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From: easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton)
Subject: Re: snail-like ESDI; about these new monitors...
Organization: Zenith Data Systems, OEM Systems Engineering
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:51:17 GMT
Keywords: ESDI, slow, ZDS monitors

In article <1hsi4oINNmve@shelley.u.washington.edu> djo7613@hardy.u.washington.edu (Dick O'Connor) writes:
>End of the year miscellaneous queries :)
>
>(2) What is WITH all these ZDS monitors, anyway?  I mean, can somebody please
>post some specs on this bewildering array of new model numbers so we can
>figure out what's going on?  (Have I been watching too much Seinfeld?)  What

  Wow, and you sounded just like him. :-)

>on earth is a ZDS-284m?  Is it like anything we've seen before from ZDS?
>How about the ZDS-394m?  Point 39 dot pitch, are we supposed to take this
>seriously, or has ZDS found a way to make .39 look clean and clear?  A relative
>was interested in buying a ZDS 386SX/25 bundle available at a local discount
>shop (BEST), but they had none on display, and I couldn't recommend a bundle 
>with a .39 monitor I knew nothing else about.  Can someone from ZDS please
>post relevant specs about all the current monitors, especially tidbits like
>what they are intended to replace (if anything), and who makes them? ;)

  As I understand it (therfore I could be wrong :-)  These monitors and
systems are from the mass merchandising effort.  They have nothing in
common with the more traditional ZDS products that are designed in 
St. Joseph.  The PC's are built using standard components (standardized 
PCB layout, standard power supply, standard Phoenix type BIOS, etc.)
that are sourced in the Far East.  If you are familiar with the typical
ZDS machine (what ever that is :-) you will notice a difference.

>"Moby" Dick O'Connor                                 djo7613@u.washington.edu 

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From: jwhite@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Joseph White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: How do you reset the password!?!?
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:01:12 GMT
Reply-To: jwhite@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Joseph White)
Distribution: na
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC  Code 2723 
	      (formerly David Taylor Research Center, Annapolis MD)

Help is needed as soon as possible, please respond

I know this has been covered before, but I didn't think anyone here
would be such an a_____e.  The department seceratary, came in today,
and someone has set her BIOS password, while she was out, and now her
computer is useless.

The computer is a Z 386/25, if it matters.

Is there any way short of replacing the BIOS chips to remove the
unknown password.

Please respond ASAP

Joe White
jwhite@oasys.dt.navy.mil
From: jwhite@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Joseph White)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: Re: How do you reset the password!?!?
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:34:51 GMT
Reply-To: jwhite@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Joseph White)
Distribution: na
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC  Code 2723 
	      (formerly David Taylor Research Center, Annapolis MD)



No need to reply anymore, the problem has been solved

Joe White
I didn't solve it, so don't ask me how it was done
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
From: jeff@eng.umd.edu (Jeffrey Frey)
Subject: Minisport Screens/Modems?
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 19:12:25 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

Someone recently queried here for a source of MiniSports.  I wouldn't
part with mine, (not that I use it all that much) but wonder if anyone
DOES know a source of SCREENS or MODEMS for MiniSports.  Is there
any better screen (i.e., more contrast--even if not backlit) than
the original EL backlit screen available?  And, are there any 2400 baud
modems around?  My 1200 is useful, but.....

Jeff
From: mccormac@pooh.usafa.af.mil (Chris McCormack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: Hard Sector Diskettes for Cheap!
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:20:52 GMT
Reply-To: mccormac@pooh.usafa.af.mil
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


   I recently acquired a case of Verbatim double sided / double density / 10
sector diskettes.  I would love to trade these (all 260 of them!) to someone
who could give them a good home.  The disks appear brand new, and only 3 or 4
seem to ever have been removed from their dust jackets.
						Chris McCormack
						mccormac@ee.usafa.af.mil
From: "jim conners" <jim.conners@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: apology to zenith bbs
Date: 24 Dec 92 02:58:51 EST
Reply-To: "jim conners" <jim.conners@execnet.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Executive Networks Information

It seems that I took out my frustration form the whole week, on Zenith
and the Zenith BBS last Friday evening.  It's true that Zenith shipped
me the wrong Laptop (although it had the part no. of the machine that I
ordered on it).  The problem was it was Friday evening and there was no 
way to resolve it, except maybe their BBS where I ordered the used
Laptop.  I got in to the BBS and it would not take my pw.  Talking to
the sysop today, I found out that I used CAPS when I selected my pw and
the pw's are case sensitive.  After that attempt with the BBS,  I could
no longer get passed CONNECT when I dialed in.  In talking with Fran
( the sysop ) today, I found out that the BBS had gone down.  I guess
Zenith and the World was not plotting against me.  It was just the 
circumstances and my impatience.  I had also left a message on Fran's
tape machine Monday.  She called me today (more than once) until she
finally reached me.  She told me that there is no problem returning
the computer since it was not what I ordered.  UPS will pick it up.
Fran also told me that this was a rare occurance and that I should
not lose my faith in Zenith.  I will get a full refund, and I can
decide if I want to reorder.  Will I reorder?  Well, I just don't
know.  But I have to go now, so taht I can logon to the Zenith BBS 
and check the prices.  In case you don't have the # it's
708-808-2264.  Sorry for taking up everyones time.

jim
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
From: rodger@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu (Rodger Henson)
Subject: Z-Server problems
Organization: Wake Forest University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:44:04 GMT
X-Posted-From: rodger.center.wfu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I have a Z-Server 433DE that locks during the POST (code 690) I have already 
tried resetting the NVRAM with no luck.  Any ideas would be appreciated.  
Thanks in advance.


Rodger Henson
rodger@ac.wfunet.wfu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
From: CFRYE@kentvm.kent.edu (Cal Frye)
Subject: Old minisport source?
Organization: Kent State Univ.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 15:00:09 GMT

I've got a small desire for one of the old 2.5" floppy/2 MB RAMdisk Minisports.
Supposedly, there are folks selling 'em for about $200, which is the range I
covet.  Maybe it's the holidays, but no one I call is in.  Anybody know of
similar sources for these dinosaurs?
From: djo7613@hardy.u.washington.edu (Dick O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: snail-like ESDI; about these new monitors...
Keywords: ESDI, slow, ZDS monitors
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:18:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

End of the year miscellaneous queries :)

(1) I've got a Z386/25 with one of the older DTC 10MHz ESDI controllers in
it running a NEC 150MB ESDI drive.  I always thought it was a bit slow.  I
just added a SCSI drive and I *really* saw a difference so I used the 
benchmark programs in PCTools to compare the two.  On seeks and positioning,
the two drives are very similar, but the SCSI has a Data Transfer Rate of
around 900K/s, while the ESDI comes in at 53K/s!  Is this controller slow
or is something maladjusted in the system?  This model controller doesn't 
have DIP switches, and the only jumper blocks I can identify (3 all told)
appear to be for testing purposes.  (Jeff Easton told me what they did
once, but I don't have my notes here.  Suffice to say none of them
enabled 'tortoise' mode, as I recall...).  Maybe SMARTdrive was running at
the time.  Would this cause such a discrepancy?

(2) What is WITH all these ZDS monitors, anyway?  I mean, can somebody please
post some specs on this bewildering array of new model numbers so we can
figure out what's going on?  (Have I been watching too much Seinfeld?)  What
on earth is a ZDS-284m?  Is it like anything we've seen before from ZDS?
How about the ZDS-394m?  Point 39 dot pitch, are we supposed to take this
seriously, or has ZDS found a way to make .39 look clean and clear?  A relative
was interested in buying a ZDS 386SX/25 bundle available at a local discount
shop (BEST), but they had none on display, and I couldn't recommend a bundle 
with a .39 monitor I knew nothing else about.  Can someone from ZDS please
post relevant specs about all the current monitors, especially tidbits like
what they are intended to replace (if anything), and who makes them? ;)

Have a very Happy New Year.  Go Huskies, Beat the Wolverines!!!!!!!!!!!!!

-- 
"Moby" Dick O'Connor                                 djo7613@u.washington.edu 
Wash. Dept. of Fisheries   *When the going gets tough, the tough go fishing!*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
From: mr@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli)
Subject: Motherboard upgrade options for 286lp?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 02:01:46 GMT


I know this was brought up several months ago, but there wasn't any
discussion on it...  Anyhow, has anyone put a 386 or 486 baby
motherboard in the 286lp chasis?  What about the backplane card?  Do
other vendors support the backplane configuration?   What about the
stock power supply?  Would that need upgrading?  If so, from whom?
So many questions!

Many thanks...   

--
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mr@cica.indiana.edu
regoli@indiana.BITNET
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From: djo7613@hardy.u.washington.edu (Dick O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: 486 motherboards for Z386's
Keywords: 486, motherboards, Z386
Date: 28 Dec 92 19:36:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1hnl09INNd2i
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: hardy.u.washington.edu

Has anyone upgraded a full-size case Z386 using a 486-based motherboard?
I've been asked to evaluate the potential for doing this to a small number
of machines here.  I'm especially interested to know if there are any
decent third-party boards that fit the Zenith case without resorting to drilling
extra holes! Thanks...

-- 
"Moby" Dick O'Connor                                 djo7613@u.washington.edu 
Wash. Dept. of Fisheries   *When the going gets tough, the tough go fishing!*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith.z100
From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Subject: writing a custom-character to screen...
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:15:40 GMT

got a question that's been bugging me for a couple days...  I wish to write a
custom-character (from assembly-language program) to a *specific* screen
location (column 80 of line 25, since that line doesn't scroll normally...).
the char is defined thusly --

char	db	{a byte}
	db	{a byte}

etcetera, for 9 bytes (coresponding to the 9 scanlines in a character)

the char is then displayed via this code fragment --

(assume -- ax holds segment address for the desired color-plane and di holds
the offset of the character mask -- 'char' as described above)

	mov	es,ax
	mov	sx,9		; 9 scanlines
	mov	si,79		; row 1, col 80
g_v_l:	mov	ax,es:[si]	; read a row from chosen screen location
	mov	bx,cs:[di]	; read a row from character mask
	xor	ax,bx		; invert 'em
	mov	es:[si],ax	; write 'em to the screen
	add	si,128		; next row of screen
	inc	di		; next row of char mask
	loop	g_v_l

okay, my problem is -- how do I go about determining the 'start point' to get
row 25, col 80 of the screen?  I interpret all the information that exists to
tell me that I should use 9*24*128+79 to get me to the 80th column in row 25.
*but* it doesn't work... what am I missing?  incidentally -- the arithmetic
above is based upon _9_ scanlines per char, _24_ character rows, _128_ bytes
per character rows and _79_ character-positions to 'skip' in the first scanline
of character row 25 (see the example code, the '79' in mov si,79 *does* put me
at row 1, col 80)...  I feel I *must* be missing something quite basic...

Walt K.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith.z100
From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Subject: Re: writing a custom-character to screen...
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:55:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.131540.23725@nosc.mil> koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz) writes:

a description of a character_mask... and a fragment of code... and then the
following arithmetic discussion...

>okay, my problem is -- how do I go about determining the 'start point' to get
>row 25, col 80 of the screen?  I interpret all the information that exists to
>tell me that I should use 9*24*128+79 to get me to the 80th column in row 25.
>*but* it doesn't work... what am I missing?  incidentally -- the arithmetic
>above is based upon _9_ scanlines per char, _24_ character rows, _128_ bytes
>per character rows and _79_ character-positions to 'skip' in the first scanline
>of character row 25 (see the example code, the '79' in mov si,79 *does* put me
>at row 1, col 80)...  I feel I *must* be missing something quite basic...

>Walt K.

ummmm, yes, I *was* missing something *very* basic...  there are *16*
scanlines, not 9...  using the relationship:

	rrow = 16*24*128+79

lets me place the character at row 25, column 80 using the code-fragment shown
earlier... (that code-fragment was originally written by W. Ching and was
re-printed in an article in "Z-100 Life Line", issue #17)

Many thanks to gern for giving me the key piece to this puzzle...

Walt K.
From: rkothari@uceng.uc.edu (Ravi Kothari)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.zenith
Subject: Zenith 386DX, 20MHZ, 70 MB Hard Disk, ZCM 1492 ($1000.00)
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:46:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati


 I have the following machine for sale:

 Zenith 386DX, 20MHz machine 
 70 MB Hard disk (ESDI type 100), 16.5 ms access
 3 1/2 inch 1.44 MB Floppy drive
 2 MB of RAM
 Z549 VGA card
 ZCM 1492 FTM (Flat Tension Mask) VGA Color monitor
	Flat screen , Non-Glare 
 101 Key Keyboard, 2 Serial ports, 1 Parallel port

 Original manuals that it came with. 

In excellent condition. $1000.00 or best (reasonable) offer.
Buyer pays shipping. Please E-Mail to address below.

Ravi.Kothari@uc.edu
From: andrew@zone4.ocunix.on.ca (Andrew Low)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: BBS's
Organization: Zone4
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 17:15:01 GMT

In article <28876@optima.cs.arizona.edu> 
mcbride@cs.arizona.edu (Chris M. McBride) writes:
>
>BUT I lied. Think Twice is the first demo to use FLD a kind of
>predecessor to FLI. The same technique is used in both methods.

I'd disagree.. If FLD is what I was lead to believe it is then the first
time I saw it was by Changeling in the Aftershock demo, but I'm sure there
were others which came before him.  It uses the same sort of method, but 
the idea and timing are far different.  

Simplistic FLD code:

	LDX current raster line
	LDY funky video chip value ($D011 I think)
	STY video chip
FOO:	CPX raster line ($D012)
	BEQ FOO
	INY			(I can't remember if you increment or not)
	STY video chip 
	INX
	CPX last raster line
	BNE FOO

Simplistic FLI code:

	You have 25 cycles per line.  (NTSC)
	Use nops etc, to pad out your video chip commands to keep
	things exactly 25 cycles..

	LDX funky video chip value
	LDY funky screen value
	STX $D011
	STY $D018
	NOP
	..
	NOP
	[repeat for each raster line you want to have FLI]

Now skipping details, since I'm doing this off the top of my head.. 
The code is very different, one can get by with a simple delay loop
for FLD and with FLI you require tight timing.  I can't believe that 
someone would sit around and make tight timing for FLD if it wasn't
required - it would be too stupid.  And with the time restrictions
with FLI it doesn't look possible to do with a delay loop sort of thing.

I learned FLD code from something really lame, and it was very obvious 
once I realised what was going on.  I had seen it quite a bit before I
was able to program ML very well so it was a big mystery to me.  FLI code
I believe I discovered from a NATO (yes, that is a PAL group) demo.  They
used the FLI method to display a spinning (warping) logo of 'NATO' and not
to provide more colours (both are possible).  In order to figure out what
was going I I had to 'fix' the demo for each raster line.. I got a few lines
down and realized what was going on and found it easier to write my own..
(of course I had a friend helping me ;)

There are undeniable similarities in the way the code works, but I have
a very hard time believing that one was discovered from the other.  They
share a common parent, and are siblings.

+/+\+/+\+/+chew carefully/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+\+/+
Roo [andrew@zone4.ocunix.on.ca] m a c h i n e l o v e h a t e f e a r v o i d .
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 1541 connected to an IBM
From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 3 Jan 93 00:07:12 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1993Jan1.184810.782@ab.wvnet.edu>, mccartney_g@ab.wvnet.edu writes:

> Is this something where you hook the 1541 up to an IBM and use it as a drive
> for running C-64 software or is it something else?  That would be great if I
> could use all my commodore software on the IBM.  That would be like a dream
> come true.

It's a file copier. Details are given on how to make the cable (which 
needs a DB25 connecter and a 6pin DIN plug).
It connects between the PC's parallel port and the the 1541. It's main
use (for me) is to port text files between the PC and my 128.

You could not 'run' commodore programs on the PC with just this, but it
would let you import the files. There is also a C64.zip emulator for the pc
but it needs a hercules card, and does not support colour, sprites or sound.
This may or may not let you run some commodore files... I think the guys in
Germany who developed it just did it for a laugh.

Both c64.zip and x1541.exe are on ccosun.caltech.edu /pub/rknop/INCOMING.

Cheers - Kirk
> 
> 					Greg McCartney
> 					McCartney_G@ab.wvnet.edu
From: mccartney_g@ab.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Re: 1541 connected to an IBM
Date: 1 Jan 93 23:48:10 GMT
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College

Hello I am new to this news group and was looking through the entries and seen
this one about the 1541 drive and IBM.  I was a long time Commodore user and
still like to some times.  Could someone explain what you are working on here? 
Is this something where you hook the 1541 up to an IBM and use it as a drive
for running C-64 software or is it something else?  That would be great if I
could use all my commodore software on the IBM.  That would be like a dream
come true.

					Greg McCartney
					McCartney_G@ab.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
From: dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com (DWT)
Subject: Re: uuencoder
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 19:12:44 GMT
Organization: Contributor Account at ddsw1, Chicago, Illinois  60657

YOUCKR@Meena.CC.URegina.CA (192503133) wrote in
<1993Jan03.060803.459305@sue.cc.uregina.ca>:

| >YOUCKR@Meena.CC.URegina.CA (192503133) wrote in
| ><1993Jan02.043134.492137@sue.cc.uregina.ca>:
| > 
| >| Can anyone tell me where I can get a UUENCODER or a UUDECODER for the c64 or
| >| c128?
| >| Perhaps on a FTP site?
| >| Thanks!

[and I answered]

| >Look for uuxfer-64 on cco.caltech.edu under the /pub/rknop directory.  Robert
| >Knop maintains an archive there.
| 
| Well I looked there and I could not find it any directories. Perhaps someone
| could put it on there? 

It could be on tybalt.caltech.edu; I can't check from here.  I realized that
after posting but figured that if it was wrong I should let Robert post the
correct information rather than my cluttering netnews with more guesses. 
Have you tried archie?

| How long you been Commodore Computing?

I bought a 64 in October, 1962.  OK, 1982, but I'm going to leave that typo
in.  It must feel like thirty years ago rather than ten.

Who here has been at it the longest?  Any PET users from the 1970's?

David W. Tamkin   Box 59297   Northtown Station, Illinois  60659-0297
dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com    CompuServe: 73720,1570    MCI Mail: 426-1818
From: mcmillan_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: The Smoking RAMLink
Date: 27 Dec 92 03:47:56 NZST
Organization: Welligton City Council, Public Access.
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

Christmas Day. Christchurch New Zealand.
The night before someone had switched off a whole C128 system, and RAMLink
was relying solely on its BBU.

No problem! The BBU worked just great... but the owner then discovered one of
the leads to the battery was a bit loose... SO out with the pliers and tighten 
it up a bit. Might as well tighten the other wire, too....

Shove 'em back and switch-on. 

BOOM!! A smoking RAMLink.

Seems RAMLink has no reverse-polarity protection. So, be careful!

Cheers - Kirk

PS No, it wasn't me and yes, there really was smoke.
From: edwardp@ra.cs.umb.edu (Edward P. Piecewicz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cbm
Subject: Novaterm 9.4 status line dissappears.
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:37:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

I may have found a bug in Novaterm 9.4 with respect to the status line.
It keeps disappearing..

These are the settings:  Modem:       Hayes 2400 
                         Protocol:    Xmodem 
                         Term type:   ANSI/40col
                         ASCII table: ANSI/VT
                         80col font:  ANSIshort 
                         Reg. font:   ANSI/40col
                         Script:      (none used)




When the terminal goes into 40 column mode, and the text scrolls down the
screen, once it hits the bottom and scrolls up, the status line at the
top of the screen dissappears, and text is appearing normally on the
line.  When I toggle the 80-column mode with C= C, the status line in the
80-column mode also dissappeared.  After re-loading the terminal modules
the status line was still gone, same thing when I loaded a regular 80-column
terminal (VT100).

Any ideas?

Thanks.

 - Ed



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