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From: turowski@sophia.smith.edu (Petra Turowski)
Subject: Bio of Petra and Horsecrossing signs
Organization: Smith College
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 04:59:06 GMT

I really wasn't going to post because of how much money each
posting costs, but I'm too egocentric to resist any longer!

First, everyone who has a horse boarded at a barn near a major
road should get the town to post HORSECROSSING signs.  They are
effective in slowing cars down when there is actually a horse 
around, and they are attractive and good advertisement, too.

Now:  I was born in Germany and rode there 'till I was 12, then
I rode in Greece until age 17, and have been riding in California
and Massachusetts since, being 29 years old.  It has always been
dressage for me, with bits of bareback riding, Western, and 
driving thrown in.  I've been riding school horses, leasing,
and training other people's horses, and I've worked at many
riding vacation places in summers in Europe and in the US.

I am finally an assistant professor in chemistry at Smith 
College in the middle of Massachusetts, and I've been able to
save up for my own superhorse, Lester.  Lester is a 16.2
chestnut Hannoveraner who'll be 4 in May, and who'll be doing
FEI level dressage when he grows up, if I don't ruin him on
the way.  No doubt he could also excel in show jumping or
eventing, like his mother's sire and sire, respectively.
I've had him and he's been under saddle for 7 months.
 
It's really nice to have this net and to get to know all you
people.  I do wish there were more posts from "Europe and
the World", however.

Tschuess,  Petra and Lester
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From: alan_c@cix.compulink.co.uk (Alan Chapman)
Subject: Re: mailing list/digest request for a friend
Cc: alan_c@cix.compulink.co.uk
Reply-To: alan_c@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:35:00 +0000

             clever@sequent.com (Cathy Cleverley)

> >The mailing list that Graham mentioned (EQUINE-L) is NOT an echo of
> >rec.equestrian.
> 
> What is it?
> --
Basically it is like rec.equestrian only conducted via mail.

Once subscribed you send your posts to the host machine, which then
distributes them to all the list members.

Much the same things are talked about as on here.

If you want to subscribe send a message to listserv@psuvm.psu.edu
with

SUBSCRIBE EQUINE-L your name

As the first line in the body of the message.

Alan.

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From: meridiem@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jill Engel)
Subject: Re: Reader Bio's
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:03:36 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

These bio's have been fun, so I thought I would join the herd of posters.
I am glad to read that there are quite a few people who didn't get to 
truly indulge in their horse habit until they were 20, 30, 40+...  I'm
still envious of all of y'all who had access to horses when young!  Ah well..
about me...

My name in Jill Engel, I'm 26, and working on my Masters in Mechanical/
Environmental Engineering.  I hope to be done this summer and to find a "real"
job again.  I have made the decision to buy my first horse as soon as I am
settled in a new job and location and can hardly hold still in anticipation.
This decision was made after I leased a Morgan mare this past summer.  Triscuit
is 14 and had not been ridden a lot recently, but we had a grand time trail
riding, practicing basic things like turn on the forehand, relaxing, bareback
riding a bit, and all those things one can do when leasing.  Before that I
have taken years of lessons (used as an opportunity to ride, as well as learn).
I probably learned the most when I worked at Pleasant Hill Farm near Austin
in exchange for lessons and riding.  I was 21 and had finally gotten a car
at college.  I called every stable in the area until I found Pleasant Hill,
where they let me feed, clean stalls, do turn-outs, etc. so I could ride. 
Boy, I did not know how good I had it those two years!

Now, I am learning jumping (again, I did it for a year when I lived in Los
Angeles between undergrad and grad school) on a fat white horse named Purty.
We're having fun.  I also still ride at Moondrift Morgans (where Triscuit is).
School keeps me from leasing (money and time) though I still ride twice a
week.  I seem to ride Moondrift's "trouble" horses (such as Mayday, who has
taken to bolting when asked for a canter. Great name, eh?).  I don't know
if I am really qualified to be doing this (even supervised) but it teaches
me training techniques and the difference between fear and resistance.  I
miss Triscuit very much, though I say hello to her and ride her in lessons
on occasion.

Other than that, I was a horse crazy kid, and was in weepy tears when sorting
my Breyers at my parents home this past Christmas.  I had wanted a horse so
badly and was reminded of that when looking at the tiny tack I had made, the
barn I designed, the poems I had written.  My parents threaten to buy me
a horse for graduation since I once mentioned it was my only childhood
disappointment.  However, they want to tie it to the tree in front of my
duplex and leave the rest to me!  I can't say I'd complain too much...  (8


								Jill


*  Jill Engel (Anne Meridiem)  * "If the world were a logical place, *
* meridiem@lamar.colostate.edu *  men would ride side-saddle."       *
*                              *                    --Rita Mae Brown * 
Xref: sparky rec.equestrian:7042 va.general:184
From: dabay@morse.cns.vt.edu (Marian Dabay)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian,vt.forsale,va.general
Subject: Looking for good home!!
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:45:16 GMT
Followup-To: rec.equestrian
Distribution: usa
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA

I am looking for a good home.  I'm a 20-something, beautiful
bay pony, about medium size, sorry - I don't know how tall I
am.  I've had a hard life and am not always as good as
I should be, but I love being around others (horses and humans).
With a little patience and love, I would be a very nice guy.
Unfortunately, my family has recently moved, and no longer have 
room for me, :-( , so I'm at a boarding stable right now which my 
family really can't afford!!  If you would like to have a little 
extra company please call my mom at (703) 231-7973 (daytime) or 
(703) 674-4161 (evening).  I live in Southwest Virginia (Blacksburg) 
area, and Mom says since I'm priceless, she'll give me away free to a 
REALLY GOOD home!!!!

Posted by Marian Dabay (dabay@morse.cns.vt.edu)
for Budweiser (Buddy@expensive.stable.equ)
  
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From: mary@cairo.watson.ibm.com (Mary McHugh)
Subject: Re: Dateline NBC
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:51:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: mary@cairo.watson.ibm.com (Mary McHugh)
Organization: IBM TJ Watson Home for Tired Hackers

In article <1993Jan26.164008.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz>,
corich_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
|> \In article <1993Jan22.150043.17684@piston.detroit.ingr.com>,
plferric@piston.detroit.ingr.com (Pat Ferrick) writes:
|> > 
|> > They mentioned Charisma by name as a famous horse that had been killed for
|> > insurance money, and I was wondering if this is THE Charisma? Would
anybody
|> > out there know?
|> > 
|> > Thanks,
|> > 
|> > Pat & Golden Ghost
|> 
|>  Charisma, the New Zealand horse which with Mark Todd won the gold in the
|> Olympic 3 day event two times successively was retired onto his owners New
|> Zealand farm after the 1988 games. 
|> 
|> He was given a heroes welcome home an toured the country for a little while
|> before being deservedly retired . 
|> 
|> As far as we hear here in NZ he runs round the paddocks gettting
petted and fed
|> by all his visotrs and fans.
|> 
|> If anything happened to him there would be a national outcry here.
|> 
|> Regards
|> 
|> Alison Corich, Wellington, New Zealand
|> 

I was puzzled by the first inquiry and thought, "Of course it is the
same Charisma".  But then I saw Alison's post and realized that there
was another famous Charisma.  The Charisma referred to in the story was 
"THE" Charisma famous in the hunter/jumper world.  He was a national
champion hunter shown by George Lindemann.   Funny how a single sentence
means two completely different things to two people depending upon their
individual experiences/knowledge.

Mary McHugh
From: teresa@astro.as.arizona.edu (Teresa Bippert-Plymate)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Hage Address
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:15:46 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

Hi All-

   Here's the address off the ChaffHage bag like I promised:

	The Great Texas Hage Co.
	PO Box 174 
	Dell City, Texas  79837

Still no word back from my distributor, I'll have to leave him another
message!  Hope this is REALLY the right address now....

				Teresa
				Leo the QH
				Ari the Andalusian (or Lusitano,actually)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: claudia@moko.saar.de (Claudia Pape)
Subject: Reader bios
Organization: Micha's private Linux, Saarbruecken, Germany
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:15:04 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Now my reader bios, my name is Claudia Pape, I'm 25. I live in Saarbruecken
south-west of Germany directly on the french border. Saarbruecken is
120 miles west of Frankfurt. I'm study computer science in the University
of Saarbruecken and hope to finish my study end of this years.
I started to love horses, when I was 8 years old by reading 'Karl May' and
his books of the 'wild wild west' and Arabia. Two years later my parents
gived up and I learned riding in a dressage riding stable, where I spend
my whole time for the next years. I learned riding dressage and jumping
and when I was 17 I stopped to take lessons there because my two
favorite horses was killed (leg problems). Two years later I saw my first
western Horse and from there I was fascinated about horses which make
difficult lessons with long reins and so on. Tree years ago I buyed Lucky
when he was 4 years and teached him and me riding in western style.
I like long riding and we have maked two long vacances rides.
I'm using my friends account. He is studing computer science, too.
That way thank you Micha. But he doesn't like riding. He likes horses
and dogs, but believe that horses have a better life without riders.
But he enjoys to give Lucky sometimes an apple or something else.

I believe the reader bios are a very good idea.

Bye and nice rides

Claudia and Lucky
From: jsnyder@cadev5.intel.com (Jan Snyder )
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: Reader's Bios Database
Keywords: Bios, Database
Date: 28 Jan 93 19:33:44 GMT
Organization: Intel Santa Clara Design Technology

Hi John,

I've no objection to my info being in there, although I probably
won't use your database.  I've saved everything that's shown up at 
my site, and my horse.posters mailfolder now has 123 messages in 
it (counting Brandy's original that started this thread).  
I don't _think_ any are duplicates. 

Gosh, this is fun!

-Sallijan
 and critters

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Santa Clara, California            | (408) 765-5444 voicemail    (408) 629-5909 home robot
Internet: jsnyder@scdt.intel.com   |          =>Internet Z-Car Club Member #42<=
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From: jlevine@apollo.HP.COM (Jennifer E. Levine)
Subject: Re: Reader Bio's
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:57:31 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

Hi All,

My name is Jennifer Levine and I am a software geek um ah engineer for 
Hewlett-Packard he in Chelmsford, Ma. I just graduated from Cornell last spring.

I have been riding on and off since I was about 6 but I have never owned my own
horse. (Someday)

I ride western and english and I love jumping. I have done some very small
shows and would like to do more. 

I love reading this forum and hearing all of the stories about peoples horses.

Keep up the good work folks...

--Jennifer
(Presently horseless but I do have a fiance to take care of :)
From: drkerns@sony7.sdrc.com (sean kerns)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Re: pinto vs. paint
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:42:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SDRC

In article <1jklmkINNp3n@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, pallas@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Sarah Pallas) writes:
|> In article <1jk6otINNeqb@nigel.msen.com> dan@msen.com (Dan and Karen Sugalski) writes:
|> >
|> >A paint is a stock type horse, whose bloodlines are restricted to paint,
|> >QH and TB.  A pinto is any horse of that coloring...
|> 
|> I always thought that a pinto had round edges on its spots and a paint
|> had rough edges.  Anybody ever heard this explanation, because now I'm
|> wondering where I picked it up.  I don't rremember the difference
|> between Overo and Tobiano.
|> 
|> Sarah Pallas


Okay, I'm not a Paint or Pinto owner, but... a Paint is a horse (not pony)
registered with the APHA, ans yes, usually these horses must be the progeny of
other registered Paint horses and/or an APHA approved mix.

Pinto is a generic term for any colored horse or pony.

Now, some color guides:

Overo: Refers to a horse which is predominantly the darker of the two colors on
the horse (e.g. brown ,with white spots).

Tobiano: Refers to a horse which is predominantly the lighter color (e.g., a
mostly white/grey horse with dark spots0.

Piebald: Means that the darker color is black.

Skewbald: Means that the darker color is brown.

Example: A White horse with brown spots would be referred to as a skewbald
tobiano.

Kind of twisted terminology.

Be careful what you call a Paint or Pinto... Most Paint owners get very offended
if you call their horse a "pinto"....




SRK
From: dan@msen.com (Dan and Karen Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
Subject: Racoons & dogs :-(
Date: 23 Jan 1993 14:56:27 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

[ Article crossposted from rec.pets.dogs ]
[ Author was Ruth Ginzberg ]
[ Posted on 20 Jan 93 15:39:46 EDT ]

This morning's paper carried a real downer of a story about a raccoon & a dog:
(in Cromwell, CT)

In the town just up the river from where I live, a Siberian Husky had an
encounter with a raccoon.  The dog had asked 'Out' and had been let out to 'Go'
at 8pm. He noticed the raccoon in the corner of his own yard, & went to check
out the situation. Dog tried to chase raccoon off property. <Now, how many of
us have dogs who would do EXACTLY the same thing under the same circumstances,
huh?> Fight ensued. Raccoon bit dog.  Neighbor shot raccoon.  Sent raccoon to
state lab & it tested out positive for rabies.  So now the Husky had to have a
booster rabies shot (even though his shots WERE up-to-date) and he has to be
quarantined for 90 days in order to watch him for any signs that he might be
developing rabies.  Of course if he develops any signs of rabies he will have
to be killed.

The animal control officer said that this was the 6th raccoon found to be
infected with rabies in Cromwell since June, and of those, it is the second to
have had contact with a dog.  The (CT) state health department said Tuesday
that 787 cases of rabies were detected in animals, primarily raccoons in 1992
in the state of Connecticut.  (50 mi wide x 100 mi long; about the size of the
L.A. basin)

Whatta drag!  (Reason # 2 million for not just "letting the dog out" to
heed nature's call, without having him in an enclosed space or on a leash.)


------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
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From: ZEINEJOHNSONDS%DFYC@pcmail.usafa.af.mil (Satin Zeine-Johnson)
Subject: Re: My horse could use some toys
Organization: United States Air Force Academy
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:19:33 GMT

In article <C1386I.1Dp@theus.rain.com> bub@theus.rain.com (Barbara Theus) writes:


>Andy (the Walker) seems to like to put his mouth on everything.  He's
>very gentle, but he mouths everything.  He tried to remove my neigbors

He sounds fun!  I love horses with a sense of humor <G>.


>The vet says his diet is good and he isn't lacking in any minerals, etc.
>He's just a bored kid.  He suggests I get him some toys.
>My question - what toys do you recommend and where do I get them?  My
>budget prefers free or very cheap.

Here are some things that have worked for me in the past - most of which are 
easy and VERY cheap! I've always found that to be an advantage.

	1.  Take a 1 gallon milk just, put about half a dozen rounded 
pebbels in it (sharp edged ones will punch through eventually, so get 
rounded ones), then screw the lid on REALLY tight!  If you want to make sure 
the lid doesn't come off, drip some melted candle wax on it just before you 
close it - helps keep it there.  Horses love this one, because they can TOSS 
it and it makes GREAT noises!  I've always thought of it as a giant baby 
rattle <laughing>

	2.  Go to a junk yard or one of those places out in the sticks that 
has tons of tires sitting around and get some inner tubes from 18 wheelers 
or big trucks.  Inflate them about 50% and throw them out in the pasture.  
My gelding LOVES to stand on them (on one side) and try to drag them around 
with him.  They are too big to toss, but he tries!

	3.  The ever faithful giant apple.  Most tack catalogs and stores 
have them - they are high-impact plastic, red, and smell faintly of apple.  
They are huge (compared with a real apple) - about the size of a bucket.  
They are great "toss" toys, but they have an unfortunate tendency to vanish 
in a pasture, which gets very expensive, very quickly.

Hope this helps!  Have a great time.

Satin and Bara Ari-el (Ari)
Gandalf, D'Artagnan and Bigfoot


>I don't want to get anything that can end up injuring anyone, or that
>would be a problem if he or the mares end up eating it.  Remember, this
>is NOT in a stall, but in a 5 acre pasture.

>-Barbara
Newsgroups: rec.equestrian
From: amerritt@dante.nmsu.edu (Angela Merritt)
Subject: Another Bio.
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:44:29 GMT

I've enjoyed reading about all of you so much I finally got up the
nerve to write mine! Ok here it goes....

My name is Angie Merritt.  I'm married with no kids, but I have a
housefull of pets (my husband calls 'our zoo'), and one horse who
lives at a boarding stable near our home.  I was another horse
crazy kid who collected every kind of plastic horse and read every
horse book I could find.  I started riding at the local
rental stable and graduated to lessons (western), when I was about
12.  After asking my instructor when we were going to learn how
to jump (thinking naturally that must be next after walk, trot, and
canter), she sent me off to the local 'english' stable.  I was
very lucky at this point since the local 'english' stable just
happened to belong to a man by the name of Lowell Boomer.  Lowell
was one of the founding members of USDF and was doing dressage
long before most people ever knew what it was.  I did learn to
jump, but soon found my heart was in dressage.  I eventually
progressed through 3 horses and was showing 2nd level before I
went off to college.  My one claim to fame was that I had won
the Nebraska Dressage Horse of the Year award (1979 I think),
and was runner up the year before.  I gave it all up while
going to school, then I got married, got a job.........
Finally last year I started taking lessons again and I was
hooked.  I bought my horse Sultan last spring and I've been
enjoying every minute since.  I'm never going to give up this
hobby again!  One nice thing about dressage is there is
lots of older role models out there.  Sultan is a green ex-race
horse who I hope to show training level this year (that may be
pushing it :-) ), and maybe some eventing.  I am totally 
convinced that I was a much better rider as a child.  My muscles
and brain have a life of their own now and operate independently
of one another but I am working on this.
Right now I'm working as a programmer/analyst for the Physical
Science Lab in Las Cruces, New Mexico.  And like some of you
have mentioned work can get in the way of keeping up with 
the net :-).  I've posted a few times, and answered a few
through the mail, but I read most everything.  This group
has been great! I've really received alot of good advice
and information.  Thanks so much all of you!

Next!.......
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From: raph@panache.demon.co.uk (Raphael Mankin)
Subject: Re: Leasing a Horse & Insurance 
Distribution: world
Organization: Solvfield Ltd.
Reply-To: raph@panache.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:57:35 +0000

In article <2500@gandalf.intel.com> linda@linda.intel.com writes:

>
>Is it normal when you lease out a horse to require the lessee to carry 
>insurance on the horse?  My girlfriend is planning on leasing her horse
>and wants the lessee to carry insurance in case something awful happens
>and the horse has to be put down, she could get reimbursed and would be able
>to buy another horse.  We are told insurance on horse is tremendously
>expensive.  Is this true.  Does anyone have experience with insuring
>horses.  We are talking about a horse worth $2500-$3000.  Are there any
>insurance companies out that specialize in horse insurance?  Who are they.
>
In Britain it is quite normal for even quite low-priced horses to be insured.
The cover generally ahs options for partial or total loss of use; vet's fees
etc. If you can't get a US company to cover your horse, seee whether a British
company is prepared to give you cover. Look in the magazines for ads, or ask
an insurance broker - assuming you have such creatures on your side of the 
water.

-- 
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Raphael Mankin			Nil taurus excretum
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From: jmares@data.acs.calpoly.edu (John E. Mares)
Subject: Reader's Bios Database
Keywords: Bios, Database
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:53:54 GMT


   Hi all,

   I wanted to run this by all of you before I made it available to the world  
at large.  After compiling 200k of bios and sending them to Graham Jenkins' FTP  
site, I made a small database of all the submitters so far.

   If there is enough interest, I could output the raw data to a plain text  
file with the fields separated by <tabs> and the records separated by <cr>.   
The fields I have included are: Real Name; E-Mail Address; Organization; and  
Reply-To.

   I am currently running the database under FileMaker Pro for the Macintosh.   
I would be willing to make the full database available if there is enough  
interest.  There is also a version of FileMaker Pro for IBMs and compatibles.

   Currently the database has about ninety people in it, and it is only ~15k.

   Please post your responses or e-mail me directly and I will talk with Graham  
about making it available to everyone.  If there isn't enough response, I can  
still e-mail a copy of the file (or database) to people who would like a copy.

   Bye for now.  (I suppose I should start writing *my own* bio.)
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