From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics,ba.politics
Subject: Re: This is Crap and nonsense ( was Re: A Retraction)
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:51:14 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <16ehl2INN6iv@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU writes:
> In article <11726@optilink.UUCP> cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# #I referred to a posting a while back as "typical lying homosexual."
# #One of my colleagues here pointed out that the lying homosexuals
# #involved are a relatively small number -- unlike the number of
# #homosexuals defending child molestation.
# #
# #It is definitely incorrect to imply that all homosexuals, or even
# #most homosexuals on USENET are liars.
# 
# You are a fool- I am tired of going into newsgroups and finding this type
# of trash discussion going on, in fact, I won't even call it a discussion.
# 
# It is time that you started talking about your own 'house' (hetero), the
# child molesting that takes place between, male friends/fathers and daughters,
# even the rare cases of female friend/mother and sons.  Or the seedy parts of

When the straight community starts trying to justify this, instead of
reacting in horror, I will give them equal time.

# cities that contain the 'girly' shows etc. and the constant bombardment with
# sexy half-clothed women on TV- or even doogie howser having a sex scene in
# his 'family values' show. Let's talk about abused and battered wives- all done

This may surprise you, but the examples above have been the subject of
considerable effort by groups like American Family Association, the
Traditional Values Coalition, Moral Majority, and a lot of other
groups that you can't stand.  These aren't acceptable to most Americans.
The absence of laws to stop commercial pornography is because of your
allies on the left.  Don't blame this garbage on me, or anyone that
shares my concerns.

# by those loving balance family-value hetero males, and you can add the child
# abuse on top of that, and how about adding war mongering (hetero males) and
# our presidents responsibility for the death of many Iraqi childern.  I am
# afraid that your arguments pale in comparison with what the 80-90 % straight
# male adults have done to everyone.

Ah yes, Bush is responsible for every death caused by Saddam Hussein's
intentional efforts at aggression against other countries.

# #Now, can we discuss when the homosexual community is going to
# #shun child molesters?
# #-- 
# 
# Homosexual support for child molesting-  plain B.S., sure there is always 
# somebody or some group that want to do things that everyone disapproves of
# so stop trying to indict a group of people into something that most of them
# are against.

Then shun NAMBLA.  They are STILL marching in the S. F. gay parade.
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
I can make myself popular on USENET again -- all I have to say is that I'm not 
disturbed by the support for North American Man-Boy Love Association in the 
homosexual community.  Being popular at a child's expense isn't worth it.
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