From: ravid@herky.cs.uiowa.edu (Ravi Dronamraju )
Subject: Re: August'14 (A nice Book and Historical Errors)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:54:11 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA

From article <1992Sep9.101639.29923@cc.uow.edu.au>, by g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh):
> indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:
> 
>> True! BUT YOU CAN UNDO HISTORICAL ERRORS! THAT IS WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY.
> 
>>   Islamic fundamentalism, where this strata of society was lead by some
>>   GROUPS for their personal motives. Also a failure by Indain leadership to 
>>   draw a line between Appeasement and Involvement in a national meovement.
>>   And in the eagerness to get political freedom, ignoring that 
>>   converted-Hindus  are being misled. This led to their impatience with 
>>   fundamentalists. No decisive force to guide the nation and counter 
>>   British propoganda. And falling prey to their propoganda-machine, and 
>>   english system. Both Jinnah and Nehru were products of this. 
> 
> 
> It is sad that Islamic fundamentalist parties were born after 
> Hind Fundamentalist party came into existence.
   This is true in my opinion. Both sides have commited equal mistakes 
   Hindu fundamentalists were  a good deal reason for the rise 
   of moslem league. And Muslim league had its share of mistakes 
   ion the final stages when congress had come down  on its knees to 
   prevent partition. 
> The leader of the Muslim League, was a secular man ( He married to a 
> PArsi and his daughter too. It is doubtful whether he practised Islam
> or not? He eat pork or not?). This Islamic fundamentalist got success 
> in a very small time because as you discribed there were no counter 
> British propoganda machine. If we look 1947 period then we may find 

  i would like to know in more detail about this man. Can anybody guide me 
  to a good reference. (prefarably by a foreign author who i beleive give 
  a reasonably imaprtial view of a personality)



> Pakistanis were wrong. But today, Pakistan has proved that their decision was
> right.
>>>
>>>If India has learnt anything from the creation of PAkistan is to
>>>repeat the same mistake. The answer is in hand : Sikhs are asking Khalistan.
> 
>>  NOT SIKHS! Say Pakistani trained terrorists. If their motives are forming
>>  a sikh state, (as some Indian Leader has said)
>>  Punjab state would be enlargened, with its capital being shifted from 
>>  Chandigarh to Lahore within the Constitutional Frame Work of India.
> 
> 
> Still you are singing in the GOI propaganda.

Or u may be singing GOP propaganda ... 

Who knows ?? 



> 
>>  WHAT HAS PAKISTAN LEARNT AFTER 1971. Smuggling-of-nuclear-bomb? Any way,
> 
> Pakistan learnt all these after India tested the bomb.
> 
>>  once we form Akhand Bharat, all these would not solve our problems. We need
>>  to tackle our POPUPLATION problem, and other problems on Economical front.
>>  As you know whole of Pakistan is Economically Bankrupt and is still 
>>  continuing with this Nuclear madness. We should tackle these. Atleast,
>>  if we focus our vision in that direction, then some start ! After all,
>>  we cannot let small countries overtake  OUR COUNTRY Economically.
>>  Atleast these economical changes have started in Greter Bharat! It is only
>>  in the minor Part(present PAKISTAN)  where we need to create this 
>>  awareness and sense of responsibility.
> 
> 
> All of a sudden, you start talking like  a  good boy.
> 
> Present PM of Pakistan has changed the nation economically.
> Same is happening in India.
>>>
>>>
>>>Bye
>>>Adil
> 
>>  *******    Garv Se Kaho ! HUM HINDU HAI!!!     ********
>>  *******        SWAYAM EVA MRIGENDRATA          ********
      
> 
> This is what Pakistani leaders had visualised in 1947 and took Pakistan.

> 
> 
>>-Indu.
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>>|  The views expressed above are on my personal basis.                 |
>>|  No Group or  Organization   can be held responsible                 |
>>|                                ( for those in quest of truth .......)|
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> 
> 
> Your slogans indicates which group or organization has induced your mind.

  why can't u assume, even for a moment, that given the history we learnt 
  we might sincerely be having these opnions. 


-Ravi

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