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From: maryd@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (M.Dugan)
Subject: Re: The Pile-Up Begins :-)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:28:23 GMT

marie@ai.mit.edu (Marie Lamb) writes:

>small to be useful.  I'm beginning to see the appeal of a nice, big
>sewing basket.  What do you like/dislike about sewing baskets?

Rather than a sewing basket, I bought a Caboodle... best idea I had
all year!  I got a medium size with swing-out sections, but they
come in a lot of sizes & shapes that would be perfect for a sewer.

Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: psburns@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MAUREEN BURNS)
Subject: I got a serger for Christmas!!!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 28 Dec 1992 09:01 EST  


The subject line says it all.  My boyfriend (the most wonderful man on the 
planet) bought me a serger which I completely totally did not expected.  
I mentioned about 5 months ago that I wanted to get one, and I was certain that he 
didn't even know what they are.  Well, unbeknownst to me, he proceeded to 
create a research project out of learning about sergers in order to get a 
good one for me.  And knowing him, he got the best price because since he's 
a sales rep himself, I am sure he really trounced his counterpart at the 
sewing machine shop!

Of course, I was sort of expecting a ring.  After 2.5 years, you can't help 
but expect it.  But a serger is fabulous!  I love it!  I really do!  I 
can't wait to try it.  

I just need to find a way to wear in on my finger!!!

JUST KIDDING!!! NO FLAMAGE!!!

Maureen
From: stepan@natinst.com (Stepan Riha)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Ballgown advice from rec.arts.dance
Date: 21 Dec 1992 09:28:45 -0600
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.natinst.com

I ordered the LJR Catalogue (mentioned in the grand-parent article :-) and it
consists of Men's Latin and Women's Latin and Smooth costumes.  The designs
are quite nice IMO.  The women's smooth costumes consist of a stretchable
body suit, a bodice and a flowing skirt.  There are several patterns for
bodices (different neck lines, sleeves and gloves).  The skirts consist of
a 1.5 circle top skirt and two 1 circle under skirts.  They suggest chiffon,
pearl chiffon, twinckle nylon (?) and other fabrics I don't remeber.  The hem
is weighted by a 100lb test fishing line and/or boas.
Women's patterns are $22-25 and each includes variation and some have a latin
and a smooth pattern.  Men's latin patterns are $19.50 for a shirt/pants or
$17.50 for 3 shirts or 2 pants.
LJR also suplies fabrics.  They send you samples in their catalogue.  I don't
know how competitive their prices are but making a smooth costume with boas
will get quite expensive (the fabric adds up).
I do love the samples for the men's outfit, especially the 4-ply crepe ($45)
and the crushed satin (~$15).

What really surprized me were the prices for sequined fabric.  Those things
go for up to $235 a yard (and I think they are less than 45")!  And I feel
bad for spending $6/yard for shirt fabric :-)  Are those things sewn on by
hand or why are they so expensive?

I'll try to drop by LJR when I'm in Dallas over the Holidays and I'll report
if I see anything interesting.  If anybody knows where to get smooth men's
patterns or a less expensive source for the two fabrics I liked let me know.

	- Stepan

Disclaimer:  I don't have anything to do with LJR Designs.  I just got their
catalogue and figured people might be interested.


-- 
   Stepan Riha -- stepan@natinst.com
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 3 Jan 1993 09:06:11 MST
From: <ATG2G@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: i got a serger for ch
Distribution: alt

I don't know the first thing about sewing, and my s.o. is talking about

taking it up again.  Consumer Reports doesn't seem to have reviewed

sewing machines in quite some time.  Is a "serger" (sp?) the best?

If so, can someone tell me why?

Thanks -- Conrad Carlberg

Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: JONESD@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (David Jones)
Subject: Re: job.acs.ohio-state.edu (link?)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 03:45:41 GMT

>Could he post back and perhaps offer the compilation
>command procedure or explain why I've got:
>
>%LINK-W-NUDFSYMS, 3 undefined symbols:
>%LINK-I-UDFSYM,         DCACHE_RESTORE
>%LINK-I-UDFSYM,         DCACHE_SAVE
>%LINK-I-UDFSYM,         DCACHE_SEARCH
>

You got that because you tried to link the program with the LINK_CLIENT.COM
procedure that is part of the boombox distribution.  GOPHER_CLIENT.SHARE
doesn't include that file, any future versions will.  Those routines are
defined in a new source file, they manage the cache of previously fetched
directories.

Here is a LINK_CLIENT.COM that has a good chance of working:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
$ IF P1 .EQS. ""
$ THEN
$    IF ( F$getdvi("INET0:","EXISTS") ) THEN P1 = "WOLLONGONG"
$    IF ( f$getdvi("BG:","EXISTS") ) THEN P1 = "UCX"
$    IF ( f$getdvi("MULTINET:","EXISTS") )
$    THEN
$	P1 = "MULTINET"
$	CREATE MULTINET.OPT
GOPHER.OBJ
CSO.OBJ,ERROR.OBJ,GLOBALS.OBJ,DCACHE.OBJ
GOPHERSTRUCT.OBJ,MANAGER.OBJ,OURUTILS.OBJ,SUBPROCS.OBJ,UTIL.OBJ
sys$share:vaxcrtl/share
multinet:multinet_socket_library/share
$    ENDIF
$ ENDIF
$!
$ set noon
$ verify = f$verify(1)
$ link/exe=gopher 'P1'.OPT/OPTION
$ verify = 'f$verify(verify)
$ exit $status
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------

David L. Jones               |      Phone:    (614) 292-6929
Ohio State Unviversity       |      Internet:
1971 Neil Ave. Rm. 406       |               jonesd@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu
Columbus, OH 43210           |               jones-d@eng.ohio-state.edu

Disclaimer: A repudiation of a claim.
From: zlsiimw@info.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Re: Problems with PC Gopher and NCSA Telnet
Date: 23 Dec 92 09:39:36 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <168C51376F.GAM@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, GAM@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Greg
Mouning) writes:
|> Hi,
|>  
|> Yesterday, I downloaded and unzipped a copy of PC Gopher II 1.05r3 and have
|> installed it on on my PC.  My problem is getting the "g_tel" environment
|> variable to work correctly.  The message which flashes quickly across the
|> screen is:
|>  
|> unable to execute C:\GOPHER\TELBIN.EXE.
|>  
|> I have the following statement in a batch file called C:\GOPHER\GENV.BAT.
|>  
|> set g_tel=c:\gopher\telbin.exe -h c:\gopher\config.tel %%p %%n
|>  
|> I don't have a problem when I try to telnet from the DOS prompt directly.
|> Does anyone have a solution for me or see anything wrong with this
|> statement?

Which version of telnet are you using? For NCSA telnet I have the 2
parameters at the end as:

   %%A #%%P

i.e. the numeric address and the port number. The gopher server will
return the numeric address for use by the telnet program. 

Also check that you've got enough spare memory before the telnet is
attempted; the funny number on the top line of the screen in the
amount of free memory - NCSA telnet needs about 340000 I think.
However, if it is lack of memory you should get a pop-up box warning you.
-- 
_____________________________________________________________
Mark Whidby, Distributed Systems, Manchester Computing Centre
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: jack@umbc3.umbc.edu
Subject: Where are the FAQ's archived ?
Reply-To: jack@umbc3.umbc.edu
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 05:34:46 GMT

I'm getting ready to set up gopher on our campus and wanted to review
the FAQ's. Is any site archiving them?

Also, on campuses that have many departmental gopher servers does anyone
have suggestions on naming the hosts. I think I'm going to 
have a half a dozen groups wanting to use the hostname gopher, not all
of which have their own subdomain. 

thanks in advance,
jack suess
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Monday, 28 Dec 1992 10:55:18 MST
From: Grant Getz <KGGXG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject:    Gopher Icon for Windows

I'm still looking for a Gopher Icon for Windows.  If anyone
knows an anonymous FTP site where one can be had please let
me know directly.

Thanks in advance.

---

- R. Grant Getz                  INTERNET  -  KGGXG @ ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
  Support Systems Analyst                              (192.67.165.36)
  Arizona State University         BITNET  -  KGGXG @ ASUACAD
  Computing & Network
    Consulting Services - 0101      PHONE  -  (602) 965-5663
  Tempe, AZ  85287-0101               FAX  -  (602) 965-8698
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: ANDERSONC@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Chris Anderson)
Subject: where can I get public domain gopher software for a sparc?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 09:21:17 GMT

I am searching for a *small*ish gopher program for a
sparc.

Please, send replies via email.

Thanks,
Chris Anderson
--
cnader@sodium.mps.ohio-state.edu
andersonc@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu

life is the words; government is the punctuation.
Xref: sparky alt.gopher:1437 comp.infosystems.gopher:1700
From: zlsiimw@info.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher,comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: How does one obtain and make use of CSO to make phonebooks?
Date: 21 Dec 92 08:59:02 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Followup-To: alt.gopher
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <ellis.724558678@nova>, ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) writes:
|> I am working on setting up a gopher as a CWIS.  I have a phone dir program
|> that uses argv to lookup the different parts of phone entries.  I see that
|> all of the college sites I have seen so far use CSO.  I have not been able
|> to locate CSO or any discussion of it.  I would rather not reimplement it,
|> although I may "enhance" it.  Pointers please.

From the gopher FAQ list:

Q6:  How can I set up a "CSO" phone book server?  Where is the software?

A6:  CSO phone book servers are also known as "qi" servers.  The
     software implementation can be gotten via anonymous ftp from
     uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (128.174.5.50) as /pub/qi.tar.Z.  You may also
     see this referred to as "ph", which is what most of the clients
     are called.  A collected set of clients for Macs, PCs, VMS, VM,
     etc, are in the /pub/ph.tar.Z file.

     There is also an archive of the mailing list for qi/ph software on
     the same machine.  It's in /pub/info-ph.archive. You may join the
     list by sending email to info-ph-request@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu.

     This software is supported by Paul Pomes <p-pomes@uiuc.edu>
     Contact him for more information.
-- 
_____________________________________________________________
Mark Whidby, Distributed Systems, Manchester Computing Centre
From: zlsiimw@info.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Re: Lynx as a gopher client?
Date: 23 Dec 92 09:19:20 GMT
Reply-To: M.Whidby@mcc.ac.uk
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

I like it! I've ftp-ed a copy to play around with after Christmas.
-- 
_____________________________________________________________
Mark Whidby, Distributed Systems, Manchester Computing Centre
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: hemmadst@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Srikant Gurudas Hemmady)
Subject: Problem with GIF image display in Xgopher
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:43:27 GMT

Hi:

I could succesfully install the xgopher1.3 on my machine. But it
can't display the gif image files. I use the 'xv' instead of 'xloadimage'.
It displays the picture.gif (Ann Arbor gopher conference) by can't
display anything else.

I would highly appreciate some help from anybody

Thanks

Srikant


-- 

srikant hemmady >>>

Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: vanguard@midnight.bellcore.com (Mark Schlagenhauf)
Subject: Re: where can I get public domain gopher software for a sparc?
Followup-To: alt.gopher
Reply-To: vanguard@midnight.bellcore.com (Mark Schlagenhauf)
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 16:49:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.092117.13899@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, ANDERSONC@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Chris Anderson) writes:
|> I am searching for a *small*ish gopher program for a
|> sparc.
|> 
|> Please, send replies via email.

Actually, please post, or send me email, as well. I'd like to get ahold
of the exact same thing.

Later days and better ways...

Mark Schlagenhauf
vanguard@midnight.bellcore.com
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 13:29:06 MST
From: Grant Getz <KGGXG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject:    Windows Icon for Gopher

Having no luck obtaining an exisiting Gopher icon for Windows
I have made my own, using the Mac icon as a guide.  I have
placed GOPHER.ICO on wuarchive.wustl.edu (128.252.135.4) in
pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS.
From: montulli@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Lynx as a gopher client?
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:16:22 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I have written what turns out to be a pretty good implementation
of a gopher client.  This was done more as a consequence than a
goal, but has turned out well none the less.

What I am interested in knowing now is if it has any shortcomings,
and whether it should be distributed as a Gopher client.

The software is called Lynx and was developed for use as CWIS software.

Lynx currently supports:
	0 standard Gopher ascii files
	1 gopher directory types
	2 gopher CSO type
	4 Mac binhex types
	5 PC binary types
	7 Index type
	8 telnet type
	9 UNIX binary type
	g gif type
	I image type

Complete compatability with WWW is in the making.

Anonymous access to a client is at "KUfacts.cc.ukans.edu"
Look in the 'Internet Toolbox' for the gopher resources.

Anonymous ftp at KUHUB.CC.UKANS.EDU as lynx.tar-z

:lou
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Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Dan Jacobson)
Subject: Re: where can I get public domain gopher software for a sparc?
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:14:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.164935.9684@walter.bellcore.com> vanguard@midnight.bellcore.com (Mark Schlagenhauf) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.092117.13899@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, ANDERSONC@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Chris Anderson) writes:
>|> I am searching for a *small*ish gopher program for a
>|> sparc.
>|> 
>|> Please, send replies via email.
>
>Actually, please post, or send me email, as well. I'd like to get ahold
>of the exact same thing.
>
>Later days and better ways...
>
>Mark Schlagenhauf
>vanguard@midnight.bellcore.com

You can get a gopher client for Unix by anonymous ftp from 
boombox.micro.umn.edu in the "/pub/gopher/Unix" directory.  
Get gopher1.1.tar.Z (or xgopher.1.2.tar.Z if you want an
X-based client).

Gopher1.1.tar.Z also contains the source code
for the gopher server - which you can simply discard if you don't
want it.  The compiled gopher client itself takes up about 400 Kbytes
of disk-space. The compiled Xgopher client takes up about 1.4 Mbytes
of disk-space.

Best of luck,

Dan Jacobson

danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu
From: rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky)
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Re: Problems with PC Gopher and NCSA Telnet
Date: 23 Dec 92 09:14:09 MST
Distribution: world
Organization: Banzai Institute

In article <168C51376F.GAM@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, GAM@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu
   (Greg Mouning) writes:
> Yesterday, I downloaded and unzipped a copy of PC Gopher II 1.05r3 and have
> installed it on on my PC.  My problem is getting the "g_tel" environment
> variable to work correctly.  The message which flashes quickly across the
> screen is:
Version 1.05r3? Guess I'll have to raid boombox; the one I'm using is 1.02bU.

> unable to execute C:\GOPHER\TELBIN.EXE.
>  
> I have the following statement in a batch file called C:\GOPHER\GENV.BAT.
>  
> set g_tel=c:\gopher\telbin.exe -h c:\gopher\config.tel %%p %%n
>  
> I don't have a problem when I try to telnet from the DOS prompt directly.
> Does anyone have a solution for me or see anything wrong with this statement?
> If you prefer to contact me directly, please e-mail me at one of the following
> addresses:

What I have found is the PC Gopher needs about 540k free of memory. I got
the above message, after tweaking of tsrs (isn't dos fun?), I got ncsa telnet
to load, but not connect to anything, after more tweaking (more fun!) it
finally all worked. Keep in mind the version I'm using, plus that we're using
the Novell ODI stuff (lots of memory used by them, so you need high/upper
memory).  So mileage may very.

Hope this helps.

+---------+    Richard Travsky  RTRAVSKY @ CORRAL . UWYO . EDU
|         |    Division of Information Technology
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Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: ward@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Lynn Ward)
Subject: Re: How does one obtain and make use of CSO to make phonebooks?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:29:15 GMT

zlsiimw@info.mcc.ac.uk (Mark Whidby) writes:

>In article <ellis.724558678@nova>, ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis) writes:
>|> I am working on setting up a gopher as a CWIS.  I have a phone dir program
>|> that uses argv to lookup the different parts of phone entries.  I see that
>|> all of the college sites I have seen so far use CSO.  I have not been able
>|> to locate CSO or any discussion of it.  I would rather not reimplement it,
>|> although I may "enhance" it.  Pointers please.

>From the gopher FAQ list:

>Q6:  How can I set up a "CSO" phone book server?  Where is the software?

>A6:  CSO phone book servers are also known as "qi" servers.  The
>     software implementation can be gotten via anonymous ftp from
>     uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (128.174.5.50) as /pub/qi.tar.Z.  You may also
>     see this referred to as "ph", which is what most of the clients
>     are called.  A collected set of clients for Macs, PCs, VMS, VM,
>     etc, are in the /pub/ph.tar.Z file.

>     There is also an archive of the mailing list for qi/ph software on
>     the same machine.  It's in /pub/info-ph.archive. You may join the
>     list by sending email to info-ph-request@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu.

>     This software is supported by Paul Pomes <p-pomes@uiuc.edu>


There is also a newsgroup called info.ph where Nameserver admins can post
questions and comments.  It's worth reading if you're involved with main-
taining a CCSO Nameserver.

-Lynn Ward, CCSO


-- 
Lynn Ward
Network Design Office/Computing and Communications Services Office
1304 W. Springfield Ave., Urbana, IL 61801
e-mail: L-ward1@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.gopher
From: GAM@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Greg Mouning)
Subject: Problems with PC Gopher and NCSA Telnet
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 22:08:47 EST

Hi,
 
Yesterday, I downloaded and unzipped a copy of PC Gopher II 1.05r3 and have
installed it on on my PC.  My problem is getting the "g_tel" environment
variable to work correctly.  The message which flashes quickly across the
screen is:
 
unable to execute C:\GOPHER\TELBIN.EXE.
 
I have the following statement in a batch file called C:\GOPHER\GENV.BAT.
 
set g_tel=c:\gopher\telbin.exe -h c:\gopher\config.tel %%p %%n
 
I don't have a problem when I try to telnet from the DOS prompt directly.
Does anyone have a solution for me or see anything wrong with this statement?
If you prefer to contact me directly, please e-mail me at one of the following
addresses:
 
Bitnet:    GAM@YALEVM.BITNET
Internet:  GAM@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU
 
Thanks in advance for your response.
 
Greg
 
From: domi@marlis.grenoble.hp.com (Dominique DUMONT)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:02:43 GMT
Subject: Re: basic question : what is gopher ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, GND
Newsgroups: alt.gopher

Oops

sorry... I just read the comp.infosystems.gopher and I got all the 
informations I needed.

Sorry for the added noise on the net.


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    ^^^^^^      Name:          Dominique Dumont 
   / O  O \     Email:         Dominique_Dumont@hpgnd.grenoble.hp.com
  ( \____/ )    Address :      HEWLETT PACKARD, 38053 Grenoble Cedex 09
   \______/     Tel,Telnet:    (33) 76 62 57 24 - 7 779 5724
                Telex,Fax:     980 124 - (33) 76 62 53 20
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Newsgroups: alt.gopher
Subject: Re: job.acs.ohio-state.edu (link?)
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:52:22 -0600
Followup-To: alt.gopher
Distribution: world
Organization: MSUS

Thanks to the individual who posted the message concerning
the new and improved GOPHER for VMS, but it won't compile.

Could he post back and perhaps offer the compilation
command procedure or explain why I've got:

%LINK-W-NUDFSYMS, 3 undefined symbols:
%LINK-I-UDFSYM,         DCACHE_RESTORE
%LINK-I-UDFSYM,         DCACHE_SAVE
%LINK-I-UDFSYM,         DCACHE_SEARCH

thanks!
From: domi@marlis.grenoble.hp.com (Dominique DUMONT)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 08:39:10 GMT
Subject: basic question : what is gopher ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, GND
Newsgroups: alt.gopher


I've seen the name "gopher" used on various notes and mailing list but
I still can't figure out what is gopher. I only know that it might be
interesting to use it.

Can someone help me ?

Thanks

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    ^^^^^^      Name:          Dominique Dumont 
   / O  O \     Email:         Dominique_Dumont@grenoble.hp.com
  ( \____/ )    Address :      HEWLETT PACKARD, 38053 Grenoble Cedex 09
   \______/     Tel,Telnet:    (33) 76 62 57 24 - 7 779 5724
                Telex,Fax:     980 124 - (33) 76 62 53 20
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Newsgroups: alt.med.cfs
Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:34:50 EST
              <CFS-L@NIHLIST.BITNET>
From:         fac nancy evans <nancy@LIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Dr. Nye has left

re:  Roger's note that we on CFS network might also like to subscribe to
FIBROM-L:

Several people who I "know" from the CFS discussions do also participate
on FIBROM-L, and I myself subscribe to both.  I am on the FM net mostly
for a friend with FM, but I find some interesting things there that don't
make it to the CFS groups (e.g., a lot of discussion on which food
supplements/vitamins/etc. are most helpful, interesting comparisons of
the symptoms of FM vs. CFS).  One note of caution:  For some reason,
FIBROM-L generates a lot more mail than the CFS groups, and I am sometimes
overwhelmed with the number of messages I receive!  (But the moderator
does provide a handy command, sent to you when you sign up for FIBROM-L,
that you can use to stop mail for short periods of time when you are too
busy -- without actually unsubscribing permanently.)

Nancy Evans
nancy@lis.pitt.edu
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