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From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Re: Fabriholics Anonymous
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu ()
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:02:21 GMT



Well, I must admit I'm not as far along as most of you, but then I just
started over a year ago! I've been slowly outgrowing fabric boxes!
Of course, I only quilt, except for the satin robe I decided to do for
my hubby (yes, I finished it and for a first ever sewn piece, I'd say
it looks darn good!) and the few pillows I've done. I just *LOVE* going
to the fabric store and drooling over the fabric, like I'm sure everyone
else does! I can't help it...it's just so...well, as my all-time favorite 
prof liked to say "Pregnant with possibilities"!!!!  Besides quilting and 
the odd piece of clothing, I'm also trying a crazy quilt stuffed kitty/
teddy bear. And then there's the cross-stitch, and the crewel work,
and the embroidery for the real crazy quilt. And we must'nt forget
the plaster chess set we're painting, or the drawings, or the writing,
or the model horse stuff (blankets, as well as THINKING about 
repainting the horses themselves). Why is it that once you get
started on creative projects that you mind is never at rest?
Oh! You can forget the pets either...in fact, I have my very own 
"Quilting kitty"...his name is Dante and EVERYTIME I try doing something
with my fabric he's either sitting on it or lying in or ON my fabric
box...I guess if he were human, he'd be a fabriholic too (the other
cat is the "computer kitty"...she LOVES computers..the dog (and soon
puppy), well, they don't pay much attention to me!). And now I'd 
like to learn to weave......*SIGH* will it ever stop????  And I don't 
even have my own room, my sewing machine is in the living room!
We live in a townhouse....

Kay Schlumpf
From: e_splett@trofs.enet.dec.com (Evan Splett)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Hair scrunchies
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:20:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Organisation: Digital Equipment of Canada - Ottawa


In article <27AUG199210154094@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov>, aatresa@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline) writes...
>I've lost my copy of the directions for making hair scrunchies.  

There is a new book out from Klutz Press on how to do braids,
that includes how to make bows and scrunchies.

    Evan.
From: nancyh@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Nancy Hill)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Fabricaholics Annon.
Keywords: CLONES Abound!
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:52:29 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.


AAAAAAHHHHHHH!   CLONES!!!

I thought my sister was the only one.  She has stacks and stacks
of clear plastic containers full of fabric.  She also has every 
craft imaginable -- counted cross-stich (every color of floss,
weight of fabric and pattern book needed).  Crocheting of table
cloths and doilies, knitting, stained glass, Indian beading (a
skill which came in handy when I was beading my sisters wedding
dress -- which looked fabulous by the by), quilts of every variety
imaginable.  I'm now hearing words like -- looms, spinning yarn --
and the sure sign of trouble -- the glazed eyes.

When I ask -- where are you going to put it?  She laughs this 
crazed sounding cackle and says -- use your imagination Nancy.
We could take down this table and stacks of plastic containers
put them in the middle of the room -- throw a table cloth over
the top and you have a coffee table.  Move the sewing machine
and serger over here -- and viola - a brand new corner never 
properly used before.  Then, if that doesn't work -- there's 
always your room!

I'll let her know she's not alone!

Nancy
From: marg@media-lab.media.mit.edu (Margaret Minsky)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: It's fun to go to the pleaters...
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:29:30 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: /u/marg/.organization


I just visited the pleaters for the first time. (There seems to be
only one in Boston, in the 6th floor of the Fargo building. Anyone
know of others?)

It was fun. This is in the building that is the last outpost of the
garment district. The way they pleat is: they have cardboard forms
inthe shape of the pleats. They have box pleats and knife (sideways)
pleats of every dimension you can imagine. They lay the fabric on
them, chuck in into a room of secret processing (mostly hot steam) for
about an hour, and return it to you pleated.

I am trying to duplicate a nifty feature of my mother's wedding dress,
pleated nylon net. It was pleated in "accordion" pleats (regular up
and down plain folds) which turn out to be very unusual at least at
this pleat place. They consider it a specialty item, and only had two
forms for it, one in 5/8" deep and one in 1" deep. (of course I
pereversely wanted 3/4" but am testing 5/8). I can see why it isn;t
that useful in garment making, because I can't think of a great way to
get it into a waistband without a lot of fullness. It makes me want to
go back to the dress and see if they did something fancy, like pleat a
circle of material with pleats that decrease in sixze toward the top?
But a service to do that is clearly not available here in Boston
anyway).

The minimum charge is $25... amply covers the 10 yds I need. Maybe I
can throw in some other stuff in the order. Right now they are testing
various different 1 yd samples of net I bought, I can pick them up
tomorrow. (they will run tests while you wait, in about 45 mins, if
you want)

They say that nylon net pleats will look crisp but will remove
themselves upon the first crushing (say, sitting on the dress). We'll
see.

A peeve...in looking for netting there don;t seem to be very many
"pretty" nets, like the old hexagons. I find a very ugly large hex
net, and rather ugly diamonds in a "petticoat" weight, and small
diamonds in the "tulle". Also, very small choice of weights and
stiffness. Maybe things would be different if I shop in NY?
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Getting gum out of clothes
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:00:12 -0500
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <Btq41G.A43@acsu.buffalo.edu>, birgenom@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (T.B. Shows/ Maureen Sion) writes:
> 
> Hi! Does anyone know how to get gum out of clothes?

If you can get a bit of dry ice, hold the dry ice on the gum (wear heavy 
gloves!) for a couple of minutes, then try popping the gum off the fabric
with something blunt -- a blow from a table knife handle often works well.

Residue (if any) will come out with a non-polar solvent like naptha or
Citru-solve.

Kay Klier  

Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: kees@ee.ualberta.ca (Kees denHartigh)
Subject: Windows gopher?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:29:14 GMT

Is there a version of gopher for windows? Any one ever think about writing 
one?
-- 
Kees denHartigh                         kees@ee.ualberta.ca 
Electrical Engineering Digital Labs     alberta!bode!kees
University of Alberta 238 Civil Elect   Voice (403)492-5421
Edmonton, Alberta Canada                Fax   (403)492-1811
From: kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu (SunCat)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Sights and Sounds
Keywords: gif snd
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:30:49 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

I think I know what Gopher is--a service that links to other services of  
various kinds.  But here's my question:  Where are the sound bites I've  
heard about?  Can I play them right here on my Mac or NeXT without leaving  
Gopher?  What about GIFS and how would I search for them?  Please mail and  
post your reply as I don't read this group very often.
ADVthaksANCE
=========SunCat++++     | kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu
"If every tool, when ordered, or even of its own accord, could do
 the work that befits it ... then there would be no need either of
 apprentices for the master workers or slaves for the lords."
 --Aristotle
_Scientific Quotations: The Harvest of a Quiet Eye_ A. L. MacKay
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: tsai@teetot.acusd.edu (Allen Tsai)
Subject: Intel EXP16ODI driver can not coexist with Gopher Clarkson's
Organization: usd
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 20:12:13 GMT


Our PCs are currently running NOVELL 3.11 using Intel's EtherExpress 16 NICs.
And they have Novell's Lan WorkPlace TCP/IP software as well. Now, we
would like to run Gopher client application, but it requires Clarkson
packet driver, which EXP16ODI driver, came with NIC, does not support for.
On the other hand, both EXP16ODI in the NIC and EXP16 in Gopher package
must coexist to make NOVELL server connection, TCP/IP applcations,
including Telnet, FTP, Gopher, all working harmoniously. But it turned
out in the following scenario: if both drivers loaded, then server
connection failed; if EXP16 loaded, then only Gopher worked and vice versa. 
Any information regarding this is HIGHLY appreciated. Please direct
information to me. I will summerize and post it later. 
	Allen Tsai
	tsai@usdcsv.acusd.edu
	University of San Diego
Newsgroups: alt.gopher,comp.infosystems.gopher
From: adamfast@u.washington.edu (adam fast)
Subject: Re: The Macintosh GopherApp
Organization: university of washington
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:41:01 GMT


> 
> In article <1992Aug20.194654.7206@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, bk@Turing.ORG
> (Brian Knatz) says:
> >
> >Of the ones I've looked at, GopherApp out of Indiana is the
> >nicest for our purposes, because it makes the gopher-server's
> >Problem is, we run our own gopher hole here
> >(Gopher.Virginia.EDU, called GWIS) and I want to make a
> >GopherApp file that opens automatically to our own hole.
> >menu, but both options are grayed out (as is the "Text" menu(?))
>  


   Here's how to use those items:  go to the Internet pop-down menu and
select Preferences.  Use the scroll bar to scroll down to the box headed 
Server to Mac file TYPE mapping, check the box that says Allow new & edit 
links.  Close the Preferences. Voila!  The New lInk and Edit link items are 
ungrayed!
   Hope that helps.
   Yes GopherApp is a verrry marvelous & beautiful piece of software!  Kudos
to Dan Gilbert.

cheers,
         adam


adamfast@u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: smcgee@draper.com (Steven McGee)
Subject: Re: Comments suggestions
Reply-To:  ()
Organization: Charles Stark Draper Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:10:27 GMT


smcgee@draper.com
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: kalal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bob Kalal)
Subject: PC Gopher via Banyan LAN
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:49:59 GMT

We've been working with Gopher servers and clients here
with quite a bit of success, but have run across a
difficulty recently. A faculty member trying Gopher 
from a PC on a Banyan LAN has reported that he can't
get anything working. Our experience with other LANs
has been good. We're going to get over to his Banyan
next week to examine the configuation, etc. But we're
wondering if anyone out there has any experience
running with a Banyan LAN or can give us any pointers.

Thanks....

Bob Kalal
"The" Ohio State University
Xref: sparky alt.gopher:1259 comp.infosystems.gopher:358
From: gibbs@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Gibbs)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher,comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Links to U of Illinois?
Summary: We are reorganizing our gopher, please change any links to our server.
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:51:18 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

The University of Illinois is undergoing a major reorganization of our gopher
server menus.  One effect of this is that links to our server from other
servers may no longer work.  If you have a link to our server, please update
it in a few days to reflect the new path name.

Paul Gibbs
University of Illinois GopherBoy
gopher@uiuc.edu
From: berthelt@convex.cl.msu.edu (nathalie berthelot)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: PC_Gopher_II v1.04b PC/TCP bug fix
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:43:45 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, East Lansing

The version 1.04b of PC Gopher II does not work with the PC/TCP kernel
from FTP Software.  For those of you who are interested, you can get a
corrected version of source and executable via anonymous ftp from
ftp.msu.edu in the /pub/msdos/gopher/gopher2 directory.

............................
Nathalie Berthelot
Michigan State University
berthelt@convex.cl.msu.edu
............................
From: rww@mugwump.cl.msu.edu (Richard W. Wiggins)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Re: PC Gopher via Banyan LAN
Keywords: LAN Banyan
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:10:00 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

In article <1992Aug29.144959.3194@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
kalal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bob Kalal) writes:
> We've been working with Gopher servers and clients here
> with quite a bit of success, but have run across a
> difficulty recently. A faculty member trying Gopher 
> from a PC on a Banyan LAN has reported that he can't
> get anything working. Our experience with other LANs
> has been good. We're going to get over to his Banyan
> next week to examine the configuation, etc. But we're
> wondering if anyone out there has any experience
> running with a Banyan LAN or can give us any pointers.
> 
> Thanks....
> 
> Bob Kalal
> "The" Ohio State University

I can't comment on Banyan specifically, but we found that the PC
client tries to write to the Rez and Log files regardless of 
whether the disk it loaded from is mounted for writes.  So from
a file server, where it loads from a read-only disk, the app dies.
One solution was to have our menuing software make a local copy
of Gopher to load from the local PC's hard disk.  Later, a programmer
here at MSU hacked the client to open the files for read only.  If
that hasn't been posted to the net we'll ask him to do so.

But it may be that none of that has anything to do with your Banyan
problems....

/Rich Wiggins, Gopher Coordinator, [the] Michigan State U
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: klein@saturn.glassboro.edu
Subject: Re: Gopher & Novell
Organization: Glassboro State College
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:40:44 GMT

In article <9209011850.AA19543@top.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> Stephen I Miller <similler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>Subject: Gopher & Novell
>Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:50:10 GMT
>I am trying to use Gopher in cooperation of some Novell NetWare workstation 
>software but am having limited success.  Has anyone done this successfully?

I get the same error you do. I've just chalked it up to not having
enough memory in the machine.

Bruce Klein
Rowan College of New Jersey 
(formerly Glassboro State College)
Glassboro, NJ
From: similler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen I Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Gopher & Novell
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:50:10 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

I am trying to use Gopher in cooperation of some Novell NetWare workstation 
software but am having limited success.  Has anyone done this successfully?

I load a packet driver.

3C503 -n 0x62 3 0x300 1  (version 9.4.0)

Next load IPX.  This is version 3.10 of the BYU packet driver version of IPX.

Next load NETX version 3.22.

I am using PC Gopher II version 1.02b and NCSA Telnet version 2.3.03.

I can use Gopher to access all Gopher items on the Gopher server and I can also
telnet from Gopher to those services that require telneting to UNTIL I load 
NETX.  After loading NETX I can still access items on the Gopher server but 
Gopher will no longer allow me to telnet to other computers.  I get an error 
saying that NCSA Telnet can't find a name server.  However, when I exit Gopher 
and try using NCSA Telnet to telnet to the same computer that I was trying to 
connect to in Gopher, I have no problems.


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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Need Help With XGopher
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:44:58 GMT
Organization: Mail Group

After building XGopher 1.1a I get the following error on execution:

	Cannot convert string "fontname" to type Fontstruct

The x-window comes up without any text in it.  What causes this problem
and how do I solve it?

Thanks,
Will Estes		Internet: weste@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: vader@meryl.csd.uu.se (]ke Eldberg)
Subject: A compound problem
Organization: University of Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:20:18 GMT

Greetings, fellow archers!

I have a problem and would appreciate any hints!

I recently bought a Hoyt SuperSlam Supreme, 60# with
fast glass limbs. I shoot this with an overdraw of 2 inches
and I use the Barner ST1-11 arrow rest and a 24 inch Easton
stabilizer, 3 weights. I use a release (Fletchhunter). The
bow is set to 55# and my arrows are Easton ACC 3-04 with
80 grain points, the length from string to point is 26.7
inches (my draw length is 29").

Problem: when shooting through paper, the arrows strike
with a vicious snap to the right. The tear is 3 inches!
 
Easton, in their broschure, claim that this indicates a
too stiff arrow; but the 3-04 is right according to the
tables. They suggest moving the arrow rest closer to the
bow. I have tried that to the clearance limit, but no
effect. I have increased the bow weight up to 60#, but
the same tear to the right remains. I have moved the
arrow rest out from the bow, so that the arrow points
about 10 degrees to the left of the stabiliser; this
reduces the tear but looks crazy! I mean, common sense
says it cannot be right.

The fault is not due to sloppy shooting; others with
more experience have shot the bow with the same results.

I am at my wit's end; has anyone got an idea?

Ake Eldberg
Uppsala, Sweden
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: edwin@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (mr  ecy  chung)
Subject: Re: A compound problem
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:17:03 GMT

vader@meryl.csd.uu.se (]ke Eldberg) writes:

>Greetings, fellow archers!

>I have a problem and would appreciate any hints!

>I recently bought a Hoyt SuperSlam Supreme, 60# with
>fast glass limbs. I shoot this with an overdraw of 2 inches
>and I use the Barner ST1-11 arrow rest and a 24 inch Easton
>stabilizer, 3 weights. I use a release (Fletchhunter). The
>bow is set to 55# and my arrows are Easton ACC 3-04 with
>80 grain points, the length from string to point is 26.7
>inches (my draw length is 29").

>Problem: when shooting through paper, the arrows strike
>with a vicious snap to the right. The tear is 3 inches!
> 
>Easton, in their broschure, claim that this indicates a
>too stiff arrow; but the 3-04 is right according to the
>tables. They suggest moving the arrow rest closer to the
>bow. I have tried that to the clearance limit, but no
>effect. I have increased the bow weight up to 60#, but
>the same tear to the right remains. I have moved the
>arrow rest out from the bow, so that the arrow points
>about 10 degrees to the left of the stabiliser; this
>reduces the tear but looks crazy! I mean, common sense
>says it cannot be right.

>The fault is not due to sloppy shooting; others with
>more experience have shot the bow with the same results.

>I am at my wit's end; has anyone got an idea?
I once had a similar problem and I had it fixed with a different arrow
rest!  But something you might want to try is a powder test just in case
your arrow hits something on its way out!  To do the powder test just
spray some foot powder (or any kind of powder) on the arrow (around the
end of the arrow near the flectchings as well as the fletchings), shoot
the arrow and check for "contact mark(s)".  If the arrow hits something
on the way out, it will show up as scratch mark(s) on the powder that
you have on the arrow; or leave some powder on the bow/rest/cable etc
that the arrow might have come in contact with.

Good luck.


>Ake Eldberg
>Uppsala, Sweden

Edwin
edwin@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Sunday, 30 Aug 1992 16:57:36 EDT
From: <DMEJJ@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: ARCHIVES

I am a new reader of this group.  Can anyone tell me where I can find the
archives for ALT.ARCHERY ?  I would greatly appreciate it.
Thank you.
Dan Schlissel.
From: fsgah@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: ouch
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:44:03 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

I like archery too.  One time though my grandmama was watching and in a freak
turn of events my arrow shot backwards and went right through her left eye and
into her brain.  "Whoops, sorry grandma."
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: vader@meryl.csd.uu.se (]ke Eldberg)
Subject: "Hunting" rules
Organization: University of Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:43:06 GMT

Here in Sweden, bowhunting is illegal, the argument being that
animals suffer more from an arrow (that kills them by causing
internal bleeding) than from a bullet (which knocks them uncon-
scious immediately by hydrostatic shock).

Swedish bowhunters go to Finland and Denmark to hunt.

Anyway, the most popular type of archery competition here is
the "hunting round" which usually consists of 2 x 15 targets
in the shape of animals. The targets do not move. They vary in
size from a medium-sized bird to a life-size moose. The archers
do not know the distances. Three arrows may be shot at each
target:
1st arrow in heart circle gives 15 points
1st arrow in body gives 12 points
2nd arrow in heart circle is 10 points
2nd arrow in body is 7 points
3rd arrow in heart circle is 5 points
3rd arrow in body is 2 points

Only one arrow is counted.

Is there anything like this outside Europe?

Ake Eldberg
Uppsala, Sweden
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: stanjm02@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: FITA-Field Archery?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:29:20 GMT

Does anybody know if FITA has rules, structures, etc for Field Archery?
I am thinking of setting up a Field Archery Course in the future in a 
predominant FITA country i.e. Singapore. Would anybody with suggestions
and information please reply.
My E-mail address is "STANJM02@cc.curtin.edu.au" 
From: lfc@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Leon Cluff)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:02:05 GMT
Subject: Mail Order Target Supplies?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.archery

Is there a mail order supply company which has a large supply of target archery
components.  I am familiar with Bowhunters Discount Supply (?) but it is very
limited target archery components.  The archery stores in Northern Colorado
are 99.5% hunting supplies. 


Leon Cluff
lfc@hpfilfc.fc.hp.com
From: shiv@tsp.med.umn.edu (Shiv Prasad (Gregerson))
Subject: Re: that's gotta hurt!
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:41:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.154817.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsgah@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>Another time I tried to shoot an apple off my brothers hand when in a freak
>turn of events the arrow shot backwards and pierced my baby sisters best
>friends dog right in the heart.  "Whoops, sorry lil buddy."

And in a third freak accident, you shot an arrow that was missing one of
the vanes and it flew in a circle (ala' Kevin Costner's Robin Hood) and
shot straight up your butt :-)

No offense intended, but take some if it makes you feel better.

Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: kevin stemp <casey@halcyon.com>
Subject: 3-D Shoots
Originator: bbs@halcyon.com
Keywords: Hunting,Shoot
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:05:46 GMT

Hello, we have something very  similar to that hear in Washington, USA.
Its called a 3-D shoot. Basicaly its the same deal as yours, but 
occasionaly we rig 'em up so's they move, and there is usually only one 
arrow shot at each target. They are quite popular amoung the compund 
shooters (I shoot target recurve) and they flock in great numbers to our 
annual 3-D shoot. We get a lot of people and have to have groups of six 
go through together... It's a lot of fun.. Later...

-=*( Casey )*=-

Seattle, Washington
USA
Newsgroups: alt.archery