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From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: How do you calc eyesight  20/200??
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:34:57 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Apr15.014158.18205@Arco.COM> dlc@arco.com writes:
>Here is a question for you.  How do you convert diopters (sp?) to your eyesight
>in the form 20/20.  That is, if someone has a correction of -3.0 what does that
>equate to???  Thanks.
>

They don't measure exactly the same thing... "20/20" measures quality of
vision, and "-3.0" specifies the kind of glasses that will give the person
the best vision (which may be better than 20/20, or worse).

Still, a rough conversion (for distance vision) ought to be possible.
Any takers?

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From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Saline solution; was: Re: O2 a "prescription-only" drug?  Why?
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:50:06 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Apr16.044039.26338@utdallas.edu> kmldorf@utdallas.edu (George Kimeldorf) writes:

>I found a similar situation for normal saline.  At the drugstore, it requires
>a prescription and is expensive.  At the grocery store (table salt plus
>distilled water), it is cheap and available to everybody.

Never heard of needing a presciption for it, but that reminds me:

There are a number of formulas for saline solution for washing out one's
nose; some contain glycerin, baking soda, etc., as well as salt.
What are people's recommendations?  It's the middle of pollen season here...
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From: btbg1194@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bradley T Banko)
Subject: looking for Dale Peterson, Francis Croke or Tom Stroud ...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:06:20 GMT


I am trying to find out the current whereabouts of any one of these
Cleveland trained docs... Please send me email if you know where
Dale, Frank or Tom are now.

Brad Banko
b-banko@uiuc.edu

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 07:33:34 EDT
From: <EWN1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: TENS

Recently, I just started using a TENS unit in physical therapy to reduce
pain from a carpal tunnel release and an ulnar nerve release at the wrist
and nerve compression at the elbow.  Can anyone tell me how TENS works?
Originally, ultrasound was prescribed to try to break up scar tissue from
the surgery, but I couldn't tolerate the sensation in the palm of my hand
(it sent an electrical shock down the inside of my ring finger); can TENS
break up scar tissue?  Thanks in advance.
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From: george@ibmpcug.co.uk (Michael Veltman)
Newsgroups: sci.med,connect.audit
Subject: Re: Girl stopped growing... :(
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:25:04 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.

Dear Wolfram,

If there has been no growth in 2 1/2 years in a seven year old, please
get her seen by a paediatritian.

There are a whole list of reasons for why, and many are treatable.

There is a real chance that she will catch up in her growth if treated
early enough, with many of these conditions.

Hope this helps,

Michael

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The above opinion is not that of the IBMPCUG.
In fact, it may not be my opinion, either.

Michael Veltman         George@ibmpcug.co.uk
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Recommendations for an Excellent Medical Clinic
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:38:10 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <9204071551.aa16397@Paris.ics.uci.edu> weisenfl@sunshine.ICS.UCI.EDU (Barbara Weisenfluh) writes:
>I am seeking knowledgeable recommendations for the best medical facility
>to go to for a diagnosis of severe pain in the lower back area, cause unknown.
>The Mayo Clinic is the only one with which we are familiar, and wonder
>if this would be the best place to go.  Many tests and many physicians
>have not really yielded a sound diagnosis.

There is no best medical facility in general.  The Mayo Clinic is fine,
and they are set up to handle patients who have been seen by many
physicians with no diagnosis.  The odds are very good, however, that
they won't do any better.



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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Flatulance
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:05:58 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <92104.141515RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET> RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET writes:
>At what point does flatulance become recognised as a medical disorder ?

That would be quite rare, I would guess.

>Is there an accepted (perhaps socially acceptable) level for flatulance,
>and does exceeding this depend on frequency, duration, or content ?

All that as well as the musical quality.  In high society, there
is little tolerance of this natural bodily function.  So who
gives a toot, er, hoot.


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From: kmoser@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Kathy_Moser)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:14:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome:A retraction.
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: sci.med

>> Are the night braces available commercially, or must one get
>> a prescription and/or a special fitting?

Check the athletic brace section of a drugstore.  They always seem to have
the standard knee, elbow, etc. supports.  They often have wrist splints as
well.  These things go from the base of the fingers to partway up your
forearm and have a bent metal strip that runs up the inside of your wrist.
The plain elastic band sort of thing won't do much - you need the support
of the metal strip.  These things are in the neighborhood of $10-15 apiece.
There is no need to go to a specialty shop that is going to charge you an
exorbitant amount for something they may require a prescription to give you.

				Kathy Moser
				Hewlett-Packard, Network Printer Division
				Boise, ID
From: mac@abacus.concordia.ca ( JOHN MCKAY )
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Fact or fiction?
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:18:53 GMT
Organization: Cicma, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Originator: mac@abacus


 I have read (and can provide reference if requested) that native
 women in the Arctic do not menstruate for six months. If true,
 this presumably has some survival value for the babies. Is it
 true or nonsense ?

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From: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: High IQ world
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:41:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: suned1.19250
Reply-To: laura@TASVAX.NSWSES.NAVY.MIL
Organization: Naval Surface Warfare Center, Port Hueneme Division

In article <1992Apr5.145805.8402@anasaz>, john@anasaz (John Moore) writes:
>Keywords: 

>]>>...I cannot see how IQ can be reliably attached to sperm.

>]Nor can I...

>These are simply anecdotes and are useless for drawing conclusions. 

John,

The only conclusion that I drew here was that:

>]From my experience.  I believe that IQ is neither fully inherited nor 
>]fully a product of environment.

Anyway, it certainly IS useful for debunking *any* conclusion that IQ
is fully inherited.  

Furthermore, if you re-read my post, I think you will agree that I was 
drawing the same conclusion that you drew by saying:

>IQ can NOT be reliably attached to sperm (or eggs), but on the average
>some of it rubs off.

It's pretty obvious to me that we were saying the same thing with different
words.

Laura  McGovern
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From: larry@bradley.bradley.edu (Larry D. Stratton)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Self tanners (was Re: Tanning Re: Lime juice...)
Keywords: self-tanning creams
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:06:18 GMT
Organization: Bradley University

In <1992Apr16.152533.10206@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.143845.11106@brtph560.bnr.ca> merylf@brtph115.bnr.ca (Meryl W. Freeman) writes:
>>Speaking of tanning, does anyone know how these new self tanners work? They
>>are advertised as containing no dyes, and you get a "natural looking tan
>>but please don't quote me on that.
>I don't know why they'd be described as "new"; "tanning" lotions containing
>dihydroxyacetone (QT) have been around for 30 years or so.  
>They don't produce a real tan; that is, you don't get any protection
>from burning from the color change.  Dihydroxyacetone is considered
>fairly harmless--it's a natural metabolite of glycerol.

   Steve,
    The question is HOW they work.  Are they actually a dye of sorts?
    Since they are sold over-the-counter, they probably do not affect
    the melanine?

    There was once reported that an over-the-counter drug available
    in Canada (?) actually does cause an increase in melanine (or is
    that mellanine) which is 'a tan'.  Still available?  And still
    very rough on the kidneys?

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From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: O2 a "prescription-only" drug?  Why?
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:35:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: ttidca.34601
Organization: The Cat Factory

In article <14355@pitt.UUCP> geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
}In article <1992Apr10.154558@ddxrus.enet.dec.com> fgz@ddxrus.enet.dec.com (Federico Genoese-Zerbi) writes:
}>
}>... Imagine my surprise
}>when I found out that in Massachusetts you need a prescription to
}>buy the stuff....
}>
}Tell them you are taking up welding.

Indeed, I've always found this puzzling -- and a bit amusing.  I can
purchase the same bottle of oxygen at my local welding supply, probably
for much less money, that the local medical rental won't give me without a
prescription.  Note that welder's oxygen isn't any less pure or more
likely to be contaminated than the medical variety.  On the contrary,
professional welders are very picky about the purity of such things for
reasons having to do with both safety and quality of work.

Likewise for aviator's oxygen.  Makes you wonder how the medical rentals
stay in business. (-:

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405 {rutgers|pyramid|philabs|psivax}!ttidca!hollombe
Xref: sparky sci.med:8738 misc.kids:13102
From: pburch@shrike.mbir.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: sci.med,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Lime juice and lots of sun
Keywords: lime juice
Date: 16 Apr 1992 16:13:19 GMT
Reply-To: pburch@shrike.mbir.bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Followup-To: sci.med
Originator: pburch@shrike.mbir.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Apr14.173721.17245@cs.ucla.edu>, grace@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Grace Chen-Ellis) writes:
|> Well, the dermatologist said that a combination of lime juice and
|> lots of sun and heat will burn the skin -- in effect, my right
|> hand had a severe citric acid burn.  
...
|> 
|> the moral is: if you squeeze lots of limes, wash your hands WELL.

Could be the citric acid, but unlikely. Limes and other citrus fruits
contain a photosensitizer in the oil in the peel, which causes burns 
if there is sun exposure. A number of cases have arisen from squeezing 
a slice of lime into an alcoholic drink while lounging around a pool!

Perfume often contains oil of bergamot, which has a lovely citrus scent, 
so don't apply it on sun-exposed areas.

Taking tetracycline before sun-bathing can also cause a similar effect.

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
From: dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: High IQ world
Date: 6 Apr 92 07:03:24 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide

In article <1992Apr3.034948.918@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz> timothy@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Mr. Timothy Bates) writes:
>Why?  IQ tests are as scientific as a telescope,
>i.e. they are measurement tools and as such are neither scientific nor
>unscientific. The theories that they are used to tests may be scientific
>(testable) or unscientific (untestable).
>
Agreed. I should have said the manner in which IQ tests are currently
used is unscientific.

>Unfortunately for your argument practice doesn't alter IQ test scores

Depends what you mean by `practice.'

>This means that even doing exactly the  same test again a month after you
>first sat it, scores change very little.

By practice you seem to mean doing lots of tests. I mean more than that.
I mean actually coaching somebody to get good at doing IQ tests.

You give me any guy with an IQ of 120, and I bet you any money that I can
coach him to get to 145, no sweat. (Provided he is motivated to do
whatever I say and you give me 50 tests, with answers supplied, for me
to help him practice. The 50 tests have to be of a similar style to
the final test that you eventually test him on).

If I fail I'll give you $1,000,000.

>>Because of this I cannot see how IQ can be reliably attached to sperm.
>
>I would have thought that the IQ of a sperm was around 2 ;-)

I was obviously not referring to the intelligence of a sperm itself.
I was alluding to the genetic transfer of intelligence, by selecting
sperm from intellengt people, as the original poster implied.
I believe it is mostly in the coaching and training, NOT in
the sperm.

>>IQ does not make you a better
>>person.

>What is better? It certainly makes you more able to understand complex
>arguments and trains of logic.

How can a number or label MAKE someone understand complex trains of logic? :-)
I'm arguing that the measurement is meaningless, not necessarily the thing that
we are trying to measure.

>IQ subjects perform better than their peers at school, college, at go on
>to do better at their job.
>
They performed better because they were motivated. That same motivation made
them practice enough to be also good at IQ tests.

Some may get demotivated, later,  and not do that well (eg. one of the
guys with the highest IQs, in the world, bums around looking through
garbage bins all day).

>>It would be interesting to find out how recruitment psychologists who use
>>IQ tests are coping with the apparent drop in IQ over the last 20 years
>>due to decrease in practice of mental arithmetic, because of the invention
>>of the pocket calculator.
>
>There has actually been an increase in recorded IQ scores of the order of
>between .5 and 1.0 standard deviations over the later part of this century.
>
Tim, you need to look at the last 10-20 years to see the effect of
pocket calculators. You can't take figures integrated over half a
century.

Derek.
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From: roihar@cc1.crl.aecl.ca
Subject: RE: need IBD info
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:50:49 GMT

    Rich Zellich (zellich@nic.ddn.mil) used to maintain a list of lists
that exist primarily on the Internet. This was a couple of years ago 
that I got this list. At that time I sent a message with:
    "netinfo interest-groups.txt" in the SUBJECT field to
     service@nic.ddn.mil

    On this list was IBDlist which is still going strong. 

The moderator is Thomas Lapp.

Purpose(description): IBDlist is a moderated mailing lists which discusses
all aspects of Inflammatory Bowel Diseases, with particular emphasis on Crohn's
disease and Ulcerative Colitis. Anyone with an interest in these diseases, whether
direct or indirect is welcome. This list will also act as a clearinghouse for
information and discussion of current treatments, research, and other infor-
mation related to IBDs. This list is open to any interested party and is not 
restricted to those suffering from one of the diseases or directly linked to
IBDs in some other way. Professional (MEDICAL) comments are, of course, most
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The title is  IBDlist.

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From: Robin.Salmansohn@f715.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Robin Salmansohn)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Glycemic Reactions
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:36:27 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:273/715 - Ophiophile Maximus, Blue Bell PA

>from: coody@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu

 c> I am curious about hypoglycemia and it's symptoms.  At age 8 I was
 c> diagnosed as borderline diabetic and my diet was 
 c> adjusted accordingly.
 c> When I left home for school at 18, I naturally abused and neglected
 c> my diet until recently at age 36.  Currently I have returned to my
 c> old diet due to symptoms which resemble a "hangover"; nausea,
 c> dizzyness, headaches and etc.... these symptoms seem to come on
 c> from skipping a meal or consumption of some refined sugar to get
 c> me back on track (a sudden high and then a sudden low).  My doctor
 c> claims that there is nothing wrong with me, yet co-workers claim
 c> my symptoms are like those of an individual with hypoglycemia.
 c> Anyone with thoughts on this matter are welcome to respond, I
 c> am tired of feeling this way.
 
While not DIRECTLY answering your question, (I am not giving out medical 
advice); I am a medical researcher, and had conducted a
ten year investigation on the effects that certain drugs have on
some individuals with some medical problems that appear to cause
an intracereberal depression of glucose. So far, Dr. Theodore at NIH
has been able to confirm my preliminary findings in human volunteers
for the barbituates. Dr. Theodore had used FDG and P.E.T. scans.
I cannot say that this is the possible cause of the problem that you
say that you presented to your M.D., nor do I imply that s/he is incorrect, or 
that the information may even be of use to you (other
than curiosity).
In the cases of intra-cereberal hypoglycemia that had been confirmed,
as well as in my study, no evidence of any problems with glucose had
been disclosed using standard glucose tolerance tests.


 

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From: bobk@csn.org (Bob Kinne)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Is baloon angioplasty safe?
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:19:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Apr06.230124.27537@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>of the above took about 2 hours of my free time after work today.
>
>Best of luck to the lady who had an urgent need for some free advice.


It is unfortunate that Mr. Clark spent his two hours reciting
some very biased, inaccurate "folk medicine" arguments.

Angioplasties do benefit people.  Before I had mine, two years
ago, I could not exercise without serious angina (chest pain).
The blood supply to about 2/3 of my heart muscle was severely
restricted by a blockage that reduced the effective
cross-section of my LAD to about 3-5% of normal.  The blockage
was successfully cleared (shown by follow-up angiogram, etc)
and I have had no recurrance of symptoms.  This isn't an
isolated result, but is actually the most common end result of
angioplasty.

Arterial blockages are usually a combination of fatty deposits
and a rigid calcium matrix (hence "hardening of the artery").
The evidence that they can be significantly altered by diet or
other non-invasive techniques is very sketchy, and at best
only a small improvement is achieved.

Talk to a good cardiologist.  Learn the options, and the
possible end results.  Then decide.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Is baloon angioplasty safe?
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 00:11:05 GMT

In article <1992Apr09.223507.23150@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>Chelation therapy has been administered to over one million patients
>with cardiovascular disease. It has caused not one single fatality.

~It won't kill you" is no recommendation.  Actually, EDTA has a number
of toxic effects.  It can't be used cavalierly.

>Health-care professionals who discredit chelation therapy as a viable
>alternative to surgery should:
>
>      (1) demonstrate that the published clinical data favoring
>          chelation therapy has been misinterpreted;
>
>      (2) cite a published study that discredits chelation therapy.

This is old, old stuff which is rehashed here with some regularity.
In fact, Kingsley Morse went out of his way a year or so ago and did
provide some detailed reports which he transcribed here.  And then the
studies were taken apart by a few MD's who have the skills to read medical
literature critically, but that didn't stop Kingsley, the true believer,
and I predict it won't stop you.

When you're starting from a base of abject ignorance, evidence and
authority doesn't count for a whole lot.  You'd rather hold tight to
your $5.95 paperback.


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