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From: peterk@public.sub.org (Peter Kittel)
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Organization: Public News & Mailserver, Commodore Germany PM UNIX, Frankfurt
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 15:23:00 GMT


Here's some journalist "expert's" output (not really advertising):
When Commodore launched its first AT compatible (must have been 1986) in
Germany, we had a visit from some journalist from a well-reputated german
computer magazine to test the beast. (It was a quite ordinary 10 MHz clone.)
In the article he wrote he was amazed on how fast the machine was and also
gave an explanation: Yes, the engineers of Commodore were so clever to
put all the parts extremely tight together (not true, it was a *big*
motherboard), so that the connections could be made so short that it was
much faster... Shudder, "faster than the master clock", it sounded.

We were very astonished, when we read that, *we* didn't tell him such
crap :-).

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From: craiga@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Craig R Albrechtson)
Subject: Re: Sanity
Organization: Rekall Incorporated 
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:59:57 GMT

In article <cc2x-220792174521@128.253.102.12> cc2x@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Jeff Luszcz) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.194315.26940@PA.dec.com>,
>mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> In article <1992Jul21.175314.14659@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, 
>>   st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER) writes...
>> 
>> >I have heard of how a couple of Psych Grad students decided to see how long
>> >it would take a mental hospital to determine that they were not insane, once
>> >they were committed. To this end, they fake the symptoms of schizophrenia (sp)
>> >and are commited. Once in, they act perfectly normal. The institution does
>> >not deem them sane. They finally get out 6 monthes later, after several
>> >friends come forward to tell the hospital that it was an experiment.
>> 
>> >my question is, is this true?
>> 
>   We read about this in an intro psych course. Psych 101 with Prof Maa.
>  We were shown this case study. If I remember it was only for a short
>while,
>  a couple of weeks at most, but my memory may be failing me, or HEY maybe
>  I'm just insane (but how could I prove it?)
>     -Jeff

I read a article from a medical journal in a medical anthropology class
a couple of semesters back where 10 people from various backgrounds 
including two pychistrists who were sane voluntered to be placed in a   
institution.  actually the experment was to examine the conditions in 
institutions and to determine the effect on the behavior of the patients.

Well the experment started to become unravled when the two pychistrists
started treating their fellow patients and another one of the subjects 
became  interested in one of the nurses and asked her out.  

a fourth subject got board and wanted to go home and asked to leave.

The article never did say weither the nurse did except the offer though.

-- 
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* Craig Reese Albrechtson (Slider) * University of Wisconsin Milwaukee *
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From: fielden@spot.Colorado.EDU (j.a. fielden)
Subject: Re: Sanity
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:47:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.112120.26006@echo.philips.nl> dolf@echo.philips.nl (Dolf Grunbauer) writes:
>st890270@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (LUCIFER) writes:
>
>Related UL: a woman was put in a mental hospital in the USA for 30 years (or
>            so) because she behaved a little weird and only spoke using
>            strange sounding syllabuses. Turned out the woman was from abroad
>            and behaved according to which is normal to her and spoke the only
>            language she knew but was a very unknown language.
>            Nobody ever noticed that she was perfectly in order. The one which
>            released her was either from her country or has been there on
>            a holiday.
>
	It might be a UL but I did see this story told on some documentary
style program years and years ago. 

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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: "Eat the rich"
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:38:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.080225.16197@news.eng.convex.com> datri@convex.com (Anthony A. Datri) writes:
>
>Eating Raoul is a completely different movie, also starring Mary Woronov
>and the guy she's almost always with whose name escapes me.

Paul Bartel?

cjl
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:45:52 GMT

rogerl@Ingres.COM (Roger Leuthner) writes:

>In article <Brp57I.5pH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>>adm@cs.man.ac.uk (Alan Murta) writes:
>>>One of the best adverts I have seen is for the household cleaner "Astonish",
>>>shown on the home shopping channel (UK satellite). It is claimed that
>>>"Astonish cleans without chemicals".
>>*----
>>In a sense, so does sandpaper.  Maybe "Astonish" is just sand.
>>--

>In a sense (i.e. in any sense; er maybe 'with any sense'; er maybe 'sure!')

>sand is commonly known to contain chemicals - Si02 fer'nstance.
*----
That's why I said "in a sense".  EVERYthing contains chemicals.
But sandpaper doesn't clean by chemical reaction like some cleaners.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
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From: nasadk@vccsouth24.its.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski)
Subject: Re: CD Storage Density (was: Re: NetNews/CD - USENET News Available)
Keywords: liquor locker locksmith door
Reply-To: nasadk@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 16:01:33 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.204104.10521@cabezon.uucp>, larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley) writes:

|> >The CD size was chosen, according to reliable UL, to play long enough to
|> >hold a reasonable performance of Beethoven's Ninth.  

This one quoted to me, every so often by CDophiles, etc also includes the
fact that the Japanese like to listen to Beethoven's Ninth at their New Year's
celebration. I've never checked that out, but if I recall, the CD was invented 
by Phillips, a European company.

|>     A news report last night stated that Sony had developed a new laser that would
|>     enable them to make CDs with three times the storage of current disks (70 x 3 =
|>     210 minutes/3.5 hrs.)  The did not elaborate - I don't know if the laser will
|>     be used for playback or to make the masters or just what. 

My understanding of this, came about some time ago, in Popular Mechanics,
or Popular Science. The crux was that a new, very pure blue laser had been
created. In essence, the blue light, having a shorter wavelength, could read
smaller pits on the CD. The same amound of data could be conveyed in smaller
"data pits" since the laser could now "read" these smaller pits. They claimed that
it would allow up to 4 times more data to be placed on a single side of a CD.

Anyone know if the pits on a CD are arranged concentrically, or spiral out?

Nazman
<nasadk@rpi.edu>

 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: iam30974@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.I.Moscoso.)
Subject: Re: Anyone heard this one? New UL?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:27:37 GMT

kja2192@tamsun.tamu.edu (Kevin Alexander) writes:

>I'm not a religious reader of this group, but I try to read as 
>often as I can, so please no flames if this is old.  I have heard
>this same story from several people now at relatively distant
>locations.

>Here it goes.

[...man, cat, woman and headboard story skipped...]
>I though this to be funny and plausable, I guess, but I heard the
>same thing from a friend of mine who worked at a Sam's here at
>college.  This time it was a friend of his (I doubt the same guy).
>----------------------------

Something about this SL(sex.legend) tells me that it would never make the
FAQ list....

Now why is that?

Well, first of all, this would be a toughie to verify, unless you just relied
on a first-hand account..  and even that would be.. well..
	I mean..
I'm sure *many* accidents happen during that act (no, not with the cat
necessarily) :)     


Actually, I'm hard pressed (no pun!) to find any curiosity in my head with
which to lengthen the reasons...  [the legend's unfaqable]
--
-ivan
	..now if that was a gerbil. . .
From: pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: SHOCKING STORIES
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:37:09 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Jul27.211509.29749@odin.corp.sgi.com> adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Chuck Adams) writes:
>
>[...]  i don't think it's something someone
>would make up. [...]

So, how many pages is the motto section of the FAQL? Room for one
more?

 -Paul "Monty" Ashley
   (I just _know_ somebody is looking at my name and saying "How
come he always has the same dumb middle-name-quote? It don' even
make sense!")
-- 
  "Windle shook his head sadly. Five      | pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu
exclamation marks, the sure sign of an    |  [Not a UCSD employee]
insane mind."                             |
     --Terry Pratchett, _Reaper Man_      |
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: How many Grooves on an LP?
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:02:15 GMT
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Jul28.110100.1045@mwk.uucp> gleason@mwk.uucp writes:
>In article <1992Jul26.012938.9074@news.nd.edu>, wlamonac@handel.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca) writes:
>> 2 other records that also have infinite grooves are the Beatnigs' first (and
>> only) album- the last song on the second side goes on forever, and a single
>> by Duck Hunt called "Vacation" does it also.
>> 
>  Predating this stunt by over two decades is the James Gang album,
>"James Gang Rides", where, if you don't have an auto return tone arm,
>you can hear the message "Turn me over" on one side, or "Play me again"
>on the other...these are located right at the edge of the label though, 
>so only those with a manual turntable could hear 'em...I'm sure more
>than one turntable was broken by people trying to defeat auto-return
>so they could hear this....
>
>Lee "Still got my LP collection" Gleason N5ZMR
>gleason@mwk.uucp

Thanks for supplying the name of the album; my post covered all of this but
was also a plea for the album title.

cjl
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From: pr@last.pubs.stratus.com (Paul Ryan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.tasteless
Subject: Fake Rocks in Grand Canyon
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:15:57 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban

Here on the news today: some of those beautiful boulders in the Grand  
Canyon are fake, paid for by the Parks Dept.
From: jheath@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Jim Heath)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: X-rated Atari game, Napoleon
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:51:48 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University

From article <1992Jul21.005855.23830@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, by mprc@troi.cc.rochester.edu (M. Price):
>>>stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
>>>> [...]
>>>>  Seems there was an Atari
>>>>game called "Custer's Revenge" or something like that that featured an
>>>>American indian shooting arrows at a player-controlled Custer figure who
>>>>zipped around from one indian maiden tied to a pole to another and . . . um
>>>>. . . "boinked them."
> 
> 
>      Andrea Dworkin discusses the video game in her analysis of
> pornography called something like "Letters from a War Zone." She also
> (I thidescribes the rape of a Native American woman by two (?) m,en who
> insisted on playing out the game.
>

The game _did_ exists, I remember seeing it.  It was a pretty
poor excuse for a game though. 
-- 
"Land of song, said the warrior bard,           Jim Heath
Though all the world betrays thee.
One sword, at least, thy rights shall guard, (The Minstrel Boy)
One faithful harp will praise thee."         (Thomas Moore)
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.urban:20147 alt.beer:4392
From: dtasman@mccoy.NMSU.Edu (Dan Tasman)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.beer
Subject: Re: "Green Death" Beer
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:05:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Mexico State University


imj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones) writes:
>Anyway, apparently there are/were several regional beers with the nickname
>"Green Death."  Heffenreffer's, a Rhode Island beer, also went by that
>nickname.  Does anybody know any others? 
 
de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan) writes: 
>Rochester, NY.
> 
>Gennesee Cream Ale, sold in green cans, is called Green Death.
>Gennesee Beer, sold in white cans, is called White Death.

In Buffalo, we never called Genesee Cream Ale "Green Death".  We usually called  
them "Screamers", for the effect a can had on your digestive system.  With  
Canadian beers, you got the "Labatt's splats".

We called Milwaukee's Best "Spud", because there was a distinct potato taste in  
the brew.  Anyone other beers called "Spud"?

--
   Dan Tasman                                       dtasman@dante.nmsu.edu
                                                     molson@rever.nmsu.edu
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From: perry@Unify.Com (Perry Clarke)
Subject: Re: Custard/Silver Spoon Synergy
Keywords: n
Organization: Unify Corporation
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 00:07:49 GMT

pki@ipsa.reuter.com (Phil King) wrote:
>My mother-in-law was teaching me how to make custard the other day, and
>she claimed that it was essential that a rubber spoon be used.  Any one
>else ever heard of this?  Is there a pseudo-scientific explanation for
>why this should be so?
>
>/Phil
>
>WARNING:  missing .sig file

Only in so far as a metal spoon in a metal (aluminium) pan can "taste"
the custard if it scrapes the pan (and custard making is characterized by
a *lot* of stirring).  This doesn't just apply to custard.  Personally,
I always use wooden spoons for cooking.

The taste is reminiscent of "sucking pennies" (if you will pardon the
expression).

--
Perry Clarke                   perry@unify.com                 (916) 928 6287
Unify Corporation, Sacramento, CA                   I speak only for Me, Inc.
From: thad@public.BTR.COM (Thaddeus P. Floryan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: SHOCKING STORIES
Date: 29 Jul 92 08:24:22 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, Mountain View CA

In article <7549@public.BTR.COM> grady@public.BTR.COM ( ) writes:
>I thought work on large commercial transmitters and
>microwave dishes and their ilk always required
>*two* people: the person to actually work on the dish
>and the big guy hefting the wrench at the console...

Ah, yes, two people.

One to do the work, and the other to stand back and laugh his *ss off
when the first one gets zapped and thrown!  :-)

Seriously, though, many of the recently-posted anecdotes highlight the
neccessity for (at least) a second person whenever one is working on
equipment so that aid may be rendered and/or summoned.

How're you going to yell for help when your teeth fillings weld your
jaws together (can this happen? :-) or your hands grip the electrodes
even tighter as your muscles contract?

I haven't told all the stories I could have related about my own
experiences, but I've gained an appreciation for our friend the electron
over the years and lived to talk about it.

Sadly, the situation CANNOT be summarized by saying "use common sense"
because if GOOD sense was truly "common" we wouldn't be hearing/reading
so many stories of near-fatal and lethal electrocution "accidents."

Thad Floryan [ thad@btr.com (OR) {decwrl, mips, fernwood}!btr!thad ]
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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: Sanity
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:34:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.231811.23170@news.columbia.edu> lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
>I believe the woman spoke a Ukranian dialect that was so unintelligible to
>her keepers that they doubted her sanity.
>
>Further, I believe there was some movie that used the same gimmick; the
>movie has it as a man, but an attendant working for the hospital just happens
>to recognize it from hearing it as a small boy spoken in his family and thus
>sparks the realization that the guy's just "foreign" to them, not mentally
>impaired.

As long as we're mentioning movies, there's a movie listed in one of
Danny Peary's _Cult Movies_ books called (I think I've remembered this
correctly) _Shock Corridor_, dealing with a reporter who gets himself
committed so he can do an investigative piece on mental hospitals.  Came
out around 1970 or so I think.

>ps: which Marx brothers' routine is about the Party of the First Part,
>Party of the Second Part, etc., that ends with "there ain't no Sanity
>Clause" ?

Dunno if the routine's got any formal title but I'm pretty sure it's from
_A Night at the Opera_.

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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: krp@koko.csustan.edu (Ken Pergrem)
Subject: Re: Radium Watches
Organization: CSU Stanislaus
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 21:18:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul10.035840.22705@serveme.chi.il.us> joeg@gagme (joe grosch) writes:
>lc1r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lori Cole) writes:
>: Yes!  Indeed, a fascinating documentary was made on this very subject a
>: few years ago about a town in central Illinois (can't remember the name)
>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^     
>: that was the center of this activity after the Radium Dial Corporation
>: was basically driven out of New York because the number of laborers
>: (predominantly young women) who were coming down with horrible cancers
>: because of licking the paint brushes -- to make that fine point --
>: before painting the numbers on.
>: 
>: The movie is called "Radium City" and is a must-see, although you'll
>: want to throw things at the screen, you'll be so angry at 1) the
>: company, 2) the U.S. government, and 3) local bureaucrats.
>: 
>: Lori Cole
>
>Yes, I saw this documentary on our PBS station back in Minneapolis. The 
>name of the town is Ottawa, IL. It's about 90 to 125 miles (I guess) 
>West of Chicago along Interstate 80. My Ex is from Aurora, IL. One of
>her relations used to work there, at Radium Dial.

My great-grandparent's family was from Ottawa, IL and two of my grandmother's
sisters worked at Radium Dial Co.  Apparently the company found out or was
forced to realize that their treatment of the workers was Naughty, and so
my aunts were given free medical checkups in order to monitor the development
of any possible cancer(s) caused by their work.  They never got sick from
that, though; however they should have gotten lung cancer because they both
smoked like f*cking chimneys.

--Ken

-- 
Kenneth R. Pergrem
krp@altair.csustan.edu  ..!uunet!altair.csustan.edu!krp    AOL: K Pergrem
Calif. State University, Stanislaus (Turlock, CA)
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From: cel@nsscmail.att.com (clayton EDward LEIHY iii)
Subject: Re: Chelsea Clinton Fan Club
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Summary: Where Do I Join?
Organization: NCR Systems Support Center - New Jersey
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:01:16 GMT

Sorry if I missed it, but has someone poseted the Fan Club address?
If so, could you e-mail it to me?  If not, would you please post it
so all of her (potential) fans can become Charter Members (if it's
Not Too Late?)?

Thanking you in advance, I am
From: ghartzog@terapin.com (Garrett Hartzog)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: NetNews/CD - USENET News Available
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:19:51 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <Brq3EG.41A@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>, phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil
Gustafson) writes:
>[Please note drastic reduction in followups.]
>
>In article <1992Jul16.215834.7404@Warren.MENTORG.COM> tal@Warren.MENTORG.COM
(To
>m Limoncelli) writes:
>>In <fcpH02fO19kR01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> tjc50@ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
wr
>ites:
>>
>>>Actually, that's not an issue.  CD-ROMs have a greater capacity if you
>>>run a green felt-tip marker around their rims.
>>
>>Actually, you can just flip them over and record on the other side.
>>
>
>There is no physical reason that CD's and CD-ROMs cannot have data on
>both sides, and no reason that two-sided readers could not be made.
>
>The printed matter on the wrong side is of little import: you can't
>see it when the disc is in the drive.  One-sidedness is a cynical
>marketing ploy.
>
>Phil
>
>-- 
>|play: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG; {ames|pyramid|vsi1}!zorch!phil                |
>|work: phil@gsi; sgi!gsi!phil            | Phil Gustafson                   |
>| "Don't believe in ads.  Don't believe in government.  Watch yourself --   |
>|  everybody is trying to screw you!"  Bill Gaines, 1922-1992               |
but it's a great way for record companies to force us to pay twice as much for
a 2, one-sided, cd set!

Garrett Hartzog
ghartzog@terapin.com