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From: rege@bongo.Berkeley.EDU (Ashutosh G. Rege)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Notable 49er cuts
Date: 1 Sep 1992 08:56:07 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
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In article <1992Sep1.052500.20377@menudo.uh.edu> st1ge@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:
>I'm surprised that Harry Sydney was cut.  He's the heart and soul of the
>special team.  May be the Niners will re-sign him after they put Montana
>on the IR tomorrow.  Todd Bowles, the starting SS last season, was also
>cut.  That leaves Dana Hall, Thane Gash and Dave Wittmore as the only
>safeties.  Darryl Pollard was cut but he may be re-signed since Kevin
>Lewis is out.  Also cut was Joe Prokop, that leaves the Niners without
>a punter.  They should take a look at Maury Buford (ex-Bear).  
>
>Edward Hui


   If you believe the papers, the plan always was to let Sydney go and 
re-sign him after a lot of movement to IR, namely Montana, Kevin Lewis, 
Darin Jordan, and perhaps Dexter Carter, Mitch Donahue and Ron Lewis.
If Sydney signs elsewhere (a low probability since he refused to leave
when on plan B) Marc Logan might be able to step in. Sydney would
surely be missed on special teams though.

I was really surprised that they let Pollard go. Though he often
got burnt early on in his career, he really came on strong in 90 only
to be sidelined by injury in 91. Apparently, the 49ers wanted him
to take a hefty paycut (part of the "dismantle the Niners" drive) so
he might well sign with some other team more desperate (is that possible?)
than the Niners at corner. 

I hope Prokop disappears and never comes back. 

Ashu Rege
From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:57:54 GMT
Subject: Re: KANSAS CITY/BUFFALO: TOLD YOU!
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
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>This I agree with.  K.C. will beat the Raiders, and a lot of other teams
>this year.  Another playoff birth is waiting...

Not.


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From: joseph@gkcl.ists.ca (Joseph A. Beernink)
Subject: Re: NFL Realignment
Reply-To: joseph@gkcl.UUCP (Joseph A. Beernink)
Organization: y
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 12:32:31 GMT

In article <ex4eziy@Unify.Com> tsv@dbrus.Unify.Com (Tim Vannaman) writes:
>>- Would you be in favor of realignment? yes
>
>>- Why or why not?
>   Several Reasons:
>   1. I'm tired of the same 'ol divisions 
>   2. They should have it geographically correct.
>
>>- If yes, what would you like to see in the ways of realignment?
>
>NFC East:       NFC Central:            NFC West:
> Redskins          Bears                  49ers
> Giants            Vikings                Rams
> Eagles            Saints                Cardinals
> Falcons           Packers                Cowboys
> Bucs              Bengals
>
>
>AFC East:       AFC Central:            AFC West:
>  Jets             Browns                 Raiders
>  Pats             Steelers               Chargers
>  Dolphins         Oilers                 Broncos
>  Bills            Chiefs                 Seahawks
>  Lions            Colts
   ^^^^^
What in the world are you thinking?  Moving the Lions to the AFC?
No way!  Break up division rivalries like Det - Chicago, Det - Green Bay?
The Lions belong in the NFC Central.  And that's that.

>
>>- Do you think the NFL would do it? no
>
>Tim.
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From: behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Re: Has Brian Blades signed yet??
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:52:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep02.155515.27624@bnr.ca> chipl@crchh427.BNR.CA (Chip Lewis) writes:
>Could anyone tell me if Seahawk WR Brian Blades has signed yet
>or if he figures to play this week? I appreciate the info.
>
>-chip
>
>

  Brian Blades has not signed yet.  The Seahawks organization and Ken Behring
are still too cheap to pay one of their best players what he deserves.  I 
haven't heard anything new on the Blades/Seahawks situation, but I think that
the Hawks will trade him for a draft pick.  :(  :(

  IMHO screw the draft pick and sign blades NOW!!!!  The Hawks cannot afford to
lose Blades's consistency, experience, talent, and leadership.  

With regards,

Behzad
From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Hilgenberg Trade Official
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:18:17 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

mocnik@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com writes:

>Hilgenberg Update
>-----------------

>The trade is done, according to WGN - Chicago and WKNR - Cleveland, 
>Jay Hilgenberg to Cleveland for a conditional 4th round draft choice in 1993. 

>If Hilgenberg plays at his previous performance level, 
>the 4th round pick changes to a 2nd round pick. There are no details what 
>"previous performance level" is defined as. 

AAAARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just what the Bears need - to get rid of a proven offensive
lineman.  I sure hope Jerry Fontenot can handle the job full-
time...

A "conditional fourth round pick" for a Pro-Bowl center?  I would
have hoped for more.
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From: wyborsr@wl.com (Russ Wyborski)
Subject: Bucs coach
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:51:05 GMT


Does anyone know who the new coach of Tampa Bay is? Not that it will make
a whole lot of difference.
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Buffalo loses another player on Defense
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:00:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

As of yesterday Defensive End Leon Seals of the Buffalo Bills will be
a Philadelphia Eagle. Trade consists of an undisclosed 1993 draft pick.
Last year Leon Seals recorded 155 tackles and 5 sacks on a defense ranked
next to last in the league. Now he will be trying his best to fill the
gap left by Jerome Brown.

One has to question what the general manager is thinking. The Defense is
already looked upon as one of the worst in the league, 27. And now they
are about to start the season without three of their defensive starters 
from last year. SS Leonard Smith: cut from team, CB Kirby Jackson: unsigned
and DE Leon Seals: Traded.

Offensively they cut FB Jamie Mueller and still have TE Keith McKeller
unsigned. 

This is not how a football team prepares to repeat as conference champs.
I would not expect to much more than a playoff birth from this team.
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From: dls@achilleus.austin.ibm.com (David Skeen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Sackers
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:14:06 GMT
	<1992Aug31.150430.20070@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
Reply-To: David Skeen <dls@dce.austin.ibm.com>
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM Austin (PSP)

> What planet were you on the last 10 years ? 8{D.

That's too harsh; sack stats haven't been available until pretty
recently.  Something tells me that Deacon Jones would be giving LT a
run for his money if we had Jones' numbers.
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From: jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske)
Subject: thank you thank you thank you
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:46:56 GMT
Keywords: thanks

I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who's
been posting local news tidbits on their local teams.
Special thanks to those that have oberved teams at training
camps (and nightspots) and given us their interesting insights.

May the (real) games begin!

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programmer, and all-around good guy, glad to be back in Minnesota,
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From: v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Top 5 Defenses?
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:50:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I'm curious about peoples view on the best DEEE's this year.

I'd say:
1. Houston
2. Denver
3. Chicago
4. Washington
5. New Orleans

Any thoughts?	Opinions?

T. Mac
GOOOOOOOOOO-O-0-O-0-O  BILLS, BULLS, BISONS and ,er, well, Sabres I guess!
From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: This season surprises.
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:47:41 GMT
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington

Derek_Juntunen@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Derek Juntunen) writes:

>Who does everyone think this seasons big surprise will be?
>Here are my picks:
>1.  Minnesota
>2.  Tampa Bay
>3.  NY Jets
>Any thought?
>-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

I hardly think that you can consider the Jets to be a surprise, unless 
you mean that they will NOT perform well at all. Most major publications
are picking them second in the AFC East behind the Bills.

Minnesota will bear watching, but I think they will be stuck at 6-8 wins,
probably more like 8.

Tampa bay will more likely be at 5-7 wins... IMHO

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From: chipl@crchh427.BNR.CA (Chip Lewis)
Subject: Has Brian Blades signed yet??
Reply-To: chipl@crchh427.BNR.CA (Chip Lewis)
Organization: "Bell Northern Research - Richardson Texas"
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 15:55:15 GMT

Could anyone tell me if Seahawk WR Brian Blades has signed yet
or if he figures to play this week? I appreciate the info.

-chip
From: larry@aecom.yu.edu (Larry Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Giants update
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:07:34 GMT
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine

Holdouts:   Banks signed a one year contract for $1.1 million and is back 
            in camp.

            Howard is getting close to terms with the Giants and is expected
            to be signed this week.

            No news on Moore. 

Injuries:   Hoss reported to Manhattan's Hospital for Special Surgery for
            further evaluation on his hip and back. He will not play against
            Pittsburgh. Time will tell if he is there for the 9ers.

            Reasons has a sprained ligament in his knee. Out 2-3 weeks but no
            surgery needed.

            Meggett has a sprained left ankle & will not play against
            Pittsburgh.  Should be ready for the 9ers.

            Guyton and McCaffrey both returned to practice.

Cuts:       DL: Clint James, Dave Davis, and Lubo Zizakovic
            RB: Torrey Wright
            LB: Kevin Carroll, Mike Peloskey, and Scott Van Bellinger
            K:  David Cool
            OL: Bob Dressel, Chris Dyko, and Mike Kiselak
            WR: Greg Taylor and Nate Singleton
            S:  Anthony Prior

IR:         WR: Millard Hamilton (knee)
            RB: Charles Young (pinched nerve in neck)

Go Giants!
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From: bcd@fang.att.com (Brendan Dwyer)
Subject: Re: This season surprises.
Organization: AT&T Tax Systems Development, Maitland FL
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:34:15 GMT

From article <Derek_Juntunen.07id@abcd.Houghton.MI.US>, by Derek_Juntunen@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Derek Juntunen):
> Who does everyone think this seasons big surprise will be?
> Here are my picks:
> 
> 1.  Minnesota
> 2.  Tampa Bay
> 3.  NY Jets
> 
> Any thought?
> 
> -- Via DLG Pro v0.995
> 
I've got to agree with you about the Jet and Bucs.  I think folks are going
to be very surprised by the Bucs this year, especially their defense.  A lot
of the games they used to lose by 1-3 points are now going to be victories.
Those who disagree are invited to flame away. I'm a Buc fan and I can take
it. :)

Brendan Dwyer

Go Raiders!
Go Bucs!
From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Dallas Roster *oops*
Date: 1 Sep 1992 18:43:51 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org

Well, apparently I made a second goof on the roster, 
including Daluiso instead of giving him the axe.  That 
means that if Haley and Tolbert and Novacek have a roster
exemption that I am now two players short of 47.  I think
that it means that I am wrong on the exemptions.

I looked back on the cuts and never saw Mickey Pruitt among 
the cut players, so he might have made the team.  If so,
sorry Mickey...

If you didn't see my last correction, Irvin shouldn't be
onthe list either...

ice
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Joe (Toast?) Montana
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:25:27 GMT
Reply-To: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsc.csd.mu.edu

In article <tokuno.714950439@milton>, tokuno@milton.u.washington.edu (Ken Tokuno) writes:
>donehoo@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Doyle Donehoo) writes:
>
>>Remember those of you who said Joe was Toast? That Joe was 
>>washed up? That he was outta here??
>
>>Well, toast is served. Eat your words.
>
>>Joe Montana was throwing in practice today, and will start this Friday.
>
>>The rest of the league and their fans can go back to their regular
>>program of cowering and shaking when number 16 hits the field. :-) Hee hee.
>>Joe is BACK! Now the 49ers are at least 3 deep in great QBs.
>
>>"Is number 16 still on the field? Then it's not over yet."
>>	-Collingsworth, when his team was ahead in the Superbowl
>>         in the last minutes of the game.
>
>>(Now, lets see how Joe does.)


I read today in Chicago Sun Times that joe is upset over
placing him in IR because he feels that he can play/start before
the month is over and also because of the fact that he cannot practice
with his teammates. He it seems is so upset that he has (and I quote'
from the paper here) 'asked to be let off his last year in contract'.

Well, IMO it was a good decision for Joe that he is on IR. 
He gets to completely heal, so that he will be fresh by the time 
he starts which should be in the 5th game if he is out of IR.

Also Youing would be more comfortable for at least the first
4 games and then IMO his performance will improve.  SF   may
then well be something like 3-1 and there will be not any 
play-off pressure (Though Joe does well under pressure) so that
Joe can ease in for his first game or two (remember that he last
played a couple of years ago) and then go in full gear leading
the team into play-offs whhere he is the ideal QB to lead the team.

Anyway this should be an interesting series 
regardless of who wins.





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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: FTP Site for complete 1992 NFL schedule?
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:12:34 GMT

fineberg@wupost.wustl.edu (Charles M. Fineberg) writes:
>  As the subject says, does anyone know where I can get a complete
>NFL schedule for this year?

Could this be a joke?  Guy from wustl.edu asks about FTP sites?

The following message shoula appear tomorrow, but here it is anyway:

=====================================================================

There is a bunch of NBA and NFL data -- stats, records, game scores,
schedules (INCLUDING 1992/93 schedules!) -- available for public FTP
on wuarchive.wustl.edu.  (Also known as ftp.wustl.edu, internet
address 128.252.135.4) You can access the data through anonymous FTP.
To do so, type:
	ftp wuarchive.wustl.edu
and then enter "anonymous" as the user-id, and your e-mail address
as the password.  Once in there, switch to the directory of your
choice.  For NFL scores, the directory is
	/pub/nfl-scores
For NBA stuff (so much more than just scores), it's
	/doc/misc/nbastats/facts
Both directories contain a README file, which will tell you more
about the available data.

The details of the FTP program may be system-dependent.  If in
doubt, consult your system administrators.  Enjoy!

--Gidi

PS:  Lots of thanks to Washington University at St. Louis.
From: etryon@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Earl Tryon )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Who is the Oiler kicker?
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:48:04 GMT
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University

Who will be the kicker for Houston Oilers?

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From: al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFL Realignment
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:22:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Brentwood BBS Harrison, NY  914-835-7898
Reply-To: al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo) 

>- Would you be in favor of realignment?

probably not

>- Why or why not?

Wouldn't want to see traditional rivalries broken up.

>what would you like to see in the ways of realignment?

If you are going to do it, you might as well create new conferences
as well.

Eastern Football Conference

Atlantic Division       Southern Division     Central Division

New England              Atlanta              Indianapolis
Jets                     Miami                Buffalo
Giants                   Tampa Bay            Cleveland
Philadelphia             New Orleans          Cincinnati
Washington                                    Pittsburgh


Western Football Conference

Left Coast Division      Midwest Division     Cowboy Division

Seattle                  Chicago              Houston
San Francisco            Green Bay            Dallas
Rams                     Minnesota            Phoenix
Raiders                  Detroit              Kansas City
San Diego                                     Denver

But of course the NFL would not go for these divisions.
The Atlantic division does not have a dome, or a 
warm weather site.
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Dallas *iced Notes*
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:45:51 GMT

In article <21063@optima.cs.arizona.edu> dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal) writes:

   In article <1992Aug26.001310.11281@aero.org> mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw) writes:
   >
   >So, what should Dallas get for Novacek.  His status as a veteran makes him 
   >worth less considering that free agency is just around the corner.  He would 
   >be eligible in its first year.  Still, I think that Novacek is worth a
   >#1 and a #3. 

   This is SO stupid I will not even think about responding - i am sure
   someone else would.  Oh, you meant the #1 and #3 special at McDonalds,
   right?  I see.  


Cowboy-basher.  Great responce, though.

Bill


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From: tom@vexcel.com (Tom Baltzer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Broncos/Ricky Nattiel
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:55:07 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder, CO

In article <1992Aug26.153555.10863@leland.Stanford.EDU> blokhead@leland.Stanford.EDU (Darren Pakying Lum) writes:
>Just noticed Nattiel was released by Tampay Bay.
>I've been wondering for several seasons what 
>happened with him and Denver.  He was a 1st rounder
>and very good his 1st year.  Why did the Bucs release
>him and why did the Broncos trade him?  Any possibility
>of Denver picking him back up since they are thin at WR?
>
>Thanks,
>Darren
>
Nattiel broke his kneecap 2 or 3 seasons ago.  At the time
it was thought that he would not return to football.  He 
proved them wrong, but really lost a big step on his previous
self as a result of the injury.  He still has some kind of screw
in his kneecap to this day.  I assume Tampa cut him because he
just isn't fast enough and probably couldn't make up for it in
his knowledge of the system, as he was able to in Denver.  

I think the main reason why Denver cut him is because they got
a bunch of up and comming talent, (Russell, Marshal), and they
felt that veterans Jackson, Johnson, and Young would be sufficient
experience for the regular season.

I wouldn't be surprised in the least if Denver picks him up.
He may not like the idea that much though.

Tom
Broncos Fanatic.
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Steeler starting QB - official?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:41:03 GMT

In article <IedVj6e00WBNQ1fA4F@andrew.cmu.edu> Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>On 02-Sep-92 in Steeler starting QB - offic..
>user htilney@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>>Has Pittsburgh's starting quarterback formally been announced? 
>>It seemed pretty evident that it would be O'Donnell. 
>
>Yes, Coach Cowher named Neil as the starting QB.

I came across a picture of Coach Cowher in an NFL annual.   He looks,
to me, to be a real young guy.  I thought he looked younger than Dave
Shula did because Dave has his father's intense look at least. Exact-
ly how young IS Bill Cowher?   Have the veteran players taken to him?
Are Coach Cowher and Coach Shula the youngest pair of head coaches to
coach in the same division in modern NFL history?  The Bengal-Steeler
games should prove to be interesting this season.
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