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>/ hpcuhe:comp.sys.hp / stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel) / 11:57 am  Aug 26, 1992 /
>Also, Im finding that the linker is issuing the error
>
>
>ld: R_DATA_ONE_SYMBOL fixup in file ds_common.o for code unsat symbol "stupid_test" - use P' fixup
>
>where stupid_test is the first function in the first .o file that I pass
>to the linker with a -b option (trying to build a shared-lib).
>
>Has anyone seen the R_DATA_ONE_SYMBOL before, or know what at P' fixup
>is?  It looks like a nice loader diagnostic.
>----------

I agree, the loader/linker is not always the kindest of beasts when it 
wants to beller. Actually, it is a very detailed message but does not
map linker talk to english very well. You need to use the P' 
selector when taking the address of a code symbol in assembly.

	.ALIGN  8
	.WORD   P'some_symbol

Or, if this came from c code, you need to use +z/+Z when you compile. 

jim shoe




From: chitgo@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Sunil Chitgopekar)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:26:21 GMT
Subject: Re: panic: E_HW_NOT_TXON
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp


Please contact HP for a patch to fix this problem.  

Sunil Chitgopkekar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: okuyama@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Darin Okuyama YR)
Subject: Third party disk drives on HP-UX
Summary: Third party disk dirves on Hp-UX.
Keywords: HP-UX disk drive 3rd third party
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 19:15:11 GMT

Has anyone successfully installed a thrid-party SCSI disk
dirve on a Snake (HP 9000/700)?  If you have, then:

  (1) Was it relatively straightforward?
  (2) What problems did you encounter?
  (3) What advice can you give the Net?

Darin Okuyama
NASA Ames Research Center

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: martin@innovus.com (Martin Renters)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 14:00:54 GMT
Organization: Innovus Inc.
Subject: Wren7 drives on HP9000/817??
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Innovus Inc.
Keywords: 

We've recently acquired a Wren 7 disk (1.2G Seagate ST41200N/IMPRIMIS 94601-15)
drive and it works wonderfully on the 300s and 700s, but the 817 we
have doesn't want to write to it (well, at least not *most* of the time).

I have managed to mediainit it (no problems) and fsck a filesystem created
on a 720, but when I try to newfs it on the 817 I get:

	write error: 1013774
	wtfs: Invalid Argument

My /etc/disktab has the following entry added to it:

WREN7:\
        :ty=winchester:ns#35:nt#15:nc#1931:rm#3600:\
        :s0#1013775:b0#8192:f0#1024:\
        :s1#1013775:b1#8192:f1#1024:\
        :s2#1013775:b2#8192:f2#1024:\
        :s3#1013775:b3#8192:f3#1024:\
        :s4#1013775:b4#8192:f4#1024:\
        :s5#1013775:b5#8192:f5#1024:\
        :s6#1013775:b6#8192:f6#1024:\
        :s7#1013775:b7#8192:f7#1024:\
        :s8#1013775:b8#8192:f8#1024:\
        :s9#1013775:b9#8192:f9#1024:\
        :s10#1013775:b10#8192:f10#1024:\
        :s11#1013775:b11#8192:f11#1024:\
        :s12#1013775:b12#8192:f12#1024:\
        :s13#1013775:b13#8192:f13#1024:\
        :s14#1013775:b14#8192:f14#1024:\
        :s15#1013775:b15#8192:f15#1024:

Specifying only the s2 parition produces the same result.

The following entry works on the 720:

WREN7:\
	: 1.2G drive:ns#35:nt#15:nc#1931:\
	:s0#1013775:b0#8192:f0#1024:\
	:se#512:rm#3600:


Any ideas?


Martin Renters				martin@innovus.com
Innovus Inc.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: andy@ie.utoronto.ca (Andy Sun)
Subject: trouble with 9000/720 console login w/ home dir. on an NFS partition
Summary: console login fails on an 9000/720 if home dir. is on an NFS partition
Organization: University of Toronto, Department of Industrial Engineering
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 19:39:00 GMT

Hi Everyone,

I have experienced this weird problem with our HP 9000/720 that I can neither
explain nor solve:

We have a 9000/720 which is mounting a shared partition, via NFS, from
another 720. The problem is all users who have home directories on this
NFS partition cannot login to HP VUE, neither from console nor from a 700/RX
X terminal. However, the No-Window mode login, as well as rlogin and telnet,
all work fine. Accounts which are on the local disk do not have this problem.

I tried starting X11R4 instead of HP VUE and see if it works. Aftering
logging on console using no-window login, I fired up x11start. The root
window came up okay, and I could open xclock, etc., but when I tried to 
open a new window, an hpterm started up with a blank window, stayed there
for 2 seconds, and exited automatically.

I traced the processes using lastcomm and found that with HP VUE, after
it passed vuegreet, it tried to execute something using csh and then
it will run Xreset and terminate the session automatically.

Does anyone know what is wrong? It looked like during the startup of VUE,
some commands need to be executed by root, but root on the local machine
doesn't have superuser access on an NFS partition and therefore it's failing.
Any help or comment will be greatly appreciated.

Andy
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ram@uunet!dptechno (Ram Natarajan)
Subject: Need HP-GL to HP-PCL conversion utility
Organization: D. P. Technology Corp.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 22:01:21 GMT

I tried posting a similar request earlier, but it does not seem to have made
it to the outside world. Would somebody be kind enough to point me to
a conversion utility from HP-GL to HP-PCL (for Deskjet 500 and 500C). I know
that one exists  somewhere for B&W (called hpgl2pcl), but does one exist
for the color device? I would prefer to get the source code, if possible or
binaries for HP700.
Thanks for your time,

Ram

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jah@cc.tut.fi (Ahonen Jari)
Subject: Good PD/SW comm program for HP-UX ?
Keywords: X/Y/Zmodem, HP-UX, communications
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:42:50 GMT


Does anybody know a good PD/SW communications program for HP-UX ?
I've tried Pcomm and I like it BUT I can't send files with it.
Receiving files works OK (Ymodem protocol) but somehow sending doesn't.

  Is there some tricks that must be done on a mux port before calling out
and sending files is possible?
  The system is HP9000m817s and modem is connected to a multiplexer port.
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From: bruce@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Bruce Sams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HPView Icon Labels: Meaningful text?
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:33:49 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA



Well, here goes with another silly question about HPView.  We connect to
other machines very often via remsh or rlogin, and often the screens get
crowded with windows.  When these windows are iconified, they have 
icon labels like "xterm" or "rlogin".  Is it possible to make the label,
when iconified, into a meaningful string?  I have a nifty way of making the
xwindows title bar show "HOST:currentdirectory", and would like to have
that remain as the icon label.  I tried switching on "activelabel" in the
Vuewm*iconDecoration option, and also starting xterm with a -T $HOST call,
but all to no avail.  I read in the manual that the label get its string from
the clients WM_ICON_NAME value.  So what is WM_ICON_NAME anyway, and
how do I get at it?  Is it possible to do this? To make the icon labels
reflect precisely where the window the represent is pointing?


Many thanks,

Bruce Sams.
From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Mark Bixby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.unix.programmer
Subject: Sockets, timeouts, and HPUX
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:47:28 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

I'm running HPUX 8.02 on a 9000/817.  I'm writing a sockets client that talks to
a remote server machine.  If the server machine is down, the client's
connect(2) call takes 75 seconds to time out.  Is there any way to change this
timeout duration, especially to reduce it to something more reasonable like
15 seconds?

HP's "Berkeley IPC Programmer's Guide" (p/n 98194-60525) lists SO_SNDTIMEO and
SO_RCVTIMEO timeout value options for setsockopt(2), but says "At present, this
option is not used.  It is supported in anticipation of future use".  Sure
enough, setting these options before connect(2) has no effect.

So is it possible to change the timeouts for connect(2), send(2), and recv(2),
or do I just have to live with HP's excessive defaults?
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From: manu@hpsrv.biotoul.fr (Emmanuel Courcelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: test...
Date: 31 Aug 92 12:19:40 GMT
Reply-To: manu@ibcg.biotoul.fr
Organization: Institut de Biologie et Genetique Cellulaire (IBCG/CNRS, Toulouse)

testing

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From: sean+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sean McLinden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: scftosnf or some related utility
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:40:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oebIinC00WBL86V2Yi
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I am almost sure that I have seen the answer to this before, but I cannot
seem to remember where. We are installing the X11R5 distribution with the
server contributions but I want to be able to use the fonts distributed
with HP's X11R4 (scf format), especially for VUE. Do aliases exist or is
there a routine for doing this in R5?

Thanks.

Sean McLinden
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: cyrus@convex.com (Tait Cyrus)
Subject: Promiscuous mode
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:09:41 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Colorado Springs, CO., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I have an HP 9000/730 available to me and I was wondering if HP-UX (A.08.07)
allowed the placing of its network controllers (Ethernet, FDDI, etc)
into promiscuous mode like can be done under SunOS and Ultrix.  I have a need
for looking at raw network packets and would prefer it if I didn't have to
obtain access to a Sniffer.  Any pointers would be greately appreciated.

Thanks in advance

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Convex Computer Corporation     cyrus@convex.com
2075 Research Parkway Suite B   719-594-4900 ext 41
Colorado Springs, CO 80920
From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Modems and RS-232 on HP9000/720
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:09:37 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands

> For Example:
> 	stty -parenb ixon < /dev/ttyd00
> causes the TR light to come on, but my prompt does not come back unless I hit
> ^C.

  stty tries to open(2) /dev/ttyd00. What is needed for that open to
succeed is described in modem(7) and is different for a simple mode and
a CCITT mode device file.

Frank Slootweg, HP, Dutch Customer Response Center.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: ggordon@agsm.ucla.edu (Glen Gordon)
Subject: Looking for alternate telnetd for HP9000/s855 under 7.0
Summary: Seeking updated telnetd that compiles under 7.0
Keywords: telnetd, HPUX 7.0, option negotiation
Date: 30 Aug 92 13:11:22 PDT

The telnetd that came with HPUX 7.0 has some problems with option negotiation 
which cause the latest version of NCSA telnet for the MAC to
negotiate echoing improperly: i.e. neither host or client echos.  

Has anyone gotten telnetd sources to compile an function properly
under HPUX?  Any help would be most appreciated.

--Glen

P.S.  I got the telnet.91.03  sources compiled, but telnetd doesn't
work properly.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
From: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: Sun Vs. HP system administration
Originator: mahesh@amnese.eng.uab.edu
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:41:02 GMT

We will be getting a HP 705 (or 710) this week. I have good
experience with SunSparcs and Solbournes. I wanted to know
how different is HP system administration when compared
to Sun. Some of you gurus may find my questions too stupid,
but that is ok !!!

* Can I set up my HP as a client of Solbourne (yellow pages) ?
  I think the answer is YES but how hard is it to get this
  setup working.

* Can I access the disk space of my solbourne from a HP ?
  (automounting). If so, how tough is it ?

* Can I use the executables compiled on non-HP machines
  on my HP (like tcsh, mush, rn ) ? dumb question uh ?

* Should I get some books for HP administration ? Are there
  any books available ? I have books for Sun administration.

* which are the good newsgroups on Usenet for HP ?

* Any other info about HP systems is welcome.

Please respond by email.

thanks


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From: gdh@calmasd.Prime.COM (Gerald Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP-UX 9.0
Keywords: OSF
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:40:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: calmasd.4966
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

>[...]  A few more years should first be spent in
>development.   I think that HP is correct in not pushing OSF before
>it is ready. [...]

I believe that OSF has announced that they are getting out of the OS
business and that 1.1 (which is just a "bug fix" release of 1.0, which
was based on AIX and is not a mach kernel) will be the last OS from OSF.
This was written up in recent (July?) issues of both UNIX World and
UNIX Review.  The current issue of one of these (sorry I get them confused)
has a quote from someone at HP to the effect that HP has abandoned any
plans for adopting OSF.

>Didn't HP actually ship a few OSF kernels to customers?  They seemed
>to have pulled it back into HP development right quick :-)

I don't know if OSF 1.0 was shipped by HP but OSF 1.0 had big problems.

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From: ajs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Alan Silverstein)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:38:18 GMT
Subject: Re: Sam internal error
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> sam internal error -5025

This is some sort of a range error in the kernel configuration code,
possibly due to an unusual/broken dfile.

You might try entering Kernel Configuration on the same system to see if
you get a more meaningful message.

The next release of SAM has much better global error handling, so you
should see the appropriate text for any error when it occurs at any
point in any module.  (Sometimes the appropriate text is pretty vague,
of course, for out-of-context or unexpected errors.)
From: shoe@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Jim Schumacher)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 03:01:02 GMT
Subject: Re: What is the 7xx series compatible with ?
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

/ hpcuhe:comp.sys.hp / jhd@irfu.se (Jan D.) /  3:59 pm  Aug 26, 1992 /


>You can't see if an archive library is PA1.1 or 1.0 with file, at least
>not the file I got on 8.07:

>Script started on Thu Aug 27 00:52:38 1992
>jhd@kernow> cat > foo.c
>foo() {}
>^D
>jhd@kernow> make foo.o
>	cc -O -c foo.c
>jhd@kernow> ar cvr libfoo.a foo.o
>a - foo.o
>jhd@kernow> file foo.o libfoo.a
>foo.o:		PA-RISC1.1 relocatable object
>libfoo.a:	archive file -s800 relocatable library
>jhd@kernow> ^D
>
>script done on Thu Aug 27 00:53:29 1992
>
>BTW, what's your sample-of-two test?
>
>	Jan D.
>----------

Well, there is a (unsupported) tool available in the contrib fileset:

hpcll32 297 $ ar cvr libfoo.a foo.o it.o
r - foo.o
a - it.o
hpcll32 298 $ /usr/contrib/bin/odump -head libfoo.a | egrep "Header|RISC"
Header record for : libfoo.a[foo.o]
system id:        0210 (PA-RISC 1.1)    magic number:   0106
Header record for : libfoo.a[it.o]
system id:        0210 (PA-RISC 1.1)    magic number:   0106

Granted, you may have to play with the output to get a nice report, but
odump does look at each object of an archive in turn. 

jim shoe
From: ajs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Alan Silverstein)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:10:32 GMT
Subject: Re: Editorial comment on BASIC?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> I was amused that RMBUX appeared as a separate partition rather than
> being included in the PROG-LANGUAGES partition.  Is this mere
> happenstance or an indictment of BASIC?

Probably happenstance.  Each fileset on update media includes a data
block in an INDEX file.  This data includes the partition name (and
description).  The packagers of RMBUX apparently used that partition
name instead of PROG-LANGUAGES, for whatever reason.  The point is that
there is no central list of partitions and their filesets, rather, each
fileset, from any supplier, names the partition of which it is a member.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio)
Subject: Re: cpp looking where it shouldn't 
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:21:45 GMT

mickan@rossinc.com (Michael J. Andrew) writes:

> I'm new to HP and this group.  I'm also sure this must have been asked
> before, but no luck on a search of our archived articles.
> 
> #if VMS
> #module vmsname
> #else
> #define NOTVMS
> #fi
> 
> The HP c89 compiler barfs on the "unknown" #module statement.
> 
> We're coming from a varied DEC environment, VMS and Ultrix.  The MIPS
> compilers don't get upset about this.
> 
> I don't know what ANSI has to say, but it seems to me that any complaints
> by the preprocessor in the "false" part of an #if or #ifdef is
> very antisocial.

It's worse than you think.  ANSI not only says the translator must
check directives in compiled-out blocks, but ANSI says it must
tokenize the text in compiled-out blocks.  So this should not compile
using an ANSI C translation system:

#if 0
Not your father's compiler.
#endif

The appostrophe starts a character literal token which is never
terminated.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: bkelley@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Brian Kelley)
Subject: Re: Disk performance question on hp9000/730
Keywords: disk performance hp 9000 730 PA RISC SCSI
Organization: Ford Motor Company
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:51:22 GMT

In article <duff.714850491@starbase> duff@starbase.mitre.org (David A. Duff) writes:

>i've already spent some time reporting this problem to hp, and i've even
>had a service person come out.

You should have had the service person check your shift keys :-)


>before i pursue this further, i'd like to be absolutely sure that what
>i'm experiencing is a problem that is specific to my machine.  i'm
>wondering if anyone out there has tried running iozone on a 730 or 750
>(should be comparable performance).  what numbers are you getting?
>
>i'm consistently seeing the following:
>
><800K/second writing
><600K/second reading

Something is wrong, but you didn't give much info.  What OS version?
How much RAM do you have?

On a 720 with diff SCSI and a 1.2g disk, 32 MB ram and 8.07, I get:

pms709>/tmp/iozone 23
...
Writing the 23 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...11.560000 seconds
Reading the file...14.870000 seconds

IOZONE performance measurements:
        2086267 bytes/second for writing the file
        1621872 bytes/second for reading the file

I have observed very little performance difference between our 720/730/750
machines when conducting this simple test.  I never get numbers that low
(on an otherwise unloaded machine).

Note that disk buffers are statically allocated in 8.05 and 8.07.  You
may want to tweak the setting of the NBUFS kernel variable.  Check TFLROM
under 'bufpages' for more info.  Note that I have not had to touch any
kernel variables to obtain the above performance - you shouldn't have to
either.

>i suspect a problem with the i/o board on my machine.  anyone seen or
>heard of similar problems?  also, if anyone has performed these or
>similar tests, please post or send me your results.

Something is definitely not right.

  Brian

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From: djn@csc.liv.ac.uk (David Nixon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Colour X display corrupted by console writes on HP 710
Keywords: console
Date: 25 Aug 92 10:16:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University

I have come across an annoying feature of the X display on our
new HP 710 colour work-stations: Programs which send messages to the console
device, such as the accounting system, overwrite the X display . This is not
the case with our HP 720 grey-scale work-stations. 

According to the HP documentation the frame buffer device driver for colour
and grey-scale devices is nearly identical. Also the X server display can be
switched between the two banks of memory of the physical frame buffer. 

Can anyone explain the differences between the framebuffer hardware on HP 710s
and 720s that may account for the differing  behaviour ?  

Summary:  X login screens, such as those created by VUE or Xdm can be messed
up by running standard system  accounting software on HP 710s under HP-UX 8-07.

Thanks in advance for any knowledgeable replies,

David Nixon  ---  d.j.nixon%csc.liv.ac.uk -