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From: rcmarab@athena.mit.edu (He Whose Name Is Not Spoken)
Subject: Re: Honest Question...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:42:23 GMT

For most of the clubs I go to, the primary purpose of clubs is to dance and
exhibit new musical styles, etc.  The standard introduction is normally "would
you like to dance?"  If she declines, then you move on and find someone else.  
Someone eventually will dance with you, trust me.  You just have to keep trying.

But then again, I'm a DJ and a dedicated clubhead so that approach might not work
for you.  Just make sure you're dressed appropriately, you aren't too
drunk/stoned, don't smell funny, and don't dance like a geek.

Lots of luck.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: tomault+@cs.cmu.edu (Thomas Galen Ault)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:25:46 GMT

In article <oneil.726642800@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
>cs64wag@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner) writes:
>
>>{cynicism ON}
>
>>I think it might have been Berke Breathed who first said "Women
>>are incredibly cuddly, beautiful creatures whose primary talent
>>is the ability to rip out your heart and feed it to the cat."
>
>>{or something like that}
>
>>{cynicism OFF}
>
>Maybe I date all the wrong guys, but I've never ripped out a guy's heart
>in order to feed it to the cat.  I've had the exact opposite experience,
>in fact.  The exact opposite.  So, I don't really think it is fair to 
>put the burden of guilt on women alone.  A man can break a woman's heart
>just as easily as a woman can break a man's heart.  I don't think I've
>ever broken up with a guy, although guys have broken up with me.  

Since this response seems so often to follow quotes like the one attributed
to Mr. Breathed, I thought I might inject this observation:  Quotes like the
one attributed by Mr. Breathed reflect the mystery and confusion with which
one sex views the other.  In reality, most break ups are rarely anyone's
"fault," but are rather the result of incompatible lives or personalities.
More often than not, one person interpreted the relationship to be more
serious than the other and as a result, got their "heart broken" from
expectations the other did not share.  Of course, this does not preclude
the all-too-frequent case wherein a commitment exists between two people
and one of them breaks it in such a way that it devestates the other.  In
either case, I suspect that the distribution of males and females with
broken hearts is probably equal.

There really isn't any way to avoid risking a broken heart, save to avoid
romantic relationships all together, but one can generally soften the blow
of broken hearts resulting from misunderstanding the other person's view of
the relationship through open and honest communication.  If one feels the
relationship is getting serious, one should probably take some time, sit
down with the other person, and talk about one's feelings with the other
in plain English.  No hints or double entendres allowed.  Say exactly what
you mean and make sure the other person knows what you mean.  Furthermore,
you must be prepared to accept that the other person might not feel the
same way.  Sure, it hurts, but it beats entangling your feelings even more
under the illusion that the other person reciprocates your depth of feeling,
and then getting ripped apart when the other leaves.

>
>What proves what kind of a person you are, though, is how you go about it.
>One guy "ripped out my heart and fed it to the cat" whereas the other two
>guys are still my friends.
>

I don't really think there's a "good" way to break up with someone, but some
ways are much better than others.

>
>Sharon
>oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu
>
>

Tom Ault


Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
From: cowboy@sunws7.sys.cs.psu.edu (Richard M Kessler)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? (#2)
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 04:40:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.163405.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> quirke_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>> rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes:
>
>>    and strong enough to say the 3 most powerful words in the english language, 
>>    and mean them whole-heartedly.
>> 
>> "I got rhythm"?
>
>How 'bout either "The rabbit died" or "The test's positive" ?
>
>Tony Q.


or

"Where's the Remote?"


--cowboy@cs.psu.edu

-- 
All of the previous shit was my opinion, but in not one way humble.
If you don't like it, don't read it.  
If you do like it you should you should have your head examined.
Really, I am this obnoxious in person too.
From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: I don't think any caring man needs a "come on" line.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date:  4 Jan 1993 18:00 EST  

In article <C0A4vx.Gtp@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Fippen) writes...
>	This net is degenerating into a place where junk thoughts prevail. 

The evidence is all around us ... :-)

>All this talk about "come on" line is for the stupid. 

As I've noticed ... you joined in, John. Mea Culpa ? 

>Any woman with any self respect at all wouldn't have anything to do with 
>the creeps that hide behind a "come on" line. 

Ever hear of parody, John ? How about humor ? How about caracature ? These 
lines are fun to play with *because* we find them stupid and stereotypical, 
not because we believe them to be a good way to meet women. Often, however, 
a woman with reasonable self-esteem can laugh at these lines *with* you, 
thus the *do* make good ice-breakers. Approaching a woman you don't know 
with *too* serious an attitude is probably a lot more likely to scare her 
off than playing around with one of these cliches ... also, the fact that 
she recognizes it as a joke helps determine her sense of humor and 
intellect right up front, a test you failed miserably from my vantage point, 
John. 

>Actually, these lines are a misnomer; they should be called
>"turn off" lines, which is their proper name.

Thank you, John ... what is the proper name for Car... and Cat ? surely, 
you have the definative answer. 


>	How about treating women with gentleness and respect; 

Jerking around with these lines in a public talk forum in no way precludes 
the above. 

>it goes a long way and keeps you out of the gutter.

And finding offense under every stone goes a *long* way toward sweeping 
you into repression. 

-- Stephen

{Experimental .sig # 30245/T}

Humans -- 

	Beings stupid enough to create their own monsters, and then 
	curse their luck when they run into them.
From: marie.silveira@madness.network23.com (Marie Silveira) 
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: EXPECTATIONS AND IDEALISM
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Terminal Madness BBS - Newport, RI - 401-848-9069
Reply-To: marie.silveira@madness.network23.com (Marie Silveira) 

From my experience most men are just naturally unromantic.  ]
I know what you mean about not wanting to come out and tell him what you
want.  If you had to tell him, it wouldn't be romamtic, right?
I don't know what you can do about it.  I tried hinting things to my
ex-boyfreind, and he never got the hint.  I think if you told a friend
to tell him, then maybe it would work...
        How do you tell a guy that an occasional flower or card for no
apparent reason would make your day?  Maybe just going out to dinner at
a decent restaurant once in awhile...nothing fancy, just not McD's.
        Luckily I've found the type of  guy I've aways dreamed of.
He had no clue what to get me for Christmas, and I had no clue what to
get him.  We haven't been going out that long, so we didn't wabt to get
anything too personal.  Well, I ended up telling him what I wanted, and
he liked what I got him, But what made it so special was the card he
gave me.  He got one of those blank cards that you can write in, and he
wrote a poem to me about how he feels for me.  I thought it was very
romamntic, and it really touched my heart.

---
Marie
                
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: Equality between men and women; is there such a thing?
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 16:00:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.153141.9249@udel.edu> carroll@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Mark C. Carroll) writes:
>In article <93002.201921ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>>definately the term "equal" needs defining......let's look at it from a
>>military point of view.....yes, a woman can fly a jet as good as a man....
>>yes a woman can sail a ship as good as a man....but NO a woman could
>>participate in the jungles of some south eastern country.
>
>And why not?
>
>Is a woman automatically a weak, trembling, helpless little thing? If
>you think that, I've got some friends to introduce you to...
>
>>... Maybe as a
>>nurse or medic, but not in the jungle working in teams....
>
>If you think being a nurse or medic on the front in a war is any
>easier or less stressful than being a soldier, then you're one sad son
>of a bitch...
>
>>... especially
>>the work I did in Viet Nam......a womans survival rate would probably
>>be about 2 or 3 seconds.
>
>Ooooh, big man... He's so macho, no woman could do what he did...

Look guys, there is no reason to get nasty about this.  Unless you
were in Nam doing what this guy did, you have no right to belittle his
opinions.

This is a touchy subject and as you can see emotions are starting to
run very strong about it.  So, lets just take a moment to cool off and
try to keep a level head about this.  It's not hard to see where wars
start...

rip
-- 
Grab reality by the balls, and squeeze...
                                        Tempus
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date:  4 Jan 1993 17:39 EST  

In article <1993Jan1.020146.1047@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Catherine.Collingwood@launchpad.unc.edu (Catherine Collingwood) writes...
> 
>Strong enough to admit when he is weak.
> 

Sorry, I'm just not that strong... er... wait a minute ...

I JUST DID IT ! :-)


>Lady Firebird

Isn't this that sexist new Pontiac I've read about ? :-)

-- Stephen

{Experimental .sig # 30245/T}

Humans -- 

	Beings stupid enough to create their own monsters, and then 
	curse their luck when they run into them. 
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From: lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Equality between men and women; is there such a thing?
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:41:48 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <C0Cy47.E1F@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.161115.15126@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>Anyway, I think we are coming down way to hard on this guy without
>>knowing where he is coming from.
>>rip
>
>I agree with Rip.  There's an old saying, something along the lines
>of:
>
>Judge me not until you have walked a mile in my mocassins <shoes, etc>
>
>I think it's very fitting.  
>
>Mary/GEMR

and as another saying goes.... "If the Shoe Fits, Wear It."

My brother was in Nam.... I saw what it did to him.  He survived
the hell of the war (altho it mentally and physically put
him thru one helluva beating), came home, and was killed in a vehicle
accident related to alchol.  We have many different kinds of
wars in this world.   Let's Try to Work Together.

Lis, The Official Good Romantic Witch

p.s.  Heaven is a *Hug* and a *Smile*
      the Joy of Music and the Beauty of Silence
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From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,soc.couples,soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? (#2.3)
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:02:42
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
	<7JAN199314362783@vax2.concordia.ca> <1ijtidINNdev@smurf.sub.org>
	<8JAN199309154074@vax2.concordia.ca>
NNTP-Posting-Host: grover.cs.unc.edu
In-reply-to: rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca's message of Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:15:00 GMT

In article <8JAN199309154074@vax2.concordia.ca> rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes:

   also i want to add a third "strong" : 
   strong enough to wait for me, as long as it takes.

Actually, I've been taking a bronchitis drug called Humibid that seems
to be very helpful with this.

Talk about your unexpected side effects.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? (#2)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:19:25 GMT


In article <7JAN199314362783@vax2.concordia.ca> rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rose
mary from Montreal) writes:
>
>and strong enough to say the 3 most powerful words in the english language,
>and mean them whole-heartedly.
>


hhhmmmmmmm.......FUCK....OFF....BITCH....?????
-- 
"Nobody tells a Navy man when he's had enough to drink, cause only a Navy man
 knows when he's had enough to drink!"
-Steven J Orlin   sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.war,soc.womenam
From: Graydon H <coventry@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: women as incapable soldiers?.
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:10:19 GMT
	<1993Jan5.225135.324@wetware.com>


 
>] Better...
>] 
>] > yes a woman can sail a ship as good as a man....but NO a woman could
>] > participate in the jungles of some south eastern country.  Maybe as a
>] > nurse or medic, but not in the jungle working in teams....especially
>] > the work I did in Viet Nam......a womans survival rate would probably
>] > be about 2 or 3 seconds.
>] 
>] There are women today who could... There were women who could have done your
>] work in Nam better than you did... And with proper training, there are no
>] reasons why women would be poorer soldiers than men...
>
>{ Yo, Monte, We have another brother with an attitude
>who needs a little help coming to grips with it all.... }

-- other follow up quotes and comments removed, I only wish to comment on the
above.

is it fair to pass judgement on an entire sex as being ill equipped to deal
with X situation, given the roles into which is sculpted by modern society? It
seems only fair to say that a woman is, for the most part, as capable of
preforming any or all exercises, but given the women that a given society (the
onw you single out) and it's female resources, they wouldn't. Just because an
enture nation was hand-carved to be like barbie (tm), doesn't mean that's the
only thing a woman as a biological being with one of the best brains on the
planet is capable of.

coventry@zooid.guild.org

"no, as you can plainly see, we are the phantom ladies of salonica"
-Aldiss
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-)
Subject: Re: Equality between men and women; is there such a thing?
Organization: OFSA
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:49:08 GMT

<IDJMW@ASUACAD.BITNET> remarks:

>maybe so.... maybe so....

what?

>
>but i defy a man to have a baby

I had three babies!! Oh, you mean HAVE a baby...nevermind.

>
>the pain would make him insane in no time flat

I believe it is a scientific fact that the average woman has a higher
pain threshold then the average man.

Mabye not, I might just be making that up...but I saw my ex-wife go
through three natural deliveries...NO drugs of any kind. I wouldn't
wanna have to do that. Of course I have also known women that went
into the hospital and said "Put me out completely and wake me up when
it is over."

>(toots)

<honk>


Xref: sparky alt.romance:15697 alt.war:2340 soc.women:22199
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.war,soc.women
Subject: Shift the LZ...
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:56:12 GMT
Followup-To: alt.sex,alt.war
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper

harrisl@equinox.unr.edu (Larry Harris) writes:

] In article <93003.182634ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET> ICSJM@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
] >1--women don't have the same strength as men....a 110 lb. woman can not carry
] >    her partner 25 miles back to a pick up point, and arrive on time
] 
] A 110 lb. man couldn't do this also. And BTW folks, don't let anyone convince
] you otherwise.

other thought comes to mind....

shift the LZ....

Pop Smoke, and call for Air Support.....

There were a lot of Cute Pilots who could not make
it 5 klicks to get to a clean LZ....

And a lot of Jolly Green Crews that went down
trying to compensate....

so what is your point?

Pilots are Girls?


ciao
drieux


-- 
Modern Day Problems:

"lets get linear, I want to get linear, linear"
				Olivia Newton Algegra
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: djd7889@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (Douglas J. Deutsch)
Subject: Re: Where did you meet your SO?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio
Date:  6 Jan 1993 08:16 EST  

In article <1993Jan6.064348.26971@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, bss2p@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Brent S. Stone) writes...
>As long as Heather got the ball rolling on the 
>subject of meeting people, where you meet your
>current partner?  Theorizing where to meet
>people is one thing, what works is another.  
>So how about some info for the group?

We were (and still are) attending Bowling Green State University.  I was 
working in one of the campus computer labs.  Kathy, my SO (and fiance), was
working on an accounting project and was having problems using Lotus, so I
helped her.  Since she lived directly above me in our apartment building, she
asked if I could give her a ride home, since it was late and also cold (mid
December).  After I got off work, I gave her a ride home, and as we walked to
our apartment building, I asked her out.  The rest, as they say, is history.

DJD

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From: rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Date: 5 Jan 93 00:11:41 GMT
Reply-To: rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <C0Cr9p.5BC@cs.dal.ca> earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mark Earhard) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.184411.8524@news.columbia.edu> rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston) writes:
>>In article <C0CAx6.Mux@cs.dal.ca> earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mark Earhard) writes:
>>>In article <0096604B.47EFA5E0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> uphrrmk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>>>>In article <C04LDD.BL3@world.std.com>, aep@world.std.com (Andrew E Page) writes:
>>>>>Strong enough to keep two hearts from breaking.
n>>>>>
>>>(Men *AND* Women)
>>>Strong enough to respect themselves and those around them.
>>
>>Nope. Strong enough to respect those people, and only those people
>>who are worthy of respect. It takes a lot more strength to have actual,
>>reasonable standards than to blindly respect
>
>Oh, fiddle faddle. 
>
>Ok, so I was making a BlanketAssumption about people's ability to
>figure out who they should respedt and who they should not.  Wait
>a sec, do I have to predicate everything I say with all sorts of
>crap about what I actually intended a really straightforward sentance
>to say?  And just *WHY* does it take so much more strength to respect
>only individuals that *YOU* deem (Remember- someone is only worthwhile
>in your *OPINION*) important than respecting everyone?
>
>Not that I think people should respect *everyone* but hell, I'll take
>that side of the fence for the moment.
>
>
>Ooops, I forgot this is the land of BlanketNonAssumptions.
>
>Or is this what I get for posting a one line response?
>
>Marcus.

The problem is that there are people who believe that everyone should
be respected, regardless of whether or not respect has been earned.

I don't know you well enough to differentiate between an attempt
at a concise response, and sheer lunacy. I apologize for assuming the 
latter. It does seem though that most people I've encountered over the
net who write things that may be interpreted as being loony, are, in fact,
just that.

Robert Johnston
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter)
Subject: Re: Equality between men and women; is there such a thing?
Organization: Salter, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:34:40 GMT

eng10276@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAM CHUAN YAP) shares: 
>Just want to make an announcement. A new stydy say that making love have
>a hypnotic efect on the male that causes him to fall asleep more easily.
>Trust me, it's true. 

Actually, you are right.  I have a book that talks about that issue.  Of
course, I don't have it here at work with me, but if I remember right, it
produces something in the body that causes drowsyness

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Julie Salter<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
            President, Romantic Fire Association
  Wife of the Official Fireside Sex Advisor..AKA: Steven Salter
"Look into my eyes...you will see....what you mean to me......"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>email: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
From: sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven J Orlin)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:20:35 GMT


In article <1993Jan8.105704.18429@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.c
om (Bronis Vidugiris) writes:
>
>In pondering this question, it might be helpful to think of the
>reverse:
>
>"How weak should a woman be?"

weak enough to say," I'm sorry, its all my fault, I'll do all the work tonight"





-
-- 
"Nobody tells a Navy man when he's had enough to drink, cause only a Navy man
 knows when he's had enough to drink!"
-Steven J Orlin   sorlin@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu  /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Newsgroups: alt.romance