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From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: IlakkaNam
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:08:39 GMT

In <Bz3ttG.1Gn5@austin.ibm.com> ali@fvtcmd07.austin.ibm.com (Saleem Mohammad Ali) writes:

>Thanks for the clarification Mr.Gopalaswamy.

>From what you have said, I conclude that a "meyyezhuthu" has to
>be used under the following conditions:

>1. Mudhalil varum vaarthai uyir ezhutthil mudiya veNdum.
>2. Pin varum vaarthai vallezhuthil arambamaga vendum.
>3. Mudhal ezhuthu "echamaga" (peyarecham[adjective], vinaiyecham[adverb])
>   ubayogikkap pattirukka vendum.

>Will this give all the cases where a meyyezhuthu is added?

>If not do you have any specific examples?

>NOTE: I didn't get this vallezhuthu doubling, but if you can, please
>post the list the list of the instances where this occurs.

>Thanks.


>-Saleem
  anparE!
           thamizh sangamaa? illai thamizhch changamaa?

Kathiravan.
From: elee6eg@elroy.uh.edu (S.SANJAY GOPAL)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Thiruppaavai Verses
Date: 15 Dec 1992 17:06 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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In article <9212150645.AA24682@cec1.wustl.edu>, sp2@cec1.wustl.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes...

>  Some Maargazhi jokes from a S.V.Sekhar drama ( Crazy thieves in
>Paalavaakkam )
>  [ S.V.Sekhar is the character Uppili, Maithili is his sister,
>   Ramunujam is his father ..]
> 
> Ramunujam : Endaa Uppili, Maargazhi maasamum adhuvumaa, kuLikkaama 
>             ippadi? .. thiruppaavai theriyumaadaa unakku?
> 
> Uppili : theriyaama enna,                 
>           `maargazhith thingaL
>            madi niRaiyap pongal'
> 
> Ramunujam : pongaL illadaa asaththu!
> 
> Uppili : illappaa , oru maamaa ippadith thaan paadeendu kanchaa
>          adichchuNdu vandhaar..
> 
> Rammunujam : kanchiraa adichchuNdu vandhaarnu sollu..
>------------------------
> 
>> Regards,
>> Aravind.
>> srin@cs.cornell.edu
> 
> - Maitrayi
>________________________________________________________________

Oops! I think "crazy...." had a cast of that guy whose
screen name is Madhu and not S V S.

also Maargazhi starts on Dec 15th and stretches all the way to
JAn 14. Typo in the original posting!

regards
sanjay



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Subject: Rochester Area help required, please!
From: Sankaran.Venkatesh@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 10:58:39 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Keywords: Rochester.

Hi,

Help needed from down under ! My friend (Mr Seshadrinathan) is arriving in
U.S (University of Rochester, Rochester, NY) to undertake a MBA programme
this autumn. He is leaving for U.S on 28th Dec 1992. Any help from students
in the University or near-by area for a couple of days hospitability is
highly appreciated. Please note that there is absolutely nobody that he is
familiar with (Except the Uni Officials ). So any help in this matter is
highly appreciated. Please reply via Email :-

	Sankaran.Venkatesh@bbs.actrix.gen.nz


Regards,
Venkatesh Sankaran



-- 
Venkatesh Sankaran
(04) 476-0226 [Home]
(04) 382-7392 [Work]
Wellington,New Zealand
From: manohar@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Fundamental Questions.
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:23:58 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <1992Dec18.191619.1908@msus1.msus.edu>, manohar@msus1.msus.edu writes:
> In article <BzGw2z.82q@ireq.hydro.qc.ca>, srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca writes:
>> Present Caste based reservation (CBR) in Tamil Nadu:
>> 
>> 1. Is backward caste synonymous to 'all except Brahmins'? One gets
>> that impression as opposition is almost uniquely from Brahmins.
> 
>  Governments in states like TN and Karnataka have been classifying
>  more and more castes as backward.Around 93% of all Hindus in thes states
>  have been classified as backward.So while a Reddy in AP might not
>  come under the backward caste list, the equivalent Gowda in Karnataka
>  and the eq. in TN would be considered backward.(This technique for
>  some reason hasn't been employed in the North, though Devi Lal
>  has always said that he'll support the Mandal Commission report
>  if Jats are also included among the backward castes.)
> 
> 	As for the opposition being uniquely from brahmins, one reason
>  could be that castes like Saiva Mudhaliyar or Karakharthar are
>  too
>  minority of forward castes are not as vocal as the brahmins.
> 
>> 3. What is the objection to reservation based on parent's education
>> and family wealth? The former is very easy to implement.
>> 
>  
> As far as family wealth is concerned,if that is to be a criterion, 
> then we will in effect be reserving seats for the rich, because they
> will find it the easiest to get low income certificates.
>                                                      
> Right now in TN all candidates whether FC or BC get an additional 5 
> marks (out of 250) for professional college admissions 
> if neither of their parents is a graduate degree      
>> 
>> K. Srinivasan  at Hydro Quebec   srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca
> 
> A.Rammanohar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: Question on Periyar's ancestory
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:41:15 GMT

In <1992Dec14.195145.11575@vela.acs.oakland.edu> janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand) writes:

>>there is this statement that is quite commonly attributed to Periyar. He is 
>>supposed to have said something like "if you see a snake and a brahmin on the
>>road, kill the brahmin first". Of course he didn't use those words - he talked
>>to that effect. 
>>
>	This was the first time I heard such a thing about Periyar. If 
>	he had really said that then I have no doubt in my mind that 
>	Periyar was a thevidiya paiyyan. As simple as that. His mom
>	was a whore.

>J Anand.


         How good a @@@@@ is the present ruler of TN whom some people
support but oppose periyaar. Periyaar was born in a respectable family
in Erode. Ask about your leaders parents.

kathiravan
From: gopals@astro.umd.edu (N. Gopalswamy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: IlakkaNam
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:03:27 GMT
Organization: U. of Maryland @ College Park, Astronomy

>
>>-Saleem
>  anparE!
>           thamizh sangamaa? illai thamizhch changamaa?
>
>Kathiravan.

thamizhch changam!

gopals

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: subraman@myria.cs.umn.edu (Satish Subramanian)
Subject: Re: TAMIL HEROES TOP 5/10.
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:09:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.213709.11853@sbcs.sunysb.edu> kthiruma@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu () writes:
>Let us have a discussion on the top 10 Films
>of our Tamil heroes.
>
>KAMALAHASAN :
>1.Nayagan
>2.Guna
>3.Moonram Pirai
>4.Devar Magan
>5.Salangai Oli
>6.Apoorva Sagodarargal
>7.Avargal
>8.16 Vayadinile
>9.Sathya
>10.Sigappu Rojakkal.

Chippikul Muthu	
Varumayin Niram Sivappu
Kalyanaraman?

>
>RAJINIKANTH:
>1.Moonru mudichu
>2.Thalapathy
>3.Avvargal
>4.Engeyo ketta Kural
>5.Mullum Malarum
>6.16 vayadinile
>7.Mannan
	
	If Mannan can find a place in the list then so can

	Mappilai
	Rajadhi Raja
	Raja Chinna Roja
	Panakkaran

	Rajni also gave some good performances in films like 

	Padikkadavan ( 'ura therinjekitten ullagom puringikittEn,
			kanmani en kanmanni')

	Nallavanukku Nallavan ( 'chittukku chella chittukku oru seragu
				 muLaithadhu...')

	
>8.Thillu Mullu
>9.Netrikkan
>10.6 irundu 60 varai.
>
>BHAGYARAJ :
>1.Mundanai mudichu
>2.Chinna Veedu
>3.Darling ....
>4.Inru poi Nalai vaa
>5.Vidiyum varai Kattiru
>6.Oru kai osai
>7.Idu namma Aalu
>8.Rasukutti
>9.Enga Sinna Raja
>10.Anda 7 Natkal

	What about Aarararo arariraro?
>.
>
>PRABHU :
>1.Chinna Thambi
>2.Agni nakshatram
>3.(the remake of one flew oer the cuckoos nest-where he plays
>a mad guy in an asylum)

	There was a good song in this movie - 'pOnmanguil singaramai 
						panpadudhe')

>4.Arengetra Velai
>5.A film with am
>amala as his secretary and reathi as his wife-uttamapurusan,I think.
	Yes it is Uttamapurusan.

6. Kozhi kuvudhu?

>
>KARTHIK:
>1.Agni
>2.Varusham 16
>3.Kizhakku asal
>4.Alaigal Oivadillai
>5.Mouna Ragam.
>
>Flames additions and deletions welcome.
>
>-- 
>FROM
>
>BALAJI THIRUMALAI KUMARA
>kthiruma@ic.sunysb.edu
>
>or thru' snailmail:
>I 1129A, Chapin Apartments
>700 E Loop Road
>S.U.N.Y. at StonyBrook
>NY 11790.
>
>or tinkle at :
>516-632-2419.

satish
From: kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: minnal varigaL - 42
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:31:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47392
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


 	"malargaLaip pOl thangai uRangukiRaaL !
  	aNNan vaazha vaippaan enRu amaidhi koNdaaL !
  	kalaindhidum kanavukaL avaL padaiththaaL !
  	aNNan kaRpanaith thErinil paRandhu senRaan !!"
		
	From "malargaLaip pOl..."

	Contributed by Kanmani

	Posted by Srikanth Meenakshisundaram.
--------------------------------------------------------
Contributions Welcome. Please send YOUR minnal varigaL to
kanth@cse.ogi.edu. Anecdotes or personal experiences that
directly relate to the minnal varigaL are also welcome.
----------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: chitoor@mercury.cis.udel.edu (Srikrishnan R. Chitoor)
Subject: Re: Thiruppaavai Verses
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:21:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.173558.16311@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> vaidhyan@cn.ecn.purdue.edu writes:
>The complete Crazy Mohan jokes on Thiruppaavai from "Crazy Theives
>in Palavakkam":
>
>Ramanujam	:  	Enda uppili margazhi masam kalailE Thiruppaavai
>				sonna puNNiyamaavathu kidaikkum 
>
>Uppili		:	Thiruppaavaiaa? ennappa athu?
>
>Ramanujam   :   Thiruppaavai theriyaathaa unakku? namba aandaaL
>				ezhuthina pattudaa
>
>Uppili      :   anthap paattu entha cinimavile varuthu?
>
>Ramanujam   :   cinimap pattilEdaa athu. maargazhi maasam muppathu
>				naaLum nee kovilukkup pOrayE, angE enna nadakkum?
>
>Uppili      :   aamampa, nee kooda solluvE, margazhi masam 
>				kovilukkup pOnal puNNiyam kidaikkumnu. puNNiyam
>				kidaikkumO illiyO kovilla nalla pongal kidaikkum.
>
>Ramanujam   :   pongalliyE iru! maargazhi maasam muppathu naaLum
>				kovilla pongal vangith thinnuttu, varushaththula
>				meethi irukkara naaLai anthap pongalai 
>				serikkirathil selavazhi! pongal kodukkarathukku
>				munnaal kovilla enna nadakkum?
>
>Uppili      :   pongal quevilE orE adithadi nadakkum.
>
>Ramanujam   :   iyO. Uppili...
>
>Uppili      :   ennappaa?
>
>Ramanujam   :   konjam pongal quevai vittu veLiyilE varrayaa?
>
>Uppili      :   sarippaa. aang... ippO NYapagam varuthuppaa,
>				pongal kodukkarathukku munnalE, ellaarum gumbalaa
>				bajanai paNNindu varuvaa. naduvulE oru maamaa
>				mattum thaniyaa gancha adichchiNdu varuvaar
>
>Ramanujam   :   gancha illEda athu, gancheeraa
>
>Uppili      :   nee ennai ippadi mattamaa pEsariyee, bajanailE
>				avaLLaam kooda "maargazhip pongal, madi niraintha
>				nannaalaam"nu thaanE paadiNdu pOnaa...
>
>Ramanujam   :   avaa padiNdu vanthathu "maargazhith thiNgaL mathi
>				niRaintha nannaaLaam". sari, ippo naan paadarEn
>				nee en koodap paadu, "maargazhith thingaL"
>
>Uppili      :   "maargazhith thingaL"
>
>Ramanujam   :   sabash. aduththathu enna?
>
>Uppili      :   "maargazhith sevvaai"
>
>Ramanujam   :   sani, sani!
>
>Uppili      :   ennappaa ithu, thingaLukku aduththu sevvaaithaan.
>				nee saninggariyE?
>
>Ramanujam   :   kashtagaalam. vaaththiyaar piLLai makkunggarathu
>				sariyaai irukku.
>
>Uppili      :   athukku naan ennappaa paNNamudiyum?
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If I am right it should be 

 Uppili      :   Yaaruppa, MGR pillaiya ?

Ofcourse, I might be wrong. I read it a long time back.

-Krishna.
From: fca00@chennai.ccc.amdahl.com (A. Francis Chandran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: "malar" paadalgal.
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:44:08 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <BzH2xw.109D@austin.ibm.com> speri%nfse.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com writes:
>
>In article <1gr49kINNbh6@menudo.uh.edu>, aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable) writes:
>> malar and its variances:
>> [1] malare, malare theriyathO  [movie: thEn nilavu]
>> [2] malarnthum malaraatha [movie: paasa malar]
>> [3] malarkalaip pOl thangai [movie: paasa malar]
>> [4] malarE, kurinji malarE [movie: doctor siva]
>> [5] poove, pooch chooda vaa [movie: poove pooch chooda vaa]
>> [6] pookkalaithaan parikkaatheenga [movie: ???]
>
>   Movie: Pookkalaip ParikkaatheerkaL
>
>> [7] poovil vandu koodum [movie: kaathal Oviyam]
>> [8] poove nee yaar cholli [movie: ???]
>> [9] poove, chempoove [movie:???]
>> [10] poovizhi vaasalil vanthu [movie: deepam]
>> Feel free to add more.
>
> [11] malargaLilE aaraadhanai [movie: 
> [12] aayiram malargalE malarungaL [movie: Niram Maaraatha PookaL]
> [13] malargalil aadum ilamai pudhumaiyE [movie: Kalyaana Raman]
> [14] poomazhai thoovi vasanthangaL vaazhththa [movie: Ninaiththathai
>                                                  Mudippavan]
> [15] senthoorappoovE senthoorappoovE [movie: 16 vayadhinilE]
> [16] roja malarE raja kumari [movie: ??]
> [17] poovannam pOla nenjam poopaalam paadum [movie: Azhiyaatha KolangaL]
> [18] poo vaiththa poovaikku pookaL sonthamO [movie: Mattukkaara Velan]
> [19] poo maalayil Or malligai, ingu naan thaan [movie: Ooty Varai Uravu]
> [20] poovarasam poo pooththaatchu, ponnukku [movie: KizhakE POgum Rayil]
> [21] sevvanthip poo mudichcha chinnakkaa [movie: 16 vayadhinilE]

 [22] aayiram thaamaria mottukkale [alaigal oivathillai]
 [23] mottu vitta mullakkodi, machan thotta majjakkili [???]
 [24] poo poo poo, poo pootha solai [puthu nellu puthu naathu]
 [25] oru kodiyil iru malargal [???]
 [26] ilanjolai poothatho [???]
 [27] athipoo, allipoo avaarampoo, nee oru jaathi poo [???]
 [28] poovile medai naan podava [???]
 [29] puthiya poovithu poothathu [thenrale ennai thodu???]
 [30] punsirippil, poo malara oru kavithai paadavaa [???]
 [31] poovum thenral kaatrum oodal kollalaama [???]
 [32] malligai en mannan mayangum ponnaana malarallava [???]
 [33] pani vizhum malar vanam [nizhalgal or nenjathai killathe???]


                                                       -francis.



> 
>- Peri.
>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: subra@gandhi.cc.nd.edu (Kumaraswamy Subramanian)
Subject: THALAPATHI song now available via Internet...
Reply-To: subra@gandhi.cc.nd.edu (Kumaraswamy Subramanian)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:06:16 GMT

Vannakkam,
     I am really thrilled and proud to say that I/we can listen to a Tamil
song(if you have full connectivity to Internet) sitting in front of my/your
Sun workstation(also available from NeXT). I don't know how many of you
are familiar with a software called Gopher, but if you happen to use Gopher
software from Sun(Xgopher,gopher)or NeXT, all you need to do is get into
Univ.of Notre Dame Gopher from the list of available Gopher Servers 
(under "other Gophers/North America/University of Notre Dame")    
Now click on "Non-Notre Dame Information Sources" followed by clicking on
"Multimedia" followed by clicking on "EthnicMusic" (phew!). You will see a file
called "Tamil.au". Now get ready to be blown away by the Enchanting music
of Illayaraaja/SPB by clicking on "Tamil.au". You will hear the full song
"Raakkamma" from the movie Thalapathi.  You will have to use "soundtool or
x_soundtool to control the volume, as there is no way to stop/control the
volume of sound at this time from the Gopher software.
You don't need any external speakers or fancy gadgets to listen to music. 
All you need is the software and few clicks!. Though I recorded the song
from a CD player, since the internal speaker of the workstation is not a 
great speaker, you may not get the CD quality. 
If you are not aware of Gopher, ask your system administrator or try
executing the command "gopher" or "xgopher". Sometimes your system may have
the software but your PATH variable may not be right, so its better to
ask your system administrator about the existence of the software.

Have fun......

Subri
-- 
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___________________________________________________________________________
From: bs@wucs1.wustl.edu (Bala SWAMINATHAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: Be a 'saappaaddu raamaan' and a Coward.....?
Date: 20 Dec 92 03:56:07 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO

In article <19379.2b330c78@ecs.umass.edu> vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>
>	Whenever food is served in a party or a gathering, nobody
>could beat, Mr X, a colleague of mine in reaching the table. With
>a smile, he used to say: "panthikku munthu, padaikkup pinthu."
>[be a 'saappaddu raaman' and a coward?]
>
>	Couple of  weeks back I decided to interpret  that saying
>for him.  I see a minor improvement in him now; He doesn't try to
>"justify" his act these days.  
>
>Vicky:
>UMass, Dec 19


No idea what you had explained to your friend. But I was once told
by my high school teacher that...

panthikku munthu =  your right had should go infront of you in the 'panthi'
padaikku pinthu  = pull the 'naan' of the 'vil' as far back ('pinthu')
		as possible,


S_Bala

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From: rsivaram@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Siva)
Subject: Re: CUT THIS CRAP
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:01:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.203350.25097@vela.acs.oakland.edu> asriniva@vela.acs.oakland.edu (PAAGAL) writes:
>hi netters
>
>I have been reading some real CRAP on Brahminism, Periyarism for the
>past 10 days, It has degenerated to such a level, That some people
>on net may even go to the extent of requesting the government to set
>up a a commission to find out who was born to Which WH***, Which W***
>is better. {Sorry I Had to use such strong Words,I have been patient
>enough reading this crap.}
>
>Maintain Some Modicum of Decency on the Net.
>
>
>Argue on issues in the right sense, Any Theory or philosophy directed
>against a particular community is bound to receive inflammatory responses.
>
>Periyar has said so many things about tamil literature, Talk about that,
>Dont' discuss things against a particular community, 
>
>Tomorrow some one will start on VANNIYARISM, and talk about social equality
>Projecting Ramdas.
>The next Some one will start on PILLAISM, MUDALIARISM, CHETTIARISM, THEVARISM
>And as much u want as there is no dearth of castes in tamilnadu.
>
>My Dear Friends who prompted me to write this, If u still go ahead and
>continue the crap please go ahead , We would soon see the Soc.Culture.Tamil
>group with the following SUBJECT LINES 
>
>Some examples
>
>Sub: Vadkalai Iyengar V Thenkalai Iyengar
>
>Sub:  Kurumbu  Goundar vs Vellala Goundar
>
>Sub: Kammuvar Naicker vs. {Saada} Naicker
>
>Sub: Sengundha Mudaliar vs {wild card} Mudaliar
>
>Sub: Vadama Iyer Vs Dosama Iyer
>
>Sub: Commati Chetis Vs { Other chettis}
>
>Sub: Thevar Vs Agamvudiar

With all the examples you have provided, I can very well conclude
that you belong to Pillaimar. When you are laughing at various
castes, you should also be able to laugh at your own caste.
Otherwise you are a COWARD

Edhilar Kutram Pol Tham kutram Kangirpin
Theedundo Mannum Vuirku

-Thirukkural
>
>
>Please continue this thread
>
>Bye
> 
>-- 
>_________________________________________________________________________
>athi			
>_________________________________________________________________________
>


--
From: baskar@cs.concordia.ca (Sundararajan Baskar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: fundamental question
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:56:30 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

In article <BzGw2z.82q@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (K.Srinivasan) writes:
>1. Is backward caste synonymous to 'all except Brahmins'? One gets
>that impression as opposition is almost uniquely from Brahmins.
>
>2. How are intercaste marriages treated under the "CBR"?
>(i) lower (preferred) of the two
>(ii) higher of the two
>(iii) father's caste
>3. What is the objection to reservation based on parent's education
>and family wealth? The former is very easy to implement.
>K. Srinivasan  at Hydro Quebec   srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca


1) No. Get an engineering form from Tamilnadu Government, U can find
  some 50 odd castes as forward, 200 odd as backward etc.

2) (iii)

3) What else : Votes. If any party tries to implement what u are proposing
  cannot come to power next time. MGR tried but succumbed to the opposition
  and finally raised the reservation quota to the maximum permissible.
  I do not know about other states , In TN reservations are considered
  as privilege rather than aid or concession.

With luv
S.Baskar
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From: sundaram@me.uta.edu (Ravi 'Kity Bum' Sundaram)
Subject: Re: Request for movie names
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:27:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.175353.9491@engage.pko.dec.com> madhusudanan@akocoa.enet.dec.com (MADHUSUDANAN) writes:


>   Can any of u tell me the following :

>   In which movie of MGR did this song "Vizhiye Kadhai Ezhudhu, Kanneeril Ezhudhadhe.." 


	The movie is "urimaik kural"
	I think it is sung by Jesudas.

	BTW, in the same movie there is another song with 
	VERY explicit/sexist lines

	"	poNNaa porandaa aabiLakittE,
		kazhuthE neetikaNum,        ...."

	It has lines like

	"thuNi pOttu maraiththaalum peNNE,
		paLichchendru theriyaadO iLa maangaay munnE"
		
	As if the song is not gross enough, there were many
	"local" modifications ;-) 

	Should this have gone into the virasa kavitahi thread?
	
	Bye

	Ravi Sundaram

	
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From: ssr@siberia.cypress.com (Bapcha/FPGA)
Subject: EVR.
Originator: ssr@reddog
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:26:41 GMT

EVRN was nothing but a loser.... loser loser..... do you hear me ?
Plus, he made it politically correct to reverse discriminate.  He did
Tamilnadu no good, was totally closed in his thinking, and basically
celebrated because he opposed Brahmins....

He is to Brahmins what Hitler was to Jews. Pretty much the same accusations
are made against the Brahmins - "they control the money"; "they control the
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