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Subject:      Dracula

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                                        Date:     19-Nov-1992 09:15am EST
                                        From:     Ellen L. Gfroehrer
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Subject: Dracula

Well, I saw Dracula last night and for the most part I enjoyed it.  It had some
problems - like the fragmented beginning and the initial use of special effects
which did little to enhance the story - it just appeared as though Coppola got
a new toy and wanted to show it off, but it had alot of good things going for
it.  Gary Oldman gave a great performance as did Anthony Hopkins ( the only
character with a sense of humor).  Winona Ryder was ok and Keanu Reeves was
kind of cardboard, but that has more to do with the character he played than
his acting ability.  Tom Waits was wonderful as Renfield.  I did not even
recognize him, I saw his name in the credits.  Visually, it was a very
interesting film, some hokey stuff, but some great stuff too.  Interesting
plots going on - love being immortal, Satan being cast out of Heaven, too much
of even a good thing leading to destruction, the power and fragility of
humanity, the fine line that separates good from evil, etc., etc..  Anyone else
have any comments about this one?

Ellen
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From:         Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Dracula

>
> Joe:
>
> It was probably some version of Dracula.  His sidekick character Renfrey (or
> something like that) - you know the guy who made sure Dracula's dirt was in
> proper order, anyway, I remember him being in an institution and eating
flies,
> not necessarily in that order.  I think that was an old version of Dracula.
I
> think I first saw it on the PBS station out of New York sometime in the 70s.
I
> also remember a fairly disgusting scene in that version dealing with rats
when
> Dracula and Renfrey were sailing (to or from England?).
>
> Ellen
===========================================================
I seem to remember something like this in the Langella Dracula, with Arti
*humbug*
Artie Johnson (?) playing Renfield.
                                                Alex
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:29:50 -0500
From:         Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      City Lights

Good morning, folks!
  Hope you all had a good weekend.  May I ask you to help settle a conflict
by means of a straw poll?  Do you think the flower girl takes the tramp in at
the end of Chaplin's City Lights & they live happily ever after?  So far, I
have two votes for and one against.  I'm for on the basis that the score of
the final scene is done in a major (usually positive) chord.
  BTW, has anyone seen any trailers or previews for Chaplin, which is due out
this Christmas (methinks)?  What are your thoughts?
                                                        Alex
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Subject:      Re: Detective parody films

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                                        Date:     16-Nov-1992 11:29am EST
                                        From:     Ellen L. Gfroehrer
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Subject: RE: Detective parody films

How about "Sherlock Holmes Smarter Older Brother," starring Gene Wilder ?
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:59:00 PST
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Subject:      Help!

Adrian,
   Movies Unlimited's new catalog lists ACROSS THE WIDE MISSOURI at
$19.99; call (800) 523-0823.  I can't find a source for the other
film you asked about.  And as long as you're on the line to MMU, you
might want to ask for GUN CARGO, possibly the only film worse than
an Ed Wood film, at $24.99.

Jim Thompson
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:13:49 CST
From:         Rick Francis <C47805NF@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU>
Subject:      Dracula --an opinion

Regarding Ellen's comments about special effects-- didn't it seem that
Coppola was trying too hard to do Tim Burton sets and Ken Russell
camera tricks?  (I'm thinking of Scissorhands and White Worm, respectively)

I'm still trying to figure out why they emphasized that certain
mousiness with Winona Ryder.  I don't think pulling her hair back
had to make her ears stand out.  I guess they were emphasizing her
youth or something.

I *did* think Waits stole the show as Renfield.  Hey, I wonder if anyone
has thought of putting Waits and Lyle Lovett in a film as two musicians
with odd voices and skinny faces with hair that stands straight up? Sorry,
dumb thought.  Unless maybe you had a *third* such character...

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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:21:17 -0400
From:         FISHERKJ@SNYONEVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Giving it a Rest

>Just out of curiosity, how many of you film/actor bashers
>are actors or involved in the filmmaking process at all?

Oh, about the same as the percentage of sports bashers who
are athletes ... or lit critics who are novelists ... or
voters who are politicians.

When you invite folks to drop their fat fannies into narrow
seats and watch you perform in a big dark room, you can't
kvetch'n'moan when folks start talking back.

Straight shootin', on the square. That's what we've got here.
And I'm dang proud of it. Yessir.

kjf-
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From:         "Orlanda Thompson --- Rm M1310 Bldg. 100 --- Ext. 3005"
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Subject:      Re: Stephen King books/movies

Good Morning,

Has anyone else heard that the screen rights to "Needful Things" have been
sold?  A relative mentioned this to me over the weekend.

Orlanda
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:27:29 GMT
From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Regional Movies

>From: Ens Alexander W Ellermann <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
>
>Speaking of regional movies, I had experiences similar to Ellen's with regard
>to LA Story.  I saw it with some friends here in the East and I and the one
>of them who went to USC laughed through the whole picture.  We thought it was
>a riot, but everyone else was mystified.  Perhaps it should have been titled
>LA's Story, because I don't know any non-Californians who thought it was
>especially funny.

Well, again, I thought it was pretty funny, though I did probably miss
some of the `in' jokes.

I don't know... I can't see anyone making a major movie when they know that
it'll only appeal to a small regional audience.

                        Liam.
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:51:00 CST
From:         Rolando Recometa <$W$LB4P@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cruise

I know there is no perfect actor, but there are those with
more range than others. Tom Cruise has limited range. It helps
to pair him with the likes of Hoffman, Duvall, Newman, and
Stone because they make him look better. I guess you have to
give him credit for trying and taking risks. But just when you
think he's on the right track after making Rain Man and Born on
the Fourth of July, he makes a film like Days of Thunder. And
perhaps, the only reason he made that was so he could indulge in
his favorite hobby. As for his pre-stardom movies like Taps, and
All the Right Moves, they were mediocre at best. As for A Few Good
Men, all I said was the trailer looked iffy but I would certainly
give it a chance only because Rob Reiner is directing. He's
interesting and unpredictable. My favorite Reiner film is This Is
Spinal Tap. However, there's another problem - Demi Moore!!! As for
Tom Cruise, he will always remain an uninteresting actor.
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:55:22 -0500
From:         Currie Thompson <cthompso@CC.GETTYSBURG.EDU>
Subject:      RE:Eversmile, NJ

  Scott A Taylor <staylor@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU> writes:

>I am trying to locate a movie entitled <Eversmile, NJ>  This flic, which I
>heard about recently on another newsgroup, was not available at my local video
>store.  Can someone give me a few hints on how to go about locating a movie
>like this that is less than readily available?  Thanks in advance.
>--
    I assume the film in question is Carlos Sorin's <Sonrisas de New
Jersey>, which stars Daniel Day-Lewis.  I saw this film in Madrid in an
English-Language version entitled <Smiles from New Jersey>, but the original
title in Spanish was supposed to be <Sonrisas eternas de New Jersey>, which
would be literally <Eternal Smiles from New Jersey>--or <Eversmile, NJ>.
Assuming this is the film you have in mind, I doubt that you will be able to
locate it on video.  It has not yet been released in Argentina--and may not
be released there.  It had very limited showings and, unlike Sorin's <La
pelicula del rey>, (<The King's Movie>), got weak reviews.  On the other
hand, if you find I am mistaken and that the film is available on video,
plese let me know.
     Also, could you let me know about the news group that you heard about
this film on?
     Thanks,
Currie Thompson
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: Aladdin
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:03:30 GMT

        Scott Huddle  writes:
> I heard that there was a "National Sneak Preview" this Saturday, anybody
> else hear about this?  USAToday gave _Aladdin_ 4 stars.
>
November 14th?  Yup, there was.  Either fly to New York City or Los Angeles, 
or wait until the 25th of November like the rest of the country.
	If you have to get a fix, buy the soundtrack, or go to the nearest
Disney Store and watch video clips of the movie on the monitors. 

Torsten at Omaha
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From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: The Prisoner (was RE: Help!)

>From: CDOMS <CDOMS@UMKCVAX1.BITNET>
>
>Comic books on the Prisoner tv show have also been published.  There
>was a Prisoner "Graphic Novel" about 2 or 3 years ago (if memory serves).

It was a four issue, prestige format miniseries from DC Comics.  It was
by Dean Motter, Mark Askwith and David Hornung.  It was a sequel, set
in the present, featuring an older No. 6 and Leo McKern's No. 2.

It had an authentic look and feel, though ultimately it failed by trying
to explain too much of the old series' mystery.  Interesting, though...

>I have seen interviews with Patrick, stating that the Prisoner was not
>based on his Drake character from DangerMan (sold to the United States\
>as Secret Agent).  But then Patrick did not answer all of questions
>about The Prisoner. Or at least the ones most people would have
>liked an answer for. :) :) :)

I remember a rumour from a while back, that McGoohan was planning a
real sequel.  Anyone know if this is/was true, and what happened?

                        Liam.
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From:         Geoff Davis <DAVIS@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: A Few Good Men

Although I haven't seen "A Few Good Men," Cruise also did another Military
film with Tim Hutton called "Taps."  Talk about gonzo gung-ho!  He did great!
So don't sell him too short.  He has also been considered for the "Spider-Man"
film that I think Paramount or Universal is trying to produce.  I salute that
possibility, partly because he really does look like Peter Parker (Spider-
Man's alter-ego) in the comics, and does have the build for the role.  I wonder
who they got in mind for Mary Jane Watson, Gwen Stacy, and Betty Brant.
w
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                                        Date:     19-Nov-1992 01:27pm EST
                                        From:     Ellen L. Gfroehrer
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Subject: RE: Cruise

"I know there is no such thing as a perfect actor, but there are some with more
range than others."

Kinda like Rebecca DeMornay?
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:10:47 -0400
From:         Don McCreary <surak@PX1.STFX.CA>
Subject: Re: The Lawnmower Man

Entertainment Weekly ran a small story on The Lawnmower Man a few months ago
basically saying that the addition of the extra minutes in the unrated directors
cut adds a lot to the plot which is missing from the theatrical release.  They
were so impressed that, if I remember correctly, they basically said "avoid
the rated cut and only see the unrated one."  I haven't seen the movie because
people I trust hated the theatrical release and I am waiting until the local
video store gets the other one -- which will be when hell freezes over.

Don
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Date:         Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:15:08 +0100
From:         "BERT DEIVERT - FILM - UNIV. OF KARLSTAD,
              SWEDEN" <bert@KSTAD2.SUNET.SE>
Subject:      Re: Laserdiscs

Since I am out of touch being in Sweden and have NEVER seen a movie
on laser disc, could someone tell me what they actually cost? Our
univ. has a setup which will take NTSC discs so I have considered
purchasing them when I come over for a few days in the spring term.
Are they available everywhere?  I will probably be in New Orleans.
Criterion is mentioned a lot. IS that the company with the best
prints available?  Thanks
bert
:bert@kstad2.sunet.se
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From:         Bill Felty <BILL.FELTY@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Cruise/_A Few Good Men_

Rolando,

I must disagree with a coupla points you make regarding Cruise's acting.  True,
many of his films have been less than stellar efforts yet I think it is very
unfair to say that _Rain Man_ and _Born on the Fourth of July_ are "mere"
aberrations.  Cruise gave EXCELLENT performances in both those films.  He was
Oscar-nomimated for the latter, and in many ways gave a more subtle, realistic
performance in _Rain Man_ than Dustin Hoffman (even Hoffman in several
interviews acknowledged as much).

It's far too easy to be whiny and negative saying things like "He or she is too
good looking, or too young looking or too old looking, or has a high
pitched voice, etc., etc."  Really, what actor IS perfect?  I always try
to view performances, films with an open mind.  Who knows when someone like
Madonna will give an Academy award winning performance?  Would anyone have
expected as much from Cher?

Finally, _A Few Good Men_ is the film version of the spectacular Broadway play.
Seeing Tom Cruise in a military uniform is no reason to dub the film "Top
Gun Goes to Court"!  I'm not sure if the movie will be good or not, but I did
see the play (which starred Tom Hulce) and it was excellent.  Let's give the
film a chance!
From: cs177wbd@a4337-3.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead)
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Subject: Re: Stephen King books/movies
Date: 21 Nov 92 01:15:10 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

The Dark Half has been in the can for some time now.  The only reason it hasn't
been released is that Orion pictures is in the pits.

It stars Timothy Hutton (in a dual role), Amy Madigan and Michael Rooker as
Alan Pangporn.  It is directed by George Romero.  Stephen King himself has said
that Romero has out-Hitchcocked Hitchcock regarding the birds.

ed


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Subject:      _The Lawnmower Man_ with SPOILERS

>From:         smmat@UKC.AC.UK

>>Last night I watched the "unrated director's cut" videotape of _The Lawnmower
>>Man_ which I had previously seen during it's first theatre run.  Now that
>>first theatre run was a while ago, so it could just be my fading memory,
>>but I think I remember the scientist's wife leaving him fairly early in
>>the movie while she doesn't run off in the videotape version.  Can anyone
>>who saw the original cut in the theatre confirm or refute my memory?

>The Lawnmower man was released on video here in the UK only a few days ago
>and just watched it last night (I haven't seen it in the theatre though),
>but in the video version the wife does leave early in the movie.
>I am intersted to see how (if at all) her not leaving has affected the
>events of the movie in this version you saw?!

Thank you for restoring some faith in my memory. 8-)  I take it the
video version you saw was not the "unrated director's cut".  The
wife appears in two scenes after the point where she left him in
the theatrical release.  The first is a minor scene in which Job
comes to the scientist's house and meets the wife sitting out front.
She tells Job the scientist is downstairs, and as Job starts to enter
the house he telepathicly hears her thinking "Probably fucking his
machines again."  Later on when the men from the Shop approach the
scientist's house to apprehend Job, she is a zombie totally under
Job's control.  She blows the first agent away with a hand-gun
before being gunned down by another agent.  Her husband sees all
from where Job has him bound and gagged.  So her prescence is not
that important to the plot - she provides additional evidence of
Job's powers - but her husband witnessing her death as Job's tool
adds a bit of poignancy and provides additional motivation for
his final battle with Job.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Sun, 22 Nov 1992 16:05:20 -0500
From:         S1MBM@ISUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: The Lawnmower Man

I consider myself fairly tolerant when it comes to appreciating movies,
but this is one *atrocious* excuse for one.

michael mcdonald
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