HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Summary: Not another obscure make!
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Reply-To: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Organization: Eisenfaust owners club of America
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:51:40 GMT

bill@wsuaix (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>stine@athena.cs.uga.edu (Elizabeth Stine) writes:

>>Engine makers said that the engines couldn't run unleaded gas because of valve
>>burning. Yet, come to find out, most of the engines that had this warning 
>>already had hardened valve seats and this whole mess was just a smoke screen.

The cylinder head I just pulled off my 71 240Z had bronze alloy valve
seats.  Not exactly what one would call "hard".  I assume that all of
the other Datsun motors of the time were simularily equiped.

>Most of you were probably still in diapers when unleaded gas hit the market
>so a word is in order.

Yes, I was in diapers then, much to the amusment of the other sixth
graders.

>For the record, I use 10% ethanol spiked gas in both my Spagthorpes and
>in my FJ.  I go out of my way to vary suppliers for fuel and the alcohol
>fuels get their turn.  It has never been a problem.   

I've always used 105 octane race gas in my Eisenfaust Vulture.  Count
Gustaf Von Eisenfaust himself prefered to run benzene with the nitrous
oxide injection turned up full.  I've found that the heat from rear
cylinder of the 3 cylinder radial (based on a WW2 torpedo motor),
being immersed in the transmission fluid, causes the fluid to break
down prematurely when I pop the old Buzzard's bottle that hard.  I've
also tried Avgas, but the lead buildup on the rotary valves causes
them to seize up after a while requireing compelete dissassembly of
the transmission and motor.

>Ride fueled,
Ride Gassed,

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1949 Eisenfaust Vulture/1988 FZR400/1985 ZX900 Ninja/1977 RD400D
  Eeet goes like steenk mit a leetle beet uf zee Nitrous, Ya!
                                   - Count Gustaf Von Eisenfaust
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup)
Subject: Re: Leaning into it
Organization: pnet
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:51:07 GMT

labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) writes:
: 
: Sure you can lean a bike then go into the curve but if you find that you 
  don't have enough lean angle for the turn
: then you might just high side before you could get the weight shift
: to work for you.
: 

	Huh? How in the world are you going to HIGHSIDE going into a
corner and suddenly realizing that you are not leaned over enough? Last
time I saw a high side (the guy in front of me at the race track, great
view) the bikes rear slid out completly and then grabbed again. Slinging
it's ex-pilot into the sky. High siding on the street is not a common
accident, unless you think you're Joe racer and routinely slide the rear
on the boulevard. 
	

 ==============================================================================
  Erik Astrup                   DOD #683                            AFM #422

  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1988 NX-650  *  1980 GL1100 Interstate

      "This one goes to eleven" - Nigel Tufnel, lead guitar, Spinal Tap
 ==============================================================================



	

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Stupid Questions
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:55:08

"osborn" == John Howard Osborn <osborn@cs.utexas.edu> writes:

osborn> In no particular order, here are some things I've been
osborn> wondering about...

And in no particular order, some random statements that have little,
if anything, to do with your questions... :-)

osborn> 1.  Why don't Cagiva, Aprilla, Gilera, Triumph, Norton, Royal
osborn> Enfield, Jawa, or CZ sell bikes in the US?

DOT regs, perhaps?  Emissions controls (for some of those companies)?

osborn> 2.  Will BMW continue to sell the old pushrod R-bikes along
osborn> with the new 4-valve bikes?

I hope not.  It'd make my R100R *really* worth keeping. :-)

osborn> 4.  What will happen if I try to run my BMW on 70-octane
osborn> gasoline?

A horde of german engineers will surgically remove the knowledge of
BMWs from your brain...

osborn> 6.  What was the ugliest motorcycle ever produced?  (New, not
osborn> ratted out.)

The 1992 BMW R100GSPD.  Especially the green ones.

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
From: tavares@danville (Jack Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drinking & Helmets
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:24:08 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Wm. L. Ranck (ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu) wrote:
: No, no, no.  To really uphold DoD standards for aesthetics and eye-catching
: good looks you need to get one of those caps with a can holder on each side
: and tubing.  You know the ones you see idiots^H^H^H^H^H^H suave guys at
: ball games wearing.  Rig up one of these to your helmet and make the daemon
: proud.
: --
: 
: *******************************************************************************
: * Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
: *******************************************************************************


Arnie, you getting this?
Whaddya say? The next DOD orderable:

1 Snell-approved 3/4 helmet with 2 cupholders and a 2-into-1 silly straw 
(or is that redundant?)!

Geeky on the back, perhaps with a straw in his mouth.
We can call it the DoD Lid Sipper!

Actually the cupholders will have to be watertight containers so that
when "draggin' a peg"(tm) no precious fluids would be lost!

Then, the ultimate test of your RidingAbility(tm) would be the
scrape marks on the containers.

As in, "Man, did you see that, I almost lost my Moxie on that last hairpin!?"

--
Jack Tavares    KotHO DoD# 0570 BMWMOA# 58278 AMA# 651191 BMWRA# 16087
83 R80ST	79 KZ LTD 400H (for sale) 
Sorry, but at DoD minimum speed it is impossible to speak. There is just 
too much wind noise.  At that speed I am spending all my concentration 
allowance on riding, and cannot afford anymore thought for words.
However, when I finish a ride and the bike is in the garage cooling down, 
the single word that comes to mind is:

    BEER.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,athena.forsale,ne.forsale,misc.forsale
From: kdrolt@athena.mit.edu (Kenneth D Rolt)
Subject:   '81 Yamaha Seca 750 for sale
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:44:19 GMT

posted for my brother;  please reply directly to him by phone:
----------
1981 Yamaha Seca motorcycle, shaft drive, very good condition. Dad wants
(his) garage space back => bike must go!  bike is in Foxboro MA.  $600.
Jon (508) 584-5051 evenings.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: barr@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BARR DOUG)
Subject: Re: Glove recommendations
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:54:38 GMT

I own 3 pair of gloves. One very light black leather (one layer). One
pair of gray leather ski gloves insullated with the fake fur and the
ultimo-- a pair of electric gloves. I also own electric vest. I can
ride down to about 20 F comfortably.
I recommend all 3.
From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curtis Howland)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Glove recommendations
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:08:12 GMT
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office

In article <BvKrtB.L3L@world.std.com>, kdg@world.std.com (Keith D Gregory) writes:
|> >In article <1992Sep24.175505.14715@sei.cmu.edu> dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu 
|> (Daniel Bidwa) writes:
|> >I'm looking for recommendations for something in between summer and brrrr.
|> 
|> 45 degrees is brrr for me... 
|> 
|> I use Gore-Tex-lined ski gloves. A bit heavy, but they don't get in the way
|> and are quite warm.

I got along in Massachusetts with a pair of flease-lined
leather mittens. Very warm, and wind was never a problem.

This might be for colder weather than the original poster
was asking about.

Curt  DoD#663
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cgates@mitre.org (Curt Gates)
Subject: Re: Faster 1100
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:29:20 GMT

In article <BvCoAx.6zo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> 
bwilliam@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Brenda Williams) writes:
> If you ever saw a 12,000lb
> >tractor just ignite two huge 6'x3' tractor tires
Yea, and I like the part about the temperature of the exhaust gas. If 
there was ever a machine to fit the motto:  live to flame, flame to 
live.....  I wonder if he had a DOD decal....

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: A couple of questions
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 03:17:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.214724.8369@ncsu.edu> jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS) writes:
>
>Thanks in advance for any help.  I have a couple of questions.  First,
>my mom told me that only wimps put their bikes away for the winter.
>So, I'm thinking of getting a Whitter (sp) thermonuclear vest and
>gloves.  I have a 78 Hawk (400cc) and I don't know much of anything
>about electrical systems.  Can I easily use these items with my bike?
>   [  some stuff deleted  ]
>Jack Waters II
>1919
>

Sheesh!  This guy's from North Carolina and he's worried about winter?

I didn't think they even had a winter in N.C.; his mom was certainly right
that only wimps put their bikes away for 'winter' in N.C.

To the question:  Widder electric vest and gloves worked on my 83 BMW R100,
and all BMW twins have real microscopic alternators - on the order of only
250 watts or so.  On a 78 Hawk, check the output of the alternator, and check
the power draw (watts) of the electric vest.  If that's not marginal, then
also check the draw of the gloves ... I only need my gloves when the temp is
below 35 degrees F or so, and when I'm taking a several hour ride.

Two things to do - one, use the Widder thermostat which will cycle the vest
on and off (cuts current draw over time), and two - install hand protectors
on the bars, like the BMW Paris Dakar GS has - these keep the direct force
of the wind off your hands so they don't get cooled as much.

If you can't run the Widder gloves, visit a bicycle shop and get an insulated
pair that are gortex lined.  A ski shop should have the same thing.


Charlie Smith   csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Paying for Damages on Borrowed Ride (was something else)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 05:17:38 GMT

jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney) writes:

> Speaking of which, I'd like to announce the arrival of the final
>teenie Deeney (DoD 0498.3).  A spec sheet is attached.  He was kind of a
>surprise, but a pleasant one at that.  Remember, be careful in there :-) 

>--------------
>                            1992 Colton James

Congratulations Jeff! And thanks for a good laugh, this was the best new
arrival annoucement I've seen. At least since Chris Perez's last Ducati
shower. :-)

>Date of manufacture............September 25, 1992  7:55am

Just one question, was this the date of manufacture, or just the date of
shipment? And is Colton a '92 model, or are you going to call him '93
model to get a headstart on next year's competition? :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Summary: Maybe you missed it.
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:30:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Sep30.075248.10754@elektro.cmhnet.org>, root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
> In article <Sep.29.02.39.32.1992.26480@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:

] Who said sportbikes?  You can get a *real* good BMW R60/2 for under $2K,
] or most R75/5 R75/6's are in this range.  This will get you a bike that
] will take another 40,000 miles, etc,etc,rave,rave.
]    The devil made me do it.

The joke was a poke at Ravi and his GS500.  I guess you really can't
leave out those smiley faces!



]              {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }

                      That way, you won't get beat by them.


                                                Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: NOJ Quiet Rider
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 05:43:07 GMT

dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:

>Anyone got NOJ's address?

Yes.
From: marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:04:07 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson) writes:

>In rec.motorcycles, coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (COBURN  NICHOLAS SCO) writes:

>> 
>> A friend of mine asked me to reccommend the most motorcycle he could 
>> purchase for around $2000.  I thought this was a pretty interesting
>> question, and so I would like to know what you all think.  He is most
>> interested in an '84 or newer sport bike.  I reccommended an FZ750,
>> Interceptor 550, and a Ninja ZX900.  What would you have said?
>> 
>> Nick 

>  A Hawk 650 GT.  They just turn soooooooooo nice.

Except that the NADA blue books lists the average retail price of an '88
Hawk 650 GT (first model year) at just under $2,700.  A $2,000 example would
probably be pretty sad...
--
H. Marc Lewis                 |  Phone: (509) 927-5480
ISC-Bunker Ramo Corp.         |  e-mail: marcl@hela.ISC-BR.COM
22425 E. Appleway Ave.        |  or:  ...!uunet!isc-br!hela!marcl
Liberty Lake, WA 99019-9534   |  "Nature bats last..."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: DoD weenies
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:59:21 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In rec.motorcycles cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
;Maybe I'll even ride with some Denizens on occasion when I'm a good
;enough rider to be worthy, I just don't need the little Secret Society
;crap.

Lighten up, Curt.  It's a joke.  It's not like your
life depends on it.  Besides, if you call us immature,
we're likely to compare you to Hitler....  So there, 
nyah nyah nyah.

---
chris
From: hruo@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Hiro Ruo)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: passing on the right (was: Stupid BIKE drivers)
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:58:30 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

<BusJ6M.DG0@acsu.buffalo.edu> <1992Sep23.165736.4102@island.COM>
<1992Sep23.192859.9060@eos.arc.nasa.gov> <3913@sapwdf.UUCP>
<BD.92Sep27093731@fluent.UUCP>
Reply-To: hruo@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Hiro Ruo)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC
Keywords: 

Germany's traffic DENSITY is pretty close to california's on some of the major
city's roads.  I've driven on the Mittlerer's Ring in Munich and the stop and
go traffic was NO BETTER than those of the major U.S. cities.  If anything,
the traffic was WORSE only because you had narrowere lanes to drive in. 
However, overall, the driving in Germany was MUCH MUCH more pleasant.  The
basic courtesy rules of driving was followed by EVERYONE.  THERE WAS NO ONE
DRIVING 50mph IN THE LEFT LANE ON A 65MPH LIMIT HIGHWAY AND REFUSING TO MOVE
TO THE RIGHT EVEN THOUGH THERE IS NOT A SINGLE VEHICLE WITHING 1000 YARDS!!! I
see a LOT of that kind of driving in the state in which I now reside.  Which
brings me to another point..... Passing on the right IS somewhat dangerous,
but when there is someone holding up traffic by going 15 MPH slower than
everyone else in the left lane, the SAFEST thing to do is to pass them on the
right if they refuse to move over for everyone else.  There'
only so much you can do to try to stay with the "drive on right, pass on left"
rule of thumb.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 01:35:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.231253.1315@msus1.msus.edu> pooder@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.220135.1301@msus1.msus.edu>, stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>> 
>> 	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?
>> 	All the ones I've seen do.
>> 
>
>On Gretchen, yes.  On Harvey, no.
>
>I have a Shoei RF200 in Gretchen's beautiful deep shade of blue and we look
>mahvelous together.  Harvey's the color of an old pumpkin and I've got an
>old Sometingorother brand black open-face helmet I wear when I ride him.
>It'd look silly wearing anything else on such a nerdy looking motorcycle.

I ask you, does this not define a poser or what!?!?!?  I s'pose you have
matching Blades for the different bikes, too. 

Ride cosmetically correct?

Bill
________________________________________________________________
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If you walk, just walk.
If you sit, just sit.
If you ride, just ride.

Above all, don't wobble.
                             Zen saying (slightly modified)
From: pooder@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cold weather gear for the poor?
Date: 4 Oct 92 12:55:11 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <j403662@pro-haven.cts.com>, shadow@pro-haven.cts.com (Blaine Hufnagle) writes:
> Well, now that cold weather has reared its ugly head, the subject sez it all.
> I'm trying to figure out what I can wear to keep warm, since buying good
> stuff like Aerostitch or leathers is financially out of the question.  What
> is good for those of us who are, for one reason or another, stuck with a
> riding jacket and jeans?  Anyone tried anything like sweats or long-johns
> under the jeans?
> 
> -blaine
> 
> -blaine   a.k.a. The Midnight Shadow    |  1979 Chevy Urban Assault Vehicle
> Texas Aggie Bus Driver and proud of it! |  1982 Thomas Transit Liner bus
> Another Bodybuilder from HELL!!         |  1982 Yamaha Vision   DoD #7192
>         "Mine is not to wonder why, Mine is but to look and cry....."

One word covers it all: Layers.  Back in the olden days (before Aerostich) I
had to make do for cold weather riding.  Here's what I wore (in to out; bottom
to top):

Polypropolene sox (cheap and they wick moisture)
Wool sox
Old ratty gardening boots that were sized to fit over the sox

Wool long johns
Sweat pants
Bib overalls (Osh-Kosh B'gosh)
Rain pants if it got really cold or it was raining 

Tee-shirt
Cotton long-sleeve dres shirt (gotta have some class)
Wool flanel shirt (a Pendleton that didn't fit my dad)
Sweat shirt vest
Polyester insulated jackelly cold or...(I bought the set at KMart for $10)

Scarf (I tucked it up over my mouth and made damn sure it couldn't get loose
       and fall into the chain)
Bell Tourstafull-face) helmet

I rode in below freezing cold in that get-up a few times for long distances
and stayed pretty comfortable.  When I did get to shivering too much, I would
stop and run a few laps around the block, drink some hot cocoa and be on my 
way.

The only time I had a real problem was once when it was about 35 and rain.
I bought some garbage bags to wrap my boots in, but that was after they were
wet and I still got really cold feet and started approaching hypothermia.  
Before I had the sense to stop and warm up I what having really strange 
hallucinations - not good.1SMw#u1b/wxmW7[F#

Oh yea, gloves.  Well, I had thinsulate lined suede leather gloves that weren't
up to the extreme cold, so I got cold fingers a lot.  I still haven't done
anything about that.

Even since Aerostich I still wear a lot of those items - I got the suit sized
bigger to fit the insulated jacket underneath.  I'd like an electric vest, but
the bux aren't there for it yet.

Pooder - Staying warm in Rochester, MN - DoD #591 - LotN

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: johnny@ennex4.eng.utsa.edu (Johnny Roberts)
Subject: Turbine cycle engines... was Re: Faster 1100
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:53:36 GMT

In article <1583@seqp4.sequoia.com> cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul  
Cantrell) writes:
> 
> 	2)	Turboshaft engines like to work at high rpm. When you let
> 		them "spool down" to low RPM, excess horsepower goes away,
> 		and it takes a long time for it to accelerate to full
> 		RPM/power. (Actually, this is true of pure jet engines as
> 		well - it can take several seconds for them to go from  
idle
> 		to full power) Still, even at idle RPM it can probably  
develop
> 		more power than a ZX-11 engine WFO.
> 

	In addition, turbines are most efficient when they are operated at  
continuous r.p.m, and rather innefficient when the r.p.m. speed is  
constantly raised and dropped. Unless there was some way to keep the main  
turbine at a steady speed (clutches, electric power transfer, whatever)  
the gas mileage would dip even further than what you have said above. If  
turbines were not so expensive, I believe they would be ideal in an  
electric car driving the generator since the r.p.m. could be maintained. 

	I would also think that all of the revolving mass associated with  
the turbine (blaades, shafts, etc) would cause some serious torque lean.

	But hey, as soon as I win the lottery, I will build one of these  
turbine engine cycles, as I have a taste for the insanely unusual. It will  
be parked in the garage right next to the Chevy small-block nitrous  
twin-turbo cycle and whatever insane cage I have already built (maybe a  
Cobra kit....  wwhhheeeeeeeee!!!!).

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|*                                     *| It seems the time is not  |          
|*    John Roberts                     *| complete                  |
|*    johnny@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu       *| for me to study, to play, |
|*    U.T.S.A. Mechanical Engineering  *| to sleep.....             |
|*                                     *| I am seeing now that one  |
|*    1982 Yamaha Vision               *| must go,                  |
|*    Zorlac, Peralta, Gullwings       *| which one will            |
|*    Alvarez, Washburn, etc... 8-)    *| I do not know........     |
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