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From: burkert1@platon.fmi.uni-passau.de (Klaus Burkert)
Subject: Re: where is 1024*768?
Organization: University of Passau, W-Germany
Distribution: comp,amix
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:54:43 GMT

In article <296@mbunix.adsp.sub.org> mario@mbunix.adsp.sub.org (Mario Bayer, ECA008) writes:
>>X-Pert just announced their VGA-like Graphics Card for Amigas with >68020.
>>It contain's an ET 4000, will be programmable and have Workbench support.
>>(I think 68020 is needed for it?)
>
>Anyone how knows why >020 only... (I think the Workbench Screen kludge need it)

Mainly speed as there's no blitter available, I'm not sure if there are
instructions from '020 and up are needed/used.

[...]
>This sounds very good... but... is the Graphic-Board supported under AmigaUNIX
>too... (does X-Pert make a driver under AmigaUNIX)

There's a Xserver in the make (at least we're trying to) but distribution is
not cleared yet as this driver is not made by a XPert-employee.

>& X-Pert makes the famous Visiona too... but is there a driver for AmigaUNIX or
>a ported Xserver! 
>
>& speed... how fast is the Visiona... (under AmigaUNIX?)... anybody know this?

I don't know, I can't speak for the Visiona as this is not my child...

Ciao, Klaus.

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From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 04:14:48 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.163011.16888@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn) writes:
>>
>>Question for OS/2 experts:  Is it possible to set up a "virtual workspace",
>>larger than the screen, that automatically scrolls (smoothly) as the mouse is
>>dragged past the edge of the screen in OS/2?
>>
>
>This would require a special display driver.  I haven't seen one like it for
>OS/2.  However, I do just that with X11 under UNIX SVR4.  The PC version
>of X11 has this feature, and it even lets you switch resolutions on the
>fly -- kind of like a built-in zooming feature.  So for example, you could
>have a virtual workspace of 1152x900 with 256 colors (that's about the limit
>with 1MB video RAM), and display it using 640x480, 800x600, or 1024x768
>resolutions, switchable via the keyboard.

That's nice, but it's understandable that you'd need that on a PC X server.
SVGA may give great resolution, but the common 14" monitors don't.  I set up a
new Tektronix X terminal yesterday - there's no comparison at all with typical
PC displays - of course, it costs a bit more, too!  So, to be able to use
software designed for a megapixel display on a PC, you certainly would need to
be able to zoom in and scroll around to see the details.

What X11 server are you using on the PC?  We're looking getting into that - it
would be ok for casual users who don't need a dedicated terminal.  I'd prefer a
server that runs under Windows so that I could have multiple X sessions along
side DOS and Windows apps.  Such an environment would make the PCs almost
reasonable!   :-)

Any answers are probably best mailed to me - it's not exactly an Amiga topic...

>>Can a shell window be wider than
>>the screen, allowing the user to scroll sidewise to see wide file listing or
>>whatever, as needed?
>>
>
>Yes; this is what scrollbars are for.

I know - my question was: does OS/2 have them in shell windows, as an option
at least?


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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Perot ?
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:40:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.154659.12554@ctr.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.025921.11729@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>
>>No, Congress spends the money.  Congress alone spends money.  The Pentagon
>>tells what it needs, and waits to see what weapons program is made
>>in what Congressman's district.
>>
>	That is not correct. Only Congress can allocate money.
>The President, being in the Executive branch, actually spends the
>money. So even if Congress allocates 10 million to some program,
>the president can decide not to spend it, or to under spend it.
>This is why the President still has a lot of power.

This is news to me, Ethan.  Don't you think you'd hear from screaming Democrats
about how George Bush decided to cut out some of their social programs if he
could do this?  I don't think so.  I think the Congress allocates the money to
be spent, and the President has to either spend it all (signing the budget),
or none of it (veto the budget).  Ethan, how else do you think the Congress
is able to hold the budget hostage every year??

>	-- Ethan
>
>
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From: mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:31:07 GMT

In <1992Aug22.154056.2117@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>I know the above is a bit lengthy, but you DID ask for specifics. :)

Well, I can't see much differences. Ever used Fountain to install a
CG font ?

Start Fountain. On the left side you see an empty field "Source Typefaces",
enter a path to a directory where you have the fonts (downloaded or on
disk) or click on the disk gadget to select a path from the file requester.
The empty field will fill up with all the font names found. Select a couple,
click on Install.. eh. voila.
The path to the font directories (you can have multiple) is set with the
FONTS: assign at system startup or can be changed later from the shell.
But Fountain allows to select arbitrary destination directories.

For selection of system fonts start the Font preferences and choose the
fonts you want the GUI to use. The font requester (available to all
programs, but older 1.3 programs have no idea of it) will give you a
list of fonts and it also shows you a couple of glyphs.

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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Death Becomes Amiga!!
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:32:20 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
: This doesn't make sense. There is no reason at all why the Amiga should not
: have a proper equation editor. AmigaTeX is great, but as the orginal
: message indicated, TeX is hardly for everyone. And please note Dave Haynie,
: that a very good equation editor exists on my GS ( which people here seem 
: to love to denigrate without knowing the least bit about it).

That's not true, I used to sell Apples.  Macs & GS's.  I don't say
anything about them... well...  Because I don't want to belittle those
who already bought them any more than has already been done.  :)

Seriously, he wasn't speaking of the GS in particular, more of the
65c816.  And I totally agree with his views of that chip.

Greg

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From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon 030 specs released!  No more rumor...
Date: 14 Aug 92 06:50:08 GMT
Organization: gators 'r us
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In article <BsxLw3.6zC@chinet.chi.il.us> saj@chinet.chi.il.us
(Stephen Jacobs) writes:
> All-in-all, a nice machine, that'll be able to run lots of existing 
> software better than existing hardware, and that opens some new possibil-
> ities for home software (yeah, that DSP and its DMA channel.....).

it also adds some interesting possibilities for Ham radio sw.  there is a 
big bunch of activity around DSP munching of signals and computer controled
radios.

I wonder if atari would consider a "loyalty pays" program similar to the
one telebit runs every couple of years.  they could do something like trade 
in your old machine and get a new falcon for 300$ off.  nah.  I'm just 
dreaming.


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Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Discount Supermachine  Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: ICOM, Inc., West Allis, WI
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 04:49:26 GMT
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gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
: : I understand that one doesn't do this before the whole world. I believe it's
: : called being polite, sensitive, etc...

I think he wants you to become a GIRLY-MAN!  :')

: 
: Polite, fine.  But sensitive?  Me?  Next you'll be telling me to use
: hand lotion and to keep myself prim and proper.  Then you'll be
: telling me that I should be married, I suppose...
: 
: Sensitive?  NEVER!!!!!  Men of the world, UNITE!!!!
: 
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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: 500 Pound Atari Falcon? Re: Sydnes is gone?!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 06:17:32 GMT

u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) writes:
: 	Ha ha! you sound like a worried amiga owner. - To me the falcon is
: sounding better every day! [I'm an A1000 owner "from the early days" btw].

Definitely not worried, as anyone here can tell you.  I develop
software and hardware.  Most, I keep for myself.  Some I either have
or will put out as CopyLefted, source-released.  Not worried in the
least bit.

: Look at it this way... the falcon is about 4x to 8x "bigger" [faster, screen
: modes etc..] than the old ST, and also has a higher degree of backward
: compatibility than you try and claim.  If AA was even 4x "bigger" than old

I'm not "trying to claim" anything.  I'm just interpreting what I've
seen, which isn't enough to make any kind of "truth" statement about
anything.  The scrappy little details that have been given just aren't
enough to make me do anything, quake in fear OR laugh my head off.

And it's not hard to be 4-8x "bigger" to something which was
technologically comparative to a Mac Plus.  In my humblest of
opinions, if this Falcon comes out, it will be the first Atari system
worth looking at.  And I OWNED an ST.

: amiga chipset we would be getting at least a 320x200x24 bit mode, and

(Why on earth would anyone bother?  What's the point of having 24-bits
in 320x200?  Total waste of space, in my opinion.  Sure, we'd have
some lovely games, but it's not something to revel over.)

8-bit ham is very nice.

: say 16, 8 bit sound channels or 8, 16 bit sound channels.  Instead AA is

Who's to say it doesn't?  Fact is, nobody knows anything.  Well,
that's not true.  Nobody knows anything they're going to tell you.

: little more than up to 8 bitplane mode graphics, and the same old blitter
: - except with no screen dma contention.

"little more than up to 8 bitplane mode graphics".  Notice resolutions
weren't mentioned.  You've got them ALL in 8-bit resolutions, if the
post that was posted is true.  And from there, you can use the
programmability of ECS and probably the AA to alter the resolution's
size.  Sounds worthwhile to me, at least.

And a lot of the questions I asked about the Falcon haven't been
answered, have they?

Greg

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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:30:14 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <mykes.0cnz@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:

>You want to get lied to?  Become a developer.  

Actually, I get more than I need just reading c.s.a.a.  That, and watching the
election coverage.

>In Jan., at the CES show in Las Vegas, CBM showed preliminary machines to 
>selected developers.  Not ALL developers, mind you...  

Don't believe it.  C='s not big on CES, they send very few people and it's
strictly a marketing event, not a developer event.  C= had an Amiga Developer's
conference in September of '91, open to all developers.  C='s also very 
careful to tell developers what it is they're seeing.  Sometimes they may be 
shown a system that's intended for production pretty much as it is.  That 
doesn't necessarily mean it'll hit the market exactly as shown, but it is
an honest representation of the plans at the time.  Other times they may be
shown a concept machine or other early prototype.  These are done from time
to time as a way of working on new technologies.  They are not a promise that
any or all of the technologies incorporated will be introduced, together,
separately, or ever.  There is always a clear distinction, in writing, between
the two.  99% of the developers I've run into understand this.

>CBM told EA in 1985 that the A1000 would have a price tag of $1000.
>So, EA jumps on the bandwagon and pumped big money into Amiga product and
>advertising.  Then the A1000 comes out at a price of > $2K.  

The original A1000 list price was $1495.  The street price went to around $1200
not long after the introduction of the machine.  That's a far cry from >$2K.
Sure, if you wanted to, you could spend more than $2K on add-ons, but none of
that was necessary at the time to run games or most other early programs (even
Deluxe Paint ran in 256K, though it was certainly better in 512K).

>CBM did the same thing with CDTV - promised an entry price of $700.  The 
>machine sold for > $1K and was missing features (HW compression/decompression)
>that were promised. 

CDTV's original list was under $1K.  They never promoised HW based compression
for the original system, such things were still pretty far off at the time.
JPEG hadn't even been finalized, much less MPEG.  There was no reasonable way
to do hardware compression.  Only now are good solutions coming around, and
they're not exactly cheap yet either (but they will be before too long).
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From: eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story )
Subject: Re: Arthur C. Clarke, Vistapro, and NPR
Originator: eas3714@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:27:55 GMT

In article <mykes.0c6y@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>Fewer colors or fatter pixels.

Whine, whine, whine.  What the is your problem, dude?  What do you want?
A reward?  

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Don't become like MB... I think we all know the problems with the Amiga,
useless replies like yours don't help any, they just annoy people.

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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Crime (Re: Perot ?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:04:24 GMT

eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story) writes:
: You're really bent on killing people aren't you?  

Wow.  I can't believe you said that.  My jaw hit the floor.

Nice job.  :)

Greg

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From: lawsons@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Shannon Lawson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:00:48 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

In article <3291@creatures.cs.vt.edu> lawsons@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Shannon Lawson) writes:
>
>I got my brand
>spanking new A1000 in Spring of '85.

Oops!  I meant '86.  Silly me!

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From: leekil@bbn.com (Lee Kilpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 15 Aug 92 18:33:51 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
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In article <1992Aug11.002901.22747@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>
>>Just because Marc Barrett is a certified developer, doesn't mean he is in
>>the know about Commodore, CATS and C= engineering.
>
>   I agree completely.  I do not work for Commodore, and I have never been to
>West Chester (though I have spent a substantial portion of my life in Europe).
>So I obviosly cannot know all that much about the inner workings of Commodore.
>However, would this information have ever come out if I had not posted it?  
>People may argue that I cloud true information with shady details, but people
>from Commodore are not well known for volunteering information unless it is
>really necessary.



A week or so ago, somebody at work told me that they read in the New
York Times that Commodore was going out of business or something.  I
didn't believe him, and he changed him mind to something like "maybe
Unix is dead".  Later he sent me mail that reported that CDTV was
dead, and he got this information here on the net.  But I don't know
what was in the original New York Times article (allegedly in the
business section) and haven't seen it discussed here.  Did this tell
about the people geting laid off?  Or was it something different?
Where did you get your information, Marc, was it from that article?



	Lee
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From: tron1@tronsbox.xei.com (Kenneth Jamieson)
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 05:35:46 GMT

In article <tony.713572219@ais.org> tony@ais.org (Tony Poole) writes:
>tron1@tronsbox.xei.com (Kenneth Jamieson) writes:
>
>
>>	How much effort would it have taken "folks - there has been a
>>shakeup - don't panic about it" in a usenet post and it all could have
>>been avoided.
>
>Oh, this is so stupid.  Do you honestly believe the world revolves around the
>Internet?

	See below.

>
>OK, so they announce here, in this cynic arena we call c.s.a.advocacy, that
>there has been a shakeup, and not to worry.

	So far so good - it doesn't cost anything.

>
>But wait, BIX users haven't heard, better jump on there, tell them the same.

	C= has a presence on BIX - they can ut it there for free as well.

>
>But hold the phone, CIS users haven't heard...tell them.

	Hmm.. you mean C= would have to have a 7.92$ a month CIS
account! There goes the last of the R&D budget.

>
>Ooops, wait a minute...can't forget about Genie users....whew....

	Heh.

>
>Oh Oh, what about all those Fido nodes?  Now how are we gonna do this...

	No problem - the usenet folks will put it there.

>My point is - get a grip.  One person left of his own accord, and one person
>is rumored to have been layed off.  How many people does C= employ?  You
>can't seriously expect that they keep you informed of every single personell
>shift, do you?  The world does not revolve around this newsgroup, or any of
>these newsgroups.  Hell, looking at the way some people act around here,
>this would be the LAST place I'd announce anything if I was PR at C=.
>

	Get a good tight grip yourself. It was a C= employee who
started screaming at the top of his lungs how much the MB >USENET<
post was going to hurt the Amiga. HE seems to believe that the Usenet
has some pull in the real world. So I suggested what C= could do to
prevent the thing THEY are upset about.




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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
Distribution: world
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Date: 14 Aug 92 21:52:46 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <9531@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:
> In article <1992Aug13.143604.29158@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>  >addison@pollux.usc.edu (Richard Addison) writes:
>  >>>
>  >>>Binary compatibility with DOS and Windows executables.
>  >>>
>  >>Some might consider this to be a disadvantage. :-)
>  >
>  >Nevertheless, it's a feature that is missing from AmigaDOS.
>
> So I feel free to imitate your attitude and state that it's a great
> failure and missing feature of OS/2 that it cannot run AmigaOS applications.
>

Sorry, Peter.  But OS/2 CAN run AmigaOS applications.  Only they are called
OS/2 applications.

> This is ridiculous, isn't it?
>
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