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Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Ban Certain Bands from this Pub...
From: Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:54:29 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <13NOV199210191892@rosie.uh.edu> math1rb@rosie.uh.edu (92F07486) writes:
>Over the past few days there have been debates on the validity of listening
>to "real" world (secular) music vs. christian music. Some have said
>there should be quotas or ratios to how much christian music we must
>listen to compared to secular music. Well quotas and ratios are silly,
>that's like saying a little swearing, or using the Lord's Name in vain is
>o.k., or that a little pornography is o.k.. Like someone said on here
>to be truly christian one must immerse themselves in christianity, so
>therefore we should all choose to avoid secular music all together.
>  In that case I propose the banning of the following bands on here (after
>all you'll never hear them on the local christian stations).
>Below is a list with some chrages brought against them....note that these
>bands "confess" to not playing "christian music".
>      1) Galactic Cowboys - not once to they mention Jesus or God in their
>			 songs, as a matter of fact, their lyrics have such
>		        "worlfly" topics as cult killings in Mexico; sapce
>			travel; the moon; oil spills; working in a meat
>			packing plant; and high school...

I disagree with you strongly.  "Sea of Tranquility" has the line, "The
magic of the Creator's hand", and "Speak To Me", the 7-minute ballad, has
numerous references to someone yearning to hear the voice of God at 3 in
the morning, "The Voice of God I hear"...

>
>      2) Extreme - well for one thing the sure do swear alot; the musical
>		style is definately self indulgent (guitar-wise); definately
>		rebellious lyrics (which was concluded on here as being bad);
>		lyrics about sex; being president; dancing; sex; politics; sex;
>			etc...
>

Extreme's earlier albums were of a more worldly nature and this was
admitted by both Gary Cherone in Heaven's Metal (I believe #19) and by
Nuno Bettencourt in the new Guitar Player Magazine.. they admit they are
not a Christian band (i.e. ministry oriented at the most), however, Nuno
and Gary both admit that the band has each a personal relationship with
Christ and are attempting to illustrate that through their lyrics.  This
is especially obvious in "Three Sides To Every Story", the new Extreme
album, where a great part of the album is thematic, referring to "Yours",
i.e., the popular beliefs of the world, "Mine", the personal reflections
of Extreme in light of the world's beliefs, and "The Truth", which speaks
for itself...


>     3) King's X - their crimes include a public self-profeesion of not
>                   playing "christian music"; and lyrics speaking out
>		   against various groups of christians; lyrics containing
>		  such topics as being in another country; lawsuits; astronomy;
>		  lunatics;        		
>	       	not to mention their videos conataining topics like
> 		   dreams, oil spills, beaches, schools, a city,
>
>

What's wrong with speaking about issues? Was Jesus out of touch when he
walked the earth? I don't think so! Most of his parables concerned the
various social castes of the times (slaves, servants, masters, shepherds,
etc.) and their problems and money matters.. not much unlike today if He
were to walk the earth today as he did 2000 years ago.. King's X brings up
important issues in today's society, but then again, Tournqiuet brings up
animal abuse ("Ark of Suffering"), Rez brings up racism ("Apartheid") as
does Barren Cross, ("Bigotry Man").. Believer brings up the environment in
"Non Point" as does Tourniquet in "Stereotaxic Atrocities".. and
Mortification and Betrayal bring up the horrors of Satanism in many of
their songs.. the Bible itself is riddled with references to everything
from health to sexual issues to racism to occultism.. the Word itself is
totally filled with issues as well..



>I guess I've been wrong the whole time, and probably because as many believe,
>I'm not "Christian" I'm Catholic. So lets go all the way and make this board
>purely "Christian" music.
>
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>**   David C. Meyers          **                                      **
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By your statement we can't allow any Christian band to be on here since
many of them do not ALWAYS mention God.. that would mean you would ban
nearly all progressive and folk bands, Amy Grant, 75% of all metal bands,
and the books of Esther and Song of Solomon...

Just a thought.

Phil

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