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From: weg@iccdev.indcomp.com (Bill Gaines)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: More on Prince of Tides
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:26:30 GMT
Organization: Industrial Computer Corp.

Speculation in the CEFORUM on Compuserve is that Voyager had already
pressed the disc before allowing Streisand to review it.  It
apparently is Voyager's screwup and they decided to just abandon the
project instead of re-pressing discs.

Streisand has already filed suit against Voyager to complete and
release the disc.

-- 
Bill Gaines
Industrial Computer Corp.
weg@indcomp.com, ...!emory!iccdev!bill
From: andrew@frip.WV.TEK.COM (Andrew Klossner)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: JFK Still Defective, So Is The Store!
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:50:30 GMT
Reply-To: andrew@frip.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville, Oregon


	"Pioneer should take the disc back from them and replace it
	with a fresh one.  It wouldn't cost them a penny to refund your
	money ..."

The dealer pays the freight.  One dealer told me he pays $8 each time
he exchanges a defective disk.

  -=- Andrew Klossner  (andrew@frip.wv.tek.com)
                       (uunet!tektronix!frip.WV.TEK!andrew)
From: Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: More on Prince of Tides
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:35:51 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Here's the "official" story of Prince of Tides, taken from the
L.A. Times News Service:

The fancy Criterion laser disc of "The Prince of Tides, due out in
early August when the videocassette was released, hasn't simply
been postponed. It's been shelved completely.

This laser disc was to have been different from the one currently
marketed by Columbia Tristar, which had to be recalled because
some scenes were accidentally omitted during the production process.
The Criterion version was deluxe - with extras such as outtakes and
commentary by director-star Barbra Streisand.

Criterion canceled the release because of a disagreement with
Streisand, who had final approval of the project.

"We had worked with her up to a point and she didn't approve of some
things in the final version," said Elizabeth Collumb of the Voyager
Co., which distributes Criterion discs. "She wanted changes and we
decided not to make the changes."

Collumb would not provide specifics of what was in dispute.

"It's a terrible disappointment," she said. "Dealers and customers,
particularly Streisand fans, have been looking forward to this
release. People are always looking for insight into what makes
Streisand tick and what was driving the movie - which they'll never
find out now."
From: vibrad@os2dce06.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: TRON on free DISNEY this weekend, was Re: Looking for Tron LD
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:04:57 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

Videorama might have Tron on LaserDisc  (their latest catalog claims it)
they are an EXCELLENT source for hard to find LaserDiscs. You will end up
paying list price but if you cannot find the disc anywhere else, paying the
extra $3-$5 dollars should not be a big deal.  I have dealt with them a number
of times and have been very happy.

The one thing to note is that (unless you otherwise request) they open up and
check each LD they send out and it the disc plays fine on their player then 
they will put a little sticker (not an obnoxious one, it is about the 
size/type that go on VHS cassettes to prevent the opening of the cassette and
alert the renter of it) on it and ship it to you.  You then have a life long
garantee against problems with the disc.  You can request that they dont 
open the disc at all and you will have to deal directory with the manufacturer
for a replacement disc.

(I have done it both ways) - no problems either way

Videorama
2474 State Street
Burnham, IL 60633
Phone : (708) 862-9880
Fax : (708) 868-2604

(ask for a catalog with your first order, otherwise it is $5)
(it is NOT
 the standard Pioneer LaserDisc catalog you get from everyone else) 
Brad
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: lindgren@sics.se (Thomas Lindgren)
Subject: Eraserhead?
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science, Kista
Distribution: rec.video.releases
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:11:55 GMT


I have wanted to see Eraserhead for a long time now, but none
of my friends seem to know where to find a copy. So, I'm
wondering whether there is a video release of that movie (or any
other Lynch movie for that matter). Where can I order it, how
much is it, etc.? I am but a novide in these matters.

	Regards,
		Thomas
--
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"I know what I've told you I'm going to say, I'm going to say.
 And what else I say, well, I'll take some time to figure out --
 figure that all out." -- George Bush, 4 December, 1990.

"Hey, hey, nihao ma. Hey, yeah, yeah. Heil, heil -- a kind of
Hitler salute." -- George Bush, 29 March 1992.
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong)
Subject: GHOSTBUSTERS on laserdisc:  Criterion & RCA/Columbia differences?
Summary: What are the differences?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:54:10 GMT
Keywords: Ghostbusters, laserdisc

     Is anyone familiar with both CLV versions of Ghostbusters from
     Criterion & from RCA/Columbia, other than the price?

     You see, the Laser Video file lists the Criterion editions at 98
     minutes (both the CLV &^ CAV).  The RCA/Columbia editions are all
     listed at 105 minutes.  What accounts for this disparity?  Is any
     part of the movie missing in the Criterion editions or is it just
     extraneous stuff like trailers or something?
      
      The reason why I am asking is I picked up the Criterion edition for
      only $35 (it was mislabeled, supposed to be $50), but I haven't 
      opened it yet when I learned of the time disparity.  If I am missing
      something important, I'm keeping it unopened so I can return it.
      Otherwised, I'd like to keep it.
       
       Thanks for any info.  

       Jason
       jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Subject: Re: Aliens Special Edition -- Yuck!
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 17:47:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.222809.17675@news.media.mit.edu>, wave@media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> 
> In both versions, Newt knows exactly how to go through the ducts to get
> to the landing area.  In the new version, however, Newt and her brother
> are fighting about a game they and the other children play which involves
> running around in the air ducts.  Newt's brother complains that she's 
> the best at the game just because she's smaller than everybody else.  This
> gives more justification as to why Newt was the only one able to survive the
> aliens attack by hiding in the air ducts.
> 

This was very apparent even without actually showing it.  We knew Newt
had wandered around the tunnels a lot, simply because she knew her way
around.  It was unecessary to show the exact details of why she would be
doing this.  Maybe it was just that there had been a long time between
when the colony was attacked and when the Ripley et. al. arrived, or maybe
she played in them even before that.  It was better left to the imagination
in this case, because the scenes reduced the tension for the rest of the
film.

Steve
From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Aliens Special Edition -- Yuck!
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:54:42 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Aug28.202513.2213@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
>I just rented this and is it only me, or are there others who really dislike
>all the extra footage?  Most discussions in the past seemed to be dealing
>with the picture quality and grainyness (which I thought was good for the
>most part except maybe one or two short sequences), but I don't recall
>anyone discussing the merits (or lack thereof) of the extra footage.
>
I've been reading this newsgroup and r.v. for over three years and
nobody has complained about the extra footage yet although I do agree
about the names exchange scene. Brought the movie to a SCREECHING halt.

>A general gripe is that most of the scenes add nothing to film other then
>in lengthening an already long film.  The only exception might be the remote
>sentry stuff which was mildly interesting.

I wholeheartedly disagree. Showing Newt's family helps the viewer
understand more about the hell that Newt went through. We assume that
she may have even seen this THING burst out of her father. In the
original she was some 'scared brat' but now we have a different side of
her personality. The same with Ripley losing her daughter. Now Ripley
has a PURPOSE to go out and blow these suckers away beyond the bad
dreams. Even in the original, Newt called Ripley "Mommy".

>Early on they must have
>realized that the sequence probably would NOT be a good idea, but Cameron
>must have felt differently.  Well, Cameron was wrong.  I suppose it shows
>that directors really aren't Gods and are definitely NOT the only person
>involved in the end result of a released film.  The S.E. edition really
>feels like something Cameron wanted to do simply because he didn't want all
>that extra footage he shot to go to waste.

Apparently you didn't read ALL of what was printed on the disc. He said
that TIME CONSTRAINTS made him cut most of the footage out.
>
>Steve

Well, we'll see what happens when T2 and The Abyss come out in the next
few months. Oh, yes..they're Cameron films. If you want more insight on
Cameron's editing, get the Making of T2 (with the screenplay). Maybe
then you'll understand how things work in Cameron's head.

=============================== Mike Gaines ============================
= WHAT is your name?............................Captain Jean-Luc Picard=
= WHAT is your quest?.............................I seek the Holy Grail=
= WHAT is the average velocity of a Bird of Prey?...Romulan or Klingon?=
=                        I.....I don't know AAAAAHHHHH!                =
========================== meg5184@hertz.njit.edu ======================
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From: barry@netcom.com (Kenn Barry)
Subject: Re: Aliens Special Edition -- Yuck!
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 01:08:40 GMT
Organization: QQQCLC

In article <1992Aug30.235326.5863@engage.pko.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Two days and a wake-up...) writes:
>if Fox had been nice and understanding, they might have chapter
>encoded the extra footage sections on ALIENS so that if you didn't want
>to see it, you could just hit the "skip to next chapter" button, or
>program the player to skip over the section. Then we could both be
>happy.

	With the wonders of modern electronics, who cares
where they put the chapter marks? I happen to prefer the expanded
ALIENS to the original, but I was not happy with the new letterboxed
DARK STAR, which removed some scenes that had been in the original
theatrical release and stuck 'em at the end, as supplements - seems
Carpenter hadn't wanted 'em in. Problem? Nope. I just recorded 'em
back into sequence on SVHS tape. Result: near-disc-quality copy of
the movie the way _I_ think it should be.

	Actually, I keep an SVHS copy of ALIENS around, too. It's
identical to the disc. But I watch that damn movie so often, I get
tired of flippin' discs :-).

						Kayembee
From: rwittick@ibm.cl.msu.edu (Bob Wittick)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Paramount no chapters, was Re: Temple of Doom Caveat
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:45:46 GMT
Followup-To: rec.video.releases
Organization: Michigan State University

In article <1992Sep02.163119.26058@uhura.neoucom.edu>,
wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) wrote:

> Well, that's what I get for speaking in ignorance (he said with red face).
> I have now seen the new Indy discs -and checked the old ones which, some
> one else pointed out, also have chapters.  Does anyone know why Paramount
> chapter encoded these but has used chapters on almost (being cautious now)
> none of their other disc releases?

Apocalypse Now (widescreen) and The Ten Commandments, both from
Paramount, are chapter encoded.

               Bob Wittick
               Computer Laboratory
               Michigan State University
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Subject: Re: Eraserhead?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:18:38 GMT

In article <92246.082552WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
> In article <1992Sep2.110215.9987@alf.uib.no>, singg@alf.uib.no (Kurt George
> Gjerde) says:
> >
> >Eraserhead is not available on video in the US

It is.  I've seen it on a video store.

>      <stuff about expensive copying deleted>

Remember, kids:  Piracy is Illegal.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: * Starman's LD review: Raiders of the Lost Ark
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:38:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In a word: COOL!

This is one of the most eagerly awaited letterboxed releases, the other
one being Jaws. I cannot put into words how incredible the picture and
sound quality is. This is definitely a 'show off' disc for when your
buddies come over and say 'Wow, neat equipment!'

Two problems: First off was the fact that you can see the splice 'haze'
on a lot of parts of the film. Apart from that, you can see a MAJOR film
flaw on two or three frames when Indy is searching for the Well of the
Souls with his 'scope; it looks like the damage made when film is melted
by a hot light bulb. Ugh!

In any case, I got a rare (but fun) opportunity to compare the videotape
to the laser disc. If you can, do a comparison because it's then that
you appreciate watching a movie in the widescreen format. The colors are
really pale and the sides are very necessaary for the scope of the frame
(no kidding!). Paramount did an EXCELLENT job with the sound. I had the
floors shaking with the volume only half way up. For $24.95 it's worth
getting.

=============================== Mike Gaines ============================
= WHAT is your name?............................Captain Jean-Luc Picard=
= WHAT is your quest?.............................I seek the Holy Grail=
= WHAT is the average velocity of a Bird of Prey?...Romulan or Klingon?=
=                        I.....I don't know AAAAAHHHHH!                =
========================== meg5184@hertz.njit.edu ======================
                            AOL: Graphix@AOL.COM
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty III)
Subject: Criterion AKIRA (was Re: Beauty & the Beast Box Set)
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:48:02 GMT

In article <14642@mindlink.bc.ca>, Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike Quigley) writes:
> 
> I thought Akira wasn't going to be out until October. I heard the guy who
> was in charge of this at Criterion was involved in some kind of accident.

???  Anyone can confirm this?

-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
From: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Eraserhead?
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:25:52 GMT
 <1992Sep2.110215.9987@alf.uib.no>
Distribution: rec.video.releases
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Sep2.110215.9987@alf.uib.no>, singg@alf.uib.no (Kurt George
Gjerde) says:
>
>Eraserhead is not available on video in the US
     <stuff about expensive copying deleted>

I recall seeing a Laser Disk of _Eraserhead_ when it was out the first time and
followed its journey into the cut out bins.  Not being a big David Lynch fan I
did not pick up a copy.  But it was available at one time and may still be.

One place I have never been able to stump on ANY video format in print and some
out of print is "Dickens Books and Tapes" in Sacramento, California.  They're
out on Antelope Drive but their telephone number escapes me.  As it is an 800
number one can get it from the 800 information service.

"Dickens" routinely sends PAL format tapes overseas (the owner told me a story
of a video club in Australia who buy $200-300 worth of PAL tapes every month).
They also have Beta and VHS tapes in NTSC.  I was able to get the 1955 Robert
Aldrich _Kiss Me Deadly_ with no problem.  All of the video stores in the Bay
Area just listened and laughed after I asked.  (They have Laser Disks, too.)

They don't have a catalog, per se, but use one of the movie review books (no,
not Maltin's) as their basic listing.  I cannot recall its title at the moment
(Damn, the generalities stay long after the specifics vanish.) but can and will
get it if you folks want it.

Anyway, call 'em and ask away.  Jon-Brian sez: "Check it out."

Brian Waugh                       |    "What's for dinner?"
WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU    |        D.W. Griffith
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: ss@realsoon.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: Alien S.E
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:31:59 GMT

>>>>> On 1 Sep 92 15:22:01 GMT, jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) said:

jonke> In article <BOV.92Sep1120027@essex.x.co.uk>, bov@x.co.uk (Andy
jonke> Bovingdon) writes:
> 
> What upcoming Alien S.E. - Tell me more...
> 

jonke> I believe the release date in the US is October something or
jonke> other.  It's going to be a package like Aliens S.E., but all of
jonke> the extra scenes will be placed in the supplement sections
jonke> instead of the movie itself.  It's a 3 disc CAV, letterboxed
jonke> (matted?  Don't know which) set.  The movie is on the first 4
jonke> sides and the other 2 are filled with extras.  Among lots of
jonke> other stuff will be an interview with Ridley Scott and
jonke> storyboard to actual movie comparisons.  The new tranfer is
jonke> being supervised by Scott.  List price will be the same as for
jonke> Aliens S.E., that is, $100 (US).  That's all I know about it so
jonke> far.  Any body else have more detailed info?

It will be released October 1st (or so they say). If you order it from
Sight and Sound you can get it for 15% off. I thought it was 3-discs
for the movie (6 sides) with the 4th disc for suppliments.
--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: robe@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (robert.g.egan)
Subject: Re: TRON on free DISNEY this weekend, was Re: Looking for Tron LD
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:51:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.230457.12095@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, vibrad@os2dce06.austin.ibm.com writes:
> 
> The one thing to note is that (unless you otherwise request) they open up and
> check each LD they send out and it the disc plays fine on their player then 
> they will put a little sticker (not an obnoxious one, it is about the 
> size/type that go on VHS cassettes to prevent the opening of the cassette and
> alert the renter of it) on it and ship it to you.  You then have a life long
> garantee against problems with the disc.  You can request that they dont 
> open the disc at all and you will have to deal directory with the manufacturer
> for a replacement disc.
> 
> (I have done it both ways) - no problems either way
> 

Are you saying that they view each and every ld entirely looking for major
flaws like laser lock or minor ones like white speckles? What's their
pass/fail criteria? How can they ever send out any discs? In an 8 hr
day you could watch or wait for 4 or 5 movies to finish playing. Sounds
more like they open them up to watch them and use the excuse of "quality
check" so they can still sell them.
From: fineberg@win31.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Coming out of the closet...
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:19:57 GMT
Reply-To: fineberg@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: usa
Organization: CSC, NASA Ames Research Center, NAS Division

In article <1992Aug27.141932.4944@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>, jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
|> In article <BtMnx8.1I7@egsner.cirr.com>, datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
|> > 
|> > >Incidentally, 16:9 is the same as 1.77:1. So for a 1.85:1 ratio film,
|> > >you're only losing about 4% of the image.  Obviously this is not a big deal,
|> > 
|> > Yes, it *is* a big deal, just like Academy films getting chopped to NTSC.
|> > I've noted a number of times that text -- eg., credits and newspapers --
|> > gets truncated.
|> > 
|> > 
|> 
|> Actually, I agree with you completely, but usually if I say such a thing
|> I get blasted!  And the problem with Acadmey to NTSC is not as bad as it
|> will be for 1.85:1 to HDTV!  I've got a wait and see attitude about HDTV,
|> but my initial impression is that it will make for great TV, but make the
|> situation for movie transfers much, much worse.  I expect to see letterboxing
|> dissapear completely, because distributors will think, "16:9 is close enough"
|> even for 2.35:1 and wider films.....
|> 
|> Steve
|> 
|> Steve
I for one would be very disapointed if HDTV movies were not still letterboxed.
However, remember that the market is consumer driven.  Letterboxed movies were
non-existant a few years ago, so if people continue to insist on letterboxing,
I am sure that is what the manufacturers will do.  The good news is that a 
2.35:1 movie on a 16:9 screen will fill substantially more of the screen than
it does on an NTSC set.  This should be a lot better for people that don't like
to see 1/2 of thier screen filled with black bars.

Sam
From: davidh@dogamus.Eng.Sun.COM (David Herington)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: SMPTE and EDL's (SMPTE address)
Date: 31 Aug 1992 19:23:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: davidh@dogamus.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: dogamus

In article 29160@javelin.sim.es.com, gold@imp.sim.es.com (Bruce Gold) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.011017.834@umr.edu>, (Brian Quandt) writes:
>|> 
>|> Does SMPTE have an email address?
>
>
>In the SMPTE Journal, the address is published thus:
>
>	Society of Motion Picture and Television Engineers
>	595 West Hartsdale Ave.
>	White Plains, NY
>	10607
>
>Incidentally, I find the "SMPTE Journal" to be an excellent publication.
>-- 
>				Bruce Gold
>				   Utah




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From: long-morrow@cs.yale.edu (H. Morrow Long)
Newsgroups: rec.video,rec.video.cable-tv,rec.video.releases,rec.video.satellite,rec.arts.disney
Subject: TRON on free DISNEY this weekend, was Re: Looking for Tron LD
Followup-To: rec.video.releases
Date: 25 Aug 1992 17:16:45 -0000
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sparky.cf.cs.yale.edu


If you can't find a TRON LD or tape the Disney Channel will be showing
it during its free preview weekend (this weekend which I believe is
4 days : Fri Aug 28 - Mon Aug 31).  Your cabal disservice or satellite
dish may vary.

I think Disney is going to show TRON Sunday or Monday night.  Check
your television guide for local listings.  This rare movie has been
out of print on video for a long time and I haven't heard any rumors
about a re-release.

					- Morrow

In article <1992Aug22.203246.110019@zeus.calpoly.edu>, claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight)) writes:
|> Anyone know of a store that still has Tron in stock?  Please forward me a
|> number and/or post it.  Thanks.
|> 
|> Oh, and please PLEASE no offers to sell me a LD.  I want to deal with stores
|> only.  Thanks.
|> -- 
|> ---King Claudius---                                   claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu