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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1? (Why it may cost) READ THIS!!
From: CUNY/Spartacus <I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 28 Dec 1992 00:14:01 EST
 46@ulrik.uio.no><1992Dec14.175627.4452@unixland.natick.ma.us><OLAVT.92Dec15012734@ulrik.uio.no>
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <OLAVT.92Dec15012734@ulrik.uio.no>, olavt@ulrik.uio.no (Olav Torvund)
says:
>And I do not think that many users are really waiting for NT. They are
>curious, but that does not mean that they will buy it. And for us OS/2
>users, OS/2 is definitly not an in-between OS on our way to NT.
>
>Olav Torvund
>

Hm, I don't think so either.  Iately I've noticed a change in
attitude between some of the computer people I come in contact
with everyday.  Not to long ago I had CIS people tell me I
was nuts to go with OS/2, NT would be the new standard and
OS/2 wasn't even in their vocabulary.  Today those same people
are asking me questions about OS/2 and reading these newsgroups :)
Its kind of nice to say to some of the arrogant ones
at our school, "I told you so.  nyah nyah nyah :)"

Hmm, actually its not over yet.  IBM, please don't let us down!
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From: chris@cad.gatech.edu (Chris McClellen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Opinion:  What IBM should change in OS/2
Date: 29 Dec 1992 13:11:55 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
Distribution: world
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Those are some good suggestions.  I wish IBM would supply BETTER documentation
WITH OS/2.  I hate the online reference.  You basically only get to search
for topics you want help on.  Now, the REXX information thing is good,
but the rest of them are disjointed.  I would like to see printed
manuals distributed with OS/2, that are in a clear format.

One thing that annoys me about OS/2 is that I do not know all of the
settings that can be put in config.sys, and that I dont know what alot
of the utilities, and files are.  I try to look them up in all 
the references, and they don't exist.

I would like to know all the capabilities of the system without having
to order Redbooks.  Hell, DOS came with a manual.  I know OS/2 would
come with several, but so what?  One problem I had, and I am sure people
do have with it, is that when I go to program OS/2 with a PD compiler,
I end up writing 32bit DOS apps, because I dont know what the system
can exactly offer me.  I know alot more now than I did when I first
got 2.0, but still... I expect good documentation to come with the OS.
If they would put togther some manuals that are in arranged in
an organized fashion, people could know the true power of OS/2.

Untilk that day, I have to get redbooks, etc, to read about OS/2
to see what it can do for me, etc, when those kinds of books should have
come with the OS.  Its really annoying to learn little facts about OS2
that arent in the online ref., etc, from other people, when I should
have been able to read some manuals and know it.  The online ref
manual is not in a clear format either.  But, I prefer printed material
to sitting on my computer trying to make sense of the format that
they presented the stuff.
From: jfarley@eis.calstate.edu (John Roger Farley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Second IDE drive
Date: 27 Dec 92 18:40:54 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

Recently I bought a second IDE drive for my system.  My
original drive was a Seagate 1144a 130mb.  The new drive is
a Seagate 3144a 130mb.

Originally the first drive had three partitions on it.  Boot
Manager, DOS 5.0 FAT, and OS/2 HPFS.  The FAT was designated
C: and D: was used for the HPFS.  OS/2 had been installed on
the HPFS and all references in the setup were for the D:
drive.

To check out the new drive I installed it as the only hard
drive and formatted it by using DOS 5.0.  Then I installing
it as the second drive and set the jumpers for it to be the
slave.  Upon starting the system I found the following
setup:

   drive1   BM,  C:FAT,  E:HPFS(OS/2 system)
   drive2   D:

Naturally OS/2 would not start since the config.sys was
looking for the system to be installed on D:.

Using the original installation disks, the third of which
was modified with the post service pack HPFS fix, I booted
the OS/2 system and proceeded to format the second drive as
HPFS.  I referenced the system files installed on my first
drive to do the formatting.

At this point I was not sure what to do so I played around
with FDISK.  The net result was that the drive letters were
changed so that the following resulted without the loss of
any data:

   drive1  BM,  C:FAT,  D:HPFS(OS/2 system)
   drive2  E:HPFS

The system now started.  But not willing to leave well
enough alone my new goal was to make the first drive all FAT
and my second drive all HPFS which would contain the OS/2
system.  My goal was to do this without loosing my
configuration.  I decided to use XCOPY, FDISK and then
reformat my first drive.  It worked!  My current setup looks
like this:

   drive1  BM,  C:FAT
   drive2  D:HPFS(OS/2 system)

I was surprised that XCOPY with the appropriate command
line switches would do the job.  I have read so much about
extended attributes with respect to the Work Place Shell
that I was expecting to have some problems.  Everything is
working perfectly!


John R. Farley
jfarley@eis.calstate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: riehm@maccs.mcmaster.ca (Carl Riehm)
Subject: How do I copy text to the clipboard???
Organization: McMaster University, Dept. of Mathematics and Statistics
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 20:17:38 GMT

I've just begun to use OS/2, and can't figure out how to copy text to the 
clipboard - for example suppose that I'm viewing a file, such as the help
file,.....   Also in a DOS screen?  Help please!   Carl Riehm.

P.S. In the manual it talks about bringing up a pop-up menu, and then clicking
on the arrow to the left of "Window", and then choose Mark. I have yet to find
any pop-up window with this choice there....   C.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jacobs@cs.utah.edu (Steven R Jacobs)
Subject: Re: trident 1024X768 and winos2
In-reply-to: 's message of Wed, 30 Dec 1992 09:44:04 EST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Date: 30 Dec 92 09:54:02

In article <92365.094404JAM135@psuvm.psu.edu> <JAM135@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> I have a trident 8900C setup at 1024X768X256 colors.  I used the
> 32 bit drivers from ftp-os2 that was dated 12/17/92.  Everything
> seems to work fine (a little slow) except I can't run any windows
> programs.  There is a beep everytime I try to run them.  When I
> try starting winos2 I get the same thing.  I tried starting winos2
> from a dos window and received the message "Fatal Exit code = 0x0401."
> I followed the installation procedures and even tried installing the
> update again.  I would appreciate any help with this.

I had this same problem.  It was because I hadn't copied the WSPDBF.DRV
and WSPDSBF.DRV files to OS2\MDOS\WINOS2\SYSTEM.
--
Steve Jacobs  ({bellcore,hplabs,uunet}!utah-cs!jacobs, jacobs@cs.utah.edu)
"Don't worry, I just have these harmless pocket rockets...."
From: rpfaff@umiacs.umd.edu (Ray Pfaff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Terminator 2029 and Task Force 1942
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:51:31 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

Does anyone know how to get either of these games to work?  Ter-
minator dies completely. I talked to Bethesda Softworks and the 
technical support said it will not run, but to be perfectly honest
I think he just didn't understand what I was talking about.
I've been trying to get on to Microprose's technical support 
line for the last hour using an autodialer with no luck. 
Task Force 1942 just runs very slowly, but runs. Is any
body out there as tired as am of one technical support line that's
constantly busy, but no problem ever calling up an order line?
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: g1nickut@cdf.toronto.edu (Nick Zahariadis)
Subject: Re: "IBM is listening." How?  (was Re: IBM won't accept Internet...)
Keywords: IBM problem report compuserve cis
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Disciplines Facility
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:29:48 GMT

 gershon@husc11.harvard.edu (Ethan Gershon) writes:
>dwl@watson.ibm.com (David W. Levine) writes:
>>The good news is
>>that your complaints are getting very direct, unfiltered exposure to
>>the people who can fix it.  
>>David W. Levine --  dwl@watson.ibm.com -- IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center
>>                   -- My Opinions, IBM's hardware. -- 
>>"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your
>>aim" - George Santayana  
>
>I am very glad to hear this.  But what exactly do you mean?  Do the
>programmers of OS/2 read this group?  If so, why don't we ever hear
>from them?  Even if not them, then someone else.  It would be nice

 OK, let's just be a bit fair here though. We have seen posts here at 
 comp.os.os2.misc. The credits screen of GA lists BJ Hargrave as one of 
 the people involved in the development of OS/2 and he/she has posted a few 
 highly-technical responses to queries, i.e. 'What is PaulDev?' On the 
 other hand, I do agree that a little bit more presence from IBM techical 
 gurus and decision-makers wouldn't hurt at all. On the contrary, it
 would make our time more valuable. (What about their time?) 

>once in a while to know what involved people think of all our "OS/2
>should do this" and "why does/doesn't OS/2 do that?" comments.  As I
>have said here before, it would be encouraging to IBM's sophisticated
>customers (sophisticated == serious enough about computers in general
>and OS/2 in particular to read this group or similar groups on CI$) to
>know that they are listening.  Assigning some people to maintain an
>"official" presence on these groups would be good for customer
>confidence.  (Hiring Mr. Timothy Sipples full time to do this would
>be a good start... :-)

 It is awfully nice though to know that Mr. Soyring actually takes time
 away from what I believe to be a very challenging carrer, i.e. squarring
 off with a monopoly, and listens in on the needs of IBM's paying
 customers.
 
>                                             --Ethan Gershon
>                                             gershon@husc.harvard.edu

 Nick.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"Always put off until tomorrow what you are sure 
 to mess up beyond repair today."
Nick Zahariadis    e-mail: g1nickut@cdf.utoronto.ca
From: Drew.Veliath@f347.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Drew Veliath)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: multiple DOS windows, how?
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 22:18:56 -0500

 
 JZ> I have been using OS/2 for several months. There is 
 JZ> still one question which
 JZ> I am afraid of asking: how can I open more than two 
 JZ> DOS (or OS/2) windows?
 JZ> Creating shadows all points to the same (ONE) 
 JZ> session. Can anyone help?
 
I think I know what you are saying, what I'd do is either make a Copy of the
object, or if that doesn't work, go into the settings of the object and change
the setting for opening the object from "point to existing occurrence" to
"create new window."  That is paraphrased, but if you look through the pages of
the settings, you will find it.
 
Drew
From: friesend@jester.usask.ca (Darryl Friesen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Bernoulli drives that work with OS/2
Date: 2 Jan 1993 23:03:48 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: jester.usask.ca
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]


Hi all.  I've got a question about bernoulli drives that I hope 
someone can answer.  I'm a little low on HD space, so I've been 
thinking about putting a second one in my machine.  Some of the 
guys at work suggested I look into bernoulli drives instead.  
What I was thinking then was having a cartridge for each OS 
(ie. one for OS/2 and one for DOS) and configuring the bernoulli 
drive as the boot device.  Is this possible and do bernoulli
drives have a fast enough access time to make this feasible for 
OS/2?  

Alternatively I could place either DOS or OS/2 on a cartridge 
(with the other installed on the HD) and use Boot Manager to boot 
DOS (say, on the HD) or OS/2 (installed on a bernoulli cartridge)
Any suggestions/criticisms on this idea?  

Lastly, are all bernoulli's created equal?  The only one I've seen
an add for is Iomega.  Who else makes bernoulli drives and are some
better for OS/2 (ie. are there some that will NOT work with OS/2 or
are there some that work better than others).

Any help/suggestions/sources of info would be greatly appreciated.

- Darryl

------------------------------------------------------------
Darryl Friesen            | Department of Computing Services
friesenda@sask.usask.ca   | University of Saskatchewan
------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: OS/2 b2.1 and Windows for Workgroups
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:40:38 GMT

I tried a rough-and-ready install of Windows for Workgroups on the OS/2 2.1
beta.
 
It got to the point where it wanted to start Windows in the full-screen DOS
session.....and crapped out leaving me with a DOS prompt. 
 
So...I deleted everything in the c:\os2\mdos\winos2 and ..\winos2\system
directories, then re-installed DOS and Win-OS/2 support.
 
Now my Win-OS/2 3.1 is broken. Looks like a full re-install: my wages for
mucking around :-)
 
The main reason for wanting to install Windows for workgroups is so I can play
Hearts on the LAN with the other guys....no other reason.
 
Steve :-)
 

 

-- 
Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | On Sept. 19th, 88% of NZ voters opted
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
+64 4 478 4714                          | looks like we may get a more  
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".
From: toy@soho.crd.ge.com (Raymond L. Toy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Using the system logger
Date: 31 Dec 92 02:08:03 GMT
Organization: GE Corp. Research & Development, Schenectady, NY


Funny, but I just started using the error logger just for kicks and I
now get EXACTLY the same error messages!  Can anyone enlighten us?
There doesn't seem to be anything amiss with the system though.

Ray
-- 
Ray -----> toy@soho.crd.ge.com
Toy -----> GE CR&D, KW-C407, 0x6270
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Cann't Increase EMS for DOS session, why?
Date: 27 Dec 92 16:58:28 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <zhao.725416293@unixg.ubc.ca> zhao@unixg.ubc.ca (Jiansheng Zhao) writes:
> 
> I have a 486/dx with 8 MB RAM. However, I couldn't increase EMS for
> a DOS program beyond about 3 MB by changing DOS setting for this program.
> (EMS_MEMORY_LIMIT=8196, for example).
> Am I correct to assume with virtual memory I can have as much EMS as I want?
> Thanks for any help.
> P.S. I was able to have EMS more than 5 MB on another machine with similar
> setup. There may be a trick I don't know.

How do you know it won't go higher than 3 megs? I have never seen this. You
should be able to set it for up 32Megs of EMS. It is only virtual, after all. 
How big is your swap file and how much free space have you got on your
swapping partition?
 
Steve
 
-- 
Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | On Sept. 19th, 88% of NZ voters opted
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
+64 4 478 4714                          | looks like we may get a more  
**** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr)
Subject: Re: Did microsoft really write an OS/2 "Terminator" crash prog?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, OH
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:20:44 GMT

In article <1hrga6INN2d0@access.usask.ca> lowey@jester.usask.ca (CrazyMan) writes:
>oecn_smith@mec.ohio.gov wrote:
>: In article <laird.725643909@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu>, laird@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) writes:
>: > shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr) writes:
>: > I'd sure love some simple security...
>: Hmmm, I must be simpleminded, but setting permission to read-only should keep
>: the casual user from doing to much harm.
>That will work.  Also, don't forget about the ALT-F1 trick when booting your
>computer.  That will copy the CONFIG.SYS, and .INI files from the /OS2/INSTALL
>directory back to the proper place.  So, if someone deleted CONFIG.SYS 
>you just ALT-F1 when you boot up, and it's back again.  

You're right.  That'd fix it up, alright.  But consider the setting:
Big, busy computer show.  Take some relatively unattended demo 
computers -- necessary if you want to attract people -- maybe I'm in
a class by myself, but I HATE having ill-informed, unsophisticated
sales reps hanging over me while I try out some interesting hardware
and software...  but I digress.  Now sabotage the demo computers at
every opportunity (but don't get caught) and a lot of people unfamiliar
with the product and no knowledge of how to resurrect it will come 
along and see your product dead or not at all.  This need not form a
negative opinion... it need only form NO opinion... after all, the 
users wouldn't see anything at all.  So even your most fair-minded
COMDEXer would be left no basis for an opinion.  If Microsoft is 
really so malicious, that would suit their purpose more than adequately.

Larry
-- 
Larry A. Shurr (las@cbnmva.att.com) speaking only for myself.
Norman, listen carefully.  I am lying.  Are you sure your circuits are
registering?  Your ears are green.  Logic is a little bird singing in a
meadow.  Logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad! - Mr. Spock
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Subject: Re: Need util to allow .EXE to run in a window
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 17:34:45 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.15 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In <20634@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> ez003045@hamlet.ucdavis.edu (James E. Lee) writes:
>Does anyone know why an os/2 cmd window will not switch to f/s and back
>using <alt>+<home>?  Is there a key combination that works?  Is it me?

Won't happen. It's because OS/2 full screen prompts have the ability to run
keyboard and screen monitors, which cannot run in the PM session. This is
from the original days of 1.1 (when PM was first introduced) and will
probably remain a limitation.

Cliff Nadler
IBM Federal Systems Company

Note: This post represents the views of the poster, not those of IBM or the
      IBM Federal Systems Company
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: ygg6647@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Youren  Guo)
Subject: How to set these colors in OS/2?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:11:56 GMT

Could anyone tell me how to set the color for the following area in OS/2? 

	e.g. in Master Index there are those little tabs look like
	bookmarks (I'm not sure what the name is for these little things).

I'd like to set the fore/background colors for these litte things,
since when I changed colors for some other parts I couldn't see the 
letters on those little tabs.

I tried using color palette and color scheme, but I couldn't set the 
colors (maybe because I don't know the name for these little things).

Anyone has any ideas?   Thanks!

-- 
Youren Guo		University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
y-guo@uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: IDE & Future Domain SCSI II controller in OS/2 2.0?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:37:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan1.081822.25449@krk.fi> malinen@krk.fi (Mikko Malinen) writes:
>i'd like to know how Future Domain SCSI II controller behaves in OS/2 2.0
>with IDE drives. Is there any problems i may encounter in installing Future
>Domain controller in machine for tape drive beside my IDE drives.
> My hardware follows:
>486/33 mhz ISA PC (OPTi Chipset with AMI 07/07/91 bios)
>Boca XVGA SuperVGA adapter
>8 mb memory
>Western Digital Piranha WD4200 (210 mb), and ST1239A (210 mb) both IDE drives.
>OS/2 2.0.1 (UK), DOS 5.0

No problems.  Future Domain adapters are natively supported by OS/2.
Just make sure you have the appropriate BASEDEV lines in your
CONFIG.SYS (per the instructions in the README file), and you should
be fine.

-- 
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sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.)
Subject: Re: AHA-1542B, AHA-1542BK, or AHA-1542B+?
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:36:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Dec23.211025.15936@nwra.com> dona@nwra.com (Dona) writes:

>Just a reminder -- Adaptec has announced their 1542C, to ship in January.

#%$*@!  You're kidding, right?  I *just* upgraded to my 1542B two days ago.

>You might want to wait a week!

I might want to shoot might, instead.  :)

Cheers,
Q  - Happy holidays to everyone!
-- 
"If you choose not to decide, you  | "My other body is in the shop" - seen
 still have made a choice" - Rush  |  on a T-shirt
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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SCSI Adapter Question
Date: 1 Jan 93 23:24:22 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <31DEC199209405115@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> smbrush@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Andy Brush @Sverdrup) writes:
>I am evaluating two quotes for new computer systems forrunning OS/2.  I 
>need to know if the following SCSI adapters are known to be OS/2 compatible
>:
>1) "Allways Technology" 16-bit SCSI adapter, quoted by Compudyne
>2) "Ultrastor 32F" 32-bit VESA SCSI adapter, quoted by Gateway
>Thanks in advance for any information you can provide.

Well, they are both compatible for hard drives, but they are not the
best choices.

Specify Adaptec, Future Domain, Trantor, or BusTek and you should be
just fine.

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