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From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: Gremlins are munching my memory! (FastRam)
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:34:00 GMT

jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:

> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>>jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:
>>>    The 'loadwb -debug' option is on pre-WB 2.04. For WB 2.04 use
>>>   avail /flush as there is no loadwb -debug in Wb 2.04. DJ.
>>
>>Hogwash.  RTFM, page 8-83.  "The -DEBUG option makes a special developer menu,
>>Debug, availible in the Workbench menu bar."  I also know this is true for
>>2.04 since the first thing I did when I switched from 1.3 is to change the
>>LoadWB to a LoadWB -debug.  :)
>   
>      Thats a new one on me ! I'll look in the manual; after I finish
>   Spring Semster registration here at work. DJ.
>   I do know the avail /flush command is in my WB 2.04 manual...

It sure is in the manual.  I like it better than avail flush because it's 
easier to put in the menu bar.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick)
Subject: New program: CaveComm
Originator: shulick@navajo
Reply-To: shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:58:07 GMT


Me release CaveComm, version one.  Ugh!  Send smelly smoke signals to
another person.  Careful, smoke is kind that attract
megaterafloparoundtyrus, flying goat that eat everything.  Bug should be
fixed in next version.  Also, if you away on important bashing, CaveComm
log incoming message by making wife angry with extra smelly smoke.  Now
you never forget important message!  Best of all, CaveComm as portable
as dragging wife by hair.

Me generous, and include source code:

<---<<  O           ^    OOOO
      --|-- oOo(   /    OOo
        |         /    OOO
       / \       /     oOO
   \\               .ooO
  ///\   >:(       .      =8@  <-- This ugly wife after smelling smoke.
  /\//\           /^\'              Huh huh huh huh!
                 //\\/

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ccb8m@onyx.cs.Virginia.EDU (Charles C. Bundy)
Subject: Re: A1200 HD question
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:16:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.082649.7882@cheshire.oxy.edu> khan@cheshire.oxy.edu (Onnie Lynn Winebarger) writes:
>In article <1993Jan10.171708.8502@medsys.rn.com> wendell@medsys.rn.com (Wendell Dingus) writes:
>>ccb8m@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Charles C. Bundy) writes:
>>
>>>For all you Amiga "guru's" :)
>>
>>>I've had my 1200HD/80 for a week and a half.  The problem is this :)
>>>My Maxtor HD is acting flakey.  It started giving me block errors as
>>>I put stuff onto the HD.  Needless to say I immediately whipped out 
>>>HDtoolbox and did a "verify drive."  Five times I ran it and five
>>>times it came back with "No Errors"!  However when I would attempt to
>>>read certain files I still got the "block error" requestor.
>>
>>>OK me thinks, let us do a low level format!  Well I tried and tried AND
>>>tried, but it never worked!  Nothing was ever deleted! No Low level format
>>>was ever done!  Before I yell at C= or my dealer, I thought I'd see if
>>>I was doing anything wrong.
>>
>>>Can anybody give me any clues?
>>
>>Is this a Maxtor 2585AT you're using? I'm going to be installing two of these
>>particular drives for customers in 1200's either Tuesday or Wednesday of this
>>week. I sure hope they work ok! Has anyone verified whether they have the 
>>64K maxtransfer bug many 2.5" drives have? I thought I read that they didn't.
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>-- Wendell Dingus    internet:  wendell@medsys.rn.com       //  
>>--    uucp:  uunet!gator!medsys!wendell    Only AMIGA!    \X/
>
>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought you couldn't low-level format any
>IDE hard drive.  This could present a real problem :).
>Lynn
>khan@cheshire.oxy.edu

Well, I have certainly low level formatted IDE HD on IBM PC/AT's.  AMI BIOS
even has a bunch of drive routines (lowlevel fmt, check drive, etc...) so I
know that it can be done :)  The problem is the amiga doesn't want to do
it, and high level format results in a cancel at cyl 477...

I have also low level formatted SCSI drives on Sun Workstations....  It
isn't normal procedure, but it CAN be done.

Charles C. Bundy IV
ccb8m@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: clldomps@cs.ruu.nl (Louis van Dompselaar)
Subject: Re: ReOrg ever fatally messed up?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:05:46 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

There's a shareware program called Blitz A Disc (B.A.D.), which
hasn't many options you can choose of, besides optimizing for
WB or Shell usage, but has never ever crashed on me (not on 1.3
and not on 2.04). It works with both FFS and OFS.

Louis

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From: erhellfr@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Edgar Hellfritsch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,eunet.jokes
Subject: Re: HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:18:43 GMT
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
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sleejy@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:

>In article <C0AC0J.H87@newcastle.ac.uk>, I.A.Inman@newcastle.ac.uk (I.A. Inman) writes:
>> 
>> HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>   You too and every one else out there! %-)
> 
Sorry I didn't get this one.
Could someone explain?

Edgar (Ow, ow, stop kicking!)

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From: BC@cup.portal.com (Robert David Comer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Accelerators/FAST RAM for A1200s?
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 22:01:37 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>I just got a new A1200. Wonderful machine!
>
>however, it is lacking in both memory and raw speed for some
>if the stuff I was used to doing on my 6 MB A3000. So, does anyone
>out there know of memory/accelerator upgrades available or available RSN
>for the A1200?
>
>Ian.
>--
>"Apple's attitude toward its ROM code is a little like that of a rich kid
>toward his inheritance. Not actually knowing how to create wealth himself,
>he guards what he has with hysterical fervor." - John Perry Barlow
>MAIL : IANK@MICROSOFT.COM                        Crime and Puzzlement

Microbotics is shipping the MBX1200, that sporst an FPU and 1 SIMM socket, for
either 4 or 8 meg's of 32 bit RAM.

I have one on baclorder, but I do know they are definitely shipping, so it
shouldn't take to long. (My A1200 wont be here for another day or 2 anyway,
bummer.)

Bob Comer
From: bjst@sth.frontec.se (Bjorn Stenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Workbench, icons and scripts
Date: 10 Jan 93 14:37:23 GMT
Organization: IDK/Frontec - System Design Group

Being a close-minded CLI hacker for long, I haven't quite done my homework
on WB2.1. I realize this is an easy one, but what am I to do... <blush>

I have this game in a drawer with a TOOL icon starting the executable binary
file. I can rename the .info file to start whatever executable I want, 
but I cannot have it start a script file. Why not?

I'm thinking of two possible answers:

A) Script files should have PROJECT icons and the tool 'execute'.
   Following question: How do I create a PROJECT icon, preserving the icon
   image of the TOOL icon.

B) Some sort of setup in the Information requester. TOOLTYPE or whatever.
   I have the SRWED flags set, so that's not the problem.

So, what part of the manual do I read? ;-)

		-- Bjorn

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Hanna)
Subject: Re: A1200 HD question
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 16:27:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.171708.8502@medsys.rn.com> wendell@medsys.rn.com (Wendell Dingus) writes:
>ccb8m@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Charles C. Bundy) writes:
>
>>For all you Amiga "guru's" :)
>
>>I've had my 1200HD/80 for a week and a half.  The problem is this :)
>>OK me thinks, let us do a low level format!  Well I tried and tried AND
>>tried, but it never worked!  Nothing was ever deleted! No Low level format
>>was ever done!  Before I yell at C= or my dealer, I thought I'd see if
>>I was doing anything wrong.
Well, be happy that it did not do a low level format.  Do not ever attempt
to do a low level format on an IDE (AT) drive--it will ruin it.  IDE drives
are different from SCSI drives and do not need to be low level formatted.
It sounds like C= disabled that function in their scsi lookalike driver
for ide drives, and I would like to thank them for that.

Jeff Hanna
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From: jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1000 & misc. questions, advice
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:44:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1993Jan6.164432.8767
Reply-To: jh@cadre.com
Organization: Cadre Technologies, Inc.

In article 23086@ornl.gov, de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill) writes:
>I guess I've been spoiled by the $20k workstations I use every day at work. 
>The 1000 and AmigaDOS (1.3) seem pretty primative.
>
>What can/should I do to make this system more usable? 

>Should I just save up for '486 clone?  If not, why not?  I'm a computing
>professional with a CS degree.  I'm a UNIX weenie and a competent C
>programmer.  I realize the Amiga is a theoretically superior platform but I
>also realize that the PC platform has a huge user base, endless third party
>support, trillions of software packages, and very competitibe pricing.
>
>I expect to use my home computer for games, word processing,
>spreadsheet/financial apps, and perhaps some hacking/software development. 
>Ability to take advantage of good free software like GNU Emacs, GCC, and
>various X apps is a plus.

Well, the amount of use you can get out of the 1000 is directly proportional
to how much cash you want to drop into it.  I have a 1000 which has 4 meg of
RAM, and 120 Meg of hard drive space.  I'm running WB2.04, and use it as for
telecommunications, some software development, and as an X terminal running
over a CSLIP connection to my Sun at work!  It hasn't been cheap to get it
up to this point, but the cost has been spread over the past 9 years or so,
and work got me the X and SLIP software :-)

At this point, I'd suggest leaving the 1000 as a game machine for the kids and
consider buying a new machine.  The 3000's are awful cheap right now...



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner)
Subject: Attn Commodore: Legal question on 2.1
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 18:41:03 GMT

I happen to have two Amigas.  (How lucky can one get.)  I've upgraded one to
2.1, but the other is still at 1.3.  Commodore has two upgrade packages
available: 1.3 -> 2.1 and 2.0 -> 2.1.  The difference is that the one includes
a 2.0 ROM, and the other doesn't.  I know that 2.0 ROMs can be purchased
separately.  I'm going to buy the ROM separately, and I'd be willing to
also buy the disks, but they don't come separately.  The package including
the manuals is expensive and I don't need another copy of the manuals.

My legal question is: Can I just get the second 2.0 ROM and use the software
on both machines without buying another copy of the disks?  What is Commodore's
official position?

I need an official answer from Commodore.  If any of the readers at Commodore
would be willing to answer directly (officially), I'd be grateful.  If you
can't answer officially, please forward this message to someone who can.
If you would prefer that I contact them directly, please give me the e-mail
and/or paper address of someone to contact.  If you need to contact me directly
for a postal address, use the address in the signature.

			Thanks in advance,
				-=:[ VAL ]:=-

P.S.: This topic is meant directly for Commodore, but it is pertinent enough
      that it could/should be discussed.  Anybody have any comments?  (Just
      doing it without worrying about the legalities is not an option.)
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From: beust@aurora.unice.fr (Cedric Beust)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re:  WorkBench 2.1?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:40:59 +0100
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis, France
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aurora.unice.fr


In article <jperkski.02ki@kentcomm.UUCP>, jperkski@kentcomm.UUCP (Jim Perkowski)
writes:
>
>Interesting. I got mine with Ami-Back 2.0 and it is really nothing more than >
>library and *.guide files. Is there a program for making AmigaGuide files?

	Personally, I use makeinfo (which has been ported to Amiga to produce
	Amigaguide text) and I strongly suggest to everyone willing to
	write an Amigaguide file to take a look at it before writing
	it from scratch.

	Just write your doc in makeinfo's language (fairly close to TeX)
	and then it will output :

	- an ASCII file
	- an Amigaguide file
	- a full Postscript manual with index and table of contents
	- (and also a texinfo file but there's little interest for
	that on the Amiga)

	By the way, I think the original author of the message was referring
	to an Amigaguide *viewer*, not the library or a .guide file. The
	best one is AmigaGuide (supplied with SAS 6). There are alternate
	guide viewers in the public domain but none comes close to
	Amigaguide.

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From: u920659@daimi.aau.dk (Carsten S|rensen)
Subject: Re: Gremlins are munching my memory! (FastRam)
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 15:03:48 GMT

crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:

>I can't find the memory muncher that is eating my Fast RAM :<

>It seems like the amount of Fast Ram available to me on boot up keeps shrinking,
>and I can't figure out where it is going... :<

>I have a 2000HD, with 2.04, 1mg Agnus/2mg Fast using full Overscan and an
>Interlaced screen on a monochrome monitor.   I understand that Overscan and
>Interlacing take up CHIP ram, but it is FAST RAM that is disappearing, and I'd
>like to know just *what* the memory munchers are, and how much memory they
>are using - so I can make intelligent decisions on what to delete for optimum
>performance.                

>I've discovered the CLI commands "avail" and "status" as well as the shareware
>program ARTM, but none of those will tell me just how MUCH memory is being
>taken up by each individual item.  :<

>Also...

>Is there a way to get programs to RELEASE all of the memory they snatch when you
>load them?  It's frustrating to have 900K, load a program that takes 150K and
>only releases 100K of it when you close it, leaving 50K still in memory that
>can't be accessed. :<  This plays havoc with Pagestream when I want to work
>with large files or graphics and the memory that was there earlier is now
>unavailable... :<

>And I noticed that running "status" munched a bunch of memory and didn't
>let go of it when I exited the shell.

>I *know* I can just buy some more Ram and solve the above problems, but money
>is tight right now, and I'd like to learn where my memory is going...

>Thanks...
> Crystal
>    :>

I think that the problem could be that the programs you run open some
.libraries ... Because the libraries are not always flushed from the mem when
they are not used WHICH IS FRUSTRATING :) The solution is to add an argument
to your loadwb command in your startup-sequence. Like "LOADWB -DEBUG" (or is
it "LOADWB DEBUG"?) Anyway, when you do this an extra menu will appear next
to the original 4 in the workbench with two items (ROMWack and flushlibs) ...
So when you feel that something is munching your memory just select the
flushlibs item :-)

/Carsten


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From: brehonyt@ul.ie
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Is it possible to get an Amiga to read an MS-DOS formatted disk ?
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:59:18 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland




As the subject line says , Is it possible to get an Amiga to read IBM
formatted disks ?. And if so how do I go about doing it ?. Any advice 
would be appreciated. Thanks.

Tom Brehony.
Internet Email : brehonyt@ul.ie

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Gremlins are munching my memory! (FastRam)
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:30:28 GMT

20659@daimi.aau.dk (Carsten S|rensen) writes:
>crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>
>>I can't find the memory muncher that is eating my Fast RAM :<
>
>I think that the problem could be that the programs you run open some
>.libraries ... Because the libraries are not always flushed from the mem when
>they are not used WHICH IS FRUSTRATING :) The solution is to add an argument
>to your loadwb command in your startup-sequence. Like "LOADWB -DEBUG" (or is
>it "LOADWB DEBUG"?) Anyway, when you do this an extra menu will appear next
 
    The 'loadwb -debug' option is on pre-WB 2.04. For WB 2.04 use
   avail /flush as there is no loadwb -debug in Wb 2.04. DJ.

>/Carsten
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From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM at CES/Vegas quickie report
Date: 12 Jan 1993 02:11:19 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33

In article <1993Jan11.015405.392@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>In article <73144@cup.portal.com> Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser) writes:
>
>>One new thing being shown, altho very quietly, as in no
>>signs and no press release is MPEG on a card inside a 4000
>>running full motion full screen video streams in a sizeable
>>window. Jeff Porter of CBM Engineering (a real nice guy btw) 
>>told me this is a new Amiga product in development. Release date/price 
>>to be announced later. It looked damn good to me. 
>
>Wow. Did he provide any additional details?

Fascinating.  One thing comes to mind--I was curious as to how much
speed a floating-point DSP, such as one of the AT&T beasts, with, say,
it's own operating system (the _ONLY_ way to do a DSP, imho.  ;),
would lend to a real-time MPEG system.

Anyone who's been playing with the source would be welcome to comment
on how much optimization could be done with a DSP in mind.

Greg



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From: ag@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Andy Garton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Custom HD Icons
Date: 5 Jan 1993 13:57:46 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company
Distribution: world
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I have an A1200 with 60MB IDE hard drive and (obviously) WorkBench 3.

I have seen in various magazine screen shots of WB screens different icons for the SYS: and WORK: hard drive partitions.  I am getting the normal floppy icons however.  I can't find a solution in my manual (possibly because the A1200 is supplied with only half the manuals I actually need :-().

How do I change these icons? 
 
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From: msp@msen.com (Jerry Foster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: ReOrg ever fatally messed up?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:14:22 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Sam Hulick (shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu) wrote:

: Has anyone had ReOrg trash their HD?  I can't afford a decent backup
: method for my HD, but it needs defragmenting.

Yes.  I used it a while back and it hung at 99% done.  When I rebooted I
lost everything on my hd and had to rebuild it from whatever I had saved
to floppies.  BUT, I just dl'd the newest version (3.1?) and the docs
specifically say the 99% crash bug has been fixed.  Simply proceed at your
own risk.
 
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