From: hung@u.cc.utah.edu (Hung Nguyen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re: POEM (DDO^'I)
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:12:25 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center Student Mail Machine

In article <1992Dec17.002954.762@oakhill.sps.mot.com> quangl@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Quang Le) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.093506@IASTATE.EDU> orion@IASTATE.EDU (Phi H Truong) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec14.153221.15242@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, lam@tesla.ece.wisc.edu
>>(Nguyen Lam) writes:
>>> Xin -di'nh chi'nh. Ve^' -do^'i -du'ng ra la` :
>>> 		
>>> 	Tay kho^ng lay chuye^?n tro+`i thie^n ha.
>>> 
>>> Mong quy' vi. tre^n ma.ng lu+o+'i -do^'i du`m.
>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>or try this one,
>>	
>>	cha^n da^~m cu+'c heo ma('ng tro+`i sao thui'.
>>
>
>Pha?i co^ng nha^.n ca^u ddo^'i cu?a anh Phi cha(?ng nhu+~ng dda~ hay ro^`i
>ma` co`n co' mu`i nu+?a :-) Nha^n tie^.n ca'c ba.n ddang u+'ng ddo^'i
>to^i xin ma.n phe'p nha('c la.i mo^.t va`i ca^u ddo^'i xu+a.
>
>The^? le^. cu?a ca^u ddo^'i xu+a ba(`ng tie^'ng Ha'n ra^'t phu+'c ta.p
>vi` ngu+o+`i ddo^'i pha?i ddem he^'t so+? ho.c ra dde^? dda'p la.i. Muo^'n
>ca^u ddo^'i chi?nh pha?i ddo^'i ca? y', la^~n chu+~ va` va^`n,  ma(.c du` 
>ddo^i khi kho^ng nha^'t thie^'t pha?i la` ba(`ng ddo^'i vo+'i tra('c. 
>Ma(.t kha'c, ca'ch nga('t ca^u pha?i giu+? nguye^n nhu+ ca^u dde^` va`
>theo ddu'ng ca'c ca'ch cho+i chu+~.
>
>Mo^.t thi' du. cu?a mo^.t ca^u ddo^'i chi?nh la` cu?a su+' tha^`n
>Vie^.t Nam Giang Va(n Minh ddi su+' sang Ta`u. Vua Ta`u ra ca^u ddo^'i:
>
>DDo^`ng Tru. Chi' Kim DDa`i Di~ Lu.c
>
>(Ca^y ddo^`ng tru. dde^'n nay re^u va^~n chu+a xanh)
>Y' vua Ta`u muo^'n nha('c dde^'n co^.t tru. ddo^`ng cu?a Ma~ Vie^.n
>du+.ng sau khi dda'nh ba.i Hai ba` Tru+ng dde^? dde do.a 
>
>Su+' tha^`n Giang Va(n Minh ddo^'i la.i ra(`ng:
>
>DDa(`ng Giang Tu+. Co^? Huye^'t do Ho^`ng
>
>(So^ng Ba.ch DDa(`ng tu+` xu+a ma'u dda~ ddo?)
>Nha('c la.i chie^'n tha('ng tre^n so^ng Ba.ch DDa(`ng, su+' tha^`n
>chu+'ng to? cho vua Ta`u tha^'y nu+o+'c Nam kho^ng he^` so+. su+. xa^m
>la(ng tu+` phu+o+ng Ba('c. Giang Va(n Minh pha?i tra~ gia' cho ca^u do^'i
>na`y chi'nh ti'nh ma.ng cu?a mi`nh nhu+ng dda~ ddie^?m the^m mo^.t ne't son
>cho trang su+? ve? vang cu?a da^n to^.c.
>
>Ca^u ddo^'i ba(`ng chu+~ Ha'n ca`ng hie^?m ho'c ho+n khi ngu+o+`i ra 
>dde^` du`ng chie^'t tu+. co' nghi~a la` mo^t va`i chu+~ la` chu+~ ghe'p
>cu?a nhu+~ng chu+~ kha'c. Ngu+o+`i ddo^'i pha?i du`ng ca'ch chie^'t tu+. 
>tu+o+ng tu+. mo+'i co' the^? go.i la` ddo^'i. Ma(.t kha'c va^~n pha?i
>giu+? cho y' nghi~a cu?a ca^u pha?n a?nh ddu+o+.c y' ddi.nh cu?a mi`nh.
>Mo^.t thi' du. la` khi trie^`u ddi`nh nha` Nguye^~n ddi chie^u an 
>Phan Ba' Va`nh (gia(.c tua rua) co' ra ca^u ddo^'i:
>
>Tho^? tie^.t ba'n hoa`nh, thua^.n gia? thu+o+.ng nghi.ch gia? ha.
>
>(Co' nghia~ dden la` chu+~ "tho^?", ca('t ddi mo^.t nu+?a ne't ngang,
>dde^? xuo^i tha`nh chu+~ "thu+o+.ng", dde^? ngu+o+.c tha`nh chu+~ "ha."
>DDo^`ng tho+`i muo^'n no'i quy thua^.n la` thu+o+.ng sa'ch co`n nghi.ch
>la.i la` ha. sa'ch.)
>
>Vua Ba' Va`nh ddo^'i la.i la`:
>
>Ngo.c ta`ng nha^'t ddie^?m, xua^'t vi chu? nha^.p vi vu+o+ng
>
>(Nghi~a dden la` chu+~ "Ngo.c" co' mo^.t da^'u cha^'m, dde^? ra ngoa`i
>tha`nh chu+~ "chu?" (chu'a) ca^'t ddi tha`nh chu+~ "Vu+o+ng" (vua). Nghia~
>bo'ng muo^'n no'i mi`nh la` vua chu'a kho^ng chi.u quy thua^.n trie^`u
>ddi`nh.)
>
>Ngu+o+`i ra ca^u ddo^'i nhie^`u khi muo^'n ga`i cho ngu+o+`i kia va`o the^'
>kho^ng ddo^'i du+o+.c ba(`ng ca'ch ta.o ra ti`nh huo^'ng oa'i a(m. Nhu+
>ca^u ddo^'i cu?a mo^.t vi. quan ra cho Ky` DDo^`ng. 
>
>Tam Ta`i: Thie^n DDi.a Nha^n
>
>Tie^n DDi.a Nha^n la` ba thu+' trong tam ta`i. DDo+n gia?n the^' tho^i
>nhu+ng kho' ddo^'i vi` ne^'u Ky` DDo^`ng du`ng mo^.t con so^' kha'c
>ba (Tam) thi` la`m sao ke^? he^'t ca'c thu+' ddo' trong ddu'ng ba chu+~!
>Ky` DDo^`ng ddo^'i la.i ba(`ng
>
>Tu+' Thu+: Phong Nha~ Tu.ng
>
>Thoa't kho?i the^' ke.t vi` trong tu+' thu+ co' hai cuo^'n sa'ch cu`ng te^n
>Nha~ (DDa.i Nha~ va` Tie^?u Nha~).
>
>Ba`n ve^` ca^u ddo^'i kho', kho^ng the^? kho^ng nha('c dde^'n ca^u ddo^'i
>tu+o+ng truye^`n giu+~a ba` DDoa`n Thi. DDie^?m va` Tra.ng Quy`nh. Mo^.t
>ho^m ba` DDoa`n ddang ta('m thi` Tra.ng Quy`nh dde^'n cho+i va` ddo`i va`o
>xem. Ba` DDoa`n ddo^'i pho' ba(`ng ca^u ddo^'i:
>
>Da tra('ng vo^~ bi` ba.ch
>
>Da la` bi`, tra('ng la` ba.ch, nhu+ng bi` ba.ch la` tie^'ng tu+o+.ng
>a^m khi ddang ta('m. Tra.ng Quy`nh bo'p tra'n ma~i kho^ng ddo^'i ddu+o+.c
>dda`nh chi.u thua, kho^ng ddu+o+.c xem live show. :-) Ca^u ddo^'i na`y
>ddu+o+.c nhie^`u ngu+o+`i ddo+`i sau thu+? ddo^'i nhu+ng kho^ng ma^'y tha`nh 
>co^ng vi` kho^ng ddo^'i ddu+o+.c y' la^~n chu+~. Thi' du. nhu+ "tro+`i xanh
>ma`u thie^n thanh" ddo^'i chu+~ nhu+ng y' ra^'t ngo^ nghe^.
>
>Ghi ta.m va`i do`ng la(.t va(.t, cha('c kho^ng kho?i thie^'u so't.
>Tha^n,
>Quang Le
>
>PS. No'i DDo^ng no'i Ta^y ma` suy't nu+~a que^n ddo^'i ca^u cu?a anh La^m.
>Xin noi theo kie^~u ca^u ddo^'i co' mu`i cu?a anh Phi :-)
>
>Tay kho^ng lay chuye^?n tro+`i thie^n ha.
>
>Bu.ng ro^~ng ra('m u`m dda^'t My~ cha^u :-)
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Cam' o+n anh Quang dda~ post nguye^n ta('c ca(n ba?n ve^` ddo^'i tho+ cu?a
ngu+o+i` xu+a . To^i dda~ ho.c some thing new which is old .

Hay la('m !!!


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From: lpham@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Leslie Pham)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:54:37 GMT
Subject: T`im hie^?u........
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