From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Re: Questions/Answers and some Trivia
Date: 26 Sep 92 04:37:42 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <BuvBqK.9CD@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>In article <15559@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes...
>>In article <28325@twics.co.jp> joji@twics.co.jp writes:

>>>Who was with Leo when Bobby and Mike ego to the woods to pick up the 
>>>football of cocaine?  One of the Bernaud(sp) brothers? [early episode]

>>Good question, actually.  My money is on Dr. Jacoby, since we find out

>     My thought was always that it was Jawques -- someone standing
>     behind Leo to imply someone BEHIND Leo -- a backer in the drug

Guess we'll agree to differ on that one.  Neither of us could convince
the other before.

>>>When Bob leaves Leland's body in that scene where the sprinklers come
>>>on in the jail cell, why does Leland always say "They made me do it"?
>>>Why doesn't he say 'He' made me do it, as in BOB?
 
>>Because back at the time when he killed Teresa, MIKE and BOB were still
>>partners.  We still don't know how / if Leland knew MIKE, or the one-armed
>>man.

>     That's not right.  The One-Armed-Man says he was BOB's partner
>     until he saw the Face of God and took off the arm -- he was
>     already One-Armed when we see him in FWWM and nothing suggested
>     he had JUST RECENTLY lost that arm...  

True.  But this was well after the death of Teresa.  Nothing tells us
when the Arm was cut off -- it could have been any time after Teresa's
death.

>     Instead, I think Leland's dialogue in his death scene signifies
>     only that there are more beings involved in it than just BOB:
>     The LMFAP, the Tremonds/Chalfonts, probably the Giant as well...
>     They have a larger motive than just thrills in feeding on the
>     fear and suffering of victims. 

[theory deleted]

Inventive, but perhaps a little too literal.  I prefer to think of MIKE,
the Giant, and the other beings as existing to test people -- Cooper,
Laura, and maybe even Teresa and Leland.  I don't really think of them
as characters in their own right.  This seems to fit in better with Blue
Velvet and Lynch's other work -- evil doesn't need a motive, evil just
IS.

>     BOB, I'd argue, hordes the creamed corn for himself -- he's 
>     addicted to it, as his victims are usually addicted to drugs.
>     So he kills humans.  That makes the OAM a reformed alcaholic --
>     he broke the addiction.

Now that, I buy wholeheartedly.  It gives a wonderful symmetry to Twin
Peaks -- the spirits are acting on cravings as irrational as the humans.

In Tibetan terms, MIKE would be the one who got off the Wheel, who broke
the cycle.  That fits too.

>>>In the roadhouse, the night Maddy is killed, Donna is sitting in a both
>>>with James.  The Giant tells Cooper that it is happening again.  He goes,
>>>she starts crying.  Why?
 
>>Movie spoiler.  There are hints that Donna's sudden transformation from
>>nice-girl to weirdo is connected to something in the movie which begins at
>>the Roadhouse.  Maybe she too gets a sense that "it is happening again" --
>>that the process that corrupted Laura is happening to her.

>>Or maybe not.  It could just be that she's breaking down at the thought of
>>her part in Harold Smith's death.

>     Or not...!  Um.  I agree that on one level, Donna is probably
>     crying for Harold Smith - but TWIN Peaks usually operates on
>     at least two levels.  James also looks stricken, and why would
>     he be weeping for Harold?

Or weeping for Donna.

Then again, Donna might also have been crying as a parallel to her
actions in the pilot upon realizing that Laura was dead.  That would
also explain Bobby's disbelieving, mystified look -- that's how he
reacted when Truman told him Laura had been murdered.

>>>Does anyone know if the Log Lady saw the Giant up on the stage.

>>No.  We don't know.

>     Yes we do.  She saw the whole thing -- she's the most peacefully
>     intuned to this shit in the whole town; she's survived exposure
>     to the "Owls" (in the form of her husband and her log) and been
>     left alone.

Dramatically, though, it makes more sense to assume that she doesn't
really know or directly understand.  Otherwise, it's really remiss of
Cooper not to interrogate her the next morning.

Remember, the Log Lady doesn't always understand what her log says, she
just relays it.  (I.e. "Deliver the message.")  

>     She's moving during the visitation, and no one else in the
>     Roadhouse is - that is, apart from Coop himself, who definitely
>     saw it (duh).

I think this just qualifies as an OOPS, like Hank's domino changing or
the way Maddy is still breathing after getting her head smashed in.

>     She's a savvy kind of lady, you know -- she knows what's what.

She knows what IS.  Whether she knows what "what is" is, is a different
matter.

Jeez, that's about as clear as some of the Log Lady's statements...  :-)


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