From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: Arabic Names
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:22:04 GMT

aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:

>Nabeel, what I said wasn't to upset you.  My intention was
>only to add a little humor in response to your belief that
>you would be careless in raising your children and would
>not be responsible enough - thus your fear in getting married
>and having children.

>I was also saying that I am too disobedient and rebellious
>as a person, but I still retain Islamic belief where
>family values and roles are concerned.  And of course I
>wouldn't want my husband to stay at home and raise my
>children while I went out to work!  But when I become a
>diplomat and Jihad is grown up a little, its your turn
>then, dear.  :-)

   And you are going to use Jihad against his poor father? But
if he is grown up what will his father do at home -- not playing
video games again!
   If you are going to be a diplomat (I am sorry I can't let
my wife play that game,) why don't you call your son "Salam"
or at least "Yassir?"

>> Anyway, I do not share your opinion about being the provider 
>>and I had many a sizzling debate about it with my father.

>But doesn't that contradict with your above statement?

   Nothing I can see.

>I agree with you completely.  I didn't reduce, in any way,
>the role of the man in raising his children or in helping
>the wife.  Maybe when you are a little older you will
>see things differently concerning this.
> 
   Yeah, old people don't care!

>But the men (at least in Syria) get their education first,
>go to the military, and then get married - usually in their
>30's - then they are mature enough and ready for the biggest
>role and responsibility in their lives.  

   In Jordan, national service was not in action all the time
and some kids go to the army before they have to anyway.

>Don't you like challenges? 

   No, I am not a Scorpio, are you? At least I do not like
boring and very risky challenges.

>I would really love to meet your wife in the
>future - boy, would we talk!  :-)

   I don't think your husband will approve :-), a friend of mine
told me that there will be no way that he may let his wife talk
to mine, not even on the phone! As I attempt to "spoil" citizens,
Madame Ghuzlaan will attempt to "spoil" wives! I do not mind,
though!

>No, what do they say about Virgos?  Do you believe in
>astrology?

   Why don't you check a new age shelf? I do not believe in
astrology, I consider it to be statistical information, like
an expected value of a random process.

>You know what they say, practice makes perfect.  Don't
>underestimate yourself, and do the best that you can.  We
>obviously are not perfect as human beings, and there is
>a reason why Allah (SWT) created us like this - to test
>us and to see where our strengths and weaknesses are.  But
>we don't give up trying to improve ourselves either!

   "illee eedo bilmuyyuh ...," it is not your life which you
will be risking.

>Anisa

>That's fine.  As I said before, please do not mistake my
>intentions.  I am not after you, and I certainly hope in
>corresponding with you that I can try to change your
>outlook for your own benefit.  That's what we are hear
>for, but I don't want to pursue it if it makes you feel
>uncomfortable.  What else can I say?

   Do you know what they say about straightening a dog's
tail?

** "^azzaabi *dulluk ^azzaabi 'a*hsanlak *dulluk ^azzaabi,
    btitna"al min *hayy il*hayy w min bowwaabi lbowwabi ..."