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From: shell@witch.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Spin Doctors, Mike Formica, and other related nib-nobs
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:08:29 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: witch.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec11.175912.2707@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> HUNT@edit.mndly.umn.edu writes:
> We're all friends here. We all can, I think, agree to disagree. 

I've been thinking this same thought all along.  I'm actually pretty surprised
at the *low* threshold to criticism folks often display here...any post which
demonstrates a mild degree of disagreement with another post is immediately
classified as a flame!  I always thought of a flame as something significantly
worse, a heated and personal attack on the author of another article...
certainly we don't need any of those here.  But, on the other hand, there's
nothing wrong with us expressing our differing points of view, and it doesn't
seem right to alienate someone just because they present a dissenting opinion.

>Please don't kill me, Shelly.

Huh???  I don't understand what you mean by this.
...I have opinions which I express here.  I hope that some people will
agree with me, though I don't expect that everyone will.  I read other
people's views; sometimes I agree, sometimes I don't.  That's the way the
net works.  *NO-ONE* has the power to make any rules here; we just try to
reach a consensus where we can be considerate of each other in what and how
we post so that the net can continue to function.  I like to think of it
as a benevolent anarchy. 

Shelly

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: BGILLESPIE%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: First Concert
Reply-To: BGILLESPIE%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:52:04 GMT

Lets have some phun. Drop a line on the net about your first concert experience
of any kind. Not just Phish. OPC- but you could talk a bout phish, too. Just
drop a line, no comments are even necesary. For instance: The first concert
of any kind that I attended was Culture Club at the old Charlotte Coliseum.
I think it was '83 or '84. Second show: Huey Lewis and the News (Sports
Tour '84) guess who opened??? SRV!!! I was eleven, I hated it. Oh well...
-Bobby
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jsarna@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Tape request (not grovel) Portchester
Organization: Clark University
Date: 15 DEC 92 21:53:22 GMT

i feel kinda guilty seeking tapes amidst all the debating, but...
Does anyone have a copy of the Friday night Port Chester show?
First set, second set, ANY SET...set me up!! (please?)
thanks in advance....

                -jeremy
                JSARNA@VAX.CLARKU.EDU
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From: sirna@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Sirna)
Subject: Re: 4/18/92 questions
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:22:10 GMT

In article <1gri4cINNh5d@phakt.usc.edu> cokin@phakt.usc.edu (Darren Cokin) writes:
>
>I got a copy of 4/18/92 Stanford U. with a bunch of other stuff last week, and
>finally got around to listening to it today.  First of all, why does Trey 
>say "Squirt gun break!" inbetween most of the songs on set II?

Because Gary Herman, a student of both Stanford and Phish, was
shooting people with an oversized squirt gun in an attempt to cool
them off.  i guess Trey really zoned on it.
>

weird stuff about Stanford Setlist deleted...

here's the set list I have.

4-18-92 Wilbur Field, Stanford, CA

I
Wilson
Divided Sky
Guelah papyrus
Poor Heart
Split Open
Esther
Possum
Its Ice
Sparkle
All things Reconsidered
Antelope

II
Glide
Oh kee Pah ->
Suzy Greenberg
Rift
Manteca
Bathtub gin
Manteca
Lizards
Mound
Lllama
TMWSIY-> Alvcenu Malkenu -> TMWSIY
Dinner and a Movie
Harry Hood
Cold as ice jam ->
Honey Love->
Cold as Ice jam
Rocky Top

E: Contact
  Big Black Fury Creatures from mars w/ Cameron mcKinney on Ukele

Anyway as a reward for all of you who read to the bottom of this list.
I've got 1st gen boards of this show and am willing to make tapes for
those without.  So e-mail me after NY and I'll give you my address.

Thanks

Tony

a Kindler gentler Taper  (or is that Tapir?)

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From: David Douglas McCallum <kcjonz@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: More chords to Fee
Reply-To: kcjonz@wam.umd.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:00:28 GMT

Hey, Eric, I got some more chords to Fee for you....
 
The piano solo between verses goes Cm, Bb, Ab, Eb,
Fm7, Cm7, Bb.
 
Also, the key you put it in is the old one that they recorded
it in for Junta and used to play years ago. Nowadays they have dropped
it one half step. This allows the use of open chords [which Trey did,
when I watched him] and is a bit easier on the vocal chords - mine
anyway. I would hope that the full version would make it into the CHORDS file.
 
Thanks for the post...it's good to know that others are trying to
figure out chords for these great tunes. I'm trying to get a grip on
some of the new ones: Maze, NICU, It's Ice, etx.
 
DMcC
 
P.S. The version of Fee from Ian's Farm - 8/27/87 has the piano solo
section going through twice each time...more room for Page to stretch
out =^)
 
P.P.S. About that CHORDS file...who is currently putting it together?
Could I recommend that it take a similar form to the LYRICS file, in
that contradicting versions of lyrics are not all kept in the file,
rather, only the consesus of the correct version makes it? I
mean, the last version I FTP'd still had Bathtub Gin written with
G# and C#s, the correction, and another correction. Hows about
condensing it? Anybody have any feelings on this?
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From: Joseph Cosgrove <Joseph.Cosgrove@f713.n278.z1.fidonet.org>
Subject: PORTCHESTER 
Reply-To: Joseph.Cosgrove@f713.n278.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:12:11 GMT

Now, I'll start off with a story.
I was listening to Phish one day while I was talking to my girlfriend. They
were in the middle of a jam and she asked what is that noise. I responded what
noise? Not knowing she was refering to Phish. She said it sounded like a two
year old was playing around on a piano. I couldn't take I just hung up on
her!!! Well I had to enlighten her with Phish after that so I called her back
up and played the tape through the phone, and she started to get into it! Well
it's not too interesting, but I thought     would bore you with it anyway.
 
Also does anyone out there have the tapes to the Portchester shows Nov. 27-28,
92. Specifically Sat. 28. I have some stuph to trade, not only Phish. I would
be grateful if anyone could help me out. 
 
Contact!
          Joe Cosgrove
--  
Joseph Cosgrove - via FidoNet node 1:107/930
UUCP: ...!rutgers!newport!278!713!Joseph.Cosgrove
ARPA: Joseph.Cosgrove@f713.n278.z1.FIDONET.ORG
From: cokin@phakt.usc.edu (Darren Cokin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: 4/18/92 questions
Date: 17 Dec 1992 19:55:56 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu


I got a copy of 4/18/92 Stanford U. with a bunch of other stuff last week, and
finally got around to listening to it today.  First of all, why does Trey 
say "Squirt gun break!" inbetween most of the songs on set II?

This is the first time I heard the song The Man Who Stepped Into Yesterday.
This appears to be the background music from the opening of the TMWSIY tape.
How come this song isn't listed on that tape?  On my tape the first song
labeled is Lizards.

Avinu Malkenu....  I was raised jewish.  I'm now atheist and havn't been to 
temple in years, but hearing this brought back a weird memory.  I was thinking
'Naw, it couldn't be...'   But then I checked the HPB, and sure enough, it is
one of our old silly prayers.  Man that's a weird tune....

On another one of my tapes (4/16/92) there's a song labeled "Terrapin".  A few
weeks ago there was a tread about terrapin, and someone mentioned it's a 
Syd Barret cover.  I'm not familiar with the original.  Anyway, the basic tune
of this song is played before and after Honey Love on 4/18/92.  But's it's
not labeled.  I think the label should go:
Terrapin...->
Honey Love ->
Terrapin reprise

So should I change it to this, or is that not Terrapin?  Is what I have labled
terrapin just part of Honey Love?  I just want my my tapes to be labeled
correctly.  Thanks.

Please post response, so I only get one.  I'm going home staturday moring,
so any email messages I get after friday afternoon I won't get for 3 weeks.
Hope to see you all at NYE, if my mother was smart enough to get me tix for
chrismas (not likely, damn).  I'm going home to Boston.

                                                                Darren
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: betteb@rpi.edu
Subject: what the...
Reply-To: betteb@rpi.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:06:14 GMT


	*********************************
	* What the heck does IMHO mean? *
	*********************************

							dazed and confused,
							Brian B.
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: toronto
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:10:41 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Dark Mage writes....
>and 1st encore.... Mystery Ship!!!!!!


...which is really "Ride Captain Ride", the only single by the group
Blues Image.  Neat!


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From: Mike Bridgett <X53N@slumus.bitnet>
Subject: Re: Popularity
Reply-To: X53N@slumus.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:58:09 GMT

Just to pose a question about popularity and its effect on the band:

If their popularity was to wane back to even 3 years ago, would they
still feel as if they were accomplishing something.  I'm almost
afraid that a loss of popularity now would disrupt everything.
This doesn't mean I don't want it to happen, but the effects could
be horrible.
                                       my 2 cents,
                                              mike
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From: Scott M Sandler <71271.3721@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re:Language Signals
Reply-To: 71271.3721@compuserve.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:55:10 GMT


A good friend of mine came to the show in Toronto, and I had
previously shown him the language signals which I received from the 
Lyrics file.  He thought that it was a great idea, but like other
opinions that I have recently seen, he was wondering what it must
have felt like for someone who didn't know much about Phish,
to see all these people falling down.  He feels that the whole 
thing would work better if everyone knew about it...

What he has told me he would like to do, is the next show he 
goes to, he would like to photocopy the sheet of signals, and
hand them out, so more people could try to participate.

I agree with the fact that these signals may tend to alienate the
unaware audience member, but I don't agree that it's a manipulation.
I would hardly call a signal which makes people fall down, a thing 
which the band uses to its advantage to get their kicks...
I think that it is intended to be humorous and should be taken that
way.  It's just one more non-musical aspect of Phish which makes them
unique, and different from the rest, it's not just a concert, but a show.

Anyone else have opinions?

And again, any tapers at Toronto, please e-mail me...I'd love a copy!

Scott M Sandler



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From: moorec3@rpi.edu
Subject: Ewe's
Reply-To: moorec3@rpi.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:52:37 GMT

	Hi everyone this is my first posting. Isn't Ewe capitalized in the lyrics?  Isn't that the name of a tribe
of people in Africa. Is this just a misprint? I hope so. Just my 2 cents.
			Can't wait for New Year's,
			Chris
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU
Subject: NEW HAVEN have FOR NYE want
Reply-To: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.Virginia.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:48:19 GMT

A friend (Tobias Gregory) has an extra New Haven ticket (pick a
night) which he would like to trade for a New Year's Eve ticket.
He does not have a registered e-mail account, as is taking exams
so might prefer not to use the phone (besides the fact that this
is cheaper), so send messages to me and I'll relay your name &
phone number to him.  You & he can work out the deets of the
trade, but he'll be staying with me in New Haven, so you could
work it out at our crash pad before or between shows there.

NOTE: Toby could trade an extra for EITHER New Haven night, ad
the other might end up for sale or trade at a later date. (A
second friend is still uncertain about whether he can afford to
go.  Hell. I couldn't afford not to go.)

thanks....


ELLIS OF LEMURIA  email: jeg5s@uva.pcmail.virginia.edu
   snail mail: P.O. Box 3240, Charlottesville, VA 22903
     +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
motto: keep smiling, gliding, and riding that train!!  :-)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: MLAVOIE%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: lyric stuff
Reply-To: MLAVOIE%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:34:22 GMT

for anyone that's interested...

someone posted about trey's lyrics at the end of silent in the morning...
from what i could divine the first part is right

something like

Now that i've dismissed you....,....

but i think the second part is

"Now that you trust in me,
 You've found the voice you want and I am free"

anyone? anyone?

also, while talking about early caverns, i may as well bring up the
other original verse that was dropped, in favor of the "the crowd meanwhile.."
verse
(i missed a couple digests, so sorry if it's been said)

"The brothel wife then took her knife
 And slashed me on the tongue
 I turned the blade back on the bitch
 And dropped her in the dung..."

whatever, right?

Mike
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: ADDST3@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Subject: Grovel Contest
Reply-To: ADDST3@vms.cis.pitt.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:56:53 GMT



        I do not wish to bother anyone with this humble ticket grovel but...
well... this is a special case... you see my best friend Dave is dying...
yes, roughly one year ago, my friend was diagnosed with a rare disease known as
G.L.I.DeS (Guelah-lyric-immuno-defficiency-syndrome).  The average life-span
after diagnosis) of a victim of this disease is five months.  As you can see
my friend is living on borrowed time.  We have been able to sustain him with
regular doses of Phish (delivered through an IV) on an hourly basis. However,
this treatment will not work forever. His condition is deteriorating at an
alarming rate!  Please have pity on a fellow fan and allow him his only chance
for survival: a KICK ASS JAM W/ PHISH IN BOSTON ON NEW YEARS!!!!
please help,
Aaron Dunsay (ADDST3@vms.cis.pitt.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Rich Fromm - 'Whatever you do, take care of your shoes.'  16-Dec-1992 2131" <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: NYE Net Gathering- Any Info- let's do it!
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:31:24 GMT

well, assuming this thing at the Y works out (please send in your money and 
send me mail if you're still interested; after all of this work i don't want 
to get stuck there alone), we could meet there sometime in the afternoon, hang 
out and party for a while, and then head to dinner somewhere as a group

- rich
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: tasteless jokes
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:22:18 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Before we go any further, PLEASE ignore the tasteless "sorority jokes"
post so the Phishnet doesn't succumb to umpteen responses.  This trash isn't
worth anyone's time responding to, let alone reading.  If anything, email the
postmaster of the site, include the original post, and let that site take
its appropriate action.

Please...let's not drag this out beyond uselessness.  Thank you!

OPhishC:  19 daze 'til Springfield.  20 'til NYE!:-)
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From: CTBUZEK@stthomas.edu
Subject: Re: Mike J.
Reply-To: CTBUZEK@stthomas.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:01:27 GMT


Just one case in point to slightly disagree with Mike J.--

After seeing phish here in my home town on Minneapolis (in that northern 
land where I spemd all day thinking of things to type on this here screen) 
I made a request on the .net for a tape of the show.  Sure enough, somebody 
at a school down the road responded that they had recorded the show.
The jist: not all tapers tour.
 
Anyway, I hope that people will realize that DCC/DAT/FBI/CIA, Dead/Phish, 
Grovel or not to grovel debates should not mask a feeling of comradery with 
everyone during this season (or during any season).
-As Johnny Mathis sings, "May I suggest the secret of Christmas,
                          is not the things you do at Christmas time, 
                          but the Christmas things you do
                          all year through."  
                                              {-8  Peace.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jsarna@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Gamehendge Upgrade
Organization: Clark University
Date: 17 DEC 92 22:34:16 GMT

i was listening to my copy of Gamehendge (Nectar's 1988) and realized how
dreadful the quality was.  Does anyone out there have a reasonable good
copy of this show to trade?  My ears will be forever thankful.   ^
                                                                 y

                -jeremy
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From: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff)
Subject: Re: Lyrics ?
Organization: Institute for the Theoretical Physics
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:47:49 GMT

In article <15DEC92.21504059@vax.clarku.edu> jsarna@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>
>
>I assume you're referring to the line from "My Sweet One"
>"and if your dog or cat ever dies, I'll buy you a ewe"
>A ewe (if I'm not mistaken) is a baby sheep.  It looks very much like a
>regular sheep, only smaller :-)
>

  ewe = female sheep
  lamb = baby sheep 

-- 
--------------------------------------------
Jeff Althoff    jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu
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From: Rob Hodil <ST701616@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Negativity won't Pull You Through
Reply-To: ST701616@brownvm.brown.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:25:30 GMT

What's up with all this negativity about other bands? Are we so insecure in our
 own tastes that we have to diss every other band out there?  These are just my
 two cents as a long-standing Phish phreak new to the net... As being perhaps s
omewhat older than many netters, I remember a time when there were basically no
 touring bands besides the Dead that played any sort of extended free-form impr
ovisation...and whether or not they are as energized or instrumentally proficie
nt as the members of Phish, they did pull jam-oriented risk-taking music (albei
t not as risk-taking as their earlier stuff, which was every bit as inspired as
 current Phish shows...a compliment to both bands) through the black pit of the
 80's.  Remember that 99% of the music being put out on today is worthless pop
junk.  Personally, whether or not I like bands like the Spin Doctors and Blues
Traveler, and even when they don't coincide with my tastes, I am thankful that
there are bands out there that are improvising and taking risks at least occasi
onally, and trying to make real music.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: EVETTC@acad1.csd.unbsj.ca
Subject: Slap my splondula!
Reply-To: EVETTC@acad1.csd.unbsj.ca
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:25:07 GMT



      If I see anymore mental baby puke about groveling naked in the
streets for the possibility to drink Phish spew, I will tell yoda to
eat you all.  Can one not simply zoom past a grovel if need be?  The
way the debate has been going on one would think the world revolved
and depended upon the Oh so hyper intellegent opinions dripping like
exlax.  I mean go save the world or something more relevant.
      Meanwhile at a pop stand an insane vagabond is maturbating, let
us all from the net whish him a merry Christmas and a plate of stir-
fry.

   The choice was
     PHISH ON NYE

         or

     Snowboarding in Banff!  Wahoo spork my honk, and jazz my drip.

     I swear I still remain a devout Phish head, but off to Banff I
go.
     Merry Christmas and happy Hondas to you all.  I love you all and
can't wait to recieve some personal E-mail of happiness or Fuck off.
   Peace from Christian in Canada.

   P.S. I just saw Jimmi Hendrix ridding a plunger!
From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: SCANNING PHOTOS
Date: 12 Dec 1992 04:44:52 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec11.213326.27270@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> williama@kenyon.edu 
writes:
>Hey Shelly,
>          Concering my OFFICIAL DRE PICTURE GROVEL...I've gotten quite
>a few computer people who have emailed me with the idea to scan the
>photos so the entire net can view them. Is this technology possible?
>Is it possible to scan a photo and then send it to the net as a post?

It is certainly possible to digitize a photo, then move the digital file
around using protocols such as FTP.  However, it would not be possible to
post the digital file to the net such that the article would come across
the newsreader software as an actual picture on peoples' screens, or for
that matter as a file that an individual could capture and then display
using their local software for displaying graphics.  Unless I'm mistaken,
files of this type can only be transferred in certain ways; FTP is the
way that I'm familiar with.  FTP is very easy; rather than thinking that
if a file is unavailable except by FTP that you can't get it (if you haven't
learned FTP), my advice (to anyone who hasn't tried it) would be, take ten
minutes and learn how to use FTP; it'll be time well spent.

I would never present myself as an expert on such things, though;  would
any better-informed voices among us care to elaborate?

>didn't someone say we might need permission from the band.

Obviously, I have no authority to speak on behalf of the band or their
management!  However, I can't think of any reason why they would object;
sharing the image as a digital file is no different than taking a picture
and making copies for your friends using the negative, right?  And they
freely allow folks to take pictures...seems like permission to me, especially
since there's no question of anyone making a profit off of this.

Shelly

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: CTBUZEK@stthomas.edu
Subject: Bandwith?
Reply-To: CTBUZEK@stthomas.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:33:06 GMT


One quick curious question:

   WHAT EXACTLY IS BANDWIDTH?
                                 Peace. 
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