HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kevinr@ceco.ceco.com (Kevin R. Rumbaugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Auto screen lock for OpenWin
Date: 1 Oct 92 01:44:09 GMT
Reply-To: kevinr@gamma.UUCP (Kevin R. Rumbaugh)
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co.

In article <1992Sep29.143520.24924@tinman.mke.ab.com> tdphette@mke.ab.com (Thad Phetteplace x4461) writes:
>I have written an auto screen lock program for openwindows that waits for a
>given period of mouse and keyboard inactivity and then calls the screenlock 
>program of your choice (usually xlock).  The program is xview based with a

   Sounds really good to me. I have been thinking about this for 
   the last couple of weeks.  I would love it, it would save me
   from trying to hack something up.  It seems that such a feature
   should be an option to xlock.  I definately would want a copy.
> 
>--
>Thad Phetteplace
>Email: tdphette@mke.ab.com
>
> 

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From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Re: SUN4 - SUN3
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:39:28 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Sep28.132937.22618@dcc.uchile.cl> ncristi@dcc.uchile.cl (Nelson Cristi Zayas) writes:
<
<      I get a C program, it runs on a SUN3 but not on a SUN4.
<I need to port it. It will be helpful to know the diferencess
<(byte ordering,word size,word alignment,byte addressing,etc.)
<between SUN3 and SUN4. 

You have to recompile the source.  You cannot change the executable to get
it to run on a completely different processor.

No source?  You are stuck.
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From: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu (Frank Peters)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: AnswerBook: strange file sizes
Keywords: AnswerBook file size
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:32:35 GMT
Organization: Computing Center, Mississippi State University

In article <1992Sep29.060346.11494@bnr.ca> dhughes@bnr.ca says:
: Has anyone noticed what seems to be a discrepancy in the file sizes in the
: AnswerBook/SysSoft1.3 directory.  I installed the AnswerBook with index files
: on hard disk, but with the ps docs on CDROM.  Everything works fine, but when
: I do a directory, ls reports enormous file sizes ...
: 
: -rw-r--r--  1 root         4096 Sep  8 14:22 IPXINSTALL.dir
: -rw-r--r--  1 root      4039680 Sep  8 14:22 IPXINSTALL.pag

DBM .pag files have large "holes" (blocks of zero bytes).  To conserve
space the disk space for these blocks of zeros aren't allocated.  You
can see this by using 'ls -s'.  The -s flag shows the actual size of
the file on disk while 'ls -l' shows the logical size of the file.

: AnswerBook works fine, and df reports sensible results so why do I care ?
: Well, when I try to backup anthing containing this directory hierachy
: with bar it takes up gigabytes!

Many programs (like cp and, as you have discovered, bar) don't deal
intelligently with these blocks of zeros.  They read the zeros and
allocate space for them on their output device.  The result is that the
files grow to their "logical" size on copying or barring (?).

The only real solution is to use another backup program that deals with
these files intelligently.  The dump/restore utilities do.  The GNU tar
program does.  Bar and tar don't.  I don't recall whether cpio does or
not.

: Can anyone tell me what is wrong or what I don't understand ?
: 
: David.
: 
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:
From: webster@bnr.ca (Brent Webster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Auto screen lock for OpenWin
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:23:53 GMT
Reply-To: webster@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research Ltd

It sounds like a program I could use but...

As part of our company's standard /etc/rc.local file, it starts up
/bin/screenblank routine which runs outside the OpenWindows domain
and is not affected by the xset's s option parameters to disable/enable
the screensaver routines.  

I've wrapped a csh script around my xnlock routine to periodically
issue: 'echo -n "." >/dev/console'.  This will allow your xWindow locking
facility to keep displaying without the screenblank routine kicking in.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: mulcihy@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (David Mulcihy [483-1884 coopes])
Subject: Text Editor
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:50:32 GMT

How do you get the find and replace menu to stay up once you try to find
something.
David Mulcihy
mulcihy@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: adam@cs.curtin.edu.au (Adam Sawyer)
Subject: GIF Viewer for Sun/
Summary: Is there a .GIF file viewer for SUN?
Keywords: GIF View Sun
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 00:07:07 GMT


Could anyone tell me if there is a GIF or JPEG viewer for Sun Sparcstations?


Thanks!

adam@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: rroman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Randall Roman)
Subject: Key Shortcuts in OpenWindows?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:59:48 GMT

Is there a way to set up key shortcuts for menu choices in Openwindows?
For example, press F1 and get a shelltool, F2 and get the mailtool, etc?
And while I'm at it, how about with twm?

--
Randy Roman
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From: jc@raven.bu.edu (James F. Cameron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Best and Easiest way for mac to send to SparcPrinter
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:13:02 GMT
Organization: What do you mean 'That *can't* be done????'


System:  SunOS 4.1.1  NewsPrint 2.0

Problem: What is the best way for the Mac to send to the SparcPrinter.
         I am looking for both PD and commercial applications.  Since
         I am not a Mac administrator, ease of installation on the Mac
         side is definately a factor.  

Thanks for any and all help!

James
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: tdphette@mke.ab.com (Thad Phetteplace x4461)
Subject: Re: Auto screen lock for OpenWin
Organization: Allen-Bradley Co.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:15:39 GMT

OOPS! Those of you who have already downloaded the Xlockup.tar.Z file may
want to check that you have the most recent version.  I copied the finished
product into the /software directory of the anonymous ftp account on
tinman.mke.ab.com but forgot to compress it.  The compressed file that was
in there was slightly older.  The only difference in the older version is
that the startup file was called .Xlockup instead of .Xlockuprc.  I changed
the name of the file because its similarity to the name of the executable
was a source of some confusion.  Sorry for the mix up.  The version on
tinman is now the correct one.

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Email: tdphette@mke.ab.com

The opinions expressed here are entirely my own and not that of my employer...
I am not a slob, I am simply doing an experiment in domestic entropy!

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From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Re: SUN4 - SUN3
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:47:23 GMT
Organization: cic

lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph) writes:

>The maximum value for ARRAYSIZE that worked was 8383328. Note that this
>is 8*1024*1024 - 5280. 

It has been pointed out to me that I made a small mistake:

There is a resource limit for the stack size that defaults
to 8 MB:

alanya:~ 1-> limit
cputime         unlimited
filesize        unlimited
datasize        524280 kbytes
stacksize       8192 kbytes
coredumpsize    unlimited
memoryuse       unlimited
descriptors     64 

The maximum stacksize I got was 393216 kbytes. I suppose this
is limited to 1 GB - datasize - kernelsize, as the kernel
is mapped into the process' address space.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: per@erix.ericsson.se (Per Hedeland)
Subject: Re: SUN4 - SUN3
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:10:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.233319.4546@ukw.uucp>, lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph) writes:
|> >In article <1992Sep28.132937.22618@dcc.uchile.cl> ncristi@dcc.uchile.cl (Nelson Cristi Zayas) writes:
|> ><
|> ><      I get a C program, it runs on a SUN3 but not on a SUN4.
...
|> A short comparison of 680x0 vs. SPARC:
|> 
|> Category	680x0		SPARC
|> 
|> Byte ordering	Big endian	Big endian
|> Adressing	byte aligned	size aligned
|> Efficient addr	word aligned	size aligned

Of course, although this was what the original poster asked for, none of
it should matter if the program is recompiled *and* doesn't do ugly
things like dump/load chunks of data to/from a file while expecting the
same file to work for both architectures.

The thing I've most often been bitten by when trying to use
non-SPARC-aware code on SPARCs is the fact that the old trick of writing
variable-argument functions by just declaring more arguments than you'll
ever use doesn't work - it is necessary (and good practice in any case
of course) to use varargs(3), or the ANSI C equivalent if you use such a
compiler.

--Per Hedeland
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: g9129499@cc.uow.edu.au (Jeremy Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Graphical News Reader for OpenWindows?
Keywords: OpenWindows,read news
Reply-To: jeremy@snrc.uow.edu.au
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 03:56:58 GMT

gthiruva@ih-nxt09.cso.uiuc.edu (George Thiruvathukal) writes:

>Are there any graphical interfaces to read news on a Sun SparcStation 
>running OpenWindows 3.0?

>Please reply to gkt@iitmax.iit.edu. A summary will be posted, assuming 
>there is a response.

There is an Xview-based newsreader called xvnews, available from
export.lcs.mit.edu. It will access either a NNTP server or a news
directory hierachy. It looks nice, and seems stable.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: kobet@picker.com (Harry Kobetitsch)
Subject: Motif Porting
Organization: Picker International, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:58:18 GMT

I am trying to build the source code of Motif 1.1
on the SPARCstation IPX. It seems like the libraries were
built properly and the clients also. But when building
the test suite and the demos I get link errors that
there are undefined symbols (XtInherit, XtToolkitInitialize).
Can anyone tell me where these exist on the Sun or what I need

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From: jtien@venice.eng.uci.edu (Joe Tien)
Subject: Sparc Tool question
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Reply-To: jtien@venice.eng.uci.edu (Joe Tien)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 3 Oct 92 02:58:39 GMT

Hello,

I'm using the shade/cachesim5 and shadow/cachesim5 of the Sparc Performance
Analysis Tools as cache simulator. The problem is that the documentation
for these tools are very inadequate. Does anyone have any experience using
these tools? I'm mainly trying to understand the overall "organization"
of these tools, what exactly is done and how are different parameters 
determined (such as the random replacement policy used, etc.)

Email or post, your choice.

Thanks very much,

Joe Tien
jtien@balboa.eng.uci.edu
From: dhughes@bnr.ca (David Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: AnswerBook: strange file sizes
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:24:47 GMT
Reply-To: dhughes@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Japan

With regards to my previous post I should make it clear that the directory,
and the file sizes given pertain to the hard disk not the cdrom.  Since
as I chose not to install only the index files on to the hard disk I can't
understand where all these large files came from.

Thanks for any help.

David.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: bcotton@sergei.MITRE.org (Robert T. Cotton)
Subject: C++ 3.0 from Sun
Organization: MITRE Corp. McLean Va.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:14:28 GMT

Hello all,

Does anyone know the status of sun upgrading the version of cfront to
3.0? I am looking to use templates and exceptions.  

Thanks for your time,
Bob Cotton
From: net@cs.tu-berlin.de (Oliver Laumann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Problem with acc 1.0 (SunOS 4.1.2)
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:58:51 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Berlin, Germany

When I compile the program

    #include <stdio.h>

    int main(void) {
	fflush(stdout);
	return 0;
    }

with Sun's ANSI-C-compiler and supply the option -Bstatic to produce
a statically linked a.out, I get the error message

    ld: /lib/libc.a(flsbuf.o): _fflush: multiply defined

Is this a known problem with acc, or is there something wrong with
the way we installed acc?  Linking with /bin/cc is not an alternative,
as I need the atexit() library function.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: shenai@aprax.eng.uab.edu (Aravind K. Shenai)
Subject: Hard Disk Crash
Originator: shenai@aprax.eng.uab.edu
Reply-To: shenai@amnese.eng.uab.edu
Organization: Biomedical Engg, University of Alabama at Birmingham
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:27:32 GMT

Hi
	My external disk, which was working fine, does not respond any more. 
When I boot the m/c and fsck goes to check the filesystem, it quits
with the following ERROR msg:

can't open /dev/rsd3a 
(null): CAN'T CHECK FILESYSTEM
(null): UNEXPECTED INCONSISTENCY; RUN fsck MANUALLY

When I run fsck manually on that filesystem, it gives the error msg.

can't stat /dev/rsd3a

And if I run fsck on the entire system, fsck gives  can't open ...
error msgs for all the filesystems on the disk (Acropolis ASI-3S-1045). 

I have some important data sitting in that disk that I need to retrieve. 

This happened after I had done a total system shutdown and I had done it in
the proper way, i.e sync halt & so on... 
I checked for any write protection mech. There is no such feature. 

The workstation i had this connected is a SPARCstation IPC. 

What went wrong? And also, is there a way I can retrieve that data?
This is my first disk prob. so any help/pointers will be highly
appreciated!!
Thanks

Aravind

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.sun.admin,ch.sun-managers
From: osicki@hasler.ascom.ch (Chris Osicki)
Subject: Scanner and OCR wanted 
Followup-To: osicki@hasler.ascom.ch
Originator: osicki@polaris
Keywords: scanner, OCR, Full Text Retrival Systems
Reply-To: osicki@hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:51:27 GMT


Hi netters,

We are interested in obtaining a scanner + OCR S/W which works with
Sun workstations (SPARC) and SunOs. We are also interested in Full
Text Retrival Systems. If anyone has any information on products that
are available in these areas then please reply to me by email and I
will summarise.

Many thanks in advance,

Chris

   Chris Osicki ( osicki@hasler.ascom.ch )
   System and Network Administrator
   Ascom Hasler AG, Abt 85L2, Freiburgstr. 251,
   CH 3000 Bern 18, Switzerland.  Tel: +41 31 999 38 07, Fax: +41 31 991 37 35


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From: rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.novell
Subject: Novell Client under SunPC/SoftPC?
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:34:51 GMT
Organization: San Jose State University - Math/CS Dept.

Is it possible for a user on a SPARC running either SunPC or
SoftPC to login to a Novell network as a Netware client?  Anybody
done this?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: weeks@astroatc.uucp (Pat Weeks)
Subject: Playing Real CD's...
Organization: Astronautics Technology Cntr, Madison, WI
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:48:10 GMT


Thanks for the responses all,  B  U  T...   I have found the cdplayer program.
It works fine, but I do, of course, want the best, and alt.sources is
not available here..:( ...,SO if someone could mail it to me, or perhaps post
(god forbid) it here, I would appreciate it.  Alternately, a notation of an
FTP site for workman, and/OR the x_cdplayer script would be ULTIMATELY
appreciated!

Thanks again!!


					Ghostwheel
From: feldy@isi.edu (Bob Felderman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Good wysiwyg page layout/draw programs for sun and sparc?
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:53:02 GMT
Reply-To: feldy@ISI.EDU (Bob Felderman)
Distribution: world
Organization: Information Sciences Institute

Any good suggestions for wysiwyg editors/drawing packages similar
to Word or Pagemaker etc.

I'm used to macs and the stuff on the sun that I've seen (Framemaker)
is really awful.

Thanks,
Bob Felderman
USC/Information Sciences Institute
4676 Admiralty Way
Marina del Rey, CA 90292-6695
(310) 822-1511 x222
(310) 823-6714 (fax)

feldy@isi.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: wiesel@ipf.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de (Joachim Wiesel Ext. 2316)
Subject: Word Perfect 5.1 experience ?
Reply-To: wiesel@ipf.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: IPF, University of Karlsruhe
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:34:52 GMT

After having seen a demo of WP 5.1 running under OW3 I was very impressed
by it's features, but demos are demos ...
So, is there any experience with WP5.1 on SparcStations? Pros and cons?
What about cross platform compatibility, especially with the MS-Windows version?
Network printing  to PostScript printers? Sharing of files via PC-NFS (PC-TCP Plus)?
Any hints apprciated.

Joachim

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From: alan@frey.newcastle.edu.au (Alan Hargreaves)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Word Perfect 5.1 experience ?
Date: 1 Oct 1992 16:19:47 +1000
Organization: Maths Department, University of Newcastle, Oz.
NNTP-Posting-Host: frey.newcastle.edu.au

wiesel@ipf.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de (Joachim Wiesel Ext. 2316) writes:

>After having seen a demo of WP 5.1 running under OW3 I was very impressed
>by it's features, but demos are demos ...

Well we just spent a couple of days TRYING to get the demo to work with
X-Terminals, with no success, except with the character based
version. The problem we had was that xwp kept crashing in
XSetFontPath. This is strange, as the fonts it needed were already
there. Not much help was forthcoming, so the WP5.1 demo went ahead
without demonstrating it running under UNIX on X-Terminals.

alan.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.sys.sun.admin
From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: RDist to PC's?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:46:24 GMT

parson@coulomb.pcc.oz.au (Brenda Parsons - x2403) writes:
"We are looking for a method to propagate new versions of
"in-house software which is designed to run on both the UNIX platforms
"and the DOS platform.
"
"The source will be stored on the UNIX side, and when changes to the
"source is made, we would like to be able to automatically install the
"new release across the platforms.
"
"This would entail compiling and installing on UNIX as well as transferring
"the source to the PC's and compiling and installing there.
"
"Does anyone have any experience in this type of activity?
"Or any suggestions as to how to achieve this?
"Are there any packages on the market which will do the job, either
"freeware or licensed?

i would like to know also.

we have a similar problem.  so far, i have not found a unix-style make
that runs on dos, so my current thinking involves pc-nfs and pc r-cmds
(both from ftp software) and custom makerules to do everything from
the unix side.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: flog@open.ch (Florian Gutzwiller)
Subject: Binder unreliable ?
Reply-To: flog@open.ch
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:41:51 GMT

We have problems with the OpenWindows Binder programm. Most of the times it  
does not accept the changes I make. Saving changes to the network is nearly  
impossible. Binder also happens to core dump from time to time. Any hard core  
Binder user out there?

-Florian


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: ty@desktalk.com (Tyson M. Kostan)
Subject: Re: GIF Viewer for Sun/
Reply-To: ty@desktalk.com
Organization: Desktalk Systems Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:43:50 GMT

adam.curtin.edu.au writes:

>>Could anyone tell me if there is a GIF or JPEG viewer for Sun Sparcstations?
>>Thanks!
>>adam@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au

rodney@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au replys:

>You could try one of xgif, xloadimage and xv which can all view GIF (and a
>number of other image types).

I wonder where one can get xgif, xloadimage and xv?  I use IslandPaint, but
would like to see the PD stuff, as well.  Are any of these OpenLook-ized?

		      						Ty...