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From: skar@plains.NoDak.edu (Keith Skar aka Roddy)
Subject: Re: X-Mas TV that we all used to love
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:25:56 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Nov6.211705.13964@emr1.emr.ca> lskinner@emr1.emr.ca (Lauren Skinner) writes:
>Does anyone know who the singer was in HOW THE GRYNCH STOLE CHRISTMAS?
>
>Was it Howard Keel?
>
>Inquiring minds wanna know...

I think it was Boris Karloff

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From: r_miller@oz.plymouth.edu (Rebecca L. Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney,rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Xmas tv that we all use to love
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:54:41 GMT
Reply-To: r_miller@oz.plymouth.edu (Rebecca L. Miller)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.

The little elf's name was Herbie
 
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From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: BTAS: I am the Night
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 10:57:56 GMT

In article <mumble> walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:

>Other thoughts:
>It would have been interesting to have had Barbara Gordon in a wheelchair--
>obviously they couldn't have gone into why, but it would have added even
>more drama to the show, at least for the comics readers.  It also would
>have resonated nicely with her dad's situation.  Still, it was great to
>see the character used effectively without either making her Batgirl (shudder)
>or making her entirely helpless.

Barbara will become Batgirl later this season - I was beginning to
expect her becoming Batgirl in this episode when she started talking
about wanting to do something and make a difference but she didn't
even try and stop Jazzman when he was in the hospital room (I thought
she did come across as just a bit too helpless.)

>Ok, the kid hustling change was annoying (did anybody else think it was
>Michael J Fox?).  I guess I'll take it back down to five stars. :)

My friend and I thought the exact same thing!

We also liked Bruce's little rant about being a tourist attraction and
the Batman junk in the tourist store...always fun to see media figures
trashing their own merchandising.  8-)

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From: plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson)
Subject: Re: Robotech: Love it, Leave it, or Get out of the Way.
Organization: ACME Looniversity
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:59:34 GMT

	One thing that really tires me about the Macross/Robotech
dispute is that there's precious little discussion of the content or
the art of either series.  Instead, we get the usual litany of
complaints that Robotech is bastardized or mangled or (and this one
seems the most common) that the program MISREPRESENTS Japanese
animation.

	Kids, Macek's job was not to create a tribute to anime, so that
we unworthy Americans could worship the genre from afar.  His job was to
create -- admittedly at minimal expense -- an entertaining television
program.

	This, by the way, was also the intent of any original anime
production:  to entertain the viewing public.  

	Dan Parmenter's had some incisive comments about Robotech that
get to the heart of things (e.g., "Protoculture my ass!"), but I'm
still left unconvinced by either side... I only know the U.S. show, so
I can't compare the two.

	Would the next person to jump into this thread please defend
your evangelism of one (or both) programs based on some sort of
aesthetic argument -- e.g. the qualities of the direction, writing,
artistry, editing, etc. of the show -- rather than simply assuming
that we all agree Macross is some sort of Aristolean cave-painting and
Robotech is a ill-construed shadow of that ideal form?

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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
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Subject: Re: BTAS: two DYN's
Date: 6 Nov 92 07:49:03
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: rang@laputa.ics.uci.edu's message of 6 Nov 92 05:10:29 GMT

>>>>> On 6 Nov 92 05:10:29 GMT, rang@laputa.ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang) said:

rang> In article <1992Nov5.162057.1@cgsvax.claremont.edu> walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu writes:
>In "Dreams in Darkness," the doctor in charge of Arkham refers to the
>Joker as "Jack Napier."  I guess this means they're using the movie
>origin of the Joker.  Frankly, I prefer the comics version in which
>the Joker's real name and history are unknown (and hopefully always
>will be).  It adds to his horror if he's "the man from nowhere."
>Anybody prefer the Napier
>story?

rang> Urm.  The Jack Napier origin was used in "The Killing Joke" (a
rang> devestatingly good read IMHO), so I don't consider it
rang> necessarily from the movie.  Read it and feel sorry for a very
rang> much human Joker.

The Killing Joke origin, and movie origin are TOTALLY different. And
the name Jack Napier, or any name for that matter, was never used in
Killing Joke. The only thing that was the same, was when Joker fell
into the chemicals. That's it...
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From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Battle of the Planets
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:10:00 GMT

In <Bx9AxH.C8I@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.) writes:

>louis@ansoft.com writes:


>>He was wondering if anyone has the complete list of shows to
>>the 'Battle of the Planets' show.  For those of you who can't

[stuff deleted]

>>were Mark (airplane), ? (race car), Tiny (Main ship), 'Be-bop' (tank?),
>>and Ariel? ('Yo-yo craft').

>Mark threw a sort of bird-dart thing.

I don't remember this part, but I *think* it was a boomerang?  I talked about
this with someone else last year, but I forget....

>Ke-yop had some sort of bolo.

Cheop.  Yep, it was a bolo.  Or was it a yo-yo?

>Jason drove the race car.

And had a real nifty gun.

And Princess had a motorcycle and threw explosives or something....

>Zoltar was the great bad guy , who talked to some flaming face thing.
>actually, they once took of Zoltar's helmet, but something really strange
>happened, like the room lit up, and you couldn't see anything.

I don't think you ever got to see Zoltar's face.  But you did in the original
Japanese version, "Science Ninja Team Gatchaman".  He was actually a
Hermaphrodite with long blond hair.

>oh yeah, the narrator, 7 zark 7.  and his goofy robot dog.

They were added in by the Americans who adapeted it.  They had to edit out
a lot of violence, and adding 7-Zark-7 and 1-Rover-1 made up for the lost
time.


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From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: Re: AEON FLUX (Peter Chung) needs your support!
Keywords: aeon flux chung
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:33:39 GMT

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:

>In article <ed.721460307@cwis>, ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny) writes:
>> In an interview soon to be published in SOUND magazine, Peter Chung
>> expresses a need for letters of support for AEON FLUX to go to MTV.
>> See, MTV seems to be entertaining the idea of making a spinoff series
>> from LIQUID TELEVISION...but don't seem to know which avenue to take.
>[...]

>I don't know.  I'm not sure Mr. Chung can keep up with a half-hour a week.
>As it is, the animation in the latest segments is spottier than the previous
>season, and the stories even more disjointed.

He said he'd do five shows in the first season...and work up from there.

He'd have to have a higher budget, of course, to hire other animators to
work on it.  

I totally disagree with the "latest segments..." remark.  The current
season looks as good or better than the first and the stories being
disjointed has nothing to do with quality...it's more of an inside joke.

BTW...none of this season's AEON FLUX episodes tie together.  They all
stand on their own.  There are 5...2 have yet to be broadcast.  The only
way they'll fit together is if Chung comes up with a linker next season
(IF he does a next season).  He's currently working with Colossal to try
to fund a feature-length project that he says is much more off-the-wall
than AEON FLUX...perverse, surreal and semi-political.  Chung wouldn't
say much more than that.

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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 11:15:06 -0500 
From: Edward Liu <el24+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: BTAS: I am the Night
	<1992Nov10.065120.28369@midway.uchicago.edu>

In <1992Nov10.065120.28369@midway.uchicago.edu>, lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (Glenn
Carnagey) writes:
>BTW, anyone remember villians
>listed we haven't seen yet (besides Riddler, who's coming up)?
>Tomorrow looks like it includes every villian we've seen thus far, or
>most of them at any rate.

  The voice list (which I have unfortunately deleted *^&%$!@#$@!#) included
voices for:

	1.  R'as Al-Ghul and Talia, who have decidedly NOT appeared yet
	    (I remember a rumor that Denny O'Neil will be scripting the
	     episode)
	2.  Zatanna (OK, not a villian, but I want to see how they're gonna
	    bring magic into BTAS.)

   As for "I Am the Night," did anybody catch the police dispatcher saying that
the Jazzman was sighted at the corner of "Adams and O'Neil?"  That and Batman's
litany about his merchandising definitely made this the episode of the comics
in-joke (for those who don't know, Neal Adams and Denny O'Neil started the
Batman revival in the 70's).

   As for Barbara Gordon in the episode, she will eventually be appearing as
Batgirl, since she's included in her Batgirl costume in the _Batman Animated
Series_ Playing Cards (no, I'm not kidding, yes I really bought them).

-- Ed
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: BTAS: Bullock and Corrupt Cops
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:47:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: tc.1992Nov12.014733.23731
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime)
Organization: The Institute for Criminal Science, Gizmonics Control

Wasn't there an episode (the one that centered on Montoya, a rookie, and
Bullock) that had a corrupt policeman in it?  That's about as close as I've
seen to any evidence of corrupt cops in Gotham.  (Also, I think the Gotham
SWAT team got a bit out of hand at points in an early episode.)

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                            which rendered him incapable of distinguishing
                            Rocky and Bullwinkle from the evening news."

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From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: AEON FLUX (Peter Chung) needs your support!
Keywords: aeon flux chung
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:38:27 GMT

In an interview soon to be published in SOUND magazine, Peter Chung
expresses a need for letters of support for AEON FLUX to go to MTV.
See, MTV seems to be entertaining the idea of making a spinoff series
from LIQUID TELEVISION...but don't seem to know which avenue to take.
It seems obvious to me, and many others, that AEON FLUX is the obvious
choice for it's own series.  Chung says that if that happened, he'd
start off with five 30 minute episodes in the first season.  Imagine
that, 2.5 hours of AEON FLUX vs. the 24-28 minutes we have so far (6
episodes in season one...5 episodes will be shown for season two).
Chung urges you to write to MTV and tell them that you support the idea
for a spinoff series of AEON FLUX.  At any rate, the support will help
him get the funding he needs for more AEON FLUX episodes (a prospect
which is up in the air right now).  
 
While you're at it....tell MTV you want an AEON FLUX t-shirt...Chung
gave them a design awhile back but they've yet to do anything with it...

Here's the address to write to...
 
		MTV      
		c/o Abby Terkuhle
		1515 Broadway
		NY, NY  10036
 
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: btas: Almost got 'Im(joker's sidekick)
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:15:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxLJ24.8D6
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

fsrsg@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu writes:

>I seem to remember joker's sidekick as from an episode
>of the shorlived, but great television series "The Flash"!
>in one episode, there was a joker type character...
>is this woman the same character/voice as the one inthis
>flash episode?  I know this flash wasn't animation, but close
>enough...*grin*
>just can't seem to get that out of my mind!

>-r

Mark Hamill played the Trickster on the Flash (it apparently was a lifelong 
dream of his.  he even submitted a story idea to De Meo and Bison, and when
he heard the news on a script already in the planning stages, he campaigned
for all of two minutes before they snatched him yup, and hsi first gleeful
thought was "I get a Trickstermoblie!" his sidekick in the first episode he
was in was Prank.  She dressed like Jewelee of the Punch and Jewelee villians
from Suicide Squad, etc.   I haven't seen the episodes with Harley yet, but
I have noticed many similarities between the Flash live action, adn BTAS.
I realise that the first Batman film inspired much of the Flash (the retro
40's mix with 20 minitues into the future...) and even the scores of each 
series are incredibly similar, as Elfman did the Flash, and Elfman inspired 
whoever does the scores for BTAS.

Odd note, but any DC fans out there have episodes of the Flash and the 6
episode Human Target for trading?  I missed the Flash after it moved to Sat,
and I missed Human Target almost entirely except for the last episode.

thanx


LJC
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From: walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: XTAS: NOTS part 2
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Distribution: na
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:07:24 PST

In article <1992Nov8.004128.5724@netcom.com>, opcarr@netcom.com (Onny Carr) writes:
> We, are not impressed.

Ditto.

> 
> As Kevin said previously, the animation sucked big time.  Damn
> AKOM people again.  If any of you taped it, go to the part where
> the president is speaking over the TV.  Look who's looking over 
> behind Cyclops... Jubilee!  Isn't she supposed to be tied up
> somewhere?
> 
> Also, the Sentinels seem to vary in size from scene to scene.

I noticed this too. In the final fight scene, the sentinels landing next to
our heroes (snort) often looked to be about ten feet tall.   All of them lost
limbs and cames apart like they were made of Tinkertoys.  What happened to
the menacing robots who managed to actually *kill* an X-Man?  I guess the ones
back at base are designed to catch mutants who just have extra toes or
something.

> 
> The flight scene over the city is pure trash.
> 
> The Sentinels in this episode seem to be a lot easier to 
> destroy.  No wonder.  Made in Detroit.
> 
> I could do this all day.
> 
> -opc-
> 
Just aside from the animation flaws, the plot, dialogue, etc. was pretty bad.
Maybe there are just too many characters for a half-hour show: BTAS only
has to concentrate on Batman and the villain of the day, while this is
trying to cover a couple dozen characters.  The flashback technique was
used awkwardly, and for no good reason--why not just show what happened and
move on? 
And why was Jean Grey given so little to do?  Is there some reason that
somebody who reads th e comics could provide?
This was *not* worth waiting so long for.
Joe Walker
walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu

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From: opcarr@netcom.com (Onny Carr)
Subject: Re: XTAS: NOTS part 2
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 00:41:28 GMT

We, are not impressed.

As Kevin said previously, the animation sucked big time.  Damn
AKOM people again.  If any of you taped it, go to the part where
the president is speaking over the TV.  Look who's looking over 
behind Cyclops... Jubilee!  Isn't she supposed to be tied up
somewhere?

Also, the Sentinels seem to vary in size from scene to scene.

The flight scene over the city is pure trash.

The Sentinels in this episode seem to be a lot easier to 
destroy.  No wonder.  Made in Detroit.

I could do this all day.

-opc-
From: rutley1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Rob Utley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: BTAS : Voices (Was: Grey Ghost)
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:51:04 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.animation
Organization: Swarthmore College

In article <QeyRpLS00WB993WOUt@andrew.cmu.edu>, kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin
J. Chen) writes:
> 
> >Adam West was listed in the credits as the voice of the Grey Ghost.  It
> >seems to me that a lot of well known people are "doing voices" for BTAS.
> 
> Is it just me, or is there a frightening predominance of actors from
> LA Law doing BTAS voices?  We've already seen Diana Muldaur, Alan
> Rachins, and (from Wednesday) Richard Dysart.  Sheesh.  
> 
> BTW, one of the voice credits (I think it was Mr. Freeze) was given as
> Michael Ansara.  Why does that name sound familiar?
> 
> Kevin.
> 
> 

Hmmm, I'm pretty good at voice recognition but help me out as to the LA Law
voices. I guess that Clock King was either Dysart or Rachins, right? But
I'm not at all sure. If anyone can help me out, I'd appreciate it.
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: BTAS: Moon of the Wolf
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 01:05:15 GMT

dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>Len Wein wrote the episode...I wonder if he wrote the original story....
>     The soundtrack for this episode was a weird change of pace.  A sort of 
>pseudo-Queen electric guitar thing.  It fit the mood, in a jangled sort of 
>way.

The animation was really spotty.  The bat-thing would be a foot or so
away from batman on the ground, then suddenly about 20 feet away
swooping down at him.

And anyone notice the shirt?  It was utterly shredded by the
woman-bat, all that was left was the neck and a small triangle hanging
down.  Soon as she transforms back, all of a sudden the shirt is in
damned good shape. 
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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: x-men & mighty mouse
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:33:42 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

     Here's the official word on what's going on with the X-Men show, as
     well as why we'll be seeing reruns of the Ralph Bakshi Mighty Mouse.

     From "Variety," November 9, 1992:

     Fox Children's Network pulls 'X-Men'

     HOLLYWOOD: Despite a reasonably solid premiere, the Fox Children's
     Network has pulled its new animated series "The X-Men," and won't
     bring the show back until January.

     In the interim, the weblet has acquired rights to air off-net episodes
     of "Mighty Mouse," the Ralph Bakshi-produced animated revival that
     aired a few seasons back on CBS.

     "X-Men," based on the Marvel Comics heroes, is a pet project of FCN
     prez Margaret Loesch, who was president of Marvel Prods. before
     joining Fox.

     Produced by Saban Entertainment and CND in association with Marvel
     Prods., "X-Men" will air the second half of its two-part premiere
     [this article must have been written before November 7], but then
     disappear [sic] until Jan. 9, when Fox will repeate the first two
     episodes before starting with new shows.

     The first episode, which aired Oct. 31, drew an okay 3.6 rating/12
     share in households and similar numbers among kids aged 2-11, but it
     also attracted a whopping 44 share of male teens.

     [No author credited for this article.]

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From: ftw33616@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (.)
Subject: Re: BTAS: Poison Ivy and Catwoman ...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:25:07 GMT

firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) writes:



>Are Poison Ivy and Catwoman played by the same person, by any chance?
*grin*

with the exceptions of changing hair color and lipstick, it seems like
almost all women are played by the same person.  almost.


			- Frank
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: BTAS: Batman Water Bottle
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Originator: wmorgan@nemesis.stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:34:21 GMT

In The (Baltimore) Sun for November 8, 1992, there is an advertising
insert for Lionel Kiddie City Toys.  If one purchases a 'Batman
Returns' video, he also receives a free Batman water bottle.  The logo
is from BTAS, and the depiction of Batman is from BTAS.  I imagine
similar offers are available elsewhere.


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