From: rshvern@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (K-rAd d00D!)
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:55:35 GMT

>Morbid Angel -
> Now you may think these guys are a cool death metal band but I was
> reading in guitar world magazine that Trey Azogthoth's all time favorite
> guitarist was Eddie Van Halen and his all time favorite group was Van
> Halen. He pciked Van Halen I as the greatest metal album ever. Also he
> said that groups such as Napalm Death sucked since no grindcore band had
> any talent. The other guitarist (can't remember his name) said in a
> later interview that Ace Frehley was his favorite guitarist. Thus this
> band should not be listened to. Any posts about this band on the bboard
> should be considered the posts of posuers and should be flamed.

Their music is good, but they are supposedly ego-maniacs and are really
obsessed with their image.  Also supposedly have walked out on gigs
saying they didn't feel like playing or something like that.  Their
guitarist was going to quit over the image thing, but he is still there
so they may tone it down a bit.

As for the problem you have with the guitarist liking Van Halen, who did
you expect him to like as a guitarist? Satan? Absu Mummu Tiamat? 5-10
years ago music sucked and was relatively docile.  Production was decent
only in the major commercial type music.  

I also wouldn't call Napalm Death grindcore anymore, grindcore IMO is
mostly snare, speed, and low budjet production.  Do any grindcore fans
have a better definition?


> Slayer
> An obvious poseur band. For one thing they do not like death metal
> since they consider this music to take everything to ridiculous extremes
> (this was said in an interview with RIP). Also Seasons in the Abyss was
> an obvious sellout. And they like the rap group the Geto Boys and anyone
> that likes rap is an obvious poseur, no repreieve.

So what if they don't like death metal? What they do works because it is
has a totally different feel.  Do you think any death metal band could
do an album like Reign in Blood? Seasons in the Abyss has a nice feel to
it, although its not their greatest.  I've never heard the Geto Boys,
but anyone liking a specific band is not a poseur, maybe they have a
broader musical taste than other people.

> Obituary
> Metal music is supposed to be about the dark side of life but this band
> never uses any real lyrics to their songs, John Tardy just sort of
> grunts. Thus not a metal band

You are dead wrong here.  I have been a big time Obituary fan for years,
and since have been able to figure out his 'accent'.  There are indeed
vocals, I would suggest listening to Cause of Death in which several of
the vocals are printed in the CD booklet.  I think I have figured out
about 25-50% of the lyrics which is among the best for death metal
without lyrics.  Most of their lyrics seem to be about
instinctual/homicidal killings as well as suffering in the afterlife.
You need a good ear to figure these lyrics out.


Most of the rest of the bands are pretty lame, a total waste of time to
listen to, although you left out GnR, a big time offender as these guys
are totally about bullshit rebellion.  I believe that is the best phrase
to describe this group of losers.  

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