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From: amead@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Alan Mead)
Subject: Re: Test Taking Skills
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:01:29 GMT

Remo Ostini <rxo868@CSCGPO.ANU.EDU.AU> writes:

>There is one thing that hasn't been mentioned in your discussion so far.  The
>best test taking strategy is to actually know your stuff.  The strategies
>you are discussing refer to the minority of questions that the test-taker
>doesn't know the answer to - I hope.  If someone has to guess most of the
>answers then perhaps they shouldn't be taking the test, or at least they
>shouldn't expect to do well.

>Just to add the results of a case study of one test taker over many years (me!)
>I've found that the best strategy to use in a test is to be as calm and
>relaxed as possible.  That way your thoughts are clear and you are less likely
>to confuse yourself over whether or not you actually know the answer to a
>question.

Thanks.  But I'm not sure I get your point.  You admit that your
arousal state influences your test score; are you implying that
arousal is somehow part of the content of the test?  (I assume that
"knowing your stuff" means "being competent in the subject matter" and
not "knowing your own capabilities" or "keeping your head in
emergencies" or something else).

Also, I think the point is that the good schools have very few
positions relative to the number of applicants.  So even a slight
advantage in, say, test-taking skills (slight might be one or two more
questiosn right) could mean the diffrence between acceptance or
rejection (or aid vs no aid, etc).

Finally, from observing my wife and my old roommate in school, I'm
prepared to make the gross leap that being a "good" reader is the 
most important factor in doing well on tests of verbal skills and
on classroom tests in general.  My poor roommate wouldn't even be able
to finish most of his tests.  My wife would go through it three times,
point out the grammer errors and then leave early.

-alan
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Subject: Re: Psychometrics and Fellowships
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So it's not only having a previous fellowship that predicts getting a
fellowship, but also GRE results, minority status and research
proposals.
Is this a circular argument, or what??!!

Yup, it sure is.  The interesting part is that GRE's, etc. DON'T
predict speed through the program--having $$$ in the form of a
fellowship does!  So perhaps it's not as circular as it seems.
While GRE and GPA are used to award fellowships, the suggestion is
that giving somebody the financial support they need to do their
work in grad school without having to work at KMart just to pay the
rent will result in a higher proportion of successful graduations--
no matter WHAT the GRE scores!
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From:         Ellen Galloway <henley@PSY.PSYCH.NOVA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: labrys
              at Aug 22, 92 7:32 am

Hi Walter,
A labrys is a double bitted ax.  It was origionally used in Greece and
northern Africa by the guardians of the temples of Diana, Hecta, Kor,
Gaia, Artimus (sp, sorry) and Astarte.  These goddesses were all virgin
warriors or hunters.  The temples were traditionally run and staffed
by women exclusively.  These chaste women, were often dedicated to the
goddesses remaining virgins through out their lives.  The labrys was the
wepon which was used to protect the temples.  Currently the labrys is
used as a descrete lesbian symbol.  As it's meaning is not commonly
known I can wear one without having to worry about getting fired or
upsetting my clients.  For further information you could look in the
Women's Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets.       Ellen


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From: amead@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Alan Mead)
Subject: Re: GRE etc
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:48:19 GMT

There are anecdotal accounts of people who have cheated their way
through grad school.   Since grad schools vary in their admissions
requirements, quality, and philosophy, this, in itself, isn't
unthinkable.  But I do recall thinking the story was implausible.  It
was reported in a reputable-ish news source.  This particular guy
couldn't read.

Personally, although I would like degree holders to be able to read a
book or newspaper, if someone is smart enough to get through GRAD
school without knowing how to read, I say they are smarter than the
average person in grad school.

Studies on cheating behavior (of which I'm only glancingly familiar)
have a lot of problems.  *I* really like the randomized survey
method:

You give them a randomizing device (eg, a die) and ask, "Have you (1)
ever cheated or (2) just rolled a 1".  That way, your subjects have
less incentive to lie and yet you can compute the percentage of
cheaters in your sample.

-alan
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From:         std_martin@HG.ULETH.CA
Subject:      obesity and medical studies

Kenn,

Before you start dismissing what she (your lecturer) had to say, take
a good look at some of the studies used to make us feel guilty
about the way we treat ourselves.  It was a real eye opener to me
and that doesn't happen very often (my fav is the one on fat intake and
breast cancer>.

Jesse
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From:         Julie Marie Williams <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: cheating

Wow, in my British ignorance I thought we were _really_ talking about Greeks,
there, for a minute.
You learn something new every day, as they say............

Julie
St Andrews
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From:         Julie Marie Williams <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Psychometrics

I'm not really familiar with the idea of fellowships- how do you get one in
the first place?

Julie
St Andrews
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From:         MICHELLE HALL <GR4522@SIUCVMB.BITNET>
Subject:      AEP programs

Julia-

   Our programs do sound similar.  Here we also have core classes (6 of
them) which focus on data analysis, research design, etc.  We take a
comps in our core (I did that earlier this summer, and it was no fun!).
We also have a specialization.  We are required to have six classes for
that also, and then take our specialization comps.  Our specialization
is entirely up to us (of course the program chair has to approve it)
recent specializations include marketing/consumer behavior, personnel,
training, psychometrics, etc.  I haven't actually propsed my
specialization yet, but I am leaning towards marketing evaluation, or
something along that line.  I would like to hear more about what you
are doing with advertising and psycholinguistics.  You can e-mail me
at GR4522@SIUCVMB.

Michelle Hall
Southern Illinois University at Carbondale.
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From:         "CLSTAD::LDUNN" <ldunn%clstad.decnet@CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: GRE etc
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Jennifer, What a GREAT story! Thank you for your reply. I have to
tell you that the person that I was referring to is at presently
at USC (too funny!)
Linda
P.S. I park at your school for the Raiders' games!
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From:         Don Gallogly <EUP_DG@CWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Olympics

Remo Ostini writes...

>One teensy weensy correction for Don.
>
>> forteenth.  Oh and by the way, I think a Belgian won, a French woman took
>> second, I don't recall third.  The same thing happened in the men's road
>>race,
>
>Actually, an Australian girl won, Kathy Watt.

You're absolutely right.  My sincerest, humble apologies.  Kind of makes my
point though, huh?  ALL the talk was about Inga Thompson, who had a miserable
race.  I would have liked to know more about this unknown Australian.

Don Gallogly
EUP_DG@CWU.bitnet
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From:         Juan Mario Micolta <MAGIS@UJCCOL.BITNET>
Subject:      Sense of Belonging

Hi all, I'm making an investigation about the sense   of belonging in
an organization. I'm trying to know what kind of things are used to
improve this feeling into the organization members at different levels.
Also if you have identified some factors which prevent the development of
the sense of  belonging.

Thanks in advance for your opinion.

Juan Mario Micolta
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From:         GORDONSE@UNCG.BITNET
Subject:      business/psych books

I am teaching a course on psychology applied to work this fall and
would appreciate everyone's suggestions on nontextbook suggestions
for books such as The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People, etc.

Sharon Gordon
gordonse@uncg.bitnet
gordonse@iris.uncg.edu
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From:         "CLSTAD::LDUNN" <ldunn%clstad.decnet@CSUPOMONA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: INTRODUCTION
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Hi Debbie, I am also new to the network so this is my first "reply"! I find
the fact that you are experiencing difficulty in your efforts to
recruit people with eating disorders, but then again I am located in
California where "You can never be too rich or too thin" mentality
screams at you just about everywhere you look (billboards, media, spas, etc).
The "experts" say that eating disorders are caused by a feeling of lack
of control in one's life, but I feel that the blame can be strongly
associated with pressures that the media puts on us!
Linda
Go Raiders!
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From:         GR3894@SIUCVMB.BITNET
Subject:      body-image disorders

To follow up on Debbie's inquiry, I have noticed and started researching body-
image disorders among males.  This disorder is one where men see themselves as
smaller than they really are and turn to bodybuilding, anabolic steroid use,
etc. to alleviate their anxiety(?).  Since many of you psycgradders seem to be
clinically oriented, do you see body-image disorders among some of your male
patients?  Have you encountered anabolic steroid use among your clients and if
so what is your impression of steroid use/addiction.

Michael
Southern Illinois at Carbondale
GO PACKERS !!!
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From:         KMORGAN@WHEATNMA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Psychometrics

..."In a class of 300 students, one can submit papers in anonymity,
even with one's name on them.  In a class of 4 or 5, such as I have
now--even a code number becomes associated with the person to whom it
belongs....."

Not true.
In a large class, surely the lecturer will know at least SOME of the
students by name?


Some lecturers might--I know others that don't.  It depends a little
on the instructor, too.

And the idea of anonymous numbering is that SOMEBODY ELSE allocates
the numbering so that the marker NEVER gets to see associated
name/number pairs. Otherwise it is pointless.

And that isn't going to happen in a school in which class size is 4
or 5 students to one instructor.  Trust me--I'm in one now.  We do
EVERYTHING--create assignments, monitor them, grade them, type them,
photocopy them.  We work our butts off! (Boy, do I know what a great
deal TA's are now!!)

However, there IS the fact of recognition of
handwriting....hmmmmmm...can anyone solve THAT one?!

Sure--require students to turn in work typed, or dumped into an
electronic "dropbox."  Even at my little school, we have that
technology.  No TA's, and not even a Scantron--but plenty of
computer equipment!!  :)

--Kathy
From: dmw2@bunny.gte.com (DEan Whitney)
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Subject: pesky NEW GUY
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:04:14 GMT
Organization: GTEL

Hello, and yes I am new to this group, so I guess a quick introduction is 
in order.
My name is Dean, and I am currently working at GTE laboratories in Waltham 
Mass.
 I do information processing research, human machine interaction kind of 
stuff.  More specifically, graphical support of reasoning strategies 
(enough already !!).

Well I just wanted to say hey, and (my personal political opinions aside) 
urge every one to register to vote, and vote DEMOCR.........ugh, vote 
frequently........just VOTE


Thanks

DEan

Hey NANCY

DEan Whitney
aka dmw2@bunny.gte.com
GE no, no, GTE
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From:         GORDONSE@UNCG.BITNET
Subject:      e-mail address for Margaret S. Clark

Can anyone give me an e-mail address, snail mail or phone number
for Margaret S. Clark at C. Mellon University?

Sharon Gordon
gordonse@uncg.bitnet
gordonse@iris.uncg.edu
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From:         Gerri Oppedisano <gerri@WATSON.IBM.COM>
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>         Y^=-.395+.0031X1+.00059X2+.4457X3
>
>         In which X1=VGRE
>                  X2=QGRE
>                  X3=UGPA
>
>         And of course the variable of interest (Y) is the GRGPA.
>
>       Presumably a similar model is in use at most Universities. Is the
> use of the GRE valid???

Call me a skeptic, but I can't believe that universities use this
model on all applications. I have a friend whose mother works at a
university admissions office at Teacher's College (Columbia) and she
said her mother gets handed all clinical psych graduate applications
and is told to remove all applications where the GRE score is below
some score (I think 600 in each category..something like that). The
graduate psych advisor at Columbia himself handed me a sheet of paper
which was supposed to tell what's needed to get into a graduate psych
program.. on that sheet it says something like, "If you score less than
600 in any of the GRE sections, don't bother applying".. This was his
advise for any grad school.. Luckily I got hold of the APA book of
grad schools which gives a little more info on just what each school
expects.

Does anyone out there REALLY know if this is done regularly? Maybe this
is only done in a small number of schools.

By the way, Remi makes some good points.. Just wanted to acknowledge
that since I've been one of the GRE opposers, although I did suggest
they be used with less weight than I believe they are.

I think I've had my fill of this discussion however... Unless someone
starts siting real studies. But even then, BLECH! Let's change the
topic! (-:

gerri
From: ucjtpsk@ucl.ac.uk (Mr Shiv Kaul)
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std_martin@HG.ULETH.CA writes:
>I did, and it has paid off in more ways than one.  I have
>some very good friends at my undergraduate institution and
>in addition in discussing how is the best way to get good
>grades with one of them (besides knowing the material), he
>said that being a friend is about the best.  When you are
>friends with someone, it is very easy to justify to yourself
>that they must know more, and are having a bad day or whatever.
>Keep this in mind for the future.

That might be so in a situation where they know the writer of the 
exam paper that they are grading, but don't you have anonymous exam
scripts (just a number) like we do in the UK?

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From:         BUTLERD@FS1.PSY.EMORY.EDU
Subject:      Rats, learning and memory
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Ramie asked if there is anyone doing learning and memory/hippocampus
in rats. I am working in the ventral medial nucleus of the thalamus
of rats and its participation in learning/memory. THe VMT sends
output to and receives in put from the hippo. (as well as many other
cortical areas). Let me know if you want to talk.

Dev at Emory
Atlanta, Georgia-- Home of Whatizit, and the division leading Atlanta
BRAVES!!!!
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From:         Monika Trzcinska <054470@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Cultural Bias or Cultural Diversity?
              13 Aug 1992 11:04:00 EDT from <tmsellers@UALR.EDU>

Couldnt it be that this Chinese student was much more "talented" or better
at what he was doing than his English-speaking classmates?  The reason why
he couldnt express himself in your language does not mean he did not know
the material.
Just a thought,

                                 _
    ) (    Monika Trzcinska    _- o   ) (   054470@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA
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 "Before we can have applied science, we must have a science to apply"

                                                              D.O.Hebb
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From:         james canaday <CANADAY@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Cultural Bias or Cultural Diversity?
              14 Aug 1992 17:00:34 BST from <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK>

Hello:
Yes, learning the english language and dominent cultural morres of academia
help indeed.  However, a sizable minority faces a two-edged sword in this, here
 in U.S.  Many native americans are keenly aware of the massive distances from
their own cultures to the dominent/english cultur.  Many are faced with a
simple and painful choice: acculturate or remain in poverty-frequently on "rese
rvations."
     For many, English is the language they are most familiar with, but
formal higher education and its approach to the world are frequently
antithetical to traditional values and social expectations of these groups.
     In this instance, language is only one of several factors influencing
participation and function in educational work.  Note that many of these
persons have received substandard educations-tied to their ethnic and
Socio-economic conditions.  Thus, being raised in an English-speaking
environment is not always equal.
    If I've seemed a little rambling, please forgive me-I'm yawning!
     Weather: unseasonably cool-perhaps 50 deg. low tonight 72-75 tomorrow.
jc
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From:         std_martin@HG.ULETH.CA
Subject:      Re: Psychometrics

In response to Stephanie in L.A.

As a future proffesor, I wouldn't consider writing a letter of
recomendation anything else but honestly.  Very early in my
undergraduate career a professor (who is now a good friend)
told me that one of the most important things that I can do is
cultivate the friendship of some of the professors, because
the letters of recomendation do carry a lot of weight.  This
I did, and it has paid off in more ways than one.  I have
some very good friends at my undergraduate institution and
in addition in discussing how is the best way to get good
grades with one of them (besides knowing the material), he
said that being a friend is about the best.  When you are
friends with someone, it is very easy to justify to yourself
that they must know more, and are having a bad day or whatever.
Keep this in mind for the future.

Jesse
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From:         "Philip Richins, Continuing Education, CWU,
              (509) 963-1504" <RICHINSP@CWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: manic depression

I will have to send the exact ref. later when I can look it up, however
David Lukoff did work with a manic depressive who was an artist.  He was
able to help treat the illness and preserve the creative aspect of the
patient's life.  I will forward more later.  However, it anyone has access to
a database they may find it quicker than I.

Philip :-{)
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From:         std_martin@HG.ULETH.CA
Subject:      RE: GRES, ADMISSIONS

I think Loree's letter makes some good points.  One thing more to
consider, would you want to work with a fellow student who scored
in the fifth percentile?  I would think that they would be lacking
in some of the very basic skills necessary for grad school.

Jesse
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