From: carl.camurca@travel.com (Carl Camurca) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: "White man's" AIDS
Date: 10 Dec 92 15:25:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Travel Online / St. Louis Online - St. Louis, MO
Reply-To: carl.camurca@travel.com (Carl Camurca) 

PMM>So what. German scientists have shown that the hiv virus cannot
PMM>evolve from the siv virus.

You keep your statement. PROOF, MAN! The source, man!

Wiener>So?  The mutations necessary would take decades or even
Wiener>centuries. They would not occur in one person.  No one ever
Wiener>said it would.

PMM>It has been shown that this can't happen. All this was a concoction
PMM>of the CIA to midirect people.

PROOF, MAN! AGAIN! Where did you pick up your information? Is it a valid
source or just a faithful belief?

Wiener>>Of course not.  It's too difficult to do in a lab.

That's too easy. It is _very difficult, but I wouldn't think impossible.

PMM>Oh no, don't twist my statement. I meant that they have failed to make
PMM>siv into hiv in the lab. They haven't failed to make hiv, as evidenced
PMM>by the fact hiv is there. The scientists at Ft. Detrick Md, made hiv.

PROOF, MAN! THE THIRD TIME! Show me _any source to validate your
demagogic claims!

PMM>If hiv so simply evolves from siv, why can't they replicate this to
PMM>prove their point.

Humans do not evolve a second time out of the common ancestor of apes
and men. This is one of the Laws of Thermodynamics, applied to
evolutionary processes. It is theoretically possible, but _highly
unlikely.

PMM>This is utter nonsense. You mean to tell me that your govt. has published
PMM>all it's military secrets? Give me a break. Are you denying that the USA
PMM>has top secret biological weapons. Are you telling me that this is free
PMM>domain shareware?

PMM>>
PMM>>How could they do it?  Don't dodge the question.  Spell out the details.

PMM>This is not the first time in the history of this country that disease
PMM>has been used to kill a segment of the population. Small pox killed
PMM>many Indians, and syphillis was allowed to kill tens of black men this
PMM>century, with US govt. accession.

Wasn't syphilis the biological weapon of the Africans to kill
specifically Europeans?
You are not paranoid, are you? Come on, get real!

PMM>There are many theories. All of them start at the CIA lab in Ft Detrick Md.
PMM>Essentially, the USA military created a virus. They then infected gays in
PMM>the USA and blacks in Africa.

...source???...

PMM>>
PMM>>At least you're not pretending to know any biology.

PMM>Just because you have done BZ 110 does make you a hero on top secret
PMM>US govt Biological warfare.

No, but being Scientist, you have a better insight in what is possible,
what is unlikely, and what seems to be very impossible.

PMM>>Considering your weak showing in African geography and history

PMM>Seeing that I have never discussed history with you I don't know
PMM>where you are getting this nonsense. As for geography spare your
PMM>self more humiliation and keep quiet.

Please, stay away from mud-slinging. This conference is not the
Republican Party Convetion.

>>, I don't
>>see how anyone can take your claims to know much about social life in
>>Africa.  If you don't look for it, how would you know?  It's no secret
>>that homosexuality is _extremely_ frowned upon throughout sub-Saharan
>>Africa, much more than in the US or Europe.  You think gay Africans
>>are going to wear pink little triangles so that that Mr Mweene gets an
>>accurate head count?

A little of facts (I do provide sources!):
The major South-African Gay Activist is Simon Nkoli, a Black man. Read
an interview with him in the ADVOCATE (#616, p44-47). There, you can see
a photo of Johannesburg's Third Annual Lesbian and Gay Pride March.
Almost all the visible people are as Black as you are.
I can see you starting with: "Those were the white devils in SA! Pure
Africans are not Gay!" Don't make a more a fool out of you, than
absolutely necessary!

PMM> The question of homosexuality is one I am not comfortable addressing
PMM>on this newsgroup out of deference to those non whites who are gay and
PMM>post on here.

Hah?
Go ahead, you coward! Show us the can of worms in you!
Second, how do fit Black Gays in your oh-so-well-organised little world?
We are here, we are Black and Gay, AND Proud! Get used to it.
We won't go away or disappear by ignoring! And we are NOT afraid to
fight!!! Enough is enough!!!

PMM>or any other man for that matter. I do not hate homosexuals, I have
PMM>never known one, and given the fact that I will be going back to Africa
PMM>I will probably never know one.

If you do know 25 males, you do know at least one Gay. Of course, I
would not tell you that, after the things you were not afraid to say
here. YOU do not recognise Gays. That does not mean, they don't
exist. Gays are everywhere unseen (booooo!).

PMM>I know that homosex. is a European thing. It has been prevalent through
PMM>out Eropean history. It was rampant in Rome, Athens and Sodom. On the
PMM>other hand African civilizations, such as Egypt, Ghana etc are devoid of
PMM>it. Our relative circumstances have clearly not changed at all after all
PMM>this time.

Yawn.

PMM>BTW, believe what you want. I know the truth and that is enough for me.

And once you mean to have it, you stop thinking.

PMM>makala

greetinx, Carl.

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