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From: amd@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Alan Duncan)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: RE:holes in t2?
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:48:45 GMT
Reply-To: amd@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Alan Duncan)
Distribution: alt
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

To: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie
Subject: Re: T2 is *so* full of holes - Here's another one!
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U
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	You don't actually SEE him putting on the clothes in the opening
sequence,(but if you didn't know he was able to "morph" then that's what you
think,I too suffered from the over-hype before the film,so I knew quite alot
about the film before I saw it  B-(  ) so it looks like he simply sampled  
the clothes from the policeman.(This would explain why he has the same 
face,etc before and after the cop).
	Personally I and everyone else I know concluded this from the film.


				Alan.
From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: re:Groove Tube
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:30:33 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU

The thing that sticks in my memory most (no pun intended) about that movie is:
"Brown 25!"
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Subject: Re: name that movie!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 11 APR 92 12:40:43 EDT

In article <grantham.702948922@milton>, grantham@milton.u.washington.edu (Henry Grantham) writes...

} And don't forget "Planet of Vampires" by Mario Bava which had a simular
} mood to "Alien".  [...]

This is actually the same movie as DEMON PLANET which I had mentioned in
my previous article. PLANET OF VAMPIRES is the original English title,
but as I first saw the film under the title DEMON PLANET, that's the
title that comes to mind when I think about it.

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: djc@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (David Cunningham)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:59:17 GMT
Subject: Re: The Groove Tube
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies



Hello 

About 2 or 3 months I saw The groove tube released on video.  I saw a copy
in the low price bin in a local Wherehouse records.  I picked it up for   
$10.00. So it is out there , just need to search around.

dave Cunningham
Hewlett- Packard
Cupertino California.
From: redin@lysator.liu.se (Magnus Redin)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Akira: Do anybody have scenes from the film available for ftp?
Summary: Breathtaking
Date: 12 Apr 92 05:50:23 GMT
Organization: Lysator Computer Club, Linkoping University, Sweden

Subject says it all.


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From: dk2z+@andrew.cmu.edu (Donald Louis Kardos)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Movies so SHOCKING YOU WILL....
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:31:42 GMT
	<ku3pvuINNbcg@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>
Organization: Senior, Mathematics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Director John Waters' movies will SHOCK people who think they are UNSHOCKABLE!
YOU'RE WHOLE OUTLOOK ON LIFE COULD CHANGE!!!

Watch them preferrably in this order:
Polyester
Female Trouble
Desparate Living
Pink Flamingos

These movies will leave you exhausted with fascination at how shocking
people can be. Not mere sex and violence, those subjects are not
creatively tasteless, these movies celebrate "good bad taste" Read John
Waters' autobiography "Shock Value: A Tasteful Book About Bad Taste" to
learn more. You can find these movies in the CULT or BAD CINEMA section
of your local video store, or MAYBE in the comedy section.  Also check
out the movie HEATHERS, starring Winona Ryder and Christian Slater.

Don K, Carnegie Mellon, PA
From: dcrane@arachnid.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Any "Liquid Sky" fans out there
Followup-To: Me
Date: 14 Apr 1992 19:47:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: arachnid.berkeley.edu
Summary: deja vu

In article <1992Apr12.214737.9916@eng.ufl.edu> emf@hopi.ugrad.ee.ufl.edu (Ed Filangeri) writes:
>I recently saw a very interesting film entitled "Liquid Sky".  If anyone has seen this movie, please post your thoughts concerning it.

I saw this film when it came out...the director, as I recall, was a Soviet
making his first American film.  The one about the sex hormone huffing aliens
in a frisbee who didn't condone heroin, and used a crystalline spike to off
(and I guess extract the chemical they wanted) their victims, with the woman
caught in between...very interesting, but I haven't seen it in about 6 years.
I especially liked the actress who played the female lead and the male
antagonist.  Are you saying this in on tape?  Or did you catch it on Cinemax?
Or what?

david
From: JRK123@psuvm.psu.edu (James Klingler)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Deathstalker IV
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:37:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92106.093708JRK123
Organization: Penn State University

Greetings !!!

   OK ... I'll admit it. I'm a fan of the Deathstalker movies (except
for # 3 which was utter trash). I heard from several people that there
is now a Deathstalker IV out on videotape !!!
   My question : Where can you find this movie ???!!!??? I checked at
my local Blockbuster Video and the manager there didn't even know it was
released yet. He started checking around for it and his distributer can't
seem to find it either!!! Any help appeciated !!!
   My second question : Who is playing the lead role in this film?? I heard
that it was one of the guys from the first two films which means it should
be either a decent fantasy film or a great comic look at a fantasy film!!
   Thanx for the info in advance !!!

Jim Klingler (jrk123@psuvm.psu.edu)
   'Deathstalker ?? Is that your first name or your last ??? '
     -- quote from Deathstalker II
From: amd@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Alan Duncan)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: T2 T-ricky questions!
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:01:38 GMT
Reply-To: amd@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Alan Duncan)
Distribution: alt
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh


Article: 9017 of alt.cult-movies
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: T2 - T-ricky questions!
Date: 3 Apr 92 21:13:02 GMT
Reply-To: shinosjr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John R Shinoskie)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology

re: the article about the frozen pieces of the T1000,
	
	Would you pick up pieces of metal that had just been emersed
in liqiud nitrogen? I think not...
From: mf2w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marc Kevin Fischer)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re:Worst Martial Arts
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:11:23 GMT
Organization: Junior, Art, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I have to plug the incredible "Black Belt Jones" starring the amazing
Jim Kelly (see Enter The Dragon for a more known example of the afro in
action) plus Scattman Cruthers (best known for his role as the caretaker
in the Shining) and I think even the guy who plays Isaac from the Love
Boat (so I've been told by friends. I never watched the Love Boat) is in
this as a bar owner on the wrong side of the law. The film has terrible
acting, fast women, great action including a fight scene in a soap suds
filled car wash and lots of the usual 70's cheesey qualities. It files
comfortably under Black Exploitation as well.
From: ted4646@zeus.tamu.edu (kid eternity)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: monty python a movie?  i hardly think so.
Keywords: movie, television, aka, shitheads
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:31:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Monty Python is not a cult movie.  Monty Python is not even a movie.  _Monty
Python and the Holy Grail_ is.  _Monty Python's Meaning of Life_ is.  _The
Life of Brain_ is.  "Monty Python's Flying Circus" is a television show.  This
newsgroup is called alt.cult-movies, not alt.cult-television.  You all have 
your own little newsgroup to waste bandwitdh on, why don't you go back and 
annoy each other over there?

Go ahead, flame me.  See if I care.

-thomas


Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: bjm7@po.CWRU.Edu (Bernard J. Martino)
Subject: Dynaman
Reply-To: bjm7@po.CWRU.Edu (Bernard J. Martino)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 06:01:45 GMT



Was a movie ever made like the TV show?  i mean with the fake 
English dubbing, and not the original Japanese serious lines.
Has anyone else ever seen Dynaman?  If not, get a hold of the 
episodes (I'm not sure how many there are).  They silly english
lines put over the action make it a riot.
-- 
	bjm7@po.cwru.edu				Bernard J Martino
		
		    A man is as old as the woman he feels.
From: REEKES@applelink.apple.com (Jim Reekes)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: T2 - Why didn't Sarah die???
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:35:51 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <grantham.702347962@milton>, grantham@milton.u.washington.edu (Henry Grantham) writes:
> 
> shinosjr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John R Shinoskie) writes:
> >I looked at the credits.  Try it sometime.
> 
> 	You watched the credits and you were unable to tell if
> they used a twin sister for Linda's doppelganger?
> 
> >	Schnozz
> 
> -- 
> "Thousands of people plugged into thousands of miles of copper cable"
>  
> Henry Grantham grantham@milton.u.washington.edu

I watched an interview with Linda, and she mentioned that her real life
twin sister was used in the movie.  Her sister is so identical that it
fooled Arnold when she showed up on the set.  He didn't realize it wasn't
Linda and started horsing around with her (hugging her repeatedly from
behind as Linda described it).

Jim
From: morjens@vipunen.hut.fi (Jens B von Weissenberg)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Monty Python Charity Drive
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:58:22 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland


>    Yes, Nellie has passed into hampster heaven, but the funeral  
>   expenses are quite devastating.  All I ask for is a little money (just 5  
>   shillings from everyone would do) to help defray the costs of pet burial. 
>
>   Thank you for your support.
>
>   Phil aka this is a very sad time, indeed...

I hear you Phil, I hear you! Indeed, a dying hamster is one of life's grater
tragedies, but you musn't give up hope! You may someday recieve a new hamster!
Belive me, I know how you feel, as my 300452 pet cockroaches recently commited
mass suicide. Some say that it was my fault, that I shouldn't have left that
slightly rottened peace of spam in my cupboard, but I just can't exept that.
I was a good master for them! I fed them twinkies every day! I even let them 
watch the A-team on saturdays! What am I going to do? Oh, the pain of it!

I will contribute to your fund, Phil. We can shear each others sorrow.
There, go ahead and cry on my shoulder!

Morjens aka death surrounds us everywhere
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: aka
Keywords: none
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:35:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45565
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr13.160120.850@gacvx2.gac.edu} mitch@nic.gac.edu writes:
}In article <44897@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>  writes:
}%>The Madman aka Well, let's have some fun!
}%Jester aka I`m sorry, but you didn`t ask permission to use aka!!!
}The Madman aka Well, isn't that just too bad!?
Jester aka bloody hell, another imposter
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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: Worst martial arts films ever made
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 02:22:29 GMT
Followup-To: alt.cult-movies

As quoted from <1992Apr3.213804.24348@odin.corp.sgi.com> by archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Benny the Bump):

> In <1992Apr3.175831.2005@nmsu.edu> pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer) writes:
> 
> *I'm going to be participating in a ``Bad Martial Arts Films''
> *night soon, so I'd like to have people's opinions of the worst ever
> *made. 
> 
> You absolutely must get "Shaolin Fox Conspiracy."  

"Shanghai Killers".  The door that gets "thrown" at the hero is a scream.  I
wonder what gauge wire that was.  Looked pretty thick.... :)

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith)
Subject: Monty Python
Organization: MCS/OneTouch, Inc.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 17:26:28 GMT

I will not interrupt this board for a pound.

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From: bugs002@bugs.mty.itesm.mx (Ing. Andrew Stevens)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Please name this movie
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:22:23 GMT

smcneil@metro (Shannon McNeil) writes:


>I'm having trouble remembering a (black & white) film I saw a few
>years ago.

>It was about a nerdy, unpopular guy working as a waiter in a
>trendy cafe, where arty types (painters, poets, sculptors etc.)
>hang out.  He accidentally kills the next-door neighbour's cat,
>and covers it in plaster to hide the "evidence".  Someone sees it
>and (not knowing it's real) thinks it's really artistic. So he goes
>on a killing spree to build up his collection  (becoming really
>popular for a while).

>As you can gather, it was pretty strange.
>Does this ring any bells?



"Bucket of Blood", starring Dick Miller and directed (I'm fairly sure)
by Roger Corman.

Andrew Stevens Hidalgo bugs002@bugs.mty.itesm.mx
From: be126@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Powers)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Peter Sellers in The Party...
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:55:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr7.015502.26126
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


Anyone remember seeing the movie "The Party"? I haven't seen
it on TV for years, and it wasn't released on videotape as
far as I can tell - my friends and I consider it a 'cult'
filmbecause it is hilarious and it may never appear anywhere
again...

Then again, if you DO see it somewhere - don't miss it!

For those of you who have seen it: "Bird - Dee Num Num!!"
From: danec@cns.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dane Chetkovich)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: VOICES IN MY HEAD!!!
Date: 5 Apr 1992 16:49:00 GMT
Reply-To: danec@cns.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dane Chetkovich)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: danec@cns.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu


kwest@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Kenneth C West) writes:

>Let's talk Willie Wonka, kids.

does anyone know all the words to the oompah-loompah song?
how about the "i want the world" song?

dane c.
From: danec@cns.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dane Chetkovich)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: name this movie
Date: 10 Apr 1992 20:20:04 GMT
Reply-To: danec@cns.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dane Chetkovich)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: danec@cns.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <bahn.63@edit.mndly.umn.edu> bahn@edit.mndly.umn.edu (Christopher Bahn) writes:
>There was this flick i saw a while back, it was made in about 1975 or 6. It 
>was about this evil galactic empire that had built an enormous space station 
>that could destroy whole planets, and the leader was this tall guy in a 
>black helmet who had asthma. Alec guinness was in it, and he played this old 
>guy named Ben, or maybe Bob, I can't remember, who knew all about this 
>mystic thing called The Force. There were also some robots in it.

yes, there was a movie with some of the elements you describe.  it also starred 
adam rich from eight is enough; the bob you are thinking of is bob denver who played  a character named gilligan, who all the robots used mind tricks to get him to dress 
up like a woman to trick the japanese soldier (who drove a spaceship that looked 
like a sub) into giving up a key so that they could get out of the trash compactor 
before they were smashed. the guy with asthma was all into health food and stuff like 
that, but his asthma was never going to better because the maid, alice, was a chain 
smoker. it was his asthma that kept him and cindy from winning that seesaw record.
they also had this thing called a tractor bean, that was sorta like a lima bean, only 
bigger. the renegade spaceship driver named hans (pronounced "hons or hahns") fell in 
love with this amish woman who then went on to kill his lover and make it look like
he did it. luckily he was able to stop the nazis before they stole the scripts. 

you should really see it again.

dane c.

ps. the japanese soldier wasn't really a bad guy, he just didn't know the war was 
over.
From: grantham@milton.u.washington.edu (Henry Grantham)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Name of bad SF film.....
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:48:44 GMT
Organization: University of Washington


	You might be talking about "Star Crystal".  Did they keep
sealing off sections of the space ship?  Did the monster start to
read the Bible?  Strange movie.
-- 
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Sexual, Radiant, Ecstatic, Colorful, Creative, Peaceful, Festive, Eutopian,
Hopeful, Pure, Insightful, Original, Inspiring, Alive" 
Henry Grantham grantham@milton.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: lechner@cco.caltech.edu (Thomas Jerome Lechner)
Subject: The Killer
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 11:21:49 GMT

About a week after I saw John Woo's The Killer, I saw a movie
on the international channel that had a plot practically identical to
the Killer, differences were things like the cop and killer were 
brothers, and the love interest did not go blind. Anyone know about it?
I thought it was better, though less flying blood.
From: filfeit@hydrogen.Tymnet.COM (Concert Data Manager)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re:groove tube
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:57:51 GMT
Reply-To: filfeit@hydrogen.Tymnet.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems

The Groove Tube also had Chevy Chase singing Me and My Shadow (very odd).

The movies is out on tape; I have it_somewhere_

--f2
shipwrecked and comatose
From: kr1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kishor K. Rao)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: differences in cards???
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:12:43 GMT
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


This may have been asked before, but I'm not sure if I was around if it
was.  I'm an amateur trying to find the right type of deck to use for
card tricks.  I know that the Bicycle Brand and Hoyle Brand card decks
are very popular.  But are they both equally good for close-up card
tricks?  If anyone out there has had experience with both card decks,
can you please tell me the pros and cons? 

Thanks a lot.


Kish
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: accomplices ethical?
From: USERID@bunny.gte.com (Dawn Kelley)
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:57:24 GMT
Organization: GTEL

>For magicians the rules are even more arbitrary because, of course, in 
one sense every
>magician is a fraud, and the audience expects that.

I have been reading this newsgroup for a couple of months now, but this is 
the first time I've taken the opportunity to respond.

I agree with the quoted sentence, being a magic performer myself.  Through 
the ages, magicians have always tried to hide what they didn't want the 
audience to see.  After all, magic consists of trickery, as well as skill, 
and if the audience is fooled, strictly from an entertainment standpoint, 
what's wrong with that?  We've accomplished what we wanted.

Dawn Kelley
dkelley@gte.com
GTE Labs
Waltham, Mass.
From: paulh@coos.dartmouth.edu (Paul Haban)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Magic Castle & Joe Given
Date: 1 Apr 92 15:09:22 GMT
Distribution: USA
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Last week I had the pleasure of visiting to the Magic Castle in Hollywood...
Wow...such a neat place...could go on and on...all the cool people I saw
there...my jaw dropped for the whole evening...(a bit embarrassing indeed)...

but anyway...
I saw a magician, or should I say a supernaturalist, by the name of Joe Given.
What can I say...this guy blew me away...not only does he do the kind of
act I have been working on putting together...he is one of the best close up 
magicians I have ever seen...(actually I think he takes first in my personal
favorite magician catagory)...so, does anyone have any articles written by
him? any gimicks that he had marketed? (I heard him say he does) or anything
that he has contributed to the magic community other than his wonderous
shows?...

sigh...magician envy can be rough...

oh yeah...out of curiousity...anyone know of any books on thread work, I have
the MAJ Bar Magic Special and that has some stuff in it...and also anyone
have any opinions on elastic thread vs traditional invisible thread...

and in similar vein...anyone know of good material on Geek or Bizzare
magic?  I really wish someone would compile the Invocation and New Invocation
*sigh* ok, so I am a dreamer...did Spell-Binder collection two ever come 
out?

oh well enough for now...

-paul haban
aka Alex R. Kane
The.Incubus@dartmouth.edu
From: lt503_424960@EMUNIX.EMICH.EDU (Void where prohibited by law.)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Again I ask...
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:53:47 GMT

In Article 1335 of alt.magic Alan Scott Olson writes:

>I asked this question before, but saw only vague responses on the
>newsgroup.  You don't have to post an answer - email is fine.
>
>I brought up the point that the one time I was blown away by Copperfield
>was when he vanished the leer jet.  Someone mailed me that it probably was
>done via the "black sheet" method?  This makes no sense since the jet was
>surrounded by a ring of people.
>
>First question:  Do you think the people were "plants"?

I think at least some of them were.  See below for details.

>Next question:   How could he have done this?

Now keep in mind it's been ages since I saw this special so I'm not sure if
the plane was *completely* surrounded or whether there was just a line of
people in front of it.  The explanation I've heard and which seems halfway
credible is that, after the front wall went up, his assistants wheeled the
plane out the back and down the runway.  Don't know how much noise this
would make but since there weren't any mikes except the one David was
talking into this wouldn't necessarily be a problem.  Of course if a lot
of noise was involved, then all the people would have had to be plants.
We'll take it as given that the silhouette of the plane was just a fake.
:-)  Don't know if the same method was used on the railroad car or not.
I've got it on tape but I don't have access to a VCR at present so I've
only watched it once.

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