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From: c9036984@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Definition of Flying: One must merely throw themselves at the ground and miss)
Subject: for sale!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:28:14 GMT

[Posted on behalf of a friend, please see below for contact details ]


I am moving interstate in less then 3 weeks time and would like to get
rid of as much of my 'excess baggage' before I go, so that I dont have to
find somewhere to store it. I have a number of items that I would like
to sell to anyone interested.... here's a list... make me an offer... I'll
probably
take it..

BOOKS:
Computer Science An overview  2nd Ed  J. Glenn Brookshear
Digital Design 2nd Ed  M. Morris Mano
Cooper's Condensed Pascal
Computers: The User Perspective 2nd Ed
EE130 & EE170 Laboratory Manual
Introduction to Computer Technology  Dr B.J.Cook
Microprocessors & Programmed Logic  K.L. Short
Dictionary of Animals   M.Chinery
Breakout! #37, 43 & 44
Corporate Combat  W.EPeacock
Master Ket to Riches  N.Hill
Secret of Inner Strength: My Story  C.Norris
Seeds of Greatness  D.Waitley
Personal Power Program  B.Lyon
Skill with People  L.Giblin
Ivy and Chrome (for Shadowrun)

3 Draw chest of Draws
AWA Clock Radio (AM/FM, Alarm etc)
Tape Holder (3 drawers, holds 36)
The *original* style DM's Screen for 1st Ed ADND

CDS:
Can't Fight Fate - Taylor Dayne
Chain Reaction - John Farnham
Why Fight It - Mondo Rock

Tapes:
Greatest Hits 2 - Queen
The Bridge - Billy Joel
Joyride - Roxette

Make me an offer, I'll probably accept it

bloodgor@maria.wustl.edu
or
Scott English
29 Roe St               681558
Mayfield NSW
2304

Newsgroups: aus.general
From: bernie@metapro.DIALix.oz.au (Bernd Felsche)
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Organization: MetaPro Systems, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 01:05:31 GMT

In <2314@pico.qpsx.oz.au> conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake) writes:

>An attempt to produce a city that doesn't require people to travel 50km+
> per day would have far more "merit".  

Yipeee!  We're starting to wake up.

>Let's face it, the 1/4 acre block and hills-hoist ethic was, is, and
>will always be a pipe dream in the context of CBD's containing over a
>million workers.  
         ^^^^^^^
Please don't insult the 90% of Public Servants who give the
other 10% a bad name. :-)

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Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.politics
From: suter@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Mr D. Suter)
Subject: Re: Vic Ministers Get $20,000 pay rise.
Organization: Monash University
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:58:55 GMT

In article <2311@pico.qpsx.oz.au> conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au writes:
>suter@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Mr D. Suter) writes:
>: 
>: I really can't believe that intelligent "socialists" can't understand
>: that this is the inevitable long term effect of indulging your
>: social compassion and simply borrowing money on behalf of
>: the poor souls you claim to be protecting. It's exactly akin
>: to advising someone on the breadline to live on bankcard without
>: considering that they will be FAR worse off a few years later
>: when the debt and interest has accumulated. Unfortunately,
>: such simple economics appears not in Cain or Kirners grasp.
>
>Dear David,
>   It was my understanding, through the media, that the huge debts of
>the Victorian Govt. are primarily the result of the failed business
>dealings of the '80s, and in particular, TriCo.  
Then you are sadly mislead. The huge debts of Trico etc contributed
about 4billion of a debt put somewhere around 40billion up (with the
emphasis on up).
>
>These sad tales of deception and inexplicable conduct resulted directly
>from the "economic rationalist" policies (a.k.a survival of the
>richest), not from any bleeding-heart socialist policies. Certainly,
>basic economics was abandonned, but only in the interests of
>deregulation. 
Whatever the cause of them, they simply added to a current problem -
spending way beyond your means, not properly estimating and catering
for or controlling future costs (e.g. workcare).
>
>Even federally, the lack of balance in the books cannot be blamed on
>"socialist" policies, with the tax system becoming steadly less
>progessive throughout the Labor years.  Have a look at the tax dept.
>figures for the average %ge tax paid by those with taxable incomes over
>500,000pa, and compare that to the effects that bracket creep have had
>on the percentage tax the average income earner pays.
I am in no way saying that socialist policies themselves are to blame.
One can have responsible socialist leaders as well as responsible
conservative leaders (except we seem to lack either). What I am 
criticising is the Cain/Kirner socialist EXCUSES for doing
precious little about a huge problem. (viz. we couldn't balance the
books because you wouldn't want to defer some hospital/school
building etc.)
What I was pointing out was merely the folly of such "head in the sand"
mentality - i.e., those schools/hospitals we now want to build/keep open
can't be funded because we pay OVER 25% of our taxes in interest
payments BEFORE we even look at reducing debt or funding new
projects. Sure, a Republican "read my lips - no new taxes" promise
is equally as blind if the alternative is huge debt accumulation.
d.s.

-- 
David Suter - Dept. of Electrical and
Computer Systems Engineering, Monash University,
Clayton, Vic. 3168, Australia
ph 565 5682 Fax 565 3454
Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.jobs
From: cctmw@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (Tytus Wiklendt)
Subject: Chem+Hist.Art qualif.descr., help needed, please. 
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:16:11 GMT

Hello Netters,

My friend from Poland asked me to inquire about possibilities
of job and/or further education available in Australia.

His education is Master of Chemistry from The Technical University
of Wroclaw and Mater of History of Arts from The University of
Wroclaw, both in Poland.

It is somewhat awkward to translate and compare degrees from
different countries. I read in some official book on the
subject that all Master degrees from Poland are recognised
as Bachelor degrees. Furthermore, maybe his chemical degree
would be better described as Chemical Engineering degree.

In conversation with different people I have learnt that
for him to progress it would be best to contact a museum
as PhD in such combination of degrees are particular to
"scientific restorer" position and are not available via
university courses.

We are now in the stage of preparing a CV for him in English.
It would help enormously if we had better background in
terminology and opportunities appropriate to his qualifications.

I would be very grateful for your suggestions and general or specific
remarks in that matter.

Regards, Tytus Wiklendt.
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Family Tree databases?
From: 9241170x@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Aaran Stent)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:35:07 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: La Trobe University

Does anyone know of on line family tree databases or records from the
UK.  Please send anything you think might help...

					Thanks.

Aaran Stent
9241170x@lux.latrobe.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Balogh)
Subject: ANON FTP: "WHY ARE THERE SO FEW FEMALE..." BY ELLEN SPERTUS
Organization: Monash University, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:05:35 GMT


Re: "Why Are There So Few Female Computer Scientists?" BY ELLEN SPERTUS (M.I.T.)

This paper is now available at Monash University.

Ftp to monu6.cc.monash.edu.au:/pub/womcs


Regards,
         Steve

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From: Bruce.Paterson@f543.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Bruce Paterson)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: EFTPOS
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1992 13:46:56 +1000

Obviously ! Track 2 contains something like 40 Octal Digits. The digits
on this track are VERY wide to ensure good reliability even as the card
degrades (Just take a look at your mag stripe after a couple of years !).
Each track (1->4) are encoded with different standards. Track 3 is about
twice the density of track 2. Track 4 is nominally ASCII data and may
be a fair bit longer......but 200k sounds extremely dubious ! I don't 
think track 1 is ever used ?
The clock is encoded in the data.
                                        Bruce, VK3TJN
(Hmmmm. I'll have to somehow get this thing to put in my .signature file ?)


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From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Jaguar XJ6 series 1 2 and 3 owners...
Date: 9 Nov 1992 03:41:49 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

Hi, if you live in Australia and own or have owned a XJ6 I'd like to 
have a chat to you.  I am a relatively new owner of a 1982 XJ6 (III)
and I am looking to chat to someone about mechanical issues.

Thanks in advance 

Scott.
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Joy is a Jaguar XJ-6 with a flat battery, a blown oil seal and an unsympathetic wife, 9km outside of a small remote town, 3:15am on a cold wet winters morning.
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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: I wish petrol were taxed more
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 07:30:41 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <chrisp.720868071@kultarr> chrisp@cs.uwa.oz.au writes:
 >  
 > To get personal vehicles off the roads an increased petrol tax for such
 > vehicles might be a good idea.  Implementation is always a problem of
 > course.  First a govt. is needed with the guts to aim a tax at the bulk of
 > the voting population.  Then we might find people trading in their
 > Commodores and Falcons for Macks and Kenworths.

:) Well, in the US they use a few ideas that are working quite well,
combined they make quite a bit of difference.

Most importantly, the one thing that really needs to be introduced here
is car-pooling. It's working quite well in SF/SJ. Especially in Perth,
with the modifications to the Mitchell Freeway we have (or rather HAD,
since it's too late to make any changes now) the opportunity to create
CARPOOL lanes. During peak-hour, these lanes are reserved for cars
carrying 2 (3, in some areas) or more people. These lanes effectively
widen the traffic flow by one lane, and since there is relatively
"little" traffic in this lane, it's an added incentive to get into
carpooling if you're a daily commuter who would otherwise get stuck in
the other two lanes.

There are even car-pooling schemes where you can register your name and
route of travel, and the registry will try to find other people in the
same area who might be able to share a car with you.

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From: harold@cs.uq.oz.au (Andrew Wood)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:26:37 GMT
Reply-To: harold@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1dd9c4INNphe@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> rcgaym@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Angus Y. Montgomery) writes:

>>timbomb@cs.uq.oz.au (Tim Mansfield) writes:

>>Of course, these cities have much higher population densities. In a city like
>>Melbourne, the public transport system is already making a gigantic loss. There
>>are simple not enough people to provide a system of the efficiency you would
>>like, all day, every day, without it being prohibitively expensive.

>oh, and the roads board makes a resounding profit?

>part of the problem of the perception of "the cost of public transport"
>lies in the differing evaluation of road-works and public-transport works.
>no-one expects a road to make a profit.

Talk to any traffic engineer! They will be able to tell you that there are
figures that indicate that roads generate HUGE profits!
Without roads, most commerce in our society would stop.
Roads and commerce are linked, commerce is taxed, -> the government does
not lose money by investing in roads. The profit is not direct, but it does
exist. 

I do not support the 'commute in a cage' side of this debate (I don't own
a car, and seldom drive one) but your cannot say that roads are uneconomic.

Andrew
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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: lad@ausom.oz.au (Lyn Dawson)
Subject: NLP
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:03:17 GMT
Organization: AUSOM - The Apple Users Society of Melbourne

Any Master Practitioners or Practioners who are interested in discussing
various aspects on the net, please reply!
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East Brighton
Victoria
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From: Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:30:07 GMT
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.5.23

In article <1992Nov6.161750.107@actew.oz.au> ina_pearce@actew.oz.au writes:

>this has forced me to use public transport even though it only takes me 10
>minutes to drive to work but 35 minutes (plus wating time) by bus. But I just
>cannot afford to pay $4 a day to park in town.

You could try a motorbike - easy (generally free) to park, no waiting, fun & 
games generally. Except in winter, which is not much fun at the best of 
times, but is it any worse than standing in the rain waiting for a bus?

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Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
From: gareth@lucifer.latrobe.edu.au (Chief Smeghead)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:59:47 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: La Trobe University

In article <Gary.Woodman.829.721532255@anu.edu.au> Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.172130.109@actew.oz.au> ina_pearce@actew.oz.au writes:
>>In article <Gary.Woodman.814.721279807@anu.edu.au>, Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.
>au (Gary Woodman) writes:>> In article <1992Nov6.161750.107@actew.oz.au> 
>ina_pearce@actew.oz.au writes:>> 

[...lots deleted...]

>>
>>you forgot to add very economical. I do have a bike license and used to ride
>>for years when I lived in Sydney.

[...lots deleted...]

Well it depends how you define economical. Leaner on fuel? Yes. Cheaper
to maintain? Probably. 

I rode motorbikes a few years ago and in '88 it cost me about $75,000. 

Let's see. Two knee reconstructions $30,000 , 10 months of physio $16,000,
one years lost wages $26,000, one bike $2500.

That's about $1500.00 a week. I should have leased a BMW 750i at about
$1000 a week and kept the change.

It would have cost me about $3000 if I had been in a car.

Still they're better fun than cars and as long as you're prepared to 
cop the consequences then choose what you like...

Gareth.

p.s. where did I put that latest Harley price list...

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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: bill@citr.uq.oz.au (Bill Segall)
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:17:28 GMT

I agree with your sentiments entirely. Didn't Ros Kelly (as minister for
the environment) have a plan that involved doubling the tax component on
petrol over a 10 year period. I wonder whatever happened to that; probably
shelved as a result of some election.

Interestingly, Hewson's fightback package lowers the tax on petrol and
increases it on food and clothing. A modern day Queen Mary perhaps?

Advisor: "But John the peasants have no bread"
JH:	 "Let them eat petrol"

Bill.

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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: quodling@peevax.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Family Tree databases?
Organization: PC/PCI Appl Group
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:49:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.123507.24036@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>, 9241170x@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Aaran Stent) writes:
> Does anyone know of on line family tree databases or records from the
> UK.  Please send anything you think might help...
> 
> 					Thanks.
Contact  your local Latter Day Saints church. Most of them, have or have access
to Genealogical Libraries. THey don't mind non-lds types using the
facilities...


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From: brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones)
Newsgroups: aus.general
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Date: 8 Nov 92 02:10:11 GMT

in article <-1364943455snx@izumi.DIALix.oz.au>, michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) says:
> Most importantly, the one thing that really needs to be introduced here
> is car-pooling...  the opportunity to create CARPOOL lanes. During
> peak-hour, these lanes are reserved for cars carrying 2 (3, in some areas)
> or more people. These lanes effectively widen the traffic flow by one lane,
> and since there is relatively "little" traffic in this lane, it's an added
> incentive to get into carpooling if you're a daily commuter who would
> otherwise get stuck in the other two lanes.

In Sydney these lanes are called transit lanes, and are on all the major
arterial routes into the city that aren't near train lines, such as Epping
Road, Military Rd, and Victoria Rd.  They were introduced in the '70s.

T3 transit lanes (such as on the roads above) require three people in the car
to be legally used, else there's a hefty fine - over $150 I think.  There's a
also a T2 lane on Windsor Rd near Parramatta, which is only 4 lanes wide.

I used to live on the Northern Beaches in Sydney, and it was not at all
unusual to be waiting at a bus stop and be asked by a passing driver if you
wanted a lift into the city so that they could take advantage of the transit
lanes.  There was an unwritten rule that if you were picked up, the passengers
shared the Harbour Bridge toll.

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Newsgroups: aus.general
From: c.oneill@trl.oz.au (Chris O'Neill)
Subject: Re: I wish petrol were taxed more
Organization: Telecom Australia Research Laboratories
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 01:34:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.201719.25710@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
daniel@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen) writes:
>In <1dqdaoINN79k@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> s900387@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Craig
Macbride) writes:
>
>>Notice how low the price of inner-city office space is in Melbourne? Lots
>>of people have finally realised that there are very few advantages to
>>running offices in the city. If the employers move to the suburbs and
>>employ people who are (or move to be) mainly in the same area, this whole
>>silly situation of people driving ludicrous distances every day can be
>>avoided without any of the nasty methods (taxing petrol, higher-density
>>living) mentioned in this discussion so far.
>
>Ah, but this doesn't happen. For instance, when Coles-Myer moved out of
>Melbourne to Toronga, the numbers of people commuting by car shot up,
>and the numbers by public transport fell. A company is just not going to
>hire people who happen to live near their office.
>
>Also, developments away from the city cost a LOT in new infrastructure,
>such as new phone lines, power, sewerage, to cope with the influx of
>people. The city already has these. 

So do the suburbs.

Chris O'Neill
Telecom Research
Newsgroups: aus.general
From: stuarta@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Stuart Andrews)
Subject: Re: 11-11-92
Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:09:39 GMT


> Today marks the day why Australia should be a republic.
> Commiserations to one and all.

WOW! Wacko! There's one born every minute methinks!


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Newsgroups: aus.general,aus.politics
From: MDR <matthew_riddle.pharmacology@muwayf.unimelb.edu.au>
Subject: Re: Vic Ministers Get $20,000 pay rise.
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72052EFD7019C32@mriddle.insted.unimelb.edu.au>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 6 Nov 92 00: 50:55 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:50:11 GMT

In article <9230313.10064@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Tim Leask,
tsl@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU writes:
>I'm amazed that there's been little or no media attention given to the
fact
>that all the salaries of Victorian Government ministers are to go up
>by $20,000 dollars. I should also point out that the present government

FYI, my brother in law works at State Parliament, and he told me that
there were 17 divisions on the night that this legislation went through. 
17 is a rather large number of divisions considering the majority the new
government holds, to put it mildly.  My own feeling is that they wanted
to miss the morning press, considering that the session didn t end until
4.00am.
From: Bruce.Paterson@f543.n635.z3.fidonet.org (Bruce Paterson)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au