From: dfpedro@uswnvg.com
Newsgroups: seattle.general
Subject: that's enough.
Summary: It's no contest, you are invited to the last word.
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:03:11 GMT
Distribution: seattle
Organization: I don't speak for them anyway.
Originator: dfpedro@nv2.uswnvg.com


In article <1839@rwing.UUCP> pat@rwing.UUCP (Pat Myrto) writes:

>You can interpret it any way you want (a freedom I am sure you would
>deny others, if you could figure out a way)

A most ridiculous statement, Pat.  I guess you really don't like
me very much.  I mean, we had a difference in opinion, and I did
voice very strongly my opposition to some of your statements,
but you really went off the deep end on this one.

>Not in your lifetime.  I really have better things to do.

Like have the last word?  Well, I'll tell you what, Pat.
You are invited to have the last word.  It isn't that important
to me. 

>Believe it or not (I really don't care) you did EXACTLY what I expected
>you to do.  It just verifies my total and absolute lack of respect for
>you and anything you support was more than justified as you have shown
>yourself to be totally devoid of any kind of ethics.

Boy, this little flame war really got to you, didn't it.  I don't 
think you'll ever recover, and that is too bad because I'm really 
not a mean person.  I really don't dislike you, Pat.

>Pretty much pegs
>you as the sort of person who would maliciously break in or plant damaging
>software to 'prove' your 'correctness' (if you had the brains and
>opportunity).

Break in?  To what?  I *own* brat.  It is my machine.

Damaging software?  What ws damaged? Your ego?  Come on, Pat, get over it.
You threw down a glove and I had a little fun with you.  Did you
seriously expect a killfine to protect your sensabilities?  

>It also shows your claims of not wishing to force things (whether it be
>by law or other means) on others to be pure baloney,

Oh, you are just mad because I won't play by your rules.  It's not 
that big of a thing, Pat.  It's just conversation.  Some of it isn't
polite or nice, but it's all part of it.  If you disliked me so much
that you must put so much energy into the responses, and such prejorative,
then don't respond.  It's not that hard.

Act, don't react.

I forced you to do nothing.  Think about it.  As a matter of fact you
helped me prove my point.  Thank you.

>Sorta like the sleazeball that
>insists on entering someone else's property when they have been told
>they want nothing to do with the person (which deliberately bypassing
>a mechanism designed to exclude obnoxious folks amounts to in principle).

USENET is not your house, Pat.  You have no basis for claiming I 
'violated' your own space.  I didn't want to see your posted response
to my story.  I found it callous, uncaring, inhumane, and malicious.
But that doesn't mean I will cry I was violated when you post such 
things again.

>You fit the PC stereotype PERFECTLY.

Too bad you believe in such things with such conviction.

>And offer a good illustration of
>why I hold it in such extreme contempt.

Actually you are offering a good illustration of your
extreme contempt for me.  This had turned personal for 
you, hasn't it?

Why?

>The N key still works.   I just took time to respond to this to get
>across to you (if you are capable of comprehending, a dubious bet at
>best) how much you are 'impressing' some folks.

If the "n" key had worked in any of this, your kill file would
not be necessary.

I'm not here to impress anyone, Pat, I'm here to mess with you.
Yes, it is deliberate, but I feel you are ripe for it.  No, it
aint nice, but my karma will survive.  I make up for this in
other places.

Tell you what.  In meditation today I will chant, 

"I will not torment the emotionally frail."

I probobly shouldn't have said that, but you sure can't let this
go.   I can and will. 

>You and your site
>will still remain in the kill file.

Add this one too for your peace of mind.  

>In all the postings I have seen you
>put up in past months, I have seen nothing that either informs or
>enlightens.

I am not here for you, Pat.  

> I will still not see any more of your drivel unles
>you continue to demonstrate your respect for the rights of others
>like you have done so far.  Your actions speak FAR louder than any
>words you post.

Oh, you are just pissed because I deliberatly picked on you and it
worked.  It wasn't important to win.  I didn't win by getting a
reaction out of you, understand that.   I don't think you understand.

>Go get a life.

I doubt any "life" I could attain, beyond the one I am currently 
enjoying to no end, would satisfy you.  At least not as long as
I don't let you bully me around with insult and cries of my posts
being PC.

>PS - I am really surprised your upstream feed tolerates a link that
>has an admin that forges postings for malicious reasons.

Complain then.  You don't like what I said, and you don't like 
the fact that your kill fine didn't protect you from my horrible 
words, then go ahead and complain to my feed(s).

Look, Pat.  This is way out of hand and I'm not really interested in
playing with you anymore.  I'll listen to what you post, because 
I can seperate opinions from the person.  I may not like your 
opinions on some subjects but that does not move me to react by
laying repeated insults upon you as you have done with me.

Granted I have made statements about your manners, and your
emotional outbursts, but that is demonstrated by your posts and 
is not a fabrication, by me, to win some higher ground.  It happened.
This posting is not here to 'win' but to talk *to* you in
this public forum, because I want you to know that you cannot
win arguments by accusation, insult, and bullying.

It just aint that important.  Please feel free to have the last
word.  See what you can accomplish with it.

Emulating the three monkeys doesn't shut out the world.

     dfpedro@uswnvg.com

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