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From: snoret@egon.unx.sas.com (Rick Tatem)
Subject: More MiNT q's,  Why not a MiNT FAQ?? :)
Summary: trying to get a minimum setup
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:00:45 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
Keywords: MiNT, mgr, pty's, etc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.atari.st

Well, add my name to the list of folks who would REALLY appreciate a little
help getting started with MiNT! :)  I'm trying to get a minimum setup (trying
to fit everything on one disk, formatted to > 900K) so that I can do a demo of
itit for my users group.  I have MiNT, mgr, and the MiNT port of ksh on the disk, with a little
room to spare, so every path will be A:\<something>.  MiNT starts
without a problem, so does mgr.  But as soon as I try to define a window, I
get the somewhat infamous "Can't get pty" error.  As far as I can tell, I
have things set up right.  I have renamed mgr as the init.prg. and I have
ksh and its path defined.  Is there something else I'm supposed to do? 

The docs for both MiNT and mgr are exceedingly sparse when it comes to 
installation and configuration examples.  Is someone currently working an
a MiNT FAQ?  How about a "MiNT Installation and Setup Guide"?  If I get 
responses and help, I would be willing to get one started and post my
results.

So, I guess what I need is: 
1.  where do the various *.rc, *.cnf, etc. files go?  auto, root, where?
2.  what do I need defined in these files?  paths, devices, what?
3.  what order do things need to be in?  MiNT first, then what? and where?
4.  any other tips and hints greatly appreciated

Thanks in advance for your help!

Rick
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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ATARI STE vs. ATARI MEGA STE
Keywords: Which one?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:15:15 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <23JUL199201250836@ral.arc.nasa.gov> semra@ral.arc.nasa.gov (Donald K. George) writes:
>I have a 520 STE w/ 4 meg.  I'm informed that SST doesn't work on 520/1040
>STE's.  First, of course, due to physical space restrictions.  This can be
>overcome by putting it in a tower case (I haven't done this).  Second, there
>is some other problem that prevents it from working.  I don't think the Megas
>suffer this restriction.  My own opinion is that if the price difference 
>isn't large or important to you, go with the MEGA.  It seems to be more 
>versatile (VME and Graphics cards, etc., Internal SCSI?).  There doesn't 
>seem to be much of an upgrade path for the 520/1040 STE's.

The SST won't fit in a Mega STE either.  You need a Mega ST or, as you said,
a tower case.  It's been mentioned a couple of times before from the designer
George Richardson, that there would a Mega STE version, but it would sacrifice
some of the features in the Mega ST version.  And don't expect any time soon,
if at all.  I think Dave Small has enough on his hands right now that he
doesn't need to worry about having George design another version.


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From: molin@crs.cl.msu.edu (Michael Olin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon
Date: 26 Jul 92 06:58:24 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

truong@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (hoa nhu truong) writes:

>I've been seeing a lot of posting on the Falcon.  Would someone englighten on
>this supposedly wonderful new computer?  When is it due (supposedly, and
>REALLY)? 

Atari Falcon is due out this fall.
 
When's it REALLY due out?   BWAHAHAHAHAH  HOHOHO HEHEHEH  YOWZER!
That's rich!  Have you considered standup comedy?
From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:34:07 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Jul30.053208.736@quando.quantum.de> vombruch@quando.quantum.de (Stefan vom Bruch) writes:
>I hope there are not too many ST users out there who share your opinion
>that there is nothing to worry about.

I never said that there was nothing to worry about.  If I implied that,
then I'm sorry because I didn't want to.  There's lots of stuff to worry
about, but it seems that much of it is out of our control.

What I find amazing is that of the three (?) responses so far that I received
about what kind of software people want, two said that they want games.  It's
interesting because I've had the impression that many people want Atari to
shed its game image.


Pattie, yeah, something like Photoshop would be real nice.  (I haven't seen
ColorStudio.)  I think I mentioned INVISION Elite here a couple of days ago.
It reminds me of Photoshop, but it's only monochrome.  The author says he'll
add color support contingent upon the response of the monochrome version.  I
think it's imperative that he adds color support immediately.  There are a
few color boards out now and his program looks like it would work wonderfully
with them.

Hopefully with ICD's Link, the ST will get some CD-ROM support.  (We sure do
a lot of hoping around here. :^)  I wouldn't necessarily expect many of our
own CDs, although there are some out there already, but instead I would expect
to see front-end drivers for some of the CDs that are available for PCs and
Macs.


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From: Mick_Schmidt@hb.maus.de (Mick Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: MIDI-MAZE II
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:33:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: HB.A15670
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

>I bought the PD-disk on a sunday last year, phoned the author the same
>evening sent the money on monday and had the full version 10 days later...

Not to forget the Midi-Maze II T-Shirt! ;-)

G'Day Mick
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From: mluoto@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Markku Luoto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: retouche or cranach dealer ?
Date: 19 Jul 92 09:02:37 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki


	As stated above, does anyone know of a RETOUCHE (professional)
	and/or
	CRANACH STUDIO dealer in europe (suppose it's german...?)

	Any info on "PROFESSIONAL" software dealer that has the HIGH-END
	of ST/TT programs on stock would be appreciated !
.
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From: selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Atari marketing & the Falcon
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:42:42 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: selick@csa


I just had an interesting idea. Now that we're all done chastising Atari
for not advertising their products properly, why don't we, the members
of comp.sys.atari.st, and for that matter, the entire Atari community,
advertise for Atari? What I am saying is: Get out your favorite DTP
program and your Atari SLM's, and go out there and advertise! Go post
your advertisements on your local bulletin boards (physical ones, not
electronic ones!) 

Ok. Here's another idea...

Why don't we all pool our money and get, say, $15,000 and give it to
Atari to take out an ad in TIME, or Business Week, or something like
that? Maybe that would get the ball rolling? We have to be
innovative...we own Atari's!

-Steve <selick@csa.bu.edu>
From: jharres@doc.bmd.trw.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: FASTBASE help
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:52:20 GMT

I recently ftp'd FASTBASE from a.a.  Following setup it ran fine except I 
can't get it to print mailing labels.  Is this disabled in the demo or is
my file corrupted?  I have emailed the author at the address in the maual,
but have not received a response.  Anybody know where I can contact him or
have any suggestions on what to try?

Jim       jharres@oz.bmd.trw.com
From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Advice on cheap scanner needed
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:54:45 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

heiden@kboeng.enet.dec.com (Matthias Heiden) writes:

>I'm looking for advice on cheap scanners (B/W hand scanner) and associated
>software. I plan to include the pictures into Pagestream docs. (see previous
>note).

I picked up a "Golden Image" scanner pretty cheaply - and it comes with
the excellent Migraph Touch-Up software.  The scanner is excellent, scanning
at 100, 200, 300, or 400 dpi, in one of 4 modes (from "Photo" to "Text"),
and has fully adjustable contrast.


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From: dont@klic.rain.com (Don taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: differential equation solver available?
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:56:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: klic.1992Jul22.065643.16727
Distribution: na
Organization: KLIC

A friend wants to investigate chaotic behavior.  I have looked at the archive
listings and don't see a differential equation solver availble.

Does anyone know of one?
Or a program that displays the Lorentz chaotic functions?

If not, I can make some reasonable sense explaining what to code
to handle the mathematics.  If someone else can handle the Atari St
specific things like handling monochrome vs color, etc, we could
put one together fairly easily.  The source in Numerical Recipies
can do the solving.  Maybe even stereo 3-d.

How about a newer version of Fractint than is on atari.archive?

Thanks
Don Taylor
503-235-6853
dont@klic.rain.com
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Newsgroups: poster,comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: holger@zelator.in-berlin.de (Holger Lesch)
Subject: Re: AT-Speed and Atari mouse ?
Organization: Puplic-Access-Xenix-System
Distribution: world,local
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 09:26:28 GMT

In <1992Jul29.115535.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> dtarico@violet.ccit.arizona.edu writes:

>Has anybody had any luck using the Atari mouse under AT-Speed?  If so,
>how did you get it to work?  Does it need a driver?  Email responses
>are fine, and I will summarize if there is interest.  Thanks!

Yes, of course you need a MS-compatible mouse-driver e.g. mouse.sys 
or gmouse.com....

Holger
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From: johnmc@mks.com (John McMullen)
Subject: Re: GIF to Degas conversion
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:58:35 GMT

In <1992Jul21.154402.29321@cca.vu.nl> hjb@levi.th.vu.nl (Hendrik Jan Bosman) writes:

>Does anybody know of a (PD) program that converts .gif pictures into
>Degas-format pictures (.PI3)? The reason I ask: I have just found this
>nice little program that replaces the boring grey background canvas
>of the TOS desktop with a Degas-picture. Converting .gif to Degas
>would render an almost infinite number of possible backgrounds, since
>there must be thousands of gifs around.

One option I played with a few years ago is to use one of the two or
three screen-capture utilities in combination with a monochrome GIF
display program such as giffer (the one I tried) or mgif (haven't tried)
to get your Degas image.  The Degas image being a pretty straight write
of the screen, the screen-capture utilities I saw used Degas format.

This has the advantage of generating a PI3 image, rather than trying to
create one from a PI2 or PI1.

It was a couple of years ago, so I don't remember program names.  They
are available from atari.archive.umich.edu.  Giffer is also available
from comp.binaries.atari.st archives.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Bunch)
Subject: Mint/Mgr/Mgrterm etc...
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 07:30:19 GMT

Greets,

I am running mint on my harddrive.  I have it all on partition H.  I
am also running the init package with mint.  I use bash as my shell.
I am having a couple of problems.  First I cant seem to set up a
symbolic link from h:/mgr to u:/mgr.  I am doing this from within
mint.cnf as follows.

sln h:\mgr u:\mgr

The thing that is odd about that is that my other links work fine..  
Is there a reason for this?  The other links I have a h:\bin u:\bin,
h:\gnu u:\gnu, etc.

Now onto other problems.  I startup mgr with no problems, but I cant
seem to run mgrterm?  It starts up, but then doesn't seem to do
anything.  Is there anything special that has to be done.  Also how
can I shutdown mint from within bash?  With tcsh there is an alias 
"shutdown kill -TERM 1" or some such, is there a way to do this from
withing bash?  I cant seem to use kill at all from bash?  Also the
mintbash.zoo the latest version of bash?  


John

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: sourada@iastate.edu (Steven D Ourada)
Subject: Re: Atari marketing & the Falcon
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:05:06 GMT

In <92355@bu.edu> selick@csa.bu.edu (Steven Selick) writes:

>Why don't we all pool our money and get, say, $15,000 and give it to
>Atari to take out an ad in TIME, or Business Week, or something like
>that? Maybe that would get the ball rolling? We have to be
>innovative...we own Atari's!

Although I would like to see Atari succeed, and I do think that they 
should do a bit more advertising, this is _not_ the answer. For one thing,
if Atari wants to make money, _Atari_ should be doing the advertising.
I'm not going to run thier business unless I'm on the payroll. 

Another thing is that one ad will not do that much. It's true that a small
sum from each Atari user on csas would pay for a small ad in some magazine,
but it would require many of these ads to have a meaningful effect. Even the
staunchest of Atari supporters would tire of donating money to Atari every
month. 

Finally, what would I get out of my donation? If Atari went belly up 
tommorow, I would still have my STe, my software, a community of users
here to converse with, and even a bit of a market should I decide to write
commercial software. If I gave money to Atari, and the advertising did
actually succeed, I would still have my STe, my software, a slightly larger
community of users here to converse with, and a slightly larger bit of a
market should I decide to write commercial software. And some users wouldn't
even get that much out of it. Given the possibilities, it's probably not 
worth the money.

                 Later,
                  Steven Ourada
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ultron@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Andrew H Krieg)
Subject: Re: MAC 128K ROMS FOR SALE
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:14:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.175057.12674@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jbunch@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Bunch) writes:
>
>>			I am asking about $225 for the pair.
>
>I also have a set of mac roms for sale..  I am willing to sell mine
>for 150.00 for anyone who doesn't want to spend 225 for them..  

You guys are nuts!  I bought a used Spectre GCR (3.0) with the Mac 128K Roms
for $150.
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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon price
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:12:53 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

jreiss@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph W Reiss) writes:

>Many of us may not like Mr. Sheppard.  But he has a right to post.  If
>you don't like what he has to say, then that's what the 'k' key and
>kill files are for.

Agreed.  It is especially annoying to have people reply to posters that
are already in my kill file (we don't have to read what Mr Sheppard posts,
but we have to put up with all the people telling him not to).

There are malcontents in every group (go have a look some time).  After
a while, they move away though.  When Mr S buys his clone, he'll complain
about all the things it doesn't do that "even his old Atari junk could do".

Me, I'm ready to buy my next computer... and I'm waiting for the Falcon.
(flames from the faithless ignored)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Subject: Re: Falcon
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 00:50:35 GMT


In a previous article, ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen) says:

>In article <1992Jul28.033249.27525@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
>>
>>P.S. When the Falcon 030 is released, I think we are all going to have
>>to get together and give software companies a wake-up call.  The present
>>amount of new ST software released in the U.S. is close to nothing
>>and European software are becomming very few.  
>>
>
>Whenever someone says that, I'm curious what kind of software they're 
>looking for.  I've got software that I don't even have time to use, and 
>none of it is games.
>
>So, Len, what kind of software are you looking for that isn't currently
>available?  If anyone else wants to jump in, please do. :^)

I want Sierra games (I use to buy all of them).  I want Electronic Arts
software.  I want the latest version of Word Perfect.

I want SimAnt and all those other games that are on IBM compatibles
while software copanies laugh at me when I ask if it will be on the Atari ST.


I want a choice.
(And I hope this isn't going to be posted in an online magazine. :) )
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From: marc@hemlock.cray.com (Marc Bouron)
Subject: CS-TeX documentation "auf Englisch"
Originator: marc@hemlock
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:09:54 CDT


Hi People,

I imagine someone has asked this already, but perhaps I wasn't listening... ;-)
Is there a translation (into English) of the CS-TeX documentation?

Cheers,

[M][a][r][c]
From: dud@hardy.u.washington.edu (Daniel Aylward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ASCI port on Falcon  <was: Re: Forbes Magazine article>
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:57:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul29.145756.7180
Organization: University of Washington

mikael@terapin.com (Mikael Andersson) writes:

>On the Falcon the ACSI interface is removed and there's only SCSI harddisk
>interface left.
> 
>Mikael

Would it be difficult for some third party manufacturer to make a
SCSI->ASCI adapter for such things as Atari laser printers?  Maybe Atari
will come out with a SCSI version of the SLM604...  then (with software)
it could work on clones too!

Dan Aylward
dud@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jyoung@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Young)
Subject: Re: Atari Something (?) Magazine
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 20:55:33 GMT

Everyone is waiting for review of Flacon!!  WHERE is it?!?
From: mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Atari ABC 386 SX/DX II
Keywords: information?
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:30:37 GMT
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix

Does anyone have any information on the Atari IBM compatibles, the
ABC 386 SX/DX IIs? Other than from the brochure, does anyone own
one of these?

From what I have seen of the computer, the one place I saw it oinly
had the 386 SX and they were selling it for $750, no monitor. Is
that the going price for 386 SX systems?

(386 SX II, 1Mb RAM, Phoenix BIOS, SVGA 800x600, 40Mb HD, 17ms
access, 3.5" 1.44Mb floppy, three open drive bays, two 8bit slots,
four 16bit slots, MS-DOS 5 and Windows 3, 200w power supply
110/220v, parallel, game and two serial ports, 101 key keyboard)

Is this a decent system?

The reason I ask, is that one might have to get a real IBM type,
and instead of screwing around with emulators, at least stay in the
family and get an Atari.

Personally, I'd probably rather use the original GEM program (I
have it) for the IBM and feel right at home, or move to OS/2 (I won
that program...)

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From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: Forbes Magazine article
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:53:26 GMT

The specs I have say there is an IDE interface built in as well...

Thom

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: azog@world.std.com (Azog Thoth)
Subject: Hermes xhost help
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:05:17 GMT

I finally ftp'ed the Hermes stuff the other day (over 600k, not bad
ftp'ing it, but bad downloading it at 9600 PEP!), and am sorta
in a bind...

I cant read or speak German, and most of the important docs are
in German. Ive set things up to the point where I can send local
mail, but when I try to send mail to my Unix box, something must
be wrong with the xhosts file, cause it complains.

Has anyone got an explaination of all the fields? I tried things
out by using the examples supplied, but still no luck...

One last quick question. Is there a cron that can be run under 
MiNT? when I sent local mail, it spooled up under the mqueue directory,
but I needed to issue rmail by hand before it got delivered.

Thanx


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From: jan@janhh.hanse.de (Jan Willamowius)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Fax software
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:18:52 GMT

From article <1992Jul26.201014.15026@newstand.syr.edu>, by ggreenbe@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Gerald Greenberg):
> What I really wanted to know was whether that package, or any
> other for that matter, allows you to send and/or recieve faxes
> without...WITHOUT...a fax modem?

It is not possible convert an ordinary modem to a faxmodem by running some
software in your computer.

Some people get this idea, because there are programms floating around
that do _HAM_fax_ which requires expensive amateur radio equipment and
licences (depending on your country).

- Jan

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