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From: rob@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (rob)
Subject: SLIP
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:49:34 GMT
Keywords: SLIP

I am having a heck of a time getting SLIP to work.
My setup: A/UX 3.0 configured with bnet - MacIIci 8/160 - Telebit T3000
modem with hardware-handshake cable.
The problem: I want to use my Mac as a SLIP client to an HP9000/382
running HP/UX 8.0 and configured as a SLIP server. I can cu(1) and log
into the HP with no problem. I can start ppl(1) [<== The HP SLIP interface]
ok, and it tells me the protocol is started. I can then run slattconf(1) on
the Mac and it returns 'sl0' as expected. 'netstat -r' on the Mac indicates
that the routing tables are as they should be.  'netstat -Isl0 10' shows
that there are input and output packets flowing through 'sl0'.

BUT.....
If I try to do anything with the SLIP connection (i.e. - telnet, ftp,
ping) nothing happens! I can 'ping' my local system via its system name
as shown in /etc/hosts (rather than 'loop') and get results, but when
I try to ping the SLIP server I get no response.

Is there something obvious I can try to attempt to determine what's going on?
Since netstat indicated input packets are arriving it would be nice
if I could snoop at the packets to see their headers, but I don't see any 
A/UX support for that. I fear that I may have something within A/UX
configured incorrectly such that the Mac does not recognize packets addressed
to it.

Any and all suggestions are welcome and will be tried. I will summarize
all responses for the net if there is interest. Thanks in advance.....

.....rob

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: kguhr@gnusys.GUN.de (Klaus Guhr)
Subject: Re: nn installation
Organization: Klaus Guhr Private
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 20:05:29 GMT

tron@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Tron) writes:

>I tried to install nn under A/UX 3.0. But after the installation, I tried
>to run it but got an error:
>Cannot open file /usr/spool/nn/MASTER, mode=0x80, errno=2

>What did I do wrong? I also tried to install NNTP but the misc.c 

it seems like a permission-prob. Please correct your permissions of
/usr/spool/nn/...

There must be a write & read rights -->> chmod 666 or 777.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: A/UX 3 freezes when fsck fixes things!
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:41:50 GMT

cgarnett@amhux1.amherst.edu (Craig Garnett '87) writes:

>Anyone know about this one? I've got 3.0 running on a Mac II, connected
>to the rest of the world by an ethernet card, so I can telnet to the
>machine from our VAX. Occasionally, when I'm feeling bored, I'll log on
>as superuser and do an "fsck /dev/dsk/c0d0s0", and invariably, if the
>system finds anything wrong with the disk, it will come back at the end
>of the repair process with "File system modified, rebooting A/UX!"

>This would be fine and dandy, except it doesn't work. Whenever it does
>this, I come look at the screen on the Mac and it's displaying this
>black and white checkerboardish pattern with "panic: ifree: freeing free
>inode" on the screen. Pressing the restart key makes the Mac reboot,
>start A/UX, and all is well.

>Is this supposed to be happening? It seems odd to me...if it turns out
>that one just can't restart the Mac unless logged into the console, I'll
>disable it, but it's still a pain.

Let me get this straight...

You are attempting to run fsck on an open, mounted file
system that also happens to be root file system in multi-
user mode and when it bombs it's a pain??

'fsck' should _always_ be run on closed, unmounted file-
systems. 'fsck'ing the root file system is even more
restrictive: single user mode _only_ and if 'fsck' finds a
problem it will (because it _must_) immediately reboot the
system.

Some people just have too much time on their hands... :)
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==============================================================================
#include <std/disclaimer.h>

                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: mail problems.....
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:52:57 GMT

Ori Feldman <FELDMAN@BGUVM.BGU.AC.IL> writes:
>   Hello again.
>As I mentioned b4, I'm using the beta and not the release....
>Now:
>    /usr/mail files are not owned by the user himself....and thats a bug
>probably.

I would hardly make a big deal about a "bug" that's in a beta release
that isn't in the Golden Master release... I think it's been fixed ;)

>BTW:

>     Is there any option to undelete a file ( system files and users
>files ) without backuping them b4 ?

Well, you could copy /bin/rm to /bin/RM and then make a shell script
(and call it /bin/rm) that moves the named files to something like
a directory called /tmp/waste...
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==============================================================================
#include <std/disclaimer.h>

                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: AUX Puppy in ethernet trouble
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:14:15 GMT

kturner@moose.uvm.edu (Kevin Turner) writes:

>We just got a brand new, straight from the cd-rom aux 3.0 (on an FX).
>How do we get set up for the internet?  We unfortunately got no
>manuals (it's a demo machine).  We have some unix configuration
>experience (a decstation 5000), but can't seem to figure out how
>to set this guy up.

This will be a brief overview:

First of all, you need the hardware capability to hook-up to the ethernet.
This means you need a EtherNet NuBus card. I recomend the Asante MacCon 64
card; it's register compatible with the Apple card but cheaper and faster.

Next, after you've installed the card you'll need to get an IP address from
your network administrator. This address uniquely specifies your machine out
of all the ones on the net so don't "guess" what this value is! The
form of the address is something like XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX. Don't attempt to
access the net (or use network-related programs) until you have this number.

Finally, you'll need to tell A/UX to install whatever code might be needed
to use the net. You do this by telling A/UX to configure itself for
Ethernet support:

	$ newconfig bnet

As A/UX is adjusting itself, it will ask you some questions such as your
IP address and your hostname (you'll also need to get this from your net-admin
or, at least, have your net-admin assure you that one you want is unique
on _your_ net. For example, you might want to call your hostname "demofx"
and your net-admin will let you know if that name is okay. He/she should
also tell you the domain name of your network. For example, the hostname
of the machine you posted with was "moose" and the domain name was "uvm.edu"
making the complete hostname of the system "moose.uvm.edu"... the IIfx
will have a similar type name).

Once the configuration is done and you reboot the system, you should have
ethernet support and access.
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#include <std/disclaimer.h>

                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

                     "Squeak. Squeak, I tell you, squeak."
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: FTP reports "out of memory"
Keywords: FTP a/ux 2.0
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:18:05 GMT

xdaa374@ut-emx.uucp (Bill Douglass) writes:

>Appreciate some debugging help.  I'm running a IIfx with a/ux 2.0.  4MB RAM
>(I know, too little, but for now it must do.  I have killed the Mac-like
>Login and am just running getty on the console.)  Plenty of swap space.

>I am attempting to set up automated file transfers between this box and a Mac
>IIsi running NCSA Telnet 2.5.  The process runs smoothly at first, but after
>a few commands, the a/ux ftp programs dies with the message
>			ftp: Out of memory
>and returns to the shell.  I can't figure what it is complaining about: buffers
>or virtual memory or what?

>Any clues, pointers, etc. are greatly appreciated.  I do want this to run
>reliabily as an indication of what Unix and a/ux are capable of, in hopes of
>garnering a stronger committment from the top management for more support (and
>money, of course.  Buy some of that much needed memory.)

I believe (it's been a while since I looked at the ftp/ftpd code) that
many (most) times, ftp is "given" this message from the ftp daemon that
it's communicating with. In other words, the ftp daemon on the other
size has "run out" of memory and your ftp is telling you.
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                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

                     "Squeak. Squeak, I tell you, squeak."
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.sys.mac
From: bugow@sunslc.imw.tu-clausthal.de (Rainer Bugow)
Subject: Re: AU/X 3.0 on PowerBook?
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:12:00 GMT

weigert@etlhit.etl.go.jp (Thomas Weigert) writes:
: 
: AI> Has anybody been trying to run AU/X 3.0 on PowerBook?
: AI> I know AU/X 3.0 doesn't support PowerBook.
: AI> But I'm just curious if it's possible or not.
: 
: I received the following note on the same question recently:
: 
: PB> No, it won't run on any portable, including all powerbook models.
: PB> A bad move by Apple, I think.
: 
: PB> -Phil
: 
: PB> -- 
: PB> Philip J. Brandenberger
: PB> Swarthmore College, but I don't speak for it, in fact usually against it.
: PB> pbrande1@cc.swarthmore.edu
: 
: My guess would be that it has to do with timeouts in low
: level devices such as the video card, etc. This has been a
: problem with quite a few 3rd party monitors in the past as
: well. But this is just a wild guess.
: 
: Cheers, Thomas.
: 
: 
: 
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: +--------------------------------+---------------------------------+

According to an article in the german MACUP magazine (issue 3/92) 
AU/X runs on a PB 170. Limited by the currently available internal HD (80 MB)
you should be able to install a small AU/X (i.e. without man pages).

Rainer       

Rainer Bugow                      bugow@sunslc.imw.tu-clausthal.de
IMW, TU Clausthal
3392 CL-Z / Germany
+49 5323 722696
From: rainer@coos.dartmouth.edu (Robert O. Rainer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Help Not recieving mail
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:17:21 GMT
Distribution: US
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Hello;

	Once again thanks for the help with the tape unit, I spent many hours
making a back up, and all worked well.  I was wondering if someone could help
me with my mail problem.  It seems that I can send mail off my mac fine using
elm, but when I try to mail to my mac I get the following message:

 N  1   Jul 22 Mail Delivery Subs (27)   Returned mail: Service unavailable 

with the following info:

Message 1/1  From Mail Delivery Subsystem             Jul 22 '92 at 10:14 am edt


Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:14:04 EDT
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
To: <rainer@coos.dartmouth.edu>

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
>>> HELO pandoras-box
<<< 553 Local configuration error, hostname not recognized as local
554 <root@pandoras-box.path.med.ufl.edu>... Service unavailable: Invalid argumen
t

   ----- Unsent message follows -----
Received: from coos.dartmouth.edu by pandoras-box (5.64/A/UX-3.00)
        id AA00192; Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:14:04 EDT
Received: by coos.dartmouth.edu (5.57/Ultrix3.0-C)
        id AA24742; Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:08:18 -0400
From: rainer@coos.dartmouth.edu (Robert O. Rainer)
Message-Id: <9207221408.AA24742@coos.dartmouth.edu>
Subject: test
To: root@pandoras-box.path.med.ufl.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:08:18 EDT

it seems like my mailer is not responding to incomming messages.  I checked the headers of the message ->

From MAILER-DAEMON@pandoras-box Wed Jul 22 10:08:33 1992
Received: from coos.dartmouth.edu by pandoras-box (5.64/A/UX-3.00)
        id AA00194; Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:14:04 EDT
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 10:14:04 EDT
From: MAILER-DAEMON@pandoras-box (Mail Delivery Subsystem)
Subject: Returned mail: Service unavailable
Message-Id: <9207221414.AA00194@pandoras-box>
To: <rainer@coos.dartmouth.edu>


It appears to me that the mail reaches my machine, but the it does not know 
how to handle it.  I am really puzzled by this.  I can find the users with
a local mail, so I know they exist.  

Once again any help would be wonderful since I have been struggling with this
one for a while.

thanks in advance--again rr

rainer@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: creed@fse.ulaval.ca (Carlos Reed)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: X11R5
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:16:37 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux
Organization: Ulaval

Hi everybody!


I'd been trying to install X11R5 on a mac II ci without succes.

Are the files found at 128.252.135.4 are corrupted ? When I try to
decompress them i allways get media errors.

I'd been doing the following:

1)FTPing 128.252.135.4 via appletalk directly using a gator box. It did't
work that way
2)Telneting  a frind's Unix machine via appletalk, and then ftping
128.252.135.4 from his unix machine. Then FTPing once agin from localtalk
my frind's Unix machine.


Any help would bw appretiated


carlos Reed
creed@fse.ulaval.ca
From: dswartz@sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: LONG ravings about disk geometry. (was: Re: /etc/disktab entry for Quantum LP240S)
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:58:06 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

Speaking of distab entries, my Q700 has a standard Apple ~400MB internal
hard disk (a Seagate 1480), but I don't seem to see anything in the
disktab that looks like it would be for this.  Why not?

-- 

Dan S.
From: deboni@diego.llnl.gov (Tom DeBoni)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: "Out of Memory" & Mysterious crashes
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:53:37 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory


I've read the FAQ,a nd checked the swap space (swap -a) and kconfig
setups (couldn't understand much of it, but saw nothing obvious), and I
still have troubles and questions.

Lately A/UX 3.0 is giving me a lot of strange refusals. Sometimes MacX
windows quit and disappear spontaneously. Sometimes I get "out of memory"
messages. Sometimes Unix tasks quit, with or without such messages, when I
know they should have succeeded. once in a while, during a compile, I get
a "malloc failed" message. The most disturbing symptom is the MacX window
disappearance. Something is definitely wrong.

I have 20 MB of RAM and 30 MB of swap space. There's lots of space left
in my file systems, and as far as I know my RAM is ok. Anybody got any
clues?

Tom DeBoni (deboni@diego.llnl.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: fred@ivhs.mot.com (Fred Brunner)
Subject: Gravis SuperMouse
Summary: SuperMouse is super
Keywords: 3-button meeses Gravis
Organization: Motorola IVHS Group - Northbrook IL
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:33:24 GMT

capehart@cs.swarthmore.edu (AC Capehart) writes:

>In the faq, I read glowing support for the gravis super mouse.  However,
>when I called up mac connection, they said that it would not work under
>system 7.0.1.  I am using a Mac Quadra running MacX until I get on an

As usual, they are clueless. As I speak, I'm using the Gravis under A/UX
3.0, and it works like a champ. It works fine under 7.0.1, too. This is
on a Q950.

I use it under both MacX and X11, and works great, adds no weight. I like
the A+ optical 3-button, but this can not be configured to use the
option-arrows for mouse buttons under A/UX, and since I find it offensive
to have to hold down option to use the cursor keys, Gravis wins.

You can get the thing for like $80 at CompUSA in the Chicago area.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
Subject: Re: Can A/UX 3.0 use SCSI-2 card? (was: Mac accelerators and A/UX 3.0)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:52:24 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

weigert@etlhit.etl.go.jp (Thomas Weigert) writes:
>I have bought a PLI Quick SCSI card and was very excited
>about seeing how nice it performed on both my Syquest and my
>normal drives (although the article you mention seems to
>argue that such cards would only make sense if you have
>superfast drives). 

>Unfortunately, the PLI card needs an init to be able to see
>the drives connected to it. This init bombs my mac when I
>try to boot A/UX (2.0.1). Since I am currently in Japan, I have not
>tried to contact PLI about this problem yet, so I don't know
>if this problem is of the "tough luck, not enough A/UX customers to
>make fixing worthwhile"-type (as I was told when I bought my
>data desk 3rd party keyboard).

>If anybody knows about upgrades or fixes for the problem
>with the PLI card, I would appreciate hearing about it.

Forget it. It requires an A/UX driver, not a fixed init. Figure the
chances on this are roughly 1 in 1E99. :-(

--
Alexis Rosen   Owner/Sysadmin,
PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: NN, PowerCache, IIsi, StyleWriter
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:11:29 GMT

hulse@el2.phy.nrc.ca (John Hulse) writes:


>I recently acquired a Quadra 700 for my lab and I am setting up A/UX 3.0
>on it. All has gone pretty smoothly, and I am impressed with the system.
>I have, however, a few questions that one of the readers of this group 
>will hopefully be able to answer for me.

>1) I have set up set up nn 6.4.16, using the s-aux3.h header file which
>I snatched from "jagubox" (thanks guys!). I seem to have but one
>problem. I put a line to start up the daemon in /etc/rc:

>/usr/local/lib/nn/nnmaster -l -r -C

>as suggested in the docs, but no daemon ever gets forked. Nnmaster does
>start up all right, and perform the check on the database, but then it
>gets a hangup signal and just quits. Has anyone else seen this?
>Running the above command line once loged on works just fine.

I have run nnmaster from an rc file and from /etc/inittab and have seen
it happen once-in-a-blue-moon.

>2) I am in fact upgrading both machine and O/S - from a IIsi running
>A/UX 2.0.1. I couldn't resist trying out 3.0 on the IIsi first. Well,
>things are pretty slow on a IIsi, especially the Mac OS. Still, I would
>like to buy a right to copy and run 3.0 on both machines. So I
>thought a performance upgrade in the form of a DayStar Universal
>PowerCache at 50 MHz would be a smart move. Does anyone have an opinion?

Yes... a smart move it would be.

>3) With regard to slowness - printing on a StyleWriter under A/UX really
>brings a IIsi to its knees - even with driver 7.2.2. Can I expect this
>to improve with such an upgrade?

Total system performance will be boosted to impressive levels.
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#include <std/disclaimer.h>

                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (William Johnston)
Subject: Re: AU/X compatible cd-readers
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:59:43 GMT

In article <WEIGERT.92Jul21184340@etlhit.etl.go.jp> weigert@mcs.anl.gov writes:
>
>This question has been posted before, but no comprehensive
>answer has been given so far. 
>
>"Which cd-rom readers are compatible with au/x?"
>
>I know that the old Apple CD-rom is, since I have loaded my
>A/UX system from there. Probably the new cd-150 by apple is
>also, since they would be fools if it weren't. But how about
>others (NEC, for example)?

The only word I've had on CD ROM drives since posting that 
question is that NEC drives DON'T work with A/UX, Toshiba drives 
may work with a driver from OMI (Optical Media International),
and Sonys may work with the Apple driver.  No definitive answers, 
and the Apple drive ended looking very good (something like $479
at ComputerLand for the new CD 150) when I compared it to other 
new CD drives advertised in Mac publications and the Shopper.

I'm poor, so on the strength of this info I made a deal for a 
Toshiba mounted in a SUN shoebox, which was offered used at a 
decent price by a netter who claimed to have used it under MacOS 
and A/UX.  The driver software from OMI was awkward, and the 
"README" files were clearly written for use with some other
drive.  Fortunately the driver software seemed to be incompatible
with APS PowerTools, which I'd used to format my other SCSI drives
and Syquest carts, and the owner agreed to take back the drive.

Later on I managed to find an Apple CD SC that I could borrow
for the installation.  That went off without a hitch, and I'm
now glad that I don't own a CD ROM player, because I haven't 
had a use for it since.  Unless you need the drive to access
non-A/UX CDs (like ETO or the PD data compilation disks that
seem to be bundled with new every CD drive) you may not need it.

Here's why:  first, if you don't have enough disk space to install 
the whole A/UX 3.0 distribution, you really want spend the money on
disk space.  (Even the recommended 160 meg isn't nearly enough.)

Instead of importing files as necessary from the distribution CD, 
it is easier, IMO, to back up seldom-used parts of the A/UX dist
(games and the Apple X11R4 stuff, in my case) to unix floppies 
or to Mac volumes as 'tar.Z' archives.  So long as you maintain
good backups there should be no need to go back to the CD.  I'd 
get a bigger disk and a tape drive before getting a CD drive just 
for use with A/UX.

-- Bill (johnston@me.udel.edu)
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