HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
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I think that this was a show that Channel 4 had a few years back
that had a few stand-up comedians on every week, some UK and some USA
It was at the comedy store in London or something.
Sorry about the dodgy memory here, but I do remember Norman Lovett (sp?)
being on there.
I,m pretty sure he was on Johnathon Ross a while back and did a hilarious
version of "War" (the Bruce Springsteen song) speaking the words in his
usual deadpan/Holly voice whilst clicking his fingers at a totally random
rhythm.
Lee.
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From: daver@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Ruby)
Subject: Re: PBS TV
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:52:33 GMT

neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:

>In article <sbradley.02qj@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca> sbradley@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Bradley) writes:
>>Hey dude....The shirts I got from KCTS 9, our local PBS channel are
>>black with Red Dwarf, in red letters and a silver planet, rather like Saturn
>>and the date of the pledge drive. 

>What actually are these `pledge drives' US PBS stations seem to keep
>having. Send us money and we'll show the program you want ??

>Neil

In the US, most channels you can receive for free have commercials
and broadcast stuff that appeals to the lowest common denominator
marketing demographics discovers.  PBS stations are free
channels (don't need to get it through cable) but rely on income
from contributions and grants instead of commercial ads.

Every year (sometimes twice a year) they run fund raisers
and ask for money from the viewing audience.  If you donate
certain amounts, you get gifts, like T-shirts or coffee mugs.

They also take viewer comments seriously, so you can request
different shows every year, and occasionally they listen.

PBS is also the only place you get to see BBC 30-35 minute long
shows uncut to fit into a 22-30 timeslot.

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From: byrdie@milton.u.washington.edu (Renee Byrd)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Possible source of Red Dwarf books.
Summary: Ya see, last October they had some . . .
Keywords: Red Dwarf books;  Shipman's;  Tacoma, WA
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:28:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Illuminati Design Board


	I can't guarantee anything, but I got the two Red Dwarf books from
	a dealer at a Victoria, B.C. con last October.  The dealer, Shipman's,
	is located in Tacoma, WA in the Highland Hill Shopping Center.  For 
	anyone who wants to get in touch with them and see what they have in 
	stock or what they can order, here's the info:

		Shipman's
		5981 - 6th Ave
		Tacoma, WA	98406 - 2015

		Phone:	(206) 565 - 7844
		FAX:	(206) 472 - 1435

	Good luck.
From: sbradley@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Bradley)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf on YTV in Canada 
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:14:06 PDT
Organization: Wizard Online


I think the episode they refused to show, at least I've never 
seen it shown on YTV, is where Kryten comes alive and takes
Photos of his..em p--is, after looking though a washing machine
manual.....


Regards...Steve

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From: 10726446@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (LAU WAI KUEN)
Subject: Re: Arnold Rimmer and Frank Burns
Keywords: Arnold Rimmer and Frank Burns
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:29:08 GMT

In article <srutt.711675288@beagle> srutt@boulder.Colorado.EDU (DNA Kaifeng) writes:
>From: srutt@boulder.Colorado.EDU (DNA Kaifeng)
>Subject: Arnold Rimmer and Frank Burns
>Keywords: Arnold Rimmer and Frank Burns
>Date: 20 Jul 92 23:34:48 GMT

>Is there a connection? Are they related? What's the story?

>                    -steve

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   Damn clones!  Arnold-R-MER and Frank-B-RNS.  Obviously commie mutant 
traitor spies.

Hal
From: zio@spectrx.saigon.com (Zio zZz)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Red Dwarf on TV in Australia
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:05:34 GMT
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca

cjs@ausom.oz.au (Cameron Silver) writes:

> The title says it all , on tuesday night, 10:00 on ABC (Channel 2) red dwarf
> will be on ... "New episodes of the BBCseries: Backwards. When the Mining Shi
> Red Dwarf finally returns to earth, it finds time, and everything running
> backwards" .. Isn't that kinda how BTL ends? (ie: the book?) ... Where is
> the thrid book ..
> 
> Cameron Silver
> -- 
 
Hmm.  Isn't Backwards RD3/Ep#1?  If that is NEW for ABC2, then Oz is a bit 
behind everyone!  Or has it been shown before to you and simply is being 
rebroadcast?
 
Just wondering :)
    
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From: abw@bucrsb.bu.edu (Al Wesolowsky)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: RD books in the US!
Summary: Possible, possible....
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:09:25 GMT
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Jul23.032317.28412@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> gousha@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Charles Gousha) writes:
>When I checked my local bookstore the other day for possible copies of the
>RD books, the guy said no (and knew what they were - what a great bookstore),

There are a couple of bookstores in Boston that regularly stock imports
of British mass market paperbacks: Buddenbrooks (on Boylston) and
Wordsworth (Brattle Square/Harvard Square). I see the RD books there
from time to time (and purchased mine at the latter sometime last
year).

Warning: mongo expensive....like $8.00 for a book the size of a $3.95 book
that was manufactured in the US. But worth it. Dunno if they do mail/phone
orders, but FWIW:

Buddenbrooks: (617) 536-4433
Wordsworth: (617) 354-5201

>BUT! said that a US distributor was picking them up for the States next
>month! 

Good news. Let us pray that this is so.

ObDisclaimer: I have no relationship with the stores except as a customer.

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From: bill@ihpds1.att.com (Bill Duncan)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Red Dwarf in Chicago area
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:12:00 GMT
Organization: AT&T
Originator: news@cbnewsf.cb.att.com


Is it showing out here? I haven't seen it since I
moved out here from Maine.

Bill Duncan
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From: tsmaster@media.mit.edu (David LeCompte)
Subject: FAQ
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:36:22 GMT

I'm sure that this has been discussed at some time, but what is the
feasability of a regularly posted FAQ? I guess that I'm just not too
enthusiastic about reading Yet Another "So, what is Vindaloo?" post.

If there is a reason why this can't/shouldn't/won't be done, I'm sure
someone will tell me all about it. :)

	-Dave "He's dead, Dave" LeCompte
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From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: PBS TV
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:28:29 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <sbradley.02qj@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca> sbradley@wiz.outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Bradley) writes:
>Hey dude....The shirts I got from KCTS 9, our local PBS channel are
>black with Red Dwarf, in red letters and a silver planet, rather like Saturn
>and the date of the pledge drive. Their last drive was about 5 weeks ago
>so the next one's due in January. If you do get any response as to where RD
>memoriabilia can be found in Vancouver, can you let me know, either here
>or at Wizard BBS, (604)322-3972...

What actually are these `pledge drives' US PBS stations seem to keep
having. Send us money and we'll show the program you want ??

Neil
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From: dud@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (William F. Dudley Jr.)
Subject: Episodes wanted: Help!
Keywords: VHS Tapes
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:38:02 GMT

I've only seen the first season of Red Dwarf, when our local PBS outlet
broadcast the whole thing in a marathon from midnight to early morning!

I'd love to get my hands on VHS tapes of the other seasons of R.D. that
have been broadcast in the US.  I have a very complete collection of
Dr. Who and Blakes-7 tapes that I'd be willing to trade episodes of . . .

So any of you Red Dwarf watchers that have been taping the series,
if you'd like to help out a fan in New Jersey, email me.

Thanks in advance,

Bill Dudley
dud@homxb.ho.att.com
From: michael@paul.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Questions (No Vindaloo, please; I'm driving)
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:18:47 GMT
	<1992Jul28.141441.13285@ctr.columbia.edu> <395-JNEWS-2.1@smylex.UUCP>
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: jlee@smylex.UUCP's message of 28 Jul 92 23:47:47 GMT

In article <395-JNEWS-2.1@smylex.UUCP> jlee@smylex.UUCP (Jeff Lee) writes:

=  > Holograms (a la RD, at least) are projected from a little projector
=  > which hovers in the centre of the image.

=  A "light bee," if I'm not mistaken.
            ^^^
[.sig deleted for brevity]

I think perhaps it is "bead", unless I heard it wrong in _Meltdown_.
Has anybody got a script?

chaplin.
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From: joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Norman Lovett Standup
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:47:00 GMT
Reply-To: joe.siegler@satalink.com (Joe Siegler)
Organization: SataLink Info Systems - Huntingdon Valley, PA - 215-364-3324

Reply-To: joe.siegler@satalink.com
Organization: Jupiter Mining Corporation

I'm attempting to find the name of a TV show that aired some time
ago, but I can't recall.   Maybe someone can figure it out.

There was a stand up comedy show over here in the States some
time ago, and I really don't remember the name of it.    One
episode had Rowan Atkinson doing the "News of the World", (with
MANY sight gags).   Looking back on it, it kind of reminds me of
Mr. Bean.    Anyway, also on this was a guy who a really neat
standup with 3 alligators on sticks, and had 'em sing "Don't Be
Cruel".    The same guy did a really neat Popeye routine.

Anyway, I know this is a pretty vague description, but the whole
reason for me asking is that during the closing credits they
would show others that had been on the show, and for about 2
seconds, they had Norman Lovett.   I only ever had 1 episode of
this on tape, and I no longer have it.

Does anyone have any idea what this might be?
From: ccaaand@ucl.ac.uk (Andrew Dawson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: curses! ALSO Craig Charles/Robert Llywellyn Interview.
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:24:36 GMT
Reply-To: ccaaand@ucl.ac.uk
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

In article <14svl3INNt7q@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> keeper@deeptht.armory.com writes:
>Not really RD related, but when did the BBC2 logo change from the red, white
>and blue "TWO" to that spacy "2"? and why does "888" appear on the top right?

The 888 refers to the page on Ceefax (the BBC's Teletext system) on which
subtitles for the programme can be found (it's always 888 these days). Some of
the spare transmission lines are used to offer a few hundred pages of textual
information - mostly news related, plus tv listings, etc. The subtitle page is
just one of them. It's kind of a superset of the closed captioning (CC) system
used in the US. The majority of tv sets have Teletext decoders built in these
days.

Andrew.
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From: pierrot@milton.u.washington.edu (The Pierrot)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Questions (No Vindaloo, please; I'm driving)
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:12:35 GMT
Organization: Jupiter Mining Corporation Skutter Maintenance Team

In article <1992Jul28.133212.9116@news.media.mit.edu> tsmaster@media.mit.edu (David LeCompte) writes:
>(Oh, SPOILER ALERT!)


>3)	Oh, another continuity question, I guess: Rimmer exits the Red
>	Dwarf in Season 3. In "Thanks for the Memory" he was able to
>	do this by means of a hologram projection cage. Is there any
>	explanation to how he manages it in, oh, say "Backwards"?

	Nope, no explanation give.  However, my "continuity patch"
	is this:

	We see in several later episodes that Rimmer's hologram image
	is projected by a "light bee" -- a small metallic device that
	floats in the middle of the image.  This obviously wasn't 
	there before -- otherwise, Lister would have run smack into
	it when he walks through Rimmer in "The End."

	The light bee is therefore a technology that Holly has only
	recently started using, and among other things, this more 
	advanced type of projection takes the place of the bulky
	hologram projection cage.

	If this technology was available all along -- why not use
	use it sooner?  Well, it WASN'T availble earlier, or Rimmer
	would have insisted on using it.  

	Notice that Kryten is the one who explains the "light bee"
	to Lister.  We can assume, then, that the light bee was an
	idea that Kryten brought with him -- from the later, more 
	technologically advanced Nova 5.

	None of this happened on screen -- but it makes sense.

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From: ijp@crane.doc.ic.ac.uk (Ian Palmer)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: curses! ALSO Craig Charles/Robert Llywellyn Interview.
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:21:42 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

daver@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Ruby) writes:
: many people write:
: 
: >>>Basically all the new info that I gleaned was that it only takes 6 weeks to
: >>>shoot a series (I demand more Red Dwarf/year then !!). (...)
: 
: >> It may take six weeks to shoot an episode, but did they say how long
: >>it takes to put together all the cheesy special effects? (...)
: 
: >Yeah, and what about the writing? I've been known to have complained about
: >some of the episodes/seasons, but it is hard to write something as good as
: >Red Dwarf. It takes time, too (and a lot of baths and large dinners ;-)
: 
: True, but there are a few American shows that have decent writing
: for the 20 shows in a season.  "Cheers" was pretty good for the 5-10
: years it was on, for example.  
: 
: Maybe it's a BBC thing.  Almost every BBC comedy I've seen was in
: 6 episode bursts (fawlty towers, young ones, etc)
: 

It's not just a BBC thing, it's a British thing (ITV do it as well).
The reason that our comedies come in 6 episode chunks is due to (a)
only having 4 channels, and (b) each comedy tends to be written by one
(sometimes two) person (people) . In the states, comedies tend to be
written by teams of people, and there are more channels so you can 
afford longer seasons.

In fact in the U.K. we tend to have only 3 different lengths of
seasons (as a rule) :

   comedy   - 6 episodes
   drama    - 10-12 episodes
   soap     - ad infinitum (or ad nausium)

Personally I don't like the 6 episode seasons, they're too short. You
just get into it and it finishes. But then again they're useful if you
don't actually like it - as there might be something good on in it's
place in a few weeks (but then again....).

Ian

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From: <MATTWOOD@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: Questions (No Vindaloo, please; I'm driving)
 <1992Jul28.141441.13285@ctr.columbia.edu> <395-JNEWS-2.1@smylex.UUCP>
 <399-JNEWS-2.1@smylex.UUCP>

 Jeff Lee <jlee@smylex.UUCP> asks :

> So what *are* those bready things served with vindaloo called?

 Nan bread.  So called because each Indian restaurant is usually a family
affair, the young members given the waiter/waitress jobs, and the older
ones the cooking jobs.  When the grandmother of the family gets too old to
do the 'proper' cooking, she gets to make the bread - hence 'nan' bread.;-)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
From: daver@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Ruby)
Subject: Re: The Red Dwarf FAQ List
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:18:14 GMT


I don't know who is the official maintainter of the FAQ, so
I thought I'd post.

The last show of the first season was called ME^2 I think.  
It wasn't in the FAQ.
It was on here in central Illinois a few weeks ago and was the
one where Rimmer gets himself as a roommate.

We're off to season #2...

David Ruby                                 daver@uiuc.edu   
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From: che238n@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: curses!
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:54:46 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <14iebgINNbdc@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, hermit@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Ron O'Dell) writes:
> 
> In article <MICHAEL.92Jul20230746@paul.bu.edu> michael@paul.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin) writes:
>>I've been folowing Red Dwarf for some time now on
>>New Hampshire Public Television, and was just informed that
>>they will no longer be airing it. (The last episode shown was the 
>>one with the wax-droid war and Elvis) 
> 
> Don't worry -- I don't think they meant that they'll never show it again.
> The last episode they aired is the last one available to television stations
> in the U.S., so it makes sense that they stopped.  The latest series won't
> be available to U.S. television until January.
> 
> (Or maybe October, if we're lucky?  Series 4 wasn't available until January
>  1992, so I'm assuming that series 5 won't be available until January 1993.)
> 
> -- 
> --- keeper@deeptht.armory.com (Ron O'Dell)   Do >not< mail hermit!
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Smeg!
From: nrp@btcase.bt.co.uk (Reece Peacock)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: curses! ALSO Craig Charles/Robert Llywellyn Interview.
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:21:54 GMT
Organization: British Telecom, Lion House, London.

neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:

>Something I forgot to post last week.

>David Llewellyn and Craig Charles were on Parallel 9 - a seriously crap
>Saturday kids TV show (Ok, it's got Toxic Crusaders on it. That's about
>all !!).

>Basically all the new info that I gleaned was that it only takes 6 weeks to
>shoot a series (I demand more Red Dwarf/year then !!). Also one of the
>foundations that Red Dwarf is built on is that Aliens *do not exist*
>(pisser for Rimmer eh !!. Now where DID that whole bog roll go then ?).

One of my friends went to one the filming of an episode (via the applying for
the free audience tickets route from the BBC). He said that it was all done
very quickly with few retakes. As an aside he also went to one for the filming of
Bottom, this he said took ages with quite a lot of retakes and he got bored after
1.5 hours.

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From: SMC@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Re: THE VERB 'TO BE'
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:19:01 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

In article <1855@sdrc.COM>, scjones@thor.sdrc.com (Larry Jones) says:
>
>> > :Stigma, schmigma!
>> >
>> > That sounds faintly either scatological, risque, or both. :-)

I think it makes perfect sense to me.  Should anyone be worried about
that?

>I've got to start listening to those quiet, nagging doubts. -- Calvin

Listen to other people's nagging doubts.  Then you can go around feeling
superior.  Sonia.
From: pierrot@milton.u.washington.edu (The Pierrot)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.red-dwarf
Subject: Frequenly asked questions about the FAQ  :)
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:02:22 GMT
Organization: Jupiter Mining Corporation Skutter Maintenance Team


	Hi, people!  As one of the two compilers/maintainers of the
	Red Dwarf Frequently Asked Questions list (the other being 
	the lovely Renee Byrd -- send compliments to byrdie@milton),
	I thought I'd take a quick minute to answer a couple questions
	I've seen asked about it.

	-- Yes, it is available by anonymous ftp.  It's on 
	toaster.ee.ubc.ca  (137.82.56.10), so you don't have to 
	wait for me to post it -- you can grab the most recent 
	version whenever you like.

	-- Yes, we are planning on posting it regularly, but we
	haven't yet for two reasons:  a.) we want to find a way on 
	a unix machine to post it automatically in case we forget 
	to post it :), and b.) we're still trying to get a feel 
	for how often it should be posted.   At the moment, we figure
	it needs to be posted at LEAST once a month.  What does 
	everyone else think?

	-- Yes, we are eagerly reading the newsgroup and our mail
	for your comments, suggestions, and corrections.  We appreciate
	the support, everyone!

	-- Yes, version 1.7 should be released soon.  Thanks to those
	who have helped us update it!
 
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