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From: ken@unixg.ubc.ca (Kenneth White)
Subject: Re: AIR CANADA - UNITED AIRLINES DEAL
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:18:50 GMT

I don't think the FF programs will be merged, rather United would probably
do what they do on the on their other partners and just give you United
credit when you fly on Air Canada, or if you are in AC Aeroplan and fly
United you would get AC credit. Personally, I think United is a better
program and it would make more sense to put your miles there but I am
sure others would disagree. In any case it all looks good to me.
From: moorerr@msu.edu (richard r. moore)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: It USED to be northworst - now its northbest
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:28:43 GMT
Organization: Computer laboratory, michigan state university

People who wrote off northwest several years ago ought to try it again.  A 
few years ago, some former marriott management people bought NW & brought 
customer awareness to the airline (and brought a good working environment 
to their employees).  The difference has been like night and day.  I used to 
go out of my way to avoid NW.  Now i try to take NW whenever i can.  The 
staff are very friendly and helpful.
From: obrien@acf3.nyu.edu (Chief O'Brien)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: public transport from laguardia, NYC to newark airport?
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:42:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: DON'T MESS WITH THE O(BRIEN), Inc.

chun@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Chun-Kuen Ho) writes:
>can anybody give me some direction on taking any public transport from
>the laguardia airport in NYC to the newark airport? and roughly what
>the rate will be and the hours of operations? 

The cheapest way to get to Newark airport using public transportation is this:
Take the Q33 bus from LGA Airport ($1.25) to the 74th Street/Broadway/Roosevelt
Avenue Subway Station (#7, E, F, R, and G trains).  Take the E train ($1.25) to
42nd Street (Port Authority Bus Terminal).  The trains run fairly often, except
for late night and on Sundays.  At Port Authority, you can catch the NJ Transit
Airport Express Bus for $7 (they run every 20 minutes off peak, every 15 peak).
The express bus takes about 30 minutes (maybe more depending on traffic) and 
stops at all the terminals.  (If you are going to catch a car rental shuttle 
bus you will need to get off at Terminal A).

>the reason is that we found that renting a car from laguardia is more
>expensive than renting one from newark (210/week vs. ~175/week,
>subcompact). since we are flying into laguardia, we are thinking of
>going to newark to pick up the car. does anyone have any suggestion to
>make on this idea? will it work, or will we end up paying more on
>other things which we overlook?

I live very close to LGA but since I am under 25, car rental agencies in NYC 
will not rent to me, so I often go to Newark Airport to rent a car.  (Payless 
Rent-A-Car has compact cars that run about $139 a week).  One thing to remember
though with renting a car in Newark is that you must return the car to Newark 
(allow plenty of time for you to get back to LGA Airport) and your rental car 
will most likely have NJ plates.  If you are planning on staying in NYC, don't
leave anything of value in the car, especially the trunk.  Car theives will 
break into cars that have out-of-state plates before breaking into cars with 
NYS plates.  Also, another thing, if you do rent a car from the NYC area also 
be careful of theft.  All NYS rental car plates start with the letter Z (so 
car theives will know if it's a rental or not).  

Another word of caution (I learned this while renting my last car),  Mitsubshi
cars are known for their weak car trunk locks.  I was charged an extra $100 
because the trunk lock was broken when I returned it (I never even used the 
trunk).  

>thanks very much for any suggestion.
>chun-kuen

Have a safe and pleasant trip to NY... (I hope I haven't scared you, it's not 
as bad as it sounds).  

-Julia
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From: critter@sdf.lonestar.org (John R. Rigsby)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Cheapest published fare
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:41:16 GMT
Organization: sdf Public Access UNIX, Dallas--unrestricted free shell access

In article <1285@netxcom.netx.com> jwc@netx.com (Jeff Comer) writes:
>into Newark. But they may have had $19 fares at one time.....

Southwest Airlines back in the Good Old Days had regular fares of $19.
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From: <juyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: (none)
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:39:14 -0500



American Airline One-way ticket from Newark to Phoenix for sale:

						LV	ARR
	Sep 8   Newark - Dallas/Ft.Worth 	18:14   21:04
		DFW - Phoenix			21:57	22:14

Can be changed for $25.

Asking for $90 o.b.o.

The ticket can be sold separately.  Please reply by e-mail.
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Prices from Auckland NZ to Norfolk Island???
From: batman@amigans.gen.nz (Kerry Emerson)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 22:18:35 GMT
Organization: Wanganui Amigans, Wanganui, New Zealand

Does anyone have any prices for travelling (by air) from New Zealand to
Norfolk Island?  Wishing to stay One to Two weeks in Norfolk around the
start/middle of December.                                              
                                                                       
Thanx.                                                                 


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From: U48073@uicvm.uic.edu (Cole Kendall)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Info needed, Hotels near Heathrow
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:54:42 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <Bt73KI.D3I@ibmpcug.co.uk>, alon@ibmpcug.co.uk (Alon Risdon) says:
>
>All the hotels within 10 miles of London Airport are in the
>75 to 110 u.k. pound mark. But the best I have found is the
>Holiday Inn at the Airport (about 5 miles away) The cost for
>one person at todays rate is 85 UK pounds. P.S. this rate is
>with Tax.

There is a mediocre French/English hotel called IBIS that costs
55 pounds for two; private shower, cinderblock walls, luggage
carts to get your stuff to your room.  A vaguely Soviet ambiance.
There is a shuttle service from Heathrow 1-3 which is only a few
miles away.

Cole Kendall
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: romeo@cis.ohio-state.edu (Mr. Bill)
Subject: (2) R.T. tickets Columbus->LA->Columbus only $130 each!!
Originator: romeo@glockenspiel.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:51:49 GMT


Hello,

I have 2 roundtrip tickets for sale on Southwest Airlines for $130 each.

LEAVE Columbus, Ohio: Wed. Sept. 2nd, 4:35pm to Kansas City to LA
ARRIVE LAX: about 10:30pm

LEAVE LAX: Fri. Sept. 11th, 6:30am DIRECT FLIGHT to Columbus, Ohio

The two tickets have MALE names and if you're interested, I'll send
specific flight information.

							Thanks,

							      John
From: td@babar.inria.fr (Thierry Despeyroux)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: TRAVEL FROM CHARLES DE GAULLE TO ORLY AIRPORT (PARIS)
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:13:23 GMT
Reply-To: Thierry.Despeyroux@sophia.inria.fr
Organization: INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis (Fr)

In article <142@chorus.chorus.fr>, grob@opera.chorus.fr (Lori Grob) writes:
|> In article <SJONES.92Aug17214908@beach.csulb.edu>, sjones@beach.csulb.edu (Steven Jones) writes:
|> %% If I remember correctly...AIR FRANCE has buses that connect the two Paris
|> %% airports.  I have used these buses to get from ORLY to the center of Paris,
|> %% and fouj found them quite nice (beter than the city bus system and faster
|> %% than the metro).  

|> The Air France buses are faster than the metro only if 
|> you don't get stuck in traffic. They are certainly very 

Here are information taken in the Air Inter Guide:

1) Air France Bus

departure:	from 6h00 to 23h00 every 20mn
average time:	50mn
price:		64FF

2) RER-B (express metro) from Roissy to Antony, then ORLYVal (Automatic metro)

departure:	from 5h15 to 22h55 every 15mn(average)
                                   every 7mn30(rush hour)
average time:	60mn
price:		69FF (54FF with Air Inter voucher)


To avoid traffic, I prefer the Express Metro, but of course
it is less confortable than the Air France Bus.

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From: cid@athena.mit.edu (Derek H Cedillo)
Subject: One Way Bos->Chi  Cheap for sale
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:26:21 GMT



One way, female passenger.  Sept 11th (change == $25)
America West (Yes, I keep the small ones going the best I can)
asking $60  will take any reasonable offer.


Derek
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: rlerdorf@netcom.com (Rasmus Lerdorf)
Subject: Wanted: San Fran/San Jose to Toronto/Seattle/Vancouver
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 21:17:54 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Anybody have a return ticket they are unable to use out of San Fran or
San Jose?  I need one.

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From: jog@kpc.com (Rajeev Jog)
Subject: NorthWest/NorthWorst Airlines (Was Re: Cheap airfares to Asia)
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computers Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:24:26 GMT

>(Chris M. Kim) writes about the flying disaster that is NW airlines:
>All I can say is ditto, ditto, ditto.  NW went off my list of airlines
>to be used in 1987 after a series of unbelievable incompetencies; many
>complaints and letters brought no satisfaction.  Having never
>encountered such an arrogant company, I removed them from the list of
>possibles and have never reconsidered.

I haven't flown NW much lately except a BOS->PHL leg on a turboprop
which was too short too matter, and a trip PHL->MSP->SJC
(Philly->Minneapolis->San Jose for the airport TLA impaired).

I was quite pleased with the PHL->MSP->SJC segment, and having done that
on American several times this year, Northwest was fantastic in
comparison.  NW leaves PHL at 5:10pm and connects at 7:45 pm in MSP; the
corresponding times for AA are 6:35 pm and 8:20 pm (at O'Hare).

NW had beverage service (twice on MSP->SJC) and dinner on each leg and
the food was pretty decent (chocolate chip ice cream on MSP->SJC) and
the service was quite pleasant on a crowded flight.

AA on the other hand thinks that leaving at 6:35pm means they can give
you a light supper PHL->ORD, followed by beverages and peanuts on the
five hour ORD->SJC run!  

By the way, does *any* airline feed you (in coach) on the red-eyes
leaving SFO/SJC for the east coast?  American doesn't: it's pretzels
and drinks.

If NW would give me Preferred status for not using my future Advantage Gold
(which I should hit ~Labor Day), I would seriously consider switching.

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From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Fare Reductions to Asia on NWA
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:16:03 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA

tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Tarun Kripalani) said:

> Does anybody know more about the fare reductions offered by
> NWA to destinations in Asia? I heard that there was some
> announcement last week concerning that. If that is true,
> does United plan to match/compete with it?

This morning's Los Angeles Times had a Northwest advertisement in it.  I
happen to remember that Los Angeles-Seoul was $299 each way, which is the
cheapest I have personally ever seen a transpacific ticket.

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From: laurab@dip.cs.wisc.edu (Laura Berg)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,misc.forsale,wi.forsale
Subject: SFO to Chicago or Madison, WI
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:15:14 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

For sale:  American Airlines ticket from SFO to Madison, Wi with a change
of planes at O'hare (if you only want to go that far).

Flight is on Sept 02 leaves SF at 7:50 am, arrives in O'hare at 1:58pm, leaves
O'hare 2:55pm, arrives Madison 3:49 pm.

This can be changed for a $25 fee.

$100 or best offer.

Laura Berg
laurab@cs.wisc.edu
From: kb42+@andrew.cmu.edu (Karin Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: ticket Pitt=>San Francisco
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:34:59 GMT
Organization: Office of Planning & Budget, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Sell one way ticket:

American Airlines
Pittsburgh to San Francisco via Dallas
for a female
24.August (can be changed for $25)

I am asking for $80 (negotiable).

Karin
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca (Tarun Kripalani)
Subject: Fare Reductions to Asia on NWA
Organization: Dept. Of Psychology,  Queen's University,  Kingston
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:02:26 GMT

Does anybody know more about the fare reductions offered by
NWA to destinations in Asia? I heard that there was some
announcement last week concerning that. If that is true,
does United plan to match/compete with it?
-- 

Tarun Kripalani (of Wounded Knee and now Wounded Shoulder)
e-mail:   tarun@psyclops.psyc.queensu.ca
Dept. of Psychology, Queen's University,
Kingston, Ontario.
From: stantz@sgi.com (Mark Stantz)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Delta Standby Travel Voucher
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:08:05 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Aug13.154624.23416@athena.mit.edu> davelett@athena.mit.edu (Richard Sun) writes:
>I am thinking about buying a 30 day Delta standby travel voucher.
>In Germany, they are currently sold for DM 799.- (~ US$ 540) which
>I think is incredibly cheap. (You can also buy a 60 day voucher for
>1399.-)

	What is the deal with these?

	1)  Do they enable you to fly standby on ONE flight any time in the
	    next 30 (or 60) days, or do they enable you to fly standby on
	    unlimited Delta flights, as long as travel is completed in the
	    next 30 (or 60) days (seems too good to be true.) 

	2)  Can they be purchased within the US?

	3)  Do any other airlines offer similar vouchers?

	-Mark
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: G0900@vmcms.csuohio.edu
Subject: wanted Greece slides
Organization: CSU
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:20:26 GMT

 
I have just returned from my trip to Greece and while there I purchased
some slides.  I am interested in locating a way to purchase more slides.
Does anyone have any information on where I can buy slides or know anyone
that sells slides?   Is there such a place/person that loans slides out?
 
Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.  I am also interested in
photos, books or even postcards.
 
Katherine Pasalis  g0900 at csuohio  or g0900 at vmcms.csuohio.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,misc.forsale,su.market
From: ashokkum@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ashok Kumar)
Subject: SEA <-> SJC/SFO Travel
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:48:20 GMT


I need to travel one way from the Bay Area to Seattle in 
late August (preferably 8/29).

If you are interested in any one of the following options,
please contact me:

    1)  You have a one-way ticket to get rid of.
    2)  You are interested in a one-way ticket from
        Seattle to the Bay Area (split a RT ticket)
    3)  You are interested in a RT ticket from the
        Bay area, leaving on Sept 1 (know someone who
        has one way ticket for this day), and return
        date flexible (split my RT ticket).

				Thanks.
 
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From: rlewis@cactus.org (Roger C. Lewis)
Subject: Re: Delta Standby Travel Voucher
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:03:05 GMT

In article <jog.714071733@kpc.com> jog@kpc.com (Rajeev Jog) writes:
>
>Question: are the Delta standby vouchers and other such tickets (e.g.
>Visit USA etc.) that have to be purchased abroad in conjunction with
>a ticket to the US eligible for frequent flyer miles???
>
The standby pass itself is designed by Delta to be the equivalent of
a Eurailpass for foreign visitors.  It is a great bargain in itself
but is =not= eligible for accruing frequent flyer mileage.

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: anne@cs.UAlberta.CA (Anne J.R. Nield)
Subject: Re: AIR CANADA - UNITED AIRLINES DEAL
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:49:12 GMT

ken@unixg.ubc.ca (Kenneth White) writes:

>Does anyone know if the AC-UA deal announced yesterday includes
>any frequent flyer arrangements, like can you now get Mileage Plus
>credit on Air Canada and when does it start?

From what I understand you WILL be able to get Mileage Plus credit
but the deal is not signed yet -- has to be approved, and it seems 
no-one wants to say if/when that will happen.

(Would be great if it was approved in time to take advantage of those
cheap fares to Asia!)

Anne

Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,connect.audit
From: alon@ibmpcug.co.uk (Alon Risdon)
Subject: Re: Info needed, Hotels near Heathrow
X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this article are those of the author
	alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:00:17 GMT

All the hotels within 10 miles of London Airport are in the 
75 to 110 u.k. pound mark. But the best I have found is the
Holiday Inn at the Airport (about 5 miles away) The cost for
one person at todays rate is 85 UK pounds. P.S. this rate is
with Tax.
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From: hideo@tansei.cc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (KANNO Hideo)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,fj.rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Travel Award for sale
Summary: PLEASE DON'T SELL FFPs AWARDs on USENET
Keywords: FFP, UA Mileage Plus
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:17:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.travel.air
Organization: Computer Centre, University of Tokyo

In article <1992Aug21.170631.9030@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>>>I have number of United travel award for sale and it will go to the first
>>>reasonable offer:

>>This award *is* fully transferable, right?  Otherwise, it's near-worthless
>>to anyone but you.

>I believe they are fully transferable, 

Yes, you can give your family or friend as a present.

>but it is also against the rules of the United Mileage Plus 
>(or any other frequent travel program) to sell the awards.  

>They may be given away (sometimes to a "friend", usually to a "relative"), 
>but they cannot be sold.

You CAN'T SELL any United Mileage Plus's Award Check nor Award Ticket.
It's the same to another FFPs.

>Of course, it would be near impossible to prove (or disprove) that an
>award was sold and given away.

It's true.

In the case of UA Tokyo Ticket Office,
Mileage Plus member, who have award check with his/her name,
must go to Ticket Office by him/herself with some ID with photo.
Family with the same family name can do also.

But I think it is bad thing to post such article to USENET.
It causes bad impression of fj.rec.travel.air to airlines.

If some airlines' official read your article selling awards,
they can close you account and ask you their damage as normal ticket.
Also they will never accept your award checks.

PLEASE DON'T POST THE ARTICLES SELLING FFP'S AWARDS, RELATED CERTIFICATES 
OR AWARD TICKETS to rec.travel.air.

Or will you give someone with free of charge:-)?
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From: bresler@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Leo Bresler)
Subject: Re: Range of MD-80/83
Followup-To: rec.travel.air
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 20:03:02 GMT

Hi, everybody!

Just $.02 more. American uses MD-83 on ORD-PDX route non-stop, which is about
4.5 hours long. I also can tell that even in coach it was plenty of legroom.
				Leo.
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From: chun@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Chun-Kuen Ho)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: public transport from laguardia, NYC to newark airport?
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:54:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

can anybody give me some direction on taking any public transport from
the laguardia airport in NYC to the newark airport? and roughly what
the rate will be and the hours of operations? 

the reason is that we found that renting a car from laguardia is more
expensive than renting one from newark (210/week vs. ~175/week,
subcompact). since we are flying into laguardia, we are thinking of
going to newark to pick up the car. does anyone have any suggestion to
make on this idea? will it work, or will we end up paying more on
other things which we overlook?

thanks very much for any suggestion.

chun-kuen
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air,rec.travel,ne.forsale,athena.forsale
From: cid@athena.mit.edu (Derek H Cedillo)
Subject: FOR Sale: one way Bos --->Chi  $65 OBO
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:10:51 GMT

Subject says it.
America West Sept 11th (change = $25)
Female passenger.
make offer.
to Midway--avoid hassles of ohare.

Derek