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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:25:16 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Gilbert's Entertainment Question
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On Fri, 8 Jan 1993, Ruth M. Hanschka wrote:

> something else?
> [who needs Playgirl when we've got Words-l?]

Playgirl? Playgirl is for cowards! Karsten, I hear them playing your music.

-abh
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:41:03 -0500
From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@RA.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Famous Horses
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> From: droby@NOVA.TCS.TUFTS.EDU
>
> > >Then of course there are Don Quixote and Sancho Panza. But
> > >they didn't quite it to the old west, did they?
> >
> >         When they were in Newton MA a few years back, Quixote's horse
> > was named Don Roby.

And from Peter Montgomery:
>
> He must be looking through Roseante colored glasses, if he thinks
> MA is part of the Old West.

But, Peter, that you'll have to admit that MA is certainly far west of Spain.

Joan
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:03:00 MST
From:         BZ <TSBZALESKI@CC.WEBER.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Betty's Science/Nature Question
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>"What number is represented in Morse code by five dots?"

Groan!  The only two letters I know any more are s and o.  S is three dots.
What number?
Wild guess - How about 5?

bz
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:55:35 +1000
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Mka's Geography Question
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

>>"What's the world's deepest land gorge?"
>
>This is the typical TP question that penalizes people who know more than the
>folks who put the game together.
>
>There are three claimants, I believe:
>     Colca Canyon in Peru
>     Kali Gandhaki River Gorge in Nepal
>     Hell's Canyon right here in merry old NA.
>
>I'll go with Kali Gandhaki River Gorge, since I've seen it with my own baby
>blues, and protest any answer the card gives to the contrary.
>
>Lit next please
>
>-K
>
>-Mka

I can't find any data on the Kali Gandhaki River Gorge, so I'll need to know
how deep it is before I'll go against what it says on the card and pay that
one.

Carolyn
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: abh has perfect moment
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:15:55 GMT

In article <9301041658.AA10667@Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU> Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU> writes:

>Thanks for the information, Joan.  Less than a week away - how are your nerves,
>Rita?  How did you resolve the last name dilemma?

	Um, I'm a basket case, but thanks for asking, Rashmi.  :).
We're both keeping our maiden names.




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Rita Rouvalis                                Electronic Frontier Foundation
rita@eff.org                                                    eff@eff.org
CIS:70007,5621                                                (617)864-0665
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:06:46 EST
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Round 2 about to begin
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              6 Jan 1993 21:52:10 +1100 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

I'll take Geography.

Evelyn
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:49:07 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Word search

Did anyone make a stab at this?  Is there such a word?      --brad


>>Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:37:43 EST
>>Reply-To:     Discussions about Literature <LITERARY@UCF1VM.BITNET>
>>From:         Graham Wolff Christian <GRAHAM@HARVARDA.BITNET>
>>
>>Apropos of nothing, I have lost a highly useful word and thought that some
>>LITERARY-netter might have it. The word in question is a noun which describes
>>someone who is forever contrasting his present circumstances unfavorably with
>>his past circumstances, particularly in reference to place, e.g., "In Venice
>>/Sioux Falls/Bangkok, it would be warmer now...In Venice, this would cost half
>>as much...In Venice, everyone dresses so much more fashionably..." The word
>>*might* in truth be a short phrase;*might* be in another language; it is not
>>any of the following: chauvinist, parochialist, nationalist,
>nostalgist(better,
>>of course, for longing for past time than past place). Any nominees?
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:06:22 +1100
From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Gilbert's Art/Literature Question
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

>I'm so excited that I finally *got* one that all I can think of
>as Dennis the Menace's dog is
>==============================================::
>                                              ::
>                                              ::
>                                              \/
>.
>                                             SPOT
>.
>Obviously I have missed this one, but if I am by some outside
>chance, correct, I will ask for
>.
>HISTORY
>--ggs

I wished he'd been called 'Rough Spot' then I could have given it to you...
the dog's name was RUFF. You're doing better than me though, so I wouldn't
fret about it too much.

Carolyn
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:25:01 CST
From:         Eric Nielsen <GE2516@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU>
Subject:      IBM Sound Cards (FYI)
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

A new list has been started that deals specifically with sound cards for the
IBM PC.  I'm not sure what the traffic on the list is like, since I have
only recently subscribed.  But it might be helpful to direct people with
inquiries about those sorts of things to that list.  Here is an excerpt
from the welcome message for IBMSND-L:
=========================================================================

  Welcome to the IBM Sound Mailing List!  This mailing list exists to provide a
forum for  discussing the various  Sound Cards  and systems for  IBM compatible
computers. Reviews, product announcements,  and programming information are all
encouraged, as well as general discussion.
=========================================================================
To subscribe, send a message to
LISTSERV@BROWNVM.BITNET (or LISTSERV@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU)

with the command
SUBSCRIBE IBMSND-L <Your Full Name>

as the first line following the subject line.  Hope this helps someone!

    Eric Nielsen                              GE2516@siucvmb.siu.edu
University Electronic                      Southern Illinois University
   Communications                                 at Carbondale
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:50:48 EST
From:         The Radio Gnome <V2002A@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Don Buchla

Hi,

     Did/does Don Buchla teach emusic/composition?  I remember Suzanne Ciani
recalling in an interview that Don Buchla told her that women have no place
in electronic music.
     He has several releases out including "How Much Better if Plymouth Rock
Had Landed on the Pilgrims" with David Rosenbloom.

                         Andy Wing
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:39:36 EST
From:         Jonathan <JFOOTE@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: -- AES-EBU specs --

>From:         Andrea TONI <andrea@SIHP03.SI.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
>
>Hi,
>Is it possible to get somewhere (ftp sites or else !!) papers
>describing in technical details the digital interface AES-EBU ??
>And more .. what's the format of the digital output on commercial CD players ?
>Any suggestion or help is highly appreciated !

Here's the canonical reference:

Audio Engineering Society, ``AES Recommended Practice for Digital
Audio Engineering --- Serial Transmission Format for Linearly
Represented Digital Audio Data,'' AES3-1985 (ANSI S4.40-1985),
J. Aud. Eng. Soc., Vol. 33, No. 12, December 1985

BUT... Trust me. You don't want to play with the AES-EBU signal itself.
What you want is an encoder-decoder chip sets that converts it to or from
a useful serial format with the necessary clocks. Check out the
Yamaha YM3436 and YM3437 chips (Call Yamaha 800-543-7454 for spec sheets).


  Cheers,


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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:20:32 PST
From:         metlay <metlay@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: Looking for System Recommendations
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              at Jan 10, 93 2:58 am

>I'm sure this sort of question has been asked here before; but
>I'm new to this list so please excuse me....

Gear questions are normally handled on SYNTH-L, but applications
questions are OK here.

>A friend of mine is a pianist interested in experimenting
>with electronic music. He has about $3,000 to spend for a
>complete system (computer, software, keyboard, interface
>boards, etc.). Does anyone have any recommendations on what
>he should/should not purchase?

Oboy. I could spend his $3000 for him easily in a number of
different ways, but that's not the point. What precisely
does he want to do, and how much time does he want to devote
to it? I design Emusic setups for people all the time, so
much so that my wife thinks I should charge a consulting fee
for it, but I normally have much more data to go on. You
or your friend should contact me via email and we can hammer
out more details.

>And since I'm asking novice questions, is there a faq for
>this list?

Not yet.


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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:03:00 CST
From:         LCC90039@ACUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      UNSUB EMUSIC

PLEASE UNSUB ME.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:29:06 -0500
From:         "Joseph D. McMahon" <xrjdm@CALVIN.GSFC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      A naive, pre-MIDI question
Comments: To: Electronic Music Discussion List <emusic-l@auvm.american.edu>

Mmm, well, you have to understand that question is sort of like asking,
"I have some free time, what should I do with it?"

One would need to know a lot more, such as, have you much experience playing
music? Do you intend this to be part of a studio-to-be? Is this just for fun,
or do you want to make professional-level music?

 --- Joe M.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:30:02 BDB
From:         Flavio Bressan da Luz <87141167@BRUFSC.BITNET>
Subject:      SB pro/Computers/MIDI possibilities

Hello Fellows,

     I have a friend that was in this same situation few months ago.
He has a 486 clone running at 33 MHz and a Yamaha MIDI portatone.
     Then, he call me to help him. I have knowledge in MIDI and
computers connections, but, at that age, I don't knew anything about
SB pro. We went to another friend that has the device, and I read
the little manual. We toy a lot with the thing.

     My impressions:

. MIDI: Have the basic implementation to work. We still not test contro-
llers and another powerful things.

. TIMBRE: As you know, SB pro is GENERAL MIDI, what only means that
the sequence of the patches is standartized. The patches are the same
of the Roland MT32 sound module, but, there are some sounds that are
not like the originals. Example: The CHOIRAHHS sound not remember the
original. I think that is a trick to save memory. The overall quality
is so so. If you not heard the sounds, hear it. However, when you
use the sounds in a good arrangement, the deffects not appears.

. FM synth: I still not test.

. Sampling capabilities: Good. You have many sampling frequences to
choose (this is related with the sound quality). You can use the sampled
sounds in customized programs and others programs that use the .voc or
 .wav sound file standard.


    Together with SB pro, there is a program called SEQUENCER PLUS,
from Voyetra. Is a easy to use sequencer, with 40+ tracks, graphic
note editing and many other features. Is a good start.

     Also with the package, is the MIDI KIT, that is the MIDI plug.
One side is atached in the SB joystick port, and the other side are
the MIDI IN and OUT plugs. No more hardware to get the system working.

     Now, about future expansion, this will depend if SB pro is full
compatible with Roland MPU401 MIDI interface. If yes, no problem.
If no, you will depend of drivers to get power software running your
SB pro. My friend is newcomer to MIDI world too, and, for while,
the system is working very well for him needs. I believe that
SB pro will not have problems to be drived by power software, because
Creative Labs intend to turn SB pro the stardard for multimedia
applications, then SB pro need to be full MIDI compatible with
the MPU.

Hope this helps,
Flavio

P.s.: Please, don't send mail in this topic to EMUSIC-L. The right
place of this kind of questions is SYNTH-L@AUVM , Ok?
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From:         Andrea TONI <andrea@SIHP03.SI.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
Subject:      -- AES-EBU specs --
Comments: To: SYNTH-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU, EMUSIC-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

Hi,
Is it possible to get somewhere (ftp sites or else !!) papers
describing in technical details the digital interface AES-EBU ??
And more .. what's the format of the digital output on commercial CD players ?
Any suggestion or help is highly appreciated !

Ciao,
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:31:00 EST
From:         ROTHBART@ITHACA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: No sight in sounds (fwd)

We've had some success here at Ithaca College in the Electroacoustic Music
studios using Voice Navigator hardware and software for one of my students who
is blind.  It comes with a series of commands for Performer and is voice
activated.  Since we do virtually (sic) all our work from the Mac screen, this
program seems to help my student a lot, although inevitably a sighted person
needs to be nearby.  If you want, I can put you in touch with Mark so you guys
can compare notes.  Mak has had great success on our Memorymoogs and especially
the Synclavier, which we labelled with Braille.  Peter Rothbart , Dir, EMS,
Ithaca College, 607-274-3171.
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From: pgardner@crc.ac.uk (Phil Gardner)
Subject: Re:      Re: No sight in sounds (fwd)
Reply-To: pgardner@crc.ac.uk (Phil Gardner)
Organization: MRC, UK
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:34:17 GMT

Out of interest, I have a blind friend who manages to operate and play:

	1) Yamaha TX7
	2) Korg DW8000
	3) Roland U20
	4) Roland MT32
	5) Roland MKS20
	6) Roland MC500
	7) Boss 8-channel mixer
	8) Computer with a Braille I/O device.

Membrane switches are of no use to her...

Also, the so-called 'Alpha-dial' knob is a bit of a problem on the MC500.  To use this, she has had a sighted friend stick blobs of 'Blu-Tack' at equidistant positions round the knob.

She also needs a sighted friend to plug-in audio and MIDI leads.

Generally, I marvel at her ability to remember how many button presses are necessary to select/edit a sound.
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From:         Leigh Smith <leigh@PSYCHOK.DIALIX.OZ.AU>
Subject:      MIDI on SGIs
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L mailling list <emusic-l@american.edu>

Hi readers,

I'm looking at getting some MIDI I/O up on a Silicon Graphics Indigo. Am I
right in assuming a Mac MIDI interface will work? I believe the Indigo is
using RS-232, rather RS-422. Can anyone share any gems of wisdom in this
regard? We have the Media kit, it is just the decision of the MIDI hardware
which needs to be finalised.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:50:53 EST
From:         Michael A Squillace <squillac@STUDENT.MSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Don Buchla
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@AMERICAN.EDU
              Jan 6, 93 4:18 pm

Thanks for the info folks...Now, how do I get hold of this fellow?  He sounds
intriguing and, perhaps, can work with me on some of these matters.

Mike
> >
>Question:  Who is Don Buchka and what's a "Braille Thunder?" >
> Mike S.,
>         I think you Don Buchla.  He's a synthesizer designer who has tried
> several different controllers other than the traditional keyboard.  Touch pads
,
> different key layouts, etc..  I haven't kept up with his latest designs, but
> they're usually pretty far reaching custom machines for university and experi-

> mental music studios.
>
> Bob
> DEPIN@TARGET.COM
>
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From:         metlay <metlay@NETCOM.COM>
Subject:      Re: No sight in sounds (fwd)
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              Squillace" at Jan 6, 93 3:46 pm

>First, how do you folks "lift" passages from previous letters in order to
>guide conversation?  Please bare with me in my indirect references to pieces
>of previously written stuff..

Many mail programs do this as a feature; say you want to reply or forward
mail, and it includes the text, usually marked in the margins to differentiate
it from what you're adding.

>Question:  Who is Don Buchka and what's a "Braille Thunder?"

That's bee you see aytch ell ay, beeyooklah. (I hope your Amiga handled
that okay-- mine seemed to). Don is one of the grand old men of the synth
world, he builds strange controllers that use touch pads and pressure
sensors rather than conventional keys and controls. The Thunder is his
latest beast, a MIDI controller whose touch pads can be configured to
send many different kinds of data. He doesn't make one with a Braille
display, but building one for you custom would be the sort of thing he
might consider a worthy challenge.

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From:         Leigh Smith <leigh@PSYCHOK.DIALIX.OZ.AU>
Subject:      "Elements of Computer Music" in Australia = $$$!
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Hi all,

I've just been reliably informed that "Elements of Computer Music" by F.R.
Moore is A$84.95 by Prentice Hall Australia! Considering the U.S. Price is
US$38.00, that is one hell of a mark up! Has anyone else in Australia got
the book cheaper direct from the States? I tried but Prentice Hall in Newark
wouldn't help. Anyone in the U.S. kind enough to confirm the price and/or
sell me a copy at less than the daylight robbery prices of Australia? BTW
is this an isolated case or are Australian book retailers in general
ripping us off? Sounds like good grounds for complaint to the Prices
Survelliance Authority.
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From:         gtd1@NIOBBS1.EM.CDC.GOV
Subject:      A niave, elementary pre-MIDI question...
Comments: To: EMUSIC-L@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

I have a electronic keyboard (with a MIDI port) and a computer (a clone,
I like running under Windows)

I am thinking of buying a SoundBlaster Pro (the one about $180-200)
Will I be able to connect them (will I need any more hardware?)
What would I be able to do with the setup?
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