From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: BETTER? 92 Camaro or 92 Iroc Daytona??
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:15:02 GMT

In article 1dhuv0INNppk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>
>In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:
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>>In article 1dh1omINN7pq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
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>>>In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:
>>>
>>>>In article 1dcj7lINNpop@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu, aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>In a previous article, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) says:
>>>>>
>>>>>>In article 7824@zds-oem.zds.com, easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) writes:
>>>>>>>In article <1992Nov4.200129.28498@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>CAMARO!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  And he better hurry as they seem to be dwindling on the car lots
>>>>>>>around here, in anticipation of the '93's comming in January.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Just say NO to FWD!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Problem is, if your not too fond of the F cars or the 'stang, the 
>>>>>>>RWD choices are getting quite limited these days...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Torque Monger
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>-- 
>>>>>>>  ___  ___    Jeff Easton             easton@zds-oem.zds.com
>>>>>>> (__  (__     Zenith Data Systems     j.easton@mi04.zds.com
>>>>>>> ___) ___)    Saint Joseph, Mich.     easton@andrews.edu
>>>>>>>Monte Carlo   Z-LS/20 - Choice of a quiet generation
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In that case, get a used PORSCHE 928 that was well maintained.
>>>>>>I know it's European, BUT It gives good vibes! :) :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW, I could walk into the local PONTIAC dealership out here
>>>>>>and buy a new FORMULA cheap! Out here, people keep their old 
>>>>>>cars FOREVER because rust is minimal here on Vancouver Island!
>>>>>>No demand!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>My old one still has lotsa life left, so I'll pass for a few years.
>>>>>>The one in the showroom is loaded but without Auto or Air. It even
>>>>>                                       ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>>>HUH??? a FORMULA w/o an auto?? never laid eyes on one..i was thinkin
>>>>>that they were never actaully made...WOW..i'd love to drive this once.
>>>>
>>>>That's right! She's a rare one in the States, but most of the ones 
>>>>that were imported to Canada came with a 5-Speed. My '87 also has the
>>>>five speed with a stiff hydraulic clutch. The newer ones are easier
>>>>on the left leg, but I'm used to mine. The original owner of my car also
>>>>equipped it with(among other cool junk) disc brakes all around, 16" 
>>>>wheels, 245/50/VR 16 Gatorbacks, 5.0 Litre TPI V8(the manual tranny was
>>>>not available with the 5.7), Full analog instruments, top of the line 
>>>>Delco stereo, T-tops, cruise, PWR locks and windows(no PWR mirror or
>>>>seat), performance suspension, etc,etc,etc(!)
>>>>
>>>>Are you foaming at the mouth yet? :)
>>>> 
>>>>>>has the LEATHER INTERIOR!!
>>>>>         ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~another(???) definate negative...along w/ lack
>>>>                             ^^^^^^^               ^^^^^^^^
>>>>
>>>>Oh, so you don't like shifting? What a colossal shame! :(
>>>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>>READ FURTHER!
>>>ahem..i mean..read further.  you cut that in the wrong place!..
>>>what it sez is "the facts that the car has no airconditioning AND a 
>>>leather interior create negative brain vibes!..the stick is the only
>>>damn thing i'd buy the car for!!..but i like a/c(i live in Texas,
>>>or used to...:)..and do not care to pay for leather that i don't
>>>really seem to like..thus..the leather interior is another
>>>negative along with lack of a/c..you just edited wrong :)..hmm..you
>>>haven't been reading the thread on why americans can't seem to get
>>>away from automatics, have you?..didn't think so! try it..could clear
>>>up a little of your confuzion on my stand on sticks! :-)
>>
>>OK, that clarifies it all for me. Leather is a personal taste thing and
>>is IMHO cleaner than cloth(less dust buildup inside the car.) BTW, the guy's
>>desperately trying to get rid of the machine, so he'd probably give a great
>>deal on the car: LEATHER for FREE! You wouldn't have to pay for it.
>> 
>>Confusion gone WRT your stand on the"TO SHIFT OR NOT TO SHIFT"question.
>                ^^^
>what the heck does this one mean??most of these i've managed to figure
>out..but never seen this one before!  maybe it was just the leather in
>the car i drove..but i kept sliding...it was incredibly annoying..
>
With Respect To
>
>>I knew as soon as I read one of your later posts yesterday. 
>>I love to hate AirCon because the damn thing was always busted on my '74
>>Monte Carlo and my '81 Buick. After frying two compressors due to leaks
>>and other problems, those things are just not worth the trouble IMHO.
>>It costs too much to fix and it doesn't get so hot here in South-Western 
>>Canada like it did in Montreal, where I come from. 
>>
>>>>Shiftless cretins should be made to drive TRABANTS  
>>>>with NISSAN auto trannys low on DEXRON for two months. :)
>>>
>>>aaaakkk..no way!!!!
>>
>>I was joking. :)
>>>
>>>>
>>>>That'll fix 'em!!! :)
>>>> 
>>>>>of a/c..does anyone else not like leather??..my question is, would it
>>>>>wear to you in a couple months?..the ones i've sat on were always too
>>>>>slick..they didn't hold you..almost as bad as vynal..but if they would
>>>>>hold you in a couple weeks, i'd take it! :-)
>>>>>DREW
>>>> 
>>>>ACCKK! AirCon sucks away fuel and power! I just leave the T-tops open
>>>>and GO FASTER!!! I don't have leather myself, but it smells good and
>>>>is not a problem as the seats are true buckets that your ass gets
>>>>planted in.
>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>You'll unfortunately have to pay the Canadian price, though. :+(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Torque Monger  
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>Torque Monger
>>>>
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>>Torque Monger
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>DREW
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Torque Monger


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