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From: sdy@bcstec.boeing.com (Ugly Bag of Mostly Water)
Subject: What to dive in Hawaii?
Organization: Ringworld
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 00:07:34 GMT

Ok, someone mail me the FAQ section on places to dive in Hawaii -- I'll be
spending about 10 days at the end of Feb in Oahu and have never been there
before. Unfortunately my friends there don't dive so they've been no help in
preparing my trip.

What I would like would be, either a mid-week boat dive (1 day) or overnighter.
I've heard Kona on the Big island would be cool and then I could also see the
volcano but would I have to worry about the flight altitudes of the
inter-island hoppers?

Also for those of you who travel lots (I don't) I plan on bringing my dive
computer in my carry-on and packing my knife, regulator (hoses detatched),
mask, snorkle,fins, and booties. -- should I bring my own BC? and what about my
light? I was also thinking about buying one of those (mail-order cheap) lycra
suits just for general skin protection but maybe I'd be better off renting a
light wet-suit.

I normally dive here where it's (relativly) cold (Seattle,WA) so should I
invest in a pair of light, warm water gloves? or maybe just buy them there? (no
I don't plan on coral raking, just don't want to pick up lots of scratches
etc). 

steve.
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From: leonglaw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Lawrence LEONG)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:58:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: RFD: RENAME several groups to rec.outdoors.*
Organization: HP Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.scuba

In rec.scuba, peterson@hpl.hp.com (Chris Peterson) writes:

| 	DO NOT RENAME rec.scuba

Hear! Hear!

|
| 	The extra hierarchy that this proposal suggests does not
| 	sound useful to *any* of the groups mentioned.
|
| 	Why not rename rec.outdoors.fishing to rec.fishing?
| 	rec.indoors.fishing would be ridiculous :-).

Maybe, maybe not.  Main subscribers would be cats.  Ever seen a cat go fishing
at a fish tank?  :-)

Lawrence

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Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: jwall@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Wall)
Subject: Re: Sherwood Blizzard Regulators
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 14:48:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.122012.1@vax.sonoma.edu> BURD@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>Does anyone know of any mail-order places that carry the Sherwood
>Blizzard regulator? Or some stores in California perhaps?

You can't buy sherwood regs by mail order legally.  If a reg is bought
mail order the warranty is void and a few other things (I don't remember
all the other problems). 

A few months Berry's or some mail order house  was trying to sell some
Sherwood regs and serwood sent out a letter to all thier dealers
warning them to not service the regs etc...

Cheers,

Jeff Wall
From: jbronfel@pacaya.prime.com (Jason Bronfeld)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Need info on diving at Cozumel
Summary: Need info on Cozumel
Keywords: diving, Cozumel
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:15:58 GMT
Distribution: na

Hi,

My friend and I are going to be in Cozumel near the 
end of March. We would like to go diving there. We
are both casual divers (2/3 times a year). Any
suggestions, recommendations or warnings would 
be greatly appreciated! Please respond to me
via e-mail. 

Thanks in advance,

Jason
Newsgroups: rec.scuba,ba.market.misc
From: mcg@island.COM (Matt McGlynn)
Subject: Dive light FOR SALE
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:15:12 GMT


For sale:

Underwater Kinetics UK-400 scuba light

	- pistol-grip
	- lanyard
	- takes 4 D cells (not included)

	Retails for $59 in San Francisco

	Your price:  $35 

	This includes shipping w/in
	continental USA.

Please respond via e-mail:  mcg@island.com

Thanks.			- matt mcglynn
From: Michael_J._Thomas@magic-bbs.corp.apple.com
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Fwd: Re: Bad Back
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:29:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada

Lyle, have you tryed calling Diver's Alert network (DAN)?  They should be
able to give you some definitive answers.  I beleive you have to be a
member but It can't hurt to try and call.  The number for membership is
1-800-446-2671 or you can try to call(919)684-8111
 
Good Luck, Mike

***********************************************************
The views expressed in this posting are those of the individual author
only.
***********************************************************
From: leonglaw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Lawrence LEONG)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:06:22 GMT
Subject: Re: Attention Grabbers
Organization: HP Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.scuba

In rec.scuba, lah@Cadence.COM (Lin A. Hendrix) writes:

|If using the Dive Alert, how does one protect one's own hearing 
|from being damaged?  I'd hate to have to choose between going deaf
|and being found...

1.   Hold facing away from self when in use
2.   Do not use in an enclosed area (like in your bedroom, altho' why anyone in
     their right mind would do so is beyond me)
3.   Do not let your younger brother use it in contravention of above two :-)

Lawrence

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: guadagna@ast.saic.com (Lisa Guadagna)
Subject: Diving Locations in Tahiti
Reply-To: guadagna@ast.saic.com
Organization: SAIC
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:03:13 GMT


Can anyone give me suggestions for diving locations in French Ponynesia,  specifically The Society Islands of
Moorea, Bora Bora, Raiatea, Tahiti and Huahine? I will be there in late Februrary. 

I am relatively inexperienced, but am PADI certified. 

---
Lisa Guadagna, SAIC   ; guadagna@ast.saic.com
From: buzz@bear.com (Buzz Moschetti)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Virgin Gorda vs. Grand Cayman
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:25:07 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST

For a long weekend (3 days diving, 4 nights), which is better?  I
dove GC w/Don Foster's outfit about 3 years ago and it was terrific.
I hear, however, that Virgin Gorda is "even better," although I have
no handle on the dive operators there.

Clues anyone?
From: dan@dbg.dev.cdx.mot.com (Dan Grossman)
Subject: Re: From Avon to Zodiac
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:54:23 GMT

>I would also be interested in hearing about any other "buyer's guide" type
>publications for inflatable boats.  Please post if you know of any.

There was a two-part article in _Practical Sailor_ January 15 and
February 1 1993 issues.  Also, they did owners surveys a few years
ago.
From: williams@fdcv14.enet.dec.com (Pat Williams )
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Boston Sea Rovers 39th Underwater Clinic
Date: 25 Jan 1993 08:50:16 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

The 39th Annual Boston Sea Rovers Underwater Clinic will be held March 5th 
through 7th at the Copley Plaza Hotel in Boston. The show has been expanded 
to a full two days of exhibits, seminars, workshops and the popular Saturday 
night film extravaganza. Topics in this years show include:  Dive Medicine, 
Safety and Instruction; Diving Technology and Techniques; Women in Diving; 
Wreck Diving; Marine Ecology; and Local and Exotic Dive Travel.  A partial 
list of speakers includes Randy Bohrer, Gary Carbonneau, Chip Cooper, Norm 
Despres, Bret Gilliam, Butch Hendrick, Hank Keatts, Ken Loyst, Holly Martell, 
Rich Nordstrom, Dan Orr, Bob Sanders, Phil Sharkey, Brad Sheard, Brian Skerry,
and Hillary Vidders, to name a few.

The Saturday night festival will feature Dr. Sylvia Earle as the Master of 
Ceremonies, with Bill Curtsinger presenting a retrospective of his 20+ years 
as a photographer for National Geographic and Stan Waterman premiring his 
latest film, Reefs of Borneo.

A partial list of workshops includes: VIP Tank Inspection, Nikonos First Aid, 
DAN Oxygen Administration, Basic Underwater Photography, Field Neurological 
Program, Instructor and Instructor Trainer, DAN Oxygen Instructor and IAND 
Nitrox Instructor. More information on workshops can be obtained by calling 
(603)432-1997.

Tickets for the Sea Rovers Underwater Clinic are: Saturday exhibits and 
seminars - $10, Saturday night film festival - $10, and Sunday exhibits and 
seminars - $10. The Meet-the-Speakers party, after the film show, is free 
with the purchase of all three tickets. Otherwise, it's an additional $5. 
Workshops have additional costs which vary with content. Further ticket
information can be obtained by contacting:

	Boston Searovers
	c/o Bunky Hodge
	174 Beech Street
	Rockland, MA. 02370	
 


Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: njs@scifi.uucp (Nicholas J. Simicich)
Subject: Re: getting started-selecting instructors
Organization: Nick Simicich, Peekskill, NY
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:49:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.175628.27012@smos.com> joseph@smos.com (Joseph
Crunk) writes:

>Concerning the discussion about folks that want to learn how to scuba dive:
>
>#Can't sit still on this one.....I agree with Alan. It's more important that
>#you find a good instructor with whom you feel comfortable. That's the key !!
>
>This is good for experienced divers. But what about beginners? My inference
>being that only an experienced diver is able to assess a *good instructor*.

Someone who does not know about diving can still access whether or not
they are capable from learning from a particular instructor.  They can
also access the course offerred and determine whether or not it meets
their needs, and matches their philosophy.

As an example, I've heard people say that they preferred a shorter
course to a longer one even though they might leave something out.  To
me, this attitude is foreign, and I tend to give a complete course.
You might ask how much 'work' you will do during the course.  Some
instructors emphasize physical activity.

Finally, you might ask what in-water activities are practiced.  At
least one agency emphasizes forward rolls and so forth, to the
detriment (in my opinion) of practicing (what everyone else seems to
consider) ordinary things.  But everyone seems to learn to dive, more
or less.  Decide what you want to do.

>I asked this question before on the net and didn't get much of a reply:
>How does someone that wants to learn to dive determine a *good instructor*? 
>
>Personally, I place a lot of weight on the instructor's affiliation with
>a dive store, and that dive store's reputation. If the dive store is in
>any way questionable, I write-off the instructor as exhibiting poor judgement
>by being affiliated with that store. Free-lance instructors, on the other
>hand, are much more difficult to assess, but have a greater potential.

Joe and I might have different ideas of what makes a dive store
questionable.  Certainly, playing fast and loose with equipment, air
quality, and so forth makes a dive store questionable, but this is an
area that a student just can't judge, as they probably haven't heard
anything bad about the dive store, and haven't heard about air quality
testing, and couldn't look at a compressor and decide if it was safe
or not.

If you go into the store and get a hard sell, maybe that is something
to worry about.  Do folks just talk diving there, or do they sell
diving?  If they are selling it to you, are you being oversold?  In
the northeast here, if you plan on diving locally, are they oriented
to sending people on tropical trips?  If your main interest is
tropical diving, are they hooked to a good resort referral network for
your open water dives?

-- 
Nick Simicich - uunet!bywater!scifi!njs - njs@watson.ibm.com
SSI #AOWI 3958, HSA 318, NAUI #14065
Join the movement ---  turn 'to bush' into a verb.
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Subject: Re: Shell care
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:08:00 GMT

In article <1k06uvINN517@sumax.seattleu.edu>, smithsh@sumax.seattleu.edu (Scott H. Smith) writes:
> You have several choices: either (as someone already suggested) let the
> shell sit in water for a few days, gently boil the shell, soak the shell
> in a short chain alcohol (ethanol, methanol, iso-propyl) for a day or so
> then rinse with fresh, preferably distilled, water. Once the organism has
> been removed you can apply a low luster lacquer to the shell which will
> decrease the oxydation process and preserve the coloration. (Keeping the
> shell out of direct sunlight will also help.)
> 
> Incidently, I agree that the shells should be left on the reef. They not
> only aid the creatures that created them but creatures that will utilize
> them later.

The last time that I was in Belize, the fishermen would cut out the 
Conch meat and just ditch the shells next to the dock.  I collected
a few and (after spraying them with insecticide to kill any nasty
tropical bug eggs that might get layed in them) sealed them in 
plastic and brought them home.  When I opened them a coupl of months
later...  GGGGGAAAAAAACCCCCCCKKKKKK!!!!!  What a stench!  I took them
to a car wash and sprayed them out with the pressure washer
and then soaked them in automatic dishwashing detergent (about 1/4
cup to 5 gallons of water) for a few days, rinsed them and dried them.
No problemo.  

BTW:  STOP THE SLAUGHTER, EAT LESS CONCH!   B-)

Ted Feuerbach - Scientific Systems Consultant
Disclaimer:     Monsanto didn't say this, I did!
Stupid Quote:   Money is simply alcohol in a 
                more easily transportable form.
                                            - Me
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: ellene@microsoft.com (Ellen Mitsue Eades)
Subject: Re: Cozumel opinions
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:04:48 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <80726@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt1189c@prism.gatech.EDU (Vicky S. Smith) writes:
>I am planning to go to Cozumel in April or May of this year.  After 
>reading the results of an archived search I still have no clear idea
>about where to stay.  A friend suggested staying at the Hotel Barracuda
>and diving with Dive Paradise next door.  I would appreciate any comments
>on these places, plus any other helpful suggestions.  Thanks!

It's perfectly adequate.  We stayed up the street from them
and used Dive Paradise.  It is a PADI ***** place, so gear
was available and in good condition and the operators were good.  
The one issue I had was that the night dive was on a cattle-car 
boat (about 15 people, 2 divemasters) and suffered from
Obnoxious Tourist Diver syndrome.  Other than that, they were 
just fine, and reasonably priced.
-- 
Ellen Eades					Microsoft Corporation
"Just call me F.G.M.  I hate excess verbiage."  _Twice Upon a Time_
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: jammer@eskimo.com (Lyle Harwood)
Subject: Re: FEMALE DIVE BUDDY WANTED, BOSTON
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:03:51 GMT

luis del (rodin@acs.bu.edu) wrote:
: 
: >It raises some interesting questions.  Why are men threatened by this
: >kind of posting and women not?  Are male divers so invested in the
: >machismo of diving that an expression of emotional need (for love) is
: >taken as a sign of weakness that must be attacked?  To my mind, using
: 
: 
: 
: I think you have the "bends".  Maybe you should subscribe to a feminis
newsgroup, I sure that I would not feel threatened by that. For an
emtional need for love try the Romance newsgroup. FOR DIVING STORIES,
AND LOCATIONS try this one.
: 
: thanks
Yup. Good place to find dive buddys, too.
An it looks like a GREAT place to find dates that dive.
From: jkrzycki@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Joseph A Krzycki)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Colzumel Confusion
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:37:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Ohio State University

>My goal was to research our upcoming tript to Cozumel.  Based on 1990 vintage
posts we reserved a room at Casa Del Mar, but

>we have not paid any deposit yet.  They offer a package with Del Mar Aquatics.
>Would appreciate a reply if anyone has had recent experiences with either the
>hotel or the dive shop.

>
>Awash in info, but have tried to narrow down to two options above.  Would
>appreciate additional feedback.  Thanks
>
>Andrew S. Katz

Andrew.
We went to the island in August 1992 and had a great time at the Casa Del Mar
and dived exclusively with Del Mar Aquatics. The hotel was clean, and the folks
who ran it friendly and used to the ways of gringos on dive trips. We had
absolutely no complaints about the hotel or its service. We usually dived in
the morning from Del Mar. The divemaster we had was very friendly, tried to
figure out where you had been and where you wanted to go that day. They
provided you with Coke after dives. The boat was fast enough that the furthest
dive sites on the island were about 35 minutes away. We left at 8 and returned
at noon,after 2 dives,  just in time to spend the day ordering Corona from the
pool bar. We took a taxi into town at night for about $7 one way, and never
felt like we missed anything being on the outskirts of town. Del Mar is to the
south of town, (most of the diving is south), and is right across the street
from the hotel.The airplane dive is right there, down the shore a bit and is
great for your checkout dive.

 The next time we go to Cozumel, it'll probably be to the same hotel and dive
shop. I've only  good memories about the last trip. Make sure you do a night
dive or two, but watch those currents! They change from hour to hour.

 Hope this isn't too late to help your plans.
Have a great time!
JAK
From: bangs@cs.utk.edu (Alex L. Bangs)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: DEMA 93 trip report
Date: 28 Jan 1993 12:05:15 -0500
Organization: CS Department, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: duncan.cs.utk.edu

Two questions:

(1) what is the advantage of the two-piece computer? Lighter weight on
the wrist w/more functionality? And are these things getting pressure info
and sending it on? How do the two pieces communicate? Sorry if I missed
something...

(2) can you explain more about the DUI weight system? Never heard of it...

Appreciate the trip report!!

Thanks,
Alex
From: awatkins@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au (Andrew B. Watkins)
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Solomon Islands.
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:05:05 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne Dept of Meteorology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au


Hello world.
After reading all this stuff about diving elsewhere in the world,
I thought I should just give a big plug for the Southern Hemisphere
(well, just), and in particular the Solomons. I am a novice,
(I actually did my NAUI OW1 while I was working over there), and
all the diving I have done so far has been in the "Happy Isles",
though I have done a lot of snorkelling, both around Melbourne 
and on the Barrier reef. Anyway, the dives in the Solomons are mostly
wreck dives on ships and planes that were downed in WWII. The added
benefit is that they are now encrusted with all types of coral, and
all have thousands of tropical fish swarming over them. The locals carry
on a bit about sharks (makos) but my dive instructor and his mates had 
never seen any. One of the dives you can do is to a B17 bomber, and you
can actually sit in the cockpit still. The brilliant parrot fish, 
a large purple coloured grouper and a BIG barracuda were the highlights
for me, as well as manouvering through the holds etc of one of the
beached Japanese transport ships. Which is another thing; a number of the
wrecks (in particular Boneghi I & II) are only 20-30 metres off the
beach so access is amazingly easy. And they drop down to about 30+ metres,
as the ships are long and the bottom contour steep. Then of course there
is the water itself; visibility generally was about 10-15+ metres, and
the water temp; a balmy 27 - 30 C! No need for wetsuits even at a bit of
depth. Other divers I spoke to said that there was even better diving out
at an island called Gizo, but unfortunately my work prevented me getting
over there so I have to take their word for it.
The people i dived and learnt with were from Island Dive Services at the
Mendana Hotel in Honiara, Guadalcanal. They were excellent, and I would
recommend them to anyone. They take out a dive group at 9:00am and at
2:00pm, and generally there is very few people (they can all fit easily
into an 10 seater minibus). 
Anyway, enough of my raving. I loved it. I loved the Solomons.
I want to go back ....




Andrew B. Watkins                    |    `To strive, to seek, to find and
awatkins@mullara.met.unimelb.edu.au  |     not to yield'  
awatkins@buster.met.unimelb.edu.au   |                  - Lord Tennyson
From: walz@elde1.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: rec.scuba
Subject: Re: Sound Direction Indicators
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:19:02 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <1993Jan19.132626.5008@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, jwall@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeff Wall) writes:
> In article <1993Jan14.164148.24148@fnx.uucp> lowe@fnx.uucp (Phill Lowe) writes:
[stuff deleted]
> enviornment is foreign to us.  In water sound travels 25 times faster than
> in air therefore the time delay between the ears we experience on land is
[stuff deleted]
> wall@hel4.brl.mil

In water sound travels only 5 times faster than in air !
M. Walz
walz@elde.epfl.ch

Newsgroups: rec.scuba
From: jlkarsn@srv.PacBell.COM (John L. Karsner)
Subject: Grand Cayman: Adventure or disaster!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:05:32 GMT

I am about to take a long overdue vacation to the Cayman's this coming April.

I am seeking suggestions on diving accomodations / activities in and around
Grand Cayman. I already subscribe to many of the diving magazines and read
all the advertising hype. I would like to hear some personal experiences
(good and bad) from people who have recently been there themselves.


Please send any comments (excluding flames) to: jlkarsn@PacBell.COM


Thanks in advance,



John L. Karsner


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