HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Subject: Re: Kodak Photo CD
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:00:15 GMT

Michael B. Johnson writes

> The top two, which are the most interesting ones, are encoded in
> such a way that you (for the most part) need software from Kodak
> to read the images.  I say for the most part, because this also is
> not terribly difficult to write software to get at, but (and this
> is where the flame war erupted elsewhere) people on the net have
> written software to do this, and Kodak has warned them that selling
> this software will probably violate patents they have.

Maybe it's time for GNUPhoto?

Give away the object, sell the UI or the filter to TIFF...

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From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT edu CD-ROM (WasWhat happened to NeXTOnCampus?)
Date: 7 Nov 1992 18:53:49 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


Dean Johnson writes
>... I just received my copy of the NeXT  
> Educational CD-ROM ...	     

Where can a table of contents for this CD-ROM be obtained?  Before ordering,
I'd like to know what I'm getting, so even a brief description of its contents
would be helpful.
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Email: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU                                Voice: (408)335-1154
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: stez@sel.sub.org (Johannes Stezenbach)
Subject: cursor keys in csh (editmode=emacs)
Keywords: cursor keys in csh
Organization: ALCATEL SEL LP/STA
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 12:28:31 GMT


I ve set editmode=emacs in a csh running in Terminal.app (NS3.0)
and I want to use the cursor keys for parsing through the history and
command line editing.

I tried to use  bind-to-key PreviousHistEntry ... , but I don t know
what what to enter in the  key  field of the bind-to-key function.

Please help !

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Re: NeXT edu CD-ROM (WasWhat happened to NeXTOnCampus?)
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:11:02 GMT

In article <1dh3btINNbvr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell) writes:
>
>Dean Johnson writes
>>... I just received my copy of the NeXT  
>> Educational CD-ROM ...	     
>
>Where can a table of contents for this CD-ROM be obtained?  Before ordering,
>I'd like to know what I'm getting, so even a brief description of its contents
>would be helpful.
>-- 

	There is an index on the CD. I'll submit it to sonata tonight (11/10),
	so look for it later this week.

	Charlie

>
>Art Isbell                                                      Cubic Solutions
>NeXT Registered Developer #745         NeXT software development and consulting
>Email: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU                                Voice: (408)335-1154
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From: mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: re: New SUN's, Bad news for NeXT?
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:30:52 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
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Mime-Version: 1.0

I think I said, about two years ago, that NeXT has to decide whether it is a
hardware company or a software company.  NeXT's policy was to lock its
customer base into a single hardware and software platform.  You could not run
NeXTSTEP on anything other than a NeXT computer, and you couldn't run anything
other than NeXTSTEP on a NeXT computer.

NeXT made a step in the right direction with NeXTSTEP/486, but IMHO going
after the NT juggernaut is more for public relations than for profitability.
NeXTSTEP/486 is simply too expensive and the market perception of NeXT as a
company compared to Microsoft does not support a serious competition.

NeXT has still not done anything about the ``you can't run anything other than
NeXTSTEP on a NeXT computer'' problem.  Screams of ``why would you want to do
this'' aside, the fact is that NeXT withholds programming documentation about
its hardware.  Porting or developing an alterate operating system to NeXT
hardware is not feasible.

This all was very much in the 1980's idiom.  Every major vendor did this, and
are now backtracking.  DEC has announced with Alpha that ``DEC will sell
whatever the customer wants to buy'' without insisting that the customer buy
what he doesn't want.  They'll sell software (including sources) without
requiring hardware purchases, and they'll sell hardware (down to the chip
level) without requiring software purchases.  DEC recently gave away a very
impressive freeware CD-ROM, including a nice ``install to hard disk'' feature
that just builds the directory structure and symbolic links to the actual
data (there was supposed to be this in NeXTSTEP 3.0, but I didn't see it).
What's more, DEC's freeware CD-ROM includes sources; although they supply
binaries for RISC/Ultrix everything is designed so you can easily rebuild on
your own local platform.  There's a lot of good stuff on it.

Best yet, DEC's freeware CD-ROM is free.  NeXT charges you for their
advertising; consider the $25 fee for the ``educational software'' CD-ROM and
the fees for the videotapes of the Steve Jobs dog&pony roadshows.  It's like
paying for a NeXT T-shirt -- *why* would anyone want to pay to advertise a
company's product?

I hope NeXT sees the light.  NeXT is behaving a lot better than they were two
years ago, but there's still a long way to go.  Somehow, going up again SUN --
a vendor which is justifiably hated by lots of people -- doesn't inspire much
confidence.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gbrown@raven.ctr.columbia.edu (Glenn Brown)
Subject: Re: MATLAB (the missing piece)
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 10:14:23 GMT
X-Posted-From: raven.ctr.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Personally, I think that considering the size of the NeXT market, we  
should be thankful that MATLAB will be ported to the NeXT at all.  The  
software companies are going to write for sun sparcstations (and therefore  
X, the prefered windowing system for sparcs) before NeXTs as a matter of  
course, and the only reason there will be a port the small NeXT market is  
that the NeXT also runs X on unix and is therefore easy to port to.

Obviously, NeXTstep is a far better windowing system than X:  It far  
easier from a programming point of view (though it is harder to customize  
than the X window managers). NeXT has the right idea:  Get NeXTstep  
running on as many machines as possible and then more software will be  
ported to NeXTstep.  This is a big reason NeXTstep is now running on  
486's.  Personally, I think that NeXTstep should be ported to sparcs,  
also.  That would be best for the world of users... though it might not be  
best for NeXT.

--Glenn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Resource Forks with AppleShare
From: cgn@waikato.ac.nz (Craig Nevill-Manning)
Date: 8 Nov 1992 21:14:59 GMT
Reply-To: cgn@waikato.ac.nz
Distribution: world
Organization: CompSci, U of Waikato, New Zealand
Keywords: Resource, Forks, AppleShare, NextStep 3.0
NNTP-Posting-Host: kauri.cs.waikato.ac.nz

Does anyone know how to configure the NeXT so that resource forks show up  
in the browser when browsing Mac servers?

There's an attribute in NetInfo called ResourceForks, which is set to  
'HIDDEN'.  In the ashared (AppleShare daemon) binary, there is the string  
'SHOWN' next to 'Resource Forks', so I tried changing it to SHOWN in  
NetInfo, but to no avail.

Any ideas, anyone?

craig
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari)
Subject: Amiga / Mac and NeXTStep..
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
..path: rsrodger
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 14:56:22 GMT

	On a different note (that is, somethign other than NS486), 
	has anyone considered that NeXT ought to do a quickie port
	of NS486 to the Amiga (the A4000 is 68040, and there are
	a number of 68040 A3000's...) and to the Mac (the 
	Quads).. 

	I can't imagine that such a port would be terribly 
	difficult--_especially_ the port to the Mac.  

	Maybe a port to the Atari (ha ha ha) Falcon (it does, 
	after all, have a DSP on board).. 

	This would seem to me to be a quick and easy way to 
	increase the possible market share for NeXT, and given
	that the a Mac 950 is not all to different from
	a station (but with better video options) and is
	about equal in price range (i.e. not going to cause the
	NeXT-hardware-sales death that NS486 will)--it would
	seem to be a very logical path to take.

	The Amiga?  Well, the video hardware there might actually
	halp make up for some of the speed problems of NS3.0...

	How long could it take?  A few months?

	Anyone?

	
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: elmar@knipp.en.open.de (Elmar Knipp)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 08:52:17 GMT
Organization: Private/FRG
Subject: Re: adding file suffix

paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch) writes:

>In article <721285254.AA00000@blkcat.UUCP>  
>David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky) writes:
>> How about moving them all into a single sub-directory, opening a  
>terminal shell,
>> moving to the aforementioned directory, and using a command to the  
>effect of "mv
>> * *.tiff"

>Bad move.  This is an excellent way to lose a lot of files.  Please use  
>one of the foreach methods described earlier.

In comp.sources there exist a program called "ren". It just
does the work.

>Paul
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From: mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek)
Subject: Re: Mac Powerbook Connectivity
Organization: Penn State Center for Academic Computing
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 15:44:03 GMT

In article <6773@news.duke.edu> dblakele@hercules.acpub.duke.edu writes:
> Greetings,
> 
> On a current grant/project I'm involved with, our Primary Investigator
> has deemed that we use Macintosh's as our presentation standard for 
> the meetings.  (I can use the NeXT, as long as it can send output to
> a Mac)  As of late, I've been getting rather symbiotic with a PowerBook
> 170 on loan from the project office to review Medline abstracts.  Now,
> somebody here at Duke was spreading rumors that they had successfully
> hooked a Mac PowerBook up to their NeXT.  That sounds intriguing, since
> I've got a copy of Executor (a nod to all the nice folks at ARDI,  
especially
> Cliff Matthews).
> 
> Has anybody had any luck or thoughts on doing this?  If so, drop me a  
line
> down south (or north depending on where you are).  Thanx.
> 
> Peace
> 
> 
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<disclaim.h>   |


I'm using MacLinkPlus/PC from DataViz to connect my NeXTstation and  
Powerbook 170 via their supplied cable. The nice thing about this product  
is the translators so I can get (for example) from FrameMaker on my NeXT  
and Mac to WordPerfect for those unenlightened souls who use MS-DOS. I  
have had some problems receiving large data files from the NeXT via the  
cable which DataViz was unable to resolve (although, the Mac->NeXT  
transfer has always worked); supposedly the Powerbooks have a glitch in  
their serial ports which I suspect may be the problem. Hmm,...  to get  
around the transfer problem I just used a DOS-formatted disk as the  
transfer medium but I suppose I should try hooking the Powerbook to the  
NeXT via the printer port and see if the problem goes away....

For what it's worth,

Mark.
--
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Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB
Applied Research Lab/Penn State
P.O. Box 30
State College, PA 16804

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bbum@object.com (Bill Bumgarner)
Subject: Re: RenderMan-High resolution rendering?
Organization: Objective Technologies,Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 17:06:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.052457.27074@news.media.mit.edu> wave@waits.media.mit.edu  
(Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> Michael B. Johnson writes
> > Charles Fletcher writes
> > 
<< ... bunch of useful goo deleted ... >>
> hope this has been useful...

As a further tip, if you notice a lot of jaggy aliasing along the edgies of  
various objects in your scene, a ShadingRate below 1 will often help...

But not always;  I have found that grabbing the PixelSamples line and modifying  
it from 1 1 to 2 2 works wonders for getting rid of jaggies; if i'm not  
mistaken, 2 2 means that each pixel will be oversampled 4x and the result will  
be anti-aliased. IE: To do a single large frame of the animation in the info  
panel of SmartFields, I put the following at the top of one of the rib files  
(removing the original commands from within the file):

Display "BigFrame.tiff" "file" "rgba"
Format 800 800 1.000000
ShadingRate .25
PixelSamples 2 2

## rest of rib removed....

When rendering large DPI images, what you are effectively doing is changing the  
Format to some multiple of the original images size.... For example, over the  
summer we were rendering the word "NeXT" for NeXTWorld extra (you may remember  
it-- it was on the cover with a fade between wood and blue_marble) at 400dpi  
for the printers... the original image was under 500x300 (about 2.5" by 1.5" or  
so), but when rendered at 400 dpi, it was 1900 x 1000 (!!!!) which took a hell  
of a long time to render...

I'm not sure if the low-level rendering engine is bright enough to write the  
correct numbers into the resulting TIFF file's DPI fields... probably not.


> --
> 
> -->  Michael B. Johnson
> -->  MIT Media Lab      --  Computer Graphics & Animation Group
> -->  (617) 253-0663     --  wave@media-lab.media.mit.edu
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From: fields@pacvax.UUCP (Daniel A. Fields)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Format.dat for Fujitsu 2266MA
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:01:55 GMT
Organization: Pacer Software Inc., Westborough, MA USA

Does anyone have a format.dat entry for the Fujitsu 2266Ma 1 gig drive?

Thanks
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: oliverm@nevada.edu (Moises Oliveira)
Subject: Re: Distinguishing 3.0 binaries
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:20:44 GMT

In article <BxIMsr.LKG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) writes:
>Could anyone please tell me an easy way to tell (on a 3.0
>system) whether a binary is 3.0 only or 2.x also.
>

>I'm having a devil of a time getting submitters to tell me
>and I'm tired of sending out form letters (especially to
>those who don't give me Copyable email addresses @*#!).  I
>guess I'll change the submissions README to stress these
>things. 
>

Yes please do so, and while you're at it, emphasize that if they are
going to provide binaries, the should "make install" to create
a stripped version.

>In related news, thanks for being patient (well, most of
>you anyway :-) ).  I've been out of the office a lot lately
>fixing other people's machines and haven't had much time
>to manage the Archives.  Though we still have a few NeXTs
>that appear to be cursed, things are settling down. 
>

We apprecaite it!

>If you could post under this title or email to
>archive-management@nova.cc.purdue.edu it'd be much
>appreciated.  Thanks everyone! 
>
>Allen B (Blowing the dust off his Archivist's hat)

Since you're cleaning up, the least I can do is help.  the program you need to
use is called otool, and comes with the extended release.

type otool -L /LocalApps/Local/Viewer  (or whatever the app name is)
a 2.x app will return
        /usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib (minor version 52)
        /usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib (minor version 44)
 (note the VERSION numbers, 52 and 44 for 2.x)
There may be other shared libraries listed but those two will be present
in every NeXTSTEP app.  (and some non apps)

a 3.0 system will return 
        /usr/shlib/libMedia_s.A.shlib (minor version 12)
        /usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib (minor version 57)
        /usr/shlib/libsys_s.B.shlib (minor version 55)

Note that the version number is up to 57 and 55, and a new library libMedia
has been added.

--enjoy




Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: andrew@cubetech.com
Subject: Re: Distinguishing 3.0 binaries
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:34:09 GMT

In article <BxIMsr.LKG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) writes:
>Could anyone please tell me an easy way to tell (on a 3.0
>system) whether a binary is 3.0 only or 2.x also.

The easiest way to tell is by the nib files.  3.0 nib files are
actually file-packages.  So select a nib file and pull up the
attributes inspector.  If the compute size button is not dimmed, then
it's a 3.0 app.


andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola)
Subject: Installing fonts (Summary)
Reply-To: spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 22:02:02 GMT

[I'm sorry if this is a repeat; NG crashed on me this morning, so I  
doubt my earlier post got out]

Thanks to all the people who posted or emailed in response to my post  
on problems installing fonts.

This seems to work:

As root
1. place fonts in /LocalLibrary/Fonts
2. run buildafmdir /LocalLibrary/Fonts
3. run cacheAFMData /LocalLibrary/Fonts
4. make sure all the permissions are set so that everybody can read  
both the .font file _and_ the files inside the .font folder; for  
example:
	drwxr-xr-x  2 root        1024 Feb  8  1992 Alison.font/
and
	-rw-r--r--  1 root       48588 Jan  8  1992 Alison
	-rw-r--r--  1 root        6597 Oct  8 00:28 Alison.afm
	-rw-r-----  1 root         979 Jan  8  1992 Alison.readme
The following ensures that the permissions are correct:
	chmod uog+r /LocalApps/Fonts/*.font/*

You can also do all this as yourself, if you place the fonts in  
~/Library/Fonts.

The permissions problem in Step 4 in particular seems to have caused  
a lot of grief (it was my problem).

In general, I remain of the opinion that a 4-step process involving  
command-line operations simply isn't the NeXTSTEP way of doing  
things.

--
-
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Food Research Institute, Stanford University
spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
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From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTColor Printer -- MAJOR DISSAPOINTMENT !!! + 600dpi?
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:04:35 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management


I just bought and read the  PC-Magazine annual  printer survey.  It looks like
NeXT is falling behind  in its printer  offerings.  600dpi   is  now  the  new
high-end PC  mono-printer standard  based  on  a new  Canon P-270 engine (e.g.
HP-LJ4), and the HP paint-jet XL300 outperformed the Canon BJC-800.

So:
	[1] Has anyone tried  to hook up a Paint Jet or even a DeskJet C500?
	Is it plug and play?

	[2] This question is most important for me:
	**	To  make presentation  slides, is  there  a way  I
	**	could save a NeXT color image to a file  and print
	**	it off a PC  with an HP 500 C?  Or print it off an
	**	arbitrary Color laser jet printers, which I presume
	**	would be much easier.              (Are there some
	**	print-shops in the West-LA area  where I could  go
	**	and pay to print a few slides?)

	[3] For curiosity, has anyone hooked up an HP-LJ4? Can my NeXT
	communicate with the HP-LJ4 through its very-high-speed
	parallel port (e.g., through the DSP port)?

/Ivo Welch

PS:  Anyone  noticed? NeXT  screens are  no  longer high-end, either,  because
1280*1024 on-screen has  become a new  (very) high-end PC screen standard. I'd
love to get crisper text.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Subject: Next Monitor advice needed
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 05:16:22 GMT


Its looks like the insurance claim is comming through on my slightly broken
Next 21 inc monitor that I run on a NeXT Colorstation (non-turbo)

So I need some advice on what to purchase next.

Firstly, if anybody has pricing for the 21 in monitor in the UK can they
get back to me ASAP.

OK in the event that the monitor is too overpriced in the UK, I will be looking
at purchasing a suitable unit (power supply and all that jazz) in the states.

Basically what I am after is a monitor that is slightly smaller ie. less like
to get damaged in freight and maintains or enhances the picture quality of
my existing monitor.

Pricing information would be especially appreciated.

Cheers.
From: stein@sionext.uio.no (Stein Onsrud)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Kodak Photo CD
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:42:34 GMT
Reply-To: Stein_Onsrud@siodata.uio.no
Organization: University of Oslo

Are there anyone out there on the network, that knows anything about  
support for the Kodak PhotoCD system on the NeXT Platform. I understand  
that Sony will very soon ship a CD player that supports the multisession  
format from Kodak/Phillips, will this player ship as a NeXT Player ?
On the PC and mac platforms there is allready a number of Software vendors  
that either already supports the format or say they will. What about  
software on the NeXT ?


Stein Onsrud
SiO Data
Norway
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Choosing csn.announce moderator
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:30:48 GMT
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft

In article <1dciijINNlr9@stephen.cs.ubc.ca> sritchie@cs.ubc.ca (Stuart  
Ritchie) writes:
> Now that Todd is gone, do you think we'll ever see SimCity?

Or get support for LockOut?

Gordon
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