HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Claudio.Terrorist@ed.ac.uk (Claudio.Terrorist)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Proximity lights
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:32:15 GMT
Reply-To: Claudio.Terrorist@ed.ac.uk (Claudio.Terrorist)
Organization: The Tea Party Of The Vicar


I'm getting seriously annoyed at this city's street lights.

It was bad last year, when one of the lamps between here and PeevaCentre
had a special proximity sensor which switched it off when I was in the
area (well, it wasn't aimed precisely at me, since it worked also when
!Al reached the place on his way to the ObBus). This is slightly annoying,
but not worth a peeve.

Recently, however, things are just getting worse. In front of the main
entrance of JCMB there is a big reflector which lights the whole area,
hanging from the roof about fifteen metres above Mike Holmes' office.
It is precisely tuned to point precisely in the direction of my eyes as
I arrive. As soon as I get used to the light level, it switches itself
off. At this point, of course, I can't see a thing, but I still have to
find the entrance. When, by pure luck, I manage to bump into the right
door, the light is turned on again. Perhaps, rather than a proximity
switch with a camera and a complicated system to switch only when *I* am
there, there is just a simple Friend of Somebody or Other who spends the
days watching out of his window ready to turn the switch?

No. Whatever it is, the University must have sold the technology to the
City Council, as many street lights are being modified to behave precisely
that way. Also, some private houses seem to have installed this sophisticated
photon emission system for the sole purpose to annoy Claudio.Terrorist.

I noticed it today on my way into the office. It was about one hour before
dawn, so all the lights were still on. Guess when precisely they were turned
off. Since this wasn't enough, three different houses had garden lights which
blasted they 15000 watts power on the road about hundred metres before I
reached the place, and then turned completely dark as soon as my eyes were
completely burned. To complete the picture, somebody took his Volvo out of
the garage just to point the headlights precisely in my eyes as I turned a
corner. Again, to switch them off as soon as my eyes got used to that.

I am now ready to do something drastic. It is *my* turn to show that I can
use some radiation against other people. Anybody got a spare H-bomb they
don't need?

 
C.T.
From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Beatles Peeve
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 08:08:11 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Dec11.195719.948@tdb.uu.se>, Sven Wallman writes:

> Not Al Crawford (Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk) wrote:
> : time to the music? Or maybe a piece of animatronics - a giant, realistic
> : John Lennon Muppet. Frank Oz could do the voice. Or maybe they could just
> 
> I thought Frank Oz was dead.

That's Jim Henson.

Dac
--
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE)
Subject: Re: The Eyes Are Everywhere
Reply-To: Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:31:31 GMT

In article <lipdibINN99@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, 
geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes in alt.peeves:
|>bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Steve Spoogeson) spurts:
|>
|>>What AIDS has to do with Nazism _I'LL_ never know.  
|>
|>Peeve: the word "Nazism."  I've seen it in print a thousand times but 
|>never heard it actually spoken, so I have a vague sense of uneasiness 
|>that I'm pronouncing it wrong in my mind.  Is it "NOTZI-ism" or 
|>"NOTTS-ism?"

Neither! There ain't no such word as "Nazism" (shudder)! It's being used
mostly by people who have scant knowledge about what they are talking 
about. The illiteracy of its use is on par with talking about "Commism",
i.e. the belief system of a commie.

Try "National Socialism", "German Fascism" oder "Nazi Fascism", if You must.

Nazi is a diminuitive of "National Sozialist", a member of the NSDAP, most
probably of Bavarian origin ("Nazi" also used to be a relatively common 
informal familiar variant of the name "Ignaz". Needless to say that this 
usage has somewhat fallen into disrepute).

|>Geoff Miller			+ + + + + + + +        Sun Microsystems
|>geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM	+ + + + + + + +     Menlo Park, 

         Pettily pedantically Yours,
                   "English Usage Nazi"

ObDrieux: Of course, Kommissar drieux would use 
          "PinkoPervoSeXularHuManistEuroKommiFemiNaZiWeenoidIsm", which is
          nearly as barfulous.

       Till Poser         Internet: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
-F35- ZEUS DESY/Freiburg  Bitnet:   POSER@DESYVAX
bldg.1b-235, Notkestr.85  Hepnet:   VXDESY::POSER (13313::Poser)
   D-2000 Hamburg 52      Tel.: -49-40-8998-2004
From: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Cereal Killer)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Bleeding heart liberals
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:21:40 GMT
Reply-To: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Cereal Killer)
Organization: John Deere Product Development and Pathology Lab

dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton) writes:

>And we all know that
>Curtis is really a soft cuddly toy of a man, and not a real man
>like, say, Iowa Dan. :-)^H^H^H [I don't know what came over me!]

	Well it sure as hell wasn't me, DAC!  I was out shooting all
day, and have been working fairly hard this evening.

	Perhaps you might ask whoever shows up at breakfast tomorrow?

--
< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Emily PostScript)
Subject: Re: Bleeding heart liberals
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Medaeval Manners Police
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:51:56 GMT


In article <Bz297w.8pp@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, dennis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Thomas A. Dennis) writes:
[nomenclature debate rages endlessly]
|>"Cleveland Leather Dykes."  Shit--now I'M done for... 

Now that's more like it! Finally you're showing some spunk! Keep your sense of
balance and we may promote you from rookie to regular.
--
Nolan "Grand Whizzer" Hinshaw
POFC
From: shampton@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott M Hampton)
Subject: Re: The Other Side of the Chanukka Bush
Keywords: hohoho, rudolf, moishe, treeworship, saturnalia
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:44:41 GMT

In article <Bz9xs3.Dv0@news.iastate.edu> z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Cereal Killer) writes:
>shampton@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott M Hampton) writes:
>
>>Peeve2: Mormons. All of them. Humorless gits, useless wanks, hard working
>>unimaginative mind numbingly closeminded puritanical soulless lackwits.
>	Yeah, there are a few of them like that.

My understanding is that the word FEW means significantly less than most.
But I could be wrong. It's happened before.....

>>No music,
>	Bullshit.  The entire goddamn Osmond family are Mormons, moron!

Case closed. Point mine. No music. No really good writers either, now that
O.S. Card has wussed out on his work. There are a couple of good rural
poets, if you like that sorta stuff, but they use the God word too often.

>>no dancing
>	No *ability* to dance, but dancing is not forbidden.

Tell that to the Bishop. In Latin dance (tango, cha-cha, rhumba, lambada),
you're supposed to dance close, and that's BAD. Very bad. So bad my wife and
I had to go out at least twice a week for years before all the sin potential
had been exhausted. A good night of dancin' is at least as good as sex, and
if you do the horizontal mambo afterwards.....

>> no alcohol
>
>	Anything you brew yourself is alright, as is anything of low
>alcohol content you drink in moderation.

See. That's what I mean. What fun is moderation if you HAVE to do it. And
the single malt whiskies, the 20 year old ports, tequila, bourbon, brandy,
armagnac, vodka, etc, etc, etc; aint none of them 'low alcohol.'

[i cut some, he cut some, what the hell]

>	Peeve: basing views of people on religion.  As with any broad
>classification of people, it is undoubtedly going to be wrong when
>applied to a vast majority of the group, and just as useless as
>classifying people based on race, gender, or virtually anything else.

Dan, my in-laws would be mind numbingly annoying regardless of their
religion. But they got all that good book belief and they don't have an
ounce of toleration. They are REPRESENTATIVE members of their community who
are considered to be a bit too liberal in small fuckwit town Colorado. The
entire city is mormon owned, as is the city and county council, and you
gotta drive over 70 miles to country swing and have a shot of TQ.

Besides which, I don't have to be a rational generous person to peeve. It
kinda gets in the way, if ya know what I mean.
-- 

Scott M. Hampton             Woulffe            shampton@jarthur.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.angst
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 01:00:12 GMT

In article <symingto.724041635@room708.sco.dec.com> symingto@iti.org (F. S. Symington) writes:
>In <lier0bINN6p2@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>
[...]
>>drew
>>banta@abingdon.sun.com
>
>drew you are obviously an ass and don't deserve more attention than
>this:
>	I read a news article from someone that seemed to be unhappy
>    	with the season and I thought I would share a personal
>	experience that would help that person get a better feel for
>	what the holiday spirit is about. Your assault on me was
>	uncalled for and stupid. I wish you luck in life....
>	You will need it.


F.S, you are obviously clueless.  See the 'Newsgroups' line up above?
It reads 'alt.peves,alt.angst'.  Now if your education had gone
beyond the third grade, you might understand either the word 'angst' or
the word 'peeve' and know that they are not happy things.

Get a grip, man!  We're posting here because we WANT to complain!
We want to suffer!  If we wanted to get cheered up, there's
fifty-three fucking channels on the t.v. all playing "It's A
Wonderful Life", right this minute!  We don't need your third-rate
pathos, we can mainline James Stewart for the next two weeks!

So take it to alt.good.news.  It's a good thing that people like
you breed, otherwise you wouldn't have anything to do.


--
            Eric Murray                 ericm@microunity.com
In this game, the winner is also the loser, and the judge's decisions are final
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de (Till Poser  -  ZEUS OFFLINE)
Subject: Re: The Laundrette - More Than Meets The Eye
Reply-To: Poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:11:42 GMT

In article <ByzuKA.IGG@dcs.ed.ac.uk>, Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk 
(Not Al Crawford) writes in alt.peeves:

[illuminating discourse deleted]

|>2. Take your own soap powder with you. The effects of washing dirty
|>   laundry in soap powder from another dimension are unknown, but it's
|>   a fair bet it won't shift those stubborn stains and get things whiter
|>   than white (*)

|>(*) Supplementary peeve - how can anything be whiter than white?

By visual enhancers, aka. UV converting dyes. White [tm] cloth will only
relect most of the light in the visual spectrum, whiter than white [tm]
cloth will also convert the ambient UV in sun light to visual frequencies
and add that to the perceived luminosity. Try this with Black Light 
illumination (in nostalgic discos, frinstance).

|>		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
|>      "Brothers, sisters, we don't need this fascist sheepdog thang"

       Till Poser         Internet: poser@vxdsyc.desy.de
-F35- ZEUS DESY/Freiburg  Bitnet:   POSER@DESYVAX
bldg.1b-235, Notkestr.85  Hepnet:   VXDESY::POSER (13313::Poser)
   D-2000 Hamburg 52      Tel.: -49-40-8998-2004
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: wedding peeves
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:50:25 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <5885@catnip.berkeley.ca.us> dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Andre) writes:
~It really sucks after all the work you go through in order to set up
~the tables and folks who say they'll show up don't even bother to attend.
~
~Brain-dead organists who don't pay attention.
~
~Ministers who forget to feed the cue to the organist.
~
~Limos that break down.
~
~Battery packs that die at the most inopportune time.

I assume that the last point is a "wedding NIGHT" peeve, right?




-- 
===Jeremy Henderson===jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk=          

This message cost the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars.
Bloody good value if you ask me.
From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Apostrophe's in all the wrong place's
Date: 16 Dec 1992 18:46:02 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

In article 1gapraINNib7@transfer.stratus.com, scooter@hirgon.hw.stratus.com (Scott Jeffrey) writes:
> This reminds me of a similar peeve of mine:  Signs (usually
> hand-written) with varying capital and lower case lettering.  As in a
> pizza shop for example:  FReNCh FRIeS $.79.

I agree; it works in a ransom note, but not so well in advertising.

But at least in the example you gave, they got the currency symbol
correct.  It bugs me to see "French Fries: .69 [cent symbol]".  How can
you make a profit if you're selling 'em at less than a penny each, you
antinumerical pinhead?

---
Brian Scearce                                           bls@sector7g.eng.sun.com
              The above does not necessarily represent Sun policy.
                  "You can't fit the truth on a t-shirt, man."
                                 "That'd fit."

Xref: sparky alt.peeves:18472 alt.angst:4900
From: rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.angst
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:35:40 GMT
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Dec17.033151.8369@timesink.chi.il.us> harry@timesink.chi.il.us (Harold Platypus) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.101600.7516@merlin.comlab.ox.ac.uk> library@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Riddell) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec12.065144.16244@timesink.chi.il.us> harry@timesink.chi.il.us (Harold Platypus) writes:
>>>In <lier0bINN6p2@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>>
>>I realise it is coming up to Christmas but is there really a need for this
>>obsequiesness. If you want to compliment Drew I suggest you mail direct rather
>>than wasting bandwidth. 
>
>I suggest you try to suck your own disk...


yeah, maybe the third time's a charm. keep this shit out of alt.angst.

bah.



--
		    -just give me what for,
	rachel perkins =  rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu
      coed naked internet grep! always keep your link up!
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: harry@timesink.chi.il.us (Harold Platypus)
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Keywords: scrotum spew anal retentive turds swallow
Organization: Big Bulging Buffalo Bladders -R- Us
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 08:10:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.155849.11485@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> rperkins@astro.as.arizona.edu (Rachel J. Perkins) writes:
>listen, people....this isn't alt.flame. it might be what alt.peeves is 
>for, but not (in my opinion) alt.angst material...could you please
>edit the header and keep this either angstful, or out of alt.angst.
>
>thanks. it's not as if we don't have enough angst about the bitterness
>and cruelty in this world.
>
The world is so unfair! Now you're asking us to leave this cheerful
newsgroup just so you can see things filed neatly where they belong.
Seems pretty anal retentive to me... (am I the only one who thought
that meant saving your turds?)

By the way Rachel, do you swallow? If so, I'd like to meet and roll
around in chocolate pudding together on a waterbed mattress... Yum!
- Harry
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: From Bad To Wort (Was: Tea time)
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:10:42 GMT

<In article <18118@autodesk.COM> booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:

<   Peeve: Tea that has to be boiled and treated strangely. I went to a store
<   and picked up some herb tea. The ingredients looked very tasty. It had
<   cinnamon, clove, carob and other stuff. I happily purchased it and toted it
<   home. It had to be boiled for 30 minutes.

<   That will teach me for not finishing reading the label.

	Get JG to move in, she can show you how to fix that up.
	First, throw out all that cinnamon, clove, fake-chocolate
	stuff. Then put some decent hopped malt in. Boil for
	just a little longer than 30 minutes and you've got
	a mighty decent tea.

ObPeeve: you have to bottle this tea and wait for 3 weeks or
	more to drink it.
From: dean@nms4.network.com (Dean C. Gahlon)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: this is great!
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:55:13 GMT
Reply-To: dean@nms4.UUCP (Dean C. Gahlon)
Distribution: na
Organization: Network Systems Corporation, Mpls., MN

In article <1992Dec16.033955.3382@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:
>!Peeve:  Jesse "The Body" Ventura.  Whadda guy!  And a former Navy SEAL, to
>         boot!
>
>"This stuff'll make ya a goddam sexual tyrannosaurus, like me!" - JTBV

Hey! You're talking about the mayor here where I work. 

(Brooklyn Park, MN, where Jesse is Mayor.

Is this a great country, or what?)
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More nomenclature (was Bleeding heart liberals)
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:43:17 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

I wonder how many people remember that the Stanford Cardinal haven't 
always been called the Stanford Cardinal.  

The last school that I went was UCSC where the mascot is the banana slug
which is of course offensive to gastropods everywhere.
-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.angst
From: sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay)
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Followup-To: alt.peeve,alt.flame,alt.get.the.hell.out.of.our.group
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:52:08 GMT

In article <lj193hINNequ@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
[Lots of "I know you are but what am I?" juvenile bullshit]

>>Alot like your auto-sex you mean - as you jack your joker into your
>>pillow and mop up the mess with your skid marked jockey shorts. Do
>>you suck them clean after?
>
>Well, you get *my* nomination for the Unclear on the Concept award
>this week.  The point, HP, was to draw analogies that even you could
>understand.  Your reply reads like an instruction guide for the
>recently pubescent, not relevant commentary.

Look BOYZ, take this elsewhere okay?--I'm getting a little sick of your
whiny 3rd-grade crap....

----Steve
-- 
---------
sokay@cyclone.mitre.org
		"Your Mind....My Playground" ---me
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: The Other Side of the Chanukka Bush
Keywords: hohoho, rudolf, moishe, treeworship, saturnalia
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:27:13 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <92Dec14.155559.18702@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>I think I'm done now.
>
>Oh, my coworker wants to add something:
>
>Happy holi....Erk Arghhhh gurgle gasp. klunk.
>
>Sorry people, but she won't be bothering you again.

Can you "do" Sun employees?  If so, email geoffm@purplehaze.ebay.sun.com...

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home   bbxrbk!russ@bbx.basis.com
Will hack unix for food
From: mzraly@ra.cs.umb.edu (Michael S Zraly)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Work peeves
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:35:44 GMT
Organization: UMass/Boston

donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
> [ peeve about being interrupted while very busy ]

May I infer then that another Peeve is not being able to leave your desk
to work at some secluded spot away from phones and other interruptions?

ObPeeve: The minority count-down as Clinton's nominations for the Cabinet
	 are announced.  Can we just say that he'll beat James Watt's "a
	 black, a cripple, and a Jew" and be done with it?

ObPeeve: Some idiot is going to flame me for repeating that line...

-- 
Mike Zraly		If you give me six lines written by the most honest
mzraly@cs.umb.edu	man, I will find something in them to hang him.
				-- Cardinal Richilieu
From: yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Get your fucking acts in gear
Date: 11 Dec 1992 15:03:40 -0500
Organization: Yale Computer Science Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: cathy.na.cs.yale.edu

dennis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Thomas A. Dennis) writes:

>For me, the great !peeve regarding _Malcolm X_ was this:  I wasn't bored at
>all throughout this three-hour-plus film the way I usually am during movies
>half its length.

Come on, Tom.  Surely even you can think up something more sensible to say
than "The film was good because it didn't bore me."  That's on the
intellectual level of saying "I liked the film because I liked the film",
and almost as meaningless.  Do you think we know what bores you?

>  I used to worry about my short attention span, until I
>figured out the REAL problem [ObPeeve]:  film-makers who have no grasp of
>story-telling techniques whatsoever, and try to substitute a few plot-twists
>instead.

"I used to worry about my idiocy, until I figured out the REAL problem:
film-makers who make films which are too complicated for me."

Uh, right.

--
Norman Yarvin						yarvin@cs.yale.edu
 "Rascal: A fool considered under another aspect." -- _The Devil's Dictionary_
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: What's in a name (was Re: Milquetoast
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<Bz41EI.M2y@vcd.hp.com>
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:21:59

"Jean-Claude Twanger" opines:
>Pete Young writes:
>
>>FrenchPeeve: In France, you are presented with an approved list of
names
>>when you register the birth of your sprog. If the you want isn't on
>>the list, tough! You have to chose one that is.
>
>So, did "Adolf" and "Benito" make the list?  This list seems like such
a
>French thing to do.

Up here, in the Land Where Trolls Are Not Cute, the system goes the
other way.  There is a list of names that you may _not_ give your kid,
for fear the kid will be traumatized for life.  Curiously, Vidkun, as
in Quisling (*), is not on the list.  The name register people are
also supposed to yank any names that are not on the list but which
they feel are "inappropriate".  So, although Odd is a perfectly normal
Norwegian name, and Even is a p.n.N.n., if you try to name twin boys
Odd and Even you may be told to rename one of 'em.

[(*) As i write this, i feel a strong urge to tell Geoff that he's
dead, too.]

ObPeeve: Trying to keep a straight face when adressing a fellow i know
who likes the nickname "Oddy" (short for Oddvar).

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway