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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:07:17 -0500
From:         Daniel Burstein <dannyb@PANIX.COM>
Subject:      no docs for NYC EMS

Is there a doctor in the (EMS) house? often No!

WNBC-tv, channel 4, continued its coverage of problems with NYC-EMS. In
tonight's broadcast, reporter  David Browde  described the frequent lack
of doctors in EMS's headquarters in Maspeth, Queens.  Transcript provided
by Danny Burstein. Usual disclaimers as to accuracy and spelling apply.

Anchor Matt Lauer: With precious time ticking away, EMS technicians rely
on doctors to advise them on treatment for critically ill patients.  But
News4's David Browde has learned there is a critical shortage of those
doctors.

Reporter David Browde: It's the paramedic's lifeline, the doctor at
medical control at EMS headquarters. But News4 has learned the lifeline
has become increasingly fragile.

Dave Browde: Under EMS rules, paramedics and technicians are required to
contact doctors under two different circumstances;  1) if a patient does
not want medical attention, and the other, if the patient needs it very
desperately. <quick cut to console:"fourteen victor for a (cardiac)
arrest...">

Dave Browde: But the doctor's chair in the room called "telemetry" in Ems
is vacant between ten and thirty percent of the shifts.  That activates a
backup system, with emergency room physicians in hospitals patched in by
radio - that is, if they can get away from their other duties.

Local 2507 president Richard Gutwirth: It's definitely a problem for the
paramedic (and even) more so for the patient who has to wait, and if we're
in a life threatening situation, this is a dangerous thing...

Dave Browde: EMS officials say they've been aware of the doctor shortage
for some time and they've advertised for new staff <quick clip shown of
newspaper ad looking for doctors...>.  (It's so bad) that a lot of the
time the service's medical director has had to take over herself,
sometimes for sixteen hours at a stretch.

Dr. Giordano: At no time has there ever been any patient care compromise.

Dave Browde: Union officials disagree.  They say patients have been hurt
by the delays, and say it can get worse.  They (the workers) can't be in
two places at once.

Richard Gutwirth: Many people will end up going to the hospital that don't
need to go to the hospital, because the ultimate authority not to take
them rests here in telemetry.  So what will happen is that we'll be
transporting someone who does not need (to go to the hosital, and while
we're doing this) a cardiac arrest will occur, and (we won't be there to
help).

Dave Browde: Dave Browde, News4, New York

Anchor Matt Lauer: And how serious is the doctor shortage?  Dr.  Giordano,
the program director, is on duty herself at (EMS) medical control.  She's
covering two shifts; she started at 4 pm today and she will not be
finished until 8 am tomorrow.
From: David.Stark@f322.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (David Stark)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: For Sale: Motorola VHF Mobile
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 16:49:00 -0800

 >  MOJ> Motorola Radius M-100 VHF mobile radio:
 >  MOJ>         140MHz - 160MHz capability

    The UUCP guys have been complaining about the "personal" messages in
Fidonet because of the traffic load that they generate with little
useful content.

    Speaking of useful content.....

    I have seen two almost unbelievably ignorant responses to the above
posting.  One asked if the radio could work on 33.90 MHz and the other
wanted to know about a frequency in the 154 MHz range.  Can't these
people
count?  140-160 means all the numbers BETWEEN 140 and 160.

 * Origin: URMCFB Captain (1:2613/322)
From: Todd.Hockert@f6.n288.z1.fidonet.org (Todd Hockert)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR....
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:39:40 -0800

How interesting, Lynn is working in the Resp. Dept. at St Luke's
Hospitals in Fargo, ND. She is also working part time for the Norman Co.
Ambulance in Ada, MN. Don't want to give her address out here so try her
in care of St Lukes Hospitals MeritCare, RT Department, 720 4th St N,
Fargo, ND 58122. I am sure that will work. I have also done a print
screen of your message and if I see her I will pass it on.
 * Origin: FlatLand bbs Fargo ND, DS-HST(701)-239-6048  (1:288/6)
From: David.Stark@f322.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (David Stark)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Monroe County OEC shutdown?!?
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 17:02:00 -0800

 > From: sperber@ee.rochester.edu (Michael Sperber)

 > Does anyone in the area know what happened today at the Monroe
County
 > OEC/911 Center today??  I have heard something along the lines that

    According to the news media, it was fumes from a sealant that was
being used in the Civic Center Garage that caused the evacuation.  
Several persons in the Public Safety Building were transported to local
hospitals for evaluation.

 > Is this all (or in part) true??  If so, it seems kind of funny to me,
to
 > request the public not to call 911 unless it is a 'life or death'
 > emergency.

    It wouldn't seem so funny if you heard some of the garbage for which
people in Rochester normally call 9-1-1.

 * Origin: URMCFB Captain (1:2613/322)
From: Lou.Doucet@f1.n3638.z1.fidonet.org (Lou Doucet)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Reedy creek fire dist, fl
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:51:00 -0800

MS>Isn't the Reeddy Creek Fire District the Fire Department at Walt
Disney Worl
MS>????

Yes, and a real Mickey Mouse Department.As a matter of fact the only
one.

 * OLX 2.1 * Keep Clinton warm this winter he hates the draft.


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From: chrise@gtm-inc.com (Chris Ecclestone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: NYS BLS Protocols
Keywords: Auto-Defibrilation, EMT
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:18:37 EST
Reply-To: chrise@gtm-inc.com (Chris Ecclestone)
Distribution: N. America
Organization: G.T.M. Incorporated, Kingston, ON (613) 546-3078

> HB>I hear auto-defribilation, and maybe some preloaded Rx may be
> included
> HB>in the standard EMT course.

        I hope you mean semi-auto defibrillation!  Full auto can cause 
problems when carying a patient on a metal stretcher (eg down stairs) and 
the machine says "Clear ..." ;)
> 
> 
 Chris Ecclestone, E.M.C.A.

--------------------------------------------------
chrise@gtm-inc.com (Chris Ecclestone)
G.T.M. Incorporated BBS - 613/546-3078 [9600 v.32]
From: Arthur.Jones@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Arthur Jones)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Magazines
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:46:00 -0800

Linda,

  Check out "Prehospital and Disaster Medicine" and "Emergency
Medicine"

magazines. They are both published by JEMS on a quarterly basis. They
do
away
with a lot of the "junk" advertisements and "cute" article and
concentrate on
the latest research, reports, etc.

                                    ~Art
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:30:00 EST
From:         "Shirley D. Kennedy (813) 442-9066" <KENNEDS@MAIL.FIRN.EDU>
Subject:      RE: JOKE?

What is this nonsense, and how did it get here?
From: Blake.Bowers@f33.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Motorola MX-350
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:43:03 -0800

 -=> Quoting John Linko to Kevin Mcgee <=-

 JL> If you need to put new frequencies in the radios, watch out. If
the
 JL> radios are crystal or TCXO controlled, the prices of new crystals
run
 JL> 40 to 50 dollars each. Same for PL reeds if you need new PL's. If
the
John, a reasonable price can be had from a number of crystal dealers,
starting
at below $10.00, and up, depending on the deliverytime.  TXCO's can
be had, from a number of resellers, for around 10.00.   Pl Plug ins are
the
same.  
 JL> MX350 in good shape would be $300 to $500. If they need
reprogrammed
 JL> (or re-crystalled, especially), expect to pay that much in parts
and
In Mobile Radio Technology, used MX350's are listed for 150.00 and up.


... Keep Clinton warm this winter he hates the draft.
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From: jfedorko@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Joel Fedorko)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Wanted - Maltese Cross and Star of Life for MAC
Date: 24 Jan 93 01:21:04 GMT
Organization: Day Data Systems
Originator: jfedorko@troon.ncsa.uiuc.edu


 I'm currently using a b&w mac so I can't use my gif converter.. 
Is there a ftpsite or BBS with a Maltese Cross and/or Star of life
that's in a format I can use in MacDraw (preferably pict)?

Thanks -Joel

-- 
Joel Fedorko                          Remember Bit Hopper, 
Sr. Consultant                 You must become one with the machine.
Day Data 
jfedorko@ncsa.uiuc.edu        Any opinions I express will be ignored.
From: Ed.Gleason@f102.n151.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Gleason)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: TIME TILL MUTUAL AID
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 08:23:00 -0800

EJ> Yikes!  The volunteer EMS squads in my township have seven minutes
to respo
  > before the dipatcher puts out a second request.  After a total of 10
minute
  > mutual aid is dispatched.  And it does happen sometimes, especially
during 
  > days.

EJ> I'm curious what standards other towns set.  Anyone?

Hi there,

I am a Fire/EMS dispatcher with Brevard County Public Safety, Brevard
County
Fl.  Our time out policy is that the primary unit is paged, if no
response in
3 minutes then the station is called by telephone.  If no answer, yeah
it has
happend, then they are paged a second time and a secondary unit is
dispatched.
The second unit will continue until a determination of the closest unit
and
that the closest unit is in fact responding.


 -- SPEED 1.20 [NR]: Got to keep the loonies on the path!!

 * Origin: TechTalk BBS, Titusville,FL (1:374/1)

 * Origin: Micro Message Service NCRTP (919)779-6674 TBBS 2.2M
(1:151/102)

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:03:44 -0500 
From: Scott Cheng-Hsien Chiang <medic+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Frequencies
	<TRSNYDER.93Jan27150958@vf0031.mcs.drexel.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.misc.emerg-services: 27-Jan-93 Re: Frequencies Bob
Snyder@mcs.drexel.ed (945)

> Note that it is generally illegal to have a scanner in your vehicle that
> can receive police/public service frequencies

Hummmmmmmmm

This came from an attorny (who is a volunteer amb member), the law
applies to  a scanner MOUNTED in the vehicle (perm. attachment).  You
can get away with a portable scanner.  However, I agree with Bob that
the law does vary from state to state.  I know in some areas you have to
have a permit from the local police department.  i.e. New York City.

               /   /     Scott C. Chiang
              /   /      medic+@cmu.edu     sc4e+@andrew.cmu.edu
             /   /
            /   /        NY AEMT, PA EMT-Mast, AHA Instructor
    \   \  /   /         Jamaica Estates Volunteer Ambulance Corp.
     \   \/   /          New York City Emergency Medical Service -- 94 Henry
      \  /\  /           Carnegie Mellon University Emergency Medical Service
       \/  \/            "I save lives, what do you do?"
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: no docs for NYC EMS
Date: 23 Jan 1993 14:09:08 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <Pine.3.05.9301222117.A18490-c100000@sun.panix.com> dannyb@PANIX.COM (Daniel Burstein) writes:
>Richard Gutwirth: Many people will end up going to the hospital that don't
>need to go to the hospital, because the ultimate authority not to take
>them rests here in telemetry.  So what will happen is that we'll be
>transporting someone who does not need (to go to the hosital, and while
>we're doing this) a cardiac arrest will occur, and (we won't be there to
>help).

Huh? How is it possible in New York for a paramedic to take someone to the
hospital that doesn't want to go? Do they have the authority to arrest the
patient, or do they simply have immunity from kidnapping laws?

-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
    "I don't want to read poor Microsoft bashing. I want to read good
Microsoft bashing." -- Douglas A. Bell, in comp.os.os2.advocacy (Me too!)
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:31:44 EST
From:         Howard Berkis - CC28 <CC28@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: no docs for NYC EMS

If, in the opinion of the ems team (emt or emt-p), the online
medical control physician, and the responding ems supervisor the
patient is incapable of caring for him/herself, and their is no one
else available to provide competent such care, the decision is made
btw ems and PD (not at the field level) to take the pateint into
protective custidity of the city - in which case ems will x-port

For more info...send to me directly I will give you the actual
procedure as per the NYC EMS operationg guide.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Howard Berkis, EMT, AHA BCLS Instructor
Spring Hill VAC
PO Box 6
Spring Valley, NY 10977
CC28@Iona on BitNet...Internet Coming Soon (...or so they say)
PS  You can't spell MESs withous EMS
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Terry.Bell@f15.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Terry Bell)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Winter fire school
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:00:11 -0800

CS|O|  I hope you can attend, MO does trining right.  They have class
acts
CS|O|for teachers and a very good mix of classes to take.  The
CS|O|problem I had was finding motels.  Although not my most
CS|O|favorite I did find a room at the Day Inn.  Send me mail if you
CS|O|get to go, maybe you and Stome and I can get together and
CS|O|talkabout the echo.

Myself and two of our Captains have sent in applications. I am
looking forward to seeing you again.


Terry
 * OLX 2.1 TD * Alex G Bell had his hangups too!
PCRelay:CAROLINA -> #480 RaceNet (tm)
 * Origin: Canada Remote Systems, Mississauga, Ontario  (1:229/15)
From: Chuck.Sanders@f16.n128.z1.fidonet.org (Chuck Sanders)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Shift Scheduler Lives
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:15:52 -0800

   Why not sent the file to John Bixler at 270/911 so that he can send
it out over the F-I-R-E, the fild distribution networkattached to thos
echo.  If you wish to join or need more info please send the message to
Joh at 270/911.

 * Origin: FireNet Leader BBS  (719) 591-7415 (1:128/16)
From: Ed.Gleason@f1.n374.z1.fidonet.org (Ed Gleason)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: PSA CRASH TAPE
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:26:25 -0800

 -=> Quoting Joe Nicholson to Blake Bowers <=-

 BB>  JN> Will you trade 2 for the SDFD's comm center tape of BB> JN>
 JN> suppression/rescue activities following the PSA mid-air collision?
BB>
 JN> Send us a adress to send them to.  In about 1 week we will send
BB>
 JN> them out, then you can return mail your tape!

 JN> The General Alarm BBS
 JN> 13650 Proctor Valley Road
 JN> Jamul, CA 91935

What are you asking for in exchange for the above tape?  I would be
interested
in having a copy.

Thanks,

Ed


... Brevard County Public Safety, Emergency Operations Center - Florida
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

 * Origin: TechTalk BBS, Titusville,FL (1:374/1)
From: scoggin@delmarva.com (John K Scoggin Jr)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re:      Frequencies
Date: 27 Jan 1993 12:49:38 GMT
Organization: Delmarva Power & Light Company
Distribution: world
Reply-To: scoggin@delmarva.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: mercury.delmarva.com

In article 01GTZM8EFU02000SXN@EKU.BITNET,         "Madison County Fire Dept. You Light 'Em We Fight 'Em!" () writes:
> Hello All.
>   I'm looking for some information on Radio Frequencies for Fire, EMS, and
> Police Departments in certain areas. I'm going to be traveling from Richmond
> Kentucky to Greenport Long Island, New York. I was looking for some frequencies
> for Washington DC, Baltimore MD, Wilmington DE, Chaleston WV, Huntington WV,
> abd some others that you all might think of. I'm also looking for State Police
> Frequencies for WV, VA, MD, DE, NJ (and NJ Turnpike), and New York. If anyone
> can help me out I'd greatly appreciate it. Please mail me directly to
> 
>  STUECRWN@EKU.Bitnet           Thanks in advance!
> 
> *******************************************************************************
> !    Bob Corwin                         | Eastern Kentucky University         !
> !    Greenport Fire Department #410     | Fire And Safety Engineering         !
> !    Madison County Fire Dept. #219     | Association of Fire & Safety Techs. !
> !    Madison County Rescue Squad #764   | Stuecrwn@EKU.Bitnet                 !
> !            "Too Risky To Do Drunk, Too Precious To Be Drugged!"             !
> *******************************************************************************

Frequencies for all police (fire, EMS, etc.) in Delaware may be scarfed in either
ASCII or Word for Windows format from ftp.delmarva.com in directory pub/radio.

	- John

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From: Todd.Hockert@f6.n288.z1.fidonet.org (Todd Hockert)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: SHIFT SCHEDULER LIVES!!!!
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:33:56 -0800

What if I send a diskette and mailer pre-postage on it for a copy?
 
 
 * Origin: FlatLand bbs Fargo ND, DS-HST(701)-239-6048  (1:288/6)
From: Blake.Bowers@f33.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Personal Messages
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:08:01 -0800

 -=> Quoting Joe Nicholson to Blake Bowers <=-

 BB>    We Have for trade, METROPOLITION NASHVILLE DAVIDSON COUNTY
 BB> FIRE AND RESCUE EMERGENCY FIRST RESPONDER patches for trade.

 JN> Will you trade 2 for the SDFD's comm center tape of
suppression/rescue
 JN> activities following the PSA mid-air collision?
Send us a adress to send them to.  In about 1 week we will send them
out,
then you can return mail your tape!
Have fun!



... "We preserve our freedom using three boxes: ballot, jury, and
cartridg
 * Origin: Default Origin Line (1:116/33.0)
From: Blake.Bowers@f33.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: For Sale: Motorola VHF Mobile
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:28:02 -0800

 -=> Quoting David Stark to All <=-

 >  MOJ> Motorola Radius M-100 VHF mobile radio:
 >  MOJ>         140MHz - 160MHz capability

 DS> I have seen two almost unbelievably ignorant responses to the
 DS> above posting.  One asked if the radio could work on 33.90 MHz and
the
 DS> other wanted to know about a frequency in the 154 MHz range. 
Can't
 DS> these people count?  140-160 means all the numbers BETWEEN 140 and
160.
But, can I use it to recieve Cellular?  (sorry, I just had to.  The 
message was calling my name...   Snicker)


... What's all this fuss about endangered feces?
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From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Wanted - Maltese Cross and Star of Life
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:59:00 -0800

On <24 Jan, 01:21>, Joel Fedorko wrote to All :

JF> From: jfedorko@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Joel Fedorko)
JF>
JF>
JF>  I'm currently using a b&w mac so I can't use my gif converter..
JF> Is there a ftpsite or BBS with a Maltese Cross and/or Star of life
JF> that's in a format I can use in MacDraw (preferably pict)?
JF>
JF> Thanks -Joel
JF>
JF> --
JF> Joel Fedorko                          Remember Bit Hopper,
JF> Sr. Consultant                 You must become one with the
machine.
JF> Day Data
JF> jfedorko@ncsa.uiuc.edu        Any opinions I express will be
ignored.
Hi Joel:
I have a ansi picture of The Star of Life ,that you can FREQ here at
1:321/233.  Or the Board number is 1(413)448-6292 2400/1200/300..
Your better off to FREQ Whistle.arj,this will give you,the full
listing.
Of the files I have here also..

L8tr

Paul..  
 
 * Origin: Whistle Stop BBS {Berkshire County Fire Board} (1:321/233.0)
From: George.Vaisey@p5.f333.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (George Vaisey)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Friend...
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 11:23:01 -0800

I am looking for a friend of mine.  As far as I know he still works for
OR did work for the Alameda Naval Air Station in California.  We talked
via PRODIGY for a while and I have lost his address if ANY one knows him
or knows how to get a hold of him tell him I would like to talk to him..
 THANK IN ADVANCE.


            George Vaisey
(716) 227-4650
30 Fourth Avenue
Rochester, NY
14612

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From: Blake.Bowers@f5000.n410.z65.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Private Amb. Services Vs. 911
Date: Mon, 18 Jan 1993 23:10:01 -0800

 -=> Quoting Bobbie Ervin to All <=-

 BE> I work for a private service that responded to calls from the
county
 BE> "volunteers" can make good money at a part time job (The EMS
director
 BE> is paid $11,000 + per year for 24 hrs. per wk on top of a full time
job
I would not do it for that.  24 hours a wk would run 16.000.00 a year,
minimum.

Sounds like sour grapes, and jealousy.  Let me guess, they won't give
you
a job will they.  

... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear!
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From: John.Linko@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (John Linko)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Motorola MX-350
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:53:37 -0800

I have worked for two departments that have used the MX-350. While they

have proven to be durable and reliable, there are some things to be 
concerned about in this age of newer technology and flexibility:

1. If you need to put new frequencies in the radios, watch out. If the

radios are crystal or TCXO controlled, the prices of new crystals run 40

to 50 dollars each. Same for PL reeds if you need new PL's. If the 
radios are synthesized, the software needed to burn the EEPROM memory 
into the radio is scarce, at least in the Pittsburgh area. Also, with 
the synthesized units the PL codes must be arranged in a certain order 
(in multi-channel units), which may not conincide with the most workable

order you would like.

Sounds like a lot of gloom and doom, I know. But if you can use the 
radios without having to reprogram them or change the frequencies, they

should prove to work well. With today's technology, I would say a 
sensible price for a multi-channel MX350 in good shape would be $300 to

$500. If they need reprogrammed (or re-crystalled, especially), expect 
to pay that much in parts and labor. 

Good luck. JL'


 * Origin: SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA (1:129/26.0)