HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: william@cs.arizona.edu (William (Dragon) Hertling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Transporter Room Sel.
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:12:24 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1bd03sINN77g@agate.berkeley.edu> jacob@plasma2.ssl.berkeley.edu (Jamey Jacob) writes:
>I don't know if this question has been asked yet, but
>how does Picard & Co. choose which transporter (or?) room
>to use?  I would think when leaving the bridge, there
>would be one that would be closest and thus most expedient
>to get to, but they switch quite a bit.  I don't have any layouts,
>so I don't know how they are configured in respect to
>the bridge.  Does anyone know?  Or are the rules for the
>writers "Just choose a number that is less tha 10."?

My guess, if the transportor room is like most other high-technology sites,
is that they have periodic duty cycles. For one week perhaps it will be
transporter room 1, then the next week transporter room 2, or whatever.
this allows time for other transporter rooms to be worked on, if neccesary,
and continued use of all of them ensures that no one room stays unused,
and therefore unmaintained for an excessive amount of time.

under normal circumstances 1 or 2 transporter rooms would suffice. at other
times, such as when at a star base, they may have all transporter rooms
online because so many crewman will be transfering back and forth.

william@cs.arizona.edu
From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ST books - some observations
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:44:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: cubldr.1992Oct16.094457.1
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Oct14.124328.15643@ns.network.com>, guy@ns.network.com (Guy D'Andrea) writes:

> YES!  Ishmael was lame and very un-original with all the characters from the
> TV show...  I'm not sure it was the purpose but I kept laughing throughout the
> book since it was so blatant in it's use of the old TV show.  Seems to me this
> writer needs to get a life instead of copying old TV show characters just to
> write a "new?" story??????  ;-)
> 
> -Guy
> 
>  guy@nsco.network.com, Guy Dandrea, Network Systems Corp., Mpls. MN 55428,  USA 
>                         1-800-328-9108  Fax:(612)424-1736 


Ummm.... I may be wrong about this, but aren't ALL Trek novels "copying old TV
show characters just to write a "new" story?"   Don't get me wrong, I've written
a couple myself, I just wanted to point out the paradox in Guy's semi-flame.

Kellie M-S
internet::matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: ST books - some observations
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:26:05 GMT

In article <zebee.718443915@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> zebee@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone) writes:
>With all the to-ing and fro-in about ST novel quality, herewith my 
>very-humble-opinion.
>  
>I haven't read either Probe or Imzadi, I too am waiting for the paperback.

Don't bother with "Probe". It's a fragmented disaster.

I haven't read "Imzadi" yet.



>I have read one of Peter David's books - Vendetta.  On first reading, I was 
>very impressed.  I liked it a lot, it didn't seem to suffer from the 
>stiltedness of some books, or the gush of others.  The characters were down
>well, and the dialogue and action well done.
>
>BUT
>
>I haven't been able to read it again.  Not sure why either.  
>Perhaps because the
>interest the first time was the plot, and once I knew what was going to happen
>the writing wasn't good enough to hold me.

I've read it three times now. I still like it for the fast-flying adventure
(BTW, playing the "Robocop" soundtrack while reading enhances the
experience *substantially*. The Star Trek 6 soundtrack works pretty well
too :-)


>As a contrast, I have read all of Diane Duane's ST novels several times.  With
>her the plots are good, but the writing is enough to get me to re-read the
>books just to delight in the dialogue. 

Well-written TOS dialogue almost always *is* better than well-written TNG
dialogue.


>Barbara Hambly did it for me in Ishamael, but her other ST book (can't
>even remember the name - Ghost HUnters?) 

GhostWalker.

>was so awful on a quick flip
>through that I didn't bother buying it.

I think you judged it a bit too quickly. I found it a solid read, one
of the few solid Trek novels produced that year. It's true that the
surface premise doesn't "grab" you like "Vendetta" does, but it's
a solid adventure flick and a good treatment of a tried-and-true Trek
theme. Give it a shot.


>So ST novels are like all other books - some good, some bad, some average.

Or like TV episodes...

                       .
From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Kirk VS Picard (Lost in Sp
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 17:38:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14

Shacha TJ!

[nearly perfect initials, you've got there, grin]

[tjw] He called far fewer meetings and ALWAYS got the girl.
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oh, did he? I had a =very= different impression: He =never= got it. But as
Spock once stated, he's already in love with the Enterprise (Elaan of
Troiyus).

And he didn't need to call any meetings: His officers offered their opinions
right on the bridge. That's something strongly disturbing me: In a situation
of danger or the possibility of being wrong, I'd never leave the one location,
where I'd see immediately what's going on! In such a case, I'd always ask the
best officers to the bridge and =stay= right there. And since Picard always
calls exactly those officers to the meeting, who are already around him, I
see absolutely =no= reason to take the time for a location change.

Oyori - Sem [from cool (luckily) and rainy Northern Germany]
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From: jenkinsj@blowfish.taligent.com (John H. Jenkins)
Subject: Data abroad (was Re: German "Star Trek")
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:13:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.215627.10294@umbc3.umbc.edu>, cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144) wrote:
> 
> How are Data's lines translated into German? Does he ever use a German
> contraction or does he speak, EVEN GERMAN, with no contractions. I have
> asked this question at least twice before and have gotten no answer that
> could explain how this is handled.
> 
> 

I've wondered this, too (and gotten no answer).  I mean, it's been a plot device 
once or twice (e.g., in "Datalore", "Future imperfect") that a pseudo-Data is detected
because the fake *can* use contractions.  Data must therefore have some linguistic
inability in languages into which TNG is translated.

(Or else you get lines like:

Wes:  Well, I knew it was really Lore and not Data because if he had been speaking
English, he would've been using contractions.  )

So what do they do?

(Side point:  I am *not* asking whether the English-speaking character Data on the
English-based show can learn non-English languages well enough to use the equivalent of contractions.  So far as that goes, I've never been convinced of this  contraction silliness in the first place.  I *am* asking what the German-speaking Data 
on the German-based show [or French, or Latin, or Hittite, or whatever] does.  That
is, what is the equivalent of the contraction plot device used by the German trans-
lators.  These are two very different questions.)


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From: djredick@bluemoon.rn.com (Darrin J. Redick)
Subject: Re: Troi's uniform.
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:53:13 EDT

bill@snoopy (Bill Poitras) writes:

> 
> Not to mention some of the regulars like Sirtis AND McFadden.  If you
> don't notice McFadden's endowment, check her out in the movie with Jim
> Belushi and ??? Groden.  Someone help me out with the title.  For those
> who know which movie I'm talking about: What other TNG character was in
> that movie?  
> 
> --

The movie was "Taking Care Of Business".  John De Lancie, aka "Q", was
in there as well.


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From: dianetti@acsu.buffalo.edu (Donald J. Dianetti)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: is this really true?
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:27:37 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct14.142258.2723@pro-freedom.cts.com> kfr@pro-freedom.cts.com (Kurt Roithinger) writes:
>i recently heard a rather persistant rumour that patrick mcgoohan is gonna
>make an apearance on ST:TNG. i still think this is a joke. does anyone know
>anything about this?
>
I'm gonna go way out on a limb and assume you mean James Doohan (the 
actor who plays Scotty).  If that's who you mean, the answer is yes.
The episode is titled "Relics" and should be airing around the U.S.
this week.  
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From: tomcat@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeffrey S. Jo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: German "Star Trek"
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:44:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cwis.tomcat.718663452
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel) writes:


>	A request for those in NetLand who watch "Star Trek" dubbed
>into German...Could someone please post the German translation of
>the famous "Space...the final frontier" opening?  Knowing some
>German, I have an idea how one might translate it, but I would like
>to see what is actually being used.  Vielen Dank!
>-- 


English to German translation of the intro to ST:TNG:

    DAS ALL, DIE ENDGULTIGE GRENZE.  DIES SIND DIE REISEN VOM STARSHIP
ENTERRPRISE.  SEIN STETIGER AUFTRAG IS FREMDE, NEUE WEITEN ZU ERFORSCHEN, 
NACH NEUEM LEBEN UND NEUEN ZIVILLISATIONEN ZU SUCHEN UND ES ZU WAGEN DORTHIN
ZU GEHEN WO NOCH KEIN MENSCH ZUVOR GEWESEN IST.

	No, I do speak a word of german,  I got this off of one of the
Foreign Language cards from the ST:TNG inaugural card set.


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From: bill@snoopy (Bill Poitras)
Subject: Re: Beverly Crushers year long absence on ST:TNG
Reply-To: bill@msi.com
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:58:04 GMT

Keith Henry (henryk@miki.pictel.com) wrote:
: What was the official explanantion (both on show and off) for the absence of
: Beverly Crusher for the year that the actress Diana Muldare (sp?) was chief
: medical officer?

Also, if Pulaski was a real replacement, why did the credits stick Diana
Muldaur as a special guest or guest appearance, and not a star?
: 
: Inquiring minds what to know.
: 
: /keh
: 

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From: ault@engin.umich.edu (Matthew Ault)
Subject: Request for episode list
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 11:42:12 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: NA

My apologies if this is a FAQ, but I'm no longer a regular reader of the
r.a.s.* groups (way too much volume), but I'm in need of some info.

Does anyone have, or know where I can aquire, an episode list for ST:TNG?
I'm looking for a list that includes the titles, original air dates and
stardates if possible, of episodes up through season five.  I've poked
around some FTP sites, but I haven't been able to find what I'm looking for.
If anyone can e-mail me either a copy of such a list, or an FTP site that
definately has such a list, I would be most grateful.

Thanks!

-matt

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From: lefevre@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Franck Lefevre)
Subject: Re: German "Star Trek"
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:27:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.124947.1892@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>Could anyone explain to me why Star Trek has to be dubbed into a foreign
>language in the first place?! This is one of my pet peeves(sp), being in France
>or Germany on vacation and not being able to watch an American movie/TV 
>program because some bright soul has replaced the original soundtrack with 
>a French/German one.
>---

 Nothing better do do than watching american movies/TV programs when you're
on vacation in France or Germany ?

>In the Scandinavian countries, foreign movies are NEVER dubbed - only subtitles
>are used. This means that William Shatner speaks English here, Brigitte Bardot
>still speaks French in her classic films and that the extremely well-made
>German police series such as "Ein fall fuer zwei" or "Der Alte" (I feel sorry
>for the Americans who most likely don't get to see these) are 100% German
>language in Finland as well. The way it was MEANT to be because an actor's
>voice is an important part of the overall "piece of art" a TV movie represents.
                                            ~~~~~~~~~~~~

  Indeed, subtitles are used on the french TV for all the films relevant to
  an artistic work. We don't need to hear Shatner's voice to know that he's
  a pathetic actor.

>Watching and LISTENING to foreign-language movies is one of 
>the best and easiest methods for learning a second language, Scandinavian kids
>are actively encouraged to brush up their English and German by watching movies
>with the subtitles blocked out (=an option on most modern TV sets). 

  At least you can improve your French while watching Star Trek !

>
>MARCU$
From: rcmtr@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Trevor Rook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Kirk VS Picard (Lost in Sp
Date: 13 Oct 92 06:11:35 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher) writes:

>And he didn't need to call any meetings: His officers offered their opinions
>right on the bridge. That's something strongly disturbing me: In a situation
>of danger or the possibility of being wrong, I'd never leave the one location,
>where I'd see immediately what's going on! In such a case, I'd always ask the
>best officers to the bridge and =stay= right there. And since Picard always
>calls exactly those officers to the meeting, who are already around him, I
>see absolutely =no= reason to take the time for a location change.

>Oyori - Sem [from cool (luckily) and rainy Northern Germany]

Must say I agree. Here downunder we've just seen Q Who. The Enterprise is 
being attacked by the borg, whom Q says are (is?) undefeatable, and what
happens, Pickard calls a meeting, in some cosy little room, probably 
miles from the bridge.

I can just imagine a scenario...

Data:     "Captain, an unidentified alien vessel is firing what appear to
	  be photon torpedos, phasers, and other weapons of destruction 
	  at us. Impact in 30 seconds.

Picard:   "Lets have a meeting, in meeting room 35.X.17352, in, shall we
	  say, fifteen minutes. Ensign Crusher, my boy, you bring the 
	  tea and biscuits..."


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From: sirney@controls.ccd.harris.com (Greg Sirney)
Subject: Re: "Probe" and "Imzadi"
Originator: sirney@rs2
Organization: Harris Controls
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:30:48 GMT


Everyone seems to like Imzaldi (no surprise, PAD is the best), but
what about Probe?  I've been following this thread for awhile and
havn't seen any comments on it.
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From: edwardl@freddyk.uucp (Edward Langenback)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Radio Shack lives in the 24th century!
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:22:12 GMT
Organization: NightMares R Us

rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel) writes:

> 
> 	In the "Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual",
> page 120, is *proof* that Radio Shack is still making electronics
> in the 24th century!  Look at the picture of the tricorder:  It says:
> 
> 	TRS80 TRICORDER VII
> 
> Your humble TRASH-80 computer has evolved into a tricorder :) :)
> 
 
  ye gods, Tricorders made by 'Rat-Shaft'?!?!  it's a wonder they work at 
all !


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From: swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley)
Subject: Startrek drinking game??
Keywords: drinking game
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:08:08 GMT


	A friend of mine said there was was a startrek
  drinking game. Could somebody please email me about
  this (whether or not there is one) and possibly the
  rules. 

  Bob

  swindley@s1.elec.uq.oz.au
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: tng font
Date: 10 Oct 92 03:14:33 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: rec
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Oct8.3244.3019@dosgate> "paul tucker" <paul.tucker@canrem.com> writes:
<
<  I know I've seen reference to this in the past, but I don't recall where.
<If I remember it correctly, the 'STAR TREK' as used in the opening credits
<either is, or is based on a specific font.

As far as I know, the STAR TREK THE NEXT GENERATION that is seen in big blue
letters at the beginning of the program (during the opening credits) is not
based on any font that I know of.  It is a hand drawn graphic.

But, the characters that are used for the other credits, names, production
crew, etc., are Crillee.

That font is now part of the Star Trek: The Next Generation Program Guide.
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From: rrogers@watson.ibm.com (Ryan Rogers)
Subject: Re: Worf in STVI:TUC
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:17:34 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14a by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: rrogers@watson.ibm.com (Ryan Rogers)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <Bw25q9.o7@cosy.sbg.ac.at>  bjelli@cosy.sbg.ac.at (Brigitte Jellinek) writes:
>
>
>I just read the quotes from STVI:TUC und hit on the name
>of the klingon who defended Kirk & McCoy in the trial: Colonel WORF.
>Now he can't possibly be the Worf of TNG. But then again ..??
>I *think* I saw Michael Dorns name in the credits, but I'm not too sure
>about that.
>
>
>So, please tell me:  WHO IS THIS WORF-PERSON SUPPOSED TO BE ?
>
>
>thanks in advance
>
>     Brigitte
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>live long           "In that case, Mr Spock, I would like to ask
> and prosper           a question" Saavik in 'the pandora principle'
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>

   Mike Dorn did play on STVI:TUC as Lt. Worf's grandfather, Col. Worf.


Sincerely,
Ryan Rogers
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From: phadley@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Peter Hadley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: "Probe" and "Imzadi"
Date: 12 Oct 92 01:28:01 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University

In article <Bvwvpy.72M@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
> Bonano wrote the original version, but someone (R'Nold?) insisted on
> many changes, which most people feel were not improvements.

Is there any way we can get rid of this bozo?  Or is the general
consensus _not_ that he's an anal-retentive ________ (insert your
favorite noun here)?  Has Paramount received any significant mail
about this in the days before I got into this group?  Can't we just
move him a few milliseconds out of phase?
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Radio Shack lives in the 24th century!
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:21:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Oct13.002100.2654
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

In <1bd35tINN1sk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
rfd@po.CWRU.Edu (Richard F. Drushel) writes:

>
>	In the "Star Trek: The Next Generation Technical Manual",
>page 120, is *proof* that Radio Shack is still making electronics
>in the 24th century!  Look at the picture of the tricorder:  It says:
>
>	TRS80 TRICORDER VII
>
>Your humble TRASH-80 computer has evolved into a tricorder :) :)
>
>Small spoiler:
>
>Actually, the number is TR580, but you have to look *really* close.
>                          ^
>-- 
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>Co-Sysop, Coleco ADAM Forum --- Assistant Sysop, Science Fiction & Fantasy SIG
>"Solda pung apfashat ro des-marno, / Marn ladir o armag noth yeni arno. / Hell
>miryat it, / Jambo iat it, / Os lasse wei ticip kati baldo." / Old Ennish poem


Wrongo! Take another look.... 

For those who are looking, on Page 120, there is a sketch of an open
tricorder, and on the very botton of the picture to the right side, there
is a box that states the name and info. It reads:

TR580 TRICORDER VII
  ^

That is a "5" as in FIVE, not an "S"....

*WHEW* The mere thought of hundreds of thousands of research personnel
depending on Radio Shack equipment gives me the creeps...

Dave
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From: steve@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Steven Glinberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: ro's gone??? (question about this post)
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:36:21 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.


>A few months back, the joke was that Paramount said just two words:
>TASHA YAR.  And that kept Ro in.

Small question, what is this supposed to mean?  Maybe I missed something? 
No flames please!?

Thanks anyone,
steve@picard.cs.wisc.edu
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