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From: miguele@lotatg.lotus.com (Miguel A. Estrada)
Subject: Complete NeXT for $2,990 (+ shipping) NOT SOLD YET
Organization: Lotus Development Corp.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 20:51:22 GMT

I shipped it to an individual in CA who changed his mind and refused to  
accept the Fedex COD package.  I do not currently have the machine.  Fedex  
sent it back and should be here in a couple of days (Wed or Thu).

In the meantime, I am trying to collect the $150 that I personally paid to  
Fedex to insure and ship the machine to this person.  The individual  
believes that I should pay for it... Hopefully he will change his mind  
again and consider at least paying for the shipping.

I have several other individuals who have expressed an interest in the  
machine and have verbally said that they will purchase it.  I am posting  
this message in order to get more interested persons just in case that the  
currently interested parties also decide to change their minds...


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Complete NeXT for $2,990 (+ shipping):

NextStation 25Mhz 68040 20MB RAM, 105MB internal drive
	17 in. Monochrome monitor.
	scsi-2 to scsi-1 Cable (Black, from NeXT)
	rs-232 Cable (NeXTConnection)
	rs-232 Null Modem Cable (NeXTConnection)
NeXTStep 2.1 Standard Software Diskettes
NeXTStep 2.1 Extended Software Diskettes
NeXTStep 2.1 Full Documentation
Lotus Improv

All hardware in IMPECABLE condition.
Less than 100 hours of use !!!!!

All of the above for $2990 + Shipping

YES  $2,990.  This ridiculously low price is NOT negotiable. (first offer 
takes it)

Add Telebit T2500 for $500

For questions call Miguel Estrada at (617)693-7703 or reply to this
email.  
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From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: If you know someone in Cornell, you might get a NeXT really cheap
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:10:40 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

Add to this that there aren't enough computer music geeks hangin' around
in the music department to get very excited about having an engine to
do non-MIDI things *and* MIDI thangs on. David Borden's a pretty wonderful
guy, but he's just not into hardcore "send that cryptohorn and the 
stretched moosecall flying around the room at 190 MPH and crash it
into the bowl of slow water" school of music with computers. If I were
NeXT, I'd send a photographer to the next ICMC in San Jose and take 
pictures of all the scruffy NeXT lovers *there*. We don't look like
Wall Street Mission-critical post-Reaganistas [*I* don't, anyway], but
the concentrations are really there....

In a sene, it's interesting that so little is said about this particular
little situation. With the exception of a single and quite reasonably
priced MIDI application, almost every other piece of software to do
music with a NeXT [and we're talking tools used as standards on all kinds
of expensive machines] is in the public domain. Free for an ftp or a 
query to the mail servers at Purdue. I still push back from the desk
while doing the occasional Christopher Penrose Commemorative
"mandolin/rattlesnake swap" transform and marvel at this state of affairs.
--
All the more beautiful in the concert hall with people in their fine clothes and
yourself in the same place as the original music. The rest, I imagine, must be 
like the sound of a radio orchestra in the 1940s, Europe fiddling beneath the 
darkness and abandoned capital cities leaning into the sound as it becomes noise
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From: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Subject: WANTED: NeXTstation 8/105
Organization: Prodigy Technologies Corp.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:53:57 GMT

We are looking for a few good used entry level NeXTstation. Please
e-mail me the following descriptions of your system(s):
	age
	bundled software
	configuration
	asking price
	serial numbers

Please e-mail responses to: jchin@prodigy.bc.ca

Joe

-- 
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jchin@prodigy.bc.ca			Vancouver, B.C., Canada
jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca (NeXTmail)	"We are NOT Sears-Prodigy"
********** phone 604-687-4636 ******** fax 604-687-1671 **********
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From: millier@inttech.com (Marc Millier)
Subject: 030 Cubes for sale (soon)
Organization: Interactive Technology, Inc. - Beaverton OR
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:21:22 GMT

Plan to sell - Several '030 Cubes 

We are planning to have several '030 Cubes for sale in the near future.  

We think there will be two or three Mono systems with 330Mb disk and
8Mb memory.  Right now, we think $2750 per is fair, but make an offer!

-Marc

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From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (L. McCulloch)
Subject: 040 Cube For Sale
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:32:55 GMT


e
The following is for sale. I'm an independent developer and I need color
for my work, so I'm selling my NeXTcube which is in excellent
condition.

       NeXTcube 040 (upgraded from 030)
       256 MB Optical Drive w/filter (no problems)
       28 MB !!! memory (no swapperino)
       DIT cubeFloppy w/FloppyWorks
       Monochrome MegaPixel Display (never any problems)
       Original Keyboard (w/mouse)
       Cheapo Radio Shack mic
       NeXT OD cleaning kit
       SCSI-2 to SCSI-1 cable
       Internal SCSI cable

You supply HD.

       Tons of PD software on OD including Stuart, McGill X,
         PD Mathematica packages, nxyplot, MediaView, FotranToC
         converter, etc.
         I can provide a list and get anything else you want.
       Mathematica 2.0.4.5 on floppies w/
         the Mathematica book - Addison-Wesley
         Exploring Mathematics with Mathematica (w/CDROM)
         I'll transfer the license
       2.0 System Release on OD
       2.1 Upgrade on floppies
       Complete printed 2.0 Documentation Set
       All original manuals
       4 more SS ODs and 1 DS OD

I pay Airborne Express insured shipment in original boxes for $5750.

A new 32 MB cube w/floppy & 400 MB HD and !!without OD!! lists for
$10,995. Edu price is about $7700. A 660 MB Fujitsu HD can be had
for around $1180 and installed internally (you'll have the 
necessary cables). Join a user group and get 3.0 on the OD. This is
a reasonable deal if you want a cube (unclear future and all). I
simply cannot afford another 5k to get color and 32-bit is too much
for me anyway. If and when the RISC upgrade is offered - you
**could** have an even hotter machine. Don't flame me about price,
this machine is in tip-top shape and I'll gladly keep it if you
don't want it.

Please respond by telephone only (205)726-1832 between 9am-5pm
central. You can leave a message if I'm not there and I'll call
you back. If you need serial numbers or more info, no problem.
I'm not yet connected to e-mail at work, sorry. This was posted
through a Nyx board.
M
Michael McCulloch        Independent NeXT Developer


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From: evensen@husc8.harvard.edu (Erik Evensen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: color turbo station _possibly_ for sale
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:44:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.EVENSEN.92Jul24104420
Distribution: comp
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA


Due to lifestyle changes I find that I do not use my beloved NeXT
enough or for the anticipated purposes to justify tying up so much
cash in it.

The machine is spec'd as follows:

- NeXTstation TurboColor
- 16 MB RAM
- 400 MB harddrive
- starting point kit
- Sony GDM-1601 16" trinitron monitor (not black but it's a trinitron)
- Custom cable for monitor (long enough so you don't _have_ to put the
  monitor on top of the slab).
- NeXTstep 2.2 extended

Price for this setup is $6500 plus shipping; I'm pretty firm on this
and I think it is a fair price based on the price of the machine at
MIT.

Options:
- 250 MB Seagate harddrive (pulled from another NeXTstation) in
  external enclosure w/ appropriate SCSI cable  $650.

- I could be convinced to sell the machine with the 250 MB harddrive
  installed (i.e., as a 16/250) for, say, $6000.

- If anyone is looking to upgrade to a TurboColor we could perhaps
  work out a trade plus money.

I'm fairly firm on the prices since I'm not strapped for cash and am
not willing to take a real bath on the machine; but, of course, I'm
open to reasonable offers or proposals.

                                         Thank you,

                                           Erik
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From: miguele@lotatg.lotus.com (Miguel A. Estrada)
Subject: Re: Complete NeXT for $2,990 (+ shipping):
Organization: Lotus Development Corp.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:24:46 GMT

The system has already been shipped COD.  Consider this system SOLD unless  
I post a msg indicating otherwise.

Thanks to all of you who expressed interest.

--
Disclaimer: I do not speak for my employer.
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From: tristen@cs.UAlberta.CA (Rasmussen Tristen J)
Subject: Re: Color NeXTstation for sale
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:21:58 GMT

tristen@cs.UAlberta.CA (Rasmussen Tristen J) writes:

>Brand new Color NeXTstation for sale:
>
>- Never used
>- Complete system:
>- 17" Color NeXT monitor
>- 68040 25Mhz CPU
>- 12 MB RAM
>- NeXT modem cable
>- 200 MB Hard disk
>- Keyboard, Mouse, Sound Box
>- Internal 2.88 MB floppy 3.5" drive
>- Manuals
>
>    $5700 US or best offer.
>
>    Phone:  tristen at (403)-456-1540
>
>    Email:  tristen@manning.cs.ualberta.ca
>
I forgot to add that there is the full 1 year warrenty on the machine
through NeXT.

Tristen.

>
>
From: david@danton.gr.osf.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Announcing Cyberman
Keywords: Cyberman Germany C Programming Scripts
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:59:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: liveware.1992Jul24.135906.2012
Reply-To: dave%prim.uucp@germany.eu.net
Followup-To: poster
Organization: David Griffiths Software Institute

Cyberman is now on the archives under submissions at nova

What is Cyberman ?

CyberMan is a program that lets you automate other applications.
One problem with programs with nice Graphical User Interfaces
is that the user has to click the buttons and drag the slide knobs
themselves. CyberMan is designed to do this for you. You write scripts
that specify events to be sent to an application. CyberMan uses a C-like
scripting language. This gives the advantage over a static journal recording
that you can conditionally send events. You can also read and write the
pasteboard and execute shell scripts from within a CyberMan script.


dave%prim.uucp@germany.eu.net
From: stu@lgc.com (Stu Henderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: FrameMaker 3.0 Needed for NeXT
Keywords: FrameMaker NeXT
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:51:44 GMT
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corp., Houston, Tx.

I am needing FrameMaker 3.0 for my NeXT Color with a transferable license
and documentation.  If you have such a beast, please contact me by E-mail
or phone.


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Stuart Henderson
Landmark Graphics Corporation
stu@lgc.com	[non-NeXT]
work: (713) 579-4803
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From: hlam@bnr.ca (Hayward Lam)
Subject: WANTED: NeXT laser printer
Reply-To: hlam@bnr.ca (Hayward Lam)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:23:43 GMT


Why don't you upgrade your printer to NeXT colour laser printer?
So you can sell me the NeXT laser printer. If you have one for sale,
please email me at hlam@bnr.ca

Thanks.
Hayward 
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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: NeXTdimension for sale
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 06:07:18 GMT

NeXTdimension subsystem, includes:

     NeXTdimension board, with 20mb RAM
     17" NeXT Color Monitor
     Sound Box

Used but in excellent condition. Asking $4900 plus shipping.

Will take CODs - cash/certified check.

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From: hubert@fdn.org (Hubert Delahaye)
Subject: Fax numbers needed
Reply-To: hubert@fdn.org
Organization: French Data Network (FdN) - Paris, France.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:17:48 GMT

	
Hi...

After reading "Where can I purchase memory for a NeXT ?" in the NeXT.FAQ,  
I need to find the fax number of two companies gived. They are Marco  
International and Stratum Technologies.
Unfortunately it's impossible for me from France to find out this  
information. So, many thanks in advance for your help.

--
Hubert Delahaye

Registered NeXT Developer                    NeXTmail  hubert@fdn.org
French Data Network (FdN) Architect               Fax  +33 1 43027730
From: isbell@cats.ucsc.edu (Art Isbell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Mail transferring
Summary: Get MailService
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:49:40 GMT
Organization: Cubic Solutions - NeXT software development and consulting
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Jul21.060941.13650@cc.tut.fi> tomi@cc.tut.fi (Heinonen Tomi) writes:
>My own next is not connected to internet but I would like to read mail with it.
>I have transferred mails from my schools computer by modem. (simply copying
>/usr/spool/mail/username to my nexts /usr/spool/mail/username)
>Now I am wondering if there is any apps that could make the same automatically
>Or even better if it could send mails from my own next (using the address of 
>schools machine).

I use the public domain MailService which should be available at
sonata.cc.purdue.edu:pub/next/2.0-release/{bin,source}.  MailService sends
selected text as a mail message on your local machine (appends the text to
/usr/spool/mail/your_account).  So all you need to do is read mail in Terminal
on a remote mail host, select a message of interest (including the header),
select "Mail>Send As A Message" from the Services menu, and then get you new
message in Mail on your NeXT.  This works fine for both NeXT and non-NeXT mail,
but not so good for really long messages.

Outbound mail is not so convenient.  I mail them to myself from Mail, and if
they're not too long, just open /usr/spool/mail/art in Edit, and copy and
paste the body of the message (including the NeXT-Attachment: line) into
Terminal after initiating the sending of mail in Unix mail on my remote host.
This works best using modems with flow control and error correction, and seems
to work best if the remote host is in emacs or vi rather than mail itself.  For
long messages, kermit or zmodem seem to be the best approach.
-- 

Art Isbell                                                      Cubic Solutions
NeXT Registered Developer #745         NeXT software development and consulting
Email: isbell@cats.UCSC.EDU                                Voice: (408)335-1154
USmail: 95018-9442                                           Fax: (408)335-2515
From: rpomeroy@aunext3.cam.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: AGH!  NewsGrazer and Mail gang up & destroy work!
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:35:24 GMT
Reply-To: rpomeroy@aunext3.cam.amd.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <1992Jul27.211320.29057@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> dave@lizard.ccs (David  
Aspinall) writes:
>>In article <pzxxcbd@rpi.edu> gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu (Garance A. Drosehn)  
>>writes:
>>> 
>>> NewsGrazer did the best it could for implementing "Reply" on a release 2.1  
>>> system. Unfortunately the best it can do is to use an undocumented (and not  
>>> completely tested) side-door into mail.  This side-door lets newsgrazer pop  
>>> up mail messages,but has the undesirable side-effect that you've described.
>>> 
>>> I've been nailed by this as well.  To avoid it, either post that Mail  
>>> message before running newsgrazer, or miniaturize the Send window (so it's  
>>> an icon instead of a window).
>>> 
>>> As I understand it, release 3.0 has a new interface for Mail, and using 
>>> this interface the above problem will not come up.  I imagine that 
>>> NewsGrazer needs to be changed to take advantage of this new interface, but 
>>> once that's done then this problem will be a distant (and unpleasent) 
>>> memory.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Garance Alistair Drosehn     =     gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu
>>> ITS Systems Programmer            (handles NeXT-type mail)
>>> Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute;           Troy NY    USA
>>
>>Actually, I'm using Release 3.0 Beta 2 and NewsGrazer 72.0 an everything  
>>works great.   Hmmm, what changes are there between release 72.0 and 72.2 ?
>>
>>Could someone mail me the 72.2 version?
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>>David Aspinall			NeXT Campus Consultant
>>Email- next@yorku.ca		York University, Canada
>> 

Me too,  we're about to go 3.0PR2.
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Ronald Pomeroy                | NeXT,  It's a black thang' - you wouldn't
Advanced Micro Devices        |        understand.
CAM Applications Group        |(NeXTMail happily accepted)
rpomeroy@aunext3.amd.com      | #import STANDARD DISCLAMER
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From: steveh@rtsg.mot.com (Steve M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: Fax software for SupraFAX on the NeXT
Keywords: fax, SupraFAX
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:31:59 GMT

In article <63933@hydra.gatech.EDU> tg@chmsr.gatech.edu (T. Govindaraj) writes:
> [deleted]
>
>If you have Dfax running on your machine, please let me know how
>you like it and what it costs.

Please let all of us know in netland.  There are plenty of us who
are interested in your impressions of DFax.

-- 
Steve Hoffman <steveh@rtsg.mot.com>
Motorola Inc. Arlington Heights, IL
All opinions are my own.
Big corporations have none.
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From: fedor@hopper.Colorado.EDU (Adam Fedor)
Subject: Multiple kermits
Originator: fedor@hopper.Colorado.EDU
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 02:48:58 GMT

About a month ago I got kermit 5a from sonata, and it worked fine on
my machine.  However, about two weeks ago, it started acting funny.  
I can dial up a computer, but as soon as I try to 'connect', a copy
of kermit gets started (i.e. a seperate process as shown by the 'ps' command).

After that, I can't type the escape character (I assume this is because the
two kermits are confliting with each other).  I can kill one of the
kermit processes, but another one will start as soon as I try to connect
again.  Obviously, something on my machine changed, but I don't know what
(I've tried to reinstall kermit again, but it works the same).
Any ideas?

Adam Fedor. CU, Boulder		| "I tried Elmer's Glue when I was a kid,
fedor@boulder.colorado.edu 	|     but I didn't swallow..."
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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: WANTED: *NeXTstep* SplitView text editor
Reply-To: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 16:46:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.021738.3501@arizona.edu> zazula@pri.com (Ralph  
Zazula) writes:
> 
> I wrote:
> > P.S. out of curiosity, what *is* the incantation to bring up a  
split-screen
> > in emacs?
> 
> Andrew Loewenstern wrote: Hit "C-x-4-b" and put in the name of the buffer
> 
> John McCraken wrote: Why, it's "ctrl-x 2" of course.  Isn't that obvious  
:-)
> 
> Ooooowwwww!!!  My stomach hurts, someone help - I can't stop laughing....  
:-)
> 

Well, as in every advanced software, there are many ways to do the same  
thing. JM's solution is the simplest one - not recommendable. With AL's  
solution, you also have to type the filename after C-x-4-b, so you really  
don't get bored :-)

But to be serious: It counts to learn emacs. Not for NeXT only (I prefer  
Edit on NeXT), but there are many other Unix-platforms where the most  
sophisticated editor is called 'vi' - and people do use it ! At least with  
emacs, you can start editing on other unix-platforms. 

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From: turing@cse.ucsc.edu (Brad Gulko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: swapfile death - help
Date: 30 Jul 92 02:37:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

>  The NeXT I was using filled up its local disk (swap file grew while
> running Mathematica). Eventually the machine totally wedged and I
> had to power cycle it. Now when it boots it gets stuck trying to
> handle a page fault.

I have had a similar problem with mathematica filling up the
swap disk. I also had to power cycle the machine to get it
back up. When the machine came back up, I found that my
dock parameters (preferences) had been wiped! It seems that this
was all the damage that was done, yet, there must be
something poorly designed in the interaction between mathematica and
the NeXT Step memory manager which allows mathematica to grab sections of
the hard disk which are already in use, for the purpose of virtual
memory allocation.

	---- Brad
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From: irwin@writer.yorku.ca (Ron Irwin)
Subject: word processors on NeXT
Originator: irwin@grant
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:53:39 GMT

Hello.  We are setting up a NeXT Lab here at York for our
Computer-Assisted Writing Centre.  We are trying to decide which word
processor we should go with.  We used to offer emacs on our Unix
system, and our choice for the new environment seems to be narrowing
down to either WriteNow or WordPerfect.  Can anybody make some
suggestions and describe their experiences?  

Our lab services primarily undergrad level arts, humanities and social
science courses (about 2000 users per year).  The variables most
important to our making a decision are ease of use and flexibility for
the student, ease of training, compatibility with other systems,
ability to handle footnotes, bibliographies, commenting, formatting in
APA and MLA style, endnotes, customizability, facility to move, copy
and place text into background and retrieve, grammar and spell
checkers, etc.

Since I am not able to read this group regularly, please respond to my
email address.
				Thanks in advance,
					Ron

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