From: king@glacier.Stanford.EDU (Robin King)
Subject: Re: human evolution
Organization: Center for Integrated Systems, Stanford University, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 19:29:10 GMT

tracy@scoraz.resp-sci.arizona.edu (Tracy Scheinkman) writes:
>In an article in rec.equestrian (some snit-picker) writes to Tracy:
>>This and the animal rights vs animal welfare thread suggest that you should
>>be a little more attentive to language.  
>
>	Who are you, buster, to tell me about language!  You just missed an
>entire proposition so back off the snottiness!!!

	I couldn't agree more.

> Anthropologists have
>no idea why or for that matter exactly when proto-humans began eating meat,
>but what they do know is that not all humans eat meat currently nor have all
>groups eaten it in the past.  Therefore morphology is the only definite
>information we have to go on 
    
	Here's a file from rec.food.veg, FYI.  It shows we're much
	closer to the leaf/grass eaters than the meat eaters.      

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>From: hnewstrom@x102c.ess.harris.com (Harvey Newstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.food.veg
Subject: Comparing meat-eaters, veg-eaters, fruit-eaters, and humans
Keywords: vegetarian meat-eater grass-eater leaf-eater fruit-eater comparison physiology
Date: 8 May 90 14:32:41 GMT

For what it is worth, here is a comparison between humans and three classes of
animals:  meat-eaters, leaf/grass-eaters, and fruit eaters.  The theory behind
the comparison is that humans are closer to leaf/grass eaters and fruit eaters
than they are to meat-eaters.  If anyone else has anything to add to this list,
it would be interesting to see.

MEAT-EATER         LEAF/GRASS-EATER    FRUIT-EATER         HUMANS
----------         ----------------    -----------         ------
lion, wolf, dog    elephant, cow,      anthropoid apes     humans
cat, etc.          sheep, llama, etc.

eats flesh, bones  eats leaves, grass, eats fruits, nuts,  different for 
etc.               herbs, plants, etc. etc.                each culture

claws              no claws            no claws            no claws

no pores on skin,  pores on skin,      pores on skin,      pores on skin,
perspires through  does not perspire   does not perspire   does not perspire
tongue             through tongue      through tongue      through tongue      

pointed fangs,     no fangs longer     no fangs longer     no fangs longer 
longer than teeth  than teeth          than teeth          than teeth 

small salivary     well-developed      well-developed      well-developed
glands, not        salivary glands,    salivary glands,    salivary glands,
required for       required for        required for        required for
proper digestion   proper digestion    proper digestion    proper digestion

acid saliva        alkaline saliva     alkaline saliva     alkaline saliva

no enzyme ptyalin  enzyme ptyalin to   enzyme ptyalin to   enzyme ptyalin to
to digest grains   digest grains       digest grains       digest grains

no flat molars     flat molars         flat molars         flat molars

stomach acid 20x   stomach acid 1x     stomach acid 1x     stomach acid 1x
human acidity      human acidity       human acidity       human acidity

intestines 3x      intestines 10x      intestines 12x      intestines 12x
body length        body length         body length         body length

- the source of this information is from the book _What's Wrong With Eating
Meat?_ by Barbara Parham, published by Ananda Marga Publications, 1979.
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Harvey Newstrom   (hnewstrom@x102c.ess.harris.com)   (uunet!x102c!hnewstrom)
       formerly   (hnewstrom@x102a.harris-atd.com)   (uunet!x102a!hnewstrom)


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