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From: khui@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Kelvin Y. Hui)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: San Pablo Bay (San Francisco) Fishing Report
Date: 12 Nov 1992 22:38:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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11/8 (Sunday) - high tide @ 10:00 am.  Moderate incoming tide and about 6 ft
                outgoing tide.

We started fishing for striper around Pumphouse at 9:30 am using grass shrimp
and mud shrimp as bait.  There were quite a few private boats there.  However
most party boats were fishing around China Camp.  For the next 1.5 hours 
we didn't get a bite and we didn't see any fish caught by the boats around
us either.  The only excitement occurred when the game wardens showed up
unexpectedly in plaincloth in a 16' boston whaler (we can usually spot them
from a distance in their sheriff department patrol boat flying a flag).  They
must have caught a few by surprise because I saw the wardens giving citation
to several boats - maybe for fishing without a striper stamp but definitely
not for over the limit 8^)  We switched to trolling at 11:00 am (slack tide).
That was the preferred method of fishing for the previous days in which the
party boats reported huge success.  No such luck for us for the next 1.5 hours.
We saw only 1 fish landed by the party boats.  Judging by the excitment of that
angler over a medium size fish we can tell the party boats haven't had much
luck all day either.

We switched back to bait fishing but still no luck.  We did the last thing we
could do by fishing at our secret fishing hole (where exactly I couldn't
reveal :-) )  We were dozing off when suddenly my partner's rod bend and within
minutes we had our first striper.  The bites were far in between but the three
of us managed to limit by 4 pm. (California striper limit is more liberal:
18"+ and 2 fish/angler).  The fishs were from 22" to 26".  We also caught and
released a 38" sturgeon.

According to my memory the striper fishing in San Pablo Bay will continue for
2-3 more weeks before they all migrate to the delta.  Striper fishing has
improved steadily for the last two years probably due to the banning of drift
net, the slight increase in rainfall and the curbing of poaching.  Excellent
quality (15-40 lbs) ocean run stripers have been caught at the surf line and
there is an abundant of smaller school size stripers inside the Bay.  Hopefully
fishing will improve further with the signing of the water bill allocating
more water to the wild life.

Heard from the tackle shop:
Lingcod fishing was red hot on Tuesday (4/rod) but slow down a little bit on
Wednesday.  If the calm sea holds I will be off to deep sea fishing this
weekend.  Last time we went we caught 10 lingcods to 20 lbs among the two
of us.  The biggest fish caught that day was 43 lbs.
From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
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Subject: Re: Spinning Reels with two drag modes
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:32:43 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

>>I would like a spinning reel which I could set the drag to 
>>act the same as above but be able to switch to a "real" drag
>>when a fish is on.
>>
>>Does anyone know of any spinning reels and makes that provide
>>this function?

Most 'new' spin-cast reels have a line-clip on the side of the spool.
This clip can be used in one of two ways;

one - wrap the tag end of the line around the clip for long
term storage/containment of the line

and here's the one for quick-release when 'still fishing' (I wish I were ..)

two - TUCK the line under the clip (don't wrap it around) to lightly hold
the line while 'still' fishing with the bail open .....

--
Joe Whittemore - From where the Westfield
                      Meets the Westfield
                         By the Westfield
                            In Huntington (MA)

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From: dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?)
Subject: Re: "Micro-barb" hooks
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:24:15 GMT

In article <DENNIS_.26.0@NCSU.EDU> DENNIS_@NCSU.EDU (DGA) writes:
>Does anyone have any experience using "micro-barb" hooks such as those sold 
>by Cabella's?  How micro is the barb?
>
>DGA

Yes, I believe they work well.  The argument I heard was that the smaller
barb works just as well at preventing the hook from coming back out,
while at the same time preventing a lot of damage to the 'hole' where
it went in.  If a fish fights a lot, the it's possible that the hole
gets pretty mangled by the barb, thereby enlargening the hole and 
making the chances that the hook could come back out much greater than
you'd like.  With a small barb, the mangling is minimized so the barb
(any barb) will have a greater chance of 'catching' on the way out, i.e
the fish stays on.  I use Gamukatzu hooks with great success when
compared to hooks like Mustad or Eagle Claw lazer Sharps.  Principles of
operation are only theory until tested, and my 'testing' has shown that
whatever it is, it works.  I'm all for small barbs and sharp points!

How micro is it?  I'd say the barb is about 1/3rd the size those found
on Mustads or Eagle Claw hooks, and the point on the hook is much sharper
also.  Ever get a cactus spine in your finger?  No amount of wiggling and
pulling gets it out...it just goes deeper!  My Gamukatzu hooks are sometimes
sunk clear up to the eye of the hook when I get the fish in, while the
other types of hooks I mentioned never did that.

Brian D.

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From: tim@sitpc1.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (tims login)
Subject: Re: too cold
Keywords: snow, mackerel, sea runtrout
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 21:38:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.035905.20270@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> lebaron@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (LeBaron Briggs) writes:
>
>
>Too cold to fish? Never. Last Sunday in the snow showers and 20 knots
>northeast wind the mackerel fishing was great at the east end of the
>Cape Cod Canal. Great fun!


I was fishing out of Montauk on the same day.  We never got the snow showers,
but that NE wind was whippin all day.  We caught about 20 stripers (only 1
keeper - 20lbs) and a bunch of blues up to 15lbs.  Most of the fish were 
caught trolling parachutes around the rips at Shagwon and The Point.

We also caught some fish diamond jigging, but they never seemed to stay in
one place long enough to make it real productive.  But, with temps. in the
30s and 20 knot winds, I guess you can't blame them for wanting to keep
moving. :-)

TC
tim.cogan@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM

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     Yes.

CR in CA
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From: skinner@cshl.org (John Skinner)
Subject: Re: Graphite vs Fiberglass Spinning rods
Organization: Cold Spring Harbor Laboratory
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:46:18 GMT

Here's my 2 cents from a surf fishing perspective. I use both
glass and graphite surf sticks depending on the application.
Alot of guys will agree that if your throwing light plugs all
night, the graphite poles will wear you out alot faster because
they dont load up as easily as the glass poles. On the other hand,
there is no comparison in terms of sensitivity. When its time to
detect a hit and set the hook, I want a graphite pole. I also
fished salmon, steelhead, and bass in upstate N.Y. for 5 years.
With the exception of downrigging, I didn't find much use for glass
up there. As far as them breaking in the cold, I used to fish steelhead
when it was < 10 degrees. I whacked my 100% grphite pole into branches
a number of times and also caught alot of nice fish and never had
a problem with it breaking. In general, they are alot less forgiving
than glass. As far as cost, there doesn't seem to be that much of a 
difference in price for the smaller fresh water rods. The saltwater
graphite surf blanks are about 3 times the price of the glass ones.
Depending on how your fishing, they can be worth every cent.
-- 
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John M. Skinner   Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton N.Y. USA
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From: ksmith@swine.cs.uiuc.edu (Ken Smith)
Subject: Re: Fishing in Illinois
Keywords: fishing in illinoid
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:06:00 GMT

abdg6870@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander B Davis) writes:



>     I've been wondering where the best places to fish are in Central
>Illinois (if there are any).  I'm living in Urbana, so the closest
>places to me are the ones I'd be most interested in.
>                                         Thanks,  Alex
>                                         abdg6870@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>  
>Path: maureen.cen.uiuc.edu!user
>From: mtan@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Maureen Tan)

Central Illinois is *not* central Minnesota (10,000 farms, not lakes), but
there are still some places to go in the area, depending on what you
want to catch.  My first recommendation is Lake Shelbyville, about 1.5 hours
south of here, it has nice bass and some walleye.  Lots of coves with cover
that are accessible by foot; we do alot of wading there.  You can also fish
the river below the dam and it has nice places to camp.  Moraine View State
Park, about 45 minutes to the west of Urbana, has a fishing lake.  Its also
got some nice "original habitat" areas to hike.  My favorite spots to fish
are the area rivers, such as the Kaskasia and the Middle fork.  You can
catch smallmouth, catfish, sunfish in these.  Farm ponds are another great
place for bass and catfish, if you get to know a farmer.  Clinton lake is
well spoken of for bass, walleye and catfish, though I have never fished
there.  Its a power plant lake.  I don't recommend Lake Homer (a couple
miles from Urbana), its fished out.  And central Minnesota is not *that*
far away.
	-Ken
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From: cli@netcom.com (Concurrent Logic Inc)
Subject: Re: Spinning Reels with two drag modes
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:53:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.181400.4410@ALEX.ims.bellcore.com> fred@slayer.bellcore.com (Fred Anderson) writes:
>I would like a spinning reel which I could set the drag to 
>act the same as above but be able to switch to a "real" drag
>when a fish is on.
>
>Does anyone know of any spinning reels and makes that provide
>this function?
>

The Shimano Baitrunner series is close to what you want.  It is a spinning
reel with a free-spool feature.  When in free-spool mode, it allows the line
to feed out but still have the bail closed.  I have mostly seen them used
in salt-water fishing where you want the live bait to swim freely in order
to attract the fish.


Scott Evans
scott@clogic.com
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From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: TEL RODS
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 14:09:37 GMT

In article <k871294@pro-amber.cts.com> rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy 
opicki) writes:
>Wasn't there a pocket pole, pocket rod ...oh it was something like that.



   Pack rod !!!
 I have berkeley spirit 6 piece pack rod. 
 it is 6'6" long and can be used as fly rod , but i never try
 now my turn any body used this as fly rod. it seems to me that 
 it is to stiff to be a fly rod. 
   If somebody have done it . WHat line weight you use.

 Thanks.
 Muskie
 Sofjan Mustopoh
From: mrt7455@evtprp0b (Michael R Tucker)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Graphite vs Fiberglass Spinning rods
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:00:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: evt_bcs



I have been looking at new spinning rods for myself and my kids.  I
was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Fenwick Willow
Action line of rods.  When I was starting out (mumble-mumble) years
ago graphite was out of the question so I am used to fiberglass rods
with a softer action than similar graphite rods.  Can anyone help me
out?


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From: jfc@salmon.macsch.com (Jack Castro)
Subject: Re: nymph colors: fly tying
Organization: The MacNeal-Schwendler Corporation (MSC), Los Angeles, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:49:02 GMT

In article <15443@auspex-gw.auspex.com>, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov11.145659.3182@csservices.Princeton.EDU> jmd@cs.Princeton.EDU writes:
|> >
|> >Hello,
|> >
|> >I'm trying to build up a balanced collection of kaufman hare's-ear nymphs
|> >(9 a night, so far!). Kaufman recomends tying them in 5 colors and 5 sizes
|> >(10-18). Unfortunately, he neglects to say what the 5 colors are. I have
|> >dubbing in 11 colors, but I am sort of hoping that I can get away with
|> >tying only 75 nymphs (5 colors * 5 sizes * 3 of each) instead of 165 nymphs
|> >(11 colors * 5 sizes * 3 of each).
|> >
|> >So, would anybody care to suggest what colors should be useful? It is OK with
|> >me if you don't think 5 is a magic number for colors...
|>  
|> I don't recall what Randall Kaufmann (two nn's) he recommends but a flyfishing
|> buddy just dropped into my office and we came up with:
|> 
|> natural
|> olive
|> gold
|> black
|> 
|> but couldn't think of a fifth color worth tying.  I would probably tie
|> four of each and tie only a couple 18's and 10's.  Remember this is 
|> a searching pattern.  Once you find the right color and size there could
|> be other flys in your box of the same size that work as well.
|> 
|> -- 
|> +==========================================================================+
|> | John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
|> | johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
|> +==========================================================================+

I would go with:

Light Brown
Dark Brown
Light Olive
Dark Olive
Black or Cream

-- 
 
Jack Castro                  E-MAIL: j_castro@macsch.com
(All opinions expressed are my own and not my employers.)
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From: boone@rtsg.mot.com (Todd D. Boone)
Subject: Re: TEL RODS
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:39:26 GMT

 First before I make a suggestion, I'd like to know what type of 
fishing are you gonna be using it for.  About the only telescopic
rod I could give you information on would be a bass fishing 
rod.

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From: bpencek@nevada.edu (Bruce Pencek)
Subject: when at COMDEX...
Organization: Political Science, UNLV
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 21:42:29 GMT


The Las Vegas Fly Fishing Club (winner of the 1992 FFF Mckenzie Cup) November
meeting is the Tuesday night (11/17) of Comdex, if you're bored here.  Program:
"Vise Squad II," featuring favorite patterns for the winter season (San Juan
mostly) and into the spring.  Free.  7 -9 pm. Angel Park Golf Club, Las Vegas

Trout and stripers are at Willoow Beach on the Colorado, 1 hr south of LV;
decent stream and lake fishing is still available within a 3-4 hour driving 
radius.

(If you're in town in January, come by for Emmett Heath and Jack Dennis [co-
sponsored by Clearwater Fly FIshing, the only fly shop in LV: 702/ 388-1022];
Eric Leiser will be in Apri or May; Steve Rajeff in September.)

Bruce Pencek

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"To him, all good things--trout as well as eternal salvation--come by grace 
and grace comes by art and art does not come easy"	--Norman Maclean
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
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Subject: Re: Any Fish in Lake Tahoe(besides the gamblers)?
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:10:23 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <85370003@hpscit.sc.hp.com> spikes@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Bill Spikes) writes:
|Since I may be getting hauled up to the Lake Tahoe area real soon for few 
|days, anyone have any comments, stories, tips, or pointers on the
|fishing there. I wanna fish while the wife is in feeding all the slot machines,
|gaming tables, etc.
|
|There are some small lakes around the biggy, any fish in those?
|
|Any tributaries still attached to the lake? (Water is a little low out here,
|don'cha know?)
|
|Hearing nothing, I'll just look for a tackle shop and ask, I guess.
|
|It'll be with spinning gear, with float/fly. ('Til after Xmas, heh, heh.....)

Stampede and Boca reservoir can be pretty good at times. Boca has some decent
Kokanee fishing.  Martis Creek can also be excellent but has quite a few 
restrictions.  Check the regulations carefully as many of the fisheries
in the area have unique restrictions.  "Trout Season" in California ends
Nov. 15 for most of the rivers and streams in the Sierra's so checking the
reg's becomes even more important.

Here's my suggestion:

San Jose Flycasters is having it's monthly meeting next week and the guest 
speaker is none other than Ralph Cutter.  He'll be discussing Sierra Trout.
Cutter lives in Truckee (or is it Tahoe City).  You can ask him personally
next Wednesday (11/11) about what's good this time of year.  He oughta know.

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From: cowan@cerianthus.pinetree.org (Darin Cowan - root)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Graphite vs Fiberglass Spinning rods
Date: 8 Nov 92 00:16:26 GMT
Organization: The Aquarium, Ottawa, Ontario

dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?) writes:

> of experience in detecting steelhead 'takes'.  If you're only going to be
> fishing for fish less than 6-8 lbs, then why not use graphite?  You probably
> won't wear it out, so go for the sensitive tip!  This applies to most bassers
> and trouters in most of the country.  My own personal OPINION is that graphit

Ummm, yes, you will wear out a graphite rod even with 6-8lb fish if you fish
often.  I know this from experience.

Still, I agree, graphite is better for smaller fish.  It just seems more 
sensitive.
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From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: Graphite vs Fiberglass Spinning rods
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:16:17 GMT

mrt7455@evtprp0b (Michael R Tucker) writes:



>I have been looking at new spinning rods for myself and my kids.  I
>was wondering if anyone had any experience with the Fenwick Willow
>Action line of rods.  When I was starting out (mumble-mumble) years
>ago graphite was out of the question so I am used to fiberglass rods
>with a softer action than similar graphite rods.  Can anyone help me
>out?

	Graphite is much lighter, stiffer, and more brittle.  It is more 
	sensitive if you need to feel a pickup or lure vibrating.  It is
	easier to break/crush than glass from carelessness.  Much less
	tiring to fish with if you fish hard for hours.  Fiberglass is 
	more forgiving to abuse, but neither appreciates a car door
	slammed on the tip.  There isn't much difference in price in
	comparable quality rods anymore.  Graphite can "load up" more
	energy and deliver it to the lure if you are making very long
	casts. -Roger  

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From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
Subject: Re: nymph colors: fly tying
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:57:03 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <15443@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
> 
>I don't recall what Randall Kaufmann (two nn's) he recommends but a flyfishing
>buddy just dropped into my office and we came up with:
>
>natural
>olive
>gold
>black
>
>but couldn't think of a fifth color worth tying.

Natural could mean gray, beige, or brown.  So that make six colors.

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-Wayne Trzyna
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From: fishman@tracker.rtp.dg.com (Mike Fishman)
Subject: Re: Small Outboard Advice Desired. 
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 92 18:44:38 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp., Westboro, MA

In article <1992Oct27.145006.4963@ncsu.edu> plheron@ecemw6.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:
>
>I'm now in the market for a small (10-15hp) outboard to 
>power my 12ft double wide jonboat and would severely (<< let's be sincere here)
>
>My first question is, are the prices fixed, or do the 
>dealers expect to haggle (like automobile buying)?
>

Most dealerships have fixed pricing.. Unless you have a trade-in...
Your prices seem to be in line with what i'd expect to see "up here". You might
be able to say dealer X up the coast will sell it to me for XXX dollars and get
one dealer to match another, but that's about the limits of their flexability..
At least around here (IMHO). USED motors might be an option...

>Who (in your opinion) is the best manufacturer?, and 
>does OMC make Evenrude and Mariner (but not Mercury?).

This is largely a religous question. I've been happy with the 2 Mercury's
I have had. BTW, Mercury = Mariner = Brunswick 
.. and .. Johnson = Evinrude = OMC.
I don't know who makes craftman..

Also, you don't mention suzuki (sp), honda or force. These might be other 
options. BASSMASTER magazine did a report on "little kickers" several months
ago. If you can find it, it might be of use to you..

Let us know what you decide to buy...

Tight Lines.....

						Mike Fishman
				(part-time engineer and full-time fisherman)
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