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From: gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Re: List wars
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
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On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:07:52 -0400, "Agnes Kruchio" <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
 wrote:
> I really don't know if it's a good idea - to start a war, I mean.

I don't think we were really going to you know.  We make these jokes
pretty regularly.

> I would think the report is being prepared out there somewhere, and
> a listwar of the sort you propose would just support the administrative
> types who see these nets as an untapped potential source of $$$$$$.
> You guys can do what you like, but you might just end up contributing to the
> demise of the free lists - and mess it up for other people, too.

IMMINENT DEATH OF USENET PREDICTED.

Don't worry, Agnes; it won't happen.  This thing is bigger than both of us.

G
(Third attempt to post this - I have a sick pizzabox...)
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:53:00 EST
From:         CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject: Re: Wait up!

Greetings,

When I say, "Wait up," I mean "Don't go to bed before I get there."  If
I'm walking down the street and I see a friend walking in the same direction
a block ahead, I say, "What the hell am I doing walking?  Where's the car?
Somebody wake me up from this nightmare."

Marty
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:05:00 PST
From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      client/server question

I just installed a medical tracking system for an eye surgeon. Insurance,
electronic claims, stuff like that.

Well, the software they bought is client/server based.  The server is a ci
and the only client is an LC II and they're conneced over phone net.

This got me to wondering about client/server based applications.  How does the
client know that the server exists (i.e. how does it poll appletalk to find out
if a server is out there).  Or, conversely, does the server send signals across
appletalk that the client then receives, letting the client know a server
exists?

This is not a psuedo-client/server, where the client actually has to mount an
appleshare server and volume on its desktop.  The server machine has actually
got be running the server software before the client will recognize that a
server, and the data, exists.

Jist wundrin.

Chris
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Internet outage
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:07:18 GMT
Organization: Karsten's Bit Bucket
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Turning off an electrical device is generally not sufficient to
prevent damage in the case of a lightening strike to the power source;
unplugging it would be much safer.

In theory lightning strikes to phone lines should be much less likely
to cause damage since the phone wires are much smaller and can't
carry much current before melting.  In practice enough juice can get
through before the wire melts to present a problem.  As long as you
are unplugging your power connections you might as well yank the phone
cord, too.

"Don Moore wrote:
> ...  Sounded halfway reasonable, as gold is an excellent
> conductor of electricity...just glad I wasn't paying the bill!

Silver is actually a better conductor of electricity than gold.
Gold's primary advantage is that it doesn't corrode as easily.

--karsten

"My computer is unplugged only when it is being moved."
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:04:58 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Comments on this phrase

>I was wondering about the phrase "...and that's a whole nother story".
>That's certainly how I would say it, but nother isn't in the dictionary,
>and 'nother for another doesn't fit.

It's the only example that I know of tmesis in English.

-Mka
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:10:00 EST
From:         CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Re: Music Junkie

Greetings,

Thank you, Brad.  If I may: Read Words-l and set nomail.

Marty
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:20:27 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Comments on this phrase

>Thanks Ausbrook for the new word in my vocabulary.  I'll never forget it

Your faithful servant
-Mka
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:22:41 EDT
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Comments:     Originally-From: Karen Kay <LL23@NEMOMUS.BITNET>
From:         GUBERT@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: gonadological oppression

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
A man who calls himself a feminist--it's like me going around saying
I'm Japanese.  .....
------------------------------------------------------------------------
no it isn't -- not if the male accepts and has internalized the values
associated with the belief system some label as 'feminism'.  And it may
not be impossible to have assimilated enough Japanese culture to become
Japanese (perhaps even citizen, but not the 'racial component').  Why do
you folks continue to use bad analogies  -  comparing bananas and
straberries?

JAG
^bwp
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:25:58 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: List wars

>Or to Entropy Warrior. As I recall, he mentioned Words-L on Literary
>first, when someone complained about the lack of discussion on that list.
>He even described some of the frequent posters.  -abh, get on it....
>Doris

Hey--I said nothing but *good* things about Words-L and its
denizens--and to someone who seemed bummed that there was nothing
in the mailbox this morning.  I can get the exact post if you
want it.  EXCUUUUUSE ME.  I promise *not* to say anything good
about any of you or the list ever again.

-Mka
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 22:35:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: WHTMIQR13
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> Good try, Giggles, but Natalie said that the dogs in the Yucatan look
> more like my feist half than my beagle half.  I don't think you saw them
> at all!  I think you were too lost in humanoid fantasies to think about
> the beautiful creatures!
>                         o/.\____/
>          -- Bernard      \______|
>                          / \  / \
>             annoyed because Natalie was gone all afternoon to a Chigger
>             Fest and didn't take me...

It's la pura verdad.  I seen them from the plane, going woof woof
where's my food?
--ggs
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:47:01 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      WHY WAS GIGGLES IN THE BUSHES?? (was Re: Clambake Pictures)
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> none of them....   then I see, in one group photo, by the fire,
> there is -ggs in the most surprising place!!!!
> Can you find me, Natalie dear?  Look again....  there I am....
> ah hah!!!

Oh dear.  You give me this fascinating assignment just as I need to
log off, eat breakfast, and get ready to go to campus.  Are you talking
about relatively large group at fire?  ... HEY!!!!  I'm glad I looked!!!
But whatever were you doing by yourself in the bushes to the far left of
the picture??????  I'm in that picture, btw -- I'm the person as far
away from you as is possible (or rather as is pictured) -- sitting on
rock with computer in lap.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

P.S. I think you meant Jim and fiancee, not Don and fiancee.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:30:12 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: List wars

>Don't send the mail to LITERARY, send it to Tim.  I know this guy, and
>that message is typical of his style.  Why make the whole list suffer?
>
>Evelyn Duncan

The list isn't/ won't suffer, Evelyn.  It's dying or dead.  A
carcass waiting to be infused by the heavenly host.

-Mka
Entre nous-Entre pee
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:37:09 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Well, really...
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> Chapter 5: Was Chris upset at being called an asshole?

When was Chris called an asshole??
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:03:50 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: soapbox/bullshit
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> for your computer crime work, by the way, or did that come after?
> G
> such a provocative question!
> JAG

Graham, as I have reason to know first-hand, is a provocative guy.:)

Karen
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:58:58 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gender
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              17 Aug 1992 11:11:28 CDT from <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>

On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:11:28 CDT Raving Misanthrope said:
>Not the bimbo herself, the show. She gets into more weirdness than all the

   oh, now i feel a bit better.   yeah she does get the REAL weird
ones that the others don't seem to touch.   of course i have trouble with
two things....one, ever seeing them (and not bothering to tape them)....
two, that they get SO weird that I lose interest.

>other daytime "real-life" shows combined. My mother is convinced SJR will be
>one of the downfalls of western civilization, so I *know* she's on to something
   that argument in favor of it I can't possibly disagree with.

dan
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:53:02 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
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From:         GUBERT@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      RE: fuzzy headed distortionn

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:40:47 CDT, "Anne BWP Harwell" <aharwell@panam1.panam.edu>
 wrote:
> Thank you sisterwoman, thank you very much indeed. Didn't ANYONE catch that
>  gubert is
> using another logical fallacy, the ad hominem attack, in labeling me a liberal
>  and

No, I think calling you a liberal was a deliberate insult intended to
provoke you :)

G
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precisely.  but she was not called a liberal.

JAG
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Wait up!

>I would use "wait" and "wait up" in different circumstances.  For some reason,
>the simple "Wait" sounds more like an order while "Wait up" is a request.  At
>least, I think that's how I would use them.

This discussion reminds me of one of my favorite Armyisms: Listen
up!  I don't think it was a request.

Michael E. Macmillan
(macmillm@ewc)
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:36:34 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tushar's whereabouts
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              Gail Lester <gaill@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>

On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:26:07 CDT Michael J Graven said:
>
>"I am Words-L.  Please send mail to words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu."
>
   Sounds  like part of the design for TshirtII, soon to be in your
mailbox.  Right, oh Queens of Providence?

   Actually, I hope to die in my words-l tshirt....or else naked....

dan
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:51:49 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      The Doors
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> What do the rest of you (women) think of the Doors ?

I like The Doors too--they played an important role in my college
career.  (I flunked out, remember.:) )  Where did you get this
idea that women don't like this music?  Jim Morrison was probably
total scum, but hey...you can't have everything.

Karen
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:25:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Pronunciation Lesson 1
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For your information, since I know you are wondering,
Quintana Roo is pronounced thus:
KEEN-TAH-NAH  ROW, and, incidentally, since I know you are
wondering, it is named for a Spanish early 19th century poet,
and, incidentally, since I know you are wondering, it is the
name of the Mexican state in which Cancun is located.
...<So there>
--ggs (getting into the teaching mode for next Wednesday...)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:40:38 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject: Re: Wait up!

>This discussion reminds me of one of my favorite Armyisms: Listen
>up!  I don't think it was a request.
>Michael E. Macmillan

    You're right.  Not a request.  A demand for immediate attention,
    but polite in its own way.

    brad
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:00:52 -0500
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Doors
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Jim Morrison wasn't *total* scum -- he had his redeeming qualities.
Unfortunately for him, they weren't enough.

--Susan
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:53:34 EDT
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Soapbox/Bullshit
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 04:25:42 GMT, "Jim Thomas" <jthomas@WELL.SF.CA.US> wrote:
> Jim (you mean graham actually *read the vita**??) Thomas

Sure, it was most enjoyable.  Was the time you spent editing a hackers
magazine done as a way of infiltrating hackers in order to study them
for your computer crime work, by the way, or did that come after?

G
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 08:36:56 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      re: good evening to you all
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> >who sometimes feels like Weezie in Steel Magnolias.
> Gee, hope that makes it out on video soon so i can see it.
> dan

Was this supposed to be sarcasm?  It's been out on video for a
kazillion years.

Karen
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:30:27 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 0/1
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> > But you *did* get it.  Intelligent software or a nice person ?
>
> Our postmaster.  As far as I know, she's a human being.

That reminds me of the good old days when we were running bitnet on a
Sperry Univac 1100 with home-made software -- that was better than the
store-bought software other places were using.  Because Bernard and I
had to share a social security number, I had to send a message to our
kind postmaster when Bernard wanted to send bitnet mail.  Kind postmaster
would flip a magic switch that turned maynor@msstate's account into
bernard@msstate.  Bernard would send mail.  Then kind postmaster would
flip switch back to maynor@msstate.  If mail arrived later for bernard@
msstate, I assume that it went to some kind of unknown-user pile first,
but shortly thereafter it would be forwarded to maynor@msstate, usually
with subject header saying "more mail for the beagle."  Funny that kind
postmaster claims to hate certain beagles...

Hey -- ain't it neat that I've joined the old-timers in that I can talk
about "the good old days."  I've forgotten my bc life.  But five years
ago I had no idea how to turn a computer on.  I had never even been
within a yard of one.  It's also hard to believe that it took me three
months to add a modem.  I bought my computer in December '87 and didn't
get the modem until March '88.  That's when real love consumed me.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

P.S.  I just remembered the point of this note.  As wonderful as Ra may
be, it is rudely impersonal.  It spits mis-addressed mail back into
cyberspace without a second thought.
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:31:00 EST
From:         "Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366"
 <185422285%VUVAXCOM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      I am off for a days.

I will be setting nomail from now (8/13/92) 02:20:40 Eastern time
until 8/26/92. I have arranged to read the list throught usenet
so I expect I won't miss any messages. I also am going to Paris. I am
off to visit my dad and step-mom. I have not seen them in about
6 months so it should be interesting. Thank god for frequent flier
miles. The trip is free.



Later and peace,


Alec Plotkin

P.S. I am most sorry to miss the Republican convention but, trips happen.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:57:37 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: 0/1
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Posted on 19 Aug 1992 at 23:41:17 by Tony Harminc
> >It's funny this was brought up today--I just got mail misaddressed
> >to me as 1123 rather than LL23.
> But you *did* get it.  Intelligent software or a nice person ?

Our postmaster.  As far as I know, she's a human being.
I think my name was somewhere in the text, too.

Karen
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:55:16 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: gonadological oppression
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> Perhaps somebody could explain why "identification" with a group
> is necessary or even desireable as a prereq for teaching a class.

Good question, Jim.  Why do schools prefer to hire native speakers
of foreign languages?  It's same thing, really.  Like I said,
WMSTD-L hashed this out all last year.

Karen
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 07:46:15 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Freshpeople
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Greetings from English Department Computer Lab, where I have NO questions
to answer at the moment.  It's fascinating to see the change with every
passing year.  The first year I used a computer lab with freshpeople, only
one in the whole class had ever touched a computer before; the next couple
of years, it moved from about 1/4 of the class to 1/2 or more of class;
this year 100% knew how to use computers.  Today is basically useless
since its main purpose was teaching them how to write papers on WP.
They're sitting here writing practice documents with no problem.  Guess
I need to kick them out soon, tho, so I can go to my 8:00 class.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:14:00 GMT
From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      re: chicken shit
Comments: To: mbx <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>

>I've been thinking of other animal-related expressions whose
>meaning risks becoming unanchored in our experience: cock-eyed,
>pigeon toed, hen pecked, stampeded, bridled, rat-eaten, flea-bitten,
>rabbit ears, kid gloves, crowed, cowed, buffaloed, up a tree.

How about "running around like a chicken with its head cut off"?
That's always been one of my favorites - it brings back memories of
farm stories my Mom and my aunts tell, including one about a chicken
with its head cut off.

>(The other day I went to the building supply store for chicken
>wire. It's now referred to as _hex netting_.)
>-Rod

You've got to be kidding - chicken wire is no longer chicken wire?
What is this world coming to?  I want to know which politician came
up with "hex netting"?

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:42:34 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: What is this list about?
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              13 Aug 1992 04:19:33 GMT from <jthomas@WELL.SF.CA.US>

On Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:19:33 GMT Jim Thomas said:
>Dan ignorantly ignites:

   Ignites?  Really?   8-)   Methinks it is JIM that has ignited...

>1) You are a N. Ill expatriate and yuppie; ergo, you are an apostate
>   cub fan. You cannot be taken seriously.

    I am NOT a yuppie.   First, I'm too old.  Second, I don't particularly
value ANY of the traditional/stereotypical values.  I have no food processor
or food dryer....or Saab or Volvo....etc etc etc

>2) If you watched that game through the 9th, you are an apostate cub fan.
>   Ergo, you, sour grapes, and you cannot be taken seriously.

    I watched NONE of that game.  I did, however, learn of it from my
poor, demented, perverted daughter....who wasted one of her days off
from work watching it for 5.5 hours (hey, at least she cleaned her room
during it, so I can't complain TOO much).  She IS a Cub fan.  We all have
our crosses to bear.  She got it from my brother-in-law, who has
season tickets, etc, despite growing up in Hyde Park.....pooor sicko.
MY brother has season boxes at Comiskey....and is a proper, decent, rational
human being.

>3) If you could continue watching that game with all those errors, you
>   are, indeed, a *true* die-hard cub fan, and the depravity of your

       Nope....my favorite teams are the Sox, whoever is playing the Cubs,
and the Dodgers, in that order.
   And, YES, the dodgers suck this year.....
   In fact, it is the dodgers who are consuming feces and expiring this year.
   At least they have the <grace> to do so early on, and not give their
ardent fans any of the usual Cubbie false hopes....

dan
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