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From: M19249@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Boos for Danny
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:09:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.170223.10891@husc3.harvard.edu>
koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis) writes:
 
>
>I heard that the White House staff were worried that if Georgie threw
>out a ball on opening day he would be boo'd.  I read this before
>opening day.  I guess they decided to dend Danny instead. We all
>know he is Georgie's attack dog or was it pit bull he said about his
>helping to fight Pat Buachanan's challenge.  Whatever he compared
>himself to we can all be sure it was dumb.
 
But they did send GHWB to Baltimore for the first pitch in the new ballpark.
His 15 year old grandson put one right over the plate.  Then GHWB threw one
into the dirt to the left of the plate.  The commentators later made a comment
about pitching not being easy while you're wearing a bulletproof vest.  So,
here is my DQ question: Was he also wearing a vest but still got the pitch to
the plate?  BTW, GHWB later dropped by the radio booth and had an on-air chat
with the announcers.  How's that for election-year free airtime "product
placement"?
-DW
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: golf trips
From: krueger@galileo.uucp (Ted Krueger)
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:08:03 MST
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1992Apr9.234240.10899@husc3.harvard.edu> koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis) writes:
>
>Rubbergate didnt actually cost the taxpayers anything.

What?  Who do you think pays the salaries of the people who 
worked in that bank?  Don't you know that the Sergant At Arms 
regularly withdrew funds from a real Washington bank in order 
to cover House Bank overdrafts?  Who pays for the costs of 
running the account at that other Washington bank?  Who pays 
the salaries of the Congressmen?  What happened to the taxes 
that the Congressmen are supposed to pay on income of this 
type?

Perhaps you haven't heard that house members bounced checks 
and loaned that money to their re-election campaign funds 
at 16% interest.

Anthony, the main reason why people are upset over rubbergate 
is that it is just another example of congress making one set 
of laws for the country to live by and another set of rules 
for themselves.  For example: are you aware that Affirmative 
Action laws do not apply to Congress.  Boy, what fairness.

Ted

Q: How many feminists does it take to screw in a lightbulb?
A: That's not funny.
---------- krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu ----------  
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jks2x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason)
Subject: Re: Quayle Quotes: some of these are real good
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:39:26 GMT

In article <Apr.6.15.38.28.1992.6137@gandalf.rutgers.edu> shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan) writes:
>This really isn't a flame, even though it may sound like one.
>
>I've been reading this group for about a month now and it seems like
>the only thing that gets posted here about Dan Quayle is this list.
>This list has been posted almost weekly (it seems), and I have seen
>little else in the way of activity here.
>
>Did I miss out on this group when it was in its prime?  

	Unfortunately you did.  But, lucky for you and the rest
of us, it's an election year.  This newgroup is bound to be lit
up like a christmas tree as we get closer to November.

-Jason
--
"One day I'll get what's mine through the persistence of time"
						    -Anthrax 'Time'
From: elambert@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Eber Lambert)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Quayle Quotes: some of these are real good
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:52:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: qualcom.elambert.702597175
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan) writes:

>This really isn't a flame, even though it may sound like one.

>I've been reading this group for about a month now and it seems like
>the only thing that gets posted here about Dan Quayle is this list.
>This list has been posted almost weekly (it seems), and I have seen
>little else in the way of activity here.


Oh come on Susan... we've also argued endlessly over the liberal 
media bias (wherever it is {surely not in So. Calif}), and the
fact that if you cant ace Astronomy 101 youre stupid, and found
out Marilyn Quayle has a staff we pay for and a new porno book
out....

See George is running for re-erection, hence they keep Quayle
locked up... look for plenty of activity around the VP debates and
after November. 

el

ps: oh yes when things get really slow we quibble about spelling.
-- 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: kenh@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ken Hudson)
Subject: Re: rumored blunder
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 13:18:41 EDT

 
Can anyone confirm that "DQ sans IQ" said something like the following
on the eve of his trip to Latin America?
 
         Going to Latin America definitely makes me
         regret not having studied Latin in High School....
 
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark)
Subject: Re: Curve?  What curve?
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 00:04:35 GMT
Organization: Self

In article <167C1102DA.KENH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> kenh@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ken Hudson) writes:
>In article <1992Mar24.080847@IASTATE.EDU>
>danwell@IASTATE.EDU (Daniel A Ashlock) writes:
> 
>>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>   No, what you say is in fact nonsense.  I would happily award an 'A'
>>to everyone in one of my introductory courses if they all got 90%+ on their
>>tests and homework.  I _have had_ one section of Freshman calc in which no F's
>>or D's were awarded (small class, it met at dinnertime, I could teach
>>intensively).  There is no "curve" in my classes, just a standard to
>>meet.
>>
> 
>On one hand i agree:  if students meet the standard they should PASS.
>But an "A" represents excellence beyond the minimum standards, i.e.
>someone who MORE than grasps those standards, someone who can USE them
>in new ways, EXPAND them, EXCEL...  The system you are using is PASS/FAIL.
>Use it in good health.  Just be honest and call it what it is.
> 
>As far as the 90% goes, do you include only minimal standards, in which
>case you PASS those who meet 90% of the standard?  Or do you include
>essential questions plus more difficult ones to test greater degrees
>of application of the principles involved?  How you weight these two
>types of questions determines whether the test is an easy giveaway or
>whether it's a real bitch.  If you give a tough one, and the best
>student can't get above 50%, do you fail the whole group?  Or do you
>flunk yourself for having failed to create a perfect test wherein your
>class could easily make 90%.
> 
>>   "Curves" are pernicious.
> 
>Yes...at the low end where they seem to insist some should FAIL when
>that is often not at all the case.  "No D's or F's" should be the norm.
>After all, who failed except those who admitted unqualified,
>incapable students into a class for which they obviously were not
>ready...?
> 
>But on the high end, i disagree.  They separate the exceptional from
>the adequate.  That difference counts when you buy your next car.  It
>should count when weighting one person's skill against another.
> 
>And of course, you can flunk me for this response which has nothing
>to do with Danny Boy, fair but dull...
> 

Just to add my two cents; the normal (gausian) curve applies to large
populations.  When you have a small class, it quite possible for most
of the students to be exceptional (your criteria).  If you had a class
of 10000, you could count on a normal distribution (except, even there,
it might be truncated on the lower end by admission requirements).  You
have to consider the curve to be valid over a combination of many
classes; to force grades down by making a comparison to other immediate
class members is fallacious.

Obligatory Danny Comment:  Did you see the news story about his trying
to get tickets when it looked like Indiana might be in the playoff game
tonite.  Seems his staff was pushing hard but nobody gave.  

-- 
Al - aclark@netcom.com - My opinions are my own.
      *** Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty! ***
From: craig@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Ralph Craig)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: DQ: Ig Nobel Education Prize
Date: 15 Apr 92 00:54:32 GMT
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.


	The First Annual Ig Nobel Prize Ceremony was held at the MIT Museum
on the evening of October 31, 1991.  Scientists of all heights remember 
Ignatius (Ig) Nobel, presumed inventor of soda pop and co-inventor of excelsior,
as the founder of the Ig Nobel Prize, establishe to promote irreproducible 
achievements in science and other areas of human endeavor.

	The 1991 Ig Nobel Education Prize went to J. Danforth Quayle, consumer
of time and occupier of space, for demonstrating, better than anyone else,
the need for science education.  The acceptance speech was delivered by some-
one who claimed to be Vice President Quayle but who appeared to be an eight-
year-old girl.

	Quayle delivered a stirring speech, which is here reproduced in full
(in violation of probably quite a few copyright laws):

	Thank you. Thank you for this great honor.

	As you know, education is very important to me.  I came to
	value it rather late in life.  When I was in college, I wasted 
	my time drinking beer, playing golf, and chasing babes.  Now
	that I am Chairman of the National Space Council and Vice Pres-
	ident of the United States, I sorely regret my lack of knowledge
	about Science and Technology.

	Tomorrow, I am going to return to Washington and urge the Pres-
	ident to foin me in taking up the study of mathematics.

	I look forward with great joy to learning the calculus.  Soon
	I will be able to take derivatives of simple continuous functions.
	Then I will learn to do integrals.  I will understand the rela-
	tionship between displacement, velocity, and acceleration.

	I believe every public officeholder should have these skills.

	Thank you.

	Other Ig Nobel prize winners included Erich Von Daniken, visionary
author of "Chariots of the Gods", winner of the Literature prize for ex-
plaining how human civilization was influenced by ancient astronauts from
outer space, and Edward Teller, winner of the Ig Nobel Peace Prize for 
his life-long efforts to change the meaning of peace as we know it.
From: unruley@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Kriss Boyce)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: a quayle quote
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:06:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.unruley.703033561

Hi! 
i saw this one on someone' .sig and thought it was too good  not to post here....
deepest apologoes of this is a repeat...
"The Civil War was the best war we've ever had because when you're fighting    
against yourself, you're alyays going to win."
Dan Quayle

it was in Andrew Certain's .sig....

kriss
From: koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: golf trips
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:53:51 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Recently, I wrote that Rubbergate didnt cost the taxpayers any money
while golf trips did.  

SOmeone wrote in saying untrue and used the _NYPOST_ for his/her
facts.  I am afraid the poster should read the _NYTIMES_ especially
todays (17 april).  In it stated taht 47% of all people polled incorrectly
thought that public funds were used to cover the cost of bounced checks.
THe TImes stated taht the  HOuse Bank was not like a regular bank,
it did not give interest or have credit cards etc.  Overdrafts were
covered by other members money.  HTere were no public funds in the
bank and no public funds were used ot cover the overdrafts (pp.14-5)

Of course, my original positng was to point out Danny Boy's pathetic
political manuevrings to take the heat off of his golf trips (whihc are
minor compared to all those "Non" political campaign stops that Gerogie
takes at public expense)

As another poster said Danny would seem more funny if he wasnt VP. And,
I might add if he wasnt considered a serious republican candidate in
1996!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: wall@cc.swarthmore.edu (Matthew Wall)
Subject: Dan on Presidential Perks
Organization: CC
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:31:37 GMT

Saw this on the news last night:

Reporters in the Oval Office, asking Bush and Quayle about
the fact Quayle uses a taxpayer-financed jet (Good old Air
Force 2) at the expense of approximately $26,000 an hour to
go on golfing vacations entirely unassociated with his duties
as veep:

DQ: "I'm glad you asked me that. This gives me the perfect
opportunity to talk about the problems with this Congress..."

proceeds to discuss Congressional perks, most of which have
now been discontinued.
From: goldsman@CC.GATECH.EDU (Mike Goldsman)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Quote list attributions
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:33:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: atlanta.9204061733.AA20256


============================================================================
Quayle Quotes                                      Last updated Feb 22, 1992
============================================================================
Thanks to:
     James Allenspach   jima@buhub.bradley.edu 
     Ken Tubman         dprkmt@Arco.COM 
     David K. Poulsen   poulsen@csrd.uiuc.edu
     Subodh Bapat       mailrus!uflorida!rm1!bapat@uunet.UU.NET 
     Tim Dodge          dodgeT%moravian.edu@RELAY.CS.NET
     David Ruderman     ruderman@sbcs.sunysb.edu 
     Ron Dippold        rdippold@drzeus.qualcomm.com
     Tim Antonsen       antonsen@hpcndaw.CND.HP.COM 
     Dave Goldsman      dgholdsma@gtri01.gatech.edu
     JV Heiskanen       jvh@mits.mdata.fi 

and me

     Mike Goldsman      goldsman@cc.g@prism.gatech.edu

Please send me any additions/correction to me...
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jks2x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason)
Subject: Letterman knows...
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 01:18:36 GMT

	This was Dave Letterman's top 10 lists the other night.  Ya
gotta love number 3!

		TOP TEN WAYS BUSH COULD BLOW IT IN '92

10.	Unloads Barbara for a nineteen-year-old male prostitute

9.	Gets really sick during White House ceremony; throws up on Super
	Bowl winners

8.	Opers fire with an Uzi on a tour group

7.	Guest stars on "Matlock"; shoots Andy Griffith in face

6.	It is revealed he bet against the U.S. in the Gulf War

5.	Decides to grow stylish Hitler mustache

4.	Goes on "Jeopardy!"; loses $82,000 in taxpayers' money

3.	Chooses Quayle as his running mate

2.	Gets careless about secret family in West Virginia

1.	Appears on "Donahue" as "Debbie Bush"


-Jason

--
"One day I'll get what's mine through the persistence of time"
						    -Anthrax 'Time'
From: md85-epi@dront.nada.kth.se (Urban Koistinen)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Who is this Quayle + golf
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:36:51 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

->Where ever did we get him?  What was Georgie thinking when he nominated
->him?
- 
-I think it's likely that Quayle was selected as a lightning rod, and  
-because Bush doesn't have the same concern the rest of us do -- he'll  
- [boring continuation removed]
-
---
-
-Regards,
---paul sanchez
-
-paul@music.sie.arizona.edu  (NeXT mail welcome)

"I want to be Robin to Bushs Batman"
Does Bush have a son called Christoffer Robin?
To me Quayle is Winnie the Pooh, I love him.

Anyone know what golf handicap our hero has?

-- 
Urban Koistinen - md85-epi@nada.kth.se
From: gonzalez@lonestar.utsa.edu (Martin M. Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: golf trips
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:26:11 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio

In article <1992Apr9.234240.10899@husc3.harvard.edu> koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis) writes:
>
Stuff deleted--but in reference to our own Danny boy:

>
>Where ever did we get him?  What was Georgie thinking when he nominated
>him?

This is a really good question.  I remember when he was nominated and he
was so happy and springy and he almost leapt up on the stage and
said to George (who tried to hold him back)  "Wait a minute."

I could not believe it!  never having heard of DQ, I thought that George
was going to be eclipsed, that his political life was over.  I mean here
was a hot wire going on the ticket as VP.  and George was looking
real bad and everyone was making fun of him.

But then a real interesting thing happened.  The media had a feeding frenzy
at DQ's expense.  And guess what. George started looking better.  All
the fun was slung at DQ and George got breathing space.  Byt the time
George was elected prez, he looked downright presidential.
What happened????

I think that what happened was that DQ was brought in as a lightning rod,
which is indeed what he is/was.  I mean if you put an idiot and a blithering
idiot side by side, the idiot looks good by comparison.  And the press,
like the sheep they are, ate it up.  I mean it is easier to make fun of
DQ than to think for yourself.  (Although it must be admitted that
making fun of DQ IS fun, albeit easy).   For those of you who feel moved
to defend the intellectual integrity of the press, remeber that Dan
Rather is the best paid newsperson alive.  THE BEST.

BTW, Lee Atwater just about admitted as much when he was dying and found
Jesus.  He said that DQ was indeed a lightning rod.  (I dont know what
date, but it was in the NYT.

So: where di DQ come from?  Very, very good political consultants.  Where is
he going?  Keep an eye on the spin doctors.

Martin Gonzalez
From: 891666t@aucs.acadiau.ca (Trish Turliuk)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Quayle Fountain Head
Date: 5 Apr 92 15:50:11 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

Check out Quayle Quarterly the rottweiller (sp?) watchdog that never sleeps.            
Address can be found in the back of Utne-Reader. Old news?
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: M19249@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Quayle Quotes: some of these are real good
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:01:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.140551.8821@athena.mit.edu>
dks@athena.mit.edu (dks) writes:
 
>In article <Apr.6.15.38.28.1992.6137@gandalf.rutgers.edu>,
>shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan) writes:
>>This really isn't a flame, even though it may sound like one.
>>
>>I've been reading this group for about a month now and it seems like
>>the only thing that gets posted here about Dan Quayle is this list.
>>This list has been posted almost weekly (it seems), and I have seen
>>little else in the way of activity here.
>>
>>Did I miss out on this group when it was in its prime?
>
>Three comments:
>1. Don't knock the list: it repays careful study.
>2. Given the cosmic scale of Danforth's ineptitude, a month
>   is but the twinkling of an eye.
>3. If Danforth is no longer being trotted out for us to kick
>   around, well, ... be grateful for small mercies.
>Cheers,
>Dhanesh
 
Well said Dhanesh!  But, let me check, was the a.f.dq prime back when we had
every yahoo who's taken high school German give there endless opinions on the
"jelly doughnut" controversy?
Other questions:
1. Is any one willing to read and post a book report on MQ's new book.  I did
not see a response to the previous request.
2. How was DQ's first pitch?  Did he get it over the plate, unlike GHWB. (once,
Yale baseball team captain)  His grandson's pitch looked good, right over the
middle.  (Aside- Ain't that new Bal'mer ballpark grand?)
3. Once again, if anyone want's my lengthy synopsis of the Wash. Post's seven
part series on DQ just email me a request with your email address.  Has anyone
heard of the publication date of Woodward & Broder's DQ book?  Will it be in
time for the election, or has the date slipped?  I will do a book report when
it comes out if there is enough interest.
 
As far as this group's "obsession" with spelling, I don't buy it.  Usually the
flames have been when the posting party is in mid-flame and has just committed
a similar error to the error that they are flaming about. But, by the way the
proper spelling is "grammar" not "grammer".  ;)
 
Susan, what about the young Joe Kennedy thread?  I've been enlightened by our
readership on this issue.  Thanks for all who posted.  IMHO, 117 IQ is better
than I expect from most politicians.  However, his academic credentials seem
almost as impressive as ol' DQ's.
 
Can anyone out there confirm that DQ, like Slick Willy Clinton, has played golf
at whites only country club(s) while an elected official?  Also, can anyone
post Clinton's excuse.  As I remember it was something about being the only
club in the area.  Like golf is necessary for human survival. (If you flame
this last sentence, please provide some scientific proof rather than deep-felt
opinion.)
-DW
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Boos for Danny
From: koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis)
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:02:22 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


I heard that the White House staff were worried that if Georgie threw
out a ball on opening day he would be boo'd.  I read this before
opening day.  I guess they decided to dend Danny instead. We all
know he is Georgie's attack dog or was it pit bull he said about his
helping to fight Pat Buachanan's challenge.  Whatever he compared 
himself to we can all be sure it was dumb.
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan Hagan)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Quayle Quotes: some of these are real good
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:38:28 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

This really isn't a flame, even though it may sound like one.

I've been reading this group for about a month now and it seems like
the only thing that gets posted here about Dan Quayle is this list.
This list has been posted almost weekly (it seems), and I have seen
little else in the way of activity here.

Did I miss out on this group when it was in its prime?
From: M19249@mwvm.mitre.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: all those quotes
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:39:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: mwvm.167CBF83D.M19249
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102

In article <1992Apr16.192812.22485@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>
sdavis@laforge.ksc.nasa.gov (Steve Davis) writes:
 
>G.J.W. Hagenaars writes
>
>> Maybe it would be a good idea to give each quote a number (or something
>> with a date, you know what i mean...)
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>  The obvious flaw with that indexing scheme is that it assumes that the veep
>only makes one blunder on any given day... :-)
 
I kind of like the idea, actually.  But, the old joke about the convicts who
numbered all their favorite jokes comes to mind.
On some low volume day someone can just post:
" Number 35"
and we can all smile and feel superior about our "in" joke. ;)
-DW
"Standard disclaimer applies"
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: ab917@yfn.ysu.edu (Jerry Tomko)
Subject: Re: Could it be that twinkle in Danny boy's eye (was Re: golf trips)
Reply-To: ab917@yfn.ysu.edu (Joe Hopkins)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:40:48 GMT


In a previous article, Token Amerikan () says:


>
>I have spent days, months and years considering this very question. After all of that, I 
>have concluded that Georgie's motivation lies in that blue sparkle ofdanny boys eyes and 
>that slight swish of his perky bottom. Whaaddya think, ARE THEY BUTT-PIRATES? 
>

I resent the homophobic tone of this post.  We must learn to except
homosexuals, even if they occupy the White house, or Jerry Browns
rear end, or Clintons mouth.
From: bd344@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael N Bastedo)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Quayle Quarterly
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:45:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr16.224550.28665
Reply-To: bd344@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael N Bastedo)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)



Does anyone here subscribe to the Quayle Quarterly? Would the be willing
to give a synopsis of the best parts and post them to the net?

Thanks,

Mike
-- 
Michael N. Bastedo                       ! "If we do not succeed, we run the   
Internet: bd344@cleveland.freenet.edu    !  risk of failure"
          smb2866@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu  !                   -Dan Quayle 
Bitnet:   smb2866@oberlin                !