HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: CAV variable frame rate? (was Re: CAV vs CLV)
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:38:42 GMT
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine

In article <summer.717719859@mamura> summer@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Mark Summerfield) writes:
>
>According to an article in a local newsletter recently, CAV discs can be played
>at any frame rate, i.e. they are not restricted to 25/50 frames/sec PAL and
>30/60 frames/sec NTSC. The article claimed (on the basis of stopwatch trials
>with a computer controlled LD player playing a defined number of frames from
>a CAV disc) that some Criterion CAV titles actually ran at 24 frames/sec.

No, I don't think so.  At least for NTSC, the discs are played back at
60 fields/second.  If you stop and count frames you will only come up
with 24/sec (and some players like the Panasonic LX-1000 will even 
display a number after seconds which goes from 1 to 24) IF the frames 
have the proper markers, called 'white flags.'  That is IF the film
has been properly transfered to video so that alternate frames are
represented by 3 fields/2 fields (3/2 pulldown).  Most Criterion CAV
discs have been properly mastered.  Many Image ones have not.  For more
information see Bob Niland's article on the subject of 3/2 pulldown and
white flags (#12).  PAL discs could repeat the 12 film frame to get the
same effect, but (according to Bob Niland's article) most films are
transfered to laserdisc by just speeding up 4% (24 film frames to 25 video
frames, played back at 50 fields/second).


-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

Bill Cruce, N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
VOICE: 216-325-2511,  FAX: 216-325-0522,  INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu
From: LANDRYJ@hsdwl.utc.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: (none)
Date: 25 Sep 92 14:07:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


 DOES ANYONE ON THE NET KNOW WHERE I CAN DUB A PAL RECORDED TAPE TO THE NTSC
FORMAT? I WOULD LIKE TO DO IT AS CHEAPLY AS POSSIBLE. (I DO NOT WANT TO SPEND
$50.00/hr FOR DUBBING IF I DON'T HAVE TO!)

 I AM JUST GETTING INTO DOING POST PRODUCTION EDITING AND DUBBING OF HOME VIDEOS
USING MODERATELY PRICED COMMERCIAL EQUIPMENT. IF THERE IS ANYONE ON THE NET WHO
HAS HAD SOME EXPERIENCE DOING THIS,(TITLE INSERTING,MULTIPLE CAMERA EDITING,
COLOR CORRECTION,ETC.),I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM YOU!
 SOME QUESTIONS I HAVE ARE:
        1) HOW LONG SHOULD A VIDEO FADE LAST?
        2) HOW LONG SHOULD A TITLE, (I.E. TITLE OF THE VIDEO, CREDITS, END
           TITLE,ETC.),REMAIN ON THE SCREEN?
        3) WHAT IS THE TYPICAL LENGTH OF A VIDEO FADE? AN AUDIO FADE?
        4) IS THERE A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PANASONIC'S 'SYNCHRO-EDIT' JACK
           AND SONY'S 'LANC' JACK?

 ANY INPUT TO THESE QUESTIONS WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED.

                                              'JAKE"
From: 0004861036@MCIMAIL.COM (James Millick)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: HDTV Myths (again)
Date: 5 Oct 92 10:50:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

|>sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
:
: One proposal I had heard of for HDTV is that it would always be 
too
: complicated for household use,

:In France, HDTV television sets have been demoed for more than a 
:year in most of the bigger TV stores. Their operation is quite 
:equivalent to normal high-end sets. The HDTV decoder (HD MAC), 
still :external, is yet very easy to connect, using Scart 
connectors. The :only problems are the price, and the size of the 
tv set (mostly the :depth). but since its resolution (something 
like 1,025 lines I :think) is comparable to 35mm movie film, it 
could be used to replace :film in the movie industry.

	How many times do we have to hear this myth. HDTV *DOES NOT*, by 
any stretch of the imagination, even begin to equal 35mm film. To 
quote Jim Cameron 

JM: Have you seen *any* HDTV system that approaches what you can 
do with 35mm film?

JC: You mean in terms of resolution?

JM: Sure.

JC: No. No... they'd like to have you think it does, but it's 
about half as good as 35mm film. It's about half the resolution of 
a release print, right now, comparing the print to an 1125 line 
HDTV system. To approach film resolution, you need somewhere in 
the neighborhood of about 3000 lines, somewhere between 2000 and 
3000 lines, depending on a lot of factors... such as how critical 
you are.


	This of course assumes that we have enought bits per pixel to 
match film, as another netter pointed out, something we don't have 
yet. 
No offense to Simon, but I'm really getting tired of hearing how 
great HDTV is, when it doesn't begin to compare with 35mm film. A 
roadshow print of OKLAHOMA! in 1954, almost 40 years ago, would 
eat HDTV alive.

Jim Millick
Video Reviewer
The Perfect Vision
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: strong@tc.fluke.COM (Norm Strong)
Subject: Re: Distortion with rented videos
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:49:07 GMT

In article <4148@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
}In article <1992Sep22.015800.11043@newshost.unh.edu> tcw@kepler.unh.edu (Timothy C Webb) writes:
}<In article <BuwLp4.36F@unccsun.uncc.edu> krgorden@unccsun.uncc.edu (Kirk Ruel Gorden) writes:
}<>   Two weeks ago I bought a four head RCA VCR from Sears.  It works 
}<>perfectly, even on my 20 year old RCA TV.  However, rented tapes always
}<>seem to produce a bad picture.  Specifically, the top part of the
}<>picture is distorted, sometimes badly.
}<>   
}<>   This does not happen with tapes I record and play back, just rented
}<>tapes.  Adjusting the TV or VCR tracking has no effect.
}<
}<   I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the problem is
}<with the TV, not the VCR. You mention that it is twenty years old, and it is
}<not uncommon to see videotape distortion (especially at the top, as you say) on
}<older TV sets.
}
}It is the Macrovision signal on the tape that is affecting the TV.  My TV isn't
}that old and it flags as well.

It's not Macrovision.  I had EXACTLY the same problem with my 20 year
old RCA Colortrak set.  I had this problem in 1984, long before the
invention of Macrovision.  It was due to a different copy protection
scheme called Copyguard.  The lack of sufficient vertical sync signal
from the tape caused problems at the beginning of the field.  

The problem went away the second I bought a new TV set with digital
countdown vertical sync.  

-- 

Norm Strong  (strong@tc.fluke.com)
2528 31st S.   Seattle WA 98144   USA
From: deastman@VNET.IBM.COM ("Don Eastman")
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Time Base Correctors
Date: 30 Sep 92 06:16:16 GMT
Reply-To: deastman@vnet.ibm.com (Don Eastman -IBM,San Jose,CA)

I have been reading in the usenet references to Time Base Correctors
which replace (reconstruct?) the blanking interval.  Will a time base
corrector provide me with a noticeable improvement in picture quality
on a 60" rear projection TV?  By picture quality, I mean a more stable
picture.  Not that my picture is unstable but I do notice, if I look
real close, some vertical movement on horizon scenes.  i.e. mountains
which should be steady against the horizon, moving a few lines up and
down vertically.

What I am asking is will the quality of the projected image jump out
grab your attention after being time base corrected?  If the answer
is no, what is the main purpose of using a TBC?  Macrovision elimination?
If the picture is noticeably improved what is a good brand of TBC which
replaces, not passes, the blanking interval so as to also remove the
macrovision encoding.  Please include a price with your recommendations.
The TBC would be used with VHS, S-VHS, Laser Disk, and Cable TV.

I would really like to know why to TBC.

Thanks, Don

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Xref: sparky rec.video:11733 rec.video.releases:2995
From: lch3e@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Lauren C. Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases
Subject: Join Columbia House LD Club w/me, get an extra free disk
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:51:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia
Originator: lch3e@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU

If  you  join  thru me,  they send me a free disk.   So I'll  "split"  my 

freebie  with  you by giving you your choice of LADYHAWKE  or  EXCALIBUR  

free, p.paid.  Both are pan&scan, free of major defects, well-cared for, 

and less than one year old.



They are NOT as good-looking as the new lbx versions, especially LHawke.  

But they still beat VHS, have digital sound, and they're free!



You'll also get all the ins/outs/tips on Columbia House LDC.



Again,   while  they're  great  movies,  they're  not  greatly  mastered 

(Excalibur is OK,  LHawke is mediocre).  I want you to know exactly what 

you're getting.



     lch3e@virginia.edu    or  (804) 295-9995
Xref: sparky rec.video:11772 alt.3d:1178
Newsgroups: rec.video,alt.3d
From: tlai@cs.toronto.edu (Tony Wen Hsun Lai)
Subject: Re: 3D proposal for the under-construction HDTV standard
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:57:55 GMT

In article <26303@castle.ed.ac.uk> sss@castle.ed.ac.uk (S S Sturrock) writes:
>Technology developed by the BBC makes the frame rate moot since a TV could
>be fitted with their frame interpolation hardware which creates new frames
>by tracking motion between two frames.  The interpolated frames have the
>same resolution as the real frames.  Thus, a TV could have a very high
>frame rate even when fed with low frame rate material.  Of course, you
>could object to a TV that invents detail but may just get branded as a
>digiphobe because of it :-)

What about artifacts?  What is the quality of conversions from 60 Hz to
50 Hz and vice versa?  Does the system assume linear motion, or can it
handle rotational motion and zooming?
From: echen@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ed Chen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: 45" + TVs & Stereos, FAQ?
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:09:42 GMT
Reply-To: echen@u.washington.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Hi,

I am in the market for a 45" or larger TV, and surround sound stereo system.
I am not into the "best of the best" stuff, but kind of a good value/
performance/features.  

Is there a faq on these?  Where do I get it?  Or does anyone has any
recommendations (I bet these question are asked over & over again)?  Finally,
a pointer into which mag did a comparison would be helpful.  

					Thanks, Ed
					echen@burn.ee.washington.edu
From: edente@pearl.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: VCR reception of premium channels
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:24:43 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I would very much appreciate any help on the following problem.:
I just bought new SONY hi-fi stereo VCR. Connection runs thus:
Cable box/converter to VCR to monitor.  Thus, channel selection is at
cable box - both VCR and monitor tuned to Ch.3.  This is the problem -
All channels are received and displayed perfectly, whether VCR is set to
cable (normal through) or VCR except that the two premium channels HBO
and cinemax do not record or display well when set to VCR.  They
display perfectly when not viewed through tuner of VCR.  The picture
when set to VCR jitters, is wavy and one half of the screen is
brighter than other,  It's as if there is significant signal loss when
the premium channels go through VCR tuner.  I've already exchanged the
VCR and the new one does the same thing.  The cable co. has been out
and says their signal level is perfect.  The VCR is fine-tuned and
set exactly as it should be - as I said, all other channels are received
perfectly.  Is HBO broadcasting w/ Macrovision or something?  I'm going
batty trying to figure this out.
Thanks.
 
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.releases,rec.arts.movies,rec.music.video
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: REPOST: BETA Movie/Music List on Misc.forsale; updated 10/1
Followup-To: poster
Summary: Or, reply directly ONLY if you don't get Misc.forsale ...
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Distribution: na,jp
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:28:27 GMT

I have posted an updated (92/10/1) swap list of Movie/Music videoes 
in the Misc.forsale buffer for any Betamax users out there in netland.
These are all original store-bought, prerecorded items (former rentals
or bought brand new).

[Those of you who do not subscribe to Misc.forsale can send me e-mail
for a direct copy ... however, PLEASE keep these requests to a minimum]

A number of us Beta users on USENET have been overcoming the death of
our "poor man's laserdisc" format at the corner rental stores by the
exchange of our legal software.  Please join us, and post your list 
on Misc.forsale for the benefit of others (as well as yourself!) if 
you don't like mine ... (-;

gld
--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare				
> gld@cunixB.cc.columbia.EDU		Oct 26/92: Just say "OUI!"
> gld@cunixc.BITNET			(Let's worry about the economy!)
From: ahom@yingjow.tnds.bellcore.com (Allen Hom)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Mail order place for Pioneer's CLD-D701
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:10:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Network Data Collection Presentation and Processing Development


In article <1992Sep30.130907.17806@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes:
|> In article <97122@bu.edu> kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar) writes:
|> >
|> >Does anyone care to make recommendations for a mail order house
|> >for this LD player.  I've been checking out the ads in _Stereo 
|> >Review_, but would glady check out places not listed there. Or,
|> >if someone has an overwelming opinion (either for or against)
|> >on a specific mail order place, I'd be glad to here about that.
|> >Currently, 6th Ave Electronics has the best deal, and since they
|> >are an `authorized' Pioneer dealer, I figure they probably will
|> >have better customer service.
|> >
|> 	I wouldn't believe that 6th Ave. is `authorized', at
|> least not just cause they tell you. They are pretty well known
|> for being very slimy. There are many complaints in NYC about
|> their tactics.
|> 
|> 	While I'm not making an overwhelming recommendation for
|> them, New West Electronics got me my D701 for $740 without
|> hassle. 800 488-8877.
|> 	-- Ethan
|> 
|> 
|> purgamentum init, exit purgamentum

That's where I also got my D701, and aside from the "bugs"
that this machine is known for, it runs like a champ.  I know
somebody who had to exchange defective equipment back to them and
did so w/o hassle...
-- 
allen hom
Bellcore
ahom@tnds.bellcore.com
(908)699-5728
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: cue@apple.com (Eddy Cue)
Subject: Interlace on big screen
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 09:43:14 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: rec.video

I am getting some severe interlace in some scenes on my 50" Mitsubshi when
viewing a laser disc from my Pioneer 3090. The equipment is connected via a
Super-Video cable. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Eddy Cue
cue@apple.com
Xref: sparky rec.video:11855 rec.video.satellite:5258 sci.geo.meteorology:3149
From: jaegerwl@wckn.dorm.clarkson.edu (Bill Jaeger)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.satellite,sci.geo.meteorology
Subject: Re: Weather Maps (nonprofit news broadcast) ?
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:42:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: wckn.jaegerwl.717889358
Organization: Clarkson University

Curt.Miller@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Curt Miller) writes:

>I am working with a state university news program and was wondering 
>if anyone would know of a source of daily news weather maps,
>preferably temperature, cloud cover, and surface area maps; both
>national and state (Wisconsin).  These would have to be usable for
>no, or little charge, and would be preferable to be avaliable in 
>satellite feed form.  If anyone knows of a servie like this, please
>send me mail.

I too would be interested in find a service like this, however I'd be
more interested in New York State maps...  

				Thanks,
				-Bill


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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: afzal@divsun.unige.ch (Afzal Ballim)
Subject: Sony Hi8 VCRs in Europe
Reply-To: afzal@divsun.unige.ch
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:04:48 GMT

Hi,
	I have a question. Can anyone tell me what is the correspondence
between the Eurospec EV-S1000 and the USspec EV-S900/EV-S3000? I am a bit
confused because I've been told that the US machines don't have edit-monitor,
while the EV-S1000 does. What I really want to know is how good the EV-S1000
is for editing with a TR705E (Eurospec TR81).

Any help appreciated, thanks in advance.

(P.S. We seem to have a version of the RM-E700 without the titling features.
Is this any good, does anyone know?).

-- 
Afzal Ballim	             |BITNET,EARN,MHS,X.400: afzal@divsun.unige.ch
 ISSCO, University of Geneva |UUCP: mcsun!divsun.unige.ch!afzal
 54 route des Acacias	     |JANET: afzal%divsun.unige.ch@uk.ac.ean-relay
 CH-1227 GENEVA,Switzerland  |CSNET,ARPA: afzal%divsun.unige.ch@relay.cs.net
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony Tr101
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:55:46 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <01GPL9THGDAQ001H8U@utrcgw.utc.com>, LARIVEE@hsdwl.utc.com (HOT ROD) writes:
> 
> Called Computability and asked for a TR101. It is only being sold retail.
> I asked for a clone, and that supply has dried up too. All these mail order
> houses that advertise it are offering tremendous deals. Only they
> never have one. $1400-1600 is retail and I guess i'll wait.

Don't forget the clones...

SONY	RICOH	YASHICA	NIKON
------- ------- ------- -------
TR101	R18H	KXH3	VN750	

-- 

Jeff Killeen - DECUS NLC Chair | Email:killeen@eisner.decus.org

DECUS is the user group for folks interested Digital Equipment style computing.
The NLC is the national council for DECUS's Local User Groups - come join us!
Xref: sparky rec.video:11845 sci.electronics:16390
From: george@mech.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Cable "silver bullets"
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:19:52 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Mechanical Engineering

: I agree, though, that in the long run having
:you own satellite dish will save you money.
:However, how much extra money would 
:I need to spend to get a descrambler, etc?
:

in my brief look into going sattelite, it became apparent that to
_legally_ watch just 'basic' programs ( like CNN ) monthly charges
would quickly surpass a basic cable bill.



--
-george            george@mech.seas.upenn.edu  
Xref: sparky rec.video:11848 sci.electronics:16396
From: prmiskel@apgea.army.mil (Patricia R. Miskelly <prmiskel>)
Newsgroups: rec.video,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Cable "silver bullets"
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:16:01 GMT
Organization: Edgewood

In article <BvCnpz.8pA@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
>
>In article <em5PRB1w165w@entropy.mcds.com> morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus) writes:
>>
>>And then those of us who are in rural areas (or can't get decent reception
>>for whatever reason) lose all the broadcast stations.
>
>You're telling me that you live in a rural area which DOES get cable but
>does NOT have broadcast TV? Isn't that a rather unusual situation? I

I don't know about most rural areas, but this situation is quite
common in small cities.  I live in a small city, in a development
that mandates cable....no outside antennae at all.  But, as it turns 
out, those in the city that do have such antennae get lousy reception
anyway.

We are 40 miles north of Baltimore, which is the closest city with
broadcast TV.

>live in a fairly rural area - the city I live in has broadcast TV and
>cable, but the surrounding rural communities do not get cable (but can
>receive the TV broadcasts just fine).
>
>>disconnect my cable and use an antenna (on the roof) I get 2.5 channels (2
>>half-decent, one barely watchable).  With cable I get all the broadcast
>>channels I could want and then some (ie, 3 FOX affiliates, etc...).  And I
>>live in f'king New Jersey! What do you do if you live in Montana or
>>someplace?
>
>Take one years' worth of cable fees and buy yourself a satellite dish.
>Then you'll get even MORE channels, BETTER picture, and it'll probably
>cost you LESS in monthly fees.

I can't.....Homeowners' Association rules.

-- 
Pat Miskelly
pmiskel@dan.apgea.army.mil
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Joining Columbia House Laser Club
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:34:30 GMT
Distribution: na
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL6]

kelvin.ho (kho@cbnewsl.cb.att.com) wrote:

> I am considering joining the CHC Laser Club.  The current "application
> form/offer" is that I get 3 LDs ($1/each) initially, and I have to buy 2
> more in a year.  I remember awhile back they have better offer (like 4 LDs
> initially).  Does anyone have the "application form" for better offer?

That's the "best" offer they have ever had.  There have been rumors of a
"worse" one (commit to buy 4 at regular prices), but the 3x1 + 2xR is an
astounding deal for anyone who wants, for example, to buy the W/S Star Wars
set, 2 of anything else, and bail out.

I am not a CHLDC member and never have been.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: ** Barr LDDB -> PC **
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:10:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvCnqA.8qp
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <1992Sep29.103548.12258@alf.uib.no> singg@alf.uib.no (Kurt George Gjerde) writes:
>I have made a browse/view/search program for the
>Barr Digital LaserDisc Database for IBM PCs.
>
>(I can upload it to the site with the database, if anyone's 
>interested).

What is the site with the database?