From: pchang@pdxgp2 (Paul Chang)
Subject: Re: Korean Bashing (Re: All you d*ckhead friend-betraying Koreans!!!)
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:36:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.174216.19751@terminator.cc.umich.edu> ywh@asterix.merit.edu (Woody Huang) writes:
>My previous posting of Article 27567 is corrupted.  Here is the same
>article again.  Sorry for the trouble.
>
>ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!!! This korean bashing thread, often time irrational and
>ridiculous, only shows how narrow-minded and ignorant some oversea taiwanese
>are.  I, also from taiwan, happen to think korean government did what they
>have to do and the fact that they delayed this for so long already cost
>them economic advantage in china.  Now, let's talk about some issues.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My colleague next "door" is from ROK. He told me the general reaction of Korean people
on the ROK-PRC normalization is not so good. He personally doesn't feel ROK will gain
too much from this. He thinks although the potential market in mainland China is there,
how are they going to pay for Korean imports. "... Vegitables? They are too dirty for us
to eat. We can only use them to feed the pigs, and other animals ... A Korean reporter
went to Beijing on the assignment for the ROK-PRC normalization. He lost all the luggages
but nobody working in the Airport speaks English. He complained about how bad the Beijing
Airport is compared to CKS Int. Airport in Taiwan and why his country wants establish
formal diplomatic relationship with China."

Some people may argue about the other resources cheap labor in mainland. ROC is taking
advantage of it. USA and Europe are takingadvantage of it. I don't see how ROK will gain
more after this.

.....

>2. The embassy incident
>	
>	Taiwan government did not pay a dime to possess the embassy
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>property.  The property was inherited from the old china (Ching Dynasty)
                             ^^^^^^^^^
>therefore belongs to the government who korean goverment think
>represents the old china.  And it certainly isn't taiwan anymore.
>Just like the seat of UN Security Council that should be occupied by
>the government who correctly represents china, what belongs to china
>goes to china.  Tainwan couldn't win a law sue, if she should try, for
>any heritage of china's because china is the heir to china and taiwan
>is not( Get it? china == china, taiwan != china).  Just because there's
>a huge amout of money involved, the logic cannot be reversed and 
>china gladly will make sure it isn't happening.

I don't think there's any wrong to keep something you inherited without paying a dime.
The ROC government inherited from Ching Dynasty, a government doesn't even exist for
80+ years. But the ROC government is still there, even though on an island not many US HS
students could locate, even though not many countries recognize her. 

May I tell a parable in parallel with the ROC embassy in Seoul. 

Randy's uncle Charlie died and no will had been filed. Since Randy is the closest relative
to Charlie, he inherited a big ranch, a castle on the mountain and a small farm house on
a huge piece of land owned by Kenny. One day a mobster named Carl forced Randy out of his
big ranch and occupied it. Randy escaped to his castle on the top of the mountain, closed
the gate then planned to fight back. Unfortunatelly, Carl was too powerful so Randy could
only dream about reclaiming the ranch. The castle was strong enough to shield Randy from
Carl's attack. People in the neighborhood feared for their own lives and consented Carl's
crime.

Randy went to the farm house to fix some leaks and also to take care of the crops on
his small lot around it. Carl became very mad after not being able to take over the
castle. So he decided to grab that little farm house. He threatened Kenny to burn down
everything on the farm land if Kenny would not cooperate with him. Kenny could only
agree to let Carl do whatever he wanted to. 

Randy tried to sell his farm house to some farmers working on the land but Kenny blocked
the deal. Randy was forced to use the last resort: taking possesion of Kenny's hut on
his land on the mountain top, where the castle was located. Randy's nephew yelled at him,
"You did not pay a penny on anything. Why don't you give Carl everything, maybe including
you castle, if you want to stay in this town".

.....

>
>world.  South korean, as a nation, has every right to pursue a
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>better chance to survive as a future economic power and their
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>decision is a legitimate one.  The problem in with taiwan, not koreans.
>It's taiwanese job to stop burying their heads in the ground and
>start to see the world as it is, not some kind of mythological
>cartoon painted by the government.  It is taiwanese' job to start
>thinking why we are what we are and how we can do better instead of
>crying why everybody else keep doing injustice to us and how we can
>treat them back with irrational remarks.


And the Republic of China, as a nation, has every right to retaliate, and to recover
what she has lost in 'keeping a long time "friend?"' by giving it all kinds of favors.

>
>All flames welcome, personal attacks use email please.
>
>- woody
>
>BTW, south korea, as perceived by the rest of the world, has a much
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>better chance in becoming a world leading economic power in the
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>future than taiwan.  Just thought some taiwanese egoists might want to
>know.
>


You mean they have the potential to duplicate the economic miracle ROC has accomplished
with less "people" power (man power if you want to anger the militant feminist), natural
resources and capital than Korea has.


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