From: 6175190@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Carlyle Morgans
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 15:16:44 GMT

Yes, this is a sad and tragic state of affairs.

The Morgan Horse registry now requires everybody to be bloodtyped, but
that just started in 1992 I believe. Before that the stallion had to be
bloodtyped and maiden mares. I don't know when that requirement began.

As you probably know there is an ongoing "controversy" in the Morgan
world between "old type" and "new type". In my mind the old type is the
heavier bodied, smallish, draft type; very compact, muscular body. And,
once again in my mind, the new type is the longer, leaner, more saddle-
bredy type. Both are upheaded and have some similar traits that make
them definitely Morgan, but again they aren't alike. You have to see to
believe, I guess. And, again, that's my view. There are folks in the
Morgan world who believe the old type had the longer neck and were tall,
tall being relative. We're not talking Warmbloods here. 15.3H is a
fairly tall Morgan. Well anyway that's my opinion. And, as we've seen
with other breed (Quarter Horses that are almost pure Thoroughbred, etc.)
it does happen. I may be old fashioned/traditional, but I prefer the old
type (my version anyway- ;-) )

Happy Holidays All,

Diane, Spring (old type Morgan mare) and Dancer (her 20 month colt)

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>I just thought I'd mention that something like this happened in the Arabian
>racing industry a few years ago. There was a horse called "Fred's Revenge"
>that was cleaning up at the track. People became suspicious because of
>the circumstances of the horse's birth, and the fact that he looked more
>like a thoroughbred than an Arabian. Supposedly, the breeder owned a mare
>and her colt, and the colt got loose and bred his dam in the pasture, which
>produced Fred's Revenge.

>I suppose the colt's blood must have been on record with the registry because
>this has always been required, but, at that time, the dam's blood was not
>required to be on record. They couldn't get the guy to voluntarily blood type
>the mare, and when the registry started putting pressure on him, the mare
>suddenly "died from poisonous plants in the pasture." Well, the registry
>felt there was enough question about the parentage that it canceled the
>horse's registration (I don't know what they did to the breeder).

>There are always notices of horses being canceled in the Arabian Horse
>Registry newsletter. If a horse is canceled, they also cancel its progeny.
>I would imagine if you buy a horse and its registration is canceled, it's
>up to you to go back and sue the breeder for selling the horse under
>false pretenses. I think this will be happening a lot less frequently now
>that the AHR requires sires and dams to be blood-typed, and also requires
>foals to be blood-typed before they can be registered.

>Mary Ann Pike   (mapike@sei.cmu.edu)    and     Robyn (14-year-old Arabian)
>Software Engineering Institute                  & her June colt Baaskin Robyns
>Carnegie-Mellon University                      (inquiries welcome for either)
>Pittsburgh PA