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From: caross@acsu.buffalo.edu (Christian Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: The Big Game: Would have gone, but no rental.
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:47:34 GMT
Organization: UB

Just thought to throw this in, myself and two friends, who are moderately 
engaged in the sport, had planned a trip to the Big Game since it was 
announced. Too bad that when we registered six weeks in advance, we were told 
no rental guns were available, and no attempt was being made to secure more. 
Glad we hadn't made camping reservations yet either.

I am inclined to think Skirmish lost a lot of potential players 
because of this. Being in a financially tight situation, namely college, we 
havn't bought are own guns, since, odds are that we play less than once every 
three months on average, rental is cheaper esp. considering the depreciation 
of older  guns as new technologies are perfected. 

IMHO, there are probably many potential players out there in this boat, and, 
though I can't really fault Skirmish, whose resources were undoubtedly taxed
by this event, perhaps in the future some more consideration could be made for
newer / less wealthy players, by whatever field owners/suppliers are involved.

Considering what I read in the post-game review, probably just as well that 
we decided to attend a smaller outing in Rochester, sounds like we had a much 
less hectic, more enjoyable experience. Adequate refereeing, and friendly 
people make all the difference. 

Just my two cents. Direct thoughtless flames to /dev/null.
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From: sheepdog@en.ecn.purdue.edu (SheepDog)
Subject: Fields near Austin, TX
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 15:30:51 GMT

  I'll soon be moving to the Austin area (early Aug.) and am looking
for information on fields and games in that area.  I have my own equipment
and have been playing for about 6 months.  Any help would be appreciated.


           Todd Schelling

	sheepdog@en.ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 31 Jul 1992 12:01:35 CDT
From: DMc <U53306@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: 68 Automag = full auto?
 <1992Jul30.180503.2990@com50.c2s.mn.org> <1992Jul31.145126.12563@panix.com>

there are people who will buy anything....I know a guy who has the agitator
loader and he swears by it (I have known he was crazy for years).

The problem with loaders and automags is that if your loader gets too empty
the pressure to load the ball can reduce enough to give feeds that are too
slow for rapid fire and you can have some serious breakages.

my buddy with the automag will break a ball almost every time his loader gets
down to the last 5 or 10 balls.  he just pays more attention to the volume
left in his loader and he has no problems.

Dave McCarty <u53306@uicvm.uic.edu> <mccarty@earth.eecs.uic.edu>
Paintballer Extraordinaire  (HA!)  F.Y.B.I.P.P.B.  IPPA #5666
coming soon:  <dlm@psyche.jglaser.com>  master of uniVerse!
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From: albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong)
Subject: Re: Paintball in Japan?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:26:58 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: japan

In article <Bs4p4D.9yF@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tj32633@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ronin) writes:
>Does anyone know if Paintball is popular in Japan or any of the other Asian
>countries?  
>
>Thanks...:)

Well, I think paintball as we know it hasn't caught on in Japan yet.
They do play a game using those realistic arisoft guns. They look like
real M-16's, AK-47's et al, but shoot little plastic BBs.  They even
have a 6 barrell vulcan canon gun like the one they used in the
Predator movie.  All chrome...$3000. $_$
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From: jfol@hydra.unm.edu (joshua l follicks-shields)
Subject: Re: BIG GAME assignments
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:06:26 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

   How do I get a neato keen team Internet badge. Gosh would I like one.
Whoever knows can try to email me, or if that doesn't work, post.
Thanks in advance.

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From: gt9989a@prism.gatech.EDU (John Martin Chapman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: The EVIL of Paintball....
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:39:59 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

About a year ago, a friend of mine accidentally shot and killed one of his good friends.   He had played paintball a number of times before the incident and    the thought did cross my mind.   After hearing the facts, I was convinced that  it was carelessness, not paintball, that caused the accidental death.  I can't   say that I didn't expect it to be brought up during the trial, but surprisingly it wasn't.   The parents of the decedent didn't press charges, and at the request of those parents and hours o

f deliberation and testimony, the state dropped the charges.

John

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From: mikep@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Mike Powell)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:09:16 GMT
Subject: looking for game in N. California
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball

	
	Hi.... I'm interested in joining the sport. (very)

	I live in N. California...  in Sonoma County.  Anyone know
	who I should see about getting involved in a game?


	-Mike-

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From: nv89-pla@nada.kth.se (Peter Laan)
Subject: Paintball in denmark?
Originator: nv89-pla@hemul.nada.kth.se
Reply-To: nv89-pla@nada.kth.se (Peter Laan)
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:30:52 GMT

Do they sell paintball guns in Denmark? Any shops in Copenhagen
you would like to recommend?


Peter
From: wedwards@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Pro/Am $340, Illust $335, PMI-3 $260
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:11:26 GMT


  I just placed and order with DRACO in GA and found out about their latest
sale on semi autos.  If you order before 7/31 you can get a Pro/Am for $340,
a Illustrator for $335, or a PMI-3 for $260.  All three are complete with a C/A 
bottle and ammo box.  I don't know if anything else is on sale, but these are
the lowest prices I seen yet.  There number is 1-800-642-5039.

Walt Edwards   
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From: albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball,alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Paintball in Japan?
Keywords: japan
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:35:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Jul29.225627.9848@panix.com> henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan) writes:
>
>Don't forget to add, depending on the quality of the replica it might cost more
>than a real M-16/AR-15 or AK-47.
>

Actually, a long many years ago, Toy's R Us used to sell a few Tamiya
airsoft pistols.  Being the poor student I was back then,  I didn't
buy 'em. :(  An airsoft M-60 would be nice to have.

>About 2-3 weeks ago the local Chinese news broadcast reported on an air-soft
>accident in Taiwan where an individual's eye was put out.  I didn't fully 

From what I have seen in pictures, the eye protection varies from
plastic lenses (I don't know how durable these are) to a metal mesh
type goggle.  In the case of airsoft, I'd go for the metal mesh as it
would be less likely to shatter.

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From: mdmelvin@cayley.waterloo.edu (Tyrant)
Subject: Re: Wanted - Advice on which brand of Head gear to Buy
Keywords: head gear
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:31:08 GMT

In article <Bs4p1o.9vt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tj32633@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ronin) writes:
>Hi, I have a problem, with there being so many different models of head gear on
>the market I don't know which one I should get.  Right now I am looking at the
>PMI Power Helmet (I think that is what it is called) and the JT X-fire system.
>But I want to know if I could just get a simple face mask and a pair of safety
>goggles.  Can you give me some advice on what you use and why or what model you
>recommend for me to buy.
>
>Thanks in advance!!!!

DON'T buy a PMI Pursuit helmet.  They are not safe.  My head gear of choice is
the Vents system.  The goggles are good, and the protection is good as well.

	Tyrant.
From: billc@mpd.tandem.com (Bill Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: The EVIL of Paintball....
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:32:30 GMT
Reply-To: billc@devnul.mpd.tandem.com (Bill Carter)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Austin TX


   Paintball does have an image problem, and I think that will be the
   case for a long time.  If we didn't look so much like guerilla
   commandos with gas masks when we play, it might be different.
   The idea of shooting 'guns' at each other seems to make people
   uneasy as well.  Oddly, hunting and killing innocent wild game
   doesn't bother our culture.  Violent contact sports like football,
   boxing, wrestling, etc. are also accepted as the norm.  I know I've
   received far worse injuries playing soccer than paintball, the latter
   being a sport where physical contact is strictly forbidden.

   I remember the first time I checked out a paintball field while
   driving around with my family.  We pulled up to this place way
   out in the boondocks.  It was between games, and all these
   scruffy-looking characters in camoflage were hunkering around
   toting weird guns, munching potato(e) chips and looking vaguely
   hostile, probably because the paint cost them $2/tube.  It was
   like we had wandered in to some third-world jungle conflict, and
   my wife wouldn't let the kids out of the car.

   It's true the game both looks and feels dangerous to play, but in
   fact it is about as safe as golf or tennis (ever had someone nail
   you with a tennis ball when you were playing the net)?  That pseudo-
   danger is part of what makes playing paintball such a quality
   experience.  Maybe it isn't a sport for everyone.  That suits me
   okay.

   I would say that people should watch a paintball game sometime before
   forming an opinion about it, but that would take them a fair amount
   of effort since paintball isn't really a very good spectator sport.
   The game is such a new one that at least half the people I talk
   to have never heard of it.  Eventually it will be assimilated,
   though probably will remain a fringe sport like scuba diving and
   hang gliding (except with them you can actually get killed).

   -Bill Carter
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From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball,alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Paintball in Japan?
Keywords: japan
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:42:46 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <Bs4p4D.9yF@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tj32633@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ronin) writes:
>Does anyone know if Paintball is popular in Japan or any of the other Asian
>countries?  
>

I saw an article in one of the recent issue of APG magazine about the situation
of paintball in Japan.  At the present paintguns are not allowed into the 
country.  The writer of the article explains how he and other fellow pursuit
game enthusiast turn to air-soft guns.  Air-Soft guns are japanese airguns
firing 6mm (25 caliber) plastic BBs.  Japan has severely restrictive firearms
laws that virtually none of its citizenry have firearms.  Air-soft guns fill
the domestic demand for shooting sports.  Because there are no firearms in the 
country the air-soft manufacturers can turn out air-soft guns in exacting
replica to real firearms.  Remember when Daisy marketed 4 or 5 air-soft guns
a few years back but were pulled because it was a marketing flop and the toy
gun legislature.  Daisy had some nice models from pistols resembling Berretta
92 to InterArms KG-9 drug dealer MP to folding stock UZIs and Mini-14s. These
guns were spring powere so they had no range and accuracy to speak of.  
I seen gas powered version which shot at either semi-auto or full and a 3
round burst mode, on one H&K MP5 replica, with enough power to pierce a soda can
.  I was considering purchasing a AK-47 replica to bring back from Hong Kong but
decided I would have a hard time getting it through customs.  Air-Soft guns come
in all price category but the average is about $2-400 U.S. dollars.  

According to the article in APG, pursuit gaming enthusiast in Japan shoot each
other with a light weight 6mm plastic BB and rely on the honor system for hits.
There are marking pellets availible made up of sponge like material which you
soak in a ink dye.  I seen it in use and leave a faint mark hard to tell unless
you hit a hard target like the back of a notebook.

In another issue of APG, in the letter to the editor section, it was mentioned 
Paintball was played in HongKong using 62 caliber Tippmann guns firing at 180 
fps.

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From: dwj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID W. JONES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Weather in PA?? -- BIG GAME
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:56:24 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Jul23.141712.16991@bcrka451.bnr.ca>, dak@bkana58.bnr.ca(Darren
Keyes) writes:
>
>       Anyone out there know the weather forcast for the Big
>Game area in PA this weekend? If so please post it in this
>newsgroup for all to read.
>
>(Don't email me cause it just won't get here.)
>
>Wood. Red B.


>Saturday-Clouds and Occassional Sunshine - High 84.
 Sunday-Some Hazy Sun, humid, evening thunderstorms - High 88.

 Better have a thermal lens if you want see your opponent. If you don't,
 I've used RAIN-X anti fog (black bottle) and it does the job although you
 will have to apply it more than once throughout the day.


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From: albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Game variations
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:49:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <36740004@hpmwmat.sr.hp.com> mikep@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Mike Powell) writes:
>
>	New to the game.... (first play coming this weekend....)

Have fun!

>
>	What are the variations common to the game?

There are many variations to paintball.  Most common ones are team
elimination (eliminate the other team), capture the flag( grab the
opponents flag and bring it back to you base), attack/defend (one team
defends a base, the other team tries to take it over), speedball
(played on a smallish field, flag in middle, grab flag and take it to
the other side).

>	What kind of games are played in indoor facilities...?

eam elimination and capture the flag are the most common indoor tyoe
games.  Though I haven't played indoors too many times.
	
>	What is more fun... outdoor or indoor?

Depends on how you like to play.  Indoors are more close ranged.  If
you like playing in mazes, weird lighting, fast paced games, you
probably will like playing indoors.  Playing outdoors are more open,
slower paced (until you reach the opponents base...), longer ranges.
Plus, you get to check how well you camoflauge works. ^_^

>	Do I understand that being hit once means that you leave the
>	game...?  Are their any variations where multiple hits are
>	required to take a player out?


The rules are basically up to your group and the refs.  If you want to
give everyone three lives then you can.  Some games might have a medic
that runs around bringing people back into the game.  There are
reincarnation games where you have to walk back to your base to get
back into the game.

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From: henryc@panix.com (Henry Chan)
Subject: Re: BIG GAME assignments
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:27:10 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <50dmaxl@lynx.unm.edu> jfol@hydra.unm.edu (joshua l follicks-shields) writes:
>   How do I get a neato keen team Internet badge. Gosh would I like one.
>Whoever knows can try to email me, or if that doesn't work, post.

I don't know.  I'm still waiting for my Team Internet decoder ring.  I drank
all my olvatine and sent in 200 Cal Mag box tops.  :-)

BTW I nominate the VM-68 as the official Team Internet gun.  Afterall, Sheridan
claims VM stands for Virtual Machine (IBM strikes again) though UNIX people
might protest.

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From: caa@com50.c2s.mn.org (Charles Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: 68 Automag = full auto?
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:05:03 GMT
Organization: Com Squared Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Jul28.082402.3150@ducvax.auburn.edu> wedwards@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
|
| I've heard that the 68 Automag with a power feeder can fire as fast as 9 balls 
|per second!  I don't know if true, but I did see one in use and it was the
|fastest semi-auto I've seen.  I would like to know the following:
| 
|1) How does the power feeder work? 
It works by having the bolt bounce the next paintball in line off the back
side of the feed tube down in the bore.
|
|2) Why can't a feeder this fast be used on a gun made or converted to fire
|full-auto?
It could, however your biggest problem would be getting a bulk feeder that
can keep up, you would end up firing half a dozen balls then shake your
feeder to get them to feed.  Most people don't realize how much proper
feeding relies on shaking your gun, I can fire my automag without much
jostling at all, and what I get is balls not feeding after a few shots
even with my new Indian Springs Maxi-Loader.
|
|3) Has anyone heard of an air/gun smith attempting something like this?
No
|
|Like me, I don't expect many netters to be able to give any technical answers
|to these questions.  Any opinions and here-say will also be appreciated
|
|Walt Edwards  

The Automag can not by operated reliably full auto, it was designed that way
on purpose.

-Charlie
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From: billc@mpd.tandem.com (Bill Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Wanted - Advice on which brand of Head gear to Buy
Keywords: head gear
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:51:29 GMT
Reply-To: billc@zippy.UUCP (Bill Carter)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Austin TX

In article <Bs4p1o.9vt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tj32633@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ronin) writes:
>Hi, I have a problem, with there being so many different models of head gear on
>the market I don't know which one I should get.  Right now I am looking at the
>PMI Power Helmet (I think that is what it is called) and the JT X-fire system.
>But I want to know if I could just get a simple face mask and a pair of safety
>goggles.  Can you give me some advice on what you use and why or what model you
>recommend for me to buy.
>
   If you mean by "safety goggles" the kind of eyewear you can get
   at the hardware store, be warned; they are definitely not appropriate
   for paintball.  Good paintball headgear usually costs more than $50
   but is worth it in terms of preventing hickies.

   This issue is covered somewhat in our FAQ, but I think the best goggles
   currently available are Vents Predators.  They are relatively cool
   and fog-free, allow good peripheral vision, and have a clasp at the
   back of the headband.  They come with wraparound head armor.  I have
   seen them selling for between $55 and $75.

   Also good are Scott Panorama goggles.  I can't stand the JT headgear,
   but they are better than some I've used.  Try on the headgear before
   you buy it, especially if you wear glasses.

   -Bill Carter
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