HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Subject: Re: Christmas? But it's only November!!
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:33:44 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Nov16.053734.12729@ucc.su.OZ.AU> mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar) writes:
>Danger Mouse sidesteps yet another religious discussion and heads for a
>topic which, although still connected with Christianity, can safely be
>discussed without the requirement of religious overtones.
[Sydney Grace Brothers parade, description of down under christmas deleted]
>, why must we put up with an
>overweight man in a furry red suit driving a sleigh through tons of fake
>bloody _snow_ every Christmas??
>"Aaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!"

"Hmmm.  Y'know, up here (N. America just east of the Rocky mountains), we have
some christmases where you can wear shorts, and others where there's four feet
of snow.  Not that that has much to do with anything, just thought you'd want
to know.

"Anyway, if you want my recommendation, draw up another christmas symbol.  Like
Santa Claus takes care of the northern hemisphere, and Louis Limabean takes
care of the south."

Big Al.  Just a thought... (No, My roomie came up with it)
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Another introduction...
Date: 19 Nov 1992 03:41:22 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1eeu7gINNl4j@gap.caltech.edu>, ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz) writes:
>Abner says, "Well, you see, 'The Moon is a Harsh Mistress' was the first
>science fiction book I ever read.  It's what got me hooked ...  So I noticed
>your name right off the bat!"

Hmmm.  The first SF book I ever read was called _Danny_Dunn_and_the_Antigravity_
_Paint_.  Don't remember whether I was in first grade or second when I read it.
First, I think.
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Subject: Rejoice, and Velvet reels
From: mfbertke@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Mary Bertke....Gwen MacThaidhg)
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:17:04 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

The door slams open and of form familiar to some comes rushing in, the bouncing
stride of her run taking her several feet into the air with each stride.  Her
paisley skirt tries to carry her on as she comes to a stop, but she manages to
hold, and shouts exaltantly:

"MICK MOLONEY AGREED TO INTERN ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

After getting this out of her system, Velvet glances around; some of the faces
are familiar, but many new faces have appeared in her long absence.  She heard
a few of the conversations that she so rudely interrupted...
"Uh, hello again.  To those who don't know me, I'm Velvet.  I'm a
Lit/Anthropology double major, with _very_ strong musical interests,
particularly Irish music...in case that wasn't fairly obvious (at least if you
know the name Mick Moloney.  He also happens to be Dr. Moloney, professor of
Anth, though not everybody knows that...)  In any case, I'm back, and hope to
be able to come in fairly frequently, at least about once a week...I'm finally
reclaiming my time.  I play Guitar, bodhran, and mandolin.  Oh, and I'm a
Christian, though apparently one of the 'quiet' kind, from what little I
"heard" of the conversation. 
     Kitten, have you seen Diana?  Last I heard she said she was trying to
learn to use mail.  Apparently she hasn't yet succeeded....
     Who else out there likes Celtic music?

                              -Velvet
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From: s9000938@cumulus.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Doormat) 
Subject: OOOOPS - Forgot
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:29:25 GMT


Forgot to mention - I've gotta use my flatmates account
for the time being for News, which explains the .sig!



More beer please Mike!


--

=======================================================================
: Jacqui Quenell  s9000938@cumulus.csd.unsw.OZ.AU    Dept of Bio Tech :
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From: u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Damien Saunders)
Subject: Re: can anyone hear me?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:39:21 GMT

feath@agora.rain.com (Feather) writes:

>Feather has been talking and expressing opinions in the Place, and no one
>has been replying.  Feather is puzzled.  Have her words been coming 
>through?

>"Can anyone hear me?"
Feather,
You are coming through loud and clearly down here in Australia.
Have a *HUG* and a drink from me.
No drink for me Mike I have an exam in about 5 hours.
Damien.
--
"Its a 106 mi to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 a pack of
cigarettes, its dark and we 're wearing sun glasses"
"Hit it" Blues Brothers Movie. Jake & Elwood.
Damien Saunders (Gunnar Njalsson SCA) Email:u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au
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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Another introduction...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:46:21 GMT



>>/* has always been a bit unhappy about the fact that he discovered
>>Heinlein so late in life.
>>"I didn't even *know* about RAH until I picked up 'Stranger' in college.
>>I'd been reading sf for a long time, so I don't have a clue as to what
>>took me so long."

>"You poor soul ...  well, I hope you read some of RAH's good novels
>eventually?"  Abner slyly looks over at Kitten, waiting for the explosion.


kitten flings herself at abner and starts to tickle him violetly (i
know that is repetitious, but it works...)

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"love is the wild card of existance"
                          rita mae brown

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From: bucknerb@bnr.ca (Brent Buckner)
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ontario, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:22:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.185039.19942@midway.uchicago.edu> mss2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1e0nccINNl8s@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>
>>And of course, I'm supposed to just sit back while Nightstalker makes claims
>>which, by implication, indicate that anybody who's not a Christian is evil
>>scum?  
>
>	"Um... Speaker-to-Minerals, I'm not at all sure what it was in his
>post which caused you to infer that he believed `anybody who's not a
>Christian is evil scum'.  

Of course, most brands of Christianity maintain that all people,
including adherents, are evil and deserving of eternal
torment.  

I don't recall encountering the term "scum" in a theological
context, so I can't address that aspect of the discussion.  1/2 :-)

-- 
at Bell-Northern Research
voice:        (613) 765-2739
Canada Post:  P.O. Box 3511, Station C, Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7
I do not claim that BNR holds these views.  
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From: mss2@quads.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer)
Subject: Re: Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Reply-To: mss2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 06:19:54 GMT

In article <1eprtdINNp1e@gap.caltech.edu> ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz) writes:

>Yes, but you can't put a deity in an accelerator and see what energy it takes
>to split him into demigods ...  Meanwhile, we chemists have a long history of
>dealing with deities!  Mercury, for example ...

	"And I point out that chemists dealing with Mercury made
themselves exemplars of the old adage that `Whom the gods would
destroy, they first make mad.'  :-) How recently is it that chemists
have reliably followed safety procedures which had some chance of
preventing various esoteric sorts of poisoning?  (And never mind the
various proto-chemical disciplines, East and West, in which ingesting
mercury compounds was intended to have beneficial effects.)  One can
only imagine what will happen if we let them handle Yahweh without
proper safety precautions.  (Proper guarding against high-voltage
static electricity is probably a minimum first step.)  :-) :-)"

Michael

-- 
Michael S. Schiffer, LHN, FCS	"Indeed I tremble for my country
mss2@midway.uchicago.edu	 when I reflect that God is just."
mike.schiffer@um.cc.umich.edu	 -- Thomas Jefferson, Notes on
mschiffer@aal.itd.umich.edu	    Virginia (1784)
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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Cyber (was Introduction was Eh?)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:05:24 GMT



>The Samurai places another dollar on the bar and
>says "Beer, please, Mike."

>He then turns to face the room.

>"Well, that answers that question.   Now, as far as
>what to call me, mostly my friends call me Cyber,
>and y'all can to since y'all are such a friendly
>bunch."

>"Having listened smatterings of the current
>conversations which are taking place in here,"
>Cyber says, "just thought I might as well add my
>two yens worth."

>"I don't even remember the name of the first Sci
>Fi book I read.  It was written by M. L'Engle and
>was about some kids who meet with a Mrs. Which
>and tesseract and such.  It is a classic I just
>cant remember the name of it.  It was also a
>trilogy.  The first Sci Fi I really remember is
>reading the Tom Swift, Jr. stories out of the
>elementary school library."


kitten pipes up...."i don't even have to switch to conan for this...it
was _a wrinkle in time_ ....a wonderful book."

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"love is the wild card of existance"
                          rita mae brown

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From: tje3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: Lamplighter's Re-Introduction
Originator: tje3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: tje3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tammy Jo Eckhart)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:57:35 GMT

ArchTeryx writes:

>ArchTeryx, hearing more good news, looks up yet again from his work on the
>ThunderKat.  He excuses himself from the huge moor cat for a moment, goes
>over, and *HUGS* the Lamplighter in his wings.  For a moment, he is buried
>in AT's bodyfeathers, then AT lets him go and smiles, "Welcome back, my friend
>and may my blessings and hope for a good life with your new bloodmate.
>(Bloodmate = 'teryx version of a spouse).

	"Mmph," says the Lamplighter, surrounded by feathers.  When ArchTeryx
lets him go he grins and says, "Being hugged by a 14-foot avian is something
that doesn't happen to me every day!  Good to see you again, AT.  Aurora says
hello to you and to everybody!  How are you?"

-         -    -  - -=---------=----=--=-=#=========#====#==#=#*#########*####*
The Lamplighter             |"There's only so many times you can type 'Pat
(Tom Lee)                   | Buchanan' into a word processor before the
tje3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu | system crashes."                    -- Love & War
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From: dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green)
Subject: Re:  Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:16:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.004550.26823@ucc.su.OZ.AU> pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker) writes:
>In article <1ek346INNemj@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>>StM points out, "Well, someone in here recently claimed that it seemed highly
>>unlikely that there could be a pro-Christian post to which I wouldn't raise
>>objections. Well, that person might want to save Liralen's post as an example
>>of the fact that he was mistaken."
>
>"Quite possible, you just hate my guts eh?  Have a drink on me Stm, and you
>can oush my guts to the side of the plate."

Mishael puts his head in his hand and shakes it for a couple minutes.  "Aie,
Nightstalker, that's no way to go about it, no attitude to take.  If you're
going to behave like that, at least take it to email.  Yes, StM does disagree
with the way you believe.  Yes, he can be rather blunt about what he says,
and rather opinionated.  But I don't think he's deliberately singled you out
as a target of His Person In Life To Despise.  It's easy to get the idea over
the net of 'Some nebulous force out there trying to get me,' since you don't
really see the people, just their words...  Carrying around a grudge and a
vendetta doesn't do much to endear you to anyone."

He stops for a moment, and thinks, then mutters, "I think I need to listen to
what I say a little more often..." and seeks out a corner to curl up in and 
think a while.
-- 
dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu		        	   David "Mishael" Green
		    Have you scritched your local Furry today? 
************************Who ordered the muon? -- I. I. Rabi*********************
  I have not been appointed Judge, Jury, or Executioner by God.  Just witness.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Lamplighter's Re-Introduction
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:16:28 GMT


Splash walks up to the Lamplighter and introduces himself.  "Hi - I'm
Splash, the resident marine biologist.  I've only been here a few months,
and so I guess I'm a newby to you.  Welcome back ... how about a refill
and a hug?"

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
Subject: Unconditional Love (was Re: God and Science)
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:20:56 GMT

"Thanks, Abner, for a *really* good example of love that just doesn't work
as a relationship, anymore..." says Liralen and smiles and offers him a
hug for the self-knowledge he's won.

In article <102899@bu.edu> mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes) writes:
>"And its good to know that I finally was more clear with my
>view on love!  I think I garbled it a bit when I first
>brought the it up!"

Liralen laughs softly, "One of the things the Net is great about is getting
one to define one's meaning and beliefs.  Curious of All Natures sorta
started it, and I hope he's following this line..."

"Thomas Gryn wrote the following in answer to my asking him, 'What is your
definition of love?':

          'A desire to help without any thought of reward or 
           reciprication, but for it's own sake.'

"It surprised the heck out of me, as it was unlike any definition I've ever
seen of the word 'love'.  I turned that definition around and around in my
brain and couldn't find a single leak or hole in it.  Romantic love is
based on the same thing, but is definitely more.  It covers my love for my
friends and my love of my family.  It even covers my strange love for the
street teens in my local city.  I'll help them out, but I also know that
they'd rob me blind if I didn't watch them like a hawk watching mice. So I
watch them, and they *expect* that and respect it as well.  They also are
highly suspicious of the fact that I give 'em food and a shoulder and an
ear without asking anything, not even 'control' over their lives, in
return; but they're learning to accept it and, sometimes offer it to each
other as well.  By that very definition, it is unconditional when it is
given.  The decision to give it or not to give it may be dependent on
circumstances, and it may be withdrawn; but while given, it *is* 
unconditional."

-- 
Liralen Li           | "... and how you feel can make it real  | - _US_
aka Phyllis Rostykus | Real as anything you've seen            |   Peter
li@Data-IO.com       | Get a life with this dreamer's dream."  |   Gabriel
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green)
Subject: Re:  Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:44:01 GMT

In article <1ebl10INNol2@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
->In article <1992Nov17.044659.16994@muddcs.claremont.edu>, dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green) writes:
->>>Yet his article showed pretty strong signs that he wasn't even aware (as he
->>>was writing the piece) that there are other branches of Christianity.
->>
->>Those being?  (If StM can demand examples, I think it's only fair that I be
->>able to as well.)
->
->To name a few:
	[list deleted]
I meant, what are the signs, not what are the branches.
-- 
dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu		        	   David "Mishael" Green
		    Have you scritched your local Furry today? 
************************Who ordered the muon? -- I. I. Rabi*********************
  I have not been appointed Judge, Jury, or Executioner by God.  Just witness.
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From: dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.com (Gillett, David)
Subject: Re: illuminati
Reply-To: dgil@ipsaint.ipsa.reuter.com (Gillett, David)
Organization: Reuters APL Software Division
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:03:02 GMT

moi:
> So, does the Tri-Lateral Commission still exist?

Christopher Francis Anderson:
> What is the Tri-Lateral Commision?
>
> And why?

moi:
  This thread started with Kitten's suggestion that the new U.S. president-
  elect might be affiliated with the Illuminati or other conspiratorial
  international secret society.
    Some of us, especially the Coots (even us Young Coots), remember the
  previous time that the U.S. elected a Democrat as president, Jimmy Carter.
  One of the lesser problems of his administration was the persistence of
  claims that
    (a) some of his top advisors were members of the TLC, including National
        Security advisor Zbiginew ("Zbig Daddy") Brzezinski (no, I don't think
        that's quite how it's spelt...),
    (b) the TLC is/was an international conspiracy, and
    (c) the president was himself *secretly* a member.
  As far as I know, (a) was true and no secret; (b) and (c) were never really
  demonstrated.

                                            Mentor the Young Coot

-----------Message forwarded from IPSA Mailbox-------------
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From: steve@crc.ricoh.COM (Stephen R. Savitzky)
Subject: Re: Where does the time go?
Organization: RICOH California Research Center
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:47:58

"Well, DM," says the Mandelbear, "Grand Central Starport is ready and
waiting to host a realspace if you decide to come to the SF Bay Area.
See address and phone number in my .sig.  By all means, pay us a
visit!"
--
\ --Steve Savitzky--  \    343 Leigh Ave   \ REAL HACKERS USE AN AXE!
 \ steve@crc.ricoh.COM \ San Jose, CA 95128 \     Free Cyberia!
  \ w: 415-496-5710     \   h:408-294-6492   \ 
   \_________________________________________________________________________
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From: mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar)
Subject: Re: Pizza pty report
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:35:38 GMT

> [Rowan reports on a pizza party:]
>5. a modified Hawaiian with Canadian bacon, olives, pineapple [...]

Danger Mouse shows his cultural ignorance again. "I've seen this mentioned
before. Can somebody please explain what 'Canadian bacon' is? I am
assuming it is not merely bacon from Canada - else why distinguish it
from any other bacon?"

- Danger Mouse.
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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: FOOD FIGHT !!! and new-comer...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:25:04 GMT

In <1992Nov16.021049.21573@news.Hawaii.Edu> mwasson@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson) writes:

>>>>She takes out another amulet and puts it on, and offers others to Susan,
>>>>Liralen and Bear. "Does anybody else want a protective amulet? All it does
>>>>is make messy stuff rebound on the caster. But these things -won't- stop
>>>>peanuts or other stuff that won't hurt or mess up the wearer."
>>
>>"Will they stop fungus and dairy products?  Been hungering for a mushroom
>>and cheese amulet lately..."

>Gecko-boy meanders in.  He's been lurking just outside the doorway, 
>reptilian style, for some time now.

>"This place sure is occult above the rest. Mind is I sit down for
>a spell?"  [I know, that one's potion it...]

>He walks over to the bar and orders a shot of Jack Daniels with a
>Dos Equis chaser.

kitten groans at gecko-boy's awful joke...and throws a peanutt at
him...following it with an official welcoming hug to the Place.

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"love is the wild card of existance"
                          rita mae brown
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Subject: Re: puns and cons
From: olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there)
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:41:14
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.
In-reply-to: mdm@sparc2.prime.com's message of 16 Nov 92 22:25:24 GMT

In article <4299@cvbnetPrime.COM> mdm@sparc2.prime.com (Michael D. McAfee) writes:

>		"In January, the Arisia convention is happening in
>	Boston.  Along with the other con things I'll be doing, I've
>	been asked to be part of a panel, called 'Filk and the SCA.'
>	This is it, folks, I've hit the big time at last.  Fame.
>	Fortune.  A lifetime of ease and indolence, mine for the taking.
>	Bwa-ha-ha-huh?  Oh, sorry, I slipped into a minor delusion of 
>	grandeur.  It won't happen again.
>
>		"Anyway, I can e-mail you info about Arisia if you'd
>	like.  If you'd like to meet there, we can probably arrange
>	times and places.

"I'm going to be there... anyone else? RealSpace, anyone?"

--
-Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@{gnu.ai,silver.lcs}.mit.edu 
"These are the days you might fill with laughter until you break. These days
you might feel a shaft of light make its way across your face... And when you 
do you'll know how it was meant to be..." -10,000 Maniacs, "These Are Days"



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From: dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green)
Subject: Re:  Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:52:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.062803.22949@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
->In article <1992Nov18.043643.16303@muddcs.claremont.edu> dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green) writes:
->>
->>I don't follow this point at all.  I consider atheism and agnosticism to be
->>religions in that they are a series of beliefs about God.  I suppose that
->>the way I use it is to a degree synonymous with 'philosophy,' though I don't
->>think that's exactly the word I want in this case.
->
->Nope.  You could consider 'atheism' and 'agnosticism' to be religious
->beliefs, but without structure or religious practices they can't be an
->actual religion.

Yes!  Thank you, that was what I was meaning (and failing *miserably*) to say!
-- 
dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu		        	   David "Mishael" Green
		    Have you scritched your local Furry today? 
************************Who ordered the muon? -- I. I. Rabi*********************
  I have not been appointed Judge, Jury, or Executioner by God.  Just witness.