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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:51:49 -0600
Reply-To:     Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Subject:      Searching for information in ROOTS-L Archives
Comments: To: Genealogy Information <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Dave and Readers:

Reference part of this message:

--->>  Searching old messages for information !!

> From wv.MENTORG.COM!daver Thu Jan  7 19:42:59 1993
> In article <m0nA6Lk-0003yjC@csoftec.csf.com> you write:
> >OK, but first of all, anything on any subject that anyone has ever
> >sent on ROOTS-L is still available, and you may use search procedures
> >to find any information required.
>
> Do you have any pointers/suggestions on how I might do that?
> I do have direct ftp access via the Internet.

And many other people do not have ftp access, but it is very easy
to request a search of all or part of the data (messages sent to ROOTS-L)
by simply putting a date in your request message.

The file below has been posted before, but not for about one year, and
it has been a GENEALOG file "srchfile" (with a likely filename) for a
longtime.   I put this file together, but there are many other
parameters which may be used also....   This way is easy and its works !

Here is the file, and good luck to all...   cliff
>-=-=-=

//  appended here:   GENEALOG file:  SRCHFILE

8 April 1992

How to search for TEXT using the LISTSERV computer.

Maybe you have received several messages, about your referenced
message, but hopefully none more helpful than this one ! ! !

Lately I have shown the net how to search for things which have previously
been in a message on the net.  Guess you missed those messages, anyway
you have the capability to search for a name, word or a phrase which
has ever been on ROOTS-L, and the VM1 computer system will reply to
you only.   The big thing here, it only takes about 2 minutes for
the answer to be returned as a message to you.

If you read the entire message - you will know how to do this procedure.

Here's the way you do it ! ! !

Well, send a regular text message to:  Listserv@vm1.nodak.edu

with ONLY the following information as text of the message:


// job  echo=no
database search dd=rules
//rules dd   *
search jones in roots-l since 89/01/01
index



------------------  explanation below -----------------
ok, if you send that to the address above, it would search
through the roots-l database files and return you a msg with
the message number which have the work jone or Jones of JONES in
them.   And it it say that msg 1234 and msg 2566 has been found
then send the same thing again with the following after the
line 'index'
print 1234
print 2566




.....now, here is what I sent in requesting the search for you.....


// job  echo=no
database search dd=rules
//rules dd   *
search duffield in roots-l since 89/01/01
index




      When you receive a message back from VM1, telling you which
      messages have your information, it will have the following
      two message numbers.

         # 9012 and 9356.

         Those were the two messages which have the word "duffield"
         in the text.

      ....and the response from VM1 will include a listing of all the
      messages which have the word "duffield" in the text, then you send
      the exact same message again to VM1 and tell it which one you want
      sent back to you in this form.


// job  echo=no
database search dd=rules
//rules dd   *
search duffield in roots-l since 89/01/01
index
print 9012
print 9356



     Now you send the above message back to VM1, and the computer system
     will reply in about 1 minute with the following message to you
     which includes the information you want.



>> Date:         Mon, 17 Feb 1992 00:21:23 -0600
>> Subject:      File: "DATABASE OUTPUT" being sent to you
>> To: Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>

> search duffield in roots-l since 88/01/01
--> Database ROOTS-L, 2 hits.

> index
Item #   Date   Time  Recs   Subject
------   ----   ----  ----   -------
009012 92/01/27 21:39  113   tt file
009356 92/02/16 21:20   10   Duffield request lost

> print 9012
>>> Item number 9012, dated 92/01/27 21:39:19 -- ALL
>>Date:         Mon, 27 Jan 1992 21:39:19 GMT
>>Reply-To:     ROOTS-L Genealogy List <ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
>>Sender:       ROOTS-L Genealogy List <ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
>>Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
>>From:         Dave Allen <dallen@PVEC.BRIDGEWATER.NS.CA>
>>Subject:      tt file

Hello:
Here is my contribution to the request to post Tiny Tafel
files.  Hoping to find someone with a match.
N David G. Allen
A P.O. Box 217,
A Mahone Bay, Nova Scotia
A B0J 2E0
T (902)624-9612
F Family History System (D:ANCESTOR.NAM)
...../(some text of this message removed for this example)/.....
E-Mail: dallen@pvec.bridgewater.ns.ca

> print 9356
>>> Item number 9356, dated 92/02/16 21:20:26 -- ALL
>>Date:         Sun, 16 Feb 1992 21:20:26 CST
>>Reply-To:     ROOTS-L Genealogy List <ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
>>Sender:       ROOTS-L Genealogy List <ROOTS-L@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
>>From:         "PATRICK HAMEL" <HAMEL@USMCP6.BITNET>
>>Subject:      Duffield request lost

forgive me for the broadcast posting, I lost the request from someone
interested in the Duffield family. Please resend it.
PAT HAMEL<HAMEL@USMCP6.BITNET>

>
I'm sure this will help you in the future, there are several HELP
files in the GENEALOG area, which will show how to do genealogical
things in a easier way.
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