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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:46:43 EDT
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Early Music English & Italian Voice & Viol Concert in MA
              1 Oct 1992 19:07:06 GMT from <IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE. WANG.COM>

On Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:07:06 GMT 'Imaging Club' said:
>
>They performed works by Robert White, William Byrd, Alfonso
>Ferrabosco II, Girolamo Frescobaldi, Giovanni Maria Trabaci,
>John Ward, Richard Farrant, Luca Marenzio, John Bennet, and
>Richard Nicholson, all of whom were born prior to 1600.  The
>audience reaction was highly favorable to the performance.
>
If it's before 1600, it's bound to be good  :-)
>
>by Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:10:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      _Ambient Genocide_

>From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
>Subject:      Re: stochastic

>Finally, McIntyre: I am genuinely intrigued by your description of your music
>BUT I have to admit I am bothered by the word "genocide" in the title...  I
>just can't take this word lightly--is there some reason you used it?

Sonia (and anyone else who was wondering),

I was not dodging your question.  It's just that hiding it under the
subject "re: stochastic" was a good disguise; it took me a while to find
it.

I can understand you being bothered by our using "genocide" in the
title of our tape.  And I won't take the easy way out by saying the
title was Rick's idea. 8-)  But it was and he deserves the credit/blame.
Personally, I think it was a brilliant stroke.  It works on two levels.

Turning to Webster: "genocide n:the deliberate and systematic destruction
of a racial, political, or cultural group".  Well, it may be a bit of a
stretch to call it "cultural", but our intended target is that bland,
lifeless air pudding that has co-opted the term "ambient music".
(I prefer Hawkwind for my ambience, thank you.)  We like to think that
someone seeking "ambient" music would find Mutually Assured Destruction
to be the equivalent of genocide.  So to those who would ask, "Do you
play ambient music?", we would answer, "Oh yes, ambient genocide."

On the second level, to those who would ask, "Do you play rock'n'roll?",
we would answer with the intro to David Bowie's "Diamond Dogs". 8-)

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University

P.S.  For those unfamiliar with the song in question, it's one that opens
with David screaming, "This ain't rock'n'roll; this is genocide".
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:24:06 MEZ
From:         Paul Hosken <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: longest song title ever???

Theresa,
  If you can fit the title on one line then you're wrong! Keep trying.

Paul
From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
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Subject: Re: Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madnes
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:52:17 GMT
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In article <ALLMUSIC%92092813500986@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET> writes:
>  Pleiades it is.  The seven sisters.  Of which there are six.  Or hundreds.
>Depending, of course, on how good your eyes are.  (Sounds like a lot of
>bull to me.  Perhaps, instead of the seven sisters, which is clearly
>misleading, they should name them the horny sisters - given their location
>in the constellation.)
>
>  I've heard it.  I must admit, I wasn't so impressed.  Maybe I just didn't
>get it, or maybe I was unaware of whatever formalism was driving it, but
>it sounded pretty ordinary to me.  (I guess you could say that I'm not
>bullish on this piece.  Which is not to say it is udderly without redeeming
>features.)  (You suppose there are more puns to be milked from this?  I'll
>bet there are, though I wouldn't steak my life on it.)

Ah, the Roofster's mind is certainly working overtime on this one.
Remember, he who smelt it dealt it.

Actually, this is quite a different piece for Xenakis.  For one, it is
somewhat multicultural.  Images of Asian music from Bali, as well as the
carillons from churchs on the Mediterranean sea.  and a Messiaen-esque
mode.  The chance processes give the images of concentric circles
colliding and reflecting of each other.

Jeff
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: dolphy
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:22:21 GMT

In article <921001151733.2560c29b@UNHH.UNH.EDU> "(Russ Gelinas)" <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU> writes:
>  As luck would have it, I just stumbled across (and bought) an Eric Dolphy
>CD:  "Eric Dolphy & Booker Little Remembered Live at Sweet Basil", with
>Mal Waldron, Richard Davis, Eddie Blackwell, Donald Harrison, and
>Terence Blanchard.   Ah, Bullshit!  I just opened the box, and it's not
>*by* Dolphy and Little, it's *about* them.  Harrison and Blanchard play
>sax and trumpet with Dolphy's original rhythm section, recorded in 1986
>at Sweet Basil.  Bastards.  It's got this great cover of 60's vintage Dolphy
>playing at Sweet Basil, just to pull in suckers like me.  Who are Harrison
>and Blanchard?  Oh well, the other 3 are bound to be hot.  I hope at least
>the recording quality will be better than a 25 year old version.
>
>  ProJazz label, btw.  Be forewarned.
>
>Russ

You aren't the first.  I knew about it from the cover, because it was
the 5 Stop, not Sweet Basil, which isn't around today, or wasn't around
back them.  When my friend bought it, I assumed he knew it wasn't
Dolphy.  I assumed he did.  He didn't.  He was pissed.
Not at the music, but at the con job.
It shows how much they were into copying back then.

Since then, Harrison has refreshing New Orleans side out, using some drumming
from the Mardi Gras Indians. 

Most of Blanchard still is a Wynton clone, but occasionally he breaks
out of it.  He covered Ornette's Lonely Woman, so at least they know
there is more to jazz than being a bebop nazi.

Jeff

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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:02:26 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      electronic music

Here's my 2 cents on this:

If you think about it, without electronic music, we would be
back somewhere in the big band era, listening to scratches and grooves
on wax cylinders and 78s.
We would also be listening to the avant garde post-impressionistic
compositions on standard orchestra instruments.
At the concert hall.
No, there would be no LPs, or amplifiers.
That came much later.
There would not be crystal clear recordings of classical compositions
on CDs (how's that for an alliteration?)
There would be no electronic signal processing, to make the
music sound transparent or deep and resounding.
There would be no tape recording.
There would be no radio shows from the late forties.
There would be no radio.
There would be no synchronized light shows, no theramins, no
distortion/feedback, no synthesizers, no samplers, no drum machines,
no sequencers, no video games with music--none of these.
Quite a boring place to be.

True, there is a lot of crappy technopop music out there, but if you
include the pioneers like Wendy Carlos, Laurie Anderson, Vangelis,
Isao Tomita, Kitaro, David Byrne, Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, etc.,
it's hard to say that "electronic music" is an oxymoron.
It's a tool like anything else--some use it tastefully, and others
abuse it (they overuse it, they use it as a crutch for bad pieces--
novices at work).  Some people hate it because they don't have access to it.
Some people hate it because they think it makes things too easy for them
to compose.  Some people hate it because it sounds artificial.
Some people hate it because they are overwhelmed by it.
Some people hate it because it takes the humanness away from music.
All of these people could be true.
I happen to like it because it opens so many doors for music that weren't
there before.  I don't have to be a noble to hire an orchestra to
play my music.  I don't have to learn a million instruments to get the
sound and texture I want.  Sure, the real instruments are three dimensional
in sound--no denying the fact that acoustic instruments are organic;
but you can't link up a light show fantastique to a group of acoustic
instruments without going electronic.  Electronic music is a tool--
what you get from it is what you put into it.  Live with it.

I can imagine a world without electronic music,
but it isn't as big and colourful as my world.

Mike Masuda.
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:01:48 EDT
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject: Monday afternoon stupidity. No OMC

>this, but i will defend the blues i have also defended some country and i'd
>do the same for jazz and classical.

  Whoa!  Hey, I think I speak for all the jazz folk and
classical folk when I say this: thanks, but no thanks,
big guy.

             -Tim
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:50:55 EDT
From:         RTURNBUL@TOROVM1.VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      Odds and Sods...

What a list! So much to comment on and so little time before my stomach tells
me to go home for supper...

Personnally, I love the blues AND heavy metal. From the legend of Robert
Johnson to the Kings (B.B. and Albert) to the sorely missed astonishing talents
of Stevie Ray Vaughan (saw him live 4 times...WOW!!), the blues has always been
a much rawer sound that depended on the emotions and feelings of those playing
it...And from the early Deep Purple and Led Zeppelin (who stole one or two
blues licks in their time) to mid-late-70s Rainbow and Iron Maiden to
today's Metallica and hard edged Grunge, hard rock (I prefer that to heavy
metal) has always appealed a bit more to the basic guttural levels in many of
us...

By the way, if you think that three chords is all you need to write a blues
song, then I guess AC/DC is one of the greatest blues bands ever!  B-)

On a more interesting thread, here's a selection of some of my favourite
vocalists:

   1) Maggie O'Reilly (I might have the name wrong here - my brain's mush, I've
been here too long - but this is the girl who sang on many of Mike Oldfield's
early 80s albums. One of the purest, sweetest voices I've heard).
   2) Kate Bush
   3) Fish (Marillion's _Misplaced Childhood_ is one of my all time faves)
   4) Sarah McLachlan
   5) Geddy Lee (sue me, I love Rush - anyway he's sounded a lot less like a
guinea pig since _Signals_)

OK, next topic. I'm glad to see someone sticking up for Jethro Tull. I never
really heard anyone put down Tull after they won the Grammy (it was more like
'Jethro Tull is Heavy Metal??'), but no one gave them any credit either. That
comment was right on the nose about _Aqualung_, but I'd have to say my
favourite Tull albums are _Songs From The Woods_ and _Heavy Horses_. Both had
some great acoustic songs with Celtic influences, but they also had some Tull
standard fare like "Hunting Girl" and "Sweet Dreams".

Speaking of bagpipes and Big Country, has anyone heard anything about them
lately (Big Country that is)? They came out with _Peace In Our Time_ a few
years back (not a great album) and they've gone incommunicado since then. I
hope they're still out there because their first three albums were really fresh
sounding and had some excellent drumming...

As far as Sinead goes, the less said the better. I saw the end of her second
song on SNL and 'eerie' is the perfect word for it. Total silence in the crowd.

Carol, are you sure you didn't get lyrics with _Us_? I don't have the CD with
me here, but I could've sworn all the lyrics followed the artwork...

Michelle, I have a few friends who've joined Columbia. And rejoined. And
rejoined. And...It's a pretty good deal if you get the 8 free, buy another 3
or 4, quit and then join up again. Great way to replace old albums with CDs.
I'm about to join myself...

Later,

Bob T
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:45:53 MEZ
From:         Paul Hosken <RMCB@DLRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Best TV program this weekend

Requarding radio stations, I can give you a tip. Try listening to
Sudfunk Stuttgart 3. Although you won't hear any revolutionary new
music what it does play is well selected, and the DJs know what they're
talking about and don't assume that all listeners are morons (like
Bayern 3). My favourite broadcasts are Dr.Music (evenings about 8) and
the Sunday morning 10-12 program where each week they talk in detail
about a different subject (which could be South African, women
musicians, eating in Germany, etc. - varied, well put together and
researched, and very listenable).

Paul

PS: Don't get this station mixed up with Sudwestfunk, which is something
    totally different. If you want I can let you have the exact frequency.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:25:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      Chicago tour dates

forwarded without permission from the Moody Blues list:

For the person who asked, the folowing dates on the Moodies tour are
co-headliners with Chicago:

1/10 Wilkes-Barr, Pa   College
2/10 Annapolis, Pa    Naval Academy
3/10 Atlantic City, Nj   Taj Mahal
4/10 Hershey, Pa   Coliseum
5/10  Off
6/10 Kalamazoo, Mich
7/10 Columbus, Oh
8/10 Fort Wayne, In
9/10 Toledo, Oh   Sports Arena
10/10 Detroit, Mich   Palace Auburn Hills
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Date:         Fri, 25 Sep 1992 22:04:46 EDT
From:         WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET
Subject:      Cage's anechoic dilemma

I don't know if this will get through - it might show up twice - sorry if
it does - problems with our network tonight :

My local radio station has been playing a new Suzanne Vega tune called
"Blood Makes Noise". It's a pretty spacey song, but it sounds like old
Suzanne is being bugged by the bees in her bonnet, much as Cage was pissed
when the anechoic chamber idea flopped. Them thar little capillaries just
keep wailin away...

                                                     ... walt ...
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 13:59:07 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: female blues singer
              5 Oct 1992 12:48:32 -0400 from <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>

Tsk, tsk, Leonard. . .

You're gonna have to explain why you don't like females fronting your blues
band.

I'll save my flames for after your explanation. . .

Michelle "Female Blues Singers Unite!!" May
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:38:45 CDT
From:         Dave Hall <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject: Re: Announcement
              1 Oct 1992 16:26:13 -0400 from <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>

On Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:26:13 -0400 The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny said:
>>Since its all over.  The CMA awards is what I was talking about.  I hope that
>>all turned in to see Acky Breaky Heart get Single of the Year.
>
>"Acky Breaky Heart", eh? Is that the new tune by Billy and the Boingers?
>
>  |\ ,
>   0.o
>  =( )=
>    U   <Phhpt
>
>-Adam
 BWAAAAAAAHaaaaaaahaaaaaaaaahaaaaahahahaaaaahhhaaaaaaaaaahhaaaaaahaaaaaahaa
haaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaahaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaaaahaaaaahaaaaahaaa!  Hee
Heee!  Oh man, that's so cool.  I think I wet myself.

U Stink But I Love U - Billy & the Boingers

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Rev. Dave Hall               |  "We are all born mad. Some remain so."
usts060@uabdpo.dpo.uab.edu   |          -- Samuel Beckett
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:29:44 EDT
From:         "Fletch F. Fletch" <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Top 100

From: MAMAY%WAYNEST1.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU at INTERNET 10/6/92 11:56AM (1077
Subject: Re: CD Clubs and Cheezwhiz

>OOOHH!! Did our little feelings get hurt because us ALLMUSICER's don't want
>to play with you, Lenny and Mikey anymore, huh, Gary (pout, pout?) ;-)
>I don't claim to speak for the network, but it's funny how at least a few
>other people on the net agreed with my post for you guys to "take it outside".

Ah yes, but others have said they were interested in it. You can't please
everybody, so don't ever try.

--------------

From: SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU at INTERNET 10/6/92 12:12PM (5600 bytes: 124 ln
Subject: Top Allmusic Posters

Scott, are you nuts? This must've taken you some time! I saw this list a
few weeks ago. It's huge! And everybody's numbers of postings are all spread
out over different addresses.

Anyway, for the record both of these are me:

 48  Gary M. Gettier                150
 59  Fletch F. Fletch               128

 So that gives me 278 and puts me at #17 right in front of the Chrome-Plated
 Megaphone of Destiny.

 Seeya,
 Gary
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:04:28 EDT
From:         WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET
Subject:      Classical top ten

I'm not the expert you need, but I'm the amateur you want, so here goes:
1. Bach Brandenburg Concertos, especially # 5.
2. Bach Goldberg Variations, as done on harpsichord.
3. Vivaldi - The Four Seasons - I think it's beautiful...
4. Any of Mozart's Piano Sonatas, (here you go, Theresa)
5. Jimi Hendrix: Voodoo Chile live in Electric Ladyland studios, with Chris
   Wood, Steve Winwood (Traffic), Jack Cassidy (Airplane).


...well i'm standing next to a mountain, and i chop it down with the edge
        of my hand......
...might be enough to make an island, gonna raise a little sand ........

                                                  ... walt ...
From: CURSO09@UNALCOL.BITNET (Johann Sinuhe Ramon Rojas)
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Subject: Software
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:28:15 GMT
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Hi, I'm Johann from Colombia (UNALCOL), I'm new in the ALLMUSIC list and I
want to know if I can find (and eventually get) musical Software packages.

Also:
 Does anybody here knows the european group "La Mano Negra" ?, they're really
 great.

That's all folks.
         Johann Sin.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:17:26 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Now where were we ?
              28 Sep 1992 11:52:43 EDT from <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>

Scott's original query:
>>>
>>>>BTW, does anyone know who did the score for _Once Upon A Time in America_?
>>>>Its absolutely haunting and wonderful!

Rick's timid tentative guess:
>>>
>>>         Also Morricone, no?

Chuck's assertion:
>>
>>   Yes, Morricone, but wasn't the flick entitled _Once Upon A Time In The
>>West_??  Damn, there's another nit ... got him ...
    ... followed by an enthusiastic recommendation of John Zorn's Morricone
        tribute, The Big Gundown.

Then Scott repeats his original request, emphasizing that he wasn't misinformed
about the title:

>I'm not sure we're talking about the same film here.  The one I'm speaking of
>is definitely called _Once Upon a Time in America_, has Robert DeNiro and James
>Woods in it, and is about a bunch of Jewish gangsters.

Rick's confidant (and more informed) acknowledgement that all 3 of us our
  correct:

Morricone composed BOTH "Once Upon a Time in" 's.
"...the West" was made in 1969; "...America" in 1984.
An OCLC search reveals that the soundtrack to "...America" is on Mercury
compact disc 822 334-2; all music is composed by our absolutely haunting and
wonderful Ennio Morricone.

A fistful of info,
Rick, once upon a time in Western New York
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
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Subject: Re: Top 5 Lead Vocalists!!!!!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:53:38 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

T9014170@PHILLIP.EDU.AU writes:

>Since people have been doing favorite guitarists I've decided
>to do singers as well:

Oh, goodie!

1) Geoff Tate.  Disbelievers should pick up the single of "Anybody Listening?"
	and listen to the back side - a cover of "Scarborough Fair."  Why he's
	singing progressive metal and not opera, I'll never know, but I don't
	mind.

2) David Gilmour.  Disbelievers should pick up his solo album "About Face."
	Very smooth, peaceful voice that almost makes you ignore disturbing
	lyrics.

3) Peter Gabriel.  If voice "character" was all that mattered, he'd win.

4) Bruce Dickerson.  The chorus of "Aces High" is, well, great.

5) Joe Elliot.  Another character-laden voice.  Very flexible.

[I'd have included a female vocalist on this list, but I'm not familiar with
any non-pop groups with female leads, other than L7.  L7's vocalist would be
very good, but on the one song I've heard, she demonstrates a vocal range of
about _half_ an octave.  Ack.]

-Shag
-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
From: MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET (Michelle May)
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Date: 6 Oct 92 15:56:12 GMT
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              5 Oct 1992 17:31:00 EST from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

OOOHH!! Did our little feelings get hurt because us ALLMUSICER's don't want
to play with you, Lenny and Mikey anymore, huh, Gary (pout, pout?) ;-)
I don't claim to speak for the network, but it's funny how at least a few
other people on the net agreed with my post for you guys to "take it outside".

That said,  I thank you for the tip on the CD club--I'm still thinkin' on it,
though.

Michelle "Don't Mess With Me, It's Not Pretty" May
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Date:         Fri, 25 Sep 1992 21:46:44 CDT
From:         Titivillus <T9AA@SDSUMUS.SDSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Halloween Music

Friend of the Devil - the American Beauty version (Lyle sings his
                      version like he's asleep and the Grisman-
                      Garcia is just TOO laid back for Halloween)

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
 Got a wife in Chino and one in Cherokee
 First one says she got my child but it don't look like me
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:18:03 CDT
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From:         Little Inquisitor <U17801@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Halloween Music

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On Fri, 25 Sep 1992 21:00:59 CDT you said:
>I'll soon be doing my usual DJ routine at an annual Halloween
>Party.  I thought this year I'd try to go with a Halloween-ish
>theme.  I'd like to know if anyone could help out with some
>suggestions.  So far I'm thinking:   Hotel California, Bat Out of Hell,
>Werewolves of London,  Runnin With the Devil & Witchy Woman.
>
>Thanks in advance!!!
>
>Debbie
###############################

 Debbie: You could try "I put a spell on you" (Screamin' Jay Hawkins).  Make a
huge blow-up of this album's cover.  A sure winner.  Or else reproduce the cove
r of "What that is" (with Screamin Jay inside a coffin, holding the upper side
of the coffin with his arm). Pretty scary stuff. And if you really want to go a
ll out play his timeless "Constipation Blues" (from the latter LP).  If that do
esn't scare them check your audience for a pulse.

                                                 Renato
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