HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 31 Aug 1992 14:23:00 CDT
From: Jon Weintraub <U46251@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: uic.wanted,uic.general,chi.forsale,chi.general
Subject: 1BR apartment -- East Rogers Pk -- Affordable


PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND VIA EMAIL.

One-bedroom apartment available in Rogers Park.  Lots of windows!
Steps to the park, easy walk to the beach.  Near Howard and Jarvis
L stations, (Trains to downtown, Evanston, Skokie.  Many buses).

Affordable and very nice.  Heat+water included.  Call Donna, 508-9722.

PLEASE DO NOT RESPOND VIA EMAIL.
Newsgroups: chi.forsale
From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: Borzoi needs a home
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:33:33 GMT


The West Suburban Humane Society has a gorgeous borzoi (Russian Wolfhound)
that is in desperate need of a home.  Zoro is a black and white male who
is painfully thin, even for a borzoi.  He is a very calm, older dog who
was picked up by animal control; his owners refused to pick him up so
Zoro was scheduled to be euthanized when the humane society took him in.
Unfortunately he's too large for the beds we have for him so he's sleeping
on the concrete floor waiting for a home.

People who are not acquainted with borzois often have misconceptions about
the breed.  Although they are very large (tall) they are extremely gentle
animals, and Zoro is no exception.  They are generally very docile, and
work out well as indoor dogs.  Zoro, as most borzois, is very quiet--
I have never heard him bark.  I've seen him interact with a few small
children and other dogs with no problems, but that, of course, is no
guarantee.  Zoro would do well in a home that has no stairs.  A large
apartment or condo with an elevator would be fine.  A ranch style 
house would be wonderful.  He is absolutely gorgeous with a beautiful
coat, but needs to put on a few pounds.  Although he looks like a
dog bred for running, he will not need excessive exercise.  He will need
conscientious grooming--every few days, for which he is very patient.
When he wants a little attention, he sidles up to you and gently leans
to remind you that he's there.  It is hard to think of a sweeter, gentler
dog that is more in need of a new owner.

If you are interested in seeing Zoro, or any of the 19 other dogs at
the West Suburban Humane Society, you can see him 1901 W. Ogden Ave.,
Downers Grove. MTWF 11-2; M-F 7-9; S&S 11-3.  


-- 
                              O             betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu
_          __                  \            
  \      /    \       -- >      O           E. C. Weatherhead
   \ __ /      \ __ /          /            5734 S. Ellis  Chicago, 60637
Newsgroups: local.soc.forsale,chi.forsale,misc.forsale,misc.consumers
From: colette@bnr.ca (Colette George)
Subject: Re: JEWLERY FOR SALE- BIG, BIG DISCOUNT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research 
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:23:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.154641.8389@tc.fluke.COM>, kurt@tc.fluke.COM (Kurt Guntheroth) writes:
|> 
|> While color D would be a very clear diamond, a clarity grade of VS-2 is only
|> one step above "coal" and would hardly be considered "excellent clarity".
|> An oval cut diamond of clarity VS-2 may be less than exciting.
|> 
|> Just a little note about buying jewelry on usenet.

A diamond with D-colour and clarity VS-2 may be an excellent diamond depending 
on where the inclusions are located on the stone.  Generally, colour and cut 
are far more important to the "look" of a stone than clarity (unless, of 
course, you can actually see the inclusions).  If the stone in question has a 
good make, there would be little difference to the naked eye between a D-colour
diamond with VS-2 clarity, and a D-colour diamond with VVS1 clarity.

By the way, VS-2 isn't one step above "coal".  I believe there are 3 grades 
below VS-2 (namely, I-1, I-2, and I-3).  VS-2 is still in a "good" range 
for jewelry because you cannot see the inclusions with the naked eye, but you
are correct that VS-2 is not considered "excellent clarity".  

-- 
===================================================================
Colette George 			
Bell-Northern Research Ltd. 	Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Internet:  colette@bnr.ca 
===================================================================
Newsgroups: chi.forsale,chi.wanted,uchi.forsale,uchi.wanted
From: haz1@quads.uchicago.edu (william russell hazelrig)
Subject: Cheap 68000-based Mac wanted
Summary: Willing to pay $200-$450, depending; more later
Reply-To: haz1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 08:08:09 GMT

Mac Plus, 1mb RAM, FD only (no HD): $200.
Mac Plus/SE, 2.5 or 4 mb RAM, no HD: $250-300
Mac Plus/SE, 2.5 or 4 mb RAM, 20 mb HD: $350-400
Mac Plus/SE, 2.5 or 4 mb RAM, HD >20 mb or other frills: up to $450
w/ modem (2400 baud or better) negotiable addition to price offered

No printers PLEASE! (I have an ImageWriter II already).

Call (312)684-1505, ask for Bill
OR e-mail haz1@midway.uchicago.edu
Note: phone number good only through September 14th; e-mail only after that.


Newsgroups: chi.forsale,chi.wanted
From: rchang@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (ruth.a.chang)
Subject: furniture for sale
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: furniture, bed, desk, table
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:25:14 GMT


MISCELLANEOUS FOR SALE:


Dark brown office desk with walnut top finish (24" x 54"),
     2 drawers on each side of desk             $40


2' x 6' coffee table                            $10


Full-size bed with boxspring, mattress, frame   $25




Please call (708) 979-2148 for more information.
From: akcs.scramer@vpnet.chi.il.us (Steve Cramer)
Newsgroups: chi.forsale
Subject: FORSALE:  Apple 5.25" Drives
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:55:05 CDT
Keywords: disk, drive, apple


I'm looking to sell some great to mint condition Apple ][ (5.25") drives.
All have under 25 hours operational time on them.

(2) Apple Disk ][ Drives
(2) Apple Platinum Drives
(1) Gamma RD-100 (40 track) drive (It hooks up the same way as a Disk ][)

Also, I have one 'not quite working' Apple Disk ][ Drive.  It boots but
doesn't read.  could be as simple as a fast mech.  For those who want a
fixer-upper or for parts.

Any reasonable offer considered!

Steve C.
akcs.scramer@vpnet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.forsale
From:  (Ben Bell)
Subject: Mac LC + RGB monitor 4sale
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 16:14:36 GMT

Mac LC (68020) 40mb internal, *6 mb RAM*, hd floppy drive, purch 4/91
12" apple RGB monitor, brand new (never opened)
loaded w/SW, ADB keyboard, mouse+pad incl.

$1400 firm

e-mail or 312-281-8806 evenings

Benjamin Bell
The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Northwestern University
Evanston IL 60201
USA
Newsgroups: chi.forsale,uchi.forsale
From: abg1@quads.uchicago.edu (andrew brian gross)
Subject: Amiga monitor forsale
Reply-To: abg1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 01:14:25 GMT

I have a used Commodore 2002 monitor forsale.  This is a basic RGB monitor,
similar to the 1084s (I believe).

The monitor works fine with an Amiga 500, and I assume that it works with
other models as well.  It comes with the cable necessary to hook it up to
an A500; I don't know whether this cable is the correct one for hooking it
up to other models or not.

The monitor has a slight cosmetic ding on its left side; it in no way
affects performance, and isn't really that visible from the front.

The monitor comes with velcro affixed to the front, by means of which you
can attach a Polaroid anti-glare polarizing screen.  The screen works great;
it's highly recommended.

Along with the monitor and the anti-glare screen, I will also throw in a 
handy metal monitor stand, useful if you have the A500 (it provides room
to slide the keyboard underneath the monitor).

I am asking $75 for the whole lot, but if you're interested you can make me
an offer; I will hold out for $75 for a week or so, and then consider any
lower offers.

First $75 takes it.  Please respond via e-mail so I can tell when responses
were posted.

Andrew B. Gross
abg1@cicero.spc.uchicago.edu

or, if worse comes to worse and e-mail bounces,

(312) 363-8155
From: swarner@bbs1984.chi.il.us (Steve Warner)
Newsgroups: chi.forsale
Subject: 1948 Dodge for sale:
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:56:06 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization


      For Sale:  1948 Dodge 4 door Sedan
      
      This car is in excellent condition with 59,000 original miles.
Meticulously kept and sports new blue paint, new mohair interior, new 
brakes and even new "wide white-wall" original tires. It's 230 Cubic 
Inch engine was rebuilt 4k miles ago. Replated chrome. This car is so 
nice it has won awards in car shows. As a side benefit, antique 
license plate only cost $7/year, insurance $48/year, and it is NOT 
required to pass EPA testing. Asking $7000 or best offer.
 
Call Mark at (708) 333-9624
From: akcs.scramer@vpnet.chi.il.us (Steve Cramer)
Newsgroups: chi.forsale
Subject: FORSALE:  APPLE ][GS/ AE RamKeeper
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:55:02 CDT
Keywords: ram, apple, ae


I have an Applied Engineering RamKeeper GS in great condition that I am
looking to sell.  (It allows the use of more than one memory board for
the Apple ][ GS computer).  All parts & manual are included.  It sells for
around $200 new.



Any Reasonable offer considered.  (I need the cash more than I need the
                                  (cash more than I need the card.)


Steve C.
akcs.scramer@vpnet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.forsale,chi.mac,uchi.forsale,uchi.general,uchi.mac
From: haz1@ellis.uchicago.edu (william russell hazelrig)
Subject: Mac IIsi SOLD
Summary: Mac IIsi advertised for $1500 has been sold.
Keywords: Too Late
Reply-To: haz1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:08:11 GMT

I can't say I regret to do this, but it looks like I have to cancel my offer
on the Mac the same day I posted it because one very fast person has already
bought.  My apologies for the disappointment, to those who were hoping...

- haz1@midway.uchicago.edu (Bill)



Newsgroups: ca.general
From: case@ucs.sdsu.edu (Steve Case)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California (LA is NOT all the same)
Organization: San Diego State University, Data Communications
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:45:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.155112.13997@nosc.mil> price@nosc.mil (James N. Price) 
writes:
>
>HOGWASH! "LA" starts in San Clemente and ends west of Thousand
>Oaks in one dimension, and it goes from Santa Monica to east of
>San Bernardino the other way.  And the tentacles are spreading
>ever further.
>
>By "LA," I, as a non-resident of same, refer to the solid mass of
>houses, industrial parks, Burger Kings, and linear shopping malls
>that clog the above mentioned boundaries.  You can talk all you
>want to about different living conditions, the "spirit" of a
>certain area, etc.  But as one who has to drive thru "LA" to get
>anywhere (I live in San Diego), it's all a seemingly unending
>freeway, and the best I can ever hope for is to get thru it in
>less than 2 hours!
>
>To partially quell the flames that I'll get by having said the
>above, I do know there are true neighborhoods in different parts
>of LA, very different living standards, degrees of safety, etc.
>And I'm glad the guy in the Crenshaw district really likes it
>there.  We go to LA fairly often to partake of concerts, art
>exhibits, etc. that don't make it down here to SD.  My problem is
>that going to or through LA is always an ordeal, and from the
>freeway, it's all the same, and 90% of it's ugly!
>
>--Jim

Try driving north on I-210 sometime. My wife and I thought all of LA looked 
the same until using this route to bypass I-5. Once you get past Pasadena, 
it's really very pretty, yet you are still in LA County (I think). Not 
anything like you see on 5 or 405. More than just "different"  
neighborhoods,  there are lots of rolling hills, nice looking communities 
and very little smog in this area. We found this quite surprising and 
actually took sometime to drive through a few of the towns. And, no, I'm not 
from LA. Never lived there, either. Born and raised and lived most of my 
life in San Diego (seems like being "local" to an area is a prerequisite for 
posting to this thread).

I think some of the towns were called "Tujunga" (sp?), "Glendale" and "San 
Fernando" (don't know if this is the same as the infamous San Fernando 
valley... but it wasn't grody, dude). Unfortunately, you have to drive 
through shear ugliness to get there (ie: I-10 through Pomono and Ontario). 
Ever noticed how many bullet holes the freeway signs have on I-10 (and 
probably other LA freeways)?
--
Steve Case (case@ucs.sdsu.edu) | "Cover for me!"
Data Communications Group      | "Oh, good idea, boss!"
University Computing Services  | "It was like that when I got here."
San Diego State University     | - Homer's standard disclaimers.
San Diego, California 92182    | "My opinions only" - my standard disclaimer
From: vnesiah@usc.edu (Deep Third Man)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Air Tickets => Boston to Los Angeles (one way)
Date: 26 Aug 1992 08:42:06 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Boston to Los Angeles - One way

Travel on August 30th. - Non-stop flight.

3 tickets available.

$ 100.00 each.

Respond by E-mail.

First reasonable offer accepted. (deal on all three)

<vnesiah@aludra.usc.edu>
From: ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:52:00 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ca
  <1992Aug24.161009.26427@cs.ucla.edu> <1992Aug27.204648.29599@aero.org>

> The problem with most people who complain about traffic is that they
> have this perverse desire/need/compulsion to live somewhere far from
> work. All you techies could live relatively near to your work if you
> wanted to. I work in El Segundo and live in the Baldwin Hills area

Another possibility is to work a slightly shifted schedule.  When I
lived in Pasadena and worked in Santa Monica, I left around 11 am.
I took the 10 right through downtown LA with no problems -- 60 MPH.
Coming home at 7 or 8 PM was usually easy, too.

If we could just get past the silly concept of "normal business
hours," things could be a lot better.

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Leaving California
Keywords: quiting,california
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:49:43 GMT

kilroy@netcom.com (Jeffrey S. Shulman) wrote: 
->Aside from the tax deduction and whatever equity you are getting yourself the
->big deal of home ownership is CONTROL over your life.

this is highly exaggerated.

->I have rented before and found the lack of control of where you live, HOW you
->live, and worry about year-to-year lease renewal the biggest detriments to
->renting over ownership.

???  lack of control over where i live?  i control that thoroughly: i
live where i can afford to rent.  this isn't any different than owning
a home.  how i live has never been an issue:  i find suitable quarters
to meet my needs ... i live in what would (probably improperly) be
called a flat in san francisco's pacific heights neighborhood.  i have
neighbors downstairs who mostly don't exist (they're a business ...
very M-F 0900-1700) and to the rear (two guys who work for oracle)
whom i see maybe three times a year ... i never hear them, and they
don't hear me.  the worry about year-to-year renewal isn't an issue,
either, unless you're being unreasonable or the landlord has different
plans for the property over time (most renters don't have this
problem).

->This society from tax laws to preferential treatment is definately geared to
->those who OWN rather than those who rent.

thanks to the impossible american dream.

home ownership is highly overrated, and exists to keep our banking
industry afloat.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:44:20 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

Robert S. Helfman <helfman@aero.org> writes:

	Once you've seen the flats of LA shrouded in ground fog at
	dawn, with a disembodied downtown looking like the floating
	city from "The Empire Strikes Back", you'd never consider
	moving again.

Seen that, been there.  Yawn.

Heckuva good reason to live in a place like LA, though.  Gotta give ya
that one.

/jordan
From: chuq@gallant.apple.com (Chuq Von Rospach)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:54:38 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: I is a writur

eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:

>You know Jordan, LA used to be a pretty nice place to live. Like when
>the 91 freeway didn't exist, and to get to Dizzyland you drove past
>dairy farms and orange groves. When was that? ;^)

That was before I was born, Eugene. I grew up down there, and he's right. It
was a decent place to live, back when you could see the mountains at least
50 days a year (hah! try that now) or more. Of course, that all ended before
I hit puberty. Of course, you'll notice that I've been living elsewhere for
the last 13 or 14 years, too. Each time I go visit, I get more and more
depressed about how screwed up it is.

(By the way, Orange County is NOT LA. NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT. Please don't
mistake the two. Those of us who grew up on the other side of the orange
curtain get just a bit teed off by that one. Not as teed off as the San
Diego folks do when they get virtually annexed, but it's close. they really
are separate cultural areas in most ways. hell, just look at the whackos
O.C. send to Washington. LA wouldn't WANT to take credit for most of
them...)

-- 
Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX) =+= Member, SFWA
  chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ =+= Editor, OtherRealms
	A real SF writur with stories in ALTERNATE KENNEDYS and THE 
	  FURTHER ADVENTURES OF BATMAN, in better bookstores now!
Newsgroups: ca.general
From: rcarter@gaudi.nas.nasa.gov (Russell L. Carter)
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 22:54:57 GMT
Distribution: ca

In article <17dtpuINNr18@agate.berkeley.edu> lazzaro@boom.CS.Berkeley.EDU (John Lazzaro) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.221109.5495@pacdata.uucp> jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins) writes:
>
>>As I talk to friends I realize that highly educated, professional
>>types like me pretty much are all thinking of leaving. [...]  more
>>populous.  Really makes one wonder about the state's future.
>
>For balance, I know a lot of "highly educated, professional types" who
>got their Ph.D.'s in state, and had to leave the state for professonal
>advancement, and are considering making major sacrifices to come back
>to CA again. From what I can see from my friends, people who see
>quality of life as "inexpensive housing in a nice neighborhood with
>good schools, ect." are happier elsewhere; those who like diversity (in
>all its forms) and nice weather want to come back.
>

This seems pretty accurate to me.  I've alway's viewed CA (well
actually San Francisco) as Disneyland for cultural spelunkers
like myself, and I've enjoyed it that way for a few years.  But
now that the kid is on the way, and I'd really like to garden,
and the constant buzz of beautiful weather has begun to numb
the senses...

Russell
Newsgroups: ca.general,ba.general
From: markp@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Mark Panitz)
Subject: Re: Long Commutes (was Jumping the Good Ship California)
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/453-8726 - Santa Monica, CA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 03:59:34 GMT

that person is right, there are a whole slew of mass transit service
agencies in that Bay area.

Newsgroups: ca.general
From: kilroy@netcom.com (Jeffrey S. Shulman)
Subject: Re: Leaving California
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 20:07:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: quiting,california
Distribution: usa

>For one thing, what is the big poot about owning a home?

Aside from the tax deduction and whatever equity you are getting yourself the
big deal of home ownership is CONTROL over your life.

I just moved from WV where I owned my own home. I am now renting until I can
afford to buy. I had a VERY hard problem a) finding a house big enough for
me and my small home-based business, b) that had air conditioning and most
important c) that would take my cat.

I have rented before and found the lack of control of where you live, HOW you
live, and worry about year-to-year lease renewal the biggest detriments to
renting over ownership.

This society from tax laws to preferential treatment is definately geared to
those who OWN rather than those who rent.

I, for one, would LOVE everyone to leave CA so I can then afford to buy ;->
-- 
Jeff Shulman
kilroy@netcom.com
From: jlodman@cs.ucsd.edu (Michael Lodman)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Jumping the Good Ship California
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:05:06 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: CSE Department, UC San Diego

In article <1992Sep1.201113.21434@jato.jpl.nasa.gov> dave@jato.jpl.nasa.gov writes:
>>By "LA," I, as a non-resident of same, refer to the solid mass of
>>houses, industrial parks, Burger Kings, and linear shopping malls
>>that clog the above mentioned boundaries.  
>
>Why not call that the "Southland Metropolitan Area"? 

Why not "Hell on Earth"? (Most especially Pasadena :-) )


-- 
Michael Lodman	Department of Computer Science Engineering
	University of California, San Diego
jlodman@cs.ucsd.edu		      (619) 455-1500 x2627
From: Mark.Perew@p201.f208.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: An exhortation about State Taxes
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 28 Aug 92  10:37:15

In a message of <Aug 27 10:49>, Patrick Stirling (1:103/208) writes: 
 >      S A V E    C A L I F O R N I A
 >      ==============================

 >2. Look on Line 37 of your California tar return to find your total state
 >   tax for 1991.

Wrong!

This is my total state INCOME tax.  This does not include:  Sales Tax, Gas
Tax, Car Registration Fees, Admission Fees to State Parks, etc. etc. ad
infinitum ad nauseum.  All which probably exceeded the amount I paid in INCOME 
tax.

--- Mark Perew  Mark.Perew@ofa123.fidonet.org
--- Mark's Information Repository and Funtime Emporium (1:103/208.201)


--- Squish v1.00
From: singer@apple.com (Dave Singer)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Re: Where is "Sutro"?
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:36:02 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Apple Computer

> In article <1992Aug14.214137.1626@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Aref) writes:
> <A friend sent me the following query and the only thing that 
> <comes to my mind is the Sutro (sp?) baths in San Francisco. Can
> <anyone please help? 
> <
> <Please post or email to karenb@sharkbit.dazixco.ingr.com 
> <
> <-----------------------------------------------------------------
> <Well, this is from and on-line library catalog and the call
> <information says these books are in the California State Library.
> <The actual entries look something like:
> <
> <(CSL	Sutro	F292....  1987)
> <
> <where F292.xxx is an LOC call number.
> <
> <It's the Sutro bit that sort of has me baffled.
> <-----------------------------------------------------------------

The Sutro Library is in San Francisco, just behind the Stonestown shopping
center. I believe it's on Buckingham. It's a state library. It has lots
of genealogical information, quite a lot of newspaper information,
astonihsing numbers of city directories and general geography stuff. Oh,
and it also has (in a closed room) the report prepared by an assessor for
Sutro's heirs, detailing his estate (worth 4 million in 1910), which
includes photos of many of the other irrelevant features named after
Sutro which people have been mentioning in this newsgroup.
Newsgroups: ca.general