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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Napalm
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 19:27:17 GMT

In article <20eeXB3w165w@techsys.mcws.fidonet.org> berk@techsys.mcws.fido
et.org (Berk Walker) writes:
>If my memory serves, the U.S. used a gasoline/styrene mix with 5% 
>benzene.  Benzene is,of course, a carcinogen.
>
>Berk Walker                           berk@techsys.mcws.fidonet.org
>


So is styrene, especially when it burns.

St. Anthony

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From: pbray@envy.reed.edu (<<hurdy gurdy>>)
Subject: Re: The Anarchist Cookbook
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:15:23 GMT

n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu writes:
>It's a stupid book, however, full of phony stuff.

SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>... the book is outdated trash. The only reason one might want a copy is  
>for humor's sake but certainly not for practical reasons. I highly  
>DISrecommend it.

julian@bongo.tele.com writes:
>	This book is a piece of shit. It is completely bogus. It is
>filled with urban legend and speculation. 
>	Save your money. This book is neither funny or tasteless.

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com writes:
>Just shows that a lot of people have thrown them in the trash


So I guess the general consensus is that this book is well worth buying,  
reading and obeying!
:)
Peter
--
At the base of all these aristocratic races the predator is not
to be mistaken, the splendorous blond beast, avidly rampant for
plunder and victory.
-- Senor Nietzsche
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From: moroney@world.std.com (Michael Moroney)
Subject: Re: Mysterious accelerant ???
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:52:13 GMT

slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser") writes:

>ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt) writes:
>>
>>I bet you could do better than LOX/acetylene... LF2/LH2 might be
>>a good candidate.

>How about LF2 and finely-powdered cesium?

Cesium is a rather heavy atom, so it would produce less energy per gram
than lithium, even though cesium releases more energy per atom.

Besides, why powder cesium?  Why not melt it?  (it would melt in your
hand if it didn't catch on fire and *burn* your hand first...)

-Mike
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From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: Re: Chloramine
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:48:50 GMT

In article <C18JrA.J9C@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au>, fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan21.181841.820@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, rduta@nyx.cs.du.edu (Radu) writes:
|> |> Does anyone know much about this.  I've heard abut it in several places, but
|> |> I have not been able to find out much about it.  It is prepared by bubling
|> |> chloring through a solution of AmoniumNitrate (or at least let the gas come
|> |> into contact).  A oily substance forms on the top, and aparently this is
|> |> chloramine.  It is very unstable though, moreso than Nitrogen Tri-Iodide.
|> |> I guess the chemical equation would be something like NH3-Cl3.
|> |> 
|> |> any aditional information would be apreciated.
|> |> 
|> 
|> I think you'll find that what you'll get is nitrogen trichloride NCl3.
|> (also called chloride of azode or nitrochloride) This is an oily 
|> substance formed from chlorine and either ammonium chloride or 
|> ammonium nitrate solutions. It is, as you have indicated, very explosive
|> and unstable. So be careful.
|> 
|> Mark.

I have just checked this properly. NCl3 is formed by the action of Cl2 on
ammonium salt solutions. It is also formed in the electrolysis of a NH4Cl
solution at room temp. It is not chloramine, as you have suggested. It
is an oily liquid which is very explosive and very dangerous.

Mark


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From: wolit@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (Jan Wolitzky)
Subject: Re: Rocket Fuels (solid or liquid)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:41:07 GMT

In article <C16MC7.5rM@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>, dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca (Dale Swanston) writes:
> Along this thread of H2O2, what is considered the best, most accurate  
> reference for rocket fuels?

I don't know about "the best, most accurate reference", but this
one isn't bad:

  Technical Report RD-PR-91-17, December, 1991, 234 pages
  
  Introduction to Rocket Propulsion
  
  J. Michael Lyon, Propulsion Directorate
  Research, Development and Engineering Center
  U.S. Army Missile Command
  Redstone Arsenal, AL 35898-5000
  
  Available from Defense Technical Information Center (DTIC) as AD-A250424


-- 
Jan Wolitzky, AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ; 908 582-2998
          att!library!wolit or jan.wolitzky@att.com
   (Affiliation given for identification purposes only)
           Si fractum non sit, noli id reficere.
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From: gray@feline.uucp (Kelly Gray)
Subject: Re: Mysterious accelerant ???
Organization: Humber College Technology Dept.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:15:09 GMT

In article <1993Jan23.013944.21955@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin) writes:
> In article <1993Jan22.205340.9338@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser") writes:
> 
> >It's the LF2 that's nasty--fluorine reacts with *anything.*  Utterly
> >impossible to store for more than a few minutes.  You'd have to keep it in the
> >form of HF, which is marginally more manageable, then condense and electrolyze
> >right before adding the lithium.  
> 
> Commercial cylinders of fluorine gas can be purchased from AirCo.
> I don't know what the cylinder is made of.

 If I remember my chemistry right, fluorine gas can be stored in copper
containers. The fluorine reacts with the cooper at first, but the
resulting fluoride forms a protective layer that is immune to any
further attack by fluorine. The effect is similar to the oxide layer
that protects aluminium.

-- 

<o_o>    Kelly Gray
         gray@feline.uucp (preferred)
         gray@admin.humberc.on.ca
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From: rduta@nyx.cs.du.edu (Radu)
Subject: Chloramine
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:18:41 GMT

Does anyone know much about this.  I've heard abut it in several places, but
I have not been able to find out much about it.  It is prepared by bubling
chloring through a solution of AmoniumNitrate (or at least let the gas come
into contact).  A oily substance forms on the top, and aparently this is
chloramine.  It is very unstable though, moreso than Nitrogen Tri-Iodide.
I guess the chemical equation would be something like NH3-Cl3.

any aditional information would be apreciated.

Radu
--
********************************************************************************
I only kill to know I'm alive!
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From: dineshm@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Dinesh Bidappa Maneyapanda)
Subject: Re: Dran-o Bombs?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:40:25 GMT

as a matter of fact, i believe it is a federal crime to tamper with
mailboxes.  

in any case, i had another idea, but i believe i accidentally sent it
via email when i was up late last night. (sorry!)
it involves gluing some flint to the metal grating that keeps the box shut,
or even to the lip of the box itself.  when someone pulls the lid open,
welcome spark, which ignites the H2 (drano+aluminum->H2 again)

dinesh
From: boardman@cancer.unm.edu (Bob Boardman)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: PMJB
Date: 22 Jan 1993 20:34:57 GMT
Organization: UNM Cancer Center
Reply-To: boardman@cancer.unm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: cancer.unm.edu

In article <1993Jan21.000851.23274@reed.edu>,
      pbray@sloth.Reed.Edu (<<hurdy gurdy>>) writes:
>
>Here are some addresses:
>Loompanics, P.O. Box 1197 Port Townsend, WA 98368.
>Paladin Press, P.O. Box 1307 Boulder, CO 80306
>Sierra Supply, PO Box 1390 Durrango, CO 81302
                            ^^^^^^^^
>Phoenix Systems, P.O. Box 3339, Evergreen CO 80439
>Delta Press Ltd, P.O. Box 1625 Dept. 893 El Dorado, AR 71731
>U.S. Cavalry, 2855 Centennial Ave.  Radcliff, KY 40160-9000 
>--
	That should be spelled "Durango" - just 1 "r"!  This probably
  can from the FAQ, which has it mis-spelled this way.  I tried to
  send E-mail to "ZOZ" suggesting that this be corrected, but the
  E-mail bounced.  If someone else is the "Keeper of the FAQ" now,
  the error is in section 6b, paragraph 9.

  -Bob

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
|      Bob Boardman, University of New Mexico, Albuquerque, New Mexico        |
|         internet:boardman@cancer.unm.edu    bitnet:BOARDMAN@UNMB            |
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: pierson@empror.enet.dec.com (dave pierson)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Rocket Fuels (solid or liquid)
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:53:19 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <C16MC7.5rM@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>, dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca (Dale
Swanston) writes...

>Along this thread of H2O2, what is considered the best, most accurate  
>reference for rocket fuels?

>What about a history of the subject (from the first liquid fueled to the  
>space shuttle)?
	A personal history is called:

		IGNITION!

	(author's name escapes me...), a USA researcher and developer in
	liquid propellants.

>Dale Swanston
>Dept of Physics
>Queen's University
>Kingston, Ontario 		dale@hecate.phy.queensu.ca
thanks
dave pierson			|the facts, as accurately as i can manage,
Digital Equipment Corporation	|the opinions, my own.
40 Old Bolton Rd		|I am the NRA.
Stow, Mass, USA	
01775				pierson@msd26.enet.dec.com
"He has read everything, and, to his credit, written nothing."  A J Raffles
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From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: Re: Chloramine
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:45:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.211855.10497@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, rduta@nyx.cs.du.edu (Radu) writes:
|> Yea, it is.  I have to corect myself on that one.  It's really Nitrogen
|> trichloride that is produced.  And it is very unstalbe from what people have
|> tald me.  The strange thing is that it's a liquid (oily substance).  If chlorine
|> works, then florine might work as well.  But i'm not sure that it will still
|> be a liquid, or gas, perhaps a very volatile liquid, not sure.

NCl3 is more stable than nitrogen triiodide and correspondingly, nitrogen
triflouride is more stable than NCl3, so much so that it is stable. 
(ie, it is not explosive)

Mark.
From: dbell@cup.portal.com (David J Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Mysterious accelerant ???
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 21:49:10 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <1993Jan16.152826.2131@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
  <C10nD2.IEr@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
  <1993Jan24.150320.6601@en.ecn.purdue.edu>

>A couple of weeks ago, I was at a local welding shop (where my
>refrigerant is made), and the employees cornered a large mouse in
>the office area.  In the past mice/rats have gotten in the walls
>and died, stinking for 2-3 months..  I went to the back room,
>put about 3-4 gal of LN2 in a 5 gal Rubbermaid jug.. and went to
>"fight" with the mouse.  Totally doused a 10' X 10' office floor with
>LN2.. whole room fogged up solid instantly, whole floor was covered
>with boiling LN2.. We busted 2 floor tiles (lots of popping noises),
>but we got the mouse... froze him solid.  But is was fun.
>--ghg


Some guys in the lab I supervise once caught a mouse, and 
terminated the poor little guy by dropping it into a styrofoam
tub of LN2. After chilling down for a half-hour or so, the
corpse was removed and thrown against a wall. The real "fun"
was cleaning up all the little bits, after they thawed!

Dave
dbell@cup.portal.com
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From: wcscses2@superior.carleton.ca (Geoff Hamer)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:16:52 GMT

In <1993Jan25.202222.13981@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>D.Parson@bradford.ac.uk (D PARSON) writes:
>: I KNOW this isn't _strictly_ a question about pyrotechnics, (unless it goes
>: wrong!) but what is the best way to connect a NO2 feed to a car in order
>: to increase acceleration...

>You don't - you use N2O. When it is used, you need to rebuild and retune
>the carburator - it is not just a simple bolt-on conversion.
>Bill

There is many different NOS systems on the market (of varing
complexity) and some of them are 'bolt-on'.

The simplest method involves a plate that is bolted between the
carburetor and the intake manifold. The plate will contain outlets for
NOS and fuel injectors... The extra fuel is VERY important since NOS
artificially increases the oxygen content of the mixture. If you were
to inject just NOS into a high performance engine (or almost any
engine) the resulting lean mixture would burn so hot you would melt a
piston quicker then you can read this sentence.

A post to rec.autos.technical would probably be a better place for
this question though.

              _
          Mr. Geoff

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From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:15:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.170218.20566@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.180017.3081@bradford.ac.uk> D.Parson@bradford.ac.uk
>(D PARSON) writes:
>>I KNOW this isn't _strictly_ a question about pyrotechnics, (unless it g
>es
>>wrong!) but what is the best way to connect a NO2 feed to a car in order
>>to increase acceleration...
>>
>>Of coure, I would NEVER actually think of doing it...  Just curious!
>>
>>Thanxx in advance!
>>
>
>Well I know the above will send myriad chemical nit-pickers off, and I'm
>going off as well... I wouldn't put NO2 through _anything_ I wanted to
>keep... Now _perhaps_ if I wanted to increase engine performance, I
>_might_ use N2O. The distinction is critically important. I hope that no
>dentsist ever confuses the two!  
> As for actually doing this, I have no idea... 
>
>St. Anthony

	Hello again!  Lets see here.  I'm not a Chemist OR a Chemical Engr.,
but I have a few things to add to the NO2 discussion.   
	First off, NO2 is used in Auto Racing (as I am an automotive 
enthusiast).  The NO2 is basically compressed and put into a canister similar
to a propane tank.  Then the NO2 is hooked up via cables and sent thru a 
special connection to your carberator, mixed with air and fuel, which causes
a much better explosion then just fuel/air.  That is how it is used for auto 
racing.  If you want specifics, call some Hot Rod parts depo and ask.  They
have kits you can buy.  
	Ok, now, actually, if I am not mistaken, NO2 is also used by dentists
and used in such things as whipped cream canisters.  When I used to work for
United Dairy farmers, we used a lot of whipped cream, and when the whipped
cream canisters were gone, there would still be some NO2 left.  We could then
inhale this stuff and catch a nice buzz off it.  The label on the canister
specifically said it was "Nitrogen Dioxide (NO2)."  N2O is something 
completely different, and i have no clue what it is used for.
	I wouldn't recommend inhaling the NO2 from auto containers, because
it will cause you to become very sick and cough up blood.  This is because of
the process used to make the NO2 used in automotive use is not very good.  
There are a lot of other chemicals in that container other than NO2.  
	Any Chemists out there, please make comments if I am incorrect in
any way!

Mike Maryo   mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu


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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: H2O2
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 04:48:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.003009.16321@cs.rochester.edu> dietz@cs.rochester.e
u (Paul Dietz) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.205252.14134@rtfm.mlb.fl.us> luckey@rtfm.mlb.fl.us
(Jon Luckey) writes:
>
>> But once you get your 30% H2O2 what good is it for pyrotechnics?
>> I wouldn't think you could use it as rocket fuel just by spraying
>> it on a platinum catalyst.
>
>Hydrogen peroxide boils at 150 C, so you can concentrate it by
>distillation (probably under a partial vacuum).  You can
>catalyze its decomposition with silver, platinum group
>elements, or permangenate (the Germans during WWII mixed
>peroxide and sodium or calcium permangenate solutions in
>the thrust chamber).
>
>You can also use peroxide in hybrid rockets, or bipropellant
>rockets.  Being storable at room temperature, it is easier
>to pressurize than LOX (which makes steel tanks brittle
>and freezes valves).
>
>	Paul



 Speaking of German rockets. The V2's used hydrazine and H2O2...

St. Anthony

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From: ntrimbac@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicholas Trimbac)
Subject: Re: Nitromethane
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:48:47 GMT

I was into model airplanes for a while and in many of the magazines I read you 
could order 100%nitromethane along with regular model airplane fuel so you 
could mix your own fuel.
my 2 cents worth...
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From: kjurena@lonestar.utsa.edu (Keith R. Jurena)
Subject: Re: H2O2
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:54:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.205252.14134@rtfm.mlb.fl.us> luckey@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Jon Luckey) writes:
>bbs.byron@gilligan.tsoft.net (Byron Reynolds) writes:
>
>>I saw 35% H202 today in a health food store.  Don't ask me why, I have
>>no idea.  It was sold in 2L bottles.
>
>They think that drinking a glass of H2) with a few drops of H2O2
>gives the bloodstream an O2 boost. (^^^-O is meant)
What a bunch of psycobabble.  The reason H2O2 bubbles when applied to wounds
and blood is the body has an enzyme to reduce it.  H2O2 is an intermediate
product in cell metabolism.  If it were allowed to collect, the toxic effects
would be lethal.  Drink a glass of 3% and you will puke from the foam created
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From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: Re: Chloramine
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:16:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.181841.820@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, rduta@nyx.cs.du.edu (Radu) writes:
|> Does anyone know much about this.  I've heard abut it in several places, but
|> I have not been able to find out much about it.  It is prepared by bubling
|> chloring through a solution of AmoniumNitrate (or at least let the gas come
|> into contact).  A oily substance forms on the top, and aparently this is
|> chloramine.  It is very unstable though, moreso than Nitrogen Tri-Iodide.
|> I guess the chemical equation would be something like NH3-Cl3.
|> 
|> any aditional information would be apreciated.
|> 

I think you'll find that what you'll get is nitrogen trichloride NCl3.
(also called chloride of azode or nitrochloride) This is an oily 
substance formed from chlorine and either ammonium chloride or 
ammonium nitrate solutions. It is, as you have indicated, very explosive
and unstable. So be careful.

Mark.
From: johns@jaiser.rain.com (john shumway)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: Re : LOX GOX & trouble...
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 21:47:16 PST
Organization: Jerry's Attic, Gaston OR


> Greetings and Salutations:
> 
> From: dannyb@panix.com
> >plastic tubing from the O2 cylider and hold it about 3 inches from the
> >charcoal.  Turn on the O2, and the rest of the charcoal quickly catches.
> >
> >Let me know now how badly I was risking my life....
> 
> I work with the stuff, and I had a conversation with someone the other day th
> basically went along the lines that I would rather be caught in a cloud of
> hydrogen than a cloud of oxygen.  Why you might ask.  Oxygen has a tendency t
> soak into your clothing and linger.  Hydrogen dissipates fairly quickly.
> 
> Since you are exposing yourself to minimal amounts, you probably aren't takin
> too much risk unless, of course, a spark hits the plastic tubing at which tim
> you may be in for a little fun, assuming the best which is that the metal
> cylinder doesn't decide to join in the entertainment.
> 
> There is a story at work about a guy that was working with LOX in the open ai
> He had flame retardent clothing on, of course, and when he went outside to ta
> a smoking break he took off the flame retardent coverals.  He lit the
> cigarette and promptly turned into a fireball.  The GOX had soaked thru his
> coveralls into his shirt and pants.
> 
> LOX & GOX are not real safe to play with unless you take precautions.
> -- 
> -----------------------------------------------
> Ken Hollis  INTERNET: HOLLIS@TITAN.KSC.NASA.GOV
>             SPAN/HEPnet: KSCP00::HOLLIS
> Due to additional budget constraints, the light at the end of the tunnel
> will be turned off until further notice...

I would like to contribute a little experience with this subject. A few 
years ago when i ran a metal injection casting machine, i was using a 
torch kit to remove a part, what i didn't know was that there was a 
pihole leak in the oxygen line. Well i was wearing these heat resistant 
cotton gloves (heat resistant my ass) which soaked up plenty of that 
oxygen. when i approached my metal furnace, both my gloves exploded and 
left me with 2nd and minor 3rd degree burns on my hands, a definite 
bummer.
   Be Careful out there.
John Shumway

--
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From: paladin@west.darkside.com (Paladin)
Newsgroups: rec.pyrotechnics
Subject: Re: H2O2
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:18:17 GMT
Organization: The Dark Side of the Moon +1 408 245 SPAM

dstine@cisco.com (David Stine) writes:

> In article <1993Jan25.134757.20334@ryn.mro4.dec.com> pierson@empror.enet.dec.
> >In article <1993Jan24.044854.13176@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, 
> >
> >> Speaking of German rockets. The V2's used hydrazine and H2O2...
> >
> >	V-2s used LOX and Methanol(?) (called mumblestoff and otherstoff 8)>>)
> >	Hydrogen Peroxide was used in the Walther cycle engines in the some of
> >	the torpedoes and the Me 163 Komet.
> 
> A bit off the topic, but perhaps interesting:
> 
> The Me163 Komet had some unique problems in the early models with leaky tanks
> for the H2O2 and hydrazine; the result being that the pilot essentially
> "dissolved" in mid-flight. Seems to be an icky way to die.
> 
> Even when this was fixed, the Komet was purported to be a near-suicide
> machine; there was no landing gear, since it was cradled on a rolling frame
> which dropped off after take-off and it had one 37mm cannon, which was to be
> used against slower-moving bombers by flying through the formations and
> firing one or two of the 37mm rounds into a B-17 or B-24. Defensive
> armour and weaponry was practically nil.
> 
> But for about 10 to 20 minutes, it was a human-guided airborn 37mm cannon tha
> could move like a bat out of hell.
> 
> dsa
> 
> 

^^^^^ someone obviously was watching "Wings" on The Discovery Channel 
last night.

If only Hitler had pulled his head out and used the Me262 and 163 as 
defensive and not offensive weapons... shudder to think.
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