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From: hunter@iastate.edu (The Hunter)
Subject: Re: CD packaging
Keywords: jewel box
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 03:38:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.153321.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fscll@acad3.alaska.edu (Chris Lott) writes:
>In article <13APR199214283941@arecibo.aero.org>, terwill@arecibo.aero.org (Bill who?) writes:
>> For years (yeah, years) environmentalists have been asking
>> when the "environmentally aware" music industry is going to do
>> something about the excessive and non-degradable packaging that
>> CD's come in.
      [details deleted]
>> Cindy's boss,
>> Bill

>
>If you look in the last issue of Rolling Stone (I think it's the last.. it's
>the one with Axl Rose on the cover) then you will see big write-up that they
>FINALLY made  a real decision to get rid of the large packages.
  [more stuff deleted]

>2) The paper materials are only half the question, there is also the question
>about what to do about the jewel-box... everyone wants to save the landfills
>from the plastic, but a lot of people protestr paying for cd's and getting a
>flimsy paper or cardboard container. 

>Anyway, there was a decision made, and the long box is finally going.. the
>jewel box question is still being decided... I am happy to see the decision
>buit I am not sure about the jewel box issue.. I would like to see something a
>little better than the crappy cardboard covers if I am going to save my cd's
>and transport them, etc... 

Definately keep the jewel-box.  Look at it this way, you could save
a little trash in your landfill without a jewel box, but without a jewel
box to protect your CD's, which are supposed to last forever, you'd need
to replace your unprotected CD's.  In the end, eliminating the jewel box
would cause more trouble than what it's worth.

LONG LIVE THE JEWEL-BOX!!!!!

Signed,
The Hunter

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From: martin@specialix.co.uk (Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Glastonbury 1992
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:29:48 GMT
Organization: Specialix International, London



Taken from the advert in Q Magazine,

      Glastonbury Festival of Contemporary Performing Arts
                       26-27-28 June 1992

Musical performers include:

- three headline acts that we can't announce yet -

Buddy Guy - Carter USM - Primal Scream - The Levellers - The Fall
Shakespears Sister - Curve - The Shamen - Teenage Fan Club
Ned's Atomic Dustbin - Blur - Youssou N'Dour - Hugh Masekela
Manu Dibango - Billy Bragg - The Blue Aeroplanes - Chris Whitley
House of Love - New Model Army - RDF - Richard Thompson - Runrig
Daisy Chainsaw - Saw Doctors - The Senseless Things - Television - Cud
Gary Clail - PJ Harvey - The Orb - Flowered Up - Bates Motel

and of course there's the Theatre and Circus stuff too.

Tickets 49 pounds incl. camping and car parking.



Q mentions the name Lou Reed in a separate part of the magazine so
perhaps he's one of the three unnamed.

Martin
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: jeremyl@screech.owlnet.rice.edu (Jeremy Lyn Hart)
Subject: Re: Who sings "We're Going Straight to Hell"
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 16:12:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.185831.14645@unvax.union.edu>, budkee@unvax.union.edu (Eric Budke) writes:
> I'm not sure of the song title, but I've heard it at a couple of parties
> We're going straight to hell,
> Just like my ma said we would
> 
> I think this is how it goes, but I was under the influence at the time.

I've only heard it a few times myself (done acoustic by friends),
but I *think* it's Drivin' and Cryin'.  Don't quote me on that, tho'...

Later.
-- 
Jeremy L. Hart				jeremyl@owlnet.rice.edu
"As opaque warriors, we ride alone
 Guarding our secrets with souls of stone
 Waiting for someone who holds the key
 Do you hold it...do you hold the key to my heart..."
	- "Apache Teardrops," copyright 1991 by Bill Fillbach and Steve Estes
From: stahl@neptune.iex.com (Kevin Stahl)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: TMBG Apollo 18 CD Mastering.
Keywords: European Issue
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:47:53 GMT
Organization: iex
Originator: stahl@neptune.iex.com


In article <1992Apr8.100055.1742@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, irelanda@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Charlie Brown) writes:
|> I bought Apollo 18, and really wanted to hear what fingertips would be like.
|> Unfortunately the track listing was only 18 Tracks,  not  the 38 as expected
|> from the cover of the cd.
|> 
|> The liner notes say that the disk was mastered at Masterdisc NYC, and that the
|> "Music on this CD has been placed with reference to Modern CD players with the
|> Shuffle function".
|> 
|> does the American version of the CD have all 38 tracks?
|> I was disappointed with my copy, of only 18 tracks.  Great Music though!
|> 

I bought my copy here in the US and it *does* have all 38 tracks... (Come on...and
wreck my car!).  Too bad about your copy, although I have some friends who purchased
a copy of "Nevermind" from a Best Buy in town (a chain electronics discounter) and the
last "mystery song" was missing from their copies.  We looked at the discs and compared them
to mine and theirs were pressed somewhere else... Maybe that explains why they got
them for $4 less than I paid at Sound Warehouse.

A side question:  I am a big fan of TMBG, but it takes me about 2 or 3 times through
the album before I really get into their songs.  Does anyone else share this problem?
Their music is so quirky it takes a little time for the songs to grow on me.
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Subject: Re: Suaron and other Assholes
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:57:48 GMT

The best way of treating metalhead wannabees like this is to put them
in your kill file.  Then you'll never have to see *anything* that they
post!

*REAL* metalheads listen to *REAL* music.  Get a life!
From: apfelbrianje@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: WANTED: DOKKEN NoES3 SOUNDTRACK
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:08:36 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Does anyone out there have the Nightmare On Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors
SOUNDTRACK, by Dokken, on cassette?  If you're willing to sell it, please
e-mail me.

--BJA


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: se020151@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok Lee)
Subject: Re: For all you Sinead fans
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:53:30 GMT

: 
: Yeah. Original too. Thanks for sharing your insightful views on one of the most
: creative artists in rock 'n' roll (yes, I do consider Sinead to be rock 'n
: roll) today.  Creativity is apparently something YOU understand well given the
: level of intelligence demonstrated above.
: 
: NOT!
: 
: "Nothing Compares 2U" aside (it's not even HER song), Sinead's sheer intensity
: and incisiveness blows away whatever cretinous wretchedness produced the
: above drivel.  Like flicking a booger.  
: 
: -Bruce
: 
: ----------------------------------------------------------
: "No longer mad like a horse, I'm still wild but not lost
:  From the thing that I've chosen to be..."
: 			-Sinead O'Connor 
: ----------------------------------------------------------
:                                               
 I must totally agree with you.  Besides her musical talents, I think
she is a beautiful woman.  I think her bald head is so sexy. I just
imagine that there's a nipple on the top of her head and her whole
head is one big tit.  I want to stick my dick in her arrogant mouth
until I'm about to come and I want to pull at the last minute and
come all over her head.  Then I would rub the come in like scalp
conditioner and let it dry.

Maybe then she would see the light and stop trashing everyone she
doesn't like.  She should see that the true god of music is El Duce.

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From: becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Three Greatest Consecutive Albums
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:08:12 GMT
Organization: UB

sminsk@.stern.nyu.edu (Seth Minsk) writes:


>   There was recently a thread going about three greatest songs in a row on
>an album.  OK, in a similar vein, how about three greatest consecutive albums
>by any particular group/artists?  Just a couple suggested rules:
>1) PLEASE consult some kind of discography before posting about a group!
>2) Live and compilation albums don't count as breaking up a sequence of
>consecutive albums.

Marillion: Script For A Jester's Tear
	   Fugazi
	   Misplaced Childhood

Pink Floyd: Animals
	    The Wall
	    The Final Cut

Queensryche: Rage For Order
	     Operation: Mindcrime
	     Empire

--Don

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
From: jlwoodal@garcia.warfield.edu 
Subject: Re: YESYEARS Question
Organization: Solar Federation
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:31:20 GMT

>I also prefer the ABWH album to Union -- it was more Yeslike than
>anything put out by "Yes" recently.  Has anyone heard anything regarding
>new music currently in the works by these people?  And will it be a
>"Yes" album, ABWH, or some entirely new configuration?


*ACH!*  Ok, lets get it straight.  The ABWH album was by a band named
ABWH.  Union was by a band named Yes.  THEREFORE Union is more "Yes-like".
I don't give a shit what Yes used to sound like, what matters is the
sound they have NOW.  How would you like it if everyone excpected YOU
to be like you were 20 years ago.  Life would suck, wouldn't it?
What is "Yes"?  Well, for ME, if it says "Yes", its Yes.  People
come and go, and the sound changes, but YES=YES.


Jeff
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd
Date: 11 Apr 92 21:33:18 GMT
Organization: UB

disc5e6@rosie.uh.edu (92S00302) writes:

>In article <1992Apr11.072923.15111@acsu.buffalo.edu>, becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes...
>>rone@skat.usc.edu (Ron A. Echeverri) writes:
>> 
>>>Is there a Pink Floyd album besides "The Final Cut" in which there is not at
>>>least one instrumental track? 
>> 
>>Meddle
>>Wish You Were Here
>>Animals
>> 
>>None of these have instrumentals.
>> 
>>--Don

>   None of those have instumentals?  Since when....
>Meddle is one of the most instumental albums of all.
>First it has "One of these days" .  With only  the one line
>"one of these days I'm going to chop...." it can hardly be called
>anything but an instumental.  Esspecially since this line is not sung.

OK...Got me there. :)

>If "ECHOES" has any lyrics I'd sure like to know cause I've always thought
>of it as a half-hour instumental.

Well, since Echoes is not split into nine different parts, it's hard to
consider it to be an instrumental track.

Lyrics to echoes are available via ftp from syrinx.umd.edu in floyd/lyrics
and from cs.uwp.edu in pub/music/lyrics/files/pink.floyd

>And while technically Wish you Were Here has no instumentals , 
>"Shine on you crazy Diamond" has nine parts and most of these are
>instrumentals.

Well, if you want to nitpick... :)

--Don

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:28:41 GMT

becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes:

>In article <ktv4teINNbm8@corvus.usc.edu> rone@corvus.usc.edu (Man on a Mission) writes:
>>Hey ya'll.  I was curious: I can imagine why PF didn't play songs from "The
>>Final Cut" in their last tour, but why didn't they play stuff from "Animals"?
>>Good album, although the songs are a bit long... is the social agenda thingy
>>passe or something?
>>
>According to the Nick Schaffner book, they did consider "Sheep", but scratched
>it.

Assuming we are talking about the "Delicate Sound of Thunder" tour, then
they did perform some stuff from Animals, at least in Australia. I remember
"Sheep", "Pigs" and "Pigs on the Wing" all being performed.

Saw it three times. It was great.

Terry.


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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: alib@IASTATE.EDU (Richard A Brown)
Subject: Vivian Campbell joins Def Leppard
Keywords: Def Leppard
Reply-To: alib@IASTATE.EDU (Richard A Brown)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 11:09:22 GMT

The Des Moines Register reported yesterday that Vivian Campbell
has joined Def Leppard.

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From: Kamchatka Charlie
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Top ten alternative G'n'R names (was Re: Axl Rose Sucks)
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:24:35 GMT
Organization: Psychosis Unlimited International

Richard A Brown writes:
>There seem to be enough Guns 'n' Roses haters here to make this
>an interesting thread...
>Just for fun, what are your favorite alternative names for
>G'n'R (if we get more than ten, we can talk about a top ten list)?
>
>I have heard:
>
>Duds and Losers
>Puds and Posers
>Runny Noses
>Prunes and Raisins
>
>Anyone?

I used to call them "Buns and Poseis" before I found out they were a good band.

kamchatka charlie
kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu
From: haskell@acsu.buffalo.edu (William W. Haskell)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Three Greatest Consecutive Albums
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:38:05 GMT
Organization: UB

How about...

	Crystal Ball
	The Grand Illusion
	Pieces of Eight

		by Styx?


						...wildy
From: bostrov@eris.wtfd.orst.edu (Vareck Bostrom)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Def Leppard is better than Slayer
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:05:59 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University - Univ. Computing Services

James Bender writes
> References: <92103.171123TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu>  
<92103.194548BMK112@psuvm.psu.edu>
> Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
> >
> >>Look at Pour Some Sugar on Me
> 
> 	Hey, Sauron, I am a guitar player, and I am pretty good, but the 
> begining of Pour Some Sugar on Me is HARD! I had trouble getting it to sound
> right the first 100 times I tried. And I even had the benifit of sheet music.
> You better know what your talking about next time before you let the shit  
spill
> out of your mouth!

Not to take sides here, but a 15 year olds band down my block plays 
pour some sugar on me, without the vocals, close enough to how the band 
plays it that I can't tell the difference. 

I like Slayer a lot, but some of the jokes about Slayer knowing only
four riffs seems to be true. Slayer fans (at least myself) aren't concerned
as much with quality as with speed, though at Clash of the Titans in
Portland last year (the last time I saw slayer) they did some good work. 
I expect that Slayer could match Def Leppard with out much trouble,
but Def Leppard would have to do some work to match Slayer. Hell, think
of "Jesus Saves".. at CotT Tom was shouting those words faster than most
people can _think_, and his band was keeping up. It was impressive.
From: farmern@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Neil Farmer)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: >>U2 dates Europe - Info wanted...
Summary: has anyone any info on the U2 dates in Europe and the ticket sales
Keywords: U2 tour dates Europe
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:35:10 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

in reply to u9njj@uk.ac.york.ohm

In alt.rock-n-roll you write:

>The U2 dates in the Uk were supposed to have been released on 4th
>April, though this has been set back a week due to the previously
>known release of the Michael Jackson date at Leeds Roundhay Park.

>Hence, it looks as though it could be anytime from Fri-Sun next
>week. I have also had the UK dates confirmed from other sources.



>                                       nik


do you know the dates yet?
I have heard that there will be gigs in London arround the 10th May,
Sheffield @17May and Glasgow @18May -- SECC?
Do you know any more as i would realy like to see U2 again, saw them
at Wembly the last time they toured the UK and they were excelent!
How can i be sure of getting tickets?
Any info would be great,
cheers,

Neil Farmer.
<farmern@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: bandwen@eagle.larc.nasa.gov (bando)
Subject: Performers who can't hear
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:17:20 GMT


Is it true that Alex Van Halen is 90% deaf in one ear or something like 
that?  I know Pete Toownshend has lost a significant amount of hearing
also.  How do these performers keep their "musical ear" when they've
played live for so long and at such a high decible level without any
protection?--Just curious
--Bando
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple Moriji)
Subject: Re: For all you Sinead fans
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:29:28 GMT


se020151@seas.gwu.edu (Hyok Lee) writes:
:
:  I must totally agree with you.  Besides her musical talents, I think
: she is a beautiful woman.  I think her bald head is so sexy. I just
: imagine that there's a nipple on the top of her head and her whole
: head is one big tit.  I want to stick my dick in her arrogant mouth
: until I'm about to come and I want to pull at the last minute and
: come all over her head.  Then I would rub the come in like scalp
: conditioner and let it dry.

What the fuck is your problem, Hyok?  Is sex the only thing you
think about?  Well then again, Sinead must not be that different
from your own girlfriend.  You've obviously aquired a bad taste in
women from listening to too much poser music like Motley Crue,
Gloria Estefan, Ratt, and Harry Connick Jr.

: Maybe then she would see the light and stop trashing everyone she
: doesn't like.  She should see that the true god of music is El Duce.

What's this talk about El Duce and the Mentors?  They are a band that
makes fun of the poser image.  Have you ever heard of the song called
"Get Up and Die?"  The lyrics goes like this: "Cinderella, Motley
Crue, and Poison -- I wanna run them over with a steamroller yeah!"

And BTW, Sinead O'Connor is an ugly bitch from hell, and should
be eliminated from the face of this earth.  I can't stand her
balad "Nothing Compares To You."  Why is that skinhead trying to
sing a balad?  Because she wants to make millions and millions of
dollars and fuck all these muscular men that she could never get
to sleep with her before.

If you guys are so much into skinheads, you should check out
Scott Ian of Anthrax.  He can write music and mosh, unlike Sinead
who just dances around the stage singing her poser songs.

C++ ya,

Maple

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From: wggabb@sdrc.COM (Rob Gabbard)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: VH's "316"...
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:30:23 GMT
Organization: SDRC, Cincinnati

From article <92087.090551BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu>, by BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu:
> Does anyone know what the origin/meaning/significance of the number "316"is
> from the instrumental song of the same name off "For...Knowledge"???

March 16th was the birthdate of Eddie & Val's son Wolfgang.

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From: fssrk1@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: TMBG and my dying friend
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:25:03 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

I have this good friend Chris George, recently he was in a car
accident.  He is a big fan of They Might be Giants.  I would like to 
know if anyone out there  has any promotional items to give away
he might die.
Please help me.
email me please
he might die
From: stcmille@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (Stephen C. Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Adrien Belew
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:49:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr15.175000.27477
Organization: Indiana University

Just caught Adrien Belew here in Bloomington - I think he's on some kind
of longish tour.

He was really great.  His band is tight as hell.  His song selection is
good and he is in top form.

The only unfortunate thing is, his songs really aren't all that great or
interesting, and his words are highly dumb.  He manages to save them
with guitar unique guitar virtuosity.  In a way he needs someone to tell
him what to do - someone like the Talking Heads or Robert Fripp, people
with whom he's done some of his best work.

But, critique aside, this tour is worth catching.
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