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Date: Sun,  4 Oct 1992 19:21:42 -0400 
From: "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Who's the best leader?

>1)Who is the best leader of the x-men? (Cyclops, Storm, Cable, Havok, or
>Captain Britain)
>2) Which is the best team? (Blue team, Gold team, X-Force, X-Factor,
X-Calibur)

Best leader : (you excluded Nightcrawler, by the way), however the best
leader is Storm.
Best Team:  Whatever Rogue's team is.
From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: MORE X-ECUTIONER'S SONG SPOILERS
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:43:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Sep28.144355.11961
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <80597@ut-emx.uucp> nova@sleepy.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman) writes:
>MORE SPOILERS!!!

>Theories:
[...]

>Comments:

>	Personally, I think Sinister has shape-changing abilities.  He took on
>Val's husband's aspect in X-Factor, he took the shape of the child Nathan when
>Scott was a kid, and I think he took Cable's shape in order to assassinate the
>Prof.  Why?  Because he wants the X-Men to suffer.  Remember in X-Factor #75
>when he killed Ricochet?  He said that he had big plans for the X-Men...

My idea of Mr. Sinister:  He's the most interesting villain the x-men have
gone against in quite a while.  (I rank him up there with Magneto, Nimrod,
and the Master Mold---Dr. Doom doesn't count since they never met the real
one.)
	I'm a little upset at the current storyline, though.  Back in the
good old days, the heroes (sp?) used to be able to figure out what was
going on after a little while.  Now the only way they have a clue is when a
villain tells them.  Truly the sign of bad writing. (By the good old days,
I'm refering to around when the x-men were poisoned in Japan right before
Wolverine was about to get married to Mariko.)
	I agree that Mr. Sinister is a shape-shifter.  He wouldn't try to
use something like an image inducer when he went to meet Val, since there
might be close contact between the two of them.  I don't think Mr. Sinister
had anything to do with the assasination attempt, however.  I believe that
he is another time-traveler, and that he doesn't remember Professor X ever
being shot with the technovirus.  He's therefore panicing, hoping to get
things fixed up to the way they're "supposed to be" before the timeline
diverges from his own future.  This is possible if he was told in the
future about the X-men, and that there were some holes in the stories that
he heard -- Holes big enough so that the storyteller would have forgotten
to mention an assasination attempt and a technovirus.  I predict that he
will be the one that comes up with the cure, possibly made from the
genetic material given to him by Stryfe.
	The one problem I have with Mr. Sinister's scene in X-Force (aside
from the blatent Terminator 2 rip off), is that Mr. Sinister went up
against both x-men teams at the same time without even a crease (until
cyclops shows up) but not almost has his head blown off by just a gun?  I
suppose the X-forxe readers wanted a kool fight between bishop and Mr.
Sinister, but, as Mr. S. mentioned, the fight would be too one-sided --
Bishop wouldn't stand a chance.

Karthik Sheka              | It's not an optical illusion.  It just looks like
kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |    one.
karthik@cs.columbia.edu    | By "recursion" I mean "defined by recursion".
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Rachel, Nathan etc...
From: slskq@smithfield.enet.dec.com (869883 Leep)
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:45:24 MDT
Reply-To: slskq@cc.usu.edu
Distribution: world
Organization: USU student for life

In article <1992Oct2.171113.26580@decuk.uvo.dec.com>, mobey@arrods.enet.dec.com (arrods::mobey) writes:
|>    
|>    
|>    here's a good one for you net folks to think over....
|>    
|>    Rachel wasn't an only child
|>    in an issue of one or other of the comics she has a flash
|>    "back" 
|>    she has TWO <--------
|>    brothers   twins ...
|>    and guess what
|>    their names are Christopher and Nathan
|>    
|>    I doubt this is where Cable and Stryth come from
|>    but what the heck...
|>    
|>    short of going through my collection of xbooks
|>    etc... I cant find where it was done prob U-x
|>    
|>    Gary M
|>

I don't have a number for you, but if you are checking this out it is in
"What if Professor X had become the Juggernaught?"

Randy L.
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: THE CLAREMONT FILES (Doug & Betsy)
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:59:26 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <20750@plains.NoDak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>>>   She also dreamt about Doug and her love for him in the X-Men issue where
>>>she was being taken over by the Hand. Jim Lee art.
>>>   Plus, didn't the kids
>                        [the Brat Pack]
>
>>>                           appear in the Longshot mini-series?
>>
>>Obscure Trivia Lad doesn't recall this, but he also hasn't read the
>>Longshot mini-series in a while, so that doesn't mean anything.
>
>Shame on you, Obscure Trivia Lad! The Brat Pack made their unique appearance
>in the Longshot LS, right after his run-in with Spider-Man and She-Hulk I
>believe. They were (or at least Darla was) somewhat instrumental in goading
>Longshot to defeating Gog-Magog in #5.
>
>Aside from the Annuals mentioned previously in this thread, the Brats have
>also appeared in selected Nocenti-written Daredevils.
>
>Hoping that OTL is just suffering a temporary set-back in his powers, I
>return to lurking...

That isn't a set-back in Obscure Trivia Lad's powers.  That's his
unique weakness:  the complete inability to remeber select important
facts whenever he either wants or needs to remember them.  He
can't help it, that's just the way he is.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: THE CLAREMONT FILES (Doug & Betsy)
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:01:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.20750
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>>   She also dreamt about Doug and her love for him in the X-Men issue where 
>>she was being taken over by the Hand. Jim Lee art. 
>>   Plus, didn't the kids
			[the Brat Pack]
			
>>                           appear in the Longshot mini-series?
>
>Obscure Trivia Lad doesn't recall this, but he also hasn't read the
>Longshot mini-series in a while, so that doesn't mean anything.

Shame on you, Obscure Trivia Lad! The Brat Pack made their unique appearance
in the Longshot LS, right after his run-in with Spider-Man and She-Hulk I
believe. They were (or at least Darla was) somewhat instrumental in goading
Longshot to defeating Gog-Magog in #5.

Aside from the Annuals mentioned previously in this thread, the Brats have
also appeared in selected Nocenti-written Daredevils.

Hoping that OTL is just suffering a temporary set-back in his powers, I
return to lurking...

"Why are you wearing my FACE!?" -- Mojo, in his only properly written
				    appearances, in the Longshot LS

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
For Kate is a jealous God, and requires sacrifice./What was your question?--K
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Needed:URGENT! An X-planation!  
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:29:15 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

A Question for all you Lovely XBOOKERs...

I am curious.  Why is Shatterstar letting Wolverine Sniff his
butt on the opening Title page of the latest X-force?  Is this
some sort of Warrior protocol?  I am just confused...

				wReam...
			     Ultimate Ninja!

P.S.  Really I am so serious!

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Insults on X-Men
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:31:19 GMT

In article <starman.03g0@crash.amigans.gen.nz> starman@crash.amigans.gen.nz (Robin Halligan) writes:
>Peter J. Orlando (orlando@gn.ecn.purdue.edu) wrote:
>                 
>               [lots of dribble deleted] 
>: 
>
>Marvel were time jumping years before terminator so your comment ia
>just worth CRAP .     IMHO
> 
No, his comment is just wrong, in your opinion.

>: 2.  Most of the issues all deal with tons of action, big muscles,
>: big breasts coming out at the reader.  You have to scrape
>: away at all this crap just to find the story and even then, the 
>: story is not worth it.
>
>If you can do better then you can comment but i don't see your name on
>anything importent.   IMHO
>
Again It's his opinion, Since he pays for the books, he has a right to expect
quality, and discuss it when he doesn't like it.
>:  
> 
>: bitch about stuff.  This is suppose to be an open forum
>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>: 
>: IF you you want to bitch at me...mail all bitches
>: to  orlando@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>is'nt this a contridiction of terms 1.st you say it is an opem forum
>then you say if you don't agree then don't reply here.
>

Maybe he just doesn't want to load up the net with flames like yours.

Just my IMHO, after all :-)

---SCAVENGER

-- 
KHAN: And I never forget a face.  Mr. Chekov,   |  kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
CHEKOV:  But, I wasn't in that episode!!!       | No matter where you go, there
     (from MST3K:The Wrath of Khan)             |    you are."-Buckaroo Banzai
From: jsbr+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Hamilton Slye)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Shatterstar Dead...not quite
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:21:06 GMT
	<1ad35iINNmgn@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU>
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>BTW, I haven't read an x-title for about two years, but have picked them up
>again for X-cutioner's Story.  Can somebody tell me who Shatterstar is
and what
>his mutant power is?

Hmmmm...let's see if I can recall this right...

Wasn't it hinted at in X-Men recently that Shatterstar is Longshot &
Dazzler's son? He was raised to be a gladiator in the Mojoverse but
somehow got stuck on our world. He has been running around with X-Force
since NM #99, I believe. (I never read NM so I'm not sure.)

As for mutant power...I'm not real sure...he's really good with those
two double bladed swords he has (gotta love'em), other than being a
really good fighter, I don't believe he has any special powers.

I'm probably gonna get flamed for not knowing every single power he has,
but I really don't pay that much attention to X-Force anymore.



=========================================================================
J. Hamilton Slye (jsbr@andrew.cmu.edu) 1071 Morewood Ave., Pgh, Pa. 15213

The opinions stated above do not necessarily reflect those of the author!

"Oooohhhh no! Forget that stuff!"  -  Ren Hoek, "The Ren & Stimpy Show"
=========================================================================
From: EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie Oporto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Cutioner's Song- A horrible thought
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:20:03 GMT
 <28SEP199214082973@summa.tamu.edu>
Organization: The Pennylvania State University

In article <28SEP199214082973@summa.tamu.edu>, jdb1145@summa.tamu.edu (And This
Is What the Devil Does....) says:
>
>Guys, Shatterstar is *not* dead.  You're basing his "death" on the fact that
>Wolverine stuck his claws into and through Shatterstar's gut.  This is the
>same
>Shatterstar who, in New Mutants #99, shoved HIS OWN SWORD through HIS OWN BODY
>to kill the guy holding him from behind.  I severely doubt he's dead, but I
>will bet money that he won't be running the four minute mile anytime soon.

No kiddin'.  And if you'll bother to read the followup to my own article,
you'll see I corrected myself.  I believe I was the only one who posted
thinking he was dead, and I already turned my opinion around.  Lets see
how many more people will post about this before realizing that, too.

  _____)           ______        _)       _)  EAO102@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
                               __       __    OPORTO@CORVETTE.ECE.PSU.EDU
______    ______            ___      ___      Ernie "SHOKK" Oporto
                               __       __    Computer Lab Attendant
(_______ _      _ ________ _     _) _     _)  for PSU's CAC Department
From: aodn174@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Ecutioner's Song SPOILERS!!!!!
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:50:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep25.133858.15852@husc3.harvard.edu> feland@husc9.Harvard.EDU (Andrew Feland) writes:
>>>5.  CABLE IS THE TRAITOR.
>>>	Hmm.  Then why did Jean try to call him?
>>Because Cable was diguised as Stryfe when he shot the Professor. Jean didn't
>>realize...:)
>
>What, so you're saying that Cable was disguised as Stryfe, who was disguised
>as Cable....
>
>In light of recent events, the whole plot is making very little sense.  Too
>many shapeshifters and clones running around.  Does anyone seriously think
>that all of the plotlines will be resolved?

Of course not.  This is Marvel we're talking about, after all.  (See the Death
of Jean Grey for further details...:))

__NOVA__
_______________________________________________________________________________

"Enjoy the book.  It has lots of pictures."
		--Spider-Man 2099
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From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks,rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The SMILEY Dictionary!
Date: 26 Sep 1992 12:24:15 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: gumby.cs.caltech.edu


Not to mention:

5:)      Elvis smiley
&;)      William Shatner smiley (c/o MBKomor)
8o       Casper smiley
8=X      IR$ smiley
>:=      Personal Manager smiley
^V^      Dracula smiley
^"^      ditto  ...no, wait...it's crawling across my screen..

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|   Mike Jittlov - Wizard, etc  |';* ';;'..`::::'   `:*`:;::::::
|    Hollywood, CA 90026-2714   |;.;+,  '* ```:'o   o `,  `::;::
| (213) No-Human (noon to moon) |,',.::.. .' .' |\^/|:. `*:.. `*
| jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu  |...May All Your \Y/ Good Dreams
|    <&alt.fan.mike-jittlov>    |and Fine Wishes /_\ Come True:)
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From: dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (SilverFang Ahroun)
Subject: Re: The Jamie/Siryn thing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:20:45 GMT

kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:

>But nothing happened between them there(other than joining the FA's together)
>I think his comment reflected that he and Siryn NEVER had anything but a 
>friendship together/ and possibly that he had always wanted more.  This would
>go into also explaining why she joined X-Force with no one that she was close 
>with, instead of X-Factor to be w/ Jamie (I still can't explain why not the 
>X-Men to be w/ Banshee).

Well, I haven't exactly seen Banshee in the X-Men lately. Even if he were,
it would likely be rather uncomfortable working with a relative, especially
since Banshee's powers never seem to work and Syrin's do.

A second reason could be a basic disagreement with the X-Men's 
philosophy of kiss butt and ask questions later vice X-Force's 
Kick butt and ask questions later. Heck, if I were an oppressed 
minority, the second option would sound a lot better to me.

Axly
From: v083lmh8@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Fred @ UB)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Bishop
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:07:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I just thought of something really sick.  No one knows too much abou
 Bishop, right?  What if it turns out to be that one of the X-Men happens to be
his ancestor.  Now, what if he causes that person not to have a relationship
 with the other ancestor and he can't be born (get what I'm hinting at?). 
 Then, he will not be born, and then there will start a vicious cycle of never-
ending stories of time travel twists.  Now, what if this ancestor was Storm?!?
What if he's his own great, great, great, great, great (etc) grandfather?!?
	Also, if everyone who comes back in time effects the past so that 
their present will never happen, then that means that they will never happen.
So, how can they come back in time and effect the past(present).  Thus, if they
don't come back in time to stop their present, then their present will happen
and they'll come back, stop their present and they will never happen, thus, if
they don't come back in time to stop their present, then their present will
happen and they'll come back... see what I'm getting at?  Time travelling
should've never have been invented, cross dimensional travelling is acceptable,
unless someone comes up with an argument against that.
	Just another opinion to make you go 'HHMMM'

						The Man (A Loyal Fan)

Keep the Faith readers of the 'Children of the Atom'!
					-Fred @ UB
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From: maguire@copland.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire)
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of Fabian Nicieza
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.xbooks,rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:08:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.185043.8184@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>,
klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein) wrote:
> 
> In article <20823@plains.NoDak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
> >In article <1abgn4INN2dc@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu> lazarus@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu writes:
> >>Okay... now say Sienkiewicz!  >:)
> >
> >Shen-kah-witz
> 
> Sin-KEV-ich
> 

"... he pronounces strongly with his mighty Roach-lungs, letting the 
uninformed know the proper pronounciation of the mighty Roach-artist".
	   "Thank you, Kevitch."

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Maguire                         No, not THAT Kevin Maguire
maguire@copland.jpl.nasa.gov          I'm a rocket scientist, not an artist
From: bd112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig H. Rettig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Most violent mutant
Date: 28 Sep 1992 14:31:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Actually, I'd say Sabretooth, because he's that way because he
ENJOYS it.

-- 
"I have come to the realization that I have been the chosen one
to receive the sacred gift to detect potato salad in any form.  I
can be a great access to any team. 'Hey guys!  That demon is NOT
made of potato salad!'" Potato Salad Man a.k.a. Me
From: boehmer9694@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Magik (Re: post)
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:11:07 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa


>MY theory worked like this:  Magik/Darkchilde was the Illyana that came
>from the timeline that the doomed X-Men and Storm came from... Illyana
>(the younger version) is the SAME one that Kitty lost in the first place.
>She still has the mutant capabilities, but has yet to become corrupted, 
>and hopefully won't...
>
>--
>Bart -Laz- Smith
>Kansas State University
>'Cats - 35, Temple - 14... a MUCH more satisfying win!  :)
>"Think about it... after you spend a day in a society whose prevailing
>	philosophy is 'Why make small problems when you can create a holocaust,'
>	then you must navigate your way home with a society who maintains the
>	same philosophy in their driving..." 
>				-- "Frank's Chair" -- 2nu -- Ponderous

Then how do you explain the amulet?
 (by the way, I have both heard and created multiple workable theorys. I posted
my personal favorite but would love to hear others!)
                                      " Be what you are. "
                                          R.J. Boehmer
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: What is IMHO?
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:53:45 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep25.124220.14144@abo.fi> MHANNINEN@finabo.abo.fi (Mika H{nninen Inf) writes:
>In <1992Sep24.211344.16522@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu writes:
>
>> In article <1992Sep24.133940.59148@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>> >Oh and BBB mean BORED BEYOND BELIEF!!!
>> 
>> *Sigh*  Not again.  BBB means BloodBloodBlood, one of my favorite
>> comics (besides Suicide Squid and Swap Thing).  Now if I could
>> only find cover variation #42 of BBB#2...
>
>I've got it.Bagged.Backed.MINT!. I'll trade it for Suicide Squid #1
>(With the "If Seaweed Be My Destiny..." cover) and Swap Thing #3 ("All new
> *collectible* origin issue)...

For my two comics, do I get two copies of BBB#2?  I need one for the
coupon, and the other to save so I can sell it in mint condition
later.  If not, I would be willing to send you two copies of
SS#1 and ST#3 each, although then I'd only have 173 of each in my
collection.  I'll try to live with it, though.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Shatterstar Dead....Muhahahahaha
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:39:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.21008
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>X-Force was running like a well-oiled
>machine, now it runs like a broken down lawnmower.

Well, if the original machine was a well-oiled brickpile, yeah, I guess
it ran well.

>*sigh* I guess making it a requirement that all Marvel writers
>must play Champions is out of the question?

What does playing an overly-detailed RPG have to do with writing decent
plots, dialogue, or scenes? If anything, the speed of Champs combat would
slow down X-Men fights to match their plot tempo! Gah!

Gah!
-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
From: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Subject: Re: MORE X-ECUTIONER'S SONG SPOILERS
Reply-To: kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Karthik P Sheka)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:37:09 GMT

In article <20755@plains.NoDak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>>My idea of Mr. Sinister:  He's the most interesting villain the x-men have
>>gone against in quite a while.  (I rank him up there with Magneto, Nimrod,
>>and the Master Mold---Dr. Doom doesn't count since they never met the real
>>one.)
>
>This comes as a surprise to this Doom fan, considering his appearance in
>the semi-blah X-Men vs. Fantastic Four LS.

I believe that was retconned into a DoomBot by FF#352. (Which stated that
Doom hasn't been keeping in touch much since the battle for the baxter
building, circa FF#50.  Definitely not the same Doom that knew about
Kitty's phasing problem.)

(The other times the x-men fought "Doom" was in X-Men #145 and circa 195,
and both were obviously DoomBots)

Karthik Sheka              | It's not an optical illusion.  It just looks like
kps@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu |    one.
karthik@cs.columbia.edu    | By "recursion" I mean "defined by recursion".