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From: brownga@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:39:54 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Aug24.214031.17867@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, jennings@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Tim Jennings) writes:
> I really thought that Worf's love interest (his son's mother)
> was pretty alluring in a Klingon kind of way.  Kind of had 
> an Amazon attraction about her.
> -- 
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> Motorola ASIC Division			--Popeye
> email: jennings@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Sick, real sick:)-- 

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From: lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Season 6 opener: The Enterprise vs Q for the sanity of Rebecca DeMorney
Organization: DSC
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:32:14 GMT

In article <67581@hydra.gatech.EDU>, cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep2.180905.27301@tin.monsanto.com) lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder) writes:
> )In article <67494@hydra.gatech.EDU), cegtitd@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Dodd) writes:
> )) 
> )) In article <BtyEGp.JM2@acsu.buffalo.edu) v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.) writes:
> )) )The crew are flung to the late 20th century and battle Q to save the mind
> )) )and life of Rebecca DeMorney's character in The Hand That Rocks the Cradle.
> )) )Q's plan was to wipe out Picard before he ever existed, and that his
> )) )ancestory has a key point with her. 
> )) 
> )) How can this be?  How can the Enterprise crew not only travel into the past,
> )) but into a *fictional* past?  Furthermore, how can Picard's origin be some-
> )) how tied up in this fictitious past?
> )) 
> )
> )Ah, don't you see? By going into the *fictional* past instead of the *actual*
> )past the crew doesn't have to worry about messing up the future, since the
> )future for the *fictional* past is the *fictional* future. And since that
> )future doesn't exist, you can mess with it all you want and it's still OK.
> )
> )And, just to be creative, they also meet *actual* people in the *fictional*
> )past, like Mark Twain, and as long as they don't affect the *actual* future,
> )they can use *actual* people all they want to change the *fictional* future.
> )And, I guess, they can use *fictional* people to affect the *actual* future,
> )so long as it's what it is, since they can't mess with that.
> )
> )Is that clear? ;^)
> 
> Ah, I understand now.  I think what you're saying is that the past depicted
> in TA I is *fictional*, and that the *actual* people portrayed therein are
> really *fictional* representations thereof.  To carry your reasoning further,
> they can use the *fictional* *actual* people to affect either the *fictional*
> *actual* future, or the *actual* *fictional* future.  Now, are the *fictional*
> characters created by the *fictional* *actual* Mark Twain *fictional* *actual*
> *fictional* characters, or just *fictional* *fictional* characters?  Or, if
> we can assume that these characters are the same as the ones created by
> the *actual* Mark Twain, then they are *actual* *fictional* characters, whereas
> their creator is *fictional* *actual*.  Does this mean that the *actual*
> *fictional* characters created by the *fictional* *actual* Mark Twain are
> more real than their creator?

Yes.

;^)

> 
> Tim :-)
> -- 
> "Truth is under all circumstances more valuable than nontruth, and this
> must apply to truth in the realm of history as to other kinds of truth."
>   -- Albert Schweitzer, _Out of My Life and Thought_
> Tim Dodd, Research Scientist, Georgia Tech  cegtitd@prism.gatech.edu
> 
> 
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From: lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: The Man Trap
Organization: DSC
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:56:07 GMT

In article <Btnppr.GFL@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v116r8ac@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chris Nasipak) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug27.132010.16971@pyra.co.uk>, jimmy@pyramid.com (Jimmy Aitken) writes...
> >In <1992Aug27.112707.29226@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell) writes:
> > 
> >>hi
> > 
> >>One other strange thing. In TNG we always have a few minutes of action
> >>before the credits, at some dramatic point the action stops and
> >>Jean-Luc says "Space, the final frontier......". Well in last nights
> >>episode we had a pre-credit sequence before Jim says "Space, the final frontier...".

TOS *always* started with an initial scene to get the viewers' attention,
then went to the opening sequence, just as TNG does. What you saw was NOT
edited. If you saw it any other way, THAT was edited.

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From: willcr@bud.sos.ivy.isc.com (Will Crowder)
Subject: Re: warp drive and other 10-step scales (s
Reply-To: willcr@ivy.isc.com
Organization: Interactive Systems Corp.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:17:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.144200.104@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>,
stanaway@ssd.comm.mot.com (Chris Stanaway) writes:

|> Speedometers in cars in the US vary.  Some go up to 85, others 180.  My
|> Saturn goes up to 140.  It depends on the type of car (economy vs sports)
|> and the manufacturer.

Also depends on year.  For a while there in the late Seventies and
early Eighties I think it was, the US Government mandated that no
speedometer on a car sold in the US could register beyond 85 on the
theory that if the speedometer wouldn't read 86 and beyond, people
wouldn't drive that fast.

Of course, all it led to was people much more interested in "pegging"
their 85 MPH speedometers, and seeing if they could bend the
needle.  :) :)  The law was repealed sometime around 1985, I
think.  Sorry I can't remember the details...

Will
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From: stanaway@ssd.comm.mot.com (Chris Stanaway)
Subject: Re: I Borg question (spoiler?)
Reply-To: stanaway@ssd.comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:54:54 GMT

To continue this thread a little longer...

It hasn't been mentioned (in this thread) that when Picard was a Borg,
he had an individual name, Locutus.  The explanation for this is that
he was to be the Borg's Human representive, but this shows that the
Borg already have the concept of individual names in the collective,
and not relying on past/assimulated memories.

Also, Hugh addresses Picard as Locutus, and not by some other
proper Borg identification (I'm assuming that 'Locutus' is not a
proper Borg identification).  If I'm not mistaken, doesn't Hugh
say, "You are Locutus.", or does he just say, "Locutus." when
he first addresses Picard?

Chris
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From: haaser@quince.ssc.gov (Bobby Haaser)
Subject: Re: Idea on Returning from San Francisco
Organization: SuperConducting Supercollider
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:11:08 GMT

In article <78606@ut-emx.uucp>, tgunter@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Thomas Gunter) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug25.214139.11237@ctr.columbia.edu> Charles_Laine@CCIS.BAYLOR.EDU (Charles Laine) writes:
|> >How will the 1701-D crew return from the 19th century to their own time?
|> >How about this...
|> >The crew lives ordinary lives until the time of "City on the Edge of
|> ...
|> >should.  Guinan, who's perception "goes beyond linear time" instructs
|> >Picard that the Enterprise C will be making a stop in the Future.  So,
|> >everyone hops aboard the Enterprise C, heads for Nirendra 3 and waits for
|> >the rift to open.  The temporal rift opens, the Enterprise C exits 22
|> >years later, and the 1701-D crew is returned to their normal time.
|> 
|> Yeah, but since Denise Crosby's career hasn't exactly taken off, the
|> Tasha Yar from the 'warrior' 1701-D goes with the "normal time" crew
|> back to what we see as the 'real' 1701-D so she can fight it out with
|> Sela in some old Patty-Duke-Show style action.
|> 
|> Or am I getting my episodes mixed up?
|> 
|> BTW--was Picard on the away team at the end of _Time's Arrow_?  I can't 
|> remember.
|> 
|> -tag

Yes, I believe The landing party included:
Picard, (not Worf), Troi, Riker, LaForge, and Dr. Crusher

Anyway, the reason that Picard went down is because Guinan
told him that if he didn't go down, They "would never meet".

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From: brownga@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek
Subject: Re: Jim Doohan on CNN Showbiz Today *SPOILERS*
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:53:05 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <BtpM7w.9MD@scd.hp.com>, dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes:
> In article <1992Aug27.233332.10269@nntp.uoregon.edu>, wesiegel@cie.uoregon.edu (William Siegel) writes:
> |> In article <1992Aug27.125133.9014@bsu-ucs.uucp> 00ajpayne@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
> |> >> definatelya character who is a relatively regular guest, like Roxanna Troi.
> |> >                                                                ^^^^^^^
> |> >								^^^^^^^
> |> >
> |> >Roxanna Troi, who the hell is that......
> |> >	A betazoid punk rock singer it sounds like.....
> |> >
> |> >Sorry no Roxanna here, only us people with real brains.
> |> >
> |> I now humble myself before the unforgiving and relentless netters who feel
> |> I have violated the sacred trust of making a mistake about this, my least 
> |> favorite, character's name.  I have fielded about 20 messages in my mailbox
> |> and feel that I have made a simple mistake.  I stand corrected and have 
> 
> [ and the apology goes on for another paragraph or two ]
> 
> You know something, folks, it is exactly this kind of abuse that this poor
> fellow has been subjected to by a small group of readers that causes those
> who are not ST fans to make the "get a life" comments and postings, and to
> view fans as some sort of freaks, as depicted on that Saturday Night Live
> episode that was hosted by Shatner.
> 
> The guy made a simple mistake, yet some people are so wrapped up in their
> fandom that they take it as a personal insult that someone might make such
> and error.
> 
> I've been an avid fan all of my life that ST:TOS and ST:TNG have been on
> the air. However, when I read stuff like this, it is apparent to me that
> some of you *do* need to get a real life. Give the guy a break, and try
> and maintain some civility.
> 
> -- 
> Dave Waller
-- 
I second that.
I ***love*** the show but I still act like a sensible human being when
it comes to real life things, such as this news net.

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From: brownga@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: ST II: Wrath of Khan --> New Footage
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:08:20 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Aug25.201934.12356@cs.rose-hulman.edu>, rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert) writes:
> 
> In article <bbmyccn@rpi.edu> palmj@vccsouth27.its.rpi.edu (Jyri L. Palm)  
> writes:
>> Last night, my local ABC affiliate showed it on TV, and to my surprise,
>> there was new footage not found on the old laserdisc or the VHS tape.
>> 
>> Here are the new scenes I noted (I joined the movie late):
>> (4) Upon returning from the center of the dead moon (to the Enterprise), 
>> Kirk tries a turbolift, and spock says, "They're not working below?  
> C-deck."
>> After this scene, there is a new scene showing them manually climbing up
>> a Jeffries-tube to get to the bridge.  Spock mutters something *like*
>> "Ohhh," as they climb.
> 
> I noticed this too. 
> Kirk said "You see that young man. He's my son!"
> and Spock came back with 'Fascinating'.
I think Kirk said "That you manis my son".
Not You see that........
I am 95% sure.#) 
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From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Imzadi & Frakes. No spoilers. (was Re: "Q, Me?")
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:03:59 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.

In article <1992Aug30.200930.29054@eng.umd.edu> wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.232130.23529@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>
>
>>One other thing, he[Frakes] has been slated to direct episode number nine of
>>this season.
>>
>>Other thing number two, he said he really rather liked "Imzadi," and
>>even said he thinks the production staff at Paramount would do well
>>to hire some of the novel writers to write episodes of the show.
>>I guess that includes Peter David, so here's a reference for you PAD!
>

I don't suppose being a key character in the story would have affected 
Frakes' judgement any. Nahh...

(As an aside, this isn't a slam on "Imzadi". I haven't
read the book.)



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Subject: Re: Geordi Dies/Scotty Lives/Triva Contest
From: cuy@ssdvax.mdcbbs.com
Date: 26 Aug 92 11:43:34 GMT
Organization: McDonnell Douglas - Space Station Division, Huntington Beach CA
Nntp-Posting-User: cuy

In article <1040@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:
> lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder) writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Aug25.150132.20391@tin.monsanto.com>, lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder) writes:
>>> 
>>> > >Guy Williams, June Lockhart, Bill Mummy and Angla Cartwright.
>>> > >
>>> > >Name that series. :-)
>>> > 
>>> > Lost in Space>
>>> > >For a top prize (a Plutotonium plated Ultra Man)
>>> > >can you name the other two actors of that series?
>>> > 
>>> Johnathon Harris and
>>> 
>>> TA-DA
>>> 
>>> Billy Mumy, aka Will Robinson
> 
>>OOOOOOOPS, you said that, didn't you? You must be talking about Penny, or
>>the guy that played Penny's boyfriend, oh heck, I don't know!! Sorry!
> 
> Let's see, I think it was Mark Goddard as Major West and Kirsten something
> as the other daughter... Marla Kirsten maybe...

Ok, here's my $.02 and whatever's been figured out til now:

Dad (What was his name?) Robinson - Guy Williams
Mom (What was her name?) Robinson - June Lockhart
    (whose daughter Anne was on Battlestar Galactica, BTW)
Don (?) West - Mark Goddard
Judy Robinson - Marla Kirsten or something
Penny Robinson - Angela Cartwright
Will Robinson - Bill Mumy
Dr. Zachary Smith - Jonathan Harris

Anyone remember the name of that monkey-thing that they picked up
somewhere along the line?

DMC
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From: ricky@adx.adelphi.edu (Ricky Glass)
Subject: Re: Who was hot on ST: TNG
Organization: Adelphi University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:18:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.192704.29368@gtech.com> smp@gtech.com (Sergio M. Pedro) writes:
>
>	Forget all of the women named up to this point.  Does anyone
>recall the first season episode "Angel One"?  Well, Mistress Biada (?) is
>one pretty lady.  Lucky for Riker, huh?  I don't know who played her, but
>she looks kind of familiar?  Does anyone know who she is and where she
>might be from?
>
>Does the song "California Dreaming" ring any bells for you??? 
Hmmmmm, I don't know.  I may have to ask the Mammas and Poppas out there
in net land.

>Yes indeed
>this bodacious babe is none other than the 40+ year old Michelle Phillips.
>IMHO her daughter still has a long way to go to catch up with the original!
A very loooooooooooong way to go.  But, she will have to take it One Day
at a Time.

My sincerest apologies, ;-)
Ricky

>
>Sincerely,
>SMP
>
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From: jcomer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan C Comer)
Subject: Re: A totally unfounded rumor I heard
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:49:20 GMT

In article <92242.215457DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
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>the purpose of killing off Kirk!!??!!! I also heard that DS9 was slated to be
>cancelled because a test audience hated it.

  I would consider this rumor complete garbage.  They blew a golden opportunity
to do so in VI; it would have made the movie more powerful, and also made 
Spock's comments in "Unification" more poignant.  Just an IMHO,

Jon
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From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Re: The Enterprise Stinks!
Keywords: 
 
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:42:07 GMT

>> Let's be real.  They should all be in something much more practical and
>> economical.  This current design sucks.
>> 
>> Roy Tiger.
>	Oh, boy!!  My first flame!!  If you don't like the ship, then don't
>watch the show, don't waste our time by telling us about what you dont' like
>about the show because maybe some of us don't care what you think!!  
>It takes an imagination to think of something as complex as this show. 
> Maybe you should get one.  And if you knew what you were talking about, the
>Enterprise doesn't use "gas".  If you think you know so much, why don't you
>go and tell them yourself.  I, and I'm sure others agree, do not need nor 
>desire to hear what you have to say.  The Enterprise is not just a ship on
>a television show.  If you were a REAL Trekker, you would know what the ship
>means to a lot of people.  
>						Jeff
>--


jeff,
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Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 17:08:36 EDT
From: Peter Chewning <PCHEWNI@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: News to Scott

4. Scotty will sure have trouble "Lookin' up a plate o'hagass in the galley"
   considering the exstensive use of replicators.

5. How is he going to adjust to Synthahol? Badly, I trust.

6. How will he interplay with Worf.
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From: lksmith@truth.uucp (Smith)
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine on ET
Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, Ma.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:58:32 GMT


In article <1992Sep03.063331.6732@eng.umd.edu> wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
>There are no real spoilers here, but what the heck
>

>
>Entertainment tonight gave a sneak peak at the crew of DSN as well as a look
>the bridge.  Some tidbits:
>
>...(stuff deleted) 
>
>- Avery Brooks has that deep commanding voice that should resonate on the 
>tube just like Stewart's.
>

Not too surprising, since he's a classically-trained opera-quality singer.
I'm delighted by this casting -- imho he was excellent on "Spenser."

Linda
lksmith@truth.mitre.org
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 19:04:44 EDT
From: robert eric beckwith <IO20081@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Anyone collecting Season premere fun ?

Is anyone collecting all these Season premere *spoilers* ?
They would be great posted all together........
robert...
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From: susher@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: SPOILERS - For the birds....
Date: 25 Aug 92 13:44:49 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <l97t0pINN2n7@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu>, lape@cs.utk.edu (Bryon S. Lape) writes:
> 
> 	With all this garbage about spoiler alerts, I just cannot help and
> wonder why it offends people when they are not there.  If you do not want
> to read, unsubscribe.  I know some of you would consider it common curtesy
> to include spoilers, but c'est la vie.
> -- 
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PLease also remember that in the UK we are at least one series behind you in
the USA, so all your conversations about series 5 and 6 will be "spoilers" to
us.

But then again, I don't mind.

Steve
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