From: memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re Muhajirs/SINDh
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:29:37 GMT
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Organization: UB

From: tnb99@isuvax.iastate.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: MUHAJIRS/SIND

>I have been reading the articles posted by my Mohajir as well as some 
>es I find that this subject is almost always dealt with emotions and the 
>arguments are some kind of an attack from one group to another. What I am
>trying to do today is giving some facts and completely neutral statements.

So you promise not to get emotional? Lets see .....

     
       >2.  Unfotunately before partition the provincial boundries of 
   >Punjab, Sind, Baluchistan, NWFP had been there for such a long period
   >of time that although these were formed completely ADMINISTRATIVE grounds
   >they had taken the shape of some kind of cultural lines.

When you say 'long period of time' do we mean 100 years or more. The reason
I say this is because inter-provincial boundaries were changing all the 
time. For example the Sindh of 1947 is not the same as the one in 1847.

       >3.  The Muslims all over India had taken part in the freedom movement
   >and none of the so called Punjabis, Pathans, Baluchis, Sindhis, Mohajirs
   >had opposed it. Almost all those who opposed the TWO NATION THEORY opted to     remain in India.

Again there were Muslims who stayed in Pakistan despite their opposition
to the Two nation theory because they belonged to the land that became 
the new Pakistan. :)


       >12. If the people in sindh carry on voting on ethnic grounds there
   >IS NO CHANCE OF MOHAJIRS FORMING THE PROVINCIAL GOVERNMENt.

I beg to differ. If people in Sindh had voted on PURELY ethnic grounds
then nationalists would be a majority in the Sindh Assembly.
They voted for a national
party that carried votes in all the provinces. Who voted on ethnic lines
should be redefined I guess :)

       13. The present perks that the MQM is enjoying are not due to their
       14. MQM should realize the above mentioned fact and try to mend fences
  >because with 28/100 members in the assembly you do not expect the motions and laws to go your way.

Forget motions and laws for a minute. If the reconciliation between IJI-PPP
AND MQM-nationalists does not take place, you are going to have a law and
order situation that could lead to a disaster and you don't want me to name
the disaster.


  >     15. The starting point of MQM was due to the feeling among Mohajirs
  >that sindhs with less % age marks were admitted ( the quota sys). This is a
  >argument with no logic as a STUDENT IN KHOSKI CERTAINLY CANNOT HAVE the 
  >same facilities as a student in Karachi. Thus the people of the interior
  >definitely deserve some sympathetic cosideration. THIS QUOTA SYSTEM 
  >WHICH is critcized by every mohajir is still applicable on the same basis
  >in PUNJAB'S EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS AND NO PUNJABI HAS EVER SPOKEN AGAINST
  >it.

      >16.  THESE FEELINGS OF HATRED  among the sindh population are provoking
  >similar feelings among the Punjab population which is 65% of Pakistan 
  >against the people of other provinces and though punjab has not yet given
  >an overwhelming decision that can be called racist HOWEVER MANY POLITICAL
  >ANALYSTS BELIEVE THAT MIAN NAWAZ SHARIF CAME TO POWER AS A RESULT OF THE FEELING IN PUNJAB THAT IN THE 40 YEARS OF history there has never been a punjabi
  >prime minister.

      >17.  If GOD FORBID, some day punjabis start thinking as their mohajir and sindhi brothers do they will not only be able to form their govt in center
   >but also will be in a position to pass every law they want and thus creating  chaos and disintegration of the country.

   >   18.  THOSE PEOPLE ( AND PERSONALLY I FEEL THEY ARE OUT OF THEIR
   >MINDS AND MUST HAVE THE WEAKEST FAITH IN RELIGION ) WHO ARGUE THAT 
   >WE SHOULD accept what they say is the fact that the religion is unable to
   >hold us together and we should think about keeping pakistan together
   >alongwith these ethnic identities, have just no idea what Islam is
>   about and should think that

                  >
>OUR HOLY PROPHET (pbuh) ELIMINATED ETHNICITY AMONG MUSLIMS
                  >AND ISLAM DOES NOT ALLOW SUCH DIVISIONS

                  >THE PRESENT SITUATION IS DUE TO OUR WEAK FAITH IN ISLAM
                  >AND THE CURE IS STRONGER FAITH IN THE RELIGION AND NOT 
                  >FUTHER PERTING AWAY.

                  >OUR FORE FATHERS PAID UN IMAGINEABLE PRICE FOR THIS 
                  >HOME LAND AND IF NOTHING ELSE LET US FORGET THIS HATRED
                  >AS A SHOW OF RESPECT TOWARDS THEIR SOULS.


     >At last I would like to state that I realize that many of my friends
     >would not agree as whole or in part and am also ready for the fire
     >that this article would draw. [ Frankly I don't care].

     >ADNAN ALI


No I think you were doing a fine job till you got carried away and could
not separate the facts as you wanted to call them and your opinions which
came in uppercase making the article more shocking to read than it was meant
to be. I had a lot to say to you, no not a flame. Mostly just opinions
but as you made it clear that you 'don't care' then I guess I should get 
back to work and save both of us, valuable time. Meanwhile I could think of
other Kafis or may be try to make sense of the negative comments that Floyd
fans are spewing out at each other. 


rab rakha


Naveed
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