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From:         Daniel Mont <D6M@CORNELLA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Alex at kindergarten

Thanks to everyone for writing back so quickly.  This is clearly an
important and emotional issue for our family.  We now know (as I believe
I posted earlier) that we can demand an aide.  But there is a big difference
between having the school put an untrained (or poorly trained) aide in
the classroom and not monitor Alex or understand Alex or address his
particular needs.  That's why I feel going into "demand mode" too
quickly and stridently could be counterproductive.  We might physically
get what we want -- and aide in the class -- but without the cooperation
and understanding of the teachers I don't know how useful that would be.
I would rather convince them then have them have a stake in the decision
and its outcomes then to set up an adverserial relationship.  Of course,
if they seem unconvinceable then we have to just demand things and hope
for the best.  I do believe that with the proper assistance public
school is the right place for Alex and I don't want to burn any bridges.

We have our parent-teacher conference on Monday. We are talking to someone
on the district level this week, and we will make arrangements this week
to take Alex to a place where he can get diagnosed as autistic by someone
the school system acknowledges.  I will let people on this list know
how those first two meetings went.  If I think people are listening to us
and reacting appropriately I think we will let things continue to take
there course.  If we are "dismissed" then clearly we will need to take
more forceful action.  I don't want to procrastinate over something that
is this important but I don't want to break down important relationships
by rushing too quickly -- I mean *demanding* too quickly.

I was sorry to hear of Karl's anguish about being "weird".  Jim Sinclair
wrote on this network awhile ago that we shouldn't "mourn" for autistic
people because they do not "need" or "value" interactions with other people
in the same way non-autistics do.  This has helped Nanette and myself with
Alex.  On the other hand, there are indications that Alex does want
friends and is incapable of establishing friendships.  It is hard to
believe that this doesn't cause him some pain.  Does Karl feel pain
in this regard?  Since there is a range of autistic behavior and since
with any group of humans there is a range of personality I imagine this
issue is not a clear cut one.  I'd like to hear about autistic children
who are older than Alex and how they deal with it.

I also agree with the person (Bill Duncan, I think) who said we need more
discussion of "the system" on this network.
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Subject:      Re: Alex at kindergarten

Dear Ray,
I only wish that were true in N.J.Our aides,at least in my district,
need only to have graduated from high school and no criminal record.
The aides are finger printed,at their own expense,before starting.
Rosanne
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From:         "Kathryn Irene Snyder" <IRENES@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Preferential treatment

I don't like the idea of using just my initials on my publications. It
hides my identity. For one thing, I presented at a conference last year
in wwich all abstracts were listed by author's first initials, and
there was another K.I. Snyder presenting. Lots of people got confused
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I think it's important that people know who I am.
Kathryn Irene Snyder
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From:         "Kathryn Irene Snyder" <IRENES@UNC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Neural development and TV

Jorge said:
> children- specifically, by contributing to the so-called epidemic of Attention
> Deficit Disorders, which is associated with impaired learning and anti-social
> behavior.'                                                             the thi
No. I think regardless of television the proliferation of diagnoses of
ADD is an effect of the disorder's relatively recent recognition. I
strongly suspect that the incident rate of ADD is no higher now than
it ever was, it's just more widely recognized.
As to the neurological effects of TV, I have no opinion, because I have
no data. I don't like TV.
Irene
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From:         "David K. Stotz" <STOTZDK@DUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: More on gender imbalance

     Not having read the Sci. Am. article, I thought I'd offer an informal
hypothesis as to the reason for the 2:1 male:female pulication rates found
in the study.

     Could it have something to do with the academic/work environment from
which research is generated? That is, perhaps women don't get the support
(financially, morally, whatever) for their research from their (mostly male?)
coleagues that the men in the same department get. Thus a less conducive
atmosphere -> less published research. (The same would apply to grant agencies)

$0.02 from Dave Stotz, Drexel, Philly.
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From:         "Julie S. Reynolds Kwee" <HRJS@PSUORVM.BITNET>
Subject:      GSA meeting

Is anyone else going to the Gerontological Society of America (GSA)
meeting in Washington, DC, November 18-22?  It would be nice to meet
other psych grad and undergrad students there.  Also---any recommendations
for good places to eat (cheap, of course) or places to go (other than
those listed in guidebooks)?

Julie

Julie S. Reynolds Kwee (hrjs at psuorvm.bitnet)
Portland State University
Portland, Oregon
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From:         lindberg@PSYCH.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU
Subject:      Sexism and language a la Preferential T

     Don,
     According to Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English
Language, female IS a noun ["A human being of the sex which becomes pregnant
and gives birth to young"  (sic!!!)].
     Perhaps the definition tells us something about the way females are
viewed in society?
     Is the Pope Catholic?
          Nangel
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From:         DON GALLOGLY <GALLOGLY@CWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Sexism and language a la Preferential T

Matthew Simpson writes....

>On Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:07:00 PST Someone said:
>>     According to Webster's Encyclopedic Unabridged Dictionary of the English
>>Language, female IS a noun ["A human being of the sex which becomes pregnant
>>and gives birth to young"  (sic!!!)].
>
>Do you have a better definition to offer the dictionary?  Remember, the
>definition must adequately discriminate the organism as only being female.
>What is your complaint about the definition?  How is the definition
>different from the definition for "male," besides the essential
>discrimination between the two forms of the species?

Right you are, Matthew.  A good definition would allow the appropriate
discrimination, but would not reference the other sex.  No one want "female" to
be defined in terms of "male" nor vice versa.

Don Gallogly
GALLOGLY@CWU.bitnet
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From:         "psp.dasilvaalvo" <J.H.Dasilvaalvo@SEQ.HULL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Help! Low frequency words

Hi all,
Can any of you correct or confirm the Francis & Kucera, 1982, book called
'Frequency analysis of english usage'? Here in the UK there are two books called
'Frequency analysis of English Vocabulary and Grammer: Based on the LOB Corpus
V1: Tag frequencies and word frequencies', and 'V2: Tag combination and word
 combinations' by Johansson and Hofland, 1989. Are these similar to the one
by Francis and Kucera?
Thanks.
Jorge.
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From: STOTZDK@DUVM.BITNET (David K. Stotz)
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Subject: Re: gender imbalance in psychology--discussion
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:03:35 GMT
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Tor,

     Someone once said. . .

          "There are two kinds of people in this world; those who divide
           everyone in the world into two kinds, and those who don't."

     . . . but I can't remember who it was.

Dave Stotz
Drexel
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From:         Tim Tumlin <UFTRT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Preferential treatment (I'm gone)
              9 Nov 1992 20:09:35 -0500 from <mmartin@ACS.UCALGARY.CA>

Jesse! You're back! Cancel the support group.
I thought you'd been run over by a Trojan Horse that let its hair down,
or something like that, some kind of metaphor about white males going to
war over a woman. Lots of blood and gore. Hmmmm.
Too bad about baseball; it's a long way to spring training.
T.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:06:00 EDT
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From:         KMORGAN@WHEATNMA.BITNET
Subject: Re: No, no! Don't do it Jesse!

>poor Anita didn't have _any_ idea what recourse under the
>law she could pursue.  It's not like she went to a decent
>school or anything, or that she worked with EEOC cases every
>freggin day.

Ahem--that was the POINT!  Who better to do discriminating
than the ultimate institution designed to prevent it!  There
WAS no higher legal authority than Clarence Thomas!
--Kathy Morgan
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>Hi all,
>Can any of you correct or confirm the Francis & Kucera, 1982, book
>called 'Frequency analysis of english usage'? Here in the UK there are two
>books called 'Frequency analysis of English Vocabulary and Grammer: Based on
>the LOB Corpus V1: Tag frequencies and word frequencies', and 'V2: Tag
>combination and word combinations' by Johansson and Hofland, 1989. Are these
>similar to the one by Francis and Kucera?

They are similar.  The Francis and Kucera book is a frequency analysis of
American English.  The Johansson and Hofland book is of British English.

BTW, I'm looking for anyone in the UK or elsewhere who knows something about a
BBC show hosted by Jenny (Ginny?) Jones.  She was recently on our campus with
her film crew doing a piece on Washoe and the others in the Chimpanzee-Human
Communication Institute.  I'd like to know what the show is like?  Thanks.

Don
GALLOGLY@CWU.bitnet
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From:         "David K. Stotz" <STOTZDK@DUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Sexism and language a la Preferenti
              11 Nov 1992 09:07:00 PST from <lindberg@PSYCH.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU>

F.Y.I. -

According to Webster's Ninth New Collegiate Dictionary (1988):

1. male adj 1.a. (1) of, relating to, or being the sex that begets young by
   performing the fertilizing functon in generation and produces relatively
   small usu. motile gametes (as sperm, spermatozoids, or spermatazoa) by which
   the eggs of the female are made fertile <~organs> (2): STAMINATE; esp.:
   having only staminate flowers and not producing fruit or seeds <a~holly>
   b. (1): of, relating to, or characteristic of the male sex <a deep ~ voice>
   (2): made up of male individuals and esp. men <a~choir 2: MASCULINE:
   designed for fitting into a corresponding female part <~male hose coupling)
2. male n : a plant or animal that is male.
(language roots are left out above)

It seems that the words male and female are really referring to biological
distinctions only. Moreover, Homo sapiens is not the only species to which the
terms apply, nor is the animal kingdom its only realm of pertainance (sp?). I
think the idea that females are by definition human is undue credit claiming
for the human species. We must remember the bigger picture.

On that note, using the words male and female by themselves to refer to only
human males and females in imprecise. I agree with the person who wrote in
another post that a better terminology is 'men and women,''female subjects
and 'male subjects,' etc.

Of course, in most language "people" is the best term. :>

David Stotz, Drexel, Philadelphia.
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From:         irremediable lascivious galivanter <MONCRIET@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Preferential treatment

Hi Linda,
	I'm at Claremont, just up the freeway from you, and I just
wanted to say that if you want to go to a Raider's game, I'd love
to go.

Another woman who loves football (and not because of men)

Tracy
cgsvax.claremont.edu
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From:         KMORGAN@WHEATNMA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Help with Hippocampi

Eric,

        I wish I _could_ post this exact reference, but in
all honesty, I probably shouldn't even have mentioned it,
because it is unpublished data, literally about two days out
of the lab, and not even her personal data (but rather the
data of some collaborators in her lab).  Those collaborators
have some similar data in Science, I think.  I'll try to get
the refs, and the names, and the permission to contact them
from her.
        Pretty sexy stuff, though--huh!?
        --Kathy Morgan
        kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet
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From:         "psp.dasilvaalvo" <J.H.Dasilvaalvo@SEQ.HULL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Neural development and TV

 Hi all,
I would like to know what is your reaction to the article in Science, vol.258,
pag.738 with the title 'Does TV Stunt Neural Development'. Half way through this
article Constance Holden says that '... some people have become attracted to the
notion that heavy viewing may actually affect brain development in young
children- specifically, by contributing to the so-called epidemic of Attention
Deficit Disorders, which is associated with impaired learning and anti-social
behavior.' The article finishes by suggesting that one should '...turn the thing
off.' On the other hand those that do research in this topic suggest that
children should be taugh whatching TV. It seems to me that this article shows
clearly the rather opposite poles between research evidence and media
manipulation of science. Is that you impression as well?
Bye.
Jorge.
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Coke Cans, L.D. Silver, and that's just for starters!

To all who wrote me public and private re. Anita Hill and discrimination:


1.  Does discrimination exist, in some locales even pervasively?

     Yes.


2.  Are men who perpetrate such acts low-lifes?

     Slightly below the loach.


3.  Should allegations be taken seriously?

      With the utmost veracity.


3.  Does the above give us carte blanche license to toss out due process
     or presumption of innocence?

      Hell no.


4.  Because this problem has recieved conspicously scant attention
     in society and in our legal systems in the past, does that mean
     that to be chic, men should engage in this insipid, banal
     public self-deprecation?

       Like I said, aquiesence to popular opinion often reflects
        a lack of thoughtful engagement in the issue at hand.


Still blithely male and thoroughly guilt-free,
Kenn
kwhite@wam.umd.edu



p.s., For what it's worth I didn't think Thomas should have been confirmed
       either, but unlike most of the pundits, my convictions were based
       on his unimpressive judicial tenure, not Coke Cans.
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From: nichols@spss.com (David Nichols)
Subject: Re: Preferential Treat. Exp.
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:46:45 GMT

In article <01GQY0N3IOQ8000PS3@WHEATNMA.BITNET> KMORGAN@WHEATNMA.BITNET writes:
>Vann,
>
>        Regarding initials on work submitted for publication--
>some folks have suggested that NO NAMES are included on
>articles sent out to reviewers--a truly double-blind
>reviewing system.  That might be the MOST equitable way of
>minimizing discrimination, when you have data (as was cited
>yesterday) that suggests that folks have a tendency to read
>"male names" into lone initials!
>        --Kathy Morgan
>        kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet


Yes, it is common practice among responsible journal editors to send out
manuscripts with no author identification on them. I review for a journal
in which this is done. The value should not be overestimated though,
because the editor still sees the information and that information may
affect who he or she sends the manuscript out to for review. Still better
than full identification all the way, but not ideal.

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From:         lindberg@PSYCH.SSCNET.UCLA.EDU
Subject:      Re: Sexism and language a la Preferenti

     Steve (and other semantically inclined folk):
     Here are Webster's definitions:
     Female: (n) "A human being of the sex that becomes pregnant and gives
birth to young".
     Male: (adj) "Of or belonging to the sex that begets young by fertilizing
the female".

     I'll reiterate my disclaimer:  The implication that females are -by
definition- human, while males are not necessarily so, is Webster's, not
mine.  I am aware that other species have females too.  I have nothing
against female (or male) penguins or dolphins.
     So, are adjectives higher than nouns in the grammatical hierarchy?
            Nangel (a not-yet-humorless feminist)