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From: mkd@mtung.lincroftnj.ncr.com (Mark Darby)
Subject: integrated hubs/bridges/routers
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:39:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR - Lincroft, NJ
Keywords: hub bridge router

I'd like to survey the readers of this news group with the following
question...

Does anyone out in netland use any products which integrate ethernet
hub and bridge and/or routing functions? If so, what brand do you use
and what connectivity features does it provide?  How satisfied
are you with the product?

I am not asking about rack or chassis-type products where you can
put together bridge cards and repeater cards in the same box and
have them work together....I am talking about dedicated boxes which
have the repeater and bridge/router functions standard.

If I get enough responses, I will summarize to the net.
Thanks in advance for any responses I get.

Please respond by email!
Mark Darby
mkd@mtung.att.com / mkd@mtung.lincroftnj.ncr.com


Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert)
Subject: Re: Wiring 10BaseT for dummies (me)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:19:41 GMT

In article <92325.151924KJH6@psuvm.psu.edu>, <KJH6@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> We're looking at having to LAN our building here (and others later) with
> 10BaseT.  I have a question for net.enet.experts about wiring
> a 10BaseT connection :
> 
>       I have seen that most 10BaseT connectors  are with RJ45 modular
>       plugs (4 pairs, right?), but I also know that 10BaseT only needs
>       2 pairs to run.  Are the other 2 pairs necessary?  (Note that
>       there is >>no<< chance of the wiring that we're installing having
>       to carry anything other than LAN traffic).
> 
>       In short, can 4-wire TP telephone station wire be used for
>       10BaseT?  I also have about a million RJ11 plugs.  Can any of these
>       be used in a 10BaseT setting?
> 

10BaseT only requires two pairs. I have seen a number of installations
which use "non-standrd" connectors, such as RJ-11. The only thing to
be careful of is to avoid accidently plugging a telephone into the
10BaseT port (or vice-versa). This is a key reason why RJ-45's were
specified, and why the pinning is a little weird (pairs to pin 1/2, 3/6).

10BaseT requires as a minimu, category 3 wiring, a.k.a. Inside Wire.
This would be commonly used for commercial telephones today, but this
is not "quad" (older, solid wire 4-wire telephone wire used for years
for analog phones, especially in residential installations), or ancient
25-pair semi-twisted cables.


-- 
Rich Seifert                    Networks and Communications Consulting
seifert@netcom.com              (408) 996-0922
                                (408) 996-2860 FAX
"... specialists in Local Area Networks and Data Communications systems"
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: 00FFBAD1DEAD?
From: conley@hawk.cs.ukans.edu (Dennis R. Conley)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:34:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Kansas Computer Science Dept
Summary: Weird ethernet destination address

We've observed packets sent from old AT&T boxes and at least a couple of
Suns to the IP broadcast address, with the ethernet destination address
set to 00FFBAD1DEAD. These appear to be some sort of response to IP
broadcast packets received at these machines.

Anybody have a clue?


-- 
|Dennis R. Conley, Computer Science Dept., University of Kansas (913)864-7372 |
|conley@hawk.cs.ukans.edu			     conley@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu|
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: donadio@orville.psu.edu (Beaker)
Subject: 10base5 to 10baseT converter
Keywords: 10baseT, 10base5, question, twisted pair
Organization: Penn State Center for Academic Computing
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 03:07:16 GMT

I have a question.  I have a Western Digital EtherCard PLUS For 
Twisted Pair Wiring (WDLAN-ETP (F001)).  I would like to connect
this card to a 10baseT centralized computer network (the plug in
my wall is for 10baseT).  I bought the card for $60 from someone
on misc.forsale.computers, and don't really want to buy a new card.
Can I buy a simple converter to accomplish this, and where can I
get one from?  Thanks.

P.S.  This card is somewhat old.  It's a full length 8-bit card
with a twisted pair adapter, but it isn't 10baseT.  It also has
a 15-pin thick-net connector.

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From: tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Re: Is 10Base-F Part of IEEE 802.3 Std ?
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:42:42 GMT
X-Phone: +44 703 593257

In <1992Nov12.205330.13438@netcom.com> seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert) writes:

>In article <1992Nov11.173116.91@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil>, roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:
>> 
>> 	Is 10Base-F, where the "F" stands for "fiber", actually part
>> 	of the IEEE 802.3 standard ?

>Not yet. It was ballotted recently, and will probably get TCCC (IEEE
>Technical Committee) approval sometime in the next few months.

Is there a draft spec available anywhere on-line ??

Cheers,
	Tim
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: jrd@titan.ucc.umass.edu (J.D.)
Subject: Re: 82596 or 82596 Public Domain drivers 
Organization: Univ. of Massachusetts - Research Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:57:04 GMT

	A couple of years ago, I received a copy of the Intel Communications 
Product Handbook. Besides the hardware data sheet for the i82586 LAN controller,
there were a number of application notes with included C and x86 assembler
code for driving the chip. You may want to have your friend contact an
Intel Corp. Literature Office or Applications Engineer to get a copy of these
application notes. Call up information for their number - I believe they
are based out of Santa Clara, CA.

........ Jim Doyle
From: rdempste@unpcs1.cs.unp.ac.za (Rob Dempster)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Disk Cache on PC workstation for Novell server drives????
Keywords: disk cache network
Date: 21 Nov 92 13:57:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: unpcs1.rdempste.8.722354276
Distribution: world
Organization: Dept. Computer Science, UNP
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc089.cc.unp.ac.za

I am currently in the process of considering migrating to Windows 3.1
I am running Windows 3.1 on a 25Mhz 80486SX with 8 MB of RAM and a 40 MB hard
disk. I have a 2 MB SMARTDRV disk cache running and this makes the software
that I run from the hard drive very snappy. Unfortunately I also have to pull
some applications of a Novell LAN server and this really slows things down.
I have tried some fixes such as putting my Borland C include files on the
local hard drive. I would have put the library files there as well but don't 
have the space. So at the moment it seems that I will have to get a larger 
drive or find a driver similar to SMARTDRV that works with Novell file 
server drives? I would be most interested to hear whether such a driver 
exists or alternatively any other advice that would be useful.
Please email the address given below. Thanks!!

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
rdempste@unpcs1.cs.unp.ac.za          department of computer science
dempster@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za         university of natal
                                      p o box 375
fax : +27 331 955599                  3200 pietermaritzburg
ph :  +27 331 955645/46/50            south africa
From: PENNY@brownvm.brown.edu (Penny Theodore)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Connecting LaserJet to 10BaseT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Date: 23 Nov 1992 21:48:13 GMT
Organization: Brown University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cis_staff-kntx44.cis.brown.edu

Does anyone know of a device that can connect an original LaserJet to a
10BaseT Ethernet Novell LAN? Thanks in advance.

Penny Theodore
Penny@brownvm.brown.edu
Opinions are my own :)
From: brunelli@post.its.mcw.edu (Perry Brunelli)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: LAN access over backbone
Date: 20 Nov 1992 10:29:44 -0600
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin  (Milwaukee, WI)
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: post.its.mcw.edu

Can anyone report on their experience in providing wide area access to 
local area networks on a thicknet 10MBPS backbone?  I'm concerned about 
the effect of added novell, pathworks, lantastic, NFS, and other LAN 
traffic on our campus backbone.  Does anyone have policy on this issue 
they would be willing to share?  

Please respond to:

brunelli@its.mcw.edu

If there is interest, I can summarize responses and post to this group.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: sgriffee@nynexst.com (Steve Griffee)
Subject: remote tcp/ip LAN access ideas
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:15:10 GMT

I'm looking for ideas for connecting remote PC and MAC workstations
to our TCP/IP LAN using regular dial-up phone lines.  I've seen all
the usual asynch access devices.  I'm looking at the relatively hi
bandwidth facilities such as ISDN.  For example, so far I have
found out about the IMAC ISDN bridge made by DigiBoard and the RLN
asynch bridge (using hi speed modems and regular phone lines) made
by DCA which uses the PPP protocol.  Has anyone else found any
interesting means of connecting remote offices or workstations to
the LAN?  Let's swap discoveries.  Can We Talk?  Please respond
directly to my email address below.  I will summarize all submitted
responses if requested.

Watch out.  Telecommuting may be just around the bend for your
company.  Don't let it catch you asleep at the wheel.

Thanks
Steve

The opinions above are my own and do not reflect those of my employer.
_________________________________________________________________
Steve Griffee  sgriffee@nynexst.com  NYNEX Science and Technology
Data & Information Services          500 Westchester Avenue
914-644-2531  fax: 914-644-2301      White Plains, NY 10604

This is your email.  This is your brain on email.  Any questions?
-- 
The opinions above are my own and do not reflect those of my employer.
_________________________________________________________________
Steve Griffee  sgriffee@nynexst.com  NYNEX Science and Technology
Data & Information Services          500 Westchester Avenue
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: tmark@wbst845e.xerox.com (Ted Markowitz)
Subject: Ethernets & large volumes of large images
Organization: Xerox Knowledge Based Systems Competency Ctr. - Rochester, New
	York
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:31:56 GMT

Does anyone have any information, statistical or anecdotal, on using
an Ethernet for pushing a LOT of image data around?  I'm thinking of a
document mgmt. scenario with scanned or faxed images being indexed,
stored (possibly compressed) on optical media, staged to magnetic
disks, and routed back and forth to PC or Sparc-based workstations for
handling.

Some idea of the traffic: 3000-4000 8 1/2" by 11" black&white images
scanned at about 300dpi per day routed to about 50 workstations. A
preliminary estimate says that the flow would be fairly even over the
course of the day.

Also, if you have any suggestions on compression schemes, I'd love to
hear them.  

Please post feedback to the net. Thanks.
--
--ted 
===============================================
 Ted Markowitz
 Xerox Knowledge Based Systems Competency Ctr.
 780 Salt Road (845-20C)
 Webster, NY 14580

 Phone: 716-422-5664 (Intelnet: 8*222-5664)
 Fax:   716-422-2479
===============================================
From: ada@zip.larc.nasa.gov (Anthony Arviola)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: REQ: MultiPort Eher. Bridge Info
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:03:56
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zip.larc.nasa.gov
X-Md4-Signature: 582badf38797e5f4b682c7524627062f

I'm looking for names or information on multiple port ethernet bridges.
Some of the features we're looking for are
4 or more ports
SNMP MIB II management
Spanning tree
etc.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Tony ada@zip.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: Mehrtens_T@msm.cdx.mot.com
Subject: Re: Re: packet drops on repeaters?
Organization: Motorola_Codex
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:02:42 GMT

In articles:
>    However, in the worst case a single collision can consume (in bit times):
>        64 preamble + 512 packet bits = 576
>
(yea, I changed the numbers... T)

  I do not design netwworks for this "worst case".   I would not suggest that
you do, either.   I have seen where the collisions are happening near 128 bit
times, and the network is unusable at medium (50%) utilization.   Everyone
would end up banging into each other, and the bridges' tables would get filled
up with many bogus ethernet addresses (i.e. DECnet address AA00040AAAAA or
AA0004055555 (AA and 55 are the equivelent of the JAM signal)).  I work on the
assumption that collisions are only supposed to happen while the 64-bit
preamble is being transmitted (always design the network using the round trip
delay figgures).  Anything after that causes collisions when valid information
is sent, causes many bogus addresses, which then propigate everywhere
throughout the bridged network.  A real pain when you have 30+ ethernet
segments connected by bridged WANs.

  I used to have a long network with two repeaters and three buildings.  Not
any longer.  Now there is a bridge-router in each building, and only one
repeater on each segment.  Yesterday, one network segment has an adverage
packet rate for 8 hours is 400 packets per second, 1513 peak packets per
second, 1.25% adverage collision rate, 8.4% peak collision rate, peak
utilization over 70%, mixture of LAT, DECnet, TCP/IP, et. al.  And the users
are reasonablly happy.  Can you do that with the aforementioned "worse case
scenario"?  Of course not.

  I wonder where the idea that a collision can happen this late in a packet
transmission.  Probablly some older IEEE book, perhaps.

Tom Mehrtens
<Mehrtens_T@msm.cdx.mot.com>  My opinion ONLY.
  I work for Motorola Codex, but the President and his compadres speak for the
company.
I just like expressing my opinion. (flames welcome)...
From: swartz@fraser.sfu.ca (Norman Swartz)
Subject: Re: need phone number for Western Digital
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:52:21 GMT

Phone # for Western Digital is: (714) 863-0102
Their address is:
Western Digital Corp.
2445 McCabe Way
Irvine, CA  92714

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert)
Subject: Re: Is 10Base-F Part of IEEE 802.3 Std ?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:00:40 GMT

In article <13627@ecs.soton.ac.uk>, tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown) writes:
> In <1992Nov12.205330.13438@netcom.com> seifert@netcom.com (Rich Seifert) writes:
> 
> >In article <1992Nov11.173116.91@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil>, roseberry@taney.uscghq.uscg.mil writes:
> >> 
> >> 	Is 10Base-F, where the "F" stands for "fiber", actually part
> >> 	of the IEEE 802.3 standard ?
> 
> >Not yet. It was ballotted recently, and will probably get TCCC (IEEE
> >Technical Committee) approval sometime in the next few months.
> 
> Is there a draft spec available anywhere on-line ??
> 

No. IEEE standards are not available anywhere on the Internet.


-- 
Rich Seifert                    Networks and Communications Consulting
seifert@netcom.com              (408) 996-0922
                                (408) 996-2860 FAX
"... specialists in Local Area Networks and Data Communications systems"
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: sshws@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Herb Schilling)
Subject: Libraries for XNS ?
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:03:23 GMT


We want to use XNS to send messages between a PC program and a VAX
program. Are there any libraries to help us do this ? Thanks.
-- 
Herb Schilling , NASA Lewis Research Center , 21000 Brookpark Road, MS 142-5
Cleveland, Ohio 44135 . (216) 433-8955       sshws@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: pcolsen@super.org (Peter C Olsen)
Subject: What's a "10BaseT"
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:34:48 GMT


Can someone point me to a good reference on just what "10BaseT" means?
I have not been able to find it in either Tenanbaum or Stallings.  Are
the "NBaseY" terms generally accepted or are they ethernet specific?

Peter

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   mathematics and the physical sciences to improve the quality of life"
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.novell,comp.dcom.lans
From: barr@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BARR DOUG)
Subject: Need interface between ODI and Clarkson 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:51:19 GMT

We have an ethernet board that comes with an ODI driver. In order to
evaluate it, we need to make it work with the Clarkson packet drivers.
Does anyone know how to make an ODI driver work with the Clarkson?
MY understanding is there is a program written that will allow the
Clarkson packet drivers to communicate with the ODI driver. Where do
I get it?

Doug Barr
Software Programmer
University of Colorado

The information contained in this message is mine alone and does not
reflect any views of the University of Colorado.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: huntting@advtech.uswest.com (Brad Huntting)
Subject: Re: remote tcp/ip LAN access ideas 
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:29:37 GMT

In article <722011367snx@crynwr.com> nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.191510.474@nynexst.com> sgriffee@nynexst.com writes:

>   Watch out.  Telecommuting may be just around the bend for your
>   company.  Don't let it catch you asleep at the wheel.

>Holy shit, Steve, is NYNEX just figuring this out?!?!???

>Sorry for the gratuitious flamage, but maybe that's what the baby
>bells need?

Yup.  Until just a few months ago my supervisor (at U S WEST) was
unable to fathom telecomuting.  He used a Mac, and might have been able
to login to a unix machine if he had a system administrator on the
phone with him.  When I brought up the subject of working at home with
him, I got a vacant stare as if I had just asked him "I'm going to die
tomarrow and was wondering if I could keep working from beyond the
grave".

I'm fortunate now to have a new supervisor who understands that I dont
have to be in the building to work.  (Of course she lives several miles
up Boulder canyon and is probably snowed in herself today).

There is hope though...  At least there is a concensis (now that ATT is
out of the picture) that UUCP is not the ultimate answer to the worlds
networking needs.  :-)


brad
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: garyf@wang.com (Gary Field)
Subject: WANTED: Manual or info on CMC DRN1700 Ethernet Monitor
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:25:18 GMT

The Subject just about says it. I just picked up a Communication Machine
Corporation (CMC) LanScan DRN1700 Ethernet Monitor. It was built around
1985. It seems to be working, but I haven't been able to guess about
the command syntax. I connected a PC running a VT100 terminal emulator to
the VDU port and I get strings of = K00:00:01=+E at one second intervals. It
seems to be counting time.  I connected it to our Ethernet with an AUI to
BNC transceiver and it complains if I disconnect the transceiver from the net,
so it seems functional. I any of you either have a manual I would be willing
to pay for a copy of it. Even if you don't have a manual, but can remember
some of the commands, I would appreciate hearing from you. I realize this
unit is pretty obsolete, but I just want to use it for experimentation in
my cellar.
Thanks!
Gary


-- 

/*-------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Gary A. Field - WA1GRC, Wang Labs M/S 019-72B, 1 Industrial Ave      
   Lowell, MA 01851-5161,  (508) 967-2514, email: garyf@wiis.wang.com
-----------  Anything not worth doing, is not worth doing well. -----------*/
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: tim@boxhill.com (Timothy Jones)
Subject: need phone number for Western Digital
Organization: Box Hill Systems Corporation, New York, NY
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:20:32 GMT

I need the phone number for Western Digital.  I have an 8003E ISA ethernet
card that I need jumper settings for.

Please email.

Thanks,
Tim
--
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Box Hill Systems Corporation                                voice: 212-989-4455
161 Avenue of the Americas, New York, NY, 10013               fax: 212-989-6817
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: pcolsen@super.org (Peter C Olsen)
Subject: What's an "HP Ethertwist"?
Organization: Supercomputing Research Center
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:36:55 GMT


Can someone tell me what "HP Ethertwist" is?  

Thanks

Peter

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: ngps@stargate.np.ac.sg (Ng Pheng Siong)
Subject: Computing checksums for IEEE 802.3 frames
Organization: Ngee Ann Polytechnic, Singapore
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 21:58:10 GMT

Hi.

I'm looking for info regarding the computation of IEEE 802.3 frame checksums.
Pointers, please.

Thanks very much.

- PhengSiong

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.lans.fddi
From: chesney@obiwan.fsl.noaa.gov (Scott Chesney)
Subject: Query: network monitoring packages
Organization: Forecast Systems Labs, NOAA, Boulder, CO USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:07:47 GMT


	I am trying to evaluate and reccomend a network monitoring package
for our ever expanding LAN. We currently have ~100-150 nodes on ethernet
using DECnet and tcp/ip. We will be using fiber in the future. The questions
I'm trying to answer follow. Reply by email, if there is enough interest, I'll
summarize to the net.

	What are you using for network monitoring? What features do you
find most useful? Most annoying? What additional features would you like
to see? DO you think you will be using this software a year from now? In
five years? What have your experiences been with this software, positive or
negative? If you had to do it again, what would you change? 

	On what platform is your package presently running?  On what
other platforms can it be used? Is your shop a multivendor or single
vendor workplace?  Does the package you're using have problems montoring
any particular vendors' hardware?  Whose?  Do you know why?  If you could
choose another platform on which to run your monitoring package whose 
would you choose and why?

Thanks in advance.
	Scott				chesney@fsl.noaa.gov
	Systems Engineer		Forecast Syustems Labs
	(303) 497-6342			Boulder, CO
From: MCLHAGEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Sending mail from Ethernet PC
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:16:27 GMT
Organization: University of Kentucky

I have an Ethernet card in my PC. I would like to be able to send internet
E-mail from the PC without logging into the mainframe, etc. I also need to be
able to take the To:, From, subject, text out of a text file. I want to
automate a process. This computer can be on all the time & function as a server
If I could reverse the process and receive mail as well, that would be real
nice! Please respond to MCLHAGEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU.
 
                          Thanks!
 
                         Jon Hagee
                         Univ. of KY
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