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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Stuff
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:57:15 GMT
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In article <BvvErA.CpM@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>	They may be admitting it could happen -- but it doesn't express the
>	extent they're worrying about it.  Sure I could admit that tomorrow
>	I could wake up tomorrow w/ a shotgun pointed at my face, but there's
>	no point in worrying about it because I know the odds of that
>	happening are slim.  Same goes for this situation.

No thats an apples and oranges comparison. There is nothing you could
reasonably do to prevent the shotgun, there is something that could
reasonably done in the other case.

>
>	Your point here is exactly what I'm trying to say.  The NBA is
>	just trying to protect themselves.  It's not like they're all so
>	worried about it.  If they were really deadly worried that Magic
>	would give AIDS to someone, they wouldn't have let him play again.

I have read that several times now. Is there really anthing in the rules
allowing Stern to prevent Magic from playing? He has not violated the 
leagues drug policy, which is the only way players are banned from the
league. There is not a rule allowing him to ban Magic. Magic may have
gotten his blessing, but legally he did not need it.

>	this world is coming to.  As if Magic had enough problems (going
>	to die a slow death), people call him selfish, egotistic, a money
>	grubber, and stupid.  I'd like to see some of U guys in his shoes.

Selfish = concerned excessively or exclusively with oneself.

Now what about this are you denying? Magic is taking no risk according
to experts, the only people taking any risk no matter how slight it
might be are the other NBA players. By definition that is selfish.

I have not called him a money grubber or stupid and I do not intend to
either.




Russ Smith
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: first round failures
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:07:51 GMT

jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>	Which brings up a trivia question:  Who was the last 1st round pick
>	to not stick on the opening day roster?  

Ronnie Murphy?

(Portland, 1987, #17, just ahead of RotY Mark Jackson)


--Gidi

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From: 10616330@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (STUART ROBERTS)
Subject: Magic
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:15:03 GMT

Can anyone really be worth $14.5 million for one season, assuming he makes 
it through the season. I am a Magic fan but i think this is a little too 
much, even for one of the greatest basketballers ever.

Big Stu.
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From: exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (|J| Exby)
Subject: Re: KBattle  was: Celtics training
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:16:54 GMT

jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:

>rjs@citi.umich.edu (Robert J. Skrobola) writes:

>>Extreme nit-pick...Battle was drafted by the Pistons..Traded on or soon
>>after draft day for....eeee...ahhh...I don't remember who.. :)

>	You're right.  Battle was originally drafted by the Pistons,
>	but was traded on draft day for the rights to Anthony Cook, who
>	the Suns had drafted earlier in the same draft.  Battle's first
>	NBA games were as a Phoenix Sun.
>	Jazzy J

alas I think KBattles most productive games were as a Nugget
here in Denver.  absolute bliss seeing him and Doc Liberty together
again in the nba awhile ago.  Battle played in-your-face-defense
his first game, at McNichols vs. utah, confused the jazz and winded
up making a steal in the last 15secs of the game, then SLAMDUNK to
ice the game for a win!  I went nutso - in fact it had little shade of
the illini / ga tech game in champaign.. 1985 season.
 I was even close enuf to the court to get high-Fives from KB
that night, he had a good laugh over my "Flyin Illini" tshirt!

::j

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From: richards@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jonathan Richards)
Subject: Magic's stats
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:34:41 GMT


Does anyone have Magic Johnson's stats from his last season?  If so, could 
you please email me at the address below?  Thanks in advance.
--
Jonathan Richards
little-jon@nwu.edu

"I guess test-flying F-20 Tigersharks at Mach 3 all
day has rattled my good manners..."
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From: marklew@microsoft.com (Mark Lewin)
Subject: Re: So...
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:46:18 GMT
Organization: Microsoft
Distribution: na

In article <1992Oct15.195432.9824@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:

>With all that trivia spreading around, I have one: what player has never
>attempted a three pointer in the most seasons played?  Actually, I don't
>know if he threw one up last season (I should look), but after that many
>years, I kinda doubt he would change.

The Chief?

Mark
From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Trent Tucker signs w/ BULLS
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:22:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>>Good D and great outside shooting, but he's not that good?  What else
>>do you want from your 2 guard :).  The problem is that he won't be able
>>to play next to Paxon - who the hell would handle the ball?  I do see
>>him spending seom time next to Jordan, though.
>
>Haha...so why did he get released by the Suns?  It wasn't much of a loss
>to them.

Actually, Tucker gave the Suns little choice.  Immediately after the
trade, he told the press he had no desire to play for Phoenix.  He
didn't show up for camp, or report for a physical ordered by the
team.

I'm not certain he would have made the roster anyway, but he really
left Phoenix no choice.  (It's a little known fact that Phoenix
actually wasn't that gung-ho on him in the first place; he was only
including in the deal to satisfy salary-cap regulations.  New York
was actually going to pay his salary, until he was picked up by SA.)

All things considered, it's probably a good thing for Phoenix; if he
had made the team, he would probably have bumped Cedric Ceballos or
Tim Perry, both of whom were on the bubble going into the season.
Both of them were in the starting lineup by the end of the season,
and really looking like up-and-coming stars.  Last year was a
*strange* year for Phoenix.

Tony
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 07:13:04 EDT
From: <KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Bedford released!

  Well, so much for Pervis playing forward, the Bullets released William
Bedford last night as he only attended one out of four practices.  The Bullets
will use half of Bedford's salary to sign McLean.  Bedford's $925,000 salary
is not guarenteed.  What a waste of size and talent!   The bullets have also
officially asked the NBA for an exemption for half of Bernard's salary also.
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From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: Re: Don McLean
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:11:17 GMT

In article <BvuvwF.Lxo@ora.com> ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler) writes:

>But who do they have in their backcourt besides Jackson
>and Randy Woods?  I know they've been thinking about picking up John
>Bagley.

     The Clippers also have Ron Harper, who is probably their best
backcourt player.  When he's on, he's sort of a poor man's version
of Clyde Drexler.  When he's off, he bricks 3-pointers, 2-pointers,
and everything else he throws up.  
    After Larry Brown took over, Ron Harper was ON.
    Gary Grant will probably back up Mark Jackson at PG.  Unless the
Clippers have decided to give up on Grant.  Bagley would be strictly
a desperation move.
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Stuff
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:17:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bvtpxq.279
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>Just to further clarify...1-2 ml of blood transfused.  If you get cut, air
>kills HIV+.  For all of you people who keep saying that it will be easy to
>catch the virus from Magic, think again.  What are the main ways of catching
>HIV+?  IV drug use, totally away from air.  Sex, again a type of contact
>that is totally away from air.  Ok, maybe there are incidents that do happen
>that aren't among these major causes, but whatever they are, they haven't
>been really found.  There are a lot of people who are HIV+ out there, and
>plenty of them don't even know it.  You aren't going to get the AIDS virus
>without doing one of the above with an infected individual...or get into
>some kind of accident with them where you bathe in each other's blood...

	The above is a good arguement.  I think that what everyone has to
	realize is that if Magic was really considered a danger, he wouldn't
	have been let back into the league.  When he decided to come back,
	David Stern, et al, welcomed him back with open arms.  If someone
	decides that they don't want to play against him -- fine, they can
	sit out.  But I think that in most if not all cases, the other
	players are going to play against Magic.  Who are U to judge Magic's
	life?  He made the decision to come back, and there's not one thing
	U can do about it, is there!  The fact of the matter is that Magic
	is coming back to play, HIV+ and all.  Whether or not he's a danger,
	or whether or not he hurts the game of basketball -- we don't know.
	And -- there's nothing anybody on this net can do about it.  
	Satisfied?  Now let's talk something meaningful like hoops...

	Jazzy J
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From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: So... (re: trivia)
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:20:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, San Diego

mtobler@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.195432.9824@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei) writes:
>> what player has never
>> attempted a three pointer in the most seasons played?
>
>  My guess would be Mark Eaton but, I know for a fact that he attempted
>and to the surprise of many made a three pointer last year (I think
>it was against the Clips).  It was so unexpected that the showed it on
>the local news just about as often as the showed the dunk that
>Jordan missed against the Lakers.

I remember that game, and that shot was the one that broke the
Clippers' back, but you are slightly misremembering it.

In a tight game, late in the fourth, the Clippers were playing some
sensational D.  Stockton, in desperation, passed to Eaton, who was
about 22.5 feet from the basket with 1 on the 24, and Eaton shot--
and made.  It was a two pointer, but just barely.  His heel was
actually on the line.  The commentators (Fratello and Lawler)
mentioned that he had never made a three, so that that shot was
probably the longest of his career.  They did not mention whether he
had ever attempted a three.

However, I would have to think that, after all these years in the
league, at his size, he would, at some point, grab a defensive
rebound with 1 second on the game clock.  Not to shoot in that
situation is unconscionable.

Tony
From: raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani)
Subject: Re: First Round Picks?
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:13:15 GMT

In article <Bw5rxD.6D4@agora.rain.com>, robart@agora.rain.com (Robert Barton) writes:
|> In article <1bfcutINN6ep@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
|> >
|> >It seems that some significant talents have yet to sign contracts.  Many
|> >said Laettner was brains VS Shaquille's pure talent in College, but Shaq at
|> >least had the sense to get signed and get into camp on time.  What's going
|> >to happen with these guys?  Will Mourning and Laettner be traded?  Maybe the
|> >NBA should resort to third party salary arbitrators to settle these problems?
|> 
|> 
|>   Laettner has just signed with Minnesota for 6 years.  Laettner will
|> be getting $3.5 M a year, more than 50% higher than what #2 Mourning
|> is asking for.
|> 
|> -- 
|>   the relevant guy


Oh Oh ... I think that Mourning and his agent are going to raise their demands.

Raghu
From: halpin@sw.stratus.com (Jim Halpin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Stuff
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:31:17 GMT
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Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.



In article <Bvv7wI.910@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
> 
> 	Well, if the NBA were seriously worried, they wouldn't have let him
> 	play at all.  If there really was a risk, Magic would not be allowed
> 	to come back.

	What's makes you think the NBA would have the legal right to ban a HIV+
player from playing???

-- 
!	Jim  Halpin
!	halpin@turkey.sw.stratus.com
!	Marlboro, MA
From: hira@cme.nist.gov (Ron Hira)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Celtics training camp
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:19:21 GMT
Reply-To: hira@cme.nist.gov
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

In article <SHAW.92Oct9110443@au-bon-pain.lcs.mit.edu>, shaw@au-bon-pain.lcs.mit.edu (Andy Shaw) writes:
|> 
|> In article <Bvr8Gt.CCJ@ora.com> ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler) writes:
|>    KENNY BATTLE - Now this is a kid I like.  He was one of the 10-day
|>    contract boys Boston signed periodically last season to beef up their
|>    Bird and Brownless lineup.  Battle had great hustle and attitude, could
|>    take it to the hoop, and played tight D.  I'm not sure where he fits
|>    though, as he's not big enough for PF, and SF is chock full o'Xman,
|>    Fox, and Gamble (unless Fox goes for Gugliotta.)
|>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Is there any reason to think that the Celts or anyone else has a shot at
|> getting Gugliotta?  Are his rights being shopped around?  Has Washington
|> signed him yet?  I vaguely remember that he was going to Europe, but that
|> it fell through ...

Gugs has yet to be signed, but there has been *no* talk about dealing him.
He did have a couple of lucrative offers from European teams, but 
decided that he wanted to play in the NBA. Fox for Gugliotta is almost
as ludicrous as Gamble for Gugs. Again, why the hell would the Bullets
do this? Especially with a team in your own division. Stupid, no?

The Bullets are having a problem with the cap, but should be making decisions
quite soon.

Ron
From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: trading Hakeem
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:24:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.152.10.9

In article 19327@cheshire.oxy.edu, creasman@cheshire.oxy.edu (Scott Michael Creasman) writes:
> In article <1992Oct13.232043.155235@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ism1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (IAN SETH MILLER) writes:
> >>
> >I believe the latest trade rumor was Olajuwon for A.C. Green, Elden Campbell
> >and Byron Scott.  The problem was the salary cap and the Lakers couldn't fit
> >him in. 
> 
> I heard the Bullets were trying to put together a 
> deal involving William Bedford, Bo Kimble, and
> Kevin Gamble

Hell,  The Bulls will give the rockets Paxson,  Cartwright & Perdue.  
We can also through in Levingston & Hansen (& any other waived player 
they want).

:-)


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From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Kenny Battle, and Arizona Wildcats in the NBA
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:18:30 GMT
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In article <1bi7gmINN4h@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu>, rjs@citi.umich.edu (Robert J. Skrobola) writes:
> In article <BvvF9z.D46@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
> |> wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung) writes:
> |> >I went to U of I, I know who Kenny Battle is, I was just verifying.
> |> 	OK -- sorry if I insulted your intelligence.  Anyways, Kenny did
> |> 	start out w/ the Suns, but since then, he's been w/ the Warriors,
> |> 	Celtics, put your team name here.  He's been the ultimate journeyman.
> |> 	He lacks height and a sure outside shot, but he's got that hustle
> |> 	and desire all coaches love.  He always seems to latch on somewhere.
> Extreme nit-pick...Battle was drafted by the Pistons..Traded on or soon
> after draft day for....eeee...ahhh...I don't remember who.. :)

Anthony Cook.  As I remember, the Pistons drafted Battle, the Suns drafted
Cook, and then they engineered a draft-day swap.

It was one of those forgettable trades, I'll grant you that. :-)

(Does the U of Arizona still have 6 alumni in the NBA?  Buechler,
Cook, Elliott, Kerr, Tolbert, B. Williams?  How about Sean Rooks and
Matt Othick?  What are their chances?)
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Quest for the threepeat...
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:42:49 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.152.10.9

Starts tonight.

Actually,  preseason starts to night for the Chicago Bulls who host 
the maybe-improved Seattle Supersonics in the Stadium.  MVP Michael
Jordan is expected to play.

Yesterday was MJ's first practice,  since he has been playing bball for 
11 monthes straight (as have some of the other Dream Team members), 
Jordan & Pippen were given some extra time to heal up.  

Coach Phil Jackson expects to give Stacy King and BJ Armstrong the 
chance to take the starting positions away from Cartwright & Paxson
respectively.  Whether they will be up to the task is another story.

The addition of new teammates,  likely McCray,  Corey Williams, and
Trent Turcker will take some time,  expect to see them play a lot.  

In Eurpoean news,  Bulls pick & silver medalist Toni Kukoc reportedly 
wants to sign with the Bulls & buy out of his Italian contract.  Since
I think the Bulls have 1-1.5 Mil still under the cap that they can play,
however,  they would likely need to trade a current player.


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From: am402@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alex Canada)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Cavs get Gerald Wilkens?
Date: 8 Oct 1992 23:39:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: am402@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alex Canada)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu



Hey hey,

  I just heard the Cavs obtained Wilkens? is this true? anybody
have any details?

Alex

Cavs in '93!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Celtics training camp
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:22:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvvF9z.D46
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung) writes:

>I went to U of I, I know who Kenny Battle is, I was just verifying. I thought he was with the Suns.

	OK -- sorry if I insulted your intelligence.  Anyways, Kenny did
	start out w/ the Suns, but since then, he's been w/ the Warriors,
	Celtics, put your team name here.  He's been the ultimate journeyman.
	He lacks height and a sure outside shot, but he's got that hustle
	and desire all coaches love.  He always seems to latch on somewhere.

>OOps, I meant Barry, why did they draft Barry.

	That's a question MANY have been asking for a long while.

	Jazzy J

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From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: NBA.C: Anyone have an MS-DOS copy?
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:07:35 GMT
Distribution: na,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

Does anyone have the most recent version of NBA.C compiled under
MS-DOS?  I don't have a C compiler, and only need the binary.
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
From: iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Lakers to Go all the way.
Keywords: Lakers to go all the way.
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:56:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Oct10.015617.908
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

I can only say, Western Conference fans, don't waste your time watching any 
NBA games if you're not a Lakers fan because you'll only be disappointed.
While all of the focus is on the over-hyped Phoenix Suns, look for the Lakers
to quietly take the division with a possible 70 wins.  

The Lakers are 13 deep! (wait a minute, that's one too many).
You know a team has to be good, if the guy getting cut held Jordan to 21 points
in the NBA finals in 91 (i.e. Tony Smith) 

Watch out for rookie sensation Duane Cooper (#2 pick).  The Lakers really like
this guy and he can surprise a lot of folks whose attention is on Anthony P.
The addition of Sean Higgins can't hurt.

The Lakers second unit this year is almost the same team that made the playoffs
last year.
Starters this year:
Magic (DNP last year)
Worthy (injured 30+ games last year)
Divac (injure
February)
Perkins (gone half the year)
Scott
Second team will have: Threatt (unless he starts), Green, Elden Campbell,
Terry Teagle, and Anthony Peeler.
And then some:James (fadeaway jumper) Edwards, Duane Cooper, and either
Higgins or Smith may steal one of the above spots.
You just don't get any deeper than that!

So here it is, Lakers will go 70-12, sweep (figuratively) thru the playoffs
and take the title in 6 games max. 
TAKE THAT BULLS BANDWAGON FANS!!!

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