HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jont@cs.su.oz.au (Jonathon Earnshaw Tidswell)
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Reply-To: jont@cs.su.oz.au (Jonathon Earnshaw Tidswell)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:40:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.125224.28316@ugle.unit.no> gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) wrote:
| 
| /set exec_protection off
| /on -notice nickserv /exec -msg echo help
| /msg nickserv help
| 
| Now watch him flood... (this one was tested on convserv because NickServ was
| down when I tried it, but it should have the same effect on NicServ as on
| ConvServ, or what?)
| 
Gard,
Ah it might help if you considered who is actually flooding.
You are asking *serv for help.
And then you are askign again and again and ...
It seems to me you are flooding it with requests for help ...
So if you get lots of answers back that is desirable, after all it is just
recognising YOUR call for help.

I do not think the authors of nickserv expected it to be abused,
nickserv is older than this hassle with lame 'bots by lame people.
It is probably possible to make tehm ignore duplicate requests from the
same person in some time interval, but that could be a lot of code just
to deal with sh1ts like ... you ? ... doing what you did.

You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make it drink.

*sigh*
Ernie
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson)
Subject: Re: [*] Irc Statistics (Idle)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:58:30 GMT

In article <83677@ut-emx.uucp> dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:

>
>>*** CTCP FINGER reply from toocool: Xavier O'Neal,STORMS
>>+   10,(515)296-9253,(515)296-9253,Zay (toocool@pv7b86.vincent.iastate.edu)
>>+   Idle 1171989 seconds
>
>     *** CTCP FINGER reply from toocool: Xavier O'Neal,STORMS
>     +10,(515)296-9253,(515)296-9253,Zay (toocool@pv7b86.vincent.iastate.edu) Idle
>     +1503773 seconds
>  
>toocool is probably either a bot, or somebody who's forgotten all about this
>client (intentionally or accidentally ...) ...

I logged into the computer, and lo and behold, it is NOT a bot, but a
foreground process..... Who knows what its status is....
BTW.. the idle time on the computer jives with the idle time from irc
I say its time to put this lost process out of its misery....

hop


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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: Chuck Adams <chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov>
Subject: Re: macintosh irc client needed
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:23:55 GMT

In article <lg49enINN8vm@tokio.cs.utexas.edu> stevem@cs.utexas.edu (Steve
Anthony Mariotti) writes:

>Homer, however, is a complete work of art.  All other Macintosh IRC clients
>pale completely in comparison.  From the handy dandy features to the eye-
>popping visuals, it absolutely can't be beat.  I've used ircle, Yakkity Yak,
>and Homer, and Homer is DEFINATELY the way to go.
>
>Get it and use it, you won't regret it.  The current authorized most-recent-
>version is 0.87 but the programmer might let you have a sneak peak at 0.88
>which features some really nice enhancements if you're really nice to him
>and give him some high-altitude baking tips.
>
>Seriously:  if you have a Mac and you IRC, get homer.  It's available on
>zaphod.ee.pitt.edu in the /pub directory in both serial and TCP/IP versions.
>
>Steve
>
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A word of caution:  Homer is ONLY compatible with System 7........sigh


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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Organization: MRIH, More og Romsdal Ingeniorhogskole
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:46:57 GMT

Herman H. Fredriksson (herm@coombs.anu.edu.au) wrote:
: avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au (Darren Reed) writes:
: 
: >p.s. its not uncommon for people to have trouble getting posting working
: >     when they first use news.  Quite often they get lumped with rn and
: >     postnews <(I'm not saing there is anything wrong with postnews! :-)>
: >     which can be not nice to use first time.
: 
: He used tin, it shows quite blatently in the X-Newsreader header.
: Now, if this "non-computerhead" can find the H (for help.. Oooooo) key
: he can find help, and maybe he might notice that the reason why he cant
: followup to some of the postings is that they have "followup-to: dev.null"
: 
When there is a redirected followup to dev.null, I get a warning about this.
Therefore, the followup was not redirected to dev.null. Read my lips: you
have to know my setup before you can be sure enough to comment on how silly
I am. Gee! You sound like my brother. He logged in on guest on unix1 another
day and was wondering why the heck things weren't EXACTLY as he was used to.
What the hell was vi, and what the hell was emacs? Why couldn't he get the
editor he was used to?

/Gard - Say no to unattended disclaimers.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: bosman@fwi.uva.nl (Cor Bosman)
Subject: Re: yes or no? (bot deopping)
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:36:56 GMT

rmn9458@rigel.tamu.edu (rebecca) writes:

>I have a question for the ircops and experienced irc users:
>when there is a net-split, people on channels can be separated.
>If someone creates a channel by that name while the split is 
>occuring, they get automatic op status. (with me so far?)
>Ok, the question is, when the two reconnect, is it or is it not right
>for a bot on one to deop ops on the other?
>[this bot is "permanently" in the channel to guard it and only makes certain
> people ops, so if the new op isnt on its list it deops
>them immmediatly]
>I understand its purpose (to prevent people from taking advantage of net-splits
>and messing up the channel; they are possessive of their channel by the way)
>but is it correct and is that grounds for being killed by an ircop?

For me, its not ok to kill for modechanges. (unless they are
megabans and megakicks and such...)
But I know other ops might think differently.

cor
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Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.ircii
From: mkwg9074@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M. K. Weaver)
Subject: Re: Avalog arrested....
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 04:16:49 GMT

mark@coombs.anu.edu.au (Mark) writes:

>I wrote:

>Onwards... (You can tell I'm enjoying this cant you :)
	
	mkwg@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (M.]<.Weaver) writes:
	Replying in the Ever-Questioning-Child Mode:

>]From: fascists@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (SNUB HQ)

	Daddy, what's a fascist?
	<I don't know if it is just that I never paid
	any attention when history concerning this
	term is discussed or if I just forget that there
	are actually people who aren't respectful and
	considerate to all people.>

>]AO:	What hackers?

	Daddy, what are hackers?
	<Can I quote you? I have this paper due in
	Telecommunications class, discussing hackers,
	ethics, and whether these have changed much
	since the MIT days Steven Levy mentioned in
	his book Hackers.>

>]AO:	What vanity ops?

	Daddy, what are vanity ops?
	<Do you know what the difference is between someone who
	is tired of you looking at them and someone who is VAIN
	and tired of you looking at them?>


>]Copyright 1992 #FOFH. All rights reserved.
>]Mail all flames to fascists@cbme.unsw.edu.au

	bfn,
	Monica
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: scott@sfi.santafe.edu (Scott D. Yelich)
Subject: Re: People who take VR too seriously...
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 18:24:53 GMT
Organization: Santa Fe Institute
Distribution: alt


>>Mail any questions to hrose@eff.org
>	   Now, I (being an *ex* csd ircop) find this *intensely* amusing.
> It's like IRC almost *means* something in the real world.  Resumes?  Get
> real.  References?  Do they want to make sure that the new op won't run
> around exploiting bugs to crash things?  If so, then ckd ought to lose
> his op right now; I've *watched* him do that in the olden days.

Hey, it's OK for the Elite to do that (and to cancel news posts).
It's still extremely funny to see that much effort being put into a
puppet server admin.

Apply if you want but understand that you must supply your own strings.
(Think about it)

>  Relevant experience?  *snort*

That part should read:  Only IRC Elite need apply-- pucker up.

> "Laughing and chortling and giggling uncontrollably at the thought of
>  what an IRCop interview might be like..."

Yup.....

``Do you promise not to do the things I have done?''
"uh huh"
``Understand that if you ever do anything I don't like... your access
  will disappear faster than you can /ctcp brownose me?''
"uh huh"
``Kiss my @$$ !!! You've got 19ms ....''
*SMOOCH*
``Next!''

Scott
ps:  Anyone want to make a "killer" IRC Op "admission" quiz?  Complete with
     true to life routing disasters .... etc?
From: titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 09:07:10 GMT
Organization: Coombs Computing Unit, Australian National University, Canberra.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user on Coombs at ANU. The
              opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily
              those of the Australian National University.

gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>titus chiu (titus@coombs.anu.edu.au) wrote:
>: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:
>: 
>: >from samson, vi (which is the silly editor tin uses on unix1) does no longer
>: >recognize the cursor keys, and editing anything is impossible. I can at best
>: 
>: just because you don't know how to use vi doesn't make it silly, and i dont
>: see why anybody would want to know how you telnet from one place to another
>: on irc anyway.
      ^^^
my mistake, i meant to say alt.irc

>Vi is awful anyhow, with a load of escape key commands. I mean seriously:

Just because you cannot comprehend a 'load of escape key commands' does
not make an editor awful or silly, you are of course entitled to your
opinions. I can understand now why you have not listened to herm's warning
on the faults of your bot, you cannot comprehend it.

>Escape x for delete? It's rediculous. And I wan't telnetting from irc, but

u could actually do dd for delete line, dw for delete word and just x for
delete char.

>Gard - say ... to ...

titus
!titus! Say NO to unattended bots
!herm*! Jup!@#!
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Public access telnettable irc site
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
..path: rsrodger
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:09:35 GMT

	Well, since our local ircserver is toast, I am going to ask
	a very simple, probably oft-repeated question which didn;t
	seem to be addressed in the faq.

	For those of us who do not have IRC access, but _do_ have
	telnet access, are there any systems I can telnet to that
	offer public access to the irc?

	Goonsquad.bbs.spies.com is gone, and I never used it anyway
	(our local server only went out about two weeks ago) and
	bradenville.andrew.cmu.edu really bites.  I'm not knocking it,
	at least it is there, but it's a real pain to use.  (I don;t 
	so much miss the / commands [although I do] so much as not having
	to type /msg #[conf] texttexttext every time I want to say 
	something.  Macros are nice, but it's still a frustration.

	Compiling a client is _not_ an option for me. 

	Anyone have any thoughts?  I could have sworn there were at
	least three others that offered it [and they couldn't be 
	worse than bradenville] but that little piece of paper I wrote
	them down on seems to have vanished.



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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs !
Date: 17 Nov 1992 07:00:00 GMT
Organization: Coombs Computing Unit, Australian National University, Canberra.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user on Coombs at ANU. The
              opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily
              those of the Australian National University.

gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen) writes:

>Okay! Let me get this straight.

>1) ALL bots, even nickserv and noteserv and the alike, have the potential of
>   flooding the net and should be removed.

If that is the case, humans can flood the net too, they should be removed,
oh, servers can flood the net too, remove them too, there, your problem
solved. Of course, in reality, nickserv and noteserv cannot/does not get
into a dead loop with another user/bot, compared to your bot which can,
and that is the point that herm have tried to make, but of course, you
don't want to listen to that, and want to remove nickserv and noteserv.

>2) Everyone using IRCii has the potential of flooding the channel and should
>   not IRC.

very good. you first.

[a whole lot of other crap deleted]

>GET REAL!

get some clues please.

>/Gard - "Say no to disclaimers"

titus
(Say NO to unattended bots)

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: mappler@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matthew A Appler)
Subject: Re: And on the subject of Internet bandwidth...
Organization: /usr/users/user4/mappler/.organization
	<1992Nov23.022933.22197@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:50:35 GMT

What's to say this person didn't neccessarily log into irc on his free
time?  Who do you think has payed for a lot of your irc time?  It most
likely isn't you....You're at boston u, and uva respectivly.  Do you
think that your tuition, and or your schools money, payed for all the
internet resources?  No...much government financing did.  Therefore,
everytime you irc you are always using a telnet package I payed for.
Irc can be a valuable medium for information exchange.  Many people I
know are trying to figure out/create uses for it.  Just because the
majority of it is idle wastes of time, doesn't mean it all is...and it
doesn't mean that others don't have any business there....why don't
you evaluate your own usage before you judge others...

This isn't intended as a flame.....I just don't  like to see things
degrade down to a juvenile level....  Keep typing....

  Matt
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From: jardar@swix.ifi.unit.no (Jardar Eggesboe Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Organization: University of Trondheim, Norway
Distribution: alt.irc
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 12:00:51 GMT


titus chiu (titus@coombs.anu.edu.au) wrote:
: jardar@swix.ifi.unit.no (Jardar Eggesboe Abrahamsen) writes:
: 
: >1) herm has not been raised properly,
: >2) herm just wants to be rude,
: >3) herm doesn't have even a quarter of a brain.
: >
: >Maybe it would be an idea to behave, even if this is alt.irc. This applies
: >to everyone.
: 
: i can see you are being perfectly nice and behaving here.
: 
: titus

I see you got the point :-)
Let's hope you're not the only one.

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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: goodrum@unccsun.uncc.edu (Cloyd Goodrum)
Subject: Re: I need a irc server listing AND the FAQ.
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:16:12 GMT

In article <24014@galaxy.ucr.edu> wwallace@ucrengr.ucr.edu (wayne wallace) writes:
>Like the subject says: I need a irc server listing AND the FAQ.
>
>I don't read this group normally, so if some kind soul would just email
>them to me, I'd be quite happy.

	I would also be interested in the same info. Thanx.





Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: troy@cbme.unsw.EDU.AU (Troy Rollo)
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs ! (Services)
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:36:27 GMT

From article <1992Nov16.133140.633@ugle.unit.no>, by gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen):
> Mmmm.... As I understand it, wouldn't local services be a waste of bandwidth?

No, they save it. Why do you think I regionalised ircIIhelp?

Regionalised vanity bots, on the other hand, would be a waste of bandwidth
because they cost more than they could ever save.
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From: lcm1501@hertz.njit.edu (Lawrence C. Mc Abee)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Supidity of the Lambs ! (Services)
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:34:34 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1ea5g2INN5nl@manuel.anu.edu.au> titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu) writes:
	[delete]
>
>No it wouldn't, thus you dont understand it. You might also like to 
>understand how to only quote the relevant parts if you are so concerned 
>about bandwidth.

	Speaking about wasting bandwidth, I would like to thank you Titus
 for taking so much care in not doing that yourself. That lovely wall message
 to all of *.edu about some idiots birthday really touched me, and was well
 worth the HUGE waste in bandwidth.

			Lawrence C Mc Abee.
			(say NO to idiots)

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From: titus@coombs.anu.edu.au (titus chiu)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Bots, WarBots, Fun?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 08:20:05 GMT
Organization: Coombs Computing Unit, Australian National University, Canberra.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.76.2
Keywords: bots, are, lame.
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user on Coombs at ANU. The
              opinions expressed are those of the user and not necessarily
              those of the Australian National University.

jardar@swix.ifi.unit.no (Jardar Eggesboe Abrahamsen) writes:

>1) herm has not been raised properly,
>2) herm just wants to be rude,
>3) herm doesn't have even a quarter of a brain.
>
>Maybe it would be an idea to behave, even if this is alt.irc. This applies
>to everyone.

i can see you are being perfectly nice and behaving here.

titus
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: dms50304@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Darkman)
Subject: Re: Avalon arrested!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:25:20 GMT

mark@coombs.anu.edu.au (Mark) writes:

>Someone cancelled it on coombs... (strangely enuff it's where you know 
>who sits most of the time) Subtle? Nah.

I never got to read it either.  Apparently it was cancelled here at UIUC too.
So I believe it was probably the author who canceled it.

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Newsgroups: alt.irc.ircii
From: Carl.von.Loesch@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Carl von Loesch)
Subject: Re: SMALL ircII client
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:18:16 GMT

buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen) writes:
>But not ircII, never will be.

I take this as a challenge.   :)
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From: palmerbh@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (The Dark One)
Subject: Re: SMALL ircII client
Summary: zip, lha, etc...
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:45:16 GMT

In article <1dvlfpINN7sp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cl209@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Asa E. Rossoff) writes:
>
>In a previous article, buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen) says:
>
>>>I'm looking for an IRC client that is < 200k... does such a thing exist? :)

Well, if you use compression-archivers such as zip on the whole thing, in
the right way, you can shrink 700K worth of client and library files into a
little over 200K, then use a shell script to open the whole thing into
/tmp, or some other 'temperary' directory where space isn't a problem, if
your system has such a thing.

I recomend shar-irng all the help and script files, then zipping the shar
file and the rest of the files together, using the highest compression you
can get.

I'm sure you can figure out how to write the shell script to explode all
that into usable form, so I won't bother posting my script, unless people
are interested in my example.

-TD1
Newsgroups: alt.irc