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From: roek@gypsum.egr.msu.edu (Daniel Roek)
Subject: Phish on Mtv
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 22:56:01 GMT

Yes you read the title correctly, and this is worse that w/
Cindy Crawford...

Starting @ 6:00 today (Thurs, 23) Phish took over as the "house band"
on "Hangin' with Mtv."  Their playing was OK, a little uninspired.
They played "Buried Alive" during a classic feature called "Prize Cam."
They also played excerpts from "Landlady" and most of "Poor Heart" (no 
Fish voices) and, when a Pearl Jam video was announced, they broke into
BBFCFM.

That's all I've seen so far and will have to miss the rest of it.

It wasn't just that they are on Mtv, but the crowd was just, well, bad.
Turn on Mtv at 5:00 some day and imagine Phish tunes in the background when
videos aren't being played.  Let's just say I'd rather have thousands of
ticketless deadheads begging for miracles outside a show than one of these
people inside.

Earlier in the show (before Phish) they played "Little Miss Can't Be
Wrong" by the Spin Doc's.  If I could stand them before, this video
would certainly have driven me FAR, FAR AWAY.  It was like a cheezy re-
make of "Centerfold" (the vid, not the song) with bright colored paint
and all the band members making "video faces" at the camera, the winks and
camera teases made popular by Jon Bon Jovi.  Anyway, they had a nation-
wide call-in for "CRANK IT OR SPANK IT" and it got spanked.

If someone stomached the rest of this, it would be cool to find out what
else they did (like play "Weigh" with Fish stripped back down to his jock
strap!).

Dan
From: kougham@pell4l13.alleg.edu (Michael Koughhan)
Subject: new Phishhead looking for live tapes
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 00:58:54 GMT



Can anyone hook me up with live Phish tapes?  I have one at Nectars in 87  
(I forgot the exact date).  Thanks.  Don't fear the cow.

Also, look for a new and upcoming band called CHANG JOHNSON AND THE NEW  
BUCCANEERS.  They play everything and anything (stylisticly) along with  
new styles of music that hopefully have not been invented yet.   
Similarities with Phish?  None except for the courage to try really  
different stuff and being highly original.

Smoke you goin down.
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From: dgr@chem.ucsd.edu (Danny Rillera)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Santa Barbara / Roseland Tree
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:55:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
NNTP-Posting-Host: chedccf0.ucsd.edu


This is what I have from the original post.

Set list from Santa Barbara:
Set I:

Buried Alive
Possum
It's Ice
Bouncin'
Split Open and Melt
Rift
Fee
Maze
Colonel Forbin's Ascent
Gamehenge monologue
Icculus 
Fly Famous Mockingbird
Run Like an Antelope

Set II:
 
 Sanity
 Llama
 Lizards
 Mike's Song
 I am Hydrogen
 Weekapaug Groove
 Horn
 Poor Heart
 Terrapin
 A cool a capella session with the whole band
 (could be out of order here)
 - Memories
 - Sweet Adeline
 - Carolina
 Suzie Greenberg
  
  Encore:
   
  Sleeping Monkey
================================================

Roseland Ballroom, New York City, NY, 3/14/92

The seed for the Roseland show is a digital clone of a digital 
audience master made by Henry Petras using AKG 451 mics set up 
fob into an SV255 DAT.  This is a very high quality audience tape.
I left the phirst set home but will try to remember it tomorrow.

Set II

Golgi Aparatus
Llama
Squirming Coil
Split Open And Melt
Bouncin Around The Room
Oh Kee Pa Ceremony
Suzy Greenburg
Harry Hood
wizard of oz jam/cold as ice jam
Craklin Rosie!
Possum

encore:  ( w/ John Popper )
Sleeping Monkey
Good Times, Bad Times
***************************************
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Chip Clofine <0004995342@mcimail.com>
Subject: looking for tapes
Reply-To: 0004995342@mcimail.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:34:33 GMT

Hi...

    Any N. Calif./Bay Area tapers out there willing to hook up with me in
SF or Santa Cruz so I can copy some of your killer tapes??? The studio
stuff is getting old so I'd like to get some phantastic live shows. Let me
know.

chip
cclofine@mcimail.com


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ingraffi@tramp.Colorado.EDU (INGRAFFIA EDMOND J)
Subject: Re: Mtv's week in Rock
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:39:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.203554.890@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> bernstei@remus.rutgers.edu writes:
>Anybody else catch this week's week in rock???
>
>Of course they brought up (once again) a comparison between
>each of the bands and the Dead, as well as asking the bands about
>it......
>
>To tell you the truth, it seems to me that ONLY the media seem
>to be portraying this image......Nobody who I know who has
>seen any of these bands ever comes up with any comparison between
>the bands and the Dead....HMMMMMMMMMMMM........
>
>Maybe some clever marketing ploy dreamed up by some record company
>execs to start lumping these bands together as Dead influenced
>bands..................


	I'm surprised it's taken this long for someone to bring this 
possibitlity up...I DEFINITELY think there is some A&R marketing WEASEL
who acts as some sort of "liason" between the band's management and the
media...

	Get a crankin' board of "Llama" -- put it in the weasel's ear
	-- turn the volume up to 1,297 -- and...


	POP GOES THE WEASEL!!

Yangety

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Alan Sodoma <ajs@jloda.cci.com>
Subject: Re: HenryPetras' Posting
Reply-To: ajs@jloda.cci.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:11:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.174251.703@nic.umass.edu> you write:

|  On the subject of drugs, at the Orpheum show a bunch of kids (14 or 15) 
|asked me for tabs.  When I realized they meant LSD and not the soda, I told 
|them no.  And more kids asked me and then some of the kids who asked me 
|earlier asked me again.  I wonder if it was because I was devil-sticking?
|Anyway, their request annoyed me greatly and moved me to get a "Don't Ask
|Me for Drugs" button.  I also spoke with some narcs at that show- I'm 85% sure
|they were narcs.  The DEA is cracking down on LSD.  They have agents at Dead


Those narcs might have been the ones who had those kids there asking you
for tabs.  I know that around Rochester the cops have been known to send
underage people into stores to buy beer, thus busting people with very
little effort.  


3 hours 'til Santana/Phish at the Finger Lakes PAC!!
I'm outta here and off to the show.  :-)


Al Sodoma


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "David A. Craig" <trey@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu>
Subject: squaw
Reply-To: trey@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:35:42 GMT


actually, various folks at BASS HAVE had information on squaw tix; but as people
there have told me, the info in the computer vs. the info on the "on sale" or
"on sale dates" boards haven't been matching up.  

are ya'll having as much fun as i am trying to get tickets?  of course the 
friday on sale date was switched, with no new information as of friday 5:00pm.

so what's going on here?  some candidate theories:
i) sheer incompetence
ii) contract problems
iii) somebody at BGP has a running deal with the phone company (long distance)
iv) vendetta against the poor sops answering the phones who have to endure
    repeated calls from increasingly weary pholks who wish that somebody would
    give them some straight information
v) they want to make sure tickets go on sale as close as possible to the on
   sale dates for dead tix (oregon) to annoy as many people as possible
vi) the carrot-stick scenario, aka the junkie principle.  (make 'em hungrier
    and hungrier ....)
vii) the purifier principle (only those who REALLY REALLY want it will get
     tickets)
viii) they're doing us a favor. you see, by the time we get tickets it will be
      REALLY gratifying.  really.
ix) a cheap form of entertainment for some employee with a computer and an access
    code
x) the generic-mind-game scenario

and last, my favourite:
xi) an on-sale date of august 26, i'm told the first day of the last 20 year
    cycle of the mayan calendar, some time synchrony transformation sort of thing
    where we all switch to galactic time and quantum leap to our light bodies
    higher selves or some shit like that.  "harmonic convergence II"  i've heard
    it called (sounds like a convention).

    all this i'm told from the same guy who alerted us to the LAST harmonic
    convergence (now "harmonic convergence I", i suppose?)


more theories? at least if i can't get my tickets i can keep myself occupied ....
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Subject: Re: Great Woods - 7/21/92
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:28:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.230848.14963@galaxia.network23.com> justin@galaxia.network23.com (Justin Brierley) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.051106.673@nic.umass.edu> s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene) writes:
>>Phish - Great Woods 7/21/92 (from memory)
>>
>>All Things Re-considered
>>Possum
>>It's Ice
>>Sparkle
>>Stash
>>Coil
>>Jim
>
>They didn't play Sparkle, it was Laughing Fall Apart. Unless it's the same
>song and I'm just stupid.

You said it, I didn't  :-)     Indeed, it is the same song - "Sparkle"

>
>                             HAROLD
>

-jg

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From: "David A. Craig" <trey@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu>
Subject: quotations
Reply-To: trey@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 06:37:06 GMT

 ooh yah.  everyone who's listening, it would be great if people made note
of and posted all the random musical quotations phish make all the time.

might be fun, even educational, who knows, hmmmm?
From: s3583045@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John Greene)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: The Phish Mailer
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:06:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: nic.1992Jul26.160651.9334
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <1992Jul24.173809.20560@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> bernstei@remus.rutgers.edu writes:

>Anyone know who I can send a message to get on the Phish
>mailing list for real paper mail?

Call the hotline (617) 923-4939 and leave your name after the hotline
message.  Speak slowly and clearly.  Thanks.

-jg

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From: dAvE <DWRYMANO@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu>
Subject: Phish with Santana in Detroit?
Reply-To: DWRYMANO@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:35:34 GMT

Can someone say FOR SURE if Phish is indeed opening for Santana on Julay 30 at
Meadowbrook in Detroit?  All of the ads I've seen as well as the recording at
Meadowbrook's number only list Santana.  I'd be grateful to anyone who could
e-mail me a quick response.


             thanx,


             Dave


             dwrymano@mtus5.cts.mtu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.'  22-Jul-1992 1937" <fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com>
Subject: grate woods
Reply-To: fromm@tecrus.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 23:32:40 GMT

jg already posted the setlist, so i shan't reiterate

i had a good time at the show, although the whole concept was a little bit 
disappointing from a phish-phan perspective; a good solid 45-50 minutes, but i 
(along with plenty of others) really wished it could go on longer; just normal, 
straight-up phish: no trampolines, no strobes, no minkin, no vacuum, no signals, 
not much of a light show, but some damn good jammin nonetheless (and just how do 
they manage to play so fast during sparkle and still keep it all together?)

probably the most i've paid to see phish (and that was even by bypassing 
ticketbastards and going straight to the box office), and the only non-general 
admission phish show i've ever been too; those are the two main reasons why i 
didn't go to the orpheum show, but i just couldn't bear to go without any phish 
from may until whenever (any guesses as to when they'll return to regular 
headline touring?  not until oct or nov?)

it was pretty easy to spot a good number of people that were there primarily to 
see phish; a large number of people on the lawn were dancing up a storm, and 
another large number of people were practically motionless, many just hanging 
out on the grass; since i knew i wasn't going to get any kind of decent view 
from where i was, i decided to take advantage of the vast amounts of free space 
and become one of the dancing up a storm crowd; might as well make the most of 
the situation; saw an awful lot of phish shirts throughout the crowd; actually, 
quite a huge number considering that they were only the opening band; kind of 
funny that i saw almost no santana shirts (i think i saw many more dead shirts 
than santana shirts); spotted several PhishNet shirts (an aside personal note: 
to whoever was asking for my e-mail address, but i didn't have a pen or paper, i 
told you to look for a posting with the 'Whatever you do, take care of your 
shoes.' personal name; so here it is)

most of the people i went with weren't too familiar with phish, but on the whole 
they were impressed

i enjoyed santana as well, although i expended most of my energy during phish; 
santana does have an incredible percussion section, especially the dude on the 
bongos

i'll pass along the advice that was posted earlier and proved helpful for me; if 
you're interested in seeing all of phish, get there early; phish started about 5 
minutes early, and word is that they've been starting on time or early all tour

- rich

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From: Sarah Lefton <N570098@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu>
Subject: Another annoying MTV sighting
Reply-To: N570098@univscvm.csd.scarolina.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 00:40:29 GMT

   If I see one more Phish-Dead comparison on MTV news, I am going to
fly to NY and smash Kurt Loder a good one! They showed the HORDE bands
and then compared 'em to the Dead just now on the Week in Rock. At
least they gave band members a shot at defending their own style and
explaining why they understood the Dead comparions.  As much as I love the
Dead, it's time for the media to lay off and let these bands have their
own identities!!!!!
   Phish clips included "Bouncing Round the Room" and some jams which
I couldn't ID, sorry. They talked with Trey briefly.
   Loder also said described HORDE bands as "guitar-based neo-hippie jam
bands." I will have to disagree. Blues Traveler is certainly not guitar
based, nor are the Spins. While Phish utilizes some intense and central
guitar themes, I wouldn't call them a guitar band.
   And why do they keep neglecting my Southern representatives, ARU and
Widespread?? MTV must be too good for the South...


                                                  Sarah
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: William.A.Fekrat.1@nd.edu
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: William.A.Fekrat.1@nd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:20:00 GMT


Hello there!  Could you include me in your discussions or sign me up or
whatever has to be done to get the Phish digest.  Thanx!




Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Scott Bernstein <bernstei@remus.rutgers.edu>
Subject: The Phish Mailer
Reply-To: bernstei@remus.rutgers.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:38:09 GMT

Hi,
Anyone know who I can send a message to get on the Phish
mailing list for real paper mail?  I tried to find a sign up
list at the HORDE, and at the Santana show, but nobody seemed to
have one....
Thanks,
Scott Bernstein
9 Chelsea Drive
Old Bridge, NJ 08857-2619
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Carl E. Anderson" <canders@isr.harvard.edu>
Subject: MTV/videos/live album
Reply-To: canders@isr.harvard.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:20:51 GMT

 
| In article <14po7gINNi49@agate.berkeley.edu> shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson) writes:
| >Trey specifically asked me to invite people to transmit any questions or
| >comments on the subject to him (you can post on the net or email to me),
| >and he will respond.
| >Trey's concern over all of this just shows how much
| >they really do care.)
| 
| Still, it makes
| me think, it would be so cool if Phish came out with a concert video
| of some sort. I don't think that would be sacrificing any artistic 
| integrity and it would be a real treat to see. Maybe you could suggest
| that to Trey, Shelly? :-)
 
| Me and my buddy were talking yesterday and we would really like to see a  
| double live album featuring stuff that you can't get on record.  Just  
| curious what everyone thinks about this
 
| Someone suggested a concert video.. I think that would be great, if they
| could do it THEIR way, not MTV's way.. i.e. MTV not cutting them off, 
| etc.
| 
| I'd also like to see them release some live albums, even if they duplicate
| what's already out there.  I'd love to get my hands on some live Phish on CD.

	These are sentiments I've been seeing on the net for the better
part of a year.  People want to see Video Phish - not on eMTpV even but
just a self-produced video tape.  I don't think it would be unreasonable to
put out a 120 video tape of live footage.

	And there is agitation for a live CD as well.  I know Junta is
coming out (supposedly) in the fall, and they should have a new studio
album by next Jan or Feb, but perhaps by the end of next spring a live
double CD would be a plan.  I myself would love to have a kicking digital
of Mike's Groove ...

Cheers,
Carl

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From: ajs@jloda.cci.com (Alan Sodoma)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Finger Lakes Performing Arts Center
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:52:06 GMT
Reply-To: ajs@jloda.cci.com
Organization: The Internet

In article <1992Jul26.184333.1990@ultb.isc.rit.edu> you write:
|
|   Get there early!!!  Traffic can be a nightmare after 5:00, which may mean
|missing the opening band.  To get there from the west (like Rochester), take


My roommate called yesterday, and there were 'plenty' of tickets left
for both reserved and lawn seats.  So it might not be as bad as some of
the concerts that were practically sold out.  But then again, I could 
be wrong!  :-)

Anyway, I'll be there.  We don't have tickets yet, so we'll be at the
box office between 7 and 7:30.  I'll have on my net shirt, as long as
it's not in a huge pile of clothes on my bedroom floor.

See ya there.

Al Sodoma
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: marcus@vestek.com (Mark Stephen)
Subject: Re: complete Santa Barbara/Roseland
Organization: Vestek Systems
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 15:27:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.233104.8529@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Andy.Bensky@corp.sun.com writes:
>
>Set list from Santa Barbara:
>Set I:
>
>Buried Alive
>Possum
>It's Ice
>Bouncin'
>Split Open and Melt
>Rift
>Fee
>Maze
>Colonel Forbin's Ascent
>Gamehenge monologue
>Icculus 
>Fly Famous Mockingbird
>Run Like an Antelope
>
>Set II:
> 
> Sanity
> Llama
> Lizards
> Mike's Song
> I am Hydrogen
> Weekapaug Groove
> Horn
> Poor Heart
> Terrapin
> Carolina
> Memories
> Sweet Adeline
> Suzie Greenberg
>  
>  Encore:
>   
>  Sleeping Monkey
>================================================
>
>Roseland Ballroom, New York City, NY, 3/14/92
>
>The seed for the Roseland show is a digital clone of a digital 
>audience master made by Henry Petras using AKG 451 mics set up 
>fob into an SV255 DAT.  This is a very high quality audience tape.
>
>Set I
>-----
>Runaway Jim
>Cavern
>Reba
>Sparkle
>Foam
>Rift
>Stash
>Fee
>Chalkdust Torture
>Take the A Train
>Mikes Song ->
>I am Hydrogen->
>Weekapaug Groove
>
>Set II
>------
>Golgi Aparatus (static 5 secs from 3:23-3:28)
>Llama
>Squirming Coil
>Split Open And Melt
>Bouncin Around The Room
>Oh Kee Pa Ceremony
>Suzy Greenburg
>Harry Hood
>wizard of oz jam/cold as ice jam
>Craklin Rosie
>Possum
>
>encore:  ( w/ John Popper )
>Sleeping Monkey
>Good Times, Bad Times
>***************************************
>

     Thanks, Marcus
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: marcus@vestek.com (Mark Stephen)
Subject: Santa Barbara / Roseland Tree
Organization: Vestek Systems, San Francisco
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:16:04 GMT

Could someone please post the setlists for these two shows,
just got my tapes, but dont have a setlist.

     Thanks, Marcus
From: ABBIATI@biomed.med.yale.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: phishflames
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:30:22 GMT
Reply-To: ABBIATI@biomed.med.yale.edu
Organization: The Internet

Hi,
Please add me to your mailing list.

Thanks

John Pizzonia
From: btdy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: How about a live album
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:43:14 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <seQmUO_00WB245v1MU@andrew.cmu.edu>,
af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alan S. Ferrency) writes: 
>>In article <1992Jul25.150226.23798@wam.umd.edu> jdh@next08csc.wam.umd.edu (Jonathan David Harris) writes:
>>>Me and my buddy were talking yesterday and we would really like to see a
>>>double live album ...
>>
>>That sounds like a DAMN good idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Personally, I'd like to hear, on an album, stuff that just can't be done live.
> I'm not really sure what that is yet, but I'm sure they'll think of something.

horns.  Horns!  HORNS!!!!!!

- jeff

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: beowulf@wam.umd.edu (amealuh)
Subject: shows at Nectar's?
Summary: hrmm? 
Organization: Joe's Phishin' Tackle Shop
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:36:20 GMT

not too long ago, someone posted that they had a copy
of a show at Nectar's - anyone know what these shows
sound like?

early phish... hmm...

-a


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From: Siddharth.Soni@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Siddharth Soni)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: New phish fan wants older tapes
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:05:59 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

I can never find any of their older tapes in the record store.
Would anyone be willing to tape anything but their new album for me?
Ill obviously cover all shipping charges...

Is their older stuff even on CD? (i don have a cd player, just curious)

EMAIL: ssoni@csnext.colgate.edu

THANKS>

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