From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: SC rally: "We don't want a draft dodger for president!"
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 14 Sep 92 11:36:21 CDT


In article <BuHBtM.C1q@eis.calstate.edu>, kmitche@eis.calstate.edu (Kenneth Mitchell) writes:
> Dr. Norman Lefave writes:
>  
> >We have had 12 disasterous years due to these sheep. Ronald Reagan presented
> >them with flags, bombs bursting in air, mom, apple pie, and baseball and they
> >bought it hook, line, and sinker. The sad thing is that they have been the
> >ones to suffer the worst due to his policies and they are still falling for
> >these substance-less smokescreens. And now, here they are falling for
> >a brand new set of smokescreens.... (family-values, draft records,....).
> 
> Oh, really? 12 disastrous years? What country do you get your news from? 
> 
> In the U.S., we started 1980 with 12% inflation, 20+% interest rates,
> unemployment nearly double what it is now,

Unemployment in 1980 was 7.1%.  It is curently 7.6%.  

>                                             and a resurgent, aggressive
> USSR. 
> 
> The USSR is gone, having self-destructed in the race to get ahead of us
> militarily.

Actually Gorbachev said that the USSR could not compete in a high-tech 
information economy while maintaining a closed society.  Personal computers,
modems and camcorders were more effective than ICBMs.

>              It was expensive for us, too, but the alternatives would have
> been FAR worse. 
> 
> Inflation is now essentially zero. Interest rates haven't been this low in
> decades.

Economic growth over the last three years has not been this slow since the 
Great Depression. (Note slower than under Carter.)

>          The only reason that we're having this recession now is that
> the democrats in congress (I capitalize neither "democrat" nor "congress",
> because they don't deserve the honor) enacted (yes, with George Bush's
> connivance) the biggest tax increase in history, which forced many
> businesses into bankruptcy and caused countless others to scale back. 

Hint, the country was already in a recession when taxes were raised in 1990.

> The average American can clearly see that he was better off under Reagan
> than Carter.

And the average American knows it is more fun to run up a credit card bill
than to pay it off.

>               And while I hold no particular admiration for Bush (who
> pronounced Reagan's plans as "voodoo economics" back in 1980), he can't
> possibly be as bad as Clinton. 

Well Bush has been worse than Carter.

> Of course, if you LIKE the current recession, you'll LOVE what Clinton's
> tax-and-spend economic plan will do to the country!

If you don't like the current recession, why re-elect the man that signed
the legislation you claim *caused* the recession?

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:34:24 GMT
Subject: Re: Intellectuals and totalitarianism (was Re: WORLD GOVERNMENT)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA