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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:19:29 EDT
Reply-To:     "RICH @ 5121" <switzer@KENYON.EDU>
From:         "RICH @ 5121" <switzer@KENYON.EDU>
Subject:      LEWIS
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NODAK.EDU

>Julie Monk Nott <str008@ukcc.uky.edu>
>Univ of KY
>Researching:  Copeland, Engram, Gobson, Leysath, Lewis, Monk, Roark-O'Rourke,
>              Price, Robertson
>

Noticing that Julie is searching LEWIS, reminds me of a book that I am
currently reading.  Here is the citation from the Kenyon College on-line
catalog:

   AUTHOR: Merrill, Boynton, 1925-
    TITLE: Jefferson's nephews : a frontier tragedy

PUBLISHER: Princeton University Press, c1976.

 SUBJECTS: Livingston County (Ky.)--History.   Lewis, Isham, d. 1815?
           Lewis, Lilburn, d. 1812.   Lewis family.   Murder--Kentucky--Livingst


##   ---- Call Number --------  Volume     Material   Location  Status

1    976.9 L58Zm                           BOOK       MAIN      Charge


This book is quite a piece of work for a family history.  The LEWIS' were
in-laws of Thomas Jefferson.  I have learned a good bit about (US) colonial
history, the westward movement, the settling of KY; haven't gotten to the
murder yet, but the book is well worth a read for Root-L types in general and
of course LEWIS or JEFFERSON searchers in particular.  It is well indexed and
has appendices which include genealogical trees.  --AND several instances of
marriages by first, second and double cousins.

-Rich
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Richard L. Switzer	Researching:  Allen (OH), Bird (VA-WV), Black (IN)   +
+ Registrar			      Devine (IN), Dugger (IL, TN),          +
+ KENYON COLLEGE		      Hotsinpiller/Hotzenbella (VA-WV)       +
+ Gambier, OH  43022 		      Lucas (IN)                             +
+ (614) 427-5121 	              Schermerhorn/Shimmer-/Skimer- (IN, KY) +
+ Switzer@Kenyon.edu                  Switzer/Swisher (VA-WV, OH, IL, IN)    +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
From: emsiwek@IASTATE.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: TRANSLATION OF GERMAN EMMIGRATION PAPERS..
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:59:48 GMT
Reply-To: emsiwek@IASTATE.EDU
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There is a book called:
	"If I Can, You Can, Decipher Germanic Records"
	 by Edna M. Bentz, San Diego, CA

I saw this in a local bookstore which carries many genealogy books, etc.
It had common word translations, occupations, hand writing samples, and
some other helpful items.  The bookstore people tell me that they buy the
book directly from Ms. Bentz.  I could get an address if anyone is
interested.

Elizabeth Siwek
emsiwek@iastate.edu
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:43:39 EDT
Reply-To:     "(J.P. Letellier)" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
From:         "(J.P. Letellier)" <jp@WIZARD.NRL.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Leisure
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@vm1.nodak.edu

I was in Annopolis Md looking for something at the Archieves Sat, and
noticed several Leisure births and marriages Baltimore in the
1905-1920 time period.
jp
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: German Location Verification, Please
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 16:36:23 GMT

Schoenling writes:

>"Memoirs of the Miami Valley", published by the
>Robert O. Laws Co. about 1926, listed my G-G-Grandmother
>as being born in:
>                             "Wuertemburg, Dagerschlact"

I would simply use Deutschland as the mysterious spelling.
fred
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W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr   
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: bjm1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Bobbie J. Mann)
Subject: Re: While you have your books out on Jeff Davis
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 07:50:49 GMT

lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln) writes:

>In article <ROOTS-L%92092919440161@VM1.NODAK.EDU> NORMAN%MACALSTR.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU writes:
>>I have a relative by marriage.....
>>
>>My question is: How does Jefferson Davis fit...?


>While you have your Jeff Davis books out.. Who were his children and
>who did they marry?


If I remember correctly, Jeff had a couple of sons and a daughter.  The sons
all died before marriage (one fell off of the Confederate White House at the
age of 4-ish and died), and the daughter never married.  She became the Daughterof the Confederacy, which eventually led to the formation of the UDC (United
Daughters of the Confederacy).  Sorry that I don't remember how many children,
but I'm pretty sure they were the end of his line.

Roland


>One of my mother's throw away remarks -- and I have learned NEVER to
>throw away her throw away remarks! -- was that she is related to
>Jefferson Davis in the same way as she is to Abraham Lincoln...

>Well... I know how she is related to Abraham Lincoln: Her
>g.grandmother's sister's daughter (Mary Harlan) married Abraham
>Lincoln's son (Robert Tod Lincoln).

>The side of the family that I havn't studied yet are the Clarks from
>Tennessee. (James) Monroe Clark (b.1832 probably in TN) was a son of
>William Clark and Nancy Radner of North Carolina. He had a brother
>Thomas (b.1828?) who married Nancy Jane Combs and probably other
>brothers and sisters.... so I am looking for a Clark or possibly a
>Combs or maybe some unknown other who married a child of Jeff Davis...

>..using Lincoln's Law that there is nothing like a well known cousin
>to clarify the family tree...

>Tom
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From: davidson@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Family Bibles: accuracy
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:55:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: ac.1992Oct3.155502.7932
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <ROOTS-L%92100112441331@VM1.NODAK.EDU>, Melodi Rayl <mrayl@STL-07SIMA.ARMY.MIL> writes:
> envy. When I first started looking into my family history, I asked MY
> grandmother if there was a "family Bible". She said that Yes, there was
> one. I got so excited! Then, she went on to say, "But nothing's ever
> been written in it!" She showed it to me. Sure enough, an old, old
> Bible - with all blank pages in the middle!
> 
> Hope others do better than this!
> 

How accurate , generally, is information in Family Bibles?

In my case, the Bible entries were made primarily by my Grandfather. While
he mentioned his mother's maiden name and both his parent's dates of birth
and death, he neglected to mention that his mother remarried (he was ~10 at
the time) and subsequently had another child (his half-brother).

Interestingly, the published genealogy of his step-father's family makes no 
mention of the fact that the buddy's wife was a widow with two children! 

It's like each did not exist to the other side!
The principals are all long dead so it's not something I can ask about.

Anyone have similar experiences?

Jonathan Davidson

DAVIDSON@AC.DAL.CA
Dalhousie University
Halifax, Nova Scotia
Canada
From: Doris.J.Young@bdragon.fidonet.org (Doris J Young)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: My Swiss Research
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:37:42 GMT

Your story was of interest and I'm not doing Swiss research, but really
enjoyed your story.  Good luck and look forward to more interesting
stories and experiences.
Thank you for making my day.
Doris J Young

... Catch the Blue Wave!
 * Origin: The GeneSplicer's BBS, Las Vegas, Nv. (1:209/720.0)
Date: Sunday, 27 Sep 1992 22:21:36 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: i can trace my lineage back to mom and pop.

hi there.  is there an faq list for this newsgroup? if so, could someone
please post it? if not, could someone take a little time to answer some
questions which would probably be in the faq if there were such a beast?
for example:

       how do i begin going about tracing my family tree, knowing
       nothing besides my immediate family?

       what's all this software stuff for geneology? are they merely
       hyped-up databases for you to put your great-great-grandpop's
       name in, or do they actually contain useful info?

i forgot what other questions i was going to ask, or even if i had any more
to ask.  so i guess those two are all.  thank you for your time.
From: z_ofearnask@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: king and wilmeth
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:06:37 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

to Dave Tait

	My father's sister was a King-Dohse and my University has a Business
Law professor named Dr. Nancy Wilmeth.  If you contact me I can give you more
info on either.

	My Aunt Susan's father was a King and she has some pretty confusing
notes, but I can sort them out if you feel the need.
From: exuclh@exu.ericsson.se (Calvin L. Hall, x 6521, s034)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: William Franklin Hall-Kentucky
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:41:03 GMT
Reply-To: exuclh@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.


I am researching the birth and parents of William Franklin Hall.
Reportedly, he was born `near` Bowling Green, Kentucky
in 1864. I have thoroughly researched the 1880 & 1870 census
for Warren County, KY where Bowling Green is situated. Presently,
I am researching the 1880 & 1870 census for Barren County, KY.

William Franklin Hall married Laura Teel of Alabama in Collin County, TX.
in 1887. I have researched the 1870, 1880, & 1900 census for Collin County.
I located William & Laura on the 1900 census for Collin County.

Any suggestions on where else to look `near` Bowling Green, KY. 

One last note: I found a `Halahian` in Warren County census with siblings
that could be his based on the names he gave his children. Any thoughts 
on this. If they did change their name, how can I prove this linkage?

Thanks in advance,

Calvin Hall
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:49:42 EDT
Reply-To:     P.QUINTIN@DGC.CEO.DG.COM
From:         P.QUINTIN@DGC.CEO.DG.COM
Subject:      TO BOB WAY
Comments: To: roots@APEX19.ceo.dg.com

X-Ceo_Options:  Document

CEO comments:
     I couldn't reach you directly, so I am posting this to the list.
Sorry for the inconvenience to other rooters...


CEO document contents:
From: P.QUINTIN@DGC.ceo.dg.com
To: Bob.Way@BDRAGON.FIDONET.ORG
Subject: Reply to:      Re: French names
CEO comments:
From: Quintin, Paul:DGC
Date: ## 10/05/92 08:26 ##
     Hello, Bob;
     It's Paul again.
     I have been looking at Quebec parish records, and that is what  prompted
me to ask the Jean-Baptiste/Joseph question. From other  information that I
have researched, I see the names interchanged  regularly.
     Do the archives you mention supply data on children? If so, I  would be
interested in finding lists of children for the following  marriages:
Joseph Quintin m. Esther Benjamin (9/28/1852 - Iberville, PQ) Paul Quintin   m.
Catherine Frechette (10/2/1808 - Chambly, PQ)
.
And also, if possible, I would like to see if there is a
marriage record, and child data for Archelas Quintin m. Amanda  Hebert, married
about 1880 or so, probably around Iberville. I am not  sure on the spelling of
Archelas, as he was known as Archie, even on  his death certificate. Middle
initial C (probably Claude). I don't  know if that is enough info, but I will
try to give you more. Any  help that you can give is greatly appreciated, and I
will return the  favor for you in North Carolina (Raleigh) if possible.
Thanks!!!!!PQ
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:08:18 -0500
Reply-To:     Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Subject:      Printing Genealogical Information
Comments: To: "(Genealogy Information)" <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Readers:

We all want to make out printing output as nice as possible, and today
I was loaned a new Canon "Bubble Jet Printer" to use on trip to
Washington, DC this coming Sunday.  I will be there another 6 weeks.

The printer is a "BJ-10ex",

weight:      4.0 lbs,
size:        12.25" X 8.25" X 1.875"    (yes less than 2 inches high)
paper size:  A4 / LTR / LGL
fonts:       about 12 different
cost:        I'm not sure

The ink drys in about 5 seconds, and it looks very very nice.

If interested, check you local distributor.

 ( see my disclaimer, I just tell it like it is ! ! ! )

Good luck..  cliff

Cliff Manis         K4ZTF        Manis/Manes Family History
Researching: MANIS MANES WHITEHORN CANTER BIRD FRANCIS NEWMAN
USMAIL:   P. O. Box 33937, San Antonio, Texas  78265-3937
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From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: LifeLines
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 17:15:58 GMT

soren@crsa.bu.edu (Soren Ryherd) writes:

>Charles is right that the most powerful and potentially difficult part
>is mastering the report generation program, but Tom was kind enough to
>send along two sample programs which are great starters.
>Just wanted to add my thanks to Tom for sharing his software!

I will probably ask Tom to send me the code too, but may I ask some of you 
LifeLines users as to what you really find better or not available in other 
DOS based programs? 

I realize that running under UNIX has its advantages. I also presume that most 
people who run UNIX will find the report programming second nature to them, 
but then there are some of us who simply use computers and pretty much ignore
the underlying operating system.  I don't know beans about C code and writing
a report in some kind of scripting language would definitely be a steep
learning curve for me that would require to have significant pay back.  My
time is limited and I'd rather spend it writing letters and doing genealogy
than programming a system.

I'm looking for the reasons that would want me to invest the time to learn
LifeLines.  What will I get if I go thru the learning curve?

I have to be honest here and say that I like BK and that John Steed accepts my 
suggestions for enhancements as he must have done from hundreds of other 
users, BUT HE DOES THE PROGRAMMING.  I don't mind paying him a few bucks every
once in a while to do this for me. Basically, I think BK is the biggest 
bargain around.

Perhaps I'm simply too much of a novice regarding genealogy and don't 
understand the limitations of BK just yet. Can somebody tell me what I'm 
missing or what I may be gaining if I switch?	


fred

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W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr
From: Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Historic Emigration Office, Hamburg
Date: 28 Sep 92 09:13:15 GMT
X-Mailer: mail-news newcastle perl version

I paid a brief visit to Hamburg in Germany last week, and noted something
that might be of general interest to a number of US soc.roots/ROOTS-L
readers. It was in a general leaflet put out by the main Hamburg Tourist
Board:

"HISTORIC EMIGRATION OFFICE, HAMBURG:
If you'd like to know when your ancestors embarked for the 
New World and on what ship the HEO will help you.
......
Historic Emigration Office
Museum fuer Hamburgische Geschichte,
Holstenwall 24
Hamburg
Tel: 40/30 05 1-250
Tues-Sat 10am-1pm and 2-5pm."

I know nothing further about this organization (even whether it is already
well known to those of you with an interest in German-US emigration - in
which case my apologies) but it would appear to have some prominent
official status, given that the leaflet is free of advertising and hardly
mentions any other services or organizations.

Cheers

Brian Randell

Dept. of Computing Science, The University, Newcastle upon Tyne, NE1 7RU,
UK
EMAIL = Brian.Randell@newcastle.ac.uk   PHONE = +44 91 222 7923
FAX = +44 91 222 8232 
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 07:34:09 CST
Reply-To:     Bob Boisvert <rboisver@ENCORE.COM>
From:         Bob Boisvert <rboisver@ENCORE.COM>
Subject:      Request assistance for to send a SASE to CANADA
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

I know.. I know.. We've been over this before but I forgot to write it
down...... I would like to send a request for information to a county
in Ontario, Canada.  How can I send them postage so they don't get stuck
with my postage bill?


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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:36:51 CDT
Reply-To:     Ed Mertes <mertes@STL-07SIMA.ARMY.MIL>
From:         Ed Mertes <mertes@STL-07SIMA.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      Internet/fidonet
Comments: To: roots-l@VM1.NODAK.EDU

>(gee, am new at this internet stuff, am Debbi McKay, The Skeleton Closet BBS,
>1:271/23@FidoNet)

> * Origin: The Skeleton Closet BBS - Virginia Beach, VA - HST/DS (1:271/23)


Debbi,
Nice to see you over here on Roots-l.  Now if you can just think of a way
to add internet to your software hatching system so we would have all the
new stuff available here in one of the archives (Simtel20 or Hall).


Ed



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From: cmackay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Carol MacKay)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: german postage
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 12:54:48 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Can anyone advise me of the current postage rates for an overseas airmail 
letter from Germany (to Canada)?  I have obtained some German stamps for 
SASEs to Germany and need to affix correct postage for genealogical 
correspondence.  Thanks.

Carol MacKay              cmackay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca 
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: Umfeufeln.... HELP puzzling out a German name..
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 17:18:48 GMT

lincoln@IRIS.RAND.ORG (Tom Lincoln) writes:

>In the 1860 Indiana Census I have a Caroline Umfeufeln... or there
>abouts, from Germany (age 25).... Would this be the name? Or are
>there some scrambled letters...

Again, we are guessing here, but there is a rather common name like UMTEUFEL.
The word teufel meaning devil and there are many derivations thereof.

Fred
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Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
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From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: First-cousin marriages
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:02:50 GMT
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <9209290319.AA28252@tso.uc.edu> "(Helmut J. Jungschaffer)" <usr9428a@TSO.UC.EDU> writes:
>Reply to: usr9428a@tso.uc.edu

>The Amish
>do run a greatly increased risk for a variety of diseases when compared to an
>outbread population.

>My paternal grandparents were first cousins, and I certainly would not be the
>one to use Tay-Sachs disease in Ashkenazy Jews or the multitude of genetic
>diseases in the Amish to categorically oppose first-cousin marriages.  After
>all, for most people the situation is different from these highly inbread
>populations.  But I would certainly be wary if there were a number of certain
>diseases running in the family.

Helmut has it just right in his recent posting.

One of the difficulties that we have in a world dominated by new
information is how to place this information in some reasonable context.
Genetic information is merely one case in point.

As a research pathologist I am impressed by how easily we can be
influenced by dramatic (and true) examples like the Amish which richly
illustrate genetic diseases. As we learn more and more in medicine, there
is a risk around every corner... what should one do? where does it fit?

The Amish are a good example because rational decisionmaking would say
one thing and cultural decisionmaking may say something else. The
same kind of issues arise with prenatal genetic testing and questions
of the termination of pregnancy. Our capabilities and our knowledge pose
the dilemma. Not all cultural convictions are "scientific".

There is a whole new concern that arises from the convergence of
individuals with the same genetic handicaps through specialized clinics,
self-help groups and the like. A common fate and a close association
attract people to each other... but their children in common could have
tragic  consequences. What about modest examples like genetic deafness?

This is not posted to prolong a debate, which, while relevant, could
lead us far astray, but rather to point out how deeply genealogy
touches on the roots of our beliefs.

 p q
 \|/
 /|\   TOM LINCOLN  lincoln@rand.org
 \|/  "Life is short, art is long, opportunity fugitive,
 /|\   experimenting dangerous, reasoning difficult."

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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 09:42:37 EDT
Reply-To:     "(Dick and Jill Miller)" <dmiller@IM.LCS.MIT.EDU>
From:         "(Dick and Jill Miller)" <dmiller@IM.LCS.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      Re:Marriage of cousins
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Going along with the cousin thread... (I have been reading a bunch of roots
postings that piled up while I was deep in a project for a client.)

First-cousin marriages were very common in some ethnic groups.  My
husband's family is Russina-Jewish and cohanes, too.  Back in the old
country an IDEAL(!) marriage was between an man and his niece or between
first cousins.  There was a feeling that the special bloodline
(cohanes/priests of the temple) should not be diluted.  Anyway, his family
tree looks more like a braid!  There are more than four such marriages
between 1850 and 1920.

[We always wondered why there were so many strange people in the family :')]
Actually, there are very many intelligent and no more insanity or inherited
illness than one might expect from a random sampling of the population, but
there are some strange attitudes...

--Jill

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