HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Richard.Darton@vuw.ac.nz (Richard Darton)
Subject: Surplus Micom and Datacraft gear for sale
Organization: CSC, Victoria University Wellington
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:15:00 GMT

Hi,

I have the following old Micom and Datacraft gear that I want to dispose of. 
Any interest should be brought to my attention by Friday 5 February.

     1) Micom 800/21 8-channel cards        - 2 off
     2) Micom 800/21 COM cards              - 2 off

     3) Micom 600 4-line-II RS232 410 cards - @140 off
     4) Micom 600 scan cards                - 12 off

     5) Micom PSU units                     - 5 off
     6) Misc Micom cards                    
     7) Micom 19" card bays for above Micom cards - 5 off

     8) Datacraft M824 MUX units            - 3 off
     9) Datacraft M828 MUX units            - 2 off
    10) Datacraft M814 units                - 2 off

Cheers


RAD
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Newsgroups: nz.wanted
From: dean@inform.co.nz (Dean Roberts)
Subject: Re: Architect information
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:39:57 GMT
Organization: InForm Group Ltd.

In article <wPi1XB2w165w@status.gen.nz>, jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
> gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington) writes:
> 
> > jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
> > 
> > > Can someone point me to a list of existing Architects and firms in NZL
> > 
> > The yellow pages.
> > 
> > Nat
> 
>  
>  I thought of this Nat but putting them into a database Nationwide would
>  take some time and effort (this is a request for friend who has not 
>  computer knowledge) and one I do not relish.
>  
>  Do the Yellow pages have a CD-Rom out here in NZ?
> 


Tuesday mornings InfoTech Weekly in the Domminion had an article saying that
the Yellow Pages will some be coming out electronically.  Whether that is CD 
ROM or a bunch of floppies, I'm not sure.


Cheers.

Dean Roberts
InForm Group Ltd.
(04) 4720-996
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: Architect information
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:52:43 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

Hi,
 
Can someone point me to a list of existing Architects and firms in NZL
or where I can download/ftp such information for New Zealand ?
 
regards


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Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: Re: Architect information
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:45:07 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington) writes:

> jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
> 
> > Can someone point me to a list of existing Architects and firms in NZL
> 
> The yellow pages.
> 
> Nat

 
 I thought of this Nat but putting them into a database Nationwide would
 take some time and effort (this is a request for friend who has not 
 computer knowledge) and one I do not relish.
 
 Do the Yellow pages have a CD-Rom out here in NZ?


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Subject: Re: Architect information
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:12:04 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

dean@inform.co.nz (Dean Roberts) writes:
> Tuesday mornings InfoTech Weekly in the Domminion had an article saying that
> the Yellow Pages will some be coming out electronically.  Whether that is CD 
> ROM or a bunch of floppies, I'm not sure.
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There speaks someone who has never seen the Yellow Pages in electronic
form.

"A bunch of floppies" doesn't begin to describe the size of the Yellow
Pages.

"Several hundred floppies" is getting a little closer.

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From: phys2236@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: Good stereo system wanted
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:27:13 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

WANTED:

High quality audio gear,

e.g. Luxman, Perraux amps
Nakamishi, Pioneer (good ones) CD players
Wharfdale, Infinity, speakers, 

etc.

I'm trying to set up a good system, and don't really have the time to make
the amps, and I don't think I'd be too successful building a CD player.

So if you're trying to ditch some of your audio gear for an update, or whatever
please post back.

I'm really after the amp, speakers, CD player, but pre-amps, tape decks, and
even a good turntable also considered.

Dale Carnegie
Phys2236@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: nz.wanted
Subject: Re: Architect information
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 21:53:32 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

dean@inform.co.nz (Dean Roberts) writes:

> In article <wPi1XB2w165w@status.gen.nz>, jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writ
> > gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington) writes:
> > 
> > > jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
> > > 
> > > > Can someone point me to a list of existing Architects and firms in NZL
> > > 
> > > The yellow pages.
> > > 
> > > Nat
> > 
> >  
> >  I thought of this Nat but putting them into a database Nationwide would
> >  take some time and effort (this is a request for friend who has not 
> >  computer knowledge) and one I do not relish.
> >  
> >  Do the Yellow pages have a CD-Rom out here in NZ?
> > 
> 
> 
> Tuesday mornings InfoTech Weekly in the Domminion had an article saying that
> the Yellow Pages will some be coming out electronically.  Whether that is CD 
> ROM or a bunch of floppies, I'm not sure.
 
 Thanks for this, being off work for a month I miss things like info-tech
 weekly from the Dominon, but I get my copy on Monday in Auckland (grin)


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From: john@actrix.gen.nz (John Vorstermans)
Subject: Re: Architect information
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:00:52 GMT

In article <JeDZXB3w165w@status.gen.nz> jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
> Hi,
>  
> Can someone point me to a list of existing Architects and firms in NZL
> or where I can download/ftp such information for New Zealand ?

Try the Phonebook.
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Massey's world-class News system (was: Re: Kaypro 10  boot disk)
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 11:22:59 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:

> Nick FitzGerald <n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> writes:
> 
> > Interesting that -- so far the only Massey-ites who have chipped in have
> > been from outside Computing Services.
> 
> Probably because the CS staff couldn't see any benefit in replying to such
> petulant childishness.
 
 Well from your comments to Nick here I suspect you are more guilty of
 this than the Comp Sci at Massey.


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Subject: Re: Massey's world-class News system (was: Re: Kaypro 10  boot disk)
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:11:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
> gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington) writes:
> > > non-compliant.
> > 
> > RFC 1036 (Usenet messages):
> > 
> > |2.1.1.  From
> > |
> > |    The "From" line contains the electronic mailing address of the
> > |    person who sent the message, in the Internet syntax

> Nice try Nat, but in the case of the section from RFC1036 it's easily argued
> that news@massey... *is* the person who sent the message (after all, at some
> point in the news process Massey's system thinks it is, hence the from line).

Oh, that's interesting.  Does this mean that the Massey guys have ported Cnews
to the human brain?  "Person" in the context of Internet RFCs is usually 
quite specific about meaning "living breathing human being" where this is
applicable.  The userid a piece of transport software runs on doesn't 
qualify.  


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Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Massey's world-class News system (was: Re: Kaypro 10  boot disk)
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 10:29:49 GMT
Organization: The Cserver at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, PC Software Consultant, CSC, UoC, writes:

> >>P.S.  I sure hope the Massey news system doesn't let them post to world-
> >>distributed groups!
> > 
> > It does,
> 
> Then I re-double my call for Massey to fix their broken system!
> 
> > I hope the people responsible for the Canterbury gondola aren't 
> > allowed to build any more!
> 
> Ditto.   8-)
> 
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>  Nick FitzGerald, PC Applications Consultant, CSC, Uni of Canterbury, N.Z.
>  n.fitzgerald@csc.canterbury.ac.nz  TEL:+64(3)364 2337, FAX:+64(3)364 2332

 Well said Nick.  I for one agree with your sentiments as I am sure do
 all other sysadmins in New Zealand.


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From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Massey's world-class News system (was: Re: Kaypro 10  boot disk)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 06:51:44 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington) writes:

> Craig (kilroy ...) writes:
> 
> > BTW, you also said something about how Extremely Wicked it is that Massey's
> > news system doesn't conform to all the relevant guidelines. Quote me a single
> > (current) RFC that says that any message emitted from Massey is
> > non-compliant.
> 
> RFC 1036 (Usenet messages):
> 
> |2.1.1.  From
> |
> |    The "From" line contains the electronic mailing address of the
> |    person who sent the message, in the Internet syntax
> 
> RFC 822 (Internet text messages):
> 
> |6.2.2
> |	[...]
> |        When a message crosses a domain boundary, all  addresses  must
> |        be  specified  in  the  full format, ending with the top-level
> |        name-domain in the right-most field.  It is the responsibility
> |        of  mail  forwarding services to ensure that addresses conform
> |        with this requirement.  In the case of abbreviated  addresses,
> |        the  relaying  service must make the necessary expansions.

Nice try Nat, but in the case of the section from RFC1036 it's easily argued
that news@massey... *is* the person who sent the message (after all, at some
point in the news process Massey's system thinks it is, hence the from line).
And I'm still trying to figure out the relevance of the RFC822 quote. It's
entirely possible there isn't any.

So all we've established is what I said in the first place. Massey's articles
may be inconvenient and annoying, but they're hardly illegal (in the Usenet
sense).

						- k
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Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Massey's world-class News system (was: Re: Kaypro 10  boot disk)
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 10:20:26 GMT
Organization: The Cserver at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:

> In article <1993Jan20.195001.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> cctr132@csc.canterbury.a
> 
> >My apologies in advance, but public incompetence really gets up my nose.
> 
> >I know we thrashed this around before Xmas, but will the people who are
> >-irresponsible- for the Massey non-News system at least have the decency
> >to inform their users that they are unable to adequately configure the
> >system as regards sending out useful return addresses, so the poor sods
> >trying to use the system have a chance of getting some half-decent use
> 
> I was informed!
> 
 
                (bytes deleted)

> 
> I don't understand why you have to have the Email address here if your 
> system works so well. But then I'm only a user who finds having access to 
> any News service useful.
 
 Simple, for systems who do not supply all the header lines in their
 news readers. But this comment has nothing to do with YOUR broken
 mailer.
 
> 
> >P.S.  I sure hope the Massey news system doesn't let them post to world-
> >distributed groups!
> 
> It does, I hope the people responsible for the Canterbury gondola aren't 
> allowed to build any more!
> 
> Bye Sid.
> 
> AKA Mr USENET news system (I get so many replies like this anyway)
> For best reply please use either:-
> 
> NEWS@massey.ac.nz     or     hrpsdj@pnv.palm.cri.
> nz

 I posted email to you Sid, as per your FROM: address. have you got it
 yet ?  I suspect not..


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Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Massey's world-class News system (was: Re: Kaypro 10  boot disk)
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 11:00:24 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, PC Software Consultant, CSC, UoC, writes:

 
                     (oh dear 67 lines deleted)
 
> Interesting that -- so far the only Massey-ites who have chipped in have
> been from outside Computing Services.
> 
 
 I agree with you Nick, but hey Craig is an active flamer and you are
 his practise for the new year.  Also being one of the Massey remote
 users he will defend them to death, right or WRONG.
 
 Craig, listen to Nick and the others , The Massey system is Brain dead
 for the internal users. Your system Craig works fine so compare the two,
 maybe you could teach them someting.
 
 Nick do their computing services read this news.group?


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From: banksie@khantazi.welly.gen.nz (Philip R. Banks)
Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Massey's world-class News system (was: Re: Kaypro 10  boot disk)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:19:30 +1300
Reply-To: banks_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: My Arc.

cctr132@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Nick FitzGerald, PC Software Consultant, CSC, UoC, NZ) writes:
[bits deleted]
> Funny thing is, people I talk to who claim to have met Andy "in the
> flesh", seem to think he's quite a decent sort of chap.

   This surely would lead you to surmise two things :-

a) Andy *is* a 'decent chap' as that many people can't all be wrong. (And
yes I have met him in person before you ask)

b) That Andy doesn't suffer fools gladly. And I can't say I blame him.

   As for the signature war? Well personally last time I looked at the
guide-lines signatures no longer than six lines were considered acceptable.
I personally prefer having a signature for a few reasons that are of no
concern here. As long as my signature falls within the guidelines of
'netiquette' I see no reason not to have one.

    Philip

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Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Kaypro 10  boot disk
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:58:12 GMT
Organization: The Cserver at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:

> Help please:
> 	I have a kaypro 10 with a brain dead hard drive... all that is wrong
> 	with the darn thing is that the bios (BDOS,CCP) has been corrupted
> 	can ****ANYONE***** supply a bootable floppy so I can reinstall
> 	the CPM onto the harddrive... I got the thing with NO floppies etc
> 	
> Thanks in advance

 Well we would love to email you but you have a broken From: address


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Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Massey's world-class News system (was: Re: Kaypro 10  boot disk)
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 11:13:48 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:

> Nice try Nat, but in the case of the section from RFC1036 it's easily argued
> that news@massey... *is* the person who sent the message (after all, at some
> point in the news process Massey's system thinks it is, hence the from line).
> And I'm still trying to figure out the relevance of the RFC822 quote. It's
> entirely possible there isn't any.
 
 Imagine if the From: line at Massey went a step further and replaced 
 kilroy@acme.gen.nz with news@massey.ac.nz who you not be concerned as 
 this would not be within the confines of RFC822, same as does currently
 apply to the Nats quote.
 
 Do not nit pick for the sake of it Craig. Remember how you ridgidly 
 stick to the RFC's when it comes to Mr Bruce Becker. If you showed
 the same kind of leighway as you do here to Nat you would not have
 the problems with Mr Becker and all your forged rmgroups.
 
 Food for thought.
> 
> So all we've established is what I said in the first place. Massey's articles
> may be inconvenient and annoying, but they're hardly illegal (in the Usenet
> sense).
> 
> 						- k
> -- 
> Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 355134
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Newsgroups: nz.comp
Subject: Re: Massey's world-class News system, fixed?
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 11:08:22 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

N.Perry@massey.ac.nz (Nigel Perry) writes:

> I posted a news article earlier today (to some other news group) and I'm
> sure it had my name on it... Maybe they've fixed the problem? The
> previous article was posted using Pnews from a Unix box, this is going
> out from my news reader (vn) - both use NNTP I believe.
> 
> Well is it fixed, or was it a "glitch" earlier today?
 Congradulations Nigel you have a proper From: header.
 
 The wonders of modern Comp Sci never cease to amase a poor .gen sysadmin 
like me.


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From: harvey@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: nz.archives
Subject: re: os2.1b (Should U update)
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:52:17 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Well from my limited testing of 2.1 as compared to 2.0. It is almost
unbreakable (some small bugs). The windows performance is nothing short of
amazing. The migrate applications tool appears to be fixed (was buggy). Boot up
is faster than before (but not by much). Has a new setting for DOS applications
to allow you to specify and run unique autoexec.bats for each VDM. Runs a lot
better on a 6 meg machine (no access to a 4 meg one alothough people are
reporting that it is _much_ better). Swap file does not seam to grow as fast as
before and very quickly settles back to 4megs (I have seen 7Megs now and 16Megs
pre 2.1). Support for Trident, Et4000, ATI cards is now there + others I
believe.

Minuses 

Still slow scrolling. Doesn't always redraw screen corectly. Find in General
(relating to changing the icon) is broken.

Thats about all I have found so far 24 Hours. But I'll keep trying to break
things and really push it.

Also can some other people test this for me. If you are running 2.0GA and/or
CSD or 2.1. Open and leave running at least 26 applications (any type
Games,utils,applications,folders) This caused a repeatable crash with my
machine pre 2.1b so I'd like to see if it was a bug.

Thanks Mark Harvey