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From: edd472a@nella6.cc.monash.edu.au (M.D. Campitelli)
Subject: DBFast
Summary: Is anyone using DBfast v1.7C
Keywords: dbfast
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 02:48:13 GMT

Just a quick question.
	Is anyone using DBFast v1.7C?  We are using it and are having a few 
problems trying to isolate events involving radiobuttons (or listboxes/checkbox)for that matter.  The problem appears to be that these are procedures rather
than functions.  So how can we then create an event handler, that will run the  code for these procedures?
	Any help will be greatly appreciated.
		Matt.

Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.lang.eiffel
From: konpar@eua.ericsson.se (Par.Emanuelsson)
Subject: Re: Persistent Eiffel?
Keywords: persistence ODBMS Eiffel
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 11:09:38 GMT

stevef@bony1.bony.com (Steve Faiwiszewski) writes:

>In article <1992Aug27.144915.17853@nntp.nta.no> olea@hal.nta.no (Ole J. Anfindsen FDA) writes:
>>Can someone tell me whether or not an Eiffel-based ODBMS (persistent Eiffel)
>>is available?
...
>There's one OODBMS called O2, which supposedly works with Eiffel.
>Another, Versant, will in the future: ISE and Versant will develop an
>Eiffel interface jointly.  In the meantime, we've been using Versant's
>C interface to build our own Eiffel interface.  While not, completely
>transparent or automatic, our interface is quite usable.
...

There is also a class library to interface Eiffel with
OODBMS's called EiffelStore (Jean-Marc Nerson is designer).

/Par Emanuelson.
From: U18306@uicvm.uic.edu (Lawrence Isaac)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Borland's Object Vision and Paradox
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:29:37 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

I have to set up a patient database for a research project at my university.
Since I know very little about databases, I need to pick one that:

1. can be learnt quickly
2. requires the least programming (can be programmed through point & click
   menus)
3. takes advantage of Windows 3.1 features- OLE, etc.
4. requires very little intelligence of the end-user
5. puts pretty icons on the screen like Windows programs
6. and you can create lengthy (but simple) forms and reports with.

Speed is not particulary important.

The people I've talked to suggest using Paradox with Borland's Object Vision
2.0. I've never used Object Vision, but I do have some experience with Para-
dox 3.5.

Could someone tell me:

1. If this is a good combination
2. Is there some other database program that might be better in this case
3. Does Paradox 4.0 differ substantially from 3.5
4. What Borland's policies are regarding upgrades to the Windows version from
   Paradox 3.5

I realize that this may not be a question that a lot of people are interested
in. If you prefer, you can mail me directly at:

U09416@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: b912dieg@utarlg.uta.edu (DOUG WITMER)
Subject: Re: R & R ReportWriter for FoxBase
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: report writer
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:44:00 GMT

In article <wolfgang.716238907@sfu.ca>, wolfgang@fraser.sfu.ca (Wolfgang Richter) writes...
>I am considering use R & R Reportwriter version 4.0 to generate
>reports from some FoxBase files that I set up. Has anyone used
>this product? Does anyone have a number I can call to get more
>information from the vendor (e.g. hardware requirements)?
> 
>I remember reading reviews about it before dBase IV
>arrived on the scene with its own report generator. The reviews
>were quite favourable. Is it still a good product for producing
>reports? I need the following features in a report writer:
>-  Able to produce reports from more than one dBase file at a time.
>-  Easy-to-use
>-  Able to send to different kinds of printers (e.g. dot matrix,
>   postscript, etc.)
It's a pretty good package if your requirements aren't too
exacting.  It can produce some kind of a report in short order,
but getting exactly what you want may take a long long time.

Some observations:
  -  R&R is a report writer.  It's not a forms generator!
  -  There is a fairly small limit (9 or 10) to the number
     of files you can associate with your master file.
  -  R&R works with proportional fonts, but if you use them,
     expect to struggle with the formatting.
  -  Performance will be poor if the input files are large.
  -  The xBase code produced by the optional code generator is not 
     completely compatible with the interpreted version of the same
     code.

IMHO program generators are just fine if you can accept what they
generate.  If you need a little more, you are generally better off
to write your programs from scratch.
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: nallappa@ssvs.gsfc.nasa.gov (bhashyam nallappa)
Subject: japanese script and database
Keywords: Kanji
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:14:30 GMT


I am working on a project which deals with the Japanese script
called Kanji. I would like to know if you netters had any
experience with Kanji. I am especially interested in 
archiving techniques in kanji. Any experince dealing with database and
kanji will be of enormous help. 
thanks
bhashyam
nallappa@ssvs.gsfc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.databases,bit.listserv.dbase-l
From: caegalla@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Ernie Gallant)
Subject: Re: Clipper: Backup/Restore routines for BIG files...
Summary: Backing up and restoring files in Clipper
Keywords: Backup restore code
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:10:55 GMT

In article <durai.32@ORTTA> durai@ORTTA (Appadurai V.) writes:
>What about zipping those files ?

Back a couple of years ago I downloaded some source code that will backup
and restore large files or a number of files over a number of diskettes.
It was written and put in public domain by someone in Switzerland.  It is
entirely written in clipper and works beautifully.  I have included it in 
my applications for the past year.

For anyone who has access to E-mail and 'uuencode' & 'uudecode' I would be
willing to send them a copy.

*********************************************************************
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*   P.O.Box 1344                *                                   *
*   Charlottetown P.E.I.        *                                   *
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Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: dboyce@hemel.bull.co.uk (David Boyce)
Subject: Re: Hot Standby DBMS's
Organization: Bull HN UK
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 11:27:49 GMT

dhepner@cup.hp.com (Dan Hepner) writes:

>[I wrote:]

>>Interfaces for obtaining journal data from an RM and passing it to an
>>standby RM would be needed, as would RM-independent methods of recovery
>>and catch-up.  Not beyond the wit of man, I would have thought.
>>
>>Obviously the database vendors need to be convinced of the need to make
>>this interface available. 

>Any ideas on how to convince them?  In particular, it needs to be
>shown what can be done using this scheme which the DB vendors 
>could not do themselves.  Intuitively, one would say "but it's
>more open".  In what way does this openness benefit anyone?

Obviously, any given DB vendor could (given sufficient justification)
implement their own RHS (Remote Hot Standby) DB.  This justification is
work for the marketeers, one of whom I am not.

My argument proceeds on the assumption that such justification exists,
in order to establish the need for an 'open' RHS protocol standard.

Owing to the increase in customer interest and use of Distributed TP
systems (around Tuxedo, Encina etc.) it seems inevitable that DTP-RHS
combined functionality will become important for some customers.  These
are the people for whom 'such openness' is important.

Since the working of RHS is based around the ability to restart
transactions, the extention of this into DTP involves restarting
Distributed transactions.  This requires the cooperation of the
Transaction Manager - hence the need for an Open RHS protocol.

DB vendors / Transaction Manager vendors which can offer such a
combination of functionality clearly have the edge in that segment of
the market which needs it investment).

The bottom line is, what is the size (actual or potential) of this
market segment?  I can't answer that.

--
David Boyce	(David.Boyce@hemel.bull.co.uk) 
                Tel: +44-442-884468	BULL HN Information Systems Ltd.
                Fax: +44-442-884570	1, Three Cherry Trees Lane,
          				Hemel Hempstead, Herts HP2 7DZ
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: shan@ms.uky.edu (Minghua SHAN)
Subject: WANTED: Information on databases for unix (on SPARC 490)
Keywords: db, database, sun, sparc, informix, ingres, paradox
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:46:30 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Hello,

We are looking for a database product to manage information about
AD patients. It will be run on a SPARC 490 (unix).
I am new to database and it is my understanding that many of the
popular DBMS's, such as Informix, ORACLE, Ingres and db-VISTA, are
tools for developing database applications, and much programming
needs to be done before the end-users can use the system.
Since we don't have the time and resources to do the programming,
we are looking for something that is (almost) ready to run out of 
the box. Is there such a thing for the unix enviorenment?
Some people suggest running Paradox for DOS/Windows on the
SPARC 490. Is this advisable?

Any suggestion/comments would be greatly appreciated.

Minghua Shan
Sanders-Brown Research Center on Aging
University of Kentucky

Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: dent@DIALix.oz.au (Andrew Dent)
Subject: Re: C-tree and db-VISTA, any experiances ?
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 01:01:30 GMT

walz@elde1.epfl.ch writes:


>I plan to write an interactive database application generator and I'm
>looking for a database engine I can use for this. I've had a look on
>Faircom's C-tree and Raima's db-VISTA. Has anybody had good or bad
>experiance with one of those products of with some other similar products
>(C-written database engines in source form) ?

I've written (on the Mac) a multi-user classified ads publishing system
using c-tree. I wrote my own object-oriented layer to group data files together
and use techniques similar to dBase in that I have a fixed-length set of
object fields in an ISAM file and variable length object data (2kb or more pre
record) stored in a direct file. I have been VERY happy with the performance
running over LocalTalk (230kb/sec) between Mac Classic clients and a IIci 
server, using AppleShare 3.

Andy Dent (A.D. Software - Mac & VAX programming)
94 Bermuda Dve, BALLAJURA  Western Australia  6066
Phone/Fax: 09 249 2719 (local)  +619 249 2719 (International)
       Internet: dent@DIALix.oz.au    Compuserve: 100033,3241

Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: denisl@col.hp.com (Denis Lambert)
Subject: Paradox Engine, TPW, & VB????
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:19:52 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Has anybody out there used the Paradox Engine DLL with Turbo Pascal for
Windows?  The documentation talks a lot about the engine DLL with Borland
C++, but it doesn't mention TPW at all.  The Pascal files on the distribution
disk contains a file with all of the function prototypes that is nearly 
identical to the engine .h file for C, but the C version comes with a .LIB
file that needs to be linked with your C code.  What is in this .LIB file?
Do you need to get something similar for TPW or is this .LIB file merely
have export and external declarations?  Can I just create a TPW unit with 
function prototypes declared as external that match the C function
prototypes?

Second question.  I am developing a prototype and I would like to use Visual
Basic for the user interface.  Has anyone interfaced VB and the Paradox
Engine DLL?  Are there any difficulties or gotcha's?

Thanks for your help.

Denis Lambert
denisl@col.hp.com

Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: dhepner@cup.hp.com (Dan Hepner)
Subject: Re: Hot Standby DBMS's
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:39:58 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

From: glenn@ludwig.sharebase.com (Glenn Linderman)

>-> Any ideas on how to convince them? 

>The point of passing the journal data from the master RM to a Hot Standby RM
>is performance: 
 [but..]
>As a result, then, you would have an extremely complicated translation
>system that would probably be as slow as or slower than the original
>queries.  So passing the original queries to both machines in parallel
>via a TM sounds like a pretty good alternative, and you can have that
>today.
>GLenn

What you can't have today is any sensible way to resynchronize
when an out-of-date copy is to be brought back on-line.  We have
discussed before why the input stream cannot be logged for
future replay, but the journal stream could be.

I think the first-order performance evaluation is that journal 
data is more consumptive of communication bandwidth, the input 
stream is more consumptive of cycles at the standby machine. 
For most people, a small advantage to the input stream, but
not enough to drive an entire industry to make that decision.

Dan Hepner
Xref: sparky comp.databases:6684 comp.databases.ingres:1357
From: hughes@swine.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.databases,comp.databases.ingres
Subject: Re: Databases & Ethics
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:03:58 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

I think this is a good topic for this group.  I think that more money is spent
on research which may violate privacy than on reasearch for appropriate limits
to privacy.

I'd like to see researchers in the area of databases take the initiative in
this area.  I think the problem can be divided into two questions:
  1.  What are the limits of privacy?
  2.  How do we make database applications that respect these limits?

I think there's plenty of hard work to be done on #2.  Perhaps the results
of other work on question #1 can be applied.

Eric Hughes
University of Illinois
From: giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Is there a News Group on Unify on Usenet
Summary: Unify Corporation Newsgroup
Keywords: Is there a News Group on Unify on Usenet
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:44:09 GMT
Followup-To: giand@opencon.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: OpenCon Systems, Inc.


Is there any newgroup on the Unify Corporation and its Database
products.  If so could you please let me know via E-mail so that we
can get our site to subscribe to it.  Thanks in advace for you
help. Sorry if this is covered in the FAQ -- but I haven't seen any
articles on Unify so the reason for this post.

	Deepak
Newsgroups: comp.databases
From: durai@ORTTA (Appadurai V.)
Subject: Re: FoxPro2 problems
Organization: U of Mn
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:02:34 GMT

Reply to <BuBMuK.B9K@news.cso.uiuc.edu> weller@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Bonnie 
Weller) posting on Foxpro2 problems:

Users always present a convoluted picture of their problems.  We 
programmers, do the same thing when we take sides.  No offence. I have not 
understood your problem in its entirety.  However, <hey, I just love this 
word> here's my humble attempt to decipher your problem.

*** the format allows for 2 records to be printed per line

I dont understand.  You can only print one record per line, unless you have 
a snake report logic built in.  You cannot define a snaked report logic 
using foxpro report format, as far as I know.  

Assuming you are trying to print one record per line..

*** weird symbols like @s...

Check your printer definition.  You have to convey the appropriate symbol 
set, either using an escape sequence or using printer drivers.  You can 
set up printer drivers using the "printer driver setup" option, available 
under "report layout" under "report" popup, when you open the report 
format.  

*** it shows the same record 10 times instead of...

1) Did you save the query results to a database ?  You might have just done 
a browse.  To save the results to a database, you have to specifically 
choose "table" as your output form.

2) When you defined the report a.frx, you might have saved the environment 
a.dbf, along with it.  In that case, it will always open a.dbf when you run 
the report.  Open the report, save it without the environment <using "clear" 
option under "report layout">.  Open the Q.dbf and now run the report.  The 
report format will take the data from Q.dbf.  (You may want to save the 
environment, now that you have Q.dbf)

3) If you want to run the report using A.dbf, for a condition, you dont even 
need to generate a query.  If I knew more about the type of condition, I can 
argue further.  You can build your query condition into your report.. report 
format <blahblah> to printer for <query condition>.. should do it.

4) Check the "suppress" check box for each field, in order to suppress 
repeated data.  I am not very clear about what you meant by "it shows the 
same record".

*** is ther a foxpro2 book...

I found the Foxpro "Getting Started" manual very useful to learn the 
basics.  I have not found any other book that deals with the subject in as 
lucid a manner.  

If you need more help, email would be great.
From: someday@milton.u.washington.edu (Scott Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.databases
Subject: Re: Advanced Revelation Users?
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:24:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep10.222454.13692
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <price.716151782@helios> price@helios.unl.edu (Chad  Price) writes:
>dtodd@titan.ucc.umass.edu (David M. Todd) writes:
>
>
>>Are there any ARev users in this newsgroup?  I'd like to know if this is
>>a place to get/give help with Arev.
>
>>If there were enough of us around, what about setting up an
>>Arev-specific newsgroup?
>
>Count me as a user. There is also a employee of Rev Tech who follows this
>group. Perhaps you are volunteering to count the users of are to ascertain the
>interest level??
>
>chad
>--
>chad
>price@helios.unl.edu
>cprice@molecular.unmc.edu

Here!  I'm that employee of Revelation Technologies hanging around.  Not 
officially (we have a Compu$erve forum for that) but I do try to read this
group every day or so.  

Maybe (hopefully!) AREV traffic here can pick up as people start using
version 3.0 of AREV.  Should generate lots more feedback from people.

-Scott Johnson
 not a spokesman for,
 but sometimes in agreement with,
 Revelation Technologies, Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
From: hackes@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Brakweh)
Subject: Question: Transaction log
Organization: Uni Paderborn FB 17 Informatik GERMANY
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:44:46 GMT

Hi folks.

I'm working with Accell/Sybase and got an astonishing effect.

When I gave the 4GL command 'update current record'
I got the error message 'Transaction full.....' although I dumped the tran some seconds before.

Then I wrote 'insert into .....' instead of 'update current record' everything went fine.

So this must be an effect caused by the Sybase transaction management.

Any suggestions??

Greetings from Germany
Markus

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Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
From: luciano@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Luciano Candiani)
Subject: Sybase + Unix 386 + X-Windows
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:32:47 GMT

Sorry if is't a FAQ and my english

Do you know if it is possible to run Sybase
in the X-window environment on a 386 based Unix
machine?

I have the Iteractive/386 Unix OS (rel. 3.2) and
Sybase rel. 4.2, but I'm unable to run it under X.

(Reply via e-mail is you prefer).

Thanks in advance

-- 
Luciano Candiani			Phone  : +39-2-55006391
Computer Science Dep. Milan University 	Fax    : +39-2-55006205
Via Comelico 39				Telex  : 335199 - MIDSII
I-20135 Milano - Italy - `92 Europe	E-Mail : luciano@ghost.dsi.unimi.it
From: tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM (Todd Hoff)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: dbwritetext problems
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:06:28 GMT
Reply-To: tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: oogoody.corp.sun.com

I'm having trouble writing more than 32K to a text field. I use dbsetopt
to set DBTEXTSIZE to a 1000000 bytes but it doesn't seem to work. The
text is always truncated. dbsetopt returns SUCCESS. 

Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanx
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
From: howard@cs.iastate.edu (Chris howard)
Subject: Re: Sequencer or Serial
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:04:36 GMT

mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:

>Why not set up one table, with one column of type int.  Lock
>the table when accessing/updating it.  The idea is that this
>column will hold a counter . . . just increment the column
>each time you read the number . . 

>Mark

Well, we thought of that, but we have been unable to determine how to
get an exclusive lock on that column between the time that we read
the counter, and the time it is updated.

The best answer we've come up with is to use a trigger on Update to
grab the value after incrementing it.  It seems like a hack... at best.
From: ben@sybase.com (Benjamin von Ullrich)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Re: Shared Memory & Upgrade to 4.8: READ THE INSTALL GUIDE!
Date: 12 Sep 92 12:20:05 GMT
Organization: sybase, inc., emeryville-across-from-SF, ca

info about SHMEM and other kernel requirements on your SQL Server machine are
all carefully listed in the INSTALLATION GUIDE for your platform's 4.8 SQL
Server upgrade.  this document contains a good deal of MUST READ information on
upgrading to 4.8 .  the upgrade does a good deal of changes to all your
databases, amd must not be taken lightly.  As with any software package, PLEASE
READ THE INSTALL GUIDE BEFORE PROCEEDING WITH ANY UPGRADE!

--
..ben
------
Benjamin von Ullrich		 only i do the talking here -- not my employer.
ben@sybase.com			       {pyramid,pacbell,sun,lll-tis}!sybase!ben
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
From: alg@is.morgan.com (Al Guintu)
Subject: exact format of a bcp file
Organization: Morgan Stanley Equity Derivatives
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:54:20 GMT



does anyone know the exact format of a bcp *.fmt file?
the problem is that my input file has columns that don't
exactly match the destination sybase table, and i can't
get bcp to do what i want.

i've been trying to find this in the sybase manuals. so
far i've been unsuccessful.



bcp'ed off,
/al


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From: dmenns@muug.mb.ca (Darren Enns)
Newsgroups: comp.databases.sybase
Subject: Using NULLS
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:43:27 GMT
Distribution: comp.databases.sybase
Organization: Manitoba Unix User Group, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada

This is my first posting to this newsgroup -- please bear with me...

It has lately been proposed at work -- just prior to going whole hog into
Sybase client/server application development -- that the DBA's allow the
use of blanks (and zeros) instead of forcing NULLS.  Since I am one of
those DBA's, I need some 'real world' feedback from other DBA's to justify
my position of using NULLS, otherwise I will be accused of simply insisting
on an 'acedemia' concept that is impractical in the real world.  I am 
already aware of the classic reason for NULLS -- meaningful number
calculations.  I plead for more feedback -- either pro or con -- so that
either I can justify my position or feel comfortable in abandoning it.
Thanx!

Dare