HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: US/European releases
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 15:29:08 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1g2aahINN1ger@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE><71267@cup.portal.com>
  <2B285F48.14570@news.service.uci.edu>,<71535@cup.portal.com>
  <1gk4a1INNion@golem.wcc.govt.nz>

I don't know if the figures Spectrum Holobyte gave were just for the
US or worldwide.. remember that this was just the figure for the
first three months.  I imagine total sales will continue with the
same ratio however..

The thing to remember is that even if they DID have 100% greater sales
in Europe, that would STILL only amount to 1400 units sold,
versus 10,000 for IBM.  That 10 to 1 ratio should send a pretty strong
message to any company that has to allocate resources where they will
acheive the best return.. 

Didn't Atari say exactly the same thing about why they almost totally
ignored the US market to concentrate on European sales..?

Also, the relative quality of the product still doesn't have any impact
on the ratio of sales.  The PC product still sold 10 times as many
units, no matter how good the product was.

None of this reflects on the quality of Atari computers.. it only reflects
actual, real-world experience in the computer marketplace.

BobR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: nollert@nova.tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de (Hans-Peter Nollert)
Subject: Re: Zoo shells
Organization: TAT (Theoretical Astrophysics Tuebingen), U. of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:25:57 GMT

kronos@cyberden.uucp writes:

>I'm trying to decompress a large zoo file with a half-meg of memory.
>The shells I've been using for ZOO.ttp are either buggy or won't
>let me decompress individual files with a query function, so the
>memory is filled up and I can't get the complete file. Any suggestions
>of ZOO shells that would do the trick?

I'm not quite sure I really understand your question. If you just want
to selectively uncompress files, you could do this from a CLI using

  zoo  {archive}  [file1 file2 ...]

where file1 file2 ... are the names of the selected files. They may
contain wildcards, but I'm not sure about the details. If you omit the
file specifications, the whole archive is extracted.

If you don't want to use a CLI, you could try it from the desktop and
enter the appropriate parameter list when you are prompted for it.

I don't know about zoo shells specifically, since I'm using a CLI
myself. 

Hans-Peter
--
Lehr- und Forschungsbereich Theoretische Astrophysik (TAT),
Universitaet Tuebingen,  Auf der Morgenstelle 10,  D-7400 Tuebingen,   Germany
Tel.: 49-7071-295921     Telefax: 49-7071-295400   Telex: 726 2867 UTNA D    
nollert@tat.physik.uni-tuebingen.de                PSI%45050260314::NOLLERT
From: rchan@terapin.com (Ronald Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: HELP please!
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:45:51 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Dec14.132258.11708@crc.ac.uk>, naffara@crc.ac.uk (Dr. N.A.
Affara) writes:
>I have just got a second hand Mega ST4 + hard disk (SH205).
>I am well chuffed with it!!!!
>
>But I have a few (ok, lots of) questions:-
>1. The desktop info says copyright 1986,1987. Is this TOS 1.0 or 1.2?
>2. What fixes will I need for this, and also for 1.4 which is in my ST?
>3. What programs/files do I need to keep the hard disk working?
>   (eg ahdi.prg (?) + HD???.???)
>   (The basic programs to make it work, and anything to format it etc.)
>4. Ratehd.prg tells me the SH205 has an Adaptec 4000/4070 controller, 88 ms 
>   seek rate (pretty crap!) and 299Kb/sec transfer rate. How does the transfer
>   rate compare with other hard disks (like a Protar which I am going to get)
>   and also floppies?
>5. It has a blitter, but I haven't opened it up (yet!) to see what else there
>   is. (eg VME (?) or whatever you call it). If it has got one, what can I put
>   in it?
>6. It is suprising how fast you can fill up 20 megs, especially when just the
>   fonts for Timeworks take up 5 megs!
>7. Will a cache of some kind speed up the HD? (I am still not satisfied!)
>   If so, which programs are recommended?
>8. Is it possible to upgrade the mega to TOS 1.4? (how, cost, is it worth it?)
>9. Anything else I should get or know?
>
>Thanks for taking the trouble to get this far :-)
>Phil
>(E-mail naffara@uk.ac.crc)
>(or maybe naffara@crc.ac.uk)
>-- 
>Kryten (When Cat says why don't we raise the defensive shields?) "A
superlative
>suggestion sir,with only two drawbacks: one,we don't have any defensive
shields
>and two,we don't have any defensive shields.I know that,technically,that's
only
>one drawback,but it was such a big one I thought I'd mention it twice".
Mega's original came with TOS 1.2, so that is what you have.  TOS 1.4's last
copyright date should be 1989, plus it would be hard not to see the rainbow
effect on the Atari logo (assuming you have color).

You'll need folderxxx.prg or else all folders on the HD will wreak havoc.

You don't have a VME, but you do have an internal DMA for things like internal
hard discs.  To tell you the truth, an Atari hard disc will have a lousy seek
rate...period.  If you can afford it, try getting a SCSI HD with an ICD host
adaptor; you won't be sorry.  Also, I would chuck Timworks in favor of
PageStream or Calamus... just my opinion, of course.

Yes, you can upgrade to TOS 1.4; I did it just a few days ago.  It cost me
about $60 installed.

I recommend you get an alternate desktop like NeoDesk.  It will make your life
a whole lot easier.  Get a floppy formatter like FCopy Pro that will allow you
to format MS-DOS, more that 80 tracks, etc.  The desktop disc formatter/copier
stinks!  Universal Item Selector would also help since the built in selector
smells even worse.

Get a boot up utility like Superboot so you can have different configurations
in not time.  You'll need it if you are going to use GDOS.
From: mjuschke@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Michael Juschke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Appologies
Date: 16 Dec 1992 10:09:16 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

Hi,

since this is a discussion group, as somebody pointed out to me, I got
some mail telling me that posting a source and binary code here, will cause
some people some inconvenience (time and money wise).
As I have started using the news not too long ago, I am quite unaware of
what and what not to do, so I would like to appologise to anybody who is
part of the nets where it costs money to get the news or where it will
take ages to get them through snail modems.

Michael
From: kronos@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: accelerators
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 18:34:13 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I'm checking out accelerator boards for my ST. I've heard of one in the 
Atari Explorer for $120 or so. Does anyone know of it or where it can be
found. Else, what accelerators are suggested.

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ kronos@cyberden.uucp ]
From: mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon - Future
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:54:58 GMT
Reply-To: mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk (Mathew Lodge)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

In article <724450636.15192@minster.york.ac.uk> mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk (Mathew Lodge) writes:
>In article <37831@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
>>In article <723856948.23343@minster.york.ac.uk> mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk (Mathew Lodge) [That's me, that is] writes:
>>> What's more, the same company that did the Atari Unix port also did the
>>> Amiga SysV port, and the Mac SysV port.
>>
>>Since Commodore did their own System V port for the Amiga, the above is
>>pretty bogus...
>
>I'll check my source on the Amiga port (the ST and Mac stuff is definitely
>correct (although Apple did some munging of the port themselves afterward))
>The conversation where I heard the info was over a year ago. Anyhow, I'll
>get back to you :-)

It seems Commodore sent the company in question an evaluation machine, but
as George points out Commodore did their own port. Sorry for the mistake.

Mat

| Mathew Lodge                      | "I don't care how many times they go    |
| mjl-b@minster.york.ac.uk          |  up-tiddly-up-up. They're still gits."  |
| Langwith College, Uni of York, UK |  -- Blackadder Goes Forth               |
From: michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Goodbye Atari
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:23:18 GMT

Original to: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu
In a message of <04 Dec 1992 21:08:3>, dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (3:713/602)
writes:

 d> Such people have so little life that they've actually become a danger
 d> to society.  It's just a computer.  Just a computer company.  Not a
 d> religion or a politcal party.  Let's all try to keep that in mind for
 d> the sake of everyone's sanity.

Hear hear! (and thanks too 8)

 d> I don't think that wishing death upon someone is immature; I think
 d> that's basic sociopathy.  :)

*grin*

 d> Dave Baggett

\`miff`                                                       /|\

 d> ADVENTIONS: interactive fiction (text adventures) for the 90's!

More info? mail will do fine...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: malay@sae.com (Bob Malay)
Subject: Re: GIF/RAW/RCS/SPC ETC.
Reply-To: malay@sae.com
Organization: Template Software
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:06:29 GMT

In article 11919@informatik.uni-bremen.de, christof@wowbagger.pc-labor.uni-bremen.de (Christoph Koerner) writes:
>
>Another problem (distorting the picture out of its "true" proportions)
>seems to occur with GIFs that have their height greater than their
>width.  It would be a *great* thing if the "squash picture/select
>320x200 section of picture" option could be extended to handle cuts of
>arbitrary size from the original picture (maybe even allow the user to
>distort his selected section thus giving complete control over any
>part of the picture. I know this is not easy to implement.)
>

No sense in re-inventing the wheel - a lot of this stuff exists in the pbmplus
code - all they would have to do is yank out the appropriate modules and
and make a few mods.

>
>While I'm complainig:
>A *serious* flaw of the native PCS viewer/slideshow is that it expects
>the pictures to be on drive a! This *really* needs to be fixed! :-)
>

Or at least documented - I found out by watching my drive light come on.

Bob Malay




Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: edmoore@vcd.hp.com (Ed Moore)
Subject: Re: ?DETATCHABLE LCD PROJECTION SDREEN
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:04:03 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

My notes show: 1/14/92 PC Magazine, page 56 -
NovaCorp Rever Cruiser notebook is also an LCD projection panel.  I don't have
the magazine around now to look at.
From: jcrawfor@note.nsf.gov (Jim Crawford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: PCMCIA v.32bis Modems
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:00:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.laptops
Organization: National Science Foundation

Hi.  Anyone know if v.32bis PCMCIA data/fax modems are available yet?

Thanks,

-- Jim C.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: millerric@urvax.urich.edu
Subject: Has ANYONE ever seen a FreeStyle?
Reply-To: millerric@urvax.urich.edu
Organization: University of Richmond
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 15:18:15 GMT

Just a frustrated question:
 
Has anyone -- ANYWHERE -- ever received a Zeos FreeStyle computer?  I've
been biding my time, waiting for the rave reviews, but I've never seen more 
than a cursory reference like, "The Zeos FreeStyle is a newly released
notebook."

It would seem that Zeos has missed the boat.  Whatever novelty the FreeStyle
could have capitalized upon has been turned commonplace during our LONG wait
for its release.

If I'm wrong, and it's been reviewed somewhere, or someone HAS one, please 
contact me at the address below (I read this column as much as possible,
but I have more frequent access to my EMail via America Online).

Thanks in advance,
Rich Miller
MILLERRIC@URVAX.URICH.EDU / RICHMILLER@AOL.COM
Xref: sparky comp.sys.laptops:4616 comp.sys.palmtops:3980
From: shri@unreal.cs.umass.edu (H.Shrikumar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops,comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Are there restrictions on traveling overseas with laptops?
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:17:50 GMT
Reply-To: shri@unreal.cs.umass.edu (H.Shrikumar)
Followup-To: comp.sys.laptops
Distribution: usa
Organization: UMass, Amherst MA + Temporal Sys & Computer Networks Bombay India

In article <1992Dec7.183336.11149@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> 
   rhw@att.com (Robert Wentworth) writes:
> 
> Am I likely to experience any legal problems in doing so, either from
> those countries or from the US? ( ... export restricted s/w on disk )

   I hope someone with greater authority will comment on this. (tho'
it does not seem very "wise" to be carrying such stuff.)

But I just wanted to add in ...

   Some airlines do have a brain dead policy about computers. Air India
is a particular case in point, and this alone is a big reason for me
to avoid this line, since I do often need to work on the flight.

  But during my trip to India this thanxgiving, due to various 
reasons I had to fall back to flying Air India, and I was a little
worried about landing in Delhi ill-prepared.

  I discovered to my great thrill however that I was able to carry 
my palmtop in and out and use it to my hearts content during the 
whole trip ... thanx to the simple fact that the HP95LX does not
say "PC" or "Computer" anywhere, and it does look isomorphic to
one of those "databanks", which in the airlines scheme of things
is *not* a computer.

   Wonderful ! Another good reason in favour of the hp!

> I'll be okay.  Is the US the only country on a 110/120 V standard?)

   I think Japan is also on 110. And many 220 countries are really 240V
nominal, with peaks of just under 260V at night ... so its prudent to
select well designed adapters that can take greater punishment.

-- shrikumar ( shri@legato.cs.umass.edu, shri@iucaa.ernet.in )
From: melz@well.sf.ca.us (Melvin L. Zwillenberg)
Subject: Toshiba T1000 with DOS 3.3, external floppy, more.
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:40:08 GMT


 FOR SALE:



 A very SPECIAL T-1000. A previous owner had DOS 3.3, Sidekick and

 KEDIT (an excellent text editor) burned into a ROM with which he replaced

 the original ROM.(Thus, this machine can easily be used with parallel-port

 hard drives which require DOS 3.X) The original KEDIT and Sidekick Manuals

 are included. The 768K RAMCard is installed, so you have a total of 1280K

 which can be divided as you like. I use 640K system RAM and 640K HardRAM

 non-volatile RAMDISK D: but you can reduce the RAMDisk and use some as

 Expanded Memory (EMS). This machine also has an extended capacity battery

 (nealy brand new) which gives 7.5 hours between charges.



 TOSHIBA Car battery adapter for the T-1000 (use your cigarette lighter

 socket) $50.



 External 5.25" 360K Flo
From: ar017@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nolan Whitaker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: 486SLC Notebook from TREDEX for $1300
Date: 17 Dec 1992 03:34:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I ran across a good deal on a Bondwell 486SLC notebook
computer today, and I thought I would pass the info
along to the rest of you since I know a good many of
you are looking for a good deal on something like this.
(--especially in light of some of the more recent net
   for sale posts...but that's another story)
 
SPECS:
    Bondwell 486SLC
    25 mHz
    2 meg RAM
    80 meg HD
    >9" Screen (Can't remember what the salesman said- I
                haven't seen it yet)
    Ext. 1.44 meg floppy
    4.7 lbs (not counting floppy--don't know if it
             includes the battery)
    Battery life- didn't ask
 
ANYWAY, the price is $1300 (credit card price)
 
So I ordered one!  Considering that I've seen 20 mHz 386sx
notebooks that weigh more with an asking price of $1500 or
so on the net (not faulting them for trying- so please reduce
the temperature on your flame thrower), I thought it was a
sensational deal.  These are probably refurbished units, but
you still get a warranty...This didn't concern me so I didn't
ask.
 
SELLER:  Tredex, 5306 Beethoven Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90066.
            1-800-338-0939  or   (310) 301-0300
                    FAX: 310-301-0313
 
They charged about $30 for UPS ground shipping/insurance from
CA to KY.
 
THIS HAS NOT BEEN ADVERTISED YET, SO THERE SHOULD BE PLENTY IN
STOCK.  THEY WILL GO FAST ONCE ADVERTISED--most of Tredex's stuff
is gone rather quickly.  I missed out on the 486DX/33 Tower system
with 130 meg HD & 4 meg RAM for $899 that I wanted...
 
 
Disclaimer:  I am just a happy customer (my 2nd order).  I do not
work for Tredex and receive no compensation from them.  This is
not an offer for sale.  It is provided for informational puposes
only.  Non of the information may be correct.  The info is offerred
as is with no warranties express or implied.  (See what law school
will do to you? And this is only after 1 semester.)
 
Nolan W. Whitaker
uk02728@ukpr.uky.edu
73030,427
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Subject: Re: Looking for Toshiba T3300SL / Z-Note 325SL owners comments
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:00:18 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <9640015@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> mic@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Clarke) writes:
>A design lab across the way from me bought about 20 T3300SLs.  They
>have had to return about 50% of the Toshibas to the factory for
>repair.  What a bunch of unhappy campers.

What was wrong with them?

-- 
_______________________________Mike Schuster________________________________
NY Pub. Access UNIX/Internet: schuster@panix.com | 70346.1745@CompuServe.COM
The Portal (R) System: schuster@shell.portal.com | MCI Mail,GEnie: MSCHUSTER
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: gap5u@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory Perron)
Subject: Going Price for T1200HB?
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:47:53 GMT

I was wondering what the going price for a used (they don't make em
any more) T1200 laptop was.  I'm considering selling my laptop (though
my parents have first shot).  It was bought in 10/89 and has 1M ram,
20M hard drive, backlit CGA, 8086.  I bought it new for $1800, then a
very good price.  Any idea what I could ask for it nowdays?  It is
still in very good condition and comes with Toshiba carrying case,
original manuals, AC adapter.

Thanks. Also, how high the selling price on it is makes a big
difference in whether it gets sold or kept for my parents.


--
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Gregory Perron        | Greg's Law: Understand what I say, not
gap5u@virginia.edu    | what I mean.  No, wait, that's not right...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
From: rrempel@selkirk.sfu.ca (Rod Rempel)
Subject: Re: ThinkPad 700 - no summary :-(
Keywords: thinkpad,ibm,notebook,486
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:31:16 GMT

melissa@romulus (Melissa Woo) writes:

>My apologies to all the people who have mailed me about any info I might
>receive on the IBM ThinkPad 700/700C.

>The only info I got at all was from a nice gentleman who owns another of
>the IBM laptops, and commented that the keyboard was great, and that he
>is happy with his machine.

>I'm not sure, but the lack of responses may be due to production or
>shipping delays with the ThinkPad.  One of the network people over here
>told me that she ordered her Thinkpad back in October, and still has not
>received it.

Yeah... here in Canada the color beasts theoretically sell for 4995 -
basically the same price once to tack on the exchange ...

I don't honestly believe that IBM wants to sell any of them though. While
they may be the best color laptop available today, IBM seems to be doing
their best to hide the fact:

We had our local computer fair a month or so back. Apple brought their 
new stuff, Next ditto, Zenith ditto ... and so on. IBM sent a co-op kid
with one of the portable printers (a nice relabling of some other company's
product ...) and some photocopies of the brochures for the 700 series -
not even the glossy brochures themselves.

I made an appointment a week later to go and try the only demo version 
(or so I was told) for British Columbia, drove downtown to the IBM tower
(in Vancouver), and was allowed to play with the 700C. It was running
OS2, despite having only 4 Meg of memory. Again I had to conclude that
IBM was doing its best to make the 700C as unappealing as possible.

After talking to the university computer store I found out that I could
get the same price at any other IBM dealer because of the new pricing 
policy (the same pricing policy that will keep the university store from
ever getting a demo unit in, by the way...). I looked in the telephone book
and finally had to call the 800 number to ask where my "local dealer" is.
After an embarassed pause the operator had to tell me that there are no
authorized ThinkPad dealer in the Greater Vancouver area (population
pushing 2 million, including two universities...).

I'm standing here, with $5000 I want to give to a company for their 
product, and they seem to be doing their best to avoid taking it?!!?

Reached a point where I will wait for something else ... too bad, I really
like the little pointer-thing in the keyboard. Not enough to put up with
any more IBM s#%t though...

Rod Rempel
Department of Kinesiology, Simon Fraser University 
... if two million people do a stupid thing it's still a stupid thing.

>-- 
>Melissa Woo
>melissa@romulus.ehs.uiuc.edu	    <---- use this address if replying --
>Dept. of Physiology and Biophysics	  the one in the poster is broken
>Univ. of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign            :-(
From: ritc0003@student.tc.umn.edu (Kent Ritchie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Shareware Stacker-like Program?
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:42:07 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

Does anyone know of a shareware like stacker program that compresses the 
whole drive instead of specific files?  And it needs to work for a hardram.
Or does anyone use Stacker on a hardram?  Is it worth $60?


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^Physics 136         is not yet what it ought     kritchie@mvax.spa.umn.edu^
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