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From: 2ftrribbon@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Robert Hill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Re: ORCA/C 2.0 is shipping! (Was Re: Missing library functions)
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:11:57 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <behrenss.724537037@hphalle6>, behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE 
(Soenke Behrens) writes:
> 2ftrribbon@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Robert Hill) writes:
> 
>>Apparently, 2.0 is shipping;  if you bought ORCA/C
>>before Sept. 1, 1992, the upgrade is $25, otherwise it is $50 (until Feb. 28,
>>1993).
> 
> I thought the other way round? New users pay $25, old users $50?
> Anyway, I surely hope it has improved by 347% since D4 ... what use is a
> faster compiler that produces code that crashes faster? :)

	You are right about the pricing.  I meant to write if you bought ORCA/C
after Sept. 1, the upgrade was $25.
 
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From: taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao)
Subject: Re: Improving EMACS
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:02:25 GMT

In article <lf71906@pro-sol.cts.com> mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com (Morgan Davis) writes:
>
>There was a really good reason why you couldn't do this.  I think it was
>because you can only change existing $variables, not create new ones.
>The only alternative was to use %variables instead.

    OK, I was just curious about that.  Not that it really matters to the rest
of the program.  Another thing, setting variables on the command line (via
the -I switch) doesn't seem to take effect until *after* the startup script
is run.  I want to pass the $USER and $HOME environment variables from the
shell the MuGS startup script, but it always returns ERROR.  Only after the
script has finish executing are the variables set properly.  I'm using
'emacs -I%user $user' on the command line.
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From: mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com (Morgan Davis)
Subject: Re: Improving EMACS
Organization: ProLine [pro-sol], Rancho San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:42:13 PST

In <1992Dec12.050031.18427@r-node.gts.org>
taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao) writes:

>    I noticed that two so-called "system" variables (%restart and %tempdir)
>are really user variables, according to their notation.  Shouldn't they
>be $restart and $tempdir?  Just nit-picking...

There was a really good reason why you couldn't do this.  I think it was
because you can only change existing $variables, not create new ones.
The only alternative was to use %variables instead.

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: GNO-L Test Message
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:51:43 GMT

If you're on the mailing list version of comp.sys.apple2.gno (i.e., GNO-L)
and you receive this message okay, please drop me (bazyar@csn.org) a
note via email.  Hopefully, the kind people at Colorado SuperNet have
taken care of all the problems encountered so far in the csa2.gno->GNO-L
gateway and you should all get your GNO fixes now :)

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Curses & gethostname
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 09:02:26 GMT

henigan@quando.quantum.de (Kevin Henigan) writes:

>Hi all,

>I'm trying to port a un*x program and need the un*x curses library
>I seem to remember that someone mentioned that it's been or being
>ported, any info would be greatly appreciated.

  It works, sort of.  Curses hasn't been a priority due to my hectic
schedule lately.  I'll see what I can do with it here in the next
couple of weeks.

>Also I need gethostname, has one already been written?
>It's very easy to write but I need to know what it should do, will
>there be an environment variable called host or hostname or .....
>If it's not there I could return just "GS".

  We'll be adding gethostname() into the kernel along with the
other networking code for 1.1.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: u7913084@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: test1
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:15:12 GMT

 
  This is a test!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Subject: Re: Quitting GNO programs
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:14:53 GMT

larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider) writes:

>Mine only goes to appendix E; where do you get the rest of it??

What year's your manual? Mine's (C) 1990 and it has an Appendix F. Maybe
yours is old.. (?)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: Improving EMACS
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:22:45 GMT

In article <bazyar.724087848@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
> 
>    Shell programs have quit (at least ORCA/C shell progs) with QuitGS
> for some time now.. oh, only if you have an exit() call in the program.

No, returning from main() also invokes a QuitGS call.  You only get an
RTL if you use the #pragma rtl directive.

That is beside the point - the shell has to support shell programs
exiting with RTL, as it is a documented exit method.  (In fact, the
GS/OS reference manual says that it is up to the shell whether it
supports exiting via QuitGS.)
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From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Dummlall
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:56:22 GMT

Yup,

this is a maze program. Quite short, actually. Found it on the net and think
it to be neat, so here you are.

'a' means turn left, 'd' turn right, 's' step forward. You may specify more
than one command per step.
Ah yes: Very important: Name this file buzzard.c, cmpl it, and keep both the
source and the executable together.

Soenke

======== schnipp ============ schnapp =============

#include <stdio.h>
#define X(s) (!(s&3)-((s&3)==2))
#define W while
char Z[82][82],A,B,f,g=26;z(q){return atoi(q);}m(d,l){return
Z[   B       +    X      (   f     +
3) * d+l *X(f+ 2 )][ A+X ( f ) * d +
l* X           (     f     + 3 ) ] ;}int
h= 0;D(p,s)char*s; {W(h>>3<p>> 3 ) {putchar('\t'
);           h =       (       h   +8
)&~7 ;}W(h < p ){putchar(' ');++h; }(void)printf(
"%s"   ,   s                 )     ;h+=strlen(s);}main(x,a)char **a; {
# define P(x) (x?(5-(x))*(6-(x ))/2:11)
int b; { char b[256],i,  j=0;  FILE*F;F=fopen(x-1?a[1]:"buzzard.c","r");W(
fgets( b ,256 ,F)){for(i=0;b[ i];++ i)
Z[j][i ] =( b [     i   ]     ==' '?1:2*(b[i]==(x>2?*a[2]:'\\')));++j;}fclose
(F);}A   =4 ; B = 3 ; f = 1;x >3? A=z(a[3]),B=z(a[4]):0;b='\n';do{if(b=='\n'
){int y ,     s , d , p   , q       ,i;for
(y=-11; y<= 11;++ y){ for(s = 1 ,d=0;s+3;s-=2){for
(;d!=2    +       3   * s     ;     d+=s){
if(m(d,0) !=1 ){p=P (d) ;if (abs( y )
   <p&&   !   m       (       d   , 0 )||abs(y)>p)break;for
(i  =-p;i<p;++i)D(g+i*2,"--");D(0,"\-");break;}if(d==5)continue;
p=P(d+1);q=P(d);if
(abs(y)		>q)continue;if 
(abs(y)		<p)D(g-s*(2*p+1),"|");else if(m(d,s)){if
(abs(y)		<=p)for(i=(s==1?-q:p);i!=(s==1?-p:q);
(abs(y)		),++i)D(g+2*i+(s==-1),"--");}else if
(abs(y)		==p)D(g-s*(2*p+1),"|");else D(g-
(abs(y)		*s*2),(s==1)^(y>0)?"\\":"/");}d-=s;}puts(
"");h=0;}}f+=(b=='d')-(b=='a');f&=3;if(b=='s'){if(!m(1,0))continue;
A+=X(f);B+=X(f-1);}}W((b=getchar())!=-1&&m(0,0)==1);return 0;}

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From: hartkopf@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jeff Hartkopf)
Subject: Re: Bug in Stevie?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:24:20 GMT

In article <bazyar.724478336@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>hartkopf@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jeff Hartkopf) writes:
>
>>I have a problem with Stevie, the vi clone for GNO.  It doesn't seem 
>>to be able to break a line in two by inserting a newline in the
>>middle of a line--the rest of the line from the insertion point on
>>gets lost.  
>
>  I do this all the time in Stevie without a problem. Make sure you've
>got the very latest version from Pindarus (It's dated June or July).
>It could be a screen driver bug in Stevie that was fixed some time
>ago.

I got the latest version just recently, thinking that might fix the 
problem.  The executable is dated July 18, 1992, but the problem still 
occurs.

Any other ideas?


Jeff Hartkopf
University of Colorado at Boulder
Internet: hartkopf@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: zane@ddsw1.mcs.com (Sameer Parekh)
Subject: FAQ: The ftp sites
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:17:03 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL


	I know this is a FAQ, but the FAQ expired at my site, and I don't
know where the ftp sites are--

	Where are the ftp sites for GNo prodcuts, such as telcom, rz, MuGS,
etc.?
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From: vagrant@vpnet.chi.il.us (Guy Umbright)
Subject: Re: A modest experiment
Organization: Vpnet - Free Usenet access
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:38:27 GMT

Andy McFadden (fadden@uts.amdahl.com) wrote:
: For those of you wondering what the difference between HardPressed and
: AutoArk is...

: I recently booted a copy of System 6.0 with HardPressed installed.  Big
: deal.  Well, the trick is that it was on a write-protected 800K floppy, and
: even after installing all of the HardPressed files, it had more space on it
: than it did before compressing stuff.

: The best part is, it only took a few seconds longer to boot.

: In case you want to nit-pick, it was a single 800K floppy all by its
: lonesome; no other volumes were involved in the process.  I stuck it into the
: disk drive and booted all the way into the Finder.  And yes, it really
: was write protected.  I have witnesses. :-)


: I don't want to give out any specific numbers, because it's still in the
: "almost done" stage, and they will likely change.  I don't really want to
: give out a release date either, for a variety of good reasons.  "Soon."

: -- 
: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
: [ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]

(CLAP, CLAP, CLAP, ...)

Congratulations.    I look eagerly forward to its release.

But why does one software vendor (I dont recall who) have it listed in
the lastest Incider/A+?   (Damn those deadlines!   :)  )
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: //e rev-A upgrade
Keywords: //e upgrade
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:59:24 GMT

I'm pretty sure the Apple II Guide lists the Apple IIe Rev A -> Rev B
upgrade as still available and free at any dealer.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: "Apple II Forever" (Was: Re: Project Apple Storm) 
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 07:50:59 GMT

In article <Bz3x7C.D1G@well.sf.ca.us> joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) writes:
>
>>> Well, no matter what happens, will you still be able to continue sourcing
>>> out neat shareware and PD programs?
>
>Philip - Pardon my ignorance, but I don't know what you're asking. What do
>you mean by the phrase "sourcing out"?

Just worried that your information lines to new shareware/PD software might
be cut off were you to find yourself in jail for 5 years or whatever the
term was.
 
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao)
Subject: Re: NuLib v3.23 now available
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:01:52 GMT

In article <81Et03gBc3RJ00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) writes:
>
>Your version of tar must be brain-dead; I've never seen this happen before.

    No doubt.  I think it has something to do with my 'umask' setting.  I have
to set it to 000 and that seems to work on some of the files, but afterwards
I check the directories, and they are all in mode 700 or something similar.
If I manually create the directories, things work out.

>Do you have problems with all "tar" archives, or just this one?  Can you
>unpack tar archives from other users on your machine?

    Any tar file I don't make myself.  It definitely sounds like something
I'm doing wrong then (or a wierd version of tar).  I'll check with the powers-
that-be here...
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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Stop IBM Pirate Lamers!
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:00:15 GMT

irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:

>Ok, here's the situation:  IBM pirate lamers running an Apple II+ emulator
>have stuffed pub/nyet/apple2em/ on cco.caltech.edu with copyright disk images
>and ROM images.  Todd Whitesel can do nothing about this since that's not
>his area of the archive.  Therefore, if as many of you as possible send protest
>mail to the following, something might get done:

  Forget that, find out where they've got the ROM image stored and
send a note to SW.LICENSE@applelink.apple.com.

>II Infinitum, on machines which say "Apple" on the case!

  Amen.
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From: sander@cerebus.cc.edu (Happy New Year!)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Using fonts > 255 points
Summary: Pointless 2.0 stuff
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:57:44 GMT
Organization: Carroll College-Waukesha, WI


Quackduck,  really.  Pointless 2.0 blows 1.0 way to high heaven.   The
font re-draws are very quick.  Pointless really knows how to take
advantage of even a moderately zipped machine like mine. (9/16).  Version
1.5 instead of 2.0 might be more appropriate considering there is little
actual functionality change.  I like not having the filling in wheel and
seeing what the font looks like when I go to choose one quickly.

Scott Anderson
sander@elektra.cc.edu
 
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From: irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy)
Subject: Re: Attn Michael Henitz (ab20 mods)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:57:57 GMT

In article <SKNKWRKS.92Dec11115732@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu> sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:
>In article <Bz2zqM.JB5@news.iastate.edu> irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
>>Ian, who doesn't understand why everyone's so hot over soniqTracker :)
>
>Hate to burst your bubble...but could it be that soniqTracker offers
>more faithful reproduction of MODs?  I tried running one of the MODs
>on my system (CYBER.MOD) past MODZap and...well, the results weren't
>exactly the best in the world.  (Specifically, some of the voices were
>way off-key and the glide function overshot quite a bit.)

This is a known bug.  People I trust have had this fixed for months.
FYI, faithful doesn't mean anything unless compared to an Amiga.  Tim's never
seen/used one.  I have :)

The rest of you will wait for 0.85.  In a few more words: remix and save, 
QuadraScope, MultiScope, full Lars Hamre-approved ProTracker emulation.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Wish list for FAX software on the GS
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 10:36:51 GMT

90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) writes:

>    Is it possible to answer the fax call and put it on hold until the
>computer is ready to receive?  How about distinguishing voice calls from
>data calls from fax calls?

The first not as easy as that, since the FAX machine only waits for about 30s
before it terminates if no connection is made. The voice/data/FAX thang is
supported by the FAX modem, if it is not super-cheap. I know for sure
the Supra can do it, and the ZyXEL too, of course. Software has to know
about that and support it, too, but that should be possible, no?

Soenke
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From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Using fonts > 255 points
Date: 13 Dec 92 08:34:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: chasm.9212130834.AA16574
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes...
> 
> Yeah, except that if the system thinks it's a 50-point font, when you print
> to a StyleWriter it will ask for a 225-point font to scale down, which mean
> your system will be asked to image some characters of a 2250-point font.
> That takes (4.5)^2 times as much memory as the 500 point, which itself
> takes (50)^2 times as much memory as a ten point font (remember, the image
> scales in both horizontal and vertical directions).

    But then we're talking about printing a font 7 inches tall at 360 dpi! 
You would fit one or two letters on a standard page!  If a situation like
that ever arises, one should assume the user is intelligent enough to print
at maybe 180 or even 72 dpi (don't know if that's possible with the
StyleWriter, I use Harmonie...)

    Regarding memory usage:  since Pointless 2.0 renders only those
characters that are actually printed, the problem is alleviated somewhat. 
Assume a roughly square character bounds rectangle and some headline font
at 1000 points.  This translates to roughly 200 points (2.75 inches) on a
360-dpi printer (why did you use 4.5 instead of 5 in your calculations
above?), more than adequate for most purposes.  If 12 different characters
are used in the headline, a little over 1.4 megs will be eaten up.  This is
certainly within the capabilities of a 4.25-meg GS.  It also makes those
8-megabyte cards look *very* attractive.  ;-)

> (You very quickly get into huge problems of scale, especially since the
> Memory Manager stops at 8 MB.)

    But we have been using extreme examples.  Especially with better memory
management in Pointless 2.0, fonts larger than 255 points are technically
feasible.

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From: kls0@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Plague)
Subject: Printing trouble (from desktop applications)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:39:02 GMT

Ok, here's my problem.  When I print from like Teach or WordWorks, I get (at
the end of the page) part of a line of text on the bottom of the first page
and the other part of the line of text on the top of the next page.  It does
this all the time.  It did it on my Epson FX-80 and also on my Panasonic
1124.  Is there some way to fix this?  I specified the No Gaps Between Pages
both on and off, and either way it still prints like that.  I'm using a
Parallel Pro/w 256k Buffer Pro and a ROM 01 GS.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: C64 outsells Apple IIs? : (
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:43:09 GMT

ustai@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>	After all that hoo-haa about only selling 7 GS's...  seems that even a
>C64 outsells Apple IIs now... :(

Commodore is selling big-time in Europe and in Eastern Europe, which
Apple doesn't even seem to care about as far as the Apple // is concerned.
-- 
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From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: //e enhancement kit needed
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 08:07:18 GMT

I want a //e enhancement kit (65C02 and whatever else) at a rock-bottom
bargain price.  Please email me your offer or point me in the right
direction.  Thank you!

Mike
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