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From: ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re:  Drum Corps Alias?
Date: 6 Nov 1992 16:05:25 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <17187180@um.cc.umich.edu> R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:
> 
>I started a rumor that Gordon Henderson (UCLA's Marching Band Director) might take 
>over.  This was only flame bait designed to cause trouble for El Gordo, as he had 
>already been booted off SCV's staff.  He is now with Cavies, where he is doing 
>wonderful things for their horn line.  Any other SCV alums or members heard anything? 
>Anyone who is monitoring the drum corps discussions on Prodigy read anything?
> 
>Vince

I have heard two things regarding SCV for next year.  First, who ever is going
to be the corps director wants to get rid of their cymbal line (a real slap
in the face of the drum line since SCV's cymbal and bass lines are know for
being consistalntly the best).  Second, the latest scoop about their drum line
for next year is that they will be without their section leader and Nick
(individual snare champ).  Their snare line will only have 2 or 3 returning.
--David



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From: afo@apollo.HP.COM (Aaron Oppenheimer)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Snares on top, pipebands (was Re: Snare Technology)
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:36:58 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Nov13.014006.25727@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F) writes:
|> In article <BxLyuK.9Mn@apollo.hp.com> afo@apollo.HP.COM (Aaron Oppenheimer) writes:
|> >Anyone else ever play in a pipe-band? If you can stand the sound of
|> >bagpipes, it's a lot of fun - the style is very different from what
|> >corps here play. Everything is crushed, the rhythms are strange, the
|> >sticks are weighted differently, etc.
|> 
|> that they could RAM, and it was pretty cool. Are you in a pipe band
|> now, Aaron?

Nope, though there are (apparently) several in New England; maybe
eventually, when I have the time. It's fun. (No kilt jokes, please)

-A


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Aaron Oppenheimer                             Multimedia Technology Lab
                         "Please Be Fabulous"
Hewlett Packard Co.                                      Chelmsford, MA
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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Todd Ryan & Voting info.
From: cputnam@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 06:55:21 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City


I read on here a bit ago that Star wasn't asking Todd Ryan back next year.  I
can't believe they wouldn't ask him back, so I wanted to clear it up.  Whoever
posted this, could you tell me who you heard it from?  Or if they are a good
source?  And, if anyone can confirm or deny this travesty.  As I'm trying out
for Star in 3 weeks, I'm VERY curious who would be taking over if this is true.

And, can someone send me a copy of what I need to send to whoever to vote for
the new alt.drumcorps name and alt.colorguard name?  Just email it to:
cputnam@vax1.umkc.edu

Or, you might post it here, just so everyone that hasn't kept up to date can
get it.  Kinda like a voter registration drive.

Well, thanks for any and all info.!!!

Chris
Star in '93?????
Baritone

PS-Don't forget about alt.colorguard!!  It's that time of year (almost)!


Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rlmiller@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Randall L. Miller)
Subject: Test posting
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
 Hi, this is just a test, so please excuse any and all mistakes.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 18:38:27 EST

I have been reading this group for a few weeks now and I was just wondering
if someone could subdue my curiosity. I would like to know the list of
DCI Champions...hope it's not too much trouble.

 Thanks.

Randy Miller
BAC 91-95???
"Contras, 'cause everything else is just a soprano."

Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: mtymp10@staff.tc.umn.edu (Shannon Robert Madsen)
Subject: Madison Tryouts
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:36:20 GMT

Is there a number I can call or an address to write to to get information
about tryouts for Madison?

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: flip@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Flip Phillips)
Subject: Re: current scuttlebutt
Organization: OSU Advanced Computing Center for the Arts and Design
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:43:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.223935.28747@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jwise@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Wise) writes:

>     I gotta run, it's late, please any other nuts out there respond, Ohio 
>State doesn't exactly contain the hotbed of drum corps activity.

No doubt... This is a great group o' folks, you'll get more than enough to make
up for the lack o' action here. Wanna go march a senior corps? Heh heh heh...

-- 
Flip Phillips					flip@cgrg.ohio-state.edu
The Ohio State University
From: phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: All Stars?
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:23:15 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I have heard (thru a source that is almost reliable) that there is not going to
be an All-Star trip this year.  The reason was that the Orange Bowl only lets
groups perform there once every five years.  Discussion?

Brooke
Colts '89-'93
Mellophone
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: jgriffin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jennifer B Griffin)
Subject: BOA Finals
Summary: Placements?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 16:54:53 GMT



     Does anyone know how the placements were at Bands of America in
Indianopolis?  I'm a Westerville South alum and I'm curious about
how they did.


                    Thanks!
                              Jen
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:20:15 EST
From: Elizabeth R. Bain <ERB107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Trojan Band busted

Interesting news.  I had heard that recently a fraternity songbook was
"confiscated" or whatever at some university, but if I remember correctly
the major charge on that particular book was that it advocated gang rape.
(It was a Phi Psi book, for anyone out there who might have heard of it.)
Somehow, that seems a bit more objectionable than advocating drinking to
excess, which is going to happen on almost any college campus anyway.

PC.  Hmph.

Liz.
erb1072psuvm.psu.edu
The Pennsylvania State University  (University Park, PA)
From: fath1@husc.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re:  Use of Off-the-Line mailing list
Date: 12 Nov 1992 16:01:40 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi Vince,

I have the OTL mailing list as well as a list of people who have posted to
alt.drumcorps and alt.colorguard.  I will be sending mail to all of them soon
about the vote and about the gateway.

The gateway is on hold until the vote goes through (at least from my end).
After that, I see several possibilities.  For starters, I was going to 
collect articles from r.a.m.drumcorps, r.a.m.misc, a.drumcorps, a.colorguard
and mail them to old OTL folks.  THen they can post responses to the Net
using one of the gateways like dec or utexas.  Hopefully, someone with some
experience with usenet will be willing and able to set something up that is
automatic, so that the gateway between mail and News can go without a lot
of upkeep.

If there are any volunteers --- please let me know.

But for now, the emphasis will be the vote.

Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: bjh42543@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian J. Haag)
Subject: Re: Todd Ryan & Voting info.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:18:46 GMT

dsn41188@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (david nirschl) writes:

>ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall) writes:

>>Who is Todd Tyan.  If he is the man in charge of creativity, then I believe I 
>>can tell you why he's gone.  Thom Hannum is going full time at Star, and along
>>with him perc. caption head, I've heard that he is also in charge of the
>>creative aspects of the show (whatever that is).

>You're right : Todd Ryan, from what I know, is moving back to Madison, where
>he worked a few years back ( at least in '88, I think) or possibly to 
>Phantom. Todd seemed to have a hard time adjusting to the head-drill writer
>position from the secondary position he held behind George Zingali. As a 
>member I think Todd is a great guy, but watching the video I'm not 
>impressed with how the drill fits the music. 

>As far as other positions, Thom Hannum is perc. caption head, Brent
>Montgomery is snare tech. (previously quad tech.), John Corley (incredible
>Cadet bass drummer) is bass tech, and Chris Lee won't be back to do the
>pit, but someone from cadets apparently is. Bob Dubinski, old perc. caption
>head, will be in more of a "correspondent" position, spending less time 
>with the corps, working on full corps ensemble stuff rather than working 
>closely with the drumline. 

>-Dave Nirschl

Hi Dave.

Todd Ryan is going to Regiment, to replace (what's his first name?) Brazale.
Two members of the guard staff are writing Scout's drill this year.

Brian J. Haag
bjh42543@uiuc.edu
bhaag@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Marching to HOLSINGER?
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:39:50 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Nov8.070003.25179@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st891425@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Andrew Weiskopf) writes:
> How does one march to David Holsinger's work? With all those time changes,
> someone had better keep an ambulance on duty!
> -Andrew Weiskopf       

*Chuckle* About the same way one marches to John Tesh's A Thousand Summers!
(With a good, stout knee brace and water breaks pretty often!)
We didn't have high speed drill when we did In the Springtime, When the Kings 
Go Off To War, but we certainly did during Tesh's 7/4 section! 
     Usually when writing a drill that normal people can march, one takes two 
of the odd meters together as a marching phrase. Jeff decided to torture us, 
however, and wrote four fast moving 7 count phrases with a 10 count phrase 
right after that! 
Anyone who has heard this tune can attest to the speed! I know many
accomplished marchers in Colts who have fallen for the first time ever in
trying to perform this drill. 
    In all, the fast speed, irregular count drill was, for me, one of the most
exciting and interesting parts of our show! (Even though I ended up
contemplating the pretty sky a couple times during rehearsal!)

Brooke Phelps
Colts '89-'93
Mellophone
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: cogwynn@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Possible Shows for 93
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:13:32 GMT

Well some preliminary reports that I have heard say that Cavaliers are
considering "The Planets" for next year and Santa Clara is considering
selections from the movie "Far and Away".
Unconfirmed, but interesting to say the least.
Anyone else heard anything?

Chris O'Gwynn

PS - Anyone else going to the Star camp in November like to meet up?
     Just let me know.
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: mikeq@sequent.com (Mike Quillen)
Subject: Re: DCI championship rings
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 16:16:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.032242.8752@vela.acs.oakland.edu> bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.192339.18648@sequent.com> mikeq@sequent.com (Mike Quillen) writes:
>
>>>Scott Johnson (marched in the Blue Devils drumline '76,'77,'78, and taught
>>>the line from '79 to '86, and now teaches Vanguard) has seven, I think.
>
>>Scott did not teach BD during all of these years. I don't think he was 
>>there when the Floats were there. I know for sure he wasn't there in '82.
>
>Scott taught BD off and on after he aged out until the Floats arrived in
>'82. He then became tenor instructor and all around great asset to the
>line until he left to teach Vanguard. You can trust me on this one. :-)

You're right, and I stand corrected. '82 was my last year and that was a
long time ago. Besides, I was a horn player. :-)

BTW, what year did they start giving out the championship rings? Was it '79?

>
>--Brad.
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>Oakland University                         -me    
>Rochester, Michigan
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>
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--mikeq
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re:  Snare Technology
Date: 8 Nov 1992 17:52:05 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway

In article <1de8hmINNiik@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM>, greg@antizen.Ebay.
Sun.COM (Gregory Dilley) wrote (Re: Snare Technology):
 
|>There was a Canadian Corps that marched with triple congas back 
|>in either '76, '77 or '78. Anyone remember who they were?
 
That was the Seneca Optimists (Which the Anaheim Kingsmen called
"Bananaheim" :-).  They used them in '77 for their "West Side
Story" show.  They may also have used them in '76 and '78--
I don't remember.
 
Vince
 
P. S.  Greg, you mentioned that you were in the 1977 Knight Raiders.
(The year they wore the neon green uniforms).  Do you remember Larry
Narachi, who marched snare in 1977?  I marched with in in 1978 Anaheim
Kingsmen.  He also had a sister, Roxanne, who then marched in '79 Freelancers
(the year they were called the "Coke Can Cadets"--one of Shirley Whitcomb's
worse ideas!), and '81-'82 Velvet Knights.  Along with Sandy Turner, she
was the driving force behind VK's WGI finalist guards of the early '80s.
From: niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: alt.drumcorps Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 09:56:52 EDT
Organization: Heavy Objects R Us
Reply-To: chinchilla!niel@cars.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <1992Nov4.232311.22246@beaver.cs.washington.edu> (alt.drumcorps), dci@cs.washington.edu (Donald Chinn) writes:
> ...
>2.0 Corps addresses and drum corps publications    compiled by Michael Fath
>
>Spirit of Atlanta, 620 Peachtree St, NE #904, Atlanta, GA 30308
>404-875-8715
>
I think this info is for someone who sold tickets for the Atlanta
shows.

The address I have is 2860 Campbellton Rd SW (sorry, no zip code, it's
from the phone book)
phone #344-5616

Great FAQ!

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rdorocke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (rob lawrence dorocke)
Subject: Re: Possible Shows for 93
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:29:35 GMT

In article <1dtvj0INNa23@early-bird.think.com> fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
>In article <BxJ0zs.Jq6@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bjh42543@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian J. Haag) writes:
>>
>>Cavies are doing Heroes Lost and Fallen (middle) and Ron Nelson's Morning
>>Alleluia (closer).  As of yet they have no opener.
>>
>>Brian J. Haag
>>bjh42543@uiuc.edu
>>bhaag@nyx.cs.du.edu
>>
>THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION!!
>How did you get it?  Are you marching with them?  I Jeff Fiedler to ask him and
>left a message but he didn't call me back yet.
>
>So please keep us informed.  
>BTW, who wrote Heroes Lost and Fallen?  Are either of these pieces available
>on CD?  
>
Heroes Lost and Fallen was written by David R. gillingham and is not, to the
best of my knowledge, on CD.  However I should be getting a copy of it
when I played it in HS soon.

Rob Dorocke


>
>
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From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Possible Shows for 93
Date: 12 Nov 1992 16:09:04 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcrr.harvard.edu

In article <BxJ0zs.Jq6@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bjh42543@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Brian J. Haag) writes:
>
>Cavies are doing Heroes Lost and Fallen (middle) and Ron Nelson's Morning
>Alleluia (closer).  As of yet they have no opener.
>
>Brian J. Haag
>bjh42543@uiuc.edu
>bhaag@nyx.cs.du.edu
>
THANKS FOR THE INFORMATION!!
How did you get it?  Are you marching with them?  I Jeff Fiedler to ask him and
left a message but he didn't call me back yet.

So please keep us informed.  
BTW, who wrote Heroes Lost and Fallen?  Are either of these pieces available
on CD?  



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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: sradeker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Radeker)
Subject: Re: BOA Finals
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 04:52:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.165453.20505@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jgriffin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jennifer B Griffin) writes:
>     Does anyone know how the placements were at Bands of America in
>Indianopolis?  I'm a Westerville South alum and I'm curious about
>how they did.


When did you march Jennifer?  Also, second the motion.  I would really like
to see the results too.

Scott
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From: dsn41188@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (david nirschl)
Subject: Re: Todd Ryan & Voting info.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:16:58 GMT

ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall) writes:

>Who is Todd Tyan.  If he is the man in charge of creativity, then I believe I 
>can tell you why he's gone.  Thom Hannum is going full time at Star, and along
>with him perc. caption head, I've heard that he is also in charge of the
>creative aspects of the show (whatever that is).

You're right : Todd Ryan, from what I know, is moving back to Madison, where
he worked a few years back ( at least in '88, I think) or possibly to 
Phantom. Todd seemed to have a hard time adjusting to the head-drill writer
position from the secondary position he held behind George Zingali. As a 
member I think Todd is a great guy, but watching the video I'm not 
impressed with how the drill fits the music. 

As far as other positions, Thom Hannum is perc. caption head, Brent
Montgomery is snare tech. (previously quad tech.), John Corley (incredible
Cadet bass drummer) is bass tech, and Chris Lee won't be back to do the
pit, but someone from cadets apparently is. Bob Dubinski, old perc. caption
head, will be in more of a "correspondent" position, spending less time 
with the corps, working on full corps ensemble stuff rather than working 
closely with the drumline. 

-Dave Nirschl


Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rdorocke@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (rob lawrence dorocke)
Subject: Jay Kennedy with SCV in '93??
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:32:45 GMT

I just heard that SCV has Jay Kennedy on staff for 1993.  Can anyone verify
the rumor?  I would like to know if anyone has heard the same thing so we
can get a better idea if it is true or not..

Always happy to pass on news

Rob
From: greg@antizen (...the printer guy <greg@antizen>)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re:  Drum Corps Alias?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:42:47 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

>Which aspect of medicine?  Patient care or medical imaging?

I'm currently a Wilderness EMT and have been working as a volunteer
for a couple different organizations for the last 4-5 years.

My whole life right now is to get some GE classes out of the way
and apply to the Stanford Primary Care program to become a 
Physician's Assistant.

Greg
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Trojan Band busted
Date: 5 Nov 1992 16:24:50 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Here is something an anonymous fellow Bruin sent me:
 
 ________________________________________________________________
 
 Subject: Trojan Band busted
 
 I have it on good authority:  the u$c band is in serious trouble for 
 publishing a songbook containing vulgar and politically incorrect songs,
 just like the one's we used to sing ("You can tell, by the smell...").
 
 You may have heard that a few months ago, someone sent a copy of a UCLA
 fraternity songbook to the administration, and the assorted deans came
 down very hard on them.  The Daily Bruin talked about how people were
 very upset about these songs that "glorified mutiliation" and "advocated
 drinking to excess".  In this sensitive era of political correctness, 
 these were very serious charges. 
 
 Well, apparently someone sent a copy of the trojan band songbook to the
 Daily Trojan, and the shit has hit the fan.  The administration is so
 upset that they are considering not letting the band travel to the Bay
 Area for the Stanford game this weekend.  This would, of course, be a 
 welcome relief to the long suffering Stanford fans.  In addition, those
 of us who choose to watch the game on TV would not not be subjected to
 the incessant, repetitive droning of the only-know-three-chords knee-jerk
 marching warriors of the antichrist.
 
 Good riddance, if true...
From: dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Test [please ignore]
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:36:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

This is a test.