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From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Tk)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: My friend has this boxwood
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:06:13 GMT
Reply-To: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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Simple information on the Boxwood, as requested...
(from... The Creative Art of Bonsai)

Boxwood (aka Buxus)

Native to Asia and the Mediterranean Basin - Evergreen

Light?		some light, but NOT direct sun...  shade in summer

Temperature?	above 54 degrees (fine for indoors or outdoors)

Ventilation?	shield from wind, avoid drafts

Container?	deeper than other trees of similar size...

Growth?		SLOW

Repot?		Every second year in spring (april/may) - trim roots by half

Soil		equal portions of heath mould, leaf mould, loam, and course sand

Pruning?	cut back new growth to two leaf pairs when it reaches 5 or 6 pairs

watering?	water copiuosly, but allow soil to dry out between waterings

misting?	mist foliage daily

feeding?	slow acting organic fertilizer in spring and autumn, feed once in
		winter if it's kept in a warm climate (or indoors)...

Good luck!

Tk
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Subject: Re: Chinese Elms
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:05:38 GMT

In article <1iniejINNhat@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ct076@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael T. Loos) writes:
  [...]
>I've read Dirr's manual about the tree, but he doesn't really cover 
>taking cuttings. (Maybe the propagation manual does but I don't
>hhave a copy of that.)  Adams' Bonsai Design etc. gives some 
  [...]


  A couple of people have asked me about Michael Dirr's two
  books mentioned in the chinese elm propagation post.  Here
  is the information.  Neither is concerned directly with 
  bonsai, but there's a great deal of useful information
  about growth and habit of most woody plants found in the
  US.

  The smaller and probably cheaper of the two is the one most
  likely to be useful to bonsai enthusiasts.  I don't have
  a price on it, but it is a softback.  I've used it a lot
  for successful propagations by cuttings and protocols for
  seed germinations.
  It's  _The Reference Manual of Woody Plant Propagation_
  (From seed to tissue culture)  by M.A. Dirr and C.W. Heuser,Jr.  
  Varsity Press, Inc., ISBN 0-942375-00-9; and that company address
  is PO Box 6301 Athens GA 30604 .  Pub date is 1987.

  Dirr's "big book" is more of a description of species of woody 
  plants; propagation is only one small aspect.  Other things:
  plant descriptions (no identifying pictures), habitats,
  growth parameters, culture,  landscape value are part of
  the description.  It is not an identification text.  It
  is called _Manual of Woody Landscape Plants: Their Identification
  Ornamental Characteristics, Culture, Propagation, and Uses_ by
  M. A. Dirr.  More than 1000 pages.  Stipes Publishing Co.
  I don't have the price on the book, but imagine it's in the
  range of $40-$50.  


  Wayne


Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: tmkelly@shootist.EBay.Sun.COM (Tk)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: Broom style
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:46:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article 53F@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca, chai@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Tippi Chai) writes:
> I have a question about the "Broom" style.  I've only seen examples
> in pictures, so I don't know what it should look like from a top view.
> Should it be more open (flat) towards the front and fuller (rounder)
> towards the back?  or be more or less oval shaped?
> 
>         /-----\           /-------\
>        /       \         /         \
> i.e.  /_________\   vs   \         /  seen from the top?
>          front            \-------/


Tippi,
	Broom styles should be pretty much uniform (oval or circular) when viewed
	from the top...  at least that is my understanding from text references and
	one instructor.

	They will have a preferred "front" based on the trunk and branching
	pattern(s), of course.


Tk


Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: aldridge@netcom.com (Jacquelyn Aldridge)
Subject: Re: bonsaied fruit trees
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:12:13 GMT

ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez) writes:

>I am an avid fruitgrower (fanatical hobbyist) with a longtime fascination
>for bonsai (and completely intimidated by it.)

>Are there any special skills/techniques required for turning fruit trees
>into bonsai?  Any problems (other than the hugeness of certain fruits against
>the smallness of a bonsai) to be encountered?

>I am aware that fruit bonsai could be limited to small-fruited/leafed
>species such as kumquats and natal plum but I am interested in in trying
>other things.  Can bonsai be on a slightly larger scale and still be 
>considered bonsai?  (i.e. large enough so that oranges or apples
>would not look ridiculously huge).

	Well, orange trees look like round bushes and usually don't have
interesting forms. There are dwarf types as small as three feet. Apples can
develop interesting forms but usually take decades to develop
character. A crabapple would probably look interesting. Persimmons can be
beautiful. 
--Jackie--
.
From: johnson@swings.enet.dec.com (Dennis M. Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Re: Dying Juniper Bonsai, please help
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:00:54 GMT
Reply-To: johnson@swings.enet.dec.com (Dennis M. Johnson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Um, with brown needles and falling off your juniper is probably best classified 
as dead.

San Diego is pretty far south (compared to NH :-) Summer time I'd have watered
it twice a day and also misted it. In NH I found that a watering in the morning
and a misting in the evening was just barely about right for my juniper. And
it definitely needed some plant food.

Try again. It's worth it.

Dj
From: kam@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Kam Mok)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Penjing Sources Wanted
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:59:02 GMT
Distribution: alt.bonsai
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.


Penjing Sources Wanted.

I am looking for mail orders that sell penjing stuff.
Briefly, penjing = bonsai + landscapes (miniature mountains and water, made
                                          with stones & rocks)
I am looking for the penjing supplies like trays, rocks, stones and figures.
I am specially looking for a miniature water pump for making water falls in
the penjing which I saw in HongKong many years ago.
Anyone knows about this kind of pump ?
Information on importing Penjing stuff is also wanted.

Thanks in advance for any information.

kam@inmet.camb.inmet.com
Boston
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Subject: Re: Chinese Elms
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:56:24 GMT

In article <1iniejINNhat@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ct076@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael T. Loos) writes:
>
>I'm Going to be starting Chinese elms from cuttings this year.
>Last year I had moderate success with growing them from seed, but 
>I found a particularly nice tree in the wild and I'd like to
>get a few clones growing. (The seeds were from the same tree.)
>I've read Dirr's manual about the tree, but he doesn't really cover 
>taking cuttings. (Maybe the propagation manual does but I don't
>hhave a copy of that.)  Adams' Bonsai Design etc. gives some 
>additional info., but doesn't really give a time frame.  

  From Dirr's propogation manual:
>
>       1.  Softwood vs. Hardwood.  Which is better? easiest?
>       2.  When is the best time to take hardwood cuttings?
>           I live in Cleveland, Ohio.  Most of the area is
>           zone 5 with parts being zone 6 (USDA)  
>       3.  Which strength is best? IBA 1.6 , 3.0 , or 4.5 %

   spring and summer cuttings, 6-12 inches long cut to 3-6 inches
   and bottom 2-3 leaves  removed leaving minimum of 5 leaves 
   at top.  Early morning prep (to avoid wilting) with 4000 ppm 
   NAA-amide-talc,  under mist/hight humidity.  Or 8000 ppm
   IBA (talc or quick dip).  6-10 weeks.  Specific anecdote:
   48% rooting from July cutting of 10-12 year old plants
   with 8000 ppm IBA quick dip.  Notes large clonal differences
   in propagation by rooting. 

>I'd like to try  U. carpinifolia from cuttings. Will it be the 
>same treatment?  How 'bout  Juniperus ch. Blaauw?
>
   U. carpinifolia - rooting confined to suckers.    5 inch 
   terminal softwood from young trees, 1000 ppm IBA, under
   mist.

   Warns that elm roots are brittle; rooted plants are often
   hard to overwinter.  Suggests layering as alternative to
   rooting cuttings.

   J. ch. blaauw:  very difficult to root.  success for 
   6-12 inch long pencil thick cuttings (better than smaller
   2-4 inch cuttings).  Under mist, outside, and with 3000
   ppm IBA solution.  Susceptible to rot.  Also suggests 6-8
   inch cuttings, 8000 ppm IBA-talc.

   I've just copied this stuff down.  I really suggest getting
   Dirr's propagation manual.  Between that and his big book,
   I haven't failed to find propagation hints for anything I've
   looked for.

   Wayne
From: mattb@sdd.hp.com (Matt Bonner)
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
Subject: Dying Juniper Bonsai, please help
Date: 5 Jan 1993 00:01:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
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Hi,

I have a juniper bonsai that I bought at a nursery, and it seems
to be dying.  Most of the needles have turned brown and are falling
off, but otherwise the plant looks okay.  Is it actually dying or
do they just do that during the winter?  The sheet that came with it 
said to leave it outside and water it often and give it partial 
sunlight, and I think I have been doing all of those things, although
maybe I have not been watering it enough lately.  However, I didn't 
give it any plant food during the summer months, so I'm wondering if 
maybe that's part of the problem.  Also, does anyone know how often is
good to water them?  I was doing it daily, but lately it's been
more like every 2 or 3 days.  The temperatures here lately have been
lows around 35F/1C, highs around 65F/20C.

I'd appreciate any suggestions, and also where to find the
FAQ, if there is one.  I see several people asking...

Thanks,
Matt
-- 
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Hewlett-Packard Company      |  Snail: 16399 West Bernardo Drive
Ink-jet Components Division  |         San Diego, CA  92127-1899
Newsgroups: alt.bonsai
From: an1411@anon.penet.fi (Star Rider)
Subject: FAQ part 4 of 5
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:50:29 GMT

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ISBN 0-8128-6008-X

Four Seasons of Bonsai
by Kyuzo Murata

The Beginner's Guide to American Bonsai
By Jerald P. Stowell
ISBN 0-87011-326-7

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Compiled by Directors of The Japan Bonsai Association
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Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton,pnw.general
From: ellene@microsoft.com (Ellen Mitsue Eades)
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton won't send his daughter to public schools
Date: 06 Jan 93 20:17:50 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

>>I thought that Amy Carter went to public school.  Can anyone else remember
>>that far back?
>
>That's right, and she was the last one to do so.


She was also the last kid of public-school age to live in the White
House till now.  Reagan and Bush didn't have school-age kids. I think
Tricia and Julie Nixon were also past school-age while in the White
House (correct me if I'm wrong) ... anyone remember about Lynda Bird?

Caroline Kennedy was barely five and John Kennedy III was a toddler.
I don't think Ike and Mamie Eisenhower had kids.  Harry Truman's
daughter Margaret was embarking on a stage career during his presidency.

How many kids of public-school age have there actually BEEN in the
White House, anyway?
-- 
Ellen Eades					Microsoft Corporation
"Just call me F.G.M.  I hate excess verbiage."  _Twice Upon a Time_
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton,pnw.general
From: steven@advtech.uswest.com ( Steve Novak)
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton won't send his daughter to public schools
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:42:12 GMT

> = (Joe Bob) writes:
>> = (John R Mudd) writes:

>>I thought that Amy Carter went to public school.  Can anyone else remember
>>that far back?

>  That's right, and she was the last one to do so.

No kidding.  Reagan and Bush had no school-aged kids :).

-- 
+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
| Steve Novak |    |"Wacker the K"| 
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From: robart@agora.rain.com (Joe Bob)
Newsgroups: alt.president.clinton,pnw.general
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton won't send his daughter to public schools
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:53:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.C0F74C.23n
Distribution: usa
Organization: a gora

In article <C0Ev03.408@pgroup.com> jrm@pgroup.com (John R Mudd) writes:
>In article <crystal.726283133@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>>Likely the reason is more due to security and fear of the daughter getting 
>>harrassed or kidnapped or something.  That's not something a parent will admit
>>in public, but it's not unreasonable for a President's child.  As a govenor,
>>there was nothing to fear...now there could be.
>
>I thought that Amy Carter went to public school.  Can anyone else remember
>that far back?


  That's right, and she was the last one to do so.
From: damouth@wrc.xerox.com (David E. Damouth)
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: Re: Publishing Articles Through the Net
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:46:35 GMT
Reply-To: damouth@wrc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Webster Research Center

Several all-electronic professional journals already exist, some
refereed and some not. Some have subscription fees, and some are free,
staffed by volunteers.

A recent note on some other newsgroup announced that the Federal
Government was beta testing a system to make government publications
and other information from many agencies searchable and retrievable
over the Internet.

As more network-based commercial ventures appear, the pressure will
increase  for government to stop subsidizing the network itself.  If a
publishing venture and its customers had to pay a fair share of the
actual cost of operating the Internet, it's not clear that it would
yield an economical product except in specialized niches.

An alternate publishing method is also appearing - CDROM.  It may be
cheaper to distribute collections of current literature to local
libraries on CDROMs, allowing local downloads from a highly distributed
document collection.  University Microfilms, and perhaps others, are
experimenting with this now.  UMI has all the IEEE journals on CDROM,
with search and browse software bundled in.  Typical use today is to
search and browse on a CRT display, then print the articles you really
want.  This could easily, and perhaps economically, be done on fast
local area networks although the present systems are non-networked
standalone workstations.

Or perhaps Internet protocols  and software will be redesigned to
provide  inexpensive deferred delivery of bulk data, sent only when the
resources would otherwise be idle (sort of analagous to the subsidized
delivery of magazines and books by US Postal Service, but with a
sounder economic justification).  Again, I suspect this would be used
to fill local shared repositories from which the actual user search and
retrieval would occur.

The real challenge is in finding an inexpensive yet reliable method of
insuring quality.  The editorial and refereeing process in present
paper journals is a large fraction of the cost of publishing (but also
a large fraction of the *value* of these publications). With an
exponentially growing amount of information available on the net, what
users will pay for is not raw information.  Rather, they will pay for a
filtering service  that delivers them only articles that have passed
some reliable test of relevance, importance, and acccuracy.   If there
is a valuable new commercial service, I think its seeds will lie in
this quality control process.

---
/Dave
David E. Damouth
Xerox Webster Research Center
damouth@wrc.xerox.com
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Newsgroups: alt.wais,list.wais-discussion
From: nenno@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Mario Nenno [Biologie])
Subject: How to create an own document-type ? Documentation, Examples ?
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:12:35 GMT

Hallo,

I'm looking for a good documentation, describing the definition of a
new document-type. Especially examples like 'medline','biojournal','refer'
are prefered.

Thank you for your time,

Mario Nenno (nenno@rhrk.uni-kl.de)
From: asher@wam.umd.edu (Yes it's me....Asher)
Newsgroups: alt.wais
Subject: Boolean searches on WAIS
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:34:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park


	Hi !
	           I'm new to WAIS and was wondering if there is any
        way to do Booleans searches on WAIS. More specifically, I'm
        interested in 'AND'. For example, if I want to know about 
        IBM tapes, is there any way I can specify to get articles that
        deal with IBM AND tapes ??? Any help on this would be greatly
        appreciated. Thanks.


                                                        .......Asher.
Newsgroups: alt.wais,list.wais-discussion
From: francois@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Francois Schiettecatte)
Subject: Wais and AUX
Organization: Welch Medical Library
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:03:44 GMT


I would like to hear from anyone who had gotten 
the wais server (-8-b5) running on Apple's 
AUX 3.0 Specifically I would like to know
which C compiler was used and what changes 
need to be made to the source code for it
to compile correctly.


thanks

Francois Schiettecatte
Software Engineer
Advanced Technology Group
Welch Medical Library
Johns Hopkins University
Internet: francois@library.welch.jhu.edu
Phone	: (410) 955-7581

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: brownt@seq.uncwil.edu (brown todd francis)
Subject: Re: One way to lose lucidity....
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:50:03 GMT

katherim@fraser.sfu.ca (Katherine Merle Mason) writes:

>Last night I dreamed I was dreaming again.  This is a strange phenomenon
>and is particularly annoying because the dream I dreamed I was dreaming
>was a lucid dream, and when I dreamed I woke up, I lost lucidity because
>I thought it was real.  I just reread that.  It sounds like a joke, but
>it's not, really.

>Has anyone else experienced this dreaming of dreaming phenomenon?  Is
>there any way to keep lucidity aside from constant reality checking?


Great post.  I, too, dreamt of lucid dreaming before "lucid dreaming"
for "real."  This is your sub/conscious mind's way of letting you
handle the concept - one step removed.  Let me assure you, even though
you dreamt that you had a lucid dream, I wouldn't worry about it.  You
were lucid somewhere in there now weren't you?  You can handle it now!

Aside from constantly doing reality checks (I do them on the hour
with my alarm watch), just make sure and do a reality check each
time you awaken.  You will be amazed at how many "false awakenings"
you observe.

Folks at the Lucidity Institute have noted that DreamLight users
often realize they are dreaming upon "awakening" and doing their
reality check (botton on mask which sounds a beep and flashes the
lights once, also sets delay but that is beyond this msg intent) have
found that their DreamLight didn't "work" properly.  They were, of
course, experiencing a false awakening.  I often have dreams which
incorporate the actual wearing of the DreamLight in the dreams -
whether I am wearing it or not!  I always use this as an opportunity
to do a reality check.

Happy travels!

Newsgroups: alt.dreams
From: gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us (Gary S. Trujillo)
Subject: Re: alt.out-of-body
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:39:30 GMT

In <93009.180718SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu> Senthil Ramas Kumar
	<SRK106@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> The group alt.out-of-body, does not seem to available on all sites.  I am
> not sure, what exactly is the problem, but to temporarily alleviate the
> situation, GARY [gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us] has set up a mailing list which
> mirrors the newsgroup.  Pl.  send e-mail to him, *stating* the purpose, and
> he shud add u into the mailing list.

What Kumar means to say is that if you write to ask to be added to the
alt.out-of-body mailing list, please don't just say "add me to the list,"
since I run a number of lists on different subjects.

Thanks.

Gary
--
    Gary S. Trujillo                            gst@gnosys.svle.ma.us
Somerville, Massachusetts              {wjh12,bu.edu,spdcc,ima,cdp}!gnosys!gst
From: glenne@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Neuromancer )
Newsgroups: alt.dreams
Subject: Re: can't be lucid dreaming
Date: 6 Jan 1993 17:52:02 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
 
>        This is called a night terror.  There is some medical
>reason for it, but it boils down to you are awake but the
>"dream mechanism" is still running.   It is more common in
>children, and having a fever can trigger sometimes in
>adults also.
>
>        I used to get these as a child, and they became less
>and less frequent as I got older.  The last one must have been
>years ago.  When it was happening, I would feel a terror that
>eclipsed everything.
Night terror seems to make sense, especially for the first couple of
times it happened.  I do remember fear while seeing these
visions.   However, the last time it happened, the dream I awoke from
was not a nightmare, simply an intense dream.  The visions, especially
the mini movie screen was not frightening.  I was just curious about
what it was about.  Perhaps night terror need not involve nightmares
or fear.  Maybe the intensity of the dream has something to do with
the dream not completely shutting itself off when one awakens.
And a high percentage of really intense dreams happen to be nighmares.
This is pure speculation on my part.
 
I also saw an earlier mention hypnopompia.  The dictionary
definition of this is a state of semi-consciousness before waking.
And there is a reference to illusion.  I'd say what I experience is
more like a conscious-state just after waking involving dreamlike
sensations.  So night terror does sound like a better explanation
than hypnopompia.
 
One person suggested that I might have had a near OOBE.  I know
nothing about these, but assume that what I experienced was not
a near OOBE.  I'll have to read the OOBE newsgroup to help confirm
this.
 
Glenn                           glenne@csd4.csd.uwm.edu