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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 16:41:02 -0500
Reply-To:     jesmith@MAIL.BUCKNELL.EDU
From:         jesmith@MAIL.BUCKNELL.EDU
Subject:      Rocky Flats and Nuclear and Hazardous Waste

I am a member of the group researching Rocky Flats along with nuclear and
hazardous waste.  Any information on these topics would be greatly
appreciated. If you know of any other problematic nuclear sites, please
include those also. We're interested in the harmful side affects to the
environment, specifically nearby communities and resources. Thanks!!!


                                Jenn Smith
                                GG208  Resource Management
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:46:00 EDT
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From:         3_SWOOD@FAIR1.BITNET
Subject:      Energy Efficiency, Renewables - Visual Aides

Hello,
     I am looking for addresses of groups and organizations from
which one may obtain visual presentation aides (i.e. Slides,
Overhead Projections, Posters, etc.) related to the topics above.
I'm also interested in Electric and Mass Transportation.

     I have already contacted The Union of Concerned Scientists
in Cambridge, MA and have received information regarding slides
on Renewables that they have for sale.  If anyone knows of other
organizations that offer similar items, the posting of their
addresses to me personally at  3_swood@fair1 would be
much appreciated.

                                Thanks,

                                Steven Wood - Fairfield University
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From: JNJMC@ALASKA.BITNET (JMC)
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Subject: recent Presidential election
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:46:15 GMT
Reply-To: "ACAD1A::JNJMC" <JNJMC@ALASKA.BITNET>
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Here in Alaska, George Bush was a clear winner in the election.  And I
think it had a lot to do with the environmental positions of the can-
didates.  Being a state with most of its economy based on natural
resource extraction, and a huge amount of federal land, people are
afraid that environmentalism here will translate into the prohibition
of most of our economic activity.  Alaskans have lots of open space
and are not nearly as desirous of parks and wilderness areas as
Americans in more crowded places.  Instead, most want a way to live
on the land and have it provide a living.  The debate, here as
elsewhere, has been too polarized and too simplistic:  it should
not be a question of "jobs vs. environment" but of jobs and
environment.  What I think we need the most here is environmental
regulation of the resource extraction industries that fits the
unique situations in Alaska.  What we don't need is more & more
tourists in huge cruise ships that supposedly don't pollute.
People that have fished or worked in the woods for a living can't
be expected to be happy about being forced to drive a tour bus
or sell trinkets to tourists instead, because the place they
used to work got turned into a park. etc.

Right now, many of us are looking forward to having Al Gore come
up here and check things out with Wally Hickel.  Should be an
interesting discussion!
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 22:32:44 +0200
Reply-To:     George Chalaris NTU <ghal@LEON.NRCPS.ARIADNE-T.GR>
From:         George Chalaris NTU <ghal@LEON.NRCPS.ARIADNE-T.GR>

Dear frineds of the net,

I  am posting this message asking for  any references  concerning methods
 to introduce ecology related subjects, managed by GIS technology, to high
 school students.
Actually I am trying to understand how GIS technology, especially to
enviromental management problems, is being applied to different countries
at the education level.
I will try to summarize responses and post them on the net.


George Chalaris

GIS Analyst
Hellenic M. Geographical Service
Pindoy 8 , N. Philadelphia
Athens 143 42 - GREECE
FAX : + 30 1 2180037
VOICE:+ 30 1 2525790
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 11:13:13 EST
Reply-To:     Roger Burns <BFU@NIHCU.BITNET>
From:         Roger Burns <BFU@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject:      data on Africa

> I am a student at University of Colorado in Boulder.  Currently, I am
> writing a paper on toxic trade as it relates to Africa.  The wall I continue
> to run into involves as lack of substantial information specific to Africa.

Keep in mind that the less developed a nation may be, the less likely it
will have adequate statistics about anything, much less environmental
stats.  Some of the most interesting ideas in social science are
not readily researchable because of lack of data.  (If you continue
to pursue economics you may notice that the students who make the
most progress are those who study the U.S. labor force,
about which there is more data than any other topic area I know of.)

In any case, I just purchased a copy of The Green Encyclopedia yesterday,
a very nice book ($18.95).  Under "Toxic Chemicals" it mentions a
couple of international resources.  The World Bank (tel. 202-477-1234)
publishes "Safe Disposal of Hazardous Wastes: The Special Needs and Problems
of Developing Countries".  Never having seen it, I have no notion of
how much coverage it has of Africa.  Also, Greenpeace (tel. 202-462-1177)
publishes "The International Trade in Waste: A Greenpeace Inventory"
(1990); perhaps that might be useful.

Good luck!


 Roger Burns      bfu@cu.nih.gov / bfu@nihcu.bitnet
     pay-job: government staff economist
   volunteer: editor, CFS-NEWS Chronic Fatigue Syndrome Electronic Newsletter
              CFS-NEWS  on LISTSERV at NIHLIST.BITNET or LIST.NIH.GOV
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From: sacks@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU ((Aaron V. Sacks))
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Subject: using this list
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:25:48 GMT
Reply-To: "(Aaron V. Sacks)" <sacks@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>
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Hello again,
I have the same question about this list.  Is there a FAQ for this
server?
thanks again.
Aaron Sacks
sacks@acsu.buffalo.edu


> I would like to know from the organizers and/or other participants
> what the conception of this list is:  is it primarily a place to
> present cutting-edge information, or a place to bounce ideas back &
> forth, or a place to ask questions and get answers, or a type of
> news service, or an experts' discussion, or what?
> I don't believe this has been addressed on the list since I have
> joined (Jan. 92).
> Jan Conitz
> JNJMC@ALASKA
>
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:56:00 CST
Reply-To:     BTNYMWP@OSUCC.BITNET
From:         BTNYMWP@OSUCC.BITNET
Subject:      overpopulation

I appreciate the sentiment behind the anonymous contribution
concerning overpopulation.  It is a very common point of view.
  It is very true that we currently produce enough food to
fully feed the world, and that there is enough wealth, in theory,
for everyone on earth to be comfortable.
  BUT - if global population continues to double every several
decades, there will come a point where this is not true.  Exactly
when that point is depends upon how productive our agricultural
systems are, and how environmental degradation and/or technology
impinge upon that productivity.
  Unfortunately, a fair bit of "wealth" consists of non-renewable
or very slowly renewable (such as timber) resources.
  THEREFORE: even if wealth and food were equally distributed,
and agricultural production increased, overpopulation would become a
severe problem anyway.
  We do have to stop thinking of this as a north vs. south issue,
however.  It is clear that a wealthy person has a disproportionately
negative impact on the environment.  Therefore, curbing the growth
of the wealthy populace is likely to have more positive effects than
concentrating only on the undeveloped nations.
 -Mike Palmer*  btnymwp@osucc
botany department, oklahoma state university
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:28:21 EST
Reply-To:     "D.A.R.E. (DARE Environmental Group)" <DARE@DICKINSON.EDU>
From:         "D.A.R.E. (DARE Environmental Group)" <DARE@DICKINSON.EDU>
Subject:      help

I have a request.  Our group is educating local students in the fouth and
fifth grades about environmental awareness.  I am not part of this, but I
have been asked for ideas.  So I ask you.  Do any of you have ideas for
topics that 9 - 10-year old will grasp?

Thanks,

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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:44:40 -0500
Reply-To:     hopkins@MAIL.BUCKNELL.EDU
From:         hopkins@MAIL.BUCKNELL.EDU
Subject:      overpopulation

I am glad to read from the information that Tom Gray supplied in his
message Population and the presidential election that President elect
Clinton plans to "restore funding for the un's foreign aid to support
planned parenthood."  I do not agree that foreign aid from the US should be
sent conditionally based on our beliefs. However, I feel that planned
parenthood and other population control programs in third world countries
should not be looked at as a solution.  The argument forwarded by
population control programs is that overpopulation causes poverty and
environmental degredation.  I would tend to subscribe to Barry Commoner's
point of view in his article "Population and Poverty" that the real cause
lie in the maldistribution of wealth.  To end poverty we must grapple with
issues of redistribution and access to resources.  How can we contend that
people in the third world are going hungry because they have too many
children, when the US produces enough food to feed the world's population
and there are still over eleven million children in our country who face
the fear of being hungry.  I am not trying to discredit the importance of
such organizations as planned parenthood.  I do see their importance; I
just think these need to be coupled with policies that support a strong
basic needs approach to third world development, policies that try to
eliminate the discrepencies between the rich and poor of both the third and
first world.  These are policies I would like to see President-elect
Clinton support. I would be very interested in hearing responses on this
topic from others because it is an issue that is very important to me.
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:40:40 MST
Reply-To:     "KILLEBREW MATTHEW ROBERT" <killebre@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU>
From:         "KILLEBREW MATTHEW ROBERT" <killebre@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU>
Subject:      readings on envir & nafta

Hello, I am doing research for a paper on the environmental impact of NAFTA on
the US-Mexican border.  I am particularly interested in the effects this
agreement will have on the maquiladora industry and its current contribution to
the border pollution problem.  Some of the literature that I have found
infomative on this topic is L.  WALLACH'S ENVIRONMENTAL ANALYSIS OF NAFTA.-
NAFTA:  THE NEWEST FAILURE OF THE ANTI-ENVIRONMENTAL PRESIDENT September 1,
1992.  CLEANING UP THE BORDER; by MARY FARGUHARSON.  BUSINESS MEXICO, AUGUST,
1991.  and THE MAQUILADORA INDUSTRY:  ECONOMIC SOLUTION OR PROBLEM edited by
Khrosrow Fatemi.

I would appreciate any one input on reading they have found interesting that
are related to my topic.

Thank You,
Matthew Killebrew
killebre@ucsu.colorado.edu
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:11:19 EST
Reply-To:     "Marilyn H. Fetterman" <AN700018@BROWNVM.BITNET>
From:         "Marilyn H. Fetterman" <AN700018@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Info. request on bio-degradable plastics

The following was originally posted on DEVEL-L. If anyone has information
of use to Augusto, please send it either to him directly or to me for
forwarding. References to any companies that manufacture sunlight or
other bio-degradable plastics should also include addresses (he has the
address of one, Webster Industries).

>    Hello, my name is Augusto Madrid and i'm an industrial engineering
>student. As i'm doing my tesis, i'm searching for information on
>bio-degradable packing, specially on plastic bags that biodegrades on
>sunlight. Here in Peru there are no studies on this subjects so i
>would like you to help me on my job, that could be useful for our
>environmet.
>    Since now thank you very much for your kindness.
>Augusto.
>--
>903029@cenco.ulima.pe

Marilyn
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From: tgray@IGC.APC.ORG (Tom Gray)
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Subject: --Call for 'Green GNP' Numbers
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:14:17 GMT
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/* Written  6:10 pm  Nov 10, 1992 by tgray@igc.apc.org in igc:en.energy */

ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP CALLS FOR
'GREEN GNP' CALCULATIONS

The London-based World Wide Fund for Nature (WWFN), in a news
release July 22, called on governments to "reform their national
income accounting practices to reflect the costs of environmental
damage and the loss of natural resources."

A WWFN-sponsored publication, The Methodology for the Calculation
of Sustainable National Income, which the group said "offers an
important approach to measuring environmental degradation and
resource depletion in monetary terms," accompanied the release.
"Adoption of this methodology by appropriate authorities at
national and other levels can bring about a fundamental change in
the way the environment is treated," said Kevin Lyonette, Director
of Conservation Policy for WWFN.

The current system of calculating national accounts ignores
environmental degradation and resource use.  "It counts, for
example, environmental repairing or [pollution control]
expenditures as contributions to GNP," Lyonette said.  "This
conceals the environmental costs of economic activities, encourages
unsustainable activities, inflates a country's GNP, and distorts
the true value of a country's wealth."

For further information, contact Susanne Briggs, WWFN-United
Kingdom, phone 011-44-483-426444, or Someshwar Singh, WWFN-
International, phone 011-41-22-364-9566.

===============================

The American Wind Energy Association (AWEA) has authorized me to offer
an electronic edition of its newsletter, _Wind Energy Weekly_, from
which the above article is excerpted, at no cost.

For those of you who have not previously seen excerpts from back issues
on Usenet or Bitnet, the _Weekly_ reports on the outlook for renewable
energy, energy-related environmental issues, and renewable energy
legislation in addition to wind industry trade news.  The electronic
edition normally runs about 10kb in length.

If you would like a free electronic subscription, send me an e-mail
request.  Please include information on your position, organization,
and reason for interest in the publication.

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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:20:11 +0100
Reply-To:     kparker@MAIL.BUCKNELL.EDU
From:         kparker@MAIL.BUCKNELL.EDU
Subject:      Natural gas hydrates

This past spring the McKelvey Forum ( U.S. Geological Survey and others )
focused significant attention on Natural gas hydrates as an alternative
energy resource. In light of the emphasis toward more economic, efficiet
and environmentally compatible sources of energy, it surprises me that
information on Natural gas hydrates remains obscure and unpublicized.
Furthermore, little has been done by the U.S.toward recovery of this
resource in the near future. In contrast, Russian hydrate fields have been
sucessfully productive for several years. The advantages to persuing this
energy source seem indisputable.
   1) Economically;
       -lower production costs than of coal or domestic oil
       -alternative to $60 billion per year in OPEC oil imports
       -thousands of new jobs associated with domestic gas production
       -low distribution costs as compared to oil and coal
       -resource base estimated at 34,000 trillion cubic meters (USGS)

   2) Environmentally;
       -more efficient, cleaner burning than other fuels
       -less pollution associated with production and distribution
       -estimated $6 billion in new revenues and royalties from domestic
          production which could be allocated to environmental programs and
          research and development of renewable energy resources

   3) Politically;
       -a cure to our oil dependency problem


Any responses are welcomed and encouraged.
                                                  Kimberly Parker
                                                  Bucknell University
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:28:05 -0500
Reply-To:     nmason@MAIL.BUCKNELL.EDU
From:         nmason@MAIL.BUCKNELL.EDU
Subject:      recent Presidential election

*****I would like to apologize to all of you who responded to me.  The mail that
 I received was lost somehow. I would greatly appreciate it if you would send
 your messages again.  SORRY!!

With the results of the past election, I cannot help but think that the
 environmental stances of the two candidates had a dramatic impact.  I have been
 through much debate with fellow students here at Bucknell who do not believe
 this to be true.  In my eyes, along with the abortion issue, it was the
 environmental issue that "broke" Bush and his chances for re-election.  Please
 reply to share your views of the election.

P.S.-I did see the response (I am very sorry, but it was erased before I could
 copy the sender) about the New York Times article which stated that about one
 in every twenty voters voted based somewhat on the environment.  Though one in
 twenty seems like a small number, wouldn't you say that taken in context of the
 record voter turn-out, it became, over the entire country, a very big number?
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:49:15 -0500
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From:         nmason@MAIL.BUCKNELL.EDU
Subject:      recent Presidential election

  With the results of the past election, I cannot help but think that the
environmental stances of the two candidates had a dramatic impact.  I have
been through much debate with fellow students here at Bucknell who do not
believe this to be true.  In my eyes, along with the abortion issue, it was
the environmental issue that "broke" Bush and his chances for re-election.
Please reply to share your views of the election.
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 11:19:02 -0800
Reply-To:     John Martinson <marty@EQUINOX.UNR.EDU>
From:         John Martinson <marty@EQUINOX.UNR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Natural gas hydrates

I suspect that I'm not alone among the netters in being unfamiliar with
a hydrated form of methane (the principal ingredient of natural gas). I
think some explanation of the chemical structure and origin of hydrated
CH4 would be helpful to many of us if you post future references to your
recent one on this subject. John Martinson -- Univ of Nevada, Reno
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:24:22 -0400
Reply-To:     Jeremy Whitlock <WHITLOCK@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
From:         Jeremy Whitlock <WHITLOCK@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA>
Subject:      U.S. Renewable Research Exceeds Nuclear

An article in a recent issue of _Nuclear Canada_ (not well known for
supplying adequate references), lists the following figures for federal
R&D expenditures in the cumulative period 1976-1992 in the U.S.:

Nuclear energy:  $3.2 billion  ($800 million for LWR's, $2.4 billion for
(22% of supply)                 reactor safety and advanced designs)

Coal energy:     $3.2 billion  (for advanced technology, combustion systems,
(54% of supply)                 and magnetohydrodynamics)

Renewable energy:  $4 billion  ($1.7 billion for photovoltaic systems,
(0.5 percent)                   $1.5 billion for solar thermal, $800 million
                                for wind systems)

Note that the last category does not include hydraulic power, as it shouldn't
in such comparisons.

Jeremy.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 11:00:40 +0200
Reply-To:     George Chalaris NTU <ghal@LEON.NRCPS.ARIADNE-T.GR>
From:         George Chalaris NTU <ghal@LEON.NRCPS.ARIADNE-T.GR>

Dear Netters,

I  am asking for  any references  concerning methods to introduce
ecology related subjects managed by GIS technology to high school
students.
Actually I am trying to understand how GIS technology, especially to
enviromental management problems, is being applied to different countries
at the education level.
I will try to summarize responses and post them on the net.


George Chalaris

GIS Analyst
Hellenic M. Geographical Service
Pindoy 8 , N. Philadelphia
Athens 143 42 - GREECE
FAX : + 30 1 2180037
VOICE:+ 30 1 2525790
INTERNET  ghal@leon.nrcps.ariadne-t.gr
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