From: Richard.Rearden.@.914/901@f8.n10.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: Creation vs. evolution
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov  5 1992
Date: 06 Nov 92  03:50:00

        This is the first time I have even read this net and it is fascinating
to read the diversity of messages as well as the diversity of origins of the
messages.  My favorite subject is Creation.  Most of what I read are broken
conversations, but what I get is that that there is little evidence being
given
from either side on this subject, weather scientific or otherwise.
        Just to establish a little basis on the subject.  Last time I was in a
biology
at a local junior college, the instructor, who came highly recommended,
start his class with this statement.  "Evolution is a fact, and there is
nothing
that can prove to me otherwise."  I wish I knew then, what I know now.  But I
did't.  So, hear is intro to Creation 101a.  Is Evolution a fact or theory.
Most will say it's a theory, but there is nothing else to dispute it.  The
true
Evolutionist will state that it is a fact of life.  Christian's, that small
fraction of the world's population, Claim it is a lie, a false teaching,
a sign of the times'.  Here is whatEvolution truly is.  All Evolution is, is
man's attempt to prove there is no God.  You see, given the same facts,  an
evolutionist and a Creationist come up with two different stories.  In fact,
evolution is nothing more that the most modern way to explain where life came
from.  In its own right evolution is a religion.  Unfortunately, most will
deny
that because that would put take it out of the realm of science and fact, and
place it with religion and faith.  So, lets look at the facts.  If I wanted to
prove to somebody I killed somebody yesterday, how would I prove it.  I would
tell you what happened, show you a few items to support my story, and if it
all
stuck together, you would believe
me.  Now lets say I tell you I killed somebody
40 years ago.  I have no evidence to support me, not even a convincing tone.
Would you believe me.  You say no.  Yet, Hitler proved to a nation of people
that the whole Jewish race was inferior and needed to be exterminated.  And he
was almost successful.  So, as even a whole nation can be convinced of a lie.
So can an individual.  Obviously, he must of had facts to support his theory.
And he most of had a convincing tone.  What does this have to do with Creation
and Evolution.  Not a lot, I just want every person to realize that he/she
(must
be politicly correct), can believe a lie no matter how preposterous, if we are
told often enough.  This goes both ways.  Now, back on the subject at hand. 
For
me to prove I have committed a murder, the average person would expect some
proof.  Most would want a lot of proof.  If I showed the you the smoking gun,
where I did it, and how I did it.  Would that prove that I did it?  Or
would that prove only that I knew more about the crime than you.  You would
first question my sanity, and my judgement, but it I explained myself enough
times you would probably believe me.  This is the way it is with evolution.
They claim many facts support their theory,  and the Creationist claim the
same
facts support theirs as well.  You see, Evolution and Creation both similar in
many ways.  Both are based on a belief system of the past.  In other words,
the
claims of both can not be scientifically proven.  A person cannot take a
continent into a lab.  Put pressure on it, and make it divide.  Even if they
could, it still could not prove that is exactly what happened before.  So,
then
we have two theories, one is taught as fact in all the public schools, the
other
is looked upon as a myth, or an allegory at best.  There are many facts to
support both.  But, just as the clues left a t a crime scene don't tell
exactly
how, when or why the crime took place,  you know it did.  For all you can see 
is
the result.  Two different detectives may come up with two different theories.
The irony is that most Evolutionist, refuse to even take the Creationist 's
theory into spectulation.  Nor even the average heathen.  And here is why.
If Creation is true,  then there would have to be a God.  If there is a God,
we would be obligated to follow his rules.  Most people, don't even want to
consider that.  Second, most evolutionists refuse to even admit there are
massive flaws in the evolutionary theory.  Instead they "Preach" it as fact.
Why do you think that is?

 I apologize for the book I just wrote.

 I would like the opinion of an Evolutionist or Two.

 The Conservative Christian.

 Rick Rearden.

 P.S.  I was discussing the topic with a fellow Marine and he said that in a
       labrotory, protein( or maybe amino acids) were created in an experiment
       by duplicating the supposed situation that life was first spaned from
       nothingness.  If anybody has some info or references, I would greatly
       appreciate it. Thankx.

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