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From: hscohen@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Harvey S. Cohen)
Subject: Re: automatic re-referencing in W4W 2.0a doesn't work?
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:58:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.202317.13628@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz) writes:
>1. When inserting a _previously_ defined reference (by
>clicking it twice, copying, going to a new place, and
>pasting), the W4W gives it a new reference number and
>copies it into the ref list as a new entry. This is as
>idiotic as it can be, although the techie at MS initially
>claimed that references should always be numbered consecutively. 
>Is there a way to get the automatic ref renumbering to work
>as it should (i.e., to have the previous ref number inserted
>and not having it repeated in the ref list?)
There is no supported bibliographic referencing in W4W. I really wish
there were. There is an UNSUPPORTED set of "sample" macros distributed
with the latest version of W4W that sort of works.  It stores
bibliographic references as Glossary entries. I am pretty sure there is
no way to make it work correctly with numbered references. I suggest you
use "(Author, year)" style references, with an alphabetized reference
list. It's easy to do with the MS software, and it's friendlier for the
reader.

Now I use EndNote Plus, which is unfriendly and expensive but is a
serious biblio database that works correctly with W4W.
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	AT&T Bell Labs / HO 3B532 / 908 949 0173
	Crawfords Corner Rd. / Holmdel, NJ  07733 / U.S.A.
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From: jegm@cody.esd.sgi.com (Jim Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: Problem with PCPlus/Win and General Protection Fault
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:57:35 GMT
Reply-To: jegm@esd.sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

I suggest you call Datastorm tech support, and FAX them the Dr. Watson
LOG.

I have never had a GPF from PCPlus/WIN
-- 
Jim Morris, Email: jegm@esd.sgi.com  Voice: (415) 390-5136
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.sys.laptops
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: LapLink-type SW for Windows?
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:15:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: na

In article <1992Aug27.134046.13131@das.harvard.edu> gordy@endor.uucp (Robert 
Gordy) writes:
>
>Laplink willl let you do the same thing that DiskShare does.  Part
>of Laplink is a driver which allows you to access the other computers
>disks and other devices fairly seamlessly.  The only problem is
>that you have to connect the two machines via the serial port
>which means that throughput is only ~1.5 Meg/sec as opposed to 
>5 Meg/Sec when you hook up through the parellel port.

DiskShare can use either a parallel or a serial port. 

-- 

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Jack Hamilton   jfh@netcom.com   P. O. Box 281107   SF, CA   94128-1107
From: carter@cemvax.cem.msu.edu (Tom Carter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: re: automatic re-referencing in W4W 2.0a doesn't work?
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:26:22 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, East Lansing Michigan

>If you wait a mere week you can have a reference program for W4W (and
>others) running under windows: simon@minster.york.ac.uk here has written one,
>and we're just in the final stages of testing it. I have EndNote plus. A
>bigger heap of junk I have not seen. If it were free it would be overpriced.
>
>I think I am right in saying that the program (called WinRefer) about to
>released will be "conscienceware": i.e. give some money if you like it a lot.
>WinRefer works with refer format references but not CrApTeX format, so
>you'll have to write a filter to take your references into refer format. It
>uses the clipboard to paste reference entries and reference tags into a
>document (you can paste either RTF or ascii text into a word document). There 
>is even a reference formatting language so you can set up the style of 
>references you like (e.g. one per journal).
>
>WinRefer is dedicated to the downfall of EndNote Plus and all other
>overpriced shite for the PC.
>
>--
>Ken Tindell             Internet      : ken@minster.york.ac.uk
>Computer Science Dept., Local FTP site: minster.york.ac.uk
>York University,        Tel.          : +44-904-433244         
>YO1 5DD, UK             Fax.          : +44-904-432708
>--
>"The Gulf War won't be like a Rambo film; it will be long, bloody and terrible"

please, Please, PLEASE give me a copy and/or send it to ftp.cica.indiana.edu
when it's done! I'll love you forever if it's half as good as you say!
============================================================================
|         Tom Carter                    |     carter@cemvax.cem.msu.edu    |
|   Michigan State University           |     carter@msucem.bitnet         |
|     Chemistry Department              |                                  |
============================================================================
From: umltokyo@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Almanac 3.0c bug?
Date: 30 Aug 92 06:23:56 GMT
Organization: University Of Queensland

In article <0095EE15.F182E8E0@FHYDRA.FYSEL.UNIT.NO>, dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes) writes:
> Hello.
> 
> I've just installed the "crippleware" version of Alamanc 3.0c and I'm
> now doing a 30 days evaluation of it. The software looks very good,
> just what I want. The bad thing is that it took me about 2 minutes
> before I got the "General Application Error" (GAE) window (don't have
> the exact text, but I think it was at 3:037e). There was two buttons
> in the window, one to ignor the error and one to close the
> application. In most cases I was able to keep on going by using the
> ingor button, but after some time I have to use the close button.
> 
> I was viewing the month calendar and using the '<-' and '->' buttons
> to move around. It seems to work fine to move forward in time, but not
> backward. At least the frequences if the GAE windows was much higher
> when moving backward in time than forward.
> 
> Does anyone know if this bug is "normal" for version 3.0c of Alamanc
> or is it just me that got this error? Does a newer version of Alamanc
> exist? I'm asking this because I want to send the registration money
> for the Almanac and get a "un-crippeled" version of it. But I don't
> want to buy it if it got a bug that is so visibly as this is.
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> * I went back to my mother,           * Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes           *
> * I said, "I'm crazy ma, help me!"    * University of Trondheim            *
> * She said, "I know how it feels son, * The Norwegian Institute of Tech.   *
> * 'cause it runs in the family."      * Division of Physical Electronics   *
> *       - The Who, Quadrophenia       * e-mail: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no  *
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+--+-+-+-+-+-+-+
From: mrh@camcon.co.uk (Mark Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Need To Delay Execution Of Startup Group Item
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:22:56 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Consultants Ltd., Cambridge, UK

corfmanr@gtephx.UUCP (Russ Corfman) writes:

>> bugs/problems, I need to make sure that the particular x-client is the last
>> item in the startup group to execute, and it must execute only after
>> everything else finishes executing.  Is there some way to do this? 

>It is my experience that items in the startup group are started from
>top left to bottom right. With this thinking, you could just make 

In fact I think it is in the order they were added to the group
which is not necessarily the same as the above. Hence whenever you
add something to the start up group, just drag the x-client icon
away with the mouse, drop it into anoth group, and then drag it
back to the startup group.

Mark
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From: rnoia@netcom.com (Roger F. Noia)
Subject: Re: Has anyone used Micrografx Draw?
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 04:33:41 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

-------

I have used both Microgrfx DRAW! and Designer (Big brother of Draw!)
and am impressed with them both.  Especially Draw!
Draw has almost all the abilities of Designer except that you can
only work on one page.  (Designer can work on a desktop of something
like 49 pages all connected together)
Draw is very quick and easy to learn... although the icon buttons on the
left hand side of the screen are kinda an odd choice (not the buttons)
that I would have put there... on the left are :pointer options, draw
options, text options, view options and color options.

with pointer options you can select, rotate, redifine curves/beziers

with draw options you can: draw a line,box,rounded box,ellipse/circle,curve,
poly-line,pie,arc, and freehand ... also do filling and line styles

with text options.. you can change text to one of the 18 that it comes with
or use any of the other ones installed in windows.  truetype works
very well.  

view options let you choose what view you are using: actual size, selected, page and redraw.

color options let you change foreground,background, line and text color, 

gradient to and from colors.

oh.. you can also rotate and flip objects, group and ungroup, slant,
stretch, and FIT TO A CURVE, gradient fill
and it comes with 12 MEGS of clipart.

also... printing is fast and so is saving/loading a file.

all for $99 !!!
----
what I don't like:  can't change background desktop color.. always white
can't change buttons on left side of screen. (in designer you can
but designer is $400 bucks).  
color pallettes are difficult to customize.

--------
on a scale of 1 to 100 (100 is great), I give it a 92%
.

Roger

rnoia@netcom.netcom.com






color

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From: larry@palan.uucp (Larry Strickland)
Subject: Re: WP for Windows or Word?
Organization: Palantir Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:30:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.222333.1@vax1.umkc.edu> edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>In article <rick.46.714326645@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu>, rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard M. Warner) writes:
>> In article <2979@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU> jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier) writes:
>>>...
>>>}WP4Win is not really WYSIWYG; it's more of a pseudo-WYSIWYG.  To demonstrate
>>>}this select normal (non-draft) mode.  Select a proportionally spaced font
>>>...
>> This is actually true of ALL the Windows word-processors (not, necessarily
>> of the page-layout programs, however).  Ami-Pro is very close.  Look at
>
>	Yeah what I would REALLY REALLY like to see is the ability to actually
>see the footers I put in on the actual page while on the screen. I don't about
>you all but this really bugs me. I don't know if W$W is also like this.
>At any rate I hope WP4W adds this next time around.....
>........Are you listening Word Perfect Corp.

As someone pointed out before, until the screen resolution matches (closely)
the printer resolution, this will probably always be true.  Even Ami Pro which
is touting how good they are has a conveniently placed 'pull quote' over one
place on their ad which doesn't quite match what is printed!

As was asked for above, though, W4W can show you the footnotes on the screen
at the same time as the document.  You choose the 'Page Layout' view of the
screen.  Then headers, footers, footnotes and other detritus appears along
with the normal characters, albeit slower (not much, though).

I just tried this and found that in a 'full-page' view, you can actually see
everything being entered, but you need a pretty big monitor to actually read
anything.  With a smaller zoom amount, you can read everything, but you must
scroll up or down to see text/footnotes.

I'm using a 16" monitor (NEC 4D) at 1024x768, so I suspect a 19" or 20"
monitor at 1280x... resolution would work pretty well.

-larry
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: omk@jyu.fi (Oiva M Kuittinen)
Subject: HELP: Designer pics in WP docs
Summary: Missing lines in printouts
Keywords: Designer, TIFF, WordPerfect, PostScript
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:50:49 GMT

I draw pictures with Designer 3.1, export them to .TIF (or .WPG) format,
include these graphics in WordPerfect documents and then print the
documents using a PostScript printer.

My problem is the following:

.WPG pictures take up very little disk space but seem to print unreliably
and are not so nice to look at. .TIF picture printing works - that is,
most of the picture area is printed correctly most of the time - but SOME
PARTS OF GRAPHIC OBJECTS ARE LEFT UNPRINTED. This is especially true, but
not limited to, the uppermost parts of the picture - for instance, the
top of a rectangle is missing.

What should I do to correct the problem, or is there indeed anything to
be done (except making all the lines thicker etc.)?

Please reply directly to my account.

Oiva Kuittinen
From: edmoore@vcd.hp.com (Ed Moore)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Is there "Rooms"/HPVue manager for windows?
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:59:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: vcd.Btyn7w.JA
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

In addition to the Xerox product, there are a couple of programs in the PC
Zone catalog that sound similar.  Has anyone tried these?

Virtual Monitors, by Baseline Publishing, $44
WideAngle, by Attitash, $78
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: bwalker@IMD.Sterling.COM (Bruce Walker)
Subject: Dart scoring application
Organization: Sterling Software, IMD
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:56:59 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 9622746f2adb5be6bfbdabfcfc24b5a4

I would like to acquire a dart scoring program that
would allow me to use my 386 computer with windows and
a mouse to keep score of dart games. If anyone out there
has a place to buy, acquire or get something like this
I would appreciate it.

Thanks. 

PS  just tired of having to do all the math for everyone
    I have over to play darts.

-- 
-- 
Bruce Walker	             UUCP:     uunet!sparky!bwalker
Sterling Software IMD        INTERNET: bwalker@IMD.Sterling.COM
1404 Ft. Crook Rd. South     Phone:    (402) 291-8300 
Bellevue, NE. 68005-2969     FAX:      (402) 291-4362
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: poffen@rushmore (Russ Poffenberger)
Subject: Re: Wnqvtnet screen scroll is painfully slow
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 20:34:57 GMT

ken@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
: Brett D. Watson (brettw@matt.ksu.ksu.edu) wrote:
: : >In article <robert.715252601@swanee> robert@swanee.ee.uwa.edu.au (Roberto Togneri) writes:
: : >>I like winqvt except for one very annoying fact:
: : >>
: : >>The screen scroll is interminably slow and painful. Especially when
: : >>listing a long file.
: : 
: :   But WHY does a simple text window scroll so slow?  I have the same
: : problem as Roberto and I use 1024x768x256.  Text in ANY other window
: : scrolls just fine.  And my connection is ethernet so that's fairly
: : fast.  Come to think of it though, if I run a TN3270 window I have the
: : same problem.  What gives?
: 
: I have a fast local bus S3 graphics card and the scrolling is now tolerable.
: Under a Trident or Oak or Tseng Labs it's damn awful. Let's face it,
: WinQVT scrolling is just dreadful: if you use the scroll bar on the side to
: go back a few lines you'll see it _redraws_ the whole screen for every line.
: It's just badly written, that's all. Now, if I had access to the TCP (e.g.
: via a DLL) then I could have done something about it. But I haven't. Which is
: why I am ditching WinQVTNet and going across to PCNFS 4.0 (beside the fact
: that PCNFS 4.0 comes with telnet for windows anyway).

Don't be too quick to judge. I have written a comm program, and have to
wrestle with the problem of Windows slow scrolling and painting, and I
can assure you that even using the Windows API functions for scrolling a
client region without repainting is no speed demon either. Accelerator
cards like the S3 based ones are EXTREMELY fast at video to video BitBlt
which is what scrolling is, up to 50X faster than a dumb video card where
the CPU has to read the video memory, shift it, and write it back out.

Face it. When you are talking about a graphics environment, not having
some help with an accelerated card is going to be slow. Remember that even
text is still just pixels when writing to the video, not like DOS text mode
where the card does the text generation.

Russ Poffenberger               DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com
Schlumberger Technologies ATE   UUCP:   {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen
1601 Technology Drive		CIS:	72401,276
San Jose, Ca. 95110             Voice: (408)437-5254  FAX: (408)437-5246
From: jld@datascope.com (Jay L. Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Ami Pro 3.0 bug?
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:34:29 GMT
Organization: Datascope Corp.

In article <0yan_8@lynx.unm.edu> jfreter@triton.unm.edu (The Myth) writes:
>Well, my Ami Pro 3.0 finally came yesterday, but while working it over, I
>noticed something that may be a bug.  Take any words/sentence/paragraph and
>select a point in the middle to insert some text.  Start typing.  The letters
>you type appear on top of the words that are already there.  In addition, a
>copy of those letters stays put while the line moves aside to make room the
>new text.  When you toggle view modes, all appears normal.  Is this a bug
>and is there a bug fix or less hasslesome work-around.
>
>System:
>386sx/20
>4 MB RAM
>60 MB hard drive with Superstore 2.0
>MS DOS 5.0/Windows 3.1 running 4dos 4.0 as shell.
>MS Mouse/Logitech mouse (happens with either)


I just starting using version 3 today and noticed the same thing. It seems
to happen on lines with special formatting, such as a word or two being
in bold or italics. The only other bad thing seems to be it is using an
awful purple color for the margins and I can't seem to change it. I just
shut it off but I would prefer a light yellow (like it used to be).

---Jay Davis
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Norton Desktop and non-multi-tasking (CORRECTED!)
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:08:43 GMT

ddoherty@ics.uci.edu (Donald Doherty) writes:
>I've used the Norton Desktop for Windows front end soo long that I attributed
>the same behavior to the File Manager.  Since the inability to do anything
>else while disk formating takes place seems to be specific to NDW, the
>original question was a good one.  That is, why this limitation?

Because on most systems, Windows slows to a crawl when you format a
disk, and they don't want you to think that it's NDW's fault, perhaps?
Or maybe to prevent you from trying to do something to the disk while
it's being formatted, such as copying a file to it.
-- 
Gee, I'd love to, but I'm converting my calendar watch from Julian to Gregorian
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: XTree for Windows
From: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz (Lance Andrewes)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 08:38:42 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: none

M.Jackson@unsw.edu.au writes in article <1992Aug30.235930.15984@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>:
> 
> Has anyone tried XTree for Windows ? If you have been using XTreeGold, how
> does it compare ? Have they managed to combine the "classic" XTree keystrokes
> with the Windows style (is it configurable to whichever style) ?

We just got it today, so after a very brief play: It doesn't have the
Gold keystrokes, so you'll have to adapt to a new app.  And is it
essentially a new app, not just a port of the DOS program.  It seems
to do everything Gold does, and a bit more.  And so it should - my
DOS installation is just under 1MB with a few viewers.  The equivalent
Windows installation is 2.4MB.

I suspect I'll come to like it.  Even after about 4 years of using the
DOS version I find it quite intuitive.

One slight problem - under OS/2 2.0 WinOS2 it has problems
logging the HPFS volumes.  I _have_ to turn speedlogging off, and
even then on startup it gives a "Device read error on <drive>, file
not found" for each of the HPFS drives.  It's not fatal, and the
drives are then logged.  What I really really want is an OS/2 version,
with HPFS support.  But this is the wrong group for that fantasy :-)

I haven't tried the LINK program.
__
 _______  Email: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz
////      ZL2AJH    Wellington, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: mortenaa@Lise.Unit.NO (Morten Aagaard)
Subject: SYSTAT for WINDOWS
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 21:21:58 GMT

Would somebody please upload the demo of Systat for Windows to:
ftp.cica.indiana.edu
in the directory:
pub/pc/win3/uploads

Thanks!
From: lwwald@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (LARRY WALD)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: PackRat vis a vis Ascend PIMs
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:34:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I'd like to get some feedback about the subject personal info. managers 
from anyone that has used (and is using) them.  I'm mainly interested in 
tracking events and the personal calendar features.  Thanks--  Larry
From: pitaro@joker.sanders.lockheed.com (Michael Pitaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Norton Desktop and non-multi-tasking
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:06:40 GMT
Reply-To: pitaro@rocket.sanders.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.
In-reply-to: ddoherty@ics.uci.edu's message of 31 Aug 92 01:08:44 GMT

In article <2AA1711C.7857@ics.uci.edu> ddoherty@ics.uci.edu (Donald Doherty) writes:

   That is not a feature of NDW but is a feature of MS Windows.  The multi-
   tasking under Windows (without getting into semantic arguments about the
   term multi-tasking) is limited in that certain I/O work takes full control.
   Most particularly disk I/O.

   Don

I've been running format from a DOS window and have been able to
continue other tasks in parallel.  Have I been violating some obscure
operating rule?
--
Michael Pitaro                              Lockheed Sanders, Inc.
                                            PO Box 868, MER24-1583C
Signal Processing Center of Technology      Nashua, NH 03061-0868
pitaro@rocket.sanders.com                   603/885-9794 (Voice)
(or) ...!uunet!rocket!pitaro                603/885-0631 (FAX)
From: tso@cephalo.neusc.bcm.tmc.edu (Dan Ts'o)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Statistics package recs ? SPSS ?
Date: 4 Sep 1992 06:35:37 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston,Tx


	Can anyone recommend a good statistics and plotting package for
Windows ? Anyone try the new SPSS/W ? How about Stanford Graphics ?
	Please email responses. Thanks.

				Cheers,
				Dan Ts'o		212-327-7671
				Dept. Neurobiology	dan@rna.rockefeller.edu
				Rockefeller Univ.	...s5!rna!dan
				1230 York Ave.		tso@rockvax.bitnet
				NY, NY 10021

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