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From: mhardy@acorn.co.uk (Michael Hardy)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: regular expressions (was Re: Assorted questions)
Date: 27 Aug 92 10:30:14 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

In article <h9anmrk@lynx.unm.edu> wilcox@carina.unm.edu (Sherman Wilcox) writes:

>Why, oh why, didn't Frame
>just put a complete grep into the Mac FM? Is it built into FM on other
>platforms?

Versions up to 1.3 used full UNIX regular expressions. When version 2.0 came
out, Frame decided in their infinite wisdom to give us the current
pathetic regular expressions. A definite retrograde step, which I moaned
about like mad to comments@frame.com. If you feel strongly enough about
this, do the same; but I doubt they'll change it back. They'll probably
mutter about multiple platform support,and simplicity, and other excuses...

- Michael J Hardy

  Technical Publications    Email:      mhardy@acorn.co.uk
  Acorn Computers Ltd       Telephone:  +44 223 214411
  Cambridge TechnoPark      Fax:        +44 223 214382
  645 Newmarket Road        Telex:      817875 ACORN G
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  England                   Disclaimer: All opinions are my own, not Acorn's
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: lms@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Max Stern 310-524-6152)
Subject: Re: Frame to NROFF filter for MAN page Creation
Keywords: filter NROFF MAN
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 01:45:50 GMT

In article <3460@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> rotherme@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Pete Rothermel) writes:
>Does anybody know an easy way to go create MAN pages in
>Frame? I have several MAN pages I need to create and I
>don't want to dig out my dusty notes on NROFF/TROFF. If
>somebody knows a way to use FRAME to create the documents
>it would save me alot of grief.
>
>Thanks in advance
>Pete R

I don't believe there's a Frame interface for man pages, but I'm not
sure.  This is a FAQ, but I don't remember the FUR [Frequently Uttered
Reply].  But...

You don't really have to go digging through your dusty NROFF/TROFF
notes.  Just read the MAN(7) man page, which describes the special
macros for man page formatting, and take a look at one or two of the
man source files in your manpage directory as models.  It really ain't
very hard.
-- 

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 |  | /   \ /\                      Max.Stern@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: pace@rook (Stephen O. Pace)
Subject: Voice Recognition and Frame (SPARC) 
Summary: Supplying commands to Frame via voice 
Organization: Shell Oil
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 14:36:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.191705.980@evb.com> mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh) writes:
>
>Would like to program the function keys to do things like,
>save, import, bold, italic...
>
>I thought I could save a lot of time if I could get one of
>those configuration files from the net and change it to meet
>my requirements. Please respond by email.
> 
>B.G. Mahesh
>mahesh@evb.com

Another interesting thing you could do is supply FrameMaker commands
by voice.  I've been playing around with a demo of IN3 Voice Command,
and I was extremely surprised at how accurate the recognition
capabilities are.  The demo only allows you to define a limited lexicon
(like page up and down, paragraph catalog, etc.), but the full blown
package allows you to define whatever commands you want.

I have no idea how much adding a huge lexicon impacts the performance
of the system.

You need a SPARC with OpenWindows 3.0 to run the demo.  I'm using the
mike that came with my Sun to run the demo, but Command Corp. recommends
getting a better mike for heavy usage of the full blown package.

Anyway, the demo is free, and it's an interesting idea.  Of course, the
downside is, everyone who passes your office while you are using it
thinks you are completely insane.

Command Corp., Inc.                Phone:  (404) 925-7950
3675 Crestwood Parkway             FAX:    (404) 925-7924
P.O. Box 956099
Duluth, GA  30136-9502             Usenet:  ..!emory!gacc!in3
-- 
Stephen Pace                                       pace@shell.com
Shell Oil Company, Houston                           713/493-7929
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: fcw@telecom.ti.com (Fred Wedemeier)
Subject: Re: Error messages
Reply-To: fcw@telecom.ti.com
Organization: TI Telecom Systems, Dallas
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:21:05 GMT

In article 20209@cscs.ch, nvecchi@cscs.ch (Nicole Vecchi) writes:
> I'm running 3.0 on Sun Sparcstation2.
> 
> When using the keyboard during text editing, I receive the following error message
> with _every_ key stroke:
> 
> X Toolkit Warning: 
>     Name: item4
>     Class: XmText
>     Invalid margin height, must be >= 0.
> 
> This doesn't happen all the time, but once it starts, it never stops until
> I exit FrameMaker.  Ideas?
> 

I asked comments@frame.com and got the following answer:
 
> > If you start FrameMaker with the following option these messages
> > will go away. This is happening because the current window manager
> > decoration is set to 0.
> > 
> > maker -wmwrapperht ##
> > 
> > where ## is the number of pixels to reserve for the window manager
> >   decoration.  FrameMaker has a max document height of the screen 
> >   minus wmwrapperht.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Steve Strange
> > Frame Technical Support
> > 

---
Fred Wedemeier    pho: 214-997-3213     fax: 214-997-3639
                timsg: fcw             inet: fcw@pioneer.telecom.ti.com

Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: John Wilkins <john@publications.ccc.monash.edu.au>
Subject: Re: fmbatch Open mif = Internal error 171794
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CD188DFF022434@manager.ccc.monash.edu.au>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 4 Sep 92 21:43:41 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Melbourne Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:42:59 GMT

In article <memo.608366@cix.compulink.co.uk> Tim Bunce,
tbunce@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>How do I mail bug reports to frame?
>Is there a published bug list?

Mail to comments@frame.com

John Wilkins
Manager, Publishing & Advertising
Monash University, Melbourne Australia
Internet: john@publications.ccc.monash.edu.au
Tel: (+613) 573 2099

"Nature is profligate in variety but niggardly in innovation"
Charles Darwin, Origin of Species
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: nvecchi@cscs.ch (Nicole Vecchi)
Subject: Error messages
Followup-To: nvecchi@cscs.ch
Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico / CH-6928 Manno
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:33:28 GMT

I'm running 3.0 on Sun Sparcstation2.

When using the keyboard during text editing, I receive the following error message
with _every_ key stroke:

X Toolkit Warning: 
    Name: item4
    Class: XmText
    Invalid margin height, must be >= 0.

This doesn't happen all the time, but once it starts, it never stops until
I exit FrameMaker.  Ideas?

Nicole


Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: euampn@eua.ericsson.se (Martin.Palsson)
Subject: Importing anchored frames by reference
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:46:51 GMT

 I wonder if anybody know of any soulution to the following problem:

 I have a number of documents which forms a structure. I have made an
illustration of the structure in an anchored frame. In this illustration
I have hypertextlinks to all the documents in my structure. Now a want to
include this illustration in all documents in the structure so that the 
illustration of the document structure with hypertextlinks is available in
all documents.

To make it easy to change a hypertextlink (or the docuemnt structure itself) I
would like to store the illustration on one place only and let the other
documents have references to this place. Does anybody know if this is possible?

I know that this can be made by letting each document be a book and by including
the documentstructuredocument by reference int each book, but I don't like that
solution.

Thanks
/Martin Paalsson
From: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: FrameMaker license server question
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 06:07:03 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The GRAFex Company

lab@tellabs.com (Lester Bautista) writes:

]...[
 
> Our site has a license pool of 43 floating licenses on a SUN network. We
> purchased the $100 media fee (FrameMaker 3.1X) for the HP and Apollo
> platforms. As long as they can access the SUN network, our HP and Apollo
> users can check out a license from our SUN floating license pool. All
> we really had to do when we installed FrameMaker on the HP and Apollo was
> edit $FMHOME/.fminit2.0/env.{csh,sh} by defining two environment
> variables: FRAMEUSERSD_HOST and FRAMEUSERSD_RC.

I KNEW there was another step.  It's been a long time since I did this.

steve

play: steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US 408.252.0578    work:harding@nas.nasa.gov
              A prince trapped in the body of a dirty old man.
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: bill@texan.rosemount.com (William Hawkins)
Subject: One text source for many docs
Organization: Rosemount, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:55:10 GMT

Is there something in Frame that will allow multiple documents
to contain the same text, the way #include or import by reference
allow a graphic to be included, and track changes in the source?

The problem comes from a fax message distribution problem.  I have
a committee with 15 members, none of whom are on the 'net :-(
So I made up 15 Fax Lead Sheets, one for each member.  The sheet
contains a Subject line and about 5 inches of text space.  I've
got them in a book, so one print command prints them all.  I'd
like to be able to fill in the subject line and text space from
a single file, so that they all get the same message.  If there's
more pages than the lead sheet, those are only printed once.  I
don't want to cut and paste to 15 lead sheets for each new message.

We are running Version 3.1X, Jan 92.  Any ideas?

bill@texan.rosemount.com  Bill Hawkins  612 895-2085 (VoiceMail)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: rim@bme.ri.ccf.org (Robert M. Cothren)
Subject: inserting blank pages
Organization: Biomedical Engineering, Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:16:16 GMT

I am using a running footer in a document to include a page number,
and I generate a table of contents for the document when complete.  I
would like to be able to include a copy of non-Frame forms and/or
correspondence as part of the document by skipping the proper number
of pages and inserting a Xerox of the form and/or correspondence after
printing.  The only way I have found to do this is to insert several
blank pages (which would still contain the running header and footer
if printed) in the document using "Top of Column" in the paragraph
format, and then not print these pages.  The problem is that a typical
document may be several hundred pages long, and contain several of
these forms.  Printing this way becomes a VERY tedious task.  However,
printing the "blank" pages wastes paper and wear on our printer.

Is there any way to say "increment the page number by this much" so
that no extra pages are generated but the page numbers in the running
footer and the table of contents are correct?

-- 
----Robert M. Cothren, PhD--------------------------rim@bme.ri.ccf.org----
    Biomed. Engineering and Applied Therapeutics   
    The Cleveland Clinic Foundation                voice: 216 445-9305
----Cleveland, Ohio----------------------------------fax: 216 444-9198----
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame,news.answers
From: brighid@bass.lkw.com (Brighid)
Subject: .Xdefaults & SCO ODT
Organization: Lakewood Corporation
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:32:09 GMT

I'm running Frame 3.1 under SCO's ODT 2.0.0 and I am not
a X or Motif or even UNIX expert. 

Problem: I can't get my paragraph format window to appear
on the screen. (Try using Frame quickly without that one!)
I've set the x and y coordinates in my personal .Xdefaults
file. Changing them doesn't seem to have any effect on
the way Frame displays. This includes restarting ODT,
logging in and out and rebooting the machine.

I've tried asking Frame's Tech Support but their response
was on the order of, well, this should work and when you
figure it out, could you please tell us?

Anyone got any suggestions?

Brighid Wood

brighid@lkw.com
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Changing printers - for all documents
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:45:22 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <smr.715249557@hitkw14> smr@hitkw14.pki-nbg.philips.de (S.Riehm) writes:
<We have recently installed some new printers in our department, and I
<now don't have to run up and down two flights of stairs to collect my
<printouts, however, the default printer is always the name of the old
<printer, not the name of the new one.
<
<We have set the PRINTER and LPDEST environment variables, but
<framemaker seems to ignore them, is there a simple way to make
<framemaker realise that you don't want to use the old printer, but
<instead the new one that is only a few feet away from your desk would
<be a lot more convenient.

That won't do it.  You have to change the printer name in the printer box
when you do a printout.

To keep from doing that for new documents, set the following resource in
the file:

	.fminit2.0.ps/xresources/Maker

	Maker.printerName

It works for us.
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From: dma@cs.bham.ac.uk (Denis Anthony)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: .Xdefaults & SCO ODT
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:31:15 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Birmingham University. Great Britain

In article <1992Aug26.133209.3420@bass.lkw.com> brighid@bass.lkw.com (Brighid) writes:
>I'm running Frame 3.1 under SCO's ODT 2.0.0 and I am not
>a X or Motif or even UNIX expert. 
>
>Problem: I can't get my paragraph format window to appear
>on the screen. (Try using Frame quickly without that one!)
>I've set the x and y coordinates in my personal .Xdefaults
>file. Changing them doesn't seem to have any effect on
>the way Frame displays. This includes restarting ODT,
>logging in and out and rebooting the machine.
>
>I've tried asking Frame's Tech Support but their response
>was on the order of, well, this should work and when you
>figure it out, could you please tell us?
>
>Anyone got any suggestions?

It rather depends on your X setup. ie. what window manager you are
using (twm, owm etc.) and what are in the X scripts.

I presume you mean the whole frame window is not on screen, that the
rightmost portion is chopped, ie. your screen sounds a little small.
If paragraph mode can't be seen on screen presumably you can't see the
resize icon either.  A quick hack would be to move the window left,
and resize it using the resize icon (top right corner), then move it
back till you see all the window on screen, then resize it to what you
will.

Alternatively you could use a virtual screen (twm can be configured to
do this).

Denis
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: tpe@IDA.LiU.SE (Tommy Persson)
Subject: BibFrame and OLframe
Organization: CIS Dept, University of Linkoping, Sweden
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:35:16 GMT


To use BibFrame and OLframe the keyboard macro file "bibframe.kbm3"
can be used.  Unfortunately it is the case that the macros ESC-bk and
ESC-bm do not work together with OLframe and it seems to be impossible
to make them work as before.  One solution to this problem is to use
two keyboard macros to input the "key":

   <\!bk1 : \!sv\x489 \x9 \ \x489 \x9 []\x489 cite- >
   <\!bk2 : \x489 \x9 \x9 \x9 \x9 \ \xd \xd >

ESC-bk1 is used to pop up the variable creation window and making []
the value of the variable and "cite-" the beginning of the variable
name.  The "key" should be appended to "cite-" and the value of the
variable can be modified.  Then use ESC-bk2 to insert the variable in
the document.

--
Tommy Persson                                  ! A finger!  And as you can
Linkoping University                           ! see it is better designed
Department of Computer and Information Science ! for pressing buttons than
Sweden                                         ! holding writing implements.
tpe@ida.liu.se                                 ! -- Tarrant, Blake's Seven --
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: dboldt@dsdbqvarsa (David Boldt (x5679))
Subject: FrameMaker postscript utilities
Keywords: postscript
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:16:09 GMT

One of the new features of Frame 3.0, according to the documentation, is 
conformance with Adobe Postscript Structuring Conventions, which should make 
it possible for other applications to read FrameMaker Postscript files and 
rearrange the pages in any order.

Does anyone have such a utility that will run on an AT&T SVR5 system?

                           -- david boldt   dboldt@qvarsa.er.usgs.gov
                                            Computer Specialist
                                            US Geological Survey
                                            Water Resources Division
                                            Reston, VA    (703 648-5679)
-- 

                           -- david boldt   dboldt@qvarsa.er.usgs.gov
                                            Computer Specialist
                                            US Geological Survey
From: ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se (Mike Rembis 6259)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: frame and olvwm
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:39:52 GMT
Reply-To: ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Business Communications, Inc.

In article 2035@dutiws.tudelft.nl, graaff@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Hans de Graaff) writes:
>In article <l9qp6jINNs7u@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> dalbec@clavin.Eng.Sun.COM (Gabe Dalbec) writes:
>>Does anyone know how to make frame behave properly under olvwm?  That is,
>>so that it doesn't "stick" and follow you around to each virtual screen.
>
>You don't say which version of frame you are using, but I guess it's
>3.0OL, the OpenLook version. They just installed that version on our
>machines here, and it doesn't seem to stick. Actually, it doesn't seem
>to care about X much at all. It behaves like one of those SunView
>application. ("The screen is mine, all mine. Mine, you hear!")
>
>Anyway, Frame 3.0X works nicely, and also understands the virtual
>desktop and other X-programs, so I guess I'll stick to that.
>
>Hans
>--


Well on page two of the *Open Issues* document for Frame 3.1A (which is the OL release)
they state that using Frame on OLVWM can cause "unpredictable results". Therefore,
we have removed OLVWM from general use here for our Framers.
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Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
From: franks@berlin.rtp.dg.com (Alan Franks)
Subject: Re: FrameMaker license server question
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 13:45:26 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

>sloane@tss.com (Gary Sloane) writes:

>>Ruben Linder writes:

>>> Is there a way to use FrameMaker on a SGI with a SUN based license server ?

>>To run FM remotely:

>>	1.	rlogin to a Sun on your local network
>>	2.	setenv DISPLAY <yourmachinename>:0
>>	3.	start maker from the remote shell on the Sun

>This is not what Ruben asked. As I'm deeply interested in the answer,
>too, I shall try to ask Ruben's question again:

>If you have floating licenses, and the license server --- the program that
>counts the # of running licenses, and prevents you from starting
>another one, if you reached the maximum # --- is hosted on a Sun, will it
>recognize and count a license that is running on an SGI workstation?

>-Marc

The answer, I'm sorry to say, is *no*.  FrameMaker 2.x and 3.x will not allow you
to use licenses "across platforms."  In Frame 3.1, if you take a look at the file
$FMHOME/.fminit2.0/frameusers, under the "<Vendor..."  section, you'll notice
that the last statement reads something like:

	<VendorName DataGeneral>

Basically what this means is that the vendor tag is tied to the licenses, so
you can't retrieve a SGI license from a Sun, DG from HP, etc.  

The logic behind this, my best guess, is $$$$$.  Frame has several OEM 
distribution channels, Data General being one of them.  The end price of the software varies among these distribution channels.  Also, I recall that Frame
runs specials on certain platforms, from time to time.  If they were to allow
this cross-platform licensing, you could buy one copy of the software on your
primary platform, let's say Sun, and then run out and buy 5 floating licenses
on SCO UNIX, which I recall cost much less.  Oh well, maybe I'm right, maybe
I'm wrong.  How's that for a guess?

-alan
 
-- 
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Integrated System Applications   UUCP:     {world}!mcnc!rti!dg-rtp!franks
Data General Corporation
62 T.W. Alexander Drive
RTP, NC. 27709                   Phone:    919-248-6312
From: ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se (Mike Rembis 6259)
Newsgroups: comp.text.frame
Subject: Re: Grammar Checker for FrameMaker ?
Date: 1 Sep 92 23:19:50 GMT
Reply-To: ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Business Communications, Inc.

In article 13021@tellab5.tellabs.com, lab@tellabs.com (Lester Bautista) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.150800.12672@linus.mitre.org> mkrause@mitre.org (Mark Krause) writes:
>>Is there a grammar checker for FrameMaker, either third-party or
>>publick domain??
>
>I attended a Chicago Frame User's Network (FUN) meeting and found
>the following 3rd party vendors that have a grammatic checker for
>FrameMaker:
>
>    Grammatik                                   Austin Clark
>    Reference Software International            tel. (415) 541-0222
>    330 Townsend, Suite 123                     fax. (415) 541-0509
>    San Francisco, CA 94107                     unit price - $495
>		 
>    Proof Positive                              Nancy Tomadson
>    Avalanche Development Company 		tel. (303) 449-5032
>    947 Walnut St.  				fax. (303) 449-3246
>    Boulder, CO 80302 				unit price - $395
>
>I had heard that Grammatik is available only for FrameMaker on ms windows,
>macs, and sco. Proof Positive might be available on suns.
>-- 
>
>Lester Bautista                       internet : lab@tellabs.com
>Tellabs, Inc.                         tel:       708-512-7820
>4951 Indiana Ave., Lisle, IL 60532    fax:       708-512-7099


Proof Positive does indeed exist for the Suns. Trouble is that it does not yet
support the current version of Frame, only an older rev. Was a bit of a b*tch to
install too. In all fairness, it was a beta test we were doing - so now we are waiting
for the next release.


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