Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Syracuse Probation
From: mzwick@vitro.com (Morris J. Zwick)
Date: 5 Oct 92 09:05:15 -0500
 <1992Oct1.181145.20120@oswego.Oswego.EDU> <1992Oct2.180106.6572@newstand.syr.edu>
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In article <1992Oct2.180106.6572@newstand.syr.edu> mwhanley@rodan.acs.syr.edu
(Hanley) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.181145.20120@oswego.Oswego.EDU>
cs_ind23@oswego.Oswego.EDU (James LaPlaine) writes:
>>
>>It's some small infraction like buying the players dinner or something like
>>that. A local car dealer gave cars to some players also, It's only the big
>>schools that ever get hit with probation anyway. 
>> The NCAA makes tons of money from it, so why don't they just let it go?
>>                                -Jamie
>
>    Whoa now.  No cars were given to anybody, I few car rentals on 
>occasion.  There's a big difference.
>    There were links to Rob Johnson, honorable street agent that he
>is, that he gave rides to games to Conrad McRae.  Some of these rides
>were supposedly unknown to SU.
>    The only other "notable" one was a booster game each player $50
>at Christmas.  The others in mine and the NCAA's opinion were minor.
>There were just a lot of minor ones that the NCAA felt added up to
>a major one.
>    Things like getting free drinks in bars, free haircuts, free/
>discounted meals go on at every school that I've seen.  These things
>are not really controlable by a coach.  And the bars do it because
>it's good business for them to have a local celebrity drink in there
>bar.  Two other infractions that crack me up were once when Conrad
>came up for a visit, he slam dunked in the Dome just for fun.  The
>NCAA deemed this as an illegal try-out since he had not signed yet.
>Come on, if I'm in high school and I'm 7 ft. tall, you can bet I'm
>gonna dunk in the Dome just to say I did.
>    The other one was when some idiot challanged Stevie Thompson
>in a one on one game for $100.  Stevie crushed him and took the
>fools money.  Please, like an NBA caliber player's eyes don't light
>up when some nobody offers up a $100.
>    Like I said, the majority of the incidents were not very easily
>controlled and they were not recruiting violations because these 
>guys were already here.  They were just perks for being a local
>celebrity.  I'm not saying it's right, but it's kinda picky in
>some places.
>    In a side note, SU volunteered that if the NCAA let them play
>in the tournament, they would donate all their winnings (est.
>$365,000) to charity.  The NCAA said no.  I know what your saying,
>SU will choke and the charity will die, but I thought it was a good
>gesture anyway.  Personally I would of accepted the deal, but then
>again I'm a little biased.
>
>-matt
>
>

Compared to the shaft Maryland got, SU should be RELIEVED. The bogus arguement
against Maryland is that the infractions occured within the department, not
outside boosters. Shame that driving a kid to class warrants no TV and two
years of no tournament(s), while the above-mentioned garbage gets the hand
slap. And SU was nailed for more than one sport! There is no justice in the
NCAA!

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