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From: bwilliam@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams)
Subject: Re: Will 6.0.8 run on Powerbook 100?
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:13:14 GMT

There is a simple two instruction modification to resource PTCH 0 that
will let the system 6.0.8L work on **ALL POWERBOOKS** I tested the hack on
a PB 160 myself. Dave may have to modify his post stating that that
powerbook (and others) cannot run ANY version of system 6. It can run a
hacked 6.0.8L just fine and give you back over a megabytre of precious RAM!!

Not to mention performance.

--- Bill Williams
From: A.G.Poole@newcastle.ac.uk (Alex Poole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: SuperClock 4.0.1 oddities.
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:59:29 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


Hmmm.. you think you've got problems...
I've got two separate copies of SC 4.0.1, from two sites, one in .cpt and one .sit.
Both display the same behaviour:

On a Mac Plus 4MB, 52MB external drive...
SC crashes on startUp (Unimplemented trap)
If opened when not installed (ie not present at startUp, but opened from disk later), 
the main window is opened, but clicking on any of the settings crashes with the same error.

I've tried turning off all other extensions/control panels etc, but I get the same problem. Any ideas? Is this a bug or my system? Is it possible that both copies were taken from a machines where it was set up oddly... maybe expecting colour or something?

Any help greatly appreciated...

Alex
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From: trillo@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Sys 7.1 and ATM in Europe
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:24:56 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland

So, for a lot of reason, I buy Sys 7.1. I won't tell
you how much it cost in Swiss, but it's simply crazy!
Anyway, in the read me file, I saw the offer for the
new version of ATM 3.0 for 30 Swiss Francs, and the
statement that this version will work with the Fonts
folder.
So, I pick up the phone and ordered it at Adobe in
England (Pardon, Scotland).
And I received yesterday my ATM 2.0.3, with a nice
ad that say, to all Sys 7.1 users, that they have
to put the outline fonts in the Extension Folder...
I call Adobe, and they told me that ATM 2.0.3 is the
more recent version, and that they don't know of any
new release...
Nice, really nice.
So, be very carefull with this offer, since probably
to get the new version, Adobe will ask you to pay some
more upgrading money...
Wait for your opinions and/or suggestion.

Giulio
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru)
Subject: Re: GrayShare and the "old" StyleWriter
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Reply-To: arie@eecs.umich.edu
Organization: AI Lab, The University of Michigan
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:53:45 GMT

>>>>> On 7 Jan 93 23:16:31 GMT, Apgar@Apple.com (Gar) said:

| In article <1993Jan7.154947.1065@unine.ch>,
| Gabriel.Sigrist@etudiants.unine.ch wrote:
|> 
|> 
|> Will GrayShare work with the original StyleWriter (and with other ink-jet
|> printers) ?

| No. As far as I can tell it's driver specific.


| Apgar@Apple.com   |   Eric Apgar  alias  Gar   |   I said it, NOT Apple.

Can someone elaborate on how the GrayShare software and the StyleWriter II
will work in a network environment? I don't understand from the press
release how will the StyleWriter be connected to the Mac, i.e. as an
AppleTalk device or as a serial device.
--


Arie.

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| Arie Covrigaru                 |  University of Michigan AI Lab       |
| Phone: (313)994-8887           |  Room 149, Advanced Technology Bldg. |
| Internet: arie@eecs.umich.edu  |  1101 Beal Ave., Ann Arbor, MI 48109 |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dave@vfl.paramax.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Subject: Folder From Hell and no FAQ?
Organization: Paramax Systems
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:48:25 GMT


I've got a Folder From Hell, and I can't find the FAQ list for this
newsgroup.

I've tried a number of simple things, like Disk First Aid, Norton
Utilities, and trying to replace it with a folder of the same name.
Awhile back someone posted a way to search the disk for the folder
name followed by 0010 0000 XXXX, and replace the XXXX with 0000,
but this was in 1990 (pre-System 7), and I'm not sure if I dare try
this under System 7 -- any comments?

I'm not all that surprised Apple hasn't fixed this problem yet, but
I am a little surprised that Norton Disk Doctor doesn't take care
of it.

Somewhere there must be a FAQ listing the dozens of things people
have tried to trash the Folder From Hell.  Can someone please point
me to it?

Thanks.

  -- dave@vfl.paramax.com -- If my header says otherwise, it lies.

"We trained hard, but it seemed that every time we were beginning to
form up into teams, we would be reorganized.  I was to learn later in
life that we tend to meet any new situation by reorganizing; and a
wonderful method it can be for creating the illusion of progress while
producing confusion, inefficiency, and demoralization."
	--Petronius Arbiter, 210 BC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: eepmatt@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Matthew Friedman)
Subject: Can you salvage damaged suitcases?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:53:25 GMT


I've got a couple of damaged font suitcases that won't open, or allow 7.1 to
have access to them when placed in the Fonts folder. Is there a way to salvage
any of the contents?

Thanks,
Matt

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| "Mrs. Shaw was another acquaintance who was not quite a friend... but  |
| much closer than either his father or his mother. Mrs. Shaw was honest,|
| at least. She didn't dance. It all went on the bill at the end of the  |
| month, and she always cut the crusts off the sandwiches."              |
|                                      -The Waste Lands, by Stephen King |
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From: Treble@asc.slb.com (John Treble)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Sad Mac Error codes
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 25 Jan 1993 14:20:32 GMT
Organization: ASC-Austin
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: asc438.asc.slb.com


> Code     Meaning
> 01XXXX   ROM test
> 02XXXX   RAM test-bus subtest
> 03XXXX   RAM test-byte write
> 04XXXX   RAM test-mod3 test
> 05XXXX   RAM test-address uniqueness

Oh, yeah, I forgot to show you how to figure out which memory chip was
failing by decifering the code!  The last four digits supposedly indicate
which of sixteen chips in a memory bank is bad. Remember that some Macs
have eight memory SIMM slots.  Each SIMM may contain 8 chips (I say MAY
because some manufacturers sold SIMMs with only two 4-bit chips on them). 
So with this error code arrangment, each of the lower four digits
represents 16 data bits in each bank of memory. "Huh?" you say?

Consider this.  A Mac II-class machine with eight SIMM slots.....has an
error code of 030004

If we break out the error code into the hex numbers per memory bank
we get:
   0000 0000 0000 0100 - so in this case we find a failure of data bit 4 in
the
lowest bank of RAM.  Each byte represents sixteen data bits of memory.

Okay, in my 15+ years in engineering, I've only seen one bad memory chip,
and it was a 64K x 1 dynamic memory way back in the early '80's.  It had a
cell stuck at a ONE.  I saved that chip for a long time because at the time
I was writing RAM diagnostics in ASM86!  It sure was nice to try out my
code with an actual bad device instead of sabotaging the board to force a
failure!

In almost every memory problem I've ever seen in a Mac, the repair
consisted of reseating the memory SIMM.  Also, if you are dinking around
with memory, watch out for cracked SIMM sockets.  That can cause much grief
and replacing SIMM sockets without proper equipment (a good solder sucker,
etc) can be a pain.

Good luck in your quest for a repair!  Kudos to Apple for a superior
engineered product--the Macintosh!  I wish I worked in the Apple
engineering group!

treble@asc.slb.com "My humble, but accurate, opinion does not necessarily
reflect that of my employer. I get full credit for my insightful and witty
comments!"
From: iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu (Jerry Wilcox)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: SuperClock 4.0.1 oddities.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 22 Jan 1993 18:50:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Office of the President
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ajax.ucop.edu

In article <C19DJ6.DH7@newcastle.ac.uk>, A.G.Poole@newcastle.ac.uk (Alex
Poole) wrote:
> 
> On a Mac Plus 4MB, 52MB external drive...
> SC crashes on startUp (Unimplemented trap)
If I recall correctly, there was some mention earlier of a bug in SC 4.0.1
that wouldn't allow it to be run on 68000 machines, like the Plus.
-----------
Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu
All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
University wanted me to speak for it.
From: wilmott@remus.rutgers.edu (ray wilmott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: ?? on new macs and 7.1
Date: 23 Jan 93 20:55:59 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

>If your getting a IIvx, you can't use 7.0.1. You're stuck with 7.1

A bit premature, but has anyone heard about the forthcoming LC-III?
I'm looking to buy a Mac and am eagerly awaiting release of this
new machine. But if it REQUIRES the use of 7.1, then I'm gonna have
to pass on it. (I've seen 7.1 and am very unimpressed).
From: truesdel@ics.uci.edu (Scott Truesdell)
Subject: Re: MS Word/Quadra incompatibility?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: ICS Department, U.C.I.
Date: 29 Jan 93 05:20:44 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

> > I'm doing _very_ frequent saves and hoping for an answer. Any ideas?
> > Opps - forgot - I'm using Word 5.0
>
>
> I thought it was only me! Same setup (950, Word 5.0), same problem.
> It could be a memory problem, but I'm running Word in a 6 MB partition!

Probably INITs (I mean 'extensions').

Pull them ALL out and see if things work better. If the answer is
yes, then put them back one at a time until you find the bad boy.

Yes, I know... it's tedious...

  --scott
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: HELP! need info on printing postscript via serial
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:58:45 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: swiss.ucs.ubc.ca

FTP to sumex.stanford.edu and get:

info-mac/util/dmm-lw-56-stuff-131.hqx   (for LaserWriter 5.x or 6.x)
info-mac/util/dmm-lw-7-stuff-131.hqx    (for LaserWriter 7.x)

This is excellent (and free) software that provides Installer scripts to
modify the LaserWriter drivers to include many enhancements, including
serial communication support via the printer port or modem port. 

Note, on my Mac (IIci, System 7.1) I had to put the package on my boot
drive (rather than my external drive) to get the serial support installer
script to work. Your mileage may vary, but any quirks you run into are
almost certainly the fault of Apple's Installer program (it's too picky
and tempermental).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Tom Thatcher)
Subject: Why does my system grow?
Reply-To: smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:33:59 GMT

I have noticed something recently,

I have a Classic II running system 7.0.1*tune-up with a few various
INITs and CDEVs to keep it interesting.  When I start up, the system
uses about 1200K of RAM.  But after a few hours, or after leaving it on
overnight, the system seems to grow to 1500K.  If I restart, of course,
its back to normal.

Can anyone tell me why this happens, and does system 7.1 fix it?

Thanks
Tom Thatcher
smt1179@ritvax.isc.rit.edu


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^ "A keyboard.  How quaint."                    ^  Tom Thatcher
^  Scotty, to a Mac Plus, in Star Trek IV       ^  University of Rochester
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: og@access.digex.com (Gary Goldberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.1 + CD-ROM 4.0.1 => NO Audio CD
Date: 24 Jan 1993 23:49:09 -0500
Organization: Order? Just a small bureaucracy really. (DIGEX)
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1993Jan19.091114.3869@nic.csu.net> marc@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (Marc Matteo) writes:
:Whew, I'm glad it's not just me!  CD 4.0.2 and sys 7.1 kills your sound too.
:I'm also running AccessPC and, yes, it asks to format the CD.  With AccessPC
:removed the CDs will play but randomly bomb :(.
:Anyone?

I'm running a CD300 external, 4.0.2 CD driver, System 7.1 on a 20MB IIcx with
no apparent problems. Audio CDs work great. - Gary

-- 
- Gary Goldberg og@access.digex.com Bowie, MD KA3ZYW

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: terjer@ifi.unit.no (Terje Rydland)
Subject: Re: MS Word/Quadra incompatibility?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: IfI, UNIT-AVH
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 08:18:33 GMT

In article <36476@twics.co.jp>, darrell@twics.co.jp wrote:
> 
> re awaegel's question:
> > Is there a compatibility problem between MS Word 4.0 and Quadras?
> > (sys 7.0.1, tuneup 1.1.1) I get a "The Application has unexpectedly quit"
> msg,
> > or, more commonly, the app simply shuts down immediately. It runs fine on
> > identically configured Mac IIci's.
> 
> I have exactly the same problem on my Quadra 950, though it seems intermittent.
> I'm doing _very_ frequent saves and hoping for an answer. Any ideas?
> Opps - forgot - I'm using Word 5.0



I thought it was only me! Same setup (950, Word 5.0), same problem.
It could be a memory problem, but I'm running Word in a 6 MB partition! 




Terje Rydland
Dept. of Informatics, UNIT, Trondheim, Norway
Internet : terjer@ifi.unit.no
AppleLink: NOR0103
From: tnakada@eis.calstate.edu (Tom Nakada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Mouse Pointer Size Doubled!
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:17:52 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

gunther@world.std.com (Gunther W Anderson) writes:
> One of my people here has managed somehow to double the size (both horizon-
> tally and vertically, so I guess it's actually quadrupled) of all her mouse
> pointers.  The watch is just a straight pixel magnification, but the arrow
> still has smooth edges, even though it too is twice as big.
> 
> The system involved is a Mac SE with a Radius Full Page display.  She's
> running System 6.0.5.  I believe that the problem lies with the Radius
> card, but nothing in the Radius software says anything about mouse pointer
> sizes.  And naturally no one here has seen the manuals in years.  We
> apparently had and fixed the problem in the past, before I came on board,
> but no one remembers how.
> 
> Please help.  Followup articles or e-mail are both just fine.
> 
> 						Gunther

I believe it's either the Radius INIT/cdev that allows the pointer to
change to a larger size. If it's not there go to the Monitors cdev and
click on the options button and you should be able to change it from there.

Cheers!

Tom
tnakada@eis.calstate.edu
From: ceg@nova3.stanford.edu (Chris Gronbeck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Quadra-950 freezes up. Any answers?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 18:26:53 GMT
Organization: Int'l. Inst. for Energy Conservation
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nova3.stanford.edu

In article <sturges-280193073711@bigq.lds-az.loral.com> sturges@master.lds-az.loral.com (Jim Sturges) writes:
>In article <1jujkrINNce0@news.uni-paderborn.de>, jerry@uni-paderborn.de
>(Gerald Siek) wrote:
>> 
>> massey@travis.llnl.gov wrote:
>> : Does anyone know why quitting an application would cause a quadra-950 to 
>> : freeze up? It doesn't seem to be application specific, almost any app. can 
>> : randomly cause it to happen. The problem seems to be indifferent to which 
>> : inits are loaded or if the processor cache is on. Virtual memory is off and 
>> : 32-bit addressing is enabled. I've also seen the same machine freeze up just 
>> : as a result of mouse activity but this is much more rare.
>> 
>> I've encountered a similar problem a few weeks ago.  My 950 sometimes hangs
>> for about 20-30 seconds, sometimes when quitting applications, always when
>> working with my compiler (THINK C).  The problem does not occur after
>> booting with shift key down.   Have you tried this?   I have already re-
>> installed the system, toggled all parameters like VM, cache etc. and removed
>> all INITs and CPs.   I'm not sure whether this could be a new virus or just
>> one of those nice new Quadra features.
>> 
>Just to add to the chorus:
>
>Mine has the same sort of symptoms, PLUS the additional feature of
>providing a "Bus Error" notification from time to time. The latter is
>accompanied by the one-choice option to restart. I *think* that my
>SUM Shield is being activated, since when I click in the "restart" button,
>the disks all whir for awhile. This all while running 7.01 without
>tuneup or 7.1 [which won't accept my CD-ROM driver. sigh....]
>
>Jim Sturges                                       MS 8612
>602 925-7204                                Loral Defense Systems --
>Arizona
>602 925-6988 Fax                         P.O. Box 85
>sturges@master.lds-az.loral.com    1300 S. Litchfield Rd.
>CIS: 72470,3117                             Goodyear-Avondale, AZ  85338

I turned off all extensions and file sharing on my Q700 after experiencing
30 seconds of disk I/O in several circumstances (starting applications,
trying to read PICT files, sometimes on startup) and occasional freeze-ups,
and I still have the problems.  It is a recent phenomenon, and I cannot
trace it to anything except possibly for using StuffIt.  I have checked to
make sure that the files are not compressed that I am trying to access.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Christopher Gronbeck
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: cwagner@bluemoon.use.com (Chuck Wagner)
Subject: FTPing
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:28:29 EST


    Ok,  first I am new to this internet thing.  I have a question about 
FTP.  I have access to internet over our vax at my job.  And I usually use 
my mac to get my mail and that stuff.  My question is this I have no idea 
how to get the files off of a remote computer, what do I need or need to 
know?  Is this the right place.  I have played around on the vax but I am 
still lost.  And the residant computer expert is about as helpful as my 
desk.  I am looking for help or books/referance.

                Thanks,
                   Chuck Wagner


 This is from
     cwagner@bluemoon.use.com
who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Where are folder icons stored?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 07:57:26 GMT

In article <C1E7AL.49t@wolves.Durham.NC.US> ggw@wolves.durham.nc.us writes:
>I've checked IM I-VI, and there doesn't seem to be an easy answer.
>
>I made a custom icon for my System Folder (the blessed folder) using
>ResEdit, and cut and paste and it looks okay, except that the system
>seems to have picked up the icl4 icon rather than the icl8 icon to use.
>
>I see in IMM VI that file custom icons are stored in the resouce fork
>with a particular resouce ID number, but it doesn't say boo about where
>the picture or Icon resources are kept for folders!
>
>Since folders are also files (generally) there is obviously some way for
>the system itself to potentially open the resouce fork of a folder file,
>but ResEdit doesn't seem to want to play with the custom icons attached
>to a folder (heck, it won't even admit to haveing any concept of the
>folder being a file! Recent version 2.1.?)
>
>I've played around a bit with Norton Disk Editor and SUM II (its
>predecessor) and can't seem to locate the bit patterns or resources on
>disk even!   (I know the file # for the folder file, but the disk
>editors don't provide a linkage to the blocks of the file from the file
>definition!
>
>So, are the custom Icons for a folder stored in the resouce fork of the
>folder file?   Are they stored in the desktop databases?   I'm sure they
>are not in System or Finder!

I'll make it simple. The custom Icons for a folder, hard drive, disk, etc.
are kept in invisible files called Icon. Go crazy.

Jay (=

--
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                        ###KEEP CIRCULATING THE TAPES###
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: rajiv@athena.mit.edu (Rajiv A Manglani)
Subject: PB 160/180 with French 7.1?
Keywords: Powerbook 160 180
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:42:21 GMT


Has anyone out there tried to run the French version of System 7.1 on a
Powerbook 160 or 180? I want to know if it will work before I install it.
Should I just install the "Install me first" disk that comes with the Powerbook
(I purchased it in the US) and then install the French 7.1?

Rajiv Manglani
rajiv@athena.mit.edu
From: jonathan@rahul.net (Jonathan Heiliger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: How to put an LC to sleep?
Date: 23 Jan 93 05:48:45 GMT
Reply-To: jonathan@mecca.epri.com
Organization: Electric Power Research Institute
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Sucks To Be Me (brady@ucsu.Colorado.EDU) wrote:

> Is there any way to put an LC w/68030 to sleep like a IIci will? I'd like to
> just be able to touch the button and have it start up.Any ideas??

   In a nutshell, No.  The LC's, Classic's, and whatever else have switches.  
While all of the other machines are hot-wired and there is always current 
running through them.
 
 
-- 
Jonathan Heiliger .... Electric Power Research Institute
Internet: jonathan@mecca.epri.com -/- jonathan@rahul.net
Telephone <*> [415].855.2888
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7.1 upgrade for Canadian Users
Date: 23 Jan 93 09:13:06 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: swiss.ucs.ubc.ca

In <1993Jan23.043608.24955@freenet.carleton.ca> aa443@Freenet.carleton.ca
(Robert Szarek) writes: 

>Recently the internet has been filled with the Apple offer of upgrading
>to System 7.1 to US users only. But now I'm pleased to tell the net that
>Apple Canada (seperate from Apple USA) has been convinced to offer this
>upgrade was well.

>The upgrade is valid only to Canadian User Group Members only.

I contacted Apple Canada many weeks ago and confirmed that a similar
upgrade is available to *all* Apple Canada customers... 

System 7.1 Update Kit

This single-user package provides the software necessary for current
System 7 users to upgrade to System 7.1.  It includes 1.4 MB (or 800K)
system disks, a QuickTime 1.5 disk, and the System 7.1 Upgrade Guide.
The System 7.1 Update Kit is available directly from Apple Canada by
calling 1-800-665-2775, ext. 700.  It is priced at $49.

Okay, that's $10 more than your "User Group Members only" deal, but it's
real close and there was no mention of a cut-off date. 

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