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From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: Ethanol blended gasoline
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:17:16 GMT

 [ stuff delted throughout ]
 
>>> I don't recall ever disagreeing with you.  As I recall, I specifically
>>> excluded well-maintained classics (what you refer to as "special
>>> interest" cars) from my suggestion.
>
>>Ahh, well maintained classics huh?
>>What about a 75-81 car that has been hotrodded?
>
>Hmmm, I hadn't considered that.  Are we talking about a car that sees
>regular street use, or one mostly driven at races/events for hotrods?

unless you're a 'trailer_queen' you drive your hotrod to the races/events
- that's half the fun of owning them!!!

>I'll grant you this:  before any governing body forms legislation on
>this subject, it will have to think long and hard about how to word
>it so the junkers go, but the 'rods and muscle cars that owners take
>care of are given consideration.
>
>
>>> My point was that a car doesn't have to be a big-block to be
>>> fun and fast, and that newer cars are much more likely to have
>>> cleaner emissions than their ancestors.  Oh, BTW, I have no 
>>> delusions about outrunning one of the big-block beasts
>>> on a straightaway; that's why I specified a "winding country
>>> road" :-).
>
>>Now Scott you are forgetting that my car is a hotrod not a stocker.
>>Do you really think that I'd forget to change the suspension around
>>a little bit? :^) :^) :^)
>
>Regardless, it would be a helluva lot of fun!  One of the drivers on
>the Talon mailing list posted a few messages about his opportunity to
>do some time-trials at a local track, and making a 'Vette driver *very*
>unhappy.  It seems the Corvette couldn't hack it in the turns.
>Say what you want about high-tech new cars, but God I love the way the
>Laser handles!
>
have you seen some of the 'pro-built' street/hotrods lately? and the
people driving them? I don't think you'd fair too well against Ray Castell
or a few others like Jim Ewing, Ed Moss, or a few others that could
match you on both the straight-aways and the curves
that's how they grew up - running 'em both


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From: bbarkey@lark.utah.edu (Brian Barkey)
Subject: Re: Cruise Control w/ Manual Transmission
Organization: University of Utah
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 03:43:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.001539.17655@rchland.ibm.com> essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.193931.5164@scott.skidmore.edu>, jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu (Jason Reiser... Asleep) writes:
>|> stsshol@st.unocal.COM (Herb Lam) writes:
>|> > 

*** stuff about cruise control deleted ****

>
>what if you change gears without touching the clutch (probably tricky if
>you're letting the cruise control do the gas)?  what about pulling the
>tranny into neutral while at speed?  will the engine rev maddly trying
>to maintain speed?
>
>axel

In the cruise control I installed in my car there is
a "sensitivity" control. This cuts out the cruise control if
the revs go up to quickly. This was adjustable 'cause some
cars normally accelerate quickly, it would be a pain if
your cruise control cut out every time it engaged. 
Fortunately (unfortunatly?) this is not a problem
with Subarus.

		Brian Barkey



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From: eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Subject: Re: Fast Japanese Sports Cars
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:07:13 GMT

In article <74435@apple.apple.COM> chmilar@Apple.COM (Michael Chmilar) writes:
>3000 VR-4:  Ugly, ugly, and ugly.  Did I forget to mention:  it is U-G-L-Y?
>            It gets my vote for grossest car of the '90's.  Whoever did the
>            styling on this thing should be killed.

i think that the ugliness is insignificant compared to its obesity.  3800+
pounds for a "sports" car???  and its over-flash styling does nothing
to hide it either.  yuk, yuk and yuk again.  the least desirable "sports"
car in my book.

>RX-7:       Brutal.  Some of the light weight is acheived by flimsy
>            construction.  Check out:  Entire interior, door latches, inside
>            of the wheel wells.  This is a $34,000 car?  If you drive on
>            rough roads, make sure your health insurance covers rehabilitating
>            bruised kidneys.  Looks nice and aggressive, but the R1 has
>            that cheesy, ugly spoiler.  With the combo of stiff suspension
>            and flimsy construction, it may well shake itself to pieces in
>            a few years.  These cars are not selling well, so you can
>            probably name your price for one.

ahem.. ever taken a close look or ride in a ferrari f40?  you could
probably buy 10 RX7s for one of those, and not only will the f40 blow
your kidneys it'll also blow out your fillings :-) but my response to
your comments is this.. if you want luxury and quietness and that kind
of thing then buy the Lexus SC400.  i think mazda's got the right
attitude.. build an uncompromising sports car.. let the wimps buy
Lexii. :-) highly desirable, i think and unquestionably a "sports"
car.

>300ZX:      Refined.  Elegant.  Best styling job that Japanese designers
>            have ever done.  Also, goes like stink, and handles well.  Best
>            interior too.  Control placement is nearly perfect, and quality
>            is high.

i agree.. i'd rather have one of these than a front engined porsche.  i
suppose it is more comfortable than the rx7 but still manages to have a
sporty edge to it.  still a little too heavy, though.  of the 3, i'd
take the mazda and thump the kidneys.


eliot

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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: My new Saturn in the shop for new transmission
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:46:24 GMT
Keywords: Saturn reliability

In article <1992Nov20.054404.18182@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>In article <Nov.19.12.41.14.1992.27793@aramis.rutgers.edu>
>rinehart@aramis.rutgers.edu (Mark J. Rinehart) writes:
>
>However, if you are deadset on buying a Japanese car, then buy
>Hondas (and Acuras) made over there.  Hondas are solid, no rattle,
>durable vehicles.  They are as solid as, well, an Integra Integra.
>Eh, Teddy?

	The most BORING cars in the world.  YES BORING, and I own one.  You
can't tell me that the Prelude Si (with 190hp) which is Honda's most powerful
car short of $29K is worth $23K.  NO sir.  My money rides in a DiamondStar or
Corrado, or even a 318is with a little less power, but MUCH more fun.


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From: kiel_jeff@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com
Subject: Whining about buying e.t.c (The Truth)
Organization: Motorola, Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:22:01 GMT

It was a joke!

I only wanted to make people laugh as well as poke fun at those who are totally
one sided on this issue.  Some of the responses really made me laugh but it has
seemed to turn a little ugly.  Japanese cars were a cheap and reliable
alternative to American cars in the early eighties but things have changed
since then.  It's hard to determine what is an "American" car anymore and the
Japanese cars are not so cheap anymore (more expensive in many cases) or that
much more reliable (sometimes less reliable).  The American manufacturers have
found out that it takes a long time to change people's minds as some people are
still comparing '69 Buicks with '92 Toyotas.  I happened to get a lemon with a
Japanese nameplate but it could have just as well have been a car with an
American nameplate.  I guess my main points were:  1) Nameplates do not mean
much anymore and 2) There are a lot of irrational people out there.

-Jeff
From: tut@cairo.Eng.Sun.COM (Bill "Bill" Tuthill)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Dealer List/Cost-Max SE/XGE-Camry LE-Volvo Gl 4dr
Date: 19 Nov 1992 02:06:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cairo

odell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bernard O'Dell) writes:
> 
> Price is a consideration-I recommended the Camry LE with the V6.
> IMHO the Max SE is also a good car but a dated design, about to
> change, and the Volvo, other than being a solid car, is not in
> the same class as the Max and the V6 LE Camry, again IMHO.

Have you looked at the Volvo 850 GLE?  I'd agree that it's not in
the same class as the Maxima and Camry-- it's at least one class
above.  It has a 5 cylinder DOHC engine that delivers 168 HP, but
still gets 22/30 EPA mileage (manual).
From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Japanese Full Size Trucks
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:05:15 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

In article <1992Nov23.041126.3213@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> Now the real man's test the Toyota can hold a 4x8 sheet of plywood flat.
|> The Ranger cannot. In fact the Toyota's payload is even larger than
|> the Dakota's(almost 2 in longer and 4 inches wider). (even the longbed
|> Ranger can't hold the plywood). Also, the Toyota can tow up to
|> 5,000lbs.
|> Don't know about the Ranger, but i bet it is less.
|> 

Don't take up gambling as a profession.  The Ranger, properly equipped in its
2WD version is rated to tow 6100 lb.  The 4wd version, properly equipped, is
rated to tow 5800 lb.


-- 
Alan Hepburn           "An ignorant person is one who doesn't know
National Semiconductor       what you have just found out."
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alan@berlioz.nsc.com                              Will Rogers
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:01:15 -0500 
From: Jyri Virkki <jyri+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Raising the limit
 <1dv7t6INNr6h@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> <1992Nov13.175859.4771@news.mentorg.com>
	<1e4qotINN2il@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>

aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
> 
> >being built with acceptable handling. The only modern car I've been in
> >that became twitchy after 70 or so was the Geo Metro.
>                      ~~~~~~~~~              ^^^^^^^^^
> tail wind??..or down hill??..or both???..AROUND 70, no prob..AFTER 70..in 
> a metro???...( :-) for those of us.....)
> DREW

Well, a while ago I had a rental car that was a Metro station wagon,
three cylinder, automatic (couldn't posibly get worse than that
configuration) and it didn't have much trouble achieving 85 or so.

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From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Subject: Ford lemons
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:26:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.220428.1174@ampex.com> davel@ampex.com (Dave Larkins) writes:

. . .  long and extremely well-written lwtter to Ford Motor Company
oomitted . . .  All except two paragraphs, which I cannot resist reposting:

>	The story continues with numerous issues such as water pump 
>failure, head gasket blown, A/C failure and again, more of the plastic 
>parts used in the vehicle just disintegrating as though they were 
>being attacked by some alien bacteria. Here in California there is 
>much emphasis placed on the fact that plastics are a severe problem 
>in our landfills because of their slowness to decompose, if the Ford 
>Motor Co. has a solution to this problem, perhaps they could report it 
>to the Environmental Protection Agency, rather than experimenting 
>with paying customers.

I *love* it!!!  [stuff deleted]

>	In conclusion, I feel that your advertising campaign expressing 
>the fact that quality is the number one issue with Ford is misleading 
>and incorrect, in particular with the vehicle and service that I have 
>purchased from Ford. 

>Regards		davel@ampex.com

I, too, used to drive a Ford.  It gives me the greatest pleasure in the
world to say, when I hear "Have you driven a Ford lately"  **NO!  Hah!
Got a Saturn instead!"

Deborah Nunn
nunn@sura.net
From: PNCSPPC@ccvax1.cc.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Ultrasonic deer repellent whistles
Date: 21 Nov 1992 11:15:26 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Do those ultrasonic deer repellent whistles that you mount on the front
bumper really work?  Supposedly, they will also repel dogs and other animals,
too.  I was thinking about getting a pair since where my parents live
there are a lot of deer, and I'd prefer not to have one jump in front of my
car.  However, it seems as though it wouldn't be very easy to test the
efficacy of these things.  Any comments?
 
 
Phil Calvert
 
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From: carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: G20 vs. Altima, Fast vs. Slow
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:43:37 GMT
	<1992Nov17.082314.29660@leland.Stanford.EDU>
	<Nov17.091859.12108@engr.washington.edu>
	<1992Nov17.192837.7711@oakhill.sps.mot.com>
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: shantanu@oakhill.sps.mot.com's message of 17 Nov 92 19:28:37 GMT


On the G20 vs Intergra issue.

No one has mentioned that the G20 has a LOT more interior room than
the Integra.  I test drove an Integra and felt like I was in a sardine
can.  The G20 felt very nice (even though it's a nice small car - 175
inches long) and has a LOT of interior room and even a good sized
trunk!

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From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.)
Subject: Re: Gatorback tires
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:42:32 GMT


>>I have 1 89 Probe GT with 15 inch rims and Gatorback tires (High Speed).

>>Any suggestions for possible substitutions that won't cost $250 a piece??

>  Dunlop D40M2.  Same or better grip in the dry, substantially better grip
>  in the wet.  As miserable as the Goodyear Gatorback in the snow (but
>  isn't that half the fun?), V or H rating (as I recall) available and
>  about $150 each. 

>	Herb "Mopar Maniac" DaSilva

Anyone tried BFG Comp T/A VR4's?  I have heard good things about them,
in wet, rain, and snow.  Not all that many bucks either.

Mike
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From: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Subject: Re: Whining about buying American cars
Reply-To: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:59:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.151852.18942@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com>, c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov20.134043.16084@bnr.ca> dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton) writes:
|> >|> >Let's drag it out into the sunlight.  You'd rather help feed a kid from
|> >|> >Detroit than a kid from Tsutsumi.  Is this not racism?
|> >|> 
|> >|> No, it's patriotism.
|> >
|> >Which is a far more dangerous problem than racism.
|> 
|> [Semi-cute Canadian flag rendition deleted]
|> 
|> And your flag display is not patriotic, right? 

No, it's a joke.  I guess you don't watch baseball (the marines marched out with an
upside Canadian flag when the Jays played in the U.S.).  If I was patriotic I would 
have put a U.S. flag upside down, to indicate that I was insulted by them putting 
our flag upside down.  I put ours upside to indicate that I thought it was funny.

Can't believe I had to explain this :)

Don Clayton
a.k.a. Admiral Maverick, DM of the Drow
My brain, my thoughts, my words.
If I had a million dollars, I'd buy you a K-car (a nice reliant automobile),
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From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Flag Waiving (Re: Whining about buying American cars)
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:47:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: kocrsv01.1992Nov17.154721.27273
Followup-To: alt.flame
Distribution: usa
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <1992Nov17.144352.23721@bnr.ca> dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton) writes:
>I'm willing to work on building a good product to do it instead of waving 
> a flag and whinning.  

[...]

>Yes it is time you realized that you are in a world economy and waving 
> a flag to support a product has no substance. 

[...]

>Don Clayton

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Yo, Don, who's waving more flags than YOU?

For Gawd's sake, you win a Superbowl and it's like the end of the world as
we know it... Imagine if you succeed in something more important, i.e.
in lowering the stiff taxes you folks pay (you know, the ones that
force each and every Canadian to take monthly pilgrim tours to the
Buffalo, NY Service Merchandise and Target stores to avoid paying 
taxes on Walkman and the such...)

As for *your* choice for a Japanese car, I heard it scores dead last in
all the comparisons with its (equally Japanese) brethren... What gives?

Sorry for the personal flame; I just can't stand calling everyone else
a flag waiver and sticking a canadian flag in your .sig. The only one 
worse than that is the guy asking whether to buy a Camry or an Accord
with an equally elaborate 10-line American flag in his .sig. Happened
last year, we all got a good laugh at it at the office.

Cheers,

Spiros (not waiving any flags at the present)


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From: qazi8906@ee.uwm.edu (Aamir Qazi)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: G20 vs. SL2
Date: 24 Nov 1992 00:34:04 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33

> If you don't like the Altima, fine!  Choose Nissan's other fine
> offering in the sedan market, the Infiniti G20.  List prices are
> one thing, but brand new 1993 G20's can be had for $16,000. 
> That includes all power accessories and ABS.  Why choose the 
> typical Accord or Camry when you could have one of the world's
> best handling sedans? 

Been watching too much TV have we ? ? ? Take a good hard test drive in
a Saturn SL2 and then talk about handling in a small sedan.


 You get a free loaner, roadside assistance,
> etc.  If you wanted a European sedan like a Passat or a 318i but
> wanted Japanese durability, look no further. 

No - keep looking until you reach your nearest Saturn dealer. Same loaner
policy, same roadside assistance, lower price, made in USA.
> 
CD

If you're looking for a smallER sedan, the Saturn SL2 is a good choice.
However, the Saturn is a class lower in size and price; it competes with
Civics and Proteges.  The Infiniti competes with Accords, 626's and Jetta
GLI's.  Although they are close in length, the Infiniti is a cab-forward   
design; as a result, it seats four adults much more comfortably than the
Saturn.  Also, the Infiniti's engine does not sound like a chain saw when
revved.  Again, if my budget were in the low teens, then the Saturn would
be near the top of my list, but you are comparing apples with oranges.


--Aamir Qazi
  mail to: qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


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From: ui68@linus.umd.edu (Bill Kyte)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Who's gotta Low Rider?
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:19:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park



	Hey how's everyone doing out there in net world?  I'm lookin' for 
people who are ridin' around town with their bottoms chafein.  I know someone
out there has gotta have the same love of lowered vehicles that I have.  So
lets gets some conversations goin'.  Just respond to alt.autos.rod-n-custom.
  This news group is to include customs and those Muscle cars. I just wanna hereabout the lowered minis and cars, but if you have intersts in customizing ve-
hicles please feel free to respond. I have a lowered down  84 Toyota
long bed with a slammmin paint job and a BOOMIN system.
I don't wanna here any complaints about them, just people who enjoy them!

                         -Peace out
                               
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