From: pavlovic-milan@CS.YALE.EDU (Milan Pavlovic)
Subject: Re: Conflict could lay foundations for Islamic state in Europe.
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:08:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.214053.14717@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
>Sigh. I asked Milan Stojanovic what he meant with the use of
>fundamentalist: "So it is up to fundamentalists in Izetbegovic 
>government", and asked if not people like Karadzic and Milosevic
>could be regarded as fundamentalists. In response(?) to this Milan
>Pavlovic posts an article from the Guardian which discusses the
>possbilities that B-H could become a Islamic state in Europe.
>
>Milan, I asked about fundamentalists, not Muslims. B-H may become
>an Islamic state in Europe, so what? We have 40+ Christian states,
>is that much better? There are fundamentalist Muslims and there
>are fundamentalist Christians. None of them are very nice guys.
>Thankfully none of them seems to prevail in Europe.
>
>Clearly there are no fundamentalists in the B-H government, I at
>least I have heard no proposal to introduce sharia laws. But when
>Serbs knee-jerk react every time you point out the obvious: Kosovo
>is not theirs, that seems quite fundamentalistic to me.
>-- 

Judging by your reply, it seems you didn't read the article I posted with
much care. The article is from "The Daily Telegraph" , not the "Guardian".
But that is not so important as is your belief that there are no 
fundamentatlists in the Bosnian government. I am quoting the last few 
paragraphs from the same article, which prove my point (did you read the
whole article?)

Tell me, Erland, are you of Albanian descent? And if you are not, why don't
you show me, the Skopjans, and the Greeks just how much you care about the
Albanians, by for example adopting an Albanian, instead of continuosly
criticizing the Serbs, Skopjans, and Greeks for their treatment of the 
Albanian minority. Then when you actually see what it's like living next to
an Albanian come back to us and tell us how it felt...

Well, here are the goodies on Izetbegovic.  Enjoy!
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	Conflict could lay foundations for Islamic state in Europe

		    commentary by John Zametica

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  Mr. Izetbegovic, by all accounts a deeply religious man, wrote in 1970 a
pamphlet entitled Islamic Declaration.  He has never renounced this work,
despite being imprisoned by the communists for it.

  It may be helpful to examine it in some detail as an indication of what
he stands for.  This is clear from the first page: "The creation of united
Islamic community from Morocco to Indonesia".  The tone of the pamphlet is
imbued with praise for Islam.  A British reader would be itnerested to note
that "only a few thousand genuinely Islamic fighters forced England in the
1950s to withdraw from Suez".

  Turkey receives special contempt: "Turkey as an Islamic country used to
rule the world.  Turkey as an imitation of Europe represents a third-rate
country."

  He goes on: "There can be no peace or coexistence between Islamic faith
and non-Islamic social and political institutions".  A few more passages
are worth quoting: "The Islamic movement must and can take power as soon
as it is morally and numerically strong enough not only to destroy the
existing non-Islamic power, but also to build up a new Islamic one."  He
stresses that "the Islamic order is the unity between faith and the social and
political system."

  It would be premature to sound alarm bells, but the Muslim leadership in
Bosnia-Hercegovina has yet to prove it accepts western standards of democracy.

o John Zametica is a Research Fellow in European Security at the Polytechnic
  of Central London.
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Regards,
Milan Pavlovic
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