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From: gary@colossus.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Re: QB ratings, week 1
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:09:14 GMT

Darn, already a screw-up!

This is what I said:

Week  1 (minimum 10 attempts):
Pos Name              Atts Comp   Cmp%  Yards  AvgGn TDs  TD % INT  IN%   RATE
--- ----------------  ---- ----   ----  -----  ----- ---  ---- ---  ---   -----
[...]
 10 Jim Harbaugh        30   19   63.3    227   7.57   0   0.0   0  0.0    86.4
[...]

This is what it should be:
Pos Name              Atts Comp   Cmp%  Yards  AvgGn TDs  TD % INT  IN%   RATE
--- ----------------  ---- ----   ----  -----  ----- ---  ---- ---  ---   -----
[...]
  7 Jim Harbaugh        30   19   63.3    227   7.57   2   6.7   0  0.0   108.6
[...]

Jim Kelly and everyone below drops down a notch. Thanks to Andy Knipp.

--
Gary Strand                      Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
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From: eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz)
Subject: Re: Madden sucks
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:51:51 GMT

In article <AHALL.92Sep14144457@slothrop.fmrco.com> ahall@fmrco.com (Andrew Hall) writes:
>
>I can't believe that anyone likes Madden.  He is SO bad.
>He gets all the facts wrong (watch his replays, at least
>50% of the time the players don't go where he drew the
>line).  He can't speak english....
>

Jeesh! Take a ridilin or a valium or something...you'll get over it 
eventually.












>                   division of the Indiana Attorney General's office.


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From: august@hlpdsk.jsc.nasa.gov (Ray August)
Subject: Re: Oilers vs. Colts - Impressions, Stats pls.!!
Organization: LESC
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 13:52:44 GMT

: carries), and the defense was effective (total yardage was 419 to 162).
: The Oilers seemed to be executing the run-and-shoot in near optimal ball
: control fashion, but with one glaring exception.  Their sputtering
: performances inside the so-called red zone left a lot to be desired.  It
: is seems the Oilers need to come up with better strategies for how to
: handle a given team, and given defense inside the 20 yard line.  Their
: ability to finish off long drives was was not very convincing.  This
: game really should have been a blowout.
: 

Woof Woof Woof, and the "D" is only going to get better as the season
progresses -- hoping we can stay free from major injuries.  Yea you're
right about the red-zone; but, what should Pardee do?  I think he should
have a red-zone offensive setup with maybe a tight-end or two, with
White and Tillman in the backfield -- what do you guys think?
 
--

The rayster             ** Go Oilers
                        ** Go Braves
                        ** Bulls in 93
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Buffalo television\
Date: 8 Sep 92 04:17:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bu8G59.HKK@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v077mdph@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snoopy) writes...
>In article <Bu858I.CLs@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-
>CHRIST) writes...
>>Well here in the Wonderous city of Buffalo :} it happened again. At 1:00
>>the bills played the Rams and on the other station that was supposed to
>>show the Falcons/Jets game they broadcasted some bullshit. At 4;00 the
>>49ers/Giants game was supposed to be shown instead a hour of interviews 
>>with every from Jim Kelly to the bottle boys mother was shown. Woopee.
>>Then instead of going to the game already in progress we got to see paid 
>>advertisements.
> 
>	If you want to watch the Jets games, either go to somewhere with a
>satellite dish or go BACK TO FUCKING NEW YORK CITY!
>	Sorry, I'm just annoyed by New Yorkers who come here to UB, only to
>complain that NOTHING is as good as it is in New York.

Believe it or not i'm from this area so take chill pill. I just don't 
understand why this FUCKING city must always exclude other games from telecast
this also includes NBA games. I would have liked to see the Jets lose their
first game, but this FUCKING city must have decided to make the choice for
us. And if you can't tell I HATE the Jets.
> 
>>   |  "Life's a Bitch and then we all        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
>>   |   get fucked"                           * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
> 
>Snoopy
    _____________________________________________________________________
   |  "Life's a Bitch and then we all        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
   |   get fucked"                           * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
   |_____________________________________________________________________|
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Player Status: McKeller (Bills)
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:17:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <19920909.114948.711@almaden.ibm.com>, mannk@fshvmfk1.VNET.IBM.COM writes...
>What is the status on McKeller?  IR material?

Keith is to be on IR for 4-8 weeks. With Keith now injured the Bills are
faced with the dilema of finding someone to play tight end.
    _____________________________________________________________________
   |  "Life's a Bitch and then we all        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
   |   get fucked"                           * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
   |_____________________________________________________________________|
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From: timr@sco.COM (Tim Ruckle)
Subject: Upsets in week one
Organization: The Gifted and the Damned
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 01:36:35 GMT
Summary: Steelers, Colts, Bengals, & Cowboys win
Keywords: toe that line baby toe that line, get up boy an' hit 'em one more time



If you bet heavily on the underdogs last week you made a lot of money:
four teams were upset outright, and another three failed to cover the
spread...

Favorite	Line		Underdog	Covered?	Score
---------------------------------------------------------------------
49ers		 3.5		GIANTS		yes		31-14
PHILIDELPHIA	 3.5		New Orleans	no		15-13
BUFFALO		11		L.A. Rams	yes		40-7
CHICAGO		 3.5		Detroit		no		27-24
ATLANTA		 3		N.Y. Jets	(push)		20-17
HOUSTON		11.5		Pittsburgh	*upset*		24-29
Minnesota	 4		GREEN BAY	no		23-20(OT)
Cleveland	 6		INDIANAPOLIS	*upset*		 3-14
Kansas City	 2.5		SAN DIEGO	yes		24-10
SEATTLE		 4		Cincinnati	*upset*		 3-21
TAMPA BAY	 1		Phoenix		yes		23-7
DENVER		 3.5		L.A. Raiders	yes		17-13
Washington	 2		DALLAS		*upset*		10-23

(Home teams in CAPS.  New England at Miami postponed...)

Okay, if a tie loses you're only +1 for the underdogs, so I guess the
house ain't broke yet...

Who will it be tomorrow?  The Patriots over the favored but hapless
Rams? (could happen)  Defending AFC champs upset Niners at home?
(hope not)  The Colts defensive line stymie an INT happy Moon for
another upset for both? (I think NOT)

Another Bengals upset over the Raiders?  Yet another for the Steelers
as well over the Jets?  (Oh hell, I don't know...)  I guess that's why
I'm not usually a betting man.  And as somebody has mentioned here before,
the Vagas odds are not intended to be an accurate prediction of the game
outcome per se--they're designed to, on average, make money for the house
from folks who bet on football (which is not necessarily the same thing).

-timr

PS-- in article <1992Sep6.030628.16370@math.ucla.edu> of GOD I HATE THE RAMS!
rfedkiw@olympic.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) wrote:
} Well ... let's say the spread on a game is ten points, ... ah a good example
} would be this game right here, the Bills are 10 pt favorites.

hmmm, the last Vagas line i saw was more than this--still...

} Now, we go to the odds boys and put down a cool thousand on the Rams.
} Then we look for a sucker... hey didn't you say that the Rams would 
} win by 8 pts... you'll do just fine.
} So we bet another thousand with you, that is our resident sucker, 
} (we bet on Buffalo against you).
} Then we sit back and wait, maybe drink a few beers, whatever ....
} Here comes the good part...

yes, but good for who? ;^)

} If the Bills win by 10 pts, we collect a grand from the sucker and
} give it to the bookie plus their fee of 100 dollars. 
} So we lost 100 dollars... too bad, big deal, at least we got to 
} see the sucker lose a grand... the grass is greener.

well Ron, if that's your kind of fun then more power to ya.  seems to
me that the real winners here are bookies and the liquor stores. ;^)

--
Gwine to run all night!
Gwine to run all day!
I'll bet my money on de bobtail nag--
Somebody bet on the bay.
                        --Stephen Collins Foster, chorus to _Camptown Races_
From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Final Scores from Week 1
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:59:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep7.180311.6788@uwm.edu>, melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill) writes...
> 
>	I saw some people were requesting final scores from week one.
>	Well here they are:

[...]

>  Buffalo      40
>  LA Rams   	3

Correction Melissa:

Buffalo      40
LA Rams       7


                                  |                              Doug Evans
                                  | State University of New York at Buffalo
                                  |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: ism1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (IAN SETH MILLER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 1992 NFL Predictions
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:41:58 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Sep8.173604.25546@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, mdm@austin.ibm.com w
rites:
>
>In article <6SEP199203222038@venus.tamu.edu>, clb2515@venus.tamu.edu (BRAUN, CH
RISTOPHER L) writes:
>> These are the way things will likely end up this season as I see it.
>>
>> AFC East                       NFC East
>> 1. Jets                             1. Philadelphia
>> 2. Miami                            2. Washington
>> 3. New England              3. Giants
>> 4. Buffalo                  4. Dallas
>> 5. Indianapolis                5. Phoenix
>>
>> AFC Central                    NFC Central
>> 1. Houston                     1. Minnesota
>> 2. Cleveland                   2. Chicago
>> 3. Cincinnati                  3. Detroit
>> 4. Pittsburgh                  4. Green Bay

How can you continually have Pittsburgh in last.  I guess you'll have to
relearn the lesson the Steelers taught last week.



>>                                5. Tampa Bay
>> AFC West
>> 1. Kansas City                 NFC West
>> 2. Denver                      1. San Francisco
>> 3. Raiders                     2. Atlanta
>> 4. San Diego                   3. New Orleans
>> 5. Seattle                     4. Rams
>>
>> Playoffs:
>> Cleveland at Jets              New Orleans at Minnesota
>> Denver at Miami                Atlanta at Washington
>>
>> Jets at Kansas City            Minnesota at San Francisco
>> Denver at Houston              Washington at Philadelphia
>>
>> Kansas City at Houston         Minnesota at Philadelphia
>>
>> Super Bowl XXVII:
>> Houston over Philadelphia           (I'll guess 26-23 OT)
>>                                               - gotcha Fo!
>>
>> Kindly submitted by Christopher Lee Braun, football genius.
>> "Don't make me trounce you."
>>
>> "Bill Walsh is the greatest man who ever lived.  I want him to bear my
>>  children."   A&M 10, Stanford 7- August 26, 1992.
>>
>>
>
>I have to say that if this is the way you see the season ending standings
>then you desperately need glasses!   However, your choice of Super Bowl
>combatants may not be far off.   I think I may be starting to see what
>you're saying ... it's a joke right?
>--
> Mike Manning                  Internet: Coming soon!
> AIX Development               IBM Net:  mdm@shanghai.austin.ibm.com
> Austin, Texas                 VM Net:   Are you kidding?
> DISCLAIMER: My views are seldom shared by anyone and certainly not IBM.
>
From: hilz@cs.arizona.edu (Eric J. Hilz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys beat Redskins: 23-10
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:11:08 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Sep8.130553.1290@oz.plymouth.edu> s_bean@oz.plymouth.edu (Shaun P. Bean) writes:
>As far as I am saw Alexander Wright had one fuck of a game, and was a
>major factor in Dallas' O dominating ( Line aside ).  That catch he
>made going out of bounds has increadable, and it surprised me they
>didn't say incomplete.
>
That wasn't Ace Wright, that was Alvin Harper.

A 'Boys diehard,
Eric Hilz
From: warlock@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM (Dennis Richards Montgomery)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jay Schroeder???
Date: 9 Sep 1992 16:53:21 -0700
Organization: Sun Microsystems Federal, Inc., Milpitas, CA, USA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: warlock@halloween.EBay.Sun.COM (Dennis Richards Montgomery)
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In article <1992Sep9.162449.21268@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>So, is Jay a relative of Al Davis's?  I mean, why the hell has he put up
>with that crap for so long?  Is Todd Marinovich going to be the superstar
>that Al hopes, or will the Raiders be QB-less for years to come?
>-- 
>
>Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

Can you say Marc Wilson???

I'm not a Raider fan but from growing up with the *Oakland* Raiders 40 miles 
away and watching my Broncos play them 2x a year forever...

This isn't the 1st time Al Davis has made a bonehead QB decision.  

1) He trades Stabler...if anyone ever deserved to play his whole career as
	a Raider it was #12
2) He lingers on and on with Marc Wilson
3) He's doing the same with Schroeder

I'd like to see Jay remain the Raider QB for a *Long* time :) 
  ...the only possible explanation I see could be that Marinovich is going
       to ride the bench for a few more games then step into the starting
       job mid-season???  The same type of move Shula did with Marino.

Dennis
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Redskins played like slobs?
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:35:02 GMT
Organization: Pacific * Bell

In article <1992Sep9.153530.28231@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:
>In article <BuBE39.6tr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mab50312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark A. Blickhan) writes:
>  [ major text deleted ]
>
>>Conclusion:  In the 'Skins off-season and preseason party, just like the '87
>>and '91 Giants,  they let someone else pass them by.  Don't look for much
>>from them,  especially if Detroit wins its first ever game in RFK.  The
>>Skins could be 0-3 and chasing the Phoenix Cardinals for another Desmond
>>Howard draft pick next year,  WITHOUT TRADING TO GET HIM!
>>
>>Mark Blickhan      ....   Detroit Lions -- Kings of the Jungle!
>>			  NFC Central Div. Champs , 8-0 at home.
>>
>   Well, I have a different conclusion. They simply had everything (i.e.
>   confidence and a few breaks) go their way last year. Not only were they
>   a great team, but everything they did turned up roses. I think one play
>   in Monday night's game summed up the difference between the Skins of this
>   year and last year. Rypien threw late to a wide-open Monk on what should
>   have been a long TD pass. Ryp almost never missed a deep pass last year.
>   Also, Ryp was never pressured. If he's pressured, he won't always make
>   the right decisions. I'm still not totally sold on Ryp's ability. The
>   'Skins were greater than the sum of their parts last year, they might
>   just be another very good team this year.
>
>   --salty

One of the underlying truths about SB champions and repeating is that every
friging coach is up burning the midnight oil studying and re-studying the
SB winner.  Every team is primed to beat/plsy the former SB champion's.  Coupled
with perhaps complacency, the SB champions have reached the pinnacle of their
support and they are not as "hungry" the following year.  For a champion to
repeat in football takes a lot of concentration, as is week to week focus,
to enable themselves to repeat.  Not too many teams can do this.

-- 
        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
 		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: smorris@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Morris )
Subject: Lion's News
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 15 Sep 1992 12:37 EDT  

Roster moves:  As someone posted earlier, Don Overton was cut and
11th round pick Ed Tillison was promoted from the practice squad 
to backup RB.  Just before the Bears game, White, Gibson and Blades
were activated.  To make room, LB Darryl Ford and 8th round pick
DB Willie Clay were cut and 6th round pick OT Larry Tharpe was
put on IR.  I assume Clay and Ford were resigned to the practice
squad, but I never heard for sure.  Herman Moore was put on IR, I
assume to activate NT Lawrence Pete, but I'm not sure.

Injuries:  S William White reinjured his ankle and is day to day.
DL Mark Spindler injured a knee.  An MRI will be done today to
determine the extent of the damage.  Herman Moore will miss three games
(the Lion's have week 6 off).  Barrett and Matthews played in his
place against Minn.  Neither looked good or caught a pass.  Barrett
blew an assignment on one play and was benched for the rest of the
game.  Lack of consistancy appears to be his problem.

Other moves:  Pritchett started at DE in place of Owens, who had
a bad game against Chicago.  In the second half against Minn.,
they did some juggling in the OL.  Eric Sanders replaced Conover 
and Dennis McKnight replaced Bouwens.  As expected, the OL has been
the biggest problem.  A trade is still being talked about, but no
specifics have been mentioned.

Ron
From: barnes@cowboys.esd.sgi.com (Jim Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: New Cowboys
Keywords: Haley
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:41:58 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

Charles Haley is a GREAT addition............
What FOOLS gave him up???????????????
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah

GO  COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: felix@ocf.berkeley.edu (Felix Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Who has got the toughest schedule - a repost.
Date: 14 Sep 1992 21:39:40 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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In article <BuKy13.H5A@acsu.buffalo.edu> v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BILLS 34 Niners 31) writes:

>The NFC East is overrated as the "toughest division in football."  The Cardinals
>are a joke, and the Giants-Cowboys game proved that the Giants are hideous and
>that the Cowboys still have a way to go before they are a *truly* elite team.
>The point is, each division has its bum teams, and maybe it has a powerhouse,
>and the rest are so-so.  For my money, the NFC West might rate higher, but 

I'd put the Cowboys, Eagles, and Redskins just a tad bit higher than so-so.
And the Cardinals (4-12) of last year were easily better than the Rams,
the Colts, and the Bengals (don't remember the other 2 last place finishers).
With a tougher schedule, too (Niners, Broncos, and don't forget those 8 NFC
East games.)

>Remember, two years ago the Bills beat the Eagles, Cardinals, and Giants in the
>regular season, losing a meaningless game to the Redskins.  Still, the NFC
>representative was touted as some divine avatar of God in the Super Bowl.  Last
...
>I don't mean to use the Bills personally, but it is done to illustrate the twin
>points that no division reigns supreme, and that "NFC superiority" is a myth.

Funny, how you just happened to pick the best team in the AFC to illustrate
your point.  If you want a more meaningful example, you really oughtta pick
a slightly more average team.  Or you could do a comprehensive run-down of
inter-divisional games, but that's already been done (and I believe the NFC
East tops that list).  Or you could show the Superbowl and playoff...

Well, I'm sure you've seen all those stats more than enough times already.

Felix Ling
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From: jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske)
Subject: Re: A VIKING WOOFER!!
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:44:47 GMT

heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:

>In article <20222@plains.NoDak.edu>, herreid@plains.NoDak.edu (Todd J. Herreid) writes...

>>            MINNESOTA VIKINGS ARE A MAJOR THREAT!
[stuff deleted]

>Ya, the Lions are shaking in their boots after the Vikings had to go 
>into OT to beat a team that was 4-12 last year.

>JGH
Mr. Heim, I would like to say that I (and a lot of people I know) cringe
at the thought of anyone woofing about the Vikes.  Dennis Green has no  
problem with the woofing though.  He wants people to be excited about the
team.  He wants us to have high expectations.  He wants to fill the
Metrodome with paying customers.  He must have attendance incentive clauses
in his contract.  
I'm glad the Vikes beat the Packers - they had to beat the Packers - but
I saw nothing in the game to justify woofing.  In fact, I don't know if I
can ever woof for the Vikes - I've been a fan for too long.  Call it the
low-team-esteam syndrome.  Ah, to be young (and naive) and woofing for the
Vikes out on the plains of North Dakota.  Having said that Mr. Heim, I will
add: your statement that the Vikings beat a 4-12 team is an understatement.
The Vikings did not merely beat a team that was 4-12 last season.  The 
Vikings beat the Packers...the Packers!  The Vikes are half of the way to
prevailing in one of the greatest annual battles between NFL rivals.

John Ganske      -------------------------
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From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Quickest expansion-to-playoff team in sports (was Re: Bucs coach
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 21:07:46 GMT

Lots of good answers to my trivia question.  Many of you were on the right
track.  In both the NBA and NHL, expansion teams have made the playoffs in
their first year of existence.

However the most correct answer was the St. Louis Blues, which won its
division as an expansion team in 1968.  To my knowledge, no other team in
major professional sports has done this.

Now....the opposite question: which major league franchise took the longest
amount of time to post their first winning season?
-- 
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