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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 08:37:04 EST
From:         "Krista E. Clumpner / Library,
              Head of Tech. Serv." <FACK@NMUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Pseudopatron msgs with due dates?

> We've received a request from one of our departmental libraries to allow for
> the due date to display for items charged out to a specific pseudopatron.
>
> Right now the Binding Pseudopatron says:
>
> 	At Bindery.  Ask for help.
>
> They would like it to say:
>
> 	At Bindery.  Due: 11/20/92
>
> (They have a rolling two-week binding and pickup schedule.)
>
> We have not been able to determine a (simple) way to both customize a
> pseudopatron message AND display the due date.  The alternative we're
> considering is having the library staff manually change the pseudopatron
> display text every two weeks. (!)
>
> Anyone figured out a way to let the machine do this instead?
> ==============================================================================
> Stephen Davis				email:  daviss@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu
> Ass't Director for Library Systems 	voice:  (212) 854-4744
> 219M Butler Library 	   		fax:    (212) 222-0331
> Columbia University
> New York, NY 10027
> ==============================================================================

Instead of setting up the Bindery as a pseudopatron we have set it up as
a temp location.  We put the temp location in the item record along with
a note of the due date in the item record.  We also set up this location
not to require barcodes in the item records so that we can send things
(such as periodicals) to the bindery and barcode the bound issue when it
returns.  In addition to having the message appear online saying that
the item is LOCATION: At the Bindery.  Due 11-17-92.  we have also used
SAS programming to develop a printed list of everything at that Temp
Location.  The list lists the title, volume & number, and the due date.
We put the list in an area that does not have access to a terminal to
access our OPAC.

Krista E. Clumpner
Head of Tech. Services & Systems
Olson Library
Northern Michigan University
Marquette, MI 49855
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From:         "Beverly Westermeyer, OIRM" <IRMGE005@SIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      pcs as workstations

From:   Beverly Westermeyer, OIRM

The Smithsonian Institution (Washington, D.C) is a new NOTIS site
(the ink probably isn't dry on the contract) and we're very
interested in the recent NOTIS-L messages about using PCs as
workstations for NOTIS (actually, we're interested in almost all of
the information shared on NOTIS-L)!  I'm sure you'll be hearing
from my SI colleagues, who have been lurking about NOTIS-L (like
me) for quite some time.  Many NOTIS libraries have heard from us
while we were doing our RFP evaluations.  We're happy to be able to
participate on NOTIS-L and hope to learn from the wealth
of expertise and experience found here!

For now though, we are trying to decide on an IBM compatible
microcomputer to use for NOTIS access for all our users (public and
staff).  We're considering Dells or Gateways - 386, VGA monitor,
with hard drive and floppy drives.  Any experiences and information
you can share with us with be greatly appreciated.  You can email
me directly or share the information directly on NOTIS-L.

P.S. Our system is called the Smithsonian Institution Research
Information System, or SIRIS.  We serve the Smithsonian Institution
Libraries, and several SI Archives and Research Units.

Beverly Westermeyer, SIRIS Manager
---------------------------------------------------------------
Beverly Westermeyer  -  IRMGE005@SIVM.BITNET
Office of Information Resource Management
Smithsonian Institution, Washington, D.C.
From: CADNOTTS@UIAMVS.BITNET (University of Iowa Libraries)
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Subject: Re: ARL stats & NOTIS expenses
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:42:00 GMT
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Anne:
  Sorry for the late reply, but we do not include our NOTIS expendi-
tures in our ARL statistics.  We pay actual CPO, printer charges,
etc. but out of of special budget.

Donna Hirst, Manager of Library Automation
University of Iowa

> I have been asked by the library administration to pose the
> following of fellow ARL-NOTIS users.
>
> 1. Do you include any of your NOTIS expenditures - CPU time, hardware
>    maintenance & costs, disk storage costs, etc., in any of your
>    ARL statistics?
>
> 2. If yes to #1, where on the ARL stats do you report it?
>    And how much did you report last year or will you report this year?
>
> 3. Do you pay a flat fee for computing support or do you pay actual
>    CPU, printing charges, etc?
>
> Anne Highsmith
> NOTIS Coordinator
> Texas A&M U.
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:31:25 -0500
From:         "JUDITH HOPKINS AT SUNY BUFFALO" <ULCJH@UBVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Description of Tags and Formats

   In response to Colegate Spinks' request for information on the
008 field, that field IS an essential part of the USMARC formats; he
can find a description of it in the various format documents, e.g.,
USMARC FORMAT FOR BIBLIOGRAPHIC DATA; USMARC FORMAT FOR AUTHORITY DATA;
etc.   The following description is taken from the bibliographic format
portion of USMARC CONCISE FORMAT FOR BIBLIOGRAPHIC, AUTHORITY, AND
HOLDINGS DATA.   There are similar paragraphs in the authority and
Holdings portions of that volume.

008 FIXED-LENGTH DATA ELEMENTS (NR)

Forty character positions (00-39) that contain positionally-defined
data elements that provide coded information about the record as a
whole and about special bibliographic aspects of the item being
cataloged.  Character positions 00-17 and 35-39 are defined the same
for all forms of material, with special considerations for position 06.
Character positions 18-34 are generally defined differently for each
specification, although some data elements are defined for more than
one form of material.  In such cases, they occupy the same character
positions wherever they are defined.

Undefined character positions contain either a blank or a fill
character.  All defined character positions must contain either a
defined code or a fill character.


I hope this helps.

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Judith Hopkins                            VOICE: (716) 645-2796
Technical Services Research and Analysis Officer
Central Technical Services                FAX:   (716) 645-5955
Lockwood Library Building
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:57:48 CST
From:         "Floris St.Amant" <NOTFCS@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Bill/Fine Notice
              6 Nov 1992 09:51:00 CST from <aaa1750.dsc1@PCMAIL.DCCCD.EDU>

Welcome to the Bill/fine system from HELL!!! This will happen everytime you
have a patron returning overdue books from different service units on the same
day . If books are all returned at the same service desk, a bill will be printe
d showing all books returned at that service station  with just one total,i.e.,


Title 1 (Main Library)
It 1
Overdue fine $5.00

Title 2 (branch library)
It 2
overdue fine $2.00

TOTAL         $7.00


However if patron retuned overdue books from different areas at different areas
, a bill will be printed for material returned at one location AND the the tota
l of charges for overdue materials returned at some other location(s) will be a
dded as "previous balance". Patron will get a separate bill for each location
where books were overdue books were returned, each bills referencing the total
charges from other areas as "previous balance". i.e,

Title returned at main LIbrary:
Title a  ( main Library)
overdue $3.00

Title b ( branch 1)
overdue $4.00

Title c ( branch 2)
overdue $5.00

Current charges  $12.00

Previous charges $8.00

total charges$20.00



 The previous charges will appear as follows:

A separate bill is printed for items returned in branch 1

Item d (branch 1)
overdue $4.00



Current charges   $4.00
Previous charges  $16.00

Total charges $20.00


A separate bill is also printe for items returned in branch 2

Item E(branch 2)
overdue $4.00



current charges  $4.00
previous charges$16.00

Total charges    $20.00


 Here at LSU wepresently have 8 separate service units and this multiple
accounting for previous charges almost cause me to have a nervous breakdown. Th
erefore, we have the following procedure set up for handling bills:

All printed bills are handled by the main branch's circ staff. A copy of the
bill for individual areas is sent to the appropriate area,but all referenc
es to previous charges are "whited out".

Since we do not collect any money at the desk once a bill is produced, we then
simply post the total charges/per patron directly unto the Bursar's screen. The
 paper trail is kept, so that questions form patrons regarding all these charge
s may beanswered. Call me at 504 388-3216 if you have questions about our
procedures. I hope this helps. By the way THIS IS THE WAY NOTIS intended for it
 to work, so they do not consider this i glitch in the system...

Floris St.Amant
Head Circ Services
LSU Middleton Library
Baton Rouge, LA
70803 NOTFCS LSUVM
504 388-3216
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:56:08 -0600
From:         Barbara <baughman@UTDALLAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Frequency of running LB710 job
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              11 Nov 1992 12:37:32 -0600 from <LENGYEL@YALEVM.YCC.YALE.EDU>

We run LB710JOB once a month.  When we had less disk space, we ran it
once a week.

The trick is to run LB710JOB to pull off the records from LPCLOGF before
it runs out of space to add more records.  You'll probably just have to
set an approximate schedule and monitor the VSAM space use through LISTCAT
until you find the best pattern for your site.  Happily, I have enough
disk space to accumulate records until I need to run the reports.

Of course, I also don't back up the LPCLOGF.  If I lose the file at any
time, then it's lost forever.  Running LB710 every night like SMU would take
care of that.  We don't think OPAC statistics are so critical that we couldn't
stand to lose a few days, with the tradeoff being a lot less operator
& CPU time to maintain it.  Besides, we've never lost any records yet except
due to errors in running LB710.

Speaking of SAS programs for OPAC statistics, I've had to modify my 4.6.1
version of my SAS program extensively.  The new OPAC log record has a lot
of extra information.  If anyone needs a SAS record layout of the OPAC LOG
record, I could share it (surely there's something already in NOTISPRO).

Barbara Baughman                *********************************
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Subject: Re: "New & improved"
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:15:55 GMT
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I was very glad to see Debbie Morrow's new and improved message.  Here at the
State Historical Society we have just changed email packages and are still in
the midst of ironing out a few bugs, some minor, some not so minor.  The
unusually low traffic volume on NOTIS-L and the nonreceipt of some messages
(e.g. answers arriving to questions that I've not received) had me convinced
that we had a local problem with our NOTIS-L access.  Now that I see others are
having the same problems, I'm not so sure.  Is this situation widespread?
N.B. I appreciate that, due to the way traffic flows on the internet, sometimes
an answer is received before the question.  That is not the case here; answers
are being received to questions that _never_ arrive.

Jonathan Cooper
State Historical Society of Wisconsin
816 State Street
Madison, WI  53706
(608) 264-6522
internet: jonathan.cooper@mail.admin.wisc.edu
From: TMIS1692@VEGA.SELU.EDU (Kevin Calmes)
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Subject: LISTCAT TIMESTAMP
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:24:56 GMT
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I want to interpret the SYSTEM-TIMESTAMP for a VSAM file as listed on an IDCAMS
LISTCAT.  The VSAM manual points to the Principles of Operation manual which
states the format of the TOD clock (A 64 bit unsigned binary integer).  The
book shows the bit pattern as 0-63 (left to right).  Shouldn't that be 63-0?
I am getting very confused reading the book.  So now I have two questions.

1. What is the date/time (in English) for date stamp X'A6894B7C4CA3C000' and
   how did you calculate that?

2. What would the TOD clock show (in hex) for the date 11/05/92 15:51:01 and
   how did you calculate that?


Thanks in advance from the walking brain dead (this afternoon anyway)

Kevin - TMIS1692@selu.edu
From: HBLADM50@UCONNVM.BITNET (Joanne D. Palko)
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Date: 9 Nov 92 17:43:42 GMT
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//
Database Search DD=Rules
//rules DD   *
Search (lc or Library of congress) AND (authority tapes) AND (loading)
in NOTIS-L
index  [print all of <item#> ... replace 'index' with this for printing]
/*
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:39:29 EST
From:         "Fritzi Batchelor" <HBLADM11@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      MDAS Staff Resources

I checked NOTIS-L archives and found a query from Sue Tyner on 8/16/91
regarding MDAS personnel resources required.  Unfortunately, I didn't
find any responses.

We do not have all of the LMS modules in production and are considering
the possibility of bringing up MDAS before circ and acq.  I would appreciate
some information from you regarding your implementation experience.
Our hope is to start with 4, then expand to 8 Wilson databases.
I am assuming, perhaps incorrectly, that MDAS has a large positive effect
on your user community compared to the modest (compared to LMS modules)
effort to implement and maintain it.

1.  How difficult and/or time consuming was the MDAS implementation process,
    for the Library?  for the computing center?
2.  How much testing did you perform?
3.  What % of a LIB1-type's time does this software require on an ongoing
    basis?  What % of a TECH1-type's time?
4.  How often do you update databases and rebuild indexes?  How much time
    does this take you (for how many databases)?  Do these updates create
    scheduling problems for operations batch processing?

Please do respond, your expertise will help shape our planning.  If I'm
crazed to think that this is a modest investment of staff resources, I need
to be corrected.

Thanks.
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 09:03:00 EST
From:         "Darren.Meahl" <20676DOC@MSU.BITNET>
Subject: CHAT: That dog won't run
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> One question.  We're not a NOTIS site :-(.  Does my vote count?  I am a
> certified Son of the South.  My only objection to Bubba Calmes' remarks
> are that the description "Yankee", apart from being incomplete (viz a
> discussion over a a year ago on this list in which Nancy Pope correctly
> pointed out that the word is damnyankee), is not PC enough for the 1990s.
> And when I say PC, I don't mean "personal computer".  As one who is
> Southern born and Southern bred (and when I die, I'll be Southern dead),
> I humbly suggest the phrase "Northern American", in honor of your all's
> special status as "God's frozen people".  Proper usage woule be:
>
> I jest don't cotton to the idea of all these ecclesiastically disadvantaged
> Northern Americans (hitherto damnyankees) movin' South.
>
> I'll even go so far as to recommend calling all Yankees "EDNA's".  (As an
> acronymn.)
> --Steve

I think that Steve has got it down.  (He has obviously been to one too many
seminars on Correct Speak for the Politically Correct.  8^)   )

What a hoot!   Thanks for the laugh, Steve!


Darren "frozen and proud of it"  Meahl
MIchigan State University Libraries
East Lansing, MI  48824-1048
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:37:32 EST
From:         Suzanna Lengyel <LENGYEL@YALEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Frequency of running LB710 job

We have just turned on OPAC-logging for our OPAC-only terminals.  We have 93
such terminals throughout the Yale Library system.  We have an additional 32
dial-in ports.  I would like to know how frequently other NOTIS libraries of
comparable size run the LB710 job.

Thank you in advance.

Suzanna Lengyel.  Yale University Library Systems Office.  (203) 432-1844
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:14:20 EST
From:         Tari Keller <KELLER@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Z39.50

Z39.50 is a protocol standard for communications between computers for
for information retieval.  As long as you follow NISO standards for
your holdings formats, I wouldn't think there would be a problem.

Z39.50 is the open systems protocol that is being used by NOTIS for their
PACLink and other client-server products.  They have a marketing booklet
out on the subject that might make things clearer.  The protocol standard
was developed for the Linked Systems Project.  I think OCLC produced a
publication about this a few years ago.  I don't have it in the office
anymore, but I am sure most OCLC libraries would have a copy.

I suggest you have your Lib 1 contact NOTIS and request a copy of their
NOTIS: Z39.50 and Open Systems if they don't already have a copy to share
at your site.
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:41:47 EST
From:         Jeffrey Trimble <JTRIMBL@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      "R" in the call numbers

Here's a new twist to the call number problems in NOTIS.  We are a LC classing
library (more or less, older materials not counting).  At the time of
conversion, WVU had the "R" (from th 049 location field) (R stands for Ref-
erence), placed in subfield |b of the copy holdings and the rest of the LC
call number placed in subfields |c (parsed correctly).


A few questions have arisen.  How does one show the patrons how to search for
the reference collection call numbers beginning with an "R" ?  (Call numbers
that *normally* have R (medicine) are fine plus the usual LC call numbers are
fine.  Any suggestions or warnings?  All answers are greatly appreciated.

Either reply to me directly or to the list.

Jeffrey Trimble
Cataloging/Authorities Librarian
West Virginia University

P.S. Dewey Call numbers do not pose this problem.
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:07:00 CST
From:         "Terry Ratliff" <TRAT@KSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NOTIS notices

On Wed, 11 Nov 1992, Jon Kerckhove <JFK@WULIBS.BITNET> writes:
>
>How do other sites use NOTIS printed products?
>We are specifically interested in overdues and bill & fine notices.
>
>We currently route the NOTIS output to a file and furthur process it to print
>on 4 1/4" x 11" mailers. We print approx. 50-75 notices per day, Tues. through
>Sat.  When we brought up 5.0.1 circulation in July (from 4.6) some minor format
>changes in the NOTIS product required our program to be updated. We are
>looking again at the value of our customization.
>
>Are any other sites modifying the output of NOTIS programs?
>What type of modification is used?
>How much staff time is needed for maintaining programs, especially with new
>releases?
>Are your patrons satisfied with the format of your notices?
Our patrons are for the most part satisfied.  There are things about them
the staff does not like.
>How long is the delay from when notices are printed to when they are mailed?
> We mail the notices the same day they are printed.
>
>For those sites using "vanilla" notices, how much staff time is used in folding
>and stuffing notices?
 Student workers accomplish this in 15 -30 minutes a day normally.  Twice a
 year when faculty and graduate "fixed due dates" come due it takes most of the
 day and most of the staff (approximately 25 hours of staff time).
>Do any sites use folding machines?
>Are your patrons satisfied with the format of your notices?
>How long is the delay from when notices are printed to when they are mailed?
>
>I will summarize responses for the list.
>
>Thanks for your response
>
>Jon Kerckhove
>Washington University Libraries
>
>jfk@wulibs.bitnet
>jfk@wulibs.wustl.edu

Harley Man
From: F_WILLIAMS@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU ((LEIGH WILLIAMS))
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Subject: Thanks from Michael and Leigh for BSR
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:40:12 GMT
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Sorry for delaying this post -- it was on the top of my to-do list when I
returned from NUGM, but what with wedding preparations and problems with
NOTIS, I neglected to get to it ...

Many, many thanks to all our friends for helping us celebrate our engagement
at this year's BSR.  The wedding bears are proudly displayed in my office,
as are our coffee mugs.  Special thanks to Alan for the wonderful toast,
Bill for the champagne and glasses, and Babs and Joan for their special
contributions.  The thing I liked best, however, was the card which all of
you signed.  What a wonderful keepsake and reminder of our many friends!

This is a very special group of people; even if I didn't love NOTIS and
working in a library, all of you would make it worthwhile.  Michael and I
are so grateful that we got a chance to share our joy with all of you this
year.

Love,
Leigh
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