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From: higham@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ramones
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:18:52 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug26.084805.19209@news.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE>, k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Matt Marchese) writes:
> In article <1992Aug25.195412.14826@u.washington.edu> dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) writes:
>>
>>Here's a new thread.  What's your favorite Ramones record.
>>
> Not to denigrate the later stuff. "Leave Home" is almost as top-notch as
> the first album. "Rocket to Ruin" is probably their most humorous (and
This should be Rocket to Russia, or ROad to Ruin :^)

My favourites would have to be Rocket to Russia, Ramones and LEave Home, the
first 3. I also really liked Pleasant Dreams, but it was pretty well panned by
the press. It did have "The KKK took my baby away", of course, IMHO one of the
top 3 Ramones songs ever written. My rabid interest in the band has sorta
tailed off in the past few years, but I'm still the proud owner of all their
albums, most of their singles and my pride and joy, a ltd edition (1200) of
Sheena is Punk Rocker (12") UK release. I saw the Ramones when I was in England
in 1985 and I couldn't believe how much faster they were than on Its ALive!
They just went crazy for 50 minutes and played about 40 songs on after the
other. Awesome band. Just total cool, rock n roll stripped down to the bare
bones.
-- 
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Hamilton,		        end of a rope, without music.'"  
NEW ZEALAND.		                   Sailor Ripley, "wild at heart".
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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Matt Marchese)
Subject: Re: Ramones
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 08:48:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.195412.14826@u.washington.edu> dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) writes:
>
>Here's a new thread.  What's your favorite Ramones record.
>
The first one, of course. It changed my life and my musical direction 
completely back in '76. I joined a band that did a lot of Ramone covers
and we reached the pinnacle of our musical careers on "New Wave Night"
at the Whiskey a Go-Go. Prior to this i'd been a LedZep/Queen stoner.
Our high school pep band even played Blitzkrieg Bop during basketball
games. Quite entertaining to see all the school cheerleaders jumping up
and down yelling, "Ay Oh, Let's Go!" This album has so many classic tunes
on it: 

	Judy is a Punk
	Now I Wanna Sniff Some Glue
	Blitzkrieg Bop
	Etc....

Not to denigrate the later stuff. "Leave Home" is almost as top-notch as
the first album. "Rocket to Ruin" is probably their most humorous (and
catchy). The only album I consider to be a real dog IMO, is "End of the
Century"

I saw these guys about 7 times when they first hit the West Coast. They
used to tour alot with Blondie. Blondie used to be every bit as entertaining
as the Ramones in their own way. They only lost it after their original 
bassist quit the band. Too bad that happened shortly after their first
album :)...

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From: schansen@amc.com (Scott Hansen)
Subject: Ramones
Organization: Applied Microsystems, Redmond, WA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:36:08 GMT


I heard a rumor awhile back that the Ramones were touring on their
new album with Social D and that they would be in Seattle towards
late September.  Does anyone have any information about possible
dates???

-Scott
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From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: They Might Be Giants
Date: 3 Sep 1992 20:38:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
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In a previous article, mbrockma@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt Brockman) says:

>Sorry if this is the wrong type of music, but anyway...
>
>I just want to say that TMBG's Apollo 18 album is great!
>
>Are their other albums just as good?
>
>BTW, what is that Musical Ambassadors to ISY all about?
>Where'd they get that title from?

All their albums are GREAT.  However, you will notice that since they've
started, the average time for each song on their albums has progressivly
been getting longer.  However, that doesn't make it bad.  Plus, seeing
them live with a real band is better than you could dream about!

I think they met someone from Nasa, somewhere, and they asked them if
they could be the official band for ISY, and the guy said, "Sure, what
the hell."
>
>
>
>
>===============================================================================
>Matt Brockman                                           mbrockma@ecn.purdue.edu
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>              "Achievement is its own reward; pride obscures it." 
>            "Never drink coffee that has been anywhere near a fish." 
>===============================================================================
>

-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
University of Michigan Class of 1996
"I would like to thank the vice president, ...the television academy,
and the members of the cultural elite." - Candice Bergen
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From: gish@NCoast.ORG (Tyson Chihaya)
Subject: Re: New Dinosaur Jr album?
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:27:25 GMT

ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:
: 
: The newest Dinosaur Jr. album I have is Green Mind.  However, I saw
: another tape in the "alternative" section of a local record store that
: had the Warner BRos (I think) emblem.  I assumed the Green Mind was the
: first release on Warner, but I just saw another release on Warner.  So,
: is this new?  Was Green Mind their 2nd release on Warner?
: 
: I think the title was something like, "Whatever's cool with me", which
: reminded me of a line in one of their songs (rather, the title of their
: song?).  However, I didn't think this was an EP becausae it was marked
: "$8.00"

Whatever's Cool With Me IS an EP...it's got..er..I can't remember
how many songs on it, offhand. Some live cuts, a couple of
previously unreleased songs.

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From: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Nirvana+Screaming Trees = Lithium, the group
Date: 1 Sep 1992 23:58:01 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin)
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Does anyone have any information about a group called "Lithium."  From
what I hear, it was composed of members of the Screaming Trees and
Nirvana.  When was Lithium a group?  Why did it break up?  Did they put
anything out on any label?
-- 
Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
University of Michigan Class of 1996
"I would like to thank the vice president, ...the television academy,
and the members of the cultural elite." - Candice Bergen
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From: Damon.Lynch@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Damon Lynch)
Subject: Re: look blue go purple (flying nun band)
Originator: dlynch@rinascimento.comp.vuw.ac.nz
Organization: Victoria University, Auckland
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:27:15 GMT


In article <hrpsdj.35@pnv.dsir.govt.nz>, news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug27.192126.4279@Princeton.EDU> skmurphy@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Sean K. Murphy) writes:
|> 
|> >2. "Are there any other good NZ bands?"  YES!  The Clean, the Verlaines,
|> >The Great Unwashed, The Cake Kitchen, Chainsaw Masochist, Able Tasmans,
|> >The Puddle, Dead C, Peter Jefferies, Alastair Galbraith, David Mitchell
|> >- the list could go on for a while, but basically anything that has been
|> >released by either Flying Nun or Xpressway Records will be good.  One
|> >possible exception is the Headless Chickens (N.Z. industrial/sounding
|> >stuff), but virtually anything else is good.  maybe I'm a little biased,
|> >but I have not been disappointed yet by any of the stuff I've heard.
|> >Listen and enjoy.
|> 
|> And just what the hell is wrong with the Headless Chickens!
|> I'm sick to death of all you overseas types liking dull, jangly guitar based 
|> pap from Dunedin New Zealand. 
|> 
|> I live there I have to listen to this drony, whiney(sp?) stilted crap any 
|> time I go to a party.
|> 
|> Try the Headless Chickens, Bailter Space (shortly touring Europe and the 
|> States), The Gordons, The Skeptics, Smut and even Lung. Hopefully you will 
|> all then go out and burn the New Zealand music that makes me 1) sick and 2) 
|> ashamed to live in this country i.e. the Chills, the bats, straight jaket 
|> fits etc etc.
|> 
|>  

Why should anyone take any notice of some narrow minded idiot who spells
Straitjacket Fits as straight jaket fits?  Whoever they are, whether they like it
or not, NZ's musical reputation is built upon such bands.  Whats more, if they can
trust the English / American / Australian press, they will find that the above
bands are looked up to with a hell of a lot of respect.  Need examples?  Here are
some for just one of them, SJF,

England: "Straitjacket Fits are the weirdest guitar band in the world.  They're
also the best.", Melody Maker, Jan 4 1992

USA (The LA's / Straitjacket Fits, the Marquee, New York City): "Compared to the
Straitjackets' thundering `Hail'-storm, The La's are just so much la-de-dah."

Australia (Straitjacket Fits, My Bloody Valentine, Phoenician Club, November 17): 
"Straitjacket Fits acheived so much more, in so much less time, and didn't have to
travel half way around the world to do it."

Yes, yes, I realise someone somewhere could probably come up with some press that
slags them off, but hey, whether you like them or not, you would have to admit that
critics generally love 'em.

As do I.

A Straitjacket Fits fan, and happy to tell you about,

Damon
From: twiggs_te@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: Re: LOLLA MAY NOT BE PERFECT...
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:09:09 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

Mr. Joshua Houk:

		The problem with you is that you don't think it's OK to listen
to a band unless they don't sell any records.  Doesn't it occur to you that the 
reason bands sell records is because PEOPLE ENJOY LISTENING TO THEM?
	Admittedly, there DO EXIST very good bands who don't sell records
simply because they don't have the exposure they need and/or want.  And there 
DO EXIST corporate sell-out artists (Mariah Carey, Micheal Jackson, etc.).  But
simply because an artists sells a few records and goes on a big tour such as
Lollapalooza doesn't mean they've SOLD OUT.  Nirvana has still kept their
original mentality.  I really don't think they expected all the attention in
the first place!  (Just so you'll know, I'm NOT a Nirvana fan)
	To finish things off:  How the fuck would you know what Perry Farrell
thinks?  Are you his fucking best friend?  Unless you know what you're 
talking about, I strongly suggest you shut the fuck up.

					With brotherly concern,

						Todd E. Twiggs
						Station Manager
						WLRC 89.7 FM
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From: rob@skool.ssec.wisc.edu ( Rob Jacob)
Subject: Re: Pain Teens discog.?
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Space Science and Engineering Center, UW Madison
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:34:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.174920.26614@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders) writes:
|> 
|> I just picked up _Stimulation Festival_ and, though it has quite a bit
|> of filler, it also has some stuff which i really, really, REALLY love -
|> especially "Shallow Hole" and "Daughter of Chaos" as well as some of
|> the instrumentals-with-extended-samples, the names of which I can't
|> recall off hand.
|> 
|> Is _SF_ Pain Teens' only release, or do they have anything else?  

The other two releases I know of are:

"Case Histories" and
"Born in Blood"

I thought one of these was included on the SF CD.

Robert Jacob
rob@ssec.wisc.edu
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From: dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer)
Subject: RFI: For Electronic, Revenge, Other Two Discography
Summary: etc etc etc
Keywords: Info Wanted
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:30:22 GMT

Greetings

Myself and Rich Kernin are compiling a very comprehensive and detailed
New Order discography. This is almost complete.

We have decided to include the information for Electronic, Revenge, and
The Other Two as they are part and parcel of any New Order-esque
information set.

We have a certain amount of release information regarding these bands, but
would like as much as possible.

Could anybody with any product from these 3 NO offshoots, please mail me 
directly a list of these items, including track-listings (timing if 
possible), medium (7",12", CD, LP, CS, Video, DAT etc), Country & catalogue
number of release, release year (if possible).

All information is needed, but especially required are promo editions 
and any rare mixes etc.

many thanks in advance


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From: marco@itnsg1.cineca.it (Marco Olivotto)
Subject: New group: alt.fan.peter.hammill
Summary: Information to the musically-inclined...
Keywords: Info
Organization: Laboratorio di Fisica Computazionale, INFM. Trento Italia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:16:45 GMT


To whom this may concern:

	There is a new newsgroup, alt.fan.peter.hammill, devoted to discussion
of any aspect of this incredible musician's art. He's such a unique figure in
the scenario of contemporary music that I think he deserves a group for him-
self.
	The discussion is LOW now since the group is really a newborn one.
All those who are interested may jump in and ask whatever they want about
Peter's music and related topics (Van der Graaf Generator, etc.).

	Feel free to contact me at one of the following addresses:

	olivotto@itnvax.cineca.it
	marco@itnsg1.cineca.it

	Thanks!
	Marco Olivotto
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Smiths covers?
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 21:03:16 GMT
Organization: WeasElectro Productions: Television/Movies/Comics

Kirsty MacColl covers "You Just Haven't Earned It Yet, Baby" on the
soundtrack to _She's Having A Baby_ and (I think) her album _Kite._  I'm
kind of surprised that I haven't seen a Smiths "Tribute" album yet -- the
damn things are coming out so fast now that some stores give them their
own bins. 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: rollins books
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:36:39 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <la6shuINNb4l@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
driver8@night.Corp.Sun.COM (Albert Handa) writes:

> I've heard that Henry Rollins has books out, and noted the mention of the
> company.  Does anyone know how to contact or write that company?
> 
> Al

2.13.61
PO Box 1910
Los Angeles, California 90078 
USA

The catalog (flyer, actually) I have is weird in that it only lists
book titles, not the authors.  So I don't know if any of the books
listed are by Rollins or other people.  Here are the three Rollins
books I'm sure of.

$10  High Adventures in the Great Outdoors
$10  Bang!
$11  One from None

The first is a collection of three early books:  "2.13.61", "End to
End", "Polio Flesh."  The second is a collection of two: "1000 Ways to
Die" and "Knife Street."

Prices are post-paid within US.  +$1/item in Canada/Mexico, +$3/item
outside North America.

Warning!  2.13.61 can be VERY slow.  I waited about three months for a
Rollins spoken word tape. But they will get it to you.

 - nathan
Xref: sparky alt.music.alternative:9910 soc.culture.celtic:5733
From: crp@ukc.ac.uk (C.R.Purtill)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: In Tua Nua
Date: 2 Sep 92 10:27:55 GMT
Reply-To: crp@ukc.ac.uk (C.R.Purtill)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <1992Sep1.121808.28636@cc.uow.edu.au> jeremy@snrc.uow.edu.au writes:

>Has anyone got any info on the Irish band In Tua Nua? They put out two
>very good albums: _Vaudeville_ (1987) and _The Long Acre_ (1989), but
>don't seem to have done much lately. Have they split up?

Yes, quite a while ago.  Vaudeville and The Long Acre were their only
albums.  They're still around, I believe, some of them in a band called
The Great Divide or something like that and some in another band whose
name escapes me.


Cheers,

Cormac.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST)
Subject: Re: Anyone see Nick Cave recently?
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:23:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.221401.16541@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:

>hudson@csa2.lbl.gov (ERIC HUDSON) writes:

>>I was unable to catch the Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds show in San Francisco
>>this summer.  I wonder if anyone who saw a show on this tour could send me 
>>a setlist and/or comments?

>I'm not a big Nick Cave fan, but I travelled 700 miles to see him in SF
>anyway.  The show was great.  Some of the songs I remember were "The Ship
>Song", "The Weeping Song", and of course a terrific rendition of "Carny".
>Nick did "Carny" as a request and stated that they hadn't played it in five
>years.  He read the lyrics from a notebook.  There were also many songs from
>"Henry's Dream".  All in all, quite an incredible show, made a bigger fan out
>of me.
>-- 
>                         orb be in u, orb be out u

>DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
>Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown


I'm no Nick Cave-fanatic either, but I can remember him singing The Carny at 
the Roskilde Festival in 1990.
From: ken@claris.com (Ken Walter)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ramones
Date: 4 Sep 92 02:25:44 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation, Santa Clara CA

glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad) writes:

>dx@netcom.com (dx) writes:

>>Michael O'Sullivan...

>>> Basically the Ramones first tour of England in early 76 (Maybe Late 75)
>>> ignited it all. 

>>The Ramones UK debut was actually mid-76, July 4th to be exact.  They played
>>at the Roadhouse in London along with the Flamin' Groovies and the Stranglers.
>>(The Ramones were performing in the US almost two years earlier, though,
>>making their debut at CBGB's on August 16, 1974.)

>>Does anyone have a different chronology?

>Your chronology is correct, o venerable one of unknown distance.

>The story at the time was that the UK punk was sparked by photographs of
>and stories about the Bowery scene, but even that's probably overstated.

>Musically, the Dolls had a lot more influence on groups like the Pistols
>and the Clash than the Ramones ever did, and they were well-known in
>England when CBGB was still living up to its name.  As far as "style" 
>is concerned, McLaren has frankly admitted that the fashion and stance
>he introduced in London was lifted wholesale from Kentuckyan Lester Myers.

Didn't McLaren manage a late version of the Dolls right before he found
the Sex Pistols?

I think the early Stooges had a big influence as well (considering "No Fun"
is the only serious cover by the original Pistols).

Lester Myers is Richard Hell, of early Television, Richard Hell and
the Voidoids, and Dim Star fame.

Ken
From: gmkoenig@acsu.buffalo.edu (Gerson V Koenig)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Bare Naked Ladies?
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:51:12 GMT
Organization: UB

ddebry@itchy.dsd.es.com (David DeBry) writes:
>	(BTW: Do you have any cuts of "If I Had A Million Dollars"?
>Or has there been an album released?)

In addition to the five song demo tape which includes "Be My Yoko Ono" and 
"If I Had $1000000", there is now a 15 cut album called "Gordon" (Sire/Reprise
CD 26956) which has new versions of all the songs on the demo, except for
"Fight the Power". While the demo songs have been improved in parts, overall,
I prefer the demo versions.

I got my copy of the new albumin Toronto, but I have seen it in one chain 
locally  (Record Theatre, Buffalo, NY) at their average price for domestic 
records, so I assume it can be easily special ordered.

>\\ ddebry@dsd.es.com \ ddebry@cc.utah.edu \ debry@cadehp0.eng.utah.edu \\
>David DeBry \ Email any address. \ Finger ddebry@cc.utah.edu for details.

Gerson Koenig
gmkoenig@lictor.acsu.buffalo.edu
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From: horan@hemlock05.cray.com (Rick Horan)
Subject: Re: Ramones, punk rock, XRaySpex, others (lots)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:36:21 CDT

Originator: horan@hemlock05


> (excuse me if I just list the band names when I don't know
> the guitarist's name). My list:
> 
> Mick Jones of the Clash
> Greg Gihn of Black Flag
> Johnny Ramone 
> Angry Samoans guitarist
> Sex Pistols guitarist 

  steve jones

> The Damned's Guitarist
> DK's guitarist (Klaus Flouride?)
  east bay ray 

i also think a great punk guitarist was billy zoom of x.
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