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From: btkuo@remus.rutgers.edu (    Bernie)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Black Balls
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:53:59 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

When using black paint, mix a bunch of yellow or orange ones in there.
They act as tracer ones, so you can track where they are going.
'Course you can't always get them in the order you want, but it works
well enough

Bernie
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From: sew@philabs.philips.com (Scott E. Wakeman)
Subject: re: pmi 3 ...
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, New York
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:34:20 GMT

henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan) writes:

>Question about the PMI-3.
>Knowing that the PMi-3 doesn't perform well in colder climates, what are the
>viable solution to overcome this problem?  A friend of mine is considering
>PMI-3 as his first gun and with fall and winter coming up, he wants to make
>sure it won't let him down.  What are the practical solutions to get a PMI-3
>to function in winter climates?  A siphon tank?  A separate set of winter
>s and bolt?  
>Any responses would be appreciative.

>Ooh, I've heard that you never want to put a siphon tank on a PMI-3.

>>Mitri Van

  I'm running liquid with no problems, actually a 20 oz back bottle setup.
 I had velocity problems when I first got the gun, but switching to
 leaded solved the problem. I also had custom porting afterwards
 to increase the efficiency. Works like a charm.

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From: Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Todd Looney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: A Discussion of Tactics
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:38:24 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/27 - Int'l Public Emerge, San Jose CA

Hello Wolverine!

In a message of <Thursday September 10 1992>, Wolverine (1:143/8) writes:

 W> I would like to open a forum of the tactics of paintball... here is
 W> some observations I have made over my two year career...

 W> When planning team tactics they're one two things you can do.
 W> Total Attack or total Defense.  I have NEVER had a succesful combination
 W> I personally opt for total attack.  If you've ever played the Ironmen
 W> you will agree....

I agree that this tactic works most of the times but you need to have additional tactics ready and available.  An offset on tis for tourney-type playing on a short field is to split the bulk of your attacking force in two, running one small squad up the left flanking tape and the other along the right.  If you leave one or two (depending on the size of your team) to roam the middle trying starting out longballing trying to scatter the other team as much as possible until the first balls are returned, then 

moving forward slowly trying to improve crossfire with the flank squads to  pin the opposition down, in just a minute or two you can have the entire opposing team pinned and flanked.

A variation would be to have one of the flanks leave one shooter after they have their oppisong flank pinned, and slip back and around to join the roamer down the middle to flank the two opposing flanks with more strength.

These have worked for groups I've played with.

 W> Another thing I have noticed:  NEVER RUN.  This just might be me,
 W> but whenever I flee I get taken out.  Its best just to hole up and
 W> return fire anyway you can (that mystery gun sticking up from behind
 W> a stump :)

I couldn't disagree with you more, unless you mean after they have you pinned. Up until that point I find running to be the only way.  I can usually out dance any incoming as most people can because it's really hard to hit a running target.  By running though, I can gain a real good forward position from which to cover my teammates.


Ciao for Niao
Todd Looney
Silicon Valley's APPLE DUMPLING GANG Team!
        Placed 19th out of 66 teams in PA last month, not bad for a first national tourney!


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From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Help : Paintball Guns that conform to Irish Law.
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:54:36 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <6vrnxc=.albertw@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
stuff deleted in the interest of brevity.


>Actually it shouldn't be too hard to get a Nelson based gun to fire without
>the grip.  You end up with a paint "zip" gun. ^_^
>
You're right. It'll be easy to change to remove the M-16 pistol grips on most
Nelson based paintguns and still be useable.  I think the same can be said for
some of the semi-autos.
-- 
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space cow invading St. Canard -Dark Wing Duck

HenryC@Panix.Com
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From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: Paintball Magazine is no more
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:04:51 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC


I got some bad news in the mail today (no, not a ding letter).  November 1992
is the last issue of Paintball Magazine.  CFW Enterprises has decided to
suspend publication of Paintball Magazine because of the lack of advertisers.
The front inside cover has the publisher notice.  They go on to explain that
despite circulation topping 21,000 and readership into 70,000, the lack of a
stronger advertiser base is forcing them to suspend publication.  Those who
have Paintball Magazine subscriptions will be compensated with APG.  If you
already subscribing to APG, then your subscription is extended.

This is sad news indeed because IMO Paintball Magazine was putting out alot
of good info instead of the usual monthly APG fluff on how well Team Navarone
did in some tournament in Pig's Knuckle Boondocks.  For the last four months
in a row Paintball Magazine has been batting 1.000 in my book.  They had multi-
page articles on F-1 illustrators, Tippmann Pro-Am, and Apex Elite.  Guns 
people actually consider buying, not some obscure limited production based
on crosman grips which aren't selling in the stores and need a lift kinda of
deal.  The article on Fraudigy Paintball forum was quite interesting indeed.
Not having Paintball Magazine around leaves Paintcheck and Paintball Consumer
Report International as the only reliable (read truthful) magazines around 
IMHO.  Paintball Planet still reminds me of the National Enquirer, but the
two issue article on Southern California paintball stores was great for an
East Coast person like me.


On a separate note:
Anyone attending Wolf's Lair on the 19th for I.R.S. day?
-- 
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HenryC@Panix.Com
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From: wljohnso@nyx.cs.du.edu (William "Wes" Johnson)
Subject: Re: A Discussion of Tactics
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 07:04:52 GMT


My tactics for a paint pellet game are fairly simple.  Yet I usually end
up killing as many times as I get shot, perhaps a little bit more.  And
among the people I play with I am a little out gunned.

1. Always know where good cover is.  For some reason some of the guys I
play with like hunkering down in huge rock formations.  Bad cover will get
you out flanked and dead, fast.
 
2. Know when to shoot.  If you have the coice make sure your shot will be
good.  Cause if you blow your cover, they can see you...and well that is
bad.
 
3. Be mobile.  I ahve always stuck to being mobile, and predatory.

Note: Its been two years since I have played in a good game so I am a bit
rusty.  So I will appreciate hearing tactics too.  

Going with about 10 people to a cabin by Winter Park (ski resort in
Colorado) for two days worth of fun and violence.  I have always found
playing in the Rocky Mountains to be a blast.  Lots of terrain!

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William "Wes" "Arrrr" "Man Thats a Loud Shirt"
"Gener Fox" "Mr. Kamikazi" "Mr DNA" "Boojie Boy" 
"Golden Earring" "Sentri Bastion" Johnson
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He Tried To Kill Me With A Forklift --MST3K
From: Todd.Looney@f27.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Todd Looney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: winter games
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:34:32 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/27 - Int'l Public Emerge, San Jose CA

Hello Andrew!

 AS> does anyone out there have experience with winter games??

 AS> are there any special problems with the paint, etc in winter conditions?

Ouch!  Wonder if a frozen paintnall volocity 295 would *bounce* off a human target?

Todd

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From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Paintball "gun" for sale
Date: 8 Sep 92 02:45:40 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Maybe......   :-)

I am thinking about selling my PMI-3 (Sheridan VM68) so that I can
buy the gun of my dreams, whatever that turns out to be. This gun
is about 4 months old, has a bottom line, and a Smart Parts barrel.
It is in good conditions, with a few nicks of course. It has an
Indian Springs maxi-loader that I'd include, as well as spare o-rings,
screws, and other parts that come in the parts kit.

If anyone wants this gun, I'd consider $275 for the gun as described
above.

John

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From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: straighter flying paintballs
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:51:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

bmich@cs.utexas.edu (Brian Keith Michalk) writes:

>>
>Hmmmm.  I think I have enough parts to make my own tumbler, but I was wondering
>how long do you think it would be safe to tumble the balls?  I have a motor
>that is geard down to 24 rpms.  Do you think it would be safe to leave them
>in a tumbler that fast overnight?

	I don't know what commercial tumblers run at, speed wise.  At
24 rpm, I think you will complete one turn about every 2.5 seconds.  That
might be reasonable - I would suggest using some kind of thin foam
on the inside of your container as a way of reducing or preventing ball
breakage.  If I had to guess, *anything* reasonable that gets the paint
mixed and evenly distributed within the ball will improve the flight
characteristics.

>Also a friend of mine was telling me of large bore paintballs.  I saw 
>him shoot a few rounds and they seemed to be very accurate.  Have you heard 
>anything about this?

	Well, most paintguns shoot .68 if memory serves with a little
stuff at .62 and less at .50 (Crosman spotmarker????).  What do you
mean by "big bore", as if .68 wasn't enough?

	Maybe a paint howitzer or mortar, perhaps?  Hmmmmm....interesting
idea.  I have seen paint cannons that shoot about 25 paintballs at
once....I think USI makes/distributes one.  Uses up a lot of gas, though.

>One other thing, I just bought a 16 barrel for my gun hoping it would
>improve accuracy, but I haven't seen any real advantage.  I'm thinking 
>about honing the end of it so it has a slight taper to it.  I suppose
>a lot like a muzzle break.  Does anyone know of some fairly easy mods
>that work well?

	I guess you meant 16" barrel.  Depends on what you started with.
My Spartan was ordered with a 14" barrel, and I have been surprised by
just how accurate it is with good paintballs.  Tends to outperform
many of the 14" semis except for the very best of them, although that
could be as much a factor of the user "paint spraying syndrome".....
never realy bench tested it side by side with, say, a Tippman 68
special or something similar.

	I had thought about going to an 18" barrel....but for now, I
can't complain about the 14".  It is reasonably accurate without making
for an unwieldy weapon....and if you get a REAL long barrel, they
are a pain in the ass for anything but sniping.  I think I might
be inclined to get a sound suppressor before a longer barrel.....

Duane
From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Should I buy a Brute weapon?
Keywords: Brute, using, reliability
Date: 6 Sep 92 03:08:29 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <leif.715702546@ifm.liu.se> leif@ifm.liu.se (Leif Hedstrom) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>Just a short question: Does anyone have any experiences using the Brute?
>I'm about to buy some new weapons, and I'm considering the pump action
>version of the Brute. All comments are welcome!
>
The last issue of Paintball News had a full page PR article/plug for the
PMS Brute.  The Brute is a fixed barrel Nelson based pump gun made in Brazil
, I recall.  The gun comes with a return spring feature that aids in keeping
the cocked bolt from opening.  A Nelson compatible gun means you shouldn't
have any difficulty finding replacement parts.
You might also want to consider the PMI Traccer.  The Traccer is in the same
price range as the Brute and backed by a reputable paintball marketing
company (PMI).

BTW, could you refrain from calling paintguns weapons.  There are far too many
people out in the world with a misconceived notion of the sport of paintball.
Having our paintmarker defined as weapons puts us paintballers in the same lot
as murderers, rapists and terrorists.

-- 
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space cow invading St. Canard -Dark Wing Duck

HenryC@Panix.Com
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From: richhg@hsv3.lsil.com (Rich Henderson-Gragg)
Subject: Re: straighter flying paintballs
Organization: Headland Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:17:00 GMT


in an article  (Brian Keith Michalk) writes:

>Anyway, I figured the noise here was getting too quiet, so if anyone is 
>achieving at least %80 reliability, let me know what you did to get it,
>or are all these 50 yard shots a myth?

   Occasional 50 yard (150 ft) shots happen.  In various test
ranges I have seen or played with 50 FT range with 12 inch (1ft) targets
yield 8 of 10 hits on a regular basis with most of the good guns. 
   With few exceptions most people don't present more then 12 inches worth
of target to shoot at (except when their behind is hanging out:).
   The most obvious benifit I have gotten from having a rifled
barrel is to be able to sit 50 ft from a friend of mine who owns the
same gun model that I do but with a different barrel and be able to 
hit him when only his head is showing where I only needed to step
behind cover when he was getting close. (And he did get close :).
   He now wants a rifled barrel (Armiston(sp) for illustrator.).

So it would seem that field tests show some strong recomendations
for the rifled barrel that target range tests don't. 

    -Rich-

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