HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nmetro@radm10.is.rice.edu
Subject: Re: Wolves
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:57:09 GMT

According to various media reports, about eight weeks ago, the State
of Alaska suspended plans for killing wolves. Since the announcement,
about the wolf kill, the State of Alaska received complaints from
animal rights groups, the citizens of Alaska and other interested
parties. However, last week, I read, that Yukon Territory approved
killing of wolves by aircraft, this was similar to the action
that Alaska was going to take.
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: eah@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew)
Subject: Re: Rec Rules
Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:34:03 GMT
Followup-To: news.groups

In article <1993Jan21.014735.14127@csus.edu> arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler) writes:
> A few weeks ago, a friend of mine tried to start a group for
>unicycling, called "rec.unicycles."  After the vote, the tally was 109
>for, 37 against.   So the measure lost!  Why? because there is a rule
>that, in order to establish a new rec rec group, you must have at least
>100 more yes votes than no votes.
>  Who made up this rule?

I suppose it's the collective consciousness of the 'NET, as defined
by who can shout the longest and loudest in news.groups where policy
for the "big-7" newsgroup hierarchy is made.  Fortunately, moderate
views are also presented by those who have been on the 'NET for a few
years, or in rare cases, a decade.

>And what is the philosophy behind the 100+ idea?

A few months of concientious news.groups reading will tell you more
about the rationale than you ever thought you wanted to know.

Note that I've directed follow-ups to news.groups.

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: cscullion@TrentU.CA (chris d. scullion)
Subject: Canadian electronic networks
Reply-To: cscullion@TrentU.CA
Organization: Trent University, Peterborough
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:20:09 GMT

Greetings.....

I'm conducting some research on the development of electronic networks in 
Canada. I've done a few literature searches, but have found few academic 
articles on the sociological or cultural implications of comp networking in 
Canada.  Do you have any suggestions for a bibliography?

Any suggestions, ideas or comments would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

				chris

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: mpajula@phoenix.oulu.fi (Marketta Pajula)
Subject: Re: Are YOU in a foreign country??
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:49:43 GMT





I am in Finland, Europe. I could post for You something, if You want.

Olli Pajula, Liistetie 7 c, Oulu, Finland (Europe)
From: ceram@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J W Bottomley)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
Subject: Re: Are YOU in a foreign country??
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:49:55 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1993Jan24.180546.3007@gacvx2.gac.edu> (B. Hadden) writes:

>I like collecting stamps.  My goal is to try and collect one stamp, which
>has never been used, from every country in the world. If you are in a
>foreign land, please contact me and I'll let you know if you can help. 
>Thanks!!  
>Please e-mail at--> BHADDEN@nic.gac.edu

I am not in a foreign country. I am in England. I will not therefore need
to send you a stamp. I hope this is all perfectly clear.
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: qb7g6@fel.tno.nl (Maarten Landzaat)
Subject: Re: Are YOU in a foreign country??
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:50:24 GMT

(B. Hadden) writes:

>I like collecting stamps.  My goal is to try and collect one stamp, which
>has never been used, from every country in the world. If you are in a
>foreign land, please contact me and I'll let you know if you can help. 

Foreign from what? You expect people to say "I'm from a foreign country"?
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From: news@geovision.gvc.com (News Administrator)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
Subject: Re: Are YOU in a foreign country??
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:31:13 GMT
Reply-To: pt@compass.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario

(B. Hadden) writes:
>I like collecting stamps.  My goal is to try and collect one stamp, which
>has never been used, from every country in the world. If you are in a
>foreign land, please contact me and I'll let you know if you can help. 
>Thanks!!  
>Please e-mail at--> BHADDEN@nic.gac.edu

Well, it's not foreign to me: I was born here.

Try not to be so us-centric.  (At least I assume with an attitude like that
you must be from the US).  This _is_ a worldwide net - and people don't
consider themselves foreigners in their own homes.

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: daniel@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen)
Subject: Re: Are YOU in a foreign country??
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:05:10 GMT

In <1993Jan24.180546.3007@gacvx2.gac.edu> (B. Hadden) writes:

>I like collecting stamps.  My goal is to try and collect one stamp, which
>has never been used, from every country in the world. If you are in a
>foreign land, please contact me and I'll let you know if you can help. 
>Thanks!!  

Sorry, I'm not in a foreign country - I'm at home.


Daniel Bowen
Melbourne, Australia
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
Subject: Are YOU in a foreign country??
From: (B. Hadden)
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:05:45 -0600
Followup-To: alt.culture.usenet
Distribution: world

I like collecting stamps.  My goal is to try and collect one stamp, which
has never been used, from every country in the world. If you are in a
foreign land, please contact me and I'll let you know if you can help. 
Thanks!!  
Please e-mail at--> BHADDEN@nic.gac.edu
From: bhadden@gacvx1.gac.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
Subject: SORRY--> Are YOU in a foreign country??
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:26:35 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota
Nntp-Posting-User: bhadden

Sorry about the mix-up.  I'm new to this system, and didn't realize what I had
typed.  Sorry if it offended anyone.  I didn't mean any offense by it, and I
know it just helped to paint a bad picture of America.  Sorry.  Thank you to
those people who wrote me, and nicely pointed this out, and thank you for those
who realized I had simply made a mistake.  
Newsgroups: alt.culture.usenet
From: fox@rei.com (Fuzzy Fox)
Subject: Re: Rec Rules
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:41:34 GMT
Organization: Recognition Equipment, Inc.

arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler) writes:

>  Who made up this rule?  And what is the philosophy behind the 100+
>idea?

The theory is that if there are only a small number of people that want
a newsgroup, they can just send mail to each other and not use up lots
of net.resources sending messages around the world that only a few
people will read.

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Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: silaba@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Togar Arifin Silaban)
Subject: Kisah si Bursok
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:44:30 GMT




Dulu waktu Bursok di sekolah dasar, dia dapat pelajaran tentang
bagaimana baiknya hubungan antar sesama bangsanya. Mereka saling menolong,
gotong royong, ngeduluin kepentingan orang banyak daripada kepentingan
pribadi. Dia juga dikasi tau kalo orang Barat itu individualis, cuma
mikirin diri sendiri, tak mau tau dengan orang lain.

Pokoknya Bursok bangga banget akan budi bahasa dan tata krama
bangsanya. Masuk ke sekolah lanjutan Bursok lebih diajari lagi hal yang
sama, apa itu lewat pe-em-pe, pe-es-pe-be, sejarah dan macam-macam
lagi. Rapotnya diatas rata-rata untuk pelajaran itu. 

Waktu Bursok mendapat kesempatan sekolah keluar negeri, dia jadi
bingung ingat pelajarannya di sekolah dasar dan sekolah lanjutan dulu. Di
luar negeri Bursok melihat orang antri kalau mau naik bus, antri mau
ke kasir, nyetir mobil enggak srobot-srobotan, jaga kebersihan
lingkungan, enggak merokok disembarang tempat, pokoknya banyak lagi.

Bursok bingung apa pelajarannya yang ngaco, atau gurunya yang enggak becus,
atau dirinya yang enggak nangkap gimana itu mendahulukan kepentingan
pribadi atau kepentingan bersama. Bursok jadi mikir-mikir sambil makan popkorn
didepan tivi melihat Madonna melenggok-lenggok dengan bra model barunya.

Bursok ingat di Jakarta, orang seenaknya aja ngerokok di dalam metromini
yang berjejal-jejal kayak ikan asin, yang lain nyampah aja dilantai metromini
sampil nyiprat-nyipratin ludahnya. Kalo Bursok naik biskota, mobil-mobil
pada srobot-srobotan di Jalan Thamrin, macetnya ajubilah. Pasar Bolk M
yang udah kayak tempat sampah gede, dimana-mana orang buang sampah
seenaknya, kalo ada balik tembok yang agak kosong, bau amis minta ampun
soalnya jadi urinoir alam terbuka.

Bursok bener-bener jadi pusing juga, soalnya Bursok udah kadung bangga
sama bangsanya yang dia anggap lebih mendahulukan kepentingan bersama
daripada kepentingan pribadi, berbudi luhur. Tapi kalo orang main srobotan
dijalan apa itu mendahulukan kepentingan pribadi, kalo orang ngeludah
sambil ngerokok di metromini, belum lagi yang nulisin biskota pake spidol,
trus buang sampah seenak udel dimana-mana. Apa itu pernah mikirin
kepentingan bersama atau bagaimana. Itu mah egois banget, kagak mau tau
urusan orang, persetan dengan orang lain, individualis berat.

Padahal di luar negeri ini Bursok enak banget naik biskota, bersih, rapi,
dia merasa kayak naik mobil bosnya yang selalu dicuci bersih tiap pagi sama si
Ujang. Bursok ngeliat orang pada santai naik mobil, biar juga macet tapi
kagak maen srobot. Bursok pikir apa orang Barat lebih gotong royong dari
pada orang-orang di kampungnya. Atau gimana ya, 

Bursok, udah habisin seliter popkorn tapi tetap bingung, jadi aja dia
pindah cannel tivi ke yang lebih hot, soalnya Madonna kagak keliatan lagi.

Ah, ... dasar Bursok.
From: hsiahaan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: What is the problem ?
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:49:16 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Mr Ahmed El-Habbash, replying your posting:

>First of all there was no campaigns against any religions in either of
>the postings. The original posting reflects the understanding of the
>situation of Jesus (pbuh), being dead or alife, by the first writer
>(Tahir Ijaz), and the reply by the second writer (Ahmed El-Habbash)
>reflects his understanding to the same issue. Both writers refer to the
>same sources of the same religion. There was no tension, and both
>articles were highly informative. It is not necessarily that the information
>provided is absolutely correct, but it reflects the understanding and
>the belief of each writer.

This is a weak argument. I think most of us know that Christians believe
that Jesus IS still alive. You might think you did not negatively campaign
against Christians, but would you consider what Christians think/feel ? If 
you break a window and get caught, would it be acceptable to reason:
 'Hey, someone over there throw stones first. I just throw back [the same
  stones] to him...' ?
I think not, don't you ? 
 
>>On contrary, I think he is not. That is why he posted to A.C.I. The only thing
>>that I think motivated him to post his writing here is his stereotyping of all
>>Indonesians are Moslems and (Indonesian) Moslems have small tolerance on (In-
>>donesian) Non-Moslems.

>This is again a strange personal opinion. How did you know all that
>information about me ? The only message that I sent to your group was a
>response to some message which happened to be sent to your group among
>many other groups.  I don't know where you have got all these ideas
>about my motivations to send to sci.

Mr Ahmed, in this case you can blame it on me. I did not (maybe) clarify 
enough who I refered to on that portion. I should have cleared up that I 
was refering to Mr Ijaz, the original poster. So, I apologize for this mis-
understanding.

HSIAHAAN
NB. 
   -I hope you are not discouraged to involve in this newsgroup because of
    emails that you received. 
   - I have personally sent replies to Mr Ijaz. But so far he did not answer
    [or does he really exist ?]	
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: vinch@iastate.edu (Vinata)
Subject: Re: cer-sil ( was: Re: No Subject)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:44:08 GMT

In <C1E7q8.3o3@news.iastate.edu> wity@iastate.edu (Senopati Pamungkas) writes:

>In article <C1DBCB.Bs5@ccu.umanitoba.ca> rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo) writes:
>>
>>Hmmm. What does Bu Pun Soe (spell ?) mean ? If I remember correctly he's
>>"sakti". Siapa saja muridnya dia ya ??
>>
>>- Budi Rahardjo

>Kalau tidak salah, Pendekar Bodoh adalah salah satu murid dari Bu Pun Su.
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Dan Bu Pun Su artinya "orang yang tidak berilmu". Pendekar Bodoh Cia Cin Hai
menjadi murid Bu Pun Su menjelang kematian Bu Pun Su di Gua Tengkorak.

I'd would love if someone start a discussion on Bu Kek Siansu series!


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From: okidz@ccs.northeastern.edu (Oki D Zakaria)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: Udahan donk !
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:30:21 GMT
Distribution: alt.culture.indonesia
Organization: Northeastern University, CCS Dept.

In article <1993Jan22.202858.9471@cs.cornell.edu> donsw@cs.cornell.edu (Donald Wihardja) writes:
>
>Tapi, mas, kalau kita nggak nanggapi segala diskusi yang bisa jadi ramai,
>nanti newsgroupnya sepi. Saya sendiri cuma punya sedikit waktu untuk baca
>dan post ke newsgroup ini, jadi kalau ada topik yang lebih enak, saya 
>pasti akan berhenti ngomong yang enggak enggak. Tapi, kalau nggak ada topik
>yang lain, yaah, terpaksalah. 
>
Iya, mendingan ngomong ngalor-ngidul daripada sepi, minimal belajar
mengungkapkan ekspresi.

>Topik agama ini juga nggak terlalu ribut, lho. Setidak-tidaknya kita nggak 
>adu teriakan kayak masalah Timor. 
>
Masalah Timor membuat pegas kunci 'j' di keyboard saya rada lemes.
(Habis, para pensiunan penjajah itu niatnya cuma menjelek-jelekan
Indonesia, dengan harapan bangsanya sendiri bisa kelihatan lebih baik).

[...]
>
>Donald
>
>-- 
>CS Department, Cornell University
>Ithaca, New York.

Oki
okidz@ccs.northeastern.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: umrufiad@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Rifa Rufiadi)
Subject: Re: What is the porblem ?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:28:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.145903.46603@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> hsiahaan@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>
>Mr Bill Alves writes:
>
>>>I think you are
>>>not familiar with the situation in Indonesia regarding religion aside from 
>>>the fact that 80% of Indonesia is technically Muslim.
>
>>I think the poster was familiar with this fact, which is why he thought that
>>this would be an appropriate newsgroup.
>
>On contrary, I think he is not. That is why he posted to A.C.I. The only thing
>that I think motivated him to post his writing here is his stereotyping of all
>Indonesians are Moslems and (Indonesian) Moslems have small tolerance on (In-
>donesian) Non-Moslems.
>
I think he (Ahmed) was only replaying the first poster (Izaj ?). Since the
first one came to this net, so he replayed to this net too. That is
normal. For me, an Indonesian muslim, his replay was useful since I got
headache from the first poster (headache maker ?).
It will be clear if Ahmed himself explain about it, but I don't thing he
will do that because ... kapok ?

 .........
>HSIAHAAN

Rifa
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: utama@ee.tamu.edu (Peter Utama)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: cer-sil ( was: Re: No Subject)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:05:44 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ee.tamu.edu

In article <vinch.727940648@vincent1.iastate.edu> vinch@iastate.edu (Vinata) writes:
>
>Dan Bu Pun Su artinya "orang yang tidak berilmu". Pendekar Bodoh Cia Cin Hai
>menjadi murid Bu Pun Su menjelang kematian Bu Pun Su di Gua Tengkorak.
>
>I'd would love if someone start a discussion on Bu Kek Siansu series!

BuKekSiansu, Suling Emas, Mutiara Hitam, ?, Pendekar Super Sakti, Kisah
Para Pendekar Pulau Es, ?, Suling Emas dan Naga Siluman, Pendekar Gurun Pasir,
Asmara Berdarah, Antara Dendam Dan Cinta Kasih, Pendekar Sadis, wah cuma
itu yang saya ingat dari seri BuKekSiansu

buku2 KPH lain yang saya ingat: Pedang Kayu Harum, Pendekar bodoh,
Ang I Niocu, wah ingatan saya sudah banyak berkurang, maklum sudah 8 tahun 
yg lalu saya terkhir membaca buku2 KPH.
>
>
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: bowo@dutetve.tudelft.nl (bowo)
Subject: Re: SEPIIIII......
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:22:32 GMT

>  "..bangsa Indonesia itu "agak" serius. Mereka bahkan menyanyikan "ketidak-
>     adilan" di lagu-lagu ".
   Setuju, bisa juga di puisi.

>  2. Kurangnya spontanitas. Karena keseriusan, lalu takut kalau postingnya
>     tidak serius maka akan dianggap "tidak pintar" dan nanti akan
>     'di gebuki rame-rame".
     Kurangnya spontanitas bisa disebabkan karena Culture Indonesia yang 
     sangat menghargai pendapat "Bapak" atau orang tua sehingga kadang-kadang
     kita tidak bisa berterus terang tentang pendapat kita.

> Kesimpulan dari semuanya untuk meramaikan aci adalah : Kebalikan dari yang 
>  diatas
>     
>  1. Kurangi keseriusan, posting "nyendul" lebih banyak.  (?)
   Seperti contohnya dengan bercerita tentang tempat kelahiran kita.
   Saya sendiri belum pernah di luar jawa, jadi kalau ada informasi tentang
   itu sangat menarik sekali.

>  2. Lebih spontan : kelakuan dahulu, mikir belakangan  (?)
   Maksudnya ???      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   
>  3. Cetuskan sesuatu ynag menimbulkan "flames"   (?) ( di aci saja, jangan
>     di Indonesia, please ).
   Saya setuju berdiskusi yang "flames" selama diskusi itu tetap menggunakan
   argumentasi yang benar, asal jangan "flames" yang saudara maksudkan
   adalah sesuatu yang dikarenakan artikel yang kurang serius dan merugikan
   orang lain.


BTW. Bagi orang Tegal, contact me please ????

bowo
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: nhg0452@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (F.X. Nursalim Hadi)
Subject: Re: cer-sil ( was: Re: No Subject)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:20:42 GMT

aries@dutetvc.tudelft.nl (Aries Hackerman) writes:

>   Terus terang aja, saya nggak jelas dengan asal-usulnya cer-sil.
>   Apakah cer-sil nya Kho Ping Hoo itu didasari legenda dari daratan
>   Cina atau didasari karyanya Chin Yung (?)

Karya Kho Ping Hoo, setahu saya, semuanya karya asli, dihubung-hubungkan
dengan peristiwa di negeri Cina pada jaman dulu,
karya-karya Gan K L, Gan K H, OPA, dll sebagian besar menyadur
dari karya-karya Chin Yung, Khu Lung, dlsb.
Setiap pengarang punya ciri khas karangan, kalau Gan K.L. seringkali
cerita detektif (pendekar harum, pendekar empat alis, Pena wasiat,
Pendekar negeri Tayli, dll. semuanya pernah divideokan), 'asmaraman
Kho Ping Hoo" cerita asmara, namanya saja 'asmara-man'.
KPH tidak hanya menulis cerita silat dengan latar belakang
negeri Cina, tapi dia juga menulis
cer-sil Jawa, misalnya Sandhyakalaning Majapahit, dan seri-nya (lupa
namanya), saingan dengan Mintarja, dll.

Perpustakaan Asia di UIUC juga menyimpan karya-karyaa KPH, Gan K.L,
GKH, dll. Saya habis 1 summer (dulu) membaca-baca sekitar 30 judul
yang belum pernah saya baca di Indonesia. Kalikan saja 30 judul
dengan rata-rata 10 jilid... Mana kuno banget tulisannya, kecil-kecil,
membaca 1 jilid buku itu == membaca 4 jilid buku baru.

>   Soalnya berdasarkan adanya video-serinya ( sintiauwhiaplu misalnya )
>   saya agak "tulalit" nih nyari titik temunya, antara karya KPH dengan
>   para sutradara di Hongkong sana ....

KPH tidak menyadur Sin Tiaw Hiap Lu atau Sin Tiaw Thian Lam
Saya rasa edisi pertamanya dibuat oleh Gan K.H. bener ngga Sdr. Peter ?

>   thanks in advance..

You're welcome

>   Salam,
>   Aries
>    

Nursalim Hadi

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From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Subject: Re: No Subject
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:09:05 GMT

In <1jmonrINNfr1@tamsun.tamu.edu> utama@ee.tamu.edu (Peter Utama) writes:

...
>Hm... I remember reading all kind of this 'I' stuff in many of
>Asmaraman Kho Ping Hoo books when I was in SMP...

>BTW, are there any 'cerita silat' lovers out there in the usenet?

Ya. Saya suka sekali tulisan Kho Ping Hoo. Hampir semua cerita silatnya saya
baca (waktu SMP/SMA) berulang kali..., termasuk satu novelnya (lupa judulnya).
Romantis banget ceritanya he he he ...

Boleh kasih tahu judul buku2nya yang anda bawa ?

-- budi
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