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From: vargish@sura.net (Nick Vargish)
Subject: Re: Sanity
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:57:10 GMT

Steven Bellovin wrote:

> I have heard of how a couple of Psych Grad students decided to see how long
> it would take a mental hospital to determine that they were not insane, once
> they were committed. To this end, they fake the symptoms of schizophrenia
> and are commited. Once in, they act perfectly normal. The institution does
> not deem them sane. They finally get out 6 monthes later, after several
> friends come forward to tell the hospital that it was an experiment.

Just to add some non-facts to this thread, the version I heard
included the embellishment that the hospital staff commented on the
"faux inmates" as "exhibiting compulsive note-taking behavior."

Nick

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From: dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong)
Subject: Re: Calling Dr. Howard, Dr. Fine, Dr. Howard
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 02:24:05 GMT

smith@panther.adelphi.edu (Jim Smith) writes:

>In article <3466@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:

>>In article <1992Jul21.050353.16352@walter.cray.com>, matt@cray.com (Matthew Marchese) writes:

>>> I came across a piece titled, "Stooge's Wives". In it one of Curly's wives
>>> is portrayed in an interview as claiming that Curly's trademark cry of,
>>> "WooWoo" originated during the sex-act as the aforementioned Stooge
>>> acheived orgasm. 

>>This sure does make me wonder what "Moe! Larry! The Cheeze" means.

>>Terry "Pie Fight!" Wood
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>Oh yeah!  And wasn't it Curly who said: "If at first you don't succeed, 
>keep on suckin' 'til you do suck seed."  Woo-Woo indeed.

Yes.... but during a smooch, Larry stepped out of character and said,
"This I like... and I get paid for it, too!" (It's the one where they
were all about to jump off a building)

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From: mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: Organ muggers
Organization: Salivation Army
Date: 22 JUL 92 13:08:59    


In article <1992Jul21.211605.20223@ctp.com>, 
  dvand@ctp.com (Derek Vandivere) writes...

>Just to corroborate, I recall a cover story in _The Economist_ while flying
>the USAir shuttle a few months ago (yes, some Merkins read _The Economist_)
>which described the same problem.  Evidently, it's mostly poor 3rd worlder
>types who get cut.

 I read about third worlders selling the odd kidney, but not about any who have
 them involuntarily ripped out.  There's a world of difference.

 - snopes

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From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: "Green Death" Beer
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:09:07 GMT

In article <machman.712541944@milton> machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman) writes:
>
>in the Pacific Northwest, Rainier Ale is called "Green Death" since it
>comes in green bottles and cans, and provides significantly more of a
>kick than your average corn-n-rice American pilsener beer.  i'm a beer
>snob, but i like a nice Rainier Ale every so often, mostly for its guzzling
>properties.  
>
Of course, older netters will remember that this thread _started_ by
referring to this immensely quaffable beverage.  I like a nice Rainier
every so often myself.

Phil "Beware of beer in green cans" Gustafson
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From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: A Man, A Woman, A Bed, and Handcuffs (was Anyone heard this one?)
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:59:35 GMT

In article <BryFt0.Mrr@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
>
>The suspense comes when a hungry mongrel walks in, eats her husband,
>and starts sniffing hungrily at _her_.  (I know time and digestion
>and starvation make this chronoligically incredible, but that's
>what the book says.)

Reminds me of the Nick Lowe-Dave Edmunds song about a movie actress named
"poor Marie".  ("She was a winner, but she became the doggie's dinner")

cj "you've got to be cruel to be kind" l
From: dlyons@necis.UUCP (Dave Lyons)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: generic drugs
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:56:30 GMT
Organization: NEC Information Systems, Acton, MA

In article <3336102@harvee.billerica.ma.us>, scm@harvee.billerica.ma.us (S. Mudgett aka little gator) wrote:
> 
>> > over the counter) and 600 mg ibuprofen (1 tablet several times a day>) The
>> > 600 mg ibuprofen requires a prescription ... 200 mg ibuprofen is available
>> > over the counter (Advil, Motrin, and lots of generic brands). Considering
> 
> menstrual cramps.  i found it cheaper and easier to just take 4 at a time of
> otc advil.  plus, if the pain was minor i could take less without splitting
> pills.(regardless of pill size, the reccomended maximum is 2400 mg per day).
> 800 mg every 8 hours works less well than 400 mg every 4 hours.

I see two problems right away.  One, the additives that make the pill
"a pill" instead of just a bit of powder will be doubled (tripled,
quadrupled, etc) and that may affect how the medication works.  I have
found that my stomach gives me much less grief with the 800mg
prescription stuff than 2 or 3 otc pills.  Two, from what I've read,
ibuprofin works on an average blood level which may take some time to
reach (hours or even days rather than minutes).  If all you're taking
it for is the pain relief, taking extra of the otc version may be OK
but if you're taking it for the anti-inflammatory properties such as I
do (or what little gator needed it for) several otc pills may not
provide the proper levels over a greater period of time.  I can
understand why the doc may have been displeased with your
substitution.  If he's basing his treatment of your problem on certain
blood levels of a drug, altering those blood levels to save a few
dollars might not be a good idea.  If you already know what's wrong
and how to treat yourself as well as your doctor will, save yourself
even more money.  Don't go.
                                      -- Dave --
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From: jfreter@triton.unm.edu (The Myth)
Subject: Re: Revenge of the Choking Doberman
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 00:19:07 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

>In article <6074@otc.otca.oz> wayner@otc.otca.oz.au (Wayne Robinson) writes:
>
>>The type of dog seems to be a regional variation. Every account I have heard
>>comming from Australia involves a Rotweiler. These dogs have been involved
>>in quite a few attacks on kids,in recent years and so is
>>"more believable" to Australians than a German Shepherd. Does anyone know
>>what the most popular dogs are in different areas for this story? Perhaps
>>it really is dobermans (dobermen?) doing the amputation and they are 
>>feindishly framing the rotweillers...
>

Well, when I first heard this, it was a Jackalope who'd said "that would
be in the butt, Bob" while driving on the right after getting the Cookie
recipe from Craig Shergold.


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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Sanity
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:56:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.154347.28116@PA.dec.com> mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>
>In article <BrtHI4.7z8@cs.psu.edu>, 
>  antunes@astro.psu.edu (Sandy Antunes) writes...
>
>>Given that all it takes is a doctor's signature to complete the "hearing",
>>and it is therefore a judgement call by one person as to whether you are a 
>>danger, I'd say it's still too easy to get locked up.
>
> That's not so.  The patient has a right to demand a more rigorous hearing
> before a board, rather than one whose outcome is decided by a single doctor.

I'd imagine this varies widely from state to state.  The complaints I
hear are that the system errs on the side of letting too many dangerous
people go -- on the other hand, I understand that Kate Millett has written
a first-hand book to the contrary.
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From: Robyn.C.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Robyn C. Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: A non-UL, but stupid, question
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:04:27 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

How long do posters stay posted in this newsgroup?  In other words, how
long can I not read a.f.u before I miss a thread, or significant
portion thereof, entirely?

Robyn "Yes, I've been playinf a.f.u hooky" Reed
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From: ccuppern@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Cyndi Cuppernell)
Subject: Re: UL Sighted
Organization: UIUC Department of Psychology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:56:35 GMT
Keywords: n

perry@Unify.Com (Perry Clarke) writes:

>More years ago than I care to contemplate, when I worked at
Motorola, we
>were given badges to celebrate the release of the new 68030
microprocessor
>(isn't marketing a sad profession?) which, besides the main
message about
>the 030, had a phrase written in Japanese characters.  I managed
to start
>a rumor that cropped up in all sorts of odd corners of the company
that
>alleged that the Japanese words were: "Intel Sucks".  I believe
that
>the message was actually a very worthy one concerning Quality
(with a
>capital Q) but most people prefered my translation.


This reminds me of something my dad did.  He worked as the project
engineer for a construction company.  He was working on some large
building in Chicago and having all kinds of trouble with the phone
company.  He had tons of stickers made up which all said "Ma Bell
is senile."  I believe he put them up all over the building.  

Cyndi
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From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Subject: Re: Mis-applied physics in advertising
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:33:16 GMT

ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder) writes:
>In article <sysmatt.711809308@aix3090b.uky.edu> sysmatt@aix3090b.uky.edu (James M. Simpson) writes:
>>I've often wondered about the difference between "prescription" strength and
>>over-the-counter versions of the same drug. For example, after a recent
>> [etc]

>Which reminds me of the ads that say "4 out of 5 doctors recommend 
>Brand X..." I've always wondered about that 5th doctor. Why is s/he 
>different?

Something to remember: the guy who got D's through med school is still
a doctor.  Could be they found four D-level doctors and one that
really knew his (her) stuff.

jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Anyone heard this one? New UL?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:51:29 GMT

fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
: In <1992Jul22.233225.10021@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
: 
: >bill "Don't snake up on my or I will pit my viper on you" Nelson
: 
: What about the bit about the dip-shit usenet user who quotes 100 lines of
: included text only to stick a three line reply after it?
: 
: I see that one everywhere.

Even more common is the user who posts an unnecessary gratuitous insult.
These people are even worse than the aforementioned dip-shit users who
quote unnecessary material.

Bill "Eat my shorts" Nelson 
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From: grady@btr.BTR.COM (Grady Ward  grady@btr.com)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.books,rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Mandatory negatives (was Re: Agnostics and Athiests)
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:03:21 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

To perhaps draw this thread back to the domain of
books, a good "vaccinator" to the more popular
arguments heard in support or denial of atheism
can be found in the Encylopedia of Philosophy
(ed. Edwards, Macmillan) under the category
"Atheism."

To many people, asking "Do you believe in God?"
is roughly equivalent of "Do you believe in Xdsfhjd?"

But even the opposing sides can eventually agree
that they are both talking about non-sense experience.

What breaks the symmetry between "believing in God"
versus "not believing in God," is that contrary to
both sides needing equal bodies of evidence to support
their claim, the side making the *assertion* needs to
support it while the denier of that assertion need
only laugh.


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From: jcopelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James c Copeland)
Subject: Re: Mandatory negatives (was Re: Agnostics and Athiests)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:35:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.174851.27633@cas.org> sdr57@cas.org () writes:
>In article <7540@public.BTR.COM> grady@btr.BTR.COM (Grady Ward  grady@btr.com) writes:
>>
>>What breaks the symmetry between "believing in God"
>>versus "not believing in God," is that contrary to
>>both sides needing equal bodies of evidence to support
>>their claim, the side making the *assertion* needs to
>>support it while the denier of that assertion need
>>only laugh.
>>
>>
>>--
>Er...laughing disproves an assertion?
>
>Ha, Ha, Ha.
>
>(In the context of this thread, I would point out that atheism
>requires at least as much faith as any theism - the atheist
>must believe in the *nonexistence* of a deity - and that any
>religion which argues for the existence of free will in choosing
>to believe - accept good or embrace evil - however you put it -
>will tell you that the existence of the deity can *not* be independently
>demonstrated, since that would remove freedom from that choice. You
>either have faith or you don't. In other words, if your *assertion* is
>that God does *not* exist, where is your proof? And will you consider
>it an adequate and complete disproof of that assertion if I laugh at
>you for making it?)


I don't know how many times I have been asked to prove a negative, and
explained that it is a logical impossibility. Atheism is opposed to faith,
not requiring it.

The correct terminology is that there is NO REASON to believe in god,
Not that we believe god does not exist.  Just like there is no reason to 
believe that there are invisible martians living on Mars, (we certainly
have not proved that they don't exist) or that Santa Claus exists. All
claims of god's existence (and of the supernatural for that matter) are 
found lacking and insufficient. The only logical conclusion is that god
does not exist. Agnostics are being unnaturally and unreasonably skeptical
when they withold making a decision on this question.

The claim of faith changes the question to what role should faith play
in one's life. Atheists argue that (based on an examination of faith's
role in your every-day life)faith should not play a role in the life
of a REASONABLE person.

My other theory is that god does really exist,but that he/she wants to remain
hidden, and provides us Atheists with all of the perfect arguements to
show that belief that god exists is unreasonable.

jc
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From: scm@harvee.UUCP (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Subject: chow mein sandwich
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:13:08 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18

seen in the boston glob's "confidential chat" section july 22, 1992:

someone is researching the origin of the "chow mein sandwich", which is
allegedly popular in new england.  i've never heard of it before(so it
must not be true).  has anyone else?

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Subject: Re: Left - Right
From: hugh@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 05:17:21 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <RGM.92Jul29022952@cory.Berkeley.EDU> rgm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Rob Menke) writes:
>Sorry to inject a UL into this newsgroup, but:
>
>I've heard that if you get lost in a situation where it is impossible
>to determine a reference point for direction (such as a winter
>white-out or a desert), a person will go in circles because their
>dominant foot will move just a little bit farther than the other each
>step, so if you ever find yourself in such a situation, pretend your
>dominant foot is injured and limp.

... and walk in circles in the opposite direction.  Great.

You should probably alternate limps.  Igor (Eeegor!) used an alternating
hump to good effect in "Young Frankenstein", presumably to stop limping
in circles (a traight which, I am told, movie directors particulary dislike).

>This advisory, BTW, was relayed to me after my car spun out in the
>middle of nowhere.

Let me guess, your dominant foot happens to be your right foot, it happens
to be extremely dominant, and it happened to be on the accelerator pedal?
That'll get you going round in circles.

Hugh "it's not the Coriolis effect, down here we're all left footed" Grierson

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From: sramming@athena.mit.edu (Scott '~ibo' Ramming)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.politics.kibo
Subject: Re: a question...
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:11:43 GMT
Organization: Clothing Requires Advertising

In article <BroDHK.5tn@world.std.com> kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) writes:

>BTW, would people prefer the t-shirts to have pockets or be pocketless?
>(Pocket ones would have the picture silkscreened on the back, and maybe
>also on the pocket.)

I think the pocket T sounds neat, so people could see your picture 
while they stare at my ass. (Why do they always do that when I'm on
the T?!?) Besides, don't pocketless T's cost more?

~ibo


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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: College Pranks (Was Re: Vacation Time!)
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:24:59 GMT
Keywords: Ditch Day, vanishing room

In <4098@news.duke.edu> klg@panda.mc.duke.edu (Kim Greer -- rjj) writes:

  - Americans (around the time of WWII, for some reason) proudly show off
	their very small drill bit as example of fine craftsmanship
  - send aforementioned drill bit to German engineers
  - Germans send drill bit back with a hole drilled through long axis of bit

The way I heard it, they sent back a whole case of small bits,
marked to say LARGE.
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From: stirling@ozrout.uucp (Stirling Westrup)
Subject: Re: Blue Room
Organization: Andre P. Ozrout
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:39:06 GMT

M Maxwell writes:
>ken@uk.ac.glasgow.tcrystal (Kenneth Shankland) writes:
>>
>>I got to thinking that if (as alleged) it does contain
>>specimens of alien lifeforms recovered by the Government,
>>perhaps it holds some other well known 'missing' items.
>>Such as Bob Crane's legendary massive stash of hard-core ?
>>
>Just under a year ago (i think), a lot of people on alt.conspiracy put
>together a list of missing/mythical items that could be found in the
>proverbial blue room.  I can't give you a name right now, but you might try
>posting there and asking nicely.

Okay, I admit it, it was I who started the Warehouse list.  The next
publication of the list has been delayed more times that I want to think
of.  The press of work, and such has pretty much made it impossible.  I do
still work on it in my spare time, but I can't say when the next version
will be out.  (The main problem has been collating, categorizing and
editing the several megabytes worth of 1-line entries I recieved for the
contents of the warehouse.)

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