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From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Talk is Cheap (MPP is under the hood and doing it!)
Keywords: I'll say that talk is cheap
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:42:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <2488@blue.cis.pitt.edu> wdsst3@cislabs.pitt.edu (William D Sands) writes:
>Comrades :
>
>	Let's all do something to get this guy's account
>revoked.  He's arrogant, illiterate, and misinformed.  Flood
>his mailbox, threaten him, kidnap family members, throw lawn
>darts at him from a moving vehicle, ANYTHING is better than
>having to read this nonsense.  I will appreciate any
>suggestions.  Any nitwit that says "Miami (noted Big East
>power, by the way) will serve notice to the fact that Pitt
>will find a way to beat you" is as thick as a whale omelet.
>
>						-Bill S.
>
>Makela : You could always meet me at the Pitt-Syracuse game Wednesday
>night, if you can read the traffic signs between the
>institution and the Civic Arena....

Of course, I am against any attempt to get anyone's account revoked, 
but Cheeze Whiz! the least you could do is tell us who you are talking 
about!

Ted 

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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Need help with team losses
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:00:14 GMT

In article 887@ualr.edu, bdwiles@acs.harding.edu () writes:
>|In article <1993Jan27.183156.29163@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, raymond@harp.ecn.purdue.edu (Ray Kamin) writes:
>|>I am trying to compile a list of who beat the
>|>following teams.  Please fill in any blank
>|>you can and email me.  I will post the 
>|>completed table.
>|>
>|>Team              Record     Lost to:
>|>------------------------------------------
>|>North Carolina    (16-1)     Michigan
>|>Kentucky          (13-1)     Vanderbuilt
>|>Cincinnati        (13-1)
>|>Nevada-Las Vegas  (11-1)
>|>Pittsburgh        (13-2)
>|>Utah              (14-2)
>|>Kansas            (16-2)     Long Beach State,
>|>Indiana           (17-2)     Kentucky, Kansas
>|>Arizona           (11-2)
>|>Michigan          (15-2)     Indiana, Duke
>|>Virginia          (12-2)     Georgia Tech, UNC
>|>Duke              (13-3)     Virginia, Georgia Tech, FSU
>|>Iowa              (12-3)     OSU, Indiana, Duke 
>|>Vanderbilt        (14-3)     Florida
>|>Arkansas          (12-3)
>|>Seton Hall        (15-3)     UNC
>|>Purdue            (11-3)     Indiana, Minnesota, Michigan
>|>Kansas State      (11-3)
>|>Long Beach State  (14-3)
>|>Georgetown        (11-3)     UNLV
>|>Connecticut       ( 9-4)
>|>Missouri          (12-4)
>|>Georgia Tech      (10-4)     Charleston, Wake Forest, UNC,
>|>Florida State     (13-5)
>|>Oklahoma          (12-5)     Iowa State,
>|>UCLA              (12-5)     California,
>|>Iowa State        (11-5)     Iowa, Michigan, Florida State,
>|>
>|>Thanx,
>|>
>|>RK
>|
>|
>|Others:
>|
>|UNLV - Long Beach St.
>|Kansas - Michigan, Long Beach St.
>|Vanderbilt - Illinois, Memphis St., Florida
>|Arkansas - Vanderbilt, Auburn, ???
>|Long Beach St. - UCSB, Charleston, ???  (talk about rising to the occasion)
>|
>|-CyberFrog
>|
>|***** What's a disclaimer? *****
>|
>|
>|
>|


Georgia Tech lost to Kentucky in the Kuppenheimer Classic.

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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: Rice 67 Texas Tech 59
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:12:41 GMT

In article <1jn0dfINN5ns@shelley.u.washington.edu> crs@carson.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) writes:
>>
>>I haven't seen the box score (clarinet only carries articles on top 25
>>games and "real" conferences), but here's what I saw:
>	    ^^^^
>This "real" means "real midwestern".  I know they have a reason (namely
>that is where they have people doing the college newsgroups, but if I
>see one more box score of Illinois Wesleyan University, I'm going to puke.

Cliff, you're right.  I should have said top 25, ACC, Big10, and
anything in the state of Illinois.  Why?  They even put out a
State of Illinois College Hoops Summary.  Maybe we should make a mock
"Alaska College Hoops Summary" and email it to them ...



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From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Wake shoots 75%
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:33:14 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) wrote:

}A game summary on a news wire said that Wake shot 21-28 from the
}field in the first half.  Incredible.  No wonder the halftime score
}was 49-21.  To those who saw the game:  how did they shoot 75%????
}Were they simply sinking everything they shot, or did Tech just play
}a crummy defense and give them lots of wide open shots?

Certainly more of the latter than the former, though Childress was really
hot from outside.  The Jackets were so clueless on offense that they gave
up a bunch of quick turnovers which led to easy fast break points for
Wake.  

Cremins should have pulled the starters in the first half and played an
all-scrub team.  The starters were completely out of it.  For that
matter Kevin Cantwell should have pulled Bobby and run a few set plays
to get Travis Best open for threes and open up the Wake zone.

-- 
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        "I only think about injustice when it happens to me."
From: hwtx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: IU question
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:10:26 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Noticing all the Bloomington people, and IU fans on this group, I figured I had
a good chance of getting an answer.

My friends at IU and I were wondering what the deal was with Pat Knight. 
Is it true that he been kicked off the team?  I thought I had heard something
about that at the end of last year.  

If he had been, why is he back?

If I'm completely off my rocker, don't hesitate to inform me.  Thanks for your
time.

						Norm Schaeffer
						hwtx@cornella.cit.cornell.edu


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From: tb1153@csc.albany.edu (BEIDEL TIMOTHY)
Subject: Re: BEST NCAA COACH! Who? Let's hear it!
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
	<1993Jan25.230028.24682@fcom.cc.utah.edu>
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:03:32


   > Bruce Parkhill of Penn State does more with less than anyone else in
   > the country.  With a new arena and the Big 10/11 affiliation, he'll
   > really surprise some people in the years ahead.


>>   I'd say that Rick Majerus here at Utah does more with less than anyone.   
>>   Two years ago, 28-3 and the sweet 16.  Last year we'd have won the  
>>   NIT(Yeah, I know: big deal) had we not been jobbed in the semifinal vs.  
>>   Notre Dame.  This year, 14-2 and national ranking with misfits and J.C.  
>>   transfers.  The most important thing, however, is that Majerus goes out of>>  
>>   his way to see that everyone graduates.  He believes that basketball  
>>   always comes second to education. Colleges are supposed to be institutes  
>>   of learning rather than basketball factories, and Majerus' views on  
>>   education make him a great collegiate coach.  Thank you for enduring my  
>>   incessant rambling.
>>   -- 
>>   James Kleimeyer
>>   FFF Research Center, Dept. of Chemistry
>>   University of Utah    SLC, UT 84112
>>K   (801) 581-7168   hymie@fff.chem.utah.edu  (NeXT Mail)

Glad to see that about Majerus. Last I heard, Parkhill was 28 for 28
in seniors graduationg, although it must be said that this is a 
"sports information"-type stat that neglects the "student-athletes"
who leave school before their eligibility expires. Penn State has
had a few of those (although one who flunked out was a National
Merit Scholar, so go figure).
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From: fls@econ.duke.edu (Forrest Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Vermont Women Approach Record
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:46:39 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


	All great win streaks are relative to their competition.  Try
putting the Vanderbilt women's team (what's the feminine version of a
commodore :) ), in the SEC men's league, and they probably would not win
a game.  Put the UCLA champions in the NBA, and see how many titles they
would have won.  Even the fabled UNC women's soccer team might have trouble
competing in the World Cup.  I think only the Dream Team could go unbeaten
against ALL comers.  Vermont's streak is (I assume) against the same calibre
of team against which it has traditionally played, so it is deserving of
recognition.  It's not (I assume) like they dropped down a notch so they could
carve up their opponents (as the NBA did when it entered the Olympics . . . but
that wasn't really their fault).

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From: greg@duke.cs.unlv.edu (Greg Wohletz)
Subject: Re: UNLV Home Schedule
Reply-To: greg@duke.cs.unlv.edu (Greg Wohletz)
Organization: UNLV Computer Science and Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 18:54:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.151824.16896@muddcs.claremont.edu>, weasel@fenris.claremont.edu (weasel) writes:
) Does anyone have a copy of the UNLV home hoops schedule?

Here's what's left.

Feb 6	UCSB			 		 8:05pm
Feb 8	Long Beach State (ESPN)	 		 9:00pm
Feb 14  Louisville (ABC)			12:45pm
Feb 20	New Mexico State (Sports Channel)	 8:05pm
Feb 25  UNR (Sports Channel)			 8:05pm
Feb 27	Utah State (Sports Channel)		 8:05pm


					--Greg
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Subject: Re: The Biggest Upset of the Decade?
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:43:28 GMT

>In article <1993Jan26.162851.8128@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>>
>>How quickly they forget: Richmond over Syracuse in the 1991
>>Tournament!  15 seed over 2!
>>
>>LBSU was #25 in the polls two weeks ago, and they lead the Big West.
>>If the Tournament were to start yesterday, they'd probably get an 8-10
>>regional seed, and Kansas would have been a #1.  So, looks like
>>Richmond's upset was slightly bigger, no?

Does no one remember Chaminade's upset of then number 1 Virginia?  It may
have been more than ten years ago, though.  Even so, it was a much
bigger whopper than last night.


					Al
					alan@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom)
Subject: Re: Cherokee Parks is is WAAAAAAAAAAAY Overrated
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:41:29 GMT

In <1k4ftgINNe71@shelley.u.washington.edu> tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:

>I'm really sick and tired of hearing announcers make a big deal out of very
>average players who happen to play in big-time programs.  Cherokee Parks is
>the most blatant example.  In this guy's last four games his point totals 
>have been 8, 8, 4, and 14.  His rebounds were 8, 10, 6, and 12.  These kind
>of numbers don't tell the entire story, though.  Against FSU in what appeared
>to be his best game, he was lit up by Doug Edwards and choked two free pitches
>in the final minute that could have put the game away.  In short, Parks is 
>not that good.

>To make matters worse, there are plenty of good centers who don't get the 
>recognition.  Rich Manning of the UW comes to mind, but I'll ignore him so 

Tell me about it!!!  I'm sick of the announcers saying that he's going to be
the next star or he's filling Laettner's shoes, or he's gonna be a good one.
I don't even think he's average.  He plain out sucks.  Just looking at his
crooked head just makes me wanna croak.
Also, don't you all think that Ed O'Bannon is also very overrated?
Speaking of Duke, I think that Bobby "I think I'm gonna" Hurley is way
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: ehlerswm@hackney.ecn.purdue.edu (William Mark Ehlers)
Subject: Kansas Upset -- More upsetting to Boiler Fans
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:08:54 GMT

With Kansas losing and if all things go to form the rest of this week (ie -
no upsets).  Next week will be a bad week for Boiler fans everywhere.

That's the Indiana LOOSIERS will be ranked No. 1.

But rejoice in the fact that everybody knows that these polls mean absolutely
nothing !!!!

later,
				---Mark
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Ga. Tech beats UVA 75-71
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:39:13 GMT

So, Tech recovers from the three game slump.  Newbill was benched and Hill started.
It apparently lit a fire under him.  Nothing spectacular offensively, but he played well.  He was 3-4 shooting for a total of 8 points.  No other specifics
available yet.  

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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Rencher back
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:29:33 GMT

According to a Clarinet UPI article tonight, Tom Penders has
reinstated Terrence Rencher to the Texas basketball team.
It is not known if he will play Saturday in the game at Rice.

In other parts of the country (clarinet subscribers can guess
where), Eureka College beat the Moody Bible Institute 83-37,
Lincoln College beat Parkland 66-64, and Trinity Christian
beat Olivet Nazarene 83-80 :) :)

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From: mooredb@ucunix.san.uc.edu (David Brian Moore)
Subject: UC Beats UAB
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 05:09:20 GMT

I will TRY to post a more complete summary tomorrow. UC won the ugliest
game I'm EVER seen since the UC-Kentucky "Stall Ball" game about`10
years ago. It was 15-11 UAB at the half. UC did not score a field goal
until 10 MINUTES INTO THE GAME MAKING IN 4-3. Anyway, UC won on a 
FREAK 3pt basket with no time left 38-36. UAB slowed it down all
night taking UC out of their offense. It was ugly! but a  win is a 
win. Please ignore my best team in ohio .sig, after tonights game
I don't know!!!! (They are still better than OSwho though).


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From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Rules question
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:42:31 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Isn't there a deadball situation if the net gets hung up on the rim after 
a made shot.  Whenevern I've seen this happen, the refs always stop play and
throw the ball up and knock the net loose from the rim.  For obvious reasons,
I think its downright hilarious when this happens so as to prevent Duke from
running a fast break and they go up against a set defense.
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From: suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick.Suffridge)
Subject: Re: All-time Jayhawks -- need more votes!
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:05:48 GMT

haverty@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:
: 
: I don't remember all the players, but I think the best team we have
: ever had was the 1986 team.... with Calvin Thompson, Ron Kellog, Greg
: Dreiling, Cedrick Hunter... I don't recall if Mark Turgon was on the
: team then, but that team should have won the final four that year, but
: you know who ousted them out.  :)  (In case you don't know... ;)  it
: was Duke)  
: 
: I can still recall listening to some of those games for the final four
: during 1986... the sweet sixteen games that the Hawks played in.
: Danny Manning was playing for the Lawrence Lions... along with Chris
: Piper... for the State Championchip game.  Those were the good old
: days.  :)  But if the Hawks keep playing the way the do in the second
: half, we will have some more of those good old days.  (grin)  Later.
: 

Danny Manning was not in high school in 1986, he was a sophomore on the KU
team that went to the Final 4.  He, along with the four players you 
mentioned, were the starters on that team.

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From: morgan@engr.uky.edu (Wes Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: One two punch
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:28:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: ms.C1GwBK.GI7
Organization: University of Kentucky Engineering Computing Center

kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado (Tim Chandler)) wrote:
>
>Hmmmm, maybe they should call it the UNC curse, not the Duke curse. After all,
>Duke doesn't make the schedules. And really folx, UNC is the best team in the
>conference without a doubt, so any team's loss to them isn't a big shocker.
>

Perhaps we should call it "The Curse of the Bonehead Administrators Who
Schedule Duke and UNC Sequentially" .......... seriously, does the league
office draw up this schedule, or are the member schools that individually
stupid?

--Wes

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From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: The (updated) Saga of Bobby Knight
Organization: Blue Riddle Productions
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:54:46 GMT

In article <C16I5p.D5p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> William L. Myers writes:
>Henson and Bob got along fine during Lou's early years in the league.
>Lou says the first 12 times they went head-to-head for recruits, there
>was no animosity.  (Bob landed all 12).  Lou got #13 (Lowell Hamilton)
>and Bob cried foul, turning Henson in.  The Big Ten office investigated
>Knight's complaints and found them groundless.  But their relationship
>has been strained at times since.  

I thought the real rivalry started when Knight practically stole Eric
Anderson from under Henson's haircut.  Could somebody elaborate on what
the deal was with recruiting Hamilton (where is he these days, anyway)?

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From: bobf@dbrus.Unify.Com (Bob Feldcher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: National POTY
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:11:38 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <2031@lfpd1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> kdougan@lfpd1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Kelly Dougan) writes:
>Here's another good way to start a flame war.  I know it's only a little over
>half way thru the season, but who's everyone's pick for national player of the
>year?
>
>
>Mr. Kelly Dougan

The best player in the country ----- Chris (Mayce) Webber
From: plaul@engr.LaTech.edu (Pummy Laul)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Comments on KU-Long Beach State game
Date: 26 Jan 1993 15:56:37 GMT
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
NNTP-Posting-Host: pulsar.engr.latech.edu
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maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu wrote:
: Having just set through the disastrous KU-Long Beach State game,


: Yes, KU played like they all had lead weights in their pants (except Hancock
: and Woodberry).  But the game would have not been quite so lopsided, I'm sure,
: if the officiating had been decent.  Long Beach repeatedly traveled with the
: ball, but it was not called.  They lost the ball backcourt, it was not called. 
: They fouled KU players over and over again and it was not called.  Even when KU
: TRIED to foul to stop the clock they almost had to deck the Long Beach State
: player to get the foul called.


: HOWEVER, when the officiating is so obviously lopsided,

: IT MAKES ME WANT TO SCREAM!!!!!!!!

: Congrats to the 49ers, they played a tough game and deserved the win.
: But it would have been nice if they could have won it under decent officiating.


KU has always had the problem of underestimating unknown teams.
UTEP in 92, UCLA in 1990, etc...

KU also had trouble against teams like Jackson State & Tenn Tech(?) in the 
Rainbow Classic.

Consider this to be a good loss.  I would rather KU lose to an unranked 
oponent now rather than in the NCAA tournament when its too late.

This 64-49 drubbing of KU can be considered to be a good humbling experience
for the team and the fans.  I dont expect the KU players to forget this
loss for the rest of the year and hopefully we will not be beaten by an
unknown in the NCAA's.

Again congrats to Long Beach for beating ( sorry drubbing ) KU at home.


Go Jayhawks






    
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