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From: erf@progress.COM (Eric Feigenson)
Subject: Re: Popluar Photography (was does Popular Photography really protect/assist its readers?)
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:28:39 GMT

fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix) writes:

>In article <1992Sep28.230718.29537@indetech.com> alix@indetech.com (Alexandria North) writes:
>>
>>By the way, I was wondering if anyone on the net has ever received their 
>>free Nikon magazine sample issue for sending in their warranty/reg cards
>>and filling out the questionnaire. I did this for my Nikon 8008s back in 
>>April, but I've never seen a Nikon magazine...

>Let's see...three new Nikons (4004, 4004s, 8008) in our house over a three-
>year period, all cards/forms filled out, signed, sent in.

>Never have seen so much as a single issue of any Nikon magazine.

>Some marketing mail, though (announcement of some new product, text no
>pictures).

I received my copy after about four or five (maybe six?) months after
sending in my 8008s warranty card.  A co-worker received *his* after
maybe a month of sending in his 6006 warranty card.  I called Nikon
World after around two months, and they sent me a (old) copy, and I
received my "official" freebie copy a few months later.

Since it's a quarterly publication, and they probably batch up a list
of people who get complementary copies, there's probably a long delay.

Go figure.

-EricF
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: Tom Thumb
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Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 00:08:10 GMT

In article <SIMONS.92Oct5104451@tuntu.think.com> simons@tuntu.think.com (
oshua Simons) writes:
>
>Sorry if this is a silly question, but is it possible to take a picture
>that would look as if it was taken by a small person (someone on the ord
r
>of a few inches tall) with an appropriately scaled 35mm camera? I'd like
to 
>end up with a standard sized print of the same quality as prints from 
>standard 35mm film.
>
>Any ideas? Thanks.
>
>josh simons
>
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      If mean the perspective of a small people 
    try wide lense  ( Fish eye to 24mm or what ever you feel 
    right)  Now  take the picture from  ground level 
    shooting up. I think it's called worm view
     
    Ground level = Very low on the ground. You might even
                   lie on your back.
     Hope this help 
Muskie
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: All-weather options?
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:32:15 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

739chan1@gw.wmich.edu wrote:
> I've seen pictures of a National Geographic photographer wading neck deep 
> in Lake Something in Africa. He was holding a regular Nikon with a 600mm(?)
> telephoto attached. One slip, and it could be End of Nikon.

I think this technique was pioneered by Fraser Darling, who studied the
seals of the Treshnish Islands in the Hebrides before WW2.  I've read a
bit in his autobiography where he describes stalking seals chest-deep in
the sea, changing a lens while still in the water (I suppose the camera
was a Leica or Contax rangefinder), only to realize he'd run out of film.

I believe the first real foul-weather photographs were taken by someone
in the late 19th century who went out in storms with Cornish fishermen,
using a large-format plate camera with no shutter (exposure by taking the
lenscap off).  The result was a rather impressive Turneresque blur.

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From: dp@world.std.com (Jeff DelPapa)
Subject: Re: chromoskedaesik techniques
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:12:19 GMT


There is an article in the most recent issue of view camera magazine
about this printing method. Written by Alan W. Bean, it includes
fairly detailed processing instructions, and example prints.  The
author can be reached at 90 Dexter St, Attleboro, MA 02703.
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From: llamas@itd.itd.nrl.navy.mil (Winston Llamas)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Maxxum 85 f1.4 wanted
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:43:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: itd.DrLLAMAS.92Oct5144300
Reply-To: llamas@itd.nrl.navy.mil
Distribution: usa

I am looking for a used Minolta Maxxum 85 f1.4 AF lens.  If you have a lens you
want to sell, please send me email.  Thanks.

Winston
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: sleepy@athena.mit.edu (Stephen S. Hau)
Subject: EPP vs EPX
Keywords: EPP,EPX,Ektachrome
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:22:56 GMT

Could someone please explain the difference between
Kodak EPP and EPX.  Thanks, Steve.

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From: hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong)
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Leica? [Actually, Nikon]
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 05:55:27 GMT

From article <SCHOOLER.92Oct1174052@turing.apollo.hp.com>, by schooler@apollo.hp.com (Richard Schooler):
>   This reminds me of my pet peeve: how does one pronounce 'Nikon'?  My
> formative camera years were spent in Tokyo, and there I learned to say
> Nee-kon, which is consistent with everything I know about the Japanese
> language, not to mention that Nikon is a contraction of Nippon Kogaku.
> Many westerners seem to think it is Nie-kon, however, which the
> Japanese would tend to romanize as Naikon, I believe.

I think the problem is pronounciation, nothing to do with the word.
Like in Iran, outside US it is pronounced I-Run, while here they are 
pronounced Yee-Ran.  And now I-(gotta)-run.
From: thull@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Scott Thull)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Poloraid back for 35mm SLR?
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:45:50 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

RE: Polaroid Back for 35mm

   A company called NPC makes them for several Nikon models as well as
custom versions for other models/brands.  They are EXPENSIVE by 35mm
terms (~$600-$800) but that is still far cheaper than a medium formant
system.  The custom versions are even more expensive.

   You might try to rent one of these before you buy to make sure it
is worth the cost for your uses.  A previous posting mentioned the
comfort in knowing that the lighting/exposure/camera are all OK.  
In certain circumstances, that is assurance is priceless! 

   Calumet Photo in Chicago has the Nikon versions in their catalog.
Their number is 1-800-CALUMET.

   NPC also makes polaroid backs for medium formant cameras so most mail 
order companies that handle medium formant equipment should be able to 
order the 35mm versions.

Hope this helps.

Scott Thull
thull@fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: acs@csri.toronto.edu (Alvin Chia-Hua Shih)
Subject: Waist-Level finder for EOS?
Summary: Is an angle finder good enough?
Keywords: waist level finder angle finder EOS EF
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:01:08 GMT

I'm interested in getting something like a waist-level finder for my
EOS 630.  I realize that none of the EOS cameras support interchangable
finders, but a local dealer said that one of the angle finders allows
viewing from quite a distance (20cm) which would effectively be waist-
level finder.

From the EOS-1 system chart, I see that there is an "Angle Finder A2",
and an "Angle Finder B".  Can anyone tell me the differences between
these two.  Has anyone successfully used one of these things for
candid photography?  (People shy away when I put the 630 + 100-300USM
up to my eye.  I wonder what kind of response I would get with a
300/2.8L? :-)

Thanks.

ACS
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From: hrvoje@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Hecimovic)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: EOS - weatherproof?
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:20:47 GMT
Distribution: rec.photo
Organization: Edinburgh University
Bcc: hrvoje@castle



Hi, does anybody has any EXPERIENCE using EOS (I have Rebel) in bad
weather - fog, drizzle, shower?

Hrvoje
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: mvolo@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Michael R. Volow)
Subject: Re: Ektar vs. Gold
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:20:20 GMT


Regarding ease of color printing of tungsten-exposed high speed
color negative film, Fuji Professional NHG (ISO 400) was much easier
to color correct than Ektar 1000 (which showed some color co
crossover). 
-- 
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919 286 0411 Ext 6933               mvolo@uncecs.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: donl@glass.esd.sgi.com (donl mathis)
Subject: Re: Can I rinse a slide in water without risk of damage?
Reply-To: donl@glass.esd.sgi.com (donl mathis)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:33:25 GMT


In article <MALU.92Sep25164837@imdpy1.im.se>, malu@imdpy1.im.se (Mats
Luthman) writes:

|> The question now is, can i rinse it in water, without any problems (it
|> is a Velvia slide, if that should matter)?  I tried this with another
|> slide, and it seemed to work without problems, but are there any
|> nonobvious risks with this?

Well, that piece of film was very wet when it first came out of the
processor, so it must not mind water!  If it is in a cardboard mount,
though, the mount might get mushy and the glue might cause trouble.  I
suppose you could take it out of the mount easily enough, and then use
one of those plastic mounts when you're finished.  And perhaps you
should use distilled water with a little wetting agent (Photo Flo),
rather than tap water.  And let it dry without getting dust on it.

- donl mathis at Silicon Graphics Computer Systems, Mountain View, CA
donl@sgi.com
From: nichols@osric.cs.odu.edu (teresa nichols)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: AGFA, Fuji, Kodak or ?
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:44:54 GMT
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA


Dumb question, but are the AGFA films E-6 process?

Teresa
From: feltman@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Robert Feltman)
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 17:30:47 GMT
Subject: Re: when do the Aspen turn in the Sierra?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.photo

The canyons north and south of Lee Vining are probably at there peak
this week based on my observations of last week. Just about any canyon
from bridgeport to Bishop has a paved road and plenty of Aspens.

Bob 
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: chris@fnbc.com (Chris Toczycki)
Subject: Re: Freezing Film
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 13:30:16 GMT

In article <jrl1.718250140@Ra.MsState.Edu> jrl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Robby La Farge)  
writes:
> I ran across a deal where a store my friend owned was going out of business 
> and he had about 50 rolls of the new kodack gold plus film, I got the film
> from at a steal but I need to know if it can be put in the freezer or if I  
need
> to clear off a shelf in the fridge and store it there, and if it has to go in
> the fridge what is a good line to tell my wife about why a 50 rolls in there?

Freezing is OK and supposedly preserves the film indefinitely.  However, the  
film must be in its original (air-tight) container.  Film is packaged with  
very-low moisture content air in its air-tight canister.  Keep it closed until  
you actually use it.

At Nikon School they told us to keep film in its original box and put it into a  
ziplock bag before freezing.  Frozen film should be allowed to thaw 6 hours  
before opening its air-tight canister, and should not be re-frozen or  
re-refrigerated.

Refrigeration is OK too and supposedly doubles film life. Warmup can be reduced  
to 3 hours.

As to what to tell your wife, find an out-of-the-way and less-convenient  
freezer location to store the film (behind the ice maker) and she shouldn't  
mind.
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: news@walter.bellcore.com
Subject: Re: Specs on Canon EF 24mm ?
Reply-To: jchen@wind.UUCP (Jason Chen)
Organization: Bellcore, Morristown, NJ
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 16:14:31 GMT

Specifications:
   Construction: 10 groups/10 elements
   Closest Focusing Distance: 0.25 m
   Magnification: 0.155
   Dimensions: 28.5x67.5 mm
   Weight: 270 g (9 7/16 oz)
   filter size: 58 mm 

C. Jason Chen 
jchen@flash.bellcore.com
From: ark@alice.att.com (Andrew Koenig)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Lens Focusing (was Re: lens tests..)
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:45:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23768
Reply-To: ark@alice.UUCP ()
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ

In article <1992Sep30.151813.5754@qiclab.scn.rain.com> al@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Alan Peterman) writes:

> Well there's Leica rangefinders....The bottom comes off, but access
> to the film plane is pretty poor.  

On the M6, at least, there's a little door that folds down after you've
taken the bottom off so you can get at the shutter.
-- 
				--Andrew Koenig
				  ark@europa.att.com
From: ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Sigma MF zoom lens recommendations?
Date: 2 Oct 1992 00:00:07 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: almaak.usc.edu

I'm planning to get a 35-70 or 28-80 or so for a Canon t70.
What are the good lenses?  

Thanks,

        -ans.
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: dbailey@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (David R. Bailey)
Subject: Re: Lens Focusing (was Re: lens tests..)
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley, CA, U.S.A.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:28:07 GMT

David Jacobson writes:
 > There are
 > some second order effects like coasting, backlash and "gain", that
 > might have a small effect on where it actually comes to rest.  But
 > none of these apply in focus-confirmation mode.
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Good point, I hadn't thought of that.
    
 > Comparisons between cameras are not useful.  Suppose the
 > mount-to-film-plane was .1 mm different between the two cameras, but
 > otherwise they were perfect.  Then if you took a lens off one and put
 > it on the other camera, you would see things a tad out of focus, but
 > it doesn't matter.
 > 
 > What what you care about are that
 > 	the film plane
 > 	the focusing screen and
 > 	the AF sensor are all optically in the same plane.  
 >
 > Your test 2, first part, shows that the focusing screen and
 > AF sensor are not in the same plane.  I wonder which one, if either,
 > lines up with the film plane?

Agreed, but ...

My experiments (plus good results on film with the 650) showed that
the various lens-mount-to-X distances fit into the following two
"equivalence groups":

     650 AF plane               |    10s viewfinder plane
     650 viewfinder plane       |
     650 film plane             |
     10s AF plane               |

But, as you point out, this still says nothing about the only item of
interest, the 10s film plane -- it could still be anywhere!  However,
the _simplest_, and hence most likely, solution seems to be that the 10s
viewfinder is out-of-whack, and the 10s film plane belongs on the
left-hand-side above.  The other possibilities are:

1: unlikely co-incidence:  
     The two cameras' lens-to-film distances indeed differ but the 10s
     AF plane just happens to be in error by a compensating amount;
     in this case, it is my viewfinder that I should trust.
2: two simultaneous problems: 
     The 10s film plane is located in some totally random position,
     rendering both the viewfinder and the AF incorrect.

What I _should_ do is a careful test as suggested by Michael R. Volow
in another response to my post!

Thanks,

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From: feldman@hal9k.cxo.dec.com (james feldman)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Press Camera Questions...........................
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:35:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd2.1992Oct5.183504.27844
Reply-To: feldman@hal9k.cxo.dec.com (james feldman)
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Oct4.165916.6344@das.harvard.edu>, johnc@endor.harvard.edu (John Chervinsky) writes:
|>At a rummage sale recently, someone was selling a Speed Graphics 4x5
|>camera.  Although I did not buy it (slow speeds were off, lens didn't
|>look good ect..), it did pique my interest. I have a few questions:
|>
|>In the 4x5 format, are there any models of these cameras that are
|>considered to be superior?
I'm aware of 3 "main" lines they made in that format, the speed, crown and
super.  Don't know much about the crown series.  I have a super.  The super
seems to have more movements than the speed.  The speed on the other hand is
capable of a 1/1000 second FP shutter (provided is works) or you can use the
lens' leaf shutter.

|>Do any models allow lens tilt about the horizontal axis?
I though the speed had some tilt.  The super tilts in both directions and has a
drop bed (although only one position).

|>What lens/shutter system is considered to be good?
Since they were usually used for press work, they often came with a 127mm or
135mm lens. Typical were the Optar and Raptar's, mostly uncoated and with
limited coverage.  I lucked out and got one of the Optar's that was coated. 
As far as shutters are concerned, there are three things you need to be careful
of.  Older shutters will often be off in the faster speeds, the speeds may not
match the speeds shown on you meter (200 vs 250, 100 vs 125) which is not a big
problem, and the flash contacts may be Bi pole rather than pc.  None of these
make the shutter/lens unusable, but you need to know the limitations imposed.

|>Do any of these cameras have coupled rangefinders other than the ground
|>glass?
Many of the Speeds were fitted with Kalart cam-coupled rangefinders.  The Super
has a built in one.  Both required special cams to match the lens being used.

|>As silly as it may sound, my goal is to use such a camera for street
|>photography and environmental portraits.  Is this camera too cumbersome?
Well, press photographers used these for just that purpose for about 30 years,
but NO ONE will ever confuse them with an 8008 as far as ease of handling.  You
will hardly be unobtrusive.

|>How much should I pay for one of these babies?  Other than the obvious
|>what should I watch out for?
Check shutterbug, particularly Columbus Camera Group's and Stephan Shuart AKA
Large Format Specialists.

jimf
From: sheng@skink.cis.ohio-state.edu (Ming-Jye Sheng)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: mailorder experience needed
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:33:44 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science

I've never buy things by mail, it will be highly appreciated if any of you
can share your mailorder experiece(good or bad) with me.
I heard that Camera World of Oregon was a top rated mailorder dealer, but I
got snapped at when I asked the same question twice. I was going to order 
some pentax accessories from them, but I changed my mind after that phone call.
Can you make any suggestion as to which mail order company I should buy 
my camera equipments from? 
Thankx in advance.

Mingjye Sheng
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: bower@hfsi.uucp (Michael Bower Comm. )
Subject: Pentax Auto 110 info wanted
Reply-To: bower@hfsi.UUCP (Michael Bower Comm. )
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:12:48 GMT

Rec.photo netters:

I have a chance to get a Pentax Auto 110 system here in my area.  This is
a 110 camera that is basically a miniature SLR with several lenses.

Can anybody shed any light on this setup.  Is it a good camera? bad
camera? whatever?  I know the limitations of 110 film but aside from
that, it looks like a nice camera for keeping in ones pocket.  (It 
is bulkier than the MINOX camera but the film is slightly larger
and easier (and cheaper) to get.

Any thoughts will be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Michael Bower
bower@hfsi.com

Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: alix@indetech.com (Alexandria North)
Subject: Re: Popluar Photography (was does Popular Photography really pro
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:22:04 GMT

In article <29SEP92.10575268.0036@vmxa.polymtl.ca> DH02000 <DH02@polytec1.polymtl.ca> writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.230718.29537@indetech.com> alix@indetech.com (Alexandria North) writes:
>>By the way, I was wondering if anyone on the net has ever received their
>>free Nikon magazine sample issue for sending in their warranty/reg cards
>>and filling out the questionnaire. I did this for my Nikon 8008s back in
>>April, but I've never seen a Nikon magazine...
>
>Good question!  That reminds me, I'd sent in my warranty card in June
>and am yet to see the Nikon magazine :-<  I did receive a catalog
>from Nikon offering to sell video cassettes on how to use the equipment
>tho' !!!
>
>-Tamal Ghosh
>

I called Nikon, and Bob told me that the Nikon magazine is on backorder 
(??) and they will send out issues when more issues come in.

He didn't take my name and address, so I guess they've had inquiries 
before, and just want people to wait.

Alix
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