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Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 08:05:07 -0800
From: Zero_One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: ZyXEL modems wanted
Comment-To: LEE_MUH_HWA@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: Zero_One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
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 > Anyone know if ZyXEL offers Sysop discount for the U1496E & E+. I
 > am
 > in urgent need for a modem for my bbs.

 > Is Zero/One networking reachable via internet? Thanks.

Our BBS number is 714-693-0762.  You can d/l SYSOPS.TXT or capture
Bulletin #4 for the information on our sysop special.

Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: cole@concert.net (Derrick Cole KC4WEJ)
Subject: Re: USRobotics dual 14.4 upgradable to v.fast?
Organization: MCNC Data Operations
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:58:56 GMT

In article <BvAzw8.IvJ@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis) writes:
>
>>V.fast is released they will want another $299.  For $100 to $150 more
>
>Is v.fast only a firmware upgrade or is more involved?
>
>-- 
>Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
>keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry

Could someone please give a summary of just what exactly v.fast entails?  I've
yet to see/hear any description of the actual protocol.

Thanks,
Derrick

-- 
The great thing about being from New York City is no matter where else you go,
it's better.
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Derrick Cole                                  MCNC Center for Communications
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 16800bps?
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:03:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bvvv1s.H1p
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1992Oct10.003315.14948@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> hughesk@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Kirby W. Hughes) writes:
|In article <1992Oct9.231447.11390@u.washington.edu> chiting@hardy.u.washington.edu (Stanley Chi-Ting Lam) writes:
|>In article <1992Oct9.203826.12023@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> hughesk@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Kirby W. Hughes) writes:
|>>Also, are you sure that your 1496E has 16.8 capability?  I just ordered mine,
|>>and they said that 16.8 (and voice) is $50 extra!!!!
|
|Maybe I'm the confused one.  I ordered the 1496B

Aha -- here is the confusion.  You said 1496E in your original message.  The
1496B requires a $50 hardware modification before it can accpet 1MBit ROMS.
The ROMS with all the neat stuff (Voice, 16.8kbps) are 1MBit, the boring old
v.32bis ones (:-) are 512KBit.

|Does the 1496E automatically come with all that?  Maybe I should go external!

Yes, any 1496E's that ZyXEL ships nowadays will come with the 1MBit ROMS,
and the Voice and 16.8kbps features.

  Bill
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: mmccolli@comanche.ess.harris.com (Mike McCollister)
Subject: Gateway Telepath Question
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:59:03 GMT
Reply-To: mmccolli@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division

Does anyone know if the Gate Telepath has a 16550 UART (or compatible)?

Thanks,

Mike McCollister
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Subject: Re: Telebit WorldBlazer & UUCP
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:29:08 GMT

In article <3488.2172.uupcb@synapse.org> daniel.coulombe@synapse.org (Daniel Coulombe)  writes:
>
>I am using a Telebit WorldBlazer to transfer Internet mail (UUCP
>connections). The host modem is also a WorldBlazer, set to first
>negociate for v.32bis.
>
>When I connect with v.32bis, I get just about 1100cps.  When I tried to
>force a TurboPEP connection, I got just about 350cps!...  According to
>the manual, I should get a throughput of 23,000 baud, or about
>2000-2300cps, from which I am VERY far...
>

Sounds like you didn't get UUCP spoofing in the PEP connection.  That would
probably help in your V.32bis/MNP connection also.

Take a look at the instructions for the S111 register and the S59 register
(including Appendix C).  Then you'll be able to find out whether you're
turning on the modem's UUCP support feature or not...

And a call to Telebit tech support wouldn't hurt, either.  1-800-TELEBIT
or 408-734-5200.


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 |  Greg Andrews   |       UUCP: {amdahl,claris}!netcom!gerg        |
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: radel@bach.udel.edu (Todd Radel)
Subject: Re: How do I find out my Supra ROM level?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:37:24 GMT

In article <FRANL.92Oct15114038@draco.centerline.com> franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio) writes:
>I recently bought a Supra FAX Modem v.32bis.  How can I find out what
>revision of the ROM chips it has?

As per the Supra manual:  Type ATI3.  This will return a short
string, in which you should see "V1.200-C", "V1.200-H", or
"V1.200-J".

RTFM for more information.

-- 
Todd Radel                   | "Hello.  My name is Inigo Montoya.  You killed
Honors CISC undergrad        | my father.  Prepare to die."
University of Delaware       | "STOP SAYING THAT!" -- _The_Princess_Bride_
Call the Politically Incorrect BBS! (302) 837-8088 V.32bis/24hrs Fido 1:150/380
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews)
Subject: Re: Telebit WorldBlazer + Zyxel modems = no connect!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:32:54 GMT

In article <2.5000.30.2ad9bdda@che.nsk.su> Maxim.Nikitin@p0.f30.n5000.z2.fidonet.org writes:
>                                  Hi, guys!
>
>        Maybe anyone can help me in the question why when my modem calls
>Zyxel and replies to it V32B noise, the Zyxel drops the line (if fax option
>disabled) or make noise for fax (if the fax option is enabled)??? I have a
>lot of problems calling Zyxel modems, while when Zyxel call my modem we
>usualy get a good 14400/V32B connections.
>

If the Zyxel tries to make a fax connection, it's probably getting
confused during the handshake and thinks the other modem is a fax modem.

I don't know why it disconnects when it's set for data.  Does it have error
control (MNP, V.42) enabled?


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 |  Greg Andrews   |       UUCP: {amdahl,claris}!netcom!gerg        |
 |                 |   Internet: gerg@netcom.COM                    |
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From: pascoe@rocky.gte.com (Dave Pascoe)
Subject: Re: MNP5 with WorldBlazer
Organization: GTE/MSED - Needham Heights, MA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:07:58 GMT

Greg Andrews (gerg@netcom.com) wrote:
: 
: Than I'll repeat what I said earlier.  The other modem hasn't implemented
: MNP properly if it can't handle the negotiation of MNP extensions.  Could
: this 2400/MNP-only modem have an old version of firmware?

Greg, I'm sure you're right about this.  But this has happened with
more than one model of 2400 baud modem.  Maybe they both have old
versions of MNP code but I'm not tuned in enough to know the history
of their code.  Setting S111=0 is disturbing since spoofing on
incoming calls isn't possible now......there must be a better solution
to this.

--
Dave Pascoe
Internet: pascoe@rocky.gte.com
GTE/MSED - Needham Heights, MA
(617) 455-5704
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: Dean.Roth <Dean.Roth@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Don't Order Supra ROM Upgrade
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:08:33 GMT
Keywords: Supra

In <1bfnvmINN32k@skat.usc.edu> mbaffoni@skat.usc.edu (Michael Baffoni) writes:

>In article <12643@sail.LABS.TEK.COM> thorh@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Thor Hallen) writes:
>>The ROM "upgrade" does not fix the inability of the SupraFAXModem V.32bis
>>to connect at 14.4 kbps where other brands will and the new work-arounds

>	Hmm.  Is this from personal experience?  I mean, did you sit down with 
>a Supra with the new ROMs and another equivalent modem and dial the same sites
>to compare connects?  Is this second(third?)-hand info?  Is this guessing?
>Please qualify your opinions.


Here is my experience. The calling and answering modems are in
different telephone exchanges and are under my control. (That is,
the originating modem is always in location "A" and the answering
modem is always in location "B".)

  Originating      Answering
    Modem            Modem        Result
  -----------      ---------      ------

   Supra V.32bis   Supra V.32bis  Fails at 14400. Old firmware would
                                  try to step down to 12000 or 9600.
                                  I don't see this happen with new firmware.
                                  Works at 9600.

   PPI V.32bis     Supra V.32bis  Fails at 14400. Works when S37=9N0 is
				  used to force 9600.

   Supra V.32bis   PPI V.32bis    Works at 14400.


Others using Supra or different modem brands report problems
connecting with the Supra at 14400. There have been no problems
reported connecting with the PPI at 14400.


Move the originating Supra modem from location "A" to "C" and 
now 14400 connections with the same Supra V.32bis at location
"B" work.

Are the 14400 connection problems due to the modems, teleco,
bad karma, sun spots?

Dean
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jgp@moscom.com (Jim Prescott)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Hacking USR ROMS [4.2 - 4.1]
Keywords: Supervisors.ROM.Hacks
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:58:21 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford NY

In article <Bvto06.wE@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>wwf1@ra.msstate.edu (Bill Ford) writes:
>>nor is it wrong to "trick out" your new car's engine by installing better
>>chips in the engine computer.

If your changes can effect emisions they are probably illegal in the US.

It is conceivable but unlikely that changing modem PROMS could require a
new FCC certification before the modem can be hooked up to public phone
lines.  Unlikely since I assume most modems separate the line interface
from the rest of the modem; otherwise they would need recertification every
time they update their PROMS.

The act of creating modified PROMS may involve illegal copying or it may
be considered fair use.  It would be up to the courts to decide.

>Is it wrong to modify your videocipher II TVRO descrambler to receive
>programming via satellite for which you don't subscibe to?  

I'd call this wrong.  ECPA certainly calls it illegal.

>The programmers say it is illegal.  I say it is if for profit, but not
>for personal use.

All use is for profit.  You profit by not paying for the services you use.
-- 
Jim Prescott	jgp@moscom.com		{rit,tropix,ur-valhalla}!moscom!jgp
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jerry@incc.com (Jerry Rocteur)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Hacking USR ROMS  [4.2 - 4.1]
Summary: legality
Keywords: Supervisors.ROM.Hacks
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:38:58 GMT
Organization: InCC.com Perwez Belgium

In article <1992Oct7.175225.22955@utdallas.edu>, goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal) writes:
> >>   This is HIGHLY illegal!!!!  Why I think people who purchased a Sportster
> >Why is this illegal?  If I were to buy some software, disassemble it, and 
> >modifications illegal.  Has USR expressly forbidden modification of the ROMs?
>
> Yes.  USR stated in their press release that it is against the law to
> alter any USR ROM or even, I think, use any USR modem in a manner not
> intended.
> 
> (saying the end user is breaking the law by issuing an AT command making
> it into a HST)
> 
> I'm not sure about the 2nd part.  One guy told me that he is trying to
> get a definite answer from USR but doesn't expect them to give one.
 
 Just curious, I know some Americans like to abide by the law, but,
 who _really_cares_ if it is legal or not, I buy a modem, I do what I
 like with it, it is my modem, same with my computer, I've hacked PCs
 to pieces with cards and chips etc, I love it, no one has ever walked
 into my house and looked at any of my 6 computers and modems!!
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: puma <puma@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: +++ sequence problem with USR DS 16.8k
Originator: bbs@halcyon.com
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:01:43 GMT

tbr@hardy.u.washington.edu (Todd Barnreiter) writes:

>  issue the + + + escape sequence on my USR Dual Standard 16.8k
> I immediately get a NO CARRIER and the modem hangs up.  I want
> to enter into command mode, not hang up!  My old HST never
> had this problem.  I looked through all the settings and I
> can't find anything that makes a difference.  What's the
> deal here?
> 
> -BarryB
> 
Someone already suggesting setting S14, but my modem (DS) has a dip
switch, switch 9
description is   "response to +++"
OFF - modem goes on hook (hangs up), sends NO
      CARRIER result code (factory setting)
ON  - Modem maintains connection (Online-Command
      mode), sends OK result code.

depending on your modem, one of these should fix the problem.
(Folks seems to be REAL NASTY lately when responding to messages,
but in good conscience I need to point out that you should have
gone to your manual, and looked up "escape sequence" in the index,
that's what I did...)
From: steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Zyxel numbers
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:44:40 GMT
Organization: Chiral Symmetry Breaking, Inc.

I tried calling a Zyxel BBS last night, from a number that someone posted in 
a message here, but I got no answer.

Would someone please post or mail me the proper BBS number, and the number for
ordering a modem?

Danke

-- 
Steve Robbins  --  steve@nyongwa.cam.org
Too many causes -- too few Rebels.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:01:23 EDT
From: Jeff Dubin <JD2859A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Gateway Telepath Modem help please!!

Well, I have a Telepath, haven't used it all that much (I've only had access
to my telepathed computer for a total of three days...) but I did log on to
a number of bbs's and the like, and faxed a bunch too, and surprisingly enough,
I didn't have any problems!  (Yea!)  So, this may seem obvious, but, why don't
you just call Gateway tech support?
---

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Jeff Dubin                          "I hate people... people make me
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: adam@arcadia.mc.phillip.edu.au (Adam Eberbach)
Subject: Re: Supra v.32bis prices (and where's BFJ?)
Organization: Dept. Maths and Computing, RMIT (Bundoora) Vic. Aust.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 01:47:26 GMT

robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul Robichaux) writes:
: 
: Now that I'm ready to buy one, BFJ seems to have disappeared. Did they
: go under? Who has comparable pricing? Clarinet's SPR low price is $309
: for the bare modem, and $329 for the DOS bundle.

Mail Mubashir Cheema at 'mac1@ra.msstate.edu' - I recently bought one from
him for $265 US. Our customs service delayed it, but when I eventually got 
it I was very happy with it. His have the latest roms too (1.2G? J? the one
after 1.200C anyway.)
Excellent modem! Buy one now!

: 
: I'll post a summary of responses if I receive any.
: 
: Regards,
: -Paul
: -- 
: Paul Robichaux, KD4JZG        | I invented see-through negligees and /
: robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov | I bought a flying saucer off the Presley estate
: 		  ** PGP key available on request **

Adam Eberbach adam@arcadia.mc.phillip.edu.au
From: impact@crhc.uiuc.edu (Temporary Account for HP visitors)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Dallas fax initialisation strings
Date: 12 Oct 1992 11:12:25 -0500
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz writes:


>A friend running a local BBS has an internal Dallas fax modem fitted
>which he can't enable V42/V42bis on.

>Is anyone running these modems on a BBS?

>What settings are being used?



>dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
>The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
All of the 2400 baud Dallas Fax modems has a CONFIRMED bug with v.42/v.42bis
connections. It could be possible that the same bug exists in the higher
speed modes...

We've already called up Dallas Fax and they said they would write up
an bug incident report. Who knows when they'll fix it... I've
found that their tech support is TERRIBLE and there are only TWO
people in their tech dept...

It turns out that the Dallas Fax modem is actually made by
MICC (check with ATI3) Micro Intergrated Communications Corp
at 1-800-289-6422. I talked to John Dinapoli who is their
chief technical expert on their fax modems. He did confirm
that their exists a v.42/42bis bug. But again, who knows
when it will be fixed and how...

The same exact bug also exists in other low-cost modems as well...
We've also seen this v.42bis problem in the GVC (not Global Village which
is a separate company) line of fax modems. They too do not know when a
fix will come out...

My conclusion is that one should stick with the known performers
such as USRobotics, Hayes, Microcom, Telebit, Multitech etc.
I think some other brands such as Practical Peripherals, ZXycel,
Supra perhaps also works but I've read a lot of "Rom upgrades"
in this newsgroup.... Imagine all the people who don't read
this net and don't even know about such "upgrades".....
From: Tazzie@cup.portal.com (Jon S Novak)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: 14400 v.32bis for sale (with class1&class2 fax)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 01:24:19 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

For Sale:    Dallas 14.4 Pro Plus External 14400 baud modem
             v.32bis, v.42bis, mnp, 57600 throughput (uncompressed)

             Class 1 & Class 2 9600 Baud Fax
             QLink 2 Fax Software
             5-Year Warranty
             Less than a month old

I bought one too many when a group of us bought a bunch of modems, this
is brand new.   $300 or best offer             Bitnet: ER5QC@QCVAXA
                                             InterNet: TAZZIE@Cup.Portal.Com
From: hwstock@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (stockman harlan w)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 14400bps throuhput
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:49:08 GMT
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Livermore, CA

>I am now wondering if V42 and V42bis are enabled. AT&V does not show me
>the settings. 
>
One way is to check is to set the s95 register (or equivalent on your modem). On
mine, s95=44 will give DCE speed, then show if V42bis is enabled, then
show the protocol (e.g. LAPM). This info is shown as you actually make
the connection.
From: tuc@calico.cs.wisc.edu (Brian A. Cole)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 40% Discount of ZyXELs
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:40:16 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

hwstock@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (stockman harlan w) writes:

Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) writes:
] Way out here in Albuquerque, we have BBS's that are primarily intended
] for Mac users; ironically, the server is often a DOS machine, running
] MS-DOS BBS software. On my DOS machine, the menus come up with lots of
] ANSI graphics and line-draw characters. I wonder what the Mac users
] see?

I hadn't used a DOS-oriented BBS since the IBM AT was brand new, that is
until a few days ago when I tried the ZyXEL BBS.  I am now qualified to
answer your question as to what Mac users see.  We see a bunch of strange
characters that don't make any sense.  I seem to recall almost an entire
screen of small, cursive 'f's most vividly.

Earlier in this thread someone said that ZTerm (shareware comm program
for the Mac) could display ANSI graphics.  I tried version 0.85 and got
another screenful of 'f's, so I looked a little harder and found version
0.9.  Wow, those menu-things are pretty neat-looking (if slow to transmit).

I figure most Mac users don't use ZTerm 0.9 (I didn't), so I made sure that
the log-on screen I submitted didn't use any of the strange characters.
I suppose this more-or-less means that I won't win the contest, but if I
did the BBS would be slightly less unfriendly to non-DOS people.

brian

PS.  I couldn't find a copy of ANSImouse, which supposedly can _generate_
     (as opposed to just display) ANSI screens, so I just did it by hand.
     I'm told that it is share- or free- ware, so if anybody knows where
     one is floating around I'd be interested in hearing where.  (Someone
     suggested "Olympus (the hermes support BBS)", but I don't know what
     number to call.)  Then again, I probably will never need to design
     another ANSI screen.

PPS.  Earlier in this thread, someone mentioned that the ZyXEL BBS was
      so Intel-oriented that there wasn't even an "other" option for
      the "What machine do you have?" question that all new users must
      answer.  This really stuck out at me, too, so I left a note for
      the sysops.  I got a reply today.  I'm paraphrasing, but they more-
      or-less said "yeah, we're just beginning to notice how alienating
      our system is for Mac users; but don't worry, we just use that
      question for marketing dad anyway."  :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: gewong@mtholyoke.edu (G.e.R.m.a.I.N)
Subject: Teleport Bronze or Mass?
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:36:30 GMT



I've narrowed down my search for a new modem to the Teleport 
Bronze, and the Mass Microsystems fax (96/24) modem.

Anyone has any opinions on these 2 modems?

One of the things I really would like to know is information 
about the fax software that these 2 modems use... (like, how 
easy to use, etc etc)

Also, does anyone have anything good/bad to say about Quicklink
(Xeba)'s 24/96 send and receive fax modem?

I'd appreciate any comments.

 
Thanks again,
Germain
From: eadie5295@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: USR Sportster Info Needed!REGISTER
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:14:15 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

  I would like to know all of the info on the new 14.4 Sportster (w/fax).
I would also like to know if it has the 16550 UART and if it will initiate a
fall-forward (and other neat-oh stuff).

  Thanx in advanse.
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