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From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: "Green Death" Beer
Date: 30 Jul 1992 19:31:15 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
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Reply-To: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
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In article <1992Jul30.180525.677@nmsu.edu> dtasman@mccoy.NMSU.Edu (Dan Tasman) 
writes:

>In Buffalo, we never called Genesee Cream Ale "Green Death".  We usually 
>called  them "Screamers", for the effect a can had on your digestive 
>system. 


The only beer I've heard called Green Death is Ranier Ale -- a potent
brew made in Washington that's certainly not for the faint of heart.
(It's sort of like Henry's Dark, only turbocharged.)

Until very recently, Ranier sold only the Ale in California.  But on 
the way to work this morning, I saw a billboard advertising regular
Ranier Beer. 


Geoff


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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Man Shot In Head Survives!
Date: 29 Jul 1992 23:40:19 GMT
Organization: Somewhere Over the Rainbow
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
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In article <25014@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov writes:

  +You can get along without a surprising amount of certain parts of your 
  +brain, as long as major blood vessels don't get holed in the process. 
  +This can be observed intuitively by thinking about brain tumors, lobo-
  +tomies, and so forth. Depending on the damage and the therapy 
  +afterwards and the phase of the moon, the victim might even resume some 
  +approximation of his or her previous lifestyle.

James Brady sort of comes to mind.

Terry "'course, Reagan is a good example where 
		you don't need a brain at all" Chan
  +
  +'Tis said that knowledgeable and craftsmanlike suicides put the 
  +muzzle in the mouth, which not only gives a greater chance of
  +hitting mission-critical portions of the brain but also misses the
  +thick, hard parts of the skull.  (Small caliber rounds might, under
  +some circumstances, fail to penetrate the skull.)  Putting the gun
  +to your head, even at the temple, is theatrical but suboptimal.
  +
  +Of course, you or I could accidentally shoot ourselves in the butt
  +with a .22, blow out an artery, and exsanguinate right there on the
  +range before the ambulance arrives.  But there are also people who
  +go on living, at some level ranging from pale-but-wiser to vegetable,
  +after botched attempts at homicide or suicide involving head shots.
  +Both physiology and luck have a lot to do with it, though when you get 
  +shot, your luck starts out bad by definition and tends to get worse.
  +
  +Joe "Kids, don't try this at home" Chew


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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: ME-163 Komet
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:25:42 GMT

Mike.Hoffmann@sniap.mchp.sni.de (Mike Hoffmann) writes:
: In article <92212.164939WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
: >the time, novel tail structure it also lacked landing gear using a belly-
: >skid for take-offs and God knows what for landings.

: It wasn't all that bad. Compared to some other of these birds - like the
: Fi-103 (V1)/manned version or the Bachem Natter - landing a Komet was as
: easy as in a Cessna 172.

Didn't it use a wheeled dolly for take-off. The belly skid would work for
landing.

Bill

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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Chelsea Clinton Fan Club
Keywords: Here come some normals. They look like...normal...Hawaiians.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:40:25 GMT
Organization: Loose Affiliation of Millionaires and Billionaires and Baby

Anthony A. Datri writes:
>>>>>Member of the Chelsea Clinton Fan Club  
>>>>I get the feeling that she's going to be rather a babe in a few years.
>
>Okay, I've waited long enough.  Who is this person?

Chelsea Clinton is the daughter of William and Hillary Clinton of Little
Rock, Arkansas. Somehow or other, TV film crews last week filmed
her, and normalcy lovers everywhere were delighted to discover a perfectly 
normal 12 year old girl. Since this happened in New York City, it was
news. If it happened in California it might have been news. Elsewhere,
its newsworthiness might have been questioned.
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Older than before.
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From: Mother Nature <gaea@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:00:22 GMT

lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>BTW, I have seen another round of Ginsu knife commercials.  No mention of 
>I or II this time around.

So tell me, what *IS* wrong with the Ginsu knives? I've never bought one but
I've always wanted to know.

Gaea
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From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Sanity
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:32:44 GMT

In article <Bs091t.515@world.std.com> lmh@world.std.com (Larry M Headlund) writes:
>(story of sane researchers posing as patients in mental hospital deleted) 
>
>	A punchline to this story which I always heard but which has
>not been mentioned here is that the _patients_ recognized the researchers
>as "normal" immediately.

I remember this from the original article, which I still can't place.
(Library time for Phil.)  I _think_ it was in Evergreen, and am quite
sure that it antedates the _Science_ article already cited.

Patients would come up to the researchers and say things like.  "You're
not crazy.  You're just doing an experiment."

Phil
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Price is Right T & A?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:42:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.012835.3986@bang.uucp> bam%bang@trout.nosc.mil writes:
>
>I do not know whether it actually made it on the air.  The tape I
>saw was shown to me by a Hollywood insider..
>

Would Richard Gere's gerbil be considered a "Hollywood insider?" 
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From: IZZYGQ9@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Melissa Silvestre izzygq9@mvs.oac.ucla.edu)
Subject: Re: Sanity
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:12:43 PDT

>> In article <1992Jul21.175314.14659@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>>>I have heard of how a couple of Psych Grad students decided to see how long
>>>it would take a mental hospital to determine that they were not insane, once
>>>they were committed. To this end, they fake the symptoms of schizophrenia (sp)
>>>and are commited. Once in, they act perfectly normal. The institution does
>>>not deem them sane. They finally get out 6 monthes later, after several
>>>friends come forward to tell the hospital that it was an experiment.
>
>>>my question is, is this true?
>
>I believe the article was called "Being sane in insane places".  Basically,
>a doctor posed as patient and faked symptoms to get admitted.  Once there
>he acted normally and took notes.  None (as in not one) of the doctors
>were willing to admit that he was normal.  His note taking was used as
>evidence of his illness.  Fortunately, for the pseudo-patient, the higher-ups
>in the hospital were in on the experiment and were able to "spring" him
>when he and they had had enough.
 I also heard this case in a psychology class. The way I remember
 it, the researcher (I think it was a grad student working FOR
 a professor, but maybe not) went with the single symptom of
 having heard a "voice" on X number of occasions (x being something
 like 2 or 3, I think), and on that basis was admitted as a
schizophrenic.  As soon as he was admitted, he answered all questions
truthfully, saying that he was not hearing voices (but not admitting
the original claim was a lie, of course).  Despite a complete lack
of any continuing symptoms, the staff would not release him until
the primary investigator (that's why I think it was a grad student)
came forward.  The "note taking behavior" was part of the version
I heard too.  The study was trying to demonstrate that the psych
staff in these facilities are out of touch with the actual mental
health of the inmates, or something like that.  The staff in
question as well as other researchers when the study was published
defended the staff by saying that the whole thing was based on the
the initial lie about hallucinations.  While that was true, our
professor pointed out that if the ONLY criteria the staff use to
to judge mental health is the initial symptoms, then they are
admitting that they in no way attempt to "cure" or make any changes.
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Bill Clinton is an alien from Zontar
Summary: PT Barnum was right
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:30:27 GMT
Reply-To: tjw+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


> ObUL : I believe (right) that this week's WWN has an alien endorsing
> Clinton on the cover. Says the alien gave Clinton the plan for the Democrats
> to fix our economy.

I certainly hope it is better than the plan that Elvis gave Ronald Regan
to fix the economy.  It was more "dribble down" than trickle down.  Although
I do feel like someone has p*ssed on us. ;-)

Terry "Elvis was kill in a Snuff Film at 11" Wood
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"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
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From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.sf.misc,rec.humor
Subject: Re: Agnostics and Athiests
Summary: Atheists vs. Athiests vs. Anti-orthographists?
Date: 27 Jul 92 04:34:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Jul27.043455.8189
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <2027@tsdiag.ocpt.ccur.com> jimb@tsdiag.ocpt.ccur.com (Jim Blakey N2MQE) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.120250.970@gvl.unisys.com> rafem@gvlf7-e.gvl.unisys.com (Ralph Marrone) writes:
>-In article <1992Jul24.073550.9101@clarinet.com> brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton) writes:
>->In article <CB.92Jul23171934@tamarack13.timbuk> cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster) writes:
>->
>->I would call myself an athiest.  I have no belief in god and have
>-
>-Agnosticism is the Schrodinger's Cat of theism.  Believers/Atheists...
>
>    I was sitting here 'a wonderin' what all this agnostic .vs. athiest

The misspellers are winning 2 to 1.


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From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: New UL!
Summary: here's a category, maybe we can come up with one
Keywords: samples inferior trial packages initial versions stealth.sig
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:52:56 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul16.165437.28720@engage.pko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com () writes:
>I like the idea of deliberately starting an UL to see what happens, but...


Well, there's that little problem again.  I, too, would enjoy being part
of starting one of these things, except that I think most of the ideas
I have *might* end up inconveniencing someone innocent, or worse.

Nonetheless, I've decided to relate the results of my statistically
insignificant and generally meaningless experience with a particular
category of products.  Some, or all, of these may already be UL's,
and/or there may be plenty of other problems with my theories, but...

	* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 
	*	Are product samples engineered 		    *
	*	to be BETTER than production products?      *
	* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

One example: razor blades.  I buy the new design trial package, with
only, (I'd better make up numbers in case only one manufacturer uses
the quantities I've encountered) let's say, four blades in it.  Refill
blade packages have .. uh, twelve.  Anyway, on a lark, and/or because
I've done a lot of travelling lately, I buy  more trial packages
to get the handles.  SO, switching back and forth between blades from
the trial packages and blades from the refill packages, I find I get
about *twice* the wear from the trial package blades.  We're not
talking pramid effects here, I treat all the blades exactly the same -
rinse carefully, tap on the sink, leave in the open to dry.
Now, the real numbers were
twelve "trial" blades and twenty "refill" ones, and
clearly there is *no* statistical validity, but the results were clear
to me.  Every "trial" blade lasted more shaves than 
three-quarters of the "refill" blades. These ARE the sort of statistics
individual consumers make decisions based upon, though.

Another example: Microwave brownies, the kind where the first package
has the plastic pan and then you reuse it with ingredient refills.
I can't get the refills to come out as well.  Maybe the pan changed
by cooking???

Another: Ink pens, in this case the free flowing ballpoints that
are kind of like a felt-tip in character, but can work the carbonless
copy in my checkbook.  The pen's maybe two years old when I buy the first
replacement, and the replacement's shot before I lose the receipt -
two months! (probably a shelf-life problem, I know)


Anybody else got a product to comment on??  I *really* dont want
to start something that gets people who make very sharp things for
a living angry with me!!!
From: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: CDs, Pens and Blue Lasers.
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:08:55 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Jul30.055802.9318@news.columbia.edu>,
lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) says:
>
>In article <11477@optilink.UUCP> manley@optilink.UUCP (Dave Manley) writes:
>
>>+ The SONIC CLARITY(tm) CORP., LTD. is an equal opportunity /  +
>>+ affirmative action employer. M/F/H/V/HVAC                    +
>
>Are you saying that your company gives affirmative action bias to High
>Voltage Alternating Current machines over humans?
>
Nah.  It's prejudiced towards Heating Ventilating and Air Conditioning. Stinker
faces!

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU    |       Lazlo Toth
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From: rubis@gagme.chi.il.us (Dave Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Kilroy
Originator: rubis@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 07:03:40 GMT

My father, a WWII veteran, told me a couple of stories about Kilroy
(making them perfect ULs, of course :-) when I was a kid.

1. When the Allies landed at Normandy beach, they found small signs
on the beach, "Kilroy was here".  Apparently they were placed there
by the commando scouts who quietly landed the day before.

2. When the Americans dug the charred Japanese bodies out of thier
tunnels on Iwo Jima, there was inside one of the caves, on a wall,
in large letters, in english, "Kilroy was here", with the pictogram.
No explanation given.


ObFact: I have personally seen the pictogram with the word "Kilroy" 
below it in a 1938 edition of Flying Aces Magazine.  So it dates 
from before WWII.

		Dave Svoboda, Palatine, IL
From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: The Marlboro Man and lung cancer
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:40:45 GMT

Since there was some discussion recently about whether or not ``the''
Marlboro Man developed lung cancer -- well, his obituary just moved on
the AP wire.  Wayne McLaren was diagnosed about 2 years ago, and became
an anti-smoking activist.  He was not the only Marlboro Man; the
article says that several dozen models were hired in 1975.
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Bear eats child's face
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:15:25 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

Some of these "City Slicker" incidents are nondestructive.  Mom,
who spent most of her life on concrete in Chicago and St. Paul, 
pulled off a good one when she and Dad retired to New Mexico.
As the family story goes, they were driving across west Texas and
she was absolutely captivated by the first really big tumbleweed
they saw rolling along.  Wanted to put it in the car and take it home.

Dad, ever the spoilsport when this sort of thing happened, patiently
explained that there would be plenty more where they were going.

Joe "At least it wasn't a rattlesnake" Chew
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From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: "Eat the rich"
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:02:25 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


Eating Raoul is a completely different movie, also starring Mary Woronov
and the guy she's almost always with whose name escapes me.
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From: glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha)
Subject: Re: SHOCKING STORIES
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:47:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.150218.22784@nntp.nta.no> styri@nta.no writes:
>[stories about RF antennas and microwave transmitters deleted]
>
>Some years ago I was told a story about the people packing the
>crisp bread at the Wasa factory (Sweden?). Sometimes they got
>ahead of the conveyor belt and grabbed into the oven to top a
>pile of bread. The problem was, it was a microwave oven, and
>several people cooked their hands from the inside.
>
>You may ask: Wasn't crisp breads too hot to handle? 

Those of us who have had a fair amount of experience working as a 
cook in a restaurant don't ask that. In my four or five summers of
experience, I've stuck my hand into lots of hot ovens (not microwave,
though). As long as I don't have to put my hand in the deep fryer or
grab the thermometer from the pizza oven (from experience, I can
decisively say a 500 degree metal thermometer is really painful to
pick up with your hand), I don't mind. Usually, you need to do little,
quick things:  nudge a pizza or pull out a sandwich laying in aluminum
foil.

I've also heard stories (although these are based on second-hand
experience, so I can't do any confirming here) of cooks working for
years at the Nabisco plant who thought nothing of removing, handling,
and actually *holding* items directly from the ovens. The *holding* part
is the difficult part. When I pull things from the oven (or broiler), I'm
usually only touching them with my fingertips, and I put them down within
seconds. I'm also dealing with fairly normal-sized ovens...not huge things
which cook megatons of baked goods, and therefore have to be kept at
insane temperatures to cook everything.

***gLITTOfERN*** glitto@iastate.edu
"Flipping a steak by hand is no problem."
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From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: "Eat the rich"
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:57:54 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>Krokus had an album a long time back with the song Eat the Rich, which
>was fairly popular.  The Headhunter album, I believe, which had a
>picture of a golden skull on the front.

The "Eat the Rich" art, though, was of a wolf holding a seperated
human hand in its mouth.  I know not only because I was there (they blew
Def Leppard away), but because I had such a shirt.

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From: huggins@dss1.austin.ibm.com (Jim Huggins         (8-8305))
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Price is Right T & A?
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:59:03 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <1992Jul19.130735.2966@desire.wright.edu> thayes@desire.wright.edu writes:
>I am told that other game shows have had there share of problems.
>For example, one excited contestant on "Price is Right" managed to
>extricate one of breasts accidently from beneath her tube top while
>she was "comin' on down!".  Or so I'm told...?

This is true.  I didn't see the original broadcast, but saw a replay of
it (with the woman's bare breasts covered by on-screen dots) on a blooper
show some years ago.  She lost control of her tube top while running down
the aisle, jumped up and down when she reached Contestant's Row, turned
around to wave to her friends in the audience ... and very quickly
dived under the lectern when she discovered her clothing problem ...

---------------------
Jim "but I didn't have a VCR at the time" Huggins
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From: datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri)
Subject: Re: "Eat the rich"
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:38:41 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

>>I'm almost certain that the movie postdated at least Krokus.

>You are all forgetting that Motorhead had a song "Eat the Rich" on the _Rock
>and Roll_ album (circa 1989).

What sort of number system do you use where the year 1989 was before 1983?
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