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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: So Few
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:50:14 GMT

smehta@nynexst.com writes:
>Ayler, Albert
>Title: The Last Album
> [...]
>      Bobby Few, piano (on all except 1.)

This is the first time I see Few's name outside of the Steve Lacy
Sextet.  I love his playing on record and he was very impressive in
person, when I saw the sextet suring last summer's US tour.

Anyone care to tell me more about this fine musician?

--Gidi

PS: When he played with SL I noticed that his sheet music books conatined,
    in addition to the regular lines and notes, some pictures and photos.
    Looked good.

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: owen@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Live music in SF, 10/24-29
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:44:00 GMT

What's happening in the way of live jazz/blues/r&b/reggae/african/zydeco
in the SF Bay Area Oct. 24-29?  The bar schedules in the most recent
Sunday Chronicle/Examiner I've managed to get my hands on didn't have
much info on the end of the month.  I've only seen one thing interesting
so far -- Joe Louis Walker at Slim's on the 24th.  What else is going
on?  (I won't have a car, so I guess I'm really just interested in
SF proper, unless Ry Cooder or Sun Ra are playing somewhere nearby ;-).

Larry Owen

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote,rec.music.folk
From: tenny@euclid.uucp (Nathan Tenny)
Subject: Robert Johnson - "President McKinley"
Followup-To: rec.music.folk
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Oregon
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 00:38:04 GMT


In the liner notes to the Robert Johnson collection, someone mentions that
Johnson, before he recorded, used to play something called "President
McKinley," "a slide song derived from 'Frankie and Johnny.'"  Has anything
about this song survived---did anyone else record it, or anything?

I'm not too sure how one would derive a slide song from "Frankie and Johnny,"
nor what President McKinley would have to do with it.

Thanks

	NT

(Note crossposting; followups directed to rec.music.folk.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: Re: James Moody album wanted
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:20:15 GMT

sue@snafu.seada.com (Sue Raul) writes:
>I'm looking for a James Moody album: "Feelin' It Together,"
>Muse 5020.  Don't know the year or if it's in print/re-issued.
>Anyone know it, have it, seen it for sale anywhere (used?)?

5020 is not listed in the latest Muse catalog I have, so it probalby
hasn't been reissued on CD. Most (all) of the vinyl only issues from Muse
were cut out a year ago or so in their "Final Vinyl" sale. So, you'll
have to check the used LP bins for this one.

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: Re: Larry Young
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:46:33 GMT

>  Howard> Boy would I like to find a copy of UNITY by Larry Young on CD.
>  Howard> Can anyone help? (Thanks in advance...)
>
>It has been on CD for a few years but was recently cut out.

It's a more expensive route to go, but the material is part of the 6 (?)
CD Larry Young box on Mosaic.

>................... Nice job, Blue Note.

While I would also like to see every good jazz album in print for ever
(and at one time both Blue Note and OJC said they intended to keep
the reissues in print indefinitely), but hte economic facts of life
make it difficult (if not impossible) to maintain inventory and have
retailers maintain inventory for items with very low sales; it might be
easier for a pure mail order house (like Mosaic) to do this.

The economics were made even worse by changes in the tax rules that came with
the Reagan tax package a several years ago that essentially said that the
record companies could not deduct the cost of producing the records until
they actually sold them, further raising the cost of manufacturing for
inventory and later sale; it is also expensive to have a number of small
production runs rather than one larger one, so either way they lose.

This change in tax laws had a major effect on both the recording and book
industries, and since then both recordings and books have gone out of print
much faster than in the past.

So, it is unfortunate, but I think that Blue Note and OJC have been doing
a much better job than expected in keeping things in print. All the more
reason to pick something up today until waiting till next year :-).
[BTW, OJC actually selects some reissues that they don't expect to sell
well enough to keep in print and package them with an indicaiton that
they will not stay in print, so they give you fair warning.]

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: wrp@pslsrv1.gvl.unisys.com (Bill Pringle)
Subject: Re: Tannahill Weavers news and views from last nights concert in Milwaukee
Organization: Paramax Systems, Ivyland, PA
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:38:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.195607.10262@mixcom.com> Steven.Schultz <Steven.Schultz@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>Last night, as part of the Tannahill Weavers 1992 U.S. tour, they
>stopped here in Milwaukee, WI. The concert was fantastic, and the
>sound was great. I had to work there, but I caught most of it. A

>October   4  Philadelphia, PA: The Cherry Tree (215) 641-0497
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The phone number I have for the Cherry Tree is (215)386-1640
I just called there this morning and it worked.  The other number may
work as well.
============================================================================
Bill Pringle                      Software Tools
Paramax Corporation               Voice: (215)443-7500 X4023
Internet: wrp@ivy.unisys.com      UUCP: ...!uunet!mimsy!widener!gvls1!wrp%ivy
From: riddle@is.rice.edu (Prentiss Riddle)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: What ever became of Uncle Bonsai?
Date: 4 Oct 92 15:45:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ministry of Information, William's Marsh

One of the funnier folk acts around a few years ago was Uncle Bonsai, a
guitar and vocal based trio of two women and a man from somewhere in
the Northwest.  They got lots of airplay on local folk shows here in
Texas, at least, but they seem to have faded out of the scene.  I heard
a while back that they broke up, but I don't know the details.  Have
their members gone on to other things?

Their album "Boys Want Sex in the Morning" is still listed in PhonoLog
as being in print on LP and cassette, but not CD.  Does anyone know if
it is in fact available (in any format), and if so where?

(The only sample of their work which I know is readily available is one
cut on the Windham Hill folk compilation "Legacy".)

Any help you can give in tracking them down would be appreciated.
Please reply by mail and I will summarize if there is interest.
Thanks.

-- Prentiss Riddle ("aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada") riddle@rice.edu
-- Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of my employer.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
Subject: Re: "Puff the Magic Dragon" == Marijuana?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:07:57 GMT

It appears that newsgroups have short institutional memory: this same
question was torn to shreds right here about a month ago.  So maybe what
I said then will bear repetition:  The line "A dragon lives forever, but
not so little boys" is far more subversive than anything to do with dope,
because it implicitly equates growing up with death.  Ultimately &
literally, that equation is perfectly true, but as a metaphor it is
perhaps a bit scary.

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jo@88opensi.88open.ORG (Jo Stockley)
Subject: Re: New June Tabor album??
Reply-To: jo@88opensi.UUCP (Jo Stockley)
Organization: 88open Consortium Ltd., San Jose
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 92 22:58:13 GMT

In article <19qn68INN551@agate.berkeley.edu> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:
>I hear there's a new June Tabor album.
>
>Anybody know any details??  Title/Label etc???
>Mail order information????
>

On the subject of June Tabor, I looking for an album she did back in 78/79 with
Martin Simpson. I seem to remember that the cover was a photo of them on a 
bridge over the Thames. It would be really great to know it was still
available (on CD perhaps?).

Jo
From: jmf@endor.harvard.edu ( ghost )
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Has anyone besides Finn McCool done "The Shearing"?
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:30:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Sep29.173052.15149
Organization: DAS Purchasing, Harvard University

In article <Bv2Dp4.7yA@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:
>
>
>a duet called "The Shearing" by a long-gone band called Finn McCool.
>Has anyone else recorded this song, and is it available anywhere? Also,
>does anyone know the lyrics? If you won't post them, tell us what the
>story was...
>"The shearing's not for you my bonnie lassie-O.."

Dick Gaughan (undoubtably mis-spelled) does a real nice version in
concert, that is, he did it the only time I've seen him on tour here
in NA, which was already several years ago, & that is, if you can call
it a nice version when its a typically condescending
"I got you pregnant & now I'm telling you how to live" song...
Gaughan does it with a fair amount of despairing irony, which is
about the only approach that will work in this day & age,
or should have in any.

The story, in a nutshell, is that the man is cataloging all the
things the woman can't do..
& these are things she has to do, to afford to live...
now that "your belly is round & full", etc.
That they're not married almost goes without saying...
From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Dave Pegg's "Cocktail Cowboy" CD wanted
Date: 1 Oct 1992 23:33:46 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


The subject header says it all. Send e-mail if you have this CD
for sale or know where I can get it. Thanks. Thanks a lot. :)

-- 
aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu  ///  WANTED:  Tull tickets for
:::::::Dan Doooovall:::::::  ///          Chicago (10/10/92)
From: mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Recorder vs. Penny Whistle question
Date: 26 Sep 1992 16:53:32 GMT
Organization: N.I.C.E.
Reply-To: mike@fionn.lbl.gov (Michael Helm)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.128.60

miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>a) Is it true that Celtic music on the penny whistle requires (if it
>is to be "properly" played) that you avoid tongueing entirely and keep

There are certainly players, or maybe regional styles, that do
little tonguing but all players I have talked to do it.  I think
I hear everybody doing it -- I'm not sure I can always hear it
& of course I'm not that often actually trying to monitor someone's
technique.

I would find it hard not to tongue certain changes -- it's probably
a reflection on my poor technique or the physics of my whistle, but
the transition wouldn't sound rite.  BPHZUT!
From: dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Daniel Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: "Eppie Morrie" (was Re: Indoctrination of the Young: Bawdy Lyrics)
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:41:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: andromed.Oct.2.11.41.36.1992.3875
Organization: Rutgers University, Graduate School of Management, Newark, N.J.

In <BvGI9I.Dz1@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
 (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>Actually I'd argue that "Eppie Morrie" on [a CD by Sileas, the female
>Scottish harp duo] is about as suggestive...

I don't know Sileas or this CD, but there's a version of "Eppie Morrie"
(Child 223) in Peggy Seeger & Ewan MacColl's _The_Singing_Island_
(London: Mills Music Ltd.), 1960, a book that I recently mentioned in
another thread.  This version comes from the singing of William Miller
of Stirling and Samuel Wylie of Falkirk, Stirlingshire, and has three
verses not found in Child, who got his version from Maidment's _A_
_North_Country_Garland_ (1824).  With those verses, the song is much
more than suggestive; it's pretty explicit.  Here's what happens after
Willie's men have kidnapped Eppie Morrie and laid her and Willie in
one bed:

10. He's ta'en the sark frae aff his back and kicked awa' his shoon,
    And thrawn awa' the chaumer key, and naked he lay doon.

11. "Haud awa' frae me, Willie!  Haud awa' frae me!
    Before I'll lose my maidenheid, I'll try my strength with thee."

12. He kissed her on the lily breist and held her shouthers twa,
    And aye she grat and aye she spat and turned to the wa'.

13. "Haud awa' frae me, Willie!  Haud awa' frae me!
    Before I lose my maidenheid, I'll fecht wi' you till day."

14. A' through the nicht they warssled there until the licht o' day,
    And Willie grat and Willie swat but he couldna streitch her spey.

And then the maid comes in and learns that Willie couldn't take her
maidenhead and criticizes him, and then Eppie Morrie gets away.  It's
a great song, with a driving tune that fits it perfectly.
-- 
Daniel M. Rosenblum, Assistant Professor, Quantitative Studies Area,
   Graduate School of Management, Rutgers University (Newark Campus)
ROSENBLUM@DRACO.RUTGERS.EDU                      ROSENBLUM@ZODIAC.BITnet
dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu          ...!rutgers!andromeda.rutgers.edu!dmr
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,rec.music.makers
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: CD vs tape
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 13:50:42 GMT


My current buying habit is to avoid tape if there is a CD available.
Yes, I would and have bought tapes recently when that was the ONLY medium
available for a group that I particularly liked, but that is clearly
the exception.  For more and more people I suspect that the CD is
the preferred medium.

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: jcf@world.std.com (Joseph C Fineman)
Subject: Re: Acres of Clams
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:17:42 GMT

The tune to Acres of Clams is an old one, and usually is referred to
by the name "Rosin the Beau" (perhaps once "Rosin my Bow?"), which is
the name of one (the oldest?) set of words to it.  The same tune was
used as Lincoln's campaign song (Lincoln & Liberty Too), I suppose in
1860.  I think I have also heard words sung to it in dispraise of
nuclear reactors.  That Phil Ochs took two lines of it & worked them
into another song falls far short of being felonious.

Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: eamon@netcom.com (Charles E Taggart)
Subject: Re: sean nos ceol
Summary: Here's some others and sources ...
Keywords: sean nos ceol Irish Gaeilge Gaelic singing
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 06:30:01 GMT

Sean Kelley wrote: (Du/irt Sea/n O/ Ceallaigh:)

>  I've enjoyed listening to Mairead Ni Mhaonaigh and Maire Ni Bhraonain
>  and I was wondering what other groups besides ALTAN and CLANNAD perform 
>  traditional Gaeilge songs? (in Gaeilge of course)
>
>                     Bhoil, la maith anois agat!
>
>                           is mise
>                                   Sean

A Shea/in, a chara,

You might want to look for recordings on the Gael-Linn label; their
releases include quite a lot of singing "as Gaeilge".

Two outstanding recent releases are by Maighread Ni/ Dhomhnaill, GAN DHA/
PHINGIN SPRE/ - NO DOWRY; and by Deirbhile Ni/ Bhrolcha/in, SMAOINTE.

One of my favorite Irish singers is Triona Ni/ Dhomhnaill, formerly of the
Bothy Band, Touchstone and Relativity ... all of their albums are
available domestically in the US through Green Linnet Records, 43 Beaver
Brook Road, Danbury CT 06810.  Their mail-order catalogue is free.

I don't know whether or not you can mail-order directly from Gael-Linn,
but you might be able to convince them to send you a list of their
recordings.  They're address is: Gael-Linn, 26 Cearno/g Mhuirfean, Baile
A/tha Cliath 2, E/ire.

One good mail-order source in Ireland is a great little record store in
Galway:  Mulligan Records, 1 Cross Street, Galway, Ireland (tel/fax 
011-353-91-64961 from the US).  Tell Mike over there that I said hi.

Also, for pure, authentic unaccompanied sean-nos singing, one of the best
sources is a company in Connemara called Clo/ Iar-Chonnachta Teo.,
Indreabha/n, Conamara, Co. na Gaillimhe, E/ire (tel 011-353-91-93307; fax
011-353-91-93362).  Their extensive catalogue is free, and they carry
oodles of titles by sean-nos singers (mostly on cassette only at this
point, unfortunately, but they are beginning to release CDs).  They also
sell books, cards, etc. and have an extensive collection of novels, short
stories and poetry in Irish.

(BTW, a/, e/, etc. are online substitutes for vowels with fadas, i.e.
accented characters, online as used on GAELIC-L)

A/dh mo/r leat!

-- Chuck

-- 
          ,                                          
  Charles Eamon Taggart   | "Time and space are playing games with people 
     eamon@netcom.com     |  who don't understand / You can't talk about
   eamont@well.sf.ca.us   |  the weather when you've killed the weatherman."
 Santa Monica, California |                      -- Toasted Heretic
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From: ccsdgdc@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Douglas Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Carthy; Swarbrick
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:21:12 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK


I have bought the new CD Skin and Bone. There are no outstanding tracks.
What it is is a highly competent piece of Martin Carthy/Dave Swarbrick
music. But nothing to match Prince Heathen.
I think Martin must have run out of songs. But the
album is a must for all the fans. On Topic's Special Delivery label.
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: tombrady@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (Tom Brady)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: On-Line Tour Schedules!
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:55:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41





Dirty Linen Magazine ("Folk, Electric Folk, Traditional, and
World Music") has just made their monthly tour schedule update
available from and anonymous ftp site. This is a comprehensive
listing that usually comes out to about ten pages of small type.
Looking through the latest one (updated August 24, 1992), there's
dates for Ad Vielle Que Pourra, Patrick Ball, The Bobs, Danza
Azteca de Anahuac, Alex de Grassi, Bela Fleck & the Flecktones,
John Gorka, Second City Touring Company, Walter "Wolfman" 
Washington, and many others - I'd estimate about 250 artists
listed, with dates, venues, and contact phone numbers listed.
To access the files, ftp to nysernet.org, and log in as
"anonymous". When prompted for a password, enter your net
ID (i.e. brady@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu). The info is in the 
/folk_music/dirty_linen subdirectory, listed as DLCALxxx.txt
and DLCALxxx.wp, where xxx is the 3-character abbreviation for
the month, .txt are text files, and .wp are wordperfect files.
(note the .wp files must be downloaded as binary files).
Please note that when using FTP, it is proper protocol not to attempt
access (i.e. tie up their machine) between 6AM and 6PM local
time (in this case, Eastern time: Greenwich Mean Time -5)

These listings are provided by the artists, or their booking agencies.
To be included, send your tour info to Dirty Linen, P.O. Box 66600,
Baltimore, MD 21239-6600  USA. While there is no charge to run your
tour information, "it would be polite to buy a subscription."
Sorry - the schedule currently includes only tour dates in the
U.S. and Canada (this might change - talk to the editor).
The deadline to be included in the Dec/Jan issue is October 16,
December 24 to be in the Feb/March issue.
If anyone has any further questions about these schedules, I'd
be happy to answer them, or point you to someone who can.
-Tom Brady, folkaholic
Disclaimer: Although I write for DL occassionally, I am not paid 
            by them - these are merely the ramblings of a 
            satisfied customer.
From: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED.
Date: 7 Oct 92 04:12:08 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> aakhan@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>
> But if we
> are talking about the bi's in music the following should be included
>

Peter Townsend.

As for non-bi's, I haven't seen Johnny Mathis's name here yet.

--
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Robert Broughton    Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca

"We calm and reassure. We embrace people with the message that we're
all in it together. That our leaders are infallible and that there is
nothing, absolutely nothing wrong." - Miles Drentell, _thirtysomething_
From: rm4@st-andrews.ac.uk (Rosa Michaelson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Has anyone besides Finn McCool done "The Shearing"?
Summary: Yes
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:47:24 GMT
Organization: honest - not St. Andrews University

Nearly EVERY scottish folk singer has sung 'no for you'...
Rod Paterson, Sheena wellington, Archie Fisher, Ray Fisher, Cilla Fisher,
Gordeena McCullogh, Aileen Carr, Maureen Jelks, Ossian, Jock Tamson's Bairns
(well perhaps not..), The Corries, Paddy Bell, The Campell Trio, Jean redpath,
..and loadsa of non scots too, including June Tabor....
And the story is that the lass is pregnant so she cant bend over 
to work....
Xref: sparky rec.music.folk:6818 rec.music.misc:24702
From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Terrific Carla Sciaky concert at Passim in Harvard Square
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:13:48 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Thursday night's Carla Sciaky concert at Passim in Harvard
Square was excellent.  She played a lot of tunes from her
new CD, along with her older hit songs.  This was the first
time I heard her sing live, although I have heard her a number
of times on the various Boston area folk music radio stations.

She adds a lot of interest to her performance by switching
instruments from an acoustic guitar to a fiddle to some other
instrument, with which I am not familiar.  (It was rather like
a small accordian maybe six inches wide, with push button keys
on the ends.  It sounded very interesting.)

I'll definitely go to see her the next time she is at Passim.
She's based in Colorado and currently on tour.

(I think John Hammond is performing at Passim this weekend.)

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
From: ashleydrees@gn.apc.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: citterns
Date: 26 Sep 92 13:58:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:s3F5qB4w164w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca:-348575673:gn:1312500005:000:968
Nf-From: gn.UUCP!ashleydrees    Sep 26 14:58:00 1992


> Anyone have any idea where to start looking to buy a cittern?
Also, can >I have a vague idea of the price I'd be looking at for
a new one?

Well, I really do not know about prices US.  I own and play two
Stephan Sobell instruments and love them.  I've checked out loads
of different makes (UK) and I still think he is best for the
"Folk" cittern, I.e. Four course tuned in fifths, probably the
same scale length as a Tenor or Plectrum banjo.  If you get one of
these new he always tries to sell the spruce topped ones, both
mine have cedar tops made from cello blocks (blank, matched
fronts) and you cannot beat them for tone.....

Stephan Sobell 44-434673-338  and 44-434673-567      It's a while
since I spoke to him, but I know he ships direct to the states.
At the moment I believe there is a waiting list.

What sort of music will you be playing on it?

Good Luck.

Mandolins Rule.................
Ashley.Drees@p10.f51.n440.z2.Fidonet.Org ashleydrees@gn.uucp