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From: peterg@acci.com.au (Peter Gill)
Subject: PD UNIX for A500 
Keywords: Amiga
Reply-To: peterg@acci.com.au
Organization: Australian Computing and Communications Institute
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:45:23 GMT

HI I am currently working in a UNIX environment and would dearly love to
get hold of a PD version - with source - for my A500. (No source is supplied 
with AIX -IBM UNIX)

Thanks in advance
___________________
Regards, Peter GIll
peterg@acci.com.au
(03) 282 2506
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: Anu.Kapoor@launchpad.unc.edu (Anu Kapoor)
Subject: Re: The X Window System
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 02:12:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.215205.27877@samba.oit.unc.edu> Anu.Kapoor@launchpad.unc.edu (Anu Kapoor) writes:
>
>Is there a cheap/easy way to run the X Window System on the amiga?
><less than GfxBase's X Server>
>
>Just Wondering.
>
>Cordially,
>Anu Kapoor
>
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From: Darren_Spencer@guru.apana.org.au (Darren Spencer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Help with dead Unix
Distribution: world
Date: 26 Dec 92 11:36:52 +1100
Organization: Guru Meditation BBS

Hi there,

     I have succeeded yet again in somehow killing unix. I have Version 2.1
     with the patch applied.

     THis is the error i get when i try to boot unix...

     PANIC: swapconf lookupname /dev/dsk/c0d0s2 failed error 2

     4.0 2.1c 0800430 Backtrace
     4001F28:  783E66C -> 78595a4
     more addresses

     Double Panic (more addresses)


     Obviously the something has happened to the swap space.. but what?

     I use the install disks to try and fix it...

     Select the keyborad...

     Tell it to repair...

     States that mount of /dev/dsk/c0d0s0 failed - invalid argument..

     then....

          Do you wish to fsck /dev/dsk/c0d0s1 [y]
          can't open /etc/mnttab
          ** /dev/dsk/c0d0s1
          BAD SUPER BLOCK: MAGIC NUMBER WRONG
          Use -b option to save location of an alternate super-block
          to supply needed info. See fsck(1m).


     Any ideas...

     This error has occured before... the only way to correct was to
reinstall
     the tape. This is a problem since the tape i have is faulty.

     Any help would be appreciated (hint there Frank Edwards :)

     Regards,

          Darren

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From: bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce Albrecht)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re:  A3070 tape drive, Amiga Unix, and AmigaDOS
Distribution: world
Date: 1 Jan 93 14:39:37 CST
Organization: Society to Stamp Out Bogus Organizations

In article <BzqAxG.BMJ@cs.columbia.edu> won@cs.columbia.edu (Won Y. Kim) writes:
>In article <BzMuK2.2v6@digiboard.digibd.com> rhealey@rogue.digibd.com (Rob Healey) writes:
>>|> 
>>	If you can get AmigaUNIX 2.1 it is a 250M format tape. 3070's do
>>	just fine with 250M tapes. The urban legend is that you stick
>>	with one size, 150M or 250M, and never switch or else you do weird
>>	stuff to the tape heads.
>>
>>		-Rob
>
>Does this mean that the legends is false??

3M used to put a warning on 250 Mbyte tape drives to not swap between 150 and
250 Mbyte cartridges, but I've only been using 150 Mbyte cartridges and it
doesn't seem to have them.  I once called 3M, and the only thing they told me
was that it wouldn't hurt if there was occasional use of one or the other, but
they recommended picking one size for all regular use.
--
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From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: utmp problems
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn-beta 1.16g (28.12.92) by Michael B. Smith & Mike Schwartz
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Date: 30 Dec 92 06:27:51 EST
Organization: Well, I haven't decided on a name yet...

In article <1hrp76INN5ji@zikzak.apana.org.au> zik@zikzak.apana.org.au (Michael Saleeba) writes:
> I'm running Amiga UNIX 2.1 on a system which is quite heavily loaded
> with a number of users. I have continuous problems with the machine
> getting confused between users. For instance "whoami" might show "zik"
> but "logname" tells me "brumby", which is patently untrue.

> It's a real pain when you get a talk request from someone and when you
> respond they get your talk request as if it came from someone else.
>
> Does anyone have a solution to these problems?

I don't have a solution, but I can tell you that it also happens on
Esix 4.0.3.  It is not an Amiga UNIX problem only....
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: crash@ckctpa.UUCP (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
Subject: DNet sgcopy server not working?
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 16:50:09 GMT
Reply-To: crash%ckctpa@myrddin.sybus.com (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
Organization: Edwards & Edwards Consulting
Keywords: dnet putfiles

Okay folks, here's the scoop.  I got the dnet2.20 binaries from
amiga.physik and installed them.  My tester tells me that when he runs
"dnet -m0" the fterm comes up okay.  But putfiles complains that it
can't connect.  (Although "ps" shows "server.8201.1001" running --
that's the sgcopy server that handles putfiles.)  Looking the DNET
directory I find a ".PORT.8201" named FIFO, a "DNET. " FIFO (why is
there a space?), and the typical dnet.servers and DNET.LOG files...

I'm driving down to his place this afternoon, so I'll get to take a
look at it from his end (hopefully) and perhaps I can find the
problem.  I'm thinking that if this version of DNet is working for
others, there must be a local setup/installation problem on my
machine.

I've checked the permissions on /dev/pts and /dev/pts/*, on every
binary in /usr/local/dbin (where my DNet binaries are).  The DNET.LOG
file contains the following message(s) from the last session:

    DNet startup
    Log file placed in /home/dad/DNET/
    8 bit mode selected
    DNET RUNNING, Listenfd=3
      CONNECT2 -1[149] Operation already in progress
    QUIT 4

I wasn't tail'ing the file as my tester was trying things out, so I'm
not sure but I would suspect that the CONNECT error was at the start
of the second putfiles attempt (the first one started the server but
couldn't connect, so the second fails also?).

Permissions on /usr/lib/pt_chmod are 4111 (first thing I checked!).

I may try rebuilding the binaries from scratch if I don't get any
other ideas before then.

I'm open to any and all suggestions.  Especially from folks that've
grabbed that version of DNet and are *successfully* running it.
-- 
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Home: 813/786-3675             don't ask UUNET to route it -- it's sloooow.
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    the back and tells you how great you are ... so hold on to your wallet.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: crash@ckctpa.UUCP (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
Subject: Re: Compiling DNet with SysVr4 patches...
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:05:50 GMT
Reply-To: crash%ckctpa@myrddin.sybus.com (Frank "Crash" Edwards)
Organization: Edwards & Edwards Consulting

bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>I'd be happy if someone would just tell me exactly WHICH files I
>need, both for the original source and all of the other files.
>
>Which patches + the bsd library + which sources = SysV-DNet?

Look on amiga.physik.unizh.ch in the amix/new directory for dnetsvr4.tar.Z
and libbsd43.so.Z (or something close to that).

Markus had included binaries for both the dnetsvr4 and libbsd43.so,
but as the bsd library was still changing, up-to-date source wasn't on
amiga.physik as of Tues or Wed.

>From SysV, you see, I've got to port to HP/UX 8.0.  So...
>Greg
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Home: 813/786-3675             don't ask UUNET to route it -- it's sloooow.
    "An apple a day will keep the doctor away."
    "Perhaps, but will that work in NetHack 3.0, patchlevel 10?"
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
Subject: Re: Does dlopen consume a fd?
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:01:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>The documentation is mute on this point.  If one dlopens 30 shared
>objects (with no dlcloses), has one consumed 30 fds?

Modulo bugs in the library, no, one hasn't, at least not in SunOS
4.1[.x], and probably not in SVR4, either.

SunOS 4.x "mmap()" is different from the "mmap()" originally proposed by
Berkeley, in that if the file descriptor used in the "mmap()" is closed,
mappings established with that FD are *not* removed.  This was done, in
part, precisely to *avoid* having shared libraries - and "dlopen()"ed
objects - consume file descriptors.  SVR4's "mmap()" behaves in that
fashion, and I think BSD's new "mmap()" does so as well.
From: det@hawkmoon.mn.org (Derek Terveer)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
Subject: Re: SVR4: getminor(D3DK) [solved]
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:33:21 GMT
Organization: Demi-Public System (One of the Eternal Champions); Eagan, MN, 55123-2507, USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Mea Culpa.  I finally figured out that I needed the constant _KERNEL
(neither KERNEL nor INKERNEL which also show up in the various <sys/*.h>
files) defined during compilation of my driver.  I didn't need this in
R3.2 (of ESIX) and I didn't think to add to my R4 driver.  But that did
the trick.  The _KERNEL conditionally compiles some function defintions
for getminor(), et. al.

derek
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
From: art@chaos.cs.umn.edu ()
Subject: Beta site for virtual/mirrored disk
Summary: Need Beta site for virtual/mirrored disk technology
Keywords: Mirrored/Virtual
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:49:01 GMT


I have posted some recent articles regarding a virtual disk and
am happy to announce that a primitive version is ready for beta testing
and I am looking for a site that would be willing try this thing out.

The first version is not really a virtual disk but rather a mirrored
disk using two nodes. The size is configurable and the mirroring is all
done in software assumming the following tools are available.


The reason I need a beta site other than my own is that we are technology
company and do not have an on-line type UNIX system with any significant
demand. 



 SCO unix 3.2 (development system would be useful)
 TCP/IP
 NFS would be nice but could make do with TCP/IP
 (I would be willing to port the technology to other platforms on
  a custom bassis)


For More Info Please mail me at
art@chaos.cs.umn.edu
or call
612-375-1066
Fax 612-375-0131
Polaic Research

Terms are negotiable (is that speled OK?)
From: bill@wafbox.gwinnett.com (Bill Fulton)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
Subject: Re: SVR4: getminor(D3DK)
Date: 30 Dec 92 02:36:53 GMT
Reply-To: bill@wafbox.UUCP (Bill Fulton)
Organization: (Home)

In article <1992Dec16.040749.3041@hawkmoon.mn.org> det@hawkmoon.mn.org (Derek Terveer) writes:
>Thomas Jagodits (jagodits@vega2.wrc.Xerox.COM) wrote:
>: In article <1992Dec14.034005.13663@hawkmoon.mn.org> det@hawkmoon.mn.org (Derek Terveer) writes:
>: >I am having problems with the getminor() call.  I am making some calls
>: >to getminor() in order to extract the minor numbers, according to the
>: >ddi/dki ref manual:
>: >__minor                             sdsg/Driver.o
>: >__major                             sdsg/Driver.o
>: >__makedev                           sdsg/Driver.o
>:
>:  Did you miss to include <sys/sysmacros.h> ?
>:  All the listed undefined are there.
>
>I did have <sys/sysmacros.h> included and I still got those undefined
>externs.  Then, while looking through the <sys/ddi.h> file I came upon
>the following section:
>/* The following declarations take the place of macros in
> * sysmacros.h The undefs are for any case where a driver includes
> * sysmacros.h, even though DDI conforming drivers must not.
  ...
>This led me to believe that I should not include sysmacros.h.  Is this
>an incorrect assumption?

From "Writing a Unix Device Driver" (2nd Edition):
    "If you are using System V Release 4.0 and want to be compatible with the
    DDI and the DKI, ddi.h must be included *last*. ddi.h will undefine
    several macros that may be declared in /usr/include/sys/sysmacros.h and
    replace these with function calls."

This still doesn't answer your main question, but seemed relevant (and worth
broadcasting).

By the way, the new second edition of this book is very well worth getting
(especially now that it's in paperback). It's a damned shame that the authors
can't explain their topics more clearly and that they are not more organized,
but there is, at the very least, a wealth of tidbits, such as the above,
throughout the book. Also, there are several tables comparing SysV3, SysV4,
and BSD Unix device driver details. Info is:

    by Egan & Teixeira
    Publisher: Wiley
    ISBN: O-471-53575-3

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
From: rminnich@super.org (Ronald G Minnich)
Subject: Re: Does dlopen consume a fd?
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center (Bowie, MD)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 20:35:39 GMT

In article <16068@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
>SunOS 4.x "mmap()" is different from the "mmap()" originally proposed by
>Berkeley, in that if the file descriptor used in the "mmap()" is closed,
>mappings established with that FD are *not* removed.  This was done, in
>part, precisely to *avoid* having shared libraries - and "dlopen()"ed
>objects - consume file descriptors.  

One other problem it seems to me had closed file descriptors removed
mappings would have been mysterious problems when users accidently
close the wrong fd and e.g. blew away their library mapping. 
There are many user programs that simply walk through all fd's and 
close them all. Requiring these programs  to now figure out what was
an fd for a  library and not mess with it might have been a serious problem.
At the very least sounds like a support nightmare. 
Was this issue considered as well?
ron


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
From: alex@doris.par.univie.ac.at (Alexander Celic)
Subject: Big problem with performance measuring on a INTEL HYPERCUBE
Organization: University of Vienna
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:57:50 GMT


Hi, there!

   I've been measuring performance of some Fortran 77 commands on an
Intel's HYPERCUBE. The data I've become is very unstable (read: one 
kernel takes ALLWAYS  same other time to execute; the difference between
two different meassurements can be up to a factor 4 !!!)

   Of course, the main source of this problem lies on pipeline and
cache, but is there allso something more? If somebody had the same problem,
I'd really like to know how he (she?) solved it. I couldn't think of anything
but taking the middle result. Has anybody found some other way?
From: jbarth@ep.ieee.org (Jeremy Barth)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
Subject: Re: Terminating idle users
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:33:14 GMT
Reply-To: jbarth@ep.ieee.org
Organization: IEEE, New York, NY

You can check the most recent access time of a given
set of "terminal" devices.  See "Answers to Unix" in
the October 1991 UnixWorld for a shell script that
automatically logs out idle users.

Jeremy
Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
From: witr@rwwa.COM (Robert Withrow)
Subject: Re: Does dlopen consume a fd?
Reply-To: witr@rwwa.com
Organization: R.W. Withrow Associates
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 19:29:57 GMT

Thanks all for the info.  A person at sun also confirmed that dlopen *doesn't*
consume a fd:

> No, it doesn't.  This is possible because mmap'ed files stay mapped, even
> after the fd you used to open the file with originally is closed.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
From: josephs@msen.com (Joseph Stroup)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
Subject: Help CD ROM & BSDI
Date: 2 Jan 1993 23:01:36 -0500
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com

To make a long story short I have BSDI Gamma .0.9.4 and a Mitsumi CD ROM.
They say to set the CD up as Port 340 IRQ 2/9 and DRQ as 3. If anyone
of you experts has done this please e-mail me with the settings. 

I have set the jumpers to IRQ and the port correctly but there is not
a spot for the DMA jumper 3 on 5,6 and 7. The Rom works fine under dos 5
and I tried to run the install. It gets to the root question looking
for the device name , then I enter the  CD ROM code mcd0 after that it
see's the rom and hangs. The box its on is running a Conner IDE drive
and I know that one reason why the different settings.

I know that something simple will fix this and I have hardware all over
the place. I also have e-mail into BSDI and will call Monday a.m. Meanwhile
I just hoped one of you out there in Net land has done this andis running
this.

                  Email  josephs@garnet.msen.com

                  Thanks in advance.
                  `:wq
                  
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals,comp.unix.programmer
From: dphelps@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (david.j.phelps)
Subject: UNIX IPC
Followup-To: poster
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:27:06 GMT


Hello all,

I am a student studying for a degree in Real-time computing and I
have a project to do concerning Inter Process Communication under
the UNIX operating system. I am finding it difficult to find evaluative
information on this subject. In particular message passing, semaphores
and shared memory. The kind of information I need is the problems
associated with using them.

Could you please reply to my e-mail address at the end of this 
mail, thanks.

I would be very grateful if anyone could be of help.

Thanks in advance,

David Phelps 

daphelps@mlsma.att.com
 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals,comp.unix.questions
From: gjkriger@gjk.ocunix.on.ca (George J. Kriger)
Subject: Does SCO unix have IPFORWARD equivalent
Summary: How to turn off IP fwd-ing with SCO unix
Keywords: SCO IPFORWARD TCP
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 12:17:33 GMT

BSD-style kernels have the IPFORWARD variable to turn off automatic
forwarding of IP packets on a multi-homed host.

Does SCO unix have an equivalent ?? When running a multi-homed host under
SCO unix, how do you prevent automatically forwarding packets between the
networks.

gjkriger@gjk.ocunix.on.ca (George J. Kriger)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.internals
From: witr@rwwa.COM (Robert Withrow)
Subject: Does dlopen consume a fd?
Reply-To: witr@rwwa.com
Organization: R.W. Withrow Associates
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:38:19 GMT

The documentation is mute on this point.  If one dlopens 30 shared
objects (with no dlcloses), has one consumed 30 fds?

If so, how does one merge a shared object without consuming fds?  The
doco implys that dlclose will unmap the shared object...

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: /dev
Organization: The World
	<1992Dec22.181954.16625@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:24:23 GMT


From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
>Really, Blair, I would expect you to know better.
>
>Not everybody even *has* lpr.  Not everybody that has it uses it.

This sort of noise cant has become some kind of politically correct
kind of thing...

The original person who asked specifically asked if using lpr might do
what he wanted. One would hope onlookers can mentally replace lpr with
lp and get the basic message about the relative merits of popen'ing
the obvious utility versus going for the devices directly etc.

They should let the user specify a command.  They may want to let the
installer specify some common commands so the users don't have to
remember them.

>They should *not* hardwire anything, including "lpr", except as a
>last-ditch default.

Unless, of course, the software is meant to only run on systems with
lpr.

Not everyone is developing for the entire universe, some people are
spec'd to a particular environment and trying to minimize all the
setup/installation as a first goal, given the original poster's
questions specifically mentioning lpr and printcap one might guess
that his environment had these features, and zipless installation was
the motivation for the question, not zipless installation on any
system that might exist on the net, zipless installation on systems
which had lpr and printcap.

Some of us don't even consider portability to SysVr4 an important
quality in software any more than we try to make our C programs
compile ziplessly on MS/DOS or VMS. Svr4 is its own reward.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.wizards
Subject: NeXT without netinfo?
From: oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu (Oleg Kibirev)
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:18:02 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University in Fresno

NeXT  adminstration guide  says  that it's  impossible to  use a  NeXT without
Netinfo.   I  find it very unfortunate, since  I really want to be able to  do
things  from remote hosts or  even dialup. GUI in /NextAdmin doesn't  run well
over a dialup line, of course. Moreover, I find it rather confusing  when good
old  system files like /etc/passwd or /etc/services are completely ignored and
UNIX programs that are supposed to change them have no effect.

Anyway, I decided to check if it's really impossible to leave without NetInfo.
I commented out a few lines in /etc/rc that start NetInfo daemons and nothing
horrible happened. However I did notice a few gotchas:

- npd  (network printer  daemon)  complains  and dies  if  it can't  find it's
favourite netinfo. I guess it's fine since this machine doesn't have a printer
anyway. However, if I remove npd  from rc, NeXT will go single-user mode after
rc - despite exit 0 in the end of it. Why???

- I can't get DNS to work.  /etc/resolv.conf is  silently ignored. Actually, I
never got it to work with netinfo as well. Anyone knows what is the matter?

- I get a message from login window about netinfo being dead every time a user
logs out. Why would it need netinfo? Is there a simple way to make it happy?

Oleg

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