From: chrisb@hubcap.clemson.edu (Chris Behrens)
Subject: FTP FAQ : Recipes via anon ftp
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:36:00 GMT


FTP FAQ (Last Rev. 01/04/93) :

New and improved !!!  Now includes pointers to HomeBrew archives,
alt.beer "archive", and reference to the abominable MuffinServer.

This is meant to be a means of letting those people who have ftp access
to collect what recipes and "cookbooks" are available via anonymous ftp 
from several prominent sources.  I also included one non-ftp source, the 
Cleveland Freenet BBS.  If you have any corrections/additions/etc. PLEASE 
send me a note.  Even if you post a note to the group, I would like to 
receive an e-mail message so I will be sure to get the information.  
I have found most of these to be reliable sources which haven't faded away 
and are readily accessible on most occasions.  It'll probably be my luck 
that all will have disk crashes the day after you read this and want to 
access them.  Many many more sites are available.  If you have access to 
archie, you may find a list of sites that will keep you busy for a while.
It is impossible for me to list EVERY site holding anonymously ftp'able
information due to periodic changes.

** Please do not mail me and ask how to use ftp or archie.  Ask your site 
** administrator.  If it's available to you, someone there will know how to 
** use it.

Archie is available either via telnet'ing to a site running archie  (ex.
quiche.cs.mcgill.ca (132.206.2.2 or 132.206.51.1)) or using your site's
implementation of it (try typing "archie" as a  command with no parameters
to see if you have it installed).  I have tried several times to get into
quiche.cs.mcgill.ca using login "archie" and have been bumped out each
time.  It does list other possible sites to telnet to, though.  You may
want to ask your sys.admin. either way.  Our site is lucky enough to have 
it installed.  Good luck to you.

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Index -
  The Newsgroup Archives
  The NON-Newsgroup Archives
  The Online "Books"
  The BBS
  The MuffinServer
  The Needed for Future Releases (If there _are_ future releases)

The Newsgroup Archives -

1) alt.gourmand (pre rec.food.recipes) - 

a) Found archived at the site gatekeeper.dec.com (16.1.0.2) in the 
directory /pub/recipes (a link to the actual directory).  These are in U*ix 
*roff format and were a part (or maybe the whole?) Usenet Cookbook during 
the alt.gourmand days.  To print them, you will need to have a *roff 
compatible processor of some kind.  (See below for one such monster for 
MSDOS.)  There are some 500+ files at this location all stuffed into one 
huge somewhat unorganized directory, with subdirectories for software to 
support it.  There are "mirrors" of this collection at other sites in 
various forms around the world which I am not sure of at the present time. 
(I have seen them, just didn't retain the location.  Use archie.)

b) wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4) has a few recipes of the a.g format
in the directory /mirrors/msdos/database in the files rec200-1.zip.  This
is a collection (not sure how many at this time, several hundred maybe?)
intended for use with the IBM PC compatible software, Foodview, to be found
in this same directory.  Don't forget, these are binary files which must
be uncompressed using some utility program once they are on your PC.

2) rec.food.recipes (Andy Mossberg moderatorship) - 

a) Found archived at the site mthvax.cs.miami.edu (129.171.32.5)  in the
directory /recipes.  These are standard text files stored in various 
subdirectories under the common r.f.r divisions (LACTO, OVO, etc.).  
The files themselves are mostly direct extractions from the r.f.r group.
They come in various internal formats.  No standard.  But still interesting
none the less.  There are some 1500+ files here.  Well worth a gander if you
can judge the type (OVO, LACTO, etc.) or the main meat ingredient (CHICKEN,
SHRIMP, PORK, etc.) of the recipe you are in search of.  

b) wuarchive.wustl.edu has a "mirror" of these in the directory 
/usenet/rec.food.recipes in both the "digest" format and the same as above.

3) rec.food.recipes (today with Stephanie da Silva moderatorship) - 

a) I don't know if this is archived anywhere !  It's not being tacked
on to the old r.f.r archives.  Probably shouldn't be either, IMHO.

4) rec.food.drink -

a) I don't know about this one either !  Suggestions ?

5) alt.beer -

a) The "archives" are available via anon ftp from the site ftp.cwru.edu
( ip? ) in the directory /pub/alt.beer   Not much to it IMHO.

6) rec.crafts.brewing -

a) Found archived at the site mthvax.cs.miami.edu in the directory 
/homebrew   A couple of "books" are available in various forms.
Gives mythology and methodology of making home made Ales, Beers, etc.
Fairly interesting if brewing at home is your thing.  Please forgive 
my obvious lack of knowledge of brew terminology.

7) rec.food.sourdough (originally the mailing list only, now a group) -

a) Found archived at the site ftp.ils.nwu.edu (ip?) in the directory
/pub/sourdough.  This collection is not just recipes, but files full of the
concepts involved in the making of various fermented food stuffs, not the
least of which being sourdough breads.  Archives contain digests from the
inception of the mailing list to the current (I assume it contains all).
There are summary files of the basic concepts, and recipes extracted for you
so you don't have to wade through the heap of discussions typical of any
news group.  But, they are there as well just in case you are interested.
I will hazard a guess there may be upwards of 100 recipes of various foods
that are fermented (sourdough, yoghurt, saurkraut, etc.) if you are interested.
There's a lot more to sourdough than recipes, though.  Also worth a gander.

8) rec.food.veg -

a) Found archived at the site bitnic.educom.edu (192.52.179.2) in the directory
nicbbs.391.  Use the login "anonymous" (without the quotes, of course) and
you will not need a password. Then issue the command "cd nicbbs.391".  This
appears to be a VMS system (It's non-U*ix, I know that for sure).  The veg
files are in the files called VEG_RECI.*   These are again in some form of
digests and have plenty of veg recipes if you are willing to strain them out
and away from all of the political BS that is so typical of vegetarians.
(I'll probably get flamed for that statement, but it's true.)

The NON Newsgroup Archives - 

1) The Breadmaker Mailing List Archive (Now Defunct?) -

a) Found archived at the site onion.rain.com (147.28.0.161) in the directory
/pub/bread.   This archive consists of mainly (totally?) digests of the 
mailing list for the various electronic breadmakers that are so popular now.
There are a good number of recipes in the files, and a heap of information
for anyone thoroughly interested in bread.  Information is helpful for any
person making bread in a machine, OR by hand.  The concepts are great. 
This list was semi dormant for quite some time, and appears to be dead now
from what I have read in rec.food.cooking about it lately.

+++ Obsolescent Information ?  (Left just in case...) +++
b) For those interested in getting on the mailing list :
Send submissions to "bread@onion.rain.com"
Send add/drop requests to "listserv@onion.rain.com"
For an index of back articles that are available, send a message
containing the line "send index from bread" to "netlib@onion.rain.com"
+++ End Obsolescent Information...                    +++

Online "Books" that have been created -

a) "The Network Cookbook" by Ms. X (a collection of general recipes from 
the net over a period of time)  This one is approximately 200 pages all 
together, and is worth the time it takes to download and print if you don't 
already have some large collection printed.  It is a good cross section of 
recipes that is very representative of what goes through the food groups on a 
regular basis.  TOC and index.  Also available in formats other than 
Postscript (TeX, dvi, maybe others.)  Subdivisions of the book are available. 
Can be found at the site cs.ubc.ca (ip?) in the directory
/ftp/local/RECIPES  (That capital RECIPES is mucho importante!)  It's in the
file main.ps and several others as well.  You'll see once you get there.

b) "Collected Recipes from the Beyond" by Sanjiv Singh (a collection of 
Indian recipes in Postscript format) - Less than 50 pages.  Many interesting 
recipes.  TOC, no index.  Can be found at wuarchive.wustl.edu in the 
directory /usenet/rec.food.recipes   Also found it at mthvax.cs.miami.edu in 
the directory /recipes

c) "The Graduate Student's Guide to Indian Recipes" by Somesh Rao (a 
collection of Indian recipes in Postscript or TeX format) can be found at the 
site wpi.wpi.edu (130.214.24.1) in the directory /recipes  
This guide is around 85 pages all together, and contains many interesting 
looking Indian recipes.  TOC, no index.

d) "Online Cookbook" by Scott Steinbrink (?) (Simple text file formatted at
X lines per page ready for direct printing without other formatting needs.)
A decent collection of recipes from nobody-knows-where.  I don't know if
this is available via anonymous ftp yet, or if it will ever be.  I received
my copy through the mail as was solicited.  Nothing fascinating, but a lot
of time went into it.  Nice for version 1.

BBS's 

a) Cleveland Freenet BBS - Telnet to freenet-in-a.cwru.edu (ip?) or to
freenet-in-b.cwru.edu (ip?)  or to  freenet-in-c.cwru.edu (ip?)
and set back and get ready for some interesting information.  Takes a while
to actually get in, but is great once there.  You can even register as a
regular user.  What I want to mention here are the discussion groups for 
drinking, food, and recipes available to anyone, registered or not, which 
are similar to r.f.drink, r.f.cooking, and r.f.recipes groups in the Usenet 
News.  They may actually be a subset, not sure yet.  I am not sure about 
downloading articles and recipes from this BBS yet either.  Anyone know ?

Mail Servers

a) The MuffinServer - FTP-by-Email - Yes, that's right!  Muffin recipes
available by E-mail.  Send a mail message to muffin@pinn.nacjack.gen.nz
where the first line of the actual message is "/HELP" without the quotes.

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If this has been helpful to you in some way, please drop me a line and tell
me.  If there is something else you would like to see added or changed in
some way, feel free to suggest it via e-mail.  I apologize for misspelling
anybody's name, and stating any incorrect information.  Corrections Welcome!

Needed (wanted) for next release : 
    Other Online books available via anon ftp
    New food related items available via anon ftp (New r.f.r archives, etc.)
       (not copies of existing archives)
    Other directions of interest (within reason)

All help will be appreciated in one way or another.

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Thank You.

Chris Behrens                        chrisb@hubcap.clemson.edu
Greenville Technical College         (via Clemson University, Clemson, SC)
Greenville, SC
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Chris Behrens                                  chrisb@hubcap.clemson.edu 
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