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From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: BEST BAY AREA BAR_B_QUE
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:27:24 GMT
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Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
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In article <67056@cup.portal.com> gore@cup.portal.com (M - Gore) writes:
>This is the best bar b que Ive had since I left texas 10 years ago.
>CENTRAL TEXAS BAR B QUE is fantastic. Saw dust on the floor,real texans
>from central Texas. In the heart of Castroville. Really SMOKED not boiled.
>If you like Bar B Que. You'll love this place

All true.  However, what they *don't* tell you is that the place is 
very small.  You may have to wait a bit for a table or take it out, 

BUT IT WILL BE WORTH IT.

Regards, Lee
From: c60b-1gs@e260-1a.berkeley.edu (Allen Tom)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Chinese restaurant in SF Chinatown
Date: 29 Sep 92 08:03:31 GMT
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Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <BvBID4.I9w@beach.csulb.edu> jchen@beach.csulb.edu (James Chen) writes:
>
>I have been in San Francisco Chinatown several times, but I didn't have any
>success finding a good Chinese restaurant there.  Does anyone know a good
>"authentic" Chinese restaurant in SF Chinatown?

Try Hing Lung on Broadway. Rude service, but a great bowl of jook!
They're open till about 1am (and pretty full too)

Of course, it's really cheap!

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From: arch@gandalf.pei.com (Arch Mott)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Review: Tied House
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:38:59 GMT
Organization: Protocol Engines Incorporated

zstern@adobe.com (Zalman Stern) writes:

>I've had good meals at Tied House and I've had truly lousy meals there.  
(Hi Zalman!)

I'd just like to say that there's also a fair amount of variation, quality-wise,
between the Mountain View and San Jose locations, both food wise and beer wise. I
have only been to the SJ location once, but the food there was, IMHO superior, as
were the service and the beer. Of course I might be a little biased about the beer
since my friend Chris is the brewer in San Jose.

I have to agree with a previous poster's remarks about the fish and chips: they get
pretty darn greasy. But the beer at both locations is usually pretty drinkable.

Cheers.
-- 
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Protocol Engines, Inc     |Voice:(415)335-0150 | author's opinion that 
301 E. Evelyn Ave, Suite A| FAX:(415)969-6966  | said user will get what
Mountain View, CA 94041   |                    | he deserves."  -tcsh man page
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Friday, 2 Oct 1992 10:12:30 PST
From: Ruth McDunn <ISIS@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Are there foods which are high in cholesterol and low in fat?
Distribution: ba

There are several foods:

Eggs, 213 mg Chol, 5 g fat, 2 g sat fat
Caviar (1 oz), 167 mg Chol, 5 g fat, 0 g sat fat
Brains (1 oz), 582 mg Chol, 4 g fat, trace sat fat
Chicken liver (1 oz), 179 mg Chol, 2 g fat, trace sat fat

Relatively speaking, shell fish are low in chol and fat.  The highest
is Squid (3 oz) with 221 mg Chol, 6 g fat, 2 g sat fat.  Cooked
shrimp (1 oz) has 55 mg Chol, and trace amounts of fat and sat fat.

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Stanford Linear Accelerator Center              another's engineering.
MS 84, P.O. Box 4349, Stanford, CA 94309        -- adapted from the
415/926-3054  isis@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu     memoirs of Lazarus Long
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: East Bay Hotels
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:21:08 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

George Wu <gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com> writes:

	I've stayed at the Shattuck for weeks.  Apparently, they've a
	wide range of rooms, and the experience varies according to
	which room you get.  My room was quite small.

Nope; I had a number of suites for nearly a month.  They all are bad :-)

/jordan
From: c60b-2hz@web-3e.berkeley.edu (Nathaniel Meyers)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Afternoon Tea in the East Bay Area
Date: 1 Oct 1992 20:41:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-3e.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep30.155129.22933@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>Hey, don't knock South Dakota; at least there's a place *there* to get
>afternoon tea:  Elizabeth's (if memory serves) in Rapid City.  Nice
>English lady, real clotted cream, say "hi" for me.

Maybe you and I should start the Bay Area Residents' South Dakota fan club.
Should be a fairly small club considering what snobs we Californians are
trained to be.  Or is South Dakota considered retro-chic?  I am definately
going through SD again and when I do I will look this place up.  (You can't
get clotted cream even in San Francisco, can you?  Of course, the Emperess
Hotel in Victoria is THE place to get tea in North America).
-Nathaniel
(Did you see Lynda Barry's cartoon about South Dakota a month or so ago?)
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From: kendall@sceng.ub.com (Greg Kendall)
Subject: Re: Central Texas BBQ, Castroville
Organization: Ungermann Bass
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:31:27 GMT

In article <137967@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> llittle@tis.llnl.gov (Larry Little) writes:

>sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:

... a lot of text deleted ...

I would say if you're going by, it's worth stopping in and trying.  I found
C.T.BBQ ok, but not great.  Not worth a 1 1/2 hour drive from my home.
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: zstern@adobe.com (Zalman Stern)
Subject: Re: Review: Tied House
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:33:51 GMT

I've had good meals at Tied House and I've had truly lousy meals there.  
Pehaps tending a little bit towards the good side of the scale. The fish and  
chips are usually pretty good, but once I had them and they must have been  
sitting around for half an hour and they sucked. For vegetarians, they  
usually have one veggie pasta entree and you can get a plain quesadilla.  
They make a pretty good Caesar salad as well. We usually go for a late  
Sunday brunch (i.e. 1:00 or later) and sit on the patio. Prices are moderate  
for lunch. Beer is decent. Not worth going very often, but it hits the spot  
sometimes.
--
Zalman Stern		   zalman@adobe.com		    (415) 962 3824
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
  "Yeah. Ask 'em if they'll upgrade my shifters too." Bill Watterson
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From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Afternoon Tea in the East Bay Area
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:51:29 GMT

In article <5199@bacon.IMSI.COM> jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes) writes:
>
>I think the Claremont would be considered a "good hotel" if it were
>located in South Dakota. 

Hey, don't knock South Dakota; at least there's a place *there* to get
afternoon tea:  Elizabeth's (if memory serves) in Rapid City.  Nice
English lady, real clotted cream, say "hi" for me.

Charleen
--
I have a great diet.  You're allowed to eat anything you want, but you must
eat it with naked fat people.
                    -- Ed Bluestone
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: HF.JGW@forsythe.stanford.edu (Weitz, Janet)
Subject: Re: Seeking Cheeseboard Look-alike
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:23:05 GMT

In article <92280.54488.J105270@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM>,
J105270@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>I used to get up to this place on Shattuck and would buy the french bread
>with melted and hardened cheese. I don't get to Berkeley much anymore. If
>anyone knows the item I am talking about and who would have something as
>close as possible to these excellent jaw exercisers and can tell me the
>location, I would appreciate it. Santa Clara...SJ...Su...MV...LA, etc.
>
Draegers in Menlo Park has a cheese bread that resembles the
Cheeseboard in looks - haven't tried it.  Oakville Grocery in the
Stanford Mall has a wonderful selection of really good quality
breads - maybe even a cheese bread.
>
Janet Weitz
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: Afternoon Tea in the East Bay Area
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:01:45 GMT


In article <1ai935INNlcb@agate.berkeley.edu>, spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
> >>> Nice English lady, real clotted cream, say "hi" for me.
> 
> >A local farmer makes it for her, using the same method that Devonshire
> >farms do ... 
> 
> Anywhere to buy clotted cream in the Bay Area?

     This question went around a few months back.  The conclusion at
that time was no.  It doesn't sound difficult to do one's self, although
I bet you need the real thing, a farmer's unpasturized, unhomogenized,
un-cream-robbed milk, rather than the stuff which commonly sells as
whole milk here in the US.

							George

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Teknekron Communications Systems, Inc. | (510) 649-3700
2121 Allston Way, Berkeley, CA, 94704  | Never be the first to believe . . .
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From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Subject: Re: BEST BAY AREA BAR_B_QUE
Organization: Netcom
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:09:47 GMT

sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund) writes:
>
>After the touting I've been doing about Don's cooking around here and
>people saying "I'll have to try it sometime..." - I'm glad to hear
>someone else loves his food...


I hate to be a naysayer, but I have to throw in my $.02 and say that
I was not at all impressed with Central Texan BBQ.  The ribs that I
had were dry, tough and chewy.  The hickory-oak smoke flavor was nice,
but it didn't seem like anything to rave about.




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: nitza@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nitza Berkovitch)
Subject: polish food
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 22:16:10 GMT


Does anybody know of a good Polish restaurant in the City?
Russian will do too but I really prefer the 'original' (for me).

thanks,

Nitza@leland.stanford.edu
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Afternoon Tea in the East Bay Area
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:38:47 GMT
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <1992Oct2.170448.3225@tcsi.com> gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.155129.22933@ads.com>, charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>> 
>> Hey, don't knock South Dakota; at least there's a place *there* to get
>> afternoon tea:  Elizabeth's (if memory serves) in Rapid City.  Nice
>> English lady, real clotted cream, say "hi" for me.
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>     Where does she get the clotted cream!?!?!?  Yes, I know, it's
>unlikely to help me if her source is in South Dakota, but if she
>makes her own, then maybe . . .

A local farmer makes it for her, using the same method that Devonshire
farms do (which is roughly, take fresh raw milk and let it sit on the
back of the stove for a day or so...that which "clots" at the top is
skimmed.)

She doesn't get a lot of it, and she doesn't do mail order.

Charleen

--
Did you hear that Roseanne Barr tried to sing the National Anthem again?
She quit when the Navy fired six warning shots across her bow.
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From: HF.CAR@forsythe.stanford.edu (CHRISTIAN ROWCLIFFE)
Subject: Re: Afternoon Tea in the East Bay Area
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:13:30 GMT

I have seen clotted cream at the British Market in Los Altos, and
also at the Cheese House in Palo Alto Town & Country.  Another place
to try is the Mayfair, a little shop attatched to the side of the
British Bankers Club on ECR in Menlo Park.

A good place for British food is the Garden Grill, also in Menlo
Park.

While I am rambling on, I did go to Fanny and Alexander's in
downtown PA last night.  Third time in about as many weeks.  I like
it.  I went with 3 other Scandinavians one of whom knew 1 of the
owners.  Didn't realize this till we got there though.  The approach
is not the typical classical Swedish style food (heavy cream sauces,
meat and potatos), but updated.  Not neccesarily bad, but not the
same as the old Swedish Place in HMB.  I had venison, and it was
very good.  On weekends, they bring in bands after 10:15 pm.  Sat.
night was Jerry and the Jets, one of my favourites.  Oh yes, the
chef was trained at the Culinary Academy in SF, and learned the
fine points from a Swedish chef flown in for that purpose.  Try
them.

Christian
From: sam@esl.com (Samuel Hahn)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Thai
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:30:39 GMT
Reply-To: Samuel Hahn <sam@esl.com>
Distribution: ba

For Thai food (though I'm no expert), try Siam Garden in Menlo Park, just off  
Santa Cruz, or Bangkok Cuisine, in Westgate, behind Music Plus.  These have  
become my two favorites, and I've tried most of the ones cited lately.   
Anybody else rave about Keo's "Evil Jungle Prince"? Too bad Keo's is in  
Hawaii (ie not here)! -- Sam
From: jon@Apple.COM (Jon Singer)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Dobyn-mushi! (Partly out-of-area)
Keywords: Matsutake mushrooms; soup; Nikko; Seattle
Date: 29 Sep 92 08:33:56 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

From the "Michael Berch, eat your heart out" archives:

It is now Autumn in the Great Specific Northwet. In Autumn the rains
come, purging the air of its dust and grime, washing it clean, and
bringing with them a feverish burst of life before winter comes with
its white blankets to play sandman to the woods and fields.

Part of the feverish burst of life is visible in the Seattle Rose
Garden, where `Etoile de Hollande' is almost unbearably fragrant, but
that's for a different list or another time.

Another, more relevant part of the burst is the advent of fruiting
bodies of many of the 12,000 species of mushrooms that grow in these
parts. In particular, I refer to the humble pine mushroom, Matsutake
if you want it in Japanese.

This meaty li'l object (which you people can buy at the Berkeley Bowl
for maybe $25 a pound) is the heart and soul of one of the finest
items that Japanese cuisine has to offer: a soup called Dobyn-mushi.

Nikko, the finest sushi-bar I've ever eaten at, offers Dobyn-mushi for
a few weeks every year, usually in late October.

They serve it in a tiny thing that looks like a teapot, with a tiny
cup for a lid. You squeeze lime-juice into the 'teapot' and then pour
out small portions of the broth into the little cup, eating the
mushroom slices and other things out of the pot itself with your
chopsticks. The mushroom is sliced thin, as it has a strong pine flavor
and would otherwise be a bit too much.

I have had this elixir on only about 3 occasions: once in 1987,
once in 1989, and once last fall, shortly after we moved up here. A
month or so back, some friends called and reported that they had been
served it that very evening (impossibly early in the season...) I went
to Nikko a few days later, but no mushrooms were to be had: it had
only rained a little. I have been there several times since; no
matsutake, no Dobyn-mushi.

This last time, we were served a lobster soup with enokidake and tofu
that my companion, a friendly fellow from the DC area, said was the
best soup he had ever had in a Japanese restaurant. It _was_ superb,
by gum -- almost as good as Dobyn-mushi!

It was clear that something had to happen. I Have Waited Too Long. I
danced the Bazilian Rain-Dance, a secret known only to my distant
forebears, and forgotten many thousands of years ago. (Don't ask me
how, since I don't know it any more than you do.)

It has, I am pleased to report, been raining up here. Wednesday is my
birthday, and my sweetie and I are going to go to Nikko...

Eat your heart out, Berch!
:-)
jon singer
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Review: Tied House
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:10:30

"JMH" == JMH  <JMH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:

JMH> fair.  Overall? Not on my list of places to return to.

0.  I couldn't find any vegetarian food on their lunch menu.
1.  I had fish 'n chips out of starvation-induced desperation.
    The chips were cold, and the fish was so soaked with grease that I
got a bunch of extra napkins, wiped off the batter, and pressed the
fish until they became dry enough to be considered edible.
2.  I liked their stout.
--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
                              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
From: spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Don't Patronize Triple Rock BrewPub, Berkeley, Calif
Date: 29 Sep 1992 21:45:22 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley -- ERL
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: zabriskie.berkeley.edu

In article <BvCrwG.F07@taligent.com> cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus) writes:

>As I private pilot, I hate to make recommendations like this, but I
>would contact the Federal Aviation Administration, Flight Standards
>District Office (FSDO) in Oakland, CA (where I believe the plane is
>based), and lodge a complaint.

Good idea.

And while we're at it, why not lodge a complaint with the 
state ABC against Triple Rock itself for repeatedly
staging a public nuisance?

I'll answer my own question: although their beer is crummy,
Triple Rock serves the singularly useful purpose of attracting 
as customers a particularly undesirable breed of preppie, 
and by containing said individuals within the Triple Rock
premises, they are not otherwise imposed upon the residents
of Berkeley.  So it's best they stay open.

Steve
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From: wickberg@mv.us.adobe.com (Andreas Wickberg)
Subject: Re: Fanny and Alexanders, Palo Alto
Followup-To: ba.food
Organization: Adobe Systems
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 02:45:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.022629.14598@tcsi.com>, gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George
Wu) wrote:
> I believe the whole plate is to be mixed together to form a conglomeration
> of flavors.  I don't know what a real Swede would think, ...
As a real Swede I would give their BR a 6.5 on a scale 0-10.  Still, it is
quite enjoyable.
I usually pour the egg on top of the beef, and put the mustard on the side.
The potato should be
fried only (usually you fry boiled potato) with just a little butter and
herbs. I would probably
remove the beets, they don't belong on a real Rydberg.  Their menu is a
mixture of different countries,
typical Swedish things would be herring dishes and pytt-i-panna (you can
use the beets with this.)
I think it is a nice place, but perhaps I just miss home.


Andreas
From: leighann@fugazi.sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Chinese restaurant in SF Chinatown
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:48:53 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc., Emeryville, CA

In article <1a9udgINNabv@male.EBay.Sun.COM>, janew@woobaby.EBay.Sun.COM (Jane Woo) writes:
|> PS- A good indication of good Chinese food is to check out
|>     the patrons.... if most are Chinese... it must be pretty
|>     decent!!!

Reminds me of a scene in a movie I once saw... Chinese family brand new
immigrants walking down a street in Anywhere, USA.  Sees McDonald's;
family patriarch says, "Hm, lots of Americans eating there.  Must be
good American food..."

	- Leigh Ann

---------------
Leigh Ann Hussey                                      leighann@sybase.com
"Turkeys, heresy, hops and beer / All came to England in the one year."
What year was it?
Answer: 1520
From: stan@ntg.com (Stan Shepard)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Review: Tied House
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:12:59 GMT
Organization: New Technologies Group, Inc.  Palo Alto CA

In article <JET.92Oct1171030@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>0.  I couldn't find any vegetarian food on their lunch menu.

	What do you think beer is? :-)


    Is the food at all the Tied Houses the same?  I've just been to the
one in Alameda, and found their food quite acceptable.  Also MUCH less
crowded than what I see passing by Mtn View.

						Stan
-- 
						Stan
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Sawadee closed? Peace Restaurant closed?
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:24:29 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: diver.asd.sgi.com

Re: Sawadee closed.

Bummer.  There are a couple of Thai places on Saratoga just south of 
Stevens Creek, but I get confused about which one(s) is/are good.  Can
anybody help with that?

Regards, Lee
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)
Subject: Re: Sawadee closed? Peace Restaurant closed?
Organization: Taligent, a little subsidiary of two really big companies.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:04:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.004803.7458@indetech.com> lzs@indetech.com () writes:
>	Sawadee Thai restaurant - Sunnyvale

I was there a while back, and the waitress mentioned that they would be
closing soon, since the owner had accumulated all the money he came to
the US to make, and would be returning to Thailand.
--
-- Christophe

"Black is the color of non-conformity.  Everyone has to have it."
	T-shirt company executive
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