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From: jc@sci.kun.nl (Jan Christiaan van Winkel)
Subject: RPG to C or RPG to COBOL conversion
Keywords: RPG
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:13:33 GMT

Is there a possibility for a conversion from RPG language on
a IBM S36 to a C or COBOL language on a Unix system.
Maybe something with YACC & LEX ?

Thanks!
JC
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From: SYSDMCKE@VM.UWP.EDU
Subject: Address for listserv@marist ??????
Organization: UW-Parkside
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:16:03 GMT

Hello,
  I am looking for the full address for MARIST.  I tried sending to listserv@
MARIST and our nameserver cannot resolve that address.
  Also, How should I go about finding the full address for other sites like
this ?  9 out of 10 times, I have to hunt it down as our nameserver isn't to
hot.
Thanks,
Doug Mckeown
sysdmcke@vm.uwp.edu
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:34:00 EST
From:         "Allen L. Daugherty" <ALLEN@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Kermit / 3174

We've have Kermit running on PC's, emulating VT100's, going thru 7171's into
our mainframe, doing 3270 emulation and file transfer via VM Kermit.  Have
been doing this for several years with no difficulty.  One of our sites just
installed a 3174 with AEA adapters.  This replaces some old communications
gear that allowed pc users to connect to our 7171's.

I've tried IBM's FTTERM thru this 3174 and file transfer works fine using
IND$FILE.  But, using PC kermit talking to VM kermit, file transfer does not
work.  I've been thru about every 3174 manual that I can find and IBM does
mention that the IND$FILE type file transfer is supported but none other.
It looks as if transparency support is available in the 3174 and IBM sort of
hints that user supported code could be written that could use transparency
to do file transfer.

My questions.  Has anyone else been down this path?  Have you got file transfer
to work with Kermit going thru a 3174?  If so, what settings did you change
in the 3174 to get it to work?

Any help or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

TIA.

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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:46:09 EST
From:         "Thomas D. Denier" <TOM@PENNDRLS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Spool file size inconsistency
Comments: To: IBM-MAIN%ricevm1.rice.edu@NOC2.DCCS.UPENN.EDU,
          IBMTCP-L%pucc.PRINCETON.EDU@NOC2.DCCS.UPENN.EDU

I now understand why spool usage reported by the '$d spl,jobs=5' command was
so far out of line with the record counts shown by SDSF for our TCPIP started
task. All the SYSOUT data sets in the started task were specified as SYSOUT=*,
causing them to inherit the spool class used for MSGCLASS. The MSGCLASS for
started tasks was set to Z in the JES2 parameters, and class Z was set up for
automatic purging in the JES2 parameters. For some reason the JESJCL and
JESYSMSG data sets are not purged even though their spool class calls for
purging. As John Pedlow and Steve Entwistle noted in responses sent to
IBM-MAIN, the spool space used for purged data sets is not reclaimed until all
of the SYSOUT data sets for a job are purged. In this case, that means that
all the space occupied by the purged data sets from TCPIP is locked up until
the JESJCL and JESYSMSG data sets are purged.

The IBM-supplied JCL for the FTPSERVE started task also specifies SYSOUT=*
for all SYSOUT data sets. I suspect that the same is true of all the other
IBM-supplied JCL for started tasks assiciated with the TCP/IP product.
From: med@YUMA.ACNS.COLOSTATE.EDU (Marvin Dodd)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Subject: VTAM/JES2 appl
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:59:02 GMT
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Comments: To: ibm-main <ibm-main@ricevm1.rice.edu>


 I'm installing a product that will connect our VTAM printers and JES2 spool
to printers on a TCPIP network. The product is EPS (Enterprise Print Services)
from Interlink. EPS runs as an NJE node on our host.

  I have never defined JES2 to VTAM and I can't find any example in what we
have left of our CBIPO stuff. Would someone send me a VTAM APPL definition
of JES2? If it is relevent, we run JES2 2.2.3 and VTAM 3.3.0.

Thank you gentle ibm-main folk.

--
Gene Dodd
Colorado State University
(303) 491-1583
med@yuma.acns.colostate.edu
From: venenga@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Subject: Using INPCS to connect to IBMLink
Date: 18 Dec 92 09:09:47 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I am trying to run INPCS to connect to IBMLink.  It is Release 1.1 of the
software.  I have got a Practical Peripherals PM9600SA trying to connect
at 2400.  I get to the point where I need to enter my password, then the 
TX and RX lights just flash back and forth, and after a while my connection
is dropped.  I have messed with the setup string in DIAL.PCS, but to no
avail.  If any of you have successfully dialed up IBMLink with the PM9600SA,
I would really appreciate any pointers.  E-mail and net responses are both
acceptable.  Thanks for any and all help.

-jay

===========================================================================
Jay Venenga                              Internet: venenga@uni.edu
Systems Programmer                             or: venenga@att1.uni.edu
Information Systems and Computing Services
University of Northern Iowa             USWestNet: (319) 273-2008
Cedar Falls, IA  50614-0509                   FAX: (319) 273-3509

Disclaimer:  Standard

"Thinking for us, basically, is a trick, like a dog walking on two legs.
 It's amazing we can do it at all." - Hans Moravec 
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:48:11 SLT
From:         "A. Medaid" <D03G004@SAKSU00.BITNET>
Subject:      MVS CBPDO

 We are going to install MVS CBPDO level-9245 for the first time.
 Our current system level and software:
 service level = 9104
  software:
  MVS BASE SCP REL 3.8
  ASSEMBLER H 2.1.0
  COBOL COMP AND LIB 1.2.4
  COBOL II COMP AND LIB 1.3.2
  PLI COMPOSITE PACKAGE 1.5.1
  DFP DATA FAC PROD 2.4.0
  DFDSS DATA FAC DS SERV 2.5.0
  DATA FACILITY SORT 1.11.0
  ICKDSF DEVICE SUP FAC MVS/XA 1.12.0
  EREP 3.4.0
  EREP 3.4.1
  ISPF FOR MVS XA 3.2.0
  ISPF/PDF MVS/XA 3.2.0
  JES/328X PRINT FAC 2.2.0
  MVS/SP JES2 V2 R2.3
  ACF/VTAM XA 3.3.0
  NETVIEW A/S (ACCESS SERVICES) MVS/XA 1.3.1
  NETVIEW MVS/XA 1.3.0
  RACF 1.9.0
  RMF 3.5.1
  SYS MOD PROG/EXTENDED 1.5.1
  TSO/E FOR MVS/XA 2.1.0

 some products were installed using sperate smp/e csi.

 We want to avoid problems, therefore I will greatly appreciate
 any help or  advice.

  Thanks in advance.
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From: alaroy@nyx.cs.du.edu (Andrew LaRoy)
Subject: format of outgoing mail to CMS mailer
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix (sponsored by U. of Denver Math/CS dept.)
Disclaimer1: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University of
Disclaimer2: Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
Disclaimer3: control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 03:04:59 GMT

I am attempting to patch together a mail handler for our vm/cms.  I've got
the download mail part so it is at least temperally accptable.  My idea
for the upload section was like so: 
The mail would be created on a pc front end (peguisus mail) and saved.
A pascal program would convert the header format of the pc mail to that
which the mailer wants (more on this later)
a procomm plus script would move all the outgoing mail files to the vm
a rexx program would figure out the names of all the outgoing files and sf
them to mailer  OR the procomm plus script could transmit sf filename for
each file.

This rases two problems.  First is that I am not able to find ANYTHING
about what format the mailer wants the mail in.  If anyone out there has
an idea / documentation, I would greatly appreciate it.  Our cms front end
is Ricemail, in case that makes any difference.

Second, what is the basic algorythm for a sf * outmail mailer in rexx. 
And why can't cms take an sf * outmail in the first place.  Most other
OS's I've worked with are a LOT better about wildcards tham CMS.

By the way, this doesn't have to be too essoteric - the whole thing will
be in use for six months to a year at most.  The basic I dea is to get it
working most the time.
I appreciate the help
Andrew LaRoy
alaroy@nyx.cs.du.edu  (and others)

r
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From: pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: Synchronizing clocks - Hosts & LANs
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:40:02 GMT

Mark R. Ludwig (mrl@uai.com) wrote:

: In any event, there is a much more serious problem on an IBM: the
: simple fact that the clock is protected in hardware.  In order to
: change the clock, a human has to do something in or near the CPU to
: effect the change.  Unless IBM has changed something, no software can
: overcome this.$$

I believe recent processors have a control register that simulates
a press of the clock button.
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:12:10 EST
Reply-To:     TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
From:         Message Center <FZC@CU.NIH.GOV>
Subject:      [TDR] Finding domain "marist"
Comments: To: ibm-main@ricevm1.rice.edu
Comments: cc: sysdmcke@vm.uwp.edu

When you see an internet address longer than 3 letters,
(with the exception of .ARPA), this address is almost
always a "BITNET" address.  If you, for example, want
to access an address like

  listserv@marist

You would translate this into

  listserv@marist.bitnet

If your system is on Bitnet, it should translate the
address directly into the local site.  If your system
is not on bitnet, you have to use a gateway, like this:

   listserv%marist.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu

                 or

   listserv%marist.bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu

There are about six gateways that handle internet to
bitnet traffic for sites that don't handle it.
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Paul Robinson -- TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
These opinions are mine alone.
From: STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan Horwitz)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Subject: POP mail server
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:25:47 GMT
Organization: Temple University - Computer Services

Does anyone know if there is a POP mail server program available for VM/XA?
If so, where can I find it? Thanks.
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 11:37:00 PST
From:         Michael Stein <CSYSMAS@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Common library (PL/1 and IBM C Compilers)

> David Sumitra (david@VAX1.CC.UAKRON.EDU) wrote:
> : Having common library for two products, increases maintenance work.
> : A patch to one product, requires both the products to be tested again.
> : Are there any problems if there is a common library for each product?
> : This way, when a patch is applied to one product, the other need not be
> : tested. Are there any pitfalls to this arrangement?

Yes, what if parts of the common library are in LPA or linklist?
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:17:04 EST
From:         Mark Bandak <MARK@MONTCOLA.BITNET>
Subject:      Help with NRZ vs NRZI on SYS/36 ...

Folks:

Sorry if this is not the 'exact' correct forum; but I need help from
someone with a 'good' SDLC background. (excuse x-posts)

Scenario: just converted (outside our dept.) a SYS/36 with a 5294
remote controller from modem to T1 (9.6K).  From a variety of manuals
the only way we could get the 5294 to work was to change the SDLC
parms from NRZI to NRZ. In GA21-9369-2 it is stated (elsewhere as well)
'The initial setting of this bit is recommended to be NRZI (0,off) for
EIA interface with analog modems/DCEs and NRZ (1,on) for DDSA, XLCA,
and EIA interfaces, when EIA is used with digital DCEs.'

We tried w/o NRZ and could not get the SYS/36 to 'talk to' the 5294;
so I followed the manual suggestion; viola, it worked.

PROBLEM: Despite assurances from the user(s) that they are noticing
nothing; they are now getting on a regular basis (every 15-30min)

   SYS6729 C02 on line 2 is experiencing severe degradation.
          (controller 2 on line 2 ....)
    and
   SYS3410 SDLC line 2 line degradation.

This is a point-to-point line, no multi-drop. We have run the analog
modems again, the modems work with NRZ or NRZI; the messages continue
to occur with either the modem or T1; hence it must be the NRZ parm.

So, my question; if I can't run NRZI (like all my 3725 lines) - and
since NRZ seems to be causing these problems; what do I do?  Manual
references indicate line probs or modem probs ... which I believe
we have proven to NOT be the problem.

Suggestions welcome, other forums also welcome.

Many thanks .. /Mark
From: PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu (Peter M. Weiss)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Subject: Re: Help with NRZ vs NRZI on SYS/36 ...
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:24:33 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <IBM-MAIN%92121512464474@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, Mark Bandak
<MARK@MONTCOLA.BITNET> says:

In my limited experience with NRZ, it is related to the sensitivity
of the DCE (modem, DSU/CSU) to bit patterns.  In some circumstances,
because of carrier facilities, it will only support NRZI=NO e.g.,
certain multiplexors.

It sounds like you have timing problems.  If you are using a carrier
digital facilities, it seems to me that your DTEs (S/36 and 5294)
should be deviving their clocking signals from the DCE i.e., External
Clocking (from the DTE point-of-view).  Now the next question is where
do the DCEs derive their clocks?  My guess is this is where your
problem resides.  Note that one DCE need be symmmetrically configured
to the other DCE i.e., one could provide clocking, whereas the other
could _derive_ clocking from the other.

Or you could have a carrier synchronization problem.  You will want
to get your local telecom folks involved, no doubt.

/Pete (pmw1@psuvm.psu.edu)
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Peter M. Weiss                     | not affiliated with psuvm.psu.edu|psuvm
31 Shields Bldg -- Penn State Univ.| "Connectivity is more than a Connection"
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From: pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: MVS and Carriage Control (HELP!!!)
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:29:56 GMT

Mike Cooling (COOLING@COMPCTR.CCS.CSUS.EDU) wrote:
: I'm trying to submit a job from our VM system to our MVS system (which works
: fine). The output is automatically return to the users VM RDR queue.
: Unfortunately it has no carrige control.

What you describe sounds like primeval brain damage in VM's READCARD and PEEK
commands.  Instead, use the DEPRINT command if it's available.  I'm
sure you'll get many other suggestions, involving CMS Pipelines.
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:12:38 EST
From:         "Paul B. Thorn" <PBT@YALEADS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Using INPCS to connect to IBMLink
              18 Dec 1992 09:09:47 -0600 from <venenga@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU>

On Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:09:47 -0600 <venenga@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU> said:
>I am trying to run INPCS to connect to IBMLink.  It is Release 1.1 of the
>software.  I have got a Practical Peripherals PM9600SA trying to connect
>at 2400.  I get to the point where I need to enter my password, then the
>TX and RX lights just flash back and forth, and after a while my connection
>is dropped.  I have messed with the setup string in DIAL.PCS, but to no
>avail.  If any of you have successfully dialed up IBMLink with the PM9600SA,
>I would really appreciate any pointers.  E-mail and net responses are both
>acceptable.  Thanks for any and all help.
>
>-jay
>

I had the same problem if you call the IBMLink support center they can
tell you the modem options for just about all of them. What you need is to
change the "AT" command in the dial.pcs file to the following.

AT &F L0 &D2 Q0 &K0 &Q0 S36=1 S46=136 S48=128\r

You should call them and get the 9600 baud number for your area. Then update
this same file with the speed info.

Note: keep a backup copy of the changes the INPCS setup if run will
back them out.

/Paul
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Organization: The University of Mississippi
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:49:41 CST
From:         Ron Kitchens <CCRONK@UMSVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Barr-Hasp

Can someone running Barr-Hasp on MVS/XA with a laser printer tell me the
fastest thruput I can expect?  Also the configuration which it is running
in?  Thanks for the info.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Ron Kitchens                              PHONE:    (601) 232-7206
Systems Programmer                        FAX:      (601) 232-7180
Room 318, Powers Hall                     BITNET:   CCRONK @ UMSVM
University, MS  38677                     INTERNET: ccronk @ vm.cc.olemiss.edu
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 15:02:12 -0700
From:         Marvin Dodd <med@YUMA.ACNS.COLOSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Address for listserv@marist ??????
Comments: To: IBM-MAIN@ricevm1.rice.edu
              "SYSDMCKE@VM.UWP.EDU" at Dec 11, 92 08:16:03 pm

SYSDMCKE@VM.UWP.EDU writes:
>   I am looking for the full address for MARIST.  I tried sending to listserv@
> MARIST and our nameserver cannot resolve that address.
>
I access that listserv by putting on the suffix BITNET, i.e. MARIST.BITNET .

--
Gene Dodd
Colorado State University
(303) 491-1583
med@yuma.acns.colostate.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 09:13:04 EST
From: Peter M. Weiss <PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Subject: Internet Host for Bit node (was Re: Address for listserv@marist ?????)

There are several ways of finding out a _registered_ Internet Host name
for a Bitnet node.  Of course if the NAD did not bother to register
this equivalence in the Bitearn Nodes database using the Bitnic's
UPDATE procedure, it is more difficult to find (but not totally
impossible).

Perhaps the easiest way, if you have access to Bitnet Messaging e.g.,
VM TELL or VMS SEND, is to issue the following command to your closest
listserv site --

     TELL LISTERV AT node SHOW NODE bitnode /INTERNET

If you would like a list of ALL such registered names, the following
could be sent to retieve the monthly-updated file (1015 lines currently)

     TELL LISTSERV AT BITNIC GET INTERNET LISTING

(Of course all of the above Listserv commands could be sent via RFC822
mail or a flat file to either the listserv's Bitnet or Internet address
e.g., listserv@bitnic.educom.edu.)

/Pete (pmw1@psuvm.psu.edu)
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31 Shields Bldg -- Penn State Univ.| "Connectivity is more than a Connection"
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-main
Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:49:32 -0500
From:         David Sumitra <david@VAX1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Common library (PL/1 and IBM C Compilers)
Comments: To: ibm-main@vm1.cc.uakron.edu

Having common library for two products, increases maintenance work.
A patch to one product, requires both the products to be tested again.
Are there any problems if there is a common library for each product?
This way, when a patch is applied to one product, the other need not be
tested. Are there any pitfalls to this arrangement?

I will be grateful for any suggestions or comments.

Thanks in advance,

David Sumitra
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From: rbond@nevada.edu (RICHARD BOND)
Subject: Re:      NCP parms for Periphonics VPS?
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:23:43 GMT

In article <IBM-MAIN%92120919154773@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> Rob Strand <ROB@UCSCVM.BITNET> writes:
...stuff deleted...
>
>--It is attached to a 3725 via a hardwire connection (no modems or
>  modem eliminator).
>
..more..
>GR81VPS  GROUP LNCTL=SDLC,                                             -
..more..
>               CLOCKNG=EXT,                                            -
                        ^^^

You might want to try CLOCKNG=INT here.

/Richard
  
  
  
  
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.lawsch-l
Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:31:31 EST
From:         V1754G@TEMPLEVM.BITNET
Subject:      The Patent Bar

i've heard that if you work for the  PTO for 5 years, you don't
have to take the examiner examination.   Does this mean that
an examiner with a J.D. waives into the patent bar?
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From: kpscarr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Karen Pelton Scarr)
Subject: Re: Law Schools and Queers
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:36:51 GMT

In article <9212090857.AA03196@gw.home.vix.com> shedevil@VIX.COM (Anne P. Mitchell, JD) writes:
>Go to Stanford.  They emphasize things like gender orientation,
>race, and underclass subordination problems more than they
>bother with teaching the law.

Hey!  You must have gone to Boalt or something--what's that little dig about
"more than they bother with teaching the law"?!

But I would echo the recommendation.  I am a second-year at Stanford, and I
have found the atmosphere very tolerant (of gays and liberal views generally,
if less so for more conservative viewpoints) and there are plenty of course
offerings that focus on underrepresented and disempowered groups.  Prof. Janet
Halley teaches a terrific seminar called "Identity and Difference."  
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