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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:44:36 -0500
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (68)
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              753-6980" at Nov 16, 92 10:51 pm

>
> 5) Clue bus/clue CLRV
>
> "Hop on the clue bus" is a way of suggesting that someone is, well,
> just not getting the message; it suggests stupidity.  Last weekend,
> Blomberg and I were baiting a list member who lives in Toronto; I
> don't know whether the member was dense or just faking it; in
> Toronto, there are streetcars, called Canadian Light Rail Vehicles,
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Not by Canadians it ain't.  (Do YOU go around saying "American Light
Rail Vehicles" for "streetcars"?) It sounds totally idiotic.

> so a dense Torontonian might ride the clue CLRV rather than the clue

Only by presumptious dense Americans (if the shoe fits, wear it)...
Can't you just hear them say, "Let's go Toronto to ride the CLRV."
You'd never think they're trying to "get clued in."

Alexei Sayles comes to mind.

>
> Steve Karlson
>

A.
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Date:         Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:39:00 EST
From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Quiet Night?
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> If you were stranded on an island with one other wordsler, whom would it be?
>
> Jim

That one's easy.  -abh, of course, because she is good at
<tickling my fancy....>, as she has proven already.
--ggs (with apologies to Natalie, who failed to beat -abh to the
<punch>...)
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:19:00 CST
From:         "Bob (Moo Cow) Hyland" <HYLANDRA@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: November 22
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Howdie all.  I'm new here and my name is Bob.  Yes, just another Bob, I guess.
Anyway, talk to me and let me know what's happening on this channel.  I hate to
feel left out, ya know.  Oh, and happy turkey day.

Bob (Moo Cow) Hyland
HYLANDRA@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU
Sports Enthusiest Extrordinaire (who can't spell worth a hoot)
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:19:51 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*

>> we say "disoriented like a decapitated chicken"? Has anyone SEEN
>> a headless chicken?
>
>Yes, many times.  Headless roosters also.

That's OK, but were they running around?

tushar
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:32:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Cincinnati dialect: Update

Well, it's appropriate that one Skyline junkie would come up with
an example of Cincinnati dialect that satisfied another skyline
junkie's criteria for Cincinnati dialect.

Cinci chili does use some garlic and some chocolate in it,
simultaneously.  So, for that matter, does Green Bay chili,
which is *not* for the <faint of heart>

Steve Karlson

Cheeseheads 17, Yellow Mustard on Hot Dogs 3!
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:03:30 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Ethnomethodology
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:I was talking while ago with the person who teaches our Language and Culture
:course and asked her how she would explain ethnomethodology to a WORDS-L
:questioner.  She said I should probably have emphasized the methodology more.
:Ethnomethodology involves going into a different culture with no particular
:hypothesis to explore, gathering as much as you can of the language and
:context, and then looking through raw data for ideas.
:   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Ah. 'Hacking'.  Now I understand.

G
From: fwp@CC.MSSTATE.EDU (Frank Peters)
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Date: 18 Nov 92 19:56:57 GMT
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In article <Pine.3.03.9211180955.B20239-9100000@formby.tenet.edu> Anne Burton
 Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU> says:
: On Tue, 17 Nov 1992, Dan Lester wrote:
:
: >    don't know about any OTHER MacPhil, but the one who was on HERE
: > as MacPhil is Phil Paxton of suburban Indpls.  Would have to check my
: > paper address book to tell you the address.
:
: Erp, Dan, I'm *sure* it's Phil Kizer. Unless we're dealing with aliases
: here. Ask Karen, she's actually spoken to him.

Point Dan.

    Date:         Sat, 23 Feb 91 13:33:14 EST
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    From:         Phil Paxton <IQTI400@INDYCMS.BITNET>
    Subject:      Re: Previously non-existent

[ ... message deleted ... ]

    Sincerely,
    MacPhil
    IQTI400@INDYCMS (formerly MACGYVER@INDYCMS)

Phil Kizer was (and possibly still is) IXIE400@INDYVAX.BITNET.  Certainly
close enough to cause confusion, but I can find no clues that he is the
same person.

--Fwp, greping fool

P.S. Unless there is a message missing the first use of List Goddess was
     Anne Harwell (upon discovery of a natalie.gif in the archives).
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:40:52 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Thanks Natalie
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Whatever you did, thanks for giving us back our favorite listserv.

This ends transmissions by the Emergency Listserv.

-abh
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:11:47 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: FYFI

>Gilbert, Gilbert, haven't you realized by now that <everything imaginable> has
>occurred on Words-L already?  In fact, couple of other posters even tried the
>exact ploy as you in an attempt to attain top BWP status.

One of them wasn't for top BWP status, damn it.

tushar
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:58:05 -0500
Reply-To:     "Ruth M. Hanschka" <ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
From:         "Ruth M. Hanschka" <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Things that make you go *sigh*
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>
>Greetings,
>
>Has anyone else noticed that dialogs with Ruth are startlingly similar
>to dialogs with Tushar?
>
We're identical twins; didn't you know?  Why do you *think* I
wanted those Cupid arrows to hit someone in the room besides him?  Incest
isn't on my list of "Fun Things to Try".  Besides, his mother wants
grandchildren!

>I had long thought of Tushar and Lisa of URIACC as soulmates; now I posit
>a kind of triangular relationship.

Maybe, there is another sibling out there somewhere, somewhat younger
than either Tushie or myself.....

>Marty (somewhere off the shore of virtual Bermuda)

Ruth "off the shores of the Land of Confusion" H.

--
                ###     Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:48:08 EST
From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Southern Culture on the Skids
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Posted by a certain wimp

>Thing is, you don't have to read EVERY post to stay on the list. Shoot,
>many's the time when I've killed 300 postings at a shot when I've fallen
>too far behind.

and, my dear, it shows.                  b.c.
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Imposter
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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 02:30:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.193151.21127@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gtoal@nyx.cs.du.edu (Graham Toal) writes:

>You know the 4th Sandman collection just came out?  (Though of course
>if you read the K0m1X you probably don't care)

	Yep!  We have it.  Oh -- "K0m1X -- that's supposed ta be
"elite" talk, huh?  Hmmm.  I'll have to ponder that.  Deeply.   Ghopod
forbid I excercise any judgement or preference in my reading
materials.

	Has anybody gone to see Glenbarry Glenn Ross?  Altogether too
much shouting and "fuck you's".  Sounded like last week's staff
meeting.  I'm tryin to figure out what it is supposed to be about, but
all I can come up with is a rehashing of Death of a Salesman with an
80's edge of greed.  *Shurg*.




-- 
Rita Marie Rouvalis              rita@eff.org 
Electronic Frontier Foundation   | And he spun himself right down 
155 Second Street                | into the ground. Now wasn't that 
Cambridge, MA 02141 617-864-0665 | lucky?  --Deadsy 
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject: Re: FYFI

> This should read: "offer an appropriate <prize> to....."

: Far be it from me to criticize the list inflectionologist, but wouldn't
: "offer an <appropriate> prize" be more appropriate?

@@set screen <white-on-red>

If an
<appropriate prize>
you'd earn
Submit your response
Before November's turn
BURMA SHAVE

Steve Karlson

alec's head grows bald but not his chin?!?  Congrats.
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From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reification
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Posted by a literarily besmitten Brad

>   This was a revelation.  She grasped, Europeanly, the order, the
>hierarchy, of society.  Had it been Norma and I in bed, we would have
>felt a confused egalitarian obligation to the African-American maid in
>the hall, who no doubt had her schedule and, a hundred blocks to the
>north [in Manhattan], her private problems, the products ultimately of
>slavery and racial prejudice, and we would have guiltily dressed ourselves
>and vacated the room.  But Genevieve saw reality in its true fine shadings
>of obligation and prerogative.... She knew the world, how it fit together
>and did its business, eliciting rewards and punishments on a scale
>calibrated by tradition.  Like all enthralled students, I tempered
>admiration with resentment.  The order she would create in my life depended
>upon reifying people, reducing them to their uses.  If the chambermaid
>     ^^^^^^^^
>was thus to be disposed of, what about me, when my mysterious use had
>been served?                     (p. 177-8)

Alas, Brad, this is actually a gross misuse of the word, using it to mean
exactly the opposite of what it is supposed to mean, to wit: (the verb, at
least)>>>> to regard or treat (an abstraction) as if it had concrete or
material existence (from the AHD3). She is doing something not quite the
opposite, using people instrumentally, taking (real) people and treating them
as (real) things. Updike wanted to say that she used people as things, and
knew that "re" in Latin means "thing", and made that leap which most of us
know well into the realm of the false cognate, although for most people, this
is a problem with *foreign* languages.

And Brad, since both AHD3 and Webster's 9th New Collegiate are strangely
silent, what the heck does "aporia" mean?

Bemused but not besmitten, blomberg cepeda   st402747@brownvm
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: RE: SNL and Homoderrogory
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> into the military and they attempted to capitalize on it. I think
> they felt they could get away with this, because sadly, most of the free
> United States of America is homophobic. If it bothers you then
> write a letter to NBC.
>
> later
>
> alec

But writing a letter to NBC is so *dull*.  I would much prefer to
see some group stir up a stink about it.  That would be fun.
--ggs (the original armchair whatever...)
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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> Is there an explanation for this phenomenon?

Probably.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: GI Bill: Sexist social engineering

: How many people in the middle and upper middle class owe their family's
: relative prosperity and social success to this welfare program?

And how many people know that the GI Bill provides (yes, there still
is one) veterans the opportunity to use the educational benefits at
almost any college or university?  I think that's called *school
choice*.

Steve Karlson

Get a good start and sail on the lifted tack.
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:09:56 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: emulaser

>Question about hot dogs and buns:  Buy the package of jumbo hot dogs.
>It contains 8 hot dogs (which go with 8 buns).

Good. Now one only needs jumbo refrigerators which have twelve slots
in them.

Judith, kindly make no more unbearably smart-alec remarks.

tushar
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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In a previous article, karsten@netcom.com (karsten) says:

>ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka) writes:
>> It was a freezer-on-the bottom type, which seems to have gone out
>> of style.....  Is it economics, or frozen dinners?:-)
>
>It's ergonomics and demographics.
>
>A lot of people have trouble bending and stooping to reach items
>in bottom freezers.  As the population has gotten older (and
>stiffer) and increased its consumption of previously frozen foods
>the manufacturers moved the freezers up.
>
Ahh - then the freezer-on-top models are really fogie fridges!  Geezer
freezers?  Whatever.  I wonder what all the old, stiff types do about
getting into the vegetable bins, then.....  With the freezer on top, those
bins are at the bottom.  Or do geezers eat previously frozen salads too, and
keep exposed film in the bins?<grin> [hi, Don]

>Some fridges (like "dorm" models) fashion their freezers out of
>the cooling coils and use the fact that cold air sinks to keep
>the goods below cool.  For these it is economics (only one set of
>cooling coils).
>
If it isn't set up right, it's not economics, it's junk. The old cube fridge
on my porch either doesn't freeze water, or else freezes everything in the
fridge too.... :-)
>
>(newer fridges also have larger freezers)
>
For all those Healthy Choice consumers out there?:-)  Most of the "older
folks" I know would rather cook their own than eat that stuff.<ecch>
-- 
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Why You Shouldn't Clean Out Files When Tired
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> So why not download the whole thing (or ftp it in your environment), process
> it with a REAL program like WP5.1, save it ascii, and pipe it back up to
> ra.?

Why bother with all that when vi is just as good as WP?  If I really wanted
to use WP, I could use it on Ra anyway.  We do have the online version of
WP.  But I prefer vi when on Ra.  I used online WP for a little while and
hated it.  (It would probably be easier for somebody who had never used
regular -- i.e., offline -- WP.  Looking at the familiar screen but having
to use weird substitutions for the f-key stuff drove me bananas.)
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Southern Culture on the Skids
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> Greetings, Bekka,
> Fourth: your comments on the stupidity and narrowness of the religious
> right, and your observation that sexual deviation is a common occurrence
> among fundamentalist Christians are well expressed and clearly supportable.
> Even so, it might be more diplomatic in the future to go easier on the
> theologically impaired.
>
> Marty

Sweet Jesus in Heaven, until I got to the signature, I was *sure* that
this was *ts* writing (in an inexplicably coherent style) one of his
typical preachy prescriptive pieces of advice.  I think we *will* have
to redo the family tree, for a new set of not *twins* but *triplets*
has emerged and revealed themselves for <what they are>:
.
           ruthie - tushie - marty
.
Ohmygod I cannot *stand* it....  This new revelation may inspire me
to contribute yet another <specimen> story, this one of the memorable
<point in time> at which I was encouraged by my doctor to contribute
a specimen of another <sort>......
--ggs (... genieologist)
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Subject:      Re: First Green Message
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>Ken,
>  He's been on the Politics list (Hi, Kip!), so he's not exactly Fresh
>Meat (Tim Johnson will do that to you). :)

I've heard about Tim Johnson.  He is famous at Brown and almost as
famous in List circles.  What is the line of Hotspur's from _1 Henry
IV_: "I'll cavil on the ninth part of a hair." That's what I've heard
about him.

Ken
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Subject: Re: Things that make you go *sigh*
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:30:58 GMT
Organization: Netsys Inc.

In article <WORDS-L%92111721482844@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU> writes:
>> Why be nice to everyone.  Clinton hasn't even been inaugurated and he's
>> starting to play patty-cake with right wingers like Sam Nunn.  After saying
>> throughout the campaign he was against the ban on gays in the military,
>> now he must "look at the mechanics" of changing the policy.  Isn't this
>> guy commander in chief?  What mechanics?
>>
>> Marty
>
>I think he is going all to hell because he is upset over the rumours
>that Ms. Flowers is spreading about him and the fact that his
><equipment> has become the subject of casual conversation on the
>net.   And don't think he doesn't know.
>--ggs


Maybe Clinton will do what LBJ did when asked about his war wounds.

On Larry King.
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From:         James R Llewellyn <jrlst14+@PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Quiet Night?

I didn't ever think that the list would be this quiet.
For those of you out there, I feel some sort of responsibility to clog
the system with meaningless, yet possibly inflammitory, rhetoric. I
can't stand silence.

Were Sherlock and Watson lovers?

What is the best poem to woo women?

Should a man be more concerned with pc or chivalry?

What does eating escargot feel like?

At what age should a man buy his first La-Z-Boy?

Which is more impressive? 400 passing yards or 300 rushing yards?

What one act is the the best thing you have done?
Note: Marriage and childbirth are too easy!

If you were stranded on an island with one other wordsler, whom would it be?

I do hope that this is enough to stimulate the currently silent.
Respondents are encouraged to address each question under a different
title.

Peace, Love, and Beethoven's Fifth (of what, I'll never know),
Jim
From: N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (gilbertsmith)
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Date: 18 Nov 92 21:19:00 GMT
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> >From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
> >
> >I am going to start being sweet to everyone.
> >--ggs
> Oh Yuck! This truley did make me sigh. Why be so boring? Be nasty, it's so muc
> more fun.
> Lisa

Oh, lisa lisa lisa......  lisa........
You must stop this silly habit of believing everything you read on
the lists.
You must remember that I am definitely a <fun> guy.
--ggs
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: My first CS assignment: THE WAKATRON!

> Oh tushar!  You didn't give up your day job for this did you?!

Day job??

Steve Karlson
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Thanks Natalie
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> Whatever you did, thanks for giving us back our favorite listserv.

But of course.  I have risen now to the stature of being in charge of
the whole UGA listserv and all the many lists that run on it.  Naturally
they called me from Athens when the problem was discovered this morning
and asked for me or Bernard to rush over there to fix it.  Since I had to
teach classes all morning, I sent Bernard to Georgia to take care of the
problem there.  He expects an extra serving of Mighty Dog tonight for his
efforts.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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