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From: andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: Computer Printed Checks
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 12:27:01 CST
Distribution: chi
Organization: INFOPLUS support, Wheeling, IL

arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:

> In article <93006.204211U48073@uicvm.uic.edu> Cole Kendall <U48073@uicvm.uic.
> >Does anyone use computer printed checks?  A friend has just bought
> >Managing Your Money and wants to know if there are any cheaper sources
> >of checks than those available from MECA.
> >
>
> I don't use them but I just received one from a customer.  Fortunately, he
> is on the network and I asked him what it was as it looked like he ran it off
> on a Mac.  I was joking but he came back and said it was.
>
> From the receiver's point of view, at least until tthey become more common,
> the generate a great deal of suspicion.  Although their is a bank code on
> the bottom, there is no reason to believe that could not also be created in
> the computer.  I think you can bet that anyone getting one will sit on it
> till cleared by the bank and cause you a lot of grief.

  I think he's asking about PRE-PRINTED checks designed for use in printers.

  I, too, worry about actually creating a check from scratch. What kind of
safeguards are there on this??

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From: kimes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Kit Kimes@AT&T/NCR)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH NEWS
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:18:31 GMT
Distribution: il
Organization: AT&T

From article <1993Jan12.060737.13075@timesink.chi.il.us>, by (Michael Borowiec):
> In article <1993Jan11.160405.16542@sdc.com> (Ken Konecki) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan8.203334.29814@cbnewse.cb.att.com> (nancy.nehls.nelson) writes:
>>| The Illinois Commerce Commission is scheduled to decide, this year,
>>| whether or not ComEd can build a line of 138,000 volt transmission
>>| lines along the Prairie Path....
>>| The nonprofit grassroots organization 
>>| FRIENDS OF THE PRAIRIE PATH have set up a legal fund to raise money
>>| for legal efforts to stop ComEd from using the Path and come up with
>>| another plan that would not impact the Path.
>>
>>This makes no sense to me.  The Prarie Path is a right of way owned by
>>Commonwealth Edison.  On what legal grounds can they be prevented from making
>>use of it?
>>
> Here here... I've been wondering this myself. Commonwealth Edison bought
> the old Chicago Great Western and Chicago Aurora & Elgin right-of-way from
> the Chicago North Western in the early or mid 70's. There was a great deal
> of hoopla over the fact that Edison donated the land to a public trust...
> They did so with the understanding that they retained the right-of-way
> should it become necessary. It has...
> 
> It would take lots of extra bucks to re-route these lines alongside busy
> roads and through residential areas. Much of the path already has high-
> tension wires alongside. What the heck difference does it make anyway?
> Tree cutting would only occur when absolutely necessary and besides,
> they'll grow back. This used to be a bare railbed not too many years ago.
> I know, I grew up two blocks from the path. I pay no attention to the
> lines while I'm riding.
> - Mike

The reason many people are upset is not because it would be an eyesore.
Fact is, a lot of empirical data infer that there is a real health
risk living and working near high tension power lines.  This is more a
concern that how it looks.

As for ComEd owning the right-of-way, that is the same as you owning 
your home and property.  You can't do anything you want without approval
from someone even if it is just the local building zoning board.  ComEd
has to have approval to use the right-of-way that they retained.  

Since the jury is still out on how much of a risk it is to live and play
near high tession lines, I am in favor of witholding approval until
more research can be done.  If there is a serious danger, it seems like 
a high price to pay so more people can run their microwave ovens.

Kit Kimes
AT&T Resource Link (under contract to NCR)
Naperville, IL
...!att!iwcs!kimes (kimes@iwcs.att.com)
From: mikebo@timesink.chi.il.us (Michael Borowiec)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH NEWS
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:07:37 GMT
Distribution: il
Organization: HAM Radio Station N9EUZ, Naperville, IL

In article <1993Jan11.160405.16542@sdc.com> kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.203334.29814@cbnewse.cb.att.com> horse@cbnewse.cb.att.com (nancy.nehls.nelson) writes:
>| The Illinois Commerce Commission is scheduled to decide, this year,
>| whether or not ComEd can build a line of 138,000 volt transmission
>| lines along the Prairie Path....
>| The nonprofit grassroots organization 
>| FRIENDS OF THE PRAIRIE PATH have set up a legal fund to raise money
>| for legal efforts to stop ComEd from using the Path and come up with
>| another plan that would not impact the Path.
>
>This makes no sense to me.  The Prarie Path is a right of way owned by
>Commonwealth Edison.  On what legal grounds can they be prevented from making
>use of it?
>
Here here... I've been wondering this myself. Commonwealth Edison bought
the old Chicago Great Western and Chicago Aurora & Elgin right-of-way from
the Chicago North Western in the early or mid 70's. There was a great deal
of hoopla over the fact that Edison donated the land to a public trust...
They did so with the understanding that they retained the right-of-way
should it become necessary. It has...

It would take lots of extra bucks to re-route these lines alongside busy
roads and through residential areas. Much of the path already has high-
tension wires alongside. What the heck difference does it make anyway?
Tree cutting would only occur when absolutely necessary and besides,
they'll grow back. This used to be a bare railbed not too many years ago.
I know, I grew up two blocks from the path. I pay no attention to the
lines while I'm riding.
- Mike

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  >>> Dedicated to the Pursuit of Computer Assisted Time Dissipation <<<
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Newsgroups: chi.general
From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (DWT)
Subject: Re: chi Newsgroups FAQ [last mod: 11/6/92]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:45:34 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657

converse@cs.uchicago.edu (timoshenko) wrote in
<CONVERSE.93Jan4141329@sloth.uchicago.edu>, posting to chi.ai [it showed up
in ddsw1's junk spool and got here via mcdchg]:

| 	(Sigh.)  Ron Heiby obviously thinks that the original
| responder at NU either is lying or else doesn't know what group he is 
| reading.  So, let's try again:  if you're reading this, and you're
| not at the U. of Chicago, could you post a response?  (I've removed 
| chi.general from the Newsgroups line.)

Since chi.ai isn't newgrouped here I've had to post to chi.general.  

Tim Converse posted to chi.ai and got three follow-ups to chi.ai (all of
which I saw in the junk spool).  All three came from Northwestern.

I suggest that we newgroup the darn thing and everyone outside U of C and NWU
tolerate it since its traffic is so light.  Failing that, the two schools can
start a new hierarchy for just the two sites to share and chi.ai can be
rmgrouped.

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com    CompuServe: 73720,1570    MCI Mail: 426-1818
Newsgroups: chi.general,chi.ai
From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: Connections to clout
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:57:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.220448.5809@serveme.chi.il.us> greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) writes:
>There have been serveral problems with U of Chi's terminal
>server during the holidays.  It's difficult to have something
>done while everyone is away.

Never mind.  I tried earlier today (Sunday) and everything
worked fine.

-greg

-- 
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       greg@serveme.chi.il.us                    UNIX system at 312-282-8606
   ||  gulik@rtsg.mot.com                        For information, drop a note
                                                 to info@gagme.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: marc@marcal.uucp (Marc Veeneman)
Subject: Re: Computer Printed Checks
Organization: Marcal Systems Corporation
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 15:39:37 GMT

phil@pex.eecs.nwu.edu (William LeFebvre) writes:

>I use them all the time to pay bills and have not had a problem.  The
>coded numbers across the bottom of the check (with bank #, account #,
>and check #) cannot be generated by check, as they must be printed with
>a special ink---required by the machines that read the encoded numbers.
>So when you have the blank checks printed up, you must have the check
>numbers printed on them as well---the printer does not print the check
>number on the check.

Nope.  You can get magnetic toner for your LaserJet from
Hewlett-Packard.  There's no need to pay an outsider for that
printing.

-- 
Marc Veeneman
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: jriemer@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Riemer)
Subject: Re: New SF Shows
Summary: DS9 Replay of Debut episode
Keywords: WGN, DS9
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:21:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.163243.1723@midway.uchicago.edu> elle@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King) writes:
>>Anyone have any information about the broadcast times/dates ...
>
>>    Deep Space 9    (ch  9)
>
>As reported by rec.arts.startrek.info:
>
> Market          Chan    2hr -Debut      Repeat          Regular
> ----------      ------  -----------     ----------      -------
> Chicago, IL     WGN- 9  Jan 3 @ 7pm     ***             Sun @  7:00p (2)
>
>>    Babylon 5       (ch 50)
>>    TimeTrax        (ch 50)
>
>These two are being advertised pretty heavily on channel 50, so you
>might want to keep an ear out for specific times.  (I haven't cared
>enough to pay attention.)
>
>--                    __
>Ellen Keyne Seebacher \/             elle@midway.uchicago.edu

	I have been told by the WGN-TV switchboard operator and syndication
programmer that there will be another broadcast of the debut episode of
Deep Space 9 on Channel 9 at 4:00 pm Saturday January 9, 1993.  Enjoy.

jriemer@nwu.edu (john riemer)

Newsgroups: chi.misc,chi.general
From: kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki)
Subject: Re: Casion--Vote
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:53:54 GMT

In article <72658907125022@skeeve.mcs.anl.gov> rackow@skeeve.mcs.anl.gov (Gene Rackow) writes:
>Since the
>Lottery is completely run by the state, and supposedly to help the schools,
>WHY are the school systems in such financial trouble.  Mismanagement is
>part of the problem, but it's also true that for many years the lotto money
>did NOT go to the school system as intended.

The money from the lottery does indeed go to education.  The trouble is
that instead of augmenting the money already being spent on education it
replaced it, thereby freeing those funds for other purposes.  Even though
technically the lottery revenues are placed in the education coffer, the
reality is that it's just another source of income for the state.  The
person who called it a stupidity tax pretty much hit the nail on the head.

Cheers,
    -Ken K
-- 
Ken Konecki
e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
"Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery"
Newsgroups: chi.general,rec.travel
From: johnme@ecs.comm.mot.com (John Meyer)
Subject: Re: Need b&b recommendation for Galena, Illinois
Organization: pcb_design
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:59:38 GMT

In article <JUNCK.93Jan5111233@okra.fnal.gov> junck@okra.fnal.gov (Kevin Junck) writes:
>
>I have traveled through Galena a couple of times and would like to
>stop there for a quiet weekend with my wife.  Does anyone have any
>recommendations on a good bed and breakfast and what to see and do in
>the area?  Thanks!
>
>--
>Kevin L. Junck     a.k.a. Junck@okra.fnal.gov            708-840-8368
>Fermi National Accelerator Lab                 Batavia, Illinois, USA
>#include <std.disclaimer.h>                 ** HAIL TO THE VICTORS **


     THIS IS ONLY A TEST
From: rck@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (ron.kukuk)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Attention, Rush Limbaugh viewers!
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:19:13 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: AT&T

Dear Rush Limbaugh viewers:

Are you upset with the decision of WGBO/Channel 66 to move Rush Limbaugh --
The Television Show to 10:30 PM?  If you are, please call them
and convey your disappointment.  The programming manager is keeping track
of your responses.  Call them at (815) 723-6000 and let them know.
Newsgroups: chi.general,chi.ai
From: heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com (Ron Heiby)
Subject: Re: chi Newsgroups FAQ [last mod: 11/6/92]
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Schaumburg, IL
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:06:27 GMT

In article <MITCHELL.93Jan3204406@gluttony.uchicago.edu>
mitchell@cs.uchicago.edu writes:

>P.S. Could someone at Northwestern post a confirmation if you got this
>over chi.ai?  Thanks.

This request was responded to by someone at NU.  The problem is that
it was cross-posted with chi.general.  There's no way of knowing
whether *any* site receiving this thread actually believes in chi.ai
because of the chi.general cross-post.

As far as the Chicagoland news backbone knows, there has been no
traffic in chi.ai for years.  Also, it seems that there are only a
handful of people who believe in it, and they are all in UofC or NU.
Furthermore, no one on the Chicagoland news backbone recalls there
*ever* being any discussion related to the creation of the group.  Now
that the "chi" distribution appears to no longer be fragmented, I
suggest that if someone thinks that there should be a chi.ai group,
that it should be proposed per the guidelines.
-- 
Ron Heiby, heiby@chg.mcd.mot.com	Moderator: comp.newprod
"proteus: any of a genus of aerobic ... bacteria that include saprophytes in
 decaying organic matter and forms associated with gastrointestinal disorders"
From: mea@cbnewse.cb.att.com (mark.e.anderson)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH NEWS
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:21:13 GMT
Distribution: il
Organization: AT&T

In article  kimes@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Kit Kimes@AT&T/NCR) writes:
 
>Since the jury is still out on how much of a risk it is to live and play
>near high tession lines, I am in favor of witholding approval until
>more research can be done.  If there is a serious danger, it seems like 
>a high price to pay so more people can run their microwave ovens.
 
>Kit Kimes
>AT&T Resource Link (under contract to NCR)

Kit must be working on NCR's new PC which is powered by hamsters.


:-)

Mark
Newsgroups: nwu.general,chi.general
From: Tom McDougal <mcdougal@cs.uchicago.edu>
Subject: Re: mechanic needed
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A771F15100011453@tango.uchicago.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 7 Jan 93 20:40:17 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Chicago Computer Science
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Distribution: chi
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:46:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.170518.29641@news.acns.nwu.edu> Daniel Katz,
dsk@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes:
> I need to find a mechanic for some relatively simple work on my car,
> a Ford.  I need someone who can do engine timing and some brake work.
> I'm looking for someone near Evanston, including the north side of
the
> Chicago.
> 
> Any recomendations or horror stories will be appreciated.

Try Gerry (Fitzgerald) Pascascio, (708) 475-0093 (home, eves.).  He
lives in the south end of Evanston.  My brother and mother both have
had a lot work done by him.  I usually do my own.


-----------------------------------------------------------
Tom McDougal   mcdougal@cs.uchicago.edu   +1 (312) 702-9923

        National Railroad Convention in Chicago.
        No one admitted without a tie.
From: mea@cbnewse.cb.att.com (mark.e.anderson)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: Casion--Vote
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:07:07 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: AT&T

In article kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) writes:

>There's no substanstive
>proof that the casino will live up the dreams of its crusaders.
>Should it not, what happens then?

It should be up to those of us who's phone numbers start with 312
to decide and take this risk.

Mark
From: kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: ILLINOIS PRAIRIE PATH NEWS
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:04:05 GMT
Distribution: il
Organization: Systems Development Corporation

In article <1993Jan8.203334.29814@cbnewse.cb.att.com> horse@cbnewse.cb.att.com (nancy.nehls.nelson) writes:
| The Illinois Commerce Commission is scheduled to decide, this year,
| whether or not ComEd can build a line of 138,000 volt transmission
| lines along the Prairie Path....
| The nonprofit grassroots organization 
| FRIENDS OF THE PRAIRIE PATH have set up a legal fund to raise money
| for legal efforts to stop ComEd from using the Path and come up with
| another plan that would not impact the Path.

This makes no sense to me.  The Prarie Path is a right of way owned by
Commonwealth Edison.  On what legal grounds can they be prevented from making
use of it?

-- 
Ken Konecki
e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
"Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery"
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: avi@shell.portal.com (Avi - Schwartz)
Subject: chinet's phone # needed
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: chicago
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:40:25 GMT


I am looking for chinet's public phone number. This is actualy for a friend
that would like to try it out. I used to have the number but can not find it
anymore.

Thanks!

-- Avi        avi@shell.portal.com  or  avi@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: Computer Printed Checks
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:48:18 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL

In article <93006.204211U48073@uicvm.uic.edu> Cole Kendall <U48073@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Does anyone use computer printed checks?  A friend has just bought
>Managing Your Money and wants to know if there are any cheaper sources
>of checks than those available from MECA.
>

I don't use them but I just received one from a customer.  Fortunately, he
is on the network and I asked him what it was as it looked like he ran it off
on a Mac.  I was joking but he came back and said it was.

From the receiver's point of view, at least until tthey become more common,
the generate a great deal of suspicion.  Although their is a bank code on
the bottom, there is no reason to believe that could not also be created in
the computer.  I think you can bet that anyone getting one will sit on it
till cleared by the bank and cause you a lot of grief.

Newsgroups: nwu.general,chi.general
From: dsk@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Daniel Katz)
Subject: mechanic needed
Followup-To: chi.general
Summary: near evanston, for ford
Reply-To: dsk@nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, USA
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:05:18 GMT

I need to find a mechanic for some relatively simple work on my car,
a Ford.  I need someone who can do engine timing and some brake work.
I'm looking for someone near Evanston, including the north side of the
Chicago.

Any recomendations or horror stories will be appreciated.

Thanks,
Dan

-- 
Dan Katz                                                       dsk@nwu.edu
Dept. of Electrical Engineering                             1(708)491-8887
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, 60208                E pur si muove
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki)
Subject: Re: Casion--Vote
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Distribution: chi
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:34:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan08.083009.11387@uumeme.chi.il.us> statz@uumeme.chi.il.us (Louis B. Del Boccio) writes:
   [In response to William LeFebvre]
>William again you miss the target. Your statement proves you
>definitely don't know whats going on in Chicago. Just read the
>papers watch the news that retail/manufacturing/travel and industrial
>are leaving Illinois..

Illinois and Chicago are not equivalent.  I would rather Chicago go the
way of Houston and Detroit than the way of Atlantic City.  Besides, what
makes you think casinos are the best answer?  Perhaps there's another solution
to the problem you're addressing.

>   William -- William  yes - yes   Chicago needs jobs understand !

Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day; teach a man to fish and he'll
eat for a lifetime.  Jobs are a short term solution.  Education is a long
term solution.

Cheers,
    -Ken K
-- 
Ken Konecki
e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
"Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery"
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:42:10 CST
From: Cole Kendall <U48073@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Computer Printed Checks

Does anyone use computer printed checks?  A friend has just bought
Managing Your Money and wants to know if there are any cheaper sources
of checks than those available from MECA.

Thanks,

Cole Kendall
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:58:06 CST
From: Richard K. Wolf <U42641@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.general,uic.computer
Subject: Re: Looking for share-ware

In article <92356.060313U16028@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U16028@uicvm.uic.edu> says:
>Are there any stores in the Chicago area that
>carry share-ware?

Why look for such stores when you have freebie access to tons of shareware
on any number of great Internet archives, like wuarchive and simtel-20?
Just grab a zillion diskettes, wait till after hours (for politeness'
sake) and FTP from the PC's in the labs to your hearts delight.

>Terry
>U16028@uicvm.uic.edu

        " . . . And then my thoughts, from far where I abide,
                Intend a zealous pilgramage to thee . . . "
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