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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 21 Jul 1992 21:48:04 EDT
From: Mervv <IO10702@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Tandy 1000 TX question(s)

About the F-Keys with Telix.  I'm having the same problem setting them up to
emulate correctly.  I have F1 - F4 working,  email me if you want the settings,
but the rest I can't get working.
Later.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: ken@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (Ken Yap)
Subject: Tandy 6000HD boot disks....
Reply-To: eudoh@st6000.sct.edu (Etop Udoh)
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 23:47:10 GMT

This is forwarded on behalf of somebody, please reply direct to him as
he doesn't get comp.sys.tandy.

hi,

I recently acquired a Tandy 6000HD and I'm looking for information
on it since I know nothing about it whatsoever....
Also, if possible a boot disk since it gives a boot error when trying
to boot off the 15 Meg harddrive, and It came with no disks whatsoever...

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:12:11 EDT
From: <RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Tandy 1000 TX question(s)
 <92203.214804IO10702@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>

Re adding hard drives: go to newstand and get a copy of PCM Magazine; they
carry ads from places that sell aftermarket eqpt for Tandy 1000xx line.

Re VT100 emulation: I don't know telix, so I cna't be specific,but --
does it have a keyboard emulator subroutine? In my Procomm PLus, I have
to specify VT100 emulation, and then enter the escape sequences -- in
plain words, the key combinations that produce the vt100-like signals
that our mainframe (IBM 3090/4300/????) complex recognizes. As for
the keyboard esc codes, check with your computer center for a list
that works on your system. If they cant help you, I can send you a copy
of the sets that work on the Penn State system (VM/CMS). Maybe they'll
work on yours. I dunno.
Plus, read thru your telix manual, see what it says about vt100 emulation.
BobM
From: jim@rwsys.lonestar.org (James T. Wyatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Looking for option boards for 1000HX
Date: 27 Jul 92 06:55:22 GMT
Organization: R/W Systems, Richland Hills, Texas, USA, 76118-5849

In article <1317@wyn386.mi.org> mikew@wyn386.mi.org (Mike Willison) writes:
>I have an old 1000HX and am looking for the following option boards for it:
	[ a simple serial IO board and a 300/1200b modem ]
>I have already contacted our local Radio Shack's and etc. to no avail.  As you
>probably already know, regular 8-bit boards will not work in this particular
>machine due to the way the boards are engineered to be stacked one on top of
>the other when you do any type of expansion.  If you know of any other

If you've heard this before, hit 'n', else this almost a FAQ and here's my
approach to the HX-expansion problem. I use HX's as terminals sometimes:

The Tandy 1000 EX/HX use a 'Plus-style' expansion buss. There are two
practical differences between the 'Plus' buss and the PC/XT buss are: 1)
the amount of power cards can draw and 2) the connectors used.

The power supply in the EX/HX isn't very big, so you can only power things
like: a serial port, extra printer port, wd8003 (8 bit!) EtherNet board,
or a small CDROM interface. Don't even *think* of a hard-card, stuffed AST
RamPage, SoundBlaster, 3Com network board, or smart SCSI interface.

The solution to the connector problem requires electronics parts and a small
bench vise or clamp. It's just a short (2-4") adaptor cable which plugs into
the 'Plus' expansion socket on the 1000's motherboard (or the memory/DMA
board 25-1062). Persuading a hardware hacker type to do it shouldn't be hard
if you don't like working on hardware. 8{) I had the parts in my junk bins,
but DigiKey(MN) (800 555 1212), Active(CA) (same), Mouser(TX) (817-555-1212),
etc... should have them cheap. I can look them up, send mail if you need help.

I would recommend using a dual serial board (like 25-4025). Avoid the dual-
serial+dual-printer+floppy+game+IDE etc... cards - they will draw too much.
I also advise using an external modem with it. External modems have their
own power supply and can save your motherboard. [I've lost the line drivers
on my serial port in a storm. I also just tossed a 1000TX+20Mb hard card+
*internal* modem similarly hit by lightning. Not one usable part!]

-- 
James Wyatt  KA5VJL  jim@rwsys.lonestar.org  Semper Gumbi - always flexible!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: jdmcmill@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES D MCMILLAN)
Subject: Re: Tandy - Victor
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:23:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.174353.9059@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis) writes:
|> 
|> In a previous article, ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis) says:
|> 
|> >
|> >"Victor" is Tandy's European brand name.
|> >"Victor" is Computer City's house brand.
|> >"Victor" is Tandy.
|> >"Computer City" is Tandy.
|> >-- 
|> 
|> Contrary to other postings, the above is factual.
|> 
|> also:
|> 
|> "The Edge" is Tandy.
|> "Video Concepts" is Tandy.
|> "Scott-McDuff" is Tandy.
|> "The Incredible Universe" is Tandy.
|> "Grid" is Tandy.
|> "O'Sullivan" is Tandy.
|> 
|> and on and on and on....
|> -- 
|> rich
|> 
|> Internet: ai118@cleveland.freenet.edu

-- 

And about a year and half to two years ago, they bought Memorex.  That is 
why their video stuff is Memorex now.


-----
Duncan McMillan
jdmcmill@eos.ncsu.edu
mcmil-jd@osl.csc.ncsu.edu
mcmil-jd@adm.csc.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
From: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Subject: Term program for T2K
Organization: A Planet Of His Own
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 03:25:09 GMT

Can someone suggest a free/shareware terminal program (perhaps FOSSIL driven)
for a Tandy 2000, and where to get it?

						- greg
From: ravenone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Marsa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Tandy 200 ftp site?
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:10:04 GMT
Reply-To: ravenone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Marsa)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ravenone@mickey.cc.utexas.edu

Is there an ftp site for Tandy 200 programs anywhere?

I know about the Tandy 100 archive at ftp.eos.ncsu.edu, but I'm not sure how
compatible the programs are.  The few I've tried crash.

Thanks.
Robert Marsa
From: ti2mf@tuhhco.rz.tu-harburg.de (Markus Feuser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: TRS80-emulators for IBM-compatibles
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:51:22 GMT
Organization: Techn. Uni. Hamburg-Harburg, Germany

Hello TRS80-hackers,
do you remember NEWDOS on the TRS80 model I?
I am searching for TRS80-emulators for IBM-compatibles. 
Which emulators are available and which DOSses are supported?

Please, mail comments/advices to:

Markus Feuser                           feuser@tu-harburg.dbp.de
TU Hamburg-Harburg
Ti2
Harburger Schlosstrasse 20
2100 Hamburg 90, Germany

feuser@tu-harburg.dbp.de
From: mikew@wyn386.mi.org (Mike Willison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Looking for option boards for 1000HX
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:59:46 GMT
Organization: Wynalda Litho Inc., Rockford, MI

I have an old 1000HX and am looking for the following option boards for it:
  
  1.  PLUS RS-232C Upgrade Board (Cat. No. 25-1031)

  2. PLUS 300 Baud or 1200 Baud Modem (Cat. No.s 25-1017 or 25-1018)

I have already contacted our local Radio Shack's and etc. to no avail.  As you
probably already know, regular 8-bit boards will not work in this particular
machine due to the way the boards are engineered to be stacked one on top of
the other when you do any type of expansion.  If you know of any other
places that may be able to help, I would be appreciative.
From: young@gdfwc3 (Mark Young)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Tandy 3000HL Forsale!
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:51:23 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: General Dynamics, Fort Worth Division


FOR SALE:  TANDY 3000HL

CPU:    80286 - 8MHz
MATH:   80287 - 6MHz
RAM:    640K
DRIVE:  360K  - 5 1/4
CASE:   Baby AT Sized
PORTS:  Parallel

Just bought a '386-40 and want to sell my 
base system.  I have taken my VGA system, 
mouse, etc. out of this one.  I would 
consider selling the hard drive (Seagate 
ST-125 - 20 Meg) and controller (WD?) that 
was in this system.  

With HD: $250.00
W/O  HD: $125.00

There is nothing wrong with this system.  
I am just upgrading.

I would consider trading the system with HD 
for a 120Meg or greater IDE HD.  As long as
I have a reasonable gurantee that the drive 
works correctly.

After 8pm. (817) 996-1225 DFW Metro  - home
8-5 M-F    (817) 935-3968 Fort Worth - work

Ask for Mark!
From: novanet@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Tandy 1000 TX, Deskmate and VGA monitor
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:10:15 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I installed a VGA100plus monitor and board on a 1000 TX and now Deskmate
won't come up--screen just fills up with a raster type pattern. Does anyone
know how to make it work--does something else have to be set up? Everything
else works ok. 
Thanks, Leslie Foster, Novanet @ ac.dal.ca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: gbrown@pdx018 (Geoff Brown)
Subject: importing netlists into 8.0
Organization: WCDP
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:06:43 GMT

In the 7.0 environment it was possible to import external EDIF netlists 
into the Mentor system using SG.  SG seems to have disappeared from the 
8.0 environment.  Is there any way to import externally generated
netlists into the 8.0 environment.  I don't care about
generating schematics, but I do want to be able to simulate.

Geoffrey Brown
gbrown@ee.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
From: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies)
Subject:  Postscript printing remotely
Keywords: postscript lpr 
Reply-To: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de
Organization: I.Physikalisches Institut RWTH-Aachen
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 15:40:43 GMT


We are running MG 7.0 (?) and my users want to do remote printing.
There is a Postscript Printer on the network and printing via bsd style
lpr works.

Now, has  there some Mentor software to be installed too to allow
postscript printing?

I have a line in /sys/print/p_config.data  "device_driver  lpr".
But when we do e.g. a 

 plot 0.0 a postscript

or a screen plot we only get files in /sys/print which are named
postscript.something.hardcopy or the like but do not contain
any postscript data. They contain binary data instead.

--
-----------------------------------------------------------------
kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de
*** Error code 1
 
Stop.
From: tracye@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Tracy Evans)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:11:18 GMT
Subject: Re: CD ROM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor

> 
> Hi,
> We are thinking about installing ver 8.0 of mentor grahics tools on our
> DN4500, but wehaven't got a CD-ROM. We do have CD-ROM on our SUN machine.
> Does somebody know whether we could either use the CD-ROM to read what is
> required from the SUN or can we plug it to the SCCI port at the back of our
> DN4500 ?
> 
> Also, for those in the UK, what is the current price of a CD-ROM for a
> DN4500 ? 
> 

	I have just plugged in a CD-ROM drive and it worked fine.  It is a
Mentor drive though.  I should note that I can take the same drive and connect
it to my HP systems and it works without a problem too..  I suspect the same
will happen with your SUN drive..  this is with the DN4500...

Tracy J. Evans
Hewlett Packard
503 750-3837
From: cardowm1@teomail.jhuapl.edu (Wes Cardone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: Presenting AccuSim v8 Beta at MUG '92!!!
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:50:41 GMT
Reply-To: cardowm1@jhuapl.edu (Wes Cardone)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Laboratory


Invitation to
Present by:         Wesley M. Cardone
                    Session Chair, Analog & Mixed-Signal Sessions
                    and Tutorial
                    wesley_cardone@jhuapl.edu

Analog Simulation
Defined:            Computer simulation of analog or mixed-signal
                    electronic circuitry using either Mentor or
                    generic software.  Raw simulation data is
                    worked by the user to produce answers to
                    engineering questions.  Includes all activity
                    necessary to produce human communication
                    media.

Did Mentor give you a version 8 AccuSim Beta Site?  Would you
like to share your excitements and disappointments relative to v8
AccuSim with other users at the next Mentor International Users
Group meeting?

Let's review some of the reasons why you are "biting at the
teeth" for such an opportunity:

1.   You are so excited about this new technology that you just
     can't keep it in.  Presenting at MUG will lower your stress
     caused by this enthusiasm and thereby improve your overall
     health.

2.   You are so upset with Mentor for not delivering what you
     thought AccuSim v8 should be that you can't keep it in. 
     Presenting at MUG will lower your stress caused by this
     anguish and thereby improve your overall health.

3.   You want your supervisor to cough up some travel bucks

4.   and be grateful to you for receiving a waiver of conference
     registration fee.

5.   What's more, if you act immediately, you will qualify for a
     chance to receive a free room upgrade at the Marriott (a
     drawing will be held among those who apply and are accepted
     within the deadline).  Think of yourself enjoying the
     spaciousness of magnificent accommodations at the Marriott!


Contact me personally with questions.  While we're on the phone,
we can also talk "analog" stuff if you want.



----------------------
Wes Cardone
cardowm1@jhuapl.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
From: x920031@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Jost Krieger)
Subject: News and NOS/VE; WAIS ...
Organization: Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum, Rechenzentrum
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:04:15 GMT

Has anyone got something sensible for reading News under NOS/VE ?
The best thing would be a ported reader using NNTP, but anything better
than having B-News running unde VX/VE across UUCP (which I had a few years
ago) will be interesting. 

The same question goes for WAIS or similar stuff.

Thanks
--
-- 
Jost Krieger, Rechenzentrum der Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum
x920031@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
g=Jost;s=Krieger;ou=ruba;ou=rz;pd=ruhr-uni-bochum;ad=dbp;c=de
-- 
-- 
Jost Krieger, Rechenzentrum der Ruhr-Universitaet Bochum
x920031@rubb.rz.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
g=Jost;s=Krieger;ou=ruba;ou=rz;pd=ruhr-uni-bochum;ad=dbp;c=de
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac:146 comp.sys.mac.comm:7203
From: yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Gopher Server / MacTCP Monitoring Tools
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:40:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Jul21.194051.1117
Reply-To: yeidel@tomar.accs.wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
Followup-To: meade@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
Organization: Academic Computing Services, Washington State University


Posting for a friend without Usenet access (John Meade, meade@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu) -- please respond via e-mail to him.

------------- original message----------------------------

I am trying to bring up a Gopher server on a Macintosh.  
Every TCP port I use eventually becomes disabled.  Anyone
who has had that problem, or anyone who knows of a tool
I can use to analyze the situation, please contact me.

-- John Meade

------------- end original message -----------------------

--
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Academic Computing Services | All standard disclaimers apply
Washington State University |   "Believe it if you need it, 
Pullman, WA 99164-1226      |     or leave it if you dare..."
509/335-0441                |         -- Robert Hunter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu (Eric Gorr)
Subject: Re: Quicktime Movies Compression
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:45:23 GMT


If it is a quicktime movie, it probably already contains compressed pict
frames - at least this is what should have been done to the pict frames
before the movie was made...

you could try using stuffit, compactor, etc..to make it smaller...


In article <4024@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, jamesc@gl.pitt.edu writes:
> 
> I have recently come across some quicktime movies, but the files are too
> large to be copied onto disks.  Does there exist programs which will
> take a quicktime movie and compress it by converting each PICT frame to
> JPEG format(or other formats which require less space)?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> jamesc@gl.pitt.edu
> -- 
> ===================
> 
> 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.system
From: bondir@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: Compressing fonts?
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:31:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.151536.14783@engage.pko.dec.com> davis@gauss.enet.dec.com (Peter Davis) writes:
>From: davis@gauss.enet.dec.com (Peter Davis)
>Subject: Compressing fonts?
>Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:19:22 GMT


>Is there any way to effectively compress bitmap, TrueType and PostScript Type
>1 fonts, and still have them be accessible as needed?  I'm running AutoDoubler
>on my system (System 7, IIsi), but it doesn't touch anything in the system
>folder.  I have a lot of fonts on the system, and I want to add still more,
>but they take up lots of disk space.

Suitcase II comes with a utility that compresses bitmap fonts well while 
keeping them open for use.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac:177 comp.sys.mac.programmer:13210
From: neal@farallon.com (Neal Trautman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Subject: MPW & Development Software For Sale
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:36:53 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac
Organization: Farallon Computing, Inc.


Macintosh Programming Software and Manuals for sale

Macintosh Programmer's Workshop (MPW) v3.1  Retail $150
SADE v1.1     Retail $150
MacsBug v6.1  Retail $35
ResEdit v1.2  Retail $29.95
Inside Macintosh volumes 1-3, 4, 5
  Retail $79.50, $24.95, $26.95

All software comes with manuals that are
in new condition.  I will consider all offers.

Contact:
Neal Trautman
neal@farallon.com
or call (913)832-1723 after 6PM central time.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: TrueType fonts from Win3.1
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:22:08 GMT

ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg) writes:
: Is there a way to take TrueType fonts for Windows 3.1 and
: change them (with something like ResEdit) so they can be used on a Mac?

I've heard of a utility do do this.  Try:

util/tt-converter-11.hqx

on the standard archives.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,alt.config
From: Gavin Adams <gavin.adams@lso.mts.dec.com>
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.apple.newton
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d1
     <1992Jul23.164511.1@tesla.njit.edu>
     <1992Jul23.192824.14109@husc3.harvard.edu>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:10:50 GMT



In article <1992Jul23.192824.14109@husc3.harvard.edu> David Fry,
fry@tara.harvard.edu writes:
>Newton is *not* a code name, it is THE real name.  The first PDA
>itself may not be named Newton, but Newton is the name of the
>technology and Newton is the name of the operating system.  And these
>are the things most people are talking about.
>
>I comp.sys.pda is a good start, but every company is going to refer to
>their products as PDAs as well, or least the users will.  I think
>comp.sys.newton is the most appropriate since that's the place to talk
>about the Newton operating system and the various Newton products from
>Apple, Sharp, Toshiba and (eventually) others.

I also think comp.sys.pda is the best choice.  I would also ammend the
charter to discuss *all* PDA's--Apple's, GRiD's, whoevers.

>
>David Fry                                  fry@math.harvard.EDU
>Division of Applied Sciences               fry@huma1.bitnet
>Harvard University                      ...!harvard!huma1!fry
>Cambridge, MA  02138            

--- Gavin
Gone Fission.          Visualize Whirled Peas!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: vito@well.sf.ca.us (Andris Paul Vitols)
Subject: Can I use PC CD-ROMS on a Mac?
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:37:05 GMT


If so, please explain what program I need.  Thanks.
From: cmcdowel@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Charles E. McDowell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Font on MacTerminal.
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:24:20 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

This is probably kind of an obscure question, but maybe someone will be able
to help me out.  Is there any way to change the font that is used by 
MacTerminal?  The font it uses is Monaco, but it appears to be sort of
"embedded" in the program or something.  I used a program called ResEdit to
look at the font, and it's possible to change it manually, but who would want
to go through that aggravation.  It seems like there should be an easier way.
If you have any thoughts on this, please let me know.  Also, please reply
through e-mail since I don't frequently access this board.  Thanks.

[ Charles McDowell                   Purdue University - Lafayette, Indiana ]
[ cmcdowel@ecn.purdue.edu            School of Electrical Engineering       ]
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:13682 alt.config:4857
From: erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,alt.config
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.apple.newton
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:45:11 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

In article <cline.711794712@ebony.cs.scarolina.edu>, cline@cs.scarolina.edu (Ernest Cline) writes:
> There has been a lot of discussion of late about Newton the pen based PDA
> that Apple will be introducing soon. Yet since this is not a Macintosh, and
> will not be using the MacOS it really doesn't seem to belong in
> comp.sys.mac.misc. Therefore, I propose the group alt.apple.newton an
> unmoderated group for the discussion of this device. Comments will be
> appreciated. If the consensus of opinion that I see is that such a group
> would be useful, then I'll get to learn about how to create a newgroup. If
> not, oh well.

	A group sounds like a good idea, but why in the alt. hierarchy?
Why not comp.sys.newton?  If there isn't enough interest yet to pass
a vote in the comp groups, then the time probably isn't right for this yet.

Elliotte Rusty Harold		Department of Applied Mathematics
elharo@m.njit.edu		New Jersey Institute of Technology
erh0362@tesla.njit.edu		Newark, NJ 07103