HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:19:25 GMT
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh

In article <1992Nov12.231010.5276@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:
>]> >You also missed a point... while the 486 will have larger HD/ more mem, those
>]> >resources are REQUIRED to run OS2 or WindersNT (if it exists) or whatever.
>]> 
>]> I would expect the HD to comparitively larger than what OS/2 needs.
>
>At the expense of what?  Either something comes off the drive now, or something
>doesn't go on it at a later date, but either way there's @20 megs that belong
>to the OS instead of your data.  You're either going to give up something,
>or end up getting another/bigger hard drive sooner than you expected to.

Most people use the largest portion of their HD space for 'scratch' space.  I
know that I use mine that way.  When that last 20 megs becomes of critical
importance, buy a bigger drive.  You obviously need the space anyway.  

Your quibbling over a few megabytes of HD space is invalid.  At least, on a
PC, HD space is cheap.  At less than $2/meg, get all you can.  Then you won't
give yourself an ulcer worrying about how much space your OS is using.

John W. Linville



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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: EGGPLANT, IMPLANT, EMPATH, BLAZEPLANT...
Date: 16 Nov 92 10:48:50 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <1992Nov14.092857.26368@utstat.uucp> by philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough):

> I've been following that group closely. Please name one person who has managed
> to boot into the Finder?

    Jim Drew.

> Philip McDunnough
--
*** John Bickers, TAP.                   jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***
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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  EGGPLANT, IMPLANT, EMPATH, BLAZEPLANT...
Distribution: world
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:37:50 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <1992Nov16.203525.28123@utstat.uucp> philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough) writes:
>In article <Paula_Lieberman.076k@amicol.UUCP> Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman) writes:
>>re article by Philip McDonnough :  I think I mentioned it here before -- I
>>watched as a PowerBook owner and a Mac consultant tried getting ConcertWare
>>to run on on '030 PowerBook and communicate with a MIDI keyboard.  It
>>refused -- the machine crashed in a number of interesting ways.  Turned out
>>that  something like System 7 run all comm for MIDI though some special
>>MIDI handler, that ConcertWare last year was not compatible with.  
>
>Paula, I can't respond to any further messages from you (although I would
>like to) as you seem to have an editor which won't let you quote the 
>article to which you are referring.
>
>[ ]
>
>Philip McDunnough
>University of Toronto
>philip@utstat.toronto.edu


Since I am a curious person, and since I have an account on amicol.UUCP,
I thought i would call them up and check out their news software.  I usually
call there for PD downloads.

The system runs the DLG Pro BBS system, amd it appears to have all the usual
stuff for posting news.

I found that I was able to follow up the article and include the quoted
article in my message.  I even followed up one of Paula's articles.

The article will appear here at some point.

The online help made it easy to post a followup with quoted text.

What can I say?

--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: gregk@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Greg Koolbeck - RMS)
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 17:17:49 GMT

etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Pihl) writes:

>In article 8626@usl.edu, das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov19.073022.9208@eua.ericsson.se> etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se writes:
>> >In article 02vr@rkamiga.UUCP, root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>> >
>> >> >* A PC is a PC even if it uses single of multiple user UNIX like SCO 
>> >> >  Xenix, Interactive IX and so on.
>> >> 
>> >> Then why is a 486/33 running UNIX and X11 faster than a SUN IPX?
>> >
>> >Who said that? How was the machines configurated? Were both running
>> >in a network?
>> 
>> RISC or not, the IPC CPU seems pretty low-end.  Isn't it the same one used in
>> the ELC?

  Nope. The ELC has a 40 MHz SPARC chipset. The IPC has a 28?MHz chipset,
approximately the same as the SparcStation 1+. On the other hand, both machines
have 8 "hardware contexts" in the MMU. What this means is that 7 processes in
the run queue are easy to make the running process, since their register set
pointers, page tables, etc. are already in the MMU. Context switches are 
expensive in the SPARC architecture. Also, the ELC is typically underpowered
in that it rarely has much memory or a local hard drive. If an ELC is swapping
over the network, watch out.

>We talked about Sun IPX and not IPC. It's possible IPC's have the same CPU
>as ELC, but I don't know much about it.

  The IPX, SparcStation 2, and the ELC all use the same CPU.

>I know that a IPX with a GFX-card is something real nice to play with though.
>(The guy sitting in the room next to mine has one)
> 

  They're OK if they have enough loacal swap and memory.

>> 
>> >> Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.
>> >> 		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root
>> >/ Tomas Pihl
>> >/ email:   etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se
>> -- 
>> Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
>> "There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
>> lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
>>                         -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival  

>________________________________________
>/ Tomas Pihl
>/ ELLEMTEL Telecom Systems Lab, Sweden
>/ email:   etxpihl@eua.ericsson.se


	Greg Koolbeck
	Unix Systems Attitude Adjuster
	NASA/GSFC 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: HEIDI'S DECISION. Was: Oh My God, help my friend not buy an IBM
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:26:56 GMT

In article <1ebq0bINNeql@mozz.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:

[ ]
>	
>	If she does decide to get the Gateway PC, she's getting a very nice
>   machine.  I've had a 33/486 for over a year now and have never had a single
>   problem with it.  I wouldn't recommend getting the Gateway monitor though,
>   get a Sony 1304 or an NEC instead, thats what I did.  From reading the other
>   PC groups, the Gateway monitors have a bad track record.

Yes, the 1304 and the NEC are both nice. They also work on computers other
than a PC. If this person does get a PC of any ilk, she will lose interest
in computing with months.
 
For a while I thought there was hope. However, I now see that the PC just has
something really wrong with it. Nothing ever works just right. It's not
elegant. And, as you go from DOS->Windows->? you feel you're moving from
one planet to the next.
 
I have an MPC system (486/33 based now). It has never worked properly even
under Windows, let alone OS/2. Today I received a MacIIvi (this is basically
a IIvi but with a 16MHz 030). It has a built in CD-ROM which is Kodak
Photo CD compatible and has the speed doubling. It's great. Plug and play.
No hassles with meory, CD's paly as they should, no jerkiness in the
voices, etc...
 
The person in question would be far better off getting either a Mac or an Amiga.The PC may have the numbers, but not much else.
 
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville)
Subject: Re: HEIDI'S DECISION. Was: Oh My God, help my friend not buy an IBM
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:51:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.181531.18791@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.101633.4863@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> lodi@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (fabrizio lodi) writes:
>>
>>P.S. I and some friends of mine on a '030 accellerated Amiga
>>     have launched A-Max, and then Soft-Pc for Mac;result:
>
>SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
>Tell me it isn't slow.
>
>>       A 16Mhz 386!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Harumph!

You mean you actually responded to this moron?  SoftPC emulates a 286, and 
most older versions only emulate an 8086.  As far as the 16 MHz speed, I think
that is a load of bunk.  Maybe an 8086/16...

John W. Linville


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: MORE POLITICS! Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??)
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:25:38 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
 <root.02ul@rkamiga.UUCP> <1992Nov16.180823.29788@usl.edu> <Ef203ke00WAxA1jm03@andrew.cmu.edu>,<1992Nov16.233100.7144@ra.msstate.edu>
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this IS NOT a forum for discussing POLITICS. STOP.

Jim
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From: 925wardell@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:41:48 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov18.214730.12952@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com>, jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:
> Quoth linville@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (John W. Linville):
> 
> ]> In article <1992Nov12.231010.5276@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:
> 
> ]> >]> >resources are REQUIRED to run OS2 or WindersNT (if it exists) or whatever.
> ]> >]> 
> ]> >]> I would expect the HD to comparitively larger than what OS/2 needs.
> ]> >
> ]> >At the expense of what?  Either something comes off the drive now, or something
> ]> 
> ]> Most people use the largest portion of their HD space for 'scratch' space.  I
> ]> know that I use mine that way.  When that last 20 megs becomes of critical
> ]> importance, buy a bigger drive.  You obviously need the space anyway.  
> 
> Could you give me a little hard data on what constitutes "most" people?  I for
> one see more people on the verge of running out of room than people who aren't,
> both peecee and Amiga.  If IDE's are THAT cheap, I don't understand how they
> ended up in such a situation.  From my own personal experience I know it ain't
> so, but I suppose I am a lone exception, eh?
> 
> Reminds me of one fellow's answer to the inefficiency of certain Mac software:
> "just add memory -- it's cheap!"  Well, it's Nov 1992 and it isn't cheap anymore,
> is it?
> 
> ]> Your quibbling over a few megabytes of HD space is invalid.  At least, on a
> ]> PC, HD space is cheap.  At less than $2/meg, get all you can.  Then you won't
> ]> give yourself an ulcer worrying about how much space your OS is using.
> 
> That's a sorry excuse.  It's that way of thinking that got us gas lines in the
> 70's.  In this case I'll quibble all I want to -- MY operating system will fit
> in less than 2 megs, while OS/2 reqires around 10x that to be effective.
> 
> ]> John W. Linville
> 
	If you don't want OS/2 to use 30 megs of disk space, then just
don't add teh Windows 3.x support, DOS support, and the pitiful little
apps that come with it.  OS/2 can take up as little as 3 megs of
disk space if you want.  But if you want the graphica user enviornment
then you have to add a few megs.  Add the applets that come with it
then you add more, etc.  A complete OS/2 installation minus all DOS
support and Windows support but with the wrok place shell, and such
takes 12 megs of disk space total.
	
	Similarly, if Amigados was expected to Run MS-Windows and MS-Dos
you too would have to add the over 18 megabytes of garbabge to your hard
drive.

							-Brad




Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: The piracy argument to end all arguments....
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:24:59 GMT

In article <69822@cup.portal.com>, TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:

 > I'll bet you sing "yo-ho yo-ho a pirates life for me" in the shower.

Don't know about the orioginal poster, but *I* do...  I know it was played at the
start of an *old* copier, but where is it from (I assume an old pirate movie)...
It's driving me NUTS!

 > TomK@cup.portal.com
 > Tom Krotchko

-Eyvind

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PIRACY
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??)
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:11:28 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
 <1992Nov13.034022.1460@cs.mun.ca> <1992Nov15.171003.10045@ra.msstate.edu> 
 <bmccnnll.721933383@unix1.tcd.ie>,<1992Nov16.180021.6988@ugle.unit.no>
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1992Nov16.180021.6988@ugle.unit.no>, eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen) writes:
>[I approve of whoever put those keywords in]
>
>In article <bmccnnll.721933383@unix1.tcd.ie>, bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell) writes:
> > In <1992Nov15.171003.10045@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
> > 
> > >Okay, let's apply that same logic to other issues.  The car thief never bought
> > >the car, nor would they have bought it, therefore there is no net gain and
> > >no net loss.
> > 
> > Yes there is: something physical is stolen, which prevents someone else from
> > legally buying it. The point the original poster was making is that - even
> > if they "steal" the software - the original package will be available for 
> > someone else to buy. The software company does not actually lose something
>
>Yeah, and there'll still be another car in the same range...
>
> > physical as a result. It's all on paper. :-)  My understanding of whether
>
>Sorta like your bank account.  Should I screw with that?

Sure if you wanna color Xerox the money and leave it there for me...no prob..

>                                                                            
> > Barry.
>                                                                            
>-Eyvind                                                                     
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Living w/o a computer 'till the 4000 comes. Sigh... X-ASOCC (CBM Blew that one)
           Jim Martin   MATRIX -- If it's made, we sell it. Almost.
A4000 Coming SOON!!, Real soon.                 MARTIN@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: WHO won the 4000!!!!
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU (Psigon Matrix....do you DOUBT us??)
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:12:23 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

 at the contest "25 word thing"...who won the 4000, 600 and AVPro????


a list please


Jim
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Living w/o a computer 'till the 4000 comes. Sigh... X-ASOCC (CBM Blew that one)
           Jim Martin   MATRIX -- If it's made, we sell it. Almost.
A4000 Coming SOON!!, Real soon.                 MARTIN@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jsg@ccs.northeastern.edu (Jonas S Green)
Subject: Re: Amiga or Messy-DOS
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:06:09 GMT

In article <etxtsg.722262667@solsta-c> etxtsg@solsta.ericsson.se (Thomas Grennefors  TX/DKF) writes:
>barham@qut.edu.au writes:
>
>>I don't think the future of the Amiga is particularly uncertain, and
>>by that I mean support and software.  The Amiga is finally starting
>>to get some of the recognition it deserves as a serious computer.
>>Commodore are finally telling people that Amiga's exist.  New
>>machines are finally showing up.  Things are just starting to look
>>rosy!

I agree, I have seen C= Amiga Ads in Byte Magazine and other places. I Just hope
Commodore remembers that Home Users CAN AFFORD VGA quality monitors, and does
not make almost every video mode flicker like mad. Witness the A600's lack of
a de-interlacer.

P.S. I don't understand Video Artists. Sure you want the Interlaced mode to mix
your graphic with a live video signal, but why do you want it flickering while
your drawing it in DPaint?


>>Well, you can probably find some of the BEST (in many peoples
>>debatable opinions) word processors and database packages for the PC,
>>but you can certainly easily find many GOOD (in fact, EXCELLENT) word
>>processors and database packages for the Amiga.  These days you can
>>even read your friends word perfect file (if you REALLY want to).

I have seen very good WP and DTP Programs for the Amiga Excellence 2.0 &
3.0 PageStream 2.21, and ProWrite leap to mind. What I have not seen is
good printer support, as exists on WordPerfect 5.1 for DOS.


P.S. What Amiga WP/DTP packages will import & export DOS formats?
     Same questions for Paint Packages... 

>>Oh, you wanted some serious, comparison, fact and figure type
>>reasons?  They have been bandied about here often enough, and when it
>>all comes done, pretty well everything the Amiga can do a PC can do
>>also (if you add enough hardware), but just not as nicely %^)
>
>If a PC can du anything that a Amiga can du then all it boils down to is 
>the price, and then the choice is pretty clear. In that case a PC is the 
>only viable option. Why pay $1000-$1500 more for the same functionality?


The questions is not which can do everything the other does? The question
is which can do WHAT I NEED IT TO DO. 

Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:13:36 -0500 
From: Geoffrey Spear <gs32+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: MORE POLITICS! Re: PC, Redneck President, and other bad news
	<1992Nov16.180823.29788@usl.edu>
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Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga.advocacy: 16-Nov-92 Re: MORE
POLITICS! Re: PC, .. Stephenson Daniel A@usl. (1109)


> Hmmm... maybe there ought to be another election.

> I think it is hilarious how Clinton shows his true self after putting
> on for the election.

> This is great - it is SO OBVIOUS how Clinton totally duped all those 
> STUPID voters out there into voting for him.

That's ok, it's SO OBVIOUS that Commodore has duped you into thinking
that the Amiga is a good computer.  Seems like some people are more
easily tricked than others.


> So Rick, you like own an Amiga store that has Internet, or what?
> -- 
> Dan Stephenson                                                
> das9674@usl.edu  
> "There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
> lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
>                         -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival  


-----------------------------------
Geoff "with a G" Spear
Carnegie Mellon University
Electrical and Computer Engineering
Class of '96 (I hope...)
-----------------------------------
"Love may be a matter of chemistry, but sex is all physics."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki)
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:19:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.071523.22253@midway.uchicago.edu> sjchmura@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <BxzywJ.2v2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK)) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov19.224148.6464@gw.wmich.edu> 925wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>[about OS/2 needing mega-space for GUI support]
>>
>>>	Similarly, if Amigados was expected to Run MS-Windows and MS-Dos
>>>you too would have to add the over 18 megabytes of garbabge to your hard
>>>drive.
>>
>>Well, I don't claim to know much about OS/2, but AmigaDOS already has a
>	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Flame on:
>
>>GUI and doesn't need to run an external GUI.  I'd figure OS/2 would have
>>it's own GUI.  Hmmm clone users?  (I'm not saying emulation isn't nice BTW.)

>Huh?  If you have a bridgeboard you still need Windows 3.1 to run windows.
>There is no "need" for "external GUI" except for emulation.

Does OS/2 have it's own GUI or not?  If it doesn't then you NEED to run 
Windows (and therefore DOS) in order to get a GUI.  I would assume that
OS/2 doesn't need to run Windows otherwise.  With Amiga there is no need
to run a GUI other than the native.  Let's stick with native apps ok?
And chill out on the flame button OK?  Christ, let's be civilized.  :)

>>>							-Brad
>>--Jason Balicki
>________________________________________________________________________________Steven Chmura				University of Chicago Medical School(M1)


--Jason Balicki
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: hyc@hanauma.jpl.nasa.gov (Howard Chu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Falcon Spec's [per Comdex handouts]
Date: 24 Nov 92 02:18:23 GMT
Organization: SAR Systems Development & Processing, JPL

In article <1992Nov23.014704.23178@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> mashton@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (M.S. Ashton) writes:
>How can 16bit(65536 colour) graphics be "true colour".
>16 doesn't divide by three,so it's obviously not based on Red/Green/Blue 
>combinations.Nice graphics,yes,but true colour???

There's already been a long argument over this use of the phrase "true color"
in the Atari newsgroups, so I hope it doesn't get repeated here. Certainly it
doesn't match most people's use of the term to mean "24 bits or 16.7 million
possible colors per pixel". I think they are just implying that there is no
Color Look Up Table involved, as there is in the 2, 4, and 8 bit-per-pixel
graphics modes. There are 5 bits of red and blue intensity and 6 bits for
green. In the video overlay mode, the 6th green bit is taken over as the
video overlay bit.

Just remember "true-color" means "no CLUT" and leave it at that, please.
-- 
  -- Howard Chu @ Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

All true wisdom is conveyed in one-line witticisms.