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From: woody@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk (Ian Woodrow)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Hurricane in Miami
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:21:53 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service

I met someone from Bay Harbor Islands which I think is around MIA beach area.
The zippo is 33154.   OK, thing is - was that area hit by Andy ?  Is the
appartment likely to still be there ?


cheers,


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From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: Any info on biking in Denmark?
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:31:43

Mike Jittlov writes:
>QUICK!
>
>Log onto soc.culture.nordic
>
>I don't recall the exact name, but I believe the subject was
>"Mountain-Climbing in Denmark" [...]

The author of "Danish Mountaineering Vacation" responds:

Glad you liked it 8-)  But i think i should point out that
we didn't bicycle anywhere, owing to my own aversion to
bicycles.  We drove or walked.  

We got "scolded" for this by some of our friends who have been
bicycling in Denmark and say it's a fine way to see the country.
And it is true Denmark is very friendly to bikes - it is fairly
flat and the distances aren't that great.  Most of the well-traveled
roads also have seperate bike trails running along side them.  In
the cities many sidewalks are divided in two, either by a white line
or by being two-leveled - the outer part is for bikes and mopeds,
the inner part for pedestrians.  You can't ride your bike on the
motorways, but that's the only restriction.  There are also bike
racks all over the place in cities and towns.

Now i have a little spare time, so i'll give some suggestions
based on my experience:

Copenhagen:  The planetarium is great if that sort of thing
interests you.  There are shows in English every day.  I thought 
the toy museum was very interesting, too - they have everything 
from a Noah's Ark from the 1700's to a George Bush paper doll.
Nyhavn, the oldest part of the harbor, is a good thing to see, too -
lots of sailboats parked there, and lots of old buildings on both
sides.  You have to walk up and down "Str|get" at least once!
In the evening it isn't as crowded as during the day, but there are
still lots of street performers around until dark.

Eating in Copenhagen isn't cheap, but there's a mind-boggling 
number of choices.  Danish food is quite good, and it sticks with
you for a while afterwards.  The pastries and sweets are especially
dangerous 8-)

Funen (Fyn in Danish):  Of course you have Odense there, and it's
a nice city, smaller and calmer than Copenhagen.  The island isn't as
populated as Sj{lland (i think Zealand is the English name?), so
there's more nature to see as well.  Up on the peninsula coming out
of the northeast corner of the island, there are several
well-preserved old villages with the "bindingsverk" houses - you'll
know what they are soon after you get to Denmark 8-) - and windmills.

In Copenhagen there is a big tourist office on the railway station
side of Tivoli; in Odense it is in the city hall on the side facing
the pedestrian district.  By the way, everywhere we went in Denmark
we found free maps of the town available in the tourist office.

If you're not going to Jylland (Jutland), my mountaineering advice
isn't of much use... ;-)

Hope this helps!  And i hope you like Denmark as much as i did.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway



Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Bicycles and London (UK) tube system
Keywords: bicycles, London UK
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:30:09 GMT

amandla@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Jackie Saul) wrote: 
->... A childs fare is payable 
->for the byke. There are rush hour restrictions - within 30 miles of London you 
->can't travel between 7.45am - 9.45am and 4.30pm - 6.30pm,unless you are 
->travelling against peak flow.

note that most international flights from north america land between
6-9am, so the rush hour blackout may mean you lose here (note that the
underground line from heathrow does get quite busy as it approaches
london, and there's no real place to stow a bicycle on underground
cars.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<24490@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:44:06

Robert Hanners writes:
>In rec.travel, d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell) writes:
> In Sweden you usually find 4 to 8 people at a big roadwork site
>>where they put new covering on the road or something but over in the
US it
>>wasn't uncommon to see 10-20 persons, one holding a sign saying
'SLOW', one
>>driving a car with a 'follow me' sign, four or five just standing
around and
>>so on and so on.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>How insensitive!  They not just "standing around"; they're SUPERVISING!

I worked as a flagman (a.k.a. Human Signpost) in Pennsylvania for a
short while, and i can tell you they're not supervising.  They are
doing a far more important job, namely guarding the donuts.

Left to themselves, donuts might run away, you know 8-)

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway

You can't get to heaven on the Frankford El.

Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
From: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (kevinh)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Originator: kevinh@mira
Reply-To: kevinh@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:06:59 GMT


In article <1992Sep1.084130.2377@aber.ac.uk>, spk@uk.ac.aber (Stephen Kingston) writes:
|> ian@sinix.UUCP (Ian Malone) wrote:
|> 
|> > Well, because the economy and standard of living in the States is vastly
|> > superior to that of european countries, more Americans travel.  
|> 
|> Actually, I think that, per Capita, the British travel (abroad) more then 
|> any other nation.

No chance, it's easily the Dutch followed by the Germans, if only judging
by the traffic jams each summer and winter, full of Germans and Dutch tourists
as they travel to the snow/sun through Switzerland :-).

kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: The naming of the transit system in the Bay Area.
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:57:36 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

BART = Bay Area Rapid Transit
From: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Hurricane in Miami
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:00:21 GMT
Reply-To: nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <tki.18.0@atk.tpo.fi> tki@atk.tpo.fi (Tuukka Kirveskoski) writes:
>I would be grateful if you could provide me with the information
>concerning the destruction of Andrew in Miami City and Miami Beach.
>I'm planning a travel to that area next month and want to know
>what is the real situation there.

   If it were *me*, I would cancel the trip.  Most of the destruction
   was a bit south of Miami, but the whole area is pretty chaotic right
   now, with a lot of people in shelters, electricity out, drinking
   water at a premium, etc.  It will get sorted out in time, but "next
   month" is only a few days away, and I doubt very much things will
   be much better for several weeks, at best.

John


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  "Older women, make beautiful lovers - older women, they understand..."
    (song heard on radio, driving, one rainy night in Mississippi)
From: ar1f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Anuradha Ramaswami)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: London Tour buses
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:05:40 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Am sorry to repeat this question - but i had some problems with my
e-mail system last month and lost any replies i might have got during that time.
several posters had mentioned tour  buses in london that stop at
all the major attractions in the city about every 20 minutes and
one can hop on and off. another poster had mentioned open-top
bus tours around the city.

i am interested in specific info. about these tours - where does one board
them, and how much do they cost ? also, if anyone knows their hours of
operation, that would be useful too.
please e-mail responses. and thanks a lot for helping us with trip-planning.

-- anu.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:01:05 EDT
From: <U4400@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Any places near Cleveland?
 <oeaKz4200UhWM6PF55@andrew.cmu.edu>

In article <oeaKz4200UhWM6PF55@andrew.cmu.edu>, md2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mohanish
Deshmukh) says:
>
>I am driving up from Pittsburgh to the sea world at Aurora over the
>weekend and I was wondering if anyone could suggest a quiet, pleasent
>place to spend an extra day? Anything off Lake Erie?
>
The Cuyahoga National Recreation Area is a short drive from Sea World,
and has some really nice short hikes.  A place called "The Ledges" (maps
are available at several visitor areas - I think there is one off of
Route 8 marked on the map and signs leading to it) is really nice and
scenic.  If you really want Lake Erie, the Mentor Headlands is an OK
beach on that side of Cleveland.  Personally, I think the better Lake
Erie places are nearer Sandusky and the Islands, but that may have
changed now that those areas are getting more touristy than they used to
be.
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From: JOEL@jach.hawaii.edu (Joel Aycock)
Subject: Honolulu->Phoenix->Flagstaff $80: UPDATE
Organization: UK Infrared Telescope, Joint Astronomy Centre, Hawaii
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:44:36 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

Just found out that the AmericaWest one-way ticket (female) from Honolulu 
to Phoenix to Flagstaff on Sept 28 can be changed to any date before 
Dec 16, 1992 for $50, IF THE CHANGE IS MADE BEFORE SEPT 28.

So- if you need to travel between these places before Dec 16, please make 
an offer (ANY OFFER) now- EMAIL me direct at

	JOEL@JACH.HAWAII.EDU

or leave a message on my machine at

	808-968-6961

thanks & aloha-		joel.
From: neve@nlm.nih.gov (Leif Neve)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Hotel information for Copenhagen
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:41:48 GMT
Reply-To: neve@nlm.nih.gov
Organization: National Library of Medicine

In article 15152@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu, daver@ldgo.columbia.edu (dave reynolds) writes:

>I am looking for information for the following hotels in Copenhagen:
>Hotel Viking, Hotel Astoria, Mission hotels, Esplanaden, and
>Skovshoved (in Charlottenlund).  I would be interested to hear
>of how these rate in terms of location, cost, quality, etc.  For
>Skovshoved, I would be curious to know how easy it is to get to
>and from Copenhagen.  Any other suggestions would be welcome.  I will
>in Copenhagen in late September/early October, will off-season rates be
>in effect?

I stayed in Hotel Viking in June. While I can't compare it to any of the
others, I would say it was decent. I do have some complaints about the noise,
but that was more of a problem then because it was hot and they kept
the lounge windows open where folks made a lot of noise.

They served a nice enough breakfast and are just down the road from
Osterport Station. If you rent bikes at the Central Station like we did,
however,  the entire city is easily accesible.

Also,  staying at Hotel Viking makes you a sort of neighbor of Queen
Margrethe who lives just down the road at Amalienborg!

Leif Neve
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Subject: Re: Any info on biking in Denmark?
Keywords: help for my sister
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:37:40 GMT

sweeney@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Peggy Sweeney) writes:


>Could anyone answer these questions from my sister, whose plaintive e-mail
>message to me appears below?

>Posting is fine. E-mail to me is fine. Or e-mail to schaffer@cua.bitnet
>would be super! She's leaving in a week.

>(Please don't send her flames about looking things up in guidebooks. She's
>already done that. She's particularly interested in details from anyone
>who's done a bike trip through Denmark.)


>Could you pamper me?  Since I know nothing about NEWS and don't at the moment
>particularly want to learn, could you obtain for me any random info on where 
>to stay, eat, play in Denmark ?  We'll be in Copenhagen, then bike/train to 
>Funen, I think - it's the middle island of the 3 - Copenhagen's on the one 
>to the right - er-uh east.

>Forever gratefully yours,

>Carol

QUICK!

Log onto soc.culture.nordic

I don't recall the exact name, but I believe the subject was
"Mountain-Climbing in Denmark" [humor - the Danes' own joke is
that you can stand on a 6-pack and see from one end to the other]

It's a great 3-page account of a girl from Trondheim (Norway)
traveling through Copenhagen and the all best places of Denmark,
by bike and car.

BTW, there's a pedastal near city-center, with two Viking-warrior
statues on top, that are supposed to sound their trumpets when a
virgin enters the area.  Doesn't work. 


Mike Jittlov, Wizard, etc
jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu
Hollywood hideaway: 213-664-8626 [late]
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 08:38:45 CET
From: <RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Europe - Strategies for dealing with exchange rates, money etc.

The absolute best rates of exchange, ease of conversion, combined with
interest rates, are offered by opening a Money Fund account with  Rothschild's
Asset Management (CI) Ltd at St Julian's Court, St Peter Port, Guernsey,
Channel Islands.
If you choose to keep the cash in a rollup fund there is also nothing to
declare to your local taxman.
I have no connection with Rothschilds at all, but their deal looks excellent.
Anyone interested should ask for their' "International Money Funds"
prospectus.  Their US rep is the Manufacturers Hanover Trust Co at
4 New York Plaza, NY NY 10015.
From: ahgrabow@apgea.army.mil (Alexander H. Grabowski <ahgrabow>)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Info for Kiel, Baltic coast, Copenhagen, Frisian Isl.
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:28:00 GMT
Organization: ATE1 S7=255 S11=55 V1 X1 S0=0

In article <1992Aug26.144626.25318@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu> daver@ldgo.columbia.edu (dave reynolds) writes:
>I would like any info on traveling from Kiel to the east along the Baltic
>coast.  Ideally, I would like to catch a ferry and train across to Denmark
>and Copenhagen from the German Baltic coast.     Any suggestions regarding
>accommodations and travel logistics would be welcome.  Alternatively, I
>would like to explore the Frisian Islands, so if anyone knows how to get
>there from Kiel, I would like to hear about it.  I will be spending
>some time in Copenhagen and Kiel so any suggestions regarding those
>cities would also be welcome. Finally, I am interested in train fares
>for Copenhagen-Hamburg.


I think, I need some more specific info to help you. Nevertheless, I guess I got everything you needed, since I lived 35 Years in Kiel.
o When are you going? (What time of the year)
o regular trip or backpacking?
o train fares which class (1st, 2nd)
o kiel-Kobenhavn *ferry* or *train* or *ferry&train*?
o How many time to spend?
o special interests (cultural, historic, gographical and so on)

Just send me E-mail to ahgrabow@crdec8.apgea.army.mil or post infos on the board
Bye for now

Alexander
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From: jzh2485@rigel.tamu.edu (HINTON, JOHNNY ZANE)
Subject: TWA - The  Worst Airline
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:30:00 GMT

	Well, I thought that I should warn the world that I finally
	figured out what TWA stands for while traveling on their 
	airlines from Dallas, Tx to New York City  ------- The
	Worst Airline.  Keywords:  Flight cancelled and airline
	staff rude and surly.

			John Z.  -  jzh2485@rigel.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack)
Subject: Re: SF Bookstores in London
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:34:50 GMT

In <1992Aug25.160433.2212@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> pruckler@pluto (Thomas Prueckler) writes:

>I shall be visiting London soon and am looking for wellstocked
>SF-bookshops in (central) London.

>Any hints?

The New Book Inn, Charing Cross Road, just off Trafalgar Square,
in a cellar.

Michael
From: lcheap@milton.u.washington.edu (Laurel Cheap)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: WA State (USA) travel guides
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:18:54 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

From: clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI-Radio)
Newsgroups: clari.local.washington.briefs
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 0:20:09 PDT

	(OLYMPIA)- The fall edition of the Washington State Field Guide is
now available free of charge and can be ordered by calling the
Washington State Tourism Division at 1-800-544-1800. The guide is the
first of a series that will be published throughout the year and is
intended to be used with its companion publication... Destination
Washington... Washington State's comprehensive travel planner. Both are
available, free, by calling the toll-free 800 number or by writing to
the Tourism Division at P.O. Box 42500, Olympia, WA 98504-2500.

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From: smezias@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: United Free Ticket Promotion
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:57:54 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1992Sep3.123054.1@us.oracle.com> bkush@us.oracle.com
(Brian Kush) writes about a new United promotion through Dec. 18.  I
checked with United and found out this additional information: The
tickets that you earn will have to be used between Jan. 6 and May 15,
1993.  Not much time to use them!
From: bhag@etn.ericsson.se (Boerge Haga 2634)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Recommendations for Oslo?
Date: 27 Aug 1992 03:03:04 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


Things to see:

Aker Brygge - A renovated harbour area close to the city hall.
              This is a nice place to wander around in the 
              evenings, but everything tends to be a little
              more expensive in this area.

Holmenkollen - This is the famous ski jump often shown on
               tv. The ski jump is situated in nice surroundings
               with a great view over Oslo.

Museums -     The best known museums is situated at Bygdoey 5
              minutes drive west from Aker Brygge. Here you can
              see viking ships, Thor Heyerdahls straw boats and
              Folkemuseet ( ancient Norwegian culture, buildings
              etc.). The Kings farm (Kongsgaarden) is also here.

Parks -       Vigelandsparken with a lot of statues, of which 
              sinnataggen is best known.

Buildings -   The kings castle (at the end of Karl Johans gate).
              Stortinget ( where the elected peoples representatives
              sit).
              City hall.

Places to eat:

I guess most people except maybe Swedes, Germans and some others will
consider Norway rather expensive when it comes to food and drinks.
(The beer is still cheaper in Norway than in Sweden and France ;-)  )
Expect to pay from 50 NOK (pasta etc.) to 150 NOK (best steak etc.)
in a rather good restaurant. 
Eating on McDonalds etc. is very expensive in Norway. For a Big Mac
you should expect to pay about 33-35 NOK.
For the cheapest food you should go to Chinese restaurants etc. The
best known in Oslo that has several restaurants ( e.g. on Aker Brygge)
is Mr.Hong.

Weather & temperature:

Last year the first week of September was one of the nicest and warmest
we had that summer. I remember it well because I had my final exam in the
middle of the second week :-(  .
I expect the weather to be rather sunny with temperatures from 10-20 
degrees celsius. You should expect a few showers though. It could also
rain all week, but I doubdt that.

Boerge Haga
Ericsson Telecom AS, Norway
e-mail:bhag@etn.ericsson.se
From: john@pyrmania.pyramid.com.au (John Sims)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive tourists.
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:19:35 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation, Perth, Western Australia

In article <18311nINN58s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel) writes:
>
>   Germans: In spite of the heat they would not wear hats for
>protection from the sun and were not carrying water. We gave
>a party most of our since we had plenty at camp. They also were
>not receptive to my suggestions for desert safety (albeit in
>my rather broken  German).

My experience too. (Admittedly a couple of years ago now) I met many Europeans
who had no idea about surviving in hot places, protecting themselves from the
sun, etc. Knowledge of skin cancer (a hobby-horse of mine) seemed to be
non-existent. Getting a good suntan was vital to the success of their holiday,
regardless of how much pain it caused them while on vacation.
They were not used to hot, desert type weather, and weren't really aware of
the dangers of dehydration/sun-stroke. I hope that some sort of public
awareness campaign for (particularly Northern) European tourists has started
to let them know the dangers of excessive exposure to heat/sun (as we here in
most of Aus have to be).

>   Japanese: They carried carts full of Evian water and made
>hats out of the maps.
>  Whaddya think?

I guess I'm glad that some people were pragmatic. I can't give any
explanation though.

John.

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From: brandy@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BRANDAUER CARL M)
Subject: Re: Kauai - Hawaii hotel phone number needed!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:19:24 GMT

ce398@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Richmeyer) writes:


>Help!  I need the telephone number of the Princeville Hotel which is
>located on northern Kauai.  Please don't confuse this with the hotel
>Colony Cliffs at Princeville...

Become one of the last big-time spenders and dial 1-808-555-1212!
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