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From: steve@coho.austin.ibm.com (sTeVeN CaLlAhAn)
Subject: Re: Houston Raves?
Organization: IBM, Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 13:52:47 GMT

Robert Stephens (rob@dexter.psych.umn.edu) asks:
>
>
> Can someone post any upcoming
> Raves for Aug/Sept ?
>

I second that.  Where have any Raves in Houston been, or have there
really been any?

steve

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From: mpisano@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael A Pisano)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: WAVE RAVE TONIGHT?
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:01:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Ohio State University

I'm planning to trek across a few states to go to this Wave Rave that was 
posted a few weeks ago.

Does anyone know anything about it: promoters, venue, etc.?

I don't want to make the trip if it's lame.

Any info would be appreciated.

-mpisano@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ddryan@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Diana Diehl-Dryan)
Subject: Wannabes YESSS!!!
Originator: ddryan@harriett.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:42:18 GMT

Is there anyone out there willing to help out a novice?  I stumbled across this
newsgroup by accident, and I'm really interested.  Unfortunately, I feel like
I'm reading techno-Greek.  At the risk of incurring the wrath of posters who
want to keep this newsgroup sacrosanct for the hardcore technotwits (it's an
affectionate term, really!), I will venture forth with my queries.

I am an oldster who grew up in the love-ins and acid-block parties of the 
60's and 70's. I'm not an old druggie, but I'm tired of the music I get on the
normal waves.  I was moaning about what happened to the counterculture music
that used to move the People, and BANG, I find myself here.  The question is,
how do I learn what all the categories of music are here?  I do not have much
of a music budget, so I don't want to waste my $$$.

Can anyone list their top three music categories and the top 3 or a dozen
artists or groups in each one?  If it's okay to post this kind of questionnaire
here, (I'm new to the net, too...) this might give me a handle on the 
conversation here and give me a listening start.

If you're already fuming about wannabe posts, just think of me as a 
wanna-find-out-if-I-wannabe.  Have a little patience, some day you may be out
of touch, but still nervy enough to want to learn something new.  Thanks all
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From: fvaughn@ds5000.coe.northeastern.edu (Frederick Vaughn)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Ride Wanted!!!
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:36:01 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University

I am looking for a ride to the rave this Saturday (8/22) in Newburgh, N.Y.
from Boston (actually Somerville). I can't seem to hook up with this Mello
man who is hooking up a bus ride. Thank you for your time.

FRED
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From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Free rave in Bay Area???
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:49:25 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <16noboINNjhc@agate.berkeley.edu> bbehlen@soda.Berkeley.EDU (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:
>
>Well, if you were on sfraves you'd know all about it....
>

now now brian... be nice :)



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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: thecure@ee.mu.OZ.AU (the cure)
Subject: ANNOUNCEMENT : Street rave II (melbourne)
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 23:32:31 GMT

RIGHT ON ONE PRODUCTIONS BRING YOU THE LONG AWAITED

              S T R E E T  R A V E I I ! ! ! ! ! !  

d.j's on theday include

Mark Hogan, Richie Rich, Will E Tell , Charm, Karl, And more to be confirmed

TO TAKE PLACE AT BRUNSWICK STREET FESTIVAL 11.00AM - 5.30PM

TO BE MOVED TO A SECRET LOCATION ON THE DAY FROM 5.30 PM ONWArds  (BAH!)

AUGUST 29TH 1992

CORNER OF CECIL & BRUNSWICK ST. FITZROY

IT'S GONNA BE MASSIVE & IT'S FREE!!!!!

SEE YA THERE!!!!



(I have the feeling this is more to let the public know about what a rave is
and then hope some of them will come to the one afterwards.)




                            Always question authority.
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: Going to a Rave questions. Rave virgin at large.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:37:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.142510.5790@cs.tcd.ie> ftsomers@cs.tcd.ie (fergal somers) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.190525.22706@adp.uucp> travisj@adp.uucp (Travis) writes:

>Can you say "who cares?". No-one. Raves aren't about fashion, they're
>about music and partying. Ravers will be too busy dancing and partying
>to worry about such.

while i agree that it doesnt matter,
i wouldnt say that raves are about dancing or fashion
hey, cool clothes are cool, i dont wear clothes that i think
are really cool because they arent me, its not what i do
but i think it is really cool when someone gets dressed up
in some funky outfit

but raves really arent about dancing either,
its about life, love, a philosophy of living
thats what its all about
the attitude, the, the ... well..
i dont think there is really a good english word for it
i'll have to do some reading in greek because its probably there

dont think that this is all about music, or dancing or drugs or 
clothes or being in a certain group or anything so materialistic as these

its the same thing as people have been about since the beginning of time
its about people, how they react adn relate and love and learn and grow
and evolve and breathe as one entity



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Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
From: davisonj@bnr.ca (John Davison)
Subject: miscellaneous Arthur Brown info
Summary: God of Hell Fire lives in Austin, Texas
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:25:30 GMT

        I just talked to someone today who informed me that Arthur Brown -- a
1960s British counterculture icon who is getting some attention nowadays due to
a "I am the God of Hell Fire" sound bite that is being used in at least two
currently popular disco songs -- now lives in Austin, Texas, and that he is
writing some kind of cross-disciplinary book or paper on music and psychology.
Don't know nuthin' more about that.

        I also saw that _The_Crazy_World_of_Arthur_Brown_ (I think this was
both the title and the official artist name), an album recorded in 1968,
produced by Pete Townsend, was released on CD with a 1991 copyright.  Reviews
of this album and any other Arthur Brown information are eagerly solicited.

        One of the disco songs that makes use of the aforementioned sound bite
is by a Dallas techno ensemble called Proxima, for what it's worth.


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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Subject: Re: Orb: Patterns & Textures video
Reply-To: jondr@sco.com
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:13:23 GMT


I am not pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown).  I didn't say:
>I'll probably post a more extensive review later, but I just had to babble now
>about how great this video is.

Yes, I got the video as well, with the live CD included.  I'm not as
impressed as Pete, but I still think it's a fine item, and well worth
owning.  The music isn't radically different enough for my tastes, at least
not enough to justify including a whole CD with the soundtrack, but there is
a lot more Steve Hillage guitar stuff in various places, and that can't be a
bad thing.

Anyway, it's a bit pricy ($48) but probably worth it.  And if you're a
diehard Orb fanatic like myself, you have to own it anyway.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pegasus.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
Subject: tHE LAST MESSAGE
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:51:37 GMT

IM SORRY I PUT THAT MESSAGE IN THE WRONG Area!
if the Sysop Could Move it !
Sorry
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines)
Subject: Re: Q: The Orb = Orbital?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:21:44 GMT

nope. orbital is only the brothers paul and phil hartnoll. started in 1989. the
other people listed are included cause they had some other people singing on 
that particular mix of belfast.

sines
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From: csw72@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Dom)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: miscellaneous Arthur Brown info
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:44:26 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

In article <1992Aug13.062530.5971@bnr.ca>, davisonj@bnr.ca (John Davison) writes:
> 
>         I just talked to someone today who informed me that Arthur Brown -- a
> 1960s British counterculture icon who is getting some attention nowadays due to
> a "I am the God of Hell Fire" sound bite that is being used in at least two
> currently popular disco songs -- now lives in Austin, Texas, and that he is
> writing some kind of cross-disciplinary book or paper on music and psychology.
> Don't know nuthin' more about that.

And guess who's using the sample now...

The Prodigy have a new EP out in a few weeks - one of the tracks called
predictably enough "Fire" makes a 'Hell' (sorry!) of a lot of use out of
the "I am the God..." sample.

It does sound quite good, a strange mixture of techno/ragga/piano... the other
tracks are better though.

Laters,
Dom.
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From: robert9@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Robert Pound)
Subject: WANTED: Techno-rave mail-order music store
Summary: Can't get what I want where I am 
Keywords:  H E L P ! ! ! ! 
Organization: CS Dept, Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:40:10 GMT


The subject line says it all. Please respond by email. There is nowhere
around I live to get any good music. 

Bob

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: techno ballad Re: various interesting questions
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:23:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.144536.21681@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
laural@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (laura.l.la gassa) writes:
 
>
>I'm terribly sorry I didn't get the attribution for this, but I swept the
 
arthur@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
 
>>   1) Does techno music preclude the idea of ballads? Does the synthetic
>>nature of the music mean that we'll never have anything like (say)
>>Coltrane's "Naima"?
 
>It all depends on how one defines techno.  If you define it as "ear bleeding
>stuff that runs at about 135 bpm or so" then the answer is no.  But that is an
>extremely narrow definition of techno.  In fact, I'd say that that's the
>defintion of hardcore techno.  So much tribal/trancy/ambient music falls
>outside of that definition, yet we still call it techno because, as near as I
>can tell, it was created electronically/digitally in the early 1990's.  Vocals
>don't figure much in techno right now, but that doesn't mean that they can't.
>Imagine taking some pretty wistful ambient tune and adding suitable vocals.  Oh
>my god I've just described This Mortal Coil.  Except that was done back in the
>early/mid 80's.  Jam & Spoon's "Stella" is sort of a step toward ballad-y
>techno.  Instead of repeating "love me / hold me" over and over "real" lyrics
>could be used, and voila', we have a techno ballad.  I unfortunately know
>nothing about Jazz, so I can't answer the question about Coltrane's "Naima."
 
and it depends on how you define ballad. If it's
1.) a simple song :AIR {melody}
such a broad definition--then a lot of techno could be considered ballads.
or
2.) a narrative poem of strongly marked rhythm suitable for singing
then I'd say that's a bit more of a stretch. I think that's closer to rap.;-)
or
3.) a slow romantic dance song
Well, that's quite contrary to the current manifestation of techno music.
 
Go back in time to '81 and the beginning of Detroit Techno; the album
Cybotron's _Enter_ (available on CD as _Clear_ from Fantasy Records)
the title tune of which which certainly has a balladesque feel to it.
In fact it sounds alot like balladeers Roxy Music, much of whose material
could potentially be "technified".
I'd love to hear a remix of _Thrill of it All_.
 
One thing that most traditional ballads rely on is an ABAB verse, chours,
verse, chorus predictable format. That's the kind of thing that I'd hope
contemporary techno will get further and further away from.
 
So, Arthur, why do you like Coltrane?
 
--Eric
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: prastowo@cae.wisc.edu (Anton Prastowo)
Subject: Alice In Raveeland - Madison, WI
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:36:50 CDT
Keywords: rave man rave

        A L I C E   I N   R A V E E L A N D

 a masquerave with 20,000 bales of dance space!

     Friday, August 28th, 1992 - Madison, WI

                 10 pm -> E = 0
               (E is energy level)

          FEATURING DJs   INFOLINES
    Nick Nice (Madison)   Madison   608.283.3340
  Miles Maeda (Chicago)   Milwaukee 414.283.1944
Roz B. Liquid (Chicago)   Chicago   312.845.1165
           JJ (Dallas)    MPLS      612.827.0710

see ya!

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: What's that Orb?
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 21:07:58 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

ftsomers@cs.tcd.ie (fergal somers) writes:

>>> The Orb - Little Fluffy Clouds (rave mix) 
>>
>> what/where/who/huh?  Is this a dj mix or something? 
>
> It appears on a compilation album to raise money for CND. The
> compilation is called (I think) CND: Give peace a dance and contains
> loads of the commercial stuff (of about 6-12 months ago). I'm not sure
> whether the mix is actually called "rave mix", but compared to any other
> version, considerably faster (fast enough to rave to), more dance
> backbeat etc. 

You be dreamin'!  The mix of "Little Fluffy Clouds" on _Give Peace A Dance_
is almost identical to the regular dance remix (dance mk ii) and that's only
much different from the album version 'cos it's longer.  There are a couple
of serious reworkings on the US CD5.

--
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: Re: Q: The Orb = Orbital?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:41:07 GMT

mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum) writes:

> true, but then again, orbital was the first group to chart a techno hit
>in the uk, when "chime" hit #17 back in 1990.
>(of course chime doesn't sound a damn thing like the "techno" nowadays)

I thoughr LFO or Hardcore Uproar were first... Where did you see that
bit of info? This isn't a flame, I'm just interested in the info.
Paul
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From: dom@nyx.cs.du.edu (david om)
Subject: Re: which is right?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Please dont go..
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 01:50:38 GMT

In article <Bt4zDG.598@news.cso.uiuc.edu> lcm36651@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hi!  ;) ) writes:
>	The song "Please Don't Go" which I've heard on the radio
>	is different than the one that I originally heard on some
>	import compilation or other ( ? cant remember the name)
>	Though it is not the greatest I think that it is worth a
>	listen.  The name was changed from Double You to KWS, who
>	knows why.. Also the vocals either seem to be different or
>	the song was re-recorded ( i dont know the rec ind terminology
>	to when a song with the same music and evereithing else has
>	the vocals substituted ) "everything"     ^^^^^^^^
>	Does anybody know why?

Erm... I seem to remember something about Double You being the first to record
the song (a cover anyway) then being beaten to the chart success by K.W.S. who
recorded a remarkably similar version. As far as I know KWS and Double You have
no connections - and Double You were extremely annoyed (to put it lightly).

BTW - I am no KWS expert and hope I never will be !

Laters,
Dom
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From: wyller@gagme.chi.il.us (wyller)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "Here comes the sun..."
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:12:58 GMT
Organization: vertical
Originator: wyller@gagme

In article <3763@keele.keele.ac.uk> csw72@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Dom) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.062624.29449@wam.umd.edu>, yep@wam.umd.edu (--!!HEY!!--) writes:
>> >Heard techno version of "Here comes the sun" at Catostrophic rave last
>> >weekend in DC...
>> >
>> They played that song at the Flintstone Rave as well...
>> does anyone know who the artist is?
>> 
>
>I think you must be talking about "Close Your Eyes" by ACEN which has a
>sample from Here Comes The Sun.
>
>Does anyone know if this can be found on CD, apparently it loses the
>sample on certain compilations ?
>

'Close Your Eyes' by ACEN can be found on CD with the 'Here comes the sun'
sample.  Master Beat Remix service has it on their CD volume 3.

Their phone is +1 916 331 0122

-Wile E. Coyote, Sooper Genius (or me feeling silly)
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Upcoming raves
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:24:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <2038@deadmin.ucsd.edu> zirk@celece.ucsd.edu (Karin Zirk) writes:
>
>UPCOMING IN SAN DIEGO:
>
>
>Friday, August 21st, 1992
>
>     Global Underworld Network of
>            Opium & Narnia
>                present
>               THE SEED 
>	       
>
>Produced by J.P. & Jose of Big Top;
>	    The Final Testament; and
>	    Chili & Flick of Colossus
>
>with Mark E. Quark, Ecstatic, Nicholas and Josh
>
>Fully permited location 7 minutes from Pacific Beach in San Diego
>          $12 advance tix; $15 day of 
>
>FOR INFO:   (619)685-7465
>            (714)254-7573
>	    (213)486-4573
>

GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO GO 

look i cant make it to this because some random
guy is going to crack my jaw open and rip out my wisdom teeth
but as im sitting there with the nitrous flowing in
(yeah.. im gonna drag that out as long as possible)
this is the rave i am going to be thinking of

im not sure if i know nicholas, but Mark E Quark and DJ Ecstatic
are my fav. DJ's in the whole world right now
and Josh is Josh from San Francisco, so they
know how good he is

these guys are really really really really on the ball with the rave scene
they throw free raves every week and the only reason they collect money
here is because they need to make a living somehow

i dont know of anyone is more into the scene just because they 
love people and love music and dancing and everything

really, it will be totally worth it to drive down from LA
to go to this rave...

REALLY

i could type for pages and pages about how great these guys are
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