From: U35085@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: soc.women
Subject: need a survival guide for women
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:43:26 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 17 Jul 1992 15:05:33 CDT
From: <U35085@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.women
Subject: Need a woman survial guide??????????

Knowing how to begin this is probally just as hard as the answer.  As I'm sure
you can tell by now that I from the male species, I will say this about me. I
come to you all in good faith and hope that you will be able to help me find
answer to probally the most naging question that has bothered all men.  First
let me clarify that I could have gone to soc.men and asked these questions but
believe me men really don't know the anwsers.  We just pretend we do.  What we
really do is just get together talk about how much we don't understand women.
I used to think that women were just a race of simplistic creatures that could
be read easier than a childerns book.  That was until my first girlfriend, who
showed me that women are a very complicated and highly social evolved group.
This along with my mothers very independent way of thinking, started me on a
quest to have a better understanding of women. I grew to respect them, to love
them, to admire them in every context of life.  I felt as though I crossed or
better yet learned to live among them, only to find out that the closer I got
the farther they were.  Well I spent a good 11 years of my life trying to
understand them.  Eventually becoming by women standards a "nice guy", which
by male standards is the kiss of death. Don't get me wrong I am very
independent and I have had my share of girlfriends, mostly long term
relationships.  Thats not the problem, the problem started when I was young
and my mother instilled in me that women were to be put on a pedistal and to be
regard as gods gift to mankink.  This in itself was not so bad, until latter in
life girls left me because they said "I was to nice and deserved someone better
Well this leads me up to the point when I thought I finally found the women of
my dream, as a matter of fact she asked me to marry her.  I agreed of course
thinking that my quest was over.  Well that ended about 2.5 years ago, when
she told me that as much as she cared for me that she felt that she still need
to be free.  Now being the wise and well traveled person that I am, I guess I
should have seen it coming, in fact I do believe I did know, but keep it to
myself so as to help grow and mature.  I don't hate her or even blame her for
it.  I know deep down inside that she is the better for it.  Well like I said
that ended about 2.5 years ago.  One last thing there is a lot more about my
marriage that I didn't put in, that because in the end the result it still came
out the same, plus I don't want to hear any comments on I was to nice of a guy.
Now back to the future, you see I have only dated once in those 2.5 years I
mean as in one date.  This date went fine until I started to call her and
then realized that she was just using me. So I stop before a second date. This
leads me up to now. Most of my friends say that I'm such a nice guy and that it
is the womens loss not mine.  Well anyway the question why do women say they
are looking for a certain type of guy and then turn around go the complete
other way.  I mean you hear most women say " I'm looking for a sensitive caring
loving guy who is romantic and has a good sense of humor".  When in acuallity
they really mean "I'm looking for a atheletic, good looking, and rich guy".
Please don't tell me either that "you must be looking for the wrong girls"
becuase I've been at both ends of the spectrum.  What do you women really want?
My qualities are 1)intelligent 2)avg looks 3)great sense of humor 4)pretty much
will try anything once. 5)sentimental 6)caring.  Unfortunately this is not what
most women are looking for.  Do all women think that they are so beautiful that
they desever no less.  An do you all think that there are that many good quys
to go around.  I hate to tell you I don't think so. Anyway If I could please
get some response whether bad or not it would still be appreciated. I know
that alot of men think about this but are to macho to ask, I think it has to do
with something about asking directions when we get lost.  Well thank you for
bearing with me through this artical.  Actually it could have gone on forever.


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