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From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: Re: Sonics / Portland
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA  90041
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:42:21 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.233757.12246@muddcs.claremont.edu> byau@jarthur.claremont.edu (Ben) writes:
>just a quick note on the sonics themselves.  they really have repuatation for
>being an agressive team.  Even though I think they aren't that aggressive, 
>(except Kemp), that has been tradition, so traditionally they do not get as 
>many calls.  I know there are exceptions (games and incidents), but when I see
>sonics games , EVEN AT HOME!!, they usually don't get calls.  
>McDaniel probably helped carry the tradition, just as Kemp is doing so now 
>because of his hunger for monster plays (dunks and blocks)
>and of course Payton's trash talk helps the tradition too.
>
>I'm not sure how it is going now, but last time I checked (x-mas), they still
>weren't getting calls.
>
>does someone have some stats about Sonic fouls vs. opponents fouls to either
>flame or support me?  i noticed that in some box-scores posted, there is
>no foul column (i'm interested in seeing how many fouls Shawn gets called
>for with the minutes he's playing).

     Well, even without checking the statistics, Sonics fans know that
the Sonics get called for more fouls than their opponents.  A lot of
this is because they COMMIT more fouls than their opponents, some of it
MIGHT be because they aren't getting favorable calls.  Especially during
the X-man/Kevin Williams/Lister years, the Sonics hustled a lot, hounding
the ball -- and commited a lot of fouls.  They were actually only a
little above average defensively, but their intensity was high.  Anyway,
here are some numbers:

        Personal Fouls Commited

          Sonics    Opponents
1990-91    1973       1820
1989-90    2064       1796
1988-89    2027       1881
1987-88    2380*      1963    *Led League
1986-87    2224       2027
1985-86    2168       2008
1984-85    1974       2020

     I don't know how this differential compares to other teams, my guess
is that the Sonics were usually among the Top 4 teams in terms of commiting
more fouls than their opponents -- however expansion teams could alter
this stat.
     Last year the Sonics finally calmed down a bit from their foul-happy
ways.  It's also interesting to note that the last two years listed were
also Sikma's last years with the Sonics; after trading him away the 
foul spree really began.
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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Sixers no playoffs-enter Shaq lottery
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:35:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr15.044046.19093@icf.hrb.com>, mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley) writes:
> Yes, My Sixers lost and they won't be in the playoffs thus giving us a chance 
> for Shaq!!!

Yeah, a 1-in-66 chance.  But stranger things have happened.

It would be great to get Shaq, but I'd be very happy with the second
pick and Alonzo Mourning.  Hell, even Christian Laettner witht the
thrird pick could help at this point.


Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
alux5!jmd
From: pabouki@eos.ncsu.edu (PERRY ANDREW BOUKIDIS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Michael Williams
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:05:03 GMT
Reply-To: pabouki@eos.ncsu.edu (PERRY ANDREW BOUKIDIS)
Organization: Project EOS - North Carolina State University



	In the coming NBA draft the Hornets are going to try to shore up
some areas on their roster.  Particularly at the 5 and 1.  It really is
a shame the Hornets let Michael Williams slip right through their hands.  He
would be a perfect fit in Bristow's system.  Williams is making a move on the
NBA Defensive Player OTY.  He really has established himself in Indiana.
Imagine Mugsy Bogues and Williams combining at PG on the same team!  That
would be an opposing PG's worst nightmare.  The Hornets really kicked
themselves on the shin with that blunder.


                                 LJ: ROTY... NBA 2nd Team,

                                           Perry Boukidis
From: terra@reed.edu (Terra Goodnight)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Most Valuable Player
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:52:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr10.185207.11842
Distribution: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: Reed College, Portland OR

In article <JAVS.92Apr10131512@sabrina.inesc.pt> javs@sabrina.inesc.pt (Joao Antonio do Vale de Sousa) writes:
>
>   I think is time to initiate the discussion about the player who deserves
>to be the Most Valuable Player.
>
>   My favourites are Michael Jordan (Chicago Bulls) and Clyde Drexler (Portland
> Trailblazers).
>
>   What do you think about this, net folks?

Can you say D-A-N-N-Y M-A-N-N-I-N-G???

Ok, so it's a longshot, but I think a very worthy choice, 'specially if they
clobber the Warriors in the first round & then the FrailBlazers in the 2nd,
Hell, they can easily take Phoenix in the Western Conf. finals, so Manning'll
get it even if the mighty Bulls kill us in the championships.

Please, nobody pinch me, I'm enjoying this daydream...
Terra
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From: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Subject: NBA Standings
Keywords: Bulls and Blazers... 9 Teams have clinched playoff berths
Reply-To: m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu (Michael L. Le Houllier)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 13:15:52 GMT

Basketball Standings

Eastern Conference

Team      Wins    Losses     GB

*Bulls     62       14        -
*Knicks    48       29       14.5
*Cavaliers 53       23        9
*Celtics   46       31       16.5
*Pistons   45       32       17.5
Pacers     38       39       24.5
Nets       36       40       26
Hawks      36       41       26.5
------------------------------------
Heat       35       42       27.5
SIXERS     33       43       29
X-Hornets  30       46       32
X-Bucks    30       47       32.5
X-Bullet   24       53       38.5
X-Magic    20       57       42.5

*-clinched playoff berth
X-eliminated from playoff contention


Western Conference

Team      Wins     Losses     GB

*Blazers   54        23        -
*Jazz      50        27        4
*Warriors  51        26        3
*Suns      50        28        4.5
Spurs      45        32        9
Sonics     45        32        9
Clippers   43        34       11
Rockets    41        36       13
----------------------------------
LAKERS     40        36       13.5
X-Kings    26        52       28.5
X-Nuggets  23        54       31
X-Mavericks19        58       35
X-Wolves   14        62       39.5

*-clinched playoff berth
X-eliminated from playoff contention

-- 
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 (m_lehoul@oz.plymouth.edu.us) *  Remember: June 4, 1989 - Beijing
 Go BLUE JAYS  3-0  v. Orioles   Friday, Saturday and Sunday
 The Rangers jinx continues.  The year they could win, they strike.
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From: wrl@pmafire.inel.gov (William Lechner)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 13:37:20 GMT
Organization: WINCO
Subject: BOXSCORE: cha79ind80.14apr92
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: WINCO
Keywords: 

cha 96, ind 123   14apr92

cha (30-49)      min  fgm fga  3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as  pf st to bk tc ej  pts
johnson,larry     33    8  15   0  1   6  8   4  8   3   3  1  1  1  1  0   22
newman,johnny     27    2   6   0  0   2  4   0  3   2   4  1  4  1  1  0    6
gattison,kenny    30    7  11   0  0   0  0   1  5   2   4  0  3  0  0  0   14
bogues,tyrone     32    4   9   0  1   0  0   0  2   9   2  1  2  0  0  0    8
gill,kendall      35    8  18   0  0   5  8   2  6   3   2  3  1  0  0  0   21
reid,jr           29    2   6   0  0   8  8   4  8   4   2  0  3  2  0  0   12
curry,dell        24    3  12   0  0   0  0   0  3   2   0  2  2  0  0  0    6
perry,??           6    1   1   0  0   0  0   0  0   2   0  1  0  0  0  0    2
lynch,??          14    1   2   0  0   1  2   0  1   0   3  0  0  0  0  0    3
gminski,mike       6    0   3   0  0   0  0   1  2   0   0  1  0  1  0  0    0
frederick,??       4    1   5   0  0   0  0   1  1   0   0  0  0  0  0  0    2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
cha totals       240   37  88   0  2  22 30  13 39  27  20 10 16  5  2  0   96
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .420   .000   .733       team rebs 11


ind (39-41)      min  fgm fga  3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as  pf st to bk tc ej  pts
mccloud,george    23    6  12   2  3   0  0   1  2   5   4  0  4  0  0  0   14
person,chuck      32    6  14   0  2   0  0   5 14   6   1  1  2  1  0  0   12
thompson,lasalle  20    4   7   0  0   0  0   2  5   2   4  0  1  0  0  0    8
miller,reggie     37    5  13   2  4   3  4   2  6   5   2  1  2  0  0  0   15
williams,micheal  27    6   7   0  0   2  3   1  5   9   4  3  1  1  0  0   14
davis,dale        24    5   9   0  1   1  2   0  4   2   5  3  1  2  0  0   11
schrempf,detlef   31    8  15   0  1   7  8   3 10   8   2  3  3  1  1  0   23
fleming,vern      25    6  11   0  0   2  3   2  3   5   1  0  3  0  0  0   14
williams,kenny    13    5   8   0  0   0  0   2  3   5   1  0  3  1  0  0   10
wittman,randy      4    0   1   0  0   0  0   0  1   2   0  0  0  0  0  0    0
dreiling,greg      4    1   1   0  0   0  0   0  0   0   1  0  0  0  0  0    2
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ind totals       240   52  98   4 11  15 20  18 53  49  25 11 20  6  1  0  123
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .531   .364   .750       team rebs  7


cha   25  29  18  24  -   96
ind   40  26  26  31  -  123

attendance 16530, time ?:??, officials: SJavie,BReichelt,JDeRosa
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Oh that Larry Bird
From: f67709317@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:55:40 MST
 <1992Apr9.222141.23734@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> <1992Apr10.185103.29701@ll.mit.edu>
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67709317

In article <1992Apr10.185103.29701@ll.mit.edu>, nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith) writes:
> In article <1992Apr9.222141.23734@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:
>> Somebody writes:
>>> i think magic then would go to some other team (not boston-  who had #2?) 
>>
>>Chicago. Then they would have been in the finals at least 10 years earlier.
>>They probably wouldn't have had the chance to draft Jordan in 1984.
> 
> but by then the C's would have been down there and Red may have wangled it
> so that Boston would get Jordan.  talk about parallel universes....:-)

Boston get Jordan?? Naaah, they'd have gone for a white player who could
put fannies in the Gahden seats and make sportswriters rave, "He's such a
hard worker!"  That way, when they went up against the team who wound up
with the "supremely gifted" Jordan, no one would mind if they got pasted.
(Maybe Gidi would know who the top white prospect in the 1984 draft was....)
It was probably best for all that Bird spent 10+ years in Boston and
Jordan 6+ in Chicago, rather than the other way around.

I think Red would've taken Danny Ferry if  had wound up with the #1
lottery pick in 1989.  It's my opinion, but it's as good as any other's.
-- 
Greg Franklin                             "Death is everywhere,
f67709317@ccit.arizona.edu          there are fries on the windscreen."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Larry Bird
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:47:24 GMT

schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN) writes:
>Drafted 1st round 6th pick 1978, staying in college, probably would have been
>the first pick in '79.

You mean that the Lakers would have taken Bird instead of Magic?

I doubt it.

--Gidi

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: schmke@cco.caltech.edu (Kevin Todd Schmidt)
Subject: Laker Injuries
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 15:39:29 GMT

Does anyone know the details of the injuries to James Worthy and Sam
Perkins?  If so could you please post the information and when they
are expected back?

Thank you.

Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: jte@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Jeff Eldredge)
Subject: Re: Cleveland would NOT have the second slot!
Reply-To: jte@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Jeff Eldredge)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:24:58 GMT

In article <kuji7gINNqp4@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN) writes:

>the rest are given in order in the conference.  If Boston ended up in
>a tie with NY, they would win the Atlantic division because they won
>the season series against NY, and they would have the 2nd slot.  But I
>would like to see the celts play new Jersey!  Oh what fun!  

Just curious what you mean by fun, considering that the Nets are
capable of beating any given team (with the possible exception of the
Bulls) on any given night and also given the fact that the Nets are
3-2 this season against Boston.  I'm assuming that you mean that it
would be fun to watch such an exciting matchup.  Personally (despite
my own Nets super-fandom), I am very aware of the damage that Larry
can do if he stays healthy.  But I still think that it would be a good
battle.  

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan)
Subject: Re: Cavs STOMP Bulls
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:22:47 GMT

zell@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Zell) writes:
> Actually(I made the same mistake at first too), I think Gary is a Cleveland
>fan, but because Cleveland wouldn't do that (yeah, right), he used the Pistons
>as an example.
>Joe

>-- 

To clarify my standing.  GO PISTONS!   I used the Cavs as an example, then.

-- 
Gary Blickhan   "Urgent baseball news- In a risky deal, the Angels sent pitcher
Dean Chance to the Phillies for outfielder Oscar Gamble. Also, a three-way deal
sent infielder Dave Cash to Detroit, slugger Norm Cash and backup Ron Cash to
Milwaukee, and infielder Don Money to Pittsburgh. Detroit made a profit."
From: sikorski@news.miami.edu (Richard Sikorski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: BOXSCORE nj Nets-105, mia Heat-100, 14apr (saturday)
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:57:57 GMT
Organization: R.S.M.A.S.


Sorry this boxscore is a little late.  I already posted a game
description, titled "HI-LITES..."

njn 105, mia 100   14apr92

njn (39-41)      min  fgm fga  3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as  pf st to bk tc ej  pts
coleman,derrick   41   10  20   1  2   3  3   8 13   3   1  0  3  0  0  0   24
morris,chris      23    4   7   0  1   0  0   3  6   0   2  0  1  1  0  0    8
bowie,sam         24    5  11   0  0   3  4   2 11   2   5  1  1  6  0  0   13
blaylock,mookie   45    7  18   0  1   2  2   1  3   5   3  1  1  1  0  0   16
petrovic,drazen   36    4   9   0  1   6  9   1  4   3   2  2  6  0  0  0   14
mills,terry       25    6  16   0  1   4  4   4  9   2   2  1  1  0  0  0   16
dudley,chris      23    3   6   0  0   0  0   6  8   1   5  0  1  1  0  0    6
george,tate       12    1   5   0  0   0  0   0  2   0   0  0  1  0  0  0    2
anderson,kenny     3    1   1   0  0   0  0   0  0   2   0  0  0  0  0  0    2
feitl,dave         1    0   0   0  0   0  0   0  1   0   1  0  1  0  0  0    0
addison,raphael    7    2   2   0  0   0  0   1  1   0   1  0  0  1  0  0    4
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
njn totals       240   43  95   1  6  18 22  26 58  18  22  5 16 10  0  0  105
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .453   .167   .818       team rebs  4

mia (37-43)      min  fgm fga  3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as  pf st to bk tc ej  pts
long,grant        45    8  20   0  1   3  3   6 13   3   2  2  3  1  0  0   19
rice,glen         45   15  32   2  8   4  4   4  9   3   2  2  4  1  0  0   36
seikaly,rony      40    4  10   0  1   9 12   4  9   1   2  0  2  1  0  0   17
shaw,brian        26    2  10   1  1   0  0   2  5   2   4  1  0  0  0  0    5
smith,steve       28    3  13   0  1   2  3   4  7   8   2  0  1  0  0  0    8
kessler,alec       6    0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   1   0  0  0  0  0  0    0
edwards,kevin     23    3   7   0  1   0  0   2  2   1   3  2  0  0  0  0    6
askins,keith       6    1   1   0  0   0  0   1  1   0   2  1  1  0  0  0    2
coles,bimbo       21    2   7   0  2   3  4   1  1   5   0  0  0  0  0  0    7
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mia totals       240   38 100   3 15  21 26  24 47  24  17  8 11  3  0  0  100
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .380   .200   .808       team rebs 14

njn   22  28  25  30  -  105
mia   22  24  32  22  -  100

attendance 15008, time 2:05, officials: JKersey,TBernhardt,RNunn

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From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Cavs STOMP Bulls
Date: 16 Apr 92 08:49:52 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Apr15.175049.20435@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan) writes:
> This is in response to a previous article titled "Bulls STOMP Cavs" (I believe
> it was called.)   The Cavs got their revenge, and the Bulls were simply beat.
> 
> You can say that they didn't have Jordan, and oh well, that's the cause.
> 
> You are correct.  What happens to the Bulls if some guy like Laimbeer knocks
> Jordan out of the playoffs?  You could call it a cheap shot, but it would
> be a dose of reality for the Bulls.
> 
> Gary Blickhan

Hey Gary, why do you think Richard Dent sits courtside at all those 
Bulls games?  Which referee is going to stop Dent from sacking 
Laimbeer?  The reality is that the Bulls are going to go farther than 
your beloved Pistons.
From: cokasaki+@CS.CMU.EDU (Chris Okasaki)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Baylor/Thompson/Gervin (was Re: Larry Bird)
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:34:10 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

In article <204822@unix.cis.pitt.edu>, pmmst8@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene) writes:
|> ... Ekgin Baylor once scored 60 pts in a game ...

Now let's give credit where credit is due--Elgin Baylor once scored 71(!) pts
in a game.  Only one person not named Chamberlain have ever scored more and
that was David Thompson in one of the most amazing shootouts in NBA history.

Coming into the last afternoon of the 1978 season Thompson and Gervin were
in a virtual tie for the scoring lead--Thompson had 2099 pts in 79 games
(26.57 ppg) while Gervin had 2169 pts in 81 games (26.78 ppg).

That afternoon Thompson scored 73 pts to take the lead with 27.15 ppg.
Gervin would need an incredible 58 pts to take back the crown.  So he went
out that night and sank 63, to raise his average to 27.22!  They didn't
call him the Iceman for nothing!

Chris

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From: schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: I know Larry was drafted as a Junior
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:59:47 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennesee, Knoxville
Distribution: world
Reply-To: schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN)
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>In article <ku8mf8INN5k7@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> schulman@hydra2b.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN) writes:
>>>>Drafted 1st round 6th pick 1978, staying in college, probably wouldve been
>>>>the first pick in '79.
>>>You mean that the Lakers would have taken Bird instead of Magic?
>>
>>>I doubt it.
>>>--Gidi
>>I think there is a very good chance.  But as anyone should admit, either one
>>would have been a great choice, Bird being a super forward, and Johnson a 
>>guard.  But as with anything else, it depends on what the franchise needs,
>>did the lakers need a super forward?
>>Neil

 You seem to forget that Larry was drafted after his junoir year, via a rule
loophole that Red knew about. The Lakers really had no chance.
Matt

******************************

I knew of that, but it was irrelevant.  Larry stayed for his senior year.  He 
could have refused to sign and instead go into the '79 draft with no problems,
Red just convinced him otherwise.  I guess that's mild though, when you look at the frequency that athletes leave school for money and fame

Neil
From: erickson@lclark.edu (Scott Erickson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Lakers out of Playoffs
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:04:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Apr17.180445.28664
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Apr17.050157.14479@unlv.edu> suresh@charles.cs.unlv.edu (Suresh Kumar Vishnubhatla) writes:
>The LA Lakers lost to the Kings at Sacremento.  This puts them out of
>the playoffs.
>-- 
>Suresh
>UNLV Dept. of Electrical Engineering



Not quite.  They are #9, something like .5 game behind the Rockets.  They
could still get in, but I personally subscribe to the theory that they are
not quite as interested in getting into the playoffs (only to get wasted
by the Blazers in the first round) than to have a good lottery pick.

--Scott Erickson
Lewis and Clark
From: zell@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Zell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Cavs STOMP Bulls
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:06:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr17.200652.27373
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

glb50263@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gary L. Blickhan) writes:

>zell@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Joseph Zell) writes:
>> Actually(I made the same mistake at first too), I think Gary is a Cleveland
>>fan, but because Cleveland wouldn't do that (yeah, right), he used the Pistons
>>as an example.
>>Joe

>>-- 

>To clarify my standing.  GO PISTONS!   I used the Cavs as an example, then.

Cool. I apologize for my mistake above. I'd rather have the Bulls thrash the
Pistons over the Cavs any day.

>-- 
>Gary Blickhan   "Urgent baseball news- In a risky deal, the Angels sent pitcher
>Dean Chance to the Phillies for outfielder Oscar Gamble. Also, a three-way deal
>sent infielder Dave Cash to Detroit, slugger Norm Cash and backup Ron Cash to
>Milwaukee, and infielder Don Money to Pittsburgh. Detroit made a profit."
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zell@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu  *   Holy Cow! Ryne Dawston hits another homerun!
                       *      -Harry Carry after a dozen too many Buds
Cubs in '93!!!!!!!!    *              
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: cl@lgc.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: random thoughts
Organization: Landmark Graphics Corporation
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:17:29 GMT

In article <31651@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ec120wee@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) writes:
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>>6.  Pat Riley will win coach of the year.  Hey, he's a BIG NAME, he's
>>in a BIG CITY, and he did a BIG JOB with that team.  Although why does
>>Charles Oakley still take those 18-footers?  I think he's 1 for 20 in
>>games I've seen him in.
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>Could be.  However, there are a lot of contenders this year.
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Indeed.  Anyone think Dunleavy and Unseld have
handled adversity well?  Jackson certainly has
managed success ...  I can also see arguments
for Brown (part N+1), Karl (?), Nelson, and
maybe someone like Bristow, or even Daly.
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