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Date:         Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:56:30 CST
Reply-To:     Antonis.Tsolomitis@MATH.TAMU.EDU
From:         Antonis.Tsolomitis@MATH.TAMU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Makedoviko kai "apeiln polemou"
Comments: To: hellas@brownvm.brown.edu

> Deytero, tnrei adiallaktn stasn, afoy arveitai ka0e ap' ey0eias diapragmateysn
> oxi movo tns ovomasias, alla kai toy snmavtikoteroy problnmatos poy afora to
> Syvtagma toy kratidioy, me toys Skopiavoys. Apotelesma? Ta faivomeva amoibaias
> drasns-avtidrasns poy odngnsav s' aytn thv adieksodn krisn kai divoyv edafos
> stoys ekstremistes. (Kai dev eivai movo to VMRO me safn boylgarikn ypostnriksn

Ma eivai dyvatov va syzntnsei n Ellada me ta Skopia gia to pws
va allaksei to syvtagma tous.Prwtov,afto eivai diko tous 0ema,
kai defterov,to syvtagma eivai eva xarti kai tipota parapavw,to
opoio dev eivai dyvatov va pistepsoume akoma kai av allaksei kai
givei "filiko" pros tnv Ellada.H arxikn tou morfn omws eivai evdeiktikn
twv apopsewv tous peri kalns geitovias.




> poy steketai apo tn mia meria, alla kai oi dikoi mas oi "pemptofalaggites" apo
> tnv alln). Av prosekses, Pavagiwtn, se teleytaia dnmoskopnsn (prosfatn <E>)
 mia
> megaln pleiopsnfia twv Skopiavwv 0eloyv  thv eirnvikn syvyparksh me tnv Ellada
> eivai stnv perioxn kai movo 17% dnlwse oti to evdiaferei to ovoma toy kratoys
 toys.

Afto omws dev tous baftizei <<kalous>>geitoves.Afto eivai logikn syvepeia .
to exouv avagkn.Fysika kai dev evdiaferete n pleiopsnfia gia
to ovoma <<Makedovia>>.O Gligorov omws ti logous exei
va epimevei;giati afou o laos tou dev evdiaferete(mia kai dev eivai
Makedoves)dev ypoxwrei;



> Tetarto, se mia epoxn oikovomikns oloklnrwsns stnv Eyrwpn, ti 0esn va  'xoyv
 oi
> perixarakseis syvorwv? H ti snmasia n yparksn 'h n avyparksia evos kratidioy
 me
> to A n to B ovoma? To ksepndnma tetoiwv kratwv kai kratidiwv  movo sa mia
> proskairn kai mallov avaxrovistikn parev0esn moy faivetai, avamesa stis
> isopedwtikes allages poy symbaivoyv stnv Eyrwpn.

Afto av katalabaivw kala, eivai erwtnsn kai gia tous Skopiavous.Etsi
dev eivai;Esy bebaia to blepeis af 'ypsnlou.Giati omws dev exouv
tnv idia apopsn kai oi Germavoi kai o fasismos tous ksavafouvtwvei;
Ksereis oti n Germavikn kybervnsn avysnxei idietera gia ta teleutaia
gegovota,ara dev 0ewrn0nkav amelntea.Dev eivai loipov toso
apln n katargnsn twv syvorwv.




> Pempto, o polemos, Avtwvn, dev mporei va eivai "esxatn lysn" giati aploystata
> dev apotelei lysn. Akoma ki av mia mera kapoioi apofasisoyv va "perpatnsoyme"
> ws ta Skopia, ti 0a petyxoyme? Kai ti 0a givei meta? 0a fygoyme, 0a meivoyme,
> 0a kapsoyme, ti?


Lewvida,stamata va mou milas gia polemo les kai egrapsa pote oti tov
ypostnrizw.Avti0eta egrapsa av 0umase oti o polemos eivai avontos
kai katastrofikos eks orismou.Se parakalw mnv bgazeis symperasmata
ta opoia eivai toulaxistov af0aireta.To movo pou isxyris0nka
(kai isxyrizomai)eivai oti oi evvoies <<polemos>>kai <<apeiln>>
dev eivai idies!Pes oti syvdeovtai pes oti n mia mporei
va paragei tnv alln,pes oti s'aresei,syvdesetes opws 0es,idies dev eivai
me tipota!Dev ypostnrizw kamia ,oute tov polemo ,oute tnv apeiln,
idies dev eivai,kai dev 0a givouv pote!Dev vomizw epitelous
oti xreiazete kaveis apo emas leksiko gia va to katalabei afto.
Kai epeidn etoimos eisai va paravonseis pali,sto ksavalew oti dev
ypostnrizw kamia apo aftes.Av 0es va ksavagrapseis gia polemo
mnv apeu0yvese se meva.




> Lewvidas
> Birmingham
>
> PS: Kai twra gia kapoioys geloioys "e0vikofroves", apo dw kai kei, poy makria
> apo tn fwtia milave gia tn fwtia (poy 0a kapsei alloys bebaiws), va mnv
> arxisoyme ta gamostayridia Kyriakatika.

Gia sobarefteite pou ma0ate oloi sas va brizete toso efkola.Oxi
va mnv arxiseis ta gamostauridia giati kaveis apo emas pou
se gvwrizei dev se exei gia afto to epipedo.Kai va 0umwseis
mazi mou gia aftn tnv paragrafo dev exei snmasia.0ewreis oti kapoioi
kavouv la0os se mia koubevta....,dnladn av esy kaveis kapoio la0os
se mia syzntnsn pisteueis oti oi ypoloipoi prepei va arxisouv va
se diaolostelvouv;Afto to skopo eksypnretei aftn n lista;


Avtwvns Tsolomitis
Tmnma Ma0nmatikwv
The Ohio State University &
Texas A&M University.
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