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From: milt@esd.sgi.com (Milton Tinkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: tragus piercing
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:56:23 GMT
Reply-To: milt@sgi.com (Milt Tinkoff)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

In article <JET.92Oct6125545@win30.nas.nasa.gov>, jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:

J.> "Jeff" == Jeff Duke <jduke@Autodesk.COM> writes:

Jeff> I was wondering if other people who have had this pierce, experienced
Jeff> the same thing.  My upper ear piercings never felt

J.> I think it has something to do with fine hairs on the tragus being
J.> tickled by the jewelry.  I "felt" mine for a while, and still do, if I
J.> move my head certain ways...

Jeff> I've also noticed the ring wants to stick out horizontally instead of
Jeff> following the laws of gravity.

J.> Hm.  Mine was just the opposite -- only wanted to be straight down, but
J.> as it healed, I could move it to the sides...

Mine stuck straight up and developed a nasty keloid.  I would suggest
folding it down and sleeping on it that way until it learns to stay down.
It takes about a week and is only slightly uncomfortable for the first
couple of nights.

If you do get a keloid, try something (Nutri-Biotic) with extract of citrus
in it.  It made mine go away when tea tree oil didn't work.

-milt

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From: robb@tfs.com (Not a tty)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Labia question
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:18:29 GMT
Organization: TRW Financial Systems

In article <MekSfW200WB9EqXmRk@andrew.cmu.edu> af1x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alan  
S. Ferrency) writes:
> A FOAF has a question about inner labia piercings.  She got her inner  labia
> pierced a little more than a month ago.  It healed with very little problems
> in a few weeks.  Now the hole seems to be getting elongated, almost as if 
> it's ripping or something, although it has never caused any pain at all.  
> Has anyone else experienced this?  Is it stretching?  Growing out?  It's a
> 14ga captive bead ring.

Sounds pretty common, especially for the thinner gauges.  If the hole has
streched enough, try putting in a larger diameter ring.
-- 
Robb Kane (robb@tfs.com) | Triarchy - 1: government by three persons   2: a 
TRW Financial Systems    | country under three rulers   3: A large, elegant,
Berkeley, California     | full keeled sailing vessle so named for its crew.
From: braunste@fjord.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (lance the braunstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Navel Piercings...
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:09:05 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.bodyart
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <OSIRIS.92Oct6125942@basselope.mit.edu> osiris@athena.mit.edu  
(Marcel Bruchez Jr.) writes:
> 
> I seem to remember reading this before, but just to make sure, getting a
> curved barbell for a navel pierce is the preferred way to go for the  
initial
> pierce?   Just thought I would check before I had it done...
> 
> Of course, it is also a matter of preference ;-)
> 
> -marcel

i got a 14 gauge stainless steel ring (from the gauntlet) which seems to  
work fine.  it's the kind with a little ball in it which prevents the  
rings from snagging the pierce where the ends come together.

steam
From: carl@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Carl Devore)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Bodyart in comic books?
Date: 4 Oct 92 02:04:44 GMT
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences

Many piercings and tattoos are featured in the comic _Horny Biker Slut_
published by Last Gasp.  It's up to issue #4 now.
From: dos@major.panix.com (Dave O'Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: *Piercing Rings and Metal Detectors at airports*
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 20:16:42 EDT
Organization: ACME products - artillery division

<U56933@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

> >>  My question is, do metal detectors pick up nipple rings?  How big is too
> >        No, they won't set off the detectors, at least, not by themselves.
> 
> Anyway, I believe the way the detectors work is that they put a magenetic fie
> through you and your belongings, and any sufficiently large mass of metal wil
> be picked up. So, if you have a whole bunch of piercings scattered around, th
> detector probably wouldn't pick it up, while Sailor Sid's multi-ornamented bo
> had enough metal in one place to make the detector scream.

This is pretty close to the idea. They simply sense disturbances in a
magnetic field. One interesting fact is that latitude and local magnetic
anomalies need to be taken into account when setting one of these little
buggers up.

> (presumably, the wands are set up to be very sensitive, but also very short
> range.)

Incredibly. I got "waved down" in Denver one time, and it screeched about
a 1/2" by 1/2" piece of tin-foil in my shirt pocket that had been part of
a gum wrapper.


--
"A leopard never changes his stripes" 
           -- Al Gore, candidate for vice-president
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From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Re: EYEBROW
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 06:29:10 GMT

Edward Sokhyon Pak (ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: 
:    I'm thinking about getting my Eyebrow pierced, but I'm not sure about
: it.  I had the guy who would pierce it explain it to me, but I don't
: know how painful it is, during and after the piercing.  Will anyone who
: knows please send me some E-mail?  Thanks

I never heard of eyebrow piercing before.  If any has any info on this
please post it, as I'm sure many of us would be interested in hearing
about it.
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From: mwasson@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson)
Subject: the future?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:48:36 GMT

"Pin lady tells the truth. The embrace of Balloon Man and Pin Lady
will be something to see. They'll roll down the hill together, someday.
Balloon Man's arms will be wrapped around Pin Lady's pins and Pin Lady's
embrangle will be wrapped around Balloon Man's balloons--even the yellow
balloons. They'll roll down the hill together. Pin Lady has the Pin of
I Violently Desire. She has the Pin of Crossed Fingers Behind My Back,
she has the Pin of Soft Talk, she has the Pin of No More and she is
rumored to have the Pin of Dazed Sachem's Last Request. She's into
puncture. When puncture becomes widely accepted and praised,it will be
the women who will have the sole license to perform it, Pin Lady says."

--Donald Barthelme, "The Great Hug" [_Amateurs_]

____________________________________________________________________
Mike Wasson, U of Hawai'i  [standard disclaimer]
	     Fat Messiah Games, S. Pacific HQ    
____________________________________________________________________
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graphically depicted"  -- LISP manual
"Fill da puka!" -- Wahine volleyball fan
From: dfpedro@nv2.uswnvg.com (Donn F. Pedro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: Public/Private beauty (was Re: The tattoo)
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:30:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: I don't speak for them anyway.

In article <BD.92Oct3102213@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
:
:dfpedro@nv2.uswnvg.com (Donn F. Pedro) writes:
:
:>Some beauty is not right before our eyes -- laid out for all the 
:>world to see.  Sometimes one has to look a little deeper to find it.
:>Ans that makes the discovery all the better.
:
:Reminds me of a story...
:
:Years ago I was talking to a friend about dogs versus cats, and I said
:that one of the reasons I like cats more than dogs is that when you
:spend a lot of time with a cat and it comes to love you, it's a very
:special feeling.  Dogs love everyone (most dogs, not all.  Let's not
:quibble).
:
:He asked me "Is the dogs love worth *less* because it's unconditional,
:or worth *more*?"

Very good question and why cannot we be more like dogs?  Why
can't most people love unconditionally?

:I've had more respect for dogs ever since.

But does that make the dog's love better than the cat's, or
just special to you?

:The same seems to me to be true of beauty.  My initial comment
:may have sounded harsher than I intended, but my point was that
:I *don't* think private beauty is more special than public beauty.

I never thought it was more special.  The point that I like about
something hidden is that it sometimes takes a little more 
effort to find it, or share it.  That doesn't make it better
than the obvious beauty, but it does make it special.

Now why do I comment so much on this.  Well, I met someone
once, at a get-together.  They took one look at me and recoiled
(I tend to look a bit scary and threatening), everyone got a hug
but me. They wanted nothing to do with me for a whole day.  But
they gave me, and themselves a chance.  They took the effort 
to look beyond the wrapping, and I took the effort to show 
what was beneath.

Today I have a friend who I love, and who loves me.

Some things hidden, once discovered, are worth the effort.

So the next time you pass by a tree, a child sitting on a curb,
a rock in a stream, or someone you usually wouldn't notice;
take a look.  Take a good look.  You may find beauty.

And the next time someone shows you something that few ever get
the chance to share -- appreciate it for what it is; a special
gift.




     Donn Pedro ....................................dfpedro@uswnvg.com

		     There are no ordinary moments.
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From: wales@ringss.enet.dec.com (David Wales)
Subject: Re: labia piercings and shaving
Reply-To: wales@ringss.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. Sydney Australia.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:58:31 GMT


G'Day,

>i shave my outer labia with a razor, but not my pubis....if i get a outer
>labia piercing(s), what do i go about shaving...most of the women in pics
>i've seen are shaved....

	And don't they look nice!

>do you shave around it?  move the ring back and forth to shave?  wait til
>it;s healed?

	I'd say wait until it has healed and then simply remove the ring(s)
when shaving.  Whilst it is not good practice to remove a ring from a piercing
for an extended period I'm sure it would be OK for the time it takes to shave.
Just be careful not to catch the hole with the razor.

Have fun!

David.

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From: ep2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward Sokhyon Pak)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: EYEBROW
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:22:45 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


   I'm thinking about getting my Eyebrow pierced, but I'm not sure about
it.  I had the guy who would pierce it explain it to me, but I don't
know how painful it is, during and after the piercing.  Will anyone who
knows please send me some E-mail?  Thanks
From: acase@reed.edu (Andrew Case)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: piercing in oregon/portland/seattle
Date: 6 Oct 92 04:44:23 GMT
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

I had my nipple pierced by Ahna Edwards. She works out of the Fine 
Arts Building in downtown Portland, with occasional trips to Seattle. 
Her studio is called Attitudes, and is a really comfortable place.
All her jewelery is autoclaved, as is the needle. I don't have her
phone number handy, but she's on the third floor of the Fine Arts 
Building at the end of the hallway.

I was quite pleased with her professional manner and her willingness
to just hang out and chat.

Good Luck.

................Andrew
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: jburney@seamis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jeff Burney)
Subject: Re: Upper Ear Cartilage
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:53:34 GMT

milt@esd.sgi.com (Milton Tinkoff) writes:


>I've got one piercing of this type that I had done with a gun (I know, not
>smart) a couple of years ago.  I want to get a few more, but I don't want

Why is the use of a gun not smart?  I've been thinking about getting
my first piercing and was under the impression that all shops used
some sort of gun, no?

My girlfriend, who pierced her own nose, has offered to do it for me.

Any thoughts?

Thanks, 

--
Jeff Burney                     SES, Inc.  301-439-6617        
jburney@seamis1.gsfc.nasa.gov   NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center 
jburney@argos.nodc.noaa.gov	NOAA/National Oceanographic Data Center
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: batman@lenny.corp.sgi.com
Subject: Re: Stupid Bodyart Tricks
Reply-To: batman@lenny.corp.sgi.com
Organization: Tattooed Love Boys
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:35:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.063533.17150@mr.med.ge.com> bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971) writes:
>------------------------------------
>| Excuse me while I kiss the sky!  | 
>|                            J.H.  |
>____________________________________


	Gee, y'know, somehow the doesn't look right when spelled 
	that way. Shouldn't that be " 'Scuse Me'?

			=B^)


	-Karl



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		No Sig.		No Job.		No Worries.
From: milt@esd.sgi.com (Milton Tinkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Upper Ear Cartilage
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:24:46 GMT
Reply-To: milt@sgi.com (Milt Tinkoff)
Distribution: rec
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA


I've got one piercing of this type that I had done with a gun (I know, not
smart) a couple of years ago.  I want to get a few more, but I don't want
to pay Gauntlet whatever their current cartilage price is for each one.  I
figured I'd get a few rings and a needle from Gauntlet and do it myself.
Is this advisable?  Should I get one of my friends to do it instead?

-milt

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Silicon Graphics, Inc.          |  don't care if it's fuckin' politically
milt@sgi.com                    |  wrong."      - Al Jourgensen
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: bgribble@jarthur.claremont.edu (Bill Gribble)
Subject: Re: PA jewelry preferences?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:39:43 GMT

In article <troyer.718391917@piglet.mmwb.ucsf.edu> troyer@cgl.ucsf.edu writes:
>What are people's preferences when it comes to PA jewelry?
>Fixed bead vs. captive bead vs curved barbell thingy?

I've had two rings in my PA, first a 12ga curved barbell and currently 
an 8ga curved barbell.  I like the curved barbell a lot better than the 
captive beads I have in my nipples.  With the 8ga, I've put a bead in 
between the knobs of the barbell so it's a pretty serious piece of metal.  
I like the extra weight -- I want to go up to 6ga or higher, but my next 
investment is 10ga rings to replace my 14ga nipples. 

To those who were wondering about curved barbells and condoms, I never have
had any problems.  Now, with the bead closing off the gap, there's even 
less worry. 

The only problem with curved barbell is that for small gauges (12ga and 
smaller) the threads on the knob are TINY and very exasperating to put on --
after I replaced the 12ga with 8ga, I put the 12ga in my ear and have had 
extreme difficulty putting it on by myself.  

>john
>troyer@cgl.ucsf.edu

Bill
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From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart,alt.tv.twin-peaks
Subject: Wild new tattoo!
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:13:44 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


Well, I finally did it. I scraped together the cash and got another tattoo.
This one's great; it's a petroglyph of an owl in an emeraly ring, surrounded
by a flame. It cost $60 and it hurt quite a lot, but it was worth it!

For those of you who are reading this on alt.tv.tp, can anyone tell me
where I can get David Lynch's address? I'd like to send him a picture
of the tattoo, since it was inspired by a petroglyph in Owl Cave.

The funny thing is, my friend came with me, and on the spur of the moment,
he got a tattoo of the Eye of Horus on his shoulder! He's been going around
showing it off all weekend.


Anyway, gotta go. Thought you all might like to know!

Mike "Well, *this* certainly scared my fraternity brothers..."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
From: kblack@world.std.com (karen black)
Subject: labia lengthening
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:03:20 GMT

hello all;

i haven't seen much discussion on the subject of labia stretching/lengthening
but i think it belongs in the category of 'bodyart' and would like to
get some advice or opinions.

i have been fascinated with the idea of legthening my inner labia ever
since college where the i idea first occured to me.  actually, it didn't
really occur to me, but rather was brought to my attention via my roommate.
she was very well endowed and i was amazed when i first saw her naked
for the first time, since her labia were so prominent, dangling (her word,
not mine) well below her pubic hair.  as i got to know her better it 
became apparent that she was not the least be shy discussing or showing
them (she was actually really into bodyart as it turns out, but that's 
another story).  anyhow, to make a long story short, she said that 
although she initially had 'normal' labia (what her idea of normal is
i'm still not quite sure of since she said they resembled mine, which i
consider a little large) but had managed to stretch them over time to
their current size.  

i am curious about what the thoughts or ideas anyone out there in the
bodyart world have on this topic.  what would be the best was to go about
it?  how much time does it take and is there a limit to how long they
can be made to get?  also, do you think the lenghening would be
permament, or would the labia eventually revert to their orignal
size if the stretching were stopped.  i am also curious about a post i
read a little while back concerning a inner labia piercing in which
the woman said that her left(?) labia had gotten bigger after she pierced it.
is that do to the piercing itself or because of the weight of the ring?
the idea of getting a labia piercing is quite exciting in itself, but even
more so if it would help the lengthing process.

please feel free to email me with thoughts,ideas, sugestions or whatever
since i can use all the help i can get.




bye
From: jburney@seamis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jeff Burney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.bodyart
Subject: Re: The first tattoo
Date: 1 Oct 92 11:57:28 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (The Jumpin Dude) writes:

>In article <1992Oct1.010628.14748@odin.corp.sgi.com> batman@lenny.corp.sgi.com writes:
>>	Tattoos hurt. No question about it. You're getting poked
>I couldn't agree more. Since I started reading this group, and poking
>needles into myself, and getting poked by another, my fear of pain has
>become a silly thing to me. Of course, I fear being injured, but that's 
>different. A tattoo doesn't injure you. 
>I say go in with curiosity. 'What's *this* going to be like??'

Well, I got my first yesterday :-).  It's Yin Yang Symbol (black and flesh)
on the inside of my right leg above the ankle bone.  The tattoo was
done by Charley Parsons at The Great Southern Tattoo Company in 
College Park, MD.

Charley was great.  I too was anxious about the pain and the 
whole process in general but he took alot of time to show me the
equipment and sterilization.  He even went into how the tattoo gun
works and showed me some antiques he had.

Anyway, the pain was very bareable especially since I could watch 
the needle moving along my flesh.  The strangest thing to me was
the way the pain built up and followed the needle.  I expected
either a constant amount of pain to follow the gun or pain to build
where the gun had just been but instead, the pain built up AND
followed the gun!  Very strange.

Well, that's my $0.02.  Now on to the piercing...

--
Jeff Burney                     SES, Inc.  301-439-6617        
jburney@seamis1.gsfc.nasa.gov   NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center 
jburney@argos.nodc.noaa.gov	NOAA/National Oceanographic Data Center
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From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: PA jewelry preferences?
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:26:42 GMT

troyer@cgl.ucsf.edu writes:
: What are people's preferences when it comes to PA jewelry?
: Fixed bead vs. captive bead vs curved barbell thingy?

I have two rings, both circular barbells (10ga 3/4", and 12ga 1/2").
I've never tried a captive bead ring.
: 
: Do you have a tendancy to lose captive beads?

One acquaintance of mine lost the bead.  You can also lose the knobs on
the circular barbells, but a drop of clear nail-polish helps prevent that.
In addition, I check the knobs twice a day.

: Is one "more aesthetically pleasing?"

(shrug) I dunno.  I like what I've got.

: The guy at Gauntlet says the curved barbell is easier to take out and
: 	put back in. What do you need to take it out for? Black tie dinners?
: 	Olympic try-outs? 

One acquaintance of mine - early 20's - got a captive-bead ring and the
special pliers to remove it, because he didn't want to wear it in the
college locker room.  I wear mine at the gym all the time, and have had
only one "starer" so I dunno how important that is.

Once I found out that the original ring was too big, it was a LOT easier
to remove when I wanted to swap them.

I had two partners that complained about the ring tickling the back of
their throats, so I temporarily removed it so we could continue the
encounter.

On the other hand, if the ring protrudes a bit, but not enough to inhibit
wearing a condom, I think I'd prefer one that has both ends joined to
one that has two 'free ends' that can even possibly rip latex.  I don't
have any problem at all with the smaller ring, but the larger ring I'm
a little hesitant with... that is, assuming you're going to leave the
ring in during sex in the first place.

Your mileage may vary. 
--
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
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of the 50's.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA