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From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amsat
Subject: Orbital Elements  242.OSCAR
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:04:33 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.

HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES
FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   August 29, 1992  BID:$ORBS-242.O
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

Satellite: AO-10
Catalog number: 14129
Epoch time:      92227.67653450
Element set:     889
Inclination:       26.7268 deg
RA of node:        68.9017 deg
Eccentricity:    0.6028962
Arg of perigee:     8.6060 deg
Mean anomaly:     358.5849 deg
Mean motion:    2.05882051 rev/day
Decay rate:       -3.7e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            4098
Checksum:              332

Satellite: UO-11
Catalog number: 14781
Epoch time:      92237.55603125
Element set:     296
Inclination:       97.8467 deg
RA of node:       270.6227 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0010859
Arg of perigee:   224.6285 deg
Mean anomaly:     135.4048 deg
Mean motion:   14.68640916 rev/day
Decay rate:       3.61e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           45317
Checksum:              319

Satellite: RS-10/11
Catalog number: 18129
Epoch time:      92240.68925693
Element set:     315
Inclination:       82.9250 deg
RA of node:        95.5529 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0013183
Arg of perigee:    54.6377 deg
Mean anomaly:     305.5944 deg
Mean motion:   13.72292947 rev/day
Decay rate:       1.75e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           25959
Checksum:              336

Satellite: AO-13
Catalog number: 19216
Epoch time:      92239.80873106
Element set:     444
Inclination:       57.1832 deg
RA of node:         5.2305 deg
Eccentricity:    0.7292519
Arg of perigee:   294.6349 deg
Mean anomaly:       8.6889 deg
Mean motion:    2.09720804 rev/day
Decay rate:      -1.34e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            3218
Checksum:              310

Satellite: FO-20
Catalog number: 20480
Epoch time:      92231.73786198
Element set:     381
Inclination:       99.0714 deg
RA of node:       138.6430 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0541439
Arg of perigee:    51.4046 deg
Mean anomaly:     313.4279 deg
Mean motion:   12.83212927 rev/day
Decay rate:       -4.0e-08 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           11852
Checksum:              295

Satellite: AO-21
Catalog number: 21087
Epoch time:      92238.86720641
Element set:     487
Inclination:       82.9423 deg
RA of node:       271.3611 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0036632
Arg of perigee:   123.1789 deg
Mean anomaly:     237.2842 deg
Mean motion:   13.74491867 rev/day
Decay rate:        7.8e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            7887
Checksum:              332

Satellite: RS-12/13
Catalog number: 21089
Epoch time:      92239.19766336
Element set:     299
Inclination:       82.9276 deg
RA of node:       140.8676 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0028843
Arg of perigee:   143.9214 deg
Mean anomaly:     216.3897 deg
Mean motion:   13.73999085 rev/day
Decay rate:        4.5e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            7801
Checksum:              354

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@ips.OZ.AU                  ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave
From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amsat
Subject: AO-13 TRANSPONDER SCHEDULES
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:04:20 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.

HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 242.06 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD AUGUST 29, 1992     BID: $ANS-242.06
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

G3RUH Provides Current & Future AO-13 Operating Schedules

 L G3RUH/DB2OS/VK5AGR  *** Future  AO-13 Transponder Schedule ***
 Mode-B  : MA   0 to MA  40 !     from  1992 Aug 17 - Sep 21
 Mode-S  : MA  40 to MA  50 !<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF!
 Mode-LS : MA  50 to MA  55 !<- S beacon + L transponder
 Mode-JL : MA  55 to MA  70 !   This schedule operates
 Mode-B  : MA  70 to MA 256 !   every orbit, every day.
 Omnis   : MA 160 to MA  10 !     Blon/Blat 150/0

Mode B users are reminded that at MA 40, the Mode B transponder will be
heard to go OFF with a click.  Although you will still hear the Mode B bea-
con, do not attempt to uplink as you will get no Mode B response; however,
you could interfere with Mode S.  Mode B returns at MA 70.

Note too that this schedule operates every orbit, every day.

The next event will commence on 1992 Sep 21 [Mon] with a move to attitude
180/0 with a B/JL/S schedule. The schedule will be as follows:

M G3RUH/DB2OS/VK5AGR  *** Future  AO-13 Transponder Schedule ***
Mode-B  : MA   0 to MA 130 !     from  1992 Sep 21 - Nov 23
Mode-S  : MA 130 to MA 140 !<- S transponder; B trsp. is OFF!
Mode-LS : MA 140 to MA 145 !<- S beacon + L transponder
Mode-JL : MA 145 to MA 160 !   This schedule operates
Mode-B  : MA 160 to MA 256 !   every orbit, every day.
Omnis   : MA 235 to MA  30 !     Blon/Blat 180/0

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Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@ips.OZ.AU                  ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave
From: dave@ips.oz.au (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amsat
Subject: Orbital Elements  249.MISC
Date: 7 Sep 92 00:05:18 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.

HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR MANNED AND MISCELLANEOUS SATELLITES
FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   September 5, 1992  BID:$ORBS-249.M
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

Satellite: MIR
Catalog number: 16609
Epoch time:      92247.52913401
Element set:     531
Inclination:       51.6223 deg
RA of node:       215.8061 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0004079
Arg of perigee:   111.5093 deg
Mean anomaly:     248.6459 deg
Mean motion:   15.53736591 rev/day
Decay rate:      7.306e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           37446
Checksum:              293

Satellite: HUBBLE
Catalog number: 20580
Epoch time:      92246.56181873
Element set:     843
Inclination:       28.4693 deg
RA of node:       116.5660 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0004725
Arg of perigee:   267.8894 deg
Mean anomaly:      92.1129 deg
Mean motion:   14.91718526 rev/day
Decay rate:       9.47e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           12851
Checksum:              325

Satellite: GRO
Catalog number: 21225
Epoch time:      92247.23724223
Element set:     677
Inclination:       28.4614 deg
RA of node:       209.6056 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0006157
Arg of perigee:    59.0886 deg
Mean anomaly:     301.0323 deg
Mean motion:   15.60037811 rev/day
Decay rate:     1.0757e-04 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            8018
Checksum:              277

Satellite: SARA
Catalog number: 21578
Epoch time:      92239.73732592
Element set:     311
Inclination:       98.5079 deg
RA of node:       314.5200 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0005717
Arg of perigee:    97.4465 deg
Mean anomaly:     262.7372 deg
Mean motion:   14.37882432 rev/day
Decay rate:       5.81e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            5840
Checksum:              310

Satellite: UARS
Catalog number: 21701
Epoch time:      92235.16609408
Element set:     179
Inclination:       56.9891 deg
RA of node:       299.9089 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0004813
Arg of perigee:    88.1664 deg
Mean anomaly:     272.0055 deg
Mean motion:   14.96350401 rev/day
Decay rate:     -1.169e-05 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            5153
Checksum:              310

-- 
Dave Horsfall (VK2KFU)         VK2KFU @ VK2RWI.NSW.AUS.OC
dave@ips.OZ.AU                  ...munnari!ips.OZ.AU!dave
Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: jeff@DIALix.oz.au (Jeff Johnson)
Subject: Re: UUCP
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 06:40:53 GMT
Keywords: does the AUUG provide UUCP site(s)?

In <srn.716430196@minnie> srn@cs.su.oz.au (Stephen Robert Norris) writes:


>	Does the AUUG provide dialup UUCP connections?  In Sydney?

>	Does anyone?

>	Stephen

DIALix does as from this week sometime. It will be a local (Sydney) call
with modem speeds up to 9600 v.32.

Call me.


JJ

Jeff Johnson (jeff@DIALix.oz.au)		DIALix Services
Phone (09) 244-3233 modem			Box 371
Phone (09) 244-2433 voice (All Hours)		South Perth 6151
Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: fbm@ptcburp.ptcbu.oz.au (Farrell McKay)
Newsgroups: aus.auug
Subject: NEXT QUUG Meeting, Tue 29 September, 1992
Keywords: QUUG, AUUG, Windows NT, Corroboree
Date: 10 Sep 92 05:25:35 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corporation

I have been asked to post this notice on behalf of Norm Bumbieris:

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
The next meeting of the Queensland Unix Users Group will be held at
The Regatta Hotel, Coronation Drive, Toowong, Qld on
Tuesday evening the 29 September, 1992 at 7pm.

Guest speaker at this forthcoming meeting will be Microsoft
who will be giving a presentation on their Windows NT Operating System.

The meeting is open to everyone and as such we would request
that an RSVP be forwarded together with a contact fax or phone
number to Microsoft Brisbane by fax on 221 9898 or to Tim
Butterfield by fax on 279 0249 by Friday the 18 September so
that an estimate of numbers may be made.

Further details may be obtained from Tim on 279 0149

Norm Bumbieris
Chairman QUUG
------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Be there, or be square.
Farrell.
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Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: ggr@koonda.acci.com.au (Greg Rose)
Subject: Re: kre - what's it stand for ..
Keywords: kre,aus,trivia
Organization: Australian Computing and Communications Institute
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:27:33 GMT

In article <chris.715846554@suite.sw.oz.au> chris@suite.sw.oz.au (Chris Maltby) writes:
>In <jason.715838324@coombs> jason@coombs.anu.edu.au (jason..) writes:
>
>>I (and a few other people) have often wondered what kre expands to
>>as it doesnt seem to be 'Robert Elz' .. so what is it ?
>>
>>1) King Robert Elz ? :-)
>>2) Kernigan, Ritchie, Elz ?
>>3) ??
>
>This was the subject of a competition at a long ago AUUG conference
>in Melbourne. There are some who know the answer, but they'll only
>tell over a (shouted) beer or two at the AUUG conference next week.
>
>It's not Karl...

That's not true. I know, and don't drink beer; it has to be wine or
spirits. Also, I have it on good authority that Glenn Huxtable has a
photo of k. Robert Elz being held down by a number of innocent
bystanders at the '86 AUUG conference. He keeps it pinned to the
inside of his overcoat.
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ggr@acci.com.au                                              +61 3 282 2532
"If you ever do that again, I'll cut you out of my will!"
		    -- Captain Ross to Co-pilot Gann, "Fate is the Hunter"
Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: ianh@resmel.bhp.com.au (Ian Hoyle)
Subject: well it's over ....
Organization: BHP Research - Melbourne Laboratories, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:34:49 GMT

It's all over! AUUG '92 that is.

Thanx to all the delegates who made it into a *very* successful
event ..... and what a dinner !?!?!? More balloons than you could
poke a stick at :-)  Pity I can't remember more of it .....

Highlights. Well for my money it would have to be

- Bruce Nelson's two talks on his Auspex NFS file server and
  on his crystal ball gazing look at current computer trends and 'standards'

- Keith Bostic's paper on the new BSD log structured file system

- Peter Elford's SNMP talk

- Craig Bishop's expose on the use of the Epoch (expletive included, eh
  Craig !! :-)

Now to catch up on that well earned sleep.

Till next year ....

	ian
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Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: jc@quark.ansto.gov.au (Jagoda Crawford)
Subject: AUUGN Cover Competition
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:26:30 GMT

Just a reminder to all you budding artists that the AUUGN Cover Design
competition closes at the end of AUUG92.  So far I have received a whole
zero entries (come on someone must be able to draw out there).

See the last issue of AUUGN (V13#4) for more details or contact the editor:

	Jagoda Crawford
	Phone:	(02) 717 3885
	E-mail:	auugn@munnari.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: glenn@cs.uwa.oz.au (Glenn Huxtable)
Subject: Re: Address to join AUUG (Adelaide)
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, University of Western Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 01:38:14 GMT

In <18nn5uINNksb@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> dclunie@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (David Clunie) writes:


>Would someone be able to let me know to whom I should talk in
>order to join the AUUG and the Adelaide branch if it exists ?

>Thanks.
>-- 
>David Clunie (dclunie@itd.adelaide.edu.au)

To join AUUG, contact the AUUG secretariat (Peter Wishart's reply gave details).

Regarding an Adelaide chapter...

There isn't an AUUG chapter in Adelaide (yet). 

There have (and will be) AUUG activities in Adelaide, and there are plans to 
begin a chapter in Adelaide RSN.

There will be a summer conference in early 1993, hopefully leading to forming
an active AUUG chapter in Adelaide and regular meetings (quarterly in the 
first instance).

The person to speak to regarding either the summer conference, or details
about impending AUUG chapter activities, is Michael Wagner of System Services
Pty Ltd on 08-212-2800. Michael ran the 1992 Summer conference in Adelaide and
will be organising the '93 summer conference as well as organising and 
motivating people to form an Adelaide chapter.

I'm sure that Michael would be most happy to hear from you, or anyone in 
Adelaide who support the idea of AUUG activities there, even more so if 
you are prepared to help.

Glenn Huxtable
AUUG committee
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From: pjw@lobo.canberra.edu.au (Peter Wishart)
Newsgroups: aus.auug
Subject: Re: Address to join AUUG (Adelaide)
Date: 12 Sep 92 10:16:52 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: EASAMS (Australia) - ADCNET Project, Canberra

In <18nn5uINNksb@huon.itd.adelaide.edu.au> dclunie@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (David Clunie) writes:


>Would someone be able to let me know to whom I should talk in
>order to join the AUUG and the Adelaide branch if it exists ?

The AUUG Secretariat can be contacted at:

AUUG 
P.O. Box 366 
Kensington NSW 2033

Phone: (02) 361 5994
FAX:   (02) 332 4066

They can supply you with membership applications etc.

AUUG does not formally have a chapter in Adelaide yet.  However the
members who ran the last Adelaide summer conference are planning to
start a chapter based around actitivies at the next Adelaide summer
conference.  Contact Michael Wagner on Phone: (08) 212 2800 FAX: (08)
231 0321 for details.

Peter Wishart
AUUG Secretary
Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: sfy@koel.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU (Shane Youl)
Subject: Sun Systems Manager BOF
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 08:08:28 GMT

        Sun Systems Managers BOF

        The Sun User Group-Melbourne, invites all Sun Systems Managers
        to attend a BOF session during the AUUG conference this year.
        There will be a SHORT address from the president of SUG-M, 
	Geoff Halprin, outlining the activities of SUG-M, followed by 
	general discussion of items of common interest.

	The date, time and venue will be announced at the conference.

        See you there
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Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: srn@cs.su.oz.au (Stephen Robert Norris)
Subject: UUCP
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:23:16 GMT
Keywords: does the AUUG provide UUCP site(s)?


	Does the AUUG provide dialup UUCP connections?  In Sydney?

	Does anyone?

	Stephen

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                       steven@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
From: dclunie@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (David Clunie)
Newsgroups: aus.auug
Subject: Address to join AUUG (Adelaide)
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:47:26 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Her Master's Voice
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.itd.adelaide.edu.au


Would someone be able to let me know to whom I should talk in
order to join the AUUG and the Adelaide branch if it exists ?

Thanks.
-- 
David Clunie (dclunie@itd.adelaide.edu.au)
Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: eaf@softway.sw.oz.au (Liz Fraumann)
Subject: KRE Name...
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 02:35:08 GMT

I know, I know... there is only one possibility...

KERNEL, Robert Elz....    :')))))))

Newsgroups: aus.net.directory
From: ins242k@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr W.C. Eksteen)
Subject: E-mail address of Homesglen College Chadstone?
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 07:22:16 GMT


	I certainly hope this is the right group to be requesting this
 infomation, ( please forgive if it isn't, could you please let me know where
it should be put ).

	I'm looking for the E-mail address to the vax machine at Homesglen 
College Chadstone Campus, ( or for that matter any of the other machines they 
have there).
	I would much appreciate any information which might help me get this 
address. If you have any, could you please e-mail me at one of the addresses 
below.
	Accept my thanks in anticipation.


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Newsgroups: aus.aviation
From: chris@coombs.anu.edu.au (Chris @ SSDA)
Subject: Re: Buried Spitfires: fact or fiction?
Keywords: spitfire urban legend
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Distribution: aus
Date:  8 Sep 92 06:21:07 GMT

gaynier@elec.uq.oz.au (Ron Gaynier) writes:

>In <1992Sep7.134433.5166@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au> rfeadf@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Andrew Finegan) writes:

>"|"vaughan@ewd.dsto.gov.au (Vaughan Clarkson) writes:

>"|">I remember hearing stories about a number of Spitfires being buried in Australia
>"|">after WWII.  The opinion of the guys at the gliding club on the weekend is that
>"|">it is probably an urban legend, that the location of burial was Oakey, Qld., and
>"|">that numerous attempts have been made to dig them up, with no success.

>"|">Anybody know more about the legend?

>"|"Don't know about Oakey, but there is a similar story about a big arms/gold
>"|"repository buried somewhere in the Mallee region of South-eastern Australia.

>I lived in Toowoomba for three years and my gliding club use to be located on
>the Oakey aerodrome. The old timers say it is all nonsense. There were some P-51s
>rusting away there for a few years after the war but there were all sold/cut up
>for scrap/etc. and none were buried. I got most of this from a fellow who grew up
>in the area and would ride his bike on the aerodrome passed the aeroplanes.

>Ron Gaynier



My father lived as a boy in Toowoomba during the war and he used to get a lot
of parts of old spits that were dumped somewere there.  Including the old
valve stems (he used to cut them open for the lithium and chuck it down the
toilet - great fun!!!)  I have inherited several old parts that have survived
his boyhood fun.  A couple of induction coils and some switches from the
control panels.

	I think if they had buried the planes he would have already dug them
up :-)

Cheers.

Chris.

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From: vaughan@ewd.dsto.gov.au (Vaughan Clarkson)
Newsgroups: aus.aviation
Subject: Buried Spitfires:  fact or fiction?
Keywords: spitfire urban legend
Date: 7 Sep 92 17:45:03 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Defence Science and Technology Organisation, Salisbury, South Australia

I remember hearing stories about a number of Spitfires being buried in Australia
after WWII.  The opinion of the guys at the gliding club on the weekend is that
it is probably an urban legend, that the location of burial was Oakey, Qld., and
that numerous attempts have been made to dig them up, with no success.

Anybody know more about the legend?

Cheers
- Vaughan

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Newsgroups: aus.aviation
From: Anneliese Kropf <akropf@mariner.amc.ed.au>
Subject: Ilyushin Help Needed
Organization: Australian Maritime College
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 06:25:06 GMT

> Path: adelphi!hoconnel
> Date: 13 Sep 92 23:28:57 GMT
> Message-ID: <hoconnel.716426937@adelphi>
> Newsgroups: aus.aviation
> Distribution: world
> Subject: Ilyushin Help Needed.
> 
> 
> Hello,
> 	I am an Australian seeking information about the Ilyushin Aircraft
> Design Bureau, in particular about the IL-96-300
> 	and the Tupolev Aircraft Design Bureau, in particular about the
> 	TU 204
> 
> 	I need fax numbers or E-mail numbers.
> 
> 	Any help greatly appreciated.
> 
> 
> 
	Please direct all answers to the address below (Do not reply directly
to this posting).

		hoconnel@adelphi.physics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.aviation
From: geoff@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (Geoff Russell)
Subject: Re: Buried Spitfires: fact or fiction?
Keywords: spitfire urban legend
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:41:32 GMT


>>I remember hearing stories about a number of Spitfires being buried in Australia
>>after WWII.  The opinion of the guys at the gliding club on the weekend is that
>>it is probably an urban legend, that the location of burial was Oakey, Qld., and
>>that numerous attempts have been made to dig them up, with no success.

>>Anybody know more about the legend?

>Don't know about Oakey, but there is a similar story about a big arms/gold
>repository buried somewhere in the Mallee region of South-eastern Australia.

I know of a fellow who has followed this buried Spitfire rumour for years. 
He has even gone to the extent of digging up a drive-in theatre with a 
backhoe in one attempt to locate the alleged site. No success, though. I 
think it is worth following up on rumours when you look at the example of 
Col Pay's Kittyhawk.

There is another mallee region story about a land owner who used to fly a 
single engine fighter and buzz commercial airliners. I have heard the story 
from several people ...but.... no one has ever had a camera handy.

Geoff Russell
University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury.
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