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From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Glycerol & sweating
Keywords: gross, poison, better_living_through_chemistry
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:13:45 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <1992Aug26.184938.14829@midway.uchicago.edu> fri0@quads.uchicago.edu (Christian Fritze) writes:

>One more thing to consider...
> 
>While the glycerol itself may do your insides no harm, does the stuff that
>was made for "external use only" isolated/purified in such a way that it may
>contain traces of other nasties that will make you ill?

>On the more reasonable side, there are plenty of substances where the isolation is done one way if for industrial use, another for medical use/consumption.

 Same thing with non-pharaceutical DMSO usage of about a decade ago. BTW, is
DMSO still used as a sports related aid by any runners?

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From: kiuchi@sumax.seattleu.edu (Quickdraw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: possibly get a rec.sport.track-field ?
Keywords: wouldnt it be nice..
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:08:24 GMT
Organization: The House Disk Jockeys International

Perhaps one can be created? Any other people in favor of this? (please!)

kevin
From: arands@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rolf Arands)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Speed Improvement Training
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:05:11 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

fkao@buengf.bu.edu (Frank Kao) writes:

>Hi netlanders, I have a few questions to all of you on the subject on
>training techniques to improve speed and endurance.  My main objective   
>is to improve my speed on the bike, I like distance riding, however, in
>the last few years even though my speed have improved, but I think it
>can be better.

>Question #1:  I heard of interval training on both running and biking,
>  anybody have any guide lines on doing this?  Can I safely say run intervals
>  earily in the morning, and ride intervals in the night?  Do I do each
>  on consecutive days?

No, in my opinion.  Never do two hard workouts in the same day, especially bike
and run.  Consecutive days is better, but I feel a rest day in between at the
minimum is best.

>Question #2:  How much distance riding should I do, I have already over 1500
>  miles riding for the season, is this a good base for the interval training
>  should I limit the distance riding I do and concentrate on the intercal
>  training for the next few weeks, get the speed up and then do the distance
>  riding?

Yes, it seems you have plenty of base.  I find the most effective speed work
on the bike is a short but ultra fast time trial.  You approach this TT
as if it were a race.  I do 10-15 minutes warm up, followed by a 6-10 mile
TT at 26-30 mph AVERAGE pace.  I don't have much experience with intervals on
the bike, other than hill climbing (which is #1 for bike training).  

>Question #3:  How long does it take before I can see some results from teh
>  the different training?

I see results usually about 2 weeks after the first workout.

>Your inputs are appreciated!
>fkao

Also, one HARD bike per week seems reasonable, as it doesn't tear up the body 
like running does.  


Hope my $0.02 helps someone.

Rolf Arands
arands@gandalf.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: garyth@sun.ac.za (Garyth Harris)
Subject: Training for Triathlon(s)
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:56:01 GMT

Hi ya netters,

A little background first.  This is my first year that I am seriously 
attempting to train and participate in triathlons, having been an avid
duathlete (run-cycle-run events) over the past year.  The last time I
had any swim traing was about 10 years ago when I was still in high school.
I am now 26 (yesterday:-)  

My questions are:
1)  how should I go about including swim training in my training schedule?
    Are there any texts to which I can refer for further enlightment?

2)  Can anyone comment on the content and intensity of training (for each
    event) that I should follow?  (if you want, I can mail you my weekly
    schedule to indicate the time I have available)

Being a "new" fanatic is a rush in itself.  I'm all fired up and raring to
go now that our rain-plagued winter is nearing its end.   Any thoughts and
comments will be graciously received.

Thanking you all very much in advance.

garyth

E-Mail: harris@cs.sun.ac.za
Normal: Dept. Computer Science,
        Stellenbosch University,
        Stellenbosch 7600,
        South Africa
Tel:    02231-774605
FAX:    02231-774416
From: jrb@Ingres.COM (John Black)
Subject: What's the reason for the SBR event ordering?
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: na
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:24:25 GMT

A friend and I were discussing this recently, but neither of us could figure
out why the standard triathlon event ordering is Swim-Bike-Run.  It sure seems
like putting the run first would help alleviate those crowding problems at the
starting line (which you get with mass swim starts).  We surmised that the swim
comes first because organizers didn't want athletes dying (literally) during the
swim if they were already exhausted.  Is this correct?  And why then Bike-Run
instead of Run-Bike?

Tinley's book mentions early events where the order was sometimes different
(and often had a livlier mixture like Run-Swim-Bike-Swim-Run), but does not
explain why Swim-Bike-Run is now standard.  Anyone know?

john//
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: chapman@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Larry Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Does distance=speed?
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:48:46 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

> Hey Tri-Geeks,

I resemble that remark!

> Does distance equal speed?

Nope.

> "How can I get fast?", someone asked Eddy Merckx.  He replied, "Ride lots."

Never trust  coaching  from a very gifted  athlete.  They really don't need
coaches.


> Would Mark Allen tell us to, "Swim lots, ride lots, and run lots."

Only if you first "Swam a little, rode a little, ran a little" then "Swam some,
rode some, ran some" etc. etc. etc.

> Would our bodies tell us to, "Sleep and eat lots."

If you're lucky.

> Would our doctor tell us to, "Rest, Ice, Compress, and Elevate."

You forgot "Ibuprofen'ate"!!

> Would our employers tell us, "Get lost."

"Athletic Scholarships" in the workplace.  Yea!  That's the ticket!

> Would I ask myself as I set out on a 100-mile ride followed by a 18-mile
> run, "Am I overtraining?"

Ironman.  A race or a sickness?

-- LSC
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: chrisl@stpaul.gov (Chris A Lyman)
Subject: Re: Nice Tri on TV
Organization: City of Saint Paul Public Works
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:37:02 GMT

tjensen@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (todd.r.jensen) writes:

> My brother was telling me he saw the Nice Triathlon on TV over the
> weekend (on ESPN, I think).  Did anyone else see it?  Mark Allen kicked
> some butt on the 30K run!  And two months before the race he broke his
> collarbone.

The coverage was pretty good, except that the only two women mentioned were
Wendy Ingraham (first out of the water) and Paula Newby-Fraser (the winner).
The part that really made my skin crawl was the inclusion of the oft-used/
abused "O Fortuna" song from Carl Orff's Carmina Burana.  Gack.  What's
next, "O Fortuna" in the soundtrack for golf videos?

-- 
Chris Lyman                    /  Due to circumstances beyond your
email: chrisl@pwcs.stpaul.gov  /  control, you are master of your
#include <std.disclaimers.h>   /  fate and captain of your soul.
From: fkao@buengf.bu.edu (Frank Kao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Speed Improvement Training
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:09:22 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: fkao@buengf.bu.edu

Hi netlanders, I have a few questions to all of you on the subject on
training techniques to improve speed and endurance.  My main objective   
is to improve my speed on the bike, I like distance riding, however, in
the last few years even though my speed have improved, but I think it
can be better.

Question #1:  I heard of interval training on both running and biking,
  anybody have any guide lines on doing this?  Can I safely say run intervals
  earily in the morning, and ride intervals in the night?  Do I do each
  on consecutive days?

Question #2:  How much distance riding should I do, I have already over 1500
  miles riding for the season, is this a good base for the interval training
  should I limit the distance riding I do and concentrate on the intercal
  training for the next few weeks, get the speed up and then do the distance
  riding?

Question #3:  How long does it take before I can see some results from teh
  the different training?

Your inputs are appreciated!
fkao


Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: todmh@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (Darcie Hammer)
Subject: Re: What's the reason for the SBR event ordering?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: 26 Aug 1992 07:33 EDT  

In article <1992Aug25.225237.23479@inel.gov>, dpe@inel.gov (Don Palmrose) writes...
>In article <1992Aug25.212425.4806@pony.Ingres.COM>, jrb@Ingres.COM (John Black) writes:
>> 
>> A friend and I were discussing this recently, but neither of us could figure
>> out why the standard triathlon event ordering is Swim-Bike-Run.  It sure seems
>> like putting the run first would help alleviate those crowding problems at the
>> starting line (which you get with mass swim starts).  We surmised that the swim
>> comes first because organizers didn't want athletes dying (literally) during the
>> swim if they were already exhausted.  Is this correct?  And why then Bike-Run
>> instead of Run-Bike?
>> 
>> Tinley's book mentions early events where the order was sometimes different
>> (and often had a livlier mixture like Run-Swim-Bike-Swim-Run), but does not
>> explain why Swim-Bike-Run is now standard.  Anyone know?
>> 
>> john//
>> 
>> 
> 
>It was realize that to have a swim not at the first of the three invited an
>increase danger of drowining due to fatigue.  If you *bonk* on the run, you
>can step to the side and sit down.  Bonking on the swim could be potentially
>more dangerous also, the race organizers might have to pay even higher 
>insurance premiums.
> 
>Just my $0.02 worth.
> 
>Don Palmrose
> 
> 

..and mass starts or sprint finishes on the bike can be pretty dangerous,
even for pure cyclists; imagine us dorky triathletes wrecking into each 
other!



Darcie, the perpetually injured and suddenly unmotivated one.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: tanski@gnpike.enet.dec.com (Robert Tanski)
Subject: tt bike opinions
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  2 SEP 92 16:32:32    


    It's time for that age old question again but I think it needs to be
    asked because of the constantly advancing technology.  What constitutes
    a triathlon/tt type bike?  It seems that at the races I have been going to 
    lately I've been noticing the bikes are getting smaller?  The frames? 
    The wheel sizes?  Of course the aero equipment is all pretty much
    standard these days as has been, but what about the basic bike?


bob tanski
From: reidyj@CS.ORST.EDU (Jay Reidy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
Subject: Re: Glycerol & sweating
Keywords: gross, poison, better_living_through_chemistry
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:10:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Oregon State University


  Funny you should mention it.  When I lived in the south, people used to
  put sugar... by thetons.. in thier iced tea. Ugh!  When I asked why, in
  god's name they wanted to ruin good tea like that, the response I got was
  to help with heat acclimation.

  Sugar and glycerine are nearly idendical, so maybe ther's something to it.
  My response is purely anecdotal, but the data seem to support the theory.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.triathlon
From: redmondd@unix1.tcd.ie (Judge Raz)
Subject: Response about swim books
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:15:34 GMT

I tried to email this guy but it didn't reach him.
Decided to post it here. Books may also be of use
to others trying to improve their swimm times.

To: garyth@sun.ac.za

In rec.sport.triathlon you write:

>My questions are:
>1)  how should I go about including swim training in my training schedule?
>    Are there any texts to which I can refer for further enlightment?

Anything by James "Doc" Counsilman, Ph.D will be well worth reading. He is
probably the most respected swim coach in the US, if not the world. Also,
'Swimming Faster' by Ernest W. Maglischo is very good on tecnical aspects
and also how to train for different types of events (sprint, distance, etc.).

Hope this helps,

Judge Raz
From: 11mwarner@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: "Real American" Lyrics
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:45:30 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University



DISCLAIMER:  This is *not* for me!

Could anyone E-mail me the lyrics to "Real American"?  As long as you're at it, 
(This is for me) can you send me any "mock" lyrics to that?  I remember a
couple on the net last year but I forgot them.  Thanks a lot.

						PSYCHO

11MWARNER@galluj.gallaudet.edu
11MWARNER@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Effective Friday, August 28)

A .sig file?  Puhleeze!  I don't need those pigeon droppings at the bottom of a 
post!
From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WCW, Watss
Keywords: I mean Watts, anyways, what is he doind?
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:04:03 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


  Sorry about the subject line typos, but what is Watts doing?  If rumors
are true (from what I've heard on the net), forcing the Steiners to job and
take pay cuts?
  Watts wants to get back to the "old style" of wrestling.  If that means:

   A) Back in the days when a entire match consisted mainly of brawling,
   with an actual wrestling move or two in the match.  Finishing moves were
   dropkicks and bodyslams. If so, yes get rid of the Steiners.  Also get rid
   of Brian Pillman, and tell Steamboat to only do chops.  Keep hiring the likes
   of Dick Murdoch and others who do no moves but brawl.  

   
   B)  Matches where there is more fan appeal due to moves than showmanship.
   If this is it, keep the Steiners.  While I have only limited experience
   watching Japanese (mostly Liger, Muta,  & whoever challenges the Steiners
   on certain PPV's) I would say that the Steiners, particularly Scott, are
   the most exciting team to watch, move for move.  If you want to watch a
   match that looks like guys are really wrestling and you have a lot of
   moves, you watch the Steiners.

  IMHO, losing the Steiners would be a terrible blow to WCW, possibly for
wrestling in general.  In the WWF, they won't do as much (when a wrestler goes
to the WWF, their number of moves decrease).  If WCW wants to draw large numbers
of fans of all ages without becoming a circus like the WWF, it needs to keep
the Steiners and get more wrestlers like them.  Steve Williams & Gordy may be
tough, but since their re-appearance in WCW, neither one has done any move
that has made me sit up and take notice (maybe Williams slam finish - one move,
big deal).  But the Steiners could be the future of wrestling.  A team or a
wrestler that spends the match kicking a punching his opponent with one or 
two "wrestling" moves is just a boring as watching the circus of the WWF.

  Watts better realize his preferred wrestling, the days of brawling, should
be weeded out of wrestling.  Don't bring back rasslin', bring WRESTLING.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: yonatan@csri.toronto.edu (Gary Will)
Subject: Re: Marty Janetty and NAMBLA
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 30 Aug 92 11:28:46 GMT

In article <9208292251.AA21586@rachael.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:
>Don Becker writes: 
>> [Garbage deleted]
>
>This is the second or third time I've heard this rumor 

The last time it was posted, it came from no higher authority
than Phil Stromer himself.  Don has kindly allowed us to relive
a part of those memorable times (February). 

--Gary Will
From: ventura@camelot.bradley.edu (Brian Wawczak)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Rich Mancuso and the NAWA
Summary: ?
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:24:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Bradley University

Does anybody know whether or not Rich Mancuso's interest in the NAWA was
the downfall of his wrestling radio show with Jody Mac of WFAN?

Is the NAWA still in existence?

--
ventura@camelot.bradley.edu  

"I'm a 60 minute man, and I'm ALL night long! WOOOOOO!!!"
        - "The Real World's Heavyweight Champion"(tm)  Ric Flair
 
QUIT
m)  Ric Flair
 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: where are they now
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:13:27 GMT

In <9208271839.AA21122@tyrell.CFSMO.Honeywell.COM> ottoh3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Otto Heuer #3) writes:


>Mike Jenkinson writes:

>> beninsd@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>> 
>> >Where are they now? Jimmy Snuka; Dick Murdoch;David Sammartino (who cares?)

>> Dick Murdock is back in WCW, he's teaming with Barbarian and Greg
>> Valentine. He and Barbarian were the last (literally) US tag champs.
>> Now he and Greg are teaming...they're called the Oldtimers. :)

>Okay... then where is Dick Slater?  :-)

Ok, OK, you're right. I messed up. (Which is why *I* don't do the
FAQ!)

When the two Dicks were teaming up as the Hardliners, it always amused
me that if they were in the WWF, Vince would've made one of 'em change
their name, considering they are both "Dick". After all, this is the
federation that had, as a Survivor Series Team, The Ultimate Warrior,
The Modern-Day Warrior (Kerry Von E.), and the Road Warriors, but made
the last three change their names to eliminate the Warrior part, as we
can't confuse the little kiddies by having too many Warriors running
around.

Anyway, nice to see someone keeps me honest. :)

Michael
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: Terry.Baldridge@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Terry Baldridge)
Subject: Re: Flair on TBS with WWF belt?
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:14:06 GMT

In article <wuZJqB5w164w@jaflrn.UUCP> Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:
> 
>Simple. At the time, Flair OWNED (literally) the NWA title. WCW sued, 
>--Don
>| Don Becker:         grendel@jaflrn.uucp | over all our lands. And as we   |

Ok, this is the second time in less than a week I have seen literally
used correctly in this group.  People are going to get the wrong
idea about us you keep this up.

terry
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: Wrestling TidBits   -   08/27
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:53:54 GMT

>    Anyway, Hayes came out as a manager for Eaton and Anderson in their
>    match versus the Steiners for "the #1 challengers for the world
>    titles". The big surprise here of course was that the Steiners 
>    did the job. Hayes had a really good interview after the win and
>    ripped into Gordy.
>
>
>
>-- 
>BRANCH, MICHAEL 
>Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
>uucp:      ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!mb20
>Internet: mb20@prism.gatech.edu
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: SNES Wrestlemania game...
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 00:35:13 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

price@uclapp.physics.ucla.edu (John Price) writes:

> Hey all...
> 
> I have a chance to get the SNES version of WWF Wrestlemania for $35 (minus 
> registration card, but with docs).  Is it worth it?  How does this thing 
> play?  I'm rapidly becoming a Street Fighter II fanatic, so that type of 
> game does appeal to me...
> 
 
From what I've heard, SNES WM is a good graphic game, but it moves
very slowly. It has something to do with the SNES coprocessor or
something, but it amazes me that they pulled off SF2. 
 
Also, could some kind soul tell me if a .sig file is following my posts?
I never get a chance to see it.
 
--Don
 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Predictions
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 13:48:08 GMT

OK...seeing as it appears Savage kept his belt at Summerslam...and
seeing that someone else posted the rumor that Savage will lose the
belt to Flair this week at a TV taping...the question now becomes, who
will beat Flair for the title? (Provided he wins it)

How 'bout....Hulk Hogan?

Vince still hasn't had the definative Flair-Hogan match to determine
the "real" world champion. If Flair becomes champ again, it will make
a better promotional match than if Hogan was champ, because Hogan
challenging for the title is always a better draw than Hogan defending
the title.

Flair-Hogan for all the marbles at WMIX?

And....1993 will mark the 10th anniversary of Starrcade.

It would be nice if WCW would remember the occassion by doing not
only a retrospective, but promoting the Supercard to end all
Supercards (which would be a gift in itself!)

Since there's now an NWA champion again, why not an NWA-WCW champ
unification match? Depending on who the champions are (read: anyone
but Simmons and Chono) it could be a fantastic match to unify two
"world titles". Promotionally, it would put a dent in Flair's "real
world champion" crap seeing as both his belt and his title would
belong to someone else.

Just some random thoughts.

Anyone know what kind of promotional push the Headhunters (aka, Samoan
Swat Team) are going to get in the WWF? Are they slated for the tag
belts?

Michael
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: bdwest@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (PANTERRA)
Subject:  Clash Predicts  
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  1 Sep 1992 13:52 EST  


Simmons vs Cactus Jack - Simmons wins, but Simmons will get pummelled by 
Cactus and Snake afterward.

Stings team vs Heel team - Stings team after an 8 man brawl after the Faces 
sacrifical lamb crawls back to the corner for the tag just in time.

Steamboat and Austin for TV title - I'd like to see Creamboat get it just 
because I am sick of seeing Austin with it.  The World belt changes hands 
more ofter than the TV belt for heavens sake.  I think Austin will retain 
due to a Screw job with a big time run in from parties on both sides at the 
end.  This will be the highlight of the match.

Pillman vs Armstrong - Don't know

JBB vs Scotty Flamingo - Don't know or care, I think these 2 are fighting.

Can't recall any others

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