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From: wang@cedar.nrl.navy.mil (Dennis Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.support.cancer
Subject: Leukemia (ALL)
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:30:30 GMT
Reply-To: wang@cedar.nrl.navy.mil
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Research Lab

Just a note about my 4 year old girl with ALL.  We have just survived a close call and have
just returned from two weeks in the hospital, three days of which was in the ICU.

The initial cause for checking into the hospital was a fever with no cold symtoms.
Her temperature was about 100 in the morning, 102 after lunch and by evening we
checked in to the hospital (6 pm Sat).  It didn't seem too serious.  She ate pizza and
played games until about 8pm.  shortly after starting antibiotics, her fever rose to
105.3 in half an hour.  She went into convulsions and then respiratory arrest.  They
called a Code Blue to get her into the ICU.

  The next day, with the fever more under control they tried removing the respirator that was doing her breathing.  After 5 hours off the respirator she again went into respiratory arrest.  After another day they removed the respirator again and she
finally breathed on her own.

We have spent the last week worried about brain damage due to the respiratory arrests,
at times she seem very bad off.  She had forgotten how to eat (no chewing or swallowing). Repeated hand motions, head and hand tremors, catatonically not moving for hours and other frightening actions or non-actions often associated with mental 
problems really scared us.

I am happy to say that her condition really perked up in the last 3 days and I am
very hopeful of a complete recovery.  She is now walking, talking and recognizing
people, places and things again.  We went home today.

There perhaps three morals to this story:

1. Parents are important.  The fever was so fast, a nurse in a regular ward probably
never would have seen it in time to save my little girl.

2. Even little fevers are important! Do not take chances!

3. If you have respiratory arrest do it near an ICU (in this first case) or while
the head of the ICU is examining you (in the case of the 2nd arrest).

Kudos go to Fairfax Hospital, Fairfax VA




Organization: Doctoral student, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:51:47 -0400 
From: Kathryn Brennan <kb3i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re:  What about those lousy skinny people?

In article <1935p4INNcch@agate.berkeley.edu> mossman@sag1.ssl.berkeley.edu () w
rites:
>only about 5 pounds. Can someone please explain to me how to get it through 
>the thick but loveable skull of a non-dieter how to be supportive? Telling
>me "You are fat" is just getting a bit tiresome.
>
>Amy Mossman
>Center for EUV AStrophsyics

>As far as eating is concerned, encourage him to set a good example
>around you, at least.  If he's stuffing his face in front of you, it's
>just going to make you jealous (not to mention hungry).  Get him
>involved in choosing lowfat, low-calorie, nutritious meals, rather than
>just slapping you around, physically and emotionally. 

I have a problem.  I'm on the other side of the story.  I try to
encourage my fiance to change his eating habits (and to cut down on
certain foods)...  I know he would love to be thinner (if only it were
that easy) -- but he doesn't seem able to commit to working at it.  I
try to be supportive by not having 'junk' food in the house and by
eating healthy dinners, etc.  But often what happens is that I end up
watching what I eat more than he does!  I do not have a weight problem,
so sometimes I resent being in this position.  On the other hand, if I
were to just eat whatever I wanted, he would follow suit as well...  (if
I were to buy potato chips for myself, then he would probably end up
eating 2/3rds of the bag and me 1/3rd...).  

I know its not my responsibility to try to control my fiance's weight,
but sometimes I feel that if I don't do it, he won't either.  He has
tried dieting many times, and, although he can lose the weight, he
usually gains most of it back.  But now that we're living together, I
keep hoping that he will give it one more 'real' try -- because I am
willing to try to support him every step of the way (I will even diet
with him).  How can I be the most supportive without nagging?  How can I
try to motivate him?  I know that he has to want to do it himself, but I
still can't resist making subtle suggestions.  

-Kate
From: scotti@mtl.mit.edu (Gretchen Fuller)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Chris' Concoctions...
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:32:31 GMT
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories


Welcome, and thanks for the recipe.  It sounds great, and also it 
doesn't have any added sugar beyond the fruit so I can actually eat
it.  Desserts are the hardest things to come up with.

Scotti
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: How do you walk that much?  (was Re: inspiration)
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:29:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Sep08.200517.29119@stiatl.salestech.com> klb@stiatl.salestech.com (Kathy Ball) writes:
>OK, Beth and Peter and anyone else who can do this, 
>how do you walk 9 miles a day?  I've been trying
>to exercise more, and I just run out of steam at about 3 miles of walking.
>
I didn't start out walking 9 miles a day--that's how much I've built
up to.  I also rarely do more than 5 miles at a time--I usually do
3 in the morning before work, 3 at lunch, and then 3 in the evening.
I also tend to walk "to the store" to run errands because I've never
been fond of walking without a destination.

I'm also *religious* with the headphones--I find that listening to good
music makes this very tolerable.  And, I really don't walk that fast.  If
I'm feeling good, I might work up to a 15-minute mile, but generally,
I keep the pace pretty slow.

>One more - what's a VLCD?  If it's Very Low Calorie Diet, I've been
>considering doing something medically supervised and rather severe
>just to get started so it's not so hard to move all this weight around.
>Is that a good idea?  How do you find a good doctor for such a thing?

Yes, a VLCD is low calorie.  I was on the same program as Peter (the HMR
program).  They are like Optifast, except they are hard-core when it
comes to physical activity, and they are very heavily focussed on 
a behavioral approach to maintaining weight loss.

Here's my opinion regarding liquid diets.  If you are really prepared to
change your eating and exercise habits (I mean really prepared), then a
liquid diet is a humane way to take off the weight.  There's minimal 
hunger and there's no obsessing with weighing and measuring and the
weight comes off fast (I averaged 4lbs a week for 5 months).

But HMR is like every other weight loss program around--they do not
really get at the underlying motivations for overeating, so it is not
a magic pill.  If you cannot control your eating, then a liquid diet
is just a faster yo-yo (and an expensive one at that).

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
Subject: Re: Wow! I can't believe the inspiration here! : )
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:55:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.090553.22742@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN) writes:
>In article <5502@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>,
>jsl+@pitt.edu (John S Lundberg) writes:
>>In article <22214@galaxy.ucr.edu> samari@watserv.ucr.edu writes:
>>>The reason why swimming is not goo for losing fat, is that the body
>>>is constantly losing heat in the water, and it needs the added
>>>insulation to keep it warm.
>>
>>I have to wonder about this...it seems to me that if your body
>>is losing heat in the water that that heat must come from somewhere.
>>Also, swimming places little strain on the joints in contrast to
>>activities such as running which may be a plus for someone who is
>>carrying extra weight.
>>
>This is a fact.  There was a recent study, last year, done at
>Stanford, that said that swimmers in CA, especially women, had an
>extra layer of fat cause the weather is cool and most of the pools
>are not heated.
>

I don't know where you swim but every public or university pool I've swum in,
including several in California, has been heated to about 90 degrees 
Fahrenheit.  Swimming coaches have told me that it is best to swim in water
close to body temperature.

Now, people swimming in their backyard pools probably don't keep them near
warm enough.  And most backyard pools are too short to get a good workout
in - you end up resting a lot on turns.

In addition, one thing I've read is that swimming is good for losing fat if
you swim well, but that most people just aren't proficient enough at swimming.
This seems to be consistent with my experience - I've always lost weight
easily when I was doing a lot of swimming without particularly paying any
attention to what I was eating and this was particularly true when I was
backstroking and less true when I was breastroking (which I'm not as good at).
There's no question that there's considerable cardiovascular benefit from
swimming (as with any aerobic exercise), but that you also need to do some
weight-bearing exercise (e.g. walking) to promote bone density, which is
important to women to prevent osteoporosis.  To me, there is nothing quite
so mentally refreshing as swimming, though.  Somewhere after the first couple
of hundred yards, I hit a rhythm where everything just fits together
effortlessly and my mind is free to really focus on the other stuff in my 
life.  My major inspiration for my Ph.D. thesis and several of my best stories
have come about in that state.  (Unfortunately, I no longer live close enough
to a public pool with convenient hours to swim as regularly as I'd like to.
But when I lived in a building with a pool, it was really easy to motivate
myself to exercise and I couldn't wait to get home to my daily 1/2 mile.)


Miriam Nadel
From: GC.AVW@forsythe.stanford.edu (RAGIN CAJUN)
Subject: Re: How do you walk that much?  (was Re: inspiration)
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 14:04:00 GMT

In article <24746@oasys.dt.navy.mil>,
dudley@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Karen Witkoski) writes:
>In alt.support.diet, klb@stiatl.salestech.com (Kathy Ball) writes:
>>mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur) writes:
>>>..................  So I started walking.  And I'm still walking--usually
>>>I do 9 miles a day (3x3).  According to my calculations, I have
>>>lost about 60 pounds since January, just from the walking alone.
>
>I love to walk.  I had an operation in February of this year.  As soon
>as the doctor said that it was OK to exercise again I started walking.
>I even got my husband and son in a routine (until the weather got hot
>and humid).  Then we quit.  I realize that I felt better and lost weight
>after walking only 30 to 45 minutes' four days a week.
>
>My problem is that my heels hurt so badly after walking.  Not immediately
>afterwards.  But after sitting for a while, then trying to get up, oooooh
>what pain.  I'm not sure why my heels hurt.  Does anyone have any comments?
>I bought good walking shoes that are well padded.  But this hasn't helped.
>I'm only 36 years old...not too old yet :).
>
>Karen

I have a lot of weight to lose and I am diabetic, I have been
walking about 5 weeks now.  I tend to overdo, I love to walk and
want to get up to 9 miles a day.  But I get the worst pain in the
bone on the ankle of the left foot.  I guess it is what people
describe as, I think they are called shin splints.  It is very
painful and I could hardly walk on Friday.  Can anyone explain what
this is and what caused it and how to stop it from happening.

Thanks Alma
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From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: Advice wanted on sandwich spreads
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 08:02:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)


Another good sandwich spread is ripe avocado.

David
Organization: Student Employment Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:13:36 -0400 
From: Judi Mancuso <jm5p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Winning, losing & surviving the battle

Tom wants to know about resisting temptation, getting frustrated,
feeling miserable--all that stuff that goes along with
life.......there's no better place to ask but here....and Tom asks that
replys post (I assume this is what he means)...okay before I empathize
and all that.....let me say--Tom, you are an inspiration and a
tremendous asset to this bboard.  Now, on with it.
> 
>..............................................  I was SO SICK OF
>BEING GOOD AND STICKING TO MY DIET I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO SCREAM.
> 
>I began to cry.  Right there in the Safeway.  This provoked my wife to
>pick up a bag of Ore-Idas, toss them in the basket and storm off.  I
>boo-hooed even harder.

Yeah, feeling this way just about kills you---it was probably the RIGHT
thing to do--to give way to your feelings and go with them then get on
with it--which you did--and are probably happier for it.  But, there is
nothing worse than being so perfect then to find yourself wanting to be
awful and disgusting.  We are all like this---some days it's food, other
days it's our spouses, other days it's ourselves--we are a bunch of
kids!  Really, though, being good all the time is sort of
nauseating--rewarding but sometimes nauseating and it sends us over the
edge.  
But, how about if we are good all the time (diet wise) and really do
stay on a program and do loose those unwanted pounds---does that mean
that we are now eternally "good" and doing ANYTHING or thinking ANYTHING
that isn't "good" is really defeating us---sounds kind of rigid?????? 
Anyway, my point is this--we better be extra generous with ourselves
while we are trying SO DAMN HARD --we should allow for some "illegal"
moments--and not feel cheated or guilty---it will only lead us to
frustration.  Hey, this loosing weight is tough enough.  Right now, I am
looking for a NEW DECADENCE that will take the place of food in my life.
 Any ideas?   
In closing, Tom, I really applaud your honesty---to admit you cried in
Safeway is really a way of supporting those of us who have been there
and just figured we were the only ones........Onward, Tom!   Judi
From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Maintaining?  Not quite...
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:47:29 GMT
Organization: Titan Linkabit Corp., San Diego


Huzzah for me!  I didn't eat the cookies today!!  The "dessert cart" that
peddles cookies, pie and other fat pills didn't tempt me because I 
slipped out this afternoon to buy non-fat yogurt and an iced-coffee
ahead of time.  Better than eating two of those "lard-laden macadamia
nut, double chocolate with extra fat cookies" I've gotten into the
habit of eating.  And you know, I felt really satisfied with the yogurt.

My story:

Last year, over the course of 9 months I lost 60 pounds on Nutri-Systems.
I never felt like they were the greatest solution but I needed
something structured in order to do it.  Somehow paying exhorbitant sums 
of money also provided some added incentive.

During the course of my N.S. experiece I began reading about nutrition
and Very Low Fat Diets, VLFD, (hey I just invented another anacronym 
-- Oh boy!). Once I got off NS I began to retrain my tastebuds and brain 
to enjoy lowfat foods.  I also got one of those computerized nutrition 
analyzers ("Diet Analyst") and analyzed what I was eating.  I've never 
been good about keep a food diary, but I would do it off and on with the 
computer program just to see what sort of nutrients I was lacking in my diet.
Also, I've always been a creative and experimental cook and learning how
to cook great food, non or low fat, was a fun and interesting challenge.
Sometimes I feel like a mad scientist in the kitchen.  (I'll post 
recipes once I get news truly working on this network).

But it's been a year since reaching my goal (actually under my goal!) and
I've put on 10 pounds. :(

At this +10 pound point I am trying to take back control -- I've still
been eating VLFD with a few minor slips -- but I can put away a lot of
non-fat Enteman's and frozen yogurt and though it may not be AS fattening
it still seems to put the poundage on me.

Also, I suffer with a intermittent bad back, mean old knee and cranky neck
so sometimes it just isn't easy to exercise.  I'm getting better though!!!

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I went for a 26 mile "urban hike" over
Labor day weekend and found that I gained 5 pounds even though I ate
fairly well.  But the walking seemed to strengthen my knee (although I hurt
my feet instead) so now maybe I can start getting really serious about
walking again.  I hope to walk 4 miles at least one day this weekend.

Anyway, I LOVE this group for the support and ideas.

Tom, my (chef's) hat is off to you.  You're an amazing cook!  Your wife is
lucky.  And I KNOW how you felt in the super-market... I get pretty rebelious
about structure too.  Just do your best and forgive yourself afterwards...
should you happen to slip.

Good luck everybody!


P.S.  Great news!  I read that some company is working on a fat substitute
that you'll even be able to fry in!  Can you imagine non-fat french fries?
From: jsl+@pitt.edu (John S Lundberg)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Dealing with unwelcome advice
Date: 6 Sep 92 01:03:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jsl@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu

Does anyone have any suggestions for dealing with individuals who
insist on providing unasked-for advice on one's diet?  I have a 
member of my family who has for at least the 1000th time given me
the information that the American diet is too rich in saturated
fats and that we should learn to eat like people who live in Third
World countries.  He means well and I do not want to alienate him
but I can't figure out how to get him to stop telling me things I
already know over and over again.  And given the tragedies in places
like Somalia, I hardly like to think about my situation using the
paradigm of the Third World anyway.  It's painful.

There's an air of implied moralism about his approach that I find
very difficult to deal with.  By world standards, or even by the
standards of much of the US, I am an affluent individual.  Am I
supposed to feel guilt or something at my $100 Nikes and $3 Healthy
Choice dinners?  

I seem to remember a line from _Witches of Eastwick_ (the book)
wherein one of the characters says that some days she can get by
only by saying, silently, "screw you" to every person she meets
on the street.  (Updike used a different word but I'm sure you
get the point.)

Maybe I'm just feeling peevish and need to go for another walk.
-- 
John Lundberg  
jsl@unix.cis.pitt.edu
From: alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (Amy Young Leith)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: weirdness and weighing in
Date: 5 Sep 92 03:06:13 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <63620020@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks) writes:
>Being somewhat prone to extremes (standard smiley here :-), I've
>noticed some weight gain after a week of *heavy* exercise.  More
>specifically, if my exercise calories increase by 3000 or so for the
>week, I will usually have some additional weight.  Some of that is
>food, but I'm told that heavily exercised muscles tend to retain
>water (until they acclimate? Don't know.).

Also, muscle is more dense, and therefore weighs more, than fat.  So,
if you are exercising in a fashion that is actually building muscle,
you'll seem to gain weight sometimes. 

amy
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From: jnorberg@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Advice wanted on sandwich spreads
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:59:56 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Sep9.165406.1186@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca>, liana@nexus.yorku.ca (Liana Becker) writes:
> When it comes to what to put on a sandwich I skip the butter or margerine
> altogether and use a low fat mayo.  My husband never noticed when he
> stopped getting butter and he can't tell the difference between the
> low fat or fat free mayo on a sandwich.  Mustard is another good sandwich
> spread and I'll sometimes use salsa with turkey.
> 

If you are a Miracle Whip fan, try Kraft Free Mircale Whip.  It's a by far
superior tasting product (IMHO) than Kraft Free 'Mayonaise' and makes a great
tasting dressing for potato/macaroni salads.
-- 
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From: lgold@callahans.Cadence.COM (Lynn Gold)
Subject: I just got back from vacation...
Organization: /mnt4/lgold/.organization
Distribution: alt
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 05:05:50 GMT

...and I didn't gain a pound!

I didn't LOSE any weight either, but when all your food comes from
meals out and grazing at parties, it's easy to gain weight.

How did I do it?  I'm not sure.  Maybe it was my frequent use of
stairs to avoid having to use the (slower due to frequent use)
elevators.  Maybe it was because I walked whenever possible because it
was too much of a hassle to get out the rental car for short
distances.  Maybe because I tried to keep my eating down to mostly
nibbling on fruits, cheese, and because I couldn't eat all the
wonderful junk food I saw (hypoglycemia has its benefits :-) ).  Maybe
it's because I decided it would be more fun to take home some of those
bottles of beer and champagne splits instead of consuming them at the
parties I attended.

I'm not sure exactly which of these, if any, helped, but only once
before have I ever gone on vacation and not gained an ounce.

--Lynn
P.S.--I wonder whether I'd have lost weight if one of the vendors
hadn't given me a large REGULAR Pepsi instead of diet Pepsi, insisted
it WAS diet Pepsi when I took it back, thus causing me to go into
insulin shock and have to nibble Saltines all Friday afternoon,
consuming several hundred more calories than I normally would have....
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