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From:         "Out,
              out - you'll not feel the fall-out..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Kick me out after this one... :)

>Date: 08 Jan 1993 10:56:48 -0700 (PDT)
>From: David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
>Subject: RE: One-hit wonders/Rain songs
>
>What we need to find is a one-hit wonder that talks about rain on a classical
>"concept album" which contains a parental advisory warning label and is slated
>for heavy rotation on MTV with Madonna lip-syncing the vocals. And Vinnie has
>to play drums on it. Or not.
>
>David

        Wrong, David: you forgot to add it must be good music to have sex to.
What about apposing a metal rule, since we're at it? ;-)
        Newbies, believe me: this can turn your/our lives into a nightmare.

        Ciao, Marco

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sign off allmusic Sharon Gratto
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From: leesj@sgi.elec.uq.oz.au (Simon Lee)
Subject: Martyn Joseph Album, is there one?
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:50:11 GMT

Hi,

This question probably applies to people in England as the
Artist (Martyn Joseph) hails from there.

I was wondering if Martyn Joseph had released an album at all
and would like to know the name of it if it is available in England
and whether it would be released internationally.

I first heard one of his songs (Waiting, I think it was called) on
the CD sampler included on one of the Q Magazine issues.  I then
purchased a CD single (Dolphins Make Me Cry) which I thought was
excellent.  It included a live version of the song performed
at Warwick University.

Please email me if you have any information as it would be
really appreciated.

Thanks in advance,

Simon.

-- 
leeSJ@s1.elec.uq.oz.au

"Kirk to Enterprise -- beam down yeoman Rand and a six-pack."
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>Dream Theater played Baltimore, MD in Decemeber.  They put on an amazing show
>Does anyone know anything about them or their origins?  Last year they put
>out only their second album, "Images and Words."

Hi Andy -
I only know a bit - my best friend from summer camp ("Sam Pan" in the thank
you's)'s big brother is the percussionist - Michael Portnoy (how's that for
a connection!) I don't know much, except that I think they're all from Long
Beach, Long Island, NY. They're good, and I like them. If there's anthing
specific you want to know, I'll try to find out for you....

Marsha

Marsha J. Ferziger
University of Chicago School of Law
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:59:44 EST
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@wmvm1.cc.wm.edu>
Subject:      Re: Time signatures

Would you believe there's a thirties-vintage country song with some
5/4 in it?  The song is "Fifty Miles of Elbow Room" and is credited
to A.P. and Sara Carter (though only God knows who actually wrote it --
it almost certainly *wasn't* A.P.).  The verses all stay in 4/4, and chorus
goes merrily along in 4/4 also, except for one measure which is in 5/4.
I wish I could find a way to represent this, but VM/CMS is not designed
for expressing musical notation, so you'll just have to take my word for it. :)

-Scott "On the Right Hand, On the Left Hand, Fifty Miles of Elbow Room" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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From:         a memory engraved upon your soul <REWOICC@ERENJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Boiled in Lead

George Keith sez:
>I was wondering if anybody out there had any informat
>ion on the Minneapolis group "Boiled in Lead".  I already own three albums
>(Boiled in lead--Hotheads, ORB, and from the Ladle to the Grave) and I was
>primarily wondering if any more existed.

well, there's _boiled alive '92_, which is a cassette-only live album.
you might also want to check out something called blue buddha, which is
a percussion-only cassette by robun adnan anders chock full of trance
drumming and other neato-keen stuff (carol - you got this yet? might
fulfill your dumbek fantasies...).

>They do a really cool mix of eastern Euro
>pean, British, and American folk music, with a strong alternative twist to it.
                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^

gee, i prefer lemon in my folk, don't you?

woj
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From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Hole in one?

Hey blooz fanz, I just read a review of a new Alligator from an Aussie by
the name of Dave Hole. (Feb. '93 Audio magazine) Anyone heard of him? The
reviewer raved about his burning electric slide guitar playing, saying
"Hole's frenzied electric slide is caught in a time warp somewhere between
the original Allman Brothers and early Rory Gallagher.... Miss this one at
your own risk." It's on Alligator ALCD 4807.

Speaking of burnin' electric slide (acoustic as well, actually), if anyone
gets a chance to see the John Campbell Band live, DON'T MISS THEM! Campbell
plays a smokin' blues guitar, and has a *powerful* wicked voice. He's also
got Robert Cray's former bassist, Richard Cousins, playing in the band. I
saw 'em down in N'orlins last fall and they knocked me out. JC's got that
special presence.

Paul
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From:         "Gary M. Gettier" <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Fave Songwriters
              at Jan 26, 93 03:12:47 pm

> >Who's your favorite songwriters (have we covered this yet, probally so)
>
> Andrew, being the type who likes good girls who go sexy, casts his vote
> for Debbie Gibson. It's amazing what happens to a person once she hits
> drinking age.
>
> ----------
>       If you consider people's everyday lives to be rubbish,
>       then there's something wrong with you!
>                         --Deborah Gibson (_Between the Lines_)


Wow! The Rev. Bob is gonna be doing backflips when he sees this one.
And look Bob! he even called her Deborah! Bob's got a woodie, I know it.

Seeya,
Gary

yeah I know it's a one-liner
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From:         a mirror cracked from side to side <REWOICC@ERENJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: John Zorn
              24 Jan 1993 21:30:05 -0500 from <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>

Buckethead sez:
>I have come to the conclusion that I must check out something by John
>Zorn. Anybody wanna give me a steer in the right direction?

hmmm.if you want to check out some of zorn's more (ahem) straight-ahead
jazz works, try looking for _spillane, etc._ or _spy vs. spy - the music
of ornette coleman_. on the other hand, since you're a metalhed (tm), you
might go for some of the hardcore-jazz melding that he's done as well.
in which case, go directly to _naked city_ or _the torture garden_. the
later is probably a bad one to start with since it's so damn short. he's
done more since then, but i find _naked city_ to be the best of these
efforts.

woj
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From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      quote of the day

   ...Seen in today's San Jose Mercury in the "People In The News"
      section:

       "My question is, how could he have given up a potentially promising
        career as a musician to work for a living?"

                  - Grateful Dead rocker Bob Weir, on President Clinton
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From:         a mirror cracked from side to side <REWOICC@ERENJ.BITNET>
Subject:      the the

cinnamon (and sugar) girl sez:
>OMC:  I heard a song the other day called "Dogs of Lust" by The The. It got my
>musical juices flowing and I'd like to know more about this group.  Anyone?

the the is the creative talents of one matt johnson, british wacko and
popster. the the has have, um, four releases now (i think - might be one
more). the first is relatively hard to come by, but arguably the most
interesting (and i can't recall the title). the next two are good, en-
titled _dusk_ and _soul mining_, the later which contains one of my
favorite pop gems of all time: "uncertain smile." at about this time,
the the started getting some colelge radio airplay and consequently,
the next album, _infected_ was a cmj smash. despite the hype, it's a
fairly good release as well, with the title track being very popular on
the college airwaves around 1988 or so. the next album was called _mind-
bomb_ and also did well in that realm. this was a bit more subdued than
the more dancyish _infected_ and has some great cynical and acidic
moments. johnny marr, freshly divorced of the smiths at the time,
played guitar on this album.

that's about when i stopped listening to the band. i believe they have
a new album coming out soon, though i don't really know for sure.

matt's also got one pre-the the release on 4ad records which is supposed
to be re-issued sometime soon as well (this would be what i refered to
above as the first the the releae - i just remembered that it was solo).

i'd go for _soul mining_ and _mindbomb_ myself, but if you want a more
in-your-face type of album, pick up _infected_. cbs records carries all
these (except the 4ad one) so they should be easy to find. relatively.

woj
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From:         Angela Chavez <247@EF.GC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      lllll

Hmmm
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From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Merle Watson Festival (WARNING: Folk and Bluegrass Content)

On Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:52:33 CST Leonard Watkins said:
>On Wed, 20 Jan 1993 17:07:24 EST Scott Hammer said:
>>This is an absolutely fabulous lineup for those of us who like this kind
>>of music:
> Raffi <==================  fabulous
>
>Is this the same Raffi that does children's songs.......L.W.
>
I assume so.  I don't know why he was included.

-Scott "Puzzled" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Eric sez:

>I'm new here, and I've kind of been thrown into this and am unsure what to
>do, but I'll make a go at it anyway. My name is Eric Wincentsen, I'm 20
>years old, and I like to collect records and tapes-anything from Big Band
>to Industrial. My favorite groups are R.E.M., the Ramones and the
>Residents.

Welcome - I'm pretty new here myself, actually. Stick around...

Ah, the Residents. Truly one of my most memorable experiences was seeing them
on their 13th anniversary tour (with Snakefinger [R.I.P.] on guitar). What a
show! And speaking of Snakefinger, can anybody help me out with a discography?
There's a few things I'd like to get - didn't he do some kind of blues/big band
type of thing at one point? I think I heard something like that once upon a
time.

-John M.
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From:         Brodie H Brockie <brockieb@STUDENT.MSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV Bands
              93 12:40 pm

>
> Brodie sez:
>
> >C'mon, kids, since it is a universal truth that most TV bands are made up of
> >mostly cheese why not disscuss which TV band is the cheesiest. Maybe it's the

> >Bradys (with "It's Time to Change") or Josie and the pussycats. After all we
> >ll really know that the undisputible BEST TV band would have to be that one o
n
> >the Muppet Show, y'know the one Animal played the drums for.
>                                         -Brodie
> I believe you're referring to Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem. One of my
> faves, too - couldn't stand to see them mentioned without their true moniker
> being applied.
>
> -JM
>
Dr. Teeth and the Electric Mayhem! If the little boy Brodie knew that the
twenty year old Brodie had forgotten that name he'd be reeeeally mad at me.
Thanks a lot for reminding me, JM, I practically laughed right out loud in a
computer center full of people!
                               -Brodie
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Subject: More catagorization horror stories
Date: 27 Jan 1993 03:40:15 GMT
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In a previous article, skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Sonia Kovitz) says:

>You know one of the strangest things about _Transmutation_ (don't laugh or
>puke) - you can DANCE to it.  Truly, I could not just SIT and listen to it.  It
>made you get up and DO it.  Now how much jazz can you say that about?
>(I hope I haven't made a horrible Volks Paw)

  If you would hang the label of "jazz" on Praxis, I'm afraid you have.
Using the unambigious, clinical, politically-correct safe-sex definition
of "fusion" as popularized by a Mr. Beer so long ago, you could probably
get away with labelling them as a psychedelic funk-metal fusion, even
though there seems to be a lot of improvising going on. I think it was
decided that improvising does not jazz make, so in the case of Praxis,
we'll call improvisation a moot point. I think there are better ways to
describe Praxis, anyway. It's damn good tuneage though, ain't it Sonia?

  Re: "What is 'alternative'": Heh... one choice is *NO* choice.  ;)
We can turn this catagorization into a safe-sex definition, too (as has
been shown). What I find hilarious are the arguments on the Usenet
newsgroup 'alt.music.progressive' that the Cure, et al, should be
discussed in that newsgroup (which is actually devoted to the 
discussion of bands such as Yes, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, the
whole Canterbury scene, etc. -- in other words, "progressive rock").
Do they have a right to be mad when others laugh at them for trying to
adopt an existing label to describe something completely different?
Don't ask me... I shot the piano player.

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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Subject:      Re: Just had to share this...

Is that Herbie Hancock's tune "Dolphin Dance" you heard in
the Spanish bathing beauty commercial?
MWM
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From:         Buckethead <gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      John Zorn

I have come to the conclusion that I must check out something by John
Zorn. Anybody wanna give me a steer in the right direction?

Another question. A while back, someone (Bloom, I think) mentioned
another recording that Buckethead could be found on. Who was that artist,
and what's the name of that album?

*Achoo*

Seeya,                                                   gmg@access.digex.com
Gary
"Squeeze my macaroni, slop your face with my bologna."
- Mr Bungle
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:31:03 GMT Hendrik Jan Veenstra said:

>O, and another funny example crosses my mind. I've always loved "Golden Brown"
>from the Stranglers -- a plain 3/4 with an occasional 4/4 mixed in, which
>"throws you off your feet" somehow.  I always thought they deserved to have
>a hit with this song, not just because (as opposed to nearly all other 'pop')
>they use a strange (and basically non-commercial) time-division, but also
>because the song is centered around vocals and harpsichord (which isn't too
>commercial either IMO :).

Oh, I dunno, Leonhart & Harnoncourt seem to do ok with it (-:

Actually, it is just this mixing of time that catches me the most about
early music, where nothing is all that regular any more once you get to the
Renaissance; even dance music has usually got a switch from duple to triple
or vice versa somewheres along the way.  You build a lot of energy into the
music when you do this sort of thing. . . .
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:49:35 -0700
From:         Eric Dennis Wincentsen <267@EF.GC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject:      Alternative Tentacles

Entry   : 3285 (63 words)
Author  : 9013118@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Subject : Re: Alternative
Written : 01/26/93.11:49am

Accordiung to me, there is no such thing as "Alternative" music anymore si
nce
"alternative" music is pretty mainstream today.
        I listen to such bands as the Butthole Surfers, Nomeansno, Negativ
land,
Sucking
 Chest Wound, Psychic TV, etc... but I would hesitate calling them
"alternative" because by today's definition, they aren't.

For real alternative music, listen to something from the real "Alternative
"
label, Alternative Tentacles.


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Speaking of Alternative Tentacles, would anyone have any information on
what Jello Biafra's next project will be, or maybe when his next spoken
word album is to be released? I used to receive stuff from them while I
was on the staff of the campus newspaper, but I don't have their
catalogues and such an ymore. The last thing I got was Klaus Fluoride's
last album....
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Subject:      Gamelan scales

Hi all,
        is there anyone out there who could explain how a Gamelan scale is
built? I've found it mentioned it in a book, and I gather the notes are not
the usual semitones ["and here comes Mike Masuda ladies and gentlemen, Mike
Masuda screaming me! me! and bangin on the keyboard and he throws and WHAT
A THROW!"], ahem. But I couldn't work the thing out, and I'm still in the
dark. Anyone...?

        Ciao + thanks in advance,
        Marco
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:14:17 EST
From:         Brodie H Brockie <brockieb@STUDENT.MSU.EDU>
Subject:      TOY DOLLS

Folks-
    There is a great little British band called the Toy Dolls that a friend of
mine introduced me to a few years back. I think these guys are both hilarious
and  really talented musically, but they're immpossible to find anywhere! Can
it be true that I am one of only four Toy Dolls fans on the entire continent of
North America (I hear these guys are big in Japan). Let me know if anybody else
thinks these guys are great too.
                                 thanks
                                 -Brodie
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Subject:      Black Tape For A Blue Girl

The catch of the week for me has been _A Teardrop Left Behind_ by Black
Tape For A Blue Girl.  It's a compilation from four albums: _The Rope_
(1986), _Mesmerized By The Sirens_ (1987), _Ashes In The Brittle Air_
(1989), and _A Chaos Of Desire_ (1991).

As you might guess from the band name and album titles, it would be
easy to dismiss them as pretentious, what with lyrics such as:

    lured by a song they never knew; seduced by the image of a vision
    so beautiful as it deceptively beckons; yet never seeing behind
    the cold, staring eyes.

Yet I think they pull it off.  The music is slow; often without
percussion, just layers and layers of sustained synth pads.  This
is not dance music - except maybe for glaciers.  The vocals, both
male and female, are more tuneful than Nico's, but they have that
same disembodied, haunting nature where the words wash over you
more than you hear them.  (Good thing they include lyrics for all
the songs.)

An obvious comparison is _It'll End In Tears_ by This Mortal Coil,
although This Mortal Coil puts the voices more up-front.  There
is a definate gloom and doom mood.

Interestingly, when the voices drop out, large portions of the
instrumental textures are very much like pre-Phaedra Tangerine
Dream.  And some of the organ work recalls Rick Wright's spacier
explorations with the early Pink Floyd.

A lovely album.  I've been playing it every day since I got it.
Not for everyone, but if you like your graveyards shrouded in
fog, Black Tape For A Blue Girl has prepared the soundtrack.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University