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From: megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts)
Subject: Re: best food for dog on diet
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 06:27:35 GMT


In article <1992Nov13.223427.18052@linus.mitre.org> pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith) writes:
==> my siberian was neutered in april 1992 and has developed a fierce appetite for
==> dog food.  He has also been found eating cat food and scolded.  His weight
==> has gone from a suitable 53 pounds to 76 pounds since the summer.
[stuff deleted]
==> What kind of diet food is recommended 
==> and in what quantity?  Thanks in advance. 

Science Diet makes a low-calorie dog food
(i think it's R/D) that you can get through your vet.
i think IAMS has a low-calorie food, too, and probably
some others.

another alternative is to supplement the dog food with
vegetables -- cabbage, brocolli, carrots, and so forth.
some dogs like them raw, or you can cook them in chicken
stock (or beef or lamb, too, i suppose) as long as you
make it yourself and it isn't salted (most of the commercial
ones have lots of salt and fat in them and can get pretty
expensive).  apparently the stock has virtually no protein
or minerals to screw up the dog's kidneys, but it gets that
good flavor and smell into the veggies.  my vet had someone
come in with a springer spaniel they had adopted that was
something like 100 pounds overweight, and for three months
they fed it ONLY vegetables and it did fine.  i'd be hesitant
to go to that extreme unless the vet was carefully monitoring
the dog, but supplementing regular dog food with veggies is
a great way to fill the dog up while lowering the caloric intake.

good luck to you.
meg mcroberts
uunet!sco!megm
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: gsd@unislc.uucp (Greg Dodd)
Subject: GSD puppies FOR SALE
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Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:53:32 GMT


GERMAN SHEPHERD puppies For Sale: 

Hi Folks:

A member of the local German Shepherd Dog Club, that I'm a member of, recently
had a litter of puppies sired by one of my males. Consequently, she is looking
for people with good homes for her pet/companions. If you know of anyone who
might be interested in purchasing a puppy please have them contact her:
		
		CANDY ZUMWALT (801) 250-4145

Both parents are OFA'd (Hips&Elbows). This breeding is an outcross. Stradie 
(sire) is of medium size, black & tan, very balanced in movement, excellent 
temperment/dispostion and very correct to the Standard. Stradie is the first 
champion out of three brothers that are currently being campaigned. His pedigree is nationally competitive with any in the country. Stradie's mother, Emmie has most of her minor points, but was bred instead of being finished. Emmie has 
five litter mates who are champions, which ofcourse is an extremly rare
accomplishment. Emmie's father is the all time ROM sire in the history of the
breed. Stradie's father is Futurity Victor Champion of '80 and Grand father
was indeed the Grand Victor for that same year. Stradie also has his CD. 

Asta (dam) is of medium size, solid black, good substance and also has a 
excellent temperment. Asta's father is a grandson the World Sgr Eros. Asta's
mother is line breed on Covy-Tucker Hill's Oregano ROM (4-4). Even though I 
don't know much about her, she seems quite delightful at the training classes,
mentally sound, and healthy.

These puppies should be very interesting to watch grow and see how they develop.At the moment they do look promising! for how young they are and the out- cross.This a breeding of solid conformation lines (ex) the working lines.
 
Here's a copy of the pedigree

				'80GV CH. Aspen of Fran-Jo ROM
			'80FV CH. Destino's Serge ROM
				CH. Shadyhaven's Glory CD ROM
		CH. Judd-Dodd's Stradivari CD 
				4xSEL CH. Stuttgart's Sundance Kid ROM
			H and R Emmie of Windyridge
				Covy Tucker Hill's Pinata ROM
	Litter Whelped 10/12/92 
				Fello vom Tunnel Hochbuhl CD
			Bodo von Athonhof CD TT SCH III
				Alexa von Athon CD
		Asta von der Zumwalt 
				Schnook von Dyer 
			Lauber's Liebchen 
				Horizon Hill's Brooklyn 

Regards

Greg
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Problem With Neighbors' Cat
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:31:00 GMT
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From the dog owner's point of view:  Any HINT of prey drive against a 
cat earns our Dobie a roll -- right there in front of the cat.  With 3
cats of our own and another dozen or so on the block, we don't want him 
to even consider the notion that cats are fair game.  (I fire a shot
across his bows with regard to squirrels just to keep the barking down, 
but it doesn't seem nearly as important -- he has equal chances of 
catching a squirrel and flying through the bougainvillea with the 
hummingbirds.  The squirrels know this and tease him without mercy.  :)

From the cat owner's point of view: Your three dogs cornered the poor
kitty (putting up the best possible facade of imminent bloody murder,
I'm sure, whatever their actual intentions) and you're unhappy because
it fought back?  

It's an unhappy situation all around, I'll admit, and this doesn't
sound like perhaps the best of neighbors.  But maybe both sides can
kinda meet in the middle on this one.

My cats are indoor-outdoor cats that spend most of their time in the
house but clamor for their time in the garden.  Where, yes, they might
encounter other cats and have to deal with it.  I respect the "keep
cats indoors" arguments but do not agree with them.  Life is not a
sterilized, safety-engineered theme park.

Cheers,
--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
From: grega@hpwala.wal.hp.com (Greg Anderson)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:55:58 GMT
Subject: Looking for Beagles in New England
Organization: The Village
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Reply-To: grega@hpwala.wal.hp.com (Greg Anderson)
Keywords: Beagles, Breeders
UUCP-Path: hpwala!grega

Howdy,

I'm looking for any good breeders of Beagles in New England, and frankly
I'm coming up pretty short.  I've already tried the AKC and the National
Beagle Club.  The only pointer I got there was to a woman who never seems
to answer her phone (to be fair, I guess she's pretty busy).

Anyway, any help towards finding any Beagle breeders, professional or
otherwise, in any of the New England states would be most appreciated.

Are Beagles getting rarer these days, or what?

Thanks
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From: loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:34:11 GMT
Subject: Re: Greyhound Racing
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

|His response was that many of the owners would try to place the retired
|dogs in homes only to find that they were being put in the backyard of
|someones home and being neglected and not properly fed. The owners
|decided that they would rather put the dogs down than have them go into
|that type of enviorment. At least then they knew that the dogs were not
|being abused. While I don't agree totally with this attitude I do
|understand it. 

To some owners/breeders of Sighthounds, the worst death for their dog is
to be fat and not exercised.  This is the flip side of the coin.  I have
known a Afghan Show Person that has put down their entire Show
Kennel, because they could not find people who take care of their hounds
properly.  He did not want his dogs to go to some home, not fed properly
and exercised regularly (as well as abused by their new masters).  He
felt that he owed that much to his dogs.  

I do feel that strongly, but I do understand where he is coming from.

Kirk
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From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Mans best friend wipes out owner...news at 11..
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7368A944B072631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 23 Nov 92 18:18:12 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:20:11 GMT


For "what it's worth" dept...I found an disturbing article in
todays Washington Post...


"A 56-year-old Anne Arundel Country woman was fatally injured
Saturday when the dog she was walking dragged her into the path of
a pickup truck"
	Alice Jane Price, of the 1300 block of Boxgrove Court in Pasadena, 
was walking the dog with a leash on Wateroak Point Road shortly
before 5:30 p.m. when the incident occurred.
	Price was taken to North Arundel Hospital, where she was pronounced
dead.  Police said the Pasadena man driving the truck was not charged."

I guess, in a morbid sense, this shows an example of two things:

(1).  Always get the dog properly trained  (heel etc).
(2).  Never have a dog , particuliarly for the elderly (although 56 is
       NOT old ;-) , that you can't handle.  

I don't know what size the dog or the lady was (the article didn't say). 
I
imagine she was not a large person and the dog was probably alot stronger
than her and was not properly trained.  I admit these are just
assumptions of
course and pretty wild ones at that.   Who knows?  Maybe the dog wasn't
even hers...

It's sad either way... 

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
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From: robins@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Robin Scheiderer)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:24:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Deafness and Dalmatians
Organization: HP Intelligent Networks Operation
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

/ hpspdla:rec.pets.dogs / ml31157@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Latash ) /  2:02 pm  Nov 17, 1992 /
There has been some talk about deafness being associated with white colora-
tion.  This is simply not so.  The genes are not linked.  If you want some
examples, think about whether dogs like Great Pyrenees or white Great Danes
are reported to be more deaf than other dogs.  In my opinion and experience,
there is no real correlation between deafness and white color OR deafness and
the Dalmatian breed.  Dalmatians ARE more prone than most to a urological
syndrome that causes the urea in urine to crystallize.  This has traditional-
ly been a genetic problem with this breed until one enterprising and astute
breeder whose name escapes me now decided to bring in Pointer blood into the
breed.  The urological problem is due to two recessive alleles (for those of
you who know a little genetics), and within a few generations, this breeder was
able to get rid of this trait.  After that, he began the long and arduous task
of "cleaning" out the Pointer blood from his dogs, and, after many years, was
finally able to put his dogs back into the stud books.  He got rid of the
genetic defect.

Dr. Mike DVM
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From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: Deafness and Dalmatians
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:16:22 GMT

In article <Bxvrw2.Buy@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ml31157@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Michael Latash ) wrote:
> 
> There has been some talk about deafness being associated with white colora-
> tion.  This is simply not so.  The genes are not linked.  If you want some
> examples, think about whether dogs like Great Pyrenees or white Great Danes
> are reported to be more deaf than other dogs.  In my opinion and experience,

> there is no real correlation between deafness and white color OR deafness and
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> the Dalmatian breed.  
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
*stuff deleted about Dalmatian Urological problems*

Wrong here "Dr." Mike.....

You are correct in the statement that deafness is not linked to the color
of the Dalmatian.  White coloration in any breed is not a sign or an 
indication of the incidence of deafness within that breed.

There is, however,  a *much, much* higher incidence of deafness in the 
Dalmatian than in other breeds.  

Check out the following references (pulled up on the UIUC library files):

      JOURNAL-OF-VETERINARY-INTERNAL-MEDICINE.
      1992, MAY-JUN, V6, N3.

FREVERT-CW.  WARNER-AE.                                               p 154
AR3:  UNILATERAL AND BILATERAL BRAINSTEM AUDITORY-EVOKED
RESPONSE ABNORMALITIES IN 900 DALMATIAN DOGS.  (English).  Article.
Abstract Available.

HOLLIDAY-TA.  NELSON-HJ.  WILLIAMS-DC.  WILLITS-N.                    p 166
AR4:  BRAINSTEM AUDITORY-EVOKED POTENTIAL ASSESSMENT OF
CONGENITAL DEAFNESS IN DALMATIANS - ASSOCIATIONS WITH PHENOTYPIC
MARKERS.  (English).  Article.  Abstract Available.

Author:  Marshall-A-Edward.
Title:  Use of brain stem auditory-evoked response to evaluate
deafness in a group of Dalmatian dogs
Source (jrnl):  Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association. v.
188, Apr. 1 '86, p. 718-22.
   
Author:  Ferrara-M-L. Halnan-C-R-E.
Title:  Congenital structural brain defects in the deaf dalmatian.
Source (jrnl):  The Veterinary Record. v. 112, Apr. 9 '83, p. 344-6.
   

> Dr. Mike DVM

No offense intended, but is there a new program here at the U of I that 
grants DVM degrees to undergrads ?  If so, I'd like to hear about it !!!

Kathy
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"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Subject: Re: Dog with kidney problems that wouldn't eat -- thanks to all
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:38:39 GMT
Distribution: jadpc2

In article <9211181326.AA2077@f723.n202.z1.fidonet.org> ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>  I think it is completely selfish and even cruel to give someone
>false hope.  The plain fact of the matter was that Sheila was deathly
>ill.  There was absolutely No chance of a recovery unless she was put
>on dialysis, or had a kidney transplant.  Kidneys are not optional. 
>When they Quit on you, you're DEAD.
>  It doesn't take a genius to figure this out.  In a situation like
>this, about the only thing a person can do is reconcile themselves to
>the death.  It is obvious how much you cared for Sheila, and that you
>would have done anything in your power to return her to health. Hope
>you are doing o.k. 
>--- FMail 0.92
> * Origin: HILLCREST COMMUNITY BBS, SAN DIEGO: HST 619-291-0544 (1:202/703)

Elaine,

I certainly agree that "false" hope can be cruel, however, hope
is one of those human traits that is necessary for survival.  If you
are receiving feedback about your posts (not only this one, but
others along the same lines) that is negative, I believe it is
because of the "tone" of your posts.  The feelings I get from this
newsgroup have always been very positive (with a few exceptions) 
and very supportive.  I assume your are not a vet (and if you are,
you should not be practicing via a computer anyway) and so should
not be diagnosing any animal as being terminal.  I can understand
that you would not want to "lie" to anyone, but I have seen many
miraculous things happen in life that many people would have thought
impossible.

Linda
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 12:28:40 EST
From: <ELDREDGE@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Frito Feet (Lab)

It's been a while since I read (or posted) to r.p.d, but I need some info.  My
3 year old Lab bitch has recently started gnawing on her paws (all 4 in
rotation).  Naturally, I've been checking them everytime I notice her chewing.
Last night I noticed that they smell like corn chips.  All I could remember
from previous posts on this net, is the corn chip smell indicates---something.
Could someone please <E-MAIL> me what this may indicate?

Thanks,
Cynthia Eldredge
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kirsten@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kirsten Starcher)
Subject: Re: New to group - introduction
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:20:15 GMT

In article <9211181326.AA2076@f723.n202.z1.fidonet.org> ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>  I don't want my dog to bark his head off when someone knocks on the
>door.  I can hear someone knocking.  I want the dog to bark when there
>is a strange noise going on that I Can't hear- such as someone
>snooping around in the back yard or windows.

If your dog barks at every little noise he hears outside, he's going to be
barking a lot.  When it gets windy here (which is frequently), our mailbox lid
tends to slam a lot.  Sheila used to get the impression that that meant someone
was putting something in the mailbox and was therefore on our property, and
would woof a few times.  Or if some people were laughing as they walked down
the street.  Sometimes it's nice to know, but dogs can't discriminate between
something that's a definite threat and something that just sounds a little
out of place.

At least if the dog barks at the doorbell, it lets the guy on the other side
know that you've got a dog.  And if your dog has a loud voice, it makes it much
more impressive.


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From: bev@pmafire.inel.gov (Beverly Novak)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:31:26 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: Re: More Wolf Hybrid Opinions
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: 

Finally some one who wrote a possitive post about hybyrds.  Mine is
great.  I was getting so sick of every one telling me my beautifull pet
should never be a pet.

Bev Novak
bev@pmafire.inel.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: mommaerts@medgen.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: Teething Pup
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 20 NOV 92 11:24:18 CST


my almost 4 months samoyed has started what I think is teething.. It seems
that he lost 2 front "baby" teeth.  What can I expect with this phase?  He
seems to be a little more 'bitey'-- is this to be expected? how long does
this last? How many teeth fall out?

I'd appreciate any info..

thanks

**Sandi|
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: DOG IS SICK
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:52:36 GMT

In article <9211151200.AA2067@f723.n202.z1.fidonet.org> ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>  Your old dog sounds very sick.  It's probably cancer.  Maybe
>advanced liver disease.  You can consider putting the dog down,
>although it doesn't sound like he is going to live much longer on his
>own.

I can't believe I am reading this.  Your empathy is overwelming.  I'm sorry,
but I do not think this is very constructive advice at all.  Net diagnoses
like this are very imaginative.  Maybe its a brain tumor.  Maybe its gas. 
Aw, heck.  Put the dog down anyway since it is not feeling well.  That'll
solve it.

I appologize for the tone of my post.  Its just that this post really bothered me.

>--- FMail 0.92
> * Origin: HILLCREST COMMUNITY BBS, SAN DIEGO. HST 619-291-0544 (1:202/703)

-- 
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OooWoo Racing Kennel           | I'd rather be driving sled
E-Mail: srlee@beta.lanl.gov    | dogs.
From: dana@rlathena.athena.lkg.dec.com (Dana Mackonis)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Mutts vs. Purebreds
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:45:03 GMT
Reply-To: dana@rlathena.athena.lkg.dec.com (Dana Mackonis)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In response to Don Martin's reply...

I couldn't have said it better myself!


dana mackonis
Cachet Noir Belgian Tervuren
From: bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:54:53 GMT
Subject: Summary of CCI graduation
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

This is a quick summary of the CCI graduation held Nov. 21st in San Francisco.
The facility was packed with people and dogs and we had a great time.  The
graduating class was the biggest I've seen from this region- something like
8-10 hearing-impaired people with their new signal dogs, and then an additional
8-10 mobility-impaired people with their new service dogs. 

It's standard for a puppy raiser of one of the graduating dogs to give a quick
speech about what it's like to be a puppy raiser.  She spoke of how she would
regularly bring her golden retriever puppy to a classroom where he would visit
with all the kids.  She'd let him out to run in the yard with them, and he would
tear all around.  One day, he didn't run around, he would not leave the side
of one boy.  She shrugged it off until the end of their visit, when she could
not believe that he practically glued himself to this one child.  She found 
out that 3 days earlier, that child's mother left their house to assist someone
who had just had a car crash.  In doing so, she somehow stepped on an electric
wire and was fatally electrocuted.  Her dog was able to sense the child's
despair.  

It's also standard to have a person who's had a CCI service dog speak and tell
the audience what a difference the dog has made for them.  The man who spoke
Saturday told of situations where his motorized chair would overturn and the
dog would go for help.   They're wonderful assistants.  By the way, CCI
graduated its first Sheltie as a signal dog!  Let's hope more will come.
From: kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dirty Paws!
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:45:22 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <1992Nov13.082445.2022@yogi.hsc.ucalgary.ca> steve@yogi.hsc.ucalgary.ca writes:
>What does the net do about dirty paws?
Well, my paws don't usually get dirty, but my hands do.  (sorry!)  :)

>Are there such things as "Dog Boots"?  I would put them on before she went out
>and take them off when she came in.  No more dirty floors/carpets!!!
>
>Do these things exist?  Does anyone use them?  Do they stay on?  What do you
>do?

Steve...although I've never used them personally, I've seen little boots in
RC Steele for...ummm..$12.95, I think, for a set of 4.  If you do try them,
let me know how they work.  I'd be curious.  :)

Kelly
 
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