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From: sarust@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Scott A. Rust)
Subject: Re:      driver's licence restrictions
Organization: Gallaudet University English Department
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:14:54 GMT

In article <DEAF-L%93010709414459@SIUCVMB.BITNET>,         David James <ALAMA10@HUMAIN.BITNET> writes:
> 
> My license has two deafness-related restrictions: my vehicle must
> have an outside rearview mirror, and I must wear a hearing aid
> when driving.
> 
> The first restriction is expected and reasonable, but I am
> somewhat surprised by the second. My profoundly impaired hearing
> helps me understand speech if there is no background noise, but
> it is quite useless in a car -- the dull roar of the engine
> drowns out all other sounds, including sirens, horns, and other
> vehicles' engines.
> 
> It doesn't really matter, since I wear a hearing aid all my
> waking hours in any event. But I'm curious whether anyone else on
> the list has such a restriction on his or her driver's license.
> Also, does anyone have any opinions or, better still, experience
> about whether wearing a hearing aid actually makes any practical
> difference in driving?
> 
> --David James
> ALAMA10@HUMAIN.BITNET
> DMJAMES@GALLUA.BITNET
-- 

	That's interesting! My license requires neither of the two restrictions
that you have to comply with. You're right about the uselessness of hearing
aids in the car. Personally, when driving is one of the times that I take my
hearing aids _out_. I find that listening to the rushing air, the roaring
engine and the talking wife very distracting (sorry, dear).
	The closest I ever came to problems with driving/license etc. was
trying to get insurance a few years ago. The company was going to jack up my
rates or not accept me because of my horribly debilitating and crippling
handicap...  :-) (sarcasm, for the humor-impaired).

_______

		Scott A. Rust | "A stupid person can do anything
	 Gallaudet University |           except think."
  sarust@gallua.gallaudet.edu |                   Bob Dobbs, Jr.

		   "Why? Why because I laugh."
                                    - Sherwood Anderson -
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From: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (President Seth Green Fan Club)
Subject: Re: driver's licence restrictions
Reply-To: fak9957@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:24:28 GMT

In article <DEAF-L%93010709414459@SIUCVMB.BITNET>, David James <ALAMA10@HUMAIN.BITNET> writes:
>Yesterday I became licensed to drive an automobile for the first
>time ever.

>My license has two deafness-related restrictions: my vehicle must
>have an outside rearview mirror, and I must wear a hearing aid
>when driving.
>
>The first restriction is expected and reasonable, but I am
>somewhat surprised by the second.

>--David James


David,

I wonder about this too.  Suppose a deaf person chooses not to wear and use a
hearing aid.  Then what?  Suppose the police stop a deaf person who chooses not
to wear a hearing aid. Maybe this is a possible senerio:

	Police[speaking but not signing]: Where is your hearing-aid?

	Deaf person[signing only]: Where is your sign language?

	Police[louder]: I said, WHERE IS YOUR HEARING-AID??

	Deaf person[signing louder]: I SAID WHERE IS YOUR DEAF
					POLICE OFFICER?

	Police[writes a note and shows it to the deaf person]:
				Where is your hearing-aid?

	Deaf person[responds in writing]: Oh, I'm sorry it's at
				the hearing-aid shop being repaired.




 
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From:         "Keith Watt - Gallaudet Dept. of Education"
              <11CWATT@GALLUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Good one Lew!

>Well, since you're including non-Americans who aren't deaf, how about
>Alexander Graham Kowalski?
>
>He was the first telephone Pole.


ROTFL!!!

Keith

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From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Subject: Re: driver's licence restrictions
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:21:49 GMT

 I have been driving since 1984, and there is no restrictions
 on my VA license, however, I always make sure I have BOTH
 outside mirrors (left/right) because it helps, and it was Ohio law.

 As for an hearing aid, you shouldn't be required to use it unless it
 really helps you hear, otherwise, make an appeal to DMV, MVA or whatever.

- Scotty

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From:         /PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM
Subject:      RE: Teacher asks for help - again

 <"BGJD-5596-5577/36"*/PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com>

RICHARD, I HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT YOUR REPLY TO CATHY ABOUT THE DEAF CHILD WHO
 IS QUESTIONING HIS DEAFNESS.  I AGREE THAT THIS REF
LECTS A STEP (FORWARD) FOR THE CHILD, BUT I AM NOT SURE I AGREE THE CHILD GOES
 THRU THE USUAL STAGES OF ADJUSTMENT TO DEAFNESS THAT
WE EQUATE WITH A DEATH OF A LOVED ONE.  THE PARENTS MOST DEFINITELY DO, HOWEVER.
  ALSO, A PERSON WHO IS DEAFENED WILL GO THROUGH THO
SE STAGES, BUT A CHILD BORN DEAF, OR WHO BECOMES DEAF AT A VERY EARLY AGE DOES
 NOT EXPERIENCE THAT TYPE OF LOSS.  I THINK IN THE CAS
E OF THE PRELINGUALLY DEAF CHILD IT IS MORE A QUESTION OF IDENTITY AND SO THE
 PROCESS IS DIFFERENT.  COMMENTS?
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:48:32 -0500
From:         Miriam Clifford <DMIMI@ECSVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      re: driver's license restrict

I have no restrictions on my drivers license except to be wearing glasses--
my vision is astigmatic.  I'm not deaf, however, and the question of my
hearing hasn't come up in the licensing office.

dmimi@ecsvax.uncecs.edu  dmimi@ecsvax.bitnet
Miriam (Mimi) Clifford; 2535 Sevier St, Durham, NC 27705; 919-489-4821
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:32:28 -0600
From:         /PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM
Subject: Re: driver's licence restrictions

 <"DGJD-5590-9175/36"*/PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com>

I HAVE HAD A DRIVERS LICENSE FROM CALIFORNIA FOR 36 YEARS WITH NO RESTRICTIONS,
 AND NOW ALSO HAVE A LICENSE FROM GREAT BRITAIN WITH
NO RESTRICTIONS EXCEPT THAT I CAN'T DRIVE A BUS!
From: chrispy@hardy.u.washington.edu (Chris Prince)
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Subject: Re: driver's licence restrictions
Date: 9 Jan 1993 21:49:15 GMT
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In article <DEAF-L%93010811215160@SIUCVMB.BITNET> /PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM writes:
> <"CGJD-5590-9034/36"*/PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com>
>
>REGARDING DEAF DRIVERS...I ALWAYS AM FASCINATED TO SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES OTHER
> DRIVERS TO REACT TO APPROACHING EMERGENCY VEHICLES BE
>CAUSE I SEE THEM BEFORE THEY HEAR THEM!  I KNOW I AM DEAF BUT OTHER DRIVERS
> DON'T KNOW THEY ARE FUNCTIONALLY DEAF WHEN THEIR WINDOWS
> ARE ROLLED UP AND THEIR DUAL-SPEAKER RADIOS ARE ON!

True! I usually see an emergency vehicle before I hear it. And I don't listen
to music very load. Besides, I ride the bus, and I will still see a fire
truck or police car before I hear it.

Chris:)

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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:21:51 -0600
From:         /PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM
Subject: Re: driver's licence restrictions

 <"CGJD-5590-9034/36"*/PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com>

REGARDING DEAF DRIVERS...I ALWAYS AM FASCINATED TO SEE HOW LONG IT TAKES OTHER
 DRIVERS TO REACT TO APPROACHING EMERGENCY VEHICLES BE
CAUSE I SEE THEM BEFORE THEY HEAR THEM!  I KNOW I AM DEAF BUT OTHER DRIVERS
 DON'T KNOW THEY ARE FUNCTIONALLY DEAF WHEN THEIR WINDOWS
 ARE ROLLED UP AND THEIR DUAL-SPEAKER RADIOS ARE ON!
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From: sarust@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Scott A. Rust)
Subject: Re:      Deaf businessmen/self-employed
Organization: Gallaudet University English Department
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:27:07 GMT

In article <DEAF-L%93010616151429@SIUCVMB.BITNET>,         Omer Zak <XLACHA1@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL> writes:
> 3. What, in your opinion, is required for a deaf businessperson to succeed
>    (over and above any qualities which are required by normally-hearing
>    persons)?  How feasible is it to succeed alone nowadays, in the era
>    of TDDs and FAX machines?
>                                                  --- Omer
-- 

	Not to take away from your original meaning here, but in the United
States right now it's not very feasible for a _hearing_ to be able to succeed
as an independant business person. 
_______

		Scott A. Rust | "A stupid person can do anything
	 Gallaudet University |           except think."
  sarust@gallua.gallaudet.edu |                   Bob Dobbs, Jr.

		   "Why? Why because I laugh."
                                    - Sherwood Anderson -
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From: sarust@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Scott A. Rust)
Subject: Re:      professor from Gallaudet now at Northeastern
Organization: Gallaudet University English Department
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:17:34 GMT

In article <9301071326.AA01460@tif167.ed.ray.com>,         "Esther A. Paris" <esther@DEMAND.ED.RAY.COM> writes:
> Hey, any of you Gallaudet folks know a Bryan Lloyd?
> (Oh, I hope I've spelled that properly.  I left my notebook
> at home.)  He's teaching one of the classes I'm taking at
> Northeastern University this quarter.
> 
> Esther Paris at Raytheon EDL in Marlborough, MA
-- 

	Brian taught in the English dept here at Gally last year. What's he
teaching at Northwestern?

_______

		Scott A. Rust | "A stupid person can do anything
	 Gallaudet University |           except think."
  sarust@gallua.gallaudet.edu |                   Bob Dobbs, Jr.

		   "Why? Why because I laugh."
                                    - Sherwood Anderson -
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:28:13 -0600
From:         /PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM
Subject:      RE: license restrictions

 <"BGJD-5590-9103/36"*/PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com>

I AM KIND OF SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT COLORADO EVEN THINKS IT'S OK TO HAVE THE
 INSIDE LIGHT ON W H I L E  D R I V I N G, IN ORDER TO L
OOK AT A MAP!  OR DO I MISUNDERSTAND THE COMMENT FROM JOSH?
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:16:31 -0500
From:         "Esther A. Paris" <esther@RAYSSD.SSD.RAY.COM>
Subject:      Re: professor from Gallaudet now at Northeastern

Hi Scott... at NorthEAstern I have the honor of Mr. Lloyd's teaching
                    ^ea, not we
my American Deaf History class.  So far my only complaint was that the school
did not plan for the appropriate amount of space for the students...
there were five interpreters in the room, about 35 students, Brian Lloyd,
a notetaker, a student with an elaborate tape-recording set-up, and a
long table for Brian.  There were about 15 chairs in a room about half
the size of my living room at home. (That is to say, it was a small room.)

Needless to say the people who got the luxury of standing through the
lecture were less dirty and grimy than those who chose to sit on the
floor during the lecture.  However, this insufficient space is NO SURPRISE.

Mr. Lloyd seems to have a great sense of humor.  He kidded me within
30 seconds of my arrival and I found it very entertaining.  I arrived
late because I was looking for Room 114A and the class was in 141A.
When I arrived he asked me if I was there for Deaf History.  All I saw
was YOU and DEAF and a question-mark face.  (He's from New York, so he
signs fast -- says he.) So I replied "I'm hearing." He said, "Oh, I could
tell you are hearing by the coat you're wearing.  Are you here for Deaf
History."  I was about a thousand shades of crimson due to embarrassment
and stress (imagine walking late into a room where it's Standing Room
Only!) but I found it very entertaining.

Esther Paris at Raytheon EDL in Marlborough, MA
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From:         Jackie Guarente-Rider Computer Serv x4278 H-239
              <AAJR@CATCC.BITNET>
Subject:      mailid request for cathy the teacher

Cathy the teacher,

I would like to send you a private e-mail.  I had sent mail to
CBRAN00@UKCC.UKY.EDU and I don't think you received it.  I'm on BITNET.
Maybe all I need to do is eliminate the .EDU ?
Thanks.

Sincerely, Jackie Guarente-Rider

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From:         Humberto Jose Bortolossi <hjbortol@IMPA.BR>
Subject:      PSF/VM version 1.0/Exclamation Points/TeX/Capital Z
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Comments: cc: Jose' Luiz de Souza Gomes <jlsgomes@brfuem.bitnet>,
          Tarcisio Praciano Pereira <tppereir@brfuem.bitnet>,
          Julio Cesar Wunderlich <jcwunder@brfuem.bitnet>,
          Umberto Tanaka <77100@brfuem.bitnet>,
          Helio do Prado <77132@brfuem.bitnet>

Greetings and happy new year!

     Our system is an IBM 3090 running VM/ESA version 1.0. We have a
3827 page printer (a laser one) and PSF/VM version 1.0. I got    the
following problem:

           o When I use PSF/VM v. 1.0 to print an EBCDIC text,   all
exclamation points (!) don't appear in the paper! To get a    excla-
mation point we have been used a dollar sign. And, I don't know  why
or how, this dollar sign is translated to a exclamation point.

     Indeed, I'm trying to solve a more serious problem and I  think
it's related with the problem above: Our university wished to   ins-
tall TeX for CMS (a very powerful text editor). TeX is a public  do-
main program. It takes an EBCDIC text (with TeX commands) and  makes
a .LIST3820 file ready to print. There are a lot of fonts   associa-
ted too (these fonts are .FONT3820 (IBM format) ones).

     But when I use PSF/VM to print the .list3820 file (generated by
TeX) all letters capital Z don't appear in the paper! The letter   Z
(within fonts generated by TeX) and the exclamation point    (within
IBM standard fonts) are on the same position into font tables!

    Is this a problem with PSF/VM version 1.0? I say this because  a
friend of mine printed files generated by TeX without problems.   He
has PSF/VM version 2.1.0. And the capital Z appears!

    Please, 3820/PSV.VM experts, help me. I tried to talk with   IBM
support but they denied help because TeX is a non-IBM software  (but
PSF/VM is!!!).

    Thanks a lot in advance, Humberto.




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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:18:16 CST
From:         Judith.Grobe.Sachs@UIC.EDU
Subject:      A Hyphenation Dictionary for Waterloo SCRIPT?

Does anyone have or know where I can get a dictionary of hyphenation
exceptions for Waterloo SCRIPT (or anything else for that matter that
could be modified for Waterloo SCRIPT)?  I'm helping a person with a
200 page book and he's despairing of getting the hypenation correct.

By the way, by a hypenation dictionary I mean a list of words with
proper hypenation, such as:
.hy add de-pend-able
(The .hy add is gravy, just a list of hypenated words would be great!)

Thanks!  JGS

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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:40:05 EST
Reply-To:     Cliff <cmckeith%galsci.uucp@MATHCS.EMORY.EDU>
From:         Cliff <cmckeith%galsci.uucp@MATHCS.EMORY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Subject Given

>Get this.  The Turkey player in "tapir" on the Washington judge was
>getting his head handed to him.  So when Italy went CD, he resigned Turkey
>and signed on as Italy.  Or something like that.  Hence Turkey is now
>abandoned and may be taken over immedriately.

Now THIS is something that I define as "goofy play," and thus in violation
of EP house rules.  Now, I don't know if "tapir" is an EP game or not, but
I would be downright irate if I were another player in that game.  It is one
thing to be eliminated and take over another power later in the game (which
some consider to be "goofy"), but to resign for that expressed purpose?
We're talking about charter member of the "Goof Troop" here (IMHO).

Cliff
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:07:50 +0100
Reply-To:     karl@ims.uni-stuttgart.de
From:         Karl Dotzek <karl@ADLER.IMS.UNI-STUTTGART.DE>
Subject:      Position in 'beetle'

Sorry folks, but
the position of England in 'beetle' is not vacant anymore, even if the
Washington judge says so.

The player went CD due to the Christmas break, when the deadline
wasn't set accordingly early enough to avoid his CD.  This is
the fault of the GM *and* the players (who didn't inform him), but it
was agreed to pause the game until England's return.  The necessary
deadline push had only been forgotten.

We're waiting for the original player to return.  He had some private
trouble and had to leave for some time.  Shouldn't he return, there's
already a standby found.

That this game doesn't continue for another week is no problem here.
Most of us are professionals, owing a little time per week to *the8
game.  So 'beetle' has never been a rushy game.  Sorry, but there's indeed
someone on this judge who *doesn't* need to see a move every 24 hrs.!!!

Karl, a player of 'beetle'.
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Reply-To:     Rick Desper <desper@MATH.RUTGERS.EDU>
From:         Rick Desper <desper@MATH.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      EFF Judge

The EFF Judge is not bouncing my messages.  Has anybody received mail
from it today?
					Rick
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 11:08:00 CST
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From:         BLT@OSUCC.BITNET
Subject:      Historical Variant?

Dear fellow list members,

    Are there any variants out there that attempt to make Diplomacy
more historically accurate. Diplomacy is an excellent, well-balanced,
fun game that recreates well the diplomatic negotiations of the time,
but it's somewhat lacking as a historical simulator. There are two
areas for improvement that I see:

1) Make the starting forces roughly equivalent to their historical
   strengths. Turkey's armed forces were not even in the same ballpark
   as Germany's at the time, yet they are identical in standard
   Diplomacy. It would also be necessary to adjust the victory
   conditions for each country to compensate. And while we're on it,
   what's the historical basis for having to conquer half of Europe
   anyway? Only a few megalomanics like Hitler and Nappy (and dippers)
   have attempted it.

2) Separate the diplomatic struggle for control over small countries
   and colonies from the military struggle. It was mainly a non-
   military struggle from 1901 until WWI began in 1914. Some provision
   would have to be made for the off-map colonies that were negotiated
   over (e.g. France and Germany over Morocco, France and England over
   Egypt, England and Russia over Persia). Maybe there should be non-
   military units that can establish control over minor countries and
   colonies while that military units wait for war to break out. Or
   maybe the game shouldn't even try to simulate the military part and
   should end when war breaks out.

    If anybody knows of a variant that deals with these issues, please
let me know. If not, let's here what you think.

                 Thanks,
                           Brent Tweeten
                           Oklahoma State University
                           blt@mvs.ucc.okstate.edu
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Reply-To:     Nick Fitzpatrick <nick@SUNBURN.UWATERLOO.CA>
From:         Nick Fitzpatrick <nick@SUNBURN.UWATERLOO.CA>
Subject: Re: LISTSERV SIGNOFF command not working. :-(

	GET ME OUT OF HERE.  No, seriously, I apologize profusely for posting
	to the list, but I've sent a string of messages to the listserv at
	mitvma over the past two weeks signing myself off of dipl-l, to no
	avail.

	Somethings broke.

	Thanks.

	--Pete

I would love to remove you Pete, but I need much more information
than your first name!!!!!  Even your E-mail address would help.

If anyone else wants off the DIPL-L (alias FURR_TALK_ATHON-L)
please send me E-mail

Nick
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:28:07 EST
Reply-To:     Cliff <cmckeith%galsci.uucp@MATHCS.EMORY.EDU>
From:         Cliff <cmckeith%galsci.uucp@MATHCS.EMORY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Subject Given

>Also, EP does not recognize Machiavelli games . . ..
>
>So far, all games started at the EFF judge, have been part of EP,
>except the games chocolat (GM declined) and genoa (Machiavelli).
>
>Nick

For what it's worth, is it safe to assume that it's kosher to write up
a summary of Genoa for EP, even though it will not have the distinction of
being EP eligable?

Cliff (genoa moderator)
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