HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eggertj@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Subject: Re: Scudbusters
Reply-To: eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41
	<1992Aug21.211113.630@bony1.bony.com>
	<EGGERTJ.92Aug23005934@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu>
	<1992Aug26.130442.5282@linus.mitre.org>
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:45:54

In article <1992Aug26.130442.5282@linus.mitre.org> m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:
>   In article <EGGERTJ.92Aug23005934@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes:
>   }In article <1992Aug21.211113.630@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
>   }>   The Israelis said that if it's not American, then perhaps it's
>   }>   Russian, Egyptian or something else and we're gonna send it away.  
>   }
>   }Sounds like you don't agree with the official story.  The Israelis
>   }officially didn't ever identify the ship as an American ship.
>
>   Huh?  Looks like Jake said that it wasn't identified either...

Let's check Jake's posting to see what you may have overlooked:

>   }> Israel found a ship that looked suspiciously like an American spy
>   }> ship.  They asked the Yanks who, after checking into it, denied that
>   }> it was American.  So the Israelis looked at it again and the Yanks
>   }> continued to insist that all American ships had been pulled out of
>   }> there.  The Israelis said that if it's not American, then perhaps it's
>   }> Russian, Egyptian or something else and we're gonna send it away.  The
>   }> Yanks said "Be my guest".

It sounds like Jake said that the Israelis initially identified the
USS Liberty as an American ship, an identification that was verified
by a second recon, but denied by the US.

But let's not fight over what we think Jake said.  Perhaps Jake will
clarify it himself.
--
=Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
Xref: sparky misc.headlines:6030 talk.politics.misc:42469 alt.activism:15576 sci.econ:7209
From: pcollac@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Paul Collacchi)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,sci.econ
Subject: Re: Boom Boom Boom Boom :)
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:22:49 GMT
Reply-To: pcollac@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Paul Collacchi)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Pyramid Technologies, Mt. View, California.

In article <1992Aug27.043330.11723@pony.Ingres.COM>, garrett@Ingres.COM
(QUOTE OF THE YEAR) writes:
|>
|> 
|> 	All these theories, and yet not a single person saw a 
|> correlation between the tax cuts and the following recessions. Amazing.
|> Well, I'm going to advance a theory that I am sure everyone will 
|> disagree with, on both sides. Here goes...
|> 
|> 	The government cuts taxes, therefore allowing more money
|> to circulate in the economy. Hence, economic growth.

The reduction of taxes WILL impact the amount of circulatable money,
but it doesn't necessitate economic growth.  Why?  Not all people
spend their money.  Some save it.  Why else?  People may be in debt
and are paying down the debt.  Interest is not really a produced good
in the same sense as a car or bike.  Paying off interest doesn't
necessitate growth.  Why else?  Foreign competition.  Who is to say
that the extra cash will go to domestic production?

|> 
|> 	That's right, someone with no economic schooling has just
|> put an inflamitory post that will be sure to anger every red-blooded
|> American. So start flaming.
|>
 
I think you have plenty of economic schooling --you're a consumer, producer
and probably and investor and owner.  Why are you trying to anger people?
Why don't you just make your point.  Is it that tax cuts eventually lead
to recession?  The problem with the argument is that we don't know how
long to wait in order for it to be considered 'eventually'.  If you were
to say within k years after a tax cut, there will be a recession, that 
would be more solid, but your choice of k would probably be a result of
looking BACKWARD at the data and choosing a convenient k, one that allowed
you to make your assertion.

Paul Collacchi

Newsgroups: misc.headlines
From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Subject: Re: Photo -- clearing Bosnian mines
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Dept. of Independence
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:55:00 GMT

In article <496@audfax.audiofax.com>, brian@audiofax.com (Brian Troxell) writes...
>it may have been another one---it's hard to keep up with all the rebuffs
>to your tired tirades), you would have realized that the mines could
>... 
>	Faction A uses a lot of sniper attacks against Faction B.
>... 




Sometimes it's hard to tell what's a "tirade" and what's not...



Xref: sparky misc.headlines:6120 rec.autos:21130 rec.railroad:7047 sci.physics:13900
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,rec.autos,rec.railroad,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Photo of grade-crossing accident
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 1 Sep 92 09:08:56 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.
Summary: Oh yeah?

In article <1992Aug31.235014.9871@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, tony2@prefect.uucp (21131-gozdz) writes:
> In article <1992Aug31.195527.24174@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com> babb@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com (Scott Babb) writes:
>>Stupendous Man (demon@desire.wright.edu) wrote:
>>: 
>>: 	Train A is approaching at 20 mph.  (Ahhh, okay, 32 kph :).  Person B,
>>: with tensile capacity X stand in the path of train A.  Assuming Train A
>>: ignores
>>: idiot B, with what force will train A pulverize person B?  Train A masses 40
>>: metric tons.  Person B has standard human tensile strength and explodes like a
>>: baked potato(e) when mashed.
>>: 
>>: :)
>>: 
>>: 	Engineering physics was never this fun.
>>:                             
>>: Brett                                                      
>>
>>40 metric tons is a mildly overloaded tractor-trailer!  I've seen many
>>coal train cars that specify loaded weights in the 100 metric ton range.
>>
>>If idiot "B" were to stand in the path of one of our local coal trains,
>>the he would be attempting to defy a mass more in the 10000 metric ton
>>range.
>>
>>If you want to see *really* fun engineering physics, you should go
>>to a coal fired power plant.  Our local plant has a forklift-type
>>mechanism which grabs one of these 100 (+/-) metric ton coal cars
>>off the tracks, lifts it up over the plant input hopper, dumps the
>>coal into the hopper, and replaces the car on the tracks.  Impressive.
>>
>>--
>>   Lockheed Sanders may disagree so these are solely the opinions of:
>>             Scott L. Babb - babb@rapnet.sanders.lockheed.com
>>              "We didn't inherit the Earth from our parents,
>>                   we are borrowing it from our children."
> 
> 
> WARNING! Leave Brett alone; He's an (in)famous
> instigator of various flame wars! Just look how he
> formulated his 'physics' problem...

	Eh?  I categorically deny any such involvement in the instigation of
any such inflammible conflicts!

	And what's wrong with the wording(e)?
:)

Brett                                                      
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From: Lawrence.London@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Lawrence London)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Is homesteading still possible?
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:26:56 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Sep2.160656.11049@sunova.ssc.gov> butteris@dingus.ssc.gov writes:
> I was wondering if any countries, including the USA, still homestead. If  
> so, which ones and how do I get more information about them? 
I thought this was something you did after procuring a piece of land;
you go out there and live on it, gradually becoming self-sufficient
after installing the necessary facilities, i.e. water, garden, livestock,
housing, processing and storage, workshop, etc.
What are you referring to?

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Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: jwoodard@nmsu.edu (Jeff Woodard)
Subject: Trailer (YECH!) foundations
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: misc.rural
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:13:20 GMT

I recently bought a mobile home (AKA trailer YECH!), even though I
thought I'd never live in one, I couldn't beat the price compared to
rent. Anyway, we moved it on to a trailer park, and gee, imagine this,
we were robbed to the tune of 13K (yes computer and all), and golly,
the prime suspects are three (3) of our neighbors. I've always lived
in the country, and thought I'd try to save some money by moving into
town into a cheap trailer park. It seems to only have cost me more
money (and time). Anyway, I'd like to know if anybody has any
experience in setting trailers permanently. The bank will only offer
me mortgage terms if I set the trailer permanently, and I've got about
4 acres to work with. I hate to permanently place a trailer in
undisturbed semi-arid desert, but that is the predominant structure in
the place I've got the 4 acres, and I clearly can't live where we now
are.
I was wondering about the pros and cons of pouring a concrete slab vs
just a footing. The trailer is a 1992 16'X 80', and I'm not sure as to
what exactly to do with it. Maybe there are some more options, but the
bank requires them to be permanent. I'm looking at 5.75% 30yr for $45K
if permanent, and as bad as 13% 5yr for $45K if not permanent. Anyway,
any and all advise is appreciated!!

PS, about the robbers, we've had 4 break-in attempts in 2 weeks, 3
were successful. We've already tried baiting them (with empty boxes
since there's nothing left to steal), and staking the place out - no
luck. The investigator has been through 2 of their houses with a
search warrant-No luck. The investigator is now on administrative
leave for failing his physical fitness test-great. He told us that at
least one of the neighbors, he knows for a fact, broke in, but he
can't prove it. Thank goodness for insurance anyway.....

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Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: Gene.Fusco@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM (Gene Fusco)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:01:39 GMT
	<25260034@hpcvra.cv.hp.com> <bill.714790229@chaos.cs.umn.edu>
Reply-To: Gene.Fusco@FtCollinsCO.NCR.COM
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu's message of 26 Aug 92 00:50:29 GMT


>>>>> On 26 Aug 92 00:50:29 GMT, bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu said:
>> Nntp-Posting-Host: chaos.cs.umn.edu

> gee thats funny, but i don't see much of what many have in thier front yard
> growing in any naturized pasture or woods around here. i really doubt that 
> the stuff scotts(tm) sells would make it out in the field. yes 'grass' is
> really pretty darn generic; as it held the great plains for a real long time!
> maybe i should have said 'ornamental lawn cover, cut to a rediculious height'.

Yup, what bill said.  (Hi bill!)  The natural stuff is better than the 
`ornamental lawn cover'.  If it wasn't, the `ornamental lawn cover'
types of species would have taken over long ago.  

Case in point:  I have chosen to leave my front yard with the natural
look.  My neighbor hasn't.  When we get rain, I see lots of his topsoil
running off of his yard into mine.  (Thanks Joe! :-)  I live in the
mountains of Colorado's front range, so my natural ground cover consists of
stuff like buffalo grass, sagebrush, small cacti etc.  Rye, blugrass and
their pals are outclassed here.  I have suggested to him that he talk
with the County Extension Agent about better things to do, but I don't
know if he has.




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Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams)
Subject: Re: Is homesteading still possible?
Reply-To: dadams@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:27:48 CDT

In article 11049@sunova.ssc.gov, butteris@dingus.ssc.gov () writes:
|
| Hi, 
| 
| I was wondering if any countries, including the USA, still homestead. If  
| so, which ones and how do I get more information about them? 
| 
| :+]
| Jamey B @ SSC


I have heard rummors that certain counties in Northern Minnesota still
offer Homesteads.  The idea is to attract people to move north.  I don't 
know how to verify that.

---
--David C. Adams  Statistician  Cray Research Inc.  dadams@cray.com
___________________________________________________________________
       Old Sourdoughs never die.  They just ferment away.
From: Nigel Griffith <nigeljan@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Date: 04 Sep 92 00:46 PDT
Subject: questions for misc.rural
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1427600002:000:841
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!nigeljan    Sep  4 00:46:00 1992



Thanks in advance for your assistance.

						-Nigel


 PLEASE DESCRIBE THE FOLLOWING ASPECTS OF THE ORGANIZATION/
 PROJECT:


WHAT IS/WAS THE NATURE OF YOUR PROJECT (PLEASE INCLUDE DATE, SIZE,
SCOPE, # OF PEOPLE INVOLVED)


	WHAT'S  THE  PROCESS FOR ACCEPTING NEW MEMBERS?

	WHAT DO THE NEW PEOPLE HAVE TO DO TO BECOME MEMBERS?

	HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH MEMBERS LEAVING?

	WHAT KIND OF RECOMPENSE DO PEOPLE WHO LEAVE GET?

	HOW IS FINANCIAL ACCOUNTING DONE

	HOW IS EQUITY APPORTIONED (WHO OWNS/ CONTROLS WHAT, HOW IS
	IT DECIDED)

	DOES THE ORGANIZATION  TRACK AND ACCOUNT FOR MEMBERS' NON
	MONETARY                      CONTRIBUTIONS (SWEAT
	EQUITY)?  IF SO, HOW IS THIS DONE?

	OVER THE YEARS, WHAT CHANGES HAVE BEEN  MADE IN THE
	ORGANIZATION'S ACCOUNTING           MODEL TO "FINE TUNE"
	OPERATIONS.  - WHAT'S  NOT WORKED? WHAT'S WORKED
From: butteris@dingus.ssc.gov
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Is homesteading still possible?
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:06:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: sunova.1992Sep2.160656.11049
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory


 Hi, 
 
 I was wondering if any countries, including the USA, still homestead. If  
 so, which ones and how do I get more information about them? 
 
 :+]
 Jamey B @ SSC
From: byrnes@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Byrnes)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:01:09 GMT
Subject: Re: Ban Gas Weedeaters
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: misc.rural

> 
> While oil is cheap....we should be making Ethanol production more feasable, 
> which has the following benefits:
> 
> 1> supports the farmers
> 2> cleaner burning
> 3> made here in the USA, or wherever you are & can build a still
> 4> $$ NOT going to the dictator-of-the-month in whichever Arab country we 
>    are currently fighting 
> 5> renewable resource (corn, etc)
> 6> burns cooler, longer engine life.

I've posted this before, so this will be quick...

Environmental experts (quoted in Time, etc) have concluded that burning
Ethanol instead of Oil is *worse* for the environment by a large factor.
The amount of fresh water used, pesticides, fermentation gases, etc.
cause more damage overall.

John
From: cohill@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Andrew M. Cohill)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: Keeping ants away
Keywords: ants
Date: 30 Aug 92 13:46:39 GMT
Organization: Fire in the Mountain

In article <4852@rosie.NeXT.COM> afitz@next.com (Alex Fitz) writes:
>Does anyone know of an effective, environmentally safe way to keep ants  
>from coming in your house?  

Plant a border of tansy all the way around the house.  This was used as
a bug repellent at least as far back as colonial times.  Tansy is a
perennial that is very hardy, spreads and fills in rapidly, and is
moderately attractive.

It's a bit like mint in its ability to spread (but not quite as bad), so
plan carefully where you put it.

Andrew

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|              imagined, or were encouraged to avoid.   T. Pynchon          
|                    
|Andrew Cohill        cohill@vtserf.cc.vt.edu            VPI&SU
From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Re: dealing with "meat" bees
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:41:11 GMT
Distribution: usa, na
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group


Wow,  a swarm in an oak log.  Neat.  There was an American Bee Journal
article on how to remove such a hive this (or last) year.   As the article
pointd out,  with queens and bees selling for $30/5 pounds,  it isn't
economically feasible to take such hives.

BUT

Beekeepers are kinda romantic ol' souls.   So a lot of beekeepers do this
sort of thing as a "roots" kinda trip... back to the days when all bees
were obtained this way.   Heck,  people even go "hive hunting"...   you
capture wild bees,  feed them sugar ina  little glass topped box, and
when they are completely full, let them go, one at a time and watch
which way she goes... walk a dozen steps in that direction, le tthe 
next one go  and eventually you can walk all the way back to the hive.

So I imagine that if you get in touch with beekeepers now, they will come
out, OOOOH and AAAAAH, and start making plans for next spring!
From: cf603@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Sill)
Newsgroups: misc.rural
Subject: Rural Sources: Homes (part 2 of 6)
Date: 3 Sep 1992 14:31:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf603@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Sill)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Dome Homes

    Monterey Domes
    Riverside, CA
    
    Dome Creations
    Las Vegas, NV
    
    The Big Outdoors People
    26600 Fallbrook Ave.
    Wyoming Industrial Park
    Wyoming, MN 55092
    612-462-1011
    
    Catherdralite Domes
    820 Bay Ave, Suite 302
    Capitola, CA 95010
    408-0462-2210
    
    Domes America, Inc.
    6 S. 771 Western Ave
    Clarendon Hills, IL 60514
    800-323-5548
    
    Domes and Homes, Inc.
    PO Box 365
    Brielle, NJ 08730
    215-825-8290
    
    Dome Home Systems, Inc.
    Route 2, Box 247A
    Reedsburg, WI 53959
    608-524-4555
    
    Free Space Geodesics
    7094 N. Harrison Ave, Suite 165
    Pinedale, CA 93650
    209-431-8670
    
    Geodesic Domes, Inc.
    10290 Davison Rd.
    Davison, MI
    313-653-2383
    
    Polydome
    3020 North Park Way
    San Diego, CA 92104
    714-574-1400
    
    Synapse Domes
    PO Box 554
    Lander, WY 82520
    307-332-5773, -4117
    
    Timberline Geodesics
    2015 Blake St.
    Berkeley, CA 94704
    415-849-4481
    
Timberframe Homes

    Lindal Cedar Homes
    Seattle, WA
    
    PO Box 24426
    Seattle, WA 98124
    206-725-0900

    Deck House
    930 Main St.
    Acton, MA 01720
    617-259-9450
    
    Sawmill River Post & Beam, Inc.
    PO Box 227
    Leverett, MA 01054
    413-367-9969
    
    Timberpeg
    PO Box 579
    Woodstock, NY 12498
    914-679-7322
    
    The Barn People
    Box 4
    South Woodstock, VT 05071
    802-457-3943
    
    David Howard, Inc.
    PO Box 295
    Alstead, NH 03602
    603-835-6356
    
    Green Mountain Homes
    Waterman Rd.
    Royalton, VT 05068
    802-763-8384
    
    Habitat (Eastern U.S. only)
    123 Elm St.
    Deerfield, MA 01373
    413-665-4006
    
    Haida Hide, Inc.
    19237 Aurora Ave. N.
    Seattle, WA 98133
    206-546-4183
    
    New England-Techbuilt
    585 State Rd.
    North Dartmouth, MA 02747
    617-993-9944
    
    Timber Kit
    PO Box 704
    Amherst, MA 01002
    413-665-2210
    
    Yankee Barn Homes, Inc.
    Star Route 3, Box 2
    Grantham, NH 03753
    603-863-4545
-- 
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Newsgroups: misc.rural
From: jonr@bigsky.dillon.mt.us (Jon Robinson)
Subject: Re: Earning a living in the country
Organization: Big Sky Telegraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:43:31 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Jim Paradis (paradis@sousa.ltn.dec.com) wrote:
: 
: >oh and it do help a BIG bunch when the sw skills are in demand (this year
: >they are and i am in fat city. the past 3 they wern't and i suffered. 
: >cash wise that is)
: 
: OK, Bill, riddle me this (and maybe this should go to misc.jobs.misc?)
: Even if your software skills ARE in demand, how do you go about finding
: employers or contracts that will let you work remotely?  Especially in
: these recessionary times, there are *tons* of software folks, many with
: high-demand skills, who are willing to relocate or commute.  I've run
: into a brick wall every time I've brought up the subject of telecommuting.
: The only approach I've found that works is to commute for a year, make
: loads of contributions, become highly valued to the group or company and
: then say "Let me work from home or I'll walk"  (I haven't done this, but
: I've seen others who have).
: 
: Is there any less confrontational method of making it work?  I've found 
: that I can expound on the benefits of telecommuting until I'm blue in
: the face, and I get agreeable nods in return, along with "Yes, but we
: don't work that way here" or something like that...
: 
: Any more ideas?
: 
: --
: Jim Paradis (paradis@tallis.enet.dec.com) 
: Working for DEC, speaking for myself.

Hi Jim, et. al.,

Maybe the problem is your not writing the right kind of software :-).

I work as System Developer for a K-12 educational network run
by Western Montana College, work for Sen. Conrad Burns (MT) as a
telecommunications specialist, and in my spare time, do independent
contracting doing a whole host of things including creating demo
disks for BBSes.  Not suprisingly, the people I work for are very
receptive to letting me do my work from afar.

My job at Western alone suggests something to check into all by its
self.  Most small colleges and universities in sparsely populated
western states are in small towns and have at least a small computer
department.  In my case, Western is located in Dillon, population
4,000.  Dillon is the largest town in the area; the nearest Kmart
being 65 miles away in Butte which is hardly a metropolis at 20,000
people.  It's not hard to find a "rural" place to live and still be
within easy commuting distance around here.
-jon

-- 
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Western Montana College of the         The staff usually forgets." - Fletch
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