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From: cthorne@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Charles E Thorne)
Subject: Re: What to do in Columbus, Ohio
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:17:41 GMT

In article <1127@my.sm.luth.se> pirkko@sm.luth.se (Pirkko T|yr{) writes:
>I'm planning to stay a few days in Columbus in the end of April.
>I would like to know what to do in Columbus:museums, restaurants, theatres,
>concerts(classic, jazz) and so on. Places of interest nearby Columbus.
>Do you know any good bookstores in Columbus?

Columbus is a metropolitan area of over 1 million people, and the capital
of the state.  There are numerous museums comprable with what cities of
this size usually have.  In the downtown area there is the Columbus Museum
of Art.  In the State Fairground area there is the Ohio State Historical
Museum which features Ohio from prehistoric days forward.  Presently there
is a downtown Columbus exhibit.

Also in the downtown area there is the Players theatre which just moved into
the State Office Tower and will probably have a professional production going
on when you're here.  There is also a "CATCO" theatre in the general vicinity
as well as Theatre from Ohio State.  Almost any hotel would have publications
showing what's available.

In the restaurant area, you can find almost anything (but not late at night).
Columbus closes much earlier than most large cities, so don't expect a good
restaurant to be open at midnight.

The Columbus Symphony orchestra has numerous and frequent productions (if they
end their strike) and many restaurants feature more intimate productions.

The Wexner Center at Ohio State probably will also have exhibits open when
you're in town.

Just ask around in the hotels, and if the first person you ask doesn't know,
keep asking.
From: gosula@iris.ucdavis.edu (Gosula Venkata RAJAsekhara Reddy)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Classical Guitar stuff in Spain
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:20:11 GMT
Reply-To: gosula@iris.ucdavis.edu (Gosula Venkata RAJAsekhara Reddy)
Organization: U.C. Davis - Department of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science


I am posting this for a friend of mine, so PLEASE do not
use reply or forward, use his email address:
	vkk@isi.com
I will  not be forwarding responses to him.
message:
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Hi. If people have any opinions on Spain, Morocco i'd like to hear
them. 
I have decided some of the places i'm going to like Granada, Seville,
Barcelona. However, i am open to advice. I was considering Galicia 
but in 2wks odd, i don't know how much i can cover. Also, i'm a
classical
guitarist and therefore have deep interest in the music. So if anybody
out there knows about where to go for that kind of stuff please let
me know. Thanks.

Vinay Krishnaswamy
Integrated Systems, Inc.
(408) 980-1500 x513
vkk@isi.com
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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Is a Eurail Pass really worth it????
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:56:00 GMT
Organization: UMass/Boston

I am over 27 and have to buy first-class Eurail Passes. The
first-class pass is $430 for two weeks, $550 for three weeks. 
  Now, that seems like an AWFUL lot of money, since I could buy
second-class tickets. I will be making a loop from Amsterdam down
through parts of Germany to Austria and Switzerland (and might try to
get to Venice for a day) then up to Paris. I think the trip to Paris
is expensive. I also think I might not get this far in two weeks! 
   Is the Eurail pass THAT much more efficient, so that it is worth it
to trade money for convenience? I will go to the Square today and look
for the book on Eurail proces which a couple of folks emailed me about
(sorry for the delays in response! It has been weird here)
    I'd like to solicit opinions from people on whether or not you
felt you got your money's worth from your train pass. Was it first
or second class? Did you figure out how much your trip would have cost
without the pass? And, has anyone here tried a Flexi-Pass?
  thanks, Betsy
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From: jl+@CS.CMU.EDU (Juan Leon)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: AMEX on USAir
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:47:57 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University


  I've heard a number of times that it is possible to use the American Express
Student vouchers on USAir.  I'd like to do just that.  I also remember 
someone posting a USAir promotion code that was the key to this, since
many reservations agents did not know about it.  Does anyone have this
code or anything that might help me get through?

Thanks,

Juan
From: elsworth@hekla.pnge.psu.edu (Derek Elsworth)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: luggage storage?
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:31:10 GMT
Organization: PSU Petroleum Engineering

In article <1992Apr14.172102.8171@u.washington.edu> geof@u.washington.edu writes:
>I will soon be making a trip:
>Seattle-Glasgow-London-Casablanca-London-Seattle
>which begins with a two-week business meeting in Glasgow.  Afterwards,
>I'll be bumming around Morocco with a backpack.  So I have to
>store my business clothes & papers somewhere for 10-15 days while
>I travel in Morocco since I certainly don't want to lug it all around
>with me.  Where can I do this?  Could I store the stuff in London
>or Casablanca at the airport?  (But aren't most airport storage lockers
>very short-term deals?)  Other suggestions?
>

Either mail it to your address in Seattle or send it "Poste Restante"
to yourself at a post office in London. That way you can pick it up
when you pass through on the return trip. For Heathrow, find the 
closest post office (Hounslow, Middlesex), and send it Poste
Restante.

Good luck......Derek Elsworth.
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From: thomson@hub.toronto.edu (Brian Thomson)
Subject: Re: Things to do in Vancouver
Organization: University of Toronto
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:11:30 GMT

In article <neilg.702456921@sfu.ca> neilg@fraser.sfu.ca (Neil K. Guy) writes:
 [ view from the top of Grouse Mountain ]
> The view from the top and from various points along the way is kind of
>nice. There's not much at the top - touristy junk like an expensive
>restaurant and a silly "multimedia" movie theatre. But the view *is*
>nice on a clear day. Particularly the morning after a windy night.

My wife and I did this in late June a couple of years ago.
There were patches of snow under the trees, and we saw a family of
deer wandering among the idle lift towers.  Quite a pleasant day,
and a spectacular view of the downtown core of the city we had left, oh,
40 minutes earlier.
-- 
		    Brian Thomson,	    CSRI Univ. of Toronto
		    utcsri!uthub!thomson, thomson@hub.toronto.edu
From: jbutterf@mal-s1.gatech.edu (Jill Butterfield)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: New Orleans in July
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:35:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Res. Inst., Modeling & Analysis Lab

I will be in New Orleans for a convention (barbershop singers) for
5 days (June 30 - July 5). I will have a few evenings and afternoons
for sightseeing. I need recommendations for things to do (won't have 
a car, we're taking the train to NO) and places to eat. We are
staying at the Fairmont Hotel, which looks like it's right at the 
end of Bourbon Street.

Thanks!
Jill
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Georgia Institute of Technology, GTRI Modeling and Analysis Lab
"Happiness is excitement that has found a settling down place..."
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From: Human Rights Coordinator <hrcoord@igc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Date: 11 Apr 92 09:00 PDT
Subject: Going to Crete
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1460300071:000:196
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!hrcoord    Apr 11 09:00:00 1992


I am going to be in Crete fro almost two weeks in early May at a
conference. The conference will be in Chania - what can anyone
tell me about the town/village, scenery, etc.?
Thanks,
Debra Guzman
From: dleblanc@kub.nl (David Leblanc)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Turkey info required
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:16:39 GMT
Organization: Tilburg University, Tilburg, The Netherlands

I'll be in Turkey for a little over two weeks in the middle of May and
would like some info from people who have been there lately (I haven't
been for 5 years). I'll be travelling around in the Izmir to Antalya
region - any particular spots which shouldn't be missed (other than
Pammukule and Euphrus). I'd be particularly interested in any fresh
water lake areas with pensions and good swimming.

Also, has anyone taken the "Blue Cruise" lately? What did you manage
to bargin them down to?

Thanks in advance
David LeBlanc

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From: lin@Apple.COM (Judy Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: French Heritage Pass?
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:04:23 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

I know that there is a Britain Heritage Pass which includes admission to
historical sites for $45. Is there something similar for France? I didn't
see any mention of it in my guide books.

Help would be much appreciated,

Judy
lin@apple.com
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From: noah@coos.dartmouth.edu (Noah Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: FRANCE - Southeast info wanted.
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:08:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Apr8.020836.26071
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

sevigny@macrow.enet.dec.com (Marc Sevigny) writes:

>I was planning on flying to Paris or Geneve (which would be most cost effective
>and convenient from Boston?),

You can fly from Boston to Paris on Northwest, TWA, and Air France NON-STOP.

 In order to fly to Gevena, you must connect somewhere.
 you can fly Swissair and connect in Zurich, or TWA and connect in Paris.
You can also fly British Airways, connecting in London, United connecting in
Washington and Paris, Delta connecting in New York, and Air France connecting in
Paris.

Judging from where you are planning on going, I think that it would be best
to go to Geneva.  It is the most convient to those regions.

-Noah Cole
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From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Subject: Re: DAYTONA BEACH:  Here we come!!!
Reply-To: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 12:21:59 GMT

As soon as possible, visit a Shoney's restaurant (sort of like Denny's
only nicer, I think) and see if they have a booklet the size of a
magazine with lots and lots and lots.... well, you get the idea, lots
of lovely COUPONS for discounts on mostly hotels but other things,
too.  I found my Daytona Beach hotel this way -- cost me $29.95 a day,
if I remember correctly.

When I was there in February, the booklet covered the whole state, so
visitors to other Florida locations might want to investigate, too.
-- 
Pat Martin Steward                          patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913
From: tony@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Tony Pillars)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:39:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Info Wanted for Hotel in Cabo San Lucas
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.travel

Hi I love that part of Baja too.

 There are a few reasonable hotels in Cabo, if you have never been there you
might look into a stay in San Jose Del Cabo, it's a bigger town, clean and
very safe. You can take the bus to Cabo for the day and the cost for a round
trip is about a dollar. I stayed at the El President and it's right on
the beach, you will find that hotels in San Jose del Cabo are cheaper
and people arn't trying to sell you timeshares like in Cabo.
 Have a Great trip

      Tony
From: ross@tarski.tmc.edu (David Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Bodega Bay - opinions wanted.
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:36:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Hawaii Mathematics Department

In article <1992Apr7.155142.2796@geovision.gvc.com> brenner@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Brenner) writes:

>Bodega is where the Hitchcock filmed "The Birds" (at least
>partly---you can see the church, in particular).  Bodega Bay is on the
>coast and is the town that can't really be compared to Monterey.

Actually, The Birds was filmed in both.  There's an amusing (to people
who know the area) scene in which schoolkids run screaming from the
birds at a school in Bodega, then the camera angle changes and you're
supposed to be seing the same kids from behind, only now they've
materialized in Bodega Bay, about a mile away.

--
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Internet: ross@kahuna.math.hawaii.edu  -or- ross@tarski.math.hawaii.edu
Phone: 808-956-9949
From: hafer@apple.com (Rob Hafer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Airline question for frequent flyers...
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:09:47 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <1992Mar03.231829.18952@disk.uucp>, proberts@disk.uucp (Phil Roberts) writes:
> Can one of you frequent flyers tell me if the airlines charge different
> rates for bulkhead seats?  
> 
> I guess what I mean is that I prefer sitting at bulkheads because they
> usually allow more legroom, so when I request those seats will it cost
> more than a regular seat in that section?
 
No, but bulkhead seats are typically reserved for groups with babies and
handicapped passengers...you can try asking for a bulkhead seat when
making your reservation.

If that doesn't work, tell them you're an adult and ask for an 'exit row'...
the seats have much more legroom and the person in front of you cannot
move their seatback into your knees.

..Rob
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From: dualist@leland.Stanford.EDU (Thomas Edward Schutz)
Subject: Northwest Airlines Worldperks Fly-Write ticket WANTED
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 22:59:24 GMT


I would be interested in buying a single Northwest Airlines
Worldperks Fly-Write ticket for a reasonable price.

(Should be good until at least late June, 1992)


---
Tom Schutz
dualist@leland.stanford.edu
(415)854-7196
From: frank@chips.com (Frank Tsang)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Courier service/tickets
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:12:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chips and Technologies, San Jose, CA

Does anyone know of a kind of ticket
that is very low cost but the restriction
is you are not allowed to checkin baggages.
Only carryon bag is allowed. I heard that
a RT SFO/HONGKONG is around $300.
Comments/reservation info/statements are appreciated.

Regards,

Frank Tsang

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Subject: need info re Ljubljana Slovenia
From: engcapgd@otago.ac.nz
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:24:04 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

Hi there. I am posting this for a friend so please reply directly to him at
mathbau@otago.ac.nz. I will send on any replies I receive as well.

---BEGIN MESSAGE---

I am going to Ljubljana, Slovenia in September for a year to take up a one-year
position in the math dept there. I would appreciate any information you have
about life in Slovenia, whether you live there or have just visited there.

Bau Sheng

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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: suri@umvlsi.ecs.umass.edu ()
Subject: Info. needed on Sydney/Brisbane/Yokohama
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:25:17 GMT


Hi,
Can anyone give pointers about the three cities (Sydney, Brisbane and
Yokohama) about places worth visiting, restaurants and anything of
interest about these places. The trips are in mid-may (land of oz) and
mid-june for japan of about 3-4 days in each city. 

Thanks,

Neeraj
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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: From Minneapolis to Chicago
Keywords: Car, Train, Plane, Minneapolis, USA, Chicago
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:23:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.222057.26446@berlioz.nsc.com> my@laverde.nsc.com writes:
>	What is there to do or to see in Chicago?

Well, if you have scuba outfit, you can go visit the basement of Marshall
Fields...or you can stand around the hole near Merchandise Mart and yell out
your best solution to plugging it...

But, stay away from City Hall for at least 3 months...there's going to be a
lot of bodies being pushed out of windows by the Mayor and the city wont be
able to afford to pay for your pain and suffering if one of them hits you :)

--ken
From: ian@spider.co.uk (Ian Heavens)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: edinburgh in may
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:01:50 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Apr10.132005.22121@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>My usual shortlist of things to do in Edinburgh:
>
>- Dunfermline Abbey (by train so you go over the Forth Bridge)
>- climb Arthur's Seat
>- wander round the New Town, Water of Leith Walkway, Stockbridge, Dean
>- Gladstone's Land (17th century merchant's house)
>- the circular-route tour bus from Waverley Bridge
>- get "The List" (fortnightly) to find what to go out to
>

Sounds good to me.  You could also:

- go walking in the Pentlands (fine views of Edinburgh and the Forth)
and drink and eat at Habbie Hawe's Hotel (Nine Mile Burn, just past Penicuik)
- go to Newhaven and watch the sunset over the Forth while drinking in
the Old Chain Pier or the Starbank Inn.  You can reach this and the old
dock area of Leith, which has a very different atmosphere from the centre
of Edinburgh and many fine pubs, by walking along the disused railway lines
from William Low's supermarket in Canonmills (go there too if you want!)
[ this is the Water of Leith Walkway, see above].
- see folk music in the centre.  The List has details.
- visit the Museum of Scotland in Chambers Street.  An impressive section 
on Tribal Art has just opened, there are plenty of stuffed animals and 
steam engines, etc.  The front hall is constructed of beautiful Victorian 
ironwork.
- visit the Museum of Modern Art, set in spacious gardens (the cafe has
good food).

Generally wandering around and slipping into the occasional licensed
establishment for refreshment is a pleasant way of getting to know 
Edinburgh.  Start around the Royal Mile, head across Princes Street to
Queen Street and the New Town and Stockbridge and the Dean Village, take 
the Water of Leith Walkway to Newhaven or Leith, grab a bus or a taxi back 
to the centre for the evening, something like that.

ian

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From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Tell me about Amtrak roomettes...
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 07:55:29 GMT

> Has anyone here ridden Amtrak lately?  I'm interested in what the
> different levels of "lodging" are like.  I've ridden coach class as
> a kid, and I'm NOT interested in that.  I think they offer an
> economy and deluxe roomette.  

As this is probably of general interest, I'll post it, but with a
North America distribution.  It's been a few years since my last
Amtrak trip, but I think I'd have heard if there had been any major
changes here.

Amtrak has two flavors of sleeping car.  In the western half of the
country, they use "Superliner" double-deck trains.  These have four
types of accommodation:

		     Number of these per car (from memory)
Name		     Upper deck	   Lower deck
economy bedroom		9		5
family bedroom		0		1
special bedroom		0		1
deluxe bedroom		5		0

Where the economy bedrooms are, there is a corridor down the center of
the car, and the economy bedrooms are on both sides.  Where the deluxe
bedrooms are, there is a corridor down one side of the car, and the
bedrooms take up the rest of the car width.  Finally, the family and
special bedrooms get the *entire* width of the car (one at each end of
the lower deck, close to the wheels).

I have used the economy bedroom and deluxe bedroom.  Each is designed
for two adults, who sleep one above the other.  In the economy bedroom
there is just barely room to maneuver in and out of the upper berth
with the door closed, and there is no plumbing in the room.  I have
found it perfectly comfortable when traveling alone, but it would
definitely be cramped with a companion.  (In the daytime configuration,
there is one forward and one backward facing seat, and adequate space.)

The deluxe bedroom has considerably more space, and the lower berth is
wider -- two people who are *very* friendly might be able to sleep in it
instead of one using the upper.  It also has its own washroom, *with a
shower*.  (Not a very good shower owing to water supply limitations,
of course, but sufficient.)

The special bedroom is intended for people with disabilities, but others
can get it if nobody else needs it.  I believe the family bedroom has
berths for two adults and some number of children.  I don't have details
on these rooms.

That's Superliners.  In the east, where clearances are more limited,
Amtrak runs a traditional single-deck type of sleeping car, and these
have "bedrooms" (no adjectives) and "roomettes".  I haven't used them.
However, on Canadian trains, a "bedroom" is similar to the Amtrak
"deluxe bedroom", only without the wider lower berth and without
the shower; and a "roomette" is similar to the "economy bedroom", but
with a toilet and sink, and it's for one person, thus no upper berth
(and only one day seat).  I would expect Amtrak to mean the same thing
by these terms.
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SoftQuad Inc., Toronto			 you ARE the traffic jam."
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com				-- Werner Icking

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