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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:41:15 -0400 
From: "Michael J. Keating" <mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re:Amanda Sefton

>Speaking of nonsequiturs...
>Can anybody explain to me what happened to Amanda Sefton between the time she
>shot herself and appeared on Muir Island for the Shadow King Saga?  Whatever
>happened to her was never really explained.

When did Amanda Sefton ever shoot herself?  If you're referring to
Uncanny X-Men #204, where she and Nightcrawler were arguing and a woman
later appeared in a hospital after being shot, then you are mistaking
that woman for Amanda Sefton.  She was actually Madelyne Pryor, who had
been shot by the Marauders.  This was unclear originally, but was
cleared up in later issues.  Incidentally, where is Amanda now?
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From: sewon@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG)
Subject: Re: Lockjaw Scott and Jean's daughter?
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Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  9 Oct 1992 18:06 EST  

In article <92283.103329EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>, Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>Hey, with all the speculation, why overlook the least obvious choices.
> 
What?  Lockjaw is female?  No way!  Boy, all this time I thought HE was 
male ....

 - Wayne.
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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: The DARKFORCE (was: Fallen Angels)
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:47:59 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <m0mdBtQ-0000rDC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>> From: 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON)
>>  The Vanisher? Who knows, who cares.
>
>Not that anyone cares, but he has been spotted in the most recent issue of New
>Warriors.  Apparently his "darkforce" power is outta control and he wanted to
>seek out Silohette to see if her powers are outta control too.

Wait, wait, wait.  Obscure Trivia Lad is confused.  Since when is
Vanisher's powers Darkforce-related?  Obscure Trivia Lad remembers
Vanisher once being trapped in mid-teleport by Darkforce (he was
hit by Darkstar, Obscure Trivia Lad thinks), but doesn't remember
any reference to Vanisher's powers being Darkforce-based.  But,
then, that could just be Obscure Trivia Lad.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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From: dardiswa@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Wayne A. Dardis 1500099)
Subject: Re: Anyone seen the new X-men action figures?
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:58:12 GMT

In article <schmidt2.719286648@scws2> schmidt2@scws2.harvard.edu (Gary Schmidt) writes:
>
>	Hey X-friends. I've been trying lately to find the new series of X-men
>toys, and I've only been able to find a few (a nearby store had only a couple
>of each). So far I've bought: Mr. Sinister, Forge, and 2 Wolverines (blue/
>yellow costume from around #275, also one with the tiger-striped costume).
>	Does anyone know when the rest of these toys will be sold? Are they 
>being released only a couple at a time to build interest? I'm sure they'll be
>out by Christmas, especially to capitalize on the success of the cartoon, but
>I wonder if they'll be out sooner.
>	For those of you who haven't seen them (and care), these are the 
>characters they'll be making toys of, if I remember correctly: Cable, Warpath,
>Kane, Gideon, Stryfe, Forearm, Shatterstar, Weapon X (Wolverine with tubes 
>sticking out of him), Iceman, Gambit, Banshee, Sabretooth, Magneto, Sauron,
>and Prof. X. These should be interesting, but I wish they hadn't catered so 
>much to the fanboys by making three different Wolverines -- why not make more
>*different* characters, like Bishop or Rogue? Oh well, at least the toys aren't
>polybagged ... (but they do come with cards!) 8^)

You forgot one of the coolest figures: Deadpool :)


-Psycho



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From: vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Maddie Pryor
Keywords: Madelyne Pryor Sinister Yo
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:05:40 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <p7kpn1n@lynx.unm.edu> praveen@carina.unm.edu (parveen j seph.quintero sinaha) writes:
>
>	Hey, like I know I maybe like kicking up a completely resolved/dead issue here, but....
>	Remember around the Inferno, sometime or another, a few people wrote in saying that Madelyne Pryor actually appeared in the Avengers some time before she ever appeared in X-Men, as a baby...  If memory serves me correct, the X-Men might have actually been in that issue.  Does anybody know about this or has an answer?  ?

Hey, how about some 80 column lines? :-)

The issue in question is Avengers Annual #10. It featured Rogue's first
appearance, in which she absorbed Ms. Marvel.  It featured Spider-Woman.
It featured the X-Men and the Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.  It featured
nifty Michael Golden art, i think.

The scene was in a hospital, where a little red headed 9 year old (i think
that's the age-it just seemed to jump into my head) said 'Hi!  I'm Maddie
Pryor.  I was sick, but now i'm better.'  Or something to that extent.

Anyway, i think this was explained (several times :-) by the fact that
Claremont knew a woman named Maddie Pryor (although i think she spelled it
different) and liked the name, so he used it twice, kinda like what happened
with the name 'Jubilee.'

Hope this helps...

JRjr
-- 
'Let's not pretend to justify, Rather amend where treasures lie.  Straight
through the heart peace can be found.  That's where you start, not all 
around...'  Extreme -- Rest In Peace
#####  vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU  ########  Jerry B. Ray, Jr.  ################
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From: dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (DICKENJD)
Subject: FAQ (WAS: Re: Rogue (Re: Lebeau (Gambit))
Summary: FAQ 
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:54:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.004420.4764@njitgw.njit.edu>, bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes...
>Anyone else think that rac.xbooks should get it's own FAQ?  I'm sure
>there's enough questions out there to warrant at least a short FAQ.
> 
	I agree. Given the nature of FAQs (for new posters) and the 
nature of the X-books (more plot twists than a glob of old silly
putty), I'd say that a decent sized FAQ could be compiled. Any
takers?


J. David Dickens . . . dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu 
-----------------------------------------------------
"Ignorance is a dish that is best served with a side
order of fries and a Coke..."
				  ---me
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From: 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON)
Subject: Re: The DARKFORCE
Summary: Some corrections (maybe)
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:56:20 GMT

Netters,
     Okay, I could be mistaken, but didn't Blackout die in The Avengers? (
Something to do with the takeover of Avengers mansion.)

     Also, isn't it Black Mamba of the Serpent Society that uses the 
Darkforce, not the Asp? (The Asp fires bioelectric energy, I believe.)

As for possible others using the Darkforce or its dimension:

Doorman (The Great Lakes Avengers)
 Believe it or not, that's all I can think of. There's really not that many 
of them.

DMK
Acadia University, Nova Scotia, Canada.

P.S. : To all those who get comics from shops : PLEASE be careful about 
SPOILERS. I only collect Alpha Flight, Warriors and Guardians of the Galaxy, 
and I get the last two from a newsstand. Therefore it's very easy to have my 
entertainment on those last two spoiled. Thanks in advance!!!
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From: jwalters@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Dampening Rogue's mutant power
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:00:30 GMT

How about this theory:  Rogue has been incomplete control of her absorbing 
power ever since the Siege Ludicrous - she just hasn't realised it yet.

I forget exactly how it was stated, but wasn't the SP supposed to reward
the good people who pass through and destroy the evil.  I figure that freeing
Rogue from the Ms. Marvel persona was a reward from the SP, and giving her
control of her powers could be another reward.  The thing is, Rogue is so
afraid of her absorbing power she never touches anyone.  She did absorb 
Gateway in her comeback issue, but that was deliberate.  I don't think 
touched anyone since then.
From: rnmg1200@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Walrus and April)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Alex & Lorna, or a very Sinister child....
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:37:14 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <ROBI.92Oct16004507@raven.bacchus.esa.oz.au> robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au writes:
>In article <92288.092347EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>: I thought Corsair could generate bolts of energy, which he channeled through
>: his sword.  Maybe thats another superhero I'm thinking of.  SHOKK is not as
>: learned in the ways of trivia as obscure trivia lad.
>
>You're thinking of El 'Eagule or somesuch, The Eagle translated from
>Spanish. He's a Marvel mutant that chanels bolts of electricity and
>normally uses his sword for this, although it isn't necessary. He
>appeared in an old issue or two if Marvel Team-Up.

That's El Aguila, who appeared in Power Man and Iron Fist for awhile.  He
may also have appeared in Marvel Team-Up, but I think his first appearance
was in PM/IF.  I know that was where he got most of his appearances, anyway.
And he had a one-shot by Lobdell in Marvel Comics Presents, not too long ago.

>	- Robi

The Walrus
From: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Wha happened?
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:21:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <81567@ut-emx.uucp> aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:

>	Uhm, pardon the stupid question  (I mean, we're talkin' Marvel
>here), but what do you suppose happened to that small nuclear arsenal
>Cable was toting around last issue?  He somehow seemed more formidible as a
>one man South American death squad as opposed to "Guy with a gun."

Well, personally, I think he cached it somewhere.  I mean, all that weaponry
(ooh, it jus' gives me chills thinkin' about it!)  would make it a pain in the
butt to covertly infiltrate that place--not to mention being a pain in the butt
to tote around!

>P.S.:  Is it just me, or nothing really happening?  The X-teams have thus
>	far accomplished nothing!

Nothing's--no, that's not true.  Stryfe _does_ have Jean and Scott, the X-Teams
_did_ kick X-Force's combined butts, and Professor X _is_ dying from the 
technovirus.  Business as usual.

>	And, uh, outta curiousity, just what does anyone think Psylocke
>was gonna do to Xavier?  I've got a couple o' theories, but I'm rather
>fuzzy on Betsy's background.  Any ideas?

Way back when in UX 254 (I think) Psylocke, who had gone through the Siege 
Perilous a few issues before, turned up as Lady Mandarin, who was a ninja 
assassin for Matsuo Tsuryaba and the Hand.  Now, they had mystically changed
this British lady into an Oriental in the process.  What I think Psylocke was
going to do to the Prof was, to put it bluntly, kill him.  Euthanize him, that
is.  Her thoughts were referring to the incredible changes _she_ went through,
and she wasn't going to let anything like that happen to Xavier.

Just my $0.02 worth.

__NOVA__
_______________________________________________________________________________

"Why are you mumbling?"
"Because I've grown fangs, and if I open my mouth too wide, you'll see them."
		--SM 2099
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From: lazarus@venture.ksu.ksu.edu (Bart -Laz- Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: The Mutant Review *CANCELLED*
Date: 12 Oct 1992 23:47:00 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
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Keywords: The, End, That's, All, Folks


Well... it hadda happen sooner or later.  My weekly review of the latest
mutant titles is getting scrapped.  Not due to lack of interest (I didn't
give a hang HOW disinterested you were.  ;)  ), or lackafunds, but mostly
'cos I just got bored.  That's all.  I thought "Hmm... time to write my
stuff about the latest Excalibur and UX-Men", then decided against it.

However, I'll still be around the newsgroup, at LEAST until mid-January.`
>;)

--
Bart -Laz- Smith
Kansas State University
'Cats - 7, KU - 31.  "Where's my offensive line, why did they leave me here
	all alone..."
From: phi@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Aeleck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men 2099
Summary: Enough is enough
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:20:39 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh) writes:
>Somebody on rec,comics.misc. posted a brief summary about a con he
>attended a little while ago. One of things he mentioned was the
>possiblity of an X-Men 2099 title coming out sometime next year. No
>other details were given.

>Now, I like the X-men and have colleted them for about ten years, but
>does the thought of this X-title occuring make you want to scream. I
>know I did.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Aeleck :)
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From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Judas/PAD ?'s
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:38:21 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler) writes:

>In article <67779@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>>seedy, run down, and similar to NY of today.  And I wanted to have a 
>>sign stuck on a wall in the background with the words "THE MUTANT TRAITOR--
>>MAY YOU ROT IN HELL" above and below, and a picture in the middle--and the
>>picture is obscured by graffiti.  
             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Sounds good to me.  Do you know who the traitor is, though?  Is there

He doesn't *have* to know who it is, it's *obscured*by*graffiti*!!!!
(Duh!)	I-)

				James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of anyone at all}
From: c60b-3fe@e260-4d.berkeley.edu (Coffee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: New X-Men Cartoons
Date: 8 Oct 1992 17:24:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: e260-4d.berkeley.edu

In article <1aq3kiINNkbg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau) writes:

>I don't know how accurate this might be, but my Tv guide from the
>newspaper had X-Men on Oct. 10th at 11am.

Yeah, strange...
  In the Bay Area (San Francisco bay area to you outsiders :) ) my TV guide
has it coming on this saturday at 10:30a but the commercial says the 24th.
I'm gonna set up my VCR to record it, but I'll probably end up with EEK the
cat or Super Dave or something. *shrug*

Coffee
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:37:38 -0400 
From: Steven Kelly Woyicki <sw3r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: APOCALYPSE'S PAST

Ok, theory:

-In Part 5, Uncanny #whatever, the text says something about
Apocalypse's "all too malleable skin" feeling the whip of his master. 
Therefore:

Apocalypse was probably the first mutant, born around 4000-2000 BC,
possibly in ancient Egypt or thereabouts.  His power was his malleable
skin.  He was a slave during his lifetime.  He became a hardened
personality and escaped at some point.  He then stumbled across a
Celestial device (i.e. Ship).  Inside Ship, he found the tools to make
himself immortal (???!!!) or somehow increase his powers using the suit
he wears.  (I think.  It must be a part of him because he regenerates
with it on.  It also bends with him when his ribs stick out at the
beginning of the issue.)  He has utilized the technology he found in
Ship ever since, setting up bases around the world.  (Possibly the
universe, because he says something about reclaiming his place in the
universal panthelon in the old X-factor book (i.e. the battle on the
moon).  Furthermore, Apocalypse has extended his life by draining life
energy from mutants.  (like Sauron)  He says something about doing this
to Nathan in X-Factor (again, the moon battle)  and to the X-Men in the
most recent Uncanny (part 5).  However, he doesn't drain the X-men
because he says the gain would hardly be worth it.  (Although he may
have been talking about killing them as he was earlier.  I would suggest
checking out those last panels after he defeats the X-Men, however, with
this in mind.)

This would fit with all previous descriptions of Apocalypse.  However, I
would prefer it if they never revealed his origin.  I think it would
take away from his character.  (Although I would like to see Logan's
complete origin as well as more information on Sinister!)

*****By the way, are THE TWELVE related to the Externals?

  And does anybody think that the whole Externals thing is too much like
the movie, Highlander?  (Immortals, highlords, SEVERING BRANCHES?- Krule
said it, coming back to life- Connery's Ramierz to McLeod like Cable to
Sam when McLeod and Sam learn they're immortal, Krule sounds like Krugan
the big goon villian)
    AND, does the Cable-Terminator parallel make you sick too?  GET
ORIGINAL GUYS!  THE CREATIVITY IS GOING KAPUT!

Later Folkage,
Steve

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From: chem8w@jane.uh.edu (Councilman, David A.)
Subject: Re: Rogue pregnant...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:21:00 GMT

In article <21072@plains.NoDak.edu>, dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes...
>In article <1992Oct8.121555.59536@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:

[previous questions deleted]

>I, at least, have written a story where Rogue gets pregnant. For that matter,
>I've written a lot of stuff about Rogue, the X-Men, and anything else that
>catches my attention, usually with my character Darwin thrown in for
>commentary. And, no, they haven't been published. They're my exercise for
>myself to keep me in practice with writing, and have fun with areas of
>the MU I consider to need shaking up.

Why not post/arrange an FTP site for them?

>-- 
>David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
>"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
>"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
>dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu
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From: donald@dvinci.USask.Ca (David Donald)
Subject: Re: X-Judas/PAD ?'s
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:42:39 GMT

vapspwi@prism.gatech.EDU (Jerry B. Ray, Jr.) writes:

>Anyway, i've rambled on enough.  Any thoughts?

>GO BRAVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya.  Just one.  GO JAYS!!! (:-)

Dave
>JRjr
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Rogue pregnant...
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:27:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.21072
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Oct8.121555.59536@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>Ok, lets say that Marvel breaks down and allows Rogue to do it.  What happens
>when she wants to have a child?  Does the baby's mind get sucked into hers?
>And she gives birth to something braindead?

Well, on the scale of possibilities, I'd say Marvel's plans to make Rogue
pregnant rate somewhere... oh, like

--Ross Perot admits to a Darth Vader fetish
--Soviet death satellites found to be owned by Disney
--Rogue gets pregnant
--DRH's band, Bush's Other Mistress, gets a record contract
--Ross Perot wins the election
--Cable gets a life

I, at least, have written a story where Rogue gets pregnant. For that matter,
I've written a lot of stuff about Rogue, the X-Men, and anything else that
catches my attention, usually with my character Darwin thrown in for
commentary. And, no, they haven't been published. They're my exercise for
myself to keep me in practice with writing, and have fun with areas of
the MU I consider to need shaking up.

In the story (don't worry, it was with her husband that she had the kid...
my stories have gone far from Marvel Universe) the first trouble was getting
her pregnant. Not wanting to get back into the Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex
discussion again, let's just ignore the troubles I found in getting her
pregnant, and cut to the ninth month:

After getting born (an adventure to itself), my decision was that so long
as the kid was still in the womb, they were basically one organism --
and, even if you were to count them separate, any memories or strength
Rogue could get off the kid would be pretty negligible. Once born, though,
she found out she couldn't touch the kid without affecting him as per
normal. The second kid (two years later) wasn't born with the protections
that they used for her first son, and so was born with serious neurological
problems. The second kid (now an adult, in DRH-MU) is living in a mental
institution, the first one was kidnapped by an enemy of Rogue and her
husband (hey, she's still an ex-X-Man, can't let her have any familial
happiness), and hasn't been seen since.

Now, when CABLE gets pregnant... that will be the first Cable story I buy.

-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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