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From: dattier@gagme.chi.il.us (David W. Tamkin)
Subject: Re: how can i use vacation and filter at the same time (maybe FAQ)
Originator: dattier@gagme
Keywords: filter, vacation, faq
Organization: Gagme Public Access Seraglio, Chicago, Illinois  60656-1252
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:11:02 GMT

steve@coos.dartmouth.edu (Steve Campbell) wrote in
<1992Aug18.212238.5206@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>:

| my2x@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Munho Yi) writes:

| >i wonder whether i can use filter and vacation at the same time.
| >it would be hard since they both using .forward file.

| always execute "tee -a /usr/spool/mail/yourname | /usr/ucb/vacation yourname"

That may be safe if you're on the Internet and you rarely get two letters at
the same time, but it is poison on UUCP sites, where mail arrives in batches.
tee does no file locking and text will mix in your mailbox.

Steve Simmons's suggestion to change .forward to

"|/path/to/filter -[v]o /path/to/errorfile","|/path/to/vacation yourname"

sounds much better.

| This setup has the advantage that vacation messages get sent only to the
| people whose mail normally goes into your real mailbox and not to the others -
| often mailing lists - whose mail you divert into special mailboxes.

Aren't there ways within vacation to take care of that?

Alternatively, your last filter rule could be to execute something that saves
the letter to a temporary file, feeds that file as stdin to vacation, mails
it to real-yourname or \yourname, and deletes the temporary file.  That
prevents filed letters from hitting vacation without the risk of text mixing
in your incoming mailbox.

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@gagme.chi.il.us   CompuServe: 73720,1570   MCI Mail: 426-1818
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Using elm as the mailer for news
Date: 23 Aug 92 01:20:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

I once had a little script which someone had given me to make rn/trn use
elm its mailer.  I would set the environmental variable which rn uses to
find the mailer to the name of this script, and the script would set up a
mail folder and call elm.  I would then select the first and only message in
that folder and reply to it.  

It worked, but it was kind of kludgy.  I can't believe that no one has
thought up a better way.  What is it?  

[I did look the articles on my system, and nothing talked about it.] 

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich)
Subject: Problem with system identity in mail (Return address)
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 13:49:40 GMT



	We have a new hp700.  When it was on the open network the
	system name was snake.  Now it's avatar.

	It is known on the network and to itself as avatar.

	If someone sends mail from it the mail return address
	is ******@snake, which doesn't exist.

	How can I change the address so it knows it's avatar?


-- 
	Alan Yasutovich
	"inquiring  (and nosey) minds WANT TO KNOW!!!"
	I can remember when "safe sex" meant having a padded headboard!!
	Tick Tock.....Tick Tock......Tick Tock .....Tick Tock......
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein)
Subject: Re: ELM doesn't accept aliases
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc.  Huntingdon Valley, PA
Distribution: clpd
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:09:36 GMT

thomas@serum.clpd.Kodak.Com (bulli@kodak.com) writes:
>I run ELM 2.3PL16 on a SCO Unix 3.2. with MMDF as mail agent.
I'll presume this is a typo, the highest PL for 2.3 is 11.
> I don't
>have a system-wide aliases file for ELM but a local one in my account
>- but ELM does not accept the aliases in there. I ran newalias, looked
>up the documentation etc. but couldn't find any clue - can anyone out
>there help me?
Besure that you are running the 2.3 newalias against the 2.3 Elm.  2.2 was
at PL16, perhaps you are running the 2.2 newalias against the 2.3 elm or the
2.3 newalias against the 2.2 elm, those combinations will not work.
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Datacomp Systems, Inc.                 Projected 2.4 Release: Oct 1,1992
syd@DSI.COM or dsinc!syd      Voice: (215) 947-9900, FAX: (215) 938-0235
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein)
Subject: Re: Forward
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc.  Huntingdon Valley, PA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:10:43 GMT

mai@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Andrew Mai) writes:
>We are running ELM 2.3 PL11 with a pretty standard configuration
>(as far as I can tell) and a pretty standard elmrc file.  When
>forwarding a message (using the 'f' key), if we answer 'n' to the
>question 'Edit outgoing message? (y/n)', the recipient gets two
>messages.  The first contains one line:

>Forwarded message:

>and the second contains the message as coming from the original
>sender.
Neat trick.  I have no idea how you got it to do that.

>Is there a way to set things up so that this latter behavior always
>happens?
I want to know how you set it up so that behavior happens at all.
Sounds like you've got some kind of install or permissions problem.
I have no idea how you even got it to do that at all.
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Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP          Elm Coordinator - Current 2.3PL11
Datacomp Systems, Inc.                 Projected 2.4 Release: Oct 1,1992
syd@DSI.COM or dsinc!syd      Voice: (215) 947-9900, FAX: (215) 938-0235
From: dave@strydr.UUCP (David Schnardthorst)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Problem with system identity in mail (Return address)
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:56:25 GMT
Reply-To: dave@strydr.UUCP (David Schnardthorst)
Organization: Stryder Communication Computer Consultants

In article <1992Aug12.134940.10710@ll.mit.edu> yasu@ll.mit.edu (Alan Yasutovich) writes:
>
>	We have a new hp700.  When it was on the open network the
>	system name was snake.  Now it's avatar.
>
>	If someone sends mail from it the mail return address
>	is ******@snake, which doesn't exist.
>
>	How can I change the address so it knows it's avatar?
>

	Well Alan, It really depends on the Elm was compiled.  Your System 
	Administrator may have compiled Elm with the System Name Compiled
	into it.  There is however an option in the config.h file, if your 
	system supports the uname() System Call you can use that option
	instead of hard coding the System name.

	The only way you can change the address so that it knows that it is
	avatar is by having your System Administrator fix the code to know
	who it is.



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                 Stryder Communications Computer Consulting
                    525 Rancho Ln.  St. Louis, MO 63031
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: fish@daacdev1.stx.com
Subject: is there anyway to make RETURN and not "i" take you to the index?
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:37:46 GMT

is there anyway to make RETURN and not "i" take you to the index?
or would that require a hack on the code - i don't see it in the
configurable parameters

		fish
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: How to include my signature in my mail?
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:30:39 GMT
Organization: umunk (private)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

teh@latcs1.lat.oz.au (RICHIE TEH) writes:
: Hi everyone,
: 
: 	I'm new to this group so my question might have already been
: asked. Can anyone tell me how to include signature to mail? I've created
: a .signature file but its doing nothing. Thanks in advance!

Get $HOME/.elm/elmrc into an editor and add the path/filename to localsignature
and remotesignature lines. If you don't have the elmrc file so far, create
it from elm with the command 'o'.
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From: wp@orion.erls01.siemens.de (Wolfgang Prediger)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: elm folder format
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:51:24 GMT
Reply-To: wp@orion.erls01.siemens.de
Organization: SIEMENS AG, AUT 482, Nbg-M
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Syd Weinstein (syd@DSI.COM) wrote:
: hook@eagle.geog.ubc.ca (Chris Hook) writes:
: >Can anyone give me an idea as to what elm is looking for in the
: >so-called mail folder format.
: Elm 2.3 is a bit picky, to avoid being fooled by a 'From ' line in
: the body of a message.
: 
: It wants the 'From ' lines to be of the format
: 'From user-name-string date-stamp'
: 
: where date stamp must be in the format ddd mmm hh:mm:dd [ttt] yy[yy]
: 
: it must have either 5 or 6 fields (7 is a no no for 2.3 (two timezone
: fields such as MET DST).
: -- 

Hello

Maybe it's a FAQ, but what if the mailsystem (SysVR4) produces a
'From' line in the following format, e.g.:

'From root Thu Aug 13 09:57:26 MESZ 1992 remote from kommu'

for all non-local mail (as ours does).

We use Elm 2.3PL11 and I have modified some sources to inhibit a strict
From-line checking, but I am not sure that is works correctly for
all cases.
Is there an 'official' patch available and what's the behaviour
of Elm2.4 for this ?

Thanks in advance

Wolfgang

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: baycroft@zoi.lib.uwo.ca (Mike Baycroft)
Subject: How do I include an equals sign in an elm alias?
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:59:34 GMT

My question is fairly straight forward (I think).

How does one alias a address that look like:

	/dd.id=some.name/@domain

When I add this to the elm alias file the entry looks like:

	alias = Full Name = /dd.id=some.name/@domain

And when elm interprets this it assumes that the Full Name is
something like:

	Full Name =/dd.id

and the email address is:

	some.name/@domain

Any ideas, tricks, short cuts, or bad news will be appreciated.

Thanks.

Mike.

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal)
Subject: Re: Priorities
Organization: Unicom Systems Development, Austin, TX
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 07:06:46 GMT

>Elm makes no further distinction based on actual contents of the Priority:
>header.

Not totally true.  The only thing priority is used for is to mark a
message as `urgent', and such a message is indicated with a `U' on
the index screen.  In order for a message to be marked urgent, it must
have a Priority: header, and the value of the header must be something
other than `normal' or `non-urgent'.  If and only if both conditions
are met then the message is marked `U'.
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Unicom Systems Development   | knowing when it's time to go.
<chip@chinacat.Unicom.COM>   |  - Michelle Shocked
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: shenai@amnese.eng.uab.edu (Aravind K. Shenai)
Subject: Help on Mush help feature!
Originator: shenai@amnese.eng.uab.edu
Reply-To: chilukur@amnese.eng.uab.edu
Organization: Comp. Science Dept, University of Alabama at Birmingham
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:58:42 GMT

Hi
	When I try to use the help feature in mush, I get the following
	error message:
	Cannot open help file "cmd_help":No such file or directory.

	In what directories should I expect to see these files and if they
	are not loaded can I ftp it from someplace?

	Sorry if this is a FAQ.

	Thanks in advance

Aravind

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Subject: less in mush
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:10:25 GMT

I'm interested in making the pager 'less', when used within mush,
behave just as it does when I use it from the shell.  The options I
use are -MCqse.

For some reason less is not able to report the file size and line
number within mush--unless I go to the end of the message; then I get
the line number and percentage wherever I go in the message.  
Is this due to less' inability to read the end-of-message as
end-of-file?

Thank you.
--Rob
 
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: garym@telesoft.com (Gary Morris @pulsar)
Subject: Re: How to change 'From' field
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:56:17 GMT

In <1992Aug13.172522.17457@evb.com> mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh) writes:
>I want to change my return address depending upon
>whom I want to reply to. I have an alias 'reuse' set 
>up in my /etc/aliases and the mails are forwarded to me.
>When I reply to 'reuse' mails I want the return address
>to be 'reuse@evb.com' instead of mahesh@evb.com. How do I
>do this ?

Mush won't let you change your address in the 'From:' field like that.  You
can set the 'Reply-To:' field, which most mailers will recognize and use.

Put this in your .mushrc:

    my_hdr Reply-To: reuse@evb.com

--GaryM
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
From: mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: How to change 'From' field
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT Inc.
Affiliate-Of: EVB Software Engineering, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:25:22 GMT

I want to change my return address depending upon
whom I want to reply to. I have an alias 'reuse' set 
up in my /etc/aliases and the mails are forwarded to me.
When I reply to 'reuse' mails I want the return address
to be 'reuse@evb.com' instead of mahesh@evb.com. How do I
do this ? I tried setting the USER environment, but it did
not work.


-- 

B.G. Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
From: ssloter@gdfwc3.UUCP (Scott Sloter)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mush
Subject: mail service
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:48:53 GMT
Reply-To: gdfwc3!ssloter@central.sun.com
Distribution: tx
Organization: General Dynamics, Fort Worth Division

Hi.  This is the first time I am posting to this group.  I hope this is the
correct group to ask this in.

I want to set up an e-mail utility for my dad.  He has a 386 PC clone at home.
I needed to find out what I would need to do to get him the ability to send me
e-mail at work.  What software do I need for him?  What sites are there in San
Antonio, Texas which could send him the mail?  

Please e-mail me replies.  Thanks.
                              Scott

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From: pli@daredevil.cs.hut.fi (Pontus Lindman)
Subject: Problem with Excel:Borders
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 11:51:53 GMT

Hi!

 I'm doing some statistics with Excel 3.0. I'm running Excel on a 486-clone
running Windows 3.1 and print with a Laserjet series II with the driver that
came with Windows 3.1. 

 I try to put borders around my "=SUM"-rows and everything seems to go fine.
But when I print the sheets on my Laserjet, the borders are printed only on 
some of the sheets. On some they are there, on some they are completely gone 
and on some there just a part of the border.

 I didn't find any help in the manual, so if someone knows an answer to my
problem, I would really appreciate your help.

	Thanks in advance,
				Pontus Lindman

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Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets,comp.graphics,comp.graphics.avs,comp.graphics.explorer,comp.graphics.visualization
From: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.graphics.gnuplot
Originator: dslg0849@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:41:55 GMT

I have posted a `Request For Discussion' to news.groups for the creation
of a GNUPLOT newsgroup.  The charter is reproduced below.

Should the group be named `comp.apps.gnuplot' or `comp.graphics.gnuplot'?
Please follow-up to news.groups.  I strongly discourage email replies.

Thank you,
Daniel Lewart
d-lewart@uiuc.edu
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NAME:   comp.apps.gnuplot or comp.graphics.gnuplot

CHARTER:
1) This group is for the discussion of the GNUPLOT plotting program by
   developers and users.
2) This group will be gatewayed with a mailing list if someone volunteers
   to maintain it.
3) An FAQ list will be maintained.
4) GNUPLOT is a command-driven interactive function plotting program which:
   a) Plots data or functions.
   b) Has been tested on Unix, VMS, MSDOS, MS-Windows, OS/2, Amiga, and
      Atari platforms.
   c) Supports many different graphics devices.
   d) Is authored by Thomas Williams, Colin Kelley, Russell Lang,
      Dave Kotz, John Campbell, Gershon Elber, and many others.
   e) Is not part of the GNU project.

STATUS: Unmoderated
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Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
From: timtow@timtow.b1.ingr.com (Tim Tow)
Subject: Re: Question for Excel users.
Reply-To: timtow@timtow.b1.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp, Huntsville, Alabama
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 01:22:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.132205.26624@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, kdesai@brtph490.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Kalpit Desai P265) writes:
|> I am new to Excel and have a problem. The problem is that I have 
|> data that is laid across rows of the spreadsheet. i.e
|> 
|> +=====+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+==
|> |     | A | B | C | D | E | F | G | H | I | J | K | L | M | N | O | P | Q | R
|> +=====+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+==
|> | DA1 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 6 | 8 | 5 | 8 | 9 | 4 | 3 | 5 | 7 | 4 | 2 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 3
|> +=====+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+==
|> | DA2 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 9 | 8 | 9 | 4 | 9 | 0 | 3 | 2 | 5 | 7 | 3
|> +=====+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+==
|> | DA3 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 6 | 3 | 3 | 3 | 1 | 1 | 1 | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5
|> +=====+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+===+==
|> 
|> What I need to know is how can I find out how many '5's I have in a
|> row, or how many '7's I have in a row. I tried DCOUNT but only seems to
|> work on columns and not rows. I tried to TRANSLATE the database and then
|> use the out put to do a DCOUNT. This method fails if the numbers in the
|> database change. 

Use an array formula:

Assume your spreadsheet above shows the data from rows 1 to 3 and columns
a to r and temp is a named range where you store the number that you want
the distribution for.  Use an array formula;

=sum(if(A1:R1=temp,1,0)) and enter as an array formula ( Ctrl-Shift-Enter )

Then just plug the number you want counted into "temp" and it works!  

Boy is this stuff better than Lotus, Supercalc, 20/20 and all those other 
no name spreadsheets I've used.....

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Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
From: jiangky@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Keyuan Jiang)
Subject: test
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:54:24 GMT
From: rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.apps.spreadsheets
Subject: Re: calculating interest
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:47:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, Irvine

Posted on behalf of a friend:
Using excel, I want to find the rate of return on an investment where
I deposit $1000/month for 10 years and wind up with $200,000.

What's the formula for finding out this annual rate of return?

Please email, I will post summary if there's interest :-)
Kurt