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From: frank@diku.dk (Frank Damgaard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: keyboard problems - v.99
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:06:48 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

riepe@ifwsn4.ifw.uni-hannover.de (Michael Riepe) writes:

>In article 92Dec16212729@lk-hp-6.hut.fi, jem@snakemail.hut.fi (Johan Myreen) writes:
>|>In article <1992Dec15.022727.27072@cc.gatech.edu> ammo@cc.gatech.edu (Ammo Goettsch) writes:
>|>
>|>[lines deleted]
>|>
>|>On a related note: does anybody know what the following lines in
>|>keyboard.c are good for? The same code (in assembler) is in
>|>boot/setup.S, too. Is this some kind of standard practice?
>|>
>|>         pt_regs = (struct pt_regs *) int_pt_regs;
>|>         scancode=inb_p(0x60);
>|>!        x=inb_p(0x61);
>|>!        outb_p(x|0x80, 0x61);
>|>!        outb_p(x&0x7f, 0x61);
>|>         if (scancode == 0xe0)
>|>                 set_kbd_flag(KG_E0);
>|>
>|>The ins and outs toggle a bit in the keyboard controller's RAM. This
>|>RAM location is not documented by IBM, or at least I haven't been able
>|>to find it in the Technical References. The only documented i/o
>|>addresses are 0x60 (data) and 0x64 (status), and the keyboard driver
>|>should work perfectly without this bit fiddling. In fact, I even tried
>|>removing them, with no ill effects.

>IMHO, this piece of code is of no use; it was used to reset the
>keyboard strobe on ancient PC's and XT's which had no keyboard
>controller but just a shift register for serial->parallel conversion.

I assume the code is leftover from MINIX version 1.0.
(see Operating Systems by Andrew S. Tanembaum, page 516,line 4120-4124)
Minix was intended to work on XT's , which had an 8255 parallel port
as keyboard controller.
AT (& PS/2) compatibles normally use a keyboard controller
(8042/8742 Universal Peripheral Interface microprocessor),
so the code at best does no harm.

All references to port 0x61 should be removed, as Linux
is not intended to run on PX/XT's (<=80286).

On the Olivetti P500 (MCA PS/2 compatible) port 0x61 is the
system control port B, and strobing bit 7 sets/resets IRQ 0.
(according to 
"P500 Hardware-Acrhiteture and Function, OEM technical manual")

I have since Linux 0.95a removed the lines strobing port 0x61, 
and it seems to do no harm (keyboard still works on AT compatibles).
(PS. Linux still doesn't work on MCA, but I'm working on it.)
--------   	
	Frank Damgaard  
	frank@diku.dk 
	(institute of Computer Science at University of Copenhagen, Denmark)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts)
Subject: Re: A proposal for organizing comp.os.linux. [NEW-CHANNELS]
Keywords: split announce angry
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:04:36 GMT

There is a comp.os.linux.x
It's called comp.windows.x.i386unix, so we have three groups already.  I think
that's enough for now, if people would start using them appropriately.
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From: Steve.Harrington@f34.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Harrington)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: How stable is extended filesystem?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:01:28 -0800

Actually the efs author has also mentioned that he will release
a program to convert to the new file system.  A backup and restore
won't be necessary.
 
Also, I have been using efs from day one (about 4 months ago) as
my root partition with only two minor problems, and those may have
been my onw fault.
 
While I await the new efs with great expectations I use the
current version with great satisfaction.
 
Steve Harrington

 * Origin: -[S'Qually Holler's]- HeadQuarters for Fidonet Linux Net
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From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Sources for Man
Date: 12 Dec 1992 20:40:13 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Jim.Corbett@f35.n152.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Corbett) writes:

>Along this thread, where can one find the man for "fsck"?

> * Origin: Intermittent Connection, Eugene OR 503-344-9838 (1:152/35)

I believe the file system-0.98.tar.Z which is on tsx-11.mit.edu somewhere
in the /pub/linux/sources directory has what you are looking for.

James
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: paulf@halcyon.com (Paul Forgey)
Subject: Re: rz hack not working for me
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:40:00 GMT

paulf@halcyon.com (Paul Forgey) writes:

>When logged into a remote host via Kermit, I give that host a sz
><filename> command.  Then, I escape and !rz.  This doesn't work.  The
>screen shows some codes where my first filename is garbled into it,
>suggesting an initiation block of some sort was received.  When rz is
>attempting to send data, I can see it over my modem.  

>From this I figure rz is both sending and receiving to the device in
>RZSZLINE pretty well.  Then why doesn't it work?  It just hangs there
>and does nothing, until either I let it time out or I <ctrl-Z> and kill
>the job.

To answer my own question, me, I got the patches for Xcomm, which
actually makes it work...  using the hacked rzsz with the $ (NOT the !)
command, redirecting I/O, makes it work.  Cool.

Why is that, when using the hacked rzsz with ! and trying: rz <
/dev/modem > /dev/modem  doesn't work?  If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

paulf@halcyon.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: russed@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Russell)
Subject: Re: network over modem...
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:09:27 GMT

mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh) writes:

>It's called SLIP (Single Line IP), and it's currently in development for
	     Oops (Serial Line IP)

 dan
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: A proposal for organizing comp.os.linux. [NEW-CHANNELS]
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:36:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.204007.17189@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>(sorry for posting metadiscussion. I promise I'll only do it once!)
>

I didn't want to add to the traffic either, but I have a suggestion that
I haven't seen yet.

>However, if a few of the louder voices on comp.os.linux really wanted
>to, we could still split comp.os.linux this week. Instead of splitting
>it according to the normal Usenet voting procedures, split it into the
>alt groups. Alt groups don't require a vote - a week's discussion on
>alt.config seems to be sufficient.

This won't be good for people that can't get "alt" newsgroups, or for
sites that can't quickly subscribe to a new group.  I don't have this
problem, just pointing out that some people do.

I think people should be encouraged (to put it nicely) to use other
newsgroups.  We could add a section to the META-FAQ to remind people
which groups to use.  For example, comp.windows.x.i386unix (I think
I got it right!) is for XFree86.  A lot of X problems can be answered
there.  Likewise, there are groups for "is there an X app that can do
this" (comp.windows.x.apps), "I'm new to Unix.  What command should I
use to..." (comp.unix.wizards?), etc.  

I think I've explained this fairly well.  I won't attempt to define
what constitutes a "proper" message for comp.os.linux because I don't
want to scare people away, but I think that voluntary compliance with
an idea such as this would reduce the traffic in this news group.

-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson  |  "I don't need a signature, I need a job!"
* ujlh@sunyit.edu      |  BSCS, December 1992
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdw@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: DOCUMENTATION : state of?
Organization: The Linux Inquisition, Propaganda Division
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:42:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.062723.9587@csd.uwe.ac.uk> p_copela@csd.uwe.ac.uk writes:
>We all know that Christmas is coming up quick and the New year 
>thereafter, Now I know that Linus wants desperately to shove version
>1.0 out the door about this time to make Christmas rather a good time 
>for all those who have now devoted upwards of 3000 hrs personal time
>into linux.
>	I'd like to know where the documentation stands on this. 

I will be working furiously on the Installation/Setup/Getting Started
manual over the next few weeks. Hopefully by early January I'll have
something available. I think this doc is needed, and it's needed soon--
I just posted my outline to the Doc channel and can send it to anyone
who's interested. I'd like to get the manual (maybe even in printed 
format) sent out with the CD-ROM releases, since I do plan to cover
CD-ROM installation in it, and this manual (once it's finished) will
be the definitive Linux installation/setup guide (both for total
UNIX newcomers as well as UNIX gurus). At least, I hope it will be. :)

mdw
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  "It's a Katana, ya Midwestern Computer Geek." --Tom Payne
From: pjangli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Philip Anglin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: LPD: no daemon present SOLVED!
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:31:49 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

Well, it's solved for me anyway.  The problem I had is
that the printcap I got had of=/usr/lib/lpf, but that
file didn't exist.  I took it out, and it works!  Before
I did that, I went through all the programs and directories
and made all the protections like on a Sun, but I still
got "no daemon present".

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
Subject: 0.99 breaks FourPort 
Reply-To: tree@midget.towson.edu (Denise Tree)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:49:03 GMT


My Fourport no longer works at all under 0.99, even using
the kluge which worked under 0.98.3.

I built the kernel without autoconfig ( what is that?) and the 
Fourport configuration is accurately detected at boot but nothing 
works ie. mouse under X, or Wyse 75 on /dev/ttys7. I can force chars 
out the port to the terminal but it doesn't help as it did in the past.

I remember Ted T'so said ther was a fix a while back for people for 
whom earlier versions of the drivers worked better ...

Denise
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP Question: Disallow remote logins
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:31:43 GMT

operjsl@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU wrote:
: I know it is possible via securetty to prohibit anyone from logging in as
: root via telnet.  Is there a way to prohibit an arbitrary user from 
: logging in remotely via telnet?

this happens by default, if you only have the virtual consoles in /etc/securetty.

To do the latter you will need to alter login.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: Anyone have a BBS that runs on Linux?
Organization: Vince and Suzie's Underpowered PC
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 18:55:51 GMT

ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson) writes:

>In article <8i10uB2w165w@questor.org> sp@questor.org (Steve Pershing) writes:
>>bradshaw@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw) writes:
>>
>>| This question has probably come up before. Has anyone got a BBS program
>>| that would run on Linux? I'm looking at anything right now for a closed
>>| system. 
>>
>>Sure... try Waffle... info follows:
>>
>[ Long advertisement for commercial product deleted. ]
>
>I have heard (but not verified) that there is a freely available UNIX
>BBS called Unidel.  I don't know anything about it, but I find it
>difficult to PAY for any Linux software after getting a complete  
>operating system (with X) for free.


ok with me.  You requested info on a BBS program that ran under Linux.
Several people (me included) mentioned Waffle as one that fit what you
asked for...you never said it had to be free.


>I had previously looked for a free BBS package for Linux, but the
>only newsgroup I could find was a waffle one and a bunch of idiots
>told me to write my own if I didn't want to pay for it.  That, of course,
>did nothing to improve my impression of waffle or the people that use
>it. :-)

well speaking as only one Waffle user, please eat shit and die.
there...how's your impression now ?


>Since most BBSs are message-based, it seems that a good news reader
>could be hacked into a BBS.  Local discussion areas would just be
>local newsgroups.  Headers would take up quite a bit of disk space
>but it wouldn't be difficult to implement, and you wouldn't have to
>mess with the design details of data storage, etc.  If a free BBS
>can't be found, maybe a mailing list can be set up to discuss
>writing one.

once again, everything you discuss is part of Waffle already...it has
built-in news/mail plus that ability to hook in external programs
like nn for instance...

but you already said you want it all for free...

>-- 
>Jim H.
>*
>* James L. Henrickson  |  "I don't need a signature, I need a job!"
>* ujlh@sunyit.edu      |  BSCS, December 1992

when you read a response to something you expected info about, and you
don't like the answer, and you call the givers of such (quite valid)
answers idiots...I expect you'll have a long and distinguished career
in the fast-food-service industry, drive-through department.

followups to /dev/null as you have entered my global kill file...

-- 
     ---------- Vince Skahan --------- vince@victrola.sea.wa.us ----------
"USENET is not an obsession. It's just something I have to do all the time."
					quote from Jan'93 Unix World article
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mhbrekke@iastate.edu (Monty H. Brekke)
Subject: Re: FAQ: Yes, the Dimond Stealth works in 1024x768
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:53:39 GMT

In <badger.724106648@phylo> badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger) writes:
>
>
>It is time to clear up this confusion. The Diamond Stealth works fine
>in 1024x768x256 -- the trick is to run Windows first (in 1024x768). This sets
>the clocks.

I've tried this on my Stealth and still the board refuses to cooperate.
I've checked the Xconfig settings, and they are well within the specs
for my monitor (a Viewsonic 6). Anybody have any suggestions? I'm 
almost ready to sell the board and get an Orchid Farenheit.










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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kennu@mits.mdata.fi (Kenneth Falck)
Subject: Re: I have an interesting question...
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:58:35 GMT

jeremiah@cuug.ab.ca (Jerry Jeremiah 290-8941) writes:
> I want to know if, while we can mount dos volumes, can we mount disks
> that have been stacked with Stacker or DoubleSpaced with MSDOS 6.0?

I haven't seen such support in Linux.. But has anybody even seen
the specifications of a Stacker drive-file? I doubt they've been
published, and just guessing the format could prove a bit tricky...

What I know about Stacker, all the stuff on a stacked drive is
actually in a single file on an MSDOS filesystem, so obviously
one should first mount the msdos-fs and then mount the stacker-file
on that fs into some directory. I wonder if this is possible on 
Linux; can mount use other than UNIX block-specials as devices
to mount from.

> (btw, the MSDOS 6.0 is a beta version and is not out until next year)
> 
> >>Jerry

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kennu@mits.mdata.fi
From: rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: What's needed for IBM Token Ring?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 13:36:32 GMT
Organization: Just me.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33
Summary: I'd like to help with the driver, but don't know how...
Keywords: IBM Token Ring

I've asked if there were a Token Ring driver for Linux, and got the response
that "technical data" was needed before the driver could be written.  But
*what* technical data?  Is it just a few pieces of info that could be asked in
a telephone conversation?  Is it something that could be FAX'd?  or are we
talking whole-scale technical manual stuff?

I think I could probably *get* the info... (from 3Com?) but then who would I 
send it to?  I don't really have the know-how (much less the time) to do it
myself... though I'm willing to help in any way that I'm able.

Rick Miller   <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>   Ricxjo Muelisto
Occupation:  Husband, Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus Sys0p, and  Linux fan
From: pk@cs.tut.fi (Kellom{ki Pertti)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: MONEY + Linux
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:16:01
Organization: Tampere Univ. of Technology, Finland.
Distribution: world
	<1992Dec17.195753.29891@samba.oit.unc.edu>
	<1992Dec17.232925.6334@midway.uchicago.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: talitiainen.cs.tut.fi
In-reply-to: goer@kimbark.uchicago.edu's message of Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:29:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.232925.6334@midway.uchicago.edu> goer@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Richard L. Goerwitz) writes:
   One of my fears is that Linux is really a hackers' tool.  I use UNIX as
   a programming environment for linguistic research, using mostly C and
   Icon.  I really don't care about the internals of the OS, except insofar
   as they directly affect my research.  I'm not looking to have any fears
   assuaged.  I'm curious, though, what the "grand plan" is for Linux.  Is
   it supposed to end up replacing UNIX/386, or is it more like a really
   neat Minix for people who have the time to fool with it?

I can supply at least one data point of Linux being used for something
else besides hacking the kernel. My wife used it for producing a large
number of graphs of measurement data (don't ask me about the data!)
for her Master's thesis in Plastics engineering. I wrote some
awk/gnuplot scripts that she then used for generating PostScript.  If
there is a free Icon system available, you could no doubt use Linux
for your research.  I am not that much into kernel hacking myself, but
I am very pleased that I can get the familiar X/Emacs/Scheme
environment for free at home.

So at least for me Linux offers a familiar environment in which I
can do things that are of interest to me.
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From: c60b-1fk@e260-1c.berkeley.edu (Ahmon Dancy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Serial port polling
Date: 19 Dec 1992 03:51:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: e260-1c.berkeley.edu
Originator: c60b-1fk@e260-1c.berkeley.edu


Someone posted a message about how he had implemented serial port polling
in Linux.   Whoever posted that, would you please email me your current
driver?  You told me that you would modify it for the latest version
of linux but I'd like to get a hold of what you have by tomorrow.  Please
email me ASAP
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Xref: sparky comp.os.linux:21192 comp.windows.x:20424 comp.windows.x.i386unix:80
From: fmn@nevada.edu (FRANK NEEDHAM)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.i386unix
Subject: X Question
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:51:50 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services

Hi all,

I'm using Linux/SLS.98pl5 and attempting to get Xfree86 up and running. 
The problem I have right now is that when 'startx' is run, the screen locks
up with a grey cross-hatch pattern on it. <ctrl><alt><bckspc> doesn't let me
exit or kill the server either. Can someone fill me in on what is going on with
this? I remember some references that were made to this, but I couldn't find 
where I saw this.

thanks,
-frank fmn@redrock.nevada.edu
From: rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Root Login Refused On Some Terminals, Can
Date: 20 Dec 1992 12:21:52 GMT
Organization: Just me.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33
Summary: There's always a way around it...

Simon.Janes@f370.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Simon Janes) writes:
>There is a file called /etc/securetty that lists all of the "trusted" 
>terminals to allow root logins. If you try and login as root from a 
>terminal not listed in /etc/securetty login will not allow you to 
>login.

Of course, you can always login as some other user, then "su"...

I figured this out when accessing my Linux box at work from my box
at home (hey, I'm a newby to sysadmin, OK?).  Keeping it this way
gives you two layers of password protection between root access and
the outside world.

This way, the average pimple-faced 14-year-old with his trusty Atari 400
will have about as much chance of gaining root access on your machine as
he has of starting an affair with Princess Diana.  Can you say "1/2^128"?

Though I've heard that since the Royal Couple split up, his chances with
the Princess are somewhat better of late...

Rick Miller   <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>   Ricxjo Muelisto
Occupation:  Husband, Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus Sys0p, and  Linux fan
From: eec@po.CWRU.Edu (Edward E. Conroy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Save the children!
Date: 17 Dec 1992 04:02:29 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


I'm having trouble installing Linux on my PC. I have a 486DX/33,
4MB of RAM, and plenty of disk space. I booted off disk a1, and
then put in disk a2, no problem. I ran fdisk, and I created a
hd2 partition, and an hd3 partition. I then mkfs /dev/hd2 50000,
and mkswap /dev/hd3 10000. Finally, I did swapon /dev/hd3. I
ran doinstall, and I chose the TINY system. The install seemed to
go fine. I was able to see all the files mounted under /dev/hd2.
Oh, and I DID remember to reboot between partitioning and mkfsing.
It looked like a wonderful success, but when I tried to boot off
my new boot disk, I had no luck. It came up, went through it's
lp0 present, or whatever, and then BOOM! Faster than you could see,
it started scrolling child process 001 ended with code ff00, or
something to that effect. Anyway, the hard drive light just whirred
as the child process xxx died with code ff00 went on into the
thousands. I tried this with different disks, and with or without
the swap partition. No luck. Can somebody please help me????

ed conroy
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Macromolecular Spectroscopy Group      E-mail: conroy@cwmac2.emac.cwru.edu