From: scott@phlpa.pha.pa.us (Scott Scheingold)
Newsgroups: news.admin,alt.censorship,alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk
Subject: Re: "Computers graphic when it comes to porn"
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:24:00 GMT
Organization: Ians' Playhouse

In article <1992Jul23.230442.903@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.122034.28066@phlpa.pha.pa.us>
>scott@phlpa.pha.pa.us (Scott Scheingold) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.175643.15218@cs.sfu.ca> jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews) writes:
>>>In article <1992Jul21.221517.8106@phlpa.pha.pa.us> scott@phlpa.pha.pa.us (Scott Scheingold) writes:
>
>>Ok. Would you let your seven year old read it?
>
>I think Scott accidentally asked the right question.
>
>It is up to _me_ whether _I_ let _my_ seven-year-old read it.  It is
>not up to Scott, nor Congress, nor the local police department.

I agree with this. I feel with the right guide through sex a child can be
helped to understand. I have always felt that the parent SHOULD be the one
to decide when a child is ready to understand sex. I do not belive in
beating around the bush and making up things about sex. One should be open
and honest. Sex is healthy and what one likes is ones own buisness. No one
should judge  what one likes just because the other thinks it is weird or
perverted. I have always felt that those who FORCE their ideas on others are
wrong. 


>
>> Can a seven year old get into
>>an adult book store? Do you call not letting a seven year old go into a
>>adult book store censorship as well?
>
>Yes it is.  The child's parents have the right to control what the
>child sees; a bunch of people who want the child to grow up naive,
>innocent, and foolish do not.
>

I agree with parents right to control what the child sees. But even with the
right guide I don't know if a child could fully understand what goes on in
the adult book store. I would NEVER want my child to grow up naive or
foolish. Even with the best in sex education by my parents one thing comes
to mind. We where in NYC seeing a show and afterwards we went to dinner but
on the way  we saw prostitution and a couple *screwing* in an alley. It was
explained to me that this was not the way sex was for MOST people. I was
about 7 or 8 but I did not really understand until I was in my teens.

This brings us to another question. What *IS* a childs age of understanding
fully about sex?

>> I grew up in an very open family sex
>>was NOT an issue to hide. We would talk about sex in a very open matter. I
>>still do not belive that an seven year old can really understand what is
>>going on. in alt.sex.* or reading penthouse ect. 
>
>So?  A seven-year-old probably can't understand a lot of things.
>Should you prevent him from learning by keeping him away from anything
>he might not understand?
>

True a seven year old does not understand alot of things. I may be slow but
I did not understand the NYC city stuff for a long time. Yes it could have
been my parents fault but I don't think so. A child learns through education
either by parents or schooling and time.


>>I feel that censorship is wrong in all forms EXCEPT when it comes to YOUNG
>>children. The way I see it you are for children to see and read alt.sex.* so
>>therefor do you belive that child pornography is ok too? That could be
>>censorship as well. 
>
>It is censorship.  I'm against child abuse; I don't care about child
>pornography.  (If somebody writes a story in which one fictional
>character has sex with another fictional character who is depicted as
>being 12 years old, what child is injured?)

There is nothing wrong with fiction.

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