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From: adamsd@crash.cts.com (Adams Douglas)
Subject: Re: Saturday morning (Was :Galaxy Trio/BirdMan)
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:09:28 GMT

>yep it existed.  King Kong befriends a young boy who with his father attempt
>to protect Kong from the *diabolical* Dr. Who. Um, this originally aired 
>between 1966 and 1969 so unless it was reaired later, you have an amazing
>memory to recall the theme.

>Michael
> a.k.a. The Phantom Scribbler

_I_ remember it from its original airing and _I_ still remember the theme.
And what about:

There's a prehistoric monster
who came from outer space
created by the martians to
destroy the human race
the FBI is helpless
it's 20 stories tall
what can we do who can we callll?

Call Tobor! The 8th Man!
Call Tobor! The 8th Man!
[forget two lines]
He's the mighty robot
he's the one to get
Quick call Tobor
the mightest robot of them allll!

I haven't seen 8th man since 1967, and I still remember the lyrics (  I was
11 - 12 ), talk about being impressionable :-).


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From: firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith)
Subject: Re: BTAS -- The Gray Ghost
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 05:13:25 GMT


Why was everyone so looking forward to this episode?  I mean, it was good,
but does the Gray Ghost thing have some significance that I'm missing?  Was he
a character in something else?

Firestar
-- 
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Unless it's called for.    | back on heaven.      | and lost than to have your
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Song of the South
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:39:55 GMT

ss1@kepler.unh.edu  writes:
> With all this talk of Song of the South, I'm getting saddened, since Disney
> has stated they won't release it again.  How about us all writing letters to
> Disney requesting that the thing would be released again *some*how.  Theaters,
> video tape, LD, whatever.  Do any of you think this would have any affect, or
> isn't this worthwhile?

	Dsney has released this on laserdisc.  However, it was released in 
Japan.  It is U.S. compatible, with the two video tracks containging Japanese
and English dialogue.  There is at least one distributor in the U.S., and I 
will try to excavate the information from my archives/bedroom.

Torsten at Omaha
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From: bs895@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terri M. Librande)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: X-Mas TV that we all used to love
Date: 10 Nov 1992 20:18:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Thurl Ravenscroft did do the singing in Grinch.  He was also the
voice of Tony the Tiger.  May still be.  His voice is all over 
Disneyland--even in the new ride I took last year that almost killed
me because the lunatic behind me made me sit in front and then 
laughed when I had that really bad stroke.  He definetly worked for
Disney.  I love his name, and it's one of those voices you don't forget.

You know what I miss--I own a copy of it now, but I really miss Rogers
and Hammerstiens Cinderella.  I wish that they'd put that on for the
little kids who never saw it.  Or rent it for your kids--the music and
costumes are right, even the primitive color video tape adds charm to it.
The color seems brighter, and more like technicolor than the color does 
now.  It was first on in 1965.  I can remember going to school after it
was on and watching the kids play Cinderella on the ice pond.  It brings
back good memories for me.
Terri in Cleveland
-- 
"My armor, my sword!  More misadventures?  Adventures old friend!"

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Subject: New Ren And Stimpy (Info For Ppl Without Alt. Groups!)
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:54:48 EDT
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

Ren And Stimpy will be new this week!  Saturday Night 9pm EST on Nickelodeon!

Yippie!

It'll have "Sven Hoek," "Don't Pea On The Electric Fence," and "Magic Nose
Goblins!"

JOY!

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From: donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: X-Mas TV that we all used to love
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:12:39 GMT
Organization: none

In article <1992Nov8.143326.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu> walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov8.171859.5294@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>> In article <BxBFn8.C46@ns1.nodak.edu> skar@plains.NoDak.edu (Keith Skar aka Roddy) writes:
>>>In article <1992Nov6.211705.13964@emr1.emr.ca> lskinner@emr1.emr.ca (Lauren Skinner) writes:
>>>>Does anyone know who the singer was in HOW THE GRYNCH STOLE CHRISTMAS?
>>>>
>>>>Was it Howard Keel?
>>>>
>>>>Inquiring minds wanna know...
>>>
>>>I think it was Boris Karloff
>>>
>>>-- 
>>>                     Keith M. Skar aka Roddy
>>>skar@plains.nodak.edu  Internet | And top psychics all agree, that the
>>>skar@plains             Bitnet  | telephone company, will have a brand
>>>.!uunet!plains!skar     UUCP   | new service that lets you talk to the dead.
>> 
>> Boris did the voice of the Grinch, but the singing was Thurl Ravenscroft.
>> I had an album from Disney as a kid, that had several songs by him on it,
>> and the voice is unmistakeable. <It was some album released to tie in
>> with all the publicity about the, then new, Haunted House ride at Disneyland.
>> Had "Grim Grinning Ghosts" on it too, which you actually still hear
>> during the ride>
>> Pax
>> 					--Judex--
>Thurl's voice may be unmistakeable to your ear, but personally I'd rather
>have a more definitive answer.  No offence intended, I'd just like to get
>this answered out of the credits.  I find it hard to believe that they'd get
>somebody whose voice was so similar to Boris when they had Boris right there.
>Unfortunately, I'm 2000 miles away from my videotape of the show.  Can
>somebody else please take a look at their copy and settle this?
>Joe Walker
>walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
> 
>> 

Since when did Boris ever sing? I can't find any mention of him singing
anywhere.
					
					--Judex--
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From: walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Bugs Bunny: The Rabbit of Seville
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Distribution: rec.arts.animation
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:16:16 PST

In article <1992Nov11.192555.21756@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, jackie8@dasher.cc.bellcore.com writes:
> In article <BxKCDB.671@ecf.toronto.edu> mckenzi@ecf.toronto.edu (MCKENZIE ROBERT NEIL) writes:
>>
>>Does anybody know if there is a "Merrie Melodies" videotape anthology
>>that has "The Rabbit of Seville" on it? If so, what is the name, and where
>>could I find it?
>>
> 
> I believe that rRoS is on the Golden Jubilee 14 Karat (carrot??:)
> collection of Bugs Bunny. (Blue cover) OR it may be on the Salute
> to Chuck Jones tape.  I have both and I can't remember which one
> it's on, but I know it's on one of them.
> 
> 
> Jackie
> ---
> Jackie Brady/jackie8@cc.bellcore.com/908-699-5458 (insert usual disclaimer)     (do not reply to the address in "From:" section. Use id in .sig to reply)
> Bell Communications Research / Piscataway NJ

Both "The Rabbit of Seville" and "What's Opera, Doc" are on the Elmer Fudd
tape.
Joe Walker
walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: BTAS: ALMOST GOT 'IM
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:55:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Nov11.235526.18331
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories


Again, Paul Dini impresses me by his remarkable knowledge of comics (the
Giant Penny!) and his impeccable characterization skills.  He's also very
good at writing opening and closing scenes; the bit at the opening with
the jazz music flowing in from the title screen, and ending right as Pam
approaches the card players was simply brilliant.

Unfortunately, this episode has "Dini's syndrome":  impressive-looking
death-traps without a well thought-out solution.  Thus we have Batman
jumping from the giant coin and landing on top of Two-Face, and getting
out of the electric laugh-o-meter by a properly placed barbecue fork.

I'm VERY impressed by the animation job from Dong Yang in this episode.
They'be been getting better and better.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpm.att.com
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: BTAS: Almost Got 'Im
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:03:03 GMT

walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
>Two great episodes in a row.  This one was totally different from "I Am
>The Night," of course, which is great--seen back to back the two demonstrate
>that BTAS can be great in either a dark-n-moody mode or a more amusing one.
>Some lines that broke me up: "We used to date," "I threw a ROCK at 'im!"
>"My av--my big birdhouse."

Paul Dini is an awesome writer.


>We got to see the origin of the giant penny.  Judging from Harvey's comments,
>we might even see it in the Batcave sometime (has it shown up there already?).

Just in case anyone missed it, this came from an actual Batman comic,
except that Robin was involved.   In the comic, they were both tied to
the giant coin, but when they landed the threat was a giant patch of
spikes.  If they landed face up, they'd be safe, if they landed face
down they'd be impaled (no thought of the broken bones from landing,
as in TAS).  It was almost certain to land face down because of the
extra weight, but Batman pulled some BS to "magnetize" the coin which
somehow made it land face up, whereupon they both escape and beat up
Two-Face and his gang.
-- 
When you mention something, if it's bad, it happens, if it's good it goes away.
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From: lgb2@po.CWRU.Edu (Linda G. Brashear)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Xmas tv that we all use to love
Date: 9 Nov 1992 05:27:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Yes, the monster, is called a "bumble" by Yukon Cornelius.  It's 
official designation is an abominable snowmonster, but Y.C. 
abbreviates it.  I know this because "Bumbles bounce" was my 
comfort in any movie or TV show that showed the death of a character
I liked when I was a child.  I reasoned that if bumbles can bounce
and survive (and therefore Y.C. survived) then any of the characters
I liked had an equal chance of surviving the deaths shown onscreen.  
It was my way of not getting too upset at deaths on shows.  Since then,
I've had to grow up.  Sigh.  I still like the quote, though :-).
-- 
"Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding"
					--Proverbs 3:5
"Aw, Mom, you act like I'm not even wearing a bungie cord!"--Calvin
"It's barbaric, but hey, it's home"--"Arabian Nights" from --Aladdin--
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: BTAS: What's The Deal?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:23:14 GMT

It seems like the Batman episodes we've been getting recently (with a
few exceptions) have been much better written than the earlier ones
(again, with a few exceptions).  The overall quality just seems much
higher, although its hard to say about the animation.  Are we into the
"We're getting comfortable with it" stage, are they editing better,
did they sack the bad writers, or what?


Oh yeah, I missed the first couple seconds of the episode today (with
the Rogues Gallery).  Can someone give me a title and author on it?
Another excellent writing job.
-- 
A penny saved is ridiculous.
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Subject: BTAS: Timeline
From: gunthar@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:00:16 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1992Nov5.162057.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu>, walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
> 
> A couple of did-you-notice thingies from recent BTAS episodes:
> 
> In "Gray Ghost," (note: grAy) the banner across the top of the huge PEOPLE
> magazine cover at the end of the episode said "Matt Hagan: Man of a Million
> Faces."  Can we take this to mean that "Gray Ghost" happens before "Feat of
> Clay?"  Is anybody keeping track of all these references in hopes of
> eventually working up a timeline?

The date on the magazine (just below the line about Matt Hagan) read:

October 19, 1992

I've learned to pay attention anytime they show a newspaper headline in an
episode.  They eventually show up in another episode to help establish a
timeline.

G.
From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: BTAS GREY GHOST (tiny spoiler)
Date: 5 Nov 92 00:17:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bx7vHI.784
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


I'm going to try spoilers....

Okay,  is not working

Damned lines!!
















Okay, am I the only one who yelled "Look, Fan-boy from Hell!"


-- 
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From: pmm34393@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dr. Vincent Vaugn )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: BTAS: How DID Batman get that coin???
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:24:42 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <abick.721600912@cunews> abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
>	Everyone seems to be knocking Batman for not being "resourceful"
>enough to beat his villians. Needing Joker's weenie fork is a good
>example, plus the fact that he didn't save himself, Catwoman did! I'll
>admit that this shouldn't be, but there have been some IMPOSSIBLE stuff
>going around too. The one that really sticks out in my book is...
>
>	THE DAMNED COIN!!!
>
>	How the hell did Batman get Two-Face's coin in Almost Got'm? I
>mean he was "pinned" down (arms AND legs) to the big coin so it's not like he
>could grab it from Two-Face? The only way I see him getting it is if
>Two-Face flipped it up and it land RIGHT IN Batman's hand. And that is not
>very likely.
>	Two-Face has been flippin that coin god knows how long so I think
>he must be good at it. Even if he isn't he should at least know when he
>misses right? So how did it get in Batman's hand?
>	I welcome even the most LUDICROUS of suggestions... such as Harvey
>Dent took over Two-Face (for a second) and gave the coin to Batman. Big
>Bad Harve then took over and realized that he didn't have his precious
>coin.
As far as Two-face is concerned, I was under the impression that Two-face
is NOT Big Bad Harve, it is a merging of the 2 sides of Harvey's personality.
If you listen to the two parts of the Two-face origin one after the other
you notice that Two-faces's voice is different from Harvey's or Big
Bad Harve. Since Moll does all the voices for the character, I assume the
voice change was intentional. The fact that Harvey is now a criminal does
not seem to fit in with his origin, which portrayed him as simply getting
back at Thorne. Unless his crimes are still designed to affect Thorne, there
is no reason that I see for him to be a criminal. 

>	Come on, I'm sure some of you out there must have similar
>suggestions.
>
>Alan Bick
>
>One last thing, how come Two-Face's coin is scratched on the end. I don't
>think it was originally. Even if it was, didn't Batman throw the coin into
>a fountain? Harvey couldn't tell it apart before, how could he find it in
>the fountain later. He didn't even know Batman threw it in the fountain!

I didn't think that the coin that Batman threw into the fountain was the
same coin. It was not specifically shown to be scarred on one side. Even
if it was, then Harvey could probably have gotten another 2-headed 
quarter from somewhere else. If he uses the same coin all the time, then
that could be a reason why it is all beaten up. Remember, he used to date
Poison Ivy in this episode, so it probably occurs a long while after his
origin. I still don't see how Batman got the coin--I agree that that 
makes no sense.
.



-- 

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From: andie@cs.umd.edu (Diane J. Donaldson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Animated "Christmas Carol"
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:55:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

Hi! I am looking for a specific, animated version of Dicken's "A Christmas 
Carol." Any information would be helpful; info on buying it (I don't think 
it's on video but I could be wrong) or offers to make a tape of it for me 
(I'll pay good money if you've got it) would be even more appreciated. Please 
respond via E-mail to the address below, since I don't have net.news anymore 
(this was posted for me by a friend).

Here are the details. The version I seek is only a half hour long, and yet, in 
those scant 24 minutes it is more faithful to the original book than any other 
version I've ever seen. In particular, it depicted the two children (Ignorance 
and Want) under the Ghost of Christmas Present's robe, a dark detail usually 
omitted from renditions of this story, particularly in an animated version.

The animation was of very high quality, with a look and feel that 
(deliberately, I believe) resembled 19th century woodcuts. The show looked 
more like a series of line drawings in motion than a cartoon. 

It first came out (I believe) in the early 1970's and was shown every year in 
my area (Washington DC) for a good many years, often in rather odd timeslots 
like 5:30 on a Saturday afternoon. Then it vanished, and I've not seen it 
since.

I am desperate to find a copy of this show on videotape. Please help me! 
Thanks.

                                         Andrew Looney
 					 looney@glarus.gsfc.nasa.gov
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: BTAS: Almost Got 'Im
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:07:41 GMT

Of *course* Bats always has all those universal antidotes!  You would too if 
your enemies were always gassing and poisoning you. }->
     Dave Van Domelen, Circular Logic Lad
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: Re: XTAS: NOTS part 2
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:53:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <gez33H_00Vos46LUV3@andrew.cmu.edu> kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin J.
Chen) writes:
>Ya know, I think NOTS is an appropriate acronym.  I kept watching this
>episode thinking, "NOT".

To each, their own. I'm hardly thrilled by it, but hardly upset by it.

>Also,
>when did Jubilee develop powers that could actually affect machinery?  I
>was under the impression that her powers were purely the generation of
>light (flashy stuff, rather than lasers) -- but it seems like she's
>acquired an odd combination of Kitty Pryde's phasing and Dazzler's
>powers.

Jube's been shown capable of doing large-scale destruction when suitably
motivated... check out the last of the Acts of Vengeance issues in Uncanny
X-Men, where she blows up the Mandarin's resort house.

I have no idea where you got the phasing comparison.


-- 
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From: walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: BTAS: two DYN's
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:20:57 GMT
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School


A couple of did-you-notice thingies from recent BTAS episodes:

In "Gray Ghost," (note: grAy) the banner across the top of the huge PEOPLE
magazine cover at the end of the episode said "Matt Hagan: Man of a Million
Faces."  Can we take this to mean that "Gray Ghost" happens before "Feat of
Clay?"  Is anybody keeping track of all these references in hopes of
eventually working up a timeline?

In "Dreams in Darkness," the doctor in charge of Arkham refers to the
Joker as "Jack Napier."  I guess this means they're using the movie origin
of the Joker.  Frankly, I prefer the comics version in which the Joker's
real name and history are unknown (and hopefully always will be).  It adds
to his horror if he's "the man from nowhere."  Anybody prefer the Napier
story?

Joe Walker
walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
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From: rkh@ucs.att.com (Bob Halloran)
Subject: Re: BTAS: two DYN's
Organization: AT&T Universal Card Services, Jacksonville FL
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:43:08 GMT

In article <2AF9FE45.5049@ics.uci.edu> rang@ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.162057.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu> walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
>>In "Dreams in Darkness," the doctor in charge of Arkham refers to the
>>Joker as "Jack Napier."  I guess this means they're using the movie origin
>>of the Joker.  Frankly, I prefer the comics version in which the Joker's
>>real name and history are unknown (and hopefully always will be).  It adds
>>to his horror if he's "the man from nowhere."  Anybody prefer the Napier
>>story?
>
>Urm.  The Jack Napier origin was used in "The Killing Joke"
>(a devestatingly good read IMHO), so I don't consider it necessarily
>from the movie.  Read it and feel sorry for a very much human Joker.

The Red Hood origin is standard; how he comes to be under the hood
is unknown.  TKJ definitely provides an interesting background,
but still leaves off a real name.

	Bob Halloran
	AT&T Universal Card
	Jacksonville FL

	rkh@ucs.att.com
Any similarity between opinions stated here and AT&T's 
  corporate opinion are purely coincidental.

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