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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:51:26 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Police Murdered 'Scorpions'
X-To:         seasia-l@msu.edu

    Reuter, Manila, April 10 - Police shot dead 14 unarmed suspects
during the rescue of a kidnapped U.S. businessman in in Manila last
month, a Philippine government team investigating the shooting said on
Friday.
    "They all died under mysterious circumstances," National Bureau of
Investigation (NBI) acting director Mariano Mison said by telephone.
    "The injuries they sustained and the bullet marks were too close to
their bodies, which is an indication that they were shot at close range
and not in a shootout," he said.
    Up to 14 people were killed when police blasted their way into
several suspected safehouses of communist rebels on March 18 to rescue
businessman Michael Barnes, seized at gunpoint two months earlier.
    Police have said the 14 were shot resisting arrest and denied
gunning them down in cold blood.
    "Our findings show that...(the) majority of them were shot in the
back and in the head. There was no shootout in the places raided by the
Philippine National Police. The people in those houses were defenceless
when they were shot dead," Mison said.
    Some of the houses raided were let to soldiers, but Mison declined
to say if any member of the military was involved in the kidnapping of
Barnes, a director of the American Chamber of Commerce and Industry in
Manila.
    Mison said the Justice Department would decide whether charges
should be filed against police officers responsible.
    The kidnappers, described by police as members of the Red Scorpion
splinter communist guerrilla death squad, had demanded $20 million for
Barnes' release.
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:48:32 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Indonesians Save Kompong Thom
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   UPI, Phnom Penh, April 6 - Fighting in Cambodia's central province
of Kompong Thom has stopped, land-mine clearing has begun and the
United Nations is preparing to send in more peacekeeping troops,
the force commander said Monday.
   "On the weekend we had favorable conditions where people started
clearing the roads (of mines)," said Maj. Gen. John Sanderson.
   The first U.N. peacekeepers moved into Kompong Thom last Thursday
following an agreed cease-fire between government and Khmer Rouge troops
but their first task was to put out a fire, not fighting.
   Within 48 hours, 200 Indonesians were called on to save the city
from a major fire which started in the market and threatened the central
part of the city, Sanderson said Monday.
   "There was quite a devastating fire in Kompong Thom town on Saturday
and the Indonesians came to the rescue," he said.
   "They took a large part in the fire fighting, were responsible for
stopping the destruction of a large part of the city and probably saved
lives," he said.
   "The people were grateful and that's good. That's the sort of thing
our people should be doing while they are here," said Sanderson, who
said he has more troops on standby to send to Kompong Thom.
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 14:43:35 -0400
From:         Soe Myint Aung <ap38@UMD5.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Bangladesh: 4 tribal rebels killed
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"Four Bangladesh tribal rebels killed."

Chittagong, 31 March -- Bangladesh troops killed four tribal rebels in
a raid on their jungle camp in southeastern Bangladesh on Monday, defence
sources said.

  Troops overran the camp at Basantipara Village in Chittagong Hill Tracts
after nearly an hour of fighting with heavily armed Shanti Bahini (Peace
Force) guerillas, they said.

  The Shantis began their insurgency in 1973 after Bangladesh rejected
their demand for autonomy for the 5,500 square mile hill tracts.[MNA/Reuter]

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"Pakistan builds wall to stop Kashmiris"

Chakothi(Pakistan), 31 March -- Pakistani security forces were furiously
building a stone barrier on Monday to halt Muslim militants bent on
storming the ceasefire line dividing Pakistani from Indian-ruled Kashmir.

   A sea of paramilitary troops wearing blue helmets and riot gear stood
behind coils of barbed wire about 1.5 miles short of Chakothi and the
Indian-defended ceasefire line. [MNA/Reuter]
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:59:03 -0400
From:         Max Zain <Max.Zain@MED.UMICH.EDU>
Subject:      Man's Best Friend (fwd)
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Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:15:02 PDT
From: Indonesia Publications/Task Force <apakabar@igc.org>
To: Multiple recipients of list SEASIA-L <SEASIA-L%MSU@pucc.princeton.edu>
Subject: Man's Best Friend

    Reuter, Manado, Moses manoharan, April 8 - Black-tongued dogs are man's
best friend in one Indonesian province -- preferably fried.
    In Christian-dominated Minahasa region of the Indonesian province of
North Sulawesi, dog meat is the most sought-after delicacy among gourmet
dishes ranging from bats to mice......
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    Johnny Kaeng said live dogs are taken off butcher's tables in
deference to Moslem sentiment during the fasting month of Ramadan.
    "We sometimes pity the dogs which come to our tables, but what to
do...life must go on," Kaeng said with a sigh.
.................
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	Indonesians,inhabitants of the world's largest Moslem country,
won't eat church mice. That timorous creature is considered poisonous.
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As far as I know, Muslims do not eat any dogs or mice. They are forbidden
to eat these animals by their dietary laws.

But the sentences seem to give a different implication here.

mzz
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Subject: To all you weenies....
From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:11:38 +1200
Followup-To: soc.culture.asean
Distribution: world
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.

This is forwarded from soc.culture.asean, from a person who claims
he is an "Open minded" person.  If you can see the humour in it, 
please keep it to yourself.  If you feel the urge to flame him,
please do it by email or forward to soc.culture.asean

In article <1992Apr6.144124.17239@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>
>	To all you people who are taken in by the propaganda of
>certain Western countries regarding our logging, my reply to you is:
>go fuck yourself.  Read what our Prime Minister said regarding our
>controlled logging, and maybe, you will understand once and for all,
>why the whole issue has been blown out of proportion to make us
>accountable for what is essentially the developed nations' mistakes.
>Open your mind, and try seeing how some developed nations are using
>the logging issue to hide the lack of steps taken by their government
>to fight global warming.  Your ignorance and willingness to trust some
>foreign governments make me sick!!  If I were you, I would take all
>the precautionary steps not to reproduce because your children will
>turn out to be just like you -- unfaithful, and easily taken in by the
>propaganda of other governments.
>
>	Hopefully, the government will continue to log at the present
>rate, or increase it to show to the world that we are not affected by
>their propaganda or their pressures...
>
>===------ 
>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>promised to take our land and they took it.
>                                                        Red Cloud

So there...

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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:41:24 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      US 'Backs' Suchinda
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    Reuter, Washington, April 8 - The United States on Wednesday said it
accepted as constitutional the selection of the general who led last
year's coup as Thailand's next prime minister.
    While acknowledging General Suchinda Kraprayoon's appointment was
just short of official, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Margaret
Tutwiler said:
    "We look forward to working productively with the new government.
The choice of prime minister is up to the Thai people and we respect
that process. It is my understanding that he was selected in accordance
with the Thai constitution."
    Asked if the United States was troubled that the general, who
overthrew a democratically elected government, would now lead that
government, Tutwiler said:
    "We welcome the return to constitutional processes and the formation
of a new government, and...we are respecting the Thai people. This is
their process, this is their choice."
    For the moment, U.S. aid, halted after the coup, will not be
resumed.
    "We cannot resume aid or cannot make a determination until the new
government has been formed...It is further my understanding that they do
not have a new government until he appoints his cabinet, which is still
yet to be done," Tutwiler said.
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:40:00 -0400
From:         rahman@UTSTAT.TORONTO.EDU

To
Elliot Parker.

Hi! I would like to post news at times in SEASIA-L. Can you please tell me
how can I do that? Thanks.

- Sheikh Rahman
e-mail: rahman@utstat.toronto.edu
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Organization: Vietnam Insight
Editor: Chan Tran
Address: PO Box 7826, San Jose, CA 95150, USA
Phone: (408) 226-2261
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:16:23 PDT
From:         Vietnam Insight <vinsight%netcom.com@HUSC6.BITNET>
Subject:      CDI Demands Vietnam's Democratization

CDI DEMANDS DEMOCRATIZATION OF VIETNAM
(Christian Democrats International magazine Jan. 1, 1992.)

An important international assembly on the future of Vietnam was held
in Prague (Czechoslovakia) on Nov. 16, 1991, in which the "Alliance for
a Free Vietnam" presented its "project for the democratization of
Vietnam." Participants in the event, which took place in the immense
Palace of Culture, included representatives of Vietnamese exiles
currently residing in France, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxemburg,
Germany, Austria, the United States, Australia, the United Kingdom, as
well as numerous Vietnamese students and workers residing in the East
European countries.

CDI was represented by Jose Esteban Gonzalez, Executive Secretary of the
CDI Commission on Human Rights. In his statement, the CDI delegate spoke
on the role played by Christian Democrats in the democratization and
pacification of several countries and affirmed that CDI was ready to
support every effort in favor of democracy, human rights and the
establishment of just and progressive societies. He also expressed his
belief that "the hour is approaching for Vietnam to enter the society of
free, democratic, prosperous nations to which it belongs."

Gonzalez, who called on the participants to pursue their struggle "with
realism and moderation," ended his talk by quoting the Assembly's
"Proposal to build a democratic society in Vietnam" :

"The history of Vietnam has witnessed so much hatred and division among
the people; only unity can bring a promising future. The dark days of
the past must be forgotten and we must be willing to forgive."

--
Vietnam Insight (vinsight@netcom.com)
Chan Tran, editor
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:03:40 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Opposition Opposes Suchinda
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    Reuter, Bangkok, Kevin Cooney, April 7 - Opposition politicians
joined students on Tuesday in plans to take to the streets to oppose
the naming of Thailand's supreme military commander as prime minister.
    "We will join with the students," Chamlong Srimuang, the popular
former governor of Bangkok, told a news conference attended by leaders
of the main opposition parties.
    Students and democracy campaigners scheduled a rally for Tuesday
night to protest against the likely appointment of army chief General
Suchinda Kraprayoon.
    General Sunthorn Kongsompong, leader of a junta that has overseen a
caretaker government since staging a coup in February, 1991, told
reporters he already had in hand a document naming the next prime
minister.
    Military sources said that document bore Suchinda's name.
    Five hundred people in 16 delegations brought flower tributes to
Suchinda's home on Tuesday.
    Sunthorn is charged by Thailand's post-coup constitution with
carrying the name of the nominee to King Bhumibol Adulyadej.
    A joint communique issued by the opposition leaders said: "Our four
parties will join hands with the people all over the country to call for
a parliamentary democracy."
    General Chavalit Yongchaiyudh, the main opposition figure, told the
news conference the anti-military parties had petitioned the speaker of
the lower house of parliament to call a meeting of all parties to select
a prime minister who won a seat in March 22 elections.
    No serving general stood in the election.
    Chavalit said he hoped the government media would broadcast news of
the opposition's call.
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 05:59:31 +0800
From:         s7725048%nchuv9.dnet@NCHUD1.NCHU.EDU.TW
Subject:      RE: Malaysian list
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hi,
   Dari mana awak datang? Bagaimana E-mail address awak?
   Please reply me. Saya manu mail to Malaysia kerana saya juga
datang dari Malasia.
From,

  CS Lee
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:21:49 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Manila Airport Radar-free
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    Reuter, Manila, Ruben Alabastro, April 7 - Ten airlines cancelled
flights to the Philippines on Tuesday after the strike-bound Manila airport
shut down the radar system that guides landing planes.
    Striking air controllers gave warning that the airport could soon be
paralysed.
    Air traffic services chief Louie Guanzon ordered the closure of a
vital radar approach control centre to allow the skeleton staff manning
it to rest after working for three days without relief, officials said.
    More than 300 government air traffic controllers, demanding a share
of profits from running the airport, walked out on Saturday, crippling
airport operations nationwide and leaving thousands of passengers
stranded.
    The government mobilised a crew of former controllers to enable
airports to carry out limited daytime operations.
    Tuesday's radar shutdown forced Japan Airlines, Singapore Airlines,
Thai Airways International, Cathay Pacific Airways, Malaysian Airlines,
Emirates airline, Kuwait Airways, United Airlines, Northwest Airlines
and Pakistan International Airlines to cancel flights, the operations
office said.
    The government has rejected the strikers' demands, suspended 44 of
their leaders and threatened to fire all of the country's 317 air
controllers taking part in the four-day-old walkout.
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:27:22 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Mahathir Embraces Suchinda
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    Reuter, Kuala Lumpur, April 13 - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir
Mohamad on Monday congratulated Thai military chief General Suchinda
Kraprayoon on his appointment as Thailand's prime minister.
    Mahathir expressed confidence that relations between the two
neighbours would reach greater heights.
    Mahathir said he looked forward to working with Suchinda to expand
bilateral ties and promote peace and prosperity in the region.
    Suchinda was controversially appointed prime minister last week
after the original nomination of Narong Wongwan was withdrawn following
allegations by the U.S. State Department that he was linked with drug
trafficking.
    A leading Malaysian newspaper, the pro-government New Straits Times,
last week slammed the United States for "interfering" in the
appointment.
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From: thies@bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Heinz-Georg Thies)
Subject: lean managment?
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:57:29 GMT



What is "lean managment" and "lean production"?

"Lean xxx" seems to be the new buzzword pretending to explain the 
Japanese and Korean superiority over the European Industry. As far as 
I understand it, the main points are fewer managers per worker and 
better flow of information from the workers to the managment even 
ignoring hierachical barriers.

A friend of mine has to write a paper on this topic. To base his 
claims on some facts he needs information on the managment structure 
of Japanese and Korean Industry.

He would much appreciate information or pointers to literature on:

-How many subordinates per manager?

-How many layers of managment from workshop to general manager?

-Who reports to whom?

especially concerning Japanese and Korean Industry, but information on 
other countries may be useful too.

Thank You very much for Your support.



Heinz-Georg Thies                       Sektion Physik der Universitaet Muenchen
Phone: (+49 89)3209 4071                Am Coulombwall 1
                                        D-8046 Garching, Germany
Internet: thies@charly.bl.physik.tu-muenchen.de
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:28:10 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Timor Governor Shortlist
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    Reuter, Sydney, April 13 - Former East Timor commander Rudolf
Warouw, removed from his post after a massacre by Indonesian troops last
year, is on a military list of candidates for the territory's next
governor, the brother of the current governor said on Monday.
    Sydney-based Joao Carrascalao quoted his brother, East Timor
Governor Mario Viegas Carrascalao, as saying last week that
Brigadier-General Warouw was third on an official list of candidates to
replace him. Joao Carrascalao was speaking in an interview.
    The governor, who was in a Jakarta hospital for treatment, ends his
second five-year term in September.
    Leading the list of candidates to replace him is Clementino dos Reis
Amaral, a member of President Suharto's investigation panel into the
massacre, and Lopes da Cruz, a special adviser to Suharto on East Timor
affairs.
    Both the leading candidates are Timorese, as is the fourth, Armindo
Marino, president of the Dili town council. Warouw is a Christian from
Sulawesi.
    Political analyst Harold Crouch of the Australian National
University in Canberra said that, while Timor's regional assembly
formally proposes candidates for Suharto's approval, in reality the
military influences the assembly's proposal.
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:56:33 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.ORG>
Subject:      Mahathir: Let Them Chop ...
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    Reuter, Kuala Lumpur, April 17 - Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir
Mohamad has said he will not stop the opposition-ruled state of Kelantan
from implementing Islamic laws that prescribe stoning, whipping and
amputation.
    "If Nik Aziz (Nik Mat, the Kelantan chief minister) wishes to do it,
let it be...if he wants to chop off hands or even heads, we will not
prevent it," the national Bernama news agency quoted him as saying on
Thursday.
    "We want to see who is prepared to mete out all these punishments."
    Both Moslem and non-Moslem leaders in multiracial Malaysia have
attacked the move as divisive and inappropriate.
    Mahathir's United Malays National Organisation (UMNO) rivals Nik
Aziz's fundamentalist Islamic party PAS for the support of ethnic
Malays, who make up nearly half of the 18 million population.
    PAS has accused UMNO, heading a coalition which has ruled Malaysia
since independence from Britain in 1957, of being un-Islamic for failing
to impose Islamic laws.
    Mahathir said several factors prevented the National Front coalition
from implementing such laws but added that this did not mean "we are not
adhering to Islamic teachings."
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