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From: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Better Cross-over frequency?\
Date: 30 Sep 1992 06:15:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
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In a previous article, jseiler@sei.cmu.edu (Joseph Seiler) says:

>What is the better cross-over frequency for a woofer, not a sub?
>1600hz or 800hz?
>Please respond today before 4:00
>Thanks Jseiler
>
>

The correct answer would depend on so many variables that you havn't given!
Any answer would be mere guess work.

It'll also depend on the tweeter ( or midrange ) unit, the desired slope,
etc!

-- 
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raise in US history; right behind Mr. Reagan. They're the real slickersters,
with their theivery fingers in our wallets, with a grin and a gleem in their 
eyes.   What a "no new taxes" bastard.
From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: U2 Tickets for sale
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:56:48 GMT

I have 4 tickets for the U2 concert on October 30.  They are excellent
seats: center stage field.  I am asking $95 for each, or B.O.  If you are
interested, please E-mail me.


--
"I drank what?" -- Socrates

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
From: eric@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Eric Hansen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: SAE Amp, Proton Preamp, DAK/dbx NR unit: FOR SALE
Summary: I have these units for sale
Keywords: SAE PROTON DAK DBX AMP PREAMP FOR SALE
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:51:42 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Hi,
  I have the following stereo equipment for sale.  Please email me if you are
interested or want more information.  Prices do not include shipping.

*** SAE A205 Dual High Resolution Power Amplifier ***
Specs:  Switchable 200/100 watts per channel class-A circuitry,
0.025% IMD, 125 dB S/N (A-weighted).  2 db headroom.
It is nearly three years old and in excellent condition.  >>>> $300 <<<< 
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*** Proton P1100 Preamplifier ***
Specs:  THD and IMD 0.003%, 105 dB S/N. (line source).
Has record and listen selectors.  Inputs for phono (accepts MM & MC), tape1,
tape2, tuner, CD, video.  Bass, treble and balance knobs.  Subharmonic filter,
Bass EQ swith, mute switch.  Two levels of preamp-out, both gold plated RCA.
It is nearly three years old and in excellent condition.  >>>> $150 <<<<
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*** BSR DAK1 Variable-frequency noise reduction system ***
Specs:  THD and IMD < 0.1%, variable frequency cutoff from 800 
Hz to 20 kHz, effective noise reduction up to 40 dB.
Provides noise reduction without the use of recorded formatting (such as
Dolby B & C).  When I took the cover off (I was curious), there were a bunch
of "dbx" chips inside.  Email for more info and "listening" information.
Three years old, in excellent condition.>>>> $75 <<<<
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I am selling this equipment because I have upgraded to new speakers and amp.
I no longer use a preamp (since I run direct from my CD player).  I will ship
UPS insured or COD.

- Eric

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From: YKWON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (415)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Golden Ears?
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:52:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: SLACVM.92280.135232YKWON
 <1992Oct6.024047.21236@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> <23819@alice.att.com>
 <1992Oct6.132800.11107@walter.cray.com>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center


  >Can you hear the changes in temperature or humidity in you listening room?
No, I can't.

  >Can you hear the difference with the door open or closed?
Yes, I can.

  >Can you hear thermal gradiants dispersing the sound in the room?
No, I can't.


Just for reference, I can usually hear the differences between speakers.
I can hear that my NAD 5425 CD player sound better than my old (> 5yrs old)
pioneer CD player (PD 4050?), both single playing.

But I cannot hear the sonic differences in cables and other tweaks...
Except, I can hear really cheap cable adding lots of noise to the
signal.   Although I couldn't hear sonic advantages of CD rings, I observed
it cured one of my CD's skipping problem on my old CD player.

-Youngjoon

PS: Usual disclaimer.  My opinion is nothing to do with Stanford/SLAC/DOE...
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: DAT Royalty - Only on blank tape?
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:22:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.190659.7320@portal.vpharm.com> dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.135930.25986@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp 
>(Bill Vermillion) writes:

>>What's left of the American recording companies?  The Japanese only
>>bought what was left after the Europeans had purchased the rest.
>>Sony's purchase of Columbia, and M(forgot whic Japanese M compnay)'s
>>purchase of MCA  put all of the major companies under foreign control.

>Naw...What about WEA (Warner/Elektra/Atlantic{/Reprise/Sire/Atco/East-West/
>Nonesuch/Asylum})? They're part of the
>Time-Warner conglomerate, which is still decidedly American.

Are you sure about that.  I thought I saw somewhere that Time/Warner
was foreign controlled or at least highly owned.   That congomerate is
also heavy into print and cable systems too.  The control a lot of
production and distribution.    I remember when I was in broadcast
watching Warner grow.  Do you know they purchased the Altantic/Atco
group for $7 million dollars.    Boy - what a bargain.  But that was in
the days when last years hits were considered as important as last
years newspapers!    Catalog was considered only important for major
artists.  What a change in the past several years.


>The one other major minor that remains under US control is Fantasy
>(Fantasy/Galaxy/Prestige/Riverside/Stax/Specialty/HDH/etc.), which was 
>almost sold to Polygram earlier this year.

I'd consider Fantasy more of large independant that a major - but ...


-- 
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                - bill@bilver.uucp 
                - ..!{peora|ge-dab|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
From: 17@unpcs1.cs.unp.ac.za (compTMILLS)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Peavey Pro-Fex MIDI Guitar Sound Module !!!!
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:13:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: unpcs1.17.1.718362815
Distribution: world
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, UNP
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc021.cc.unp.ac.za

To all you music dudes ot there,greetings

I read an article on a new guitar sound module,called the Peavey Pro-Fex
MIDI Guitar Sound Module,a couple of months ago.I did not get enough info
from the article so I decided to use the network to hopefully get some !

I would like to know the current price for the sound module from anybody
who has it on hand (never mind the currency).If anyone has had the 
opportunity to use the module,some feedback on its capabilities would be 
much appreciated.What I would also like to know is what the best MIDI guitar 
is,that could be used with the sound module.

Many thanks for your time.

Yours in guitaring
T.J.Mills
( tmills@unpcs1.cs.unp.ac.za or tmills@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za )
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad)
Subject: Re: need recommendations for center channel speaker
Reply-To: stud1b53@bnr.ca (Vilhelm Boggild)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 13:15:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.044043.15378@dunix.drake.edu>, kjt001@dunix.drake.edu (Kevin Tieskoetter) writes:
|> hold on, hold on...you guys are talking about projection TVs and buying
|> identical speakers for the center channel....I'm a college student...I
|> don't have money...I spent $200 for a pair of front speakers (and I'm
|> estatic about them...for the price, I can't believe the sound), and I
|> can't spend much on another speaker.
|> 
|> I was talking in the $20-$40 range...and no new TV (besides, a
|> projection
|> tv wouldn't even fit in my room...)
|> 
|> -kevin
|> 

   I think the important thing to look for is a good tonal match
between the left, right and center speakers.  Although in the
$20-$40 range that might be difficult to do, I would recommend
trying out a few center channel speakers in conjunction with your
front speakers.  Then buy the one that seems least out of place
and return the rest.

-- 
Anshu Prasad
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
** The opinions expressed are my own and not those of my employer,
   Bell Northern Research Ltd.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: jwr@clinicom.com (Jim Riley)
Subject: Velodyne 810 ??
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:06:30 GMT
Organization: CliniCom Incorporated, Boulder, CO
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I am wondering if someone here could tell me/send me their thoughts on the
Velodyne 810 subwoofer.  I have seen quite a bit of talk about Velodyne here
in rec.audio and coincidentally was introduced to the 810 from my sound guy.
The sub-woofer is to accompany a pair of Rock Solids...
He offered to sell me one for $500.00, I believe they list for $600.00.

Any thoughts would be appreciated,

Jim
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: demaine@ee.ualberta.ca (Cal Demaine)
Subject: Velodyne Problem!
Summary: Noise problems with Velodyne VA-1012
Keywords: subwoofer, noise
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:27:50 GMT

I recently purchased a Velodyne VA-1012, and have discovered a problem that
is MOST annoying.

Every once in a while (say, 5 minutes every 10) the damned thing will buzz
as if it has a grounding problem, and then stop.  The volume of the buzz is
proportional to the volume setting of the subwoofer, and it quite noticable
at the normal listening level.

My question is: Does anyone else have one of these babies, and has noticed
this problem, or an absense of it?  I'd be very interested to know.

Besides this problem, the unit is great.

   Thanks,
     - Cal Demaine   (demaine@bode.ee.ualberta.ca)

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: j0p7771@tamuts.tamu.edu (Jason Perez)
Subject: need recommendations for center channel speaker
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:47:46 GMT


  i'm about to get a center speaker for my Dolby Pro-Logic setup.  a Yamaha MX-M70 will
be driving this speaker (50W mono).  what's a good center speaker to get?  Polk has one
for about $140 and Pioneer sells one for about $60.  i've heard the Polk and it sounds pretty
good, but have not heard the Pioneer one yet.


Jason Perez			    | "Frodo Lives!"       "Gig 'em!"
j0p7771@tamuts.tamu.edu		    | Texas A&M Univ. - it's not just for 
j0p7771@sigma.tamu.edu		    |                   farmers anymore!
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: haruyama@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (shinichiro.haruyama)
Subject: YAMAHA Tuner for sale
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:14:06 GMT


YAMAHA Tuner for sale

TX-950 with remote control

Features are...

Computer Servo Lock tuning system
Digital fine tuning
Absolute liner phase IF amplifier alpha circuitry
6-way multi-status station memory
2-position IF mode selector
40 station random access preset tuning
programmable 2 antenna inputs
2-mode station display with station name display
remote control unit
Weight : 7.5 pounds
FM:
	50 dB sens.
	S/N (mono/stereo) 96/90 dB
	Frequency response : 20 ~ 15,000 Hz +-0.5 dB
AM:
	S/N 52 dB

Bought one year ago and used it for less than 
100 hours. Excellent condition.
Selling for $300
Please call at 908-889-9342
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: ssr@cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: Re: Ultimate Cable?
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:34:35 GMT

ULTIMATE CABLES FOR SALE:

Zero Yes.... ZERO resistance cables for sale.

Stranded Niobium wires in liquid helium.  Maximum current 20A before
Meissner effect kicks in,  and makes the resistance non-zero.

Two feet of cable per speaker.  Cost $10,000,000.00.  I'll throw in a
lifetime support agreement for free.

-- 
Bapcha - A very bad boy from Cypress Semiconductor
3901 N.  First Strasse
San Jose,  CA 95134, 408-943-2719
From: "herb chong" <herb.chong@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: very expensive cables
Date: 28 Sep 92 08:37:18 EST
Reply-To: "herb chong" <herb.chong@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

BM>It seems that whenever certain tweaks are discussed, the true believer
BM>will always accuse the skeptics of not having listened to the tweak in
BM>question.  Sometimes it's true, but not always - and I certainly get a
BM>kick out of someone who simply CAN'T BELIEVE that one who does not sha
BM>the "believer's" biases DOESN'T hear the "staggering" and "obvious"
BM>improvement in sound.  Could there, just *maybe*, be another explanati
BM>for this besides "all you skeptics must have tin ears!"

about ten years ago, when i was was pretty active in this newsgroup, we 
discussed this issue innumerable times. JJ, ARK, and D. Pierce would jump 
in too, and so would i, on the side of the engineers. i used to say to the 
true beleivers something that they never would want to hear, and that was 
how you felt when you sat down to listen had a much larger effect on 
whether you liked what you heard than any possible effect from a halfway 
engineeringly sound cable. it is a myth that golden eared audiophiles are 
able to be a stable reference. ten years and the same articles in 
magazines are quoted as proof. the more things change, the more things 
stay the same.

Herb...

Herb.Chong@Channel1.com

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From: stratton@lynx (Ninja Programmer)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Sub-Woofers
Keywords: speakers
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:22:29 GMT
Organization: PET Engineering - GE Med. Systems, Milwaukee, WI, USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


I would like to get some information from the net about
subwoofers. I am currently looking at two manufactors

1) M&k - they make a couple of models I liked.

2) Jamo - they make one powered model.

Any comments. Does anyone have any info on the above?
Are there any other models that people would suggest?
Side notes... The unit must be powered, and it should cost (me) about
$750.00.


PS :  what do people think of jamo??? I had not heard of these
      guys until this weekend. Any news on their equipment.
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Golden Ears?
Date: 6 Oct 1992 22:30:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, daw@cray.com (Dave Wright) says:

>
>With all this discussion of the audible difference of speaker cables and
>no measurable difference, I was curious as to peoples opinions on the
>audible effects of measurable differences. Kill this if you want but:
>
>Can you hear the changes in temperature or humidity in you listening room?

Yes, usually when it drops to about 10 C, my teeth start chattering, and
around 110, 80% humidity, I feel faint, and everything sounds strange.

	( seriously, in Florida, I can hear differences of more than 10%
humidities. However, this is most likely not because the system is
changing, but my body is )

>
>Can you hear the difference with the door open or closed?

	Of course! When I'm outside the room...

	( seriously, with out my homebrew "room tune", there is a horrible
standing wave/harsh reflection when my bedroom door is closed at a certain 
frequency. Opening the door ( or using my "room tune" ) greatly alleviates
this problem.


>
>Can you hear thermal gradiants dispersing the sound in the room?

	I donno, can you hum a few bars?
-- 

	" It's time for Congress to tell the president to shove his 
	veto pen up his deficit! "  
					- Rep. Jim Traficant.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: patter@dasher.uucp (24224-guthrie)
Subject: Re: What do you suggest?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 15:38:23 GMT

In article <718230895.6467.0@romulus.mercury.andrew.cmu.edu> kz08+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ken Zuroski) writes:

>Where do I look for a semi-decent turntable that can also handle 78's? I 
>obviously don't know much about this, so any advice you can give is much
>appreciated.

I'm also interested in picking up a good 78 rpm turntable, so will you send me
a copy of any mail you send Ken. Pretty please?

I'm in a slightly different position than Ken is. Since I already have a good
turntable, I'm willing to buy a second one that only plays 78s.

patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com
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From: myers@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Myers)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:50:12 GMT
Subject: Re: *** SPEAKER WIRES ***
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.audio

> I had always assumed that the reason for twisting was to compensate
> for the directional nature of the interfering field, ie if one conductor
> is closer than the other to the source, the coupling will not be balanced
> and can't be removed by CMR. Twisting makes it fairly unlikely one conductor
> will be consistently in a stronger field than the other, so the coupling
> will be into the common mode.

That might be one way to look at it; I prefer to view the "twist" a doing
the same sort of thing that coaxial construction would do - putting both the
"forward" and "return" currents in the same average physical path, making for 
essentially zero open loop area.  I think that we're both saying basically the 
same thing, though. 



Bob Myers  KC0EW   Hewlett-Packard Co.      |Opinions expressed here are not
                   User Interface Tech. Div.|those of my employer or any other
myers@fc.hp.com    Fort Collins, Colorado   |sentient life-form on this planet.
From: lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca (George Lindholm)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Audio interference with Sony D211 diskman(?)
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:37:25 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

I bought Sony's D211 diskman a couple of weeks and until recently was
satisfied with it. Last week while walking through the woods I heard a sort
of spinning noise through my headphones and I was wondering if anyone else has
noticed this. As far as I can tell, the noise only happens while there is music
playing, during the intertrack gap it goes away. It appears to be independent
of the volume control (but very low) so I was wondering the motor was
modulating the signal going to the headphones after the amplifier? Now that
I know that it is there, I find it very irritating. Does the D311 have the same
problem? Thanks

   George

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6356 Agricultural Road, Vancouver, B.C., Canada  internet: lindholm@ucs.ubc.ca
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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: hlj@hal.nta.no (Harald Ljoen FBA)
Subject: Re: ReVox A-77 Question
Reply-To: hlj@hal.nta.no
Organization: Norwegian Telecom Research
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 09:44:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.202257.6850@tamsun.tamu.edu>, covingc@ee.tamu.edu (Mouse) writes:
>I recently obtained a ReVox A-77 reel-to-reel, and I would be interested
>in getting some a operation or service manual for it.  Does anyone out
>there have on of these, or an address or phone number for ReVox?

I'll let you have the service manual for free if you buy my ReVox A77.. :-)

-- 
** The above was the private opinions of Harald Ljo"en (harald.ljoeen@nta.no) **
From: rogoff@Teradyne.COM (David Rogoff)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: looking for technics/panasonic CD AC adapter
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:11:32 GMT

Hi,

I'm looking for the AC adapter that was used on all the 
Technics/Panasonic portable CD players.  It's the weird
+-6volt with the 3pin sideways plug. 

I'm sure that there are many of these collecting dust
after their related players died.

Let me know how much you want!

  David


-- 
  David Rogoff,  Teradyne Semiconductor Test Division 
     rogoff@teradyne.com
      818-991-2900 x4627
From: smv3@po.CWRU.Edu (Sean M. Vadas)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Pinaccle?
Date: 2 Oct 1992 15:12:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: smv3@po.CWRU.Edu (Sean M. Vadas)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I was just wondering if anyone has an opinion about Pinnacle
speakers.  I heard them in a store and was really amazed at
the amount of music that was coming out of such a tiny speaker.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 28 Sep 1992 16:02:39 CDT
From: Noel B. Lorenzana <U38134@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: 10" Cerwin Vega subs for sale (1yr old, rarely used)

Asking $130 or best. Model # XL10s, single voice coil. E-mail for more info.
Noel.
From: kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom)
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:01:57 GMT
Subject: Re: THE FINAL WORD ON POWER W
Organization: Shredding the water of SF Bay, HP-OCD
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car

> I just can't see why someone with a $1500+ system wouldn't. 
>
> TRAVIS  
>----------
Some of us don't compete so we don't care that some hidden wire looks
pretty.  We also know enough about electronics and high-end home audio
to call a spade a spade and we call fancy wire for delivering power a
RIP-OFF.  The benefits of O2 Free Cu wire for home audio aren't 100% agreed
upon in high-end home audio for speaker wire.  Now we read that the same
marketing hype is used for power distribution wire in car audio.  All I can
do is chuckle and wish I thought of it!  (It is nice to get rich by making
people happy rather than doing alot of work)

I don't usually enter into this argument in rec.audio since I like Monster
Cable for home and auto use for speaker connections, but I'd rather buy
a few more CDs than spend the same funds on cables that can be boiled in
oil while delivering amps to my amp.

Some people in rec.audio think that they can tweak the sound of their
system by tying knots in the wires going to their speakers.  I'm waiting for
this topic in this group, but it will probably distort into tying knots in
the power cables since "we're" more interested in delivering power than
getting good sound.  1/2 8-)

Kirk out
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