HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: barb@public.BTR.COM (Barbara MacRae)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Shannen Doherty:  Enquiring Minds Want to Know
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:44:13 GMT
Organization: Saint Sebastian's School for Wicked Girls

In article <100739@bu.edu> mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes) writes:
>In article <8265@public.BTR.COM> barb@public.BTR.COM (Barbara MacRae) writes:
>
>Hey, hey, hey! *Please* remember that the US is a *free* country
>where people can express their opinions.

That's absolutely right. I never said she couldn't
express herself any way she chooses... but the right 
is mine as well. 

>Doherty has every right to support whoever she chooses, and she
>has done so *without* calling *you* any nasty names.

Do your homework. She has insulted democrats, homosexuals,
fat people, people who don't share her southern baptist values,
to name only a few. 

>Living in a democracy means sharing with people of different views.

Are you trying to teach me a lesson, darling? 

>Sorry, Barb, you haven't convinced me.
>Plus, you haven't ended up looking all that great yourself.

Geez, I guess I'm gonna have to crawl in a hole now - I look
bad to you. How can I go on? Put me in a kill file if you
don't want my opinions, hon. There's a lot more where these
came from, and believe it or not, quite a few people seem
to LIKE them.

-Barb
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: alt.tv.bh90210
From: wcemmons@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:03:44 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Nov2.085805.17378@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Howard.Wilson@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Howard Wilson) writes:
> I have WANTED (see the stress) the writers to find some way to
> get that spoiled bitch off the show for MONTHS now!  Hopefully, the
> writers will decide Brenda will go out-of-stateX3all.

Isn't that a coincidence.  Personally I've WANTED to see the show removed from
the air for MONTHS now!  And what's this:  out-of-stateX3all    Is it some
wierd DCL command?


> Of course, the spoiled bitch would just drop out of the show then, and
> never film the "goodbye" show, but who cares?  Just write her out.

The goodbye show?  Sounds like the Tonight show.  Speaking of that, Jay Leno
was actually here this past weekend.  I didn't go, but heard it was pretty
lame.  Jay Leno is kinda of a dweeb.  Hey, do you think that he would do a
guest appearance on BH90210?  Nah, probably not.

> Shannen used to be pretty and nice.  Now nice is out of the question, and
> it is difficult to see any beauty.

What?  Did she turn you down or something?

> Howard Wilson II
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: fabela@tibet.Berkeley.EDU (George Fabela)
Subject: Re: What happened to Andrea?
Reply-To: fabela@tibet.Berkeley.EDU (George Fabela)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:44:40 GMT



 
In article <1dbklrINN7gn@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, mccauley@sherri.larc.nasa.gov (Sherri C. McCauley) writes:
|> 
|> I must have missed the episode where Andrea was involved in some kind of 
|> accident?  I couldn't quite figure out what happened to her when I saw the 
|> scene with her and Brandon in the hospital (Nov. 5 episode).  Can someone 
|> bring me up-to-date?
|> 
|> Sherri McCauley
|> mccauley@sherri.larc.nasa.gov

Seems that Andrea was walking home from school then suddenly at an intersection
a fast moving car(probably a 1974 dodge charger,green with a blower on the hood)
ran past by her and striking her!! Leaving her without even looking back (HIT and
RUN). That was scene and it was pretty quick. Andrea only suffer with two broken
legs and a nasty bump on the head.
							
						George (SSC)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Subject: Brandon's virginity?
Reply-To: tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 19:12:40 GMT


We all know when Brenda lost her virginity.  My question is, when did Brandon,  and why didnt anyone make a big deal over that?  Cuz at the TV show they went
to on Wednesday's episode, didnt he and Nikki acknowledge that they've had sex?
BTW, it was oh so predictable that donna wouldn't sleep with David, considering
the uproar over the spring dance epsiode...

-tl24
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: dave@fatboy.manassas.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: What happened to Andrea?
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 12:01:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

In article <1992Nov5.234440.4188@sunova.ssc.gov>, fabela@tibet.Berkeley.EDU (George Fabela) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> a fast moving car(probably a 1974 dodge charger,green with a blower on the hood)
|> 							
|> 						George (SSC)
  Actually, I think it was a silver 1969 Chevelle Super Sport with a hood scoop 
(not necessarily hiding a blower).

dave.

Hey - I live in Virginia - it's not MY fault!!
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Subject: Re: rebel?
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:15:29 GMT

Steven T Chiang (stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
> 	I gave that some thought too, as Dylan's grades aren't very
> good, as Brenda would like to point out...  But hey, grades aren't
> everything when you are Luke Perry... 8)
> 

What's wrong with Dylan's grades?  I don't remember hearing anything
about them.


Larry
From: cornell@inoc.dl.nec.com (Cornell Kinderknecht)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Dylan Mackay
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:07:04 GMT
Reply-To: cornell@syl.dl.nec.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Not very organized

opel@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dylan Mackay) writes:

>Here's a little trivia question for all you 90210 experts:
>
>How did they come up with the name Dylan Mackay?  (Or is it McKay?)
>
>Do you suppose they just imagined the name, or do the creators of
>tv-shows read lists, until they find one they like?  Has anyone ever
>read anything on how the characters' names are supposed to reflect or
>augment their character traits?  If so, what was the name "Dylan
>Mackay" supposed to emote?

A very reliable insider says that the producers wanted to portray a
character that was kind of like a mix between Danny Kay and Mac
Davis but only looks a little bit older than either of the two.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Subject: Re: Brandon's virginity?
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:50:06 GMT

Tami  Luhby (tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
> larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel):
> >Why would we have thought that Donna was going to have sex with David?
> >It would be out of character for her, in addition to suggesting to the
> >viewers to face it that there really is no way a man and a woman can
> >have a romantic relationship without sex.  If the show did do that,
> >then it would definitely be predictable since that's what we're
> >constantly told by the shows we watch on TV (fiction and non-fiction).
> 
> Of course I knew Donna wasnt going to sleep with David.  The point is, the 
> episode made it seem like it might happen

It seemed to me like she was feeling a temptation from her own body
and from David's coercion, and the show attempted to portray her
reactions and responses to that tempation.  I agree that the episode
made it seem like it might happen, because it might have happened to
someone who was in the same situation as Donna but dealt with it
differently than she did.


>                                            and I'm saying anyone who knew 
> anything about the show would never let that happen again.

Let what happen?


> So don't give me a whole morality trip about what we watch on tV, cuz that's 
> not what I was writing about.

I thought you were writing about how the show was predictable, in part
because Donna and David didn't have sex.  I was saying that it would have
been predictable if they did, and I explained the way it would be
predictable.  What is the "morality trip?"


Larry
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Subject: Re: Brandon's virginity?
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 08:42:11 GMT

Tami  Luhby (tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
> BTW, it was oh so predictable that donna wouldn't sleep with David,
> considering the uproar over the spring dance epsiode...

Predictable

I keep hearing that a lot lately.  What does "predictable" have to do
with anything?  About 99% of the stuff that happens in my life is
predictable.  Why do we want things to be unpredictable?  So they'll
be more unrealistic?

Why would we have thought that Donna was going to have sex with David?
It would be out of character for her, in addition to suggesting to the
viewers to face it that there really is no way a man and a woman can
have a romantic relationship without sex.  If the show did do that,
then it would definitely be predictable since that's what we're
constantly told by the shows we watch on TV (fiction and non-fiction).

Besides, maybe they'll have sex next week... Don't miss a minute of
next week's all new episode of 90210 (presented in Dolby Stereo).


Larry
From: tmark@cognet.ucla.edu (Terence Mark)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Shannen Doherty:  Enquiring Minds Want to Know
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:21:06 GMT
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Research Program

In article <8284@public.BTR.COM> barb@public.BTR.COM (Barbara MacRae) writes:
>>Doherty has every right to support whoever she chooses, and she
>>has done so *without* calling *you* any nasty names.
>
>Do your homework. She has insulted democrats, homosexuals,
>fat people, people who don't share her southern baptist values,
>to name only a few. 
>
>-Barb

Hmmm... A woman is a bitch because she has insulted democrats etc.
Then I would say you, Barb, having indiscriminately insulted
Republicans, are a woman that makes a bitch look good.
From: mmuhamad@lindy.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Brenda is a bitch??
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:48:25 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Is that true?? huh?Just wanna know  ...
From: hk27+@andrew.cmu.edu (Heather C. Kucharik)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Brandon's virginity?
Date: 8 Nov 92 01:53:30 GMT
	<1992Nov7.191240.28592@news.columbia.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

If I remember correctly Brandon lost his virginity when his
ex-girlfriend from Minneapolis came to visit BH unexpectedly.  I don't
think anyone was expecting anything to happen between them, so no one
said anything.  Besides his parents liked her and had no problems with
her.  They weren't so excited about Brenda dating Dylan, at first.
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: pratten@csd.uwo.ca (A Warren Pratten)
Subject: Re: rebel?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:44:47 GMT

In article <BxKxnv.n0A@acsu.buffalo.edu> minyeeho@acsu.buffalo.edu (Minyee Ho) writes:
>Hi, I couldn't resist posting after seeing this week's episode.  Did
>anyone elseget the obvious connection with James Dean and Rebel Without 
>A Cause?  Well, firstly the planetarium that James Dean and Natalie Wood
>went to in Rebel is the same one where Dylan and Kelly went to.  Plus Dylan
>was wearing the exact same thing dean wore when he went there.  

Got it!  I thought it was an obvious acknowledgement of Dylan's origins.
The hair, the side-burns, the attitude.

>
>Anyways, besides that...Dylan and Kelly were just hot in this episode.

Hmmm.  I was left feeling somewhat frustrated by the Dylan/Kelly thing.  I
think Kelly got screwed around badly in this episode.  Not to mention the
fact that Dylan doesn't seem all that interested in her for more than a
lusty, sexual relationship.

>And I really have to give Ric credit for trying to be the great arbitrator
>although it made him look corny.  Andrea's usual overzealous and
>super-righteous character really got on my nerves this week.
>

People like Andrea tend to really get on my nerves quick.  I must admit that
I tend to flip channels when ever her character makes an appearence on
the show.


Does anyone besides me think that Dylan might get blamed for the break in
at the school?  It seems like a possibility.  First he is blamed for 
cheating on his SAT's then he decides to disappear for awhile.

-- 
A Warren Pratten
Email: Pratten@csd.uwo.ca
From: rbrbrn@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Robert Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Brandon's virginity?
Date: 11 Nov 92 02:18:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <1992Nov8.191334.25661@news.columbia.edu> tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby) writes:
>In article <1992Nov8.084211.28985@newshub.sdsu.edu> larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel):
>>Why would we have thought that Donna was going to have sex with David?
>>It would be out of character for her, in addition to suggesting to the
>>viewers to face it that there really is no way a man and a woman can
>>have a romantic relationship without sex.  If the show did do that,
>>then it would definitely be predictable since that's what we're
>>constantly told by the shows we watch on TV (fiction and non-fiction).

>>Besides, maybe they'll have sex next week... Don't miss a minute of
>>next week's all new episode of 90210 (presented in Dolby Stereo).

>Of course I knew Donna wasnt going to sleep with David.  The point is, the 
>episode made it seem like it might happen, and I'm saying anyone who knew 
>anything about the show would never let that happen again.
>So don't give me a whole morality trip about what we watch on tV, cuz that's 
>not what I was writing about.

David should dump Donna.  Why should he give up his sexual drive for some girl
that he most likely won't marry anyway.  Think about it.  How many "couples"
from high school are still together?  Not many.  

BARON
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Help!  I missed 11/4 episode!
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:00:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas

Well, I finally missed an episode of 90210.  First one since I got hooked
this summer. (an episode or two after Dylan & Kelly had their fling)

As you can guess, I would like somebody to tell me what happened, and I've
heard mentioned that it was the 1st part of a 2-parter.  Is this true?

Can't believe I missed this episode!  Like most, the K-D-B storyline is
the most interesting, IMHO.

Thanks.
From: keb3_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Karin E. Baker)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: Shannen Doherty: Enquiring Minds Want to Know
Date: 7 Nov 92 15:25:06 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov7.022106.28874@cognet.ucla.edu> tmark@cognet.ucla.edu (Terence Mark) writes:


>In article <8284@public.BTR.COM> barb@public.BTR.COM (Barbara MacRae) writes:
>>>Doherty has every right to support whoever she chooses, and she
>>>has done so *without* calling *you* any nasty names.
>>
>>Do your homework. She has insulted democrats, homosexuals,
>>fat people, people who don't share her southern baptist values,
>>to name only a few. 
>>
>>-Barb

>Hmmm... A woman is a bitch because she has insulted democrats etc.
>Then I would say you, Barb, having indiscriminately insulted
>Republicans, are a woman that makes a bitch look good. 


Sorry, babe, have to disagree with you here.  IF SD has insulted
democrats, homosexuals and made sizist jokes, I think it out-does
republican bashing.. 3:1.  And, actually, personally, anyone who
makes homophobic remarks, in my book, needs a good deal of education.

True, it doesn't necessarily make them a "bitch" but I don't 
think y'all are doing a great deal of defense by going around 
responding to Barb's opinion with "Well.. so are you.. nyahh!"


(I could, also, go into the standard off the subject litany of 
how the word bitch is derogatory to women, and sexist just in the 
use of it for all women and not just the particular woman being 
referred to as a bitch.. but I think I'll skip that lecture for 
today..<smile!>)


-- 
;^) -Karin
keb3_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:56:14 -0500 
From: Christopher Ryan Stengel <cs4v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Jennie Garth is HOT

What's up with Dylan!
 
What a weenie!
 
He should have taken Kelley with him!
 
What's he thinkin'?!?!
 
Next Week:  What's up with that "older woman" trash?  How could he even
            think about another woman when he could have Jenny Garth's
            lips?  What a maroon!
 
Chris.

                                                 __
                                                / / /  _  * _
                                               /___/)_/(_(_/_)_____
                                            Christopher Ryan Stengel
                                                stengel@cmu.edu
                                           Carnegie Mellon University
                                                 (412) 268-8372

Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: cyrano@athena.mit.edu (Joe Cuervo)
Subject: about mr. walsh's secretary
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:47:01 GMT


i hope she becomes a regular on the show...

Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: tl24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Subject: Re: Brandon's virginity?
Reply-To: tl24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:12:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.075006.13753@newshub.sdsu.edu> larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel) writes:
>Tami  Luhby (tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu) wrote:
>> larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel):
>> >Why would we have thought that Donna was going to have sex with David?
>> >It would be out of character for her, in addition to suggesting to the
>> >viewers to face it that there really is no way a man and a woman can
>> >have a romantic relationship without sex.  If the show did do that,
>> >then it would definitely be predictable since that's what we're
>> >constantly told by the shows we watch on TV (fiction and non-fiction).
>> 
>> Of course I knew Donna wasnt going to sleep with David.  The point is, the 
>> episode made it seem like it might happen
>
>It seemed to me like she was feeling a temptation from her own body
>and from David's coercion, and the show attempted to portray her
>reactions and responses to that tempation.  I agree that the episode
>made it seem like it might happen, because it might have happened to
>someone who was in the same situation as Donna but dealt with it
>differently than she did.
>
>
>>                                            and I'm saying anyone who knew 
>> anything about the show would never let that happen again.
>
>Let what happen?
Let another girl lose her virginity on 90210!

>
>> So don't give me a whole morality trip about what we watch on tV, cuz that's>> not what I was writing about.
>
>I thought you were writing about how the show was predictable, in part
>because Donna and David didn't have sex.  I was saying that it would have
>been predictable if they did, and I explained the way it would be
>predictable.  What is the "morality trip?"
Look forget it.  These newsgroups are just arguments about who's right.  
In the context of TV, yes, it is predictable for kids to have sex.  But if you look at the big picture of 90210, with all the uproar caused over Brenda losing
her virginity, then there was no way that those two were going to have sex.  It
seems like this was a chance for 90210 to vindicate itself, and to get on a 
soapbox and say "hey, its ok to not have sex."
-tl24
From: larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.90210,alt.tv.bh90210
Subject: Re: I want to kill BRENDA !!
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:38:10 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University, College of Sciences
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

David Pugh (pugh@pico.math.ucla.edu) wrote:
> Dylan and Kelly are clearly RIGHT for each other. Both are much more
> mature than Brendabitch.

Sure, I mean Dylan surfs, rides his JetSki(TM), works on his motorcycle
and tries to get laid.  He's kickin' back until the trust fund comes
through so he can kick back some more.  How much more mature can you
get!

And Kelly, whew, someone who can mope around for three months because
she doesn't get to have the guy that she's supposedly had a crush on
since kindergarten but didn't do anything it about until ten years
later when he has a girlfriend who's out of town.  Now that's mature!


>                                    I think Dylan and Kelly are pretty
> hot together tho' - not like with Ice-cold Brenda.

Well they have a lot in common.  They both love to waste time and have
sex.  Oh yeah, and ride the JetSki(TM) "go faster!" and eat Pizza at
Paradise Cove.


>                                                                   Why
> does this show have to be so issue orientated?

It doesn't have to be.  It just is!


Larry
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: modowd@lonestar.utsa.edu (Michael T. O'Dowd)
Subject: Re: 11/4 episode
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 13:27:59 GMT

In article <1dbfo0INNleo@bigboote.WPI.EDU> liz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (PostMistress General) writes:

[stuff deleted]

You all must remember, this week, and next are all part of sweeps weeks.
If you noticed, Thursday on Cheers, Frasure and Lilith also separated because
Lilith had an affair. Home Improvement was funnier than usual, as was Murphy
Brown. Also, look at all of the cameo appearances on TV in the next week. You
may be surprised by all the stars you see.


-- 

               Life is too short, no matter how long you live.

                                                -- Michael Landon
Newsgroups: alt.tv.bh90210
From: tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Subject: Re: Brandon's virginity?
Reply-To: tl24@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tami  Luhby)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:13:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.084211.28985@newshub.sdsu.edu> larryr@saturn.sdsu.edu (Larry Riedel):
>Why would we have thought that Donna was going to have sex with David?
>It would be out of character for her, in addition to suggesting to the
>viewers to face it that there really is no way a man and a woman can
>have a romantic relationship without sex.  If the show did do that,
>then it would definitely be predictable since that's what we're
>constantly told by the shows we watch on TV (fiction and non-fiction).
>
>Besides, maybe they'll have sex next week... Don't miss a minute of
>next week's all new episode of 90210 (presented in Dolby Stereo).
>
>
>Larry

Of course I knew Donna wasnt going to sleep with David.  The point is, the 
episode made it seem like it might happen, and I'm saying anyone who knew 
anything about the show would never let that happen again.
So don't give me a whole morality trip about what we watch on tV, cuz that's 
not what I was writing about.

-tl24

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