From: phantom@gagme.chi.il.us (Leif Ericksen)
Subject: BAD A$$ Karate, a call to end this garbage
Originator: phantom@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 08:29:27 GMT

	I have a few comments to make about what has been going on here!
This is truly annoying and if it has not yet ended it should soon!
what is it you may ask that I am talking about???  WELL BAD A$$ KARATE.

		When you seek it, you can not find it.
					- ZEN RIDDLE

	OK, everybody can be in a karate that can be considered BAD A$$ BUT
the true essance of the martial arts is not to fight but to avoid the fight.
OR when a conflict arises it is to defend ones self with out harming your 
opponent.  NOW, I have seen a few things here that seemed to state that ANY
MA can be considered BAD A$$ Karate, but it depends upon the fighter, THIS
is VERY TURE.  WHAT you need is a tactition that is OPEN to watch several
diferent styles and learns HIS OWN FLAWS that may be encountered as he is
pit against someone of a different art.  BRUCE LEE was like this, after all
he was a top fighter, YET HE was BEATEN BY A JUDO-KA, this pi$$ed him off
some what so he studdied the idea and terms of JUDO to expand his 
abbilities.  ( I read that in BB magazine sorry I forget year and issue )

	NOW, take TRUE Tai Kick Boxing I met somebody that study it IN
TAIWAN in the back woods, there he had to KICK a LIVE (GREEN) BAMBOO tree
that was close to 6in in diameter untill it broke. ( THIS MAY BE A LIE
BUT I HAVE HEARD OF IT MANY TIMES FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES; AS HOW THEY
TRAIN THAT I BELIVE IT )  so that seems to be pretty mean.  
I also met somebody that durring the military he was in france and trained in
SAVATE ( THIS WAS AROUND VIET NAM FOR THIS GUY, I met him about 5 years ago )
and he says that is a very mean art.  AND gave me an example by saying watch
BLOOD SPORT, after all they have just about everry art represented!
you can name them, Karate, JUJITSU, HAPKIDO, MONKEY KUNG FU, ETC, ETC.

	NOW as for Philippino knife fighters, I was told by my Karate
instructor ( 4th DAN, and first DAN in Iaido ( way of death, swords ))  that
the best knife fighters are the philippino  and more than likely they 
would cut a STREET KNIFE FIGHTER TO SHREADS.

	AS for street fighters, they can KICK BUTT on most MA people
I have a friend that BEAT a Tae Kwon Do BB. ( ABSORBED THE KICK AND 
BROKE THE LEG, after he already ABSORBED a punch and broke the GUYS ARM! )
STREET FIGHTING; Chicago, New York, ETC.  IS BAD for the most part your
best defense is to run like HE!! after all a street fighter has no rules,
Kick in the groin, grab an antena of the nearest car, or BRICKS, or cinder
stones, chains, knifes, guns, a bit of sand or dirt thrown in the face
and if you are not used to fighting blind you can say good night IREANE!

	My mom is a nurse and she worked with a Black Man (Afro-American
if you prefer ) that had a knife would in the GUT, she freaked HE SAID
NO BIGGIE, this happens all the time where I come from.  ALSO in a street
fight a guy would not think twice about bighting off your EAR or NOSE!
so tell me HOW many of you ever thought about that fact either doing it
or having it done to you.  FIND some people you know that might be
of the street level ask them about fights in the street, and see what would 
happen.  AFTER all it is VERY MEAN IN the streets.

	NOW to explain the idea of a good tactition learn the story about the
three brothers that were Martial Artists or send me Email and I will relate the
story to you, if I can not find the exact story I will do it by memory!

	Just so you all know I am a ShotoKan Karate-ka, that is 4th Q or
High purple, I have three brown Belts than Black if you dont know what 4th Q
means.
	ALSO, even though I do not fully agree with everything (religiouis)
ideals of Zen and the Martial Arts try reading it if you havent it is very  
interesting, and the Author is Joe Hyams.
  
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Leif Ericksen
phantom@gagme.chi.il.us

 You may train for a long time, but if you mereley move your hands and feet
and jump up and down like a puppet, learning karate is not very different from
learning a dance.  You will never have reached the heart of the matter; you 
will have failed to grasp the quintessence of karate-do
					- Gichin Funakoshi
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Leif Ericksen
phantom gagme.chi.il.us

	Christopher Columbus is a lie, he borrowed a Norwegian MAP!  Then he
stole all the credit for the discovery of America.  But since he could not read
Norwegian he messed up and ended up down around the Behamahs instead of up 
around Newfoudland and New England.
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