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From: 824-5054%wwiv@tweekco.uucp (Jay Whitley #824 @5054)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: 11th LINARES
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 01:51:12 GMT

 Scheduled to appear at the 11th Linares event,
 February 22 to March 5, is the following field (which
 would be a Category 18 event: ave rating of 2677):

 KASPAROV, Karpov, Ivanchuk, Anand,
 Gelfand, Kramnik, Shirov, Bareev, Salov,
 Kamsky, Yusopov, TIMMAN, Beliavsky, and Ljubojevic.

FIDE Ranking
 1. Garry Kasparov (Russia)                     2805  
 2. Anatoly Karpov (Russia)                     2725  
 3. Vasily Ivantschuk (Ukraine)                 2710  
 4. Viswanathan Anand (India)                   2710  
 5. Boris Gelfand (Byelo-Russia)                2690  
 6. Vladimir Kramnik (Russia)                   2685  
 7. Alekseys Shirovs (Latvia)                   2670  
 8. Yevgeny Bareev (Russia)                     2670  
10. Valery Salov (Russia)                       2660  
12. Gata Kamsky (USA)                           2655  
15. Arthur Yusupov (Russia)                     2645  
18. Jan Timman (Netherlands)                    2635  
 ?  Beliavsky
 ?  Ljubojevic

Hmm...too bad Short isn't scheduled.  I guess, though, that
the organizers wouldn't want Timman (2635) AND Short(2655)
since they could drag down the average rating of the field!
<grin> (Actually with the 2677 field average, Beliavsky and
Ljubojevic must be around 2609 average between them.  Any
info on them to complete the table above?)

Seriously, it would've been nice to assure some pre-W.Ch.
matchup games.  Perhaps that could still happen if Timman
comes back in the Short match, but Short is still in the
driver's seat.

 Any thoughts about Linares?
 (I'll go way out on a limb and predict Mr. Kasparov will
  win, place, or at least show!) <grin>
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: "stephen lam" <stephen.lam@canrem.com>
Subject: postal chess ratings
Reply-To: "stephen lam" <stephen.lam@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:23:00 EST

Could someone post the top postal ratings in
the USCF and the relationship of postal ratings
to OTB ratings.

What is a postal gm,master,expert,a,b.....

Thanks Stephen.
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From: gillesf@bnrmtl.bnr.ca (Gilles Fayad 6r27)
Subject: Re: CHESS NOVELS?
Organization: Bell Northern Research Montreal, Canada.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:50:27 GMT

In article <1jss41INNed7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ck832@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephen Leary) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Nabokov, Vladimir. THE DEFENSE.

In French, the name is "La Defense Loudjine", instead of "La Defense" alone.
Nabokov explained that "Loudjine" (beside being the name of the main character)
is pronounced in Russian in a way that sounds like "illusion" in English.
This is why I find it strange that the title is "The Defense" straight.

>Zweig, Stefan. THE ROYAL GAME.
>   OK, just a novella, but still....

In French again, Zweig's book is "Le Joueur d'Echecs" (i.e. The Chess Player),
which seems closer to the actual story. Strangely, Zweig wrote it in the very
early 40s in Brazil, while he got fascinated by chess. He suicided not much 
later (1941?), (with his wife I think) by despair of the Nazis. The Nazi
regime is portrayed in his book too. [Please forgive the inconsistencies, I 
read it 3 years ago].


[other stuff deleted ...]


>Middleton, Thomas. A GAME AT CHESS.
>   Really a long poem, but often discussed in literary mags.
>

I believe it is the English translation of a middle-age French poem
"Les Echecs Amoureux". Please correct me if I am wrong...

[ Still other stuff deleted]

>Stephen Leary

Gilles


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From: choy@dvinci.USask.Ca (Henry Choy)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Novag Super Constellation strength
Date: 25 Jan 1993 21:03:43 GMT
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Jeffrey C. Ely (jeff@emily10.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
 
: it kind of seems like you are saying that you won correspondence games
: *using* this computer, but you must mean *against* this computer because
: you must realize that using a computer for analysis in a (official)
: correspondence game is illegal.

Do you mean a criminal code offense?

--

Henry Choy
choy@cs.usask.ca

What rolls down stairs alone or in pairs            This has been brought to 
Rolls over your neighbor's dog?                     you by the numbers 4
What's great for a snack and fits on your back?     and 9 and the letter P.
It's Log, Log, Log!  -- "The Log Song", from            -- Big Bird
                         Ren & Stimpy

Math is tough!       -- Barbie
From: sla@mimsy.umd.edu (Steve Armentrout)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: touch-move etiquette
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:40:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

I have a couple of questions concerning "touch-move" rules.  First, does
touch-move apply in blitz tournaments (G/5)?  At my club, we don't enforce
touch-move during blitz games, but whether the rule applies at longer time
controls (eg G/10 or G/30) is left unsaid.  Of course, such things should
be made clear at the onset of the game, but I was wondering whether there
is some "touch-move etiquette"?

Steve 
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: lumme@polaris.utu.fi (Mikael Lumme)
Subject: Users vs MChess
Organization: University of Turku
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:00:31 GMT

In the game Users vs MChess the move of
the users group is 42. Kd3.

 Game #2 so far:      1 e4   e5   13 OOO  Na6   25 Rxf8+ Kxf8  37 Qc4   Qf6
                      2 f4   ef   14 Nd4  Ng3   26 Qc2   Kg8   38 Re2   Rf7
 8 - - - - R b k -    3 Nf3  d6   15 Bb5  Qe5   27 Qf5   g3    39 Qg4+  Qg7
 7 - - p - - r - p    4 d4   g5   16 Rhe1 Nc5   28 Qd7   b5    40 Qxg7+ Bxg7
 6 p - - p - - - -    5 h4   g4   17 Nb3  Nxb3  29 a3    b4    41 Re8+  Bf8
 5 - - - P - - - -    6 Ng1  f5   18 cb   a6    30 axb4  Qe7   42 Kd3
 4 - P - - - - - P    7 Bxf4 fe   19 Bd3  Bf5   31 Qg4   Qe3
 3 - P N K - - p -    8 Nc3  Nf6  20 Bb1  Rae8  32 Qd7   Re7
 2 - P - - - - P -    9 d5   Bg7  21 Bf4  e3    33 Qc8+  Bf8
 1 - - - - - - - -   10 Nge2 O-O  22 Bxe3 Bxb1  34 Kc2   Qf2+
   a b c d e f g h   11 Qd2  Nh5  23 Kxb1 Nf1   35 Rd2   Qf1
                     12 Bg5  Qe8  24 Rxf1 Qxe3  36 Qg4+  Rg7
From: sla@mimsy.umd.edu (Steve Armentrout)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Smith-Morra Gambit question
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:39:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

Some years ago Larry Evans published what he claimed to be a refutation of the
Smith-Morra Gambit.  Is his analysis still considered the best for Black?
As I recall, it wasn't so much a refutation, as it was a safe(r) way for Black
to hold onto the pawn.  Having played the Black side against some strong
players, I can attest that it can be a long, tough fight turning the extra pawn 
into a full point.  If there is something more current, please indicate the 
source.

Steve
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: "REYNOLDS, MARK ANTHONY" <reynolds@physics.ucla.edu>
Subject: Short-Timman game 7 - analysis question
Organization: Chessnews list (chessnews-request@tssi.com)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:44:00 GMT


Why didn't Short just play 8. ... c5 instead of 8. ... g5?  This stops the
effect of 9. d4.

And why play on after losing the Queen?  Even though time control was
ten moves away, Timman could easily make ten instantaneous moves and
still keep the advantage. It's not to hard to find moves when you're
a Queen up.

Anthony Reynolds
reynolds@physics.ucla.edu
From: hwr@intercal.com (Hanon W. Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: This Week In Chess History
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 14:57:33 GMT
Organization: Chessnews list (chessnews-request@tssi.com)
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                        This Week In Chess History
                        January 28-February 3, 1993

January 28
1969 - Ferdinand Hellers born

January 29
1890 - Preston Ware died
1900 - Irving Chernev born
1948 - Raymond Keene born
1966 - Maxim Dlugy born

January 30
1841 - Sam Loyd born
1937 - Boris Spassky born
1969 - A. Dreev born

January 31
1924 - C. von Bardeleben died
1955 - H. Atkins died
1983 - Louis Statham died

February 1
1920 - Adolph Albin died
1949 - Lawrence Day born

February 2
1923 - Svetozar Gligoric born
1942 - Keith Richardson born
1952 - Henrique Mecking born
1959 - Alexander Rueb died
1987 - Yakov Estrin died

Copyright 1993 Hanon W. Russell
All Rights Reserved
From: iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Scoresheets
Followup-To: rec.games.chess
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:01:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Office of the President
Distribution: world
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In article <memo.880816@cix.compulink.co.uk>, iwatters@cix.compulink.co.uk
(Ian Watters) wrote:
> 
> When I saw the original post, I thought it was talking about the contents of
> the scoresheets, not the physical bits of paper.  After a post from Mr
> Russell, I'm in no doubt about the ownership of the paper.
> 
> But who, if anyone, has the copyright over the moves of the game itself?
> 
I remember seeing some discussion of this at the beginning of the recent
Fischer-Spassky match. If I recall correctly, the response was that the
moves of a game are considered public record, just like the score of a
sporting event, but any annotations to the game are copyrightable. Thus,
you can copy the moves of a game from a book for example, but you cannot
copy any commentary or annotation without permission from the copyright
holder.

-----------
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All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
University wanted me to speak for it.
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: edd@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ed.knowles)
Subject: Re: Short-Timman game 7 - analysis question
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:11:28 GMT
Summary: Not exactly obvious

In article <9301240554.AA05492@helios>, "REYNOLDS, MARK ANTHONY" <reynolds@physics.ucla.edu> writes:
> 
> Why didn't Short just play 8. ... c5 instead of 8. ... g5?  This stops the
> effect of 9. d4.
> 
> And why play on after losing the Queen?  Even though time control was
> ten moves away, Timman could easily make ten instantaneous moves and
> still keep the advantage. It's not to hard to find moves when you're
> a Queen up.

Short wasn't a whole queen down, but a queen for a minor piece down in a
closed position. It seems Short was trying to blockade the position entirely
so that Timman wouldn't be able to breakthrough. I think he resigned after
his bishop was chased away from d5 because then it was obvious that white
would be able to breakthrough by "sacking" the knight on a6 or c6 demolishing
the black king's fortress and then mopping up with queen and rook...

                                       -Edd Knowles
From: froument@rodenbach.lifl.fr (Froumentin Max)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: CHESS NOVELS?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 13:33:24 GMT
Organization: Laboratoire d'Informatique Fondamentale de Lille
Distribution: lifl
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One more chess film :

La diagonale du fou
(for those who don't know, 'fou' (pronounced foo) is the bishop and means in
french 'crazy' (see below), because in french chess, the 'fou' is the king's
jester)
by Alexandre Arbatt.
Starring Michel Piccoli.

The best film I ever saw about chess. The story: the old world chess champion is
being challenged by a young genius. The focus point of the film is on the
paranoia of the chess veteran (for example, he believes people in the audience
(in the chess tournament, not in the film theater, this is no comedy!) try to
hypnotize him). In the end, he ends up in an hospital, the young
challenger is declared winner without playing, but they meet in a hospital room
and finish the match in blindfold chess.
There are no major errors about chess, avoiding the cliche's and
all the games are real.

	Max Froumentin
From: schiller@whorf (Eric Schiller)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: World Ch. Uncertain?
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:12:43 GMT
Reply-To: schiller@sapir.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <2272wwcp511@tweekco.uucp> 824-5054%wwiv@tweekco.uucp (Jay  
Whitley #824 @5054) writes:
> Reuters reported 1/17 that Timman felt a world championship
> final was uncertain due to sponsorship problems: ``Better to see
> if there are any offers for this match at all,'' Timman said.
> 
> What's happening?  I did hear that the championship was
> originally planned for Los Angeles and now is to be split between
> Los Angeles and a Canadian city.
> 
> Are the players just posturing for more money, or is it possible
> for a FIDE-sanctioned world championship not to take place due
> to sponsorship problems?  If the latter is the case, I would
> think the FIDE-cycle championship could be in jeopardy and chess
> might revert to a champion-approved challenger format...(i.e.
> Kasparov-Fischer or Kasparov-J.Polgar or whatever can bring in
> the biggest sponsorship moneys to Kasparov's satisfaction.)
> 
> Comments?
As per direct conversations with Kasparov on 1/6-1/10/93:
World Championship bids from North America all fell through.
Barcelona is likely site, with Milan possible.
(At that point he was unaware of Santiago bid, which was 
made known to me by his manager).

Your suggestion of a return to the old format is 
certainly a possibility if FIDE doesn't get its act
together soon. Why should the Champion have to spend
so much of his own money and time seeking funding for
his own title defense?
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Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: mann@src.dec.com (Tim Mann)
Subject: Re: Timman-Short Game 9 moves in xboard format
Reply-To: mann@src.dec.com
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:21:50 GMT

In article <C1ErKG.AB@dcs.ed.ac.uk>, pds@epcc.ed.ac.uk (Patrick Surry) writes:
># xboard game file -- Mon Jan 25 09:54:17 1993
>
>	algebraic
>1. e2e4 e7e5
...

You should get a newer version of xboard, which now saves games in
standard notation instead of "computer algebraic."  The latest version
is 2.1, patchlevel 8.  You can ftp it from valkyries.andrew.cmu.edu,
directory pub/chess/X.

Using 2.1 pl8 to load the game you posted and save it out again gives
this result:

# xboard game file -- Mon Jan 25 10:17:40 1993

	algebraic
1. e4  e5
2. Nf3  Nc6
3. Bb5  a6
4. Bxc6  dxc6
5. 0-0  Ne7
6. Nxe5  Qd4
7. Qh5  g6
8. Qg5  Bg7
9. Nd3  f5
10. e5  c5
11. b3  h6
12. Qg3  f4
13. Qf3  Bf5
14. Qxb7  Be4
15. Qxc7  Bxd3
16. cxd3  Bxe5
17. Qb7  Rb8
18. Qxa6  f3
19. Nc3  fxg2
20. Re1  0-0
21. Qe6  Rf7
22. Nd1  Qxa1
23. Qxe5  Qxe5
24. Rxe5  Nc6
25. Rxc5  Nb4
26. Ba3  Nxd3
27. Rc6  Ra8
28. Rd6  Rxa3
29. Rxd3  Rxa2
30. Ne3  Kg7
31. Kxg2  Ra5
32. Rd4  Rb5
33. b4  Rbb7
34. Rc4  Rfc7
35. Rg4  Rd7
36. h4  h5
37. Rg5  Rxb4
38. d4  Rf7
39. Rd5  Rb2
0-1



Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: mittman1@athena.mit.edu (Christopher T Chiu)
Subject: book recommendation
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:03:05 GMT

There is one book I strongly recommend for beginners--
it's called "How to be a Winner at Chess" by Reinfeld
(yes, Reinfeld!).  It's a small book, costs only
$3.95, but it has a lot of essential material, and
is very easy to read.  Look for it!

From a curious student of chess,
Genghis
mittman1@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Subject: BLitz question (Was: touch-move etiquette)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:14:51 GMT

Here's another question for blitz rules experts:

  I know if both flags drop then the game is a draw - so once someone's 
flag drops the player can still play unless the flag is called by the
opponent. And in blitz chess one who makes an illegal move loses. But
what happens if Player A's flag falls - but player B doesn't notice
the fallen flag and proceeds to make an illegal move. Can Player A claim
a win since Player B has made an illegal move - even though Player A's
flag is down???

Thanks.

-Ron
From: jadiel@altair.csustan.edu (Jose Juan DeLeon)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: SANKit
Keywords: Compiled / Amiga
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:57:59 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus


Has anybody successfully compiled SANKit on an Amiga platform?

I have compiled it successfully, but I don't know if it works properly.
What should the output file "gnu_list" look like with the default test
procedure?

Thanks

Jose
jadiel@altair.csustan.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: jqtaylor@boi.hp.com (John Quill Taylor)
Subject: Is It Sound?
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 19:03:45 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
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Is the following Knight sacrifice sound in the Budapest Defense:

   1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 e5 3. de Ng4 4. e4(?) Nxf2(!)

   from my memory I recall something like:

   5. Kxf2 Qh4+ 6. Ke3 Bc5+ 7. Kd3 Nc6 8. Nf3 Nb4+  9. Kc3 Qxe4
   10. a3(?) Na2+ 11. Rxa2 Qxb1

   with an eventual ...a5! and ...Ra6 threat

Any comments?
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: lano@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Lee Nowell)
Subject: Computer Chess
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:23:56 GMT

I am looking for a chess program for the sinclair QL. I had an original copy of
psion chess but even though it was backed up you still have to use the original
for the final loading stage. Due to this, the micro drive cartridge has worn
out and hence does not work any more.

Does anyone have or know where I can get a copy of chess for the QL (preferable
psion but not essential). I am willing to negotiate a good price for it.


Cheers


Lee.

I would appreciate it if you would email me directly on

lano@dcs.warwick.ac.uk
From: edt@css.itd.umich.edu (Eric Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Karpov Loses In 12 Moves
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:12:55 GMT
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Larry M. Jordan (jordan@aero.org) wrote:
: Was Karpov playing quickly at this point?  The night hitting the
: bishop, followed by occupying the surrendered diagonal are the
: kind of superficial motifs you see in 5 minute games (by A players).

I think it was something psychological.  There are certain positions
and certain moves which when they're pointed out seem perfectly
obvious.  But when you're sitting at the board, there's a human blind
spot (which computers don't have) that makes us miss certain moves
alot.  In particular the backwards Queen diagonal is the hardest move
to see in chess.

--- Eric Taylor edt@umich.edu, 'edt' on ICS, 1824 USCF
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From: "jay hack" <jay.hack@execnet.com>
Subject: pc chess programs
Reply-To: "jay hack" <jay.hack@execnet.com>
Organization: Executive Networks Information
Distribution: rec
Date: 21 Jan 93 02:52:52 EST


US>I've seen people asking for chess programs for PC,
US>so I repost this text:

US>Chess Programs for PC
US>=====================

Thanks for the interesting information, but could you explain what
methodology was used to come up with the USCF ratings for the various
programs.  I think that at the USCF Computer Chess Challenge, this
summer, Knightstalker won a game against a GM at G/25. I'm not sure who,
I was running the two of the demo Boards and the moves at the end were
coming so fast that I forget exactly what happened.  Admittedly the GM's
had played a speed chess tournament that day and they were tired, but
perhaps the "effective" rating of the programs is better at faster time
controls because the increase in search ply is not proportionate to the
increase in time between moves.
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From: schleize@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Anthony D. Schleizer)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Austin chess clubs???
Date: 27 Jan 1993 20:41:57 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
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Reply-To: schleize@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Anthony D. Schleizer)
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If anyone out there knows when the University of Texas at Austin chess
club meets could you send me some e-mail on when, and what the dues are,
if they hold tournaments, etc... Thanks
					Tony Schleizer
From: geider@amigdr.gna.org (Frank Geider)
Subject: Re: Computers in corr. chess (was: Re: Novag Super Constellation strength)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Organization: ATACOM's Versailles Node
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Date: 27 Jan 93 13:47:00 MET
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Ralf Stephan (ralf@ark.abg.sub.org) wrote:
> jeff@emily10.Berkeley.EDU (Jeffrey C. Ely) writes:
> > In article <2b56f211wnr070@ark.abg.sub.org> ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stepha
> > n) writes:
> > >(I won several correspondence chess games with it, two with mates in six
> > >and ten, respectively)
> > 
> > it kind of seems like you are saying that you won correspondence games
> > *using* this computer, but you must mean *against* this computer because
> > you must realize that using a computer for analysis in a (official)
> > correspondence game is illegal.

It's no article in the International Correspondance Chess Federation (ICCF)
rules of play wich speak of using computer for correspondance game.
When you play correspondance chess game, you have always the possibility
helping with books, review a.s.o...
Also indeed, but very fair play, to take help from other player.
So why not using a computer ...
I think it's for that idea ICCF don't forbid the computer, no possibilites
to verify it ...
Oh, I'm not using computer for correspondance chess but I think it would be
the advice of man who use it ...

        Bien Amicalement

                          Frank Geider
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From: capsa@igc.apc.org (CAPSA)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Chess playing computers
Date: 22 Jan 93 04:53:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1451600070:000:322
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!capsa    Jan 21 20:53:00 1993


A friend wishes to buy two (2) chess playing dedicated computers (not software
for a PC).  He would like to spend about $150 for one and about $100 for the
other.  Will a knowing person please send me email suggesting two models so that
I may pass the information on to my friend.

Thank you.

Fraternally,

Jerome Bibuld