HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dannya@ESD.3Com.COM (Danny Alvendia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Homeward Bound
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:18:40 GMT
Organization: 3Com Corporation

In article <1992Aug19.220833.28117@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> maridai@ecs.comm.mot.com (Marida Ignacio) writes:
>
> 
>
>My sister and her husband have been here for ~22 years now.  
>My parents have been here for ~9 years now.  I have been here
>for ~4 years now.  During family gatherings, ako pirme ang 
>kontrabida when it comes to ipagtanggol and ka-igihan ng 
>kalagayan sa Pilipinas.  All of them (family) are pessimistic
>about the conditions of our economy, our traffic regulations,
>the corruption in our country, the weather, the eruption of
>Mt. Pinatubo, etc.  All of them complain about the langaw and 
>lamok (miski na alam nilang meron din dito) in the Philippines, 
>the terrible traffic conditions.  Ako kasi ang bunso at napakalaki
>ng agwat ko sa kanilang lahat, kaya minsan hindi upholded ang 
>mga views ko by the whole.  Since they have been used to the
>comforts here, they have this thinking they will not be able
>to tolerate all the discomforts there anymore.  Maybe it's their
>age.  Maybe, it's their length of stay here.  They have become 
>prejudiced in time.  Well, at this time, I do not think I'll 
>change my optimism about the Philippines.
>There is still hope and who cares if it is more difficult.
>I'll take the challenge again...anytime hopefully, soon.
>-Marida

 Marida, it's nice to know that there are more people who want to
 go home. Someday soon, I will also go back. Gusto ko tumanda sa
 atin, America is for the young. Nakikita ko dito ang mga matanda
 na nilalagay sa Home at madalas, kung sino-sino nalang ang nagaalaga.

 Maraming mabibili at makukuha dito pero parang may kulang. Sabagay
 hindi mo naman madadala ang mga ito pag namatay na tayo.  

 Nagugulat ako sa mga ibang Pinoy na nagsasabi na "pangit sa Pilipinas,
 ang dami ng langaw, sobra ang ipis, at napakainit". These things are
 not new, noon pa ganiyan ang Pilipinas. Akala mo hindi sila galing sa 
 atin.

 Besides, where else can you find Christmas carols playing in early
 November but in the Philippines. Masaya sa atin.

 /Danny
From: cadizht@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Horacio Cadiz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Re: Gov Allows Return of Marcos Body With Full Military Honors
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:46:24 GMT
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA

news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System) writes:

>	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- The body of Ferdinand Marcos will be
>flown Sept. 1 from Hawaii to his northern home province for burial with
>full military honors -- three years after the ousted dictator died in U.
>S. exile, a government spokesman said Wednesday.
>   [ stuff deleted ]
   
   Ang Pinoy nga naman, napakadaling makalimot.  Mga magnanakaw, berdugo,
at pusakal, sa halip na litisin, ay hindi lamang pinapatawad nang walang 
kabayaran ngunit pinaparangalan.  Kahit isang salita lamang, isang 
pagpapaumanhin sa lahat ng paghihirap na idinulot sa bayan, ay hindi 
hinahanap.  
    Anong kabalastugan ito?  Mga hangal lamang ang nagpaparangal sa isang 
huwad na bayani.  Mga Pilipino lamang ang nag-aalsa nang hindi pinapaslang
ang mga mandarambong na naluklukan sa kapangyarihan. Lansagin ang buong
angkan ng Marcos!  Ang dapat lamang nating tanggaping kabayaran ay ang
pagbabalik ng mga kayamanang ninakaw o ang bangkay ng mga ka-Marcosan.

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From: gustilo@pop-server.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Lea Salonga to Appear in Los Angeles, CA
Date: 14 Aug 92 03:24:58 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

She will be appearing at the Universal Amphitheathre on Oct. 2, 1992.
Sorry, this is all the details that I have.

source: ad in Channel 9 tape delayed broadcast 8/10/92.


Standard Disclaimer:
  I am not responsible for comments that I make after 3:00 AM or after five
cups of coffee, whichever comes first.
From: news@netnews.upenn.edu (USENET News System)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.filipino
Subject: Erap Arrests Majors Pring and Zarcal
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:43:11 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.filipino
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	MANILA, Philippines (UPI) -- The head of a police anti-kidnapping task
force and a former police officer were arrested Monday for alleged
involvement in the crime they were ordered to prevent.
	The country's chief crimebuster, Vice President Joseph Estrada,
arrested police Maj. Jose Pring and Maj. Timoteo Zarcal, a former police
investigator.
	Estrada invited the two suspects to his suburban San Juan home,
saying he wanted to confer with them on a spate of kidnappings. When
they arrived, he escorted them into a room filled with reporters and
arrested them.
	Estrada said both officers were implicated in kidnappings by a police
officer who had surrendered to him and confessed to having taken part in
five abductions since 1989. 
	``Maj. Pring is positively identified,'' he told reporters. ``We also
have evidence that Maj. Zarcal is informed whenever there is an
operation for a kidnapping.''
	He said the claims were made by police officer Nonito Arile, who was
apprehended last month for his involvement in kidnapping incidents. 
	Arile, who was present at the press conference, had escaped from
detention but later surrendered to Estrada. He said he offered
information leading to the arrest of Pring and Zarcal because he was
afraid the two would kill him.
	``We would contact him (Pring) once we had the victim,'' Arile told
reporters. ``He would monitor if the victim complained to the police. He
was involved in all the kidnappings and received 500,000 pesos ($20,000)
for each case.''
	Pring, who was earlier forced to go on leave after being accused of
involvement in kidnapping gangs, denied the charges.
	``This is not good,'' the head of the anti-kidnapping taskforce said.
``We arrested this guy and now hes pointing the finger at us. When you
arrest someone you must have solid evidence not mere conjecture.''
	Zarcal dismissed the claims as ``hearsay.'' He was earlier dismissed
from the force amid allegations of criminal behavior.
	Estrada's anti-crime commission has promised to eradicate kidnapping
syndicates, many of which allegedly involve police officers and active
soldiers.
	The chief of the Philippine National Police (PNP), Gen. Cesar
Nazareno, is expected to step down amid allegations he is involved with
the syndicates.
	Senators and Nazareno's deputy said Sunday President Fidel Ramos had
already dismissed the PNP chief but would allow him to resign in order
to make a more graceful exit.
	Ramos denied Monday he had fired Nazareno, although he declined to
say whether the police commander would remain in his post through the
end of the week.
	Ramos last week ordered a revamping of the 102,000-strong PNP in a
bid to clean up the corruption-riddled force.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: miro@me.utoronto.ca (Miro Kalovsky)
Subject: Re: Dve Otazky
Organization: UofT Mechanical Engineering
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:46:35 GMT

wagner@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:

>Mam dve otazky pro vas vse:

>1) Znal by nekdo jak dostat kazetove nahravky od Supraphonu?
>Hledam nahravky Chopina a Dvoraka od Ivana Moravce, ale take
>nahravky Janacka a Martinu.

>2) Existuje radiova stanice ktera vysila v Ceskem nebo Slovenskem 
>jazyku?


Odpoved 1): Kazda vetsi prodejna gramodesek by mela byt schopna
je objednat paklize je nema na sklade.
Odpoved 2): Radio Praha vysila denne vo vecernich hhodinach 3 nebo 4
programy vysilani v ceskem a slovenskem jazyce pro krajany v severni
Americe na pasmech 49, 41, 31 a 25 metru. Prozatim jsem mel nejlepsi
podminky pro prijem ve 22:30 EST na frekvenci 7345 kHz.

Mirek Kalovsky
University of Toronto

miro@me.utoronto.ca
From: wagner@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Dve Otazky
Date: 12 Aug 92 11:59:28 EDT

Mam dve otazky pro vas vse:

1) Znal by nekdo jak dostat kazetove nahravky od Supraphonu?
Hledam nahravky Chopina a Dvoraka od Ivana Moravce, ale take
nahravky Janacka a Martinu.

2) Existuje radiova stanice ktera vysila v Ceskem nebo Slovenskem 
jazyku?

Dekuju za vse odpovede,
					-Lukas
                                      wagner@mps.ohio-state.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: cgk26737@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (C G Kolar)
Subject: HELP: need to elope in prague
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:50:58 GMT


now nobody tell our parents about this. :)  my fiancee and i have
  decided to forgo the usual business surrounding marriage and
  elope next summer.  we have settled (laws permitting) on prague.
  i was wondering if any of the
  readers of the group could offer answers to the following
  questions:

1> what is necessary to undergo a civil service -- passports,
   birth certificates, fees, waiting periods, &c.

2> what does the local roman catholic church require for a
   wedding service.  both of us are RC and we would prefer to 
   have a church service.  is there a waiting period (at least
   4 weeks in the US), and what papers would we need -- baptismal
   certificates, &c.

we would appreciate any information that anyone has to share.  i 
  understand that some rule-bending may be necessary in such a case,
  but we are willing to do what we have to.  (my parents eloped in 
  brazil after working on it for 3 days -- bribing a judge and making
  a "donation" to a small local church in campinas.)

thanks in advance,

--chris

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From: tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Czech Restaurant in LA?
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:47:22 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Aug13.163511.9664@ttinews.tti.com> jackson@soldev.tti.com (Dick Jackson) writes:
>
>We visited my friends in Praha last year and had a wonderful time. For
>sentimental reasons it would be nice to eat in a Czech restaurant in
>the Los Angeles area, if there is one. If anyone knows of such a place



And, is there one in San Diego?  I seem to recall catching a
fleeting glimpse of a Czech restaurant around Big Bear when we were
visiting the mountains a number of months ago.

Anyone know of it (or others in San Diego)....?



Tom Marvan.
From: chaffee@reed.edu (Alex Chaffee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Re: Looking for lost family
Keywords: My last name is RASTOCNY
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:58:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug12.165800.6285
Distribution: soc
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <19204@drutx.ATT.COM> pmr@drutx.ATT.COM (RastocnyPM) writes:
>My grangfather, Frank Rastocny, migrated to the U.S. during WW1 and
>landed in Milwaukee, Wisconsin.  Here, he married Mary Skura [my
>step grandmother] several years later.  Little is known about the large
>family he left in the old country except that his siblings were scattered
>from some impending catastrophe.  I'm not even sure that the others
>survived.  Does anyone know folks with my same last name?  Any help would
>be appreciated.

I was recently in Czechoslovakia on vacation, and I tried to find
information about the family of my great-grandmother, who emigrated to the
U.S. around 1900. I went to her home town (Horazdovice) and asked at the
town archive, but they said all the relevant records had been moved to the
national archives in Plzen. The bottom line is, I got the address of the
archive, and I was told to send them a letter and a few dollars and they'd
look it up for me. I have no idea if it'll be successful or not, but if you
think it'll be useful, here's the address I got:
	  ,  ,
	Statni oblastni archiv
	     v
	Sedlackova 44
	    v v
	Plzen CSFR

(Although I should probably send mail soon before they change the name of
the country again.)

I should add that Plzen is the archive for part of West Bohemia. I have no
idea how big an area it covers.

-- 
Alex Chaffee
chaffee@reed.edu
Reed College, Portland OR 97202
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: jackson@soldev.tti.com (Dick Jackson)
Subject: Czech Restaurant in LA?
Organization: Transaction Technology, Inc.
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:35:11 GMT


We visited my friends in Praha last year and had a wonderful time. For
sentimental reasons it would be nice to eat in a Czech restaurant in
the Los Angeles area, if there is one. If anyone knows of such a place
I would greatly appreciate an email. Thanks.

Dick Jackson
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: Jonny Axelsson <jonnya@ifi.uio.no>
Subject: Archive?
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:49:08 GMT
Originator: jonnya@urd.ifi.uio.no

Are there anyone out there willing and able to make an archive of
soc.culture.czecho-slovak?

Jonny Axelsson
From: stepan@natinst.com (Stepan Riha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
Subject: Czech Restaurant in Toronto ? (was C.R. in LA?)
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:22:13 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX

This has nothing to do with the previous article, but does anybody in
Toronto know of a Czech restaurant run by a Jangl fmily?  I used to know
them when they lived in Switzerland and I know they went to Canada to
open a restaurant.  Are they still around?  And what's their food like?
BTW, I'm 95% certain they went to Toronto but it could have been some other
big city in SE Canada.

  Stepan

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: eva@puhep1.princeton.edu (Eva Zeisky)
Subject: Re: Langauge lessons in the Bay?
Organization: Physics Dept., Princeton University
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:35:40 GMT

In article <BszFt2.M9L@taligent.com>, Jeff Wishnie <jwishnie@taligent.com> writes:
|> Can anyone recommend a school/organization for Czech language lessons in
|> the Bay Area? Preferably in S.F.
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> 
|> Jeff Wishnie
|> jwishnie@taligent.com


The Berlitz School of Languages has a branch right in S.F. The address is
660 Market St, Tel (415) 986-6464.  I was talking to the director at their Princeton
branch just last week and they claim they'll teach you any language you
wish.  Beware: they are very expensive.  

Another possibility is the Inlingua School of Languages, which has over 200 locations
worldwide.  They also claim that they'll teach you any language you wish.
They are much less expensive than Berlitz, at least here in Princeton.  Their
Princeton number is (609) 921-2080, perhaps you could call them to wee whether
they have a branch in S.F; I tried to call a couple of times but their number was
busy.   

Can anyone comment on  the quality of instruction at these schools? 

(Do any of the language departments at the U. of California schools teach
Slavic languages? You might want to check into that possibility also) 

Good luck!

Eva

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Dept. of Physics          
Princeton University      
Princeton, N.J. 08544     
                          
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: Jeff Wishnie <jwishnie@taligent.com>
Subject: Langauge lessons in the Bay?
X-Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:41:50 GMT
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d3
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:43:49 GMT

Can anyone recommend a school/organization for Czech language lessons in
the Bay Area? Preferably in S.F.

Thanks,

Jeff Wishnie
jwishnie@taligent.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: sar@sequent.com (Steve Rudinsky)
Subject: Slovak language audio tapes wanted
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 21:43:45 GMT

I am interested in keeping up with my Slovak.  Is anyone aware of
Slovak language audio tapes available?  Do any of the audio tape
language companies (Berlitz?) have Slovak versions?

I was a fluent speaker when I lived there in '68-'70 and in '77, but
since I have not been back since '89, I am very rusty.  What do other
people do to keep up their Slovak when they don't live near anyone who
speaks the language?  Any and all suggestions appreciated.

Steve Rudinsky
sar@sequent.com
From: otruba@mitre.org (Steve Otruba)
Subject: Re: Czech Restaurant in LA?
Organization: What me organized
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:27:55 GMT

In article <36836@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.163511.9664@ttinews.tti.com> jackson@soldev.tti.com (
Dick Jackson) writes:>>
>>We visited my friends in Praha last year and had a wonderful time. For
>>sentimental reasons it would be nice to eat in a Czech restaurant in
>>the Los Angeles area, if there is one. If anyone knows of such a place
>
>
>And, is there one in San Diego?  I seem to recall catching a
>fleeting glimpse of a Czech restaurant around Big Bear when we were
>visiting the mountains a number of months ago.
>
Can't help with San Diego and unfortunately the news on LA isn't good either
LA formerly had 2 good Czechoslovak restaurants...the Little Prague
and Matuzeks...both have closed unfortunately...the closest I can
recommend is an excellant Hungarian restaurant in the Valley.  The name
is Hortobagy at 11138 Ventura Blvd in Studio City.  Excellant food
and Pilsner Urquell...

Other than that there are a number of Czechoslovak places up in San 
Francisco...

Enjoy...SteveO
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.czecho-slovak
From: morphy@cco.caltech.edu (Jones Maxime Murphy)
Subject: Will this group split in 2 parts?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 04:16:11 GMT

Just curious, since I was just reading that czechoslovakia is splitting.
Jones
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From: raman@cs.utexas.edu (Raman Rajagopalan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: EVR - Part II (Atheism)
Date: 16 Aug 1992 16:05:21 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: bathtub.cs.utexas.edu

In article <Bt37rv.6zp@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> mvishnu@morse.uwaterloo.ca (m vishnu) writes:
>In article <16AUG199209302886@ctrvx2.vanderbilt.edu> shivakl@ctrvx2.vanderbilt.edu (LAKSHMANAN SHIVAKUMAR) writes:

Discussion about EVR omitted.

Meenan Vishnu Writes:

>
>No he does not.  He wants to eliminate two virii (casteism and fatalism)
>in the psyche of the Indian people that is implanted by the
>varna-ashrama dharma. 
>
>The history has witnessed the immense damage these virii has caused to Indians
>in general.  These viri are only beneficial to a small proportion of India's
>population, the descendends of Vedic ritual performers commonly called the
>Bramins. These Vedic rituals involves the slaughter of cows, horses and
>even human beings (purusha-medha yagas) in the thousands.
>
>>

>Meenan Vishnu

Mr. Vishnu,

This style of writing seems to suggest that animal and human sacrifices
are a bad idea, and that even in the present day, vedic rituals involve
such sacrifices.  Please take note that in the present day, vedic homas
involve sacrificing only such things as ghee.  Perhaps wasteful in terms
of resources spent, but no blood is involved.

Now, would you care to enlighten the net about which groups are actively
involved in animal sacrifice in this day and age?  Such as the groups
which believe in sacrificing chickens at the samayapuram mariyamman
temple, or the groups which celebrate holidays during the year where 
the highlight is the butchering of hundreds of thousands of animals?

I believe that once you examine the facts, you will find that it is not
the brahmin community which is guilty of cruelty to animals, but perhaps
the very groups you tend to support in your articles.

Please stop the sensationalism and stick to facts, please.

- raman rajagopalan
From: surendra@endeavour.rutgers.edu (Arun Surendran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: ADDENDUM : A puzzle
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:44:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: endeavou.Aug.19.15.44.48.1992.2599
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


			ADDENDUM
			^^^^^^^^


	We have had raging debates over the 'truth' and 'what is right'
	and who was 'correct'. Here is something to ponder about :

	A righteous man who believes in 'truth' and 'non-violence' was
	walking down a road which, at some point, split into a fork.
	Just as he was approaching the fork, a cow ran past him into
	one of the road formed by the fork and quickly disappeared
	around the curve. A minute later a man with a big butcher's knife
	(apparently the butcher) came running .. He stopped this man (our
	hero) and asked him 'Which road did the cow take?'. 

	Here is the dilemma : If the man points to the right path, he
	would be a party to killing an animal, hence would have gone
	against 'non violence'. But if he does not give the right path,
	he would by lying (violating truth). What would he do?

	What would YOU do?
		   
	AC Suren

	PS : Just trying to illustarate that 'right' and 'wrong' are	
	never absolute. Rama and Krishna, Jesus, Buddha, Kanchi Aacharya
	Sai Baba ...... everybody is subjected to action and its duality
	thereof .... The only person who does nothing wrong is the person
	who does nothing ...
From: brao@pollux.usc.edu (Bapa Rao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Re: EVR - Part II (Atheism); also, caste and the Tamils
Date: 18 Aug 1992 14:02:53 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu

Meenan Vishnu says:


|>Krishna never refutes Arjuna and say that caste system that Arjuna 
|>is referring to is false.  Instead Krishna completely ignores
|>Arjuna's concern (that corrupted women-->intermixture of caste-->hell)
|>and later he says he is indeed the one who created the four varnas.

|>Therefore in the absence of any redefinition of varna, one is led to
|>the conclusion that Krishna is advocating the caste system that 
|>Arjuna was talking about which is no doubt based on one's birth.

Logically, the right thing to conclude from these premises 
would be that one cannot draw any conclusion about Krishna's 
views of the caste system as defined by Arjuna. 

However, it is possible to draw a stronger conclusion logically, 
namely that Krishna was actively opposed to Arjuna's version of
the caste system and worked for its destruction, by engineering
miscagenation and "racial pollution" (Arjuna's fears), since:

 * Arjuna fears m & p would be a consequence of the war
 * Krishna never refutes Arjuna's views in this (that is,
   he doesn't say that m & p will not follow from war) 
 * Krishna exhorts Arjuna (successfully) to wage war.

In fact, post-war events of the Mahabharata (e.g., the kidnapping of the 
Yadava womenfolk by bandits) fully bear out Arjuna's fears in this 
regard.

So, one should really conclude that Krishna was working all along to
ensure the destruction of the by-birth caste system so beloved of
Arjuna. Subtle are the ways of the Lord indeed! :-)


K.V. Bapa Rao

                                                                               
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