From: donny@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (donald.yerger)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy
Subject: Re: Toons/Drugs?/History
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:40:30 GMT
Organization: AT&T


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In article <1992Apr8.191852.7569@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS) writes:
>bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr) writes:
>
>>The smoking gun (or joint) for the drug influence of R&S is the exaggerated
>>timing of the gags.  It's perfect doper humor.  
>
>   Hmmm, I would have said the smoking gun is the obvious references to drugs
>that the show uses.  i.e. Stimp sticks out his toungue with a big grin and 
>displays all the stamps; everything that could possibly distorted to look 
>like a mushroom is made to do so.  Using 'druggy' effects is nothing new,
>using depictions of drugs IS (well, as far as I know, that is, and I mean in
>something that is presented to a mainstream audience, not underground cartoons)
>   I'm not complaining--I think this is great.  But aren't they really playing
>with fire by doing this?
>
>  ******** Tony Pulokas ****** U of Illinois / Urbana-Champaign *********#

Tony,

	I couldn't help but notice your missunderstanding about mushrooms.
The people who manufactured and distributed LSD, often did so
by placing a film of LSD on the back of a stamp.  The stamps often
had pictures of famous cartoon characters on the front.
	The scene where Stimpy sticks out his tongue revealing the 
unused stamps, is probably the most indicative of illicit drug use.
That is, if you are aware of the historical facts mentioned above,
you don't consider Stimpy just a stupid cat who got postage stamps
stuck on his tongue while in a furver of creativity, and you don't
consider the scene simply surreal (like the crocostimpy commuter
bus scene in Untamed World).
	There are to many people, unable to fathom surreality, who
must attribute surreal art an expression created by drugs.  It is
true that drugs may alter the senses creating a surreal perception.
But it is untrue that drugs are necessary to imagine a surreal 
preception of reality.  I myself am living proof that enjoyment 
of surreal expression does not require the use of drugs.
Many artist also do not need drugs to be creative or surreal.
My own imagination is adequate without the use of drugs.
	Salvadore Dali often used sensory depravation to 
aquire a surreal expression with little effect as possible from reality.
(Not that he didn't use drugs at all.  In his later years, sensory
depravation alone was his door to inner surreal insanity.)
	To those of you who think anything strange to the point 
of being; meaningless (to you ofcourse), and somthing you could not
possibly have imagined or thought of...BZZZZT You're not happy enough!!

Ren & Stimpy is to the popular children's cartoon world
as Salvadore Dali is to the Art world.


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*          * REN: Stimpy, sometimes your wealth of ignorance astounds me. * 
* Don Hoek * STIMPY: Daaa.  They don`t call me stupid for nothing.        *
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