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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: MATT YOUNG TOSSES NO-HITTER, LOSES 2-1
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:06:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.210321.28874@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler) writes:
>     While we're discussing them, though, I'd like to start a thread - what do
>you think is the most thrilling personal achievment that could happen in a
>season.  99% of us would say a no-no is the most phenominal single-game one,
>but let's say you have season tickets to every game of your team's - would
>you rather watch a fellow go for Maris' home run mark, DiMaggio's hitting
>streak, a 30-win season, a .400 average, or soemthing else I haven't thought
>of?

No question; DiMaggio's hitting streak.  That's the one number that I think
is completely out of reach.

>     Gwynn could do it, Boggs could have a few years ago, and I don't
>know who else, but I think it would just be a BIG career year, more than
>anything. 

Boggs actually had a 162-game stretch during which he did hit .400; it
spanned two seasons, though.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com



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From: dougb@comm.mot.com (DX529 Doug Bank)
Subject: Re: Cubs Biased Announcers (was Re: Biased Announcers)
Reply-To: dougb@ecs.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:34:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.201537.24372@lmpsbbs.mot.com>, stailey@hawkeye.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey) writes:
|> (Big Bri) writes:
|> 
|> [Rantings about Harry Caray deleted]
|> 
|> 
|>   BTW, Harry is the play-by-play guy and is not really required to give deep
|>   insight into the game. That is what they have Steve Stone for. Not that I
|>   think he is all that great either. More often than not, I listen to the games
|>   on the radio.

Harry is a goof, but it is a lot more fun when he sings during the seventh
inning stretch than in any other ballpark. (although I hear they do a mean
"Roll out the barrel" in Milwaukee :-)

-- 
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Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 13:00:31 EDT
From: Matt Zika <MKZ101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject:    Lenny Dykstra status?

I was wondering if somebody could let me know the status on Lenny.  Did they
have to put him in a cast or was it a rumor?  Is he on the DL?  What else
could go wrong for poor Lenny and the Phillies?  Also, if there are any other
Phillies fans around, can you please post the scores of the Phillies games
with any interesting highlights.
                                 Thanks a bunch.
                                      Matt
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Lenny Dykstra status?
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:37:03 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <coleman.702860898@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu!> coleman@susie.cs.scarolina.edu (Kevin Coleman) writes:
>
>
>Here's the boxscore from the 04/07/92 Phillies/Cubs game:
>
>CHICAGO         ab  r  h  bi  lo  bb  so  avg
[...]
>Villanueva, c    3  0  0   0   0   1   0 .000
> Dascenzo, lf    0  0  0   0   0   0   0  ---

Betcha Dascenzo didn't make an error, either.
-- 
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1307 E 60 St, #109 +  is the skin of a living thought and may vary greatly in
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Chi, IL 60637      +  the time in which it is used."  --  Holmes
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: no-hitters
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:51:28 GMT

In article <kunhm3INNfug@girtab.usc.edu> sheehan@girtab.usc.edu (Joseph Sheehan) writes:
>Not to pick too many nits, but Elias has nothing to do with rulesmaking. They
>are the *statisticians* for MLB, the NBA and NFL, in addition to various media
>outlets. They also produce r.s.bb's favorite annual. :-)

Actually, I don't believe that Elias is still the statistician for MLB.  I
believe MLB has taken that internal, with their MLB-IBM Baseball
Information Service.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: DUMB inexcusable play
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:13:00 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

In <1992Apr9.141320.3599@nlm.nih.gov> mcmath@csb1.nlm.nih.gov (Chuck McMath) writes:

>In article <204617@unix.cis.pitt.edu>, dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
>> 
>      (good stuff deleted)
>> 
>> Now, Coleman's career success rate for stealing 3rd is probably right around
>> 90%.  What this means is that, in the long run, he's probably not costing the
>  ^^^^
>        Do you really think Coleman's success rate of stealing 3rd could be
>as high as that?  Intuitively (that's what people say when they don't have the
>numbers, right) I'd think his success rate of stealing 3rd would be lower -
>say in the 70-75% range.  Does anybody have the numbers?

The announcers always make a big deal about how 3rd is the easiest base
to steal.  Assuming Coleman has a 75% ratio overall, I would expect his
3rd base % to be 10-15 pts higher.

Sorry, no stats.  No doubt someone will have them.
--
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Gigabit Study Group 

  "It is considered good to look wise, especially when not 
   overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
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From: carl@warper.jhuapl.edu (Carl Lamy)
Subject: Re: Hey, I'm a NICE Jays fan!
Keywords: Weenies
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: na
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:56:30 GMT

mwdwhite@watnow.waterloo.edu (Martin White) writes:

>In article <1992Apr13.133132.9916@jts.com> geoff@jts.com (Geoff Vona) writes:

>Please don't stereotype all Toronto fans because of the cocky (without
>reason) idiots who constantly fill this net with Jays propaganda.  In
>general, the fans are unassuming and too quiet at the Dome.  

>martin

Could a Toronto fan enlighten me here? Whenever I listen to a baseball game
out of Toronto, the announcers always talk about how quiet it is in Skydome.
Is that because of the huge size of skydome, or is it really because the
fans are quiet, and if so, why?

			See you later, Carl

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From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: Re: Cardinals
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 04:10:35 GMT

jcj6@ace4.sps.mot.com (james berry) writes:

>>>
>>>* It is said their are very few St. Louis Cardinal fans.  
>>>*
>>>*How many are their out there;  Sign Up  Here!
>>>*
>>>*1> Dan Carpenter
>>>*2> Steve Parvin
>>>*3> Mark Laventhal
>  *4> Jeff Wayman -- I'm in Colorado!!
>   5> James Berry Austin.

Just so there's no more confusion over my typo:

    N> davE Vessell

where N is a number larger than 5. =-)

>
>There are ALOT of Cardinal fans here in Texas.
>When the Cards are in Houston it seems 1/4 of
>the fans are wearing red!  Of course sometimes
>it doesn't take many to equal 25%:-)  If you
>consider the size of the St. Louis area, around
>3 million ?, it is amazing they can draw the way
>they do.  Does anyone know the attendance last 
>year?  No offense to New York, Chicago, or LA.
>but St. Louis has to have some of the most loyal 
>fans anywhere.   

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they draw 4 million last year?

-- 
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From: klund@guajillo.gac.edu (Kevin T Lund)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Rickey Henderson v Nolan Ryan -- Stat-head call to arms!
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:30:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Apr15.103009.951

In article <204924@unix.cis.pitt.edu>  writes:
> I'd rather have dinner with Nolan Ryan; I'd rather *watch* Nolan Ryan.   
I'd
> rather have owned the rights to Rickey.

Are you sure?  Ryan causes a lot less problems than Rickey for his teams.   
No contract problems, etc.  Also, whenever Ryan pitches the stadium has a  
major increase in attendence.  Plus, if you have the rights to Ryan you  
can also have dinner and watch him too.  Personally, I'd rather have Ryan  
on my team than Rickey, even if Rickey _was_ better than Ryan.

Oh, and the reason is NOT because Ryan is white.

Kevin L
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
>           David M. Tate            |"The man who hath no music in  
himself
>      dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu       | Nor is not moved by concord of  
sweet sound
>   A poem should be dumb, / As old  | Is fit for treason, stratagems, and  
spoils
>  medallions to the thumb.-MacLeish | 	Shakespeare, "Merchant of Venice",  
A.V
From: colaluca@cs.utexas.edu (Mark Colaluca)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Question about baseball broadcasting..
Date: 7 Apr 1992 13:02:28 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: saltillo.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: broadcasting

This is a bit off the current subject(s), but I'm curious to know if anyone 
out there has experience about how most broadcasters get their starts in
baseball broadcasting.  I'm talking about those that do this as a living,
not just ex-jocks become color analysts.  Do they have to start in the minors
as well? :)  I figure most have to do other things for the radio/TV stations
they work for, since it's not a full-time job, but just curious as to how
their careers go.  Do you think most have journalism or communications degrees?

(And would any A ball minor league club consider a die-hard fan and EE 
student who thinks he'd make a good announcer?  :)

One can can dream, can't he? 

Thanks,

-- 
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From: roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Robinson and Boyer
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 00:48:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.111527.15774@pbs.org> kwinkler@pbs.org (The Axe Man) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.152416.13456@adobe.com>, snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols) writes:
>> In article <1992Apr06.211101.4456@cpqhou.compaq.com> carlr@cpqhou.UUCP (Carl Rempert) writes:
>>>I would tell you that I haven't reached any conclusion because you haven't
>>>given me enough data to go on.  However, this doesn't mean that errors are
>>>meaningless in reaching any conclusion.   Give me more numbers and I will use
>>>errors, along with the other stats you have given me, to reach my conclusion.
>>>Like how many innings did both players play at the position and how many
>>>percieved chances did each have.  By perceived I mean balls hit to them that
>>>would be reached by an average 2b.
>> 
>> So, say we have two second basemen, who played exactly the same number of
>> innings at second, faced exactly the same number of balls hit to them that
>> would be reached by an average 2b, converted exactly the same number of
>> them into outs, but one made 40 errors and the other 20.  Now, who's the
>> better fielder, and why?

>You can't say that one's better.  You can say that they're different.
>One has better range, because he got to 20 more balls.  But he also 
>made alot of errors on balls he did get to, and it's likely that most
>of them are routine plays that would be made by the average second
>baseman.  I don't think this difference is trivial, and its dependent
>in part on error totals.

>There.  You've seen some significance for the statistic.  Or haven't
>you?

Well, it seems that the two effects neatly cancel each other out.  Yes,
they're different.  And, yes, the "average" 2B might have made them.  On
the other hand, the average 2B makes a fair number of errors.  Now, it's
unlikely that the 20 errors were made on 20 *average* chances; they're
more likely to come on *tough* chances.  Anyway, I'd take the guy with
the errors, because the glovework is more likely to improve than the
range.

Finally, what *is* the significance for the statistic?  That it
differentiates the tow players is true.  But what does it tell us about
them? What would we ever want to find out, that E would tell us?

Roger


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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: TRADE RUMOR:  Mariners/Brewers
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:58:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr09.032045.157812@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH) writes:
>Report of the local newspaper in the Lehigh Valley has reported that Seattle
>catcher Dale Valle is going to the Brewers for 6 foot 5 inch David Rossing.
>Rossing, in AA ball, is expected to be possibly with the team by September.
>Last year, he hit 29 HR"s and 95 RBI's and batted .316.  Baseball magazine has
>reported him to be one of the top prospects of the rookie crop this year.

Why would you trade a top prospect for Dave Valle? 

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: odp@ldgo.columbia.edu (carl brenner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: DUMB inexcusable play
Keywords: Dumb, stupid, unforgivable
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:09:04 GMT
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory


	Well, it's only Opening Day, and Vince Coleman has distinguished
himself already. First he doesn't hustle on his first AB, then in the third
inning of a scoreless games he gets thrown out trying to STEAL THIRD ON BALL
FOUR WITH TWO MEN OUT. 
	Here's the situation: Two down, nobody on, DeLeon pitching, Coleman
up. DeLeon gets a little wild and walks Coleman on four pitches. Randolph steps
up to the plate. DeLeon can't *find* the plate. Ball one. Ball two. On the next
pitch (ball three) Coleman steals second. Fine, no argument, decent play, though
you have to start wondering if DeLeon is *ever* going to throw a strike and if
it's worth the risk trying to steal second when you're probably gonna get walked
there anyway. Then, on the next pitch (ball four), Coleman streaks for third
and is thrown out. So DeLeon gets out of an inning in which the last 8 pitches
he threw were balls. And oh yeah, Bobby Bonilla leads off the next inning with
a dinger.
	What could possibly have been so important about getting to third
with two men out? Does Vince Coleman have a brain? Is Torborg going to fine his
ass? Am I going to make it through this season without putting as bounty on
Vince's head?
	Oh well, at least the Mets won. First place feels good.
From: roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Rickey Henderson v Nolan Ryan -- Stat-head call to arms!
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:10:15 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article <167CBD917.X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu>
 X005CB@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.160550.7070@midway.uchicago.edu>
>      thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:

>>The whites are much more likely to be described as classy players,
>>the blacks as troublemakers.

>   Then please explain the Rod Dibbles & Len Dykstras of bb.
>Not exactly guys I would call classy....

OK, now read that sentence carefully.

MUCH
MORE
LIKELY.

Got it?  

Not ALWAYS.

Not WITHOUT EXCEPTION.

MUCH MORE LIKELY.

It's true.  When a young white ballplayer comes up, we hear about "hard
worker," "work ethic," etc.  Black ballplayers are far more likely to be
described as "great natural talent."  Sort of like natural rhythm.
Latin players tend to be described as "hot-tempered," of course.

You may not remember when Alan Trammell and Lou Whitaker were young.
The stories worked out just as expected, even though Trammell was the
one who developed quickly, and Whitaker had to do a lot more work to
become a good hitter.  But people saw what they expected to see.

By the way, you ALWAYS hear about Dykstra's "winning attitude" and
"hard-working" habits.

>    Sorry, but I give the (sports) media and fans a little more
>credit than that.

As far as I'm concerned, they've been overdrawn for a long time.

Roger
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From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: Errors (was Re: Robinson and Boyer)
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 02:53:45 GMT

In <1992Apr11.233104.7386@m.cs.uiuc.edu> steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson):
>Here's a legitimate use of errors:

>Calculating ERAs.

I'm not so sure about that.  It's pretty arbitrary, even if the official
scorers aren't.   Besides the obvious flaw with ERA (a pitcher can give
up 10 runs on 4 hrs after a 2 out error and not be charged with any of them)
there are other problems.  Lets suppose the second baseman is shifted
behind second base, and the ball is hit to his normal position.  Player
A is really fast, runs over to the normal position, and then boots the
ball.  Player B never comes close to the ball.  In one case, the pitcher
is absolved of all responsibility, even though each case has the same result.

>Here is a (fictitious) situation in which error totals actually tell 
>you something about the fielders:

>		Inn	Chnces	Errors
>Murphy, RF	700	700	  2
>Lucy,   RF	700	700	100

>Assuming ballpark effects, L/R effects, and equivalent leagues :->, we
>can tell that we have two outfielders with equivalent range, but one
>is a lot better than the other.

Yes, but we know that without errors.  Chances = PO + A + E.  Thus,
Murphy has 698 PO + A, while Lucy has 600.  Why do you even need to
bring the errors into it?

>Of course, if these are the ONLY statistics available you need new
>statisticians.
>-- 
>Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Gigabit Study Group 


-- 
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From: mab50312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark A. Blickhan)
Subject: Re: Eckersley NOT better than Fingers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:50:37 GMT

What is this about losing an argument???  It seems that everyone
is tired of the name-calling and rehashing the stats.

The consensus that I see is:

1)  Rollie Fingers is (was) a great pitcher.

2)  Dennis Eckersley had (and is having) a great career with both
    mediocrity and never-seen before brilliance.

Those "biased" towards Fingers:

1)  Value the strength of a consistent, reliable career.
2)  Prefer stats (saves, ERA) at face value.
3)  Emphasize championship play, in-the-clutch performance

Those "biased" towards Eckersley (I am biased, I put Fingers first, sorry):

1)  Value outstanding and 5-year consistent (not career) performance.
2)  Prefer to adjust stats (ballpark, time period).
3)  Emphasize day-in-day-out outstanding regular season performance.

What Eckersley fans should realize is that TIME will prove or disprove
their arguments.  Will Eck's great pitching in '87-'91 be remembered
with only 1 WS Championship, no Cy Young Awards or MVPs?

The answer unfolding (to me) is that the Eck will have to hold onto
what "dynasty" the A's attempted to put together.  If those '88-'90 A's
retain their fame, the Eck will be remembered as an integral part of it.
His career is not finished, maybe another championship (possible)?

ANYBODY WHO CLAIMS "VICTORY" OR CALLS PEOPLE LOSERS DOES NOT
UNDERSTAND THE NETWORK!

'rec - stands for RECREATIONAL.  HAVE FUN NOT NUCLEAR WARS!

By the way, if anyone has any more ammunition left,

consider the remaining topics above, but let Fingers vs. Eck die
in peace (the squabble, not them hopefully).

Start a new discussion based on:
1)  Career value vs. single seasons
2)  'Doctoring Stats
3)  World Series play vs. Regular Season

Mark Blickhan    ---       As in baseball,  those who don't enjoy
			   should find something else to do.
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Trivia: What to the numbers mean...?
Date: 9 Apr 92 09:00:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.myrjbxa
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <92099.185021GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu> <GRM100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Here's a bit of trivia from our college paper...
>
>Give the significance of the number and the player
>who holds the record.
>
>1) .424    highest BA.

Highest BA since 1900. (Hornsby)   
>2) 2.17    lowest ERA

Obviously an ERA (Koufax's career???)
>3) 56        \
>4) 57        /  Is one of these 50's, Hershisers inning streak

Hack Wilson had 56 HRs in 1930 (NL record)
>5) 61

Maris' AL record for HRs in 1961.
>6) 190

Also Wilson, also 1930, but Ribbies this time.
>7) 511

Cy Young's # of wins in a career.
>8) 755       HR career?

Yep, by the ORIGINAL Hammer, Hank Aaron (Only guaranteed orig compared to MC.)
>9) 5511      Hits career?   Pete Rose?

Strikeouts career.  Nolan Ryan.  Already incorrect.
>10) 7

Also Ryan.  No-hitters career.
>

Geez.  Completely overlooked #4.

Saves in a season.  57, by Bobby (Gee, now that I'm on Kurt's team, I'll hit
					the tank.) Thigpen.


All w/o Total Baseball.

| KWACK!                "God does not play dice with the universe.
| Kbos@carina.unm.edu      He uses a random number generator, just
| Kurt M. Bose UNM            like everybody else."
| Albuquerque, New Mexico                        -The Grand Platypus
| 
| The University of New Mexico agrees with my opinions 100%.
| They just don't know it yet.
From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: ESPN sked
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:38:25 GMT
Organization: American Software Development Corp., W. Babylon, NY

In article <1992Apr10.034909.6714@aero.org> foonberg@aero.org (Alan M. Foonberg) writes:
> [ESPN Sunday Night Schedule deleted with a lot of Ranger games as backups]
>
>You don't think ESPN wants to broadcast another Nolan Ryan no-hitter, do you?

You forget that the Rangers are the only team "authorized" to schedule
Sunday night games on a regular basis during the summer.  Having the
Rangers at home as the backup game is convienent for ESPN.  Nolan Ryan
has nothing to do with it.
-- 
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				|            LET'S GO METS!
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Biggio
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:31:13 GMT

In article <bmt8q4.34a@wang.com> bst@wang.com (Bruce Tannenbaum) writes:
>Wait a second (no pun intended.)!  Didn't Geno Petralli once play second
>base???  Where the heck is my Baseball Guide????????

Geno Petralli has played 11 games at second base in his professional
career.  Scott Hemond has played both catcher and second base in his
professional career, more at catcher than at second.  B.J. Surhoff appeared
in one game at second last year.  The closest of these to actually making a
move from catcher to second base is Hemond, who appeared at second more
than at catcher the last two seasons for Tacoma, but Hemond has never
really hit well enough to make it in the majors at either position.  I have
no idea what his defense is like at second.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com

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