HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey)
Subject: Re: Coherent 4.0.0 uucp      
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 14 Sep 92 04:39:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ben Bailey's Home..Tampa Fl.

Usually, instead of /tmp, the file should be moved to 
/usr/spool/uucppublic.  If you're going to place it into /tmp,
you'll need to make sure the /usr/lib/uucp/Permissions file
allows mwcbbs to have access to /tmp.

Ben
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From: JOHANIGG@dosuni1.bitnet (johannes niggemeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: problems with db(4.0)
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:10:27 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

hi coherent freaks,
I've got the new coherent-version and within my configuration (386DX-
noname) 'db'the debugger doesn't work correct.
It isn't for example unpossible to set any breakpoints, or in other
words breakpoints that are set, are not recognized when :e the execution
is done.
Has Anyone had similar problems or can help me otherwise?

THANKS a lot!           Johannes.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: RSpitz@Anaesthesie.Medizin.Uni-Muenchen.DBP.DE (Richard Spitz)
Subject: Re: Porting nn 6.4.16
Reply-To: rspitz@anaesthesie.medizin.uni-muenchen.dbp.de
Organization: Inst. f. Anaesthesiologie der LMU, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:27:38 GMT

Hi prospective users of nn,

today I received Udo Munk's port of nn 6.4.16 to COH 4.0 and uploaded it to
raven.alaska.edu . It is now sitting in pub/coherent/incoming32 as 13 
uuencoded files, named nn.uue.a through nn.uue.m .

I don't remember what the standard procedure is for notifying Jay Beavers,
keeper of raven, about new uploads to his system. Jay, if you read this,
please drop me a short notice about the way you want it done.

In order to get going with nn, you will have to edit the file numbers out of
each file (should be only the first line of each file, but please check
the bottom, too, I didn't!) and then issue the command cat nn.uue.* > nn.uue
then uudecode nn.uue to get the compressed nn.tar.Z  . I guess everybody
knows how to go on from there. Probably you can extract the whole thing
in one comand line doing some fancy piping, but I'm too lazy to try now,
and besides, I haven't updated to COH 4.0 yet.

Please direct all inquiries regarding this port of nn 6.4.16 not to me
(I was only the postman) but to Udo Munk: udo@umunk.gun.de   or
100021.2515@compuserve.com  .

Richard
From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: a couple of questions
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:38:55 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

Three questions:

1.  What does the (in)famous "prepare gift" error message mean on bootup?

2.  My bios allows me to use "shadow ram" for bios, system or both.
    Which setup is best for Coherent?

3.  My pc used Award bios and occasionally Coherent does something to
    the pc that scrambles the cmos settings creating all kinds of problems.
    Usually requiring me to disconnect the battery and reset all the
    settings.  If I shutdown and sync, then type reboot this happens almost
    100% of the time (so I don't do that anymore :)), but that never
    was a problem under 3.2.

Cheers,

Chris
From: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org (Terry Bell N8HSP)
Reply-To: tbell@n8hsp.ncoast.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: set VERSION still sez 3.3.2
Keywords: version,set
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:28:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: N8HSP Amateur Radio

When I issue the 'set' command it lists 'VERSION' as V3.3.2, I installed
4.0.1. Why isn't it V4.0.1?

$set<cr>
.
.
.
VERSION=V3.3.2
.
.
.


Toodles, Terry
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: michael@gandalf.moria (Michael Haardt)
Subject: Re: wnews
Reply-To: u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Organization: An old and gray machine, somewhere in Moria.
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 15:59:01 +0100

In article <Bu0Fyr.HtM@csn.org>, tbuck@teal.csn.org (Timothy E. Buchanan) writes:
> csn is the name of my internet host, and to.tbucks a test newsgroup I asked
> them to set. BTW, is there a way to make pnews use the screen editor
> /usr/bin/me that I placed in wnews.h before running make?

Well, what does it use instead?  I use ~e to get into the editor.

> When I exited pnews this article was placed in /usr/spool/news/to/tbucks
> and checknews replied there is news. However, nothing was moved into
> /usr/spool/batch.

Did you make entries in the sys file for other sites? I am not sure if
you have to create an empty file with the hostname of the other sites.

> My impression is that pnews should call inews to place this article into
> /usr/spool/batch since the distribution is csn (I also tried it w/ world).
> If I run inews the program hangs. 

That indeed how it works.  inews reads from stdin, is that what you mean
with "hang"?

> Could there be something wrong w/ inews; I got several msgs when making it,
> variables not used and one strict integer pun. Or p'haps I'm not using it
> right; the only docs included were the .8 pages. Where can I get the full
> manual?

There is a wonderful manual written by FvK, which explains how all 
programs work together, what the sys and active files are for etc.
I suggest checking MINIX archives for getting a complete distribution,
e.g. ftp.thp.uni-koeln.de:pub/minix.  It seems to me, that you didn't 
read that manual, because it explains the questions you asked.  You also
should have got examples for the configuration files.

I use wnews on Linux 0.96-pl1 (in former times I used it on MINIX) and 
it works fine.

Michael
From: LECTRICAMISH@DELPHI.COM
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: help with modem
Date: 8 Sep 92 10:56:41 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

> > 0lLcom3r
> > 1lPcolor0
> > 1lPcolor1
> > 1lPcolor2
> > 1lPcolor3
>
>
> Notice the first line here? I suggest you read the manual entry for
> /etc/ttys, if this was its contents at the time someone tried to dial
> in I'm not surprised nothing much happened.

Well, if you mean the 0 at the beginning, the modem was disabled when i
copied the file over, (why should it be enable, darn thing won't even
work).  If you mean having the 'l' in the second polition and the 'r'
and the end - that is what mwc tech support told me to put so i can
have logins and dial out on the same modem.
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Copying files to floppy disks
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 03:12:56 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

mike@array.com (Mike Willett) writes:

> : >>cat screen.tar.Za? >> screen.tar.Z
> : >>
> : >>This _appends_ rather than overwrites the screen.tar.Z file.
> : >
> : >Not in real UNIX. 
> 
> 	Somebody want to tell me what real UNIX is?  I have been working
> 	with this stuff since 1980, and I am yet to see "real" Unix!  :)
> 	This conversation is a cross post from from alt.aliens.visitors,
> 	Right?  :)

No. If your cat command as described above won't work with a single ">" then
whatever you're using doesn't deserve the description "unix compatible".
Coherent's works.

> 	cat file3 file2 file1 file >> file2
> 
> 	Will cat the files onto the end of file2 in the order that
> 	they were put on the command line.  file3 will be put on the
> 	end of file2, file2 will be put on the end of the original file2,
> 	doubling in size, file1 will be put on the end of file2, and file
> 	will be put on the end of file2.  Right?  Wrong.  Cat should be
> 	smart enough to tell you file2 is input and output, and exit().

Nope, because as you said (in a bit I deleted) cat doesn't know anything
about stdout redirection, that's something the shell's doing. So how is cat
supposed to know that stdout is being sent to one of the files it's reading
from.

						- k
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From: bob@dalek.mwc.com (Bob Hemedinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Best news systems & readers enquiry
Date: 10 Sep 92 13:57:06 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

> On another note.  I missed the GNEWS flame war...  But GNEWS is still
> up and running on 4.0.1 (after considerable debugging and rewriting of
> code).  I have uploaded it to MWCBBS along with TASS and COMB148.  If
> MWC chooses not to put it in the downloads, that is their choice.
>
> Roger

I'll compromise on this one. The file cohnews.tar.Z will be available
as:

/usr/spool/uucppublic/downloads/cohnews.tar.Z

on mwcbbs. It will NOT appear in the bbs interface data files.

Comb148 will be listed at comb4.tar.Z in the Contents.down file.
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From: sxjcb@orca.alaska.edu (Jay C. Beavers)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: MWCBBS Mirror at Raven
Date: 16 Sep 92 01:06:51 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.coherent
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network


The MWCBBS diskettes arrived today (thanks so much MWC) and they shall be
installed on Raven by tomorrow afternoon, so take a look and see what you
need.

 - jcb

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University of Alaska Computer Network   |    sxjcb@alaska.bitnet
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From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: elm problems still
Date: 6 Sep 92 05:00:34 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

Can someone who has installed elm contact me and walk
me through the installation?  I had it working at one
point and then it stopped.  I've tried to re-install it
following the instructions verbatim, but I cannot get
it to work again.  When I run elm, my screen goes black,
but the program seems to be running and the keyboard
isn't locked out (but I can't see anything).

Has this happened to anyone else?  I'm guessing that
I did something a little differently the first time
I installed the program, but I can't reproduce
the results. :-/

I've promised myself that once I get news and mail
working again that I will not fiddle with the
system ever again <grin>.

Cheers,

Chris
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Problems with cnews.
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 12:00:10 GMT
Reply-To: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit)
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

karl@dadoka.h.ni.schule.de (Karl Sarnow) writes:

> I now have the binaries for cnews installed, and changed some files
> according to "Managing Usenet ...". When I try postnews, I get the message
> /usr/lib/news/inews  not available. The state of inews is
> 
> s s x root root
> 
> Changing to ownership and group news did not help. Any idey why soemthing is
> going wrong? How can I figure otu the problem in more detail?

Que? Firstly, inews is a shell script and for security reasons shouldn't be
setuid to anything. Secondly, inews lives primarily at
/usr/lib/newsbin/inject/inews with a link or copy in /bin/inews. The problem
is probably with postnews, which is also a shell script, it probably needs
editing as to the correct location of inews.

						- k
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From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Coherent 4 in the UK
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:07:36 GMT
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

mike@mallard.demon.co.uk (Mike Zanker) writes:
: I've placed my order for Coherent 4 and I'm now patiently waiting
: the 4-6 weeks until delivery. Something has just occurred to me,
: though. Coherent will be set up for a US keyboard - shall I be
: able to change the key assignments or is there an equivalent of
: the DOS keyb.com/country.sys?

The keyboard table is loadable with various layouts. There is also
an layout for UK included. If you install Coherent for the first
time you'll have the US layout of course, but after you answer
the question from the installation procedure which keyboard to
use with UK-keyboard, you'll get it after the next boot.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: mike@mallard.demon.co.uk (Mike Zanker)
Subject: Deleting Masterboot without reinstalling? 
Distribution: world
X-Original-Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 18:27:00 BST
Organization: Mallard Independent Mail and News, Leeds, UK
X-Newsreader: Simple NEWS 1.12 (AMZ v1.2)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:27:00 +0000

In article <1992Sep10.012950.3638@generic.uucp> klovatt@generic.uucp writes:

>
>thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:
>
>>I'm looking at removing Coh from my PC to reinstall on a deicated machine.
>>Is there an easy way to delete Masterboot from my hard drive without
>>going thru the reinstall procedure?
>
>If you are running DOS 5.0, you can issue the command "FDISK /MBR". This
>rewrites the Master Boot Record.
>

OTOH, if you're running DRDOS 6.0, "rewrite master boot record"
is an option on the FDISK main menu.

Mike
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From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: beta for installable news ready
Date: 13 Sep 92 03:23:00 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1992Sep13.003440.16714@acme.gen.nz>, kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
> ben@bailey.UUCP (Ben Bailey) writes:
> 
>> [...regarding the beta version of an installable news system...]
>>
>> If possible, I would suggest posting it to comp.sources.unix.  
> 
> As this will be a uuencoded binary disk image, posting to a sources group is
> not a good idea.

I will eat the phone charges and upload the stuff to Raven.  I'll
do this tonight barring any problems connecting with MWC's v.32
modems (always an adventure).

In the future, can someone who lives near Northbrook, IL and
who also has internet access do the honors?  I'm probably looking
at ~$10 in phone charges to get 700+K worth of data.

Cheers,

Chris
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: smail blues
Date: 14 Sep 92 00:56:40 GMT
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

kwfriber@mtu.edu (Kenberg Frieth) writes:
: Also, I am going to be doing some mail forwarding between the internet and
: amateur radio, and I need to be able to censor the mail going out to keep
: from getting the attention of the FCC.  Does the coherent mail system have
: a facility for this, or am I going to have to kluge something?

I can't imagine that you want an automatic censoring, while automatic
forwarding could be done.
I would suggest to use elm, which let you edit a mail before it's
forwarded to another user.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: umunk@naxos.sni.de (Udo Munk)
Subject: Re: Deleting Masterboot without reinstalling?
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Info.Sys. AG, Paderborn, Germany
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:15:34 GMT

thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen) writes:

>I'm looking at removing Coh from my PC to reinstall on a deicated machine.
>Is there an easy way to delete Masterboot from my hard drive without
>going thru the reinstall procedure?

Install MS-DOS 5.0, it overwrites MWCs masterboot with it's own.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: help with modem
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 07:46:38 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

"Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet> writes:

> I'm having a problem with setting up my modem with coherent, after
> days of messing around with it, i finally figured out that my modem
> defaults to "strapping" the DTR (no thanks to tech support i might

How are MWC tech support supposed to know that your modem is brain-damaged?

> add), so i now resorted to plugging in my ole 2400, and things almost
> work (alot better then they did before, but anyway) i can dial out
> fine, but when i try to get incoming calls - here is what happens -

What's in your /etc/ttys? Is modeminit being called in /etc/rc? What does
modeminit contain?

						- k
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From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: gas port
Date: 06 Sep 92 14:54
Organization: Magick Shoppe, Gurth City

Is gas already ported?  If not, I'll try, though I have only 1.38beta
with the COFF patches.  Those people interested to do the gcc port are
welcome to contact me.

BTW:  Anyone at an archive site interested in GNU make, diff/diff3, patch ?
Those are up and running well...

--ralf
From: mcampbel@eola.cs.ucf.edu (Mike Campbell )
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: anyone ported sz/rz yet?
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:29:54 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

And if so, where to find it?
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: tin help
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:01:06 GMT
Organization: U. Munk's private BBS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

root@tbucks.com (Superuser) writes:
: More help is requested for WNEWS and tin. A short while ago, I could not
: use unbatch to move files from /usr/spool/news/in.coming to
: /usr/spool/news/*. I tried setting /usr/bin/unbatch to -rwxrwxrwx and was
: then able to run this program as root. The docs for WNEWS insist this
: should be -r-sr-s---. Anyway, /usr/lib/news/log showed files received from
: /in.coming.

The permission of unbatch should really be -r-sr-s---!!
But if you want to run unbatch you must login as user usenet, because
of the permissions! BTW, I'm using rnews -U to unbatch the newsbatches
from crontab or manually.

: Now tin doesn't work right. Again, it worked ystdy. When I start tin, it
: shows the groups with a 1 next to each name, except for the first group
: comp.os.coherent which has a blank. Pressing to mark the group as unread
: chnges this blank to a 5, and there are indeed 5 articles in this group.
: 
: Now, since I marked the group as unread then pressing <CR> should bring up
: the first article, right? Instead, I am told 'No Articles' and the 5 turns
: back to a blank.

This sounds as inconsistent data in /usr/lib/news/active and the spool
directorys to me. Take a look into /usr/spool/news/comp/os/coherent,
there should be 5 files named 1 2 3 4 5. In the active file the
line with c.o.c should look like these:
comp.os.coherent 00005 00001 y
If not, ajust it so, that it fits to the files in the spool directory.

: Am I right in thinking that tin consults /usr/lib/news/active to determine
: the groups and article numbers?

Right.

: Why is there another active file in /.tin? This one does not have numbers
: and if it is deleted, tin promptly rebuilds it.

Good question, I've asked it to my selfe too.

: How can I get tin to start up and show me the articles?

If you changed any of the files in $HOME/.tin remove the whole directory
and run tin. Tin creates the directory and the files in it when invoked
the first time. If your data in the spool directorys and /usr/lib/news/active
is consistent, tin will show you the groups with the number of articles in
them. Empty groups without any articel received so far are shown with a 1,
and if you want to read the group tin complains that there are no articles.
This is normal (just a feature or a bug) and changes imediatly after the
groups have some articles in them.
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From: kenji@tom.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: anyone ported sz/rz yet?
Date: 9 Sep 92 02:50:14 GMT
Reply-To: kenji@komaba.c.u-tokyo.ac.jp
Organization: RCAC Project, ASTEM RI, Kyoto, Japan
In-reply-to: mcampbel@eola.cs.ucf.edu's message of 8 Sep 92 14:29:54 GMT


I checked out the original zmodem kit of comp.sources.misc(?) and
compiled it successfully.

In article <1992Sep8.142954.2780@cs.ucf.edu> mcampbel@eola.cs.ucf.edu (Mike Campbell ) writes:
> >>And if so, where to find it?

You can find a zmodem kit in raven.alaska.edu:pub/coherent/sources/zmodem*.

// Kenji
From: Bret.Johnson@p1.f1110.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bret Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: ckermit
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 05:18:38 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/1110.1 - Flying High!, Marietta OH

I canonly run ckermit as root or su. err, I mean I have to su to root
to be able to use my /dev/com4fr device?

I just did the update and thats all. what should the /dev/com4* files
permissions be???

Thanks,
                       Bret Johnson

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From: Bret.Johnson@p1.f1110.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bret Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Elm, Minicom and Xmail
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 13:42:54 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/1110.1 - Flying High!, Marietta OH

I have enjoyed seting up some new programs with 4.0.1.....

But I have a few questions:

1. ELM..

    sh Configure
      ... Checking Kit ...
    AWK syntax error
    terminating

     Plus, I can not find TBL to format the man pages and doc's

    Whats going on here?  I can nto do a make either...

2. Minicom..

    Logged in as me (Bret)

    minicom -c on
     Cannot creat lockfile. sorry

   But, I can run it logged in as root..

   What do I need to do?
     
3.. Xmail..

  I can use  it.  in mail  ? mx bret
  It sends mail jsut fine..

  But!  What the heck is going on?
  Does it encrypt something?
  I  can not find any info on this....


 Thanks to all who have helped before and those who will again..

                       Bret Johnson

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