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From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Hot-key to kill WPS?
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 04:16:45 GMT

Timothy F. Sipples (sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:

> However, for better or worse, Microsoft has redefined CTRL-ALT-DEL
> (although they probably weren't the first).  

Well, DesqView redefined CTRL-ALT-DEL quite a while ago. I found it
EXTREMELY useful. It is redefined in such a way that you can still argue
that its function has not changed - it reboots the machine. In the DV case
(and WinEnh I presume) it reboots the _virtual_ machine, thus killing the
app. DV allows CTRL-SHIFT-METABUCKEY-DEL (can't remember offhand) to reboot
the physical machine.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Christoph Weber-Fahr [KIT])
Subject: Can't run Trident drivers 
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 15:44:08 GMT

Hello,

I am totally out of Ideas to get the new trident drivers running.

My System: A plain vanilla 386/40 with Trident 9000 card and NEC Multisync II
           OS/2 2.0 GA+SP, Novell Requestor+NSD201+NSD202 (=Security Update)
          
Problem: When booting with new drivers, the System hangs with blinking cursor 

I got the tri32new.zip from hobbes. I installed 640*480*256
exactly as described there. I also tried 800*600*256, with same effect.
I also archived every trident related postings here and tried everything
described there.
The SVGADATA.PMI was created from a DOS booted from floppy.
When I replace the ibmdev32.dll with the original, the system runs
again, but winos2 (with the trident driver) has the problem of disappearing
mouse cursor when switching to the session).

Any Ideas out there ?

Some postings mentioned a more recent driver update (trid.update.exe ??),
but I couldn't find any, neither on Hobbes nor on Watson. Was it removed?
Can I find it elsewhere ?

My config.sys has an entry device=c:\os2\mdos\vsvga.sys, which is mentioned
nowhere. Is that correct ?

Any help is gratefully appreciated!

Regards

Christoph Weber-Fahr


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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: seemless window support
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:25:08 GMT
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <1992Dec23.085954.10373@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> porteous@cory.Berkeley.EDU (PORTEOUS IAN) writes:
>does 2.1 or the csd provide support for svga seemless windows ???

The Service Pak provides seamless Win-OS/2 support for Tseng
4000-based SuperVGA adapters.  The OS/2 2.1 beta extends that support
to numerous other SuperVGA adapters.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jbradsh2@grumpy.helios.nd.edu (jonathan bradshaw)
Subject: How to recreate clock object (can't find find on hobbes)
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 04:11:04 GMT

Well, yep, I erased a folder with my clock object... So, I need to get it
back. There used to be a program called WPS something that would recreate
objects but I've searched hobbes and can't find it. I grepped the 00Index
for WPS and it doesn't show up. Anyone remember the filename of this
utility?

Secondly, the reason I erased it was that TWO copies of the folder were on
my desktop... silly me figured I had accidently copied it. I erased one folder
and of course... BOTH went. The second one was NOT a shadow!

Sometimes OS/2 bugs me... or is that BUGS in Os/2 sometimes me?

Thanks

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jhesse@netcom.com (John Hesse)
Subject: Re: SimEarth won't run after SP.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:57:11 GMT


Is there any magic that can bring SimLife to life under OZ?
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From: gordt@cyberspc.muug.mb.ca (Gord Tulloch)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: CMS 250 for OS/2
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 04:35:15 GMT
Summary: Works fine for me. 
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Cyberspace Online Information System
Keywords: CMS JUMBO 250

In article <1992Dec31.202822.1@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu> cvetp036@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu writes:
>I need some info concerning the new CMS tape backup program for OS/2.
>
>I have a CMS 250 attached to my floppy controller.
>
>Now will the Sytos software work or do I need a dedicated card like the FC-10?
>
>I don't care if I have to format my tape as Sytos compatible only. I won't be
>mixing DOS and OS/2 files anyway. I just need a way to back up all my files on
>my OS/2 HPFS partition in the background under OS/2.
>
>

I downloaded the software (after passing on my VISA number to CMS) and it seems
to work fine.  All I need are some larger tapes.

It's timed backup works well as well - surprised me tonight when the tape drive
started up!

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From: lowey@jester.usask.ca (CrazyMan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Did microsoft really write an OS/2 "Terminator" crash prog?
Date: 30 Dec 1992 06:41:10 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jester.usask.ca
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

oecn_smith@mec.ohio.gov wrote:
: In article <laird.725643909@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu>, laird@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) writes:
: > shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr) writes:
: > 
: > I'd sure love some simple security that would keep people from deleting
: > files like config.sys.  I thought that something like that was available
: > for OS/2, but I can't recall.
: > 
: > --kyler
: 
: Hmmm, I must be simpleminded, but setting permission to read-only should keep
: the casual user from doing to much harm.
: 
: bob - smith@leeca.oecn.ohio.gov

That will work.  Also, don't forget about the ALT-F1 trick when booting your
computer.  That will copy the CONFIG.SYS, and .INI files from the /OS2/INSTALL
directory back to the proper place.  So, if someone deleted CONFIG.SYS 
you just ALT-F1 when you boot up, and it's back again.  

Here's the actual quote from the OS/2 README file:

======================================================================
Warning:  This procedure removes any desktop
          customization done since installing
          the operating system.

1.  Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart the
    computer.
2.  Before the OS/2 Logo panel appears, hold
    down Alt+F1 for 20 seconds.

The current versions of the CONFIG.SYS, OS2.INI,
and OS2SYS.INI files are renamed and replaced by
the default installation versions in the
\OS2\INSTALL subdirectory.  If you have a
STARTUP.CMD file, it also is renamed.  This
deactivates the startup feature.
======================================================================

I suppose you could replace the relevant files in these directories with
later versions, so that once you have the system running correctly, you
could go back to that version of the system, instead of the default 
installation.

- Kevin Lowey (Lowey@Sask.USask.CA)
>>>>> Anonymous FTP to FTP.USASK.CA for DOS, OS/2, and Windows programs <<<<<

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: roelle@uars_mag.jhuapl.edu (Curtis Roelle)
Subject: Re: Did microsoft really write an OS/2 "Terminator" crash prog?
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:37:51 GMT

lowey@jester.usask.ca (CrazyMan) writes:

>oecn_smith@mec.ohio.gov wrote:
>: In article <laird.725643909@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu>, laird@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Kyler Laird) writes:
>: > shurr@cbnews.cb.att.com (larry.a.shurr) writes:
>: > 
>: > I'd sure love some simple security that would keep people from deleting
>: > files like config.sys.  I thought that something like that was available
>: > for OS/2, but I can't recall.
>: > 
>: > --kyler
>: 
>: Hmmm, I must be simpleminded, but setting permission to read-only should keep
>: the casual user from doing to much harm.
>: 
>: bob - smith@leeca.oecn.ohio.gov

>That will work.  Also, don't forget about the ALT-F1 trick when booting your
>computer.  That will copy the CONFIG.SYS, and .INI files from the /OS2/INSTALL
>directory back to the proper place.  So, if someone deleted CONFIG.SYS 
>you just ALT-F1 when you boot up, and it's back again.  

>Here's the actual quote from the OS/2 README file:

>======================================================================
>Warning:  This procedure removes any desktop
>          customization done since installing
>          the operating system.

>1.  Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart the
>    computer.
>2.  Before the OS/2 Logo panel appears, hold
>    down Alt+F1 for 20 seconds.

>The current versions of the CONFIG.SYS, OS2.INI,
>and OS2SYS.INI files are renamed and replaced by
>the default installation versions in the
>\OS2\INSTALL subdirectory.  If you have a
>STARTUP.CMD file, it also is renamed.  This
>deactivates the startup feature.
>======================================================================

>I suppose you could replace the relevant files in these directories with
>later versions, so that once you have the system running correctly, you
>could go back to that version of the system, instead of the default 
>installation.

>- Kevin Lowey (Lowey@Sask.USask.CA)
>>>>>> Anonymous FTP to FTP.USASK.CA for DOS, OS/2, and Windows programs <<<<<

I expect that technique is how the "uninstallation" of the Service Pack
changes are implemented (to return your system to its prior status
before installing the service pack).  The following quote is from
the "OS/2 2.0 Service Pak (10/92) - README" ...
________________________________________________________________
  
          Many customers are aware of the ALT+F1
          key sequence to restore a desktop to its
          original state. After installing this
          Service Pak, ALT+F1 will return your
          system to its state as it was
          immediately before the Service Pak was
          installed.
_________________________________________________________________
Curt roelle@sigi.jhuapl.edu 

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin)
Subject: Re: More CD-ROM questions.
Organization: University of Maine, Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 02:23:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.144439.8217@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> cjones@nyx.cs.du.edu (Charles J. Jones) writes:
>Earlier I posted asking advice on getting my Future Domain 850 SCSI controller
>driver working happily under OS/2.  Thanks to the advice of several persons 
>here I achieved that goal.  Now I have a different problem.
>
>When I cold-boot the system, after the OS/2 title screen, the config.sys
>reports "No SCSI devices found".  The SCSI driver (for a FD 850) has been 
>correctly loaded, but for some reason it can't find the CD-ROM on the SCSI 
>chain.  Now if I immediately shutdown and warm-boot then the driver finds 
>the drive just fine!  So something is initializing something else somewhere.
>
>Is this something to do with the order of drivers in the CONFIG.SYS?  If
>so is there anywhere that I could find a reference that would explain how
>the CONFIG.SYS file should be ordered?  I wish IBM had put in better 
>documentation!

No, I don't think so.  I have a tape drive that takes about 60 seconds to
cycle through its POST.  In the mean time, it seems to have an adverse
affect on booting OS/2 and loading the Sytos tape drivers.  I added a 60
second delay to the boot manager (which I was using anyway) and have had
no problems.  You may be experiencing something similar, in that your
CDROM drive may not be ready for OS/2...if you could turn on your CD
before or introduce a delay in the cold boot sequence...

Jeff



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Buglet in 'migrate applications'
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 08:29:03 GMT

I have had problems with various PM programs through several versions of OS/2
(GA, beta, SP, b2.1). I had put it down to buggy shareware....which may still
be the case.
 
The latest example is this: 

I migrated a program called MAGNIFY.EXE to the desktop. The first time I ran
it, I got the little magnifying glass and the viewing window just fine (you
can save what you magnify as a .bmp file if you want).
 
The second time I tried to run it when I double-cliccked on the Magnify icon
all I got was the Window List......
 
I happened to be on the phone at the time to my local IBM rep and he said it
worked fine for him.....must be my non-IBM hardware :-). I asked him how he
had installed it on his machine and he said he did NOT use the migrate
applications....
 
So....I dragged a program templat on to th desktop and installed it that way
(giving drive:\path\program.nam).
 
It runs just fine now. I had the same problem with PMGlobe32 on the GA
version.....but installed using the templates it works just fine! I now recall
several programs i have junked because of this.... 
 
There is obviously some sort of problem with the Migrate Applications function
and OS/2 progams.....or the programs cause MigApp some sort of heart-ache. 
 
Steve
 
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From: Ed.June@iphase.infoserv.com (Ed June)
Sender: FredGate@iphase.infoserv.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: UUPC W ?
Date: 26 Dec 92  18:41:06 EST

Shouldn't there be docs for the W release of the Kendra WonderWorks UUPC?
I have the executables & source, but no docs.
I don't see any docs/examples for the dos nor OS/2 components.
Is the doc files available?
I'm currently using the V docs & examples.

I need a dial up source, no ~ftp here...
*8^(



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From: jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: XGA-2 Clarification
Date: 22 Dec 92 18:50:17 GMT
Organization: University of Maine, Department of Computer Science

In article <1992Dec22.172815.29868@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <1992Dec19.062358.362@netcom.com> samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore) writes:
>>pathak@mitre.org (Heeren Pathak) writes:
>>
>>>supports bus mastering.  I didn't even think that bus mastering was
>>>possible on the ISA bus but it looks like Radius figured out how to do it. 
>>
>>Or rather, INMOS did, as they are the maker of the chipset used (and by the 
>>way, Radius is not the only one comeing out with an XGA board).
>
>It sounds to me like the price difference may be a product of INMOS,
>then.  After all IBM doesn't have to license an MCA bus-master chipset
>from anyone.  Radius is licensing an ISA bus-master chipset from
>INMOS.

Not that I know anything for sure (so flame and correct me if I'm wrong)
but it seems stupid that INMOS actually did the bus-mastering or the
microchannel interfacing part of the board.  I would guess (knowing
INMOS's other lines -- the transputer and the G3000) that INMOS only
made the graphics part of the whole deal.  I would guess that IBM and 
Radius are adding the required interface hardware for Microchannel and 
ISA bus-mastering.  Although from a mail message from someone else
here on the net, IBM hired INMOS to do the work for the graphics
chip.  Evidently a lot of the info was printed in some issues of EE-Times.
I am going to check out the library for old EE-Times issues to see
what they have...

In the mean time...flame on, if I'm way off base.

Jeff


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: seiferth@bandelier.cs.unm.edu (Justin Seiferth)
Subject: Boot Manager and 2 Disks
Summary: Can't boot off 2nd disk 
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of New Mexico
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 20:58:30 GMT

I have a two SCSI disk system.  Disk 0 has boot manager and OS/2.  Disk
1 has a (formerly) bootable UNIX system installed in a primary partition.
I installed the UNIX partition in the boot manager menu but when I attempt
to boot off it, I get an error: "boot: no active partition on disk".

Now, FDISK recognizes the partition on the second disk as bootable  and a
primary partition but doesn't assign a drive letter because of the file
system type (UFS).

Is there a way to get boot manager to boot off the second disk/partition
without having to reinstall my entire system on a single disk?  

Hoping you can help...
Justin
From: rvaniwaa@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Ronald J. Vaniwaarden)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 beta to be released 12-28 to EVERYONE!!
Date: 23 Dec 92 03:45:37 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1992Dec22.203941.27754@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert) writes:
>
>I just called the order desk, and they said the beta code is only
>available on CD-ROM.  How can I get the floppies?

Well, someone who works for IBM just left a message on my BBS stating that
the 2.1 BETA will be available in 3.5 inch disk images after the 28th.  This
could just be a rumor but I doubt it.  Also, on c.o.o.a., I saw that the
BETA was to include a fax applet!!!  If someone could confirm or deny this,
I would appreciate it.  I hope to have the beta in a week or so from an
IBMer so that I can find out for myself.

--Ronald Van Iwaarden
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bhenning@wimsey.bc.ca (Bill Henning)
Subject: Re: NEC Express CDR 25
Organization: Wimsey Information Services
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:10:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.031443.11605@vedge.com> hendrik@vedge.com (Hendrik Boom) writes:
>Real soon now, I expect to be getting the DAP CD.
>I'd like to prepare for it by buying a CD-ROM drive.
>Locally available is a thing called the "NEC Express",
>which comes with device drivers for DOS.  The salesman *thinks*
>there is an OS/2 driver for it, but does not know
>for sure.  IBM informs me that the NEC CDR 84 and NEC CDR 74
>are on their list of drives they know to work, and that other drives
>may well work too.  The drive in the "NEC Express" is,
>however, a NEC CDR 25.
>
>Does anyone know if this drive works with the OS/2 DAP disk?
>And does anyone know where to obtain the driver?
>
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Try one or more of the following addresses to reply.
>at work:	hendrik@vedge.com,  iros1!vedge!hendrik
>at home:	uunet!ozrout!topoi!hendrik

There are drivers for many non-ibm cdrom drives available on
the OS2 BBS (IBM - at least the vancouver one at 604-664-6464)
including specific support for NEC 36/74/84, which *may* work
with the CDR25. The card supplied with the NEC Express package
is a Trantor 130B (or at least the one I saw identified itself
as such) for which drivers were posted on comp.binaries.os2 a
while ago. Let me know if it works (it probably should, I would
think NEC would make its drive compatible with its other drives)
as I may get the same package.

Bill
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: b259phl@utarlg.uta.edu (PHILIP LIPPEL)
Subject: Re: leave OS/2 running - the monitor too?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 01:56:00 GMT

> This is true with all computer equipment BTW. Switching a machine on and
> off does really bad things to your system, *on a long term basis*. Most
> users don't have the ability to buy a power conditioner and surge protector.
> 
>>O.k. now, but what about the monitor? Would it be advisable to
>>switch off the monitor overnight (assuming that one does not work
>>overnight...)?
> 
> Hmm, I wouldn't do that, for the same reason. BTW, if you are going to
> switch the monitor off, why not shut down the CPU too?

Well most of us turn our TV's on and off on a daily basis and their lifetime
seems pretty reasonable to me. Monitors are much the same as TV's
, and I treat mine the same way.
 CPU's? I don't know anybody who has had the CPU on his PC fail, at
least not before same CPU became obsolete in the sense that it could be replaced
with a faster, more capable model for a very small amount of money. It is DISKS
that are the problem. DISKS DO fail, and unfortunately for those of us who would
like to be energy-conscious, they seem to fail more often if they are turned 
on and off than if they are left on continuously. Presumably this is because the
spin up/spin down operations are much harder on the bearings than continuous
rotation (or some similar effect). 
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