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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Order of statements in config.sys
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:54:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.182258.2680@msc.cornell.edu> tommy@msc.cornell.edu (Mike Thompson) writes:
>I used to understand the operation of CONFIG.SYS and AUTOEXEC.BAT
>for DOS. But I'm completely blind in OS/2 and IBM seems to be moving
>the way of the Mac hiding everything from the user.  Is there a way
>to get some detailed technical information?  It would make managing
>the systems a lot less trial- and-error if I had the sense I know
>what was going on!

I believe the OS/2 redbooks describe the behavior of CONFIG.SYS is
pretty good detail.  You can obtain the redbooks in electronic form
via anonymous ftp from software.watson.ibm.com.

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From: pierre@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Trying to get up to date on OS/2 2.0 issues
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:31:10 GMT

I am currently re-installing OS/2 2.0, and haven't read the news lately.   But 
to get up to date, could someone please send me a mailer on what this "CSD" 
issue is?  I also would also like to know if the OS/@ as finnally got the 
SVGA drivers out, and if anyone has gotten the Win 3.1 upgrade.  The reason
is that I would like to know if the Win 3.1 upgrade for OS/2 will support
the True-Type fonts available to Win 3.1.  I tossed OS/2 because of this, but
find the "True-MultiTasking" of OS/2 a necessity.
Reply email or here.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: "marc bourassa" <marc.bourassa@canrem.com>
Subject: after csd - dos&ini p
Reply-To: "marc bourassa" <marc.bourassa@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 21 Nov 92 08:42:27 EST

Hi,

I am wondering if anyone else has experienced the following problems 
and, if so, if you can suggest work arounds for them.

1) When I open up a DOS Fullscreen (or Window) session, and try to run 
SIMPC (a Comm program I need to use for work) the session dies on a 
System 1376 (illegal intruction).

I had this problem immediately after installing the CSD when trying to 
Loadhigh Borland's Sidekick (v. 1.56a). I was able to get around this 
by loading it into conventional memory. 

I simply can't get SIMPC to work. I have boot manager and can us it in
Native DOS, but this is a little cumbersome.

2) My OS2SYS.INI file has been growing like crazy. When I installed the 
CSD it was sitting at around 300+ K. Now it is about 5.5 Megs and still 
growing!

My system is a '486-33 DX (Intel)
         with  16 Megs RAM
               200 Meg hard drive - 30 Meg FAT partition
                                    170 Meg HPFS Partition
               3 1/2" HD A: drive
               5 1/4" HD B: drive
               2400 baud Zoom Modem on Com1
               14.4 Kbaud USR sportster on Com2
               ATI Wonder XL with 1 meg Ram & Mouse on IRQ 5
               Roland DG PR-1011 printer on LPT1
               Roland MPU-IPC (Midi board)

Please, any help would be appreciated.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: iam@stiatl.salestech.com (Ian Mercado)
Subject: Re: Interesting bug with Minsweeper and seemless windows
Organization: Sales Technologies, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:20:52 GMT

>In article <4385@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> rvaniwaa@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ronald J. Vaniwaarden) writes:
>>Try this out on your machines.  I am running Trident's 800x600x16 color
>>seamless drivers and was playing Minesweeper seamlessly.  I minimized it
>>to do some real work and when I restored it, the timer was no longer running!
>>I now have minsweeper times of 2 seconds for Beginner, Intermediate, and
>>Advanced levels.  Let me know if it works on your machine.  I am running
>>the Minesweeper from the entertainment pack for windows.

This is a known bug in the entertainment pack version of MineSweeper.  It
works in Windows, also, but only (I think) if you minimize it within the
first couple of seconds of play.

Ian

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From: gac2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Geoffrey A. Coulter)
Subject: Internal Modems w/ Rockwell chipset (Re: OS/2 2.0 and modem use)
Keywords: Does not work
Reply-To: gac2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 07:20:54 GMT

In article <g1mFuB2w165w@billapc.UUCP> baustin@billapc.UUCP (Bill Austin) writes:
>rene@hardy.u.washington.edu (Rene Magritte) writes:
>
>> Boca Research 14.4k modem (has a 16450 :(  ).   I know that a 16550 is
>
>Second, if your using the Boca internal.. it doesn't have a 16450.. it
[Lots deleted from both]

On a side note, I am using the Zoom 14.4 internal, which also seems to
have the Rockwell chips, but sysid under DOS says it has a 16550, as
does the box.  So, do some versions of the Rockwell chipset emulate a
16550, because I didn't see one on the card?  Struck me as a little
strange.  And btw, I have no problems with high-speed transfers (1700+
cps) while doing other things in the foreground.  Not bad for a $220
modem... 

Geoffrey Coulter
coulter@guvax.georgetown.edu
gac2@ellis.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Rampat memory manager
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:54:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.124821.7675@u.washington.edu> rkimmel@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Kimmel) writes:
>I recently put in a Rampat memory card in my system, and now my system is 
>running incredably SLOW.  I did a speedcom check in a dos full screen and
>it usually says I'm running a Intel 486-25 (i've actually have a 486-33)
>this time though, is says it's a 486-1.  should I reinstall the GA and even 
> and the CSD? will it be necessary?
>my system:
> 486-33 (intel CPU, ami bios)
> 8 megs memory
> speedstar (et4000)
> 130 meg maxtor
> 90 meg seagate
> I've now added a rampat memory card with 4 megs
> all the memory (12 megs) are samsung 70ns simms

Take it out, and sell it.  A 16-bit 8 MHz memory card is of zero use
on your 33 MHz 32-bit system.  Fill the SIMM slots instead.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) (OS/2)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Crashproof? NOT!
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:37:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.164941.27113@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.034053.639@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) writes:
>>No, I'm not saying OS/2 2.0 is crash-proof.  I have not heard even
>>IBM saying it.  A poorly written driver (or a badly installed driver,
>>as in my two cases) is an Achille's Heel with probably any OS.
>
>This post reminds me of a particular crash I've been having recently.
>I've been running Origin's Martian Dreams game, which would
>occasionally die, and sometimes take OS/2 with it.  It just occurred
>to me that this could be due to the presence of the SBOS2 driver (the
>only non-IBM one in my system right now).  Since Martian Dreams uses
>the SB for sound (but only the synth channels as far as I know), this
>could be the cause of the problem.  Does this make sense?

I don't have the SBOS2 driver, but since OS/2 drivers have the same
privilege level as the kernel (at ring 0), dangerous drivers (buggy,
beta, or badly installed) can knock down OS/2.

While code at ring 3 (like a DOS app) is denied access to certain parts
of the system (I think IBM calls this Crash Protection), code running at
ring 0 can access just about anything without OS/2's permission:  just as
if OS/2 did not have Crash Protection!

If your driver is installed properly, and its not a beta driver, it
probably has bugs in it.  (of course, a beta driver also has bugs,
but at least you can be cautious knowing it's a beta.)


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From: Bertram.Moshier@f115.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Bertram Moshier)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: MN OS/2 EUG December Meet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:12:32 -0600

                      Minnesota OS/2 End-user Group
                             December Meeting

Reservations requested:  Please call 612/397-6444 and register using
                         course code OS2.

When:   December 17, 1992 - 19:00 (7PM CDT) to 22:00 (10PM CDT)

Where:  IBM Building
        650 Third Avenue South (First Bank Place)
        Minneapolis, MN   55402

Agenda: Business Meeting
        Questions and Answers
        Vendor Presentation
                IBM presents Borg!

         Bob Brickweg will present a time (in the very near future)
         when the Next Generation and Borg are working together - in
         peace, harmony, and for the benefit of all computing kind.

         All kidding aside, come and see OS/2 2.01!  See the major
         performance improvements (Yes Virgina, end-users can use OS/2
         with only 4 MB RAM), complete Windows 3.1 support, and other
         new and exciting features.

        Member Presentation
                None (yet) scheduled.  Would you like to present?

Refreshments provided.

Door Prize:  Copies of OS/2 Professional Magazine.
             DCF/2 (if it arrives in time).
             Other possible items.

Directions:  The IBM Building location is on Third Avenue South between
South Sixth Street and South Seventh Street.  IBM and First Bank share
the same building (First Bank Place).  You might ask directions when
registering.

Note:  Only two entrances are open - 6th Street and the skyway.

Parking:  Several parking ramps exist.

  Northstar Center - One block West of IBM.
  IBM/First Bank - Parking is expensive ($6.00 plus).
  Pillsbury Center - One and an half blocks North of IBM.
  Hennepin County Govt. Center - $2.00 after 4PM, last time I used it.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: astsloke@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Subject: Re: How do I unzip SP?
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:50:43 GMT

In article <Bxs673.3u5@news.iastate.edu>, TW.FY4@isumvs.iastate.edu (Timothy I Miller) writes:
>      Could somebody please tell me which archiver I'm supposed to
> use to unzip the SP from hobbes?  PKzip v.1.02 doesn't work.
>      Please email me, since I'm a little behind with my reading on
> this newsgroup.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Timothy Miller
> 
> Oh yeah, in case you're wondering, I *did* set the file type to
> binary.


You require pkuz193a.exe the alpha version of the new pkunzip.  This will unzip
these files (worked for me).  I think you can find it on wuarchive.wustl.edu
but I can't recall exactly where I got it from.

Regards,

T.S. Loke
Nanyang Technological University 
Singapore
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2.MISC needs Positive Feedbacks for OS/2 encouragement!!!  
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:49:09 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.advocacy
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Nov15.034225.12381@news.Hawaii.Edu> lkan@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Linus Kan) writes:
>...just a thought :) 

Well, gripes are fine, and I have my share of them.

However, we do have a newsgroup for that sort of thing, namely
comp.os.os2.advocacy.  Constructive criticism is always helpful, and
it is best aired in that forum.  (In fact, I wish there were more of
it there.)  But do make it constructive.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: wilker@hopf.math.purdue.edu (Clarence Wilkerson)
Subject: Losing desktop after exiting Telnet 2.3 under DOS window
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:23:30 GMT

All my screen blanks after I exit from NCSA Telnet 2.3 under a DOS
window. I'm using a Tseng ET4000 clone card, with the GA 2.0 defaults.
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From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Watch out for ATI Drivers (HELP!!)
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:49:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: ringer.1992Nov17.074909.2828
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <BxuFrn.F5y@news.iastate.edu> TW.FY4@isumvs.iastate.edu (Timothy I Miller) writes:
>     Be Careful of the OS/2 2.0 ATI Ultra Drivers!
>     I installed them, and my system won't boot up any longer.  It
>appears that all I have to do is replace my config.sys with the
>backed up config.sys, but I can't get access to my E: Drive!
[...]
>     Alright, everybody's saying, well at least your config.sys is
>backed up.  That's what I said, anyway.  I used the Install
>disks which came with OS/2 and got to the CLI from those.  I
>switched to E: (where OS/2 is), and tried to get a dir.  Nothing
>happened!  It gave me some sort of error (Can't read disk, or
>something like that).  So now there's nothing I can think of to do!

Boot from your OS/2 install disk.  Insert disk #1 when prompted.  Press
escape when prompted.  After being placed in the OS/2 command line
insert disk #2.  Stay at drive A: ;  don't change to another drive!
Type:
[A:\] CHKDSK E: /F:3

Now you can copy back your CONFIG.SYS file and reboot from the hard drive.

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From: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM (Kenneth A. Kahn)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 05:40:39 EST
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: How to access HPFS drive after floppy boot ??
Organization: Staff of IBM Fellow - IBM Personal/370
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
X-X-From: KENKAHN@PKSMRVM.VNET.IBM.COM (Ken Kahn)

In <1992Nov17.043542.17311@trl.oz.au> Steve Madden writes:
>Hi there,
>    after receiving and installing TCPIP v1.2 which does not work
>under 2.0, I duly removed it, but not as the manual suggested :-( I then
>tried to instal version 1.2.1, but it does'nt have the ethernet drivers
>on the disc yet, and so I get errors about being unable to find
>macwd.dat or wahtever. I press enter, and one of the TCPIP drivers
>loads, and the machine then hangs. If I boot from a floppy, I can't
>acess my HPFS partition, and so I cant edit my config.sys file to stop
>the TCPIP stuff being loaded. Anyone out there able to tell me what I
>have to do to get at my config.sys ? (if I do a 'dir' after booting from
>floppy, I get "incorrect internal file identifier") Am I destined for a
>complete re-install or is there some way out ??

Make sure your BOOT Disk has the file HPFS.IFS on it and your CONFIG.SYS has
the following statement:

  IFS=HPFS.IFS
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: abaker@jarthur.claremont.edu (The Evil One)
Subject: Re: copyini vs cpyini
Keywords: OS2SYS.INI file size growing
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:37:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.213113.1978@midway.uchicago.edu> 
	sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>While we're on the subject of the massively growing INI file, and
>after apparently ruling out DeskPic as the culprit, is there anyone
>NOT using 4OS2 who suffers from the problem?  (In other words, shall
>4OS2 be nominated as the culprit?)

Well I can assure everyone it is NOT 4OS2.  Nor is it seamless windows.
I have a growing OS2SYS.INI file too and I don't run 4OS2 or seamless windows
or any third party video drivers, just the 8514/A drivers that came with the 
SP.  I think it's just a bug in the SP.  I have the SP installed over a pure
GA and I haven't added anything to it since.

Just my personal opinions

Andrew R. Baker        abaker@jarthur.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS2SYS.ini file size: Interim solution.
From: djbpitt+@pitt.edu (David J Birnbaum)
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:14:12 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Keywords: OS2SYS.INI file size growing

>Well, mine is 580k, so I am very interested in finding out if
>this is normal in any way. And, how can it be fixed if it isn't.
>I do not want to loose my current desktop just to fix this.

IBM has assigned APAR number PJ06759 to this problem, although they
haven't predicted how long it will take to fix it.

Meanwhile, I recovered safely from an 11MB (!) os2sys.ini by using
copyini (reduced it to 29k). The procedure is cumbersome: copyini will
produce copies without the garbage in a different directory. You then
have to boot from your installation diskettes (so that the ini files are
not in use) and copy the clean versions over the messy ones. If you
don't change your setup while the copying is going on, you won't lose
your desktop; copyini doesn't just restore the original ini files, but,
rather, creates new ones that are aware of configuration changes you
have made.

By the way, after safely shrinking my ini files in this way, I proceeded
to crash the system terribly by using checkini, a companion program to
copyini. The fault here is mine: checkini tells you when it finds an
error, offers to fix it, and suggests whether or not you should accept
specific offers. I accepted all of them, including the ones it advised
against. It could be that checkini would have shrunk my ini files still
further (and safely) if I had followed its advice.

But shrinking 11MB to 29k is, frankly, savings enough for me. My ini
files have been growing quite slowly since then and I'll wait until they
hit 1M before using copyini again. This time I won't even try checkini;
it doesn't pay to be greedy.

One user reports that Inimaint 1.1f has a feature similar to copy.ini,
but lets you replace ini files on they fly while the system is running
(no booting from floppies required). A neat trick. I haven't tried this
because the latest version of Inimaint at hobbes is 1.1d; the 1.1f
version showed up on CompuServe, where I don't have an account. I am
told that I should be patient and the the newer version will eventually
find its way to hobbes, as well.

What we're really waiting for is a fix by IBM, but at least there is a
safe work-around until then.

--David

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: Re: Paradise says it is not working on 2.0 video drivers
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:14:13 GMT


>A few weeks ago, somebody reported that DTC told him they had no
>plans to provide OS/2 drivers for their SCSI controllers, but last
>night I noticed ASPI and OS/2 drivers for the 3280 on-line on their
>BBS.  It just goes to show that you can't always believe what you
>hear!
>--
>	Mike Berger
>	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu

Well, I suspect you're talking about me...  I reported that DTC has no
plans to make new drivers for OS/2 2.0 (not 1.x) for any of their stuff.
I have an EISA IDE controller for which I really wish there was an OS/2
driver.  Those ASPI and OS/2 drivers you saw on their BBS have been there
for ages...  They are not for 2.0 (to the best of my knowledge).
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: GNUinfo Setup Help
From: #410APOLLO1  800-227-6556 <MADJK@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:07:41 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

I have the GNUinfo package for OS/2.  I've run MAKEINFO to create a ?.info
file and have read the Info info file (without benefit of info, naturally)
trying to figure out how to create the "dir" file.  The topics on "dir" in
info info all assume that you already have a "dir" file and just want to add
a new info database.  I've tried editing a new file to look like the example
lines in info info and I've named the file various things like "dir",
"dir.info", "info.dir", etc.  I've tried putting the file in different places
and overriding file locations with the INFOPATH environment variable.  All to
no avail.  Every time I start INFO, I get a message that entry "Top" was not
found in "dir" followed by another message that "dir" wasn't found in the path
defaulted or specified by INFOPATH.

Having given this a fair amount of effort, I'm forced to ask:  what am I
missing?  How do I get the "dir" file?  What is the proper name for the "dir"
file?

John Kinker        Rohm and Haas Company    PO Box 219   Bristol, PA 19007
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