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From: gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: BOM off the air
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:51:51 GMT
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young, Melbourne, Australia

daemon> Bureau of Meteorology (melb) is off.   we're investigating

Storm damage?
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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet,aus.general
From: steve@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Balogh (+61 3 565 4747))
Subject: Proposed upgrade to AARNET
Followup-To: aus.general
Organization: Monash University, Melbourne, AUSTRALIA
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:18:51 GMT

There is an article in the Melbourne Age (Wed, 19th Aug. p40) titled "Hardship
ahead for researchers" which contains the following paragraph:

  "Among significant initiatives anounced in the white paper is a $13.7 million
   upgrade of AARNET, the Australian research data network, via the creation of
   a Research Data Network Cooperative Research Centre."

It is nice that lots of extra money is coming our way from the budget, but does
anyone know what function the RDNCRC performs?

( And why do they have the word "Research" in their name twice? :-)

Regards,
         Steve

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From: steve@cs.uow.edu.au (Stephen Cliffe)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Policy/Practices on providing modems ?
Keywords: modem policy practice unviversity
Date: 31 Aug 92 03:26:05 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

gtricker@socs.uts.edu.au (Glenn Rickersey) writes:

>I'm interested in finding out policies/practices from
>other universities around australia on the provision of
>remote access to university computing systems via modems.

>UTS provides 6 modems for half-duplex access at a blazing
>300bps with a small number of other modems around the place
>with very restricted access.


Wollongong currently has 12 x 2400 baud modems and 2 x 9600 baud
modems for student use and 4 x 9600 baud modems for staff use.

Here in the Computer Science department, students have to have their
account "enabled" to allow them to use the dialup facilities.

Steve.
From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Is there an AUSTRALIAN email gateway into ....z3.fidonet.org
Date: 23 Aug 92 02:39:17 GMT

In a msg on <Aug 06 02:55>, James Doohan (c11420@tanus.oz.au ) writes:

 JD> I have been sending to a number of people via ...z3.fidonet.org 
 JD> of late and have had responses to my messages within a couple 
 JD> of days (which is good for fidonet!). So the gateway seems to 
 JD> be working o.k.

I read recently that _all_ of .z3.fidonet.org is now MX'd to csource.oz.au
(csource.cec.edu.au), not just region 50 (n632, n633, n634, n635, n636, n670,
n680 and n861). This should mean quicker delivery times for Internet users
sending mail to Australian fido folks. not before time, either! :-)
From: jimbo@mhs.oz.au (James Davidson)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Mail to compuserv
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:20:25 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Message Handling Systems


I think this is a FAQ, but here goes.

I would like to know how to mail to users on Compuserv.

I seem to remember that it is possible, but I can't remember
exactly how it is done.

Thanks,

James.

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From: 11477881@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (SEONG HO)
Subject: Re: Library/Waikato
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:49:59 GMT

In article <Bs2GJH.AG@comp.vuw.ac.nz> andy.linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton) writes:
>From: andy.linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton)
>Subject: Re: Library/Waikato
>Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:18:51 GMT
>
>In article <Brz8H9.Jw2@alsvid.une.edu.au>, rdebrece@alsvid.une.edu.au (Roger Debreceny) writes:
>|> From article <1992Jul24.030733.22061@ucc.su.OZ.AU>, by hughg@brutus.ee.su.oz.au (Hugh Garsden):
>|> > I'd like to know if I can get onto the library at the University
>|> > of Waikato, NZ. Can't find anything in the AARNet guides.
>|> > 
>|> sorry ... to my knowledge only VUW (Victoria Uni of Wellington) is
>|> available on the Internet
>
>
>host			username	logout 		comments
>
>These seem to work fine:
>
>waikato.ac.nz 		OPAC 		^Z log 		VAX
>ccvcom.aukuni.ac.nz	AUCAT		PF3		IBM via VAX gateway
>ono.lincoln.ac.nz	OPAC then pub	menu option	DYNIX on Ultrix via VAX
>cantva.canterbury.ac.nz OPAC		QUIT option	VAX gateway
>
>
>This gets you to the front door but no further:
>
>elrond.otago.ac.nz	libcat		^]		DYNIX on Ultrix
>
>
>I've no info for Massey.
From: G.Huston@aarnet.edu.au (Geoff Huston)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Proposal: OSI Addressing on AARnet
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:32:43 GMT

Mark Prior writes...

> This is my proposal for running ISO protocols over AARNet. At present
> I have a number of DECstations running DECnet/OSI using this scheme
> and it seems to work OK.
> 
> Comments welcome.

Mark, just a few open comments in response...


1. What is the level of demand for this switching capability within AARNet?

   
2. NSAP AFI allocation

   I note the Internet Society is eligible for an AFI allocation
   (at _no_ charge) and evidently intends to obtain an AFI for Internet
   use. What are the arguments in favour and against using a number space
   from a nationally allocated AFI vs an Internet AFI


3. NSAP address schema

   I see frantic activity within various strands of the IETF to devise
   a workable implementation of CLNP (or a derivative) which can
   provide possible answers to the IP V4 problems that are emerging.

   Is any national NSAP addressing strategy premature given the ernest
   desire of the IETF groups to devise an Internet-wide NSAP numbering
   strategy?

   My question is not whether a geographic fixed length numbering
   scheme is better ort worse than other possible Australian schemes -
   it it whether a short delay may be better in order to evaluate the
   output of the "IP V7" groups which are looking at NSAP allocation
   schema across the entire Internet.


Unlike ESnet or the NSFnet there is no funding or government mandated
requirement to support OSI protocols within the production platform of
the Australian national network. The criteria for such support are
therefore more pragmatic considerations of:

	level of demand

	cost of provising the service

	risks to overall reliability of service

	compatibility with related efforts

Of all of these I would indicate that level of demand is perhaps the
single deciding factor - which brings me back to comment 1:...

   1. What is the level of demand for this switching capability within AARNet?

(These are not "hostile" comments by any means - indeed setting up a
switching capability for CLNP could be a lot of fun. But the aim and
objective of the network is not to amuse Geoff and Pete - ultimately
there has to be reasonable levels of justification for such activities,
and it is only through this form of exchange that we can establish
whether there is a real need for such a switching service on the
network)


thanks,

Geoff
From: mrp@itd.adelaide.edu.au (Mark Prior)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Proposal: OSI Addressing on AARnet
Date: 28 Aug 92 06:43:12 GMT


     Mark Prior writes...

     > This is my proposal for running ISO protocols over AARNet. At present
     > I have a number of DECstations running DECnet/OSI using this scheme
     > and it seems to work OK.
     >
     > Comments welcome.

     Mark, just a few open comments in response...


     1. What is the level of demand for this switching capability within AARNet?

I have no real feel for this. I expect sites that still run DECnet
will want to transition to DECnet/OSI and would like to use an
officially allocated NSAP rather than the local 49:: prefix. Having
renumbered IP a couple of times I want to avoid renumbering DECnet a
couple of times :-)

     2. NSAP AFI allocation

        I note the Internet Society is eligible for an AFI allocation
        (at _no_ charge) and evidently intends to obtain an AFI for Internet
        use. What are the arguments in favour and against using a number space
        from a nationally allocated AFI vs an Internet AFI

I expect there are two basic issues
        1. cost
        2. routing

The ISOC method is cheaper than SAA but using the SAA defined NSAP
could give us a simpler routing interface with the rest of the world.

     3. NSAP address schema

        I see frantic activity within various strands of the IETF to devise
        a workable implementation of CLNP (or a derivative) which can
        provide possible answers to the IP V4 problems that are emerging.

        Is any national NSAP addressing strategy premature given the ernest
        desire of the IETF groups to devise an Internet-wide NSAP numbering
        strategy?

The question here is whether we can wait that long, and will the IETF
solution to IP give us anything useful for OSI?

As far as I am concerned, I can't wait that long. I want to start
using these suckers, and transition my DECNet Phase IV nodes to
DECnet/OSI now.

I also don't feel that the IETF's solution to the IP address
exhaustion problem will provide anything useful to an OSI backbone.

     Of all of these I would indicate that level of demand is perhaps the
     single deciding factor - which brings me back to comment 1:...

        1. What is the level of demand for this switching capability within AARNet?

     (These are not "hostile" comments by any means - indeed setting up a
     switching capability for CLNP could be a lot of fun. But the aim and
     objective of the network is not to amuse Geoff and Pete - ultimately
     there has to be reasonable levels of justification for such activities,
     and it is only through this form of exchange that we can establish
     whether there is a real need for such a switching service on the
     network)

Well as I said I don't know what demand exists at other sites but I
have reasons for wanting it now, hence my interest in doing something
now.

Mark.
From: chris@suite.sw.oz.au (Chris Maltby)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Re: Few Surprises in Science White Paper
Date: 19 Aug 92 23:16:54 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd

So, what is the plan for the suprise $13M? A new link to somewhere
OS? A faster link to OS? Upgrades of the existing links/routers?
An advertising campaign? More public servants? Or has the $13M
already been announced and earmarked, and they're just announcing
it again for good measure.

Enquiring minds want to know...

PS Does my list of priorities concur with yours?

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Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: jdb@arp.anu.edu.au (John D. Barlow)
Subject: Re: Policy/Practices on providing modems ?
Keywords: modem policy practice unviversity
Organization: Parallel Computing Research Facility, ANU.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 06:52:21 GMT

|> gtricker@socs.uts.edu.au (Glenn Rickersey) writes:
|> 
|> >I'm interested in finding out policies/practices from
|> >other universities around australia on the provision of
|> >remote access to university computing systems via modems.

At ANU we have about 30 2400 baud modems and 2 9600 baud modems.
There is a plan to upgrade the 30 modems to 9600.  They all go into
a terminal server, and restrictions are placed on the terminal
server (like connecting only to local hosts).

-- 
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University, I-Block, PO Box 4, Canberra, 2601, Australia.
email = John.Barlow@anu.edu.au
[International = +61 6, Australia = 06] [Phone = 2492930, Fax = 2490747]
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
From: gtricker@socs.uts.edu.au (Glenn Rickersey)
Subject: Policy/Practices on providing modems ?
Summary: What is your policy on providing modems?
Keywords: modem policy practice unviversity
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:47:27 GMT


Hello,

I'm interested in finding out policies/practices from
other universities around australia on the provision of
remote access to university computing systems via modems.

UTS provides 6 modems for half-duplex access at a blazing
300bps with a small number of other modems around the place
with very restricted access.

Thanks.

later,,
  glenn.

---
Glenn Rickersey
From: acjbooks@citr.uq.oz.au (ACJ Books (Chris))
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: new newsgroup query (mechanics)
Summary: How (mechanically) to create a new nsgroup question
Keywords: books reviews newsgroup create new
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:45:02 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland

I have advertised the need and asked for comments on the creation of a new
newsgroup aus.acs.books for distributing reviews and distributing books for
review under the auspices of the Australian Computer Journal, and ACS.

Having not got ant objections, indeed encouragement, can anyone let me
know the exact mechanics of how to set up the new aus.acs.books as a
new newsgroup (moderated by me)?

Thanks.
Newsgroups: su.general,su.net,aus.aarnet,aus.netstatus
From: nickyc@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Nick Comanos)
Subject: Extro.ucc.su.oz.au
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:13:13 GMT

Extro's operating system was upgraded on the weekend to 4.1.2
we are still experiencing some problems.

Hopefully they will all be fixed today.

Ross Cartlidge
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From: miw@cc.uq.oz.au (Mark I. Williams)
Subject: Re: Proposal: OSI Addressing on AARnet
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:01:18 GMT

Chris.Rusbridge@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:

>Hmmm. If the IPV7 shenanigans mean that IP moves to an NSAP format, 
>and we had adopted Mark's suggestion, we would end up with two NSAPs 
>per host, in different formats. That seems undesirable. If it could be 
>avoided with a short delay, I suggest that only the most pressing of 
>needs should get in its way.

Except that it is most likely that we will need two NSAPS per host
anyway, because if you try to talk to a CLNP NSAP with IP V7 or vice
versa, then you'll have no end of trouble. 

In fact, if the IETF are going to go dropping what most probably be
CLNP-incompatible protocols into their address space, shouldn't we be
avoiding those addresses like the plague?

Personally, I don't see any trouble with having multiple NSAPS per host.
It has been a necessary evil for so long that it doesn't cause any
problems any more.

cheers,


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From: u906583@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Paul Roberts)
Subject: Address of AUUG in Tasmania ???
Keywords: auug,address
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:58:31 GMT

Does anyone know the address of the Tasmanian branch of the Australias Unix
Users Group ??

Paul.
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From: jdb@arp.anu.edu.au (John D. Barlow)
Subject: Re: Public acces to usenet in Canberra
Organization: Parallel Computing Research Facility, ANU.
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 00:39:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.022325.323@bacchus.esa.oz.au>, hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter]) writes:
|> In <pjw.713975350@lobo> pjw@lobo.canberra.edu.au (Peter Wishart) writes:
|> >The Canberra Chapter of AUUG (aka COSUG) is setting up a dial in
|> >service for AUUG members in Canberra.  It will provide access to USENET
|> >et al for AUUG Canberra members.
|> I was just wondering if any other AUUG Chapters in other states 
|> had plans to set up a similar service.

I suggest other states should seriously think about it.  It isn't that
difficult.  The hardware can be donated by vendors (yes, they are keen
to support such initiatives).  The _real_ problem is the people-power
to keep the machine running.  When you have a local UNIX group you need
to call on your members to devote time and effort to the machine on
an ongoing basis.  Once you have that, it is easy ;-)

Anybody from other states that wants to set up this kind of service,
I am willing to lend an ear to questions.  Note that keeping the
service cheap is essential.  Anybody who wants a guaranteed
commercial service can pay for it (and there are such services around).

-- 
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University, I-Block, PO Box 4, Canberra, 2601, Australia.
email = John.Barlow@anu.edu.au
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From: u734120@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (John Lamp)
Subject: Re: Mail to compuserv
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:54:31 GMT

jimbo@mhs.oz.au (James Davidson) writes:


>I think this is a FAQ, but here goes.

>I would like to know how to mail to users on Compuserv.

As follows:

eg the Clinton/Gore campign is 75300.3115@COMPUSERVE.COM

(Note capitals!!)
Cheers
John
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From: Mark.Purcell@pos.pub.uu.oz.au (Mark Purcell)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet,aus.acsnet
Subject: Re: SLIP connect in Tasmania ???
Keywords: slip,tasmania
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:13:7 GMT
Organization: PrivateUUCPnode

u906583@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Paul Roberts @ University of Tasmania, Australia.) once wrote....
>Does anyone know if the are any dialin slip lines in Tasmania ??
>
If what you are after is public access dialin slip lines I don't think there
are any in Australia :-).

Mark

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From: mark@alsvid.une.edu.au (Mark Andrew Garrett)
Newsgroups: aus.aarnet
Subject: Munnari sendmail ??
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:50:04 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

Has munnari.oz.au gone crazy or has some other host developed a fixation
for munnari's name in it's address rewriting ?

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Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: c9225366@cc.newcastle.edu.au (SHANE JOHNS)
Subject: Gary Freeman
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:58:36 GMT

Well the Roosters season is over (Thanks to that idiot ref at the Newcastle v
Canberra game who gave canberra no chance of winning after sending off 
Osbourne), but i'm looking forward to the end of season awards nights.

I'm inviting controversy by saying this, but... Gary Freeman should scoop
the pool at most of them, primarily the Rothman's medal.

Fair dinkum, if he doesn't pick up at least one award, especially the Rothman's
the awards will lose a fair deal of credibility.

cheers,
        Shane
Newsgroups: aus.sport
From: dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Darren Lyon)
Subject: Re: Tips (Was Re: How we can improve NSWRL Reffing)
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 00:00:35 GMT

ednclark@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Jeffrey Clark) writes:

>dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer) writes:

>>c9117709@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (THE SKY IS FALLING......NO I'M TIPPING OVER BACKWARDS) writes:


>>>Round 1	St George v Illawarra  -  St.George

>>	Illawarra

>>>		Newcastle v Wests      -  Newcastle (changed my mind)

>>	Newcastle


>>>Round 2        Brisbane  v St George  -  St.George

>>		Brisbane v Illawarra

>>	Brisbane

>>>		Newcastle v Illawarra  -  Newcastle

>>		Newcastle v St George

>>	St George

>>>Round 3	Newcastle v Brisbane   -  Newcastle (Virtually home crowd adv)

>>		Illawarra v St George

>>	St George (although I'd like to see Illawarra v Brisbane final)

>>>Grand Final	St.Goerge v Newcastle  -  St.George  (Not in my heart but on
>>>							gut feeling)

>>		Brisbane v St George

>>	St George (possible draw... extra time win)

>>Best final five I've seen in many years, very interesting and diverse.

>Sorry dudes, you are all overestimating St.George, the only team they might
>be able to beat in the five is Wests.

>Here's my tips
> Round 1:        St.George v Illawarra  --> Illawarra by 10.
>		 Newcastle v Wests      --> Newcastle by 4.

> Round 2:        Brisbane v Illawarra   --> Brisbane by 6.
>		 St.George v Newcastle  --> Newcastle by 6 (barring
>		                                            Newcastle injuries)
> Round 3:        Illawarra v Newcastle  --> Ummmm Illawarra by 1 (see above)

> Round 4:        Brisbane v Illawarra   --> Cakewalk to Brisbane.


Due realise what arguements can arise by quoting 'Brisbane' and any word
refering to an easy victory. I hope your predictions are right. I know one
thing, I wouldn't mind going up to the leagues club to celebrate. I know
"Mr Newcastle" wont like this but I have a gut feeling that Brisbane are
going to do something in the finals. In the lead up to the finals they
have not been playing to their potential. This makes me think that they
might want the other teams to think that the pressure will get to them.

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		* Stuff putting a quote here, I couldn't   *
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