Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc
From: mfriedma@uucp (Michael Friedman)
Subject: Re: Another Cover-Up?
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:50:16 GMT
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In article <01GPCRMFHKPOG9L8C5@UMAECS> VIGNESWA@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>Anwar Mohammed writes: >"
>>""Innocent" 250,000? Uniformed thugs and looters caught trying to
>>"escape Kuwait in their stolen autos stuffed with loot is more like
>>"it. There were civilian casualties of the bombing campaign, and that's
>>"an unfortunate fact of war, but the bulk of the dead were on the road
>>"out of Kuwait and in the entrenchments *inside* Kuwait and southern
>>"Iraq.

>Palmer writes: >>
>>>FALSE! The majority of those who died were civilians who died as a result
>>>of our bombing sewerage treatment plants and water plants. See RED CROSS
>>>reports.

>Anwar writes again: >
>>I'm amazed that you still have the audacity to post after your lies.  Why
>>don't you address the question?  Neither Amnesty International or
>>Red Cross *ever* claimed that the U.S. killed 250,000 innocent people.

>The records I have:

>According to May 92 report of Green Peace, there were more than 200,000 
>deaths (directly or indirectly).  Around 120,000 Iraqi soldiers died in
>the 43 day war. Half of the above was killed in the 100 hour ground war.
>There were civilian deaths in the range of 49,000 to 76,000. Because of
>very Strict censorship by America, Saudi Arabia and Kuwait, this shock-
>ing news was covered-up.  

Hmm.  Aren't these the same guys who claimed the oil fires would
cause massive climate change and the Persian Gulf would be devoid of
life?  

If you still think they may be telling the truth, just look at the
accuracy of those estimates.  Two significant figures, but a range of
50%?  Ridiculous.  If they said 50,000 to 75,000 they might have
actually done some real guestimation rather than pulling numbers from
a hat.

>Though I respect the  RED CROSS and AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL, I guess they
>are not beyond the patriotism. 

If there is one thing I hate it is ignorance.  I'm not sure about AI,
but the Red Cross is an international organization.  Their
headquarters is in Switzerland.  Mind telling use how patriotism comes
in here?  

Why do you think GreenPeace is more credible than AI or the Red Cross?

>Amnesty International report during the
>Gulf War said that Iraqi soldiers went to maternity hospitals and threw
>the children out of the inhubator boxes (sorry for paraphasing). 

So?  Are you claiming that if they were honest they could never be fooled?

>I know.  This is not the proper forum (alt.politics.clinton) for all of
>these.  But I didn't want to leave this  unanswered.  I wouldn't do any
>follow up in this forum.

Well I would.  Don't you all find it significant that the people who
parrot all this stuff about how many people we killed seem to be Slick
Willie fans?

>>Anwar Mohammed                FREE THE KUWAITI POWS.

>That's a good demand. 

So what are you willing to do about it?  More bombing raids to make
Saddam release them?

>Don't you need a Democratic  Republic of Kuwait?

Probably depends on your definition of need.

>I wouldn't like to be a citizen of Kuwait, Inc., which has a membership
>in UN.

Then don't move there.
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