HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jamison@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Jamie Gulden)
Subject: Re: NCSA Telnet problems--HELP!
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:43:06 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <matt-210193101157@wardmac2.med.yale.edu> matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy) writes:
>We have been having some really *weird* problems with NCSA Telnet
>2.5 connecting to a Silicon Graphics workstation.  They went away
>for a couple of months but now they seem to be coming back...
>
>1. THE PHYSICAL NETWORK IS ABSOLUTELY OK:

I could also panic fault an indigo (4.0.5) every time I tried to
ftp files from a mac.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: fisher@ncselxsi.uucp (Chuck Fisher)
Subject: Re: PSI POWERMODEM IV INITIALIZATION STRING ?
Organization: National Computer Systems, San Jose, CA 95131
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:50:46 GMT

In article <9301271037.AA16224@nestroy.wu-wien.ac.at> sinkovics@wu-wien.ac.at (Rudolf R. Sinkovics) writes:
>Can anybody tell me the best initialization string for a PSI Powermodem IV ?
>I want to set up a terminal connection and a slip connection.
>Currently I am using:
>ATE1V1
>
>but I am not really sure whether this is a good thing.

That's a start, but you have to provide more information about the
connections before I can provide you with and explicit recommendation.

I have my PowerModem IV set up with two profiles: one for high speed,
error-correcting connections, the other for slower speed, non-ARQ
modems.  In order to switch, I just do an "AT Z0" or "AT Z1".  You
should start by setting whatever parameters you need and then writing
the profile to NVRAM via an "AT &Wn" command.  I could provide you
with my settings, but don't know if they would be compatible with your
situation.

-- 
Chuck Fisher                                        (800) 359-7997 Work
ncselxsi system administrator                       (415) 964-2819 Home
uucp:  ...!netcom!ncselxsi!fisher
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From: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: uAccess 1.62
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:34:11 EST
Organization: ICE Engineering, Inc.
Reply-To: time@ice.com (Tim Endres)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v2

The reason we have UNIX, Mac, DOS, Windows, etc. is because each
person has their own individual skills and tastes. There are
people out their who want to do USENET on there Macintosh, in a 
familiar environment. Otherwise, uAccess would not sell as well
as it has.

I prefer to "work" under UNIX, but I prefer editing source and 
composing documents on the Mac. And I prefer uAccess over any other
mail/news environment. I don't use DOS/Windows. I like having choices.

In article <C1GCw0.9v9@servalan.servalan.com> (comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc), rmtodd@servalan.servalan.com (Richard Todd) writes:
> >person I've run into who'd evidently rather run UNIX-style UUCP/mail/news on 
> >a Macintosh than run a native Mac application with a Mac user interface.
> >Not to mention the difference in disk space requirements :)...
> 
> Well, given that I've been running UNIX-style UUCP/mail/news on a Mac about
> as long as it's been possible to do so, I'd have to disagree.  Some of us
> just prefer the Unix-style programs such as "mush" or "nn".  Not to mention
> other neat goodies like "deliver": having mail automatically sent to one
> of several folders, or having messages from your favorite mailing lists 
> automatically gatewayed into local newsgroups, all done under a shell
> script under your control.  Plus, as others have mentioned, all the new
> stuff like MIME etc. is coming out first for Unix, and only later seems
> to make it to the MSDOS/MacOS worlds.  

BTW: uAccess has "deliver" built in via XCMDs and will support
     tcl scripting via "deliver" in the next release.

tim.


tim endres - time@ice.com  (UUCP: heifetz!tbomb!time)

USENET - a slow moving self parody... ph
From: woodburj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (John L Woodburn )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: How do I get the new Supra ROMs?
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:51:15 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

In article <C1Ipxt.HD3@news2.cis.umn.edu> oelt0002@student.tc.umn.edu (Bret Oeltjen) writes:
>I bought a Supra 14.4 this fall, and sent in the registration,
>but have not received the offer to upgrade the ROMs.  How can
>I do this, or get in touch with Supra?

    Well, here is the info you were looking for.  This comes off the back page
of the small paper booklet that came with the ROM upgrades:

	Supra Corporation Technical Support
	(Monday-Friday, 8 a.m. - 5 p.m. PST)
	  IBM DOS	503-967-2490
	  IBM Windows	503-967-2491
	  Macintosh	503-967-2492
	  All Other	503-967-2440

	Also available by BBS, fax, or mail at:
	  BBS		503-967-2444
	  FAX		503-967-2401
	  MAIL		7101 Supra Drive SW
			Albany, OR 97321 USA

    I briefly glanced through the manual for an 800 number, but to no avail.
Hopefully the folks at tech support will be able to help.  Good luck.

Woodrow
>
>Thanks,
>Bret Oeltjen
>University of Minnesota


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.apps,aus.mac
From: glb@yarra.pyramid.com.au (George Budahazy)
Subject: Multigate Problem?
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Help!!
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp PL, Melb., Australia
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:30:09 GMT


Hi,

I have a problem that last Friday our appletalk server stopped. It began with
the printing stopping. After looking at all the usual Mac stuff, it turned out
that the daemon aufs and lwsrvr stop working about 5 sec after they are 
started.

I am asured that nothing has changed on the host and the diags on the Multigate
pass without error. The diag utility atistest also fails. A sample log of
atistest and aufs.yarra log is below.

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Regards George

      -m-------   George Budahazy - Victorian Engineering Manager
    ---mmm-----   Pyramid Technology Corporation Pty. Ltd.  fax  +61 3 525 1730
  -----mmmmm---   1st Floor, 553 St. Kilda Road             tel. +61 3 521 3799
 ------mmmmmm--   Melbourne, Victoria, 3004       AUSTRALIA       (03) 521 3799
-------mmmmmmm-   Email Address: glb@yarra.pyramid.com.au


*************************Atistest Output**************************************
CAP distribution 6.00 using UDP encapsulation, January 1991
Copyright (c) 1986,1987,1988 by The Trustees of Columbia University in the City
of New York

abInit: [ddp:  15.216, 1] starting
debugging NBP
Registering "atis test:testing@*"
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 4 tick timeout on -1072906780, 3 remain
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 4 tick timeout on -1072906780, 2 remain
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 4 tick timeout on -1072906780, 1 remain
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 4 tick timeout on -1072906780, 0 remain
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 4 tick timeout on -1072906780, 3 remain
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 4 tick timeout on -1072906780, 2 remain
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 4 tick timeout on -1072906780, 1 remain
NBP SndNBP: sending
NBP nbp_timeout: 4 tick timeout on -1072906780, 0 remain
nbp register error because: couldn't register name - is atis running?

************************Aufs.yarra Log**********************

08:01:57 01/26/93  SrvrRegister for yarra failed...
08:05:46 01/26/93  ****************************************
08:05:46 01/26/93  Apple Unix File Server (yarra:AFPServer@*) starting
08:05:46 01/26/93  Aufs version: 3(4) as of  Sat Feb 16 17:30:14 EST 1991 
08:05:46 01/26/93  Aufs: no such system volumes file /usr/local/lib/cap/afpvols
08:05:46 01/26/93  20 sessions allowed
08:05:46 01/26/93  CONFIGURATION
08:05:46 01/26/93   Configured: FLOCK
08:05:46 01/26/93   Configured: Volume space information: statfs
08:05:46 01/26/93   Configured: SUN quota system
08:05:46 01/26/93   Configured translation tables are:
08:05:46 01/26/93    ascii: xlate on: suffix <any> and file type TEXT, creator unix
08:05:58 01/26/93  SrvrRegister for yarra failed...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: oueichek@gram (Ibaa Oueichek)
Subject: Re: Hardware handshaking on a Plus? 
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:44:10 GMT

STEELE MARK A (steelem@rintintin.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
: Does anybody know if a Mac Plus is capable of supporting a modem that
: requires hardware handshaking? Specifically the Zoom V.32bis 14.4 fax-
: modem.  I believe this topic was discussed previously, and now that I
: would like that info I can't go back and get it. Sorry.
 I know that the Serial controller of the Plus can do that. If i remember
 well, there's such a detail in the Inside Mac vol4 which speaks about the
 Mac+ and the SE. It should be able to do it, but don't forget to get a
 cable which has the hardware handshaked signals wired.
: 
: -Mark
: 

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: wang_dj@hull.cs.jhu.edu (David J. Wang)
Subject: afs -- what is it?
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.misc, comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:50:54 GMT


In recent logons to the the ftp server at umich, I have noticed the note about
access through 'afs'.  Try as I might, I cannot seem to find anyone who can
explain what it is.  Any explanations would greatly be appreciated.

Thank you.
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
David J. Wang                                    CAUTION!
wang_dj@server.cs.jhu.edu                SPACE UNDER CONSTRUCTION!
_______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: bmor@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Brad Morris)
Subject: Re: TCP connection via ARA? Possible?
Reply-To: bmor@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:55:49 GMT

In article <todd.strauch-270193065333@no-name-medadmin.med.umich.edu> todd.strauch@med.umich.edu (Todd R Strauch) writes:
>> I'm trying to connect a remote Macintosh to an EtherNet network via an ARA
>> connection. Not that difficult, just dial in, right? The problem is that I
>> need to run MacTCP applications from the remote Mac.
>> 
>> Has anyone done this? Is it possible?
>> 
>It's possible.  Find yourself a zone that contains a Shiva FastPath or
>other such device.  Within MacTCP, set your LocalTalk zone to the zone with
>the FastPath.  If the FastPath has some available IP addresses it can
>dynamically assign, you're all set.  Just launch your IP applications. 
>MacTCP will attach to the FastPath and obtain the required IP address on
>the fly.

One addition here.  In order for you to get a dynamic address from a FastPath
from Ethernet you need to configure the FastPath differently (note that
FastPaths normally only give dynamic addresses to Localtalk machines).  Talk
to a network administrator before you try this at home!

Brad Morris
b-morris@uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: simsh@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Hillel Y. Sims)
Subject: What exactly is PPP?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:57:06 GMT

Subject says it. I have SLIP, and am wondering, what's the difference? Is one
better than the other? If this is in the faq, just let me know, I haven't
seen it recently. Thanks everyone.

-- 
Hillel Sims            Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
simsh@rpi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: rhn@netcom.com (Ron Nicholson)
Subject: pocket modem recommendations?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:40:32 GMT

Can anyone recommend an external pocket modem for a Macintosh powerbook.
I'm looking for a 9600 data/9600 fax modem that I can use both with the
powerbook while traveling and with a desktop Mac.
---
Ronald H. Nicholson, Jr.	Sigma Designs, Fremont, CA
rhn@netcom.com, rhn@sigm.com	(510) 770-0100 x2985
N6YWU
-- 
Ronald H. Nicholson, Jr.	Sigma Designs, Fremont, CA
rhn@netcom.com, rhn@sigm.com	(510) 770-0100 x2985
N6YWU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: John Andrusiak <umandru1@umanitoba.ca>
Subject: Eudora Problem
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78A29231E017214@umandppp.dial.umanitoba.ca>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:32:51 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 05:32:27 GMT

I've been having a few problems with Eudora, and I've been wondering if
anyone can shed light on the problems.

The problem is when I attempt to check for new mail, while there is mail
in the queue ready to be sent. Eudora will attempt to post the outgoing
mail first. The problem comes when it attempts to switch from sendmail to
POP. Eudora often gets hung on an RSET command. This occurs both when I'm
using it over MacTCP and with the Comm Toolbox. Does anyone have an idea
why this might be happening?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Z-modem...
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: An Ol Ag surrounded by a bunch of unfriendly Seminoles
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:57:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.171734.15407@cst02.segin.com>, michel@cst02.segin.com
(Michel Pollet) wrote:
> 
> stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
> >Richard Thomas writes
> 
> >> Could someone please give me the Z-modem protocol? By
> 
> >This is what archie told me about zmodem:
> 	
> 	Well that's really helpfull James !!! How does he do the porting
> 	of the unix packages we see in those 1728178e10 lines from archie ?
> 	That guy is'nt a programmer. I am a UNIX programmer, and a mac
> 	developper for many years, and I just had the gut at looking at 
> 	the source of zmodem. I'ts pretty awfull !
> 	Mine works after 3 days of HARD work, I don't think it's a good idea
> 	to start without knowing what it's all about.

I didn't make a judgement about his programming ability, the 
readability of the code, the suitability of the information,
or, for that matter, attempting to divine the correct path he
should be taking to solve his problem. I merely provided information 
that may or may not answer his question.

Do you have a problem with that?
 	
Or must I include a f'ing disclaimer? 

James

f'ing disclaimer:

The information content of this post is provided on an "as-is" basis, and
the reader assumes full responsibility for the results of reading this
post, direct and indirect, and absolves myself and my employer of any
and all liability.
From: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: WorldLink???
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:08:01 -0500
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: chaos.intercon.com
X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.1b34

I've been replying to people in email, but this seems to be a common enough 
misconception that I'll post this reply to the net.  I promise not to jump in 
after every query, though :)...

pfeiffer@netcom.com (Kevin Pfeiffer) writes:
> 	The WorldLink I tried used batch processing, [...]
> It did not do telnet. 

This is quite true: WorldLink is not an Internet connection.  It is a service 
that provides Internet email, FTP, and in the future, Usenet news.  It's more 
similar to an online service like CompuServe or GEnie than it is to a real-
time SLIP or PPP connection.  And for the service fee, you get unlimited use, 
even at 9600 baud, unlike most online services.

To be fair, it's not aimed at people who want a personal IP link to the 
Internet, and so if that's what you're looking for, it won't look too 
attractive.  It's aimed at people who need basic email & FTP connectivity at 
a flat fee per month.

Think of it as, oh, the MacPaint of Internet email :)...  It only does a few 
things, but for many people it does what they need.

Hope this helps clear things up,


Amanda Walker
InterCon Systems Corporation


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ra_novy@dal.mobil.com (Robert A. Novy)
Subject: PROFS-QuickMail Gateway?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Mobil E&P Technical Center
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:06:40 GMT

Is there a way to have mail received by a PROFS account forwarded
automatically to QuickMail?  Just as good would be forwarding PROFS mail to
any machine on the Internet, as we have a QuickMail-Internet gateway. 
Bonus question:  Can a message written in QuickMail be sent to an account
on a PROFS system?

It sure would be nice to be alerted about new mail without having to login
to the PROFS system.  I would like to avoid PROFS as much as possible, but
it is one of our standard ways of communicating.

Bob Novy
ra_novy@dal.mobil.com
Dallas, TX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Subject: Apple Modem Tool & Hardware Flow Control
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:18:11 GMT


Is there any way to determine if a 25/DIN8 modem cable supports hardware
handshaking ? 

I was sent a "high speed modem cable", but if I try to set hardware flow
control within the Apple Model Tool dialouge, it immediately reverts to 
XON/XOFF when I close and reopen the Comm Toolbox.

Any transfer test I could preform ? I thought handshaking was essential
for accuraccy at speeds over 4800 bds. I have an umcompressed rate of
9600 bds via an PPI 9600SA modem. I can transfer files OK, however I
also have MNP5 enabled.

Thanks much,

Jim
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP support for Appletalk routers
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:50:47 GMT

GBG> == Glen B. Glater <glen@Cayman.COM>

 GBG> There are two low end Ethernet-to-Ethernet routers that route
 GBG> AppleTalk and TCP/IP.

 GBG> Cayman Systems announced last week the GatorBox EX, [...]

 GBG> Compatible Systems also manufactures an Ethernet-to-Ethernet router.  I 
 GBG> am not in possesion of technical specs about their product.

Low-end cisco routers (like, say, a 2-ethernet IGS or 4000) will also route
AppleTalk and TCP/IP, though I don't think they do DDP-IP conversion (which
presumably the EX and Compatible Systems products *do* do).
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 * Christopher Davis * <ckd@eff.org> * <ckd@kei.com> * [CKD1] * MIME * RIPEM *
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Bret Oeltjen <oelt0002@student.tc.umn.edu>
Subject: Whereis  Lineshare scripts for Supra?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78D4DB19801650F@dialup-slip-1-15.gw.umn.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 28 Jan 93 08:45:37 GMT
Organization: U of M
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:44:02 GMT

Subject says it all.  I want to try to set up Lineshare with my
Supra 14.4 v.32bis.  Will something like ARA, UUPC, and Fax all
work?  Sorry if they are archived somewhere...  I must have
missed them.  

Thanks,
Bret Oeltjen
University of Minnesota
Electrical Engineering
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: jayb@laplace.MATH.ColoState.EDU (Jay Bourland)
Subject: Re: Problems with ZTERM
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:24:35 GMT
Organization: /home/laplace/jayb/.organization

I *think* that v.32bis is 9600 bps + compression. Anyway, your actual
connect rate may be quite different from the speed you set in the
Zterm menu. You need to tell your modem to report its CONNECT speed
after it negotiates one with the remote modem. With my Zoom VFX, I
added the string S95=45 to the init string and it reports the
negotiated connect speed to Zterm which uses that as its efficiency
baseline. I think that ATW1 should also work (assuming that the Supra
is Hayes-compatible. Hope this helps.

--
Jay Bourland
jayb@Math.ColoState.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: jimh@laison.w8hd.org (Jim Hebert)
Organization: L'AISON - Local Area Information Server Open Network
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:55:30 EDT
Subject: Re: Making a mac modem cable.

 Peter G. White,pw4963@sarah.albany.edu, asks:

 > I got the 25-pin connector at radio shack but 
  > they didn't have the correct 8-pin connector. 
  >  Where can I get one of these?                

First, you should be aware of this corollary to the General Theory of Entropy
which states:

 The Radio Shack nearest you will always be out of the part you need to
complete an electronic project.

Now, on to the mini DIN-8 connector...

IInstead of wiring my own DIN-8 connectors, I usually buy a DIN-8 to
DIN-8 cable marked as a "straight-thru" cable (commonly sold for use
with switch boxes), cut the cable in half, and wire a DB-25 to the open
end. The more common "printer cable" can be used, but "printer cables"
are wired with a twist, i.e., null-modem cable, and will have different
wiring at each end. The straight cable should be the same at both ends,
although it may be prudent to verify that!

And while I am at it, here is the wiring I use when making Mac-to-Modem
cables that support hardware flow control and DCD.  The color codes
refer to those found in a commonly available Din-8 to Din-8 cable, sold
by PC Accessories as their #30080, "Mac II to Switchbox (Strt Thru)
Cable 6Ft Mini* Male/Male", available at CompUSA for about $5.95:

 CABLE       MAC                   MODEM
COLOR   SIGNAL  PIN           PIN   SIGNAL          
 Brn    HSKo     1 ----------  4,20  RTS, DTR
 Red    HSKi     2 ---------- 5     CTS
 Org    TX-      3 ---------- 2     Tx Data
 Yel    SigGnd   4 ---------- 7     SigGnd
 Grn    RX-      5 ---------- 3     Rx Data
 Blu    TX+      6 ------ No connection
 White  GPi      7 ---------- 8     DCD
 Blk    RX+      8 ---------- 7     SigGnd
Bare   Shield   Case -------- 1     Safety Ground


Of course, you may have different color codes for the wiring, but they tend to
follow the resistor color code.
Regarding the Pin out for a DIN-8 connector: the connector, when viewed
from the front (i.e, the pin side, not the wiring side) looks like this:

                         o   o                 2   1
                     o     o   o           5     4   3
                        o  o  o                8 7  6      

The key here is that Pin 5 is the pin that is farthest off-center.  You
can also find a pin-out built-in to the Apple Modem Tool, v1.1.1. Turn
on Balloon Help and point on the upper right of the Modem Tool Screen
and a diagram will appear. You could also use ResEdit to extract the
pict file.


Best regards,

Jim Hebert



_____________________________________________________________________________
Jim Hebert                L'AISON = Local Area Information Server Open Network    
jimh@laison.w8hd.org                Tel: 313/647-2634  Beverly Hills, Michigan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Bob Polis <bobp@cc.mey.nl>
Subject: Re: X windows for Mac ?
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:53:57 GMT
X-Xxdate: Fri, 22 Jan 93 08:56:23 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7856737890102F4@mt1-244.srv.ca.mey.nl>
Organization: Moret Ernst & Young

In article <gre253-220193153213@152.83.8.10> Steve Green, gre253@its.csiro.au
writes:
>In fact does anybody know the names of any commercial X-windows software
>packages?

MacX 1.2 from Apple is an X Window server package. Is this what you want?