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From: Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Michael Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: pj06485 - fix for ALT-HOME legit?
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 09:06:54 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/20 - SeaHunt BBS, San Francisco CA

Hello Jonathan!

Monday January 04 1993 23:16, Jonathan Bruce Hacker wrote to All:

JH-> There is a file on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in /pub/uploads called
JH-> pj06485.zip.  This file contains new dll's that claim to fix the
JH-> broken ALT-HOME key in DOS sessions (APAR PJ06485) that was introduced
JH-> by the service pack.  This file does not appear on IBM's Internet node
JH-> (software.watson.ibm.com) which makes me somewhat suspicious.

    IBM is often quite slow about getting things onto their own site.  I tried the above fix, and it WORKS.


                                          - Michael -


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From: u7822042@cc2.nctu.edu.tw
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: 2.1b ftpable again !
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:51:10 GMT
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
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Hi all,

	I find that Hobbes open the directory /pub/os2/2.1/beta again. I

think they won't close it this time. Enjoy 2.1b freely and send bugs reports

to IBM !
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mike@mallard.demon.co.uk (Mike Zanker)
Subject: Prospective OS/2 user
Distribution: world
Organization: Mallard Independent Mail and News, Leeds, UK
Reply-To: a.m.zanker@newcastle.ac.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:50:04 +0000

I'm considering purchasing OS/2 for my machine and should like to
draw upon the knowledge of existing users...

I have a 33MHz 386SX with 4Mb RAM and a 1991 AMI BIOS (ACER
motherboard). The BIOS i.d. ends with -F which I understand to
indicate that the keyboard BIOS should be suitable. However, I've
had some problems with the Coherent OS in that I couldn't use
virtual consoles due to keyboard scan code set 3 not functioning
correctly - does OS/2 use scan set 3 at all?

I have a 170Mb IBM IDE drive partitioned as 70Mb primary DOS and
40Mb extended (DRDOS 6.0). Would it be possible to install OS/2
in the remaining 60Mb and allow it to access the DOS partitions,
or would I have to start again with a clean hard disk?

I hope someone can answer these questions for me!

Thanks in advance

Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: avi@shell.portal.com (Avi Schwartz)
Subject: Re: MS Access does not run on OS/2 2.0
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:24:11 GMT

In article <9301103976@ritz.mordor.com> ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz) writes:
>Mohammed Mannan (mmannan@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu) wrote:
>OS/2> I have recently bought the MS Access package (couldn't help it so cheap).
>OS/2> During installation, it replaced some of the dlls, citing, I may have some
>OS/2> outdated ones. Now, whenver I run Access, OS/2 goes crazy and I have to
>OS/2> reboot.
>OS/2> 
>OS/2> MS Access is supposed to run on windows 3.0 (it says so on the packaging) and
>OS/2> OS/2 runs windows 3.0 applications. What happened?
>OS/2> 
>OS/2> Anyone know if win 3.1 will run on top of OS/2, instead of running on
>OS/2> top of DOS?
>
>Are you surprised?  In light of Microsoft's previous antics to derail users
>who try to use OS/2 (or Lotus products) I have decided not to purchase any
>more of their software.  Why should I patronize a company who goes that
>"extra mile" to break something just because I am not using their OS or
>their applications?
>

Relax. As much as I don't like MS, I don't like to see them bashed for no 
fault of theirs.

MS-Access works just fine under OS/2 2.0 GA+SP and under OS/2 2.1 when 
run in full-screen mode. It doesn't work in seamless mode though. You must
have some other problem that is not related to MS-Access.

-- Avi   (avi@shell.portal.com  or  avi@cup.portal.com)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dregeczi@fraser.sfu.ca (David Joseph Regeczi)
Subject: Re: Do Trident drivers work with ATI?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:17:02 GMT

ced@APOLLO.HP.COM (Carl Davidson) writes:

>I downloaded the tri32new.zip archive from hobbes recently, unpacked
>it, and installed the files according to Steve Withers' revised directions.
>The installation went smoothly (I did it all by hand) and it came up first
>try -- even the seamless Windoze support works! Kudos to whoever at
>Trident wrote this stuff. I was amazed to see drivers from a single vendor
>that support so many other vendor's cards!

>But, as often happens, there is a fly in the ointment. In this case, the
>fly is that in 800x600 mode the top 1 1/8" (approximately) of the 8" high
>screen is repeated at the bottom 1 1/8" (approximately) of the screen such
>that the top row of icons in the WPS is repeated at the bottom of the screen.
>This not only occurs in the PM, but also with both seamless *and* full-screen
>Windoze apps. The 640x480x256 driver works fine. 

>Anybody else seen this? Anybody know the fix? I sure would like to be able to
>use this driver. BTW, my board is the VGA Wonder XL and has 512K of video
>ram on it. The board works fine running Windows 3.1 over DOS in 800x600 mode
>and works OK with Joel A.'s driver (but I want seamless Windoze support, so
>I've not been using it), so I don't think I have a hardware problem.


The 800x600x256 drivers are for cards with 1M only at the moment I believe
so you'll have to upgrade the card or live with 640x480x256 drivers.  I
personally find with my ATI AM24 (basically an XL) that the old, unofficial
trident drivers worked better.  Hope this helps.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: oylonen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Otso Yl|nen (OSY))
Subject: Re: To XGA-2 or not
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:03:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.042617.18387@midway.uchicago.edu>, sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu 
(Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>  (Outside the U.S., IBM sells an AT bus
> XGA-2 adapter.)

Really?  Never heard about this before.  Is there somebody already using this?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Dos programs under OS/2
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:23:23 GMT

Why do DOS programs sometimes get messed up in OS/2 with write
permissions?  For instance SLMR can never delete it's own work
directory, even though it isn't using it.  Telemate can't launch
wordperfect, because it gets "access denied."  

What's the problem? These programs are not being run in the background.
There is nothing else using them.  They should be totally accessible.
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: PACKED FILE CORRUPT & DOS XMS settings
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:22:01 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec31.102841.203438@uctvax.uct.ac.za> bokkie@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
>When I use a XMS_MEMORY_LIMIT setting greater than zero
>in the DOS Settings, then one of my DOS applications fails 
>to start, and I get a message from DOS saying:
>  
>  Packed file is corrupt
>
>Any ideas why this is?

This happens under DOS 5.0 if you put everything in UMB's and HMA.
Packed executables (that had EXEPACK run on them) don't unpack if they
load into the bottom 64K of memory.  When you give yourself tons of
free memory (putting everything in upper memory), the program dies
this way.

DOS 5.0 comes with a LOADFIX.EXE program which forces an app to load
above the 64K line.  Note that memory below 64K becomes useless, but
the app will load.  You'll probably do better with this than not using
upper memory anyway, so go for it.

Just prefix your usual command line with LOADFIX, and all will work
fine.
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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Detach command.
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:58:32 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1993Jan08.075225.9277@kub.nl> hoppie@kub.nl (Jeroen Hoppenbrouwers) writes:
>Eh? I always thought that being able to push a running UNIX process in the background
>with Ctrl-Z and call it back later with FG, together with the BG and JOBS commands,
>were UNIX *shell* commands, and thus implemented by the shell, not by the UNIX
>kernel?!? If I'm wrong, please tell me.

Yes, but...

Unix programs (not counting x-apps) perform all console I/O by reading
and writing the stdin/stdout/stderr devices.  These, in an ordinary
shell, are connected to /dev/tty, but a program launcher (a shell) can
connect them elsewhere - like into pipes.  The shell can then filter
the I/O.  Since Unix has system calls to suspend and resume, this
works fine.

OS/2 doesn't use a device-shell interface.  OS/2 apps (full-screen
ones, anyway), make Vio* calls for I/O, which is a direct-to-device
method.  The shell (in this case, CMD.EXE) never sees anything.  If
all text-based apps used stdin/stdout/stderr (as IBM is now pushing),
it could be possible for some form of "real" shell to be written, but
at this time, there are very few apps that would work with it.

Also note that screen access would then have the same limitations that
Unix has: no ability to read the display buffer without shadowing it
in memory, and no direct-cursor/color control without ANSI sequences
(or a library like curses to produce those sequences).  Even so, this
may be acceptible, since the big push is for PM-based apps, with the
text-mode only for non-i/o-based apps.

>In this case, just get an OS/2 port of a csh of some kind that has job control built-in.
>I know that OS/2 has more types of sessions than UNIX, but without job control in the
>shell, it wouldn't work anyway. If you just run OS/2 text mode aps, I can imagine the
>shell arbitrating console access easily. And running other (PM) jobs from a shell
>does not need BG/FG switching -- being an PM app.

As long as each app runs in an independant session, this could be
problematic.  Note that GNU-Emacs gets apps to run in it's own window,
but it must do this by starting the app in a separate session (that
gets a minimized window for itself) and uses pipes (or something) to
redirect the session's output into itself.  A few misplaced Vio*
calls, and the output won't wind up in Emacs.

A shell can't use this technique and still be generic enough to run
everything.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: grahama@bnr.ca (Graham Ashby)
Subject: Problems with printer
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ontario, Canada
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:23:12 GMT

As a new user of OS/2 2.0 I have a couple of questions about printing:

1) when printing from DOS, I get an anoying dialog on the WPS desktop
   asking if I have inserted paper yet.  Can I get rid of this?

2) I printed out some of the documentation on my cheap Epson, and it came
   out in multiple fonts (as if through ATM)  Can I do this for files
   I create with, say, the system editor?

Thanks

Graham Ashby   grahama@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS/2 won't free up memory!  Even when not in use.
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:10:31 GMT

In article <baloo.726274300@mik.uky.edu> baloo@nx01.mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal) writes:
>When i'm in the settings option to find an icon, i have about 2000 icons to
>choose from, after i choose my icon for the app the system starts dieing.
>Apps quit responding to the system and i can't open any more windows.  
>It tells me to close some windows to free up memory but that does no good.
>What am i doing wrong?  I alwasy end up rebooting after selecing icons.

This bug was apparently fixed with the Service Pak.  The Service Pak
is available via anonymous ftp from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.

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Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | /faq, or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP")
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hstarke@europa.eng.gtefsd.com (Hal Starke)
Subject: OS/2 2.1 Beta Bugs
Reply-To: hstarke@europa.eng.gtefsd.com (Hal Starke)
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:04:19 GMT

Well I received my 2.1 CDROM. Since I have been using the NOV PDK with 
service pak applied without much problem I was looking forward to some 
enhancements.

The first glich was getting that sysinst.zip file. I tried the IBM-BBS first 
but the file is not there even thought the directions say it is. So I got the 
file off of Compuserve and started installing from CDROM.

Next glich is system would hang about 80% through on command ref.inf file. I 
can reproduce this. So I continued install after rebooting. Once I got system 
up I started getting trap D and even trap E. I know its not memory, its been 
tested, all same speed, brand, batch etc.

These errors occured about 10 times in 3 hours so I have given up for now. 
Lets see if there is a patch on the horizon.

Hal Starke, GTE Federal Systems
My views are my own!
Internet: hstarke@europa.eng.ftefsd.com
From: json@treankare.met.kth.se (Anders Jacobsson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: 32 Bit HPFS in OS/2 2.1
Date: 4 Jan 93 08:20:58 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, NADA

Will 32 bit HPFS be included in OS/2 2.1
, if not, does anyone know where to get it?

A. Jakobsson
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: des@inmos.co.uk (David Shepherd)
Subject: Re: leave OS/2 running - the monitor too?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 11:32:11 GMT

Gerry Thome         (8-2256) (gthome@dss1.austin.ibm.com) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan4.174513.24896@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
: >In article <1992Dec27.181913.15801@infodev.cam.ac.uk> rm113@cus.cam.ac.uk (R. Moss-Eccardt) writes:
: >>We were using a 95 as a server and every few months the display adapter would
: >>just stop working until we power-cycled it.  We complained to IBM hardware
: >>support and were told: 'well, the PS/2 is not designed for 24-hour operation.
: >>Buy an Industrial Computer instead'.  Our account manager was not pleased, but
: >>the advice still stands.
: >That IBM-er was an idiot.  I wonder what they do for a LAN.  I don't
: >think they use an ES-9000 mainframe to run Lan-Manager.
: I have to second the motion that any IBMer that told you that a 95 
: does not or should not run 24 hours a day/7 days a week is an idiot.

Either that or he's in marketting and senses the opportunity to
persuade someone that they need a new machine! A few years ago I heard
someone from INMOS advising a customer to buy a transputer board
with 2Mb of memory rather try to save money by getting one with 1Mb
and the fit another Mb of memory chips themselves. The advice given
was "The unused memory sockets may not have been tested" - can't 
remember if the customer was stupid enough to fall for this!

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From: ted@isgtec.com (Ted Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: pj06485 - fix for ALT-HOME legit?
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:33:39 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc. Mississauga Ont. Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Jonathan Bruce Hacker (hacker@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
: There is a file on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in /pub/uploads called
: pj06485.zip.  This file contains new dll's that claim to fix the
: broken ALT-HOME key in DOS sessions (APAR PJ06485) that was introduced
: by the service pack.  This file does not appear on IBM's Internet node
: (software.watson.ibm.com) which makes me somewhat suspicious.

: Does anyone know more about this fix?

It works.

--
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ISG Technologies Inc.   6509 Airport Rd., Mississauga  Ont.  Canada   L4V 1S7
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu (Sean J. Orourke)
Subject: FreeCell? (was Re: Windows NT vs OS/2: Does NT worth the wait?)
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 23:33:59 GMT

In article <1iip41INNol9@access.usask.ca> friesend@jester.usask.ca (Darryl Friesen) writes:
[ a lot deleted ]
>Windows 3.1 for Workgroups.  The best thing I've seen about the NT beta
>so far is the new game FreeCell.  :)  Personally, I prefer OS/2.  I like

Would you describe it here so someone can work on an OS/2 version? :)  Or mail
a description to me if you feel it'd be a waste of bandwidth.

Thanks,

Sean
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: HELP-Falcon 3.0 under OS/2???
From: slee@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:25:55 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

Header says it all--any suggestions??

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: 5692330@mcimail.com  (Robert Gammon)
Subject: Re: Icons in windows continually offset
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: Texas Instruments Materials and Controls Group
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:00:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.213825.386@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross) writes:

 >> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:
 >> : In article <1993Jan9.161425.23855@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> bross@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Brian J Ross) writes:
 >> : >Every time I open a folder, the contents are scrolled such that I need
 >> : >to reposition them to see them.  What *should* happen is that a window
 >> : >keeps the icon positions it had when you closed it (like the Mac).
 >> : >Would someone please tell me how to fix this annoying problem?
 >> : 
 >> : Click inside the folder with mouse button two.  Select Arrange.
 >> : Assuming you do a proper Shutdown (mouse button two on the desktop
 >> : background to bring up that menu), your icon positions should be saved.
 >> 
 >> I tried this, and it doesn't work for me. Selecting inside the folder 
 >> with button 2 creates the dashed circle within the window boundaries,
 >> and pops up the menu. I select Arrange, and the icons are arranged. I then
 >> close the folder. If I open it again, the icons are unarranged as before.
 >> The window *does*, however, retain the screen position and size it had
 >> before being closed. Also, I do shutdown properly, but this has no effect
 >> on the icon arrangement problem..
 >> 

My procedure is to open Settings, select the Sort tab, picking a Sort order, 
then selecting Always maintain Sort Order.  Now, each time I open the folder,
I can see all the icons, and when I add a new program to a folder, I can
predict where it will show up, and I can see it in the folder.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cambria@smaug.enet.dec.com (Michael C. Cambria)
Subject: Future Domain 1680
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:06:29 GMT


Hello,

Does anybody use the Future Domain 1680 SCSI controller with
external devices (ie. cd)?

I'm getting conflicting answers to the question "what cable do
I need?"  The FD has a 50 pin female connector.  It is *not*
a centronics connector.  The connection has been described
as a Micro D(?).  It is about the *size* of a DB25 (ie. rs232)
but it is 50 pin.

The other end of this system cable has to be a male centronics
50 pin scsi for the CD Tech 3401 (also female).

So, does anyone have a clue as to what I really need?
Does anyone use FD1680 with external scsi devices?

Does anyone know where I can obtain the required cable?

Thanks for any help,
/Mike
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rogoff@netcom.com (Carolyn Rogoff David Rogoff)
Subject: a couple of more questions
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:24:44 GMT


Hello,

I've got a summary of answers to my last questions + a couple
of new ones.


Old stuff:
1)  links:  OS2 doesn't have them.  WPS does, but they are only
accesible from WPS
2)  where WPS looks for bitmaps:  only in /os2/bitmap.  You can
use find in the settings notebook to get other ones, but everyone
knows what a pain that is.
3)  Unix 'sort':  this is on hobbes in misc_utils.zip?? (sorry, I
deleted the .zip file) along with a bunch of other stuff like wc,
pr, sum etc..  
4)  Calling programs from WPS menu:  WPS adds the calling directory
as an arguement to the program.  The way around this would be to
have the menu call a .cmd script that deals with this and then runs
the actual program.

Many thanks for the help!!!

New stuff:
1)  I can't stand any of the colors set by the termcap entries with
gnuemacs.  Can someone tell me which termcap agruements control the
colors so that I can make new entries.

2)  I'd like hardcopy of some of the manuals.  How do I take the .inf
files and turn them into text or, better yet, postscript.  I don't
want to print each piece out interactively with view.exe.

3)  I picked up compress from hobbes.  Where is uncompress???
Is it the same file with arguements??

Thanks again for the help,

  David

-- 
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    Synthesizers, birds, armour, OS/2 etc.
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