HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith)
Subject: Re: Number of jumps
Reply-To: mark@vti.com
Organization: Virtual Technologies, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:18:08 GMT

Eric Perozziello (eap@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
: >Anyway, no reserve rides after 50 CRW jumps?  Now THAT is saying something!
: 
: Yeah, maybe it's saying you haven't docked yet!   :^)
: 
: Jus' kiddin' mark!

That was neither Mark Smith (mark=me), nor Mark Horn (sparkie) who
said that; I think that was Pasi Nironen.

Cute note though :-)
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From: shibuya@mailhost.bl.cad.slb.com (Hiroto Shibuya)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: DZ altitude
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:24:58 GMT
Reply-To: shibuya@mailhost.bl.cad.slb.com
Distribution: rec
Organization: Applicon; Billerica, MA (USA)

I'm planning to go to Skydive Arizona at the beginning of November.  I
just learned today that Eloy is like 2,500 ASL.  I also heared my
Sabre 135 will perform like 120 at that altitude.  I'm not worried
about that, but I'm trying to decide on the size of my next canopy and
I don't wan't to get something which I can use only at sea level.  I
put about 1.2 wing load on Sabre 135, and it would be 1.33 on 120.  I
think I can live with that with my experience of 600 jumps on 135 size
canopy.  I'm trying to decide if I can push that to 107, which will
make the wing load up to 1.5.

I like to hear of some experience of putting 1.5+ load and visiting DZ
of 2,3 grand altitude difference.  How drastic the change?  How much
do you have to adjust your flare, or hookturn?

Also, are there any other major famous DZ any higher than Eloy?

	Hiroto
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: watterson@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: High altitude bungee jumpy
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 02:50:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.121203.1@acad3.alaska.edu>, fsbgf@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
> With all this talk about skydiving and bungee jumping I started thinking...
> has anyone ever exited an airplane like a Casa or Caribou connected to the
> plane with a long rope/bungee and been towed behind the airplane then cut
> away from the cord to freefall?? It sounds like it could be fun if done
> right.
> 				Brandon

I've seen it done on one of those "Amazing daredevil/stunt/trick" shows 
from a ballon.  

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From: esj@viper.eng.ufl.edu (Eric S. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Parachutist
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 15:31:16 GMT

Another strange thing reading this months parachutist, regarding
our favorite lurker. 

The article about the WFF conv. mentioned the turbine aircraft:

1. 2 FF express Otters
2. Skydive Az's super otter
3. Another otter, whos home base and owner got mentioned.
4. and a "Fast climbing King Air", no mention of the owner or home base.

Great unbaised journalism..... NOT.

Ej
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Our daily philosophy question
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:47:19 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Sep29.134708.2837@alw.nih.gov> drury@helix.nih.gov (Richard Drury) writes:
>In article <f9ZS02GF23lb01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> drp40@cd.amdahl.com writes:
>>
>>Who goes through your pockets for beer money when you go in?
>
>My ex-wife would.  Gleefully.

I knew of a guy who put a check for 12 dollars in the packing card pocket of
his reserve.



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Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude)
Subject: Re: New Gear
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 02:50:09 GMT

In article <d07302n923EW01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> drf40@cd.amdahl.com writes:
>
>	Okay, now that I just graduated, I am looking into buying some gear,
>and was wondering if anyone had any recommendations.  What kind of
>altimeter: digital or analog, and what brands and models? 

I've seen two digital units, one guy is really happy with his, even though
it doesn't read accurately up here at 5,018'. I can't figure why he's happy
with an incorrect altimeter, ... he says it's super easy to read. Lately,
it seems I'm breaking early, and while I find it hard to believe that I'm 
misreading my altimeter, I started to wonder if maybe I should check out 
a properly calibrated digital model. As far as analog models go, the
Altimasters seem to be the way to go. The non-Altimaster units seem cheapish
to me, and inaccurate, or the needle jumps, but I really don't have any 
experience with them. There are the mega-expensive ones too, but I've never
seen one. I'd recommend one with a warranty.

>What kinds of goggles? 

Check out Troy's Sky Eyes, the Tube Stow goggles. People really seem to
like them alot. There will be an over the glasses model in Oct. or Nov.

>Hard helmet or soft? 

Purely preference. You can look funny, or you can look really funny.
Hard. ;-)

>Ditter or No Ditter? 

If you can afford one, why not. I've been surprised more than once at 
how low we were.

>Anything new and exciting?

The Flexon Harness/Container looks pretty cool. But I bet noone's wearing 
one yet. And I didn't like the color samples. :-/ And they cost a lot.
Javelin is the container I like the most. PureOpinion.

>	-df
[house-mate picks up other phone :-( oops]
(Did you say Big Blue Skies? You know Montana has a *really* Big Sky!)

Tim

Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: dappel@grafted.UUCP (Dave Appel)
Subject: Re: You're dead -- unless you pull (was Re: Tiny Broadwick
Organization: GRAFTED, Central Indiana's Usenet BBS 317-881-4369
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 16:01:04 CST

yzarn@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Philip Yzarn de Louraille) writes:
> Just for kicks and concerning malfunction rates of main parachutes, why
> don't we all write the number of jumps we have and the number of main
> malfunctions we got so far.
 
           Squares
        #jumps    #mal
Dave A.   289       0

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Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: henchel@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Eric Hench)
Subject: Re: You're dead -- unless you pull (was Re: Tiny Broadwick
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:44:07 GMT

In article <7120@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com> yzarn@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Philip Yzarn de Louraille) writes:
>
>		rounds					squares
>	#jumps		#mal			#jumps		#mal
>
>Philip	50		1			1200		8

 henchel 0		0			42		0

Okay, so I'm still a pup with only 42 jumps, but I haven't had a reserve
ride yet.

					henchel@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
					Eric Hench

Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: Charolyn_Babichuk@darwin.biochem.ualberta.ca
Subject: Re: Public Apology
Organization: University of Alberta
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:04:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep21.164053.27758@cs.wisc.edu> sparkie@yar.cs.wisc.edu (Mark
Horn) writes:

>Blue Skies!
>- sparkie
>P.S.    Anyone who reads this - please note the date of the post: 21 Sept 1992
>        The very next day after the September $99 Boogie-Till-Ya-Puke

Well, did ya puke or what? :-)

:-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-
):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):
-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
:-):-):-):-):-)Death to
Doug-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-
):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):
-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
:-):-):-):-):-):-):-

Just kidding,
Blue Skies All,
Charolyn
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu ()
Subject: Re: EXPERIENCE
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 00:55:38 GMT

In article <dd1702Em24cB01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> drf40@cd.amdahl.com writes:
>
>	Sorry about my post, guess I did get a little carried away by
>expressing how skydiving felt to me. Shoulda posted it to some
>rec.skydiving.emotional.smiley or something.  I can assure you that I
>will never share my feelings with you guys again. It isn't healthy.

Send it to me and Skratch.

>	-df
>Daryl Fortney						drf40@cd.amdahl.com

Tim
From: dsouth@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Dale Southard Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Malfunction Rate Poll (was: RE: number of jumps)
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:02:28 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <7164@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com>, yzarn@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Philip Yzarn de Louraille) writes:
> In article <15864@mindlink.bc.ca> Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Gibbs) writes:
>>In article <BvE7ty.I6I@virtech.uucp> mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith)
>>writes:
>>
>>>                rounds              squares             aad
>>>            #jumps   #mal      #jumps    #mal      saves    #mal
>>>Mark          10       0          450      1         0       2
>>>Pete           0       0         1300      0
>>>Philip        50       1         1200      8
>>>Pierre        45       0         1200      0
>>>Vilhuber       0       0          115      0
>> Gerhard        0       0           82      0
>> H. Wain       36       0         1200      1
>> Hector         0       0          260      0
>> Jan            0       0          115      0
>> Tim            0       0          175      0
>> Charlie     1500       3          750      3

   Dale           0       0         1200      3


But hey, I'll cut away from anything (Only 1 of the 3 was a high speed
mally. The other 2 were a broken steering line and a knotted stabilizer).


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From: jno3190@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (John N. Otakie)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: You're dead -- unless you pull (was Re: Tiny Broadwick
Summary: number of jumps/malfunctions
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:12:19 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

Philip Yzarn de Louraille writes:
> 
> Just for kicks...
> 
> 		rounds					squares
> 	#jumps		#mal			#jumps		#mal
> 
> Philip	50		1			1200		8
> -- 

  John O.        8              0                       1590            0 (knocking on wood)
From: Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Setting DYTERS
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:10:17 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

In article <BvGwK0.4IL@virtech.uucp> mark@virtech.uucp (Mark Smith)
writes:

>Hmmmm... this made me think of something on a slightly different
>vein.  I have this built-in brain-clock that makes me look at my
>altimeter at approximately the right time.

Me too.

>During the winter months I get really used to jumping between 6-8k,
>but it was also during that period I went down to The Keys and made
>some fantastic dives from 15k.  The interesting thing was that my
>built-in brain-clock ticked off at around 8k or so.  Hell, only a
>little more than half the dive was over and my pull instinct was
>kicking in.

     What I watch out for is the opposite situation.  If we're
planning to go to 8000 and hit the ceiling at, say, 6000, it's
easy to not get that brain-clock reset.  This can lead to some
nasty surprises.  :-)

Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca
"I'm cursed with hair from HELL!"  -- Night Court
From: zor@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (John Rumple)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: Re: You're dead -- unless you pull (was Re: Tiny Broadwick
Date: 3 Oct 92 20:31:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.BvKBoI.92w
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

>                 squares
>          #jumps          #mal
>
>Andy M       38            0
 Jack R        8            2
>
>
>------------------------------
>Andy Mirkis
>Bell Communications Research
>Piscataway, New Jers--
>------------------------------
And I'm still jumping.  It's the best.


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From: drf40@cd.amdahl.com (Daryl Fortney)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: EXPERIENCE
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:21:58 GMT
Reply-To: drf40@cd.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale, CA


		EXPERIENCE - 10/2/92

	Splash of the wind, against the face.
		Looking up to security, down toward the ground.
			Suspended in animation, a surge of adrenaline.
				Gutted sensations, devoid of reason.
		
				Fascination for flight.
			Sensory overload.
		Shock to the system.
	Skydiving.	
-- 
Daryl Fortney						drf40@cd.amdahl.com
From: bleck@aztec.ai.mit.edu (Olaf Bleck)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Re: need bungi Chord
Keywords: bungii, fun
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:51:55 GMT
Reply-To: bleck@ai.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory

In article <1992Sep25.205540.18841@ncsu.edu>, elada@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC  LADA) writes:
|> 
|> 	Hi, I'm asking this here because it seemed like a good place, and
|> I didn't know where else to ask(sorry):

I think there's a rec.bungee or alt.bungee group or something.

|> 	Does anyone know where I can get a lot of Bungii chord to make my own 
|> Bungii jump.  Also does anyone know any ideas for safety precautions I should 
|> follow when Bungi-jumping.   And finnally does anyone know a place around North
|> Carolina or the surrounding states that does Bungii jumping and that I could 
|> hopefully call?

Well, you'd be crazy using harware store variety bungee chord--it's not
nearly as good as the stuff they use commercially, which I understand is
"special bungee jumping chord", manufactured to a much higher spec and much
costlier.  The stuff I've seen is about an inch in diameter, and they use
about four of them in parallel.  It supposedly lasts for 500-1000 jumps
before it gets trashed (about like a main I guess).  Cost is in the $1000's
easily (as much as a rig).

I once ran into some guy who used to go to MIT who's in the business of
making it.


Sensationalism,
-Olaf
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
From: jvilhube@diana.cair.du.edu (Jan Vilhuber)
Subject: Re: Our daily philosophy question
Keywords: beer
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 03:18:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.215948.13060@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> horn@tegan.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Horn) writes:
>Personnally, I don't drink.  So, I don't drink anyone else's beer.  I don't 
>like the idea of supporting someone else's drinking.  If I buy anything, it's
>usually root beer.  Besides, this sport is expensive enough, why do we have to
>add more costs?  Just say, "No!"  ;-)

Actually, there's a simple trick, how to not buy beer:
You just ignore everyone that says you owe a case. I hate to admit it,
but I still owe beer from my graduation, and have not bought any beer
since then. Personally, I don't like the idea either. Why should I pay
beer for everybody else to get drunk? I don't drink that much and hardly
ever when I'm at the DZ (i gotta drive home, remember? Call me boring...).

So... I don't. I just ignore people who say I owe.

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From: ccjoan@parapente.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Volunteers to help USPA with new telecommunications systems
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:47:20 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I just spoke with Jerry Rouillard, the new Executive Director-Designate
for USPA.  He is in the process of evaluating the telecommunications
infrastructure for headquarters.  He needs someone to look at the
telephone cabling system to determine if there is enough capacity to
handle future telephone service and hopefully data communications as well.
He can hire a local consultant to do this but I thought there may be
expertise within the organization and someone would be willing to donate
their services, just as I am for other areas.

I also told Jerry about Usenet news and this conference.  This message is
one way I am demonstrating the usefulness of conferencing to USPA.

If you can help USPA with this project, please call:

Jerry Rouillard
USPA Executive Directory Designate
(703)836-3495

Thanks,
Joan Gargano
From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.fidonet.org (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Hey!
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:14:00 GMT

Reply-to: Anthony.Maglietta@p0.f2.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Anthony Maglietta)
Fido-To: hans falkeman

-> You ar not crazy! Sky Diving is fun...
  I know.  Its everyone ELSE that is crazy!
-Anthony

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From: bob@pta.pyramid.com.au (Robert Vernon)
Subject: Re: Spotting and Ground Speed
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Sydney
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:32:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.002602.10036@gateway.ssf-sys.DHL.COM> bdaniels@ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Ben Daniels) writes:
>Maybe this seems complicated because people have been framing it in
>terms of rates and times.
>
>If I look out the door when the group in front of me gets out and
>see what their exit point was
>
>And if I want to open 1000 ft upwind of them
>
>Then I have to wait until my exit point is 1000 ft upwind of theirs.

Now THATS a simple explanation.  Forget ground speed and air speed and
drift and everything.  Much simpler than all my ascii graphics and the
like.  But I'd like to modify it slightly, just in case you need to do
a down or cross-wind spot.

If I want to open 1000 ft away from them
Then I have to wait until my exit point is 1000 ft away from theirs.


Bob V!
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving,rec.aviation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:40:04 -0400 
From: "Danny A. Rossi" <dr25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: compressed air-horn

I recently experienced another unforseeable problem while jumping.  
The best solution to most of my problems would be to get a reliable 
two-way radio system, but until I get some money that isn't possible.

Asone of a number of consessions I made to get back in the air I 
promised my DZ owner that I would look into getting a compressed 
air-horn and jumping with it strapped to my leg or something.  I 
could then use the horn to get the attention of the folks on the
ground in the event they miss my opening.  My concern is, just how well
is one of these horns going to stand up to being depressurized 
to 13,500FT and back to sea-level multiple times.  

If anybody has any information on how safe it would be to cycle one of these 
cans through this pressure range I would apreciate it if you could 
send it along to me here at dr25@andrew.cmu.edu

Thanks

Dan Rossi
From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.fidonet.org (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: Tevas
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:16:52 GMT

Reply-to: Paul.Stansberry@p0.f22.n233.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Stansberry)
Fido-To: romulus!cd.amdahl.com!drf40

Tuesday September 29 1992, romulus!cd.amdahl.com!drf40 writes to Skydive:

 rac>         Is it just me, or do your feet smell like hell too, after jumping
 rac> in Tevas all day?  God they stink!  I was kicked out of manifest for
 rac> my smelliness last weekend.  Any suggestions on relieving foot odor? -df

Wear shoes.  :-)

Actually, there are lots of foot sprays that should do the trick nicely.
However, if you have foot odor, even while wearing sandles, I would say
you have a more serious problem.  Could be a fungus.


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From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.fidonet.org (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: CYPRES altitude readings
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:18:02 GMT

Reply-to: Paul.Stansberry@p0.f22.n233.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Stansberry)
Fido-To: romulus!pta.pyramid.com.au!b

Wednesday September 30 1992, romulus!pta.pyramid.com.au!bob writes to Skydive:

 rpca> If you really want to see the effects of the burble, get one real
 rpca> stable Stage I student, and two jumpmasters.  The JMs should both stay
 rpca> in close after the student pull.  Then watch the JMs both go apeshit as
 rpca> they see the pilot chute bounce around with the bridle trying to tie
 rpca> knots in everything.

I don't even need to do that.  I weigh about 195, and without a jumpsuit, I
fall extremely fast.  I bought a used (big flappy) jump suit, and now each and
every time I pull the rip cord, If I do not turn on my side, the chute will
NOT deploy.  The first time this happened, I was shocked at first, then it
happened again, and again.  From now on, I will be pulling, and in the same
motion, I will turn on my side a little, and WATCH the chute deploy.


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From: SKYDIVE@f15.n233.z1.fidonet.org (SKYDIVE)
Newsgroups: rec.skydiving
Subject: You're dead -- unless you pull (was Re: Tiny Broadwick
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:02:52 GMT

Reply-to: Paul.Stansberry@p0.f22.n233.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Stansberry)
Fido-To: romulus!lhdsy1.lahabra.chevr

Well, what the heck, I may be new, but I might as well join in here.  :-)

 rlcc>                 rounds                                  squares
 rlcc>         #jumps          #mal                    #jumps          #mal

 rlcc> Philip  50              1                       1200            8

       Paul    0               0                         17            0
 (wife)Barbara 0               0                         16            0


Hopefully, that #mal number will always stay 0.  :-)

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From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude)
Subject: Re: Public Apology
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 23:31:25 GMT

I just got to wondering how much of the Charlie discussion made
it to Mike's hands :-)

But it was just an amusing curiosity.

Tim,
Who had a pretty OK weekend.
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