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From: jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper)
Subject: Re: SPLASH!!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:29:57 GMT

Lizzie loved to watch the toilet flush when she
was a kitten--she'd walk around on the toilet seat 
watching the action.  Well, one day she slipped and
fell in while the water was still being flushed out.  
Luckily, she managed to hold on to the toilet 
seat with her front paws, and also luckily, my mother
happened to be in the bathroom at that moment and
scooped her out.  She hasn't been interested in toilets
flushing since.
--
Jean L. Cooper    (BITNET: JLC5F@virginia.edu   CIS: 70253,1114)
"The true University of these days is a Collection of Books." 
                                           --Carlyle                        
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Newell)
Subject: Re: Kitty with Cold Getting Spayed - NERVOUS!
Organization: Denver, Colorado
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:44:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.192538.24191@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> jlevy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (janet.s.levy) writes:
>
>So anyway tomorrow she is finally scheduled to be spayed.  I'm
>biting my nails.  I have her on antibiotics as a safety measure.
>I love that little sweetie pie.  If anyone else out there has
>time to say a tiny prayer for Pumpkin, we both appreciate it.
>I hope in a couple of days I'll be laughing at myself for my
>paranoia.
>
>Here's hopin' and prayin',
>
>Janet Levy
>jsl@ihlpm.ATT.COM


Janet,

I know what you are going through, and I do hope that everything
will be ok.  I have a little Calico (Heidi) who was also rescued
from a farm.  She has severe balance problems (ie she can't walk
without falling over occasionally, wobbles, walks funny, eats
funny) but is otherwise a normal kitty.  I too love her dearly,
and don't know what I would do if something ever happened to her.
She recently turned 1 year old, and I have already had her sister
spayed.  I dread the day that she goes into heat, because I just
don't know if her little body can take the stress of surgery.  I
just pray that because she seems to be a little undeveloped, that
she will not go into heat.

I will say a little prayer for your kitty, I am sure everything
will turn out fine.

All our best,

Cindy, Quinn, Betsy, and Heidi

-- 
 Cindy Camp - Usual disclaimers apply   |  Just waiting for a good quote
 Martin Marietta  (303)977-9804 	|  or lyric right now.
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From: mverman@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Dry Food
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:57:00 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <1992Sep9.195004.58589@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi) writes:
> Hi,
>   My sister says that one of my cats, Bandit, is fat because I feed him dry
>   food.
>   She claims that the dry food blows up in his stomach when he drinks his
>   water.
>   Any ideas on this notion?
>   thanks,
>   peace,
>   laura
> 
> 
>   

With all due respect to the parties involved, 
Nonsense!

Unless the cat has a medical problem causing either obesity or swelling,
Bandit is fat because he has taken in more calories than he could expend.

Good luck restricting his intake and/or increasing his energy expenditure.
It's tough, but worth it.

... shu
From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: OH NO!!!
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:10:55 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


That made my morning.  In the latest issue of Cat Fancy there is a story 
about a husband and wife going to the shelter.  She sees a cat that doens't
have much time left, and askes her husband if they can save the cats life.
He tells her they already have enough, but she gets the cat on the condition
that she names it Promise NoMore.  This was so that she would always remenber
that the tenth cat was Promis No More and she would keep her word.  The next
one was named Broken Promise.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER)
Subject: Re: Cat Peeing
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Keywords: Pee
Reply-To: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com
Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
Distribution:  usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:11:45 GMT

> 
>Fortunately these cats are "ex wild cats", and don't use kitty litter.  They
>go outside and do it in the dirt.  It's great, we NEVER have to bother
>with Kitty litter.

Sounds to me like kitty wants a litter box inside because she doesn't
always want to go outside to do her business.





Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: maverick@topgun.b29.ingr.com (Mike Sorrelle)
Subject: Ice cubes in water bowl
Reply-To: maverick@topgun.b29.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Dullsville (as in Huntsville), AL
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:28:00 GMT

Someone posted an amusing story a while ago about putting ice cubes
in Kitty's water bowl, so I thought I would try it on Buttons, my 
10-week-old grey tabby.

It really was pretty funny! (sorry, Buttons)
Anyway, he watched the ice cube swirl around for a little bit, then he
raised his paw and swatted the cube.  [Aaiiee, I got my paw wet!]
Well, he shook his paw, trying to sling the water off, but didn't lose
interest in the ice cube.  He watched the cube a little more, then
swatted it again.  [Darn, I got my paw wet again!]
Another round of paw-shaking, then he decided he didn't like playing
with that ice cube anymore, and sauntered off.

I still snicker thinking about it.
I gave him an extra helping of tuna after that....
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ehp@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU ("Didi Pancake")
Subject: Re: Help, I need some advice!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:10:04 GMT

In article <5018@sumax.seattleu.edu> sstover@sumax.seattleu.edu (Maven o'Mirth) writes:
>discovered that worked was hissing at him.  Of course, now he is
>thoroughly convinced that I am mom*Cat*.  The hiss is not just an airy
>sound, though, but a "from-the-throat" agressive sound.  Makes him stop
>*anything* he is doing and wait for further instructions.  Occasionally I
>have to come and collect him from someplace he doesn't belong (the piano,
>the kitchen counter, etc) because of this "freeze" reaction, but it's
>pretty effective!  And if I did get that from someone on the net-- thanks,
>whoever you are!
>

You're welcome...glad to know it works on other peoples critters. My
kitties usually didn't freeze when I hissed, but they sure did bail off
the bed quickly when I used it to stop WW3 practice on top of my toes!

--
|  Didi Pancake                 |   Order is half of life...            |
|  ehp@virginia.edu             |      ...the other half is more fun!   |
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|  All usual disclaimers apply  |                    --German Proverb   |
From: mverman@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: bathtubs
Date: 4 Sep 92 10:45:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: msus1.1992Sep4.164514.1123
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <186vg8INNhbi@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cb771@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (S. Macfarland) writes:
> 
> Lately my 4.5 month old long hair tuxedo has developed some
> kind of bathtub fetish. Any time I want to take a shower or
> bath, I have to first remove an assortment of milk bottle
> caps, spongy balls, socks, etc from the tub, and often the
> kitten himself. Anyone else experienced this? He's the first
> kitten I've had with this behavior!
>
From: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Raley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat-compatible plants (FAQ?)
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:39:05 GMT
Reply-To: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Raley)
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <67741@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt1167b@prism.gatech.EDU (Christie
Shackelford) writes:
|>I had a couple of spiny cactus plants inside with the cats,
|>and I recently moved them outside instead.  I don't know how
|>harmful it would be, but my kitten Dixie kept trying to play  
|>with them and came close (too close!) to sticking her eyes,
|>mouth, butt, etc..  She also tried to bite them, but I would
|>intervene.  I got worried that she would manage to get into
|>serious trouble some day, and that I wouldn't be around to
|>bail her out.
|>
|>Maybe an adult cat can handle it (or take a hint).  Fermi
|>(3.5 years) isn't even slightly interested in cactus plants.
|>But then again, she isn't interested in most non-edible or 
|>non-moving objects.
|>
|>-- 
|>Christie Shackelford
|>gt1167b@prism.gatech.edu
|>Meow!
                  

I seem to recall reading that cactus plants (cacti?) are poisonous
to cats if they eat them. Of course, who would want to bite something
so spiny? 

Can anybody else comment on this? I've avoided cacti for this reason.

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu (Cheryl Dragel)
Subject: More on cat-proofing kitchens...
Originator: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:34:03 GMT

A year or two ago, while my spouse and I were getting ready
for work, we heard a loud *CRASH* come from the kitchen.
We ran in to find Pyewacket, our part-Siamese black DSH,
sitting in a cereal bowl in the kitchen cabinet above
the counter!  Scattered on the counter and floor were
the remains of three other cereal bowls, broken to bits.

Prior to this incident, Wacky had been playing around with
the cabinet door -- opening it with her paws and nose.  We
should've known it was only a matter of time until she
jumped in there herself.  We bought and installed some of
those magnetic cabinet locks, and this has stopped the 
problem completely.  These are really heavy-duty locks --
sometimes, we can barely open them ourselves, so we're
pretty sure there's no danger of the cats doing so.

Somewhat mysteriously, the cats have never played around
with the lower kitchen cabinets (the ones just above the
floor).
Organization: Electrical & Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:35:17 -0400 
From: Meg Alison Veily <mv0t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: What we say; what cats hear
	<1992Sep10.170116.9116@auto-trol.com>

A good way to tell if your cat recognizes words is to change the tone of
your voice. Dogs, at least, respond to tone as well as words. My cat
does recognize several words (such as brush and treat), because she
perks up even if I say them in a normal speaking voice. Most of the
time, though, it is my tone of voice which indicates my attitude, and I
get the same reaction from her if I use the same tone of voice,
independent of the words I actually say.

-Meg
From: ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa N.T. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Sachia doesn't like bare skin
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:59:09 GMT
Organization: Ailanthus Project

ericj@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Eric Jacobsen) writes:

> In article <4980@calmasd.Prime.COM> mas@calmasd.Prime.COM (Marisa SorBello) w
>
>    One more thing I should have added about Sachia's
>    disdain for bare skin...
>
>    She has no objection to curling up on Peter's legs when he's
>    wearing shorts.  It may be because he's furry, too.
>
> I have fairly fuzzy legs, and our cat won't sit on my lap unless it's
> covered. She doesn't paw much so I don't think she's worried about that.
> Why she won't park on bare skin is a mystery, but our cat is like this
> also.

my cats want nothing to do with bare skin, but i had attributed that to
training.  i dislike being scratched, so whenver they scratch or bite me, i
make very unhappy noises.  now they don't scratch or bite, and want nothing to
do with bare flesh...

                                          -ailsa

p.s. jim, my housemate, is very very furry, and they won't touch his bare skin
either....

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From: mverman@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Kitty with Cold Getting Spayed - NERVOUS!
Date: 15 Sep 92 00:49:08 -0600
Distribution: na
Organization: Minnesota State University System

>...already had her sister
> spayed.  I dread the day that she goes into heat, because I just
> don't know if her little body can take the stress of surgery.  

Cindy, do you mean that you would have her neutered when she goes into
heat?

"... aAn adult female should never, unless it is vital, be spayed when
in season, as her reproductive organs are enlarged and active, and there is a
greater chance of complications."  Wright and Walters, The Book of the Cat,
1980.

Some vets will not spay at this time unless there is a medical indication
for it.  Check with your vet.

> I just pray that because she seems to be a little undeveloped, that
> she will not go into heat.

What does the vet say?   Would you be willing to wait out her first heat
and THEN obtain the procedure?

Best of luck with your kitties,

... Shu
From: maurercj@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Mice, Cats and choking
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:55:35 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati


  About six months ago my mother told me about a technique to save a 
cat from choking which she read in a book.  The basic idea was swinging
the cat in a half circle (like you can do with pails of water and the 
water stays in the pail)...you were supposed to hold the cat securely
from underneath with the head away from your body.  I thought she was 
crazy when she told me this but, over this past weekend I was given 
quite a scare when my cat caught herself a mouse.  It was still alive 
and I was trying to get her lead on (she had a harness on) to go outside 
with it, she droped it and recaught it face forward and I guess the mouse 
started moving forward because suddenly all I seen was a tail and my 
cat was making a very faint wheezing sound and wasn't moving at all. 
Suddenly I remembered (in the mist of panic) that thing my mother told me
so, I tryed it and it worked. THANKFULLY!!!  I just wanted to tell people
that as a last resort this crazy sounding technique could save your cats
life.

Cathy 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: meyer@uuisis.isis.org (Katherine Meyer)
Subject: Re: bathtubs
Organization: International Shared Information Service (Ottawa)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 00:27:14 GMT



> kitten himself. Anyone else experienced this? He's the first
> kitten I've had with this behavior!
> 
No but I have two 5 month old "Tuxedo" cats who like to sit in the Kitchen
sink...even if there's a couple of inches of water in it.  They also like to
fish in glasses of water that may be standing around.  The other week they
fished some stocks of parsley out of the water.  

They love to carry all sorts of things (toys) around... to the basement and 
back upstairs again ... wherever.  They even have brought a small carpet
from the back hall into the family room!!!!

Katherine
MEYER@UUISIS.ISIS.ORG
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: christin@cae.wisc.edu (Christine Haas)
Subject: LIST OF FERRET ORGANIZATIONS
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:05:36 CDT

Hi all,

I have a question for you.

Does anyone have a list of all the ferret organizations
out there?  I have heard of a few and would like to join,
but I need addresses.

Also, does anyone know if there is an organization in 
Wisconsin??  I know there is a shelter in Milwaukee.

Thanks.

Chris.
From: alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (Amy Young Leith)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Rabbits and eye sight
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:57:23 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <mstrange.715630048@cunews> mstrange@alfred.carleton.ca (N E N Strangelove) writes:
>I thought I'd turn to my rec.pets friends for yet more rabbit
>advice... 
>
>I've often wonder how far\near rabbits can see. I know it seems that
>Barley has very poor eyesight, only seeing things that are very close
>[approx. 1' away] to her. Are all rabbits the same? Or is Barley just
>different?

Hey, I noticed that as well.  When we first got Dink, we'd have to put
something RIGHT in front of him for him to see that it was food, etc.
But now he seems much better, although not great, however I imagine
his responses are based more on OUR actions than his visual
interpretations.  He's never bumped into things on a regular basis, so
I imagine he can *see* but it must not be very well... 

amy
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Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: blaraway@geppetto.encore.com (Brad Laraway)
Subject: ferret 9 lives ?
Keywords: ferret
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:44:46 GMT

	Do ferrets have nine lives?  My ferret Sebastian does!
	Saturday night he found a small hole in my sisters screaned
	pourch. Third floor Condo.  He was missing for almost tweeve
	hours.  Found him in the laundery room un harmed and hungry.

	Took him to the vet. this morning and got a clean bill of 
	health.  Thank God or who ever watched over him.  Any one
	out there have any stories like this.  Only happy endings
	please.

	Brad.

	Owned by Sabastian and Mako
From: mverman@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Toilet training cats
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:53:19 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <18h60pINN819@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, be824@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steve Selick) writes:
> 
> I have a 1.5 year old male cat that I would like to toilet train. Is 
> this possible? How is it done? If there is a FAQ on this, please e-
> mail it to me.
> Thanks,

> Steve
This was discussed in rec.pets.cats within the past week or so.  Perhaps it was
in the FAQ, which was posted during this time.  Check rec.pets.cats directory,
perhaps around sept 1?

...shu
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: River Otters?
From: bproden@ualr.edu
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:07:33 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

In article <16819@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, nathan@charles.ucdavis.edu (Nathan Rollins) writes:
> 
>   Hi, I was just wondering something... I've met several people who have
> had river otters as pets (none had them at the time I knew them, however)
> and yet I'd always thought that otters were under some sort of wild
> animal protection act... Where did these people get otters? Were they
> legal? Are they legal in California and if so where could I look into
> getting one?
> 
>  (Yes I know they are a hell of a lot of work.... probably twice as much
> as ferrets, at least...)
> 
> The people in question weren't forest rangers or anything like that... 
> just ordinary folks.  What's the story?
> 
>  _Otter (Not Nathan Rollins, but his SO)

As far as I know, they are not protected nationally (they may be in some states
where the population has dropped).  I plan on having a couple of river otters
when I get to build my ranch house (with an interior courtyard and fountain
where the otters could play).

If you get an otter, GET TWO!!! They are very playful animals and thrive on
contact, from what I have read and heard.  Unless you can spend 12 hours a day
with your otter, he'll need a friend.  Of course, if you have a male/female
pair, you'll either need to get a USDA exotic animal breeder license or have
them fixed.

An exotic animal breeder here in Arkansas told me he had a couple of otters
coming in at $1200 each!!  Another exotic animal owner (she has kept foxes and
currently has a coyote as a house dog) said she had seen them for $300-$400.

Make sure they have a pool of some sort.  After all, they are swimmers.  It
probably wouldn't hurt to keep the pond stocked with small fish as snacks.  The
zoo near here feeds their otters something that looks like a ball of hamburger
meat, but I'm sure it has all kinds of vitamins added.

Brian P. Roden
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: jim@thinkage.on.ca (James Alan Gardner)
Subject: Re: Rabbits and eye sight
Organization: Thinkage Ltd.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:14:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.195733.24487@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Amy Young Leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>In article <mstrange.715630048@cunews> mstrange@alfred.carleton.ca (N E N Strangelove) writes:
>>I've often wonder how far\near rabbits can see. I know it seems that
>>Barley has very poor eyesight, only seeing things that are very close
>>[approx. 1' away] to her. Are all rabbits the same? Or is Barley just
>>different?
>
>Hey, I noticed that as well.  When we first got Dink, we'd have to put
>something RIGHT in front of him for him to see that it was food, etc.
>But now he seems much better, although not great, however I imagine
>his responses are based more on OUR actions than his visual
>interpretations.  He's never bumped into things on a regular basis, so
>I imagine he can *see* but it must not be very well... 

Rabbits don't have very good eyesight, but they can see farther
than that.  My rabbits can recognize me from several paces away
and they see sudden movements even farther off.  It's just that
rabbits don't use their eyes for a lot of things human do.  For
example, they find food by smell, not sight.  If you put a treat
down on the floor, pointing to it won't do any good.  You just
have to let them snuffle around to find it on their own.

		Jim Gardner, Thinkage Ltd.
From: phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Iguana FAQs Wanted!
Date: 5 Sep 92 10:33:14 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I'm seriously considering getting an Iguana as a pet.  My question is: Are they
good pets? What are their requirements?
The local pet store has them for $29...should I look for a better price?
I would also appreciate it if someone would recommend a good book.

Thanks!
Brooke