From: data@cs1.bradley.edu (Mark Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.pro
Subject: Re: SHURE SM-58's Does anyone still use them???????
Date: 14 Apr 92 06:46:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs1.data.703233996
Distribution: rec.audio.pro
Organization: Digilog Technologies : Music/Midi software that works for you.

In <OSYSTEMS.92Apr11130232@world.std.com> osystems@world.std.com (Cary T Conrad) writes:

>Does anyone still use Shure SM-58(Ice Cream Cone) mic's for
>live sound support?

Yeah.  I run the sound for an eight member christian vocal group.  We don't
have a whole lot of money, in fact our setup isn't very great, but we get some
really great sound out of it live.

Here's the setup:
	8 Shure SM-58s. (not the betas, the regular old ones).
	assorted Pro-Co cables.
	Yamaha EMX-200 powered mixer. (225 watts/ch @ 8 Ohms)
	2 Hot spots.
	1 fender 6 ch mono mixer with 100 watts/ch @ 8 ohms for monitors.
	2 toa speakers (model unknown) with 15" woofers and horn tweeter.
	Technics cassette deck with dbx tape/disc and Dolby B/C.

It's again, not the best setup, but we get pretty good sound, and not too much
hiss.

Just a side note, I used this system to mix the group (I sing bass with the
group as well) at Six Flags over Mid-America (Saint Louis, MO) in front of the
"Palace" theater (Yeah, we've played the Palace! :).  Granted this isn't great
equipment.  I brought in a second deck (an Akai) for trax rewinding/cueing, a
"coustic" brand eq (10 band/ch), and a BSR 10 band/ch.  One was dedicated for
trax eq as it went into the aux ins (no eq there), the eqs on the board were
the main eqs, and the other eq went to mon eq.  The speakers were up approx 7
feet from the concrete at the bottom of the steps, the group at the top (3
steps :) and the sound was tremendous.  Mics were the sm58s arranged in an arc
around the hot spots, which were at about a 75 degree angle to each other to
eliminate phasing on stage (none whatsoever from a monaural mix :).  The sound
carried WELL over 100 feet with great sound quality.  I have my director
believing that sound engineering is "magic" :)

The other group that performed there brought a stack of three different models
of JBL speakers, a 20 channel board (didn't get the brand name), 2 1/3 octave
eqs, assorted other effects, and about 300-500 watts/ch amps.  Their sound was
not that good to be brutally honest.  We got much better sound from those two
toas then they got from the jbl clusters.  My director was rolling on the
concrete when she heard the difference.  (She had not seen the setup before
the show, or theirs before hearing it.)  Ours carried farther than their
performance too!  I am quite frankly amazed.  the shows were all outside, and
we competed with the steam engine train that hauls people around the park, and
were able to be heard rather well.  Only problem was our foh position was in
direct sun (ouch!) and the fender amp overheated...:(

Sorry to get off track too much...:)

Mark Hall
Sound Engineer for InterCessions
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