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From: morse@cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: BYU-SDSU Predictions
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:02:46 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.college

In article <RFARR.4.0@>, RFARR@ (Rich Farr) writes:
|> Anyone dare to make a prediction on tonights BYU-San Diego State game.  
|> Remember, keep the numbers high<g>.

Well, I'll probably eat this since most people won't get until after
the game, but I predict 45-42 BYU.  Probably more evenly paced than
the big lead/big comeback game of last year and this should keep the
scoring down somewhat.

BYU's pass defense looked anemic last week even against UTEP.  I wouldn't
be surprised to see SDSU going with the bomb like they did last year.
Marshall Faulk should probably have a good game too, but if the BYU
secondary is giving away free touchdowns, he may not see the ball as
much as he did last week against USC.  SDSU's own secondary wasn't
very impressive against USC (what was it, four touchdown passes for a 
USC quarterback?) so BYU's receivers should also do pretty well.  The
Cougars are awfully tough to beat at home, but have a tendency to not
do as well at night.  Should be a good game.

-- 
Bryan Morse                University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
morse@cs.unc.edu           Department of Computer Science
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From: hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pitt-WVU Tickets Available
Date: 11 Sep 92 19:46:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Sep11.191156.8082@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
>> 
>>    For the first time in years, Pitt-WVU is not yet a sellout.  For many
>> reasons (low team expectations, Pittsburgh newspaper strike).
>
>Low expectations of the team, or by the team?

   Low expectations of the team(s).  8-4 may be high expectations for
Rutgers fans, but to Pitt backers who remember 1976 and the Sherrill glory
years, 8-4 is pretty lame.  Also, don't forget that WVU was 11-1 and
playing for the MNC a few years ago.  Since NJ is pretty flat and swampy, I
guess Rutgers fans don't know what it's like to be on top of a mountain
looking down on everybody else (unless it's atop one of those mountains of
New York trash). :-) :-)
>
>I've got my tickets for next week's RU/Pitt game.  Are you
>motoring up or couch potato(e)ing?
>
   If it were not one of these misguided Thursday night games, I'd be there.
I just don't have the vacation time available to travel to this event.
These Thursday night affairs make it very difficult for visiting fans to
follow their teams.  In addition, it forces the players to lose 2-3 days of
classes.  I'm also not convinced that the players are fully recovered by
Thursday from the previous Saturday's mayhem.

Harry Bloomberg
hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu
From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UMich-ND bickering
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:38:52 GMT

kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:

}In article <bMr-5f-@engin.umich.edu>, hajel@engin.umich.edu (john hajel) writes:
[after a little judicious editing]
}|> The series restarted in 1985:
}|> 
}|> Michigan Won: 1985, 1986, 1991
}|> Notre Dame Won: 1987, 1988, 1989, 1990
}
}That first victory by Michigan over ND doesn't count because I think that it
}might have been while Faust was coaching there. 

I'll tell you what, we'll let it count for half.  OK?

-Mike Noonan
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From: mckinzie@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Mark McKinzie)
Subject: No crow this time (UW-UW)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 22:45:10 GMT


I pulled the following out of my nn's outgoing post file (too bad
the program doesn't preserve mssg id's).  Unlike last week's failure
to predict a Cal victory, my UW-UW prediction was pretty close.


>From mckinzie Tue Jun 16 15:49:35 1992
>From: mckinzie
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
>Subject: Re: More really early predictions
>Distribution: world
>References: <1992Jun16.163735.11944@u.washington.edu>
>Status: RO
>
>crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>
>>  Sept.12  ...................... Wisconsin
>
>>Somehow, the AD manages to schedule perrenially weak teams from big
>>conferences to beat up on.  Last year it was Kansas St., this year it is 
>>Wisconsin.  Huskies 56-7.
>
>I have gone on record earlier, and I will repeat now for all to laugh at,
>that Wisconsin lose this game by fewer than 20 points.  I believe that
>Wisconsin will have a winning season this year.  Out QB situation is still
>pretty pathetic, but look out for Bucky's defense!  Prediction: UW 27, UW 9.

Actual score:  UW 27, Wisc 10.


***
For those of you keeping score, I'm now 1-1 on my predictions from
last June.  One last one left to test:  Will the Spartans beat $tanfurd
by two touchdowns on the 26th?

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From: dpassage@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU (David Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: PENN STATE: NO QB NEEDED?
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:35:56
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
Distribution: USA
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In-reply-to: jli@bingham.utah.edu's message of Fri, 11 Sep 92 18:57:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.185703.28512@fcom.cc.utah.edu>, 
	jli@bingham.utah.edu (Jianliang Li) writes:

	   Although PSU lost its starting QB and its 1st backup QB, PENN STATE
   still has a 27-point advantage over TEMPLE.  Any explanations?

Yeah.  Temple sucks.

David Paschich
p.s.:  Cal 37, Purdue 3.
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From: chico@athena.mit.edu (Thomas A Weston)
Subject: Re: QB situation at PSU?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:48:29 GMT

My understanding was that Sacca (John not Tony) sucked and was pulled.  Before
the game Paterno intended to redshirt Richardson and claimed placekicker Craig
Fayak was number 2.  This was probably just to give Sacca some confidence.  For
the time being, it seems that Richardson will start.

Collins was originally listed as out for the first two games.  He almost
definitely will not play against Temple.  However, the CDT says he may be ready
for the next week.  I'm not sure when Nardilillo is due back.  He's already
pissed Paterno off anyway buy originally planning to transfer because of lack of
PT.  

Anyway, if PSU is to make a run at the Number 1, they need Collins.  Without
him, PSU will need at least 200 yards from Anderson and 3 punt return TDs from OJ
to beat Miami.
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: What is a Boilermaker?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:44:56 CDT

In article <88942@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:
>In article <192thcINNdr2@hpsdlss3.sdd.hp.com> laura@sdd.hp.com (Laura Mansfield) writes:
>>Like it says in the subject line...
>>What is a Boilermaker?
>
>Quoting from the Purdue CS/EE student survival guide (in a section on
>thie history and traditions of Purdue):
>
>	As the story goes, when other college teams met the
>	Purdue football squad they were in awe of the size of the
>	Purdue players.  Believing that no man of academic
>	ability could be so enormous, rivals were sure that the Purdue
>	team was made up of workers from the old Lafayette Boiler
>	Factory.  Hence, Purdue was the victim of many insulting
>	names,  one of which was "Boilermakers".
>
>	Other tellers of this tale (probably Purdue opponents)
>	state that the team members actually were boilermakers and
>	not students.  Do not believe them.  Purdue, being a famous
>	agricultural school, attracted many farm boys who were typically
>	large, healthy, and powerful.

Sorry, Rick.  Even the Purdue *official* explanation admits to the fact
that some of these guys were local workers taking only one class.  Purdue,
the first school to cheat!!!
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: viktor@mgr.hjf.org (Viktor Kaufmann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best record vs. Notre Dame
Date: 15 Sep 92 12:27:19 GMT
Organization: HJF AIDS Research Project, Washington DC

If I remember my history correctly, it would be the
University of Chicago Maroons (the *true* Monsters of the Midway).

Viktor Kaufmann
From: ssawin@bbn.com (Scott Sawin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Ohio State tickets wanted
Date: 10 Sep 1992 15:30:50 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
Reply-To: ssawin@ccv1.bbn.com (Scott Sawin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

A friend of mine is trying to get four tickets to the Ohio State Columbus Day
weekend game.  Are these difficult to come buy?  Any information or phone
numbers would be greatly appreciated.  Please send email to

                      ssawin@ccv1.bbn.com

Thanks,

Scott
From: exustp@exu.ericsson.se (Stephen Pittner,xt-dt,x0672)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: David Palmer
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:20:45 GMT
Reply-To: exustp@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article 715932280@Isis.MsState.Edu, dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
>
>Let's see what all the rsfc folks think about Alabama's David Palmer, who
>was lucky enough to get off by being treated as a minor for his *first*
>DUI, that got another DUI (that makes two in three months).
>
>Regardless of whom he plays for, the kid obviously needs help bad, most 
>folks in Mississippi would be sittin in jail for a while on their second
>offense that quickly.
>
>
  Acording to the Dallas Morning News, Stallings has suspended Palmer from the team
after this last infraction. No doubt this kid needs help...I just hate to see 
somebody piss away their future like this guy is.



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From: pedersen@seas.smu.edu (Ted Pedersen)
Subject: Re: (another) coaching move rumor
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:25:18 GMT

Actually the Jackie Sherril rumour I heard was about him going to
Tennessee. I think I read this in the Dallas Morning News...He is
supposed to have some ties to Johnny Majors that make this a nice
rumour. 

Let me start an Arkansas rumour. Barry Switzer. He was hanging around
Fayetteville last year lots...did color commentary on the radio...it
was memorable in that he would say "there's 6:21 let, now 6:20,
6:19"... I'd give it half a thought in that I "think" he and Broyles
are pals...

We'll see.

Ted Pedersen
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Illinois
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:38:10 GMT

Finally Illinois is ranked in the top 25 again!  We are #25 on the
CNN poll and #30 on the AP with the next game at Houston.

BTW, be sure to enter the weekly top 25 poll of our group.  There
were only 20 entries last week and I'm sure that we have a lot more
than 20 people reading if not posting articles.

Before you ask, I was not the person who ranked Illinois #8 last week.
I'm a fan, but not that big of a fan.
								Peder

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: godfrey@cs.washington.edu (Garr Godfrey)
Subject: Re: Notre Dame schedule (was: Weekly top 25 )
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:29:41 GMT

In article <1685FA5EB.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com> JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com writes:
>
>The Irish got pummelled 26-6 on April 20 (is this football season?)
>but benifitting from experience kept the score to 4-10 on the second day.
                                                   ^^^^
Was football scored differently back then, or did they really get 2 safties?

>
>Now you know the rest of the story.


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* Garr Godfrey
*   Any opinions expressed are someone else's. I take no responsibility.
*   godfrey@cs.washington.edu
From: reed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Perry Reed)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:46:58 GMT
Subject: Aztecs vs Trojans
Organization: Hewlett Packard Co. / PGP
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college

Who would have thought that the San Diego State Aztecs could tie the USC
Trojans, and the Trojans would take the tie as a "win" and the Aztecs
would feel the tie was a "loss"???

Perry
reed@hpcc01.corp.hp.com
From: saqx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Dork of the Week
Date: 8 Sep 92 03:29:57 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

I suggest we start a contest:

                         DORK OF THE WEEK

Let me nominate East Carolina's head coach Steve Logan for the first award.
After his Pirates had been soundly thumped by the Syracuse Orangemen 42-21,
giving up 634 yards in total offense, scoring two quick touchdowns in the
fourth quarter against the Orange second-string defense for most of their
points, he was quoted as saying, "If that's the No. 10 team in the country,
I'll go tee it up with them again in 30 minutes."  Huh?  Of course, he's
wrong, that *wasn't* the No. 10 team, they're the No. 9 team now. :-)
But seriously, he argued that ECU missed some opportunities.  He wisely
didn't mention SU's fumble inside the ECU 10 and John Biskup's 3 missed
easy field goals, which by all rights should have given the Orange another
16 points for a total of 58.  Logan claimed, "We can compete with anybody in
the country."  I agree.  But I don't care how many yards you rack up (522
yards passing for ECU), if your opponent is scoring 58 points on you, you
aren't going to win many games, and your boasting is going to sound
downright asinine.  

Other nominations?
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From: wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski)
Subject: FSU - ND
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:16:20 GMT

The last victory by FSU over ND doesn't count because I think that it
might have been while Faust was coaching there.
From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Scores
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:36:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Ohio State University


     Because I live in the Eastern Time Zone, I can't always get the results of
late West Coast games in my Sunday paper. If someone can post (instead of 
e-mail - there are a lot of us out here :-) ) the scores of these games:

     UCLA - Fullerton State
     New Mexico - New Mexico State
     UTEP - UNLV

     I (we?) would *really* appreciate it! Thanks!
|
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    *The* Ohio State University
    "New occasions teach new duties; Time makes ancient good uncouth /
     They must upward still and onward who would keep abreast of Truth..."
From: herreid@plains.NoDak.edu (Todd J. Herreid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: DIVISION II CHEATING
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:35:31 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

NORTH DAKOTA STATE WONDERS WHERE FILM CAME FROM

FARGO (AP)--Three plays into Saturday's season opener, North
Dakota State head football coach Rocky Hager had to check his
program.  Here was a team that walked like Cal Poly-San Luis
Obispo.  That talked like Cal Poly-SLO.  That Defended the
veer option like Mankato State (MN).

"It was like, `Holy Cow, this is not what we got ourselves
ready for.'  Now what do we have to get to?"  NDSU stumbled
the first half but got to it in the second, defeating the
Mustangs 26-10.  After the game, Hager wondered if Cal Poly
had prepared for the game with an illegal video tape.

"Where they got the information from, no one knows 100
percent for sure.  But they definitely were well schooled,"
Hager said Monday at his regular weekly news conference.
"They did run a package that they've never run before, and
its similar to the things we see in the North Central
Conference," said Hager.

Specifically, it looked like the defense that defeated NDSU
27-7 and 17-11 in 1991.  "It looked very much like a Mankato
package," Hager said.  "Very much the same in how linebackers
played things, how the outside ends played things, how the
inverts in the alley played things.  A lot of similarities."

It is against NCC rules to provide videotape of another NCC
school to non-conference opponents.  For example, said Hager,
"Say IUP (Indiana U.-Pennsyvania) calls us and asks us to
send a video tape on UND (University of North Dakota). ..And
we did get a call from IUP asking for film and we told them,
`Sorry, we can't help you out.'"

With their film exchange rules at stake, what would motivate
anybody to break the rules?  "If you're asking if there's
some jealousy in the North Central Conference, you bet,"
replied Hager.  "let's face reality.  ..I wouldn't say that
it's for sure in all nine of the other conference schools.
But probably."

Mankato athletic director Don Amiot was steamed by the
implication.  "I can assure you that we're not in the
business of sending NCC members tapes to their opponents,"
Amiot said in a telephone interview.  "I mean, really."

Said NDSU athletic director Bob Entzion, "I think if somebody
did give somebody a film they wouldn't say so anyway."
From: piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Bama, God, and Bear Bryant
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:05:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep9.203211.18536@wl.com> wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski) writes:
>Bear Bryant went to his grave with an 0-4 record against Notre Dame. 
>Could it be that God is Catholic after all?

	No, but he did take pity on the poor fools and allow them to beat
	his own team four times.


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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: (none)
Date: 12 Sep 92 14:13:50 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

Favorite                           UDog          Spread
-------------------------------------------------------
  MICHIGAN ST.                     C. Michigan   20
  KENT                             Ohio Univ.    PK
  INDIANA                          Miami (Ohio)  15
  OHIO ST.                         Bowl. Green   21
  LA. TECH                         E. Michigan   22 1/2
  Toledo                           AKRON          3
  TCU                              W. Michigan   16

Talk about no respect!  Last year, Central Michigan beat Michigant St. by 17.
Miami is coing off of a tie with West Virginia.  Bowling Green, who sports the
nations third longest winning streak had to come from behind to beat Western
Michigan.  Were I a betting man, I'd take Central, Western, Bowling Green and
Miami and run with the points.

      - Pat
.

- Patrick E. Fleming ---------------------------------------------------------
- Department of Chemistry ------------ Some things are still a mystery to me -
- Ohio Wesleyan University ----------- While others are much too clear! ------
- pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu -----------------------------------------
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From: rothe@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ted Rothe)
Subject: Re: Score Trivia...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:01:41 GMT

pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes:

>In article <1992Sep15.144906.13494@cs.brown.edu> cs169061@cs.brown.edu (Michael
> Kalman) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep15.022458.29522@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, dew6c@uvacs.cs.V
>irginia.EDU (Dallas E. Wrege) writes:
>>|> I remember someone telling me once that the most
>>|> lopsided score of all times was back around 1910
>>|> or so, when Georgia Tech beat Cumberland 222-0, and
>>|> the game was apparently called halfway through the
>>|> third quarter.
>>|>
>>|> Does this have a prayer of being true?
>>|>
>>|> - Dallas
>I also heard that there were no first downs for either team in that game, which
>must mean that Georgia Tech scored every time they touched the ball.

>Also: I read that Cumberland really did not want to play that game, and knew 
>they were going to be absolutely destroyed, but there was a clause in the 
>agreement that if Cumberland forfeited the game rather than play it, they would
>have to pay GT a certain amount of money.

Another thing.  Cumberland also exercised a rarely used option.  They elected	to KICK OFF after Georgia Tech scored.  The logic behind this was it would	take GT longer to score.  Cumberland had dumped its football program a while	before this game, and ended up fielding a bunch of regular students.  After	the game the Cumberland coach or whoever said that he game was a success:	No players suffered any injuries.

-- 
Ted Rothe
rothe@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Marshall Faulk next Heisman winner?
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:14:34 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta Western Internal Systems, Technical Operations

In article <1992Sep7.015413.14267@qualcomm.com> glane@athena.qualcomm.com (George Lane) writes:
>It used to be that I had two Colorado schools to root for, but now
>they are playing each other. Is there some special name for this game
>like the Colorado Classic, or the governor's cup?

It's played for the Centennial Cup.
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