HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Negativnews
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:12:32 GMT

jeffy@athena.mit.edu () writes:

>Everything looks right except Factoid #1 - the book/CD is definitely limited
>to 4000 copies. That's it. No more. The boys sold all their copies, so they
>are happy.

I just got a letter from Don Joyce in response to some questions I'd faxed, 
and he said "This is a limited edition (as many as we could afford)..." which
sounds pretty vague to me, but if Mark told you only 4000 I wouldn't call him
a lying m*therf*cker... 

I got a cool button: NEGATIVLAND IS STUPID, done in the same style as the
Christianity is Stupid t-shirts. 

Tournews-wise, I confirmed that there are no California or west coast plans
or dates yet, but that's exactly how it's worded: "...yet." They are doing a 
one-shot trip to Europe in December.
 
>TourNews: I pressed, and I pressed, and I pressed some more, but I couldn't
>squeeze the DRAMATIC and TERRIBLE revelation that Negativland would announce
>on their tour out of Mark Hosler. He said it was "worse than U2." I asked him
>if it was "group" thing, or an individual...he paused, and noted that this
>TERRIBLE and DRAMATIC revelation happened to at least one individual. I know
>nothing more, except when I started guessing ("rabies? dead car battery? had
>to take an Amway job?") he brushed me off, but was laughing at the same time
>about it. Go figure.

Oh, please let it be news that Pastor Dick is born again and leaving the
group to become a missionary in Bolivia.  

I asked Don for clarification of the statement that Over The Edge radio
broadcasts are in the public domain and their suggestion to "go ahead and
make a buck from it if you can." I specifically asked if the band wanted
donations from any sales of radio tapes, and how such payments should be 
made to the band. 

Don replied: "OTE is in the public domain. You can do whatever you want 
with anything you tape off it. We encourage others to put out their own
edits, compilations, whatever. No payment to us is necessary." 

So it looks like I will proceed with my plans to exploit the radio show
bymarketing some edits of it as soon as I pull together the graphix and the 
edits... 

  - malcolm@wrs.com
From: miller@quiver.enet.dec.com (Brian A. Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Escape From Noise
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:22:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <29SEP199214290528@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu>, dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (DICKENJD) writes...
>I've been collecting Escape From Noise from bradley.bradley.edu, 


I assume this is related to the Negativland album _Escape From Noise_ (???)


>and I'll be damned if I can find a subscription address in any of
>'em... anyone know what it is?


Subscription address?  Is this an Internet mailing-list I should know about?

Confused,
Brian Miller
From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry article in Pulse! October issue
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:34:10 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

saeed@watson.ibm.com (Saeed Jaffer) writes:
}For those who are interested, there's a decent sized article with Al quotes
}in the new Pulse! October issue, Tower Records free magazine they have at the
}exits. 
}In it, Uncle Al has lotsa comments about going more metal, use of drugs, the
}future of other projects, etc.  I found it relatively interesting.  Would be
}entertaining to see what people think of it.  I'd be willing to post it here
}(and break a few copyright laws) just to see the flames.  

There is also a good article in Request, the free magazine
at Musicland stores......but i don't have the time to type it in...
sorry....

Jester
-- 
I am the paper-cut that ruins your morning. . .
I am the ingrown nail on the foot of crime
I am the squashed bug on your flying saucer widshield.
I am the moth that seeks your porch light.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: vijaypai@owlnet.rice.edu (Vijay Sadananda Pai)
Subject: TKK Quote (Can anyone identify?)
Keywords: Nervous Xians
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:00:42 GMT

Oops ... forgot to set the distribution on this last time I tried posting
this. Let's try it again.

I read a recent interview with TKK. In it Buzz McCoy said his favorite quote
was "Reality is the only word in the language that should always be used in
quotes". Of course, this is also one of the samples in Nervous Xians. Does
anybody know who originally said this line?

==============================================================================
Vijay Pai                        | "Won't you come and join us,  
Aspiring young EE                |  in our playground
4th North/Jones Coll./Rice U.    |  It's a violent playground
Houston, Texas                   |  Such a violent playground" -- Nitzer Ebb
From: moon!cyberden!hughmann@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: The The (where did it go?)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 18:08:36 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

The The?  Haven't heard that name in a long time.  No idea what happened 
to them, but I'll check around.

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N       [ moon!cyberden!hughmann@well.sf.ca.us ]
From: D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: cheap vinyl?
Date: 3 Oct 92 18:05:42 GMT

Anyone know where I can get 45s or 12 inches pressed cheaply
in small quantities? (1-50) Is it cheaper to press a 45 or
a CD single in small quantities? Please respond if you have any
info. I think a lot of us would like to know the answer to
this one. Esp. people shipping demos to labels. I know if I
mail a cassette, it'll likely go in the trash without a listen.
At least with a 45, I'm more likely to be listened too at
least for a minute or so, even if they ultimately trash it.
 

   Dana
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Subject: Re: STOP!!!!!!!!  (as if!)
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:24:31 GMT

In article <YemZOOy00iUx89olQM@andrew.cmu.edu>
Edward Pak <ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
 
>MATT!!
>Keep reading!
>Keep reading!!
>Keep Reading!!
>
>FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!  Why do you always have to play Devil's advocate or
>criticize everything everyone says?  Do you think you're Mr. Supreme?
>Maybe you are?  But why don't you keep your ignorant ramblings to
>yourself, stop, think about how stupid your acting, and go masturbate
>thinking about me? huh? Matt?
 
Ho! That's a hot one! ;-)
 
>Does that soak into your head or not!
>Are you going to curse me off now, or give us all that "ha! you're
>pathetic" trip?
>Good! I'm pathetic, now leave this board alone!
>
>I still love you though.....
 
This sort of thing should really go in e-mail!
 
 
--Eric
 
  ======================================     eiverso@cms.cc.wayne.edu
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  | 6     7     8     9     0          |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: larsi@ifi.uio.no (Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen)
Subject: Fax number for Nettwerk
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 10:07:18 GMT
Originator: larsi@bera.ifi.uio.no

Does anybody know the fax number for Nettwerk in Canada? I want to
order the metal box Back & Forth...
--
A moment of static, dangling wires, broken connections...
  larsi@ifi.uio.no * Lars Ingebrigtsen
From: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk (Tim)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: ministry boot
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:17:30 GMT
Reply-To: bart@muppet.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom

I was at a record fair in Ipswich on Saturday. Picked up a ministry
bootleg called "so what". The CD was put out on Teen Spirit label (no, not
kidding :-)

Tracks are
Burning Inside
Thieves 
Stigmata
The Missing
Deity
So What
TV song
Smothered hope

so anyone else heard of this ? A while back someone else in the UK found a 
ministry bootleg.. howcome we seem to be getting them here? Not that I'm
complaining ;->

tim

PS so whats the deal about the ministry UK tour ? Anybody got any dates ? It was
supposed to be sometime in october....
---
The harvest of life, the harvest of death	<-- bart@muppet.bt.co.uk -->
Resumes it's course each day			<--     Tim Fulcher      -->
It comes as if by schedule			<--  tel : 0473 648220   -->	
The harvester lives, with arms that are bent	
And toes that cross, and knees that jerk	<-- British Telecom Labs -->
And necks like swans that seem to turn
As if inclined to gasp for breath...	- Quicklime Girl - , BOC
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: Missi Wilkenfeld <mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Hardcore/sXe mailing list
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:17:38 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]


>Who is interested in a group dedicated to hardcore, industrial/hardcore,
>fringe metal and similar alternative power guitar music?
>If such a group exists, please tell me about it.
>Otherwise, how about it?

Stick to the punk & hardcore mailing list....
Sure now it is a bit of a flame fest but it used to be very cool.
I have learned lots recently.  I now know all about Riot Grrls. and
the Sex Pistols reunion gigs in Germany.  Lots of fun information
just lots of people using the word "Fuck" so be prepared..

>By the way, I'd like the address for the straight edge mailing list. 
>Can anyone post it or mail it to me?  

sxex@athena.mit.edu (Straight Edge Mailing List)

Ofcourse I can't remember if requests should be sent to the sxex-request 
or directly to Halloween Jack.

-- 
+------------+---------------------------------------------------+
|   Missi    |           mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu         |
+------------+---------------------------------------------------+
|   Mail your Demos to: WQAX /PO Box 2593 /Bloomington IN 47401  |
+---------------------- or for REAL fun -------------------------+
|    Mail this account with a subject of SELLLIST or BOOTLIST.   |
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From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: Final Pup?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:05:27 GMT

rale5064@mach1.wlu.ca (Michael Raletic u) writes:

>If it makes you feel any better I have been hearing that for as long as
>I can remember.

>The reason rumours like that probably get spread around is because the
>members of the band indeed have "side" projects.  The music press thinks
>that as soon as anyone does something outside of their band that it is game
>over.

>Has anyone heard anything about that Skinny Puppy "demo-tape" album that is
>suppose to be coming out???

Yes, Back and Forth is now available through mail order, and contains 7 bonus 
tracks...
coprophiliac

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Subject: Re: TKK Quote (Can anyone identify?)
Originator: cmgeorg@c00556-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: Nervous Xians
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:14:15 GMT


In article <BvCst6.DsE@rice.edu>, vijaypai@owlnet.rice.edu (Vijay Sadananda Pai) writes:
>
|>I read a recent interview with TKK. In it Buzz McCoy said his favorite quote
|>was "Reality is the only word in the language that should always be used in
|>quotes". Of course, this is also one of the samples in Nervous Xians. Does
|>anybody know who originally said this line?
|>
|>==============================================================================
|>Vijay Pai                        | "Won't you come and join us,  
|>Aspiring young EE                |  in our playground
|>4th North/Jones Coll./Rice U.    |  It's a violent playground
|>Houston, Texas                   |  Such a violent playground" -- Nitzer Ebb
|>

I believe it's from the movie The Amityville Horror 3.  I was so freaked out to
hear it.  We were watching it on TV and this guy told the main girl: "A
famous writer once said reality is the only word in the language that should
always be used in quotes."

It was almost like he didn't say it.  It's hard to explain, but when you've
heard it over and over and then finally hear it from the original source you
get this weird feeling.  I know I did. 

Also from the same or next scene:  "I don't want another one of your rational
explanations.  I know what I experienced, and I'm not crazy."

TKK also one of the girl's screams.  You know, the one that kind of staggers 
part way through. Can't remember the exact song right now though.

It's just a mecca of samples. 8-)

-Chris

   
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++                                                                           
 +      Chris Georgoulias                                                    +
 + North Carolina State University                                           +
 +     cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu                                                  +
 +                                                                           +
 +                                                                           +
 + "Aah... who cares about school...who cares about life...who cares about   +
 +  me.  Not me, that's for sure!  Look!...(punches himself in the head)..   +
 +  ...I just don't care!"                                                   +
 +                                       -Vyvian,  The Young Ones            +                                             
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.autos.vw
From: jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (Jonathan T Drout (smile))
Subject: Re: The Faharvernugen Song<->Kraftwerk's Autobahn?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:16:29 GMT


Was anyone at the New York Auto show back in 89 (I think it was '89).
VW had a soundsystem booth set up and was playing VERY loud musci to
great video of the Corrado.  The music was Yello (from the album Flag)
and the song was The Race.  It was an instrumental version, however.
Does anyone in netland have a copy of the instrumental?  I have the
cd, and there's only a lyrical version. Maybe someone out there has
the 12" single?  Just wondering.
		Jonathan

jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu
MRYMRII
From: trs4742@sigma.tamu.edu (SEBESTA, TIMOTHY RICHARD)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: ftp sites
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:21:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: sigma.29SEP199212215177
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Does anyone know of ftp sites that print out lyrics or graphics
of industrial groups? I'd really appreciate it. Could you please e-mail
me the sites or post them here in case someone else is also looking for
some sites.  Thanks.

Tim Sebesta
From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: Greg Clow, please email me
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:25:06 GMT

In article <BvGv06.FGK@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> @symphony.cc.purdue.edu (null pointer) writes:
>In article <whatever> dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) "writes":
>>	Sure Matthew <heh>, I'll <mmfft> he- hel- ha Ha HA HA _HA_ *HA*!  Hey,
>>I'd be glad to help.  The way you help out people on r.m.i. makes me want to
>>throw some of the love back in your direction.  Well, one thing is undeniable:
>>You certainly _do_ need help.
>>
>>| dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu      |  The mark in my heart  ->  Front 242,        |
>                      					    ^^^^^ ^^^
>
>Hey Dan, please check your .sig file for indicators of your stupidity
>before offering other people advice.
>
>Helpful hints:
>		Don't quote bad 80's disco bands

	Don't worry - I never would.

>		Don't quote sappy love-torn crap

	Hey, I happen to *like* love-torn crap.

>		Don't post.

	The irony of _you_ telling me this is just too much for me, Matty.

>Fr. Matthew Neill Sharp, asker of legitimate question,
>mocked by geeks, and bringer of WRATH
>matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
>
>And btw, some people were kind enough to help.
>All is not lost.  Dan, yes, all, no.

	All I can say, Matt, is that they are truly more compassionate people
than I will ever be.  Though I have helped out at the Special Olypics a couple
times...  Have you ever competed, Matty?

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| Dan Harkless                | "The sore in my soul                         |
| dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu      |  The mark in my heart  ->  Front 242,        |
| dharkles@bonnie.ics.uci.edu |  Her acid reign..."        Tragedy >For You< |
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From: dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless)
Subject: Re: NIN's "Broken" 8 Songs not 6
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:15:41 GMT
Distribution: rec

In article <1992Sep26.152553.13156@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> ajbennett@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Andrew Bennett) writes:
>
>I believe the Adam Ant song is "Physical", or "Let's Get Physical" (not
>to be confused with Olivia Newton-John's 'Classic').

	It's called "(You're So) Physical".  [Not positive about whether the
paretheses are there - I think so.]

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| Dan Harkless                | "The sore in my soul                         |
| dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu      |  The mark in my heart  ->  Front 242,        |
| dharkles@bonnie.ics.uci.edu |  Her acid reign..."        Tragedy >For You< |
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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu ()
Subject: Re: Ambient FAQ?
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 18:25:15 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Sep26.161437.12315@newshost.unh.edu> dmn@kepler.unh.edu (Dana M Nibby) writes:
>Where can I get a copy of the ambient FAQ?
>
Good question, does one exist?

>
> Also-- Is anyone planning on starting an ambient/noise newsgroup?
>I'd love to see one, as I can't stomach this list... too much NIN and
>Ministry talk. (Although I love both those bands) I'd like to see a newsgroup
>for the more esoteric noise groups. 

Motion seconded, this should be rec.music.NIN.ministry
you don't even see many S.P. posts anymore, just commercial stuff; 
FLA -yeauchh!
>  Pax,
>
>   Dana

LUX!

-Scott
From: as471@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Lance Neiding)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Die Warzau
Date: 30 Sep 92 04:28:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


i admit bembf wasnt as good as disco, but
it was good, ive seen them 4 times in concert and i hope they come out with something soon
fnm and helmet in concert  -gotta see it
-- 
*    *  *  *    *        as471           "...why are you doin" this to me
* *  *  *  *  * *    Lance G. Neiding        am i not livin' up to what
*  * *  *  * *  *        (NIN)               i'm supposed to be..." -NIN
*    *  *  *    *                            *Pretty Hate Machine -1989*
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.folk,rec.music.dementia
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED.
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:21:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.231529.19730@yang.earlham.edu>, loris@yang.earlham.edu writes:
|> hey there.  i need some help.  i'm a dj at weci, the public radio station 
|> in richmond indiana that comes out of earlham college.  i'm considering 
|> asking for a show slot for next term that would consist of music by 
|> lesbian, bisexual, or gay artists.  in order to do this, i need to put 
|> together an incredible proposal.  what i need is your input on good 
|> lesbigay artists or songs that deal with queer issues.  most of what i 
|> have on my list so far is considered alternative, but i wanna play 
|> everything, from 1000 homo dj's to tracy chapman to liberace to 
|> tchaiskosky (whoops, spelled it wrong)  please send me your suggestions.
|> thank you!

Hmmm...does 1000 Homo DJs really fit in there? At least, in any way other
than the name?

I really don't understand this. I'm not flaming you so don't get offended,
but if I posted something along the lines of doing a show where I only played
music by confirmed straight artists, I'd be crucified for being a homophobe.
Unless you're doing a scientific study on the effects of sexual preference on
art, I really don't know why it matters at all.

That said, Coil might be a good band to look into...

jds

***************************************************************************
                               * Health and knowledge and wealth and power,
Jeff Smith                     * Passion and poems and sex
smith@fl08-g.comm.mot.com      * I wear a smile like a leather glove,
                               * I won't shut my mouth for less.
                                                - shriekback
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From: loris@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.folk,rec.music.dementia
Subject: Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED.
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:54:04 GMT
 <1992Oct3.205834.12310@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> <K4BRBSP4@cc.swarthmore.edu> <1992Oct4.215904.23217@u.washington.edu>
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Oct4.215904.23217@u.washington.edu>, pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary) writes:
> Indigo Girls are lesbians?  Geez.  I should read up more.  I didn't know that.


you'd be surprised at the number of lesbian, bisexual and gay people in 
the music business.  i'm finding a lot more "mainstream" artists than i 
thought i ever would.  i may post a comprehensive list when i've got time.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Lori Southerland 
Box E-1095 Earlham College  Richmond, IN 47374-4095 
Bitnet:		LORIS@EARLHAM	Internet:	LORIS@YANG.EARLHAM.EDU

"If God dislikes gays so much, how come he picked Michaelangelo, a known 
homosexual, to paint the Sistine Chapel ceiling while assigning Anita 
[Bryant] to go on tv and push orange juice?"  --Mike Royko
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From: micah@hardy.u.washington.edu (Micah Anderson)
Subject: What about the Queen song and Metallica(?) NIN?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 21:21:07 GMT

Why aren't the two remixes that NIN did on the new albulm? Although anyone
smart enough could just get a copy of the two songs and record them onto
the blank part of the second side....