HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell)
Subject: Re: BTAS : Grey Ghost (The voice?)
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: rec.arts.animation
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:48:06 GMT

In article <BxAw6r.J6E@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> mwdenney@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Michael W. Denney) writes:
>In article <Bx8H08.IAx@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell) writes:
>>
>>If it is, I'd be VERY surprized. In an interview I saw, Adam West said
>>he wouldn't even WATCH the Batman movie!!!
>>
>
>Adam West was the voice actor for Batman in many of the earlier cartoons
>(Superfriends et al.) and Burt Ward (Robin from the show) has also done
>the voice for animated Robins.
>
>I don't know the exact interview you are talking about, but if it is anything
>like the one's I saw I think he was being sarcastic.  When I saw him he acted
>like he was going to cry and went on and on about how he wasn't asked to be
>in the movie.  Although he may have liked to be in the movie, I got the
>impression he was just kidding around about being SO upset.  Unfortunately
>shows like "Current Affair" made his comments seem serious to have a more
>interesting story ("Next: TV's Batman - His Dejection and Depression")
>
This was on Entertainment Tonight when all the publicity was started
about the Batman movie. He had very short quick answers. He stated that 
he was upset because he wasn't contacted at all. (Why would he?) The
last comment he made before they went on to their other stuff was that
he wouldn't go see the movie when it came out.

Flip

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From: Dino.Ciccone@launchpad.unc.edu (Dino Ciccone)
Subject: Aladdin
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:55:22 GMT


Does anyone know the exact date for the The disney movie it is usually around
the thanksgiving holiday.  I saw a preview on the Beaty and the Beast
video looks like another big hit.  

I posted this some time ago but does anyone remeber.  The list of 
Super Friends that was around the time they had the indian apache chief
well there was a samuai guy or something like that does anyone rember his
name.  


Dino
email ciccone@egr.uri.edu

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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: Battle of the Planets
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:33:08 GMT

In article <0eynR2O00VopAXpUcp@andrew.cmu.edu> "Kevin J. Chen" <kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Michael Denney writes:
>
>>The characters were:
>>   Mark Venture: no. 1, he flew the airplane which was in the tail
>> of the ship
>
>Um -- close.  Mark was just "Mark" (as far I can tell, none of the
>G-Force members had surnames).  Mark Venture was actually the pilot of
>the spaceship Yamato/Argo from Star Blazers (which was a much better
>series than BOTP, IMO).
>
>Kevin.

In the american versions, yes. But it is impossible to tell which is 
actually better from the hacks people like Sandy Frank and Ted Turner
try to foist upon us. I like them both!
Pax
					--Judex--

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From: lutz@shredder.raleigh.ibm.com (Dave Lutz)
Subject: Anyone have any Batman-TAS gifs?
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 19:13:00 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14l by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: dave_lutz@vnet.ibm.com (Dave Lutz)
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

  The subject line says it all.  This is one of the best offerings on TV today 
and I'd *really* like to use a Batman GIF as my desktop background.  Right now, 
the best I've come up with is a Batduck gif starring Plucky Duck as Batduck and
Hamton as the Pig Hostage.  But I'd really love a few Batman gifs such as the 
opening scene with Batman standing on top of a building looking over Gotham, one
of the Batmobile zooming down one of Gotham's streets, a close-up of Batman 
standing with his cape pulled close around him (you can barely see the Bat 
symbol on his chest), etc.

  Holding my breath,

---
Dave Lutz 

"Nice job with the sprinkler!" - Darkwing Duck
"Nice job with the, uh, getting your gun melted." - Megavolt
From: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: BTAS:  Beware The Gray Ghost!
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:44:19 GMT
Reply-To: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu

Oh, there's bound to be a *SPOILER* or two, so you can hit "n" now...










You've had your warning...








Too late!

Well, let me just say I was IMPRESSED.  There hasn't been an episode yet
that I've actively DISliked, but this episode ranks among my favorites.

IMO, the best Batman episodes center around someone BESIDES the Dark Knight.
Look at Heart of Ice, Perchance to Dream (Bruce Wayne, NOT Batman), and
Two Face; the emphasis was on a supporting character or villan, and the 
story came out fantastic.
	Well, here the story centers about an old actor, struggling to pay
the bills and get on with life.  This man served as the template for Batman,
which the studio goes out of its way to make the casual observer see.  Those
flashback scenes, while kinda corny, were still a good trick.
	My one problem: wasn't the "ohmygodthere'sabombintheRCcar!" plotline
originally in a Dirty Harry movie?  Well, the answer is "Yes."

And, of course, the Mad Bomber will be sent off to Arkham, where, no doubt,
he'll take advantage of those BIG GAPING HOLES IN THE WALLS that all the
other major villans use to escape ever three episodes.  Or perhaps the 
HUGE UNDERGROUND TUNNEL leading into the Gotham water purification plant.

Anyway, I just wouldn't mind seeing Adam West make another return sometime;
he did a marvellous job once, and I'm sure he can do so again.


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                  Defeat the Black Knight!"
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From: andygc@owlnet.rice.edu (Andrew Gregory Campbell)
Subject: Re: Thunderbirds from the late 60's
Keywords: thunderbirds marionettes 60's
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 05:32:35 GMT

	I remember the show from early Saturday mornings but I don't know much
about it.  However, a recent Dire Straits video features the marionettes.  I 
couldn't remember what the show was called, but now I know.

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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: Re: BTAS: How DID Batman get that coin???
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:51:50 GMT

In <1992Nov12.181827.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu> walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:

>In article <abick.721600912@cunews>, abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
>> 
>> 	Everyone seems to be knocking Batman for not being "resourceful"
>> enough to beat his villians. Needing Joker's weenie fork is a good
>> example, plus the fact that he didn't save himself, Catwoman did! I'll
>> admit that this shouldn't be, but there have been some IMPOSSIBLE stuff
>> going around too. The one that really sticks out in my book is...
>> 
>> 	THE DAMNED COIN!!!
>> 
>> 	How the hell did Batman get Two-Face's coin in Almost Got'm? I
>> mean he was "pinned" down (arms AND legs) to the big coin so it's not like he
>> could grab it from Two-Face? The only way I see him getting it is if
>> Two-Face flipped it up and it land RIGHT IN Batman's hand. And that is not
>> very likely.
>> 	Two-Face has been flippin that coin god knows how long so I think
>> he must be good at it. Even if he isn't he should at least know when he
>> misses right? So how did it get in Batman's hand?
>> 	I welcome even the most LUDICROUS of suggestions... such as Harvey
>> Dent took over Two-Face (for a second) and gave the coin to Batman. Big
>> Bad Harve then took over and realized that he didn't have his precious
>> coin.
>> 	Come on, I'm sure some of you out there must have similar
>> suggestions.
>> 
>> Alan Bick
>> 
>> One last thing, how come Two-Face's coin is scratched on the end. I don't
>> think it was originally. Even if it was, didn't Batman throw the coin into
>> a fountain? Harvey couldn't tell it apart before, how could he find it in
>> the fountain later. He didn't even know Batman threw it in the fountain!

>I don't mind the question, just the fact that three or four other people have
>responded to your post...and they didn't know either.  Come ON, people,
>let's see some snap out there.

>The answer is obvious.  Before he was strapped to the coin, Batman was being
>held in front of Two-Face by those bodybuilding twins.  Just a bit before
>the commercial, he breaks away from them for a second and grabs Harvey before
>the twins get ahold of him again.  In those few seconds, he lifted the coin.

>Simple, huh?
>I'll let it go this time...
>Joe Walker
>walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu

Are you being serious here? Is that really how he got it? (I which I had
it STILL on tape!) I do remember Batman breaking out and actually reaching
Two-Face. I think he EVEN did get to his suit (which is where Two-Face
later checked for his coin) but I can't believe that Batman was thinking
of stealing the coin. Are you serious, or is this just your "ludicrous"
solution because it isn't that "far-fetched".

Can anyone confirm this solution? I think we have a WINNER!

Alan Bick

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From: ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.)
Subject: Re: BTAS: Almost Got 'Im
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:24:06 GMT

dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

>that was supposed to kill the hero fails to kill the villain when it backfires.
>Those thugs should have been paste.  I did like the origin of the Giant 
Yer kidding - those guys were actually alive after that?  *blink*

I'm really starting to get sick of Batman getting gassed.  It seems like
every time the villian gets batman where he wants him, it's cuz he gassed
batman.

Also, batman tends to have these 'cure all poison/gas' pills/guns.  odd.


			- Frank
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:12:30 -0500 
From: "Kevin J. Chen" <kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: BTAS: I am the Night
	<1992Nov10.143722.19064@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

Dave Van Domelen writes:

>I was *very* impressed by the writing in this episode.  For example, they 
>didn't just toss in Santyana's quote about "Those who are ignorant of history 
>are doomed to repeat it" but also a more obscure but very appropriate quote 
>about how a fanatic is one who "redoubles his efforts while losing sight of his
>goal."  And of course, the classic "Abyss looks into you" quote.  And unlike 
>one might expect of a TV show, the quotes weren't gratuitous.  They were in 
>character and really fit the situation.

Cooler and cooler still.  This looks like the beginning of a promising
week.  Bruce's introspection and his initial unwillingness to accept
his own limits was a beautiful characterization.  I'm really hoping
that we may see more of this in a later episode (readers of Legends of
the Dark Knight may recognize this from the Venom storyline).

>     ROBIN NEEDS TO GET NEW CLOTHES!  He's been in four episodes now and still 
>hasn't shown more than one suit of civvies.

Sigh.  We *did* get to see him in a karate outfit once, tho.  I'm also
glad that Bats came to his senses before Robin took off on his own.
The "Robin gets in trouble and Batman changes his mind at the last
second and rescues him" line would have ruined a good episode.

>     I think Babs was doing the 'smart' thing when faced by Jazzman.  After 
>all, she was unarmed and had nothing to throw, and "all the martial arts in the
>world won't stop a .45 caliber bullet" (Mongoose's entry, _Enemies_ by Hero 
>Games).  Better to become a human shield...she can take a bullet better than 
>Jim.  In fact, I was wondering if she'd have to bite the bullet and would end 
>up in a wheelchair as a result....

Ya know, I was wondering if that was going to come up, too.  Somehow,
though, I think Barbara's incapacitation would not work as well for
the TV series as it would for the comic books, since Oracle's power
derives from the complex computer networks, and the government's (and
everyone else's) reliance upon it, and we don't really see much of
this in TAS.  The writers did some more good foreshadowing here by
subtly hinting at Barbara's desire to do more -- on par, IMO, with the
glimpses of Harvey Dent casually flipping a coin.

BTW, anyone notice that the voice of Barbara Gordon was Melissa
Gilbert? :)

Lotsa villains today.  Whee!  (Hey, where's the Riddler, darn it?)

Kevin.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: BTAS: Characters' Clothes (was I am the Night)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:10:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.143722.19064@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:

>     ROBIN NEEDS TO GET NEW CLOTHES!  He's been in four episodes now and still 
>hasn't shown more than one suit of civvies.

Well, I think he's following in the footsteps of his old guardian.
Bruce has worn the same brown suit in any episode in which he has worn
a suit (except for the first Catwoman episode, in which he wore a
tuxedo).  I believe there is a scene in one of the episodes in which
it is shown he has *nothing but* brown suits!  Come on, the man is a
billionaire playboy!  Also, wouldn't it be more fitting for the Batman
to wear black (or dark blue) suits when he is playing Bruce Wayne?

-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Battle of the Planets
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:11:04 GMT

You're all wrong.  It wasn't Cheops, it was Jinpei.  Plbts all 'round.
     Dave Van Domelen, and Ryu is pronounced 'roo'....}->
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From: adamsd@crash.cts.com (Adams Douglas)
Subject: Re: Thunderbirds from the late 60's
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:44:12 GMT
Keywords: thunderbirds marionettes 60's

In <hartig.721084178@eagle.fsl.noaa.gov> hartig@eagle.fsl.noaa.gov (Kevin Hartig) writes:
>Does anybody remember anything about the Thunderbirds. It was 
>an animation of models and marionettes. The TV show aired sometime
>during the late 60's. 

"Thunderbirds" was the most popular of the many series produced in England
by Gerry Anderson in "Supermarionation". It was certainly the most popular
in the USA. I was a big fan of the show myself as well as the earlier
"Supercar" and "Fireball XL-5."

I was therefore astonished to find when I visited the UK in the 60's that
the above three shows were just three of about eight series produced by
Anderson's Century 21 Productions using marionettes. They all had a 
futuristic, SF theme and were of higher and higher quality as the decade
went on. Anderson had done a non-SF puppet show for television in the
late 50's and was never satisfied with the way the marionette looked while
walking. He realized that this problem was easily solved if the shows
were such that the characters spent most of their time sitting in vehicles.
So he came up with the SF themes.

Most of the top British special-effects people today began their careers
working for Anderson.

BTW, the special trick of Supermarionation was that the marionette's
strings were actually control wires through which signal could be sent
to control eye and mouth movement. I got a tour of the studio in 1969
and was shown several of the puppets. They had interchangeable heads
for different expressions and bendable fingers and hands to grasp
objects. Realism was enhanced by using insert shots of live actor's
hands manipulating full-size props and controls.

Anderson later when into live action shows such as "UFO" and "Space 1999".
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: mighty mouse
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:13:47 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

     As I was about to turn off the end of the Batman show today, I heard
     an announcement from Fox:

     This Saturday, November 14, Fox is going to be broadcasting Ralph
     Bakshi's MIGHTY MOUSE: THE NEW ADVENTURES.

     If YOU didn't see this outrageous, satirical, hip, mind-blowing
     cartoon series when it aired briefly in 1987, then set your VCRs
     for Saturday!

     (I don't know what time it's on yet.)

     Note:  John Kricfalusi, best-known for REN & STIMPY, worked on this
     series under Ralph Bakshi.

     Note:  TINY TOON ADVENTURES director Kent Butterworth worked on this
     series under Ralph Bakshi, too.
---
  SLMR 2.1a  Japan is buying America, but who SOLD it to them anyways?
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
From: jberger@novell.com (John Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: BTAS: How DID Batman get that coin???
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:30:35 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <BxMMD8.18K@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn ) writes:
>Subject: Re: BTAS: How DID Batman get that coin???
>In article <abick.721600912@cunews> abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) 
>>writes:
>>going around too. The one that really sticks out in my book is...
>>
>>	THE DAMNED COIN!!!
>
>As far as Two-face is concerned, I was under the impression that Two-face
>is NOT Big Bad Harve, it is a merging of the 2 sides of Harvey's personality.
>>
>>One last thing, how come Two-Face's coin is scratched on the end. I don't
>>think it was originally. 

>I didn't think that the coin that Batman threw into the fountain was the
>same coin. It was not specifically shown to be scarred on one side. Even
>if it was, then Harvey could probably have gotten another 2-headed 
>quarter from somewhere else. If he uses the same coin all the time, then
>that could be a reason why it is all beaten up. 
>I still don't see how Batman got the coin--I agree that that 
>makes no sense.

I think that the two-headed quarter is Two-Face's decision maker.  It is a 
double-headed quarter, where one head is normal, and the other head is 
scarred (just like someone we know, hmmm...).  When he is torn between good 
and bad impulses, he flips it.  Normal head, he does the good (Harvey Dent) 
thing.  Scarred head up, he does the bad thing.  (This memory brought to you 
by a childhood of reading comic books.)

I still don't see how Batman got the coin either, but I know why it was so 
important to Two-Face. 
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 22:29:12 -0500 
From: "Kevin J. Chen" <kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: The Mighty Orbots

Josh Geurink writes:

>	So, if anyone for any reason just HAPPENS to have an episode or two
>on tape, I'd happily pay a reasonalbe price to purchase the tape.  Or a copy.

Actually, episodes of this series have been released on videotape -- I'm
not sure if the entire series was released, or whether they were just
select episodes (there weren't actually that many, as I recall).  Check
yer local video stores in the children's section.

Kevin.
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: AEON FLUX (Peter Chung) needs your support!
Keywords: aeon flux chung
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:51:26 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <ed.721546419@cwis>, ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:
> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
> 
> >I don't know.  I'm not sure Mr. Chung can keep up with a half-hour a week.
> >As it is, the animation in the latest segments is spottier than the previous
> >season, and the stories even more disjointed.
> 
> I totally disagree with the "latest segments..." remark.  The current
> season looks as good or better than the first

Not from what I've seen.  In the episodes I've seen so far, the animation
looks as if only the key frames and the first iteration of in-betweens
were shot.  Pay attention to any scenes with the agent climbing into or
of of a ledge or balcony.  Maybe it's just me.

> and the stories being
> disjointed has nothing to do with quality...it's more of an inside joke.

Okay, I'll take your word on it.

> He's currently working with Colossal to try to fund a feature-length
> project that he says is much more off-the-wall than AEON FLUX...perverse,
> surreal and semi-political.  Chung wouldn't say much more than that.

Now THIS I'd like to see...  :-)
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpm.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Siskel & Ebert review "Aladdin"
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:56:32 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

"Two thumbs up".

They said it's not as good as BatB or LM, though.  They also said Robin
Williams deserves an Oscar nomination for his part, and pretty much steals
the movie.

They also said that animations seems to be one of the few formats that can
keep up with Williams' creative energy.  I have to agree.  I hope he does
some similar voice work.  From what I've seen, he's outstanding here.

-- 
The security of the Enterprise is of Paramount importance.
                        -Jean Luc Picard, stardate 45965.3
Organization: Junior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:14:23 -0500 
From: "Kevin J. Chen" <kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: BTAS : Voices (Was: Grey Ghost)
	<RRYSBAFY@cc.swarthmore.edu>
Distribution: rec.arts.animation

Rob Utley writes:

>Hmmm, I'm pretty good at voice recognition but help me out as to the LA Law
>voices. I guess that Clock King was either Dysart or Rachins, right? But
>I'm not at all sure. If anyone can help me out, I'd appreciate it.

The Clock King was Rachins.  Dysart played the head doctor at Arkham
Asylum in "Dreams in Darkness".

Kevin.
From: bryker@cwis.unomaha.edu (Barrett T. Ryker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Can you love Macross and Robotech? (was Re: ANIME)
Date: 7 Nov 92 03:51:48 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

This is my own opinion of Robotech.  I respect Robotech for bringing the
general appeal of anime to the US.  IMO, it is far superior to anything
on american TV.  It is also very fun to watch.  I do NOT respect it
for combineing 3 different shows.  To fit on American TV, 3 different
shows had to be chopped togeather so they would have enough episodes to
be called a "series".  That is kind of like combineing Star Wars,
Battlestar Galactica and Buck Rogers into one season.  They could take
place in 3 different generations, have a simular image style, and
with careful editing, it could look like one giant epic.  This would
be really fun to watch if you had never seen it before, but it would be
unbearable to watch it if you are a Star Wars fan.  
  I do not think Robotech is bad, I just think it is misleading.

About the Anime/Japanimation contraversy; I do not care either way.
It's just that I am sure you would rather hear "what's anime?" after
calling it "anime" than a heated argument after calling anime "Japanimation"


--Barrett Ryker