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From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: Connect 2 modems directly without going through phone system
Organization: very little
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:49:33 GMT

In article <1a4ls7INNj95@gap.caltech.edu> rli@cco.caltech.edu (Rongsheng Li) writes:
>
>I need to make two notebook PC talk to each other but all they got
>are the FAX Modems. They do not have an extra RS232 port to connect
>them directly.  Can I directly connect the two modem without
>going through the phone system ? How can I do not ?
>
>If it is not possible, are there any alternatives ?
>
>Responses are greatly appreciated.
>
>

Get a Proctor Telephone Demonstrator.  There are two and four line models,'
and what they do is simulate telephone lines.  They have real phone jacks
with real sounding dial tone, and anything you plug into them will act
the same as on real phone lines.

They are available from:

Proctor & Associates
15050 NE 36th St.
Redmond, WA  98052-5317

Phone:  206-881-7000
Fax:    206-885-3282
Internet:  3991080@mcimail.com

The four line unit costs $475.00, and the two line unit is about $260.00.



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From: gerrit@laosinh.stgt.sub.org (Gerrit Heitsch)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra New ROM (ordering info)
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 20:12:09 MET
Organization: Lao-Sinh project (private UUCP site)

In article <1992Sep30.180805.19954@ntmtv>, Andrew West writes:

> >>        MNP10  -  Dec. 92 
> >>        V23  -  Dec. 92
> 
> Can anybody clarify what feature these provide?  I *think* MNP10 is
> error checking for international and cellular lines, but I've never
> heard of V23.
V.23 is standard used for the german videotex-system. It is (nearly) only
used for this purpose because of the unusable speed:
1200 bps in one direction an 75 bps in the other. It is not
possible to change the direction or the fast channel, the station which 
uses 75 bps after connection does this until closing the connection.

I don't think, that you miss something without V.23.

Gerrit

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From: anto@dutetvd.tudelft.nl (Anto Daryanto)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: V32 or V32bis?
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:09:17 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

Hi netters,  
I just bought a faxmodem 96/144. But when I look into  the chip modem(?)
I read: "AT&T V.32 - INTFC".  Can you tell me if this is only a 9600 bps
modem? Is there any way to check this out without connect to another
modem?

Thanks in advance,
Anto Daryanto
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From: thorh@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Thor Hallen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXel/Digicom/Supra(?!?) Recommend???
Date: 30 Sep 92 06:25:06 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Sep28.141000.1@wharton.upenn.edu> poe@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
>The Supra was named for many bugs, and the Rockwell chipset was
>said as being unreliable over noisy lines.
>
>I've heard of numerous ROM patches for the Supra, and I can only assume
>that MacUser tested the newest one. Can anyone out there tell me about
>the reliability of the new Supra ROMs?

As near as I can tell, the new ROM chips don't improve anything. I would
never purchase a Supra again.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: tore@cs.uit.no (Tore Larsen)
Subject: Problems with my QBlazer
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:27:03 GMT

Hi,

Do you have any hints that will get me past this problem with my modem?

My Telebit QBlazer (S/N: QB 22704) does not return any responses to my
notebook computer (Compudyne 4DX/33).

When I turn on the modem the "MR" LED starts flashing.

When I start the communications softare (MTEZ, Windows 3.1 "Terminal", or
Crosstalk for Windows) the "DTR" LED goes on and stays on until I exit the
software.

As I touch any of the keys on the keyboard the "SD" LED will go on and stay
on for a few seconds.

However there are no responses at all from the modem and the "RD" LED does 
not flash at all.  When trying to dial the MTEZ software reports that there
is no response from the modem and suggests to check the connection and 
wether I'm using the right COM port.

The modem is fairly new and previously worked.

When I replace the modem with an identical QBlazer (S/N: 22705) using the
same cable, software and settings I do get the expected responses from the 
modem.

Incidentally, using a different notebook with the two modems gave the same
results.

I have tried resetting the modem and recalling factory settings to no avail.

Do you have any suggestions?

Is there any sort of "hard reset" for the modem?

Do you know of a non-800 number for Telebit? (I'll be calling from Norway
and the 800 numbers only work in the U.S.)
From: shwake@nearside.UUCP (Raymond Shwake)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: 400 External vs. 14.4EX <was: Intel>
Keywords: intel sfax 400 connect 2400 problem
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:01:12 GMT
Organization: A/C International


	Intel's 14.4EX seems to earn high marks, from what I read in this
forum. Is the successor SatisFaxtion 400E (external) as worthy? Since a few
sources still stock the 14.4EX - typically for a few bucks *more* than the
ostensibly more capable 400E - I called Intel to ask if there was any reason
*not* to go with the 400E. I was told that the 400E is an overall better
modem, that a few bugs from the older 14.4EX are now gone, and that the only
reason the 14.4EX was still around was that some of their customers won't
buy a modem with FAX capabilities.
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From: cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra New ROM (ordering info)
Keywords: ROM
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 12:20:06 +1200
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hovel Bulletin Board System

kc2x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kwan-Ju Chen) writes:

> It has been exact 1 week since I ordered the new rom from SUPRA BBS.  I
> have not received the rom yet!!!!!!
> What's the problem? 

You've been able to wait 1 whole week.  Congratulations.  Try waiting 3 more
weeks, because don't forget everyone else has ordered theirs too.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,biz.comp.telebit
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Info on Telebit vs ZyXEL please
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:47:28 GMT

johnn@eskimo.celestial.com (John Navitsky) writes:

>I'm getting some vibes from this.  This phrase has significant negative 
>conotations.  In fact, sounds like my experiances with the HST :-).  Are
>there more particular reasons for this, or is the 10-15% throughput and
>more money significant motivators?!

I consider the 10-15% increase in throughput very important.  You might
not.  I mean what I said -- if you don't care or need PEP support,
then by all means don't go with the WB modems since the majority
of the features and better performance can be had from another v.32bis
modem.

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From: Petty@ralvm29.VNET.IBM.COM (Jack Petty)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 09:23:26 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: V.25bis Modems
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <1992Oct4.123211.21186@m2xenix.psg.com> Steven Frazier writes:
>I am looking for a MFG/model number for a V.25 bis Modem for use on x.25.
>Could someone email me a MFG and model number that runs v.25 bis?
>
>
>Steve
>
The IBM 7855 and 5853 modems both support V.25 bis.  The 5853 is a 2400 bps
modem that supports only synchronous V.25 bis.  The 7855 is a 12000 bps modem
that supports both asynchronous and synchronous V.25 bis.

Jack Petty
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt)
Subject: 8 bits + parity for V.42 
Summary: Does this work on any V.42 modems?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:27:52 GMT


I have an application where the current hardwired connection between
two computers will now be a long-distance modem connection. We our
looking at using V.32bis/V.42/V.42bis modems for the application.

We're having a problem finding a vendor that can deal with the
application's parameters:

8 bits data
1 parity bit -- even parity
1 stop bit
DTE connected at 9600bps

We want the connection to be running with [V.42] error correction, and
we don't want to modify the current software/firmware.

The problem is that at least two modem vendors claim that they can
only send 8-bit data with a V.42 error-correcting connection. I say:
"Fine: only send the 8 bits connection between the modems, and use the
UART in the modem to generate the parity." Apparently, this is not
possible in some V.42 implementations.

My question: is this the case for all V.42 implementations? Does the
V.42 spec explicitly specify only the modem-modem protocol, or does it
also explicitly include the DTE-DCE interfaces? Why, in fact, can't
the parity be generated on the modems on each endpoint? 

If this indeed is a wired-in feature of V.42, what about the other
error-correcting protocols out there? Would folks recommend Telebits?
Are they indeed able to send 8 bits + a parity bit over an
error-correcting link? Any other recommendations?

If you like, send e-mail and I'll summarize responses.

Thanks,
phil
From: smp@myamig2.myamiga.mixcom.com (Steve Palm)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra New ROM (ordering info)
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:10:19 GMT
Organization: Proud Linux Site, Milwaukee WI
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

rlosey@sdf.lonestar.org (Richard Losey) writes:
: In article <muysvasovic-290992170406@17.67.4.114> muysvasovic@applelink.apple.com (Jean-Denis Muys-Vasovic) writes:
: >In article <blaby.717741060@sfu.ca>, blaby@fraser.sfu.ca (John Edward
: >Blaby) wrote:
: >> 
: >> Hmm..I notice that the latest upgrade still does not include the
: >> promised mnp10. Has anyone heard anything about the lately?
: >> 
: >> If I am not mistaken, MNP10 is mentioned on the box the modem came in!
: >> 
: >
: >ditto for V23!!
: 
: Don't know about the V23, but Supra has stated that Rockwall promised that the
: chip would support MNP-10 and it is Rockwall that has not put it in.

 Irregardless of that, Supra is at fault for not providing it.  If you sell
 a product and advertise it as having a certain feature, you and you alone
 are responsible for the inclusion of that feature.
 
 Sure, Supra got the bad end of this deal, but they alone are the ones who
 must sweat it out.  They may have legal recourse against Rockwell,
 depending on the terms of the agreement that prompted Supra to make the
 claims.

--
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Milwaukee, WI
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: V32bis download speeds
Keywords: V32bis ZMODEM
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:06:58 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Laurence Chiu) writes:

>... Calling a BBS with a USR Dual (14.4 v32bis) the most I can
>get using zmodem and zipped files on a download is about 1480cps. 
>My question is, is this a symptom of not having a 16550A UART? 

I have a '286 with no-name I/O chips, and have gotten slightly better rates
than that... I have a PPI 14.4, and lock my port at 19.2 on high-speed connx.
Calling a Supra 14.4 I get up to about 1500cps on zipfiles and over 1800 on
"normal" files.  Calling another PPI, I've gotten almost 1650cps on zipfiles.

I suspect it's probably just that your Boca and their USR aren't the best of
friends.  1480 isn't all that bad, for sending zips.

-Shag
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Subject: Re: Hacking USR ROMS  [4.2 - 4.1]
Keywords: Supervisors.ROM.Hacks
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:35:53 GMT

In article <ahaigh.718397898@unixg.ubc.ca> ahaigh@unixg.ubc.ca (Andrew B Haigh) writes:
>  I have just purchased a USR Sportster and I was wondering if there is any way to hack the ROM code in the Supervisor 4.2 that would return it to the 4.1 configuration and enable the modem to operate as a 16.8 Dual Standard. 
>
>					Thank You  Andrew Haigh
>						   ahaigh@unixg.ubc.ca

This is HIGHLY illegal!!!!  Why I think people who purchased a Sportster
for what it is, an inexpensive v.32bis modem, and had v4.1 ROMS were just
lucky, I think it is extremely wrong on your part to buy a Sportster 
expressly for the purpose of using it as a DS.

Now if you had bought it just for a Sportster and later found out that
if you had v4.1 instead of v4.2 ROM you could have a DS, I will again
point out that "hacking" ROM code is AGAINST THE LAW!

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jhi@netcom.com (John Im)
Subject: Re: 40% Discount of ZyXELs
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:15:58 GMT

In article <1015346.2AD172AE@cmhgate.fidonet.org> Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) writes:
>
>geee....ummmm....last I checked, I can't do ANSI graphics on my Mac.  And of

Actually, there are comm programs that let you see ANSI graphics on the Mac.

What I'd like to know, is how do you create the screens?


>I guess the Zero One Networking folks are under the same illusion that US
>Robotics is--that the world contains nothing but DOS machines.

Sure seems that way.  If you call the BBS, one of the questions they ask
you is what computer you use.  They list just about every Intel processor,
but no Macs.  They don't even have an "Other" choice.

- John
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From: black@seismo.CSS.GOV (Mike Black)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,comp.protocols.misc
Subject: What is MODBUS?
Date: 3 Oct 92 17:17:14 GMT
Followup-To: comp.dcom.modems
Organization: Center for Seismic Studies, Arlington, VA

Someone asked me about MODBUS (sp?) and stumped me.  Does anyone
know what this is or where one might find specifications?
Mike...
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From: eadie5295@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 14400bps throughput
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:38:25 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

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Subject: Re: 14400bps throuhput
From: maarten@fwi.uva.nl (Maarten Carels)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:57:27 GMT
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam

hwstock@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (stockman harlan w) writes:

>>When I download files from bulletin boards, I rarely get above 1420 cps (for 
>>highly compressed files; ymodem-g transfers are trivially faster).

>1420 bytes / second is not that bad on a 14400 baud line (which transfers
>at most 1440 bytes per second!)

--maarten

  On the contrary, LAP-M, as I have heard, gives a 20% increase in throughput.
When downloading, I usually get 1610 bytes/sec with ZModem.  But uploading
(with an Intel 400) I can initially get 2500, which slows down gradually and
eventually hovers at around 1750.  And this is with .ARJ files.

  1440 cps is most certainly NOT the limit in a 14400 connection and, in my
opinion, 1420 bytes/second sucks.
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From: Zero.One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Does ZyXEL do autodetection of fax?
Date: 23 Sep 92 16:35:37 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Sep 21 1992


 > In article <1992Sep19.011226.26678@lth.se> d87mt@efd.lth.se
 > (Magnus
 > Thelander) writes:
 >>
 >>    As far as I know, ZyXEL claims, that their U-1496E and U-1496
 >> models automatically detect, if an incoming call is fax or a
 >> modem call. How well does this work? I'd appreciate answers from
 >> owners of one of these two modems.

 > I'm using the U-1496E on a NeXTcube. I bought it specifically
 > because
 > there is software available (NXFax from B and W Software) that
 > lets me
 > take advantage of the autodetect for fax. It's great now that I
 > can use
 > one telephone line and one fax/modem to handle incoming and
 > outgoing
 > uucp and fax. The ZyXEL works like a champ. Also, unlike the Intel
 >
 > 9600EX that I replaced, the ZyXEL runs stone cold. That may not
 > make
 > much difference, but it makes me feel better anyway.

 > I haven't tried it with my PC yet, but I guess I should just to
 > compare
 > the performance between the two machines.

John,

The modem does not rely on the type of computer or software running to detect 
whether it's a fax or data call.  It would perform with the same results.

Tyrone Horton
(Zero One)
Tech Support
ZyXEL USA

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From: scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Dunn)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Good, cheap 14.4K modems (UK)
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:15:03 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

Hi,

I don't know if my first post got through, apologies if it did.

As you have gathered from the title, I am looking for a "good, cheap
14.4K modem".

Computer Shopper (UK) recently ran a review of modems sub 1000 pounds
(my budget is closer to 400 pounds) in which they looked at the Image
Twincom (14.4K, V42bis, fax etc).  They said it was excellent value
but was liable to dropping speed to 9600 moer often than not.

Does anyone have an opinion on this modem?  Or, can you recommend an
alternative around the 3-400 pound mark.

Cheers,

Scott.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra ROM shipping ... and their CIS ID???
From: cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross)
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 09:51:45 +1200
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hovel Bulletin Board System
Keywords: Supra

behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens) writes:

> Hi,
> 
> waiting 1 month for the update is a bit tough, as I get frequently kicked
> off by my LAP-M, can't connect to the most important machines I'd like
> to use, etc. So, after looking into the manual, I lack one vital piece
> of information: What's the CIS address of Supra?


General (503) 967-2400 / Sales (503) 967-2410 / Fax (503) 967-2401
Supra Tech Support  (503) 967-2440  8:00am - 5:00pm PST, M-F
Supra BBS........(503) 967-2444  24 Hours
CompuServe.......76004,565
BIX..............SupraCorp
America Online...SupraCorp2
GEnie............SupraTech
AppleLink........D2456
UseNet EMail.....supra@supra.uucp


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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jlasanen@vipunen.hut.fi (Jukka-Pekka Lasanen)
Subject: Re: Supra modem power adaptor
Reply-To: jlasanen@vipunen.hut.fi (Jukka-Pekka Lasanen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:04:31 GMT


>	Yes I have the same problem, I have to keep the modem on for my  
>automatics polls, and yesterday the DC adaptor (european version 230V) is dead  
>! I think 1000 mA it s not enough, I am trying a 1,5 Amp adaptor.
>
>  Sam Przyswa                                   << Rockn Jazz BBS >>


I have had a Supra Fax Modem Plus for about a week and two supra's power
adapters (220V AC 50 mA 50 Hz/ 9V AC 500 mA) have died after being on for
an hour or two and getting very hot. I replaced them with  a 230V 70 mA,
9V 10.5 VA power adapter which gets only slightly warm and has worked
without problems so far.

--
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: mju@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us (Marc Unangst)
Subject: Re: Supra New ROM (ordering info)
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 14:56:38 GMT
Organization: The Programmer's Pit Stop, Ann Arbor MI
Keywords: ROM

In article <8Na5RB6w165w@hovel.welly.gen.nz> cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross) writes:
>You've been able to wait 1 whole week.  Congratulations.  Try waiting 3 more
>weeks, because don't forget everyone else has ordered theirs too.

However, also keep in mind that Supra has promised to customers that
ordered the $20 Caller-ID ROM that their order would be shipped within
three days, and that it would be shipped by UPS second-day air.  This
means that you should have the ROMs in your hot little hands in (3+2)
or 5 business days after the order was placed.

Supra knew what the demand would be; that's one reason they're not
taking telephone orders.  If they couldn't manage to get the ROMs out
within three days, they shouldn't have promised to do so.

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From: Brenda_Donovan@p1.f701.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: ZyXEL U1496E+
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:23:03 GMT
Reply-To: Brenda_Donovan@p1.f701.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Distribution: jadpc2
Comment-To: Marc_E._Gauthier@p1.f701.n202.z1.fidonet.org
X-FSC-PATH: 202/701


 >>But the point being made by Andreas was, that if the current line
of ZyXEL
 >>modems wouldn't be upgradeable to V.fast PLUS V.42bis but just to
V.fast
 >>w/o compression he'd prefere an upgrade path even w/o V.42bis.

 > Yes, even if it means yet another configuration bit, so
 > that the modem
 > would only negotiate V.fast w/o V.42bis if you set that
 > bit.  This way,
 > those who might be hampered by such a configuration would
 > not get it
 > (so perhaps the default state for that bit should be off).

 > Do any ZyXEL people read this newsgroup?  Is there any
 > email address
 > to which we can send suggestions like this?

yes - ZyXEL Tech Support reads this conference...

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