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From: EEC@PORTIA.UMDS.LON.AC.UK (Steve P eec@portia.umds.lon.ac.uk)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: RE: Reference
Date: 15 Sep 1992 08:52:41 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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From: myst@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
> 
> 
>         I'm looking for a reference to an actress of the series who appeared
> topless in some previous movie according to Doctor Who Monthy #158. They have
>
>[deleted]
>
>
>         The magazine of course doesn't mention the artiste involved.
> Does anyone know what film and which actress Kevin O'Shea is referring
> to?
> 
>                                 - Myst@Drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
> 

Yes, I wondered who that referred to, at the time.   As far as I know,
only the following female companions have exposed themselves:

Katy Manning (Jo Grant) in an issue of "Girl Illustated"
Wendy Padbury (Zoe) in an early 70's horror film (Hammer?)
Deborah Watling (Victoria) in "That'll Be The Day" (film)
Jennie Linden (film Barbara) in "Women In Love" (film)

I don't recall any more recent ones.  Anybody any ideas ?

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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The future?
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:49:17 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:

>God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
>Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.

>I, for one, hope never to fall under the catagory of a self-righteous person.

Too late, Dave!
-- 
   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
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From: pcrossma@cs.ulowell.edu (The Gillrocker)
Subject: Re: Deborah Watling
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:21:44 GMT

In article <Bu0z7x.Huu@apollo.hp.com> johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.202243.4249@ulowell.ulowell.edu> pcrossma@cs.ulowell.edu (The Gillrocker) writes:
>>It sure was....WHAT A HOT BABE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Sigh. She's old enough to be your mother. (not that that appears to be saying much).

What makes you think that....?  Do you know how old I am???  I think NOT!

>What is it about ulowell that attracts the immature?  First mark & matt diantonio,
>and now this.

I think you should take your generalities and shove them where the TARDIS 
doesn't shine....in the black hole of your ass....immature indeed....

I don't even know the two people to which you refer to.  I have been on this 
net for 4 years....I have never even seen the likes of you.....so go crawl 
under a rock.



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From: rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (rock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: ALL OUR TOMORROWS: Th
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 11:47:18 EDT
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CP>From: pittman@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Pittman)
CP>In article <torresce.715548951@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> torresce@craft.c
CP>>When:  I have followed previous threads and believe the Doctor either w
CP>>Rassilon or was involved with him alot (or possibly Rassilon set it up 
CP>>person could do the things that the doctor does). This is where the doc
CP>>obtained his 'time protection'.
CP>
CP>Or perhaps all Time Lords are naturally 'time-protected'.
CP>

Hmm, actually they are.  It was discussed in 'The Two Doctors' that time
lords (and I wonder if there is a distinction here from 'Gallifreyans')
have some kind of genetic quirk which protects them from temporal
distortions.  The impression I got from the episode was that only a race so
protected could have survived the initial research into time travel, but
that the Gallifreyans had surmounted it because of their makeup and had
gone on the make time capsules insulated from the rigors of time travel.
(Which explains why the cybermen can't make their own time capsules, even
by reverse engineering, though they would seem to be capable of operating
them...or at least they thought they could.)  At any rate, though, I
eblieve the point here was that is all Gallifreyans are immune to paradox,
then how can the doctor muck about in Gallifrey's history?  If _he_
doesn't get changed, why do the others?

"Sometimes what you say is going to get right in the faces of the powerful
 people who really run this world, but you don't care....  You know it's
 your place to challenge authority...."

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: video list
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:24:27 GMT

In article <39HQBB8@cc.swarthmore.edu> rbrooks1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Rob Brooks) writes:
>
>Does anyone have the complete listing of WHO stories currently available on
>videotape?  Afraid I haven't been keeping up to date with it.  Also, what's
>the deal with "The Pertwee Years" which I've heard of recently.  
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>"I'm not quite breaking the laws of time, but I am bending them somewhat."
>										                                -Pat Troughton/5 Doctors
>
>rbrooks1@cc.swarthmore.edu

here we go again:

Right, coming out next month from CBS/Fox video (about the 9th if memory serves)

The Tomb of the Cybermen (episode form)
the Caves of Androzani (episode form)
Shada (episode form linking narration by Tom Baker, music, sound and special FX
	added for this version)
The Pertwee Years (three seperate Pertwee episodes, Inferno part 7, 
	The Daemons part 5, and Frontier in Space paert 6 (Deamons is b&w),
	hosted by Mr Pertwee himself, alsop contains some little clips of
	oddities hard to find, such as the aborted title sequence footage
	considered for his first season, and the rearranged title music
	aborted for Season Ten)

Currently available:
An Unearthly Child (episode form)
The Seeds of Death
the War Games (double tape, episode form)
Spearhead from Space
day of the Daleks
The Three Doctors (episode form)
The Time Warrior
Death to the Daleks
The Ark in space
revenge of the Cybermen
Teror of the Zygons
pyramids of Mars
The Brain of Morbius (heavily edited)
the Deadly Assassin
The Robots of Death
The Talons of Weng-Chiang
The Five Doctors
The Curse of Fenric (episode form , six minutes new footage added)
the Hartnell Years (hosted by sylvester McCoy, contains pilot episode for
	An Unearthly child (the unaired one), The Crusade part 3, and
	The Celstial Toymaker part 4)
The Troughton years (hosted by Jon Pertwee, contains regeneration scene
	from Tenth Planet, The Abominable Snowmen part 2, The Enemy of
	the world part 3, and The Space Pirates part 2)
From: Ric_Goldman_-C@hqops.3mail.3com.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Trials of a Time Lord
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:09:00 GMT

juonsteve@bvc.edu wrote:
>in fact, it should have been longer.  Perhaps the Time Lords could've 
>questioned the good ol' Doc about who he was, or is?  Or scrutinized why 
>he left Gallefrey? ...

I agree!  They touched on a lot of things that could have been VERY 
interesting, but as Sagacity said, "that is outside the jurisdiction of 
this court".  (darn, Darn, DARN! :-)

Just think - if it was more like a Congressional investigation, it would 
STILL be going on, and we could see new Dr. Who every day on C-SPAN!

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From: Ric_Goldman_-C@hqops.3mail.3com.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: What's the difference (was Re: Vido info...)
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:08:00 GMT

wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilsoeon) wrote:
>ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) wrote:
>>The Five Doctors (90 mins, movie format, minor edits)

>So what's the different between a one-episode episode format and a one-
>episode movie format (minor edits aside)?

In this context, think of 'The Five Doctors' as a 4-episode "story", 
with each episode having been transmitted separately, each with its own 
cliffhanger.   For movie format, the episodes are editted together 
without ending and opening credits for each, thus given the presentation 
of a single story.  Frankly, I prefer the episodic/cliffhanger format.

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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Quiz 7
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 05:28:34 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

we have the results from the first 5 trivia quizzes, scores
out of 60


  Frank Durda IV (uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org)  48.5
  James William Bennetts (james@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au) 41
  Jonathan Drukman (jondr@sco.com) 27
  Ron O'Dell (keeper@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us) 23
  Iain Asplin Roberts (ira2p@Faraday.clas.Virginia.edu)  27
  Ariane (ablanch@physics.su.oz.au) 15
  Kevin Blayton (kgb8752@ultb.isc.rit.edu) 14
  Neal Crossan (neal@riemann.math.mun.ca) 8.5
  Richard K. Fox (fox-r@cis.ohio-state.edu) 5
  Franklin Trumphy (swan@iastate.edu)  3.5




And now, episode 7, about the 4th Doctor with 3 more quizzes on the way :

1)  WHat K-? Robot did the Doctor face in "Robot" ?

2) What was the alternative Earth 1980 that the Doctor showed to Sarah?

3)  Which Pub did we see in "The Android Invasion" ?

4)  In "Hand of Fear" which London borough was the Doctor aiming for?

5)  Name the only person healed from Janus thorn poisoning?

6)  What was the "The Sunmakers" a satire of?

7)  What was the Doctor's target planet in "The Pirate Planet"?

8)  Name to date, according to BBC ratings,  the most watched Doctor Who

   serial?

9)  NAme another Planet from "Shada" where a rival Time lord group set up

    base?

10)  What was needed to make the dodecahedron work as a lethal weapon ?
    Rules:

**  1)  No posting of answers.  That is up to me.    **
    2)  Enter as many times as you like, until you get 10/10.
    3)  Deadline is Saturday, 19 September, 1992 11:59 MDT.
    4) On  a note of thanks to Tom Wilson, rarely done these days, anything
       based on precedence below are legit sources for the quizze:
       a) The shows
       b) The novels
       c) Documentaries concerning the show Doctor Who
       d) The Magazines
       e) The Quizze Books



Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
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From: danaf@vccsouth28.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: More Theories About the Doctor's Age
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:09:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.231401.10546@cs.ucf.edu>, wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
|> Why does everyone search for explanations about the shows inconsistencies
|> rather than accept that the writers don't always keep track of past events
|> or worry about the implications of such bold statements like giving the
|> Doctor's exact age.
|> 
|> What's the saying: "Too many cooks spoil the broth."? So many writers --
|> so many inconsistencies. Don't expect to find explanations.
|> 
|> Q: Can anyone explain why the Doctor is X years old here, and Y years old here?
|> A: No. No one can. Next question please.
|> 
|> Looking forward to watching this discussion again...
|> 
|> Tom

BRAVO!!!


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From: wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Hand of Sutekh (was Re: More Theories...)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 10:49:38 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
(stuff on BBC bloopers deleted)
I've also noticed a blooper in Ressurection of the Daleks. When the 
Doctor steps into Davros' laboratory in order to execute him, keep 
watching to the left of the sliding door. Just above the desk (presumable 
where the door operator was hiding) you can see the shadow of the guy who 
pulls the door back and forth to give it that automatic look.

On the subject of other bloopers, I've never been able to spot the one in 
Warriors of the Deep where apparently a member of the crew can be 
spotted. Can anyone tell me where this occurs?

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The future?
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:59:46 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

>>
>>3) After many deaths, suffering and neglect by self-centered, greedy mankind,
>>   Christ does take over the reigns of power.
>
>Except Usenet, which is granted to his most faithful subject, Dave Yadallee
>>
>>Again to follow up these 3 points, follow up to talk.religion.misc.
>
>What, and allow all us Dr. Who fans miss out on the fun of a Yadallee flame
>session?
>
>Honestly Dave, are you REALLY linked to reality?
>
>Do you by any chance have a license to carry a firearm (or perhaps two
>or three licenses?).  
>
>Nicholas (I've seen one Yadallee post too many this week) Fitzpatrick

Hang about here Nicholas.  Flaming somebody is one thing, but stepping
on the deeply-held beliefs of a lot of people is another thing entirely,
and I think you're walking the tightrope here.   Ease off the bile on
religion.  Just because the right-wingers are the most vocal and least
respectful people in religion today doesn't mean it's all bad.
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: More Theories About the Doctor's Age
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:23:03 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Sep6.063634.20620@lugb.latrobe.edu.au> HISC9016351D@LUST2.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MAMMONE,Robert) writes:
>In <1992Sep6.002829.14893@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU writes:
>
>> 
>> Because there actually haven't been that many unsolveable inconsistencies.
>> The only unsolveable one I can think of is two conflicting versions of
>> the death of Atlantis, but other than that and the renaming of certain
>> Time Lord artefacts in "The Invasion of Time," I don't think there are
>> any continuity errors that simply can't have an explanation.
>> 
>> If anyone has any questions of some apparant continuity knots, please
>> post them and I will certainly try and solve them, and I'm sure there
>> are many others with their own theories who would like to comment too.
>> (At least I hope so, their ideas are probably better than mine :)
>
>Interesting.  Which artefacts in The Invasion of Time were renamed?  I
>thought they simply introduced some  new ones.  (The D-Mat Gun and The 
>Great Key)  If anyone can explain the terrible mess they made with UNIT
>history and the Brigadiers history in Mawdryn Undead, without going back on
>the time setting for the Troughton and Pertwee Unit stories, you're are an
>absolute legend.  Can anyone else think of any other stories, where there
>are continuity errors or unexpalined paradox?

Ah.  Good.   Thanks.  You found the other continuity error I couldn't
remember when I wrote the first post.  I knew there was another unsolveable
out there somewhere but just couldn't think of it at the time.  The UNIT
dates are it.

As for the renaming of artefacts....
The Great Key.  In "The Deadly Assassin" this referred to the long, black
	rod that unlocks the Eye of Harmony underneath the Panopticon.
	In "The Invasion of Time," this same rod is seen again and is
	now suddenly called "The Rod of Rassilon."
	And then we have another Great Key, something that has been
	missing for centuries on end that each President is ceremonially
	supposed to look for.  It's reason for being hidden is that it
	can serve as the power source for a DeMat Gun.

some have asked just what was so special about a DeMat Gun, since all it
looked like was an ordinary ray gun or phaser or such.
In the story itself, it looks like there is nothing special about it,
but if onee were to theorize I would say it probably sends whatever it
hits out into the Time Vortex in the same way the Chronovores could in
"The Time Monster."  The difference here is it's under control (Kronos
only controlled itseld).  What sets this apart from any other ray gun
is that it would send *anything* into the Vortex, from the smallest
Sontaran and his grenade to a heavily shielded spaceship.  With one shot.
Now perhaps one would need to build a bigger gun to channel the power
needed to Demat a star perhaps, but the Great Key would still be the
power source.   
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Subject: Re: The future?
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 15:29:15 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:

> <SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
>  Intelligent questions deserve intelligent answers.
> 
> -
> - Why do I get the feeling that there are far too many people out there who
> - spend their lives thinking judgment is just around the corner and die
> - disappointed?
> 
>   My answer to this one is that these people  are the more self-righteous
> people in society.   These people die disappointed because :
> 
> 1) they don't know how to be loving.
> 
> 2) these people are VERY unfulfilled.
> 
> I, for one, hope never to fall under the catagory of a self-righteous person.
> 
> - Additionally, what is the obsession that Moses has with
> - being in end of the world flicks?  Inquiring minds want to know...
> 
>   Could you rephrase this question?
> 
>   BTW, if this gets to theological, discussion could be moved to
> talk.religion.misc.
> 
> Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
> userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
> God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
> Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.

Flame On.  Geez Dave, why didn't you think of that in the first place, when
you started this "discussion".  Your the one who brought up the end of
the world and cross-posted it all over the place.  (I'm sorry to all of
you that I have to follow-up all over the place, I'm on a lame system
that won't allow me to edit the newsgroups line).  Anyway, this discussion
should probably have been brought up on talk.religion.misc.  I suggest it
move to there!  My personal opinion anyway.  I'm not too conserned,
because I can always just skip the post.  I just thought it funny that
the person who is complaining that it should be moved is the person
that started the $%$%& thread to begin with!
Flame Off.  
We now return you to your regular schedual newsgroups.
I feel much better now.  :)


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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Missing episodes (yet again)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:42:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.222447.9149@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>In article <1992Sep15.054703.2180@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>>Here's the catalog of the missing episodes:
>>from SEASON SEVEN
>Doctor Who and the Silurians eps. 1-7 black and white only, being recolorized
>>The Ambassadors of Death eps.2-7 black and white only, being recolorized
>>from SEASON EIGHT
>>Terror of the Autons eps. 1-4 black and white only, being recolorized
>>The Mind of Evil eps. 1-6 black and white only
>>The Daemons ,  all episodes restored to full color
>
>What about episode 1 of Invasion of the Dinosaurs and episode 3 (?) of
>Planet of the Daleks?  Those only exist in B&W too, I believe....
>--

I must be going balmy!  
yes, they are still missing and are only in B&W.  
Can't believe I forgot to write them in first time....


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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Sixth Doctor
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 16:16:57 GMT

In article <18s11fINNef5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney) writes:
>>How about if we use the word...irritating?  Does that fit her better?  ;)
>
>For many and for me at times it is.
>
>I like Peri however I wish the writers had cut out some of the whining.
>
>I can't recall any specifics, but I thought even Davison had his arrogant
>moments.
>

First, about Peri, I think she's nice generally, but there is one line
I wish we could go through all her stories and edit out, because she
said it in almost every one:  "Can't we just go back to the TARDIS?"
Take all those out, then I have no problems with her.

Second, about Davison arrogance, I would agree sometimes he could get
a little hard, and he was at his best when he was I think, but of
course he can't be that way all the time or else it isn't effective.
There were two writers that latched onto just the right amount of
impatience in him, Christopher H. Bidmead and Robert Holmes.
His manic behavior at the start of "Frontios" is one of Davison's
best performances (as the Doctor), and his renewed sense of humor
in "Caves" made that one all the more interesting.  I especially
liked this: "What do you say Peri, we can go on picnics, have nature
walks, and jolly evenings by the campfire!"


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