HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: weaver@castor (Mike Weaver)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: TARANTULA HUNGER STRIKE
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:49:10 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia

In article <92286.190225SAF108@psuvm.psu.edu> SAF108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
[Cilean Spider not eating deleted]
>                                     THANX STEVE


How's his abdomen look?
Is is full and round, or shrivled and wrinkled?

If it is full and round, worry not o fearless spider owner. He's in good health
and will eat when he is ready. 

If shrivled, check into conditional problems. ie is he too hot/cold. I keep
mine a little above room temp. Not much.
You can try to tempt him to eat by tieing a piece of meat (small) to a thread.
Lower the thread into the cage and drag it about. He just may eat it. If he
takes it, just drop the thread and let him do his business.


E-mail me if you have any questions.

Good Luck!
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From: mds5597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Cage mates...
Reply-To: mds5597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:25:55 GMT

	I thought that it was dangerous to keep more then one snake in a cage
at a time. What do you do when you feed them?

                                               
                                                      Treky and Tabatha
							    N8VFZ

P.S.
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From: hall@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Michael Hall)
Subject: Re: BIG LIZARD as a "lap dog"?
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:32:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.133531.1@alien.gici.com> laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut) writes:
>
>One of the pets I've always wanted to have was a lizard, but the lizards
>I've seen in various pet stores tend to small things that are maybe six inches
>or less in length.
>
>This will likely sound either uninformed, amusing, or "you're off your
>rocker!," but I guess the image I had drawn in my imagination was an animal
>that was at least two feet long (not including the tail), which you could
>even "pet," perhaps to the point of it being a type of "lap dog."
>
>Does such a critter exist?  Or am I off my rocker?

You obviously want one of the larger monitor lizards, perhaps a
nile monitor.  ;-)  (Heh, heh, heh.  Reminds me of Spock's line in
Star Trek, something like, "On Vulcan, the ``kitty cats'' have 6 inch
fangs.")

But seriously, an iguana, when tame, would seem to fit your bill.  You
can buy it as a small thing six inches or less in length, but it will
grow to be quite large, but not so large that you couldn't have it
on your lap or carry it draped over your shoulder.

-- 
Michael Hall            \
NASA Ames Research Center\  "Tropicana... Atlantic City in the desert"
hall@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov \  - ad slogan proposed by Michael Buck

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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Vitamin Supplements?
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:04:07 GMT
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens

The main difference between reptiles and humans is that their vitamin D
is different (D2 versus D3, I think).  On this point, reptiles are the
same as birds, so vitamins designed for birds would do.  Tetra makes
a special vitamin supplement for reptiles ("Reptovit" or something like
that) which I've been using occasionally with great success... if a
reptile seems to be losing its appetite, I give it some vitamins.

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From: pals@ipact.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Baby snow corn (was Re: 1 of the 1001 ...)
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:57:56 CDT
Organization: IPACT, Valparaiso IN

In article <1992Oct5.125459.7675@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, 
mds5597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:

>[baby corn snake] 
> 	Should I be worried if she allways tries to get out of my hand? She
> does seem fairly scared still....how long should her fear last? Is this
> normal for a baby? I am holding her everyday (for about 10 min)
>.....good or bad?

Moving about when being held is generally a sign of good health - no
worries there.  Baby corns do tend to be more skittish than adults.
Holding the snake daily is fine, but not right after eating (as has
been pointed out).  I usually leave my corn alone for a couple of days
after it eats.

One more point.  Baby corns should have access to temperatures
in the 80 - 90 F range.  If the room is cooler, the vivarium needs
a heated area.

-- 
Randy Pals                |pals@ipact.com
IPACT, Inc.               |
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From: pingleto@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Mike Pingleton)
Subject: Rodentia
Originator: pingleto@mars.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:16:54 GMT

All this talk of dispatching rodentia brings to mind a favorite technique
and an amusing anecdote.  A few years ago, when my buddy and I were into
big time herpetoculture, we would process rats and mice in Harry's basement.
Harry had a large stainless steel sink down there, with a nice rolled edge,
perfect for sending rats to their reward.  The method:  grab the rat firmly
by the tail, and swing it in a downward arc, catching the neck on the edge
of the sink.  The neck snaps fairly easily in this manner.  Then we would
toss the rats into the sink prior to bagging.

On one such occasion we had a couple of herp-type friends over, shooting 
the breeze as Harry and I took turns swinging rats.  After maybe fifty
rats had piled up in the sink, it was time to stop and stuff them into
ziploc bags.  By now, the metallic tang of all those dead rats made it
rather difficult to take a deep breath (cliche: the smell of death was in
the air), and our two friends, who were new to this procedure, were looking
a bit woozy.  We stuffed six rats to a bag, and hadn't sealed them up yet.
When one of the guys asked why, I told him that since Harry and I had 
killed all the rats, it was their job to suck all the air out of the bags
prior to sealing them up.

I had heard of people turning pale and green, and this was my chance to see
it happen...

Mike "I never inhaled" Pingleton
From: treefrog@bass.bu.edu (susan landsman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: reptile breeding/raising
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:20:48 GMT
Reply-To: treefrog@bass.bu.edu (susan landsman)
Organization: Boston University

-------------------------------------

I'm writing an article (for the general public) on reptile breeding and raising.  I'm looking for avid reptile enthusiasts who wouldn't mind taking a few
minutes to answer a few questions for me, namely:
1) How did you get into this?
2) What in particular do you enjoy about reptiles?
3) Do you have any good anecdotes?
4) Can anyone tell me how different reptiles actually breed, and
   has anyone watched this, & could give me a description?

If there's anyone in the Boston area who'd be willing to let me come
see their pets, I'd really appreciate it.  Thanks in advance!

Also, someone mentioned something about an iguana FAQ list.  If that was ever
dug up, could someone tell me where to get a hold of it?  I have 2 small
iguanas, and they seem to like some baby food on their veggies.  I've only
tried squash flavor, though.

--Sue Landsman (treefrog@bass.bu.edu)










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From: browning@willard.nas.nasa.gov (David S. Browning)
Subject: Tofu O.K. for Iguanas?
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 18:28:48 GMT
Reply-To: browning@willard.nas.nasa.gov

My iguanas seem to enjoy tofu (firm variety).  Does anyone know the
Calcium content?  The Calcium/Phosphorus ratio?

-- David

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From: ab3n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alexander Bernard Brands)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: breeding box turtles
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:46:02 GMT
Organization: Senior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Does anyone have experience with or know
anything about breeding box turtles indoors?
I have a female and would like to get her a boyfriend
if it's possible to breed them.
    -Alex
From: bzandrew@bbs1984.chi.il.us (Bill Zandrew)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: sneezing rep
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:23:01 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization

Gee, I almost forgot.  Iguanas have a habit of snorting salt out of their
noses.  I have to clean the tank every week or so!
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From: mds5597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Cage mate for a Boa?
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:42:18 GMT
Reply-To: mds5597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

>cage for my Boa (Columbian "Red-Tail") who is only about 4 ft long.
>The Cage itself is 3.5 ft wide, 5ft long, and just under 3ft tall.
>It's all wood with a hinged glass door.  Heat is supplied during the
>day by a couple of lights, and at night by a "pig-blanket".  

	I have a 29 gal tank. There are two dry heating elements under the tank
and a florecent light that is on during the day. I have the thermometer on the
coldest part of the tank and it says 60-70 degrees. Now I have put the
thermometer on the heating elements and it says 82, which is why she is allways
there(Albino corn). She does not move around all that much but if I heated that
dead space would she move around more? How could I heat the dead space up?

                                               
                                                      Treky and Tabatha
							    N8VFZ

P.S.
----
Live long and prosper.
From: nivek@terapin.com (Kevin Bierl)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: BIG LIZARD as a "lap dog"?
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:08:06 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Oct13.133531.1@alien.gici.com>, laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut)
writes:
>
>One of the pets I've always wanted to have was a lizard, but the lizards
>I've seen in various pet stores tend to small things that are maybe six inches
>or less in length.
>
>This will likely sound either uninformed, amusing, or "you're off your
>rocker!," but I guess the image I had drawn in my imagination was an animal
>that was at least two feet long (not including the tail), which you could
>even "pet," perhaps to the point of it being a type of "lap dog."
>
>Does such a critter exist?  Or am I off my rocker?
>
>
>-- 
>Bill Laut                      Internet:  laut@alien.gici.com
>Gull Island Consultants, Inc.  Phone:     (616) 780-3321
>Muskegon, MI  49440            >> "Usual disclaimers, apply within" <<
Get a Bearded Dragon. My wife (who is legaly blind) sit for hours holding,
petting, and cuddling ours. They get up to about 3 feet (including tale). They
are rather easy to take care of. And REALLY docile. The demo that the salesman
used to show me how mellow these guys are was: He took a young adult, put him
on the ground, then stomped his foot about 6 inches away from the lizards head.
The lizard didn't move an inch. As for mine he is a perfect pet. But as with
all herps, the more you hold them, the more tame they become.

Hope this helps,
         Nivek@terapin.com
From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Finding lost herps
Summary: Bedroom closet theory of newt behavior
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:29:54 GMT
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct15.111128.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsjdj1@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
>This brought to mind something I hadn't thought of in a while.  When I was
>young I had a newt in an aquarium without a lid, thinking there was no way
>it could climb the glass.  After having it for some two or three months I 
>came home one day to find it was gone, and after tearing apart the living
>room and adjoining kitchen it was nowhere to be found.
>
>About three years later we moved and found him "mummified" in the corner of
>a bedroom closet about seventy feet from the 4' tall bookshelf where the 
>aquarium had been.

My daughter has had the same experience.  Bedroom closet, corner.

I think the crack under the closet looks like a good hiding place, and,
once inside, the newt finds it big and looks for another hiding place
within it.

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Subject: Re: ewborn feeding
From: karen@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:24:50 GMT
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS

what happened to all the files that used to be in rec.pets.herp???
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Thursday, 8 Oct 1992 02:25:09 EST
From: <COP80208@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: Re: Another question about mice:
 <1992Oct2.202927.21053@progress.com>


Me too!
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From: meh0570@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.E. Herman)
Subject: Re: Terrible problem feeding the little bugger....
Originator: meh0570@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:41:45 GMT

I noticed that somone advised that we not feed snakes something bigger
than the snakes girth.

Ive done that many times, a snake can eat things bigger than it, due 
to the elasticy (sic) of its skin.
    
JC
From: Jack.Honeycutt@f52.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Honeycutt)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.herp
Subject: A tale of two Herp book orders...
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:36:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: therose.719183111.AA00000

Hello Dave!

13 Oct 92, Dave Ruska writes to All:

 DR> Having had two very different experiences in ordering HERP books
 DR> mailorder, I thought I would share them with the net. Realize that these
 DR> are ONE person's experiences with one book order per outfit. Your
mileage
 DR> may vary...

 DR>   You can probably guess who I'll buy my next order of books (and
 DR> other Herp supplies) from (and it's NOT the PET BOOK SHOP!!!)

David this is good information we just can not get anywhere else.  Thanks for
a GREAT post.

Jack
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From: mds5597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Feeding problems...
Reply-To: mds5597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:31:05 GMT

	Well, I was starting to freak out last friday because I could not get
the Albino corn to eat anything and it had been 11 days then. I was leaving for
the weekend and was real worried that I would come back to find the snake dead.
Well I got home Sunday, she was not dead. As a matter a fact, she shedded! Now
I do not know everything about snakes, but I do know that when they are about
to shed they don't want to eat! So I went to get a pinky and in 5 minutes it
was history! Well that's snakes for you!
                                               
                                                      Treky and Tabatha
							    N8VFZ

P.S.
----
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From: dlb5404@tamsun.tamu.edu (Daryl Biberdorf)
Subject: Komodo Dragon babies!
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:38:10 GMT

    
A news article on one of the usa-today groups indicates that *thirteen*
baby Komodo dragons have hatched at the National Zoo in Washinton, DC,
the first time ever outside Indonesia.  Two eggs have yet to hatch.

Congratulations to that zoo team responsible (not to mention the
outstanding performance by the parents)!

Daryl
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From: 6845400@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re:  Another RAt lover
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 20:15:58 GMT

My daughter has a pet RAt, but I consider it mine. We purchased the female
rat at a pet store for $4.98, we live in San Jose, Ca.  Jezabel is her name,
she is the cutest, sweetest, most loveable little thing ever, She is a black
hooded rat.I just took her to the Vet's the other day because she was not
acting right, not eating as much as usual, not as active, would just lay on
on the bottom of her cage, I was mentally preparing myself to the fact that
I was going to have to put her too sleep.  She is 1 year and ten months old,
I have had another rat that lived to be 4 years old, so I didn't feel that
she is an "old" rat.  Well, the Vet said she did not have the tumors that rats
seem to get in advanced age, but probably is suffering from arthritis, she (the
Vet) had another vet look at Jezabel (the next vet has a lot of experience with
rodents) he came up with the same diagnosis.  He made up a mixture of vitamins,
an antibotic, and cortizone to be given to Jezabel every 12 hours, it has only
been two days but the difference is quite noticeable.  So we still have the
pleasure of a darling pet for awhile longer.

Kathy and Jennie (the real owner)
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From: dschlow@epas.utoronto.ca (Deborah Schlow)
Subject: Re: Thanks from my Hands
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 03:21:11 GMT
Followup-To: Thanks from my Hands.
Summary: oops!
Keywords: Ferret Newsletter

Sorry, I mean the Ferret Mailing List, not the Ferret Newsletter (It
would be great if there was a ferret newsletter.) Reiterated pleas for
more information. Thanks.
From: Jim_Sollows@mindlink.bc.ca (Jim Sollows)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Bunny chewing
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:03:40 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

>Of course you know that bunnies like to gnaw to keep their teeth
>under control.  There are gnaw blocks for cages.  Get those and
>that'll keep'em satisfied for at bit.
>Now someone said,"Potty them, and house train them."
>YOu'll be one lucky cotton tail lover if you succeed.  It has
>been known to happen, but you'll never get it to stop the
>gnawing.  For rabbits, like cats, like to destroy furniture.
>In short, it's ok to have your bunny out of his-her box
>when unattended, but not for too long.  You can let it raom
>the house if you keep an eye on it.  Most people who have
>indoor bunnies build a very large box for it, so that it can
>have it's space.  If you don't give a flip about your
>furniture than go for it, and let the little termite go!

Sorry to hear you have had such a problem with your bun. Ours has the
run of the house and she is fully house broken. She NEVER chews the
furniture and is completely potty trained. This is our second bun
and we had similar success with our first so training them is not
so much a matter of luck as it is persistance.
From: falcore@gatecom.UUCP (Carolyn C. Doss L.V.T.)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Inputs needed on armadillos and opossums
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:05:44 EDT
Organization: Gateway Communication Inc.

Hi There,
        I do wildlife rehab and have beem fairly successful at rearing 
orphaned opossums ...if you would like more info please contact me via 
private email and I will be happy to help out .
             Carolyn C.Doss L.V.T.   <falcore>

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From: "karen mcmurray" <karen.mcmurray@canrem.com>
Subject: thanks from my hands
Reply-To: "karen mcmurray" <karen.mcmurray@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:45:16 EST


RR=Robert Rome

RR>Thanks to those who sent advice about my biting ferret.

How old is he?  He *might* grow out of it.  Although ferrets hit full
size at about four months and can be bred at 6-12 months, we noticed
distinct changes in behaviour in our two up to about 1.5 years.  In the
extra time they learned better "problem-solving" skills plus some manners!

Our 2-year-old ferret (Wasabi -- named for her bite!) used to announce her
presence with a nip on my foot or ankle, particularly if she thought I was
ignoring her (like oh, say, when I was putting in my contact lenses).  I
took to yelling at her (and sometimes swatting her) to let her know I was
upset.  I eventually found that it helped to talk to her and use her name
lots when I was busy and she was underfoot.  She has definately become much
more civilized this past summer, even when playing.

RR>What are the best ways to train a ferret to travel?

Our ferrets occasionally go on longish trips in the car.  They hate being
cage-bound in the car, so we let them roam free.  For the first few minutes,
they explore every corner, but they very quickly get bored and settle down.
One usually sleeps under a front seat, the other often curls up in my lap.
The cage is open in the back of the car so they can use the litter tray.
(The cage has a bottom plastic tray about 8" deep; the top is heavy wire
which latches to the bottom.  In the car we leave the wire top off.)

RR>Also, is it ok to leave him in his cage for a couple of days (with
RR>food/water etc)?

Our ferrets are restricted to a single room if we go away for a weekend.
We make sure they have lots of food and water*.  They're happy to get out
when we get back, but seem to be okay.  I admit I always felt sort of
guilty leaving just one alone for two days.

* Water, n: liquid that humans put into a container to give ferrets the
            pleasure of spilling it on the floor.  If you're going to leave
            ferrets alone for two days, you *must* solve this problem!

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From: canelone@shawnee.cis.ohio-state.edu (Dawn Canelones)
Subject: rabbit illness - coccidia(sp?)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: rec.pets
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 21:00:16 GMT


I recently lost a rabbit to coccidia (which causes diarrhea) and now
have a new rabbit with the same ailment.  The new rabbit was diagnosed
in time.  Has anyone had any experience with this disease and what causes
it?  the vet said something that it was probably something in the rabbit's 
environment, but didn't have a clue as to what.  Could it be her water? 
I do let my rabbit wander around the house for a couple of hours each day. 
Is there  anything to prevent this from happening again?

any comments will be greatly appreciated.
canelone@cis.ohio-state.edu
Dawn

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