HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: FLA video-wall
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Distribution: net
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 02:12:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.144655.8781@uvm.edu> coan@griffin (Brian M Coan) writes:
>Well, I got to see Front Line Assembly in Boston on Saturday night. It
>was only $7.00! That was cool. Awesome show, at least 90min long!
>Anyway, the 4x4 screen video wall was really cool. I was wondering, who
>put that together?

I saw them in Baltimore.  Very neat stuff.  One monitor on the video
wall kept failing though.  Anyone know how they do that?  Digital or
analog?  Inquiring minds want to know!

But, ya know what?  The music was OK for violent, thrashy techno, but
I really couldn't get into it.  The mosh pit was mega-violent, and
after moshing a bit and listening to the violent music, I snuck around
until I found a back room playing happy technorave, and proceeded to
enter the trancelike 150 BPM dancing state.  

I guess I'm just not as young and depressed as I used to be!

-Thomas


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Missi Wilkenfeld)
Subject: Re: 808 TIME BOBMB
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:38:36 GMT

eric@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Eric Lucas) writes:
>
>
>Hey, does anyone know if 808 State's new single 'Time Bomb' has been released
>in the US?  Love that song.  Hopefully they'll release it on CDS with some
>cool mixes.  Thanx in advance.
>
>Eric Lucas

Umm I didn't know it hadn't I have a promo copy here now (the second
they sent us this with the real cover) track listing is..

A. Timebomb (fon mix) 2:56
   Nimbus 4:45
B. Reaper Repo (short mix) 4:23
   Reaper Repo 8:24

On Tommy Boy ofcourse info also said to watch for a DJ tour to major
cities early this fall

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From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua "no relation to Ren" Houk)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Is EBN industrial?
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:39:51 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep11.194224.15064@cs.brown.edu> dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich) writes:
>
>Sounds cool, so I'm going, but is this industrial?  I know there have been
>thousands of posts arguing about who is industrial, and who is a wimp, but
>I don't even know if EBN comes close.  Let me know.
>
>-David V.
> dwv@cs.brown.edu

Who cares? I mean - I'm not flaming you - I'm just saying, hey, if you
like them, you like them. If you think they're industrial, then they're
industrial. If you don't, they aren't. Don't let labels come between you
and music you like...

Then again - if you were just wondering if they were any good - welp,
don' know...

-- 
Joshua Houk || houk@athena.cs.uga.edu
[Co-moderator of the Indie-List - email for info!]
Watch out, I'm really insane.
   - Sentridoh
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: ctorres@cco.caltech.edu (Chon David Torres)
Subject: Re: Music
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 05:30:22 GMT

tzau4@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:

>I used to be a metal head.... Last year bout summertime I was "introduced"
>to alternative and then grappled onto "industrial" starting with NIN
>then Skinny Puppy, Netzer Ebb <sp?>, Sister of Machine Gun, Ministry...
>Who are some other great "hard" industrialist out there like those? Im trying
>to stay away from buying another tape like Einsturzened Neu Bauten
>that is god awful shit.... Clang (10 sec delay) moan (in german or whatever)
>clang glash bang (7 sec delay)...etc...etc... I want the fuzzed rythmetic
>slam to you drop shit.......

yeah i also like "hard" industrial. i *really* hate those poseurs who put
out all those CD's full of clanking metal, random sounds, and other bogus
"industrial" noises. :-)
 
read the FAQ and learn something new,
-chon
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From: aumentad@sal-sun5.usc.edu (Jesus Hates You)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Psychic[k] T.V. - Trouble in Paradise
Date: 14 Sep 1992 16:40:12 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sal-sun5.usc.edu


According to Genesis and Paula,  their residence was raided by British police while they were away on vacation in asia.  anyhow,  their attorney advised them not to return to England under the presumption that the police will arrest them for less than circumstantial evidence (they confiscated the kids' Disney tapes).  After all PTV and TOPY aren't considered the most wholesome of influences on British youth there.

-joe
(aumentad@aludra.usc.edu)
From: matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: flesh comes clean(Ken Ken Heelloo!
Date: 4 Sep 92 22:48:32 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Sep3.212130.94@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu> aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>
>FC9.. Mr.  Chasse your post was ... entertaining (besides being incredibly long
>FC9.. and kinda repetitous).
>FC9.. my capitalization schemes....
>FC9.. I am kinda sick of it anyway, but as you might have noticed I have been
>FC9.. going through a slow withdrawl, and I will try to keep this one
>FC9.. cleaN(oops).  But you have to understand that on my very first post(while
>FC9.. I was still warming up the engines i.e getting the feel of the system)
>FC9.. the capitalization intoto was a Boo Boo,  and the next thing I know is
>FC9.. that there is my name allover the net being blowtorched, whipped, diced
>FC9.. and fileted, every one calling me a MNS wannabe.  Can you possibly imagine
>FC9.. anything worse? I had been accessing and skiming through the net a long 
>FC9.. time before actually posting, and knew exactly what that shit for brain
>FC9.. farting all those stinkbombs from all the way over in Cleaveland was
>FC9.. about all about .  I think the net is like a breather from his self 
>FC9.. manipulation sequences.
>FC9.. any way I think your post was startched stiff with desperate hopelessness
>FC9.. Come on Ken, roots? blues? how long do you think It will take you to get 
>FC9.. burnt out on that(how many 12 bar jerkoffs does it take for a fedup 
>FC9.. canhead to melt? one! trust me I have tried it) your previous posts were 
>FC9.. so rich with hope!  Whatever happened in that short time, Madrigals!
>FC9.. choirs! chants! tribal rythms!(my knees are jello residue).... blues!!!!!
>FC9.. Give a *&^&*#@ break here, right here in the center of my spine.
>FC9.. I think it's time for you take a dose of the good ol' Space Music
>FC9.. (trust me on that one too). Micheal Stearns, Steve Roach, early Vangelis
>FC9.. early early Tangarine Dream.   Noise and celestia,  ecstasy and pain
>FC9.. all rolled into balls of razor lead that rips your guts inside out
>FC9.. as you jerkoff just for the sheer need of violating the sheets and sheets
>FC9.. slowly downpouring tar all around you, smoothering you .  
>FC9.. (did I? maybe  overdo it a wee bit).  You will be back, breaking cans on
>FC9.. your skull in no time.  It will make you apprecite early Swans and NB
>FC9.. and early early early Sonic Youth all over again.
> 
>an offering of love
>from flesh chamber9
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"love, light, peace and razor blades"  Timothy Grossmar
>"Shut the lights, fuck the love and love the razor blades"  Adonidisfigure
>_______________________________________________________________________________
You, sir, are still a pretentious geek.
Grow up.



Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:10490 alt.rap:4523 alt.music.alternative:10448
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rap,alt.music.alternative
Subject: New Meat Beat and Consolidated singles
Date: 15 Sep 92 01:29:58 GMT
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.


      About the whole r.m.i. thread on the new MBM single, I think its quite a
  good progression.  There's a lot more slickness in the production, not as
  subverse as past material, though that BEAT just will NOT get out of my
  head.  We're talking GREAT Radio-Nightclub crossover here.

   I welcome this new single compared to the LAST two, "Now" and "Psyche out"
  which I thought completely diluted the original versions.  I liked "Love
 Mad" and maybe one remix of each of the singles but that's it.

    But check out the lyrics of "Edge of No Control".  Sounds like
  Consolidated to you?   I thought so.



  Speaking of which, I picked up the new Consolidated CD5 called "Tool or Die"
  the same purchase as the MBM single.  This one, however, is an Canadian
  import from Nettwerk.

  Here's the track listing:

     1.Tool or Die (LP)
     2.Tool or Die (Version 1)
     3.Infomodities '92 (Last mix)
    (4.We don't care about your lyrics)
     5.Spirit, Mother, and Nature
    (6.When are you going to be happy?)
    (7.I Like drinking blood)
    (8.Smash the system)
    (9.Get the hell out of the way)

    The ones in parantheses are 20 second concert dialogues.

  Well, the new Consolidated is probably their loudest to date.

  Superlayered noise on top of a fast hard core beat, with the strong
  MBM influence (Jack Dangers mixed these songs as well).  At times it
  has that akinness to Ice-T's _Iceberg_ album in terms of the fast
   staccato synth strikes a la "Lethal Weapon" and "Hit the Deck".
   The song sampled "BANG! 9 automatic!" from Ice-T's "Hunted Child".

  Adam starts to sound more like Chuck D every time.  This song will prove
  it.

  But quite what we expected.   Consolidated and Meat Beat Manifesto are
  slowly becoming each other.

   Not to mention the new Public Enemy single "Hazy shade of criminal" is
   quite a jam.  If you liked the last album, you love this.  NOT to be missed.

                                                                K!z!K
From: rdna@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Paul Paukstelis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: FAQ and band list
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:46:25 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu


Could someone please send me a FAQ as well as the industrial/techno band list
which i've seen float around here a couple times. I've been hired by a local
record store to make out a list of about 150 industrial bands/titles. 25 bucks
for doing something i like :)

--rDNA of MLF
rdna@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: bradleyt@spot.Colorado.EDU (Todd Bradley)
Subject: Re: Industrial in Movies (was Re: Skinny Puppy- Rodent)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:59:20 GMT

In article <BuMAv7.7qE@monitor.com> shawn@monitor.com writes:
>
>Remember not too long ago there was some macho movie about mountain climbing,  
>and the trailer was Front242 music.  I never saw that movie, but I kinda doubt  
>that Front242 did the soundtrack :-)

Also, I remember that the television commercial advertising
the Bruce Willis film "The Last Boyscout" had part of a song
by Front 242 in it.  This was one of the things that attracted
me to the film, but there wasn't any Front 242 sounding music
in the entire film.

Todd.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: excrepts from New Releases
From: aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:53:04 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

I skimmed through the "new", new-release section in r.m.m and thought 
the fellow r.m.i accessors might be interested in the following

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Sep1   Roger Waters         "Amused to Death"
Sep1   Brian Eno            "Nerve Net"
Sep1   SPK                  "Leichenschrei" {UK re-release} 
Sep1   SPK                  "Information Overload Unit" {UK re-release} 
Sep1   SPK                  "Zamia Lehmani" {UK rerelease} 

Sep8   Suzanne Vega         "99.9'F"

Sep15  The Shamen           "Boss Drum"
Sep15  Killing Joke         "Laugh! I nearly bought one."{re-release}
Sep15  David Sylvian        "WeatherBox"{5 cds}  (ex Japan)
Sep15  David J              "Urban Urbane"       (ex Bauhaus, Love & Rockets) 
Sep15  Legendary Pink Dots  "Shadow Weaver"
Sep22  Consolidated         "Play More Music"
Sep22  Shriekback           "Sacred City"

Sep?   Nine Inch Nails      "Broken ep"

Oct1   The Jesus Lizard     "Liar"

Oct6   The Orb              "UF Orb"
Oct6   BiGod 20             "Steel Works"
Oct6   The The              "Dusk"

Oct20  Thomas Dolby         "Astronauts & Heretics"

Oct27  Brian Eno            "The Shutov Assembly"

Oct?   Zoviet France        "Collusion"{UK re-release}
Oct?   Laibach              "Ljubjana, Zagreb, Beogard"{UK re-release}

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

an offering of love
from flesh chamber9
From: pskibitz@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paul F A U S T !! )
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: new Meat Beat Manifesto single
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:32:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

>MBM + divas = uh-oh.

DIVAS!?!?!?!?  PLEASE DONT TELL ME THERES SCREAMING WOMEN SAMPLES
ON THE NEXT MBM!  Could you elaborate on this please?


			-Paul FAUST!



Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: FLA vs NIN
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:59:57 GMT

sherlock@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHERLOCK  JASON ARCHER) writes:

>What about the shit he said about Front Line Assembly in Spin magazine?
> Calling their music "uninspired bullshit."

I seem to remember that Bill Leeb sent a letter to Spin retorting this.  Does
anyone have this issue and can you reprint it for me?
-- 
	"Oh, save me from these pale green pants with nobody inside!"

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
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From: angst@shamrock.ucsb.edu (love)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Test Department
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:27:14 GMT
Organization: Finnigan's Cheezy Combustibles and Lawnmower Emporium

In article <hise.716078088@vincent2.iastate.edu> hise@iastate.edu (Allan R Hise) writes:
>
>I've heard the songs "Fuckhead" and "51st State of America" by, you guessed it,
>Test Dept.  I really enjoyed them, but here in Ames (where the wonderful Iowa
>State University is located) they just don't have any albums by them.  In fact

>Are the two above songs representative of Test Dept in general?  What album are
>they from?  What other albums do they have?  Which ones are best?  WHERE CAN
>I ORDER THEM FROM???  

Both of those songs can be found on The Unacceptable Face of Freedom, which
gets my vote for one of the best albums of all time, industrial or otherwise.

Here is a quick rundown of Test Dept. releases, courtesy of Mason Jones:

    Test Dept|CD|Proven in Action
	The new one -- get it, it's a very good one.
    Test Dept|CD|Pax Brittanica
	Not as percussive, but I like it.
    Test Dept|LP|Shoulder to Shoulder
	Half of it's absolutely superb drumming, the other half is the
	Striking Miner's Chorus.
    Test Dept|CS|Ecstasy Under Duress
	Magnificent old cassette, supposedly due to be reissued.  When it
	appears, buy it!  Live performance.
    Test Dept|CS|Live '85 performance
	This is a very good old one which is still available from V2 Org
	in the Netherlands, I believe.
    Test Dept|CS|Live at the Ritz, NY 7/84
	From Artitude tapes, this one's pretty good.
    Test Dept|LP|Beating the Retreat
	Their first LP, and hopefully due for reissue; excellent noisy
	percussive thing.  A must-own.
    Test Dept|LP|Terra Firma
	Similar to Materia Prima I'd say; good, but not percussion.
    Test Dept|CD|Goddodin
	Some of this is some really cool percussion, but it's calmer.

ObPlug: I (Ear/Rational Music) carry The Unacceptable Face of Freedom as 
well as Proven in Action and a couple of others.  

"You're breathing this fear maybe once a year.	|          Dave Stein
 We suffocate every day."			|       angst@cs.ucsb.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: kevinb@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Kevin Busby)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: death of an rmi membership
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:20:35 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Ken Chase, under the guise of payne@ecf.toronto.edu, wrote:
:
: This probably sounds sappy as hell.
:
: I know I've been one of the main instigators here, but I have gotten around to
: posting some useful information.

In my newsreader today I find 16 new articles from Mr Chase:-

Number of flames and long, rambling PC diatribes: 13
Number of posts containing information of possible interest to rmi: 2
Plus one posting saying he won't read this group any more because the
signal-to-noise ratio is poor.
:-O

To be fair, I didn't read much of his final 14MB posting (I just did a search
for the give-away keyword "bandwidth". It appeared twice, both times in
conjunction with the term "wastage").
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: review: Pankow's Walpurgisnacht
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:33:29 GMT

PANKOW's Walpurgisnacht CD-single (1991 Contempo TEMPODISC 166)
The hunt for this release has taken over a year, but when I finally got it, it
was well worth the time. Walpurgisnacht is a 16 minute piece written for a
performance by Florence Dance Theatre in july 1990. It starts off with a
groovy and repetive rhythm, with sparse synth themes and vocals. After about 8
minutes it suddenly turns into classical music with choir. After a minute or
so, some strange industrial sounds starts, whitch finally developes into the
opening theme again. Epic and groovy, a must for all Pankow fans.
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Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:10332 alt.rave:2983
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rave
Subject: Re: Techno/Rave/Industrial/Garage?  Confusing, man...
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:41:30
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
	<XJAM.92Sep9102806@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU>
	<1992Sep10.101309.11429@corax.udac.uu.se>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE's message of Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:13:09 GMT

>>>>> "Christian" == Christian Bartholdsson <chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE> writes:
>   Christian> Well I certainly don't.  And I don't think the people in the "alternative"
>   Christian> group do either.  'Garage' means Ce Ce Peniston, Adeva,
>   Christian> Clubland, Cathy Dennis, "Shake Your Head" by Was Not Was....
>   Christian> that kind of stuff. 
> 
> That is definitiely *not* garage. Try Mass Order, Ultra Nate', Blaze, and a
> host of other New Jersey/Philadelphia groups and acts. This is from someone
> who does give a shit about garage dance music.

  Christian> Yeah?  Then what would you call the stuff I listed?  Those artists definitely
  Christian> file under 'garage' as far as I know.  Just because I don't give a shit about
  Christian> it doesn't necessarily mean I don't know what it is.

Where I come from that's pop-house, or just straight up club music. Real
garage, as in the distinctive sound of the late Garage nightlub in New
Jersey, almost never trickles off the East Coast of the states anymore. Now
maybe in your part of the world Cathy Dennis qualifies as "garage" house,
but in the states she's a plain old top 40 act.



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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: LISTEN UP, PEOPLE (read this, please)
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:16:26 GMT

In article <Bu6u4u.GxE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, matthew@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep6.192036.955@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:

|> >Hey Stephen. Anyone home? Whether or not you agree with it, the original
|> >post had a point. What was yours? Or did you just feel it was necessary to
|> >remind us all of your existence? 
|> >
|> 
|> Hey Jeff. Anyone home? Whether or not }ou agree with it, the original
|> post had a point. What was yours? Or did you just feel it was nesessary to
|> remind us all of your existance?
|> 
|> mns

Oh, close, Mathew, close. You're getting there. One typo, but you're getting
that mindless repetition thing down quite well.

jds
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez)
Subject: Skinny Puppy lyrics wanted!!!!!!
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:09:19 GMT

Hello,
I am looking for rare Skinny Puppy lyrics, i.e. the ones that aren't enclosed
on the record sleeves. If anyone out there has some lyrics from TPI, Last Rights
etc. PLEASE e-mail me!!!

/fRedrik * b92fdu@bellatrix.tdb.uu.se

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: Assimilation as a positive virtue
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 21:30:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.172128.12696@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, scarruth@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kai'ckul) writes:
|> 
|> BLEAH.
|> 
|> I want the term industrial back...  Mr. Metalhead did do one thing 
|> with his post that was useful, and that was reminding us that the
|> term "industrial" means jack shit anymore.  Going into an industrial
|> newsgroup and holding high the virtues of NIN and slagging Neubauten
|> at the same time is... well, intolerable.
|> 
|> It pisses me off that people just getting into "industrial" think that
|> NIN and Ministry and KMFDM is all there is to "industrial".  Just as it
|> pisses me off that  "alternative" wannabes think that Soundgarden and
|> Pearl Jam are all there is to "alternative".

                         [more of the same deleted]

Hmmm...now where have I heard this before?

jds