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From: sinclair65@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: NEON BEER SIGNS
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:55:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

To all fellow beer lovers,

	If anyone is interested in buying a brand new, genuine
neon beer sign, we have some to sell.  Please let us know what brand you are
interested in (example: Bass, Beck's, Heineken, and all of the American
standards).  We can send them UPS guaranteed to your doorstep anywhere in the
country for $200.00 total.  There is only a limited supply, so get back to us
as soon as you can. 

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: (Was: Re: DWOIL FLUNKING - try this game)
Followup-To: alt.beer, kyle@csli.stanford.edu
Summary: Beer amusements
Keywords: Star Trek
Organization: Rocking Pig Enterprises
Distribution: public, world
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:19:42 GMT

Speaking of drinking games (not that anyone on this newsgroup NEEDS
any encouragement to drink), I have a version of the 'official' rules
of the Star Trek drinking game-- both old and new shows-- I won't post
'em right now, as the one for the old show kinda takes up a lot of
space, but if there's any interest in reading them I'll mail them out
on request.  Anyone who has their own set of 'official' rules, I'd be
interested in reading them... trust me, either game is guaranteed to
get you knackered... Gee, I'd crosspost this to the Star Trek boards,
but I forgot what they're called.

Also, regarding the Definitive Beer Quiz: there was one slogan I
noticed was prominently missing-- anyone care to identify THIS beer
slogan: "Glasnost in a Glass."

-/-/-/-/-/-/
Kyle
'They have a thing called "Liederhosen," which I believe are some sort
 of musical pants.' (Heard on National Public Radio)
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From: damouth@wrc.xerox.com (David E. Damouth)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Cheapest Beer??
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:36:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: spectrum.1992Apr7.183653.3852
Reply-To: damouth@wrc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Webster Research Center


	>>-it comes to cheap beer, thereis only one choice for me: Koch's Golden
	Aniversery (sp?)--

Interesting you should mention that - I was curious how widely it was distributed.  Here, I've only seen it in 12 oz cans, for as low as $6.00 per case.  I agree it's quite drinkable - no character, but no off flavors either.

The interesting part is that the can says that it is made here in Rochester "since 1892" or something like that.  There is no Koch's brewery in the phone book.  And the market was flooded with the stuff here, so the volume seems well beyond what a startup micro could do.  Has Genesee decided to market a discount beer while carefully hiding it's own name? Is this legal?  There is a Koch Container Corporation in Victor, relatively near here, but that seems an unlikely source of beer. 

/Dave
David E. Damouth
Xerox Webster Research Center
damouth@wrc.xerox.com
From: v087n562@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Lewis A Bernstein)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Cheap beer, enough already
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:42:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Has it occured to anyone yet that cheap beer is mostly a matter
of proximity to a brewery???  I know that around here (Buffalo)
some of the cheapest is Koch's Golden anniversary, etc, and have
never heard of lucky lager until a few posts ago.  Genny is pretty
cheap out here, becuase it is brewed in Rochester (60 mi. from here).
Some of the smaller 'large' brewers can sell their stuff cheaply in
the specific area of distribution near the brewery.  I remember reading
that distribution is about 1/3 the cost of mass produced beer. 
As an aside, all of the Molson's, OV, Labatts, etc., is as cheap or
cheaper than Bud, Miller, Coors, and all of that around here.  Then again
Canada is only ten or fifteen miles from here.  Schaefer is virtually
unavailable here and expensive when it is here.  (not that I would 
drink it anyway.)  

Koch's does have a brewery in nearby Dunkirk NY, but I don't know if the 
brewery is named Koch's, after all, you don't look for a Bud brewery, 
you look for an Anhueser-Busch brewery.  

Again on the subject of cheap beer anyone had:

	Bartel's
	Leibotschaner Cream Ale
	National Bohemian 
	Gibbons
	Red, White & Blue

All of those were horrendous (as expected) but the price was tiny when
I was really concerned about 4 yrs ago.  I had some 'No Brand Beer' from
some local supermarket, for about $3.99/case (3-4 yrs ago) in bottles that
said the same name in red and white, and it tasted a lot like apple cider,
with a mild kick....  Blech.  

Well, enough of that for now.......
						Lew
From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Polar Beer?
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:27:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <1992Apr9.212323.9213@cs.odu.edu> curtis@news.cs.odu.edu (vincent curtis) writes:


>I remember seeing in the movie Miami Blues a beer called Polar Bear.  Does
>this beer really exists?  If so, has anyone ever tried it?

>Just wondering.
>-VEC

I first saw Polar Beer (not Bear) when I was in Sanibel, FL.  I think there 
are only two grocery stores of any size on the island (but it's not worth 
paying the $3.00 toll to get back from the mainland if you're going solely 
to buy groceries--the best advice is to get your groceries whenever you're 
on the mainland even if you don't need anything right away.) and they didn't 
have much beer selection.  Polar is from Venezuela, a country well known for 
its cold weather and polar bears!

It's okay, I guess, for a beer that you can see through, but I wouldn't go 
out of my way to find it or pay very much for it.

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: al@nmt.edu (Al Stavely)
Subject: Re: Guinness
Organization: New Mexico Tech, USA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 15:53:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.190323.3474@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umcarman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris D. Carman) writes:
> 
>My question is this:  How does the Canadian Labatt brewed
>version of Guinness compare to the beer brewed in Ireland?
>Are there any other countries that brew their own Guinness
>instead of importing it?
> 

Canadian Guinness isn't much like Irish Guinness.  To me, it tastes very much
like a very dark version of Canadian beer.  Not bad, but nothing like the real
thing.

This is assuming that nothing has changed since fifteen or twenty years ago,
when I lived in Michigan and visited Ontario frequently.  I would bring back
cases of Canadian Guinness, just because it was better than the typical US
beer and a bit of a change.  But Labatt also made a porter that I liked even
better.

As I remember from the video shown at the Guinness plant in Dublin, Guinness
is brewed under license in a number of countries, several of them in Africa.
Not in the US, fortunately, so we can get the real stuff imported.


-- 

	- Allan Stavely, New Mexico Tech, USA
From: 34EZVZ7@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: In search of New Zealand beer
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:42:42 GMT
Organization: Central Michigan University

This is Ryan Williams from CMU- have you tried K-mart?
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dbeacham@willamette.edu (Daniel Beacham)
Subject: Re: Cheapest Beer??
Organization: Willamette University, Salem, OR
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 05:19:33 GMT

	WHAT???!!!  You guys haven't heard of Lucky Lager??

	8.50 a case (11 oz. stubbies) and a cryptogram puzzle in every cap!

				Once upon a time..
					
					D.B.

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: mjk11@po.CWRU.Edu (Mary J. Knowles)
Subject: Re: Cheapest Beer??
Reply-To: mjk11@po.CWRU.Edu (Mary J. Knowles)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:41:05 GMT


In a previous article, danno@css.itd.umich.edu (Daniel T. Pritts) says:

>In article <mah2.702285658@Isis.MsState.Edu> mah2@ra.msstate.edu  
>(Michael Andrew Hodges) writes:
>> Hey, I have heard the best beers and the worst beers but YET have I  
>heard
>> what the best cheapest beers are!!!!
>
>My personal faves are Black Label (24/12oz longnecks for $7.99) and  
>Old Style (lately available: 20/12oz cans for $6.99).  
>
>Mabel...Another Black Label!
>--
>dan pritts
>computer systems consultant
>university of michigan itd consulting and support services
>dan.pritts@umich.edu    (nextmail ok, but note in subject line)
>313/998-6265
>

I'll add my vote for Black Label for cheap everyday drinking.

But how about Mackeson's (sp?) Triple Stout for a beer you can chew on?
-- 
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Shaker Heights, Ohio USA
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Subject: Re: Cheapest Beer??
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 06:15:34 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.183653.3852@spectrum.xerox.com> damouth@wrc.xerox.com (David E. Damouth) writes:


>       >>-it comes to cheap beer, thereis only one choice for me: Koch's Golden
>       Aniversery (sp?)--

>Interesting you should mention that - I was curious how widely it was distributed.  Here, I've only seen it in 12 oz cans, for as low as $6.00 per case.  I agree it's quite drinkable - no character, but no off flavors either.

>The interesting part is that the can says that it is made here in Rochester "since 1892" or something like that.  There is no Koch's brewery in the phone book.  And the market was flooded with the stuff here, so the volume seems well beyond what a startu> micro could do.  Has Genesee decided to market a discount beer while carefully hiding it's own name? Is this legal?  There is a Koch Container Corporation in Victor, relatively near here, but that seems an unlikely source of beer. 

>/Dave
>David E. Damouth
>Xerox Webster Research Center
>damouth@wrc.xerox.com


Hmmm. I recall seeing it a couple years ago in Albany (for, yes, 99 cents/6) 
and I seemed to remember it was from Utica (I assume from F.X.'s), but I 
might have been wrong about that.  It was definitely unremarkable stuff, but 
it was hard to argue with the price!
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 "Help! I've fallen and I                    University of Minnesota
   can't reach my beer!"             Department of Political Science
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                I should be
                Fast asleep
                But my mind won't let me
                Feels like it's going to 
                     EX-PLODE!
                                --Blue Rodeo
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From: pdlemass@unix2.tcd.ie (Something original)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Pubs in Europe!!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 07:52:33 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <BEAR.92Apr7141511@godzilla.harlqn.co.uk> bear@harlqn.co.uk (Andy Edwards) writes:
>What about Murphy's ? Yummy scrummy.

>+--: Andy Edwards :------------+


Murphy's ??? YEAUCH! That's what. It's like drinking diluted Guinness.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Fruit Beer (Was: Re: R.R.)
Followup-To: alt.beer
Summary: A reply to a reply to a reply
Keywords: Fruit, strawberry, cherry, pointed sticks, Kriek
Organization: Rocking Pig Enterprises
Distribution: public, World
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:53:27 GMT

In article <18787@bach.udel.edu>, vmckay@bach.udel.edu (Vicki "The
Goddess of Empathy" McKay) writes:

> By the way, has anyone had any experience with any of these fruit-
> based beers that are available?  I saw some from Denmark that seemed
> to be cherry-based.  Any ideas/comments?  It was awfully expensive
> just to buy on a lark...

Once again to bring up Belgium (is it Tuesday already...?), this sort
of beer is very popular there.  One in particular that I remember
fondly is called Kriek, which is strawberry based.  Sure, I scoffed,
too, but then I had one and it was a beautiful thing.  I had a few
others but Kriek seems to be the sweetest most flavourful.  I didn't
think anything like that was available here-- I would dearly love to
have one of those again.  If the Danish equivalent is anything like
it, it's worth the extra few coins.  Vicki, what was the name of the
Danish brand, and how much did it cost?
If anyone else is familiar with fruit beer, and has some insights into
the secret of their making, I'd be keen to hear.  I think it's
something more than just a dollop of syrup into an otherwise good
beer, isn't it?  The taste is such that it's really bonded to the
beverage, it's totally unlike the beer experience you expect.

-/-/-/-/-/-/
Kyle
'No wonder the Turks "did" the Armenians if this is the way they carry
on...' --Steve Withers (Steve.Withers@actrix.gen.nz) on hasan.b.mutlu
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From: tatum@cs.unc.edu (Thomas Tatum)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Malt Liquor
Date: 14 Apr 92 05:02:13 GMT
Organization: UNC-Chapel Hill Computer Science

In article <binkley.702540496@beagle>, binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley) writes:
> filippi1@husc9.harvard.edu (David Filippi) writes:
> 

> 
> >Is there any worth drinking for any purpose besides getting drunk?
> 
> The major American brewers call their stronger products malt liquor
> by default; e.g., Schlitz, Colt 45, Olde English 800, Mickey's, etc.
> Although I'm sure we'll get some dissenting opinions from the peanut
> gallery, I'll state that none of these are worth drinking for
> any purpose other than getting drunk.

 Malt Liquor's are great!  My roomates write a column for a part of the the Daily Tarheel (the Omnibus) and they are nicknamed , "The Master Cylinder Dudes" after too many parties our sophmore year drinking Schlitz and Colt 45.   I want to post an article or two they have written (in one they even did a taste test of Malt Liquors).  The columns are funny and each are mostly centered on beer.   

Thomas B. Tatum              EMAIL:<tatum@cs.unc.edu>
104A Ashley Forrest Dr.      or
Chapel Hill, nc 27514       <TBTATUM%UNC.bitnet@UNCVM1.OIT.UNC.EDU>
(919)932-9768
"K-MART sucks!" -- Raymond Babbitt
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 13:53:09 CET
From: <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Guinness
 <1992Apr15.213813.2206@e2big.mko.dec.com>

 TWO things on previous posting plus some extra info on Guiness  :-
 1/ The "smoothifier" (didn't know they'd coined a name for it) is a small
container (cylinder, pelet, whatever) of gas in the bas of the can. On openning
the can (as stated, differential preasure) it bursts and so gassifies the beer.
It's better than "normal" canned beer, but still notas good as real draft.
 2/ Other Guiness breweries.
   We used to have TWO Guiness breweries in the UK. I presume that 1 closed due
to falling market share when larger (to use that term for most UK largers is
and insult to continental and Aussie largers) became more poular. The 2 were
Burton on Trent (a MAJOR brewing area as the water -just like Scotland for
whiskey- suits itself to the job) and Park Royal. The latter is in London and
to tell from the tast I think must use tap water. The Dublin Guiness was vastly
superior to Burton on Trent, though that was (particularly draft) still good.
 When I 1st moved to London and tried the Guiness, I nearly gagged. It was
AWFULL (or certainly compared to what I was used to, though it still beat the
local beer). I assumed it was just the Landlord not keeping a good cellar.
However, after having drank the stuff in several more Pubs I became
suspicious. That's when I found-out about Park Royal. The PR stuff is MUCH
worse than B.on.T. and compared to real Dublin (which I didn't encounter for
several more years) hardly deserved the label.
 However, as the world turned, market share dropped, Guiness closed the BURTON
ON TRENT brewery. Thus England only has 1 Guiness brewery now, and that the
inferior 1.

 Here in Holland (and in Belgium) it's (I think) Dublin Guiness, what's more,
category 1 beer is 5%, Guiness was measured by a college freind 20 years back
(I kid you not, as part of his PostGrad project he hitched round the country
in the summer hols, drinking as he went, and took samples of dozens of beers
then put them through a gas cromatogram to get the alcohol level) at 4.6%.
Thus to prevent being labelled sub-standard (i.e. Cat II instead of Cat I) it's
re-fermented to a greater strenght.

 1 LAST POINT. Don't know if they did it this year (or even last) but Guiness
used to do a special New Year brew, the O.G. was 1000 plus year, e.g. in 1989
it was 1089. i.e. it was stronger each succesive year. By 1989 they'd been
doing this at least 3 years.

 P.S. Non-Guiness point.
 Fosters Lager 1st came into the UK about 15-20 years back (my wife used to
work in the "Australia and New Zealand" bank and got it cheap high days and
Holidays) and it was GREEEAAAT. Now I only buy the Large Cans, not the normal
size. WHY???? Simple, The large cans are "Brewed and canned in Australia", the
smaller cans a "now brewed in the UK". IT is NOTTTTTT the same drink at all.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: ych@cs.utah.edu (Yuan Hsieh)
Subject: Re: Utah beer
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:51:02 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: usa

In article <1366@hydra.bucknell.edu> minich@bucknell.edu (matthew minich `93) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.162828.1640@u.washington.edu>, pollard@milton.u.washington.edu (Ken Pollard) writes:
>> In article <1992Apr15.054311.19483@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> afry@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Alan R. Fry) writes:
>
>
>> Perhaps the liquor stores have improved.  Anyone in Utah care to comment?
>> 
>> Ken Pollard, Seattle
>> pollard@u.washington.edu

No, they have not improved.  

>liquer stores.  They only sell imports warm on the shelf.  This is the only 
>place to get beer that is not 3.2, unless it is brewwed locally.  I had 
>quite a few Wasatch beers since they could be found a lot of places.  We 
>went to the brew pub which is in Park City right on main street.  A cozy 
>place to drink beer and the stout knocks you on your butt.  You ca
>
>Matthew Minich        minich@bucknell.edu

I believe all the beer brewwed locally has to be 3.2.  

There are exactly three brew pubs in the state of Utah.

Squatter's in SLC has a good slightly bitter stout, that reminds me of a good
room temperature coffee, not much flavor or body, but a good simple stout.  
They serves overpriced food.  Their amber ale didn't leave much of an 
impression on me.

Wastach Brewery in Park City has good selections, great bbq-spiced pop corns.
They also bottle their brews so you can buy some for the road.

Eddie McStiff's in Moab has great wheat beer and fruit(raspberry?) beer.
Awesome pizza.  IMHO, the best brew pub in Utah.

All the real beer connoisseurs in Utah brew their own beer.

-Y'
From: laeh88@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Holland L.A.E.)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Guinness
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:10:18 GMT
Organization: University of Southampton, England
Originator: laeh88@spenser


In article <65462@apple.Apple.COM>, chmilar@Apple.COM (Michael Chmilar) writes:
> umcarman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris D. Carman) writes:

> 
> >An interesting thing
> >to note is that the beer is in fact brewed by Labatt
> >"under the direct supervision of Arthur Guinness Son &
> >Company (Dublin) Limited).
> > 
> >My question is this:  How does the Canadian Labatt brewed
> >version of Guinness compare to the beer brewed in Ireland?
> >Are there any other countries that brew their own Guinness
> >instead of importing it?
> 

Guinness is brewed in London by Guinness for Draught guinness in kegs, draught guinness in cans (maybe this is not available elsewhere, its very similar in taste and has the same head as keg guiness) and guinness extra in cans.
The guinness brewed in london is really different to that in Dublin, the taste is so much better in Ireland. A couple of years ago a group of us (about 40) went to dublin and tried the guinness whilst we were there. Most of them didnt like guinness in england but almost _everyone_ liked it in dublin!

I have also tried guinness in the _Irish House_ just outside Kaiserslautern in germany. I think it was imported but it was not as good as the guinness i've had in either England or Ireland.

 _Egal_

 
-- 
	Adrian Holland		laeh88@uk.ac.soton
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From: 92dms@vax.cc.williams.edu (Bat Rastard)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Guinness
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:52:00 GMT
Organization: Williams College Center for Computing
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

There was a thread a while ago about a new gadget appearing in Guinness 
containers, which caused the stout to pour out in a richer, foamier fashion.  
What was the official name of this innovation, and what was the name of the 
special award it won?  Thanks.
From: DURRETT@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Beer Food Recipes
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:16:17 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

I found a number of recipes using beer in the Betty Crocker International
Cookbook(Don't laugh, the food is great, even if they do skimp on the
cholesterol on occaision). Recipes include Rabbit Stewed in Stout, and an
Ecuadoran recipe for Pork Stewed in Beer. The rabbit dish is phenomenal,
but I would suggest taking the time to lightly pickle the white onions
yourself, since the cocktail onions in a jar are so expensive. I could
be persuaded to post these if I get enough requests via e-mail....

Roo-Dog Rip
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Roo-Dog Rip is:                  <>SLAC, Stanford, the DOE and the
Derrell Durrett                  <>University of Colorado neither claim
D_DURRETT@COLOPHYS.BITNET        <>responsibility nor accept liability
D_DURRETT%KAOS@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU <>for my opinions. Gee- what a surprise.
From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: R.R.
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:10:39 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <18797@bach.udel.edu> vmckay@bach.udel.edu (Vicki L McKay) writes:

>By the way, has anyone had any experience with any of these fruit-based
>beers that are available?  I saw some from Denmark that seemed to be
>cherry-based.  Any ideas/comments?  It was awfully expensive just to buy
>on a lark...

I've had a few different Cherry Lambics from Belgium.  Yum, and expensive
too.  Samuel Adams makes a Cranberry Lambic in the states, but it's pretty
hard to find, unless maybe you're in the Boston area.  Also, kind of bland
compared to those of Europe.

-- 
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