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From: ce425@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Danny Z. Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing Vietnam
Date: 9 Oct 1992 17:39:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Brian Says: They told a story about
North Vietnamese snipers shooting at them while out in the water. They
paddled towards the horizon out of range and stayed there for a few
hours......I thought shoulder hoppers were dangerous......


Well, it seems there are places that make Oxnard look good!

Danny
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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: surfin OZ
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:16:16 GMT

ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen) writes:
 
>Have not had a chance yet to see if there is a decent correlation
>between the maps and actual surf conditions as yet .

So why don't you post a copy of the file every couple of days for us to look 
at ?
We'll compare them with the surf and when they don't add up bag you out Lud...
(only joking).

>Cheer's, keep surfing,
>Lud.
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Life goes on...and on....
From: rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Robert M. Opalko)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Fatal Shark attack in NE Australia
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:09:37 GMT
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science

In article <1av8heINNar@fido.asd.sgi.com> airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct7.164317.15473@ra.msstate.edu>, rmo@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu writes:
>> >> In article <1992Oct2.090421.1@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au> g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au writes:
>   Hey BOB, stop being a self-righteous bozo. Your ancestors nuked all the
>   bears and wolves and indians that used to live here. 

Huh?  Is your point on my side or yours?  This is exactly what I'm talking
about - senseless killing. 

>   So don't be surprised when a surfer takes an attack personally and
>   wants to go out and kill sharks.  Humans are just animals and they 
>   fight back when you fuck with them. It's a fact of life.

I`ve had 31 stitches and staples in my leg and a 7 inch scar from a tiger shark
bite 6 years ago; at least 5 or 6 man of war and jellyfish stings to leave
permanent scars: guess what?  I still surf, but I don't hate sharks or 
anything else in the ocean.  I realize that they live in this world too - I
don't have to go out and kill them to show what a tough guy I am.

>   Only when something is totally whipped do they suddenly get all 
>   goo-ey and set aside parks for them, and then only in places they
>   wouldn't live anyway. Then the really annoying ones get 
>   hypocritically self-righteous. 

Oh yeah, let me guess; you were created from divine inspiration and born
to surf.  Don't let anything or anyone in your way.

Are you any relation to Ted BUNDY, the psychopath killer convicted recently
of butchering so many people to death?

Get a life.

Bob.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa)
Subject: Re: Mailing List 4 SURFING PICTURES
Keywords: .gifs
Organization: HP,NADO Santa Clara, CA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:03:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.072200.1932@paradise.pegasus.com> bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson) writes:
> O.K. I have an idea that might make most of us happy as clams. 

shit, i'd rather not get dipped in batter and fried...
 
> The reason why posting gif files or any other images to non picture
> groups is frowned upon is to keep the images in groups that can be
> restricted by administrators. By centralizing them you can choose not
> to accept any groups by the name:  alt.binaries.XX etc. This keeps the
> time connected and the cost down and some more restrictive Gestapo
> sites think pictures don't provide any service to their organizations.

at the same time, that is why we have alt groups. some sites don't even get
alt.* . if we were to ever become a rec group, gif's would be forbidden.
so again, posting them in this group is okay by me. i said this a week ago
and nobody has bitched. if anyone is going to complain, i suggest now is the
time.

> With all of the interest an unavailability of files to view I propose
> a solution. How about creating a mailing list for surf-gif images of
> any type ?? It doesn't have to moderated, it can be free and unrestricted.
> In fact the list doesn't have to be restricted to only pictures. We could
> even talk about things that are unacceptable in this forum.

if we do a mailing list, it should be for gifs and surf-political issues
i.e., surf rider foundation functions, congressional reviews of laws
pertaining to surfers, etc... but... those should be here too. i'm not sure
i see the need to a wholly seperat part of this group. it's not like we are
ahead of alt.butt.harp or anything. :-)
 
> I post something and get flamed. I want to kick someones ass but out of fear
> off showing off and looking like an asshole, I wimp out and apologize instead
> of cremating the guy/gal and showing who and what I am made of. (On the net
> none of this means anything anyway cause you almost never meet and can say
> anything anyhow) By creating a list we won't violate any protocol by discussing
> anything we choose because if you can't handle the heat you won't sign up
> for the list. Surfers are unlike any other people (rude) and need to have a 

if you aren't going to say it here, don't say it. if someone pisses me off,
i let 'em know. if i take heat, i do. that's why i keep my trusty dr.
asbestos [tm] undies on hand!

> time the list would look like:
 
just because they post, doesn't mean they read. we had a survey posted here
last week by a non-reader. i suggest you take requests to be on the mailing
list. i personally would like to be on it, should you have a need to make
one.
 
daniel.

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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: aed@netcom.com (Andrew Davidson)
Subject: Re: The longboard is mine!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:45:25 GMT

In article <1bfoi7INNg3@fido.asd.sgi.com> airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:
>  Btw, shouldn't a longboard weigh around 18lbs? 31 sounds pretty hefty.
>

yeah this sounds a little heavy. but not to worry, it will probably be
a good learning board. my first loang board was given to me by a
friend. he bought used for about $40. he then added about 20 lbs of
resin learning how to fix dings. This air craft carrier must of
weighed close to 50 lbs when I got. but it was a great board to learn
on.

If you are really concerned about weight have a pro fix it.

Andy
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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa)
Subject: Re: Lud's .gif Files
Organization: HP,NADO Santa Clara, CA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:20:28 GMT

In article <1avou1INNv1@sol.deakin.OZ.AU> ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen) writes:
 
> What! didn't you recocgnise me :-), 
> no, it's not me :-(, just some locals on a typical winter day down under :-).
 
well, maybe the rest of the group needs an impartial[tm] review of the
available gifs from lud... okay fine. i'll do it!

	bells.gif: a shot from a cliff looking down to a beautiful line up.
	the view is of the right. 3 waves. the first has broken and a
	wonderful right peels with a very cool off-shore. the second wave
	is about to break. massive offshore spray. looks closed out to the
	left (bummer for us goofy foots...), but the right should be a 
	righteous ride. behind this is another upcoming swell. minor lines
	beyond that. no one out AT ALL!!! LET'S GO BUDS! looks to be about
	a 6 foot day (measure from the back, tough guys. that's how I
	measure...)
	
	bells.gif rating (1 to 10 scale): 8 (would be higher save for the
	overall quality. I'm using xgif to view. putting this in the
	background may make the picture seem more out of focus.)

	winki-b.gif: a close up of a LARGE wave peeling off to the right.
	straight-on shot. some surfers board lays about at the base of the 
	wave awaiting to get snapped in half. it appears the attached
	surfer has bailed off to the right of his board to safer digs...
	a very hollow wave. looks to be about 6 to 8 feet. lot's of spray,
	looks like major off shore breeze (read: wind). this gif is black & 
	white, has sepia tone quality (on my system).

	winki-b.gif rating: 6 (lot's of spray, no other real action)

	winki-c.gif: obviously another shot of the same place. same right. 
	same major off shore. There is a guy riding this beauty. he is a 
	bit out front. looks like he is planning on heading into the tube.
	winki's appears to be a beauty of a tube riding spot...

	winki-c.gif rating: 4 (very dark, until i turn my monitor way too 
	bright. it is a shot from further back though)

brian kiviat sent me a gif...

	surfer.gif: who knows the spot... might be pipeline, seems not steep
	enough to me to be pipe though... a beautiful left, taken from very
	close-up (telephoto of course...). there is a surfer in this shot.
	he is in the middle of a bottom turn that if played properly will
	pull him into a tube that will be at least double over-head. wave 
	appears to be about an 8 footer. very clear, focused crisp shot.

	surfer.gif rating: 9 ( the next shot in the sequence would likely be
	a 10)


my .29 cents


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From: mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Buying a longboard
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:40:37 GMT
Organization: CERFnet

In article <1992Oct7.073320.10749@paradise.pegasus.com> bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson) writes:
>		1) How many dings does it have ?
>		2) Were they patched correctly and soon enough to prevent
>		   water damage ?
>		3) Was it left out in the sun to yellow ?
>		4) What kind and how many stringers does it have ?
>		5) Is the shape and fin original ?
>		6) Is it serialized and readable (It might have been owned
>		   by someone famous and the ## will help track it) ?
>		7) Has the deck glass separated from the foam ?
>		8) What kind of foam is it (Clark, poly (generic), etc ?

A guy I know who does restorations (Joe Roper) says "They're all worth
saving". 

BTW, On old boards, the color is not in an under the glass spray. It
is in the form of a pigmented resin which is on top of the regular
glass and resin (which is in turn over the foam/balsa/etc). So, even
if the board in question is looking diseased and yellow, it can be
made to look really good by the application of a layer of the old 
pigmented stuff. Disease of the stringer(s) is another questiong.
This depends on how many $$$$ you want to lay into the board. It is
possible for a skilled craftsman to pear away diseased stringer and
replace it with new, good wood, which is epoxied to the original.

You probably wouldn't want to surf a board which has had this done
to it though .....

In the same vain, original fiberglass can be removed and replaced
with new and it is possible to remove those nasty brown stains 
if suffitient time and attention is given. We are talking BIG $$
here though and you have to decide how much of that board is
going to be original when you are done. 

The restoration process is a nasty long one and must be performed
by a truly skilled craftsman/woman. Your average ding repairer
just isn't going to cut it on this one. Joe has had my old
silver label Hobie for 3 months now and hasn't done anything
on it yet. "It was busy with dings all summer, then I went on
 a trip to recover, and I have to feel like wearing a respirator
" atitude. Maybe I'll have it before next summer ......

Again, BTW, the California surf museum has a collection of really
nice old surf stuff and is well worth a visit (near the peir,
Oceanside). They have the best posters for sale, too. I got a 
classis B&W print of a Hawiian dude in 1890 for under $8. It is
hanging on the wall next to my 1939 paddleboard (and that's another
story completely).

Rubios on Encinitas Blvd has a lovely original (clear)
Phil Edwards board on the wall.

Also, I have to say that surfboards were meant to be surfed, not
as wall hangers. I surf mine.


Mike
"A brit in yank land"
From: tcritchl@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tod Critchlow)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report SIO
Keywords: Flat, with promise
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:39:13 GMT

Sorry for not posting recently, but
my wife just had a baby boy.  So here's the
report from SIO in La Jolla. 


The sky is heavy and gray with that kind of over-
cast look that suggests it's going to storm.
(I love this kind of fall weather.)
However, surf is small, but with the high tide here at
Scripps there has been an occaisonal neckhigh/2 foot surf/1foot
swell wave.  Before the wind kicked in it was smooth
and glassy.  Sorry I didn't check any of the 
other North County spots today.

Did anyone else here rumors of a NW swell do do hit in
the near future?


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From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Lud's .gif Files
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:08:26 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com


In article <1badv3INNffc@sol.deakin.OZ.AU>, ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU writes:
> In article <BvtvM4.B5z@scd.hp.com> hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa) writes:
> 
> >well, maybe the rest of the group needs an impartial[tm] review of the
> >available gifs from lud... okay fine. i'll do it!
> >
> >	bells.gif: a shot from a cliff looking down to a beautiful line up.
> >	the view is of the right. 3 waves. the first has broken and a
> >	wonderful right peels with a very cool off-shore. the second wave
> >	is about to break. massive offshore spray. looks closed out to the
> >	left (bummer for us goofy foots...), but the right should be a 
> >	righteous ride. behind this is another upcoming swell. minor lines
> >	beyond that. no one out AT ALL!!! LET'S GO BUDS! looks to be about
>                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> If you look carefully, you can see three guys out (sorry about the
> poor quality), look between the 1st and second wave, one guy is at
> the base of the the second wave,
> stroking like hell to get to the shoulder, and the other two are
> further to the left, out of the impact zone.
> Might give a better perspective of the size of you can pick them out.
> 

   Lud, I got out my trusty SGI 'snoop' program and magnified this image.
   I count about 6 pixels that aren't blue. Now that you tell me, 
   sure I can imagine that those non-blue pixels are surfers, but heck lud, 
   I can get sattelite photos with more pixels-per-meter. Of course, then
   they'd have to kill me, but that's another story.

   So next time, I want a huge 12bits-per-component full-RGB, 5Kx3K image.

   And yes, I did just spend my weekend writing image-processing
   microcode for the SGI RealityEngine. And no, I haven't even gotten
   one of the two new boards I got wet yet.

   later all,
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson)
Subject: Re: Mailing List 4 SURFING PICTURES
Organization: Quantum Reef Project (Big Island of Hawaii)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:20:25 GMT

airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) wrote:
>
>In article <26353@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil writes:
>> In alt.surfing, bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson) writes:
>> `O.K. I have an idea that might make most of us happy as clams.
>> `The reason why posting gif files or any other images to non picture
>> `groups is frowned upon is to keep the images in groups that can be
>> `restricted by administrators. By centralizing them you can choose not
>> 
>
>   I applaud Bud for offering a solution, but I'm not sure there's a problem.
>   alt.surfing has incredibly low bandwidth. The occasional gif might
>   put us above alt.butt.harp, rather than in the unenviable position we
>   have assumed behind it.
>
>   And as far as feeling censored, well, BUD, just say whatever the fuck
>   you want to. Heck, you can even end sentences with prepositions. 
>   This is an alt group.  No one reads it except for the people you 
>   listed, more or less, anyway.

Thanks for the vote (I guess). You know I was surprised how many people
who never post sent mail asking to be on the list. I guess posting is
like surfing in a way: once you do it you can't stop. As far as
prepositions go, I am the king of ending sentences with. Not to mention
never having partners who have the same day off to go surfing with.

P.S. High Surf Warnings were just announced the news on !!

And if your reading this Chris and really missing Hawaii. While we were
just about to sit down to dinner tonight, an eight inch centipede fell off
one of our fans and landed on our table. When I went to kill the fucker
he wound up and jumped at me an landed on my arm. Lucky for me I was faster
than it and I got it anyway. You haven't lived until you've seen Hawaii
like this right !!

.......Bud
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 Radioactive cats have 18 half-lives.
From: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Mailing List 4 SURFING PICTURES
Date: 15 Oct 1992 16:04:04 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Reply-To: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ux5.lbl.gov
Keywords: .gifs

In article <1992Oct14.072200.1932@paradise.pegasus.com> bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson) writes:
>  
>  [ neat mailing list deleted ]

Just for starters you missed Theresa. But I like it. Storm me
with some gifs 

=B-)
Still all wet
Nancy Travis
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: smith@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au (Scott Smith)
Subject: 25feet at Margaret River (WA)
Followup-To: alt.surfing
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 23:36:16 GMT

Just thought I'd chuck this one in for you.  I was at the surf club
yesterday and some of the guys were talking about the swell we were getting
after the seabreeze came in.  It was good to see good clean 6ft sets coming
in at Leighton Beach!  But apparently there were 25ft swells down south at
Margaret River.
From: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Pleasure Point
Date: 7 Oct 1992 15:57:23 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Distribution: world
Reply-To: njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: ux5.lbl.gov

In article <1at3kbINNr37@fido.asd.sgi.com> airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:
>
>In article <1asv7oINNm3i@overload.lbl.gov>, njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov writes:
>   ...I'm tired of the shortboard vs. longboard thing,
>   (it's stereotypeing after all, and there are *lots* of
>   good, considerate, safe, and cool longboarders)

Right on John! Surfing is surfing.
When I get better (please God) I'm want to try a thruster again.
Couldn't catch any waves last time I tried and I really just want
some RIDES.
>   but you kind of pushed it here.
>   The original poster is clearly lame, so don't dignify his posting
>   by saying stupid shit like: "you're an 18 wheeler and he's a
>   motorcycle". sheesh. I'll show you a motorcycle.
>

That WAS pretty stupid, huh! I ride a motorcycle. Why did I say that?
Water on the brain, I guess.

I guess I will get thrashed in the washing machine for that post.
Maybe I'll punish myself by surfing in San Francisco again this weekend.
>   Friends don't let friends ride longboards when it's pumping.

When its REALLY pumping, I'll be the maniac up on the cliff hooting.
>


Red faced (even with a tan) =B-}
Nancy Travis
From: ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Lud's .gif Files
Date: 7 Oct 1992 22:38:57 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: aragorn.cm.deakin.oz.au

In article <25987@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>I just viewed the 3 .gif files Lud sent me......man-O-man some serious
>waves....I'm in awe.....I'll try to post 'em to alt.pictures today....
>....Lud, do we know anyone in the pic's?

What! didn't you recocgnise me :-), 
no, it's not me :-(, just some locals on a typical winter day down under :-).


Cheer's, keep surfing,
Lud.


Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: Danny.Clark@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Danny Clark)
Subject: re: Please Help
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:17:39 GMT

Fellow surfers:  I have formulated the following questionnaire.  I will
cross-post
it to talk.abortion,  alt.politics.correct,  soc.feminism,  and any other
group that has nothing at all to do with surfing.

              Please answer these 7 questions and return.

1.) Do you think equal rights for long and short boards  is generally a
good idea?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Only at Wind-n-Sea   [ ]

2.) Are you a pro surfer?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Only when I get paid [ ]

3.) Are you in favor of artificial reefs?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
rights and responsibilities before a good south swell hits?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Only in the summer   [ ]

5.) What sex are you?
Male                 [ ]
Female               [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

6.) How old is your board?
Under 18             [ ]
19 to 65             [ ]
Over 65              [ ]

7.) How many years of education have you completed?
Grade School (rubber mat)       [ ]
High School    (short board)    [ ]
College            (longboard)  [ ]
More               (bodyboard)  [ ]


Thanks for you support.

Danny
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