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From: jwindley%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Jay Windley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: A Lament.  A big damned Lament.
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:46:30 GMT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (David Caruso II) writes:
>My opinion about "Rascals" and more:
>
>	This episode was one of the worst of all time.  The science was
>totally unfeasible, the plot was ridiculous and cliche, the lines were
>without substance.  I felt so bad watching this show, wondering why it's been
>so bad in the sixth season ... wondering what happened to the brilliance of
>the third.

The brilliance of the third season was the brilliance of script
coordinator Melinda Snodgrass.  But she was drummed out of the Star
Trek production brotherhood by Roddenberry, et al., who thought the
scripts she selected for production were not well suited to their
ideal of the Star Trek universe.

>what I am a fan of is wholly in the past.  *big sigh*  I hope it picks back
>up ...

Not likely.

There are two things I think should be done.  First, throw out all the
silly restrictions on scripts which keep the stories bland.  Let them
go to strange places and see strange things.  Second, hire a script
coordinator and editors who can recognize good stories and who aren't
afraid to push to get them produced.

Why does the cast need "to boldly go where no one has gone before"
when they never leave the stupid starship?

I think there are probably good scripts being written and being
submitted to Paramount, but the current administration is looking only
at the bottom line for estimated production cost.  They pick the
thirteen cheapest episodes and produce them.

Come on, guys.  No more malfunctioning holodecks, no more transporter
accidents, no more omnipotent aliens, no more possessed counselors.

Unfortunately, I predict that this slump will simply end with the
demise of TNG.
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        Jay Windley * University of Utah * Salt Lake City
                  jwindley@asylum.cs.utah.edu
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From: u2104805@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: 2nd Season Episode List.(Request)
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:59:29 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

A few weeks back, someone posted a list of the complete episodes of
Star Trek.
I was using a terminal new to me and i didn't know how to get a
copy of that posting. I also mailed the sender, but still have had
no reply.
If anyone has a copy of it, could they please send me the list of
episodes for the second season of ST:TNG ?

Thanks in advance.
PS - You know how I hate to read about "Relics", and all
     those episodes that will take a few years to make it
     down under.
     (ARGH)

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From: morrissey@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Amanda!
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:03:22 GMT

In article <3ccqTB2w164w@kryton.UUCP>, ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead) writes:
> cs202144@umbc8.umbc.edu (cs202144) writes:
> A few lines for spoiler protection....
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>> She will be a great addition to the show if they keep her on as a recurring
>> character...Imagine a good Q who goes around helping instead of causing
>> trouble.
>> 
>> Also I believe her parents are alive in the sense they still exist somewhere.
>> She even said at the end she was going to go visit her parents. Can't do that
>> if they are truely dead and how can an omnipotent being die? I think that
>> her parents were exiled somewhere, sorta like those criminals in the Superman
>> movies, and cannot get out but still are alive. The tornado was probably just
>> to justify it to the humans living amoung them.
>> 
> 
> When Amanda said that she was going to see her parents first, and expain 
> things, I believe she ment her "adopted parents", not her biological ones.
> Her biological parents died in the tornado when she was a baby.  Someone
> had to raise her.  So she is going back home to say, hey mom and dad guess
> what, I'm omnipotant, isn't that great!!.  So, I do believe that her 
> biological parents are, in fact, dead.
> 
> 


Kind of puts one in mind of conversations between Clark and Ma and Pa Kent.
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: RE: Rascals--can they make anything worse? <Spoilers!>
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:32:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <10NOV92.13044584@wums.wustl.edu>, wetsel_r@wums.wustl.edu writes:
> However, we have yet to see a retinal
> security scan on ST-TNG.  I wonder why though???  A retinal scan would have
> allowed the young Picard to access the computer as he needed.

That special effect would have cost some money to produce.  Much cheaper to
use low-tech script writing.

Terry
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From: steve@sep.Stanford.EDU (Steve Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: A Graph For Your Viewing Pleasure.
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:01:16 GMT
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Nov10.161249.44603@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (David Caruso II) writes:
|> 	Now, class, the question is:  What the hell can we do about it?
|> 	Anyone who says, "Nothing," gets a grade of "F".  Anyone with several
|> hundred million dollars with the intent to buy out Paramount and do these
|> episodes right earns of a grade of "A".

You could write a script and send it in. It looks like they
could use some good ones!
Unfortunately if it is rejected, some weeks you'll be plagued
by thoughts along the lines of "did someone at Paramount make
a mistake, or is my script really worse than THIS?".
Other weeks though, you'll marvel at the thought that someone
could write such a good script. This happened to me a few times
toward the end of season 5, but not recently.
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Department of Geophysics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: cnk@rgm.com (Claims No Knowledge)
Subject: TAKE YOUR POLITICAL OPINIONS ELSEWHERE!
Organization: RGM *nix - Sacramento, CA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:48:56 GMT

I have noticed that people tend to post articles to groups whose subject
does not match the groups they are posted to.  I implore these people to 
please refrain from this.  When I read rec.arts.startrek and other ST groups,
I do it for ST info--not politics.  If the politics relate to ST in some way, 
however, that's different.

Now for my own ST comment to make my message legit:  I thought "Rascals" was
pretty mediocre, but I enjoyed the Q episode.

Thank you.

cnk
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Ferengi are Gods! (minor spoilers)
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:41:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <bak.721511668@sfu.ca>, bak@fraser.sfu.ca (Jason Bak) writes...
>Like I said minor spoilers.
> 
>	If six ferengi can take overpower a crew of 1014 I shall dub
>them Gods!  Why didn't anyone think of going to the weapons room and
>getting a few phasers?  I won't even mention Worf.  Hopefully next
>week he'll make a comeback. (ya right).

Worf? Come on. How can you expect any help from the being who got beat
up by a barrel?  Seriously, it just goes to show you that what bad
writing and stock footage can do for a show.

Star Trek : The Meek Generation

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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: <None>
Date: 8 Nov 92 08:33:52 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls



Minor minor spoiler for "Rascals"




That starboard power coupling really needs a LOT of work...
anyone notice how it went down yet again during "Rascals?"

Why is it never the port power coupling?


Steven.K.Manfred

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: rodb@slugo.corp.sgi.com (Rod Beckwith)
Subject: Wimpy WORF
Keywords: Disgrace for Klingon Empire
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:09:47 GMT


Spoilage

































































This Klingon is a total disgrace to the Federation & the Klingon Empire. He
could't hit the broad side of a M-class planet with a 1000 photon torpedos
in standard orbit! Is it just me or are the writers setting this wanna-be a
warrior for some huge disgrace in the future. 

He & Riker should be demoted to janitor 3rd class for the way they handled
the hostile attack last night from the Ferengi. They are both overachieving
losers.

Nuff Said!

Rod


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From: simons@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Sarah Simons)
Subject: Re: All Ferengi Must Die!! (Rascals Spoilers)
Keywords: female, ferengi, nudity.
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:45:30 GMT

     Now that we've seen a nude female on trek (CoL) and a femal Q (True Q)
isn't it about time we see these amazingly ugly nude female Ferengi? 

Sarah J. Simons
Arizona State University
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu (James Gasaway)
Subject: Picard's Aunt Odell and Continuity
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: NCSA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:09:19 GMT

I don't think anyone's added this to the continuity discussion...

I saw Cause and Effect (5th season) last night, and I believe this is the
first time Picard mentions his Aunt Odell and her warm milk remedy for
insomnia (Bev was hearing voices and couldn't sleep so she met Picard in
his ready room).

In Schisms, Bev gives this recipe to Riker because he's not sleeping and
mentions that Picard's Aunt Odell swears by it.

Continuity!


James 
jgasaway@ncsa.uiuc.edu
Univ of Illinois @ Urbana/Champaign
From: WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST:TNG Companion: slight mistake
Date: 3 Nov 92 23:05:20 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <goudswaa.720068603@sfu.ca>, goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter
Goudswaard) says:
>
>
>In the next paragraph, it is strangely repeated, but this time it says,
>"Worf's pet targ is actually a Russian wild boar...".
>
>Since I didn't see the episode, I was wondering which animal the targ was.
>


I think an example of a targ would be from the movie STIII, when Kruge pet his
targ...
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Cloaking devices (Spoilers) Rascals
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:07:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov7.155151.18308@hubcap.clemson.edu>, charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
> moe@netcom.com (Morris Bisted) writes:

>>Spoilers for Rascals


> Does this really happen that much?  I don't think so.
> The Klingons and Feds are allied ... I'm sure they've seen a BoP before.
> Maybe they don't *want* a cloak?

You would think that just for safety the Klingons wouldn't decloak directly
in front of a Federation vessle.  What is Mr Barkley was in command and
panicked? ;-)  "Sneaking up" and decloaking may be dramatic, but it's a
d*mn stupid thing to do.  Maybe THAT'S what Q means by: "Macro head with a
Micro brain". ;-)

Terry
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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: RASCALS (with a spoiler or 2)
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:48:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: rivers.1992Nov9.124815.289
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

> 
> well, I know I'm going to get flamed for this one...
> 
> But I think Rascals is the 2nd best eppisode of the season! (the best being
> True-Q, or whatever it's name was).

It was good enough to rate a 6 on my scale.  Was a healthy "good" episode.

> 
> some notes (I'll be brief, I know you've seen it all before)
> 
> *  ANOTHER transporter accident?? please!

Not to mention an all-too-convenient-mysterious-energy-field.
> 
> *  The Ferengi *DID* take over the enterprise way to quick....
> 
> *  Why couldn't picard regain controll of the computer himself??

The primary reason for my response to your post.  This bit.
The computer recognizes command access barriers by voice print.
As a twelve year old, Picard had a very different voice and so the computer
wouldn't recognize it.

> 
> this season is REALLY dragging badly.... and I _*HATE*_ the new teaser music!

Has no one else noticed that the teaser music has been different every week?

Steven.K.Manfred
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
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From: Ira_J._Seskin@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 18:39:12 EST
Subject: Re: Picard/Data are they going going gone?

>>I don't know about Brent Spiner, but I've heard that Patrick Stewart (sp?)is
going to be taking a few episodes off.  Possibly so that he can work on"A
Christmas Carol" on stage, but I'm not sure.  Anyone else have ideas?<<
 
As far as I have heard, he is honoring his contract through this season, and
that's it. He is too good an actor, and feels, I think, that if he stays
another season he will wind up like Shatner...typecast in the STTNG Zone
forever.
 
-Ira-

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Subject: Rascals
From: dprebyl@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:21:16 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

Hey guys, I just wanted to point out something...

In Rascals I find it extremely disturbing that the Ferangi (sp?) were able to 
take over the Enterprise so quickly and without the enterprise giving much
more than a single phaser shot.  Hell, they put up more resistence to borg 
than a singe phaser shot.  Maybe Riker is just getting stupid??!!!

Anyway I am willing to entertain suggestions on how they could of taken over
the ship so quicly.
From: schenker@sunburn.ec.usf.edu. (Adam Schenker (GE))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Wild Wild Worf (Where's my bat?)
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:22:29 GMT
Organization: Univ. of South Florida, College of Engineering

In article <1992Nov3.125911.1724@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_coolidgeas@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>I am going to barf ("blow chunks" to you next generation:)).
>
>I mean the next episode with the holodeck trouble, and the old west scenery.
>
>ACK.  I mean first: It's a holodeck episode, which means that they are running
>out of "real" plots.  (Q is their second plot contrivance, but he has some good
>moments:)) I mean, wasn't it the 2nd or third season in which the last total
>show took place in the holodeck.  To me, it was late third season (AB-"after
>beard") that TNG started cooking.
>
>Second: It's a ripoff of the Gunfight at OK Corral episode in the TOS!!!!!
>        
>Ug! Shades of the Naked Now!
>
>Third: I'm going to watch this episode anyway. *sigh*  Pathetic, huh?
>
>gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe
>
>Time to put on the ol' flame proof bikini...
>
>--Akane


I don't suppose you could actually WATCH the episode to see if you like
it? :) Naaaa. That would be asking too much. (hey, I liked the coming
attractions).

And, for the record, I don't think there's anything 'pathetic' about
watching Trek. :)
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From: gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (David Caruso II)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: More damned Laments.  Can I say that?
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:56:44 CST
Organization: America, Planet Earth

Okay, another lament, but can you blame me?

	"A Fistful of Data's" was, unfortunately, as expected *sigh*, 
pretty lame.  Nothing interesting.  Boring.  Sleepy-minded stuff.

	I'm really gettting sick of Brent Spiner doing his drawling accent,
like he did on *Night Court.*  It's getting old.  He can do it, so what.  I
mean, hey, he's done a pretty good job of avoiding the type-casting blues, I
think.  Enough is enough.  Wait a minute ... I just had a thought.  Maybe
it's not for Brent Spiner's sake ... maybe the producers really are hurting
that badly for something interesting ... 

	I watched "The Defector" just after it, and sighed and wondered, 
"What happened to this wonderful show?! *sob*"


	Anyway, I think we should all pen a letter to Paramount and demand 
they get back with the program ... if they're going to spend all that money 
to make an episode, they might as well do it right ... I mean, we know they 
can, because we've seen it before.

	It's a sad day for the world when *Star Trek: The Next Generation* 
succombs to the shallowness and stupidity that is mainstream TV.  What can 
we do about this?  A coup? :)

	Thanks for sitting through yet another blab-session from a lamenting 
ST:TNG second, third, and fourth season lover ...


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 David Caruso II                               Email: gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
From: gimble@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (David Caruso II)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: "Dream Seasons"
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:28:25 CST
Organization: America, Planet Earth

Notes on trial seasons (first) and bad seasons (sixth):

	Whenever I see some episode that simple doesn't fall in line with 
the true spirit of the Next Generation (as viewed by me, of course), I throw
it off as a "Dream."

	Because I don't want to have the world of the Next Generation that 
exists in my imagination spoiled by bad episodes or even a whole season with 
major incongruities, they become dreams, somehow.  Collective dreams, I don't 
know.

	The first season was the "Dream Season."  Especially, "The Naked 
Now."  That was all a dream.  The sixth season is unfolding as another 
"Dream Season."  If you're like me, you can guess why.
	All this relative to the third season, which was what I deem as 
truly superior in possibly every way.  The third season is the basis for my 
obsession with the concepts presented in ST:TNG.

	Thanks for sitting through this babble ...


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From: bmcraw01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Rascals SPOILERS
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:32:59 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <Bx4Jvx.28G@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
 (Matt J. Martin) writes:
>     First of all, here's something you should've included.  Dumb ass.
> 
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> 
>     Second of all, if you had paid even a small semblance of attention,
> you would have noticed that the uniforms weren't changed by the transporter.
> They were baggy when they first materialized, then correct after the 
> commercial, implying that they changed.  Then, when Picard was ready to
> "grow up" in the transporter, he was wearing the baggy uniform again.
> 
>     Please watch the episode more closely before you waste our valuable
> time again.  
> 
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Why is the net so full of self-righteous bigots who contribute nothing more
vaulable than hostile criticisms of others' opinions?  I want to know where you
and all the others who do the same thing get off on thinking that you have the
better opinion.  If you are such a great fan of _Star Trek_, then maybe you
should examine the values it presents a little more closely.  I don't think any
one of the bridge officers would come off to another person in this manner. 
Every person who uses this network has a valid right to participate and express
his/her own opinions.  If that person happens to have missed something about a
particular episode, there is no reason to insult that person.  You are not God,
Yahweh, Jehovah, Zeus, or any other deity who has the right to sit in judgment
of another.  Do you claim First Ammendment rights for yourself?  If so, then do
you deny those right to others because you don't deem them worthy?  Think about
it.

In the words of Jean-Luc Picard, "There can be no justice so long as laws are
abolute."