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From: jwz@lucid.COM (Jamie Zawinski)
Subject: Re: more lemacs 19.3 on HPUX
Organization: WU Mail/News Gateway
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:19:59 GMT

(I still assert that messages like this belong on the bug list, not the
help list, but I'm sure I'll continue to be ignored.)

In message <18o0nrINNf43@corax.udac.uu.se> Henrik B}kman CSD wrote:
>
> 	< #define C_SWITCH_SITE -I/local/X11R5/include -Aa -D_HPUX_SOURCE

When sending patches, please use "diff -c" instead of plain "diff".  It
makes it much easier for me to understand (and install) your changes.

Is _HPUX_SOURCE enough, or are all of _INCLUDE_POSIX_SOURCE,
_INCLUDE_HPUX_SOURCE, and _INCLUDE_XOPEN_SOURCE necessary, as Danny said?

Would adding this to config.h work?

	#ifdef hpux
	#define _HPUX_SOURCE
	#endif

Actually, I just remember that I had to add this junk to the Imakefile of
xkeycaps to get it to (allegedly) work on various releases of the HP OS.
If anyone knows what the story is with these goofy HP tags, please let 
me know.

/* This nonsense seems to be necessary to get the passwd struct on all HP
   sysems.  HP can't seem to make up their mind what preprocessor directive
   they want to use to tell their header files that they are being compiled
   on an HP.  Don't ask me to explain why these aren't the default...
 */
#if defined(HPUX) || defined(hpux) || defined(__hpux) || defined(_HPUX_SOURCE)
     DEFINES = -D_HPUX_SOURCE -DHPUX -Dhpux -D__hpux
#endif

> As Danny I had problems with missing floating-point functions and the
> easiest, I thing, way to get rid of the problems is to comment out
> 'LISP_FLOAT_TYPE'

It would be better if someone could figure out what the HP equivalents of
the various float functions are.  An emacs without float support is like
a day without sunshine...

> There is two files for hpux in src/s/ (s-hpux.h and s-hpux8.h).
> s-hpux8.h seems to be the new one to use, or...?

You tell me :-)

> 3. I do the following changes in 'src/events.h'
> 
> 	219,220d218
> 	< /* HB: 920910: Cause trouble "redeclaration" in hpux. */
> 	< #if ! defined(__hpux)
> 	222d219
> 	< #endif
> 
> This takes away 'struct Lisp_Process;' which causes complains from the
> compiler. Why??? Well, it seems to work without it.

But it doesn't on other systems; this is legal ANSI C, and if the HP 
compiler chokes on it, that's a bug.

The problem is that the line

  void (*select_process_cb)	(struct Lisp_Process *);

will, when fed through a compliant ANSI C compiler, generate a warning
something like "scope of Lisp_Process consists of parameter list only"
unless Lisp_Process is already globally declared as a structure name.
"struct Lisp_Process;" is a legal declaration, and does not conflict
with a (potentially earlier) declaration of struct Lisp_Process in
process.h, which may or may not have been included before events.h.

> Although I got the same problem as Danny with 'INVISIBLE_TERMINAL_KLUDGE'
> in 19.2 it doesn't shoved up in 19.3 for me!?!?

That's because INVISIBLE_TERMINAL_KLUDGE kludges no more!

	-- Jamie
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: jlf@sunpix.East.SUn.COM (John L. Furlani)
Subject: ? Don't see s-usg5-4.h
Organization: WU Mail/News Gateway
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 00:47:01 GMT


Just pulled over lemacs-19.3 for a first attempt a Lucid Emacs.

I see that u-usg5-4.h is supposedly supported in the etc/MACHINES
file, but it isn't in the src/s directory.

I'm trying to build under Solaris 2.0 and figured that this would give
me a better place to start.

Is this just inadvertently missing or does Lucid not work under
Solaris 2.0 yet?

please advise,
j.

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   distance from the Sun, which is very important.  We have seen
   pictures where there are canals, we believe, and water.  If
   there is water, that means there is oxygen.  If oxygen, that
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From: kenb@dadd.ti.com (Ken Butler)
Subject: Re: paste in minibuffer (19.3)
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc., Dallas, TX
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:19:45 GMT

   In message <hoelzle.716146448@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> Urs Hoelzle wrote:

   > In 19.3, the middle mouse button no longer works as "paste" in the
   > minibuffer. [...] Is there any way to change this back to the 19.2
   > behavior?

Jamie>    Of course, just change the binding of button2 in
Jamie>    minibuffer-local-map back to what it is globally.

I was never able to do this in 19.2, let alone 19.3.  If I hit ctrl-s, and
then grab some text from another window and try to paste it into the
minibuffer with button, I'd get a message like "not in a text window" in
the minibuffer.  Was I doing something wrong?

Thanks.

Ken
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From: bobhays@spss.com
Subject: Okay, built (with minor changes) Lucid on AIX 3.2.2 but ...
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:53:29 CDT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
I succeeded in building Lucid 19.3 on AIX 3.2.2.  If I run it on a
remote node, it dies while initializing (apparently while it is
putting up the menu bar).  If I run it locally (on my 220 WS), it will
start up.  However, the menu items don't seem to do anything.  And, if
I C-X C-F and then ask for a file to open, it reads it in, displays it
and then cores.

I'll get a core dump and wring it through dbx later today - if I learn
anything (or maybe even it I don't:-), I'll post the where listing (at
a minimum).

I wanted to know if anyone else was working on this (note - I'm not
using R5 X11; I want to run Lucid on a vanilla AIX environment under
Motif).

Thanks and have fun! - Bob
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: Re: blink-paren function
Date: 14 Sep 1992 16:51:16 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <47510@shamash.cdc.com> bjdunlop@shamash.cdc.com (Bruce Dunlop) writes:
>In general, it always blinks the matching left paren for the paren one space to the left
>of where the cursor is.
>
>Is this how it is supposed to work?  Does it work like this for anyone else?

Think about how it works when you're initially typing.  After you type a
right parenthesis, it's to the left of the cursor, and you want the
parenthesis that matches the one you just typed to blink.  It can't match
the parenthesis of the one you're *about* to type, since Emacs doesn't have
ESP yet (I think that's planned for the FSF's version, which may be why
it's taking so long :-).

Also, that's where you want the cursor to be when you type
Control-Meta-Rubout (does Lucid Emacs have this binding by default?  Lisp
Machine Zmacs has it), and you want the matching parenthesis to blink.

-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
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From: danny@amil.co.il (Danny Bar-Dov)
Subject: Re: more lemacs 19.3 on HPUX
	<9209110319.AA02602@thalidomide.lucid>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:59:08 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Jamie Zawinski writes:
 > [ ... ]
 > 
 > Would adding this to config.h work?
 > 
 > 	#ifdef hpux
 > 	#define _HPUX_SOURCE
 > 	#endif
 >
Well no. I tried that (with all the _INCLUDES) but there are many source files
which include "config.h" only after some other (system) includes.
In those cases this looses. The C_SWITCH_SITE is the best place.

 > > As Danny I had problems with missing floating-point functions and the
 > > easiest, I thing, way to get rid of the problems is to comment out
 > > 'LISP_FLOAT_TYPE'
 > 
 > It would be better if someone could figure out what the HP equivalents of
 > the various float functions are.  An emacs without float support is like
 > a day without sunshine...
I had to take out only about 8 functions. Most of them inverse hyperbolic
trigo functions. I think emacs can live without them (at least on HP)

 > > 3. I do the following changes in 'src/events.h'
 > > 
 > > 	219,220d218
 > > 	< /* HB: 920910: Cause trouble "redeclaration" in hpux. */
 > > 	< #if ! defined(__hpux)
 > > 	222d219
 > > 	< #endif
 > > 
 > > This takes away 'struct Lisp_Process;' which causes complains from the
 > > compiler. Why??? Well, it seems to work without it.
 > 
 > But it doesn't on other systems; this is legal ANSI C, and if the HP 
 > compiler chokes on it, that's a bug.

Go tell the Spartans. (HP has many ANSI C bugs. So much that in many cases
I use their C++ compiler as an ANSI C compiler).
 > 
 > 	-- Jamie

--
Danny.

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From: bobhays@spss.com
Subject: Update on my continuing struggle with lucid on AIX
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:27:53 CDT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
I suppose hacking is allowed here :-) ....

This change allowed me to get lucid to start up and actually do some
things.

> diff menubar.c menubar.c~
146c146
<   if ( wv && wv != 0xDEADBEEF)
---
>   if ( wv )
150c150
<     if (wv->key && wv->key != 0xDEADBEEF) free (wv->key);
---
>     if (wv->key) free (wv->key);
161,174c161,162
<     if (a && a != 0xDEADBEEF)
<     {
<         if ( a->key && a->key != 0xDEADBEEF )
<         {
<             free ( a->key );
<         }
<     }
<     if (b && b != 0xDEADBEEF)
<     {
<         if ( b->key && b->key != 0xDEADBEEF )
<         {
<             free ( b->key );
<         }
<     }
---
>     if (a) free_widget_value (a);
>     if (b) free_widget_value (b);

Note that I took the recursive call to free_widget_value out - if you
do not, you end up segment violating in the free call because a
pointer has a non-null value but is not pointing to allocated memory.
Anyway, this allowed me to get further.  Now, I can lock it up if I do
just the right things, and I can still get it to core dump (I think -
the above fix might have changed that behavior now that I think about
it:-), but I can get it to load, open files, etc.

That's all I can do today (/usr/group/chicago meeting tonight - our
local UniForum users group, of which I'm an active [read volunteer
dish wiper] member].

Have fun! - Bob
From: bret@muppet.bt.co.uk (Bret Giddings)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: fonts
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:36:57 GMT
Reply-To: bret@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Research Laboratories

Does anyone know of any decent fixed width fonts for use with lemacs. I don't like
the default, and would by choice use 8x16, but this has no bold variant. Alternatively,
is there a method of generating a bold/italic font from the provided 8x16 roman font.

Also - is it possible for lemacs to change the colour of the mouse pointer within
its windows?

Bret
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From: neumann%dec4.wu-wien.ac.at@lucid.com (Gustaf Neumann)
Subject: compiling 19.3 on a DECstation under ultrix 4.2
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:04:40 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Maybe someone can need the following information:
i have compiled lemacs 19.3 sucessfully on a DECstation 5000/200
Ultrix 4.2, X11R5 from MIT using gcc.2.2

The following two small changes were necessary:

a) gcc reported a type clash due to a different protoyping of getenv
in environ.c. i added the following hack to lisp.h.

<dec4:neumann:83> diff -c lisp.h.orig lisp.h
*** lisp.h.orig Thu Sep 10 18:08:57 1992
--- lisp.h      Thu Sep 10 12:16:50 1992
***************
*** 17,24 ****
--- 17,26 ----
  along with GNU Emacs; see the file COPYING.  If not, write to
  the Free Software Foundation, 675 Mass Ave, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.  */
  
+ #ifndef ultrix
  #ifdef __STDC__
  #include <stdlib.h>
+ #endif
  #endif
  
  /* Define the fundamental Lisp data structures */

b) change in the xmakefile in the src directory the tercapobj definition to 

	termcapobj = termcap.o tparam.o



some parameters from my config.h
"s/s-bsd4-3.h", "m/m-pmax.h"
i used SYTEM_MALLOC instead of GNU_MALLOC, 
#define NEED_STRDUP
#define NEED_REALPATH
#define LIB_GCC ../../gcc-2.2/libgcc.a

everything compiled fine with gcc except xdisp.c

-gustaf
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Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration 
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:02:40 PDT
X-Windows: Japan's secret weapon.
From: jwz@lucid.com (Jamie Zawinski)
Subject: Re: blink-paren function
	<47510@shamash.cdc.com>
	<47573@shamash.cdc.com>
	<9209150303.AA16539@thalidomide.lucid>
	<GRUNWALD.92Sep15174013@mumble.cs.colorado.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
There's a variable bar-cursor which makes the cursor be a (very thin and ugly)
bar cursor, but it doesn't really work any more.  I encourage someone to debug
it and make it pretty...

I think that bar cursors are bad because they're hard to see.  The advantage
of having a big block covering a character, even though it's only the left
edge of that block that is significant, is that it's easy to locate the cursor
without having to hunt for it.  

	-- Jamie
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 09:07:43 -0600
From: eeide@asylum.cs.utah.edu (Eric Eide)
Subject: Available Minibuffer Partial Completion Packages?
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
I generally use Dave Gillespie's "partial minibuffer completion" package for
GNU Emacs, but my copy (version 1.05 beta) doesn't work within Lucid GNU Emacs.
Has anybody adapted any of the partial completion packages to Lucid?  I know of
these packages:

  "complete.el" by Dave Gillespie (daveg@csvax.caltech.edu)
  "completer.el" by Chris McConnell (ccm@cs.cmu.edu)

Thanks for any leads.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: dmason%plg.uwaterloo.ca@lucid.com (Dave Mason)
Subject: Re: 19.3 installation on decstation/ultrix4.2 with native cc
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:34:50 -0400
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Here is some better menubar Buffers functions that you might want to
include in the distribution.

	../Dave

-------------------------------
(add-menu-item  '("Buffers" "Change to...") "" nil t)
(add-menu-item  '("Buffers" "Save...") "" nil t)
(add-menu-item  '("Buffers" "Delete...") "" nil t)
(add-menu-item  '("Buffers") "Save All Buffers" 'save-some-buffers t)
(add-menu-item  '("Buffers") "List All Buffers" 'list-buffers t)

(defun build-buffers-each (buffer-menu func buffers)
  (let (name)
    (if (not buffer-menu)
	nil
      ;;(if (> (length buffers) 10)
      ;;    (setcdr (nthcdr 10 buffers) nil))
      (setq buffers
	    (mapcar (function
		     (lambda (buffer)
		       (if (setq name (format-buffers-menu-line buffer))
			   (vector name
			     (list func (buffer-name buffer))
			     t))))
		    buffers))
      ;; slightly (only slightly) more efficient to not install the menubar
      ;; if it hasn't visibly changed.
      (if (equal buffers (cdr buffer-menu))
	  t  ; return t meaning "no change"
	(setcdr buffer-menu buffers)
	;; return the now-modified menubar to install.
	))))

(defun build-buffers-menu-hook (nothing)
  "For use as a value of activate-menubar-hook.
This function changes the contents of the \"Buffers\" menu to correspond
to the current set of buffers.  You can control how the text of the menu
items are generated by redefining the function `format-buffers-menu-line'."
  (let ((buffers (buffer-list)))
    (build-buffers-each (car (find-menu-item current-menubar 
					     '("Buffers" "Change to...")))
			'switch-to-buffer
			buffers)
    (build-buffers-each (car (find-menu-item current-menubar 
					     '("Buffers" "Save...")))
			'save-buffer
			buffers)
    (build-buffers-each (car (find-menu-item current-menubar 
					     '("Buffers" "Delete...")))
			'kill-buffer
			buffers)
    )
  nil)
From: hb@woody.csd.uu.se (Henrik B}kman  CSD)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: Lucid or not?
Date: 6 Sep 92 12:09:12 GMT
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden

What is the preferable way to check if you are running Lucid-emacs or
not, in an elisp-file?

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From: davidh@muppet.bt.co.uk (David Hobley)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: lemacs19.3 installation
Keywords: help emacs lucid install
Date: 11 Sep 92 08:40:48 GMT
Reply-To: davidh@muppet.bt.co.uk
Followup-To: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Organization: British Telecom Research Laboratories

I have just compiled lemacs 19.3. I tested it in the ..src/ directory and 
everything was fine. However when I moved the binary to /usr/local/bin it could
no longer find its startup files. The library was in /usr/local/lib/emacs.

It turns out that if the /usr/local/etc directory exists, it looks in there for 
its DOC file. Moving the etc to etc.old fixes the problem.
Having seen the patch to startup.el, I applied that, but to no avail. I also
looked at the lisp code in that function, but can't work out why it isn't checking
the correct directory.

Has anyone seen this ? Fixed it ? ;-)
---
	David Hobley	davidh@muppet.bt.co.uk

 Feel disillusioned?  I've got some great new illusions ...
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
From: jwz@lucid.COM (Jamie Zawinski)
Subject: Re: Lucid Emacs 19.3 released
Organization: WU Mail/News Gateway
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:23:34 GMT

Yes, C-j works the same as LFD; anything that is passed to define-key as a 
string does this kind of ASCII compatibility hack.
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:11:37 PDT
X-Windows: It could happen to you.
From: jwz@lucid.com (Jamie Zawinski)
Subject: Re: minor 19.3 problems
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
In message <9209151748.AA23796@sunpix.East.Sun.COM> Tony E. Bennett wrote:
>
>     +  how do I assign a command to C-2 (control 2)
>         Every thing I've tried has either complained that C-2 is
>         not printable or screwed up another key defn (notably C-R !)
> 
>             (global-set-key '(control 2) 'set-mark-command)
>             (global-set-key "\C-2" 'set-mark-command)

(global-set-key '(control \2) 'set-mark-command)

because 2 is an integer, which define-key interprets as ?\002, which is not
legal in this context.  \2 is a symbol: (symbol-name '\2) ==> "2".

>     +  How to color the mouse pointer?
..
>             Emacs*pointerColor:	                Red

This works for me.

>     +  How to set the screen name to the value of a variable?
> 
>             (setq my-screen-name "example")
>             (x-create-screen '((name . my-screen-name)))
>     
>         just complains that my-screen-name is not a string.

It's not.  (x-create-screen (list (cons 'name my-screen-name)))

	-- Jamie
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Is there a way to get just the user manual for lemacs without ftp'ing
the whole tar file?  Is there an elisp manual update for lemacs?

Has anybody compiled it on an SGI under Irix 4.x?

Thanks.

-David

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 07:08:17 PDT
From: devin%scylla@lucid.com (Matthieu Devin)
Subject: Re: blink-paren function
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
In message <47510@shamash.cdc.com> Bruce Dunlop wrote:
> I tried the blink-paren function, and it almost works.  BUT, matching a right
> paren works a little odd.  For example, if I have a function with just one
> level of paren., and put the cursor ON the right paren, it does not blink the
> matching left one.  If I move the cursor one space to the right of the right
> paren, THEN it blinks the matching left paren.

That's how it's supposed to work, it's also how M-C-f and M-C-b work.  Don't
forget that the point is actually *in-between* characters, it's never *on* a
character even if it is dispayed above characters.  

So the rule is: If point is just before an open-paren it blinks the matching
close-paren and if point is just after a close-paren it blinks the matching
open-paren.
From: bjdunlop@shamash.cdc.com (Bruce Dunlop)
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help
Subject: blink-paren function
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:10:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Control Data, Arden Hills, MN


I tried the blink-paren function, and it almost works.  BUT, matching a right paren
works a little odd.  For example, if I have a function with just one level of paren.,
and put the cursor ON the right paren, it does not blink the matching left one.  If
I move the cursor one space to the right of the right paren, THEN it blinks the matching
left paren.

In general, it always blinks the matching left paren for the paren one space to the left
of where the cursor is.

Is this how it is supposed to work?  Does it work like this for anyone else?

Jim Dahlberg
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From: matis!amir@lucid.com (Amir J Katz)
Subject: 19.3 hangs when creating new screens?
Organization: SEE Technologies Ltd.
Reply-To: matis!amir@lucid.com
X-Reply-To: amir@matis.ingr.COM
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:49:30 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.lucid-emacs.help