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From: AMM@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (ann mandi)
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Subject: soap
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:47:00 GMT
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I got to the end of a bar of soap this morning, and hesitated before
throwing out the slivers.  I never did that before.  Hang around with
this crowd for a while, and they take over your life.  Ack!  Today I
find you're all in the shower with me, what next?

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ann mandi
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'No matter what I talk about, I always get back to baseball.'
-- Connie Mack
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:04:02 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Establishment (was legislating)

>> No.  Saying floccinaucinihilipilification too often will brand you as
>> a twit no matter what school people think you went to...
>>
>> G
>
>Somehow, it seems to me very fitting that Tushar and Graham should be
>having the above conversation.
>
>rashmi

This almost begins to sound as if it were a snide remark.

I happen to be an authority on who gets called a twit, that's all.

tushar
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From:         "Tony @ Brownvm" <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Panhandlers
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Posted on 5 Nov 1992 at 12:07:54 by Bill Merrill

>Honest to God I would give to these people if I didn't believe
>that they would misspend the money. The Lord helps those
>who help themselves, they say . . . and yet another proverb
>comes to mind which expresses in but five words how a gift
>in the moment of need carries twice the impact. Bis dat qui
>cito dat. "He gives twice who gives quickly." There was talk
>when I was in San Francisco a couple of years ago about
>issuing coupons that could be redeemed only for food and shelter.
>I wonder if such a program has been implemented, and if so,
>whether it has been successful. Bill

There is/was such a scheme in Berkeley, and a small scale one is
run in downtown Toronto.  I patronize a chain of coffee shops
(the Second Cup) that gives customers "coffee club" cards that
they punch each time you buy a coffee.  With six punches you
get a free coffee.  The card has room for four free coffees.

I let the cards get up to two or three or four coffees, and then
give them to people who ask for money "for a cup of coffee".
I'm not sure if I am being cheap or patronising or somesuch,
but I know the coffee is good and they can sit in the store
for a while.

Tony H.
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Presley's ancestral abode
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> Today I had the signal honor of receiving a postcard on an architectural
> theme from Natalie and Judith.  Said postcard, emanating from Memphis,
> depicted the humble dwelling place in which the King Himself was raised in
> his early days.  It seems to me this postcard took longer than one might
> have expected to make the journey.  Perhaps awestruck mail carriers at
> points in between felt the need to hand it around from one to another,
> caress it, place it for a few hours on the mantle, take it home to show the
> kids, etc.

Good grief.  They must've placed in on mantles for days, not hours.
Was it mailed from Memphis?  I can't remember now.  It did emanate from
Memphis in that it was bought in the Memphis airport, but you should
point out that the humble dwelling place depicted on the card was in
Mississippi -- place of the King's birth and early nurturing.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: amendment 2
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:23:22 GMT


	I've just lost all respect for Graham and Jim.  This saddens
me very deeply.


-- 
Rita Marie Rouvalis              rita@eff.org 
Electronic Frontier Foundation   | And he spun himself right down 
155 Second Street                | into the ground. Now wasn't that 
Cambridge, MA 02141 617-864-0665 | lucky?  --Deadsy 
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From:         "Tony @ Brownvm" <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: amendment 2
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Posted on 8 Nov 1992 at 18:20:21 by Graham Toal

>Say Frank, Blommie - got any comments on religion in the exUSSR?  We had
>an interesting documentary here showing right-wing US fundies sending
>in people by the busload to prey apon the people who're starting to
>experience open religion for the first time.  It was really frightening
>that the first thing they were getting from the West was our religious
>bigotry.

Of course it may also be just another fraud on the poor old folks who
send their hard earned money off to the televangelists.  A few years
back one of them had a scheme to send bibles to the USSR using huge
balloons.  These would supposedly be released from somewhere in Europe,
and drift over commie land before dropping their load of literature.

Millions of dollars were collected for this piece of nonsense, and
they even made a fake documentary on a couple of launches.  (At least
they had the sense not to have fake shots of grateful recipients opening
their shiny new bibles!)

Tony H.
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From: karsten@netcom.com (karsten)
Subject: Re: Referenda do be do be do (Re: Adventures in Democracy)
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haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock) writes:
> Ok, speaking of elections, voting and all that stuff, who can tell me the
> facts about the Colorado referendum which supposedly passed which was kith
> and kin to the homophobic Oregon one (which was defeated...).  I just can't
> believe its true that it passed.  So, what exactly did "it" say...anyone?

I grabbed this from soc.motss.  It's from the literature of the main
group that campaigned against the Colorado referendum.  (And it did
pass, BTW.)

> 5.	What does the proposed Colorado for Family Values amendment say?
> 
> It would amend Article 2 of the Colorado Constitution by the addition
> of Section 30, which states: NO PROTECTED STATUS BASED ON HOMOSEXUAL,
> LESBIAN OR BISEXUAL ORIENTATION. Neither the State of Colorado,
> through any of its branches or departments, nor any of its agencies,
> political subdivisions, municipalities or school districts, shall
> enact, adopt or enforce any statute, regulation, ordinance or policy
> whereby homosexual, lesbian or bisexual orientation, conduct,
> practices or relationships shall constitute or otherwise be the basis
> of, or entitle any person or class of persons to have or claim any
> minority status, quota preferences, protected status or claim of
> discrimination. This Section of the Constitution shall be in all
> respects self-executing.
> 
> Put simply, this amendment says that no town or other governmental
> subdivision will ever be allowed to vote on the matter of
> non-discrimination for gay and lesbian people. And if anybody voted on
> it in the past, such vote is cancelled, voided, over-turned.  Nothing
> this negative against basic civil rights (jobs, housing, public
> accommodations) has ever been tried in the United States.

--karsten

(I guess Colorado has become the new Arizona)
From: dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith)
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Subject: Hello from Jill
Date: 7 Nov 92 04:29:56 GMT
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I just had a long note from Jill Werts and she said to give her best to
the wordslers.  She plans to be back eventually.

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
From: gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal)
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:Agreed.  Is Graham going to forward your comments to that specimen of the
:enlightened, non-divisive cultural elite whose posting on some other list
:motivated this thread?

I would if I could find it again, but it's lost now.  Anyway, I've
got enough on my plate laying into 90% of soc.bi for being a bunch
of nauseous PC self-righteous pillocks without taking on the bigots
of soc.motss too.  Maybe Karsten will help out there if he comes across
that posting.

G
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 11:00:26 CST
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Monkeys: recap and a story

>Why are you going to regret the posting?  If my mother told me that she
>had been bitten by a monkey, I would want to tell somebody.  And what
>better somebodies, especially in the middle of the night, than WORDS-L?

Because WORDS-L is public, and not the same as a few good somebodies.
I posted this for its potential bizarreness value. Generally I don't
want to put every damned thing on display for the eyes of random net
bozos.


>Better a monkey than your pet elephant...what was his name again?
>
>Karen

Kuvalayapeeda is a name lifted straight out of story we hear as kids.
Not "my" elephant. Kindly preserve distinctions. By the way, I got a
clipping from "Far Eastern" in mail some time ago. Thanks very much.


Since the in house monkey scientist has herself assured that monkey
bites are not all that dangerous/"bad" I stay assured. Thanks.


>                                                Why are you
>so surprised? There seemed to be monkeys around just about
>everywhere we went in India...but I will admit, not too many
>just running around within Bombay.

This happened in Orissa. Hundreds of then running around near the
Jagannath temple, apparently.

>                                          They were particularly
>in evidence near temples, and also on the grounds of our hotel
>in Bangalore.

I remember one day in Bangalore. We were living on the eigth floor
of a hotel. I was alone in the room and decided to take a walk in
the hallway. I left the door open. Returning about two minutes later
I saw the biggest brute of a monkey getting out of our room carrying
a mango. He was not the least bit surprised to see a lesser primate
coming to the room. I was too surprised to do anything. Calmly and
with dignity, he made for the stairs and reached the ground floor in
what seemed to me a blink of the eye. I was watching the stairwell
from above and what I saw was a brownish blur racing down and depositing
mango peels in its wake. He got out of the hotel building with practised
ease, mingled with the crowd and was soon untraceable.

Upon returning from wherever they had gone, certain members of my family
were prone to look on this story as a rather non-standard explanation of
the missing mango. But the excellent man who came to sweep the room in
the evening bore out my story and warned us not to leave rooms open any
time. He added that by keeping rooms closed he meant locking all the doors
and windows and ensuring that the keys were not available to the general
public, for most monkeys he had met around that place were exceedingly
cunning devils and applied their brains in ingenious ways to procure their
daily nourishment.

Anyone who wants evidence of this story can contact that man, a great friend
whose name I have now forgotten, at Hotel Sindhu on Subhedar Chatram road.

tushar
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: Men can get on the rag too
Date: 7 Nov 1992 20:52:36 GMT
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In a previous article, harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) says:

>On Sat, 7 Nov 1992, Graham Toal wrote:
>
>>
>> So don't worry about it.  You're not missing much.
>
>Graham, dear, keep this up and you'll have *two* newsgroups asking for your
>head on a platter.
>
>-abh
Which head would you like, Anne?  I don't have much use for either, except
maybe as a target.  There's a rotten Halloween pumpkin here that needs
tossing.<evil grin> 

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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Mechanics of Response Style (was Re: amendment 2)
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On Sat, 7 Nov 1992, (Jim Thomas) wrote:

> In article <1dha2tINNct8@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
 (Ruth
> M. Hanschka) writes:
>
> >Nice try Graham, but you've had your free spanking for the day.  The next

> Gosh, Ruth. You're going to start charging for handing out such favors?

Besides, he <might> like it and become your special friend afterwards.

-abh
From: R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Evelyn)
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Date: 11 Nov 92 14:29:51 GMT
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              11 Nov 1992 10:09:33 EST from <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

Lestat is the one who brought Louis over.  Louis had totally
misunderstood Lestat's intentions and character in Interview.
If you read The Vampire Lestat, I think you'd be pleasantly
surprised.

Evelyn
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Tushar on the Ga
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:>"Liminal" refers to threshhold. The period between clearing the
:>roads and the actual holiday, when no debts are to be contracted
:>or paid, etc, is the "threshhold" of the holiday.

:The sentence was something like "the restriction on socially
:disruptive activities reinforces the liminality of the ... festival".

:So apparently the festival marks some kind of "boundary". Liminal
:is a bad word to use for just any kind of boundary or "crossing over"
:or "turning point".

:tushar

Precisely why I said that liminal didn't make sense in context.  I still
think the author was think about something to do with limn, perhaps
emphasizing how the festival is strictly delineated from the surrounding
non-festival behaviour.  If we knew what the author was trying to say
we might be able to find an appropriate word...

G
From: ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (blomberg cepeda)
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Subject: recessive accents
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:42:42 GMT
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I was reading Fowler last night, and was struck by the fact that, in the
section of "recessive accent", which more or less covers English stress, almost
all of the examples given were words that are stressed differently in American
than in British. Why is it that Americans have apparently been more faithful to
French stress, say (plateau, chateau, garage), while also being more
conservative about recessive accents (laboratory)?

     blomberg cepeda      st402747@brownvm

P.S. In re: Paris or Seville. I'd rather be in Moscow--it would save on my
phone bills.
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Date: 12 Nov 92 00:39:47 GMT
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Posted on 11 Nov 1992 at 19:20:32 by (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
>        Isn't there a famous game-show host called Llewelyn?  I can
>hear his oily voice in my head, but I can't remember which show it is
>from.

Doug Llewelyn?  Love Connection?  I don't know how I know this, I only
get one channel...

Karen
Trivia Repository and List Angel
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: amendment 2
Date: 9 Nov 1992 08:00:49 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:


>Thank you.  There was a lot in that last letter that I could follow up
>about your hypocrisy and selective reading of the bible ('out of context'
>my arse - what a great cop-out) but that last posting puts yourself on
>the party line in exactly the way I knew you would.

>You agree with OR9's bigotry, but you're a hypocrite and would abstain
>to salve your conscience.  You're beneath contempt.  I want no more to
>do with you.
Fine. Then stop criticizing me.  Go away,  Shut up.  And while you're at it
could you quit with the name calling?  I have told you the truth, the whole
truth, and nothing but as far as I know it.  If you call that being hypocritical
then I'm guilty as charged.

>You said earlier that you though I was expecting no response or a paper
>tiger when I first asked a question to the effect of there being a
>correlation between Christian Fundies and right-wing politics.  You
>couldn't have been further from the truth.  For years I've been sickened
>by the Fundy christian bigotry which recently came to a head in the US
>with these draconian resolutions, but I've never been able to pin anyone
>down to admitting to being a fundamentalist believer in the literality
>of the bible, and I genuinely wanted to find out if they're as sick and
>deluded as the majority of opinion holds them to be.  I really expected
>you to put up a spirited and rational argument, and to say that of
>course you didn't *really* believe every word of the bible in its
>literality, contradictions and all, and that it was just a metaphor.
>But no, you've convinced me beyond doubt that you and your ilk are
>dangerous if not psychotic nutters, and I'll do everything in my power
>to proselytise against you in future.  Congratulations, you've dragged
>a moderate who likes to keep out of these things into the world of
>sexual politics.
>
Fine.  But you dragged yourself in.  Call me all the names you like; I'm
sick [literally and physically] of responding to them.  I blew a few
of your expectations, to which I can only say, "that's life".

>If you think this is getting personal, it is.
It's been personal for a long time.   

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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: I thought since He won i would remind you of his
              qualifications.
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And he's normal talking.  No abrasive accent to endure.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
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>More likely the bit about "I consider myself a Christian..."
>(Carolyn is clearly a Witch :-) )

You sprung me.... What did I say to give myself away? :-)

>Modulo that bit, I agree with you too.
>(I'm clearly an evil Satanic devil with a twinkle in his eye...)
>
>G

Just how I like my warlocks.

Carolyn
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On Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:26:15 CST <tushar> samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU said:

>Similar processes seem to be at work behind list angel, list
>uncle, bandwidth pig etc. List goddess is one example which
>doesn't seem to follow the pattern. About Czarina, I am not
>sure.

>tushar
>List Subscriber.

But tushar, aren't you list huNk?  :}

Bettyz
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From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
 <WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Adventures in Democracy

>> Does anyone know how well Marrou and the Libertarians did?

>They lost.

>-abh
        (Sounds like a good name for a garage band!)
Well, *I* voted for a couple of Libertarians, for all the good it did...
{Senator and Corporation Commission(!)}  For those of you thinking that AZ is
a hotbed of redneckitude I'd like to point out that offsetting the mayor's
refusal to let Mesa PL buy Madonna's book three citizens then donated copies -
they're locked in the mayor's office 8-) ; MLK Day [unshared, btw] passed;
we elected several women to Congress; and the anti-abortion initiative was
voted down.  "How far that candle throws it's beam!"

JMW

ps - Meanwhile, down in Oracle Junction, the air in Biosphere is getting
worse.  The oxygen level continues to drop, and some of the Biospherians
are on breathing masks at night.  Hey, bring the kids!
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Old grunts

>This sounds like a bad parody of Chicago-school economics: there's
>no point in debating whether or not an institution is efficient; the
>fact that it exists and has survived means there is no more
>efficient institution to take its place.

This is just silly.  There may be a more efficient institution to take its
place.  The existing institution may simply make it "inefficient" for the
contender to actually do the place-taking.

-K

-Mka
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: HELLO!
Originator: rita@eff.org
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:56:39 GMT


	Isn't there a famous game-show host called Llewelyn?  I can
hear his oily voice in my head, but I can't remember which show it is
from.

-- 
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