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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:59:34 EDT
From:         EL406041@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Subject:      Re: Ross
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Posted on 9 Oct 1992 at 05:16:04 by (Bayla Singer)
>Can you repeat after me, "Do what I say, not what I do"?  Last I heard,
>Perot's philanthropy ran to right-wing militaristic causes.  You think
>-Perot- is going to give you "kinder, gentler"?

No. I saw something on TV last night (I think it might have been ABC news)
on Perot firing employees who actually needed their health insurance.  This
concentration on the bottom line w/out regard to anything else is a disease
of American business that is now spreading to the academy.  I deplore it.

Karen
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Greetings,

Not to worry, Rita.  I sent a reply to that list on purpose.

Marty
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:49:00 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Depression
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> Posted on 9 Oct 1992 at 18:18:05 by Doris Smith
> >> Yesterday was National Depression Screening Day.
> >A day late and a penny short.
>
> But I didn't even hear about it till this AM!
>
> Karen

Karen, I meant *I* was a day late and a penny short, not you, dear.  Sorry
for leaving out the subject and verb.  I do know better. :-)
Doris
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:43:00 MST
From:         "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS"
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Subject: Re: WHTMINJ 5

>the G.  I never use it <professionally>, believing as I do that
>the use of anything other than first name/last name is tasteless
>and indicative of low self-esteem.

>--ggs

Oh, REALLY?  Well, thank you VERY much, Mister SMITH, and the horse
you rode in on!  Just for that I'm not a-gonna tell you about MMDWTBW!
(My Mexican Dinner With Two Beautiful Women)  Eat yer graceless heart out!

John Mark By God Williams
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:32:00 EST
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Greetings,

Practical?!??!  Why be practical?

Marty
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:52:31 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: All aboard AUStrak (was gas tax)
              10 Oct 1992 14:49:00 EST from <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>

>	Steve knows, but fails to mention, that the Cardinal (Pittsburgh to
>	Washington) has been re-established.  Louisville, alas, remains devoid
>	of passenger trains.

    Neal, don't you mean The Capitol Limited ?  The Cardinal is Chicago-->
    Indianapolis-->Cincinnati-->Washington.

    Don't despair of Louisville rejoining the matrix.  There has been
    talk in the press of a new Chicago-->Florida route through Kentucky.
    I have my fingers crossed.

    brad
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:13:42 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: interest rates
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              92 1:02 pm

>     would YOU lend YOUR money at 9% to someone who might ormight not
> graduate and might or might not get a real job  (gee, think of all those
> english majors driving cabs, right?) and might or might not be itnerested
> in paying back the money?

	Don't mind me:  I'm just bitter because the one they gave me
didn't cover diddly shit, and the bank completely mishandled it.

	And btw, your description of the English grad hardly
describes *anyone* I graduated with.

Rita
University of Lowell, '91
B.A. English
From: WILLIAMS%MC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS)
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Subject: Re: Reality vs. Rhetoric
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:48:08 GMT
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(More like Reality Check...)
QUAYLE:  "...your Global Marshall Plan would cost $100 billion dollars!"
GORE:    "I never said that!"
QUAYLE:  "Yes you did, on page 304 of your book!"
A-hem.
        "Charles Maier points out that the annual U.S. expenditures for
the Marshall Plan between 1948 and 1951 were close to 2 percent of our GNP.
A similar percentage today would be almost $100 billion a year."

                                Gore, Albert, "Earth In The Balance",
                                Houghton Mifflin, New York, 1992, p. 304.

JMW
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:17:28 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Webster's online
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Why does list mail tonight remind me of conversations in Eudora Welty's
short stories?  Ok, will now remove the ../h/ part from webster.c.  This
is fun.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:56:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: All aboard AUStrak (was gas tax)

	Steve knows, but fails to mention, that the Cardinal (Pittsburgh to
	Washington) has been re-established.  Louisville, alas, remains devoid
	of passenger trains.

Actually, it is the Capitol Limited between Pittsburgh and Washington that has
been re-established.  There was service between Pittsburgh and Washington
by way of Philadelphia and Harrisburg between 1971 and 1982; but that
route truly captures the meaning of "going the long way around the barn."

Steve Karlson

Pardon me, boy, is that the Pennsylvania Station?
From: ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU (Dan Lester)
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Date: 16 Oct 92 21:45:24 GMT
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              16 Oct 1992 03:33:20 GMT from <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>

On Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:33:20 GMT Ruth M. Hanschka said:
>I kinda like the image, personally.  Joan was a queen bitch, and if you
>messed with her, well you *were* warned.(-8  Of course, for a more likable
>role model, there's always Sigourney Weaver.  Maybe.(;

Hmmmmm....don't think Mama Alien and her family would agree with that....

dan
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Subject: Re: Scary but True [tm] 10/13/92
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:12:00 GMT
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Original-From: mhwpa!ktw (Kenneth T Wolman +1 201 564 2866)

>	Doctors have perfected a technique that will allow them to
>suck fat from the buttocks or thighs of a man and inject it into
>the penis, to make the organ larger....

>The men's movement must be working!  Congratulations
>on your progress Mr. Bly.

Grown big enough, I s'pose it could be a wicked stick to use
to beat your tom-tom....

Ken
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:48:00 EDT
From:         gilbert smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: There *is* a god . . .
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> >>All I can say to this is:
> >>  There *is* a god.... there *is* a god....
> >>--ggs
>
> Premature, ggs: when *will* you learn to think things through?  Just
> imagine using <him> as the centerpiece for a demonstration of <sacrifice>
> to the <aztec gods>.  Obsidian, anyone?
>
> --bayla  (225 to go... pardon me if you've seen this from someone else)

Is it my empty <dense card> again, or am I correct that I did not
<make myself clear> about the meaning of "There *is* a god"?
I heard this expression for the first time, actually, in Providence,
RI, in the Jewish neighborhood which to me was like a foreign country,
being as I was a Central West Texan Southerner.  Does anybody know
what this means and why I said it in response to <Country>'s (or
somebody's) revealing that he had been accepted by NCSU?
--ggs (almost always misunderstood...  an enigma, that's what he
       is, an <enigma variation>....)
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:05:54 EST
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      The VP Debates.
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Dan Quayle is an unmitigated ass.  He should lighten up, inhale!

Karen
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 16 Oct 92 01:03:05 GMT
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Though this may come as a surprise to some, I have no interest in mr (I 
presume it's mr:  I sure as hell hope no *woman* is this thick!) rogers' 
bank account nor in his <decorations>.  The thing that amuses -me- is
that he has not understood the really fundamental principle that 
intelligent people can disagree with each other!  He cannot accept the
notion that those who do not hold -his- opinions can be either maturre
(his first incorrect assumption) or worldly (his second).  

I find it incredibly laughable that he imagines nobody could be a 
liberal without also being "knee-jerk," and that learning to think for
oneself equals becoming a conservative.  Even *I* know better!


Gotta go: the circus (aka the debate) just came on the tube.

--bayla
From: ST403231@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Frank)
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Date: 16 Oct 92 15:41:31 GMT
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OK, Neal.  I'll pretend.  Actually, it was your real (or let's say
*other*) b-day that almost dragged me out of my e-isolation a few
weeks ago.  HAPPY BIRTHDAY.  Live many more healthy years enjoying
the love and respect of everyone you know.  And may life's annoying
little picadillos be ever swept from your path.  Or at least for as
long as you need them to be.

Remember me, folx?  I'm the one at the Clambake who was wearing the
hooded Brown sweatshirt (over my Words-L t-shirt) who was subsequently
immortalized by abh in a gif that made me look as though I hadn't
slept in weeks.  I'm still at Brown, just horrendously busy.  My sing-
ing group is giving its first major concert of the year in just over
a week, and we are recording an album over Thanksgiving Break.  And I
have this little project of a dissertation to keep me off the streets
in my spare time.  So don't presume I don't love you just because
I don't post.  I've even kept up with reading all your postings,
at least up till now.

So you all be nice to each other, hear?  Bayla is one of my favorite
(virtual) people in the world, so listen to her and do what she says.
Abh is turning out Pulitzer-quality writing, so don't forget to let
her know how much you like it.  Karen isn't feeling well, so give her
your wishes for a speedy recovery.  And above all, be nice to Neal,
cuz it's his (un-) birthday, and he's ann mandi's friend and talks
knowledgeably and reasonably about baseball and many other things
and besides, he lives in Pittsburgh.  (There is no joy in Muddville...)

Over and out.  Till later.

Frank
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:33:29 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 99 and 44/100 percent pure
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> >Gosh, Natalie, frugal cheeseheads like me learned long ago to affix
> >the thin bit of soap to the new bar, thereby ultimately using up the
> >bar.  Why, by my reckoning, I've been using bits of the same bar of
>
> >Waste not, want not.
> Damned right!  I wouldn't be a rich widow now if I hadn't
> bought all those dented cans...

<sigh>  At least I'm living in dignified poverty, pulling brand new bars
of soap out of packages and enjoying them untainted by old soap pieces.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:42:28 EDT
From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Yeaaaah!!
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              Schrier" at Oct 8, 92 5:29 pm

> love, judith, who doesn't, either

Judith's back!!  Great to see you on words-l again ... missed you a lot.

love,
rashmi
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:56:16 CDT
From:         "guinan::kummer"@KIRK.MSOE.EDU
Subject:      RE: Chaos in Composition
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>The 3rd-quarter issue of the Computer Music Journal has an interesting article
>"Chaotic Systems as Simple (but Complex) Compositional Algorithms". This
>article gives a good overview of methods for using both iterated maps and
>continuous-flow simulations to provide raw material for compositions.
>A number of clearly-written and well-commented C programs are included,
>alog with graphical "scores" of sample outputs. The Henon attractor, the
>standard map, the Lorenz butterfly, and the Henon-Heiles gravitational
>field simulation are all given as examples, along with ideas on mapping two-,
>three-, and four-dimensional chaotic systems into music.

I hear many good things coming from the Computer Music Journal; can someone tell
me where I might subscribe to it and how much it costs?

Thanks.

Phantom Tryke
kummer@kirk.msoe.edu

--I apologize for the carbon copy, I messed up my return address and didn't want
any confusion.
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From:         Dana Nibby <D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      Original EPS specs
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   Can anyone tell me what the specs are on the original Ensoniq EPS sampling
keyboard?  (not the 16+) It has an 8 track sequencer, yes? What about
voices/polyphony?

  - Does it have an effects processor and if so, how many bits, how many
effects can you do simultaneously, and what kind of effects can it produce?
  - How much memory does it come with stock? I guess the easiest way to answer
would be... What's the maximum time you can sample for at 44 khz? How much
memory does the expander add? (in seconds) Can the expanders still be found?
Should I not bother buying an EPS if it doesn't come with the expander?
- Is the EPS quirky? Should I be looking out for a certain operating system?
What should I  be looking for when buying one used?

  The EPS seems to be the best unit for the price for my purposes. I already
have a drum machine w/16-bit sound, and for producing techno, it seems that
having a high-quality drum sound is more important than anything else.
The EPS is 13-bit sound, right? From what I've read, the human ear isn't
capable of discerning much after 14-bits.. esp. when it's under a continuous
drum beat. Hell, I've produced ok sounding demos internally on my amiga
using only 8-bit sound pumped through a tascam mixing board. I'm not concerned
with what people with $2,000-$3,000 stereo systems hear, if that's what the
great debate is mainly concerned with... or people with super-sonic/trained
hearing.

    Err.. I know this should have been posted to the EPS list, but I don't
know its address. Could someone give me the address please?

  Thanks,

    Dana
From: cassiel@CASSIEL.DEMON.CO.UK (Nick Rothwell)
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Date: 13 Oct 92 21:38:12 GMT
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>  From what VFX-SD owners have told me (and I know it's not in production
>anymore) the VFX-SDI + VFX-SDII are very reliable.

I'm not sure I'd use the word "very." They're probably OK hardware-wise but
the sequencing software onboard is famous for being flakey and I wouldn't
trust one to be bug free.

Nick.
From: D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana Nibby)
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Date: 15 Oct 92 14:20:22 GMT
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Ok, here's my last synth recommendation request for awhile.
(Won't we all be a lot happier when I find the right synth
for me and my price range?)

  Here's what I need:

    * multi-timbral
    * 8 track sequencer
    * don't need velocity sensitive keyboard (hell, I'd disable
      it if I had a keyboard w/that feature) or any other fancy
      keyboard sensitivity. Although a joystick would be a big
      plus.

    * don't need piano sounds or orchestral sounds
    * 8-bit sound is ok I suppose, but I'm worried about the
      low decibel output. 16-bit would help.
    * would help if it accepted waveform cards. what is the
      least expensive synth(s) that accept waveform cards?

    * Price should be in $400-600 range used.

        I'll primarily be using the synth for techno/industrial
   dance music. It would help if the synth produced something
   similar to analog sounds. I'm not a purist, and even if they
   remotely resemble analog, that should be fine. As I've said
   before, I have a 16-bit drum machine to take care of
   percussion, and will use samples from my Amiga.


  Dana
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:21:00 EDT
From:         wbf@ALUX2.ATT.COM

Subject: Re: Eric Harnden's Text Recommendation

> authored by jeff pressing, about whom i know nothing.

If I remember correctly, Jeff is the top (US) Roland Product Specialist.
He was the producer and main composer of their CD, "Roland: A Sound
Approach."

Bill Fox
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:35:00 EDT
From:         wbf@ALUX2.ATT.COM

Subject:      Regarding Henry's Tape Hiss Question

Hi Henry,

	Tape hiss is called hiss because the human ear resonpds best to
tape noise above 1kHz which sounds like an animal hissing.  But the noise
is actually broader band than that.  It is masked by the signal below
the hiss range.

Bill
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From:         "(Adam Schabtach)" <schabtac@STOUT.ATD.UCAR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Chaos in Composition
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>I heartily recommend this article to anyone who's interested in adding
>chaotic processes to their compositional toolbox.

Thanks for bringing this up, Joe. This is a topic I've wanted to find
out more about for awhile. It's time for me to scurry off to the
university library...

Once I see the source code, I'll create some MAX objects to explore
these systems. Would anyone else be interested in these objects,
once I get them written?

--Adam
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:16:20 MDT
From:         "(Adam Schabtach)" <schabtac@STOUT.ATD.UCAR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 8-bit Ratners
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>This is not necessarily a bad thing. 8-bit Grunge is good in places. Listen
>to the PPG.

Or the Fairlight Series II. Or the Emax.

>>let's face it - 8-bit is crap
>
>Well, it works for me.

And Tangerine Dream, Peter Gabriel, Kate Bush, Thomas Dolby, etc. etc...
I.e. just about anyone who used the early Fairlights, samplers, and
digital/analog hybrid synthesizers.

--Adam
From: eirikur@RANGER.ENET.DEC.COM (Eirmkur Hallgrmmsson 15-Oct-1992 1203)
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Subject: RE: synths...
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:00:46 GMT
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What I think you are describing, Dana, is a used Ensoniq ESQ-1.  Many people
like the built-in sequencer a lot.

	Eirikur
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From:         exit03 UNDEFINED <PAPEL@SDNET.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: midi file formats

I need help with using the sequencer on our Ensoniq SQ1 synthesizer.  Anyone kn
ow how to set it up to record and playback?  Please help.  Thanks.
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From:         Andrea TONI <andrea@SIHP03.SI.ESTEC.ESA.NL>
Subject: Re: Idependent Music Release List
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> Howdy,
> I've been compiling a list of independent music releses and labels, and
> similar stuff in the publication's area.  I wanted to find out if there
> is enough interest among the list users for me to post it.
>
> If you're interested please reply to the list.  If only a couple people
> respond I can send it to you individually.

Yes I'm very interested and I would like also to help (if there is a need)
with my "small" knowledge !

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From:         The Radio Gnome <V2002A@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
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              14 Oct 1992 07:46:50 EDT from <yuen@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>

Hi,

     I'm definitely interested.  Readers of Gibraltar digest, Tadream and
EmDreams might be interested as well.


                             Andy Wing
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From:         "(M.J. Kociscin)" <mjk7911@ULTB.ISC.RIT.EDU>
Subject:      MIDI ftp sites other than...

Hi all,

Are there any other FTP sites with MIDI-related files other than:
        ucsd.edu
 louie.udel.edu

I'm looking for sequences (MIDI files, especially) and SoundBlaster files in
particular, but any MIDI-related files will do.

Thanks!

Mark Kociscin
      (ko-sis-in)
mjk7911@ultb.isc.rit.edu
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