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From: braindl@uhura.aston.ac.uk (David Brain)
Subject: Re: Fuck nicotine
Organization: Aston University
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:04:02 GMT

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: x3120gld@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Bong materials
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:50:39 GMT
Reply-To: x3120gld@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA


     Someone once told me that it is not healthy to use PVC in water pipes.  He
did not know exactly why, and I haven't been able to confirm it elsewhere.  Is
this rumor true?  Are they any other materials one should watch out for? 
Please mention your sources, if possible.
							Thanks,
							Brent
From: oseiler@nyx.cs.du.edu (Oliver Seiler)
Subject: Re: fun while tripping
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 22:48:56 GMT


Hmm, all this talk about things *not* to do on acid reminds me of the time
that I went and saw a double-bill of Jack Nicholson (sp?): Batman and The
Shining... on a quad (if I remember) of really good blotter... It was
incredible! I'd never seen The Shining all the way through.. cool! (But
then again I am kinda warped...

-Oliver
From: szikopou@superior.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: morphine/heroin question
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:41:31 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <9301271452.AA00669@hdsc-calm.ssc.af.mil.hdsc.ssc.af.mil> ccarroll@hdsc-calm.ssc.af.mil (Chris Carroll) writes:


>Could someone email me with info or stats concerning morphine?

>Are morphine and heroin the same thing, what are the differences,
>similarities, etc.

>Thanx, 
>cHris

They both fall under the same class of drugs--they are both opiod
agonists.

I believe heroin is more powerful than morphine because it can enter
the brain more easiy than morphine and actually get metabolized into
morhpine (not sure about the last one...I may be thinking of codiene
which falls under the same class)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bbe001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Robitussin
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:27:43 GMT

In article <C1Bpn5.Do8@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, domnatr@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kane) writes:
> I have a lot of friends who take this (in 4 to 6 oz doses)
> And I have compiled this data from them --
> 
> 1>  The 'trip' combines some of the mellow feelings from MJ
>     and a lot of the physical disorientation of alcohol
> 
> 2>  It typically lasts about 8 or 9 hrs (not surprising
>     considering the time a normal dose keeps you well)
> 
> 3>  Physical motion (of any sort) is really drawn out and
>     enjoyable [all the users I've talked to agree on this]
> 
> 4>  There is only a slight physical weariness associated
>     the next day, a little less severe than that occurring
>     after a trip.
> 
> I haven't tried this myself as I'm pretty sure it would
> taste awful... however I've seen it enough now to attest
> to its effectiveness.  Everybody here calls it 'robin'
> as in, "It's only Robin', man", and, if it's any good, 
> I would dare say it's a pretty economical alternative...
> 
> The Robitussin has to be the DM variety however...
> (dimethyl...bromine is the active ingredient... just look
> on the back of the bottle) 
> 
> From what I hear, the DMB (I'll settle for calling it that
> for now) acts as a substrate, collecting on the surface of
> the brain (much like alcohol does, now that I think about
> it) and subtly altering the pathways of synaptic transmissions
> going across the affected area(s), which often include
> optical and audial perceptory centers and motion-control
> functions.  
> 
> As an aside, I've also heard that lysergic acid diethylamine
> works in much the same way, but is caustic (read:  poisonous
> and/or corrosive) to the cells involved, and that after a
> good many uses (I dunno, maybe 50 or 100) you will begin to
> lose the pertinent brain functions at an exponential rate as
> the number of afflicted cells (unable to receive transmissions)
> grows steadily, thus altering more transmissions.  But that is
> by no means officially documentable information... just
> something to think about.
> 
> But this Robitussin DM thing bears some discussion.
> And for $3 a trip, how can you lose?
> 
> _________________
> 
> Comments welcome via email or post --
> 
> Kane
> domnatr@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
> 
> _________________ 

Yeah I had some friends who did "Robo," that's what we called it. It was very
economical for them cause they'd just go into the supermarket and steal a few
8 ouncers. I never did it cause it almost seemed as pathetic as sniffing glue
to me, no offense to any glue-sniffers out there. In my mind it kind of seemed
like a fuck-up kind of drug, doesn't get you anywhere you know? Like with weed,
you can do great stuff, think great stuff, and get a grip on things. Or I guess
you can sit around and watch TV too, it's all up to how you use it. In any
case, my only suggestion to those who want to "Tussen out,"(yes we called it
that too) don't expect to do anything but sit on the couch moaning how fucked
up you are. Have fun.

brad

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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Save a tree, grow some dope ;-)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:22:56 GMT

jt_rask@pavo.concordia.ca (RASKU, JASON T.) writes:

: and nicotine also).  Oh well so we all know how STUPID governments are in 
: general.  Of course they have produced some decent thought over the years 
: but GENERALY they aren't know for being too bright.  Could be the comitty 
: theory "Nothing gets done when a comitty is set up to do it".

Think a minute. There would be a tremendous number of people out of a job,
and a huge bureaucracy to dismantle, if the WOD/WOT were terminated. It
would also eliminate one of the prime methods for slowly removing individual
rights.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: nwoodard@dante.nmsu.edu (WOODARD)
Subject: YOU FUCKERS
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:21:49 GMT

I am getting sick of hearing all you druggies encouring kids to use
drugs. Its bad enough that you are using crack and heroin, cousting us
honest taxpayers billions in crime and medicine. But you want to ruin
the future of our kids as well!

There is obviously one solution to you drug f**kups. We need to throw
anyone caught using drugs out of the country. Revoke all citizenship,
and forbid one step back into this country. If you do return, punish
by death. (Lethal injection - how appropriate)

This country is going to hell. And it is all you f**kers fault!



Drug Free and PROUD of it.
From: hemlock@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Monolithic Mind of Madness)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Smart drugs
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:56:42 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
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Somebody was asking about taking phenylalanine for alertness, and
somebody else suggested using tyrosine instead, it being one step
closer to dopamine/noradrenaline.

First, I don't think the sole product of phenylalanine is going to be
tyrosine.  Phenylalanine seems to be active in lower doses and it seems
to have a slightly different effect.

What I'd like to know is, is it plausible that phenylalanine will be 
converted into something other than tyrosine (and then DA, noradrenaline,
and adrenaline)?  Would phenylalanine be at least partly converted to
phenylethylamines in the brain?  (Those are psychedelic amphetamines 
I believe.)  

Would anyone like to clarify this?

I'd also like to note that when I was taking a lot of phenylalanine I 
did have 'more energy' but my sleep seemed to be less restful, so one
should take that into consideration.  These days I only use it when by
circumstance I can't get enough sleep the night before.




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human...Why have we not yet acquired this insight in relation to the world
of the free will?  Because outwardly we are the masters of madness, because
the insane are violated by us, and we hinder them from living according to
their ethical laws...Now we must endeavor to overcome the dead point in our
relationship to insanity."       --Wieland Herzfelde, 1914
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dstalder@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Darren/Torin/Who ever...)
Subject: Re: MDMA and mushrooms
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:57:37 GMT

Stefo (an7592@anon.penet.fi) spoke out onto the net and said:
>I wonder if any research has been done on MDMA vs. psylocibin.  MDMA is known
>to be neurotoxic -- perhaps the similar effects of these drugs also
>means similar side-effects such as toxicity.

MDMA is *NOT* known to be neurotoxic.  An experiment was done by Ricarte on
rats that caused lowered serotonin levels but that study was questioned. A
similar study was done by Peroutka showed no difference.  Ricarte did another
study on primates.  There was no evidence of neurotoxicity.  MDMA is
sometimes confused with MTTP/MPTP which causes a condition similar to
Parkinson's disease.  The drugs are unrelated.

MDMA is being used in Switzerland by trained physicians on patients for
various conditions.  I quote Dr. Samuel Widmer, the admistrator of the
project, as saying "In our work with MDMA in psychotherapy so far, we have
not observed any negative effects, either of a psychological or physical
kind."  as well as saying: "The suspicion of possible toxicity to the nervous
system, which had been considered a possible side effect of MDMA, was not
substantiated by our use of a therapeutic dosage of this substance."

Again, MDMA is *NOT* neurotoxic.
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From: aldis@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 19 Jan 93 21:44 EST
Subject: Need to find Peter Stafford
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Nf-From: peg.UUCP!aldis    Jan 19 21:44:00 1993


I am trying to get in touch with Peter Stafford, the author of
the _Psychedelics Encyclopedia_, before the end of the week.

An Australian documentary filmmaker has managed to get a
big producer here interested in a TV documentary about
cannabis prohibition.  She now needs to demonstrate the
feasibility of finding archival material about the origins of
hemp prohibition in the US.  The kind of material used by
Stafford to illustrate earlier editions of the Encyclopedia
would be ideal for this purpose.

The filmmaker will be visiting the US about two weeks from
now, and I would like to arrange for her to meet Peter
Stafford while she's there.  She's leaving Australia on
Monday, so I need to contact him in a hurry.

I would be very grateful for any email which might assist in
contacting him - a phone number would be ideal because of the
short time I have.  Thanks in advance for any help.

Aldis Ozols
Sydney, Australia
aldis@peg.apc.org   aldis@kralizec.zeta.org.au
From: nimrod@nforest.pulp.nullnet.fi (Jukka Airaksinen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Valerian root...a legit. sedative?
Keywords: valerian root sedative
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 23:06:52 EET
Distribution: world
Organization: bad moon rising

oseiler@nyx.cs.du.edu (Oliver Seiler) writes:
> Well, a friend of mine brought some over one night, and he and my roommate
> tried taking quite a bit of it (along with various other substances, all
> legal) and she loved it... Very relaxing...

        Some months ago I bought 30 x 150mg tablets of valerian root.
        (we can buy it in Finland without prescription or anything
        for a cost of about 20mk (4$)). First I tried it with small
        amouts like 150-300mg. Well, got bored because of too slight
        efects. I also tried crushing the tablets for better/faster
        efects - nothing. Finally, with a 900mg dosage I felt myself
        really tired. Afterall it is a tranquillizer, with pretty
        shit effects... Blaah.. How can someone feel relaxed after
        taking such shit, I wonder.. ?!

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Subject: Re: Marijuana/asthma
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:28:42 GMT

In article <amywoman.727853221@camelot> amywoman@camelot.bradley.edu (Amy Harris) writes:
>In <1993Jan22.183151.3377@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson) writes:
>
>>to avoid the nasties of smoke, you can always also eat it (brownies or 
>>something).  of course, eating takes quite a bit longer for the THC to get
>>into your bloodstream.  
>
>But isn't it the fact that you smoke it and inhale it into your lungs the 
>reason why *smoking* marijuana helps asthma?
>Doesn't seem like it would have the same effect if you just ate it, even
>though the THC would enter your bloodstream.

I don't have my references handy, but I do believe that it's the THC in the
bloodstream that works against asthma attacks.  Smoking is just a quicker
route of administration, while eating could take ~30 minutes.

-marc
andersom@spot.colorado.edu


Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.privacy,misc.jobs.misc
From: "amy lynn young-leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Job ad from Computerworld - want SSN/drug test
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:47:21 -0500

In article <C16Ct6.EKC@cmptrc.lonestar.org> neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>In article <1jk591INN96s@tamsun.tamu.edu> bell@cs.tamu.edu (Will Bell) writes:
>>Guesses:
>>1.  They have never had to deal with a legion of people who demand privacy
>>    and refuse to give out their ssn, and they didn't know any better.
>>2.  They are entering some or all of your information into a database keyed
>>    to the SSN, and can't be bothered with generating an alternate ID number.
>>3.  They are screening for employment eligibility -- if you don't have a SSN
>>    then you can't work.  (This isn't necessarily true, right?)
>>4.  THey are flat-out stupid.
>  5. So they can check as many databases as they can weasel their way into
>    (i.e. medical records, school records, criminal records, you name it)
>    for which your SSN might have been used as the search key (most universities
>    use the SSN as the student ID number too, so that way they can call your
>    alma mater's registrar's office and give both your name and SSN for a
>    speedier way to see if you really did earn the degree you claimed in your
>    resume).

6.  They don't *want* to hire the type of person who might demand the
right to privacy by not openly giving social security number,
submitting to numerous privacy invading test before even interviewing.
It's so much easier to keep the herd that way.

amy
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From: bierbach@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Narcotics Anonymous = a cult?
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:46:56 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

A friend of mine got busted for possession of marijuana last summer in 
Pennsylvania. The good news was, it happened a week before his 18th 
birthday, and so he went through the juvenile system. Because he was a 
first-time offender, they told him that he would not have to go to 
court or get sentenced or anything on the condition that he go to 3 
Narcotics Anonymous meetings and give them the slips proving he was 
there, which he did. He invited me along to one of the meetings, which 
I didn't mind, since I got to sit around chain-smoking like the rest 
of the people there and listening to someone tell his tale of woe and 
"How Drugs Ruined My Life", etc. Now, I am entirely convinced that NA 
is effective in helping people, but the one thing that really 
disturbed me about the whole thing is how it occurred to me afterwards 
how frighteningly cult-like NA is. I heard people standing up and 
saying things along the lines of "Now I have been clean for six 
months, and I go to three different NA meetings every day of the week, 
and I have met the best people here, which is why I avoid anyone who 
is not NA because they might lead me back down the path to addiction," 
etc. etc. (slightly exaggerated to make a point) 
	Has anyone else with any experience with NA ever had the same 
suspicions about it that I seem to have?

-- 
Jeremy Bierbach                                          Georgetown University

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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Crystal Meth____?
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:18:04 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1993Jan27.150024.2153@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> jdiorio@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>I'm hoping someone can clear up some terminology problems for me.
>
>My Question:
>	Is "crystal meth" the same as "crystal methadrone" and if 
>so... is it at all related to Methamphetamines?

    "Methadrone"...hmm...do you mean methedrine or methadone?  If the
former, which I suspect is the case, read Eric's answer.  If the latter,
they're unrelated.
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From: fr_piap@works.uucp (frater piap)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: drug tests/probation
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 01:06:05 EST
Organization: The Works BBS - Informational Archives - Est. 1985

wondering if anyone can give me information on the DT used when under 
probation.. the case i am referring to is not a drug related offense but 
3rd degree felony.  this person may or maynot receive a DT.  if so can 
anyone suggest any means by which to cause test come up negative.  this 
person has smoked a joint 1 week prior to possible drug testing.  

also does anyone know of herbs that will really aid blood to 
clense/banish drugs from system?  i heard red-clover would.  any others 
or comments on it?  

anyone with any information please leave me email.. and/or post msg.

thanks..
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: msm@vpnet.chi.il.us (Matthew S. Minogue)
Subject: Re: Scraping a pipe
Organization: Silver Twilight
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:53:58 GMT

In article <loydb.0akp@fnordbox.UUCP> loydb@fnordbox.UUCP (Loyd Blankenship) writes:
>In article <1993Jan17.074621.21411@fuug.fi> an6452@anon.penet.fi writes:
>> A FOAF has a pipe he uses for certain activities.  I've heard
>> that you must "scrape" the pipe or something, to get a resin
>> ball which is supposed to be very powerful.
>>
>> Could someone please give me info for my friend on how to do
>> this and how to use the resin, etc.  Any help would be great,
>> such as how often to do this.
>
>My friend Fluffy does it roughly every other time he uses his pipe. He
>scrapes it into a small glass vial, and then smokes it when it gets full.
>My friend Fluffy says that this is almost as strong as hash.
>
>Fluffy's friend Loyd
>

The concept behind scraping the pipe is that when you burn grass the smoke
will congeal within the pipe, leaving behind tarry deposits like cresote
that contain carcinogens and thc - burning smoke on a bed of resin is 
preferable, so only scrape the actual bowl lightly. Since the pipe may 
become clogged if you do not clean it, this gives you a good excuse to 
reuse the extra resin in the aforementioned manner. Resin smoke is a lot
harder on the lungs than fresh bud, however. Take it easy.
From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: No Drug Tests for White House
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:04:32 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In article <1301300242@igc.apc.org> Institute for Hemp <insthemp@igc.apc.org> writes:
>
>DRUG TESTS FOR SENIOR WHITE HOUSE STAFFERS PUT OFF UNTIL FEBRUARY
>15 WASHINGTON (JAN. 22) UPI - Drug tests for senior White House
>staff members have been put off until Feb. 15 for "administrative
>reasons," President Clinton's spokewoman said Friday.
	For "administrative reasons"?  Don't be silly, they want 
	them to have a chance to flush those nasty metabolites
	out of their systems.  Who do they think they are kidding?
	What they should do is just do the right thing and can the stupid 
	policy.  It is merely an artifact of the RightWingReligiousNutCase
	crowd that ran this country for 12 years.


>Press secretary Dee Dee Myers confirmed The Washington Times
>report that drug testing rules for top ranking White House
>personnel have been waived for a month to permit the aides to get
>settled in their jobs.
	Right. ;-)

>The urine tests, ordered first in the Reagan administration and
>continued in the Bush White House, were to determine whether there
>was any involvement in cocaine, marijuana or other drugs.
	Why don't they just do the right thing and repudiate the
	fascist policies of the Reagan and Bush years?  

>Meantime, Rep. Joe Barton, R-Texas, called on Clinton Friday to
>direct his senior staff to immediately submit to drug tests "to
>clear up the issue."
	Not surprised.  Most Texas Republicans are mutant life-forms
	that take their sustenence by bottom feeding with the religious right.
	Joe's just making sure that his pharisee butt is "right with
	god" and the half-wit, pharisee, pseudo-christians that put him 
	where he is today.  Jesus would puke if he could see some of the
	hateful half-wits that soil his name today.

>"If they have nothing to hide it won't matter and if they do, they
>shouldn't serve," Barton said.
	Ah yes, the old "if you have nothing to hide" gambit.  Makes
	a nice argument against the entire bill of rights if your
	audience is the half-witted crowd that elected Joe Barton.

>"The American people must have the confidence that those running
>our country have drug free minds, especially when critical
>judgment is necessary for important matters of national security,"
>Barton said.
	Okay, so when does Barton take his alcohol test?  What a
	hypocritical, miserable, excuse for a human that guy is.



						smg
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