HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl)
Subject: Re: Mis-used of turn signals & other stuff
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:01:15 GMT

In article <By6Bpo.BpD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dennis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Thomas A. Dennis) writes:

>
>>Jenny "Call me a cab, thanks" Gutbezahl
>
>Jenny, you're a cab.  You're welcome.

Congratulations, Tom!!  You've won second place in the post an obvious 
joke to alt.peeves contest!  Keep trying, we're sure you can take first
prize yet.

Jenny
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From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: Halfwits.
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:12:19 GMT

In <By1FJC.4K8@cs.dal.ca> smith@ug.cs.dal.ca (Sean Smith) writes:

>	Because we have taste.  Besides, "manifest destiny" is passe.  As 
>Pierre Burton (a Canadian author) once said, we define ourselves as not
>Americans.

Obviously, mr. Burton was a man who didn't want to live up to being honored
by such a distinction.

>	ObPeeve:  Taking 2 hours to complete a journey that usually takes
>1/2 hour because of traffic.  There wasn't even much snow down.  Halifax must
>have been invaded by Americans who haven't the slightest idea how to drive in
>snow.

I hate that!  And that's why we send them up there.  Beware, our lawyers are
soon to follow.
--
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Yes, I KNOW I look like someone you know.  - Bill Berbenich, net.hedonist
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From: jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl)
Subject: Re: JENNY'S LESSON IN FLAMING
Keywords: I HATE DICKHEADS
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:08:45 GMT

In article <Bxu6z6.EIz@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes:
>
>Hey, I don't wanna take credit for that stuff Jen. You see, you forgot the
>most important lesson that I could give you... Assess the audience you will
>be addressing. 

Steve = Dum-Dum
Steve = No good
Steve = Wank Off
Steve go Bye-Bye

To the rest of the group (those with fully developed cerebra): I can't believe
this guy.  Is anyone that much of a sucker for punishment!  He still thinks
that this is some sort of a game - I guess he missed Alex's explanation.  I
think the problem was that even though Alex made his points clearly and 
succinctly, the sight of Alex's last name so terrified little Stevie, not
only is it polysyllabic, but it seems to lack appropriate vowelage and
therefore is quite beyond Dalhousie comprehension, that Stevie simply
pressed the 'n' key in horror.

I don't know if flaming Stevie will help.  It seems to have helped Mike
considerably, but I always got the impression that there was hope, even
under his pooorest attempts, there seemed to be a sort of latent talent.
He's probably a genius.  Anyone who can attend Dalhousie & still formulate
complete sentences is obviously capable of maintaining his intellect under
the most trying of circumstances.

Now, Stevie, on the other hand, is simply pathetic.  I don't think anything
any of us could do will make any difference at all - he is incapable of
learning.  This is a problem.

Mike H., perhaps you should add to the FAQ: "How do you solve a problem
like Steve Franklin?  What is the proper means of disposal of a poor
writer who has been flamed all over the net so many times that he can't
even feel the heat?"  I don't expect you to have the answer, but perhaps
if we all put our heads together we can come up with something.


>P.S.(Peeve of Steve): People with glottal sounding last names like "Gutbezahl"
>                      because they must hear the joke "bless you" every time
>                      they say their last name.


Actually, I've never heard it until today.  Unlike Charles, I've did not
have this name as a child.  It's possible that Greg heard that joke, but
no me.  I'm not in the habit of associating with those who have not yet
reached puberty & so I've missed the brainless name play.

Most of the comments I've gotten on my name (other than "how the hell do you
pronounce that?"), come from people who know German and wish to know whether
it is an appropriate name for me.

It isn't - but I'm keeping it anyway, and hopefully it will be apt at some 
point in the not too distant future.

Jenny Gutbezahl
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From: jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl)
Subject: Re: BDIVOs in general
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:33:26 GMT

In article <lgj3smINN8v1@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>
>fix.  Imagine: an Open Look-interface newsreader!  I feel like a kind on 
>Christmas morning.
>

I'm not generally given to spelling flames, but I feel obliged to ask:

Kind of WHAT?

Jenny

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From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Recent Peeve
Date: 16 Nov 1992 10:11:12 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley CS Dept.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cobra.cs.berkeley.edu

In article <92321.001837LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> (Long Phamdo rocking PSU style) writes:
>No..what's your point.
>
>What is a "wankhole"

I'm sorry, Long; apparently we have had a little miscommunication
here.

From your breezy wit and cool command of prose I took you to be
at least a junior or senior at PSU, which is after all one of
the nation's finest public universities, and then I just casually
assumed that you were in computer science, so of course you would
know all about wanking.

Again, sorry; let me explain.  "Wanking" is a technical term
borrowed from systems theory; a computer program is said to be
"wanking" when it produces a large quantity of output of little or
no use.  Some conjugate the term, which is actually of Germanic
derivation, and refer to such a program as a "wanker."

So what I meant by talking about "wankholes" (a wankhole is a
sort of interprocess communication point for wankers, like
a socket or a pseudo-tty) was to suggest, in as delicate a manner
as I could manage, that you were a wanker.

Now please don't take this wrong.  It isn't really an insult;
it's just a sort of a polite reminder to rethink your thoughts
and maybe consider a few more times what you are doing.

More specifically, this is a worldwide group with tens of thousands
of readers, and they read it because they find the articles
posted here to be interesting or amusing.  Now my suggestion is
to, every time before you post, think about whether these
people will find your article interesting.  Because, if not,
a lot of people will spend a lot of money sending it all over the
world, and they may be unhappy when they find out it's something
that they're not really interested in reading.  

It would, in short, be rather discourteous of you.  Not really
evil; just not very nice.  That's more or less what it means
to be a wanker in the world of Usenet.

If you have any questions, please drop me an email note before
you wank again.  I'll be more than happy to answer any questions
you may have.  

Sorry if I was a bit rude before; I get a bit tense sometimes.
You know how it is.

Yours sincerely,
Curtis.
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Officemate Peeves (was: Halfwits.
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:59:52 GMT
Reply-To: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



>Would a CD player with earphones help?

Yes, it would.  Unfortunately, I'd have to shell out my own precious
piasters for one, which I'm unwilling to do at this point -- given that
the Annual National Spendfest is looming on the temporal horizon.

Peeve: Christmas.  Just as I'm starting to recover financially from last
year, it comes around and knocks me flat on my ass again.  I'm no
Diamond Jim Brady when it comes to gifts, nor am I a pauper, but mein
Gott!  

Anyway, maybe, if I play my cards right, I can ger one of those 
desktop X-option CD-ROM players.  I have a Walkman to last me in the
meantime -- I use it for listening to Rush Limbaugh in the morning,
and NPR some afternoons.  What I need to buy is a set of those old-
style, clamp-on-your-head earphones so I can tune out my officemate's
telephone conversations.



Geoff

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From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: C&H Sugar Peeve
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 17 Nov 1992 18:13:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
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In article <40943@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ee152fdm@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington) 
writes:

>The people in these ads act as if there is no modern life in Hawaii. 
>They have the farmers saying how you cannot get "Jelly Belly" jelly 
>beans in Hawaii, they say you cannot have high tea in
>a fancy hotel in Hawaii, etc etc, all with extremely dumb accents. 
>Geez. You can have high tea in any one of the hugely overpriced
>hotels on Waikiki... you can buy "Jelly Belly" jelly beans at any
>supermarket or (miracles!) the MALL. 

I wonder how true that is for towns on the Neighbor Islands.  Kahului 
and Wailuku, perhaps, and maybe Hilo and Lihue, but there are still
some definite pastoral backwaters around.  Look at northern Kauai, for
example, and all of Molokai -- not too many malls there.  

I don't have personal experience with high tea, in Waikiki or anywhere
else (most of my Waikiki experiences involved libations of a different
sort), but it makes sense that it'd be available, what with all the 
Canadian tourists who come out during the winter.


>Yes, in Hawaii we eat chocolate cake and scones. People do not all live 
>on sugar farms, and even if you DO Oahu isn't all that big, it is NOT 
>much trouble to go to town.

Somehow, I doubt the makers of he commercials had Oahu in mind.

Peeve:  cane spiders.
!Peeve: geckos


Geoff


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From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Crowley is Close...
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:59:49 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) writes:
] In article <92321.164841LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
] >Since you didn't mean to offend, then I take back my previous posts (I thought
] >they were pretty funny though), but I sure did piss off the homo's..go figure.
] 
] Sweetie, you don't know jack shit about apostrophes.
] 
] His idea of "pissing off the homo's" is me sending him email pointing
] out that since Peevetown isn't inhabited by bigots, telling people to
] "post in alt.homosexual" just doesn't cut it as a flame around here.
] 
] Thought you'd like to know.


Well Minor Exception here, but the child's point
of view is a Defamation of HeteroSexuals!!!!!


We really must find an alt.dick.less.dweebs so that they
can all rummage around trying to proove something about
why as dickless dweebs they are Morally Offensive to
all forms of sentient life.

ciao
drieux

ps: this folks is what happens when there is NO MORE NATIONAL DRAFT!
The little children do not learn to tell the difference between
their peepee's[1] and a penis symbols.

[1] GOD I HATE BOOTER! who got me using this word!!!!



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Little Miss Muffett, sat on a ToughtIt,
Eating her Kurds and Weighs, Along came a Spider,
and she drove off with the Neat Guy with a HOT CAR!
From: library@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Riddell)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Veteran's Day
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:44:54 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
Originator: library@merlin.comlab

In article <Bxp14z.M31@news.iastate.edu> z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Agro-Barbarian) writes:
>
>	Let me give you a very simple simulation of a night carrier landing.
>In your living room, place a stamp face-down on the floor.  Back up fifteen
>feet, turn off the lights.  Now dive face forward and lick the stamp with
>your tongue as you hit the floor.  If you licked the stamp, you've just
>successfully completed a night carrier landing.  If you failed, you should
>now run a motorcycle up to about 120mph, set yourself on fire, and jump off.
>This should simulate fucking up a night carrier landing.

I take it they're difficult then, these night landings?
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Halfwits.
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:29:10 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Menagerie - Housecat Division

In article <qXXcuB1w165w@wabworld.atl.ga.us> bill@wabworld.atl.ga.us (Angus MacPeevy) writes:
>smith@ug.cs.dal.ca (Sean Smith) writes:
>> 	That was below the belt.
>
>I doubt if Sean has anything below the belt anyway, in which case dre 
>scored a 'miss.'  Sorry, dre.
>BTW, is that pronounced "dree" or "dray?"


Its pronounced "bandy" or "sheepdog".

Peeve: these damned flamefests. That really peeves me. We have a big
network with lots of computers and fancy software. Folks set up a 
pile of software that lets people correspond on different topics and
set up filters and customs to allow readers to sort through the megabytes
of postings so that they can read things that interest them. So what
happens? Alt.peeves becomes alt.flame or alt.idiocy.from.college.kids.
Feh and double feh.


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meetings, and his offspring squeezes pimples instead of little old
ladies' savings accounts... - Carol Osterbrook
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: A brain is a terrible thing to waste
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:57:31 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:

>True story:

>Person A "It's my birthday today"
>Person B "How old are you?"
>Person A "I'm not telling you, but I've gained a binary digit"
>Person B, who can now be revealed as a UserSupportoid, an employee
>of the COMPUTING SERVICE ferchrissakes "Oh, so you're 48".

>Nuff said.

Still, you'll be glad that she's 16 and it's now legal :-)

ObDenial: It wasn't me, I can count :-)

FoFP
-- 

We wonder why other folks regard computing people as weird while we
persistently refer to small, square objects as "discs".
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Baby peeve - registration of birth
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:07:47 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:
]
] Here in Victorian England^H^H^H^H^H^H^HBritain, the powers-that-be demand
] that if the parents are not married, then both must be present at the
] registration of the child's birth. As I explained at some length, and
] at some heat, on the phone to the idiot at the Registrar, this achieves
] nothing except exposing a two week old child to nasty weather and germs.

Jeremy!!!!!

How amny times have we tried to warn you about
the EVILS of HeteroSexuality!!!!

The Kind people at the registrar's office are 
merely trying to protect the inheritance rights
of the Newly Born, so that EVIL WICKED WANTON WOMEN
will NOT register some Poor Sweet Innocent Waif as
some mere Commoner, when in Reality they SHOULD WELL
be on the 'rights of succession to the Throne!'

Just Think what sort of GeoPolitical CATASTROPHE
they are seeking to prevent!!!!

Would you want some RadFemSurfNaziLesbian 
depriving some child of their GOD GIVEN RIGHTS
to ROYALTY merely as she is some LapDogLackeyOfLeftistLeanings?????


ciao
drieux

ps: perspective, its important in these things.


-- 
Modern Day Problems:
Little Miss Muffett, sat on a ToughtIt,
Eating her Kurds and Weighs, Along came a Spider,
and she drove off with the Neat Guy with a HOT CAR!
From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: And just what the fuck do Canuks know about beer?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 17:30:45 GMT
Organization: Sun, Moon, and Stars
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

(Michael 'Moose' Dinn) writes:
>no... but when there's a keyboard error and it expects me to press F1 to
>continue.....

Very good.  Why don't you write a 500 word essay on belaboring the
irony and mail it to yourself.

drew
banta@abingdon.sun.com
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get a life, not necessarily a career. I think
a career is a poor substitute for a life."
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From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: the Devil's Day (and the Devil's Night)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:11:04 GMT

In <1992Nov15.150627.8904@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:

>Peeve: There aren't any high cliffs for miles.

Just go get your mailman stoned.  <ark ark>

(No, it isn't worth explaining.  It's stupid.)
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From: larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way)
Subject: Deficit peeving
Organization: New Mexico State University, MetaPhysical Science Laboratory
Distribution: alt.peeves
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:08:02 GMT

It's been tough finding much to bitch about recently, what with the superb
New Mexico fall weather (70+ degrees, clear, and old Sol making ozone) and
all. Just when I was prepared to have a crappy day Saturday (the battery died
in the Taurus), I blundered into the War Eagles air museum in Santa Theresa, 
New Mexico.

Fine, fine, fine!

A Warhawk. A Corsair. TWO Mustangs. A Lightning. A Texan. A Shooting Star.
TWO Mig-21s. A B-25. A Wildcat. A C-47. A Pitts(?). And several others, as
well as old cars - a Packard, Auburn boat tailed roadster, Chivy army car,
old Caddie, and even a '67 T-bird. Airplane engine displays, including RR
jets. Videos. Souvenier shop with airplane books and T-shirts.

The P-38 was particularly cool, one of only eight flying examples left.
Glossy black with polished aluminum panels on the gear doors. Gorgeous.
May God bless Kelly Johnson.

Peevers, if you ever find yourself [stuck] in El Paso, drive over to the
Mesa exit west and check it out. $4 admission, open until 4:00 PM.

Peeve: Living so near something neat and taking so long to check it out.
       Guess I'll have to break down and see Carlsbad Caverns next..
L.
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From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe)
Subject: Re: fucking BDI motorcycle drivers
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:06:36 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

In article <1e9bk3INN8tn@roche.csl.sri.com> mhunt@csl.sri.com (Mike Hunt) writes:

>I have a method that drives tailgaters nuts, but is not
>so dangerous as slowing to 20 MPH on the expressway

Or you could get a British car: if they're not so fast that no one can
keep up with them, then they're leaking oil or coolant and no one wants to
get close.

Actually, the only problem I find with your technique is that someone will
get seriously pissed off; maybe 97% of the time nothing will come of it,
but it's those 3% that make the 11pm news.

-Dave
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From: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: A brain is a terrible thing to waste
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:50:32 GMT
Reply-To: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Organization: Do they make a washing powder called Caliban Automatic?

In article <28202@castle.ed.ac.uk> fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes) writes:
>Still, you'll be glad that she's 16 and it's now legal :-)

ObPeeve: Some of us aren't legal until 10101...
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From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: I don't get that channel!
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 17:33:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <mhart.722177816@blackjack> mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart) writes:

>and our very own Peevetown Slut Jenny G, 

>That really peeves me.

Me too...A girl gets herself off the streets, sets up a very
sucessful restaurant business, hires me and a couple of wetbacks,
providing a boost to the local economy, and what does she get?

Insulting abuse from this Hart character!

Now look, pal, unless you have a hankering for some personalised
lessons in the function of my mechanical deboning machine,
and wish to figure prominently in my upcoming "long pig, the
neglected cuisine" cookbook, you'll cut this stuff out.

indignantly yours
Charles, chef Chez Nips
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separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
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