HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller X7114)
Newsgroups: sci.environment
Subject: Re: Concern For Ozone Depletion Clear, Knowledge of CFCs Mostly
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:56:36 GMT
Organization: Western Geo. - Div of Western Atlas Intn'l Inc., Houston, TX

In article <1992Dec28.191859.15570@en.ecn.purdue.edu> ghg@en.ecn.purdue.edu (George Goble) writes:
>Actually they are rubber, about 1 inch diameter.

Good grief, the rubber hose? I had a problem with those plastic ones (well,
braided something-or-other) in my '77 LeBaron and I thought you meant those.

>I will email you the info.. 

So you did. Thanks! You may be getting an order in the spring if those 
spring-lok thingies in the Ford have choked again. The Bug, however,
will probably not need any.  :-)

>hydrocarbons are flammable!  

This I knew. Pardon me, I'm a little slow.  :-)   Now I understand
all your cryptic (to me, anyway) comments.

As you say, who cares when you're carrying around 10-20 gals of gasoline?

>Current "ozone safe" (but high
>global warming) R-134a A/C owners, are reportedly being charged

Is R-134a what some of the new Ford Taurus's have in them?
--
Griff Miller > miller@monarch.wg3.waii.com < use this for email.

          *** My opinions are mine, not Western's. ***

   "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but 
    fools despise wisdom and discipline."   - Proverbs 1:7 
Newsgroups: sci.environment
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: From radical to common sense (Was: ...paving moratorium)
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
Date: 30 Dec 92 14:17:29

Actually, I take back my hint that Michael Smith is whining.  I figure
that both we rightists and them there leftists lose face by accusing
each other of whining.  We should accuse each other of snarling.  It
comes to the same, and it will make the spectators regard us both as
something fierce.
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
From: Charles W. Elliott <celliott@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: sci.environment
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:57 PST
Subject: Re: has anybody heard of this letter?
Nf-ID: #R:misty.boeing.com:115110001:cdp:1466602016:000:1228
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!celliott    Dec 22 18:57:00 1992


The writer Mr. Wilson indeed jumped to conclusions. While the scientists'
warning does refer to global warming, it does so only in the context of
a much broader statement addressing a wide range of environmental
impacts from human activities, including, e.g., impacts on
biodiversity, water resources, soil depletion, and the impact of
human population growth. Thus, it should be clear that a wide range
of scientific disciplines are involved; the Nobel laureate
signators to which the UCS statement refers are Nobel laureates in
the SCIENCES. These are the people Mr. Wilson refers to as the 
"so-called scientists". The fact that they do not all possess degrees in
"meterology" [sic - I assume he means "meteorology"] is of no
moment whatsoever. But because the writer focuses on global
warming, with respect to that subject in particular, the statement
text (which I now have in front of me) states: "Increasing levels
of gases in the atmosphere, including carbon dioxide released from
fossil-fuel buring and from deforestation, may alter climate on a
global scale. Predictions of global warming are still uncertain --
with projected effects ranging from tolerable to very severe - but
the potential risks are very great."
From: richard@TIS.COM (Richard Clark)
Newsgroups: sci.environment,talk.environment
Subject: Re: Why do they hate us?
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:14:38 GMT
Reply-To: richard@TIS.COM
Followup-To: sci.environment
Organization: Trusted Information Systems


In article <1hnh05INNnna@gap.caltech.edu> you write:
>In article <1992Dec21.225740.20062@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, 471-1@air.atmo.arizona.edu (E. Shane Jimerfield) writes:
>
>>I also made reference to Chernobyl and was then asked to keep my
>>references to the U.S. on the grounds of:
>>"The reason for limiting the search to the U.S., or any other Western Country,
>>is not underhanded.  Chernobyl was due more to the failing of an incompetent
>>and illegitimate system than the failure of Nuclear Power.  The (now defunct)
>>U.S.S.R. was rife with similar examples of irresponsibilit and the system
>>succumbed, inevitably, to its failings".
>>
>>What do you think about this?
>
>The management of the plant at Chernobyl was deliberately running the reactor
>well outside of specifications.  There was no clear benefit to be gained by
>running the reactor in that way.  The basic design of the reactor made running
>it in that fashion intrinsically dangerous, a fact known to the management at
>the time.
>
>Perhaps you could favor us with a realistic scenario as to how the same sort of
>thing might happen in a commercial reactor in the United States?
>
>Please don't forget to include the vastly different reactor designs in your
>scenario.
>
>Thanks.
>Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

	I wish I had Carl's faith in the US Govt. :) BWAAAAAAHAHAHAAAA! :)

	Realistic scenario? Easy. What makes you think the US govt is not
becoming more and more corrupt and incapable of performing its functions?
What happens when the powers-that-be decide that its OK to abuse a reactor
when they can't find funding to build a new one? Or when they know the
regulators aren't looking? It costs mega-dollars to shut one of them things
down, even for a little while for repairs. In a buck-driven society, people
are meaningless, the greenback is lord. Sorry Carl, but as optimistic as
I'd like to be, the only reality I can logicaly envision is not pretty.

	Nuclear power safe? Only as long as its governing bodies are stable.
The collapse that happened in the (former) USSR will eventually and inevitably
happen here... Oooooo the ugliness... I think I'll stick my head back in the
sand, butt in the air, and just give up and wait...





-----------------------Relativity Schmelativity-----------------------------
 Richard H. Clark				My opinions are my own, and
 LUNATIK - watch for me on the road...		ought to be yours, but under
 It's not my fault... I voted PEROT!		no circumstances are they
 richard@tis.com				those of my company...
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From: ann@cco.caltech.edu (Ann Terese Heil)
Newsgroups: sci.environment
Subject: Molybdenum in Sewage
Date: 29 Dec 1992 19:01:00 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: alumni.caltech.edu

I am doing a study of routes by which molybdenum enters the sewer system,
via both domestic and industrial sources.  If anyone has information
regarding uses of molybdenum which could cause this compound to be 
discharged to the sewerage system, I would very much appreciate hearing
from you.  I am also interested in finding references that discuss this
subject.  

ann@alumni.caltech.edu

Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: towheed@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (NSSDC, NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center)
Subject: Scott Paris Call Home !
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:22:00 GMT

Yo Scott !


			CALL SYED !



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The views expressed above are mine, and mine alone.  I do this with the 
understanding that the Constitution on the United States of America guarantees
this right to all within its shores.  The message was typed in my own time and
on my own free will.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Syed S. Towheed >>>>>>>>
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: rptjr@brahms.udel.edu (Richard Terrell)
Subject: Infection...Help (M)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:33:33 GMT

Hey netland!  I've got a good one for you: I am a researcher at University
of Delaware currently working on weakfish (Cynoscion regalis), a saltwater
fish that lives off the East Coast over the continental shelf.  We have
several 300 gallon tanks with UGF's and canister filters (Ocean Clear).  A
couple days ago we noticed a white stringy mass on the eyes of one of the
fish.  According to Mardel's disease chart, this would be some kind of
bacterial infection and should be treated with Maracyn.  So we did that
along with Maroxy in a 150 gallon hospital tank.  The infection does not
appear to be improving, but it doesn't look worse either.  Anybody got any
ideas?  We have a limitted number of fish to work with for the winter
(since all of them have migrated to deep water off the Carolinas for the
winter) so any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Replies
should be e-mailed to: "rptjr@brahms.udel.edu" or posted on the net. 
Thanx in advance 8^)
		--Rich

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From: kathyt@next2.isi.edu (Kathy Thompson)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: help with sick fish
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:10:59 GMT
Distribution: usa


I hope someone can help, I need some advice on what to do with a sick  
fish.  The fish in question is a Sunfish.  On Friday I noticed that the  
fish had a white, perfectly  
round circle on his bottom lip.  It looked like he might have scraped or  
bruised his lip on something.  Last night the fish was swimming a little  
crooked, sort of leaning to one side.  The fish has been hanging around  
under the filter so the water has been hitting him.  I added some  
anti-fungal medicine last night, and I also looked in the fish book, but  
did not see anything that looked similiar.

On Friday, I did a partial water change and also removed part of my UGF.   
After removing it I noticed bunches of small worms, that were living under  
the filter.  (They were rolled up in bunches).  The worms were a whitish  
color. Could this be the cause of the white circle?  Does anyone know what  
those worms are?  Are they dangerous?  Please help!  I'd appreciate any  
advice.  BTW, the other fish in the tank are Cichlids, and 2 plecs.

Thanks,

Kathy  
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: sjlt@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sean Lev-Tov)
Subject: Re: Infection...Help (M)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 20:17:31 GMT

In article <BzoBJx.KwG@news.udel.edu> rptjr@brahms.udel.edu (Richard Terrell) writes:
>Hey netland!  I've got a good one for you: I am a researcher at University
>of Delaware currently working on weakfish (Cynoscion regalis), a saltwater
>fish that lives off the East Coast over the continental shelf.  We have
>several 300 gallon tanks with UGF's and canister filters (Ocean Clear).  A
>couple days ago we noticed a white stringy mass on the eyes of one of the
>fish.  According to Mardel's disease chart, this would be some kind of
>bacterial infection and should be treated with Maracyn.  So we did that
>along with Maroxy in a 150 gallon hospital tank.  The infection does not
>appear to be improving, but it doesn't look worse either.  Anybody got any
>ideas?  We have a limitted number of fish to work with for the winter
>(since all of them have migrated to deep water off the Carolinas for the
>winter) so any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated.  Replies
>should be e-mailed to: "rptjr@brahms.udel.edu" or posted on the net. 
>Thanx in advance 8^)
>		--Rich


Rich,

The stringyness makes me think that maybe the fish has a fungus infection.
I can only speak from experience with fresh water fish.  When they had fungus
infections (usually on the mouth or fins), I tried Mardel's Maroxy with no
effect.  What worked was some tablets called FungusCure that discolored the
water a lot, but worked.  I think it's made by Aquarium Products.  I'm not
sure if it works for saltwater.  I've read about treating freshwater fungus
infections with saltwater baths and copper.  Does anyone know if a freshwater
bath would help with this?  Is the fish in full strength seawater (I know it`s
found in the brackish waters of the Chesapeake Bay)?

Sean
From: drchambe@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Dennis Chamberlin)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
Subject: Re: Infection...Help (M)
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:03:43 GMT
Reply-To: drchambe@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Dennis Chamberlin)
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

>In article <BzoBJx.KwG@news.udel.edu> rptjr@brahms.udel.edu (Richard Terrell) writes:
>>several 300 gallon tanks with UGF's and canister filters (Ocean Clear).  A
>>couple days ago we noticed a white stringy mass on the eyes of one of the
>>fish.  According to Mardel's disease chart, this would be some kind of
>>bacterial infection and should be treated with Maracyn.  So we did that
>>along with Maroxy in a 150 gallon hospital tank.  The infection does not
>>appear to be improving, but it doesn't look worse either.  Anybody got any
>
>
I recently had a heniochus develop a popeye condition with some external 
white stuff on it. Limited response to a product called Eye Fungex (two-part
treatment of siver nitrate and K dichromate, directly applied.) Then tried
a product called Furan-2, which is yellow stuff added to the water (guess
that's not very specific, but the package is at home.) 

The Furan-2 knocked it right in the head. Noticeable improvement in less 
than 24 hours. Gone after two treatments. No noticeable effect on filtration.
The treatment regimen was:

1 capsule in 10 gallons.
1 capsule again the third day.
wait 24 hours
strip medication with 50% change, dose with Shieldex, and restart carbon 
filtration.

As usual, I don't know exactly what the disease agent was, only the symptom. 
Guessed right this time. Good luck.
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: tenka@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Andy Tenka)
Subject: HELP!!!! What to do with 75 gallon tank and warped stand???
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 03:48:40 GMT

I just set a newly bought 75 gallon tank.  Everything look OK, no leak, etc.
I moved several fish to the new tank already when I saw that the wooden stand
is a bit warped at one corner.  There is a 2/10 inch of gap between the bottom
of the tank and the stand at that corner.  The dimension of the tank is asi
follow:
	48 inch long
	18 inch deep
	21 inch high

The warp starts about 13 inches from the corner on the front side, and about
15 inches on the side.  So far, there seems to be no leak, yet (After about 4
hours of fully filled tank).

Will this be a problem?  Do I need to to anything about it?  Or can I just
leave the set-up as is?  Please respond quickly, if there is going to be
problem with my tank.  Thanks a bunch, everybody.


Andy

ps: Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!!!!!




Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
From: carmody@rtsg.mot.com (Ronald P. Carmody)
Subject: [F] Pterophyllum Scalare
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:40:51 GMT

I am tring to answer the question :

     What is the best artificial environment for Pterophyllum Scalare.
                      ----------------------


I am assuming the following : 

     I have a one year old mated pair of Pterophyllum Scalare.  My goal
     is to produce the healthest possible artificial environment.


The following is a list of parameters I consider to be most important.
Please make any comments about those parametes AND/OR add your own!
You can post replies or e-mail to :
carmody@marble.rtsg.mot.com  or  phobia@sabrina.dei.unipd.it


1) Aquarium parameters
	1a) Volume
	1b) Dimensions
	1c) Substrate
	1d) Plants
	1e) Rocks
	1f) Other

2) Lighting parameters
	2a) Day Intensity
	2b) Night Intensity
	2c) Daytime duration
	2d) Nighttime duration
	2e) Other

3) Water parameters
	3a) Temperature
	3b) pH
	3c) Hardness
	3d) Ammonia level
	3e) Nitrite level
	3f) Nitrate level
	3g) Circulation
	2h) Other

4) Diet parameters
	4a) Type
	4b) Quantity
	5c) Other

5) Occupants (other)
	5a) Type
	5b) Quantity
	5c) Other

6) Other



Xref: sparky sci.aquaria:1811 rec.aquaria:9717 alt.aquaria:6334
From: jimh@ultra.com (Jim Hurley)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: HELP!!!! What to do with 75 gallon tank and warped stand???
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:04:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies

You didn't mention if the tank were plastic or glass.
However, that doesn't make much difference, you must have
a flat surface to place any tank. If it is glass, most likely
a seal will break over time, if plastic, the tank may warp over time.

All tanks I purchased have the guarantee voided if the tank isn't 
on a flat surface. On the glass tanks, you shouldn't be able to push
an index card under any part of the bottom.



-- 
Jim Hurley --> jimh@ultra.com  ...!ames!ultra!jimh  (408) 922-0100
Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Daggett Drive / San Jose CA 95134
From: pjs@gvgdsd.GVG.TEK.COM (Peter J. Stonard)
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria
Subject: Re: newsgroups
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:07:40 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgdsd.gvg.tek.com

In article <78629@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt6441c@prism.gatech.EDU (Jon Edwards ) writes:
>I was told once that there is no such thing as a stupid question, so here goes:
>
>  Are rapid start (don't need starters) ballasts necessarily "electronic" 
>ballasts, or do they usually say "electronic" on them?
Well, it looks like we've run out of names for all these subtle variations!
The ballast/transformer used with these bulbs is indeed 'electronic',
but it is not 'solid-state' as it works without semiconductors. When it
came in to exsistence there were no solid state parts (1940's), and
what we call 'electronic' appliances today was limited to vacuum tube 
radio and gramaphones back then.

It would be very confusing if a ballast company had put 'solid-state' on
a tar and iron inductor, even if it is literally true!

Drawing a parallel from other things in our modern world, I think all
lighting controls will be 'solid-state' 'electronic' in the near future.
Before that happens it looks like there is a cost driven non semiconductor 
lighting system that we are seeing in the less-than-$10-shoplights market.

It wasn't a stupid question. 

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Grass Valley Group      +                       /^\     /   \/
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pjs@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com  +     Fish keeper in the Sierra Foothills
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If it looks like; sounds like; quacks like; an Opinion. It's mine.
Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: dbs@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Dave Sheehy)
Subject: Re: HELP!!!! What to do with 75 gallon tank and warped stand???
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 21:55:23 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Andy Tenka (tenka@en.ecn.purdue.edu) wrote:
: ... 
: The warp starts about 13 inches from the corner on the front side, and about
: 15 inches on the side.  So far, there seems to be no leak, yet (After about 4
: hours of fully filled tank).
: 
: Will this be a problem?  Do I need to to anything about it?  Or can I just
: leave the set-up as is?  Please respond quickly, if there is going to be
: problem with my tank.  Thanks a bunch, everybody.

I'll second the notion that the tank MUST be set up on a flat surface. Not only
may a seal fail down the road but one of the glass panes may crack (typically
the bottom one) and then you'll be up a creek. As a matter of fact someone at
work recently had the bottom pane of their tank crack. My first question was
whether the tank was set up on a flat surface. The answer was no. I always
place a layer of styrofoam between the tank and whatever it's sitting on just
to make sure. The styrofoam will allow the tank to self level itself to a 
degree. It's cheap insurance to avoid getting 50 gallons of salt water in the 
living room carpet.

: Andy

Dave Sheehy

Newsgroups: sci.aquaria,rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: tariqh@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Tariq Hamid)
Newsgroups: sci.lang
Subject: Re: Need help with Mongolian (Urdu)
Keywords: SCA, Urdu, Mongolian, Mongol
Date: 23 Dec 92 08:36:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <1992Dec23.014814.20173@trl.oz.au> jbm@hal.trl.OZ.AU (Jacques Guy) writes:


>>In <1903@niktow.canisius.edu> salley@niktow.canisius.edu (David Salley) writes:

>>>Greetings!  I am looking for someone who can answer a few questions on Urdu,
>>>the language of the Mongols.  I am a member of the Society for Creative
>>>Anachronism where everybody pretends to be someone who might have lived in
>>>the middle ages and researches their persona.

>to which Tariq Hamid replies:

>>You're 2000 miles wide of the mark, buddy. The Urdu language originates from
>>India. 

>I think David Salley merely confused "Urdu" and "Ordos". The latter is indeed
>dialect of Mongolian. So, Ordos is want you want, David. Actually, I think
>that for your purposes, *any* dialect of Mongolian would do just as nicely.
>If someone in your Society for Creative Anachronism knows Russian, you're
>in luck: there are Mongolian handbooks galore published in Russia. Otherwise,
>dig into your local university's library, crossing fingers.

In addition to stating that he wanted to know about Urdu, David Salley also
referred to the phrase "Cori Ghora" (pronounced "ChoRee GhoRda") ,  which means 
"stolen horse" in Urdu. Any suggestions for what it might mean in Ordos ? :)

Now I am confused !

Peace
					tariq
Newsgroups: sci.lang,misc.misc
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Need some Latin translated
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 10:34:02 GMT

I've got about 60 short Latin phrases that I need translated, and my
Latin sucks.  I spent a few hours with Bartletts and found that about
half were "classical" phrases, so I have the meanings of those.  That
leaves about 30. I've headed down to my bookstore, nothing on Latin
(doesn't seem to be in big demand these days), I've got other stores
to try but it'll be about a week.  So... if anyone is familiar enough
that they could whip off some translations without too much trouble
I'd appreciate it. (BTW, these all come from the Asterix books...)

Vae victo vae victis
Quomodo vales
Visi (need the exact conjugation here)
Video meliora proboque deteriora sequor
Quis, quid, ubi, quibus auxiliis, cur, quomodo, quando
Plaudite cives
Ita diis placuit
Exegi momentum aere perennius
Victrix causa diis placuit sed victa catoni
Victurus te saluto
Fluctuat nec mergitur
Sol lucet omnibus
Dignus est intrare
Ab imo pectore
Bis repetita don't always placent (Latin/english mix)
Et nunic, reges intelligite... erudimini qui judicatis terram
Beati pauperes spiritu
Mon repos
Mea Requies
Maior e longinquo reverentia
Quousque tandem
Vadere quo
Gloria victis
Veritas odium parit
Vinum et musica laetificant cor
De mortuis nil nisi bonum
Qui habet aures audiendi audiat
Donec eris felix, multos numerabis amicos
Uti, non abuti
Non licet omnibus adire corinthum
Contraria contrariis curantur
Quot capita, tot sensus

-- 
Boy, the 90's are great!  Automated banking, fax machines, electronic gas
pumps... pretty soon I'll be able to go through an entire day without having
to talk to anybody!