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From: jerrett@iastate.edu (Gregory A Jerrett)
Subject: Re: Dune
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:50:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.053023.15381@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:

>     Did anyone besides me ^like^ _Dune_??

Yes.  I understand that David Lynch was unhappy about the final product
but I thought it was a better than average attempt to adapt a novel
which was considered unadaptable.  
I was lucky to see the extended version, which was rough but contained some 
scenes from the book previously excluded from the film.
I have also heard that Lynch has always been interested in doing
Franz Kafka's "Metamorphosis."  Lynch said he probably would never  
get to do it, however, because he would not be able to find an insect of that
size that would work for reasonable pay.
Frankly, I would like to see him take a crack at it.  If anybody can do it,
he can.

Greg Jerrett
jerrett@iastate.edu
"Now, it's dark."
From: jj2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer Badilla Joson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Twin Peaks Timeline?
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:26:25 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


To the person who posted the four or five timelines of Twin Peaks:

    Would it be possible to send me or post the timelines back on the
board. I didn't get a chance to read all of it and would be extremely
happy if I got the chance to. To whoever compiled the timelines....
awesome job! I especially liked the prequel timeline.

                                                        Thanks in advance,
                                                              Jennifer Joson   
                                    
                                                            
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: mam28@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Did you watch the last episode of "Nightmare Cafe"?
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:16:48 GMT

I believe the LMFAP also appeared.
-- 
mam28@cas.bitnet
All opinions expressed are my own.
From: drewds@peptide.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Southwood)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: The Complete Poem.
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:22:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr7.212223.28648
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

Doesn't the Alternate Version of the 1st episode of twin peaks relate what
cooper said happened in his dream in the 4th episode??  Why was it spliced
up for television?
In the alternate version, instead of seeing Jacoby's hand take the necklace
at the end, we see Laura Palmers mother having a vision of someone walking
upstairs.  
We see Laura's room and Bob is crouched behind the bed.
Then we see the one-armed man call agent cooper, and say something about
Theresa Banks and the 'red stitches'.
Then there is an incredibly stupid scene where Andy plays trumpet and
Lucy talks to Truman on the phone.      
Then Cooper confronts the one-armed man at the hospital.
The One-armed man recites the poem at the hospital along with some other
dialog interjected in between.  The One-Armed man identifies Bob as
the killer.
The One-armed man says Bob is in the basement of the hospital now.
Cooper,Truman and the one-armed man go into the basement.
We see Bob hunched near a circle of 12 candles.
Bob says his part of the poem (with extra lines)
something like.....  I'll run to you scallywag
                     Voices   ? , birds call
                     Catch you with my death bag.
The one armed man runs into the room and shoots Bob.
Bob falls to the floor and the one armed man also falls saying 'It hurts.'
Cooper says 'Make a wish'.  The candles blow out.
The screen says '25 YEARS LATER'
We see the dream sequence with the midget and Laura.
(The only difference is that the midget pauses to hold Lauras hand in one
place.)
Then at the end the midget gets up and does a dance to the ending credits.

(Odd how many things seem to have happened either 25 years ago or 25 years
in the future in twin peaks.)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: kbays@bluemoon.rn.com (Ken Bays)
Subject: a scene in the European version
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 02:48:20 EDT

 
Somebody recently mentioned the European version of the pilot, and it 
reminded me of something.  Did anyone else think that the scene in which 
Sarah Palmer sees the vision of BOB crouching behind Laura's bed was an 
incredibly scary scene?  For some reason, that really made me shiver.  I'm 
not even sure I can explain it, it's just sort of... primal may be the 
word I'm looking for.  Lynch is good at that sort of thing.  There's just 
something about Sarah seeing a strange man so close to her daughter's bed, 
a stranger in such a familiar place... a place where the police have 
examined thoroughly finding nothing, and yet THERE HE IS.  Anybody else 
think so?
 
Ken
UN037455@wvnvms.wvnet.edu


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From: eireann@triton.unm.edu (The Fisher King)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: FWWM Query
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:09:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.b=2jmjq
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Some time back a couple of things were posted about FIRE WALK WITH ME,
namely a cast list (from the laser disc set, if I recall correctly)
and a very skeletal plot synopsis.

I was wondering: would whoever posted these two things please mail
them to me (via e-mail, o.c.)? And also please tell me where you got
the plot info?

You see, my friends don't believe ***anything*** I've been telling them
about the movie. It's been a difficult time ever since I cried "Wolf"
in re the episode featuring the spider woman and all that.


-- 
eireann@triton.unm.edu               /\        FORNIT
really: The Fisher King             /  \           SOME
from: The Waste Land               / () \            FORNUS
fornit: Delphe                    /______\   
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: cs012112@cs.brown.edu (Lee Jack Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Blue Velvet/Twin Peaks vs. Wild at Heart
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:27:42 GMT

In article <92104.164101SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu>, <SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
|>     I think that Wild at Heart was David Lynch's stab at trying something diffe
|> rent, and as for the plot, I don't really feel that he could be blamed, as he
|> lifted it from a book (name and author escapes me at this time).
Actually, i heard that Barry Gifford, the author of Wild At Heart, disliked
Lynch's screen adaptation of his novel.  Can anyone confirm that?

As for blame, I don't agree that there should be blame.  Wild At Heart is an
EXCELLENT book without standard plot devices, and I feel the same about the
movie.  The book, IMHO, was better for one reason and one reason only: Sailor
and Lulu don't get back together in the end.  David's self-mocking
super-sickly-sweet ending was a little much for me, although it was good for a
laugh.  Just had a thought- could he have been making fun of happy endings?
I can see that. Hmm.

|> ... There was just something about th
|> e sex scenes in there. Maybe it has something to do with Laura Dern. Hmmm...
A complete aside:  See Rambling Rose if you like Dern's sexiness!

-MDJ aka jack

"Get a life, punk!"-Albert

Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
From: smclewin@ultrix.ramapo.edu (Scooter McLune)
Subject: Re: Wild at Heart
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:13:07 GMT

drewds@peptide.ecn.purdue.edu (David A Southwood) writes:

>Also, I'd like someone to explain the movie Wild at Heart to me.  To me it
>seems like one of the stupidest movies I've ever seen in my life, whereas
>Blue Velvet was one of the neater ones.  (but well underneath Basic Instinct)
>What is the point of Wild at Heart?? (except for more fire symbolism).


What exactly did you like about Blue Velvet, since there are
many similarities. Both deal with the things in life that are
present but seldom dealt with--at least in American cinema,
which is probably the Academy breezed over Wild at Heart, and 
it was given the top honors at Cannes. Both had two young op-
timistic lovers trying to prevent the world from collapsing
around them and bringing them down with it. Lynch has a unique
perspective about the world, I think, and I enjoy the places
he takes me--and even if I don't enjoy them, like Frank in BV
or Bobby Peru, I enjoy the way Lynch shows them to me. 
There are many ways to look at the movie, however. One could
strictly look at the love between Sailor and Lula, which is
uncompromising and unconditional. One could see it as a social
commentary, with the darker sides of our world representing
our world as a whole. One could only think of it as an experi-
ment in effects-- what exactly would the effect be if we slowly
fade between Powermad--speed metal--and adagio for strings, while
Sailor and Lula silently profess their love for eachother in
front of a raging sunset? I don't know. let's find out. Or you
could go a step furthur and say that Lynch did know and it makes
sense to him, and it just so happens others like it as well.
All in all I respect Lynch as an artist, which is more than I
can say for Mr. Verhoeven, who has not made a movie yet that
said something I hadn't heard before. I don't think he would
have the gumption to hire the daughter of one of the most re-
spected actresses of all time (Isabella Rosselini) and then
make her so completely odd looking as to be funny. I can't 
really say that for sure of course, but really, what's more
real to life? A love that everyone wants to see fail, or a
murder whodunit with impossibly handsome and sexy people
portraying composite characters with scores of improbable
people serving as backdrop? I just respect the sheer talent
Lynch has for effect. I don't think I really did a good enough
job of explaining the movie, and I don't think anyone could.
Just like you couldn't explain to me why you think I should
like Basic Instinct, I couldn't explain to you why I think
Wild at Heart is one of the best movies of our time, as far
as actually making the kind of movie that one intended.



Jeremy Mullen
(on a friend's account)
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: HELP!  Missing two episodes from my collection
Date: 11 Apr 92 14:17:32 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr11.015448.4423@digifix!uunet.ca>, digifix!sanguish@uunet.ca (Scott Anguish) writes...

} In article <1992Apr10.164116.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>  writes:

}} I would really like to get a good copy of these (like, from those nifty  
}} laserdiscs). 

} are the episodes available on VideoDisc yet, and if so, from who??

I guess you're either new or weren't paying attention a couple of months
ago. The entire (except for the original broadcast version of the pilot**)
series was released in a single 15-disc boxed set in Japan at the tail
end of last year. Price is 518,000 Yen, which, depending on how the
exchange rate is doing, and how much the dealer you order it through
wants to mark it up after paying for shipping and import duty, can run
you anywhere in the $500-700 range.

Rumor has it that Lumivision has been negotiating with Worldvision Home
Video (owner of the rights to the series) for the rights to a domestic
set of the series on laserdisc, but I've heard nothing in the past month
as to how it's going. No official announcements have been made about
if, when, how, or how much?

My take: Judging by Lumivision's general pricing scheme, I would bet on
their charging $35 for a 2-episode disc. Which means that if they release
it as a single 15-disc set, as in Japan, you're talking $525. But knock
off a little, assuming that they'll offer a price break on such a one-shot
deal. That's not really a whole lot better than the price for a Japanese
set. Of course, the advantage would be not having to put up with Japanese
kanji subtitles, but they don't bother me a whit. On the other hand, the
advantage of the Japanese set is that you have it *now* (well, *you* can't,
but I do), instead of in some nebulous, indefinite future. And if Lumivision
decides to release them a disc or two at a time over a long stretch, it'll
be even longer to accumulate a whole set.

** The original broadcast version of the pilot is not available anywhere
   in the world in any format on commercially-released home video. Unlike
   the rest of the series, Worldvision does not have the rights to the
   pilot, which are held by Warner Home Video. And Warner had decided to
   release the extended home-video version of the pilot instead of the
   broadcast version. I have the Japanese laserdisc of the extended pilot,
   but it's also available on disc in the US.

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: tswingle@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Tom Swingle)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon,rec.arts.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Re: Fifi Ramblings
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:06:11 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

In article <01GIIVK3E54GBESFHG@ulkyvx.bitnet> JALEIT01@ULKYVX03.LOUISVILLE.EDU ("FIFI LAFUME ", SEXIUS SKUNKIUS) writes:
>In article <01GIDGRGZ0WGB8JXIC> schwae@aix.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz) writes:
>>In article <01GIDGRGZ0WGB8JXIC@ulkyvx.bitnet> JALEIT01@ULKYVX03.LOUISVILLE.EDU ("FIFI LAFUME ", SEXIUS SKUNKIUS) writes:

[ ... ]

>>I still say it is a pleasant aroma.  And one I'd love to wear on myself.
>>Butane thiol is oxygen to my lungs.  *le sigh* 
>
>Uhmm, we will not got into how you came about this mutation, but I know I could
>stand the odor if that ment I could be around Fif.  Some people can't stand the
>odor, go figure. :-\

[ ... ]

Actually, I remember reading that a skunk will have no odor until actually
threatened, so even if you didn't like the odor, you should still be able to
be around her, you would just have to be *REAL* careful not to upset her :-) .

This was from a story in Reader's Digest about a woman who had a skunk for many
years as a pet, and the skunk never had any odor except for one time when it
got trapped under the covers of her bed and sprayed in panic... it was really 
funny because the end result was the skunk had sprayed itself and as it turns
out they don't like the smell either... the skunk was frantically trying to 
wash itself to get rid of the smell afterwards.  (Tell it to try some tomato
juice :-) ).

Sorry... a little off the subject, but good news to all the Fifi fans out 
there!  (I'm included in that group, BTW.)
-- 
"The problem you are experiencing is  |  "To be sure of hitting the target, 
not with the network nor with the     |  shoot first and, whatever you hit, 
station.  Please adjust your set."    |  call it the target." 
More ramblings from: tswingle@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu/tswingle@bigbird.cs.ohiou.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: schwae@aix.rpi.edu (Eric A. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Warner Bros. finds alt.tv.tiny-toon! (sorta)
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:47:52 GMT

Totally cool. :-)
From: bell@cs.tamu.edu (Will B Bell)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Toon villains & R&B (was Re: Serving two masters...)
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:19:22 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX

In article <1992Apr16.211029.16947@muddcs.claremont.edu> tbrowne@jarthur.claremont.edu (T. Erik Browne) writes:
>In article <12473@tamsun.tamu.edu> bell@cs.tamu.edu (Will B Bell) writes:
>>We just got 101 Dalmatians the other day.  I haven't stopped singing the
>>Cruella de Vil song yet.  She is probably my favorite toon villain ever.
>
>I have to disagree here.  Maleficent, from Sleeping Beauty is my favorite.

Ah!  I've never seen this film.  But wait, I'm sure we'll buy it soon....

>I was unaware that Disney had anything to do with R&B.

The R&B tapes are on Buena Vista Home Video, which is just another way of
saying Disney.  Kind of like Touchstone Pictures or Hollywood Pictures.

And, the little fliers that they enclose with the Disney tapes have all sorts
of Disney/Buena Vista/Touchstone films in there.  I guess they are trying for
maximum appeal with this ad.

WBB
--
Will Bell -- bell@cs.tamu.edu -- Gasp! and Drool!
Don't talk to me now, I have a haddock.
From: dgm5@CUNIXB.CC.COLUMBIA.EDU (Douglas G Moody)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Hey there, toonsters!
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:02:37 GMT

Thanks for the hot tip, guys!  I have been enviously reading
alt.tv.tiny-toons for about a month now, but my paranoid network here
at school won't let me post at any level above campus local.  Just when
I was wondering if there was any way around this rule, it was posted! 
Again, thanks for empowering one formerly silent toonster.  I was
recently turned on to TTA by another member of the group, and quickly
realized that it represented the zenith of contemporary animation.  I
haven't been able to watch it regularly, but I did buy my own copy of
HISMV.  I only hope that in time, I too will be worthy of the title
"Drooling Fanboy."  

   Douglas Moody
   dgm5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu

      8)    <= self portrait
From: elo9246@sigma.tamu.edu (LaNelle Ohlhausen)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: End Credits
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:26:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Thanks for the use of the Death Star, Sally.  It seems to have worked--
KWKT ran the full end credits (*including* the tag!) last Friday.

We'll see how long it lasts...

LaNelle
From: hancock@inland.com (Tom Hancock)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: My company review of HISMV
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:14:04 GMT
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

Toonsters,

	FYI: I just inserted this review of HISMV into my company's movie review
conference:

*************

	"Tiny Toon Adventures" is an afternoon cartoon show produced by Warner
Bros and Steven Spielberg/Amblin.  "How I Spent My Vacation" is a made-for-video
movie just released.  The Tiny Toon characters are teen-aged characters based on
the classic Warner Bros. Looney-Toon characters -- they are not (repeat NOT)
another "Muppet Babies".  The story involves the characters and their summer
vacations. The animation, although not "Disney feature" quality, is far above
the common TV junk.
	I havn't had as much fun with cartoons in a long time.  Yes, the movie
is mainly geared toward kids, but that does'nt spoil the fun.  Adults might
groan at some of the gross sophmoric humor, but the older kids will love it.  Be
warned: the humor is slapstick/Warners/Tex Avery/dynamite-down-your-pants stuff
and not Disney-cutsey.
	Along they way there are pokes at a famous amusement park (you know
which one), Rosanne Barr, E.T., late-night talk show hosts, Disney movies, and
movie theatre sound system demos.  It has a chainsaw-wielding homocidal maniac,
a squirtgun fight to end all squirtgun fights, a cameo by a famous superhero,
and a "Vacation Car Trip From Hell".
	This is one you rent for the kids so you can watch it.    

*************

	Remember I had to gear this toward a bunch of folks whose only idea of
cartoons is SatAM junk!

							Tom
-- 
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<i> Inland Steel Co. <i>    |
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From: sado@ellis.uchicago.edu (Rob Sadowski)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Gang Busters
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:55:48 GMT
Reply-To: sado@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


I originally listed this one as one of the worst (and it seems that net.opinion
agreed with me for the most part) but after seeing it again today, I have
a somewhat more favorable opinion.  IMHO, I think the writing was really good.

Does anyone else think that this one could have been saved by some better 
animation and a more practiced job by the voice actors on the last act ? 
Or does the majority find rap (in any form) distasteful ?

-- 
===============================================================================
Robert Sadowski				             sadowski@cs.uchicago.edu
The University of Chicago                            sado@midway.uchicago.edu
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From: hancock@inland.com (Tom Hancock)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
Subject: Bunny Burgers explained
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:27:50 GMT
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Apr2.045117.28573@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, wilmoth@buster.cps.msu.edu (Jamie S Wilmoth) writes:
> In article <1992Mar29.191728.9645@wam.umd.edu> vgriscep@wam.umd.edu (VGR (Craig Pell)) writes:
>>In article <1992Mar29.123632.19566@ctr.columbia.edu> wilmoth@buster.cps.msu.edu (Jamie S Wilmoth) writes:
[snip]
> 
> (Oh no!  They just had a story about BUNNY BURGERS on the news!!
> With french fried carrot sticks and a "bunny burger" jingle even!
> I didn't really catch it all, but I believe it was just some joke
> some advertising or fake company did.  Too bad I wasn't recording,
> or I'd have included the lyrics here. :-)
> 
> 
> Jamie Wilmoth
>  -- Michigan State University
> wilmoth@buster.cps.msu.edu    |  'Like, welcome to the end of this post.
>        @cps.msu.edu           |   Enjoy this once humorous .sig that,
>        @pleiades.cps.msu.edu  |   like, died for you, you murderers!'
>
	For what its worth...

	There is an article in the April 1992 "Spy" magazine that they did a
"sting operation" by opening a "Bunny Burgers" fast food store.  Didn't read the
article, but I guess they intended to poke some fun at PR people and the media.
They actually opened a store in a mall and did some "market research".

					Tom
-- 
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Tom Hancock -- Assoc. Engr. |    I speak for myself, and not the company!
<i> Inland Steel Co. <i>    |
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Newsgroups: alt.tv.tiny-toon
From: klein@kira.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Subject: Morey Amsterdam 
Summary:  (sheesh)
Keywords: You're all culturally impaired...
Organization: The Alan Brady Show
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 22:13:13 GMT

What IS it with you people?

Morey Amsterdam played "Buddy" on the Dick Van Dyke show, a co-writer
with Rob (DVD) and Sally (Rose-Marie) for the Alan Brady (Carl Reiner)
Show.

You probably didn't get any of the jokes in "The Hamton Show", didja?
("Elmyra Tyler Moore, Plucky Ducksterdan, Rose-Shirley..")

Incidentally, Rose-Marie played Egon's mother on "The Real Ghostbusters."
-- 
Jeff Klein                  | "One of you is a Charlie Brown mutant,
                            |  and the other has a hand growing out  
klein@kira.egr.msu.edu      |  of his(?) head!" - Blue Bunny