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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Re: Image gets competition?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:04:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.145338.16764@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.050626.26445@sol.UVic.CA>, jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>> 
>Verry Interesting!  Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't all these people
>done work for Dark Horse sometime during their illustrious careers?  Well,
>maybe not Art Adams.
>-- 
>			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
>			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
>			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
>		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T

Actually Art Adams just finished doing the Full Color Godzilla Special.
Very nice art. Actually it is the best I have seen `zilla done. The
story was nothing hot and the price $4.25 Can for 48 pages was just
slightly steep.


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From: zeus@watserv.ucr.edu (Zeus)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Grendel -Warchild
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:52:15 GMT


Well, the only reason I bought Grendel is because everyone on the net was  
saying how good this book is/was.  I missed the first ones, so I decided to  
give warchild a chance...  sofar BIG dissappointemnt (espec. #3)  Matt is  
dragging this thing out beyond belief!

Is it just me?

Chris
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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Sandman: Darkness in Corinth (Small Spoiler)
Organization: International Supersquids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:44:54 GMT

In <1992Oct8.120401.6366@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:

> lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:



One of my more informational articles, I guess.

Spoiler for an upcoming issue follows



>>To use a hackeyed expression, he's baaaaaaccccckkkkkkkk!
>>
>>The Corinthian will be making an appearance in this story line. In fact,
>>I think he shows up in the next issue. Sounds like fun.  

>Back? I don't think so. I think we merely see him again.

????? As in we see him in flashback or as in he was never really gone?

Whatever. Here's the relevant blurbo preview:

"In Part 4 of Brief Lives, Sandman and Delirium continue their search for
 the the missing sibling Destruction. This issue features the return of
 the evil Corinthian and many strange dreams."

(I don't know why it's Sandman and not Dream or Morpheus.)

So how and why does the Corinthian return? I'd argue he was "gone" as 
Morpheus has control over his creations and we did see the body (a portion
of it anyway) in one of the last issues of Season. 

Now how will the Corinthian return? I think it would be fair to say we might
only see him in a flashback. No doubt, he was quite busy during Dream's
absence and this may have had some impact on the missing Endless. We did
get the flashback of Despair in the plague years so there's some precedent.

If the Corinthian has returned as an entity for this storyline, then how
is an important question. I'd assume only Dream has the ability to recreate
him. Did part of his sulking include the recreation of the Corinthian as
some sort of mean spirited act? I can see a younger Dream doing that, but
he does seem to have matured.

As others have pointed out, both Etain and the lawyer were thinking of
dreams when their lives were put in danger. Is it possible that someone
has taken control of part of Dream's realm while he's on the trip? If 
someone had this ability they may be able to reform the Corinthian.

Remember who was put in the chest with the remains of the Corinthian.
Are we sure that stopper was in tight? B}=

Of course, maybe Morpheus is just an international supervillain out
to take over the realms of the other Endless. See! The folx at Infinity,
Inc. were right all along. Oh what fools we've been. 
--
     Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
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    all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"
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From: mgq@inel.gov (Michael G McKellar)
Subject: Re: Legends of the Dark Knight #39 (no spoilers)
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 14:27:47 GMT

In article <Meq_c2q00awU01ikdU@andrew.cmu.edu> "Jonathan D. Lyness" <jl6e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>This is an _incredible_ issue. Seeing as how there hasn't been much
>discussion on it, I'd assume most people haven't read it, probably
>because they don't pick up the title regularly. I've never purchased
>LoDK myself, until this issue, but the intriguing plot previewed in DC
>Releases made me curious about it (and extra thanks to Abhijit Khale,
>whose "mini-review" prompted me to buy it).
>
>I really don't want to spoil too much about the story if you haven't
>read it, but I strongly urge everyone to give this issue a chance. The
>plot is inventive, and the characterizations are superb, of a level I
>rarely see in any mainstream comics. This is (IMHO, of course) a
>Watchmen-quality story (and to me, there can be no higher praise!).
>
>
>Jon



I agree that this issue is very intriging.  I was quite suprised that
I liked this issue because I usually don't like Bryan Talbot's art.
I didn't care for the Sandman issues he pencilled.  However I liked
both the art and the storyline of this Legends.  I've collected
all of the issues of Legends so far.  There have been some stories
I didn't like, but most of the stories I've really enjoyed.  I'm 
looking forward to how they will resolve the current storyline.


Mike McKellar (mgq@inel.gov)
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From: friedman@ganymede.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark "Crimson" Friedman)
Subject: WeaselNews (wn) temporarily serving alt.comics.lnh
Organization: NAIVE - New And Improved Virtual Environment
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:09:22 GMT

I have an experimental news server on boa.cis.ohio-state.edu port 4321
that's serving up alt.comics.lnh articles.  Telnet there and check it
out...and alpha-test it for me at the same time!  May as well...

							- Mark

[please, no goofy telnet questions: if it ain't BSD, I don't know it]

-- 
Mark "Klone Crimson" Friedman is friedman@cis.ohio-state.edu .................
"There is nothing former   "Beat poets,    "If you put a hungry ferret in your
 about King Crimson."       not children."  trousers, he'll run around..."
 - Robert Fripp, 5/11/90    - anonymous     - Nigel Tufnel (Spinal Tap)
From: breitzsp@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Veitch Animal Man
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:40:48 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <djung.718577688@sfu.ca>, djung@fraser.sfu.ca (Derek Shew Lon Jung) writes:
> I've been recently catching up on the early Morrison and Milligan Animal
> Man issues (some excellent stories in there, by the way).  Since I've been
> picking up the recent Delano issues also, I'm just wondering what's the
> general opinion on the issues in-between, done by Tom Veitch (I think --
> it's not Rick, is it?).  I've heard from a couple of source that they're
> nowhere near as good as those by Morrison and Milligan....Is this true?
> Are there *any* that are worth picking up?  Thanks in advance....
> 
I thought that they were both very sub-standard stories.  I didn't like them
at all.  The new Storyline I am enjoying.  I am glad they were able to 
bring the title back to what I believe is good writing.

Scotty B
From: jz1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (James D. Zelenka)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Legends of the Dark Knight #39 (no spoilers)
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:14:11 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I, too, was very impressed with the most recent issue. The past several
storylines left me debating whether or not to drop the title; nothing
truly great had come out of it since Prey, and stories like Faith,
Flyer, and the Batmite left me cold. Now I remember why I liked LOTDK
:-), and I can't wait for the next issue...

-jim
jz1j@andrew.cmu.edu
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Life, the Marvel Universe and everything
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:41:43 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct7.111527.20884@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mcollins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Killans - First And Last And Always) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.080553.14986@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim)) writes:
>>In article <mumble> j_fitzge@oz.plymouth.edu (Jesse L. Fitzgerald)  writes:
>>
>>>	Marvel has once again, made too many characters and henceforth
>>>too many comic books. [etc]
>>
>>Which makes one wonder (or dread) what next summer is going to be
>>like, since both Marvel and DC are supposedly going to be using their
>>summer annuals as springboards for dozens of new titles (and
>>presumably dozens of new characters as well)....
>>
>Dat's right, according to ComicsInternational (probably *the* best non-fanboy
>comics magazine around) each of next year's 25 Marvel annuals will be a self-
>contained story (ie no crossovers or 'family groupings') which will introduce a
>new character (hero or villain). The push is being called 'The Superstars Of
>Tomorrow', and is designed "to roll out some of the characters that [Marvel's
>creators] have been nurturing in the backs of thir minds" (Gruenwald).
>
>Get ready for more Wolverine-Feral-a-likes NOW!!!

Look at it on the bright side:  no cheesy annual cross-overs next year,
so you don't have to buy all the annuals (or possibly even any of them),
and the majority of these characters will probably soon become only
tiny fragments in Obscure Trivia Lad's memory.

Well, I can hope, can't I?

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP000)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Cyber Force >>#1<< and Youngblood (Yeech!) >>#3<< are coming!
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:41:30 GMT
Organization: McGill University

That's right, they're on their way to your local comic book shop.
Still no sign of WildCATs #2 yet though.

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From: rezabek1037@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: cerebus 162
Date: 13 Oct 92 13:31:32 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

> : karen williams:
> : ...we see Astoria in chains on one side of a double-page spread, I assume
> : Cirin on the other side, and Cerebus wielding a sword emerging from what
> : looks suspiciously like a vagina in the middle. On the last page he disappears
> : with a ...um...bang. So, given that this story is called "Mothers and 
> : Daughters," and that Cirin is an aardvark and thinks mothers are the best
> : things in the world, and Astoria was pregnant at one time but we've never
> : seen the baby, and everything else that's going on, what could Sim possibly
> : mean by this? Assuming, of course, that I'm not completely off the wall.
> : 
> I thought of this, too, but I wasn't able to come up with any kind of
> possible explanation for it. But, yeah, it does look like something
> might be going on on those two pages.
> 
> -C

hmmm... granted it's been, seemingly, quite some time since Cerebus Had His Way
with Astoria, but... maybe Most Holy should have pulled out... ?

!rez
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (DICKENJD)
Subject: Comic oriented FTP site?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: FTP, FAQ
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:53:00 GMT


	Are there any comic-oriented ftp sites? This is probably a FAQ, 	so send me responses by e-mail. Thanks a lot!


J. David Dickens . . . dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Valor's name destroys time/space continuum
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:47:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.130940.7319@iscsvax.uni.edu> levin6706@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>Since Valor is basically Keith Giffen's baby, I would imagine DC will say
>that whoever wrote the issue of STARMAN to which you refer, simply screwed up.

You mean the issue of Starman dialogued by Peter David and plotted by Keith
Giffen?

"Your foot. Your mouth. Go arrange a meeting for them." --Diane Duane
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
From: salley@niktow.canisius.edu (David Salley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Keywords: Endless, animals, relations
Date: 11 Oct 92 14:25:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Canisius College, Buffalo NY. 14208

Should Delirum's frogs be included as "Companions of the Endless"(TM?)

                                                       - David   

Disclaimer  : A society that needs disclaimers has too many lawyers.
Internet    : salley@niktow.cs.canisius.edu
USnail-net  : David P. Salley, 136 Shepard Street, Buffalo, New York 14212-2029
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From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: CYBER FORCE #1
Date: 11 Oct 1992 10:17:52 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu
Keywords: typical


 > Well, maybe it's good for *his* stuff.  Let's see...[fetches comic]
 > these characters are too damn flexible for the bulk they have (see
 > cover, guy on right (we get his name?), flexing arm)...p18,panel3:
 > one of our greatest kicks was to see Wolver-I MEAN, "Ripclaw"
 > suddenly gain 4-foot claws (neat trick)!  And this is just a quick
 > glance...
 
I disagree.  I thought the art was impressive.  You clearly like nothing
about superhero comics as it is, so why do you bother to review this one?
Superhero comic art is all about exaggeration.  The claws growing struck
me as goofy, too, but that was about all; and then again, we don't know
if the claws are SUPPOSED to be growing yet.  Maybe they are.
 
I didn't think Ripclaw was Wolverine ripoff.  I mean, clearly he was the
standard guy-with-claws, which seems to be becoming as much of a standard
character for supergroups as a strong guy.  But he didn't have the 
personality of Wolverine; he lacked that insufferable cockier-than-thou
attitude.  I thought all the characters seemed fairly human.  I liked
the addition of the mechanic-guy, and TIMMIE, and the cute robots, who
weren't engineered to be kewl in any way.
 
The bottom line?  The silvestris are doing the X-Men.  There are mutants,
and themutants are hated and hunted, and all that.  But I find this book
to have more of the feel of the X-Men from before the Jim Lee era.  THAT
X-Men doesn't exist any more; but maybe it does here, in CYBERFORCE.
That wouldn't bother me.  So maybe it is kinda standard superhero team
fare.  The presentation is superior.  And I don't BUY the rest of the
superhero books... so I may just give this new one a chance.  I can see
its having potential, moreso than the other Image books I've seen.  The
Liefeld and Lee team books seem so wrapped up in that ultra-macho
invincible hero shit.  CYBERFORCE seems to have left itself open for
some interesting interactions, and straight old-fashioned adventure.  I
never would have believed it of an Image book to date, but I really sorta
dug it.
       
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Albert Elmostein)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: galleries and sigils
Organization: Master of Time and Space but Mostly Physics
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:13:26 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Oct9.032325.16179@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway) writes:
> In article <1992Oct8.182730.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Lake Elmo, MN) writes:
>>Dr. Elmo needs an issue number, please.
> 
> Dr.? Damn, Elmo must have *really* done well on that Master's exam...
> 
        Actually, I hold a doctorate in Jaywalking (UoE '83).
	
>>He's only vaguely omniscient.
> 
> Is that omniscient in your vagueness, or vague about omniscience?

	Yes.
-- 
"Love is a grave mental disease."--Plato                                       
"Plato is a bore."--Nietzsche                                                  
"Nietzsche was stupid and abnormal."--Leo Tolstoy                              
"I'm not going to climb into the ring with Tolstoy"--Ernest Hemingway          
"Hemingway was a jerk."--Harold Robbins                                        
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
From: mason
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Image gets competition?
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:46:07 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Oct15.050626.26445@sol.UVic.CA>
jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
 
>From Comics Journal # 153 (reprinted without permission):
>
>        Sources close to [The Comics Journal] have confirmed recent rumours
>        of a new creators' imprint called _Dinosaur_, whose founding members
>        include Frank Miller, Walt Simonson, John Byrne, Art Adams, and
>        Geoffrey Darrow.  The core group of five has also sounded out other
>        creators, including Alan Moore, Mike Mignola and Chris Claremont,
>        about joining the group.
 
Sounds too good to be true.  How long can they expect to stay in
business, if they write books that appeal to an audience as
discriminating as this one?  8)
 
 
"If you're not having fun, you're doing something wrong ...
... or getting better grades than I am."
 
-- mason
From: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: PAD.  Is it really him?
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:31:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <70615@hydra.gatech.EDU> jd53@prism.gatech.EDU (DE LA COVA,JORGE) writes:
>Is the PAD who posts to this newsgroup Peter David, of (recently)
>Hulk fame?
<<GASP>>  Well, who else would it be???  

Actually, it's Peter David of Hulk, X-Factor, Star Trek, and Spider-Man 2099 
fame's evil twin brother!  :>

Seriously:  It _is_ Peter David, writer of Hulk and X-Factor and Star Trek and
SM 2099 and I, for one, think that we are extremely lucky to have access to one
of the people who writes for us.  Besides that, I like reading his posts.  They
usually have me rolling on the floor laughing.  (Which gets me weird stares, 
because I'm using a computer lab for all this stuff I post!!!)

Any questions?

__NOVA__
_______________________________________________________________________________

"Why are you mumbling?"
"Because I've grown fangs, and if I open my mouth too wide, you'll see them."
		--SM 2099
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From: esther@rayssd.ssd.ray.com (Esther A. Paris)
Subject: Looking for a cartoonist/cartoon
Summary: Please help me find this cartoonist or cartoon! (EMAIL please!)
Keywords: Something-Chambers, Sign Language Interpreting, Church, searching
Organization: Raytheon Equipment Division, Marlboro, MA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:58:18 GMT

Hi everyone!  I have a funny cartoon that is about a zillionth
generation copy.  It has apparently been enlarged, copied,
faxed, reduced, enlarged, etc... to the point where it's hard
to read the cartoon.  (But once you read it, you get a good
laugh.)  It's a view of a church from the second row of the
choir.  You can see two choir members whispering to each other,
a priest giving a very serious sermon, the sign language interpreter
and the congregants' faces.  Does anyone recognize a cartoon of
this nature by my description?  If so, does anyone have a clean
copy of said cartoon that they'd snailmail to me?  Or, MUCH BETTER
YET, does anyone know how I could find the cartoonist?  It seems
like the signature on my copy says something like one of the
following:

	Horton- Chambers
	Norton- Chambers     (The name (whatever it is) is written 
	Marten- Chambers      on two lines.)
	Haston- Chambers

But then again, after a trillion generations of photocopying, it's
pretty hard to make out the signature.  There is no date on the cartoon
as far as I can see.

Any ideas welcome!  Please email me at the address below   |
as I don't read this newsgroup.                            |
                                                           V
Esther Paris, Raytheon EDL, Marlborough, MA   esther@demand.ed.ray.com

also, please repost this to a more appropriate newsgroup if you can think
of one.  I'm basically guessing about the best way to conduct my search
for this cartoonist/cartoon.  (And if there's a distinction between the
word cartoon and the word comic that I don't know, please don't flame me
for it.  Like I said, I'm guessing and for me this is a once-in-a-lifetime
kind of search.  It's a one-panel visual joke, but it's brilliant in my
opinion.)
-- 
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