From: ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Skip Watson)
Newsgroups: alt.sys.amiga.uucp
Subject: alt.sys.amiga.cnews
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:10:09 GMT
Reply-To: ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us
Organization: Auldhaefen Associates
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <211292v0544@hamburg.uucp> wusel@hactar.hanse.de (Kai 'wusel' Siering) writes:
[...]
> ALTNET:
>  - Post proposal to alt.config asking for comments. If not too much poeple
>    say `nah!' during 3 (more? less?) weeks, go on and
> 
>  - post the `newgroup mygroup' to `alt.config', stating something like
>    `according to discussion in alt.config ...'
> 
> Am I wrong? (That's more or less the way it's done in de.*/de.alt.*, the
> German newsgroups.) If not, an alt group is a lot easier and faster to
> create -- for the cost of lesser propagation, I am told.

	That's basically it for an alt group except that there are no time
limits.

------------------ From the alt group creation faq ----------------------------

		Now the Guidelines:
		-------------------

       1) Propose a new alt group in alt.config.  The proposal
          should include a charter or purpose for the new group, and
          some demonstration of the need for the group.  It is best to
          make it clear in your subject line that you are proposing a
          new group. Be prepared to explain why an existing group cannot
          be used for this purpose, and why the group should be in "alt"
          rather than in one of the mainstream hierarchies (like
          "rec", "sci", etc.).  Avoiding the complexity of the
          mainstream group creation procedure is not a very good
          reason, groups should not be created in "alt" just because
          it's easier.  Many sites do not get any alt groups, so if
          you are proposing a serious group, it is worth the effort to
          try to get it into a mainstream hierarchy.

       2) See what the alt.net.opinion of the new group is.  Wait a
          few days for replies to trickle in from the far corners of
          the net.  If the consensus (however you determine that) is
          that the group should be created, then proceed to step 3.

          (these first two steps are often ignored, which usually
          leads to unpleasantness in step 4 below)

       3) Post a "newgroup" control message.  If you don't know
          how to do this, check with your news administrator.  If you
          ARE your news administrator, and you can't figure it out
          from the documentation you have (or don't have any
          documentation) send me mail and I will help you.  NOTE that
          many sites do NOT automatically honor "newgroup" and
          "rmgroup" control messages, the news software at these sites
          will send mail to the news administrator, who will evaluate
          your request and decide whether or not to create the group.
          It may take a couple of days for the control message to
          propagate and be acted upon, so don't expect instant
          availability of the new group, particularly if you post the
          control message on a Friday night.

          NB:	It is good manners to put a description of the new
          	newsgroup into the newgroup message, along with a
          	one-line description suitable for inclusion into the
          	newsgroups file.

       4) Let the individual site news administrators decide
          whether to honor your "newgroup" message.  Most admins
          prefer that the message come from a verifiable account,
          messages which are obviously forged, or have not been
          discussed in alt.config and contain no explanation will
          probably not be honored by many sites.  Persons opposed to
          the group, or admins who feel that the newgroup message was
          a forgery may send out "rmgroup" messages to try to sabotage
          the group.  It may take several iterations of this process
          to firmly establish the new group.  It has been humorously
          suggested that only alt groups which get 100 more "newgroup"
          than "rmgroup" messages should be established.  However,
          these "rmgroup wars" are annoying to news administrators,
          and reduce the overall acceptance (and distribution) of the
          "alt" hierarchy.  This is the reason that steps 1 and 2
          above are important.
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