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From: edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Magic's reappearing act
Date: 5 Oct 92 06:41:20 GMT
Reply-To: edrury@.UUCP (Ed Drury)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Garden Lane Software

In article <6830@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.141555.4058@newstand.syr.edu> bewillia@mothra.syr.EDU (Col. Devon McKnight) writes:

>mmmh... Some of the things claimed on this net....
>0.7 ppg *7games= 4.9 pts total....

 Well if he scored 5 points in seven games his average would be 0.71 which
is pretty damn close to 0.7. As an exercise, how many assists did he have?

>
>Makala


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From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: What the hell happend to the CAP! (Re: Magic signs $14.6M)
Date: 4 Oct 92 20:43:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.38988
Organization: University of California, San Diego

I would most appreciate it if anybody could provide a copy of the
rules governing the salary cap.  This is getting very interesting.

Tony
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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Shaquille/Sampson
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 17:49:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.142150.26663@ncar.ucar.edu> grubin@virga.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin) writes:
>
>
>kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers) writes:
>>Everyone has question marks coming out of college. Here is a list for
>>centers:
>>Moses Malone: no college prep, (believe it or not) too thin
>
>Believe it.  Did you ever see Malone play in the ABA's last days, or
>even see pictures of him playing with the Spirits of St. Louis?  He
>was a stick.  As an 18-year-old from Virginia, Moses was not the hulk
>he was later in his career.
			.
			.
			.
Nor was he even the center, right?
Who *were* the centers (for St.
Louis and Utah?) when Moses played
forward?
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From: pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Magic's reappearing act
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:02:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Oct2.141555.4058@newstand.syr.edu> bewillia@mothra.syr.EDU (Col. Devon McKnight) writes:
>
>	So did Bob Cousy, who, for some ungodly reason, decided to un-retire
>and play the point for the Cincinatti Royals, whom he was coaching.  He 
>averaged a sparkling 0.7 points, and 1.4 assists in 7 games.
>>Russ Smith


mmmh... Some of the things claimed on this net....
0.7 ppg *7games= 4.9 pts total....

Makala
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: My reply to a "different" opinion
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:34:33 GMT
Reply-To: jblixt@mips.COM (Jon Blixt)
Organization: People fed up with politicians, not politics

I would also like to thank Jazzy and Micheal for their rebuttal of
some of the hottest air remarks this side of the jetstream.

To say one of the greatest basketball players of all time does not
deserve nor fit into the NBA is simply ludicrous.

One comment on the new contract.  Why doesn't Jerry Buss just publically
announce he will award Magic a check for the 14.6 million after he
retires?  Then we won't have to be subjected to the endlessly CAP ranting
and raving.

-Jon

Magic's back and if this brings back unpleasant memories from games past. Tough
From: wp01jst1@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (John Tomas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bulls v. Knicks -- Who will win?
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:50:25 GMT


I am not really interested in answering this question: the season will
come around soon enough and we will see what we will see.  
However, I have thought about the new Knicks squad and if I were I 
Knicks fan I would be deeply disturbed by what I see.  First of all,
the Knicks starting guards average comfortably over 30 years old.
Moreover they are backed up by players who are unreliable at best:
Greg Anthony who could not displace Mark Jackson last year and John
Starks who shoots the ball well but has no defense.  If Doc goes down
you are left with Greg Anthony handling the point.  If he doesn't go
down you are left with two players who are entering the back-up stages
of their career as your guards.  They may have another year left; they
may not.

The second problematic position is Forward: will they start Tony 
Campbell and Charles Smith?  If they do look out for a very high number
of points scored.  I saw a lot of Charles Smith last year on the Clippers, and there are some pretty predictable things to say about him.
1) He cannot play facing the basket; he cannot put the ball on the floor
2) Nothwithstanding his shot-blocking, he is a terrible defensive player
3) He does not get tough rebounds; he is not a good rebounder in 
general
4) He is a poor passer; if double-teamed he is unlikely to find the
open man.

This package adds up to trouble: trouble for Patrick Ewing, who will 
have to switch to PF (remember how much of a success that was under
Hubie Brown?), trouble for the guards who will not get the ball in
position to shoot.
If Riley plays him at SF and starts Oakley at PF, they will have similar
problems: where does Patrick play?  How in the world will Smith cover
quick, small forwards?

None of these problems are insoluable, but there are so many potential
problems that it wouldn't suprise me at all to see the Knicks flounder
next year.  But if anybody can solve the problems, it should be Pat
Riley.

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Hornets stirring
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:47:10 GMT

dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:
>>- J.R. Reid (will this guy ever produce?)

>I think the bigger question is why Shinn bothered with him in the '89 draft 
>when Stacey King was availible.

	Well, King hasn't exactly shone in Chicago either -- but JR Reid
	was that "home-town" pick, having gone to UNC and all.  And, at
	the time, he didn't show any less promise than King.  Who's to
	say Stacey would have done it on the Hornets...

	Jazzy J
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From: roy@ecgcurly.UUCP (ecghub   Roy Kern)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Heat Trade Speculation
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:28:04 GMT
Organization: Motorola Cellular Cad Group

In article <1992Sep28.034836.37911@uvmark.uucp>, davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
> You know, it is funny, but I haven't heard nor seen squat from Ed in quite
> awhile.  In fact, ever since the end of our last argument.  As to your

Don't look a gift horse in the mouth.

Roy.
roy@mot.com
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: WEEKLY POSTING: Data available for public FTP
Originator: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Las Hermanas de Nuestra Senora de los Pepinares
Distribution: net
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 09:00:10 GMT

There is a bunch of NBA and NFL data -- stats, records, game scores,
schedules, etc (INCLUDING 1992/93 schedules!) -- available for public
FTP on wuarchive.wustl.edu.  (Also known as ftp.wustl.edu, internet
address 128.252.135.4).  You can access the data through anonymous FTP.
To do so, type:
	ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu
and then enter "anonymous" as the user-id, and your e-mail address
as the password.  Once in there, switch to the directory of your
choice.  The NFL stuff is in the directory
	/pub/nfl
and the NBA stuff is in
	/doc/misc/nbastats/facts
Both directories contain a README file, which will tell you more
about the available data.

The details of the FTP program may be system-dependent.  If in
doubt, consult your system administrators.  (But don't bother
asking me -- I probably don't know.)

Enjoy!

					Gidi


PS:  Lots of thanks to Washington University at St. Louis.

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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Subject: Re: Magic un-retires
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 14:05:58 GMT

of course, now, the right thing to do is to have Larry Bird's number
hoisting on Jan.31 when the Lakers are in Boston, so that Magic can
be there for the ceremony.  how strange life is....

- nate
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From: prabu@cs.utexas.edu (Prabu Muthu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Fantasy League openings
Date: 28 Sep 1992 09:19:41 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: sage.cs.utexas.edu

Is anyone else out there planning on running a fantasy basketball league of 
some sort?  I was really looking forward to joining one (not for any $$, but
for the fun of it), but it looks like the only one I've seen advertised on
here so far is already filled up.

I've never been in a league over Internet before, but I have been in one 
fantasy (baseball) league before.  If anyone *is* running one and needs
at least one more owner, please mail me at prabu@cs.utexas.edu.

Thanks a bunch,
Prabu
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: My own thoughts
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:34:35 GMT

skprimus@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Siu Kai Ho) writes:

>        Could someone please post me the name of the song played during
>player introductions in Chicago and who sings it? TIA

	I can't remember the name of the song, but it's by the Alan Parson's
	Project, and it's on their Eye of the Sky CD, the 1st track.
	After all the instrumental part, it leads into the song "Eye of the
	Sky" which was a big hit of theirs in 1982.

	Jazzy J
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From: freshlt@pell1l23.alleg.edu (Timothy Freshly)
Subject: Re: My reply to a "different" opinion
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:30:08 GMT

In article <BvJ4Kw.E6K@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy  
J ) writes:
>  (long discussion ommitted)

> 	Magic Johnson overrated?  The ledger:
> 
> 		High School Champion
> 		McDonald's All-American
> 		NCAA Championship
> 		Unanimous NCAA All-American
> 		<<5>> NBA Titles
> 		<<3>> NBA MVP Awards
> 		NBA All-time Assist Leader
> 		Future Hall-of-Famer (unanimous)
> 		...
> 		...
> 	
> 		a winner.
> 		--------
> 	Jazzy J
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Jazzy,

	Thanks for a good post on Magic.   Although I'm no Laker fan  
(CAVS!), you did an excellent job recounting why Magic was/is such a great  
player.  Two additions to your list of Magic's accomplishments:
			NBA All-Star MVP
			numerous (exact # ???) All-Star appearances

		Tim
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Gaze in the NBA?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:18:21 GMT

guillory@crhc.uiuc.edu (Stanford Guillory) writes:

>>Kinda like when you play against your little brother and are able to crush
>>him 15 - 0 every game and then you go to the park and get your butt whipped
>>by some REAL ball players.

>YEAH!!! And also kinda like going to some nothing NAIA school like Arkansas
>State and whooping ass there and expecting to do it in the NBA! Like that
>Scottie Pippen character! Never mind.

	Hold on a second here... don't U know anything about Scottie Pippen's
	basketball history?  Pippen was a basketball NOBODY out of high
	school.  Nobody had recruited him -- heck, nobody even heard of him!
	He walked on at Central Arkansas -- and developed into a great player.
	Even on draft day, nobody knew who the hell he was when Seattle
	drafted him #5.  It's not like Scottie was a Parade All-American who
	went to a school just to dominate -- Scottie was the guy who came
	out of nowhere.

	Jazzy J
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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Atlantic Div. stuff (was What about Nique?)
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:58:24 GMT

In article <92280.153852IO11087@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> <IO11087@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:

>Like I said before, I am a hard-core C's fan.  It will be interesting
>to see how the team will react to the absense of Bird.  I would like to
>think that they would handle it like they did during the last 20 or so
>games last year, and several games into the post-season.  I hope McDaniel
>will work out, but that is up in the air.  He is definately an above
>average player.  We'll have to wait and see...

I think the addition of the X-man really helps the Celts at this point. They
have a pretty tough frontline now with Parish, McHale, X, Pinckey, Fox, et al.
Plus Dee Brown and Reggie Lewis can hoop with the best of 'em.  I'm more
anxious to see how they handle Sherman Douglas. (can they get a lottery pick
out of him?)

>Is it just me, or does it seem that the NBA summer break lasts forever?
>I can't wait for the tip-off of the 92-93 season.  I usually watch baseball
>during the summer to tide me over, but I am(was) a Red Sox fan.  Needless
>to say, this was not a baseball summer 4 me.  I didn't know the season was
>even over yet until I read in the paper this morning that the playoffs
>begin 2day.  BFD.

Well, I'm a Pirates fan, and I can sympathize. I cheered for 'em in the
days of Kurt Bevacqua and Jason Thompson when they were 30 games out and
too high on coke to notice. Of course, I'm a little happier now. :)

>Although I HATE the Knicks, I think if they gel together
>this year, they have the ingredients for a team that can go way into the
>playoffs.  Hopefully, there will be a chemistry problem, but that is highly
>unlikely with their great coach, Pat Riley.  I always thought he was over-
>rated until I saw what he did with NY last year.

The Knicks will win the Atlantic. Period. Sorry, Boston fans.



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From: marzano@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Lou Marzano)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Pervis- "never nervous", or just, "out of service" ???
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:18:18 GMT
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.


I believe you were going to say something about Pervis?

- Lou Marzano
  lou@hpams0c.ptp.hp.com
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From: bewillia@mothra.syr.EDU (Col. Devon McKnight)
Subject: Re: Magic's reappearing act
Organization: Syracuse University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 01:59:34 EDT

Brian  = Brian E. Saunders
Mweene = Paul M Mweene
Devon  = Col. Devon McKnight (me!)

Devon>	   So did Bob Cousy, who, for some ungodly reason, decided to un-retire
Devon>and play the point for the Cincinatti Royals, whom he was coaching.  He 
Devon>averaged a sparkling 0.7 points, and 1.4 assists in 7 games.

Mweene>mmmh... Some of the things claimed on this net....
Mweene>0.7 ppg *7games= 4.9 pts total....

Brian>I can't even describe how poor of an attempt at humor I think this is.
Brian>Let's say Bob Cousy had an average of 0.714285714 (to 9 significant
Brian>figures).  Now are you happy?  Eeeegads!

	Boy, Brian, c'mon... where'd you take your maths?  0.7142851714 ppg 
times 7 games = 4.99999998 points total...

	< Insert smileys liberally here >

			- Dev
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From: trump@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Jason Lewis)
Subject: Re: Pervis- "never nervous", or just, "out of service" ???
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 22:28:18 GMT

From what I've heard recently, his knees are mostly a mess of liquid and bone
chips.  The man may never play again.  Dump him if you got him in a fantasy
league or something.

- Mike Lewis

(P.S.  This was posted mostly because I'm bitter about having traded Pervis
to the person who wrote the previous post for Dominique the same week 'Nique's
tendon popped.  Hoestly, I think he's in good shape now, just a bit rickety.)

(P.P.S. Worried you, didn't I, Lou?)
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From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Subject: Re: pervis ellison
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:38:32 GMT

In article <BvIG9J.4p2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>
>	Hmm...  what's Michael Adams?  For a guy who has numerous 3-pt
>	shooting records, I'd consider him an outside threat.  And, if
>	Rex Chapman can get his act together, he'll be an outside threat as
>	well.  Brent Price will certainly shoot his share.  I'd say the
>	Bullets have a decent amount of outside shooting...

Yeah, they can both shoot the three...they can both miss it too.  Both Adams
and Chapman have lifetime memberships to the NBA Bricklayers' club.  Adams
keeps shooting 40%, and Chapman not much more.  Adams has some three point
records, but no one puts it up more.  His % was below 30% from three point
range, which kind of sucks for someone putting it up that much.

Some of Adams decline after the all-star game can be attributed to injury,
but the Bullets' perimeter game is really suspect if you're trying to count
on these two.

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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Is Magic greedy/selfish?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:10:33 GMT

Y'all can flame me if you have a mind to, but if my son decides to play
a contact sport when he grows up (i.e.,  a sport where physical contact
can cause cuts and abrasions such that blood,  not to mention perspira-
tion and saliva, can be exchanged), I want the players in his league to
be tested for AIDS and I *WON'T* want HIV positive kids playing with my
son.  Hear me now, I am not calling for quarantine or for denial of em-
ployment in non-evasive capacities.  But, I *AM* calling for reasonable
protection for those who must come in contact with AIDS patients. If I,
God forbid, were to contract AIDS, I would take it as my responsibility
to take every possible precaution to  not put any other person at risk.

PS, Question, you are sitting in the front row of an NBA game involving
    the Lakers,  and Magic Johnson is heading for you,  chasing a loose
    ball.  What do you do?
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From: wyattw@loowit.wr.tek.com (Wyatt Webb;6291592;92-835)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: 1992-1993 NBA.C PROGRAM IS HERE!
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:09:00 GMT
	<1992Sep25.023451.11454@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>
Organization: Tektronix - Instrument Controllers and Software
In-reply-to: adem1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz's message of 25 Sep 92 02:34:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.023451.11454@cs.aukuni.ac.nz> adem1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Adam Edward         Demeter        ) writes:

  Good to see some practical input to play with in this news group, keep it up!
   Adam.



Amen!!  Thanks for one of the most simple, but useful pieces of software
I have!!  Way to go!

Later,

	-Wyatt
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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Heat Trade Speculation
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:45:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: NeoSoft.1992Sep29.124521.16150
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In article <1992Sep28.034836.37911@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
			.
			.
			.
>>  This week's Lor Challenge:
>>
>>  I have the impression that Ewing and Robinson routinely
>>stomp Ewing in direct matchups.  Do the records bear me out?
>>
>>Tom Hyer
>
>You know, it is funny, but I haven't heard nor seen squat from Ed in quite
>awhile.  In fact, ever since the end of our last argument.  As to your
			.
			.
			.
He did post about ten days ago a polite correction
to my severely garbled recollection of the Sonics-
Lakers playoff war between Showtime and the
Chambers-Ellis-McDaniel connection.
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