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From: dash@fylz.wa.com (Mike Dash)
Subject: Anti-war meeting: Monday August 24
Organization: FYL
Distribution: seattle
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 04:27:58 GMT

Dear fellow peace and justice activists,

It is extremely disheartening to see that Bush may be preparing 
to attack Iraq again, or to engage in some other military 
adventure leading up to the elections. What is even more 
disheartening is the absence of public opposition to Bush's 
increasingly militant stance.

We feel that it may be time for the activist community to 
respond. It is not yet clear whether Bush plans to start another 
war or is just bluffing--but we may not be able to afford to wait 
until it becomes clear.

Therefore we invite you to join us for a preliminary discussion 
of how to respond to these new leanings toward war.

Time:	7 - 9 pm

Date:	Monday, August 24

Place:	University Baptist Church (4554 12th NE)

Agenda: 	*	summary of recent events
		*	update on the current situation in Iraq
		*	what immediate steps can we take?
		*	how will we respond if Bush escalates?

In the event of war starting before the August 24 meeting, meet 
on the following day at noon at the Federal Building (2d and 
Madison).

Yours,


Bob Barnes, Rainbow Coalition
Mike Dash, Activist Men's Network
Angela Ford, Church Council of Greater Seattle
Robert May, Peace Campaign
Geov Parrish, Conscience and Military Tax Campaign
Vivien Sharples, Palestine Solidarity Committee

[Organizations listed for identification purposes only.]
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: bruceha@microsoft.com (Bruce Hale)
Subject: bamboo gardens vegetarian restaurant
Date: 14 Aug 92 01:58:31 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation


Bamboo Gardens is a vegetarian chinese restaurant on Roy street
in Seattle (near the Seattle Center). Everything on the menu is
vegan (contains no meat, eggs or dairy products). The menu is
extensive, and includes "meat" dishes; all the meat is simulated
with tofu, gluten and other ingredients.

In my opinion, the food is excellent. I have been a vegetarian
for 15 years, and this is the first restaurant I've ever eaten in
where I can order anything on the menu, without worrying about
"hidden" ingredients like chicken broth or lard. The restaurant
is very clean, and usually quiet when we go (early for dinner,
around 4 or 5 pm). The staff is attentive, and has suggested
dishes that are not on the menu when we were indecisive but could
describe what we wanted. Their prices are reasonable, ($5.95 to
$9.95 for an entree, dinner for the two of us usually comes to
around $23 with a tip). There is free parking.

Unfortunately, it's not as busy as the owners might like. Twice
while we've been there, people have come in and left when told
that everything on the menu was vegetarian. Once the customers
were almost abusive; apparently the restaurant switched to their
all-vegetarian menu a year ago, and the last time these people
ate there was before the change. They were *not* happy.

If you're a vegetarian, and you'd like to see this kind of place
prosper in Seattle, please try it. If you can pick up a PCC
newsletter (or you're a member and get it in the mail) there's
usually a 10% off coupon inside.

If you're not a vegetarian, please try it anyway! I'd hate to see
this place disappear.
Newsgroups: uw.general,seattle.general
From: tertium@milton.u.washington.edu (l boyd)
Subject: *Sweet & Gentle* Grandma Cat needs home
Reply-To: tertium@u.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:31:36 GMT


One of my neighbors died last week, and left behind her beloved grandma
cat: Scatty.

She is a sweet kitty.  She is about 14 years old with no significant health
problems.  She's *very* lonely and wants lots of attention.  She would make
a great companion for someone.

Her coat is a dappled grey, and she's got some torti-like markings on her 
extremities.  Bright blue eyes and she's part siamese so she talks a lot!

Please call Lauren@ 632-3353 for more information.


******************************************************************************
Lauren Boyd					Department of Otolaryngology
Systems Analyst/Programmer			University of Washington, RL-30
*Go Huskies*					Seattle, Washington  98195
******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: What happened to all the Yellow Jackets?
Keywords: Insects, Wasps, Bees, Sting, Ouch
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: seattle
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 03:17:46 GMT

In <908@nazgul.UUCP> bright@nazgul.UUCP (Walter Bright) writes:

>In article <cummings.714160508@milton> cummings@milton.u.washington.edu (Michael Cummings) writes:
>/	I have hardly seen any this year, and I'm one of those who gets
>/excited and screams and dances when they're around.  I've seen nothing
>/about bees or wasps on the news or in the papers.  What's going on?  Am I
>/unique in having a wasp-free summer?

>If you want, I'd be happy to have you drop by my house and take some of the
>wasps endlessly droning around my patio.


Personally, I'd just like to watch him dance. :>

   
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: neal@atmos.washington.edu (Neal Johnson)
Subject: Re: How do you get fast police action?
Organization: Dept. of Atmospheric Sciences, University of Washington
	<1992Aug17.231352.28822@u.washington.edu> <2932@voodoo.UUCP>
	<larryd.714352925@milton>
Distribution: seattle
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:15:40 GMT

In article <larryd.714352925@milton> 
larryd@milton.u.washington.edu (Larry Desoto) writes:

>They won't come any faster even if there is potential for bodily harm...or
>at least they didn't when I called them about someone screaming for help
>outside in the parking lot at 5 AM.  Their response time was 15 minutes.

I believe (am certain) you are mistaken.  
Their response time was 15 minutes for this call what would have been 
for a car prowl call?  Much, much greater?  Of course.

I heard an officer (sergeant, I believe) being interviewed on the
radio about lack of response to a shooting at one of these teen clubs.
He had obviously reviewed the logs of the night and said that all
available officers were already entangled in life threatening calls at
other locations.  Harsh fact.
--
Neal C. Johnson		INTERNET: neal@atmos.washington.edu
                 	UUCP:	  uw-beaver!atmos.washington.edu!neal
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From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Female wanted
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:54:35 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

In article <1992Aug20.215000.20919@u.washington.edu> mimir@milton.u.washington.edu (Al Billings) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.173943.2640@beaver.cs.washington.edu> wille@june.cs.washington.edu (Robert Wille) writes:
>>
>>I believe a person has every right to be choosey about whom they live with.
>>Calling this gender discrimination is ridiculous.  If it is discrimination,
>>then we're probably all very guilty of it.  I happen to discriminate against
>>homosexuals and child molestors when I choose a baby-sitter.
>
> Yeah, those two are one and the same, right?! Gotta keep them fags away
>from the kids...
>
>You make me sick.
>
>Al Billings
>Straight but not afraid of Gays

Thank you, Al.  I was thinking exactly the same thing!
Jann E VanOver
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Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: skele@tc.fluke.COM (Martins Skele)
Subject: Re: Guns and Suicide, Medical Examiner's Rprt
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: seattle
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:41:17 GMT

moore@tc.fluke.COM (Matt Moore) writes:

> First, the JAMA has a history of publishing low quality "research" that
>supports the political objective of banning civilian gun ownership.  That
>makes me suspicious of this latest article. Only suspicious - they might
>be right this time despite having been wrong many times before.

> Second, let us assume that the article is correct: gun owners are more
>likely to commit suicide. This does not necessarily mean that gun
>ownership causes suicide - the two could both be effects of a third,
>causative factor. Gary Kleck's book contains a whole chapter on guns and
...
>lucky to live in a country where I can make my own decision about owning
>guns, according to my own analysis, rather than having some far-away
>government make it for me, "for my own good".

>						Matt Moore
>						my opinions are just that



Perhaps someone who understands Social Science Research should look up the study
and tell us what it really did say. The Seattle Times is pretty good on Science for
newspaper, but they are still selling papers and they still have an editorial bias.

						Martins Skele
Newsgroups: seattle.general,misc.consumers
From: dsp@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Camera repair recommendation
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix.  (206) 328-4944 (all lines telebit-equipped)
Distribution: seattle
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:06:04 GMT

 If you send it to a camera store they'll most likely just pass it along
to a repair shop. 

 I'd stay away from PhotoTronics, I've nothing but trouble with them and
when it got to the point of them not understanding why a 52mm mail thread
didn't seat correctly into a 52mm female thread, I gave up on them.

 Now days I use Assoc. Camera Repair in Portaland, OR, on Sandy Blvd. I
think. Sorry I don't have the number right handy with me but the guys
down there know what they're and they'll treat you right as well.  (ie
bent spring on a Hassleblad viewfinder, Mr. Osbourne tweeked the spring
and sent it back to me and only charged me for the shipping)

   Don

Don Smith Photography
dsp@polair.online.com   (btw, make that: 52mm male thread :)

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From: zander@sumax.seattleu.edu (Carol Zander)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
Subject: folk music -- Pete Morton house concert, Seattle
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:20:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.4897
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA


The Seattle Folklore Society welcomes Pete Morton, one of the leading
performers on the contemporary British folk/roots music scene in a special
house concert on Tuesday, September 1st, 8pm at 1428 36th Avenue in Seattle.
Tickets are $9 (with a discount for SFS members).  Call 789-3764 for
reservations and/or directions to the house.

Pete Morton displays energy in performing his own songs and creates fresh
interpretations of the many traditional songs he brings to life.  Pete
played with a number of punk bands before going solo.  Pete was voted 
"Most Promising New Artist" in a 1987 Readers' poll in the British folk
magazine FOLK ROOTS.

A house concert is such a wonderful intimate setting for a concert.  If
you can, bring a dessert to share.  Also, I think this concert will be
taped to be made into a live recording.
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From: saddler@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Ray Saddler [BCS] Unix Warlord)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
Subject: Roommate Wanted (Posted for a friend)
Keywords: roommate, wanted, non-smoker, quiet, no pets, E Greenlake/Seattle
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:11:24 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle


                  [Posting for a friend without Usenet access]

Looking for a a Quiet, Non-smoking person with no pets to share a house in
the East Greenlake Area.  Call Dennis @ 528-0774 between 9:00 am and Noon.

Tell him you heard it on Usenet.

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Newsgroups: uw.general,seattle.general,uw.announce,rec.music.indian.classical
From: wiml@milton.u.washington.edu (William Lewis)
Subject: Re: Female wanted                                     
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:57:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.212532.9187@ninja.zso.dec.com> chen@fungus.zso.dec.com (Chao Chen) writes:
>Now hold on here....  Don't jump to conclusions so fast.  How do you know 
>that if this original poster isn't a female and wanted another female to 
>share this two bedroom apartment with? Would you call that gender 
>discrimination?  

  Yes, that's still discrimination. In this case it seems to be legal
discrimination, though.

>                I can understand where a female might be a bit 
>uncomfortable sharing an apartment with a stranger of the opposit 
>sex (or vice-versa).  I don't think discrimination was the intent here.

  I can understand how a bigot might feel uncomfortable sharing
an apartment with a black, or a Jew, or a homosexual. (Think of
what it would do to his reputation!) Or vice-versa, for that matter ---
is it legal to only allow unbigoted tenants? (Probably not.)

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From: aspasia@usability.Eng.Sun.COM (Lisa Louise Davis)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Traveling to San Jose soon?
Date: 17 Aug 1992 23:34:43 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: usability
Keywords: travel, airline tickets

For sale:

One-way ticket from Seattle to San Jose.  Male or female traveler.
Must be used by September 13.  $100 obo.

Contact Lisa @ 415-336-6741 (days)
               415-369-3974 (evenings)
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From: orrman@carson.u.washington.edu (Michael Orr)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,pnw.general
Subject: Re: More Public Unix sysop bickering
Date: 23 Aug 92 04:10:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug23.041001.23068
Distribution: pnw
Organization: University of Washington

jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000) writes:

>You boys can easily use email or the telephone or some back alley to settle
>your differences.  Keep it off the net, please.

>Cheers,

>Jeff [miss manners] Parke

Hey!  This bickering is fun to read (local BBS gossip :)
-- 

 -Mike Orr   (orrman@u.washington.edu)
Newsgroups: uw.general,seattle.general,uw.announce,rec.music.indian.classical
From: machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman)
Subject: Re: Female wanted 
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: seattle
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:54:34 GMT

xylorg@milton.u.washington.edu (XyLoRg) writes:

>>>A female graduate student or a post-doctoral fellow, or a visiting
>>>scholar is wanted to a spacious two-bedroom apartment in Ballard. 
>>
>>Sorry, but gender discrimination in housing is illegal in the 
>>city of Seattle.
>
>Actually, it looks to me like the ad asks for a female grad, 
>or a post-doc male
>(fellow).  IMHO I took the ad to ask for mature persons, and not as a gender
>discrimination.

"fellow" is the term used to describe the position.  maybe it's sexist.
the biggest clue that i got that a tenant of a particular gender was
desired is the subject heading.


-- 
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 c-OO                                                                      
    \                     "Big Science.  Hallelujah"
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Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: dcb@kopachuk.uucp (David Breneman)
Subject: Re: Stereo Lithography Query
Organization: Tacoma Screw Products, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:37:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.205654.5486@u.washington.edu> flanagan@grover (Jim Flanagan) writes:
>  I'm reasonably confident that thre aren't any stereo lithography
>  service bureaus, but does anyone know of or have a stereo lithography
>  device in the greater Seattle area that can be made available for 
>  interesting sculpture? Boring sculpture. I'm not unwilling to pay
>  a modest fee for the use of such a machine.
>
Are you referring to anaglyphic lithography of the type used for
topographical maps, or some different kind?  I've been hoping I could
come across some one who could superimpose and print halftoned photos
anaglyphically, but I have to admit I haven't been looking in earnest.
You might call Reel 3-D Enterprises in Culver City California.  They
sell lots of supplies for stereo photography as well as books and
things dealing with stereography.  They might know someone who does
this type of printing.  Their number is 213 837-2368.

-- 
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From: sue@amc.com (Sue McCord)
Newsgroups: seattle.general,rec.autos
Subject: 80 Rabbit Convertable, For Sale
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:22:54 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: Applied Microsystems, Redmond, WA

I am posting this for a friend, please call the
number listed below:


1 9 8 0   V W   R A B B I T   C O N V E R T A B L E

      o   rebuilt engine
      o   new clutch
      o   new top
      o   pull-out Pioneer stereo
      o   tinted windows
      o   alarm

      Excellent Condition

      $3500 OBO

      Scott  324-1963
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: nealf@mdd.comm.mot.com (Neal Friedman)
Subject: Re: bamboo gardens vegetarian restaurant
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:46:44 GMT

Well, I like the Bamboo Garden.  Mind you, it helps to order the right dishes. 

And yes, it is now kosher too.
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: pmfisher@milton.u.washington.edu (Patrick Fisher)
Subject: Re: How do you get fast police action?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:13:52 GMT

	I would have said I was seeing the burglary taking place.
That would get their attention.  I might have also embellished
the story to say that the thiefs were taking more than they 
actually were.  Maybe that last part is a wrong thing to do,
but it would get their attention more.

	Pat-
From: wille@june.cs.washington.edu (Robert Wille)
Subject: Re: Female wanted                                     
Organization: University of Washington Computer Science
Distribution: seattle
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 17:39:43 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.005744.20465@u.washington.edu>, wiml@milton.u.washington.edu (William Lewis) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug19.212532.9187@ninja.zso.dec.com> chen@fungus.zso.dec.com (Chao Chen) writes:
|> >Now hold on here....  Don't jump to conclusions so fast.  How do you know 
|> >that if this original poster isn't a female and wanted another female to 
|> >share this two bedroom apartment with? Would you call that gender 
|> >discrimination?  
|> 
|>   Yes, that's still discrimination. In this case it seems to be legal
|> discrimination, though.
|> 
|> >                I can understand where a female might be a bit 
|> >uncomfortable sharing an apartment with a stranger of the opposit 
|> >sex (or vice-versa).  I don't think discrimination was the intent here.

I believe a person has every right to be choosey about whom they live with.
Calling this gender discrimination is ridiculous.  If it is discrimination,
then we're probably all very guilty of it.  I happen to discriminate against
homosexuals and child molestors when I choose a baby-sitter.

-- 
Robert

There is evidence that the brain is like a computer.  If that's true, 
then there really aren't any stupid people.  Just people running DOS.
From: rwojcik@snake.tc-suns (Richard Wojcik,snake)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Re: Guns and Suicide, Medical Examiner's Rprt
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:09:18 GMT
Reply-To: rwojcik@snake.tc-suns
Organization: Sun Microsystems

Net folks seem to have done a good job of laying to rest the ridiculous
implication that gun possession might somehow be a conducive factor in
suicide.  What the study really proves is that guns are very effective
at killing someone who is threatening your life.  ;-)

-----
Disclaimer:  Opinions expressed above are not those of my employer.

    Rick Wojcik   (rwojcik@atc.boeing.com)   Seattle, WA
Newsgroups: seattle.general
From: dbj@cs.washington.edu (Dave Johnson)
Subject: Re: How do you get fast police action?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: seattle
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 18:11:06 GMT

In article <3386@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> robs@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Robert Sipe) writes:
>
>You are quite correct about Seattle's orientation.  Each time an 
>ordinance is suggested that will reduce crime it is branded racists
>against people of color or it violates civil rights.  I am genuinely
>surprized by Mayor Rice's agreement with the loitering ordinance.  In
>any event, to reduce bicyclers from breaking into cars and stealing
>VCR's and TV's one either needs to eliminate the temptation or the
>perpatrator.  If the city allows minors (18 years or younger) to wonder
>the streets at night some are likely to get into trouble with the 
>law.  A curfew would address that but the ACLU will no doubt challenge it.

Uh-oh, my knee's jerking....

I'll try to avoid getting into a discussion about civil liberties,
prior restraint, etc. (I'm sure somebody else can do it (-: ).
I would like to point out that during the summers that I was 16-18
I worked at a cannery on the swing shift.  We got off work at 11PM.
Amazingly enough, we often liked to go out for something to eat
afterwards, so often didn't get home until after midnight.  Would
we have been breaking curfew?  Should we have been locked up?

Heck, when I was in junior high I had a P-I paper route.  I was
out on the streets in the dark hours, going from house to house....
Maybe they should have issued me a badge to indicate that I had a
right to be on the streets.  "Can I see your papers, please?"
-- 
  Dave Johnson

"You're not too smart, are you?  I like that in a man."
    --Kathleen Turner in Body Heat
From: ray@ole.cdac.com (Ray Berry)
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: Shady Seafirst billing practice
Date: 15 Aug 92 19:37:26 GMT
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Cascade Design Automation


	I doubt I'm the only one who has had the following experience:

	1.  Seafirst credit card bill arrives- due date falls on a Saturday.
    2.  I walk into a Seafirst branch on that Saturday morning and make
        the payment.
    3.  The teller hands me a receipt which is POSTDATED to Monday.
    4.  My next statement arrives with a LATE CHARGE slapped on my account.

    This strikes as a very deceptive practice.  Does anyone have a well-
    qualified opinion about the legality of this practice?  And what agency
    would be the appropriate one with which to file a formal complaint? TIA.
-- 
Ray Berry  kb7ht  ray@ole.UUCP  73407.3152@compuserve.com  /* inquire within */
Newsgroups: seattle.general