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From: ianking@nnsgs50 (Ian King)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 beta to be released 12-28 to EVERYONE!!
Date: 23 Dec 1992 14:49:42 GMT
Organization: Northern Telecom Europe Ltd
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: From article <BznGBp.5xE@utdallas.edu>, by goyal@utdallas.edu (MOHIT K GOYAL):
: >      December 18, 1992
: > 
: >      IBM is initiating a Beta program for OS/2 2.1 and the OS/2 2.1
: >      Toolkit.  The code is being made available for testing and
: >      development feedback purposes only, and should NOT be used in
: >      production.
: >      The purpose of this Beta program is to get input from key
: >      constituents that will be integrated into the final software
: >      product, enabling us to deliver the highest level of quality,
: >      compatibility, and function in this world-class product.
: >      Notice of this Beta program will also be posted on CompuServe,
: > 
: >      DESCRIPTION
: > 
: >      This Beta contains several enhancements to the award-winning
: >      OS/2 2.0 code, including support for Windows** 3.1 applications,
: >      multimedia, a 32-bit graphics engine, expanded SVGA, XGA,
: >      printer and CD-ROM support for industry standard devices as
: >      well as fixes to customer reported problems.
: > 
: >      PREREQUISITES
: >      -  Requires a test system capable of executing OS/2 Version 2.0
: >      -  Requires a minimum of 42MB of DASD for a full install
: >      -  Requires a minimum of 32MB of DASD for a default install
: > 
: >      ORDERING INSTRUCTIONS
: > 
: >      For customers without local branch office support or remote
: >      customer locations, the Beta will be available on CD-ROM by calling
: >      1-800-3IBMOS2, available in the United States only.  Customers will
: >      be charged a fee of $15 to cover shipping and handling.  This Beta
: >      program will end on February 28th, 1993.
: > 
: > 
: >      Support for customers without local branch office support will
: >      be provided on CompuServe and in the OS2BETA CFORUM on the OS/2
: >      BBS.

I dont suppose this applies to the UK?

Regards...
.........Ian
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From: chris@cad.gatech.edu (Chris McClellen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Opinion: What IBM should change in OS/2
Date: 30 Dec 1992 13:26:18 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
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In <725718966marten.marten@feki.toppoint.de> marten@feki.toppoint.de (Marten Feldtmann) writes:

>In article <1hq4dbINNsvs@cae.cad.gatech.edu> chris@cad.gatech.edu (Chris McClellen) writes:

>>I would like to know all the capabilities of the system without having
>>to order Redbooks.  Hell, DOS came with a manual.  I know OS/2 would

> Perhaps IBM should at least put the Redbooks as Online documentation
>into the base package or split the base package into two packages:

> a) one as usual (but with the Redbooks online, with means at least two
>    additinal discs, which increases the price again .. :-( )
> b) one with extra printed manuals and therefore much more expensive ... ?

Either one.  Like I said, people should be able to read about what
the OS can provide for them, without having to hunt down obscure
part codes, etc.  Unix, for instance, comes with manauls (quite a few),
andmost of the variants have separate volumes for each facet: file system
services, memory services, network services, etc, so a programmer,
or whatever, can read about what the system can provide them.  When
a programmer reads it, he/she can code an app (more than likely) which
can take advantage of the system.  When all you do is give out instructions
on how to work the mouse, and what some of the utilities are,
would be OS/2 programmers cant write anything.  If they get a PD compiler
(such as emx), with no manual, all they can do, is write Dos programs,
that are OS2 execuatbles, if that.

That is one major reason I think IBM should give out the redbooks with
OS2 in some form without making it complicated in any way to get them,
so people who may want to develop OS/2 don't have to spend lots of time
looking for books that will tell them about what OS2 can do, from
maybe a technical viewpoint, and one for the typical user as well.

The online documentation they have NOW is not even sufficient.  They need
to document ALL the files, etc, and what they do, even the DLLs, and
the .SYS files, so you can remove excess baggage, or add features
to your system as time progresses.

Also, it keeps us from posting simple questions and getting obscure answers
that cannot be found in what little OS2 documentation we got.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: OS/2 and Logitech mice?
Keywords: Logitech, mouse
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 00:32:03 GMT

I've been using a Logitech 3-button mouse with os/2 for quite a while
with no problems.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
                        Happy Holidays to ALL!!!
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.misc:40802 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:34554
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: EISA/MCA *or* Local Bus? Which is better for multitasking?
Date: 1 Jan 93 17:21:09 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

IBM has stated numerous times it will be delivering a LocalBus/MCA
dual architecture machine (or two :-)) in the near future.  It is not
yet clear whether that LocalBus design will be VESA or Intel PCI, but
it will be one of the two.

I wouldn't exactly call MCA dead, by the way.  It has a far larger
market share than EISA (with no sign of change there; perhaps the
opposite, in fact), and it is part of the third (or second, depending
on whose figures you believe) best selling workstation line (the IBM
RS/6000).  It is available from third parties, notably NCR and Reply.

While I'm on this subject, LocalBus isn't the only new bus
architecture vying for a place.  PCMCIA is also in the running, and
you'll see machines from IBM (both desktop and notebook) with PCMCIA
slots.  They each have a place.

I should also mention that several vendors (IBM and Compaq, notably)
have had "LocalBus" video adapters for some time.  By placing the
video on the motherboard these manufacturers did not have to worry
about AT bus limitations.  (True LocalBus, of course, offers up to
three slots, which means the video circuitry can be replaced and still
stay local.)

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of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: viruses in OS/2-environment
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:30:08 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Dec21.125223.1@esat.kuleuven.ac.be> tytgat@esat.kuleuven.ac.be writes:
>I'm looking for information (books, articles, news-items...) about the
>spread of virusses in an OS/2-environment : have any infections (DOS or
>OS/2 viruses) been reported yet ; what's the impact of compartmentalisation
>on the infection power of DOS-viruses ; how is this compartmentalisation
>actually realised within OS/2, etc. ...

I have a bit of information on viruses under OS/2 in the OS/2 FAQ List
-- please start there.

There are virus scanners available for OS/2 native mode, notably IBM's
and the McAfee SCAN utility.  McAfee CLEAN is also available (at least
in beta).

-- 
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From: msaletni@jade.tufts.edu (Michael J. Saletnik)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Filtering the files shown in a folder
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:16:22 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

>only want to see the file with a given extension

Easy.  To make things easy, start by using the Drives object, and work
your way to the directory in question.  Make a shadow of this
directory/folder on the desktop.  Close up the drives object.

Now, open the settings for your new shadow.  In reality, since it's a
shadow, you're changing the settings for the real directory.  Go to
the [include] tab and change the '*' to whatever you'd like.

>unless I command otherwise

This is the hard part.  Has anyone found a way to have, in the same
sense of a program object referencing a program, a folder object that
can *reference* another folder/directory with different settings?

						Michael

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: CMS 250 for OS/2
From: cvetp036@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:28:22 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvetp036

I need some info concerning the new CMS tape backup program for OS/2.

I have a CMS 250 attached to my floppy controller.

Now will the Sytos software work or do I need a dedicated card like the FC-10?

I don't care if I have to format my tape as Sytos compatible only. I won't be
mixing DOS and OS/2 files anyway. I just need a way to back up all my files on
my OS/2 HPFS partition in the background under OS/2.
From: rkimmel@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Kimmel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Accessing the com port when in use...
Date: 2 Jan 93 09:37:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1i3nooINN105
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

In article <1i38ndINNkno@shelley.u.washington.edu> rkimmel@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Kimmel) writes:
>In article <1993Jan1.232235.23928@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>In article <1huj16INNc50@shelley.u.washington.edu> rkimmel@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Kimmel) writes:
>>>Is there a way to access the com port when I'm using it with another    
>>>program?  While running HyperAccess/5 on com 2, I would like to be able
>>>to use HSLink to do file transfers.  Is there some trick I can do to make
>>>this work?
>>
>>As of Version 3.0, HA5 supports the sharing of COM ports using a
>>command line switch.  See your HA5 3.0 manual for details.
>>
>>-- 
>>Timothy F. Sipples      | Read the OS/2 FAQ List 2.0h, available from
>>sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/info
>>Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
>>of Chicago, 60637       | [Read the List, THEN post to ONE OS/2 newsgroup.]
>
>Unless I'm doing it wrong, it only works for external OS/2 Dos apps, Not the msdos emulator.
>
>

Not to mention it won't even recongnise my com ports for some reason.  And
my manuals are a few states away.
From: robert.heuman@rose.com (robert heuman)
Subject: Internet is too big..
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:30:11 GMT
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Date Entered: 12-22-92 22:22
In article <1gt8mbINN5ns@agate.berkeley.edu> stanton@haas.berkeley.edu 
(Richard Stanton) writes:
R(> >> In article <1992Dec18.101853.22386@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
R(> >> >IBM in the US probably can't handle to volume - and cost - of the Internet
R(> >> >problems...besides, they want these things to be done locally by the national
R(> >> >versions of the various IBMs......

But I'm in Canada, and here MicroSoft Canada required me to join 
CompuServe when beta testing Windows 3.1, which meant Microsoft Canada 
was cut out of the picture....

And IBM Canada often refers the problems on to the US anyway, as that 
is where the specific product is supported... and the other way 
around, when IBM Canada is the support facility.  So what does 
CompuServe have to do with it?  BTW, can anyone tell me how to cancel 
out of CompuServe when I cannot even remember my customer account 
number with them?

Someone mentioned the OS/2 2.1 beta in today's postings.... When can I 
get it in Canada, and who do I call?  I do NOT want it on CD ROM, BTW.
10% of the North American user base is NORTH of the US border, and I 
figure we deserve the right to provide out 2 (Canadian) cents worth on 
Betas as well as all you southerners.  We'll end up buying 10% or more 
of it in the end... (or will we?????)
 
Bob
 
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From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Serial I/O cards?
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 21:16:28 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

SPGJAF@CMSA.Berkeley.Edu (Joseph A. Faracchio) writes:

> Does that Boca board use any of the higher IRQs above 7?
>  
> In the same vain.  Does anyone know of a 2 serial board that enables you
> to set COM3/4 to IRQs 10,11,15 etc (i.e. the little used IRQs of a 16 bit
> adapter)????

The BOCA card I have does not go that high, but they have another 
multi io card that can use the higher IRQs.



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From: chris@cad.gatech.edu (Chris McClellen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Trident drivers and ATI card
Date: 30 Dec 1992 16:09:07 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
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In <ignacij.725747191@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu> ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal) writes:

]I am having problems in using the Trident drivers on my ATI card. First,
                                                         ^^^^^^^^
]I installed tri32new.zip over the vga800 generic driver, and still the old


Possibly, where those drivers made for TRIDENT TVGA cards, instead
of ATI cards?

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: btaber@netcom.com (Brian Taber)
Subject: SYS3176 when opening Dos box under CSD OS2 2.0.  What?!
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 15:44:58 GMT


I had these 3176 errors with 2.0 and fixed them with one of either:

DOS_RMSIZE=624
HW_ROM_TO_RAM on
Making the DOS box open minimized.
Installing IBM's VSVGA fix into C:\OS2\MDOS

Wasn't the CSD supposed to correct this problem? None of the old solutions
makes any difference now.

Has this problem been solved, or should I call IBM for help?


Brian Taber
btaber@netcom.com
From: ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Getting IRQ2 to work
Date: 30 Dec 1992 22:19:36 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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In article <mHoLwB1w165w@tcscs.UUCP> zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com writes:
>
>I have one more question though.  It was explained to me a while back that
>IRQ3 would be answered first if IRQ3 and IRQ4 both had data coming in, and
>to solve a problem where moving the mouse would abort a download because
>the mouse was on IRQ3, and the mode on IRQ4.  
>
>Now, if my COM3 is on IRQ2, redirected as IRQ9, then will its interupt
>be taken first because IRQ2 comes before IRQ3, or will it be treated as IRQ9,
>coming after IRQ5 in the order of hierchy.

priority
IRQ0
IRQ1
IRQ2
	IRQ8
	IRQ9
	IRQ10
	IRQ11
	IRQ12
	IRQ13
	IRQ14
	IRQ15
IRQ3
IRQ4
IRQ5
IRQ6
IRQ7

It will be taken as IRQ9, and because of the AT setup, it will come
before IRQ3,4,5,6,7

>
>Thanks
>Greg
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From: gregb@gout.austin.ibm.com
Subject: MPU Support for MMPM/2
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:57:25 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: gregb@pro-lep.cts.com
Organization: IBM Austin

I learned (through an external source) last night that IBM *does*
have someone in Boca working on an MPU driver for MMPM/2.  He
mentioned that he had a deadline, but not what it was :-)  This means
that there's hope.

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Delta Music Systems                             Austin, TX
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Just consulting.   Not an employee.   Not representing IBM
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: weiss@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: ADaptec 1542B doesn't work--hints?
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:23:53 GMT

I just bought an Adaptec 1542B so I could reinstall and USE OS2 with the
added storage of my 90MB Bernoulli.

It doesn't work for me--I get a "SYS 0026 The specified disk...cannot be
accessed" when I change to the scsi drive (Bernoulli) and do a "DIR" inside
an OS2 window. OS2 accesses the drive--it whirs during boot --but doesn't
see the files on there already. It was formatted with Adaptec's AFDISK.

My boot drive is an RLL. The Adaptec is set to BIOS DISABLE (so as to use ASPI
drivers in DOS), INT 11, SCSI ID 5, LUN 0, i/o address 330, host adaptor:7
and DMA 5. It's set to 5 mb/s DTR, and EVERY possible conflicting card has
been removed from my system--an 8MB 386-25 uncached clone--to no avail.

This is quite frustrating since the 1542B SHOULD work.

What might I be doing wrong?
Thanks,

__jeffrey weiss
From: gkushmer@jade.tufts.edu (Greg Kushmerek)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: New Tri32 does not work with DeScribe very well
Date: 31 Dec 92 05:07:56 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Roger Mellie Enterprises, PLC

I just installed the "new an improved" Trident 32 bit drivers without
a hitch.  Generally, the new drivers work great - Joel's generic
drivers allowed for faster scrolling in a window, but I love having
seamless Windows drivers.

But there is one problem - Trident's drivers do not jive 100% with
DeScribe 4.0.  Prior to installing the drivers, my horizontal and vertical
scroll bars had ruler markings.  Now, the markings are invisible.

Moreover, the leftmost line control arrows on the vertical bar disappeared too.

I really want to keep these drivers if I can, but I need DeScribe more than
I need the 32 bit drivers.  Any suggestions?

Cheers,

--gk

Greg Kushmerek
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: gurganus@pasture.ecn.purdue.edu (J Gurganus)
Subject: Re: OS/2 and Logitech mice?
Keywords: Logitech, mouse
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:32:43 GMT

twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:

> ...
>Logitech driver hence doesn't know about the middle button. Even under a
>DOS window, full screen or otherwise. I can't even load my DOS Mouse driver
>in my DOS window where my mouse doesn't work at all.

>But for most people, all you need is the left and right button for OS/2
>and the generic drivers will work with Logitech mices just fine.

>Thomas.

I'm using a Logitech Trackman with OS/2.  The only complaint
that I have is that my MIDDLE button is now the RIGHT button
and I think the RIGHT button has become the MIDDLE button.
Since I run OS/2 almost full time now, getting used to it
wasn't a big problem.  However, if anyone knows how to make it
work the right way, preferably with all three buttons, let me
know!  

Also, I have the before-mentioned problem that I can't
zoom across the screen...the pointer just kinda sits there and
wiggles around.


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From: heiser@acs.bu.edu (Bill Heiser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: disappearing cursor in TE/2
Date: 1 Jan 93 23:12:59 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: heiser@acs.bu.edu

Has anyone else noticed that the cursor disappears when using TE/2 on
UNIX systems?  For example right now I'm in Emacs typing this, and there
is no cursor.  Also (but less important) I notice that depending on what
application I use (i.e. vi/emacs, etc), the NumLock light is sometimes
on, and sometimes off!

This is TE/2 2.0 and OS/2 2.0, the standard distribution without the SP.

It happens both in OS/2 full-screen and window environments.

Bill
From: drori@gumby.Altos.COM (Ghiora Drori)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: IBM has to much money, or OS/2 as a cash cow.
Keywords: Cash Cow
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:52:31 GMT
Reply-To: drori@altos.COM (Ghiora Drori)
Organization: Altos Computer Systems, San Jose, CA

On Oct 12 I orderd OS/2 2.0 from IBM. As part of the deal I 
was to send in the title page of my Microsoft windows manaul.
Needless to say that I did so immidiatly after receiving my new
copy of OS/2. 

Yesterday I got a letter from IBM informing me that I had not sent
them the Windows title page; and threatning to collect $20.00 from my
credit card if they did not recieve it within 15 days.
So I called their toll free
number and was told that EVERYONE who bought the package in Oct 
has received the letter. I was also told that a representitve will
call me back within a week to discuss the matter.

Seems to me that IBM is about to make a bundle annoying their customers
and overloading their toll free number. (It took only five minutes to get
through.. )
From: baloo@nx01.mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Looking for file date toucher, better icon editor programs
Date: 31 Dec 92 08:07:06 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx01.mik.uky.edu!baloo

I'm looking for some shareware programs for icon editing that is better 
than the one that comes with os/2.  I would like one where you can get a
screen full of what the icons look like and select one to edit, delete
move around etc.  
Also looking for a file to touch the file dates of files.  I have touch.com
for dos but it won't work in os/2 for some reason.      
Thanks
Kevin Coupalanonymous
baloo@mik.uky.edu