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From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Nash hard to start when hot
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:33:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.202113.9031@cs.cornell.edu> chapman@cs.cornell.edu (Richard Chapman) writes:
"Another one for the collected wisdom of the net:
"
"My '37 Nash, after getting up to operating temperature (temp gauge
"showing 180) and driving around for a while, is hard to start if
"turned off and left for a bit, until it cools all the way back down. 
"If I stop the motor and crank it again right away, it starts, but if
"I let it sit for say five minutes, I've got to give it starter fluid
"to get it to start again, or wait until it cools down. What could be
"the problem? Once cool, it seems to start fine. 

vapor lock.

unleaded gas contains a lot more volatiles than the old stuff.

try routing the fuel lines away from hot stuff, and insulating them.

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From: robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD))
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Need Some Corvair Info.
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:49:13 GMT
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County

After doing a bit of soul searching, and knowing that I need *something*
for an extra car to drive, I decided to resurrect the 1964 Corvair
convertible that I stashed away (along with a few other cars) several
years ago.  It didn't look TOO bad (I last saw it about three years
ago), but it needs some work -- and some parts.  The car has never been
restored, but the engine had just been rebuilt (it runs fine) when I
put it away for later.

Here are my questions:

My 10-year-old+ Corvair catalogs are predominantly from companies that
are no longer in business.  Two of them (Clark's in Mass., and Corvair
Underground, in Ore.) still seem to be around, and I've ordered updated
catalogs.  Does anyone know of other sources for Corvair parts, etc.?
Does anyone happen to have the address and phone number for CORSA (CORvair
Society of America)?  Any other people on the net who still thumb their
noses at Ralph Nader?

E-mailed or posted replies appreciated.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh)
Subject: Re: Misc.
Originator: kevinh@nath
Reply-To: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:17:47 GMT


In article <J705RB1w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, adrake@bluemoon.rn.com (Andy Drake) writes:
|> Anyone, anyone know anything about a Ford Fiesta club? Anyone have one of 
|> these relly fun cars? Thanks,

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Does that answer your question?

kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: on that 68 continental, no manual, but that 460...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:49:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.180824.4813@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> overland@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael A. Overland) writes:
[]
"If there are anymore places that might have parts for this car (such as a 
"flame proof starter) please let me know.
"Michael Overland

check out the lincoln continental owners club -- they're in hemmings,
i think.  (sorry, don't have the address handy).

they *are* heavy cars -- my '67 coupe is 5200 lbs *empty*; the
converts were over 6000...

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From: pgheit01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Willys Jeep problems (Take 2)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:20:31 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Sorry if this becomes a duplicate.

My brother is having problems with his '44 Willys Jeep.  It has a '47 engine in
it.  After buying it, he replaced the points, condensor (I think), coil, plugs,
plug wires, vacuum line, and rebuilt the carb.  We also disconnected and
plugged the vacuum line to the wipers.  This engine starts, idles, and runs
fine, and you can rev the engine in neutral.  When you go to take off, the
engine backfires through the carb (ie, when there is a load on the engine).
This happens no matter where se set the timing.  People have said that the
vacuum advance is going bad, and the only thing we can get around here is a
whole distributor for $135 (ouch!)

So I guess I have two questions:
a.) any ideas on what is going wrong?  
b.) any addresses for places that will mail-order parts for this old beast? We
    are looking for good prices on this one!

Seems that most of the stuff we run into is for the civilian type jeep with one
windshield.  I guess engine parts are nearly identical, but some of the body
stuff is different.  

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From: keithd@versyss.com (Keith Doyle)
Subject: Re: WWW radials available?
Reply-To: keithd@versyss.UUCP (Keith Doyle)
Organization: VERSYSS Incorporated, Torrance, California
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:30:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.092304.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> massengale_m@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>Does anyone know if WWW radials are being manufactured?  My car has
>bias-ply Firestone 404s (L78-15) and I'd like to switch them for radials,
>but I love the look of WWW on a fifties car.

I don't see any radials in their flyer, but you can contact Lucas at two
locations:

2141 West Main
Springfield, OH 45505
Hours: 9-5 Fax: (513)325-1900
Phone(513)324-1773

Or

2850 Temple Ave
Long Beach, CA 90806
Hours: 9-5 Fax (213)595-0381
Phone(213)595-6721
Note:  these 213 codes are probably 310 now, the flyer's about a year
old and 213 has been split since that time.

Keith
From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Chrysler Town & Country question
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:49:04 GMT
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility

In article <92269.150353WJT101@psuvm.psu.edu> WJT101@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Hello,
>I was wondering if any Chrysler buffs would know if the Town & Country
> model (besides the current mini-van) was ever available without the wood
> paneling??  Thanks!!

YES! I have a 48 Town and Country 2-door coupe with the straight 8 engine
and fluid drive transmission WITHOUT THE WOOD BODY!

Its called the 1948 Chrysler New Yorker.

The T&C is worth more.

Mark
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From: cobra@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Roland Dudley)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: WWW radials available?
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:23:08 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA

In alt.autos.antique, massengale_m@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:

> Does anyone know if WWW radials are being manufactured?  My car has
> bias-ply Firestone 404s (L78-15) and I'd like to switch them for radials,
> but I love the look of WWW on a fifties car.

Do I correctly understand WWW to mean wide white wall?  If so, you might
be able find a place that can apply the white wall to most any modern
non white wall tire.  I know this can be done for certain vintage red
and white wall stripes.
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Triumph TR-8 and TR-7/V8 owners
Organization: TR-8 Owners
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 16:43:53 GMT


TR-8 Club and Email list:

   Interested in the Triumph TR7-V8/TR8?  Know someone who owns one?
   Do YOU own one?  The TR8 Car Club of America (TR8CCA) currently has
   a membership of over 200 TR8 owners (or aspiring ones!) and is
   currently trying to locate all surviving TR8's!  If you've got a
   TR8 or TR7/V8 and would be interested in joining, please write to

           Bill Sweeting
           Membership, TR8CCA
           266 Linden Street
           Rochester NY  14620  USA

   If you know of anyone who has a TR7-V8/TR8, could you please pass
   this message along to them?  Yearly dues are $US 20. and includes all
   the newsletters for that year (a recent newsletter was about 25
   pages of letters, info, ads, and tidbits).  A sample newsletter is
   available for $US 3.

   By the way, membership does NOT require owning a TR7 V8/TR8.

888888888888888888888888888888888888888888

   There is also a very small email list (maybe 20 members?) dedicated
strictly to discussion of the TR7-V8/TR8.  We typically discuss little
details that would not be appropriate to the british-cars list, e.g.,
exhaust, interior colours, concours questions, fuel injection items, etc.
On average, traffic on this mailing list is very light (about 1/2 dozen
messages per week).  If any of you are interested in subscribing, please
contact me at the address below.  You do NOT need to own a TR7(V8)/TR8 to
subscribe.

L8er!
Jim TenCate
jtc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
From: mdl@phelixsalt (Michael Lynch)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Flat-Head V-8.  Opinions?
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:28:27 GMT
Reply-To: mdl@phelixsalt (Michael Lynch)
Organization: Bellcore

In article <1992Oct6.134249.17349@mcnc.org>, brooks@mcnc.org (Ted Brooks) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct5.155105.1@acad2.alaska.edu> asdch@acad2.alaska.edu writes:
|> >	That '57 ford truck I earlier inquired about has the original flat-head
|> >V-8.  I would appreciate any opinions on this engine in terms of worth or 
|> 
|> Huh? Are you sure that this is a '57, and that it's a flathead? If so, it's
|> not the original engine. Ford replaced the flathead with the Y block engine
|> in '53 as I recall (help me out here, Ford experts).
|>  
|> Ted Brooks
|> 


1953 was indeed the last year for flatheads, at least in Ford cars.  It
was replaced by the Y-block.  I'm not sure that the car and truck engine
changes tracked one another, but I doubt seriously that Ford was putting
flatheads in anything by 1957.  ("The Fabulous Ford Flathead" [author?]
says (if memory serves) that the flathead V8 was produced from 1932 to
1953, in various forms.  I should have said above that the Y-block engine
was introduced in 1954. 

To replace a later engine with a flathead would mean significant frame
changes, considering the location of the motor mounts on the flathead.
I'm wondering if the engine in question is really a flathead.  If it is,
and it's the AB block, it'll have 48 clearly visible head bolts, two
water pumps, and an oil filter separate from the block, either attached
to the head by a bracket or clamped to the firewall.  Not to mention the
conspicuous absence of valve covers.


Mike Lynch
mdl@oscar.bellcore.com
From: massengale_m@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Steering/Alignment Difficulties
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:55:02 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Would like some advice on steering problems with my '54 Ford:

I am not sure how "positive" the steering should be in this car.  There
was quite a bit of "play" in the steering; i.e., the car would "wander"
in the lane and require quite frequent correction.  Recently, I had the
car aligned and while this improved the steering somewhat,  there is
still a tendency to "wander."

There was no evidence of damage to the balljoints or tie rods when I
had the alignment done.  Am wondering if the car needs a going-over
by someone who specializes in frames and/or chassis work.

Also, the car still has bias-ply tires, which were rotated with the
alignment.  Should I consider radials on this old car?  The treads are
still in good condition.

I am simply not sure how well this car should handle.  Perfection might
be asking too much.

Thanks for any help.

Melanie
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: El Caminos
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:36:28 GMT

In <92280.150422KPW104@psuvm.psu.edu> K-JAMZ <KPW104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>    Anyboby know if an 1980 El Camino would be considered a classic?  I was
>under the understanding that if they are not made anymore and 10 yrs. old
>then they were a classic, otherwise it was 15 years. I am just curious!  Plus
>I would like to hear from any El Camino/Chevelle freaks out there! Either post
>or send to me!!!! Thanks!

	In a word, no.  If you think they will be, I've an '83 that *just*
turned 100K miles I'll sell for an outragous price. ;-)  Classics are
determined on aesthetics more than formula; a '79 Pro Street El Camino
goes for around $2000 here, and a Chevelle of nearly any year is worth
less than $1000 unless well-restored and just cherry on the bodywork.

	Look for more rare cars, or those with nifty styling -- those
will be the classics and worth top dollar.  Nobody will ever say the
AMC Gremlin was a classic, despite a limited run, nor the Eagle SX-4,
but the Javelin SST and AMX SST might be so considered.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"I see angels on Ariels in leather and>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | chrome, Swooping down from heaven to >
<viking@iastate.edu      | carry me home."   ---    R. Thompson >
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Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh)
Subject: Re: Dirt Belchers
Originator: kevinh@nath
Reply-To: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:47:22 GMT


In article <1992Oct1.190246.26144@walter.bellcore.com>, mdl@phelixsalt (Michael Lynch) writes:
|> 
|> BUT......
|> 
|> There's a much bigger culprit than old cars, and in an 
|> environmental sense it's sort penny wise and pound foolish
|> to go after cars when our highways are crowded with belching
|> diesels.  Trucks, mostly.  Instead of chasing down old cars,
|> why aren't we trying to clean up diesels?  They stink, the
|> fumes burn the eyes, the soot covers everything -- not to
|> mention the invisible stuff being puffed into the air.


Diesels actually pollute less than petrol motors, especially those
diesels equipped with 2-way cats, which also claim to give out no
additional visible pollution (i.e. soot) than a petrol engined car.  

|> I'm going to make my '53 Ford as efficient and clean as
|> possible within the limitations of that old flathead, but I
|> have to say, as long as diesels are allowed to run
|> uncontrolled up and down the roads, my conscience won't bother
|> me much if the old Ford runs a tad dirtier than my Honda.

"a Tad"!!!, probably 10-20 times more than your Honda.


|> Mike Lynch

kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch
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From: enw2049@rigel.tamu.edu (WALKE, ERIK N)
Subject: Re: Old car info needed
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:24:00 GMT

In article <droland.920928173722@lab17.eng.auburn.edu>, droland@eng.auburn.edu
(David A. Roland) writes...

>While looking around on some land my Dad just bought I
>discovered some old cars, a 1941 Chevy Special Deluxe,
>a ~39 Chevy Convertible, ~42 Station Wagon, and ~35 
>School Bus, and 40-50 International Combine.  

       Are you sure it's a '42?  (I presume you mean it is a 
       Chevy station wagon.)  If so then it is a rather rare car
       due to war-limited '42 model year production, but you 
       probably alread knew that.  Where are these cars located?

>These cars are pretty rough, it looks like they have
>been here for probably 30 or 40 years and the engines are
>gone out of most of them, and the floorboards and frames
>are rusted out, but the bodies are solid enough to walk
>around on with no major body damage, all the chrome parts
>are on them and the hoods, doors, bumpers and fenders are
>fine.  Is any of this stuff worth anything?  I can go
>pull the good parts off or get the whole vehicles if they
>are but if I  decide they are not the timber people are
>going to plow over them.  So I need some help deciding.
> 
>Thanks for any information,
>-Al
> 
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  All opinions expressed by this user are well-reasoned and insightful. 
  Needless to say, they are not those of his advisor or university.
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From: overland@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael A. Overland)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: 68 continential
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:49:15 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

Hello,
This guy that I know is looking for the shop manuals for his 1968 Continential.
This guy really needs them because he ios fixing up the car for his mother
so she can have transportation around town.  The car has the 460 4v engine
(if it really matters) and a starter that likes to catch on fire when the car
is started.  I told the guy to look in Hemings to see if he could get a lead
on the manuals.  If anyone knows of some other places to look, please let me
know.
                                              Thanks in advance,
                                               Michael Overland
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From: vancleef@netcom.com (Henry van Cleef)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Environmentalists versus old cars (long)
Date: 28 Sep 92 05:21:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom--posted from Andover, Mass.

In article <1992Sep26.154006.2397@hasler.ascom.ch> kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep24.205740.5171@photon.com>, jbn@photon.photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
>|>      I am a car person.  I drive a 1966 Pontiac Tempest and a 1972
>|> Buick Estate Wagon.  Both have eight cylinders, were built before
>|> the use of unleaded gas, and barely clear 10 miles per gallon.  I
>|> enjoy driving them both.
>|> 
"Old cars" should be judged by the dismal gas mileage of a 1972 car,
which was purposely built to get low mileage in the name of "emissions."

I recall distinctly gettin 21 mpg from my '41 Chev. club coupe---one of
the best cars I ever owned, and the big news about the OHV 8 in the '49
Cad and Olds was that they pushed a 4000 lb. C body around while getting
a solid 18 mpg.  
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From: letters@cs.umb.edu (Kathy Hargreaves)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Junking Old Cars (long)
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:00:46 GMT
	<1992Sep23.173944.9684@versyss.com>
	<1992Sep24.112736.29593@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Reply-To: letters@cs.umb.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Unfortunately, to meet the FED. emmision standards, they will probably
have to use fiberglass!  So don't worry about you classics, they will be
forever special.  Besides, I think detroit lost all of it's class and
grip on reality back in the 1970's with the Pinto.

The roving mechanic
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: jws@billy.mlb.semi.harris.com (James W. Swonger)
Subject: Re: Old car info needed
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:44:23 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

 If it were me, I'd keep all of it myself. I like scrap :)

 I'd advertise the '39 convertible especially if the top mechanism and 
glass is all there; even without a motor you could get a couple thou
probably. MAKE A GREAT STREET ROD BWahahahahaHA! Hee. (Deliberate 
violation of proposed rec.autos.antique charter there). Seriously, 
try putting an ad in Hemmings and/or Cars & Parts. For the other cars
if you can, leave them as-is and let people come to you and pull what
they want. Put an ad in the Atlanta paper and mention the types you
have.

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From: pgheit01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Parts needed for Willys Jeep
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:09:46 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

Hi all!

My brother recently bought a 1944 Willys Jeep.  We think that the vacuum
advance is broken.  Although the local jeep dealer still carries parts, we can
only get the ENTIRE distributor for about $135.  Does anyone know of any other
way to get parts for this car?  Any addresses for restoration catalogues or
parts places that would carry these parts.  Most of the stuff we find is for
the later model civilian type jeep with the single windshield. (Although engine
parts are the same for them I think.)  BTW the engine is from a '47 if that
makes a difference.

Many Thanks,

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Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: 61 FORD
From: Steve_Baldwin@kcbbs.gen.nz (Steve Baldwin)
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:19:38 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

I have had really good service from Kanter Auto Supplies. I phoned them 
up and ordered on the credit card and they were able to tell what the 
shipping costs to New Zealand would be right there and then.

I got a front end rebuild kit for a '62 Fairlane but found that I should 
have ordered the deluxe kit as that includes a replacement top arm pivot. 
If the '61 uses the same suspension configuration as the '62 then that 
part is most likely to need replacing.

I've spoken to others who regularly order from the US and they have 
commented that Kanter were one of the better to deal with.

Steve.
From: ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey)
Subject: 66 Mustang and leaded gas
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Date: 25 Sep 92 23:57:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ben Bailey's Home..Tampa Fl.

I'm new to this group, but I haven't seen this question before.  Is
there any problem with driving a 66 Mustang with lead free gas?  If
so, what's the solution?  Any damage risk?  If so, to what? (Motor
or fuel lines, etc).

Thanks!

Ben
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