From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: mtl.general,can.politics
Subject: Re: Denied access to English schools?
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:43:39 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <1992Aug26.161019.8880@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
>From article <BtLqu0.6Bs@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>, by beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard):
>> In article <BtJvLD.I18@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug25.085646.12416@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
>>>>
>>>>  "speak white" - interesting choice since Quebec's limitation on access
>>>>  to English schools is similar to that for access to "white" schools in
>>>>  South Africa.
>>>>
>> 
>> Thus, Potter brought in the comparison between Quebec and South Africa.
>> For me, such comparison is exactly as comparing Quebec and Nazi laws.
>> In other words, since some dumb or limited minded racists are doing
>> some nit-picking about someone who MADE THE EFFORT of using their
>> language, seems to be revolting that I used the word NAZI, I will explain.
>> QC and S.A. are very far from being comparable, just like QC and NAZI
>> are also far from being comparable.  But, why, if it is not by racism,
>> do you made such a comparison?
>
>  I was not comparing Quebec to Nazi Germany. I was comparing the
>  restriction on access to English schools in Bill 101 with the
>  restriction on access to "white" schools in S.A.
>
>  If you say it is also comparable to Nazi Germany, that is your 
>  opinion - I didn't say it.
>
The point I wa~ making is the situation is S.A. and Quebec are not 
comparable.  [1] Black are majority in S.A., anglos are minority here.
[2] Social status of Black in S.A. in regards of white is like comparing
VOlks to Cadillac.  Social status depending on language in Quebec is nothing
comparable.  [3] Blacks were in S.A. thousands of years before White.
Anglos get in 2 centuries ago.  [4] Before 1976, the Quebec situation
was closer to S.A. in that a minority was controlling most industries
and applying racism against the majority.

If explaining things in English is not enough for you to understand,
even if my English is quite limited, it is useless to discuss that, no ?
>
>  C'est avec plaisir que j'essai d'ameliorer ma francaise. La Joual est
>  un dialecte d'inte're^t peut-etre, mais ce n'est pas la francaise que
>  j'ai appris a l'ecole en Angleterre.
>
>  French is not my mother tongue and I didn't have the opportunity to
>  study it but for 1 or 2 hours per school day between ages of 11
>  and 16.

Tu as 3 occasions (2 de plus que moi) pour pratiquer : avec ton fils
qui va a l'ecole, avec tes collegues de travail et en postant des
articles en francais.

>  What a great opportunity for them to learn French!
>
>  Why do you turn an opportunity into a legal obligation?
>
>  What anglophones said or said not to francophones some 30 odd years ago
>  has nothing to do with whether my children should be able to go to
>  school in their own language.

It has because yesterday explains today.
>
>  Unless, as I think I have understood from your previous postings, you
>  hold my 6 year old son (born to parents who emigrated here from 
>  England after the 1980 referendum) somehow responsible for what you
>  perceive to be the sins of the anglophones of the past here.
>
>  Am I getting through?  (Probably not)
>-- 
>  ///==================================================================\\\
>  ||| Steve Potter:         steven%spxtech@CAM.ORG                     |||
>  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
>  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||

On a la quelqu'un qui est venu au Quebec pour que ses enfants apprennent
le francais (il nous l'a repete) et qui se plaint parce que ses
enfants doivent aller a l'ecole francaise!  Un bon sujet pour rec.humor ;^)

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