From: exuhaak@exu.ericsson.se (Haseeb Akhtar)
Newsgroups: soc.religion.islam
Subject: Re: ISLAM: JIHAD IN THE QUR`AN
Date: 21 Jul 92 00:36:52 GMT
Reply-To: exuhaak@exu.ericsson.se
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Originator: hanan@mcs213k.cs.umr.edu

In article 57318@cc.usu.edu, slzm9@cc.usu.edu () writes:
#In article <1992Jul16.221020.29496@news.iastate.edu>, tnap1@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
##  The subject of Jihad is mentioned many times in the Qur`an. First, it 
##  should be understood the Jihad means struggle not `Holy War', this is 
##  clear from the Arabic meaning and from the fact that the Prophet 
##  Muhammad (Peace and Blessings upon him) said that the greatest Jihad was
##  the Jihad against one's own desires.
##  I will Quote two place in the Qur`an the talk about Jihad. I am using 
##  a translation by Yusef Ali.
## 
##  Let those fight in the cause of God who sell the life of this world for
##  the Hereafter. To him who fighteth in the cause of God,-Whether he is
##  slain or gets victory- soon shall We give him a reward of great(value).
##  And Why should ye not fight in the cause of God and of those who,
##  being weak, are ill-treated (and oppressed)?- Men, women, and children,
##  whose cry is: "Our Lord! Rescue us from this town, whose people are
##  oppressors; and raise for us from Thee one who will help!"
#
#   Why should you not fight for a cause? This is the question asked in
#the Qu'ran here. I will give you an answer and I would like to hear
#the response of both muslims and non-muslims to this wisdom.
#
#   If you fight an oppressor with violence and death then you will only
#set up a new group in the old oppressor's place that will suppress
#those things that it does not feel are right. If you happen to be in
#the oppressor group then that is justified but that is exactly what
#white christians are doing right now in America. If you think that
#is ok then you should be arguing for violent overthrow of the US
#government. If you don't want to replace the oppressors with your
#own group (be they muslims or whatever) then you should fight for
#the destruction of the System that is providing us with oppressors.
#You should use non-violence to set up a government not ruled by
#any group. Using violence to end oppression will only result in more
#violence as one group gets replaced by another unless the chain
#is broken.
#	Put down your weapons. Put down your gun and your 
#     prejudice and your hate and learn to live in peace with
#     your neighbor.
#
#
##  Those who believe fight in the cause of God, and those who reject faith
## fight in the cause of evil: So fight ye against the freinds of Satan:
##  feeble is the cunning of Satan.
## 					Chapter 4 , 74-76
## 
#
#   I hate to say this but christians use this same reasoning to kill
#muslims. Are those who follow Islam the same as they? Do you fight
#against those just because they don't believe the same way as you?
#   If someone oppresses you or innocent people why not fight by
#placing your body between the oppressor and the oppressed. That seems
#to be a courageous thing to do and does not require raising a hand
#against anyone, and at the same time you can "fight" against that
#oppression. 
#
##  Say to the Unbelievers, If they desist their past would be forgiven them;
##  But if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a
##  matter of warning for them).
##  And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there
##  prevail justice and faith in God altogather and everywhere; But if they cease   verily God doth see all that they do.
##  If they refuse, be suere that God is your Protector- The Best to protect
##  and the Best to help.
## 
##                                        Chapter 8, verses 38-40
## 
## The above verses are very clear as far as explaining the purpose and 
## justification for Jihad. 
## 
#
#   Yes they are. Basically Allah says fight anyone that does not believe
#as you but never once condoned killing them. Then why can't the
#fight be carried out non-violently?
#
#   But the question is simple for muslims: Do you believe it is
#right to kill other human being because they do not believe in
#the same god as you? Or if they do not have any religious beliefs?
#
#   A simple yes or no will do.
#

No!!! Unless that particular group of people is trying to extinguish the Muslims from the face of this earth. Also, if any government or nation is oppressing Muslims or non-Muslims who are living under that government or nation. 
A non-violent approach is a must. But, if that doesn't work ... well, too bad. Muslims can not wait and let others kill them.

#Peace, but not without justice

me too!
ha

#Zip
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