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From: antiop@iastate.edu (Dr. Sexy Joon)
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.culture.malaysia
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:08:15 GMT

In <1ispaiINNpl3@rodan.UU.NET> barrera@mtu.edu (Christopher Barrera) writes:

>I would like to call together a discussion for the creation of
>a new newgroup, tentatively called "soc.culture.malaysia"

>The proposed group is unmoderated. That is, all who wish to join
>may freely do so.

>Proposed CHARTER for the proposed group "soc.culture.malaysia" -

>   The proposed group, soc.culture.malaysia, is intended for
>   the discussion of all topics pertaining to Malaysia, including
>   but not limited to: culture, national politics, foreign diplomacy,
>   economy, peoples, and land.


>Why I feel this newsgroup should be created -

>1) The current newsgroup in which most discussion of Malaysia
>   occurs is "soc.culture.asean". It seems that most of the
>   discussion in this group as a whole pertains to either
>   Malaysia or Singapore (which perhaps should have a group) 
>   rather than pertaining to ASEAN. This strongly hints that
>   a separate group should be created for discussion of Malaysia.

>2) Most of the larger countries in Southeast Asia are already represented
>   by newsgroups, including:

>   soc.culture.filipino
>   soc.culture.thai
>   soc.culture.vietnamese
>   alt.culture.indonesia

>   as well as others nearby -

>   soc.culture.australia
>   soc.culture.bangladesh
>   soc.culture.china
>   soc.culture.hongkong
>   soc.culture.new-zealand 

>3) soc.culture.asean, as mentioned in #1 above, no longer has much
>   talk about ASEAN as a whole, suggesting the group is no longer
>   fulfilling its intended purpose. Perhaps it should be dissolved
>   or renamed with a new charter. Anyhow, it now seems an apropriate
>   time for soc.culture.malaysia to be created.

	It's about time for a soc.culture.malaysia newsgroup!!!!!




Newsgroups: news.groups,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: talk.politics.usa.conservative (Was: Re: RFD: talk.politics.patriot)
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:14:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.040543.3614@cs.unca.edu> kepley@cs.unca.edu (Brad Kepley) writes:
> I don't know any Conservative who 
> wouldn't immediately feel warmth for Burke and  concern about Burke's
> concerns.

Go talk to some of the soi-disant "conservative" evangelical christians.

I used to apply this label to myself, until I got tired of trying to
justify some of the inanities that scoundrels looking for a flag to
wrap themselves in attached to it.
-- 
Peter da Silva                                            `-_-'
Ferranti International Controls Corporation                'U` 
Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012 USA
+1 713 274 5180                            "Zure otsoa besarkatu al duzu gaur?"
From: meetch@DIALix.oz.au (Mitchell Brandsma)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Patents newsgroups?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 14:01:18 +0800
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Summary: Looking..
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19 #1

	G'day all,

	Are there any newsgroups out there that deal with patents?  If not,
I'll settle for a relevant ftp site.  I know someone who is in search of
current patent lists.  For comparisons/research etc.

	Thanks in advance,
				- Mitchell Brandsma (meetch@DIALix.oz.au :)
From: bernard@ava.laas.fr (Bernard Berthomieu,28c,6408)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: comp.lang.ml
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:37:06 GMT
Reply-To: bernard@ava.laas.fr
Organization: LAAS-CNRS, Toulouse (France)

I vote yes for comp.lang.ml

Bernard Berthomieu
LAAS-CNRS, 7, Avenue du Colonel Roche, F-31077 Toulouse Cedex
e-mail: bernard@laas.fr
phone:  (+33) 61 33 64 08
fax:    (+33) 61 55 35 77
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: New VW Newsgroups
From: hippee@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:34:43 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

I would like for there to be the two groups mentioned concerning VW's.  I
happen to own both types of vehicles (75 bus and 80 Sciroco) but searching
through the mess of messages can be hair raising.

Lawrence Vaught
Hippee@oread.cc.ukans.edu

Newsgroups: news.groups
From: dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu (Donald R. Newcomb)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.food.breadmachines
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:19:39 GMT

In article <72946@cup.portal.com> Renee@cup.portal.com (Renee Linda Roberts) writes:
>I posted a request for discussion in rec.food.cooking, and the positive
>response is phenomenol! We believe this will be a VERY ACTIVE newsgroup,
>and so are requesting it be added.
>
>Renee Roberts

I'm sorry Renee, if it comes to a vote, I'm voting NO. I can see it now
rec.food.vegamatic, rec.food.sandwich-master, rec.food.dehydrators,
rec.food.crokpot, rec.food.microwave, rec.food.curly.spiral.cutter, etc,
etc, etc.

Why not just have a rec.food.bread or rec.food.baking? You can discuss
all forms of bread or baking without having a group for some fad machine.
However, I'm open to change. Convince me. Why don't you start with an
alt group and see how long the enthusiasm lasts?
-- 

Donald R. Newcomb                * Life only admits two states: 
dnewcomb@whale.st.usm.edu        * growing and dying. So what,
newcomb@usmcp6.bitnet            * if I've put on a little weight?
From: mjsmith@cac.washington.edu (Martha Smith )
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.religion.biblestudy moderated
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:16:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1ivfvmINN2tc
Distribution: world
Organization: UW Computing
NNTP-Posting-Host: redx.cac.washington.edu

In article <root.726513197@spssig>, adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
|> nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
|> 
I stongly agree that the dueterocannonical books, apocrypha etc. have to be fair game. 
> 
|> In my opinion, yes.  Discussions of the pseudopiegrapha, apocrypha and any 
|> other non-canonical writings have to be allowed, or else you really can't
|> have a discusison on canonicity, now can you?  
|> 
|> I say that the group should be moderated (to eliminate flaming, did-to-
|> did-not yelling, heretic calling, etc).  As I said, I'd consider being the
|> moderator of such a group, time permitting.  But only if the charter is
|> wide open to any Biblical or Bible-related topics.  And to any person,
|> irrespective of beleif or non-belief.
|> 
|> I won't support a group restricted to 'Christian' ideas, since I have no
|> idea what that means, and I'm a Christian!
|> 
|>  -Steve
|> --
|>   The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not SPSS, Inc.
|>                          -------------------
|>    adams@spss.com                                  Phone: (312) 329-3522
|>    Steve Adams        "Space-age cybernomad"       Fax:   (312) 329-3558
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From: djohnson@cs.ulowell.edu (Daniel T. Johnson)
Subject: Groups about Jobs or Job offers
Originator: djohnson@bigmax.ulowell.edu
Keywords: Jobs
Organization: U. Mass. at Lowell
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:36:18 GMT


Could some one send me a list of all the groups that have to do with Jobs or 
Job offers?
Thanks in advance.
-- 
Daniel T. Johnson

-------------------------------------------------
Problems make life interesting and fun
Newsgroups: news.groups
From: ljr@mitre.org (Luke J. Rheaume)
Subject: Re: RFD: reorganization of misc.jobs and similar groups
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: The MITRE Corporation - Bedford, MA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:47:05 GMT

In article <1isp5dINNpc4@rodan.UU.NET>, weinss@rpi.edu (Stephen Andrew
Weinstein) wrote:
> 
> These proposals are independent.  Some can be approved without the others:
>...... 
> Some of these proposals were earlier made informally by others.
> Some are original ideas of mine.
> -- 
> Stephen Weinstein
> weinss@rpi.edu
> 
> RPI, where airplane building is faster than light bulb changing.

I'll vote for a reorg of the jobs....I like the idea of 
misc.jobs."region"."subgroup" where "subgroup" would be offerd, wanted,
bio, comp, and possibly a subgroup for resumes to be posted.

Standard Disclaimer Applies:  These are my opinions, not my employers.

Luke J. Rheaume, Member of the Technical Staff
The MITRE Corporation, Strategic Surveillance Systems
202 Burlington Rd., MS M322
Bedford, MA 01730-1420
Newsgroups: news.groups
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Subject: Re: RFD: sci.crypt.research moderated
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC
Distribution: na,uk,au
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:55:48 GMT

In article <76311@apple.apple.COM> lenoil@catalogic.com (Robert Lenoil) writes:
> This topic has already been discussed quite a bit in this group, and I think
> the consensus of opinion was for *not* moderating the new group. 

That is NOT my impression of the consensus.  

  I saw A LOT of postings that said "keep sci.crypt unmoderated as is
and create a moderated sci.crypt.research for the research-oriented
technical/scientific discussions".

> Also, several alternative names were proposed that weren't as imposing 
> as "research" - not every cryptography practitioner is a "researcher". 
> I forget those alternative name suggestions, but how about 
> "sci.crypt.technical" or ".theory?"

  The point of the exercise was to create a noise free newsgroup that
WAS research-oriented and so the proposed name makes a hell of a lot
of sense for that purpose.  Other folks not interested in research
will still be able to use sci.crypt for their discussions and anyone
interested in research can use sci.crypt.research.

Newsgroups: news.groups,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
From: peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: talk.politics.usa.conservative (Was: Re: RFD: talk.politics.patriot)
Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
Organization: Xenix Support, FICC
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:39:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.220943.2525@cs.unca.edu> kepley@photon.phys.unca.edu (Brad Kepley) writes:
> Conservatism has always
> combined with Christianity from its first days.

SO you say.

> And notice, that although
> Kirk's writing is 40 years old it could have been written by any 
> Conservative today (although much less eloquently) or one hundred fifty
> years ago

Well, any one who happens to be a believer in the christ myth.

Not all are.

In any case, this is a massive digression from my point that any arbitrary
label on a group like this is as good as any other, so "conservative" might
as well be used since it won't alienate its advocates.
-- 
Peter da Silva                                            `-_-'
Ferranti International Controls Corporation                'U` 
Sugar Land, TX  77487-5012 USA
+1 713 274 5180                            "Zure otsoa besarkatu al duzu gaur?"
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: Request for new group discussion/vote guidelines.
Keywords: guidelines new group creation
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:58:07 GMT

In article <5xTes*zc1@kink.PhaedraV.On.Ca> hugh@kink.PhaedraV.On.Ca (Hugh D. Gamble) writes:
>Hi all. This aught to be in a FAQ somewhere, but I can't find it.
>Would someone be so kind as to send me a current copy of the
>guidelines for starting a formal discussion and vote on a new group?

Try 63197 Oct 19 10:01 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/doc-net/usenews.zip
I think I captured it in there.

"If you do not know how to go about getting this material, users are
welcome to email me for the prerecorded garbo.uwasa.fi instructions
(long, circa 29Kb).  North American users are referred to the Garbo
mirror on wuarchive.wustl.edu.  Australian users are referred to the
archie.au mirror.  For the Asian users there is the NCTUCCCA.edu.tw
mirror.  The mirrors may lag occasionally, or might not have all the
files.  If you do not receive my reply within five days, please ask
your own site's system manager to construct a returnable mail path
for you". 

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi      Co-moderator of comp.archives.msdos.announce
Moderating at garbo.uwasa.fi anonymous FTP archives 128.214.87.1
Faculty of Accounting & Industrial Management; University of Vaasa
Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland

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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: news.groups,rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.food.breadmachines
Date: 8 Jan 1993 19:57:38 GMT
Followup-To: news.groups
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1993Jan8.102734.5437@resonex.com> michael@resonex.com (Michael Bryan) writes:
>You seem to be going non-linear over something pretty trivial.

...in standard Joel Furr fashion.

>But trying to educate people by calling
>them dorks and using heated language is not going to do any good
>whatsoever.

I sincerely doubt he knows how to do otherwise.
For example, I fully expect that he'll post a followup to this message calling
me some kind of derogatory name...and all because I had the unmitigated gall
to disagree with him once upon a time.
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
      "Science is all in the public domain, and allows few secrets."
              -- Tom Clancy, _The Sum of All Fears_
Newsgroups: news.groups
From: styri@hal.nta.no (Haakon Styri)
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.religion.biblestudy moderated
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 13:17:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.145632.22541@pdn.paradyne.com>, nelson@pdn.paradyne.com
(Bill Nelson) writes:
> [...]
>
> A Bible study newsgroup would be an appropriate place to bring people 
> together and commonly study particular passages and then share their 
> feelings/interpretations of those passages at the same time.

(A similar wording appears in the original RFD.)

> This group should be based on research, rather than topical conversations.

Share feelings - based on research. Please, I think you have to rewrite
the RFD. I still don't know if what you're proposing is a bible-study
or a bible-research group. I don't think a group confusing the two will
be of much merit.

If this is a bible-study proposal, the proposed group name is probably
not the most suitable. I'd rather name it s.r.c.bible-study.

In article <1iftqkINN77t@rodan.UU.NET> nelson@paradyne.com (Bill Nelson) writes:
>This would be a group where the subject of the validity of the 
>Bible, Jesus Christ, God, and the Holy Spirit will NOT be under 
>question and topics such as abortion, creationism, etc will NOT 
>be discussed in depth - since these already exist in the 
>"talk.religion.misc" and "soc.religion.christian" newsgroups.  

There have been some discussion of this paragraph. I think that leaving out
all the "is there a God" postings would still make a bible-research group a
useful group. I do see opportunities for many flamefests, however.

(and, later in the RFD)
> For those who do not have access to Bibles, they can either be 
> directed to an ftp site where they can access electronic copies, 
> portions of the Bible can be broadcasted on the last day of the 
> prevous discussion period (as long as permission is granted first 
> - to avoid copyright infringement) or arrangements can be made to 
> provide hard bound bibles (if desired) to those who would like them
> (there are several agencies out there that could aid in this effort).

The King James has a very good distribution on the net, but are there
others in the public domain. (And, is KJ in the pd in all countries?)
However, there are plenty of other translations. You can probably quote
small portions of copyrighted translations together with your own comments
and claim Fair Use. It may work.

Wrt. to people not having a copy of the Bible - you did say "based on
research," didn't you?

---
Haakon Styri
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From: jaapjl@tab00.larc.nasa.gov (J Lee Jaap)
Newsgroups: news.groups,rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.food.breadmachines
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:35:46 GMT
Organization: AS&M Inc
	<C0ICGx.23B@rice.edu> <1993Jan8.040030.16459@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Reply-To: J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@larc.nasa.gov>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cmb00.larc.nasa.gov
In-reply-to: jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of Fri, 8 Jan 93 04:00:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.040030.16459@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr) writes:

   Post-an-RFD-on-SOME-proposed-name-to-tale@uunet.uu.net.

Post to an email address?  I don't know about you, but I post to
newsgroups and send email to email addresses.  (Are you using the
term "post" in the Brit style?)

Joel, you asked for this flame by the tone in your post.

Besides, on a properly configured news system, crossposting to
news.announce.newgroups is much easier since your newsreader helps
build the headers (Newsgroups, for instance) and accomplishes the
same result.
--
J Lee Jaap <J.L.Jaap@LaRC.NASA.Gov> +1 804/864-2148
    employed by, not speaking for, AS&M Inc, at
         NASA LaRC, Hampton VA 23681-0001
Newsgroups: news.groups
From: muntuck@bombay.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (MunTuck Yap)
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.culture.malaysia
Reply-To: muntuck.yap@columbiaSC.NCR.COM
Followup-To: news.groups
In-reply-to: barrera@mtu.edu's message of 11 Jan 1993 16:37:22 -0500
Organization: CCSD - Somewhere in AT&T
Date: 11 Jan 93 03:19:54

In article <1ispaiINNpl3@rodan.UU.NET> barrera@mtu.edu (Christopher Barrera) writes:

   From: barrera@mtu.edu (Christopher Barrera)

   I would like to call together a discussion for the creation of
   a new newgroup, tentatively called "soc.culture.malaysia"

-----

   The idea is excellent and probably at the right time. Generic discussion
   groups like asean are too encompassing, and moreover, Malaysians are
   generally dominating this 'asean' discussion group. The Singaporeans
   have their own.

   You have my vote.

Newsgroups: news.groups
From: idoy@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Mike Wilson)
Subject: To Ken and Kathy: soc.culture.native
Summary: Reply
Keywords: soc.culture.native
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  8 Jan 93 04:26:29 GMT

Hello to Ken and Kathy:

For some reason my Followup command doesn't seem to be working.
Here is my reply that managed to get crossposted to alt.native
but not to news.groups.

warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne) writes:

>Hello Mike,

>  Perhaps you could use the word "aboriginal" instead of "native"
>in the text of the charter.  Otherwise, I am afraid that you
>will provoke more complaints about "who is a native".
>--
>Ken Warkentyne - warkent@ltisun.epfl.ch
>                 Laboratoire de Teleinformatique, EPFL, Suisse.

Hello Ken,

That is a very good point. On the other hand, we might keep the word
native in there sometimes because it is, after all, the name of the
group.  In other words, intermix the two words "native" and
"aborginal" so everyone knows what we mean by "native."

What do you think?

Mike

wurfa8v@nerix.nerdc.ufl.edu writes:

>Sounds great to me.

>Have fun!

>   =-Kathy->                                    waddell@firnvx.firn.edu

Kathy,

Thanks for the vote of confidence!  The e-mail I've been receiving
shows that there is very little disagreement about the charter, and
strong support for the creation of this newsgroup.

So far, so good.

Mike
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From: chrisi@lloyd.Camex.COM (Chris Ischay)
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.food.breadmachines
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:13:51 EST

In article <1993Jan9.025545.18936@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Joel Furr) writes:


>This group concept does not lack for things that will be discussed.  What it
>*does* lack is a formal RFD that will start the process going.  Until
>this appears, you might as well go out and stand on the street telling
>strangers that you want a USENET group to discuss breadmachines in. 

Your point already seems to have been taken.  I'd like to mention that, in
another newsgroup I read avidly, the question of splitting came up.  It
never went beyond an informal discussion *within the newsgroup itself.*
Had the "official" policy been followed, some proposed splinter group might
have passed.  A lot of people who read their favorite newsgroups don't
participate in the news.* discussions as they would inside their newsgroups
of interest.  Informal discussion is worthwhile.  There really *is* a
difference between informal discussion inside a newsgroup and strangers on
the street.

>You see, you all are trying to convince people why there should be a
>group, and no one's really saying there shouldn't be a group.  So why
>don't you just get with it?

OK, but how come you're being so crabby about it?  I don't get it.
You sound almost contemptuous.

Chris Ischay
chrisi@camex.com
From: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: news.groups.meta
Date: 5 Jan 1993 14:25:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: fau@po.CWRU.Edu (Francis A. Uy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


An informal proposal to create a highly specialized
 newsgroup dedicated to:

discussions about discussions in news.groups
proposals to change the group creation procedures

The name should be news.groups.meta or news.groups.d

Half a smiley

Happy new year everyone.  Let's all resolve to flame
 a little less.


Newsgroups: news.groups
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Subject: Re: RFD : soc.forced-migration
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 21:26:28 GMT

Based on the description of the discussions planned, this sure sounds
a lot more like:
	talk.politics.refugee		{ for normal people }
OR	talk.politics.forced-migration	{ for the politically correct :-( }
OR	news.internat.refugees		{ for announcements, etc. }

For sure, soc.forced-migration is too high up in the heirarchy even if
one agrees that such a politicised subject belongs in soc.*

Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil

Xref: sparky news.groups:25109 rec.food.cooking:24536
Newsgroups: news.groups,rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: RFD: rec.food.breadmachines
From: hooverb@cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (Bruce Hoover,Armstrong)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:29:28 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Engineering Research Center
Originator: hooverb@a.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu

From article <1993Jan6.210023.14983@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, by jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Furr):
> 
> Brenda, listen to us:  what you say above means *nothing*.  Why?  Because
> until a CFD for rec.food.baking or rec.food.breadmachines appears in
> news.announce.newgroups, the clock on discussion doesn't start ticking. 
> 
Maybe I'm stupid, but I never heard of a CFD? There is a CFV which is
certainly premature, and a RFD which is request for discussion, which is
what this thread was titled and which is totally appropriate at this
stage and is exactly the place for the sort of things Brenda was saying.

(I think rec.food.baking might be a better name, and don't particularly
think it is necessary in the first place) but this was not an
innapropriate posting. An RFD is the place to discuss things.

Bruce Hoover
From: pat@sleepy.UUCP (Pat Eyler   )
Newsgroups: news.groups
Subject: Re: RFD: soc.religion.biblestudy moderated
Summary: maillist
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:07:57 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

In article <1993Jan7.161927.4817@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, nadeau@bnr.ca (Rheal Nadeau) writes:
> In article <1iftqkINN77t@rodan.UU.NET> nelson@paradyne.com (Bill Nelson) writes:
> >A Bible study is normally a book-by-book or topical study of 
> >various portions of the Bible.
> I would think a mailing list would be more suited to this approach than
> a newsgroup. 
>        The Rhealist - nadeau@bnr.ca - Speaking only for myself


     A mailing list would also allow expansion a group of related lists
( one OT, one NT, and one Apocryphal (or similar) ), and if suffiecient
traffic were generated a strong case could be made for a newgroup.  The 
mailing list could be moderated, and would be easier to institute.

            Pat Eyler   pat@sleepy.boeing.com


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