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From: PHYGONS@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Passing variable length strings from Pascal to Fortran
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:01:33 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo

How does one call a vax vms fortran subroutine of the type
      SUBROUTINE SUB (STR)
      CHARACTER *(*) STR
      etc
      END
from a vax vms Pascal program? How should the procedure sub
be declared in Pascal, and what type of variable should be
used in the procedure call so that the Fortran subroutine
gets the correct string length.
 
Thanks for any suggestion.
 
Richard  --  phygons@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992 17:30:43 CET
From: <RHUNTER@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: LAVC help Please!

I asked for some help in a previous posting regards the low levels of
the LAVC protocol over Ethernet. I got exactly one reply, which suggested
turning up the timeouts. Thanks for the suggestion :-)

Is there anyone at all out there who has info regarding timeouts at the
lower levels? I am willing to accept anything, no matter how wild or
apocryphal? Please Please reply!

RHUNTER@ESOC.BITNET
Network Engineer
European Space Agency
DARMSTADT
Germany
#include<std.disclaimer>
From: agnew@gems.vcu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: motif help needed, please
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:12:31 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Virginia

Dear Net-people,
  I have a vaxstation that I wish upon login of a certain account,to come up
with a maximized decterm, and run a login.com automatically logging it onto
a remote note, then upon logoff, go back to the login screen on the console.
I can't see a way around the session manager, plus when I put the decnet
handler com file in the login.com, motif fails to complete the login.  When
i run the com file in the decterm, it works fine.

what gives?  Please e-mail to my account, as i'll be off next week in training.
 Thanks!!!

Jim Agnew
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: raju@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Venkat C. Raju)
Subject: Including message with marker in first column when replying to a MAIL.
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Western Michigan Univ., Kalamazoo, MI.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:50:29 GMT

Hi,

If this is a FAQ please reply directly by mail.

This may sound too simple, but could someone show me how to include 
the senders message with a marker (like > on the UNIX in ELM) in the first 
column, when you are replying to a MAIL. 

-regards,

Venkat Raju
raju@cs.wmich.edu
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: fwrite() in vaxcrtl broken?
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:21:15 GMT
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct12.180424.10811@panix.com>, jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson)
writes:
>I'm experiencing this REALLY weird problem with fwrite() to stdout.
>It appears to work fine when I run the program, but if I spawn/nowait/out
>the program, it sticks a newline/cr/whatever in there!

What's happening is that the file you're outputting to is being created with a
record format of VFC, 2 byte header, and record attributes of Print file
carriage control.  The same thing happens if you simply
	$ DEFINE SYS$OUTPUT filename
before running the program (oddly enough, if you DEFINE/USER SYS$OUTPUT
filename, you get a record format of Stream_LF and record attributes of
Carriage return carriage control;  I guess in that case it's actually the C
program that creates the output file).

So fwrite is NOT sticking anything in there, it's an attribute of the file
created for stdout.  In fact, VAX C is not doing anything wrong.  The file is
created by the SPAWN command with those record attributes.]

What you could do is rewrite the main function of your program to check for an
output file name and freopen stdout.  This will create a file with a record
format of Stream_LF, which is what you want.  You can then define the program
as a foreign command:
	$ my_program:==$my_disk:[my_dir]my_program
and then spawn it with a command like:
	$ spawn/nowait my_program >file_name other args
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Subject: Re: Setting Symbols Via C Program
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:00:39 GMT


In article <1992Oct14.170032.20241@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski) writes...
>Strange.  My experience is exactly the opposite.  I find that using a program
>to define logicals and symbols (via LIB$SET_LOGICAL and LIB$SET_SYMBOL) was
>about an order of magnitude faster than doing the same things via DCL.  You
>bypass file I/O and parsing overhead.

You have to have enough logicals and symbols so that the overhead of an image
activation is exceeded by the file I/O and parsing mentioned above.
Defining logicals and symbols do not activate any images.

-Mike
From: murphy@burfle.dco.dec.com (Rick Murphy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Problem with spawn from batch in 5.4-x
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:10:13 GMT
Reply-To: murphy@burfle.dco.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Landover MD


In article <1b4an5INNncc@gap.caltech.edu>, carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.150323.1396@decuac.dec.com>, murphy@burfle.dco.dec.com (Rick Murphy) writes:
>> ... my guess deleted
>>
>'Fraid not.  Under VMS v5.4-2:
>  ... demonstration of my `error' deleted.


OK, Carl, you've forced me to elaborate.  When you SPAWN, several things happen.
DCL symbols, process logicals, etc. all are propagated to the spawned
subprocess. This context is delivered by being sent through a mailbox.
The writing code is written for speed - it writes data to the mailbox without
waiting for it to be read, so it can finish up quickly. 

Depending on how much context gets pushed up to the  subprocess during the SPAWN,
the mailbox can fill. SPAWN depends on resource wait mode to stall the writer
(the SPAWNer process) while it waits for the SPAWNee (the subprocess) to read
the context data.

If you're not able to reproduce this as I described, simply define a few
hundred DCL symbols or process logical names and try again.
	-Rick
(Now, was the original problem the same?? MBFULL isn't a quota exceeded...)

[On VMS V5.5 ---]
$ set proc/priv=(noall, tmpmbx)
$ set proc/noresource
$ spawn show time
%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process MURPHY_1 spawned
%DCL-S-ATTACHED, terminal now attached to process MURPHY_1
%DCL-S-RETURNED, control returned to process Don't Panic
%SYSTEM-W-MBFULL, mailbox is full
$ set proc/resource
$ spawn show time
%DCL-S-SPAWNED, process MURPHY_1 spawned
%DCL-S-ATTACHED, terminal now attached to process MURPHY_1
   9-OCT-1992 14:04:16
%DCL-S-RETURNED, control returned to process Don't Panic

---
Rick Murphy, WA1SPT/4			Washington Open Systems Resource Center
Domain:  murphy@burfle.dco.dec.com -or- murphy@dco.dec.com
Bang:    decwrl!burfle.enet!murphy	"Somewhere between 30 and Death"
Ding:  (301) 918-5883				-bumper sticker.
Disclaimer: This nonsense came from an AI program written in TECO. Ignore it.
From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Callable Notes question.
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:21:40 EDT
Followup-To: vmsnet.misc
Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA

In article <13OCT199203395199@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
> 
> Computer software doesn't do "likely" things.  It does what it's coded to.

What a remarkable insight that is.

> 
> Paul was right, it is gotten from SYS$NODE.  Dick is wrong, it is NOT gotten
> from the SCS (not SCCS) node name via GETSYI.  It is easy to verify this:
> 
> #If you change SYS$NODE and attempt a post to a topic, you STILL get the right
> #node name.
> 
> Oh no, it works for me.  You should try getting CMEXEC privs, and
> changing the logical name in the correct access mode.  You'd be
> amazed how that works much more likely than not.

What in the world makes you think I DIDN'T try this?  Your attitude is a best
condescending and at worst deliberately insulting.  Hope you don't treat your
clients this way, because you'll poison the well for a lot of other good
consultants.

To produce a counter example for your statement:

HULK::USER1:[..CODE1]$ sho log/full sys$node
   "SYS$NODE" [exec,crelog] = "HULK::" [terminal] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)

HULK::USER1:[..CODE1]$ define/system/exec/trans=terminal sys$node foo::
%DCL-I-SUPERSEDE, previous value of SYS$NODE has been superseded
HULK::USER1:[..CODE1]$ sho log/full sys$node
   "SYS$NODE" [exec] = "FOO::" [terminal] (LNM$SYSTEM_TABLE)

after creating a new note in a local notes file:

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Note 3.0                              test                           No replies
HULK::MUNROE                                          2 lines  13-OCT-1992
23:54

    this is a test
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Note that HULK is STILL present in the topic header, clearly indicating that
the translation does NOT come from SYS$NODE.

So, as usual, Ehud shoots his mouth off and gets it wrong.  Clearly something
is going on that neither one of us understands completely.

Now I haven't tried actually creating the logical using the SYS$CRELOG system
service, but that's because I haven't got any documentation old enough to
refresh my memory of the interface.
-- 
Dick Munroe				Internet: munroe@dmc.com
Doyle Munroe Consultants, Inc.		UUCP: ...uunet!thehulk!munroe
267 Cox St.				Office: (508) 568-1618
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GET CONNECTED!!! Send mail to info@dmc.com to find out about DMConnection.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: lionel@quark.enet.dec.com (Steve Lionel)
Subject: Re: Passing variable length strings from Pascal to Fortran
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  8 OCT 92 09:58:54    


In article <BvrML4.73L@acsu.buffalo.edu>, PHYGONS@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes...
>How does one call a vax vms fortran subroutine of the type
>      SUBROUTINE SUB (STR)
>      CHARACTER *(*) STR
>      etc
>      END
>from a vax vms Pascal program? How should the procedure sub
>be declared in Pascal, and what type of variable should be
>used in the procedure call so that the Fortran subroutine
>gets the correct string length.
> 

Use the %STDESCR passing mechanism specifier when you declare the routine's
argument in VAX Pascal.  This causes Pascal to generate a class S descriptor
which Fortran wants.

Steve Lionel                    lionel@quark.enet.dec.com
SDT Languages Group
Digital Equipment Corporation
110 Spit Brook Road
Nashua, NH 03062
From: daniel@hfrd.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: QIO SETMODE VT term to 132 columns
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:44:12 GMT
Organization: High Frequency Radar Division - Defence Science and Technology Organisation

I am attempting to change a VT terminal from 80 to 132 columns using QIO
SETMODE with the page width set to 132, as with the following C code fragment:

   TermChar.PageWidth = PageWidth;

   status = sys$qiow (0, TTchannel, IO$_SETMODE,
                      &IOstatus, 0, 0,
                      &TermChar, sizeof(TermChar), 0, 0, 0, 0);

It changes the page width reported by SHOW TERMINAL alright, but does not move
from 80 to 132 column mode.  DECterm VT emulation does expand the window to 132
but does not change to the smaller font as with a SET TERMINAL.  What
embarrasses me is its probably something so simple!  T/YIA.
From: jjc+@PITT.EDU ("Jeffrey J. Carpenter")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: KERBEROS as replacement for SYSUAF
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:43:36 GMT
Organization: The Internet

One more point which may have been discussed on the list is that TGV
(producers of Multinet) have integrated some sort of Kerberos
implementation into Multinet.  You might want to contact them also.


	jeff

---
Jeffrey James Bryan Carpenter

System and Networks,Computing and Information Srvcs.,University of Pittsburgh
600 Epsilon Drive, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania 15238-2887
jjc+@pitt.edu, jjc@pittvms.bitnet, +1 412 624 6424, FAX +1 412 624 6436
From: music@erich.triumf.ca (FRED W. BACH)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: What is 1,024 Tera?
Date: 16 Oct 1992 14:33 PDT
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <01GPYMV16B1E001QIH@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu>, PKLAMMER@CUDNVR.DENVER.COLORADO.EDU (Pete Klammer CU-Denver 303/233-9485) writes...
>In "Physics for Scientists and Engineers /2e" by Serway, Saunders College
>Publishing, 1986; p7:
> 
>Table 1.4 Some Prefixes for Powers of Ten
>Power	Prefix	Abbreviation
>10^-18	atto	a
>10^-15	femto	f
>10^-12	pico	p
>10^-9	nano	n
>10^-6	micro	u {mu}
>10^-3	milli	m

  Hey, someone forgot a few  (here they are from Webster's):

   10^-2  centi     c     as in centimeter
   10^-1  deci      d     as in deciliter
   10^+1  deca      da    as in decagram
   10^+2  hecto     h     as in hectare     an "are" is 100 sq meters
          (or hect)                         so a hectare is 10000 sq meters



>10^3	kilo	k
>10^6	mega	M
>10^9	giga	G
>10^12	tera	T
>10^15	peta	P
>10^18	exa	E
> 
>May I nominate another:
>2^64	alpha	A
>.... the last, largest address space man may ever need...

   Ha!  If you follow the modern history of computing you will 
   find that the earth and the universe are "computers" in their
   own rights.  How many bits does it take to define that 
   address space when the number of nucleons in the known universe
   is about 10^80 ?    ;-)


> 
>Peter F. Klammer, CCP, ACM, IEEE, HKN, TBP, LPF          Stop software patents,
>(303)233-9485 fax:(303)556-4822            before they stop you!  (Ask me how!)
>11221 West 27th Place                                  PKLAMMER@CUDENVER.bitnet
>Lakewood, Colorado 80215                    pklammer@cudnvr.Denver.Colorado.EDU
> 

   OK, Peter.  How *DO* you stop software patents?   Sounds interesting.

 Fred W. Bach ,    Operations Group        |  Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca
 TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility)    |  Voice:  604-222-1047 loc 278/419
 4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS            |  FAX:    604-222-1074
 University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA   V6T 2A3

 These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.
 They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: ONASCH@IRAV17.ira.uka.de (Bernd Onasch)
Subject: Re: IRC (chat?) program for VMS
Organization: University of Karlsruhe (FRG)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:53:44 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.25
X-Testmessage: %SYS-F-HLT, system halted.

In <1992Oct6.172811.1572@cnsvax.uwec.edu> drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:

# Is there an IRC program for vms?  If so, under what name, 
# and where can I find it.

MAILSERVER FILESERV@irav17.ira.uka.de
           File IRC_173 (use SENDME IRC_173)

At the moment, the place where it is maintained (coombs.anu.edu.au) seems
to be empty. I hope GrayElf resumes working soon.

Bernd Onasch, Informatik Rechnerabteilung [IRA], University of Karlsruhe [FRG]
E-MAIL: <ONASCH@ira.uka.de> or <URANUS@irav17.ira.uka.de> or
        <PSI%45050365300::ONASCH> or <CCC_ONAS@DULRUU51.BITNET>
                        (Rest of signature deleted by an anti-signature virus)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Is there a DEC SAS or SPSS?
From: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp)
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:40:28 -0700
Reply-To: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <1992Oct12.181659.1@sevmsa.cs.msstate.edu>, gowen@sevmsa.cs.msstate.edu writes:
>Does anyone know if DEC has SAS or SPSS?  I need to do some statistical
>analyses, and I would like to use one of these products.  If DEC does make
>either of these software packages, please let me know the products name.
>

SAS is availble for VMS. Contact:

SAS Institute Inc.
SAS Circle
Box 8000
Cary, NC  27512-8000
From: music@erich.triumf.ca (FRED W. BACH)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Help in improving on HELP
Date: 16 Oct 1992 19:02 PDT
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Oct15.094254.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, welchb@woods.ulowell.edu writes...
>>     Perhaps this isn't _quite_ what you had in mind, but the VMS Help library
>> includes one, valuable, often-overlooked entry: "Hints".  The topics are:
>> 
>> 
>>   Batch_and_print_jobs  Command_procedures    Contacting_people
>>   Creating_processes    Developing_programs   Executing_programs
>>   Files_and_directories Logical_names         Operators_in_expressions
>>   Physical_devices      System_management     Terminal_environment
>>   User_environment

   [ lots of stuff deleted ]

> 
>-- 
>Brendan Welch, UMass/Lowell, W1LPG,  welchb@woods.ulowell.edu

   I read the help for light entertainment now and then, sort of in
 the same way other people go off for a smoke (which I DON'T do).
 Having some idea of what's in HELP should be somewhat re-assuring
 to the casual VAX user.

   Generally, there is something everyone can learn (or re-learn) from
 this useful utility.  Many sites have site-specific help that changes
 from time to time (without general announcement) and so it is good to
 have a peek at these now and then, just for fun.  Why wait until some
 crisis comes up?

   What I would like to know from the net is: How do I get the average
 VAX user to get into the habit of using HELP on their own?  It seems
 that whenever they have a question, I can guide them through the help
 but they can't do it on their own.  It's not good to be nasty, but if
 I'm toooo helpful then that's not good either.   Are site VMS seminars
 a common thing at other labs?

   Advice?

   Thanks.  (Better post the answers here since I don't think there
             is a comp.os.vms.users.psychology group .  ;-) )


 Fred W. Bach ,    Operations Group        |  Internet: music@erich.triumf.ca
 TRIUMF (TRI-University Meson Facility)    |  Voice:  604-222-1047 loc 278/419
 4004 WESBROOK MALL, UBC CAMPUS            |  FAX:    604-222-1074
 University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., CANADA   V6T 2A3

 These are my opinions, which should ONLY make you read, think, and question.
 They do NOT necessarily reflect the views of my employer or fellow workers.
From: gezelter@rlgsc.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Maximum number of parameters in a link command
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:50:17 GMT
Organization: Robert Gezelter Software Consultant, Flushing, NY

In article <1992Sep15.104700.25251@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk>, a006700@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Tang Sammy) writes:
> In trying to link a numbers of objs with VMS5.3-1, I get this from
> the DCL : 
> 
> $ link /map=ilpd /full /trace/nodebug/exec=$@ lpd.obj,-
> 	 config.obj,-
> 	 util.obj,-
> 	 cmd.obj,-
> 	 rcvjob.obj,-
> 	 showjob.obj,-
> 	 deljob.obj,-
> 	 sndjbc.obj,-
> 	 getqui.obj,-
> 	 llist.obj,-
> %DCL-W-DEFOVF, too many command procedure parameters - limit to eight
> 	 baseline.obj,-
>  inet.obj, lpd/opt, sys$library:ucx$ipc/lib
> 
> It seems that DCL has a preset limit on the number of parameters in
> a DCL command. If it's true, can I adjust it to fit my need?
> 
> Anybody has any ideas about this and solutions to avoid the error ?
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> rgds
-- 
Mr. Tang,
 
The solution to your problem is two-fold. First, do not put 
spaces between each set of options. Second, either use the 
default input stream (sys$input) or a separate link options file
to include all of the object files. 
 
Following these suggestions, your command would be:
 
$ link/map=ilpd/full/trace/nodebug/exec=$@ sys$input/option
lpd.obj,-
config.obj,-
util.obj,-
cmd.obj,-
rcvjob.obj,-
showjob.obj,-
deljob.obj,-
sndjbc.obj,-
getqui.obj,-
llist.obj,-
baseline.obj,-
inet.obj, lpd/opt, sys$library:ucx$ipc/lib
 
The above should work (I hope that I did not make a typo when 
editing it).
 
I hope that the above is helpful. If I can be of further 
assistance, please feel free to contact me via E-mail.
 
- Bob 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: gleeson@rook.dec.com (Sue Gleeson)
Subject: Re: PrintServer 40 question...
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:47:21 GMT


In article <67123@cup.portal.com>, David_Anthony_Guevara@cup.portal.com writes...
>I humbly request some assistance from the net.  Is there any way
>to change the default page orientation on the PrintServer 40 from
>portrait to landscape mode when printing ascii text files?  I know
>you can do this from the print command line using the /parameters
>switch.  What I would like to do is set up a default form with the
>page orientation set to landscape.  Have any of you done this?  I
>have looked through the documentation we have on the PrintServer 40
>and I cannot find any references to changing the default page 
>orientation on the printer.  Sorry if this is a FAQ.  Please respond
>to me via e-mail.  I will summarize to the net if there is enough
>interest.  Thanks!
> 
>-- David Guevara
>   Internet:  David_Anthony_Guevara@cup.portal.com

It's actually even easier than setting up a form.  If you're running DECprint
Printing Services for VMS, modify the queue definition in CPS$STARTUP.COM
and add a "P4" entry something like this:
	"page_orientation=landscape"

If you're running the old VAX PrintServer Client software, add a definition
similar to the following to the LPS$STARTUP.COM file:
  $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC LPS$PARAMETER_queuename "PAGE_ORIENTATION=LANDSCAPE"

Both of these should be documented in each client's respective Installation or
Management Guide, but feel free to holler if you have trouble setting this up.




Sue Gleeson				gleeson@rook.enet.dec.com
PrintServer Systems Engineering
Digital Equipment Corporation
Westford, MA 


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