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From: kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge)
Subject: Re: Star Trek heaven
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 13:27:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.142627.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu>, bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
|> 
|> Kevin, you're missing some...TNG reruns are shown at 5:00PM AND 12:30AM
|> every week day in Philly.  (Oh, but maybe one of those times shows the
|> same episodes as WPIX in New Jersey) and Sundays at noon the Saturday night
|> TNG is reshown (or weren't you counting rebroadcasts in the same week?)

Actually, I'm not missing any.  About a month ago, WTXF in Philadelphia
replaced their TNG offering at 12:30am with TOS.  Up until then, your 
statement above was correct: they used to offer 2 TNGs per day at those 
times.  Now TNG is only on in Philly at 5pm weeknights.

And I'm not counting reboadcasts either since WPIX in NYC (7pm) and WTXF 
in Philly (5pm) are usually showing TNGs in different seasons from each 
other.

|> > That comes to a whopping grand total of 18 ST (good spread too: 11 TNG, 
|> > 7 TOS) episodes per week, usually more than one per day at different 
|> > times as well.
|> 
|> Well, if you count the same show in the same week (gives you more chances to
|> catch it!) it pushes the total up to 24 ST slots a week in New Jersey!

Nope, still 18, but nothing to complain about at all.

|> Greg Bole                               "When you wake up, wipe the slugs off

-- 

Kevin H. Klinge
Bell Communications Research
kevink@soac.bellcore.com
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From: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Subject: Re: Alas, poor Worf
Reply-To: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:50:24 GMT


In a previous article, schamber@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (CHAMBERLAND S - BIOLOGY) says:

>In article <1992Jul25.124939.2056@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson) writes:
>>
>>Come to think of it, I can't recall one time when I saw Worf win.
>>I thought Klingons were the warriors of warriors.
>
>What about "Reunion" (the TV episode, not the book)?
>
>He killed Duras... but of course, his opponent was another Klingon... ;-)

Sadly, yes, I realized my mistake, but I was able to rationalize it
as you did...  :)
-- 

                        [currently under construction]
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Julie Bixby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Rankings, polls, lists...ENOUGH!
Date: 25 Jul 92 03:00:16 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

AAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! I can't take any more. You all must have election-poll
fever, debating:

O'brien's rank
Troi's (fill in the blank :-)
Hotest babe
etc.
ad nauseum! I know it's summer reruns, but SHEEESH. Give it a rest ('til
next summer, hi).


-- 
Julie Bixby                        Internet: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu
Engage Romulan .sig cloaking device....
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:21:01 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:

>As a Visionary of the Future, I strongly resent your comments!  Clearly,
>you are not Of the Body.  You must be expunged.

Resistance is useless.

--
Stef                 Where am I going, and what am I doing in this handbasket?
stef@apple.com
From: mdm@Apple.COM (Michael McDaniel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: l/f Stereo TNG in SF Bay Area
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:19:07 GMT
Reply-To: Michael.D.McDaniel@dartmouth.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College


Hey y'all!

I'm new to the Bay area and am looking for a source for STTNG.  I know
channel 44 broadcasts it, but I don't think 44 is stereo.  Any ideas?

BTW, I'm sorry for sending this to the whole usa, but I am afraid that
if I limit distribution to "ca" that I'll just send it to Canada.

Cheers!

Michael
-- 
Michael D. McDaniel                          mdm@dartmouth.edu
 Enterprise Systems Division, Apple Computer -- Star Trek Fan
==============================================================
Worf: "What a horrible way to die."
--Worf, "The Royale", Stardate 42625.4
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From: zerobeat@intacc.uucp (Ferenc Szabo)
Subject: Doohan & DeLancie convention info
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:37:42 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS

Toronto Trek VI (July 24-26) featured James Doohan (Scotty) and
John DeLancie (Q) as guests of honor.  Also Dave McDonell (editor
of Starlog) and Jan Friedman (author of several ST novels).

James Doohan will be filming a TNG episode from August 8-16.  He
will appear as Scotty at his current age.  It will involve some
kind of transporter accident (in his time).  He has not seen the
script and could offer no extra info.  He had never heard of plans
for Scotty to be in Deep Space Nine.

Doohan is the one who came up with the warp formula....ie Warp
1 = the speed of light, Warp 2 = 2 cubed * speed of light, Warp
3 = 3 cubed * speed of light etc.... (did I get this right???)
He seems very much into the science and technology of ST.

He said a lot of bad things about Shatner.  But I'm supposed
to talk about things you don't already know.

He does NOT know anything about STVII, but is ready and
willing to do it.  He is also open-minded about the idea
of being in DSN.

John DeLancie was originally going to be filming a Q episode
starting July 29 but it got cancelled because the script wasn't
quite ready.  He doesn't know what the script was, nor does he
know when it will be ready.  But he loves doing them and will
continue to be ready and willing.

DeLancie has never been a big TV watcher and didn't know anything
about the original series.  He only saw a couple of the ST movies
by the time he filmed Encounter At Farpoint.  After filming the
first couple of Q episodes, somebody showed him 'The Squire of
Gothos' and he was quite surprised at the similarities between
Trelane and Q.

Delancie has filmed some TV show with Jennifer Hetrick (Vache).
He said watch the show to find out what Q and Vache went off
to do.  Can't remember the show.


Brent Spiner, Michael Dorn and Patrick Stewart have not yet
signed on for a 7th season.  Everyone else has.  Not to say
the big three won't eventually, it's just that Data and Worf
makeup are taking its toll, and Patrick Stewart wants to
further expand his horizons with more stage acting and other
things.  However,  Stewart was so pleased with 'Inner Light'
that a new light has been shed.

Rumours Rumours Rumours Rumours............::::::::::::::

James Earl Jones to play Captain Benjamin Sisko in DS9.
The guy who plays MGyver to play " " " " " " " " " " ".
Lou Gosset Jr. to play           " " " " " " " " " " ".

Fact Fact Fact Fact Fact Fact.............:::::::::::::::

The guy who directed 'Yesterday's Enterprise' will direct
the pilot for DS9.  The screenplay is by Rick Berman and
Michael Piller.  

Paramount is extremely tight-lipped about upcoming episodes
so no further info was available.

ferenc
From: mikes@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Sherman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Time's Arrow II (*SPOILER*)
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:19:29 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute


















Will Data's head be used to replicate Troi's hooters?
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From: rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good)
Subject: Re: "Data's Head II" (aka Time's Arrow II)
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 01:53:11 GMT

Stephen Hite writes
> In article <1992Jul13.140552.14564@wpi.WPI.EDU> patrickd@hikita.WPI.EDU  
(Lazer) writes:
> >In article <1992Jul13.072433.16704@engr.latech.edu> bronson@engr.latech.edu  
(Patrick K. Bronson) writes:
> >>In article <1992Jul13.041135.18631@wpi.WPI.EDU> patrickd@wpi.WPI.EDU  
(Lazer) writes:
> >Ok, so they go shift phase THEN go 500 years into the future.  (The portal  
is
> >revealed after shifting phase.)  Sure Geordi has his phase thingie, but not
> >the posts that made the "laser square" they stood inside.  That's what  
Data's
> >making!


Okay, please don't flame me cuz I just found this group today...

Have they already done the second episode to this one??
I thought this was the 'season clincher' and we would have to wait until  
October or something to see the conclusion.

Just curious...

--

Joseph Good
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| Green Dot Brigade | - It's a whole damn army of dots...
+-------------------+ - And we've declared war on the 7-Up dots...

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From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Newthread: TNG Fashion
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:42:07 GMT

New thread here.  This may have been discussed previously, but I'm new
to the newsgroup and haven't seen anything on this yet.

Does anyone besides me wonder why the off-duty and civilian fashions
on TNG are so incredibly DULL?  No colors, fabrics that look like 
automobile upholstery, and lots of Issey Miyake rip-off designs.

Did someone in the future decide that it was dangerous to ones' health
to wear interesting clothing?  Everything is so muted and mono-tonal,
like elevator music for the body.  The only halfway decent design I've
seen was the Metamorph's dress from The Perfect Mate.  Good use of fabric,
color, and line (I'm talking about her every-day dress, not the "Vogue"
bridal gown.)

Rats, now that I've got this done, I realize it may belong on a different
newsgroup, maybe startrek.misc.  Sorry if I offend anyone

Kellie M-S
CU-Boulder
From: althof5805@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Re: Sirtis's English accent
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:18:38 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Okay, okay...This is in response to responses made to my earlier posting
regarding Marina Sirtis's accent.

1)  Perhaps Sirtis's *natural* accent *is* of Greek origin (as someone so
kindly suggested), but I must point out that the interview *I* saw showed a
very comfortable Sirtis (*not* Troi) speaking with a very easy English accent
that boardered on cockney.  Having spent some time in England, I assure
you...it *was* English.  I do *not* guarantee that the goddess of accents was
not "putting on airs," but, IMHO, her accent is obviously still questionable
and I will calm the waters by saying "I don't know *what* kind of accent that
is!"  My earlier opinion was based on one sighting of what I assumed to be a
normally speaking Sirtis.

2)  Thanks to Hilary for questioning my question on Picard's English accent.  I
must concur that Troi's accent is most creative in that it gives an idea at
least of how English would be spoken by non-Earth language speakers (and it's
fun to try and imitate at parties!).  However, does anyone have any ideas as to
why Lwaxana Troi does not have a similar accent (nor did the other Betazoids
TNG crew have encountered)?  I'm not slamming Troi--I think her accent is cool
and I wouldn't want it changed.  Nor am I slamming Majel Barret--after all, she
is Mrs. R.  I just would like to see some creative thinking for reasons!

3)  Thanks also to Hilary for making me think harder about Picard's accent. 
Not that I would *ever* change Patrick Stewart's accent--it is just too
beautiful (the result, I believe, of Shakespearean acting experience--check out
the "My love is a fever" speech to L. Troi).  But...we know that France is
still French-speaking from the "We'll Always Have Paris" episode.  And...we
know that the other Picard (Robert) does *not* have an English accent. 
Theories?  Hypotheses?  It doesn't really matter...it's just interesting to
notice.  I'm not trying to gritch at the writers or the actors.  I'm just
looking at interesting little "incongruities" that could use the help of
creative Trekkers for explanations.

How about--Picard was kidnapped as a child and raised by a troupe of vagabond
renegade Shakespearean cult members?

Peace in the galaxy.
--Stephanie
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.current:10746 rec.arts.startrek.misc:7613 rec.arts.startrek.tech:4283
From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:09:46 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Jul25.172053.24591@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:
>
>3) When the Klingons were under 0 g and were shoot they were thrown backwards.
>Why should this be? A phaser beam has no mass, thus no momentum! By the law of
>momentum they should have stayed exactly where they were 0 g or not.
>

Light has energy, too, and therefore momentem as a result.  It can be
assigned an equivalent mass using E=mc^2.  Thus its momentum, in a
classical sense, is mc (or E/c).  Since a phaser beam is supposed to
pack a lot of energy, it should have momemtem too, and cause a recoil
for the person holding the weapon (just like firing a conventional
gun or rifle). SF movies often forget about this.



-- 
Tom Kuchar			  
kuchar@buast7.bu.edu		  -or-                      kuchar@plh.af.mil
Department of Astronomy		                     Phillips Laboratory/GPOB
Boston Univerity		                                  Hanscom AFB
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Love that counselor
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:43:17 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Jul13.211140.18946@anasaz> kenw@qip.UUCP (Ken Wilkerson) writes:
>In article <plp1.710635608@Ra.MsState.Edu> plp1@Ra.MsState.Edu (pat parker) writes:

>>Troi (the character) is wonderful, one of the most promising characters
>>on the show.  You really can't blame the poor, imaginary girl just
>>because the writers who write her parts are clueless.

>Yes you can! If see was a serious actress she would complain to the directors,
>writers and producers until she got some decent lines.

She HAS.  As early as the first season, she started telling the producers
what she didn't like about her role -- and you'll notice how much they've
listened.  She has won a couple of victories -- they ditched her original
outfit, and they have done a lot more Troi-as-counselor episodes instead of
Troi-as-repeater-of-the-obvious.  She's still waiting for a really brilliant
script about her and her imzadi, though.
From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: New TNG Characters
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:10:42 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In <14753@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:

>In article <saurav.712518141@cory.Berkeley.EDU> saurav@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Saurav Chatterjee) writes:

>>If Picard leaves (it would be a shame),
>>then they should have Riker as captain and Shelby as first officer.
>>The reverse is possible, but unlikely since in the Borg episode
>>Riker was clearly above her in rank.

>But that does bring up an interesting possibility for a story... after
>her meteoric rise in Starfleet following her stellar handling of the
>rebuilding of the Federation fleet after the Borg attack (after all,
>everything seemed back to normal three episodes later), CAPTAIN April
>Shelby is transferred to the Enterprise.  Riker gets stiffed once again
>for the captain's chair and finds himself as first officer to the woman
>he'd viewed as a cold-blooded b*tch.  It wouldn't last long, but it
>would certainly do a lot in adding conflict and character to the show... :-)

Maybe that would finally push Riker into accepting a real captain's position.
Like one not on the Enterprise.  Please.

--PC
From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: deep space nine
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:05:16 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>In the Star Fleet Battles universe, the capital is named "Klinshai".

In the Star Trek Maps: The Navigational Charts Of The Five-Year Voyage
Of The Starship Enterprise (as discussed in r.a.s.m), the Klingon home
planet is known as Kazh.  Strangely enough, however, all the charts and
maps label the home planet as simply Klingon and not Kazh, and the only
mention of Kazh is in a small paragraph.  Although the Romualan symbol
is totally wrong (or changed between TOS and TNG), they at least got the
Romualan home planet right -- Romulus.


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Calling from Markham, Ontario CANADA.  It's not cold though!  :-)
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From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Who was the guy in Star Trek 6???
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:09:34 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <55127@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, falatic@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MacGyver) writes:
|> 
|> 	Who was the actor who played the Klingon Warrior in Star Trek
|> 6? The guy with the eyepatch, and the shakespearian quotes? 
|> 		Please reply via E-Mail
|> 		-Marty
|> 			falatic@mentor.cc.purdue.edu

Christopher Plummer  Great Job.
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From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Subject: Re: Where they go in TUC--SPOILER!
Keywords: peter pans a fairy
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:59:33 GMT

In article <63951@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul20.154732.5684@iscsvax.uni.edu> althof5805@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>>WARNING!!!!!  This entry contains a SPOILER in disguise!  If you haven't seen
>>>STVI:TUC yet, don't spoil your fun by reading this!
>
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>>>Was it blatently obvious to *everyone* in the theatres that Kirk's last
>>>"official" line in TUC is a direction for the heading "Second star on the
>>>right...and straight on 'til morning."  This heading would take them, of
>>>course, to the legendary home of Peter Pan--NeverNeverLand.
>
>Maybe it's just me, but I thought it was because of the fact that they're
>all getting so old. :-)  Seriously, in STII:TWoK, Kirk talks about feeling
>old.  He must be feeling even older by now!  And in Never Never Land, no
>one grows old.
>
>Or, maybe I'm just reading waaaay to much into it. :-)

Well, if you are, then so am I.  That was my interpretation of the
ending.  As I recall, right before Kirk has that line, they receive the
message from Starfleet headquarters to return and be retired. They all 
hated the thought of growing old and retiring, so Kirk was humourously
suggesting that they go to a place where they could keep flying
starships and going on missions forever.

>-- 
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>Office of Information Technology | "Guile."
>ccoprdj@prism.gatech.edu         |      -- Riker and Worf   "Peak Performance"


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From: dpe@inel.gov (Don Palmrose)
Subject: Re: Poker
Organization: INEL EG&G Idaho
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 19:20:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.213426.6344@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, 
sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Elizabeth E Sack) writes:
> 

Previous discussion on Geordi reading cards deleted for space.
 
> 
> The sign was readable because the black letters absorbed the heat from the Sun
> while the white backround reflected it.  This could also hold true for the cards
> Assuming the cards are white with red and black ink (as most cards are), the 
> two colors, since they are darker than white, would hold any heat given off
> by the lights in the room (if the lights give off heat).
>                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

It is not just the IR energy given off by the lights, but also the photons of
light being aborbed by the different colors on the cards.  By absorbing the 
photons, the material becomes warmer.  Thus, not only could Geordi read the
cards (if they are not of a special design, such as braile (sp?) cards) if a
player does not constantly palm them (could he see them as they are dealt?);-)
but he can also "read" their faces to tell whether or not they are bluffing !

Food for thought.

Don Palmrose
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From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:21:52 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Jul26.004839.17813@chili.cc.lehigh.edu> learnd@lafcol.lafayette.edu (Dave Learn) writes:
>In article <1992Jul25.172053.24591@umbc3.umbc.edu>, cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:
>>3) When the Klingons were under 0 g and were shoot they were thrown backwards
>>Why should this be? A phaser beam has no mass, thus no momentum! By the law 
>> of momentum they should have stayed exactly where they were 0 g or not.
>
>Lasers have no mass--phasers are phased matter and energy, and have been
>shown to exert a physical force.  See ST3:TSFS, where Kirk fires a phaser
>at a Klingon on Genesis.  The Klingon is thrown back against a tree and
>presumably dies on impact or in the air.  But the phaser blast threw him a
>good distance.
>     Even if phasers did not exert a mass, there is another perfectly good
>reason for this.  When the assassins shot Gorkon et al, bodily fluids
>burst through the wounds, and for every action there is a reaction, equal
>in force and opposite in direction.
>

Think about this for a moment.  If Klingons had the mass of a typical
human male (say 160lb = 70kg, not even counting body armour), their
blood would have spirt out at 200 meters/sec to get them going at 1/3
m/s (ie, a foot per sec) in the opposite direction.  That's assuming
they lose a kilogram of blood, which is an awful lot.  Bleeding
in one direction would not give sufficient action in one direction
to cause a very noticable reaction.  The major effect is from the
phaser beam itself.

-- 
Tom Kuchar			  
kuchar@buast7.bu.edu		  -or-                      kuchar@plh.af.mil
Department of Astronomy		                     Phillips Laboratory/GPOB
Boston Univerity		                                  Hanscom AFB