From: d89-gsk@nada.kth.se (Gani Skepi)
Subject: Re: Qur'an recognizes Bible as inspired(was Jesus is a Prophet..etc)
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:01:52 GMT

In article <5945@balrog.ctron.com>, king@nickel.Sgi.COM (John E. King) writes:
|> In article <92318.113622RBNXHS@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> <RBNXHS@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> writes:
|> >No, the Qur'an does not say that the gospels are insprired from God...
|> >Siddiqui.
|> 
|> 
|> YES,  the Qur'an does say the gospels are inspired.  At Sura 9:11
|> it states,"Such is the true promise which He has made them in the
|> Torah, the Gospel, and the Quran." (Also see Sura 5:65). 
|> 
|> Jack
|> 
|> Keywords: 

In the name of God, Most Gracious Most Merciful.
(29:46)"And dispute ye not with the People of the Book, except with means
better (than mere disputation), unless it be with those of them who inflict
wrong (and injury); But say:" We believe in the Revelation which has come down
to us and in that which came down to you; Our Allah and your Allah is One;
and it is to him we bow (in Islam)."

You Christians are taught that the holy Quran accepts the Gospel and the 
Taurat and therefore we Muslims can't say that the Bible is wrong because 
it is accepted by the holy Quran.
Right?
But there is a BIG problem here. 
What is it that says that the Bible *HAS* the Taurat and the Injil spoken
by the Holy Quran????
The holy Quran *NEVER* talks about the *BIBLE*.
It talks about the Gospel, the Torah, the Psalms  e.t.c....
But the Bible???? What is that???..:-)...

Even the Bible *ITSELF* never mentions the word *BIBLE* when it talks 
about the scripture. 
So the word *BIBLE* isn't even found in the Bible (according to what I know)..

So what is the Muslim point when it comes to the Injil and the Taurat???
If you take a look at the nowexisting four Gospels you will see:
1. The Gospel ACCORDING to Matthew.
2. The Gospel ACCORDING to Mark.
3. The Gospel ACCORDING to Luke.
4. The Gospel ACCORDING to John.

Were is the Gospel (Injil) ACCORDING to Jesus (pbuh)???

And who wrote Romans, Acts, Cor, Hebrews e.t.c according to Christianity????
Was that Jesus (pbuh) ??????
No, it was Paul, Peter, Paul, Paul and then suddenly John, and John again 
and Paul, Paul, Paul and Paul, a little of James, and then Peter and Peter 
e.t.c...*NOT* Jesus (pbuh)!!!!!!
In the so called New Testament there is *NO* book which is claimed to have 
been written by Jesus (pbuh) himself.
Right???
You see this is the problem. 
To you Christians, Paul, John, Peter e.t.c are Apostles but to us Muslims 
*ONLY* Jesus (pbuh) is a Messenger of God and thus should be respected and
followed.
The rest were *ONLY* his disciples and a selfappointed one & Co, nothing 
more....

So if you find the Gospel *ACCORDING* to Jesus (pbuh) then we may have a 
look at it but if you give us Paul and Paul and a little of Peter and then 
suddenly John. Then you are *NOT*, I repeat, *NOT* qouting from the Injil 
spoken of by the Holy Quran.

So the Injil (Gospel) spoken of by the Quran is *NOT* the NT.
It is *NOT* the four Gospels now recieved as canonnical.
Instead it is the single Gospel which was revealed to Jesus (pbuh) and 
which he taught.
Fragments of it has survived in the nowexisting four Gospels.

So the Injil spoken by the Holy Quran is the *original* Gospel which was 
promulgated by Jesus (pbuh), as the original Taurat was promulgated by 
Moses (pbuh) and the Quran by Muhammed (pbuh).

Secondly the Taurat spoken by God in the Quran is not the Torah as it is 
today it's the way it was given the first time.

So the conclusion is that the Torah and the Gospel spoken by the Holy 
Quran is *NOT* equal to the things that nowadays are collected in the OT 
and NT.

As we Muslims claim to be in the true tradition of Abraham(pbuh), all 
that is of value in the older revelations is incorporated in the teaching
of the Last of the Prophets.

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
(5:48)"And unto you have We revealed the Scripture with the truth,
confirming whatever Scripture was before it, and a watch over it ..."

So God is telling us that *EVERYTHING* that is against this *LAST*
Testament in the previous scriptures is *NOT* the words of God, it's 
the words of someone else.

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
(5:68)" Say: ' O People of the Book! Ye have no ground to stand
upon unless ye stand fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all revelation
that has come to you from Your Lord, .."

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
(5:66)" If only they had stood fast by the Law, the Gospel, and all
revelation that was sent to them from their Lord, they would have
enjoyed happiness from every side. There is a Party on the right
course; but many of them follow a course that is evil."

In the name of God, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.
(57:29)"That the People of the Book may know that they have no power 
whatever over the Grace of Allah, that (His) Grace is (entirely) in 
His hand, to bestow it on whomsoever He wills: For Allah is the Lord 
of Grace abunding."


Sincerley Yours
Gani Skepi

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