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From: acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY)
Subject: Re: Roger's Top 25--5 Oct 92
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Date:  6 Oct 1992 12:36 EST  

In article <70097@hydra.gatech.EDU>, mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes...
>acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) wrote:
>}
>}Rumor is the SEC is courting SW Louisiana and Arkansas St, in an effort to 
>}ease the rigors of playing in the conference ...
> 
>No, no, no, SW Louisiana and Arkansas State are joining the Big West 
>next season!  Honest!
> 
>Gawd, why would the SEC want to invite them in?  Right now they get to play

Um, maybe so that Akansas or South Carolina could win a conference game?

>them whenever they want, always at home, and pay peanuts to do it.  Invite
>them into the league and you have to give them big money *and* play on their
>turf.  No way will the SEC do that.
> 
>-- 
>Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
>       "Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing 
>         swords is no basis for a system of government!"

R Dendy
From: rhouston@glacier.sim.es.com (Richard Houstan)
Subject: Re: Hawaii ranking
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:25:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.173016.16677@news.Hawaii.Edu> bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:

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   The New York Times ranked HAWAII #7 in college FootBall.  But then,
   what does the Times know of football.   :-)

Yea, right BYU is 1 and 3 and they still had to give to game away for Hawaii to win.
It says something about the quality of the New York Times algorithm.


					Richard
From: B5D@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Canes/FSU
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:47:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University

I think John T. should look at his own sig. cause no one is taking
him seriously.  The Seminoles will beat Miami as will Penn State
the following weekend.
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From: dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee)
Subject: Miss. State QB update
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:54:01 GMT

Today's Clairon-Ledger reported that high school All-American Rodney Hudson
will be State's #3 quarterback.  Hudson will begin practicing with the varsity 
should something happen to Greg Plump or Todd Jordan.   

Quoting Jackie Sherrill "We're going to look at Rodney because Rondey's an 
option Quarterback". 

Hudson was the Atlanta ournal/Constitution Georgia player of the year and led
LaGrange, GA high to the USA Today national championship.  He threw for 21
touchdowns and ran for 16 as a senior.

I don't see Jackie using Jordan as #2 QB.  Let's face it, if you lose Jordan
playing QB, you have also lost the SEC's #1 punter.  Also, Jordan is a throwing
QB, not an option QB.  Since the offense was built around Sleepy & the option
, we better stick with it.

Oh well, that's my $.02

David


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From: dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee)
Subject: Re: Auburn 31 Vandy 7
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:24:40 GMT

swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

>Next week, Auburn travels to Starkvegas, er, I mean Starkville to play the
>Mississippi St. Bulldogs (MS is coming off of a HUGE 30-6 win over Florida).
>I've been dreading this game for months.  There might be hope though.  MS
>lost their awesome starting qb Sleepy Robinson in the FL game (knee injury).
>Their 2nd qb, (Plump ?) is questionable, he was injured too.  He was wearing
>a neck brace on the sidelines late in the FL game as their THIRD qb, who is
>also their punter, actually played a few snaps at qb (he got rid of the ball
>FAST on each play.  I don't blame him...)  MS supposedly has some hot-shot
>freshman qb from Lagrange Ga who is being red-shirted this fall but might be
>un-redshirted for the rest of the season.  Any news on this MS fans??

Well, only Jackie & Watson Brown know for sure, but the Jackson, MS Clarion
Ledger reported that:

1) the MRI on Sleepy did show the anterior cruciate ligament torn and possibly
   some other damage to the knee.

2) 2nd string QB Greg Plump was taken out of the UF game because of neck 
   spasms but will be ready for play against Auburn.  

3) true freshmen Derrick Taite and Rodney Hudson will audition for the #3 
   spot next week.  

I couldn't find numbers on Hudson, but I remember after we signed him, the 
local news gave his senior year statistics something like 1300 yards passing
for 27 touchdowns.  Jackie says he will not play the freshmen unless he has to.

Oh well, that's all from Starkville.

Dave- you comin' over for the game?

David


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From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stanford banned again
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:24:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

conery@kiwanda.cs.uoregon.edu (John Conery) writes:

>I'm with Adam on this one.  The Oregon show *was* funny -- my favorite
>piece was their rendition of Monty Python's Lumberjack song ("I'm a
>lumberjack and I'm OK....").  It was one of those things where
>predispositions decided how people reacted.  I was looking forward to
>a good spoof, and that's what I saw.  People who feel threatened by
>owls (or who think anything but a traditional marching band is a
>disgrace) saw something else.

If you wish to be humorous, you must do so in the right context
for your audience, otherwise you simply offend people.
The Stanford Band owl show displayed ignorance and insensitivity
to the economic problems of the Pacific Northwest and the
extreme controversy of the whole environment-logging issue.  The message
that the Oregon audience got from the show was, "We're a bunch
of rich kids from California, and we're going to make fun of your 
problems."  That may not have been the intent, but that's what it
looked like.  I have been to a games in Eugene, and I can tell you 
that they already harbor deep resentment against Californians.
A show like that simply added insult to injury.

The LSJUMB mention of the hostage-shooting incident at
Henry's bar in Berkeley during the 1990 halftime show at Cal
was also insensitive and tasteless.  This was a terrible
incident that involved several students and some very
gruesome behavior by a deranged individual.   This "spoof"
is supposed to be funny?  

Let's say that the Oregon Band came to Stanford and did a show
about the Stanford-government-money scandal, former Stanford President
Kennedy, the Oakland fire, the 1989 earthquake, the Giants
moving to Tampa, Silicon Valley unemployment, etc.   It is possible
to do a "good spoof" on any of these subjects, and some people
in the Palo Alto crowd might think it was funny- but thousands
of them would simply find it to be offensive.  Why ruin a 
nice afternoon of college football with stuff like that?

This is the problem that I have with so-called "humorous"
marching bands.  It is very easy to do a "timely",
"witty" show in front of 50,000 people and cause offense
to a lot of people, especially when you try to deal with
politics.  Frankly, I go to a college football game to
get away from day-to-day conflicts like politics. 

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From: jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr)
Subject: Re: WOOOOOOOFFFFFFF
Reply-To: jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:11:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.155037.4131@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
|> 
|> Clemson (1-2,0-2) was the nicest thing Ive seen in the newspaper in
years!
|> 
|> has a nice ring, huh? Clemson (1-2,0-2). there. ive said it again.
|> 
|> I know ive probably doomed UVA to lose to Clemson by posting this,
but
|> I cant help it.
|> 
|> -rob
|> clemson (1-2,0-2)
|> 


	Yes, it does have a nice ring to it, doesn't it ?
Clemson (1-2, 0-2) ... I like it !

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From: dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee)
Subject: Food for J.J.
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:45:26 GMT

For the sake of a Tiger fan stuck in Texas, here's news on LSU from the 
Clarion Ledger (October 6):

Coach Curley Hallman believes his Tigers need some confidence - the kind that
can only come by beating Florida at Gainsville where the Gators have not lost
in 3 years under Steve Spurrier.  "We've got to get them excited about playing"
Hallman said Monday of a tem that is now 1-4 and 1-2 in the SEC.  "Both teams
need a victory" Spurrier said.  "Things like this haven't happened in two and
a half years."  Florida has dropped it's last two games - both SEC contests -
to Tennessee and Mississippi State.  

Hallman at his weekly news conference said that his team was ready to play
Tennessee last week and didn't quit even if the score wound up 20-0.  "We're
a young football team folks.  This is a rebuilding program" Hallman said.
"They want to win now, but we're going to have out ups and downs".

-----------------

Is it time for Spurrier to lose his third straight?  I think so.
LSU 17 , Florida 10.


David




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From: lbaum@atc.boeing.com (Larry Baum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami vs. Arizona
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:53:12 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services

>
>
>Remeber now, just because a team has a bad day does not mean they are
>no good!  Next time you have a bad day, should your school or employer
>scrap you?! I think not.  Its all a mute point anyway.  The real
>decision will be made after next week's FSU vs. Miami contest.  The winner of
>that game will be ( and deserves to be ) number 1. 
>
Why?  Is there nothing Washington can do to deserve #1?  If UW beats USC
handily on Sat. I expect they will remain #1.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Re: UW vs NIU *gasp*
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:04:21 GMT

tsau@cae.wisc.edu (Johne Tsau) writes:

>I will admit it.  I was one of those who thought UW would blow out
>NIU by at least 20 points.  Even if I wasn't looking ahead to
>OSU, the Badgers were.

Coming from Wisconsin, I know the Badgers and I was one of those who
was picking NIU to blow out Wisconsin by at least two touchdowns.
Oh well, upsets happen :-)

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From: behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Re: TROJAN NEWS VOL.10
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:35:14 GMT

In article <1aset7INN6ha@spica.usc.edu> valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs) writes:
>
>
>
>>
>>  STUFF DELETED
>>
>
>Well, since we are on the subject of the Huskies, I read that Lincoln Kennedy
>(spelling correct? :)) was being reprimanded due to knocking the officiating
>of last Saturday's game. True,or is the LA Times at it again?


  I haven't heard anything about this yet, but I wouldn't be surprised one 
bit.  Don James doesn't let his players make comments that might be damaging
to the team.  
  Personally, I thought that Lincoln Kennedy was being picked on during the
game and so did he, but he kinda flew off the handle in the post-game 
interviews.

>Fight On, THE REST WE PLAY,WILL HAVE TO PAY!
>
>Valdis

I'll let you know if I find out more about this,

-Behzad

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From: welch@mdd.comm.mot.com (James Welch)
Subject: Navy Football -- How Bad Can It Get??
Reply-To: welch@mdd.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:20:13 GMT

Three games -- no points!!  Does anyone out there know if there is any hope for this team?  I realize that the first three games of the year were against some decent teams (i.e. Virginia, BC, and Rutgers); however, an offense that can't put a single point on the board is cause for concern.  Living in the far reaches of the Great Northwest it's difficult to get any info. on the Middies so if anyone can fill me in on how the rest of the seaon will fare, I'd appreciate it.   >>> GO NAVY!!! BEAT ARMY!!! <<<  



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From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Ohio State @ Northwestern
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:31:58 GMT

Eric West from N'western writes:

> I still find it hard not to concede the Michigan game (although it will be
> played here) and the Ohio State game (they're still good, and especially
> tough at home; we'll just see if they ever have the guts to play games *at*
> Northwestern...

     Gosh, Eric, I seem to remember sitting in the nearly empty stands (Buckeye 
fans outnumbered Mildcat fans) in Evanston three years ago watching Ohio State 
demolish N'western by some obscene score -- was it 52-28? I don't know why we 
would be afraid to go back there. The Buckeye fans in Evanston not only cheered
louder than the Mildcat fans, they even cheered louder than the Buckeye fans in
*Columbus* usually cheer. I guess the travel requirement weeds out the OSU fans
who are just there for social reasons.
     Yeah, yeah, it's an unprovoked flame -- sorry, I got badgered a lot
yesterday. :-(

                                   Steve

     P.S. Looks like I need to turn up my anti-woofing. Two weeks ago, I posted
that I thought the Buckeyes were going to have trouble at Camp Randall. That 
didn't do the trick. So let me just say this: The Illini will destroy us. 
Level us. Verduzco (did I spell that right?) is going to pass for 400 yards and
run for another 100. Predicted final score: Illinois 140, OSU -7. (There -- 
that oughta do it!)
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    *The* Ohio State University
    When I was growing up, Cal and Kansas were competitive programs. They
      still are. But it's not quite the same... :-)
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: OSU-Wisconsin and such
Date: 5 Oct 1992 16:16:59 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Oct5.153122.9223@cbnews.cb.att.com> ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason) writes:
>It appeared to me Wisconsin was greater than or equal to
>Ohio State's physical strength.  Ohio State's advantage
>in the skill positions was neutralized by injuries.
   
   Yeah, Robert Smith hurt his ankle and Herbstreit played at less than
   100%. But UW's #1 tailback Terrell Fletcher missed the game w/ an injury
   and #2 TB Jason Burns played only about 5 downs due to an ankle injury.
   UW's #1 fullback, Mark Montgomery, played most of the game with a very
   sore ankle. He reinjured it fighting for a first down with about a minute
   left in the game (pushing a couple OSU linemen a few yards to do it).
   #2 FB Brent Moss subbed as the #1 TB and did a fine job. So yeah, OSU
   played with some injuries, but UW was basically without its three top
   running backs.

>Wisconsin is a much improved team, and could do very well
>in the Big-10 race.  But they're going to have to eliminate
>the penalties and other sloppy play to do it.
   
   That is agreed upon. It seemed obvious to me that UW hadn't played in
   a big game before and didn't handle it very well. Still, they made the
   big plays when they had to.

>Ohio State's problem is pretty simple from my perspective ...
>they need to get healthy.
   
   Yeah, and they need to recruit some big, strong Wisconsin boys so their
   offensive and defensive lines don't get pushed around. ;)

   --salty

>David
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami - FSU
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:04:29 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <vrcpfvg@lynx.unm.edu> jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
>In article <BvKBp3.DEF@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
>>Miami has just reaffirmed itself as the #1 team in the country
>                                        ^^^^^
>>by defeating Florida State in an exciting battle at the Orange
>>Bowl.
>>
>>Miami 19
>>FSU   16   Final
>
>I guess they are still #2 on the CNN/USA Today poll just due to some
>typo then.   ;-)
>
>-Eric Jaderlund
> jade@triton.unm.edu


  I saw both games and Miami looked more like #1 than Washington did.
The Hurricane's defense could play in the NFL.  

The polls don't mean much anyway until Bowl season- USC for example lost a 
game to the Huskies Saturday and did not fall in the polls.  USC is overrated,
just like UCLA was/still is :-)


  Doug
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From: tshannon@ccad.uiowa.edu (Timothy J Shannon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: NCAA Div. II Poll (9-29-92)
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:39:26 GMT
Organization: CAD-Research, University of Iowa, Iowa City


	I saw a post that someone wanted this, so here it is.
I might also post NAIA Div. I & II if I get time.

	Poll
----------------------------------------------------------------
NCAA Div II				Record	  Pts.       prvs.
------------------------------------------------------------------
1. Pittsburg State (4)	                4-0-0      80           1
2t. Indaina, Pa.			3-0-0	   74	        2
2t. Jacksonville St.		        3-0-0	   74	       t3
4. North Dakota State	                3-0-0      67          t4
5. Texas A & I	                        2-1-0      65          t4
6. Edinboro, Pa.			3-0-0      56           7
7. Mankato State			4-0-0	   55		8
8. Savannah St.  			3-0-0	   53	       t9
9. Sacramento St.			3-0-0      51          12
10t. Hampton, Va.                       3-0-1	   40         t19
10t. New Haven Conn.		        4-0-0	   40	       13
12. Emporia State		 	4-0-0	   34          18
13. Livingston, Ala.			3-0-0      32	       16
14t. Hillsdale Michigan			4-0-0	   29         t19
14t. C. Oaklahoma			4-0-0	   29		-
16. Sonoma St.				2-1-0	   19		-
17. N. Colorado				3-1-0	   17		-
18. Grand Valley State			3-1-0      10		-
19. Winston-Salem			3-1-0	    7		-
20. Western State			3-1-0	    5		-
------------------------------------------------------------------


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From: rszczerb@foster.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:37:04 GMT

In article <5632@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc6.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:
>
>So what you are saying, is that it is ok to tie, but not to win by one point?
>
>-ds4

No ... I'm saying it was Arizona's game to win or lose.  Miami
didn't have too much say in the matter ... all they could
do was blow as hard as they could hoping the ball would go wide.

 		- rob

  
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From: tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden)
Subject: Noles at Canes
Originator: tbreeden@wb1
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 17:24:50 GMT

I'm stuck at school.  Would someone post
or email Florida State vs. Miami scores
every now and then?

Thanks!
Andy
From: dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: MSU vs. Alabama prediction (was Re: Gators are DONE!!!)
Date: 4 Oct 92 18:20:44 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:

>In article <dkm2.718075441@Isis.MsState.Edu> dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
>>Early prediction: MSU & Bama  the game will be all defense & special teams
>>with little or no offense.
>>
>>David

>Well, lets see how rational this is. Alabama NEVER has an offense, MSU
>has lost it's star QB who triggered their entire offense, and also
>lost their 2nd string QB... gee, David, you really went out on a limb
>with that prediction, eh? ;-)

>Jay

Well, Jay, I don't want to just outright say we will beat Bama, but if
our backup QB can get into the groove, we should be able to.  

I never got to a limb, stayed on the ground :-)


David

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| Grad Student MIS       |  monstrously conceived and dangerous communist plot |
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