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From: jclark@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (J. Michael Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: What did they do to the video? (was Re: ST: VII ... It's Official!)
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:39:58 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <1993Jan12.161249.29675@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen) writes:

      <much rambling deleted>

>>   The third scene, however, changes much of the movie.  The Klingon assassin
>>is shot by Scotty and falls.  Col. Worf, looking at the body, observes that
>>the asssassin's blood is not Klingon blood.  They find that the Klingon is
>>actually Col. West in disguise.  This last scene may destroy the movie for
>>some, since the whole idea behind this conspiracy was that elements of all
>>three races (Feds, Klingons and Romulans) were equally responsible, but this
>>scene gives the impression that the Fed rogues had a much bigger role than
>>the others.
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>I thought this scene was a stupid addition and did nothing for the
>movie.  It seemed really cheap.
>
    Yeah, all I could think about was Scooby Doo when they always unmask
the vilian at the end (a la the Scooby Doo ending of "Wayne's World)
From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "My two cents" on DS9 women
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:35:20 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1993Jan7.152557.7139@gw.wmich.edu>, x91anderso33@gw.wmich.edu writes:
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|> Whoever cast Nana Visitor in the role of that Bajoran chick deserves a huge
|> round of applause. When she first turned around to talk to Sisko, me and all my
|> friends watching hung our mouths open and started drooling. Finally on Star
|> Trek there was a gorgeous woman with a SLKIGHT attitude! She's already my
|> favorite character, and another friend of mine who watched my tape of the show
|> said he's in love. And that chick who plays Dax (the chick with the slug in her
|> stomach) is about the cutest thing ever to appear in a Starfleet uniform! 
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|> I imagine between the two of them, every guy in the station (especially Quark!)
|> will be drooling and chasing after those two! 

 Gee, I dunno about Dax.  Sure she's good lookin' but knowing that that 
 "worm" is down there would kind of always remind me of the bedroom 
 scene from BASKET CASE II - a definite mood killer!

 Travis
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From: mrjg8679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R James)
Subject: Re: Thoughts on Emissary *** SPOILERS ***
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:30:24 GMT

prp@neb (Paul Peterson) writes:

>***WARNING***
>This post contains spoilers for Emissary, the 2-hour premiere of DS9.
>If you haven't seen it yet, be warned.
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>A few thoughts and observations about the episode:
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>1)  There is no polite way to say this.  The music SUCKS!  I remember
>when Encounter at Farpoint was first shown, I walked around for 
>several days with the theme music running through my head, thinking
>good thoughts every time I recalled it.  Five minutes after watching
>Emissary, I couldn't hum 4 bars of the theme if you paid me a
>thousand dollars.  It's just plain forgettable.
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Isn't the TNG theme derived mostly from the STTMP theme??
Great music tho'

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>8)  Regarding Sisko's interrogation by the creators of the worm
>hole, if these beings have no distinction between past, present
>and future, they already know what's going to happen.  Why do they
>have to question Sisko to find out what they already know?  I did
>love the way it was handled, however, with the aliens communicating
>through the people in his memories.
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I liked this as well. I thought it was very Slaughter House Five-ish
and a good job was done in a variation on that idea.

>  Paul R. Peterson    |    which causes user input to be transformed into
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From: rolandb@phx.mcd.mot.com (roland blackwell)
Subject: DS9 Station
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Tempe, Az.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:08:18 GMT

Who built the space station in DS9? If the Federation built it, why were
the Cardassians running it? If the Cardassians Built it, why would they
abbandon it?  If the Bjorn(sp) built it, perhaps they didn't need Cardassian
help in the first place.  I'm not trying to be smart, I'm just confused.

On another point, I wonder if the love of Star Trek is hereditary?  My
father only like three TV shows, Star Trek being his favorite, All in
the Family and Get Smart.  I'v been a Star Trek fan since the begining.
My son is also a Star Trek fan and he doesn't live with me.  Mybe good
taste just runs in my family.  Are there any other Three generation 
Star Trek fans out there?
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Subject: Re: Old Yellow Eyes Is Back
Keywords: data brent spiner stargazer 
From: peters@netlink.cts.com (Dixie Peterson)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 10:44:01 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

I bought Ol' Yellow Eyes is Back at my neighborhood Tower Records.  They 
can order it for you from Bay City Records.  Brent'
s album is also available at conventions.  Or, you can ask the man 
himself how you can get a copy by writing him in care of Paramount.

Dixie

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From: muellerm@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Marc Mueller)
Subject: Re: after finally seeing ds9
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:10:47 GMT

In article <rawdon.726774096@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
>
>What makes you think O'Brien is not commissioned?  I thought it had been
>established that he was an ensign or a lieutenant or something.
>


The rank of chief has always been that of a noncommissioned officer.
Traditionally it is a senior enlisted rank in which an enlisted person
advances to a level where a crewman starts to take on some of the
responsibilities designated for an officer. A chief is considered
to have advanced to a level above that of normal enlisted and
wears a uniform that resembles that of an officer.

A chief can be commissioned and advance to either warrant officer
(lots of respect) or an ensign (no respect). Many chiefs choose
to go warrant because ensigns tend to be treated like they don't
know anything. The advantage of going ensign is that warrant officers
are not allowed to command ships.

/R 
Marc Mueller, LT, USNR.
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Repeat of Relics was edited
Date: 4 Jan 93 07:45:26 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout


In case you didn't notice, the recent airing of Relics was edited, in order
to add another 30 second DS9 promo.  Because I failed to start a tape soon
enough (I didn't need Relics, but remembered the possibility of another promo),
I don't know if anything was edited from the teaser.

But, here is what I do know about, determined by running the original version
that I have on 3/4" Umatic (with SMPTE-LTC) and the tape I just made.  I found
16 seconds of the 30 that was used.  All network breaks were two minutes, so
I am guessing that the other 14 seconds was from the teaser.  I will tape it
again Friday night and double-check what was missing.

In any event, here is what I found:

11:33.03 -> 11:36.16		3.13		Act I
	Sick bay - Scotty gets down to chase Georgi

19:53.04 -> 19:54.22		1.18		Act III
	Faded in later at the opening

30:31.15 -> 30:39.12		7.27		Act IV
	Scotty complaining about ship being old.  Obsolete speech cut.
				0.06
	Ended act sooner.

43:18.27 -> 43:24.28		6.01		Act V
	Obtaining shuttle - part of response
			       ~2.00
	Faded ending sooner.

This adds up to 16.04.  The numbers are min:sec.frames.  Now to find the other
14 seconds.  The referenced times are based upon my edited original and is the
time into the episode.
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From: billma@utoday.com (Bill Mallon)
Subject: Re: GARTH BROOKS 24 HOURS A DAY!
Reply-To: billma@utoday.com (Bill Mallon)
Organization: CMP Publications, Inc.
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 00:43:20 GMT
Keywords: cows, pigs, boots, mules, mud, beer, trucks

In article <1icb7tINN6j8@mirror.digex.com>, geffy@access.digex.com (Geff King) 
writes:
> From: geffy@access.digex.com (Geff King)
> Newsgroups: rec.music.country.western,misc.test,misc.jobs.offered,rec.pets,
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> Subject: Re: GARTH BROOKS 24 HOURS A DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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> In article <1993Jan5.030012.24339@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> 
carasso@Turing.ORG 
> (Roger Carasso) writes:
> >Ken_Ziolkowski@transarc.com writes:
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> >>  I don't know if this is some sort of New Year's
> >>practical joke, but evidently a radio station in
> >>Pittsburgh has switched to an all Garth Brooks
> >>format....[lotsa stuff 'bout cows & trucks deleted]

> | Geff King - .gov Librarian by Day-C&W Bass Player by Night |
> |                (Mail geffy@access.digex.com)               |
> +--- "If you're in tune, you're fired" --Ira Louvin, 1956 ---+
> 
This conversation's taking place in the wrong century, guys....

"I am endeavoring, ma'am, to construct a mnemonic 
memory circuit, using stone knives and bearskins." --Spock
                             Humble Typesetter
From: msaletni@jade.tufts.edu (Michael J. Saletnik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DID ANYONE PICK THIS UP -CoC II- Poss. Sp.
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:03:30 GMT
	<1993Jan02.011338.16546@admiral.uucp>
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Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

[lots of 'earth' discussion deleted]

And also, Trek has very distinctly kept the word 'earth' out of alien
discussion before.  In 'Deja Q', the people of the planet that's about
to be hit with their own moon refer to "massive landquakes."

							Michael
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From: fedor@dinah.lerc.nasa.gov (Gregory Fedor)
Subject: Re: Space Rangers - Thumbs down....
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:08:19

In article <1993Jan7.115314.19067@husc3.harvard.edu> chan4@husc11.harvard.edu (Derek Chan) writes:

>Sorry for this waste of bandwidth, but I don't post often, and this show just
>really bugged me, not only because it sucked, but also because it gives Sci-Fi
>a bad name.  If this show sucks in the ratings, how can we expect networks to
>come out with better shows?

Kinda makes you glad Paramount decided to put TNG and now DS9 in syndication!

>On a scale from 1 to 10 (10 being the best), this show gets a negative!

For all the TNG bashers out there, even the worst TNG episode (you decide 
which, it doesn't matter) beats "Space Rangers" hands down.  I'll find it
hard to believe (as I already do, but now more so) how *anyone* will be
able to say TNG or DS9 writing sucks.  My standard reply to these people will
be "Did you see Space Rangers?"

I'd say that on the TNG rating scale of 1-10, CBS:SR gets a whopping -100!

Disclaimer:  Before people flame me for talking about something that really
isn't related to Star Trek (we don't do that here do we :), let me apologize
and say that my vented spleen is much better now.  I'll climb back into my
hole now.

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From: sdl@linus.mitre.org (Steven D. Litvintchouk)
Subject: Re: Klingon From ST:VI In CoC (no spoilers
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
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Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:57:39 GMT


In article <1992Dec30.194012.13410@PacBell.COM> wkwilli@srv.PacBell.COM (Warren K. Williams) writes:

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> From: wkwilli@srv.PacBell.COM (Warren K. Williams)
> Keywords: Klingon/Cardassian actor
> Sender: Warren Williams
> Organization: Pacific * Bell
> References: <1992Dec21.143840.21811@linus.mitre.org> <1992Dec23.205601.6828@spectrum.xerox.com> <1992Dec24.124702.9878@uumeme.chi.il.us>
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> Please bear with me but this is my first posting EVER! (I say with some trepidation.)
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> The actor's name is David Warner.
> Other works include TRON (as previously noted), the cardinal in "Ladyhawke",
> and Bob Cratchit (sp) in the TV version of "A Christmas Carol" (the one with George C. Scott). 
> 
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> From: wkwilli@dcg.pacbell.com

He's also played some other interesting villains: Jack the Ripper (in
"Time After Time"), and the Nazi Heydrich (in the TV movie
"Holocaust").  I think he did a good job in both.



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Subject: Re: No Longer Part Of The Cult
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:16:04 GMT
Distribution: world,local
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In <1993Jan4.161031.4199@arizona.edu> CHD@HERMES.ECE.ARIZONA.EDU (Chris De Young) writes:

>And then there are
>going to be scripts that one person loves and the next person hates;
>if they guy who loves it is Rick Berman and the guy who hates it is 
>joe viewer,guess who wins.  ;-)

That depends on whether Rick Berman *knows* that Joe Viewer is going
to like it and is willing to choke down his bile and put it on the air.
From: HR-5@ia.ph.bham.ac.uk (Connor MacLeod (of the Clan MacLeod))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: CoC Hype.
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:53:43 GMT
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Doesn't anyone else agree that CoC is the most hyped (and not
very good)  episode ever concocted ??
From: byork@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Just a note about Star Trek: Deep Space Nine
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:31:37 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <1993Jan05.123737.33069@watson.ibm.com>, annie@whoville.manassas.ibm.com () writes:
> In article <2935214186.0.p00169@psilink.com> p00169@psilink.com (Jeffrey W. Dean) writes:
>>
>>is just me or do you have the urge to say Deep Six Nine?) will be on 
> 
> One of my co-workers consistently calls it Deep Throat Nine :-)
> 
> -- 
> Brenda J. Molina                                     kehleyr@vnet.ibm.com
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> "What must I do to convince you people?"		 "Die."
   I have also heard it called " Deep Throat Nine". It is amazing how everyone
seems to have a working knowledge of that particular porn entry.
             Barry
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From: BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Re: after finally seeing ds9
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:17:46 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1993Jan11.153240.7659@ra.msstate.edu>

>SINCE O'BRIEN IS A NONCOMMISSIONED OFFICER, IS HE EVEN ALLOWED ON
>THE BRIDGE OF THE ENTERPRISE?  THAT MAY EXPLAIN WHY HE WAS RELUCTANT
>TO MAKE AN OFFICIAL APPEARANCE ON THE BRIDGE, AND PEAKED IN ON IT
>SO QUIETLY.

>CAROLYN ADAMS-PRICE
>cea1@ra.msstate


  Carolyn, O'Brien may or may not be a nocommissioned officer. Worf's
  stepfather implied that O'Brien was a noncomm, but other episodes
  strongly suggest O'Brien is an officer. Foremost among these is
  "The Wounded", where O'Brien tells Picard that he was Captain Maxwell's
  Ops officer (a Bridge Position). In "Redemption II", O'Brien replaced
  Worf at the Security station on the Bridge. In "Disaster", O'Brien
  was on the Bridge for a transporter simulation when the disaster
  struck. Notice that O'Brien wears a single "pip" insignia, which
  usually idenitified a Lieutenant.
  "Chief" could mean something like a Chief Petty Officer or Chief
  Master Sergeant in today's military, or it could be a position, like
  "Transporter Chief". 

  -Brian

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From: pmichals@teal.csn.org (Paul Michals)
Subject: Re: Shuttle Craft Warp??
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:40:26 GMT

trekker@leland.Stanford.EDU (Sanjai Dwivedula Rao) writes:
: In article <C0Bn27.AqK@boi.hp.com> mhampsch@boi.hp.com (Mark Hampsch) writes:
: >
: >In Relics Scotty gets a shuttle craft to wander in.  Does it have warp abilities or is it going to take him forever and a year to get anywhere?
: >
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: >         ___        \ | /        ___           "Live long and prosper."
: >        (___)      _|_|_|_      (___)          -Spock
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: >	Some of the E's shuttle have warp engines, some don't.  I'm sure they
: weren't mean enough to give him one without warp capability.
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Lets say they gave him a shuttle that can obtain warp 2. The Galaxy is huge,
Scotty is old, and warp 2 is slooow. Just where did they expect him to go?
Any one know the mean distance between star systems (that contain livable
planets in our part of the spiral arm? It has to be a least 10 LY!!

pmichals@csn.org
From: mikesteg@syclone.detroit.sgi.com (Mike Stegbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: CoC was CHEAP
Date: 4 Jan 93 18:11:40 GMT
Reply-To: mikesteg@syclone.detroit.sgi.com (Mike Stegbauer)
Organization: sgi

In article <ewright.726169069@convex.convex.com>, ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
|> In <1993Jan2.140226.1@pearl.tufts.edu> rsmith@pearl.tufts.edu writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> >Well, Jellico ordered **500** mines, but there were only about ten cylinders
|> >in the shuttle (I didn't count, so that's "ten plus or minus five" :-) ).
|> 
|> Perhaps the Shuttle made several trips or the Enterprise transported
|> additional mines over to the Shuttle.
|> 
|> Or the props department has trouble with arithmetic. :-)

Perhaps the tubes were just anti-matter-mine-holders. The actual mines would be
the size and shape of hockey pucks.  This would explain how they could stick to the ships.

It would also be easier to explain how they got them out of the shuttle without opening
the door :)
From: demillo@juliet.ll.mit.edu ( Robert DeMillo )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Personal difficulties with Odo (was Re: Odo in DS9 )
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:11:39 GMT
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Lab: Fine Food and Coffee

In article <1993Jan7.004833.5623@news.acns.nwu.edu> markb@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Mark Brodsky) 

> I agree that there should be some limitations on Odo's abilities. Perhaps
> they'll go over them in some future episode.
> Overall, I really liked his character (despite the fact I kept
> expecting Benson to show up :)) It is a nice change to have a security
> officer who doesn't go down on the first punch (Like a certain Klingon we
> all know).


There's a couple of things that bother me about Odo...I just wanna get this
out in the open to see if you can agree....

He seems too convient. It's almost as if the producers are just throwing him into
the series because (with morphing technology) they *can.* It looks cool,
they needed another "resident alien," so they through him in.

I have a hard enough time with faster-than-light travel, transporters, and 
medical cures for everything except deseases which are crucial to the plot point...
but I don't know if I can ever suspend my disbelief far enough to cover
a living organism that can nearly perfectly mimic *anything,* even if the
object is of different mass and volume. The closest analogy to this creature that
we have in our own biosphere is the chamellion (excuse the spelling), and it
can only change color to match its surroundings. What kind of evolutionary
track would Odo have come from...?

The other problem I have with Odo....anyone out there remember "Space: 1999"?

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From: d_ellis@ricks.enet.dec.com (David Ellis  08-Jan-1993 0848)
Subject: Re: Vulcan Captain??? (Major Mistake!!!)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 05:48:18 PST
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Several posters have commented that the Vulcan captain of the Saratoga
in DS9: "The Emissary" was the same person as the Vulcan who served on 
Wesley's board of inquiry in TNG: "The First Duty".

A look at the records shows otherwise.

From "The First Duty":
	Captain Satelk				Richard Fancy

From "Emissary":
	John Noah Hertzler			Vulcan Captain

Also, the novelization of "Emissary" has the Captain with a different name,
something other than Satelk.

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