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From: 00gdwessel@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Image Question: How do you subscribe to Image
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:45:35 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <lsmith.718414043@giga>, lsmith@giga.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
> In <1992Oct6.165755.10144@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00gdwessel@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Oct2.124509.19@kirk.msoe.edu>, narlochn@kirk.msoe.edu writes:
>>> I am sorry for asking a minor question such as this, but:
>>> 
>>> How do you subscribe to Image Comics?
>>> Or isn't there a way to do it.
>>> -- 
>>I don't believe there is one.....
> 
> Probably not. The big problem is that up until now most of the Image titles 
> have been mini-series. They have runs about four issues each. Not much
> sense subscribing to a mini-series.
> 
> (I could make a snide comment about Image's ability to match its schedule, but
> why bother.)
> 
>>But while we're on the subject, as well as the Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore
>>issues, there is a rumor that DAVE SIM is doing a _Spawn_ issue....
> 
>>Any comments???   Being a TRUE _Cerebus_ fan, i obviously NEED TO KNOW!!!
> 
> OK, being a true Cerebus fan you probably read in #161 how Sim was doing a
> Cerespawn picture. That came out in issue #4 of Spawn. Look in the back.
> It's a good bit of work. Nicely colored. Nice cape.

Yes, I did see that....


"Cerebus feels like a fool"


Pure Sim....

> 
> According to Gaiman, Sim will be doing the third part of the "trilogy." So
> the tentative schedule is Moore does #8, Gaiman does #9 and Sim does #10.
> There's also a chance that Frank Miller will do an issue. He's doing a Spawn
> pin-up for issue #8 for sure, but he also might write an issue. Might be #11.
>           
> Yes, we were all very surprised.


Maybe that should say something about _Spawn_.  Hey, any book that opens up
with a "heart in hand" splash page gets my vote.  :)
> --
>      Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
>          (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
>  "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
>     all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"
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From: lsmith@giga.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Image Question: How do you subscribe to Image Co
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:27:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1992Oct6.165755.10144@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00gdwessel@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:

>In article <1992Oct2.124509.19@kirk.msoe.edu>, narlochn@kirk.msoe.edu writes:
>> I am sorry for asking a minor question such as this, but:
>> 
>> How do you subscribe to Image Comics?
>> Or isn't there a way to do it.
>> -- 
>I don't believe there is one.....

Probably not. The big problem is that up until now most of the Image titles 
have been mini-series. They have runs about four issues each. Not much
sense subscribing to a mini-series.

(I could make a snide comment about Image's ability to match its schedule, but
why bother.)

>But while we're on the subject, as well as the Neil Gaiman and Alan Moore
>issues, there is a rumor that DAVE SIM is doing a _Spawn_ issue....

>Any comments???   Being a TRUE _Cerebus_ fan, i obviously NEED TO KNOW!!!

OK, being a true Cerebus fan you probably read in #161 how Sim was doing a
Cerespawn picture. That came out in issue #4 of Spawn. Look in the back.
It's a good bit of work. Nicely colored. Nice cape.

According to Gaiman, Sim will be doing the third part of the "trilogy." So
the tentative schedule is Moore does #8, Gaiman does #9 and Sim does #10.
There's also a chance that Frank Miller will do an issue. He's doing a Spawn
pin-up for issue #8 for sure, but he also might write an issue. Might be #11.

Yes, we were all very surprised.
--
     Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
         (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
 "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
    all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"
From: michaelb@cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Space:1999 and early Byrnes
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:23:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <BvAIG7.F1q@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> burdickd@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Dakin Burdick) writes:
>I've got a copy of Space:1999 no. 6 from Charlton (c1976).  Both
>the interior and cover are by Byrnes.  I know he worked on Doomsday+1,
>but does anyone know if he did a lot of Space:1999 stuff?  The cover
>is really nice, that's why I ask.
>
Byrnes' first (?) professional work was for Charlton.  He did Doomsday+1
and most (all??) of Space:1999 (check Overstreet).  He also did Rog 2000 
which was a back-up in 2-3 E-Man's and some other stuff there.  The title
"wheelie and the chopper bunch" come to mind as another title he may have
worked on their.  He may have also done work on their horror/sf/war stuff
but I'm not sure.  Some of his stuff appeared in the Charlton fanzine
_Charlton Bullseye_ (NOT to be confused by the comic of the same name).
This fanzine was done by a group called 'CPL/Gang' which did a fanzine called
_CPL_.  This group included Layton and Byrne.

This is from memory.  I hope someone can fill the holes.





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From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Superman rebirth
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:21:21 GMT
	<1992Sep22.210426.10716@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
	<1992Sep23.010510.10143@leland.Stanford.EDU> <28434@life.ai.mit.edu>
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In-reply-to: daz@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu's message of 27 Sep 92 19:40:31 GMT

daz@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (David A. Z.) writes:
|>Supergirl certainly did exist and die. Crisis may have collapsed the parallel
|>universes, but it did not wipe out their histories.

|No!  Issues 1-10 of Crisis on Infinite Earths collapsed most of
|the parallel universes, but Issue 11 did EXACTLY what you're infering
|it didn't do... WIPE OF THE HISTORIES OF THE PRECRISIS CHARACTERS!

	   In issue 11 the antimoniter and heros of the the various earths
|traveled back to the beginning of time, had a nasty battle there, and
|in the process altered the histories of all creation.  

	   In the post-crisis DC universe, the pre-crisis DC character not
|only no longer exist, but they NEVER EXISTED!!  That was then entire
|point shown in the end of Crisis!

Yes, but isn't all this irrelevant ot the question of whether
Supergirl died and remained dead.  To wit:  they killed her in Crisis
#7.  She never came back, one way or the other.  Therefore she died.
Ditto for the Flash.
--
Peace.
      "I'm not going to sit at your table and watch you eat, with nothing on my
       plate, and call myself a diner. Sitting at the table doesn't make you a
       diner.  Being here in America doesn't make you an American."  
                                --Malcolm X
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-

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From: mkelly@goofus.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Subject: Best exit lines? 
Reply-To: mkelly@goofus.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:35:55 GMT

Well, it had to happen, r.a.c. is scheduled to be rmgrouped tomorrow. I
sincerely hope that all of us find our way to r.a.c.misc, and I hope
that we don't start seeing defunct posts being forwarded to r.a.c.misc
(a la Vidiot's posts on r.a.startrek.misc)

In my last attempt to participate in a non opinionated thread, does anyone
recall any particularly great/terrible/funny exit lines from comics? Try
as a might I can only remember Dr. Manhattan's "Nothing ever ends" and
Rorshack's "Go Ahead! DO IT!!!!"

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                  + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: RIP r.a.comics d. 9.30.92
Date: 1 Oct 1992 09:30:28 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: gumby.cs.caltech.edu

bn510@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew L. High) writes:


>Old newsgroups don't die, they just fade away...

>This makes post #73193 on this system.  Anyone have a higher 
>  number?  PS  When idd r.a.comics getr created - (for both
>  net.comics and r.a.comics, that is)?

>  - dead.net.spy!  (ag541@yfn.ysu.edu)

Gumby@Caltech
rec.arts.comics
Posting #83463

...hey, waitaminnit..!  Then THIS must be #83464!!

I WAS THE LAST ONE!!!!!!    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

...unless.. is that.... no.  it's, it's, i______________
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From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Superman pregnant....
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:37:30 CDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Sep30.011559.7375@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>      The discussion of Kryptonian reproduction and the possibility of asexual, 
> or even solo birthing brought a rather bizarre idea...

You're not kidding...

<stuff deleted>

>      Dave Van Domelen, Kryptonian Obstetrician

Okay, I'll cite the first update of WHO's WHO ('89 I think - could be
wrong).  As I recall it, Kryptonians reproduce the same way we do -
sorta.  In other words (new abreviation - "IOW"), it takes both male
and female.  However, the idea of organic childbirth fell out of
favor.  In the Byrne revision, the unborn child is taken from the
mother's body and put in a special machine (a creche? or is that from
UNCANNY X-MEN?).  Supes was sent to Earth in his creche and achieved
full "babyhood" along the way (i.e. - was at the same state as a
newborn human would be).  That's as I remember and understand it. 
Someone else may want to check on this (look under the entry on
"Krypton and Kryptonite")

                             -Drizzt (who wonders what self-respecting
                              Kryptonian school of medicine would give
                              Dave a degree when he doesn't even read
                              WHO'S WHO    :+)
 
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Jeff Barnes                   "Mike, if my father were alive today, you
Western Kentucky University          know what he'd say?"
BarneJD@WKUVX1.BITNET         "'Help, help, get me out of this coffin'?"
                                                  -SPIDER-MAN 2099 #1
My opinions are not necessarily those of WKU, but they should be!  :+)
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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Re: Image Comics
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:50:24 GMT

R39R000 <R39R@UNB.CA> writes:

>Don't know if the first message was sent but,

>Any comments about Image?

>I think Spawn and WildCATS are the best of the bunch.

I like Spawn.  I decided to pick it up because McFarlane's art
was so nifty when he was at Marvel (except for his later work
there.)  The art in Spawn is great.  I don't have any major
objections to the writing.

I tried the first issue of The Savage Dragon.  I was unimpressed.
Maybe the second issue will do more for me.

I haven't tried any other Image Comics.

Tom
From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: REBIRTHING THE BIG RED S
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:19:55 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <mkwVRB8w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>, sasha@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (David A. Tumarkin) writes:
> acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams) writes:
> 
>> In article <717257079.1@fquest.FidoNet> Omega.Man@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Omega M
>> >...Now, you have just been called in to replace Mike Carlin, Weezie Simonson
>> >Dan Jurgens, Brett Breeding, and everyone else who was responsible for deali
>> >the death-blow to Warner's #2 cash cow. However, before you can hire the
>> >artistic talents, you've been told to come up with a way to REALISTICALLY
>> >bring Kal-El back from where all Kryptonians went about 29 years ago.
> 
> To begin with, if I was in the ground floor of Supe's death, I'd have him 
> die on October 31 where the barriers twixt the two worlds are made more 
> permeable.  Having died in such a violent manner on All Hallow's Eve 
> would render Kal-El into a ghost (or a more easily retrievable spirit
> anyhow).  Wait and mourn one year and on the 1st anniversary of his 
> death (on Halloween) take a coven of noted magicians and poof! instant 
> resurrection of Warner's No. 2 cash cow.

Either that or have the Brotherhood of Evil (I think that's what
they're called - Titans villains) resurrect him while they're working
on Deathstroke.
-- 
************************************************************************
Jeff Barnes                   "Mike, if my father were alive today, you
Western Kentucky University          know what he'd say?"
BarneJD@WKUVX1.BITNET         "'Help, help, get me out of this coffin'?"
                                                  -SPIDER-MAN 2099 #1
My opinions are not necessarily those of WKU, but they should be!  :+)
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 28 Sep 1992 08:24:19 CDT
From: <U51115@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: Image Comics

In article <27SEP92.13845768.0039@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>, R39R000 <R39R@UNB.CA>
says:
>
>Don't know if the first message was sent but,
>
>Any comments about Image?
>
>I think Spawn and WildCATS are the best of the bunch.
>
>Jim Cyr.
>
   I have to totally agree with you on that. IMHO, I think Lee and McFarlane ar
e the two best artists today. Liefeld is pretty good but his drawings are a
little sketchy. As for the plots and stories, Lee is a better writer than McFar
lne and Liefeld and his characters are more interesting. Todd though has a futu
re for Spawn because he's really different and mysterious. When I started
Spawn I was really hooked, but he's just one character. What I like most about
Lee and his Wildcats are that none of them are Godlike like the X-MEN were with
Jean Grey and Wolverine. This is just MY opinion so don't flame me or get defen
sive.
From: heerdege@remus.rutgers.edu (juergen heerdegen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: limited image cards
Summary: limited image cards
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:38:01 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I was at a convention today and I saw one dealer with limited edition
Image cards.  There were three to a set, one Youngblood by Liefeld, one
Spawn by McFarlane and one Wildcats by Lee.  On the backs of the cards were
pictures of the creators and a short bio about them.  Also on the back was
a serial number.  Apparently, only 50,000 of these cards had been printed.
In addition, the dealer informed me that he had acquired them from someone 
who went to the big San Diego con, which, he assured me, was the only place
to find these cards.  Interestingly enough, the cards were made by some 
company which is now being sued by Image as they did not have permission
to use the characters.  At any rate, this is the story I heard and I'm
wondering if anyone can verify or dispel this rumor.  The cards were selling
for $25.00 each and I'm interested in the Spawn card.  However, if they're
really not that rare, I'll be damned if I'm going to pay that much for them.

-Juerg
heerdege@gandalf.rutgers.edu
From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: The Supergirl that never was (was Re: Superman rebirth)
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:29:16 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Sep30.010334.27024@tandem.com>, Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev) writes:
> In article <1992Sep24.223319.26095@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
 
> [Assertion: Supergirl did exist. . .sorta.  In any case, DC killed her.]
 
> [Assertion: Did Not.]
 
> [Assertion: Did Too!]

  [Assertion: Did not!]

> I look at it this way: this all started because I took exception to Carlin's
> assertion that "We don't know what happens when a Kryptonian dies." This is
> hogwash, of course, and the fact that Supergirl DID die (whether her
> existence is still "valid" by silly DC continuity rules is kind of besides the
> point) is only one reason why it's hogwash.  The only difference between the
> other Kryptonians we've seen die and Supes is that they were Much more 
> powerful.  Sigh.

Okay, here's my two pennies worth:
  1) Supergirl did not exist after CRISIS. _Did_ _not_ exist.  Her
"death" is meaningless as far as this discussion is concerned anyway,
because...
  2) Kryptonians are significantly different in the post-Crisis
universe.  Different society, different powers, etc.
  3) Perhaps the alleged "Kryptonian non-death" (if it exists) only
occurs when they have powers.  Or maybe off-planet (maybe there's a
mystic artifact on Krypton which draws the souls of dead Kryptonians
to it).
  4) I still like the "Eradicator revives Superman, who's actually in
a super healing coma (one heartbeat per day)" theory best  :+)

                                   -Drizzt
 
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Jeff Barnes                   "Mike, if my father were alive today, you
Western Kentucky University          know what he'd say?"
BarneJD@WKUVX1.BITNET         "'Help, help, get me out of this coffin'?"
                                                  -SPIDER-MAN 2099 #1
My opinions are not necessarily those of WKU, but they should be!  :+)
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From: bd112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig H. Rettig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: Re: spider-man 2099
Date: 27 Sep 1992 21:46:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Ok, Ok, It was actually pretty good.

Happy?

-- 
"I have come to the realization that I have been the chosen one
to receive the sacred gift to detect potato salad in any form.  I
can be a great access to any team. 'Hey guys!  That demon is NOT
made of potato salad!'" Potato Salad Man a.k.a. Me
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Latest Spawn
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:47:55 GMT

y'know I almost bought the Latest issue of Spawn for the Cerebus pin-up
in the back. It made me laugh (almost as much as McFarlane's writing).


remember I said almost!

----SCAVENGER

-- 
KAHN: And I never forget a face.  Mr. Chekov,   |  kogutt@ucsu.colorado.edu
           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
CHEKOV:  But, I wasn't in that episode!!!       | No matter where you go, there
     (from MST3K:The Wrath of Kahn)             |    you are."-Buckaroo Banzai 
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From: oakes@nmt.edu (David Oakes)
Subject: Re: Ganthet's Tale SPOILERS
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 17:26:08 GMT

In article <8ejtqbO00iUyI8=1lz@andrew.cmu.edu> Gregg Bradley Baimel <gb1r+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Any comments on it?  I found it to be an expensive way of not only
>negating the Anti-Monitor (remember Crisis (#10?) when he tries to *be*
>the now-mythical palm in the beginning?) but just, in general, being a
>very bad story.  

well, just my two cents worth, but since the death of superman
has caused such a stir over "what was crisis, how did it happen"
i would like to point out something:

crisis itself changed all of DC history RETROACTIVELY, reducing infinite
earths to only one, wiping out entire existances, and even transforming
ITSELF from "monitor saves five worlds" to "us vs the anti-monitor"

everything that has happened since the crisis has shown that the changes
are still happening (or, still sifting out of the retconns)
so the fact that the changes that the crisis created have now come full
circle, making its own existance meaningless!

post crisis, the "crisis" was only a minor skirmish, that accomplished nothing,
except to turn the skies red, and kill Don Hall (Dove I)
(though i suspect that the anti-monitor, if he even existed post crisis,
 is probably gone as well, until 2035...)

what gets me is no one even mentioned what all this means the the New Guardians
(and dont say "who?" - they're back in the latest green lantern)

dave "if you are read fiction for continuity, you WILL be disappointed" oakes
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From: cole@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Robert Cole)
Subject: Re: Batman v Superman
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:42:46 GMT

mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always) writes:

>bd112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig H. Rettig) writes:
>>
>>If you want a Bat/Supes battle that was pretty good, but not in
>>the mainstream, Read last year's Superman annual.  It was part of
>>the Armageddon 2001 storyline, and was actually a good story.
>>
>It was also, unless I'm very much mistaken, almost exactly copied from Frank
>Millar's Return of the Dark Knight (well, there are a couple of differences,
>but they're *very* similar indeed).

>Oh well, if a story's worth doing, it's worth doing several times over...:-)

I had assumed this was a backhanded way of saying that Miller's Dark
Knight was a possible future for the DC Universe.  Sort of saying that
it may or may not happen that way.

Robert Cole
From: superc@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu (Shawn E Chase)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics
Subject: comic convention in KC
Date: 27 Sep 1992 21:06:24 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu


does anyone out there have any information concerning the comic convention in
kansas city october 24th? I know Peter David is gonna be there (JOYJOYJOY) but i
dont know the location of the convention itself. Any replies by email will be
TREMENDOUSLY appreciated....

-- 
Shawn E. Chase             "Live like you'll die tomorrow,
SuperC@Matt.KSU.Edu         die knowing you'll live forever."
aka Tha Hood of Good        -Rich Mullins 'Live Right'
        "No sir, I didnt like it"- Mr. Horse                  
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