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From: jmatrow@donald.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (John Matrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Problems with NCR 3434-3000 and NW 3.11
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:53:34 GMT
Reply-To: jmatrow@donald.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (John Matrow)
Organization: NCR Corporation Wichita, KS

In article <1992Sep9.130906.25487@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk> lo@next.csc.cuhk.hk (Y. Y. Lo) writes:
>We have installed two NCR 3434-3000
>Problems first came on Aug. 17, Console got a message said 'PLEASE REBOOT
>THE SYSTEM AND RESET'. We got system lockup after loading the SCSI driv)
>then we had to make a cold boot, this time it seemed work fine but cannot
>mount the DAT volume. We had to restore  all the backup after repeated
>the VREPAIR for several time.
>two days after, the same problem came again but this when we rebooted the
>system, it gave us some warning as followings:-

First of all, make sure you have this year's 53C700 SCSI Host Adapter,
part number 150-0014198. Customer Services Bulletin 92-0106 puts this
part in Field Retrofit Order kit 603-5006441.

Secondly, make sure you are running non-synchronous SCSI with '/ns'
on the 'load ncr1c700' command.

Third, go ahead and use the v2.01 driver. v2.03 is now available from
Clemson, too.

-- 
John Matrow   Systems Integration, NCR Peripheral Products Division
 NCR:654-8851 <John.Matrow@WichitaKS.NCR.COM>
(316)636-8851 <uunet!ncrlnk!ncrwic!john.matrow>
 FAX:636-8889 "DISK ARRAYS R US"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
From: Y. Y. Lo <lo@next.csc.cuhk.hk>
Subject: RE: NCR 3445 SCSI BUS TIMEOUT/RESET
Organization: Computer Services Centre, The Chinese University of Hong
     Kong
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 05:45:27 GMT

We got two NCR 3445 with SVR4 version 1.03 and the hardware configuration
are as follows:-

1.	486/33MHz  CPU
2.	- Keyboard Controller (ver. 3.1)
	- ROM BIOS (PCBO-2)
	- NCR BIOS 1.03.00
	- PHEON{X BIOS 1.02.07
3.	SCSI-2 Controller
4.	16MB Memories x 2
5.	MPCA/MCA
6.	STARGATE TTY Controller
7.	MAXTOR 670MB Hard disk (SCSI) X 2
8.	TAPE DRIVE 320/525 MB (SCSI)

We are experiencing frequent SCSI BUS TIMEOUT/RESET for almost 2 months
and still couldn't get it fix. Our NCR representative did a lot of work
on it, sending all of the dump tapes to their plant and concluded that
the panic resulted when the system tried to access/write contents of the
swap area which was corrupted.
Engineer supects that file corruption existed within the swap partition
which was caused by or may have resulted from SCSI BUS TIMEOUT?RESET
error that processed the panic trap.
Does anybody experience the above problem pls email to me.

Many many thanks.

Y. Y. Lo
lo@next.csc.cuhk.hk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
From: sandi@uctcs.cs.uct.ac.za (Sandi Donno)
Subject: Re: Max number of X clients, ftp sessions etc.
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 10:05:46 GMT

In <1992Aug31.212942.6511@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> otto@grok94.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Greg Otto) writes:

>In article <sandi.715016749@uctcs>, sandi@uctcs.cs.uct.ac.za (Sandi Donno) writes:
>|> Another problem: I can't get more than 16 X clients running at the
>|> same time on our NCR 3450. That is, in total, so if I have two X-terminals 
>|> I can't even log both in the same time (my .xsession opens up several 
>|> X clients).  
>|> 
>|> At first, I thought it might be some X configuration problem, but
>|> then I discovered that when I have the maximum number of windows open,
>|> I cannot ftp to the 3450 (I get a connection refused message). Kill one
>|> window, ftp works again. So this points to some WIN-TCP configuration
>|> problem.
>|> 
>|> Next thing I do is to increase all the NDEV type TCP/IP parameters to
>|> their maximum (ARP_NDEV, ARP_TABSIZE, IP_NDEV, IP_NLINK, IP_NROUTES,
>|> RAW_NDEV, TCP_NDEV, TELNET_NDEV, UDP_NDEV, WTTY_NDEV), relink the kernel,
>|> change the opt/net/tcpip/stune files to match the /etc/conf/cf.d/stune
>|> changes, and reboot. No change.
>|> 
>|> What else have I missed? Where in TFM do I look?

>NUMTIM and NUMTRW must match TCP_NDEV.

Thanks, Greg. I had already found out by experimentation that the
default value of NUMTRW (16) was my problem; you beat me to posting
the solution. It is good to know how these parameters shoudl relate to
each other.

>Concerning X sessions, you might want to check to be sure you have enough
>pts devices configured for xterms (determined when you install nsu, check
>/dev/pts*).
--
Sandi Donno
Computer Systems Manager
Computer Science Department
University of Cape Town
South Africa
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr,comp.sys.novell
From: Y. Y. Lo <lo@next.csc.cuhk.hk>
Subject: Problems with NCR 3434-3000 and NW 3.11
Organization: Computer Services Centre, The Chinese University of Hong
     Kong
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:09:06 GMT

Hi,
Does anybody out there have any experince on working with the NCR
3434-300 under Netware 3.11.
We have installed two NCR 3434-3000, 486-33MHz Server (one for daily use
and the other for backup - both have same configuration) for almost one
year, so far so good. The problems came after we installed on 6091-5500
external 1.2GB hard disk on the daily use server (all of the disks are
external) and on internal 1.2GB on the backup server. The backup server
is not connect to the lan unless the daily use server break down.
Problems first came on Aug. 17, Console got a message said 'PLEASE REBOOT
THE SYSTEM AND RESET'. We got system lockup after loading the SCSI driv)
then we had to make a cold boot, this time it seemed work fine but cannot
mount the DAT volume. We had to restore  all the backup after repeated
the VREPAIR for several time.
two days after, the same problem came again but this when we rebooted the
system, it gave us some warning as followings:-
	Volume DAT is missing segment 0
	Volume DAT first segment (1) does not start at block 0
	Definition for sync 4 of volume DAT removed
	Definition for volume DAT is invalid
On subsequent bootup, the error message was:
	Problem with file 00040001. Q length extended old, length=0, New
length=4096
	Problem with file Q_0004SRV (TTS file ... was not changed) length
kept=0, had allocated=4096
We found that there had two different version of SCSI driver
(NCR1700.DSK) version 1.03 and 2.01, they are not interchangable.
I would say that it seems to be the SCSI driver problems? Does any body
have such experince orif you have some hints pls email to my account.
I would appreciate your prompt response, THANKS...

Y. Y. Lo
lo@next.csc.cuhk.hk
From: uyeno@leds.enet.dec.com (My name is Alice Uyeno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
Subject: NCR 53C720
Date: 12 Sep 92 01:33:57 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

I'm trying to get the latest errata sheet for the NCR 53C720.  Can anybody
help, since I seem to be playing phone tag with NCR.  I have the one from
Jan/Feb 1992, but I hear that there is an updated one.  Also, I'd like to know
the status of the previous errata sheet.....have all these problems been fixed?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: CHUCK@bkmain.poly-east-london.ac.uk (Chuck Foster)
Subject: Re: who is on LOOPBACK?
Reply-To: Chuck@bkmain.poly-east-london.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:05:59 GMT

>      As   a   few-off  (rather  than  a  general  purpose  program)  use
> MONITOR_NET -V, go to the  detail-screen  for  each  VC  and  see  whose
> "Physical  Link Type" is LOOPBACK.  If you've got > 1 (or rather > 2) of
> these you can marry them up by noting the Xmit & Recv counts at the  "V"
> overview  screen  (opposite  ends  of the same VC will have these counts
> reversed).

I tend to use LIST_VCS to look at them. The problem would be that as I am
sequentially scanning through the vcs, the xmit/rcev counts might change
whilst I am running through them.

Or is there a software interupt I can call to temporarily lock them?
This search is likely to be on a remote machine, via a slave and R$CALL.
From: GOLDSTEIN@CSSS-A.Prime.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Primes and Museums (was Re: The facts about prime and startrek TNG)
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:48:23 GMT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

To:       Info-Prime mail list (info-prime@blx-a)
From:     D. Miles Goldstein (Goldstein@Csss-A)
Date:     08 Sep 92  8:45 AM
Subject:  Primes and Museums (was Re: The facts about prime and startrek TNG)

>>  Oh yeah one last thing, i visited the national space museum in holland and
>>  they showed a movie about computer satellite communication, and yes there
>>  was a Prime in it. I believe a Prime 9955, i was astonished to see that
>>  they chose a prime instead of an IBM who is the biggest sponser of the
>>  museum.
>
> I believe that the Smithsonian also has one in their Mars probe display.

Smithsonian; Space Museum; I think it is a 750 (could be an 850),
in the Voyager exhibit (I think) ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: gml4410@ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Subject: Command functions in C
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:28:25 GMT


     I  would  like to have a C program be a command function on Primos.
Does anyone know how this can be done?

     Since   the   program  uses  I/O  and  argv/argc  it  has  to  load
(ANSI_)CCMAIN, so do I have access to any of the  original  EPF  command
arguments? 


-------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
*not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else."
From: gml4410@ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: RE 4150 Tuning
Date: 8 Sep 92 08:52:39 GMT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

> John Bush wrote about the problem of the huge timeslice granted at login
> and ways to break loose from it.  We're a purely Information shop.
> Based on a suggestion we received years ago, our logins are handled by
> a login.comi:
> 
>      term -break off
>      Inform
> 
> where cmdnc0>inform.cpl is:
> 
>      co -tty
>      info
>      &return
> 
> As you can see, we're trying to keep breaks disabled in the process.

     But  breaks are disabled *BY DEFAULT* during login until the end of
the users LOGIN.CPL (in fact *all* software interrupts are disabled,  so
if,  for  example, you wish to use limit$ to raise an ALARM$ you need to
re-enable the relevant software interrupt yourself....).  If  you  don't
believe  me,  login  to  an  account  using an external LOGIN and a user
LOGIN.cpl which does nothing about breaks  and  type  ctl-P  immediately
after the password.  See when the break is handled. 

> My question is, will this approach also take care of the login time-
> slice problem as well?  We're running Primos 23.2 and Information
> 8.2.r5.

     As  far  as I am aware the "huge timeslice at login" has gone away.
The one I know about (because I fixed it myself) was  a  result  of  the
LOGOUT_SERVER  process arriving at Rev22.1(?).  The problem was not that
a large timeslice was set at login, but rather that  a  large  timeslice
was  set  as the process logged out.  This wasn't reset when the process
was woken up.  This has now been fixed (can't remember in which  module,
though, it wasn't where I had done it...). 


-------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
*not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else."
From: PJC@ukhayc.prime.com
Subject: re: Re: Primes and Museums (was Re: The facts about prime and startrek TNG)
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:53:48 GMT

I think you got ripped off paying $1198 for all the Start Trek Videos. In
the UK I only paid 9.99 pounds for 2 episodes which meant the whole lot
only cost me 399.60 UK pounds or approx $779! (Did you get both copies of
episode one, the all colour version and the mixed colour/black and white
one).

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: J.BUSH@MD-B.Prime.COM (John Bush, PrimeService +1 508-620-2800 Voice x7068 Fax x5744)
Subject: RE: RE 4150 Tuning
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:28:12 GMT

Re (from Eric Ross):
> John Bush wrote about the problem of the huge timeslice granted at login
> and ways to break loose from it.  We're a purely Information shop.
> Based on a suggestion we received years ago, our logins are handled by
> a login.comi:
>
>      term -break off
>      Inform
>
> where cmdnc0>inform.cpl is:
>
>      co -tty
>      info
>      &return
>
> As you can see, we're trying to keep breaks disabled in the process.
>
> My question is, will this approach also take care of the login time-
> slice problem as well?  We're running Primos 23.2 and Information
> 8.2.r5.

  Here's a bit of good news.  I researched the problem (SPAR 4042848)
  and learned that a fix went into Primos 22.1.2 and 23.0.0.

  As of these revisions, the initial timeslice value is no longer a
  problem.  The fix was to call SCHED as soon as the process starts
  running, which is semi-equivalent to my suggestion to CALL RECYCL
  from the External Login program.

  To answer your actual question, I'm not sure!  Can anyone explain
  why exiting from LOGIN.CPL would have reinitialized the timeslice
  in the first place?  (The original suggestion came from past
  experience, and now I doubt the assumptions under which I originally
  operated).  I suffer from inverse Deja Vu...

Regards,
John


Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: SYS_ADMIN@condor.nepean.uws.edu.au
Subject: ICON '92 now '93
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Organization: University of Western Sydney,Nepean,New South Wales,Australia.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:15:03 GMT

From:  Board of Directors, Information Conference, Inc  (ICON)
To:    Interested Parties
Re:    Reschedule of ICON '92


ICON '92, set for November 10th., 11th., and 12th., in Anaheim California
will be rescheduled for a date to be announced in February of '93.

Since ICON was founded from the Southern California Prime Information User's
Group and since Prime Information has been our main focus for the annual
conference, we feel that the conference would serve no purpose to our user
community at this time.
With the announcement of the VMark purchase of PI we feel our community would
gain more by switching to Fitzgerald and Long's UniVerse symposium
scheduled for October 18th-20th in Denver.  Having a second conference
a few weeks later will not provide much in the way of new information on
the situation at that time.  We strongly urge all PI users to contact
and attend the October conference.
This has been a very difficult decision for the board to make.  This was
to be our 10th conference and a change in direction/focus of the group, but
with the 'Unknown Factors' over this summer it was getting a little strange.
We are pleased with the VMark purchase of PI and plan to work closely with
VMark and PrimeService in planning our February Conference.
By February, we plan to have a more stable, planned, environment for the
conference with speakers who can address the issues facing our base of
Prime and PI users.  We will announce the date after contacting the hotel
site in Anaheim.  We hope you mark your calendars for a fun and informative
time in (warm) Southern California in February!



____             ____                       Systems Administrator
 /__)  _   /_     /   /_   _   _ _   _   _  University of Western Sydney,
/__)  (_) /__)   /   /  ) (_) / ) ) (_( `-, Nepean, New South Wales, Australia.
------------------------------------------  Tel.: 047 360845 Fax: 047 360846
                                            E-mail: R.Thomas@uws.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: CHUCK@bkmain.poly-east-london.ac.uk (Chuck Foster)
Subject: Virtual Circuit Mapping
Reply-To: Chuck@bkmain.poly-east-london.ac.uk
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:40:57 GMT

Can anyone supply a quick answer as to how one would find the user no of a
process that has looped back onto the same system. Actually, if a general
'find the remote end user number' routine is available that would be nice!

Its probably staring me in the face, but I haven't twigged it yet ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: gml4410@ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Subject: Re: who is on LOOPBACK?
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:11:05 GMT

> Can anyone supply a quick answer as to how one would find the user no of a
> process that has looped back onto the same system. Actually, if a general
> 'find the remote end user number' routine is available that would be nice!

     As   a   few-off  (rather  than  a  general  purpose  program)  use
MONITOR_NET -V, go to the  detail-screen  for  each  VC  and  see  whose
"Physical  Link Type" is LOOPBACK.  If you've got > 1 (or rather > 2) of
these you can marry them up by noting the Xmit & Recv counts at the  "V"
overview  screen  (opposite  ends  of the same VC will have these counts
reversed). 


-------------------------- Gordon Lack ----------------------------------
The contents of this message *may* reflect my personal opinion.  They are
*not* intended to reflect those of my employer, or anyone else."

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: gml4410@ggr.co.uk (Lack Mr G M)
Subject: Re: Problem with ANSI C
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:21:41 GMT

> You muse typecast the return value to the type of the function.
> I believe that that is not strictly required in ANSI, but the

     My  belief  (from  tghe  K&R  excerpt  at  the  end of the original
indicated) was that, rather than being "not strictly  required"  it  was
"strictly *not* required". 

>                                         Furthermore : use new
> stype function argument declarations !!!

     I  would  do,  but  the  test  program  was  written to see what ci
*without* the -ansi options did as well (it was happy, but then NULL  is
0 without -ansi...).

     Perhaps  just  changing  stdio.h.ins.cc (and stdlib.h.ins.cc !!) so
that NULL is 0 even when _STDC_ is set  would  remove  the  problem?  or
would that lead to other ones... 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: MSO@eeyore.usc.edu
Subject: ICON '92 now '93
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:15:03 GMT

From:  Board of Directors, Information Conference, Inc  (ICON)
To:    Interested Parties
Re:    Reschedule of ICON '92


ICON '92, set for November 10th., 11th., and 12th., in Anaheim California
will be rescheduled for a date to be announced in February of '93.

Since ICON was founded from the Southern California Prime Information User's
Group and since Prime Information has been our main focus for the annual
conference, we feel that the conference would serve no purpose to our user
community at this time.
With the announcement of the VMark purchase of PI we feel our community would
gain more by switching to Fitzgerald and Long's UniVerse symposium
scheduled for October 18th-20th in Denver.  Having a second conference
a few weeks later will not provide much in the way of new information on
the situation at that time.  We strongly urge all PI users to contact
and attend the October conference.
This has been a very difficult decision for the board to make.  This was
to be our 10th conference and a change in direction/focus of the group, but
with the 'Unknown Factors' over this summer it was getting a little strange.
We are pleased with the VMark purchase of PI and plan to work closely with
VMark and PrimeService in planning our February Conference.
By February, we plan to have a more stable, planned, environment for the
conference with speakers who can address the issues facing our base of
Prime and PI users.  We will announce the date after contacting the hotel
site in Anaheim.  We hope you mark your calendars for a fun and informative
time in (warm) Southern California in February!
From: R.KITTREDGE@MD-B.Prime.COM (Roland Kittredge - Marketing 508-620-2800 x4666)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: BASIC PROGRAM
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:42:16 GMT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

GOOD MORNIN' WORLD...

JUST CHECKIN', I HATE RE-INVENTIN' THE WHEEL, DOES ANYONE OUT THERE HAVE A
LOAN REPAYMENT PROGRAM, WRITTEN IN BASIC THAT I COULD USE. SHO' WOULD
APPRECIATE IT.

THANKS

ROLAND KITTREDGE (R.KITTREDGE@MD-B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: sys_admin@condor.nepean.uws.edu.au (Bob Thomas)
Subject: (none)
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Organization: University of Western Sydney,Nepean,New South Wales,Australia.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:08:25 GMT

                   Subject:  Getting used to MAILER

         Please accept my apologies in resending the mail from MSO about
the ICON conference.

         I am practising using the editor within MAILER.

         The problem is that I forget to delete the addresses when I forward
a mail item. I think I have the idea now.




____             ____                       Systems Administrator
 /__)  _   /_     /   /_   _   _ _   _   _  University of Western Sydney,
/__)  (_) /__)   /   /  ) (_) / ) ) (_( `-, Nepean, New South Wales, Australia.
------------------------------------------  Tel.: 047 360845 Fax: 047 360846
                                            E-mail: R.Thomas@uws.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: GORMAN_B@prime1.lancashire-poly.ac.uk (Barry Gorman)
Subject: NULL pointers and ANSI (there is a bug)
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:56:07 GMT

I can confirm that there is a problem with NULL as a *struct at T3.0-23.0; and
I append an example below. Being an avid C fan, and a reader of comp.std.c and
comp.lang.c, I feel qualified to make a comment.

The token 0 has *always* been a valid designator for a NULL pointer; and it
still is in ANSI C. It is up to the compiler to convert 0 to whatever is needed
for the particular implementation. Thus if Pr1me wanted to do the job properly,
which would have broken faulty code, NULL would have been 7777/0. n.b. I said
the token 0, not the value 0 (e.g. (1-1)).

It is up to the implementor to put a definition for NULL in stdio.h etc in
whatever form is needed for the implementation. However 0 alone should be
sufficient, if not, valid code will break. However, I am in favour of using
the redundant cast (void *) as this gives a warning to those
too thick to remember the difference between NULL and null '\0'. This cast
should be harmless when NULL is used properly.

Thus the user should *never* have to cast NULL. The thing that I like about
ANSI C introducing NULL* is the possibility of writing complex code without
the need of explicit casts in the main body. (What I do in my libraries and
macros is another matter.)

The interesting thing about the error message below is that it displays the
*expanded* form of the line of code. Is this a bug, or a "feature"?

Barry
.....

p.s. K&R is not as good as H&S as a reference, the standard is better than both.


---------------------------------------------------------------------------
99: HOME: slist test.cc
#include <stdio.h>
typedef struct {int a; int b;} S;
S *fun(void) {return NULL;}
496: HOME: ci test -ansi
[CI Rev. T3.0-23.0 Copyright (c) 1990, Prime Computer, Inc.]
[Serial #S035-KLR0EC-S89V (East London Polytechnic)]

Error# 1 on source line = 3 has severity Warning:
    S *fun(void) {return ((void *)0) ;}
                                     ^
  This expression mixed usage of pointers pointing to simple types and
  complex types.

00 Errors and 01 Warning detected in 3 lines and 208 include lines.
3726: oops! como -e
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