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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Weird pickup delays in Mail 3.0
From: vhs@rhein-main.de (Volker Herminghaus-Shirai)
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 08:35:44 GMT
Reply-To: vhs@rhein-main.de

In article <1992Nov12.025215.11305@muddcs.claremont.edu>
wfp@jupiter.claremont.edu (Frank Price) writes:
> I have noticed with all version of Mail I believe that if the application is
> hidden, sometimes it will go for hours and hours before letting me know that
> mail has arrived.  Is there any way I can make it more important for it to
let
> me know mail has arrived?  For instance, I have had my computer on for days.
> But Mail just now notified me that I have 9 pieces of mail that have come in
> over the last three days because I had activated it just then.  It is like
the
> app gets swapped out and doesn't get a chance to run.  Is there a workaround?

Make sure you haven't checked "Hide on autolaunch". If this property is
checked, Mail will not notify you. I think it is documented somewhere...

--
Volker Herminghaus-Shirai (vhs@rhein-main.de)

Computer industry: Industry in which the number of units sold of any
given product is inversely proportional to its technical excellence.
See also: MS-DOS, Windows, IBM-PC, X, QWERTY,
          80x86, TrueType, Survival of the shittest.
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From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Re: Need NeXT version of FTPtool
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 22:25:27 GMT

Keith McNeill writes
> Does anybody know of an FTPtool like program for the NeXT.
> FTPtool is an OpenLook wrapper around FTP which has a pretty
> nice interface.

GatorFTP+.  Its in the archives.
--
-
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
spagiola@FRI-nxt-Pagiola.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: ImageMagick for the NeXT?
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:50:28 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

Someone suggested that I use ImageMagick for the NeXT instead of xv or  
xview...I tried to compile but failed miserably.  Has anyone gotten this  
to compile, or should I bother?

Scott
From: eht@cmu.edu (Eric Thayer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Weird pickup delays in Mail 3.0
Date: 21 Nov 92 20:23:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.By31z5.Kqr.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

I've seen these delays in Mail quite often.  They seem to get very frequent  
when new mail is arriving while you are fetching mail from  
/usr/spool/mail/<hoohaa>.  Some bizarre stuff happened when I fired off a  
boatload of requests to an automated mail server.

..eric
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: pspriet@xlan.fdn.org (Paul Spriet)
Subject: SCITEX CT and LW or handshake format
Reply-To: pspriet@xlan
Organization: X&LAN - Bordeaux, France.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:02:49 GMT


I m looking for some software that could import and export SCITEX lw and  
CT image format files.

I m interested too by any translator between TIFF or PostScript and  
SCITEX.

It would very kind of someone to help me in that way.

THANX


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown)
Subject: Re: UNIX Mail with PubKey Encryption
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:14:49 GMT
Reply-To: gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown)
X-Posted-From: raven.ctr.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

> I just use ForYourEyesOnly that came as a 2.0 Demo app...  
..
> it's legal to use in the US (whereas PGP
> (Pretty Good Privacy) is very ILLEGAL in the US).
..
> send me some encrypted mail and piss the NSA off...  :-)  I think I'll
> put it in my .sig... hehe

If PGP is illegal, it must be too good for the NSA.
FYEO is not illegal 
	=> The NSA must know how to break it
	=> Sending you FYEO mail wouldn't piss off the NSA.

..Just some idle speculation.

--Glenn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Subject: Appleshare and 3.0 - where is the how to?
Reply-To: galanter@nyu.edu (Philip Galanter)
Organization: New York University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:24:09 GMT

I just had 3.0 installed on my Cube, and I can't any information about
using AppleShare, although there is a fair amount of info about NetWare.
Where can I look for instructions, assuming this feature actually shipped
with 3.0.?

(Sorry, but don't send NeXTMail for now, just ascii...)

Thanks, Phil

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Philip Galanter         New York University    phone:    212-998-3041
Research Associate      251 Mercer             fax:      212-995-4120
Academic Computing      New York, NY 10012     internet: galanter@nyu.edu
 
   O f f i c e   o f   A r t s   &   M e d i a   T e c h n o l o g i e s
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Subject: Re: Uploading to the Purdue archive servers
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:13:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.021007.2914@metrosoft.com> gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van  
Huizen) writes:
> Has anyone else experienced difficulty with ftp connections to these  
> servers?

Our disk has been filling up, which causes problems. 
There's 2MB free now, which is tight, but OK for most
things.  I'm trying to find a solution that'll work until I
get a bigger drive from somewhere.

For now, I'm mostly deleting big sound files to make room. 
People have suggested getting rid of the ancient (0.8,
0.9) programs, but they don't even take up a full
megabyte!  (Compare with 28MB of 1.0, 124MB of 2.0, and 6MB
of 3.0 stuff.) 

There might be problems unrelated to space, but it's kind
of hard to tell at the moment.  I'm trying to get things
cleaner, but there's not much room to move around in
there. :-( 

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: m@crito.stanford.edu (M Carling)
Subject: Re: Wolfgan Reaserch address??
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 01:14:54 GMT

In article <ufessex.722478883@mcl> ufessex@mcl.ucsb.edu (Fabian E.  
Schonholz) writes:
> I need the e-mail address of Wolfgan Reaserch. 

info@wri.com


M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Subject: Re: Are there any Renderman *.rib files available?
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:34:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.021535.22380@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
avery@scruffy.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de (Avery Wang) writes:
> Does anyone know if there are any example .rib files available from some FTP  
> site somewhere?

If somebody sends some to sonata, I'll make a
graphics/data/RenderMan directory to put them in.  I was
planning on sticking some of my own out there pretty soon
anyway. 

ab
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrew@cubetech.com
Subject: Re: MATLAB (the missing piece)
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:07:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.034922.7405@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown) writes:
>
>> What I'm trying to say here is that the glass is not half empty, it's
>> half full.
>
>	Agreed... and filling... Slowly.
>
>>  As an engineering/scientific user and developer, I can
>> testify that the scientific and engineering community would prefer to
>> use and develop under NeXTSTEP rather than other environments; however,
>> the X window "inertia" is fairly difficult to overcome.  This must
>> be countered by persistence.
>
>	And NeXTSTEP ported to those machines that are already on  
>scientists desktops.  Suns, especially.
>	If NeXTSTEP itself was developed on Sun3's before the first NeXT  
>prototypes (as one source has told me), then this is not a giant leap.  Or  
>even a small one.  But I'm sure the guys at NeXT are all way ahead of us  
>already on this score.  They're no bozo's.


A Sun3 is a totally different animal than Sun's current offerings.
But, I'm sure NeXT has played around with Sun4's...

It gets much easier for NeXT to do ports as they do more of them.
Let's just hope they at least get NS486 right (and possibly not making
last minute changes without testing would help...).


andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: aeschwar@ncsu.edu (Adam E. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Ejecting a disk from Terminal?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:20:03 GMT

UC512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu (David K. Drum) writes:

>Hi all,
> 
>I RTFM'd and found out how to format from Terminal, but not eject.  Help?
> 
>Regards,
> 
>David uc512052@mizzou1.missouri.edu  no NeXT mail please

Here's my ejectdisk alias: /usr/etc/disk -e /dev/rfd0a

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: NeXT Trinitron Monitor
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:00:22 GMT

In article <Bxy524.M0x@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David  
Lemson) writes:
> gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello) writes:
> 
> >Is that a Sony Trinitron? I assume 17".
> 
> >We have one of the 21" Color monitors, which we bought for $1000 more  
> >because Next's own folks secretly said the 17" one was BAD. Well I  
wonder  
> >how the new Trinitrons compare with the 21" monitor?
> 
> Yes, it's a Trinitron, and from what I understand, the Trinitrons
> rival the Hitachi 21" monitors, except: less expensive, less
> expansive.  (I haven't seen a Trinitron yet, except on old one on a
> Sun) Most people don't need a 21" monitor, nor have the desk
> real estate for one... The Trinitron fills an important bill -
> beautiful color available at a reasonable price.

Support for 1024x768 on a 15" color display, as I imagine
NS486 will include, would live up to that claim of a reasonable
price even better.  Now when will NeXT get around to supporting
it for their own hardware?  Not to mention the lack of 1280x1024
for 21" displays...

--
Nathan Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu

Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: mark@plexus.guild.org (Mark Onyschuk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Database Kit programmers needed for input
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:56:50 GMT
Reply-To: mark@plexus.guild.org (Mark Onyschuk)
Organization: Onyschuk and Associates, Toronto

If you're a programmer using the NeXT Database Kit, Onyschuk and Associates  
would like to get your input on a new product we're developing.

If you'd like to help, please send an empty mail message to  
help-oa@plexus.guild.org and we'll send back more specific information.

Thanks,
Mark

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/Courier findfont 12 scalefont setfont 72 72 moveto (Practice PostScript) show
From: besler@geop.ubc.ca (Steve Besler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Compiling 2.0 source under 3.0
Date: 18 Nov 1992 05:40:43 GMT
Organization: University of B.C. Geophysics & Astronomy
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: holo.geop.ubc.ca

	How do I compile 2.0 source under 3.0?
I noticed the 2.0CompatibleHeaders directory, does this
have something to do with it?

	Right now I am just downloading binaries.

	Are 2.0 binaries "safe" to run under 3.0 ?

	How about 2.0 source compiled under 3.0 ?

Thanks in Advance

	Steven Besler
	besler@geop.ubc.ca <--- Please respond via "normal" email...
From: somme@muttley.cs.mcgill.ca (Olivier SOMME)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Convert SUN sound to NeXT sound ??
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:17:55 GMT
Reply-To: somme@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada


I'm looking for a solution to convert the SUN sound (.snd) to NeXT sound (.snd)
If you know, please send me the answer by E-mail.
	Olivier
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
From: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Ethernet id
Date: 19 Nov 1992 13:25:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: jdavidso@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: jd-next.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu


Yet another way to get the address:

Hit Command-command-~ (both command keys and tilda); this gets you into  
the nmi monitor

at the nmi prompt, type "msg" and hit return--

then keep answering with a "y" for more messages, until you see the  
address displayed on one of the lines.

to exit this, answer "n" for more messages, then type in a "c" and hit  
return.
--
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(hardwaire guy extraordinaire)       MACTech,NeXTtech; NeXTmail accepted
                      "Everything is relative."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nevin@dtint.dtint.com
Subject: Re: 3.0 Mac Floppy Copy Less Than Useful
Reply-To: nevin@dtint.dtint.com
Organization: Digital Technology, International
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 02:46:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.035136.15646@trilithon.mpk.ca.us>  
henry@trilithon.mpk.ca.us (Henry McGilton) writes:
> 
> In 3.0, I notice that the ``system'' seems to look only at the Data
> Fork of Macintosh files.  This is less than useful for Macintosh
> format Type 1 font files, which in almost all cases have their
> useful data in the resource fork of the file.
 
You can copy the resource fork, from a Terminal window, by copying the file as  
if it had an invisible ".#rsrc#" extension.

--
Nevin Pratt, Digital Technology, Int'l    Orem, Ut
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Subject: Re: NeXT Trinitron Monitor
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:57:10 GMT

Nathan F. Janette writes
> Now when will NeXT get around to supporting
> it for their own hardware?  Not to mention the lack of 1280x1024
> for 21" displays...

With that kind of high-quality output readily available in tandem with  
NeXTSTEP, is there any need for NeXT to support their own hardware?  I suspect  
NeXT's response to this would be to use a NeXTdimension board with two monitors  
so that you could double the resolution on at least one axis....sure, it would  
cost you the price of an ND board and another monitor, but you get the  
resolution....not the pixel density, but the part of the resolution (and from  
the reviews I'm reading on this Trinitron monitor, two of these should make  
really nice double headed ND displays).  While the topic is the Trinitron  
displays, has anyone noticed the tell-tale Trinitron horizontal dark scan line  
about 3/4 the way down the screen?  If so, does it bug you or do you just sorta  
'see around it'?

About NeXT and their own hardware, though, I'm very curious what NeXT will do  
because I've got a Cube.  Hearing from NeXT means an awful lot to us Cube  
owners and hearing that they won't be left in the dust next CPU upgrade would  
mean a lot.  While you're at it, hearing that there will be affordable color  
(aka, not the price of a color station) would be a good way to keep us around  
for a spell.
-- 
-- Jeff (jeffo@uiuc.edu)
-- NeXTmail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: kevin@pages (Kevin Sven Berg)
Subject: Downloading from the Purdue archive servers
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:29:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.021007.2914@metrosoft.com> gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van  
Huizen) writes:
> For the last several days we have attempted to upload the demo version of  
> MetroTools for NeXTSTEP 3.0 to the Purdue archive servers. 

On a related note, we're having problems downloading via the
purdue archive mail server. The first level index comes across fine,
but other specific directory attempts fail. We have been using the
archive mail server since it was installed, so it isn't an problem
in education or useage (unless protocol has changed). Anyone else 
having this problem? What gives?

Kevin
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From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: NeXT Trinitron Monitor
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:42:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.103312.61042@cc.usu.edu> sl05r@cc.usu.edu writes:

> Now how about a 21" Trinitron?...

The Nanao T660i, or other 3rd party trinitron displays are available...

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: carsten@pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Carsten Schultz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Ghostscript ... help, please
Date: 19 Nov 1992 23:10:40 GMT
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carsten@pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de (Carsten Schultz)
NNTP-Posting-Host: pizza.fb10.tu-berlin.de

In article <1eehcsINNguj@bigboote.WPI.EDU> nether@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Joel C  
Belog) writes:
> 
> Hi,
> 	Thanks for reading.

No problem.

> 
> 	I have a standalone NS running 2.1, minimal system.  I'd like
> 	to use ghostscript, but I can't find any binary's for
> 	it.  And my NeXT is the only one that I know of within
> 	this city -- argh!

Do you really want ghostscript? (Sorry for that.) 
Maybe you think you need it for.

Carsten
From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Pwerbook as a window on a NeXT
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:49:33 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

The Caymen solution is interesting however; first, you must run
Xgator in an Xwindows environment and second, one doesn't get
any extra real-estate.  At best you could probably double the pixal
resolution but you still won't see any more screen than if you were 
viewing the original on the Mac.  Another consideration is performance.
As I recall, it is sluggish and the Caymen tech people were very honest
in admitting that they've never seen it run on a NeXT.  I talked with them
for quite some time and realized that I would have to wait for a
different solution mainly because I need more real-estate.  Caymen was 
great and I hope someone else calls them up--they've probably upgraded 
again by now--, unfortunately, I don't have their number handy.

Ushare used with Executor might be a better option when the tecnology
becomes more developed and able to work together.  I think there will
be more resources after NeXT fixes some of the bugs in NS 3.0.  

If there are other alternatives or if I'm mistaken please e-mail
me as this seems to be an ongoing difficulty that I'd like to resolve.

maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: NeXT Trinitron Monitor
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 13:14:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.000006.1888@leland.Stanford.EDU> mcarling@NetForce.com (M Carling) writes:

[ ]
>
>NeXTSTEP 486 supports resolutions ranging from 600x400 to 1280x1024.

Is colour on an ISA system without local bus ruled out( even with a
a graphics' accelerator such as the ATI Ultra line)?

Also, which CD-ROM drives are supported on NS486's?

Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: mikes@velo.ucr.edu (Mike Shebanek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: IncompleteGuide.hqx
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:12:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: galaxy.24007

In article <1992Nov10.033420.24181@macc.wisc.edu> anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess  
Anderson) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Nov9.095506.5099@proximus.north.de>
> gemoe@proximus.north.de (Gerhard Moeller) writes:
> 
> >I went to a mac and "dehqxed" the incomplete guide.
> 
> >Forget it. It's in "MS Word" format. There is no "Word" for the NeXT, is it?
> >(I know that there is Executor, but...)
> 

I just happen to support both Macs and NeXTs, and I've had several people ask  
for the guide in NeXT readable format.  I used MacLinkPlus on the Mac to  
convert it into WriteNow format and then saved it into PostScript format.   
Looks very good (not perfect).

I'd be happy to post it in WriteNow or PS format somewhere.  Got any  
suggestions?
--

Mike Shebanek
Computing and Communications
University of California, Riverside
Riverside, CA.  92521
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)
Subject: Re: NeXT Trinitron Monitor
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:29:56 GMT

sl05r@cc.usu.edu writes:
> gcolello@biosphere.Stanford.EDU (Greg Colello) writes:
> > samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK) writes:
> >> 
> >> Well, it just arrived.
> >> The new monitor is VERY impressive. It is crisp, and clear,
> >> and the colors are WAY WAY WAY better than the old crappy
> >> monitor.
> > 
> > We have one of the 21" Color monitors, which we bought for $1000 
> > more because Next's own folks secretly said the 17" one was BAD.
> > Well I wonder how the new Trinitrons compare with the 21" monitor?
> 
> I have played around on both, and I think that while the 21" is better
> than the old 17", the new Trinitron 17" is VERY nice, better even than
> the 21" for display quality.  The color saturation is great, and the
> display is rock solid and very nice on the eyes.
> 
> Now how about a 21" Trinitron?...

The new NeXT price list (well, it's Oct 15th's, actually) indicates that a  
21" Sony monitor has replaced the old 21" Hitachi monitor, with no price  
change.  It doesn't specifically say Triniton, but some sort of change has  
happened there.  I have not seen the 21" new monitor, so I don't know how it  
compares to the older one.

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Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA