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From: mginsbur@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Mark Ginsburg)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: CJA Awards
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:23:53 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

The more I think about the Cozio Defense piece winning the CJA award,
the more steamed I get.  That's because I've read that piece as it
appeared in _Chess Horizons_ and I consider it:

(a) misleading
(b) presenting a false conclusion that black enjoys equality
(c) omitting critical black losses in the variation that are readily
available on ChessBase 'spanish without ...a6' diskette
(d) not at all up to date - no recent games included
(e) GM Praxis very little considered - see (d) 

I ask again for an explanation.  Was it the cuteness of the father & son
team?  

GM Rohde's articles in Chess Life, for example, beat this hands down
(any of his monthly columns).  Joel's article in Chess Chow refuting
Stefan Buecker's "Vulture" also puts this to shame.

I would put the Cozio in the 'C'mon, you're kidding, right?' category
instead, and give the 'analysis' category some, well, ANALYTICAL basis
for judging!

In my opinion, this call by the judges puts their other calls into question
as well.  How much time did they spend looking at the submissions?  Even
the most cursory glance at the "Cozio" article drew these reactions:

"Total garbage" - Fedorowicz.
"Laughable" - Benjamin.
"The opening just stinks."  - Rohde, who somehow saw all of his
crushing wins versus the IM-part of the "Cozio" author team disappear
from that article.

And we are to somehow believe that the professional player group
I just mentioned is THAT FAR OFF BASE?!  I think not.  C'mon, judges,
you were hoodwinked!  Or does _Chess Horizons_ get a quota of 
first place awards from the CJA every year?!  Unbelievable!

Let's realistically call the Cozio what it is:  a passive response to the
Ruy Lopez which leads by force to a space disadvantage, superior
mobiity for white, and hence IT IS NOT EQUAL repeat NOT EQUAL.  C'mon!!!

-Mark
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: bwatkins@nyx.cs.du.edu (The God of all machines)
Subject: Re: Bobby still #2?!?!?!?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:16:47 GMT

"Ken Rawlings" <krawling@banana.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:


>	I read in the local campus newspaper today that Fischer is still ranked
>#2 even after all these years. Considering the source, I find this claim
rather
>dubious. Could someone with more background in these matters confirm or 
eny
>this, and if it's true, give a little background as to why.

Bobby Fischer is rated at 2760 or so by FIDE (the Federacion Internationale
de Echeck or some other french nonsense.  Nowadays refered to as Fido :))
and the USCF (Untied States Chess Federation) rule is "once rated, always
rated;"  it is very likely that FIDE has the same rule.  The highest
ever recorded rating is Kasparov-2805 (maybe a bit higher)  He is currently
at about 2790.  Bobby's record is 2780 (after whipping Tigran Petrosian
6.5-2.5, and Larsen and Taimanov 6-0 in a game where most top notch
games are draws.  Nobody won tournaments with scores like this except
Fischer since... I don't recall, probably the 19th century (Morphy?))
Nobody else has ever passed 2750 or so.  That makes Fischer #2 in the
world.  He has been listed as rated but inactive over the past 20 years.

Many think Kasparov's rating is due to rating inflation and playing in many
more tournaments than Fischer at his prime, and thus not as impressive.
There are several 2700+'s now, while Spassky (#2 in the world, 1972)
was rated about 2650 when Fischer hit his record.  Not to diminish
Kasparov's record, though:  He's done some pretty amazing butt-kicking
and shows amazing consistancy and mental health.
?
>					Thanks, 
>					  Ken Rawlings
>-- 
>: Ken Rawlings      | One Tool to rule them all, one Tool to find them, 
     
>: Computer Science  | One Tool to bring them all and in the darkness bin
 them.
>: Indiana University|           -J.R.R. Tolkien(referring to Emacs)



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From: nash+@cs.cmu.edu (Richard Nash)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fishcer's last official game
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:27:33 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

A friend of mine has just showed me a fairly amusing video. It is a
interview eith Fischer just after his winning the world chapionship. It goes
something like...

Interviewer: So Mr. Fischer, what are you going to do now that you have won
the world chess championship?

Fischer: My plan right now is to play more chess. I feel as if I haven't 
played enough chess.

(Of course I would have answered, "I'm going to Disney World!")

I: Do you plan to play a match in the United States?

F: Yes, well, I might. I'm not committing to anything. Mainly though I need to
play more chess. I just don't feel that I've played enough chess...


(And we don't here from him for 20 years...)

Rich Nash
-- 

Richard V. Nash
nash@vi.ri.cmu.edu
From: ercn72@festival.ed.ac.uk (R.J.Hare)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Shogi
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:00:47 GMT

I just joined this group and noticed a request for Shogi programs. I couldn't
find an answers which mentioned Shogi programs. Does anyone know of any such
programs please?

Thanks.

Roger Hare
r.j.hare@ufestival.edinburgh.ac.uk
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 16:36:35 CDT
From: <U55342@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: sneaky Nimzo-Indian?

About the line 1.d4 d5 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 :

White should get an edge with 4.Qb3 e.g.,

1) 4. ... Bc3 5.Qc3 is += (5. ... Nf6 6.Bg5 is nice for white);

2) 4. ... a5 5.a3 and black has to exchange and ends up in positions
   similar to the ones that emerge in the first line - hence +=;

3) 4. ... Nc6 5.Nf3 Nf6 6.Bg5 followed by 7.a3 or 7.e3 and 8.a3 and once
   again white is better.


I think that the main concept expressed in this line is more formidably
used in the Ragozin defense (where black gets in ... Nf6 before playing
... Bb4) and the Cambridge Springs line of the Queen's Gambit (1.d4 d5
2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Nf6 4.Bg5 Nbd7 5.e3 c6 6.Nf3 Qa5 followed by in many lines
...Bb4).(By the way, white can't win a pawn in this move order with
5.cd ed 6.Nd5 because of 6. ... Nd5 7.Bd8 Bb4 - this is a very old
trap!)

(another note: I think white is wise to go for 6.cd ed and play Bd3,Qc2
and castle queen-side!)

(All these parentheses might suggest that I'm a LISP-language programmer!)

                                                See Ya!
                                                 Bert Wilson


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From: ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Seaman)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Support Bobby!
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:02:39 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <92244.194802KJRGC@CUNYVM.BITNET> KJRGC@CUNYVM.BITNET (Ken  
Ramaley) writes:
>       My understanding was that Fischer wanted to play in Yugoslavia for  
the
> following reasons: 1) that's where the money was offered, and 2) there  
would be
> a smaller crowd in attendance.  Certainly, he has achieved goal #2.  

Does anyone know whether Fischer's longtime chess buddy, Svetozar  
Gligorich, is still alive? Gligorich is (was?) Yugoslavian. I don't know  
his ethnic background, but if he was a Serb, perhaps that might have  
something to do with Fischer's decision.

--
Dave Seaman
ags@seaman.cc.purdue.edu
From: eb11@quads.uchicago.edu (Ernest Barreto)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: fischer match coverage
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:43:26 GMT
Reply-To: eb11@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Aug31.170502.19559@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> watsonb@alcohol.ecn.purdue.edu (Bradley S Watson) writes:
>>|> Telechess has an advertisement in the August issue of
>>|> Inside Chess an advertisement in the August issue of
>>|> Inside Chess.
>>|> 
>>|> Phone number: 1-900-988-0078
>>|> The info line: Ext 664, "round by round updates on all the action"
>>|> The game line: Ext 565, "Don't miss a single move"
>>|> 
>>|> Average call two minutes.  $2.00 per minute.  Touch tone phone.
>>|> Under 18 requires parental consent.
>>


the washington post's "post-haste" system has it for free.

I lost the number -- anyone have it?

i remember it's code 8400.

Ernie
From: ark@alice.att.com (Andrew Koenig)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Fischer-Spassky #2: draw after 59 moves
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:46:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23628
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ

Spassky had white:

	1.	d4	Nf6
	2.	c4	g6
	3.	Nc3	Bg7
	4.	e4	d6
	5.	f3	c5
	6.	dxc5	dxc5
	7.	Qxd8	Kxd8
	8.	Be3	Nfd7
	9.	Ne2	b6
	10.	0-0-0	Na6
	11.	g3	Nc7
	12.	f4	e6
	13.	Bh3	Ke7
	14.	Rhf1	h6
	15.	e5	Bb7
	16.	g4	Rad8
	17.	Ng3	f6
	18.	Nce4	fxe5
	19.	f5	Bxe4
	20.	Nxe4	gxf5
	21.	gxf5	Nf6
	22.	Rg1	Rxd1+
	23.	Kxd1	Bf8
	24.	Nxf6	Kxf6
	25.	Rf1	exf5
	26.	Rxf5+	Kg7
	27.	Rxe5	Bd6
	28.	Re4	Bxh2
	29.	Ke2	h5
	30.	Re7+	Kf6
	31.	Rd7	Be5
	32.	b3	h4
	33.	Kf3	Rg8
	34.	Bg4	h3
	35.	Rh7	h2
	36.	Bf4	Rf8
	37.	Bxe5+	Kg6
	38.	Ke4	Kxh7
	39.	Bxh2	Re8+
	40.	Kf5	Ne6
	41.	Kf6	Nd4
	42.	Bd6	Re4
	43.	Bd7	Re2
	44.	a4	Rb2
	45.	Bb8	a5
	46.	Ba7	Rxb3
	47.	Ke5	Nf3+
	48.	Kd6	Nd2
	49.	Be6	Rb4
	50.	Kc6	Nb3
	51.	Bd5	Rxa4
	52.	Bxb6	Ra1
	53.	Bxc5	a4
	54.	Bb4	a3
	55.	c5	Nd4+
	56.	Kd7	Rd1
	57.	Bxa3	Nc2
	58.	c6	Rxd5+
	59.	Bd6	offered draw

		1/2-1/2
-- 
				--Andrew Koenig
				  ark@europa.att.com
From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer - Spassky: The Prize
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:20:51
Organization: CSUA/UCB
	<1992Sep3.182204.17591@midway.uchicago.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu's message of 3 Sep 92 18:22:04 GMT

    I know too little about French laws to even guess what will happen
    to Spassky, but I know that he is perfectly mentally healthy and
    has no excuse for what he is doing.

Really no excuse?  Are you saying that in his shoes, you would "do
the right thing" and refuse to play?  Do take it as a personal
question: if you---yes, *YOU*---were offered $1.3 million to play
chess in Belgrade for a few weeks, would you turn it down?  
(It's only 1.3 mil since you're unlikely to beat or tie with Fischer).
Will you tell everyone here on the net that you would turn it down?
How long will it take you to make $1.3 million some other way?
Do you currently send money to help the Bosnians?  Do you think
doing this is important?  Of course, with $1.3M in your pocket,
you could help out a lot more...

Yes, Spassky can be criticized, but it's absurd to say there's no
excuse.  At least, *I* wouldn't turn it down...
From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: fischer match coverage
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:09:55
Organization: CSUA/UCB
	<1992Aug31.170502.19559@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
	<1992Sep2.154326.19007@midway.uchicago.edu>
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In-reply-to: eb11@quads.uchicago.edu's message of 2 Sep 92 15:43:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.154326.19007@midway.uchicago.edu> eb11@quads.uchicago.edu (Ernest Barreto) writes:

   In article <1992Aug31.170502.19559@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> watsonb@alcohol.ecn.purdue.edu (Bradley S Watson) writes:
   >>|> Telechess has an advertisement in the August issue of
   >>|> Inside Chess an advertisement in the August issue of
   >>|> Inside Chess.
   >>|> 
   >>|> Phone number: 1-900-988-0078
   >>|> The info line: Ext 664, "round by round updates on all the action"
   >>|> The game line: Ext 565, "Don't miss a single move"
   >>|> 
   >>|> Average call two minutes.  $2.00 per minute.  Touch tone phone.
   >>|> Under 18 requires parental consent.
   >>


   the washington post's "post-haste" system has it for free.

   I lost the number -- anyone have it?

   i remember it's code 8400.

Thanks for this info.  I got the Post's main number from information
and the Post Haste number, 1-202-334-9000, from the Post front desk.
I called it at 12:40 PDT and was on hold for 3-4 minutes before
getting to enter the 8400 code.  I got an announcement welcoming
me to the "World Chess Championship hotline" (wow, down with FIDE!) 
followed by someone giving the first 22 moves.  This was at least
a few minutes after the r.g.c. post about a brilliant Spassky sac
at move 34, so clearly Post Haste doesn't give you all the moves
as they happen.  Since no one has posted the first 22 moves here yet,
here they are, modulo typos:
 1 e4 e5 2 Nf3 Nc6 3 Bb5 a6 4 Ba4 Nf6 5 O-O Be7 
 6 Re1 b5 7 Bb3 b6 8 c3 O-O 9 h3 Nb8 10 d4 Nbd7
 11 Nbd2 Bb7 12 Bc2 Re8 13 Nf1 Bf6 14 Ng3 g6 15 Bg5 h6
 16 Bd2 Bg7 17 a4 c5 17 d5 c4 18 b4 Nh7 20 Be3 h5
 21 Qd2 Rf8 22 Ra3 Ndf6
I haven't yet played this over to check for mistakes, and I'll
spare you high-strength readers from my fish-like analysis
(others out there can do a much better job).
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: ovel@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Ove Lundberg)
Subject: Re: Fuzzy Rules/PA State Championship Controversy
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:58:57 GMT

I once saw something similar in a Swedish tournament.
It was a game one hour each game between GM Karlsson and
IM Degerman.
The situation:
Degerman: King, Rook, pawn
Karlsson: King, Knight
And Degerman run out of time.
The TD decided that it was a draw, but Karlsson protested.
The TD still thought it was a draw, but Karlsson insisted and
suggested a phone call to the Swedish Chess Federation.
The TD made the call, and declared Karlsson the winner as it
was possible to contstruct a mate for Karlsson's side.
Most of us were disgusted...

Ove Lundberg, Uppsala, Sweden
From: jrbd@craycos.com (James Davies)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer - Spassky: The Prize
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:47:34 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <1992Sep3.182204.17591@midway.uchicago.edu> hau4@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Just a little thought:
>
>We have learned that the prize fund of $5M was offered by a certain Serbian
>"businessman". I don't recall any information on what his "business" is. 

The Wednesday New York Times story refers to him as "a shadowy Yugoslav
entrepreneur, Jezdimir Vasiljevic".   Stories at the time the match was
announced described him as the owner of Jugoskandik (or Scandibank), one of 
Yugoslavia's largest private banks, and as a hotel owner.
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: sharring@cs.tamu.edu (Steven L Harrington)
Subject: Re: Boycott
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 05:39:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.030638.15123@afit.af.mil> wbralick@afit.af.mil (Will Bralick) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.013157.24190@tamsun.tamu.edu> sharring@cs.tamu.edu (Steven L Harrington) writes:
>| In article <1992Sep1.204826.12408@afit.af.mil> wbralick@afit.af.mil (Will Bralick) writes:
>| 
>| >Which _basic principles_ of human rights have been violated in this case
>| >and where are they defined and agreed to by the nations participating
>| >in the UN sanctions?  Mr. Fischer has no _right_ to play chess wherever
>| >he pleases.                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>| >^^^^^^^^^^
>| 
>| This is so laughable to a libertarian like myself, that I hesitate to
>| respond... What are governments for? Clearly, according to Will Bralick, 
>| they exist to dictate what (supposedly) free-thinking individuals like
>| Fischer, you, and I can do...
>

>So you argue that Mr. Fischer has the Right to Play Chess _wherever he
>pleases_.  For example, at my house -- with or without my permission.  
>Don't I have any private property rights?  Mr. Fischer does not have the 
>Right to Play Chess _wherever he pleases_ because it may please him to 
>Play Chess at my house.  It is tyrants like Mr. Harrington who seek to 
>deprive us of our private property rights.

I thought it was quite clear that the "wherever he pleases" clause
in question was in regards to geographical location. Isn't the whole
crux of the idealistic boycott advocates' argument that this is taking
place in Yugoslavia? Thus, your introduction of private property
and the "in my house" analogy is a non-sequiter. We're not debating
whether Fischer should be allowed to hold a chess match in someone's
house without consent of the property owner. Those, you among them,
that claim he hasn't the right to play are stating that he cannot
play in an _entire_ country AND in a public locale (or otherwise
a private locale _with_ consent of property owners). If this distinction
isn't clear, then I suppose I'm wasting my breath...

Now that I've (hopefully) cleared that up, I stand by my previous
post completely and I see nothing in your followup that answers
my question(s) concerning just _who_ should determine what 
Fischer is allowed to do [#include <standard disclamer.h> i.e.
barring the victimization of others]. 

--muchisimas gracias, Steve

>
>

Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: sigurdg@ifi.uio.no (Sigurd Gl{rum)
Subject: Re: Fischer Spits!
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:32:46 GMT
Originator: sigurdg@brenna.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Sep3.000639.27067@news.cs.indiana.edu>, hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu (Paul Hager) writes:
> dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel M. DuBois) writes:
> 
> >mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley) writes:
> 
> >>In article <benwood.715369504@milton> benwood@milton.u.washington.edu (Ben Henwood) writes:
> >>>
> >>>So far, I haven't seen any mention of "the girl" who is there with 
> >>>Fischer.  The Seattle Times reporter her yesterday, 31 Aug, as a
> >>>19-year-old Hungarian Chess prodigy (they had her name, but I didn't
> >>>bring in the article).  I heard that Inside Chess had some information
> >>>on her, too.
> 
> >>Her rating is in the 2100-2200 range.  What else do you need to know.
> >>:-)

According to the (Norwegian) newspaper "Dagbladet" her name is
Zita Raiczanyi (never heard of her before).

The same article mentioned that french authorities had threatened Spasskij 
with some form of punishment for breaking the boycott.

Sigurd Gl{rum
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From: kermits@pasifae.cc.uch.gr (Aggelos Keromyths)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess,rec.games.go,rec.games.board,news.groups
Subject: Re: rec.games.strategic
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:13:47 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Crete HELLAS
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I would love to see a rec.games.strategic.....
It's something that i think is missing ,along with a rec.games.wargames...
Aggelos
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: karttu@mits.mdata.fi (Antti Karttunen)
Subject: Re: Stalemate (was Re: handicap in chess)
Organization: MITS, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 18:52:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.025956.7134@ists.ists.ca> sizone!justin@ee.ryerson.ca  (Justin Wells) writes:
>
>But somehow to me the stalemate/checkmate distinction seems to be 
>theoretically impure.  The object of the game can be stated
>quite simply as being: "To capture the enemy king."
>
>Instead of having rules for stalemate, checkmate, check, and so forth,
>why not just have one rule that says: "If you remove the enemy king from
>the board, you win."

And that's exactly how the rule is in Shogi. "The object of the game is
to be the first to capture the opponent's king."

I was surely quite amazed when I played first times against a PC98 Shogi
program, and it left its king in check in the hopeless situation. Well,
of course I promptly ate it, yum-yum, and that was the end of the game.
(Hmm, what about giving a handicap by removing your own king from the board. ;-)


>Justin
>(reply to sizone!justin@ee.ryerson.ca or post)
>

-- 
Antti Karttunen       --  $B%"%s%C%F%#!!%+%k%C%H%%%M%s(J  (et{ty|t|n)
karttu@mits.mdata.fi  --  Apatheist, although not particularly proud of it.
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From: mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley)
Subject: The Fischer match on Prodigy (was Re: Fischer match on ICS)
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 04:04:56 GMT

After reading the post regarding prodigy covering the match, a friend
and I logged on to Prodigy to see what they had in their announcements. 
I was surprised to find that the only mention of the game was last week,
and that they haven't given any specific as to time or anything else. 
Now according to them, the matches start tommorrow (9/2/92) and as of
10PM they still haven't said anything more about this.  Isn't that kind
of flaky of prodigy?

		William Moxley
		mox@vpnet.chi.il.us
From: capsa@igc.apc.org (CAPSA)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Biel 92
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:29:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1451600033:000:1340
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!capsa    Aug 25 16:29:00 1992


Cat. XVI Biel international that finished earlier this month.  Following are
those results and the game he chose to analyze today:

Pos Player (ELO)         Pts
 1  Karpov (2715)        10.5
 2  Georgiev, Ki. (2610)  9
 3  Miles (2595)          7
4-5 Beliavsky (2595)      6.5
4-5 Lautier (2580)        6.5
 6  Kortschnoi (2575)     6
 7  Shirov (2710)              5.5
 8  Hansen, C. (2635)     4.5

Move Karpov  Miles       Move Karpov Miles
  1  d4      e6           18  Rh6    Rg7
  2  c4      Bb4          19  Rf6    ed
  3  Bd2     Bd2          20  cd     Re8
  4  Qd2     b6           21  g5     Kb8
  5  Nc3     Bb7          22  Bh5    Reg8
  6  e4      Nh6          23  Bf7    Rc8
  7  f4      f5           24  e6     de
  8  e5      Nf7          25  de     Nb4
  9  0-0-0   g5           26  a3     Nc6
 10  Nf3     Rg8          27  b4     Qf8
 11  Be2     Na6          28  Nd5    Qd6
 12  h3      gf           29  e7     Rf7
 13  Qf4     Qe7          30  Rf7    Q  Qe6
 14  g4      fg           31  Rf8    Ne5
 15  hg      Ng5          32  Rc8    Bc8
 16  d5      Nf3          33  Qf6    Qh3
 17  Bf3     0-0-0        34  Qe5    Qa3
                          35  Kd2    1-0

(I have not played over the game -- merely copied it from THE NEW YORK TIMES --
so I won't verify the accuracy of the score.)

Fraternally,

Jerome Bibuld
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Newsgroups: rec.games.chess,rec.games.go,rec.games.board,rec.games.programmer
Subject: Re: Strategic games, computational cost & implications
From: ron@zooid.guild.org (Secret Mud)
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:56:32 GMT

From: dif@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (David Faulkner)
>dwr2560@zeus.tamu.edu (RING, DAVID WAYNE) writes:
>
>>karttu@mits.mdata.fi (Antti Karttunen) writes...
>>>1) What is the most complex (human invented) game 'computationally'?
>>>Go???
>>
   ...

Does this have to be cross-posted to so many groups?
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: jeff@econ.Berkeley.EDU (Jeffrey C. Ely)
Subject: giics and Dennis Baker
Organization: Chessnews list (chessnews-request@tssi.com)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:23:50 GMT


2 questions about giics:

  I was one of the beta testers and so I have a very
  old version.  What's the latest version and where can 
  I get it.  I just want it to be known that this
  is not in the FAQ (I checked).  It should be shouldn't
  it?
  
  Also has anybody been able to get giics to run in
  MS Windows?  It'd be really nice if it could.
  
  Lastly:  doesn't everybody miss Dennis Baker. :-)  The
  guy bugged me too but it almost seems like he should be here 
  to moderate the ethics debate we've witnessed.  OK
  you're right I didn't mean that.


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