HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kentm@aix.rpi.edu (Michael V. Kent)
Subject: Re: Changing the finder.
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 16:42:21 GMT

In article <XRDoqB2w165w@lablues.UUCP> larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider) writes:
>
>When you quit the "Finder," you are given a dialog box.  The
>normal highlighted option is "Shut Down (Turn..." I would like
>the normal highlighted option to be "Quit to previous
>application." i.e. ProSel.  HOW???      Thanks    Larry

There is a program floating around called Finder Patcher (or something like
that) that will let you set the default shut down option to any of those 3
choices.  It will also set Command-S to Close All, and it let's you do one
other thing which I can't remember right now.  It worked under System 5 -- 
never tried it under System 6.

Let me know if this is of use to you.

Also, under System 6 the arrow keys will let you navigate through those three
options, and the first letter of each will move you to it (Hit Q for Quit to..)

Mike

-- 
Michael Kent                                   kentm@rpi.edu
McDonnell Douglas                              Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
All facts in this post are based on publicly available information.  All
opinions expressed are solely those of the author.    Apple II Forever !!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Subject: Re: Accelerator Performance
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 03:34:19 GMT

bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE) writes:
: >	32k is a good cache size for 8mhz.  Remember to get fast cache
: >ram chips otherwise ur accelerator will be bottlenecked by the cache.
: 
:   This is incorrect.  If the cache isn't fast enough, the accelerator simply
: won't function.
: 
:   For 9MHz I still have 70ns chips.

	Hello, :), I was using 70ns chips on my 8mhz Zip GS before I
upgraded to 9mhz.  Now I'm using 20ns chips with my 9mhz and when I
compare them to the 70ns, I get better performance with the newer and
faster chips.

: -- 
:  Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment
:  Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   
:  bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   P.O Box 620334
:  --Apple II Forever!--      |   Littleton, CO 80162-0334   (303) 933-4649

- DOTW -
ps. Has anybody seen The Apple II Guide 1992 Edition?  Pretty good,
except I don't like the cover; appears to be telling people to transit
from an Apple IIe to a Mac LC.

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From: bilbo@pro-fla.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Subject: Rom 2?
Organization: TruckStop BBS  [pro-fla] *A ProLine Networked BBS*  Tampa, FL
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 04:48:16 EDT


Anybody out there know of this?

Apple II
Technical Notes
___________________________________________________________________________
                                                  Developer Technical
Support
 
 
Apple IIGS
#13:    ROM 1.0 Modem Firmware Bug
 
Revised by:    Matt Deatherage                                  November
1988
Written by:    Mike Askins                                         April
1986
 
This Technical Note formerly discussed a bug involving buffering and serial
port setting commands in the modem firmware in ROM 1.0.
___________________________________________________________________________
 
Apple IIGS ROM 2.0 fixes a bug involving buffering and serial port setting
commands in the modem firmware.  You should not have to write a special
case
to handle this bug since it is reasonable to expect users to have the
updated
ROM which is offered as a free upgrade from Apple.
 
--------------------

Was such a beast ever available?

Also, has anyone out there purchased the new Zoom V32/V42.bis 9600 modem
WITHOUT Fax?  If so, have you been able to get the handshaking portion to
work properly with yer GS.... I am using PT3, and get downloads from
965-1022cps.... but it barfs on uploads, if I attempt to use any protocol
faster than regular Ymodem 1K.....

I contacted the folks at Insync... and was told by their tech support that
their modem cable, and the current software drivers will work perfectly
(what a laugh!!!) especially, since they admitted that they did not even
try the new modem out and have not written a specific driver for it.....

However, I have had the same problem with different cable configurations,
and different software, so it must be related to the GS itself....

Also, several of my friends are using the Supra 14.4 modems, with no
problems......

Any ideas?  Suggestions?  Uploading at 600cps is the pits!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: stinerkt@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Kevin T Stiner)
Subject: OLD Apple IIe
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:18:20 GMT


Well,

I seem to have an OLD (around 1982) Apple IIe (still looks pretty good)  
(never had ANY problems) with 2 disk drives, the normal moniter, an epson  
lx-80 printer with Grappler II (or II+) card, 300 baud modem (zoom  
communications), a good joystick, 128k card, and many....many STORE bought  
games with original instructions + other software, and original operator's  
manual.

My question is....Could I get anywhere around $100 bucks for it?????
How much higher could I go?????
Should I go any lower???

Maybe some artifact collector is out there and I have what he/she is  
looking for.

ANY help would be APPRECIATED.

Kevin T. Stiner

PS  reason for sale - IT'S ABOUT TIME I GOT SOMETHING MORE UP-TO-DATE!!
(I am going to get some sort of Amiga or IBM and I need all the money I  
can get)
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: NDA vs. CDA?
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:18:00 GMT

Actually, I think that the Classic Desk Accessory vs. New Desk Accessory
naming is derived from the Classic Coca-Cola vs. New Coca-Cola wars of the
IIGS-release time period. :)

- Eric S.

--
Eric Shepherd  |  Internet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |  AOL: Sheppy
-------- ACM Member ----- Apple II Alliance Charter Member --------
Erroneous statements and inappropriate opinions stated herein are
caused by network glitches and are not attributable to the author.
From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: getting a keypress
Date: 12 Sep 92 13:41:12 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: soundmaster?
Date: 12 Sep 92 20:37:27 GMT
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA

rjd@alpha.sunquest.com (Robert J. Dull) writes:

>My friends Mac has a program called SoundMaster that allows him to
>replace the standard system beeps & whistles with more "intersting"
>sounds.  Is there anything like that for the GS?  If so where can
>I get it and where can I get some sounds to play?  

>rjd@alpha.sunquest.com

Yeah, you just have to have System 6 from Apple. You can replace about 25
different system events ranging from "Disk Insert" to "Clicking illegally"
with whatever sound you like. Unfortunately, the Sound Control Panel,
which makes this possible, tends to take up a rather large clunk of
memory, and the sounds themselves are very big. I'd recommend sticking
with the standard beep unless you have 2 megs or more.

(I have been on the InterNet for 4 days now and I still have no idea how
to use it. Hope I'm doing this right.)

phil
vandry@champlain.cam.org
From: cust_ts@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Sand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: DOS 3.3 Launcher
Date: 7 Sep 92 06:47:53 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Sep7.010309.14804@fawlty.towers.oz.au> johnmac@fawlty.towers.oz.au (John MacLean) writes:
>The DOS 3.3 Launcher v1.1 is now being distributed - so keep your eyes
>out.  [Don't ask me to post it to comp.binaries.apple2 - it's shareware].

So? Sharaware means it IS ALLOWED TO BE DISTRIBUTED!
-- 
-Tero Sand
  EMail: cust_ts@cc.helsinki.fi     Snail mail: Auroran Sairaala os. 6-1
  (if that doesn't work, try                    Nordenskioldinkatu 20
   cust_ts@kruuna.helsinki.fi)                  00250 Helsinki 25, Finland
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From: bbs.brennan@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Brennan Pang)
Subject: Apple //c - $150
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:28:31 GMT

Selling immaculate condition:

Apple //c w/power supply

$150, you pay shipping.

brennan

--
Brennan Pang (bbs.brennan@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: taob@terranet.cts.com (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Blue Helmet
Date: 8 Sep 92 04:37:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) writes...
>
>TO: John Blaby
>
>Well, since I don't have a ZIP ( I have a TWGS ) and you do, and
>because Blue Helmet doesn't crash on my system but does on yours...I
>think it could be safe to assume to the ZIP may have something to do
>with the problem. Please disable it, or slow it down, and let us know
>if Blue Helmet acts better.

    Just so you know, I've "played" Blue Helmet a few times and it
hasn't crashed on me yet (ZipGS 8MHz/16K at 100%).  It still hangs
after a few minutes of driving.
--
Brian T. Tao    =*8-) | ::::::::> tcomtaob@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca <::::::::
Dept. of Exobiology   | :::::> generic!terranet!taob@zoo.toronto.edu <:::::
University of Toronto | "Though this be madness, yet there is method in't."
From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:  AOL gateway
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:19:24 GMT
Organization: The Internet

I believe Dave's AOL screen name is DAVE L32 not DAVE.L32.  This is important to
note, because to reach him on AOL, you'd send to davel32@aol.com  Spaces are not
passed as part of the name internally at Quantum, and injecting a period for a
space will get lost.  Also stuff to aol.com does NOT bounce... once it wanders
through the mists and swamps it is not tracked for appropriate addressing within
AOL.

Marc
(also mwolfgram@aol.com)
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From: dsdd@okcforum (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: Dot-matrix vs Ink jet
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:09:34 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Here's an Idea, get a Panasonic KX-P4410 Laser Partner Laser Printer. It 
goes at a $610 Street Price, and if you get a cheap $50 Parallel Printer Card,
you can use it with ProDOS 8 and GS/OS. It is LaserJet IIP Compatible, and it isgreat! (You should get Harmonie though.... it's worth it! Overall price of about
less than $700.... plus 28 resident fonts!


On the Other hand, the Apple Rep could be lying just to get money out of you,
my IWII died and I got repair estimates of $150-400, and then I took it to a 
reputable NON-authorized Apple Dealer, and I got it fixed for free.... 
(The Ribbon Deck got loose... Take it to an honest person...)
--

Roy Barrett, InterNet: (dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu), FutureNet: #1@#31
Double-Sided Double-Density (405/943-9496), FutureNet Site #31, Apple ][!!
 "Yes. but I didn't inhale" -- Bill Clinton, "Potatoe" -- Dan Quayle
From: jimmys@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Subject: ByteWorks and Talking Tools (was Re: phonem dictionary)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Reply-To: jimmys@ics.uci.edu (Jimmy Shaw)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 13 Sep 92 06:44:56 GMT

In article <i915197@pro-fla.cts.com> bilbo@pro-fla.cts.com (Bill Logsdon) writes:
>
>Well, there was an antique once, called SmoothTalker.... emulated a male or
>female voice, spoke via selected text, word, or sentence...
>
>but I am not sure if it is still available anywhere, and I don't believe it
>will work under system 6....
>

I believe that SmoothTalker is now being licensed/distributed by ByteWorks,
and it's called _Talking_Tools_.  The list price is $60.

Speaking of ByteWorks, can someone please tell me if these are the current
version of Orca:

I have 		Orca Shell 1.2.2,
		Orca C/disk version 1.3.1,
		Release date: 1 Nov. 1991, and finally,
		Prizm 1.1.4,

I would like to know if these are the most current versions, because I
would like to get GNO/ME soon, and having the latest version would
probably avoid many headaches and incompatibilties.

Thanks in advance.

Jimmy Shaw
--
Jimmy Shaw			 RamFAST, ZipGSX and 6.0... Apple II Forever!
jimmys@ics.uci.edu
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From: isc10327@nusunix3.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Accelerator performance
Date: 13 Sep 92 17:07:47 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore

FORDE@UV6.EGLIN.AF.MIL ("ERIC S FORD") writes:
: >        I bought a 8mhz Zip GS around a year ago and only recently
: >upgraded it to a 9mhz thru a friend.  What he did was to change the
: >crystal and soldered a couple of resistors on board (mine was the
: >older
: >design) and added faster cache ram chips.  And it works!  All it costs
: >me was only S$50 (US$75) compared to what Zip was charging for an
: >upgrade (not to mention the freight charges too!).  Anyway, both my
: >friend and I pushed our Zip GS's to 9mhz and both cards have been
: >functioning perfectly ever since.
: 
: Can we get more specifics on how you did this?
: 
	First, a correction: S$50 should be around US$30 and not US$75.
	If you have the newer version of the 8mhz zip (v1.02 and above),
the upgrade is quite simple.  Just change the oscillator and cache ram
chips to faster ones.  The oscillator should be 36mhz (divided by 4
gives 9mhz) and the cache ram chips I used are 20ns ones (available in
Singapore for S$20 each, abt US$12, 2 chips for 32k, 4 chips for 64k).
	If you are using the older version (v1.01 and below, I got the
v1.01 Zip), then you'll have to find a friend's 9mhz Zip GS and copy the
schematics on the new Zip by soldering additional resistors and perhaps
capacitors as well.  After that, change the oscillator and cache rams
like the above.  It worked for mine.

: When I first started reading this newfeed (roughly 1985) articles like this
: one were common and perhaps the best reason for subscribing.  The only
: things missing here are the specifics on how to make such a mod (including
: even a crude diagram) and the usual caveat -> this will violate your
: warranty!
: 
	I know it'll void my warranty but since my Zip is more than 1
year old, the warranty is gone anyway.  Also, considering the $$$ that
Zip Technologies is charging for an upgrade and the cost of freight from
Singapore to USA, I took the risk and upgraded it locally; and it paid
off.  My Zip is now running at 9mhz/32k without any problems.

: Teach us, Guru, that we may go on to greater speed!!!
: 
	I think you're mistaken --- I'm not a hardware guru!  My friend
(ex engineering student) is the one who upgraded my (and his) Zip GS!
But having read up on hardware stuff, I gather that the upgrade can be
easily performed for anybody with a little technical knowledge and
steady hands.

: Eric S. Ford
: 

- DOTW -
There are Apple IIgs users in Singapore too!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Accelerator Performance
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:50:17 GMT

schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz) writes:

>I am going to be getting an accelerator for my IIgs
>in the near future and have a few questions:

>1.  A significant performance increase is seen with a 
>    7 or 8 MHz ZIPGS but how noticeable is the performance
>    increase between some of the upper speeds (i.e., from
>    7 MHz to say 9 or 10 MHz)?? Since cost is a big issue
>    for me I don't want to waste money on a 9/10 MHz card
>    when a 7/8 would really do the job for me.

  Yes, there is a noticeable difference, especially in graphics with
the Zip from 7MHz/16K to 9MHz/64K.  It's about a 25% increase in general
system performance. (as you might guess from 7/9).

>2.  What are some of the system bottlenecks that would cause
>    the effective increase in performance to "plateau" at the
>    higher speeds.

  Graphics, but a large cache fixes that.  That, and disk I/O is
pretty much it.

>7 MHz, 8Kb ZIPGS
>Apple High Speed DMA SCSI card.

>Do these two cards match up fairly well?

>4.  Oh, one final thing!  With the proposed set-up what would be
>    the most cost effective Cache size for the ZIPGS?

  You want the biggest cache you can afford.  32K wouldn't be a bad idea.
64K will make that 7MHz work for you as much as possible.

  The DMA SCSI is pretty nice; it's probably on average as fast as a RAMfast
on reads, but definitely not on writes; the RAMfast accepts the data for a
write and then returns control to the computer immediately; the actual
write to disk occurs in the background.

-- 
 Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment
 Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   
 bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   P.O Box 620334
 --Apple II Forever!--      |   Littleton, CO 80162-0334   (303) 933-4649
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From: bilbo@pro-fla.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Subject: Reply by email flame....
Organization: TruckStop BBS  [pro-fla] *A ProLine Networked BBS*  Tampa, FL
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 04:55:12 EDT


Well, ALL discussion is normally welcomed, because many who never even
enter into it benefit....

It is just the idiotic flame wars that we perfer not to view.... let em got
(ratz, typo) go to the back room and duke it out... then rejoin us...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: Flopticals...any successful usage out there?
Keywords: Floptical, Insite, SCSI
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:42:14 GMT

lang@cs.tulane.edu (Raymond Lang) writes:

>In article <1992Sep3.045719.10600@cco.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:
>>1. Tulin is final-testing an Apple SCSI driver for the Floptical. This would
>>be GS/OS only, and while I remember hearing that the current SCSI.Manger will
>>work with the Rev.C card, I am not certain.

>So I wouldn't be able to use this from a PC-Transporter, since that runs
>under P8; or would I just have to make sure that I launched AEPC from GS/OS?

I don't know exactly how the PCT operates -- maybe somebody else can answer
this one. The RamFast (rom version 2.01 or later) will use the floptical from
both GS/OS and P8; it functions but it is not seamless. I am working on getting
CVT to support it but they are not being too cooperative just yet.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Subject: Re: Information about ][+
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:16:41 GMT

hpoe@nyx.cs.du.edu (Howard Poe) writes:

>rnbowen@eos.ncsu.edu (RONNIE NEIL BOWEN) writes:
>>1.  What is an Applicard?  This has one in slot 5.

It's a CP/M card. I forget the exact specs, but the Appli-Card was one of the
better ones (i think). Not that it's much use now.

>Not all software is public domain.  Some of it is still sold.

Worse, most of the stuff that used to be sold is tied up in copyrights that
haven't died yet, but the companies are out of business or have moved on, so
it CAN'T be PD even though it really should be.

>>4.  This this has 2 Apple II disk drives, but I have no software, not even
>>    and Operating System.  Which OS should I use and where can I get one?
>This computer is best off running DOS 3.3.  It can run ProDOS with a different
>ROM chip in the Disk Controller Board in slot 6.

(Bzzt) DOS 3.3 and Prodos both need the 16 sector controller ROM. You _do_ need
the 16k language card in slot 0 and AppleSoft roms to run Prodos, though. Any
1.x version of prodos (except one which is old and got recalled quickly) will
run on the ][+. When you get that running and get sick of the ENTER PREFIX OR
RETURN TO ACCEPT let me know and I will send you a replacement for it that is
much easier to use (it will be the one I wrote; there are others).

>>5.  I also got a printer.  Imagewriter II, I think.  But there is no card
>>    to connect it to.  Where can I find one?  Applied Engineering has a 
>>    serial card for $119 but that sure seems steep, especially since a
>>    serial card for a PC costs about $15.

Jameco sells a nice one for about $50-$60, I forget. There ain't enough hard
competition in the Apple market to make serial cards that cheap. Actually if
you still can, I would recommend getting a parallel interface printer and a
parallel card ($30 at JameCo, I have one in my IIgs and use it with a Panasonic
1124i Epson LQ850 compatible) because the parallel card is cheaper and it is
also faster than serial.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jsnow@moons.sim.es.com (John Snow)
Subject: Re: IIgs telecom programs...
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:40:31 GMT

grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes:

>In article <1992Sep8.223121.3034@news.iastate.edu> irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt) writes:
>>TelCom probably has the best VT100 on IIgs, except one thing...when SCREEN 
>>inits it really clobbers things until I Reset Emulation...small price to pay

>AND except that it doesn't work with internal modems, like many GS comm
>programs.  At least, it doesn't work with -my- internal modem.

>Woe to GS owners with internal modems... alas we a stuck with ProTERM.
>-- 
> __                                                                        __
>(__)  Grover Thomas                   InterNet:  grover@emunix.emich.edu  (__)


I have been selling a shareware GS specific VT100 terminal emulator
called SnowTerm for over 4 years now. Its definitely not ProTerm, but
it doesn't pretend to be a full blown telecom program - just a very
good VT100 emulation.

It supports all VT100 character attributes like bold, blink, reverse,
underline, double wide, and double high. It also fully supports the
VT100 line drawing character set. It fully maps the GS arrow keys and
keypad to match a VT100.

It supports both internal and external modems.

Special graphics routines were used to speed up the screen update. I
regularly use SnowTerm with my 38.4K baud modem. While SnowTerm can't
keep up with lots of text being dumped to the screen at those kinds of
speeds, it does a reasonable job and doesn't lose any text due to
large buffers and XON/XOFF protocol.

Like I said, SnowTerm doesn't claim to be a full blown telecom
program. It doesn't support any file transfer protocols. It does do
text capture and text file send. It doesn't support any kind of macros
or scripting. It does do an excellent job of VT100 emulation.

SnowTerm is sold as shareware for $20. It should be available on the
major computer services and in most archives or directly from me:

Snow Software
PO Box 58621
Salt Lake City, UT 84158

--John
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From: POSTMASTER@MC.DUKE.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Rom 2?
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:05:33 GMT
Organization: Duke University Medical Center, Durham NC, USA

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