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From: schalene@sequent.com (Schalene Dagutis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: toughest schedule in '92?
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:23:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan8.212336.16093
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1993Jan8.002552.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> dhart@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>Does anyone know definitavely which team had the toughest schedule in 1992? 
>After reading some recent posts, I suspect it was the Eagles.
>
I don't know how it worked out statistically, but the Super Bowl winners,
Redskins (1991 season) are scheduled to play the toughest schedule the 
next year.  Of course, when you're scheduling, it's difficult to predict
what teams will do in the coming year, so they use the previous year's 
standings.  I think NFL scheduling is why it's so difficult to repeat.
You really have to hand it to the teams that did.  Does anybody know 
how long the current scheduling scheme has been in effect?

schalene
From: perez@seismo.CSS.GOV (Ricardo L. Perez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills, SF vs. Wash.
Keywords: Bills, 49ers, 'skins, Green, Lachey, Mays, Thomas
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:08:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.213357.20937@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, vishal@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Vishal I. Sikka) writes:
> 
> Can a 'skins fan out there tell us all the status of Darrell Green,
> Jim Lachey, Alvoid Mays, and Johnny Thomas for this week's game?.

Darrell Green has a bruised heel, and according to this
morning's Post, Green said that he's still sore but that
Petibon (defensive coordinator) told him that he looks better.
Green said that means he plays on Saturday.  Lachey, Mays and
Thomas have bruised ribs but are expected to play.  Eric
Williams (DL) is expected to be back from IR for the game.

Rick P.
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From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: How Bad Is...?
Keywords: cardinals
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:48:30 GMT

fvaughn@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Frederick Vaughn) writes:
> How bad an owner/executive/all-that is Bill Bidwill? Explain.

     The guy wears a bow tie.  Please, *must* I go on?

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
From: PANU@vm.acs.unt.edu (Panu Sittiwong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Random Dallas THoughts
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:40:39 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas

In article <24685@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM>
cwalker@Pterodactyl.scg.hac.com (Clint Walker) writes:
 
>I was a little disturbed by the conservative style of play after the first
>touchdown drive.  It seemed that the team was playing not to make a costly
>mistake rather than playing aggressive offense.  Near the beginning of the
>second quarter with the score 7-3, Dallas had the ball in their own
>territory in a third and long situation.  Up to this point, the Eagles had
>shown the ability to move the ball, so I was concerned when they called a
>handoff up the middle to E. Smith and then punting the ball.  It appears
>that I was wrong based on the outcome of the game, but I wonder id this
>conservative style of play will work against SF.  I think Dallas will have
>to match SF score for score to win the game and the SF offense is
>certainly more potent than any that the Dallas defense has seen this year.
>
The Cowboys believed that their D will stop the Eagles O on a long drive.
So, JJ does not want the Eagles to get a ball on their side of the field.
Therefore the conservative game plan was used for the offense.  As soon as
they has a cushion, he changed his strategy: a long bomb to Harper from
mid-field which eventually lead to Dallas second touchdown.
 
I agree with you that they will have to change against SF.  I think we
will see a normal Dallas O this week.
 
Panu.
>Clint Walker                           cwalker@hac2arpa.hac.com
>
>
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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan )
Subject: All this America's team nonsense.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:11:41 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

I hear that the Boys are going to be featured on Wheaties for
winning the NFC-East!!!. Give me a break. 

Now this is getting totally ridiculous. I shudder to think of
what monkeying the media will do even if the Boys win their
next game with the Eagles, leave alone winning the Super-Bowl.

All this America's team crap is an insult to fans of other teams.
Being a die-hard Viking fan, I take personal insult and any true
fan of other teams will agree with me.  

To the media-monkeys: Please keep the Boys' drooling to urself
We don't need this nonsense.

S.H
NOTHING BETTER THAN GANG GREEN BEATING THE HELL OUT OF THE
OVERRATED BOYS!!!

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From: thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Thaddeus R. Crews)
Subject: Re: Oilers vs. Bills
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:16:39 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.184743.20282@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>In article <103574@netnews.upenn.edu>, satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes...
>
>>Pity the Oiler fan: at the start of the season, their team was tagged the
>>early favorite to advanced to the Super Bowl.  After a stormy season, they
>>made it in as a wild card losing 2 key games to the foot of Al Del Greco.
>> 
>>Now, in one of their most important games of the season, they pull:
>>	The Biggest CHOKE of the season!!!!
>
>It's my fault.  I'm a jinx.  Proof:
>
>1.)  I've been a Packer fan all my life and they haven't done a thing 
>in 25 years.
>
>2.)  I was a part-time Chiefs fan for the past 4 years.  (I guess once 
>you're jinxed, you're jinxed for good.)
>
>3.)  I became a part-time Oilers fan this year.
>
>4.)  The 4 teams I wanted to win this weekend: Vikings, Saints, 
>Oilers, and Chiefs.
>
>John "Thinking of becomming a 49er fan" Heim

John,

As a Chiefs fan, please let me say this: Next year, root for the Chargers!!!

:-) :-) :-) 

p.s. - O.K. San Diego, your the only team left from the AFC West.  Don't let
	us down.
-- 
-- Thad Crews                             (email thaddeus@vuse.vanderbilt.edu)
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From: Frank Bilotti <frank@wanda.princeton.edu>
Subject: Re: SF Bashing
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A77509495E04700D@rambo.princeton.edu>
Originator: news@nimaster
X-Xxdate: Sat, 9 Jan 93 22:59:21 GMT
Organization: Geology Dept, Princeton Univ
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 03:57:08 GMT

In article <1icm7jINN8nt@spim.mti.sgi.com> Anjaneya Thakar,
anjaneya@m20_anjaneya.mti.sgi.com writes:
>49ers will  remain a strong contender for, at least, another 4-5 years
and
>you guys will have to win here to get to the Super Bowl!!! So instead of
bad-
>mouthing the 49ers go figure how you can beat them and, then, you may
have
>earned the right to gloat.
>
>What a goddamned bunch of cry-babies!!!!!!
>
>-anjaneya

Anjaneya,

	Besides being one of the biggest morons to post here in recent history,
you also must not be able to read.  No one here (except maybe a few rare
exceptions) has ever denied the fact that the 9ers are one of the top two
or three teams in the NFL (probably the best).  You just have to grow up
and look beyond the woofing to find the intelligent commentary and
insight (rare as it is).

	As far as Candlestick park goes, if y'ou like it, you can have it. 
Although something might be done about that tear-away turf that is not
only detrimental to running and cutting, but also unsafe and can lead to
injuries.  I've only been there once and I think the place sucks, but I
don't care, I don't have to go there.  Besides, the Cowboys will have
home field through the playoffs for the next ten years or so (-:      
"You see anjaneya," in voice of kindergaten teacher "that was a woof, it
was meant to be taken in gest."

	By the way, if you don't like it, you can crawl back to that non-playoff
cellar that you crawled out of this year!!  (-:

FRANK
__________________________________________
Go 'Canes & Cowboys
frank@wanda.princeton.edu
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From:  (The Gipper)
Subject: Re: LIST OF FRUSTRATIONS.
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 17:18:29 GMT


> > -------------------------------------------------
> > Categories below are teams who have never even been to a Super Bowl
> > B) HAVE NEVER WON A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > 1) Browns    0-2
> > 2) Oilers    0-1
> > 3) Lions     0-1
> > 4)Additions are welcome
> 

The Oilers are 0-2 in AFC Championship games.  Both losses to the Steelers
during the Bum Phillips/Earl Campbell era.


The Gipper
Univ. of Notre Dame
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From: stailey@bugs.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey)
Subject: Vince Tobin <<NOT>> next Bears Head Coach
Reply-To: stailey@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola LMPS Research, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:33:45 GMT


WGN radio reported this afternoon that Vince Tobin has
taken himself out of the search for the successor to
Mike Ditka. This move seems to pave the way for the two
leading candidates for the job...

	Richie Petitbone... Defensive coord for Washington
	Dave Wannstedt...   Defensive coord for Dallas


--
Michael                      
stailey@comm.mot.com     


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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: God did Young SUCK!
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:48:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.005517.11019@news.acns.nwu.edu> fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West) writes:

>The 49ers have had a recent history of choking (i.e., losing as favorites)
>in the playoffs after quite respectable seasons (losing to Minnesota five
>years ago and to New York two years ago).

I'll agree about Minnesota, but not New York.  The Giants were the better
team that year.  The Niners had absolutely no semblance of a running game.
How they got to 14-2 is beyond me; probably a combination of luck (which
was evened out in their snake-bitten start to '91) and the Joe's magic.

The Niners are now 8-2 in the last six postseasons.  I'd hardly call
that choking.  You need to revise your expectations a bit, Eric --
you're talking about the most successful team in the past 12 years,
who have also won two of the last Big Dances, in a league that prides
itself on trying to establish parity.  Whatever happens against Dallas
next week, the Niners are consistent entertainment and definitely a
team to be proud of.

-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
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From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Subject: Re: REDSKINS
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 17:26:24 GMT


>Again, your mind is made up that Washington does not
>have a great QB. BTW, their QB did win the SB MVP didn't her?

Yes, she was the SB MVP, but ever since we discovered Rypien was
a girl her play has been mediocre at best.

Remember Timmy Smith?  The Redskin running back who had a one game
career in the SB?  Are you going to claim he is the equal of Emmitt
Smith?  Believe me, I wish Rypien was a great QB, but he isn't.
He is merely good...and we should be grateful for that.  We should
be grateful he's not a Salsbury, or a Testaverde, or a Gelbaugh. 
But he's not a Montana either.  He's simply a good QB in an excellent
system that sometimes makes him an MVP.

				me
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From: kirchner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Robert Kirchner)
Subject: What would have happened... (SF-WAS game)
Originator: kirchner@hphalle6f.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:42:59 GMT


What would have happened
...if Mitchell had not fumbled that handoff from Rypien in the 4th qtr. and the
Redskins had scored a TD on that drive. 

It's now a 17-20 ballgame for the 49ers, about 7 minutes remaining. 
Young had 2 TD passes and 4 TOs ealier in the game.
You are headcoach/offensive coordinator for SF. 

   Who gets the call for YOUR next drive - Young or Montana?

 
-- 
Robert
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cortez Kennedy
Date: 11 Jan 93 01:01:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <seale.726362197@bcserv> seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff)) writes:
>
> Cortez Kennedy was named AP Defensive player of the year. The one
>bright spot in the season, hell, we even managed to lose the #1 pick
>in the draft by beating Denver. Oh well, it was worth it. I hate Denver!
>Here's to the Seahawks D. Now if we had a decent QB and could manage to
>keep people healthy maybe we'd at least be respectable.
>Thanks for allowing me to woof the only bright spot on our sorry team.
>Jeff (can't wait 'til next year)


Didn't Flores trade 2 second round draft picks for Keith Millard from 
Minnesota only to cut him 2 weeks later?  Heard this a while ago, wasn't
sure if it was true.

satish nair
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: 49ers/Cowboys at Last!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:02:07 GMT

In article <1isjtfINNieo@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.192308.20102@pbhyg.PacBell.COM> dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok) writes:
[ other points deleted - mostly agreed..:^)  ]

>>My feeling is that this game will be decided either by : turnover/big
>>play by one team, or by the last drive.  The 49ers have a lot of
>>pride and poise - you will not see them give up like some of the
>>other playoff teams this year.  (Wouldn't you like to see the game
>>49ers 24, Cowboys 20, with Aikman and the Cowboys with the ball
>>with 5 minutes left on the clock and the ball on their own 11?)
>>
>>Before you judge the 49ers based on the Redskins game remember
>>two things:  the Cowboys didn't play on that muddy field and
>>the Cowboys didn't beat the Redskins the last time they played.
>
>True but the Cowboys basicly gave the game to them with turnovers,
>in every game this season Dallas has only lost games where they turned
>the ball over 3+ times in the game. As for the skins, we beat them 
>in Dec at RFK three years out of the last four, in the mud, in the 
>cold, >and RFK is a VERY hostile environment if you're a Cowboy. 
>Also Philly >almost beat the 9ers at the Stick, you saw what we did 
>to them.  >They match up pretty well I agree but if I were a 
>SF O-lineman watching >the game yesterday I might be just a more 
>than a little nervous.
>I know, you have a running QB, so was Randall, we face them all 
>the time.
>  
Here is where you seem to miss the facts. The Niners, actually
Young :^), likewise turned over the ball FOUR times against the
RedSkins and won! The Niners were able to defeat Philly and the 
Saints because of Defense and able they were able to score when 
needed.  The facts are: the Niners won!  As you so aptly pointed out,
Aikman and Company were NOT able to win despite their 3+ TOs,
whereas the Niners were able to win despite their 4 TOs.

>Should be a classic !!!
NINERS KICK THE 
>COWBOYS
AND
>KICK
THEIR
>BUTTs
>
AS WELL!!!!!
Thank YOU
>tim
> :-^)

******* John P. Gloria ****** jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com *******

-- 
"A cynic is one who never sees a good quality in a man,
and never fails to see a bad one. He is the human owl,
vigilant in darkness and blind to light, mousing for
vermin, and never seeing noble game."  Henry Ward Beecher
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: LIST OF FRUSTRATIONS.
Date: 6 Jan 1993 22:36:17 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

>D) HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A PLAYOFF GAME
>---------------------------------------------------
>1) Tampa Bay
>2) Sea-Hawks
>
   Most seem alright by me, but these are wrong. Both TB and the Seahawks
   have been to the playoffs. Hell, the Buccs even made it to the NFC
   championship game in the heyday of Huey, Duey and Luey Selmon those
   crazy linebacker brothers. Anyway, how about a new category:

E) HAVE NEVER MADE IT TO THE PLAYOFFS AND HAVE GENERALLY SUCKED EVERY YEAR
   TO ANYONE LESS THAN 27 YEARS OLD *
   (The * excludes strike years)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
1) Green Bay Packers

Let's see anyone match that!

--salty
From: scsd1055@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Saints (Carl Smith has to go!)
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:39:09 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

>From: CCP17BK@AUDUCADM.DUC.AUBURN.EDU (Bill Kelly)
>Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:33:00 GMT
>
>[...]
>
>I don't think you can ignore #4 - total defensive collapse in the 4th
>quarter, especially against the 9ers and Eagles.  Against the Bills I
>know what happened - went to the damned 'prevent' waaaaaaayyyyy too early.
>But especially this past Sunday, I'm at a loss as to what happened to the D.
>

	True, but I think the offense had a lot to do with the defensive
collapse by giving away points (9-one safety & one TD), and field position
to the Eagles (3 ints, & 1 fumble).  And the offense is supposed to help in
situations when it can't score (by making a few first downs, and placing the
ball inside the other teams 30 yard line).
 

>I don't disagree with any of your points about the offensive 'strategy' or
>play calling.  I'm just not sure how decisions are made during a game
>on the Saints staff.  How much influence does Mora have over offensive
>and defensive play calling?  Something's wrong here for sure - on *both*
>sides of the ball.
>

	Bill, I really don't think that Mora has a lot to do with offensive
or defensive play calling during the game.  I've been to numerous Saints games
and noticed the activities of the offensive & defensive coordinators during the
game and it seems to me that they (Smith, and Sidwell) are the decision makers.
Mora may have input for the preparation, and the initial game plan, but once
the game starts Smith and Sidwell are the play callers.

>Bill
>God help me, I'll always be a Saints fan.
>But you're right - I should be thankful I don't pull for the Oilers.

Bill
- Geaux Saints!
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From: pjsmith@iastate.edu (Phil J Smith)
Subject: Re: More predictions
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:33:59 GMT

In <1993Jan11.021315.13521@netcom.com> gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga) writes:


>If Miami wins it sets up a definate rematch SB against Dallas or SF,
>both Miami losses.  Miami would also set the record with 6 SB
>appearances.  This record would be tied if Dallas beats SF, which would
>also give Dallas a 4-1 record against SF in NFC championships.  If SF
>makes it along with Buffalo then SF joins Dallas and Miami with 5
>appearances.  A Dallas-Miami SB matches the two teams with the most SB
>appearances both going for their 3rd win.  (oops! do the Raiders have 5
>SB appearances too?)

I believe the Raiders have been in 4 Super Bowls, losing to Green Bay in
SB II and beating the Vikes, Eagles, and Redskins (can't remember the
exact Super Bowls on those).


Phil Smith

A devoted Steelers fan - "Wait 'till next year!"

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From: asif@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Eagles thrashed! Ha Ha Ha! Go Boyz!
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:47:12 GMT

Eagles wings clipped
====================

Alas! The wings have been clipped. "I am back scrambling" became "I am scared
fumbling". Ha, Ha! 34 - 10, I love it. Eat your word Andre Waters, Emmitt Smith
115 yards, 1 TD! Ha, Ha. 10 total yards in 2nd and 3rd quarter, oh my god! What
happened to the iron mighty defense, Tennel, Gainer, who are these folks
scoring touchdowns!!!!!
I loved every moment of it. Eagle thrashing at my best! I hate the eagles, sit
back and watch the games now , you folks are done for the season. Ha ha ha ha
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Whose fans are most frustrated?
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:20:42 GMT
Organization: .

>I would like to cast my vote for the fans who have suffered the most. I am
>talking about their team having high expectations only to falter in the
>end. I will call this the "Most Frustrated Fans" award.
> 
>The nominees are:
> 
>1): Denver Broncos fans - The Broncos have been to the playoffs countless
>    times and to the Super Bowl 4 times only to not just lose but get blown
>    out.
> 
>2): Minnesota Vkings fans - Same as Denver. At least, they had a chance in
>    a couple of their Super Bowl appearances.

Well, except for the Vikes being here, I was sure this was an AFC list
only......since you failed to mention Da Saints!

--J.J.
(killkarlnow)
 
>3): Cleveland Browns fans - Numerous AFC title game appearances only to have
>    the other team pull out a miracle finish or their running back fumble at
>    the 1-yard-line.
> 
>4): Buffalo Bills fans - Won AFC East every year for last five years and 2
>    Super Bowl appearances only to lose both times. All this after nearly
>    20 years as a doormat.
> 
>5): Houston Oilers fans - Nine playoff appearances since 1978 but only 4
>    home games during that span. Always choking at least 3 games a year
>    during regular season forcing them into wildcard round. Then managing
>    to find a way to lose on the road. Finally topping it off by blowing
>    an NFL-record 32-point lead against a team decimated by injuries. A
>    record that will probably NEVER be broken.
> 
>And the winner is ---- you guessed it, Houston Oilers fans. And yes, you
>guessed it, I am an Oilers fan. What else can you say when your team has
>made the playoffs six years in a row without a least making it to the
>title game at least once. At least the Broncos, Vikings, and Bills have
>made it to the Super Bowl and the Browns have made it to the title game.
> 
>OK, I apologize, After all, I am only venting off some 20 years of play-
>off anger and frustration.


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