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From: rick@vsystem.wimsey.bc.ca (Rick Vandenberg)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: Method of payment for contract jobs.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:11:00 PST
Organization: Vandenberg Systems Research, Vancouver BC

symfourn@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Sharon M. Fournier) writes:

> The main question I have right now is this.  How should I arrange payment?
> Should I agree to receiving just one cheque for the entire amount of the 
> contract when the work is complete since this is just a three week contract? 
> Or should I ask for half of the payment at the beginning, and the balance 
> when the job is finished?  Otherwise, I could ask for weekly installments.
> I don't know which option is standard for contractors these days.

I think this depends on a few things - how reliable is the company, how
fast does it process invoices, how much in need of the money you are.
It may be a good idea to ask for 1/3 or 1/2 up front ( as a deposit, or
retainer).  Tough question, and it depends on the client.

An inexpensive series of books on starting a business, consulting, and a
whole raft of other topics is put out by Self-Counsel Press.  Have a
look for them.

> I know what the acceptable rate is (the $salary/1000 rule, and the double you
> usual hourly rate rule).  But does this rate cover expenses such as long-   
> distance phone calls?  I assume the calls will cost a minimal amount, so I
> am not really too worried about it, but I was just wondering what is recom-
> mended.

The 2 * salary rule is _really_ general, as was pointed out to me in an
email message today.  It was a timely reality check.

When I'm consulting (part-time), it's on a time & expense basis.  Long
distance phone calls, parking, etc are billed at cost to the client.  At
my day job, direct expenses like parking are billed at cost, but the 5%
is added to the time charges to cover telephone and office expenses.  I
think the latter is pretty tough to get away with in a small consulting
firm.

Rick

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From: jstewart@nebula.lrmsc.loral.com (Jim Stewart 5608)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: VHDL From Viewlogic To Synopsys Retaining Bus Notation
Summary: Viewlogic To Synopsys Retaining Bus Notation
Keywords: VHDL, Viewlogic, Synopsys
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:13:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers

>

I am looking for a consultant to translate Viewlogic schematics
to VHDL preserving buses.  I hope someone on the net has
Viewlogic(tm) Export 1076 and can run this program on the
Viewlogic(tm) schematics to preserve buses.

I am running on a Sun and EDIF flattens all the 
buses to individual nets when using Viewlogic EDIF netlister.
--  jstewart@monolith.lrmsc.loral.com
From: steve@hsvaic.boeing.com (Steve Tanner)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: What to charge for travel time
Keywords: Travel
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:11:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boeing AI Center, Huntsville, AL


I'd like to know how people charge for travel time during out-of-town
overnight and longer trips.  I'm sure this has been dealt with before,
but I'm not a steady reader.  Please e-mail me any responses and
ideas.

Thanks

Steve Tanner
steve@hsvaic.boeing.com
From: lloyd-ritter@cup.portal.com (Lloyd-Ritter and Associates)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: PROGRESS Fin.,Unix, S. Bay, Rcrtr
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:27:53 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba

Location:  S. Bay                  Rate:  Flex.
Start Date:  12/14                 Duration:  3-6 mos (poss.
Skills:  Express Financials, Unix             conversion to
         Focus or Progress, CASE              reg. f/t employee
Responsibilities:  Implement a large-scale project working closely
                   with P/L and mgmt for "mission-critical"
                   application.
Please call Rene Campbell at (415) 964-6644, fax (415) 964-8719
NO E-MAIL PLEASE!
From: merkur@modul.bioch.nsk.su (Igor Merkuryev)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Consulting in Russia
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 18:55:31 +0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Institute of Bioorganic Chemistry SD AS USSR
Reply-To: merkur@modul.bioch.nsk.su

                             Gentlemen!
      Group of  programmers based on PC-286 looking for consulting in
    the USA.We   living  in  Akademgorodok(near  Novosibirsk),science
    center of   Siberia  and  able  in  resolution  different science
    problems.We would like to ask anybody to give us  free  order  at
    first,so we mean we can't present resumes acceptable for american
    employers.We hope that employer to whom we'll send  our  versions
    will be   interest  to  select  people.Please,contact  with  Igor
    Merkuryev:

    merkur@modul.bioch.nsk.su
                                        Sincerely,Igor.

Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: 0005667468@mcimail.com (MCL Systems Ltd.)
Subject: VMS, SmartStar. loc. Maryland
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:30:00 GMT

MCL Systems is a growing consulting firm based at McLean, 
VA. Currently we are looking for consultants for a project in 
Maryland having experience in  
 
VAX/VMS, SmartStar and preferably Rdb. 
 
Please send your resumes to 
 
MCL Systems Limited 
2010 Corporate Ridge Rd 
McLean, VA 22102 
Fax :- (703) 749-1482	e-mail :- mclsys@mcimail.com
From: rsk@aspen.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: DB2/CICS programmers, entry-level or other, Philadelphia, PA area
Keywords: CICS, DB2, Cobol, SQL
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:19:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GSP

[ My apologies for the "usa" distribution, but there's no way to specify
pa + nj + de + md + ny.  PLEASE NOTE: DO NOT REPLY TO ME.  I am posting
this as a favor to someone without network access (yet).  If you wish
to enquire further, you must reply as indicated below.  ---Rsk ]

Several positions are available for entry-level or junior programmers
with knowledge of DB2, CICS, or Cobol.  Knowledge of SQL would be a plus,
as would knowledge of PC development environments, particularly
KnowledgeWare.   U.S. Citizenship is required.  This project is
anticipated to last approximately 9 months.

Contact: Len Goldfield, at 215-885-5212 voice, or 215-885-1109 fax.
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jbocts@teal.csn.org (John Becker)
Subject: Software Engineer
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:31:06 GMT


Software Engineer

To develop 'C' or 'C++'
software for IC testing
BSEE or BSCS with strong IC knowledge.
ASIC devices (CMOS)
6 to 9 month contract
UNIX required
(make,awk) in UNIX
Good understanding of digital logic.
Location: FT. Collins Colorado

ON CALL TECHNICAL SERVICES
BOX 2125 Loveland, CO 80539
Tel: (303) 667-6222
FAX: (303) 667-8966
Jon or Steve

FAX, TELEPHONE< or US POSTAL contact only
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract,misc.jobs.offered
From: phil@aisg.uucp (Phil Heidrich)
Subject: Subject: Unix SE North FL contract (Recruiter)
Organization: General Electric SCSD, Daytona Beach FL
Originator: root@ge-dab.GE.COM
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL3]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:40:47 -0500


Newsgroup:  misc.jobs.contract, misc.jobs.offered
Subject: Unix SE North FL contract (Recruiter)
reply: aisg!phil@ge-dab.ge.com
organization:  Advanced Information Systems Group, Inc.

We are currently looking for the following positions to be filled ASAP

Week of December 21, 1992

Network Applications developer- Must be proficient in Unix/ C fundamentals
Preferably some CASE tools and IDE's software through pictures experience
Additional pluses include, exposure to Oracle 6.0 or other RDBMS, X-Windows
and IBM Mainframe IPC.  Job Duration is a three month contract with
right-to-hire.  Job location is Jacksonville, FL.

        aisg!phil@ge-dab.ge.com

 Philip Heidrich
 Advanced Information Systems Group
 P.O. Box 10791
 Daytona Beach, Florida 32120

 FAX:  904.255.0187
 phone: 904.255.2598


Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jstewart@nebula.lrmsc.loral.com (Jim Stewart 5608)
Subject: VHDL From Viewlogic To Synopsys Retaining Bus Notation
Summary: Need a Contractor who has "turnkey" capability to translate
Originator: jstewart@nebula
Keywords: VHDL, Viewlogic, Synopsys 
Organization: Loral Rolm Mil-Spec Computers
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:04:37 GMT


Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: paul@tct.com (Paul Levin)
Subject: Re: Per hour payment for engineering development contracts
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:49:54 GMT
Keywords: Payment, contract, engineering

According to fourie@odie.ee.wits.ac.za (Andre Fourie):
>Engineering development/consulting work in South Africa are normally 
>calculated based on a $50-70 per hour (B. Sc. engineering with 3 years + 
>experience). I am quite interested in the rates applicable in other 
>countries. If people can break it down in terms of experience/qualification 
>it would be quite interesting. If this informal survey attracts enough 
>response I shall post a summary in this group at a later stage. 

Those rate sound great !!  Are those USA dollars ?  In the New York area,
I have seen rates from $25/hr for testers and system administrators, to
high $30's/hr and low $40's/hr for electrical design engineers and 
experienced programmers (software engineers).  In Florida the upper end
is more like high $20's/hr and maybe low $30's, depending upon the location in
Florida.
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From: sfi@public.BTR.COM (Stefan Fielding-Isaacs  sfi@btr.com)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Re: Method of payment for contract jobs.
Date: 15 Dec 92 07:33:19 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

In article <Bz95vG.2sM@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> symfourn@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Sharon M. Fournier) writes:
>
>The main question I have right now is this.  How should I arrange payment?
>Should I agree to receiving just one cheque for the entire amount of the 
>contract when the work is complete since this is just a three week contract?  
>Or should I ask for half of the payment at the beginning, and the balance 
>when the job is finished?  Otherwise, I could ask for weekly installments.
>I don't know which option is standard for contractors these days.

 Well, in this lies a lesson for the future. Always arrange terms of payment
 in advance to the contract signing. Now you're pretty much stuck. Your
 client can do whatever is usual and customary (up to and including paying
 you up to 90 days after the delivery of your invoice). 

  NB: Canadian law may offer some protection if you have rendered personal
      services under some special proviso. I don't know, but if it becomes
      an issue you can investigate it.

 I would tender a bill to the client at the end of the contract period with
 a net 10 days. Hope they pay. Pray they pay if you put in a lot of hours.
 Keep a meticulous record of _all_ time and expenses on the project. Since
 you don't know how they will react, or even whether they will pay, you
 better be prepared for the worst.

 best of luck, 
 Stefan
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton)
Subject: Re: Method of payment for contract jobs.
Organization: Kenton Systems Corporation, Weston MA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:47:35 GMT

symfourn@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Sharon M. Fournier) writes:

>The main question I have right now is this.  How should I arrange payment?
>Should I agree to receiving just one cheque for the entire amount of the 
>contract when the work is complete since this is just a three week contract?  

For a short contract you can certainly wait and just bill them once.  If
you have agreed to work by the hour you don't have much flexibility.  You
have to bill as work progresses (or at the end).  Otherwise, getting part
of it up front (even 20%) has some advantages.  First, you have some money.
Second, you know they are serious, especially if it's your first project for
a new client.  Third, and sometimes most important, they pay more attention
to you if you have some of their money.  You will probably need some of their
time and resources -- documentation, machine time, clarifications.  If they
have spent something already they will be more inclined to protect their
initial investment.  It's a normal way to do business.

>I know what the acceptable rate is (the $salary/1000 rule, and the double your
>usual hourly rate rule).  But does this rate cover expenses such as long-   
>distance phone calls?  I assume the calls will cost a minimal amount, so I
>am not really too worried about it, but I was just wondering what is recom-
>mended.

Your rate should cover normal expenses.  Clients don't want to feel like they
are being nickeled and dimed.  Better to have a higher rate and swallow the
small change than to give the client's accountant something to question.


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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: Exacta <Exacta@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: S.E. Wisconsin Contract Positions
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:15:43 GMT

Exacta Corporation, a growing southeastern Wisconsin	
consulting firm, is seeking qualified professionals	
with any of the following skillsets:

1)  PRISM
2)  UNIX, AIX, RS6000, FOCUS, Dialog Manager
3)  Cybase, Uniface
4)  Visual Basic
5)  AS400 LANSA
6)  4th DIMENSION
7)  GUPTA
8)  MAXCIM
9)  ABOP

If you posess any of the listed skills, please	
send a resume to:

Exacta Corporation
Attn: Mary Lee, Recruitment Specialist
16596 West Bluemound Road	 
Brookfield, WI 53005

Voice: 414-796-0000  Fax: 414-784-8922
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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: 0005667468@mcimail.com (MCL Systems Ltd.)
Subject: Exp. Oracle for East Coast
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:08:00 GMT

MCL Systems is a growing consulting firm based at McLean, 
VA. Currently we are looking for consultants for a project in 
East Coast having experience in  
 
		ORACLE 
 
Please send your resumes to 
 
MCL Systems Limited 
2010 Corporate Ridge Rd 
McLean, VA 22102 
 
Fax :- (703) 749-1482 
e-mail :- mclsys@mcimail.com 
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: rnace@halcyon.com (Roger Nace - Excell Data Corp.)
Subject: Contract: Networking Project Manager, Bellevue, WA
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:37:20 GMT

Contract Position: Project Manager

Location: Bellevue WA (Near Seattle)

Contract Description:  An experienced (5 years minimum) project manager
is needed to manage the setup and implementation of a TCP/IP network on
HP Workstations.  The specific requirements include experience in
managing the logistics of networking hardware and software installations, 
the coordination of user phase-in and training as well as post-
installation network management.  

A working knowledge of TCP/IP networking is required, but the primary
experience that we are looking for is in the area of project management.

Duration: One year (with the possibility of extension).

Need: Immediate

Resumes: By email to rnace@excell.com or Fax to (206) 527-0120.  The
hiring manager is Rick Loya.

Employer: Excell Data Corporation.

Excell is a growing software services company that has a full range of
benefits for all employees.

Excell Data Corporation
9750 3rd Ave. NE
Seattle, WA 98115
(206) 527-1890
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jkenton@world.std.com (Jeff Kenton)
Subject: Re: Interview Travel Expenses
Organization: Kenton Systems Corporation, Weston MA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:33:47 GMT

ghines@seanews.akita.com (Gary Hines) writes:

>Last week a job shop called to let me know that one of their
>customers wanted to interview me but that I would have to pay
>my own travel expenses.  I said no thanks.  In this case the 
>travel costs would have been about $600 and the job was a
>three month contract.

>Since I am new to the world of contract software work, could
>some of the experienced job shoppers please tell me what is 
>typical with regard to payment of interview travel expenses?

Every time you go to the airport without prepaid tickets, you are risking
some of your money.  Sometimes it's unavoidable, sometimes not.

For longer contracts, I have heard of the client or the agency paying
airfare.  In this case, if the agency wasn't willing to bet a plane
ticket on your getting the contract, you shouldn't either.


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Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: murray@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Charlie Murray)
Subject: Re: VMS Guru for San Diego (Broker)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:41:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina

In article <71486@cup.portal.com>, Lance_Charles_Rowan@cup.portal.com writes:
|> Mini-Systems Associates needs a VMS guru to start work immediately in San Diego. If you can not interview in person at your own expense within the next week, please do not respond. Our client will need you to work through the holidays at a pace of 50-70 h|> ours per week, and extend to the middle of January. The rate is not to exceed $40/hour.
|> 
|> You must have EXTENSIVE RECENT experience working with VMS system service calls, mailboxes, QIO calls, multi-tasking embedded applications. Experience with Oracle and x.25 a plus!
|> 
|> This is an urgent post. Please expedite by faxing your qualifications to Lance Rowan @ 619-675-7899 ASAP. You may then contact him at 619-675-7888.
|> 
|> Mini-Systems Associates- "Expert Programmers Shaping the Information Age!"

Guru?  start immediately? interview at own expense?  work through the holidays?
at a pace of 50-70 hrs/week?  to the middle of January?

	BUT?????

The rate is not to exceed $40/hour!!!!!

Where can I sign up...

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From: The_Avery_Group@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Network Programmers,San Jose,CA (Recruiter)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:03:47 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ca

			  	NETWORKING PROGRAMMERS

We have a need  for SEVERAL networking Programmers.

Must have experience in any one of the following areas:

			1.  Novell Netware
			2.  TCP/IP
			3.  Banyan
			4.  Electromagnetics

Experience with one of the following is also required MSDOS,UNIX or 
OS/2.

This is a contract opportunity with the possiblity of going to a Staff 
position if interested.  Location is in the South bay area.  The hourly 
rate is $35 to 45 per hour.  Rate is dependent on experience level. 
The Avery Group works with W2 employees as well as Corporations 
and Sole Proprietors with Federal Tax ID numbers.  This opportunity 
should begin around the first of January.

For more specifics regarding the Contract call Kathy TODAY at 415-
688-7900.

The Avery Group is a High Technology Search and Consulting Firm 
that specializes in software engineering.  For immediate 
consideration and more indepth details please call or Fax  your 
resume today to:


		Kathy Nielsen (Contract Recruiter),The Avery Group
		444 Ramona Street, Palo Alto, CA 94301
		Phone (415) 688-7900         Fax(415) 327-2514 
		Email  avery@cup.portal.com
From: Lance_Charles_Rowan@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: GUI, Medical Devices (broker) San Diego
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 05:59:41 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

MSA is looking for an X-Windows developer with exp. with Xt, Xlib, Sun
Sparcstations, SunView etc.

You must have developed An X-Windows application for some medical instrument
or device already. The work is in San Diego, starting Jan 4 or after and can
last up to 6 months. You will be paid a good hourly wage plus benefits.
One way travel is also covered. If this sounds like you please call Lance
Rowan @ Mini-Systems Associates 619-675-7888, fax resume 619-675-7899.

MiniSystems Associates- "Expert Programmers Shaping the Information Age."
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
From: jbocts@teal.csn.org (John Becker)
Subject: SPICE Simulation
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:23:56 GMT


ENGINEER E.E.
To perform SPICE modeling. models improvement.  IC level.
Company in Ft. Collins Colorado. 
6 to 9 month Temporary assignment.
Industrial experience a must.
CMOS devices.
UNIX 'C' required
2 years in ASIC or Semiconductor industry.
ON CALL TECHNICAL SERVICES
BOX 2125
Loveland c CO 80539
Tel: (303) 667-6222
Fax: (303) 667-8966
Use telephone, fax, or US postal svc to contact only
From: jarnold@tixel.mv.com (Jon Arnold)
Newsgroups: misc.jobs.contract
Subject: Interview Travel Expenses
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:30:19 GMT
Organization: 
Reply-To: jarnold@tixel.mv.com

I would also be interested in the answer to this question.  When interviewing
for a fulltime job with a company, the norm seems to be that the company
will pay reasonable travel expenses. (Although they may *not* also provide
relocation reimbursement if they offer you the job).

But for contractors, it seems (from my limited experience in this area
to date) that the interview travel expenses are your own nickel.  While I
don't personally think it should be that way, it seems like many companies
who hire contractors are taking advantage of the glut of independants
currently available due to high-tech layoffs, and seem to feel they can
impose those charges on the applicant.  Rule of Economics 101: The law
of supply and demand...

Jon Arnold                        Phone: W: 603-883-1233
Nashua, New Hampshire             Fax:   W: 603-883-7350
                                         H: 603-883-6371

      "If you ain't the lead dog, the view never changes."