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From: burge@qdeck.com (Bill Burge)
Subject: Re: Info on graphics drivers for DV/X available? (was 8514 video)
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:55:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.204501.19030@xraylith.wisc.edu> bodoh@xraylith.wisc.edu (Daniel J. Bodoh) writes:
>In article <HABA.92Aug12145837@lesti.hut.fi> haba@lesti.hut.fi (Harri "Haba" Suomalainen) writes:
>>Drivers seem to be simple .COM-like programs, I wouldn't like using debug to
>>find out how one should be constucted althougt it is possible..
>
>Well, you might have to.  Quarterdeck, at least for the moment, seems
>unwilling to give out technical info on DVX.  All the new API and sockets
>calls are being discovered with debuggers by hackers...
>-- 
>Dan Bodoh


How about letting us SHIP the API before we start the SLAM dunk on
"undocumented" functions and processes.  THis will also let us get
the price public before any other rhetoric.  Keep the faith.

Bill	burge@qdeck.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz)
Subject: Norton Desktop 4/Windows 3.1 won't start under DV386
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 20:32:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.173142.14821@advtech.uswest.com> gregw@isaacs.uswest.com ( Greg Wilson) writes:
>I just installed DV386 on a machine with DOS 5.0, Windows 3.1, Norton
>Desktop for Windows 2.0, PC/NFS and Fast! disk cache (in place of
>SmartDrive) already installed.  
>
>The first time I ran Optimize, it hung during the first reboot at the
>PC/NFS device statements, so I commented-out those lines and re-ran
>Optimize and Stealth.  When the process completed, I tried to run
>Windows (outside of DV).  The Windows banner screen displayed, but then
>immediately returned to the DOS prompt.  I replaced config.sys and
>autoexec.bat with the pre-Optimize versions, and re-ran Optimize without
>Stealth.  Windows then complained about memory location B000, so I added
>"X=B000-B7FF" to the QEMM386 device statement ("RAM" was the only 
>existing startup parameter previously) and rebooted.  Windows now starts 
>outside of DV.
>
>However, I can't get Windows to start within DV.  Real mode apparently
>isn't supported in Windows 3.1, and there isn't a DPV for Enhanced mode,
>so I tried Standard mode: with dos=high in config.sys, I got an error
>message stating that not enough memory existed (even though "mem" reports
>535792 largest executable program size); without dos=high in config.sys, 
>the Windows banner displays but then hangs.
>
>Any ideas?  Thanks in advance...
>
>--
>Greg Wilson   
>gregw@uswest.com

I've had a similar experience trying to run NDW 2.0/W 3.1
(Standard mode) in a Desqview 386 window (I'm getting
the (in)famous UAE message with some address numbers).
I suspect, though, that it is the NDW that causes the
problem, but I can't live without it :-(. 
Has anybody been successful in running NDW/W 3.1(SM) 
in a DV386 window (irrespective of your config etc)?

Tony

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: Info on graphics drivers for DV/X available? (was 8514 video)
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:45:15 GMT

In article <seant.43.0@sunfish.ratsys.com> seant@sunfish.ratsys.com (Sean D. True) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.143937.9344@qdeck.com> garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich) writes:
>
>>No, not really.  First of all, ATI is certainly not the only company that makes
>>8514 cards (it's an IBM hardware spec).  Currently DVX supports ANY video card
>>with a DGIS interface as well.  We will certainly support more video cards/modes
>>in the future, but since the server is based on NCD's PC-Xview, much of it is
>>out of our hands.
>
>
>Gary -- maybe you or someone else at QOS could post a list of boards which 
>have DGIS drivers. When I see ads for graphics boards I seldom (never) see a 
>mention of DGIS. I'm left wondering whether this standard is a paper 
>tiger ... and I don't have time to call every company and ask them.
>================================================================
>Sean D. True
>Rational Systems, Inc.
>seant@ratsys.com -- uunet!rational!seant

Well, here's a bunch of info that I just recieved.  It's not complete, but it's
a start

Desktop AGA 1024              TI                      TIGA, application
                                                       interface level
                                                        drvr for 8514

ATI 8514/Ultra                ATI 8514/A               Relies on 8514 drvr

Spectragraphics
Squeegee                      TI                       DGIS

National Volante AT1000       TI                       TIGA

SOTA 340i                     TI                       DGIS, adapter interface
                                                        compatible--8514

Appian Rendition II           TI                       TIGA

ADEX 8514/AT256               Western Dig. 8514/A      Relies on 8514 drvrs

Western Digital 8514/A        W.D. 8514/A              8514

Hercules Graphics Station
Card GB 1024+2                TI                       TIGA

NEC Multisync
Graphics Engine               TI                       DGIS

Nth Engine /150          Chips & Technology 8514       relies on 8514

HP Intelligent Graphics
Controller 20                 TI                       TIGA, DGIS

Vermont Cobra Plus            TI                       TIGA, adapter interface
                                                            compatible--8514

Artist XJS-1024               TI                       relies on TIGA

Rasterex Liberty 810AT        TI                       TIGA, adapter interface
                                                            compatible--8514
**most TIGA & DGIS have custom drivers for their supported software eg. WP, HG
CAD


Thanx to Michelle in Quarterdeck Canada for digging this up.

Gary Rich		<support@qdeck.com>


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: burge@qdeck.com (Bill Burge)
Subject: Re: DV/X: Security Password?????
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:58:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.181923.2566@research.nj.nec.com> adam@research.nj.nec.com writes:
>
>Hi everyone...
>
>I'm trying to use the networking parts of Desqview/X.
>
>I'm using ftp's PC/TCP version 2.05pl4.
>
>I'm trying to configure the @#$()*^@#% thing, but every time I try to
>"add users" I'm prompted for a user name.  I can't get past this...
>The documentation says it checks the network driver (in this case,
>ipcust.sys) but it doesn't seem to be using that.  (I even re-copied
>the driver from the PC/TCP disk.) 
>
>HOW DOES THE PASSWORD GET SET????
>
>-- 

Adam,

Take a deep breath - now let it out slowly; aaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh.  There.
The network manager get the administrator user name from the FTP software
by looking at the "short user name", I believe.  For Lan Wrkplace it uses
the NAME environment variable if that is set. It is stored in the INETD.INF
file in the \dvx\network directory.  

Thanks

Bill	burge@qdeck.com
From: hubbell@gumby.dsd.trw.com (Steve Hubbell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: DVX TCP/IP...
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:10:41 GMT
Organization: TRW INC., Redondo Beach CA

I am interested in the DV/X product, but I will only be able to use it through
a SLIP connection.  Does Quarterdeck's TCP/IP product support SLIP?  If it
does, does anyone have any experience with it?  Does it support 16550's?

Thanks for the info..
Steve
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: azensus@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Anton Zensus)
Subject: Mathematica 2.0 under DV?
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 17:53:52 GMT


I have been running Mathematica V2.0 on my 386/20 MHz system.
Unfortunately
it does not seem to like QEMM/DV. Has anyone been able to set it up
so that it will run under qemm and/or DesqView.

Anton Zensus

azensus@nrao.edu
From: ralf+@cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: Info on graphics drivers for DV/X available? (was 8514 video)
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:16:23 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Aug12.204501.19030@xraylith.wisc.edu> bodoh@xraylith.wisc.edu (Daniel J. Bodoh) writes:
}In article <HABA.92Aug12145837@lesti.hut.fi> haba@lesti.hut.fi (Harri "Haba" Suomalainen) writes:
}>Drivers seem to be simple .COM-like programs, I wouldn't like using debug to
}>find out how one should be constucted althougt it is possible..
}
}Well, you might have to.  Quarterdeck, at least for the moment, seems
}unwilling to give out technical info on DVX.  All the new API and sockets
}calls are being discovered with debuggers by hackers...

QOS has been unwilling to give out info on video drivers, period.  They've
never made that info available even for DV Classic, saying that much of the
video board-specific code is scattered throughout DV Classic.




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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: dtodd@titan.ucc.umass.edu (David M. Todd)
Subject: Spool & printer problems with DV386 on Netware 2.0a
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:09:02 GMT

I am trying to run DV386 on a 386sx station running QEMM 6.x on a Novell
SFT 2.0a network.  When ever I try to load a program with a batch file
that includes a spool command, the batch file chokes on that command and
closes the window.  I also lose any connection with my printer ports
when I load a large database (Advanced Revelation).  Any ideas?


|/ David M. Todd \ " " " " / Phone:  413/545-0158 \ " " " " /Fax: 413/545-5345\|
|DTodd@Titan.ucc.UMass.EDU [or todd@umass.bitnet or David Todd on UMass/Saturn]|
|Department of Psychology, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003   USA|

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: Changing video drivers in DV/X
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:53:36 GMT

In article <14AUG199209593505@vms.huji.ac.il> gilf@vms.huji.ac.il (GIL FREUND) writes:
>I am trying to change the video driver selection from the DV/X setup. The setup
>program displays the new driver (from 640x480x256 to 800x600x16) but does not
>copy the drivers and fonts from the diskettes. When I try to reload DV/X I get
>garbage for a screen. Do I have to copy the drivers manualy?
>

There really are no copiable files involved in this.  This info is internal 
to the code in \DVX\SERVER\XC16.EXE.  As long as that file exists, there is
nothing to reload.  What it sounds like is happening is that you have a 
VGA card that the SETUP program thinks it recognizes, but when we actually
go to use it, it behaves differently.  What you need to know is the video
chipset that is on your video card.  DVX supports vga chipsets, not VGA cards.
There is a text file \DVX\SERVER\SCREENS.TXT that identifies what can be
supported for each of these chipsets. Our technote XVIDEO.TEC will guide
you through setting this up manually, since setup is misdetecting it.  Our 
technotes are available to the internet on SIMTEL20, and mirrors like 
oak.oakland.edu.


>While at at. Is there a way to set a spesific font to a process? I am using
>Hebrew software, that uses my VGA hebrew character set. Under DV/X, of course,
>all the fonts are software, not hardware.
>I could set the programs to run in full screen, but then wheres the fun in
>having a windowing system? What I would like to do is to set a hebrew font
>for those programs while keeping the defaults for others.
>

The only way to assign a font to a process is if the process is an X program.
The closest work around that I can think of is to see if there is either a
type 1 postscipt hebrew font with the same keyboard mapping that the 
programs font uses, or an SNF font with the same charachteristics.  Then
you could (not easily) set DVX up so that all scaled or all unscaled DOS
windows use that font.  You could then run your hebrew word processor
in scaled windows and roman char programs in non-scaled windows.

This is kind of a kludge, but it's the only way that I can think of.

Gary Rich	<support@qdeck.com>
From: z_youngwd@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: patch for dv-x 1.02?
Summary: Require description of dvxp102.zip
Keywords: dvx patch fractal
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:02:04 GMT
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University



What does the patch in pub/msdos/dv-x/dvxp102.zip at oak.oakland.edu do?
I know this patch is only for versions here files are dated 4-27-92, but
there is _no_ description of what the patch does in the the zip.

Thanks.

Wayne Young
z_youngwd@ccsvax.sfasu.edu

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From: alan@acpub.duke.edu (Alan M. Gallatin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: icons & backdrop
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:24:43 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.
Originator: alan@north7.acpub.duke.edu

OK, I'm sure this will seem like a trivial/easy question, but Quarterdeck's
documentation is hopelessly lacking on certain matters

1)  Assuming an icon file exists, how do I select the icon that gets
    displayed when I iconify a DOS based program?

2)  How do I make a .BMP file my backdrop - and take up the full screen
    instead of tiling?

Thanks...

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 Duke University School of Law; Durham, NC  |  post are statements of fact.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: laffeyt@athena.ecs.csus.edu (Tom Laffey)
Subject: Re: Spool & printer problems with DV386 on Netware 2.0a
Summary: Use a later netware driver/shell
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 20:35:18 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.020902.4204@nic.umass.edu> dtodd@titan.ucc.umass.edu (David M. Todd) writes:
>I am trying to run DV386 on a 386sx station running QEMM 6.x on a Novell
>SFT 2.0a network.  When ever I try to load a program with a batch file
>that includes a spool command, the batch file chokes on that command and
>closes the window.  I also lose any connection with my printer ports
>when I load a large database (Advanced Revelation).  Any ideas?
>
>
>|/ David M. Todd \ " " " " / Phone:  413/545-0158 \ " " " " /Fax: 413/545-534
>|DTodd@Titan.ucc.UMass.EDU [or todd@umass.bitnet or David Todd on UMass/Saturn
>|Department of Psychology, University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA 01003 USA|

David,

My suggestion is to try using a later version of IPX and NETx instead of 
xNET3.  Doing this will require that you print on the local machine and
not the network, but I think that's what you are trying to do anyway.

Now, the question comes in as to where to get an IPX for your specific
NIC.  If there are any 2.x networks at UMass then maybe you can link an
IPX from that version.  I don't know the particulars of the ODI stuff.


Tom

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: gunther@world.std.com (Gunther W Anderson)
Subject: Re: Desqview-X review?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:03:26 GMT

There's also one in Byte August 92.  It was argued back and forth here
a few weeks ago (about when it came out) as to its veracity and reliability,
but it touches on the strong points of DV/X and points to its potential
as a mature system.

						Gunther
From: esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: DESQview, QEMM, and DRDOS
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:10:03 GMT

Has anyone had problems running DV or QEMM with DRDOS?

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: fengstad@alpha.uleth.ca (Grant Fengstad)
Subject: Isolated sessions using DV/X
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:42:11 GMT

We've recently purchased a DV/X license for purposes of evaluation and
testing.  

Although, I am quite impressed with the product, I am somewhat miffed by
what I would consider a serious bug.  I am able to open a remote session
with an X-Terminal to a DV/X system and run an application quite nicely.
The intended purpose of this product was to allow X-Terminals/PC's
access a host DV/X system an invoke multiple sessions all connect to a
Novell Server.  It would appear that each additional session invoked
adopts the connection information/drive mappings and inherent rights of
the first session.  This is not acceptable for our purposes.  We must be
able to invoke multiple sessions, with each one completely isolated from
the other.  That way, John Doe can invokd DOS session and log into a
Netware Server as JDOE, while another User can invoke another session
and log in as themself.

This problem surprises me as Novell's Asynch Server product, which uses
DV as the underlying multitasker, doesn't suffer from the aforementioned
problem.

Any ideas as to what plans are in place to provide a fix.

Email responses are preferred.

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: vla@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Louis Verhagen)
Subject: Re: Maximum memory under DV/X
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:29:32 GMT

This works just fine.  I can load my 
ftp /tcp.ip kernel away with no problem. But
If I also want to access the novel network, I
need to load ipx and netx. Loading ipx is alright
but Dv/X seems to hang on loading netx. If I
load it in a dos window it can't ipx (logical).
If I load ipx & netx in a dos window, ipx
cannot find the packet driver ( an ni5210). In 
the "old" days when I loaded everything from the
autoexec.bat I could load al the stuff high. 

Anybody know how to solve this problem? I use
the novell disk and some software.

Greetings from OZ
Louis Verhagen 	vla@waves.ce.adfa.oz
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: DJGCC with DESQview/X libs now available!
Date: 20 Aug 1992 11:42:59 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Aug20.011758.24489@xraylith.wisc.edu> bodoh@xraylith.wisc.edu (Daniel J. Bodoh) writes:
>* Quarterdeck has donated X libraries for DESQview/X (qddvx100.zip)

YEA!!! Now, maybe we'll quit hearing people complain about $500 development
libraries. Way to go, Quarterdeck. If only DV/X had been out a year earlier...
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
  "Anything that an F-4 can outturn is not maneuverable." -- Mary Shafer
From: mp52+@andrew.cmu.edu (Matthew Edward Patton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Dv/X and TCP/IP
Date: 22 Aug 92 21:06:25 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I am trying to install the network modules for dvx ie the network
support for FTPsoft's TCP/IP v2.05 pl3.  I have configured both
ipcust.sys and ibmtr.sys to the best of my ability.  Yet when I try to
use setup and configure the network settings I get the blanket error
saying DV couldn't communicate with the network software.  It stated
that the .sys files were improperly configured, or that the host name
data didn't match between my hosts file and that on the sever.  Now, the
last statement is true because I don't have a hosts file.  How am I
supposed to make one?  Does anyone know the format?

I tried making a dos text file to no avail.  see next line. All help
appreciated.

my attempt = 128.2.75.xxx[space]PCxxxx.PC.CC.CMU.EDU

thanks 

-mp52@andrew
From: kk881595@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (kevin knappmiller)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: What's a good free editor for DESQview?
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:10:22 GMT
Reply-To: kk881595@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: Engineering College, Colorado State University

In article <BtBF86.4CD.2@cs.cmu.edu>, ralf+@cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown) writes:
> In article <1992Aug21.015147.28893@xraylith.wisc.edu>
bodoh@xraylith.wisc.edu (Daniel J. Bodoh) writes:
> }In article <1992Aug20.210146.9969@mp.cs.niu.edu> ulrick@mp.cs.niu.edu
(David Ulrick) writes:
> }>(2)  If you've run across a free or cheap text editor that is trustworthy 
> }>     under DESQview, I'd like to know.  I have anonymous FTP access, so    
> }>     downloading instructions would be helpful.
> }
> }I *absolutely* love Qedit -- very configurable, and a great editor!
> 
> Seconded, though I only use it for light-weight editing.  I use Epsilon for
> heavy-duty things like editing the 2M interrupt list and big multi-file
> projects (though I did once have 180 files loaded into Qedit at the same
> time while adding a common comment to all the DV-GLUE files).  Both Epsilon
> and Qedit are DESQview-aware.
> -- 

I, too, was looking for a DV editor, took your advice and looked on
wuarchive.wustl.edu in msdos/mirrors.

There is a lot of stuff under QEDIT.  Which particular version or .zip file
do you recommend from use with DV.  Not being familiar with QEDIT
I don't know what all the variety is about.

Kevin
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: Info on graphics drivers for DV/X available? (was 8514 video)
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Distribution: world,local
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 20:52:33 GMT

In article <dmurdoch.27.713807513@mast.queensu.ca> dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca (Duncan Murdoch) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.200246.11867@qdeck.com> garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich) writes:
>>
>>Ralf:  There are no video drivers. none in DVX's server and none in DV.  I
>>wish there were.  BOY do I wish there were. VGA/EGA/CGA/HERC are hard coded
>>into DV.EXE.  
>
>What are the .DVR files, e.g. GRFVGA.DVR?  DV setup calls them graphics 
>drivers.  Is their interface documented?
>
>Duncan Murdoch
>dmurdoch@mast.queensu.ca

They're really more data files than they are drivers.  They do things like
tell DV.EXE to write to B800 for color text instead of B000 for mono text.
99% of the code actually do anything is hard coded into DV.EXE.  I don't
believe that there is any "interface" into them, not even anything that
we can use internally past knowing if 50 line mode (a VGA mode) is available.


Gary Rich	<support@qdeck.com>
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview