HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Errata: "Tal-Choom" (fig.) Rhon [1-4 of 4] articles
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 18:26:53 GMT
Organization: What Org?

	8 bit clean doesn't seem to include 0x00 - 0x19,
	most of which are control-char.

	If you don't have any of 0x00 - 0x19, it should work;
	otherwise, use "uuencode" to encode it to ASCII form.

	Most of times, I do compress it before I use uuencode;
	and guessing from what's being posted, I don't think you
	need split them if you compress it (if you have to,
	there are many Public Domain tools that uuencode & split
	- and there's always bulit-in standard UNIX command 'split'
	if you don't have those tools).  However, it's always safer
	to keep them under about 930-950 lines if it's ASCII per
	article.

Regards,
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: RELIABILITY of POLLS in KOREA ???????
Date: 7 Jan 93 05:00:22 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan7.020309.74276@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MI
NHO JO) writes:


[Please disregard the first post]


I have been reading the heated discussions on polls in Korea.

Even if it is not really important to me,  I'd like mentioning something in
relation to the polls in Korea.


   Assumption 1:  The results of the polls in korea, are not really reliable.


         Proof:    The Korean people are reluctant to disclosing something
                   inside their minds (Presumably, they are still influenced
                   by the horrifying military regime. For instant, Gin-Geoub
                   -Jochi-Bub, Boanbub, You-Un-Bia-Bub, Bub, Bub, Bub
                   have kept something inside their mouth)

                   It definitely gives bad credits to the polls in Korea.


   Assumption 2:  The results are varying with which organization/company.
                  (Under assumption that assumption 1 is false, i.e., the polls
                   are very reliable)


         Proof:    They believe that the results of the polls might
                   have a serious impact on the election.
                   If we see the current election raw prohibiting the
                   publication of the poll results,  we can be able to
                   tell how much they are scared with the results of the polls.

                   Correspondingly,  the results of the poll can possibly
                   be distorted,  or will not be announced unless the results
                   are in favor of a specific candidate.





With these backgrounds,  let's review two cases:

             1. Why did the YS's side (including his poll contractors, Gallup,
                and Korean Research Center)  NEVER announce that YS was
                lagging behind DJ right after the PUSAN scandal ?


             2. Why did the DJ's side make publications of the poll
                results of DJ's first leading YS right after the Pusan scandal.
                The DJ's side even used the results, a day before the election.

                (PS. The DJ's side was frankly announcing the poll results
                of DJ lagging behind YS)

Now what is the conclusion of the assumptions ?
Could I leave the conclusions to your nice logic function ?



                Minho Jo, Lehigh University
                Computer Integrated Manufacturing Lab.,
                Industrial Engineering Department


My ultimate goal is to build, "Warm-Hearted Human Integrated Society"

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 1993 03:24:58 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Goodbye, Cruel World.
	<1993Jan5.012826.13162@news.acns.nwu.edu>

Mr.JChoi writes,(enlight of Mr.HEChon)


.

>>Goobye, Cruel World
>>
>>Goodbye, cruel world, I'm leaving you today
>>Goodbye, goodbye, goodbye.
>>Goodbye, all you people, 
>>There's nothing you can do to make me change my mind
>>Goodbye...
> 
>Heavy drinking is known to cause the attitude above.  Boys, don't drink &
>drive or drink & post.
> 
>>Henry E Chon
> 
James Choi


We should make sure that this person is not going to commit suicide but instead
likes Robert Waters's songs(bassist for the old Pink Floyd)! Are ypu
still with us Henry!


Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 1993 04:51:28 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: I understand! (was Re: Maybe you'all don't understand!)

Ms. RSeung writes,

.

>AsanoKun,
> 
>TaiShiTa OToKoJa NaiWaNe, MatTaKu!  MotTo JouZuNa IhWaKeWa NaiNo?
>ANaTaWa NiHonJinNo HaJiDaWa!  DeNaOShiTe KiNaSaiYo BohYa!
> 
>ATo, WaTaShiWa AJumMaJa NehYo!
> 
>--
>Rachael HeJa-Keiko Seung YoRi.

I think that it is great that you can speak Japanese. I wish that I was
as great as you in the Hunguk language as well. As an artist, one of my
paintings, "I'll always be with you" in my gallery showing here at
Andrew U. entitled, Atarashii
Shourai-Shunga II". I ended up giving this to the lovely lady at
"Winners"(A Korean restuarant in Oakland here in Pittsburgh). 

At any rate, I feel stange by your angle. So, I'll just call it the way
that I see it. I am not interested in impressing anyone! Sorry! Nor am I
interested in "being" a man. I am a man! My intention of disagreement
with my government on this issue has nothing to do with gender. Or this
Mysterious "woman"!

I do feel bad and perhaps hurt that you have implied that I indirectly
think of this woman as some kind of "bitch"! This is your imagination.
Again, sorry! I wish that you as a person were of more academic
standard. I don't blame you personally I blame... The University of
Pennslyvania, of course. It is my hope that you may see that politics
can and is a ruthless system that has demanded the lives of countless
humans. In the future, please try to understand this.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: Seokmin Ahn <smahn@vx.cis.umn.edu>
Subject: Q: Is there any way to read Korean BBS news using E-mail?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A77848DD2701C378@me51-3-120.me.umn.edu>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 12 Jan 93 10:07:25 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:03:51 GMT

Hi, netters,

Yesterday, I successfully managed to read Korean BBS (of Portec (spell?))
using my PC connected to Unix server via modem.

However, the response time was so slow.  Even though I don't think
I am a hot tempered person, it's out of my patience limit.

Is there any other way to read those Korean news posted over there
using E-mail or Netnews?  I don't care much of other section of that
BBS but the news about Korea.  Here in Minnesota, it takes several
days to receive the Korean newspaper (from Chicago).  And its 
subscription cost is far out of my budget.  I am very delighted that
I could manage to read those BBS news.  But it will make me
very happy like a baby who just emptied his/her milk bottle if
I can read the news a little faster.

Thank you and have a nice day.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 1993 18:42:19 -0500 
From: Woncheal Choi <wc1q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Recommendation needed
	<1993Jan6.055937.1752@worak.kaist.ac.kr>
	<UHHYUNG.93Jan6172443@buddle.kaist.ac.kr>

People in S.C.K. wrote:
  
>>>More than half of korean girls take the surgery... as far as I know.
>>You're kidding:)
>I don't believe in Jang's words either. ;-)

It would be more appropriate to say 'More than 70% of korean girls who
have folded eyelid have made it by surgery or using 'Sang-Ku-Pul Yak'.

The cost of surgery varies from 50,000 to 1000,000 Won depends on the
reputation of the surgeon. There is 'cosmetic surgery Combo' which
includes eyelids, nose, jews, breast surgery at the same time. The price
is around 10,000,000 Won (Go Beak hospital in Seoul and check the
price). One of the most sucessful case of the Combo surgery is 'Kang
Mun-Young' (i heard).


Woncheol
From: kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Looking for Korean Playboy
Date: 5 Jan 1993 02:44:08 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

In article 11499, kwak@cunixd.cc.columbia.edu (Nancy Kwak)
delivers the following sermon:

>i hope you were kidding about this posting, because if you
>weren't, you're a 
>REAL SICKO. people like you digust me. 
>i suggest you go out and get a life but before you do that, you
>might want to take a cold, a real cold shower. 

Gee, Nancy, and what if I was kidding?  Am I still a sicko?  Do
I still need a shower?  BTW, what does "digust" mean?



Nancy's impassioned speech is followed by article 11504, in
which yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi) obligingly
picks up where Nancy leaves off:

>Come on. This is silly. If you wish to make transactions with a
>person
>on pornographic material, leave it OFF of this newsgroup, OK
>KEVIN?
>
>Of course I am not one who to say what is to be on or off this
>channel,
>but it is common sense, you obviously lack it.

>You really make the Korean community look bad you know.
>Especially since
>this is one of the first I've seen you post here. It is improper
>to use
>soc.culture.korean as another erotica newsgroup as you tend to
>think of
>it as. You should apologize to the readers of this newsgroup for
>making
>them look bad.

Thank you for sharing, Mark, and congratulations on your great
sense of humor.  Have you ever met Nancy?  I think you two might
enjoy talking to each other.

Love and kisses,

K.G.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: barrera@mtu.edu (Barrera)
Subject: Re: Hyundai Hunday Hyunday  HeeeYonnDayyyy
Organization: Michigan Technological University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:55:12 GMT

phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
: In article <1iij8uINN3mi@shelley.u.washington.edu> kaygee@hardy.u.washington.edu (Kevin Giansante) writes:
: 
: Korean -| sound is one of the trickiest vowel to romanize.  We see that
: each poster came up with a variation in presenting the -| vowel.  Even
: within one posting, presentation may vary.  The reason is English (spoken
: 
: James Choi

I have seen that vowel romanized as something like small "1". actually
it looks like an "i" without the dot. Unfortunately, that was in a book
and it isn't something standard, nor can it be really typed on normal
keyboards.

Oh well...

-chris barrera        barrera@mtu.edu     gorim@irc  :-)
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: SAEK-GAL-RHON
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:47:04 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan5.210611.25221@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, shlee@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
(Seunghun Lee) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.194429.16738@news.duc.auburn.edu> kim@magneto.physics.aubu
rn.edu (Han-jung Kim) writes:
>
>Yesterday I read Chosun ilbo in the library, and saw that NK accused YS and
>>release a sympathy to DJ.
>
>
>pls be aware of that Chosun ilbo is newpaper of MINJJA when read it.
>
>
>FACT3)  The old generation sill alive think that DJ is close to NK and
>they can have a image of DJ as a dangerous person up the image the
>previouse korean government has spread out, whether it is true or not.


In a new year interview (by Jung-Ang Ilbo),  YS DENIED that DJ is
pro-communist.   YS agreed that it is the wrong idea on DJ.

What he said during the election, meant that some of the people were worried
Minju's coalition with the progressive group.


/Minho Jo/

Ny slogan, "Warm ..."  ?

Let's skip it this time.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: wgcho@cair.kaist.ac.kr (Cho Wongyu)
Subject: Re: Recommendation needed
Organization: Center for Artificial Intelligence Research, KAIST.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 05:59:37 GMT

jwjang@kaist.ac.kr (Chang Jin-woong) writes:
:
: More than half of korean girls take the surgery... as far as I know.
: 
You're kidding:)

Wongyu Cho
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon)
Subject: Re: Discipline in Korea
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 18:27:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.190824.5421@news.acns.nwu.edu>, phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
> 
> 3. Korean immigrant society is different in each country.  The one in the
> U.S. is probably the best educated and the best mannered bunch.  
>

James, James, James, I don't know what to say to this one!

I guess the reason why other countries don't welcome American folks is 
precisely this attitude of yours.

Well, if you really insist, the best educated, maybe but certainly not the best
mannered.

hank
-- 
Henry E Chon
7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca   University of Western Ontario, London, Canada   
hechon@uwovax.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: CD Prices in Korea for both classical and pop?
From: tyoon@husc8.harvard.edu (Tehshik Yoon)
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:37:23 GMT
Distribution: soc.culture.korean
Keywords: CD prices, Korea, Classical, Pop

Guest@comm.mgmt.purdue.edu (changhun park ) writes:

>Hi, K-netters:

> [list of CDs deleted]

>The above are just examples that are on the top of my head:
> Awaiting the comments of any netter that has visited Korea recently:
>   Would be glad to see the price reference by categories:
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Thanks,
>   chpark@vm.cc.purdue.edu
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  
Well, actually, I just got back, and the CDs, regardless of category,
tended to cost man won (10.000 W) in most "reputable" stores and prices
on the street were a bit lower.  One store in Itaewon (is that the
accepted roman spelling?) sold CDs for 9000 W, and there was a vendor
in the basement of Lotte who was selling a few american disks for 7000 W.

-Tehshik Yoon
tyoon@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: vincek@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Vincent Kim)
Subject: Re: The King?
Reply-To: vincek@oakhill.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:03:52 GMT

	Yes,

	Last thing I read abouthim was about 5 or 6 years ago.
	He was VP of some aircraft company.
From: cho@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Il Hyung Cho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Korean Explosion
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:47:55 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.korean
Organization: LORAL - Western Development Labs

I heard about a big explosion in Seoul (?) and I was wondering
what the full story is?  I saw part of the KBS broadcast
last night but unfortunately my Korean isn't that great.

Thanks in advance...

Il Hyung Cho
Macintosh Systems Support
LORAL - Western Development Labs
Internet:  cho@wdl1.wdl.loral.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: ywlee@cs.uiuc.edu (Youngwhan Lee)
Subject: Re: surgery on eyelid
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:49:51 GMT

In <1993Jan8.151734.15591@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
>In article <1993Jan08.051447.17990@eng.umd.edu> dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
>>	Hmm...I don't know.. if you can notice they did some work
>>	on their look, that job is a failure.

>I am turned off by successes as well.  Of course, someone has to tell me
>that it is artificial before I feel turned off.  It is something similar
>to finding someone's outrageous past record.

Man, I did not know you guys are so narrow-minded. I think we men should
sympathize what they have done. Imagine a situation like this:

You are a girl looking not so good only because your nose looks like
a chewing gum punched right in the center, otherwise you know you are a 
beauty. You know you are much smarter and more intelligent than many of 
your girl friends but you don't have boy-friends only because of the 
stupid-looking nose. No man appears to be interested in finding your 
intellectual beauty inside. You even begin to feel inferiorty on yourself 
because of the stupid-looking nose. What would you do? Have a plastic 
surgery. 

My guess is the girls who do plastic surgery are not necessarily stupid or
anything and must know artificially created nose would never look the same
as the natural one. My guess is they do it because they think it would 
be better than staying with the way it is and having all sort of complex 
psycological problems.

>>	These days, they do very nice job on those.
>>	And that can be used for many good & sound reasons w/o doubt
>>	as you mentioned (I guess you meant this, right?).
>I am not sure.  I was thinking the worst.  Using beauty to seduce a man for
>"social and economic security" is fine, and it is routinely being done.

Really? It is routinely done? I think you have seen movies too much. 
I believe only fractional number of girls will do plastic surgery to 
seduce a man for whatever security.

>And men are willing being suckered into it.  I was thinking something more
>cynical.  If a woman is willing to let her skin be cut to gain her desires,
>I was thinking she would object even less sinking knife into someone else
>for even more gain.
>Of coures this reasoning is not true. 

Of course not!

>Yes.  Go exercise, dear young ladies.  Few things are more attractive than
>your healthy looks.  It beats any make up or any surgery hands down.

Excerise to have a better-looking nose?

For a clarification, I'm not defending girls because I have a close
relatiohsip with Rebbeca (Rachael?) H. Seung. In fact, I do not
know them very well. ;-)

youngwhan.
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From: jungjk@unixg.ubc.ca (Jinki Jung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Address for a Company for Macintosh Hangul Fonts under English System.
Date: 4 Jan 1993 19:48:34 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Keywords: Hangul, Fonts, Macitosh

	Hi,

		I was told from one of my friends that I could get 
	hangul font for Maintosh running in English System (not in Korean
	Operating System).  The company name was "PARAGON" if I remember
	correctly.  The company is located LA area. 

		Do somebody knows the address, phone no., email address
	of this company ? 
	
		Is there public hangul fonts for Mac ?

	Best Regards,

	Jinki Jung (jungjk@unixg.ubc.ca)
From: babar+@pitt.edu (Jonggu Moon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Discipline in Korea
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:43:56 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <hpark.726639862@husc.harvard.edu> hpark@husc8.harvard.edu (hayn park) writes:
>Did some terrible change happen to society

Yes, they got a higher standard of living.
It won't be long before the workers in Japan and Korea demand that
they be treated like real human beings.
And once that happens. their country's competativeness will plummet down
to that of America's.
 
And the japanese and koreans will join the americans in complaining
about loosing our jobs to the next set of economic miracles.

- jon
From: junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Clarification on My Thought
Date: 13 Jan 93 05:38:55 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

tlee@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (timothy lee) writes:

>What I meant was, first, we have to acknowledge that wife beating exists
>in Korean culture and ALSO in American culture.  (Some responses against
>my article almost sounded like that Americans never beat their wives.
>Even some netter said that Koreans had to learn from Americans.  What a
>baloney!)  My next point was that although wife beating seems to be
>prevalent in Korea, in fact, that's not true.  And then, I added that, 
>contrary to our common sense and myth, domestic violonce in Korea is not a
>big social issue since wife beating in Korea is rare and less violent;

I totally disagree with you on that wife beating in Korea is rare and
less violent. Perhaps someone can provide better statistics but if I
remember right, many friends of mine suffered from domestic violence
(started as an argument between parents ends up a husband beating up
his wife) as we grew up together. 

>on the other hand, domestic violence in America is a serious social 
>disease and have grim characters.  That was the point.  Some of you,

Since I don't have statistics from both, I can't say which is worse or
not. But I'd like to point out that wife beating problem in U.S. is at
least talked about among people unlike in Korea. In Korea, no one
talks about it because they know it's shameful to both of them(it also
includes child abuse). To make it short, Korea is just a male dominant
society. They are superior over women in the society. Many of them
think that they can beat their wives if neccessary. Wife beating
problem is very rarely talked about among people and there isn't any
proper channel to get a help. It's really bad.

About what you said about beating a wife physically and torturing her
mentally, beating a wife is totally different from torturing her
mentally in a way that she can defend herself by doing the same thing
to her husband if we assume their financial and social status is equal
unlike in Korea). But she can't defend herself against physical abuse
like beating alone due to physical difference. 

><This article is copyrighted by Timothy Lee (tlee@ucs.indiana.edu).
>No part of this article may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval
>system, or transmitted, in any form or by any means, electronic,
>mechanical, photocopying, recording, or otherwise, without the
>prior written permission of the author.  Any violation of the
>above rule will be taken into a legal action.>

Jung