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From: cherkaue@ee.rochester.edu (Brian Cherkauer)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GM Credit Card
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:48:08 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1au8t0INNpqd@agate.berkeley.edu> shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:
>In article <BvqGs6.44x@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djm48887@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel J. Moisson) writes:
>>I just got a letter back from GM's bank and I was not approved to
>>get the MasterCard although I was Pre-Approved!!!!

>can i sue them for false advertisment if i get
>turned down also?

If you read the fine print on the back, somewhere in there it says that everything
written on the front may or may not be BS.  (Well, not in so many words...)
I specifically remember them reserving the right to reject you, accept you
but with a lower limit than promised, or accept you with a higher limit than
promised.

I'm still anxiously awaiting my $3000 pre-approved act now before it's too
late GM MasterCard, but I supposed that I won't end up with it on my
teaching assistant's salary.  (Which was good enough for AT&T's Universal
Card.)  Oh well, I wasn't going to buy a GM anyways.

-Brian
   cherkaue@ee.rochester.edu
From: boubez@tastesgreat.rutgers.edu (Toufic Boubez)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: NJ Traffic court: anyone been there?
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:26:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hi. I've been issued a speeding ticket on the NJ Turnpike. The ticket says
that I was "paced" at 73mph, which is preposterous, becuase I saw the
unmarked car at the side of the road, saw it pull out into traffic, and
there was _NO_ way I was going that fast, since I monitored my speed all
the while he was behind me in traffic. Whether he clocked me before with a
radar gun or not is not the issue. The ticket says "paced at 73mph", and
it's complete baloney (I wasn't going 55, for sure, but with the flow of
traffic, maybe around 60-65, like everybody else). Anyway, I'm going to go
to court. The only thing I have going is that I had my wife in the car with
me.  We both noticed the police car on the side of the road as it was
pulling out. Now to my question(s): Has anybody been in traffic court to
fight a ticket? What are my chances, What's a good tactic, Is there any
required reading before I go plead my case? Any info would be greatly
appreciated. Thanks.

toufic
            R 2 4      Toufic Boubez
            |_|_|      boubez@cesl.rutgers.edu
            | | |      Computational Engineering Systems Lab
            1 3 5      CAIP Center, Rutgers University, NJ
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: ingnorant question...
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 09:04:15 GMT

In article 1bgk57INNql2@agate.berkeley.edu, shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:
>
>I know that the following question doesn't have a place in this
>newsgroup... but, I know a lot of people out there have answers to this
>question since so many participated in the recent "Driving in Snow Flame 
>War".
>
>Why is it that in places where it snows, that salt is spread over it?  
>I realize that it prevents the snow from forming, but how?
>
>Just email the answers to me to prevent clogging the newsgroup w/ 
>irrelevant things....  
>
>Thank in advance.
>
>-most apologitically
>  David Shy
>  shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu
>


No apology necessary. Keep the war going.

Andy.
From: hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Im going to be sick...
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:42:13 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Oct8.183446.12796@viewlogic.com>, brad@buck.viewlogic.com (Bradford Kellogg) writes:
|> 
|> In article <DP00RB4w164w@cellar.org>, blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:
|> |> 
|> |> Drivers of foreign-made cars in the Flint. Mich., beware.  Begeining Monday 
|> |> only US made cars will be allowed in the City Hall Basement garage.  Flint 
|> |> Mayor Woodrow Stanley said he issued the order to send a message to buy 
|> |> American.  And he says he might designate other city lots for US only cars.  
|> 
|> The mayor is obviously a complete idiot. He will undoubtedly be forced to
|> rescind this moronic exercise very quickly. 
|> 
|> How in blazes does he plan to determine what is American enough and what
|> isn't? Do you let in an Eagle Talon or a Plymouth Laser but turn away a 
|> Mitsubishi Eclipse? ...[stuff deleted]...  Where do you draw the line?

  I believe the OMB (Office of Management & Budget) or some similar Federal
  orgainization imposed a similar US made or US %-content requirement for
  it's fleet of cars.  After taking delivering of several hundred (?) 
  Chevy Caprices, they were informed that they were in viloation of their
  own rules since the Chevy's were made in Mexico and fell below the set
  US %-content level.  Oops!
From: kiisaka@csi.uottawa.ca (Ken Iisaka (the mad pianist))
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: top ten sellers of '92
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:55:47 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa

Note that Honda sold more Accords in U.S. than every automakers in the world
sold cars in Japan...

I mean, if the American big three managed to have 10% market share in Japan,
that's only 30,000 cars.  They should be worried about selling cars in the
U.S., the world's largest automobile market by far.

However, fewer and fewer cars are being sold in the rest of the world.  Cars
don't make sense in many countries.
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From: brein@gpvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Barry Rein)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: BMW Oil Change Light
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:53:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory

The car is a 1985 BMW 635csi.  The oil change light on the instrument panel
is on.  How do I make it go out after I change the oil myself?  Please be
specific.

Thank you very much.

Reply to rec.autos, or directly to...
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From: ashley@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Ashley Gorakhpurwalla)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: 300ZXTT mod.s
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:31:10 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

I was wondering if anyone has experience/knowledge with any aftermarket
modifications for '90-'92(3) 300ZX Twin-Turbos?  I was especially
interested in a kit by Grimmer-Phillips (exhaust from the cat. back,
more aerodynamic air filter fixture, and a controller chip) that claims
a boost of 96 h.p. (300 + 96 = 396, nice!)

Any and all recommendations/opinions are appreciated.

If it matters my car is a '90 model.

-ash

ashley@trident.datasys.swri.edu
From: mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: tires, the laws of physics, and reality as we know it
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:14:17 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Oct12.160333.18385@cabot.balltown.cma.COM> welty@balltown.cma.com (richard welty) writes:

>i guess it's time for another entry in the frequently asked questions
>list.
>
>one of the most frequent sources of misconceptions, suprisingly enough,
>is college freshman physics.  often, students are required to take this
>course as a preliminary to going into some other corner of science or
>engineering, so it is the last physics course they ever take.  the common
>mistake is to confuse freshman physics with reality.

>richard
>-- 
>richard welty                            518-393-7228
>welty@cabot.balltown.cma.com

Thank God. Another person who obviously has figured out that life is not
composed of massless systems, frictionless pulleys, and ideal surfaces.
Thank you for sort of backing me up on my post from a while ago. It is
good to know that some people think before they speak. 

From that mechanical engineer who sometimes wonders about people...


-- 
|       Michael G. Mshar        | My Life-Long Goal: To keep common sense    |
|   mmshar@mn.ecn.purdue.edu    | alive and keep the idiots from taking over.|
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: news@walter.bellcore.com
Subject: Re: calibrating speedometer
Reply-To: jchen@wind.UUCP (Jason Chen)
Organization: Bellcore, Morristown, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 13:03:54 GMT

You can do that via the dealer. But they would have to remove the
speedometer and send it to a lab. You will be without a car for at
least a week, maybe two. In addition, the cost may not be cheap.

I suggest that you find another way to present your case.

Jason Chen
C. Jason Chen 
jchen@wind.bellcore.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Volvo P1800 -- what's a good price?
From: james@koko.csustan.edu (Jonas Grumpy)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 05:55:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

In article <Oct.7.20.22.24.1992.19791@cesl.rutgers.edu> boubez@cesl.rutgers.edu (Toufic Boubez) writes:
>
>Hi There. I have the opportunity to acquire a 1965 P1800. I've always
>wanted one, but I never actually looked around actively for it, so I'm not
>sure about the current prices. It needs some body work (mainly surface
>rust, on first inspection). The owner claims the engine has been rebuilt,
>but only the carbs need to be synchronised. The interior is kinda in bad
>shape, but not _really_ bad (ie the seats steering wheel and major
>instruments are there, but the dashboard is a mess). How much would be a
>good offer? Thanks.

He should pay you to take it off his hands. These cars were the DeLoreans
of the '60's. Funky styling backed up with no power. You'd think with
a body restyle they would also put in a decent engine. The year was 1965
the least they could have done was drop in a hot cam and a pair of 
sidedraft webers back up by a 5spd tranny. Oh well not every one can
be Alfa Romeo.
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From: woodstock!scatlin@mcnc.org (Scot Catlin)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Need help finding...
Keywords: Saturn bra
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:27:18 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP


        I don't normally read this news group, but it seemed the best
place to turn for the kind of info I'm looking for.  I have a 1992
Saturn SL which recently got backed into by a truck. (I assume... hit
and run.)  There is a small dent and scratch on the front that is
quite ugly, but not really worth spending as much as it might cost to
fix it.  My wife came up with a brilliant idea.  How about a bra?!?
Sure...  cover it up, it won't cost much.  NOT!!!  I called Saturn of
Chapel Hill in North Carolina, and they want $157.75 + tax for one!!  

        Question #1:  Is this a reasonable cost for a car bra?

        Question #2:  Are there after-market manufacturers that sell
as good quality car bra for a Saturn cheaper?  If so, could you please
send me the name and address?  

        Question #3:  The front panel is plastic, so the scratch won't
rust under the bra but, are there any other factors I should consider
in this undertaking?

        Please send e-mail to the address below if you have
suggestions.  Thank you in advance.

                Scot
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: bobpassl@boi.hp.com (Bob Passell)
Subject: Re: Dunlop D60A2 opinions?
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:49:58 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

I also had D60A2's put on my Accord a year ago. They were
outstanding in the water, but like one of the previous
respondents indicated, they were annoyingly out-of-round.

The vendor tried to be helpful, and was ready to replace them in
the blink of an eye, but I ended up going to another vendor
for replacements (other problems with vendor #1). Vendor
1 took them back and gave me a full refund. I would have bought
replacements from him if: a) we could have settled on a 
substitute b) the first set hadn't thrown a balance weight
in the first mile after they were put on c) one of the lug 
nuts hadn't worked loose 24 hours after they were installed.

Your mileage may vary. The tire has potential, that's for 
sure!
From: J.R. Pych
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GM Credit Card
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:07:05 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.
Originator: jrp7260@hertz.njit.edu

In article <1au8t0INNpqd@agate.berkeley.edu> shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy) writes:
>In article <BvqGs6.44x@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djm48887@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel J. Moisson) writes:
>>I just got a letter back from GM's bank and I was not approved to
>>get the MasterCard although I was Pre-Approved!!!!  They said I
>>don't make enough $ being a student!  Way to go GM!  I was just
>>trying to help our countries automakers by using their card.  Now
>>I am glad I got rid of that GM car!!
>>  
>
>Well, since I'm also a poor college student just
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>barely making it by from all the fee increases
>they've been having, I guess I shouldn't even
>waste the $.29 to mail in my "pre-approved" GM
>mastercard form.....
>
>can i sue them for false advertisment if i get
       ^^^^^^^^
>turned down also?
>
>btw:  a few weeks by, there were a spur amount of people who said that
>	they have purchased/ordered the '93 Ford Probe.... to those of
>	you, how's the initial quality and initial satisfaction?
>
>
>david shy
>shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu

Bwaaaaaaaaaaahahahahhahahahahahah!!!!!

Jeff
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Why not a Taurus SHO Wagon??
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:30:20 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <15035@auspex-gw.auspex.com>

>
>There are differences between the Sable and the Taurus principally in
>materials and the fact that the Sable is better put together than 
>the Taurus.  
>

In what way are Sables "better put together" than Taurus(es)?
To the best of my own personal knowledge they come off the same
assembly lines ala Camaro/Firebirds.  Do Sables get demonstrably
measureable better nuts'n'bolts? Wiring? Are their engines
lovingly torqued together with more care?  Please be specific, if you
know. 

>Don't forget that the Sable is an upmarket car; the Taurus is an
>affordable middle class car.  Better appointments higher
>grade of plastic, more style, etc...
>
Okay.. the Sable has a full width light bar across its front and
a slightly different C pillar in the sedans. The Sable and Taurus
wagons are visually different ONLY from the front end. If a 
light bar equates to "more style" then so be it I guess. 

Model by model up thru the lines, the cars sitting on the showroom
floors at Ford dealers versus Mercury dealers are incredibly
similar. While Mercury has no equivalent of the Festiva or Mustang
(and no trucks) and there aren't any Lincoln clones at a Ford 
dealership, if you put a Sable next to a Taurus.. a Cougar next
to a T-Bird, or a Whatever the bigass Merc is next to a Crown
Victoria, you basically have three pairs of cars with very slight
visual differences on the exteriors, very slightly different
option packs, and very slight differences in fabric style or type
of fake wood on the dash on the insides.  But I'd be of the 
opinion that the difference in quality of construction or materials
is more one of the perception that the mfr might want to instill in
you than it is any true tangible difference.



>
>
>Tom Pickett 
>tpickett@auspex.com
>SHO  GOZE

Harv
From: toml@voodoo.boeing.com (Tom Locke)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Tire Advice needed for Maxima SE
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:04:14 GMT
Organization: Boeing Graphics project, Bellevue WA

Hi everyone,

I am in the process of replacing my 40,000+ miles original
tires for my Maxima SE ('90).  I have narrowed down the 
choices, as follows: Goodyear GT+4, BF Comp T/A, Michelin XGTV,
Dunlop D40M2, and Yokohoma UV+4.  Have anyone had any experience
with any of these tires?  My primary concern is low noice,
ride comfort, good dry, wet traction (I live in Seattle:-),
or if you have other tires that you like that I didn't mention,
please let me know. I'd appreciate your help. Post/e-mail welcome.

Thanks a lot
-- 
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Boeing Computer Services        E-mail: toml@voodoo.boeing.com 
P.O. Box 24346  M/S 7K-20           or: uunet!bcstec!voodoo!toml
Seattle, WA  98124-0346
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade)
Subject: Re: Im going to be sick...
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:21:45 GMT

In article <iqBcsB1w164w@cellar.org> darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) writes:
>nau@ssesco.com (William Nau) writes:
>
>> In article <DP00RB4w164w@cellar.org>, blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) writes:
>> 
>> |> In (todays) USA today (Oct, 7th) on page 3A, there is a small article, "No
>> |> Foreign Cars".
>> |> 
>> |> Drivers of foreign-made cars in the Flint. Mich., beware.  Begeining Monda
>> |> only US made cars will be allowed in the City Hall Basement garage.  Flint
>> |> Mayor Woodrow Stanley said he issued the order to send a message to buy 
>> |> American.
>> 
>> I really find this hard to believe (not calling you a liar).  If this is
>> true, it can't last.  It violates some basic civic (no pun intended) rights.
>
>Believe it; it was reported on CNN Headline News as well.  And yes, it looks
>pretty damn unconstitutional -- not to mention pathetic -- doesn't it?
>

guess woodrow stanley is a fucking moron then.  how pathetic!  maybe voters 
will throw his unwiped butt out of office!
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: rec._autos_, pal, rec._autos_
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 20:16:27 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <3882@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.005045.26294@nezsdc.icl.co.nz> derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>>The biggest Weenies are the ones who drive cars in the < 7 second bracket 
>
>	The biggest weenies are those blubbering little needledicked
>cretins who interrupt every discussion about performance in CARS with
>chants of "Motorcycles are faster! Motorcycles are faster! Motorcycles
>are faster!"

The really ENORMOUS weenies,  so big that there is no room left for brains
are those who edit someones post down to one line and then twist the meaning
round completely.

>	Jesus Christ.  Look, you win, OK?  Motorcycles are faster than
>cars.  Big fucking deal. Now why don't you go play in traffic?

>	And don't forget to wear your helmet.

In this city at least I would be pulled over by the cops for wearing a helmet
on the street in a convertible.  They take a dim view of the implications
of that type of behaviour.  

If you had spent more time thinking than editing you would have realised that -

I DONT RIDE A MOTORBIKE, NEVER HAVE, NEVER WILL.

_I_ REALISE THAT I SHARE THE ROAD WITH THEM AND NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT.  

Sorry I felt the need to shout there.

I don't ride a motorbike.  If I did I would be really scared to share the 
road with people like you.  Bicycles go more slowly than I do - I try to 
be aware of them too.

Derek Tearne


-- 
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Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ari@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ari Ollikainen)
Subject: Re: sho limits
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:49:26 GMT

In article <3914@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <147520024@hplsla.hp.com> andyc@hplsla.hp.com (Andy Cassino) writes:
>>In RWD, when you let off the gas, it's the other way around. Let off the gas,
>>and the rear end slows down more than the front [...] understeer,
>
>	Why do 911's spin when you lift then?

Because the weight in the rear wants to keep going in a straight line instead
of following the front wheels... I guess most of you diddn't completely 
read the posting where I said that "Having driven Porsches and VW's of varying
vintage, I *prefer* trailing throttle oversteer..."

Ari Ollikainen
SHO NUFF

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: dcho@scott.skidmore.edu (douglas cho)
Subject: Suggestions for first time car buyer?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 07:56:35 GMT

I'm a college student in search of a car. I admit that I've been
ignorant of cars, and that now I seek your advice. Can anyone suggest
to me a second-hand car that's pretty good? The more info. the better.
I'm planning to spend on $10000 maximum including insurance.

Thanks in advance.
From: tjf@adl.dmt.csiro.au (Thomas Fung)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Leaded gas and older engines
Date: 13 Oct 92 08:28:32 GMT
Organization: CSIRO Division of Manufacturing Technology, Adelaide, Australia


> >Here in California, leaded gas is no longer available.
> >So what does one do if the car's engine is designed for leaded (i.e., 
> >the old "regular")?
> >
> >Seems like there are three options:
> >
> >	Use unleaded regular
> >	Use unleaded premium
> >	Add "Lead substitue" to unleaded.
> >
> >Any opinions?  Any other options?
> 
> 	Rip off the heads and have hardened valve seats added.  I believe
> the purpose of the lead was to lubricate the valve seats so they wouldn't
> wear down, so with hardened valve seats they won't wear down and you can
> use unleaded gas.

When I had my 1980 Ford Escort's engine rebuilt, I asked the mechanic if
it was possible to convert the engine to run on unleaded petrol by replacing
some parts with heavier duty versions.

His answer was that because unleaded fuel burns at a much higher temperature,
converting my car to run on unleaded fuel ould be much more involved than
this.

Any comments on this ?



Cheers,

Tom.

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