From: rayhann@ee.mu.OZ.AU (rayhann chee)
Subject: Re: ******* ASIANS FACE RACE BIAS -an aussie reply-
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:54:19 GMT

In article <detchay.6.711965270@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au> detchay@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (TONY CHAY) writes:
>
>	1.  Asians often stick to themselves, most don't mix with the 
>average Aussie student.  

	True enuf, what would ya do in a strange country where people don't speak
	your language? I would talk & mix with those that do, wouldn't you. Besides
	trouble is most of the Asians studying here tend to be a bit weak in English
	so it is a wee bit hard to converse with Aussies don't ya think?
	*** BTW I have lots of Aussie friends, just pointing out that not all
		people are as lucky as some...


>
>	2.  I get ranckled when I am in an elevator and a group of Asians 
>talk in their own language.  

	You get rankled easily don't you? What about Greeks speaking Greek,
	Italians speaking Italian, Czech's speaking Czech and so forth?
	IT's the same all over the world, I believe that ppl tend to converse in
	their mother tongue with other ppl sharing the same language. Of course
	if I were in Rome, I would do as the Romans do and speak Italian *which
	by the way I do not speak at all*

>
>	3.  Often the only clubs they join at university are Malaysian Law 
>Students, Hong Kong students, etc ,  So further segregating themselves, don'
>t blame the Aussies for getting pissed off at your almost secretive and 
>seperatist behaviour.

	Yah, I supposed Australians overseas don't join Australian clubs eh?
	Besides, most of these clubs are open to anybody who bothers to join.
	No one has a rule stating that only students from that particular country
	or profession *except maybe the law society but they're legal ******** all
	the same* I happen to know that many clubs would welcome Aussies to join.
	Of course we Asians wouldn't join the Aussie clubs like The Liberal and 
	Labour political groups, Chocky and so forth..

>
>	4.  I have witnessed and been involved in many situations where 
>Asians have made it quite clear that all Australians are just Beer swilling 
>non-serious students who are basically dumb.  Here is the Yellow superiorty 
>making the Aussies angry that you come over here and knock us and our 
>culture and our differing work ethic.

	Well its the image most Aussies present to Asians.. I like going to the
	pub with friends *Aussie ones* and have fun. Other asians might just 
	prefer to go Yum Cha.. seee?

>      5.  With THousands of Australian students missing places at 
>universities across australia, and maybe some here not doing the course they 
>really wanted to.  Isn't it understandable that when they see so many Asian 
>students taking up places at university ( and they dont frankly give a 
>bloody stuff about the financial aspects of O/s Students) they'll feel 
>cheated and resentful.

	Yeah, that's true. I reckon most Australians get a pretty raw deal from the
	government. Lack of places etc is due to lack of federal & state funding.
	Overseas students nowadays have to create their own places by paying full
	fees... not many australians care about that aspect and its a pity.

>	Please note that the above points are not exclusive to Asians 
>students nor does it apply to all asian students.  But from my 2 years at 
>Uni it seems to be a fairly widespread trend.  

	It is prevalent, all of the above within universities... I do really 
	hope that one day all of us and get royally pissed in a friendly manner
	in a pub somewhere.... *gimme that fosters...:)*


	Gee, lecturers treat as as sub-humans.. that might explain why I almost
	was run over by one of themmmm *just joking*

	rayhann
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