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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Vampire Hunter C)
Subject: Re: Orion Translation Job
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 05:32:12 GMT

In article <78219@ut-emx.uucp>, cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes:
> 
> If anyone else has the Dark Horse preview thingie (it's got The Mask on the
> cover), could they please post some more specific info?

I can do better than that.  I have a ORION flyer freebie I got from the local
store.

			ORION #1 (of 6)
			Story, art and painted covers
			by Masamine Shirow.
			Translation by Fred Schodt
			(author of MANGA! MANGA!) and
			Toren Smith.

			$3.50 U.S., $4.25 Canada.
			56 B&W pages, painted cover.
			Shipping September 29, 1992.
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From: wang@ocf.berkeley.edu (Albert Sze-Wei Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Studio Proteus and Nausicaa
Date: 18 Aug 1992 05:22:20 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Jul24.212805.2352@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2) writes:
|>In article <1992Jul24.091623.3891@sactoh0.sac.ca.us>, dcm@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (D. Chris Miller) writes:

|>> Well, at Anime Expo, Toren Smith said that Studio Proteus will not be
|>> involved with Nausicaa when it continues.  It will be all Viz, or Viz and
|>> another group.

>So whatever happened to the rumor that Miyazaki didn't want anyone else but
>SP to translate Nausicaa?  Anyone else who was at AE can answer?

Let's just suffice to say that there are those of us who know the answer.
However, if Torren Smith doesn't want to say, then it will not be known
to anyone except those who already know, or to those who think they know.


Albert

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From: thao@bnr.ca (Anthony Murtagh)
Subject: Re: Homosexuality in manga (was Re: help!!!)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:58:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.051513.6596@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty-kun) writes:
>In article <5855@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>, 9105HOLL%UCSBVM.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Jennifer M. Holland) writes:

[manga news slow...deleted]

>
>Ok, what do you want to talk about?  :-)  Here's some starters:
>
>- There's a veritable slew of characters out there who are
>  theoretically male, but whose looks confound the gender issue.
>  Ladios Sopp in FIVE STAR STORIES, Andromeda Shun in SAINT SEIYA,
>  Yellow Dancer in GENESIS CLIMBER MOSPEDA, and so on, and on, and on...
>
>I'd like to note that in the case of Sopp, his looks (heck, the look of
>FSS as a whole) is taken from the style of shojo manga.
>

waitaminit...not to start a "sex" war :-) BUT i thought some of the 
aforementioned character's gender had been determined and substantiated.
specifically, ladios sopp and yellow dancer...there was a recent
thread indicating (actually vehemently stating :-) ) that andromeda
shun was also male.  let's just say that they're "different."  

>> Anyone interested in discussing why Japanese want their
>> young girls fantasizing about gay men?
>
>I don't think it's "The Japanese", as you say.  But I've noticed that
>homosexuality is as common a female fantasy as lesbianism is for males.
>That is true no matter WHERE the piece of fiction comes from.
>

yup.  independent of culture...it's a human thing.

>> Please respond to me directly if you like, since my guess is that most
>> of this list is not interested in these topics.  (Or I could be wrong.)
>
>To tell the truth, most people here (college-age
>males) are not into shojo manga at all.  Their loss.  :-)

geeez...you mean you've missed all those sailor moon threads that were
flying everywhere for a while?  college-age males *all* of them.  ;-)
haven't seen any eps myself but the way the ravings have been going,
i'm tempted to sneak a peek.  

laly thao


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From: bl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Bo-Yi Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: fss
Date: 22 Aug 1992 10:41:52 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu


I've been reading Five Star Stories Vol.1.  Since I don't know much Japanese
I'm thoroughly confused.  For one thing there seems to be 2 Amaterasu in the
story...can anyone here please explain?  I'm also in the process of
translating a part of the book.  Since I understand little over half of the
dialogue I'll have to find a Japanese-speaking person to exploit.  But until
then...
From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Homosexuality in manga (was Re: help!!!)
Date: 23 Aug 1992 02:00:13 GMT
Organization: studio 3x3, a.b.
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu


well, you don't need to read too many shojo's to find gay characters. 
Greenwood, Genji (or for that matter, most Kouga stuffs), CLAMP stuffs,
etc, etc.  Not too many lesbian mangas I can think of, save some brain dead
RPG serials.  The best gay story I've read is in 19, and more specifically,
one of the extra stories in vol.12.  There are supposedly many D.S./Karus 
dojinshis out there, but (un)fortunately I haven't seen any of those.

Now come to think of it, Marllar of AMG might be a lesbian... (and I didn't 
write that!)

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From: wang@ocf.berkeley.edu (Albert Sze-Wei Wang)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Ghost in the Shell translation
Date: 18 Aug 1992 05:36:05 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug9.162115.8837@eskimo.celestial.com> ntprlr@eskimo.celestial.com (NightProwler) writes:
>jasong@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:


>The concept is that Dark Horse has picked up all of Eclipse's stuff from SP.
>Dark Horse has scheduled to bring ID to market on the 25th of this month (US
>market).  They've started taking orders for Orion, and a freind of mine at DH
>says they've started the process of colorizing the remaining b&w pages of GitS
>(bleah!  Kill Ted Turner!).

COLORIZING???  AARRGG!!!  Great, just what we need, someone else who thinks
they can do manga better than the Japanese creator can.  I don't know about
you but if you have Ghost in the Shell, the "remaining" pages are virtually the
whole manga!!!  Ghost in the Shell is a black and white manga with color
splashed in the beginning section of each chapter.  Well, I sure as hell
hope they don't screw up the coloring job.  Ruin another good manga by
attempting to color it.  When will it end?  Sigh.

Albert

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: rbean@netcom.com (William Chen)
Subject: Re: intron depot
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 09:49:01 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I picked up a japanese copy of Intron Dopot 1 this weekend and was more than
happy with it. For those of you who have no idea what Intron Depot1 is about,
(like me before I bought it) it is a collection of Shirow's color art work
from his fanzine days through AppleSeed Five. The art work in the book are taken
from book covers, chapter opening page, charactor merchandising to pieces he
did for games. 
	The format is read from left to right ( US style). The version I have 
contains both english and japanese texts. 99% of the text is shirow talking
about the piece of art shown. Besides comments on his personal style and color
composition he also talk about technologies that were used in the stories.BTW,
did you know the guns in AppleSeed five and Ghost in the Shell are known as
Seburo and it's trademarked? Anyway the translation is excellent and the text
makes you feel like you just spent an afternoon with Shirow. There are 226 
illustrations most of which took up an entire page. The entire book is printed
in thick semi-glossy paper. I can go on all day about the book, but I won't.
Just run out and buy the book it is worth every penny you paid for it.
	About it's price, Well, that's the best part. The retail price for the
Japanese edition is set at 2400 yen. If you get it at Kinokunia in San Jose
it comes out to be 32 dollars with out text. Nikaku, when they get it, will
probably charge less. I won't get into the price Dark Horse is charging for 
Intron Depot1. But if you don't have access to the Japanese edition, 
Intron Depot is well worth the 40 dollar price tag it's wearing in the US. So
RUN, FLY, WARP to your nearest dealer and pick up your copy today.
-Will Chen
	AKA rbean@netcom.com.

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did you know that the FN P90 style gun in Ghost in the Shell is call 

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From: ortega@cactus.org (Paul Ortega)
Subject: What is Two Drive Slane?
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 07:05:58 GMT

I was browsing through the handful of excess manga (leftover from
discontinued subscriptions, I guess) and found an ad for something
called Two Drive Slane.  The accompaning illustration was of
a sunglasses wearing woman with a large gun and a mechanical
preying mantis on her shoulder.  Very C-punkish looking.

Anybody know anything about this series?

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From: ph111-dz@violet.berkeley.edu (david mou)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: intron depot
Date: 18 Aug 1992 08:46:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu

In article <16q2f2INNvf@agate.berkeley.edu> wang@ocf.berkeley.edu (Albert Sze-Wei Wang) writes:
>In article <XmaHPB4w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Benoy Koshy) writes:
>>cbjuland@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
>
>>- Intron Depot is listed for $39.95 according to Dark Horse.  Yet Manga-chan
>>- new mail order company) list's the Japanese version for about $22.70.
>
>Jeez.  Are they doing direct importing then?  Are they even going to touch
>the original and do something like wipe out the Japanese text?  It almost
>sounds like they're directly importing them and reselling them for profit.
>At this rate it's worth it to find someone who's going to Japan and simply
>have he or she bring back Intron Depot... maybe with the Ranma game for the
>SNES your friends own...  :)
>

If you are willing to wait 6 weeks, you can have Kino special order via air
Intron Depot for $22.70 + 20% + Cal tax = $29.50, and add another $3-5 to
have it delivered to your doorstep. If you would wait 3 months you can 
scratch the 20% shipping, and if you would buy from somewhere other than 
California, the tax rate would be much lower than 8.25%.  Besides, I'm sure
that Kino would order many more copies to fill the demands, until the store
is overstocked with Intron Depot's.  And then they'll stack them next to the
overstocked GSC's.
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From: tdunn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Tim Dunn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Studio Proteus and Nausicaa
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:55:25 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

Albert Sze-Wei Wang writes:
>Let's just suffice to say that there are those of us who know the answer.

Great. Now we get to chant "I gotta secret, I gotta secret." If you're
not going to spit, then get off the spot. IMPO, no followup would have
been better than the one you made.

-- 
We've sent a man to the moon, and that's 29,000 miles away.  The center
of the Earth is only 4,000 miles away.  You could drive that in a week,
but for some reason nobody's ever done it.
		-- Andy Rooney
From: tetsu@kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (UEHARA Tetsu=TaLow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Kikuchi = Asamiya ?!
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:32:21 GMT
Reply-To: tetsu@kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Organization: Kyoto Univ. dept. of Info. Sci. Tsuda Lab.

Hi! Here's the answer from Japan...

In article <mBFHPB7w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> vchan@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Victor Chan) writes:
 >Someone please quell/confirm this rumor that was mentioned to me.
 >	  'Haruhiko Mikimoto confirmed during Anime Expo that
 >	   Michitaka Kikuchi and Kia Asamiya were one and the
 >	   same person'

Hm, there must be a misunderstanding. As far as I know, it's incorrect.
Once they used to use the same pen-name, i.e. ASAMIA Kia!
They used to work together under the same name,
but KIKUCHI started his anime-works under his own name.
Now each of them is working on his own way.
So we can say that KIKUCHI Michitaka used to be ASAMIA Kia
(ASAMIA used to be ASAMIA, of course :-p)
but anyway they are not the same person now.

Sorry for my funny or terrible English.
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Date: 17 Aug 92 03:27:56 GMT
From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga,soc.culture.japan,aus.culture.ultimo
Subject: Japanese contemporary art at MCA (Sydney)
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Followup-To: rec.arts.manga



The Museum of Contemporary Art (Sydney) is currently hosting an exhibition
of Japanese contemporary art.  No such exhibition would be complete without
manga, and sure enough, it was there.

They had some volumes of manga attached by wires to a bench (in a booth
with a TV that was showing Japanese TV ads).  They had:
   vol. 11 of 'Yokohama Meibutsu OTOKO Katayama Gumi' (Noted Product of
     Yokohama, the Katayama Men Gang?).  This is a strange story about
     a fat, sunglassed, flu-masked thug, from Shonen Magazine.  
   vols. 2, 3 and 5 of Akira.
   one volume of something with lots of sex and violence.  (Sorry, I
     can't be more specific. ^_^)
   one volume of a mahjong manga.
   two identical (large, Y2800) volumes of 'Nihon Youkai [something]',
     a sort of illustrated book.  On each page there was a detailed
     illustration of a monster, and a long text description.

Overall, not a bad selection, IMHO.  There was mundane stuff, extreme
stuff, famous stuff, and a few bits and pieces.  It's a good opportunity
for people to see manga in the original format.

They also had books, lots of graphic design-type magazines (didn't
see Idea though), some large and technically impressive paintings,
and some installations (including digital counters which didn't use
zero because zero is "a western concept"!).  I found most of the
exhibits very interesting.  My only complaint is that there wasn't
enough.  
 

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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: More properties of Jusenkyou springs (Ranma 1/2)
Date: 22 Aug 92 14:11:52 GMT
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Originator: irsincla@uts.EDU.AU

takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi) writes:
 >Given that this is true, maybe it's a good thing Ranma hasn't gotten
 >back to the nannichuan spring yet...imagine what that would do to
 >Ranma-chan... :-)

The Nan-Nii-Chuan will make Ranma normal again (this has already been
demonstrated).

There is nothing whatsoever in this week's Shonen Sunday about the
anime ending.  (Doesn't mean it isn't, but...)  There was something
about the new film doing quite well, though.  The manga shows no
sign at all of ending, at least no new signs.

(Latest story does feature Ranma all on his own, with no supporting
characters, I think that's a first.  He got washed up on a private
beach, where this guy called Yohyou is looking for the girl whose
foot fits the footprint on the back of his head.  It ends with
Ranma about to be sacrificed, so maybe it will have a sudden ending. ^_^)


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: jwp@panix.com (JongWoo Park)
Subject: Re: fss
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 06:28:45 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Keywords: FSS, Mamoru Nagano, Amaterasu

In <175nutINN4b@agate.berkeley.edu> chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu writes:

>In article <1755lgINNs2d@agate.berkeley.edu> bl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Bo-Yi Lin) writes:

>Five Star Stories is a little difficult to understand unless read as a whole
>(easier to say than done), and even then it may take several re-read to get
>some idea of what's going on...

Does anyone think that FSS has some kind of cohisive plot that links every
single episodes together?  Well, you know, THE GRAND SCHEME.
I don't think so.  I think he's just making up as he goes and I don't
think it makes sense to try to fit everything together.  So I just drool
on the artworks.....
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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Ranma & Yawara, the end??
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 20:25:06 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia

Well, with Ranma and Yawara ending on TV next month (apparently
announced in the Kitty magazine, see r.a.a for more info), what is
going to happen to the mangas??

Especially since Ranma is "supposedly" ending "emotionally", it would
make it tough to continue the manga if the TV series ties up the story.

Anyone know what's going to happen on the manga front?

(Well, since the premise of Yawara was working towards the Barcelona
Olympics, I'm not surprised the series loses its "edge" with the Games
actually having taken place. :)

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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au (Iain Sinclair)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga,alt.manga
Subject: Gun Smith Cats #2, questions...
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:59:48 GMT
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Originator: irsincla@uts.EDU.AU


If you remember last time (Afternoon #9), Grey punched out Mini May
in front of a horrified Rally (+ Bean).  Anyway, I hear third-hand
that GSC vol.2 will be out in late September.  Which is really good
news if you like GSC, I guess. ^_^

Questions:

What's Angel Paradigm like?  Is vol.1 worth buying?

Which magazine did Grappler BAKI run in?  Who was the author?
(This is a judo [jujutsu?] manga which appealed to me a lot.
The main character has a really strange dog. ^_^)  I don't have
much information on this because I saw it in a bootleg.

What's the difference between "BAN!" and "DON!" when a character
appears?  (I think BAN is more sudden.)

Does anyone have any info on the Shin Majinden manga?  HH tells
me that there are at least 3 volumes out.  (There was an OAV
made of this, probably better known by its Battle Royal High School
title).

Any answers gratefully appreciated.


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From: sorflet@bnr.ca (Winston Sorfleet)
Subject: Re: video girl ai 5
Reply-To: sorflet@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:49:08 GMT

In article <170m8cINN7ak@agate.berkeley.edu>, wang@ocf.berkeley.edu (Albert Sze-Wei Wang) writes:
>
>I looked through VG Ai5 but couldn't find anymore problems with it than
>were in VG Ai6.  In all honesty there were more nude scenes in VG Ai6 
>than there were in VG Ai5.  I dunno...  This seems all too strange to me,
>the banning stuff that is.

Probably because of the "touching" scenes at the beginning of the volume.
A little H, but not as much as we've all seen elsewhere... heck, there isn't
even any actual sex before the little creep gets fried.
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From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Update
Date: 20 Aug 1992 03:33:05 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Distribution: world
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: SF Kinokuniya 08/19/92
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

Nothing new. No Intron Depot (though the claim is that SJ Kinokuniya got them
in, Shiro fans better grab'em while they're there), a couple copies of
Afternoon and that's about it.

Speaking of which, Taiho! and AMG will be released on video by Nov. & Dec.
respectively... Lookin' forward to those.

Compilers (black & white) duel it out in the baseball field. What's-his-face
from Taiwan's got another incomprehensivable story in Afternoon.
From: lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Benoy Koshy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: intron depot
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:07:20 GMT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

cbjuland@vax1.umkc.edu writes:

- Intron Depot is listed for $39.95 according to Dark Horse.  Yet Manga-chan (t
- new mail order company) list's the Japanese version for about $22.70.  I can'
- beleive Dark Horse will be charging almost $20.00 more for providing it in
- English.  (It's an art book, will there even be that much text???)
 
What's even worse is that Intron is already in English so Dark Horse is 
doing absolutely nothing and making $20.00 US for doing absolutely 
nothing.

Ben Koshy/Lone Wolf              lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
President of B.A.K.A.            Banzai Anime Klub of Alberta
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