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From: brian0@bcarh13f.bnr.ca (Brian Chick)
Subject: Re: Island of Santorini, Greece.
Reply-To: brian0@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 12:52:39 GMT

I visited Santorini about four years ago with a tour group, and found it
one of the most beautiful islands aside from Corfu. For places to stay I
think the general rule will be that staying in Thira will be more expensive
because of the location and view, while we stayed on the beach near the
airport at lower cost.

When we were there we rented scooters, and I would recommend this, although
it is not for the faint of heart or first time scooter driver. The roads on
the island are narrow and windy and the local drivers are maniacs (from a 
tourist point of view), especially the taxi drivers. The drive from Thira
to Ia (Oia?) is exceptionally lovely, as the road runs along the ridge of
the cliffs overlooking the old caldera and new volcano for most of the
ride. I would highly recommend this.

Another point of interest to remember is to ride/walk up to the ruins on
the top of the mountain on the island. The ruins are quite interesting and
the view is spectacular from the top. You can look over most of the island
and get some great pictures. The only thing to beware of is riding a scooter
up to the top because of the very bumpy cobblestone road that leads to the
top.

Also, if you don't stay in Thira, you should be sure to go into the town at
least once to watch the sunset. When we were there we went to a place called
The Volcano, a restaurant what overlooks the new volcano. This was a great
place to watch the sunset, and offered great photo opportunities.

Have Fun!

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From: acohen@cs.ucsd.edu (Ariel Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Loud irritating ... tourists   ENOUGH!
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:22:02 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego


   Reading the "Loud irritating ... tourists" thread is a real education.
So far I've learned the following facts about tourists from different 
countries:

Aussies are broke
Canucks are frozen yogurt
Chinks  are constipated
Frogs   are snooty
Hunkies are goofy
Japs    are loaded
Krauts  are oafish
Limeys  are hotheads
Paddies are sots
Polacks are smelly
Sabras  are rude 
Spics   are sly
Wops    are cantankerous
Yanks   are boorish

Although it's an equal-opportunity thread, I think we've all had 
enough of it!

-- Ariel
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:52:58 GMT

In article <kyfn#=r.ekman@netcom.com> ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear) writes:
>
>I can't imagine it doing much good, since I suspect that most Americans
>wouldn't recognize the Swedish flag when they see it.

Yellow cross on a light blue background, right?
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Senegal
Date: 28 Aug 1992 09:19:25 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY - Senegal
============================================================
Senegal - Warning
 August 27, 1992

The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to avoid 
non-essential travel to the Casamance area of southern Senegal.

Separatists in southern Senegal (the Ziguinchor region of western 
Casamance, particularly the Bignona area) have again become active.  
Reports of random roadblocks and incidents of violence have caused 
the government of Senegal to increase the number of security 
personnel in the area.  The violence has not been directed at 
Americans; however, the Department of State advises all U.S. 
citizens to avoid non-essential travel to this area until the 
situation stabilizes.

All U.S. citizens traveling to Senegal are urged to contact the 
U.S. Embassy in Dakar upon arrival to register their presence and to 
obtain current information.  The U.S. Embassy is located on Avenue 
Jean XXIII, telephone number 23-42-96.

 No. 92-161

This travel advisory warns U.S. citizens to avoid travel in the 
southern part of Senegal.
From: fishkin@aludra.usc.edu (Stephanie Fishkin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: HoJo Dispute
Date: 27 Aug 1992 10:47:06 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu
Summary: Thanks for your replies!

Thanks to all of you who offered suggestions as to how to clear up a disputed
charge by HoJo.  After some calling around and my insistance that I DID
indeed cancel the reservation even though they DID NOT give me a cancellation
number, the hotel reluctantly gave me my refund.  I also offered to write a
letter to their customer service dept., as the woman with whom I spoke at
the hotel indicated that I was not the first person with this problem (e.g,
HoJo not giving cancellation numbers out).

The moral of the story is:  Always get a cancellation number or the name
of the person who cancels your reservation (as well as the date and time of
your call).

Stephanie in SoCal
From: kim@wcieng.UUCP (Kim Moran)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Asheville, NC info wanted
Keywords: Asheville
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:43:33 GMT
Organization: wci

Hi netters,

My husband and I are planning a 3-day weekend in Asheville, NC
Sept. 11 - 14.  We plan to spend a day touring the Biltmore Estate and
some time wondering around the town proper.  We have reservations at
the Albermarle Inn for Friday and Saturday nights.  Is this walking 
distance from downtown?  What other sites in the city should we NOT miss?  
Can anyone recommend a really nice restaurant for dinner Saturday night?
We are celebrating our 1st anniversary and would like to go to dinner
some place romantic.  We like Italian (fish entrees) or would be interested
in trying the "local" cuisine'. 

Also, we are planning to travel outside the city for a day, sort of a 
"get lost in the mountains" trip.  We are looking for a Bed & Breakfast
type establishment, in the mountains, for Sunday night.  Any suggestions?

One more question!  Is there anywhere to rappel and/or rock climb 
around Asheville?

Any and all info will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Kim
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Cheap freightor travel?
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:14:31 GMT


I remember seeing an ad in a magazine ages ago that was about a newsletter on
cheap freightor travel.  Does anyone have any pointers on what this was, or
how I can find out more information regarding freightor travel?
-- 
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Pete Ashdown    pashdown@slack.sim.es.com    ...uunet!slack.sim.es.com!pashdown
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From: smezias@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive expatriate American
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:42:50 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1992Sep3.001323.19527@athena.mit.edu>
raustein@athena.mit.edu (Yngve Koehler Raustein) writes some mistaken
statement about American universities:

>I don't think Mr. Margulis intended to say anything about American 
>universities.  The best American universities are probably the best 
>universities in the world, thanks to private financing which saves them
>from government neglect.  (As opposed to the primary schools.)

University of Michigan, University of Texas at Austin, UCLA,
UC-Berkeley, University of Wisconsin - Madison, etc. were all public
schools last time I checked and all are excellent.  The cases of the
UC schools, however, does demonstrate their vulnerabilityto government
neglect.  

SJM
From: spanga@yocomputo (Span Grad Asst)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Reg. India, Nepal, Kashmir Travel Suggestions
Date: 3 Sep 1992 23:02:31 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Institute of Political Correctness
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: yocomputo.berkeley.edu

This is in response to the recent query from Australia on India
travel tips - places to see, etc.

We were recently in India in February.  If you're short of time
you might get the Indian Airlines Airpass for $400 which
entitles you to unlimited flight privileges for 3 weeks.  Keep
in mind that India is huge in terms of distances so if time is
limited and $ not, this is recommendable.

Calcutta: Definitely, the most crowded of all major Indian
cities. What impressed me the most was the fact that a city of
>10 million had no traffic lights or signals.  Still, plenty of
culture to see - Jain Temple, Victoria Memorial are worth
seeing.  For souvenirs, the New Market is filled with souvenir
shops, tailors, etc.  Beware of the folks who stand outside with
trays ready to carry your purchases.  There is an Indian Museum
of Natural History that is worthwhile.  Calcutta is famous for
plenty of cultural activities - Bengali dance troupes, etc.
There's also a new underground which is surprising clean and
inexpensive at about 2 rupees = $US .06.

Jaipur: This is known as the Pink City with buildings all
required to have this color.  There is an impressive jewelry
market here - worth buying semi-precious jewels - amber,
turqoise, etc.  We were accosted on the street and led back to a
maze of rooms where merchants buy and sell them.  About 45
rupees for one strand of semi-precious stones.  Also worth
seeing is Amber Palace about 20 km. outside Jaipur.  This is a
fort set on the Hill built in the 1500s by one of the Moghul
rulers.  Monkeys room the palace as well as elephants (10 rupees
for a ride around the courtyard).  Views are quite spectacular
from the top.  Rumbaugh Palace which is an expensive hotel built
in a converted palace is worth taking a look at.

Udaipur: This is a city built between two lakes.  It actually
resembles  Mediterranean type city with windy, narrow streets
and lots of small shops.  The two lakes by Udaipur have two
small islands which are quite picturesque.  A ferry will take
you to these islands. 

Hotels require foreigners to pay in hard currency (not rupees).
My wife being Indian, we were able to get away paying in rupees.
However, otherwise you have to show that your money is exchanged
through official channels.  Bank rates were as of February , 
25 rupees to $US 1, black market 31 rupees to $US. You cannot
change your rupees back to foreign currency without official
receipts.

Let me know if you more specific questions.

Dan Landis  spanga@athena.berkeley.edu  _____sig.alert_____
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: vijay@jessica.stanford.edu (vijay mehrotra)
Subject: Re: SF - Pacific Grill?
Organization: Academic Information Resources
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 22:35:20 GMT

In article <BtK1JA.2tq@solbourne.com> verna@solbourne.com (Verna Kalinski) writes:
>Ok it's been 10 years.... is the Pacific Grill (out in the avenues) still in
>existence and is it any good?
>tks.verna.


Do you mean the Pacific Cafe, which is a great seafood restaurant with
wonderful ambiance and wine while you wait?  If so, it is still there,
and the locals tell me it's better than ever.  

Vijay
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Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Stansted or Gatwick
Followup-To: rec.travel.air
Keywords: london traveler
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:30:30 GMT

follow-ups to rec.travel.air, please ...

charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) wrote: 
->In article <191@irsaims.UUCP> dennis@irsaims.UUCP (Dennis Hank) writes:
->>
->>	My wife and I will be travelling to London (first time) in October
->>	and had planned on using frequent flier mileage to purchase our
->>	tickets.  Unfortunately, Amer. Airlines will only allow you to use
->>	those miles if you fly into Stansted.  
->
->Really?  Hmm.  I can almost believe they'd do this to beef up traffic
->on the new Stansted route.

this actually sounds like a not-bad idea ...

i think that dennis has confused the situation a bit ... it sounds
more like they only had award travel to stansted available on the
dates he wanted to travel.  heathrow is popular (why?  i dunno) and
probably books up fast.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: williaml@cs.concordia.ca (LEE william)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: The naming of the transit system in the Bay Area.
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:21:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

I recently visited the Bay Area in California and one thing that I haven't 
been able to figure out is why do people over there call their transit system 
the BART.  Was it named after a character such as Bart Simpsons or does 
it stand for something else?  In Montreal, we call our underground subway 
the METRO which is an actual French word for subway but we use it in the
English language as well.  And in London, England, if I am correct, the people 
over there call their subway the TUBE.  Oh well, if anyone has an answer to
my earlier question please reply.....Thanks!
                                                William 

williaml@cs.concordia.ca
Montreal, Canada 
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.food.restaurants
From: julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: For visitors to Moscow - offer
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:14:54 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

In article <1992Aug28.194135.2500@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> nev@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (nancy.e.ellard-vass) writes:
>In article <ADg0Cdgem6@smena.russia.msk.su>,  SV@smena.russia.msk.su (S.V.Vasiliev) writes:
>> Hello, netters,
>> 
>> If you are going to visit Moscow and to accommodate and spend your time
>> quaranteed cheap and interesting - our information is for you.
>> 
>> The hotel 'Russia' is one the central hotels in Moscow. We propose you the
>> 2-rooms appartment at the 6 floor. Windows at Red Square and Kremlin: the
>> better view you could ever imagine!
>> 
>> It is our constant appartment but during summer it will be empty and you can
>> use it. That's why it will cost $70 cash only instead of $150 per day common
>> price (this price - till September). That's is very suitable for couples.
>
>Hey! isn't this the 10th time you have posted this? Posting once or twice
>is clearly enough. Also, how kind of you to charge only $70 per night 
>cash (I assume you want those US $$$) when the average weekly or monthly Russian salary is less than that.
>
Yes, but if you go to a large hotel you'll get charged >$150 a night.
I've seen some go as high as $250.  Where does all that money go?  Who knows.

>Maybe for $5 US a day I would think about it, otherwise, post your message
>about 10 times somewhere else!!

I kinda enjoy these adds.

Julie
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: twilson@alfred.carleton.ca (Tom Wilson)
Subject: Re: Sights in South Australia
Keywords: Adelaide Australia travel
Organization: Carleton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:46:07 GMT

In <p2nl6f8@fido.asd.sgi.com> leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones) writes:

>In article <4366@equinox.unr.edu> demay@pyramid.unr.edu (Mark DeMay) writes:
>>Howdy,
>>
>>	
>>	1. Is Quantis a good airline ?

>That's "Qantas" - and as Dustin Hoffman points out in "Rain Man", "Qantas has
>never had an accident.  Never."  N.B. They edited that part out of the airline
>version of the film.

>Regards, Lee

I flew QANTAS to Oz and back last month and was VERY impressed by
service, punctuality, demeanour, and overall professionalism. I was
also told ( at the bar, so take it with a grain of salt) that the
Rainman info aboiut them never having had a crash is untrue; whatS
true is that they have never lost a passenger.

Can anyone verify this?

Tom
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From: robinson@odie.ee.wits.ac.za (Michael Robinson)
Subject: Re: I want to go to Europe
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Novell Users).
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:23:50 GMT

In article <27AUG199210485466@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> afruben@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (RUBEN DELROSARIO) writes:


>Hi folks!!

>  My wife and me are thinking about going to Europe sometime in 1993 (
>possible Summer).  We are thinking of a travel with back-packs, jeans, 
>shirts.  Maybe arriving in Spain and start traveling from there (we do not 
>have kids)  We are thinking of being between three and four weeks.  
>What are your recommendations?  Airline, where to go in Spain, France, etc.
>, where to stay, motels, bed and breakfast, and transportation. (rent a car
>, train, etc.)  I need all the info you can give.  Please, if possible 
>reply by E-mail I don't have too much time to read the net. (You can reply 
>in Spanish or English

>Thank you in advance (Muchas Gracias) !!! 

How to travel!!!

Step 1: Scrape some money together and buy yourself a copy of "Let's Go - 
Europe"."Europe on $45 a day" is good if you only intend to visit the major 
cities.

Step 2: Get yourself a travel agent.

Step 3: Quit asking silly questions before going to Europe, they are just 
waiting for a sucker like you.

Cheers,
Michael
From: kinch@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kinch Malapitan)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:27:15 GMT
Subject: Re: What to do and see in Hong Kong.
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
Newsgroups: rec.travel

There are numerous shops on Nathan Road (aka "The Golden Mile") in Kowloon and
it's more inexpensive than the shops in Causeway Bay... There are so many small
shops there you can spend all day just walking and looking (and maybe buying)...Of course, there are also the designer shops and malls which are actually reallynice places to go to as well... There is a night market by Nathan Road and it's
open (I think) until 1am or 2am... You can't miss this one since everyone heads
to that direction every night... They close blocks and blocks of streets so the
vendors can set up shop... In terms of food, I personally like seafood and they
have plenty of them there - however, the water there is dirty and I didn't want
to take a chance on getting sick... If you're more daring then make sure you 
take some medicine (like Immodium - this is stronger than PeptoBismol) just in
case you get sick... Have fun !!!

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From: odell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bernard O'Dell)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Pacific Heights, Calif.-Good & Bad?
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:18:12 GMT
Expires: 15 Sep 92 04:00:00 GMT
Reply-To: odell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Bernard O'Dell)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

What's good & bad about living in Pacific Heights, Calif??

Apartment renting? Taxes? Home purchase/prices? Crime?
Best places to eat? Best part of town to start out renting
an apartment, etc.?  Any other info would also be appreciated.
From: cubbie@garnet.berkeley.edu (                               )
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Parking in/near Venice
Date: 2 Sep 1992 16:32:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

I have a question about driving to Venice. Is it better to drive all the way
to the Roma Pazza in Venice or drive to Padova and take the train to Venice?
How much is the parking per day in the two places? How much does the train 
cost and how often does it run?          
Thanks, S.K.


Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: proto@mtl.mit.edu (Proto)
Subject: Re: Korean Airlines (was: Cheap airfares to Asia)
Reply-To: proto@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:36:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.185705.28975@aero.org> schulenb@Aero.org (David  
Schulenburg) writes:
> In article <1992Aug26.152807.5690@bnr.ca>,  
therese@crchh588.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Therese McCarthy) writes:
> |> 
> |> Has anyone ever flew Korean Airlines?  I agree that their prices are  
much
> |> cheaper than other airlines, but my travel agent discouraged me from  
using
> |> them because she said they were like 'cattle cars'.  I don't want to  
spend
> |> 12+ hours flying uncomfortably....if anyone can confirm or deny this  
I would
> |> appreciate it!
> |> 
> |> Thanks,
> |> Therese McCarthy (therese@bnr.ca)
> 


Hi,

I had the same question when I flew to Japan last year on Korean.  I had  
basically no complaints, except that the phone personnel on their 800  
number were rude when I tried to reconfirm my travel agent's reservations,  
as well as find out the location of the hotel in LA they were to put me up  
in (included in the flight from Boston to Narita).  Otherwise, food,  
service, etc., was fine, and flights were all on time.  I would fly them  
again if I got such a bargain fare ($860 r.t.).

Arvind
From: Ron_Mackenzie@mindlink.bc.ca (Ron Mackenzie)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: What to do and see in Hong Kong.
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:49:34 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Get a ferry near the Star Ferry on Hong Kong side and go off to one of the
islands to the south of Hong Kong.  There is one, Lamma I think, that has no
cars or trucks on it.  It has several seafood eating places near the ferry
landing.  There is a paved trail across the middle of the island, with a very
nice British type hotel at the head of a bay midway.  The two hour(?) walk will
take you to another ferry on the far side, and back to Hong Kong for a very low
price.
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From: sweeney@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Peggy Sweeney)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.bicycles
Subject: Any info on biking in Denmark?
Keywords: help for my sister
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:50:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel


Could anyone answer these questions from my sister, whose plaintive e-mail
message to me appears below?

Posting is fine. E-mail to me is fine. Or e-mail to schaffer@cua.bitnet
would be super! She's leaving in a week.

(Please don't send her flames about looking things up in guidebooks. She's
already done that. She's particularly interested in details from anyone
who's done a bike trip through Denmark.)


Could you pamper me?  Since I know nothing about NEWS and don't at the moment
particularly want to learn, could you obtain for me any random info on where 
to stay, eat, play in Denmark ?  We'll be in Copenhagen, then bike/train to 
Funen, I think - it's the middle island of the 3 - Copenhagen's on the one 
to the right - er-uh east.

Forever gratefully yours,

Carol