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From: vja8569@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (Vicki J. Adkins)
Subject: Re: LOV JACK'S DEATH
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio
Date: 12 Nov 1992 08:10 EST  

In article <92316.004914FGBCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <FGBCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes...
>Ciao Soapsters
> 
>Anybody under the opinion that Jack is still alive, and that evil ol Clay
>might have had an (under) hand in Jack's alleged demise?  Lately I have been
>thinking that Jack has been abducted and held somewhere by the Clayster
>to get the Alden blue ribbon stock.  Anyone thinking along these lines?
> 
>Just wondering if I lost my mind, anyone in the same mental state?

I never really thought of it until you mentioned it , but it does make 
a lot of sense.  I mean it was awful convenient that Jack die right
at the time when Clay needed to obtain a large portion of stock!  Plus
now we know that Clay is trying to drive Stacy into a mental institution
to obtain the stock.  He's the one calling and playing a tape of Jack's
voice and having a copy of Jack's watch made.  He's paying the nanny a lot
of money to help him do it!  I like your idea!
From: llk@pyrxbooter.eng.pyramid.com (Lynn Lassalle-Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ATWT: 11-5 babydoll update
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:42:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <9211061553.AA21989@oracle.us.oracle.com> jmeranda@us.oracle.com (Jeep) writes:
>
>From:     Karen Williams <HQSUN1:ski@ivy.Princeton.EDU>
>
>QrHr is snoozing and Lila walks in a puts an envelope on the bedside
>table.  Later, when QrHr awakens, he opens the envelope and sees that
>it's the negative .. he doesn't know how it got there .. Barbed came
>with a box of silk flowers and she knows that the negative probably
>found its way from SuperD to Cargo to Lila to QrHr.

Was it ever said who was in the picture with Chairolegs?

Lynn
From: mcmahon@nd.edu (Sheila M. McMahon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ATWT: Test
Date: 6 Nov 92 21:01:20 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

This is only a test! Just ignore me.

Irish
From: corinne@freya.cs.umass.edu (Corinne J. Roy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: The famous well storyline
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:04:16 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

Hi--
   Just talked to a friend who is a DOOL watcher (I'm not).  He says that the main character, Marlena, is stuck in a mineshaft and has been there forever...
Hmmmm, sounds familiar!!  Anyone here watch DOOL who can confirm if they are doing a remake of the AMC plotline??

--Cori Roy
From: sdoshi@olaf.wellesley.edu (Sucheta Doshi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Tracy my darling
Date: 6 Nov 92 06:07:17 GMT
Organization: Wellesley College

In article <1992Oct31.173059.7932@cis.ohio-state.edu> cantor@iguana.cis.ohio-state.edu (scott eric cantor) writes:

>
>	Uh huh.  Like when Mac runs off to Texas for Felicia, leaving Connor
>in charge, who I might add was supposed to be...the ENTERTAINMENT!  Not the
>MANAGER!  If you want to blame Bill or Holly for not taking care of this place
>fine, but there's plenty to go around.
>
>And of course, I'll regret bringing up the truth, but do you recall when Anna
>and Sean opened that PI agency after Robert came back to be commisioner?
>After the first storyline or two that used it, it seemed to conveniently
>disappear, and then occasionally reappear for an episode or two.  Funny,
>I don't recall Anna working for a living either, and she had a whole house.
>
	Anna DID work for a living.  She was Chief of Police and an
EXCELLENT DETECTIVE.  She was ALways solving the cases for RObert or 
getting the final clues that helped him solve cases.  SHe was the
team leader when they busted the cartel, and while working with
Sean they did a lot of spy work to solve the Domino stuff, etc.  Just
because you never saw the minor boring cases that they had doesn't
mean that she didn't work for a living because she DID.  BTW, I
distinctly remember one episode, where she and Sean and Felicia were
in their office and Sean mentioned something about working on a missing
dog case..so they showed some boring cases too.  I guess you never bothered
to pay attention.

-Sucheta
From: mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC TAN - my life
Date: 11 Nov 1992 23:17:43 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
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Keywords: rings, cake, bells, photographers, music, minister, long white dress


Well,

Since a few of you asked

The REST of you can figure this is all a TAN and just ignore it if
you're not interested.

     ANYWAY - off and on over the years I've mentioned a certain
person by a variety of names, SO, BH, BH, (yes, that's both better
half AND butt head) etc. naseum.  Last week, just to throw a wrench in
the works I mentioned my fiance.  Well, that was one way of announcing
an engagement.  A few of the more observant readers caught that and
asked so I'll come out with the details.  

     We've been dating since approximately Feb. of 1988 so it's not
like we don't know each other.  THINK of how many people have been
married and divorced on AMC in that length of time.  Think of how many
people have had broken engagements.  Think of how many people have
slept with each other.  We started going together before Jr. was
conceived.  Actually I think it was just before Dixie and Will came to
town.  SOOOOOOOo since we've started dating Dixie has had the hots for
Ross, has had an extramartial affair with Adam, has had Adam's child,
has been put in the looney bin, has divorced Adam and married Tad and
broke up with Tad and was about to get back together with Tad when he
hit the river and then she met and married and divorced Craig and
started fooling around with Brian.

     Gee, makes MY life seem stable :^)

     And we won't even TRY to figure out what Erica's been up to in
that time period.

     ANYWAY, in the past 4+ years neither of us has been married or
engaged or in the looney bin or had a child or divorced or hit the
river or had anmesia or been down a well or been kidnapped or ......

     But - we got engaged on October 29, 1992 (a Thursday) and we're  
getting married on May 1.  So far we've booked the church and the
minister and the hall and the photographer.  I've picked out a dress
and we've got most of the attendants.  The picture of efficiency :^).

Of course, I keep saying that we should do one of two things:

1) Go to Vegas (I hear the Elvis memorial chapel and drive-in has a
   lovely package deal :^)

2) Call Aunt Phoebe -- I hear she can put together a wedding in less
   time than it takes most people to buy shoes.

     But we're going to wait until May and do it the old fashioned
way.  But we WILL take a page out of Tom & Livia's book and make SURE
the invitations have proper postage :^)

--
Then along comes "The Next Generation" and it's totally
successful without us.  It does something to your ego when you
discover that they're getting along perfectly well without you! 
  -- Leonard Nimoy

    Mary Allison (mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu) Urbana, Illinois
Catx2 Owned, Square Dancer, Leaper, Engaged Person
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: krissie@locus.com (Krissie Griffiths)
Subject: Re: Y&R: 11-3; Victorias Hair
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:40:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.130334.18813@pbs.org> dparker@pbs.org writes:
>
>been bugging me for ages.  Why do these people always
>dress up in tuxedos and ball gowns when they go out to
>dinner and even when they just have a "nice" dinner at

yea, and never the same expensive outfit twice.

>home.  I mean is Gina's the only place to eat that
>doesn't require formal attire?  Where does one go 
>for a hamburger?! 
>
phils in washington, d.c., monday night, murphy brown :-)

>


-- 
so what if i am a vegan?  so what if i try to live a cruelty free lifestyle?
i'll tell you what, i sleep better at night knowing that nothing suffers for
anything i eat or wear and i try to use products that have not involved 
animal testing.
From: kriesel@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Julie R Kriesel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ATWT:  Where is Hutch?
Date: 4 Nov 92 16:34:20 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN



GGG, I'm going into withdrawal!!!  If I don't see my favorite 
farmboy soon, I don't know what I am going to do--never mind\
the fact that he won't take his shirt off again until spring.  :-(

Special K
From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R: Wednesday Update!!!!!
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:31:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov12.153108.5420
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR


All I can say, boy is Victor a hypocrite!!!
At first I thought Ryan was a no good opprotunist.  But if that
were so he would have choosen Nina over Vicki along time ago.  All
his advancement has been due to his work, not through Victoria.  He
could have married Nina to have money, he chose to marry Vicki, illegally.
He could have choosen Nina over Vicki for sexual reasons...but he
didn't.  He really is in love with Vicki!  I have worried that he
would be hurt by Vicki's emotional youth.  

My two cents worth!

Bil Snodgrass III
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: sanidas@stsci.edu (Nicholas Sanidas,G12,1385,ADD.1-29-91)
Subject: GH: da feuuuddd!
Originator: sanidas@homer.stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:32:29 GMT

apparently, some GH stars will be on FAMILY FEUD next week, Nov 9 - 13.

the actors who play Jenny, Allan, Tony, Julia, and Mac will form the GH
team...

survey says... :-)

nick
From: bd344@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael N Bastedo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL:  the entire thing is just getting a LITTLE silly...
Date: 7 Nov 1992 17:41:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bd344@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael N Bastedo)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


(ms. linda unlurks, as she rarely does, borrowing mike's account)

isn't this show getting just a TRIFLE silly?  i haven't seen a "fall" as
fake as lisanne's since those old episodes of gilligan's island where ginger
pushes mary anne into a tub of mrs. howell's face cream or whatever...the
stunt coordination here was right out of a wile e. coyote/road runner cartoon.
and are we to believe that nicky (a child with the least recognizable charm
spotted on television since roman's "twinners") pushed a grown woman so hard 
she fell and got brained on the ear of a cat statue but didn't look behind
him to see if she'd fallen down?  really, now.  

i'm also very tired of this lawrence is bad/lawrence is good/no, bad/no, good.
the guy is a rapist, shall we leave it at that?  just because he has better 
hair than bo we're all supposed to swim in sympathy for carly's recurring
lust?  gee, i don't think so.

the one bright spot is stella the nuthead throwing marlena-the-eternally-pure
down in the hole.  i think she's had it coming for a long time.  i keep 
expecting stella to just go ahead and SHOOT marlena, and then for marlena's
ghost to come rising from the dead to say, "and how did shooting me make you
FEEL?  i think i can help you."  argh.  i'd sooner get psychiatric advice from
stella.

carrie...ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...they want us to feel sorry for her, too.  
yeah, right, poor BABY.  she needs a good smack across the face.

it occurs to me that if kimberly suddenly actually had three personalities, 
it would be three more than she's ever had before.  i personally hope clair
takes over.  at least she doesn't scrunch up her face in that "oooh, i'm in
pain (hint hint i want an emmy)" face that kim wears when she is subjected
to tragedies such as her coffee being too strong.  the only strong point to
this story is that it gives her something to do so she stays away from the
other stories so they don't become contaminated.

anyway, that's all i have to say for now...i feel much better with all this
off my chest.

ah.

					sincerely,
					linda
-- 
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From: gibbsm@ll.mit.edu (MargAret D. Gibbs)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ALL: Acronyms Mini-FAQ
Summary: Frequently Asked Question re Acronyms
Keywords: Acronyms
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:03:13 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: M.I.T. Lincoln Laboratory



This is an experiment aimed towards people who don't read the long,
monthly FAQ (Frequently Asked Question list) for one reason or another, 
even though it could help them solve their problems!  I am going to 
post some of the topics covered in the FAQ separately, and not all on 
one day.  Hopefully the shorter articles will encourage more people to 
become familiar with these topics.

**************
 
Last-posted:  7/31/92
Changes since last posted: changed archive name

Acronyms commonly used by posters:

   BH: Butt-Head or Better Half
   BTW: By The Way
   CUL: See You Later
   FAQ:  Frequently Asked Question
   FYI:  For Your Information
   IMHO:  In My Humble (or Honest) Opinion
   IMNSHO:  In My Not So Humble Opinion
   IOAS: It's Only A Soap...
   IOASOG:  It's Only A Soap Opera Group
   JTYLTK: Just thought you'd like to know
   JTYMLTK: Just thought you might like to know
   OTF:  On The Floor
   OTFL:  On The Floor Laughing
   RATS:  Rec.Arts.TV.Soaps
   RSN:  Real Soon Now
   SO: Significant Other
   TTFN:  Ta-Ta For Now
   TTYL: Talk To You Later

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: mroberts@UTKUX1.UTK.EDU (Mary K.)
Subject: Re: OLTL: Cain:  What's His Motive?  
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 08:58:25 GMT

dcannon@bach.udel.edu (Debbie Cannon) writes:
: 
: Again I'm confused (so what else is new!) Could someone please
: clear up Cain's motives for me. When he first came on, I thought
: Cain was a con man and after Asa's money. A few shows ago there
: was even a reference to the fact that he had skimmed off some of
: the loot and put it in a bank, which Blair had tracked down. But at
: other times, Cain comes off as a very insecure, lonely being who
: seems to just want to find a place in Asa's heart and his family.
: (Although for the life of me, I can't figure out why. That kind of
: family he doesn't need!) He really looked hurt when Bo and Asa
: pointed out they didn't need his help in dealing with Clint's
: marital problems; it's a family problem, they said. So what's the deal?
: 
: Thanks,
: Debbie
: 
  
Good points, Debbie!  I, too, am confused.  The only thing I can think
of is that when Cain fell in love with Tina, a major metamorphosis
transpired.  I think the actor who plays Cain is doing a great job,
because he has convinced me that he sincerely wants to make atonement
for his past misdeeds and have a good life with Tina.  I don't believe
necessarily that he wants to be a part of the Buchanan clan, but rather,
that he sees an opportunity to make $$$ from his Buchanan association.
Let's face it, the Buchanans and Lords do appear to have all of the
money.  Cain (like me) is driven by money, but then again, this IS a
capitalistic society in which we live--makes good sense to me.  Of
course, I'm probably way off-base, but that depends on the writers.
Any other ideas?

-MaryK
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC:  Christmas 1983
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:51:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

Alex (and all R.A.T.Sers):

First, I wanted to say how impressed I am with how quickly you get
the posts done.  On several Wednesdays I have seen your post before
the show is even shown in California.

Second, I was reviewing an old video tape yesterday and at the very
end of the tape was the last scene from AMC at Christmastime in 1983.
I knew it was 1983 because the shows are all dated and the date is
usually displayed as part of the ending credits.  Since I have so
enjoyed your updates of what was happening a year ago, I thought 
everyone might like to know what was going on nine years ago.

Jenny was getting ready to marry Tony.  There was one scene with
Jenny and Erica and Erica was offering to give Jenny advice.  Erica
offered to give Jenny advice about her wedding night since her mother
was not around.  (Who would have ever guessed then that Erica and
Opal would become best friends?)  The very last scene was Greg driving
to New York.  The trailer at the end of the show was Donna and Benny.
Donna was holding a beautiful fur coat.  As I recall, this was when
Benny was still gambling.  I think he had promised Donna he would stop,
but he had made a big win and bought her the coat for Christmas.

Linda Mac
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 23:38:50 -0500 
From: Jennifer Allyson Turner <jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: GH: Is Tiffany pregnant?
	<1992Nov5.205231.16140@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
Distribution: na

>> I've been meaning to post about this. I read (I think in RATS) that 
>> Cheryl left a video-taped will and it leads to a custody battle. You'd
>> think they would have found it by now.
> 
>How much you wanna bet she leaves the kid to Robert on the
>video?

This would prove that Cheryl was truly delusional.  I'm sure that she
must have known that Robert is *dead*.



**************************************************************************
Jennifer A. Turner    *    "Don't believe those nutty pollsters."
jt3j@andrew.cmu.edu   *               -George Herbert Walker Bush
**************************************************************************
From: VECTRGSJ@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Gail Said Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Lawrence (response to Susan Hagan's reply)
Date: 10 Nov 1992 11:17:56 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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>From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
>VECTRGSJ@VAX.CSUN.EDU (Gail Said Johnson) writes:
>>>From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan)
>
>>RE: Lawrence
>>He was seductive with Carrie?  I thought she mainly went after him. 
>
>Not at first.  He wanted to get info on John, so he sought her out.
>He used to ask her about herself, buy her little gifts, look at her

Well, yes, I do remember that.  I guess it was so long ago I've forgotten 
it was seductive.  :)

>with THOSE EYES!!!, etc.  Then when he had her hooked, he just
>sat back and let her chase him.

And tried to keep her interested in him but at arm's length as I recall.  He
didn't really seem to be trying to seduce her in the sexual sense. 

But I'm with you, I'd rather see him seductive rather than lustful any day.

>Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 

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From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: TAN: HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH
Date: 8 Nov 1992 20:57:36 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu



Well, geez, shucks, golly, gosh....looking at the paper today
it appears as though, gosh, like, Da Buuulz LOST. So what 
do have to say for yourself there oh Stinky-pooo? Nan-nee,
nam-nee, ni neer.........


Spudnix--


-- 
Amore e 'l cor gentil sono una cosa,	   |||	 Sally A. Wilson
  si come il saggio in suo dittare pone	   |||	 Spudnix Peel
  e cosi esser l'una sanza l'altro osa     |||	 sally@mica.berkeley.edu
  com'alma razional sanza ragione.  [_Vita_Nova_ XX, Dante]
From: daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:01:03 GMT
Subject: Re: AMC: Talk to your TV was How Do you Find Budapest?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps

>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / tom@spud.kludge.com (Tom Lemos) /  8:19 am  Nov  4, 1992 /

>Ok, Admit it, how many of you out there talk back to the screen when you watch?

I talk, or yell, at the screen all the time.  Unfortunately, my BH doesn't
appreciate my comments much, especially when I'm fussing about Adam's or
Edmund's idiocy.

>Tom@spud.kludge.COM                             Tater Tot Liberation Front

Dave Ochs            "Even if I did hit her it wouldn't have done any good
daveo@cv.hp.com      ... [sigh] should'a used a pail of water, that was it!"
                         - Edmund to Dr Tolan, about "Broom" Helga
From: bdangelo@opal.tufts.edu (Barbara J. D'Angelo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: GH: Stalker
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:24:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Someone wrote in a few weeks ago (I think it was Mike) asking if
the women on the net weren't offended by the stalker storyline (helpless
female rescued by man who she will then fall in love with).  The answer
is an unqualified **YES**.  If Felicia has managed to keep Ryan 
believing that she has not regained her memory (although it looks like
that has changed as of yesterday's show), why hasn't she knocked him
out and taken off?  When he hiked into town to go to the mechanic,
why didn't she insist on going with him so that they could rent a car?
On yesterday's show, after realizing that Ryan was putting a drug in
her wine, why didn't she switch glasses while he was outside instead
of pouring it down the sink?  Felicia has the potential to be a really
strong character, I hate to see her fall into this helpless female bit.
This type of storyline is really old and tiresome.  The GH writers really
need a wakeup call.

Barbara
From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Carly (still)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 07:15:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The New Alaska Riviera
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <lflq7rINNhp1@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, Ann Pinyan writes:

> 
> Another good example - Lisanne's character was a slutty, whore person,
> but since most people liked her, it didn't seem to offend people as
> much as Carly.

1.  Lisanne wasn't introduced as a slutty whore.  She was introduced as
an intelligent, strong female character who was reduced to a slut by bad
writing.

2.  Lisanne did the same sort of things as Carly, and was portrayed as
a slut, while Carly is still portrayed as a perfect saint who can do no
wrong.

3.  Lynn Herring could act circles around Crystal Chappel with both hands
tied behind her back, a gag in her mouth, and a paper bag over her head.
> 
> Ann

     Rosita
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