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From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Predictions 92/93
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:18:36 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide
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In article <716223012@flounder.cs.duke.edu>, azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:

> In article <1992Sep11.142403.1@economics.adelaide.edu.au> ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au writes:
>>In article <1992Sep10.132024.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, satkinso@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
>>> -  Pakistan will win the WSC 2-1 against Australia.
>>
>>Australia will beat the Windies 2-0 in the WSC finals.
> 
> 	   Australia? Windies? What kinda teams are these.... don't
> recall seeing them in WC finals (played on similar pitches earlier
> this year). :-) I recall Pakistan, NZ, Pakistan, England, South
> Africa, and Pakistan. ;-)

Ha Ha! How about a friendly wager that Pakistan won't win the WSC?

>>> -  Wasim Akram will be named the International Cricketer of the
>>>    year.
>>
>>What, you think he can do an O'Donnell do you?? No way, one of the Windies or
>>Aussie test stars will win the award. Ambrose, Richardson, Boon, Taylor,
>>McDermott all in with a chance.
> 
> 	   I think Taylor is a good man! A very good man! But he is no
> Int'l Cricketer of the year for next season down under. Taylor is
> hardly in form, Boon will be tested by second-best pace attack on
> bounciest wickets, and McDermott is becoming obsolete. If Bishop is
> fit,  then I will pick him, otherwise Ambrose is my pick. Richardson
> maybe, but he has long way to recover, but if Lara stikes form, eh may
> edge out Ambrose.

"Taylor is hardly in form.." WHAT?! Let him at least get back to Australia and
play some matches before you say this! Remember who scored the most runs for
the Aussies in our last series against the Windies....

As for Boon, he has a great record against the Windies, and is not worried by
the bouncy ball at all.

Now......"McDermott is becoming obsolete" DOUBLE WHAT?! Since his "comeback"
two seasons ago, he can now be rated as one of the top 3 bowlers in world
cricket at the moment! In the series versus West Indies, India, and now Sri
Lanka he has been the Aussies leading wicket taker in each!

> dsqa

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From: mtrayer@bnr.ca (Mark Trayer)
Subject: 'Keepers in Englands Tour Party.
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 10:26:25 GMT

In response to Dave Groves' query about the number of wicket keepers
in the England Tour party.  There are two, honest there are :-)  
Alec Stewart is the 'part-timer' as he doesn't actually keep 
wicket for his county (not regularly anyway).  The other is 
non-other than Yorkshire's Richard Blakey, who, if you remember
rightly, kept wicket for England in the 4th ODI.

He is Yorkshire's regular wicket keeper, though as he started life as
a specialist batsmen, most of his wicket keeping is self taught.  He
displaced the long standing David Bairstow from the Yorkshire team
some seasons back (Bairstow had, probably still has, some very
uncomplimentary things to say about Blakey's abilities as a wickie).

Blakey toured with the England 'A' to the West Indies last winter
and has long been considered worthy of full England recognition (well,
in the humble opinion of this lowly tyke he has :-)))).

Hope that alays your fears !!!!

Mark.


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From: satkinso@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Dermott Reeve
Summary: What has happened to..
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:07:06 GMT

Can someone please tell me what has happened to Dermott Reeve.
I know that he has played the last one day internationals for
England vs Pakistan but how has he playing for his county.  The 
last that I heard that he was playing for Warrickshire.  Was he
been injured for the first part of the season?  Is he still Captain?
Details and Stats would be greatly appreciated because I'm interested
after playing with the same club team here in Perth a couple of seasons 
ago.

Jason.

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From: corsair@chopin.udel.edu (CORSAIR the Pirate)
Subject: Re: World's worst fielder
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:49:06 GMT

Someone pointed out earlier that Gavaskar was a good slip fielder. True,
I agree. He was indeed quite consistent in the slips, and a reliable pair of 
hands. In fact, I do recall him taking a fantastic left-handed catch during
the '87 WC. The ball was ankle-high, and Gavaskar comfortably scooped it
up. If my memory serves me correct, he was fielding at mid-on.

Also, I received mail from a Bari-fan. Another truth: Bari was quite an
impressive keeper. Any idea how long his carrer lasted? I don't recall hearing
about him after '86.

Stay cool.
May the Schwartz be with you.
Corsair the Pirate

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From: rxo868@huxley.anu.edu.au (Remo Ostini)
Subject: Re: Border breaks through ......
Originator: rxo868@huxley
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 03:34:53 GMT


Just a further comment on Border's form.  I read in the Canberra Times this
morning that even though this was Border's first test century in four years
he has scored 24 fifties in that time and maintained an average of 45.  That
is an average that a lot of accomplished batsmen would love to be able to
emulate, whether or not they are scoring centuries.

Remo


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From: ramprasa@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramprasad Ramakrishna)
Subject: Re: England Tourists to India, Sri Lanka and Australia.
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:25:07 GMT

                 Graham Gooch
|>               Alec Stewart (Vice Captain)   Surrey
|>               Mike Atherton                 Lancashire
|>               Richard Blakey                Yorkshire
|>               Philip DeFreitas              Lancashire
|>               John Emburey                  Middlesex
|>               Neil Fairbrother              Lancashire
|>               Mike Gatting                  Middlesex
|>               Graeme Hick                   Worcestershire
|>               Paul Jarvis                   Yorkshire
|>               Chirs Lewis                   Nottinghamshire
|>               Devon Malcolm                 Derbyshire
|>               Dermot Reeve                  Warwickshire
HMMMMMMMM
let me get my comments in before the mob hacks this to pieces

I hope the Indians don't give HICK a lot of runs. I would suggest a good 
diet of spinners and turrning pitches to continue the hiccups.

Emburey: I guess this is a Poccock all over again.
well if we don't do a Kotllapse then he is tame.
Tufnell may be the only genuine spinnner in the side.
is Taylor a spinner?
Gatting was obvious I guess! but no Gower. 
a good turning pitch . and this team but for Gatting and maybe Fairbrother 
had it!!!!!!!!














|>               Robin Smith                   Hampshire
|>               Paul Taylor                   Northamptonshire
|>               Philip Tufnell                Middlesex
|> 
|>      Some notable omissions include Ian Botham, David Gower, Allan Lamb,
|> Neil Malender and Tim Munton.  The recall of Mike Gatting and John Emburey
|> was widely expected, but Paul Jarvis should be considered lucky to be
|> called up again.  No one except the selectors seems to know much about Paul
|> Taylor.
|> 
|>      The England 'A' squad to tour Australia is :-
|> 
|>               Moxon   (Captain)             Yorkshire
|>               Russell (Vice Captain)        Gloustershire
|>               Caddick                       Somerset
|>               Capel                         Northamptonshire
|>               Cork                          Derbyshire
|>               Ilott                         Essex
|>               Lathwell                      Somerset
|>               Lloyd                         Lancasshire
|>               Middleton                     Hampshire
|>               Millns                        Leicestershire
|>               Prichard                      Essex
|>               Roseberry                     Middlesex
|>               Salisbury                     Sussex
|>               Such                          Essex
|>               Thorpe                        Surrey
|> 
|>      Dominic Cork and Ian Salisbury were tipped to tour India and Sri Lanka
|> but its semms the selectors want to wait and see before choosing them for
|> future main tours.
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> Kelvin Ho,
|> Loughborough University of Technology,
|> Leicestershire,
|> England.
From: aksimha@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Gerd Von Rundstedt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: This little piggie...
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:59:04 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1992Sep10.131903.1317@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> mrichardson@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>The recent article in The Economist (Aug. 29) which somebody mentioned 
>has the laughable remark that, "the best in cricket are now as fit as 
>the best in most other ball games" which reminds me of an incident 
>some years back.  I can't remember it fully and wonder if someone can 
>help on what might be the ultimate cricket trivia question.  In a Test 
>against England, in Australia, in the 80's, some fan released a pig 
>onto the paddock with a couple of names painted on.  One was Eddie for 
>Eddie Hemmings but I can't rmember the other - was it Botham?  I think 
>the test was at the MCG - certainly the humour is sufficiently 
>sophisticated to bring Melbourne to mind - but, and this is either a 
>savage indictment of the game or of my interest in it, I remember 
>nothing elsae about the Test!  Anybody else remember this?

  
  It was Botham, and say, he was very offended by the "joke". Incidentally,
  pig had the Union Jack painted on it.

   Arunn
From: sagrawal@us.oracle.com (Sanjay Agrawal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Border to the rescue
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:33:04 GMT
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Allan Border helped his side reach 147 for 6 in the second innings at
the end of the penultimate day against Sri Lanka, with a knock of 78.
At one stage Australia were a hopeless 9 for 4 wickets!

Sanjay Agrawal
From: sagrawal@oracle.com (Sanjay Agrawal)
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Subject: News
Date: 11 Sep 92 22:58:29 GMT
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Pakistan will be touring India next year to play test and one-day matches. This will be 
followed by India touring Pakistan. Dates have not yet been finalised.

                     (source: BBC sports round-up)

Sanjay Agrawal
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From: hclase@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Howard Clase)
Subject: CRICKET in TORONTO - On TV?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:50:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.153635.21662@bcrka451.bnr.ca> hassan@bcrka434.bnr.ca (Abu Hassan) writes:
>
>
>		CRICKET IN TORONTO
>		==================
>
>I managed to get some info about the cricket match in Toronto.

	Too far from St John's for me to be able to attend in person.   Will it
be on cable - e.g. TSN?

	Howard Clase
From: andrew@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Andrew Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: England Tourists to India, Sri Lanka and Australia.
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:12:27 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk (David Grove) writes:



>In article 21077, Kelvin Ho writes:

[ selectors bewildering choice deleted]

>Excuse my ignorance, but am I right in believing that Stewart is the only
>WK in the side?

No, Richard Blakey is a wicket keeper. He kept in one (?) of the last ODIs
vs Pakistan and IMO didn't look in the same class as Jack Russell. 

>If so, whilst I have no doubts over his ability as a keeper, I do feel that
>the responsibility of keeping wicket, vice-captaincy and probably 
>occasional opening bat are too much for any man for a complete tour.

Yep, I agree but the selector are all wise and all powerfull :-) I mean
they must have a theory about leaving Gower out because "age is a factor"
(Ted Dexter quote) and bringing in Gatting who is hasn't played for a few
years and is the same age!

The news report I saw was quite cheeky about the selection and ended with
the quote "At least there is on Zimbabwean that can rely on English loyalty"
Referring to the retention of Graeme Hick.

>Please tell me I'm wrong (but be nice about it!! :-))

I hope wasn't too hard!! :-)

>Dave Grove.

Andrew [Gower is being victimsed for disagreeing] Walker

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From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: MCC vote of no confidence - Eng selectors
Reply-To: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:22:22 GMT

vnesiah@usc.edu (Deep Third Man) writes:
>Just heard that the MCC is planning a vote of no-confidence against the
>England selectors for failing to include Gower in the side.
>BBC had planneda TV debate between the pro-Gower camp and a
>pro-selectors camp. It was cancelled at the last minute due to the
>fact that there was nobody available to speak for the selectors.

>Brian Johnston, Tim Rice, Harold Pinter, Gary Linekar (football player)
>and a few other big names are leading the charge against the selection cmte.
>They charge that Gower was left out for personal reasons and that he is
>one of the most gifted and consistent batsmen that England has.

Hooray for them.  The decision to drop Gower was clearly rubbish.
Possibly, Gooch and co. are sure that they can manage minus Gower
versus India (probably true) and are taking this opportunity to dump
him.

The only thing is, if this does succeed and Gower is recalled to the
Test side, who gets dropped?  While, the unfortunate worthy probably
did not deserve to be in the team in the first place, it is hardly
fair to him.  Perhaps (if anything comes of this) Gower will be just
added on...  Even so, Gooch and co. could refuse to relent and refuse
to include him once in India (the captain, VC, and manager) select the
side from the touring party after all, and anything as flimsy as
"fitness" could be used to drop him... 

Methinks, the coming months promise to be stormy...

>Poor Gower, first he is dropped from the Eng side and then he gets married.
>;-)

>Any comments?

I should save this Vassee  and send to your spouse (present or
future:-).

>Vaseeharan
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From: dhanda@skorpio.usask.ca (Sanjay Dhanda)
Subject: Re: World's worst fielder
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:51:21 GMT

In article <BuFEz9.Bq8@news.udel.edu>, corsair@ravel.udel.edu (CORSAIR the Pirate) writes:
|> Some of the worst fielders I have seen are Salil Ankola (Ind),
|> Ravi Ratnayake (SL), Rumesh Ratnayake (SL), Mohinder Amarnath (Ind),
|> Wasim Akram (in the '87 WC), Salim Jaffer (Pak), Dilip Vengsarkar (after
|> '89), Kiran More (Ind) (what a pathetic keeper!), Atul Wassan (Ind),
|> Dilip Doshi (Ind), Chandrashekar (Ind) (although he was affected by polio).
|> 
|> Some of the best fielders I've seen are:
|> 
|> Eknath Solkar (Ind)
|> Azharuddin (Ind)
|> Dean Jones (Aust)
|> Pataudi Jr. (Ind)
|> Harper (WI)
|> Logie (WI)
|> Botham (Eng) ---> slips. 
|> Srikkanth (Ind)
|> Maninder Singh (Ind)


How about Sunil Gavaskar. He has taken some very outstanding catches in the 
slips during his career. In one of the very low scoring one-day matches
against Pakistan when India was dismissed for 125, he took 4 or 5 brilliant
catches to contribute towards Inidia's victory (I think this was one of the 
matches at Sharjah). Even otherwise, Gavaskar has taken catches consistently
and quite a few of them were brilliant. He may not have been as consistent as
Solkar, but he was nevertheless a good fielder in the slips.

|> Boon (Aust)
|> Ejaz Ahmed (Pak)
|> 
|> Along with these, I remember the Kiwis and Zimbabweans coming in for a lot of 
|> praise for their fielding during the '87 WC.
|> 
|> Oh, also, before everyone freaks out, some of the above mentioned fielders
|> were very good in their heydays. Now of course, Sri is not as good.
|> 
|> Some of the best keepers I've ever seen are:
|> 
|> Marsh (Aust)
|> Knott (Eng) ---> saw him only once, and was very impressive
|> S.Vishwanath (Ind)
|> Kirmani (Ind)
|> Salim Yusuf (Pak) --> He's had his moments
|> Dujon (WI)
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> Stay cool.
|> May the Schwartz be with you.
|> Corsair the Pirate
From: moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: More runs than Wickets (Re: World's worst fielder)
Date: 15 Sep 1992 10:43:06 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu (Spaceman Spiff) writes:


>as i have repeatedly posted before, noone comes even close to b. s. chandra
>in the category of worst batsman ever. anyone who manages to "score" 167
>runs in 58 test matches has to be phenomenally bad.

Just one more point that I omitted (very conveniently :-) ) in my previous
posting:

Chandra belongs to that rare group of players who have more wickets than
runs in their test careers. His comparison is 166 (or, is it 167) & 242.

Another name is that of Terry Alderman whose name has apparently eluded
everyone. If ever there was a player who COULD NOT bat, 'twas Terry! His
record at one time read 69 runs and 105 wickets (or the whereabouts!). 
That was around '87.

There has to be a criterion of a minimum number of test matches for a 
player to have played before he could "qualify" for this list. Otherwise
Pakistan can have a "proud entrant," by the name of Miran Bux. He played
a couple of tests against India, in 1954-55, scored a single and perhaps
a duck, and returned with two wickets.

Any more names?


>Stay cool,
>The Thinker

Nadeem Moghal


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From: karnik@unity.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: World's worst batsman
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:28:34 GMT

In <1992Sep14.155805.1332@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> mrichardson@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:

>Whole new can of worms here (or in the word's of an immortal Globe and 
>Mail journalist, this "opens up a whole Pandora's kettle of worms") - 
>as far as worst BATSMAN to (dis)grace an international crease with any 
>regularity is concerned, someone's earlier suggestion for worst 
>fielder - Ewen Chatfield - has got to be a top contender.

	Is it a coincidence that the world's worst batsmen are also, to a large
extent the world's worst fielders ? Chatfield, Chandrashekhar, Dilip Doshi,
Malcolm, etc are a few examples....
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From: s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Smith)
Subject: Aus V SL lunch Day 4
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 08:56:55 GMT

At lunch on day 4 SL have declared at 9/~295 after Mcdermott(who said he was
becoming obselete?) and Dodemaide both took 4 wickets in the innings.  SL
today lost 5/~80.  Aus were 0/6 in their second innings after having scored
337 in their first.

+------------------------------------+
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|  <s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au> |
|  Morwell, Victoria, Australia.     |
|  Monash Uni Gippsland Computing    |
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From: raj@psych.colorado.edu (Rajan Mahadevan)
Subject: Javed Miandad at the oval test
Summary: Scored 59 in the firstinnintgs. 364 in the series
Keywords: Scores
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:57:36 GMT

IN response to a query earlier this month, Javed Miandad scored 59 at
the oval test match. I think his batting average intest cricket is
55.02 by my calculations. Rajan
From: mdpysca@fs1.cg.man.ac.uk (Colin Ashcroft)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: England Tourists to India, Sri Lanka and Australia.
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:47:06 GMT
Organization: Computational Group, Faculty of Medicine

In article <1992Sep8.090930@axion.bt.co.uk> dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk (David Grove) writes:


>In article 21077, Kelvin Ho writes:


>>     The England squad to tour India and Sri Lanka is :-
>>
>>              Graham Gooch (Captain)        Essex
>>              Alec Stewart (Vice Captain)   Surrey
>>              Mike Atherton                 Lancashire
>>              Richard Blakey                Yorkshire
>>              Philip DeFreitas              Lancashire
>>              John Emburey                  Middlesex
>>              Neil Fairbrother              Lancashire
>>              Mike Gatting                  Middlesex
>>              Graeme Hick                   Worcestershire
>>              Paul Jarvis                   Yorkshire
>>              Chirs Lewis                   Nottinghamshire
>>              Devon Malcolm                 Derbyshire
>>              Dermot Reeve                  Warwickshire
>>              Robin Smith                   Hampshire
>>              Paul Taylor                   Northamptonshire
>>              Philip Tufnell                Middlesex

>Excuse my ignorance, but am I right in believing that Stewart is the only
>WK in the side?

   Richard Blakey is the other Keeper

Colin Ashcroft
From: hassan@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Eagle Squad)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Any info on the Day/Night match in DUBAI ???.
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:06:14 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hi,

	Does anyone have the info on what happened in the Pakistan
	India day/night match in Dubai ?.  Pakistan won the match
	in Muscat about a week or two ago.

	Thanx

E.S.
hassan@andromeda.rutgers.edu