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From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi channel
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:09:02 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <-403800@nemesis>, uhclem@nemesis.UUCP writes...
>Lionheart did a similar thing with Monty Python.  They gave a five-year
>nation-wide exclusive contract to MTV.  MTV showed them every twenty
>minutes for six months (edited, introduced, and with commercials)
>and finally stopped showing them.  But the five years have not expired

Minor nit, but the episodes of MPFC that I watched/taped on MTV were not cut,
nor were they interrupted by commercials. They did preceed each episode with an
animated warning, attempting to be in the Gilliam style, about the program to
follow. I don't object to the intro; it makes it easier to cue the tape.

Of course they may have hacked them about at other times (this was the Sunday
late pm timeslot).

Comedy Central are currently showing MPFC. I haven't bothered to verify whether
they are cut or not, but they are shown in a 30 minute time slot with NO ad
breaks.

gary
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.sf.science
From: fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Capt. Frank A. Lauro)
Subject: Re: Parallel Universes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:38:05 GMT

alberti@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Albatross) writes:


>Schroedinger's Cat is one example of different universes:  a cat is placed
>in a "black box" from which nothing can escape unless the box is opened.
>With the cat is a sample of radioactive iodine with a short half-life and
>a device which, upon detecting a radioactive emission from the iodine,
>releases a poison gas which kills the cat.  The box is closed and left
>closed for a time sufficient that the chance of such a radioactive emission
>is exactly 50/50.

>When the box is opened, two universes split off -- one in which the cat is
>dead, the other in which the cat is alive.  Quantum physicists like to point
>at the unopened box and crow that the box contains a cat which is exactly
>half-dead, but none of them are willing to get in the box in order to report
>precisely what being half-dead feels like.

For an ingenious twist on this theory, check out Peter Milligan's take 
on it -- Schroedinger's Pizza -- in his six-issue run of the ANIMAL MAN
comic book.  =)
--------
Captain Frank A. Lauro          Commanding Officer       University of Illinois
fal20643@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu       USS ALEXA NCC 1764-D     Urbana-Champaign
--------
"Dear God:  I really liked your book.  It had a lot of good stuff in it.
 But then, I've always liked science fiction."
 -- excerpt from CHILDREN'S LETTERS TO GOD
From: morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: channels
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:22:45 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Apr17.010202.29550@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, greg@cs.washington.edu (Greg Barnes) writes:
> In article <trent.05ow@termnet.chi.il.us> trent@termnet.chi.il.us (Brian Issleb) writes:
>>As you say, there are a lot of new readers who MAY NOT BE AWARE OF ALL THE
>>CAPABILITIES OF THE NET.  I don't consider it a mistake to post a message to
>>everyone when I had never gotten any information concerning the fact that I
>>could do otherwise.
> 
> All new users are supposed to read news.announce.newusers and the guides to
> net.etiquette, etc. contained therein.  The information is there.  Either
> you chose to ignore it, or the managers at your site did not make it clear
> when you were given access to Usenet that you should read this group.
> 

And there is also the case where you do not have a choice about 
distribution, which is the case with the news reader I currently use.  I 
suspect that these notes get sent out across the world.  When I did have 
access to another reader, I did limit my postings to the relavent parts of 
the world, now I do not have that ability.  

So relax folks, some people aren't aware of what their news readers do,
some are not able to control them.   

Siobahn (Shabang) Morgan
morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu

Here comes Peter Cottontail, hopping down the bunny trail.....
From: doc@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: _Warrior's Gate_ questions
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:19:29 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University

JMH131@psuvm.psu.edu writes:


> I haven't seen this adventure in quite awhile, and I wanted to know if anyone
> knows exactly why that realm with the tower and the spaceship and the TARDIS
> (of course) kept shrinking?  Did it have anything to do with recursion?  Also,
> entirely off topic, when you hear the word "recursion" said on Doctor Who, who
> is the first person on the program that comes to mind that said it?  --John.

The reason that the transistion zone kept shrinking is because of the
spaceship's Dwarf star alloy hull that weighed so much it was causing
the zone to shrink.
L8er,
Jeff
Romana: "I thought you said we were coming here for May week?"
Doctor: "I did, May week's in June."
	                **Shada and The Five Doctors**
        Jeffrey Smith   --KD4AYH--  doc@catt.ncsu.edu
From: marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: TBaker's Ego
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:58:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: yang.1992Apr14.205824.16979
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <retief.702756887@mchem3.al.iastate.edu>, retief@iastate.edu (Jim Miller) writes:
> )I seem to recall that TB agreed to do the 5 Doctors, but then changed
> )his mind because he didn't want to be just "one of the five."
> )Pissed me off.  Jeez what an ego.  So he let them use the two clips from
> )Shada instead.
> )--led hanklin
> 
> yeah, he wouldn't even show up for some publicity photos so they used
> a wax dummy of him from a museum with the other actors.
> 
> -- 
I heard that TB love the role so much, that he didn't want to resume it, because
he would only be reminded of what he was missing. Only Tom knows the real 
reason. He may have not wanted his version of the Doctor to be compared to 
the others for resons besides ego. Or then agian maybe he is stuck up. I'm 
not defending him, I just want to remind you that you don't have all the facts.
Tom Baker really put himself into the his role and I seem to remember 
hearing that he had an  argument with JNT. So their may may be quite a few 
reasons underlying Tom's descesion. Anyway, that doesn't change the fact 
that he was missed. The part Peter Davison played was writen for Tom 
Baker, and I can see why. Remember the bit with the Harp, where the key 
to the lock was the tune on the painting? Imagine Tom playing that role, 
the line "Right in front of my  face." was pure Baker.

---Marc Seebass (DR. Who #14)
From: ptrudell@lonestar.utsa.edu (Peter J. Trudell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Brian Blessed (was Re: Pertwee, etc.)
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:33:14 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


Actually, in the Flash Gordon film (with soundtrack by Queen, BTW) he was the
leader of the Hawkmen.  The character was Voltan.

--Pete
(.sig in the works)
-- 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: nick@sunburn.waterloo.edu (Nick Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: Tomb of the Cybermen
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:54:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.191053.6511@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff) writes:
>According to DWM 185, the BBC has said that if the Tomb of
>the Cybermen video sells at least 30,00 copies, they will make
>a complete effort to contact all stations which have shown 
>Doctor Who in order to try to find more lost episodes.  I'm
>rather annoyed by this.  Basically the BBC is trying to 
>extort Doctor Who fans into buying the video.
>
>My question is: How much does an average Doctor Who video sell?
>Presumably, Tomb of the Cybermen would sell more, since it is 
>a lost story, etc., but this would give some idea whether the 
>30,000 figure set by the BBC is "reasonable".
>
I can't see why Tomb of the Cyberman would sell much more than any other
Troughton or Hartnell video that has been released in the UK, I don't believe
that many of these have been shown on any TV station in the UK since the 
1960's, so whether it is lost, or not, is not as relevent in the UK, as it
is in Canada, or the USA, where we are endlessly bombarded with Doctor Who
repeats.

Nick
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: test
From: wft@math.canterbury.ac.nz (Bill Taylor)
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:36:06 +1200
Distribution: world
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Canterbury

just testing
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey)
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi channel
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 05:51:14 GMT

In article <-403800@nemesis> uhclem@nemesis.UUCP writes:
>I for one am very depressed that SFC is now in the hands of USA network.
>After watching the film 'The Blues Brothers' on USA that had been totally
>butchered (Ray Charles only appears in the credits, the entire music store
>and street dance was omitted, along with everything that happened in the
>jail at the start of the film that didn't have credits on top of it, plus
>other stuff), they keep the USA logo on the screen for a minute or so,

Oh God!  

Maybe we should all start writing RIGHT NOW!  In as few words as possible,
explain to these butchers that this is in NO WAY a "TYPICAL" audience.  No
doubt, the rabid loyalty of current fans is part of what they paid for when
they bought the series.  If they received a few hundred letters (or, better
yet, keep it brief enough to fit on a postcard) this early on saying
something like: (uh-hum)

  If you MUST break Dr Who up with commercials, you better schedule
  45 minutes or an hour for this "half hour" show, because if you
  cut ONE SECOND from ANYPLACE, including even the credits, I will
  never watch again and I will never share with my not-yet-fan
  friends and I will warn my friends who are fans.  By the way, I've
  seen each episode X times, I will notice ANY cuts.

I've got some postcards here, and can think of 4 or 5 people right off
who would write.  Suggestions as to WHO to send 'em to, anyone?

God!  I'd hate to see Dr Who go the way of MASH, Mary Tyler Moore, WKRP...

  Thanks awfully,
            Patrick
From: lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Companions adventures
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:45:26 GMT

In <1992Apr9.172920.18273@acsu.buffalo.edu> v116r8ac@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chris Nasipak) writes:

>Target books once began publishing a line entitled "The Companions of
>Doctor Who".  Does anyone know what happened to it?

>So far, I've seen two titles of it:
>Turlough and the Earthlink Dilemna - just plain wierd.
>Harry Sullivan's War - much better.  Some of that "Top Secret Work" the
>                       Brig referred to when the Doctor asked about Harry.

>Does anyone know if there are any more of these?

The line was discontinued when Target and WH Allen were bought out
by Virgin.  It wasn't much of a seller, anyway, so those were the
only two Companions books (unless you count K9 And Company).

Doctor Who - The New Adventures was the eventual replacement.

Loz
From: hermit@dastari.uucp (Mark Buda)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi channel
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:47:30 GMT
Organization: Competitive Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <-403800@nemesis> uhclem@nemesis.UUCP writes:
>[0]Rattletrap Exlaxia (Battlestar Galactica).  Finally they have rights
>[0]to Dr. Who, but which ones is not specified.
>According to the last info Lionheart gave my local PBS station,
>SFC only has rights to production codes A-ZZ, EXCLUDING MM.  On this
>they allegedly have a nation-wide exclusive, and have had it since
>1990.  
>
>Does anyone know of a US station that IS showing the Hartnells and
>Troughtons now?

MPT (Maryland Public Television) is showing the Hartnells, and will
apparently be showing the Troughtons after that. They didn't start
that long ago - I think they're showing The Web Planet this weekend.

>Lionheart did a similar thing with Monty Python.  They gave a five-year
>nation-wide exclusive contract to MTV.  MTV showed them every twenty
>minutes for six months (edited, introduced, and with commercials)
>and finally stopped showing them.  But the five years have not expired
>yet, so no one else in the US can get the rights.  PBS is having the
>same trouble with one or two shows that they showed and then A&E got
>a contract and now PBS stations can't get them back.

This I don't quite believe - the Comedy Channel had a listing for
Monty Python (this past weekend). I can't watch the Comedy Channel, so
that's all I know.

>I for one am very depressed that SFC is now in the hands of USA network.
>After watching the film 'The Blues Brothers' on USA that had been totally
>butchered (Ray Charles only appears in the credits, the entire music store
>and street dance was omitted, along with everything that happened in the
>jail at the start of the film that didn't have credits on top of it, plus
>other stuff), they keep the USA logo on the screen for a minute or so,
>and show it every five to ten minutes, and they insert lots of commercials.

Agreed - I watched "Blazing Saddles" for the first and only time on
USA. Tell me, during the scene when the cowboys are all sitting around
eating beans... wasn't there supposed to be some kind of sound
effect?... I could have sworn there was supposed to be some kind of
sound effect...

PBS is where British shows should be. Half-hour or hour-long shows
made without commercial breaks should be shown without commercial
breaks. Period. I cringe when I think of shows like Dr. Who, Blake's
7, Red Dwarf, Monty Python, Black Adder, and so on being mutilated on
these cable deals.

Blurg.
--
Mark Buda
"Here, with a compressed air drill, parsnips are harvested."
Organization: HAM - Hackers Against MUDs
X-Subliminal-Message: IBM/370 assembler is your friend.
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 19:19:40 EDT
From: <JMH131@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: _Warrior's Gate_ questions

 I haven't seen this adventure in quite awhile, and I wanted to know if anyone
 knows exactly why that realm with the tower and the spaceship and the TARDIS
 (of course) kept shrinking?  Did it have anything to do with recursion?  Also,
 entirely off topic, when you hear the word "recursion" said on Doctor Who, who
 is the first person on the program that comes to mind that said it?  --John.
From: norbeck@castor.cs.bucknell.edu (nancy norbeck `93)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Sci-Fi Channel
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:49:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.

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In article <-403800@nemesis> uhclem@nemesis.UUCP writes:
>

>Does anyone know of a US station that IS showing the Hartnells and
>Troughtons now?  This might indicate that the exclusiveness has timed-out,
>or may only indicate that the given station had secured the rights
>long ago and haven't renegotiated in at least two years.  The local PBS
>station did not know how long the exclusive-rights were for on these, but
>subsequently they have been unable to reshow the early stories and had
>planned to do so when they reached the end of McCoy recently.


When I was home on spring break two weeks ago Maryland Public
Television was showing the Hartnells, specifically The Dalek Master
Plan and The Rescue, in the two weeks I was at home.  I know the
series is MPT's MAJOR moneymaker, and they've always been especially
good to the fans of the show.  I think they've also been responsible
for making some of the specials that come on every so often, and have
also sponsored conventions and the like.  

When MPT stops showing the Doctor, we might as well get ready for him to
disappear completely off PBS, as has already happened in so many places.



>Frank Durda IV <uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org>|"This won't do at all.

 


Nancy Norbeck

--
	"You'd think they'd dust this [food] before they serve it."
			--Hawkeye Pierce
		  "And remove all the flavor?"
			--Father Mulcahey
From: norbeck@castor.cs.bucknell.edu (nancy norbeck `93)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Doctor Who : When & Where?
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:13:24 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.



In article <sdvNl=600VpNATWkxb@andrew.cmu.edu> rk3h+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert J. Knapp) writes:
>>Now I have a question, what is his "secret" that she talked about?
>>(The one the Nemesis told her) A friend of mine(Hi Ramon) once said he
>>thought that the Doc. was Rasalon, hmmmm.....
>
>>			brian (thats all)
>
>
>I agree fully, I have been playing with that idea since I saw (and read)
>the "Invasion Of Time" storyline.  The man seems to know to much for
>some one who did so bad in the academy.


Well, not to be picky or anything, but there are plenty of people out
there who either never got degrees or did pretty badly in school, but
are totally brilliant.  One that pops to mind right away is Erik
Erikson, the psychoanalyst who had no degree at all but came up with
some pretty brilliant, long-lasting, insightful additions to the field
of psychology which are generally accepted.

Besides which there are things like street-smarts and other things.
Or just things you pick up as you need them (I'd never even heard of
Unix when I got to school, but I've picked up a lot of stuff about it
since I got here, for example).  Keep in mind the Doc's got several
*hundred* years of that sort of "learning-as-you-go-along" kind of
experience to draw on...you'd know a lot of things by then too.


Nancy Norbeck

--
|Nancy Norbeck       | "I know that look."  "What look?"  "The look that says |
|....................|  you're going to be impetuous, vengeful, irresponsible,|
|norbeck@bucknell.edu|  and *stupid*" --Lady Jane and Lovejoy, "Death and     |
|....................|     Venice"                                            |
From: jbradsha@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Ace/Sophie Aldred Fans...
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:47:33 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Any Ace/Sophie fans around this net?  If so, I'm looking for any collectables.
Anyone have any addresses etc should mail me or post!

Thanks

-- 
 Jonathan Bradshaw | jbradsha@mentor.cc.purdue.edu | pbradsha@darwin.cc.nd.edu
 Purdue University | WNDU-AM/FM/TV South Bend, IN  | Forsythe Computers,  Inc.
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 14:24:10 EDT
From: JUDITH R. BELSON <JRB128@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: What I'd like in a new series

          This hasn't been brought up for a while (At least that I've
  noticed) but if and when a new series of Doctor Who is produced, I'd
  really enjoy seeing a darker, more foreboding, type of show. Much like
  the show was in the early to mid Baker years, before the show was stripped
  of nearly all its horror content. I'd also really enjoy seeing a
  Pertwee / Davison type of Doctor. Although my fav. Doctor is Tom
  Baker, I think that McCoy injected too much humor into the part and it
  is time to go in the opposite direction in terms of a comical Doctor.
  Not to say that all humor should be removed, just that the sillyness of
  the past few seasons be lessened considerably.
         One thing that would annoy me greatly about the new season, would
  be if the show was placed in the Hour Long, One Episode Per StoryLine
  category. This would surely KILL the show. Star Trek:TNG is hurt by this
  formate every week, in that everything has to be wrapped up in an hour.
  I'd personally be glad if the show were allowed any number of episodes
  per storyline. I love seeing storylines like Black Orchid(two episodes)
  as well as stories such as The War Games(ten eps) and The Seeds of Doom
  (6 eps). Those last two stories would be impossible with Star Trek and,
  sadly, now with Doctor Who; since current seasons consist of only 14 eps.
        Recap on what I would like:
                  1) Darker show, bring back horror.
                  2) New Doctor is more serious.
                  3) Bring back full seasons
                  4) Keep multipart stories
                  5) Tone down, if not eliminate, silly humor


    ****Anybody want to add anything to the list?*****
                  Remove Something?  Please comment.


        ---Just someone a'wishin for a world with the Doc.
From: keeper@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us (Ron O'Dell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Brian Blessed (was Re: Pertwee, etc.)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 04:03:21 GMT
Organization: The Armory

In article <1992Apr10.210946.8578@src.honeywell.com> ema@cfsmo.honeywell.com writes:
>Brian Blessed played RobinHood's father (short role) in "RobinHood:
>Prince of Thieves" (Kevin Costner version). He played King Richard in
>the first season of "The Black Adder". Does anyone remember that really
>bad SF "B" movie he was in that I think was a version of Flash Gordon, where
>Flash is a football star? Very bad. He was king of the monkey people (yes,
>like in Oz). 

The Flash Gordon film I saw him in, by accident when turning round the
TV channels, had him as the leader of some winged warrior race.  It
was a classic Blessed character.  At some point (I caught it only in the
final 15 minutes) Flash goes off to fight some people during a battle,
and Blessed's character says something like "Silly boy!  Ah, well,
you only live once!" does his standard laugh, and joins the fray.
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