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From: chem91@Elroy.UH.EDU ("Bill Harrison (713)-743-2789")
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Why Liverpool????
Date: 6 Jan 1993 15:31:29 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: chem91@Elroy.UH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu

[...]
>
>Steve
>
>Support Your LOCAL team!!!!
>


I couldn't agree more...  (I'm a *passionate* AFC Bournemouth follower). 
Here are some reasons to support locally:

* you get once(?)-in-a-lifetime experiences like AFCB knocking Man U out
of the FA cup in the 3rd round (1984).

* you get to travel to new and exciting places like Wigan and Colchester.

* the quility of lower-division stadia can sometimes be a little down 
market, but isn't that all part of the experience???

Go Cherries!!!

Bill


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: harin@iti.gov.sg (Harinderpal Singh)
Subject: World Cup Qualifier News
Originator: harin@heidi.iti.gov.sg
Reply-To: harin@iti.gov.sg
Organization: Information Technology Institute National Computer Board
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:08:53 GMT


Just some bits of news that came in over the last two weeks:

1)	Libya and Myanmar have officially pulled out of the World Cup
	Qualifiers. For those of you who are keeping track of the 
	groupings, Libya was in African Group D and Myanmar was in
	Asia Group 2.

2)	The Angola - Zimbabwe game in African group C that was postponed
	from the 25th of October 1992, is now scheduled for this Sunday
	10 January 1993. 

3)	The Asian Qualifier venues and fixtures are being announced group
	by group. As far as I know,
	Group 2 will be playing in Tehran (Iran) and Damascus (Syria).
	Group 3 will be playing in Singapore and Qatar.
	Group 4 will be playing in Beirut (Lebanon) and Seoul (S Korea)

	Games for most of the groups are scheduled to commence in mid-May.
	The 6 group winners will play a Second Round tournament in Nov-Dec.

Thats all for now. Happy 1993 to all r.s.s readers.

Cheers,
	Harin
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From: james@hisoft.com (James C. Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re:  Celtic domination (Was: SSL super...don't make me laugh
Date: 12 Jan 1993 17:15:36 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:

-> J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (J.M.Ross) writes:
-> >In article <1993Jan12.115517.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> clgs11@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
-> >(don't any of these guys have names?) writes:
-> >>In article <MNEWS.726685667.1417@demon.co.uk>, J.M.Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk 
-> >>J.M.Ross) writes:
-> >>> In article <C0JoID.8L3@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David
-> >>> Morning) writes:
-> >>>>mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
-> >>
-> > Indeed, that was nine seasons when Celtic dominated totally in
-> >terms of trophies, but not in terms of playing, Rangers were good enough to
-> >reach a couple of European finals during that era too.
-> Funny guy :-) Nope, Celtic dominated in playing terms too, that's why they
-> raced away with the league so many times.

Please correct me if I am wrong, but I remember looking at those
years and noting that in Celtic's best year during that streak, Rangers
were but two point behind...  If that is "racing away" how do you
describe the current situation?  "Rocketing away?"  "Light-Speeding
away?"

-> >  I assume Dave Morning
-> >was referring to the years immediately before the Souness revival, 
-> Nope, I was deliberately unspecific because I expected someone to bleat "BUT
-> THAT WAS 30 YEARS AGO!!"

So here you admit that you intentionally attempted to deceive.  Not a 
good way to establish and defend your argument.

-> >which is more
-> >relevant than events of 20-30 years ago.
-> Why is it more relavent to what we were discussing..namely 'the obsession
-> that the huns have for what Celtic are doing"?

Perhaps because more of the huns remember it?  Or do you wish to argue
that the obsession is related to something outside memory?

-> Of course the misery didn't stop after Celtic's run finished, I recall Rangers
-> having a pretty turgid time of it in the early 80's too with the likes of
-> Tommy Docherty and John Greig in charge. Of course the did win a couple but
-> all in all it was a pretty roller-coaster ride at the time.

As it was for Celtic, looking up at first Dundee United and then
Aberdeen...

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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Re: SUGGESTION FOR WORLD CUP GAMES ENDING IN TIES
Organization: Wits University
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 12:30:20 RSA

In article <1993Jan9.014529.21612@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
rgj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (RICHARD G. JOHNSTON) writes:
 
>
>The penalty kick procedure used to end tie games during the World Cup is, in
>my opinion, a poor solution to the problem. Here is my alternative to breaking
>ties. At the end of regulation make both sides play with only nine players for
>some period of time, maybe 10 minutes. If the game is still tied 1 more player
>would be pulled from each side every five or ten minutes. With such an
>approach at least the game would be determined on the field. Anyone who has
>played soccer realizes fewer players on the same size pitch opens up the game.  previous
>World Cup had too many teams trying to play to play to a scoreless tie in
>order to take their chances with penalty kicks. Any other alterantives?
 
A most brilliant suggestion !!!!
 
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From: sid@netcom.com (Sid Dastkar)
Subject: Sao Paulo vs Barcelona (Toyota Cup) on Telemundo (1/10)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Distribution: us
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:19:10 GMT

Hi All:

For those who watched Telemundo last sunday, they already know the
announcement.  For the rest of the fans, Telemundo will show the tape-delay
match at 4PM EST (also 4PM PST here) this sunday.

I expected them to show this match, and glad they will.  In the SF
bay area for those who are not familiar, it can be seen on Ch. 48UHF.

enjoy,
sd.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: ccadeff@sadeff.vislab.olemiss.edu (Sergio Adeff)
Subject: Re: SOCCER NEWSGROUP
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:11:54 GMT

In <1993Jan7.184211.8648@leland.Stanford.EDU> motta@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nazare Motta) writes:

>Hey guys,
>Does anybody there is interested in spliting this newsgroup in two? 
>Something like "Rec.soccer.England" and "Rec.soccer.rest of the world"?
>Nothing against English soccer, really! Just tired of hiting the kill
>file key.
>Could someone, please, post the Italian results more often? How about South
>America soccer for a change? Or even the rest of Europe? 
>Nana

I am of the same oppinion.  English fans are so many on the network that they
leave litle room to others. Rec.sports.soccer.England will do fine.  Any
fan from England wanting to take the lead (may be other nations will follow.)

Good luck to England for the 94, until they meet Argentina, when they will
of couse lose 1 to 0 (hopefully with Maradona keeping his hands out of the
ball)                 

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Arsenal are Hooligans
Organization: Wits University
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 21:17:01 RSA

Ian Wright has been banned for 3 games while the manager George Graham
fined 500 pounds. This must be the umpteenth time Arsenal has been
involved in misbehaviour and hooligan and animal-like behaviour.
They belong in a rugby league where their type of behaviour is more
suited. Who knows, they may even go on to win that type of league.
 
In previous years they have already been involved in incidents with
Norwich and Manchester United, not mentioning all the other incidents
they keep having week after week with other teams. About time the
Football Association did something about the the ARSE...NAL !
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier)
Subject: Re: WC Qual. Groups (Europe)
Reply-To: passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 20:25:21 GMT

In article <01GPZW1L2G9E9OEC4R@vaxc.hofstra.edu>,
ACCGAT@vaxc.hofstra.edu (Garen Tchopourian) writes:
|>
|>Hey guys,
|>
|>  In case if you are interested in who's on top of their groups here is a
|>break_down :
|>
|>  Group1       Group2        Group3        Group4        Group5       Group6
|>  ======       ======        ======        ======        ======       ======
|>1-Switzerl.    Norway        Ireland       Belgium       Greece      
Bulgaria
|>2-Portugal     Poland        Lithuania     Romania       Hungary      Sweden
|>3-Italy        England       N. Ireland    Wales         Russia       France
|>4-Scotland     Turkey        Spain         Czechosol.    Iceland      Israel
|>5-Malta        Netherland    Denmark       Cyprus        Luxembourg   Austria
|>6-Estonia      San Marino    Latvia        Faroe Isl.                 Finland
|>                             Albania
|>			     
|>  I'd like to see some of your predictions on who's gonna come 1st and 2nd in
|>their groups. I'll post mine soon. 
|>

Ok.

  Group1    Group2    Group3    Group4    Group5     Group6

1.Italy     Norway    Ireland   Belgium   Hungary    France
2.Switzerl. Netherlds.N.Irelnd. Romania   Russia     Sweden
                                    
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From: msdloem@cs.vu.nl (Loemban Tobing MSD)
Subject: Re: Italian tournaments
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:34:59 GMT

Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) wrote:

: Does anybody have the results from the Fiorentina-tournament that was held
: last Wednesday (together with Inter and Leeds United)?

Internazionale - Leeds United	2 - 0
Fiorentina - Leeds United	2 - 0
Fiorentina - Internazionale     1 - 0

so, Fiorentina won its tournament, although they were all but beaten by
Internazionale.

: The results of the other Italian tournament:

: 1. Lazio      
: 2. PSV
: 3. Club Brugge


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From: newbery@zonda.atd.ucar.edu (Santiago Newbery)
Subject: Re: SOCCER NEWSGROUP
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 03:01:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.164159.21570@meiko.com>, esp@meiko.co.uk  writes:
|> 
|> In article 7637@fwi.uva.nl, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
|> > motta@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nazare Motta) writes:
|> > 
|> > >Hey guys,
|> > >Does anybody there is interested in spliting this newsgroup in two? 
|> > >Something like "Rec.soccer.England" and "Rec.soccer.rest of the world"?
YES!
|> 
|> Great idea!
YOU BET!
|> 
|> We could call the English newsgroup "Rec.football" and the other "Rec.pretenders"!!
|> 
|> The English game is still the most entertaining NOT!!!, I don't care what anyone says!
|> 
|> Steve
|> 
|> You'll never beat The Gas - A message to any Bristol City fans out there!
|> 
funny how many of those "pretenders" countries always seem to do much better in the
World Cups than the english! :-)
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From: PKARLIOT%KNOX.BITNET@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: The Mighty Liverpool
Date: 12 Jan 1993 15:39:44 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

      Yes, I remember that year.  United had indeed won their first 10 games and
   in a Greek newspaper, there was a line that wrote: "Manchester United is
learning how to multiply!!!".  Well, when it came to the end of the season, they
   faltered and Liverpool won it.
      I hope that United chokes yet again this year.  By the way, Cantona is not
   that good either.
                                                                    Panos
From: cjones@dbaccess.com (Carl Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: SOCCER NEWSGROUP
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:30:54 GMT
Organization: Cross Access Corp., Santa Clara, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

fmhv@minerva.inesc.pt (Fernando Manuel Vasconcelos) writes:
: In article <ccadeff.726617514@sadeff> ccadeff@sadeff.vislab.olemiss.edu (Sergio Adeff) writes:
: 
: But I think We should be better off leaving things as they are and getting a
: good news reader ...
: -- 
I agree!!
However, this implies that follow-up posters "use the same subject" so
that threads can be easily followed!
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From: lang@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John J. Lang)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:15:35 GMT
Subject: Re: US vs England in Boston area
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer

In rec.sport.soccer, rcampb@cac.washington.edu (Russ Campbell ) writes:
> Yeah, I saw the ones on Prime.  That was nice but being in the broadcast
> barbarian lands I don't get SportsChannel and thus have NEVER yet seen the
> US team play.

One piece of potential good news is that Prime and SportsChannel are merging.
Hopefully that means we willg et more Soccer/Football in the western US.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: maga@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (andrea maggi)
Subject: Italian tournament results
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:47:14 GMT

The results of the tournament played in Florence 6/1/93 are:

Inter - Leeds = 2 - 0
Fiorentina - Leeds = 2 - 0
Fiorentina - Inter = 1 - 0

So, Fiorentina won the tournament.

I'm a supporter of Inter team. 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jwk@sequent.com (John "F. Leghorn" Kramer)
Subject: Re: Just another example of the 'fabulous' English
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 14:29:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.102553.9177@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>
>What a two-weeks holiday can do to a person! The last days I was so bored

[Usual cliched English football bashing deleted]

Well, for someone who has such a distain for English football, you seem to
know an awlful lot about it. If it bores you so much as you claim, why
bother watching us at all when you can watch Italia Serie A? I'm not
defending Liverpool and they are getting the crap they so well deserve,
but I find it hard to believe that the English league is the only league
in Europe where Cup upsets happen. Perhaps someone with a Euro Cup
history book can set the record straight. Oh and if it's so unusual for
a weak team to cause an upset, I suggest you have a word with Roger Milla,
yeah, that guy who did lots of dancing around flag poles in a Cameroon
shirt. It's a funny old game Saint...
From: jwk@sequent.com (John "F. Leghorn" Kramer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Liverpool is crap ...
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:03:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan4.170327.16936
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <16B4CFC52.074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za> 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za writes:
>All the hype about Barnes being injured and that all will be alright
>as soon as he is back is turning out to be nothing more than just that : hype.

[ agreeable Liverpool bashing deleted ]

Saw some highlights from the Bolton-Liverpool(2-2) game. Cracking game...from
Bolton's viewpoint, seeing as they are two whole league divisions 
behind Liverpool,with two well worked goals, almost went 3-0 ahead too. First
Liverpool goal was an own goal and the second was a mess. What price
Souness now? Doubt if he'd get a second class train ticket to oblivion, he
would have to walk.
From: pele@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (David J. Duffield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: AYSO and the destruction of american soccer
Date: 9 Jan 1993 04:50:25 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <562@worf.dbaccess.com> cjones@dbaccess.com (Carl Jones) writes:
>AYSO is dedicated to SAFE, FAIR, and FUN
>It is also dedicated to "Everyone Plays".
>It is primarily instructional.
>In that regard, participation and instruction come 
>before competition, which is why it is often referred
>to as a "non-competitive" league.
>
>Because of this attitude (in my humble opinion), it
>attracts a far greater number of participants that if
>it were strictly competitive, had tryouts, etc.
>I believe that this broad spectrum of soccer knowledgeable
>people (parents as well as kids) is necessary to the
>growth and love of soccer in the U.S.

I can't really agree with you on this AYSO thing.  I have grown up in CYSA-S
(CA Youth Soccer Assoc. - South) in San Diego County.  Recreation teams have
no tryouts what so ever.  The registrar and board does their best to create
teams which will be of equal strength so as to have good competition (this
is done by coaches rating players at the end of the previos year, though not
perfect it helps).  Trophies are given for both winning and for just
participating.  

Leagues start at Div 7 (i think that is like U6).  At this point everything
is devoted to having fun and learning basic skills (and teaching kids that
the object of the game is not who can play in the chalk lines the best).  At
U10 through U19 or U23 their are travelling or competetive teams which play
throughout SD County in the Presidio League and require tryouts and such.
In this manner those who are good enough and want to can have the high level
of competition while those who aren't or don't don't have to.  Certain rules
apply to younger age kids as to how long they have to play (usually near 1/2
of the game), but this does not exist in the competetive (or select teams).
These two systems in one club work great together and I feel they are what is
needed to help US Soccer. 

After youth play, the club unofficially has two mens league teams which play
in the SD County Soccer League (a five division league with ten or more teams
per division).  I say unofficially because it is run by the club secretary and
endorsed by the club, but has no official affiliation.  It gives the kids     
something to look up to and strive for.  The biggest problems is with NCAA
rules and not allowing college age players to play in the off season (as if
it actually stops them).

I do agree with the refereeing.  I have refereed since I was 14 in SD County
which has a great system set up (it almost borders on a union).  Not only is
it great money for that age, it is fun, athletic, and you learn the actual
rules which improves ones own game.       

--DJD
From: root@skorpion.lt.su (Almantas Lauzadis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Moldova Ch. End of Half
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 10:24:49 +0200
Distribution: world
Organization: SKORPIONAS Ltd, Panevezys, Lithuania
Reply-To: root@skorpion.lt.su

Moldova Ch.  End of Half

      1 Simbrul Kishinew           15 11  3  1  38- 11   27  25
      2 Budzhak Komrat             15  9  4  2  25- 13   12  22
      3 Moldova Boroseny           15  9  4  2  20-  9   11  22
      4 Tiligul Tiraspol           15  9  3  3  31- 14   17  21
      5 Konstruktorul-AGRO Kish.   15  8  3  4  27- 15   12  19
      6 KSS-Amakom Kishinew        15  7  4  4  22- 14    8  18
      7 Speranza Nisporeny         15  6  6  3  16-  9    7  18
      8 Nistru Ataki               15  5  6  4  22- 25   -3  16
      9 Kodru Kalaras              15  6  2  7  18- 27   -9  14
     10 Tigina Bendery             15  4  5  6  12- 20   -8  13
     10 Olimpia Belzy              15  5  2  8  12- 13   -1  12
     11 Nistru Chobruchi           15  3  4  8  10- 24  -14  10
     13 Universul Chuchuleny       15  3  3  9  12- 23  -11   9
     14 Dinamo-Kodru Kishinew      15  2  4  9  11- 25  -14   8
     15 Kristall Feleshty          15  2  3 10  13- 34  -21   7
     16 Trikon Kagul               15  1  4 10   7- 20  -13   6

Scorer - V.Kosse (Tiligul) - 10

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From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Subject: Bergkamp leaves Ajax (Re: The Great AC Milan!)
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:04:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.125154.4567@wg.estec.nl> chris@wg.estec.esa.nl writes:
>In article <1993Jan08.000651.56112@watson.ibm.com>, yonas@ynsakgn.ibm.com ()
>writes:
>
>> What is Milan upto? The last time I was following Milan was 84-86 seasons.
>> Gullit and Van Basten were great players. Where are this players now?
>
>They're still there. Milan have at least 5 foreign players (Gullit and Van
>Basten, plus Rijkaard, Papin and another Frenchman I think) and can only play
>3 of them. This has meant Gullit not playing until the last couple of matches.
>Van Basten is out for the next month or so after an operation.
>
>Rumours (in yesterday's UK papers) were that Gullit may be going back to Ajax
>at the end of the season as part of a deal that would bring Denis Bergkamp to
>Milan.

It was just announced on the radio that Bergkamp will leave Ajax 
at end of this season.  He expects to announce the team he will 
play for before march. In the radio message it was also said that
he will go to a team in Spain or Italy. This is the first time that
Bergkamp officaly says he will leave Ajax. He has considered staying with
Ajax as an option thus far. However, it is impossible to compete
with  the big Italian and Spanish team who are working with a budget of 
at least 10 / 15 times the budget of Ajax. 

Louis Kossen