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From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Vampyres and more
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:38:01 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <6902@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra) writes:
>
>  2)  Can anyone out there recall the name of the disease that is similiar
>     to vapires.  (That is, causes an iron deficiency in the blood, making
>     one susceptable to strong light and certain chemicals in garlic/onions.)
>     (This is not a joke; it really does exist).
>                                         Owen


I don't have any answers for the other questions right now, but I'll take a
'stab' (bad joke:)) at this one. I know that anemia results from blood loss
because iron is housed in the blood, so maybe that's part of it. Let me know
if you get any responses that aren't on here because now I'm curious!
			Laurel

__________________"I am Count Dracula. I bid you welcome."__________________

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                                                  there in the light---
(Also known as Laurel,                            except fear."  
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:45:06 EDT
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: mistake on back cover of "IT"

Another mistake (I think) in IT is a part (can't say exactly where, maybe a lit
tle more than half way thru) where someone is remembering a bit about a "very
scared Victor Criss" approaching them in a park/playground.  I think Vic did
this to warn the losers that Henry was quite insane and was going to proceed
beyond hurting them to killing them.  But King never gets around to telling
that part of the story.  It seems like a slip up to me, but I could be wrong.
Maybe it was just one of those ambiguous things King never gets around to telli
ng us more about on purpose...

Great book. Great movie.  I just finished the book a week or so ago.
It's hard to get to sleep after reading that for awhile.

Sime
From: ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Vampyres and more
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:13:56 GMT
Followup-To: alt.horror
Organization: Swinburne Institute of Technology, Hawthorn, Victoria


     A few quick words :-

  1)  Am much in favor of an alt.vampires

  2)  Can anyone out there recall the name of the disease that is similiar
     to vapires.  (That is, causes an iron deficiency in the blood, making
     one susceptable to strong light and certain chemicals in garlic/onions.)
     (This is not a joke; it really does exist).

  3)  Does anyone know if either "Cry for Dawn" or "Subtle Violence" comics
     are still being produced.  (Both comics have excellent graphics, and
     usually have at least one great story per iss.)  I am already suffering
     withdrawal pains from "Faust", which seems to have faded away ...

  4)  Does anyone know any stories by author Frank Belknap Long.
     I read one of his stories in one of the Graphton horror softbacks,
     and was pretty impressed by it.


   My thanks to those who responded (both for and against) Ms Rice.

   You have my thanks in advance for any replies, either email or via news.

                                         Owen
From: ekarpp@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Edward Karpp)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: THE UNNAMABLE movie
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:53:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Aug28.043926.27155@news.ysu.edu> aa361@yfn.ysu.edu (Tom Puncekar) writes:
>
>I thought the special effects in _The Unamable_ were fairly decent.
>Some of my favorite scenes in the film are that in which the "Unamable"
   (descriptions of scenes from THE UNNAMEABLE)
>...Dp...
>-- 

The same crew who made THE UNNAMEABLE (sp?) have, for some
reason, made a sequel.  THE UNNAMEABLE RETURNS should be
coming out soon, probably straight to video (if it isn't
on video already).

--Edward Karpp

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: Vampire advise
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1992Aug21.204428.26665@uceng.UC.EDU>
	<92Aug22.001510.24532@acs.ucalgary.ca> <6889@stan.xx.swin.oz.au>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:33:21 GMT

In article <6889@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra) writes:


	  Really??  I had heard words from the editor of a comic ("Cry For Dawn") that
	 said in effect that Rice's stuff was romantic trash.  I can't agree with
	 either command; I have not read any of her works.  I will, however, give it
	 a read if you reccomand it as excellent.

I've read all three of the Lestat series.  ``Interview'' was a
masterpiece.  ``Lestat'' got off to a good start, but fell apart by the
end.  I absolutely failed to sustain my suspension of disbelief... in
fact, I was laughing uncontrollably.  ``Queen'' was self-righteous,
repetitive, dull, feminist political claptrap (when I right this, let
me clarify that not all feminist writing is claptrap, nor is all
claptrap feminist.  This, however, is feminist claptrap).

Note that she also writes under two nom de plumes; she does write
romance novels with one and she writes s&m novels under the other --
this could be what the editor was thinking of (don't remember either
of the other two names off the top of my head).

-Joe.
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: grada@columbia.dsu.edu (Alison Grad)
Subject: Re: THE UNNAMABLE movie
Organization: Dakota State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:20:52 GMT

In article <17flq3INNpo4@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder) writes:
>From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder)
>Subject: THE UNNAMABLE movie
>Date: 26 Aug 92 10:18:43 GMT


>> I have seen HPL's THE UNNAMABLE in my local vid. store and was just 
>>    wondering if this was worth renting. Any recomendations... 

>Nope, it's not.  Like most HPL movie adaptations, it suffers in the 
>translation.  Most of HPL's protagonists were sort of solitary, scholarly
>types -- while, once a movie is made, it's almost inevitable that this
>will become a college-age kid, his girlfriend and a couple of extras.
>Also, while I believe the short story just hinted at some hideous beast
>that left its face in the window through hundreds of years of staring
>out of it, there's got to be some running around in the haunted house
>as the monster shambles after you stuff in the motion picture.  Top
>this off with a rock-bottom budget and direct-to-video release, and you
>have a real loser.

I thought that The Unnamable was okay.  If you are looking for a good film 
to watch with your friends on a stormy evening, I say go for it.  If you are 
looking for _great_ special effects, don't.  But overall, it's not a 
_terribly_ bad movie.

Alison
From: moon!cyberden!jwlhyfer@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Question: Frankenstein, the true story?
Date: 27 Aug 92 09:10:36 GMT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

The Lord Ruthven story, entitled "The Vampyre" was originally written by 
John Polidori and published under Lord Byron's name..Lord Byron's Doctor 
certainly must contain more juicy speculations on what happened that 
night,and it has been remaindered at $3.98..

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N       [ moon!cyberden!jwlhyfer@well.sf.ca.us ]
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick)
Subject: Re: Vampyres and more
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:02:01 GMT

In <5193@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan) writes:

>In article <6902@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra) writes:
>>


>I don't have any answers for the other questions right now, but I'll take a
>'stab' (bad joke:)) at this one. I know that anemia results from blood loss
>because iron is housed in the blood, so maybe that's part of it. Let me know
>if you get any responses that aren't on here because now I'm curious!
>			Laurel

Naw, its porphyria.  Anemia is a good guess Laurel but porphyria is
far more 'dramatic'.  It used to be used (maybe it still is) to
explain the werewolf myth as well.  Porphyria causes disfiguration and
a great deal of pain for the victim.  David Dolphin proposed that if,
in the middle ages, victims resorted to drinking large quantities of
blood to relieve their pain then this could have spawned the vampire
myth.  Thing is though that variations on the vampire myth can be
found in numerous cultures around the world while porphyria is most
'common' in southern Europe.  It is more likely, that blood is
universal resource for mythic symbolism and one good way of describing
evil is something which drinks blood (with my anthropology background
I could give a more elaborate explanation but it would still boil done
to the same thing).  Paul Barber has a good but quick discussion of
Dolphin's claim (_Vampires,_Burial,_and_Death_)

Ian
From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: HOUSE III??????
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:39:12 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

I just read;  I quote "House III as good horror film".
Since I'm living in a retarded country (Norway) I haven't even heard of this.
TELLMEALLABOUTITNOW! PLEEEEEAAAAASE! And tell me it's better than House II 
PLEEEEAAAAASE!

-----Gunnarh
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: <<*NEW HORROR*>>
Organization: none
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:15:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.050839.28912@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> kmrobert@nyx.cs.du.edu (K.M.Roberts) writes:
>someone asked if _Deadlines_ could be read with each chapter being independant
>of the rest of the novel. The answer is NO!  However... You could go through
>and read the short stories an it independantly from everything else.
>
>*Spoilers...*
>
>	The whole idea of the novel is that two girls move into an apt.
>together where the previous resident had commited suicide. This resident
>was an author. The one girl finds and reads a bunch of his short stories.
>These are the short stories you _could_ read alone...
>
>	Then the stories have an effect on the girl who found them and
>the plot is off and running... I'm not *really* doing the plot justice
>here though...
>
>	The novel is written around these short stories which the girl
>finds and reads... but the whole short story is shown when is says that 
>she is reading it....
>
>	The shorts add illumination into the previous resident and
>to what is currently happening... but they would (I suppose) still be
>good on their own. In fact, I believe (could be mistaken) that one
>or two of them ORIGINALLY appeared in print as an independant short .
>
>does this elp any?
>
>--
>kmr...                                      Fiction is created by writers
>kmrobert@nyx.cs.du.edu                      Lies are concocted by liars
>"I have engaged the                         Fiction is a string of lies
>Theoretical Weasel!"                        I am a liar...

Almost all of the stories in "DeadLines" were published in magazines first.
Which is why I didn't care for it. I had already read most of the shorts, 
but I did kind of like the connecting story. The short stories appear to 
have come first, and then the idea for the "novel"

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: AZ.EPC@forsythe.stanford.edu 
Subject: Half-remembered movie
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:34:09 GMT



When I was a kid I saw a movie called "Blood on Satan's Claw" -
I remember it starting with a medieval farmer plowing a field and
uncovering something, a skull or bones I think....I remember one
scene which scared me badly - a guy in an attic (?) trying desper-
ately to keep something underneath from opening the trap door and
this scene may have included a dismemberment of some kind...also
seems that the story included patches of hair growing on peoples
skins, and a priest fighting the devil around a blazing fire at
the end....anyone remember this?  Was it a Hammer film?  Any info
will help.

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: ak@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Andreas Kutschera)
Subject: Re: Hellraiser III looks a little dodgy....
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 09:48:59 GMT

intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder) writes:


>> I must say that I too am hanging out for HEllraiser 3 and Evil Dead 3
>> "The  Army of Darkness". I will be incredibly dissapointed if either
>> of these two films are ....... disappointing. I too must say I have
>> some bad vibes about Hellraiser 3 after hearing that Barker's
>> involvement with the film is very limited. I also read somehwere that

That may be one of the reasons why the movie failed in my eyes.

>Now, the thing is:  I am very poor.  If the third HELLRAISER movie is no
>good, I'd rather save my money and be happy with the fond memories of the
>first two.  So, WHOEVER GOES TO SEE HELLRAISER III AS SOON AS IT GOES OUT:
>post a nice big message saying what you thought of it.  Hell, do a good

Um, I did post a review, only it was in rec.arts.movies(.reviews). I still
have a couple of copies left via email :-)
In short, I suggest that you see Hellraiser II again. It's much more fun.

>spoiler, I'm not one of those who cares if the ending is "ruined", and
>anyone who is can skip over your post.

For spoilers you'll have to email me directly (but there aren't many in
the movie - too predictable :-(

>
>ad for it.  The ad looked a little suspect.... the way it was filmed made
>it look like a bad horro movie sequel -- maybe just because it all takes
	it is.
>place on earth.  Another bad sign is that they included scenes from 
	well, it *does* take place in New York, which is about as close
to hell as you can get here -  except Rostock maybe :-(
>HELLRAISER II in the commercial for HELLRAISER III... an indication that
>there aren't enough good scenes in the new one??

you mean they actually showed _good_ scenes from III? Gee, I'm beginning
to dislike this one a lot lately :-)
ciao
	Andreas

--
------------------------------------------------------------------
'Wait here. The story of your life could be just around the corner.'
	from Hellraiser III
all replies to : ak@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de
From: marc r stephens@um.cc.umich.edu (Marc Stephens)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: RE: Alt.Vampire
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:41:52 GMT
Organization: University Of Michigan Medical School
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 09:44:25 GMT

I can't seem to find alt.vampire anywhere in the list of groups on my
newsreader. Is it up yet? Do I have to do something special to get it? I
*REALLY* want to get this group! Let me know.

marc r stephens@um.cc.umich.edu
Opinions expressed are not those of the University of Michigan Medical
School, Medical Admin, or Marc Stephens. They *are* the opinions of the
voices in Marc's mind.
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: ketter@mdd.comm.mot.com (Cindy Ketterling)
Subject: Re: Saberhagen's DOMINION -- is it a sequel?
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:19:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.145723.1973@msdhsv.ingr.com> foxx@foxxjac.b17a.ingr.com writes:
>In article <9208251255.AA07580@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin) writes:
>|> I just finished Fred Saberhagen's book DOMINION, [...]
>
>There's probably a title missing, but (in no particular order)...
>
>THE DRACULA TAPES
>AN OLD FRIEND OF THE FAMILY
>THORN
>DOMINION

plus:
THE HOLMES-DRACULA FILE
A MATTER OF TASTE
A QUESTION OF TIME

- The Cypherkat 
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: bucknerb@bnr.ca (Brent Buckner)
Subject: Re: Vampyres and more
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ontario, Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:04:29 GMT

In article <6902@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra) writes:
>
>  2)  Can anyone out there recall the name of the disease that is similiar
>     to vapires.  (That is, causes an iron deficiency in the blood, making
>     one susceptable to strong light and certain chemicals in garlic/onions.)
>     (This is not a joke; it really does exist).
>
Porphyria.

-- 
at Bell-Northern Research
voice:        (613) 765-2739
Canada Post:  P.O. Box 3511, Station C, Ottawa, Canada, K1Y 4H7
I do not claim that BNR holds these views.  
Newsgroups: alt.horror,misc.writing
From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Horror Magazines
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:03:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.000019.27468@gallant.apple.com> chuq@gallant.apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach) writes:
>guay@fraser.sfu.ca (Tim Guay) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug31.170637.23876@pellns.alleg.edu> frisinv@alleg.edu writes:
>>>   I'm an unpublished author of horror stories looking to rectify that  
>>>situation. Mostly, I write supernatural/psychological oddities and  
>>>something very vaguely Lovecraftian with a surrealist twist.
>
>>Buy a copy of The Novel and Short Story Writer's Market it will give
>>you all the info you need. It is put out by Writer's Digest annually.
>
>Actually, since there really aren't any major professional horror markets,
>N&SSWM will be of limited help. Most of the real fun going on with short
>horror is in the semi-pro world, and for that you need SCAVENGER'S
>NEWSLETTER and/or GILA QUEEN, both monthly semi-pro market report
>newsletters (neither of who's address I have handy, but I'll try to rectify
>that if someone doesn't beat me to it). 
>
>-- 
>Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX) =+= Member, SFWA
>  chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ =+= Editor, OtherRealms
>	A real SF writur with stories in ALTERNATE KENNEDYS and THE 
>	  FURTHER ADVENTURES OF BATMAN, in better bookstores now!

Haven't looked at one lately, but Writer's Market used to list a LOT of
small, Semi-pro magazines, horror and otherwise. So do look at it.

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: AZ.EPC@forsythe.stanford.edu 
Subject: Re: Shirley Jackson
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:03:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.073100.11571@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>,
J1300DAF@vm.univie.ac.at writes:
>
>I am reading a book by Shirley Jackson "The Lottery", a 1947-compilation of
>short-stories. Not what a lot of you out there would consider to be "real"
>horror, but very irritating and disturbing. The stories are mostly about
>loneliness and the unability to build up relationships. Highly
>recommended. Anybody out there, who read her stuff?
>
>    - Oliver
>
>"I never drink ... wine." (The Count)


I thought the short story "The Summer People" was excellent.
There is something which I have discovered about writing technique
in general, and that is, sensitivity to anything is a plus.  Jackson
is suberb (note her description of Hill House in "The Haunting of
Hill House)....
From: ov@saturn.cs.swin.oz.au (Owen Veenstra)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: John Carpenter's Prince of Darkness
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:05:16 GMT
Organization: Swinburne Institute of Technology, Hawthorn, Victoria

In article <1992Aug28.171342.14606@access.digex.com>, rduggar@access.digex.com (robin of riverdale) writes:
|> Carpenter's PRINCE OF DARKNESS is one of my favorite horror movies.  My 
|> husband and I have watched it many times.  Partly ... to figure out what is
|> really going on.
|> 
|> Does anyone know if this was based on a novel or if there was a novelization
|> of the moive???  [Insight could be increased!]
|> 
|> -- 
|> Lady Robin of Riverdale
|> 
|> 
|> "Government is an association of men who do violence to the rest of us."

   Glad to see someone liking Carpender's work.  Have you seen his reworking
  of 'The Thing from Another Workd', called 'The Thing'.  It has *very*
  good complimentary effects ... but some see it as overkill.  For my tastes,
  though, it sets the atmosphere very well...

   For those of you out there who have not seen eith of these films, a walk
  to you local video shop is in order.

   ps : I recommend you watch 'The Thing'  in the very earily hours of the
 morning (ie between 2 and 4 AM).

                                   Owen  

  
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Looking for Hellraiser info
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:43:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.022427.19743@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
>I just saw _Hellraiser_ and _Hellraiser II_ for the first time. I am not a fan
>of horror films for the most part, but I thought that both of these were great.
>
>I have a few questions:
>
>1) Are there any other films out there that I will probably like if I like
>these two?
	Other Barker movies include _Rawhead Rex_ (A pretty faithful adaptation
	of the short story of the same name) and _Nightbreed_ (A bizarre
	story taken from his novella, _Cabal_.))da
>
>3) Were the films based on something that Barker wrote?
	They were based on his novella, _The Hellbound Heart_.  I have it,
	but haven't had a chance to read it yet.
				-Casey Hopkins
From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Isaac Truder)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Looking for Hellraiser info
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:59:51 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


> > 3) Were the films based on something that Barker wrote?
> > 
> > Thanks, Michael
> 
> They were based on "The Hellbound Heart", a short novel. While I
> haven't   read it yet, my friends tell me that Hellraiser 2 was
> closer to the book   than the first.

How do they figure that?  The story of the first movie pretty exactly mirrors
"The Hellbound Heart".  The only differences are sort of minor plot details,
and the character of Kirsty is not Julia's husband's daughter in the book,
she's his old flame.  The Cenobites aren't exactly the ones we've grown to
know and love from the movies.  Pinhead isn't even apparently the chief of them.But if your friends are saying "The Hellbound Heart" is more like the second
movie than the first, they're deranged.  Think about it -- "Hellbound" had
plot elements which would make absolutely no sense, were it not obviously
a sequel.
From: tddow@moray.chvpkh.chevron.com (Donald W. Downey)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Vincent Price
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:04:28 GMT
Reply-To: tddow@moray.chvpkh.chevron.com (Donald W. Downey)
Organization: chevron

Does anyone have an address for Vincent Price? Thanks!