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From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: New BIP (Books in Print)
Date: 15 Dec 92 08:13:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 

To: VSGA1001@SMUVM1.BITNET 

WS>Given that the current Bowker BIP product is disliked by many for its
WS>unwieldy interface, as well as being difficult if not impossible to
WS>network, one wonders which company's database engine and interface, etc.
WS>will be used for this new product, as well as the cost and other
WS>pertinent details.  Does anyone out there know anything about this
WS>product?  I have not yet contacted Bowker or Whitaker directly.

The Bowker BIP products use the OnLine database engine (one of the best)
and interface (matter of opinion). They are the same people that produce
OptiNet, and are located in Germantown, MD. They have been producing this 
product for many years, and it is very, very, successful. I'm not sure if
there are significant changes to the previous interface; you can ask. 
Products like this are mainly judged on content and features.

Pricing can be obtained directly from Bowker at (908) 665-6770. They are
located in New Providence, NJ.
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From: zgeo0a@hou.amoco.com (Greg Ochab,PSC)
Subject: Re: CD-ROM from Creative Labs
Reply-To: zgeo0a@hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:27:46 GMT

In article 25300@sol.ctr.columbia.edu, daveyd@stono.cs.cofc.edu () writes:
>Hi
>
>I was thinking of purchasing the cd-rom drive from creative labs, since I
>already own the sound blaster pro, however I saw a post saying not to buy
>that drive, but there were no reasons given.  From what I have seen in
..


I bought the Creative Labs Multimedia Kit, which includes the SBPRO, a
Matsushita (a.k.a. Panasonic) CD-ROM drive (with something like 380ms
access), and some other junk as well. The drive works flawlessly with 
the SBPRO, and the perceptual response time is very good.
The only thing I didn't like (but do now) about the drive, was the
mechanical eject button--however, I've learned the value of absolute control
(I can kick out the CD whenever I want, not whenever the computer lets me!)
I'd probably make the same purchase decision today as I did months ago.


---
Gregory E. Ochab, geochab@hou.amoco.com, 312/856-4889
                                                    Standard disclaimer applies.
From: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: CDROM ATLAS recommend
Date: 15 Dec 92 08:14:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: kirk.jensen@spacebbs.com (Kirk Jensen) 

To: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)

MR>Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
MR>
MR>As a side question, is a CD-ROM world atlas worth it?  Considering that
MR>the CD-ROM atlas that I got (OK, it was surplus and only cost $10.00),
MR>was fairly out of date.  The statistics were from 1987 or so, and it
MR>still showed the USSR and the two Germanies.  I can see using CD-ROM for
MR>shareware programs because I'll want a stable place to pull the programs
MR>from if I have to re-install, but for something like Almanacs, Atlases,
MR>and record books?
MR>
MR>Maybe I'm just the only one who feels this way.  Or perhaps I'm unaware
MR>that the Atlas programs use the CD-ROM as a base reference with disk-based 
MR>update files that the user can purchase to `update' the map images.

Since it costs about the same to make a duplicate CD and a duplicate floppy,
it is likely that updates will always be handled by issuing new CDs.

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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: dimento@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Christian Moskal)
Subject: Adaptec XA CD-ROM driver
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 14:53:57 GMT

Hallo,

yesterday I was over at a friend's appartment and had a look at his new
multisession CD-ROM drive (Toshiba 3301BC, internal) and his new presen-
tation of his company and I was really impressed. Now, I want to buy
such a drive for myself but since I have an Adaptec already installed,
I have asked myself if there was an XA driver available yet. Thus, I
called up Adaptec Germany and asked them what the situation was. They
have told me that they don't plan on programming a XA driver in-house.
Frankly, I was kind of surprised but he added that the new Corel drivers
should be working just fine.

Briefly, I found not a single source here in Germany that was distributing
the Corel drivers. Does anyone have made any experiences using those drivers
in combination with a multisession drive and an Adpatec1542b? Is there a
cheap source in the states where I could inquire for the Corel driver? The
company should take credit cards and accept international orders. Oh, and
I would also need there fax# and 800# if available :)

I am sorry if this was a FAQ. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you in advance,
-- Chris
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#*-->       Internet: dimento@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de, CIS: 111111,111       <--*#
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: liles@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Clifton Liles 282-4736)
Subject: Photo CD Info
Keywords: Photo CD
Organization: MDSSC
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:07:03 GMT

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F.Y.I
There is a review of Kodak Photo CD MD PCD-870 Player and an article on photo
cd in the February "Popular Electronics"  (Vol 10.#2).
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 /^\  Built by the Druids, who didn`t die out, but went bankrupt trying to 
 -=-  debug the software."  
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: max@megatek.com (Max Elliot)
Subject: Re: multi-session - what's different?
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:56:20 GMT

From article <1992Dec14.182303.18272@eng.umd.edu>, by chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV):
> In article <1992Dec14.090229.883@ica.philips.nl> adrie@ica.philips.nl (Adrie Koolen) writes:
> ...
> 
>>The problem is that all the CDROM drives I've tested scan the TOC when a new
>>disc is inserted and know where the lead-out area starts. When a request to
>>read a block beyond the program area is given, the drive rejects it. If the
>>drive doesn't check the block number, you should be able to read all the
>>blocks from the CDROM, so also the other sessions, but...
> 
> My problem here is that you are telling me why most drives can't handle the
> multi-session "standard".  I already understand, and appreciate that problem.
> The question I would like an answer to is: Why didn't the people who made the
> multisession "standard" just store the additional adjustable pointers in a
> hidden file of some sort in the normal program area?  This would have required
> a small change to the software drivers in order to handle multisession, but
> would require no changes to the CDROM drives.
> 
> For instance, they could have defined a hidden file named (for lack of a better
> name) multipch.ptr.  Made the file big enough to hold as many "modifications"
> to the disk as you are willing to allow, and just let the laser "blot" over the
> old pointers that don't apply after the new session to the CDROM.  The software
> driver would have to look at this file on startup, skip over the old pointers
> that have been "blotted" out, and make a table in memory that has the
> pointer adjustments necessary to map the directory to the new session's files.
> 
> This seems to me to be plenty simple, and much more desirable than obsoleting
> everyone's CDROM drive.
> 
> Chuck Harris - WA3UQV
> chuck@eng.umd.edu

  Yeah, why couldn't ISO9660 just specify a place to put a single #@$*&
  link to the *next* volume header!!! It's soooo simple.  But, then again
  if they did intelligent things, they would not be a standards org.

  I propose that the ISO9660 CD standard volume header be modified to 
  include a pointer to the *next* volume header, should one exist. Just
  use one of the more useless fields like 'reserved3' or 'abstract_id'
  for something useful, like 'next_session' !! This 'next_session' 
  would be another ISO9660 *or* HSF primary descriptor. No sweat!

  Geesh, how easy. Old 9660 disks still work, and software updates to
  drivers handle the new multi session.

-Max

> 
> 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: wcsintd7@alfred.carleton.ca (Peter Kuciak)
Subject: NEC CDR-74 drive ...
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:31:16 GMT

Hello all, I am currently purchasing a computer system and soon would
like to add a CD-ROM drive.  Is Adaptec 1542B a good choice for the
NEC cd-rom ?, or is there a better choice ?.  I plan to put a SCSI
hard disk, cd-rom and a tape drive off the controller.  If you have a
comment for me please e-mail, or post.  Thanx.

Peter A. Kuciak               e-mail : wcsintd7@ccs.carleton.ca

.sig on vacation
From: herpst@b56vxg.kodak.com (dan herpst)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: burning worms - cost for burner
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:28:00 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company, Rochester NY
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Dec14.205840.3135@megatek.com>, max@megatek.com (Max Elliot) writes...
>From article <1992Dec8.163821.18077@microware.com>, by troyf@microware.com (Troy Frericks):
>> What is the least expensive way to burn a worm?
> 
>  Magnifying glass. (requires sunny day)
   a drop or two of gasoline and a match,,,,,,,,
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 10:23:55 CST
From: Tom Ascher <U15310@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: STILL LOOKING FOR ATLAS!

I still haven't received one recommendation for an atlas.  It seems
like CD-ROM would be such a natural medium for this!?  Isn't there a
single current world atlas available that would have all the countries and
some reasonable level of political detail available?  No?  Huh?....
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: steve@eastend.uucp (Steven Roth)
Subject: Re: CDROM ATLAS recommendations?
Organization: The East End Computer Ensemble
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:32:49 GMT

In article <Bz0KnA.EB2@cup.hp.com> runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) writes:
>Tom Ascher (U15310@uicvm.uic.edu) wrote:
>>Can anyone recommend a good, solid, complete world atlas on CD-Rom that
>>has detailed maps of all countries?  ...
>
>As a side question, is a CD-ROM world atlas worth it?  Considering that
>the CD-ROM atlas that I got (OK, it was surplus and only cost $10.00),
>was fairly out of date.  The statistics were from 1987 or so, and it
>still showed the USSR and the two Germanies.  I can see using CD-ROM for
>shareware programs because I'll want a stable place to pull the programs
>from if I have to re-install, but for something like Almanacs, Atlases,
>and record books?
>
>Maybe I'm just the only one who feels this way.  Or perhaps I'm unaware
>that the Atlas programs use the CD-ROM as a base reference with disk-based 
>update files that the user can purchase to `update' the map images.
>
>Mark Runyan


I imagine that atlas manufacturers would not charge an exorbitant
update charge for following years' CD ROM disks.  This is certainly true
for some diskette-based atlas makers.

Folks may want to check out update charges before plunking down their
hard-earned bucks on a first version.

Steve Roth
steve@eastend.jpr.com
-- 

_______________________________________________________________________________

Steven Roth, SysOp, Network Node "EastEnd"      Internet: steve@eastend.jpr.com
From: andrew.carpenter@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Andrew Carpenter) 
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Compton's New Media
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:37:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: IDC BBS - Alameda, CA - 510-865-7115
Reply-To: andrew.carpenter@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Andrew Carpenter) 

VA>Does anyone have a phone or fax number for Compton's New Media?  The only
VA>address I have is Solana Beach CA.

Compton's NewMedia
2320 Camino Vida Roble
Carlsbad, CA  92009
Business [1] (800) 532-3766
Business [1] (619) 929-2500


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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: smith@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard Smith)
Subject: MAC PIONEER DRM-600 driver wanted
Summary: Cdn user wants mac Pioneer cd-rom driver
Keywords: mac scsi driver pioneer cd-rom cdrom changer
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:06:07 GMT

We have just acquired a Pioneer DRM-600 multi-cd changer (frmo a
failed PC project) and would like info on (available/best/cheapest)
drivers for this device.

A call to Pioneer of Canada (located in a suburb of Vancouver)
generated a major "*HUH?*" from the tech. He didn't have anything for
us and indicated the drives weren't sold in Canada, even.

Suggestion? We are looking for the whole range of options - free,
features, availability, etc. If the device isn't sold here, and from
what I understand from reading the magazines may be superceded now by
newer models, perhaps drivers aren't available at all?

Hoping for the best,

...r
smith@sfu.ca
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Saturday, 19 Dec 1992 07:28:55 MST
From: <AGCKK@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject:    Average Access Speed

How important it is?

Is there any CD-ROM can NOT be played by a slower drive (say, 500ms
or 600ms)?

For a general "multimedia" CD-ROM, what is the speed requirement?

I'll appreciate any information!
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
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Distribution: alt
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: ppaglia@bnr.ca (Peter Paglia P925)
Subject: CDs for sale    
Keywords: sale CD mammals
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:23:12 GMT

Multimedia Mammals........................$50US
     Act quick and I'll throw in a shareware CD and free shipping!
     The National Geographic Multimedia Mammals CD contains images
     and animations, sound effects and data on dozens of beasts.
     A good value at twice the price!

Winning Elections
     Unopened, looks good though. Lists for $129.00
     but if you act quick I'll let it got for $75.


I have several other CD titles for sale, send Email for a list.

Thanks,
Pete.

.................................................................
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:46:49 EST
From: <DXR8@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Creative Lab's Photo CD Rom Driver

I uploaded Creative Lab's Photo CD ROM Driver to WUARCHIVE:

pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/sbpcdxa.exe

-Brian
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: "david shadoff" <david.shadoff@canrem.com>
Subject: mitsumi and soundblas
Reply-To: "david shadoff" <david.shadoff@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:48:00 EST

In message <1992Dec12.213021.26047#newstand.syr.edu>,
kkingsto@erc.cat.syr.edu (Karl Kingston) writes:

>I have a Mitsumi internal CD drive which works rather well.   I was thinking
>about getting a soundblaster Pro one of these days and was wondering if they
>could co-exist.  A salesman says I need to connect the ribbon cable to the
>SB rather than to the card provided with the CD.

Never trust a salesman.  Even if the ribbon cables were the same size
and shape, there is no reason to believe that the electrical, timing,
and software control characteristics (not to mention the software
drivers) for these beasts are compatible.  You could easily damage
something.  The best bet is to write away to *BOTH* manufacturers to
ask whether (a) they can co-exist, (b) whether you need to remove the
CD-ROM driver card you have now, and (c) if the salesman's advice was
correct (which I doubt).

 - Dave
 
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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: adrie@ica.philips.nl (Adrie Koolen)
Subject: Re: Re : Reading CD-I
Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:50:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.075227.302@mble.philips.be> belgrado@mble.philips.be (Jan Belgrado) writes:
>A CD-I has a mode 2 form1/form2 track on the disc.
>This is an interleaved track ( the data, audio and video are mixed
>in one and the same track.) 
>Since a CD-I player is a computer ( it has a CPU and an operating system ) you
>cannot use it on a non-CD-I compatible computer. 
>Also the OS of a CD-I player is a real-time OS (CD-RTOS, comes from OS/9).
>
>The only disc that goes on CD-I and CD-ROM (XA) is a Photo-CD disc.
>A Photo-CD is a "bridge" disc. It contains a mode 2 track followed by zero or
>more red book audio tracks (CD-Audio).

All CDROM/XA discs should be readable on (CDROM/XA compatible) PCs and CD-I
players. Whether there are applications on the XA disc that can be played on
a CD-I player depends on the author of the CD. PhotoCD is a CDROM/XA on which
a CD-I application is stored, so a CD-I player can play it.

Furthermore, a PhotoCD is a CDROM/XA with one OR MORE mode-2 tracks, followed
by zero or more CD-DA tracks. I've seen a PhotoCD, burned by a Kodak
photoshop, that contained 38 tracks with 103 pictures in total. The first
track contained a file system which points to all 103 picture files.

Adrie Koolen (adrie@ica.philips.nl)
Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven, the Netherlands
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: dan@modcomp.com (Dan Grostick)
Subject: OS/2 success stories?
Organization: MODCOMP, an AEG company
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:04:24 GMT
Keywords: cd-rom OS/2

Are there any OS/2 cd-rom success stories?

-Dan dan@modcomp.com
--
Dan Grostick      Director, REAL/IX, Advanced Operating Systems, MODCOMP  
Telephone: +1 305 977-1558  Uucp: uunet!modcomp!dan 
Facsimile: +1 305 977-1250  Internet: dan@modcomp.com
From: MRS@buc.edu.au (Mark Sullivan)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Audio CD-players as CD-ROMs
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:46:32 GMT
Organization: Ballarat University College
NNTP-Posting-Host: 141.132.12.114
Keywords: CD, CD-ROM

   As a final year project for an Electronic Engineering degree, I am 
thinking about trying to modify an audio CD player to be used as a CD-ROM.  
There are presently many CD-ROMs comercially available which can play audio 
CDs, but I haven't heard of any product which interfaces in the other 
direction.

  This would enable people who already own a CD-player to use it as 
a CD-ROM (obviously with some modifications to the CD player and some 
hardware and software interfacing) rather than shelling out big dollars 
for another device which essentially does the same job (ie. that of reading 
a digital bitstream from a compact disk).

  I was wondering:
		does anyone know of this having been tried before, and if 
			so, how was it done?
		has anyone any thoughts regarding the feasability of such a 
			project?

thanks for your time,
kind regards,
Mark.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: bwilliam@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams)
Subject: Re: Can Kodak photo-cd decoding software be purchased anywhere?
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:59:57 GMT

You cannot get PhotoCD for many computer systems (such as generic UNIX)
because the developers kit (a ridiculous $695) onlyi includes OBJECT CODE
and not source code for the vital parts you want. It has object code for
Macintosh and IBM Clones only. Though Silicon Graohics will probably get
it via their QuickTime licensing from Apple, because Quicktime 1.56
includes IMAGEPAC related stuff.

PhotoCD source will cost you about $100,000.00 from Kodak and that
$100,000.00 only allows you the licensing usage rights, and probably
restricts you from further divulging the patented proprietary file format.

REJECT PATENTED PICTURE FILE FORMATS BEFORE ITS TOO LATE.

Use PICT, GIF, TIFF, EPS, Etc!


Bill Williams

PS (For other info regarding how to get 80% useful source code for PhotoCD
for you few UNIX users out there.... an old repost.....

The only other source code ever distributed for the fascist patented file
format is source code published in alt.sources and ftp-able from a site in
euorope. You heard me correctly... SOURCE CODE!!! Precious source code
that the army of Kodaks lawyers wants to suppress!
 
Hadmut Danisch at Univ. Karlsruhe wrote it and it can be found on :
switek.uni-muenster.de = 128.176.120.210
 
in directory /pub/pictures/PCD.
 
There you will find:
Readme                  something about Copyright
hpcdtoppm.0.1.tar.Z     the source!!!! wostly working.
 
 
do not download large image files over the Internet also found in that
directory.



Enjoy.

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: PAOLIVER@INDYVAX.BITNET
Subject: Re: Problem w/ Kodak Photo-CD
Reply-To: PAOLIVER@INDYVAX.bitnet
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:10:44 GMT

Re: ncpmont@brahms.amd.com's message.

   I'm not sure what you're disagreeing about re: virtual memory. OS/2
probably has a decent virtual memory manager, but the point is that
attempting to manipulate a "master" digital Kodak image all at once takes
an incredible amount of RAM. It has to. Now if you're talking about
display or other processing on just a portion, that's different.
  Given the multiple sized images on a Photo CD disc, I suppose smart
software could pick and choose the appropriately sized bitmap (closest)
required to perform a given display at a given resolution. Which of course
is why Kodak did this in the first place.
  Don't underestimate the widespread deadly influence of the S3 windows
accelerator chip. Keep in mind that most of the drivers out there stem
from a common buggy root. Lots of different video cards use the S3
chip. I've encountered problems with Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 cards as well;
this card also uses S3.
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: JOHN.BOURSY@ISD.IFRB.ITU.ARCOM.CH (John Boursy)
Subject: Drives for writing CD-ROMs
Reply-To: John Boursy <JOHN.BOURSY@ISD.IFRB.ITU.ARCOM.CH>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:20:40 GMT

We are about to purchase the equipment to make our own CD-ROMs,
but we are not yet sure whether to purchase a Phillips or Sony drive.

Does anyone have any ideas about the advantages or disadvantages
of either of these?

Also, does anyone know which is the most popular?

Because I will be on vacation, please respond directly to:

     Internet:        dang@itu.arcom.ch

Thank you for your help.