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From: mcyang@pollux.usc.edu (Bien-Chao Yeun)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: more borther questions for Mr. Joe Wang
Date: 6 Apr 1992 17:14:42 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

In article <69134@ut-emx.uucp> joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang) writes:
>There's no need to "re-unify" the family since it isn't divided.

Then, why using "zhong-hua-ren"(Chinese) means divided and "zhong-guo-ren"
(Chinese) doesn't ?   Why is the word "guo" so important ?

Do you want to put Taiwan in the same "guo" with China now ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C"
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 01:15:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.102427.2886@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:
<
[to me:]
<I think I understand your view now.  You mean that the legitmate
<government of Taiwan during 1896 to 1911 was the Qing government.

Yes.

<You mean that a government has the legal right to the land it
<ceded to the other state.  You mean that it is illegal to own a
<ceded territory.

No.  I said nothing about "legal".

<You mean that even ROC did not consider itself
<as the legal government of Taiwan from 1912 to 1936, it was still
<the legitmate government of Taiwan.

Yes.

<You mean that a government
<that has abandoned its subjects to alien powers has the right to
<force its legitmacy on the very same abandoned group.

No.  I said nothing about "right".

					--Scott

-- 
Scott Horne                               ...!{harvard,cmcl2,decvax}!yale!horne
horne@cs.Yale.edu      SnailMail:  Box 7196 Yale Station, New Haven, CT   06520
203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
ZANG4 HAN4 YI4 JIA1 / GONG4 JIAN4 ZHONG1HUA2!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang)
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:49:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.214232.2953@vax.muskingum.edu> ericlaw@vax.muskingum.edu writes:
>	** Hay, when is the birthday of Jian Zhon? How come
>	   I never know there is one?  Ooops!
>
>	   Too bad, I can't even remember the tune of the "School Anthem"


I guess it is Dec. 6 for Chiang Kuo HS (CKHS) and Dec. 12 for TFGH.
I might have reversed them though.  I have been to both celebrations.
The events were just ordinary.

Tze-yau Huang

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: ptyshih@watnow.waterloo.edu (Paul T.Y. Shih (Taku or Pear))
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:30:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.080008.3808@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.133736.6015%ywang@Uz.nthu.edu.tw> ywang@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (Brian the Midnight Rider) writes:
>>
>>     If you or you know someone was graduated from HSNU, please
>>contact the alumni's association, especially if you have lost touch
>>with us.
>>Brian Y. Wang ( HSNU H688 )
>
>Gee, 688?  I was in 663 for 2 months before I left Taiwan.  I guess
>I am not an alumnus, but the days of HSNU was certainly great!
>
>Tze-yau Huang
>
>What does that H in front of 688 stands for?
>If you are using HSNU already (not MSNU), isn't H redondant?
>If you are distinguishing the junior and the senior highs, you should use
>'S instead of 'H, right?  I don't think the JH of HSNU have the same
>class coding system.
>
>
>
>
	
	In the old days, we said "the senior high school of NTNU".

	Paul (H472) - I guess that the high here denotes "Gao1"

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*				      *					  *
%	   Paul T.Y. Shih             % So many paths that wind and wind, %
*     Systems Design Engineering      *  While just the art of being kind *
%   University of Waterloo, Canada    % Is all the sad world needs....... %
*				      *				   	  *
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: scc53091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (TAIWAN!!! 5/18/92 )
Subject: Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:42:48 GMT

wwong@cs.tamu.edu (Wai-Kwok Wong) writes:

>In article <1992Apr14.064809.29349@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> scc53091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (TAIWAN!!! 5/18/92 ) writes:
>>
>>I am not a pro KMT nor pro TI....just to clarify that.
>>

>Me, too.

>When I call myself HKese, I mean I am from HK. It has nothing to do with the
>British government. Moreover, when I call myself Chinese, I mean my ancestors
>are Chinese. 

>I don't think there is any political game to play with the word "Chinese".

	I thought the same way before...till I came to the United States.
	MANY of my Taiwanese American friends call themselves Taiwanese
	and they strongly emphasize that!  It's all the results of their
	parents' (probably their fathers) teaching...the parents came to the
	US because of the corrupt KMT regime before...  To HK people and
	Singapore people, it means much less to be called Chinese.  Of course
	we all know that our ancestors are from China...  But times have
	changed...  I am...Kaohsiung Ren(Kaohsiungnian), Taiwanese, Chinese.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Most Ridiculous ? (Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C")
Keywords: No
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:59:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.014419.13494@medsys.rn.com> bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.005415.17863@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>
>>  3. How much of the gold reserve was transfered to Taiwan through warships ? 
>>( I have werstern resources in hand , but I hope you can look for it by yourself 
>>for more materials .)
>>
>
>You forgot to mention the foreigh aid. How is it compared to the gold?

I knew it , but I had no intention and felt no need to mention it .
But I finally mentioned it in an article .

>
>Chou1

  I think I don't have the time to write a book about the history of Taiwan
in the past 100 years . My major is beyond that .

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: steven@dlb.com (Steven Tsowen Chiang)
Subject: Re: False accusation
Organization: D.L.Buck & Associates, Inc.; San Jose, Calif.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:53:48 GMT

In article <11077@borg.cs.unc.edu> chu@church.cs.unc.edu (Heng Chu) writes:
>In article <1992Apr4.11532.11532@cel.SRI.COM> hsieh@cel.SRI.COM (Mark Hsieh) writes:
>>How come that I never know who is the OVERSEAS representative of 
>>the area I reside?
>
>*** Maybe there is one from DPP. I could be wrong though. Isn't there 
>    some female DPP overseas representatitive from Stanford Hoover Center 
>    (or whatever)? Sorry if this is incorrect due to my always-failing memory.
>    But if it's true, I think she will represents nothing but DPP.

Her name is Chang Fu4 Mei3.

-- 
       Steven T. Chiang || steven@dlb.com || {netcomsv, zygot}!dlb!steven
       DISCLAIMER: Views presented herein are mine exclusively and do not 
      necessarily represent anyone else's, including those of my employer.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang)
Subject: Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C"
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 10:24:27 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.233642.8923@cs.yale.edu> horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne) writes:
>
>Does that answer your question?
>
>					--Scott

I think I understand your view now.  You mean that the legitmate
government of Taiwan during 1896 to 1911 was the Qing government.
You mean that a government has the legal right to the land it
ceded to the other state.  You mean that it is illegal to own a
ceded territory.  You mean that even ROC did not consider itself
as the legal government of Taiwan from 1912 to 1936, it was still
the legitmate government of Taiwan.  You mean that a government
that has abandoned its subjects to alien powers has the right to
force its legitmacy on the very same abandoned group.  What do I
need a country for if the country can always sell me away and claim
to be my master again to sell me another time?

Tze-yau Huang

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: NON-POLITICAL Gin1 Young's novels
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 23:03:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr3.105132.12706@leland.Stanford.EDU> infiniti@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Chung-Yih Lee) writes:
>In article <1992Mar31.155117.4204@umbc3.umbc.edu> wangs@sol.engr.umbc.edu (Shawe-Shiuan Wang) writes:
>
>>Which dynasty was 'Shiou4 Our4 Jiang1 Hoo2(lake)' in ?
>>Gin Young himself said this novel does not belong to any dynasty.
>>Well, I don't believe him. We can find some clues in the novel.
>
>	I haven't read the novel for quite a period of time and I don't quite
>remember details... however, as I remember, Jang1 San1 Fong1's
>Wu3 Dang1 Pai4, which was founded in the late Yuan Dynasty/early Ming Dynasty
>is present in the novel. That makes the setting between Ming and Ching. I don't
>think anybody has a pigtail in the novel; that makes the only possible setting
>to be in the Ming Dynasty. There are, of course, not many clues supporting this
>claim present in the novel... maybe it's one of the "Chronological errors" in
>Jin's novels. But heck, who really cares? :)
>
>



I agree. It should be Ming or Ching Dynasties. But the author himself said
in the epilogue: " Such kind of story will occur in any dynasty, any
epoch." So the novel (which my wife loves most) is very generic. Compre
it with San1-Guo2-Yan3-Yi4 (Romance of the three kingdoms), there are
many similarities in politics, human nature, and tactics in either battle
or conflicts.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: NON-POLITICAL Gin1 Young's novels
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 22:59:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr03.023519.12456@medsys.rn.com> bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System) writes:
>
>Question: How did Guo1 Jing4 and Huang2 Rong2 get this Xuan2 Tie3 Jian4 -
>the heavy stick Yang2 Guo4 used?
>
>I simply forgot how the Xuan Tie Jian was transferred from Yang2 Guo4 to
>Guo1 Jing4. Would some Jin Yong lovers please refresh my memory? Thank
>you very much.
>
>Chou1


Never mentioned in the novels. The last Hsiang1-Yang2 Battle, Young2-Guo4
never used the red-steel-sword. This was left out in the latter one:
"Yi-Tian-Tu-Long-Ji." But I think this isn't the major topic in the
three stories.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:7176 soc.culture.china:12401
From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: advice to Mr. Joe Wang
Date: 26 Mar 92 10:42:50 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <ksvjm4INNel3@pollux.usc.edu> mcyang@pollux.usc.edu (Bien-Chao Yeun) writes:
>There are several indian nations inside the U.S.   Do you want to tell
>us that there are many "Guo" inside Mei-Guo ?

>Guo means state !

If this were true then no one would be talking about PRC and ROC being
part of one "guo" right now, yet that's how many people think of it.

Words are complicated.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang)
Subject: Re: State vs. Nation (Was Re: advice to Mr. Joe Wang)
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 11:00:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.021731.28394@acs.ucalgary.ca> bauwens@acs.ucalgary.ca (Luc Bauwens) writes:
> 
>So, I checked my sources, and I am told,by a 
>person who is familiar with the issues involved, that the 
>proper translation for "Country" is Guo, while for 
>"Nation", it is something like "Mi2Zu2" (???). 
>Luc B. 
> 
So, what will you say to Harry who thinks that national identity
is just like citizenship rather than an ethnic/cultural identity?

Tze-yau Huang

ps Harry's post comes just one post ahead of yours
From: shihtsun@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Shih-tsun Alex Chou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:21:25 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr15.190940.24630@news.larc.nasa.gov> chang@cmb00.larc.nasa.gov (Chau-Lyan Chang) writes:

>        One can make a fair comparison only when he studied in both
>        schools and really feels the difference. If you only went to
>        one school and try to say your school gives the best education,
>        it's not surprising that people graduated from the other school
>        will argue with you. Well, you sure can express your own feeling.
>        But argueing on which one is better does not make any sense.

	Just a reminder for fairness: there were three high schools'
alumni claimed their senior high is the best of Taiwan on this newsgroup.

Alex
From: lko@math.rutgers.edu (lko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Control?! (The Six-Year...)
Date: 12 Apr 92 09:35:14 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Apr11.223753.29387@watserv1.waterloo.edu>, ptyshih@watnow.waterloo.edu (Paul T.Y. Shih (Taku or Pear)) writes:

> 	Well said! I dunno why there are so many people out there
> 	blinding their eyes with their hands, deafing their ears
> 	with their finger. Most of the people in Taiwan proudly
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 	regard themselves as citizens of R.O.C.. It's ok if you
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


    Could you cite a few facts to support this claim? Thank you.


lehhun
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: scc53091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (TAIWAN!!! 5/18/92 )
Subject: Re: Be like Scott!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 16:45:13 GMT

thuang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Tze-yau Huang) writes:

>In article <10APR199222022720@oregon.uoregon.edu> kuolin@oregon.uoregon.edu (Yeong-Kuo Lin) writes:
>>The great Great GREAT country. China. People Republic of China. Who make
>>the most powerful weapon. The country who own the most powerful nuclear
>>bomb. Who could destroy the earth easily. I prefer American take me as a
>>japaness, not Chinese. Because Japaness mean Toyota, walkman, VCR. Something
>>don't feel so terrible. Chinese mean weapon, killing students.
>>I prefer prefer as a Japaness. furthermore, Taiwanness is also good. Chinese
>>always make people to relate Killing students, weapons.
	I think the above is sort of hasty generalizatio, it's true to an extend
	though...
>Don't speck nonsense at the corner of the street.  Be confident about
>the Han heritage and never assume that a Han will choose not to be proud
>of it.
	What the heck?  I don't think us new new generation associate Han with
	our heritage very much. If someone ask who my ancestors are, I first say
	"Taiwanese"...or a little older than that "um...someone from Fujien..."
	So am I proud of what Han did for me?  Not really...it's (the Han Dy.)
	too long ago for us (the young generation) to associate with it.
>Tze-yau Huang

Steve Chen, dude raised in Kaohsiung...:)
University of Illinois
Dept. of Aeronautical & Astronautical Engineering
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: bbs@medsys.rn.com (Public BBS System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: "orthodox" Hakka dialect in Taiwan?
Keywords: Hakka, language
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:05:06 GMT
Reply-To: bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System)
Organization: Med-Systems, Kingsport, Tennessee

In article <44572@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jclei@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Lei) writes:
>
>The point here is I've never been taught there exists an "orthodox" Hakka, not
>to mention Yao2 Ping2 Hakka.  But in Ts4 Tung2 Hsian1, Yun2 Lin2 Hsien, where
>reside many Hakka Ngin, there do have a primary school which name is Yao2 Ping2
>Guo2 Hsiao3.
>

More than one Hakka told me that Yao Ping Hakka was the Zheng Tong Hakka
but not many Hakka in Taiwan was able to understand Yao Ping Hakka. I
don't know why they said Yao Ping Hakka was the Zheng Tong Hakka and
since not many Hakka in Taiwan were able to understand Yao Ping Hakka
it is not surprise to me that Hakka in Taiwan may not consider Yao Ping
Hakka as the Zheng Tong Hakka.

How is the character Yao written? As far as I know in most of the cases
it is pronounced as Rao which means to forgive.

Chou1
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: cyeh@descartes.waterloo.edu (Woody)
Subject: Re: ChineseTalk on PostScript Level II Printer?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:48:18 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.221157.15928@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> cwt2@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Charles W Tang) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.132959.29438@descartes.waterloo.edu> cyeh@descartes.waterloo.edu (Woody) writes:
>
>>	Pardon me, Jiyu1 Shi4 Men. I think "Hong" is closer to Tibetan.
>>
>>        Ye4, Zhong1 Yi4 (Woody)     Another Kaohsiung Dude.
>
>Well, in American English, "hong" would be pronounced "h-ah-ng."

	Hmm... I was thinking in Ping Ying. You prefer English?
	Okie doie, how about "hone". :-)
>
>By the way, I'm from Kaohsiung too!  *extending arms to shake hands*
>
	Nice to "meet" you pal! :-)      *hug*
>


-- 
*^^^^^^^^^^^ Ruo4 Shue3 San1 Qian1, Zhi3 Qyu3 Yi4 Piao2 Ying3.^^^^^^^^^^*
|   (Althought Ruo4 river is very long, what I drink is only one cup.)  |
|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|
*___________Ye4, Zhong1 Yi4 (Woody)_____Another Kaohsiung Dude._________*
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: yfjchen@violet.waterloo.edu (Yu-Fang Jaclyn Chen)
Subject: Re: HSNU needs you!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:03:33 GMT

>>In article <92105.114406U53298@uicvm.uic.edu* U53298@uicvm.uic.edu (Sandy Yeh) writes:
*In my opinion, Taipei First Girl's High is *THE* best high school in Taiwan.
*I don't think we should be humble in this matter. :-)   <<

In article <1992Apr13.202045.22500@watserv1.waterloo.edu* <1992Apr14.100425.2943@vax.muskingum.edu* <92105.114406U53298@uicvm.uic.edu* (Tzu-Chien Hung) writes:

>>>>What do you mean by best? By the percentage of the students pass 
the college entrance exam? If this is the case, it is unfare to the 
other high school, especially boy's high.
We all know that most of the boys go for engineering and
college of engineering is hard to get in.
Some of my friends felt they cannot get in a engineering 
departments in some good univ. then transfer to group of social 
(group b or d) in the last year of their high school.
With one year preparation, they went in some public univ.
I bet if all the TFGH students go for college of engineering,
their percentage of the students go to univ. will go down
ignifacantly.      <<<<

    ****  I do think that you are comparing an apple to a orange!! ****
  
                                                      J.
From: bbs@medsys.rn.com (Public BBS System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: learning mandarin (Re: Please be honest)
Date: 6 Apr 92 03:39:10 GMT
Reply-To: bbs@medsys.UUCP (Public BBS System)
Organization: Med-Systems, Kingsport, Tennessee

In article <1992Apr4.163538.19708@athena.mit.edu> pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip) writes:
>
>This is unlike Singapore, where ONLY English is official and mandatorily
>taught. 
>

I was told that Singaporean must learn two languages, English and mother
tongue.

Chou1
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C"
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:49:15 GMT

In article <13955@star.cs.vu.nl> mvdvalk@cs.vu.nl (Valk v/d M) writes:
>
>The Chinese have had many wars with the Tibetans in the past. The Chinese do
>not view the Tibetans as Buddhist freedom fighters as we do in the West, but as

Violent demenstrations ? Attacking police station ? Killing police ?
Burn stores and houses ?

>poor and ignorant former-enemies and residents of the PRC. IMHO, the Chinese

Come on . Who told you this , a chinese ? Let him to have a talk with me .
Tibetans are viewed as chines by the other chinese . This statement is very 
true . are you surprised ?

>are more or less right. Of course, the Tibetans should have the right to
>practice their religion. That, btw, is all the Dalai Lama wants as well. He has

I agree with you at this point . In the Culture Revolution , religions and
and many precious traditions were destroyed . You can find the effect of it .
Some students here can not tolerate opposite opinions even nowdays .
Religions begin to be respected these days in China .

>never proclaimed an independent Tibet, as far as I know.
>
>
>Martijn van der Valk
>Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
>The Netherlands


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
From: ericlaw@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Guys, that's it for me! (Was Re: Control?! (The Six-Year...))
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:58:27 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1992Apr15.044925.18408@leland.Stanford.EDU>, infiniti@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Chung-Yih Lee) writes:
> 
> 	Man... I didn't even think I would have to clearify my point. Please
> don't avoid my arguments. Gee, discussions on this net don't seem to get any-
> where when all these people just cover their ears, say what they want to say,
> and not responding to your opinions at all. Everybody seems to still believe
> in whatever opinion they came in with. That's it... guess I'm gonna "u" this
> group for now. It has been, uh, interesting to have the "intellectual discu-
> ssion" with you guys. *NOT.* Flame one another to death! Hard!
> 

	** Hope you are still there.

	   I like this paragraph. This is exactly what make this newsgroup
	   interesting. 

	   Mao said: Bai3 Hwa1 Chi2 Fon4 (hundred flowers blossom altogether)
	   Notice that they blossom "at the same time".  They are all good.
	   And no one will change any simply because others are better.
From: aamir@IASTATE.EDU (Mohammad Asif)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: just testing
Date: 13 Apr 92 01:21:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: IASTATE.1992Apr12.202156
Reply-To: aamir@IASTATE.EDU (Mohammad Asif)
Organization: Iowa State University

I wanna know how far the Taipei airport is from the Nationl Taiwan Normal
University.
From: lko@math.rutgers.edu (lko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Most Ridiculous ? (Re: The Six-Year National Development Plan for Taiwan, "R.O.C")
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:00:57 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <Apr.15.11.36.55.1992.21946@math.rutgers.edu>, lko@math.rutgers.edu (lko) writes:


A few clarifications:

> 3. Foreign Trade. Up 33 folds in 40 years. Annual net export was
>    25-30%.

    By "net export" I meant chu1 chao1.

    The "40 years" is the 40 years prior to 1942, of course.


> 4. Ratio of (modern) physicians to total population was about 1 to 
>    2000. Contagious diseases were largely elimated.

    "elimated" should be "eliminated"



    By the way, before anyone rushes in with charges like 'Japanese
lovers', please note that the author of the book was definitely no
fan of Japan. In any case, those are hard evidences, please argue by
presenting hard evidences. 


lehhun 
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