From: Mike_Whalen@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Mike Whalen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: C= speaks!!! let's spread the words!!!
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:38:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: agwbbs.Mike_Whalen.0kmw
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Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Wed 29 Jul 92 19:06, Gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (gregory R 
wrote:

 GR>  "Here you go.  Here's the dozen and a half products we've been
 GR> working on lately.  Go ahead, sure, you can publish whatever you
 GR> like,
 GR> no problem.  Of course, we really don't know if ANY of these things
 GR> will ever be something that will actually be sold.  And they're all
 GR> unfinished, and really don't show any professionalism because they're
 GR> unfinished products, but that's okay.  We don't care about having a
 GR> bad image, as long as you all know everything we're doing.  We don't
 GR> want you to think we're lazy bums, you know.  No, it's no problem,
 GR> really."

 GR> Yup.

  But Greg.. how long has it been since they have said anything? That
letter was damage control (as someone else pointed out).

  Look at Apple? They released 3 Powerbooks, the Mac Classic (or one really
low-end machine.. I am not sure that was the name), an LC II, Quadras
700,900, and 950 ALL IN ONE YEAR!

  What have we seen in a year?

 GR> If they had really passed the Amiga yet, there wouldn't be any
 GR> selling.  They may have more depth, but they still don't have half of
 GR> the versatility of the Amiga, and they're a far cry from replacing
 GR> the
 GR> Amiga in the video realm.

  You are right.. for now. I honestly can't agree that if we stay exactly
the way we are, we are going to be the king of video forever.

  I have a friend in camera work and he tells me that the Toaster is
wonderful, the only problem with it is the fact that the TV stations and
production houses have already spent thousands of dollars to get all the
titling and editing equipment... Now I know this is not all the Toaster
does.. but you know what I am getting at.

  Plus, it's going to take a really good bit to convince me that
"Multimedia" is going to go anywhere. It's so sketchy right. Even magazines
such as Publish as grasping at things to write about.. it's not a bad
idea.. it's just really obscure.. not nailed down exactly what it is.

  Besides it will do the same thing that DTP did. People who make crap will
just be able to make better looking crap.

 GR> And if they can help it, it'll stay that way.  They work on far too
 GR> many things which may never make it to market to blab every little
 GR> thing they tinker with.

  I still stand on what I said before. Apple : 8 machines in one year.
Commodore 0 to 1 (if the 3000 is still in the last year). You could
actually count 3 machines.. but I am not sure of the differences between
the 3000s. I think it was just what it came with.. but even the Quadra 900
is mucho different from the 950.

 GR> They're all a whole lot more than that.  The 3000 was a total rewrite
 GR> of the Amiga itself.  A new bus, new arrays, motherboard SCSI, a
 GR> whole
 GR> new system, practically.  The 2000 had Zorro II and a processor slot,
 GR> and made lots of little changes.  It's also as sturdy as a brick wall
 GR> and you can run your house on its power supply.

  Tell me though.. what advantage is there to buying a 3000 over a 2000?
ECS? It's still not as good as Macs or IBMs anymore. Heck, the 3000 even
had initial problems with fitting and running the Toaster.


 GR> With a 500, you've got ONE slot.  I use more than that NOW.  And I'm
 GR> getting a few MORE things.  You need SCSI?  Fine.  You need a
 GR> multi-serial card?  Fine.  As long as you remove that SCSI.  No, you
 GR> can't have both.  Oh, and now you want to hook it to Ethernet?  Sure.
 GR> Just remove the SCSI, and box that multi-serial...  oh, wait, that
 GR> won't work, because you'll never have enough storage without that

  I said, "I" didn't see any point to getting a 2000 to a 500. All I want
out of it is RAM and a harddrive. I don't want the GVP TV Tuner or
Ethernet. What's the point of my getting a 2000 then? I don't want a
Toaster either.

  I have always left myself to be thinking about the future. I never felt
the Amiga was going to get anywhere. I liked it.. I still do. But I knew
that Commodore was behind it. I owned a 64 for several year and a 128d
before it was dropped. I know what Commodore does.. and I didn't have any
optimism.

  But I need something powerful at the time and I found IBMs to be
perpetually boring. I will have to go Mac soon considering I am looking
into a career into DTP.

The smiley things are sick. I meant to quote your .SIG.. that's really
funny!!

Heheh

Mike.. 

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Phillip Robinson author of Washington Post/San Jose Mercury
article is RIGHT about Commodore atrocities regarding the Amiga!
Let's make HIM our voice! Since Commodore won't listen to us!

                              Phil Robinson
                              P.O. Box 1377
                           Sausalito, CA  94966
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