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From: cobra@chopin.udel.edu (KING COBRA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Radio Frequency
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:46:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxM6p0.E8w
Organization: University of Delaware


Can some please post or email me the radio frequency for the upcoming
Indian matches?

Thanks.

COBRA





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From: pieter@ford.ee.up.ac.za
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: South African cricket: 6/11, tea time
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:49:56 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

After lunch Prabhakar struck twice with consecutive deliveries, having
first Koen c. More for 49, then Rindel c. More 0. The President's XI
were 89/4, but since then Cronje and Stewart, the former confidently
and the latter riding his luck, have pushed the score along to 175/4
(Cronje 69, Stewart 33).

The match between Natal and Border is turning into a struggle of the West
Indians -- Marshall reduced Border to 110/8 or thereabouts. Then Otis
Gibson got into the act, clouting 6 sixes and 5 fours in 73 not out
as Border reached 199. Since then Gibson has also taken three wickets, as
Natal have struggled to 55/3,

Eastern Province are around 160/6 against Free State; things would have
been much worse but for some terrible catching (Rushmere dropped thrice ...)

Western Province are beating up on Transvaal in a big way; latest score
205/2 with G. Kirsten 100 not out, Lamb 85 not out.

Latest from Pretoria -- Cronje out for 73, President's XI are 189/5
From: rajagopa@charlie.ece.scarolina.edu (Sundararaman Rajagopal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: (none)
Date: 9 Nov 1992 19:26:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi everyone!

With the first test of the series just a few days from now I thought it was
appropriate to discuss who will make it to the final eleven of the Indian
team.With most of the players picking themselves, according to me there is just
one place in the team that should be debatable.

And that is whether an extra batsman is to be played or to stick with the same
composition that played against Zimbabwe.Looking at past records it is only
prudent to go with the former option.Indian team has always done badly in the
first test match of a series after which we have come back strongly in the rest
of the test matches.Infact under Azhar's captaincy there is a 100% record of
India losing its first test except for the one test match against Zim.

Going with the first option the man to be left out is definitely Raju who had
a real bad test against Zim.Also the faster tracks in SA,would tend to help
Kumble better than Raju if we are going in with a spinner.I also think we shouldgo in with a specialist spinner rather than 4 pacers since if 3 of them cant do the job then it is unlikely that the fourth one is going to do it.

Raman should be retained although it was not by any means a great performance
against Zim.Shastri is our best opener after Sunny retired.It is infact true
that Shastri's performance as an opener has been remarkable.He has scored 
atleast 4 centuries since then and everyone of them as an opener.Add to that
the matchwinning 89 against sriLanka in India.Remember all the 4 tons came in
foriegn soil - 1 against WI,2 in England and a double century in Australia.
Hence it is tough to drop him although he is not in the best of nicks.

That leaves us with either Jadeja or Amre.I would say Amre since he is a test
match player and has played well in the limited chances he has got.Also Jadeja
primarily being an opener will not fit into the middleorder.Also it is not
advisable at this stage to keep changing his order in the batting lineup.

Hence my team would be:

Shastri
Raman
Manjrekar
Tendulkar
Azhar
Amre
Kapil Dev
Prabhakar
More
Srinath
Kumble

Discussions welcome!

Raj.
From: sagrawal@cajal.usc.edu (Sanjay Agrawal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: ZIM vs NZ (2nd test)
Date: 7 Nov 1992 09:01:15 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cajal.usc.edu

New Zealand won the toss and elected to bat. Before bad light stopped play
shortly before the scheduled close of play, they were 313 for 6. Greatbach
scored 55, Martin Crowe hit 140 (in 120 odd balls) and Rutherford was still 
there on 72.

Sanjay Agrawal
Oracle Corporation
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: arun@infonode.ingr.com (Arun Madhwesh)
Subject: Re: In the defense (was Re: Vinod Kambli
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:56:46 GMT

In article <009637EE.20045F60@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>In article <karnik.721513066@atto>, karnik@atto.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:
>
>       <a lot of stuff about which I have no dispute, deleted>
       <a lot of stuff about which I have may no dispute, deleted>
>
>I guess Sadiq meant if anybody had looked at that comment *immediately after
>the aussie tour*, then they would have wondered about Viv's judgment ........
>Manjrekar did not exactly cover himself with glory on the tour. But I am not
>trigger happy, I am all for giving a talented man more chances. I was terribly
>disappointed when Sandeep Patil was dropped. There, was a man of undoubted
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>talent, wasted, partly by himself and more so by the system. He is really a 
>laid-back character, and did not try hard enough. 
>

It is surprising that dropping SPatil is/was being seen as 
grave injustice to blossomming talent and cricket values
in general! IMHO, he was given enough oppurtunities
to display his stuff but was generally very inconsistant.
There are probably many players who have been dropped and
vanished into oblivion after a couple of good/great seasons.
So, why keep harping on SP? Again, IMHO, he was in a time
when Indian team as a whole was coming together as a force,
maybe his and teams fortunes were mutully beneficial, but
I can't understand when a person who has been given good
amt of chances is finally dropped... Maybe statistics can
make the picture clear..

Another point: Anybody remember third test against Pak
led by ZAbbas at Kanpur? SPatil was recalled few hrs
before start of the test as the saviour of Indian team.
He was supposed to give the cutting edge to Indian offense
but failed. Somebody, who was in decent form or had a
good series was dropped to make room for him. I think
it was RBinny.

Oh well..

Arun
>>
>>>	Sadiq [ lead soldier - Bombay Bombing Brigade :-) ] Yusuf
>>
>>	Neeran [another Bombay bomber :-)] Karnik
>
>        Murali [from Bangalore, but cricket first] Iyer :--)
From: bsridhar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Sridhar B)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Scratching the ball
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:16:26 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo
Originator: bsridhar@mordred.eng.buffalo.edu


In article <1992Nov5.113444.1@economics.adelaide.edu.au>, ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au writes:
>
>Yep, the man was Murray Bennett, the NSW left arm orthodox spinner who
>partnered Holland to spin out the Windies. Bennett is now the assistant coach
>to Steve Rixon of the NSW state team.
>
>--
>Daniel.

Wasn't he the one who wore dark (sun)glasses while playing?

Sridhar
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Trivia for the Weekend
Date: 6 Nov 1992 19:36:45 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

Hi guys ,
It's friday afternoon and a little bit boring
So I thought I could post some trivia reagrding
Cricket.

1. When did India win it's first test , where
and against whom?

2. Who was the first person to retire hurt in
a test match?

3. Who is the only cricketer in the world to
score century in both innings of  a test match
thrice? What are these instances?

4. Who was the first Indian Batsman who scored
another century after a century in his debut.?

5. How many Indian bowlers have taken a hat-trick
in Test Cricket? and in One-dayers?

O.K. guys see ya on Monday.

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       *	N.Ramasubramanian      *    	    
       * 	                       *    
       *	Dept. of Mech. Engg.   *    
       *	Marquette University   *    
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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: NZ v Zim T2 D2 - post lunch session
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:22:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.BxGD98.Hx6
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network




     At lunch Zim are 9 for 1 having dismissed New Zealand for 335. NZ lost its
last four wickets this morning for 21 runs. In fact they lost their last seven
wickets for 36 runs. In Zimbabwe's innings Grant Flower was lbw to S'oua for 5.
Arnott and Campbell are batting. For NZ Rutherford scored 72 and was caught by
Andy Flower off Tricos.

    The latest score is:  Zim 133 for 2 with Arnott at 67 and Pycroft at 7.
Campbell was caught by S'oua off Patel for 51.

K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
North Dakota State University
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: 1st Test - Some Observations
Date: 13 Nov 1992 19:58:55 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

Hi there
Now that the test is well underway I want to thnak
all those who are making timely postings . Guys,
keep it up. Also the selectors seem to
be thinking on the lines of some of the nettors.
I think Azza has lost too many first matches now 
that he has decided to take 6 batsmen and 4
bowlers. But I think so far Shastri has not done too
badly as a 5th stop gap bowler. He has taken 2 
wickets to boot. But now comes the real danger part.
They have to quickly wipe off the tail and as in the 
past innumerable instances let it wag on. IMO it would 
bee good to start the bowling with Srinath and Kumble 

to remove the tail and not with Kaps and Manoj . 
Hope for an interesting test.

P.S. Isn't it funny that a lot people in tjhe survey
agree with the choice of Ravi Shastri as V.C. (about 70%0
but he also tops as the person most unfit to tour
according to the people who were surveyed.

Kapil Dev 
26 and counting down.



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       *	N.Ramasubramanian      *    	    
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From: ckhan@bbn.com (Chico Kahn (Room # 20/317 B))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Faud Bacchus and other Guyanese openers...
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:51:23 GMT
Reply-To: ckhan@BBN.COM (Chico Kahn (Room # 20/317 B))
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <gevojpa00iV1E90lIz@andrew.cmu.edu> bh26+@andrew.cmu.edu (Badruddin Hilal) writes:
>The matches dated back to the early 1980's. The West Indies used to have
>an extremely talented and aggressive middle order batsman called Faud
>Bacchus. I don't exactly know what happened to him and sure would like

Just an addendum to the Faoud Bacchus history...
He later moved to Canada and for a while was the captain of the Canadian
National team.  Last rumour I heard, he is currently living in Orlando,
Florida.

In spite of a mammoth 250 run inning against India at Kanpur, his Test average
from ~24 Test innings was in the mid 20's.  While a successful batsman for
Guyana, he only made the West Indies team during the Packer years when most
of the regular WI batsmen were playing World Series cricket.  After the 
return of the Packer players, he was retained on the strength of one big
inning but was soon replaced.

As an interesting aside, while we are on the subject of Guyanese opening
batsmen who played for the West Indies (well, sort of on the subject :-))
a more interesting player was Leonard Baichan who played for the club team
in the area where I lived (Rose Hall).  He was unfortunate to be trying to
cement his place on the team at the same time that Gordon Greenidge came
into the side, and, in spite of a 46+ run Test average (admittedly after only
4(?) test matches), was dropped to make room for Greenidge.

Since Roy Fredericks, the WI have never had a full time opening batsman
from Guyana despite some good prospects in Baichan, Sudesh Dhaniram (who
mysteriously lost his form after a brilliant start) and the unfortunate
Clayton Lambert (still the BEST opening batsman in the West Indies today).
Their most exciting new prospect is Paul Persaud, still only nineteen, who
had the misfortune to be run out in each inning of his debut first class 
match, both times by Clayton Lambert and, on the second occasion, without
having faced a ball!

Chico.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: jma@phoenix.oulu.fi (Jacob Matthan)
Subject: The WEEK Gallup Results
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:59:32 GMT


THE WEEK MODE OPINION POLL

Dear Netters,

I was inundated with replies to give the results of the gallups 
conducted by The WEEK just before the Indian Team left for SA. 
Never realised that so many of you were keen on such stuff. So 
here goes.

Captaincy

Cricket Lovers
Kapil 60 %
Azha 34%
Shastri 3%

Cricketers
Kapil 35%
Azha 47%
Shastri 15%

Captaincy Rating

Cricket Lovers
Kapil
Gavaskar
Pataudi
Azha
Bedi
Wadekar
Shastri

Cricketers
Gavaskar
Kapil
Pataudi
Azha
Bedi/Wadekar
Shastri

Openers

Cricket Lovers
Srikanth 81%
Siddhu 75%
Jadeja 53%
Raman 37%
Shastri 37%

Cricketers
Jadeja 68%
Shastri 65%
Siddhu 63%
Srikanth 51%
Raman 44%

The Batting Nucleus

Cricket Lovers
Tendulkar 97%
Azha 89%
Manjrekar 88%
Kambli 44%
Amre 37%

Cricketers
Tendulkar 99%
Manjrekar 93%
Azha 92%
Amre 52%
Kambli 31%

The Bowling Spearhead

Cricket Lovers
Kapil 98%
Prabhkar 97%
Srinath 70%
Chetan 42%
Banerji 42%

Cricketers
Kapil 100%
Prabhakar 99%
Srinath 91%
Chetan 30%
Banerji 19%

The Spinners

Cricket Lovers
Maninder 61%
Raju 58%
Shastri 25%
Ayub 12%

Cricketers
Maninder 74%
Raju 72%
Ayub 17%
Shastri 9%

The Keepers

Cricket Lovers
More 97%
Pandit 71%
Yadav 13%

Cricketers
More 96%
Pandit 42%
Yadav 38%

The team selected by Gallup (11265 respondents)
Kapil Dev (Captain)
Navjot Siddhu
Krish Srikanth
Ajay Jadeja
Sanjay Manjrekar
Sachin Tendulkar
Mohammed Azharuddin
Praveen Amre
Manoj Prabhkar
Javagal Srinath
Chetan Sharma
Maninder Singh
Venkatapathy Raju
Kiran More
Chandrakant Pandit

The team selected by the Board of Control for Cricket in India
Mohammed Azharuddin (Captain)
Ravi Shastri (Vice Captain)
Woorkeri Raman
Ajay Jadeja
Sanjay Manjrekar
Sachin Tendulkar
Praveen Amre
Kapil Dev
Manoj Prabhakar
Javagal Srinath
Chetan Sharma
Subroto Banerji
Venkatapathy Raju
Anil Kumble
Kiran More
Vijay Yadav

Enjoy
Regards
J. Matthan
Oulu, Finland
From: s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: England A tour of Australia 1993
Date: 8 Nov 92 09:19:55 GMT
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia

Heres the England A tour of Australia schedule for anyone interested.

Jan 31    NSW XI           Bowral
Feb 1-3   ACT              Manuka*
    7     Tasmania         Launceston
    8-10  Tasmania         Launceston*
    13-16 Cricket Acanemy  Melbourne
    19-22 Queensland       Caloundra
    26-29 South Aust.      Adelaide
Mar 4-7   NSW              Sydney
    10    North. Territory Alice Springs
    12    West Aust. XI    Perth D/N
    14-17 West Aust. XI    Perth

* - extended hours (7 hours of play instead of 6)

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|  Mark Smith.                       |
|  <s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au> |
|  Churchill, Victoria, Australia.   |
|  Monash Uni Gippsland Computing    |
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov (Pradip R. Shah)
Subject: Indian Cricket Commentators
Reply-To: nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: G.E. Government Services
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:52:49 GMT

I have been here in the USA for more than twelve years.  While in India - till '79- I
remember that All India Radio favorite commentators were Anant Setalvad, Suresh Suraiya, Baloo Al...., Pearson Surita, Anant Rao and others, and of course, the
expert comments being given by Vijay Merchant, Bapu Nadkarni, Lala Amarnath,
Pataudi etc.

Can someone tell us who are the commentators (ball to ball) and expert
commentators these days on the AIR ?  Also, comment on their quality.  Thanks.

Pradip Shah GE
From: jackson@cc.und.ac.za (Clive Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Indian tour of South Africa
Date: 11 Nov 92 06:35:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.jackson.24.721463726
Organization: University Of Natal (Durban)
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc31.cc.und.ac.za

In article <92302.151121RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>Path: shrike.und.ac.za!psgrain!ogicse!uwm.edu!linac!unixhub!slacvm!raja
>From: RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
>Subject: Indian tour of South Africa
>Message-ID: <92302.151121RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
>Date: 28 Oct 92 23:11:21 GMT
>Article-I.D.: SLACVM.92302.151121RAJA
>Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
>Lines: 6
>I am curious as to what the reception of the Indian team in S.A. is? Do they,af
>ter all they are "colored", experience any racial discrimination? Will some kin
>d cricket enthusiast from S.A. contribute. I am not looking for controversy
>but information. Just curious as this is SOMETHING NEW for cricket!
>
>rajagopalan

Hi,

As far as I can make out the reception has been pretty good. No controversy 
thus far and no demos by any leftwing organisations such as the ANC and PAC 
nor on the other hand by rightwingers such as the AWB. I think our 
political situation, here in Natal in particular is becoming far more 
serious in that Sport is now a minor issue compared to the potential 
escalation of violence between ANC and Inkatha supporters.


The firsty historical match begins in Durban this weekend and should pull a 
capacity crowd. I think that there'll be good support for the Indian team 
as a large proportion Durban's population is of Indian extraction.

The South African team has been chosen and there are a number of surprises.
Jonty Rhodes, the Natal captain has made the team. A surprise as he was 
considered to be more of a one day player. Also Craig Matthews has lost 
his place as bowler to Brett Schultz who took 5 of the Indian wickets in 
the President's XI game.

The full SA team is : Hudson, Cook, Kirsten, Wessels (c), Rhodes, 
McMillan, Donald, Henry, Schultz, Richardson, Pringle.

Clive  Jackson
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Subject: Re: WI beats WA, Zim v NZ D4 close of play
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:19:04 GMT

In article <Bx7FIt.KA1@ns1.nodak.edu>, ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:
|> Updated at 18:15 GMT (1:15pm EST) 4 Nov
|> 
|> NZ v Zim Test 1 D4
|> 
|> Zimbabwe are all out for 219 in reply to NZ total of 325 for 3 dec. They were
|> 64 for 5 at one stage and a 70 run partnership between Hoyghton and Andy Flower
|> save them from follow on. Houghton scored 36 and Flower 81. Deepak Patel has
|> the figures of 6 for 113 off 40.4 overs. S'ua had 2 for 19 off 9 overs.
|> 
|> NZ are 163 for 1 at the close of play. Latham and Greatbatch had a century
|> opening stand before Latham was out for 48. Greatbatch with 80 and Andrew Jones
|> with 31 are at the crease.

	This is a good case for saying averages are meaningless.
	NZ are boosting theirs ridiculously against a very ordinary Zimbabwe	
	bowling side, while England's batsman have just faced Pakistan,
	and Aust have the Windies....

	Of course these things even out in some respects, but
	not perhaps completely?

	tom

|> 
|> K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail ksrao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
|> 
|> Department of Electrical Engineering
|> North Dakota State University
|> Fargo, ND 58105  USA
|> 
|> Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
|>         (701)235-9912  (h)
From: KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Zim v NZ T2 D4 post lunch
Date: 11 Nov 1992 06:22:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

NZ v Zim D4 post lunch
  
      Zimbabwe lost three more wickets before lunch and Houghton declared their
first innings twenty minutes before lunch, with 45 runs behind. It makes Zim
295 for 9 declared. S'oua had six wickets. His figures were 5 for 76 when
bagged his fifth wicket.

      NZ are 21 for 1 when Latham was out for 10. Greatbatch is the other
opener with 9.
From: nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov (Pradip R. Shah)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: CRICKET COMMENTARY
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:27:31 GMT
Reply-To: nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: G.E. Government Services

Does anyone know the band and frequency at which the running commentary from
South Africa on the Test matches can be heard here in the USA ?  The timings will
also be appreciated.   Thanks.


Pradip  Shah   General Electric   Houston   USA
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From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: Srikkanth
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 22:05:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.165130.8193@tamsun.tamu.edu> svb0224@venus.tamu.edu (BALIJEPALLI, SRIDHARREDDY V) writes:
>Hello friends,
>
>I have a question and thought someone on the net might be able to answer
>it. 
>
>In the 1983 world cup finals at Lord's, Srikkanth was the highset scorer
>in the match with 38. My question is : Did he hit a six in that innings?
>A friend of mine says he did and I say he didn't. Can some one tell me
>who's right and who's wrong?
>
>Thanks a lot.
>
>Sridhar ( looking forword to some classy knocks by Azhar in S.A.).
>
>
>

Yes. He did hit a six of Andy Roberts. It was an interesting six.

Cheers,

V R Kumar

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From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Subject: Re: NZ v Zim - Lack of Play
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:02:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.231807.22108@dmpe.csiro.au>, mohan@theta.mel.dms.CSIRO.AU (Mohan Krishnamoorthy) writes:
>
>                       <text deleted>
>
> NZ is no saint in this regard.  So, why pretend being one -- for the sake of 
> the game...

S'funny, you know, that's precisely what went through my mind when I first
heard this senseless whining. Much as I admire the efforts of Crowe and Lees to
play attractive cricket it should not be forgotten that in times not too long
gone we played some pretty "ordinary" cricket in order to avoid defeat.

Alan