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From: sharen@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Sharen A. Rund)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Keywords: steak south bay
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:33:42 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.014847.23802@leland.Stanford.EDU> dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen) writes:
>
>Has anybody tried Scott's Grill on Bayfront near Embarcadero,
>right across from Ming's Villa? My office is right near there
>and I've been curious about this place since we moved here.

sorry, I've only been to their place onVan Ness & Scott in SF -
good seafood.....
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From: billb@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Bill Black)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Sushi
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:31:47 GMT
Distribution: ba

I recently saw a place named "We Be Sushi", located next to the LUCKY
supermarket at El Camino and Remington in Sunnyvale.  Has anyone been
there?  Heard anything about it?

Also, can someone direct me to a place in Monterrey, Pacific Grove that
serves Dim Sum?

Bill
From: lmtra@uts.amdahl.com (Leon Traister)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Req: Young's Cafe (Chinese)
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:23:03 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Aug15.173334.1@fnalb.fnal.gov> maxwell@fnalb.fnal.gov writes:
>Years ago I used to visit a little Chinese restaurant called Young's Cafe.
>It was almost esclusively patronized by Chinatown locals, and the anglo menu
>was a single mimeographed (!) sheet of paper. 
>
>I was frequently the only Chinese-impaired customer. They served up the best
>hot-and-sour soup that I've ever tasted. And they didn't have the execrable
>phrase "Authentic Chinese Food" anywhere.
>
>I wish I could remember the location... I just remember that it was a corner.
>
>Anyone know if it's still there?
>

I believe it is.  It's at 601 Kearny St.

Another similar place just a block towards Broadway from Young's and
interesting because of its noodle dishes is the DPC.
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<Usual Disclaimer>        "The best is the enemy of the good" - Voltaire

Leon Traister (lmtra@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com)

c/o Amdahl Corporation            (408)737-5449
1250 E. Arques Ave.  M/S 338
P.O. Box 3470
Sunnyvale, CA  94088-3470
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Plum Garden/Lucky House, Mountain View
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:28:32 GMT

So my boss says to me yesterday at lunchtime, "Wanna go out for some
bad dim sum?" I said, "Sure."  Hey, who can resist an offer like that?

Lovers of bad dim sum will be disappointed, though, to hear that the
Plum Garden (now Lucky House) is not serving dim sum at lunchtime,
at least not until their newly-hired dim sum chef arrives.  PG/LH
is in a strange transitional period; they've remodeled the interior
of the restaurant somewhat, but they're still serving from the old
Plum Garden lunch special menu.  The help seems a little confused.
I asked if the Peking Beef came with rice noodles, and the server
said, "No, no.  Fried rice."

It came, as always, on a bed of rice noodles.

PG/LH now bills itself as a seafood restaurant, perhaps trying to
distinguish itself from other run-of-the-mill Castro Street
establishments.

It really hasn't been a good year for bad dim sum devotees:
Peace Restaurant at El Camino and Rengstorff has been closed for
some time now.  Luckily, you can easily replicate the bad dim sum
experience by going to Hong Sing Tea House on Lawrence Expressway
and insisting on being put at a table in the back room.

Charleen
--
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Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.food.drink,alt.beer
From: chilton@crc.ricoh.com (Jeff Chilton)
Subject: Re: Soliciting Opinions on Tied House "Mini-Kegs"
Organization: RICOH California Research Center
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 23:57:34 GMT

charly@hal.COM (Charly Rhoades) writes:
> Has anyone any opinions they'd like to offer regarding the new
> small keg sizes that the Tied House purveys?  We're thinking of
> getting one for a modest get-together this weekend.  I'm 
> particularly curious how closely the drink from these containers
> matches that dispensed at the pub itself.  Also, I didn't get
> a close look at how the tap mechanism works....  Other details
> are welcome too.


   What a silly keg.  The pump goes on the top, and the spigot out the
   side at the bottom. If you want to keep it cold this creates some real
   problems.  What we did was put it in a plastic tub and add ice as
   usual, but in order to attach the spigot, we had to cut a hole in the
   side of the tub near the bottom, put the keg in the tub, attach the
   spigot, then fill the tub with ice.  In all it took 3 engineers to do
   this (which means probably one non-engineer or 25 managers :-)).

   Treat the keg gingerly, and don't pump it much.  Beer does not travel
   well, and this stuff will be all foam with too much pressure.
   Its not the greatest beer in the world, but its 10 million times
   better than the p**s water one usually finds at a kegger.
From: js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Why do people like spicy-hot food?
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:01:51 GMT

Someone in ba.food asked why people deliberately eat very
spicy food.  I am crossposting this reply more widely
because it's a Frequently Asked Question in my experience.

My friend Dr. Frank Etscorn, a psychopharmacologist at New
Mexico Tech (and inventor of the nicotine transderm), has
done considerable research into the physiological basis
of capsaicin addiction.

Capsaicin is the chemical in chiles [1] that gives you the
burn.  No one starts out liking heat, it's definitely an
acquired taste.  When I started school at New Mexico Tech, I
couldn't stand it.  But since chiles were everywhere
(especially in the cafeteria), I got used to it, and
eventually got to be quite hooked.

Dr. Etscorn has devised an experimental procedure that
proves that the basis of chile addiction is that the heat
releases endorphins, the heroin-like natural painkillers
that are also said to cause addiction to strenuous exercise.

He divides a group of chile addicts into two groups.  The
control group eats a bunch of hot food and then they sit
around with big grins on their faces.  The experimental
group is given a drug that blocks the action of endorphins,
and it wipes the grins off *their* faces in a big hurry.
Suddenly they are in the kind of pain that someone from
Cincinnati would experience if they drank from a bottle of
tabasco.

[1] Spelling flame note: in New Mexico we spell the word
"chile" because that's how the Spanish word for the fruit is
spelled.  "Chili" is not Mexican food, it's something they
eat in Cincinnati and other gringo towns.  Rowena Baca,
co-owner of the Owl Bar in San Antonio, NM (home of the
world's finest green chile cheeseburger and, IMHO, the
world's best burger, period), refers to "chili" as "gringo
bean soup."  Order a bowl of chile in *her* establishment
and you get a bowl of green chiles with just a tiny bit of
ground meat and garlic for flavor.  You want beans [2], you
order beans.

[2] While we're on the subject of beans, her beans don't
give you gas.  To prevent flatus, soak dried pinto beans
overnight, then discard the soaking water and add fresh
water for cooking.

John Shipman (john@nmt.edu)
From: esr@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Edwin S. Russell)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Czech restaurant near Pt. Reyes
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:00:50 GMT

It has been a while since we have been to Pt. Reyes area but I think I  
remember a Czech restaurant on the road out there, Inverness perhaps?  As I  
recall it came highly recommended.

If my memory isn't playing tricks, can anyone remember the name of it?  Is it  
still there?  Anyone been there recently?  
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)
Subject: Re: pomp w/o the circumstance
Organization: Taligent, a little subsidiary of two really big companies.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:36:34 GMT

In article <l96ctfINNcgq@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> carole@peregrine.Sun.COM (Carole Parker) writes:
>Yep.  I had heard that Hunan Home had really *hot* chinese food as
>rated in ba.food.  Hot as in spicy.  Hot as in burn your mouth and
>wish you had a fire extinguisher.

This is good?  Sounds like an avoid to me.  If I want to burn my mouth,
I'll just down a bottle of Crystal pepper sauce.

>My response: NOT!
>
>My companion and I went to Hunan Home on a week night, and the food
>was deplorably tame.  Someone has/had a low threshold to spice because
>I certainly didn't taste it.

OK, this provides me a place to jump in and say: _Why_ is extreme heat
considered a good thing in an Asian restaurant's food?  Why is there
this strange "I can eat food that will pit surgical steel" macho thing
among Anglo fans of Asian restaurants?

Hunan Home's is definitely not, by any means, the spiciest Chineses
restaurant that I've ever visited.  This is good, in my book; I can
actually taste the food rather than turning the meal into a "will this
end in the ER?" endurance contest.
--
-- Christophe

"Be calm.  Look cute."
From: louis@well.sf.ca.us (Louis Jaffe)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Czech restaurant near Pt. Reyes
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:17:20 GMT
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link

There are actually two Czech restaurants in Inverness, if I
remember right.  Haven't been to either, but people have
spoken well of Manka's.

LJ
From: drijbo@one-iron.Corp.Sun.COM (Jonathan Osser)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:59:06 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: one-iron.corp.sun.com

In article <JET.92Aug18115944@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:

>Where are all the yuppie/granola grocery stores I heard so much about
>before I moved out here?

>I don't know how to explain exactly what I'm looking for except to say
>that in Houston I liked going to [ ... ]
>Whole Foods (expensive and anti-union, but good
>produce).

How about Whole Foods then?

Corner of Homer and Emerson in Palo Alto.

Draeger's (in either Los Altos or Menlo Park) has its partisans too.

--
Jon
drijbo@one-iron.Corp.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)
Subject: how do they age beef (was: Re: Birk's)
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 07:31:44 GMT
Organization: Netcom


This is a question that has always puzzled me.  How in the world do
they age beef?  More specifically, what is the difference between
aging beef and beef just sitting in the freezer or refrigerator
getting old?




M, BATR..
..Steve Bilan
From: TONY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Tony Roder)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Where can I buy fresh seafood?
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:30:39 GMT
 <1992Aug18.165043.15999@odin.corp.sgi.com>
 <1992Aug18.172513.12832@morrow.stanford.edu>
 <jon.714162098@lindy.Stanford.EDU> <7e6k02Mm1e.E01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In Mountain View, on Castro Street, there is a large supermarket of Asiatic
goodies along with an extensive selection of fresh (swimming fresh) fish
and crustaceans.

-----------------------------------
Tony Roder, speaking his mind .....
From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Locate Epazote Herb
Keywords: Locate Epazote Herb
Date: 21 Aug 92 01:29:52 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

To: Rest in SJ & Sacramento
Subject: Re: Locate Epazote Herb
Newsgroups: ba.food
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA
Cc: 
Bcc: 

You can get seed from Nichols Garden Nursery in Oregon.  $.95
per packet.  Nichols Garden Nursery
             1190 North Pacific Highway
             Albany, OR 97321-4598

They sell herb and vegetable seeds, essential oils, and spices
and spice blends.

I planted epazote a couple years ago, and found it grows--like
a weed.  Looks like one, too.  I'm pulling epazote out of my
flower beds all the time, and there's always more.  Be
warned.
-- 
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

I've worn high-heeled pointed-toed fashionable shoes for the past 
twenty years, and you ask me about if *getting tattooed* hurt?!
--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

I've worn high-heeled pointed-toed fashionable shoes for the past 
twenty years, and you ask me about if *getting tattooed* hurt?!
From: rwu@ismdqa.intel.com (Ronnie Wu )
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Fresh fish market
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:52:01 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Intel Corp.


>We are so close to the ocean. I am wondering if it is possible
>to buy some fresh fishes and crabs directly from fishermen.
>Or is there such a market we can go to?
>
>I don't mean that the seafood in supermarkets is not fresh. 
>I just want to buy something which might be alive.
>
>Thanks in advance.

	Half Moon Bay ! There is a fish market right on the intersection
of hiway 92 and hiway 1. I don't remember the name, but you can't miss 
it. 

Ron
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: dan@BofA.COM (Dan Brockman)
Subject: Cafe de la Presse
Organization: Bank of America, Capital Products, RMTG #5906
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:49:58 GMT


Cafe de la Presse, Bush St./Grant in SF
The literate among you can read the latest European
newspapers and magazines while you munch.
Light meals, pastry, Expresso, cafe fare, all good, fresh.
Service sort of distracted and slow, but pleasant, so
don't be in a hurry.  Meals:Five to ten dollars.
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 Bank of America, Dept 5906, 555 Calif St
 San Francisco 94104 USA              email uunet!odinba!dan dan@BofA.COM
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: schutt@netcom.com (David G. Schutt)
Subject: Re: Steak places in South Bay wanted
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 04:36:04 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: steak south bay

Someone was telling me about a prime rib place in San Jose that
is right next door to a meat packing company.

Supposedly great prime rib for $8.95

What is this?

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Why do people like spicy-hot food?
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 04:12:39 GMT

In article <z0#nlab.bilan@netcom.com> bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan) writes:
}As someone who loves very hot food, I would have to say BULL-PUCKY!
}The enjoyment I get from hot food has nothing to do with an after-effect.
}The enjoyment is completely in the taste, not the effect.

I cannot help but be reminded of the time lo these many years past when my
Abnormal Psych professor, an extremely down-to-earth practical person who
was a practicing medical psychologist for 10 years before entering academia,
listed a bunch of diseases which had a strong psychological component.
Among the expected entries (such as Reynaud's Disease) in this *long* list
were some unexpected ones like Asthma.

An extremely distraught sorority girl stood up and said, "Well, *I* have
asthma and I can assure you that it is *purely* physical; there is no
psychological component at all!"

The good doctor smiled and said, "When I was a sophomore I felt the
same way you did -- I had had extremely mild and occasional asthma up
until that time. Then I got married and began to suffer such chronic
asthma that I spent over 1/2 of my first year and a half of marriage
sleeping alone in the infirmary. I continued to have massive asthma
problems until my divorce. That was seven years ago, and I haven't had
a single asthma attack since."

I am quite sure that I will have as much success getting you to seriously
consider the *possibility* of endorphin addiction as my professor had
in getting Sorority Susie to seriously consider that there might be a
psychological component to her asthma.

P.S.: I wouldn't be so snitty about it, were it not for your utterly
redneck condemnation of the very idea.
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: c60a-zh@volga.Berkeley.EDU (A L L E N --LabA)
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:28:14 GMT

In article <JET.92Aug18115944@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>Where are all the yuppie/granola grocery stores I heard so much about
>before I moved out here?  I live in MV (near rengstroff and central)
>and all I've seen are Safeway's (ick) and Lucky's (double ick, but
>they have good prices on rene junot).  I've been to Country Sun (?) on
>California in Palo Alto, and they're ok...
>
>I don't know how to explain exactly what I'm looking for except to say
>that in Houston I liked going to Auchan's (french hypermarket), Rice
>Epicurian, and Whole Foods (expensive and anti-union, but good
>produce).

This might be a bit far for you but you can try Whole Foods in Berkeley.
It's on Telegraph south of campus...

ALLEN
From: joshua@Veritas.COM (Joshua Levy)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Napa/Sonoma Best Restaurants
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:09:16 GMT
Organization: VERITAS Software

In article <Bsw5x7.65z@taligent.com> Mahi_deSilva@Taligent.com (Mahi de Silva) writes:
>Piatti's: Modern Italian, good pasta, pizza and grilled dishes. I think
>this one
>is in Yonteville, just south of Napa.

I second Piatti's.  Just wonderful. Add sausage and corn-mush (polenta :-)
to the list of good dishes.

Joshua Levy  (joshua@veritas.com)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: mou@nova1.stanford.edu (Alex Mou)
Subject: Where can I buy fresh seafood?
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:25:13 GMT


We are so close to the ocean. I am wondering if it is possible
to buy some fresh fishes and crabs directly from fishermen.
Or is there such a market we can go to?

I don't mean that the seafood in supermarkets is not fresh. 
I just want to buy something which might be alive.

Thanks in advance.
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for a *quality* grocery store
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:56:15 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

Dylan Yolles <zimm@leland.Stanford.EDU> writes:

	the best supermarket in the world is a tad far from you. It's
	Andronico's, in Berkeley.

Well, "Food King Meets Miami Vice"(*) might be pretty good for finding
just the right overpriced pepper, but for my dollar, Market Hall in
Rockridge has everything I (usually) need [anybody got a good source of
lavage?] ... Andronico's is just a supermarket.  Market Hall is a
european-style market, with *much* fresher vegetables, a great meat
counter, a decent (if small) wine store, fish, bread, chocolate,
coffee, fresh pasta counters, and a cafe (Olivetto) to nosh on tapas
and a glass of wine or latte if you get tired shopping.  I usually do!

Environmentally sensitive (across from BART, on AC Transit lines 17,
51, a block from one of the main cross-town bike lanes), culturally
diverse (just kidding; not sure what this might mean in this context
;-), high quality, nice people, etc.  Gosh, it's been a few weeks since
I've been there.  Where's that damn airline phone number ...

/jordan

(*) JeriAnn where are you???
ps: besides, both Balducci's and Dean & Deluca here in NYC beat out
Andronico's any old day ...
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jeberger@novell.com (John Berger)
Subject: Re: Why do people like spicy-hot food?
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 01:42:03 GMT

In article <z0#nlab.bilan@netcom.com> bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan) writes:
>
>Speaking of spicy food, there a tendencies among restaurants to tone down
>their spicy dishes to satisfy the majority of diners that only want mildly
>spicy dishes.  This even seems to be happening with Thai restaurants. Can
>anybody recommend restaurants, Thai or otherwise, that still have *very*
>spicy dishes?
>
A few weeks ago, I took my in-laws-to-be and my folks to Oyster Reef in 
Oakland (5th St exit off 880).  I can usually stand very HOT food, so I 
ordered a prawn dish from their Thai menu and asked for it "hot".  It was 
the hottest (spiciest) food that I've ever had, and I ended up sending it 
back for "medium".  WHEW!

Other than that, great ambiance (on the estuary, next to the water), fair 
service.  

John Berger
jberger @ novell.com
From: ghosty@terapin.com (Noah Hanna)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Sushi
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:17:43 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <55708@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>, billb@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Bill
Black) writes:
>I recently saw a place named "We Be Sushi", located next to the LUCKY
>supermarket at El Camino and Remington in Sunnyvale.  Has anyone been
>there?  Heard anything about it?
>
>Also, can someone direct me to a place in Monterrey, Pacific Grove that
>serves Dim Sum?
>
>Bill
Nope, but it sounds to me like a fast food type chain of Sushi
bars/restaurants, as does SUshi Sushi in Sunnyvale mall...

  __     .  .     
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From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Why do people like spicy-hot food?
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:16:30 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Aug21.072356.24197@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60a-zh@volga.Berkeley.EDU (A L L E N --LabA) writes:
>In article <9208201801.AA05919@minos.nmt.edu> js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
>>
>>burn.  No one starts out liking heat, it's definitely an
>>acquired taste.  When I started school at New Mexico Tech, I
>>couldn't stand it.  But since chiles were everywhere
>>(especially in the cafeteria), I got used to it, and
>
>Do you get used to the heat after you burn away all your taste buds?
>Just wondering...

Has little to do with it.  I've got extremely sensitive taste and smell,
but I like foods much spicier than my parents.

NOTE: it does appear to be true that coffee-lovers have very few taste
buds left.


;-)  <-- for the humor-impaired

-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

"I 'got a life'.  Now what?"
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: margaret@igor.tamri.com (Margaret Kritzer)
Subject: Re: English Pubs & Shepherd's Pie
Keywords: English Pubs shepherd's pie
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 00:54:33 GMT

In article <1992Aug7.231601.22690@Csli.Stanford.EDU> olsen@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Diane Olsen) writes:
>In article <1992Aug7.174333.2665@leland.Stanford.EDU> matthies@jessica.stanford.edu (Dennis Matthies) writes:
>>Readers,
>>
>>A friend who is visiting would like to find a "good English pub
>>where they serve Shepherd's Pie." In the city. Any ideas?
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Dennis

Try "The Pig and Whistle", in San Francisco on Geary St, a block or
2 west of Masonic, on the south side of Geary.  Their menu includes
shepher's pie, a plughman's lunch, bangers & mash, fish and chips, etc.
Everything I've had is good.  They stop serving dinner at 8pm!

Another possibility is "The Mad Dog in the Fog", where they also
serve pub grub.  Not sure what's on the menu there.  It's located
on Haight St, near Fillmore.
-- 


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From: jjh00@outs.ccc.amdahl.com (Joel J. Hanes)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Where can I buy fresh seafood?
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:09:35 GMT
Reply-To: jjh00@OUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Joel J. Hanes)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

On the Santa Cruz wharf.
Newsgroups: ba.food