HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ag789@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Birnbaum)
Subject: Re: Mt. Tremblant?
Reply-To: ag789@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Birnbaum)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:18:06 GMT


In a previous article, jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich) says:

>We're thinking of taking a quick trip to Canada in the spring
>and skiing at Mt. Tremblant.  Has anyone here
>skied there?  What do you think of it?  What's the
>weather/snow usually like in March/April? 

I can't speak of April, but in March the weather is usually great.
When I've been there, it's been sunny and warm.  The only complaint I have
about spring skiing there is that sometimes they have to close Expo, a 
really great mogul run, during mid to late March due to lack of snow.  
Other than that, it's one of the best places in the Laurentians for spring 
skiing.  Unfortunately I can't compare it to anything in the U.S. since I've
only skied here in Canada.  Tremblant's got tones of runs for beginners, 
intermidiates and experts so if you're looking to go to Canada, Tremblant is
a great choice.  Seeya...

   Steve
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: dwl@watson.ibm.com (David W. Levine)
Subject: Re: National Brotherhood of Skiiers?
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:25:47 GMT
Reply-To: dwl@watson.ibm.com 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Nov15.175518.8454@edsr.eds.com>, hkelly@tantalum.eds.com
(Kelly Shuldberg) writes:
|> In article <SSH.92Nov13093055@snow.boulder.ibm.com>
<ssh@vnet.ibm.com> writes:
|> >Not that the Nat'l Brotherhood of Skiers aren't a fun bunch (they
are a largely
|> >African-American ski club), but 10,000 *real skiers* on the slops of
Vail in
|> >addition to a "normal" crowd would be a killer.
|> 
|> Really?  A ski club for African Americans?  I have noted throughout my some
|> 25 years of skiing that skiing is one sport where you simply do not see
|> many black people, and I think the reasons are obvious.  But society is
|> changing, maybe not fast enough for some, maybe too fast for others.  I'm
|> trying to picture someone like Herschel Walker, growing up in Taos, skiing
|> from day one--what kind of a world cup competitor would he be?  Look out,
|> Alberto!
|> 
|> h. kelly shuldberg
|> hkelly@edsr.eds.com

Well, I've seen the Brotherhood out on the slopes a couple of times and
never noticed them to be overwhelming the slopes or lifts. I actually 
thought it rather pleasent to see more diversity in what is generally a
fairly homogenous environment. I don't think it's anything skiing tries
to do, but it's certainly one of the less diverse and integrated parts of the
world.

David W. Levine --  dwl@watson.ibm.com  -- IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center
                   -- My Opinions, IBM's hardware. -- 
"Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your
aim" - George Santayana  
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: maciuca@vehicle.Berkeley.EDU (Dragos Maciuca)
Subject: Skiing in No. Cal, Utah, Nevada (Updated)
Reply-To: maciuca@vehicle.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Dragos Maciuca)
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:44:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.005740.23110@kpc.com> dennisp@kpc.com (Dennis Preston) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.234753.18674@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> maciuca@vehicle.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Dragos Maciuca) writes:
>>I just moved to California from New Jersey and I was wondering if someone
>>could recommend a good place to ski within 8 hours driving of Berkeley.
>>
>>I would be interested in a 1/2 BR condo that could cost around $250 per 
>>person per week (second week of January) including lift tickets.  Please
>>send me all the relevant informations (place, condo name, phone #, etc.)
>>
>>Thanks
>>dragos
>>
>You don't mention how many people are on this trip. That will significantly
>effect the price of the trip. If you've seen a map of CA, you know that
>Lake Tahoe is within 4 hours of Berkeley. Shasta isn't much further. For
>Info on South Lake Tahoe lodging, call the Accomodation Station. USE 411
>Chambers of Commerce are also valuable sources of info. 

I guess you are right, I should be more specific.  I'm interested in a 1 BR condo
for 4 persons or 2 BR condo for 6.  The Chamber of Commerce may provide good
info but I was interested in people's past experience with a complex or another.
>
>If you are going to ski for 7 days, on a $250 budget, consider sleeping
>in a tent.  Lift Ticks are between $30-$42 per day. Multiple day discounts
>are available, but not cheap. Good Luck.

I am interested in going from Sunday to Thursday and skiing for 4 days.  The 
$250 target was what my friends and I paid for last year in Vermont (that's not to
say that I'm trying to compare California skiing with Vermont skiing).  I do
however like your idea of sleeping in a tent.  Do you think I can set up camp
*on* the slope.

Thanks!     
dragos



Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: chris@eso.mc.xerox.com (Chris Heiny)
Subject: Re: Please! Name our ski team
Reply-To: chris@eso.mc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation, Webster NY
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:53:48 GMT

My try at mailing this bounced...

useful teams (skiing or otherwise) I have known:

Disaster Area
National Emergency
Planet 10
Bad Company
SPAM
Team 9 From Outer Space
Space Ski
Rockhounds
Powder Chowder
Dogfaced Boys
Keep Your Knees Together
Great Balls Of Fire
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRGH!   (<- insist that people say this as loud as possible)
Bagladies

more later if time permits

							Chris




Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: scotte@atlastele.com (Scott Elam)
Subject: Re: Price Check: K9 Extreeme
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:30:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.104624.165839@zeus.calpoly.edu> cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christopher J. Ambler, Phish) writes:
>K2 Extreme, list price is $499.00, I've been quotes $419 by my local
>ski shop. Anyone have an opinion on the price?
>

Yeah, 91/92's should be 250-280 and 92/93's should be less than
$350 on sale.  Watch out for poor quality control on the topsheet
of the 92/93's.  Most of the extremes I have seen in Portland 
have not had a flat topsheet.  They are "wavy" and have indentations
in them.
-- 
Scott Elam                  
scotte@atlastele.com        
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: chrisf@brtph316.bnr.ca (Chris Fulmer)
Subject: Re: Pittsburgh
Reply-To: woodstock!chris@mcnc.org
Organization: BNR Dept 3B91, RTP
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:16:44 GMT

Well, if you're looking for good skiing near the 'burgh, then
you're in the wrong place  :).  Take it from a CMU grad.

Within good driving distance, you have...

Seven Springs  1.5 hrs   Summerset Co.  Donegal exit off T-pike
Hidden Valley  1.5 hrs   ditto
Wisp           3   hrs   Deep Creek Maryland
Holiday Valley 5   hrs   Ellicotville, NY
Snowshoe       5   hrs   Elkin, WV
Peak 'n Peak   4   hrs   Upstate PA.  Don't remember the town.
Boyce Park      .5 hrs   Small.... Blecch.
Oglebay, WV    1.5 hrs   1 hill, poma lift.  Tiny.  Cheap.

Seven Springs is the standard, since it's so close.  It's better
than Hidden Valley, but typically more expensive and more crowded.
Also has more of a reputation for drunk skiers.  The hardest slopes
are on the North Face.

Holiday Valley & Snowshoe are good for weekend trips.  Longer runs
than the immediate local stuff.  Nothing in the *real* double-black
range, but some good slopes.  They're also significantly longer
than those closer to home.  Snowshoe also recently bought another
resort (Silver Creek?) that was on the same mtn, so they're huge now.
(51 runs, I think.)  Cupp run at Snowshoe is excellent.

Wisp is a nice, uncrowded area.  I really like it.  Their facilities
are a bit spartan, though.

Peak 'n Peak is fairly inexpensive, but if you're gonna go that far, just
go for Holiday Valley.

If you're going to be skiing on a December Weekday, you won't have
any lift line problems at any of these places, as long as you're going
before the Christmas Holidays.

As for ski conditions, WDVE has condition updates.  You may also want
to call Willies.

There are some resorts out toward the eastern end of the state that I'm
not familiar with (Blue Knob comes to mind.)

------------------------------------------------------
Chris Fulmer                    Bell-Northern Research
Sr. Software Designer            Research Triangle, NC
mail to woodstock!chris@mcnc.org (preferable) or...
        chrisf@bnr.ca            (not so preferable)
Oh yeah.  The usual disclaimers apply here.
From: pns@fs3.ce.umist.ac.uk (Dr. P.N. Sharratt)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: What's the deal with Skiing near Grenoble?
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:21:07 GMT
Organization: Chemical Engineering, UMIST

In article <1992Nov10.215844.2193@uvm.edu> waw@moose.uvm.edu (Mad Dog SkiDeath) writes:
>From: waw@moose.uvm.edu (Mad Dog SkiDeath)
>Subject: What's the deal with Skiing near Grenoble?
>Date: 10 Nov 92 21:58:44 GMT

>I will be based in Grenoble, France from January 8 to January 18, 1993. I am
>seeking advice and information on what's what, where the snow is, what are the
>local areas like, how do they compare with the well known areas such as Chamonix
>or Val D'Isere. Any and all info is appreciated, as will be eye-witness snow
>condition reports as my departure date draws near. Correspondance in English ou
>au francais are welcome. Reply to rec.skiing or directly to:

>Wesley Wright
>Academic Computing Services
>Room 238 Waterman
>University of Vermont
>Burlington, Vermont 05405-0160 USA
>Wesley.Wright@uvm.edu

>(Of course we all know that Vermont skiing is the best in the world, but it's 
>still nice to leave the state every so often and take a looksee around at the
>competition.)
From: byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:35:29 GMT
Subject: Re: To all of you who call yourselves skiers...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

> > To be honest, I'm very dissapionted.
> > I just joined up with this conference, hoping to read something
> > useful about skiing.
> > What I found was this:
> > A lot of nerds talking about bars and hotels!!!!!!!!!!
> > You guys have really got a problem.
> > A serious one.
> > 
> > I'll be looking forward to any response to this.
> > 
> > 					Svein Tjoenndal
> >            Cross-country skiing, the first (and real) winter sport
> >            was invented in Norway by vikings about 500 AD. 
> >            (I guess you just didn't know...)
> 
> 
> You're an idiot.
> 
> Greg
 
My, my Greg.  Took it personally did you?  Too close to the mark?

John
From: gimenezb@girtab.usc.edu (EXPO'92 * SEVILLA *)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: USC shredder from Spain needs snowboard..........................
Date: 21 Nov 1992 02:36:55 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu


Hi! my name is Alfonso. I'm studying at USC and I transferred this semester
from Sevilla, Spain.    I love snowboarding and NEED a board badly.
I prefer a used and not expensive one.
If you have any offerings and live close by SC (Los Angeles), please
e-mail me at:  gimenezb@scf.usc.edu

If you know anywhere else where I could look for, I would really 
appreciate it.

By the way, where are the closest places to go snowboarding around here?

This e-mail system is GREAT, I love it! I never used it before
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside)
Subject: Steamboat Accomodations 
Reply-To: woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:55:34 GMT

I'm going to Steamboat in January and staying at the Norwegian Log Condos.
These are suppose to be real nice.  Has anyone ever stayed there or know
about them?  Any comments would be appreciated.  Thanks.

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: dennisp@kpc.com (Dennis Preston)
Subject: Re: National Asian Brotherhood of Skiiers?
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:49:05 GMT

>*Really* cool idea.  If it wasn't for my advanced state of indebtedness and my
>homemaker wife, I'd probably be in line for it.  I picked the next best thing,
	                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                                                                ALMOST!
>though: I moved to Colorado...
>--
>Steve Hultquist                          Open systems and networking specialist
>Chant of the week:  "Snow, snow, snow, snow..."                    ISSC Boulder

Yup, It's me!
From: lfd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Lee Derbenwick)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Weather Channel Ski Reports!
Summary: Weather Channel does different regions each hour.
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:53:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsm.1992Nov19.175355.3180
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Nov19.142403.21757@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>,
puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett) writes:
> Why, O why, did last night's Weather Channel ski reports mention
[ eastern ski areas only ] ?
> Did the San Andreas slide all the way east to Kansas, and go Ka-Boom?
> Did the entire Rocky Mountain chain (along with those Midwest areas that
> have been open for weeks 8-) fall off the face of the earth?

No, you just watched during the wrong hour.  When _I_ skimmed through,
they were showing a detailed map of Colorado.  :-(

Seriously, they have a fixed schedule of regional ski reports; I haven't
yet checked which ones are which hours this season.  But it's a safe bet
that if the region is totally useless for you, just wait an hour...

 -- Speaking strictly for myself,
 --   Lee Derbenwick, AT&T Bell Laboratories, Holmdel, NJ
 --   lfd@cbnewsm.ATT.COM  or  <wherever>!att!cbnewsm!lfd
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,co.general
From: fineman@tatertot.arc.nasa.gov (Charles Fineman)
Subject: Re: BOYCOTT Purgatory-Durango
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:16:55 GMT

In article 3985@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov, puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett) writes:
>It has come to the attention of this office that those responsible for the
>nasty, nasty Amendment actually reside in Durango, CO during the month
>of January. Week of the 9th-17th, I think.
>
>SHOW 'EM YOU CARE! BOYCOTT PURGATORY-DURANGO!!
>
>jim p.
>

Y'know, my first instinct (not that I would necessarily follow through
on it!) would be to go and protest somehow. You and your friends could
wear triangles (color?) or where some a t-shirt with a statement of
some significance on it. I think that is a better way (as opposed to
just not showing up) for a relatively small group to make it's
feelings known.

	Chuck

--
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: wwl@cs.wisc.edu (William W. Lin)
Subject: Beginners Need Help
Keywords: Ski Rental, Ski School
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:58:28 GMT

A friend and I are going on a skiing trip to Utah around New Year's. We
are both beginners. I have some silly questions somebody may be able to
help me out with. We will fly into SLC from LA and stay in a hotel downtown.
Where would be best for us to rent our gears? (Airport? Downtown? the
Resort?) We are planning on skiing for one full day only (Probably at
Alta). Also, How do we sign up for ski lessons? Do we just sign up at
the resort? Or do we have to call the ski school way ahead of time? How
much do they usually cost? Finally, Can somebody in the SLC area tell me
what are some fun things to do in the evenings on Jan 1 and 2? (i.e. any
special shows, etc). Would somebody be kind enough to give me some info.
and suggestions? Either post or e-mail will be welcome.

Thanks

William 

wwl@cs.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: chris@chinook.atd.ucar.edu (Chris Webster)
Subject: Re: Colorado Ski/Avalanche Report
Reply-To: chris@chinook.atd.ucar.edu
Organization: Research Aviation Facility, NCAR, Boulder, CO
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:07:45 GMT

I'm sorry I won't be able to post this report again until I
return from the South Pacific on January 19.  Hope everybody
has an excellent early ski season.  I'll definatly be having
an excellent late kayak season.

--Chris

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: tnickles@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Tim Nickles)
Subject: Re: Winter Park Colorado
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:43:53 GMT

calondis@meaddata.com (David Calondis) writes:

>I've just been reading up on Winter Park and it sounds pretty
>awesome: "Colorado's favorite ski resort", the train ride from 
>Denver, Parsenn bowl opening this season (today! in fact), the
>200 acres of above treeline skiing in Parsenn bowl, Mary Jane,
>more than 5 feet of snow since Nov. 1, etc.
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Anyone care to elaborate on this ski resort?!
>-- 

this is quite an elaboration itself!  actually the skiing is killer
at mary jane.  if you're good (no offense) don't even think about
going to Winter park and B-line straight for Mary J's.  The challenger
lift is a triple that services kick ass terrain all.  Lots of bumps
but the lift line down challenger is less bumped and the trees are
almost perfect.

have fun
tim

Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: greg@athena.cs.uga.edu (Greg Whitlock)
Subject: xjuggle, jugglepro, and faq
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:58:47 GMT


Does anyone have the ftp site for xjuggle?  Also, is
jugglepro a shareware program that I can ftp from 
somewhere?

Is there a faq for this group?

Just curious and thanks!

-greg
 (greg@athena.cs.uga.edu)
From: naw@planet.bt.co.uk (Ab Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: I need help with juggling 4 or more
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:21:14 GMT
Reply-To: naw@planet.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, Ipswich, UK.

In article <1992Nov18.163912.24570@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> tka2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (TOMER AMIT) writes:


   From: tka2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (TOMER AMIT)
   Newsgroups: rec.juggling
   Date: 18 Nov 92 16:39:12 GMT
   Organization: Lehigh University
   Lines: 19

   Hi, how is everybody doing?  I have a problem.  I recently (three weeks ago)
   learned to juggle.
   
   I would really appreciate if one of you could e-mail to me
   directions on how to juggle four and maybe give some knew ideas for
   tricks wiht three.  I promise I will keep you informed informed of
   my progress (If you care). 

In one sentence: 2 in each hand.
	Ab.
-- 
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| Who's opinions did you say these were?    |    naw@planet.bt.co.uk |
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Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: ragatzs@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (steven ragatz)
Subject: Favorite Tricks
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:31:00 GMT

	Since there has been little noteworthy threads of late, I thought that 
I would introduce a thread that might be a little more accessible than "sore 
hands in space".  Favorite tricks...

	I've always really liked half turns.  With three clubs one can flash 
three up, do a 180 degree turn and continue juggling.  Half, single and a 
half, double and a half spins, etc. are possible.  It is a very nice trick
that is useful when changing directions on stage.  I also use it with 
five balls.  There is a three out of five up and a five out of five up.  (The 
latter being only slightly harder than the former.)  NICE trick...  These 
tricks extend to seven+ but if you are considering that then you needn't be 
reading rec.juggling - get a job.

	Half turns.  These tips relate to half turns with clubs, rings or
balls of any number.  (Watch for the Super Secret tip!  It's good!)

1.	 Learn the half turn.  A nice little pivot on the balls of the feet 
works well.  Make sure that you hit 180.  The turn shouldn't be short or long.

2.	Learn the flash.  If you are working with three balls for example, 
flash three either RLR or LRL crossing.  Imagine the time for the turn.  
Continue juggling after the catches.  The flash does not need to be very 
high - just above the head is good.  Additionally, the flash does not need to 
go way over the back.  Flash straight up.

3.	Count the flash.  With the three ball example you should count each 
throw to keep the timing straight.  Here is the super secret tip -- count one 
more than the number of objects.  ie. with three balls the count one, two, 
three, four corresponds to throw, throw, throw, space.  The space is where 
the turn comes in.  With five count six.  At first just imagine the turn.  
Then every third or fourth attempt try the flash with the turn.  At first 
just catch all of the objects.  You don't need to continue the juggle.  That 
part comes easily if the half turn is clean.

4.	Make sure that you are getting all of the throws off BEFORE you start 
to turn.  That is the purpose of the extra count.  The body stays still until 
all of the props are in the air, then comes the turn.

	I do RLR and RLRLR half turns.  I turn to the left 
(counter-clockwise). I also do full turns in this direction with the same 
RLR and RLRLR.  Good trick.  One of my favs.

-	Steve


Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: ecarsten@next1.cs.umr.edu (Edward Carstens)
Subject: Re: xjuggle, jugglepro, and faq
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:37:31 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri-Rolla, Missouri's Technological University

In article <1992Nov17.175847.21061@athena.cs.uga.edu> greg@athena.cs.uga.edu  
(Greg Whitlock) writes:
> 
> Does anyone have the ftp site for xjuggle?  Also, is
> jugglepro a shareware program that I can ftp from 
> somewhere?

JugglePro Ver. 2.3 is currently on moocow under the programs/ibm-pc directory.   
Compressed and tarred files of JugglePro are available there.

-Ed Carstens
Creator of JugglePro
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: joeg@praven.gsf.dec.com (Joe Gaudreau)
Subject: Re: Xjuggle ftp?
Organization: Dyslexic-U
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:05:43 GMT


David Torok sez:
=Could someone point me to an FTP site for the Xjuggle program (for a Sun
=Sparc) that was mentioned some time back? I cannot find the copy that I
=had a number of months back!

Actually, if someone could let me know as well... I did one of the
first "X" ports for the juggling software but lost access to the net
for a while, so...

Thanx.

Joe
-=-
From: dearden@cs.ubc.ca (Richard Dearden)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Dynamics of Juggling
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:51:31 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: pacific.cs.ubc.ca


Hi,

   I'm interested in the dynamics of juggling clubs. In particular,
I'm looking for any information or pointers to information on the
forces applied to a club when it is thrown, and the trajectory of the
club. 

   I vaguely remember this having been discussed in the group some
time ago, so if anyone has a summary of that discussion, I would
appreciate it very much.

Richard Dearden.
Kiwi in exile.
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: sore hands
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:50:43 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <cdm006-101192112526@145.1.92.113> cdm006@email.mot.com (Dick Magerl) writes:

>Am I the only one with this problem?

Nope.

>Are more expensive clubs padded to ease this problem?

In the UK you'd probably have bought Beard Beach clubs: 2nd or 3rd cheapest 
around, padded handles.  Dunno what you're gonna do in the states tho.

>I've somewhat relieved the problem by wearing a pair of bicycling gloves
>which have no fingers and are padded in the palm. They look kinda dumb
>though.

Right. Shoulda got weightlifters gloves.  Much more macho.


        Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty

  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033  
  D.Budd@mcc.ac.uk                                          fax 6040
From: mtencati@zeus.calpoly.edu (Matt T.)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: juggling five balls
Summary: need some help
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:54:14 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

Hi.  I just started reading this group and have been trying to 
learn how to juggle five balls.  I can go for about 6 throws and 
then i'm in trouble.  Can anyone send me help, or tell me where
the ftp site is where the help is?  thanks

mtencati@nike.calpoly.edu