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From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Gov'mnt Munny (Was: Drug testing and welfare)
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:39:06 GMT
	<92209.113511JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu>
	<1992Jul27.164852.16282@news.iastate.edu>
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

<In article <1992Jul27.164852.16282@news.iastate.edu> z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
<   Jenny Sheehey <JMS111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
<   >I don't really care whether they want to or not, if they're using my
<   >money to do so.

<   It's not your money once the Govmint gives it to them.  Think about
<   that.  It's not your money, it's Govmint money, and they can spend it any
<   way they damn well please.  Your lost your ability to control it when you
<   wrote that check to the IRS.

	Huh? Oh, well, the next time some punk sticks up
	a 7-11, once he gets away I guess the money is 
	"his money", right?

	Or do you REALLY believe that you have a choice
	about whether to write that check to the IRA....er....
	IRS or not, Big Dan?

	ObGeeeeeeeeeeeze.....

<	   Stealing cattle is still a capitol offense here in Iowa.  

	I reckon this means that those convicted of stealing
	cattle have to go to the Statehouse?
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: The dickheads on rec.arts.movies
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 10:25:04 BST
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>    That group is so full of assholes it never ceases to amaze me. These
> dickheads bitch and whine every time someone slams a movie they like. 

I liked the guy who slammed Koyaanisqatsi, saying "I couldn't see what the
fuss was about.  It was just a bunch of pictures of speeded-up clouds and
stuff."

I wish I'd kept that posting.


mathew
-- 
Ceci | n'est pas une pipe.

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From: elliott-bruce@CS.YALE.EDU (Bruce Elliott)
Subject: Re: Oh, and one more. . .
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:41:15 GMT

In article <l6oltdINNo2@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>
>It's amazing how few people know how to pronounce such a common name.
>Contrary to popular belief, it's "TAW-russ," not "TORR-us."  A "torus"
>is the geometric shape described by a donut, not the name of an astro-
>logical sign or a Ford.

Um, I'm not exactly sure what kind of accent I have (some people have
told me that I sound like a Philadelphian), but when I carefully sounded
out "TAW-russ" and "TORR-us", they sounded exactly the same.

Likewise, I use the same vowel in the words "tot", "taut", and "taught".

Peeve:  I seem to be vowel deficient.


Alex Elliott
The Lemming.
elliott@minerva.cs.yale.edu
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: drug testing, welfare, and screaming kids...
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:21:22 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Edinburgh University

Great header line huh? Now, you wonder, how is he going to tie these
fave subjects together?

Well, the yookay guvmint has come up with a neat proposal: If kids skive
off school (that's scots for play truant) or make a general nuisance of
themselves by say disrupting class, mugging the teachers, or burning
down the buildings then they guvmint are going to dock benefits from
their parents. This is possible in the yookay because even if you are a
billionaire, you're entitled to welfare benefits just for having kids

Peeve: I have no kids, but I gotta pay taxes to help out rich brats.

The quick witted amongst you will have immediately grasped the
connection with piss-testing welfare claimants.

Peeve: I'm gonna have to appear inconsistent on this one. I don't
believe that welfare claimants should be piss-tested, though I do
believe that the guvmint could hand them food rather than cash if it
were worried the money would be spent on drugs. I am however
wholeheartedly behind the idea of encouraging parents to be responsible
for their offspring.

Peeve: this means that I have to agree with the Minister for Education.

FoFP

obMisquote: "and the sins of the sons shall be visited on the fathers."
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From: hillman@carina.unm.edu (Dan Hillman)
Subject: Class (was Re: Men's Cologne, etc.) 
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 07:09:38 GMT
Organization: Holy Order of Quadra 950 Lust

In article <5630@catnip.berkeley.ca.us> dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Please Fondle My Buttocks) writes:
>larry@peak.psl.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:
>
>[what is "classy" and what is not]
>
>>There's a good short book around called Class (can't recall the author)
>>which talks about such things, in a very interesting fashion.
>
>AUUUUUUAAUAUAUUAUGUUGUGHGHGHGHHH!@!! FUCK ME HARDER!

Followups to alt.sex.earth.moving.equipment...

>If this is the very least time I hever hear of that goddamn book, it won't
>be too fucking son.  What a boring waste of time!

Obviously you haven't managed to get past the first chapter. I'm sorry if
it lacks the monosyllabic elegance of your usual material, "Blondes Who
Eat Cum" and "Dad's Big Tool." Perhaps future editions will have more
pictures for you to grunt at.

>Even worse is people wh0o quote
>out of the damn thing and go on and on about how wonderful this guy is and what a fucking genius he is.  AUAUUAUAUAHUAHUAUHGUHAUHRUHAUHGUHAGUHARUAHRUGHGHUGUHGHGHGHGHGHG

	When in early middle life some people discover that certain limits
	have been placed on their capacity to ascend socially by such
	apparent irrelevancies as heredity, early environment, and the
	social class of their immediate forebears, they go into something
	like despair...(Fussell, 1983, pp 7f)

Genius, simply fucking genius.

Whoops, it's time to light another candle for the shrine...
-- 
| _   ;/                                                          Dan Hillman
|(")_/   "I'm right and you're not."                   hillman@carina.unm.edu
|~~/                                                 University of New Mexico
|~/                                               Land of Fucking Enchantment
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From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Cryin' baby express ... what to do?
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 29 Jul 1992 15:52:59 GMT
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In article <24249@castle.ed.ac.uk> egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:

>=>The rate of suicide and alchoholism is higher in Sweden. It must
>=>be all those parents whose kids are driving them up the wall.

>I know it's kinda boorish to bring Facts into Peevetown (check 'em at the
>gate, honey) but this is an invention of Old Mr Eisenhower, and has no
>basis in reality.


What?  You mean there's really no Swedish Olympic Suicide Team?!?!

(Why would Pres. Eisenhower have cared about Swedish demographics?)



Geoff


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From: jean@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Powell)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: a few random peeves
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:58:31 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Jul25.154538.23926@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> pmmuggli@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (pauline muggli) writes:
>peeve: having so much ice/frost in the freezer that i have to
>defrost it.


Peeve -[>o- : I *finally* moved into an apartment with a frost free
  ^           refrigerator that is _actually_ _frost_ _free_!
  |
  \------ (a peeve going through an inverter)

>weather peeve:  having the humidity hovering around 50% when the
>temperature is in the mid to upper nineties.

Bwahahaha!!!  Boy, wouldn't that be nice?  Yesterday in Austin, it was 98
degrees Fahrenheit (that's 309.816667 Kelvin for those who don't like the
Imperial system of measurement), and that's not at all an unusual temperature.
Combine that with humidity typically over 80%, and what do you get?  An
electric bill for a 2 bedroom apartment that's over $100.00!

>weather peeve:  when the temperature doesn't drop to seventy or
>below at night.

I don't think it's been less than 70 in Austin for months now.  'Course,
I prefer it to be above 70, otherwise I'm too cold.

>peeve:  watching a pbs show "hate on trial" about the white
>aryan nations/metzgers and about 2/3 of the way through, having
>the audio go to a buzzing like the tracking was off.  it took
>the station half an hour to notice/fix it.  (this was about a

Once I was at the Inwood Theater in Dallas with my friend Jay, and the film
which we were watching broke.  It only took them a few minutes to notice and
begin fixing it, but they weren't watching very carefully, and the film
ended up threaded backwards.

You know how they always told you in school that film sound worked by
having the sound encoded as a picture along the side of the film?  Well,
they were right.  We got to see lots of neat waves moving along the right
side of the screen.  The effect was somewhat similar to that part of
Fantasia (I think it's near to the end of the movie) where they have all
those multicolored waves jumping around the screen.  The only problem was
that we also got to hear the picture, and it didn't sound partcularly
pleasant.


Post-Peeve:  When people use words/phrases with a certain meaning to add
emphasis, even though the denotation of the word does not apply.  For
example, a friend of mine loves to use the word "literally".  She'll say
things like "I literally had to get down on my hands and knees and beg"
when she didn't *literally* do that.  So why does she do this?  Maybe it
has something to do with the fact that she has a British accent and sounds
cool when she says "LIT-rlee".  Another example of this peevesome behavior
is a Charlie Peacock song, part of which goes like this:  "Over a million
tears have had to fall / and that's no exaggeration 'cause I've counted
them all".  Yeah, Charlie, you make good music, but you didn't *count* your
tears - certainly not 1,000,000 of them.

Adios,
  Logan
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: BDI On Board
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 24 Jul 1992 16:28:34 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
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In article <1992Jul24.050058.7625@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> 
allane@earth.gas.unsw.OZ.AU.gas.unsw.OZ.AU (Allan Evans) writes:

>For those of you that have large calibre weapons stored in gun-racks behind
>your head... the signs also are good for target practice. If you're lucky,
>you may also splatter the kid/dog/etc's little excuse for a brain all over
>the windshield. 


I finally got to see the footage of Bud Dwyer's public suicide last night.
It was on this great film called "TV Sphincter" that Andy lent me (see
alt.tasteless for details).

Peeve:  I placed unnecessary wear and tear on the motor of my VCR by
        rewinding the film several times to fully appreciate the
	delicate subtlety of this scene.  Then I found out that it
	was repeated six times in succession, apparently as a special
	service to the connoisseurs in the audience.

Who was that guy, anyway?  I seem to recall that he was a public figure
in Pennsylvania -- the state treasurer, perhaps? -- who got caught up in
some kind of tskandal, maybe misappropriation of state funds or some such
thing.

Could Jenni or Sonja or some other Pennsyltuckian provide details?



Geoff


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From: pmmuggli@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu  (pauline muggli)
Subject: Re: Olympic flame
Originator: mdtll@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, Univ. of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:08:45 GMT

  Gordon.Riddell@prg.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>  In <40075@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> Not Al Crawford says :
 
>|Peeve: the guy didn't miss when he fired the flaming arrow at the Olympic
>|flame. It'd probably have lit anyway, but it'd have been nice if he'd
>|missed.
 
>'Fraid he did miss. The BBC news, I think, showed a side view and the arrow
>clearly went over the bowl and out of the stadium. The flaming arrow ignited
>the gas as it shot past!

i think your concept of "miss" and the spanish olympic
committee's concept of "miss" are different.   they were only
concerned that the flaming arrow passed over the tower and
ignite the gas.  it didn't matter if it landed on the tower or not.
the police had cleared a space outside the stadium for the arrow to
land.  they did a short piece on the whole thing here.  i think out
of 70+ practice shots (by more than one archer) only 2 missed and 
those happened on a windy day.

obolympicpeeve1:  yesterday night, a unified team gymnist fell
off the balance beam.  this ruined her chances of continuing on
to the next step - the individual all around title.  on her next
and final rotation, she did the floor exercises.  when she was
done, she came off the floor crying.  this 15 year old girl was
being comforted by her teammates and some camera person kept
moving around to get a close-up of her tear lined face.  i'm
surprised they didn't shove a microphone in her face and ask her
"what went wrong on that balance beam routine?"  they would have
if she was a usan.  as a matter of fact, they did...

obolympicpeeve2:  the news media talking to janet evans after
she came in second, hearing her say she had no regrets about how
the race came out and the media saying how dissapointed she was
that she didn't get the gold.  it seems to me they did this with
another swimmer too, but i can't remember his name.  the media
seems to take all this "we got more medals than you have" stuff
more seriously than some of the athletes.

pauline

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From: egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: hypocritical Guvmints
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:43:06 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <24021@castle.ed.ac.uk> fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes) writes:
=>Two items in the Politics section of the Peevetown Occasionally this
=>week. Sorry they're both Yookayan and therefore parochial, but even Dan
=>Quayle hasn't done anything to top this crap:
=>
=>Item The First: The Guvmint here has just stomped on the pay rise for
=>the UK academics. 


Mike, my dear cynic, you must have made a mistake! The govt is
EXTREMELY concerned about education, particularly that in the fields
of science and technology. They must be - they say so!! I have the
evidence here to hand, in my handy-dandy copy of the Hansard relating
to the Commons Debate on Science and Technology, June 11, 1992.
MP after MP rose to his/her ponderous feet to say how very important
scientific research is to the future well-being if the country, so if
they're now refusing to pay scientists doing research (at least those
in universities, and Ghod knows, British industry isn't exactly falling
over itself to put money into research!!), then it must be for Very
Good Reasons, which we, being mere voters, could not understand.


Extra peeve: Home owners expecting to be bailed out of the mortgages
which they can no longer afford. Owning a house is an investment -
sometimes the price goes up, sometimes it goes down. If these same
homeowners had sold their houses for a massive profit I don't suppose 
they'd be falling over themselves to put some extra money back into
the kitty, would they? Fuck 'em, I say.a

Extra Extra Peeve: Having finally after much toil achieved the exalted
status of Post-Doctoral Fellow, I thought I might be able to move out
of the over-crowded and sordid hell-hole in which I have been obliged
to serve my time, into something like a proper office, just like
All The Other Post-Docs, but no. Instead I have been offered the possibility
of moving into the Post-Doc Area Of The Hellhole. This involves moving
my boxes of stuff like, say *books* and other things that we intellectuals
find useful from time to time approximately 2 meters across the room.
This is one of the problems of getting a job in the same place where 
you've been a student - people have the habit of treating you like shit
and they just can't get out of that habit. That's why I'm scanning
my mail for nice letters with a Paris post-mark!!
 

-- 
-Jeremy Henderson        egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk   

(or am I?)
From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: "Threaddy's Dead" (Was: Drug testing and welfare)
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<1992Jul27.184207.1@husky1.stmarys.ca> <6!nm2wh@lynx.unm.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:40:29 GMT

<In article <6!nm2wh@lynx.unm.edu> baldwin@carina.unm.edu 
<(Chris Baldwin) writes in a high, Curtis Mayfield falsetto:

<	   This is patently false, unless you are a fascist. 
						    ^^^^^^^^
<  By the same token, the people under the Stalin's government still
					   ^^^^^^

<   are a fascist and think that our rights are defined by the government and
	  ^^^^^^^

<	   Now I've gone and mentioned the Nazi's, so this thread is
					   ^^^^^^

ObCurtisMayfield:

	"Threaddy's dead.....that's what I said......"

	They don't get any deader than this.

<   ObPeeve(I doubt anyone actually made it this far, so I might as well
<   throw in a slightly compu-nerdy peeve.): News has started recycling
<   articles lately. Old ones show up again and 2 copies of new ones have
<   been appearing for the last coupla days. The problem seems to have
<   cleared up, but it is annoying when something like this happens.

	GASP! WHAT? 

	How can you oppose recycling old articles? Think of all
	the trees that recycling old articles saves? Recycling
	old articles helps fight The Limits To Growth! Recycling
	old articles helps fight Global Warming.

<   Chris Baldwin                | Robert Johnson invented the pickle! 
<   baldwin@carina.unm.edu       |                         - Adam Reid

	Sigh. Sad to see, Baldwin becoming a tree-burner.
From: cs226a030@husky1.stmarys.ca
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Chimpanzees/Olympic Games
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:31:37 GMT
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada

In article <40284@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk>, Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford) writes:
> And lo, egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page) spake unto the masses saying:
>>
>> You mean you actually CHOSE to watch the opening ceremony?  The most
>> tedious and americophilic part of the entire peevesome caboodle?
>>
>> Am I the only one who sees some slight inconsistency here?
> 
> No inconsistency when you consider that...
> 
> 1. I only watched the actual procession of the teams, none of that weird
>    surreal "Disneyland on drugs" dancy stuff.

ExplanationOfPeeve : I believe the score was written by Angelo Badalamanti 
The man who scored Twin Peaks

PeaksPeeve: I missed this, and I wouls have LOOOOOOOOVVVVVVED to have seen it.
The only worthwile thing in the whole olympics (small o to denote their lack of
importance to me).

PeaksPeeve #2 : There's a big festival (Twin Peaks festival) planned this
August and I live on the other end of the f**king continent!

Ah well...
Mike
From: fofp@castle.ed.ac.uk (M Holmes)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Trundling along, looking for the right bandwagon
Date: 21 Jul 92 12:07:37 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

yarvin@highlite.uucp (Curtis Yarvin) writes:

>In article <1992Jul15.154727.29919@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>>!Peeve:  High quality science fiction.

Well, I guess it's time to come out of the SF closet....
>>
>>Old ones:  Heinlein, Elison, Clarke, Kornbluth, Pohl, LeGuin, others.

>Slop-mongers all.

Well, I liked Pohl's Gateway books.

>>New ones:  Dan Simmons, Orson Scott Card, Steve Perry, Dennis Schmidt

>Dan Simmons writes cheesy horror for people who don't like to admit that
>they read horror.  Orson Scott Card writes fuzzy fantasies for people who
>never outgrew their teddy-bears.

Just finished Ender's Game and Speaker for the Dead. The plot in the
second book was a little contrived in places, but I enjoyed 'em.


>Steve Perry and Dennis Schmidt I've never heard of, and likely for good
>reason.

I also liked Schmidt's Kensho books.

>>Great new books:
>>                  The Matador series, Steve Perry
>>                  The Labyrinth books, Dennis Schmidt

>It takes a certain amount of shamelessness to publicly admit liking any SF
>work that calls itself the "X series" or the "Y books," one of the major
>marks of the pure sewage that's infests the field, where writers write
>sequel upon thousand-page sequel because they're too lame to come up with a
>new idea every book - but Don B. is up to the task.

Sod it. I also recommend Stableford's Grainger series and Zelazny's
first Amber series (do not read the second series, I have trouble even
believing that Zelazny is writing 'em).

>!Peeve: there's at least one genuine SF writer on this group.  But I
>doubt he'll admit it in public...

!peeve: peer pressure: Just say "no".

>c

FoFP
From: banta@blagg.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: The Peever's Dictionary, Volume II
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:14:57 GMT
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(Chris "Ghost Mustard" Baldwin) writes:
>In article <l6mas0INNrh4@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> banta@blagg.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>>there's both an East Baldwin and
>>West Baldwin in Maine.
>	No need for that. Don can have one and I will take the other.

You'd have to rename them Left Bladwin and Right Baldwin, but I
think we could make it go.

>I would be forced to retaliate by calling for an exorcist. Then you'd be
>sorry.

I look forward to the oppurtunity to vomit blood on your walls.

"I'll that demon removed so fast her head will spin."
                               --- outtake from "The Exorcist"

drew
banta@abingdon.sun.com
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chordata.  I don't do invertebrates."  - JZ
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