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From: cummings@hammer.Prime.COM (Kevin Cummings)
Subject: Re: "Automagic" shoelace
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:07:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul18.150235.24314@pool.info.sunyit.edu>, ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson) writes:
> In article <1992Jul17.155956@hammer.Prime.COM> cummings@hammer.Prime.COM (Kevin Cummings) writes:
> >In article <1992Jul16.183143.14340@pool.info.sunyit.edu>, ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson) writes:
> >> 
> >> There is an svga_mode patch on tsx-11 for setting the video mode at boot
> >> time.  I've used it since Linux 0.95c, and have been pleased with it.
> >> Just install the patch, edit the top level Makefile to select the desired
> >> video mode, and recompile the kernel.  It's easier than editing setup.S.  :-)
> >
> >Maybe so, but setup.S has just changed for 0.96c-pl1.  I know, because I
> >added the VESA checking to it.  So the old patch file probably won't work.
> >Maybe I can do a few things with conditional compilation and a selection
> >in the Makefile?
> >
> 
> This is one of those neat things I'd like to see added to the stock
> Linux kernel as a compile-time option.  I wonder if it is possible to
> implement dynamic video mode setting at boot time?  Even if it was
> a patch to the binary, like setting the root device on a floppy boot
> image.

That's the very thing I had in mind for my next change in this area.
Though, you still want the uninformed user to at least be told what kind
of video card he needs to choose from (some of the clones out there aren't
very good at identifying themselves, others aren't very good at passing
the tests or supporting the modes they should!).

> I'm not expecting this to be implemented very soon, though, as this is
> more of a luxury at this stage of development.  :-)

Depends on how fast I can get myself motivated again in this area.  I'd rather
be spending my time understanding the S3 video chip, and what needs to be done
to X386 to get it to work.  I'm hoping to use the high level registers on the
chip to do most of the work!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: herfert@arctecws-4.informatik.uni-kl.de (Michael Herfert)
Subject: Re: Problem compiling the kernel
Reply-To: herfert@arctecws-4.informatik.uni-kl.de (Michael Herfert)
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:48:00 GMT


In article <1992Jul21.124846.2263@rhrk.uni-kl.de> herfert@arctecserv-1.informatik.uni-kl.de I wrote:
>I use Linux 0.96c and GCC 2.2.2.
>Compilation of the kernel is succesfull but when running there come error messages like:
>  getwd: can not access parent directory
>Any help ?

Ed Saffle has the same problem.
In my case the reason was that the root-file-system was made by Linux 0.96c.
My source-version was 0.96. I grabed the sources for 0.96c, compiled it and everything was okay. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: FLT_DIG, tabs, FPU, yacc
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 06:52:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.082501.20615@athena.mit.edu> J.Jagger@sheffield-city-poly.ac.uk writes:
>Hi peeps,
>I've just noticed that float.h has a line ;
>#define FLT_DIG 6
>I know that 6 is the number written in Plaugers ANSI C book, but he
>has acknowledged that this is an error, and it should be 7.
>I don't whether people leave it as 6 so as not to break existing code
>(can't imagine much would break), or whether they just don't know
>this.
>
>Couple of other queries.

Speaking of the compiler...

I've run into major problems with g++2.2.2.  It appears that one of the
g++ header files includes <unistd.h>, which then includes <sys/time.h> and 
<sys/times.h>.  The prototypes in unistd.h don't agree with the ones
in sys/time.h and sys/times.h, and I've been editing the header files
big time to get an application to compile.

Also, sc expected to find definitions for KEY_UP, KEY_DOWN, KEY_LEFT, and
KEY_RIGHT but they aren't found in curses.h (or any other header file for
that matter) even though a comment in that header file makes a reference 
to KEY_*.  Am I correct in assuming that curses.h is incomplete?  For now,
I have compiled sc to work without the arrow keys but it would be nice
to have them later.  :-)


-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson                                 ujlh@sunyit.edu
* "Yet another Jim in the Linux world."  :-)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@ophelia.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: ST-02, ST-51 disk controllers coexisting?
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 08:22:05 GMT

In article <tlhilde.712386705@roby.ecn.purdue.edu> tlhilde@roby.ecn.purdue.edu (Troy Hildebrand) writes:
>Hello,
>
>     I am trying to install Linux on my 386sx16, 2M, with an ST02
>controlling an (80 Meg) ST-296N and an st-51 controlling a 74Meg MFM
>drive (i'm not sure what kind, but the ST-51 bios recognizes it).
>
>Neither of the drives are in the ROM Bios (Phoenix), because the
>controllers take care of it.  The Problem is, when I boot linux from
>floppy, it recognizes the SCSI drive, but not the MFM drive.  And
>then later, it gives a warning, "READ CAPACITY FAILED" or something
>about the SCSI drive.

If the MFM disk is not in CMOS, it will not be supported.  If the ST51
is an AT controller, you can use the controller, just disable the BIOS on it.
If it's an XT controller, you are SOL.

You can pick up MFM/RLL controllers for < $20 if you talk to the local 
technicians - they pull them from equipment when upgrading systems 
to IDE drives, and practically give them away.

Note that if you change controllers on an MFM drive, it may not be reliable 
unless you re-lowlevel format it.

As far as the SCSI disk : newer SCSI drivers (kernel binary / sources 
available from headrest.woz.colorado.edu as /pub/linux/scsi* and vmunix* - 
pickout the newest files) handle things more gracefully.  Note
that you'll need to jumper the card for IRQ5, and will also have to 
change the bytes at offset 508 and 509 into the image so it doesn't try to 
mount root of dev 0x301.  Changing the bytes to 0,0 will cause it to 

>I would like to keep the SCSI drive for use under dos, and install
>linux onto the MFM drive (64 meg now, with extra partition for swap).
>Does anyone see a problem with this setup?  Will I be able to boot
>selectively ie, either OS, without hassle?

See above, and after you have it working, you can use a program like winiboot 
to selectively boot DOS or Linux.
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: yacc and lex
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:45:36 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <WEILER.92Jul21213719@crabapple.cis.ohio-state.edu>, weiler@crabapple.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jerry Weiler) writes:

| You should use bison and flex. bison is the GNU replacement for yacc
| and flex is the GNU replacement for lex. They're faster, more flexible
| and all around better. Bison and flex should be able to handle any
| grammer yacc and lex do (any well written one, that is)

  I'm not sure that defining a program which runs on yacc and lex and
break bison or flex as not "well written" is particularly useful. They
are alternative tools, but not the real thing. In some cases this may
reflect bugs, in others the desire to do neat things overcame the boring
original intent to provide a free replacement tool.

  If I sounds a bit peevish on this, I've had to listen to people
complain about trying to port stuff.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
From: sseiden@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Steve Seiden Information & Computer Science)
Subject: Re: Anyone using a Cyrix 387 clone out there?
X-Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
X-Original-Path: ucivax!noiro.acs.uci.edu!usc!cs.utexas.edu!mercury.unt.edu!sol!kenc
X-References: <1992Jul25.032522.6947@mercury.unt.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Reply-To: "Steven Samuel Jr. Seiden" <sseiden@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Date: 25 Jul 92 20:29:36 GMT
X-Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <1992Jul25.032522.6947@mercury.unt.edu> you write:
>Supposedly, the Cyrix chips are getting Darned cheap... (not a claim, just
>repeating a rumor...I'll have to check it out tomorrow)
>
>Anyway, Can anyone say that cyrix chips do/do not work with linux?  It'd be
>*great* to have one to help x along....(especially in xfig at ANY
>magnification at all)
>

I have a cyrix and it works fine. Payed $98 at Fry's electronics in Redono Bch
CA. I few days afterwards, they dropped the price of thier Intel coprocessors
to $99. (may have been a sale though.) If you can get one cheap locally,
I think you can order it from them.
From: barr@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Barr)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SoftWare.
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:38:37 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

awatts@st.nepean.uws.edu.au (Andrew Watts) writes:

>Two things, 

>First: What X programs do others use for wordprocessing and the like? (I'm 
>hoping someone will say something other than VI, and not TeX, perhaps some 
>other suggestions?)

Someone is working on porting Interviews to linux.  I haven't ever
seen this software package, but I've heard that it includes a wysiwyg
word processing program for X.

>Second: (pretty trivial, but anyhow) I was trying to compile xhextris from
>the contrib area of X11 ftp areas, well, it compiles fine, but (always a but
>isnt there :) I get this error -

># xhex

>Welcome, root...
>X Error of failed request:  BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
> Major opcode of failed request:  51 (X_SetFontPath)
> Value in failed request:  0x2
> Serial number of failed request:  4
> Current serial number in output stream:  5
>#

I think xhextris comes with a file called xhextris.bdf.  You need to type:

bdftopcf < xhextris.bdf > /usr/lib/X11/fonts/xhextris.pcf
cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts
mkfontdir .

If you are running X when you do this, the font will not show up
immediately, and you will have to type 'xset fp rehash' before you run
xhextris.  It will be loaded automatically the next time you run
'startx'.

David
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: BSD Unix aka Freedom is a myth....
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 02:46:20 GMT

   From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
   Date: 22 Jul 92 21:59:06 GMT

   I'm somewhat concerned about the possibility that some Linux developers
   might be familiar with AT&T code. For legal reasons it might be best
   to make sure that all Linux kernel code is developed by people with
   no prior experience with AT&T code.

Actually, what's really important is whether or not Linux developers had
access to AT&T code under a source license which contains the words
"methods and concepts".  What "methods and concepts" says is that the
licensor owns the "methods and concepts" used in the source code as
intellectual property, and if you ever write code that uses those same
"methods and concepts", the licensor owns it.

Fortunately for me, MIT as an institution refuses to sign _any_ license
which contains a "methods and concepts" clause.  You may want to check
the agreements you or your company have signed to see if they have that
deadly clause.

It may also good idea to make sure we don't use any significant pieces
of code from the BSD networking release, just to be sure, although I
doubt Linux is under any serious threat, since it isn't a commercial OS.

						- Ted

P.S.  Food for thought: apparently IBM holds a patent of emulating the
'Tab' character on a VDT screen.  IBM normally doesn't enforce it,
although apparently Microsoft paid a fair amount of money to IBM to
settle patent enfringements of this nature.

Also, AT&T owns the patent on backing store, and was attempting to
collect $25 for each X server that used backing store.  MIT (on behalf
of the X consortium) is currently fighting AT&T in court on this issue.
Sigh.... what else did you expect from a company whose logo is the Death
Star?  :-)

P.P.S.  Insert standard disclaimer: the views in this letter are my own,
and do not represent the opinions of MIT or its management.  Also, I am
Computer Scientist, not a Lawyer, so what I write should not be taken as
legal counsel.  I do occasionally play one on TV, though.  :-)
From: Michael_Kraehe@hb.maus.de (Michael Kraehe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Fax modem software
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:15:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

 > Has anyone out there ported software for fax modems to linux?
Try looking at <transit.mit.edu> there y'll find netfax3.0, perhaps
you can compile it :-=)

By Michael.
From: probreak@hurricane.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: File utilies weirdness
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:48:17 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: hurricane.ksu.ksu.edu



faith@bert.cs.unc.edu (Rik Faith) writes:


>I have removed these files from ftp on banjo.concert.net and on
>ftp.cs.unc.edu, and have asked that they not be placed on tsx-11.mit.edu.

>I have experienced some weirdness related to the cp program in
			 ^^^^^^^^^
What kind of "weirdness"?

>fileutl-3.3B, and until I understand the problem better, will withdraw
>these packages from distribution.  A new, clean distribution will have a
>different name (i.e., fileutl-3.3C).

>IF YOU DOWNLOADED THESE FILES, PLEASE DO *NOT* USE THEM.

>Especially, replace the "cp" program immediately, and tell me if you
>noticed any "strange" happenings.  I'd explain more, but I know that at
>this stage no one would believe me (hell, *I* don't even believe this. . .).

>Sorry for the inconvenience, I'll try to get old versions onto banjo in the
>morning.

-----------------------                              ---------------------------
-----------------------       James Chacon           -probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu-
-----------------------                              ---------------------------

-
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sjm86289@cs.tut.fi (Sami J. M{kinen)
Subject: Re: C_A_D=0
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:52:33 GMT


In article <1992Jul27.180447.28246@ifi.uio.no> janl@ifi.uio.no (Jan Nicolai Langfeldt) writes:
>I have mucked about with the kernel lately (0.96cpl2). When I set the
>C_A_D varaible to 0 (to avoid reboot on pressing C-A-D) (and compile,
>reboot :-). After login in and executing sync I press C-A-D and the
>system locks, completely... Anyone with similar experiences?

Yes.  I've run linux on a 486 with IDE hard disk and noticed the same.


-- 
// sjm

f u cn rd ths, u cnt spl wrth a dmn!

-- 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: herr@hp14.iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Gabor Herr)
Subject: Re: Problems with X as non-root
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:52:41 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt
Keywords: X tty

In article <1992Jul23.033256.1633@cs.tulane.edu>, butler@cs.tulane.edu (Larry Butler) writes:
> Hi,
>   I posted the original article(Problems with X as root). I seem to have
> fixed my problem. I did :
> 
> chmod u+s /usr/bin/X11/X386

> chmod u+s /usr/bin/X11/xinit
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
^^You need not do this any more. It was added to the instructions because of
a bug in the early 0.96 kernel, which was fixed in 0.96b. Only X386, xterm and
resize must run setuid-root.


Gabor

############################################################################
Gabor Herr			Email: herr@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
Computer Science Department
Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany
From: g-step@cs.yorku.ca (Neal Stephenson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: VGA700 & X
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:53:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: yetti.1377
Distribution: world
Organization: York University, Dept. of Computer Science

HI,
	I can't for the life of me get X to run on my machine.  I have
tried everything, done the calcualtions, tried X386 kit.  nothing
seems to work.
	I have a VGA700 card, it uses the Tseng ET4000 chip set and
supports HI-color. My monitor is a darius multisync up to 1024x768. No
matter what settings I use, I get the X386 message then a blank screen
nothing else. Update still runs in the background as the drive light
goes on. I can reboot with ctrl-alt-delete.
	I have run out of ideas. the other hardware is 486/33, 16M
ram, scsi adaptec 1542, serial mouse, mcc 0.96c, X11V1.1. Everything
else works fine except this.
	This machine is identical in software to my other machine on
which X works fine.
		Neal.
From: dhs@moeng2.minc.umd.edu (David H. Silber)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Fax modem software
Keywords: fax modem facsimile CCITT T.30 T.4
Date: 28 Jul 92 04:23:15 GMT
Organization: <This space intentionally left blank.>

Has anyone out there ported software for fax modems to linux?
I have a Zoom fax modem.  According to the manual: "The T.30 (CCITT
standard) portion of the handshake is handled by the faxmodem hardware,
while the T.4 portion is handled by your fax software."

			-- David H. Silber
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sevenup@netcom.com (Mark W. Moorcroft)
Subject: 1542b SCSI partitioning/install woes :-(
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 03:34:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: us

Machine description first:

386/16 w/AMI bios (87' vintage) w/ 4 meg.
Adaptec 1542b SCSI host adapter
Paradise plus/16 VGA (Pro II soon I hope)
2 80 meg SCSI drives           ID 0,1
1 60 meg SCSI tape (Archive)   ID 5


1542b setup

I/O  330
DMA  5
ID   7

under dos/windows/ASPI the bus on/off times need to be altered via
ASPI driver for stable operation. Under Linux ?????


Scenario:

With the tape drive disconnected the system will boot with either boot
image. With the tape connected it will boot under 0.96c-1 boot image,
but not with boot image in the SCSI directory on tsx-11 site (0.96c+).
	In either case the install script won't work to partition the
disk. If I log in as root I can get efdisk to partition the disk but
it won't save the drive info (cyl,head,sector), and when it restarts
the system the info is lost and I can go no farther.

Relevant messages:

(trimmed)

from 0.96c-1 boot:

--stuff deleted--

Host 0 is detected as Adaptec 1542
Adaptec 15421 host adapter detected
Detected SCSI disk at host 0: ID 0, lun 0
    "      "    "    "           1     "
    "      "  tape   "           5     "
    "      "    "    "           5     "  
Already have detected maximum number of scsi tapes
Unable to add drive at SCSI host Adaptec 1542, ID 5, lun 0
Detected 2 disks, 0 tapes total


from 0.96c+ boot:

--stuff deleted--

no Linux version listed
no floppy detect message
no socket init message
only 1 "1542 detected" message

--stuff deleted--

hard disk I/O error
dev 0301, block 1
bread failed
kernel panic ...

Question:

	How do I get the updated fdisk (not efdisk ?) from the SCSI
directory on tsx-11 onto the root disk, and for that matter how much
good will it do ?? Why does it detect the tape drive twice, and does
it matter ?? Is this just a small sampling of the frustration I'm in
for ?? I already feel like a british car owner (is it really worth
it), but I want to get Open Look working on my system real bad. :-)


--thanxeversomuch

-- 

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Mark W. Moorcroft -- sevenup@netcom.COM -- C.I.S. 70741,325
-------------------------------------------------------------
  "I speak for myself and those who agree with me !"   ;-)
From: f6930910@scheme.cs.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: catting binaries (again)
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:45:52 GMT
Reply-To: f6930910@scheme.cs.ubc.ca
Organization: The Internet


In my (just posted) message on catting binaries, I mentioned that 
the problem occurs only sometimes.  I should be more specific.
The reason I post this is because I just tried catting /bin/* to
stdout will no ill effects.  If you want to reproduce this error, 
try catting libc.2.2.2 in your /lib directory.  Using this file,
the error is reproducable.  

- Ken
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: 882028s@dragon.acadiau.ca (Ghazali Shafie)
Subject: HELP : FTPying Linux ( Do you do the transfer in binary )
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:01:10 GMT


I'm wondering , do I have to transfer it using binary , just like
any other DOS executable files .

Thanks
From: klaus%eccx.dnet@esu36.cfsat.honeywell.com (All you touch & all you see is all your life will ever be.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ksh for Linux & olwm for X (do they exist?)
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:07:12 GMT
Reply-To: klaus%eccx.dnet@esu36.cfsat.honeywell.com (All you touch & all you see is all your life will ever be.)
Organization: The Internet

Hi all,

I havn't noticed any mention of ksh (korn shell) being available for Linux..Is 
it?  Is the source code available somewhere if not?

Also, I succesfully compiled olvwm and I like it much better than twm, but it 
seems that this is just a scaled down version of Sun's olwm (i.e., I can't 
compile & run open look apps because I don't have the /usr/include/X11/Xol 
files.  Is olwm and it's libraries (and include files) freely available, or is 
this a proprietary sun thing?  I would like to implement the full open look 
package if possible, and try porting some ol packages...

Thanks!

Todd.Klaus@esu36.cfsat.honeywell.com
From: duncan@erim.org (Robert Duncan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Question about getting files from ftp sites
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:06:37 GMT
Reply-To: duncan@erim.org (Robert Duncan)
Organization: The Internet


|Now I am beginning to download some packages from various ftp sites, a new
|problem arises: Most files are named xxx.x.tar.Z, when I do (in binary mode) 
|"(m)get xxx.x.tar.Z", ftp won't send the file(s) to my PC (DOS) because
|the DOS file has to be named xxxxxxxx.yyy, no more than one period.  I have
|to do "get xxx.x.tar.Z  xxx.z".  But this is tedious, and once I mcopy 
|xxx.z to linux side, I have to do "mv xxx.z xxx.tar.Z", quite annoying.
|Any suggestions on how to avoid it?

If you can ftp them to a unix machine first, you can tar a bunch of them 
together as xxxxxx.tar, then ftp the combined tar file to the PC.  Use
Mtools or mount a msdos fs to get the file to Linux, where you can untar
the xxxxxxxx.tar file into the various package-yyy.tar.Z files.  I don't
know if this would be less trouble, but you would retain the original file
names and dates this way.

 Robert H. Duncan                             
 Environmental Research Institute of Michigan 
 PO Box 134001  Ann Arbor, MI 48113-4001
 (313)994-1200 x2880 Internet: duncan@erim.org