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From: vkr@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Dream Team Poll
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:20:21 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Hello Baseball fans!

Have you ever wanted to be in a rotessirie league but found it difficult since 
college begins in August and communication between members becomes difficult? 
How about if all your members go to your college and summer comes along and 
again communication is hard to maintain?  The net-Rotessirie is the solution.

I am forming a league in which these problems are avoided.  Ok, it is not
really a league but rather a dream team-type pool.  Each member submits a
selection of players who they feel will be hot this year--these players would
make up your team.  Then your team will be judged or ranked against other
members' teams.  The winner is the one whose team ranks the highest compared
to the other teams.

The selection of players are based upon certain criteria that I have formed.
If you are sincerely interested in this venture please contact me by e-mail at
vkr@vax5.cit.cornell.edu or at my home number 1-607-253-5812.  This program
might cost a very small amount per team to cover expenses and to give awards
to the winning teams.

By the way, a preliminary team should be in by opening day; however, since 
opening day has come already, I will extend the deadline to April 23.
Any changes will also take place in the first three weeks of play--sent to me
via e-mail or the phone.  After that your team is final until classes resume
again in August (at which time I will post the current rankings and 
statistics).  Crunch time starts now.  Each change on the roster may make the 
difference.  The stats used to calculate your ranking are cumulative; in 
other words, if you held a player from August 29 to September 27, you will
receive his stats for September 2 to September 30 (changes in week don't
become final until the Wednesday after the change).  However, any changes in
the first three weeks of play won't be cumulative, i.e., if you change a 
player in this time period it will seem as though you had him from the 
beginning.

This method allows people to maintain a constant, strong team for most of the
year but gives them a chance to catch up with the leader in the last month or
so until Playoffs (Playoff stats don't count).

Bye,
	Rahul Saggar

P.S. there might be few changes in this format which I will send to interested
members.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Saturday, 11 Apr 1992 01:37:00 EDT
From: <DGS4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Trivia: Strikeouts, Career & Season

We had a few trivia questions about homers during a player's career
and season, so I thought I'd post a similar one on Ks.

There are 6 pitchers who have more than 2,000 career strikeouts, but
never struck out 200 or more in any one season.  Name them>

Bonus Questions:  There is one pitcher with more than 2,000 career Ks,
who did strike out 200 exactly one year, and that was his top year.  Who
is he?

There is one pitcher with more than 2,000 career Ks who once struck out
more than 300 batter in one season, but never again exceeded 200.  Who is he?


Good Luck.

Dennis Shea
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI)
Subject: good calls (now FOR the Expos)
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:18:43 GMT


OK,I figure if I'm going to complain about something, I have to give out
compliments when they are deserved.

In the next inning of the same Expos/Mets game, Tim Wallach was trying
to steal 3rd.  He was out by about 3 feet, but as he was sliding into
3rd, the 3-baseban (whoever that is) for the Mets just left his glove out
in front of the base, waiting fo Wallach to step into it.
But Timmy does some strange kind of a slide where he stops and then when
the 3-baseman lifts up his glove, Tim steps under him.
If you can picture what I have just re-played, you will agree that the
ump must have read my previous post , because otherwise he would've called
Wallach out, even before seeing the end of the play.

Great call.

Great game (4-0 vs Cone :-)

--Dave
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: aardvark@locus.com (Warren Usui)
Subject: Re: Really bad, lame-o regulars on WS winners
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:15:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.144310.22862@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> dxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas Fowler) writes:
>
>     YOu forget the right fielder for the Dodgers at the start of the season.
>Of course, I forget his name, so I don't blame you (Mike Davis, or something
>like that?).  He hit about 25 HRs once in an Oakland uniform, but went to
>L.A. and hit a Ruthian .197, with 2-3 dingers. :-) (Well, it was Ruth in '35!)
>He's the answer to the question:  Who walked in front of Kirk Gibson's homer in
>the 9th inning of game 1 of the '88 WS.  There is not much more memorable
>about him.

	The Dodgers also played that World Series with John Shelby in 
center, Micky Hatcher in left, Franklin Stubbs at first, Jeff Hamilton
at third, and the immortal Alfredo Griffin at short.    

-- 
Warren Usui
aardvark@locus.com
uunet!lcc!aardvark
From: klund@hecate.gac.edu (Kevin T Lund)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: MATT YOUNG TOSSES NO-HITTER, LOSES 2-1
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:24:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Apr14.092459.870

In article <1992Apr13.182547.2133@stat.appstate.edu>  writes:
> I'm surprised that no one picked up on the fact that if
> Young gave up 7 hits in 8 innings he probably would have 
> won the game.  It's tough to win when your power hitters are
> hitting below 200.

How's that?  I must be missing something here.  Do you mean that if he  
gave up 7 hits, he would have pitched a shutout and won for some reason?   
The safest way to put someone on base is a walk - one base, runners can't  
advance.  If he gave up seven hits, there could have been a couple homers  
and maybe he loses by more than 2-1.  I will agree with you on your last  
sentance though.

Kevin L
> 
> Dr. J
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (DAVID BONAR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Dodger Roster Move
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:49:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr6.145321.12926
Reply-To: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
Organization: News and Views from LSU
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-10848]: sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

In article <204471@unix.cis.pitt.edu>, rrmst3@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Roberto R Molinari) writes...
>In article <ktvtsdINN97d@mizar.usc.edu> pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger) writes:
>>The Dodgers made a somewhat surprising move today.  They place Jay
>>Howell on the 15 day disabled list 
> 
>AAARRRGGGHH... Is this really true?  I just made an 8 player deal in my
>rotisserie league last night and received Jay Howell to strenghthen my weak
>pen and he's already hurt?  What's wrong with him now?  Is the DL retroactive?

	I assume that its retroactive.  There have been rumors all spring 
that Howell would go on the DL.  The injury is listed as shoulder in USA
Today but I do not have any info on severity.

Dave
__________
Dave Bonar
eebonar@lsuvax.sncc.lsu.edu
Go Astro's  [motto: More Bang for the buck (but still a little short)]
__________
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: justus@cat6.cs.wisc.edu (Curtis Justus)
Subject: Re: Baseball stats
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:02:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.012855.18760@asd.com> scott@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.212818.1582@ccs.QueensU.CA> scott@rakoth.ic.cmc.ca writes:
>>Are there any sites or services that provide current
>>stats (ftp or equivalent)?  I noticed a 1-800 number
>>in Baseball Weekly but I can't access it from Canada.
>
>I thought someone was working on a FAQ posting.  Is this still in the works?
>Who is doing this?  This is something that can be added to it.

But, the problem is that in the past, when the question was asked, not too
many responses, if any, were sent as a reply or posted.  I had to post
this question 3 times before I received a response :(.

Oh well, it is a good idea for the FAQ, however.

cj

-- 
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*                             *                                             *
* Curtis Justus               *  "Would someone get Gary Sheffield his      *
* justus@garfield.cs.wisc.edu *   bottle?"  Rick McKinley, no one important *
*                             *                                             *
*           "I love you, too - but I'm not going to smile :)"               *
* ***************************************************************************
From: henze@girtab.usc.edu (William Henze)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Twins choke
Date: 9 Apr 1992 16:06:27 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

Bottom of the 9th Grand Slam to lose the game.  Brings back all
of those *fond* memories of my hero Ron Davis.  Guess the Twins
won't win all their games this year...

Haven't seen a box score yet.  I hope Smiley did OK.  He didn't exactly
have a stellar Spring

Bill
Go Twins
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: david j warner <dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Gary's sig
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 10:47:04 -0500

In article <1992Apr8.062458.17178@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> lyle@chainsaw.ecn.purdue.edu (Lyle Youngblood) writes:
> *    Gary Huckabay    * "They sent Brosius down."  "So Lansford has the job?" *
> *   "A considerably   * "Yep.  And it looks like Bordick has won the 2B job." *
> *  shorter fuse than  * "I guess I better make postseason plans now." "Good   *
> *    Sherri Nichols." *  idea.  Call Puget Sound Airways." - GH & EG.         *
>
>    Or maybe you could fly into Indy.  There's a place called Don's Guns.
>His motto is "I don't care about money, I just LOVE to sell guns."  Hell, I'm
>not even an A's fan and I'd spring for the ammo....<grin><no offense intended

It was only a matter of time before I saw somebody crack on Don's Guns
somewhere on this net.  A friend of mine clipped a newspaper ad of his, which
showed him aiming a 9mm a the camera and smiling maniacally as he always does.
I wonder what he thinks of the A's lack of ammo...
 
>--
>All men are equal, Colnel Colt made 'em that way - Old West Proverb
>Political power flows from the barrell of a gun - Mao Tse-tung
>Same thought, different words - Lyle Youngblood
>lyle@chainsaw.ecn.purdue.edu


-- 
- David J. Warner            - "Maybe (Montross) plays better after he gets   -
- dwarner@ucs.indiana.edu    -  hit on the head."                             -
- (One for all...            -                              - Dean Smith      -
-             BRAND NUBIAN!) -                                                -
From: solensky@animal.clearpoint.com (Frank T. Solensky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Mets colors (was Re: Mets and Yankees)
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:46:25 GMT
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corp.

In article <L1TcJB5w164w@banana.ithaca.ny.us> henning@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Henning Pape-Santos) writes:

   About the colors: I thought you knew that the Mets' uniform colors 
   were chosen to serve as reminders of the Dodgers (blue) and Giants 
   (orange).

The "official colors" of the '64-65 World's Fair in Flusing Meadow was the
same orange and blue: I thought that was the basis of the Mets' colors..
--
				-- Frank Solensky / Clearpoint Research
Red Sox magic number: 159
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: rl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Lamoureux)
Subject: Re: Rockies Uniforms:  WHen will They be unfailed?
Reply-To: rl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Robert Lamoureux)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:52:27 GMT

In article <4dv6Sne00VpB0znF5P@andrew.cmu.edu> cl3d+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carl D. Lovejoy) writes:
>
>	Have the Rockies Uniforms been unfailed yet?  If not when do they plan
                                       ^^^^^^^^
>on doing it?
>
>Carl

Ah, the "expansion team" jokes would just be too easy here...
From: mab50312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark A. Blickhan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Eckersley NOT better than Fingers
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:16:21 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

kenneth@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
>Wrong.  I would take Eck today over Fingers.  He is a much better pitcher
>today than Fingers is today.  He's a lot YOUNGER, of course! :)

>
>Ken

But have you SEEN Rollie recently???
He's got that handlebar moustache ready for a comeback!
Well, only for the Old Timers (I mean Upper Deck Heroes of Baseball) game.

Mark Blickhan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: rjs@home.merit.edu (Robert J. Skrobola)
Subject: Re: Fielder will win the Triple Crown
Organization: Merit Network, Inc.  Ann Arbor, MI
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 22:23:20 GMT

In article <11988@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Overshadowed By Fate Huckabay) writes:
>x90townsen12@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>
>
>>> Anyway, he'll hit .320 with 44 HR and 132 RBIs
>
>I'll take that bet.  Here's a net.bet that he won't make 90% of ANY of
>the listed numbers.  That's a .288 BA, 40 HR, and 119 RBI.  He won't
>reach ANY of those plateaus.  Anyone else willing to stand on a table
>at a local pub and sing "I'm a Little Teapot" if they lose that bet?
>

I'll pass on the singing, but after 94 homers and about 250 RBI over
the last two seasons, plus 3 homers and eight RBI in the first two
games, I'll take the bet that he'll reach 40 and/or 119. 

What evidence might you produce that would suggest otherwise? 

I mean, geez, he isn't going to hit .280 most likely, and the SB thing
was in fun, but what would lead you to think the guy will crash?

		Rob
-- 
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Rob Skrobola      Institutional File Server Project
Normal Disclaimer: I speak only for myself
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From: ky0l+@andrew.cmu.edu (King-Han Yao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: orioles record?
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:57:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gduOxJm00UhW43UG09
Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

AL East

       W  L
Tor    6  0
NY     5  0
Bos    2  3
Bal    2  4
Cle    2  4
Mil    2  4
Det    0  6


Baltimore faces Boston at Fenway with Milacki against Viola.

The Yanks and the Jays battle for first place tonight.
Cadaret vs. Stottlemyre (Cadaret lost the only game he pitched against
the Jays last year, but he only gave up 1 run in 8 and 2/3 innings).

The Yanks better take advantage of this great chance to beat the Jays
for first place.  It might be their only chance at it all year.  If
Mattingly is back to form, with Kelly, Tartabull, and Hall, the offense
will be good enough to take the Yanks to above .500 this year, but only
if the starters can keep it up!



-------------
King Yao                       
Economics 
Class of '92                   
Carnegie Mellon
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Least Valuable Players (career)
Date: 12 Apr 92 03:37:56 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr12.014408.6749@cs.umn.edu> lsmith@cs.umn.edu (Lance "Cogsworth" Smith) writes:
>Um, if Alfredo is such a source of talent and leadership why haven't one of
>these three teams held onto him? If a player is a key part of winning then
>usually a good organization will try to keep them. 

Now here's an interesting stat:

Toronto gets rid of Griffin after the 1984 season:
	In 1985, they win their first divisional title.

Oakland gets rid of Griffin after the 1987 season:
	In 1988, they make the World Series for the first time in 14 years.

Los Angeles gets rid of Griffin after the 1991 season:
	In 1992, ???

-- 
Ted Frank          + "He wanted to be the car rather than the thimble or the
1307 E 60 St, #109 +  hat."  -- District attorney explaining Marc Cienkowski's
U o' C Law Skool   +  murder with bow and arrow of Michael Klucznik in
Chi, IL 60637      +  Doylestown Borough, PA over a game of Monopoly.
From: reynard@susie.cs.scarolina.edu (John Reynard)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: NY MET ENVY
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:12:29 GMT
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science


Not suffering from Met's Envy but suffering from having a brain which for you 
I doubt is fully functional.  I think you have read too much Freud and too much
of the NY propaganda.  

I will now point out the logical fallacies in your arguement.

1) As to the Mets Superior starters:
Cone is really good however Gooden, Fernandez, Saberhagen have questions over
their head.  This does not look like a stable rotation to me.  Both Sberhagen
and Fernandez sucked in their first starts.  The Mets mow have a 7.71 ERA as 
a team.  I know this is after three games but they were facing the anemic 
Cardinals offense so I don't expect them to be wonderful later in the year.

2)As to having three of the top switchhitting powerhitters ever that just 
means you have three average powerhitters not that they are real great or
anything.  I'd much rather have Whitaker, Fielder, Deer if all you want is 
power from three guys.

3) Coleman???
  Bwahahahahahahahaha
Sorry but if he hits .285 with a .350 OBP I will say he is good but I don't 
think so.  If you want a basestealing threat you have to get on base first.

6) Attorney:  This alone should show why many people dislike the Mets.
They are a bunch of egotistical guys who think they can get away with 
anything.  I hope that if they did do it they rot in some Ga. prison
while being sodomized by some big guy named Leroy.

7) If both Randolph and Magadan have .400OBP then the Mets will be good.
however if any team got two guys to have .400 OBP then they would be good.
It's not going to happen.

8) Franco has questions to his effectiveness.  His poor pitching last year
cost the Mets a lot of games.

9)  As to the bullpen who the hell are Gibson and Dewey.  They couldn't even
get out the Cardinals offense.

As to your other reasons.

Yes the NL East is weak this year.  All around.  The Mets are in a position 
to contend but aren't the great all and mighty you seem to think.

John
Go Expos
Delino getting a inside the park homer.
From: bobd@.uucp (Bob Donaldson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Bill James' Game Score
Summary: What about outs on the bases??
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:44:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.195514.16740@u.washington.edu>, sgs@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith) writes:
> 
> HOW TO CALCULATE GAME SCORES IN 9 EASY STEPS AND 2 SHORT CUTS
> All information is available in standard, everyday box scores.
> 
> 1.  Start with 50 points.
> 2.  Add 1 for each batter retired.
> 3.  Add 2 for each inning completed beyond the 4th.
>     (NOTE: rules 2 and 3 mean that innings 1 through 4 are worth
>      3 points and innings 5 through 9 and beyond are worth 5.)

I think you are missing something here.  My recollection is that step 2
above is designed to count the BATTERS that a pitcher retires NOT all
the outs that are recorded.  He would not get credit for a CS (nor be
penalized for a SB), would not get extra credit for a DP/TP or for a
runner gunned down on the basepaths (e.g. trying to score from 1st on
a 2B or trying to stretch a 1B into a 2B).  Admittedly, this makes it
a little harder to calculate from a standard box score, but it gets at
the real point of the GS.  If BJ had really wanted to simply score 3
points each for the first 4 innings and 5 points each for the rest, I
expect that he would have simply said it that way!

<<Rest of formula & Short Cut deleted>>


-=-
These views are barely my own - I won't even share them with my employers,
so I doubt they share them with me.

Bob Donaldson              radian!bobd@natinst.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: More on errors/hits
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:07:18 GMT

In article <10010559@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)  
writes:

> infield.  In any case, it seems to me the kinds of errors most likely to
> result in extra bases are on the throw, not the batted ball.  That is,  
either
> a wild throw (probably equally likely at third or short, less so at second)
> or a blown catch of the throw by the first baseman.  I'll further wager  
that
> "most" of a first baseman's errors are of this variety (blown catch of a  
throw,
> not necessarily resulting in extra bases).
> 
> Thus, proportionally, I'll suspect first baseman to have a higher  
percentage
> of errors result in extra bases - say, 19%; third and short about equal at  
16%,
> and second baseman 13%.

I'd guess that most are from wild throws and guess that they increase as you  
go around the horn. But so do bobbles so I'll modify my guesses to Sherri 
(I guessed to low on the 15.5% question) as say
1b: 5%, 2b:13%  SS:20%, 3B:17%

seeing, hearing 
john rickert
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Blue Jays win 4-2
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 06:03:34 GMT

In article <18367@ector.cs.purdue.edu> gritter@cs.purdue.EDU (Carl R. Gritter) writes:

>Winfield looks like he'll improve the DH position dramatically.  What
>a way to start!

I have no idea why you Jays "fans" are so down on Rance Mulliniks.  Mulliniks
had his worst year ever offensively, I think, last year, and he was still not
very much below Winfield, who figures to decline more than Mulliniks since he's
way older.  Winfield definitely out-slugged Mulliniks (.472 to .333) but got
on base at a not insignificant rate less (.326 to .364).  Given that Anaheim
stadium inflates homers, I don't think the difference between Winfield and
Mulliniks is as big as everyone proclaims.  To put things in perspective,
I believe Mulliniks' .364 OBP was the second best on the team (behind John
Olerud).  Yes, better than Devon White and Roberto Alomar, and those were the
only two other OBPs worth talking about on the Jays.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
Charter Member of the Acker-o-phobics Anonymous
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Barry Larkin injury
From: mehta@ucunix.san.uc.edu (mehta)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 15:54:35 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Apr15.203920.15316@u.washington.edu> abg144@milton.u.washington.edu (Andrew Gross) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.194351.17096@athena.cs.uga.edu> steele@athena.cs.uga.edu (Frank Steele) writes:
>
>Word is a bruise above his elbow.  The Reds have an off day tomorrow, so he
>should be back for the Giants' series at the 'stick over the weekend (along
>with Rob Dibble!).
>
>BTW, I don't know if this is the same elbow which got hit by a pitch yesterday.
>(Seeing Belcher knock down Olson in retaliation the next inning warmed my 
>heart). 
>
>Does anyone know the status of Sabo's injury?  Baseball Weekly makes it sound
>as if he might not be ready by the time he comes off the DL in 10 days or so,
>but I have also heard via e-mail from someone who apparently gets a paper that
>reports Reds news that Sabo is already jogging, and is upset about having 
>been put on the 15 day DL, so I am rather confused.  IMHO, the return of Sabo
>will be a lot more important to the Reds than the return of Dibble, unless
>Dibble decides to do his imitation of God again (like the first half of last
>season).
>
On the same note...I heard on the radio that Hal Morris has broken an
arm and will miss a month...I hope that's not the case but..

With Sabo out..Dibble, Larkin for couple days(?) and now Morris a month.
I wonder how the Reds will hold on.  The starting pitching has been
great which is a definite big plus.

Go REds

raj