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From: frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (FRANK D N)
Subject: Re: German race riots
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Undergrads).
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:18:55 GMT

In article <92244.094001RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET> <RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET> writes:

>Visitors to Germany should be aware that demonstrations against 'auslaenders'
>(foreigners) are taking place in several cities. The problem is prevelent in
>the former East Germany, with homes for asylum seekers being set ablaze,
>street demos, etc., but fringe activities such as shooting at such homes isalso
>taking place in the former West Germany. The cause of the unrest is Germany's
                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>very liberal asylum law, defined in the Constitution, coupled with a high
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>level of unemploylment in the indigenous  population ....
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is not the cause, but a catalyst. 

The cause is racism.


--
David Frank       <frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za>
University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg
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From: spk@uk.ac.aber (Stephen Kingston)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:41:30 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Wales at Aberystwyth.

ian@sinix.UUCP (Ian Malone) wrote:

> Well, because the economy and standard of living in the States is vastly
> superior to that of european countries, more Americans travel.  

Actually, I think that, per Capita, the British travel (abroad) more then 
any other nation.

Stephen
-- 
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(I saw the one above all men,  he saw me;  he, the beloved of his people,
who fulfills his mission. I saw Easter.) "Yspeil Taliesin" ---Taliesin---
spk@uk.ac.aber --- spk%uk.ac.aber@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk --- Stephen Kingston
From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: How to see Seattle cheap?
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:15:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cleanplate.ebay.sun.com

In article <26680006@hpspkla.spk.hp.com> cicarell@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell) writes:
>I was just browsing through the notes and noticed your trip to Seattle.  
>The busses are free in the city, pretty cheap everywhere else.  

From my visit, I know that the buses are _not_ free in Seattle, except in the
downtown area, and in some directions, on some routes, at some times of day.
Screwiest fare structure I ever saw.  Never did figure out the logic of it.

Good bus system, though.
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From: john@sequent.com (John Vander Borght)
Subject: Re: Island of Santorini, Greece.
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: sqnt
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 16:00:35 GMT

My wife spent two months on Santorini back in the early 80s and she and I
spent a week there at the end of September in 1988.

By October, many of the smaller, less expensive hotels will have closed for
the year.  The week we were there was the last week out hotel was going to
be open.  We stayed down on the beach just south of the airport.  As I sit
at my desk and type this, there is a picture of the sunrise over this beach
right above my X Term (-:.  Thira is a great town, but is expensive compared
to the other parts of the island.  Definitely go up there to watcht the
sunset.  There is a great bar that plays classical music and serves some
potent drinks whose name I can't remember there.  Oia at the northern tip
of the crater is a beautiful town.

Someone said that they flew 727s or 737s in there, I only saw commuter
prop-jets during the week we were there.

You should be careful about taking the ferries as they don't always run
every day during the winter months.  When we got off the ferry from Crete,
there were lots of people there who had rooms to rent.  It would have been
quite easy to rent one, but we were going back to the place that Terri had
stayed before.  The beauty of the ferry is that it comes in to the crater
and docks at the bottom of the island, while the plane lands on the
outside edge of the island.
-- 
"Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty!"
John Vander Borght
john@sequent.com
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From: ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:26:41 GMT
Organization: Home for the Terminally Infirm

In article <13820@chalmers.se> d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell) writes:
>
>  When I travelled in the US, we had to put a Swedish flag on our car to 
>avoid being mistaken for "loud irritating obtrusive German tourists".

I can't imagine it doing much good, since I suspect that most Americans
wouldn't recognize the Swedish flag when they see it.
-- 
Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear              ekman@netcom.com
Home for the Terminally Infirm, Redwood City, California
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Upgrading your Britrail Pass
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:01:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.194437.7997@unixg.ubc.ca> banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji) writes:
>		Upgrading your Britrail Pass
>
>	If anyone from the US/Canada is planning to travel in Britain
>using a Britrailpass in the next few months, they can upgrade their
>standard pass for first class travel if they have a Visa card.
>	Visa is now peddling something called a Royal Britain Passport
>which is available to any Visa holder in the US/Canada. If you haven't
>received the flyer in your monthly statement, you can order it by calling
>1-800-VISA-511. Apparently this is available to all Visa cardholders
>regardless of the issuing bank.
>	This passport costs $3.75. It mainly consists of discount offers
>for various expensive hotels and restauraunts as well as expensive 
>department stores like Harrod's. As far as rail travellers are concerned,
>it says that this passport entitles you to travel by first class with your
>standard class Britrail pass if space is available. However, this upgrade
>does not apply to peak hour trains to and from London on weekdays.
>	Sounds like good value if one plans to travel a lot by train
>in Britain.

I called and ordered this.  It's a 48 page booklet.  The $3.75 is for
postage and handling.  I'm really looking forward to getting it since I
was planning a Nov.-Dec. trip to tour the English countryside anyway.

Thanks for posting this info, Ajai!

(Oh, and if I'm not mistaken, you have to get your Britrailpass here
in North America, *before* travelling.  Your travel agent should be able
to do this for you.)

Charleen
--
What's the difference between the Marine Corps and the Boy Scouts?
        1] Boy Scouts have adult supervision
        2] Boy Scouts don't have heavy artillery.
                                -- woody
From: Alan_York@mindlink.bc.ca (Alan York)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Info on St. John's
Date: 27 Aug 92 00:39:47 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

St John's where?  Antigua, Newfoundland, etc?
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From: katiyar@CS.Stanford.EDU (Dinesh Katiyar)
Subject:  recommendations : weekend train trips from paris/ eurail pass
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:01:03 GMT

i'll be spending three months in paris starting next month, and would
love to hear your recommendations for what places i could visit over
the weekends (i'll be working weekdays :-( ). also, given that i'll be
there three months, and will be travelling only weekends, any suggestions
on what kind of eurail pass to buy? is there any equivalent of BritRail
pass for france? in which case i could get some combination of the local
pass and a eurail flexipass...

and while i am at it, does anyone have any suggestions for accomodations
for three months in rueil-malmaison, near paris?  any info on sublets would
be really wonderful!

please reply by email - katiyar@cs.stanford.edu

thanks,

dinesh katiyar
stanford university
california, usa.
From: rsakella@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Island of Santorini, Greece.
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:35:02 GMT

From Athens(West airport), the flight to Santorini takes around 40mins 
(usually Boeing 727 or 737). Santorini's airport is located at the east 
side of the island.  Get a taxi (cheap) and go to Fira (or Thira), 
(around 15mins). Finding accomodation at Fira this period is very easy; 
try for something with a view to the volcano.
I'd suggest the buses for your visits: in October they are almost empty. 
Apart from the sunset at Fira, I'd suggest Akrotiri (for fresh fish
- difficult to find nice Greek food at Fira  - and for the excavations), 
Thirassia (very picturesque small island, there are small boats from Fira) 
and Oia (wonderful view).
Have a nice trip...
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: john@spss.com (John Przyborowski)
Subject: Re: Info on St. John's
Organization: SPSS Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:10:23 GMT

Alan_York@mindlink.bc.ca (Alan York) writes:

>St John's where?  Antigua, Newfoundland, etc?
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>        alan_york@mindlink.bc.ca  |  Vancouver, B.C., Canada    604/294-9193
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------

oooppss.....St John's, the Virgin Islands.

thanks
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 01:01:48 CET
From: <KCHAN@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Anyone been to the Rose Parade in LA on New Year's Day?

As a Pasadena resident, I wish to point out that the Rose Parade originates
and ends in the city of Pasadena, which is most definitely NOT part of the
city of Los Angeles. County of Los Angeles, yes.

What? Me, a nit-picker??? :-)

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From: kinch@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kinch Malapitan)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:02:43 GMT
Subject: Re: 2 Weeks in the Philippines - Tips wanted
Organization: the HP Mtn.View Resp. Cntr.
From: 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Miami and Hurricane
Date: 26 Aug 92 02:59:53 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

>Anybody knows whether guests at beach hotels along Miami Beach
>had to evacuate when the hurricane alert was on?

I know that Sunday morning they were talking about evacuating
non residents from the Keys.  (I was PLANNING on leaving that
day anyway.)
From: bl220006@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Info on Courier flights wanted
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:37:12 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

Hello folks !
I am thinking about going to Europe or Orient during the next few months.
I have been advised by some people to take the tickets through the courier
as they offer very cheap fares and take up your baggage space. 
	I do not ming giving up my baggage space since I have a big carry-on
and can survive on that. I would like to know if any of you have experinces 
on these type of deals and whether they are safe or not. 
	I would also appreciate if some of you could provide me the name and d
telephone number of any of these courier agencies.

	Thanks a lot.

-Indy.
From: jis@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jishnu.mukerji)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: NEW YORK SKYLINE
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:20:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep3.164536.4292@meaddata.com> joyce@meaddata.com writes:
>Could somebody please tell me where I can get a good view of 
>the New York City skyline? I want to get some pictures either
>early in the morning or at sundown. Thanks!

If you are interested in a broad sweeping vista of the New York
skyline covering all the way from George Washington Bridge to
Varazzano Narrows Bridge in a single view, sort of like a spectacular
jagged mountain range, try Eagle Rock near Montclair NJ. It is easy to
get to. Take I280 West from the NJ Turnpike to the Verona exit (I
forget the exit number). At the second light make a right, then at the
first left make a left into Eagle Rock Park. You will see a sign for a
restaurant called the Highland Pavalion at the entrance. Drive down
the road in the park until you get to the eastward facing ledge with
the spectacular view of New York City. Do this on a clear day for best
effect. On less than clear days you can clearly see effects of
temperature inversion and yellow-orange layer of Ozone and pollution 
hanging over and partly obscuring New York City.

Jishnu Mukerji
jis@usl.com
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From: planius@ips105.desy.de (P. Lanius)
Subject: Re: What to do in Belgium in October?
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron, Hamburg, Germany.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:05:13 GMT


You should visit Brussel and Bruegge. Brussel has a nice old city center
and awful lots of extraordinary belgish restaurants. If you don't mind to
spend some money of course...
Bruegge is a really beautiful old town close to North Sea. Really worth to
see. But you don't need more than a day for either Brussel and Bruegge.
Sorry if I've misspelled the town names.

Peter

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From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: I want to go to Europe
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:12:06 GMT
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Cc: afruben@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov

In article <27AUG199210485466@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> afruben@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (RUBEN DELROSARIO) writes:
>
>Hi folks!!
>
>  My wife and me are thinking about going to Europe sometime in 1993 (
>possible Summer).  We are thinking of a travel with back-packs, jeans, 
>shirts.  Maybe arriving in Spain and start traveling from there (we do not 
>have kids)  We are thinking of being between three and four weeks.  
>What are your recommendations?  Airline, where to go in Spain, France, etc.
>, where to stay, motels, bed and breakfast, and transportation. (rent a car
>, train, etc.)  I need all the info you can give.  Please, if possible 
>reply by E-mail I don't have too much time to read the net. 

In other words, "please spend lots of time trying to figure out what
would be fun for me to do, and don't post it so other people could
benefit from it, too, because I can't be bothered to read this group."

Here's "all the info I can give":

BUY A GUIDEBOOK.  Better yet, two or three.  The "Let's Go" series of
budget travel books would probably be perfect for what you want, and
although I have never used them, they're highly regarded by the
backpack set.  They're available at most bookstores; I know Crown Books
carries them.  Read them, and don't come back until you have specific
requests.

Charleen

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From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: re:Australia - Great Barrier Reef Question
Date: 26 Aug 92 02:09:00 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide

In article <1992Aug20.072757.25440@src.honeywell.com>, hoyme@src.honeywell.com (Ken Hoyme) writes:
> My wife and I will be traveling to Australia in October.  We would like
> to spend a few days in the Great Barrier Reef area.  I am interested in
> recommendations for this area:
> 
> 1) Where should we fly into?  (We will be starting in Sydney)

Cairns is probably best.

> 
> 2) What are the 'must see'/'must do' things in this area?
>    (Neither of us scuba dive).  Helicopter trips??

That depends on whether you don't dive because you haven't had training or have
a fear of water (not a flame my mother rufuses to dive for exactly that reason)
Unless you get underthe water you cannot aprecxiate the real beauty of the
reef, even glass bottomed boats do not do it justice although they are the
second best option.  You can get a quickie training course to dive witha group
and an experienced guide.  From memory this involves a half day of training in
basic safety precautions followed by a couple of gentle dives in pools and so
on and then you go into the reff itself accompanied by one or more guides
depending on the size of the party you join.

> 
> 3) Are there particular islands we should consider as part of the visit?

South Molle or Hayman Islands are some of the most popular.  I spent a summer
vacation working on them as a dive instructor after I left high school (yes
they did check my papers).  They are generally party places with the "booze
crooz" in particular being a lot of fun.

>    
> Any other suggestions -- places to eat, places to stay -- would be
> appreciated.

If you ever eat at a fast food place (not a franchised one like McDonalds) such
as a fish n' chip shop, try telling them you're a local (assuming the accent
isn't too strong) and you may get a discount.  Some places (not all) are
definitely overpriced so you can usually tell by that.

regs

Rob

--
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           | designed by a bored researcher who kept one thumb permanently on
           | the fast forward button."    William Gibson, _Neuromancer_
From: woody@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk (Ian Woodrow)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Europe - Strategies for dealing with exchange rates, money etc.
Date: 28 Aug 92 10:50:33 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Service

Another hint:   If you have Polish zloty - CHANGE THEM BEFORE YOU LEAVE POLAND!
                Nobody else wants them and it can be difficult to find a place
                to exchange them outside Poland.  It's all paper money but
                there are things like 100, 500, 1000, 10,000 zloty notes and
                the exchange rate is 25,700 zl = UKL 1


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Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.brazil
From: kls@netcom.com (Kim L. Serkes)
Subject: Re: Brazil travel question
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 02:39:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

This is a rather appallingly ignorant question, but it does seem
sincere, and really doesn't merit the major flames I've seen.

The short answer is that a coup is all but out of the question, and
would most likely take the form of a group of senior military personnel
visiting CoLLor (piLLantra) and saying "time to resign."  Not a bloody
tanks in the street kind of a deal.

There have been major street demonstrations, but they have been peaceful.
You might get your purse snatched, but that's hardly news.

Look, go to Brazil and enjoy yourselves.  Do try to learn a bit about
the country, though.  Otherwise, you might as well just go to a Club Med.

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: kene@sequent.com (Ken Ewing)
Subject: Re: Eating in foreign places 
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 17:50:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.130854.19119@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) writes:
>
>Five of us went a couple of years ago and ate a wonderful seafood dinner at one
>of the outdoor restaurants there with absolutely no problems.  In fact, we ate
>all sorts of food all through Hong Kong, Thailand, Malaysia, and Singapore from
>outdoor stands, restaurants, etc., and never had a problem.
>

Ditto.  We just came back from a month's travelling through Singapore, 
Hong Kong, and Thailand (Bangkok and Chiang Mai).  We ate at a variety 
of places (street vendors, sit-down restaurants, western fastfood places) 
and never got sick.  We did, however, employ some prudence in choosing 
the places where we ate.  You can usually make a good judgment about 
the cleanliness of a given street vendor by just looking at the fare 
(food, that is).  It is also true that you are at least as likely to 
get sick from the dishes (being washed in the local water) as you are 
from the food.  

We had no problems.  

  Ken Ewing 
  Sequent Computer Systems, Inc. 
  Beaverton, Oregon 
  kene@sequent.com 
  ...!uunet!sequent!kene
From: smezias@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: ? Tuxtla Gutierrez, Chiapas, Mexico
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:28:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <1992Aug28.025352.14537@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>
LJ09735@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (JEFF) writes about Tuxtla:

>recollections of the place were that it was extremely hot/humid and that there
>was not that much to see in town. The surrounding area,though, has much to

I was there 7 years ago, but don't they have the clock in the
cathedral where the twelve apostles come out each hour when it
strikes?  

SJM
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: HoJo Dispute
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:37:39 GMT

charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) wrote: 
->If you have a multi-night stay and guarantee the first night via credit
->card, FIND OUT what their policy is with regard to cancellation.  I'm 
->currently in the middle of a dispute with an Albuquerque B&B which claims
->that they're entitled to charge my card for all three nights I had planned
->to stay, not just the first night I had guaranteed.

this is usually true with small b&b's in the us ... but none of them
will mention the policy unless you ASK ... and since your bucks are on
the line, you should ask.

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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: Barry M. Mathieu
Subject: Info on travel to Acapulco 
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 16:12:17 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Followup-To: Please post response

My grilfriend and I are planning a trip to Acapulco from Oct. 3 - Oct. 10, 1992.  I have 
never traveled to Mexico and I have several questions:

1.) How absolutely necessary is the Spanish language in the vacinity of Acapulco, i.e.
	Taxco, Ixtapta, etc?

2.) Is there an on-line weather servive I can access which will provide daily temps
	and weather forcasts for Acapulco?

3.) I've heard that getting from the airport to the city is either accomplished by bus
	or an airport taxi.  Is this correct?  If so, any recommendations?

In addition, any recommendations anyone might have, such as moderately priced restaurants,
or exciting things to do, I would greatly appreciate your suggestions.

Barry M. Mathieu

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