Can anyone explain the ending of the movie "The Wall" (Bob Geldof) to me?
>>>>As far as I understood it, Bob is trying to break through the wall that is
>>>>surrounding him. At the end of the trial, the judge orders to 'tear down the
>>>>wall'. Does this mean Bob's objective is archieved? I hardly think so, 
>>>>"The Wall" isn't a movie to have a happy ending...

Personally, I've never been sober enough at the end of the movie to remember it
anyway....... |)

Lou

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From: truesdel@ics.uci.edu (R. Scott Truesdell)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Ridley Scott...
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Aug 92 07:09:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.143558.22354@midway.uchicago.edu>,
ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki  takeuchi) wrote:

> Also, how's Blade Runner?  I'm interested in seeing it.

Blade Runner? You ask alt.cult-movies "how's Blade Runner?"?!
I think I can safely say, for the group, without too much fear of
contradiction, "good."

I think Rutger Hauer's character is so good and so well cast. Ridley Scott
basically single-handedly defined a whole unique look for the future that
has been copied and built upon by dozens of directors after.

Lot's of subtlety and depth and detail. The movie really stands up to
repeated intense scrutiny. And did I forget to mention Rutger Hauer's
lines?

  --scott
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From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Subject: A good lynch-esque film Re: Eraserhead  
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:54:51 GMT

Just rented 'Reflecting Skin' a English production of an American
story.  Strange movie kinda lika David Lynch movie.  What a bizarre
story.  Check it out.  Has anyone else seen this film?


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Bell Northern Research          |   Part of Northern Telecom 
Richardson, Texas               |   i'm really in Texas
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No opinions herein expressed have anything to do with the opinions 
of Bell Northern Research or Northern Telecom or CIA or NSA ...
These statements are mine and mine alone, well i guess my wife 
agrees with some of them?
From: Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Eskimo (minor heathers spoilers...)
Date: 17 Aug 1992 16:35:42 GMT
Organization: LBL
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.64.109
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <56982@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> Happy Fun Ball,
gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu writes:
>"You gonna pull a super chuck with that?" [after seeing
Veronica buying the
>corn nuts]

>"Heather and Kirk were a shock -- but Martha Dumptruck?!?  Get
serious.  She
>dialed suicide hotlines in her diapers."

These lines are not correct, at least not according to the
shooting script I have.

Eric T. Jue
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty)
Subject: Re: A Question for A BETTER TOMORROW experts
Organization: Yale University
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:12:26 EDT

In article <16842A1E0.DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu>
DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu (Joe Demon) writes:
 
>
>In article <168428AF7.PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
>PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty) writes:
>
>               Are Lung and Ken dead?????
>>
>>Thanks!!!
>>
>>Pete.
>  If you are a fan of this type of movie, and it appears as though you
>are, you know that the typical Oriental man can be shot *numerous* times
>without dying.
>  My guess, then? They're alive.
>  By the way...Have you seen _Bullet in the Head_?
>
>
>
>
>            ^ ^                JOE DEMON                 ^ ^
Thanks for the information, Joe!
I have BULLET IN THE HEAD on video, but haven't gotten around to
watching it.  I have over 1000 Asian films on video ... all of
John Woo's (I just watched HEROES SHED NO TEARS ... in awe), most
of Jackie Chan's, etc.
 
I think tonight I'll watch BULLET IN THE HEAD, now that I'm on a
roll.
 
Thanks again. Pete.
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From: asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Subject: Re: Three O'Clock High
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:09:17 GMT
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...

I loved this movie...Great black comedy...along the lines of Heathers.
It's right below Heathers on my all time movie list.  Gotta love his 
book report!

-Alex

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From: larson_s@apsicc.aps.edu (Shawn Larson)
Subject: Re: The Wall
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 05:55:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <Bt6yp8.63A@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Zych) writes...
>schweitz@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Schweitzer (W86)) writes:
> 
>>Can anyone explain the ending of the movie "The Wall" (Bob Geldof) to me?
>>As far as I understood it, Bob is trying to break through the wall that is
>>surrounding him. At the end of the trial, the judge orders to 'tear down the
>>wall'. Does this mean Bob's objective is archieved? I hardly think so, 
>>"The Wall" isn't a movie to have a happy ending...
> 
>>Who does understand this movie?
> 
>I suspect that anyone who claims to fully understand "The Wall" either:
> 
>a) is lying, or
> 
>b) needs to be locked up in a comfortable rubber room.
> 
>Tom Zych   tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
> 

 I've personally figured out most of it, but the part that I have absolutely
no idea about is the part where he becomes a fascist leader.  Anybody have
a clue on that one?


Shawn



Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: JODIE FOSTER NAKED
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:05:31 GMT

To the debate on "Pretty Baby" and how Brooke Shields was shown naked, before
she was 18, I want one thing clarified. Is this an American Film? I thought
it was funded, and partially filmed in France, <where they do not have laws 
against minors appearing naked, apparently>. I was far more shocked by 
the underage Nasstassia Kinski's nude scenes in "Tess". 
Besides, I don't think the morals of the country were undermined by Ms.
Shields nakedness. We're still here...

				--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley)
Subject: Re: A Question for A BETTER TOMORROW experts
Summary: They Live ... ?
Reply-To: eprice@sql.sybase.com
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:15:32 GMT

PETERC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Peter Correnty) writes:
>Potential SPOILER .....
Yup.

>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>.
>Although I've had the videocassettes for a year, I just watched
>Woo's A BETTER TOMORROW and A BETTER TOMORRW II, and have a
>question about the ending of ABT II.  In the last scene, Ken
>(Chow Yun Fat) Mark's (from ABT I) twin brother, Lung (the man whom
>the mob framed) and Ho (Kit's brother who went straight in ABT I)
>are sitting together.  They've just battled the mob in one of the
>longest, bloodiest, emotionally charged shoot-outs I've ever seen.

Yeah, it's pretty cool.  Exercise for the viewer: how many times does
Chow Yun Fat shoot that dude that rushes him when he is unarmed (but
then given two guns through the window)?

I really like the use of the sword by Ho.  John Woo showing his
experience with the more traditional Asian action genres perhaps?  (As
further evidence, HEROES SHED NO TEARS is clearly influenced by the
Lone Wolf & Cub / Baby Cart story.)

Anyway, about your question...

My immediate reaction was "No, of course they're not dead!" but after
thinking about it I decided I wasn't so sure. So I wached the ending
again...  All three of them show signs of life (movement, speech)
while sitting in the chairs.  I suppose they could be dead as of the
last shot of thee three of them.  And of course they have all been
shot enough times that it would be sensible for them to die any time
between then and when they get to the hospital...  But I don't think
there is any explicit or unambiguous evidence for their death.

That's my opinion anyway.  (I've seen ABT2 probably five or ten times
and never thought they were dead.)

>I don't have A BETTER TOMORROW III, but I know that Chow Yun Fat
>returns ... I don't know if he returns as Ken, though.

He returns as Mark, but A BETTER TOMORROW III is a "prequel", so it
has no bearing on the death issue...

-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@...)
"IF YOU HAVE ANY DIGNITY, APOLOGIZE TO THE RICE *RIGHT* *NOW*!!!"
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From: umgyles0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gyles)
Subject: Crispin Glover
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:42:24 GMT

 Here is the requested listing of movies made by the truly
brilliant Crispin Glover:

     (Pre-1978) Two McDonald's commercials
              Bayer Asperin Commercial
              Candy Kisses (lip gloss) commercial
     (1983)   My Tutor
     (1984)   Friday the 13th - The Final Chapter
     (1984)   Racing with the Moon
     (????)   The Orkly Kid
     (1984)   Teachers
     (1985)   Back to the Future
              (* He did not appear in the two sequels because he    *)
              (* insisted on having script approval. Instead, his   *)
              (* character was mostly written out of the films, and *)
              (* a look-alike used when neccessary.                 *)
     (1986)  At Close Range
     (1986)  River's Edge
     (????)  Twister
     (1990)  Where the Heart Is
     (1990)  Wild at Heart
     (1991)  The Doors

I think he has a few newer movies coming out. I'm not sure of the
titles, but they may never make it to your local theatres, so wath for them 
on video.

Besides his movies and his infamous David Letterman appearance, his 
career also includes writing books and recording albums (See Twister
for a sampling of his musical talent)


Darren

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Crispin Glover
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:38:59 GMT

v081q3sw@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (John K Mrozik) writes:


>	Does anybody have a list of all the movies that Crispin Glover has
>appeared in?  I saw him in 'BACK TO THE FUTURE' last night and he still 
>astounds me.  I can think of 'WILD AT HEART' and 'RIVER'S EDGE' and
>a little known teen-sex-romp flic titled 'MY TUTOR'.  Anyone have a complete 
>list?
>					psycho

I think he's in Friday the 13th Part 4 or maybe 5. He's in Twister, The Doors, 
and supposedly something due soon about him driving around a truck with a
frozen dead cat in the back. 

Also, are you sure about WILD AT HEART? He was in WHERE THE HEART IS. Maybe
both? 

His cd is great, he does some great songwriting and music backed by the 
Barnes and Barnes folks. Nice cover of These Boots Are Made for Walking. 
Also he did some cool appearances on Letterman's show a few years ago
showing off his tar sculptures and trying to kick David in the head with
his clogs.

  - malcolm
From: primeaux@wham-o.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The Devils
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:22:41 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: primeaux@wham-o.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
NNTP-Posting-Host: wham-o.cs.utk.edu

I saw the Devils a long, long time ago.  As I recall, it is a 
film directed by Ken Russell and (as is usual for him) *very* heavy 
on visual imagery and metaphor. Personally, I found it intense, 
disturbing, powerful.  It starred Oliver Reed and one of the 
Redgrave sisters (I'm sorry, but I always confuse their names).  
Unless I am mistaken, Russell also did several of D.H. Lawrence's 
novels (Fathers and Sons, LAdy Chatterly's Lover, (Sons and Lovers?).

The Devils is based on the account "The Devils of Loudon" (quite good) and 
both are based on fact (with, of course, some literary license).  That book is 
written, as I recall, by Thomas Huxley (brother of the generally more
famous Aldous).  Loudon is depicted as one of the last walled cities which 
has not been brought under control of the developing French monarchy
and is therefore seen as a threat.  Reed, the local priest is also
very influential in the town.  There is a convent of nuns with a hunchbacked
mother superior (Redgrave).  Charges of demonic posession are made
and it is implied that these are followed up on not because of religious
conviction, but because of political expediency.

But I'm over 40 now.  I saw the film 20 years ago.  Memory fades ......

IMHO, I think it is well worth seeing.  If seeing pain inflicted on someone
bothers you (as it does me) then you should know there is some of that.


-- David

******************   Spoiler alert **********************************


























































Several scenes flash through my mind when I think about this film.
It's been twenty years!!!!  so they had lasting impact on me.  One
of the images is the bright white stone walls of the city.  Another
is the inquisitor wityh the wire-rimmed glasses and gloves, looking
oddly (to me at the time) like a hippy.  There is the scene where 
the nuns are forced to vomit.  And the most powerful of all where
Reeds legs are broken.
From: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Raising Cain
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:52:22 GMT
Reply-To: labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

I saw this movie this weekend.  Mostly i liked it but some
of it was just so cheesy.  John Lithgow was great in it.  
The story was slightly hokey but was done following some
strange stream of consciousness.  Although fairly predictable
at times the filming, strange angles and stuff, aided the plot
well and enhanced the edge of the seatedness which was almost
overshadowed by some of the cheesy bits.  If they were intended
to be cheesy, it was great because these bits were very comic.

Enjoy,
Maurice
From: katefans@chinet.chi.il.us (Chris'n'Vickie of Chicago)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Steven Hawking's Movie!!! etco  Yey!
Date: 23 Aug 92 13:11:25 GMT
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX

In article <1992Aug22.021233.11783@midway.uchicago.edu> ttak@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>I just read that there is a film on Steve Hawking, the
>Lou G. British physicist?  It'snot yet in Chicago, but
>I heard that it is in LA and NY.  Anyone seen it yet?
>Any good?  I look forward in seeing it.

Yes, _A Brief history of Time_ will be at the Fine Arts theater starting
Friday (the 28th) though you should call the theater or check the papers
that day just in case in is delayed for some reason.

It has the greatest preview! I saw it before _Enchanted April_ and _Mistress_
and, though I *still* couldn't tell if it's a documentary or what, it
looks to be amazing...

Vickie

"The people of Eastern europe got rid of their left wingers, it is
 time we in America got rid of our left wingers!"

            Pat Robertson, in a speech to the delegates of the
            1992 Republican National Convention

"There is a religious war going on in our country for the soul of America!"

            Pat Buchanan, in a speech to the delegates of the
            1992 Republican National Convention

Ooops, sorry, this isn't alt.horror...
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: RE: Paul Diamond (was Re: accomplices ethical?)
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:17:37 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture

Pete Baker Wrote:

>Sorry guys, but it is time to play Devil's Advocate.  Have any of you ever
>heard of a guy named Paul Diamond?  Paul is a real nice guy that takes on the
>personae of The Don Rickles Of Magic when he performs.  This man insults
>everyone!  He is also one of the most visually entertaining closeup magicians
>I have ever seen.

I have to agree. I met Paul Diamond back in about 1973 or so at a magic
convention in Portland Oregon. He was teaching a seminar on close-up that
was so good his pamphlet is still part of my magic library. Being an
"obnoxious" performer is walking a very fine line, and anyone who is
considering it would do well to study Paul's work.

Incidentally, a few years later I met Paul in his magic shop in Florida. I
can't remember the exact town, but it was a short drive north of Orlando. I
was lucky enough to catch him in the shop, and he showed me a card effect
he had recently perfected, which he called "surprize triumph". It was an
excellent close-up effect, in which a mixed up deck is not only
straightened out, but all cards other than the one selected change the
color of their backs! If you haven't seen the effect, look for it. It is
now a standard routine in my cards act.

Jay Brandt -- Eugene, Oregon
Jason Magnus Productions
"Magic and Juggling for all occasions"
"Theatrical consulting and Special Effects"
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