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From: flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: VHS TO S-VHS TAPE CONVERSION
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:07:47 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1993Jan25.223259.11782@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> mhald@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Mark Hald) writes:
>
>I've been using a drill on VHS tapes now since I got the S-VHS deck and
>notice an improvement, mostly at EP speeds.  Even on a 1976 Sears Color
>TV!

I tried this on both a Sony T-120 and a BASF T-160.  These aren't pro
quality tapes, but the results were really bad.  It was better on 
VHS mode that S-VHS mode.  Looks like I'll be sticking with real S-VHS
tapes for high quality recording.

BTW, I made the holes with a hot ice pick.  No little pieces to float
around...

-Bill

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From: gaojeng@durras.anu.edu.au (J. Gao)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony SLV-696HF Problems
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:07:23 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.22.8


Perhpas the SLV is a shoddy series. My X55ME had the sound drop-out problem
with its tuner, and I took it to the serviceman. It was hard to persuade
Sony it was its problem, and 4.5 months after, I'm still waiting for spare
parts. :-(  And there is no free number to call Sony here. :-(

Jie
From: pka@engin.umich.edu (Payman Khalili)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony SLV-696HF Problems
Date: 27 Jan 1993 06:25:05 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
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[ Folks, I got the following message via email.  William Hsu is the
  actual author of the article and asked me to post it to the net. 
         -Payman]

In article <1k1mn4INNcs5@srvr1.engin.umich.edu> pka@engin.umich.edu (Payman Khalili) writes:

>Well, the problem with the 696 is that you can hear a really annoying 
>popping sound in the stereo soundtrack.  On my machine, I get pops in 
>the left or right channel, and sometimes, the machine just goes into
>mono sound mode instantaneously (after a pop).  

>It is really annoying.  Kinda defeats the purpose of having HiFi VCR.
>I don't know if the 595 has the problem too.  

>However, I would suspect that it does.  I understand that the 595 and
>the 696 are basically the same machine but the 696 has the flying erase
>head in addition.

>Any 595 owners out there?


Here! Here!  Yeah, I own a Sony 595 :-<

I have the same damn popping sound problem too.  Of the four VHS titles that
I've purchased so far, two would cause these problems.  I returned both of
them back to the retail store, and it solved the problem on one title.  The
other one only does it at the beginning of the tape.

You might want to know that the two tapes that I had problems with were
bought from Blockbuster Video (not their Previous-Viewed specials, but
brand-new ones).  The other two tapes (which sounded great) were from The
Wherehouse.

I know four tapes is a small sample size, but it's the best I've come up
with so far.

Funny thing is, I never had problems with rentals, (unless they were very
old, then the picture goes out too).  Perhaps the tapes were pre-screened by
people who complained about sound (and happen to own Sony VCRs). 

William
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From: mhald@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Mark Hald)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: VHS TO S-VHS TAPE CONVERSION
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:32:59 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

It is not necessary to drill all the way through the case in order to
convert a VHS tape to S-VHS capable.  You only need to make a "dent"
sufficient in depth for whatever sensors the VCR has.

I've been using a drill on VHS tapes now since I got the S-VHS deck and
notice an improvement, mostly at EP speeds.  Even on a 1976 Sears Color
TV!

Mark
From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: SONY KV27XBR55 Complaints
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:54:08 PST
Organization: Kernel Mode Systems, San Diego, CA

In article <1993Jan26.180908.17609@walter.bellcore.com>,
 fvr@broom.bae.bellcore.com (Frank Ricciardi) writes:
> I posted a dissertation about having to service my new TV myself for 
> geometric distortion, and one of you kind people mentioned that I could 
> purchase the service manual for the set. 
> How does one go about this? Are they generally available from some source?

Yah.  Sony is VERY good about selling service manuals.  They are relatively
inexpensive (I haven't heard of one that costs over $20, most are much less)
and fairly complete with schematics and etc.  

Note:  The instructions for alignment and such do assume that you are
experienced in the color tv service field and just need the info that's
specific for the particular set -- ie if you need a tutorial on color tv setup,
you need to go elsewhere. 

Anyway, one of the following two numbers should do it:  (copied from a posting
late last year in rec.audio) 

	816-891-7550/parts  800-551-7669/everything else

If your XBR is like mine, you will also need to order some of the small 
permanent magnets that are used to perform the adjustments.  (I don't know the
numbers -- they're in the service manual).

You will also need a crosshatch pattern generator, unless you use a handy
computer with NTSC video output to do the job. 

By the way, if you can markedly improve a 27" XBR's geometric (pincushion)
distortion, while preserving horizontal and vertical linearity and convergence,
Sony would probably like to hear from you -- assuming that they'll admit that
there's a problem.  There have been many complaints in rec.video from folks
with 27" (and larger) XBR's and EXR's who have tried -- repeatedly and
unsuccessfully -- to get Sony to fix this aspect of their sets.

(And btw, Sony fans, I've seen Zenith 27" sets without this problem -- so it's 
NOT inherent in the screen size.)

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Systems, San Diego CA
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, or hanrahan@eisner.decus.org  Uucp: uunet!cmkrnl!jeh
From: davidl@ssd.intel.com (David Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: RCA VR667HF VCR?
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:25:01 GMT
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel

I'm considering the purchase of an RCA model VR667HF VCR.  If you have
any strong opinions on this model, pro or con, please send me mail.

- David D. Levine, Intel Supercomputer Systems Division == davidl@ssd.intel.com
  If a picture is worth 1000 words, then a sculpture is worth 31622.7 words.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: gillies@cs.uiuc.edu (Don Gillies)
Subject: Bad SONY's and bad TV purchases
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:24:51 GMT


Claude whiting (whiting@europa.eng.gtefsd.com) comments that he has a
SONY TV, 15 years old, that works great, so why is everyone griping
about SONY?  My family has two SONY's, each about 20 years old, bought
from the most reputable dealer in town.  In their time they were the
best sets available.  Both of the local dealers have stopped carrying
SONY because, "They used to be great, but the workmanship now is
shoddy".

Some people have complained that

	"I won't buy a TV unless they let me unbox it and try it out
	on the floor before taking it home."

I think this is a something-for-nothing attitude.  I bought my TV from
a local appliance dealer, not a mass-market high-volume discount store
with grease-monkeys running their repair department (if at all).  I
bought the last model, which happened to be on the floor (a Zenith),
and there was a lot of overscan.  So I asked them to fix it before I
took it home and they did, free of charge.  Now my TV has less
overscan than any TV I've ever seen in any discount store.

I think it's a false economy to purchase complicated and expensive
piece of equipment mail order, or from a discounter, especially a TV.
Every television looks different, even from the same manufacturer, the
same production run, and in the same store.  If you buy it from a
reputable local dealer he can work wonders and adjust it to your
satisfaction.  If you go to a reputable local dealer and ask him, "Can
the geometric distortion on a SONY XBR be fixed by adjusting it?" I
bet that not only will he tell you the truth, but he'll probably do it
for free if you buy the TV from him.

In praise of local television dealers,

Don Gillies - gillies@cs.uiuc.edu - University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign





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From: benjamin@zds-oem.zds.com (Adam Benjamin)
Subject: VCR info, WHERE?
Organization: Zenith Data Systems, OEM Systems Engineering
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:21:31 GMT


I am thinking about getting a "pro-sumer" model VCR.  Where does one
find information about these things??
I look in magazines but they seem to toss around model numbers like
I already know everything.  
  (Well, the JVC 37stroke9000 performs much like the sony 9856578574756
  and we were impressed that the new cunutter-valve technology has
  finally made it into a home video machine)
 HUH??
I'm a computer head, not a Videot (yet)
I want to do some simple editing and record some animations from
my computer. (no not single frame)
 
Can a unit be had for under $500 that has flying erase head, 
jog-shuttle, audio insert, and probably something else I forgot?

ADVAthanksNCE

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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: simonh@amtfocus.amt.gss.mot.com (Simon Hu )
Subject: LD Player with Karaoke Function Recommendations Wanted
Organization: Motorola 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:48:27 GMT

I am looking for a LD player with Karaoke capability. Since I already 
have a Rotel CD player, I don't want buy a combi. Any suggestion on Brand
name/model/where to mail order is appreciated. Email me please. 

Thanks in advance. 

        Simon 

        simonh@amtfocus.amt.gss.mot.com 
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: mds@condor
Subject: Seeking info:VCR Voice Remote
Reply-To: mds@condor.nsc.com
Organization: NSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:45:09 GMT

 
I recently saw one of those "infomercials" for a VCR Voice Remote.
This remote is entirely voice activated. It is a "smart" remote
that can learn four voices, and operate your VCR, TV, and Cable box.
It sells for about $149, and is purchased through an 800 number.

Does anybody have any experience with one of these? Do they work
as well as they claim? Any info regarding this product would be
greatly appreciated.


   
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From: aa716@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Fields)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: How do you degauss a TV set?
Date: 24 Jan 1993 07:05:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I moved a rather large speaker by my TV set, then when I moved
it away I noticed that the colors on the bottom fifth of the screen
were distorted (purple/green).  Did I just completely ruin my TV?

I know that more expensive Mitsubishi's have a degauss button.  This
is a Mitsubishi, but has no button.  Help me please.
From: ccofjg@dct.ac.uk (Frazer Greig)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: PALPlus
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:55:16 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1993Jan27.141608.3139@dct.ac.uk>, ccofjg@dct.ac.uk (Frazer Greig) writes:
> In article <1j3fhfINN1sm@uk-news.uk.sun.com>, marcob@polo.Italy.Sun.COM (Marco Barsotti - SUN Italy ) writes:
>> In the january issue of a british satellite magazine, there is a
>> reference to the forthcoming "PALPlus Standard" for terrestrial broadcast.
>> 
>> There is no explaination of what it is, but the article seems to
>> suggest that it is normal pal with 16:9 aspect ratio.
>> 
>> Anyone have more details ?
>> 
>> Thanks
>> 
>> Marco Barsotti
>> Sun microsystems Italy
> 
> PALPlus is widescreen version of PAL. It was created initially so that
> terrestial broadcasters could transmit widescreen broadcasts, because the D2MAC
> bandwidth is too large to be used terrestially. 
> 
> PalPlus is compatible with existing PAL television sets and the newer 16:9
> 
> If a 4:3 set receives a PalPlus signal it will display it in letterbox The new
> 16:9 sets will display the full widescreen image. It uses digital signals which 
> are embedded in the black bars to improve the picture quality.
> 
> Unfortunately present video recorders cant handle the high frequency digital
> helper signals. I think they are working on a modified SVHS  system.
> 
> it is hoped that PALplus broadcasts can begin in the Autumn of '95.
> 
> -- 
> Frazer Greig                 Internet: CCOFJG@DCT.AC.UK
> Computer Centre                 Janet: CCOFJG@UK.AC.DUNDEE-TECH
> Dundee Institute of Technology
-- 
I made a mistake in the previous posting. Existing 4:3 sets will not be
compatible with PalPlus. 

4:3 Palplus sets will receive the old Pal and the new standard but in letterbox
form.

Apologies

Frazer Greig                 Internet: CCOFJG@DCT.AC.UK
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Dundee Institute of Technology
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: emanuel@dxcern.cern.ch (Emanuel Machado)
Subject: TR101 and TR805?
Summary: Europe x USA
Keywords: Difference?
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:38:34 GMT


	Hi, When I was in the US this summer, the hot thing by Sony in terms
of camcorders was the TR101. I didn't ask whether there was a PAL version
for it (unfortunately), but was always curious to buy it.

	In Europe (Switzerland), the TR-805 appeared recently, which
incorporates the same image stabilization equipment as the TR-101. It's
basic features are a 10X zoom, Hi8,  HiFi Stereo AFM, 470,000 pixels, 3 lux
and lots of other neat things.

	I would have two questions to anyone:

	- Is the 805 a PAL version of the 101, or are they actually
	  different? In what ways?

	- Can one buy the 805 in the US (the 101 is not sold here)? How
	  much would it sell for?

	Thanks in advance,

	Emanuel


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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: greenjb@birch.cs.clemson.edu (Jeffrey B. Green)
Subject: Re: Best Prices+Service
Organization: Clemson University Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:28:58 GMT

In article <C188qw.40t@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> mannan@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (D RIGHT 1) writes:
>is usually lower than most electronics stores. They have a return
						??????????????????
>policy which is very convenient...if you want to return something
 ???????????????????????????????
>UPS picks it up from your house...and the shopping service pays for
>it.  

When I bought my 2070 via Shoppers Advantage, I wanted to immediately
exchange it for a 3070. They required a 15% restocking fee which I
couldn't swallow. It seems like a decent service only if you purchase
a "enough" items from them and are positive about the items you order.

-- Jeff


J.B.Green (greenjb@cs.clemson.edu)
From: DE@Phoenix.SCH.symbolics.com (Doug Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Corrupted Sound (Metal Pipe Phenomenon)
Date: 20 Jan 93 20:07:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet


    Date: 19 Jan 93 16:36:35 GMT
    From: Trond Trondsen

    hi,
    do the experts out there know the explanation to this phenomenon:
    We all know how things sound when listening to them through a long
    metal pipe, right?  Even through a long concrete pipe.
    The sound has a very characteristic 'sound'.
    Sometimes movies on TV has this sound.  It is highly annoying.
    I used to think it had to do with the stereo sound not being in phase
    on the transmitting end (so that I would have to reconnect my speakers
    to an out-of-phase config to compensate), but no that's not it.
    The distortion of the sound is much more severe than what you can
    produce by playing music out of phase.

    just in case anybody got an idea...

On my local stations, this effect (which I hate) is caused by a stupid
stereo sound simulator unit that the stations use to "enhance" mono
programs.  This unit uses a comb-filter effect to spread the sound out
from the center.  It is not a simple reversed phase in one channel or
something similar that would be easy to get around.  The only thing you
can do is set your tv (or vcr) to mono and send a nasty letter to the
station telling them to quit using their stupid stereo enhancer box.
From: dna@ampex.com (David Altekruse)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Yamaha E1000 vs Sony TA-E2000ESD
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:52:45 GMT
Organization: Ampex Corporation, Redwood City CA

Robert_La_Ferla@hot.com writes:

>> As you state,
>> analog signals still go through A/D->D/A, however.  (Don't ask me
>> why Sony does it that way, though.)
>
>Sony does this because all the equalization, effects, etc is  
>accomplished via the DSP in the digital domain.  IMHO, this is a good  
>thing.  The alternative would be to have two sets of circuits and  
>needless complexity.  If people want a pure analog system, they  
>should purchase a different system.
>
By deleting the previous sentence, you made my comment meaningless.
What I said (exactly) was:

  All DSP settings (Pro-Logic, ambience, equalization, compression/
  expansion) are by-passed in the "Source Direct" mode.  As you state,
  analog signals still go through A/D->D/A, however.  (Don't ask me
  why Sony does it that way, though.)

The question that several of us who have Sony TA-E2000ESD have been asking
is why the source direct mode (which by-passes all DSP functions) doesn't
also by-pass the A/D->D/A conversion for analog inputs. 

- David Altekruse, dna@ampex.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: snd@dynastar (Stefanos Damianakis)
Subject: Re: Sony SLV-696HF Problems
Organization: Princeton University, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:08:18 GMT

sorry but i missed the original post, what was the defect in the 696?
does the 595 have the same problem?

thanks,

-stef
snd@cs.princeton.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong)
Subject: Citizen M329 color LCD monitor
Keywords: For sale
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:09:41 GMT

I have the above monitor, ideal for small camcorders; it connects
directly to the existing viewfinder input.  

Paid $160; selling for $75


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From: Holt@cheme.washington.edu (Brad Holt)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: German Video in US
Followup-To: rec.video
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:26:35 GMT
Organization: U of Washington
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.95.214.232

   I have a friend who wants to be able to play German made 
video tapes here in the US.  Can someone recommend the best
way of accomplishing this and what some of the trade-offs
are?  He has the usual US standard TV and VCR.

Thanks
Brad
From: stevep@apollo.HP.COM (Steve Pearce)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Lifestyle Satellite Jukebox on Astra to Close!
Date: 26 Jan 1993 11:52:33 GMT
Organization: SSG/CSY Pinewood, UK
Distribution: eunet
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpopdlcm.pwd.hp.com

In article <1993Jan26.105252.27571@mfltd.co.uk>, lis@mfltd.co.uk (Linus Surguy (x5384)) writes:
|> In article <6706@falcon.ukc.ac.uk> djb@ukc.ac.uk (David Barnes) writes:
|> >Yesterday evening: Monday 25th, Lifestyle was replaced by German
|>    
|> >programming with a VOX logo top left.  I watched on-and-off from
|> >
|> >David
|> 
|> It is quite sad really, especially as It seems now that the German channels out number the English ones..... and the Sell-a-vision programmme was very good to  laugh at!!
|> 
|> Linus
|> 

Thats life, we Brits have no god-given right to expect everyone to suffer the
english language. Since there are probably as many (as a first language) German
speakers then English speakers, the mix of channels on Astra is about right.

I count 10 English only channels, 11 German only channels, 2 multi language.
The ARD 1 channel transmits some programs in the original language on 7.20 and
N-TV has World Service News in English.

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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
From: ppelrine@fairfax.stfx.ca (Peter Pelrine)
Subject: FOX??
Keywords: FOX, G3-3
Organization: University Computer Services, St. Francis Xavier University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:15:11 GMT

Does anybody know what happened to the Fox network?

We were getting it all along on G3-2, but all of a sudden it is gone.  Has 
it been moved, and if yes, Where to?

Thanks
Peter
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Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 03:55:37 -0600
From:         F60C038@SAKSU00.BITNET

SUBJECT: International HOMESAT

     This is a request to setup an international version of the HOEMSAT list
I don't know who, or where to contact the concerned persons, if anyone know,
PLEASE, PLEASE DO LET ME KNOW BY CONTACTING ME DIRECTLY ON E-MAIL BELOW:

               F60C038@SAKSU00.BITNET

N.B. If an international HOMESAT list is thought to be too general, since the
     world is a big place, a regional HOMESATs maybe setup.

     I am able, prepared, and willing to be the moderator, owner, manager.

p.s. I am not on this list any more .
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From: andre@king.slc.mentorg.com (Andre' Hut)
Subject: Re: Star Trek DS9
Organization: /slc/home/andre/.organization
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:03:06

In article <4@sinet.UUCP> ejones@sinet.UUCP (Endaf Jones) writes:
   >I know this has been stated before, but I missed the post.
   >What is the weekly schedule for DS9?

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From: neal@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jerry Neal)
Subject: Re: F1 reception terrible
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:14:58 GMT

crj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

..... that end of the satellite location arc is terrible.  Reception is rotten.
>Anyone have a possible reason for that terrible reception? 

Likely that you dish is out of alignment.  Try rotating the azimuth adj back
and forth and see if that helps; ie, if the dish mount is twisted away from
true north, this can happen.  There are some really strong sats down there,
if you aren't getting C3 and C4 good, I'd almost bet that is your problem.
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