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From: camlau@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (**bj**)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Dream Bike #2: S-works steel
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:58:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep15.063730.19609@colorado.edu>, apuzzo@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (Tony Apuzzo) writes...
>In article <5812@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> broadley@lrdc5 (Bill Broadley) writes:
>>Got a new Dream bike, the last post seemed to create some interesting
>>discussions....
>>Mostly Suntour Xc-Pro (micro-drive) with a Specialized Ti seat, Ti pedals, 
>>Ti headset (rollers instead of bearing for the bottom races).  Specialized 
>>stem, seatpost, AL handlebars, kevlar tires.  14/15 spokes w/ alloy nipples.
>Umm, my Steel has thinwall chromoly bars, steel headset,
>light-but-steel pedals everything else matches your description.
>>Grease-gaurd hubs, and BB.  Bike reported weighs in about 24.5 lb's which is
>>the same I heard for the MB-0.  Hopefully the Microdrive saves weight that
>>specialized invested in a more durable frame.

What is the difference between this year's ('91) stumpjumper-pro and the
S-works steel?  Seems to me the only difference is the headset (the
stumpjumper-pro has the XC-pro/GG headset instead of the Specialized half
roller bearing job), and the titanium pedals and seat rails on the S-works.
Both the '91 stumpjumper-pro and the S-works are made with Tange-prestige.
> 
>>
>I bought an S-Works Steel.....
>.........I weigh 205lbs and beat my bike regularly (4-10
>hours single-track and ~30 miles on road every week)  I'll tell you how
>well it holds up long term when I get there.  The 11-24 cassette is a
>bit too tall for my tastes, i'd prefer a 12-28.  The rims are still
>true (Wheelsmith spokes ya know.)

I agree.  For a narrow rim, they wheels have held up exceptionally
well on my bike.  I also agree that the 11-24 cassette is a bit
tall.  I'd prefer an eight speed hybrid cassette made from the
two outer cogs of the microdrive and the inner big cogs from a 
standard suntour powerflo xc-pro cassette to give 11-28.

**bj**
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: shiba@riffnique.csd.sgi.com (Rich Shiba)
Subject: Scott Unishock for sale
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:49:09 GMT

	Scott Unishock suspension fork
	$90
	<1 year old

	1" steerer tube
	medium length (7"), should fit 18"-20" frames

	These are a great way to get into suspension on
	your current bike -- light, low maint, and cheap!!
	give me a call if interested...

	Rich Shiba
	(415)390-1856
	shiba@csd.sgi.com 
Newsgroups: uiuc.classifieds,rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles
From: bradley@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (David K. Bradley)
Subject: Wanted: used Yakima mounts
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Distribution: il
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 02:29:30 GMT

No longer using that Yakima roof rack you bought a while back?  Read on.

Wanted: two standard model Yakima bike mount kits.  These are the ones with
the fork mount in the front and the short wheel tray in the back.  Will also
consider Short Roof Line (SRL) kits.  If the price is right I might also be
interested in some front wheel carriers and a standard width fairing.  Leave
message at 351-3168 or email to bradley@csrd.uiuc.edu.

(Actually, if the price is *really* good I might be interested a windsurfer
mount, mast attachment, and "clone" pad too.)
--
	David Bradley                bradley@csrd.uiuc.edu
	Center for Supercomputing Research and Development
	University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: wells@zach.fit.edu (James M. Wells)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Headlight Advice Sought
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:50:47 GMT
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

I have been using a Velo-Lux rechargable system for about a year.
It is excellent for my commuting needs.
I have ordering information...email if you need it.

-- 
James M. Wells, Florida Institute of Technology
150 W. University Blvd., Melbourne, FL 32901. +1 407 768 8000 x7285
wells@zach.fit.edu
From: dchou@husc8.harvard.edu (David Chou)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Back Wheel Needed...
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:39:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.dchou.716265579

Hello folx.  I know very little about bicycles...all I know is that
last week, as I parked my bike in Flushing, NY, my rear wheel was
stolen.  My bike was an old TREK racing bike, with rather narrow
tires.  I know this is not terribly descriptive, but I really
don't know how to describe what I need.  I would appreciate anyone
having anything close to what I need getting in contact with me, and
I can get them more information.  Oh, maybe this will help...I am
5'9", and I think that bike goes up to my inseam (30").  Thanks.

							-Dave
 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: ango@pomona.claremont.edu
Subject: news
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 7 Sep 92 21:23:30 PDT

I'm looking for a front derailleur for my oversized (trek 8500) mtb, as well as 
clipless pedals and bar ends.
If any of you have any to sell, Email me at: in%"ango@pomona.claremont.edu"
I'd really like to get this bike on the road.
		THanks
			Andre



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From: laymon@midway.crd.ge.com (Marc A. Laymon)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: opinions/test ride wanted: Tour easy & Linear recumbents
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:02:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: GE R & D

Having just returned from a nine day bike trip where I spent upto
7.5 hours per day on my bike seat, my interest in investigating
recumbents has been rekindled.

I am particularly interested in the Linear and Tour Easy
recumbents.  Since dealers of either brand seem to be scarce
around here, is there anyone in netland within a 2-3 hour drive
of the Albany-Schenectady area of New York who owns either type
of bike would be willing to let me try a short test ride ?

Also, anyone having any comments pro or con on either type of
bike ?
  Marc Laymon			GE Research & Development   	
				Schenectady, NY
  laymon@oceana.crd.ge.com	  
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: gcarter!gcarter (George Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Recommendations needed for Shaw's Lightweight Cycles
Keywords: shaws
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:13:44 PDT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SFBAC

The problem with Shaw's is that they are oriented toward
short-term business relationships.  After 12 years of use on
my bike the fork fatigued and broke.  I took it to Shaw's
because the original dealer had gone out of business and I
could see he had a metal lathe in case the steerer tube 
of the replacement fork needed to be taken down a little for
the headset.  The problem was that Terry Shaw sized me
up as someone who does his own repairs ( I do except for 
things that take tools I don't have like a metal lathe).  He
was afraid I would take the free fork and install it myself,
so when it came in he decided my old headset was bad, chose a
new headset of a different type for me (without consulting me),
installed it and presented me with the bill.  This irresponsible
and unethical business conduct is counter-productive.  In an 
attempt to make sure he took in a few more dollars in the 
short-term will cost him many times that amount since I will
divert future business to others.  As you might guess, this shop
is located next to an expensive university to supply new 
customers since the business strategy is to discourage long-term
business.
From: chris@carnival.lbl.gov (Chris Moll)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Hyperglide chain replacement: suggestions wanted
Keywords: n
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:00:40 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, California
NNTP-Posting-Host: carnival.lbl.gov

Keith Erskine writes:
>In rec.bicycles, msw10@nepenthe.as (Michael S. Wong) writes:
>
>>I've found that both a Sedis SL and a Campy-Rohloff shift a HG cassette better
>>than an HG-70, HG-90, or HG-91 chain (I haven't tried an HG DA Chain).
>
>I found just the opposite, that the Sedis SL did not shift as well
>as an HG-90 chain.

Are y'all comparing the same thing - ie., a new, clean, lubed chain on 
clean cogs?
I'm sure a clean Sedissport chain would shift better than a dirty 
Hyperglide chain and vice versa.

--
Chris Moll                       (510)486-7891
---
"Blessed are they who Go Around in Circles, for they Shall
be Known as Wheels."
From: prendergast@jesnic.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Bike riding in San Antonio
Date: 10 Sep 1992 20:48:44 GMT
Organization: nasa/jsc

I will be traveling to San Antonio, TX during the week of Sept. 14-18.  I'm
looking for someone with knowledge of the San Antonio area.  Let me know where
the best places to ride(road bike) are.  Can anyone help? 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: eldred@rrunner.jpl.nasa.gov (Dan Eldred)
Subject: Re: replacing broken spokes
Keywords: spokes
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:45:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.134350.8437@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> hwk@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (henry.w.krautter) writes:
>Is it necessary to replace a broken spoke with the same kind of spoke. I
>just received Jobst's bicycle wheel book last night from Colorado Cyclist
>and I only had time to skim through it, but I don't think the answer was
>there. Two bike shops have told me it's OK to replace a 14/15/14 gauge
>double butted spoke with a 14 gauge spoke. Oh course they didn't have the
>same spoke in stock even though both shops sell the bike. 
>
>Thanks,
>Henry
>

I would say it's not a good idea.  The thicker spoke will be stiffer
than the rest, so it will take more tension when the wheel is put under
load. This will increase the likelihood of it breaking at the elbow or
threaded end, since the thickness there is the same as the double butted
spoke.

On the other hand, you'll probably get away with it for quite a while,
unless you're a heavy, strong hill climber (like myself). 

	- Dan
From: BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: women working on bikes
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:45:23 GMT

David Wuertele writes:

> I think that the medical field does have much in common (academically)
> with the engineering field.  How do you feel about the prospects of women
> in medicine?

I, for one, cannot understand why any gynecologists are men.  As a child I
always thought of the doctor as being either a man or woman because here
in Palo Alto, Esther Clark and Ruth Johnson were the GP's and school doctors
and were as well known as Russell Lee and Ralph Cutter.   Various parks and
buildings are named after these people today.

> I think I would ride faster if I had a girl mechanic!

I'm heard of men who would rather play with girls than with women?
Maybe you are into child molesting?

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
From: camlau@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (**bj**)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Shimano Bottom Bracket-UN50
Keywords: n
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:10:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <18no2lINN7pf@overload.lbl.gov>, chris@carnival.lbl.gov (Chris Moll) writes...
>Michael Batchelder or Jeremy Goell (my references are screwed up) writes: 
>I have a UN70 bb.  It developed a creak for five or six hundred miles,

The UN70 has been in my wife's bike for approx 300 off road miles.  So
far no creak and no problems.  On the other hand, when I was visiting
my local bike shop last weekend, I saw them removing a defective UN70
from another bike.  The guy trashed it after 1 muddy ride.  Perhaps
a defective lot?

>Their biggest virtue is that installation is trivial.  Nothing to adjust or 
>fiddle with. 

Installation of conventional bb is also trivial.

>>they weigh more than conventional bb's, 
>Is it really heavier than a conventional BB?  I thought it was about the
>same.

While in the same bike shop I held a UN70 in one hand and conventional
Shimano XT bb in the other hand.  The UN70, without a doubt, is
heavier.  Can't tell you exactly how much but wouldn't stop me from
installing one on my own bike if weight is the ONLY reason.

Problem with these new fangled cartridge jobs is:  you need to buy another
-*&%^$$*% tool.

**bj**
..just tinkering around...
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: brockr@muvaxe.rferl.org (Train, Learn, Climb, Ride)
Subject: Thoughts
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Radio Free Europe
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:03:00 GMT

  Hi all,

  Maybe I shouldn't be posting this one of the sub-newsgroups but, didn't know
which one so, I'll take my lickens.
  For any of you out there who have been reading some of my posted questions
they'll realise that I'm relatively new to biking - this is but my second
year of cycling.  (Actually this whole message is thought processes emanating
out of my skull).
  With cycling I've finally found something that I'm totally caught up with.
In essence, I LOVE IT!  But, the problem I'm having with it is as follows:
  Because I work a full time job I don't get as near enough saddle time as I
would want.  And, because I live outside of Munich by the time I get home
at night, in the Autumn/Winter, it's already dark, so that shoots cycling time
all to hell.
  What really bothers me is the fact that I would really like to train a lot
more yet, for the stated reasons, I can't.  Which is a bit of a dilemna for
me.  (I realise it's all psychological but, that realization is no help).  
  I would certainly cycle at night but, because I own several "racing" bikes,
which don't have lights installed, and because it is illegal in this country
to ride a bike, at any time without lights, reflectors, bells, fog horns etc.,
I don't bother.
  So, I humbly ask all you folk out there, what could I do?  I mean, I ride
as much on the weekends as possible but, it's still not enough.  I WANT
MORE.  Or perhaps, should I give up cycling and maybe take to kite-flying?
I guess one point would be if there's a way of obtaining some sort of 
detachable lighting system for the bikes, visible from front and rear? 
Here in Germany, there is no such a thing.  Is there such a thing?
  Comments, suggestions, thrown eggs; welcome.

  Richard (Caught-up-by-the-cycling-monster) Brock
  Munich, Germany
  @BROCKR.RFERL.ORG
From: scheng@cs.utexas.edu (Sheila Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: mind games
Date: 9 Sep 1992 13:43:41 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: needmore.cs.utexas.edu

I have noticed this trend in my training.  There are lots of
hills around here and some of them are rather steep.  Whenever,
I am riding up what I consider a steep hill, I say to myself,
"this is crazy. you don't want to do this again. remember how
bad it feels!!"   However, after the ride, I almost immediately
forget "how bad it felt".  I remember telling myself to remember
how bad it felt but I cannot recreate in my mind how bad it felt
UNTIL I go out and ride next time.  

Maybe I am not making any sense.  Does anyone know what I am
talking about ??

--sheila
From: UCPL081@UNLVM.UNL.EDU
Subject: American Classic Rollers 4-SALE
Organization: University of Nebraska
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 21:16:58 CST

I have a set of American Classic Rollers (black frame with 6 red sealed bearing
rollers) for sale.  I've had these sitting down in my basement for 3 years and
I think I've only ridden them 3 times.  gee I'm lazy!  Anyway, they are in grea
t shape and give one hell of a workout .......(perfect for that winter interval
training). I'm asking $150, or best offers.  Please e-mail responses if you
can.  Thanks
 
Conrado 'Campagnolo' Castaneda
U of Nebraska-Lincoln
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: crick@htlv.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: women working on bikes
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:04:08 GMT

>
>Pardon me for being out of touch.  My passing comment that the term "girl"
>where "woman" would be appropriate apparently touched on a raw nerve.  The
>reference to child molesting seems to conjure up the extreme connotation
>in some readers.  It appeared to me to be a facetious image of a bicycle
>rider wanting a "girl" to fix his bike for unspecified reasons that could
>be inferred from David Wuertele's statement.  There seem to be rules about
>which sexual implications are OK and which are not.  Why, for instance,
>would a "girl" make Dave ride faster?  Oh sure, because she would adjust
>his bike better.
>
>I think that under this subject heading (women's place in a technical
>world) referring to women as "girls" is awkward and out of place.  My
>reference was to suggest how far out of place such male banter might be
>interpreted.  Some took it either as an endorsement of the practice or as
>an indictment against Dave, both of which seem to me to be gratuitously
>extreme interpretations.
>
>Robert's response is about as extreme as they get and I seem to have pressed
>a hot button here.  I am not aware that the term "child molestation" is so
>far out of bounds that the obvious incongruity of my suggestion of "girls"
>assisting a bike rider and his possible sexual interest in underage women be
>so interpreted.  The selfrighteous responses are striking.  It may be a
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>result of new focus on "family values", another term that seems to carry a
>lot of weight these days.
>


Nice try.  If you are going to suggest that someone is a possible child 
molester then you'd better be prepared for some followup.  It seems that
to you the implication of being a child molester is just a small mixup
between the use of the word girl rather than woman, although your logic
that it was a "facetious image of a bicycle rider wanting a girl to fix
his bike" seems to be quite a stretch of semantics.  Rather than blaming
the readers of this group for being self righteous, why not have the guts
to admit that you chose your words poorly.  And please stop pulling a
"Bush" by trying to divert the real issue to the bogus one of "family
values".  You f*cked up big time when you posted so accept the fact that
you have been called on it.  Now if we can lay to rest the opinions of
Mr. Brandt and move on to the topic of bicycling...
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: gcs@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg C. Steiner)
Subject: Biking in Columbia, S.C.
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:21:48 GMT


I'll soon be taking a week-long business trip to Columbia, South 
Carolina.  I'd like to keep up with my biking while there.  Is it 
a safe place to bike?  Where?  I'm mostly looking for road riding 
but I would consider off-road riding as well.  

Also, I'm trying to decide if I should pack my bike and fly it 
there or rent one once I get there.  If I rent, where is a good 
reputable place?  What's a good price to pay?

Thanks

Greg Steiner
gcs@edsi.plexus.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc
From: pwyc@cbnewse.cb.att.com (peter.w.chen)
Subject: Re: Donating Blood when Commuting by Bike
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:25:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.115544.1@mdcbbs.com> royce@mdcbbs.com (Royce D. Myers EDS/Unigraphics) writes:
>  This Wednesday I'll be donating blood.  I commute to work via bike most
>  of the time, and the question is, does anyone know how losing a unit of
>  blood will affect my ride home?  Should I wimp out and drive that day?
>
>  My commute is 10.5 miles each way; it normally takes 40-45 minutes with
>  lights.  I weigh about 160 (5'8").  I am in good shape, but I'm not a
>  racer: I cruise at about 15 - 16 (flat no wind) without breaking much of
>  a sweat or breathing heavilly.  This is on an LL Bean Acadia (cheap ATB),
>  with a lead-alloy frame.

I've done it before and will probably do it again this Wednesday.  If you
ask a doctor she'll probably say don't ride because doctors don't like to get
sued, but I think the risk is low if you're in good shape.  Take a precaution
by arranging a ride home if necessary, and check your fitness after donating
by doing some push-ups - if you can do 80% of your normal limit without
getting dizzy, I say go for it; pedal a little slower than normal perhaps,
but the risk of blacking out is probably lower when you're doing mild aerobic
activity than if you're sitting behind the wheel.  And try to donate in the
morning so you get more hours to recover for the ride home.
==
Peter Chen
pwyc@ihspa.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch)
Subject: Re: women working on bikes
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  5 Sep 1992 18:59 EST  

In article <9209040141.AA15426@hplomg.hpl.hp.com>, BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM writes...
> 
..


>In my design experience I have worked in a wide field of mechanical things,
>I have never had the opportunity to work with a female mechanical engineer.
>Not that there are none but I never came across one.  We had "draftsmen"

Jobst, consider this an invitation to visit the Lewis Research Center. 
You would be fascinated at the range and depth of topics we work on here,
in aerodynamics, materials science, structures, combustion, optics, 
propulsion, photovoltaics, and others. If there is a topic you would 
like to present as a seminar we can arrange this.

You would also find a good many women who are engineers - mechanical,
aeronautical, electrical, materials; others who are chemists,
physicists, and other technical professionals, as well as mechanics,
electricians, and other trades. 


Nancy Piltch            piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland Ohio 44135

Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:22302 rec.bicycles.racing:118
From: iglesias@draco.acs.uci.edu (Mike Iglesias)
Subject: Re: World Championship Road -- Contest Results
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.racing
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Sep 92 03:18:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.200411.13592@walter.cray.com> bschwart@gath.cray.com (Robert J. Schwartz) writes:
>Daniel Connelly writes:
>>
>>Women's Team Time Trial
>>
>>1.  United States	1:03:30.7
>
>Anybody got any names to associate with this time.

According to the LA Times (Sat Sept 7), the riders were:Bunki Bankaitis-Davis,
Eve Stephenson, Jan Bolland, and Jeanne Golay.  They finished more than
12 seconds ahead of the French team (Jeanne Longo, Corrine Legal, Catherine
Marsal, Cecile Odin).


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