HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon)
Subject: Spokesman for Earth voting is complete
Followup-To: alt.alien.visitors
Organization: Netcom - Your Only Choice
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:36:35 GMT

As the time for ending the Spokesman for Earth voting has passed, the
election is now closed.  Votes received after 00:00 GMT today will be
counted if they carry a timestamp earlier than the deadline.  Allowing
for variously speedy/slothlike mail propagation, the results will be
posted to this forum Friday, 2 October.

-- 
Rick Gordon      | "Often in error, never in doubt." 
rickg@netcom.com |   --- Universal Marketing Department motto
Xref: sparky alt.alien.visitors:7047 alt.activism:16904
From: SXZ104@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.activism
Subject: Role-playing Games
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:42:17 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


  I am putting together a Advanced Dungeons and Dragons Game.
 If you are interested or want more information, write to me and I'll get back
 to you as soon as possible.



Thank You,
 Sharky
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.perot
From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen)
Subject: Re: **GREY OCTOBER**
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:44:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.171601.13346@sunova.ssc.gov> kevlar@andorra.ssc.gov (Kevlar) writes:
>
>
>
>      HERE IS THE TRUTH THAT YOU ALL FEAR.......!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> 
>OCTOBER SURPISE????
>
>You Fools! Perot is a Grey.
>How did he make his Billions? Advanced Tech.
>Why did he suddenly decide to run?
>Why is he so secretive?
>Why is he not telling us what his plan is once he becomes President?
>Why is he so scared of the press?
>Why does he want to hook up the country electronically?
>Who is he really reporting to?
>
>Is he really running for office? of course he is!!
>
>I think it is clear what his plans were.
>He is going to gain the Presidency. Clear the way for the Grey invasion.
>And kick back with a Miller in a human free world.
>
>Scared Yet?
>You should be!
>
>
>(reposted from a previous article)
>

Tell me...how many of them brewski's did you consume before you posted
this missive of wisdom? :-)

Ross Perot *win* the election??? You better go look at the polls
and read them carefully..Perot will be damned lucky to get 6% of
the vote (if that). NO ONE LIKES A QUITTER!

I predict that Clinton will win by a HUGE margin..time to get a job
lined up for Quayle <smirk>..of course Bush will end up at the UN in
the employ of his Rockefeller masters...mark my words :-)

Don


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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Metzler)
Subject: Re: Zaxxon
Organization: University of Michigan Department of Physics
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:31:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.204154.8791@news.vanderbilt.edu>, MANEJWZA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu () writes:
|> 
|> 	Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning! Warning!
|> 
|> 
|> 	I am Zaxxon . . .

You are goofy, too.
From: kathieg@tinkerbell.EBay.Sun.COM (Good good good good vibrations)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Auras
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:04:24 GMT
Reply-To: kathieg@tinkerbell.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: tinkerbell.ebay.sun.com

RA,

As a little girl, I saw auras, as an adult, I still see auras.  If this is a 
figment of my imagination, then I must have a really good one.  

Kathie G.  ;.)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: stanley@verga.enet.dec.com (What a long, strange trip it's been)
Subject: Re: What Do You Think?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:41:59 GMT


In article <1992Oct6.135142.22989@acd4.acd.com>, gvb@TEFS1.acd.com (Gregg Brown) writes...
>In article <1992Oct1.151500.18431@engage.pko.dec.com> stanley@verga.enet.dec.com (My name is...) writes:
>>
>>In article <1992Oct1.053513.14191@netcom.com>, vere@netcom.com (Steven Vere) writes...
>>Is Professor Luminary's stock holdings and ego more important than the
>>future an alien contact could open up for the rest of humanity?  
>>
>>
>>>   We see a small hint of   the same  phenomenon in  the  effect on US
>>>science and   engineering  of the collapse  of  the  Soviet  Union.  A
>>>million scientist  and engineers  are losing  their jobs  because  the
>>>justification for the projects went away.  Congress doesn't care.  Let
>>>them relocate to Detroit  and fix potholes.  California  is now in the
>>>worst economic condition since  the depression, with  defense spending
>>>cuts a major cause.  Official  confirmation of  Alien technology would
>>>magnify this  phenomenon 1000  times.   
>>
>>Oh come on... it would not... there aren't that many Professor Luminary's
>>working for California. :-) 
>>
>>Hey Professor Luminary... the rest of us have to learn to get by when our
>>jobs go away... get back to the real world and stop expecting humanity
>>to forfeit it's future to protect your stock and your ego.
>>
>>Mary Stanley
> 
>Hey! Don't jump on Steve's back. He isn't saying its right. The fact is
>humanity has, does, is and will forfeit it's future to protect Professor
>Luminary's butt. Why should things change now? Shoot, it was like that
>2,000 years ago. They hung Jesus on the cross for the same thing. He was
>eroding the Jewish powerbase with a greater knowledge. They nailed him
>to the tree. Process: different, Result: same. Powerbrokers must be 
>information brokers. Hence, change the information the way you want it
>and you get/keep your power. What we are talking about here has nothing
>to do with scientific truth. As with myself, this fact of life discusts
>real scientists.
> 
>Gregg

I wasn't jumping on Steve's back, Greg... I was jumping on Professor Luminary.

But now that you mention it... humanity won't forgeit it's future to protect
Professor Luminary's butt.  Why should things change now?  Because we choose
that they do.  Because we want them to.  Because change is inevitable.. a
part of life.. because the good guys always win (my own particular favorite)
:-)

mary
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: dona@bilver.uucp (Don Allen)
Subject: Re: October 28th.
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:26:50 GMT
Keywords: The end.

In article <1992Sep30.131707.15663@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> timpson@acetek.enet.dec.com () writes:
>
>In article <29SEP199217121120@apsicc.aps.edu>, jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...) writes:
>
>|>Hello all,
>|>  Some time ago one of the a.a.v people posted an explanation for the
>|>"Last Trumpet Day" said to occur on the 28th., of October. I didn't
>|>manage to obtain a printout of the explanation but if the person could
>|>repost it I would appreciate it greatly. There are some fundamentalists
>|>I am in an ongoing argument with and I really need the facts about the
>|>subject.
>|>					With appreciation in advance,
>|>							Jim
>
>
>	Just tell them to GET A LIFE!  You can't win an argument with 
>	Fundies.  They wouldn't listen to reason if Jesus Christ told 
>	them himself/herself/itself.  
>
>	Just let it rest until the 29th of October when everyone is still
>	here and then you can go to the Fundies and go PPPPPHHHHHTTTTT!
>
>	This same thing happened with me in 1988 when the Fundies (some 
>	not all) were convinced that the second coming would happen on 
>	Rashashana (sp sorry) because of a poorly written book: "88 Reasons
>	why the rapture will happen in 1988).  A fellow co-worker was 
>	convinced that he and his family were going to rapture out.  Well
>	I argued until blue in the face with no success.  I then said to 
>	him that he should take everything he owns and all his money and 
>	give it to a charitable organization.  He wouldn't do it.  Some 
>	faith you have I said.  Fell on deaf ears.  The day after the 
>	supposed event I went to him and ask how it felt to be made a fool
>	of.  
>
>	Steve Food_for_the_Grays/Reptoids


Well, Stevie boy, listen up..

According to a good friend who is DEEP on the inside of the "gummint"
the CIA is VERY interested in increased military desertions going on
right now in South Korea. The reason? Why it's because there's a bunch
of these religious fanatics who are claiming that Christ/rapture will
return/happen (take your pick) on or about Oct 28th.

Now ain't that the damndest thing you ever heard? :-)

Don



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From: timpson@acetek.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Where is the driven Planetoid?
Reply-To: timpson@acetek.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:00:21 GMT


In article <11204@platypus.uofs.uofs.edu>, bill@prijat.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon) writes:

|>
|>It's not Fall of 1992 yet!!         ;-)
|>
|>bill


	Wanna bet?   It's been fall now for 6 days.


	Steve Food_for_the_Grays/Reptoids
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From: Colleen_Anderson@mindlink.bc.ca (Colleen Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Greetings of the worst sort
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:49:42 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

To Stone Cold Gentleman:
Jeez!  Some males are all the same, whether they're Earthlings or from the 34th
planet.  You're obviously not very advanced if that's the way you still see
women and I suggest you obliterate yourself.  (A giant, moist raspberry to you)
You are neither a gentleman nor an alien.  Aliens have no use only for AMERICAN
politics.  You think the world centers on you?


Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good)
Subject: Dreams of encounters...
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:34:37 GMT


Okay, as a disclaimer - I am not obcessed with this alien discussion, but do  
find it very interesting at times.

I have a question about the signifigance of dreams about encounters with the  
greys.

The dreams were completely weird.  I've always enjoyed having weird dreams and  
nightmares because of how weird they are, and I'm always aware they they are  
dreams.. until a few weeks ago.

The aliens appeared out of a swirling vortex that appeared next to my bed, 
then they communicated to me through thoughts...  and didn't say much.
Apparently they were testing how their equipment affected me.  The test
only lasted a few minutes, but scared the #&$( out of me.  I couldn't move..  
wake up.. speak.. yell.. or anything.

Personally, I am contributing this to an actuall nightmare, not an encounter,  
but my question is:  Are dreams any sign of actual abductions??

Just curious...

Joseph

--

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+-------------------+ - More than just a band....
| Green Dot Brigade | - It's a whole damn army of dots...
+-------------------+ - And we've declared war on the 7-Up dots...

rscott@nmsu.edu (NeXT mail welcome!!) (main account)

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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: joshua@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Joshua Geller)
Subject: Re: Face on Mars An Other Time
Keywords: mars observer, citys or rocks, confirmation one way or the other, side bets
Organization: Institute for the Study of Ancient Science
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:41:02 GMT

mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath) writes:

>In article <1992Oct1.060552.5151@rtfm.mlb.fl.us>, joshua@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Joshua Geller) writes:
>|> Well, mars observer has been launched. barring untoward circumstances, it
>|> should be in position and taking pictures in 11 months or so. with cameras
>|> of 3 meter resolution, the 'Face on Mars' question should be settled (one
>|> way or another) within the next couple of years. 
>|> 
>|> Some months ago, someone here gave me odds that the various formations there
>|> were not artificial in nature. In other words, we have a bet going wherein
>|> if the Cydonia formations are *not* artificial, I pay him a certain amount
>|> of money, and if they *are* artificial, he pays me a certain (larger) amount
>|> of money. Judgement (in this case) is to be by mr. tim maroney, of san
>|> francisco (maroney@toad.com).

>Do I have to bet to find out how you are going to decide this question?

>Every legitimate geologists and planetary scientist I know of has said they
>are natural rock formations.  Enthusiasts say otherwise.  The evidence
>is just a pattern of pixels.

>How will you use the new evidence?  Unless there are migs or radio
>dishes or something, just exactly what could be on the photo that 
>would be defined as evidence of 'artificial'?  And what could be on 
>the photo that COULDN'T look artificial to a dedicated wonder-monger?
>And whose opinion will decide?

well, I rather imagine a 3 meter resolution photo of cydonia will show
rather convlusively whether or not these formations are artificial or not. 
3 meter resolution photos of the pyramids, macchu picchu, stonehenge, etc
are readily differentiated from 3 meter resolution photos of rock formations.

in matters of the bet, though, the appointed judge (in at least one case
tim maroney) will decide.

josh
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: rkrouse@netcom.com (Robert K. Rouse)
Subject: Mars probe?
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 05:29:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Mars




  What is the real story of the Mars probe they lauched today?
I heard that NASA lost radio contact with it for a few minutes.

I guess the (aliens) needed time to make sure that it doesn't discover
anything NASA can't explain.

Remember the Face-on-Mars and the near by pyramids.  I'm sure NASA 
plans to have another look see.


-- 
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From: stanley@verga.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Vote for Rick Gordon, Spokesman for Earth
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:11:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <p19n9m=.rickg@netcom.com>, rickg@netcom.com (Rick Gordon) writes...


	I'll cast my vote for Rick Gordon
From: procacci@skynyrd.rutgers.edu (Vincent Procacci)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: jerky
Summary: jerky
Keywords: everything
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:54:25 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I don't know about you but I think the new Star Trek is sooo much better than the old Star Trek, and another thing is that I don't have to talk to you jerky.
From: joshua@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Joshua Geller)
Subject: Face on Mars An Other Time
Summary: mars observer's on it's way ... let's drag this one out again.
Keywords: mars observer, citys or rocks, confirmation one way or the other, side bets
Organization: Institute for the Study of Ancient Science
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:05:52 GMT

Well, mars observer has been launched. barring untoward circumstances, it
should be in position and taking pictures in 11 months or so. with cameras
of 3 meter resolution, the 'Face on Mars' question should be settled (one
way or another) within the next couple of years. 

Some months ago, someone here gave me odds that the various formations there
were not artificial in nature. In other words, we have a bet going wherein
if the Cydonia formations are *not* artificial, I pay him a certain amount
of money, and if they *are* artificial, he pays me a certain (larger) amount
of money. Judgement (in this case) is to be by mr. tim maroney, of san
francisco (maroney@toad.com).

I'd like to reiterate my position: I do not, myself, know if the formations
in cydonia on mars are artificial. I think the pictures of the 'face', 'city',
'straight wall', 'pyramid', 'fortress' etc are intriguing and I eagerly await
better photographs than we now have. Most people who express disbelief in
the artificiality of these formations have expressed their disbelief so
forcefully, that I am taking bets (at whatever odds (favorable to me) you 
like).

If you believe without a doubt that the 'face on mars' is not an artificial
formation, here is your chance to put your money where your mouth is.

josh



Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: battin@venus.iucf.indiana.edu (L GENE BATTIN)
Subject: Re: October 28th.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Keywords:  The end.
Reply-To: battin@venus.iucf.indiana.edu
Organization: VENUS.IUCF.INDIANA.EDU
Distribution:  world
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:00:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.131707.15663@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, 
timpson@acetek.enet.dec.com () writes...

> 
>In article <29SEP199217121120@apsicc.aps.edu>, 
>jim@apsicc.aps.edu (frost...) writes:
> 
>|>Hello all,
>|>  Some time ago one of the a.a.v people posted an explanation for the
>|>"Last Trumpet Day" said to occur on the 28th., of October. I didn't
>|>manage to obtain a printout of the explanation but if the person could
>|>repost it I would appreciate it greatly. There are some fundamentalists
>|>I am in an ongoing argument with and I really need the facts about the
>|>subject.
>|>					With appreciation in advance,
>|>							Jim
> 
> 
>	Just tell them to GET A LIFE!  You can't win an argument with 
>	Fundies.  They wouldn't listen to reason if Jesus Christ told 
>	them himself/herself/itself.  
> 
>	Just let it rest until the 29th of October when everyone is still
>	here and then you can go to the Fundies and go PPPPPHHHHHTTTTT!
> 
>	This same thing happened with me in 1988 when the Fundies (some 
>	not all) were convinced that the second coming would happen on 
>	Rashashana (sp sorry) because of a poorly written book: "88 Reasons
>	why the rapture will happen in 1988).  A fellow co-worker was 
>	convinced that he and his family were going to rapture out.  Well
>	I argued until blue in the face with no success.  I then said to 
>	him that he should take everything he owns and all his money and 
>	give it to a charitable organization.  He wouldn't do it.  Some 
>	faith you have I said.  Fell on deaf ears.  The day after the 
>	supposed event I went to him and ask how it felt to be made a fool
>	of.  

Well, hey, don't stop here!  We're all anxious to know: How did he feel
to be made fool of?  Did he learn anything from this experience, or
did he continue his gullible ways?

> 
>	Steve Food_for_the_Grays/Reptoids
> 

battin@venmus.iucf.indiana.edu
no .sig yet
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: mvbth@cbnews.cb.att.com (bernard.t.hebert)
Subject: ANTI-GRAV_PATENT_???
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:05:11 GMT
Followup-To: mvbth@cbnews.cb.att.com
Keywords: What's up, Doc?

Hello everone !

 While perusing the NET today I came across an article in Sci.space.shuttle
regarding the following matter :

"Method and Apparatus for Generating a Secondary Gravitational Force Field"

	U. S Patent # 3,626,605 awarded to Henry M. Wallace December 14, 1971.

My questions are as follows :

1.	How does one find out if there IS such a patent without going through
	a Patent Attorney ?

2. 	As a U. S. Citizen, am I entitled to see such a document ?

3.	Will it cost me very much money to see such a document should I be 
	able to do so ?

 
 Not that I can believe that twenty years ago some one came up with an actual
working model, but I would like to see the document if it exists.

						Thanks,

							Bernie

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Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors,sci.skeptic
From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Face on Mars An Other Time
Keywords: mars observer, citys or rocks, confirmation one way or the other, side bets
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:33:21 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct5.192715.13238@rtfm.mlb.fl.us> joshua@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Joshua Geller) writes:

>you raise an interesting technical point; it is my understanding that the
>camera on the viking also couldn't be aimed as such, and yet we got these
>provocative photos.

So Viking got lucky. The Observer high res camera will see very narrow
swaths in the direction that it happens to be pointing;
it can't be aimed without turning the entire 
spacecraft. Thus it will photograph at most a few percent of the surface
over the life of the mission. It will be pure luck if the "face" happens
to pass before the camera. On the other hand, the low res camera should
provide pictures of the "face" from a different angle and lighting than
that of the Viking image. 

Bold prediction: the "face" as seen
by Observer will be so obviously natural and un-face-like that it will
not be immediately recognized as the same formation. A few zealots will
charge that NASA has disguised the image to save us from the 
terrible truth. Others will explain that the "face" has been eroded
on that side... *yawn*.


Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
From: cs107028@pandora.sdsu.edu (Charles Herbig)
Subject: Re: Dreams of encounters...
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:49:22 GMT

Nick Sabadosh (nsabados@s.psych.uiuc.edu) wrote:
:                [...stuff deleted...]
: Anyway, I was wide awake at this point, but experienced that kind of paralysis
: you get when you wake right from REM sleep.  I couldn't move, but my eyes were
: open.  Needless to say, this added to my uneasiness with the situation.
:              [...more stuff deleted...] 

Sorry to disappoint you, sbut the paralysis you experienced is completely
normal. When you enter REM sleep, your parasympathetic nervous system causes
your body to become completely relaxed, and incapable of movement. This is so
you don't start thrashing around in your sleep and beat your wife up or 
break your leg or something. It is very common, and any aliens taking credit
for it should immediately be sued for everything they're worth! ;)

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