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Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Curve-Smoothing (was: Holiday Road Period)
From: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:44:59 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland
Keywords: bad driving!
Cc: jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz

In <C12zLL.7pI@animal.gcs.co.nz> joe@animal.gcs.co.nz (Joe Kuzak) writes:

>Porshe made an interesting investigation on accident frequency and found
>that more distance is travelled between prangs on German autobahns than
>on lesser class roads. This despite the fantastic speeds some family cars
>get up to these days.  This investigation was done to shut the greens up
>who wanted speed limits.

That's a totally bogus argument. Autobahns are safer because they have no
junctions etc, not because of the higher speed! They would be safer still
if speeds were kept reasonable.

Jeremy

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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: joe@animal.gcs.co.nz (Joe Kuzak)
Subject: Re: Curve-Smoothing (was: Holiday Road Period)
Organization: GCS Limited, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 03:12:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.094434.13372@waikato.ac.nz> ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:
>In article <C17oA6.Isq@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, Martin.Ehrenstein@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Martin Ehrenstein) writes:
>>
>> In article <1993Jan21.104459.5564@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>, jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons) writes:
>> |> In <C12zLL.7pI@animal.gcs.co.nz> joe@animal.gcs.co.nz (Joe Kuzak) writes:
>> |>
>> |> >Porshe made an interesting investigation on accident frequency and found
>> |> >that more distance is travelled between prangs on German autobahns than
>> |> >on lesser class roads. This despite the fantastic speeds some family cars
>> |> >get up to these days.  This investigation was done to shut the greens up
>> |> >who wanted speed limits.
>> |>
>> |> That's a totally bogus argument. Autobahns are safer because they have no
>> |> junctions etc, not because of the higher speed! They would be safer still
>> |> if speeds were kept reasonable.
>>
>> I disagree. It's not quite easy to argue with you because you put quite
>> a lot of stuff into two and a half lines of text.
>>
>> You appear to assume that speeds on the Autobahns are unreasonably high.
>> Do you say it is plainly unreasonable that the typical speed is higher
>> than in other contries? Or do you have some of the spectacular pile-ups
>> in mind involving vehicles traveling at say 80kph in fog? Or are you
>> concerned about say drivers from the "New Federal States of Germany",
>> or maybe Belgium having difficulties to judge relative speeds of following
>> vehicles in the rear vision mirror at first?
>
>I don't know about the original poster, but I would say that traffic speeds
>are too high if they don't give you enough time to react to unexpected
>situations which might occur. Like a tyre blowout--not on your car (naturally),
>but on the one in front of you. Or somebody switching lanes without indicating.
>Or a truck meandering across the median strip, right into your path.
>
Sure..when your travelling at 220 + kms/h your looking  way ahead, it keeps
you alert and awake. You adjust with the conditions and traffic.
Don't think for a moment that at high speeds, people switch on their cruise
controls and invite their partners closer for a bit of slap and tickle.
Fast cars are fitted with  appropriate tyres. ie A german car capable of
280 kms/h will not get TUV approval unless its on rubbers capable of handling
those speed.  Alot of money goes into tyre research and good tyres don't
just "blow out" . Tyres are not of concern if they are more than legal.

If we all thought like you, the shuttle would never get off the ground
because the O-rings in the solid booster might leak. 

Lets get extra safe...   we could make a killing on 5mm thick condoms!


Joe Kuzak
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: joe@animal.gcs.co.nz (Joe Kuzak)
Subject: Re: Curve-Smoothing (was: Holiday Road Period)
Organization: GCS Limited, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:58:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.101646.28368@datamark.co.nz> thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) writes:
>In article <C1C7AL.4F@animal.gcs.co.nz> joe@animal.gcs.co.nz (Joe Kuzak) writes:
>>Speed limits-------- Why? You may as well say that Porche BMW and MB put
>>speed limiters on their cars.....absolute crap. 
>
>Well, Mercedes Benz and BMW electronically limit their cars to a top
>speed of 250kmh.
>
>-- 
Yup...yep...true, an error on my part,  my reply mentioning speed limiters
on cars was with the thought of around the speed limit of the country.
A stupid idea to put a point across.  BMW put limiters on their engines
to keep the greens happy and MB do it because BMw do.

Joe Kuzak.

To I heard that BMW stands for Brake My Windows.
From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Organization: Equinox Networks (Public access), Node: Yonder
Subject: Re: Holiday Road Period
	<1993Jan13.195750.4012@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>
	<1993Jan26.191404.10902@alf.pec.co.nz>
	<1993Jan28.010252.14889@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>
Reply-To: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:40:54 +1200

In <1993Jan28.010252.14889@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>, Derek Tearne writes:

>The important thing when doing this is travelling at a speed which allows 
>you to safely get back into your lane if necessary.  This thread was started 
>as a discussion of people who only just managed to get back in lane with no 
>safety margin at all.
>This type of road does not really exist in New Zealand and as such is not 
>relevant to the discussion at hand.

Actually, I think I may have been the cause of that thread originally, but
 I missed reading some of the replies to that.... so it may have started
 seperatly.

What I had in mind was not as you put it above.  The way I look at it,
 turning a corner into a piece of straight road is better. I'm
 not talking about going so fast that you can't turn the full circle of
 the turn, i'm also not talking about going to the outside lane from the
 inside to get around the bend - this would only be of gain if you were
 speeding, i'm not talking about blind bends either. I'm talking about 
 cutting corners in situations like when you're going downhill on a windy
 outback road and can see for miles, no houses, no other traffic, no people..
 nothing but the road and the countryside beside it.... it saves throwing you
 and your passengers around the car so much, if there's less centrifugal force
 on you, you're more in control. It probably also results in less wear
 and tear on the car.  Anyone who does it when there's other traffic/humans/
 houses, or on blind bends is a dammed fool.

BTW:As far as I know you are right though, it is illegal here.

 Craig.

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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: tonyb@alf.pec.co.nz (Tony Bray)
Subject: Re: End-of-Week Plot Summary
Organization: Production Engineering (NZ) Ltd.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:59:45 GMT

In article <3uNPXB1w165w@suction.acme.gen.nz> scimitar@suction.acme.gen.nz (Robert Singers) writes:
>rhys@unisys.co.nz (Rhys Hermansson) writes:
>> I totally disagree. After spending the last 15 years in Palm Nth, I 
>> recently (3 years) shifted to Wellington for employment.  Palmerston offers
>> similar extra-curricular (sp?) to Wellington AS LONG AS YOU GET YOURSELF
>> INVOLVED IN THINGS.  If perhaps you spend all your time talking to friends
>> about getting out of Palmerston then perhaps you should either: 	
                       <whole lots deleted>

Just thought I'd put my two pence worth in (yes, I am a pom, so I'm
allowed pence ;-| ).
I have lived & worked:
    Palm North 4 yrs
    Wellington 4 yrs
    Palm North 6 yrs
    worked in NaeNae, lived in Wellington  3 yrs
   Now work in Marton, live in Palmerston North.
One is made to feel that there is more do in Palmerston, because the
people of Palmerston take an interest in other people and encourage
them to "join in". Have you been invited to play hockey for the over
50s yet?
By preference I would live in Palmerston North, what the hell has the
weather got to do with it? If you let the weather dictate your life it
won't be very interesting at all.
Hey, that's nearly 6 pence :-)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Surplus Micom and Datacraft gear for sale
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:49:35 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

Richard.Darton@vuw.ac.nz (Richard Darton) writes:

> Hi,
> I have the following old Micom and Datacraft gear that I want to dispose of. 
> Any interest should be brought to my attention by Friday 5 February.
 
 Richard,
 
 I would be interested in two of Micom PSU unites. Please supply me
 with collection details etc...
 
 regards,
> 
>      5) Micom PSU units                     - 5 off


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Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Driving speeds (was: Curve-Smoothing (was: Holiday Road Period))
From: Bruce@hoult.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:52:31 +1300 (NZDT)

Lawrence D'Oliveiro writes:
>I don't know about the original poster, but I would say that traffic speeds
>are too high if they don't give you enough time to react to unexpected
>situations which might occur. Like a tyre blowout--not on your car (naturally),
>but on the one in front of you. Or somebody switching lanes without indicating.
>Or a truck meandering across the median strip, right into your path.

I agree 100%.

Do you also believe the converse: that if you've got time to react safely to
unexpected situations then by definition you're not travelling too fast?
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Subject: Re: Curve-Smoothing (was: Holiday Road Period)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 07:08:19 GMT
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand
Reply-To: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)

ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University) writes:

> I don't know about the original poster, but I would say that traffic speeds
> are too high if they don't give you enough time to react to unexpected
> situations which might occur. Like a tyre blowout--not on your car (naturally),
> but on the one in front of you. Or somebody switching lanes without indicating.
> Or a truck meandering across the median strip, right into your path.

So you'd advocate a daytime speed limit here in NZ of around 60km/h and a
nighttime limit of under 40?

						- k
-- 
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"Jub'er lbh pnyyvat n obmb?"
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: I like this .sig
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 17:32:29 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

 One of my uucp sites here in Auckland sent me some email today
 with this signature. I do not know about you chaps but it took
 my fancy well and truly.
 
 -------------------------//snipped from root@iuucp.status.gen.nz//->
 
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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: Martin.Ehrenstein@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Martin Ehrenstein)
Subject: Re: Curve-Smoothing (was: Holiday Road Period)
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 05:45:40 GMT


In article <C1C7AL.4F@animal.gcs.co.nz>, joe@animal.gcs.co.nz (Joe Kuzak) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan20.093406.13304@waikato.ac.nz> bill@waikato.ac.nz writes:
|> >
|> [lots of stuff deleted]
|> >
|> >And I've driven on the autobahns, and they definitely do need a speed limit!
|> 
|> Speed limits-------- Why? You may as well say that Porche BMW and MB put
|> speed limiters on their cars.....absolute crap. 
|> 
|> Joe Kuzak

I'm not sure if I understand you, but in fact BMW put a speed-limiter in the
engine control 'computer', which most coincidentally turns any member of
their 750i rage into

|> [in another article ...] A german car capable of 280 kms/h [...]

Your subconciousness knew it all along? :)

Martin E

BTW what are the minimum tyre thread requirements, and can anyone recommend
a place to buy tyres (Wellington preferentially, as I don't want to drive
to Auckland close to the _legal_ limit)?
-- 
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> > > > > > >  insert   your   favourite   disclaimer   here  < < < < < < <
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: newznet@comp.vuw.ac.nz (NewZnet Support Group)
Subject: New site added to the DNS
Return-Path: <root>
X-Mailer: mail-news 4.1
Organization: Gatewayed from Mail to News at VUW, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:26:02 GMT

The following organization is being added to the DNS and will be
accessible for email from other connected sites in NZ and elsewhere:

	Abstract BBS, Auckland

The domain name will be:

	abstract.gen.nz

If you have problems contacting users at this site, please contact:

	<postmaster@abstract.gen.nz>
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: I like this .sig
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 18:09:43 GMT
Organization: The CServer at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway

gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington) writes:

> In article <Geoff.82rs@equinox.gen.nz> Geoff@equinox.gen.nz (Geoff Mccaughan)
> 
> > Hah! I bet Andy Linton doesn't like it... 8-)
> 
> See, Andy was right.  Once the fear of Linton is put up them, they
> become self-policing.  Now all we have to do is find some way to make
> them self-educating :)
> 
> Nat
> (this entire post is smiley-writed, for the humour-impaired)

 
 /impaired off
 
 Now that we have what, got Linton disease the fear of Auckland ?
 Self education .. hmmm Write I love Auckland 10,000,000 times
 by hand.
 
 /smiley faces 


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From: ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz (Peter Ingham)
Subject: Re: TV Cricket
Newsgroups: nz.general
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:43:24 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP Site

engf002@csc.canterbury.ac.nz wrote:
> Someone said, re stump vision:
> >>> >I understand that the "expensive and sensitive electronic
> >>> >equipment" is in a box underground and that the stump just has a
> >>> >mirror device in it.

> I thought they had this arrangement :
>              +------+
>              ||     |
>              || UHF aerial
>              ||     |
>              ||     | <---- hollowed out stump
>              |      |
>              |----- |
>              |    / ]                       }
>   Mirror (prism)/   ] "Window"              }
>              |/     ]                       }All heavily shock-resisted
>              | ---- |  lenses and optics    }
>              | ---- |                       }
>              | ==== |  subminature CCD      }
>              | |__| |    & high-speed shutter mechanism
>              |  |_  |                       }
>              | | _| |  UHF transmitter      }
>              |  |   |
>              |  |   |
>              |  Wires down to 12v power supply (underground)
>              |      |
> Andrew Earl
> -- Many pages make thick book. Except for pocket bibles which are printed
>    on very thin paper. --

No Stump Cameras in NZ use UHF transmission.
All video is carried out on coax.

Shutter is electronic.

12V power supply is as you say held underground.

Shock resistance consists of cardboard / tape to stop it flopping about inside 
the hollow stump.




--

Cheers

    Peter S. Ingham              ping@ping.actrix.gen.nz
    Lower Hutt,  New Zealand     3:771/220.5
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Subject: Re: I like this .sig
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:23:05 GMT

In article <Geoff.82rs@equinox.gen.nz> Geoff@equinox.gen.nz (Geoff Mccaughan) writes:

> Hah! I bet Andy Linton doesn't like it... 8-)

See, Andy was right.  Once the fear of Linton is put up them, they
become self-policing.  Now all we have to do is find some way to make
them self-educating :)

Nat
(this entire post is smiley-writed, for the humour-impaired)
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: ldo@waikato.ac.nz (Lawrence D'Oliveiro, Waikato University)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Curve-Smoothing (was: Holiday Road Period)
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:44:34 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <C17oA6.Isq@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, Martin.Ehrenstein@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Martin Ehrenstein) writes:
>
> In article <1993Jan21.104459.5564@cs.aukuni.ac.nz>, jeremy@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Jeremy Gibbons) writes:
> |> In <C12zLL.7pI@animal.gcs.co.nz> joe@animal.gcs.co.nz (Joe Kuzak) writes:
> |>
> |> >Porshe made an interesting investigation on accident frequency and found
> |> >that more distance is travelled between prangs on German autobahns than
> |> >on lesser class roads. This despite the fantastic speeds some family cars
> |> >get up to these days.  This investigation was done to shut the greens up
> |> >who wanted speed limits.
> |>
> |> That's a totally bogus argument. Autobahns are safer because they have no
> |> junctions etc, not because of the higher speed! They would be safer still
> |> if speeds were kept reasonable.
>
> I disagree. It's not quite easy to argue with you because you put quite
> a lot of stuff into two and a half lines of text.
>
> You appear to assume that speeds on the Autobahns are unreasonably high.
> Do you say it is plainly unreasonable that the typical speed is higher
> than in other contries? Or do you have some of the spectacular pile-ups
> in mind involving vehicles traveling at say 80kph in fog? Or are you
> concerned about say drivers from the "New Federal States of Germany",
> or maybe Belgium having difficulties to judge relative speeds of following
> vehicles in the rear vision mirror at first?

I don't know about the original poster, but I would say that traffic speeds
are too high if they don't give you enough time to react to unexpected
situations which might occur. Like a tyre blowout--not on your car (naturally),
but on the one in front of you. Or somebody switching lanes without indicating.
Or a truck meandering across the median strip, right into your path.

> What I miss most from the good old days when I just had my license and there
> was no limit, is the 'principle of least inconvenience', regardless whether
> that means pulling into the slow lane behind a truck when traveling at 130kph
> to let past the Porsche (vith headlights on and continuously indicating),
> or stopping to let somebody safely reverse into a tricky parking spot.

What's to stop you from doing this sort of thing today?

Lawrence "Better to be a live wimp than a dead you-know-what" D'Oliveiro
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Email address for Met service
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:52:50 GMT
Organization: The Cserver at the Z*NET International Global News Gateway
Keywords: Met service

R.A.Rayner@massey.ac.nz (R.A. Rayner) writes:

> Someone here would like to contact the Meteorological Service by
> email . Does anyone have an email address for them ??
> 
> Thanks
 
 There is an un-official site here in auckland. Try 
root@bobmac.status.gen.nz . Bob is the chap you saw at the Americas Cup
and at the Olympics.  He also runs MET in AKL.


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From: Tony.Martindale@vuw.ac.nz (Tony Martindale)
Subject: Email penpal request
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Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 00:14:36 GMT


  Would anyone like to respond to Vincent?

    Date: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 17:46:59 -0500 (EST)
    From: 5FACCHINI_V@spcvxa.spc.edu
    Subject: E-MAIL
    To: POSTMASTER@VUW.AC.NZ
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    DEAR POSTMASTER:
    CAN YOU PLEASE DISTRIBUTE MY E-MAIL ADDRESS 5FACCHINI_V@SPCVXA.SPC.EDU
    TO SOME OF YOUR STUDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN EXCHANGING MAIL WITH
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    VINCENT J. FACCHINI


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From: srgxnbs@grace.cri.nz
Newsgroups: nz.rec
Subject: windsurf gear wanted
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:39:46 GMT
Organization: Industrial Research Ltd., New Zealand.
NNTP-Posting-Host: grv.grace.cri.nz

wanted: windsurf race/slalom sails 6.5m to 4.5m in good condition
boom to suit, high wind slalom board 8'10" to 9'0", H3 style pointer
fin (std fin box base), 2 piece race mast
any of above, contact me
thanks
Bruce
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From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Subject: Re: Architect information
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:03:06 GMT

jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:

> Can someone point me to a list of existing Architects and firms in NZL

The yellow pages.

Nat
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