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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (SCOTT C LOCKLIN)
Subject: Re: Subject?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:32:15 GMT
X-Posted-From: titan.ucc.umass.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug22.033731.11004@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>In article <FeosPB2w176w@west.darkside.com>, safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin) writes:
>>Jesus Saves

Why is sci.physics in this thread? Perhaps due to me using this science to
demolish Mr (and Mrs.) Colvin's arguments in the alt.satanism newsgroup. I
suppose anything that serves to destroy one's faith in Jeeezus is considered
to be an evil influence on today's youth (and etc.). You missed 
rec.music.thrash, rec.music.industrial,alt.cyberpunk etc...

Any E-BOMBS can (definately) be adressed to 70253.2621@CompuServ.COM

I have spoken with Mr (and presumably Mrs) Colvin at this adress. Also, I for
one am convinced that it was indeed Mr Colvin who posted this as he posted
something similar a week ago.

Mr Colvin, I suggest EMACS if you want true anonymity, but since you are 
running a CompuServe account, I doubt you have access to such a thing

-Scott


Newsgroups: alt.satanism,alt.atheism,soc.motss,sci.physics,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.newage,alt.pagan,alt.sex,talk.religion.misc
From: bpaquet@nyx.cs.du.edu (Brian paquet)
Subject: Re: Subject?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 06:10:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.081021.11695@admiral.uucp> dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman) writes:
>In article <FeosPB2w176w@west.darkside.com> safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin) writes:
>>Jesus Saves
>
But kordic smashes into him, brusing body check, the gloves come off,
Ohhh Kordic is pounding into him....

John Kordic   
RIP
>


Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: find lives
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:20:10 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville
Followup-To: alt.satanism

In article <j1moody-010992225338@lafmac15.lafortune.lab.nd.edu>, j1moody@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Humpty Dumpty) writes:
> Satanism is the result of insecurity.

Any religion followed without informed thought is the result of insecurity.
 
> Most "devil-worshipers" are teenage, middle class kids going through the
> trials of puberty,

I was a godless atheist in my teenage years. It wasn't till I was 20 that I was
saved by Satan. Ave Satanas! Ave, domine noctis!

On the serious side, I believe a majority of this newsgroup's readers,
particularly the Satanists, are in their 20s.

> not finding any answers in the mediocre world around
> them
> so they lash out in rebellion. 
> Puberty will pass. But the scars you inflict during puberty will not. 
>
> There are better ways of rebelling than conforming to a blind state
> of adrenaline-seeking escapism.

Agreed. Where we disagree is whether or not the statement applies to this
newsgroup. Many people here have carefully considered their religious choices,
and are far better informed than most members of this society. They have chosen
a path that is not "blind," not "conforming" (in fact, Satanism encourages true
individuality, as it questions all status quo), and not "escapism." 

> Can any of you folks think of a better form of asserting one's 
> identity than hiding behind pentagrams?

Gee, a pentagram large enough to hide behind...:-)

Methinks you are not familiar with the types of Satanism practiced in this
area. It's a matter of genuine conviction, rather than "hiding." In fact, I
am aware that some Satanists do *not* hide behind a pentagram; they are afraid
of repercussions if they went public, such as loss of job, assaults by
"peace-loving" xians...they are really concerned for their lives. I know that I
am taking a risk. Do you believe that we would do this for a fling?
 
> I've been through the Satanism kick. It was a bum trip in retrospect.

I am sorry that you had such a bad experience. I know that some youths do go
through a "Satanism phase" which is based in very little part on fact, and in
very large part on movies, heavy metal, and fantasies. Please do not confuse
your experiences with those of us who find Satanism to be a serious, mature,
intellectual and more true way of life.

--Semhaza
Xref: sparky alt.satanism:1902 alt.atheism:16089 soc.motss:37330 sci.physics:13733 alt.religion.emacs:374 talk.religion.newage:4124 alt.pagan:8458 alt.sex:27832 talk.religion.misc:15119
From: mwsn_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matthew Weasner)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism,alt.atheism,soc.motss,sci.physics,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.newage,alt.pagan,alt.sex,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Subject?
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:49:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <25660@dog.ee.lbl.gov> sichase@csa3.lbl.gov writes:
>In article <34544@cbmvax.commodore.com>, kominetz@cbmvax.commodore.com (John Kominetz - CATS) writes...
>>Bush spends.
>>-- 
>>                                      __
>>        John Kominetz, III            \/          Aikido Ki No Kawa
>>  Commodore Apps and Tech Support           "I speak for myself, not C=."
>> ========================================================================
>>  "The higher you fly, the faster you fall."          -- Laurie Anderson
>
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>That's not true.  You have a defective .sig.
>
>-Scott
actually, in a way, I think it is true. You accelerate at the same rate. 
(9.8 m/s ?) So if you are higher, you get more time to accelerate. Therefore,
you are going faster when you hit the ground and go <SPLAT!>. Elementary, my
dear Scott. What does Aikido Ki No Kawa mean anyway?

my 2 measly cents.
matt
Newsgroups: alt.satanism,alt.atheism,soc.motss,sci.physics,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.newage,alt.pagan,alt.sex,talk.religion.misc
From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Subject?
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:10:21 GMT

In article <FeosPB2w176w@west.darkside.com> safecrac@west.darkside.com (Chris Colvin) writes:
>Jesus Saves

...and passes to Gretzky! Gretzky turns... shoots... scores! 


-- 
"Dammit Jim, I'm a free man, not a number!"
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"Ray, when somebody asks you if you're a god, you say YES!" -- Winston Zeddmore
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Xians/Re: velocity
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 03:04:56 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Sep3.172601.20237@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu) writes:
> Also, in response to all the stuff about Xtians: what is an Xtian? The only
> Xtians I know are a race of sibilant humanoids in a book by Ann Maxwell. I
> would be very interested in anything you guys could tell me about Xtians.
> Io Pan!
> 					Jess(brand new to this newsgroup)

Xians are an evil group of beings who must be destroyed. The crimes they have
commited throughout history are without number, because nobody can bear to
count them. They will insult you, oppress you, take your money, invade your
privacy, assault you, ruin your life, and even kill you, all in the names of
some mythical beings they refer to as "God" and "Jesus" (they are actually the
same person--it's very confusing and nobody has yet been able to explain it
adequately). They can be found in churches, revival meetings, and in the
Republican Party, and they are easily recognized by their inverted jewelry,
worn thus:      ____
               [    ]
           ____[    ]____
          [              ]
          [____      ____]
               [    ]
               [    ]
               [    ]
               [____]

Clearly they are mentally impaired, being unable even to tell which way is up!
Further evidence of their mental state is their reference book, known as _The
Bible_. Xians will attempt to use this dull, poorly written work of fiction in
attempts to recruit you to their evil cause. Xian interest in this book is
understandable, as it contains many passages of mindless violence inflicted by
their "God" upon undeserving innocents, as well as many incidents of sex (Xians
are fascinated with sex, as they are unable to practice it themselves). Don't
be fooled! This book contains nothing of real value, and will only waste your
time.

--Semhaza (The Antichrist)
From: dart@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan the Witchling)
Newsgroups: alt.satanism
Subject: Re: Bible or Not?
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:24:53 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

>I agree with the first part, but WHOA on the second... Islam? Open minded?
>I think this was true historically; muslims were tolerant of people of other
>religious denominations living within the borders of Islamic nations, but today
>we see the very opposite. Does anyone remember Lebanon? Iran etc? 
>Seems to me the rise of fundamentalist islam is responsible for much suffering
>in the world. Open minded? In Saudi Arabia they don't allow women to DRIVE! 
>It may be true that Muslims in the developed nations are not as obnoxious as
>Xtians, but this is probobly because xtians are entrenched in the power 
>structure wheras muslims are in no position to impose their views on others.
>BTW- some of the kurds, who are persecuted by muslims in both Turkey and Iraq
>are decendants of the original Yedzis who are considered to be the first 
>"Satanists"
	
	Um, a few points:
	1) the crusades aren't over, they are just political now.
	2) Shiites are bad fuckers.  Most moslems aren't shiites.
	3) Iran is run by shiites, mostly.
	4) Goddam Insane Doesn't care about his supposed religion (islam)
any farther than it takes to make him more popular and grant him power, much
like out own current president.
	5) I didn't say moslems were opan minded- it was a slur on christians.

>
>I dunno any muslims or jews who would do this either. I do know some gnostics
>pagans & satanic types who would.... Hmmmm...

	And some universalist Unitarians, Mohammed and Jesus probably did at
some point (no Daley Plaza, but somewhere) John the baptist dresses in animal
skins and ate locosts and honey (get more shamanic than that) and lived in the
wilderness for years.  Excuse our morning typing capability or lack thereof.

-D (using scott's signature style)
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: chris@inconel.engr.wisc.edu (Christian Rohrmeier)
Subject: Re: ADMIN:  New Ideas
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:57:57 CDT

In article <#jyy5mn@rpi.edu> cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) writes:
>Stephane Lussier:
>
>Go ahead and re-post those messages you sent me here.  Some of your points are
>interesting, and I think that everyone else should have a chance to comment on
>them...
>
>...Paul
>
>

Yeah, show us! I'm sucking my towel with eager anticipation.

-Chris
From: bod@apple.com (Paul Chambers)
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
Subject: Re: Graphics in TV Hitchhikers Guide
Date: 4 Sep 92 00:52:03 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-Xxdate: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:51:40 GMT

In article <18344eINNel9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> William G. Martin,
ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
>By the way, this system has this group, but does not have
alt.douglas-adams.
>That seems rather odd... I got the impression from the FAQ that this
>is an offshoot of that, so here we have the child without the parent...

it's alt.fan.douglas-adams, I think.

Paul
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg)
Subject: Re: ADMIN:  I'm Back!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:27:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.174332.20043@doug.cae.wisc.edu> chris@pigiron.engr.wisc.edu (Christian Rohrmeier) writes:
>In article <vfxy1k+@rpi.edu> cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) writes:
>>I'm back!  And I THINK I've caught up to almost everything that I missed...
>>
>>Therefore, you can start sending your submissions for the Guide to me, 
>>cleggp@aix.rpi.edu, or to Steve Baker as was usual during the summer.
>>
>
>How about explaining exactly what it is you want? Looks like we need an
>FAQ.

Darn, my personal copy got trashed when I switched to OS/2 v2.0...  Let's ask
Steve to post it...

HEY STEVE!  Post the FAQ and the Format Guidelines, okay?  Thanks...  :)

...Paul


Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg)
Subject: ADMIN:  I'm Back!
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:48:03 GMT

I'm back!  And I THINK I've caught up to almost everything that I missed...

Therefore, you can start sending your submissions for the Guide to me, 
cleggp@aix.rpi.edu, or to Steve Baker as was usual during the summer.

I've also been informed of some new ideas for additional fields in the
Guide's records, and additional data files to include extra information
that could be helpful to all the froody hitchhikers out there (thanks for
the ideas, Stephanie; will get back to you on them soon!)

I just d/led the recent version of TheGuide! IBM software, with the new
entries that I'd missed over the summer, and I like them a LOT!  A big
"Thank You" is going out to everyone who put in any time at all on 
contributing to this little project...  Let's kick up the tempo, shall we?

...Paul

PS>  If you had sent me a submission for review, and you haven't heard 
anything about it from me, please tell me about it; I came back to college
and my account to find 88 pieces of email waiting for me, and a small 
amount of time to read them; some may have been lost in the shuffle, and
others may just have slipped by me...  Thanks for your patience.  Let's
make the 92-93 school year a big year for PGG, eh?
From: chris@pigiron.engr.wisc.edu (Christian Rohrmeier)
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
Subject: Re: ADMIN:  I'm Back!
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:43:32 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

In article <vfxy1k+@rpi.edu> cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) writes:
>I'm back!  And I THINK I've caught up to almost everything that I missed...
>
>Therefore, you can start sending your submissions for the Guide to me, 
>cleggp@aix.rpi.edu, or to Steve Baker as was usual during the summer.
>

How about explaining exactly what it is you want? Looks like we need an
FAQ.

-Chris
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
From: cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg)
Subject: ADMIN:  New Ideas
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:24:47 GMT

Stephane Lussier:

Go ahead and re-post those messages you sent me here.  Some of your points are
interesting, and I think that everyone else should have a chance to comment on
them...

...Paul
From: abw@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Andy Wardley)
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
Subject: floop (was:  I'm Back!)
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:27:17 GMT
Organization: International Computers Limited

In article <vfxy1k+@rpi.edu> cleggp@aix.rpi.edu (Paul Jason Clegg) writes:
>I'm back!  And I THINK I've caught up to almost everything that I missed...

Look, me too.  6 months without a bloody news feed....can you believe that.
We got a trickle feed from one machine - we could read but not post.
Anyway, I'm only working here for another week so it's all come a bit too
late.  Ho hum, I should still have a news feed at my next "destination".

>I've also been informed of some new ideas for additional fields in the
>Guide's records, and additional data files to include extra information
>that could be helpful to all the froody hitchhikers out there (thanks for
>the ideas, Stephanie; will get back to you on them soon!)

I gave up on trying to understand what the hell was going on with all
that.  Someone like to summarise?

>PS>  If you had sent me a submission for review, and you haven't heard 
>anything about it from me, please tell me about it; I came back to college
>and my account to find 88 pieces of email waiting for me, and a small 
                       ^^^^
HA!  I came in this morning after just 2 days off work to find 127 items!
Went I went on holiday a few weeks ago (to your side of the pond as it
happens) I came back to find a grillion and six!  Does this mean I've
got more friends than you?  :-)

Just to piss you all off, I've got and read "Mostly Harmless".  Catch 
a.f.d-a later today (my today) for a review. 

CU

Cheers
Andy
-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
 , '   Standard disclaimer available on request                Andy Wardley
-o O-                                                   abw@oasis.icl.co.uk
  l                                                     
  _    "Luke, you've turned off your targeting computer.  Are you drunk?"
From: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Newsgroups: alt.galactic-guide
Subject: Graphics in TV Hitchhikers Guide
Date: 2 Sep 1992 19:19:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Considering that this group has so little traffic, it may well be that no
one will see this. But I'll ask anyway...

By the way, this system has this group, but does not have alt.douglas-adams.
That seems rather odd... I got the impression from the FAQ that this
is an offshoot of that, so here we have the child without the parent...

Anyway: One of the things I really liked about the TV version of HHGttG
(actually one of the only things, since the radio version was so much better)
was the graphics displays that purported to be part of the Guide. Things
like a diagram of the Babel-fish, with all sorts of side notes and details.

Unfortunately, none of this was very clear, considering the program
was broadcast here in St. Louis by a public TV station which always has a 
poorer signal than the commercial stations, and I was seeing it over-the-air
so multipath and ghosting reduced the fine detail my TV could display,
and I only had a relatively-small-screen TV to view it on.

Has any print book reproduced those graphics in readable detail? If so,
what is it?
-- 
Will Martin
wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil OR wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: idfriedm@hertz.uwaterloo.ca (id friedman)
Subject: afterlife
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: alt
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:28:08 GMT

I am wondering whether any books have been written on afterlife?


George
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Re: Merry Christmas Ashers!
From: firewind@wierius.uucp (Tom Parker)
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:40:43 GMT
Organization: Survivors of the Abyss, Ltd.

In article <1992Aug19.035127.24634@udel.edu> awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson) writes:
>It's possible sometimes to cheer yourself up (partially
>at least) by doing constructive or enjoyable things, or to just ignore
>your pain and worries for a little while.  But unless the problems are
>dealt with or go away on their own (wishful thinking), no amount of
>"choosing" to feel better is going to improve your life in the long run.

True.  Doing constructive things allows you to ignore your problems which
isn't really good unless you're working on your problems on a subconscious
level.  If I wanted to do that, I'd become a catatonic!

Of course just simply "choosing" to feel better usually is a form of denial.
I remember telling people I was "fine" when I was going through hell.  Of
course I wasn't being exactly sincere, but that was (or should have been)
readily apparent.

>	You can delude yourself into thinking that things are not as
>bad as they seem in your life for a limited amount of time. Eventually,
>something will force you to deal with the source of the problem.

I went through the "have put it behind me" type of phase on my problems
on occasion.  This would occasionally have me falling into some sort of
depression, angst, or just feeling that frustrating rage at someone you'd
love to inflict lots of pain on -- but they're not anywhere nearby...

>  You can't always chose what you
>feel... if you think you can, you must have never lost anything or
>anyone dear to you or you're deluding yourself.

Actually, I think you can, but its not like turning a light switch on and
off.  It takes time to enact a change and you often end up feeling worse
while confronting/dealing with your pain rather than denying or supressing
it for example.  And I wonder why people would rather not truly deal with
their problems... <obvious sarcasm>

>	Thinking in terms of who's worse off than you are isn't _that_
>much help.

True, its just more denial...

>	Many times there isn't a damn thing you can do to improve things...
>your life's condition isn't just determined by your actions, but also
>by the actions of those around you.  That doesn't mean you should just
>give in and end life, even when it seems like it can never get better.

If life was hard and there wasn't a darn thing we could do to improve it,
we'd all be immortal!  Of course things can't be changed *this instant*,
but you can either change them _slowly_ over time or get that "break"
that life may hand you on occasion.  [remember, life is arbitrary and
capricious]  And of course one can always take action and make your own
breaks, but that doesn't always work...

-- 
"Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not
 become a monster.  And when you look long into an abyss, the abyss also
 looks into you." -- Nietzsche
firewind@wierius.UUCP  or  ..!enuucp!telesys!wierius!firewind
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: thomasl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ((thomasl))
Subject: Re: How to get hold of cyanide?
Summary: why not?
Keywords: turing, test, yum, yum, yum
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:01:22 GMT

Final Exit being incredibly hard to come by (they just can't keep it
on the shelves here.  People are dying to read it), can someone please
summarize why NOT sodium cyanide?  

And, didn't Turing do himself in that way?

And finally, just where the heck does one get a nice, fast acting, painless
poison, outside of joining the C.I.A. and doing counter-intellegence work.
Or is going out with a secret-agent and good idea, and, during the good
night kiss, working your tongue 'round to nip the cap on their secret
tooth, and going out a' deux?

all info. much appreciated.
From: EUCLID@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
Subject: Correction! (r.e. victimization and revenge)
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:14:00 GMT
Organization: C.C.S.O.

Where i write 'as justifiable as the acts of a rapist' the word justifiable
should be replaced by the word excusable.
I apologize for this error.
 
euclid
Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday
From: awatson@pecan.cns.udel.edu (angela watson)
Subject: Re: afterlife
Organization: none 
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:16:01 GMT

In article <BttCux.723@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> idfriedm@hertz.uwaterloo.ca (id friedman) writes:
>I am wondering whether any books have been written on afterlife?
>
>
>George


	There have been _tons_ of books about afterlife... but which
kind are you interested in? Books debating if there is an afterlife and/or
what type(s) of afterlife there may be? Books describing various
types of afterlife?                                          

	Hopefully, this won't spark _another_ battle over what everyone
"should" believe...

						psycho kitten

Newsgroups: alt.suicide.holiday