HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: News/mail reader
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 11:45:54 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> Ok, let's have a counter example.  Supposing files are sorted by creation
> date/time (as would apparently be the case with your technique).  Suppose
> there were no new articles, and one was expired.  The users' join files
> are now out of sync:
> 
>     Before unbatching : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
>     After unbatching  : 1, 2, 3, 4
> 
No, the expired article would be #1, and no resequencing would
take place because 2-5 is contiguous.

> Suppose there was one new article, and one was expired.  No change to the
> users' join files, but it now points one too high:
> 
>     Before unbatching : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
>     After unbatching  : 1, 2, 3, 4, 5
Again, the expired article would be #1, and the new article would
be #6. 2-6 is contiguous, no resequencing is done.

> Too simple, maybe?  I think I'll just avoid re-sequencing my articles.
> How does re-sequencing enhance the general operation of Waffle?

Too simple for use on a full news spool, most definately. It
works fine for the purpose I wrote it for, which is to allow
some network redundancy on two SMALL LOCAL news hierarchies.
Resequencing simply keeps the article names contiguous, something
I like to have. Doesn't 'enhance the general operation' of 
anything. 

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: wales@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Rich Wales)
Subject: Re: "other" interrupts with BNU
Reply-To: wales@CS.UCLA.EDU (Rich Wales)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 08:07:47 GMT

Mike Witt asked how to specify the interrupt "mask" and "vector" values
in the BNUPORT utility.

Otto J. Makela replied:

	The vector is what the CPU interrupt number generated by
	the actual hardware interrupt is -- in the case of IRQ7
	it is 0Fh or 15 in decimal.

Right.  IRQ 0-7 correspond to interrupt vectors 08h - 0Fh, respectively.

	The mask is the bitmask which you give the 8259A interrupt
	controller chip to enable this particular interrupt -- for
	IRQ7 the mask is 01111111b=7Fh or 127 in decimal.

Actually, it appears that the "mask" one specifies in BNUPORT is the
inverse of the above, with a single 1-bit corresponding to the IRQ.
For instance, IRQ7 requires a BNUPORT "mask" value of 80H.

	Are you sure the BNU manual doesn't explain this?

It doesn't appear to.

	By the way, are you aware that IRQ7 is also used by the
	parallel port hardware?

It may be the case that Mike has interrupts disabled on his parallel
port.  As I understand, certain early IBM parallel interfaces didn't
interrupt reliably, and much (maybe even most) printer software there-
fore ignores interrupts altogether in favor of polling.  I've run my
(non-IBM) parallel card with interrupts disabled, and it has worked
fine, even in Windows.

If Mike has not explicitly disabled interrupts on his parallel port,
though, he would probably be better off not configuring one of his
serial ports to use IRQ7.

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From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle and V32bis
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 10:17:58 EST
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

flavio@cflav.sublink.org (Flavio Casetta) writes:

> Anybody experienced troubles with Waffle 1.64 and a V32bis modem ?
> It seems that Waffle can't run as fast as the modem...

I run DOS Waffle on a 4.77 mhz XT clone.  When I moved from 1.64
to 1.65 I noted a dramatic improvement in uucico throughput, and
this is using 8250 uarts and a T1000 locked at 9600.  I recommend
upgrading to 1.65 if you're having uucico problems.

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From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,sbay.waffle
Subject: Re: Fun with OS/2 2.0 (was Fun with MS Windows)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 17:04:41 PST
Distribution: sbay
Organization: The GRAFex Company

zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

> On my system I continuously run UUXQT while UUCICO is receiving files,
> at one point I accidentally ran the wrong UUCICO batch file, the one
> with UUXQT after UUCICO.  When it ran, it had two UUXQT going at the
> same time.  Then all of a sudden it starts
>   Out of synch
>   Out of synch
>   Out of synch
>   ...
> going like crazy on the screen.  CTRL-ESC  (os/2 system)  and close
> the sessions with UUXQT going, and restart UUXQT and all was fine.

I tried closing the DOS Windows sessions.  No such luck.
 
> Another thing that happens is when one UUXQT renames or copies the 
> file to batch1 and batch1 is already there, then it stops and simply
> says...
>   batch1 already exists, do you wish to overwrite existing batch1 (Y/N)?

That didn't happen for me.  It unbatched the same file twice.
 
]...[
 
> I've solved 98% of the problems by having two icons I run.  
> one is UUXQT -crnews and the other is UUXQT -crmail.  I can run these
> simultaneously to process news and mail separately.

I run UUXQT after each poll.  I connect with eight sites and I like to
push thru the stuff as quickly as possible.  I also have a news-->email
customer.

If I were planning to run Windows continuously, then I suppose a separate
window for UUXQT would make sense.  I am forced into it because of a
project I am working on.

steve

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From: zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: X.400 protocol in waffle ?
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 08:48:40 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!zeta
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:

> 
> To all involved in the development of waffle:
> 
> Will waffle be supporting the X.400 adress-protocol ?
> 
1.64 and 1.65 both allow x.400 address to go through, only catch, will the
feed site let it go through?  The feed site has to set something I believe
in order for x.400 addresses to work.

Other than that, I'm not sure.

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Changing up/down-load protocols and Filedoor.
From: system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:52:23 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

I'm looking at replacing the built-in Files section in Waffle with 
Filedoor. However, I also want users to be able to up/down-load 
messages while reading.

How can I allow an ordinary user to change their protocol without 
having the Waffle files system available?

Thanks for you help

Wayne McDougall

I .sig therefore I .am

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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Usenet <-> GEnie Gateway
Date: 22 Nov 92 04:23:59 GMT
Organization: Muth Valley Bell, a Non-Linear Communications Company

david@cssnet.UUCP (J. David Schronce) writes:

> Is there a way to address GEnie users from Usenet?  I've got ways to 
> reach almost anyone - anywhere, but I've never found anything on GEnie.

It is available now.  However due to the high costs to GEnie
customers, it's not widely used.  GEnie customers must sign-up
for access at $10.00 monthly plus a per-outgoing message cost.
Inbound are free (for the most part).

The addressing is: genieuserid@genie.geis.com

In my case:  slic@genie.geis.com will bounce back to you as not
authorized or some such.

--
     Mike, WB6WUI   //   INET:  mikey@slic.cts.com   //   GEnie: SLIC
From: otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "other" interrupts with BNU
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 00:06:53 EET
Organization: Jyvaskyla Electronic Mailbox

mike@arts.com (Mike Witt) writes:

> mike@arts.com (Mike Witt) writes:
> > Is there any way I can tell BNU about these parameters,
> 
> I realized as I read my post, that I didn't really ask what
> I was trying to ask.  I'm TRYING to set the parameters with
> the BNUPORT utility.  I can see how to set the I/O address, but
> I don't understand how the interrupt "mask" and "vector" relate
> to the fact that I want to use interrupt 7.

Ah, I see.  The vector is what the CPU interrupt number generated
by the actual hardware interrupt is -- in the case of IRQ7 it is 0Fh
or 15 in decimal.  The mask is the bitmask which you give the 8259A
interrupt controller chip to enable this particular interrupt -- for
IRQ7 the mask is 01111111b=7Fh or 127 in decimal.  Are you sure the
BNU manual doesn't explain this?

By the way, are you aware that IRQ7 is also used by the parallel
port hardware?

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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Setup Suggs for Telebit T3000 on V1.65, DR-DOS V6.0 & Desqview
Summary: Need input on setting up a T3000 on Waffle
Keywords: Telebit T3000 Modem
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 00:03:57 PST
Reply-To: mikey@slic.cts.com
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: Muth Valley Bell, a Non-Linear Communications Company

Just got a T3000 today.  Have only had 2400 til now.  So I'm abit
behind the times.  Looking for folks who have already invented
the wheel in this arena.

I've added BNU 1.70 into the desqview window and enabled
spoofing.  I've gotten 1031 cps so far.  Just looking for the
Static file parms, BNU command line switches, and any special
/UUCP/DIALERS script changes.  Not so much is it.

Any insight would be appreciated.  This is a intensive upgrade
for one who never played with a REAL modem and FOSSIL drivers.

Thanks all and remember to vote BUSH on Tuesday...

--
     Mike, WB6WUI   //   INET:  mikey@slic.cts.com   //   GEnie: SLIC
From: tonyd@ssc60.sbwk.nj.us (Tony DeBari)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: FOSSIL driver & Windows 3.1
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 20:24:53 -0500
Organization: Lost In Space

In <q90yTB15w165w@tcscs.UUCP> zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:

>taz@momad.UUCP (Sysop) writes:

>> BNU fossil driver.  When I started using Windows, I noticed that 
>> the BBS would not recognize the modem when I had the FOSSIL driver 
>> loaded (The FOSSIL driver was loaded from AUTOEXEC.BAT, so it was
>> started BEFORE windows)
>> 
>> If I unload the fossil driver (from the windows session) and then run
>> the BBS, it works (But of course Fossil Driver is gone, and it may lock
>> the system up since it was unloaded from windows, but originally
>> loaded from DOS)
>> 
>> Any ideas?

>Try putting BNU in from the RUN.BAT file which Windows run... It is then
>started when Windows starts the session with Waffle in it.  Or you could
>try it without BNU at all and let Windows handle all of that.  Or you 
>could switch to another OS (I wont go into that one).

>Honestly, when I ran using Windows, I think I ran BNU with the RUN.BAT
>and had Windows run RUN.BAT to start waffle.

My setup here is similar.  My RUN.BAT loads X00 when it starts and unloads 
it when it ends.  This way, the FOSSIL is always available to Waffle
whether I run it from DOS (for speed) or Windows (for multitasking), and
it's always removed from memory when I change from one environment to the
other.

-- 
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"First things first ... but not necessarily in that order" - The Doctor
From: pspeer@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle and Share.exe question?
Date: 21 Nov 92 09:02:00 EST

In article <5ZVkuB9w165w@remote.halcyon.com>, Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com> writes:
> pspeer@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
> 
>> I have been trying to get waffle, uuxqt specifically, to run with share.exe
>> loaded. I get share violations and can't figure out how to get the two to
>> peacefully co-exist. Does anyone know if this is possible, and if so, how to
>> do it?
> 
> Why must you run share?
> 
Well, I run Packrat and ObjectVision. Packrat needs it and to use the Paradox
engine in Objectvision it must be loaded. If there was a way to load it and
then unload it (without rebooting) while running uuxqt, that would work. If you
know of a way to do that, I could just do things that way.

Pat

Newsgroups: comp.groupware
From: zanetti@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Alessandro Zanetti)
Subject: Re: Should managers delegate authority to Junior Managers
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:42:38 GMT

Fadi A. Rabie <FR5641A@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>Should managers delegate authority to his subordenates,  and if so
>   should they have the power to make decisions.  Should this happen
>   should the manager be part of the group-decision process.


>PLEASE REPLY,  THANK YOU.


I'm happy to read such questions, not just because I have an answer, but now I
know there is someone else that have or had to do with this problems.

So I want to write here what I have to do, hoping that someone can give me some
suggestions.

In the sphere of CSCW we are developing software for the communication between
members of organizations.

This kind of communication is ruled by Petri Nets, and stands on some theories
of the language (Searle).
If you know COORDINATOR you have an idea of this kind of communication.

In real organizations, members have a role, manager, responsible of an area,
...slave... and so on.

I'm trying to formalize concepts such as manager, responsibility, area of
activity, sub-area, commitment, resource, ...

Then I'll have to implement such model in an Object-Oriented Language based on
Common Lisp.

What I ask is:

IS THERE SOMEONE IN THE WORLD DEALING WITH THE PROBLEM I DESCRIBED (HOW TO FIND
A MODEL OF ORGANIZATION) THAT IS SO KIND TO EXCHANGE WORDS AND IDEAS WITH ME???

Thank you in advance, Alessandro

-----
Alessandro Zanetti
Department of Computer Science, Milan University - Italy

e-mail: zanetti@ghost.dsi.unimi.it
Newsgroups: comp.groupware
From: rekers@elc2 (Jan Rekers)
Subject: Re: Seeking information on electronic whiteboards
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics and Computer Science, Leiden University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 09:17:38 GMT


Check out the We-Met system developed at IBM.  This is a pen-based
tool which supports both the communication and information retrieval
needs of small group meetings.  It implements an electronic black (or
white if you wish) board to support design meetings.


@techreport{WeMet,
  author = {Wolf, C.G. and Rhyne, J.R. and Briggs, L.K.},
  title = {Communication and Information Retrieval with a Pen-based Meeting Support Tool},
  institution = {IBM T.J.Watson Research Center},
  address = {P.O.Box 704, Yorktown Heights, NY 10598, USA},
  number = {RC 17842},
  year = 1992
}

Kind regards,						Jan Rekers



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Newsgroups: comp.groupware
From: joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott)
Subject: Re: Should managers delegate authority to Junior Managers
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:31:10 GMT

zanetti@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Alessandro Zanetti) writes:

>Fadi A. Rabie <FR5641A@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>>Should managers delegate authority to his subordenates,  and if so
>>   should they have the power to make decisions.  Should this happen
>>   should the manager be part of the group-decision process.
Authority can be delegated at will; _responsibility_, however, cannot.  If a
manager delegates the authority for certain decisions to a lower level, and
the lower livel screws up, he will _still_ be flamed for the results. 
Although this may seem unfair, it actually makes sense.

>I'm happy to read such questions, not just because I have an answer, but now I
>know there is someone else that have or had to do with this problems.
I haven't personally had the problem, but this topic is covered in some detail
in the Industrial Management program at Georgia Tech (probably most good
business programs; anyway I'm GT Class of '83).

>So I want to write here what I have to do, hoping that someone can give me some
>suggestions.
You might pick up a book on management theory.  No titles come readily to
mind, but checking out a local college bookstore should help.  Be warned,
however, that this will be among the most boring reading you'll ever do; so
much of it is obviously common sense, and so much that may not be seems too
easy to dismiss without serious thought.

>In real organizations, members have a role, manager, responsible of an area,
>...slave... and so on.
Roles and the people who fill them are not necessarily the same.  A person
can have many roles, and one role may be filled by many people.  If you find
some material on organizational structure, check out the matrix style of
organization for some ideas.

>I'm trying to formalize concepts such as manager, responsibility, area of
>activity, sub-area, commitment, resource, ...
Remember that these are just words, although you do speak specifically of
_concepts_.  I always found them a little hard to define without using
themselves in the definition.

>Then I'll have to implement such model in an Object-Oriented Language based on
>Common Lisp.
Now here, I cannot help you.  Sorry.

>What I ask is:

>IS THERE SOMEONE IN THE WORLD DEALING WITH THE PROBLEM I DESCRIBED (HOW TO FIND
>A MODEL OF ORGANIZATION) THAT IS SO KIND TO EXCHANGE WORDS AND IDEAS WITH ME???
If I can contribute something useful, I will be satisfied with having done so.
You be the judge...send email if you like.

-JTT
From: david@ruc.dk (David Stodolsky)
Newsgroups: comp.groupware
Subject: Re: inappropriate articles - Readme needed?
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:03:39 GMT
Organization: Roskilde Universitetscenter, Danmark

rwhitehead@cix.compulink.co.uk (Roger Whitehead) writes:

>> I would like someone else to do this, since I have trouble writing at
>> the appropriate level. The README should primarily ensure that
>> inappropriate articles are not posted, and then refer readers to the
>> "Introduction to comp.groupware" for more information. I can arrange for
>> the actual posting if preferred.

>How about posting the README instead of the Introduction?  No other group I
>download finds it necessary to go into such detail at such frequent

If the README alone can achieve the desired effect fine. However, you
should be aware (especially after our earlier email discussion) that you
are reading this newsgroup in a way that doesn't permit you to handle
periodic posts properly. This is a newsgroup, not a mailing list. What
is appropriate for one, is poor practice for the other. If you must
"download" the group, instead of reading it with a newsreader, you will
find it inconvenient to use at times. The "Introduction" is a slim
volume (14 K) compared to Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) posted to
other groups such as comp.unix.shell (90 K). Look in news.answers to get
an idea what is current practice on Usenet. There will, hopefully, soon
be both a periodic post of groupware literature and a periodic post of
groupware products appearing on a regular basis. Periodic posts could
then easily reach 100 K every two weeks.

I have repeatedly gotten requests to set up a groupware mailing list for
people who for some reason cannot read news. If you, or anyone else,
wishes to maintain a mailing list, I am sure it would be appreciated.
This list could filter periodic posts and organize other services for
people with only email access. Until that time, I do not feel changes to
accommodate a few "downloaders" should be made at the expense of 50,000
Usenet readers. 

My earlier message was made necessary by the failure of the
"Introduction" alone to maintain the quality of the newsgroup. This
points in the direction of *more* introductory material being made
available, not less.

You earlier indicated an interest in republishing material posted to
comp.groupware. This makes you an ideal candidate for maintaining a
mailing list, since such a list is more like a paper publication than a
newsgroup. It would also put you in a position to routinely obtain
copyrights from authors. With this type of business interest, can't you
at least justify a Usenet account?

Get a Usenet account and live it up :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.groupware
From: kswenson@tycho.ossi.com (Keith Swenson)
Subject: Re: Should managers delegate authority to Junior
Reply-To: kswenson@tycho.ossi.com
Organization: Open System Solutions, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:45:07 GMT

In article 154235FR5641A@auvm.american.edu, Fadi A. Rabie <FR5641A@auvm.american.edu> () writes:
>Should managers delegate authority to his subordenates,  and if so
>   should they have the power to make decisions.  Should this happen
>   should the manager be part of the group-decision process.
>
>
>PLEASE REPLY,  THANK YOU.

Yes!
Naturally, a critical part of a manager's job is to decide what, when, and 
to whom to delegate.  Also, studies of how organizations are evolving are
saying that in order to become more productive and to remain competitive 
organizations need to find ways to move the decision making closer to where 
the work is being done, i.e. to lower levels of management.  It seems to me 
that providing systems that make this easier for organizations is one of 
the goals of groupware.

Should the manager remain part of the decision?  I imagine there are cases
where the decision will be delegated, and other cases where the manager
only wishes to involve the junior in the decision process.  Neither case
should be excluded.

-Keith Swenson
 Fujitsu Open Systems
From: mcitera@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: comp.groupware
Subject: Seeking information on electronic whiteboards
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:34:03 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

MI am interested in information on electronic whiteboards.  I would
like information concerning the use of electronic whiteboards in
group decision making.  I am also interested in finding out about
different electronic whiteboards currently available.  Any information
that you could provide will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
MCITERA@Desire.Wright.Edu
Maryalice Citera