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From: "execnet support" <execnet.support@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: new york's best!
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:07:38 EST
Reply-To: "execnet support" <execnet.support@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

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From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads,biz.comp.services
Subject: Re: Public Access USENET/EMAIL/UNIX
Date: 28 Sep 1992 14:49:35 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

gabe, if you have questions about news feeds in michigan, mi.misc and
mi.news is the place to ask them.  there's a batch of people there who
have been slinging news around the state for half a dozen years now and
who can plug you in in terms of feeds from the universities, from public
access usenet sites, from for-pay services like Msen, etc etc.  one way or
another there's almost surely a way to get a newsfeed -- or even a direct
internet connection -- without undue hassle.

--Ed
From: smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Scott Mash)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: Role Playing Game BBS
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:23:41 GMT
Organization: Smasher Land BBS (614)593-8359



     /^\                                                    /^\
    |   |                SMASHER LAND BBS                  |   |
    | | |            An RPG Players Paradise               | | |
    | | |                 (614) 593-8359                   | | |
    | | |           2400 Baud, 24 Hours A Day              | | |
    | | |                                                  | | |
    | | |           Files & Messagebases For:              | | | 
    | | |         AD&D, GURPS, Hero, Champions,            | | |
    | | |         Ars Magica, Amber, Talislanta,           | | |
    | | |         Runequest, Rolemaster, Vampire,          | | |
    | | |         Shadowrun, Marvel & DC Heroes,           | | |
    |   |                And Many More                     |   |
 \  |   |  /                                            \  |   |  /
  =========                                              =========
      #                                                      #
      #                                                      #
     ###                                                    ###


Smasher Land BBS also has a UUCP connection to Internet and has email
and newsgroup access available to all users upon request.  The following
newsgroups are available. (These will be changing soon, hopefully.) 

rec.games.frp.*, alt.pub.dragons-inn (coming soon), alt.bbs.ads,
alt.alien.visitors, alt.brother-jed, rec.arts.comics.


Also the following mailing lists have been diverted into groups for
everyone to read and post to.

Ars Magica, Amber, Forgotten Realms, Vampire, Talislanta, Wizards of
the Coast, Ravenloft, Miniature and more to come. 

-- 
| smash@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu         |  Scott A. Mash               |
| smash@bigbird.cs.ohiou.edu         |  Smasher Land RPG BBS        |
| system@smashland.nelsonville.oh.us |  (614) 593-8359, 2400 Baud   |
|                                    |  RPG Textfiles And Utilities |
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From: dragon@angus.mi.org (John Lussmyer)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads,biz.comp.services
Subject: Re: Public Access USENET/EMAIL/UNIX
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:12:37 GMT
Reply-To: dragon@angus.mi.org
Organization: North Star BBS

steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison) writes:
> 
> Ok since you obviously are helpless...... start with the maps I'll even help 
> then call some schools nearby; they will either be willing to to or they will
> give you the name of some that will.
> 
> Anyway, the maps I hope you can make a phone call..........
> 
> 
> Notice that one of these guys even has two systems. I am sure that one of the
> be willing to help out and if not then one will certainly tell you where they
> get there feed from and you can call that person.
> 
> Give me a break, don't expect the computer to do all of your thinking for you
> 
Well, I am NOT really helpless.  The system i use IS free, but I do give
the sysop some cash to cover phone line charges.  The real reason that I
didn't know about those other systems were a) I don't use UNIX, and I
access usenet via BBS.  I know NOTHING about how usenet is set up, where
to find maps of it.  I could have fairly easily found maps, once I had
decided to spend time(==money) looking for such.  Many people get on 
usenet only via paying $$$ because they a) don't know of a free site and 
can't find one until they are on usenet. (catch 22) b) don't feel good 
about using somebodies phone/computer time without paying for it.

--
John Lussmyer (dragon@angus.mi.org)
North Star BBS, Royal Oak, MI --------------------------------------------+-
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From: lchang@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads,alt.bbs,alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs.lists.d
Subject: THE BBS List v1 #7- October
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:36:42 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

THE BBS List v1, #7- October
____________________________

	The October THE BBS List is now available in alt.bbs.lists.
If you do not have alt.bbs.lists available where you are, but would
like a copy anyway, send mail to me at lchang@uoft02.utoledo.edu
and I will make sure you get one ASAP. Also, if you would like a
formatted text version (complete with tabs), please say so and I
can send you the uuencoded version.
	THE BBS List is a compilation of BBS's around the world.
In order to have a BBS added to THE BBS List, send me the following
info:

BBS Name:
Net Addresses:
Max. Baud:
SysOp:
BBS Software:
Main Support Offered:
Secondary Support:
Other Info:

Thanks for all your help...
Sonya Chang
lchang@uoft02.utoledo.edu

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From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Public Access USENET/EMAIL/UNIX
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:59:13 GMT

John Lussmyer <dragon@angus.mi.org> writes:

>Well, believe it or not, there are people in this world who AREN"T
>students!  And who don't work at universities or companies that have
>usenet feeds!  Amazing isn't it.  Since you obviously know of a place
>where I can get free usenet access, why don't you tell me where it is?
>Note: Long distance phone charges aren't allowed either.  I need a
>local to Oak Park Michigan newsfeed.


Well he is right in the sense that there *are* some places taht provide
feeds for free.  These are often companies that provide the service as
a "public service" and have enoough profit margin to enable them to spend
money this way.

There are also some smaller sites run from people's homes where they provide
free feeds.  I can only surmise that these sites are run by people who are
pretty well-to-do so they can afford to spend the hundreds of $$ per month
that it costs to run such a site, pay for thousands of dollards of hardware,
etc, etc.
-- 
bill@unixland.natick.ma.us                      ESIX Mailing List Moderator
Public Access UNIX/USENET/E-MAIL!  UUCP Accounts Available!  (508) 655-3848
5 lines  -  Located in Natick, MA   USA    Supporting V.32/PEP/V.42bis, etc.
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From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin)
Subject: Re: Public Access USENET/EMAIL/UNIX
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 02:21:45 GMT

In article <7w2uRB1w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
>vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver) writes:
>
>> Back in the golden days, sites would offer others free feeds on the
>> rationale that only by doing for others (giving them free feeds) would
>> others do the same for you (give you a free feed).
>
>Works for me, today.  This must be a "golden" day.
>
	Ditto...

>Now, we've reached the end, and I can attempt to say something useful.  And,
>it is amazingly short and to the point:  despite the cynics of the net, there
>are more than a few of us out here in netland who still subscribe to the ideal
>of free feeds, share and share alike.  Admittedly, it is extremely easy to
>be altruistic when all my traffic is local.  Persons or organizations that
>find it necessary to make long distance phone calls for their connectivity
>will find such volunteerism lacking.
>
	Why?  For the most part, alot of organizations up here 
seem to communicate with their counterparts in the states (here as in
Canada), and I find alot of them seem to carry local sites as well,
as long as the volume doesn't get to be outrageous.  (ie 5% of total
traffic, or something like that)  The connection is already there, and
it would probably cost more to send 1 message at a time over the link,
then sending 20 messages as long as the link is up.

>If I can offer mediocre UUCP services, and do so for free, there are more
>than a few who will take me up on the offer, merely because they are cost-
>conscious, and possibly also because they individually have neither the need
>nor the time to read ALL of the Usenet.
>
	...or the CARE that their news is a day or two late.  Most
stuff is not time-sensitive.

Marc
-- 
Marc G. Fournier      | R-node Public Access Unix running UnixBBS 1.03
Etobicoke, Ontario    | 416-249-5366   24hrs 7 days/week   network email
voice: 249-4230       | shell accounts available  1800+ newsgroups  FREE
marc@r-node.pci.on.ca | Telebit WorldBlazer/SupraModem2400/Cardinal 2400 
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From: steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads,biz.comp.services
Subject: Re: Public Access USENET/EMAIL/UNIX
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:29:00 GMT
Organization: Systems'n'Software

In article <9w1wRB2w165w@pfbbs.uucp> gabe@angus.mi.org writes:
>steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison) writes:
>
>   
>It would seem that you are running a site under conditions similar to 
>mine.  I do not charge for access, but accept contributions from users 
>that want to help share the financial burden.  I do, however, pay for
>a feed.  I pay for it because it has enabled my uucp site to send 
>mail to someone in Hudson, Mass. and read their reply ten minutes later.
>I have access to 47Mb of news feeds a day (much more than my humble 
>system can handle).  I'm one hop off Internet.  I can't find a free
>feed that offers all that.
>
In our area I can name at least 5 that are a local call and free, we are 
one of them.

I still say that if someone wants to find a feed free that have better than
a 70% chance of doing so. I have to say 70% because if I don't I'll get flamed
by some guy in Juneau Alaska, in most regions I would say it is more like 90%.

Bottom line, as long as people are silly enough to pay there will be a market for
it. THAT, is supply and demand.


-- 
J. Steven Harrison, PhD.	steve@jack.sns.com
45034 Imnaha Court		Voice:	(510)623-8651
Fremont, CA   94539-6669	Data:	(510)623-8652
Systems'n'Software            	FAX:	(510)623-8656
From: tom.betz@execnet.com (tom betz)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: seeking buddhist bbss
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:26:05 GMT
Reply-To: "tom betz" <tom.betz@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

A friend of mine is seeking BBS Systems with considerable discussion of 
Buddhist issues and doctrine.  There used to be one called Indranet, for 
which I have lost the number.

I would appreciate receiving information on any such systems, particularly 
if they are in the Philadelphia area.

The same goes for information on Philly-area public-access Usenet sites.

Thanks.


---
 ~ WinQwk 2.0 a#299 ~ When an old man dies, a library burns down.
--
Executive Network Information System  (914) 667-4567
International ILink Host
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: Re: Public Access USENET/EMAIL/UNIX
Date: 2 Oct 92 04:23:20 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes:

> Some people don't have sites near them that can feed them a full feed. 
> For a lot of people, the call is a long distance call which costs anywhere
> from 10 cents to 30 cents a minute. 

Sad, but true.

> Furthermore, not everyone has high speed modems. You may be stuck with 
> a 2400bps modem. Just try to get 40meg/day with a 2400bps modem:
>  
>   40,000,000 bytes / 220 cps / 60 sec/min / 60 min/hr = 50 hours
>   (rounded off).
>  
> So, it takes 50 hours to transfer a days worth of news. This means that
> you'd be behind 1 day, 2 hours in 1 day, or 8 days, 2 hours in 7 days.
> Sorry, that just doesn't work. I've also been generous with the throughput:
> Usually, on a 2400bps connection, I see throughputs of 189cps on average. 
> 
> Palmer

... which only illustrates that it is technically impossible to get or
provide a "full" feed with a 2400 bps modem.

-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: postmaster
Subject: Affordable UUCP/USENET for BBS operartors
Reply-To: postmaster@infoserv.com
Organization: InfoServ Connections
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 07:00:07 GMT



BBS operators,

If you want to carry USENET for your readers, consider InfoServ Connections
for your UUCP network link.

InfoServ Connections provides network services especially designed to
support the needs of end users with small systems* such as DOS, MAC, and
Unix/386. Our service features hassle free connections - we do all the
administrative drudge such as being your smart host for email address
resolution.

Our unique, menu-driven interface lets you change your USENET subscription
list as often as you wish, and our low rate ($10 - $15 per month) and none
restrictive license terms make us real viable alternative to Uunet and
PSI.

DIAL (408) 243-2102 2400/MNP/V.42, or 243-2104  V.32/PEP
(Modem support: 8 bit, 1 stop, No parity, 24hrs)

Type `begin' at the prompt and browse the features; then subscribe on-line!
No paper forms to fill out! 


*@*.*.*.*
|        /~~~~~~~~~\
INFOSERV/CONNECTIONS\     /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*@*.*.*.*
|______/             \___/ The Professional's Network

   Email: postmaster@infoserv.com
          uunet!infoserv!postmaster
   Voice: (408) 724-3446
                                   Copyright (C) 1991, All rights reserved.
 
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From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin)
Subject: Re: Public Access USENET/EMAIL/UNIX
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:51:26 GMT

In article <wscTRB1w165w@angus.mi.org> dragon@angus.mi.org writes:
>
>It sounds like you are saying that everyone who is currently PAYING for
>newsfeeds should immediately stop and find someone who supplies it for
>free.  Of course that would result in many/most sites dropping news
>altogether because they couldn't afford it.  The free sites would become
>completely overloaded and unusable.  From your statements I would guess
>that you would be happy to provide phone line and computer for a small
>newsfeed site, why it would only cost $1000-$2000 for a minimial system
>and another $100/month in phone charges.  Everybody should be glad to
>provide such a service.  (Slight tinge of sarcasm there for those who
>might not have noticed.)  If no-one payed for news, it would become
>useless because no-one would use it when the only access was through 
>overloaded systems.  Universities and suchlike would probably restrict
>access to students/faculty only, etc...
>
	IMHO, Usenet news is something that can very easily be
gotten for free.  Geez...if one site carried two other sites, and
those carried two other sites...that doesn't make for an 
overloaded system (unless you run on a 286, that is)  Currently,
I have 16+ systems talking to me, and 100+ users.  6 or so of
those systems are upstream, the rest are downstream.  The one
thing that I find, at least around here, is that nobody (or very
few) pay for news.  Alot of sites pay for email because they have
a priority on them, and because of that having to pay for email,
they allow other systems to use that 'email route', but news is 
not a priority and can be gotten from anywhere, if you just look.

	I don't know what Bill provides for his $100/yr (?), but
if that is unlimited dialin, that is cheap, considering the load
some of the sites may put on him...at least in comparison to
Uunet...and where does Bill get his stuff from?  Does he have to
pay for it?  Maybe I missed some of the facts, I don't know.  

Marc
-- 
Marc G. Fournier      | R-node Public Access Unix running UnixBBS 1.03
Etobicoke, Ontario    | 416-249-5366   24hrs 7 days/week   network email
voice: 249-4230       | shell accounts available  1800+ newsgroups  FREE
marc@r-node.pci.on.ca | Telebit WorldBlazer/SupraModem2400/Cardinal 2400 
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From: sysop@etacbbs.knox.tn.us (Sysop) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: E TENN ADULT CONNECTION
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:52:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: East Tennessee Adult Connection - (615)690-4716  9600 v.32/v.42/bis
Reply-To: sysop@etacbbs.knox.tn.us (Sysop) 

                    East Tennessee Adult Connection

        Our networks are in place, and the message bases are growing.
We now carry Throbnet, AfterDark, Usenet/Internet, and Relaynet.  We
specialize in ADULT GIF's, TEXT files, user written stories, online
games, doors and more.  This is an adults only system, accessible only
by membership.  Proof of age required.
        International callers can receive free access.  Log on for
details.  Canadian callers receive a 25% discount, and for email only
access, there is no charge, but the proof of age is still required.


                Give us a call...
                        You won't be sorry...
                Adults only...
                        (615) 690-4716  -  9600 v.32/v.42/bis

.. Charlie - SysOp ..
.. Valerie - CoSysOp ..
                                                                                                   
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From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads,biz.comp.services
Subject: Re: Public Access USENET/EMAIL/UNIX
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:17:45 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:

> karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
> >>
> >>Unbelievable
> 
> >Better tell UUNET! :-)
> 
> Yeah, and while he's at it he should ask UUNET to provide a feed for
> $100 per year and see how far he gets with them :-)

As competition with other carriers comes into play, that may indeed become
realistic in the not-so-distant future.

> 
> -- 
> bill@unixland.natick.ma.us                      ESIX Mailing List Moderator
> Public Access UNIX/USENET/E-MAIL!  UUCP Accounts Available!  (508) 655-3848
> 5 lines  -  Located in Natick, MA   USA    Supporting V.32/PEP/V.42bis, etc.


-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
From: postmaster
Subject: Affordable UUCP/USENET for BBS operartors
Reply-To: postmaster@infoserv.com
Organization: InfoServ Connections
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:00:06 GMT



BBS operators,

If you want to carry USENET for your readers, consider InfoServ Connections
for your UUCP network link.

InfoServ Connections provides network services especially designed to
support the needs of end users with small systems* such as DOS, MAC, and
Unix/386. Our service features hassle free connections - we do all the
administrative drudge such as being your smart host for email address
resolution.

Our unique, menu-driven interface lets you change your USENET subscription
list as often as you wish, and our low rate ($10 - $15 per month) and none
restrictive license terms make us real viable alternative to Uunet and
PSI.

DIAL (408) 243-2102 2400/MNP/V.42, or 243-2104  V.32/PEP
(Modem support: 8 bit, 1 stop, No parity, 24hrs)

Type `begin' at the prompt and browse the features; then subscribe on-line!
No paper forms to fill out! 


*@*.*.*.*
|        /~~~~~~~~~\
INFOSERV/CONNECTIONS\     /~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*@*.*.*.*
|______/             \___/ The Professional's Network

   Email: postmaster@infoserv.com
          uunet!infoserv!postmaster
   Voice: (408) 724-3446
                                   Copyright (C) 1991, All rights reserved.
From: sysop@etacbbs.knox.tn.us (Sysop) 
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: E TENN ADULT CONNECTION
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:59:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: East Tennessee Adult Connection - (615)690-4716  9600 v.32/v.42/bis
Reply-To: sysop@etacbbs.knox.tn.us (Sysop) 

                    East Tennessee Adult Connection

        Our networks are in place, and the message bases are growing.
We now carry Throbnet, AfterDark, Usenet/Internet, and Relaynet.  We
specialize in ADULT GIF's, TEXT files, user written stories, online
games, doors and more.  This is an adults only system, accessible only
by membership.  Proof of age required.

                Give us a call...
                        You won't be sorry...
                Adults only...
                        (615) 690-4716  -  9600 v.32/v.42/bis

.. Charlie - SysOp ..
.. Valerie - CoSysOp ..
From: root@micro-c.mcds.com (Postmaster Account)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.ads
Subject: Dan's Domain - A Clothing Optional BBS!
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 11:29:51 EDT
Organization: Dan's Domain, Randolph, New Jersey

   Come on into Dan's Domain...  A Clothing Optional BBS

     While in Dan's Domain, there is no dress code, you are 
   free to wear (or not wear) what you wish.

     If you are a BBS'er that opt's not to wear clothing while
   computer using, BBSing, or other social activities, stop on
   by.  The Sysop of Dan's Domain is also the editor of Naturist
   Family News, the newsletter of Tri-State Metro Naturists.

     If you are more comfortable wearing clothes while in a BBS,
   you are also welcome - as is the meaning, clothing optional...

     So, come on into Dan's Domain!  Call (201) 366-5018.

   Internet E/Mail - Usenet News - FTP by Request - Files - MORE!
         ---- UUCP Feeds Available (AFFORDABLE!!!) ----

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