HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: smorris@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Morris )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WWF results from Detroit
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:16:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

If anybody still cares about the WWF, The Detroit News printed
results of the Friday card in Detroit.

Savage pins Flair to retain title   20:42

Natural Disasters beat Money Inc on DQ to retain title  8:47

Virgil pins Kato   12:15

Tatanka pins Martel  16:38

Undertaker pins DiBiase  6:21  (Berzerker no-show)

Big Boss Man beat Nailz on DQ   7:11

Crush over Skinner by submission  9:38

On this last match, the paper said, "Roddy Hogan helped Crush by
distracting Skinner the entire bout".  Roddy Hogan?  Does this
make sense to anybody?  Probably ace wrestling reporter M.L. 
Curly's subtle humor.

Note that the good guys won every damn match.  Send em home
happy Vince.
From: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan, Hardcore Alaskan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Japan Wrestling
Date: 22 Jul 92 03:53:35 GMT
Reply-To: fsspr@acad3.alaska.edu
Organization: University of Fairbanks, Alaska...no wait, that's not right...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a3

In article <S91386KF.92Jul21043326@cs0.sfc.keio.ac.jp>, s91386kf@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Katsuhiko Fuse) writes...
> 
>First of all, the Greatest 18 Club was formed on September, 1990, in the 
>cerebration of Antonio Inoki's 30th anniversity as a wrestler. The Greatest 
>18 include names like Lou Thetz, Karl Gotch, Nick Bockwinkle, Bill Robinson, 
>Johnny Valentine, William Lusca, Hiro Matsuda, Johnny Powers, Antonio Inoki, 
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Do you mean Wilhelm Ruska?  I know that he is quite famous in New Japan,
but I am not aware of anything he's done in pro wrestling outside of the
New Japan promotion.

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From: Gross Gladiator
Subject: Prediction Time for Summer Slam
Organization: University of Tasmania ( ex. T.S.I.T. )
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 06:03:40 GMT

Well R.S.P-W's here are my predictions for Summer Slam

All Flames will be graciously accepted and returned with VENOM


     - Randy Savage vs. Ultimate Warrior for the WWF Title

Ulti will win this in another doddle.  Savage has for some time looked like a
shadow of his former self. Added to this his impending divorce and his lack of
merchandising     power the title seems sure to change hands.
 
      - Bret Hart vs. Davey Boy Smith for the IC Title

Dave Smith to win.
This will be one of the saddest matches of the night. Where an over inflated
roider who gets puffed out tying his shoes goes up against a good technical
wrestler who is expected to do a JOB for him.

     - Money Inc. vs. Legion of Doom for the WWF Tag Titles

Money Inc. to be DQ'd and retain the titles ( Vince can not have all face
champions unless LOD does a turn prior to Summerslam)

     - Undertaker vs. Kamala
Easy win for Mean Mark  ( expect many situps )

     - Papa Shango vs. Kerry von Erich
This match will be altered with the suspension of KvE
Shango to win against whoever he wrestles ( except HOGAN )

     - Beverly Brothers vs. Natural Disasters
Disasters to squash Bev Bros

     - Tatanka vs. Berzerker
Perhaps the best match on the card.  Tatanka to win via DQ

     - Crush vs. Repo-Man 
Interestin match up    Crush to win (Hopefully putting Repo [what a lame excuse
for a character] out of wrestling)

     - Nailz vs. Virgil
 Virgil with the Big Boss Man making the save and causing NAILZ to lose.

I expect many,many run ins to occur through out the card.

Cheers

The Gladiator
From: Alan.Moorman@f40.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Alan Moorman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Want Info....
Date: 21 Jul 92 00:25:00 GMT


  I'm new at BBSing, and wonder if there is a specific source for info
on our fave raves?  Real names, ages, significant others, where they
live (generally), and stuff which isn't the standard flack release?


  I've noticed that the Ultimate Warrior went through all that "dark
side" stuff, where he appeared to lose to the forces of darkness, and
then he didn't wrestle much for quite a while.  I know he missed a
couple of dates here, and wasn't on WWF broadcast TV programs, either.
  Spose he had a few too many steroids, and was trying to get clean?  He
still looks good, but he doesn't seem to have the buffed, pumped-up look
he had before...
  Does anyone know what is the problem with Kerry Von Erich, aside from
the reports of him being suspended for "drugs"?  I agree that he seems
a little brain dead, but does anyone know what the deal is?

Thanks....

 * Origin: Odyssey BBS | Edina, MN | (612) 832-5127 | (1:282/40)
From: spr@prism.gatech.EDU (Stefan Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Saturday Night Superstars
Keywords: Boni Joe
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:16:10 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Here is some info I picked up on the Saturday Night Superstars show on July
25 on Atlanta's Channel 69:

We already knew that Boni Blackstone and Joe Pedicino, co-hosts of the show,
are married. They were married on December 31, 1990.

The show has been on for 7 years and 2 months. Initially it started on
Channel 36, with just Joe as the host. Joe was an advertisement salesman (or
something like that) for the station and suggested a wrestling block on the
station. He was told they would do it if he hosted it. That's how he became
the host. Later (2 or 3 years?), they selected a female co-host, Boni. Joe
and Boni did not know each other until then.
Both Channel 36 and 69 are independent Atlanta stations (purely local).
The show moved to Ch 69 when Ch 36 became affiliated with the FOX network
and no longer had room for a 7 hour Saturday night spot and kept squeezing
SNS down in length. Joe and the whole production moved to Ch 69, which
originally had been a purely music video channel. That didn't seem to work
out so they kept adding regular programming and now they haven't had music
videos in years.

Joe and Boni will be leaving the show now. July 25th was their last show.
Since I did not watch the entire show, I do not know what Joe and Boni plan
to do or what will become of SNS. Presumably, SNS will go on as its ratings
are quite high. Boni and Joe are listed as Executive Producers. I don't know
if they will leave the show altogether or just get new hosts.

Joe indicated that he would continue to do Pro Wrestling This Week. I hope I
got this part right.

Craig Johnson and Steven DeTruth were there to wish them well. I can't
remember if Scott Hudson was there. Joe and Boni thanked a number of people
who helped them in the past.

The show seemed to contain a number of restrospectives and old clips, but I
only watched the end of it and didn't tape it so I can't say much about it.
At the very end of the show, Joe and Boni kissed. The end.


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From: Donald Becker <marilion@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Various News Items
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 15:38:10 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

> Either Roider or Savage will have to go heel in this match. Face/face
> matches always result in one wrestler going heel. This is the WWF
> remember.
>  
 
Yep, I remember that VICOUS Roddy Piper heel turn after fighting Bret
Hart at WM8, not to mention the equally DEVASTATING UW turn after WM6.
 
Even if the WWF is the WWF, Savage has been very loyal to them. Even if
there IS going to be a turn at SummerScam, it's not going to involve UW
or Savage. Why should the WWF get rid of one of their best workers by
making him go out a heel? Savage will retire after this match IMO, and I
doubt it'll be as a heel. As for UW, a heel World champ doesn't sell as
well as we'd like, and all the limey marks (no offense to any Brits who
happen to be online) have to go home happy. You can't send 'em home happy
with a heel champ, unless the audience is mostly r.s.p-w. people.

> I'll repeat my predictions. If UW goes heel it'll be because Papa Shango
> turns him into a mindless voodoo zombie (he's merely a mindless zombie
> right now.. soon he'll be a mindless *voodoo* zombie). If Savage goes
> heel it'll be on account of this "win whatever way I have to" angle. I'm
> going on a limb and saying that Savage will turn heel. But, he'll still
> lose the strap because Flair will interfere in the match. Then Flair
> will beat the Roider within a matter of weeks.
>  
 
Why have Shango get involved in the UW's affairs? Shango has already been
trounced at house shows all over the country by UW. That makes absolutely
no sense whatsoever. As for Flair regaining the strap, if they wanted to
give it to him, they would've done so between WM8 and SScam. 
  
Given: Warrior will win at the Empire Pool (or is it Wembley Arena?).
Warrior will hold the title for as long as Vince McMaggot deems fit.
 
--Don
  
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From: ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson)
Subject: Re: NEW WWF TAG CHAMPS........
Reply-To: ba446@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Todd M. Hanson)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 06:42:52 GMT


In a previous article, shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Richard Barry Shrum) says:

>In article <92204.132109N79BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> N79BC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>>
>>Fresh from the wrestling hotline..... The Natural Distasters have won the Belts
>>......On Monday nite in Boston from Money Inc.....IRS missed with the breifcase
>>, hit Dibiase and Earthquake covered for the pin!!!
>
>Oh boy; does this mean we get to see YET ANOTHER N.D.vs L.O.D. title 
>match?????!!!!!!!

If so, this gives us 3 face vs face title matches.   Any speculation on 
what Vince has planned with this one?

Todd
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From: myleslee@next17pg2.wam.umd.edu (Alan Brady Ward)
Subject: Re: El Gigante In The WWF (was: Re: Wrestling TidBits   -   07/23) 
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:21:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.174715.22285@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>  
ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (The Candy Guru)  
says:
> 
> >In article <Brv0xt.2tI@watdragon.waterloo.edu>,  
hekunze@jeeves.waterloo.edu (Herb Kunze) writes:
> >
> >>  - It's been rumoured that El Gigante will be teamed with Andre The  
Giant
> >>    in the WWF.  They better have cool entrance music because it will  
be
> >>    the slowest entrance for any tag team.
> >
> >Yeesh.  Hopefully they'll name this team "Big and Dumb".  You can  
decide for
> >yourself which is which.
> 
> Oh Boy.  We now will have two guys walking around saying: "I WANT DE
> BELT!!!"

I wouldn't hold my breath.  Last I knew, Andre could hardly walk.  I don't  
think that leg injury was all together fake.
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From: bulls@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (debra.s.martis)
Subject: Wrestlers on Family Feud
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:35:10 GMT



For anyone that is interested, the Family Feud that was on tonite
(ch 50 in chicago) had a rerun of the wrestlers vs. WBF.  Can only 
suppose that will continue all week and that is being rerun all over
the country.  I caught several of the shows the first time they were
on, and it was pretty entertaining, especially Bobby "The Brain."

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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: What's Luger's Deal?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:52:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.202400.2467@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> fout@achilles.gsfc.nasa.g
ov writes:
>
>
>What's up with Luger?  Why isn't he wrestling?  Is he going to?

Welcome to R.S.P.W. As has been reported here often in the past, Lugar is still
under contract with WCW and cannot wrestle with anyone else until his contract 
expires, I think sometime next year. It has also been reported that he does not
like wretling very well. So with the collapse of the WBF, anyone care to 
estimate the odds on him returning to WCW? Comments?

                                                David Kempster
                                                Fx
                                                The Unbound Variable
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From: myleslee@next17pg2.wam.umd.edu (Alan Brady Ward)
Subject: Re: Martel/Michaels
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:44:44 GMT

In article <BrpwD3.4zq@ais.org> hampton@ais.org (Kevin Podsiadlik) writes:
> Well, it came down as advertised, Martel had Hart in the Crab, Michaels
> comes down and starts beating on Hart--thus disqualifying Martel.  Hart
> lies crumpled and the "two sexiest guys in the WWF" start a feudin'.
> 
> McMahon slipped a couple weeks ago when, during a Martel squash match,
> he said "thumbs down *for now* for the Model..." (my emphasis).
> 
> So Martel is turning face, which is a bit of a pity, though maybe now
> he'll be more of a wrestler and less of a poser.  Still, I'd like to
> see one month of a "down and dirty" feud between Michaels and Martel.
> In fact, I would pay good money to see a setup like this:  During a
> Michaels squash, McMahon gets handed a videotape, supposedly from
> Martel, and is told to "play it".  Up pops the "monologue box" alongside
> the boring match, and it is Martel, in Sherri's dressing room.
> Quips Martel, "We secretly replaced ze fine French perfume Sherri
> normally wears with this-- new Arrogance For Women.  Let's find out
> if Sean Michaels can tell ze difference."  And after the match, Sean
> gets a whiff of Sherri, and yes, he can tell... 
> 
> Still don't know how they're going to handle the Hart-Bulldog matchup.
> What will make anyone think Hart even has a chance is beyond me,  
especially
> the way he is portrayed as struggling against even minor superstars,  
like
> DINO BRAVO for crying out loud.
> 
Awh, come on!  We've seen him beat the likes of Barbarian and Warlord  
before.  So it's feasible.

Beside, Davey's gonna win at Wembley anyway.  

Al
From: Scott.Simpson@f904.n250.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Scott Simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Music, again.
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:33:21 GMT


    Somebody I know from the wrestling school (he's big and
mean) (and his name isn't Bull) wants some information
regarding acquisition of WCW wrestlers' theme music.

    Some of the folks he wants themes from include; Barry
Windham (!!!), Arn Anderson, Lex Luger, Rick Rude, D. A.....

    Although Barry's music is "La Grange" by Z.Z. Top, WCW
has its own version (and a damn fine one at that - his
comment).  *ANY* information regarding WCW's theme music or
the company that supplies it, ya know, anything, would be
much appreciated.

    Thank you all sooooooo much,
                  >> SDSimpson
                  scott.simpson@f904.n250.z1.fidonet.org
                  or Scott's Basement BBS @ Fido 1:250/904
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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: is High Energy gone?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:47:56 GMT

In article <Bs274D.HBD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thomas P.
Johnston) writes:
>I haven't seen many WWF shows recently.  I've noticed that High
>Energy and the Nasty Boys aren't being discussed much in this group.
>Are both these teams still performing in the WWF?
>
>Has there been any indication that Money, Inc. will split up now
>that they've lost the titles?
>
>Tom

High Energy and the Nasty Boys are finishing out their program with each other 
that has been going on all summer. In fact the wonderful people at the WWF ;) 
have schedualed a card right here in columbus ohio for the first time in a long
time and have High Energy taking on the Nasty Boys.

On a related note I recently rented a Japanese tape from 1990 that includes 
Owen Hart teaming up with Bam Bam Bigelow against Steve Williams and the 
Pegusus Kid, for New Japan Wrestling. Owen could actually work back then.
As usual, no one works in the wiff. Even rick Flair has been reduced to three 
slaps followed by a figure four in all squash matches


                                                   David Kempster
                                                   Fx
                                                   The Unbound Variable
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From: heard@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au (George Heard (Laurie 8))
Subject: Re: recent posts response 
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:18:51 GMT

Jason Winn Bareford <jb8y+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>To respond to a couple of posts.  No masked wrestler has held the World titles (WCW, or WWF) Even though make in the early 80's the Midnight Rider pinned Ric Flair in a title match.  The stipulation was that he had to prove that he wasn't Dusty Rhodes (who had been suspended) when the Midnight Rider wouldn't take his mask off they gave the belt back to Flair.  It was a pretty cool idea because as
>a mark sees it, Dusty got royally screwed out of the title.  This mega-endeared
>him to the fans, and catapulted Flair to the top of the most hated ratings.

Ummmmmmmmm, didn't Moolah win the WWF Womens' World Title wearing a mask from
Wendi Richter? That got a lot of TV time in Australia when it happened (ummm
85 or so), because there was a WWF tour here shortly after with Moolah
defending the belt against Velvet MacIntyre. In case anyone is interested, the
belt changed hands four times during that tour, Velvet won the belt in Sydney,
defended it in Melbourne (the night I saw), lost it the next night in Melbourne,
and won and lost in Adelaide and Perth (I think).

Speaking of Australia and titles... I was in New Zealand about two years ago,
and there was an NWA Commonwealth Title tournament, involving some NWA
wrestlers (Steve Ray, the Nasty Boys solo, the Terminator, Mike Graham) and
some Australian/New Zealand wresters (my hero Larry O'Dea being one). Anyone
have any idea what became of that belt after the tour? Was the tournament
shown in the US? Was I hallucinating (can't be, I've still got three of the
matches on video)?

George
From: k_deegan@bessel.concordia.ca (kenneth deegan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Redefining the business (was Re: Weekend Syndies WHIFF and WCW)
Date: 25 Jul 92 07:14:09 GMT
Organization: ECE - Concordia University

[debate about mat wrestling deleted - you've read it enough]

Hi Herb, I love the tape a good selection.

I just wanted to add a couple of cents in on the re-education of the
fans. I think it can be done. Now, I have to admit that I was brought
up on a lot of mat stuff, on account of Grand Prix in the 60's and 70's
in Montreal had a Plethora of Arm Bars, and step over toe holds and the like.
I always then, found it perfectly natural to use a lot of this mat stuff
to wear the other guy down, like say his leg, and go for the finisher.
Many the Heel limped around the ring as Gino Brito methodically worked
on the leg for 15 minutes just to apply the figure 4. (I think submission
is a good way for matches to end). Plus with mat stuff, wrestlers can go 
for 20-30 minutes to a time limit draw which can be helpful if you do
not want either to lose. Rick Martel and Jimmy Garvin would go 60 minutes,
in the AWA a number of years back, and they would talk about devastating
10 minute headlocks that wore martel down (read as nap). 

Now, leaving heat aside (the fans will go with the flow), How come we
get on the DBS-Warlord 4 hour bear hugs, yet hail Bill for bringing the
"ROOTS OF WRESTLING" back??? I just can't see the difference (aside from
the fact that warlord would forget to flex his muscles and least make it
look real). 

It would be great to see Dan Kroffat bring his snap suplex back to
N.A. where I could see him.
From: jmk9313@hertz.njit.edu (Jason Kaminski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Martel/Michaels is this Deja Vu?
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:05:16 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1grxj-p@rpi.edu> moyj@warren1a.its.rpi.edu (Jayson Moy) writes:
>
>On this Martel/Michaels fued set-up, isn't this sort of reminiscent(sp?)
>of the situation a few years back when Savage interfered to have Stemaboat
>retain the Intercontinental Belt so that Savage could beat Steamboat
>for it? I might have the participants messed up, but doesn't this seem
>like Deja vu?
>
>Jayson Moy
>moyj@rpi.edu

   It is kind of reminiscent except for the fact that Savage interfered in a
match between Steamboat and Hercules for the same reason, but he and Herc never
started a feud after that.  In fact, Savage attacked Steamboat after the match.
The whole plan made Savage come off as someone who knows exactly what he's 
doing, and not as someone who's making a run-in for no reason at all.  Michaels
ran in to stop Hart from losing, but now he's in a feud with Martel, which is
not what he wants.  The whole thing makes Michaels look kind of stupid if you
ask me.
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