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From: shacha1@tau.ac.il (SHEMESH SHACHAR)
Subject: Re: User protection?
Organization: Tel-Aviv University Computation Center
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:48:40 GMT

Lionel Tun (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk) wrote:
: Is there a way to enable a number of users to have their
: own private file space on the a disk?

: Its for an A3000 to by used by a number of people in a
: church, so I'm not paranoid about hacking, but people
: may need a measure of security for sensitive data and a
: defence against some user accidentally deleting another
: users directory.

: BTW I am proposing to have 3 partitions, System:, Software:,
: and Users:.

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It is possible, thought I don't know of a program that does that. There
can be a filesystem that will ask for login, and then manage the
permisions. It's not even very difficult, and if you'r mostly
conserned about accidents, then such a thing is pretty safe. Anyone
has any idea of such a thing?
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From: vailm00@DMI.USherb.CA (MARC VAILLANCOURT)
Subject: Re: Where's DataTax
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- Dept. d'Informatique
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:24:08 GMT

-> Does anyone know what happened to DataTax (the company).  I need 
-> to get my annual upgrade to do my taxes and the original phone 
-> number is disconnected. I seem to remember that they were bought 
-> out ... anyone have a way to contact them?
 
   I think Oxxi will now be responsible of all new updates to this program.

	Marc
From: j_hammon@csd.uwe.ac.uk (J Hammond-turner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Starting with PasTeX 1.3
Summary: TeX distribution
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:07:24 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

I seem to have missed the start of the discussion on TeX, as well as the net
distribution, so can anyone tell me where I can get the thing from... The TeX
I'm using is a very old port done by a friend and is wearing a little... Also -
what's the latest version of the DVI previewer so I can check against my
version... 

Email replies, please, to save net.bandwidth! 8-)

Joel




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From: u1jpm@ohm.york.ac.uk (Jonathan P Moore - H600/91)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Metafont font generation for TeX
Summary: How the heck do I get Metafont to automatically generate PK fonts ?
Keywords: TeX Metafont generation
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:27:09 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

Can anybody give me a fools guide on how to set up metafont using
Arexx so that when I use dvips or Showdvi it actually generates the
font required??

The docs are a bit skimpy, and my knowledge of Arexx relies upon the
manual that comes with Workbench 2 (ie I know nothing!)

Thanks a lot

Just a thought - If all Pc`s use 1 Meg *9 Simms?  Why would GVP opt
to use 1 Meg * 8? Wierd eh?  1 Meg * 9 is a lot cheaper for obvious
reasons? I`m definitely going to buy 1 Meg *9 to expand my GVP Hc+8
board and my vortex 386sx bridgeboard!
From: dgold@basso.actrix.gen.nz (Dale Gold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Basic PasTeX help needed.
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:19:28 PST
Organization: New Zealand Symphony Orchestra

Quoted from <1993Jan24.150358.1@sevmsa.cs.msstate.edu> 
  by gowen@sevmsa.cs.msstate.edu:

>  I just get some strange warning that says "Checksum
> mismatch in font manfnt.pk360" when I use it.  

Mine's called manfnt.360pk - if that wasn't a typo, renaming it might help.
I know that some other systems use slightly different naming conventions,
and when I got a bunch of Unix fonts that didn't work renaming them fixed
it.

> I was converting the MetaFont
> documentation's .DVI file to PostScript when I noticed this problem.  Any
> ideas?  I deleted this font, and had MetaFont rebuild it, but I then get the
> same message.  

Checksum errors make me wonder if your .tfm file is screwy.
Try renaming manfont.tfm to manfont.bak, and see if Metafont can
make a good one for you.  

> This is a PD-Version of (big) Pas-TeX (made Aug 29 1991 [br]/[hes])
> This is TeX, C Version 3.14
> This is a format file for a `normal' TeX.
> (Fatal format file error; I'm stymied)

Looks like you used the bigvirtex (whatever it's called...) executable
instead of the normal one.  You shouldn't need to bother with bigTeX
except in dire situations.

>  I may not be
> defining all the environment's variables or something.  Any ideas? 

Could be.  Get ahold of SnoopDos and you will see some interested
undocument things about what PasTeX is doing. 
 
Good luck - it's worth the effort!
Dale

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From: cfury@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Chris Fury)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.tect,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: WB3.0 on an A3000?
Date: 28 Jan 93 16:43:22 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu (Michael S McKnight) writes:

>I have heard roomers about being able to run WB3 on pre-aga systems and that CBM
>had re-written all of the graphics code to make graphic operations on these ECS
>machines faster.


Yes.  WB 3.0 works on a 3000.  I've seen it, I've played with it, I want it.
And, again, yes, the layers library has been rewritten and the speed increase 
is very noticible.


>If so, does it just speed up things like Animations, or painting programs, or
>intuition windows, or any graphic operation whatsoever?  This is of course
>under the assumption that anything the Amiga displays is graphic.

mainly, the windows and layering has been sped up, but it it concieveable
that some of the low level graphics routines have been optimized as well.

>Second, whats the likelyhood(sp?) of CBM actually releasing this as an upgrade
>to 2.1?

Not very likely, not yet.  Commodore is trying to sell as many 1200's and 4000's
as they possibly can right now.  I believe that 3.0 won't be released to
the general public, and that the next OS we'll be able to get is 4.0, becuase
that'll support retargatble graphics instead of the mainly AGA support in
3.0.  I just hope they hurry their butts up with 4.0 :)

>If they do, would it include a new SuperKickStart for my A3000?  I don't want to
>have to change any chips... I like my A3000 to be able to upgrade OS without
>having to buy a new chip every time.

If you have a system that can boot with a superkickstart, it'll work fine.
basically there is a file kept in devs: that IS the kickstart ROM image. 
So installing a new version of the OS kernal should basically be replacing
that file.  (er, the answer is yes.)


>_________________________________________________________________________
>| Michael McKnight -- msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu |    Amiga 3000-25/100  |
>|                     msmcknig@mosaic.uncc.edu  |  Insight 386DX-25/105 |
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|      PP-ASEL -- See, I'm not a 100% geek... I fly airplanes too!      |
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From: Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter)
Subject: Re: Amiga GIF viewer wanted....
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:01:06 GMT

   Pay the $35 and get Hamlab. It views GIF, JPEG, IFF (including 24-bit),
and converts from one to the other. THere's a PD demo around that only does
512x512, so you can get the feel of it.

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From: bandy@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Mike Bandy)
Subject: Re: SAS 6.2 update
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:06:50 GMT

walker@twix.unx.sas.com (Doug Walker) writes:

>there was a major bug having to do with the MATH=68881 option

Can you expand on that a little.  If we're using SAS 6.1 should we
avoid the command line arg "MATH=COPROCESSOR"?

-- 

	Mike Bandy
	bandy@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
	Johns Hopkins University / Applied Physics Lab
From: quix@panix.com (George Papadopoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: How to make other screens Pal
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:24:35 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

Hello,
	On occasion I use program on custom screens, however I have
not been able to get proper pal screens.  I run my wb is pal overscan
mode, but most of my custom screens become ntsc.  Does anybody know 
how I can force all the screens into pal?  Thanks in advance.
From: cmp0119@sys.uea.ac.uk (Paul Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: PopUpMenu
Keywords: pop up menus bogabogabogabogabogabogaboga
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:18:29 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

groth@valentin.fmi.uni-passau.de (Peter Groth) writes:

>In article <cmp0119.727956492@oxygen.sys.uea.ac.uk>, cmp0119@sys.uea.ac.uk (Paul Harrison) writes:
>>  
>> I miss my pop up menus! I want them back!
>> 
>> Paul
>> cmp0119@uk.ac.uea.sys

>Try MagicMenu V1.17 - it does all you want and more :-)
>Available from amiga.physik.unizh.ch and its mirrors in the directory
>os20/cdity.
>-- 
>Peter                                  groth@peschl.fmi.uni-passau.de

Thanks to everyone who's replied and suggested this... I've downloaded it
and I'll test it when I get home...

Paul
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From: bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell)
Subject: Re: GhostScript available for the Amiga
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:29:42 GMT

Is there a plain PostScript -> ASCII converter? I have a 250K PS file which
I would like to read, but I don't need all the fancy fonts, layout etc. Post
v1.5 is just too slow, even on a fast Amiga.

Barry.
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From: cs_e445@king.ac.uk (Vlod Kalicun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: better 'CD' command wanted!
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Date: 22 Jan 1993 14:22:39 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ceres.kingston.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

: e228reac@credit.erin.utoronto.ca (Rea  Christopher Wi) writes:

: > 
: > The reason for a replacement CD command is simple. Sure, auto-directory
: > navigation with Release 2 was made incredibly easy, but there are those of
: > us whose fingers are just itching to do "cd .." to return to the parent
: > directory. After using UNIX for a long time and AmigaDOS too it gets
: > confusing. I find myself using "cd .." on the Amiga side occasionally and
: > "cd /" when I'm logged into a UNIX system; one CD command that could handle
: > both would solve the problem for me on the Amiga. (UNIX is a different
: > story... :-)

I personally have ditched AmigaDos commands and have CShell which is a drop
in replacement for it.
It lets me do the above and has neat things like class. (the action on a 
file that it recognizes as a .lha would be to extract it etc..)

Regards..

Vlod
-Amiga Advocate.
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From: algo3b@p102.informatik.Uni-Bremen.DE (Kurs Algo3)
Subject: Re: PopUpMenu
Keywords: pop up menus bogabogabogabogabogabogaboga
Organization: Universitaet Bremen
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:28:54 GMT

In article <cmp0119.727956492@oxygen.sys.uea.ac.uk>, cmp0119@sys.uea.ac.uk (Paul Harrison) writes:
|> 
|> After a spate of unpleasant crashes I finally convinced myself that
|> *something* was mucking up my system and proceded to remove (and after
|> each test replace) each utility in my WBStartup draw/user-startup file
|> until the machine started working properly again. To my utter horror,
|> everything suddenly worked perfectly when I removed PopUpMenu...
|> 
|> Q: Is PopUpMenu at all notorious for not working under KS2.04, or is
|>    my copy corrupted/ancient?
|>


Hmm, I'm using PopUpMenu 5.0 and it's working fine (I think) - no crashes at all.
Config: A2000B - Kick 37.175 (ZKick'ed) and WB 2.1 (beta release).

Greetings,

  Olf

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From: jmarin@messi.uku.fi (Jukka Marin)
Subject: Re: Maths software required. Any ideas?
Date: 22 Jan 93 07:12:56 GMT
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland

zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons) writes:

>Can you tell me about AmigaTeX?  Does it cost?  How do you get it to work
>with Maple?  If it does cost, since I'm short of funds, can Maple output
>TeX stuff for PasTeX to chew on?

AmigaTeX is a commercial TeX port from Radical Eye Software.  It is very
good (never crashed, lots of nice Amigaish features like a fast previewer)
and well worth the money, IMHO.  I think the basic system was $200 but you'd
better check.

MapleV has a function which converts the internal format into LaTeX format
which you can feed to any proper TeX implementation, so it should work
with PasTeX as well.

  Jukka Marin
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From: kaputnik@ikaros.cc.uch.gr (__ the Time Lord __)
Subject: PageSetter to PS ?
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Crete HELLAS
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:16:52 GMT

 Is there any way to convert files saved by PageSetter 1.2 to Postscript 
format? If not is there any PD or shareware DTP package that saves in PostScript
format?

					Kaputnik the Time Lord
From: trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications,comp.sys.unix.gnu
Subject: Re: GhostScript available for the Amiga
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:16:56 GMT
Organization: University of New South Wales
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kennethm@cc.gatech.edu (Kenneth Moorman) writes:
: In article <1993Jan23.094736.2696@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE) writes:
: >	Well GhostScript is available now for the amiga, and I have managed
: >to set it up (It's available on Amiga.physik in text/dtp/) Even though
: >very few must have got it yet, has anyone managed to get the epson
: >driver working ? It garbles the printout, gifmono works fine but the reolution
: >is too small and does not seem to change. For anyone that is having probs,
: >I set a very high stack (ie 200000) so it won't crash. It prints to PAR: well
: >but refuses to do so corectly. Can or has anyone managed to get it to work.
: >	Thanks in advance
: >		George
: 
: Well, I have problems with ghostscript.  I have the font files 
: in usr:lib/ghostscript/fonts, and the binaries in usr:bin.  
: When I CD to the examples directory and say 
: 	GS -sDEVICE=epson chess.ps 
 My comand line is

	gs -sDEVICE=epson -sOutputFile=test chess.ps
Then I copy test to PRT:
I also use -sOutputFile=PRT: and that also work. But the print is pretty bad.
One thing that works is to render to gifmono but you can't alter the resolution
making it useful only for preview. And not even that. The outlines of the
tables did not print (Output Word for Mac)



: it starts, thinks for a while, says >>showpage, hit ....
: and gives me nothing.   If I try to specify an output file, 
: I get a rangeerror in get and it dies on me.   I have tried the
: other examples and the other drivers with no success.  
: 
: Stack = 500000
: Machine = A2000 / A2630 + 4 megs ++ Supra 2 megs ++ WB2.1 ++ various
: commodities running in the system.
: 
: Any thoughts, comments, etc. ????
: 
: Thanks.  
: 
: 			- Kenneth Moorman (kennethm@cc.gatech.edu)

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	No probs
		George
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From: papo@pyuxf.uucp (25241-anaya)
Subject: Misc Questions 
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 21:45:14 GMT

Hi *  


I have a couple of quick questions.

1.  Is there SL/IP for Amiga.
2.  Have anyone here have use the X-Windows system for Amiga DOS and tell me
about it??? like:

1.  Systems Requirements.
2.  Protocols supported.
3.  Stability.


Regards,


Luis Roberto Anaya-Rivera         papo@pyuxf.cc.bellcore.com
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From: jkrutz@burner.com (Jamie Krutz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Latest version of ProCalc ?
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:09:19 MST
Organization: The Back Burner BBS (via C-Net Amiga)

>Michal Todorovic writes:
(list of new procalc features deleted)
>Oh yeah, all the bugs reported that were duplicable (and lots of others that
weren't) were fixed.

Good news.  Sounds like it might be time to invest in your program.
-J

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From: megabyte@chinet.chi.il.us (Dr. Megabyte)
Subject: Upgrades from older Prowrite: How?
Organization: Abacus Computers - You Can Count On Us
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:54:45 GMT

I have an older version of Prowrite, version 3.11.  I understand they are
up to version 3.3.  I did send in a registration card, but they never
contacted me about an upgrade.  How does the company handle upgrades from
older version of Prowrite?
-- 
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From: benw@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (bennett.weber)
Subject: Re: Wordworth2 Question
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:23:54 GMT

(Concerning the Wordsworth2 demo on the AMiga Format Coverdisk...)

>Could someone please upload this demo to an Amiga FTP site?  I bought the
>magazine (partly due to the fact that I want Scribble! and WW II demo).  
>Unfortunately, that disk turned out to be corrupted.  *sigh*.  I wouldn't 
>want to deal with the bookstore, as they don't have any Amiga to proof that
>it is indeed corrupted.  Furthermore, I don't want to ship it all the way 
>back to England to have it replaced.  I could care less about Scibble, but
>I would love to see WW II demo... 

Unfortunately, according to the magazine, their coverdisk stuff is
copyrighted on NON re-distributable without permission.  Guess
they want to sell magazines...crazy, no?

						Ben Weber
From: thomas@ozcrwl (Hugh Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: Landscape printing in Final Copy II
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:19:29 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

aquirt@bnr.ca (Alan Quirt) writes:
: In article <1993Jan27.024132.29423@socrates.umd.edu>,
: rocky@socrates.umd.edu (Rocky Giannini) wrote:
: > Does Final Copy have the ability to print in "landscape" (sideways on the
: > paper) mode?  I know that Prowrite has this feature, but from what I've 
: > been reading, Final Copy II has much over Prowrite in printing capabilities.
: 
: It will print Postscript in landscape mode, to a file or to an attached
: printer, but it will not print landscape pages in its regular graphics
: mode. Too bad. 

Technically correct, but of limited usefullness depending on what you want.

Specifying "landscape" simply rotates each page by 90 degrees ON OUTPUT, but
the pages you entered are still in "portrait" alignment. So you end up with
the first half of your page down the left hand side of the (landscape oriented)
output page. The rest of the output just drops off the edge of the page.

I did succeed in getting proper landscape output (i.e. text running the full
width of the landscape page) but it took a bit of fiddling...

First I tried swapping the page "height" and "width" values in the Page Setup
menu.  Unfortunately FCII complained that the width I'd entered was out of
range (I was using A4 dimensions). I reduced the width value bit by bit
until I found a value it would accept.  It was only a 1 or 2cm below what I
wanted so I just increased the "print area" and "edit area" up to the edge of
the page to effectively get the correct usable area.
  Once I'd entered the text I printed it with "landscape" option and it came
out OK. Note that doing it this way all pages in your document must be in
landscape orientation, you can't mix and match.

Hope this helps.

Hugh.
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From: adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap)
Subject: PS --> PCL Converter
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:07:54 GMT

Does anybody know of a PD/Shareware Postscript to PCL converter for the
amiga (that will work with OS 1.3 -- no cash to upgrade yet :).  Actually
just a postscript interpreter so I can print on any Preferences Printer.

Wasn't there a program called Pixel Script or Print Script a long time ago
that used to be PD but turned commercial?  Are there any Public Domain
programs that do what those programs did.

Thanx.

Edsel
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meeting."
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