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From: cradle@wam.umd.edu (Dave Eisner)
Subject: Re: Paul Westerberg
Keywords: Westerberg, singles
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:25:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.110858.207@echo.philips.nl> johanb@echo.philips.nl (Johan Slob) writes:
>Does anyone know anything about the  two new singles by Paul Westerberg which
>were made in Seattle? Heard something about them on the radio.
>
>Johan

On the soundtrack to the movie "Singles" can be found two new songs by
Paul Westerberg.  One is "Dyslexic Heart" and the other is, I think,
"Waiting for Somebody."  I have the album, which is, IMHO, excellent.  
However, I'd have to say the Westerberg songs are my two least favorite
songs.  They sound a bit to "poppy" for me. 


				--Dave Eisner
				  cradle@wam.umd.edu
--------------------------------
DISCLAIMER:  These views reflect the opinions and attitudes of The University
of Maryland. . . .
Just kidding.
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From: damir@wpi.WPI.EDU (MR. Boy)
Subject: Re: What would you want Lollapalooza III to be?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:35:02 GMT



 	lolla III should be a rave....   :)


pEacE&ravE from beantown...
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damir@wpi.wpi.edu                  -PWEI           o--O--O--[*]--O--O--o    
IRC: steely          don't believe the hype.                ooo
dance, while the record spins 			anybody feel like falling?    
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From: parsons@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Subject: Re: Stone Roses Album Question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:34:02 GMT

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

>The Mondays have been together since '81 or so . . . but the Stone Roses
>got together in *1980* (as The Patrol, then English Rose, then finally
>Stone Roses).  So the Roses formed first, but the Mondays released an
>album first ("Squirrel And G-Man Twenty Four Hour Party People Plastic
>Face Carnt Smile" in '87 -- produced by John Cale of all people).

	Very interesting.  I never would have guessed.  Are there album(s)
which came out before _The Stone Roses_ on Silvertone?  For that matter are
there any other Stone Roses releases other than the kinda BS compilation
thing people were talking about earlier?

>Info courtesy the current Trouser Press guide.
	What's this?

		Rosily,
			-m.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: usscoop1@bnr.ca (Chuck McCusker P015)
Subject: RE: Spin Sucks!
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:33:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.191603.18795@infonode.ingr.com>, james@raveup.b24a.ingr.com (Teddie James) writes:
|> It is if all you care to read about is AIDS and rap.  They should rename
|> it ARM -- AIDS and Rap Monthly.  Don't get me wrong, I think AIDS is a
|> very crucial topic and should be discussed, but this is supposed to be a
|> music magazine.  Also, there are other styles out there besides rap. 
|> And have you ever read a positive review of anything in Spin.  They
|> don't seem to like anything they review.  Sure, there's a lot of just
|> plain poor music, but then there is also some great music coming out
|> every day.  Everything can't be bad.
|> 
|> Teddie James - Still looking for a good music magazine.
|>
I dont think thats all they talk about.	True, they do spend a lot of time
on the AIDS issue, maybe even too much for a music magazine. I dont see them
as mainly a rap magazine either. Of course I like rap so I may not be noticing
if they are heavy on it. I have read positive reviews in it, they just dont
go out and kiss every bands butt so they can get interviews.

Chuck Ross - Found a good music magazine, now looking for a perfect one.

 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Subject: Re: Nirvanas Secret Song
Reply-To: jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell)
Organization: Victoria University of Technology, Melb, Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:16:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.203049.28240@cs.tulane.edu> hernande@cs.tulane.edu (Oliver Hernandez) writes:
>Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-28194]: okeanos
>
>In article <mystic.09tt@weird.miami.fl.us> mystic@weird.miami.fl.us (Victor Marrero) writes:
>>
>>Does anyone have any info on the Nirvana's Secret Song and In The Wind.
>>
>>My friends were listening to Nirvanas CD the other day and at the end of the
>>songs that the album listed the CD played said that there was still 15 minutes
>>of music. I caught this and fowarded the cd to see what the hell were in those
>>15 minutes, I found two songs at the end. What are these? I can't make out the
>		     ^^^
>
>     Are there TWO untitled songs on "Nevermind"?  I've only heard one extra
>song that's about 10 minutes after "Something in the Way," and after that my
>CD player stops.  Can anyone explain this?

This only occurs on CDs made after the second pressing. It is a mistake
by the technicians.

Jed

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: lancer@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephen Lewis Foskett)
Subject: Re: Ceremony / Substance lyrics
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
	<kkrebs.00sn@amilink.sactoh0.SAC.CA.US>
	<LANCER.92Jul24122049@wpi.WPI.EDU>
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:25:15 GMT

>>>>> "me" == Stephen Lewis Foskett <lancer@wpi.WPI.EDU> writes:
me> Gillian Gilbert (keyboards), Barney Sumner (words) has been known to
me> hand with women (though I have no idea to what extent), and Peter Hook
    ^^^^

I mean "hang" not "hand".  I don't even know what "handing with women"
means...

:)

.s.
--
- so spake lancer@wpi.wpi.edu - - such is the way of the plague: -
-   Mr. Sandman makes a filthy bed for me but I shall not rest   -
- And I will not rest as a man who has been blinded by the storm -
-                And waits for angels by the road                -
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From: S2762132@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (s2762132)
Subject: Re: Lolla: What is allowed?
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Amherst
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:28:17 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Jul21.154940.10783@infonode.ingr.com> skeltonm@infonode.ingr.com writes:

> A couple of friends and I were talking about bringing some things with us
> to the concert...  Could anyone tell me what is allowed and what isn't?
> For example, can you bring your own food and drink (non-alcoholic) in with
> you?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Mark

<I just got my tickets in for Lolla 2, and right on the front of the ticket, 

it rudely states "no bags, no food, no beverages, no recording devices, no

cameras".  I really don't know how strict they will be. Last year in Montreal,

you could bring anything you wanted and in New Jersey and Mansfield, Ma, they

were pretty liberal...   My suggestion....all I'm gonna bring is some water and

some clean clothes in case it rains.  If they don't let me bring it in, no

great loss.

Happy Moshing8')

-Melanie>
From: v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I have a cunning plan..)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: All About Eve (was Re: Mission (U.K.) question)
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:22:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul29.052520.2856@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing) writes...
>In article <1992Jul28.204049.20108@cs.tulane.edu> phhill@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu writes:
> 
>>    Does anybody know if All About Eve is still around. Sometime after 
>>Tim Brecheno left them to join the Sisters, I saw an ad in NME saying 
>>they were playing in the UK, so I assumed they were still together in 
>>some form, but its been over two years since Scarlet And Other Stories
>>was released. Have I missed something, have they broken up, or are
>>they just real slow in putting some new music out?
>	yeah, you missed something. they put out a new album earlier this
>year  with marty wilson-piper of the church guesting on guitar.


All About Eve released an album sometime last year. I wish I could 
remember what it was called...it had "Jesus" in the title and sounded somewhat
religious.



QMC
From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: ...pROTOpUNK?!?
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:51:48 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

In article <smedley.701638572@milton> smedley@milton.u.washington.edu (William Warner) writes:
>galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter) writes:
>>The New York Dolls played a key role in that they served as a bridge from  
>>Glitter Rock (Bowie, T-Rex, Gary G., etc.) to Punk.  They moved from a 

Absolute trivia time.. 
and Malcolm Mclaren was the last manager of the NYD and the first of the Pistols..

i should know .. he lived in the cottage behind our place in Brighton (circ 74)

dnd
From: cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Christian Dylan Losinger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Achtung Baby???
Date: 21 Jul 92 01:45:51 GMT
Reply-To: cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <1992Jul20.155905.10544@spider.co.uk>, keitha@spider.co.uk (Keith Aitken) writes:
>In article <2A6899DC.730@ics.uci.edu> bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul17.145348.21536@cs.tulane.edu> hernande@cs.tulane.edu (Oliver Hernandez) writes:
>>>
>Bear in mind that "Achtung Baby" was recorded in Berlin, hence the
>overall Germanic influences.
>

	I thought that album sounded everything like a Love and Rockets album -
especially that first single. hell - even the video looked like a LnR vid. How
boring...U2...put on something real....
        --------------------------------------------------------------
        	c  h  r  i  s   l  o  s  i  n  g  e  r   r  i  t
From: cameroia@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Iain A Cameron)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: (none)
Date: 24 Jul 92 10:11:21 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.5

To: saiki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins info please...
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Computing Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland


  Lauri ,you were asking about Liz Fraser's vocals {Cocteau Twins}.She DOES sing
in English most of the time,but seems to use words for their sounds rather 
than their meaning.Offhand, I can remember a few words  from 'Ivo'.If I can
track the rest of them down I'll forward them.
here goes :
	"Ivo {something} pandour pompadour,"
	"{something} pigswill persephone "
these are the first two lines to the song,one of very few tunes in existence to
mention pigswill.

		hope this helps,
				iain.
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From: mmario@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (michael.p.mario)
Subject: Sniff 'N The Tears question
Keywords: Driver's Seat - What album
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:41:08 GMT

Anyone familiar with Sniff 'n The Tears?  Not exactly new but... this
group has a lot of good knowledgeable folks.

As far as I know their albums have been out of print in the US for
a loong while.

Well, yesterday while at a local non-chain CD store I found an album
on CD.  I learned that there are a number of albums available as imports
from down under.

I have been long looking for the album with the song _Driver's Seat_
on it.  Anyone here know the album title so that I can order it?

email or post.

Thanks,
--mike
mario@moss.att.com

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From: homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka)
Subject: Wire "The Offer"
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: world, local
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:01:32 GMT

Does anyone have the lyrics to Wire's "The Offer" which appears on the "It's 
Beginning To and Back Again" cassette/CD?  I checked the ftp site for Wire 
lyrics, but was not able to find any.
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From: bohren@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (arthur william bohren)
Subject: Re: What would you want Lollapalooza III to be?
Keywords: Lollapalooza
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:39:58 GMT

In article <Bruw0w.IFK@acsu.buffalo.edu> wiatr-m@acsu.buffalo.edu (Marc Wiatrowski) writes:
>my list:
>
>Morrissey
>Winger
>Nelson
>Willy Nelson
>Color me Bad
>New Kids on the Block
>Micheal Jackson
>
>marc

Be very glad people can't shoot at you over the net!!!
(Sarcasm is appreciated, but this was obscene!!)

Since I'm here, I guess I'll post my own list:

   Too Much Joy
   Fugazi
   Disposable Heroes of Hipophrosy
   Dinosaur Jr.
   Sonic Youth
   L7
   Violent Femmes

Arthur Bohren
From: km4j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kip G. Moore)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Lalla 2 questions
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:49:00 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


>My questions (finally): Is there any truth to what the (scalper-)agent
>told me?  Can anyone who went to one of this year's shows say anything
>about a mosh pit near the stage?  Does anyone know whether Great Woods
>will be removing the first few rows of seats?

I went to the second Lolla at Great Woods last summer, and I don't think
that there was a mosh pit in front of the stage, although I may be
wrong; I was on the lawn.  What I >do< remember was that during the
concert the day before it had rained, and the ground was rather
squooshy.  There had been some vague attempts at a pit all day, but the
ground was just too slippery and quite dangerous.

By the time Living Color came up, the ground was mostly dry and those
who had been restless all day really cut loose and a massive mosh pit
opened up at the edge of the lawn along the seats.  Somebody suddenly
realized that the turf that was being dug up in big chunks was great for
throwing at people, and a small war broke out.  HUGE clods of dirt and
grass were flying EVERYWHERE!!!!  Living Color was qute taken by this
whole scene and did everything but actively encourage it, but after
about 20 minutes of flying divots, a tour manager came out and yelled at
us and we....er, they stopped throwing grass around.  At one point
during the DirtFest, some random person climbed on top of the roof of
the pavilion with a video camera and started filming, so the crowd
obligingly threw dirt at him.  Everything was calm by the time Jane's
Addiction showed (Siouxsie was sick then, remember?), but nearly the
entire lawn had been shredded by then and there weren't clods big enough
to throw.  I'm sure the property damage ran into the thousands, if not
the tens of thousands, so it's really not surprising that the Great
Woods management intends to take out the first few rows of seats to
accomodate the moshers!

-Kay Double You
the unsane
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From: ben@athena.mit.edu (Ben)
Subject: Re: Nick Cave in Boston (Somerville, actually)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:47:03 GMT

Despite the lack of advertisement in and around Boston for the Nick Cave show,
the Somerville theatre has already sold 700 tickets and expects to sell about
200 more before Saturday, August 1st.  SWIRLIES, a Boston based chimp-rock
band recently signed to the TAANG! label, will open. The SWIRLY sound is loud,
noisy, and highly mellifluous. Because there are boy and girl vocals and
because the guitarists like their tremolo bars, they have been compared to
My Bloody Valentine.

They have two singles already, one on the Slumberland label, former
home of Velocity Girl,and the other on the Pop Narcotic label. Rumor
has it that the band will also be putting out a double seven inch with
the originators of chimp-rock, Kudgel.  In September TAANG! will put
out a CD compiliation of these releases plus a few tracks not
previously avaliable.

ben
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From: faubert@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (David M. Faubert)
Subject: Re: Alternative music in Montreal?
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 20:53:12 GMT

>     Another place I liked, (the name slips my mind right now) is a block up
>from FouFoune's on the corner of Mount Royal and Ste Catherine,
>(or maybe st lauraunt and ste catherines, its been a while...) you go
>up about four flights of stairs, in bitch black, to an arch, were the 
>bouncers run a metal detector over you (they also checked around my army
>boots for knives). The inside of the place is completely black, except for
>the bar which is flourescent green. There are peices of scrapped cars and
>various other peices of discarded junk on the walls. This place is also great.
>

This place is called, if I remember correctly, "La Nause", the e with an accent,
of course.  It is on the corner of Ste. Catherine and St. Laurent. Elvira serves
drinks there! (That horror show woman, for those of you who don't watch enough
TV.) The decor is Post-Modern Midas with a hint of B.F. Goodrich. And, for those
of you interested, the dance floor has a drain. I like this place a lot but I
now live in Vancouver.

Dave
From: brett@barney.esl.com (Brett Crockett)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: american music club
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:17:18 GMT
Distribution: alt.music
Organization: Sound Labs

Does anyone know what is happening now with AMC
(American Music Club)?
From: micheal@felix.lib.csulb.edu (Micheal Wojciechowski)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Need Lollapalooza Tickets
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:00:51 GMT
Organization: California State University Long Beach Library


 Does anyone have tickets for sale for the Lollapalooza show at Irvine 
Meadows?
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From: monello@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu
Subject: Re: feelies have broken up
Organization: University of Central Florida
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:30:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.152406.12910@u.washington.edu>
dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) writes:
>
>Not much else to say.  The Feelies are no more, according to Rolling Stone
>magazine.
>
>
>
sniff.  Just to remember them, I'm gonna go rent "Something Wild" so I can see
them play Melanie Griffith's high school reunion again.

M.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: edf250y@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew Marks)
Subject: Info on ''The Big F''!
Summary: I need information/advice on ''The Big F''
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 00:56:35 GMT

I keep seeing two film clips for a band called ''The Big F''.
They are American and I would imagine East Coast (but not on
Sub-Pop as far as I can tell!).  They play hard guitar-driven
rock with a psycho drummer who constantly goes banannas on
a two-bass kit.

As the only songs i've heard are ''Kill the Cowboy'' and
''Alpert Tango'' (both of which I love), I would like some
info on albums, other songs.  In particular, are they a two-hit
wonder or is the above mentioned songs a good representation of
their capabilities?


-- 
Andrew J. Marks
Student Number: 11278056

Office: E2.07
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From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Martin Atkins (was Killing Joke)
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:31:23 GMT

page.Princeton.EDU!jcgoh (Justin C. Goh) writes:

>Martin Atkins is a fiend
>of a drummer.  Check out the Ministry video "In Case You Didn't Feel
>Like Showing Up (Live)" to see him at work.  He's also played with
>Pigface and I think he's with Murder, Inc. nowadays, but I'm not
>sure.  

Martin's certainly played the field a lot. I remember interviewing him back
around 10 years ago when he was touring with his band BRIAN BRAIN. For this
he would somtimes (or always) use backing tapes of him drumming so he could get
up front and sing and get totally drunk. One of his singles had copies  
of his hospital bill for acute alcohol poisoning. The man was a party animal. 
At the same time he was also drummer in Public Image Ltd, which is where
I think he got his start... at least on records. 

  - malcolm@wrs.com  
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From: petebob@sequent.com (Pete Apple)
Subject: Bob Mould
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:26:00 GMT

Ok, I didn't get much response to my Love & Rockets post, so I'll try
another.  Does anybody know what Bob's up to?  I heard rumor he had
another album coming out sometime this year.  Does anyone know a date?
Has anyone heard if it more resembles Workbook or Black Sheets of Rain?
(I.E.  Insightful and Mellow vs. Loud and Depressing, both of which I
enjoy very much, btw...)

Did the other members of Husker Du drop off the face of the earth?

-- 
Pete_Bob Apple					       Sequent Computer Systems
petebob@sequent.com, sequent!petebob		       15450 S.W. Koll Parkway
Bob is not just a name..			       Beaverton, Oregon 97006
It's a way of life.. 				       (503) 626-5700
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From: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Subject: Re: Nirvanas Secret Song
Reply-To: tjb@strangeways.unh.edu (Thomas J. Baker)
Organization: soft asylum, inc.  -  dover, nh
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:50:01 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.101615.6044@matilda.vut.edu.au>  
jed@matilda.vut.edu.au (Jed Bowtell) writes:
> In article <1992Jul20.203049.28240@cs.tulane.edu> hernande@cs.tulane.edu  
(Oliver Hernandez) writes:
> >Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-28194]: okeanos
> >
> >In article <mystic.09tt@weird.miami.fl.us> mystic@weird.miami.fl.us  
(Victor Marrero) writes:
> >>
> >>Does anyone have any info on the Nirvana's Secret Song and In The  
Wind.
> >>
> >>My friends were listening to Nirvanas CD the other day and at the end  
of the
> >>songs that the album listed the CD played said that there was still 15  
minutes
> >>of music. I caught this and fowarded the cd to see what the hell were  
in those
> >>15 minutes, I found two songs at the end. What are these? I can't make  
out the
> >		     ^^^
> >
> >     Are there TWO untitled songs on "Nevermind"?  I've only heard one  
extra
> >song that's about 10 minutes after "Something in the Way," and after  
that my
> >CD player stops.  Can anyone explain this?
> 
> This only occurs on CDs made after the second pressing. It is a mistake
> by the technicians.
> 
> Jed
> 

Any way to identify discs that are made after the second pressing?  My  
disc does not contain anything extra, or maybe my CD player sucks?

tjb

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From: visnurpk@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Rich Kernin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: New Order - True Faith
Date: 22 Jul 92 07:10:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hi,

   Sometime ago I remember seeing something about a NO "True Faith" CDV that
has the remixes on it.  I know I won't find it :-) but if anyone has any
info on it (ie. track listings, etc) could you please share it?  I've got the
US 12" of TF with the 2 remixes on it, and this is my *favorite* 12".  As
far as I know TF remixes weren't out on CD single.  If anyone knows of any
TF remixes on CD (promo, single) I'd be interested in that as well.
I've checked the discographies, and they don't offer much.  Thanks! for
any/all info.

-Rich

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