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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Cinemascope 'toons? (was Re: compleat tex avery #1)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:33:43 GMT

In article <derrick.727576139@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca>, derrick@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Derrick Rowlandson) writes:
> eric.walker@channel1.com (eric walker) writes:
> 
> >     However, Turner is now applying the "deluxe" treatment to the MGM
> >cartoons.  
> 
> Why are these Cinemascope cartoons not presented in the Widescreen format?
> Wouldn't that constitute more of a Deluxe treatment? Someone I know refused
> to buy the GALT sets because of this fact.

From what I understand, the Cinemascope MGM shorts are letterboxed in
the Tex Avery set.  Correct me if I'm wrong, but Warner never made
wide-screen animated shorts, so there's nothing to letterbox in their
set.
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: BTAS: The Mechanic... YUCK!
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:22:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.233111.3553@news.uiowa.edu>, mstailey@icaen.uiowa.edu (Michael David Stailey) writes:
> 
> Talk about disappointments... all they did for this episode was
> rip off the "Penguin gains control of the Batmobile" scene from
> BATMAN RETURNS.
[Not to mention the "Penguin gains control of the Batmobile" from
the 60's TV series]

Well, yes.  But as Elisabeth Riba pointed out, they did it *better*
than in BATMAN RETURNS.  I'd say that taking one sequence from a
live-action film and producing a story which is better than the
original deserves merit by itself.  Don't you agree?
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.video.releases
From: JACK.WEBB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Jack Webb")
Subject: WB Cartoon Laserdisc Availability
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:17:17 GMT

The six Warner Brothers cartoon laserdiscs were originally to be released in
December.  To date, they still have not been released.  I've had them on order
since early December from Whole Toon Access, and just received a letter from
them explaining the delay.

According to the letter, WB notified them that the discs should be available
in early to mid February.  WB claimed the delay was caused by unspecified
problems with the tape transfer process, which led them to reject the masters
from their manufacturer several times.

In theory at least, the problems have been corrected and they should be
hitting the streets soon.  I'll post again if I get any additional info.

Jack
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From: frank@fnbc.com (Frank Mitchell)
Subject: Re: Joker, Harley Quinn, and Poison Ivy (was Re: BTAS: Interpretations...)
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 01:06:29 GMT

In article <24JAN199319271865@rigel.tamu.edu> ted4646@rigel.tamu.edu (cartoon  
boy) writes:
> Another thing that i may be reading too much into on this episode:  What is 
> Poison Ivy's sexual orientation?  From the way she was acting...was she  
annoyed
> at Harley for worshipping Mr J, or was she jealous?  Sure there were several
> "gal friends" scenes, but still, i think that there was more than just a  
feeling
> of friendship growing on Pam's half.

Well, considering Ivy generally prefers plants to humans, one might expect her  
to go overboard when she finds a human she actually likes.  She might simply be  
starved for (two-sided) conversation.

--
Frank Mitchell,	Business Systems Analyst, First National Bank of Chicago
email:frank@fnbc.com (NeXTmail)

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From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: Simpsons now eligible for Emmy Best Comedy Series award
Date: 23 Jan 93 03:43:18 GMT
Organization: MegaCorp Central Complex

kmeyers@nyx.cs.du.edu (Karl Meyers) writes:

>gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:

>>I saw on a news story that The Simpsons are now eligible to be nominated 
>>for Best Comedy Series Emmy award, instead of having to condescendingly 
>>compete against other animated shows.

>All well and good, I'm sure, but what about those other animated programmes
>that deserve simular treatment?  Like, fer instance, Tiny Toon Adventures?
>Now, *there's* a show that should be up for Best Comedy.  In fact, TTA would
>have won Best Animated Series *if* we hadn't gotten robbed by - of all
>things - _Rugrats_ (BLECH!).

>Also, does this mean Batman: The Animated Series can now be nominated for
>Best Drama Series?  I certainly hope so...it's better than a lot of the
>drivel we see otherwise.

>Comments, anyone?

If animated shows were allowed to go head-to-head with live-action in the
Eemmys/Grammys, we just might see an increase in the quality of animation
programming...
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From: jrjj@moscom.com (Jad Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: BTAS: The Mechanic
Keywords: BTAS
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:25:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY

In article <1993Jan25.051546.15226@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime) writes:
>Well, so-so, but it sure is nice to see a new episode every once in a while.
>I give them credit for picking up some of the more interesting concepts from
>the 50+ years of Batman comics, such as the fellow who fixes the Batmobile.
>I'm not sure they did the best job with it, but it was OK.  (I thought it
>cute that the "initial" Batmobile that Cooper sees Batman driving is from
>the 30's comics.)  

One of the other things you had to catch very quickly was the fact that Bats
was wearing the ORIGINAL Batman costume. There was no yellow oval to be seen.
But it was only one quick scene. Way to cool. Somebody knows their Batman
history.

"Oh, Isn't this amazing?
It's my favorite part 			   Jad R. J. Jordan
Because, you see,			  MOSCOM Corporation.
Here's where she meets			    jrjj@moscom.com
Prince Charming!				()_()
But she won't discover that it's him		 (_)
'Til Chapter Three."
From: dranney@informix.com (David Ranney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Heavy Metal: The Movie
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:41:41 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <C15y5z.EK3@melpar> jwidor@melpar (Jeff Widor) writes:
>I have been searching (not very diligently) for a copy of 
>the movie "Heavy Metal"  Cculd someone out there give me 
>(maybe) an order number,price,phone number of a catalog house that
>mey carry this video?
>
>

As far as I know, Heavy Metal has not been released on videotape or laserdisk.
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Subject: Mermaid's Final scenes
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 23:31:26 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

All I know is that I read an article where Ron Clements (the red-bearded 
one) stated that CAPPS was used "in the final scene" as a test for Little 
Mermaid.  You can take scene to mean a long scene, one cut, whatever, but 
that *IS* what he stated. Perhaps the cels were only seriograph cels, or 
were of part of the scene that was not done on CAPPS, but if it came from 
Mr. Clements, I'd take it as fact. After all, he should know, shouldn't 
he?
:::::Larry:::::

::::::::::::::::::Classical Violinists Never Miss A Beat:::::::::::::::::
::::::::::::::::::::::::We Just Blame The Violas:::::::::::::::::::::::::
From: megazone@coal.WPI.EDU (MegaZone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Robotech Album
Date: 26 Jan 1993 07:36:10 GMT
Organization: WPI Discordian Society, Undocumented Cabal
NNTP-Posting-Host: coal.wpi.edu

In article <km2011-260193002133@m249-17.bgsu.edu> km2011@andy.bgsu.edu (K. Errick Mebane) writes:
>crazy.  I would like to know if anyone knows where to get a hold of any
>MinMei albums that may exist.  I know they're sold in Japan, but I don't
>know if they're available in the US.  If anyone has any info, and would
>like me to shut my friend up forever, send me email.  Thanks!

Well... The ones from Japan are from the original Super Dimensional Fortress:
Macross series and are, surprise, in japanese...

If you want the english minmei songs (sung by a drunken Reba West) you need
the Robotech album (yes... those old, round, vinyl things) or the Robotech
Perfect Collection (a CD with a few extra tracks too). Both were produced
by US Renditions, a division of Books Nippan. Of course both sold out long
ago.

I have both.

But I'm not selling. ;-)

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Supermarkets near wdw
From: Chris Allison <CHRIS@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Saturday, 23 Jan 1993 21:30:28 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

   Where is the closest and easiest Publix to WDW.  We usually stop on the
way from the airport but often need a second trip and Goodings is just too
convenient.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: ToonTown (was Re: UPCOMING ANIMATED FEATURES)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:24:25 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

In article <51938@seismo.CSS.GOV> tanida@seismo.CSS.GOV (Tom Tanida) writes:
>In article <1k3q1aINNfmq@network.ucsd.edu> rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook) writes:
>>
>There was a line over 2 blocks long at the gates of Disneyland before
>the park opened.  It is rumored that Toontown cost $100 mil to build.
>
>Toontown, however, did have special "soft openings" where Disneyland
>would, unannounced, open the gates to the public.  I know someone who
>went in early Jan, and I'm sure there are a few people reading this
>who also went as well.  So it's possible the gates were open over
>the weekend.  Any impressions (other than it's not worth the 1+ hour
>wait for the 56 second roller coaster ride :-) )?
>
>-Tom
>tanida@esosun.css.gov
>
I went on December 29th. (does that make me the first netter to go to
ToonTown?? OOOOHH!)  I posted my impressions at the beginning of the
month. Overall I guess I was a little disappointed that ToonTown was
so geared towards children.

The roller coaster ride was 56 seconds??  We guessed about 35....
Somebody should time it!!

-Denise
********
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From: cscon134@uoft02.utoledo.edu (John Heiden UNIVERSITY OF TOLEDO)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Studios Tour?
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:27:22 GMT
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1993Jan25.130220.3990@kodak.kodak.com>, huber@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Ron Huber) writes:
> Does anyone know if the Disney Studios give tours? If not, does anyone have
> a phone number for the Disney Studios?
> 
>  --
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> 
> 
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Sure you can.  If you are a Disney employee, or if your name is George
Lucas or Steven Spielberg, or you are a Disney board member, or if
you work for one of the other Hollywood studios, and are just a tiny
bit lucky, you can get on the lot and possibly get a tour.

Otherwise, NO YOU CANNOT.

But, there is some sort of hope.  Disney has been hoping for some time
to have a Disney-MGM Studios of sorts in California somewhere near
their current studios.  But this new attraction would have no operating
soundstages or many other things.  I'm not sure how you could make an
attraction out of it, though.  But if anyone can, they can.
I heard it would be quite a bit retail related, though.  =-(


John Heiden
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                                       Dept. of Computer Services

CSCON134@Uoft02.UTOLEDO.EDU            The University of Toledo
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: bbishop@crusader.torolab.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: beauty's song
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:25:13 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

>In the song "Belle" in BatB, so sings: "here's where she meets Prince Charming/but she won't discover that it's him 'til chapter three".
>It sounds like the "prince in disguise" idea is BatB, but she doesn't really
>discover that Beast is a prince until later in the story than what you could
>consider chapter three. In fact, she doesn't even meet beast until what could be considered after chapter three. What other fairy tale could she be talking 
>about? Any ideas?

I was fairly certain that the story she was reading was sleeping beauty.

The part where she meets the prince in the woods and doesnt know that it
is him whom she is destined to marry later in the story.

Brad


Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: cdsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER DALE SMITH)
Subject: Beauty and the Beast
Originator: cdsmith@c00514-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: cdsmith@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER DALE SMITH)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:38:01 GMT


Don't post that much, but this is definitely my favorite group!


I don't recall this one in any of the BatB lists:
 
 Did anyone else notice that Belle's fingernails
 were long/short throughout the movie.
In some scenes they are long, in others, short. 
 Does she use Lee press-on nails or did different
 animators not have the finger thing straight?


Tangential comment:

Jasmine's hair has got to go.  Ariel, by far, had the 
most appealing hair.  Every strand carefully, and perfectly
animated!  I loved that little piece of hair that kept falling
on Belle.  How many times did she have to fix that piece?  I'de 
estimate at least 10 times.  (This is a set up for someone to reply
with the correct number)


Oh well, had fun.


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From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: UPCOMING ANIMATED FEATURES
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:00:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <4900@moscom.com> jrjj@moscom.com (Jad Jordan) writes:
>
>The 1992 Annual Report issued to stockholders said after Pocahontas, the new
>goal was 2 animated features a year. (Or was it every year and a half? Sorry -
>Alzheimers :-). Personally I think they are stretching for ideas. 

That's probably why Disney has two production facilities (at Glendale
and WDW).  The Lion King is delayed until mid-1994, of course, which
would place its release about six months away from Pocahontas,
assuming that they release that in late 1994.

>While we are on the subject, what happened to the rumors of Sinbad, which was
>reported when B&TB came out? And something about Silly Hillbillies from Mars?
>Come on people, we can dig up more dirt!

I figure that if we dig for dirt, we will probably find *dirt*. ;-)
It seems that almost every time the Disney Studio chairman talks about
future animated features, he mentions "Sinbad Tales" and "Silly
Hillbillies on Mars."  I've found no further information on them
whatsoever.  The second one sounds kinda creepy, doesn't it?

And yes, I think that they may be "stretching for ideas."  But there
are plenty of ideas--more than Disney could know what to do with,
I'm sure.  They may be limiting themselves too much where story
selection is concerned, while ironically prancing around the limits
of what they can do on the screen.  More emphasis should be placed
on the stories, IMHO.

Instead of another "coming of age" story, they could try something
loosely, very loosely, based on Hans Christian Anderson's "The
Nightingale."  It doesn't even have to involve such a creature.
The story is simple, yet engaging.  "Rumpelstiltskin" might just
work, too, with a major overhaul.  Don Bluth has snagged Thumbelina,
so I guess that's out of the question (he almost made a Beauty and
the Beast feature during the mid-80's!).  But there are thousands of
lesser-known stories that Disney could draw from...if they wanted
to.


- Robert Cook
From: mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Disney Studios Tour?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:17:20 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

In article <C1I33y.2GD@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier) writes:
>In article <1k4gesINNeq7@shelley.u.washington.edu> mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu (Denise "ABU" Lockner) writes:
>>In article <C1Fr9E.5GA@unix.amherst.edu> atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>>>Denise "ABU" Lockner (mousktr@carson.u.washington.edu) wrote:

>>>> -Denise (WHO HAS A DISNEY I.D.!!  SEEN IT! DONE IT!!)
>>>> ...and who might be persuaded to share her exploits at the Studio...
>>>
>>>Oooooooh!  And aren't we all SO excited... Come on!  I've been to the studio.
>>>Big deal. ;)  Ya seen one studio, ya seen 'em all (well, they don't all
>>>have tall buildings with dwarfs as pillars, but what can ya do).  Several
>>
>>
>>Yes....but did Angela Lansbury almost run you over with her Thunderbird?
>>I think not....so there, babycakes.
>
>Oh?  And did you get to walk the Disney/MGM Studios star parade for
>Geena Davis, Ed McMahon, Neil Patrick Harris (Doogie Howser, no
>less!), John Ratzenberger, Tevin Campbell, Howie Mandell, or carry the
>banner in the Aladdin Parade with a red fez on your head?  Well? huh?
>Or did you ever have to escort Michael Jackson from the Main Street
>Electrical Parade into the tunnels without getting crushed?  
>
>Aha!  I thought not!  You work at the wrong park dear!  
>(And I have more I'm saving for your reply!!) =-)
>
>
>Sean Squier
>(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
>ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu


Well...ummm...I got to see and hear Gerardo every day this summer.....
OK Sean, I'll let you win :b  .

But I work at the BETTER park.  HEE HEE HEE

-Denise
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"If you can't say something nice..don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: jle37069@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nevoieur the Hunted)
Subject: Re: How about ANIMATED Disney Movies
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:35:43 GMT

tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:

>Why is "Mickey's Christmas Carol" not on any of the lists?  That was a
>theatrical release.  I rememebr seeing it.


>Will they EVER release the Balck Cauldron on video?  I've only ever seen
>it once, and would kill to see it again.

No.  From what I have heard it will probably never be released.  For different reasons, Song of the South will never be rereleased as well.


From: holmquis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Darrell G Holmquist)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:29:49 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: BatB laserdisc
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney

I received a nice letter (which I don't have in front of me) from the Consumer
Relations Department of Buena Vista Home Videos stating that B&B will be
released on laserdisc this September.

If you want to write to them about this or any other Disney laserdisc subject,
the address is:

  Buena Vista Home Videos
  P.O. Box 908
  Lakewood, CA  90714-0908

They do want to hear from us about their products.  Let them know what you
think.

Thanks,
dh

holmquis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com
From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Little Mermaid: Whale of a tail
Date: 26 Jan 1993 02:05:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


You probably missed "Whale of a Tail" because it was broadcast on a Friday
night, shortly before the series' Saturday morning debut.  It was the pilot
but also a preview episode.  Sorry, I did not tape it. 
Linda
-- 
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From: tedwards@cam.nad.northrop.com (Tony Edwards 27541)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Videos
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:53:13 GMT
Organization: Northrop Aircraft Division - Operations Productivity, Hawthorne, CA

I just got a copy of a video trade magazine where Disney has an
ad for the last orders for 5 movies they are 
B & t B
1001 Dalmations 
The Rescuers 
The Rescuers down under
The great Mouse dectective

They will all be gone by march no more orders will be taken   
so if you dont have them get them soon
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.tv,alt.tv.dinosaurs
From: collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Dinosaurs: Big Songs CD
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:52:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.203730.8013@oct17.dfe.dec.com>, chabaned@thebay.enet.dec.com (Ed Chaban) writes:
> 
> In article <1993Jan9.070811.1@cubldr.colorado.edu>, collins_w@cubldr.colorado.edu writes...
>>   Did everyone else notice what is being spoofed on the back of the
>>CD package for "Dinosaurs: Big Songs"? Hilarious. The poster inside is
>>the same picture.
> 
> Ooh! where did you get this?  What label is it on?  Caref to post a track list?
   Label = Walt Disney Records.

   Check your local department stores (Walmart, Kmart, Target, ...) & record
stores. I got mine at Walmart ($11.97).

> I'm the baby, gotta love me, big purple eyes, I'm very cuddly....
   Not Da Mama! Listen to the last 15 seconds of the CD for this.

   Someone else beat me to the track list. Favorites :
	Stone Age Bayou - liked immediately.
	I'm the Baby (Gotta Love Me) - from the show (Target shows this
		video).

	In a Perfect World - has started to grow on me.


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