From: lbarrass@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.religion
Subject: Re: Is evolution contrary to creation?
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:22:04 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article <9223810.12060@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, fraser@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fraser Wilson) writes:
> callum@bain3.bain.oz.au (Callum Gibson) writes:
> 
>>The Creation Science Foundation were the lot who I saw on Friday and Sunday.
>>They say that Evolution is just as much a religion as Christianity so that
>>it is not a case of religion vs science, but religion vs religion.
> 
> This seems to be a common claim made by creationists, and it is utterly
> false.  The evidence for evolution is not just good or compelling.  It is
> overwhelming.  And it's not just a bunch of old bones either.
  
  So you say.



> 
> As an aside, this does not in any way preclude God.  The theory of evolution
> says nothing about how the rate of beneficial mutation.  It is certainly
> possible that nothing would ever have happened to the primaeval soup without
> divine intervention.  I don't believe that, but who knows?
> 

 You are right, evo doesn't preclude God *BUT* it undermines His word, which
in the eyes of the unbeliever, is as good as excluding God.


[silly Darwin argument killed]


> 
> I'm sorry, but this is a tired old argument.  It comes down to "You know
> very little about the Universe, so you can't say that there isn't a God"
> The final statement, "Evolution is a fact" is quite true, it's as much
> a fact as many other things we take for granted.  I've heard the cry "Oh,
> but it's just a theory!"  Don't be taken in.  A theory in the scientific
> sense is as good a fact as you can get: theories such as Relativity and the
> Kinetic Theory of Gases are other such facts.
> 

  Isn't that rather a rash statement?? I can quote many senior evolutionists
that would disagree with you (I will have to go home to get it if you want
some).




> It is true that in the future evolution may turn out to be completely wrong.
> But only if a lot of things which we take for granted also turn out to be
> wrong.  Finding the general idea of evolution incorrect is like waking up in
> the morning to a green sky.
>
  Doesn't that destroy your previous argument?? A theory IS NOT a fact until it
can be completely proved beyond doubt for all relevant situations. If a theory
is only true for a subset, then you can't say it is true for the superset.


  eg.  Every time I see Jane she is carrying a blue bag
   Therefore Jane always carries a blue bag.

  OR .. Every person called Jane carries a blue bag 


    .... stupid isn't it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 


 
> That's enough for now.
> 
> Fraser.


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