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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: ease of RBI (was: Re: RP/PA for AL and NL (More bogus RP stats))
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:02:24 GMT


In article <3665@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate)  
writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.195215.21948@cs.rose-hulman.edu>  
rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert) writes:
> >
> >Sorry. I didn't make myself at all clear here.
> 
> >RBI% for runner on 3b with <2 outs is greater than
> >RBI% for runner on 3b with 2 outs.
> 
> >RBI% for runners on 2b with <2 outs is less than
> >RBI% for runners on 2b with 2 outs.
> 
> I'm afraid this looks backwards to me, too.
> 
> Why would the conversion rate go *up* with 2 outs?  Everything that works 
> with 2 outs still works with < 2 outs, plus various strange events like fly
> balls where the outfielder throws it away after making the catch...

With 2 outs the runners are off with the crack of the bat.

> Was this difference significant for the number of occasions each situation
> arose?

Here's the data from 1985-6 Elias (they stopped giving it after that).

      0 outs     1 out     2 outs
1b:  973/21394 1612/31876 2064/35667
2b: 1703/10161 3788/20127 5148/24813
3b: 2881/ 4710 6482/11234 3894/14080

rates:                 st.dev. (using rates as estimators)
      0    1    2            0     1     2
1b: .045 .051 .058     1b: .0014 .0012 .0012
2b: .168 .188 .207     2b: .0037 .0028 .0026
3b: .612 .577 .277     3b: .0071 .0047 .0038

Annual rates broken down by leagues:

1b      0    1    2    2b     0    1    2 
AL84: .048 .050 .059  AL84: .165 .190 .213  AL84: .623 .591 .271
AL85: .050 .057 .062  AL85: .179 .192 .219  AL85: .625 .570 .282
NL84: .039 .045 .055  NL84: .168 .185 .201  NL84: .604 .576 .225
NL85: .044 .049 .054  NL85: .156 .184 .195  NL85: .590 .570 .287

While we're here, what are the %occurances of occupancy with 'n' outs?
(e.g. in the AL in 1984 with 0 outs there were 5953 1b opps., 
2684 2b opps and 1254 3b opps. so the first entry is
5953/(5953+2684+1254) ~ .60  )

0outs 1b 2b 3b  1out  1b 2b 3b  2outs 1b 2b 3b
AL84: 60 27 13  AL84: 52 31 17  AL84: 49 32 19
AL85: 59 28 13  AL85: 51 32 18  AL85: 48 33 19
NL84: 58 29 13  NL84: 49 32 18  NL84: 47 34 19
NL85: 59 28 13  NL85: 49 33 18  NL85: 47 34 19

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
From: loglady.ninds.nih.g!josh@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Oriole tickets
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:59:00 GMT
Organization: National Inst. of Health, NINDS, LMCN
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I live in the Baltimore area, and I called to get about 4 tickets to a game, 
and
the earliest game they had tickets for was around August 25.  Sorry, unless 
you
go to the game and try and get them from scalpers...

good luck

josh@loglady.ninds.nih.gov
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From: willmsch@buzz.rtp.dg.com (Royce Willmschen)
Subject: Re: olympic baseball
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:40:28 GMT
Organization: Data General Corporation, Research Triangle Park, NC

In article <!gjmyva@lynx.unm.edu>, kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee") writes:
> In article <1992Jul24.173644.27130@tin.monsanto.com> bcschu@skws02.monsanto.com (Brett Schultz) writes:
> >Does anyone have the olympic roster and/or the schedule?
> 
> I shoulda just posted instead of replying via e-mail to the last guy...
> 
> US 1992 Olympic Baseball Team
> 
> P   Willie Adams, Stanford, undrafted? (1)
> P  *Jeff Alkire, Miami, St. Louis 5
> P   Ron Villone, UMass, Seattle 1
> P   Darren Dreifort, undrafted
> P   Rick Helling, Stanford, Texas 1
> P   Daron Kirkreit, UC-Riverside, undrafted
> P   B.J. Wallace, Mississippi State, Montreal 1
> P   Rick Greene, LSU, Detroit 1
> 1B *Jason Giambi, Cal ST-LB, Oakland
> 2B *Chris Wimmer, Wichita STate, San Francisco 8
> SS *Nomar Garciaparra, Georgia Tech, Milwaukee 5
> 3B *Phil Nevin, Cal ST-Fullerton, Houston 1
> IF  Craig Wilson, Kansas State, Chicago (AL) 11
> LF *Calvin Murray, Texas, San Francisco 1
> CF *Jeffrey Hammonds, Stanford, Baltimore 1
> RF *Chad McConnell, Creighton, Philadelphia 1
> DH *Michael Tucker, Longwood (Va), Kansas City 1
> OF  Chris Roberts, Florida State, New York (NL) 1

You left off the catchers (and some outfielders too!).  One of them is Jason 
Veritek of Georgia Tech.

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From: yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rick Lin )
Subject: Re: Dawson, was: Re: GMaddux to Test Free Agency Waters
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 06:45:25 GMT

dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:

>It's bad if it's all the offense you produce.  Dave Kingman was mediocre
>while hitting 35 HR per year.  Frank Thomas is a batting monster while hitting
>25 HR because of all the other things he does.  (And, of course, RBI's don't
>tell you much more than that Dawson bats cleanup, but that's a different
>thread.)

So that's how Kirk Gibson won the MVP in '88!  With about 25 HR and 75 RBIs
Not to mention his knee (much worse than Dawsons). 
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From: kirsch@epx.cis.umn.edu (Dave Nobody Kirsch)
Subject: Re: More Exby wisdom (Was: hey cubs, you suck. no, the Sox do
Keywords: pet, kinky, Steere, inanimate, Huckabay=Lance Johnson's arm  
Organization: Dominican Deities - Juan Guzman levitation branch
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:55:41 GMT

In article <92197.213556U13054@uicvm.uic.edu> Howard "the Duck" Wachtel <U13054@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>     Yes, Mr. Exby, they do play night games at Wrigley.  But only 18
>of them per season--by law they cannot increase that number.  You see,
>there are real people living near that ballpark.
           ^^^^^^^^^^^ 

  You mean, as opposed to the inflatable people living in a couple closets 
at the Steere household? 

  I, for one, am going to be rather worried when we have some form of people
other than 'real' ones living near the ballpark. I suspect baseball will then
resemble something seen on The Jetsons. 

  :-) 

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From: tmiller@prism.gatech.EDU (Thomas Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Braves lose - finally!
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:39:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology



  Well, it finally happened.  As the Braves tried to beat the Pirates
in the 3rd game in Atlanta this weekend (thus achieving a sweep) and
set a new winning streak record of 14 games, things seesawed back and
forth until the final 5-4 Pirates victory.  Things looked pretty grim
for the Braves late in the game, when the Pirates led 4-1, but Lonnie
Smith whacked a 3-run homer to tie it 4-4.  A solo Pirate homer soon
after that sealed the Braves' fate, though.

  13 wins in a row, though...Well, now we'll see if they can keep the
momentum up...



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From: poutsmaj@mace.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: ESPN
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:42:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University


Does anyone one what games ESPN is planning to show tonight?  They were 
scheduled to have Twins-Red Sox at 7:30 EDT followed by A's-Jays.  However,
with last night's rainout, the Twins-Sox will play a double-header starting
at 5:05 EDT.  Will ESPN show any of these games or show an alternate game
which means we miss the Erickson-Rocket matchup?

paul
From: poutsmaj@mace.cc.purdue.edu (unknown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Past World Series
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:45:41 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Jul23.180956.11126@eng.umd.edu> seifert@eng.umd.edu (Earl Scott Seifert) writes:
>
>>1985: Royals over Cardinals???
>
>Royals over Cards 4-3  (In St. Louis  Cards over Royals+Denkinger 4-2)
>

Can anyone tell me the ump who blew the call in last year's World Series
on the "Hrbek pulled Gant off first incident"?

I always wondered why Herbie got all the blame when it was the ump who 
missed the call...


PGW
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From: rpb@roberts.colorado.edu (Robert Baptist)
Subject: Re: ARTIFICIAL TURF: EMBARASSMENT TO THE GAME
Organization: NOAA Climate Research Division
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:53:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.185608.13602@auto-trol.com> mattel@auto-trol.com (Matt Telles) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.145126.12334@trentu.ca> pyacm@trentu.ca (A Colin Morton) writes:
>>In article <21JUL92.08541720@wums.wustl.edu> peirick_j@wums.wustl.edu writes:
>>>Quick anecdote:  Rain delay here about three years ago.  Bob Costas and Mike
>>>Shannon killing time during the shower.  Mike Shannon observes that since
>>>the game is taking place on artificial turf with a new drainage system, the
>>>delay after the rain stopped would be minimal.  Bob Costas responds that
>>>yes it's true, and it's the beginning, middle, and end of the list of good 
>>>things about artificial turf. 
>>
>>Doesn't Mile High Stadium in Denver, with real grass, have a
>>state-of-the-art drainage system that works (theoretically) better than
>>squeegying (?) artificial turf dry?  Doesn't this thing work even better
>>when the field is tarped during the downfall?
>>
>>I recall hearing somthing about this a few years ago; I believe it
>>involved physically suctioning the moisture down through the turf into
>>drainage tiles.  Can somebody who knows better than I please explain
>>this to me?
>>
>
>Why, in God's name, would Mile High Stadium have *any* drainage system?
>Denver is in the middle of the desert!  We get less than 15 inches of rain a
>*year*!
>
>No, Mile High has no special drainage....
>
>Matt
>

Wrong Matt..  Though I'm at a loss for specifics as well, there is a
special dranage system.  (yes, it is dry here, but it has been known
to snow..!)

- Robert
From: comm.mot.com!stailey@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Best Looking Swing
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:10:00 GMT
Organization: Motorola Land Mobile Products Sector
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant


*    When I watch a good hitter at the plate, they will show the swing of the
*  hitter in slow motion. IMHO the best looking swings I've seen are:
*        1) Dave Justice
*        2) Will Clark
*        3) Don Mattingly
*        4) George Brett

  5) Rafael Palmeiro
  6) Mark Grace


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From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Hall of Famers
Keywords: I still have yet to see ANY evidence from you.
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:21:16 GMT

In article <3621@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
>
>I took a peek at it last night, out of curiosity.  Here's what it looks like
>to me.
>
>	1. Garvey was very young.  It's quite possible that he suffered
>	   later injuries that knackered his mobility or arm or both.

Possible. However, he did manage to steal about 11, 19, 9, and 10 bases
a couple years after the move to 1st. He seems to have been not too hampered
in his runnig. And his arm was always suspect.

>	2. It was only about 100 games at third.  1/3 of a season, followed
>	   by half a season.  He was shifted to first after that second half
>	   season because of his high error count.  His range factors were
>	   still pretty good.

A bit of a nit; from 70 - 72, he played 27, 79, and 85 games at 3rd (Neft &
Cohen). He was also played in the OF for a bit.

>	3. Thorn and Palmer normalize by league on an *annual* basis.  As 
>	   such, they are susceptible to glitches in their ratings when there
>	   just aren't any good players at a given position in the league that
>	   year.  Believe me, it happens, and it happens at third base more
>	   often than most years.  Garvey's ratings for that year are being
>	   compared with Ron Santo at the end of his career, Darrell Evans in
>	   his first cup of coffee, Tony Perez (who led regular NL players in
>	   chances per game, which tells you how bad the league was that year),
>	   and a whole lot of tofu.

Perez in 72 played exclusively at 1st (same source)

>	4. Possible pitching staff effects.  The Dodgers had Downing, Osteen,
>	   and a few others getting most of the innings.  Were these guys
>	   ground ball pitchers, or at least the RHP's among them?

Singer and Sutton were righties (and I believe Downing was as well). Osteen
and John (72) were lefties.

>Garvey was adequate at third for a little less than a year, but scared everyone
>with his errors.  He was only adequate because the league standards were so
>low, it looks to me.  He probably would not have remained adequate for long.

As I recall, his arm was a question before he was brought up. 

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From: magyar@hss.caltech.edu (Ted Turo'cy)
Subject: Re: 1951 Baseball Encyclopedia
Keywords: 1951 Baseball Encyclopedia  
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:30:23 GMT

In <1992Jul21.174933.2330@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL) writes:

>In article <BrpIEu.Bzv@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jhg8680@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon  Hamkins) writes:
>>dgh2@quads.uchicago.edu (Doug Huffer) writes:
>>
>>>Can a team get six hits in an inning and not score a run?? (Remember, based
>>>on 1951 rules, so scoring may have changed since then, I'm not sure.)   
>>
>>Sure.
>>
>>1.  Single.  Pickoff.  1 out.
>>2.  Single.  Pickoff.  2 outs.
>>3.  Single.
>>4.  Single.
>>5.  Single.  Bases now loaded.

> 6. Outfield shallow, single, Fisk-esque runner on third is thrown out at
>    the plate.

>>6 hits, no runs.
>>
>>I wasn't alive in the 50's, so I must claim ignorance if the rules
>>regarding appeal plays were different back then.  I don't imagine they
>>were, though.
>>
>>     ----Jon Hamkins  (hamkins@uiuc.edu)

>	Same here,

>-- 
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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>Steelers in 92, Bubby's Back!  |   Obviously the funniest team in the IBL.   
>"Anything that travels that far oughta have a damn stewardess on it"

No, no, no, 6.022*10^23 times no!  Like I said, you _can't_ get a single
if there is a force out!  It's a fielder's choice.

hss-161: stty flame on

Please read all posts on a topic before posting!

hss-162: stty flame off

Note: If my posts didn't make it to your site, please disregard above flame.

Isten vele,

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From: kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Subject: Re: Twins release Donnie Hill
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:01:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.152841.8341@cs.umn.edu> niccum@cs.umn.edu (Tom Niccum) writes:
>In <1992Jul20.141749.231@brtph560.bnr.ca> Paul Schroeder writes:
>
>>A few days ago I read in the newspaper that the Twins released Donnie Hill and
>
>The Twins really really wanted to give Scott Leius a rest at third.  He's
>played quite a few games in a row, and it was felt that lack of rest
>was driving his batting average down.  Donny Hill was not regarded as an
>adequate replacement at third... he was used only at short and second.  He
>was offered the option of going to Portland for a while.  He was 
>guaranteed that he would be brought up after September 1st, but was
>not guaranteed to be on the post-season roster.  Hill had the
>option of accepting the demotion, or becoming a free-agent, and chose
>the latter.  One reason this move was necessary was that the twins are
>carrying 11 pitchers right now, so they need a very versatile utility
>man to fill in for 2nd, 3rd and Short.  Reboulet is considered to be
>a good glove man at all of the positions.  He's hitting about .250
>in the majors and somewhat higher at Portland.  I'd bet he'll play
>nearly every other day, spelling Leius, Gagne and Knoblauch down the
>stretch.

It was also hinted at that he doesn't play good defense on turf (having played
in California for several years).  I don't know if Reboulet will help out
that much.  I can just see the bottom of the lineup when Erickson pitches:
Lenny Webster, Jeff Reboulet, Greg Gagne.  I bet pitchers are scared about
that one.

I thought it was a pretty bad move.  If Reboulet can learn 3rd base, Hill
probably could.  And he hit better.

>
>-Tom
>
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From: henning@banana.ithaca.ny.us (Henning Pape-Santos)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Bobby Bo Was: 1 million a win (was Mets: Worst Team Money Can
Date: 21 Jul 92 02:49:07 GMT
Organization: The Twisted Banana BBS, Ithaca NY (US)

jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:
> Some may show up to see Bonilla "break out" and perform. Oddly enough, the
> only game I've attended at Shea this year was the one where Bonilla *did*
> break out - grand slam, 3(?) hits in a 14-1 rout of SF, even though i had
> shown up just to boo him.

Oh, JAM, by all means, please show up more often!!


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From: jds23971@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Neff )
Subject: Re: Shoot Harry
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:51:22 GMT

One of my favorite Harry stories:

WGN had a graphic similar to the following:

NL Strikeout Leaders
David Cone    NY        123
Bruce Hurst   SD        110
Greg Maddux   CUBS      100

Harry says, "And there we see the National League strike out leaders led by
David Cone of the New York Mets and Bruce Hurst from South Dakota."

SOUTH DAKOTA?????????????????  Give it up Harry....and take Stone with you.

Just my $0.02.
Neff
From: earutter@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Ethan Rutter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: AMATEUR: Miskatonic slaughters opponent - It's Grim.
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:13:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Vanderbilt University Mathematics Department

In article <15612@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Not Just For The Dead Huckabay) writes:
>The linescore....
>
>Miskatonic 333 842 - 23 29 0
>Far Slide  000 000 -  0  1 1
>
>Sometimes, it's important for a league coordinator to bump people out
>of the league. Game called after six, due to seven-run rule.
>

Well you guys are just fucking awesome, aren't you?  You just think
you're Nolan Ryan, don't you?

>Pitching mechanics update:  My heater was NOT back last night.

Well, maybe I've misinterpreted his post.

>I couldn't get my leg drive in sync with my shoulder and elbow release, 
>as usual, and was throwing 72-73 most of the night, as usual.  

Oops.  I think I've vastly misinterpreted his post.  Is it too late for me
to hang my head in .net.shame?

Sorry, Gary.  Maybe next time I'll read your other posts so I'll have
some clue what your real intention is.

oops.dummy
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From: dtate+@pitt.edu (David M Tate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: All 6th-best team
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:05:47 GMT
Organization: Factors of Ys, Inc.

In article <EeRcs8W00WBM01Aro3@andrew.cmu.edu> nm20+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nolan McCarty) writes:
>
>>Texas: Sierra, Palmeiro, Gonzalez, Palmer, Brown  (except they'd have to
>>	protect Ryan, or be stormed by irate fans...)
> 
>>	C	Sandy Alomar		Indians
>>	1B	Kent Hrbek		Twins
>
>    Since I. Rodriguez would not be protected by Texas, wouldn't you
>rather have him than Sandy Alomar. 

Ack!

Good point.  This was obviously an oversight.  

Actually, I think what would happen is that Texas would protect Rodriguez
in place of (say) Palmeiro.  (For that matter, the Indians might just be dumb
enough to protect Alomar...)


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From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Where have all the flakes gone?
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 04:06:33 GMT

In article <54753@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, poutsmaj@mace.cc.purdue.edu (unknown) writes:
>In article <22597@oasys.dt.navy.mil> kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat) writes:
>>In rec.sport.baseball, U39730@uicvm.uic.edu (Norma Kateeb) writes:
>>>Are there any modern day flakes left in baseball?
>>>Okay fans--is there anyone today--be it player, manager, GM, umpire--
>>>ANYONE who adds some life and fun to the game today?
>>
>My mind can't think of the name right now but I recall a very loud NL
>umpire who uses an exxagerated motion when calling balls and strikes
>(pardon the euphemisms).  What is his name?

Sounds like Dutch Rennert. Not only is his motion exaggerated, so is
his ball/strike call.  STRI-I-I-I-K-K-K-E   T-W-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-!!!!!!!

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From: 91287041@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (roger maynard)
Subject: Re: Value of Stats - What a party!!!
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:10:05 GMT

Every couple of months these arguments are brought out and shined up like
silverware at thanksgiving.  Everyone has something to say...great stuff...

Haven't heard from the Hairclub President though.  Maybe this will 
wake the slumbering bear.

A couple of days ago Buck Martinez, former catcher, turned broadcaster for
the Toronto Blue Jays, told all of Canada that Carney Lansford is one of
the BEST fielding 3bmen in the AL.  And Buck should know.  He was a former
player after all and anyone who listens to him knows that he is knowledgable
and articulate.

rm

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