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From: kim_sh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Sung Hyun Kim)
Subject: Re: Re: DJ for President -- 2
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:27:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.163159.13512@sbcs.sunysb.edu> swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:
>
>What I want to ask you is :
>
>1) Who do you want vote for?  If you don't like anybody, are you going to
>   give up the vote?
>
>2) If you are going to vote for someone, What is the reason?
>
>3) What is your expactation for next president ?
>
>

Even though the questions were not for me, here my reply goes...
[BTW, it gets really dirty and disturbing when it comes to one's political
 beliefs...doesn't it?]

1) Nobody ; I guess so. Who has the right to push me into voting? Yeah, you 
call it political ignorance or whatever.  
2) Suppose I want to vote for someone, do I need a reason? 
I find human beings tend to pick up the solution first and then try to justify
the choice by a lot of high powered reasonings (I almost said BS :) )
3) Well... I kinda forgot what a president was supposed to do.. Maybe I need
whole fresh education of poli sci. 

-- 
 Sung Hyun Kim    kim_sh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu // kim_sh@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu
From: wjin@cs.uh.edu (W. Woody Jin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Koeran Pop Music (Re: Rapping on Korean pop/rock)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 18:36:29 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodin.cs.uh.edu

In article <1992Dec16.033254.10274@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
>
>[...]
>>If it sounds good, it is good enough for me...
>
>Agreed.  

I  have to disagree ( ;-) ).
There are two kinds of music, I think : intuitive and non-intuitive.
Of course, there is in-between.
Most popular music belongs to the first group and most classical
music belongs to the latter. 
Fully understanding and enjoying non-intuitive music requires deep experience 
of music (listening, performing, studying theories, etc...).

This intuition is quite relative experience.
A classical music lover may find Orff's Carmina Burana quite intuitive.
On the other hand, a pop music lover who is not familiar with classical
music may not.  Even for somewhat intuitive classical musics, learning
music styles and theories helps understading and fully enjoying the music.

"If it sounds good, it is good enough for me..." may be good enough for
popular music, but not enough, IMHO, if you are talking about 
Schubert, Schumann, Schoenberg, ...etc.


>I was just trying to point out WHY Korean songs did NOT sound
>good.  I have a nasty habit of attempting to produce some objective
>evidence or supporting facts for my vague feelings.  All this music
>mechanics was a feable attempt at that.  But it suffices to say that "I
>think they suck."

Maybe I am misunderstanding your article (I killed some previous articles).
Are you saying that Korean popular musics suck ?
Even though I don't know much about (Korean) popular music,
I do find many good Korean popular musics. I don't think they suck.


>James Choi


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From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Orange-jok
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:44:04 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Dec14.180507.13429@news.acns.nwu.edu> andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.152654.19042@news.columbia.edu> jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim) writes:
>>providing the alternatives to these kids?
> ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Peace corp, or how about volunteering to teach/help out in these
>southern islands?  Or volunteer service at orphanages, hospital,
>leper colony, etc....

Of course, we all know they will not go for any of these ardious stuff.  I
have more realistic solution.  Promote trans-pacific tour to Chicago.  Let
them do some kind of "who spends more" contest in all major shopping
centers in Chicago area.  It will satiate their spending desire, and it
will protect the innocents in Korea from turning blue of envy.  And who
knows, some of the money they spend here may "trickle down" to me...

>>Andy Kim
>Andrew Sung Hyun Kim

James Choi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim)
Subject: Re: Orange-jok
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:39:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.083603.10159@eng.umd.edu> dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
>[....]
>	You should not ignore those who worked hard to be rich;
>	and they have every right to spend their money where they
>	want to.
>	Again, if there's problem, it must be how they became rich;
>	but not where they spend their money.

Well, I could suggest a few way of spending their money.
If its an ostentatious display of wealth that they desire try this.
Get a very large cup (1 quart+), sun visor, Air Jordan, etc...
and buy yourself a private chartered flight to Somolia.
Once you land, hire a peon who will carry a refrigerated cart
filled in orange juice, and go for a nice evening promenade.

Or your second choice would be to go to slums of India where
Mother Teresa works and, of ocourse, to make sure that you are
cynosure, make sure you wear your Rodeo Drive bought items,
and of course do not forget your large cup of orange juice.

Happy journeys.. just an hald smiley.

>	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878


Andrew Sung Hyun Kim
Organization: Masters student, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:00:42 -0500 
From: Woncheal Choi <wc1q+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Rapping on  Korean pop/rock


 jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)  wrote:

>And finally, let's go and kill all the lyricists.  I like listening
>to songs with more artistic and poetic lyrics, like Peter Gabriel,
>old Genesis and Rush.  Can anyone in Korea write lyrics that can
>stand on their own as art?  I mean take a look at most of these
>words.  Boy meets girl, girl either doesn't care about the boy or
>they are so in love it's like eating a cake with 3 inches of sugar
>coating, girl/boy leaves for some reason...  All that's missing
>is the last part, girl/boy kills her/himself after listening to
>bbong-jjak for two hours straight.  Yeah, I can take my own share
>of romantic songs, but fer cryin' out loud, can the lyricists do
>anything else?

Try 'Chung Tae-Chun and Park Un-Ok' . Their lyrics are very good.
I like 'Yoo Jae-Ha' a lot (both lyrics and music) even though almost of
all his songs are love songs.

Woncheol
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby, III
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:57:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.124059.1@uwovax.uwo.ca> 7007_5566@uwovax.uwo.ca (Henry E Chon) writes:
>Dear Abby,
>
>I have a female friend who I think needs help.  She has a male friend who has a
>girlfriend.  I guess the guy used to like my friend and once asked her out only
>to be turned down gently.  They say they are good friends but if you saw them
>together you would have no way of knowing that they were not going out.  The
>way they behave, the way they talk to each other, even I thought they were
>going out.  He calls my friend everyday ( I wonder if he calls his girlfriend
>every day and talk to her for a couple of hours. ) and they study together very
>often. 
>
>I told her she shouldn't be hanging out with him so much and that she should
>think how his girlfriend might feel but she doen't seem to care.  What do you
>think, Abby?

Dear Hank, 

What she does with her life isn't your problem.  In fact, from your posting,
it sounds like you are overly protective and you are about to hear the
words, "That's none of your [optional expletive] business."  Stop worrying
and go back to posting your phonecard number.  I hear James and Andrew
are still waiting.      



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jhshin@cc.gatech.edu ()
Subject: 14th presidential election -opening
Reply-To: jhshin@cc.gatech.edu ()
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:34:57 GMT


 the number of total voters : 29,422,658 
 those who voted actually   : 23,949,586    
 voting rate    :  81.4 %
 
the number of the opened    :     57,227  (0.2 %)

at the time of  92/12/18 21:08 in KST  (07:08 in EST)

               the invalid              : 1,218(  2.1%)

cand    rate     no   percent  graph  
   1     23,275  40.7 ==================== (YS)
   2     20,421  35.7 ==================   (DJ)
   3      8,352  14.6 =======              (JY)
   4      3,059   5.3 ===                  park, chanjong
   7        109   0.2                      lee, byungho
   6        229   0.4                      kim, oksun
   5        564   1.0 =                    baek, kiwan


- baram
From: bf479@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell Jackson II)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Latest IPSM Election Market (new developments)
Date: 18 Dec 1992 00:14:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bf479@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell Jackson II)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


"The Iowa Political Stock Market is a financial market in which traders
buy ans sell financial contracts representing candidates in [the 
Korean Presidential Election]."


.........................
***Volume is heavy in today's trading, with traders choosing their final
positions. This appears to have brought the prices in the Winner's
Market significantly more in line with the indications in the Vote
Share Market.
.........................

.........................
Market Expectations of Vote Share (Votes Share Market):
(average of most recent day where trade has taken place as of 5:50 CST 12/17)

           YSK:  39.0 %
           DJK:  35.8 %
           CYC:  25.0 %
           CJP:   4.4 %
    All Others:   2.2 %

Market Expections of Winner (Winners Market):
(average of most recent day where trade has taken place as of 5:50 CST 12/17)

           YSK:  50.0 %
           DJK:  40.9 %
           CYC:    .5 %
           CJP:    .0 %
    All Others:    .0 %
............................

I am not a representative of IPSM Korea (128.255.44.2)

Russell Jackson II
bf479@cleveland.freenet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: kim_nl@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Nina L Kim)
Subject: Grateful Dead
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:43:18 GMT

    Is there any deadhead in this net?


Nina kim kim_nl@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: lee@imel1.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (& Sang Hoon)
Subject: soc.culture.korean
Organization: Integrated Media Environment Experimental Lab., Kyoto Univ.
Distribution: soc.culture.korean
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:54:18 GMT

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From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Orange-jok
Organization: Alchemy International
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:30:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.041127.8323@news.cs.brandeis.edu> tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>Sorry, I think I misused a word 'uniformity'. What I was trying to say was
>'nation or social group oriented culture (instead of individual oriented
>culture' was a remnant of imperialism and militarism. But I don't
>have any number to support my idea, so I can't argue very seriously.

	Okay, but my argument still stands.  Ancient Korean culture was
chung-hyo (loyalty to king-respect for parents) oriented.  It was a
nation-oriented culture which found its microcosm in one's family and
one's school.

>But it does not mean that Chosun or Koryo had a 'nation or social group
>oriented culture'. I think you have to look at what kind of thought
>they have. I've never read any old books (any kinds) which emphasized
>group interest over individual interest, Have you? That's why
>I thought Silla, Koryo and Chosun didn't have a society oriented culture. 
>They didn't enforce to wear the same clothes in Sodang (school) after all.

	About these old books, go back and read the rest of my previous
posting.  I gave three possible explanations as to why there weren't
old books about...well, just about everything.

	Oh yeah, as far as clothes go, "they" didn't enforce anything because
they didn't need to.  Everyone wore the same clothes!  Fashion was not
one of the strong points in Korean culture.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: DJ for President
Originator: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:13:26 GMT

Header:




I hope DJ will be elected for President.  I am an ardent supporter of DJ.
I pray everyday for it.  I have seen several young and fresh candidacies 
like Jong Chan Lee or Chan Jong Park.  What I was suprised is that they
have no issue, no policy.  They just acclaim anti-two kims.  I know the time
when DJ stood as a candidate for the president election at first.  He had
a lot of fresh and wholesom issues.  At this point, what I can be sure of 
him is that he is the most excellent candidacy of all.
From: corvett@csa.bu.edu (Sungyeup Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: BBS
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:03:00 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Hi,

Can somebody send me address of korean BBS?

Thanks in advance !
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From: shin-jungshik@yale.edu (Jungshik Shin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Reading HAN.* news group
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:31:49 -0500
Organization: Yale University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

In article <1992Dec15.025701.12774@news2.cis.umn.edu> seungwoo@exa.cs.umn.edu (Seung-Woo Kim) writes:
>In article <Bz9oDz.Azw@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, ylee@norton.uwaterloo.ca (Yuri Lee) writes:
>|> In article <1992Dec13.100845.16793@news.duc.auburn.edu> kim@magneto.physics.auburn.edu (Han-jung Kim) writes:
>|> > In article <1992Dec9.005728.20044@worak.kaist.ac.kr> jycha@khsun.kyunghee.ac.kr (Jong-Yul Cha) writes:
>|> >>    han.archives
>|> >>    han.fun
>|> >>    han.games
>|> >>    han.hitel.fun
>|> 
>|> ....[ stuff deleted ]....
>|> 
>|> >>
>|> >>I wish everyone could make best use of it.
>|> >>
>|> >
>|> >After changing the NNTPSERVER, I could get those groupes. However
>|> >when I tried to read one of them, only lots of ^^^^^^^ ^^^^ were shown on 
>|> >screen.  
>|> >
>|> 
>|> What is a NNTPSERVER and how do I access these News Groups ?
>|> Give me some details.  
>|> 
>|> - Yuri
>|> 
>NNTPSERVER is a system variable. rtin looks for this variable and connects
>to the news server specified by this variable. What I found annoying,however,
>was that when it is connected to a different server other than your local 
>server, it screws up your existing .newsrc file. I ended up with  modifying the
>source code of rtin so that it uses .knewsrc file instead of .newsrc file.
>The other way around is to backup your .newsrc file before you connect to
>the news server at kum or worak. Otherwise, you will get tons of bogus
>newsgroup when you want to  connect to your local server again. I think
>the same goes with rn, too. 
>
>Seung-Woo Kim

   Here's   my simple shell script for Korean news  group. Put this shell
fine in any directory in search path and make it executable by  'chmod +x
krn'. (I call it 'krn').  Whenever you want to read Han.* groups, execute
'krn' instead of 'rn'.

#!/bin/sh
NNTPSERVER=worak.kaist.ac.kr.
NEWSRC=$HOME/.knewsrc     #.knewsrc contains  only han.* group.
SAVEDIR=$HOME/News/hangul  #Save directory for Hangul  News
export NNTPSERVER NEWSRC SAVEDIR
case "$1" in               # Replace these 4lines by 'rn -q'
-k) rn -q;;                # if you always read News on Hnagul Term. 
*)  rn -q|hcode -kr;;      # such as IYAGI,HANTERM.
esac

 If you use news reader other than 'rn', insert the name of your news
reader(e.g. tin ) in place of 'rn -q'.

 Or you may put this line in '.login','.cshrc'(for CSH) or '.tcshrc' for
TCSH and type krn    to read Han.* groups after beginning new shell.

alias krn 'setenv NNTPSERVER worak.kaist.ac.kr.;setenv NEWSRC ~/.knewsrc;rn -q'

  Jungshik Shin
From: phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Orange-jok
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:16:26 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Dec13.220914.4144@news.cs.brandeis.edu> tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>I think that the uniformity in Korean culture is the worst left-over
>of Japanese imperialism and following authoritarian goverments such as
>Konghwa Party's and Minja's. 

When I read a response like this, I wonder if there was any culture at all
in Korea before the Japanese occupation.

>I've never read any old Korean novel which praised the sacrifice of
>individual for the nation or any social group, though I read lots
>of novels which praise individual success or sacrifice for another
>individual (usually for parents or children).

I never thought about it that way.  But I have notice practically all fairy
tales involve some kind of super-natural power, or a help of someone more
powerful to get out of the trouble.  Heung-bu-nol-bu is one.
Shim-chung-jun, Chun-hyang-jun, the story of two brother-sister who get
saved by rope from heaven, on and on.  No one fights out of the situation.
Every single one of them is saved by someone else.  Maybe this mentality
explains the popularity of Christianity in Korea.  Even the national anthem
starts with being protected by some higher entity...

James Choi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: lee@imel1.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (& Sang Hoon)
Subject: Latest expectation ?
Organization: Integrated Media Environment Experimental Lab., Kyoto Univ.
Distribution: soc.culture.korean
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:57:41 GMT

 Hellow Friends in Korea
 If anyone in korea knows about the latest expectation of vote share,
 let's know too. Please post it...
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From: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: Re: Re: DJ for President -- 2
Originator: swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:31:59 GMT

hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim) writes:

>usenet@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Usenet poster) writes:
>>of them and let him do great jobs for my country.  Please don't post the 

>I'd be alot more interested in the elections if they allowed absentee
>ballots for students studying abroad. Just my 2 cents worth of nit
>picking and complaining but do you remember DJ's position on tax
>reform(kum-yung-sil-myung-je) several years ago when people were
>pushing for it and before YS Kim joined Roh? Correct me if I'm wrong, 

>-Han Kim


What I want to ask you is :

1) Who do you want vote for?  If you don't like anybody, are you going to
   give up the vote?

2) If you are going to vote for someone, What is the reason?

3) What is your expactation for next president ?
From: U32756@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: test
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:47:01 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

This is reply test
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung)
Subject: Re: Behavior.
Organization: Alchemy International
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:23:53 GMT

tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu wrote:
> >
> >	Hmm, here's match for the perverted James:)
> >
> >	Wasn't this supposed to be like maintaining more than one
> >	girl/boy friends instead of your wild-thinking of
> >	three-or-more-some into the same bed-room at the same time.
> 
> What??? What do you mean by saying three-or-more into the same 
> bed room??? You mean they sleep together??? Hmm, I've never thought of that.

	No, of course not.  They don't sleep together, they just take out
a room with three beds and they even sleep with all of their clothes on.  :)

> 
> Well, I think I'm too conservative (or traditional).

	Or you are not too imaginative.  Picture this if you will, Cindy
Crawford, Kim Wan-Sun and me in the same bedroom, and...  Oh, read the
rest on the next issue of Playboy.

Brian "Caffeine does this to my mind" Chung

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Behavior.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 19:22:50 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1992Dec12.190301.15397@news.cs.brandeis.edu> tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>>>	Multipartner (1 year)    :     21%   (     speechless          )
>...
>More radical??? Hmm, I thought this was very schocking number.
>(21% have multiple sexual partner at the same time!).

	Hmm, here's match for the perverted James:)

	Wasn't this supposed to be like maintaining more than one
	girl/boy friends instead of your wild-thinking of
	three-or-more-some into the same bed-room at the same time.

	If so, depending on the age group, it doesn't took that
	shocking.
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