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From: centry@athena.mit.edu (Jae H Nam)
Subject: Re: bottom
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:50:28 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.143710.26695@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>
jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>
>                But if the Cowboys were to make it to the NFC Championship
>game against the 49ers this season, I will put my hatred aside and root
>for Dallas for the first time in my life.

In a situation like this, ya gotta do the honorable thing.  Root for both
of them - to do terrible and look stupid like throwing 10 interceptions
a piece, dropping punts, kicking punts backwards, whiffing on field goals,
running the wrong way, racking up 300+ yds.(on penalties), having refs knock
down passes, naked fans running out on the field, naked players running into
the stands, rain, sleet, snow, and oh yes, a thick, impenetrable fog would
be cool too.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 21 Nov 1992 13:54:04 EST
From: ABHAY <IO10928@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: THE BET II
 <Af3FxxC00iUxA31PI=@andrew.cmu.edu> <By1D2s.9y2@acsu.buffalo.edu>
 <1992Nov20.234134.19833@ncsu.edu>


In article <1992Nov20.234134.19833@ncsu.edu>, Perry@mte.ncsu.edu (Bill Perry)
says:

>>>>   Ok, to show that Bills fans do have some sympathy, I will offer a vote
>to
>>>>  all Bills fans participants of the BET II. email your vote.
>>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


      I can see that that we the winners are split on this issue. It may
      indicate how much intense the person was @ the bet...
  a lot, who were risking a lot ( in their opinion) on Bills behalf, letting
 Finfans come back is unacceptable.

    I say if those Finfans publicaly say " Bills are better than Fins-period-"
  ,even hardliners among us (winners) wouldn't mind them coming back.

       Just imagine everytime we reply Doug the Dolfan, we can start the letter
 with " Hi Mr. Losser" and sign at the end as " * * (the winner) "

Oh I love the idea.

 Abhay (The winner)
 IO10928@maine.maine.edu


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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Troy Aikman
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:55:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.170107.15959@bnr.ca> reams@bnr.ca writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.041119.12857@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria) writes:
>|> Food for thought. Compare Steve Young's performance when he was down
>|> 20-3 and how me came through. Big difference. The comparsion is 
>|> startling. Two QBs under pressure and how one choked and how one
>|> came through big time. I don't believe Aikman, has what it takes
>|> THIS year to come through in big games. Young has already proven
>Only had two opportunities. 
>
WRONG! THREE!
>
-- 
        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
 		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: pye@enel.ucalgary.ca (Steven Pye)
Subject: Team Names in Latin
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:56:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada


I found these in a book by Henry Beard, but since I don't think
you can copyright individual language translations, I figured I
could type them in.  These can be used when cheering for a team,
but hoping to not be seen as doing such (and hoping that the thug
next to you is not fluent in Latin).

Atlanta Falcons               Falcones Altantae
Buffalo Bills                 Gulielmi Bovarii
Chicago Bears                 Ursi Chicagonenses
Cincinnati Bengals            Tigres Indice Cincinnati
Cleveland Browns              Fusci Clevelandenses
Dallas Cowboys                Vaccatores Dallati
Denver Broncos                Equi Feri Denverae
Detroit Lions                 Leones Fretenses
Green Bay Packers             Baiuli Sinus Viridis
Houston Oilers                Oleari Houstoni
Indianapolis Colts            Eculei Indianapolitani
Kansas City Chiefs            Principes Urbis Kansatis
Los Angeles Raiders           Latrones Municipii Angelorum
Los Angeles Rams              Arietes Municipii Angelorum
Miami Dolphins                Delphines Miamiae
Minnesota Vikings             Viri Normani Minnesotae
New England Patriots          Amantes Patriae Novae Angliae
New Orleans Saints            Sancti Novaurelianenses
New York Giants               Gigantes Noveboracenses
New York Jets                 Effunditores Novi Eboraci
Philadelphia Eagles           Aquilae Philadelphiae
Phoenix Cardinals             Cardinales Phoenices
Pittsburgh Steelers           Chalybes Pittsburgenses
San Diego Chargers            Impetitores Sancti Iacobi
San Francisco 49ers           Undequinquaginti Sancti Francisci
Seattle Seahawks              Haliaeti Seattlenses
Tampa Bay Buccaneers          Praedones Maritimi Tampaenses
Washington Redskins           Rubripelles Washingtonenses
From: tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Harris Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Drug Policy (was Re: Steeler WRs)
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:20:00 GMT
	<1992Nov20.125805.4075@wvnvms.wvnet.edu>
Organization: Univ Rel - Kathleen, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>	This briungs up the NFL's drug policy.  Is it me, or is it SUPER
>lenient?  1st offense, and all you have to do is attend rehab.  Ooooo!
>second offense, and you attend rehab again, and are out for, GASP, 6 whole
>games!!!  Oh no!!!  Players miss more than that due to injury!!!  Then,
a third
>time, a sure sign that you are REALLY hooked, and what happens?  You
get banned
>for life.  Course, you can come back from life after a year.  I think the NFL
>needs to get serious about drugs, and steroids.  I'd say ANYONE found with
>either in the blood stream gets a year supension +rehab.  2nd time, he's out,
>no coming back.
>	-Skins fan who fell over laughing when Dexter Manley was let back in.

As a Pittsburgh Steelers fan, I have a different opinion of the NFL drug
policy.
First, let me point out that over the past two seasons, I believe only
three players have been suspended for substance abuse.  They are Tim
Worley, Terry Long, and Eric Green.  Notice something?  They're all
Steelers.  Ok, fine.  All three are guilty.  I'm not disputing that. 
What I am disputing is the fact the the NFL uses "random" drug testing. 
Who do they test?  When?  Why?  Isn't it quite possible that the NFL
"randomly" test the Steelers more than some other team since the Tim
Worley incident?  Who's to say that some teams ever get tested?  Has
Todd Marinovich ever been tested by the NFL after admitting to drug use
in the off season?  Has Dan Marino ever been tested in his entire career
since he was a known drug user in college?  And when you think about it,
does your employer randomly test you for drugs?  If you perform your job
at the expected level, what right is it of theirs to know if you do
cocaine, smoke pot, or drink beer?  How would you like your boss asking
you to take a drug test and not the rest of your co-workers?  I can
accept the fact that the NFL is going to test players for drugs - even
though I am obviously opposed to it.  The part I can't accept is that it
is "random".  Either test them all, or don't test any of them.

Todd
From: wizkid@yoyodyne.WPI.EDU (Mike Fyrberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
Date: 23 Nov 1992 01:44:08 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: yoyodyne.wpi.edu

	I think the New England Patriots have found a quaterback!! Scott Zolak
had a good game today, beating the NY Jets 24-3.  
	I will be truly amazed if the Pats decide to put Hugh Millen back in 
the starting spot, after this showing by Zolak.  After all, Hugh Millen is 0-7,
while Scott Zolak is 2-0!
	The Pats played well, and did not look like a team that was 1-8 coming
into this game.  They played with spectacular emotion.

-- 
===============================================================================
||         Mike Fyrberg	 	||     "If practice makes perfect, and       ||
||      wizkid@wpi.wpi.edu	||    nobody's perfect, so why practice?"    ||
===============================================================================
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From: jimarcey@eos.ncsu.edu (JOEL IAN MARCEY)
Subject: Re: THE REAL MIDSEASON PRO BOWL SELECTIONS---AFC
Originator: jimarcey@c00065-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jimarcey@eos.ncsu.edu (JOEL IAN MARCEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:53:03 GMT


I made two critical errors in my selections

1. Seau is on the Chargers not on the Browns.....I must have been reading about 
the games in the paper and just mixed up the teams....mind scrambling happens
to everybody...even the best of us


2. ERIK McMillan may not have been a good selection for cornerback......Hasty
may have been the one I was thinking of.....although McMillan had a good game
against the Bengals yesterday.....he may be able to stay there.
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Need computer game recommendations
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:27:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov16.162758.2734
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

From news.u.washington.edu!carson.u.washington.edu!tannerg Mon Nov 16 08:25:21 PST 1992

Well, I just bought an IBM clone to use on my dissertation, so naturally
I need to buy some computer games now.  Any recommendations on football, 
basketball, baseball, or hockey games would be appreciated.  Please reply
via e-mail.

GT
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: NFL_1992 Scoreboard: Predictions for Week 12
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:12:31 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

Here are the computer program's Week 12 predictions:
HIGHLIGHT GAMES: Wash-NO - the crushing blow to the defending champions?
                 Hou-Mia - yet another home defeat for the Fish??
===



        
                     Week #12 Game Predictions


       Green Bay      ___   22          San Francisco  ___   33

     @ Chicago        ___   24        @ L.A. Rams      ___   19



       Cleveland      ___   16          Washington     ___   20

     @ Minnesota      ___   24        @ New Orleans    ___   21



       Philadelphia   ___   23          Dallas         ___   27

     @ N.Y. Giants    ___   19        @ Phoenix        ___   17



       Atlanta        ___   23          Detroit        ___   26

     @ Buffalo        ___   34        @ Cincinnati     ___   23



       Denver         ___   20          Houston        ___   26

     @ L.A. Raiders   ___   18        @ Miami          ___   23



       N.Y. Jets      ___   23          Indianapolis   ___   10

     @ New England    ___   16        @ Pittsburgh     ___   25



       Tampa Bay      ___   17          Kansas City    ___   24

     @ San Diego      ___   26        @ Seattle        ___   10
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
From: RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Turkey day joke? - Houston at Detroit
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:06:17 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Is this some kind of joke?  The line for the game says :
Houston (6-5)  at   Detroit  (3-8)    Houston by 2 1/2.
I know Detroit has been playing well, and they get psyched up for home
Thanksgiving games, but who in the world would bet Detroit + 2 1/2?
I'd want a few more points than that!  Expect this line to go up up and up!
Anyways : GO LIONS!  GO LIONS!  GO LIONS!  Barry for 200!
-Rob
From: dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: GIANTS blow another one.
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:31:29 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:

>satish nair writes: go giants

>to which joe dakes replies: and take the Jets with you.


>Kinda ironic coming from someone whose team is made up of ex-Jets.  So
>whaddya think, Ken O'Brien as the Iggles starter in 1993??


NAAA!  Let him stay right at home in the Horrorlands!  But I hear the
Giants are looking for someone!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: The Rams RAM it up/down (was: Re: Cowboys Meal Menu)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:20:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.211620.17384@nctams1.uucp> 00h@pnet16.cts.com (Rmc{Sw} Brooks) writes:
>Oh contrare my 49er fan friend!
>
>Comparing the cards and 9ers game to the Cowboys and Rams game doesn't
>compute.
>
>The Rams are no Cards, and the 49ers are no Cowboys!
>
>And You sir, are no Jack Kennedy. (G) 
>
>Walt
>

The Rams R A M the ball up the 'Boz's ass and they R A M it down
the 'Boz's throat. YES! Thank you FOOTBALL GODS!  Thank you
Jim Everett! So what was all the bullshit from certain 'Boz
fans that they were going to have lunch, dinner, etc., of
the Lambs. Yeah, right! It seems the Lambs ate the 'Boz
for lunch and then licked their chops. :-) Message to certain
'Boz's fans: Up yours you dumb fucks. The FOOTBALL GODS have
spoken, Re: FINAL SCORES

Rams 27       	Dallas 23
Eagles 24	Packers 27
Houston 17	Vikings 13
Redskins 16	Chiefs 35
Bears 20	Tampa Bay 20
Chargers 14	Browns 13
Jets 17		Bengals 14
Phoenix 17	Falcons 20
Raiders 20	Seahawks 3
NINERS 21	SAINTS 20
Colts 34	Patriots 37 * OT
Steelers 17	Lions 14
Giants 10	Denver 20
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
"I do not think that winning is the most important thing. 
I think winning is the only thing."    - Bill Veeck
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From: sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Eric Sybesma)
Subject: Re: Holy $*@#!&
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:59:14 GMT

In article <Bxs92w.3rK@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
>I don't know who it was but a day or two ago someone posted his picks for
>today's games. Among the picks were Green Bay beating Philly and the Rams
>I have one question now. After today who is the best football team in the NFL?

I say the Cowboys are still the best.  They were threatening to win it on
the last 3 plays of the game, they just didn't get it done.  I know my
Vikings are currently over-rated..and I wouldn't place them in the top
5 (although there is great potential yet this season).  I think the 9ers
showed what they were made of today and Montana can sit back and relax
as Young was the MAN of the day.  My rankings:

1. Cowboys(see what happens next week)
2. Niners
3. Saints(#1 wild-card)
4. Buffalo(tomorrow night is huge)
5. Miami(ditto)
6. Vikings(have blown out teams, but have not beaten anyone decent)
7. Eagles
8. Pittsburgh
9. Kansas City
10. Houston
11. Washington (right now...they'll be back yet)

Any one of these teams can win the Super Bowl this year.. No one else
has a prayer.  

-- 
Eric Sybesma                                    sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Harbaugh back to throw, screen to Anderson, and it's PICKED off by
 Todd Scott at the 30..25..20..10.  TOUCHDOWN VIKINGS!!!"
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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: Eagle fan commits suicide (Re: 'Gang Green')
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:36:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.163658.15268@doug.cae.wisc.edu> chrisc@cae.wisc.edu (Chris Carey) writes:

>Didn't they do it in '63 also?  I though they won three in a row, lost one
>year, and then won three in a row again.

According to the Packer's '92 "Official Media Guide" (p. 188), the
Packers were 2nd in the western conference in '63 with an 11-2-1
record.  They beat the Browns 40-23 in the playoff bowl (more or
less for 3rd place in the league, I think).

-- 
      "C'mon, what's the big hold up?!  Let's go, up there!
		  Bring on the snow!"  -- Calvin

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Kenny, the best backup around
Organization: University of Michigan
	<By6JB6.DBL@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:39:55 GMT

In article <By6JB6.DBL@acsu.buffalo.edu> v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) writes:

   In article <BILLMS.92Nov23101033@gip.eecs.umich.edu>, billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes...
   >>In article <By5zt7.4Du@acsu.buffalo.edu> v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) writes:
   >> 
   >>	   Just a quick mention of the so-called 'mediocrity' of Kenneth Davis.
   >> 
   >>	   Can you say 181 yards rushing?  I knew ya could.
   >> 
   >>	   NOW do you think he could start for just a *few* more teams?  
   >> 
   >No.
   > 
   > 
   >Bill


	   Good argument, Bill.

You didn't ask for an argument, just an opinion.  I guess I put more weight
on his accumulated career than I do on one day's performance against an
undersized defense.  Thats all.

Bill
--
-------------------------------
	Bill Mangione-Smith
	billms@eecs.umich.edu
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From: Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.cis.YALE.EDU (ALN - Go Giants!)
Subject: Re: SUPER BOWL TALK: BILLS AND 49ERS
Organization: Yale University
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:49:08 GMT

In article <Bxx5My.1oM@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
>From: v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
>Subject: Re: SUPER BOWL TALK: BILLS AND 49ERS
>Date: 18 Nov 92 15:57:00 GMT
>In article <92322.192615U58582@uicvm.uic.edu>, U58582@uicvm.uic.edu writes...
>>Even I like Bills, but your logic beats me a bit...
>>SO what if Bills beat 49ers the last time?
>>DOes it mean they will beat 49ers in the SB?
>>(they still might, but that's a different issue)
>>Wonder why the divison teams play with each other then?
>> 
>>This starts an interesting question.
>>Can anyone list the teams which in the SB beat teams they lost to in the
>>regular season, if any?
>
>It seems like every year in the playoffs and the Super Bowl that if Team A
>had lost to team B in the regular season that come playoffs and Super Bowl
>that team A would beat team B.
>
>The following are instances that come to mind:
>
>1991
>
>regular season: San fran beat the Giants
>playoffs      : Giants beat San fran
>
>regular season: Buffalo beat the Giants
>super Bowl    : Giants beat Buffalo
>

Wow, I can hardly believe someone posting something with some proof to the 
point.  Lesson number 1, good teams LEARN from their mistakes :-)  
-Now if we can just get over Coaching Mistakes for Lesson number 2.

>1984
>
>regular season: Miami beat San fran
>Super Bowl    : San fran beat Miami
>
>I know that there exist many more instances, but off the top of my head I can't
>remember any more. Feel free to add on.
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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Top 10 Reasons to Watch GIANTS/Eagles game this weekend
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:08:59 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Subject header says it all. Here goes:

10) Impending excitement over what slogan Eagles fans can come up with 
which matches the catchiness of "Ray must go."

9) All revenues generated by coaches go to "Hair Club for Men".

8) See Hoss run. See Hoss hit. Run Hoss run.

7) Pre game lottery drawing to determine which lucky GIANTS defensive lineman
gets to line up opposite Antoine Davis.

6) Game footage to be used in "America's Funniest People".

5) Squatters rights to who wins on the "BOO-meter".

4) Able to monitor Lloyd's of London's latest line on Rod Hampton's insurance
policy premium.

3) Seahawks organization able to eliminate one of two head coach candidates.

2) Complicated offensive schemes on the order of "He thinks I'm going to run
but he knows that I know that he thinks I'm going to run so I'm going to run."

And the number 1 reason to watch the GIANTS/Eagles matchup on Sunday:

1) Winning coach gets starring role in "The Homer Simpson Story".

satish nair
go giants
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys Meal Menu
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:00:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov14.211620.17384@nctams1.uucp>, 00h@pnet16.cts.com (Rmc{Sw} 
	Brooks) writes...

>Comparing the cards and 9ers game to the Cowboys and Rams game doesn't
>compute.

>The Rams are no Cards, and the 49ers are no Cowboys!

You're right.  I forgot.  The Niners actually *beat* the Rams.

Silly me.

>And you, sir, are no Jack Kennedy. (G)

And the Cowboys, sir, are no longer the top team in the NFC.

>Walt
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