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From: kkwast@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kevin A. Kwast)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Drug Testing/Types of LSD
Keywords: lsd testing
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:14:53 GMT
Reply-To: kkwast@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kevin A. Kwast)
Organization: Not affiliated with any Organization
Originator: kkwast@sylvester.cc.utexas.edu

I'm still interested in people's views about what drugs can be tested, how
long a drug remains testable, and the accuracy of various tests.  Also, has
anyone heard about testing by analyzing a sample of hair?

As an occasional lsd user, I've just seen acid dropped onto specially printed
paper.  It seems that this practice is fairly widespread, and that "types"
of acid can be recognized by the printing of the paper (in this case, stars
and stripes).  Up to this point, I've only seen it dropped onto plain paper.
Is acid dropped onto these special papers originating from one national
source?  Does anyone know any characteristics of these different types?

Thanks!



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From: darinf@scarla.UUCP (Darin Fisher)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 06:44:38 GMT
Organization: Scarla Development
Reply-To: darinf@scarla.UUCP


In article <1992Dec20.052918.21974@galois.mit.edu> jbaez@riesz.mit.edu writes:

 > 
 > In article <D4c1VB8w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz> system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz >  (Wayne McDougall) writes:
 > >rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
 > >
 > >> Of course, you can also "od" on water.
 > >
 > >There are enough toxins in potatoes to kill you if you eat 7 tons in one day.
 > 
 > I think we are gradually getting the point: anything, in sufficient
 > quantities or administered in a sufficiently silly manner, can be
 > lethal.  Even neutrinos (hint: supernovae emit lots of neutrinos).  
 > 
 Good point, just follow the simple rule of responsibility when using drugs,
 "Moderation in all things"

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From: nobody@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] yet another damn test 
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: nobody@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 01:25:33 GMT


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From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Subject: Re: Choice (was Cats and LSD)
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 01:09:52 GMT


In article <1992Dec29.232028.20669@zia.aoc.nrao.edu>, rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu writes:
|[...] We had two cats in our house, unneutered males,
|but I'm happy to say nobody ever gave them any drugs of any
|kind.

What?  No catnip?  Poor things.  My three neutered male cats
enjoy their succession of catnip mice, judging by their shred
rate.  Followups to rec.pets.cats.

---
cj@eno.esd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720 
"You can't legislate morality. We tried to outlaw comsumption of 
alcoholic beverages. We found that violation of the law led to bigger 
crimes and bred disrespect for the law."  Jimmy Carter, 1976.
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:20362 talk.politics.drugs:8090
From: cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Bill's Billy, Roger (was Re: Some anonymous posts)
Date: 31 Dec 1992 16:55:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) says:

>homer@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Homer Smith) writes:
>
>>     Given the drug for free, they again regained their self respect,
>>GOT BACK TO FUCKING WORK ADDING TO THE GNP RATHER THAN DETRACTING FROM
>>IT, were not tempted to over do the drug to distraction because
>>were not charging themselves up with a secret shameful life, and
>>they could talk openly with others like them about their problem.
>
>	Or back on welfare, sucking from the GNP.  On Discovery or 
>something I recently watched a show on the doleing out of smack 
>methadone and coke to junkies in England, and I believe it had some
>of the same footage as the 60 min show.  What 60 min lacked however,
>as it would have been found distasteful to their vewiers, I imagine,
>was an interview with a family on welfare and smack.  They picked up
>both their drugs and their money courtesy of the English taxpayer, and
>there was a short segment of them in their welfare complex with their
>children in the backround and gross looking ma and pa talking about how 
>they haven't worked in years.    Free rent, free money, free smack -why 
>should they?

Well, I'd rather give the drugs to the junkies than get mugged
so that the user could afford to buy them on the black market! 
Plus I really hate the hipocracy of a government that profits from a
black market.  So this system would help cut down on that sort
of corruption (one of the main reasosn it will never happen here).
Besides, was this the only distasteful family they could find?  What
are the statistics, anyway??


>
>Jim Del Vecchio
>
>Followup-To set to talk.politics.drugs
>
P.
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:03:36 GMT

fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
: >: >
: >: Untrue! The fabled "orange sunshine" was kept at a measured dose of 250 ug.
: >: Acid back then was in considerably higher units. (source: _Acid Dreams_).
: >
: >There may have been an occasional batch that was higher. However, "orange
: >sunshine" varied - see the tests during the 60s and 70s.
: >
: Uh...I want to be diplomatic in this. [for a change] But isn't expert
: information in this area one of those Catch-22 paradoxes? If you were
: in a position to have this kind of arcane information at your
: fingertips, well, you couldn't have this kind of information at your
: fingertips.

Nope. There were many tests run during the 60s and 70s to identify the
contents of a drug sample, as well as how much was there. 

Bill
From: cappiell@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Steven Cappiello)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: NOW is the time...
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:04:30 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



Hello netters...

I'm not sure mailing to the following address is extremely useful,
but, as far as I know, It might be... (extremely helpful)

If you or any of your friends are interested in, ahem, legalization, 
for instance, please distribute this posting to all who might use it.

here goes

  Clinton Transition Team Available on COMPUSERVE

  It is now confirmed that President Elect Clinton's Transition
  team is on Compuserve  their account is  Clinton For President
  <75300.3115>

  Now you can reach them through the networks..........

  In order to E-Mail them through Peacenet

     From IGC to COMPUSERVE:

To: <account>@compuserve.com

Substitute the recipient's account name for <account>

Example: 

NOW IS THE TIME TO SEND A MESSAGE TO THE NEW PRESIDENT...........

MESSAGE HIM TODAY.......
From: cappiell@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Steven Cappiello)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: AMSTERDAM !!!  please help
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:57:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


A few friends are planning a trip to Amsterdam !!
Here are a few questions...

1.  Is just after the new year day a good or bad time to go?
	as far as 
			a.  hotel availability
			b.  drug availability/ prices

2.  What are the *average* prices in the coffee shops for primo hash/weed?

	What's the best place(s) for college students to go?

3.  Are hard drugs easy, hard, risky  to get?
	(Ectasy, Shrooms, Acid)
	and can you get them in any of the coffee shops?

4.  Which hard drugs are most widely available?

5.  Is the X there usually MDMA ? (as opposed to mda, etc.)

6.  What are the penalties in Amsterdam for purchase/possession of various
	drugs??


Any answers/suggestions are greatly appreciated, as the trip is planned for 
	either January 5.

Ciao !
Chris
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: wisp@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Wisp)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:48:00 GMT

In article <D4c1VB8w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz> system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
>rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>
>> Of course, you can also "od" on water.
>
>There are enough toxins in potatoes to kill you if you eat 7 tons in one day.
>
>

And the LD50 is actually 56lb, if dropped from more than 10 feet...

The Wisp. [just one tiny litte mint, sir...]
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,sci.med
From: jgnassi@athena.mit.edu (John Angelo Gnassi)
Subject: Re: Death from Caffeine (was Re: caffeine myths)
Organization: Massachusetts General Hospital - Lab of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:55:59 GMT

>bsimon@elvis.stsci.edu (Bernie Simon) writes:
> Coffee contains oils which can irritate the digestive track. People
> who have digestive problems of any kind should try abstaining from
> coffee for a while to see if their condition improves. This includes
> decaf coffee, which has the same oils. Homeopaths are also down on
> coffee because it often antidotes homeopathic remedies.

But if you drink very *strong* coffee, you won't have any problem.

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From: wce@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Bill Eichman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Bill's Billy, Roger (was Re: Some anonymous posts)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 14:54:25 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

homer@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Homer Smith) writes:

>      Given the drug for free, they again regained their self respect,
> GOT BACK TO FUCKING WORK ADDING TO THE GNP RATHER THAN DETRACTING FROM
> IT, were not tempted to over do the drug to distraction because

It should also be pointed out that such drugs as cocaine, heroin, etc, 
are not at all that expensive to produce in the first place. There's no 
need to use tazpayer money to provide them for free to addicts-- when 
addicts could buy for ten or twenty dollars an amount of pure, 
unadulterated chemical that would have cost them 700-1000 dollars in the 
black market.

All that needs to be done is to decriminalize their use and sale, and 
give doctors the power to perscribe them and to supervise people who want 
to use them. No state subsidy is required.

Later, Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: umcormi5@ccu.umanitoba.ca (John Cormier)
Subject: LSD
Summary: What does LSD stand for
Keywords: LSD
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:03:02 GMT


I was wondering what LSD stood for again.  I believe it is a type of acid
(hence the nickname).  Also since I was child I've learned it was easy
to make in a high school laboratory.  I think it was the Hardy Boys that
discovered someone making LSD or something. Just for kicks, does anyone
have any recipes.  I assure you that I am not a drug dealer or a drug user
myself. I have always been interested in the morality of drug use but this
is probably not the proper group for those kind of discussions. Anyhow, 
if anybody has any concontions post them or mail them to me if you don't
feel confortable about posting them.  Happy New Year to you all.

John Cormier
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Drug-trip inducing comics for sale!!!
Date: 24 Dec 1992 10:37:32 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu

Most of you know about that amphtamine-high you get out of super-violent
films.  Some of you know about Japanese cartoons.  What I have to offer,
for ONE DOLLAR, is a crack-high inducing cartoon sample, 10 pages.  Of
extremely good art quality, the man Maruo Suehiro offers insight into a 
highly disturbed world.  If you would like to scope this offer, you can
send cash or money order to

Henry Robertson
2206 Durant Ave. #5
Berkeley, CA 94704
USA

Or otherwise e-mail me for questions/complete catalog.  Please include a
self-addressed, stamped envelope.

You won't regret it, I swear.  I'm not just any rinky-ding California conman.
From: camper@buphy.bu.edu (Dan English)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Drug Testing/Types of LSD
Keywords: lsd testing
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:25:40 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <85660@ut-emx.uucp> kkwast@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kevin A. Kwast) writes:
>I'm still interested in people's views about what drugs can be tested, how
>long a drug remains testable, and the accuracy of various tests.  Also, has
>anyone heard about testing by analyzing a sample of hair?
>
>As an occasional lsd user, I've just seen acid dropped onto specially printed
>paper.  It seems that this practice is fairly widespread, and that "types"
>of acid can be recognized by the printing of the paper (in this case, stars
>and stripes).  Up to this point, I've only seen it dropped onto plain paper.
>Is acid dropped onto these special papers originating from one national
>source?  Does anyone know any characteristics of these different types?
>
>Thanks!
>   kkwast@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Kevin Kwast)             /*\       *Merry*

yes, different kinds of blotter mean different kinds of acid. here in
the northeast, there is a great variety of the kinds of acid one can
get. (a FOAF tells me). the kind of blotter usually indivates the
strength and the "cleanness" of the acid.
for example, any kind of lotus is good, but diiferent color lotus acid
means different strengths. also blue shield is another i frequently
hear is nice.

   -camper.
.

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From: despair@netcom.com (Scott Hanson)
Subject: Re: Eye redness experiment a success!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:40:24 GMT

In article <something> bagg@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
[experiment deleted]
>I suggest trying the experiment with a single eye protected with
>goggles (and the other left exposed).  It's a more elegant
>experiment that way.  If you're really ambitious you could have
>independent observers (who were not present for the actual
>smoking) 'score' your eye redness.  

I remember my eye doctor telling me that medication, infections (and I
imagine smoke particles) are easily transferred from one eye to the other.
Also, an irritation in one eye may affect the other.  The eye becomes red
because of an allergic reaction, release of histamines, etc.  This may
make both eyes turn red despite the possibility that the goggles really
work.
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Mescal buttons..?
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:47:36 GMT

In article <17DEC199216081381@vx9000.weber.edu> melbarbari@vx9000.weber.edu (Mansour Elbarbari) writes:
>I beleive Mescal is a cactus used to create a very hard liquir in the 
>Mexico area.. Many people assume it has mescaline in it since it has
>a) the word mescal and b) it comes from a cactus..  The mescal cactus 
>doesn't have mescaline in it all.. the name Peyote does describe the
>specific cactus Lophophora Williamsii.. there are more powerful 
>hallucinogenic cactis used such as Sunamii but Lophophoria Williamsii is the
>only one actually called peyote.. Although I have heard that some Indian
>tribes call any hallucinogenic cacti the same thing..

Wrong, cactus breath!  ;^)  (but not *too* wrong)

Mescal (a/k/a Mezcal) comes from the maguey plant, a succulent of the agave
genus which is sometimes incorrectly referred to as a "cactus".  And it is
true that many people believe mezcal to be hallucinagenic for the reasons
stated.

The original poster was correct that mescal is the particular cactus of the
peyote genus (genus Lophophora, mescal is the specie L. williamsii) which is
most often refered to as the "peyote cactus".  The poster above has it exactly
backwards, although it is understandable since most people do in fact mean
only L. williamsii when using the word "peyote".

-Pete Zakel
 (phz@cadence.com or ..!uunet!cadence!phz)

Could be you're crossing the fine line
A silly driver kind of...off the wall

You keep it cool when it's t-t-tight
...eyes wide open when you start to fall.
- The Cars
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Choice (was Cats and LSD)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:47:34 GMT

rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner) writes:
: 
: other things, but I have no idea whether he ever gave it to the dog. We had 
: two cats in our house, unneutered males, but I'm happy to say nobody ever gave 
: them any drugs of any kind.

The poor things. I suppose it was politically incorrect to let them
enjoy catnip?

Bill
From: anon.230@pax.tpa.com.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: query re: drugs and us security clearances -
Date: 1 Jan 1993 07:01:57 +1030
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        Anyone care to remark on the effects of a single relatively
recent experience with LSD for someone about to approach getting
a clearance? No history of abuse/addiction, just a single experiment.
Is it best to come clean or attempt to pull off a short term memory
deficit?


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From: mjharris@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Harris)
Subject: Re: query re: drugs and us security clearances -
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 09:35:41 GMT

gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner) writes:

>In article <1hvlbtINNblb@flash.pax.tpa.com.au> anon.230@pax.tpa.com.au writes:
>>Anyone care to remark on the effects of a single relatively
>>recent experience with LSD for someone about to approach getting
>>a clearance? No history of abuse/addiction, just a single experiment.
>>Is it best to come clean or attempt to pull off a short term memory
>>deficit?
>	Since you are obviously going to work for our corrupt government
>	where "plausible denial" isn't everything, its the only thing,
>	(Forgive me Vince ;-) ) I recommend that you answer this question
>	for yourself using this time honored USGov standard of morality:

>	(drum roll)		***Plausible DENIAL****
>	
>	Bottom line: can you get away with it?  This will of course
>	depend on a number of things: 
>		* can you pass a piss test (with LSD probably)
>		* can you survive a background check (who saw you? will they
>		  tell the feds?)
>		* can you survive a polygraph test? (maybe you don't need
>		  to for the level you are after---find out).

>	Keep in mind: if you screw up, the Prez won't pardon you for your
>	sins.  That's only for the high level liars.  



>							smg

The only thing you have to worry about is whether you have any enemies
that know of your horrid sin. They don't polygraph anymore and they don't
drug test for LSD. With all the thousands of people with clearances these
days they just don't have the time. I doubt very seriously that they'll
drug test you at all. What level is it anyway?


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From: an3933@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Acid in Holland
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 13:35:49 GMT


Brand      Strength    Comment
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Banana     120 ug      Andy Warhol's painting - a sheet looks cool. Popular.
Penquin    100 ug      The logo of Penquin Books
Purple OM  120 ug      
Dragon     250 ug      Dragons on a green background
Bart       300 ug      Eight squares constitutes one Bart Simpson with a sling.
                       Bitter taste. Popular.
Anarchy     50 ug      Might have been old.
Strawberry  80 ug
Greenpeace 400 ug?
Microdot   100 ug      Brown 
Microdot   150 ug      Blue (maybe I got these dots mixed up)

Happy trails in '93 !!!

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