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From: mworley@mathcs.emory.edu (Meg Worley)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Best beer under $6.00.
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:12:47 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

In article <1992Oct9.180143.7468@iscsvax.uni.edu>, peterson5283@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> beleive it or not there are some American beers that actually taste good for
> under $6.00.  

Helenboch, from the appallingly kitschy Georgia mountain town of Helen.
$5.19 a six, and better than half the imports.  Fine stuff.  Another
Georgia (via Iowa, but Georgia-owned) brew, also $5.19, is Wild Boar, only
a shade less tasty than Helenboch.  In fact, I believe I'll have one.

Rage away,

meg


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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: eah@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew)
Subject: Re: Bud sucks [and other nasty stuff]
Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:50:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.083841.20763@wam.umd.edu> mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy) writes:
>But my FAVORITE beer of all time is a Canadian brew called Toby..the best!
>I wish they'd export it!!  Anyone else had it???

I wish they'd brew Toby the same as the authentic British variety.
Unfortunately, anything the big (now down to 2) breweries get their
hands on is invariably a poor watered down imitation of the real
thing.  Toby, Fosters, Heinekin, Carlesberg, all the good names
are here, just the substance is missing.

For tasty Canadian beers, try the (finally legalized) microbreweries
and brewpubs.  Commercially available (though regionally restricted
by capacity), in Ontario try Conners, Brick, Upper Canada, Wellington
County, Creemore, to name a few, all of which produce several
interesting beers each.  It is getting better, finally.

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From: jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr)
Subject: Re: Wheat beers?
Reply-To: jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (John B. Carr)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: all
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:36:01 GMT


|> lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey) writes:
|> >I have recently become enamored of Celis Wheat, a locally brewed
wheat beer...

	I believe that is in the Belgian style, so try some Belgian Wit or
White beers.

|> >It suddenly occured to me that there MUST be others out there, and
figured I'd
|> >call upon the collected wisdom of the net.
|> >Recommend some! If I can find it at one of the local pubs, I'll try
it. If not,
|> >I'll keep an eye out for it next time I'm up north.
|>Also, any recommendations for beers brewed with "other" methods
(oatmeal stouts,
|>for example) that are a step away from the traditional
lagers/stouts/pilsners.

	Oatmeal Stout: Samuel Smith's or Anderson Valley

	Also try anything Belgian, they have the most bizzare ingredients and
methods.

Brazilian Black Beer: Xingu is the only one I have seen.  I don't know
what psychogenic substance is included in this, but after 5 you get the
"Xingu Sweats" and begin to imagine you are in the Amazon.  Some
thresholds are lower.

	For incredibly strong and malty try Samichlaus or EKU 28 Kulminator
Urtyp Hell.

	For a special (and expensive experience) try a well-aged Thomas Hardy
(at least 2 years old, preferably older) (Barley Wine) or a Traquair
House (Scottish Ale).

In article <binkley.718382706@beagle>, binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon
Binkley) writes:|> 

|> Krystal Weizens are filtered and clear.  There are also Bavarian
|> Dunkleweizens (darker) and Weizenbocks (stronger), but I've never
|> seen them in the US.  
|> 
	I like Dunkleweizens, we can get Kapuziner, Oberdorfer, and EKU  Hefe
here, of which I prefer Oberdorfer (less carbonation, more malt). 
I also have been unable to find a Weizenbock, has anyone seen one in the
US ?

|> There are a few American versions, but I'm unimpressed with them.

	Actually I like Anderson Valley's High Rollers Wheat, because it is
uncharacteristically highly hopped, and I can detect none of that clove
or banana that I dislike.

|> 
|> (Another type of German Wheat beer is Berliner Weisse.  It is a
|> very light bodied, very sour beer paritally fermented by lactic
|> acid bacteria.  It is unavailable in the US, so I only mention
|> it parenthetically.)
|> 
	Berliner Weisse is available here, I can't stand that sour taste,
though, even with the raspberry syrup.


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From: miriah@loro-next.Stanford.EDU (Hot blonde)
Subject: favorites
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 22:08:03 GMT

My favorites are

Heineken
Pelforth (french beer, the dark version is best)
Wilfort (also french beer, hard to find)
Duvel
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From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Please Help
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:03:13 GMT

Did that quiz get cut off in the middle somehow?

I missed the part about beer...

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From: Martin_Hart@mindlink.bc.ca (Martin Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Okanagan Spring Porter
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:04:54 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Big Steve Griffin writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <BvpKow.KJv@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
> Posted: 6 Oct 92 16:34:07 GMT
>
> Org.  : University of Waterloo
>
> I just wanted to alert everyone in the western U.S. and Canada of this
> great
> beer I tried in B.C.  Okanagan Spring Porter:  Dark, Heavy (8.5% alcohol)
> and, where I tried it, same as regular beer prices.
>
> By the way, has anyone else tried this???
>
>
> Big Nasty Steve Griffin

yes I have. I tried it last spring. I found it too sweet for general
consumption and the weather was too hot for such a dark brew. Okanagan Spring
make several other beers - Pale Ales and such. Good stuff.
From: ahaley@eo20 (Andrew Haley)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: bud
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:11:47 GMT
Organization: EO, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jeff Retallic (jeffr@hpopd.pwd.hp.com) wrote:
: There has apparently been a long-standing battle between the brewers(?) of
: Budweiser in the US (forget their name) and Budweiser Budvar over entitlement
: to the name.  This is why Budweiser (CS) is sold as Budvar in the US.
: In some parts of Europe Budweiser US can't use the Budweiser name.

The decision in the UK was reminiscent of the judgement of Solomon:
"Neither of you can have exclusive rights to the name, you'll just
have to share it."  If only more legal decisions were like that.

: An interesting development here is that Budweiser US have just bought a 30%
: share in Budweiser CS (source BBC Food & Drink consumer programme).  This 
: apparently has nothing to do with the name situation and Budweiser US claim
: their only intention is to 'improve' the Czech brew.

Oh shit, we're doomed...

Andrew

:-(
From: dwv@cs.brown.edu (David W. Vorbrich)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: MOST expensive beer
Date: 15 Oct 1992 02:18:51 GMT
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hector.cs.brown.edu

I bought a 6-pack of Old Peculiar in Cambridge, MA for 12.50 US$, and
also (mentioned recently) I bought a 4-pack of Duvel for $8.

...of course, I would still consider buying _both_ of these beers again
as they were both amazingly good, but there are so many other beers to
try!

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From: majland@nork.auc.dk (Anders Majland Pedersen)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: MOST expensive beer
Date: 15 Oct 92 20:47:57 GMT
Organization: /user/majland/.organization

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    With the least expensive thread, I just thought I would try to find out
   what the most expensive beer you have ever bought or considered buying
   was and how much it was? Mine was a 6 (cans) of Guinness that a friend and
   I ended up buying in an Irish import store in Germany (we were desperate
   so we paid close to $15 u.s.).

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Beat This !!!!!
If you really like paying a lot for your beer, try going to Sweden
I spent some time there last sommer.
In restaurants you have to pay between 12 and 18 doller for a single beer !
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From: daniel@acpub.duke.edu (Daniel Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: MOST expensive beer
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:33:38 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <Bw4x8I.K2C@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Baker) writes:
>
> With the least expensive thread, I just thought I would try to find out
>what the most expensive beer you have ever bought or considered buying
>was and how much it was? Mine was a 6 (cans) of Guinness that a friend and
>I ended up buying in an Irish import store in Germany (we were desperate
>so we paid close to $15 u.s.).
>


Two particularly expensive examples:  

In Athens, GA (The Copper Kettle) a six of Sammy Smith's Taddy Porter
costs $14.  (Approximately the same price at Fowler's grocery at
Brightleaf Square in Durham, NC).

In Athens, GA (The ABC) a bottle of Orval costs $4.85 ($4.50 at
Fowler's).  The ABC also had a German Beer available (exact name I don't
remember) for $5.25/bottle!

Those are the best I can give you.  I admit, Sammy Smith's is too
expensive anyway (see thread in this newsgroup rom a month ago), but
Young's isn't sold around here.  Oh, well.

T. Daniel Crawford
Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: LJ09735@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (JEFF)
Subject: Re: Australian beer
Organization: O/19-61
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:06:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct07.142247.25211@rchland.ibm.com>, rone@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ronald Elshaug) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct6.151651.1@registry.adelaide.edu.au>, you write:
> |> OK, so everyone wants to give the local brew a plug, if the correspondence
> |> on VB/XXXX is anything to go by. Well, I wanna give a South Aussie beer
> |> a plug. "West End" I hear you say. "Blagh, Puke, etc." Agreed. But for those
> |> debonair, cosmopolitan, epicurean, international connisseurs of fine ales
> |> and lagers, I have deemed it necessary to promote the fine ales produced
> |> by the Cooper's family here in Adelaide for nigh on a century. 
> |> Traditionally brewed English Ales, such as Sparkling Ale and Pale Ale
> |> are not only uniquely exquisite, but also free from all artificial nasties.
> |> It's brewed in the bottle. They also produce great Stout and a reasonable
> |> Light. Used to do a great Lager for export, not sure now. Home brew kits
> |> make producing the real McCoy a breeze. I've said my bit. Cheers, Prost,
> |> Skol, Salute, etc.
> |> Mick Paddy Fox
> 
> I visited Australia this summer for a few weeks and tried many of their beers 
> and I have to agree that Cooper's was the best of the lot.  The fact that it is
> naturally brewed and bottled conditioned impressed me even more.  A great beer
> made the proper way!  When I got back I was eager to make my own Cooper's.  I
> have made a few attempts and I know I haven't gotten it right, yet.  Alas, I 
> have no real Cooper's to compare it to and can't seem to find any in the store.
> 
> So if anyone down there (or up there, as I was told we northerners have our
> perspective up-side-down) could find a way to ship me some, I would fully 
> reimburse you and be eternally gracious.  If not, maybe a few tips on how to 
> improve my own version.  Like maybe the fermentation temperature, etc...
> 
> Anyway, the XXXX was a little unusual at first, but after many, many, many, ...
> taste tests it started to grow on me.  At the moment, I'd have to give it 2nd
> place.  I am hoping to go back to Australia soon to continue amongst other 
> things, my beer sampling test.  I have to say (happily) that most of the 
> Australian beers are much better than the standard American Budmilloors.
> And we all know that you Australians are happy about that too, don't we! ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> RonE
> 
>
I agree with Ron on Cooper's but must differ on XXXX.  It was OK but never 
grew on my like it obviously did on him!  My favorite was/is VB.  For a mass
produced beer it is the best I've had anywhere at any price.  The term "mass
produced" used here does NOT include the products of micro breweries, BTW.

Also, on the subject Australian beers..Does anyone out there anywhere like
NT Draught???


-Jeff Schaefer
LJ09735@LMSC5.is.lmsc.lockheed.com
From: Mike King
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Real ale in North America
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:36:16 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

In article <1992Oct9.180710.12757@mprgate.mpr.ca> mcvey@mpr.ca (Iain McVey)
writes:
>
>Well, after an all too brief trip around Scotland and England, I am very
>interested in real ale (cask) in north america.
>
>Does this exist?
>
>Is CAMRA active in NA?
>
>Just wondering,
>
>- Iain -
>
>-- 
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>MPR Teltech Ltd.               |  until it is not baseball any more."
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>


  The "Campaign for Real Ale in Canada" exists and, as far as I can tell, is
alive and well.    Mike King.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jmchale@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Jean McHale)
Subject: Beer in Berlin
Organization: Dept. of Psychology, Univ. of Illinois, Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:29:19 GMT

does anyone know of places that simply shouldn't be missed if
you love good beer and are in Berlin?
From: gooley@netcom.com (Mark. Gooley)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: MOST expensive beer
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:05:29 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Bought some fruit lambics and a couple bottles of Samichlaus to celebrate
my doctorate last year.  Around $3.50 per around-twelve-ounce bottle.
(This was back in Illinois.)  About my limit -- but note that run-of-the-
mill imported beers often cost more in restaurants.

The raspberry, Kriek if memory serves, was superb.  The Samichlaus tasted
like a rather good sherry with hops and carbonation -- think I'll stick to
sherry if that's what I want.

Mark., and of course there's always Chimay...
gooley@netcom.com
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: jasons@atlastele.com (Jason Smith)
Subject: Re: Anhor Steam on prime time
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:39:41 GMT

In article <1aafl0INNko0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown) writes:
>In an earlier posting schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Schuyler Stultz) writes:
>>
>>I was watching the season premier (sp?) of Northern Exposure last
>>night when something caught my eye.  It was the scene where Maurice
>>was talking to Holling at the bar.  Holling was standing in front of the
>>beer taps.  As I looked closer, I realized one of the taps was for 
>>Anchor Steam Beer.  Does anyone know if this was intentional?
>
>I noticed that too... what I was more intersted in knowing was what was
>the bottle Maurice got... and why he didn't get a glass of Anchor!! Also,
>what was the tap right next to the Anchor?

If I remember correctly, it was one of my own favorites, Full Sail Amber, 
brewed in Portland and as far as I know, only distributed in the Pacific 
Northwest.

Jason Smith 

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: best beer under $6
From: (jpallo@nic.gac.edu)
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:34:11 -0600
Followup-To: alt.beer
 <1992Oct7.211509.8832@netcom.com> <1992Oct9.204004.4222@news2.cis.umn.edu>
Distribution: world

In article <1992Oct9.204004.4222@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
kimmel@staff.tc.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel) wrote:
> 
> In article <1992Oct7.211509.8832@netcom.com> gooley@netcom.com (Mark. Gooley) writes:
> >In article <1992Oct7.200334.28771@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel L Bayer) writes:
> >>I agree:  Berghoff is a fine brew for just $3.79/six.  I like the regular and
> >>the dark--the bock is not so great.  Also Christian Moerlein ($4.19/six) is
> >>also very good.
> >
> >No disagreements here.  Not long ago one could buy CM in my home town
> >in Illinois for under $12/24.
> >
> >Leinenkugel used to be okay, but something dreadful has happened to it.
> >(What?)  Ditto Augsburger, which IMHO sort of teeters on the edge of
> >drinkability.
> >
> Leinenkugel was purchased by Miller and Augsburger was also purchased by a
> large brewery (that I can't remember -- Strohs?).  Augsburger Bock is still
> pretty good.  As of last year's supply, anyways.
> 
> >Mark., your mileage may vary

If you all are looking for a tasty beer under six schmodas, might I suggest
Pig's Eye?  I'm talkin' 4.69 for a twelve pack.  What's more is that it
doesn't smell like something from a chem lab, either.  But then, I like
Leinenkugel's and Mickey's, what would I know?
From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: best beer under $6
Date: 7 Oct 1992 16:16:35 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu

In article <1992Oct07.125400.17637@brtph560.bnr.ca> trice@bnr.ca writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.234615.5675@samba.oit.unc.edu>, geiger@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Ralph Geiger) writes:
>|> A question for all:
...
>|> What's the best beer available in the US for under $6 a six-pack?  I'm
>|> looking for a good everyday brew.  By the way, I'm currently trapped in
>|> Chapel Hill, NC, so please don't torture me with poetic descriptions of
>|> micro-brewery products available only in Vermont or some such place!

>For under $6 a six pack (in no particular order):
>Sam Adams
>Fosters
>Guiness (sp?)
>Negra Modelo              
>Anchor Steam (yes, I have seen it for $5.99)

   I'm not trying to be a wet blanket, but this kind of posting
should probably be restricted to a local distribution, if possible.
In my travels around the country, I've seen a wide variation in the
price of beer, both in general and brand-specific.  For example, in
Rhode Island, it's difficult to find *any* non-Budmilloors beer for
under $6/sixpack-- even Sam Adams is generally closer to $7 when
the steep liquor and local taxes are added.  On the other hand,
when I've been in Wisconsin, the LA area, and Florida, a lot of
decent beer like those listed above could be found (and enjoyed!)
for under $6.
   Since I'm using the bandwidth... the worst thing I encountered
when moving from Wisconsin to RI was when I searched for a decent
beer store.  Not only is the selection poor in general, but prices
are at least 50% higher across the board.  I could get Anchor Porter
for $5.50/six (in 1989) in WI, but it ranges from $10 to $13 here!
Now, I've gotten into the habit of using business travel as an
opportunity to search out and enjoy good beer at reasonable prices.
(Anybody want to meet me at the Crown City Brewery in Pasadena CA
in early December? :-)
--
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: imes@flounder.cis.ohio-state.edu (jeffrey imes)
Subject: Re: beer DRINKING
Keywords: beer
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:20:49 GMT

In article <mcnair.24.718747540@slab.unt.edu> mcnair@slab.unt.edu (SEAN MCNAIR) writes:
>    I have been drinking beer since I was very young (three years.) I am now 

[..bulk deleted..]

Please disregard any posts made by this person as he is probably a fake.  I've
seen other ridiculous posts by him on other groups, and they've all been just
as tasteless.  

BTW, he also states other posts that he is a professional masseuse, is in
college, has been laid off, is 48 years old, lives in the dorm, etc.....

Net Op...can this twit be locked out???
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Subject: Re: Youngs RamRod
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:59:37 GMT

>> = Me
>  = Scott Bickham

>> Barley wines generally go 8-10%.  That's not saying they can't go higher,
>> but most are around that.  The '28' in EKU 28 refers to original gravity
>> in degrees plato; this translates to about 1.114 in the units most of us
>	               			      ^^^^^
>		Jon, don't you really mean   1.140 here ;-)

Not sure I understand the smiley in this context, but I'll answer
as if it's a serious question.  No, I mean't 114, not 140.  Gravity
degrees are roughly degrees Plato multiplyed by 4;  28 * 4 = 112;
I bumped it up 2 points because I thought I remembered 114 from
some other source (Eckhardt?).  One of the strong dopplebocks,
either EKU or Samichlaus, starts around here and finishes at around
001 or 002. That's some pretty incredible attenuation.

Jon Binkley

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: binkley@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Jon Binkley)
Subject: Re: Youngs RamRod
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:17:09 GMT

brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us (Mike Wilson) writes:

>I always thought that the conventional strength of a barley wine was 12-14%. 
>And doesn't EKU have a beer that's 28%?  Then again, I seem to remember them
>saying that they couldn't call it beer, but a malt liquor.  That might explain.

Barley wines generally go 8-10%.  That's not saying they can't go higher,
but most are around that.  The '28' in EKU 28 refers to original gravity
in degrees plato; this translates to about 1.114 in the units most of us
think about.  It's alcohol content is about 14%.  'Malt Liquor' is strictly
a legal term required by some (not all) states, for beer over 6%.  However,
if any beer ever deserved the term it's EKU 28, which tastes to me like
malt syrup plus two shots of everclear.

Jon Binkley

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