From: endevour@wam.umd.edu (Afghan)
Subject: Re: X-posting
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:12:13 GMT

In article <4439@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa) writes:
>In article <92325.102706SH0950A@auvm.american.edu> SH0950A@auvm.american.edu (Shah Sharif) writes:
>>hello to my fellow  Afgans.  I have been one of the silent readers
>>on this news group, I have noticed a lot of cross posting from
>>other countries to our news group with news and information that
>>has nothing to do with us.  Are these people that stupid  that they
>>can't tell the difference between S.C.A and their own f*K&ng countries.
>>I mean do we realy care about urdo news group, we don't even speak the
>>damn language.  Or the Iranian news, if I want to read it then I would go
>>to S.C.I and read it.
>
>[rest deleted]
>
>Have you considered moderators for this newsgroup?  This would
>eliminate the cross-postings of materials that are not in
>connection specifically to soc.culture.afghanistan.
>
>Using offensive language to appeal to others is definitely not
>the answer, nor is suggesting that posters should completely
>alienate themselves from other political issues that are vital
>and important to Muslims as a whole.

We are not asking posters to alienate themselves from other 
Political issues. If one can get as far in the network to read
the news then I am sure he/she will have enough brains to 
navigate through the news groups and find the one they are 
interested. Lately Afghan news group has become the dumping
groud for Algerians, Bosnians, Iranians, Pakistanies and even
with some fans of the new movie Dracula. 

This is not appropriate. The news group is called 

SOC.CULTURE.AFGHANISTAN     

and lately we get postings about everything but Afghanistan. 
Just look at the latest posting. Mr.Babak Sehari is using the 
news group for his new toy, a Persian text simulator, and is 
stuffing us, on daily basis, with some jargon which needs a 
Pentagon cryptographer to read. Now you tell me how do you 
shut such peaple up. The Iranians, in the Iranian news group,
have unanimously included Mr.Sehari in their KILL file and here
we are stuck with thier outcast.


  The Algerians and Bosnians
>are facing the same dilemma that Afghanistan did - with military
>occupation and crimes against humanity.  Perhaps it cannot be
>considered completely parallel to what occurred in Afghanistan,
>but my point is that we should empathize with other Muslim nations
>[in the sense that the majority are Muslim and/or calling for an
>Islamic state] and people, and not be so abrasive to these posts.
> 

Empathize we would, but we would appreciate it if we are given a chance 
to excercise our own free will in this process. Shoving Algerian 
or Bosnian news down our throat is hardly the solution. 

Mr.Shah's outburst of anger over the x-posting was quite justified 
and I am sure most of the the AFGHAN posters will strongly agree
with him.  Also lately I have noticed a trend of postings. 

Now this is my Oliver Stonish Style of uncovering a conspiracy in the
group. :-)  You need not take it serious but think about it next time
it happens.

I have noticed that whenever the debate over Afghanistan, over the issue of 
foreigne infiltration, over Gulbudin and Rabanies roles etc  heats up in 
this news group, they suddenly get drowned by a series of postings 
by the Islamic Student Union (Islamic World News), by Algerian 
news letters, by Babak Sehar's propaganda sheets, by futile Shia-Sunni
strifes, and, before we know it, Afghanistan ceaces to be the subject of
debate. It seems to me that there is an organized effort in the part
of Ikhwani brothes to submerge any genuine debate about the carnage and
destruction that has been enacted in Afghanistan by Pakistani, Iranian
and Saudi stooges. I am sure there are more parties involved than the 
Ikhwani brothers but their contribution is the most obvious. Maybe to some
of you this seems a little far fetched but I have noticed this once 
too many and maybe you can think of it as one possible motive behind 
the x-postings i.e to discourage the on going debate over some very  
important issues that concern our motherland i.e Afghanistan. 
For a change does anybody have anything to say about 


-- The Peshawar Governor House Accord
-- The set up that calls itself the "Islamic Republisc of Afghanistan"
-- The vague and mysterious promise of elections in Afghanistan
-- The Peshawar seven's stand or point of view of what an election 
   should be
-- The anti Pashton sentiment indirectily expressed and promoted by 
   Gulbudin bashing ==> i.e some peaple do not hate Gulbudin because
   he is a murderer and foreigne stooge but simple because he is Pashtoon.
   ( Now this is a serious issue, because the Afhgans should not judge one
   another  on the basis of race but on the basis of thier deeds towards 
   fellow Afghans and the motherland).
-- The proxi war  ( war over the issue of IMMAMAT) fought by Iranian and 
   Saudi agents in Kabul.
-- The degree of ISI's involvement in the current setup and stand off in
   Kabul.
-- The faith of the Afghan mineral depostis ( looted by Peshawarites and
   currently sold in Peshawar and Karachi ) and the looting of Afghan  
   Museum in Kabul.
-- The new appointements in so called Islamic Republic of Afghanistan's
   embassies in Europe and USA. The character and background of the new
   appointees.
   

As you can see there is a lot to talk about but where is that 
"Sheer Bacha" who can break away from racial, sectarian and other 
opportunistic considerations and talk about these issues like an 
AFGHAN and not like a mouse.                            



H.Abed