HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      IFCSS HQ Special Report 4019: Phone Number of All Congressmen
Reply-To: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:02:47 -0400
Comments: To: ccnl@utarlvm1.uta.edu, cgsa@fuzzy.umd.edu,
              china-news-post@mentor.cc.purdue.edu, china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu,
              cnd-us@library.uta.edu, osu.chinese@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu,
              soc-culture-china@ucbvax.berkeley.edu,
              soc-rights-human@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

**************************************************************
IFCSS Headquarters Special Report No. 4018       July 29, 1992
         PHONE/FAX NUMBERS OF ALL HOUSE MEMBERS
**************************************************************
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS)
   733 15th Street, N.W., Suite 440, Washington, D.C.20005
         Tel. (202)347-0017  Fax: (202)347-0018
                Email: ifcss@wam.umd.edu

         Phone/Fax Numbers of All House Members
         ======================================

Dear IFCSS Members:

     With the help of some students in the University of
Pennsylvania and Virginia Tech, the IFCSS HQ has created a
computer list of the Phone/Fax numbers of all House
members. It is a very long document. Mr. Ding Jian,
the manager of the lobby-net, is putting the document into
an automatic search system and instructions will soon be
given out as to how to get the document by yourself.

     The document will be useful when the bill comes to
the House Floor for debate and vote. (schedule not made
yet). Generally speaking, the most effective way of lobbying
is to contact Congressmen from your local area. But, it
won't hurt if you contact other Congressmen to express
your support for the legislation.

     You may also find out who is from your area in the
list.

     Special thanks go to Yue Ning, Hwang Kai, Ran Hoe,
Wang Damin and Li Xiaoguang for helping this project.

     Thanks for your attention.

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         IFCSS Headquarters Office    Signature
***************************************************************
Xref: sparky talk.politics.china:264 soc.culture.taiwan:11151
From: 43JIANG%CUA.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      fax numbers
Reply-To: 43JIANG%CUA.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:06:00 EDT

We got the fax numbers of House Rules Committee Members. Hope these are
big help to the lobby.


The following are names and phone and fax numbers (area code: 202) of House
Rules Committee Members:


  name                        Phone#     Fax#

Joe Moakley        Ma, Chair 225-8273   225-3984
Butler Derrick     SC        225-5301   reserved for press only
Anthony Beilenson  Ca        225-5911   reserved for press only
Martin Frost       Tx        225-3605   reserved for press only
David Bonior       Mi        225-2106   226-1169
Tony Hall          Oh        225-6465   225-9272
Alan Wheat         Mo        225-4535   225-5990
Bart Gordon        Tn        225-4231   225-6887
Louise Sloughter   NY        225-3615   225-5526
Gerald Solomon     NY        225-5614   225-6234
James Quillen      Tn        225-6356   225-7812
David Dreier       Ca        225-2305   225-4745
Bob McEwen         Oh        225-5705   225-0224



Xiaoping
Catholic University, DC
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Sen Hu <hu@MATH.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      Sign off
Reply-To: Sen Hu <hu@MATH.NWU.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:17:55 CDT

Sign off
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: CNEWS@conan.ie.orst.edu
Subject:      Re: Appeal to SVC ( Was: Re: The Fourth Term IFCSS Council
Reply-To: CNEWS@conan.ie.orst.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:39:29 PDT
Comments: To: zuofeng@POLLUX.WUSTL.EDU, CHINA-NT@uga.cc.uga.edu

> From:       Zuofeng Li <zuofeng@POLLUX.WUSTL.EDU>
> Subject:    Appeal to SVC ( Was: Re: The Fourth Term IFCSS Council News
>             Release CN4003)

> With the understanding that IFCSS activists are busy lobbying the
> protection bill, I however would like to call your attention to one
> of the bills that our Council has passed. The bill in question
> is the communication expense reimbursement, CR4006, which makes
> council members entitled to an automatic monthly $20 pay to cover
> possible communication expenses, and allows them to receive
> reimbursement for their expenses over the $20 allocation. What it
> doesn't say is what happens when the council members do not spend
> the $20 every month.
>......
> I appeal to the SVC to provide an answer to the non-announcement
> question of the Council's first e_mail conference and to rule on
> the legality of the results of the conference.
>
> Zuofeng Li

  I agree with your appeal.  The MAXIMUM, in stead of minimum, amount for
  reimbursement should be set up.  The automatic monthly payment to
  cover POSSIBLE communication expenses is UNREASONABLE.  Another technical
  question is how to tell their monthly communication expense is council
  activity cost or personal call costs?

  ZK Xu
  Oregon State University
 reimbursement
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: D-P Deng <deng@BNLUX1.BNL.GOV>
Subject:      The Protection Bill and MFN Bill
Reply-To: D-P Deng <deng@BNLUX1.BNL.GOV>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:22:55 EDT
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

I noticed that some IFCSS GaoGan tried hard to manipulate CSS: show your
support for the MFN bill to your congresspersons, your congresspersons will
support the protection bill. What a naked show of low life!

Fortunately I believe many CSS have enough common sense and know when and how
to lobby the protection bill, they also have enough conscience to oppose the
sugar-coated MFN bill targeting at punishing their very own innocent hard
working countrymen and countrywomen.

Go with your hearts, folks! Cheers!
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      IFCSS HQ Special Report 4010: House Passed Conditional MFN Bill
Reply-To: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:15:56 -0400
Comments: To: china-news-post@mentor.cc.purdue.edu, china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu,
              cnd-us@library.uta.edu, osu.chinese@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu,
              soc-culture-china@ucbvax.berkeley.edu,
              soc-rights-human@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

**************************************************************
IFCSS Headquarters Special Report No. 4010:       July 21, 1992
          U.S. House Passed Conditional MFN Bill
**************************************************************
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS)
   733 15th Street, N.W., Suite 440, Washington, D.C.20005
         Tel. (202)347-0017  Fax: (202)347-0018
                Email: ifcss@wam.umd.edu


           U.S. House Passed Conditional MFN Bill
           ======================================

Dear IFCSS Members:

     U.S. House of Representatives passed bill H.R. 5318
to provide for conditional renewal of China's most-favored-
nation (MFN) status this afternoon. The voting result was
339 yeas and 62 nays.

     Thanks for your attention.

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         IFCSS Headquarters Office    Signature
***************************************************************
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: "NY." <yue@MOHLSUN.PHYSICS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      the Bill numner is s1216 for sure
Reply-To: "NY." <yue@MOHLSUN.PHYSICS.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 13:25:25 EST
Comments: To: CHINA-NT@uga.cc.uga.edu

    I received the message from IFCSS HQ. This time I am pretty sure
the bill number indeed is S1216(I was suggested to do so by HQ to
clarify any confusions on this matter.) Actually after I posted my
mails about which bill it should be, I received several messages from
those who also thought the bill number was HR3871.
    The House picked up the Senate Bill S1216 instead of its own bill.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      A open letter to SVC, Council, HQ and all CSS, stop the chaos!
Reply-To: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:47:00 EDT

SVC, Council, HQ and all CSS, stop the chaos immediately! Everydody, please
stop all inner struggle. Form a united lobby task force in one day. I agree
with WU Jinnan, Zhao as chair, V chair, Geng Xiao and Huang Yuan-geng. D.Zhou
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: "D. Liang" <C0199%UNIVSCVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: "D. Liang" <C0199%UNIVSCVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:26:52 EDT

>It is obviously that Zhao made a mistake and probably used old signature
>file to send out the email. He may feel a little bit embarrassed himself.
>But, are we a bunch of pin heads and so intolerant?  Do we have
>something else more important to do instead of writing such a small thing
>to the net. I guess professor Li must be tenured already and really takes
>an easy life.

>Liu zhiping
>Florida State University

Zhao deserves the critisizm because of his position. As a public figure,
one should be careful of every word he/she says and every deed he/she does.
Your defence to Zhao's mistakes sounded similar to CCP's defence to Mao's.
If people are tolerant to politicians, they will suffer as we did before.

BTW, Dr. Li's personal life has nothing to do with his critic style.
Who says that a professor can't be sarcastic? Lu Xun was a professor at
Beijing Girl Normal University, wasn't he? Do you think it's better be
hypercritic than sarcastic? Personally, I prefer the latter one. 8=D

D-L
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Jinghong Li <jli@AMSC01.ENGR.UDAYTON.EDU>
Subject:      Appeal to IFCSS SVC - Who is the President ???
Reply-To: Jinghong Li <jli@AMSC01.ENGR.UDAYTON.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:46:03 EDT
Comments: To: CHINA-NT@UGA.BITNET, agyxp@asuvm.inre.asu.edu,
              clu@biomed.med.yale.edu, ifcss@wam.UMD.EDU, liu@cae.wisc.edu,
              luo@goshawk.lanl.gov, svc@cae.wisc.edu,
              v007wvf9%ubvms@uunet.UU.NET

Dear IFCSS SVC,

This is to appeal to you to clarify the current Presidency of IFCSS
immediately.

During the last two days, the former President, Mr. Zhao Haiqing, has
more than once used the title of "President of IFCSS" in his
mail to the public.  This has caused a great deal of confusion among
all concerned readers.

Many people thought that Mr. Zhao forgot to change the mail header in
his posts.  However, from what I was told and again verified by a mail
from Mr. Yang Guang who has been with Zhao recently, Mr. Zhao actually
beleive he is still the president of IFCSS, and is acting on behalf of
the IFCSS in the public.

It is so important that the IFCSS Consitution requires a clear
responsiblity of her Presidency at all time.  It is also extramely
important that no one should be slef-labled as the IFCSS President.

Therefore, as a current Council member, I hereby formally appeal to
you, the IFCSS SVC:

1.  Clarify the IFCSS Presidency immediately;

2.  Prohibit any non-authorized, illegel use of IFCSS official
    titles in any form, at any time.

3.  Inform your decision to the Current HQ, the former President
    and the public as soon as possible;


Thank you for your attention.

Jinghong Li
Council Member
U of Dayton
July 23, 1992
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Nandi Xie <nxie@OUCSACE.CS.OHIOU.EDU>
Subject:      Re:  stop the ugly things on this Net!
Reply-To: Nandi Xie <nxie@OUCSACE.CS.OHIOU.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:02:08 EDT
Comments: To: CHINA-NT@uga.cc.uga.edu, netnews@hickory.engr.utk.edu

I agree with "News Lovers".
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Zhanguo Duan <zgd@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU>
Subject:      Strange reaction from one congressman's staff
Reply-To: Zhanguo Duan <zgd@CSD4.CSD.UWM.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:38:52 CDT
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

Hi netters:

One of the board member of the Student Assocaition of China at UWM reported
such a strange reaction from a staff of congressman James Quillen, Tn,
(202-225-6356), the staff told our board member that he had received a lot
calls, but he said we should call Judiciary Committee members not Rules
Committee members, James Quillen won't vote... It happened just a moment ago.

But the reaction from the staff of other congressmen are fine, some are
very positive. BTW, when I called James Quillen's office, I didn't get
such strange response.

Another congressman, David Dreier, Ca, (202-225-2305), seems haven't got
enough calls from us, his staff was confused a little bit at first when
our board member called, he thought S1216 was in Senate.
From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: Another way to calculate economic strength
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:14:36 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.china
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <1992Jul22.201451.3843@infoserver.th-darmstadt.de> D61O@br2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de (One of 100 millions ZHANGs) writes:
>On the other hand, the German Federal Bank is politically an independent
>organization, what was the reason a lot german politicians recently have
>blamed it because its money-policy.

That brings up another point........

In any sort of democratic China, economic policy must be somewhat
insulated from day-to-day politics.  The problem is that politicians
have the great temptation to use the money supply for their own
political benefit.  For example, before an election, a politician is
tempted to pressure the central bank to increase the money supply.  In
the long run, this will cause inflation and will be bad for the
economy.  In the short run, this will cause an artifical boost in
economic production, which will help win elections.

Another problem that democracies sometimes have is the inability to
take measure which hurt in the short term and are beneficial in the
long term.  An example is the U.S. Federal Budget.  The budget is
running a deficit of over US$400 billion/year and growing, and no one
seems to be able to do anything about it.  Politically too unpopular.




Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Third open letter to the council, waiting for public reply!
Reply-To: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:59:00 EDT

Cuncil, Mr. Geng Xiao had nominated Zhao as the chair of CSSA many days ago.
Council emmediate action to approve the nomination is urgent and necessary for
forming a united lobby leader team and to win the lobby. waiting reply. D.Zhou
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      IFCSS HQ SR-4025: Sample Letter for Chinese Students
Reply-To: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:22:54 -0400
Comments: To: ccnl@utarlvm1.uta.edu, cgsa@fuzzy.umd.edu,
              china-news-post@mentor.cc.purdue.edu, china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu,
              cnd-us@library.uta.edu, council@venus.physics.emory.edu,
              osu.chinese@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu,
              soc-culture-china@ucbvax.berkeley.edu,
              soc-rights-human@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

**************************************************************
IFCSS Headquarters Special Report No. 4025       July 30, 1992
               Sample Letter for Chinese Students
**************************************************************
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS)
   733 15th Street, N.W., Suite 440, Washington, D.C.20005
         Tel. (202)347-0017  Fax: (202)347-0018
                Email: ifcss@wam.umd.edu


                Sample Letter for Chinese Students
                ==================================

Dear IFCSS Members:

     The following is a sample letter for Chinese students.
It is written by Shi Heping of Virginia Tech.
-------------------------------------------------------------
                                                  Date

Honorable ----------
Address

Dear Congressman (woman) ___:

We are writing to ask that you lend your support to the 1992
Chinese Student Protection Bill (S1216, which is pending in the House.

We still remember and remain grateful to the concern shown by the
Congress to Chinese students in the wake of the "June 4th Massacre,"
an event that led many of us to stand up for democracy in defiance
of potential reprisal and persecution. The protection for Chinese
nationals later provided by the President's Executive Order was, in
a great degree, the result of Congressional effort.

More than three years have passed since the brutal crackdown in
1989. Tremendous changes have taken place around the world. The
Chinese government, however, has remained recalcitrant and
consistently demonstrated its determination to resist the
historical tide of democracy. The Chinese people are still
deprived of basic human rights, thousands of political prisoner
are languishing in dark cells, and recently, Bao Tong, top advisor
to former Communist Party General Secretary Zhao Zhiyang, was
sentenced to seven years of imprisonment because of his alleged
involvement in the democracy movement of 1989.

This being the situation, we cannot but feel apprehension at the
prospect of returning to China upon the expiration of the current
presidential protection, which is to be January 1, 1994. Therefore,
once again we turn to you for help. Please vote "Yes" on ___ (bill
number).

Thank you.

(signed)

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         IFCSS Headquarters Office    Signature
***************************************************************
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: ylq@lems23lems.brown.edu (Yan Shen)
Subject: Re: Vice President of Oregon State U. Lobbying for Chinese Immigration
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 21:16:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.200211.2482@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, hengyi@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Heng-Yi Chao) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul26.181222.4557@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> "Raymond C. Luh" <luh@NAS.NASA.GOV> writes:
|> >>Zhongkai Xu
|> >>Vice President
|> >>Oregon State University
|> >
|> >Is Vice President Xu speaking for the President of OSU? :-)
|> >
|> >
|> >Ray
|> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> >|  Raymond C. Luh        |  So many deeds cry out to be done always urgently.  |
|> >|  (415)-604-4494        |  The world rolls on.  Time presses.                 |
|> >|  luh@ame.nas.nasa.gov  |  Seize the day.  Seize the hour.   --  Mao Zedong   |								   ??????????
|> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> Sorry.
|> Is this the killer who should be dead for a million times on mainland China ?
|> Please do not talk about "immigration" and admire him simmultaneously.
|> Don't you think it's funny ?
|> 
|> When you guys who are so enthusiastic for the immigration,
|> is there anyone thinking about Chinese on mainland ?
|> Also, the departed spirits under the tanks on Taienmoon Square ?
|> It is your freedom to choose your future,
|> but please do it SILENTLY !
|> It is not such a GREAT task that you can be PROUD of ! sigh!

You barked at the wrong tree and screwed things up. Ray has been fighting much 
harder than you have againest that bill, though I've never appreciated for that.
have a good day !
From: H2BR0002%SMUVM1.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (shengyi guo)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Same message from James Quileen's Office
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:15:34 GMT
Reply-To: shengyi guo <H2BR0002%SMUVM1.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Organization: Indiana University

When I called James Quileen's office, I got the following message
similar to what others have got.

The bill is in Judiciary Committee right now, it will go to the
Rules Committee after that.  The form of the bill may have
already been changed by the time it comes to the Rules Committee.
By that time, we may well want an OPEN rule instead of a CLOSED
rule. So for now, call the Judiciary Committee instead of the
Rules Committee.

So it seems that the target now should be the Judiciary committee,
who are they and what are their telephone numbers ?

cc:IFCSS
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      IFCSS HQ SR-4026: Lobby Database Established
Reply-To: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:12:34 -0400
Comments: cc: ccnl@utarlvm1.uta.edu

**************************************************************
IFCSS Headquarters Special Report No. 4026:      July 31, 1992
            Protection Bill Database Established
**************************************************************
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS)
   733 15th Street, N.W., Suite 440, Washington, D.C.20005
         Tel. (202)347-0017  Fax: (202)347-0018
                Email: ifcss@wam.umd.edu

           Protection Bill Database Established
           ====================================

Dear IFCSS Members:

With many peoples' hard work, a comprehensive LOBBY
database has been compiled and can be retrieved aumatically
through email. To retrieve the information from the
database, send your mail to

      LISTSERV@KENTVM.BITNET
with first line saying:
      GET LOBBY PACKAGE   (please don't any add other words)


To retrieve any single file in this package, please send mail to
       LISTSERV@KENTVM.BITNET
with first line saying:
       GET filename filetype   (for example: GET BILL TEXT)

A list of file names in the package can be found below.

For technical help, please contact b366jdx@utarlvm1.bitnet.

------------------------------------------------------
                Files in the LOBBY PACKAGE

1. File name:  HOUSE DIR    (Provided by the HQ)
   (type GET HOUSE DIR to retrieve this individually)

     This file includes a complete Directory of House Representatives,
     sorted in STATE order.


2. File name:  BILL TEXT    (Input by IFCSS HQ)
   (type GET BILL TEXT to retrieve this file individually)

     This file includes a complete text of bill S1216 and a brief intro.


3. File name:  CURRENT STATUS  (Input by IFCSS HQ and CCSA)
   (type GET CURRENT STATUS to retrieve this file individually)

     This file will be updated frequently and will include the most
up-to-date development of the lobby and our lobby strategy.


4. File name:  SAMPLE LETTERS (Input by IFCSS HQ, CCSA and other CSS)
   (type GET SAMPLE LETTERS to retrieve this file individually)

     This file includes 6 sample letters input by various people.


5. File name:  LOBBY COORD    (Input by IFCSS HQ)
   (type GET LOBBY COORD to retrieve this file individually)

     This file includes information about nation wide lobby coordination.


6. File name:  TALKING POINTS   (Input by IFCSS CCSA)
   (type GET TALKING POINTS to retrieve this file individually)

     This file includes some talking points which will be useful for
telephone and in-person lobby.

     Thanks for your attention.


***************************************************************
         IFCSS Headquarters Office    Signature
***************************************************************
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      A open letter to council
Reply-To: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:01:00 EDT

Council, let stop any inner struggle. Approve Zhao haiqing as the chairman
of CSSA to be in charge the lobby. Geng Xiao should support Zhao's lobby
work. Zhao need the title in lobby immediately. Immediate action. dawei Zhou
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china