HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: How is profit calculated for a subsidiary?
Reply-To: uds@trace.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:10:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.165209.18139@csc.ti.com> krishnan@ra.csc.ti.com (Srinivasan Krishnan) writes:
>
>How is profit calculated for a subsidiary of a foreign company located in
>India? For example, many foreign software companies have their subsidiaries
>(assume a 100 percent export oriented unit owned by a foreign firm)
>in India that develop software for their parent companies.  The parent
>companies pay a sum to their subsidiaries (I assume this one) to execute
>the project. What is the profit made by the subsidiary in this case?
>Is it the amount saved by the sudsidiary out of the amount paid by the 
>parent company or is it the amount saved by the parent company if the 
>same project were executed at the location of the parent company or is it
>something else?


I do not know much about the profits, but till liberalization (1986), the caital
investement of a foriegn multi-national was locked into india.  The only
hope of getting that money was through a sale (approved by RBI & GOI) ot one of
the many NRIs.  I do remember that profits were NOT to be repatriated
until recently.  The profits were used to `fatten the pig' (i.e., the subsidiary
here in India), so that the NRI will pay a higher price than other wise...

This was considered highly profitable venture.  Lot of consumer-product multinationals
attempted to enter india in this form during IG days !!  But IG never let them
in, because every one in GOI knew the plans of the investors...


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: HOW WE TIP IN RESTAURANTS
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:15:12 GMT

(Devender Reddy) writes:
>
>Recently my friend was waiting on some Indians. My friend told the manager
>that he does not want to wait on these people, but he was forced to.They were 
>a group of 7. They had drinks and food. The bill was about $130 and these 
>people tipped him $4.00. He was really  mad and told them to take the  
>money back and he does not need it. And guess what the reply was. They said 
>that it was a lot of money and they converted the 4 dollars and said that 
>120 rupees is a lot of money back home.
>
>I guess most of our people work in restaurants because of the tuition fees
>other expenses. We need to support them by atleast paying a little bit more 
>than the average. 

I don't mean to be rude, but my answer is 'Tough!"

If they treat tip as a gratuituous payment, they should shut up and take 
what they get and be professional about it.

However, if they see tip as a means of survival in business, they
should consolidate it into the final amount and save everybody lots
of heartache (like they do in Europe).

By definition, you cannot demand a gratuity, nor do I see the reason why
anyone should even pay it. I don't pay gratuity to my garbageman who picks 
up my trash every week, why should pay the waiter whom I may never see again?

Prabhakar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: Islam and Science (an explanation)
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:15:56 GMT

(KHAN,RAHEEL) writes:
>
>At the heart of the debate is a deeper issue.  The issue infact is of man's
>rebellion against his Creator, of his concieted proclamation of sufficiency and
>independence from God.  
>
I recently had a very long discussion with a friend of mine who happens
to be a muslim. 

The following were some of the questions I had. I would like
to know what you think of them.

1. Does Islam require its followers to suspend their thinking and
   accept the scripture as the word of God, not to be explained
   nor questioned, but simply adhered to?

2. If 1 is true, then it appears to me that Muslims must not
   engage in any scientific dialectic on Islam, but simply say,
   "It is the word of God. Period." Which, it appears to me, is
   fine! Any discussion of Islam will then be counterproductive
   to the premise.

   Further, if Islam states that anyone who questions the said
   provisions and fails to adhere to them cannot be a true
   Muslim, then many perahps would not qualify. Is this a fact?
   (I am stating this because I heard from many people that
   Islam prohibits acceptance or disbursal of interest on a
   loan or investment. Which means that many in the Western world
   will not qualify. Is this true!)

3. However, if Islam does allow analysis of Quran from a rational
   (which might change from person to person) perspective, it 
   should then allow for the possibility that some may conclude
   that a few provisions or edicts of Islam have no scientific
   basis and hence decide not to follow them and *still* be
   Muslims. Then, it necessarily follows, different people will
   have different views on what they think is Islam and this
   implies that there cannot be an absolute interpretation of
   the Word. Is this correct?

Hping to hear,

Satya Prabhakar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajain@scotty.ecs.umass.edu (Rajat Jain)
Subject: Re: Doki & his posts
Keywords: Sissy who posted to doki's SYS/ADMIN !
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:34:23 GMT

In article <1ejfh0INN1n1@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki) writes:
|> (Raghunandan Naik) writes:
|> 
|> >Directed to The Person who sent mail to sdoki's SYS/ADMIN!
|> >Hey Buddy,
|> >Go get a job and learn to deal with posts like doki's.  If you can't
|> >handle them, then DON'T READ THEM. Stop comlaining and learn to deal 
|> >with life !!
|> >Next time, instead of sending mail to someone's sys-admin, spend that
|> >time seeing a psychiatrist in order to improve your self esteem.
|> >Jeeeez
|> >-raghu
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> thanx a ton dooode!

	You are welcome :)

|> 
|> 
|> suresh
|> 
|> 
   rAjAt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: Ed Crick
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 05:32:22 GMT

In article <1404@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
>crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD)) writes:
>: In article <1992Nov12.185039.19646@reed.edu> gsinghma@reed.edu (Gaurav Singhmar) writes:
>
>Mr Singhmar, don't be afraid of these cowardly threats. Please go
>ahead with your work. There is nothing wrong in carrying out

You would show your true colors as a fool if you took advice from a jackass
such as Nimmala, who contributes to SCI frequently with his orations on
the morality of racism and his sexual exploits with fungi and bacteria.

>earlier than January. BTW, best of luck with your work, and feel
>free to contact me if you need any help.
>SN


Just as a deer, fleeing across the roadway from a hunter, needs help from
a passing car.  

Ed
From: fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Prabhu's blues :)
Date: 21 Nov 1992 18:12:15 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

From: balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman)

Why should this be?
-------------------

Why do I feel depressed?
Why do I feel the blues?
Why do I feel sorrow,
in all colors and hues?
	[deleted]
Prabs                                   



	Arre Prabhu Sir Balaraman,
	In the sad for a woman??
	Have some funly..have some games,
	Flame some dames and date some flames :)

		Why for in the sorrows you drowns?
		Smiling-smiling...forgetting frowns.
		Homework-shomework in the drain,
		Why for troubling poor brain?

	Writing like the olden timoo,
	Scruffing SP, Seetamraju :)
	Praisu lassu,blues will passu,
	Happy in the hay you'll tossu :):)

	FFT
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:37215 soc.religion.islam:1854
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: * Hindi Movies * - reviews...
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:56:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.191609.13428@bmerh85.bnr.ca> vilok@bmerh322.bnr.ca (Vilok Kusumakar) writes:
>In article <92322.113851U26043@uicvm.uic.edu> SALIM <U26043@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>Yaalgaar         ---- starring Feroz Khan, Manisha Korela
>>              Time waster.  Songs were so-so.  Don't waste
>>              your money.
>
>Don't agree at all. Yalgaar (not "Yaalgaar", meaning Attack) is a good 
>movie with excellent songs. Watched it on full screen. Manisha Koirala is
>excellent.
>
Maybe someone should post a brief summary of the movie (sans the conclusion)
so that we might be able to decide  it it is the usual masaala or not.

regards,
--   
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: barakam@infonode.ingr.com (Sreedhar Barakam)
Subject: Speak for yourself!  Re: INDIAN CULTURE - Subservient
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:30:55 GMT


Whoever started this thread,  I think it is better if he speaks for 
himself.

There is no need to generalize an entire country.  
On what basis is this generalization is arrived at?  
Probably the poster is mistakenly identifying his own subservient 
character and the fact that he is an Indian with "Indian" character.

May be it has been a long time that he has visited India and 
hopefully it will be proven otherwise in the best manner possible
the next time he visits India :)


Sreedhar Barakam

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Pretty Woman (walkin' down the street : -) )
Subject: <tee! hee!> Re: Looking for Brahmin Girl for Talk?!? 
Organization: Let's talk about ....uMaSs !!!!
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:47:33 GMT

In article <92319.155938AUASV@ASUACAD.BITNET>, <AUASV@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
	[iNtErEsTiNg stuff deleted ]

|> 
|> What else would you like to know?  I only want to talk to some girl out there
				      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> for the fun and not for any misbehaving.  I'm not a strong Indian, Hindu, goal
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	
	oh damn!!! I "almost" replied to your posting before I saw that
	you were interested *only* in talking......THAT'S NO FUN !!!!!

	Tough Luck :)


|> 
|>                                                       Thanx,
					
							You are Belcome !!
								^ :-)

|> 
|>                                                  Ashish "Julio" Vaidya


						yOuR fRiEnDlY sCi-Er !!!

						    (guess whooooo ?)
From: fina2f@rosie.uh.edu (Venkatesh, P. C.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Excluding men
Followup-To: alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Date: 19 Nov 1992 16:10 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rosie.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

---
Posted for Susan Chacko, please send mail to susanc@helix.nih.gov
---

(this article was posted on a.c.u.a-i and cross-posted here, but I
didn't see it here so I'm reposting it. Apologies if any of you see
it twice)

In article <1992Nov18.002019.26782@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>, alok@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alok.vijayvargia) writes...
>
>
>Could we see some sort of a vote count or referendum among the subscribers
>of this mailing list on this issue ?
> 
>Just post the results on sci, acuai etc.
> 

Thank you for the kind suggestion. The mailing list is private, and
there's absolutely no need to justify its policies. Although we do 
use 'public' resources, such as the internet, that doesn't mean that 
the mailing list must be public too. If this were not so, I could 
demand that you post all your private email on this newsgroup, since 
your mail also travels by the tax-supported internet.

As I said, there's no *requirement* that the policies of the mailing
list be justified. However, the question of male participation has
been much discussed in the mailing list and on these newsgroups, so
it's clear that there are many different positions on the issue,
among the members and the world at large, and it's good that they
were discussed. I do, however, think that it's been discussed to
death.

>How would others know about these so called womens issues if there is
>limited access to this group ?  I mean how are men going to know about
>these womens issues ? Are the moderators or somebody going to post 
>summaries of these issues on the open groups like sci or acuai etc ?
>Would there be an open discussion on these issues after such summary
>postings ? Will the result of these open discussions then be discussed
>on the private maillist and so on ? I mean - what is the mechanism you
>or the organizers of this private mailing list propose to have men
>involved at some point ? Do you see the need at all of having men
>involved at some point in future ?
> 

Whether men are involved at some time in the future depends entirely
on the members of the mailing list, who may or may not change their
current positions over time. Some of the discussions on the mailing
list may be summarised and cross-posted, but there's no organized
plan to transfer material between s.c.i. and the mailing list, and
I doubt that there will be in future. Women's issues occasionally
come up on s.c.i, and everyone, whether part of the mailing list or
not, is welcome to discuss them here.

Susan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jlaranha@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Jeevan Levin Aranha)
Subject: Info needed on where to subscribe to INDIAN magazines in US !
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:52:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

Hi Netters,

Could someone please provide me with addresses or Tel #'s of stores that

sell Indian magazines in the U.S.

Please E-mail me.

Thanks .


Jeevan Aranha

UNIVERSITY DE SOONERS !


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian-indian,rec.music.indian.misc,rec.music.indian.classical,osu.indian,osu.music
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: PANKAJ UDHAS **** LIVE **** COLUMBUS OHIO
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 18:42:21 GMT

Please ! This group is about CLASSICAL music ...
                             =========
From: doshi@earth.njit.edu (M Doshi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Lawyers
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:17:26 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Dear netters

	How about survey on lawyers. Since most of us are on F1. will apply
for H1 and green-card. Needs Lawyer at one stage or another.

	So anybody had any experience with lawyer e-mail me all the infirmation
regarding him, with his name and address and voice number. I'll compiled the
replies and post the summmary on net. Hope to get good response.



===============================================================================
Manish Doshi                                   Dreams are not meant
doshi@earth.njit.edu                           To come TRUE
(201)482-1567                                  They are meant
                                               To be ACHIEVED

Let my Soul smile through my Heart
Let my Heart smile through my Eyes
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Subject: Re: Sitamarhi Riots: Yet Another Example of Muslim Intolerance
Keywords: Riots, Muslim
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:36:45 GMT



A very provocative title to the article indeed.

But its interesting to note that the riots were instigated by politicians on
both sides of the communal divide. 

The tone of the article suggests that Muslims as a community have been
singularly reponsible for all Hindu-Muslim riots but does not explain why they
have also always paid the highest price.

The article very clearly shows how politicians are the ones who have been
the ones who have polarised the two communities but comes to the extraordinary
conclusion that common muslims are responsible for for the massacre in which
they are always the victims. That acts of hatred are a feature of criminals
irrespective of religious affiliation are summarily ignored and instead builds
upon the theory that it is a characteristic of the Muslim community to produce
hatemongers.

Part of the problem lies in the increasing tendency of Indians (Muslims and
Hindus alike) who are supposed to be the educated elite and form or will form
the leaders of society, to find convenient scapegoats to butter their pet 
fears. 

--Javed.
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Einstein on religion
Date: 23 Nov 1992 18:17:31 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <9211232206.AA15944@ho12.eng.ua.edu> bkannan@ho12.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan) writes:
>Vijay Fafat:
>>An interesting quote by Einstein on the subject of religion :
>>"Religious thought is an attempt to find an out where there are no doors."
>>---A. Einstein (1938?)
>
>        and Einsteinian thought??

	
	And Einsteinian thought was: All the physical laws put together
	form my God. People frequently mistake his reference to God in
	"God might be subtle but surely, he's not malicious" as a proof
	that Einstein was a theist. Einstein might have believed in God as an
	"inner strength" but he never accepted Him as a physical entity.

	FFT
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Open Invitation to Deb Chatterjee
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:20:04 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Hello Mr/Doctor/Professor Deb Chatterjee, unfortunately I deleted
(sorry for the blunder) the mail that you have sent to me few days
ago. I vividly remember that you were accusing me of breaking India
and you would take all necessary steps to deport me from US. I kept
laughing for few days, and in that excitement I deleted your mail.
Can you please send OR post that stuff again? You better
post it on the net, so that our desis can have good time-pass.
Also, may I request you to post to the net the personal mails that
you sent to various people, threatening them with your fanatic
wordings. Deb, remember one thing, all the revolutionists through
out the world have encountered people like you.

Thanks for your time, Mr/Dr Prof Chatterjee.


SN
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sundaram@me.uta.edu (Ravi 'Kity Bum' Sundaram)
Subject: Gainsville Fl to Dallas Tx, Car trip anyone?
Organization: none
Distribution: soc
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:26:11 GMT

My cousin wants to visit me during Thanks Giving Weekend by road.
Looking for possible companions to share the ride (and costs :-)
Interested parties please contact by e-mail.

Ravi Sundaram

sundaram@me.uta.edu
sundaram@utacfd.uta.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nayar@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Naresh Nayar)
Subject: Missing subject header
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:50:19 GMT
Distribution: USA
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester




Could someone post/email the list of baby names.	

Thanks,
Naresh                                                       
				      	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kumar@raleng.mtc.com
Subject: Re: computer dealers in India
Organization: Memorex Telex, Raleigh, N.C.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:12:43 GMT

In article <92322.113510U26043@uicvm.uic.edu>, U26043@uicvm.uic.edu (SALIM) writes:
> Hi, I am looking for people involved in the computer industry in
> India. (buys or sells computers and their components).
> Please respond  with any information to my account.
> 
>                                                      Salim Lakha
>                                                      u26043@uicvm.uic.edu

Salim,
	Please post any responses to your question. I am also interested
developing contacts in India.

Thanks in advance..
From: pnarayan@leland.Stanford.EDU (V G Narayanan)
Subject: Another Green Card Question
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 05:00:07 GMT


I have another green card question for the net gurus. Someone I know
was rejected her green card during the interview back in India. She
had come here on a tourist visa and gotten married here. Her husband
took up US citizenship and she applied for her green card. It has been
denied to her because the U.S consulate thinks she got married in India
before she left for the US. Any similar experiences and what was tried
and what were the results etc. would be very much appreciated.

	Please send me e-mail at pnarayanan@gsb-yen.stanford.edu

	Thanks for your time. 


Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:37732 soc.culture.indian.telugu:1136
From: dxn@ivy.wpi.edu (Deepak Narain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: i am bored
Followup-To: poster
Date: 20 Nov 1992 07:41:44 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ivy.wpi.edu

sdoki@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Suresh Doki):

>it is like 2:10 in the morning and my OS does not seem to work for
>some reason...... can someone help me out. it was working until
>yesterday. 

Sure, just replace the (INT32 *)Z502_REG_ARG1.PTR in line 92
of services.c with *(INT32 *)Z502_REG_ARG1.PTR.  If that doesn't
work, send me some email and I'll ask Tippy to help you out.

>                               __---__
>                       __--( /     \ )XXXXXXXXX---__
>                     --XXX(   o   o  )-------XXXXXXX--
>                    /XXX(       u     )        --_XXXX\

Du-uh, nice sig, dude.  

--
deepak
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MOLCOM X, A TRUE REVOLUTIONIST.
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:05:50 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <1443@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala) writes:
|> Hay guys/gals, the movie "Molcom X" is getting released
|> tomorrow, and my suggestion to all is to take a 
|> break from these news groups and watch that movie.
|> The life story of Molcom X, an inspiration to all
|> revolutionists in the world, is much more worthwhile than
|> involving in useless discussions(including my own
|> experience). Warch the movie at your earliest convenience.

And as a way of getting a different view of the same man,
those of you who can should also check out the reviews in TIME
as well as an ed-page article by Kevin Pritchett in the Wall
Street Journal last Thursday or Friday.

|> 
|> --NS
|> 

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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