HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (R. Shirdi Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MOLCOM X, A TRUE REVOLUTIONIST.
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:21:19 GMT
Reply-To: /dev/null
Followup-To: alt.test
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.140.191

In article <1443@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>Hay guys/gals, the movie "Molcom X" is getting released
>tomorrow, and my suggestion to all is to take a 

	No offense, but what about "Molcom" parts I thru IX ??

	Prem!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sri@b30.ingr.com (Srinivas Bhooshanan)
Subject: LOOKING FOR DR. GOPA KUMAR - HOT SPRINGS, ARKANSAS
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:58:21 GMT

Hi everyone:

	I would appreciate any information on how to contact Dr. Gopa Kumar
	of Hot Springs, Arkansas. Directory assistance had nothing on him. The
	only other info. I have is that he is an endochrinologist (?) in Hot 
	Springs.

	Please email or call.

	TIA
	
-- 
________________________________ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __ __
Srinivas Bhooshanan	     |__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__|__| 
sri@c9910.b30.ingr.com       _There's no sensation to compare with this_
(205) 730-3362(W) 	     |__Suspended animation - state of bliss!_|_
From: na@abb-sc.abb-sc.com (Aru Arunasalam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ** 220V/50Hz -> 110V/60Hz Info ? **
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:08:25 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ABB Systems Control Company, Inc.


In article <17971@autodesk.COM>, vittal@Autodesk.COM (Vittalbabu Srinivasan) writes...
> 
>Fellow netters,
> 
>A friend of mine is relocating to India. He is carrying a
>lot of 110V/60Hz US appliances like (1) 1000W Microwave oven
>(2) 2in1 (3) CD player (4) Blender/Mixer (5) Telephone (6) Lamps.
> 
>Can any of you suggest how these appliances would work in India ?
> 
>KNOW IF anybody here in the US of India sell frequency converters
>that step up from India's 50Hz to 60Hz ? How much do they cost ?
> 

Frequency converters do exist - but are expensive.

The back panel of most appliances contains a name plate which will indicate
whether or not the appliance is rated 50/60 Hz.  The different frequency
can cause three problems that I know of: 

1. The appliances sometimes use the incoming signal frequency
for timing purposes...a different frequency will throw the timing off.
You may see this problem in clocks and turntables.

2. Some appliances have a transformer inside them to step down the voltage
to very low values like 12, 9, and 6 volts. This transformer is sometimes 
designed for a specific frequency.  60Hz transformers are slightly smaller 
than 50Hz transformers. The reason for this has to do with magnetic 
saturation... Because of this, the  60Hz transformer will tend to run very 
hot and eventually fail when used with a 50Hz input voltage.  

Typically smaller appliances tend to support both 50/60Hz.

Appliances that use large electric motors (Washing Machines etc) tend have
motors designed for a specific frequency. Appliances such as blenders have
motors that will survive the frequency switch. To be sure, however, check 
the name plate rating on the appliance.

3. The third problem related to frequency is that devices such as telephones
may have filters designed to cancel interference from a specific frequency.
So US telephones may have a filter to cancel 60Hz interference whereas the
Indian counterpart will have a 50Hz filter. This problem is not as severe
as the others, i.e, the device won't fail.

Generally speaking, it is not worth stepping down voltages and adjusting
frequencies if your friend plans to use these appliances for an extended 
period.

Aru/                                  na@abb-sc.com
From: sarathy@smsun0.crd.ge.com (Partha  Sarathy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: KEANE Inc., Boston, - Info needed urgently !!!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:57:24 GMT
Reply-To: sarathy@smsun0.crd.ge.com (Partha  Sarathy)
Organization: General Electric Corp. R&D, Schenectady, NY


KEANE Inc., Boston - info needed urgently  !!!
----------------------------------------------

Dear fellow netters :

    Do any of you out there who work /have worked for the above 
    company know whether they sponsor people for the GC / PR ?

    a) If so what are their terms - paid for or pay on your own ?

    b) Do they have their own immigration lawyers ?
   
    c) Also are they prompt/timely in filing appropriate forms with INS
       or is it a struggle  with the Human Resource people ?

    Please reply to me at the following address :
        sarathy@crd.ge.com 

    Your input will be very greatly appreciated.

    Thanks once again
                                ParthaSarathy
                                Off : 518.387.7708
                                Res : 518.370.8634
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand)
Subject: NOTHING IN PARTICULAR #3
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:16:22 GMT


hi,
	He went in and came out so fast that he almost banged into himself
	going in.

J Anand.

-- 
!!!!!!!!!%-----+++++=====/**##!!!!!!!!!!!!!/**##=====+++++-----%!!!!!!!!
When you don't know what to do, walk fast and look worried.
!!!!!!!!!%-----+++++=====/**##!!!!!!!!!!!!/**##=====+++++-----%!!!!!!!!!
From: komandur@.cs.pitt.edu.cs.pitt.edu (Sridhar Komandur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Roommate wanted. Pittsburgh
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:38:56 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Hi

We are looking for a roommate beginning next semester(spring 93). 
3 guys will be sharing 2 bed.

Our Apt is about 15min walk from both Univ of Pittsburgh and CMU.

- Sridhar Komandur

phone: (412) 621 0825 or (412) 624 8842
email: komandur@cs.pitt.edu

You can also talk to my roommate Sunondo.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nbindal@hfglobe.intel.com (Niraj Bindal)
Subject: MULTIPLE ENTRY H-1 VISA
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:22:03 GMT


Has anybody got a multiple entry H-1 visa from Calcutta or other places in 
India ? 

In case one is refused multiple entry visa in India can one fly to Canada on a
visitor's visa and then come over to U.S.?  What are the implications of this in
the green card process.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Subject: Re: INDIAN CULTURE - Subservient
Summary: Indian Culture - Subservient
Keywords: Indian culture -subservient
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 01:07:19 GMT

Rohit Parikh writes:

 
>It is true that ours is a great culture - or more precisely, our
>culture has a great past.  It is also true that we have fallen
>on bad days and instead of building on our past, we try to
>choose between mindlessly obeying our ancestors and mindlessly
>obeying the Westerners.  Perhaps this is a consequence of a 700
>year rule by a Muslim minority, followed by two hundred years
>of British rule.  But some signs of decay are visible already
>in India after the death of Harsha-Vardhan and that cannot be
>explained through foreign invasion. 

One of the fundamental problems with our culture was/is the
subservient attitudes it introduces in people. It is easy to
conquer a country - a totally different matter to rule it. It is
when the culture within the country promotes subservience that
'rule over the masses' becomes easy.

How did the British subjugate the masses for centuries? Were they
truly 'benevolent' and 'equal' and 'just' rulers? - No. 

So why did the masses accept them? Only reason was/is the
subservience promoted by our culture. Our cultural heritage of
the past 1000 years stinks. Why are we so afraid to say it? 
Is it because many of us believe that all we have today to
convince our AFFLUENT neighbours is our 'culture'? (The usual
argument of how the U.S. does not have a 'culture').

Is it to promote pride in our community? Is it to show our self
worth? Does the Indian culture of today justify such pride? 

If it is pride and the need to 'prove' that we are as 'equal' as
others, should we be ashmed of our poverty? Couldn't our
achievements of the recent past and the success of the Indian
community abroad give us pride? Why do we keep resorting to
culture to prove we are 'equal' or 'better'? Why do we keep
taking this trip into 'culture land' to prove our self worth?

>Let us reject what is destructive in our past and what is
>destructive in the West.  And we can recover once more the great
>creativity of the Indian mind. 

I certainly hope so. And while I am at it - I must also voice my
opinion about how some o/seas Indians treat fellow Indians when
they get back home. There is always this misguided 'air of
superiority'. 

When will we learn about our foolish prejudices?
 
John Ainikkal
I think - Therefore I am.
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud

"And U run and U run to catch up with the sun but its sinking,
Racing aroung to come up behind U again,
The sun is the same in a relative way but your older,
Shorter of breath - One day closer to death"
                                         Pink Floyd
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bond@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Girish)
Subject: Re: Reservations-Governmental Intervention Necessary.
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:46:04 GMT

In article <1ehtg5INNdob@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu) writes:
>>[.....]
>>As for the promotions ruling etc..., I am wainting for IT for a more
>>indepth report, before I express my comments...
>
>Well we have to wait for either the Central Government to present a Bill
>in Parliament to modify the ruling of the Supreme Court, or be prepared,
>for another round of agitations in India. Probably,  it would be prudent 
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>for the GOI, to enact a law due to which the economically deprived class
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>which really needs the benefit of reservations.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Regards,
>Vivek.

     The GOI had recommended 10 % reservations for economically deprived
people. But the Supreme Court turned it down saying that the Constitution
doesn't allow any quota based on economic criteria.

And I don't think the GOI will present a Bill in Parliament to modify the
Supreme Court ruling. This is not something like Shahabano case :-) 
Moreover, the Congress is more concerned about their vote bank than
anything else (with possibility of another mid-term elections and no
issues at hand).

-- Girish.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sodhi@news.miami.edu (Rajpal Sodhi)
Subject: Re: re:Khalistan
Organization: University of Miami, RSMAS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:18:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.161411.21634@alf.uib.no> sahni@ii.uib.no (Sahni Daljeet Singh) writes:
>am a SIKH and an Indian. I was in Delhi during '84 riots. I lost a few
>relatives of mine in those riots. But none of my realtives and the mjority
>of the Sikhs wanted or want Khalistan. I do not know where you get your facts

daljeet, what would it take for you to want khalistan? ( note that no
sarcasm is intended here.) you do agree that your relatives have been
killed in the '84 massacre ( they were not riots in any sense of the
word) and i presume you hold the GOI responsible for acts of commission
and omission in this regard. why then, are you against the sikhs having
political autonomy? (obviously they do not have any political power now,
for if they had, the terrorists of 84 wouldn't have gone unpunished so
long, let alone hold cabinet posts.)

>Sikhs have generaly been against muslims. Our whole history is full of our
>Gurus fighting against the muslim rulers. How can you even think that the muslims
>who support you now will continue to do so in the future. Let me make it
>clear to my muslim friends that I am not an anti muslims. I am just stating facts.

i think you should get your facts correct before you post them. the
sikhs have not been "generally against muslims". history shows that the
sikhs have always been against oppression, whether it came from the
moghul rulers of the day or from the trecherous hindu rajahs of north
india at the time. i personally find your statement
that sikhs were generally against muslims preposterous as i would a
similar statement regarding hindus or anybody else.

>
>--Sahni Daljeet Singh
>
>email: sahni@eik.ii.uib.no

--rajpal

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Subject: Re: HOW WE TIP IN RESTAURANTS
Reply-To: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:13:40 GMT

gupta@cse.uta.edu (Arun Gupta) writes:

)However the difference is that one pays the bribe before the job and one tips
)after the service (the server is not sure if the bribe will be offered after
)the service is performed).

Yes. I agree. But when tipping sometimes you are bribing for the next 
person in the queue. When the bribing chain is broken too many
times... I hope you get the idea.

Sridhar.
--
Sridhar Venkataraman			sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: cscullion@trentu.ca (Chris D. Scullion)
Subject: Info Request: NIRD email address
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Trent University Computer Services Department
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:03:00 GMT


Greetings....

Subject says it all.  Is the National Institute for Rural Development in 
Hyderabad hooked up to the internet?  If you have any infornation which 
could aid me in my search, please reply to the address below.

Thanks in advance!!

				chris scullion
				cscullion@trentu.ca

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Subject: Re: Khalistan
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:32:13 GMT

In article <iFsguB5w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> garyd@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Gary Deol) writes:

>What bothers me
>is that HUNDREDS of thousands of Sikhs have died (many of them 
>innocent to) and I have never heard a Hindu in India say anything 
>about them, then why should I grieve for your dead? 

Come on! You can't be serious! HUNDREDS of thousands???? 
> 

Rakesh Patel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aa@iti.org (Aayush Asthana)
Subject: CULTURE  (WAS: Newsgroup monopolized by riffraff?)
Keywords: Culture 
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:42:55 GMT

Perhaps a look at the word `culture' might be instructive here,
in understanding how some of the more abusive posts (not political,
not genuine viewpoint, but repetitive vitriolic posts and name-calling
content) violate the `culture' charter of soc.culture.indian:

{from the American Heritage Dictionary}

Culture n.

1.
The totality of socially transmitted behavior behavior patterns,
arts, beliefs, institutions of human work and thought characteristic
of a community or population.

2.
A style of social and artistic expression peculiar to a society or
class.

3.
Intellectual and artistic activity, and the works produced by it.

4.
The act of developing the social, moral, and intellectual faculties
through education.

5.
A high degree of taste and refinement formed by aesthetic and
intellectual training.

6.
The development of the body through special training: physical
culture.

7.
The cultivation of the soil: tillage.

8.
The breeding of animals or growing of plants, esp. to ,produce
improved stock.

9.
Biol. a.  The growing of microorganisms in a nutrient medium.  b.
           {.... biological aspects deleted ...}

SYNONYMS:  culture, cultivation, breeding, refinement, taste.  These
nouns are applied to personal achievement in the development of
intellect, manners, and aesthetic appreciation.  Culture, which
overlaps the others implies enlightenment attained through close
association with and appreciation of the highest level of
civilization.  Cultivation, usually refers to the self-improvement
or self-development of by which a person acquires culture.
Breeding, is the development of good character and behavior, and is
especially revealed in manners, poise, and sensitivity to the
feelings of others.  Refinement, the highest product of breeding,
stresses aversion to coarseness; sometimes it might imply a delicacy
of feeling associated with fastidiousness.  Gentility is sometimes
still still synonymous with refinement or good birth; in modern
usage, it may suggest extreme elegance in behavior or manners.
Taste, is the capacity for recognizing and appreciating what is
aesthetically superior.
--
... end of quote from `American Heritage Dictionary.'

Make of it what you will - what this newsgroup makes of it defines
the culture of this group.  Over the past decade, this group has
really served as a clearing house for information,  with an
aberration now and then.  The aberrations are a mixed bag too:
sometimes culture and sometimes shouting matches.  Just a few random
thoughts....
 
No flames, please.

[] Regards,   | Industrial    :      _________ ___________ ___________
Aayush Asthana| Technology    :    /___   ___//___    ___//___    ___/
aa@iti.org    | Institute     :   ____/  /___    /  /    ____/  /____ 
(313) 769-4652| Ann Arbor, MI :  /__________/   /__/    /___________/
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: abi@cup.hp.com (Abraham Amirtharaj)
Subject: Anyone going to India in Jan/Feb ?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:12:17 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

Hi Netters,
	I'm posting this for a friend of mine who does not have access
to this newsgroup. Please reply to e-mail address mjayakum@pcocd2.intel.com
or call him at (916)356 3261. His name is Jayakumar.

Thanks much.
-Abraham Amirtharaj.

--------------------x      Included Message    x----------------------------


My mother is going to Madras from San Fransicso via Singapore (leaving
San Francisco on Jan 17th 1993 - 1:45 AM). I would like to know if anyone
else is going to Madras at the same time and can accompany her. This date 
is fixed tentatively and can be changed. Also she understands only Tamil. 
I would appreciate if anyone planning their trip around  this time can 
contact me at (916)-356-3261 or send an e-mail to  mjayakum@pcocd2.intel.com.

Thanks a lot
Bye
-Jayakumar.
From: sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: WANTED: Desi movies for public screening
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:18:59 GMT
Reply-To: sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering


Hi again,

Am yet to receive any response from this network.

"Am involved with the India Club in Tucson, AZ. Does anyone know what I
need to do and who I need to contact for arranging the screening of desi
movies here. 
Any help in this matter is appreciated. 
Kindly post me at : sununu@ece.arizona.edu "

Thank you,

Arun
From: pushkar@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (pushkar tamhane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Something to remember
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:02:14 GMT
Reply-To: pushkar@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (pushkar tamhane)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: pushkar@bongo.cc.utexas.edu

In case the netters have forgotten the following:
****************************************************************
Where the mind is without fear
Where knowledge is free
Where the world has not been broken up into fragments by narrow
                domestic wall.
Where words come out from the depth of truth
Where tireless striving stretches its arms towards perfection
Where the clear stream of reason has not lost its way into the
        dreary desert sands of dead habits
Where the mind is led forward by thee into everwidening thoughts
        and action
Into that heaven of freedom, my father, let my country awake.

                               -RABINDRANATH TAGORE
****************************************************************

Pushkar Tamhane
pushkar@bongo.cc.utexas.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Books and the Indian-American experience
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 16:52:28 GMT

(susan chacko) writes:

>Amy Tan writes about the Chinese-American experience. Guessing from
>the characters in her two books, her parents emigrated to the US 
>soon after World War II. Her books are a non-sentimental look at the
>vast gulf that exists between the immigrant Chinese parents and
>the American children, and yet she speaks as an insider from
>both perspectives. 

Interesting, very interesting.  Is there any literature on marriages
between people from different parts of India.  Our own country is more
like a continent, and a bengo marrying a tamilian is not very differnt
than a german marrying a spaniard.  Are there any good books on that
subject?  Ofcourse that is such a "your mileage may vary" subject.

Sanjoy Ghosh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: Indian civilization being oldest
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:23:08 GMT

In <1992Nov18.223557.15633@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> swami1@troy.cc.bellcore.com (swaminathan,kashi r) writes:
>>Have a vice Vedic day!
>>
>>-Suresh
>>
>>
>By the way how does it go? Vedam Therintha tamizhnadu, or is it
>Vedam arindha tamizhnadu?

       Yes! vEdham niRaintha tamizh naadu.

    1. aathisoodi
    2. kondRai vEnthan
    3. moothutai
    4. naaladiyaar
    5. thirukkuRaL
   and so on.

  Kathiravan
From: picardo@cthulhu.ces.cwru.edu (Leslie Picardo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ** Indian Marriage **
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:29:34
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, CWRU, Cleveland OH.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cthulhu.ces.cwru.edu
In-reply-to: joshi@mercury.ncat.edu's message of Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:57:52 GMT




> 
> In article joshi@mercury.ncat.edu writes:
> 
> 
>    Hi netters,
> 
> 	   Here is a piece on arranged marriage that is really funny. Enjoy !!!
> 
> 
>    **************************************************************************
> 		 The Arranged Marriage: An Investigative Report 
> 		 =====================  =======================
> 
> 		       All Rights (and Wrongs) Preserved


      ------ rest deleted -----

 
 These articles  were originally posted on sci by Asjeet Lamba
 (@washington.state ?) a couple of years ago. The author should 
 be given credit for his creativity and humor. 



 


 



 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: Re: Excluding men
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:27:35 GMT

In article <2088@newsserver.cs.uwindsor.ca> rangana@cs.uwindsor.ca (RANGANATHAN A            ) writes:
>
>I have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is :
>I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express
>sentiments that differentiate me from a doormat.
>				
>					-Rebecca West, author.
>


We need someone to post CAMILLE PAGLIA's views on feminism here....


-- 
Bapcha - A very bad boy from Cypress Semiconductor
3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719