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From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Quadra 950/19", GC Also?
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:57:37 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Dec16.130722.8410@pcnntp.apple.com> Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.031518.16936@eng.umd.edu> russotto@eng.umd.edu 
>(Matthew T. Russotto) writes:
>> Is there any documentation for the display chip on the Quadras and the
>> 8*24 and 8*24GC cards?
>
>Nothing that Apple releases to the general public (or even most 
>developers, too, I believe).

OK, so who do I have to pretend to be to get it :-)

("Hello, this is Joeseph Schmoe from Microsoft.  Mr. Gates says that
if you don't send us all your documentation on your display chips,
he'll withdraw all his software from the Macintosh market" :-) :-) )
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From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.intel
Subject: Re: 486 vs. Mac Benchmarks
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:35:17 GMT
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Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Dec11.023321.28211@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> jess@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Jess M Holle) writes:

>Additionally, Mac networks are generally MUCH less headaches than PC networks.
>Novell networks are nicer, for instance, but when one goes down, OUCH, what
>a headache!

Surprise! What do you think we use here for our Mac networking? Novell!
Its Ethertalk NLM is one of the better Appletalk servers around. On a 
local network its reasonably fast. 

Now throw in a few Macs running System 7 on a remote subnet. Or even a 
Novell server on a remote subnet. Want to see slow? Try running anything. 
On a bad day (or the wrong server) it can take MINUTES to MOVE A WINDOW!



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From: bszeto@netcom.com (Bailey Szeto)
Subject: Re: 8.24GC, anyone?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:15:34 GMT

Hello Everyone.
Can somebody summarize whats wrong with the 8.24GC card? I've been considering
it, but it seems to be a buggy product. Is this true?

Thanks.
bszeto@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: Joe_D._Ciarcia@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:28:15 EST
Subject: Re: LaserWriter sucks up Cat

Cats will be cats.... My harmony instructors cat sits on top of his laser
printer while it's printing and bats at the pages while they come out!!!!  Joe
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From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PowerBook Tuner "On again" ??? (was Re: PB100 Serial Port Problem)
Date: 15 Dec 1992 01:09:56 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu

 louislam@iastate.edu (Louis C Lam) writes:
>When I connect a 14.4kbps V.32bis modem to the printer port of my pb100,
>I often get hung up in the middle of a transfer. Many people on the net
>told me that this is a problem associated with the PB100's power manager.
>I called 1-800-SOS-APPL today and they confirmed this is a known problem
>and they are preparing a fix in the form of an System Extension, but there's
>no expected release date.  So keep waiting!

	oh ?!?  it's "on again" ???

	I would like to know more about that.  Originally, I had been told
	that PowerBook Tuner would be released as a (free) fix of OS 7.0.x. 

	after 7.1 was released (and I asked "what about releasing the Tuner")
	I was told (about as officially as one can, "unofficially") that "the
	problem is fixed in 7.1 and we do not fix bugs in outdated OSes".

	Fine, I said, you can expect me to raise hell about it not being
	a free upgrade ...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:22:45 -0500 
From: Faisal Nameer Jawdat <fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: P5 v. PowerPC (WAS: Where the mac really wins)
	<tim-141292101456@129.38.222.43>

Faisal Nameer Jawdat (fj05@andrew.cmu.edu) write:
> The Alpha doesn't have to emulate anything to run OSF or VMS because
> unix is hardware independent, while VMS only runs on the VAX
> instruction set, which the Alpha implements a superset of.

Whoops, just checked that one. Wrong.  Just very easy to port/emulate
software on it.  But this porting/emulation capability is optimized
for the vax/vms instruction set, so advantages might not be as great
on other architectures...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: eepmatt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Matthew Friedman)
Subject: Re: IIsi 25MHz, how to do it ?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:11:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.172241.21452@athena.mit.edu> rajiv@athena.mit.edu (Rajiv A Manglani) writes:
>I think this should be posted on the net. Whoever has the instructions, please
>post them to comp.sys.mac.hardware.

I just posted that here not five days ago... tell you what- anyone who wants a
copy drop me an email and we'll do it that way as opposed to posting it once a
week and wasting bandwidth.

Happy Holidays,
Matt
From: paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: RasterOps 24STV vs. Spigot pro
Date: 11 Dec 92 01:20:29 GMT
Organization: Taniwha Systems Design

In article <1992Dec04.095535.61694@fourd.com> Michael_D._Murie@fourd.com writes:
*From: Homayoon Akhiani,akhiani@ricks.enet.dec.com

*> Note that Spigot Pro (from what I heard) has a 24bit display card too.

*> I like to use the board in IIsi, but I am not sure if IIsi Nubus+Space in
*> IIsi allows the daugther card expansions. RasterOps's 800 number wasn't any
*> help either. 

*The problem with the Spigot Pro is that it is a bundling of the Spigot with a
*24bit display card. That means there are *two* NuBus cards in the package. You
*won't be able to use them both in your IIsi at the same time.

There is a 'SI version of the 'SpigotPro that is esecially designed to get
around this problem, it's an 'SI direct slot connector designed to hold
both a 'Spigot and a 24-bit accelerated  video card (13"@24-bit, 21"@8-bits)
at the same time.

And of course they are made by SuperMac, not RasterOps ...

	Paul


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: te@uwasa.fi (Tuomas Eerola)
Subject: Re: Power light on IIsi not working
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:17:21 GMT

In article <h6j24==@rpi.edu> anderj2@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Jason Anderson) writes:
>
>Hello,
>
>I have had a IIsi for almost a year now.  Just recently I noticed that the 
>power light on the computer went out.  Later, while the computer was still on,
>it came back on.  Finaly, it went out and stayed out until I turned it off.
>The next time I powered up the computer the light came on.  Is this a known
>problem with the IIsi?  I realize that the power light serves no real function,
>but I get nervous when things like this happen.
>Jason

This is known "problem" with IIsi. It has also something to do with speaker
sometimes getting quiet. It is a connector under motherboard. If you take
your hard drive away you can see it, take speaker out and clean connectors.

Tuomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Distribution: world
From: Mark_E._Hanson@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 15:20:43 EST
Subject: Re: I got it!

The performa system automatically hides all other apps, so if you go to the
application menu, then it will be able to change, or at least thats how it is
with 7.0.1p
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From: kemp@convex.com (Phil Kemp)
Subject: Re: Connecting a SCSI bus PC CD-ROM player to Mac IIci (CAN WE???)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:03:51 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <harry.723910954@puff.socsci.umn.edu> harry@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (Kuo-Chen Chang) writes:

>Hi, netters!
> 
>I just got a NEC FUSION CD-ROM Drive from our local BizMart.  It works
>very well undr DOS and WINDOWS.  I am very happy with this bundle.  Now
>here is my question.  Since I have a Mac IIci sitting side by side with
>my 486DX2-66, and the NEC drive comes with SCSI bus.  Is it possible for
>me to connect this drive to Mac through a SCSI cable?  Or I should ask,
>what's the difference between a CD_ROM player for PC and the one for Mac,
>if both use SCSI bus?
> 
>Surely, I would like to hook this NEC to Mac and that'll save me about $400.00
>in getting a CD-ROM for Mac.  Many thanks in advance.
> 

You can in fact hook the cd-rom up. The scsi bus will see it but you
need to buy the software so the mac can talk to the CD-ROM. I
purchased the Trantor CD-Rom drivers from Megahaus in Houston. 

Megahaus
1110 Nasa Rd. One, suite 306
Houston, Tx. 77058
(713)-333-1944.

They also have an 800 number but I couldn't find it. You can buy the
drivers direct from Trantor as well. Megahaus price, 69.00.

They work great!!

BTW, maybe this should make it into the FAQ??
PK


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jgraham@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (the End)
Subject: Re: Mac SE/30.
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:10:51 GMT


I don't know, but I'd guess "It ain't no SE/30" as the subject line alludes,
with all the "Apple Crippling" going on.

This complex branching of the product line really sucks. How about a 
return to a straight forward progression of features and price 
(128, 512, Plus, SE, SE/30). Two steps forward and one step back is no
way to make progress.

Jim
J. Graham
From: rasp@xlnt.com (Ron Perloff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Help!: Mac+ SCSI problems
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:12:46 GMT
Organization: xdi

In article <3_800_828.99A743CC2A@Kralizec.fido.zeta.org.au>
geoff.peters@p99.f828.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Geoff Peters) writes:
>
>I have a platinum Mac Plus and four external Quantum HD chambers (two Pro
>80-S's, a Pro-105-S and a Pro-170S, all formatted with Silver Lining 5.4). A
>lot of storage space for a Plus, I'll admit, but the catch is I can only use
>two of the drives at once. If I try and connect any more, the Mac+ won't
>even pass the initial POST! After the first grey screen comes up and clears,
>the screen goes black, then there's a 3-5 second pause, then I get stricken
>with a case of "screaming woodgrain". Not nice.
>
>I've removed all internal terminators, and am using Apple brand external
>terminators and cables, and the SCSI net is wired correctly to the best of
>my knowledge:
>
>      Mac+ ->->-> term. -> 170 ->->-> HD ->->-> HD -> term.
>
>.... will not work, whereas ...
>
>      Mac+ ->->-> term. -> 170 ->->-> HD -> term.
>
>.... will work.

As busses go, SCSI is relatively temperamental. Apple's treatment of
it with their 25 pin connector exacerbates the problem. SCSI 'wants'
to be carried on wire pairs of signal and ground. Apple threw away
the 'redundant' grounds in order to use a connector that took up
less panel space. Since SCSI also wants to be terminated at the extreme
ends, Apple makes matters even worse by not including termination
inside the Mac.

If you have a 'good' cable from your Mac to your first drive,
i.e. one that carries the signals as twisted pairs and then
ties all the grounds together at the 25 pin connector end, you
should have relatively good luck. If you have a lower quality
cable that carries only 25 wires the entire way, you can easily
have the kind of problem you describe.

I suggest you use the shortest possible, highest quality cable
you can get for connecting the Mac to the first drive. Try to
keep all the other cables short, too. Using a very short first
cable also gets that termination closer to the end of the string.
>
>If I try and be sneaky and work on a live SCSI bus (don't try this at home,
>kiddies), i.e. boot with 2 HDs and try to add a third, the boot volume
>vanishes and SCSI info and SCSI Tools both say "bus not terminated".

Please do not do this. You WILL fry something.

Best of luck,

Ron

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,com.sys.mac.misc
From: rajiv@athena.mit.edu (Rajiv A Manglani)
Subject: Re: 8.24GC, anyone?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:43:53 GMT

In article <BzBpy1.98y@andy.bgsu.edu>, sevans@andy.bgsu.edu (Stephen W. Evans) writes:

|> Under system 7.xn the 8*24GC sucks the big wonz in the performance department.
|> Frankly it slows down any graphic operations in any mode other than 24bit and
|> also tends to turn off the 68030's internal cacheing (although there is 
|> a startup program called cachebit to turn this back on)

Do you have the new GC control panel (version 7.0.1)? It fixes this problem!

Rajiv
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.intel
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Subject: Re: Where the mac really wins
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:26:40 GMT

In article <oZTeVB10w165w@hale.cts.com> god@hale.cts.com (David J. Calabrese) writes:

>I know the PC has a version of Page Maker for Windows, but it
>kinda sucks compared to the Mac version.  Under a deadline
>heavy production environment, any ad company would be forced to
>buy the Macintosh product.

Have you ever used it? The two are feature-for-feature identical. 
It even runs faster on the PC and looks nicer (SVGA vs. Mac 640x
480) given the same amount of money for hardware.





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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: r81185@cctwin.ee.ntu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Need Info about ordering Lapis PDS30
Organization: NTUTaiwan
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:12:44 GMT

Hi,

I want to buy a color monitor for my SE/30. And I decide to use Lapis
Colorserver PDS30 series card. Does anyone know how can I mail-order it?

Thanks in advance.

Bow-Yaw Wang

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From: jimmosk@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jim J Moskowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Dead Mouse II: the Sequel
Date: 12 Dec 92 06:11:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

...although unlike film sequels, I think this may be more interesting than
the original (it certainly is frustrating enough!)

My SE has occasionally been freezing on startup, just before inits get loaded.
Also, the mouse and keyboard will occasionally stop working, though the mac
itself keeps going.  I found I could solve the problem by bending the mouse
cord a certain way, but before I bought a replacement mouse I investigated
a little more and found that the mouse worked fine on a different mac (this 
one a IIci) regardless of the mousecord position.  Hmm... I borrowed another
mouse, and had the same problem happen, down to the same bend.  Which made
me think that the real problem was in the mouse _port_, and bending the cable
was really just bending the port the right way.  Except regardless of which
port the mouse is in, whether it goes through the keyboard or directly into
the mac, even using a different keyboard, the problem persists.
Any ideas on what might be happenning?

Perplexedly,
Jim

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From: sal@grip.cis.upenn.edu (Marcos Salganicoff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: AppleTalk/ LocalTalk PC Compatible Boards and HP Deskwriter.
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:50:31 GMT
Organization: Grasp Lab


Are  there some good and cheap <= $100 boards and appletalk (tm) drivers for
IBM PC and compats?

I'm  looking to try and get a PC onto an appletalk network with an HP deskwriter,
and the cheapest (and only) localtalk card I've seen is $200.


Any leads would be appreciated,

Marcos Salganicoff
GRASP
Univ. of Pennsylvania
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From: coolidge@sirius.aux.apple.com (John L. Coolidge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: P5 v. PowerPC (WAS: Where the mac really wins)
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:52:02 GMT
Reply-To: coolidge@apple.com
Organization: Open Systems Development, Porting&I/O Group, Apple Computer, Inc.,Summary:

fj05+@andrew.cmu.edu (Faisal Nameer Jawdat) writes:
>wagner@grace.math.uh.edu (David Wagner) writes:
>> This is just my two bits, and it is said in hindsight, but if Apple were
>> to make this kind of arrangement today, I would say that they ought
>> to use the Alpha chip.  From what I know of it, (which ain't all that
>> much) it seems ideal for emulations.  If it can run OSF and VMS, then
>> (IMHO) it ought to be able to do `Mac' and MC680XX pretty well.  Of
>> course then we'd all have to be 64-bit clean, I guess.

>The Alpha doesn't have to emulate anything to run OSF or VMS because
>unix is hardware independent, while VMS only runs on the VAX
>instruction set, which the Alpha implements a superset of.

To echo what another poster said, the Alpha does not implement
anything like a superset of the VAX instruction set. It's a completely
new architecture. There are a few things thrown in which make
implementing some VAX features somewhat easier, but not that much.

The Alpha doesn't run VMS, either. It runs OpenVMS, which is a port of
VMS to the Alpha architecture. It doesn't emulate existing VAX-based
VMS code (nor does it emulate VAX or MIPS-based Ultrix code).

However, the Alpha probably could have a pretty good MC680x0 emulator
(and a good 80x86 emulator). It's a nice fast chip; you could probably
do pure emulation (no recompiled toolbox code, etc) at about Q700
performance. However, as I said in an earlier point, I doubt Apple
would be at all interested in the current generation of Alpha chips --
they cost way too much for PC's. Most likely DEC couldn't hit the
price point needed for PC's any sooner than Apple/IBM/Motorola will
with the PowerPC family, and they might wind up running slower anyway.

--John

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: takrewso@sacam.OREN.ORTN.EDU (thomas a krewson)
Subject: Re: MAC PLUS SCREEN PROBLEMS
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:13:30 GMT

Daniel_J._Wartko@uu0570.foggybottom.com wrote:
: HELP!!
: 
: I've been having problems with my Mac Plus screen.  It's got what we all get
: when we age, I guess.  Shrinkage and the shakes.
: 
: The shrinkage can be fixed through steps already posted here (internal
: adjustments with a non-conducting screwdriver), but what about the DT's that
: my poor ol' Mac has developed?
: 
: The screen flickers, gets bright lines through it and pulses a little.  Or a
: lot.  A good smack or two on the side (Mac abuse!), but this is really no way
: to live.  Can anyone suggest an easy or cheap way to fix this?  Any help is
: greatly appreciated!  My waranty has expired (2 years ago), so no free help
: from Apple.  Are there any coverage policies (like AppleCare*) that are worth
: buying?
: 
: While I'm at it, if I add more memory, will this affect the power going to the
: screen, and if so, is there any remedy I can take.
: 
:                          Thanks, 
:                            Dan Wartko
:                             Arlington, VA
: Foggy Bottom - your FirstClass Mac connection in Washington, DC
: 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: tomj@pnet16.cts.com (Tom Jenkins)
Subject: SE/30 screen's bright, then dim?
Organization: People-Net [pnet16], NCTAMS EASTPAC
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:36:06 GMT

Over the last few months, whenever I turn on the SE/30, the screen seems to be
fairly bright, then after a few minutes, will return back to normal.   Is this
some component heating up?

--Tom

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: russotto@eng.umd.edu (Matthew T. Russotto)
Subject: Re: THE FINAL WORD IN THE MAC vs PC BATTLE....
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 00:52:52 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Keywords: mac pc battle comparisions

In article <wondertr.724477171@sfu.ca> wondertr@fraser.sfu.ca (wondertree learning center) writes:
>I will end this discussion once and for all.
>
>The best machine is the one that makes you the most MONEY!!

In that case, I'm getting myself a very good printing press...... :-)

(To all you treasury types:  Learn to take a joke....)

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