HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Prove That Kids are Precious Gifts From God. (Was: Re: ra-ising c-hildren)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 14:44:10 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <lort.722399409@sfu.ca> lort@fraser.sfu.ca (Charles Lort) writes:
>
>obviously you have never had children of your own.  One day you may if you are intelligent enough, have that rare opportunity to be in the delivery room when your own child is born.  Then you can argue that there are no miracles or God.

    Well, here's an interesting correlation!  "If you are intelligent
enough", you may be in the delivery room when your kid is born.  Exactly
which part of this sequence of events requires intelligence?  Sexual
intercourse?  Getting permission to be in the delivery room?  Watch the
action without throwing up?

    What pomposity.

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     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:02:57 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov15.204331.17994@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
|
|Try wearing your "Cure" t-shirt to work some time with the
|worn-through-at-the-knees blue jeans and see how long you stay at your
|RealWorld job, assuming that they hire you in the first place.

I just heard about our "official" dress code the other day.  It is
"clothes must be worn".  

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| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Date: 21 Nov 92 01:57:30 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Nov20.201635.103937@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:
>margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
|>Wouldn't rec.food.cooking be more appropriate?  :-)
|
|That reminds me......gotta pick up some salsa for the tailgate party
|tomorrow....

At the net.dinner that Larry, myself and others attended during Interop
someone suggested a new newsgroup, rec.food.tasteless.  This thread 
obviously belongs there.

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| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: allisson@turing.toronto.edu (H. Allisson Roome)
Subject: Bed after Breakfast 
Organization: Net.Gypsy/ROM
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:58:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.200746.26651@gvl.unisys.com> liz@prc.unisys.com 
(Liz Loquacious) writes:
How's the voice???
>In article <DANIEL.92Nov19121924@algol.clsi.COM>, daniel@clsi.COM 
(Daniel Barclay) writes:
>|> > Mine's for sale...and it's a four-posted one.  Of course you'll have to 
>|> > wait till after the boink!
>|> > 
>|> > Liz Loquacious
>|> 
>|> You know, I have this image in my mind of four net.posters standing at the
>|> corners of the bed holding a canopy over Allisson.
>
>And I hear your dream came true. 
>

Sigh, after a lovely breakfast ... I get asked to lay on the waterbed while
four wonderful men from the net hold a canopy over me ... no dancers or
harem slaves though.

>More details about the Philly Boink later or tomorrow...
>
Ditto ....

>Still recovering,
>
Ditto...

>Liz Loquacious

Thanks to a gracious and wonderful hostess ....

Allisson


-- 
allisson@turing.toronto.edu                            H. Allisson Roome
"Kindness is the beginning and end of the Law" - Hebrew Proverb

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington)
Subject: Re: ISO MY PRINCESS
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:28:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.235541.19384@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <Bxv2FE.E1t@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>
>>And marsupials are *not* second-class mammals!
>
>Now, even though some of my best friends are marsupials (well, they could
>be--I haven't checked), don't they usually score in the lowest placentiles?
>
>Trygve   (I know, I know--the tests must contain a racial bias....)

Are eu therious? Marsupials don't even make it into the placentile
rankings. They've adapted to a different set of test conditions and
fail marsupially (and monotremously) in competition with many
placentals. Theriously! Cats and rats are major problems for
Australia's native fauna.

Chris

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: net.hugs?
Organization: Don't blame me, I voted for Bill 'n' Opus
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:20:42 GMT

In article <31539@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>In <1992Nov17.192506.24522@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>>In article <31517@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>>>I'd like to ask why people share *hugs* and *kisses* on the net.  What
>>>is the value of them?  Would you also hug and kiss a stranger in real
>>>life?
>>As a matter of fact, yes.  Take a look at my .sig.....
>
>Yes, but you give hugs and backrubs in an environment where they are
>accepted and common [isn't this what sf cons are for? :)].  Several
>people have said the same about alt.romance.*. Hugs and kisses belong
>there, they are appreciated and valued.  Perhaps they are right about
>network hugs, personally I don't value them.
>
>For me, a hug on the net from a stranger is just a word.  I don't see
>him/her, I don't know what he/she wants.  I don't get much out of it.
>An email hug is a little better, a real one is the best.

I'll agree with you to a certain extent about hugs posted to the Net;
however, I do frequently hug "strangers" from the Net outside of the con
environment.  I don't usually kiss them, given the social mores that are
still common, but if someone kissed me, I wouldn't object.  (Hopefully,
the ProblemOlderWoman wouldn't object, either.  ;-)
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jennings@tran.fishkill.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: Hints (Was Re: What is attractive)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 14:47:00 GMT
Reply-To: jennings@tran.fishkill.ibm.com ()
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily
those of IBM
In article <721406549fred.fred@walter.UUCP>, fred@walter.UUCP (Fred
Walter) writes:
> valentin@next3.corp.mot.com writes:
> >The response to the 'hints' thread has been great.  I summarized the  
> >various opinions I have been gathering:
> >
> >GUYS:
> 
> [text deleted, basically saying that guys need to do alot of extra work]
> 
> >GALS:
> 
> [text deleted, basically saying that girls should be patient with guys
>  when they don't manage to do all that of extra work]
> 
> Hmmm. So, I'm supposed to do my damnest to make her feel special. No mention
> here of my feelings or desires. And she's supposed to be understanding when
> I don't measure up to filling her (usually not directly stated) needs...
> again no mention of my needs or wants.
> 
> For some reason I don't like this relationship model.
> 
> (Why is it that older women are more reasonable about these things ?)
> 
> 	fred
	
Bingo, fred!!  although i don't necessarily think that it's just older
women. IMHO i think both genders become more reasonable as they get
older. i know that i'm *much* more reasonable than i was 10 years ago.	
maybe older is wiser, or at least more reasonable :-)		

any comments		

bill the cat......
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:58:26 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Nov21.121447.29185@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>In article <lgqe6pINNhs8@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov20.000314.19764@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>
>>> Even if there is a minimum
>>> balance required, I can't see that as a particularly important factor--I've
>>> been known to let my checking account balance creep up to $15,000+ before
>>> getting around to transferring the money elsewhere. 
>>
>>Your sweetsie-pie persona is starting to slip, Tryg baby.  You only said
>>this to be a shit and so you could see all the unworthies reading this 
>>group whimper.
>
>Now would I do a thing like that?  (And who reading this group is unworthy?)

James meekly raises hand. Gives a sick little cough and goes back to
cowering.
 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:32:00 GMT

In article <5748@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.com writes:
>trygve lode (tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
>: >Ahhh... but, you see, I WOULDN'T do anything like that without total
>: >support from my spouse! No strain then!
>: 
>: Well, it still wouldn't work for me, since I wouldn't like feeling like 
>: my spouse would feel like she couldn't do such things without my permission.
>: (I'd be happy to have my input and advice solicited, but I'd want it to
>: be entirely her decision.)
>
>Well, marriage is a partnership. If you did something like that in business,
>you would not be a partner anymore! When it comes to using funds from a 
>'partnership' (either one), you'd BETTER discuss it and get support !
>If you keep on living separate lives in a common house/bed, good luck!

But, you see, my ideal relationship is a relationship between two 
individuals who retain their own individuality and the responsibility
for their own decisions while still being emotionally committed.  You
can be a partner and still be a person; I would expect someone in such
a relationship to tell her SO about such things and solicit his/her
advice, but the decision itself still should be hers.

Trygve   (Who has been a partner in more than one business--but that has
          never stopped me from making investment decisions for myself;
          nor has my doing so strained the partnership.  But then, whether
          in business or romance, I don't generally get involved with
          control freaks.)
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Are you a Young Transplant?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:36:34 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>                            O  O   O  O
>HA, HA, IT is to laugh.     O  O   O  O
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For the love of god, will you get rid of this miserable sig before I lose
all faith in humanity and tote a gun up to some McDonalds somewhere and
blow hell out of some innocent people?  I'm close enough to doing that at
the best of times, you wouldn't want to be the final straw would you?  

Either that or add a couple of wretched ascii pictures of roadkill and 
add some wretched quotes from wretched 70's bands and give yourself some
supposedly cool name like "Pissathon, Prince of Darkness" and GET THYSELF
TO ALT.FAN.WARLORD! 

(I'm not being a net.cop, you understand.  I'm just threatening you with
physical violence if I'm not happy.  I do that a lot; it seems to work
well.)

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
From: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 10:29:53 -0700
Reply-To: wildrose!rkf@infoserv.com
Organization: Wild Rose Refugee Camp

loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:
>In article <5720@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.COM (Tim Sailer) writes:

>   No. In a long term relationship (read marriage), there should never be a
>   question of 'my' money and 'your' money. It gets thrown into the pot, 
>   each one gets a budgetted amount for them to spend as they want (you
>   HAVE to have some 'mad money'), bills are paid, and the rest gets
>   put into savings. As long as the combined incomes are enough to support
>   you both, it shouldn't be a problem.

>Well, this is a pleasant fiction, IMHO.  "It shouldn't be a problem" until
>you split up, and then you're totally screwed.  I've known friends who've
>gone through some *extremely* nasty divorces that were complicated by this
>kind of naiveity in handling their financial arrangements.  E.g., one
>spouse found that the other had totally cleaned out their joint bank
>accounts, trashed his credit rating, and had a restraining order preventing
>him from trying to reclaim any of their other joint assets (furniture,
>car, etc.) pending the divorce settlement.  Similar financial problems can
>occur in the case of death of a spouse.

My ex and I used Tim's approach quite successfully when we were married, and 
were able to get through the divorce without any of the nonsense that
Sandra describes. Then again, we had very similar incomes and views about
money, and a relatively civil divorce.  Note that if you live in a
community property state like Idaho (my home) or California, the
statement "what's mine is yours" is legally supported.

>Love isn't a substitute for common sense when it comes to money.  CYA
>and visit a lawyer before you do anything as stupid as getting
>married!

Good advice, in more ways than one! :-)

-- 
-- Ray

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: cocoa@netcom.com
Subject: Re: Question: How to increase the male sex drive ?
Organization: The Chocolate Factory
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:02:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.220838.5557@cbfsb.cb.att.com> sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein) writes:
>>markr@mot.com (Mark) writes:
>>>woman (about 31) with, to put it lightly, a very high sex drive.  My sex drive
>>>has reduced markedly over the past 4 years, and I would like to do what I can
>>>to increase it.

>Personally, I believe the main contributing factor here is "psychological"
>(barring any physical disorders).  Self image (improved through exercise,
>weight lifting, etc...) improves ones own sex drive.  Which inturn
>can influence how others perceive us and how WE feel others perceive us.
>Diet, of course is important for us to maintain a healthy physical and
>mental state.  Physical and mental attraction toward another can influence
>our sex drive.  My sex drive has increased as time moves on. I'm 38.
>Why?????  I feel I have a better understanding and appreciation toward
>women than I did when I was younger (when I "thought" I knew everything).
>On the other hand, sex drive can vary from person to person due to 
>physiological differences.  Incompatibility in this area could be a
>problem.  

Agreed.  Psychology seems much more important that age or state of fitness.
The first time I had sex with someone in his late 30's (me being in my early
20's), I was really surprised to find out how much stamina and energy there
was to older men.  I could barely keep up with him.  And I've known some 
younger men who couldn't last longer than a few commercials. :(
Though the best part of sex with someone who's older and more experienced
has to do with that person usually having less hangups and being more 
adventureous.  That and being someone who's not afraid to ask what you 
like, and who is sensitive to your needs is truely wonderful.

Just me,

little 'e'

(and my SO better thank me for saying these nice things about him if he
happens to read this. :)

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Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.pagan,alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.polyamory,talk.religion.misc
From: markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr)
Subject: Re: Prove That Kids are Precious Gifts From God. (Was: Re: ra-ising c-hildren)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:58:54 GMT
Organization: n.o.y.b

In article <lort.722399409@sfu.ca> lort@fraser.sfu.ca (Charles Lort) writes:
>rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>>In article <16NOV199214485252@apsicc.aps.edu> jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...) writes:
>>>In article <1992Nov16.062327.3208@netcom.com>, rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes...
>>>>In article <1dv474INNn3@manuel.anu.edu.au> Lubosh <Lubosh.Hanuska@anu.edu.au> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>Okay, but I think little kids are too precious gifts of God to be used
>>>>>for experiments.
>>>>>Lubosh
>>>> 
>>>>     You have to prove there is a God before you can say that little
>>>>kids or anything for that matter is a precious gift from God.
>>>	
>>>	I disagree with this statement. You don't have to prove that
>>>	there is a God to say that children are a rare gift indeed.
>>>	To take and corrupt a fresh childs mind is, or should be a crime.
>>>	If doubt be taken just talk to people who have been trying un-
>>>	successfully to have children of their own.
>>>
>>>> 
>>     Did I miss something here.  Lubosh said "...little kids are too
>>precious gifts of God...", which says that kids are precious gifts
>>from God.  I repeat and add, before Lubosh can say that kids are precious
>>gifts from God, he has to prove God exists and that God says that kids are 
>>precious gifts from HIM/HER in a scientifically verifiable way.
>
>obviously you have never had children of your own.  One day you may if you are
>intelligent enough, have that rare opportunity to be in the delivery room when
>your own child is born.  Then you can argue that there are no miracles or God.

Bull. I was there when my twins were born. That wasn't any God. That was a
woman (my ex, if it matters) and a bunch of human medical personel working
*damn* hard.

Btw, experiments? You mean, like brainwashing them to believe in some big
old guy in the sky, and that nothing bad ever *really* happens, and then
expecting them to make rational decisions on philosophy when they grow up?

	mark
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:27:36 GMT
	<JMD.92Nov13135433@lion.bear.com>,<74344@apple.apple.COM>
	<htjq-2_@lynx.unm.edu> <1e9c48INNc5d@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu's message of 16 Nov 92 23:50:32 GMT


In article <1e9c48INNc5d@FUNCTOR.SYSTEMSZ.CS.YALE.EDU> loosemore-sandra@cs.yale.edu (Sandra Loosemore) writes:

   Me, I wouldn't work in a place where I was expected to get dressed up
   unless I was *really* desperate, which I'm not.  Heck, I don't even own
   a dress, and I wouldn't be caught dead in high heels either.

Yeah, I said that too, before they offered me more than twice the
salary offered me by anyplace else...

If I had taken the runner up (which didn't require wearing a suit/tie)
I would now be making less that a quarter of my present income.  
In fact, I would be lucky to be working at all, since that was at 
a military contractor which just had several thousand layoffs...

I think that's a reasonable trade-off...


Spidey!!!









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From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: nkill
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:15:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: grover.MARTINC.92Nov16111544
	<MARTINC.92Nov8152214@grover.cs.unc.edu>
	<1992Nov11.070916.11329@netcom.com>
	<1689CB999.SURGDM@mizzou1.missouri.edu> <74245@apple.apple.COM>
	<MARTINC.92Nov14160706@hatteras.cs.un
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: stef@Apple.COM's message of 16 Nov 92 13:36:44 GMT

In article <74339@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:

   martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:

   >In article <74245@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:

   >   If my argument is correct, that means the two candidates are equally
   >   qualified. 

   >it is the precise numerical score that matters in most civil
   >service and like exams (like promotion exams in Fire Departments and
   >Police Departments.)  There is *no* freedom to take someone with an 89
   >before someone with a 90.

   I realize this, but my point is that the small boost given to the minority 
   candidate does not cause a *less qualified* candidate to be hired. It 
   merely makes it a tad more likely that, given two equivalently qualified 
   candidates, the one who is a member of a minority group will be hired.

Okay, I see what you're saying ...but one can't be surprized then that
after being in a system that *claims* that the precise numerical score
is the sole criterion, people who find themselves at a numerical
disadvantage because of some other criterion resent the hell out of it.
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      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T