From: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (JKF)
Subject: What to do with comp.society.folklore (Was: Re: Don't mess with the folklore people)  
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 21:22:14 GMT

In article <dct.724523759@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu> dct@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David C. Tuttle) writes:
>starfish@stein.u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky) writes:
>
>>Well folks, it looks as if the proposal to unmoderate c.s.folklore, etc.,
>>has been killed, and rather decisively at that.  Hopefully, this major
>>anti-hijacking vote tally :) will be the end of the discussion.
>
>Yes, and those of us without access to alt.* will just sheepishly
>crawl back to our cold, drafty little corners of the Interent to face
>the harsh, cruel winter without the creature comforts so jealously
>hoarded by the privileged. *whine* *whimper*
>
>(I'm not really that put out by the vote, I just want to make you feel
>guilty :-).
>
>But seriously, if comp.society.folklore had any traffic at all, this
>whole vote thing probably wouldn't have happened.  So throw us a bone
>once in a while, OK?  (I ask that here since I can't get to the alt
>group directly).

If I understand correctly, part of the reason for comp.society.folklore
never getting any traffic was because the moderator vanished for long
periods and wasn't there to approve posts.  

What should we do now with comp.society.folklore since unmoderating it
unfortunately got mixed in with "let's hijack alt.folklore.computers"?

* The moderator could resign and not make arrangements for a replacement,
  thereby tacitly making it unmoderated.  Apparently a lot of news software
  would never pay attention to this, though, so it's probably not a good
  idea.

* Someone could show the moderator how to set it up so all posts to comp.
  society.folklore are automatically posted.  Apparently this was done
  on some other occasion in another group.

* I've seen newsgroups listed as "defunct" on the news.announce.newgroups 
  list of bogus newsgroups.  Perhaps we could just declare comp.society.
  folklore "defunct" and get rid of it.

* We could have an RFD and subsequent CFV on the subject of rmgrouping
  comp.society.folklore.

By the way, if any news admins out there are STILL muttering to themselves
that they're not going to carry any alt. groups, no sir, no way, can I
just ask "why?"  Clearly there are some people who'd like to read popular
groups such as alt.folklore.computers and alt.folklore.urban, and carrying
them DOESN'T mean that you'll have to carry all alt. groups.  You could
request these two groups, carry them, and ignore all other alt. group
newgroup messages.

People who are at sites where the news admins are STILL refusing to carry
alt.folklore.computers can always telnet to nyx.cs.du.edu, login as guest,
and follow the procedures for creating an account.  You'll need to
download the validation instructions and form and either send in a
notarized copy of the form *OR* send in a personal check (either voided or
for a donation amount -- no donation is required).  You'll be validated
within a short period after your snailmail reaches Denver.  And, despite
what Jay Maynard maintains about always getting login timeouts at Nyx, I
telnet to Nyx several times a day and never get these.  I used to once in
a while before validation was required, but after validation was required,
they stopped occurring.  I suppose that usage dropped somewhat as lazy
users decided they'd go elsewhere rather than send in a voided check or
notarized form.  Regardless, Nyx is a great site to read netnews from and
I've never come across a group I wanted to read that it didn't carry.


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