From: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Subject: Re: EUTHANASIA: Winston
Reply-To: kte@INEL.GOV (Kathryn L Cook)
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Lab
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 14:47:16 GMT

In article <24089@alice.att.com>, rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Victoria Vorlop writes:
|> >> Try a method that works: ``The Koehler Method of Dog Training''
|> >> Howell Books.  Remember it's you that's being trained.
|> 
|> 
|> >It may be she that's being trained, but it is also she that is living with
|> >possible canine time bomb.
|> 
|> All the ill-tempered dogs I know are owned by ``nice'' people.
|> I always root for the dog when I see them together.
I've known ill-tempered dogs who were owned by ill-tempered people.
|> 
|> Biting is a response to incoherent authority;  a dog will with
|> precisely administered bites try to turn the rhetoric, if he can.
|>
Yes, sometimes, but there are other reasons that dogs bite.
 
|> I know I'd bite her.

R,
This seems to be a very insensitive and narrow minded post.  From one
article you *know* you'd bite poor Janet, wow?  I don't recall Janet
mentioning what training method(s) she's used, maybe it's Koehler.  She
seems to be sincerely trying to fix his bad situation (gone to the vet,
gone to a professional trainer, asked r.p.d for help) but she also seems
to be in way over her head.  I think it's quite possible for some dogs
just like some people to just be crazy, sometimes dangerously so.  That
aside, I agree that you have to train the trainer more than the dog, but
what a starting point for what appears to be a beginner this dog seems
to be especially if you expect her to learn it from a book as your post
seems to imply. BTW Koehler's books are in my training library along with
several others.  You seem to be very very experienced in this particular
area. Maybe Janet can send Winston to you, and with the *proper* training
you'll turn him into the kind of dog that you'll feel safe having around
your friends and family for the next 14 years.  Hey, maybe you can turn 
him around and then maybe write a book, hm . . maybe call it,
"Winston: Dossier of a Dangerous Dog.  You could then share your
wisdom with the *ENTIRE* world not just this tiny little forum of r.p.d.
Your writting style is certainly up to the task.  I'm serious about you
taking Winston maybe you could contact Janet and see if she'll turn him
over to you.

-Kayti
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