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From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: best age to bread a female husky
Date: 15 Sep 92 15:30:15 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article <6746@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com> yzarn@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Philip Yzarn de Louraille) writes:
>
>A friend of mine as a 6 month old female husky. I have a 3-4 year old male
>husky.
>We were kicking the idea of breading them.

Your dogs should not be bred unless they conform to the standard of the breed, are
certified to be statistically free of several genetic disorders, and have working lines
in their pedigrees, in my opinion.  It is not something to be taken lightly.  The phrase 
"kicking it around" leaves me with the impression that not a great deal of thought 
has gone into it.  Ask yourselves *why* you want to breed, and why these two dogs.
What do you hope to accomplish?  What do you have in mind for the puppies?  What
have you done with the parents thus far?  This is not intended to be a flame.

>This may be a FAQ, but should we skip the first time when the female
>will go in heat or what?

Yes, at the very least.

>-- 
>  Philip Yzarn de Louraille                 Internet: yzarn@chevron.com
>  Research Support Division                 Unix & Open Systems
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Barbara S Withem <bwithem@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: Puppy Biting
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:58:33 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

From: loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:43:23 GMT
Subject: Re: miniature greyhounds
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

|At lunchtime today I was walking across campus when I saw the neatest dog!
|A crowd of people had gathered to watch this tiny little dog, running 
|FAST FAST FAST around the lawn.  The dog was a miniature greyhound.  He was
|so neat looking!  The owner told me his breed, but I didn't get a chance
|to ask her any more questions.  Can someone tell me about this breed?  Are
|they rare?  I have never seen a discussion of them here before.  Do they
|race these dogs like they race the big ones?  If so, is ther a rescue
|organization for them?  I'd love to have one of these dogs!
|
|Any info is appreciated.
|-Robin
----------

	Hello Robin,

	There are two breeds of dogs that you could be speaking about.
One is a Whippet and the second is the Italian Greyhound.  Both dogs can
run fast.  Although, the Italian Greyhound is not used in any racing.

	The Whippet is used in Straight, Oval Racing as well as Lure and
Open Field Coursing.  This breed is very popular to race.

	The sizes of the three breeds would be the following:

		Greyhound: No height limits, but generally above 25" at
  			   the shoulders and weighing above 60 lbs

		Whippet:   19 - 22 inches (Male), generally weighing 
			   between 20 and 60 pounds
	
		Itailan 
		Greyound: Below 15 inches, generally weighing below 15 pounds


From your description of its size, I would guess that you saw an Italian
Greyound.


	I hope this helps....Kirk

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: ldawes@news.cs.uah.edu (Lisa Dawes)
Subject: Re: Regarding My New Puppy and Some Nasty Articles
Reply-To: ldawes@uahcs2.UUCP (Lisa Dawes)
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - Univ. of Alabama in Huntsville
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 16:59:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.071458.8801@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com> williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Desperately seeking a major) writes:
>In article <1992Sep03.163009.29664@gateway.ssf-sys.DHL.COM>, cmoussav@ssf-sys.DHL.COM (Carla Moussavi) writes:
>> 
>> Hi,
>>   For anyone who has "flamed" me for owning my puppy, I'm not about to
>> apologize for owning my puppy! I am certainly not going to get rid of
>> her! I get up extra early to play with her, my husband goes home everyday
>> at lunch to see her, and she has LOTS of attention and exercise when we 
>> get home at night!  Your remarks are useless, mean-spirited and irrational.
>>   Before getting my puppy I talked with many people, including her  
>> veterinarian as to whether or not it was a problem regarding us both working.
>> I was assured that we could raise a happy, well-adjusted dog even though
>> we work, and our puppy IS happy and well-adjusted. 
>
>Of course it is possible to raise a happy, well-adjusted dog even though 
>a person isn't home for that dog the whole day!  Goodness, my husband and 
>I do that, and I think we have one of the most unusual schedules in the world,
>but our dogs are very well-adjusted, love people and probably get more
>attention than many dogs who have people home with them all day.  
>
>Kim

We have a well adjusted Siberian Husky and Lasa who were raised
with both my wife and I working.  I agree that those who work
and own pets probably take more time to spend with their pets
than those who stay home all day.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: Tip for the tight-pocketed
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:17:24 GMT


In article <1992Sep10.152811.14706@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, millios@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.l.millios) writes:
|> Just thought others out there would like to know - I saved myself
|> 30 bucks last night.
|> 
|> I took my 6 mo. old Chesapeake to the vet last month, and he
|> said it was time for her rabies shot.  He said, "I can give it
|> to you for 30 bucks, or you can call around and find a town
|> that's giving it for free..."
|> 
|> Naturally, I opted for free.
|> 
|> Not sure how this applies to nation-wide, tho.  But give it a shot.
|> Many vets aren't like this one, and aren't going to tell you that
|> you can get something for free elsewhere.
|> 
|> Bill

Lots of cities (Santa Fe included) hold low-cost or free shot clinics
periodically.  Check with local pet stores, animal shelters, etc.
I believe that the chain PetSmart hold them sometimes too, but I could
be wrong on that.  In Santa Fe, at least, Pet Vet Supply holds them
every few months.  Definitely worth it!

-- 

David G. Simmons
	
	"Pollution is not the problem with our environment. 
	It is the impurities in our air and water." 
		--Dan "Vice-President-Rain-Man" Quayl(e)

If I said it, LANL didn't... 

-- 

David G. Simmons
	
	"Pollution is not the problem with our environment.
From: young@alw.nih.gov
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: pit bull?
Date: 8 Sep 1992 06:24:07 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Sep6.064753.28211@infonode.ingr.com> you write:
|> 
|> 
|> >Please excuse my ignorance here.
|> >Can somebody kindly explain to me the difference 
|> >between a Pit Bull and a Staffordshire Terrier.
|> 
|> 
|> There are two kinds of Staffordshire Terriers:  The Staffordshire
|> Bull Terrier and the American Staffordshire Terrier.  The former
|> is smaller, usually 30-40 lbs, and the latter is larger, 50-65 lbs.
|> Both breeds were once used for fighting, but they have not been bred
|> for fighting in many decades.  They are both recognized by the AKC,
|> and are bred for show and companion purposes.  AKC conformation showing
|> has had a positive effect on these breeds.  To compete in the ring,
|> a Staffie must get into the ring with other dogs (Staffs of the same
|> sex in the breed ring, other terriers in the group ring) and show
|> no signs of aggression.  He must allow a stranger (the judge) to touch
|> his testicles without showing any aggression.  He must spend lots of
|> time on the crowded show floor with grownups, kids, and all kinds of dogs
|> brushing by him.  If a dog cannot do this, he cannot be shown and therefore
|> cannot win.  If he cannot win, he cannot breed.
|>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Not to be a smart-a** but,
It'd be a great world if this were really the case.


-- 
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	jy
	young@heart.dcrt.nih.gov
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From: srj@key.COM (Scott R. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets
Subject: Looking for a good Vet... [Sunnyvale area]
Keywords: vet new dog spitz help
Date: 9 Sep 92 05:53:49 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced Systems, Fremont CA

As the new owner of a American Eskimo/Border Collie mutt, I now find myself
covered with hair and looking for a Vet.  We got Tasha from the Humane Society,
and they'll pick up the tab on the first treatment.

I don't much care whether or not the Vet accepts the Humane Society coupon,
but I'd like to make sure I get a good Vet.  The dog has just been spayed,
and needs a general once-over as well.

Does anyone have any recommendations?  Closest would be Mary and Remington,
in Sunnyvale.

thanks a lot,



-- 
  --srj           A lunatic is merely a minority of one.
       o_O                                                            --Orwell
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: Beverly Taylor <BTAYLOR@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject: Pet Lover/Humane Society NEEDS INFO
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 14:37:57 GMT

I am seeking any information on books, organizations, foundations, etc.
to seek funding to keep our animal shelter in operation.  I have
subscribed to the AR-TALK list but would appreciate any information you
can pass my way.  Thank you in-advance for your help.

Bev Taylor
Chico, California
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller)
Subject: Re: best age to bread a female husky
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:48:17 GMT

In article <6746@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com> yzarn@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com (Philip Yzarn de Louraille) writes:
>
>A friend of mine as a 6 month old female husky. I have a 3-4 year old male
>husky.
>We were kicking the idea of breading them.
	After you bread them, are you going to deep fry them?  Personally,
I prefer to make doggy-ka-bobs with my dogs, but breading them and deep
frying them is certainly another option.

	Just kidding--about a subject that I don't actually find amusing.
Please, please, please don't casually breed your dogs.  Trust me, there are
many, many, many educated breeders of huskies out there that will do a much
better job of it than you can possibly do without spending a lot of time
and energy learning about dog genetics, pedigrees, breeding (that is, of
course the correct spelling), and whelping puppies.

>This may be a FAQ, but should we skip the first time when the female
>will go in heat or what?
	NEVER breed the female the first heat cycle, in fact, it is highly
recommended that you wait until the bitch is two years old.

>What would be best?
	To forget the idea all-together unless you are willing to really
learn about what you are doing.  Have you even thought about what you would
do with the puppies?  You are likely to have 8-12 puppies that need HOMES,
good homes.  Do you know 12 people that will take a puppy off your hands
and provide it with a good home, much less pay you for that privelege.
Have you had health checks done on the parents?  Are they healthy?  Are
they free from dysplasia or other bone or joint abnormalities?  Are they
free from other hereditary problems?  Will breeding these two dogs together
advance the breed of Siberian huskies or is it merely a whim?  Can you and
your friend afford to keep and raise and love the puppies if you can't find
homes for them?  Or will the puppies end up in the pound to be put down?

I'm sorry to come down on you so hard, but this is an extremely important
issue.  You will be creating LIFE and that makes you responsible for it.


>Thank you.
>-- 
>  Philip Yzarn de Louraille                 Internet: yzarn@chevron.com
>  Research Support Division                 Unix & Open Systems
>  Chevron Information & Technology Co.      Tel: (310) 694-9232
>  P.O. Box 446, La Habra, CA 90633-0446     Fax: (310) 694-7709


--
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Cibola Labradors            Field * Show * Fun                    415/326-5309
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	            Campbellcroft Cibola Rosette -- Rosie
From: mlhb@mammoth.dr.att.com (Sky Warrior)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog food reviews?
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:01:14 GMT

Mushing usually has a review of dog food (of course for sled dogs) around
June/July issues.

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From: joe@bulldog.sybase.com (Joseph Weinstein)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: The best magazine about working dogs: Dog Sports Magazine
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:33:25 GMT
Reply-To: joe@bulldog.sybase.com (Joseph Weinstein)
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

For all of you who enjoy working breeds, and who are interested
in the work or sports in which these dogs are participating, I
heartily recommend _DogSports Magazine_, a monthly with articles
by experts around the world. There is regular coverage of:

Police work (tracking, apprehension, narcotics detection and bomb detection)
Search and Rescue
Therapy work
Schutzhund
Ring Sport
Obedience
Breeding and genetics
The Politics of working breeds
Weight pulling
Agility
Sledding
Dogs and the law
Press and Media paranoia

Rotties, GSDs, Dobies, Malinois, Pits & AmStaffs
Bouviers, Filas, BloodHounds, certified mutts etc.

There is very little advertising, and strong opinions are welcome in the
readers letters. The expert interviews are well done and usually long and
detailed as opposed to the editted snippets we get in packaged articles
in other magazines.

Call DogSports Magazine:	(707) 745-6897
				$44/year VISA, MC, Discover accepted
				(Calif. residents add sales tax)

	or write:		627 Jennings Av.
		 		Vallejo, California 94591

>>> ADDED PLUS:	If you mention that Joe Weinstein referred you, I might
>>>		get my subscription extended! :-)
>>>		Don't mention me if it feels like I'm just bucking for
>>>		free issues. I really feel like this magazine is the
>>>		collective voice of working dog enthusiasts. joe

Disclaimer:	I have no connection with the magazine or publisher,
		save as an enthusiastic subscriber.
--
Joseph Weinstein  Sybase - 1650 65th Street, Emeryville Ca 94608
		  joe@sybase.com   sun!sybase!joe   510-596-3620
Disclaimer:	  This might not even be *my* opinion! I may have
                  changed my mind.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Subject: Re: rawhide question
Reply-To: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:34:23 GMT

In article <2AB62250.16286@ics.uci.edu> tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
>In <1992Sep15.153022.9394@xyzoom.info.com> rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach) writes:
>
>>Rawhide is indigestible, right?  So if a dog ingests rawhide, it will
>>not contribute to weight gain?
>
>Well, that's not really the problem.  The problem is that rawhide can
>cause your dog to choke (especially if it undoes one knot, swallows
>that end and is then plugged by the remaining knot).  Some dogs wind
>up with digestive upsets because they can neither digest nor pass the
>rawhide.  If you're looking for low-cal treats, try broccoli or
>cauliflour stems, carrots, etc.

I would like to find something that is chewable over a period of
time--like a few hours--yet not contribute to weight gain, and safer
than rawhide.  I am away from home all day and would like to know that
the dogs are occupied....what sort of real meat-bone would be safe?

(and, just to be honest, I am still curious to know if rawhide is
digestible or not)

Regards-
-Rob
-- 
Rob Lingelbach KB6CUN | 2660 Hollyridge Dr LA CA 90068 213 464 6266 (voice) 
rob@xyzoom.info.com   | "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or 
robl@netcom.com       |  cat are not the better for it."  --Abraham Lincoln
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David Simmons)
Subject: Re: Inappropriate owners
Originator: davids@feynman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:00:14 GMT


In article <8SEP92.14081637@wums.wustl.edu>, trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu writes:
|> Hello- 
|>       A friend of mine has been battleing this dilemma..I thought some 
|> feedback from the gang would be good.  My friend apparently has a great
|> deal of problems with another family in the cub scouts (or something)
|> who consistantly bring their nervous, out of control, untrained
|> dobe to scout functions.  She says most of the kids and half the adults
|> are afraid of this dog.  She realizes  it's not the dogs fault but the
|> owners and apparently they are having quite a problem getting them to keep him
|> home.  As I understand it the dog is not really mean but obviously un-
|> comfortable witha a bunch of rowdy kids(who isn't?).  Anyway another 
|> friend suggested slipping the dog some ex-lax in order to make things very 
|> difficult for the owner-hoping the owner would associate these trips 
|> with diareah for the dog and thus leave him home.  Personally I would just
|> demand that they leave the dog home or refuse them admittance to what-
|> ever function but I guess no one wants to do that.  How 'bout it gang?
|> What do you do in a situation like this where the dogs presence is not
|> appropriate but not really the dogs fault?  
|> Thanks in advance
|> Beverly
|> Wash Univ. Med School, St. Louis

I would say that you do not take it out on the dog (ie the Ex-Lax example),
but talk to the owners.  The suggestion of not allowing them to attend
a function if they bring the dog sounds good to me.  If no one is willing
to actually *say* anything to these people, then how can they be expected
to really *know* what the problem is?  We all do this with our dogs all the time,
don't we?  If we want something from them, we have to *teach* them what we
want, or don't want.

Just my opinion, but if no one is willing to actually stand up to these
people and stop the inapropriate behavior of bringing the dog along all
the time, then I wouldn't expect anything to change.
-- 

David G. Simmons
	
	"Pollution is not the problem with our environment. 
	It is the impurities in our air and water." 
		--Dan "Vice-President-Rain-Man" Quayl(e)

If I said it, LANL didn't... 

-- 

David G. Simmons
	
	"Pollution is not the problem with our environment. 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Subject: Diamond Dog Food
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:05:25 GMT



Hi Everyone!

With all this talk of dog foods, I said that we had fed our Cocker
SD, but she had problems with it so we are now feeding her 
Nutro Max which agrees with her. This Friday we are going to
be picking up our little black GSD, Siegfried, and we wanted to
wean him off of what they had been feeding him to Nutro puppy
then later to what the Cocker's eating, thus making it easier for
us. Yet, the breeders recommend feeding him some brand of
dog food called Diamond which you can get 50 lbs for $20. They
said it's really high in beef fat content. So, my question is,
does anyone know anything about Diamond dog food and if 
the high fat content would be bad for him? They've got BIG
 muscular dogs...the sire was 140 lbs with a HUGE chest...
like over a foot, easily...no fat on him! I'm going to talk
to my vet Friday when we take the pup over for his physical
right after we pick him up, but was wondering if anyone had
heard anything about it. I really don't want to buy a 50 lbs
bag of the stuff...there really isn't any place to store it at
our place where the animals can't get into it and if it's as
yummy as they say it is, I can imagine them tearing the bag
open while we're gone....(we live in a townhouse, no garage)

Thanks in advance!

Kay Schlumpf
 
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Wife to Peter, the Patient; Mommy to Baeki, the Happy Cocker Spaniel
and Siegfried, the soon-to-arrive Cuddly Black German Shepard; 
Owned by Pixel, the Cuddly Siamese and Dante, the Quilter's Cat. Also
Quilter, Collector of Model Horses, and Horse Fiend! 
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kathy_buetow@QMS1.life.uiuc.edu (Kathy Buetow)
Subject: Re: Show points and the mass of confusion
Followup-To: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 19:43:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep6.034808.4666@ugc.uucp>, geoff@ugc.uucp (Geoff Coleman)
wrote:
> 
> >> KB>>
> >> KB>>    - To up the number of entries so as to help increase the number of
> >> KB>>      points available to be won.
> >> KB>>
> 
> 	^^^^^^^
> 		You mean like the guy who showed up with his DEAD Chow
> 	    dog so that his friend could get the extra point he needed to
> 	    finish at the show.
> 		The night befor the show the guy's chow died. So he froze
> 	    him in a stacked position walked into the ring with him and set him
> 	    down. He then told the judge that his dog wasn't feeling well 
> 	    picked him up and left. But because he was in the ring he was 
> 	    counted in the points calculation.
> 
> 
> Geoff Coleman

Sorry Geoff....but *NO WAY* !! 

 Your friend may have joked about it but I'm afraid that as much 
as we may moan and groan about judges being old and senile or 
blind as bats (kinda the way baseball fans moan and groan about 
umpires......particularly when their team is losing)  nobody but 
nobody could not get away with a dead dog in the ring !!

 If the dog was entered and left the ring or was excused 
(I've seen dogs excused for lack of merit......but,  for lack
of a pulse ? *giggle*) then it would  be so marked in the judges 
book and the dog would *not* be counted as having competed
and thus not be used to calculate points.

 It sounds like your friend told you one heck of a fish story (and
you swallowed it hook line and sinker)  !!

Cheers !
Kathy 
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"Australian Cattle Dogs are not just a breed....they're a way of life !!!"