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From: Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sinead does SNL
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:36:55 GMT
 <1992Oct14.150439.10523@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Oct14.150439.10523@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:

> > "Think!" indeed.
> 
> *sigh*
> 

I am sorry to disappoint you.

 - nathan
From: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) 
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: RE: XTC RECOMMENDATIONS
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:57:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) 

Someone asked if the Dub Experiments include Mr Partridge Takeaway.
Yes, it does include that goofy release.

As for the drummer on Oranges and Lemons, it's still a mystery.
From: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: joy division
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:05:29 GMT
Reply-To: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

j.d. went on to form new order when the lead singer ian curtis died ( suicide) and the members of new order are currently doing solo things like revenge, electronic, and the other twwo....
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From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Subject: Re: Nirvana...well, Nevermind.
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:36:20 GMT

In article <kauffman.26.718393089@slab.unt.edu> kauffman@slab.unt.edu (DON KAUFFMAN) writes:
>From: kauffman@slab.unt.edu (DON KAUFFMAN)
>Subject: Nirvana...well, Nevermind.
>Date: 6 Oct 92 17:38:09 GMT
>
>	I just got the Nevermind CD.  There's an extra track on the end.
>	I had heard that the extra track was only on some early	pressings
>	of the CD.  So does this mean that the early CDs did not have 
>	the extra track?  Does this song have a name?  What's the story?
>	(I made a tape from a friend's CD, and I didn't get this song.)
>
>	I'm sorry to be asking this question so late.
>	I feel so out of touch.

	
Yes, you are quite right. The repressing of the "Nevermind" CD had an extra 
track approx. 12 minutes after the last song. Not the 1st pressing. And, 
yes, the song have a name. It's called "Endless Nameless". It's allso found 
on the "Come As You Are" 12" single.




          /\           | I didn't say this.      | "I never forget a
        /    \         | My supervisor would     | face. Especially
      /        \       | kill me if i did.       | when I've sat
    /    (<>)    \     |_________________________| on it."
  /                \   |Gunnar Horrigmo          | -Kathleen Turner
/____________________\ |gunnarh@sofus.dhhalden.no| Crimes of passion
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: New MBM: Satyricon Review
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:32:37 GMT

In article <6016@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> mrhodes@csnext.ucsb.edu (Rhodes;Matt;A;;;COMS;Graduate;940630;920902;1000) writes:
>
>Well, I bought the new Meat Beat Manifesto album this week.  It's my first
>purchase of this band's tunes, so I can't compare it to anything else.
>I found the album very reminiscent of Depeche Mode, a David Gohn-like
>voice and a techno-pop sound.  I prefer a much harder sound, so I'm
>selling mine back.  But that doesn't mean it's bad music, it's just not
>right for me.

   Well, there's _Storm_the_Studio_ and better yet _Armed_Audio_Warfare_
  if you want a "harder" sound.  (and hard IT IS!)

                                                             K!z!K
From: chadwemy@wpi.WPI.EDU (Chad Barret Wemyss)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: ???Primus???
Date: 10 Oct 1992 18:38:37 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <92282.120753IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu> IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Any one have any news on anything new from Primus?
>I'm new at this, I think there considered "alternative" and yet I've never
>seen any type of discussion on this news group.
>anyway, If anyone Does have any news let me know.

I saw them this summer when they were touring with U2 (!) and I thought they 
were great.  Les Claypool (that's his name, right?) plays some incredible bass.
He plays it as if it is a guitar, doing unbelievable solos, and he's all over 
the place on stage.  

I just thought they were a great band.

Chad Wemyss
Worcester Polytechnic Institute


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:41:05 EDT
From: <BXJ101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: SELLING CDs AND TAPES

I'm selling off some of my collection.. email me if you are interested, or have
any questions.  I'll take best offers.
CD'S
    Bullet LaVolta     --  the Gift
    Toni Childs        --  House of Hope
    Dead Milkmen       --  Soul Rotation
    EMF                --  Schubert Dip
    the Glove          --  Blue Sunshine
    the La's           --  the La's
    Material Issue     --  International Pop Overthrow
    Wire               --  It's Beginning To And Back Again    case is cracked
    Various Artists    --  No Flies Here      (2 songs each by Loud Sugar, 13
                                 Engines, and Jesus Jones -- prev.unreleased)
    Various Artists    --  A Restless World     (includes the Zeros, Sun, the
                                 Doughboys, Yellow Magic Orchestra, Terrance
                                 Simien and the Mallet Playboys, The Last Drive
                                 , Cirith Ungol, Barbie Bones, Greg Sage, Burn
                                 Baby Burn, the Bhagavad Guitars, Band of Susan
                                 s, Hellion, Bobby Sherman, Raging Slab, Fear,
                                 Agent Orange, DOA, and Honk)
    Cure CD SINGLE     --   High, This Twilight Garden, Play, High (higher
                                  remix)

TAPES
    Age Of Chance      --  Mecca
    Anthrax            --  Attack of the Killer B's
    Chagall Guevara    --  Chagall Guevara
    Julian Cope        --  Peggy Suicide
    Dead Can Dance     --  the Serpent's Egg
    Various Artists    --  Flyin' Through Sunday  (2 songs each by Springhouse,
                              Chuck Treece, Smashing Pumpkins, and Sunday All
                              Over the World featuring Robert Fripp)
    Various Artists    --  A Lump Of Coal (xmas songs done by Hoodoo Gurus,
                              Crash Test Dummies, the Wedding Present, Drunken
                              Boat, Divine Weeks, Carnival Art, the Primitives,
                              Young Fresh Fellows, the Odds, Clockhammer, and
                              Henry Rollins)

thanks, beth
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: tedg@apollo.HP.COM (Ted Grzesik)
Subject: Re: NIN
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:40:39 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <92276.130759JD2859A@auvm.american.edu>, Jeff Dubin <JD2859A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
|> a) The CD3 with my disc had nothing on the back.  No idea it was Adam Ant.

The sleeve it came in gives credit to "A. Ant".

|> b) 99 tracks?  Bonus on 98 & 99 ?  Odd...  I'd rather that though than having
|>    to take up two spaces on my changer.  But I'm being picky.
|> c) Longboxes _are_ evil.  But so are those _dumb_ single packs.
|> Jewelcases are great.  Yeah, they break, but I've had my NIN not a week
|>    and the cardboard is already frayed.
|> d) Regardless of 'fuck'-ing and the fact that a two-year-old can play the
|>    chords, I still feel that it was great.  The best music can be sometimes
|>    the best.
|> ---

In regards to this whole packaging thing.  I thought it was great!!  The box
has enough thickness to it that it takes up the same amount of space as a
jewel box (unlike other boxes, like U2's Boy).  I liked the way it folds out
so that the CD is part of the artwork.  I would complain that the lyrics are
too hard to read.  I also thought it was neat that it came with an extra
"unidentified" CD3.

It's about time artists started playing with the packaging.  I miss getting
records like (going back in time here...) Led Zeppelin's "Physical Graffitti"
and "In Through the Out Door".  CDs have been far too boring for far too long.

You the consumer can feel special:  Apparently the CDs sent to the radio 
stations don't have the extra songs.

My initial reaction to the album is that I like it - this is mostly due to
an incredible craving for ANYTHING new from NIN.  I would complain that the
vocals are too difficult to understand.  On PHM I was able to figure out the
lyrics by just listening - not so with Broken.  I'm looking forward to the
album in January.

NIN was clearly the best performance at Lollapalooza.  I went to the show
craving for Jane's Addiction, but I left the show craving for more NIN!

-- 
Ted Grzesik       Massachusetts Language Lab             Hewlett-Packard Company
tedg@apollo.hp.com                                Chelmsford, MA  (508) 436-5959
"Contrariwise", continued Tweedledee, "If it was so, it might be; 
and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't.  That's logic."
                                        -- Lewis Carroll
From: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: nz music scene
Date: 12 Oct 92 08:00:56 GMT
Reply-To: x3460afe@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

it's chris knox, not chris know, just letting you know....
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: emp1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Ernest M. Paik)
Subject: Re: wedding present
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:04:19 GMT

CP8219A@auvm.american.edu (Christopher H. Prokop) writes:

>Yeah, like the Wedding Present, they are still releasing a single every
>month for the rest of the year, available in UK.  Then all will be
>put on Hit Pararde II (like HP I, from Jan-Jun)  Apparantly they may
>also include additional live tracks on the disk.  They also have a new
>live video out.  Great Band.

Cool!  A live video?  THAT would be great.
In the case of The Wedding Present, I'm glad I live in the USA...the USA 
versions of "Bizarro" and "Seamonsters" both have bonus songs not 
available on the UK versions...

Has anyone had luck finding "Tommy" and the album they made of Ukrainian
music?

"Everyone thinks he looks daft, but you can have your dream..."
From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: REM
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:43:59 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <93133@netnews.upenn.edu> kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch) writes:
>
>Chronic Town isn't an album, just as DLO and Eponymous are not.
>Actually, some of those songs on CT were cut way before they were ever
>released.  Actually at that time, rem cut "Just a Touch" which was modified and
>later put on Pageant 5 years later...
>
>But CT is a good EP, much better than some of their albums.
>
>kcw

Oh Jesus H Christ, let's nitpick why don't we???

In fact, let's nitpick some more...

If 'Dead Letter Office' isn't an album, why is it an LP?

Joshua H
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houk@athena.cs.uga.edu * email for rockin' indie-list info!
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: kennede@carr58.alleg.edu (Erin Kennedy)
Subject: Re: The Might Be Giants
Keywords: They Might Be Giants
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:13:03 GMT

In article <kbennett.718921661@milton> kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu  
(K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:
> Somehow I just hadn't thought of TMBG as the kind of band one would
> stage-dive to.  I guess I'm just so far away from 21 as to have missed
> this.
> 
> :)
> 
> Lena
> 

I saw TMBG in Pittsburgh this summer and no one "stage-dived".  I kind of  
don't understand why anyone would, but it was a great concert and they are  
the best band!!  I am under 21 and think we all got a bad rap for the  
other incidents.  I agree not evryone is mature under 21, but I know some  
over 21's that would stage-dive, too!!  :) :) :) :) :) :)
		erin 
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From: s14182sm@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: MADE IN HEAVEN
Reply-To: s14182sm@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:14:04 GMT

I JUST SAW A SONG CALLED "ROMANCE" IN "EPONYMOUS" THAT SAID IT CAME
FROM THE MADE IN HEAVEN SOUNDTRACK. BUT I HAVE NEVER ACTUALLY SEEN IT.

                          THANKS,       
                                        STEVE
From: JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: INXS, peter murphy
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:18:07 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

HEy, Iagree with everyword you said about INXS (Except for the fact that Welcom
e... is their best album to date.  But that is beside the point)  It is about
time that SOMEONE stands up for the greatest group on the planet!!!!!!  I just
hope that everyone else realizes it before it is too late and that stupid rap
and hip-hop garbage takes over the world!
                                         INXSively yours,
                                              Jill
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: chris@wg.estec.esa.nl (chris rouch)
Subject: Re: Need THAT PETROL EMOTION info
Reply-To: chris@wg.estec.esa.nl
Organization: WG/Estec, Noordwijk, The Netherlands
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 14:24:56 GMT

In article <vawda.718617806@sfu.ca>, vawda@fraser.sfu.ca (Ramon Vawda) writes:
> The last I heard That Petrol Emotion was back in 1990 with their album      
> "Chemicrazy"
> Have they done anything since then or split up or something ?? 
> I have to know .... please please please

They've been sacked by Virgin as part of their general clear out since being
sold to EMI. There was a live review in a recent NME, so they're still playing
together. They have enough material for a new album, but obviously nothing
will be released until they get a new deal.

Chris
From: u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Cure: I Wish...
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:52:35 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.

djperry@husc11.harvard.edu (Lord of deXness) writes:

>Compare Open to Shake Dog Shake.

No comparison.  "Shake Dog Shake" is searing, blunt and ugly..."Open" follows
its footsteps (but it's not one of the horror areas of _Wish_).

>Compare Friday to The Caterpillar.

My God.  This stretches the bounds of credulity...an acid dizzy pop whirl
compared to "Friday I'm in Love"?  If there are similarities for you, then
I don't think there's a lot of point arguing, but for me, one is a classic
and the other leaves a taste of bitter disappointment.

>The ENTIRE Japanese Whispers album is more poppy than Wish, especially since all
>the singles from it were deliberate attempts at pop songs.  As far as I can see,

	Yes!  Though I wish it didn't need spelling out, the singles
compiled on _Japanese Whispers_ were jokes, a sly dig at idiot pop designed
to stop people taking the Cure so seriously and to enable them to start afresh.
The lowpoints of _Wish_ are idiot pop done *without* irony, and without the
redeeming charm or idiosyncracy of "Lullaby" or even "Boys Don't Cry".

	As much as people want to be "open-minded" and say that success is OK
(which it is) and can't understand why getting commercial airplay is anathema
(which it IS!) the fact remains that the Cure were once a special band with
intelligent fans, who have now swerved into the tastes of the bland public.
Whatever you say, the music commercial radio plays is SHIT and if the Cure
are making inroads there then that is all the proof of a sad demise that
you need.  If you've only been a fan since, say, the 90% appaling "Kiss Me
Kiss Me Kiss Me" then you just won't understand, because the back catalogue
will always be just the back catalogue to you, and you won't have known
what it was like when they were important.  _Disintegration_ was a miracle,
a return to beauty I thought had gone forever, but _Mixed Up_ and _Wish_
have continued the saddening process that really started with the singles
collection.

			Sorry.  That's how it is for me.

				Matthew
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: gorf@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Craig Collister)
Subject: Cocteau Twins... What's New?
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: midwest
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:46:56 GMT

It's been two years since "Heaven or Las Vegas". Are Cocteau Twins planning
any new release in the near future?

I heard something to the effect of a boxed set being out... However, I have
no hard evidence.

Anyone know anything on either of these two topics?

Craig
From: kwelch@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: R.E.M. countdown theory
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:02:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <0eq=Jwu00awB0A_V0M@andrew.cmu.edu> mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Hamilton Walker) writes:
>There is a two on AFTP.  On the inside of the tape, there is a picture
>of some kind of sculpture that has two large circular rings.
>
>maybe.
>
>Mike

The number theory has always been surrounding NUMBERS that have been 
explicitly printed (although discrete) on the sleeves of their
albums, in odd places and in songs.  To have two pictures, or three
words in a title is just dumb.  What about the number 1 in AFTP -
it's the first song (drive).  Hey number one- first song, drive has
one word!  I mean, come on.


Besides, there is the number forty on the back sleeve.

kcw


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From: nimouat@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Nikos Mouat)
Subject: Re: Nine Inch Nails in Canada??
Keywords: When?
Reply-To: nikos@bnr.ca (Nikos Mouat)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:40:32 GMT

In article <watpod83.719080509@cunews>, watpod83@alfred.carleton.ca (Robert Telka) writes:
|> In <1992Oct9.203054.1188@bnr.ca> nikos@bnr.ca (Nikos Mouat) writes:
|> 
|> >     Anybody know when Nine Inch Nails new album is being released 
|> >in Canada???? I thought it was supposed to be released last week 
|> >but I've searched all over town and it is nowhere to be found!!
|> 
|> >Nikos..
|> >--
|> >     If you know, please post, I don't have access to my school account
|> >and can't mail out from here (only read and post news)
|> 
|> I thought I saw the new NIN in the Ottawa area... I could be wrong!
|> 
|> Robert Telka
|> Carleton University
|> Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
|> 

     Where??? I've check every music store I know of to no avail!


Nik

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From: klf@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Brian Mark Bishop)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Might Be Giants
Keywords: They Might Be Giants
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:37:19 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <BvroGB.79r@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bassler@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (bassler ryan p) writes:
>Ryan Bassler...bassler@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>They Might Be Giants
>What is the deal with these guys? (Thank you, Jerry Seinfeld). Recently
>one of my friends saw them in St. Louis (the same place we had seen them 
>on the Flood tour) and unfortunately I was busy at school and couldn't
>make it.  Anyway, he said it was one of the worst shows he had ever seen.
>Supposedly Flansburgh smarted off to the crowd quite a few times during 
>the show (at one point, they had asked the crowd to stop 'pitting'.
>Alternatively, one of the guys in the crowd yelled 'Fuck you" at which
>Flansburgh replied "no, fuck you.)  Have we lost these guys?  Are they 

Could it possibly be that the fans were assholes? I saw TMBG a few nights
ago, and Flansburgh was not like anything you describe. The Johns were
very polite to the crowd, and talked to us often. 
 
 In the paper the next day, Flansburgh said the crowd was excellent, one
 of the best he had played for.

 I thought they were excellent in concert.
From: julianjd@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: jesus and mary chain tour?
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:15:06 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Oct9.154523.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, slam@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>> Jesus and Mary Chain / Curve Tour......
>>         
>> I know here in Houston, the JAMC and Curve are playing Nov. 13.  Yes!
>> I am there.  This is a excellent combination of two bands.  I been a
>> long time JAMC fan and have seen them play twice before.  Both excellent
>> shows...
>> As for the 'Rollercoaster' tour, I know the JAMC did a tour in England 
>> called the 'Rollercoaster'.  Dont recall what bands were on the ticket but
>> I remeber it was at least 5 bands.
> Wait, the Mary Chain are continuing to tour?  This is beautiful.  I haven't
> heard anything about it, could someone inform me of dates?  As far as
> Rollercoaster, I know that they toured last spring in England with My Bloody
> Valentine, Dino Jr., and Blur.

Don't neglect the third band on the Rollercoaster bill.  Spiritualized.
This band formed from the remnants of Spacemen 3.  If you have never
heard either you are missing out on some incredible music.  You will
find it a treat to see and hear Jason Pierce play guitar.  Real
ear candy.  Don't miss them.  It will also be worth your while to
pick up SPIRITUALIZED's album "Lazer Guided Melodies".  They also have
a number of CD singles that are incredible, namely "Medication" and
"Any Way that you Want Me".

"You've got to open up your mind and let everything come through."    
 --Roky Erikson and the Thirteenth Floor Elevators, the song:
   "Rollercoaster", a tune Spacemen 3 cover on their album "Sound
    of Confusion.
From: mw5e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael Hamilton Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: New Mudhoney
Date: 11 Oct 92 23:06:29 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Is the new Mudhoney out yet?

I heard it was supposed to be out on the 6th, but the person at the
record store said the date had been pushed back
From: john@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (John)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: INXS, peter murphy
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:13:59 GMT
Organization: California State University, Fresno

>In article <92288.213057SAB145@psuvm.psu.edu> SAB145@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>
>> as for peter murphy, what happened to _holy smoke_? the album was just
>> released this summer, and in my humble opinion, was better than _deep_.
>> any body have any feelings. if negative keep them save it for someone
>> that cares.
>
You might like to know that Peter Murphy toured this area for _Holy
Smoke_, and the DJ on our local Alternapop station said after his
radio interview that Murphy *hates* a lot of stuff on the album. 

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