HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Helldiver Newsreader 1.06 for Waffle and Windows
Keywords: newsreader helldiver waffle windows
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:56:04 GMT
Reply-To: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au

Yes, here it is!!  The announcement you've all been waiting for!!  It's the ...

[Trumpet Fanfare]

	Helldiver Newsreader for Waffle and Microsoft Windows

[Sound of Cheering Crowd]

[Silly Mode OFF]

:-)

Yes, after much procrastination on my part, it has finally arrived: my
off-line newsreader for Waffle 1.64/1.65 and Micrsoft Windows 3.0/3.1.  It has
been doing the rounds here in Brisbane, Australia for a couple of months now
so I could get the bugs out, and it's now ready for a real test (I hope :-) .

So, here's the feature list of the Helldiver Newsreader, version 1.06:

        * Shows a list of subjects (and authors) for the articles in each
          newsgroup and allows you to select which ones you want to read.
        * Subject threading.
        * Multiple offline users, and password protection.
        * Uses Waffle's RMAIL and RNEWS to send mail and post news.
        * Follow-up, reply and forward facilities, including signatures.
        * Reads the user's mailbox.
        * Supports the Unix .newsrc file format and Waffle's JOIN file.
        * Interactive subscription and unsubscription facilities.
        * Multi-part uudecoding of news articles.
        * rot13 article decoding.
        * An address book file for each user that holds people's names and
	  e-mail addresses, providing a friendlier alternative to mail aliases.
        * Both "point and shoot" and keyboard equivalents for nearly all
          commands.
	* A command to search for articles cross-posted to news.answers so
	  FAQ's can be quickly identified.
	* Editing the signature file.
	* A "biff" utility for notifying you when new mail arrives.
        * Runs under the Standard or 386 Enhanced modes of Windows.

Where can I get it, you ask?  It is currently on halcyon.com in the
/pub/incoming directory (the filename is helld106.zip).  It will probably be
moved to somewhere under /pub/waffle on halcyon.com in the next few days.
If no serious bugs crop up in the next week or so, I'll upload it to the
waffle directory on Simtel20.  Feel free to put it on mail servers,
anonymous UUCP hosts, etc, etc, etc.

Any comments, suggestions, flames, etc can be sent to me at the address below,
or posted in comp.bbs.waffle.

Cheers,

Rhys.
--
Rhys Weatherley, University of Queensland, Australia.
rhys@cs.uq.oz.au  "I'm a FAQ nut - what's your problem?"
From: system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: How to get .SIG's tacked on...
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:09:03 GMT
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10-155, Auckland, New Zealand

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:

> --
> System@micromed.com (Duane Davis)                   voice (408)293-3299
> Micro-Medic                          public access usenet (408)279-5240
> 711 Lincoln Avenue                  public access pcboard (408)280-1610
> San Jose, CA 95126                    FileServer - FTPMail@micromed.com
> System@micromed.com (Duane Davis)                   voice (408)293-3299
> Micro-Medic                          public access usenet (408)279-5240
> 711 Lincoln Avenue                  public access pcboard (408)280-1610
> San Jose, CA 95126                    FileServer - FTPMail@micromed.com

WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! Will Robinson. Sig length in excess of 
obnoxium tolerance. WARNING! WARNING! WARNING!

-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
  This .sig unintentionally left blank.

Hello! I'm a .SIG Virus. Copy me and spread the fun.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: MuliTech Modem and news
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 92 12:02:46 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway. Parnell New Zealand

I have a simple question which I am sure someone has answered in
the past but it has slipped past me.
 
Do any sites have a MultiTech V32 modem attached to their waffle 
sites? If you do can you please mail me your modem string file.
 
I am having major problems with one site I poll being ..
 * Bad header 0a etc etc ..
I have set uu.errors to 10000
I have BNU set to 19k2 
I have BNU defined in static
I have the high speed uarts on my serial ports
I have set uu.window to 3

The system is a 386dx40, under MSDOS 5.0.

I suspect it is a simple streaming / flow control problem as I have
no problem uploading to this site only receiving my news feed. As
the multiTech can not turn on and off streaming I would like to know
how in V42bis/V32 others are doing it with out the errors.
(Sorry forgot to mention I have uu.locked to 19200)
 
Thanks in advance

                                                  _
 Jon Clarke                                     o( )       
 jonc@status.gen.nz                            /  /\        GE: J.CLARKE6
 The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand      HSBC NZM  EBD
From: koos@kzdoos.hacktic.nl (koos van den hout)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: How to return from waffle?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:17:42 GMT
Organization: HIN / BBS Koos z'n Doos
NewsSoftware: Rnf 0.7b

dougw@brownvm.brown.edu (Doug Wilkinson) writes:

>I call Waffle from another BBS application, but when a user types bye to
>return to the BBS, Waffle does something (DTR flop?) to hang up the modem.
>
>How can this be disabled without changing my modem config to ignore DTR?  I
>just want Waffle to leave the modem alone.

It's simple : Disable the logoff logout and so commands from the static file
(disable : logoff logout exit bye) and make a file for each command with the
name of the command with /exit=1 (or any errorlevel) in it.

                                        Grtx. KH

/-- Koos van den Hout ----------------------------------------------- Sysop --\
| Student Computer Science (AKA HIO)       BBS Koos z'n Doos (+31-3402-36647) |
| Inter-: koos@kzdoos.hacktic.nl                 300..14400 MNP2-5,10,V42bis) |
| net   : vandenhout@ruumtc.tcu.ruu.nl          Fido: Sysop @ 2:500/101.11012 |
| Surfnet RUUMTC::VANDENHOUT                                                  |
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Chat
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:14:46 GMT

thuy@west.darkside.com (dzuong) writes:

>Does anyone have CHAT mode work at all? Please help. Thanks.
>I am testing on Waffle 1.65. Chat never works.

It's working here and elsewhere.  Never heard this problem before.
More details, please.
From: system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Multiple modems?
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:08:49 GMT
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10-155, Auckland, New Zealand

kilgore@obelisk.pillar.com (Stan Hall) writes:

>    Matter of fact (without looking) I believe that you are allowed
>    to use as many copies of Waffle as you wish as long as you run
>    them on one CPU.  Though you think windows is slow with just 
>    one copy of Waffle in the background.......

Well, when there isn't a caller on-line, I think Waffle is great with 
Windows. Thanks to 1.65 and the time-slice surrender. THANKS TOM!

Speaking of Windows, and time-slices, can someone clarify something in 
the documentation for me:

        multitask : dos

  Enables file locking for MS DOS systems. The SHARE program must
  be loaded (it's loaded automatically for some versions of DOS). This
  function may not work on all system or network configurations.

  If SHARE is not loaded an error message is displayed and Waffle will
  terminate. Any problems with this, mail <dell@vox.darkside.com>;
  this feature is new and hasn't been tested on many configurations.

  Policy notes: We did not intend this function to multitask copies on
  a single machine, but over a LAN supporting the standard DOS lock
  functions. If you run multiple copies of Waffle, we ask that each 
copy
  be registered (we will give discounts to such sites.)

        multitask : desqview

  Relinquishes time slices when Waffle is idle to DesqView. If
  DesqView is not loaded, this option is ignored. Note: This should
  not be construed as explicit support for DesqView.

        multitask : windows

  Like the DesqView option above, relinquishes time slices when
  Waffle is idle to Windows.

  Multiple options may be specified in the MULTITASK parameter.

MY QUESTIONS ARE AS FOLLOWS:

1. Does "multitask: windows" need the file locking capability referred 
to in "multitask: dos" if you run more than one Waffle window, or is 
the handling of it in Windows, or the "multitask: windows", or is it 
only required over a LAN configuration and not a single CPU (as the 
docs may be suggesting)???? That is quite compliacted for one question.

2. "Multiple options may be specified..." Well I tried, and failed. 
Probably my syntax. Can someone give me an example. Depending on the 
answer(s) to 1. I may not want to at the moment, but it would be useful 
to know. I tried:

multitask: windows dos
 and
multitask: windows, dos

and received messages about invalid parameters in my static file.

BTW: The manual quotes come from STATIC.DOC.


-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
  This .sig unintentionally left blank.

Hello! I'm a .SIG Virus. Copy me and spread the fun.
From: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Can FEEDS files have multiple entries?
Keywords: dos waffle 165 news feed
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 21:09:48 CDT
Organization: TCS Consulting Services, St. Paul, MN

clubzen.fidonet.org!garrett!mwallis writes:

> system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
> 
> > What would be nice is to let down-mail sites be able to specify / change 
> > the groups that they want and have the FEEDS file edited automatically. 
> > This is something I plan to work on....unless someone else is already 
> > doing so, or has done so. Comment?
> 
> I agree whole heartedly. I was/am planning to work on this once I find
> where I left my "free time".            8-)
> 
> In the mean time, speak up if you've already written it.


If my weekend goes according to plan, I should have something finished 
monday or tuesday.  I've been working on this for a bit, but not very hard. 
Not yet at least. :)   


I've not been getting news for a while, and I don't remember what the 
general consensus was about encoding and posting Waffle related programs to 
this group.  Is it ok to do so?

Greg

.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.
.   TCS Consulting Services   P.O. Box 600008   St. Paul, MN  55106-0008    .  
     
.   zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com                    ..!srcsip!tcscs!zeta    .
.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.-=-.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: poor transfer rates in Dos Waffle
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:07:30 GMT

In article <9q8asB2w165w@victrola.sea.wa.us> vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan) writes:
|I connect to a Sun with a WorldBlazer that can't run windows=7
|for certain reasons...
|
|I still haven't gotten an answer regarding why
|I can call a Telebit Trailblazer system with Procomm and get 1040 cps
|but I can't hit 700 via Waffle uucp to the same system.

Because UUCP/g's protocol window when running with 3 windows is 210 bytes.
At 14.4 kbaud, (assuming no v.42 or v.42bis) it takes about 150 microseconds
to send enoguh data for the window to close, or 50 miscroseconds per packet.
This means that for full throughput, you must get an ACK at most 150ms after
sending the packet or the window will close and you will stop sending.

Using 7 windows ups this number to 350ms, a much more reasonable number.

|The other possible tell-tale was that I can get 1620 cps to a USR-DS
|when I download files from them in Procomm, but when they call my Waffle
|they only get 1340 downloading from me (why the difference?).

Could be their problem -- i.e. they're not as good at receiving as they
are at sending, or your problem -- you're not as good at sending as you
are at receiving.  Do you have a 16550 UART in the port that the modem
is on?

  Bill
From: herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (daniel lance herrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Utility to Explode Digests?
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:45:02 EST

In article <ywBgsB1w165w@cybrspc.UUCP>, roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
> One idea has been passed along to me that will work for creating ID
> fields from scratch, and I'll probably use it for undigest.  But I still
> want to be able to create an ID field that looks like Waffle's, so I can
> incorporate it into the API.

Ok, Roy, as a penance for offending you in my first response in this
thread:

Let N be a suitable number (the unix date in seconds since the beginning
of the universe or dos tics since another beginning of the universe).  Do
a radix conversion of N by the standard radix conversion algorithm:

while (N)
  {
    next_higher_digit = N modulo radix
    N = N / radix
  }

Make a string, DigMaster = "0123456789AKLmzqr"

Use strlen (DigMaster) as the radix.  for each trip through the loop,
attach DigMaster[next_higher_digit] to one end of the unique string.
(For purity's sake, attach it on the left, but for this application
it does not matter and it is easier to put it on the right.)  What you
will get is numerals in the specified radix using the characters in
DigMaster as the digits.

This is not likely to be Tom's algorithm, but it is an algorithm that
will make unique (if the N's are unique) strings of any general appearance
you choose by suitable choice of DigMaster.

dan
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Stupidity Nomination -- Most creative use of cancel and expire
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 01:05:44 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

I found this in news.misc

It looks like we won't be seeing the waffle FAQ this month!


scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons) writes:

> 
> One of the system status reports we run periodically rummages thru
> /var/spool/news and looks for things which should have been expired
> but aren't.  Recently we turned up the following article in control:
> 
> 
>   Path: hela.iti.org!usc!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!ira.uka.de!Germany.EU.net!news.
>   From: kate@ponton.hanse.de (Katharina Baumann)
>   Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,news.answers
>   Subject: cancel <waffle-faq_715763706@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com>
            ^^^^^^^^^

>   Message-ID: <RuksqB6w164w@ponton.hanse.de>
>   Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 17:55:14 MEZ
>   Expires: Tue, 20 Oct 1992 07:15:06 GMT
>   Control: cancel <waffle-faq_715763706@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com>
>   Sender: root@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com
>   Reply-To: kate@ponton.hanse.de (Katharina Baumann)
>   Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
>   Organization: none
>   Approved: news-answers-request@MIT.edu
>   Lines: 41
> 
> Yes, there were 41 lines of text in this cancel message which was posted
> September 8 with a SIX WEEK expire date.  Just when you thought you'd
> seen it all....
> -- 
> scs:  Tied for last on the Zwicky list with `zwicky'.


Was this done maliciously?



dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)


Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: julian@sdf.lonestar.org (P. Julian Eby)
Subject: TIP: How to create restricted-access INFO & HELP
Summary: /help/<password>/dir, external /command="help <password> dir"
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:08:53 GMT

I'm setting up my Waffle system right now.  I wanted to restrict user access
to certain INFO and HELP files, but could not for the life of me figure out
how, since disabling commands makes them unavailable for aliasing in an extern
file.

Then I hit on it.  Let's say I want to create a restricted directory tree
BONDAGE...  All I do is choose a random, 8-character password, say CUBE34GP,
and make a /waffle/info/cube34gp/bondage directory.  Now I create my extern
command, with a /command="info cube34gp bondage".  When Waffle executes this,
it will pull up the MENU file in the bondage directory, and prompt for
"BONDAGE Topic?", neatly hiding the intervening "hidden directory."

Note that for this to work, you must not list the password directory
(cube34gp in this example), in your info/menu file.  Also, you must have a
dummy menu file in the password directory for waffle to correctly process
the /command, and the INFO command must not be disabled.  Now you can have
a standard INFO command, but only a user who knows the secret password
(which you never give out) can use the INFO command to access the restricted
topic directories.  In my case, I'm setting up a LIBRARY external that will
have a menu of topic directories, that the waffle/extern/library file will
contain the selections and /commands for.

Actually, it has just occurred to me as I write this that I could dispense
with the INFO command and just put everything under waffle/help, and then
create a waffle/extern/info command that uses /command="help <password> <dir>"
to do the dirty work.  Ah, now that's even better...

Anyway, that's my tip, for what it's worth.  Maybe somebody will find this
useful, and stick it in the FAQ or docs or something.

More comments and questions to come.
  _____
   _/__)
___/
From: boomer@wuntvor.pillar.com (Boomer)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:59:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: wuntvor.k29msB1w165w
Distribution: world
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

system@CODEWKS.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
> Well I just did, and YES an invalid command and just hitting 
> enter/return/CR both generate a "turn", "move" or "command" for the 
> purposes of sinning. So it would be very easy for a crazy terminal to 
> send 256 CR's in 2 minutes.

     Ahh, but this is a good thing.  Particularly if your modem doesn't
always drop carrier correctly.  This way, if the caller hangs up, the CR
line noise will eventually kill itself.
     (I know, I know, drop the modem from a tall building...)

 --- 
  Tom Egelston                                   boomer@wuntvor.pillar.com
     "Is there anybody listening? Is there anyone who sees what's going on?
           Read between the lines, criticize the words they're saying.
    Think for yourselves and feel the walls become sand beneath your feet."
                                       -- Queensryche, "Anybody Listening?"
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: WWIV gateway
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:03:20 GMT

In article <k2q0RB2w165w@cyberden.uucp> moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us writes:
|Can someone post the pertinant information, IE, who to contact or how
|to get this version of WWIVnet?

It's called WWCP, and version 1.20 is available via anonymous ftp from
halcyon.com in /pub/waffle/miscnets/wwcp120.zip .

  Bill
From: Bob Van Cleef <revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: moderated groups
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 22:19:56 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Land of Garg

Hi;

I am still having trouble under Waffle 1.65 posting a [F]ollow
to a message in a moderated group. It skips the editor stage and
jumps directly to the question on mailing to the moderator.

Any pointers would be helpful.

Bob

><>  ><>  ><>  ><>  ><>  ><>     \|/     <><  <><  <><  <><  <><  <><
Bob Van Cleef                    -0-        revc@garg.Campbell.CA.US
The Land of Garg BBS             /|\               BBS (408) 378-5108
><>  ><>  ><>  ><>  ><>  ><>      |      <><  <><  <><  <><  <><  <><
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Waffle, DOS & Perl
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:35:59 GMT

rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt) writes:

>Also, isn't remote.halcyon.com set up for FREQs, ralph?

It's uuexe515.zip, these days.  And yes, Fidonet node 1:343/94
(aka remote.uucp) does provide Fidonet file requests (points
and unlisted nodes as well).
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: gert@greenie.gold.sub.org (Gert Doering)
Subject: Re: UUXQT and DOS-Filename munging
Organization: GreeniE
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:51:01 GMT

johler@mountain.gold.sub.org (Thomas Johler) writes:

>I think, I found the solution myself. It's a bug in taylor-uucp as well
>as in waffle's uuxqt. Taylor-uucp appends blanks in the .X files

>X.hostnameN0012.X\n  instead of
                ^^ this should read "X.hostnameN0012 \n" with a blank at
the end.

>X.hostnameN0012\n

>and uuxqt doesn't ignore them (but uucico does !)


gert
-- 
Gert Doering | SubNet  : gert@greenie.ucrc.sub.org      | mailbox / uucp:
Munich / FRG | InterNet: gdoering@physik.tu-muenchen.de | call (089)3243328
(089)3243228 | FidoNet : gert.doering@2:246/55.4        | login bbs / nuucp
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: steve@jack.sns.com (J. Steven Harrison)
Subject: Re: Waffle "dirs" File
Organization: Systems'n'Software
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 18:28:55 GMT

In article <73171@apple.Apple.COM> dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) writes:
>>Do all of the silly numbers in the left hand column of the dirs file have to
>>be consecutive? (if so what a dumb idea!)
>
>No, those silly numbers do not even have to be numbers. They are to be
>the name of the file area, in the future. Currently the numbers aren't used
>at all, and you may ignore them. (A future version may differ.) At no 
>time will they be required to be in any order, though.
>
>...Tom
>
>dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell

Hmm.......

This is most interesting. I found that one number was out of order, and I up'ed
buflines (my dirs file is quite large) and all worked again.

Is it correct to assume that enlarging buflines solved the problem not
renumbering the dirs file?


-- 
J. Steven Harrison, PhD.	steve@jack.sns.com
45034 Imnaha Court		Voice:	(510)623-8651
Fremont, CA   94539-6669	Data:	(510)623-8652
Systems'n'Software            	FAX:	(510)623-8656
From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:58:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: micromed.L5FcsB1w165w
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

bitbangr@moosevax.cojones.com (Anthony W. Hursh) writes:

> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> >then readily apparent to the casual observer that there is confirmation of
> >the existence of a problem.
> 
> Yes. But the claim that the problem lies in the BBS software rather than
> in the modem hardware is not at all "readily apparent".

I don't know what else you would call it. I posted a message back
when this discussion fisrts start that I had observed this same
problem, and not on just one machine.
 
I have seen it of 5 different computers (2 brand name and 3 clones),
4 different modems (Hayes, USR DS, Supra v.32bis, clone), several
different serial cards (with 16450 and 16550).

MOST of the time I have no problem. But, every once in a while carrier
will be lost and Waffle will just sit there until it times out due
to keyboard inactivity. It looks to me like Waffle isn't checking
carrier often enough.

I too am a programmer and have written and modified several BBS
packages, doors, and a ton of utilities to support them. Just
because you don't see the problem doesn't mean it doesn't happen,
or do you sit and watch your BBS 24 hours a day, 7 days a week?

Why don't we quit trying to put blame somewhere else and instead
put our efforts into a fix?


--
System@micromed.com (Duane Davis)                   voice (408)293-3299
Micro-Medic                          public access usenet (408)279-5240
711 Lincoln Avenue                  public access pcboard (408)280-1610
San Jose, CA 95126                    FileServer - FTPMail@micromed.com