HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jjhayes@nbrwh75.bnr.ca (Jeff Hayes)
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Tin v1.1 PL5 newsreader posted to alt.sources
Keywords: tin ewsreader news nntp cdrom unix patch
Reply-To: jjhayes@x400gate.bnr.ca
Organization: Northern Telecom Public Switching, Bramalea Product Tech. S908
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:49:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.174329.560@anl433.uucp>, lea%anl433.uucp@Germany.EU.net (Iain Lea) writes:
   }I have posted TIN v1.1 PL5 (patch) to alt.sources in 7 parts. README follows...
   }
   }For ftp & non-ftp source & binary availability read the FTP file.
   }

it would have been a nice thing to have put the ftp addr in your post
so that i could ftp without having to dig the FTP file out of the articals
in comp.sources :-(   Dont get me wrong, i want to try Tin out for the
feature of handling split, mailed files!  but i don't have it now and
so have a bunch of hand work to do to extract the FTP file you mention.
:-)
-- 

jeff hayes                      ESN 333-3894   phone (416) 452-3894
jjhayes@bnr.ca                  Northern Telecom, Prod Tech, Bramalea Ont
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: ron@rivm.nl (Ron Roozendaal)
Subject: Re: Newsreader for PC running PC-NFS
Reply-To: ron@rivm.nl
Organization: RIVM
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:31:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.174256.9449@cs.wayne.edu> simone@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu
(Simone Douglas 577-0108) writes:
>Where can I find a shareware/public domain Newsreader that will run
>on a PC running PC-NFS. Please mail me direct with any info.
>
>Thanks, Doug        
>--
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>   o__        | Electrical & Computer Engineering 
>   ,>/-       | Detroit, Michigan 48202 USA
>   O \O       | simone@trace.eng.wayne.edu
>

Use:

pktmux to multiplex the packetdriver

and

trumpet as a newsreader!

Ron
From: swlodin@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Steve Lodin)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: reading news from multiple NNTP servers.
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:05:47 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.
Originator: swlodin@kocrsw15


Another way to do it using xrn is:

xrn -nntpServer host.domain -newsrcFile ~/.newsrc-host.domain


Just figured that one out today :-)


Steve
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#include	<standard.disclaimer>
#include	<fancy.pseudo.graphics>
From: gedwards@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Gordon Edwards)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Trumpet Shell for FTP Software TCP stack.
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:40:02 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In article <peter.359.713684839@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.au> peter@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.au (Peter R. Tattam) writes:
 ...
>Here is the documentation file accompanying it.
>==================================================================
 ...
>A batch file that reads news on my system:
>
>\pctcp\ethdrv
>newsx
>\pctcp\inet unload
 ...
>Comment from Peter R. Tattam
>----------------------------
 ...
>The distributed name of the abi-version of Trumpet is newsabi.exe.  This may
>need to be renamed to news.exe or news2.exe

newsabi.exe does need to be renamed to news2.exe before the above batch
file will work.

-- Gordon

=============================================================================
Gordon Edwards, N4VPH              |         "Nothing Unreal Exists"
NCR Engineering & Manufacturing    |
gedwards@ncratl.atlantaga.ncr.com  |  Kiri-Kin-Tha's First Law of Metaphysics
From: Mark_Connell@vnet.ibm.com (Mark Connell)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 09:00:00 EST
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: inews for trn
Reply-To: Mark_Connell@vnet.ibm.com
          Mark_Connell@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: Australian Programming Centre Melbourne, IBM Australia
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: Usenet 3.0

Please pardon my ignorance, but where do I get inews from so I can build and
use trn with a remote NNTP News server.

Mark Connell                                  E-Mail: Mark_Connell@vnet.ibm.com
Melbourne, Australia                           Phone: +61-3-626-6356
                                                 FAX: +61-3-626-6386
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 |                      Practice random acts of kindness                      |
 |                           and senseless beauty                             |
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Xref: sparky news.software.readers:1621 alt.sources.d:997 comp.sources.d:1169
From: hakanl@lulea.trab.se (H}kan Lennest}l)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,alt.sources.d,comp.sources.d
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: Tin v1.1 PL5 newsreader posted to alt.sources
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:09:41 GMT
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Organization: Telia Research AB, Aurorum 6, 951 75 Lulea, Sweden
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

If you are going to install tin 1.1 PL5 as setuid news, remember to remove the 
set_tin_uid_gid() call from kill.c

/H}kan
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 Fax:    +46-920-75490                  | Aurorum 6
 Voice:  +46-920-75459                  | S-95175 LULEA, SWEDEN
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: ds11129@medtronic.COM (Dean R. Schrimpf)
Subject: TIN post to alt.sources, where is it???
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 22:45:53 GMT

I have been patiently waiting for TIN patch level 5 to arrive, but have not
seen it.  Whats up??

Dean

--
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Medtronic, Inc., M/S T480           UUCP: uunet!medtron!dean.schrimpf
7000 Central Ave. N.E.             Phone: (612) 574-3581
Minneapolis, MN 55432                FAX: (612) 574-6177
From: Gordon.Edwards@AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Gordon Edwards)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Trumpet and Wollongong Pathway
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:15:34 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

Does anyone know how to make the Trumpet newsreader work with Wollongong's 
Pathway software? (perhaps in a similair way to the Trumpet Shell for
FTP Software's software?)

-- Gordon
From: Mark_Connell@vnet.ibm.com (Mark Connell)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 02:38:14 EST
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Feature for tin PL5
Reply-To: Mark_Connell@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: Australian Programming Centre Melbourne, IBM Australia
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: Usenet 3.0

I like the new 'C' command in PL5 to catchup and go to the next group with
unread news. It would be helpful if you could include a status line on the
thread listing page that shows what the next group is and its thread/article
count.

Mark Connell                                  E-Mail: Mark_Connell@vnet.ibm.com
Melbourne, Australia                           Phone: +61-3-626-6356
                                                 FAX: +61-3-626-6386
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 |                      Practice random acts of kindness                      |
 |                           and senseless beauty                             |
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: qianli@ecf.toronto.edu (QIAN Li)
Subject: Where can I get TL1 software gackage?
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:36:12 GMT

I am looking for a software package: TL1. It is usually used for telecommunications.
If you have any information about this package, please send me a E-mail at
qianli@ecf.toronto.edu.

Thank you for your information.

Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: Gertjan Koetsier <gertjan_koetsier@mentorg.com>
Subject: How do I save my page setup in Nuntius 1.1
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:50:48 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics corporation

I am using Nuntius as a newsreader because I prefer it to news on the
mac. But
unfortunately I cannot save the page setup (I work in europe so I use
the A4 format
instead of the US legal).

Please help.

***************************************
*  Gertjan Koetsier                   *
*  Telecom Consultant                 *
*  Mentor Graphics Corporation        *
***************************************
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: simone@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Simone Douglas 577-0108)
Subject: FAQ
Reply-To: simone@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Simone Douglas 577-0108)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:53:10 GMT

Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup? If yes, where can I get it?

Thanks, Doug
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   O \O       | simone@trace.eng.wayne.edu
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Where can I find trn source?
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:18:51 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

The trn source is available via anonymous FTP from ftp.uu.net.
-- 
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District Information Services      Costa Mesa, CA, USA  92626
Technical Support                  (714) 432-5064
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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: gweil@ichips.intel.com (Garry A. Weil)
Subject: Re: Newsreader for PC running PC-NFS
Summary: It really works
Keywords: Trumpet PC-NFS
Organization: MultiMedia Software Tools Group, Intel Corp.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:52:44 GMT

In article <BtAGH2.18F@rivm.nl> ron@rivm.nl (Ron Roozendaal) writes:
>Newsgroups: news.software.readers
>Path: intelhf!ichips!iWarp.intel.com|uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!rivm!news
>From: ron@rivm.nl (Ron Roozendaal)
>Subject: Re: Newsreader for PC running PC-NFS
>Message-ID: <BtAGH2.18F@rivm.nl>
>Sender: news@rivm.nl
>Reply-To: ron@rivm.nl
>Organization: RIVM
>References: <1992Aug18.174256.9449@cs.wayne.edu>
>Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:31:49 GMT
>Lines: 22

>In article <1992Aug18.174256.9449@cs.wayne.edu> simone@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu
>(Simone Douglas 577-0108) writes:
>>Where can I find a shareware/public domain Newsreader that will run
>>on a PC running PC-NFS. Please mail me direct with any info.
>>
>>Thanks, Doug        
>>--
>>              | Wayne State University  
>>   o__        | Electrical & Computer Engineering 
>>   ,>/-       | Detroit, Michigan 48202 USA
>>   O \O       | simone@trace.eng.wayne.edu
>>

>Use:

>pktmux to multiplex the packetdriver

>and

>trumpet as a newsreader!

>Ron 
It really works! I am using it right now.
----------
Garry Weil
gweil@ichips.intel.com		After August 28th:gweil@ibeam.ht.intel.com
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com (Steve Dahmen)
Subject: GRIPE about XRN 6.17 (Motif)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:41:50 -0400
X-Received: by usenet.pa.dec.com; id AA23238; Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:41:02 -0700
X-Received: by inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com; id AA01298; Wed, 12 Aug 92 15:41:01 -0700
X-Received: by sl0091.srl.ford.com (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03)          id AA07724; Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:41:50 -0400
X-To: news.software.readers.usenet

Oh boy.... a "List Old" button just came outta nowhere. forget it.

-- 
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Ford Motor Company
smd@sl0091.srl.ford.com
313-248-2418 (work)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Tin
From: vshlomit@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il (Shlomit Gwetta)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:38:33 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center


What is the last version of Tin, and from where I can get it ?


	Shlomit. (email vshlomit@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: cramer@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Cramer)
Subject: LIST vs GROUP -- inconsistant?
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 01:10:40 GMT

I have a news reader (TheNews) running at a number of sites.  
At a few sites, the server will give a response to the LIST 
command that includes a line like, for example,

some.group 1703 1 y

which would indicate that for 'some.group', the server has
articles 1 through 1703.  However, when I send the GROUP command,
the server replies:

211 3 1701 1703 some.group

which indicates that 'some.group' has only 3 articles, 1701-1703.
I will assume (without really knowing!) that the LIST information
comes out of the 'active' file and the GROUP information comes 
out of a peek at the appropriate spool directory.  The question
however, is why does the information differ?  

Perspiring minds want to know...

Bill Cramer

251 West Central Street, Suite 142	| "You can buy better, 
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From: simonb@playpen.uk.sun.com (Simon Burgoyne - Sun Camberley, UK - Snr SE)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Scritps for down loading news groups
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:50:35 GMT
Reply-To: simonb@playpen.uk.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: playpen.uk.sun.com

Hi,

I am trying to get hold of any interesting sh,csh or perl scripts that will
allow me to pull a number of files from a news server using NNTP. I have some
thing called grabnews but I was wondering if there are any other ones I should
be aware of.

Thanks for your help,

Rgds,

Simon
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: XHDR question
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:11:28 GMT

I am trying to write a newsreader.  I would like to use the XHDR command
to simplify some operations, only, this command isn't in RFC 977.  Is it
safe to use this command?  Do most NNTP servers understand XHDR?

Thanks in advance for any help you can send!
-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: no Message-ID header with mini-inews
From: mcclure@mimbres.cs.unm.edu (Brent Mcclure)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:36:01 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of New Mexico

I'm having problem getting posts to work from news clients.  I've set up
the clients to use the mini-inews that comes with nntp and the server
uses the cnews inews script.  The problem is that when posting from a client
the article makes it to the server alright, but the Message-ID header is 
never created  by mini-inews or anywhere else along the way. 
The article then gets thrown out by relaynews. (by the way, posts made from
the news server do have all the right headers and work fine).

I've found that I can hand edit the missing Message-ID before invoking
mini-inews, and the post then works, so I suppose I could put some 
extra hacks into Pnews to add the missing information..., but it seems 
like the problem lies elsewhere otherwise I think that capability
would already be part of Pnews (or mini-inews).

(We're running nntp.1.5.11 and cnews "performance release of May 1992" ).

Here is a copy of what arrives in /usr/spool/news/in.coming on the
news server after invoking the mini-inews on the remote client:

>Newsgroups: unm.test
>Path: mcclure
>From: mcclure@bandelier.cs.unm.edu (Brent Mcclure)
>Subject: from client
>Sender: @
>Organization: Computer Science Department, University of New Mexico
>Distribution: unm
>Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:03:36 GMT
>
>test post. 

It appears that when posting from the news server that the
Message-ID is created when $NEWSBIN/inject/defaults is invoked
by $NEWSBIN/inject/pnews.  However when the inews 
script is invoked by nntpd ( running as uid = news ),then
$NEWSBIN/inject/defaults returns nothing.  The incomplete
"Sender" field gets created along the way too.

I'd really appreciate some pointers on what is  going wrong.

thanks.

Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: jaf@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (J Anthony Fitzgerald)
Subject: would like to wild card access permissions by IP address
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:46:16 GMT

The nntp access file allows one to wild card client domain names as:

*.unb.ca  read  post

or specify individual hosts by IP address.  It does not, however, allow
one to wild card on IP address.  I would like to be able to code:

131.202.* read post

as well.  More and more of my clients are using trumpet on PCs and the
administrators of some departments do not feel inclined to register all
the PCs in the domain name server and I don't feel inclined to make an
access entry for every PC.  So far I have been telling people that if
they want to use trumpet then their PC must be registered in DNS but some
people can be quite persistent.

I have said that if I can get some spare time ;-) I'd look into the source
and see how difficult it would be to provide wildcarding on IP addresses.
Before I do so, I would like to get answers to a few questions:

1.  Is this an inherently bad idea?  I've given it some thought and can't
    see any serious problems.

2.  Is there any plan to add this feature to a future version of nntp anyway?

3.  What is the most current version of nntp?  I saw reference in this group
    to a 1.6.11 version, however, a number of ftp sites still seem to be
    carrying 1.5.11 which is the version I have installed.

Thank you for reading this far.
-- 
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Fredericton, NB,  CANADA,  E3B 5A3
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: would like to wild card access permissions by IP address
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 00:23:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.124616.25570@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> jaf@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (J Anthony Fitzgerald) writes:
>as well.  More and more of my clients are using trumpet on PCs and the
>administrators of some departments do not feel inclined to register all
>the PCs in the domain name server and I don't feel inclined to make an
>access entry for every PC.  So far I have been telling people that if
>they want to use trumpet then their PC must be registered in DNS but some
>people can be quite persistent.

This is a good policy.  Stick with it.  Giving unnamed computers posting
privileges to Usenet is a Bad Thing.  How are people supposed to reply?
How are we supposed to know who/where this article is coming from?

--Dave
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From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: (NNTP cache and) Re: LIST vs GROUP -- inconsistant?
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:36:39 GMT
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC

In article <1992Aug16.011040.18696@unixland.natick.ma.us> cramer@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Cramer) writes:
> which would indicate that for 'some.group', the server has
> articles 1 through 1703.  However, when I send the GROUP command,
> the server replies:

> 211 3 1701 1703 some.group

> I will assume (without really knowing!) that the LIST information
> comes out of the 'active' file and the GROUP information comes 
> out of a peek at the appropriate spool directory.  The question
> however, is why does the information differ?  

The site isn't running "upact", which updates the active file with the "first
message" info. Ask Henry Spencer why expire doesn't do this (probably because
he got some incredible speedup from the separation of duties, but I don't know
for sure).

I ran into this problem because we have some users using "vnews" with NNTP,
and it gets seriously slow when it hits a group with several thousand missing
articles. trn is much less disturbed.

Speaking of NNTP, the synchronous nature of it makes it kind of slow. I'd
like to set up an "nntp cache" that works like this: the local reader would
use NNTP to talk to the cache, and the cache would be on the same machine
and would talk NNTP to the real server.

	Reader requests some messages.
	NNTP cache reads the message, if it's not already here, and returns
		it to the reader.
	NNTP cache reads ahead for the next message.

It could probably do the same for groups. Has anyone done this? I've never
written much TCP code, and I'd rather not reinvent this wheel if I don't
have to.
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From: cs@Germany.EU.net (Chris Schmidt)
Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
Subject: Re: Strange Inews problem (help :)
Date: 14 Aug 1992 13:00:21 GMT
Organization: EUnet Backbone, Dortmund, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: walhalla.germany.eu.net

In article <65942@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt5870c@prism.gatech.EDU (Noah White) writes:
> 
>     I am having problems getting my new feed up and it seems to be stemming
> from NNTP's Inews and CNews. The news host is cae.cad.gatech.edu, when I 
> telnet cae nntp from a machine with posting privilages I get the following:
> 
> 441 NOTE: This machine does not have permission to post articles.      Please don't waste your time trying.

The answer to your problem is very simple ...

There are two different versions of the inews-program. The first version
distributed with your news-software (CNews) is able to process articles.
The second version distributed with NNTP is only able to open a connection
to a news-server to post the article via NNTP.

So for that reason you should use the CNews-inews on your server and the
mini-inews (NNTP) on your client.

What you've done is you used the NNTP-inews on your server also and here is
what happens if you post an article :

machine A : news-server
machine B : client

You telnet from B to A Port 119 and you have permission to post because
B is included in A's nntp_access file.
The nntpd on A calls inews (the wrong one) and this inews wants to send out
this article via NNTP. It connects to (probably) localhost (A) port 119
and gets a 'no permission to post' because localhost is not included in
the nntp_access file on A.

So what you have to do is install the right inews (from CNews) on your server
so that nntpd is able to execute it and your all set ...

I'm not sure if my view of things is right because I don't have enough 
information to be absolutely sure but according what happens this is
exactly the problem ...

	Chris 
                             
            EUnet-Support-Infoserver  +   EUnet-Support-News 
     Universitaet Dortmund, IRB, Postfach 500 500, D-4600 Dortmund 50
                   cs@Germany.EU.net (Chris Schmidt)
                        Tel. : +49 231 755 2444

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Newsgroups: news.software.nntp
From: rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz)
Subject: Re: would like to wild card access permissions by IP address
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:29:04 GMT

The access file for INN's newsreader server lets you say things like
put shell-style wildcards based on both hostname or IP address, so
you can do things like:
	*.uu.net:read post:name:password
	127.*:read:::
	128.89.2[567].*:read post::