Newsgroups: soc.culture.asian.american,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Caucasion Whimps?  You be the judge!
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 13:17:14 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:

> In article <30DTXB6w165w@batpad.lgb.ca.us> larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry
> Greenfield) writes:
> >underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
> >> However, if Ms. Ayala is referring to Taiwan, then note that Taiwan is
> >> part of the PRC and that Taiwan was fortunate enough to have been occupied
> >Huh?  Gee, I'd like to know where you get your "information" Dwight. 
> >Taiwan is NOT part of the PRC, no matter how much Beijing wishes it 
> >were.
> 
> I refer Mr. Greenfield to the papers that normalized relations between
> 
>           (1) the People's Republic of China (PRC) and the U.S.A.
>           (2) the PRC and Japan
>           (3) the PRC and South Korea (1992)
> 
> As is customary in a civil war, the winning side is the one that is recognize
> 
> The situation between the Chinese-cu gov't on Taiwan and the Chinese-cu gov't
> on the PRC is a stalemated civil war.  Both claim control of approximately
> the same regions, which includes Taiwan.
> 
> Since the Taiwanese-ci on Taiwan haven't had the guts to declare independence
> then the West and Japan can do nothing.  They have already recognized the
> side (the PRC side) that they believe to be the legitimate gov't of the
> region encompassing the PRC and Taiwan.  From a political point of view, the
> gov't on Taiwan doesn't exist in the eyes of the West and Japan.
> 
> Further, U.S. policy should be consistent with their having chosen the
> side that they want to recognize.  Namely, all weapons sales to Taiwan
> should be halted, and the immigration quota of about 50,000 (if memory
> serves) for Taiwan should be eliminated.  Any Taiwanese-ci wishing to 
> emigrate to the U.S.A. must first obtain a visa from the gov't on the PRC and
> should be placed on the PRC's emigration quota.
> 
> It's too bad if the Taiwanese-ci don't like this consistency that _should_ be
> implemented in U.S. foreign policy.  This is the _price_ of lacking the guts
> to declare independence.
> 
> The current U.S. policy to sell weapons to Taiwan would be like the P.R.C.
> selling weapons to California to encourage it's secession.  Both positions
> are inappropriate.
> 
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Dwight, one thing you'll learn when you grow up is not to take 
everything at face value, but to take things the way they ARE.  The 
PRC, in the forseable future, will NOT take Taiwan as its own. It is 
a separate country, no matter what some papers say.  Everyone in the 
entire world knows this.  Both want to be the "sole"China, but that 
still cannot reconsile the fact that Taiwan is NOT part of the PRC 
nor is the PRC part of Taiwan right now.   
   The UN still flies the flag of the Khmer Rouge for Cambodia, even 
though the KR are the "rebels".  Regardless of what the UN's position 
on ROC is, you should not go around making statements saying "Taiwan 
is part of the ROC" -- IT IS NOT.  You should lift your head out of 
papers and take a look in the real world. If you wish to point out 
that the PRC has some claim on the ROC, then by all means do so in 
your posts, but anyone reading your posts who didn't know better 
would think that Taiwan IN REALITY is under control of the PRC. 
Perhaps you can try to be clearer in the future.
:::::Larry:::::

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