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From: skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertson)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: HELP! Best book on Belize & Guatemala
Date: 29 Jul 92 02:15:00 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:

>In article <skipa.712089631@milton>, skipa@milton.u.washington.edu (Skip Albertson) writes:
>> 
>> A friend and I are planning to go to Belize & Guatemala
>> this Winter.  What are the best guidebooks for this area?

>A travel guide by Chikki Mallon, published by Moon Publishing.
>Your bookstore can order it.  Guatemala is for professional,
>experienced, hardcore travelers only.  If you're not, stick 

I've spent two months each in both Ecuador and Costa Rica, 6 months
in Mexico and two weeks in Guatemala in 1985.  Perhaps if you
actually travelled to Latin America (assuming you speak Spanish) you
might realize the enjoyment some of us get from travelling there.
Given the choice between Guatemala and some of Americas larger
cities, I'll take my chances South of the border.


>> Does Lonely Planet have a book?

>No idea.

>Enjoy Belize!
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From: cc971@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephen  C. Fitch)
Subject: Texas & The Big Bend National Park
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 22:39:08 GMT


Hi, I'll be visiting Texas around the end of August this year and
I intend to visit the Big Bend National Park in SW Texas. Is there
anyone out there with info on places to stay in this area. I'd
also be interested in sights, places of interest and towns in the
area that are worth seeing.

Thanks for your time.

Steve Fitch.
Milton Keynes
England, USE (United States Of Europe, only kidding).
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Scotland ideas (Tourist board books)
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:20:14 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

As a final comment on this, I've found that a number of Scottish Tourist
board books on accomodation, travel, what to see etc are available abroad
so, here's the addresses, what's available and how much they cost (1991
prices) for US, Canada, New Zealand and Australia. First the publications
and costs:-

                                     AUS$     CAN$      NZ$      US$
Scotland:Bed and Breakfast           9.95     8.95    13.50      6.95
Scotland:Hotels and Guesthouses     16.95    13.50    18.95     10.95
Scotland:Self Catering              14.95    12.50    17.50      9.95
Scotland:Camping and Caravan Parks   9.95     8.95    13.50      6.95
Enjoy Scotland Pack                 23.95    18.95    24.95     14.95
Scotland for the Motorist            6.95     5.50     8.95      4.95
Insight Guide to Scotland           34.95    28.95    37.95     22.95
Leisure Guide: Scottish Highlands   29.95    23.95    31.50     18.95
City Guide:Edinburgh                23.95    18.95    24.95     14.95
City Guide:Glasgow                    "        "        "         "
The Big Road Atlas,Britain          19.95    15.95    21.95     12.95

Where to order these from:

AUSTRALIA:-  Bookwise Intl., PO Box 296, Welland SA 5007  Tel:-(08) 268-8222
CANADA:-     Fitzhenry & Whiteside, 195 Allstate Parkway, Markham, Ontario,
             L3R 4TB. Tel:-(416) 477-0322/3
NEW ZEALAND:-British Travel Books, PO Box 60256, Auckland 7. Tel:- 817-7074
USA:-        GHS Inc/British Travel Bookshop, Box 1224, Clifton, NJ 07012.
             Tel:-1-800 448-3039.

Phone first to check the prices as the one's I've given are 1991.

Dave

-- 
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From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
Subject: Re: Canadian Taxes-Refund
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 21:03:07 GMT

> The other method of getting a refund is to visit a Canadian Duty-Free
> store with your receipts.  With proof of residency in the U.S. you
> can fill out the form at the Duty-Free Store and instantly receive
> your GST refund from that store.

It has to be a *participating* duty-free store.  For instance, I'm told
that you can't do this at Toronto's airport, because the stores there found
it too much trouble.
-- 
Mark Brader				"'Taxpayer' includes any person
SoftQuad Inc., Toronto			whether or not liable to pay tax."
utzoo!sq!msb, msb@sq.com		-- Income Tax Act of Canada, s.248(1)

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From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Need info for Amtrak travel
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:09:08 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <92209.133123LANDERSO@NDSUVM1.BITNET>, LANDERSO@NDSUVM1.BITNET writes:
|> Howdy folks.  I would appeciate any info, stories (good or bad), and ideas of
|> what to expect on my upcoming vacation.  I will be traveling on Amtrak to
|> Little Rock, Omaha, and Indianapolis.  A few questions in paticular:
|> 
|> 1. How easy is it to sleep with the rail noise and frequent stops without being
|>    in a sleeper car?

I find it very hard to sleep in coach.

|> 3. On each leg of the trip, I switch trains in Chicago, and have layovers of
|>    varying lengths.  For the longer than 2 hr layovers, is the station close to
|>    someplace that I shouldn't miss seeing while I have the opportunity?

Absolutely.  Union Station is a very short walk from "the Loop"
(downtown Chicago).  Go look at the Art Institute,
the downtown shopping district, North Michigan Avenue, the lakefront,
the Picasso and other outdoor sculptures, the observation deck at
the top of the Sears Tower...

If I recall, there is a counter in Chicago Union Station where you can
leave your baggage for a couple of dollars.  There are also showers.

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
Xref: sparky rec.travel:10849 rec.photo:13277
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 16:40:38 CET
From: <KCHAN@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.photo
Subject: Re: Going to New Mexico (with camera!)

So far no-one has mentioned Acoma Pueblo yet. It is just over 1 hour's drive
from Albuquerque on the I-40 and a minor state road. The pueblo is located
on top of a mesa so there are stunning views of the surrounding landscape.
When I was there 2 weeks ago, visibility was almost unlimited with clear blue
skies and fluffy white clouds in the distant horizon (I live in smoggy
Pasadena, CA - so that was quite amazing!). Rather picturesque mission church.

There is a small visitor's centre at the bottom of the mesa where you are
REQUIRED to register. There is a small admission charge ($2, I think) and a
camera useage charge of $6 - the posted regulations seem to be pretty strict
about picture taking in the pueblo especially of the people living there but
I had no problems at all.

I went to Carlsbad Caverns as well but I started from Roswell which is on
road to Albuquerque. It took me 3.5 to 4 hr from Albuquerque to Roswell
and about 1.5 hr from Roswell to Carlsbad. As for places to stay between
Albuquerque and the Caverns, Roswell is the only town of any size with the
usual range of motels in the wide open space south of Albuquerque. Carlsbad
should also be a consideration - rather pretty. You can skip Artesia - which
is between Roswell and Carlsbad - you can smell it a good 5 miles downwind
(oil refinery?). Other than that there are quite a few campgrounds/RV parks
along the road (US-285? - I am writing this at work and all the stuff from
my trip are at home).

Other posters have already mentioned Santa Fe and Taos - worth going even
though they are slightly touristy. Park the car and wander around these 2
towns and you should be able to get lots of good pictures if you are
interested in adobe architecture!

Another good place for scenary/pictures is Sandia Peak, 45min drive from
Albuquerque - a cable car goes all the way to the top (>10,000 feet). Go
there in the evening for the sunset but be sure to take a WARM jacket -
I only had a rather thin jacket and I was very cold!

I expect to be in Roswell again over the Labour Day weekend (will wave when
you pass by!). Let me know if you need more info of the places that I have
mentioned above.

Have a good trip!

-----
Khee Chan
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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Collecting Visa stamps (was: Passport needed for visa?)
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:39:46 GMT

wlim@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Willie Lim) wrote: 
->....  That includes
->immigration at the Zurich airport (that's the first time for an
->European airport in our experience; they stamp your passport at
->Heathrow and Charles De Gaulle airposts for example) ...

i didn't get a visa/entry stamp at charles de gaulle last october ...

->stamped every time we enter one of those countries.  Those visa stamps
->on our passports would be great souvenirs.  

they're also good documentation later on, in the event you have to
document your travels for one reason or another ...

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# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: InterRail - 5 nations exit
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:56:49 GMT
	<1992Jul23.172209.6882@colorado.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU's message of 23 Jul 92 17:22:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.172209.6882@colorado.edu> citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin) writes:

   >I just got back from Portugal and I know that Spain was charging InteRail
   >passengers 5000 pesetas if they stopped over in Spain.  I met dozens
   >of people who had ridden straight through to Portugal in order to avoid
   >the fee.

   How can they tell?  What's to prevent you from getting off the train in
   Spain without paying the fee?

Ticket inspectors at ticket barriers in the railway station, I'd imagine.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: darcy@panix.com (Darcy Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Vienna & Munich
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:25:35 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC


hey everyone out there!!!

my mother and sister are going to munich and vienna!!  i am so happy for them..
this has been my mother's life dream!!

let me get to the point.. of course i want info...! please....

they would like to know if anyone can recommend good english speaking tours for
munich and vienna..  how far in advance do you need to make reservations?  they
are going to be there the last two weeks of september.. how much are these
tours? if possible, do you have a phone #?  contact names? 

is there anything interesting to see besides the "tour book obvious"? 

can anyone recommend good restuarants.. reasonable?

now for my last question... what is the weather like? now i know what they say
in the books.. BUT it usually varies greatly in reality!!!! i live in n.y.c.
and they say the average temp is in the 70's for september .. when in reality
every year, it goes up to the 90's!!!  so.. for the last 2 weeks in september,
should they bring a jacket.. a light one.. a heavy one.. sweaters??

thank you so very much!!

-- 
Darcy D. Lee
			BI BY NATURE!
darcy@panix.com
cmcl2!panix!darcy
From: simon@cs.city.ac.uk (Simon Brock-Gunn)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Lockers at Heathrow?
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:27:50 GMT
Organization: City University, London

In article <1992Jul20.031047.227@fccc.edu> morton@ceres.fccc.edu (Dan Morton) writes:

>Before I spend a business week in Geneva, I'm spending
>a vacation week in the north of England.  Don't need
>my duds 'til Geneva; I'd like to lighten my load.  Are
>there safe, inexpensive lockers at Heathrow that I
>can store a garment bag for a week?  

You wouldn't be able to use any coin-operated lockers since they only
store for 24 hours before automatically popping open, so you would have 
to use a manual left-luggage office.  I doubt whether there is one of 
these at Heathrow but even if there is it will suffer from the same 
trouble as all other left-luggage facilities in London airports, stations,
etc., which is that they are all liable to be closed at a moment's notice 
if there is anything worse than the usual security alerts.

I don't know how you are getting to the north of England, but if it is by
train then you will be far better off leaving your luggage at your
destination station (or the main-line station where you have to change
trains if you are going somewhere small).  Not only will it be a lot
cheaper, but there is very little chance of it being affected (ie closed)
because of terrorist threat.

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From: esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Travel Tips
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:23:18 GMT

In article <l6rqjhINNem1@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:

> Are there any U.S. domestic flights over six hours that don't go
> to or from Hawaii?   (or maybe Alaska?)

Almost any flight in or out of Chicago can come close.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: SV@smena.russia.msk.su (S.V.Vasiliev)
Subject: Accommodation and programme in Moscow - you are welcome
Reply-To: SV@smena.russia.msk.su
Organization: unknown
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:01:38 +0300

>From SV Sun Jul 19 17:04:26 MSD 1992
Status: RO

Hello, netters,

If you are going to visit Moscow and to accommodate and spend your time
quaranteed cheap and interesting - our information is for you.

The hotel 'Russia' is one the central hotels in Moscow. We propose you the
2-rooms appartment at the 6 floor. Windows at Red Square and Kremlin.
It is our constant appartment but during summer it will be empty and you can
use it. That's why it will cost $70 cash only instead of $150 per day common
price (all this till September). That's is very suitable for couples.

Those who want to save money most of all, we offer the summer discount condi-
tions:

A. Home-stay with russian family or single flat ($20-40 per day) with all meals
and tourist programme (or without it - upon your choice).
        The cheapest variant (a room in a flat, breakfast only, no programme) -
$12 per day.

B. Cheap ($25-45 per day) hotel with tourist programme.

C. Any types of tourist programmes: sightseeings, visiting of Kremlin,
cafedrals, monastries, White House of Russia, places of interest, aero-cosmic
points, museums, meetings on professional or political interests, etc.

D. Studying language and handicrafts ($30-50 per day). Visiting the world
famous centers of Russian folk-painting handicrafts: Chochloma, Cholyi,
Gorodets, etc.

Visa application as well.

Don't hesitate to contact me for further information.

SV@smena.russia.msk.su
fax 095-205-4403 or 205-4457

Regards

Sergey V.Vassiliev - SMENA Foundation president
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Alternatives to AAA?
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:15:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA/JSC

In article <1992Jul30.193808.17715@adobe.com> usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
writes:
>I've been less than thrilled with AAA for some time, especially
>in light of their reputation as an auto insurance company. I
>switched my auto insurance to Kemper several years ago, but I 
>am still a member of the AAA auto club, primarily to have
>emergency road service.
>
>Are there other large, well-established auto clubs offering
>this kind of service throughout the U.S.?
>
>Information very much appreciated.
>
>Alan
>asanders@adobe.com
>
>
>
You may try Mobil auto club. It costs $49.00 per year and includes the
following services and more. I have found it to be very good. Been a member for
aobut 8 years.

Towing reimbursement for ANY car you are riding in
Locksmith reimbursement
Expenses paid for retrieving your car that is being fixed in another city
Expenses for driving violations including DWI (I dont agree with this..but..)
Travel guides for vacations
Travel checks

And more. Call them at 1800-621-5581 for more details.
From: meir@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Yigal Meir)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Cititravel / Travel America in Half Price
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:44:15 GMT
Reply-To: meir@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Yigal Meir)
Distribution: na
Organization: UCSB Physics Department

Some time ago I was contacted by a Citibank representative, trying to
 convince me to join Cititravel club, which includes benefits such
 as 50% off selected hotels. Having a month to check it out before
 actually having to pay for it, I agreed. Yesterday I got the list
 of hotels and tried to book one. The price quoted to me was 58$,
 half price off the ~120$ a double room costs at that hotel, so they
 claimed. I later called and asked for the price of a double room 
 without mentioning my 50% off. I was quote a price of 65$ (a special,
 though).
 I was wondering if this is the typical "half-price" that I should
 expect to pay. If other people have any experience with this
 "Entertainment/Travel America at half price" plan, I would 
 appreciate any input.
--------------------
Yigal Meir
University of California
Santa Barbara
From: franck@ug.cs.dal.ca (Glenn Franck)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Heard of "America's Hotels Plus"? (discount club)
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:03:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada


I got this thing awhile ago for "America's Hotels Plus", a club, where, by
booking at certain hotels, you can get a 50% off room rate (some restrictions
for some hotels). I've seen a partial list of hotels, and there are some nice
ones included.

This sounds like a good deal, but I wanted to know, is anybody else out
there a member? Anybody heard of them or know any details? I have to travel
to New Mexico this fall, and was thinking of trying it out, but I don't
want to get shafted.

And, if you are a member, you know what hotels there would be in Santa Fe
that are participating?

Any and all info appreciated. Please post or e-mail (prefer the latter).
Thanks,

-Glenn


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From: tad@sun.com (Tad Davis [Central Area Server SE])
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Ixtapa <-> Taxco
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:31:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tad@sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: dementad.central.sun.com

If anyone has made the trip from Ixtapa to Taxco and back, I'd like to hear
from you.  I would like to know if it's possible to do a day trip and also
get some suggestions on places to eat and things to do in Taxco.

TIA,

demenTad
From: svr@gumbee.mlb.semi.harris.com (Susan Richmond)
Subject: Winter Carnival in Minneapolis/St.Paul
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:09:56 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

  My husband and I are planning to attend the Winter Carnival in Minneapolis/
  St.Paul this year.  I would like to hear anything about this event from
  someone who has been.  Tips on lodging (we won't have a car so we'd like
  to be close), places to see, things to do, etc...etc... would greatly
  be appreciated!  I've never seen snow (I'm a native Floridian) and would
  need some suggestions about clothing to bring.  I'm really excited!  Although
  I can't imagine there'd be too many things to do in winter...Hopefully I'm
  wrong!  We plan to stay about 5 days.  So if there's anbody in netland thats
  been, I'm real anxious to hear from you!

  Thanks

  Susan r.
From: tavares@danville (Jack Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Hiring Motorcycles in Florida
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:14:59 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

gcb@ukc.ac.uk (G.C.Blundell) writes:
: I am planning to go Florida in early September, and would like to 
: hire a motorcycle there( I can't drive a car). I have tried various companies
: here in the UK but the minimum age to hire a motorcycle through them
: is 21 for which I am too young.
: 
: So, does anyone know of any hire company or motorcycle shop which does
: hire out motorcycles for anyone under 21(preferably in the Orlando or
: Titusville area, but anywhere will suffice).
: 
: Gary.

I think you are out of luck. The places that I have seen that
rent MC say you must be 25 or older and have a valid MC license.

I did see an add for some place renting in Florida, but I cant 
remember where. It was either in the AMA (American Motorcyclist Mag)
or the BMWMOA magazine. 

Try posting to rec.motorcycles. Maybe somebody there can help


Jack Tavares     tavares@ctron.com <- use this address
DoD# 0570	BMWMOA# 58278	AMA# 651191	BMWRA#  16087
(stop me before I join again!)
83 R80ST	79 KZ LTD 400H (for sale) 
Disclaimer: Cabletron could care less!
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Need info for Amtrak travel
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:38:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.130035.2045@merrimack.edu> gemmellj@merrimack.edu writes:
>
>Be sure to double check w/ the agent that your bags are going to be on the 
>right train. 

You *checked* your bags?  Why?  There is ample luggage space in the
downstairs section of each coach car, plus you can stash your carry-ons
over your seat.

Charleen
--
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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Winter Carnival in Minneapolis/St.Paul
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:52:26 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Jul28.160956.17978@mlb.semi.harris.com> svr@gumbee.mlb.semi.harris.com (Susan Richmond) writes:
>  My husband and I are planning to attend the Winter Carnival in Minneapolis/
>  St.Paul this year.  I would like to hear anything about this event from
>  someone who has been.  Tips on lodging (we won't have a car so we'd like
>  to be close), places to see, things to do, etc...etc... would greatly
>  be appreciated!  I've never seen snow (I'm a native Floridian) and would
>  need some suggestions about clothing to bring.  I'm really excited!  Although
>  I can't imagine there'd be too many things to do in winter...Hopefully I'm
>  wrong!  We plan to stay about 5 days.  So if there's anbody in netland thats
>  been, I'm real anxious to hear from you!

America's (I mean the USA) biggest mall/amusement park opens near Minneapolis
next month.  Mall of America should keep you warm and busy if you get tired
of the Winter Carnival.

--Ken
From: macheske@aero.org (Richard M. Macheske)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Help with travel to a good dive spot
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:10:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA

The Subject says it all.  I'm thinking about taking a vaction
late september and want to do some diving.  Any help would be
appreciated.  We're thinking the caribean.

Rick
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