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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Ooroo
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 11:44:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

You say I must be from NSW 'cos I say hooroo.  True, but I was born a
banana-bender -- got out when I saw Joh coming, back in '44!
(I was a perceptive 6-month-old)



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From: Chris.Rowan@f2.n3820.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Rowan)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: School BBS
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 16:21:30 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3820/2 - The Lyceum, Brownsville TX

*** Quoting Edward Dunagin to Chris Rowan ***

ED> I was wondering what BBS software you are using. I am using

I use Telegard and Front Door for _The Lyceum_ (1:3820/2) and Fido software for the _Morningside K12 BBS_ in our school library.  Fido takes up a lot of disk space, but we're running the BBS on an AT 486 (!) with 110 meg of disk space.

Disk space isn't much of a problem now.

ED> two other school districts here in Central Ohio are using WC!

How are your school districts utilizing computer telecommunications?  Does each school have its own BBS?  Do teachers correspond with each other via Netmail?

I'm trying to get a district-wide BBS network set up here in Brownsville. I will be giving a presentation on K12Net and TENET this coming Tuesday and Wednesday to a group of some 90 student teachers.

Wish me luck!!

                                             Best regards,
                                             Chris


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From: Deborah.Roussell@f164.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Deborah Roussell)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: GR. 7 PENPALS
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 09:12:09 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/164 - SpaceMet Hatfield, Hatfield MA

Hi Michael, I teach 6th grade in Hatfield, Ma. U.S.A. Do you think your 
students would want to telecommunicate with my class? Let me know.
Deborah Roussell


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From: Linda.Klughart@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Klughart)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: msg #513
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 92 17:09:47 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

Message 513? Just to show you how observant I am, I hadn't noticed! I just trusted my computer to come up with the right numbers. However, I don't plan on discussing my being observant with you again...isn't that how this all started???
Anyway, where were you when you picked up this tic (k)? Is the dimple in a publicly noticeable spot?
Later...
Linda 


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From: Debbie.Hare@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Debbie Hare)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: proposals
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 20:15:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

Hey all you teachers who are waking up from summer vacation!  Please 
read message #490 and respond.  We are three teachers working on a
masters degree and need your help. 
Thanks, Debbie Hare Seattle, Wa.

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From: meehan@apsicc.aps.edu (voxet praeterea nihil)
Subject: university hub concept
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 05:16:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Your idea sounds interesting. The university here wrote a grant for
a BBS for "teachers" here, did nothing with it other than get some computers
for staff members' desks. There was so little support or participation
by university faculty, use dwindled appallingly (except for faculty email
to each other) that classroom teachers don't bother.

The university as a "hub" of the community here? Only if it gives free
computers and e mail to the faculty AND if they can avoid being bothered
by having to read postings!!

Sorry to sound so jaded. That's the way it is with most grant $ I see.
Fund yourselves and forget who it REALLY is supposed to benefit.
Frankly I will never take another education course. It is beneath me.
Instead I tutor those in graduate programs. I just have the BS.

As for future hires as teachers??? Just give give me someone with an IQ
over 120 who has grown up and worked with kids for years and you can keep
your education departments. 

carolyn
From: Linda.Klughart@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Klughart)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Channel 1
Date: Sun,  6 Sep 92 22:30:27 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

Hello, John: I owe my sysop a large apology. Apparently I've had access to the channels all along. They've been under area 66 on our BBS -
 who'd have thunk it???
Anyway, I spent a few minutes "speed" reading, and enjoyed the whimseys. Take care now.
Linda



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From: Andy.Vanduyne@p1.f75.n2608.z1.fidonet.org (Andy Vanduyne)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: penpals
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 11:09:56 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2608/75.1 - Norkids BBS, Norwood NY

* Quoting  ...Ian Bishop of 3:640/371
* Orig. To ...Keith Bobbitt
* Posted   ...Sun, Aug 30 92 at 23:42

KB>> > Carol Shields
KB>> > "A Clean Desk Is A Sign Of A Boring Teacher!"

KB>>Actually, a clean desk is a sign of being very well organized.

 IB> People with the biggest mess do the MOST WORK!!!!

 IB> Regards, Ian


I have a very messy desk.  For years the principal in my school would write me 
up for it at the year-end evaluation.  We changed administrator's a couple 
years ago, and the current guy has a much different style.  His reaction was 
to give me a 'bumper sticker' that reads 'Genius thrives on clutter'.



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From: Roberta.Hawkins@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Roberta Hawkins)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Exchanging Data/Telecom
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 12:32:05 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

I am interested in getting my class involved in investigating what 
other students do during their summer vacation or during extended 
time away from school.  We would like to contact others within and 
beyond the state of Washington to help collect some data about this. 
 Is any class/teacher interested in sharing data and communicating 
on this or related information?

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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: PROPOSALS                
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 13:28:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Debbie,

Just to help you, and others who have done the same thing in this area,
in a message adressed to ALL you say:

-> Hey all you teachers who are waking up from summer vacation!  Please
-> read message #490 and respond.
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^

Since these echos are distributed to BBSs all around the world, the
messages usually have different message numbers on each BBS. The BBS I
am participating on doesn't even HAVE a message 490. Ours are in the
5000 to 6000 range. Best bet is to say who the message was from/to on
what date and what topic. Then people should be able to find it.

Hope this helps,
Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                                                             

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From: John.Feltham@f702.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Small rural schools
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 20:27:22 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/702 - Grammar BBS, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Tom, 

I'm having a little problem with my feed, so I have logged on to his BBS.

I don't remember if I have answered your question about the K12Net Library.

If not, here it is. Please get in contact with Rob Reilly in this echo. He is the "Keeper of the Library".

You will require access to a Colorada type Tape Back-up unit with QIK type format. And also minimum 130Mb of disk space.

ooroo


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From: Jim.Lagerquist@f80.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Lagerquist)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: WRITING
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 21:39:56 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/80 - Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA

Helen - Thanks for the clarification regarding student use of the Language Arts
area.  
Jim


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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: science
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 22:14:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

Chantal a #crit:
CC>Je recherche de l'information au niveau de la cinquieme annee en science.  L
CC>sujet etudie est les changements chimiques.

Qu'est-ce que c'est, cette cinquieme ann#e?  Quel age ont les #l#ves?
J'ai oubli# la pluspart de mon fran#ais, h#las!  <sourire>
(En Australie, il n'y a pas beaucoup de Francophones.)

Au revoir (fran#ais pour "hooroo")
A bient#t  (??)




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From: Rick.Scriven@f55.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Scriven)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: pen-pals
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 12:53:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/55 - The Quest, Marysville Wa

Hi Tom,
Here is my class list:
Adam Nondorf
Amanda Park
Beau Somers 
Beth Bice
Brent Johansen
Bruno Berkheimer
Chris Wojcik (boy)
Crystal Anderson
Eric Catlett
Jennifer Konkler
Jill Hudgkins
Kristin Ohnstad
Melissa Horner
Michael Masse
Michael Wardwell
Mike Conyers
Nathan McNicholas
Nicole Sickler
Phillip Olson
Raymond Kanekeberg
Rheanna Guevara
Rob Sartore
Sasha Conner
Scott Campbell
Tim Dubuc
So...this is them to date.  Your students will have to write them 
care of me so that my students will get their mail.  Let's send 
them in the k-12 elementary chat area.  Does that sound ok?  
This should be fun.  Be hearing from you!
Your pen-pal,
Rick

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From: jmd9888@zeus.tamu.edu (DURHAM, JAMES MICHAEL)
Subject: HELP!!!!  I need some help on a project
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:55:00 GMT


 Howdy,
      First let me introduce myself, My name is Michael Durham.  I am currently
 working with some fine folks here at Texas A&M in developing ways that 
 industry can help the schools.  Primarily I work with grades 1 - 4 in the area
 of science.  I will be going into the classroom once a week, the first week I 
 will be in a first grade class the second week a second grade class and so on
 untill by the 5th week I will go back to the first grade class that I worked 
 with during the first week.  I see that there are quite a few elementary school
 teachers on this net so here is my question.  If you had $20,000 to spend for 
 science experiments what would you try to do.  (ie. purchase microscopes 
 instead of just hand magnifiers).  Now keep in mind that I need to be able to 
 run experiments in all four grade levels so it would be really helpful if the
 labs would be able to build upon each other.  For example if I was to use micro-
 scopes in the first grade class then the following week I would want to do the
 same kind of lab just a little more indepth.

 Any help would be greatfully appreciated.

 Thanks in advance,
 Michael
From: Sue.Woodruff@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Sue Woodruff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: A favor please/GOOD LUCK
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 23:24:58 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

I can't think of a better way to motivate kids right now.  My daughter is in 7th grade and the first thing she does is run to the mail box.  "DID I GET ANY MAIL?"  is usually the first thing she says.  Well, the same goes for E-Mail.  I teach special education at the high school level.  I introduced my kids to the BBS and am really hoping it catches on.  Several kids have already asked to stay after school to use it!  

Good luck on your inservice.  If this does nothing more than get kids comfortable on the computer, it's worth it.  But just think - they must read, write, spell, and think, too!

Sincerely,

Sue Woodruff


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From: Roberta.Hawkins@f58.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Roberta Hawkins)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Exchanging Data/Telecom
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 15:32:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/58 - Silver Lake, Everett WA

JL> Roberta,
JL> For your exchanging data idea - what grade level(s) are you
JL> aiming at?  I  may
JL> have a few interested teachers at both the primary and
JL> intermediate levels.
JL> Let me know.
JL> Jim

JL> --- Tabby 2.2
JL>  * Origin: Auburn Ed-Net, Auburn WA (206-931-4821)  
JL> (1:343/80)
The courses I teach involve students in grades 10-12 but I have no 
particular problem having exchanges with students from different 
grade levels since I do spend a fair amount of time "trying" to get 
students involved with "audience" and differences in responding to 
and communicating with differenct audiences.  So....if you know of 
some interest I would welcome knowing about it.  One topic might be 
new T.V. series or local news issues too.
Thanks, for the response    Roberta

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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Too Much Trash, Etc.
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 10:43:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY

DK>"Too Much Trash" and "Acid Rain" have been tried in our district
(Edmonton, DK>Alberta, Canada). Definitely worth it! A simple way to
get into telecomm, DK>relatively inexpensive, reguires an Apple IIGS
to use the software, the DK>teachers I talk too who use it say there
is more in the teacher package than DK>they have time to do during
the project time - the schedule comes from Nat. DK>Geog. and must be
adhered to. If YOU do not get your info. in on time it DK>affects
everyone else, since much of the project involves comparision with
DK>other places. DK>I hope your people go for it.

Anyone want to try to develop something similar to these right here
in K12net?

We have 12 Channels waiting for things like this.....!

Go fer it! :-)

=jack=


 * SLMR 2.1a * 

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From: Kevin.Mccluskey@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Mccluskey)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: RESTRUCTURING
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 20:44:31 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Has NewYork State installed a new computer system in all public 
schools...something to do with IBM?

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From: Linda.Klughart@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Klughart)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Address lines
Date: Sun,  6 Sep 92 22:38:18 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

Can anyone tell me why the final lines of the messages, containing the origin of the message, just flashes across my screen? I can't hang on to them long enough to read them. Is there an adjustment I need to make?
Look forward to your help,
Linda



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From: Tom.Winn@f10.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Winn)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: proposals
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 23:52:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/10 - The HOLE in the WAL, Mount Vernon WA

 DH>   Please read message #490 and respond.
Debbie,  A little point that will help communications-- message numbers
are only applicable to the message base at your BBS.  So, each of us out
here sees a different number on each message.

If you wish to refer to a certain message on the echo for all on the echo
to refer to, you need to use the "Subject" or "Topic" entry. 8) ...Tom



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From: Harry.Tuttle@f650.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Harry Tuttle)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Restructuring
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 09:51:24 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/650 - School Board, Hornell NY

I am very interested in learning what other schools are doing to 
restructure and will share what I know and have seen.  I feel that so 
many schools are doing great things but we never hear about them 
and therefore cannot learn from them.
For example, we restructured 8th grade science since we could not 
change the whole school.  This year the 7th grade is going 
interdiscplinary because of our attempts. We are changing science to 
hands-on open-ended science where students design their own 
experiments. The students work in cooperative learning groups and use 
the computer network to record their findings and to look up the 
findings of other groups. Students frequently use databases, 
spreadsheets, and graphs to ask "What would happen if...."  They have 
used computer simulations to create their own universe. Technology has 
been a cornerstone of their change.  
Please share mini-restructuring or whole school restructuring!


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From: Tom.Winn@f10.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Winn)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: MathMagic Levels=?
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 16:28:41 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/10 - The HOLE in the WAL, Mount Vernon WA

Carol,
  Just got your listings of problems.  There's one thing I can't figure
out -- how to tell what problem is for what grade.  Seems like I read
that the grade will be listed on the "Subject" line.  If it's supposed
to be there, our "Subject" line must be shorter than yours,
and is cutting it off.  Could we shorten the titles to squeeze it in,
or somehow add these?  How about something like "MaMg PCyc12 grGr 3",
or something like that?  Or maybe you've done away with levels and I
missed it!  arol, Thanks--the whole thing is a great idea!
 Tom Winn  La Conner Elementary & Middle Schools, La Conner, WA
 (206) 466-3172
By the way, I tried to post this in CH2 but got an error message saying
that area is READ ONLY.  Is this correct, or should I talk to my SYSOP
and see if he can fix it?  I should be able to post directly into Ch2,
right?  Thanks ...Tom



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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Saturday, 5 Sep 1992 16:47:11 EDT
From: Howard B. Vigneault <345J7OE@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Small rural schools

In article <20981.2AA66F92@puddle.fidonet.org>,
John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham) says:
>
>G'day Robin!
>
>Friday August 28 1992, Robin Bain writes to Howard B. Vigneault:
>
> > The area we are in has many people on very low incomes and if we
> > are to provide telecommunications equipment and experiences for the
> > children , any ideas will be welcome.
>
>Sounds like you could do with the K12Net Software Library (about 130Mb).
>
>ooroo

WOW!  Thanks John...I must have missed this message somehow!  Sorry Robin.
We are also a 'poor' rural district.  We got started in telecommunications
for under $1000 (thats equipment, telephone, software...the works!).  We
simple put in a fredmail node.  If your interested, let me know where your
located and I'll tell you more

Bruce Vigneault


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From: haneins@acf3.nyu.edu (shirley hanein)
Subject: telecom and networking and teacher education
Organization: New York University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 00:05:53 GMT

HI,

I may not be posting to the right group but, such is life.

I was wondering if any teachers out there had any formal 
instruction, as part of their teacher ed curriculum atn
their universities, colleges, or teacher seminaries, 
on incorporating networking and telecom into their
curricula. 

i'm taking an informal survey for a future research
project.

any help you could provide would be most appreciated.

sincerely,
shirley hanein
From: Tom.Winn@f10.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Winn)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: telecom and networking an
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 07:15:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/10 - The HOLE in the WAL, Mount Vernon WA

 SH> I was wondering if any teachers out there had any formal
 SH> instruction, as part of their teacher ed curriculum atn their
 SH> universities, colleges, or teacher seminaries, on incorporating
 SH> networking and telecom into their curricula.
Hi Shirley,
  In response to your question, I had no exposure to telecomm, in fact
none to computers at all in my general ed teaching certification program,
but then that was waayy back in '75.  However, I became interested in
computing, took some classes, spent many hours discovering, and then
finally enrolled in Lesley College's "Outreach Program", Receiving a
Master's in "Computers in Education".  Included in the classes I took for
that program was one on telecommunications.  I had heard about it before
and was curious, but that class gave me the hands-on experience to get
started, and now I'm hooked.  Oh yes, the kids love it too! :)
  The Lesley College (Cambridge, Mass) program was excellent.  The classes
were just what I needed at that time, since I was just getting the job of
being elementary computer teacher and lab manager.  Also, the intensive
weekend format in a town nearby made it possible to get the training
during the year (when it can be put to immediate use), and didn't require
large chunks of summer for years, as most programs seem to.  It was so
successful in our state that the state schools complained to the Higher Ed
Board, which put pressure on Lesley to cut back.  Too bad the colleges
didn't jump ON the wagon instead of trying to break the wheels!
Tom Winn
La Conner Schools
La Conner, WA 98257

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From: Tom.Winn@f10.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Winn)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Small rural schools
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 20:05:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/10 - The HOLE in the WAL, Mount Vernon WA

 JF> Sounds like you could do with the K12Net Software Library (about
 JF> 130Mb).
Hey John, could you tell us a little about this Software Library?  Like
where is it, what's in it, is it public domain, etc.
  In particular, I'm looking for a piece of software that you can boot on
a machine, and using which kids can leave messages for each other.  I
found one some time back called Message Center, but it had some irritating
quirks.  Know of anything like that in the Apple II world?  Mac?
   Thanks!  ...Tom in mountainous Washington State (where it's snowing at
4000 feet right now!)..


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