HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin)
Subject: Re: NYQ is no more!
Originator: jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 17:06:46 GMT
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

junikka@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jari Junikka):
> Anyone know how much a subscription to NYQ, I mean QW, is?
> Address?

cover price per issue is $3.00 if you're outside of NYC.
subscription price for 50 issues: $53.00 ($52.XX) forgot how many pennies.

-- 
Jason Coughlin ( jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com )
Queer Without A Cause!
"I find myself suddenly in the world, and I recognize that I have one
right alone: that of demanding human behavior of the other." -- Fanon
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Heinlein & Who Are Vincent's Three?
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:09:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr7.020957.1817
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Apr7.012422.24749@u.washington.edu> rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:
>>>ObMotss: Name three famous gay or lesbian SF writers (these should all
>>>be Big Names in the Field). This isn't a challenge; it's too easy. 

No one's gotten it yet, though. I don't think Heinlein counts as one
of the three. His books are definitely of the "women fucking women
because it turns het men on" variety.

>>Well, we've got Delaney (whose work I've never read...
>If you only try one story, try, "Time Seen as a Helix of Semi-Precious
>Stones. (The Motss relevance is subtle, but unmistakable.)  It is
>a great novella - won the Nebula the year it came out, 1982?
>His autobiography was good too, lots of bisexual angst.
>Avoid most of his later stuff, esp Dahlgran, IMHO.

Where can I find that novella?

I'll have to vehemently disagree on Dhalgren, though. I read it on the
basis of some recommendations on motss about 6 months ago - it's
great. Parts of it are a little ponderous, and at 800 pages it can
wear your patience thin, but if you just trust the author and read his
book, you'll like it. I'm just now reading my second Delaney book
(Babel 17). While I'm enjoying it, it is light fiction, not something
of the magnitude of Dhalgren.

I forget - does Bradley's Mists of Avalon have motss content? I know I
liked it when I read it in high school because the men weren't the
major characters, but I don't remember details.
-- 
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/                                     A fox passed me.. once
From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Opera Queens (Re: PDX con & bickering)
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:01:19 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <7369@brchh104.bnr.ca> gal@bnr.ca writes:

[Ljuba Welitsch as Salome:]

>I am sorry, but the Met historic broadcast of her is pitiful.  Her
>intonation is terrible.  Her voice sounds like it will shatter and
>break off at any time.  She sounds like a bad imitation of Florence
>Foster Jenkins at some of the more important moments.  

All true, alas.  A more favorable description that I've heard is that
she sounds like Lotte Lenya trying to get through a Strauss soprano part
on theatricality alone.  However:  (see below)

>I assume her strong point was her acting.

While she was considered a good actress, the main point about the Met
broadcast that the Guild has reissued is that it catches her midway in
the disastrous vocal decline that ended her career so suddenly and
unexpectedly.  She's the most extreme example we have of someone who seemed
to have it all, vocally, and for no very obvious reason lost their voice
and never got it back.

The sad thing is that there WAS an earlier broadcast they could have
used, that caught her in prime condition.  The sound is much poorer, but
what is that against the fact that the later Welitsch is not the real
thing at all?  I know a number of knowledgeable NY operagoers who got
very angry over the Met reissuing the "wrong" Salome broadcast.  Listen
instead to her earlier studio recordings.

Jon Alan Conrad
From: richard@Apple.COM (a flying squirrel)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Con '92 Housing
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:06:58 GMT
Organization: Xiola Blue

Le Jojo a vomit:

>organize. How far is it from New Orleans to Portland? Who wants to meet
>me and carpool?

I volunteer.  Seriously.  Sounds like fun.  Can we pick up Bill, Jess, and
John on the way? (whining) huh, can we?

>I'd prefer to stay somewhere where I can cook. I cook very well,
>and have learned many useful kitchen things in Paris, like Suze-flambed
>Squirrel.

Not a good idea.  Chewy, and the skin does not crisp very well.

>Otherwise, of course I'd love a room of my own. I don't mind sharing
>beds atall. Ask FJ.

Oh, is he coming too?  I'll rent a red Lincoln Town Car for this extravaganza.

>I do prefer absolute silence. I'm allergic to cats sleeping on my
>face. I like to be pampered. 

What about twinks sleeping on your face?

>I would like a reading light.

Ah, we're back to the squirrel flambe again I see.
-- 
a flying squirrel is: richard@apple.com  Apple Computer Inc.

i'm your girl            friend
i'm your squirrel        friend
i'm your round the world friend
From: gsmith@concour.cs.concordia.ca (Gene Ward Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Deletions
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:21:25 GMT
Organization: Centre Interuniversitaire en Calcul Mathematique Algebrique

In article <1992Apr6.114918.10761@husc3.harvard.edu>
pierce@husc4.harvard.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>If Artimus doesn't know how to get past newsgroup moderation, or
>wouldn't do so if he was given half a chance, I will eat my hat.
>Hell, Gene, I'll eat yours too.

I've got quite a hat collection--which one do you want to eat? My
Alpine hat? My authentic cowboy hat? My beret? My solar-powered
propeller beanie (no, I'm not making this up?)
--
     Gene Ward Smith/Brahms Gang/CICMA/Concordia University 
                  gsmith@concour.cs.concordia.ca
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From: onr@netcom.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Subject: Re: Speaking to the Point (was Re: Human sexuality)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 03:41:24 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Apr8.231829.16035@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> 
jfh@greenber.austin.ibm.com (John F Haugh II) makes my day ! :-)

>Get realistic - men are pissed for the same reasons women would
>be pissed if it were ever made widely known that women kill more
>of their own kids than men and people started calling all women
>"potential child murderers".

Ok lets get realistic, the reason is that there are so many ignorant
busy-bodys with nothing better to do than twist statistics into
straight-jackets for their agendas. 
The point , if it eludes you, is that realistic correlations cannot be 
accurately drawn when the mind is clouded by prejudice.

>You don't like it when gays are broadbrushed as a bunch of men
>out to screw whatever walks, so why are you so surprised that
>men don't like being typecast as sex-crazed rapist zombies?

Oh John, before I take you apart like a piggy in transition, let me take
this opportunity to thank you for this opportunity.

Can you spell envy John?
Are you NOT getting laid, what little chickadee has you hot and bothered
but won't give you the time of day. 
Or was it a guy .. Someone else here already pointed out that you've
apparently admitted some bisexual something? whats the Stoooooooory
John.

So any way .. you might want to look into the behavior patterns of men in
general John. Genitally male human beings with relatively normal amounts of
testosterone in their bodies are chemically prone to screw anything that
walks in the first place..

Do you have any idea how transparent this kind of whining is to us John.
Thats a nice boy, why don't you slink off into the dark of the night and
jerk off over a nice catalogue of radio gear, you'll feel so much better.

>Oh.  Gay is PC.  Sorry ...

No .. Its fun John, its a hell of a lot of fun.
And dweebs like you can piss all over yourself imagining how much fun it is,
but your never gonna know, because your afraid of being rejected .

XUL .. owen

-- 
D. Owen Rowley .. Note this acct is not my primary USENET access
mail gets to me quicker if you send it to owen@autodesk.com

*No matter where you go, there you are.*
From: sik@cci632.cci.com (Shawn Kammerdiener)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Auto-Fellatio (Re: Heterosexual Exploitation of Homosexuality?)
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:32:35 GMT
Organization: CCI

In article <1992Apr15.165944.11396@nevada.edu> dickson@nevada.edu (JON THUMIM) writes:
>In article <15APR92.10134640@enh.nist.gov> aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:
>>In a previous article, twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) wrote:
>>From a discussion I had with a number of friends years ago in college, the
>>1 in 5 is about right, but amongst us all, only the Jewish men could do
>>it while the non-Jews couldn't.  Coincidence?
>>
>Hell no!  We jews posses many a talent that you goyim can only hope to
>emulate.

	My question is whether it's kosher ?
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 00:42:49 EDT
From: Ailsa N.T. Murphy <IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: outing the stars

one thing that occurred to me about outing movie stars: if
*I* up here in brewer, maine, know that jodie foster, dolly
parton, whoever, is gay or bi, how closeted can they possibly
be?
                                       -ailsa
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: RE: Lip synching and stuff
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:19:22 GMT
Organization: NIST

In a previous article, ACM022@Zeus.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) wrote:
>Papa Don't Preach. Madonna. Also: True Blue.

Express Yourself - Madonna

The song I usually do this to is Wuthering Heights - Kate Bush...
(Pat Benatar - feh!).

                                                                        __
    Sim David Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson%3338.span@sdsc.edu \/
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From: exotica@milton.u.washington.edu (Tsilke Pearlman)
Subject: Re: Goin' to Amsterdam
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:13:14 GMT

onr@netcom.com (D. Owen Rowley) writes:

>In article <1992Apr15.212755.16989@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca> aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>>En route, we are planning to spend a week in Amsterdam, so I'm looking  
>>for:
>>
>>1) Suggestions as to where to stay, preferably in an interesting part of  
>>town, i.e. "where the wild things are".

>One thing for sure, do NOT arrive in town without a pre-booked hotel
>reservation. Get a *best* guide or something like it, and check out your
>potential hotels carefully. Do NOT fall for the spiel of the folks who
>accost you out in front of the Train station promising cheap accomodations.
>Get a hotel in the good part of town, and sleaze during your waking hours.
>Mick and I stayed at the ITC and found it pleasant.
>I hear the New York has accomodations more to the american taste.

The Hotel Quentin is marvelous, fairly inexspensive and run by a gay male     
couple who can point you in any direction you'd want to go...
(and all parts of A'dam are close to 'where the wild things are', right
FJ!!? Phone is 020-626 21 87 or 627 44 08.

>>2) Suggestions for places to go for
>>	-fine cuisine that's not too pricey.

>Mac Donalds and Burger king

No, no, NO.
The Blauwe Hollander (whats the male prep. in Dutch?).
Cheap dutch food and lot's of it. Huge plates of brown beans with apples
and bacon, turreens of split pea soup to bathe in, giant mounds of
ribs, and humongous sausages...This is the place to go, and only a block
or two from the McD's on Leidsestraat.

There's another one like it, foods not as good but they give you
even more and it's run by a fabulously campy leatherfag and his
cohorts called something like "T'Spuisje"-an amazingly LOUD place
to have dinner...

>>	-fine instant sexual gratification.

>The basement of the Argos.
>The upstairs at the Web
     
Yup, and yup, according to our male traveling companion, who started at
the Argos, found a Top to take him to the C'ring and the Web and ended
up in a private fuck pad romping on the leather bedspread.

I, of course, only got glimpses of suchlike...

Tsilke-Who *will* be moving there if we have four more years of Reptiles-
that is Republicans...

---
	"Heterosexuals have orgasms, I thought, too,
	 but they have to make dates first. Poor Things."

		Kevin Killian - _SHY_
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Mormon pamphlet: "For Young Men Only"
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 10:29:29 GMT


In article <1992Apr6.151938.17924@cs.hw.ac.uk>
wells@cs.hw.ac.uk (Francis Wells) writes:

]In article <1992Apr3.044944.28456@macc.wisc.edu>
]anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

]>In article <rg5r9INN4fj@agate.berkeley.edu>
]>gnn@manray.Berkeley.EDU (George Neville-Neil) writes:

]>>I think masturbation must be what keeps people young looking :-)

]>Works rather well for me, anyway.

]I think you shouldn't let yourself be fooled, my sweet;
]there is no better way if making yourself look younger than
]by having someone rub you down with ice- cream (BBQ ripple
]if you are Ciaran) and then proceeding to lick it off...
]...it just pushes back those wrinkles ;-)

Been there.  Done that.  Loved it.  Didn't work.  Hated that.

<> "Faggot" and "homo" have joined "queer" in my handbag of
<> reclaimed words.  By the time I'm done, the bigots, unable
<> to get a rise out of me with queer or fag or homo or
<> cocksucker, will be reduced to screaming "You fan of
<> show tunes, you!"      
<> -- Eric Holeman (waveland@milton.u.washington.edu)
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderj2@vccsouth15.its.rpi.edu (Jason Anderson)
Subject: Info needed on Police harassing lesbigays
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:20:36 GMT

Hello all,

	I am currently working on writing a article on Police mistreatment of
lesbigays for a political magazine project.  What I am looking for is some
detailed information (or pointers to where I can find it) on the incident of
the j-walker in Cincinatti which took place last November.  To jar memories,
a man with AIDS was harassed by police and, ultimately, charged with
attemptive murder.  I am not clear on how the police determined he was 
"attempting to give the officer AIDS."  As you can see, my details are very
sketchy. :)  I would appreciate any information on this subject.  Replies
directly to me are welcome.

				Thanks,

				Jason Anderson
				email: anderj2@rpi.edu

P. S.  If anyone has some other good examples of police harassment, I would
       greatly appreciate them.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: Auto-Fellatio (Re: Heterosexual Exploitation of Homosexuality?)
Organization: QueerNet
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 14:16:51 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.003444.16340@nevada.edu> dickson@nevada.edu (JON THUMIM) writes:
>No, of course not.  What self-respecting rabbi would bless the union
>of two men?  When they do, I want to be the first in line.

You're *years* too late.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG                 {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!mips!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
Xref: sparky soc.motss:19536 ca.politics:3366
From: Arthur_T_Hu@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.motss,ca.politics
Subject: Charles Turing's Untimely Death
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:49:37 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Anybody watch PBS "The Machine That Changed the World"? Says that
Turing committed suicide over a trial for homosexuality. Also says
that Eckert-Machley were put out of business by McCarthyism. They
sure didn't teach us that at MIT when we learned about the history
of computer architectures. Any other interesting stories out there?
From: jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: How about we meet half way? --->Dark Knight
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:58:43 GMT
Organization: 3L Ltd, Peel House, Ladywell, Livingston EH54 6AG, UK

In article <19890@castle.ed.ac.uk>,
sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (S Hopkins) writes:

> What the fuck *is* this drivel?

Oh, some morons playing with a big, expensive toy.
Ignore it.

Hey, Sara, have we ever met?

--John
From: hvosti@NIKE.CALPOLY.EDU (Hugh Vosti)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Comics: Alpha Flight update
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:00:53 GMT


My subscription to Alpha Flight is still backordered.
Has Northstar said anything else about being gay?

Hugh
hvosti@nike.calpoly.edu
From: mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Oh god! More anagrams!
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:18:41 GMT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

pauli@sgi.com (Paul Isaacs) writes:

> 
> Manuel Antonio Noriega = Goat urine in a noon meal.
> 
> 
> Paul Matthew Isaacs    = Walt! A ham space suit!
> 

George Herbert Walker Bush == Huge Berserk Rebel Warthog


Spiro Agnew == Grow A Penis.



[] ---
[] Mike Batchelor -- mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US -- cerritos.edu!batpad!mike
[] Long Beach, California
[] TNG Quote: "You were travelling in close formation at over 80,000 kph, only
[] 10 meters from Cadet Albert, and you didn't even know his orientation?!?"
From: jglover@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: News from Auburn, Alabama
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:16:30 GMT

In article <9204122135.AA19975@client.its.rpi.edu>, buckmr@RPI.EDU writes:
> From: Dale Prince <JPRINCE3@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
> Subject:      More on Alabama
> 
> 
> *** This was posted to the Queer Nation mailing list qn@queernet.org ***
> 
> The following is a reprint (without permission) of an editorial from The
> Crimson White, the University of Alabama's campus newspaper.  Material marked
> with brackets is my own.

Note this report is from the University of Alabama at Tuscaloosa;
previous reports have been about Auburn University in Auburn;

These are two different (rival) institutions; the SGA at UA (tuscaloose)
stole the idea to discrimate from the orignial actions at Auburn.
UA's group has been active and funded for several years already.

 - jayg
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: GBLO fic (Was Re: Alexander the Great )
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 04:59:51 GMT

In article <92105.020333IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO81409@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:

>how about lesbians who fantasize about male-male sex?

Not a phenomenon I knew existed before you said this, and Elf posted
his little incident.  (You learn something new every day ...)

>one of
>the best pieces of erotica i ever read was an account of one
>gay man giving another a blowjob.

I find the average gay-authored eroticon far more stimulating than the
average het-oriented piece.  There is too much dominance buried in
heterosexual pornography for me to be able to relate to it, too much
"flapping wet pussey [sic] lips" and "thrusting stoney member" to
permit me to cope.  (Of course, these elements appear periodically in
queer porn, and turn me off as much as when they appear in het porn.)
Queer erotica, both written and visual, tends to be gentler than the
straight and unyielding kind.

>i know, i know, i'm odd...
>but for me, so long as there are only motss in teh picture, it's
>erotic.  it it's motos, it's gross.  penii look nice in men's
>mouths, nasty in women's.  am i odd or what???

Maybe.  But I tend to have the same reactions to motss and motos porn,
for the reasons mentioned above.  And hey, I like _doing_ it both.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Someone here suggested blue square badges for
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  straights.  Maybe we should try mauve
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  heptagons?" - Damian Cugley, on soc.bi
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Jason Donovan
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:23:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: bbx.276
Organization: BASIS International, Albuquerque NM

In article <29e016d3@ThreeL.co.uk> jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher) writes:
>Talking about suing people, over here we have just witnessed
>a libel action by Jason Donovan, an Australian twink pop-
>singer, against The Face magazine. 
>[deleted story about newspaper labeling Donovan as queer]

Interesting that you would bring this up.  After checking into my London
hotel room last week I turned on the TV for a bit while I rested.  I
was immediately assulted with this story.  I had never even heard of
Jason Donovan until then.  I got to hear one man explain that Donovan
couldn't be queer because "he drank pints and went surfing".

After several minutes of hearing various juxtapositions of "homo", "shame", 
"disgusting", "queer", "ruin his career", "denial"; I changed the channel 
in "disgust".

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       | 
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |    "A man without a newsgroup"
                                     | 
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: carlson@ab24.larc.nasa.gov (Ann Carlson)
Subject:  Good stuff in the newspaper 
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:43:37 GMT

There were two headline articles in the "LifeStyle" section of our local
paper today dealing with GLB issues.  One was an interview with a lesbian
couple, and the other was an article about gays and lesbians who had come 
out to themselves and others after heterosexual marriage, and their former
mates.  Both were pretty much gay positive, but I thought the really 
encouraging thing was that the articles were entirely about local people.
Our community is very conservative and traditional, but publicity like this
makes it much harder for people to deny that GLB rights and acceptance is 
"our" problem.

I've been reading this paper for 12 years, and there have been more articles
about gay issues in the past 6 months than there were in the previous 10 years.
I don't know how this consiousness raising got its start, but there have 
been a lot of positive results.  It's really got people talking, but there
hasn't been a lot of the conservative backlash that other areas have experienced
when gay positive things got in the news.
-- 



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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: dauber@sgi.com (Jeff Dauber)
Subject: Born Again Virgin (Re: Pride Parades)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:49:07 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.143752.92825@watson.ibm.com> jakec@ralvmm.vnet.ibm.com (Jake Coughlin) writes:

>on second thought, RIP UP MY QUEER CARD -- then i can be a closetted
>virgin again, ripe for picking...


Honey, It ain't that easy....


FWA
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore)
Subject: Re: These Boots Weren't Made For Walking
Reply-To: shore@tc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:00:25 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.221713.3901@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>,
> I had a pair but found that they wore out too fast using them as
> motorcyle boots.

Then you were wearing the wrong boots.  Absolutely *everybody*
knows that motocross boots are the boots of choice on or off-
road.  We are particularly fond of putting our feet down while
the bike's in motion on the street, creating a rooster tail of sparks 
when steel-plated feet meet asphalt.  It makes your feet kind of (!)
hot, too, but that's small price to pay for such a
wonderful amusement.
-- 
       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu
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