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From: Diane.Charrett@p0.f51.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Diane Charrett)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Pick Me Up
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 19:21:44 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/51.0 - SaskTel P.A.C.M.I.D, Prince Albert Sask

Hello, for any teachers out there who may be going through a "Why in the world am I doing this??" phase, I was just reading through a copy of a Life Magazine which was written in the Nov 1991 issue, Vol 14,#14.  It is great fro putting your job into perspective, at least it was for me.
 
The quote the article ended with was:
 
"A teacher affects eternity; he can never tell where his influence 
stops."
 
Enjoy!



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From: Elizabeth.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Elizabeth Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: We need new NEWS!!
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 01:27:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

JR=8>Heikki,

JR=8>HK> Finland's national tv, channel 1, has started a totally new news
  =8>HK> program, a snapshot once a week made by young children. News
  =8>HK> achieved, selected, edited and presented in a tv studio by that
  =8>HK> team of elementary aged children.
  =8>HK>
  =8>HK> They are not just news for other children but news and young
  =8>HK> editors points of views to anything important happening in our
  =8>HK> world to any people.

JR=8>This sounds like a wonderful project!
Julie and Heikki, I am jumping in here but I too am interested in this
idea and am asking the same questions of you Heikki, as Julie is. I am
really interested in finding interesting things for students to get
involved in, rather than pen-pal activity. I would like students to feel
there was a defined purpose to joining in. Hope to hear ideas.
from an enthusiastic novice, Liz Probert, Pakuranga College, NZ.
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From: John.Rappold@f30.n279.z1.fidonet.org (John Rappold)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: AppleTalk & K12
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:18:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:279/30 - Dawson-Bryant High , Huntington WV

For those of you running a BBS that ties into your Appletalk network I have a couple of questions:

1. How do you transfer files from the BBS to the Appletalk Network. Is there
   software that allows access from the server, or do you have to put message
   bases and software on each computer?

2. What software do you use on Appletalk for messaging?

3. Are you able to keep "teacher only" areas secure?

Thanks in advance for any help.

Later,

John


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From: Tom.Winn@p1.f10.n3401.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Winn)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: K12map (final)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 16:17:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3401/10.1 - The HOLE in the WAL, Mount Vernon WA

 FW> So it was, but nobody seems to know it here in holland. These past
 FW> weeks i saw no dutchmen entering any message, so hereby my official
 FW> entering this area.
Hi Frank,
  We did have snother Duchman on this board.  Right now, he's taking some
time away from such mundane things as computers, but I suppose we could
stand to have TWO Dutchmen <grin>, so welcome to the netwaves and we hope
to learn about the good things you people do in education.

  Some time ago, we had a Dutch girl visiting here, and she said one major
difference in the education system there is that a teacher gets a group of
kids in one grade, then follows them for two or three years.  Is this
still the case?  If so, how long do you follow kids, and in what grades
does it happen?
  ...Tom, La Conner, WA, USA


 * Freddie 1.2 * Yes, we CAN have the best education system in the world!



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From: Soozi.Miller@f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Soozi Miller)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Teaching kids to read
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:22:03 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT


* In a message originally to All, Elahe Khorasani said:
 > From: elahe@watson.ibm.com (Elahe Khorasani)
 >    Does anyone have any experience in different methods of
 >    teaching small children how to read? What do you think
 >    about Whole Language vs. Phonics for a 5 year old who has
 >    just started to learn?  If he is being taught at school
 >    with W.L. approach, and at home with Phonics, would it be
 >    confusing, or they enhance each other?
    The responses you have received are really wonderful, for truely a child does need both to attack those harder unknown words.  Phonics workbooks, however, are not really an answer...though for a parent they are easy to get ahold of and use.  I sure hope that this isn't about Hooked On Phonics, because I think that program is more hype than help.  Soozi


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From: Susan.Baird@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Susan Baird)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: BACK TO YOU
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:31:28 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Wow, you spend as much time on here as I do!! Your name sounds vaguely 
familiar. I've always been in the elementary system here and in nova scotia.
I've heard about the scheduling in the high schools and thought some 
adjustments were being made! when you're away for a year you never do quite 
catch up with all the details.If you're interested in Australia, you should 
seriously consider an exchange. My family all went with me and had a year to 
remember. It's an exciting challenge to teach in another country.I better 
sign off before my time runs out. so long, Sue

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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Off-line Reader Information?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:55:41 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

In a message of <24 Jan 93  10:40:58>, Julie Rosenoff (1:346/6) writes:

 JR>In September I read an article you posted on off-line readers.
 JR>
 JR>could you or someone give me information on ones for MacIntoshes?
 JR>
 JR>Thanks!
 JR>Julie
 JR>
 JR>--- Tabby 3.0
 JR> * Origin: MACS BBS - Spokane, WA - (509) 924-5364  (HST/DS) (1:346/6)

You are calling from a bbs that is a MAC BBS, surely someone there must know  
about off-line readers for the Mac. 



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From: Iain.Macpherson@f405.n622.z3.fidonet.org (Iain Macpherson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Sadistic Students
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 01:29:06 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:622/405

CH>I was nervous about it but am very pleased with the process and
CH>will continue the procedure in the future.  If anything, the
CH>kids were more than fair and, perhaps, more strict than I would
CH>have been.

       I have noticed this tendency while doing the same sort of rule-establisment. Cruel little beggars some of them.

       Kids think up the cruelest, most devious punishments for the most minor of indiscretions.


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From: Iain.Macpherson@f405.n622.z3.fidonet.org (Iain Macpherson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Teaching kids to read
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 06:44:34 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:622/405

EK>   Does anyone have any experience in different methods of
EK>   teaching small children how to read? What do you think
EK>   about Whole Language vs. Phonics for a 5 year old who has
EK>   just started to learn?  If he is being taught at school
EK>   with W.L. approach, and at home with Phonics, would it be
EK>   confusing, or they enhance each other?

       All strategies work in part. Some kids do best with just one. Others benefit from using the full spectrum.
       There is a lot to be said for observing which strategies each child picks up best.

       The best strategy of all to foster the interest in reading that makes any other method work for almost any kid is to have a parent and teacher who share (i.e. read aloud) daily. I'm sad when i hear of kids as young as six, seven and eight whose parents have stopped reading to them because they assume that, after starting school, the kids can read.


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From: Joan.Fitton@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Joan Fitton)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Teaching kids to read
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 17:06:12 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Hi Elahe-
In your mesage you ask the question.....
 
"What do you think about Whole Language v. Phonics for a 5 year old who is just starting to learn?"
 
Anyone who knows anything at all about whole language will tell you that phonics is taught in a whole language classroom....if they are not teaching phonics then they are doing a serious disservice to your child... However what you need to know is that the phonics are taught in a meaningful context....they are looked at within the story or chant or poem that the child is learning to read....If you have ever read Marie Clay (one of the leading experts in this field) she will be the first to admit that child
ren don't just MAGICALLY learn how to read...they need guided reading along with the shared community reading within the
classroom.
 
If you really want to teach your child phonics at home please don't but one of those little workbooks that are sold in the store.....Use the literature that is being taught in your child's classroom and have your child look at the letters....help you write a letter to one of the characters in the story....compare words to look for differences in the letters....etc....It is important to have your child begin to write since studies have shown that young children learn 90% of their phonics through writing abo
ut things that are meaningful to them...
 
be a coach to your child and help them through the process....good writers did not learn their craft through filling in missing letters on a phonics worksheet. I would suggest that you visit a local bookstore and try to find one of Marie Clay's parent books to give you ideas for activities to do with your child....
 
Joan Fitton


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From: Kevin.Thompson@p2.f600.n774.z3.fidonet.org (Kevin Thompson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: New BBS in our school
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 21:19:54 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:774/600.2 - Beast MKII, Rotorua

 > Hello from Central New York State!
 >
 >         We in the Phoenix High School have started a BBS
 > just for high School use, and I am checking how our system
 > is working.
 
Hello from Rotorua, New Zealand.  Your system seems to be working just fine.  It reached here on January 27.  We have just set up a BBS at the end of last year, and hope to use it more extensively this year.
 
 >         We also will be having a class or two who will be
 > looking for contacts out there among the Electronic Amazing
 > Machines.  Anyone got some interested students?
 >
 >         If you could give us a holler back from where ever
 > you are, I would appreciate it.  Thanks a bunch.
 
Yes, I am sure that some of our students would like to communicate with your and/or your students.  We have a longer break than do your over Christmas, and our students will be returning in the first week of February.  Leave a week or two for them to settle, and I am sure that some will be only too pleased to communicate back with you.
 
Looking forward to hearing from you.
 
Regards,
Kevin



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From: Terry.Bowden@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Bowden)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: HS pen pal
Date: Sat, 16 Jan 93 01:16:30 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Hi Phil,
Re your comment:
PF>Pacific PowerNet utilises our own extensive telecommunications network to
PF>provide a very low user access cost over a large part of NSW.
PF>We have been trialling the system for some 6 months and hope to officially
PF>"launch" the project within the next month or two.

That sounds quite similar to what I am doing here in NZ.
IBM has a leased voice line, with multiple voice sub-channels between
PABX's in each branch office in New Zealand's main centres (Auckland,
Wellington, Christchurch). Each PABX can be called from any in-house
extension, and then access an outside line to make a local call. Since
these are set up for business hours use, there is no great demand for
their usage over night. So I have placed a BBS in IBM Auckland, on an
extension. By dialling a 2-digit PABX link number, I get through to
Wellington or Christchurch, several hundred miles away. By then dialling
'1' I get a local outside line. By dialling the local BBS number, I can
connect to a hub BBS in either city and exchange K12Net and other mail
and files at no cost to those sites.

IBM sponsors the trans-Tasman link, so I call Geoff Shearsby in Sydney
every night of the week to exchange K12 and the other Education echoes
(eg LIBRARY, COLLEGE, STUDENTS etc).

Telecom helps with the link from Christchurch to Dunedin, and various
other groups fund any calls to other outlying areas in NZ.
I hope you are successful in your venture to help promote K12Net
in a similar manner in Australia.

Regards,  Terry Bowden    K12Net Coordinator for New Zealand
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From: John.Mclaughlin@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (John Mclaughlin)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: EXCHANGE
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 22:10:52 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Hi.  I teach junior high school social studies and language arts in 
Bathurst, New Brunswick (CANADA) and I am interestedin seting up an exchange 
of ideas with students in Bathurst, Australia.  If you teach there (orknow 
someboyd who does), I'd appreciate hearing from youi.  Thanks!

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From: Jack.Dale@p0.f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Dale)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: School goals
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 09:33:43 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49.0 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

 -=> Quoting Andre Rombauts to All/tous <=-


 AR> This is an interesting question to debate about:

 AR> Should schools prepare students to the needs specified by industries?
 AR> It seems dangerous to me to focus on such a goal: industry needs are
 AR> changing quickly; students should be prepared mainly to be able to
 AR> adapt to new needs. If they are involved into a too specific
 AR> curriculum, it will be difficult for them to find another job... Can
 AR> each (??? well, some) of you state here their opinions? 
 AR> .]I[. Andre Rombauts, European moderator

I am not sure that industry wants us to teach the specific skills that they
need.  As I read very business writers, perhaps the more enlightened ones,
I get the sense that they want students, and employees, who can think for
themselves and who can learn to learn.  One author, Peter Senge (whom I have
not read), is often quoted in this vein.  I noticed an advertisment for
a three-day workshop based on his ideas.  In the ad, Arie De Gues of Royal
Ditch Shell, is quoted: "The ability to learn faster than your competitors
may be the only sustainable competitive advantage."

Jack 



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From: Fred.McNulty@p0.f115.n323.z1.fidonet.org (Fred McNulty)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: hello
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 04:49:16 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:323/115.0 - ImageNet BBS, Coventry RI

Hello Carol.  My name is Fred McNulty and I am a teacher in Warwick, 
R.I.  I also love computers and I'm trying to keep up with the ever 
growing technology.  Our school has gone from a math lab of 20 
computers to a math lab of 20 IBM compatibles that are all attached to 
a file server.  We have a lab in the library with another 20 stations, 
one in the English department, and they are all on networks and 
alllnet worked together.

Good to hear from you.


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From: Iain.Macpherson@f405.n622.z3.fidonet.org (Iain Macpherson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: A Slur or an Ambiguity ??
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 07:01:50 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:622/405

JOCULAR MODE ON
+++++++++++++++

LM>I like the idea of
LM>using a bulletin board because no one really knows me and its a
LM>"safe"
LM>environment ie., I can speak about any difficulties I'm having
LM>without having
LM>to worry too much about what people think because its unlikely
LM>that anyone on
LM>this board will have any influence on my future as a teacher

       Gee, you mean all that free advice people have been giving you is to be ignored in it's entirety because what we say will have NO EFFECT on you? <ELG> (-: (-:

Jocular Mode OFF
             ***

       I know what you mean. It's good to get a bit of feedback and advice from someone other than a superior or mentor. Keep it up. It lets you draw on the successes and failures of other people's experiences before you get in too deep.


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From: Frank.Wijmenga@p1078.f31.n500.z2.fidonet.org (Frank Wijmenga)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: K12map (final)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 93 21:09:47 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 2:500/31.1078 - HCC Emmen 1, Emmen

Hello Robert,
 
 >             +===2:500/1=====2:500/9=====2:500/222===2:28/6=====2:282/506
You can see in the seen-by path, that your message (and all the others for
some weeks now) is coming further down the line.
 
 > PATH: 167/130 2608/75 260/620 105/23 42 500/1 28/777 500/5 31
                                                              **
 
I'm being a point at 2:500/31 for some years now and (beeing a teacher) saw 
this K12 teachers chat when i was visiting my brother who lives in france.
When I got back at home (Emmen, Holland or the Netherlands) the first thing i 
did was informing if this echomail area existed over here.
So it was, but nobody seems to know it here in holland.
These past weeks i saw no dutchmen entering any message, so hereby my official 
entering this area.
 
To introduce myself: I'm teaching geography for 20 years now and the last two 
years also computer science. This at a school for children from 11 to 19 years 
of age. We do not speak in terms of grades; our schoolsystem is completely 
different from all the systems i know of; and still changing.
Due to a new law overhere next year starts a completely different approach to 
teaching young children in the age just mentioned.
When someone likes to know what is so different over here , just ask.
 
After this small first introduction I will ask (to all readers) if there is 
someone in Perth (Australia) reading this area.
It seems that in Perth a far relative of me must be living, who is also 
teaching geography. If someone from Perth could respond than i can continue my 
quest.
 
I hope this comes over to you Robert (and others reading this area).
Bye and perhaps we'll spaek again.
CU, Frank Wijmenga.  (2:500/31.1078)
 

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howland.reston.ans.net!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!eff!ssd.intel.com!psgrain!puddle!f804.n800.z3.fidonet.org!Bill.Kerr
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: A PROBLEM
From: Bill.Kerr@f804.n800.z3.fidonet.org (Bill Kerr)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 17:12:12 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:800/804 - Oracle PC-Network, Flinders Park Sth Aust Austra


Hi Rob,
 >BK> How is that a problem? :-)
 >
 > I am sorry but I do not recall what the issue was that you are 
 > refering to!  Can you refresh my memory?

I forget all the details too, Rob. Something to do with that fellow who thinks Fidonet is corrupting our youth not having access. Not as worry from my point of view.
Bill




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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: HI!  WE ARE LOOKING FOR A
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 05:37:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

-> Hi!  We are a group of teachers in a small Catholic High School, and
-> are looking
-> for information regarding the organization of teachers in private
-> schools.  we are not aware of any such organization, and would like
-> information as to structure, membership, scope, etc.  Any information
-> will be greatly appreciated!

When you say "organization", do you mean a union? or a professional
organization. If the latter, then how about NCEA? (National Catholic
Educators Association). Supposedly I am a member, since all teachers at
our school are, but I don't have any of the pertinent adresses with me
at home. I am sure I could get them from school if you are interested.
Let me know.

Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
    

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From: Iain.Macpherson@f405.n622.z3.fidonet.org (Iain Macpherson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Canadian Pen Pals
Date: Sun, 17 Jan 93 07:46:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:622/405

BH>I am looking for Canadian sixth grade teachers who would like to
BH>exchange messages with a sixth grade class in Washington.  We
BH>have just received a grant and need desperately to find some
BH>classes scattered across Canade to write to.  Our sixth graders
BH>study Canada and are very excited about this project.  It would
BH>be too bad if they couldn't find anyone to write to.  They will
BH>be asking questions that most kids that age want to know about
BH>plus certain questions that the teacher has required.  Please
BH>let me hear from someone soon!

       Let me know if you want to expand the project to Australia. I have access to many teachers and classes who may be interested.


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From: Joel.Orleck@p5.f41.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Orleck)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Hello
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 20:57:15 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:116/41.5 - Metro-Net, Nashville TN

FM> My name is Fred McNulty and I am a teacher in Warwick, R.I. 

Hi Fred,

   I teach 7th grade science in Nashville, TN.  I saw your post and could not
resist sending you a note.  I was born in Providence and lived in Pawtucket
and Johnston until I moved here in 1967.  I still have family living in RI.
 

   I have not seen many posts from RI teachers on K12. To what extent are teachers
in Warwick using telecommunications??


Regards,


Joel



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From: Dick.York@f89.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Dick York)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: mneumonics
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 13:33:32 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/89 - Wolverine BBS, El Paso TX

On Old Olympus Towering Top, A Finn And German Viewed Some Hops.

Ofactory, Optic, Occipital, Trigeminal...etc.  the 12 cranial nerves 
remembered from my old Comparative Anatomy professor, Dr. Peter S. 
Chrapliwy, circa 1960, Texas Western College, now Univ. Texas at El 
Paso (UTEP).


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