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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: Re: The House of Eliott (HOE?)
Summary: RElationships
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:27:17 GMT

In article <16856F40D.UCPL078@UNLVM.UNL.EDU>, UCPL078@UNLVM.UNL.EDU writes:
> Just wondering if anyone watches this on A&E.  I think I've seen every
> episode except the very first and the one first shown on 8/23.  My
> problem is that I have never figured out exactly how the characters
> are related.  If I remeber right, there is Bee (Beatrice?), Eve,
> Jack, Sir Desmond, Penelope, that guy who was Eve's "guardian", ...
> Well, any help/comments appreciated.

I've been watching this since the beginning, despite my distaste for
that entire era in England (Upstairs downstairs and all that).

Beatrice and Evie are sisters.   Their father died and left them nothing
but debts.  He kept them at home, never educated them, never really
supported them.  Their skill with clothes comes from having to make all
their own, despite being rich.  The old man had slew of affairs including
one (supposed) son who he insisted be sent to the best schools.

Jack and Penelope are brother and sister.  The first "guardian" was
their cousin, son of the snooty old lady who's getting hers now.  The
Sir Desmond guy is Evie's gotfather and I believe just a family friend.

I hope I got all this right.

marc colten
From: dolf@echo.philips.nl (Dolf Grunbauer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: What do you call your remote
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:30:12 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, E.C.H.O. development department

Afstandsbediening :-)

afstand   = remote  (or distance or ... depending on the actual phrase)
bediening = control (in this usage)

Although nowadays we also call it "abdiening" as my then three year old
daughter couldn't pronounce the word.
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From: wb@tornado.kodak.com (wb@tornado.kodak.com)
Subject: LOOKING TO TRADE FOR MAX HEADROOM EPISODES!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (Telstar), Rochester, N.Y. 14653
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:53:44 GMT

 The subject line sez it all. I have 2 episodes on tape
 plus the American pilot for Max Headroom. I have to offer
 an extensive collection of Sci-fi, extremely tasty British
 Comedy and many great documentaries. I will provide tape
 and postage if you will let me wear out your video heads
 a little! :-)

 If interested, I can elaborate on my offerings.

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From: gillmore@picard.slc.mentorg.com (Mike Gillmore (Consultant))
Subject: Re: Historical TV (or Covington Cross)
Reply-To: mike_gillmore@mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corp.,  Murray, Utah
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:23:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.225458.19815@informix.com>, dranney@informix.com (David Ranney) writes:
> 
> Watching Covington Cross last night, something occurred to me.  I can't think
> of another prime time TV show which is set in the middle ages.  Blackadder
> had a series in the middle ages, but it's hard to consider it a full run
> show because it only had a set number of episodes.
> 
> What historical time periods have been represented in prime time TV?
> 
> Prehistoric (Flintstones)
> 
> WWII (Hogan's Heroes)
> 
> Korean War (MASH)

    I find this reasoning very shallow.  While M*A*S*H may have
used a set that was supposed to be Korea, many of the problems
that were presented were not Korean war problems, but Viet Nam
problems.  Think about it ...

> 
> Vietnam War (China Beach)
> 
> Modern times (Too numerous to mention)
> 
> Future (Many including Star Trek, Jetsons)
> 
> Just trying to start another thread...

-- 
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: MARRIED WITH CHILDREN
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 12:37:00 GMT


ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin) writes:

 >>Any relevent GIFs (especially of Christina Applegate) would be

 >There is supposed to be a nude one of her floating about the BBS world.

NO.  There are no "nude" pics of Christina, the one "floating" around
is of a porn star who just happens to resemble her to some extent.

Xref: sparky rec.arts.tv:16809 rec.arts.sf.tv:2896
From: sallylb@netcom.com (Sally Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Covington Cross--A Review
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:13:21 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <lis.714798232@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:
>Spoilers Ho!

 (trashing of show removed)

Whoa, Elisabeth, lighten up! Have a cynicism-ectomy! :-)

Historical accuracy -- well, I didn't see any either, I kept making
comments to that effect the whole time. But I didn't go in expecting
any. I don't expect historical accuracy from TV in *any* period --
ancient, medieval, Renaissance, Wild West.

But on the fun level, it *was* fun. I laughed, I enjoyed the swashing
and buckling, I thought Nigel Terry has aged marvelously... ;-)

Kinda like watching old movies when I was a kid.

Sally

PS Did they shoot the end credit sequence for "Black Adder I" outside
the same castle? Or am I just mixing up my silly medieval English stuff?

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From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Subject: Home Improvement address?
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 03:42:12 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

 i I'm seeking address to write to writers of "Home Improvement" cuz I
  have an idea or two to help make it entertaining.

- Scott

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From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeff Neau)
Subject: Re: Cartoon List
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:37:16 CDT

In article <1685111E3D.UCPL078@UNLVM.UNL.EDU> UCPL078@UNLVM.UNL.EDU writes:
>Thanks to everyone who helped me remember some of these good cartoons.
>Unfortunately, I was very young when these were being shown and many
>of them I only remember faintly.  Any more info or corrections would
>be appreciated.  Here is a list of what I have right now:
> 
>LOONY TOONS
>  Bugs Bunny , Porky Pig , Daffy Duck , Yosemite Sam ,
>  Sylvester the Cat , Tweety Bird , Granny , Speedy Gonzales ,
>  The Roadrunner , Wiley Coyote , The Sheepdog , Elmer Fudd ,
>  The Tasmanian Devil , The Martian , Pepe Le Pew ,
>  Foghorn Leghorn , Chickenhawk , Chip & Dale
                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^?

Chip and Dale are Disney!!!!!  Don't even compare Disney to the genius of
Warner Bros. Cartoons!!!  You must mean 'Goofy Gophers', the very polite
little rodents.

The Chickenhawk was called Henery Hawk...

The Martian was called Marvin Martian...

Don't forget:  Hubie and Bertie (the two mice), Claude the Cat, The Witch (can't
               remember her name off the top of my head).

Jeff
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From: hankdtank <hank@waffle.sns.com>
Subject: Re: **MIDDLE AGES**
Organization: Systems'n'Software, Fremont, CA  94539-6669
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 09:43:14 PDT

BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:

> F I N A L L Y, a show for baby-boomers, "Middle Ages"
> airs tonight, 8 pm on ch. 5.  "Thirty-something" was
> a great show for "them" and now it is OUR turn...


Ok. I am not a baby boomer, and people who are "middle aged' are twice my 
age, but that show/movie last night was great.  "Middle Ages" is easily the 
best new series I've seen in a while.  But has a 'black comedy' ever done 
well?  I mean, I was rolling with some of those lines, but I suspect that 
others were either disgusted or didn't understand the humor.
 
What do you think of the best show on Thursdays?  It will only be on for 4 
more weeks when 'Knots Landing' (gag!) returns, so watch it now.
 
It was supposed to air in January, but the talanted (and good-looking) cast 
are in demand and could be picked up for other projects, so CBS had to 'dump 
this series, hoping that enough people will watch it.  I'll bet that it will 
be renewed, and might stay where it is.  I'd watch that show over LA Law any 
day.  'Knots Landing' is on life support right now.
 

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From: APUCORLE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Emmy-barrassment
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:19:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9209011933.AA22929


I agree with all who posted about the sad state of the
Emmy show Sunday night.  The worst episode of the evening,
besides Corbin Bernsen's presentation, was when Susan Dey
made a joke to "Ms. Barr?"  The silence was deafening,
until Jay Thomas finally corrected her, "Uh, Mrs. Arnold."

Kirstie Ally looked like she wanted to be anywhere but
where she was.  Was this an act?  Was she purposely
appearing as if she had a knife in her back?  Maybe she
was unhappy because she KNEW the whole show was a joke.

And why did Dennis Miller disappear for two hours?

The comedian (can't remember his name) who presented
the Best Musical or Variety Show should win some kind
of award for making millions of viewers turn the TV
off.  He droned on and on and on and on about some
clip he wanted to show from "Anything But Love."
I wanted to see a shot of the audience staring in
disbelief at his unfunny routine.  I wanted to see
the producer backstage tearing his hair out over this
buffoon!  They cut the Cosby/Carson tribute so that
this guy could talk about his neuroses?!  And then
he messes up the reading of the nominees and reads
the winner (Tonight Show) before the nominees are
finished.  ACK!

And what about Markie Post?  She looked awful!  And
the dress looked worse!

Did they rehearse this show at all?  Couldn't someone
have told Corbin Bernsen that he sounded like a jerk
doing that "I could have played that..." routine?
The look on Rob Morrow's face was classic.  He was
looking at Bernsen with utter disgust.

Was there ANYTHING good about this show?  Hmmmmm....

Rosie O'Donnell was funny, a real breath of fresh air.
The fact that Northern Exposure won Best Drama (Drama?)
was nice.... more publicity!  I feel that these awards
have lost alot of respect because of this.  At least
among the few who watched (suffered through) it.

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From: conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: Emmy-barrassment
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:06:19 GMT

In article <9209011933.AA22929@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU> APUCORLE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU writes:

>The comedian (can't remember his name) who presented
>the Best Musical or Variety Show 

Richard Lewis.  This is his shtick, and maybe he thought this kind of
self-absorption was funny, but you're right, it was just ghastly.

>Was there ANYTHING good about this show?  Hmmmmm....


>The fact that Northern Exposure won Best Drama (Drama?)

Yes.  And I can live with Valerie Mahaffey winning for it too (at least
it wasn't Cynthia Geary).

And two people I was thrilled to see win:

Laurie Metcalf; one of the country's most accomplished actresses (I used
to see her often, back in her Steppenwolf days), and she manages to
remain so even stooging for Roseanne.

Eric Laneuville; one of the best directors in the business.  His speech
was terrific too, especially thanking the St. Elsewhere folks for giving
him the boost, and to Thomas Carter for being busy when the job was
offered!  (And it was also nice to see the Northern Exposure producers,
who are also the St. Elsewhere folks, get a hug from Thomas Carter as
they got up to accept their award.)

Jon Alan Conrad
From: adamsf@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: NEXP: creation of alt.tv.nexp (Northern Exposure)
Date: 2 Sep 92 12:22:13 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Sep2.154248.6469@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>, skippy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Ian Chesterton) writes:
> The CBS show "Northern Exposure", while only entering it's third season,
> has sparked much interest and discussion on rec.arts.tv.  Its recent
> Emmy success will provide many new viewers in the Fall.  The discussions
> on rec.arts.tv about this show range from the music in the episodes to
> the actors themselves.  I believe that there are many people who actually
> go through rec.arts.tv (like myself) and do searches for "NX" or "NEXP"
> keywords.  The bandwidth on rec.arts.tv is much, much too high for the
> casual reader to plunge through.  
> 
> I propose that an "alt.tv" or "alt.fan" group be created for Northern Exposure
> and/or the works of Falsey and Brand (the producers of NEXP, I'll Fly Away,
> and Going to Extremes).  The newsgroup would cover episode guides; discussion
> on actors, books, episodes, music, photos, quotes, scripts, and videos. As
> this is only a "young" show, I do not think it has the power or following
> for a rec.arts newsgroup. Thus, an "alt" newsgroup would be more appropriate.
> 
> I welcome any discussion on the name or charter of this group.
> 
> --- Ian ---


I love this idea.  TV is such a huge subject and ,yes, I do scan through for
NX or NEXP.  Problem is -- our system carries NO alt. groups and I would
lose one of the topics I am most interested in.  

just my dime

Fran Adams
From: fgodfrey@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU ("Francis N. Godfrey")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Looking for a _Murphy Brown_ episode...
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:14:52 GMT


there was a _Murphy Brown_ episode that was completely silent for the first
few minutes except for the music track (_Night on Bald Mountain_ maybe?).

it showed a VERY pregnant Murphy wobbling around and motioning to be fed.
she actually sat-on/collided with someone to make him literally one 
dimensional. it seemed like this was a sort of dream/imagination sequence.

can someone help me find this? thanks

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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Emmies = Bad TV? / Dennis Miller Q's
Date: 3 Sep 1992 06:52:58 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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In article <14774@mindlink.bc.ca> Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong) writes:
>As for Kristie Alley, I thought she was the best of the three hosts. 

Well, it's difficult to pick the least bad of them, but I don't think it
was Kirstie (yes, that's the correct spelling).  She was so stiff, and
couldn't even smile.  Her character on Cheers is supposed to be like that,
but she was supposed to be a human Sunday night.  She looked more like a
manequin.

I thought Miller was the least bad, because he's so good at sarcastic
comments.  He seemed the least scripted.

I think the best part of the show was when they were showing the nominees
for Best Writing in a Comedy/Variety Show.  I was rolling when they showed
all the fat people in place of Letterman's writers.

Just be thankful they didn't do any production numbers!  The opening number
was just long enough.
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From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: 90210 Down Under
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 11:51:47 GMT

> 
> I am also a big fan of 90210 from Sydney down under.  I would like to know more about upcoming espisodes.  Please tell me more about the story!
> 
> I am not a teenager, I am over 20 of age, am I too OLD FOR THIS SHOW?
> 
> Dennis (another aging fan!)
> 

I probably shouldn't admit this - but I'm over 30 (actually just this side 
of 40 and I really like it!


Gayle 'wish I was back in Illinois' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
(201) 829-3950
From: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: GOING TO EXTREMES
Date: 2 Sep 1992 13:32:32 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Well, I watched it... Certainly has the flavor of a tropical Northern
Exposure, except the characters don't seem to have as wide a range of
quirkiness as in NX. The impassioned and frustrated student doctor
was pretty much a stereotype, and the snappish dialog between
the new female medical student and him sounded like something I've
heard dozens of times...

Was the full-backal-nudity shot of the lady doctor radiology instructor
a first for a network prime-time series, or have I just been leading too 
sheltered a life, and such shots are common nowadays? :-)
-- 
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From: ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair)
Subject: Lady Frances Carfax plot fiddling (MYSTERY)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:09:52 GMT

   They did a lot of minor(?) tinkering:

(1) There was no brother in the story (presumably to
increase the # of suspects--- they do this a lot)

(2) The lake rescue didn't happen.
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From: pss6@quads.uchicago.edu (philip s stylianos)
Subject: Actor's salaries
Reply-To: pss6@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:16:48 GMT

A few years ago TV Guide published an list of TV stars' salaries.
The most interesting to me was Ted Danson's (I believe $650,000/episode) and
Meredith Baxter-Birney's ($125,000/episode), whose contract stated that her
salary was to always be the highest among all actors on Family Ties, including
Michael Gross's ($100,000/episode) and Michael J. Fox's (I think $115,000),
even though she was the worst liability of the show.

Anyway, if people could post accurate salaries of current stars of any show,
that would be interesting. I'll start it off, from my limited resource, 
TV Guide:

Rob Morrow, Northern Exposure: 		before dispute, $20,000; after, ???
Luke Perry, Beverly Hills, 90210:	about $20,000




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From: prec@ellis.uchicago.edu (bruce lyman precourt)
Subject: Re: Covington Cross--A Review
Reply-To: prec@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:00:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.163541.3936@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@Dartmouth.Edu writes:
>
>    Um Jerry, how can one be historically inacurrate when retelling a
>Legend? It is a legend after all, which means that any interpretation is
>as good as another. I mean, how much factual evidence is there that
>Arthur and Camelot and such really existed?


There was a man around whom the legend of King Arthur grew, a leader
of the Britons sometime in the FIFTH century A.D.

The point Jerry was making (I think) is that the 'legendary'
King Arthur incorporates a LOT of its hallmarks from later eras,
e.g., knights in shining armor,etc.

If someone were to make a film of the 'real' King Arthur (the man
who fought Saxons around 450 A.D.), it would not look anything like
the popular conception of the character.
 
The same could be said for semi-mythic events like the Trojan War.
There was likely a historical event behind it, but it is Homer's
tale of Achilles, Agamemnon et al. that transcends historical reality.

So in the matter of Covington Cross, I'm willing to suspend my
disbelief and let it be a 'generic' medieval era, corresponding
to no specific time-period. (although, on the other hand, they
seem to have narrowed it down considerably by mentioning that one
son persihed in the Crusades; the 1100's would be the highpoint
of this, I believe.)

It's not a GREAT show, but I think it's going to be more enjoyable
than yet another cop,lawyer,true-crime,funny dad,rich teens show.
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Subject: Re: Ren & Stimpy Newsgroups
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:10:21 EDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

In article <1992Aug27.222533.9037@bsu-ucs.uucp>, 00mebroda@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>>> 
>>> EEK!  I should get weeth eet myself!  I (really!) meant to say R&S are on
>>> at 9 pm (Eastern) Saturdays on Nick.
>>> 
>>> I'm so ashamed,
>>>  -Boeky
>>> 
>>> Get back, man!  Don't make me disclaim this!!!
>> 
>> 
>> For more info. about R&S, read alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy.
>> 
>  MORE INFO!!  I rarely see in posts in that newsgroup.  Where are all the R&S
> fans?  Even since the new episodes have started there have only been one or
> two posts in there.  Is this the case or is there a problem on my end of
> usenet?
> 
> 								mike
> 							brodacom@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
>  
>>           

In the last week, there have been 100+ posts!  Maybe it may be that you have
less days to read it before it gets bumped due to it being an alt.group.

Remember: alt.tv.ren-n-stimpy Is The Real Group
          alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy Is A Bogus Group

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