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From: martelli@cadlab.sublink.org (Alex Martelli)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: coverage tools for C *and* Fortran?
Date: 3 Sep 92 09:13:12 GMT
Organization: CAD.LAB S.p.A., Bologna, Italia

We have recently been evaluating a commercial tool that will instrument BOTH
Fortran and C source for test-coverage measurements.  Unfortunately, this
tool has proved unacceptable, for many reasons but particularly for the
incredibly high overhead of running the instrumented code -- would you
believe TWENTY TIMES SLOWER (yes, not 20 PERCENT, 20 TIMES) for instrumenting
modules worth about 2,000 lines out of a 100,000 lines program?!  Ok, they
were the lowest-level modules, but even so.

I am aware of several C-only tools of various description, but I've been
asked to check if there's any tool that will be able to handle both C and
Fortran sources in the same program -- many of our programs are like that,
so that having a C-only tool would not be very comfortable (yup, we could
convert fortran-> via f2c or similar, but then the modules' authors would
have to interpret the coverage results in C-source terms rather than in
Fortran terms, and they may not be familiar with C, etc etc).

I will appreciate any info/suggestion, either posted or via email; I will
of course post a summary of emailed info if requested to do so.  Thanks.
-- 
Email: martelli@cadlab.sublink.org                   Phone: ++39 (51) 6130360
CAD.LAB s.p.a., v. Ronzani 7/29, Casalecchio, Italia   Fax: ++39 (51) 6130294 
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: yossi@mcil.comm.mot.com (Yossi Cohen-Shahar)
Subject: Guidelines for writing reusable C and Assembly code. 
Organization: Motorola Communications Israel Ltd., Tel Aviv
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:14:19 GMT

I'm a member in a Software Reuse Committee of 
Motorola Communications Israel.

Our committee has started its work a year ago.
We have established an organization reuse database, 
rewarding program to engineers for encouraging 
software reuse and we have invested in increasing the
awareness to it as well.

As part of establishing the software reuse we are also 
writing a "Software Reuse Handbook" for the software
managers and the software engineers. This handbook
contains information regarding the reuse process
and the use of the tools.

In order to complete this handbook, we are seeking 
for information / handbook / guidelines that describes
how to write C code and Assembly code in "reusable manner",
meaning how to write code in a way it would be easier
to reuse it in the future.

Thanks.


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Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: mcp@sei.cmu.edu (Mark Paulk)
Subject: CMM v1.01 commenting period extended
Keywords: CMM, software process, SEI
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:45:12 GMT

As you may know, the Capability Maturity Model was released last August as
version 1.0.  We have been revising CMM v1.0 in light of community feedback;
the CMM v1.01 drafts have been available via anonymous ftp over the Internet.
One of the concerns that has been expressed is that the review period was
too short.  As a result of that concern, I mailed the following letter to
the CMM Correspondence Group.  It is being posted to this newsgroup to ensure
that the Internet community is also aware that we have extended the commenting
period on CMM v1.01.



Dear colleague,

The bulk of CMM v1.01 has been mailed to the CMM Correspondence 
Group, and we have been getting comments back on the revision 
drafts.  One concern that has been expressed is that the review time is 
too short.

There is some justice to this concern.  Several items were not ready to 
go out until 1 September, which was the original target for getting 
comments back.  We extended the commenting period to 11 
September, but some items were unavoidably delayed in reproduction 
and distribution.  In particular, the revised version of TR-24 went out 
late.  

While we want to hold to our schedule, we also want to be responsive 
to your concerns.  We had planned for each item to have about a two-
week review cycle, which has clearly not been the case.  If you did not 
have two weeks to review an item, we will accept your comments up 
to 25 September.  At that time all comments received will be 
reproduced and distributed to the CMM Revision Team, the CMM 
Advisory Board, and the CMM Change Control Board, for their use in 
reviewing CMM v1.02.

Comments have been received to the effect that the changes to 
Organization Process Definition, Skill Building, Integrated Software 
Management, and Quantitative Process Management were too great for 
a minor revision and/or not justified by the change requests.  We 
would particularly appreciate feedback in these areas.  The CMM 
Advisory Board can recommend another round of public reviews, if 
they deem it desirable to delay CMM v1.1 until these concerns are 
resolved.

The glossary and the TR-25 Overview will still be handled as special 
cases per my letter of 27 August and will probably be mailed to the 
Correspondence Group for review at the beginning of October.

Sincerely,

Mark C. Paulk
Software Engineering Institute
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890
From: sassam@insectus.unx.sas.com (Sue McGrath)
Subject: ISO 9000
Originator: sassam@insectus.unx.sas.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:53:27 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


While there is some net interest in the ISO 9000 standards, I wanted
to point out that there will be a tutorial on ISO 9000 and software
at the 2nd International Conference on Software Quality.  Following
the tutorial will be a task force meeting to discuss the current
state of ISO 9000 and where we are heading.  Here is the tutorial
description.  Send mail to me if you would like more information.

Sue

Track 2:  Applying ISO 9000 Standards to Software
John A. Slater, Logica Defence and Civil Government Ltd

The adoption of ISO 9000 quality standards and accompanying
certification is growing rapidly.  However, unless formalized
quality management and certification are credible and appropriate
to business needs, they may become a commercial tax on industry
with little relevance to real quality.  The UK industry has taken
the initiative and set up the TickIT certification scheme using
international accepted documentation for quality management,
auditing and certification. This tutorial covers the following
topics: quality concepts, review of ISO 9000 standards with
emphasis on ISO 9000-3 (guideline), the TickIT scheme, accreditation
of registrars, how to select a registrar, and case study.

John A. Slater is a principal consultant with Logica Defence and
Civil Government Ltd and has been involved in project and quality
management of information based systems for over twenty years.  He
was instrumental in the development and implementation of many of
the UK Ministry of Defence's software quality initiatives.  As
TickIT Project Leader for the UK Department of Trade and Industry,
he was charged with bringing to fruition accredited third party
certification for quality management systems in the software sector.

 
-- 
Sue McGrath V406         sassam@unx.sas.com     
(919) 677-8000 x7032   
SAS Institute Inc. SAS Campus Drive, Cary, NC 27513
From: s923257@yallara.cs.rmit.OZ.AU (Chew Ming Ean)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: HEEEEELLLP !!!!
Summary: Need Help For Assignment
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:17:55 GMT

Thanks for reading this.......

I'm a first year Computer Science student and have to write up an
article concerning:

- the purpose of CASE tools
- Common features of Case Tools
- Type of hardware required to run this tool
- Comment on the future trends
- etc,,,,...

So i wonder if the FAQ in this group will answer my questions or
are there articles from which i can ftp from....?

I have to read at least two articles concerning the case tool.

So any help is greatly appreaciated :))

Thanks you again.

Ming
From: ccurtis@acsu.buffalo.edu (Chris Curtis)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: CM Software Info Wanted
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:22:31 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo / CEDAR Research Group


  I am currently investigating various Configuration Management Systems
to implement in an environment with a lot of existing code and data.
Aside from the supporting version control, release management, data sharing,
access control, documentation production, and problem reporting,
the main requirements of the system are:

	- easy to incorporate existing code with the CM product 
          (also can bring in existing RCS and SCCS repostitories)

	- the smaller the initial software developer involvement
          the better (transparent capabilites)

	- support for about 100 users

	- expandability (eventually to add program development tools)

	- a flexible configuration (no restriction on editors,
	  allows user configured forms, etc.)


Any input regarding software to perform to these specifications
would be greatly appreciated.
 
Please e-mail me and if I get enough responses I will post a
summary to the newsgroup.


Thanks,

Chris Curtis (e-mail: ccurtis@cs.buffalo.edu)
From: davej@sumax.seattleu.edu (Dave Jenner)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: >>>>>>> Most Widely Used Language?
Date: 5 Sep 92 13:45:28 GMT
Organization: Seattle University

I have a poster on the wall that says:

The world's most widely-used
     computer language:
		
		"@!#%?*"

Pretty generic, but probably true.

-- 
Dave Jenner                (206) 527-2018
3153 N.E. 84th Street      davej@sumax.seattleu.edu
Seattle, WA 98115          ...!uw-beaver!sumax!davej
Xref: sparky comp.software-eng:3418 misc.jobs.misc:6446
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Re: Purify
From: jcb (Jim Becker)
Date: 10 Sep 92 23:54:28 GMT
Followup-To: comp.software-eng
Return-Path: <jcb>
To: dgray@sadis01.sa.aflc.af.mil, postnews


   Subject: Purify
   From: dgray@sadis01.sa.aflc.af.mil ( SCDR)
   
   I have just recently heard about a product  called  Purify  from  Pure
   Software  The  product  apparently  does  a  very-high  level  quality
   check  on  C/C++  code.  Does anyone out there know anything about the
   product or the company?
   
   	Thanks,
   		Doug

it  works  great!  a very good piece of software. it's helped NCD find
many  otherwise tough to uncover bug-lettes.

was  written  after people were frustrated trying to track down memory
leaks in Xt... har har...  :^)

Pure Software is contacted via:

	(415) 903-5100 or send mail to support@pure.com


-jim	- no affiliation except happy user.


--
 -Jim Becker / jcb@ncd.com   /   Network Computing Devices, Inc. (NCD)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: john@iti.org (John Sauter)
Subject: Re: DOD-STD-2167a
Reply-To: john@iti.org
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:21:56 GMT

mark@bart.hac.com (Mark Johnson) writes:
: I had made a request recently for information about an online copy of
: DOD-STD-2167a.  As it turns out, I still don't have a copy of the
: standard.  I received a couple of requests for a copy (if one became
: available), and I received a suggestion to use archie (which turned up
: the same DID data I already had).  If anyone has an online copy could you
: please send it to me (plain ASCII is fine...) to the address listed
: below.  Thanks.

Check David Lamb's last FAQ posting for the group.  There is a file
in the software-eng archives that appears to be a ASCII version of
2167A
-- 

John A. Sauter                         Industrial Technology Institute
e-mail: john@iti.org                   PO Box 1485
313-769-4171                           Ann Arbor, MI 48106
From: martym@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (martin.mcgowan)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: >>>>>>> Most Widely Used Language?
Keywords: n
Date: 5 Sep 92 03:24:33 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In 1986, while a Product Manager (AT&T's C Programmer Productivity Tools),
I had the occasion to work with the Eastern Manager for a popular COBOL
vendor.  He claimed a figure of 3 Billion lines of COBOL in the world.

Judging from the comments here, COBOL still lives.  One might infer
a billion lines of COBOL per decade. We are now well into the 4th billion!

 -- Marty McGowan
    AT&T BL, Whippany NJ
 
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: emg@Metaphor.COM (Mike Greenawalt)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: ISO 9000 Standards
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:50:24 GMT
Reply-To: emg@Metaphor.COM (Mike Greenawalt)
Organization: m4

I am sure that I am plowing in an already well-tilled field, and I hope
someone may be able to point me to an existing repository of information
on the topic.

Anyway, my colleagues and I have heard a lot of rumors, a little fact, and
a lot of fiction about the importance and/or necessity of being ISO 9000
compliant/certified.  Yet I still cannot honestly say I can judge whether
or not my company really needs to be concerned.  It has not yet been an issue
with customers and we do sell in Europe.

What's the best way to boostrap oneself quickly with the knowledge needed to
decide what course to take with respect to ISO 9000?

Thanks,

-- 
+---------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
| Mike Greenawalt           | emg@metaphor.com                           |
| Manager, Software Quality | ...!{apple|decwrl}!metaphor!emg            |
| 	   Assurance        |                                            |
| Metaphor Computer Systems | Metaphors be with you.                     |
| Mountain View, CA 94043   | These opinions are mine, not my employer's |
+---------------------------+--------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng,tum.info.soft
From: hfaester@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hannes Faestermann)
Subject: Re: Summary: Public domain tool for rapid prototyping
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:41:50 GMT

lamberts@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Stefan Lamberts) writes:

>Hi,

>I was looking for a public domain rapid prototyping tool to build
>motif based user interfaces.
>I received three answers.
>Thank's.
>All recomended John Osterhout's TK/TCL system.
>It's available via ftp from:
>        sprite.berkeley.edu:tcl  (for the base stuff from Osterhout)
>        barkley.berkeley.edu:tcl (for packages using TK/TCL)
>and 
>        coma.cs.tu-berlin.de:pub/tcl
>There is a newsgroup called comp.lang.tcl for more information.

Und nat"urlich von ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de in 
/pub/programming/tcl.

Warum in die Ferne schweifen, das WIN ist eh so lahm :)

	Hannes

--
Hannes Faestermann           |  Internet: 
Physik-Department E17        |   Hannes.Faestermann@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE
TU Muenchen,                 |  
8046 Garching, West Germany  |
From: jacob@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Jacob L. Cybulski)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Query: HOOD
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:09:34 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

Where do I get the HOOD specification from?
Any publically available articles or book chapters covering it?

Thanks -- Jacob

=============================================================================
Jacob L. Cybulski,  Deputy  Director,  Amdahl  Australian  Intelligent  Tools
Programme,  Dept of  Comp Sci  &  Comp Eng,  La Trobe  University,  Bundoora,
Vic. 3083, Australia. Ph: +613 479 1270, Fax: +613 470 4915, Telex: AA 33143,
E-Mail: jacob@latcs1.lat.oz.au.                                     ... G'Day
=============================================================================
From: alan@jade.uucp (Alan Covington)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: Purify
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:45:56 GMT
	<9209102354.AA05085@verbosa.ncd.com> <etxtms.716196562@solsta-c>
Organization: Jade Simulations International Corp., Calgary, AB, Canada

In article <etxtms.716196562@solsta-c> etxtms@solsta.ericsson.se (Thomas Bjork  TX/DKG) writes:

   Purify does two things.

   1) It traces memory leaks.

   2) It gives warnings when accessing uninitialized memory.

It also checks for access to memory that is not allocated to the
program, has (limited) checks for freeing unallocated memory and has
watchpoints that sound useful.  (I haven't used the watchpoints yet,
although I can think of some errors we have had where they would have
been useful.)

The product is solid, easy to use and very useful.  We have found many
errors, some that had been with us for years.  The memory allocation
usage dump has pointed to way to several storage optimizations that
have halved the amount of memory being used by a large program.

Alan - no affiliation to Pure Software, just a happy user
--
Alan Covington, Jade Simulations International Corp., Calgary, Alta.
alan@jade.ab.ca
-- 
Alan Covington, Jade Simulations International Corp., Calgary, Alta.
alan@jade.ab.ca
Organization: Ege University - Computing Center
Date: Friday, 4 Sep 1992 11:47:05 TUR
From: <PROHVK21@TREARN.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: need e-mail address of U of New Castle

Hello,

is there anybody who knows the e-mail address of University of New Castle,
Australia

And information about software research studies in that country ?

Thanks in advance,

Handan G. Kilicaslan

E-mail : prohvk19 @ TREARN.BITNET
Thanks in advance,
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: etxtms@solsta.ericsson.se (Thomas Bjork  TX/DKG)
Subject: Re: Purify
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:29:22 GMT


Purify does two things.

1) It traces memory leaks.

2) It gives warnings when accessing uninitialized memory.

We have used purify for some weeks now and it has been very useful. One example
is an application we have that sometimes used too much memory. Purify reported
that it leaked 30 % of the used memory. It took less than a day to reduce the 
leakage to only a few percent.

A am sure that purify will be very useful for us in the future.

/Thomas

--------------------------------------------------
Thomas Bjork
Ericsson Telecom
Lagergrens Gata 8
S-652 26 Karlstad
Sweden
email: etxtms@solsta.ericsson.se
--------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: muts@fysap.fys.ruu.nl (Peter Mutsaers)
Subject: Re: Query: HOOD
Organization: Rijks Universiteit Utrecht
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:44:22 GMT


I'm too lazy to go to a bookshop and order it; is there also a HOOD
manual available on-line on the net?
--
_________________________________________________________________________
Peter Mutsaers.         |================================================ 
muts@fys.ruu.nl         |        Quod licet bovi, non licet Jovi
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: tphili@eos.ncsu.edu (TEEBU  PHILIP)
Subject: lex and yacc, please help?!! 
Originator: tphili@c00405-346dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphili@eos.ncsu.edu (TEEBU  PHILIP)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:41:44 GMT


My name is Teebu Philip.  I am a senior in Computer Engineering at NC State.
My partner and I are working on our senior design project.  We are working on
a constraint network.  We have been given a BNF grammar and it was our
understanding that we could send that grammar thru lexx and yacc.  But as of
yet, we are still not able to figure out the complexities of the pgms.

Could we ask a few questions:

1) how does one implement partial brackets in our text file which simulates
the grammar.

2) can we send our text file of this grammar into lex and yacc to make us a
parser that we need for our project.

please email us at tphili@eos.ncsu.edu
                   jhmoney@eos.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: martac@sco.COM (Marta Cervantes)
Subject: Software Testing International
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 21:58:26 GMT



I'm looking for information on the organization Software Testing
International and their Standard Testing Environment (STE).

Has anyone heard of this group? Is there an e-mail address?

Thanks for your assistance.

Marta Cervantes 
The Santa Cruz Operation

martac@sco.com
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: doc@magna.com (Matthew J. D'Errico)
Subject: Re: CASE  Data Interchange Format
Organization: Magna Software Corporation
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:09:53 GMT

In article <wai.715836048@csuvax1> wai@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Julian Wai) writes:
>
>I've heard about the CDIF (Case Data Interchange Format) from another news
>group, can someone tell me what exactly it is?  Is there a International
>or Industry standard???  Are there any books, papers, information that
>describe this format.

CDIF is an EIA developing Standard which is already published in draft form
and undergoing a prototype effort which to date is very successful.
Participating Vendors include many of the more notable CASE and DB vendors
whom I won't list here for fear of leaving someone out...

A complete copy of the published documents can be obtained directly from
the EIA, or by attending a one day seminar (which costs the same as a single
copy of the specification)...

For more information, contact any of the following :

	Patti Rusher (EIA) 202-457-4962 : MCIMAIL Id: 544-6089

Your best source for reference information is the CDIF Technical Committee.
Contact :

	Mike Imber (CDIF TC Chair) at: 100031.700@compuserve.com
		&/or
	Mary Lomas (CDIF TC Sec'y) at: mlomas@oracle.com

I would strongly urge you to consider joining the Technical Committe if
you are seriously interested.  For a nominal fee, you can easily obtain
the entire specification and the support of a really great group of people.

Regards --

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Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: sarr@sinshan.citi.umich.edu (Sarr J. Blumson)
Subject: Re: Test Evaluation Tool (TET)
Keywords: Test Evaluation Tool (TET)
Organization: University of Michigan, CITI
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:13:31 GMT

In article <79464@ut-emx.uucp> wes@arissoft.com writes:
>Does anyone know where to find a copy of the Test Evaluation Tool (TET)  
>test harness.  I was under the impression that TET was public domain, but  
>i have been unable to find a copy on any of the archive sites.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
Because I've seen this question a couple of times (once by me,
actually, which is how I found out) and because this seems to be the
news group for testers and I haven't seen any discussion I'm posting
this rather than mailing it.

The Test Environment Toolkit is a platform for managing and executing
test suites.  It is a joint effort of UNIX International, the Open
Software Foundation and X/Open (but does worry some about non-UNIX
platforms).  While it is intended for public distribution the current
version is preliminary and only available, as far as I know, from
X/Open's mail server.  Send something like:

        request: index
        topic: index
        request: end

to:

     info-server@xopen.co.uk

There is also a mailing list which you can subscribe to by mailing to:

     tetworks@ui.org

but this took me a couple of tries.

I am an interested consumer rather than a member of the TET
consortium, but I think this is accurate.
     


(Sarr Blumson)