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From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Subject: Re: Earnhardt at N. Wilkesboro [NASCAR]
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 13 Apr 1992 14:31 EST  

In article <1992Apr13.112718.12830@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, curtisj@cae.wisc.edu 
(Curtis Jacobsen) writes...
>Well, it looked like Earnhardt was back to his strong arm tactics again.

>All one had to do was look at the side of his car......he almost had is
>white 3 covered with tire marks.

Name one car that didn't have tire marks on both sides of the car.

>First giving Trickle a good whap in the ass, causing Trickle to fall
>back a few positions.

He was just letting Dick know that he was there :-)  And I watched too many 
ASA races in the mid-to-late eighties to believe that Trickle never "moved 
anyone out of the way" on a short track.

>And then his big bout with Wallace, sure the fans loved it, but it did
>neither one of them any good to be trading paint while the leader walked
>away.

Hmm...  Was it Alan or Brett that was leading the race at the time?  
Neither one of them got too far away.

Actually, the Rusty and Dale show was the best part of the race that I saw 
(laps 1 thru 180).  I recall Hillin almost getting in that fray (at which 
time I remarked to my dad "I think that Bobby's out of his league here").

Anyway, tire marks and bent sheet metal are a fact of life on short tracks.

Let's see here, how many days 'til Martinsville?

Jim Dorcey
From: wayned@cbnewse.cb.att.com (wayne.martin.degrange)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Full Course Yellows in F1 Was Re: Mclaren Throttle/Ron Dennis
Summary: I appreciate F1 for what it is...
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:05:44 GMT
Organization: AT&T


> > 
> >I find the fullcourse yellow as one of the worst parts of CART.  It takes
> >away from all incentive to build a large lead for sure.  The cranes put
> >in place are a considerable expense, but since when has F1 ever been 
> >concerned about expense?
> >---
> > 
> >Mitch Sako - LSI Logic Corp	
> 
> I don't think that was Andrews point. A full course yellow in F1 could prevent
> the kind of nonsense that happened in Belgium during the 90 season. In the
> case of red flagging a race vs. yellow flagging the race for a couple of laps
> I have to go with full course yellows. 
> 
> George.

I rather like the diversity between the two systems.   In favor
of the full course yellow I think it has a side affect of keeping
more cars in the race.  IndyCar races tend to be competitive
to the very end.

However, I like F1 the way it is because it has the advantage of
allowing individuals to distinguish themselves from the also-rans,
in the most convincing of ways, leaving the rest of the field
behind.

I vote with leaving each series as it is.  Considering the similarities
between the two series, we need something to tell them apart
From: Jyri.Virkki@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jyri Virkki)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Senna-sux (c)
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:05:01 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Apr6.175047.4778@lsil.com> mitch@lsil.com writes:
>Anyone figure out what happenned to Senna in Brazil.  The arrogant jerk
>refused an interview I guess.  Nobody seemed to say what was the problem.
>He appeared to be going backwards for awhile before quitting.  Was he using
>the Integra or the new car?
>---

Apparently he was simply not emotionally capable of withstanding the
fact that he was being blown away, since he is not used to that.
Thus, he gave up. 


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From: ripley@tcom.stc.co.uk (Simon Ripley)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: F1 technology
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:47:24 GMT
Reply-To: hale%mother@tcom.stc.co.uk (Dave Hale)
Organization: NT Europe Limited, London N11 1HB.

With all the new technology coming out on F1 cars this season like
active suspension, anti wheelspin devices, etc etc.
Does anyone know if any of the teams have tried anti lock brakes?
I'm surprised I haven't heard of this being tried.
From: cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Magazine recommendations
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:14:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr16.021404.3347
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In response to the ongoing question of which magazines are good?
     I currently subscribe to Autoweek and The National Speed Sport News. I
     would greatly recommend Autoweek for any racing enthusiast because of its
     timeliness. Its great to read a full report from a knowledgeable source
     just four days after the race. As for NSSN, I would recommend this if you
     are interested in American oval( dirt and asphalt) as well as road racing
     because of its thoroughness in covering its intended audience: mostly
     Southern Americans and weekly races at the local track.I really would not
     recommend it for F1 readers since there are better sources. One last
     place to get good info on racing if for F1 exclusively: FOSA, or Formula
     One Spectators Association. It provides a totally different aspect to
     reporting. Their writer, George Goad, writes about the entire weekend
     starting with Friday pre-qualifying. His day-by-day synopses really show
     you what its like to struggle with traffic on a qual lap, or exactly
     why a driver pulls into the pits( it wasn't really a blown engine, it was
     a failed throttle spring, for instance.) The newsletter includes a 
     picture of the track, complete qualifying times, and the TAG-Heuer-
     Olivetti lap chart for the entire race. Very good stuff. 
	  To get a free issue, call (213)-658-5884. I also requested the intro
     offer of Racer. I hope it is also good. When I get it, I'll post what I
     think. 

						Cory P.
From: aragorn@watnxt04.ucr.edu (Daniel duLuard)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: FOR SALE:  1965 Ford Mustang
Keywords: for sale, mustang
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:23:02 GMT
Reply-To: dduluard@ucrmath.ucr.edu

It is a hardtop with 289v8 and chrome engine kit.  New dash, looks fine inside, 
body in good condition with new paint.  Has original emblems, basically the
car is %90 stock.  Relatively new auto trans.  Looks and runs great!  I need a
car I can commute in.
$4000 obo.
I'm in Hemet, CA.  That's about 40 min from Riverside and San Bernardino.
thanx!
Xref: sparky rec.autos:11048 rec.autos.vw:2309
From: jhamill@bbn.com (John Hamill)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Experience purchasing 1992 VW GTI 16v (long)
Date: 9 Apr 1992 19:26:31 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: jhamill@spcink.bbn.com (John Hamill)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <1992Apr9.144400.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> kpjone01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>Kevin
>
>BTW: I would still take a german car over anything else.

	Me too, although I had a couple of Fiats that were fun to
drive until major parts started falling off them (alternators etc.).

jh

Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: aqn@tivoli.UUCP (Andy Nguyen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Using the horn
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:12:19 GMT
Reply-To: aqn@tivoli.UUCP (Andy Nguyen)
Organization: Tivoli Systems Inc., Austin, TX

mike@gilligan.Sun.COM (Mike Roncadori - Information Resources) writes:
+Here in the New York Virginia (Northern Virginia) area,
+I have noticed that a person at the head of a line of cars
+can sit at a red light for 5 or more seconds, after it has
+changed to green. During this time, nobody will give so much
+as a toot of the horn, and politely ask that he/she move along.
+[ whether it's polite or right to honk;  lamenting that people have
+ no consideration ]

  I have mixed feeling on this.  I do agree that a person should be awake
  and attentive while driving i.e. not do things like ignoring the light,
  hogging the passing lane, etc...  On the other hand, I do not think that
  I am intolerant enough to honk at those less awake than I am, unless I'm
  in a _big_ emergency.

  Also, realistically, even if a person does not move five seconds
  after the light turns green (an eternity!), it would not add that much
  more time to your overall time.  So what if you get to move five seconds
  earlier, only to catch the next red light, and the one after that, and
  the one after that,...  (Assuming that you are not so far back in the line
  that the light turns red before you get there, in which case if you honk
  you ought to be shot,... and have your windscreen cleaned by a street
  person. |-)

  [ Speaking as a fifteen-year NYC city veteran, now enjoying "the life"
  in Austin, TX! ]

-- 
Andy Nguyen / Team Paranoid
(212) 267-7722				...!uunet!tivoli!aqn  OR  aqn@tivoli.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles
From: jks2x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason)
Subject: Re: Female driving stats (Was: Re: Kill Biker....)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec.driving
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:24:27 GMT


>everyone knows that women are better drivers than men.
>i'd like to see a man apply mascara at 60mph.

	Seems to me you have this backwards.  Generally when a woman
is putting on mascara she has to have her hand in front of at least
one of her eyes.  :-)
	Serriously I've read several psychological studies of men's vs 
women's driving abilities and because of physical differences the men 
are better at short range things (like putting the car in the garage) 
while in longer-range things there is no difference.  "What physical 
differences?" you ask.  What makes a human's vision better than that of, 
say, a mouse?  Ours is binocular.  The farther apart the two receivers are 
(eyes, in this case - but it also works for triangulating a position via 
radio) the more accurate the perception.  Men, in general, tend to be 
larger than women, so their eyes are slightly farther apart.  And yes - 
those few milimeters does make a difference.  
	But when looking at distances more than 20 feet the eyes are,
for all intents and purposes, parallel, so the distance between them
doesn't matter.  
	
>
>:-)
>noemi
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>noemi@cs.ucla.edu             KotSBL            '82 kawasaki kz305csr  dod #443
>          6000 miles to ride until NM (Next Motorcycle)
>	  ^^^^ <---- countdown reset!
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

-Jason

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"One day I'll get what's mine through the persistence of time"
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (K. Khan)
Subject: Re: Stereotypical Frustrating Drivers..
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:07:42 GMT


In article <76859.102927005@kcbbs.gen.nz> Philip_Martelli@kcbbs.gen.nz (Philip Martelli) writes:
>I hate to say it, but here in Auckland we have one stereotype you haven't 
>mentioned yet. That's the teenage Korean Female driver..
>...every time I see characters or Chinese lanterns hanging from a rear view
>mirror, it spells out "BEWARE!" to me!

[NOTE: THIS IS NOT A FLAME.]

How did CHINESE lanterns get into your KOREAN stereotype?

Oh, let me guess, they all look alike to you?

I guess that's why they're stereotypes. ;-)

Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos,sci.electronics
From: sykes@pyuxe.uucp (25816-sykes)
Subject: How does photo radar work?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 13:30:52 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos.driving

I am a resident of PA but I work in NJ. NJ is starting these photo
radar traps. Just exactly how does photo radar work? I know that it
takes a picture of you car but does it take a picture of the front
AND rear of the car? In PA they only require one license plate so
if the radar takes a picture of the front of the car I have nothing
to worry about. I don't think that it's that easy though. Also does
it use the Ka band for brodcasting? If so does the gun stay on all the
time? If I have a Ka radar detector then I should be in the clear, right?

I have high enough insurance premiumims now and I don't need any help
making them higher.

Just post the responses because e-mail sometimes doesen't get through.


Thanks,

Michael
From: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: brain damaged drivers
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:11:03 GMT
Reply-To: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.autos.driving, sgccmjw@citec.oz.au (Mark Wilton 23313) writes:
>   Once at night i was driving on the freeway in the rain i was in the
>  fast lane (thats on the right in AUZ) doing 100Km/h (the limit)
>   when really i should have been doing less due to the conditions
>  there was no other traffic except for this bike who was behind me
>   eventually he came round on the left and did a couple of sentences
>   worth of obscene gestures to me and then sped off like a mad man

What the hell were you doing in the fast lane with no other traffic
on the road?  Perhaps you feel that it's your duty to slow other vehicles
when you're not comfortable going any faster yourself.

If it was possible for someone to pass you in one of the slow (outside)
lanes, you were obviously in the wrong.  Nothing is more anoying than
someone who pulls onto a highway, immediately moves over to one of the
inside lanes and just sets the cruise control.  What a no-brainer.
It is also much more dangerous to force others to pass in the slower
lanes.

David Mackintosh
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: schramb@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCHRAM BRIAN K)
Subject: Re: Best Roads in NE? (Nebraska, right?)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:22:11 GMT

The best road in NE (Nebraska, i assume, since NE is the postal
abbreviation)  would have to be I-80.  its long (500 miles)
straight, and takes you right through the flatest part of the
state as quickly and painlessly as possible.  And since they
put the road right through the Platte (indian for flat water) River
Valley, in the summer, you get tons of bug juice on your winshield.
Its truly a driving pleasue.
ok, ok, i'm not a TOTAL moron, i know that in this case, NE stood
for New England, but i couldn't pass up the opportunity to talk
about my beloved native state.

Xref: sparky rec.autos.driving:2453 sci.electronics:8593
From: daveg@prowler.clearpoint.com (Dave Goldblatt)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,sci.electronics
Subject: Valentine One radar detector?
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:45:07 GMT
Reply-To: daveg@prowler.clearpoint.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp, Hopkinton MA 01748


Recently of late I've seen ads for Mike Valentine's (one of the
designers of the original Escort and former president of Cincinnati
Microwave) new company, Valentine Research.  Their new detector looks
intriguing.  Features include:

	o Covers X, K, Ka, and Stalker.
	o Direction indicator (indicates radar forward, on sides, or rear)
	o Number of radar sources (threat indicator.. ;-)

It has forward-looking and rearward-looking antennas, along with the
usual Escort-type bells and whistles.  Looks to be the same size as
the new Escort as well.

Has anyone tried one of these beasts?  The ad "claims" it's better
than `all the other brands.'  Since I've got a DSP Escort, I'm curious
if they back this up.  (haven't gotten a chance to call them yet; the
number is 1-800-331-3030, for those who are interested)

Any info will be greatly appreciated.  I'm always looking for another
edge.. ;-)

-dg-
--
"The people voted me out of office,    |  Dave Goldblatt [daveg@clearpoint.com]
 and now they must be punished."       |  Subsystems Engineering
                                       |  Clearpoint Research Corporation
              - Ed Koch                |  Hopkinton, MA 01748 - (508) 435-7425
From: neilw@informix.com (Neil Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Stereotypical frustrating drivers
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:51:12 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <10326@inews.intel.com> dpeterso@mipos2.UUCP (David Peterson) writes:
>In article <10901@rls.UUCP> randy@rls.UUCP (Randall L. Smith) writes:
>>bill@Celestial.COM (Bill Campbell) writes:
>>> How 'bout the idiot who pulls up to the intersection, waits for
>>> the light to change, then turns on the left turn signal.  For
>>> that matter any person who signals less than a block from where
>>> they're going to turn.
>>
>>Whoa, there pardner.  You're suggesting sitting at an interminable light
>>to leave your turn signal on for the duration of the light is the proper
>>or "non-idiot" thing to do?  Au contrare.
>
>O.K. here's my two pennies worth. 
>	Four lane road, two in each direction, no left turn lane, is legal 
>to turn left, you'r at the head of some traffic approaching an intersection 
>and want to turn left. TURN YOUR DAMN SIGNAL ON!!!!! I _HATE_ people who 
>can't bend their precious finger to tell the world of their intentions. 
>What the *&#% do you think the thing's for? Did you ever think of letting 
>the people behind you have a chance at getting around you? I can't think 
>of how many lights I've been stuck at because of "people" who pulled the 
>no signal bit at a red light. Sorry - pet peve. Flame off.

How about this - many times in this situation, in very light traffic,
I signal way ahead of time.  Now I watch the car behind me, who doesn't
signal.  I approach my turn, stop and wait for an opening, and the
car behind also waits - with nobody in the right hand lane.  After I
make my turn, the guy behind me continues straight, when he had all
the time and notice he needed to pass me on the right.

A zen driver, or someone in a daze?

--Neil
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (jonathan drout)
Subject: Re: Prosecutions For Flashing Headlights
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:22:03 GMT


I don't know about that case but in NJ it is illegal (they cite that
you are inciting a riot).

	My case:

Last summer, driving home at about 1:30-2am I passed a local cop
taking pictures in some bushes.  I flashed the oncoming traffic, one
of whom must have been a fellow officer.  The bush hiding pig streaked
after me and pulled me over.  I told him why I flashed (after 2
excuses :) and he replied (and I quote)

	"That's the attitude we need to eradicate!"
	
He then asked some questions such as where I was going, why so late at
night, where I worked (like that was his business), etc.  Then he
started asking me questions about what speed I thought police begin
issuing tickets at.  By now a second car had pulled up,. all lights
and flasheres on!  SUddenly some emergency came up, b/c both cops
listened to their handhelds, the one yelling at me said to go home and
sleep, and they both jumped in their cars and raced off spinning tires
and blaring sirens.  This was the fourth time in one week I had been
pulled over in that town (not once having broken a law except the
headlight bs) for 'standard checks of cars'.'  I was driving late at
night every time, and my MR2 must be a very suspicious car in such an
affluent neighborhood (Little Silver NJ).

Jonathan Drout 
jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu

Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: bgray@uglz.UVic.CA (Bob  Gray)
Subject: Speeding Fines
Reply-To: bgray@uglz.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 23:29:26 GMT

Just thought that a survey on ticket fines might be interesting.  Here in BC,
the NDP gov't has just hiked the traffic fines to $100 from $75, as well as
excessive speeding (up to $150 from $100).  We also get 3 points on our
license, and if there are 6 or more points, we have to pay an additional 
surcharge - begins ~ $150 and goes waaay up.



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Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving
From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: Re: Slick-50 Motor treatment/oil
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:31:23 GMT

In <1992Apr6.035058.24141@wuecl.wustl.edu> c31002wb@jezebel.wustl.edu (WILLIAM) writes:

>I've been hearing and seeing alot lately about this "Slick-50" motor treatment.
>They claim that it's not a motor oil but more of an engine protector.  
>I was wondering what the various net opinions are about this product.  Has 
>anyone used it?  Did it help?  Could it potentially harm the engine?  I've
>heard it's rather expensive ($50+), is that true?

If you're going to use S-50 in your car, make sure you follow the instructions
to drive your car for about 30 minutes before turning it off. This is supposed
to allow S-50 enough time to reach and circulate inside the engine block,
making itself stick to the moving parts. Otherwise, if you just pour in S-50
and park the car, your just pouring it down to the oil pan where it's going to
stay.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.driving,rec.autos
From: schaffer@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Doug Schaffer)
Subject: Re: ATTN: Canadians! (re: Radar Detectors)
Organization: U. of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 06:00:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.202051.25086@eff.org> peterco@eff.org (Peter A. Cohen) writes:
>Are there any cities or provinces in Canada where use of a radar detector
>is illegal?  My fiancee and I are planning on taking a driving trip this
>summer.

In Alberta, I believe that they are technically not legal, but no one has
gotten a ticket for the past three or four years or so, since a reasonably
high-ranking member of the legislature was pulled over whilst using one:-)

How's that for democracy in action?  The voice of the poeple?   Hmmm.

Anyway, since then, they have become commonplace in electronics stores and
adorn many a dash.  You shouldn't have any problem in Alberta.  Can anyone
else confirm or deny this?

Also, most roads around here, (most of the province) are quite long and 
straignt until you get into the mountains.  Police use more instanct on
on in the middle of nowhere (look for a car on the side of the road not
moving) and in Calgary (and maybe Edmonton??) there are some MultiNova
automatic photoradar guns that are (movable and) attached to the underside
of overpasses on a few of the main higher speed routes.  These are being
challenged in court, since they take a picture of the car and lisense but
not necessarily the driver (is that right?) and a bunch of rental companies
have been getting a pile of tickets!!  As well as the occasional person
who dropped their car off for service (just checkin out that oil change with
a road test!! :-)

Congratulations, and enjoy the trip.

Doug Schaffer, University of Calgary, schaffer@cpsc.ucalgary.ca