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From: molly@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Mark Ollila)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: HIV transmission Question
Keywords: HIV transmission
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:15:35 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
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Archive-Number: 5883

Just a brief question. 

This is the scenario:

Female is HIV+.
Male is not.

NO CONDOM is used.

Male has NO open cuts or wounds on penis or on body.
NO kissing is performed.
Male ejaculates in female.
Male DOES NOT perform oral sex on female.

Female does perform oral sex on male.

Can the male be infected by the HIV virus? 

Mark.

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From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Request for Information: CMV
Keywords: Not HIV+, but CMV+. Still not fun.
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:56:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Aug19.192756.17289
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 5921

Greetings.

	In late November of 1990, I took ill, and was tested for Mono.  The
doctor informed me that I didn't have Mono, but _did_ have CMV.  I asked him
what it was, he told me to go look it up.  He then went on vacation [to
Bermuda, I believe].  I looked it up, grasped the basic concept of it, and
spent 3 weeks sleeping, trying to eat jello, and taking Nuprin.  After that
I felt pretty much better, and went on with life.  The doctor returned from
his vacation, and asked me to come in for further blood tests.  I [politely]
told him to pack sand.  [I don't appreciate doctors who won't give me
information about illnesses, particularly the going-on-vacation ones].

	Recently, I had a cold, and a friend of mine also had a cold.  We
spend large amounts of time in each other's company, colds or not.  She now
has some of the preliminary symptoms of a CMV infection - swollen lymph
nodes in her neck, extreme fatigue, high fever.  She's getting tested
tomorrow.  We are, as the song says, hoping for the best but expecting the
worst.

	I have been told in recent days that CMV has a tendency to remain
in someone, latent or inactive, and reactivate if their immune system drops
or if the CMV is transferred into someone else's body.  I've also been told
that I may not be immune to CMV, and may only have an inactive case of it.

	Right now, as a 'CMV survivor' I have a good bit more general 
knowledge of the critter than the average man on the street.  However, I
don't know as much about it as the average expert.  I'd like to learn more.

	I'm very concerned as to what the current risk is, both to myself
and to those around me.  I'd like to find out how it can be transmitted,
exactly how much damage it does to what, what triggers it, and what 
secondary infections should be guarded against.  I'd _especially_ like to
find out whether there's any way to zap it when it's inactive.

	Another thing I should note is that I have not tested positive for
HIV, so it's not something that's going to outright kill me, at least not
this week.

	-Shag
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From: rdh@veritas.com (Robert Hartman)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Re: HIV transmission Question
Keywords: HIV transmission
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:31:56 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software
Note: non-commercial reproduction.
Archive-Number: 5888

In article <1992Aug12.133630.28751@cs.ucla.edu> molly@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Mark Ollila) writes:
>Just a brief question. 
>
>This is the scenario:
>
>Female is HIV+.
>Male is not.
>
>NO CONDOM is used.
>
>Male has NO open cuts or wounds on penis or on body.
>NO kissing is performed.
>Male ejaculates in female.
>Male DOES NOT perform oral sex on female.
>
>Female does perform oral sex on male.
>
>Can the male be infected by the HIV virus? 
>
>Mark.

Yes.  The virus can enter through the opening of the urethra.  Seminal
fluid neutralizes any traces of urine, making the urethral tract fairly
hospitable for the virus or infected cells.  Any pumping action during
intercourse can force vaginal secretions that contain the virus up into
the urethra, where they can then be absorbed through the lining of the
mucous membrane.

The chances of this happening are much lower than that of a female
becoming infected from contact with a male, but the odds I've heard are
only 20:1.  Considering the effects of the disease, this isn't enough
for me to be sanguine.

If you've been having unprotected sex, get tested _now._

If it turns up negative, _get_tested_again_after_six_months._  And at
very least, always use a condom until both partners have tested
negative after six months of low-risk behavior (e.g., monogamy with
condoms).

There are some very good, very thin, condoms on the market these days.
The thin ones probably aren't sturdy enough for rough play, but a
person doesn't need the extra sensitivity for that.

-r
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From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Four Obituaries
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 5926
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 05:29:40 GMT

[The first two are derived from the San Francisco Chronicle, Tuesday, August 
 18, 1992.  The second two are for people that I knew.]

LINDA J. LAUBENSTEIN 

Age 45, at her summer home in Chatham, Massachusetts.  An autopsy is
pending.  She had severe asthma, and childhood polio had left her a
paraplegic at the age of 5. 

Dr. Laubenstein was described by Larry Kramer as "incredibly important in
the history of AIDS, a genuine pioneer and a real fighter for what she
believed."   She inspired the character of Dr. Emma Brookner in Kramer's
play "The Normal Heart". 

Jeffrey Greene, a colleague, called her "the ultimate AIDS physician".  She
met patients in the emergency room in the middle of the night and even made
house calls, not an easy thing to do if your transportation is a wheelchair
and public buses in New York City. 

Dr. Laubenstein and Dr. Alvin Friedman-Klein wrote the first paper to be
published in a medical journal on the appearance of Kaposi's Sarcoma in
young gay men.  By May 1982 she had seen 62 patients with AIDS - a quarter
of all the cases in the whole country. 

She and Dr. Friedman-Klein arranged the first full-scale AIDS conference,
in 1983, and helped found the Kaposi's Sarcoma Research Fund.  In 1989, she
and Jeffrey Greene started Multitasking, a non-profit which contracted
office services to businesses, using PWA's as workers.  She was concerned
that PWA's often lost their jobs, and felt that work was essential to
physical and emotional health, as well as for financial support. 

She was critical of the government's neglect in failing to fight AIDS.  She
also argued for the closure of bathhouses.

TOMMY NUTTER

Age 49, in London, England. 

He was a tailor whose clients included the Rolling Stones and Michael
Jackson.  He pioneered flared trousers and wide lapels in the 1960's. 

His best known costumes were those worn by the Beatles on the cover of
"Abbey Road". 

ROB BERNARDO

Age 40, in Concord, California. 

Ron was a regular poster on soc.motss, and an occasional poster on
sci.med.aids.  He posted to rec.gardens, and was a member of the Elm testing 
group.  Rob was active in the gay rodeo circuit.  He is survived by his
mother, his sister, his horse Oriana Spadix, and thousands of soc.motss
readers. 

JAY TYSON 

I don't know many details on Jay's death.  He had not been well for a long
time, but had participated in sci.med.aids and soc.motss.  He was also
active in local amateur opera groups. 

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From: manley@optilink.com (Dave Manley)
Subject: Re: The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS (was Re: CDC Summary 8/12/92)
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 5929
Organization: DSC/Optilink Access Products
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:00:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.011352.2577@cs.ucla.edu> bhjelle%carina.unm.edu@lynx.unm.edu writes:

>"Not at risk" is a dangerous phrase. Such a person is at "lower
>risk" (as long as prevalence among heterosexuals remains relatively
>low), but definitely not "not at risk". Among women, there is
>a very definite possibility of contracting HIV from one or a few
>sexual contacts with an HIV(+) man. HIV(+) heterosexual men are
>less rare all the time. And there are plenty of men who will
>mislead partners about past drug use or homosexual activity.

Your are absolutely correct, I should not have used "Not at risk".
That is an understatement much like the overstatement to which Fumento
responds.  (The 'net' speeds the process of learning to write
precisely like no other medium I have found, my apologies for being a
slow student and forcing you to be my teacher.)

--
dave
manley@optilink.com
From: military@cbnews.att.com
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Duesberg
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:13:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Aug19.192709.17169
Organization: AT&T
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 5920

I'd like to get some information on a controversial AIDS researcher named
Duesberg.  He's been covered in an article in this month's National
Review.  He proposed a theory that AIDS is not caused by HIV, but rather 
by some other mechanism, and to hear NR tell it, has been made a pariah by 
the AIDS research community for daring to disagree.

I suspect that NR is leaving out quite a bit of the story (like the other
side 8-), so I'm hoping that some of the readers here can tell me more 
about Duesberg and his theories.

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From: jbone@manufing.dell.com (Jeff Bone)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: acyclovir & HIV (?)
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:54:02 GMT
Organization: Dell Computer Co
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 5927

Lots of noise lately about the effectiveness of acyclovir in combination
with other drugs...  wondering if this referring to effectiveness against
HIV itself or effectiveness against other viruses (CMV, herpesvirus, etc.)
leading to an overall reduction of viral OI?

If acyclovir is directly effective vs HIV, why isn't it promoted as such?

Just a $0.02 question...

jb

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From: dks@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (douglas.k.steckel)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Re: HIV transmission Question
Keywords: HIV transmission
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:49:03 GMT
Organization: AT&T
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 5915

In article <1992Aug13.030451.29278@cs.ucla.edu> rdh@veritas.com (Robert Hartman) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.133630.28751@cs.ucla.edu> molly@krang.vis.citri.edu.au (Mark Ollila) writes:
>>Just a brief question. 
>>
>>This is the scenario:
>>
>>Female is HIV+.
>>Male is not.
>>
>>NO CONDOM is used.
>>
>>Male has NO open cuts or wounds on penis or on body.
>>NO kissing is performed.
>>Male ejaculates in female.
>>Male DOES NOT perform oral sex on female.
>>
>>Female does perform oral sex on male.
>>
>>Can the male be infected by the HIV virus? 
>>
>>Mark.
>
>Yes.  The virus can enter through the opening of the urethra.  Seminal
>fluid neutralizes any traces of urine, making the urethral tract fairly
>hospitable for the virus or infected cells.  Any pumping action during
>intercourse can force vaginal secretions that contain the virus up into
>the urethra, where they can then be absorbed through the lining of the
>mucous membrane.
>
>The chances of this happening are much lower than that of a female
>becoming infected from contact with a male, but the odds I've heard are
>only 20:1.  Considering the effects of the disease, this isn't enough
>for me to be sanguine.
>
>If you've been having unprotected sex, get tested _now._
>
>If it turns up negative, _get_tested_again_after_six_months._  And at
>very least, always use a condom until both partners have tested
>negative after six months of low-risk behavior (e.g., monogamy with
>condoms).
>
>There are some very good, very thin, condoms on the market these days.
>The thin ones probably aren't sturdy enough for rough play, but a
>person doesn't need the extra sensitivity for that.
>
>-r

Another question...

Same scenario as above but a condom is used.

Please post replies 

Thanks
From: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: HIV 1 vs. HIV 2 and SIV
Date: 17 Aug 92 17:08:54 GMT
Reply-To: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 5916

What is the difference between HIV-1, HIV-2 and SIV?
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
From: heath@athena.cs.uga.edu (Terrance Heath)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Re: Saran Wrap
Keywords: safe sex, saran wrap, oral sex, HIV
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:08:33 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Note: non-commercial reproduction.
Archive-Number: 5907

In article <1992Aug15.012901.18296@cs.ucla.edu> acase@reed.edu (Andrew Case) writes:
>
>	I have seen a number of references to the use of Saran Wrap
>in oral sex as a means of preventing HIV transmission. A few weeks
>ago, I read that the pores in Saran Wrap are sufficiently large to 
>allow the passage of HIV through the plastic. Unfortunately, I 
>failed to note the source of this information. Could people
>please post or email me any information they have on this topic? 
>I am interested in _all_ information, no matter what the source. 
>However, I am most interested in information originating from NIH, 
>WHO, or other organizations likely to be somewhat paranoid in checking
>their facts.
>

This is new to me, and if it is true I'll have to change the
information I give out in my "Safer Sex Education" programs.  Thus
far, I've been telling people that saran wrap is an option, so long as
they do not use 'microwavable' saran wrap, which is definitely porous.
I'd like to know if the same is true for the regular stuff, if anyone
has any idea.

-- 
"Black men loving black men is THE revolutionary act!"
			-Joseph Beam_
Terrance Heath 
heath@athena.cs.uga.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
From: sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer)
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
Subject: Re: The Myth of Heterosexual AIDS
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:26:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Aug19.193032.17472
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 5925

In article <1992Aug15.010731.17552@cs.ucla.edu> lcc!uunet!mailrus!gatech!mit-eddie!CUNYVM!SECBH.mitvma!BITNET.mit.edu@CS.UCLA.EDU writes:
>
>The overwhelming number of IV drug users are heterosexual.  They
>infect other heterosexuals.  Unless one chooses to ignore their
>sexual orientation, AIDS is a heterosexual problem and seems to be
>becoming increasingly.
>
>Nevertheless, despite the general level of disdain for the social
>groups from which IV drug users come -- they are heterosexual.

True. The drug users themselves are at extremely great risk of
infection, and their partners are at somewhat less risk, but still
an unacceptably high level.

However, because of the extremely low incidence of female-to-male
transmission, HIV infection will NOT escape into the general
heterosexual population in great numbers because of this. Most of the (male)
IV drug users will eventually die of AIDS, many of their (female)
partners will, but few if any other non-drug-users will catch it from
them, even if the HIV+ girlfriend of the drug user has sex with
other men. So the mechanism for an epidemic in the heterosexual
population is not in place.

-- 
  
        Robert Sheaffer - Scepticus Maximus - sheaffer@netcom.com
  
 Past Chairman, The Bay Area Skeptics - for whom I speak only when authorized!

       "Beware when the great God lets loose a thinker on this planet.
        Then all things are at risk. It is as when a conflagration has
        broken out in a great city, and no man knows what is safe, or
        where it will end."
                               - Emerson: Essay, "Circles"
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From: Billi Goldberg <bigoldberg@igc.apc.org>
Subject: Letter to SF Sentinel
Note: non-commercial reproduction.
Archive-Number: 5891
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 07:38:26 PDT

The following letter was printed in the Thursday, August 13, 1992, issue 
of the San Francisco Sentinel, page 16.
************************************************************************
DELANEY BLASTED

  In a recent CNN Cable News interview, Martin Delaney of Project Inform 
decries the "boosterism" practiced by those who advocate the use of 
DNCB, apparently choosing to ignore the medical and anecdotal reports of 
its efficacy in treating HIV disease. Where does this little man with 
the compensatory ego get off saying, "that isn't scientific; its 
boosterism", when, without the slightest hint of embarrassment, he'll 
take a whopping cash payoff from Burroughs-Wellcome to be a booster for 
AZT?

  Delaney says the advocates of DNCB are operating from a "preconceived 
premise" they had before ever using it. That, if it were true, isn't 
scientific, as he so adroitly points out. But the preconceived premise 
behind AZT and the financial machinery driving it is devoid of any 
scientific credibility whatever. The only 'preconceived premise' behind 
AZT is corporate greed. Answer this, Martin: are the backers of DNCB in 
it for the money?

  If you're so hot for science, you should be able to show at least ONE 
scientific paper describing an AZT study, carried full term, showing 
some clearcut benefit from this monster drug. You can't because no such 
paper exists. To the contrary, AZT studies carried to full term, such as 
the British-French Lancet study of 1988, show that the initial 
"benefit", a slight rise in T4 cell levels, is very transitory and is 
quickly lost, with clinical values falling to baseline and below after 
six months. Your vaunted science roundly damns AZT on all counts, 
Martin. And the "science" supporting the whole family of nucleoside 
drugs if equally flawed or non-existent. AZT and its cousins ddI and DDC 
are hyped to the hilt by corporate boosterism without one shred of 
scientific backing with their lackey "activist" organizations paid to 
push their high-priced, toxic junk.

  There are numerous lives that have been prolonged, and lives saved, my 
own included, by non-'officially approved' AIDS treatments. And they 
sure as hell didn't come by way of Project Inform. It's high time this 
pseudo-activist organization purveying MISinformation disbands, and its 
directors go look for work more suited to their abilities, namely, 
shoveling chicken manure.

                                Name withheld
                                     Berkeley
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Letter to SF Sentinel
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 5918
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:29:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.011905.3178@cs.ucla.edu> bigoldberg@igc.apc.org (Billi Goldberg) writes:
>In post <11:11 pm  Aug 13, 1992 by dyer@spdcc.com in cdp:sci.med.aids **>
>Steve writes (among other things):
>
>>Nonsense.  The evidence that AZT prolongs life in people with AIDS
>>compared to people with AIDS not given AZT is irrefutable.  No one
>>(except a crackpot with a pet theory) would make the claim you have
>>here and still expect to be taken seriously.
>
>The scientists in the study below must be *crackpots*.
>
> A CONTROLLED TRIAL OF EARLY VERSUS LATE TREATMENT WITH ZIDOVUDINE IN 
>SYMPTOMATIC HUMAN IMMUNODEFICIENCY VIRUS INFECTION (Hamilton JD, 
>Hartigan PM, Simberkoff MS et. al.) 
>Conclusions.  In symptomatic patients with HIV infection, early 
>treatment with zidovudine delays progression to AIDS, but in this 
>controlled study it did not improve survival, and it was associated with 
>more side effects. 
>*******************************************************************************

Billi, you should read for content.  You are either deliberately distorting
or misinterpreting the conclusions of the study (unlike what is stated here
in the abstract, which makes me wonder what you read.)  It says absolutely
nothing about the beneficial effects of AZT compared to individuals not
given the drug (or other related nucleosides.)  That's not what the study
was looking at--it was trying to answer whether or not early AZT treatment
delays the development of AIDS, compared to holding off until typical AIDS
symptoms are manifested.

This particular study is in disagreement with other studies which lead to
exactly the opposite conclusion: that early intervention with AZT does in
fact delay progression to AIDS and prolongs life compared to late inter-
vention.  The proper response to this set of conflicting reports is
(surprise!) not to glom onto the latest anti-AZT report and trumpet it
around as evidence that AZT is useless (when in fact it says nothing
of the sort.)  Rather, it invites scrutiny on all the recent research
papers to try to understand what might be different between the populations
such that they led to results suggesting different conclusions.  Plus,
these studies can only be interpreted properly by individuals with clinical
experience with the population.

If you look at life expectancy of people who aren't on AZT (or other
nucleosides) versus those who are taking AZT, there is a large average
difference between those who aren't on the drug and those who are.
People given AZT live longer, on average.  No one is in a position to
dispute this.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: sci.med.aids
From: meSamh%BROWNVM.BITNET@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Subject:      anonymous testing
Note: Copyright 1992, Dan R. Greening. Non-commercial reproduction allowed.
Archive-Number: 5944
Organization: unspecified
Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 92 12:48:52 EDT

Can someone suggest an organization that does anonymous HIV testing in
Providence.  I've already tried Planned Parenthood and their testing is
"confidential" not anonymous, which means, as I understood from the
receptionist, a record with my name is generated, but it is not available
to insurance companies I guess.  In any case I'm looking for something strictly
 confidential: where I'm given a number and that is used to identify my test.
Also, since cost (and time) is a big factor, I'd appreciate any help in finding
 a low income testing center that can get the results within two to three weeks
.
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