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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:59:00 CST
From:         Yvette Traylor <YST1@DCCCDBIT.BITNET>
Subject:      I thank God

The following article appeared in the Dallas Morning News newspaper
on Jan. 1 of this year and I would like to share it with you all.

I Thank God
   Sixteen years ago my biological mother gave me up for
adoption soon after my birth. Sure, she had a choice, and having an
abortion might have been easier for her. It would have allowed her to
avoid living with accusing stares from her former friends and
acquaintances.  Abortion also would have avoided the months of pregancy
and the pain of giving birth. But my mother instead chose to give me
the best gift of all: life. She realized that the baby inside her was a
person who deserved to grow up and have a chance to contribute to
society.
  Many people are mystified by the ongoing debate. Many do not
understand what all the ruckus is about. The simple answer, which my
biological mother realized 16 years ago, is that all babies, even an
illegitimate baby with teenaged parents, should have a chance at life.
Every day I thank God for this woman's decision which gave me life.
Submitted by Chet White in Richardson Texas

I hope that you all enjoyed reading this as much as I did.
Your sister in Christ,
Yvette

   Yvette Traylor     "We are His people and the sheep of his pasture."
   Dallas County Community College District             Psalm 100:3
   Computer Programmer/Analyst from Dallas - Texas
"I know worse things about myself that you will ever say about me." Anon
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:28:55 +0000
From:         Leo W <Leo_W@QM.CIRCA.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Scripturette 1/8

MAN: "... people who die ... people who die like the grass" (Isaiah 51:12).

GOD: "God is the only One who never dies" (1 Timothy 6:16).

"The spiritual man did not come first.  It was the physical man who came first;
 then came the spiritual.  The first man came from the dust of the earth.  The
second man came from heaven.  People belong to the earth.  They are like the
first man of earth.  But those people who belong to heaven are like the man of
heaven.  We were made like the man of earth.  So we will be made like the man
of heaven ... He gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ" (1
Corinthians 15:46-57).

Yours in Christ Jesus,
Leo

Scriptures quoted from the International Children's Bible (ICB), New Century
Version, copyright 1986, 1988 by Word Publishing, Dallas, Texas 75039.  Used
by permission.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:12:27 -0500
From:         kilroy@GBORO.ROWAN.EDU
Subject:      Christmas & Christians

Ian Wylie recently wrote:

> ... Christmas has nothing to do with Christ, but is based on pagan
> festivities.

(This comes up from time to time, but oddly never during Christmas.  These
 discussions usually take place during Advent, and sometimes during
 Epiphany, but I've never seen anybody complain about Christmas while it
 is going on.  Anyway...)

I don't know what Mr Wylie's complaint about Christmas is, but from what
he has said it appears that he is conflating several different issues.

What I can say for certain is that, as stated, his assertion is wrong.


The primary element of my Christmas observance was the Christmas Eve
service at church.  We sang several hymns, all with Biblical themes; we
took Communion, a remembrance based on the Biblical accounts of the Last
Supper; we read the Nativity account from the Holy Gospel of Our Lord Jesus
Christ according to Luke.

If Mr Wylie wishes to claim that singing hymns and reading from the Bible is
somehow non-Christian, he's welcome to make his case.  If he wants to say
that remembering the Last Supper "has nothing to do with Christ", then I'd be
fascinated to read what he thinks it is about.  But until he's produced some
evidence, he should keep his comments about "pagan festivities" to himself.

[ Note that I am not interested in historical accounts about Christmas trees
  or Yule Logs, neither of which were present in the church.  Neither do I
  care about what other religions do in December; I do not restrict my worship
  based on the schedules or convenience of men. ]


Darren F Provine / kilroy@gboro.rowan.edu
"I'd walk through Hell in a gasoline suit to keep playing baseball."
                                                                -- Pete Rose
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From:         Carol Slingo <slingo@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: A Hindu View of Amy Grant
              Curry-White" at Jan 7, 93 3:39 pm

When I posted the quote, I was not expecting the kind of response it got!
More thoughts--Christians are a very small minority in India as a
whole--there are a lot in the South, not so many in the North, and none,
practically speaking, in a lot of villages.  But TV and the media are
finally everywhere.  There are very few isolated places in the days of
satellites.

Screen reviews only 2-3 Western albums a week.  Of those, most are big name
rock and pop stars from the U.S.  A review in Screen means that Amy's
cassette (all stars are on a first-name basis in India) will be sold in
shops all over the country--and remember, there is a full-fledged Hindu
fundamentalist upsurge in India right now with violence between organized
groups and many Christians at risk.  The review implies, I think, that the
songs will be played for the public.  A lot of people may not be familiar
with music by any Christian artist.  I don't think anyone should see the
release of this cassette as a negative thing.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:38:43 GMT
From:         "Ian (Travolta) Wylie C2/Q2" <iwylie@MCS.DUNDEE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: QUESTION ON PRAYER

Scott,

Good answers to the above.  You will find in John though that Jesus says to
all that follow Him, "If ye shal ask anything in my name, it WILL be done unto
you, that my Father in heaven may be glorified"

The Lord does answer all prayers that are offered to him in accordance with his
word.  We find prayers must be offered according to His will and in a humble
state of mind.  We also read a condition in the psalms that, the Lord will
not answer any that conceal  sin in their heart.

In Christ

Ian Wylie
University of Dundee
Scotland
E-mail iwylie@uk.ac.dund.mcs
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:02:31 EST
From:         Lon Mendelsohn <LMENDELS@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CS Lewis - Abolition of Man 2
              12 Jan 1993 13:16:07 EST from <harling@ROADRUNNER.PICTEL.COM>

Dan,

I have also read nearly all of these books; in fact, I used _Miracles_
as the basis for a philosophy paper that I had to write as an under-
graduate.  I have read most of Lewis's short works and all of his
fiction that I could get my hands on, and I have found nearly everything
to be very enjoyable and strengthening to my faith.

Shalom,

Lon Mendelsohn
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:53:55 EST
From:         Marissa Ratcliff <MRATCLIF@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Christmas
              7 Jan 1993 20:54:54 GMT from <iwylie@MCS.DUNDEE.AC.UK>

Just a few more observations about Christmas:

  First, I don't of anyone who celebrates Christmas as a religious holiday in o
rder to please man.  The secular world would like nothing better than to abolis
h this observance.  Or better yet, just another sales day.

  Second, if we use the Bible as our guide, we must celebrate Christmas.  Shepa
rds were called out of the fields to welcome Christ into the world.  God create
d an immense star to announce the birth and call three pagan kings to kneel at
the side of Jesus and present Him with gifts on His birthday.   If pagans were
called all that way and allowed to celebrate His birth, cannot we Christians se
t aside a day to celebrate His precious gift?

  And lastly, this Scripture came to mind, "And the voice spake unto him again
the second time, What God hath cleansed , that call not thou common." Acts 10
I know this passage has to do with food, but I believe it is relevant.  Many pe
ople have been blessed during this time of year.  Everyone I talk to about this
 always tell me that the Holidays are very special to them and are a blessing.
I do not IMHO believe that God disapproves of Christmas, as long as the focus i
s on Christ.  In all things, including the celebration of Christmas, we should
glorify Christ.


Marissa Ratcliff            Document Delivery
University of GA            Science Library
Athens, GA
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:00:37 CST
From:         A16905@ITESO.BITNET
Subject:      Hi back

Hi, I am back. Nice to hear from you !


Now, I have a problem:

I got a Creative Labs Multimedia Started kit (CD-ROM, Sound Blaster Pro and
software).

(Any of you not familiar with this, please, don't waste your time reading).

The problem is with the Sound Blaster Pro utility software, It won't run.

The reported error is:

Error <Number>: BLASTER environment not complete or incorrect.

<Number> is either 0004, 8004 or 8003 depending on what utility I try to
run.

The manual says that the BLASTER environment should be set like this:

SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 T4

Which is exactly what I have in the AUTOEXEC.BAT and is what the SET command
reports.

The settings are correct, I mean, I am using the 220h base port address,
IRQ 7, DMA channel 1 and my card is type 4.

I am using DR-DOS, EMM386.EXE, Mouse Systems Mouse dirver and Super PCKwik.

The CDPLYR program (To play music CD's) works fine.
Wolfenstein 3D (a very good shareware game) works fine.
Windows operates fine with the Sound Blaster Pro in both WAV and MIDI files.
Microsoft Multimedia Bookeshelf works fine.

Why the other utilities don't ???????????????




Another problem:

I also got a new OKI-DATA windows accelerator (SVGA) and a Samsung FrecMaster
15 monitor (15" flat screen) I runs well at 1024x768x256 under Windows. I
use the 80386 specific Linear address driver included with the card. But
from time to time, some colors in my screen change. White turns to light
Magenta or Cyan. Black gets some funny green spots here and there.

Then after some time, the problem is gone or changes again.

Any suggestions ??????????????????

Thanks a lot.

Shalom,
Memo.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:21:16 -0500
From:         Braden Glen <d246@UNI05.LARC.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Home Schooling...

  I know many of you home school, and I would like to hear from you what courses
and programs you are using, whether secular or religious, and what you feel are
the strong points and weak points of the program. In addition, if I could get
a approimate cost and purchase information of the programs. My neighbor home
school and is very unhappy with her program. Please reply to me personally or
on the list if there is no objections!
  Thanks
  Glen

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(Job titles too numerous    wk 804 865-9387
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UNISYS

'By examining the tongue, physicians find out the diseases of the body; and
 philosophers, the diseases of the mind and heart' -Justin
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 11:39:16 CST
From:         Len Rugen <C4322LR@UMVMA.UMSYSTEM.EDU>
Subject:      Video question

I've seen the last part of a video twice on our local Christian TV
station but haven't cought the beginning to see who or what it is.
The setting is a SCI-FI, people with cyborg stuff.  There is
a confrontation and then people seen walking across a desert to an
oasis(?) setting.  There wasn't a closing title opaque so it may be an
older videro.

Any ideas on who/what this might be?
Thanks

Len Rugen, Sr. Systems Programmer      E-Mail-C4322LR@UMVMA
Information Technology                  Alias-C4322LR@UMVMA.UMSYSTEM.EDU
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401 Clark Hall
Columbia, MO 65211

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:30:32 EST
From:         Dan Harling <harling@ROADRUNNER.PICTEL.COM>
Subject:      Re: QUESTION ON PRAYER

> Date: 07 Jan 1993 11:04:23 -0500 (EST)
> From: Marissa Ratcliff <MRATCLIF%UGA.BITNET@asu.edu>
> Subject: QUESTION ON PRAYER
> To: Multiple recipients of list CHRISTIA <CHRISTIA@asuvm.inre.asu.edu>
>
> I saw a sermon title on a church billboard that has got me wondering.
> The t itle of the sermon is "How to Deal with Unanswered Prayer."  Now,
> what I'm wond ering about is this:  Would God deliberately NOT answer a
> prayer?  I'm not talking about God giving us an answer we didn't
> expect or didn't want; nor am I talking about that nasty habit we have
> of not listening to God if He doesn't say or do exactly what we want
> Him to.

In the vernacular, an "unanswered prayer" is one in which the results
for which one prayed do not come about.  Strictly speaking, this would
be the same thing as God saying "no", or "not yet", or any number of
other answers, but if all one cares about is getting one's way, that's
no better than no answer at all.  I'll bet the sermon will focus on
that very point: that "unanswered prayer" is not unanswered, but
perhaps answered in the negative.


> Does anyone have any ideas? Any scriptures?   Personally, I believe God
> answers all prayer, but I could be wrong.  Perhaps a better title for
> the sermon would have been , "When God Answers Prayer, But Not the Way
> YOU Expected?"

I suspect that's what they mean, but some people might not realize that
they *really* mean the same thing.  Basically, it's a better title to
capture people's attention.  I would probably title a sermon on that
subject similarly.
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                   PictureTel Corp. (so there!)
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:15:05 EST
From:         Julie Nott <STR008@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Full-time motherhood

I want to thank everyone on this list who sent me encouragement letters
either to me personally or to the list.  You don't know how much this
means to me.  I have printed all of them out and plan on showing my
husband and keeping them somewhere so that when I get discouraged In
can look at them and become *encouraged*

I will miss you guys but I may still be able to use my account at the
university.  That is if I get some free time away from my daughter.

By the way, some people asked - I have one child, she is 13 1/2 months
old and her name is Lylah Alexandra - we call her Alex.
She's so sweet, talking, walking, being silly, she's such a joy these
days.

We also have two children that we lost through miscarriages in Dec '90
and May '92.  We *will* meet these children in heaven one day and I
am anticipating that day.

I'm getting pretty anxious for this day to be over with.  It's amazing
how much work comes out of the woodwork on your last day, huh?

I hope to keep in touch.  Again, thanks for the encouragement.

Your sister in Christ, Julie Nott <str008@ukcc.uky.edu>
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:06:01 CST
From:         Yvette Traylor <YST1@DCCCDBIT.BITNET>
Subject:      Late Great Planet Earth - Video

Happy New Year Christia
A co-worker of mine was telling me about this movie that came out in the
70's I believe. Does anyone recall this movie and know if it is on
video. I know the book 'The Late Great Planet Earth' is by Hal Lindsey
and is readily available.
 I am also looking for a copy of 'The Burning Hell' if anybody
knows where either of these movies can be located or how they can be
located, you will help in answering two prayers.  Thanks You in advance,
Yvette

   Yvette Traylor     "We are His people and the sheep of his pasture."
   Dallas County Community College District             Psalm 100:3
   Computer Programmer/Analyst from Dallas - Texas
"I know worse things about myself that you will ever say about me." Anon
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Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:28:03 GMT
From:         "Ian (Travolta) Wylie C2/Q2" <iwylie@MCS.DUNDEE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Unanswered Prayer

Mark,

Thanks a lot, I wasn't going to reply to the "hate" mail ;-)

I admit, after having read about one of the concerts that somebody went to.
Amy Grant does seem to give the Lord glory, at least when its a mainly
Christian audition.

So I am sorry.

But if I may add something, re her intro Guns-n-roses,etc.
I don't believe it is right for her as an ambassador for Christ to get
involved with bands such as the above.

Jesus went to drunkards,prostitutes, all types of sinners, so that He could
show them the kingdom of God.  His message was one of REPENTANCE, and
SALVATION, He was very hard on the unrepentant, such as the Pharisees.

If Amy waters down the gospel to others on MTV, etc, then this is wrong.

I can't imagine CHARLES FINNEY, JOHN WESLEY, GEORGE WHITFIELD, OR JOHN LAKE
being like Amy Grant, in re to how she acts on mtv.

I am not judging her, I have enough in my own walk to judge.
I am just pointing out that she is lukewarm in a few areas.


Re Praying in tongues - long defense coming up soon.

In Christ

Ian Wylie
University of Dundee
Scotland
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:24:00 EST
From:         "DRCV06::GRAHAM" <GRAHAM%DRCV06.decnet@DRCVAX.AF.MIL>
Subject:      IT WORKS LIKE IT SAYS IT WORKS.

Jesse,

I cannot answer your questions about Romans :26 AND THE ALL KNOWING NATURE
OF GOD, BUT, IT WORKS JUST LIKE IT SAYS.  THE SPIRIT TAKES OUR PRAYERS AND
PRESENTS THEM TO GOD.  THE FACT THAT GOD IS ALL KNOWING IS NOT RELEVANT.

TO ME, THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF LETTING KNOWLEDGE GET IN OUR WAY.  WE KNOW
THAT GOD IS OMNISCIENT, AND WE KNOW WHAT IT SAYS IN THIS TEXT.  THE TWO
SEEM TO BE CONTRADICTORY, SO WE THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM.  NOT SO!

WE NEED TO LET THE "PROBLEM" REMAIN, AND NOT WORRY ABOUT IT.  WE CANNOT
FIGURE IT OUT, ANYWAY, SO WHY SHOULD WE BOTHER TRYING.  PAUL CLEARLY SAYS
THE SPIRIT INTERCEDES FOR US, YET CHRIST IS OUR INTERCESSOR, ISN'T HE?
DON'T TRY TO FIGURE OUT IMPONDERABLES, JUST LET ALL BE TRUE.

I KNOW THIS SOUNDS ANTI-INTELLECTUAL, IT IS NOT.  MORE TROUBLE IS GOTTON
INTO BY THINKERS AND THEOLOGIANS TRYING TO CORRELATE AND MAKE SENSE OUT OF
THINGS JUST LIKE THIS THAN IS WARRANTED.  GOD IS INFINITE AND FAR BEYOND
OUR ABILITY TO UNDERSTAND.  TWO THINGS THAT SEEM TO CONTRADICT EACH OTHER
IN OUR LOGIC SYSTEM MAY NOT AT ALL DO SO IN GOD'S.

DAN GRAHAM
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:24:27 EST
From:         "SHELBY A. CROSS" <LIBSAC@EMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      RE:VENTURING INTO FULL-TIME...JULIE

Dear Julie,

A big hooray for you!!!! You will never regret staying home and being a
full-time mother.  I have five children, one son and four girls.  My son
is grown now, but I still have the girls living with me.  Even in America
with all the negative talk going around - you will not regret this choice.
In Prov. 3:5-6 Trust in the Lord and lean not to your own understanding.  In
all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your path.  God will give
you ways to save and cut corners.  He will show you how to raise your child
and the Holy Spirit will walk You daily through what you will have to do
each day.  What a joy!!!!  I won't go start to preaching to you, but I
just wanted you to know, I am very, very, very happy for you. Can't you tell-
(S-m-i-l-e!)

Dear Heavenly Father,

We thank You and praise You for this dear sister in Christ.  We ask You Father
to totally heal her marriage and heal her from her past.  Give Julie and her
husband Your wisdom, knowledge, and understanding to make this a home where You
are in control of everything.  Give them Your love, peace, and joy and let
them be able to have a testimony in the future to help other families.  We
thank You Father for giving her this opportunity to be a full-time mother and
are in agreement with her that all things will work out for good to them who
love You and are called according to Your purpose.  Let them daily get into
Your Word, the Bible, and go forward in Jesus Mighty Name.  Amen and Amen.

Your sister in Christ,

Shelby--

P.S.  Go for it Julie -  In Jesus Name!!!!
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From:         "Ian (Travolta) Wylie C2/Q2" <iwylie@MCS.DUNDEE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: C.S. Lewis

Dear Marissa,

I most heartily agree with your main sentiment, that of worshipping Christ
365 days a year, as He is Risen from the dead.

But as Christians, the Bible tells us to depart from evil.  Therefore if we
know that the origins of Christmas are pagan, surely we should abstain.

I think once you know the truth it comes down to,

"Shall we rather please God or man?"

This is my understanding of the scriptures,  that does not mean, it may be
the right one, I am open to constructive reasoning and criticism



Ian Wylie
University of Dundee
Scotland
E-mail iwylie@uk.ac.dund.mcs
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