From: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: New Amiga(s) Expansion/Future
Date: 11 Oct 92 11:04:48 GMT
Reply-To: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
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> First of all, I have not seen very many (if hardly any at all) SCSI
> peripherals for the Amiga except hard drives.

Amazing. Then I'll tell you about some very common devices that will not 
interface to the A4000 without 3rd party SCSI host adaptors that will take up 
one of the four precious Zorro III slots.

o Tape streamers. The device you typically use to BACKUP your data.
  Professionals and sensible hobbyists DO backup their data. If you
  don't want to spend all the day shuffling floppies in and out, this
  is the solution. But it requires a SCSI interface!

o Flopticals. These wonderful little disk drives store 20Mb each (but this
  is improving of course) on cheap compact disks. They are SCSI connected.

o CD-ROMs and WORM drives. Very common in multimedia applications! You'd
  expect the state-of-the-art multimedia computer to be able to talk with
  these devices, but no... you need a SCSI interface.

> Also, didn't someone mention a C= SCSI-II card as an option somewhere.

Sure. Which means you're styck with one less Zorro slot. But I guess C= will 
ship a new A4000 with on-board SCSI interface and 8Mb CHIP RAM, it's probably 
just a matter of time.

Even the A3000 SCSI interface would have been endlessly better than the IDE/AT 
interface, and would have meant *zero* development cost.

[regarding A500 which is upgradable in more ways than the A600]

> Do HOME/GAME users really need this though??

Unless they want to dump their machine, yes. One idea of home computers is to 
perhaps first play some games, and when you have gotten tierd of that, you 
realise there's actually a computer inside that machine. As you start to 
explore the computer, you can add to it as your needs grows. Gee, the A500 can 
have 2Mb chip ram and a 68040 with 8Mb 32-bit fast ram, with a fast SCSI 
harddisk, CD-ROMs etc. Even though this was an extreme example, you get the 
picutre I hope. The A600 will have to be replaced, which (although it will in 
the long run probably be the best thing to do) will cost more initially. But I 
do realise why the ultra-cheap-to-manufacture A600 was developed, it's not 
much to argue about in itself.

> These kinds of posts belong on ADVOCACY!!

Why? I was under the impression that the comp.sys.amiga.advocacy newsgroup was 
for people who though that other computers were better than the Amiga, so they 
could argue with Amiga owners there. Of course the people from C= does not (I 
assume) read such nonsense, because we already know the real story in those 
matters. :)

I am posting here in order to hopefully give the people at C= some feedback on 
the A4000, and to get an improved A4000 out! I doesn't realise why this should 
belong in advocacy, a simple comparsion between different Amiga models.

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