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From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: so much skin, so little ink...
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:21:56 GMT

In article <8085.15595@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM> jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com  
(Jane Beckman) writes:
>>any one have some suggestions?  Was it you, Jilara, who was getting the 
>>celtic garter? how did that turn out?
>Well, I've been trying, but I think my tat artist has gone
>south on me.
bad news, I think that stinks. if he were to leave his old store then fine,
but he should have let you know of his next place of work.

>I think the standard female spots are ...
>... another weird "traditional" female
>thing---little rinky-dink cutsie tats. 
yah, i either that or what i call the "my little pony" tattoos. long swirling
rainbows with sparkles that bother me as much as those damn horses did.

> I saw a celtic garter in a photo, recently.  Seriously
>awesome, and VERY sexy.

yes, at first i was impartial at the garter idea, but having fixated, errrr,
thought about it, i've become most curious. sigh. sometimes a hermit-like life
is not advantageous.
--
Lance 
Cats Hate it: when you name them Percival.
From: minneman@parc.xerox.com (Scott Minneman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: gauge and millimetres
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:53:14 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: Xerox PARC

The Gauntlet guide has the following chart:

20ga = .032" = 0.813mm
18ga = .040" = 1.024mm
16ga = .051" = 1.290mm
14ga = .064" = 1.629mm
12ga = .081" = 2.052mm
10ga = .102" = 2.588mm
 8ga = .128" = 3.264mm
 6ga = .162" = 4.111mm
 4ga = .204" = 5.189mm
 2ga = .257" = 6.543mm
 0ga = .324" = 8.230mm
00ga = .364" = 9.246mm
From: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: length of cleaning?
Date: 28 Jul 1992 07:29:41 GMT
Organization: Saint Sebastian's school for Wicked Girls
Reply-To: barb@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Barbara MacRae)
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcave.ebay.sun.com

In article <0eR6Bc600iUyA54b4z@andrew.cmu.edu> Lynn Evette Clarke <lc2e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>i noted that on a bottle of hibilclens, the directions state that one
>should not routinely use it as a cleanser. i don't know about hydrogen
>peroxide....

	Your nipple is probably healing so well because you're
	*NOT* using hydrogen peroxide. It definitely prolongs
	healing, by killing the new skin cells along with the
	bacteria. It's a decent thing to use on a scraped knee,
	but it's not a good cleanser for any piercing.

>
>while i realise that nipples and healing times vary, i have had my
>nipple pierced 4 5 weeks today and it is virtually healed (at least
>superficially).  i have seen inflammation from the piercing once in the
>last 5 days and there are no more crusties.  my piercer told me 2 use
>regular ol' salt solution 3 times a day 2 cleanse the piercing. when i
>told him others recommend hibiclens or something similar he said all i
>needed was salt solution. i used very dilute hibiclens (the shit is

	I recently had an ear piercing (cartilage) flare up,
	and I had tried *everything*. I was fed up and ready
	to take it out, but I decide to try washing it with
	warm salt water. I figured, "it works on sore throats,
	might as well give it a shot"... three days later, it's
	completely cleared up. I don't know if it'll stay o.k.,
	but it's saved for now. And in such a... HOMEOPATHIC
	way!!! Wow!

	-Barb
From: bt0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brent Hayden Thomas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Tattoo artists in upstate NY
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:53:47 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hi, sorry if this information is available elsewhere on the net, but I
was wondering if anyone had any reccomendations on tattoo artists in the
general Rochester-Syracuse-Ithica-Buffalo-Niagra Falls area.

Thanks much,
Brent
From: goudal@firmin.greco-prog.fr (Frederic GOUDAL)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: 12 ga.
Date: 28 Jul 92 09:04:55 GMT
Organization: GRECO Programmation du CNRS - Bordeaux,France

I would like to thanks all the people who gave me exactly the
information I was asking for about the gauge standard.

a ciao.
babbs.

-- 

goudal@geocub.greco-prog.fr          "Why can't we reach the sun?"
oral-mail : babbs			 Pink Floyd
Organization: Junior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:31:31 -0400 
From: Lynn Evette Clarke <lc2e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: nipple worries *=^(


so a few days after posting that all was well in pierced-nipple land the
strangest thing happened yesterday:

i have a similar experience 2 tom's even though i've only had my
piercing 4 5 weeks and 3 days:

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.bodyart: 25-Jul-92 Re: Tight Nipple Ring
Tom R. Rice@netcom.com (245)

> My rings (14 ga.) have been in for over five years.  They are
> rather tight in the holes if you try to turn them dry, but in
> the shower or with any liquid lubrication, they just slip
> right through.  I suspect it's just the nature of nipple meat!

    i must admit that water doesn't quite do the trick 4 me though. 
anyway, so i'm cleaning my piercing last night with alcohol and i'm
having a little difficulty turning the ring (which isn't unusal since it
'healed').  then as i'm turning it i see this stuff wrapped around the
ring which looked like fresh inflammation 2 me.  but in trying 2 wipe it
off of the ring i noticed that it was solid (with a consistency of latex
almost) and it was perfectly cylindrical around the ring as if i had
accidentally removed a layer of skin or something (although my areolae
skin is dark brown and this thing was off-white).  i tried 2 turn it all
the way out but it seemed 2 be partially attached 2 my nipple.   so i
removed the part that was visible with the help of a scissors (it was
*that* 'strong/thick') and lambassed the piercing with anti-bacterial
ointment. it pained while i was falling asleep and i awoke with it
hurting a bit.  cleaned it this morning with alcohol and salt solution
and it wasn't bloody or pussy (sp? *=^>) or crusty and with the ointment
residue, it turned fine.  but it feels like a fresh piercing and it
burned and still burns like it's now raw on the inside.

needless 2 say i am thoroughly confused and somewhat upset.  what could
this be?!?  if it was skin, why was it?!?!  is this a rejection of some
sort?  does anyone have raelyn gallina'a phone number?

=-p-=


                      2 the batmobile!!!.....

              
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From: bixenman@ccop1.ocpt.ccur.com (michael bixenman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Tatoo and toto too?
Keywords: ideas
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:55:17 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Concurrent Computer, Oceanport NJ

I was at a "place" that did tats the other day. I asked the "artist"
if he did, "oriental style, like the Japanese, tatoos". He showed me
a dragon and some geisha girls done on paper! Help...... Is/are there
any places in the Ocean, Monmouth, or Middlesex county area that can
do some nice tatoo work ala the Yakuza? I hope this isn't a FAQ!
I would like to see some examples before I decide to get one done. 
Thanks in advance. 
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From: wab@well.sf.ca.us (Doc Benzene)
Subject: Re: More TATTOO CITY ?s
Organization: Hell Hole, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:24:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.165315.12591@athena.mit.edu> sera@space.mit.edu (Sera Markoff) writes:
>
>Along the same lines as previous posts, I'm looking for the list of the tat 
>artists currently at Tattoo City and wondering how long in advance I'd have to 
>call about it.  I'm going to be in SF Aug 25-30 (so Corbin's out...) and would 
>like to get another one while I'm there.  Any info would be greatly appreciated!!

Eddie Deutsch seems to be booked two weeks in advance
perpetually.  He doesn't take reservations over the phone (I
don't think any of the guys working there do, unless they know
you well).  But they take walk-ins every Saturday.
First-come, first-served.  
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: 12 ga.
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 04:47:02 GMT

goudal@aquilon.greco-prog.fr (Frederic GOUDAL) writes:

>In article <hurd.711144168@sfu.ca>, hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd) writes:
>>lc2e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lynn Evette Clarke) writes:
>>>what exactly does 12 ga. mean?
>>>=-p-=
>> 
>>ga. is wire gauge & follows the usual wire gauge standard.  Note that 
>>smaller numbers are thicker wire.  Check out the bailing wire in your
>>hardware store for an idea of what the gauges are in real life.

>I love this answer...
>I was wainting for a precise answer to this question and it did not come, so
>I ask it more precisely : here in france, wire is sell with a
>diameter, or for electric wire with a surface measure, so can any good
>soul tell me what is the correspondance between gauge an diamteter
>(and please if you had this in milimeters !!!!). (I hope I don't ask
>too much !!!).

Humph, you don't like bailing wire, fine.
I mean, sure you might be some kind of pervert, but bailing wire is
like one of the fundamental building blocks of nature.  Dirt, Stagnant
Pond, Whiff of Oganic Decay, and Bailing Wire.  Yeish.
Love me, love my bailing wire, -P.

-- 
-- Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca          |   Truth never set anyone free,          
Behavioural Ecology Research Group |   it is only doubt which will           
Dept.Biol.Sci., Simon Fraser Univ. |   bring mental emancipation.               
Burnaby B.C. V5A 1S6 Canada        |               -- Anton LaVey                      
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Tattoo City
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 20:04:55 GMT
Organization: Charnel House Prod.

batman@batcave.EBay.Sun.COM (Karl Elvis MacRae - Ministry of Silly Walks) writes:
: In article <1992Jul23.202054.8879@dante.uucp> mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) writes:
: >dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
: >: 
: >: Warning to anyone who was going to visit San Francisco in August
: >: and was hoping to get tattooed by Freddy Corbin.  He is going
: >: to be on a well-earned vacation for the entire month.  He will
: >: be back in september.
: >
: >Damn, so much for my oh-so-tentative plan of getting another one
: >before visiting Japan...
: 
: 	Oh, sure, you've been saying that since I met you.
: 
: 	Anyway, I don't think you wanna go over to Japan showing too
: 	much ink. The non-tattooed will all think you're Yakuza
: 	(Japanese mafia) and the tattooed will look on you with
: 	contempt if you're less than fully tattooed.

Nah, I'm going to be spending all of my time with Japanese musicians
who have their share of tattoos.  Near as I can tell the whole thing
about Japanese and tattoos is much overblown.  And in addition, as a
gaijin I'm entitled to be a bit weirder anyway.


  VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
             Mason Jones           Charnel House Productions
             P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco 94117-0277 U.S.A.
   ...{uunet,sun}!hoptoad!dante!mason   or   dante!mason@hop.toad.com
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Tattoo City
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 20:20:54 GMT
Organization: Charnel House Prod.

dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
: 
: Warning to anyone who was going to visit San Francisco in August
: and was hoping to get tattooed by Freddy Corbin.  He is going
: to be on a well-earned vacation for the entire month.  He will
: be back in september.

Damn, so much for my oh-so-tentative plan of getting another one
before visiting Japan...


  VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
             Mason Jones           Charnel House Productions
             P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco 94117-0277 U.S.A.
   ...{uunet,sun}!hoptoad!dante!mason   or   dante!mason@hop.toad.com
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: mlw@cisco.com (Monica Waldman)
Subject: Re: Help my nostril
Organization: ()
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:26:46 GMT

In article <MILT.92Jul31103212@primus.esd.sgi.com> milt@sgi.com (Milt Tinkoff) writes:
>Well, I got my nostril and eyebrow pierced at Gauntlet in SF last
>Saturday.  The eyebrow is healing nicely, no crusties, oozing, or
>blood.  My nostril, however, is a bit red and gets the hard yellow
>clear stuff around the hole.  I've been cleaning it with the regular
>ear care stuff Gauntlet gave me, but the crusties have trouble
>dissolving and end up getting painfully ripped off when I try turning
>the ring.
>
>Any good advice?

Yeah, call the Gauntlet and ask them about it.

-- 
standard disclaimer, etc. ad nauseum

"Would you please shut up and sit down?" -- George Bush
From: mwise@pub2.bu.edu (Matthew Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Advice Wanted!
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:55:26 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <2A6DE5FC.12555@noiro.acs.uci.edu> dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe) writes:
>In article <hurd.711837174@sfu.ca> hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd) writes:
>>mbohl@uceng.UC.EDU (Michael Bohl) writes:
>>>I have been condsidering getting an apadravya (sp?).  Is there anyone

 [various well considered responses deleted]

>(we are talking about a piercing that runs vertically through
>the penis, right?) (does it matter where it is? i know the faq say
>through the glans or right behind it, but i wouldnt think it
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>would matter that much)

 I was flipping through a back issue of PFIQ to check on this  
and found mention of the fact that the further behind the glans you
pierce (all the way through the penis, that is) the more likely
is serious nerve damage. 
 As I understand it, an apadravya goes through the glans.  You could use
a P/A hole to start it, but then you'd have to pitch the P/A.
 BTW my own preference (after getting a P/A) would be to get a 
reverse P/A; ie, in the urethra and out the top.

Be well,
Matt
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: axtell@cray.com (Maureen Axtell)
Subject: found:  exquisite tattoo artist
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: rec.arts.bodyart
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:07:25 CDT

Being the picky person I am, I figured I'd never find an artist
to finish the right half of my back.  See, there was this horsehead
sitting right on the shoulderblade right in the middle of everything.
Being my first piece, it had sentimental value - but it clashed with
the snow leopards on the other side.

Colorado Springs is only recently my home, and I was feeling a bit
lonely for my bodyart friends in Minneapolis.  The cure seemed to be 
to visit a local tat shop - maybe get a small piece, make a couple 
friends.  So I wander into Middle Earth Tattoos and wander out with
a design for a back piece/coverup.     

Ok, so I'm an impulsive shopper! :>)  

Jugghead, the artist, designed a scene with a another leopard on 
a tree branch with lots of ferns and leaves and jungle stuff around
it. And an incredible amount of detail.  Just the outline obscured
the horsehead to the point most people couldn't tell it was there.
And the head was about 4" in diameter (all black work) so this was
not trivial.

With only a couple more hours to go, the color is mostly done now.
The quality is comparable with Kari Barber's work (maybe better!)
a whole lot less expensive and you don't need to wait forever for
an appt.

Middle Earth Tattoos
615 S. Nevada
Colorado Springs, Co.

719-632-7661

........ how long before I can scratch this thing?
From: alewis@ds5000.coe.northeastern.edu (Drew Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Tat artist in Philly
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:09:34 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University

Can anyone recommend a Tat artist in Philly?

mail me with the info,please

Drew Lewis  alewis@ds5000.dac.northeastern.edu / as149@cleveland.freenet.edu
          Warning: Government is hazardous to your health
     Save me from those who would pass laws to protect me from myself
"The right to take drugs, the right to an abortion, the right to suicide, the 
right for people to engage in private, consensual sexual activity, be it
commercial or not, these are all interconnected.  The loss of any one of
these rights diminishes the strength of the others, giving the govenment more
control over the bodies of those it governs -- control it should never have."
From: goudal@aquilon.greco-prog.fr (Frederic GOUDAL)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: 12 ga.
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:54:49 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: GRECO Programmation du CNRS - Bordeaux,France

In article <hurd.711144168@sfu.ca>, hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd) writes:
>lc2e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lynn Evette Clarke) writes:
>>what exactly does 12 ga. mean?
>>=-p-=
> 
>ga. is wire gauge & follows the usual wire gauge standard.  Note that 
>smaller numbers are thicker wire.  Check out the bailing wire in your
>hardware store for an idea of what the gauges are in real life.

I love this answer...
I was wainting for a precise answer to this question and it did not come, so
I ask it more precisely : here in france, wire is sell with a
diameter, or for electric wire with a surface measure, so can any good
soul tell me what is the correspondance between gauge an diamteter
(and please if you had this in milimeters !!!!). (I hope I don't ask
too much !!!).

About piercing, here in France it's forbidden to pierce somebody, so
the only piercer I know just have a little sign in his shop (he does
tattoo as main activity) for ear and nostril piercing. This last is
becoming more common here, but I never saw other piercing...

a ciao,
Frederic.


-- 

goudal@geocub.greco-prog.fr          "Why can't we reach the sun?"
oral-mail : babbs			 Pink Floyd
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From: gremlin@buhub.bradley.edu (Stephanie Udry)
Subject: length of cleaning?
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 03:50:59 GMT

how long do you need to clean nipple piercings?

mine are almost 2 mths old..i clean them twice a day, using a bit of hydro
peroxide to get the crust off the outside, and then hibiclens diluted half
and half

i've been told to be careful about dryuing out my nipples, so i really need
to know

thanks

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From: fredj@wang.com (Fast Freddie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: tattoo vs. skinned knee
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:10:20 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alan S. Ferrency) writes:

>Not including infections introduced by the tattooing process itself (ie
>anything on the needles, machine, ink, tattooer, etc), is a tattoo any more
>likely to become infected than something like a skinned knee?  It seems like
>they're both open wounds of a similar nature.  The only thing I can think of

I cannot answer for all tattoo shops, but the needle is sterile and so
should the ink be.  When you skin your knee you have the skin removed ( or
part of it ) sometimes it is put back on (like a flap).  and if you fall
off of your tricycle, :-)  dirt (usually not sterile :-) ) is imbedded into
the wound.  I'd much rather get a tattoo.

>that would be different is people try to take care of tattoos in a different
>manner so they don't form as much scar tissue.  Also, the incidence of
>infection (the faq mentioned something like 1 in 1000 tattoos the person saw,
>or something) seems to be about the same (ie really really low).

>Any opinions/ facts?

>-me
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: tomg@mishima.mn.org (Thomas Greenwalt)
Subject: Re: Bodyprints
Organization: Alternative Realities
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1992 23:54:57 GMT

zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey) writes:
> In article <BrGx36.oq@mishima.mn.org> tomg@mishima.mn.org (Thomas Greenwalt)  
> writes:
> >
> names of companies and product please.
> 
The product is called BodyPrints (temporary tattoos)
Distributed by:  Highgate Products
					  3200 Main Street
				     Dallas, TX  75226  No phone number.

Made in England.

> i often use magic markers to work out designs before 'commiting' them. I 
> also photocopy onto clear acetate, trim them and 'try them out' getting a
> feel for how it will look in relation to your muscuskelatel layout is 
> important.
> 
A friend who is an artist drew a wonderful design on my right hand which
has fairly long nails, that extended up my arm, creating sort of a surrealist
claw.  Thats something that if I was in a more liberal workplace, (like I
owned the company), I would love to have permanently done.

-- 
Thomas S. Greenwalt (Tom-Too)                                  (612)866-1344
7300 Nicollet Ave. South                         tomg@mishima.mishima.mn.org 
Mpls, MN  55423
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