HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: elsn4000@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Frank Elsner)
Subject: ELM vs IRIX 3.2.1
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 11:43:20 GMT

Having installed ELM on a machine running IRIX 3.2.1 and YP with YP usage 
for ELM enabled, the relevant question during "sh Configure" was EXPLICITLY 
answered with "y", ELM comes up with the message
 
            "You have no password entry!"
 
The same holds for IRIX 4.x.

Any pointers for installation under IRIX running YP are welcome !

Frank Elsner (TUBerlin PostMonster)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: elsn4000@mailszrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Frank Elsner)
Subject: Re: Latest ELM Version/PL ??
Keywords: Version
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:01:49 GMT

In article <1142@tuvie.UUCP> zacherl@tuvie.UUCP (WANG Oesterreich GmbH) writes:
>I'm running Rel.2,.3/PL11 on SCO ODT 1.1

The current version is 
                        ELM 2.3 PL 11
 
You have the latest, be happy :-)
 
Frank Elsner (TUBerlin/ZRZ Postmaster and happy elm user)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: tkoppel@diana.cair.du.edu (The Great and Powerful)
Subject: Filter - two things at once?
Organization: CARL Systems Inc, Denver, Colo.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 00:43:14 GMT


I would like to have Filter do two things at once; first I would like
to execute a cmmand and then to save the message.  The command would
be something like 
  if subject contains "help" then execute "elm %r < cannedmessage"

   but then also save it into a folder called 'needshelp'
   sort of like:

  if subject contains 'help' then save "usr/users/tkoppel/needshelp%h"

I can get the canned message sent back to the snder without any
problem - but the incoming message isn't saved in needshelp (or for
that matter, in my default incoming mailbox.

Help!

Thanks
   
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From: schaefer@ogicse.ogi.edu (Barton E. Schaefer)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Re: Where is a good place to get the source to MUSH ?
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:05:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36197
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

In article <1992Apr12.223807.12977@chpc.utexas.edu> apas611@chpc.utexas.edu (David Boles) writes:
} Can't seem to locate the package in any of the places I'm
} used to looking.  Where is a good US site?

It should be in any comp.sources.misc archive.  It is also "at home" on
cse.ogi.edu in pub/mush.
-- 
Bart Schaefer                                           schaefer@z-code.com
Z-Code Software Corporation                             schaefer@cse.ogi.edu
From: petolino@joe.Eng.Sun.COM (Joe Petolino)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: filtering out duplicate messages
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:18:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: joe

I want to filter out all of the duplicate messages from my mailbox.  That is,
if two or more messages have the same Message-Id, I want to delete all but
one of them.  How can I do this?

One approach might be to use the pipe command to send all of the mail text
to a unix script that searches for duplicates.  Is there a way for this script
to communicate the list of duplicates back to a mush pipeline?  E.g.,
something like this:

    pick * | pipe myfilter | delete

I couldn't find anything in the man pages about getting a message list
*out* of the pipe command.

Thanks.

-Joe
From: msirota@ee.rochester.edu (Mark Sirota)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Re: Mush on apollos
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:09:24 GMT
Reply-To: Mark Sirota <msirota@socrates.ee.rochester.edu>
Organization: University of Rochester Department of Electrical Engineering

In article <1992Apr11.052612.21528@cc.umontreal.ca> coted@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Cote Daniel) writes:
>1-> If I receive new mail while I am in mush, even if I read and
>    delete it, when I quit I will see the "You have new mail"
>    message anyway.

This is the fault of the csh (assuming that's the shell you use).  The csh
is pretty dumb about how it decides when you have new mail.  Since the
mailbox has been updated since the last time it issued a prompt, it tells
you that you have new mail.  You can always "unset mail" and/or ignore the
problem...
-- 
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University of Rochester, Rochester NY
 Internet: msirota@ee.rochester.edu
 UUCP:     rutgers!rochester!ur-valhalla!msirota
From: schaefer@cse.ogi.EDU (Barton E. Schaefer)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Patch server
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:42:01 GMT
Organization: Z-Code Software Corp.

Apparently I screwed up the patch server again trying to get all my mail
forwarded from ogicse to z-code.  As nearly as I can tell it is now
working once again.  I now have a local call to the internet so I'll be
able to keep track of things here a bit more consistently.  Sorry about
the problems.

-- 
Bart Schaefer                                           schaefer@z-code.com
Z-Code Software Corporation                             schaefer@cse.ogi.edu
From: schaefer@ogicse.ogi.edu (Barton E. Schaefer)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Re: MIME Patches...(?)
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:53:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36195
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

In article <HOGAN.92Apr8094315@cujo.csl.sri.com> hogan@csl.sri.com (Emmett Hogan) writes:
} Has anybody come up with the patches for MUSH to allow it to produce
} and read MIME formatted messages properly?

Produce, no.  Patch 5 will include support for using the metamail program
to read MIME messages.
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Bart Schaefer                                           schaefer@z-code.com
Z-Code Software Corporation                             schaefer@cse.ogi.edu
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: apas611@chpc.utexas.edu (David Boles)
Subject: Where is a good place to get the source to MUSH ?
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 22:38:07 GMT

Can't seem to locate the package in any of the places I'm
used to looking.  Where is a good US site?

Thanks,

	David Boles

Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: hogan@csl.sri.com (Emmett Hogan)
Subject: MIME Patches...(?)
Organization: Computer Science Lab, SRI International, Menlo Park, CA.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:43:15 GMT


Hi All,

I know this has been asked before, but my news server went down and I
never saw an answer...

Has anybody come up with the patches for MUSH to allow it to produce
and read MIME formatted messages properly?

Thanks,
Emmett


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From: coted@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Cote Daniel)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Mush on apollos
Date: 11 Apr 92 05:26:12 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

I compiled mush 7.2.3 on an apollo running bsd 4.3.

I encountered two problems:

1-> If I receive new mail while I am in mush, even if I read and
    delete it, when I quit I will see the "You have new mail"
    message anyway.

2-> The From: line of the messages I send will contain the name of
    the machine I sent the message from.  Suppose I send a message
    to "Mimi" a user in the same domain as me, from a machine named
    spt2. Then the from line will be:

    From: coted@spt2

    If Mimi replys to that mail, it will bounce since my adress isn't
    coted@spt2, but rather coted@jsp, where jsp is the domain name...

Is there any solutions ?
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From: schaefer@ogicse.ogi.edu (Barton E. Schaefer)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: Re: Mush on apollos
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:03:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36196
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

In article <1992Apr11.052612.21528@cc.umontreal.ca> coted@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Cote Daniel) writes:
} I compiled mush 7.2.3 on an apollo running bsd 4.3.

You should start by getting patch 4, which includes additional files and
patches specifically for the apollo.

} 2-> The From: line of the messages I send will contain the name of
}     the machine I sent the message from.

This is a generic problem resulting from mush's use of the first host
alias returned by gethostbyname() [the first word of the $hostname
variable] when constructing addresses.  Frequently that is the simple
hostname with no domain.  A properly configured sendmail will rewrite
those to the full domain, but properly configured sendmails appear to
be rather rare beasts.

set hostname = "$hostname:2 $hostname:1"

in /usr/lib/Mushrc or your .mushrc will usually fix it.  Failing that,

set hostname = "jsp.com $hostname"

(where jsp.com is whatever you want the From: to use).
-- 
Bart Schaefer                                           schaefer@z-code.com
Z-Code Software Corporation                             schaefer@cse.ogi.edu
From: la049137@zach.fit.edu (David Rackmales (HCX Lab/SU90))
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: PAGE NUMBERING OF WINGZ REPORTS
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:31:01 GMT
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

Howdy, out there!

I have a couple of appendicies in my thesis which are composed of
reports generated on WINGZ.  But, it can't seem to find a way to 
number the pages in the correct sequence with the rest of my 
thesis.  I haven't really experimented with the "header" command
Will it work?

Has anyone solved this problem?  Could I write a script to place the
correct page number in the appropriate header area?  Will I be able to
avoid paginating the sheets manually (not really, I'll just put them into 
the printer and let word run off the numbered blanks...)

Please respond by e-mail or post, it doesn't matter to me.

thanks in advance.



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From: ossian@comlab.gatech.edu (Ossian Gillebert)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Re: seeking sources and FTP sites
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:52:21 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Moreover can some one Please list unix and Cshell Tcshell ftp locations
such as UUNet but by digital addrs ie:(128.21.365.1) where such prgrms.
might be located.
Thanks -Ossian

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From: corpron@sparc33.hri.com (Dan Corpron)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Wanted: Lotus 1-2-3 "benchmarks"
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:32:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: bigbird.6226
Reply-To: corpron@hri.com
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

I have the honor of testing the compatibility and performance of 
Lotus 1-2-3 on different platforms (DOS and UNIX).  Does anyone
out there have a set of benchmarking and/or compatibility validation 
spreadsheets that I can have?

Also, can anyone comment on 1-2-3 under HP-UX ?

Thanks one and all!

Dan R. Corpron			UUCP: ...bbn!hri.com!corpron
Horizon Research, Inc.		INET: corpron@hri.com
1432 Main Street		(617) 466-8315
Waltham, MA 02154
From: ossian@comlab.gatech.edu (Ossian Gillebert)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Re: seeking sources and FTP sites
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:57:10 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Hello. I am seeking a Spreadsheet program that will wirk in a tcsh or
SunOS environment. What library might I find such a prgm. within?

Moreover can some one Please list unix and Cshell Tcshell ftp locations
such as UUNet but by digital addrs ie:(128.21.365.1) where such prgrms.
might be located.
Thanks -Ossian



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From: kdarc@sg1.chem.nrc.ca (K. Darcovich)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: "SC" spreadsheet
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:51:52 GMT
Organization: National Research Council of Canada

Hi.  I got a spreadsheet called "sc" about a month ago
through public domain ftp, and someone has asked me
about it.  If anyone can remind me of the address of
the ftp site and directory, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Please e-mail me privately, my access to this newsgroup
is limited.  (kdarc@sg1.chem.nrc.ca)

Thanks, Ken.
From: audit020@spacm1.spac.spc.com (Wayne.S.)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Can 123 Password be broken?
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:24:12 PDT
Organization: Security Pacific Automation Co., LA, CA

Help.

I need to hack into a 123 spreadsheet that has been password protected.

Does anyone know the 'trick' or if a backdoor is available from Lotus?
Thanks.

W. Socha
From: geoff@fulcrum.oz.au (Geoff Halprin)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Re: Difference between Wingz 1.1a and 1.1b?
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:00:09 GMT
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group

In <...> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:

>What's this about Wingz 1.1b?  I am a registered user of Wingz and I have
>not heard a thing about it.  I would also like to know the differences
>between 1.1a and 1.1b.

>Jess Holle

Well, I can't list the differences, but the latest Sun CD-Ware (Vol 3) has
a full Wingz 1.1b on it. You get a 30-day trial, and can ring up to get the
registration key to fully enable it. If you already have 1.1a, then you
may (don't quote me - check with a dealer) be able to upgrade from the CD
without a new key. I don't know what the latest revision on other platforms
is. (Not very helpfull, eh?)

Regards, Geoff.

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Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
From: Mary.Curtin@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Excel 3.0 page.setup() bug?
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 11:27:53 GMT

I am using Excel 3, running under Windows 3.0.  

I need to print 469 charts, so have been developing a macro to do this.  
All is well (the first chart prints) when I record the macro.  Then 
I edit it, to put in a for loop (to extend it to do the other 468 charts).

But when I try to run it, I get a Macro error message (which asks 
whether I want to halt, step, continue or goto the error).  The line 
which the error is reported in uses the page.setup function, to make 
the current charts header and footer blank. 

I have checked the recorded statement, which is 

=PAGE.SETUP( ,  , .75, .75,.75,.75,2,FALSE,FALSE,2,9,)

and I cant see any errors with the arguments.

If, when the error comes up, I click the continue box, then the chart
prints correctly.  But doing this 469 times does not appeal!

Anyone got any idea what the problem is?  Suggestions for a fix?


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Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
From: kjf388@tijc02.uucp (Ken Fisher          )
Subject: Plain text file output from excel 3.0
Organization: Siemens Industrial Automation, Johnson City TN
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:48:07 GMT


I missing something?  I cannot find a way to get excel 3.0 to output
to a plain ascii text file in a satisfactory manner.  I know I can copy
from Excel to other windows applications using the clipboard, or
whatever, but I want just a simple ASCII text file, the kind 1-2-3 and
Quattro Pro used to make for me before I switched to Excel.  

Three approaches I have tried: 

	1. Using the add-in FLATFILE.XLA:  This works pretty good, but all
	   text that spilled into adjacent blank cells in the worksheet,
	   does not show up in the ASCII file.  The entry is truncated
	   according to the width of the cell. 

    2. "File Save As" with "text" option:  Cannot find any tab to space
	   expansion that gives proper column alignment. Also many entries
	   have additional double quotes around them. 

    2. Set up printer as "Generic Text File": Here I sometimes get the
	   same single line printed three times in the ASCII file. Column
	   alignment is messed up and I could not fix it by experimenting with
	   tab to space expansion.  Plus, the end of line sequence is "0A 0D"
	   rather than "0D 0A" which completely screws up the mks vi editor I
	   have on my PC. (The screen shows up blank apparently because with
	   the 0A first (line feed) and then the 0D (carriage return) the
	   screen is wiped clean with each 0D.)  If I manually switch the
	   line feed and carriage return characters in the ascii file using debug,
	   then the text line shows up ok, at least in vi.  But I still have the
	   column misaligment problem and also see strange embedded
	   characters, etc.  Or if I use Brief or the Windows notepad editors,
	   the 0D 0A ordering problem goes away, but the column
	   misalignment and strange graphics characters problems are still
	   there. 

I suppose all of this is a result of Excel always being in the graphics
mode, and mapping to fixed printer character sizes doesn't work very
well.  

Or... am I missing something?  Is there a good (better?) way to do it? 

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From: s1495926@techst02.technion.ac.il (Danny Kreindler)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Framework IV ?
Date: 11 Apr 92 13:40:23 GMT
Reply-To: s1495926@techst02.technion.ac.il (Danny Kreindler)
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology

Has anyone heard anything about FrameWork IV? Does it exist? How does it
differ from FW3?

Thanx for any info,

Danny K.
From: jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Re: Difference between Wingz 1.1a and 1.1b?
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:29:03 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

What's this about Wingz 1.1b?  I am a registered user of Wingz and I have
not heard a thing about it.  I would also like to know the differences
between 1.1a and 1.1b.

Jess Holle
From: peter@radig.de (Peter Radig)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Re: Difference between Wingz 1.1a and 1.1b?
Date: 9 Apr 92 05:33:06 GMT
Organization: Peter Radig EDV-Beratung, Frankfurt am Main, Germany
Phone: +49 69 746972
Address: Palmengartenstr. 1, D-W6000 Frankfurt am Main 1, Germany

In <1992Apr7.142903.733@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:
>What's this about Wingz 1.1b?  I am a registered user of Wingz and I have
>not heard a thing about it.  I would also like to know the differences
>between 1.1a and 1.1b.

It's on the new Sun Catalyst CD as 30 days demo version. But if you use the "brander" with
your old Serial Number you get a unrestricted version.

cu,
Peter
From: jack@cpg.trs.reuter.com (Jack Gidding)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Quattro Add-ins
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:14:25 GMT

Hello,

I purchased a version of Quattro 4.0 the other day and it says that
QP4.0 now has add-in capabilities. Does anyone know if there is a
development kit available for these addins similar to Lotus 1-2-3
addin-development kit?

I am interested in writing some addins.


ADVthanksANCE

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From: paulr@fulcrum.oz.au (Paul Rosham)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Lotus DataLens and Wingz DataLink
Summary: Ingres drivers for spreadsheets
Keywords: drivers needed lotus wingz ingres
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:27:18 GMT
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group

Does anyone out there have drivers for either Wingz 1.1b or Lotus 1.1 on the
Sun SPARCstation platform to communicate with Ingres version 6 ?

Commercial products are fine.

Please reply by email and I will summarise to the group.

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Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
From: ghica@fig.citib.com (Renato Ghica)
Subject: Spreadsheet or database ?
Originator: ghica@duck
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:41:12 GMT



	I'm a novice spreadsheet user. I'd like to know from
	the people reading this group which spreadsheet is best
	suited for report generation and file linking. For example,
	if it were to be used to analyze financial data of 5000+
	entities, where a report would need to be generated from
	a collection of spreadsheet files, and fields added and
	deleted as needed, the file linkage could be several levels
	deep, for example :
	
		a set of spreadsheets with quaterly balance sheet info
		one spreasheet with daily info
		one spreadsheet with textual data

	All the above would be "tables" of sorts.


	Similar setups can be conceived for medical data processing as well.	

	Maybe the thing to use is really a database package,
	but with all the superlative releases of excel, foxpro, lotus
	etc, I'm sure where the technology stands.

	



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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Mac spreadsheets with partitions of hidden data?
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:39:39 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

I have a problem that might be appropriately programmed on top of a
spreadsheet, but it needs to be structured in such a way as to hide
about 10 megabytes of commercially sensitive data.  The user should
be able to read and edit their own data, but not the tables I provide,
and the application should at least make it prohibitively laborious to
recover the underlying data by calculation.  Further, the spreadsheet
must be intelligent about what it saves to disk; the private stuff
won't change and multiple copies of it are out of the question, since
users will typically have hundreds or thousands of potential instances
of the spreadsheet.

Is there any Mac spreadsheet that supports this kind of data abstraction
and dynamic binding?  Or do I give up on them and use a conventional
programming language and roll-your-own security-through-obscurity file
formats?  (The level of security does not need to be mil-spec).

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