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From: ted@isgtec.com (Ted Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 9600 D/L U/L With Telix Info needed: Help Please!
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:13:33 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc. Mississauga Ont. Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (T. Scott Thompson) writes:
: at615@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nick Lucky) writes:
: 
: 
: >I have Telix v3.12 and a 9600 baud modem. I can't get over 905 to
: 
: >945 CPS in a D/L. I am set at 38.4 with V.42bis compression on.
: 
: >I am testing with GIF and ZIP files!!!
: 
: Since GIF and ZIP files are already compressed, your V.42bis
: compression cannot make them smaller, and may actually make them
: larger.  Thus the best throughput that you can expect is 9600 baud
: with these files, even though your computer - modem connection is at
: 38.4.  Given this, I think that 900+ CPS is about as good as you can
: expect.  You might get slightly faster CPS by turning modem
: compression off when moving precompressed files around.

Wrong!  I am running Telix 3.15 over an ATI 9600etc/e modem and I
reliably get around 1080 cps ZMODEM downloads of ZIP files.  I actually
get 1100+ using YMODEM-G (I think that's the one), but it leaves out
end-to-end error checking that will detect errors between the modem and
the computer that can occasionally happen.  I only get 1800 cps with
uncompressed text files, but I think that is a limitation of the UNIX
comms driver at the other end.

One important thing to check is that the modem at the other end is also
running V.42bis.  When I download from a system that is only V.32 (no
V.42bis), I only get around 900 to 920 cps.

The original poster asked about XON/XOFF.  I would suggest disabling
XON/XOFF completely, and using RTS/CTS instead (do this in both the
modem and in Telix).  Also, Telix now comes with a program to
automatically configure most of the popular models of modem.  Try
downloading a copy of this (the latest is on their BBS).

--
Ted Richards            ted@isgtec.com             [...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ted]
ISG Technologies Inc.   3030 Orlando Dr. Mississauga  Ont.  Canada   L4V 1S8
From: bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Flow control - Help!
Date: 20 Aug 92 07:28:44 GMT
Reply-To: bill@twg.bc.ca (Bill Irwin)
Organization: The Westrheim Group, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

br@cs.cmu.edu (Bill Ross) writes:

:     I'm trying to get hardware flow control working between
:     my modem and my Sun IPC without any results.  Here's my
:     setup:

:       Machine:        Sun IPC, SunOS 4.1.3
:       Modem:          USR 14.4 Sportster
:       Cable:          Pins 2,3,4,5,7,20 through
:       Modem settings: &h1 = use CTS
:                       &r2 = use RTS
:       Unix tip:       nt = no software flow control
:                       hf = use hardware flow control

:     The CTS & RTS lights are lit, I connect and cat a big
:     file and I loose chunks of it.  What am I doing wrong?

You've told your modem to respond to RTS/CTS, but have you told
the computer port to do the same?  I don't believe you will have
success relying on the O/S (through stty settings) to provide
this.  You should use an intelligent serial board and configure
the modem's port to use RTS/CTS.

Unless you have both the modem and the port talking the same
language (flow control) you will loose data.

:     Thanks!
:     Bill
:     br@cs.cmu.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: hsu@cs.hut.fi (Heikki Suonsivu)
Subject: Goldstar GSM2400M modem problems.
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:51:20 GMT


I have a problem with a Goldstar GSM2400M.  When in MNP mode
(+compression&dialin) the modem starts garbling characters some time after
connection.  It seems to be a software problem, like internal translation
table being messed up, as typed characters go through correctly?  This
usually happens in about 10 minutes after the connection has been
established.  Anyone have any idea?  Any address to get rom upgrade from?

-
Heikki Suonsivu, T{ysikuu 10 C 83/02210 Espoo/FINLAND,
hsu@{otax.tky.hut,cs.hut,clinet}.fi  +385-0-8031121
/G=Heikki/S=Suonsivu/O=hut/OU=cs/PRMD=Inet/ADMD=Fumail/C=FI,
mcsun!hutcs!hsu, riippu SN, Email preferable.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: borgen@stud.cs.uit.no (Boerge Noest)
Subject: LAPM vs MNP on good lines - which is best?
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:51:46 GMT


Which of MNP4 and LAPM has the least overhead when used on good
connections?
(Yeah, I'm trying to trim max cps out of the T2500)

Thank you.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: SupraFaxModem v.32bis for sale
From: <H18CC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 17:52:25 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

You dude, send me some info on the modems ($265 + shipping, right???). Wanna kn
ow C.O.D. or any other payment options. Need one badly for my news feed :-(
Mike
h18cc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
b6l20252@ccnyvme.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Laurence Chiu)
Subject: Re: ugh, more BocaModem problems... (or not...)
Organization: GCS Limited, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:50:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.102759.17311@mits.mdata.fi> larry@mits.mdata.fi (Lasse Hero) writes:
>lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Laurence Chiu) writes:
>
>>About the 16550A I have heard from a local distributor that there is new
>>firmware coming from Rockwell (by way of 1.25 ROMS) that will partially
>>solve this problem. Rather than have a fifo, the firmware will buffer
>>data so that if the PC cannot service the interrupt fast enough, it will
>>delay sending to the UART (or something like that - I did not quite understand
>>the explanation). Anyway it's about 3-4 weeks off so I will wait and see.
>
>Do you happen to know if there is new firmware coming for the 
>external modems too? (I don't know if there is even need for such,
>just curious)
>
>-- 
>larry@mits.mdata.fi    "You don't have to tell me nothing!"

It wouldn't need the firmware to take care of overrun problems I would guess
since your external modem would use the serial card in the PC which would
(might) have a 16550A.. But the fax problems which exist in 1.03 would need
to be addressed I presume.

Laurence Chiu
From: andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Gateway delays Telepath shipping-AGAIN
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 16:59:04 CDT
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

john@jwt.UUCP (John Temples) writes:

> In article <1992Aug08.132637.10148@highlite.uucp> dlreed@highlite.uucp (David
> >Well Kevin, I ordered my Telepath back on March 11.  I am
> >
> >     STILL WAITING...
>
> Why are people willing to put up with this BS from Gateway?  I mean,
> waiting 3-6 months for a modem to save $50...is it really worth the
> aggravation?

   I cancelled an order for a simple 32-bit memory board after TWO MONTHS
of being told "were short on stock/received and being tested/will be in
Wednesday, etc..."  This is something that isn't new, like the Telepath.

   Just think, for a part that probably costs less than $1, they've lost
hundreds of thousands in sales and future sales.

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From: jonz@edsi.plexus.COM (Jon Ziepke)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: modem schematics
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:45:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Aug19.144542.9807
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

leonard@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Leonard Erickson) writes:

>aduell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tony Duell) writes:

>>Now for a pet flame about a Modem Manufacturer and a question
>>I have a Dowty Quattro 2400 bps modem. I, too wanted the schematic. When I
>>phoned up Dowty, they said 'People who buy our products are not capable of
>>repairing them' . I have been doing electronics for 20 years, digital for
>>15 years. I am capable of repairing all the rest of my computer hardware
>>(including a DEC PDP11/45 with over 2000 IC's). Why is the modem so
>>difficult? Why do Dowty insult their customers like that?. Anyway, does

>Dowty *had* to tell you that. Per FCC regs, *you* cannot repair their 
>modem. Only one of the manufacturers authorized service techs can.

>The same goes for *anything* that connects to a phone line. Also,
>if *you* repair it and due to a goof it causes a problem with the
>phone system, the phone company can go after *you*. I doubt you'd
>cause any problems, but the law is intended to prevent Joe Hacker
>from attaching a homebuilt device to the phone system.

>This is not any different from the situation wit radio transmitters.
>If you aren't licensed or at least a manufacters service tech, you
>*cannot* legally work on it.

I operate a national reapair center for all the products that my company
manufactures, and I get calls all the time for people that want
schematics, and have fount that it is a rare breed that can actually
make use of them, it fact I have sent out over 250 set of the scematics
and only 4 people have been able to actually use them to my knoledge,
now I don't send them to anyone unless I have spoken to them on the
phone and they have proved that the are technically inclined.  I even
have to bozos that have modified there products and then when somethng
goes wrong they send the modified boards to me for repair, obviously I
send them straight back.  I have another guy they said he has fixed the
schematics and wants to sell us the corrections, I was not even aware
that we had a problem.
Maybe you are one that can use the drawings, but there are two many
jokers who can not and they are just a waste of time, money and have
ruined it for the rest.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: rkoo1@napier.uwaterloo.ca (zero)
Subject: 16550A UART upgrade.
Originator: rkoo1@napier.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 18:18:12 GMT


Hi. I'm purchasing a SupraFax V.32bis modem and was told that it uses the
16650A UART. On my 386 serial card I have a 16450 that is soldered directly
to the board. Would it of been possible to simply replace the chip if it was
the pull-out type?
Since it is not, I opted to replace the serial card. What I need are suggestions
as to what brand and type I should get. (or are they all the same?)
By the way, what's the big diff. between a 450 and 550A?

Thanks for any replies.

-Raymond Koo
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: TDD vs "std" Hardware (was: Emulating TDD or Caller-Id with an ordinary modem? Possible?)
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:36:37 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Aug14.225753.9032@qiclab.scn.rain.com> 70465.203@compuserve.com writes:
>keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith) writes:

>>It would seem to me that it would behoove the deaf community to switch
>>their network over to more standardized hardware.  I would think that
>>for WELL under $1000 you could put together a PC with an internal 2400
>>and some nifty software.  What do the current crop of TDD devices offer
>>to these people that cannot be delivered on commodity equipment.  Sounds
>>like an entrepreneur could make a big buck on this.

>You are laboring under a couple of misconceptions here. First of all,
>there's a *huge* installed base of TDDs. And most of the users *didn't*
>pay for them, they were donated. That's why they use such obsolete 
>technology.

Precisely.  While it would be *nice* to have TDD be modern and advanced,
the fact of the matter is that the majority of equipment was donated,
starting many years ago.  Which is why TDD tends to be 300 baud modems
with Baudot code (aka Murray code. NOT ASCII) teletypes, or equivalents.
Old teletype (telex) equipment such as ASR or KSR 15s are available by the
thousands, and are virtually indestructable, and are easy to repair.

While Baudot is slow (47.5 baud comes to mind) and rather restrictive
(no lower case), it's sufficient for the needs of most.

When a member of the deaf community is interested, on the other hand, with
computing or electronic communications (as opposed to a simple telephone
replacement) then it makes sense for something more grandiose than a KSR15
and 300 baud modem.  But in order to talk to others, or the standardized
access provided by TDD service, they still need the compatibility with the
old stuff.

[When I donated my KSR15, I wasn't even able to obtain a charitable donation
slip - my contact person said that Revenue Canada had determined that the value
of such equipment was zero.]
-- 
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From: fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil (William C Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 1496S - Should I buy one?
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:41:37 GMT
Organization: NRL Connection Machine Facility, Washington, DC

In article <1992Aug20.214253.12520@panix.com> schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster) writes:
>In article <14435@mindlink.bc.ca> Mike_Benna@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Benna) writes:
>>5) What kind of warranty does it come with, and has anyone needed
>>warranty service yet?  What were your experiences with warranty service?
>  
>I've read numerous reports from other users here, on the  support
>BBS, and the Fidonet echo of near-instantaneous turnaround when modems were
>returned for hardware problems.

I had a problem the first week I had my 1496E, and 0/1 shipped me a new one
overnight, and said to return the old one whenever I got around to it... that's
acceptable service, I'd say :-)

>>6) Finally, and probably most importantly, would you buy another one?

Well, I have two of the E models.  When I buy another modem, odds are extremely
good that it will be an E+.  I'm very impressed with ZyXEL.

  Bill
-- 
Bill Fenner                  fenner@cmf.nrl.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: david@sherpa.uucp (Dave Quarles)
Subject: .. H E L P ... Practical Peripherals to a telebit at 9600 ???
Organization: Personal System Computing :-) Gulfport, FL
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:51:07 GMT
Keywords: cannot connect to telebit anymore at 9600 bps

------------------------------------------------------------------------

I have a Practical Peripherals 14,400 (got it 2 mos. ago).

It is  GREAT ... but now I have a problem and wondered if anyone else
has seen this one.

I was conncting just fine to a 9600 telebit modem on a *nix system.

I now can connect no faster than 4800 bps (according to the LCD display).

Here are the details:

   The other modem is a Telebit WorldBlazer with LA5.01 ROMs just
   installed.  With the previous ROM in the Telebit I was connecting
   just fine at 9600 bps.  Now we are wondering if anyone else has
   run into this.

   Could there possibly be some register that I could change in the
   Practical Peripherals ??

Thanks for  ANY  light you can shed on this.

--------------------------------------------------  Dave  ---------------


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: bash@tware.com (Paul Bash)
Subject: Re: ATI 9600 ETC/E Modems
Organization: Techware Design, Boulder, Colorado.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:34:02 GMT

In article <7224.1011.uupcb@satalink.com> bert.tyler@satalink.com (Bert Tyler) writes:
>Does anybody know anything about the "ATI 9600 ETC/E" modem?
>
>An associate of mine works with a government organization that
>apparantly has these puppies set up as answering modems on their
>Novell network using the "On-Lan" software package.  He says that
>another ATI 9600 ETC/E modem is able to connect to them successfully
>at 9600BPS, but he can't seem to get his V.32bis-compliant modem (an
>AT&T Comsphere 3810) to connect at all.
>
>Of course, he doesn't have access to a manual, and he can't send me
>an ATI modem to look at (I'm 100 miles away from his site).
>
>Are these in fact V.32-compliant modems, or do they use some sort
>of proprietary protocol?  Do they feature any sort of error-correction
>and compression protocols?
>


The ATI 9600etc/e _is_ V.32 compliant (along with just about every other
CCITT protocol up to V.32). I've been using one for just about 2 years now   
and it has been a great modem. In other words, it talks V.32 well with 
everything I've thrown it against which includes Telebit T1600, T2500 
(after the T2500 7.03 ROM upgrade), T3000, WorldBlazer, Hayes Ultra, 
USR V.32bis, Microcom V.32 thingie and other unknown V.32 modems. 

If I remember correctly (the modem is on loan to a friend and I don't have
the manual as I type), an AT&F2 sets the modem up to handle
V.32/V.42/V.42bis protocols. That's just about all I did to set it up and 
its worked like a champ since.
 
-- 
Paul Bash                                                   Techware Design 
bash@tware.com                                              Boulder, CO  U.S.A.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: WorldBlazer blazes along at 219cps
Organization: The Gator Public Access Unix Site - 219-289-3745
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:16:43 GMT

ia4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Imran Anwar) writes:

>I too was wondering what the max throughput from Worldblazers has been?

we see around 2000 cps doing uucp


-- 
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Gator Communications                              uucp: ..!uunet!gator!larry
From: tnixon@hayes.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Hardware vs xon/xoff flow control.
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:39:22 EDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <1992Aug14.151606.29021@bilver.uucp>, bill@bilver.uucp
(Bill Vermillion) writes: 

> Toby - while not having read the standard, years ago I was reading a
> book on RS232 and it was detailing the pin connectors for a DB25.
> I believe there were 6.  What I found amusing was the the 6th
> 'standard' was that pin 7 shall be signal ground, all others to be
> user defined.
> 
> Using that as a guide, I have yet to find any RS232 that didn't meet
> the 'standard'.   
> 
> Is that actually part of the connector specs?

The earliest version of EIA-232 didn't even define the connector, 
much less the pinouts.  This was due to a patent licensing issue 
with the most commonly-used connector.  This has since been 
resolved, and later versions of EIA-232 include the connector and 
pinout specifications.

The latest version still has a table which specifies particular 
"applications" and the appropriate circuits to use in each 
application. One of them certainly is almost all user-defined.  
However, it is not that you can swap around the various circuits on 
different pins; it is just that you can pick and choose which 
circuits to implement based on the needs of the application.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: sycheng@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Shiao-Yang Cheng)
Subject: Need Advice of USR sportster v32bis
Reply-To: sycheng@csie.nctu.edu.tw
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, Chiao Tung U., Taiwan, ROC
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 10:31:14 GMT

  Hi :
  
    I fewly heard discussions about USR sportster v32bis modem. I don't
  know why ? But because we will buy some modem, I need someone's
  advice or experience !
  
    *  ZyXEL v32bis & USR Sportster v32bis, which is better ? I know
       that ZyXEL now can run up to 16800 bps, but how about USR
       sportster ? Does it support HST-16.8 ?
      
    Any reply is appreciated !
    Thanks.
    
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Computer Science & Information Engineering | Cheng, Shiao-Yang (    )  
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Re: DISCUSSION: Maximum transmission speed via phone lines
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:31:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

andreas@didymus.rmi.de (Andreas Fassl) writes:
: after hearing about the planned speed for V.FAST (I think app. 28800 bps)
: I tried to find an article in a german magazine about the maximum
: possible speed for phone lines published some years ago. 
: I have in mind something about 120 kbps (maybe more) using the full
: frequency available on phone lines.

Here is an earlier post, simply Shannon and some noise figures I deemed
reliable:

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: wolfgang@netcom.com (Wolfgang Henke)
Subject: Shannon revisited
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 92 03:23:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom

Here are some noise figures taken from the ATT Tech Journal, May-June 1984:
Central Office C-Message Weighted Metallic Noise (dbrnC):

Urban	 	10
Suburban	17
Rural		19
Bell System	15

Here I converted these numbers into the maximum possible data rates assuming
the modem transmits at -9 db and the maximum legal loss allowed on phone lines
that is 16 db, so receiving at -25 db. Data rates are in bps:

Urban		30488
Suburban	26940
Rural		26011
Bell System     28126

These are 90th percentile figures, so that 90% of callers in the category
given can expect the data rate given. I assumed 3000 Hz for the bandwidth.


-- 
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   Wolfgang Henke        wolfgang@henke.sf-bay.org       wolfgang@netcom.com

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Charging for uncomplete calls
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 13:49:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.011020.10138@sdf.lonestar.org> rlosey@sdf.lonestar.org (Richard Losey) writes:
>Don't know about SRPINT, but I *know* that MCI charges according to this
>formula; I've had charges show up on my bill that I never had a connection to;
>they informed me that they started charging after 30 seconds.

So that restricts the number of pre-determined messages you can conveniently
send just by transmitting rings to about 10, right?  (since it's difficult
to hit the number bang on, you need a +/- 1 latitude...) :-)

G
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From: REEDR@opsusa.decnet.siemens.com (Randy - QA Program Coordinator, SMS Iselin)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Cheap 14.4Kbps modems
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:57:27 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	The Velocity Box BBS is selling 14.4Kbps modems for only
	$320.00 plus shipping!  They can be reached at 908-727-4263
	with comms set to 8-N-1 at any baud rate up to 14.4K.  I
	thought the people on your list might be interested.
	
					Randy Reed
					Siemens Medical
					REEDR@OPSUSA.DECNET.SIEMENS.COM