HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au (Rob Logie)
Subject: Mail feed to Mozambique (Maputo)
Summary: Does any one know of any Feeds to Mozambique
Organization: Telecom Australia, TNE Computer Support Services
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:21:22 GMT

Does any one know of any mail feeds to Mozambique, or feeds in near by Countries that may be willing to supply a feed.



Thanks in Advance.



-- 
Rob Logie                         | The opions expressed are mine alone and in
Telecom Australia ACN 051 775 556 | no-way reflect the views or policies of the
TNE Computer Support Services     | Australian and Overseas Telecommunications
EMAIL: logier@cheops.qld.tne.oz.au| Corporation. "These are my opinions alone"
Xref: sparky comp.mail.misc:3978 comp.mail.uucp:2321
From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:24:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1gjj5oINN9ll
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography
NNTP-Posting-Host: skyking.oce.orst.edu

In article <CKD.92Dec14003606@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>JS> == John Stanley <stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU>
>
> JS> Neither of these puts me in charge of my little section of the DNS.
> JS> They put me in contact with someone else, who is in charge of my
> JS> little section. Not the same thing.
>
>Then my boss isn't really in charge of the machines at my site, because he
>has to go through one of the sysadmins to make a configuration change?

There is a bit of a difference between your boss, who is in charge of
the system admins who make the changes, and me, who is in charge of
nobody at the site who maintains my DNS records. Unless you think that
having someone keep an MX record for you somehow makes you in charge of
the person doing it.

>course, such programs are easily written, made group-executable, and
>installed, in order to give the proper "feeling of control" to people like
>you.

Just what people are "people like" me? You seem to be missing the point
of what is being said here and wandering into insult. I am not
complaining about not being able to control "my section of the DNS",
only trying to correct an erronious statement that anyone can. I have
said that twice, now. Will it sink in this time?

>If no mail arrives at this site for an hour, something's wrong.  Your site
>may vary.  If *nobody* sends you mail, don't you wonder why?

Please explain how I am to tell the difference between nobody sending
me mail and my site not receiving any mail. It has been 30 minutes here
since I've gotten any mail. Is there a problem? (Could be, I've spent
most of today trying to work around a bogosity in sendmail.) My UUCP
site hasn't gotten any mail for the last two days. Is there a problem?

Until there is a known piece of mail missing, I have no idea whether
nothing has been sent or it was sent and bounced. 

> JS> And sites can do routing without keeping the entire UUCP maps on their
> JS> local disk, or even local net.
>
>That's not doing routing.  That's doing punting.

Routing, punting, same difference. The mail is being sent somewhere that
it can be taken care of. It might not be the most direct route, but it
is being forwarded on A route. Neither pathalias nor DNS guarantee the
most direct or lowest cost routes.
From: nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Internet to Compuserv
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:11:22 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In <1992Dec16.180338.24220@ms.uky.edu> uk02118@nx12.mik.uky.edu (Dave 
Voelker) asks:

> Would someone please tell me how to get mail from Internet to a compuServ
> account.  I tried xxxx.xxxx@compuserv.com but it bounced.

Try spelling the domain name correctly.  We're not yet at the point where
a mailer can figure out what you're trying to say when you misspell it.

Ric <nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil>  <nauen%wrmain.decnet@detrick-emh1.army.mil>
           ^^^^^Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
        U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

whois compuserv.
CompuServe Incorporated (NET-COMPUSERVE) COMPUSERVE           149.174.0.0
CompuServe, Inc. (COMPUSERVE-DOM)                          COMPUSERVE.COM

Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 06:31:51 GMT

In article <1gh3nnINNk1c@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:
>So? I haven't claimed otherwise. All I am trying to do is counter the
>silly claim that anyone can be in charge of their part of the DNS.

	You're confusing being "in charge" with having direct access.
That's what heirarchies are for.  If you register a domain of addresses,
(say widget.com, with the nameserver at coyote.acme.edu) you are in charge
of what goes on within widget.com.  It is up to the hostmaster at
coyote.acme.edu to say how much access you have to the database.

	The case may be that you own one Internet-connected machine,
and are in charge of dozens of UUCP-only machines.  Then you can have
direct access of all parts of the database.  The individual needs of
the administrator can be changed to fit the situation.  (Hey, was
thinking a few hours ago about writing up a little program that could
be used to make DNS updates via mail.  It'd actually be pretty easy and
safe if combined with something like PGP.

	In reality only a small percentage would actually need such a
system.  MX records are set up once and promptly forgotten for years.)
Pathalias, on the other hand, by design forces a central authority for
database updates.  Also, since the central authority is in no way
familar with the hosts it registers, there's lots of hosts in the maps
that have disappeared, but were fortten to be taken out of the maps.
(although this is probably just as true with the .US domain)

--Dave
-- 
System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
  "An analogy is like instant coffee: it can wake you up, but it's
  not the real thing"  -- Peter da Silva
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: o.CRepin-leblond@ic.ac.UK (Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond, Olivier M.J. 
      Crepin-Leblond)
Subject: Re: Santa?
Organization: Imperial College, London, UK.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:56:02 GMT

>From: bbirch@hemel.bull.co.uk (Bill Birch)
>Subject: Santa?
>Message-ID: <1992Dec11.113515.18203@uk03.bull.co.uk>
>Sender: @uk03.bull.co.uk
>
>A collegue gave me Santa Claus's email address as follows:
>
> 
>> 
>> S.Claus@arctic.circle.np 
>
>However the mailer daemon cannot deliver to this address. Can
>anyone shed some light on this problem please?
>
>Ta
>
>Bill

I'm affraid to have to inform you that your colleague is pulling your
leg. The .np top level domain is one for Nepal, which is quite a way
away from the North Pole.
You may want to try with .fi (Finland), .is (Iceland), .no (Norway),
.int (International), or perhaps .nt (Neutral Zone).
;-)

O.


-- 
Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond, Digital Comms. Section, Elec. Eng. Department
 Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine, London SW7 2BT, UK
       Internet/Bitnet: <foobar@ic.ac.uk> - Janet: <foobar@uk.ac.ic>

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From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,mi.sun,mi.misc
Subject: Re: Email trivia
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:47:39 GMT
Followup-To: comp.mail.misc,mi.sun,mi.misc
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Ken Jongsma (ken@wybbs.mi.org) wrote:

: If you are on the pay per message plan, you have the option of
: returning a message unread to avoid paying for it. That generates the
: postage due message.

Hm.  Do they get to see the "Subject" line?  Sounds like a good free
way to send very short messages to Compuserve subscribers...just like
the old "make a collect call home to yourself" trick to tell someone that
you arrived at your destination.

--Ed

(of course i do not advocate toll fraud)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Mixed format addresses
Originator: barr@darwin.pop.psu.edu
Supersedes: <bd71Hxwabb@atlantis.psu.edu>
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 22:49:26 GMT

In article <eBmLVB4w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
>You'll NEVER have the case where EVERYONE is registered in MX.

You'll never have the case where EVERYONE is registered in the UUCP maps,
what's your point?

>Even so, the
>MX system could soon be overwhelmed by the load of systems joining one domain
>or another.

For God's sake what are you talking about?  I suggest you get some
real-world experience with the internet mail world before you make
statements like this that have no factual basis whatsoever.

>Perhaps I'll be proven wrong.. but I don't see how this system
>of managing email routing is any better (by itself) than pathalias in its
>management of system resources or in its ability to properly route email.

Which one is larger?  (DNS)  Which one is easier to update?  (DNS)
Which one is more reliable?  (DNS)  Which one is faster?  (DNS)
Which one is is fat and prone to neglect? (pathalias)
Which one comes standard with most vendors' flavor of UNIX? (DNS)

--Dave
-- 
System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
End of article 2565 (of 2565)--what next? [npq]
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: willis@evax0.eng.fsu.edu
Subject: e-mail headers
Organization: Famu/Fsu College of Engineering
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:15:01 EST

Hello,

    I am interested in learning more about how to decipher e-mail 
    headers and was wondering if there is any documentation available 
    on an anonymous ftp site somewhere.  As an example, I included 
    the following line extracted from a recent mail message I received:


             <921217155244.22202e59@EVAX0.ENG.FSU.EDU> 


    I know that 921217 is the date and that 155244 is the time the message 
    was sent/received, but I don't know what .22202e59 means (given - I 
    knew the name of the sender from the other header information that was 
    excluded).  If there is some documentation or books around that 
    describe this example as well as other aspects of e-mail and e-mail 
    headers, I would be glad to find out how to access it.  Thanks in 
    advance.

+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+


======================================================================
 Russell E. Willis                             
 FSU/AC&NS: Academic Computing and Networking Services
 Tallahassee, Fl. 32310
                                             
 e-mail:      willis@evax0.eng.fsu.edu
              willis@mailer.acns.fsu.edu
              willis@loligo.acns.fsu.edu        

 *
 * Disclaimer: "The opinions expressed herein are mine alone and not   
 *              those of Academic Computing and Networking Services."
 *                                                          --R.E.W.--
======================================================================
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
From: Karl_Kleinpaste@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Internet to Compuserv
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:08:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BzDHIM.5Eo.2
Organization: Carnegie-Mellon Univ, Nectar Project

uk02118@nx12.mik.uky.edu writes:
   I tried xxxx.xxxx@compuserv.com but it bounced.

compuservE
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,news.newusers.questions
From: bruce@blilly.UUCP (Bruce Lilly)
Subject: Re: Using rn killfile
Organization: Bruce Lilly
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 19:26:58 GMT
Followup-To: news.newusers.questions
Reply-To: lilb@sony.compuserve.com (Bruce Lilly)

In article <1992Dec10.170357.16798@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> barr@tramp.Colorado.EDU (BARR DOUG) wrote:
>We use rn (readnews) to read the internet news. I know how to use k or K
>to kill or KILL a certain subject, but how do I kill a post by who has
>sent it. For instance I want to kill all posts by (Bad Boy).??
>Would appreciate reply. Thanks in advance!!!

/barr@.*COLORADO\.EDU/h:j

will junk all articles which contain your address in any of the
headers (specified by h:).  The domain part of the address will
be matched without regard to case. Also, the specific host or
subdomain within Colorado.EDU won't matter. Obiously, you'll want to
substitute the address (or other string) that you want to
match.

A control-k should fire up your editor on the relevant KILL file.

By the way, you should have posted your question to
news.newusers.questions, rather than to comp.mail.misc, since it
obviously has nothing to do with mail. I have redirected
followups there.

-- 
	Bruce Lilly		blilly!bruce@Broadcast.Sony.COM
					...uunet!sonyusa!sonyd1!blilly!bruce
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: davecb@nexus.yorku.ca (David Collier-Brown)
Subject: Re: sendmail probs? advice please
Organization: York University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 00:57:21 GMT

arnold@stat.ncsu.edu (Tim Arnold) writes:
|I'm worried about a high volume of mail requests--I am running
|a Sun Sparc IPX, SunOS 4.1.3, OW 3, unix listserv, gopher and
|squirrel mail server.  I'm using the standard sendmail that came
|on the machine.

|My question is: what mta should I be using? If sendmail is a problem,
|why is it a problem?

  The usual problems are twofold:
	a) sendfail(8), and
	b) performance

(a) can be achieved by attempting to program in the senamail
production language: rumor has it even the author can't remember
how it really works (:-)).

(b) is related to sendmail's desire to fork instead of queue. It
is trivial to stop a small machine (like a NeXT cube, for example)
by mailing to a large mailing-list.  Sendmail's overload-avoidance
is seriously flawed.

  On the other hand, I can say good things about zmailer:
	a) its very low load: I had a sun 3/60 acting as the mailhub
	   of the second-largets Canadian university, and it only
	   slowed down when someone uucp'd compresses news to it.
	   I couldn't even tell if mail was running from xload, and 
	   faked up a queue-indicator to show me tat it was alive.
	b) it handles large mailing lsists well
	c) it's dead easy to install.  Large, but dead easy.
	d) the routing doesn't se rewriting
	e) the routing code is written in a language designed for
	   unix nerds to program in: it's deliberatly similar to sh.

--dave (a happy customer) c-b
-- 
David Collier-Brown,  | davecb@CCS.YorkU.CA | lethe!dave
72 Abitibi Ave.,      | 
Willowdale, Ontario,  | York Postmaster and
CANADA. 416-223-8968  | occasional sendfail(8) consultant.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.elm
From: eotto@cbnews.cb.att.com (erick.otto)
Subject: Mail Manager (maybe within elm)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:52:47 GMT
Keywords: mail, elm, manager

All,

	A question and maybe idea.

	I get mail from all over the world, and also need to keep them around
	for a while.  What I really need is some sort of mail manager that for
	example can :

		1) Read a mailbox properly and catagorize messages loke elm.

		2) Can delete messages by:

			sender
			date (older than)
			etc 
			etc.

		3) Reshuffle the order of messages.

		4) Search all folders for subject/From or contents.

		*) all extra things...

	Does anybody know if something like this already exists. If not maybe 
	this could be like an enhancement to elm...

	Please let me know your opinions/info of locations of code etc ...



	Thanks,

		Erick Otto
		eotto@cbnews.att.com
		eotto@hvlpa.att.com
		AT&T Network Systems International.



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From: stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:35:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1gjjqrINN9o8
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography
NNTP-Posting-Host: skyking.oce.orst.edu

In article <Bz8q7n.293@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us> mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst) writes:
>And from what you're saying, you don't really want to be in charge of
>your own little section of the DNS because it's too much trouble to do
>correctly.

It would be nice, but I don't need to be in charge of it. 

>So, register in the .US domain, where there are nice people at ISI to
>take care of the nitty-gritty details for you.

Why? Isn't my current MX record adequate?  I seem to recall saying that
I was aware of wildcard MX's because I already had one.

>Okay, so the root nameservers is "someone".  I still think it's a lot
>more reliable and efficient to store 32 bits of information on each of
>a dozen machines -- especially when that data changes very rarely --
>than it is to store 500 bytes or so of data on each of thousands of
>hosts.

So, don't store 500 bytes or so of data for thousands of hosts.

>Registering in the .US domain is no more difficult than
>registering in the UUCP maps, and you won't even have to find another
>machine to connect to if you're already talking to an
>Internet-connected machine who is willing to forward mail for you.  

Uhh, let's see here. If I register in the UUCP maps, I don't need to
find any other machine to talk to, whether on the Internet or not. If I
register in the .US domain, I need to be talking to an Internet
connected machine who is willing to forward mail to me. If I am not,
then I need to find one. The latter seems to be more effort than the
former.
From: nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: E-MAIL Address in Kuwait Needed
Date: 15 Dec 1992 18:10:28 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In <Bz6AAJ.8F@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> angelboy@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (No One 
At The Bridge) asks:

> DOes anyone know the E-mail address for the University of Kuwait in 
> Kuwait?

If that's the same as Kuwait University, then it's ukwt.kw, but it may
not be working at this time.  More specific information may be available
from postmaster@icm1.icp.net.


Ric <nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil>  <nauen%wrmain.decnet@detrick-emh1.army.mil>
           ^^^^^Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
        U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

Whois: kuwait university
Kuwait University (NET-UKWT-NET)
   P.O. Box 5969
   Safat 13060
   KUWAIT
   Netname: UKWT-NET
   Netnumber: 139.141.0.0
   Coordinator:
      Al-Sadoun, Humoud B.  (HBA2)  AL-SADOUN@UKWT.KW
      483-4506
   Record last updated on 03-Jan-91.
   There is one known host:
   AWAL1.UKWT.KW                139.141.1.1

Whois: dom kw
GulfNet Kuwait/Ministry of Communications (KW-DOM)
   P.O. Box  27950
   Safat 13140
   KUWAIT
   Domain Name: KW
   Domain Status: On Hold Pending Server Activation
   Administrative Contact:
      Pacello, Frank  (FP30)  rcollet@ICM1.ICP.NET
      +965-242-6728 Fax: +965-242-6720
   Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Subramania, A.  (AS169)  rcollet@ICM1.ICP.NET
      +965-481-1188 ext 7104
   Record last updated on 27-Oct-92.
   Domain servers in listed order:
   AWAL1.UKWT.KW                139.141.1.1
   ICM1.ICP.NET                 192.94.207.66

Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (DWT)
Subject: Re: Help sending Internet to MCI Mail
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:15:25 GMT
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657

drudetb@infonode.ingr.com (Ted B. Drude) wrote in
<1992Dec7.172550.11595@infonode.ingr.com>:

| I'd send mail to the MCI address in this form: John Doe/123-4567@mcimail.com.

So send it to 1234567@mcimail.com and leave the name off.  There can be many
John Does but only one 1234567, so the name is extraneous.  Moreover, spaces
and slashes in the local part of an address are rather non-standard and might
be spooking your own mailer.

| Does anyone have an 800 number for MCI mail customer service?

1 800 444 6245, but I don't know if they'll assist a non-customer.  You may
have to get a friend who has an account there to place the call for you.  He
or she can also send email within MCI Mail to "mci help".

Now that their Internet gateway is out of testing and is a fully supported
official service, they should have some answers.

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com    CompuServe: 73720,1570    MCI Mail: 426-1818
From: PMW1@psuvm.psu.edu (Peter M. Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: SMTP mail on MVS/IBM
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:50:59 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Dec14.143309.22336@statoil.no>, adne@ddb.be.statoil.no (Adne
Hestenes) says:

>Does anybody know of something called UCLA mail, which is supposed
>to be an user agent for MVS, or something similare?

UCLA Mail has been discussed frequently on the IBMTCP-L Listserv
list.  Send the following "job" to listserv@pucc.princeton.edu

-------------------clip begin---------------
//ListSrch JOB Echo=no
Database Search DD=Rules
//Rules DD *
search ucla mail in ibmtcp-l since 92
index date.8 sender.30 subject.40
print
-------------------clip end-----------------

/Pete (pmw1@psuvm.psu.edu)
--
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31 Shields Bldg -- Penn State Univ.| "Connectivity is more than a Connection"
University Park, PA USA 16802-1202 | E. Michael Staman, _The Circuit_, Apr 92
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 15:18:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.163210.12770@becker.GTS.ORG> uucpadm@becker.gts.org writes:
>	It seems logical for sites which are Internet/UUCP
>	gateways to declare MX records for all the systems
>	that they publish in their pathalias map entries -
>
>
>		sitex.uucp.	MX	10	mail.mysys.mydom.
>		sitey.uucp.	MX	10	mail.mysys.mydom.
>		...
>
>	I know we don't do this at my workplace, but there
>	seems no obvious reason not to do so.

	Most mailers are configured by default to not do DNS lookups on
certain specified domains.  (Most notably .UUCP, .BITNET, and the
now-gone .CSNET)  This is to save undue wear-and tear on the root
nameservers.

	Even if this were not so, with DNS there's no way for one site
to just "declare MX records" for .UUCP and have them be seen by just
anyone.  _One_ site has to be declared as "authoratative" for entire
.UUCP pseudo-domain in order for anything to work consistently.  How is
my mailer going to know what nameserver to look at to resolve the MX
for "becker.UUCP"?

--Dave
-- 
System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
	What if there was no such thing as a hypothetical question?
From: 92636828s@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: email to President of Austria
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:30:56 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

Does anyone know the email-address of the President of Austria Dr. Thomas
Klestil?
					
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