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From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: How to use PC cases for Mac HD's.
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:24:44 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France


Greetings.
I've posted an article wondering about the possiblity to use PC cases instead
of cases sold with the drives. While i was cleaning my account, i found an old
article who handeled this issue. I'm reposting it.
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From: tom@dtint.uucp (Thomas R. Kimpton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Hard drive case market stinks!!
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:42:44 GMT
Organization: Digital Technology, International

In article <patb.718420382@mcl> patb@mcl.ucsb.edu (Pat Breitenbach) writes:
>
>I've been looking for a reasonably priced external hard drive case
[deleted]
>Any answers? Better yet, can anyone suggest a more reasonably priced
>source? Thanks a million.
>
>Pat Breitenbach		patb@mcl.ucsb.edu

Pat:
	What I did was buy a PC tower case.  Call around to PC repair/
parts dealers for a good price.  I got a case with 3 half height
5-1/4" form factor slots, 2 half height 3-1/2" form factor slots,
and a 230 Watt power supply, for $100.  Because I wasn't putting a
mother board and slots in the case I was able to put 2 full height
5-1/4" hard drives in the bottom of the case.  In a couple months,
and after I can find an internal SCSI CD-ROM drive, I'm going to
put a CD-ROM in the top slot.  I went to a local cable builder
and got a 50 wire flat cable constructed with the 50-pin SCSI
headers and a 50-pin Centronics on one end.  The Centronics
connector "hangs" out the back, and I daisy chain all the drives
making sure the terminators have been removed from all but the
last drive.  If you buy internal drives, tell them you want them
without the drive hardware, you'll save about $20.  I suppose
I could have put Centronics connectors at both ends, so I
could daisy chain other drives, and use external terminators
but... this was the way I did it.  In fact that might be better
if you are going to connect to an FX as it requires a different
external terminator and I don't know if the regular teminators
that come inside the drives will work with it.

Tom.

PS:  The case looks really nice sitting on my desk, and the power
button is convenienly located on the front.

PPS:  You will probably need to get a bunch of jumpers so you can
set the SCSI address.  I think you can get them at Radio Shack.
The mail order places I've bought drives from in the past have
included data sheets that showed the location of the SCSI address
jumpers and have indicated how to set them.

PPPS (last one, I swear!): You'll also probably need to get
some power cable splitters (Y-cable, 1 female->2 males) as
the power supply will probably only have 2-3 hard drive power
connectors of the right size.


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From: Daniel_A._Chirkov@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:18:50 EST
Subject: Re: printing japanese

where can I get a driver so it's possible to print
japanese on a hp deskxxx (forget the name - the mac
deskjet or deskwriter). are they available via ftp?

All you need is a Japanese font (TrueType or Postscript format of course). No
special printer driver is needed. 
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From: chh9@quads.uchicago.edu (Conrad Halling)
Subject: Re: Buy pb180 now, or wait for Febuary pb's?
Reply-To: chh9@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:19:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.193321.751@dsd.es.com> 
  edespain@es.com (Eric Despain) writes:

>I want to buy a pb180 to take to school with me in the spring to write my
>thesis.  I read an article in EE times today that implied apple would announce
>a color power book in Febuary.  Also, the artice focused on a new low cost
>power book (<$1000) that apple will build in asia.
>    I don't really need color on the mac, especially if the quality of the 
>monocrome display is superior to the color display for word processing.  But,
>I wonder if the pb180 prices will come down after the announcement, or if the
>new pbs will be in a new, smaller, package.

If you _really_ don't care about color and if most of your work will be word 
processing, then you don't need a PowerBook 180 or even 160 -- a 
black-and-white 145 will do.  If you want gray scale, then a 160 is nice 
(I have one, and I love it) and only a few hundred $$ more than the 145.  
The only advantages of the 180 over the 160 are the FPU (which you wouldn't 
use for word processing) and the nicer, much more expensive screen.  
Remember, you can buy a 160 and a 13" color monitor to plug it into for less 
than the price of a 180.  And with a 160, you won't go through the agony of
stuck pixels.

I don't know how PowerBooks could be produced in a new, smaller package,
and still retain space for a full-size keyboard, a 640 x 400 screen, a
hard drive, and a floppy drive.

I doubt very much that PowerBook prices will come down anytime soon since
they're in extremely short supply.  I would advise that you buy today --
it might take until next February to get a PowerBook even if you order now.

-- 
Conrad Halling
c-halling@uchicago.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jak@panix.com (Jack Kreuger)
Subject: Re: Accelerated PowerBooks!!
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:49:34 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <85552@ut-emx.uucp> jbaughmn@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jim Baughman) writes:

>Accelerated PowerBooks!!

>You know, I've heard of people doing the old "oscillator swap" with 
>PowerBook 170s, specifically 25 MHz -> 33 MHz.  

>Has anyone else heard this?  
>Has anyone tried it with anything besides a IIsi?

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Jim Baughman,
>University of Texas, Austin.
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yes, please if anyone has any info on this. If your going to e-mail info
please include;
jak@panixcom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
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From: Matt_Harrop@magicbb.uucp
Organization: MAGIC - Macintosh Awareness Group In Canada
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:19:47 EST
Subject: Re: PowerBook HD's and RAM Question?

>I am looking to upgrade my HD in my PB160 to about 120 megs.  Could
>someone recommend a really good place to buy one at a reasonable price?

La Cie is probably the best bet.  You can get a Quantum 120MB Go-Drive for
$499 from them.  You might be able to find the same drive for a little less
from another vendor, but La Cie will not rip you off.

matt.harrop@magicbb.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: davidh@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Klein)
Subject: Re: how to receive faxes (?)
Keywords: fax modems, receive
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:19:56 GMT

janus@staff.tc.umn.edu () writes:

>I have considered buying a fax/modem.  One queion that
>probably has a smart answer, but I can't picture the
>answer now.

>How do I receive a fax?  I doubt I'd buy a new line just
>for faxes.  Would someone have to tell me with voice
>that they were about to send a fax?  Then I switch something
>over to receive fax mode?  Or do I listen and hear a tone and
>turn it on?  Any simple answers?  Also any recommendations
>on fax/modems?  I think I'd like a data modem at least with 96000
>bps.

>Louis Janus
>janus@staff.tc.umn.edu

There are two ways that faxes can be recieved depending on the type of
fax machine. On modem/faxes, there can be two methods of doing this.
The reason comes from the method that the faxes are sent. On some fax
machines, the faxes are just sent automatically, you do nothing. On
others, you have to wait for the tone, and then press the start/stop
button. On a fax modem with voce mail, the proplem is solved by its
program. When an automatic fax calls in, the voice/fax automatically
switches to fax. If it is one of those with a start/stop button, my
voice message tells them to press the number one on their keypad, and
then the fax tone is generated and the fax takes over.
Before investing in one of these gizmos, it is best to try the
features of the modem/fax/voice before you buy. I personally found
that the $488 investment in the Promethus Ultima Home Office was well
worth it. It is a 14.4 modem, 9600bps fax, and voice mail/answering
machine with thousands of voice mailboxes. The software is excellent
and easy to use. If you don't have a voice digitizer already, it makes
any normal phone into one. It allows you to record sound for editing.
The best part about it is that you don't need three different pieces
of equipment and millions of cables. Everything is included. 

Hope this helps. The Ultima Home Office can be found in the Mac Zone
in MacWorld.
-- 
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                           -Jerry Sterner   author of Other People's Money
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From: esooter@x102a.harris-atd.com (sooter eric 64050)
Subject: Re: Mac OS in PC
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 13:46:54 GMT
Reply-To: esooter@x102a.ess.harris.com (sooter eric 64050)    
Organization: Harris Corporation GSS, Melbourne, Florida

In article <Nazedgi-181292192119@stiles-kstar-node.net.yale.edu> Nazedgi@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (Nazedgi@yalevm) writes:
>Microsoft has declared the war on Macs from the moment they released
>Windows. Apple sued to no avail and Windows sales are skyrocketing. Now
>they have released Windows for workgroups and Video for windows (A
>quicktime competitor) Why doesn't Apple port the OS to the PC world?  I
>understand that it may hurt some of their hardware sales, but what would
>hurt more, the MAC OS running on a PC or Windows machines? Apple has always
>been touted as an excellent software company. Show it then! Stick it to
>Microsoft the way they have been doing it to the Mac; make Bill Gates sleep
>restless at night. I don't know how feasible it would be to port the OS,
>especially since it would have to be compatible with DOS and Windows to be
>competitive, but if it can be done I would like to see it. 

	I second the motion!

And further more, I think if Apple would change their current Paradigm in 
marketing, they could radically change the PC/Workstation market place.
Imagine this, PowerBooks at about $1k based on current 68030 technology.
And serious desktop machines (not the new ones, i.e. IIvx), all 68040
based for $2k.  Everybody is tired of the Intel based PCs and
the time has come to blow away the competition.  If Apple geared up for
serious production, they could even bring the workstation market down
to something affordable by the masses.  The Apple MacIntosh could have
been the standard in the early 80's if Apple hadn't been so greedy.  A
second chance in the computer business is un-heard of (ask DEC).  Come
on Apple, go for it.

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| Eric L. Sooter	email 	esooter@x102a.ess.harris.com    |
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From: jahnke@biosci.arizona.edu (Jerome Jahnke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pc.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: DogCow - where it comes from
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:53:55 GMT
Organization: Biology Learning Center

In article <RMT=c+@engin.umich.edu>, dirty@engin.umich.edu (Cameron Esfahani) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Dec15.142900.29942@netcom.com> Brian Kendig,
> bskendig@netcom.com writes:
> >ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
> >>
> >>I found out where the Dogcow comes from (download it from cica!). Go
> >>to any Mac and pull up the Page Setup. Click on _Options_. See the 
> >>DogCow? Its supposedly named "Claris" - supposedly the mascot for the 
> >>Mac Systems Software group.
> >
> >Nope, that's "Clarus".  "Miss Clarus" to you.  And I believe she's the
> >mascot of DTS.  For detailed information, get Tech Note 31.
> 
> Clarus is dead.  I don't know the exact circumstances but I was talking
> to some 
> people who work for DTS, and they told me she had died.

Probably grazing too close to the cliff. This is what happens when you don't 
heed the advice of DTS!!

> Cameron "Make Mine a 99" Esfahani
> dirty@engin.umich.edu

Jer,
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.hardware:24234 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:33299
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:09:13 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1992Dec14.222824.9100@nbnz.co.nz> warren@nbnz.co.nz (warren adams) writes:

>It takes a real computer to kick a PCs butt, ie SUN

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From: adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir)
Subject: Re: pc and mac: was RE: 486 and mac benchmarks
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:52:17 GMT

>So, because it is different than the Windows default, it is no good?  This
>leads back to the original point.  The Mac has a different way of doing
>things, perhaps not better or worse than windows, but you can't reasonably
>complain that the Mac is inferior because it does things different from
>windows.

On the contrary, the Mac's GUI is FAR FAR superior to the pathetic excuse
for a GUI Windows users have grown accustomed to and have been misled to
believe is actually in the same league as System7.  Why do you think there
is such a huge demand for things like Norton Desktop for Windows and
WinTools?  Before you flame on, consider this:  Norton Desktop and Wintools
both make the Windows Interface slightly more Mac-like.  You don't see
ANY shell replacements for the Mac to make it more Windows like...there is
a reason for that.  Windows' GUI sucks.

THAT my friends, is the truth.  

On the other hand, OS/2 2.0's interface is wonderful.  I like it better
than System 7.
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From: kfield@bbn.com (Ken Field)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: IIsi on it's side?
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:20:18 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

bredell@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell) writes:
>Jack Moxness (moxness@acs.ucalgary.ca) wrote:
>: 	If anyone out there owns a IIsi model (or knows this answer) can
>: you please advise me as to whether a Mac IIsi may be operated tipped up on
>: one of it's sides? If this is possible is it advisable to reformat the
>: hard drive after placing it in this position? Thank-you.

>The official Apple policy is that if you can put the computer on the side, the
>manual will say so. When I look into my Mac IIsi hardware manual they don't
>mention anything about this, so I guess you should avoid tipping it up on
>the side.


I've had mine on its side for the past year or so.  I've had no
problems (yet).
-Ken
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From: Daniel_J._Wartko@uu0570.foggybottom.com
Organization: Foggy Bottom / Washington, D.C.
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 22:47:01 EST
Subject: MAC PLUS SCREEN PROBLEMS

HELP!!

I've been having problems with my Mac Plus screen.  It's got what we all get
when we age, I guess.  Shrinkage and the shakes.

The shrinkage can be fixed through steps already posted here (internal
adjustments with a non-conducting screwdriver), but what about the DT's that
my poor ol' Mac has developed?

The screen flickers, gets bright lines through it and pulses a little.  Or a
lot.  A good smack or two on the side (Mac abuse!), but this is really no way
to live.  Can anyone suggest an easy or cheap way to fix this?  Any help is
greatly appreciated!  My waranty has expired (2 years ago), so no free help
from Apple.  Are there any coverage policies (like AppleCare*) that are worth
buying?

While I'm at it, if I add more memory, will this affect the power going to the
screen, and if so, is there any remedy I can take.

                         Thanks, 
                           Dan Wartko
                            Arlington, VA
Foggy Bottom - your FirstClass Mac connection in Washington, DC

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From:  (m19701)
Subject: Mac IIvx
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: mitre.org
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:46:24 GMT

Does anyone know what is happening at Apple to cause the 4-6 weeks delivery
times for the Mac IIvx?  When I bought (pre-paid) for a Mac IIvx system (3
weeks ago) I was told they'd be in on the next truck.  Then told "the next
del., now I'm told maybe by the end of January?  Because I'm getting the
system w/ CD, monitor, exkeyb, and 12 meg of memory for about $3600, I'm
reluctant to can the order (love student/corporate prices), however . . .

I'm being told that there are hardware problems (w/ CD drive), the plant's
shut down for the holidays, Apple screwed up and didn't plan for the
holiday season (PPP = piss poor planning), and that Apple is only shipping
to the West Coast at this time.  "Strategic Allocation" is one of the buzz
words that keeps popping up.

Does anyone out there know?  I'm sure I'm not alone with this question. 
And my wife hates the idea of lossing interest on an already cashed check.

I bought from one of those semi-glitzee places that I thought was
reputable.  CompUSA.

ed casey

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From: chyang@panthro.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: P5 v. PowerPC (WAS: Where the mac really wins)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:52:46 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: chyang@panthro.engin.umich.edu


In article <1992Dec11.092332.16609@etek.chalmers.se>, janolov@cdg.chalmers.se (Jan-Olov Lantto) writes:
> In article <WAGNER.92Dec10161223@grace.math.uh.edu> wagner@grace.math.uh.edu
> (David Wagner) writes:
> >This is just my two bits, and it is said in hindsight, but if Apple were
> >to make this kind of arrangement today, I would say that they ought
> >to use the Alpha chip.  From what I know of it, (which ain't all that
> >much) it seems ideal for emulations.  If it can run OSF and VMS, then
> >(IMHO) it ought to be able to do `Mac' and MC680XX pretty well.  Of
> >course then we'd all have to be 64-bit clean, I guess.
> >
> >I sure hope the PowerPC won't have to use IBM `Power'-style
> >memory boards.  Those things cost an arm and a leg!
> >
> >David H. Wagner		"Buy the truth and do not sell it."
> >			Proverbs 23:23a
> >
> There are some big differences between PowerPC and Alpha, that makes Alpha
> unsuitible as a chip for PC s.
> 
> 1.  Chip area. Smaller chip area = lower production cost = cheap computers.
> 2   Power consumption. Low power consumption = can be used in notebooks.
> 

	??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

	DEC Alpha's are is made with sub-micrometer technology.  I believe
it is something like 0.7 micron technology, which allows the chip voltage 
voltage to be 0 - 3.3 V (compared to 0-5v for most of the PC chips today).  
The high integration also allows the chip to operate at 200MHZ.  At that 
speed, yes you will produce lots of heat, but if you operate the chip at 
a lower frequency (50MHZ or lower)  The power consumpstion comparable to 
pretty much any PC-microchip on the market today.

	For notebooks, you could include power management, by varing the 
speed of the processor - to slow down the clock speed when the processor
sits idle.  But using DEC Alpha in notebooks would be an overkill, I agree.

- Chung Yang  
    




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From: nick+@pitt.edu (Nick C De Mello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: MiniDock status?
Date: 17 Dec 92 05:40:20 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Dec16.033324.29025@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf) writes:
>I've seen the E-Machines minidock advertised somewhere (one of the big 
>mail-order catalog places), and for under $500 you get all the ports the Apple 
>minidock has, PLUS ethernet.  Don't know if these guys are available in 
>quantity, but I would hope they wouldn't be advertised unless they were 
>available now or really REALLY soon.

Bob:

  The prices I've seen are about $620 for the "DeskNet" (the dock with
all the MiniDock ports plus ethernet) and $400 for the "Presentor" just
video out and a few other ports (forget which but less than the
MiniDock).  It's possible you got the prices of the two backwards, 
but if you do have some info about where to get the DeskNet for
under $500, please e-mail me.  I've been thinking of buying it.

                                    -- Nick



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From: mlobbia@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Kaneda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Duo Printer?
Keywords: is it possible?
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:37:43 GMT

How possible is it to design a printer that connects to the large expansion
port on the back of a Duo?  Does anyone out there know enough technically to
say if this is possible?  I posted this on a FirstClass gateway and got no
responses at all.

Marcus
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From: edespain@es.com (Eric Despain)
Subject: Buy pb180 now, or wait for Febuary pb's?
Reply-To: edespain@es.com (Eric Despain)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 19:33:21 GMT

I want to buy a pb180 to take to school with me in the spring to write my
thesis.  I read an article in EE times today that implied apple would announce
a color power book in Febuary.  Also, the artice focused on a new low cost
power book (<$1000) that apple will build in asia.
    I don't really need color on the mac, especially if the quality of the 
monocrome display is superior to the color display for word processing.  But,
I wonder if the pb180 prices will come down after the announcement, or if the
new pbs will be in a new, smaller, package.
    Anyone out there know about the new power books, or care to comment on 
possible price changes in Febuary?
Thanks for the info,
Eric Despain

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