From: archmage@milton.u.washington.edu (Michael Bakkemo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan RB's Was: Re: Heisman Poll Update
Keywords: here we go again...
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:48:07 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Jul28.134507.16151@walter.bellcore.com> kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:

[blatently ingnoring the fact that it was mainly a reply to the debate over
 whether or not Elvis is a water buffalo]

>In article <1992Jul28.035347.26298@u.washington.edu>, archmage@milton.u.washington.edu (Michael Bakkemo) writes:
>|> 
>|> Again, for lack of better instructional evidence, look at the Rose Bowl,
>|> when they "sort of" played head to head. Tell me, who did better?
>
>I can't believe this is the third time I'm getting into this with yet 
>another Washington fan, but here goes :
>
>Another Washington fan commented back in April:
>## how will he [Desmond] handle the pros if he couldn't even handle the 
>## Huskies' defense in the Rose Bowl?

Just fine probably. You never had any argument from ME on that count.
I never said he wasn't a good reciever. Why bring it up?

>I think it was more Michigan's offensive line not being able to handle
>Washington's defense more than Desmond not handling the defense.  Elvis
>barely had time to get Desmond (or any receivers for that matter) the ball
>the way the Washington defensive line was rushing in.  I don't want to
>rehash through stuff I already said back in January, but you are bringing
>up something that was not as much Desmond's fault as it was the offensive
>line's.  I don't remember Desmond dropping passes in that game, but I do
>remember him not getting as many passes as he did in games during the regular
>season because Elvis was rushed all day and he was himself double covered.  
>Both contributed.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[pertinent perhaps to the water buffalo thread]

>Still, I do remember an impressive catch in the first half when he jumped
>over 2 Washington defenders to make a catch to put Michigan into scoring
>range.  That was one of the rare times Elvis got the ball to him, and
>even then, it was a forced pass that mostly was completed because of
>Desmond's leaping ability.

Completely off topic but I can't resist getting drawn into this stupid
Desmond debate again... Be truthfull, I was there, it was over one DB
(Dana Hall) with one other DB nearby, and it was the only time Elvis
got him the ball in the air. (you may or may not be happy to note that
I was amazed at this catch.)


>To imply that Desmond and Mario even "'sort of' played head to head" is
>laughable.  Unless you consider the defensive performances by both teams
>roughly equivalent, and I certainly don't.

This is annoying...Don't you think I know that...obviously not...what then
pray tell do YOU think the quotes were for?


>|> The problem I think you'll find on the part of DAWG fans, isn't dogmatic
>|> inflexibilty in the Desmond vs Mario debate, it's that lack of anyone 
>|> giving Mario his due.
>
>Yeah, no respect at all, from ANYONE even.  Right...
>

I truely stand corrected in my statement by meticulous application of the
rules of grammer. Of course some people give him respect. I should
never have said "anyone" and should have instead written "a perceived many"

Happy?

p.s. I don't really care about the Desmond debate and didn't what to start
the thread again, so please refrain from continuing this one.