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From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: Japanese Bible RE:
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:15:07 GMT

In article <Bs2w1C.935@world.std.com> cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond) writes:

: tygar+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug Tygar) writes:
: 
: >In article <kerry.712266236@manning> kerry@cs.UAlberta.CA (Todyruik Kerry D) writes:
: >>Volunteering your bible is a completely different case, here.  This, 
: >>I believe is inappropriate with any guests and especially in an 
: >>international exchange.  Hypothetically, Would you give your muslim 
: >>dinner guests a christian bible?  I doubt it!
: 
: >Well, National Security Adviser Robert McFarlane took a Bible autographed
: >by Ronald Reagan as a gift when he negotiated the arms-for-hostage deal
: >with the leaders in Tehran.
: 
: ....and that worked out swell!
: 
It depends on who you gave it to. The leaders are more thoughtful than the
student demonstrators. It tells you something about ISLAM. The original
New Testament and Old testament(torah), and Psalms(David) are holy books of
ISLAM. Of course we cannot use the current ones because we think that they
have been changed.
	Strangely, I am discouraged from giving koran translations to my
non-muslim friends. The idea is that the non-muslim must take the effort to
get the koran, to get better understanding of it.
 
--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
From: thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese street addresses
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:58:21 GMT
	<3587@fcs280s.ncifcrf.gov> <2103@aegis.or.jp>
	<HARKCOM.92Jul24080647@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>
Organization: Advanced Intelligent Communication Systems Lab.,Sendai,Japan
In-reply-to: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp's message of 23 Jul 92 23:06:47 GMT

In article <HARKCOM.92Jul24080647@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp> harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom) writes:

> Al
> --
> PS:	Our network will be down for summer vacation.  It should be back
> 	  up by August 4th...

Bon voyage to your network. Where does it go? :-)

Have a nice trip,

Thomas

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: Sexual fertility festival in Japan (for real?)
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 03:20:16 GMT

burress@twics.co.jp (Tim Burress) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul19.161219.2109@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.About 
|> writes:
|> > [About fertility shrines and festivals and general merriment]
|> 
|> Sure, this is real.  Fun, too.  And there are lots of related traditions.  It's
|> just a different way of treating sexuality:  celebration instead of guilt.  All
|> part of the great cycle of life in a culture that grew up close to the land.

There is a book entitled "The Pink Samurai" published this year, which
has a pretty detailed description of the fertility festivals. The book
seems to have an ambitious goal to research on Japanese approach to sex.


Steven
------
328. Seek opportunity, not security. ...
        - Life's Little Instruction Book by H. J. Brown, Jr.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: The Kuriles
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:50:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.141708.21283@acuson.com> miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman ) writes:

Couple of comments;

>	From "The Economist" of July 25-31:
>
>	"...Japanese foreign-ministry officials get hot under the collar
>	when asked about Japan's 1951 renunciation of its claim to the
>	Kuriles-which include Kunashiri and Etorofu.  To get Stalin to
>	attack Japan, the allies had promised the islands to the SOviet Union
>	at Yalta in 1945.  Reluctantly, Japan was forced to accept this
>	fact when concluding a peace treaty with America in 1951.
>
>	"Documents recently released in Washington apparently show that
>	the Americans changed their mind in 1956.  They sabotaged a peace
>	treaty being negotiated between Japan and the the Soviet Union by
>	threatening not to return Okinawa to Japan unless Japan insisted
>	on the return of all four islands.  To encourage Japan to remain at
>	odds with the Soviet Union, America has backed Japan's claim to all
>	four islands ever since.

Our "backing" of the claim seems relatively low-key; the last official
pronouncement I heard on the matter was that we "recognized that there remained
some issues of contention between Russia and Japan." This was hailed by the
Japanese PM as a "breakthrough", and viewed with much indifference by the
rest of the world.

I believe there was also a somewhat more recent statement to the effect that
"we generally recognize the importance of the territorial issue to Japan".

>	"It is rumored that Russia is thinking of referring the dispute
>	over the islands to the International Court of Justice in The Hague.
>	Because of Japan's renunciation of its claim to the two bigger
>	islands in 1951, Russia might get a favourable ruling.  Then the
>	price for their return would soar."

Recent reports from Russia indicate that they may recognize the 1956 proposed
treaty. BTW, the RUSSIANS (Soviets, actually) withdrew the treaty in 
reponse to the proposed US-Japan security agreement.

While Japan has attempted to pressure the Russians on this issue, the Russians
have become quite adept at pressuring back. They recently sold fishing rights
to S Korea off the islands. Japan protested, and was forced to a) pay some
compensation to both Russia and S Korea and b) grant fishing rights to 
S Korea in some Japanese waters.

Meanwhile, Japanese companies ARE moving in to (especially) Siberia for 
various joint ventures, particularly in the develpment of natural resources.

Mike
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From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Zen Story (6)
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:22:43 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research



=> >In article <6783@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@rodan.hri.com 
(Bill Lambert) writes:
=> >>*******************************************
=> >>One day a novice asked the Zen master *& %$,
=> >>
=> >>"Paul Shih posts Zen stories in soc.culture.japan....
=> >>what is his purpose?"
=> >>
=> >>The master answered, "Same as dog in yard."
=> >>
=> >>*******************************************

=> In article <1992Jul21.213253.5491@m5.harvard.edu> 
borden@m5.harvard.edu writes:
=> >I like the Zen stories!

=In article <3623@randvax.rand.org>, edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
=> So do I.  I think Bill's postings parodying them are in very poor taste.
=> Zen is, after all, a part of Japanese culture, so the Zen stories are in
=> the right place.

Actually, I enjoy the Zen stories too. But when one story has the Zen
Master chowing down on Sweet & Sour Pork, all bets are off. I do
believe the Zen sects in Japan are exclusively vegetarian. Perhaps
the Zen Stories shouldn't be taken as anything more serious than 
light entertainment. Profound insight into Zen thought, they are not.

=> My only problem with Paul's Zen stories is that it is sometimes hard to
=> map the Chinese names of the characters into their Japanese or Sanskrit
=> equivalent. (E.g., "Dar2-Mo2" is "Bodhidharma".)  Zen is certainly of
=> Chinese origin, but the names have become Japonified, and some of us
=> (especially, I'd think, in this newsgroup) are more familiar with them in
=> that form.

If you take it so seriously, then I apologize for any offense,
but I didn't learn anything more than I learned from re-runs
of "Kung Fu", which can also be entertaining.

Personally, I am a Judaic Unitarian Dharmic Episcopalian Di-Agnostic
(skepticism in half a God) Reformed Scientific Buddhist Druid New-Age
Roman Catholic Naturist. I also resent it when people parody my deeply
held religious beliefs.... which happens rather often, or not at all.
It's hard to know which.

I apologize, Ed.

- Bill Lambert
From: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Hotel in Tokyo.
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:29:07 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)

My travel agent in the US recommended the Sunshine City Prince Hotel
in Tokyo.  Is that any good?   She said that it would cost me $205.00
a night.  Do you have any other recommendations...

Thanks

Vijay


**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
            Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
**********************************************************************
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi)
Subject: Re: Results of Japanese players in Barcelona
Keywords: Olympics
Organization: DEC Japan Research and Development Center
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:12:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.162522.3199@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, asano@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ASANO Yoshiteru) writes:
# Hello, everyone in Japan.
# I'm in the Unived States and it's very hard for us to get info on actions of
# Olympians from Japan in Barcelona.  Someone in Japan, please keep us posted
# the results of the games which involves Japanese atheletes.

The Japanese baseball team defeated the Puerto Rico baseball team 9-0.
I hate it when they show the hilights in the middle of the night..
--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan          [from Japan: doi@dec-j.co.jp]
From: u8902989@cs.uow.edu.au (Chung Ming Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Japanese Animation (Subtitle, bilingual) ?
Keywords: Animations
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:54:21 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia


	I'm a real fun of Japanese Animation in Australia. However, most
	of the video available are either in Japanese or the American version.
	I'm just wondering are there any orginal Japanese Animations (recent
	release) contain English subtitle or may be bilingual ?

	Titles which I'm interested (LD or Video (NTSC or PAL) )!

	Patlabor (OVA and Movie) 
	Gundam 0083 (OVA)
	Silent Mobious (Movie)
	Macross II, etc

	Can anyone answer my questions ? or share common interest ?
	Thanks in Advance !

	Samuel Liu
	University of Wollongong, Australia.
	Department of Business Systems.
	Email Address:
	u8902989@cs.uow.edu.au

	Snail Mail Address:
	Samuel Liu
	43 Clanwilliam St,
	Eastwood,
	NSW 2122,
	Australia.
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Zen Story (6)
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:49:27 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research

In article <3625@randvax.rand.org>, edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall) writes:
> ............................If we are to take Zen at its word, no story
> offers "profound insight into Zen thought," since words and reason alone
> are incapable of showing the way to Enlightenment.  And this is the
> attraction of Zen for me, since there is much in human experience that is
> beyond language and intellect, and much else for which language and
> intellect are often needlessly interposed.

This sounds like SW engineer discussing need for spec. (^o^)

> Of course, none of this can be taken to be an "official" representation
> of Zen.  I'm strictly a dilettante.  However, it was Zen which drew
> me into an interest in Japanese culture in general, and it bothers me
> when it is misrepresented (though I have no doubt done that myself in
> this posting).

It bothered me also, which is the initial reason why I made some parody
of the Zen stories. Can you understand that?

- Bill


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRVowZj9OO1YbKEI=?=))
Subject: pro baseball 1992.07.27
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-2022-JP
X-Phone-Reply-To: 045-336-5358 (work)/045-320-0492 (home) [in Japan]
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation Japan, R&D center
Mime-Version: 1.0
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:43:42 GMT
X-Mts: smtp

Lions		47 - 24 - 2	....
Buffaloes	40 - 31 - 4	 7.0
Fighters	37 - 40 - 2	13.0
Blue Wave	33 - 42 - 2	16.0
Hawks		34 - 44 - 1	16.5
Marines		32 - 42 - 1	16.5

Swallows	39 - 33		....
Tigers		42 - 37 - 1	 0.5
Carp		40 - 37		 1.5
Giants		41 - 38		 1.5
Dragons		34 - 42		 7.0
Whales		34 - 43 - 1	 7.5

Destrade (Lions)	25	Komada (Giants)		17
Takahashi (Blue Wave)	22	Ikeyama (Swallows)	16
Akiyama (Lions)		21	Hara (Giants)		16
Boomer (Hawks)		21	Furuta (Swallows)	15
Bryant (Buffaloes)	20	Sheets (Whales)		14
Kiyohara (Lions)	18	Hirosawa (Swallows)	14
Winters (Fighters)	18
Ishii (Buffaloes)	16
Sasaki (Hawks)		14

The Swallows took three in a row from the Giants in the Tokyo Dome.
Nishimura, Okabayashi, and Takano won for the Giants.  Naitoh picked
up two saves.

The Fighters swept two games from the Lions.  Kaneishi won on Sunday
to improve his record to 11-4.

The Buffaloes took two from the Marines to move closer to the Lions.
Awano (3-3) pitched a complete game on Sunday for the win.

The Carp defeated the Whales 13-2 on Sunday and Kitabeppu improved
his record to 11-4.  The Carp took 2 out of 3 from the Whales and
moved into 3rd place.

The Dragons fell into last place for a day, but then defeated the
Tigers on Sunday to move past the Whales.  Morita pitched his first
ever complete game on Sunday.

--
Hitoshi Doi, International Open Systems Engineering        doi@jrd.dec.com
Japan Research and Development Center               decwrl!jrd.dec.com!doi
Digital Equipment Corporation Japan                     doi@decvax.dec.com
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Explanation
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:17:03 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1992Jul21.161745.19085@acuson.com> miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman ) writes:

>Have you ever wondered why it is that after you've carefully explained
>to someone (and the world) at _great_ length why he is completely wrong
>and would be well-advised to be guided by _you_, you never get the expected:
>	"You are right - I was wrong - Thanks for pointing out my error?"
>
>Well, in fact you DO!  BUT!!  The net is run by the US Army (a well known
>front organaisation for the insidious Amalgamated Rice Growers of America)
>and they have installed a filter on the net which automatically catches
>any such reasonable replies and translates them into:
>	"Hang it in your grommet you ignorant TWIT !!!  You haven't a clue
>	 as to what you're talking about - Don't waste bandwidth with such
>		 mindless gibberish!!!"

   Nicely schizophrenic 8-).

   I've been believing that it is our system here that has the filter.
   Whenever I type in a "you are right" message, it turns into an "ignorant
TWIT" message when it's posted. 

   Or, maybe I'm just a doppelga"nger, and after I post a nice and friendly
message, another ego of mine is awakened, cancels "my" posting, and sends 
a different message of "mine" ....

   Ehe, ehe, ehe he he he he he he .......

Michiaki Masuda
From: kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Renewing Japanese Drivers Licence From Abroad
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:40:37 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

davev@bnr.ca (David Villeneuve) writes:
: 
: If your licence lapses while you are away, you have 6 months to
: renew it.  You must apply for the licence within one month of
: your return.  You must also provide a photo, your passport,
: jyuminhyo (proof of residency) and pay a handling fee of 3200-en.
: You will also be expected to take a driving test, and sit through
: a compulsory 2-hour lecture on the rules of the road, etc.  

That's right, I guess.  There is also a return match opportunity for 
"Ukkari Shikkou" (expiration with unawareness).

: If you have still not renewed your licence after that, you will 
: have to re-apply for a licence as if you never had one.  

If you have a US driver license and you have been a US resident
for more that six months, you can transfer your US license to
Japanse license.  So you may renew your driver license anyway.

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From: Nippon Ecology Network <recycle@igc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:07 PDT
Subject: Re: Sumo predictions
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I don't think that Musashimaru has better technique than Akebono.
Musashimaru wrestles on the belt more often, which is why he loses
a little more often (usually) than Akebono and konishiki do.  
Musashimaru sometimes loses even when he has his opponent in trouble.
Akebono almost never loses if he can put his opponent on the defensive.
Also, since Musashimaru's style is similar to Konishiki's it's very
hard for him to beat the much heavier and considerably stronger 
Ozeki consistantly.  The biggest difference between Musashimaru and 
Chiyonofuji is that you knew when Chiyo got his left-hand grip on
the belt he almost never would lose.  Musashimaru still doesn't have
the experience to keep guys from throwing him even when he's got a good
grip.
Chris Hirth 
Tokyo
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: policewomen may now carry guns
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:13:17 GMT
	<BrJyp6.M8n@watdragon.waterloo.edu>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: pjyamamo@watdragon.waterloo.edu's message of 17 Jul 92 21:36:41 GMT

In article <BrJyp6.M8n@watdragon.waterloo.edu>
   pjyamamo@watdragon.waterloo.edu writes:

 =}According to the news here, "under cover" (?plainclothes) women detectives
 =}carried the same firepower as their male counterparts.

   This thread seems to have gotten a bit tangled.

   Female detectives carry standard issue same as their male counterparts.
The female officers who are now allowed to carry guns carry very small
weapons whereas their counterparts carry a much larger caliber.

 =}The smaller version was "reportedly" so that the gun and holster would
 =}fit under the uniform so it would be harder for someone to take away.
 =}And also to draw and ...

   There have been various reasons reported, but none of them make sense
as the same things can be said of their male counterparts...  So it is
possibly that discrimination played a part in the choice of weapons.

Al
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: wpm@is.morgan.com (W. Phillip Moore)
Subject: Re: Sumo predictions
Organization: Informations Services Dept., Morgan Stanley Japan
	<WPM.92Jul24075317@exile.is.morgan.com>
	<MAGNUS.92Jul25184506@is19e0s00.jaist-east.ac.jp>
Distribution: soc
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:28:20 GMT


Moi> Musashimaru has a long way to go, true, but it's not true that he
Moi> never wins due to superior technique. The majority of his wins this
Moi> time were after belt-grabbing (while Akebono still relies almost
Moi> exlusively on pushing).  Remember also that Chiyo didn't become a
Moi> really great yokozuna until late; Musashimaru is still 21...

OK, lets pick this thread up in a few more years 8-)  Still, I think
Chiyonofuji had a kind of raw talent and instinct that is very rare, and
I'm not convinced that Musasimaru has it.  Anyway, he *does* have a chance
to become Yokozuna is he can remain consistent.  Whether or not he's
another Chiyonofuji is hard to say, but I think not.

Moi> All bets are off, I'd say.

Nonsense -- I'm always betting 8-)

Phil
From: magnus@jaist-east.ac.jp (Magnus Halldorsson)
Subject: Re: Sumo predictions
Organization: School of Info. Science, JAIST Hokuriku, Japan
	<WPM.92Jul24075317@exile.is.morgan.com>
	<1992Jul24.005159.9448@unixg.ubc.ca> <404@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP>
Distribution: soc
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:14:57 GMT

In article <404@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP> tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic) writes:

   What's the problem with you guys. You seem to complain that Akebono and
   Musashimaru win because of superior strength. Why should it be only with
   technique?

   Is it fair to allow 7-foot tall guys to play basket-ball after all? 
   They only have to rely on their height.

Incidentally, it is not clear that Akebono is endowed with a greater
sumo physique just because he's tall with long arms. His legs are too
long, which makes his center of gravity too high, so that is something
he has to compensate for. In fact, the stats state that although he's
is currently the tallest rikishi, there have been 35 wrestlers in
history taller than him! However, none of them ever became ozeki...

Magnus
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: nibber@nevada.edu (KEIKO SHIMMYO)
Subject: Re: Re: non-natives in Japan
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:37:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.210606.6260@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>In article <516205@mordor.com> root@mordor.com (Chris Mauritz - SysGod) writes:
>><1992Jul21.012236.23735@nevada.edu> 
>><2118@aegis.or.jp> 
>
>>Yes, this is somewhat unnerving.  About 7 years ago, I wanted to spend
>>2 weeks in Japan as a tourist.  I was living in Hong Kong at the time
>>so I hoppped over to the Japanese embassy for a visa.  I told them I
>>only wanted to stay for a couple of weeks and in about 2 minutes they
>>stamped a 5 year unlimited entry visa into my passport.  Recently, I
>>went to the Japanese embassy in New York City to get a work visa.
>>It was such a nightmare that I left (went on my lunch hour).  I was
>>told that I would have to wait 1-2 hours just to receive the necessary
>>forms. :-(  Does anyone have any tips on what to say to these guys
>>for a "hassle free" visa?
>
>"hassle free"? No way I know. It takes a minimum of a month to get a work visa
>from Japan. In practice, it's usually closer to 3 months. Usually, the embassy
>will mail you the necessary documents, if you're polite. 
>

[  deleted]
>
>Mike
>-- 


It might be interesting to see how much those officials are influenced by
the companies you are applying for.  I would guess that if you were 
applying for a big or small-but-connected companies, you would be able 
to get those paperwork done without too much hassle.*

Can some of you volanteer some info?

	company, department
	position
	salary range
	your prospective boss's title


*  Nothing different from so many other countries including US.  
Have you heard nightmares that non-US-citizens go through