HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: knappen@obelix.kph.uni-mainz.de (Joerg Knappen)
Subject: Re: Hungarian Font
Reply-To: knappen@obelix.kph.Uni-Mainz.DE
Organization: Institute for Nuclear Physics, Uni Mainz, FRG
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 13:19:22 GMT

The standard cm-fonts of TeX/LaTeX can handle the hungarian character set 
by the means of floating accents. There are now extended TeX fonts according to
the Cork scheme (ec-scheme), which contain readily preaccented hungarian
letters. They are available as dc-fonts from all good TeX-servers
(eg. ymir.claremont.edu or ftp.uni-stuttgart.de).

Yours, J"org Knappen.

P.S. One of the ISO8859 Latin-* variants also covers hungarian, but I haven't
the number ready (probably *=2)

P.P.S. There are also vitual fonts floating around which are encoded by the
ec-scheme, but I don't know anything specific about them.
From: wchow@questor.wimsey.bc.ca (William Chow)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: anti-alaised fonts
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 08:42:06 PDT
Organization: Questor|Free Usenet News|Vancouver, BC: +1 604 681 0670


I am doing a lot of video overlaying work.  Does anyone
know or have a program or font that does overlaying with 
anti-alaising? 
 

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From: Dave.Beaujean@davespc.mi.org (Dave Beaujean)
Sender: FredGate@davespc.mi.org
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: ATM1
Distribution: world
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:36:00 EST

Hi All!

I just tried out 2 Adobe Type 1 fonts after installing them
using Adobe Type Manager ver2.0. The fonts do not
appear correctly on my screen. My other fonts do without
a hitch. I installed the truetype fonts and they appear
to work fine. I did not try to print them (afterthought).
Do I need more than the .pfb and .pfm file for the fonts?

Any help would be appreciated!!!
From: fkuhl@snare.mitre.org (F. S. Kuhl)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: intro to typography
Keywords: typography
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:13:08 GMT
Reply-To: fkuhl@snare.mitre.org (F. S. Kuhl)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va

I want a basic intro to typography--can anybody recommend a book?
I have enough fonts to be dangerous & would like to do them well.
I don't expect to duplicate an education in graphic design, I'd 
just like to learn the principles.  (There _are_ principles, yes?)
-- 
Frederick Kuhl			fkuhl@mitre.org
Center for Advanced Aviation System Development
The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Virginia
From: walsh@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: FAQ: Part IV: *nix Info
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:34:37 GMT
Reply-To: walsh@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst)

FAQ for comp.fonts: Part IV: *nix-specific Info

Version 0.0.3, Release 04SEP92

Welcome to the comp.fonts FAQ.  This article, posted monthly, describes many
of the basic questions that seem to be repeated frequently on comp.fonts.
Your comments are both welcome and encouraged. 

The FAQ is divided into five parts posted seperately.  The parts are:

   Part   I: General Info
   Part  II: Macintosh-specific Info
   Part III: MS-DOS-specific Info
   Part  IV: *nix-specific Info
   Part   V: Sun-specific Info
   Part  VI: X-specific Info

The decision to divide the FAQ into multiple parts is somewhat arbitrary
although it stems, in part, from the fact that it would be too long to mail in
one piece anyway.  Even if you don't use a particular architecture, you may
find it helpful to read the FAQ for that platform at least once.  Some ideas,
like font format conversion, may be relevant to more than one platform even if
they are expressed in platform-specific tools at this time.

This section is divided into the following topics:

0.  Please help!
1.  Font utilities

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

0. Please help!

  This section needs a lot of work.  At the time of this release, I'm not
  in a position to write it so I'm leaving it basically blank.  Even if
  you don't have time to write it, if you know what _should_ be in this
  section, please forward it to norm <walsh@cs.umass.edu>.

  I have just built and installed the GNU Font utilities.  I may have more
  information for this section before the next posting...

1. Font utilities

  PS2PK 

    PS2PK allows you to convert PostScript Type1 fonts into bitmap fonts.
    The bitmap files produced are in TeX PK format.

  PFB2PFA

    Converts 'binary' Type1 fonts into 'ascii' Type1 fonts.

--END OF PART IV--
From: ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: FOnts
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:36:47 GMT
Organization: U of Saarbruecken, Dept. of Computational Linguistics

dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick Zeitlin) writes:

>in an effort to eliminate ATM from my system.  Easy.

Why would you want to eliminate ATM?


     Ulrich Mayring
     volksdesign.

       - Also wir waren mit grau eigentlich sehr zufrieden -     
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: maxim@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Maxim Markevitch)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: fixed width yet decently looking screen font?
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:02:31 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA



1. Can anyone point me to a fixed width font in .snf format (or whatever else
format which may be converted to snf), to use as a screen font in X11 on a
sparcstation? I'm looking for a 15 points, preferrably boldface times-like
font. (Xterm application can only handle fixed width.)

2. Does anyone know the ways of combining 2 fonts, say, latin and cyrillic,
into one: latin in lower 128 cells, cyrillic in upper 128 ?  Assuming that I
have them both in lower 128 cells.


Thanks in advance,
Maxim Markevitch

maxim@head-cfa.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: ruderg@aix.rpi.edu (Gregory Allen Ruderman)
Subject: shareware fonts and WP5.1
Followup-To: ruderg@rpi.edu
Summary: how do you use one with the other 
Keywords: shareware, fonts, wp51
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:50:43 GMT

I hope that this is not a FAQ, but...
I just downloaded a number of HP LaserJet softfonts from the archive at wustl.edu, and was trying to figure out how to use them from within WordPerfect 5.1.
	If anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them.  WP corp. hasn't a clue.

					Thanks
					Greg

Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: kuchan@rtsg.mot.com (Joseph M. Kuchan)
Subject: Can't extract resource fork from "Logger"
Summary: Can't extract resource fork from "Logger"
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: global
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:58:10 GMT

I just downloaded the file logger.cpt.hqx from mac.archive.umich.edu
and tried to run XBIN on it to extract the data and resource forks
so that I could generate the font for use with Adobe Type Manager on
my PC. The problem is that the data for is extracted OK and I can get
the AFM file from it, but the resource fork is 0 bytes long. Am I
missing something here? How do I get the resource fork from which I can 
get the outline font file??
`

Help!

(and Thanks!)
`


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: msc@ssigate.ssinc.com (Michael S. Cross)
Subject: Re: Computer number font (For Checks)
Summary: Special ink too.
Cc: pluther@percy.rain.com
Organization: Systems and Synchronous Inc., Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:38:56 GMT

[I haven't seen any replies to this question yet.]

In article <BtnMBo.Fr8@percy.rain.com> pluther@percy.rain.com (Pat Luther) writes:
>Does anyone know the name of the font they use for writing the
>account number at the bottom of checks? (In the US, at least...)
>

No, I don't recall seeing a PD/SW font that is supposed to be identical to
the one at the bottom of the checks.  But there is a font by Atech called
Robot (Font Pack 46 - $29.95) that looks pretty close.

Just a reminder that you do need special ink to actually print checks.  The
ink used at the bottom of the checks is magnetic, so you can't just use a
regular printer to "forge" checks.  (Not that this is what you want it for)

Hope it helps (tm).

Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: collins@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Skip Collins)
Subject: Engraved fonts
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:51:34 GMT

Could someone name a few of the most common engraved fonts?  I refer to those
often used in wedding invitations, typically very seriffed, very elegant
and characterized by very narrow strokes.  Specifically, I am interested
in "established" type faces, i.e. those which have endured in the engraving
trade for at least seventy-five years or so.  Are there any fonts so old and
still in common use for such purposes?
-- 
Skip Collins
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: dauter@terminator.cc.umich.edu (Michael Dautermann)
Subject: give mac.archive your fonts!! Re: FAQ: Part-II: Macintosh Info
Followup-To: comp.fonts
Summary: graphic designers anonymous....
Keywords: fonts, fonts, fonts     
Organization: We're from the government, ma'am
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:38:03 GMT
Expires: Sun, 1 Nov 1992 05:00:00 GMT


In article <WALSH.92Sep4153315@ibis.cs.umass.edu> walsh@cs.umass.edu writes:
>FAQ for comp.fonts: Part II: Mac-specific Info
>
>1.2. Frequently requested fonts
>
>  Many fonts are available at various archives.  The king of Macintosh font
>  archives is mac.archive.umich.edu.  On mac.archive.umich.edu, the fonts
>  are located in the following folders:
>
>  /mac/system.extensions/font/type1
>               "             /type3
>               "             /truetype
>

Here it is... admitted to the world.  mac.archive.umich.edu >IS< the
KING major excellent boku cool font site for graphic designers anonymous
(like you and me).  
  
  
Our major source for fonts has been cut off, though...  and because
we have a habit (not sure if it's curable or incurable... good or bad?)
of preferring cool fonts, we hope that if you have access to
those pay-per-minute download services like Compu$erve, AOL or GEnie,
you can forward Mac type 1, type 3 and truetype fonts to 
our incoming directory at mac.archive.umich.edu.  We'll do our
best to get the fonts into the proper directories as fast as we can....
  
You can get on our frequent ftp'er mailing list by sending me mail
at "mac-recent-request@mac.archive.umich.edu"....

Do a good deed for the day and for society, send us fonts!


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From: ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Design advice: Optima & Bookman?
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:52:28 GMT
Organization: U of Saarbruecken, Dept. of Computational Linguistics

tpb21243@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (BRAUER ) writes:

>There's a book called TYPEStyle that is very good. Concerning Optima
>it suggests any on the following:
>   Activa, Baskerville, Bodini, Century Schoolbook, 
>   Bitstream Cooper, Dutch, ITC Galliard, ITC Garamond, Goudy Old Style,
>   Zapf Calligraphic, Zapf Ellipitical, and Zurich.

>Hope thuis help.

Not much, actually, cause the good book lists just about every variety of
font around. Zurich is Helvetica and Zapf Calligraphic (correct me if I'm
wrong) is Zapf Chancery. Why not include Juniper then?


     Ulrich Mayring
     volksdesign.

       - KRAWEHL, KRAWEHL! Taubtrueber Ginst am Usenhain! -
From: leichter@zodiac.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Re: font encoding morass
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:11:27 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University Department of Computer Science

In article <36855@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>, reh2@pine.circa.ufl.edu (Rodger
Hendricks) writes about the "mathematical boldface" articles in Unicode.
He lists:
> 	C (U+2102) -- complex numbers
| 	H (U+210D) -- quaternions, a.k.a. "Hamiltonians"
| 	N (U+2115) -- natural numbers
| 	P (U+2119) -- ????
| 	Q (U+211A) -- rational numbers
| 	R (U+211D) -- real numbers
| 	Z (U+2124) -- integers

Bold (or in many cases "doubled" - a common representation for C, for example,
is C with an extra horizontal bar) P usually stands for the projective line.
Where R^2 is 2-d Euclidean space, P^2 is 2-d projective space.  The notation
is quite common in certain areas of mathematics.  I've also seen it used for
polynomials - P^n is n'th degree polynomials over some object.  This latter
usage seems to be fairly rare.

| Unfortunately, it does not include a bold-faced "O" for the
| "Octonions" or "Cayley numbers".

I've never seen that, though it makes sense.  Even H (quaternions) is fairly
rare - though in both cases this is probably because these objects aren't all
that heavily studied these days.

The AMS created a set of extended math characters that, as I recall, included
"blackboard bold" versions of all the upper-case characters.  This was
probably the wise approach, as the set of accepted representations in this
form grown, albeit quite slowly, over the years.

|				    My point is, though, that these
| letters, when rendered in bold-face, have specific meanings:  in
| Mathematical contexts, they are not simply glyphic variants
| yielding "typographical richness", but genuinely different
| characters. 
| 
| 	Sorry to go on so about this, but future typographers
| need to understand this about the Mathematical characters: 
| they're not just there "for pretty."  They carry definite
| meanings.  It helps the author if they're available, it helps
| the reader even more if they're used.  
| 

Absolutely true.  It's also important to realize that the set of such
"special" characters is open-ended.  While it grows slowly, it DOES grow.

							-- Jerry
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
Subject: Re: Unicode and Fonts
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 05:52:08 GMT
Reply-To: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation

bkph@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn) writes:
> The problem I have is with imposing a UNICODE solution without making sure
> that operating systems and graphical user interfaces can cope with it.

My own major concern is a variation on this.  UNICODE's design criteria per 
se are not the problem--in fact, I am willing to accept UNICODE (or actually, 
ISO 10646) simply in order to encourage vendors (besides Apple :)) to build 
multinational-out-of-the-box systems and software.

However, one of the pervasive underlying assumptions that has evidently been 
made in the design of UNICODE is that such vendors will add sophisticated 
text rendering services on top of the UNICODE internal representation, and 
that such text handling subsystems will handle issues such as automatic 
ligature substitution, contextual forms in general, input methods, and so on.  
Originally, this even included data interchange, but it looks like ISO 10646 
will at least define that aspect, which is a help.

While this is not an unreasonable assumption in an ideal world, I fear that 
it is far too optimistic.  My own expectation is that the majority of vendors 
will supply a couple of UNICODE-encoded fonts and a minimal input method, and 
declare their systems "UNICODE-compliant."  Now, there will no doubt be a few 
(such as Apple, based on their track record so far) which will actually 
invest the effort in doing things right, but I am not optimistic about the 
majority.  UNICODE *will* be used as a font encoding, perhaps with ligatures 
stuck in some "private use" area, and we'll end up with a variation on the 
current situation (albeit with a much greater area of character code 
correspondence).

I may just be overly cynical, but I tend to be suspicious of standardization 
efforts which depend on the goodwill of everyone to go above and beyond what 
is mandated by the standard.  Minimal compliance is the norm.


Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation

Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: anti-alaised fonts
Organization: Clark University
Date: 28 AUG 92 15:28:22 GMT

In a previous article, wchow@questor.wimsey.bc.ca (William Chow) wrote:
> 
>I am doing a lot of video overlaying work.  Does anyone
>know or have a program or font that does overlaying with 
>anti-alaising? 
> 
> 
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> William Chow, chief coordinator, 2830 E. 8th Ave, Vancouver BC Canada V5M 1W9
>      Telephones:  [+1 604]  254-1833(w)  657-8275(cell)  253-4227(res)   .
>       <<  Providing understandable anime to the fandom it serves.  >>      

What platform are you on?  On a Mac, Macromedia Director, Photoshop and 
Premier (2.0) do anti-aliasing.  On a PC, IBM's AVC does it.  Don't know about 
Unix.

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From: goblin@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Star Trek font?
Date: 24 Aug 92 14:36:19 GMT
Reply-To: goblin@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: Center for Instructional and Research Computing Activities

In article <2410002@hplred.HP.COM>, yefchak@hplred.HP.COM (George Yefchak) writes:
>Several people have told me to look for the font "Crillee" on
>sumex-aim.stanford.edu, ftp.cica.indiana.edu, etc., etc., but
>I can't find a font under that name.  Is this the correct name
>for the S.T.N.G. font?
>--Thanks!
>George Yefchak  yefchak@hpl-spin.hpl.hp.com
>

First hit the mac directory; then the font directory; and furthermore, I think
the 'tt' directory; it is a true-type font, tho' I believe it comes with
bitmapped versions.  It's in .hqx format...

gg
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: toban@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jeff Zuk)
Subject: Re: Type One Fonts + Mac StyleWriter??
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:28:27 GMT

Mike_Dustan@sfu.ca (Mike Dustan) writes:
: In article <4228@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> Lester C Jacobson,
: lcjst2+@pitt.edu writes:
: >Does anyone out there have experience with the Macintosh StyleWriter
: (=thermal
: >inkjet printer) and Type One fonts? I'm running System 7.0.1 and have a
: number
: >of TrueType fonts, but I have some only in Type One and I'd rather not go
: >through the trouble of converting them.  
: >
: >Will Adobe Type Manager work to produce laser-printer quality output
: with such
: >a combination, or will I need to purchase something along the lines of
: >Freedom of the Press Lite?
: 
: ATM should work just fine. It gives laser-quality results on my HP
: DeskWriter C, so should do the same for the SW.
: Mike Dustan, Computing Services, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, BC
: Canada

I am sitting in front of a SW right now and I do know that it will not compre-
hend Adobe fonts, even with Type Manager. If I am wrong may the hard drive of 
my life bomb.  

C
hend Adobe fonts, even with Type Manager. If I am wrong, may I forever be 
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: pviton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (P A Viton)
Subject: TrueType question
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:32:24 GMT

When I use the Times New Roman font distributed with Windows 3.1 in 10 point 
size (this may also happen with other points, I don't know) the LEFT (open-) 
quote prints unpleasantly close to the next character.  Does anyone know how to
change this, and add a bit of white space between this character and the next 
one?

Any assistance gratefully received.    (I hope this isn't a FAQ)
-- 
-----------
Phil Viton
PViton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines)
Subject: Re: Remington
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:16:01 GMT

Harting, a shareware font available for Mac Type1/TT (?) is available at 
sumex-aim.stanford.edu or yak.css.itd.umich.edu is a typewriter font that looks
like it had a bad ribbon and the letters were off center.

sines
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From: walsh@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Font conversion for X
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:02:47 GMT
Reply-To: walsh@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst)

Since I've been working on parts of the FAQ, I wonder if someone would 
help me through the following hoops.  I promise that I'll write it up 
for the FAQ so no one else has to answer these questions again ;-)

How can one convert fonts of type XXX into fonts suitable for display
in X?  I can go from PostScript -> TeX PK easily enough.  I can probably
go from TeX PK to 'generic bitmap' format without too much trouble.  But
what format does X want and how do I get there?  Can I go directly from
PS to some scalable X format?

Clearly, I'm next to clueless about X fonts ;-)

                                            Thanks, in advance,
					      norm
From: walsh@cs.umass.edu (Norman Walsh)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: FAQ: Part V: Sun Info
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:35:07 GMT
Reply-To: walsh@cs.umass.edu
Organization: Dept of Comp and Info Sci, Univ of Mass (Amherst)

FAQ for comp.fonts: Part V: Sun-specific Info

Version 0.0.3, Release 04SEP92

Welcome to the comp.fonts FAQ.  This article, posted monthly, describes many
of the basic questions that seem to be repeated frequently on comp.fonts.
Your comments are both welcome and encouraged. 

The FAQ is divided into five parts posted seperately.  The parts are:

   Part   I: General Info
   Part  II: Macintosh-specific Info
   Part III: MS-DOS-specific Info
   Part  IV: *nix-specific Info
   Part   V: Sun-specific Info
   Part  VI: X-specific Info

The decision to divide the FAQ into multiple parts is somewhat arbitrary
although it stems, in part, from the fact that it would be too long to mail in
one piece anyway.  Even if you don't use a particular architecture, you may
find it helpful to read the FAQ for that platform at least once.  Some ideas,
like font format conversion, may be relevant to more than one platform even if
they are expressed in platform-specific tools at this time.

This section is divided into the following topics:

0.  Please help!

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

0. Please help!

  Someone mailed a file of Sun-related font tips.  Unfortunately, I cannot
  find the file.  If you have any suggestsion for this section (or if you
  are the person that mailed me the other list), please forward your
  suggestions to norm <walsh@cs.umass.edu>.

--END OF PART V--