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From: marc@cfmu.eurocontrol.be (Marc Philips)
Subject: Re: Hyperdrive multiplier
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 12:22:05 GMT
Organization: Eurocontrol - Central Flow Management Unit

In article <Bw1Mnz.3D3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cjp53999@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cory James Padfield) writes:
>   Q: What is the hyperdrive multiplier. I saw figures of x4, x3, x2, x1
>      and x1/2. I gather that the lower the number, the faster the speed
>      of the ship. What are th mathematics behind this. Also, I gather that
>      the x1/2 is equivalent to what Han said in Star Wars- "it'll do point
>      five..."

A trip in hyperspace between two systems has a standard duration which
correspond to the time needed to travel between them with a x1 hyperdrive.
With a different hyperdrive type, just multiply this standard duration with
the hyperdrive multiplier to find out how long the trip takes.

Although x1/2 can be purchased on the black market, they are normally
reserved for imperial military crafts.

-- 
Marc PHILIPS                    Davantage d'avantages avantagent davantage.
marc@cfmu.eurocontrol.be        
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From: alumni106@camins.camosun.bc.ca (Max Sterling)
Subject: Re: Vader's weakened character
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:50:51 GMT

In article <1bksu8INNk0o@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:

> 	If Lucas and Company go with this, it could make the first three movies
> much more interesting, and add an element or two of suspense.  Another question
> that comes up is that of who knows about Vader/Skywalker's true identity.  Ben
> and Yoda, obviously.  But what about "Uncle Owen", "Aunt Beru", and Bail
> Organa?  While they would probably agree to adopt the children of Anakin
> Skywalker, Jedi Knight, would they be so willing if they knew Luke and Leia
> were the children of Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith?

Well, I'm not sure about the Organa's but I assume they would. Owen and 
Beru DEFINITELY do. This much was revealed in SW IV by the following 
lines:

Beru - "You can't keep him here forever, Owen. He has too much of his 
father in him."
Owen - "That's what I'm afraid of."

Pretty obvious reference, IMHO. Mata ne.

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From: rku45136@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rajiv Udani)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Star Wars Price Guide ??
Summary: star wars
Keywords: star wars
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:26:35 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


Can someone please post or e-mail me the name, publisher, price, etc.
of the newest and best price guide there is for Star Wars stuff?
thanks...

rajiv
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From: lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie Lim)
Subject: Re: Vader's weakened character
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:33:07 GMT

In article <1bclj8INNt8d@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST201714@brownvm.brown.edu writes:

>  It was just disappointing to watch probably the best villain created
>weaken and die.  It wasn't even an admirable death...the Emperor would have
>died in the explosion of the DS (Luke would have lasted long enough to divert
>the Emperor's concentration).  Any comments?

	Well, if you'd written the script, how would you have killed Vader?
You can't have Luke kill him-- seduction by the Dark Side, and all that--
and i don't think he would've killed himself. Well, actually, he did in a way,
but I mean a dramatic seppuku kind of affair, with carbonized cyborg guts
tumbling about oh boy. I suppose the Emperor could have instantly killed him
with that final blast, but that would've axed the touching reconciliation
scene between father and son. (Insert quotes where appropriate)

	So really, I don't see how elswe it could've been managed, given the
context within the film. Or are you talking major rewrites here?


-- 
	My job is in New Jersey. My net account is in Delaware. My money is
somewhere in between.

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From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn (Carlos G. Niederstrasser)
Subject: Re: SW Chess Set?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:30:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.030957.6761@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu  
(Brian Perler) writes:
> In article <1bcasbINNk2s@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne  
Martin) writes:
> >	On a different subject, this summer someone mentioned on the net that a
> >STAR WARS Chess set (like the Star Trek one) was being made.  Any info when  
it
> >will be available and for how much?
> 
> A Star Wars chess set?  Interesting.  Of course, the question is:
> who would each of the pieces be?  I've come up with the following
> (tentative) idea:
> 
> White
> King: Luke
> Queen: Leia
> Bishop: Han
> Knight: C-3PO
> Rook: R2-D2
> Pawn: Normal rebel trooper
> 
> Black
> King: Emperor
> Queen: Vader
> Bishop: Tarkin
> Knight: Boba Fett
> Rook: Piett
> Pawn: Stormtrooper

Tarkin and Piett would probably look very similar (well Piett could have his  
little hat, I guess)  How 'bout an imperial guard for the bishop?  (The  
red-dudes)  Also for rooks there is also the possibility of using ships like in  
the ST chess set.
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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:05:20 EDT
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Mara Jade (A New Thread)

Any clue what is going to happen to Mara in the new Zahn book?

I assume that Thrawn and Pellaeon are going to be removed (ie: bumped off)
in the fashion of all important Impies in the movies (except Vader and the
Emperor)

But what is going to happen to the other main character introduced in
HTTE and DFR?  Is she going to be a 'good' character (join the New Alliance)
or is she going to be bumped off?

I tend to believe the latter, since that way whenever Lucas gets around to
making Episodes VII-IX, he doesn't have to worry about assimilating a new
character into the Rebellion/New Alliance, and Episode VII falls in nicely
behind ROTJ...

Also, any clue on what Episodes VII-IX will be called?  For I-III, I've seen
"The Clone Wars" (for I), and "Bane of the Jedi" and "The Fall of the Republic"
mentioned for III (or is FotR II?)

Something to keep us talking about, rather than how Vader died, etc...

Mike
---
                     Mike Weintraub  mweintr@american.edu
                   The American University -- Kenobi on IRC
            "Life in two dimensions is a mass production scheme"
                         --Rush,  "Grand Designs"
From: ST201714@brownvm.brown.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: ROTJ-Lynch, ROTJ-Soap Opera
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:29:44 EDT
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>
>In article <1b8j2tINNb1m@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST201714@brownvm.brown.edu ()
>writes:
>>A bio on Lynch gives his directorial history, and it includes his rejection
>>of being offered the apportunity.  I will say this...it would have been VERY
>>different from Marquand's version, maybe better.  If it would have been
>>anything like Dune (Long Version), ROTJ directed by Lynch could have been
>>one of the best movies ever.  (IMHO, of course)
>>
>
>Ugh.  If ROTJ had been *anything* like Dune (any version) it would have
>been one of the worst movies ever.  (IMHO, of course).
>--
>Doug Quale
>quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu

OK, I knew I'd take some heat for this comment, but all I'm going to say is
that I think ROTJ was missing something...like it was a movie with too big of
a budget.  Something people have to remember is that the Star Wars universe
is the product of George Lucas's mind.  He must have seen something he wanted
with Lynch, what I don't know.  I think we may not have seen what Lucas
actually hoped to present to the moviegoers.  Different people have different
tastes, so the debate of who would have done a better job is moot...Marquand
directed it, and Lynch did not.  We will never know what the Lynch version woul
d have brought us, just that as I wrote, it would have been VERY different.
I DID like ROTJ, but I would much rather watch SW  and TESB any day.  They were
 less soap-opera-ish.  I was always waiting for Chewbacca to inform us that
Chief Chirpa was a distant relative of an outcast Wookie, who helped Vader in
the slave-trade.  Or that somehow, Wedge was Luke's half-brother from his mom's
 second marriage with the King (?) of Alderrann (sp?)  The series lost its
"Galactic Western" style after Lucas vowed never to write, produce, and direct
at the same time again.  As for any new movies, what would people think of
Lawrence Kasdan to come back to the SW troupe?
                 My mind thinks of the weirdest things!
                           Hasta Luego,

                                        L. Eduardo Romo III
                                        st201714@brownvm.brown.edu
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From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn (Carlos G. Niederstrasser)
Subject: Re: Wanted SW figures!
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:45:48 GMT

In article <92286.173101LMS5@psuvm.psu.edu> <LMS5@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> In article <1992Oct9.164332.10671@ncsu.edu>, cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH
> GEORGOULIAS) says:
> >
> >In article <92282.111623JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu>, <JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu>  
writes:
> >|>
> >|>I have a best friend who only needs these few figures to have a complete  
92
> >set
> >|>Star Wars figure collection.  He is looking for the following:
> >
> >Well, by my count, there's *100* different figures available for the movies
> >(101 if you count the RocketFett), 6 for the Ewok cartoons and 12 for the      
s
> >Droid
> >cartoons.  I just wouldn't call 92 a *complete* set even from just the movie
> >figures standpoint.
> >
>     If memory serve me correctly (it rarely does :-), there were several
>   actions figures advertised on the back of the packaging that were never
>   sold in the U.S. I saw one of the figures at a convention several years
>   ago and the dealer was asking $150 :-( He said those figures were
>   released in Europe. Does anyone have a list of these figures? I believe
>   there were about 10 total.
> 
>   Laurie
> 
>   P.S. I am still looking for the 'Luke Skywalker' glass from 'Star Wars'  
that
>        Burger King gave away as promotions.
> 
>
To my knowledge, of the ones advertised in the back of the cartons, the only  
one that did not come out in the U.S. is YakFace.  Otherwise I did something  
impossible, since I bought all the rest in your friendly Toys'r'Us 


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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Last chance for "Star Wars" EPS Files
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:35:30 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com's message of 15 Oct 92 07:24:23 GMT

>>>>> On 15 Oct 92 07:24:23 GMT, pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) said:

pip> I psted a notice for those who were interested in geting a copy
pip> of my EPS files of "STAR WARS" logo (the words) in EPS files. I
pip> will honor any requests that reach me by friday, October 23.
pip> After that date, you are all out of luck (space on server is
pip> limited and unused files need to go)


pip> Also, the Stormtrooper EPS is no longer available....

If anyone has the Stormtrooper EPS, download it to the Archive. Thanks

--
 Scott Streeter                             Keeper of the Star Wars Archive
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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars,alt.mythology
Subject: Re: ROTJ-Lynch, ROTJ-Soap Opera
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:45:40 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct14.235601.19965@udel.edu> lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie Lim) writes:
>	I do think that some of the classical writers arbitrarily invented
>characters who were related to other, pre-existing characters; for example,
>in _The Libation-Bearers_, by <mumble> (Aeschylus?), there appears 
>Chyrsothemis, a daughter of Clytemnestra and Agamemnon who isn't referred to
>anywhere else in mythology or classical lit. But then, see my last sentence
>from the previous paragraph.

I would say that inventing a new relative is a LOT better than saying
two previously existing characters are related.  You don't need to
pull off as many plot contrivances that way.

I'll keep this short, as you were right:  This has drifted WAY out
of r.a.s.s.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: WANTED: SW Large Action Figures
Date: 12 Oct 1992 15:06:10 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


	I'm looking for the following large SW action figures.  I'm 
willing to pay reasonable prices, and might pay more if they're in the
original boxes and/or have all the accessories.

Boba Fett, 13.5" Tall, gray and green outfit, cape, rifle, backpack, 
		       2 "Wookie-scalps", belt

Darth Vader, 15" Tall, Black finish with helmet, black cape, red lightsaber


Please e-mail all responses to :   mmartin@wpi.wpi.edu
From: joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: test
Date: 9 Oct 1992 10:05:35 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
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This is just a test.....or is it?!?!?!?!?
From: z_buckda@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: WANTED:  Starwars Items (Book & Comic)
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:32:18 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University



	I am looking to purchase the following two items:

1)	'Heir to the Empire' by Timothy Zane
	1st. Edition Hardback with DJ

2)	Dark Empire #2 - the comic book
	First Print only
	Second edition copies say 'SECOND PRINT' inside the cover


	If anyone out there has either of these, please e-mail.  I am willing
to pay fair market price on these two items.

Thanks, David

z_buckda@ccsvax.sfasu.edu

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From: gfm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (George Francis McBay)
Subject: Re: Starwars/Steven King... Hunh???
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:13:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.090404.11743@anasazi.com> rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr) writes:
>I would really like to know exactly what the situation is with Stephen
>King and these movies.  Anybody know?

	I *do* know that Stephen King succesfully sued to have his name
removed from "The Lawnmower Man."
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Archive File updates
Date: 9 Oct 92 07:42:17
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: Edward John Sabol's message of Fri,  9 Oct 1992 03:52:33 -0400 

>>>>> On Fri,  9 Oct 1992 03:52:33 -0400 , Edward John Sabol <es2j+@andrew.cmu.edu> said:

Edward> Scott,

Edward> I have about 5 megabytes of sounds from Star Wars, Empire, and
Edward> ROTJ for the Macintosh. Would you be interested in them for
Edward> the SW ftp archive?  There has been some interest in sound
Edward> files in the newsgroup. They are all very good quality sounds.
Edward> I guess the real question is whether you have the room? I
Edward> believe I read a message a while back where you said you had
Edward> less than 4 megs. I bet you have even less now. Have you
Edward> gotten any more space yet?

Well unfortunately I do have LESS room now. There's no way I can fit
5 MEG which is a shame. Has anyone gotten the .VOC sounds there to
work? Would people prefer a standard? I know I mentioned in a previous
post I personal didn't care, but if a majority of the people getting
files would like a "standard" it might make things easier. If so I can
remove the .VOC files, and that would free up 1 MEG easy. Let me know
folks...

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From: zorro@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (John Grabowski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Lynch directing SW (Re: Cast of 'Prefix' Trilogy ... )
Date: 11 Oct 92 03:52:32 GMT
Organization: Temple University
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slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca wrote:
: > >I have this recurring nightmare: it's 1997, and Episodes I-III
: > havebeen
: > >released in theatres.  The first one is directed by David
: > Lynch, te
: > 
: > Hey, don't knock David.  Just think of what a great vision
: > of the empire he would have, dark, somber, preverted, surreal,
: > and full     of very interesting characters.            
:  
: I understood that David Lynch was offerred _JEDI_ by Lucas but turned
: it down.
:  
: I seem to recall reading that in an interview/article when DUNE was
: first released.
:  
: Stephen Legge
: SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca

I dunno about that.  In several detailed biographical articles and a book I 
have read on Lucas and Jedi, that was never mentioned.

Anyway, could you imagine Star Wars, Hyperspace With Me...Who murdered
Aunt Beru ?   ;-)


John
From: martin@zen.maths.uts.edu.au (Martin Caden)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's Death
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:37:22 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
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In <1992Oct15.044218.6267@njitgw.njit.edu> bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu
(Brian Perler) writes:

>>By the way, exactly how well-trained in the Force does one have to be 
>>before one earns the privilege of having one's body dematerialize upon
>>death?  Any theories?
>
>Good question.  Well, I suppose it's safe to assume that anyone with
>a Jedi title (Knight or Master) would.  I suppose you would need
>some degree of mastery in the Force to do it, but would you need
>to be a full-fledged Jedi?  I would assume so, but that's just
>pure speculation.  I just can't imagine Luke, at the level of
>training he was at in ESB, doing the fade-out.  In ROTJ, yes,
>but not ESB.  IMHO, of course.

I don't think that "fading out" is common for any Jedi.  Remember how suprised
Vader seemed in ANH when Ben disappeared.  We are told that Vader hunted down
and killed the last of the Jedi Knights so he should have known what to expect.

It's possible that Ben and Yoda - realising that their physical lives were
effectively over but wanting to influence the ensueing events - transformed
themselves into a ghostlike figure 'at'/'just before' their deaths.  ie. The
destruction of their physical bodies released their "spirit". This process
is obviously irreversible and they eventually lose contact with the physical
world ie. die.  Vader would not have done this (may not have known that it
could be done) - however the burning of his body may have freed his "spirit".

Perhaps that's why Ben burned the bodies on Tatooine - he knew what he was
doing.
--
  Cheers,   O
           /|\ Martin Caden                   School of Mathematical Sciences
           /^\ martin@zen.maths.uts.edu.au    University of Technology, Sydney
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:16:23 EDT
From: <JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: WANTED! SF figures!

I have a best friend who only needs these few figures to have a complete 92 set
Star Wars figure collection.  He is looking for the following:
Amanaman
Paploo
Luke in Battle Poncho
Imperial Gunner
Luke in Stormtrooper
Romba
Han in Carbonite
R2 with pop up lightsaber
EV-9D9
He is willing to pay a _fair_ price. (By fair he means that neither party gets
cheated).  If you only have one or two of these, great!  He'll take anything he
can get!!  Please e-mail me with responses at  jmc159@psuvm.psu.edu
Thank you in advance!!
                        Jill
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From: dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: dumb Empire question; "OB1"
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
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In article <1992Oct10.215125.22679@wheaton.wheaton.edu>, nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill) writes...    
>	BTW, I wish people would stop calling Obi-Wan OB1. The clone thing is
>a fun idea to some, but really unfounded. There is an much more likely 
>explanation for his name, which I've already posted but will be happy to
>re-explain anytime. 

There is a much more likely explanation for the reason people post OB1, and 
that is the fact that if you've never seen the name in print, on screen 
"OB1" is what it sounds like.  I'd wager that half the people who use the 
misspelling have no idea what "the clong thing" is.

--Gallandro

    "Take it easy, kid.  It's only a movie."   --Ham Salad, "Hardware Wars"