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From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Silly Quotes
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:06:00 GMT

 cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:

[Norwich colours]     
>... Bring sunglasses, they are *not* an 
>optional extra.

They never are |-)

Tanaqui

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Subject: Re: Trisexual?
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 19:18:50 GMT

In <24889@castle.ed.ac.uk> angi@festival.ed.ac.uk (Angi Lamb) writes:
>The Independent, 15th August 1992
>
>Sir: Your diarist (12 August) asks "What is a trisexual?" I, too, once
>had occasion to ask, and was told "someone who will try anything, once".

Brief aside:
Jeff Dauber on soc.motss once said something like:

	I'll try anything once. Well, twice actually---just in case I
	got it wrong the first time.

[BTW Angi, I don't think setting the Distribution: line to "soc" will do
anything]


Ciaran.
-- 
Ciaran McHale                                                             ----
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From: J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Norwich (was Re: silly quotes)
Summary: whinge
Date: 22 Aug 92 15:35:04 GMT
Organization: S*E*R*F - the Software Engineers' Revolutionary Front

In article <1992Aug20.143410.3627@sci.kun.nl> janhen@sci.kun.nl writes:
>In article <17883@acorn.co.uk> osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith) writes:
>>In article <10428@scott.ed.ac.uk> bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies)
>>writes:
>>
>>>btw Anyone off to Norwich ???
>>
>>Yes  - assuming I get anything back in the post from them (I'll probably
>>turn up even if nothing arrives). So what exactly are you supposed to get
>>back from them anyway?
>
>A small letter confirming your application, a list of guesthouses in the
>neighbourhood, a fancy leaflet from the university of Norwich
>which tells you how great their place is,

Huh. Such a great organisation that they managed to double-book themselves,
forcing the Bi Conference to change their dates, and thus ensuring that
I couldn't go. Serves me right for planning my summer round the original
dates. :-(

> and a form for reservation
>of rooms at the university (not the same as the crash space).
>
>-Olaf.


/jon
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From: n8946410@janice.cc.wwu.edu (Cameron Parish)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Daughters of Copper Woman (was Re: "Giving up" Marraige)
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:51:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Aug13.195117.19619
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <1992Aug13.160714.14724@philabs.philips.com> kts@philabs.philips.com (Kimberley T. Smith) writes:

>
>oh yeah,  and read "Daughters of Copper Woman" too!  (I'll get the author's
>name to send later if anyone is interested.) 

	Anne Cameron.  It's an incredible book.  I read it a couple of years
ago, and felt like a warrior woman all day.  *grin*    She's also written a
couple of other books that I have pawed through in bookstores, but which 
didn't appeal to me as much.



Cam Parish
From: strake@coos.dartmouth.edu (strake)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Fashionably Bi? :)
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:33:50 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes:

>In article <16o50kINNkik@agate.berkeley.edu>
>     rsr@soda.Berkeley.EDU (Roy S. Rapoport) writes:

>>cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
>>>   o Don't assume I am really straight and only claiming to be
>>>     bisexual to be fashionable.

>>Umm, I must be more clueless than I thought.
>>Is it actually fashionable in some areas in the world to be bi?
>>Gee, *where*?

>   Don't pack so enthusiastically around here.  Note what Ciaran said:
>"... claiming to be bisexual..."  A painful truth, really; I had a few
>fellow students in my class tell me I was bisexual just to be 'cool';

And here we have someone who has claimed he was bisexual
becuase it was fashionable and easier to fit in, (I run in wierd circles)
course I've now come to my senses and still don't know quite what I am,
I just know what I like.  but the point is I am living proof of he who
is or was fashionably bi

the *where* btw is a couple groups of friends up in the northeast.
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From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Bedtime for Bonobos (was: Bisexuality article in _Time_)
Date: 17 Aug 92 05:48:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Aug16.031701.12106@news.Hawaii.Edu> johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan) writes:
+In article <1992Aug15.062928.2533@amhux2.amherst.edu> twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
+>I was actually rather pleased by the coverage.
+I thought it was all right, but the following lines really annoyed me

Well, I happened to be reading a March 1992 issue of Natural
Geographic and the cover article was about great apes and man, and
various interrelations. One group of apes that were mentioned where
the bonobos, aka Pygmy Chimps. These happy creatures appear to be
relatives to the inhabitants of the fundamentalists wildest
nightmares. The article described the variety of sexual activity
which included, male-male, male-female, female-female, oldster with
youngsters, ad infinitum. The researcher pontificated that sex
appeared to be a social stress reliever and that the fact that the
males need not 'compete' for the females allowed the bonobos to live
in a society where there was little violence amoung the group. The
researcher contrasted that with the common chimp, where fighting for
access is known and sex is not as 'polymorphically perverse'. Also
the researcher noted that the group was female dominated and the
males had no 'power' in the social structure, to whit when the top
female died, the male offspring had 'less' significance than when
she was alive.


So there you have it, the answer to true social order, female
dominance, and screw like hell anything that moves. If only the dead
sea scrolls would come up with 'something completely different' on
the dead martyr cult.


+(as they probably did to Tim and Ciaran, as well):
>
>	Bisexuals often claim to be more sensitive and empathic
>	lovers.  "There is some truth in that," says psychologist 
>	William Wedin, director of New york City's Bisexual
>	Information and Counseling Service.  "Part of being bisexual
>	means that you see things from more than one perspective.
>	You can't be comfortable in stereotypical ways of thinking and
>	reacting."
>
>Self-aggrandizing.
>
>--John
>-- 
>John Flanagan                          ||
>johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu           ||"No need to overheat your rhetoric,
>U. of Hawaii, Dept. of Physics & Astro.|| Exaggerating items in your pride..."
>2505 Correa Rd., Honolulu, HI 96822    ||        -- Mephistopheles, _Faust_


-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
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From: rsr@soda.Berkeley.EDU (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
Subject: Re: When you Meet a Lesbian: Hints for Heterosexual Women
Date: 17 Aug 1992 12:08:17 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Jul30.081748.22113@nwnexus.WA.COM> elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes:
->   *Laugh*  I gotta admit, every time I see these two pieces of advice
->I get a huge... smile.  (Get your mind out of the gutter, dammit! ;-)
->It's probably our most potent weapon, the "So, why ARE you straight,
->anyway?" question.
->
->         Elf !!!

Err, yeah ...

I should know ... I was straight before I saw that question :).






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From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Iseult, Tanaquai and crutches (was: That bloody War )
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Distribution: soc.bi
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:18:40 GMT

 bethan@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Bethan Davies) writes:
>> iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White) writes:
>>>>tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
>>
>>> And anyway .. anything I chose to do to you will definitely
>>>be enjoyable, for both of us.  I guess your so called protectors might
>>>find it enjoyable too.  If you really felt the need to have them around.
>>>Its just that I am not so interested in providing floor show entertainment!
>>>Not that I am suggesting you are either.  Not at all.
>
>Nah... Tanaqui's _far_ too sweet and innocent to even dream of such a 
>thing...

Thank you. See, everybody |-) ?

>>Dunno what to make of this, except to defy your femmey role & say "You're
>>the Boss" |-) & me? Provide floor show entertainment? What a shocking thought:
>>you'll ruin my carefully cultivated aura of innocence....
>
>
>Want to share the secret? My <innocent looks> just don't seem to be
>_convincing_ anymore...

Hide your eyes, dear. It'll either make you look sinister, pretentious or
innocent ...

Any way up, it'll make a change.

Tanaqui

"Ships charmed & ordinary sail the glide-path to the sun" _Imaginos_


Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans)
Subject: Re: queer brains?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:32:39 GMT

In article <28@ravel.ati.com> duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan) writes:
>In article <l8mgv7INNe0q@nunki.usc.edu> silverma@nunki.usc.edu (David Silverman) writes:
>
>>The way I see it, there is no proof that homosexuality is biological. 
>
>Earlier this summer the very progressive CBC (Canadian Broadcasting
>Corp.) broadcast an elaborate documentary in three one-hour segments on
>their summer "Witness" series.  Presented was luxuriant, detailed
>research demonstrating that sexual orientation, indeed one's gender 
>outlook, was substantially a biological phenomenon having to do with a
>jillion interelated factors. 

Was the research conducted on men or on women?  I recently (within the
past 3 months?) read an article on the topic of homosexuality as a 
biological phenomenon (I _think_ it was published in "Ms.") which
said that most gay men are comfortable with the biological explanation,
and felt that they had been "hard-wired" into homosexuality, whereas
most lesbians had made a conscious choice towards the company of
women, and were frequently uncomfortable with the biological explanation.

Comments?  Better sources?  Disagreement??

Piglet
From: hopkins@turing.ac.uk (Don Hopkins)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: BiBeaches ?
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:40:22 GMT
	<1992Aug10.125805.19360@plts.uucp>
Organization: The Turing Institute, Ltd.

I've heard that getting caught skinny dipping in a national park (in
the US) goes on your record as a SEX OFFENSE!

	-Don
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: asuccop@milton.u.washington.edu (Annemarie Succop)
Subject: Re: Gender difference?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 07:11:04 GMT

johnf@uhheph.phys.hawaii.edu (John Flanagan) writes:

>In article <24891@castle.ed.ac.uk> angi@festival.ed.ac.uk (Angi Lamb) writes:
>>A less obvious gender difference occurred to me.  After i've been
>>vaginally (mine that is) intimate with someone, I am physically aware of
>>the penetration for up to 2-4 days afterwards.  I did a quick survey. 
>>The women agreed.  The men hadn't heard of the lingering effects before
>>and it didn't happen to them. 

>Are you talking about when men aren't the receptive partner? 

	hmmm

	i've had lovers where i retained physical sensation (vaginally)
	for about a day, but not all vaginal interactions & not all partners.
	i also am not sure i'd myself chracterize it as *vaginal* aftereffects,
	per se; more like general perenial sensation.

	i think this has actually been most common when i was *not* using
	condoms w/male partners, making me think it may have been some
	kind of reaction to semen inside/on me.

	there was a certain type of finger fucking that would make me sore
	*right* afterwards; that never lasted all that long, tho, really.

	annemarie, slightly concerned as to what kind of email she may
		   get stuck nealing with in response to this post
	asuccop@u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Subject: Perverse Machines
Date: 16 Aug 92 13:18:00 GMT
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk


[Bethan Writes]

>If it wasn't for the fact that my office mate seems to have 'problems' 
>where computers are concerned (she prefers the Atari to a Mac), then 
>I, like most the rest of my research group, would be using an Atari 
>ST or something comparatively awful. Academia, huh?

Aww, c'mon Bethan, I've never even seen that old Atari ST switched on.
My guess is that you've had "Lemmings" blown into ROM and you timeshare
on the Mac...

>Me? oh, a 'spectravideo' (don't ask) and an amstrad 8512....

Oh_my_god! You have a Spectravideo? With the cute little blue rubber 
buttons? Tell me... I'd love to know if you actually used it for anything othe-
r 
than fretting over the crap cassette interface. As to the 8512, well, you do 
know that the resale value on that is probably marginally less than a 
scratched Emerson Lake and Palmer album... on 8-Track.

[duck] - But manages a <Snuggle> before he goes down.

Clive

(Mac's_R_Us - especially my cutie Mac Classic.It's called Tiny Clanger)
(and no, I've never had sex on one, it'd probably break the poor thing)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Introduction
From: witbrock@otago.ac.nz
Date: 22 Aug 92 15:40:23 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <BtCzqD.L5K@ibmpcug.co.uk>, gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal) writes:
> I dunno, I'm pretty erratic at the moment.  Too many bhattoras for
> lunch every day from Soloman's Mine - dunno why I go there so often.
> Actually, I do - it's because the place is a lesbian co-op, and one
> of the girls there keeps trying to embarrass me by flirting and
> making very sexist remarks that guys would never dare use if the
> positions were reversed...  I finally won that little battle of the
> sexualities by wearing one of my bi badges which totally flummoxed her :)
> (She thought she was poking fun at a very straight straight.  I can't
> help it if I look big & butch & manly ;-) )
> 
> G
> -- 
I do hope you'll take me there to lunch one day, 8-), shall we make that
say Sept 15 or so? (After I've surfaced and unpacked) I presume its 
near work, rather than one of these million other places you seem to turn up!
Doesnt the place have a strange name, considering? (or is it a typo)

Ann
ps. Whats a bhattora?
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From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Subject: Re: Warmest Wishes, Bethan!
Originator: pjb4288@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:26:54 GMT

Happy Birthday Bethan!!!
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From: wolfe@wolves.uucp (G. Wolfe Woodbury)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bisexuality and DEC PDP's... is there a link?
Date: 17 Aug 92 04:30:28 GMT
Organization: Red Wolfe @ The Wolves Den
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<1992Aug13.084002.22843@nwnexus.WA.COM> elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes:
>
>In article <1992Aug12.001630.1114@wolves.uucp>
>     wolfe@wolves.uucp (G. Wolfe Woodbury) writes:
>
>>There are strong reports that exposure to IBM software is highly
>>correlated with SM behaviour too!  :-)
>
>   Now now, Wolfe, dear.  We both know that you're stereotyping again,
>and as a confirmed sadomasochist AND as a confirmed detester of
>anything related to the Incredibly Boring Machine, it's my personal
>belief that working with an Intel chip is a sure sign of pathological
>masochism, but not my else besides...

	Well, excuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me.  Yes, I misstated the case, it
is really any MAINFRAME software that is highly correlated to SM.  The
PC is NOT the only thing that IBM made.  You young whippersnappers have
NO idea what sort of things mainframe software can do to you mind!

	I did not speficy which "mode" of SM was induced, but the correlation
is still bloody high.

	I was well on my way to being a genteel young faggot, with no evidence
in sight of SM proclivities until I started using IBM mainframe software.
Even the esteemed UNIX evangelists knew it when they said:

	After UNIX, using TSO is like *kicking* a dead whale down the beach.
-- 
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From: bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler)
Subject: Re: Bethan's Birthday Greetings
Reply-To: bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 14:58:20 GMT


In a previous article, chris@unicorn.resun.com (Chris Von Hendy) says:

>
>In article <1992Aug17.151105.20597@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> (soc.bi), bx304@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Epler) writes:
>> You going to share with me?  Now I've contributed...
>
>Sure, I'm happy to e-flirt with people from my birth town.

Strange.  I start in California (San Diego) and end up here in Nebraska.
You start in Nebraska and end up in California.. This probably means
something.
>
>Hug.. Slurp

*lick*
*cuddle*
>> 
>> |Jeff Epler               Additions Welcome           c(-8 ;-) >{8-) |
>> |                                                   Lincoln, Nebraska|
>>                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Chris Von Hendy            "If we shadows have offended,
>Escondido, California       Think but this, and all is mended,
            ^^^^^^^^^^
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From: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
Subject: Re: Joke
Reply-To: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 01:49:15 GMT


In a previous article, osmith@acorn.co.uk (Owen Smith) says:
>
>". . .  There's an off license just round the corner with a cash machine 
>over the road from it. See you in five minutes."

For the benefit of us Bloody Ignorant Yanks (tm), what exactly is an
off license?  Is it like a package store?

-- PTD --
(who vaguely recalls hearing the term pop up in a Monty Python sketch,
but can't entirely remember....)
-- 
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From: aag@aber.ac.uk (Angela Gilham)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Iseult, Tanaquai and crutches (was: That bloody War )
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:47:34 GMT
	<1992Aug9.151424.1713@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> <iw.713519051@tosser>
	<1992Aug11.184209.21320@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
	<1992Aug12.150509.1762@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>
Organization: Computer Science, University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <1992Aug12.150509.1762@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> 
fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
   tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
   > iw@tosser.Rational.COM (Iseult White) writes:
   >>>tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
   >>>>
   >>>>Eeek! Who'll help protect me from Iseult? Ang? (Don't hide in that 
   >>>>corner girl)...

I'm not in the corner! I'm in the lab doing the rewrites on Chapter
Five at half-past one in the morning ;-(
   >>>> Fenthe? Anyone? (Where is everyone?)
   >>
   >>Protection ?!!??!!  Protection from little 'ol becrutched femmey 
   >>me.  I don't think so.  
   >
   ><grin> I did pick the two lightest, least aggressive people I could recall
   >being in the U.K.!

    Hmmph. And there was me feeling touched at being thought of as a protector.
   See how much saving-from-the-crutch /I/ do.. <grin>

Hmmm. Unaggressive? Me? Well, that's a new one on me . . . Of course I
could have been listening too closely to the comments of certain
people who find me frighteningly aggressive, possessive, and
threatening . . . on the other hand, there's no need to be aggressive
around Tanaqui. I just sit back, relax, and let my silk shirts or
lycra leggings do all the work ;-) Alternatively, I sit around and 
spit blood into her sink and weeble; it's amazing how unaggressive
one can be under the latter circumstances, in fact, its amazing how
uneverything one can be under those circumstances. 

Ang (who has to confess that she spent a weeks' holiday with Tanaqui, 
     and spent all her time being thoroughly ill with tosilitis, and
     was thus the most apologetic and well-behaved house guest one
     could ever imagine)
--
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Department of Computer Science  \                \ love with a happy man, if 
University of Wales, Aberystwyth,\ +44 970 622433 \ you wanted happiness. But
Penglais, Aberystwyth,            \                \ you fell for the breath-
SY23 3BZ. United Kingdom.          \                \ taking beauty of pain."
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (S Hopkins)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Appreciate Me Now and Avoid the Rush!
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:39:58 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

aag@aber.ac.uk (Angela Gilham) writes:

>Well, for those on this group who know me, either in the flesh
>(Tanaqui and Peter can stop grinning like that, for a start) or
>merely electronically, this is a sad time.

Not for me; you're moving *closer* to me, and moreover, your nearest bi
group will soon be in Edinburgh! For the real physical Angela I can live
without the electronic one ... 

Sara
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