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From: kentm@pro-applejacks.cts.com (Michael Kent)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: HyperCard StarTrek Stack
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:54:23 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-applejacks]

There is also a Star Trek: The Next Generation stack for HyperStudio (GS
only).  It fills about six 800K disks.

Mike

Michael Kent                             ProLine:  kentm@pro-applejacks
McDonnell Douglas                        Internet: kentm@pro-applejacks.cts.com
St. Louis, MO                            UUCP:     crash!pro-applejacks!kentm
All opinions herein are solely those of the author.          APPLE II FOREVER!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: Re: scsi hd on apple ][e
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:51:42 GMT

In article <93024.123355DBE100@psuvm.psu.edu> <DBE100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>   I have an old 20meg scsi drive that I would like to use on my old apple IIe.
>  what software and hardware are needed?

Do you have an enhanced IIe (65C02 processor) or unenhanced (6502)?
You can tell by looking at the name displayed at the top of the screen
when you reboot.  An unenhanced IIe displays 'Apple ][', while the
enhanced IIe displays 'Apple //e'.

There are two SCSI interface cards made by Apple: the original one,
and the 'High Speed' one.  The latter requires a 65C02 processor
(enhanced IIe, IIc or IIgs), but is quite a lot faster than the
original card.  Apple no longer sell the original SCSI card, so you
would have to buy a second-hand one.  Make sure it has the latest ROM
('revision C', which is labelled 341-0437-A.

You can also use one version of the RamFAST SCSI card (I'm not sure
which one).

You will only be able to use the ProDOS operating system with the SCSI
hard drive (i.e. you can't use DOS 3.3, Pascal or CP/M, at least, not
easily).

All the SCSI cards are supplied with software that can test and
partition the hard drive.  No additional software is required - ProDOS
will automatically recognise the hard drive (once it is formatted) and
you can use standard ProDOS utility programs to copy files to and from
the hard drive.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: Re: Need help with some text files
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:19:43 GMT

>Could you be a bit more specific on the location of the pindarus
>server?
 
pindarus.uiuc.edu
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu
(extra cr's, oops)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: failed posts
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:20:56 GMT

failed posts:
 
 
>Re: Can GS power a fan?
 
The internal fan connector is/was intended for the fan sold
by Apple. I think it mounts right next to the power supply.
Notice the rounded openings (if I remember right) on the PS?
 
Cirtech also sold an internal IIGS fan. I believe the HyperStudio
slotless digitizer mounts in a slot/port opening and draws power
from the fan connector.
 
 
>Subject: Re: Keyboard menus
>From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
 
>custom menus need a few
>(easy) modifications in order to work. I encourage you to make these
>modifications as they are easy to make and will result in only about 50
>extra bytes of code. The result is well worth it.
 
I strongly encourage you to just ignore custom menus.
 
 
>Subject: Re: Resources on c.b.a2?
>From: joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn)
 
>Based on a few emails, apparently not everyone has seen or read Zen and The
>Art of the Internet or The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Internet.
 
>Is it appropriate for me to post them on c.b.a2? If so, they are both pretty
>long, maybe 150K each. Do I have to break them up? Should I Shrink them and
>Binscii them?
 
I'm a bit confused. Zen and The Art of the Internet is a published book. I
assume it is copyrighted. Yet, it is availabe via ftp and our help disk will
sell photocopies. It is not copyrighted?
 
 
For sale: ImageWriter II w/cable: $195
 
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu
 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: Re: IRQ/video counter problem
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:43:03 GMT

I don't know what is wrong with your program but something to
definitely watch out for when using the video counters is that
(the) fact that you might never see certains values.
Heartbeat (VBL) interrupts trigger at line 192. You are not likely
to ever see 192-??? (depends on how many heartbeat tasks and
how long they take.)

Interrupts would not mess with the video counters. Be sure to
access them 8-bits at a time (unless you know what the next location
is, it might be safe. The video counters are two neighboring bytes,
aren't they.) And using the video counters would not mess up interrupts.
(I forget which you asked.) Also, be sure that cmp #$xx is only
8-bit if the accumulator is 8-bits then. That is an easy way
to get a brk instruction in your code.
 
 J

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: djshaw01@romulus.spd.louisville.edu (Daniel Shaw)
Subject: HEeeeeeelp...
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:10:18 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

how does one recognize whether a zip exists in a slot from a program...
I noticed in thye cH..'s code that it accesses the annunciators to turn it on or off....????? it doesn't really make sense...if anyone knows how.. email or better.. post!!!!...let everyone know how to do it..
also....what type of ram is the cache on the ZIPGSX?..I know the model...but
I don't know the type...
	what is the discusion about PAL's about? 
and lastly...on this new 65c816E or whatever...can it be placed on a zip.no hitches attached?????and how...
?
	Dan...
		please help, ......I'm drowning in a sea of Silicon....

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: Apple File Exchange problems
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:28:03 GMT

In article <1jla5iINN7se@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb408@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Reames) writes:
>
>'m STILL having problems converting AW files to Microsoft Works.
>My school lab has LC2's.  I've installed Apple File Exchange on the
>hard drive of the LC.  I've formatted a new disk on the GS and then dragged
>the AW files from the 5.25" floppy to the 3.5" disk, formatted with
>GS/OS from System 6.0.  
>Then I run Apple File Exchange.  I then put in the  3.5" disk.  I get the
>message that the Mac doesn't recognize the disk, and the question is asked
>if I want to format the disk or eject it.
>-- 
>Ron Reames.............reames@sendit.nodak.edu

Well, a couple of ideas come to mind.
First, if you are using System 6.0 on the GS you should be able to format
the 3.5 inch disk as an HFS disk which the Mac can read.  If you've done 
this, and the Mac still chokes on the disk, make sure the disk is a double 
density disk as opposed to a high density disk. The GS may be formatting
a high density disk at 800K. When you put this in the Mac, the Mac "sees"
the high density "square hole" and thinks it should be looking at a 1.44Mb
formatted disk!! If this is the case, either use a double density disk
(no square hole along the edge) or put a chunk of tape over the hole in the
disk so you can fool the Mac into thinking it has a double density disk in
the drive!!

Second, if you have an 800K ProDOS formatted disk which you are putting
into the Mac drive to read, make sure you have already launched Apple File
Exchange BEFORE you insert the ProDOS disk. Again, you may have to watch
that you are not using a high density disk (see above).

Finally, there is a system extension for the Mac which allows it to read
ProDOS formatted disks and place them on the desktop. If you still have
trouble with making your conversion this may be an avenue to explore.

Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com

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From: meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu (timothy lee meekins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Western design chip
Date: 25 Jan 1993 04:48:34 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <1jv04uINNn1t@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb408@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Reames) writes:
>
>I read in the Feb. issue of A+/InCider that Western Design has a chip for the
>GS, the W65C81PL-E, that will double the speed of the GS.  Is this on the
>level?  Anyone have one that can confirm it really works?  How about the
>cost?  Thanks!!

<raise hand from back of the room>

yup, I have one....

of course, saying is "doubles the speed" is a little misleading
as 14 MHz is little more than twice as fast as 2.8 MHz....Now, a better
statement would be is doubles the speed of of a 7 MHz Transwarp GS,
which, by the way, you'll need before wasting your money on the chip.

Can't say that it will work on a Zip without modifications, but I'm
sure if you call Zip, they can tell your what need.

The cost? Around $80 to $100, plus another $10 or so for a crystal, which
I forgot to mention you'll also need....

Oh, one caveat, just because mine runs a 13.75MHz, don't expect yours
to, the chips are only rated at around 12 MHz...you'll have to be damn
luckly like I was and get a chip (or maybe I got a good TWGS) that
will go all the way w/o problems...I should add, though, that for $100,
it was darn fine investment...

oh, add a 32k cache to the TWGS along with the chip, then you'll really
cruise....

-Tim "43 hours with no sleep and still going" Meekins
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-lep.cts.com!nighttripper@cactus.org (Joseph Litherland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: AppleWorks to AppleWorks GS info
Date: 26 Jan 1993 02:14:45 -0600
Organization: The Texas Leprechaun BBS, Austin, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 
> Is there a way to get all of my AppleWorks spreadsheet formats,
>layouts, and
>formulas to read into AWGS?

In AppleWorks GS, I would just open the original Appleworks file in DB and
WP formats, and AWGS would convert them automatically.  I'm sure it can do
this with spreadsheets as well....

Aha!  In the "Using AppleWorks GS" book by Douglas L. Brown, in Appendix A,
it says that classic Appleworks files can be opened by the analogous AWGS
applicaton.  Basically, in AWGS, at the "opening menu," 
        (1) click on the name of the file to select the file
        (2) click on the open button on the dialog box  (or just simply
doubleclick on the file in step (1).  But there's more:
        "When you open a classic AppleWorks spreadsheet file, the contents
of the SS are displayed in a new AWGS SS window.  The following list is
the formatting retained in the document:
        Cell formatting
        Default cell format
        Column width
        Titles
  THe most important changes are seen in classic AppleWorks formulas.  A
crucial change applies to relative and absolute references in formulas.  In
classic AppleWorks SS, no information is stored with the formula to
indicate if references are relative or absolute.  All references are stored
as relative references."  As a result, when classic AW formulas are
transferred to the new doc, all references must be displayed as relative
references.  This won't have impact on the values displayed on the original
SS, but may have serious consequences if you copy or move formulas from
their original location in the SS.  Carefully check all formulas in the SS
before copying or moving formulas!
        There is more in Appendix B, but restating all that info could take
some time.  Mail me for more help, if needed.
.get
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Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Can GS power a fan?
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:41:29 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2

When the IIGS was released, Apple's rule-of-thumb was "once you have three
or more boards in your machine, buy one of our fans".  The Apple fan
connects directly to the power supply, and plugs into the fan socket on
the back edge of the motherboard.  You should be able to connect any small
fan to it (of course, matching specs and such).

According to the schematic diagram in the Hardware Reference, the fan
connector has one +12V pin; the other leads to ground.

I hope this helps!

- Eric S.

--
Eric D. Shepherd                   | Apple II Alliance Charter Member
InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher)
Subject: Proboot5.1
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:20:45 GMT

I installed proboot5.1 on a copy of prodos 2.0.1 and it works fine except for
one problem, when I hit space bar to skip proboot it crashes and gives a
relocation error.

This is on a 3.25meg rom 1 GS booting a 3.5 in the smart port. I have an 8/16
ZipGS and assorted printer and sound cards installed.

Also, it recognizes the ram disk as a bootable disk but I can't seem to get
it to boot.. This also happens when setting the boot slot to Ram Disk in the
control panel. What files do I need to have on it and what do I need to set
for it to boot properly?


P.S. On a slightly related topic (ramdisks).. I was playing Test Drive 2
which my friend brought over and getting fed up with the HUGE delays we
decided to put it on the ram-disk, I made an 800k ram disk and copied it all
over and renamed the ramdisk and tried quitting to the main executable and
prodos more than once, both times it got part way into the load and said
'memory fragmentation error' and something about being unable to repair it
and then it would freeze. If I booted with a ram disk active at all (even
with a different name) I would get the same error, does anyone have any ideas
why?

(The ram disk was set to 1meg and 800k on the two occasions I tried this so
there was memory left for TD2.)

--

Clayten_Hamacher@Mindlink.bc.ca                 Land of the rising snow.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: pbauer@athena.mit.edu (Paul H Bauer)
Subject: Harris GS Sauce
Keywords: memory,GS,
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:57:28 GMT

	I just installed a GS sauce card in a 2e GS upgrade system and want t
advise people that this card does indeed fit in the 2e case without cutting
or modifying anything.

pbauer@mit.edu
From: archmage@cs.mcgill.ca (Patrick Marcoux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Educational games that teach about computers
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:18:56 GMT
Reply-To: archmage@cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: Forgive the Moose campaign international

I posted an article a while ago looking for educational games
for apple IIgs that actually taught about computers.  I received
a few very good suggestions, and I want to thank those who wrote
in.

Some of you expressed interest in seeing the list of what I got.
Some of these software are going to be hard to find, as they are
either public domain, out of print, or of unknown source.  Again
I appeal to you, if you know where to get 'em, do tell.

Title			Publisher		Category

6502 SIMULATOR		public domain		CPU simulator
Rocky's Boots		Learning Company	Circuit logic	*
Robot Odyssey		Learning Company	Circuit logic	*
High Wire Logic		Sunburst		Boolean logic
Algernon		Sunburst		"Programming"
Willy Byte		?			?		*
The Friendly Computer	MECC			Kbd & peripheral
Apple presents Apple	Apple			Intro disk
Tour of the GS		Apple			Intro disk
Know your Apple		Muse			?		*

? Unknown
* Out of print

(P.S. I'm already using Friendly Computers, as well as a lot
 of the MECC series, & the intro disks.)

Unfortunately, it would seem that not many software
manufacturers thought about this kind of educational product,
or that kids should learn anything about the types of tools
they can expect to use later on in life.  

Seems that a lot of us are using 'business' software for 
this sort of school activities.  But then, teaching is about making due with what little we've got, isn't it?  (That's what our school board keeps telling us ;-)

Here's a few of those:
Title		Category			

Print Shop	Graphic Design & Layout		
HyperStudio	Graphical User Interfaces
Appleworks	Spreadsheet/Database
PEPSI		BBS (used in local mode)
Magic Slate II	Text editor with dictionary
+ School Speller

I haven't tried the HyperStudio environment.  Is there
a user friendly interface that might help kids produce simple
but nifty looking programs?  (Like, for instance, the NeXT Step
environment?)

And where can I find PEPSI or some such BBS?  That sounds like
a cool idea.


Thanks all,

	Patrick (archmage@cs.mcgill.ca)
-- 
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	Every program has at least one bug and can be shortened by at least
	one instruction -- from which, by induction, one can deduce that
	every program can be reduced to one instruction which doesn't work.
From: edward@pro-ren.cts.com (Edward Floden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: AW to Microsoft: still having problems
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:40:29 GMT
Organization: Technological Renaissance Information eXchange

cb408@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Reames) writes:

>That's the problem.  When I format a Mac disk on the LC2 the the GS (with HFS
>on it) won't recognize it.  When I initialize a disk with HFS from the GS- then
>the Mac won't regognize that!

By any chance, do your disks have the letters "HD" on them? What you're
describing sounds as if you're formatting a high-density floppy. On the IIgs,
you're formatting it as an 800K disk; but the Mac sees it as a 1.44MB disk,
so it's not readable. When formatted on the Mac, it's a 1.44MB disk, which
the 800K drive on the IIgs can't read.
From: nparker@cie.uoregon.edu (Neil Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Microsoft Softcard problems
Date: 24 Jan 93 12:14:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1ju170INNovb
Organization: The Universal Society for the Prevention of Reality
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu

Does anybody out there by any chance have a Microsoft Softcard plugged into
their Apple IIGS?

I was recently given a Microsoft Softcard CP/M system.  I plugged the card
in and booted the disk and it works--my screen says "A>".

The problem is that after a while it starts flaking out on me.  After an
hour or so of operation, it just sort of fails--sometimes it just locks up
so that I have to press control-apple-reset, and sometimes the disk starts
spinning.  Once it wrote garbage all over a disk.

The "native mode" side of the system doesn't seem to affected at all--the
problem occurs only when the Z-80 is active.

I'm wondering if perhaps the Softcard is adversely affected by the heat
inside my GS's case (which has never been a problem before).  After one
failure I took the cover off the machine and felt the chips--you could have
fried an egg on the Z-80.


I'd also be grateful if anybody out there can tell me why the Softcard has
trouble directly accessing the IIGS keyboard.  It has no trouble at all
accessing other I/O locations, but the Z-80 seems to think the high bit at
$C000 (E000 in Z-80 mode) is always 0, regardless of whether or not a key
has been pressed.

               - Neil Parker

(Yes, I know I'm probably crazy for actually USING this fossil, but what
the heck...I'm actually enjoying this look back at the ancient history of
computers.)
--
Neil Parker                 No cute ASCII art...no cute quote...no cute
nparker@cie.uoregon.edu     disclaimer...no deposit, no return...
parker@corona.uoregon.edu   (This space intentionally left blank:           )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: Matt Ackeret <unknown@apple.com>
Subject: Re: Two Systems... One Hard Drive?
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:02:34 GMT
X-Xxdate: Tue, 26 Jan 93 21:03:05 GMT
Organization: Apple

In article <1993Jan26.170524.29539@nuscc.nus.sg> ONG TAT-WEE,
isc10327@nusunix1.nus.sg writes:
> 	If you don't want to corrupt your file system, then DON'T USE
> Taifun Boot!  Everything will appear to work fine until you try to
> optimize your hard drive then, ...... heh heh heh.
> 	Apparently NinjaForce uses unorthodox techniques to modify the
> existing ProDOS file and System folder info bits, corrupting them in the
> process.

I've optimized my hard drive, and it works fine..

If you try to do some of the low level disk *repair* utilities, then they
won't work.. Because the boot block is changed by TaiFunBoot..  Unfortunately
there seems to be no easy way to *uninstall* TaifunBoot.

For the most part though, it works VERY well..

I repeat, it does *NOT* wreck your hard drive when you optimize. I've done it
a whole bunch of times since I installed TaifunBoot a while ago..  and I know
that the files are not corrupted.
--
unknown@apple.com                         Apple II Forever
unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu   These opinions are mine, not Apple's.
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ProDOS on a Mac
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:38:18 GMT

The Apple //e emulation card for the Macintosh LC includes an INIT which
allows ProDOS disks to be mounted just like a Mac HFS disk.

- Eric S.

--
Eric D. Shepherd                   | Apple II Alliance Charter Member
InterNet: uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu  |           ACM Member
FidoNet:  1:206/2713 Eric Shepherd | Programming Law #1: "When in
AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
(Smail3.1.28.1 #7) id m0nGJib-0000WSC; Sun, 24 Jan 93 18: 38 PST
From: tomk@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Tom Kelly)
Subject: Re: Failed Power SAupply
Organization: ProLine [pro-nsdapple] - North San Diego Apple Users Group
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 15:40:03 PST

The easy way to solve the problem is to cut the cable off the Apple supply
and splice it on to a pc supple.   If you get a used one at a swap meet,
they are $5-10.00.
It will NOT fit in the case, but the savings is worth the hastle.
From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: rSounds -- How to play them?
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:03:43 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Larry Schneider asks:
>Dave, how do you stop NiftyList in mid scroll?  I'm sure it is
>obvious - I just cant seem to find it.  Thanks    Larry

Larry... press the spacebar rght after hitting return.

Marc Wolfgram
AOL: M Wolfgram   GEnie: M.WOLFGRAM2   inet: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com
There are two ways to write bug-free code and only the third one works!
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Western design chip
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:11:08 PST
Organization: BBS

If you're lucky, you'll be able to go 15mhz like me.  :)  But I had to get 15ns
SRAMs, and increase my voltage to 5.6v to be here.  I'm at about 4x the speed
of a stock gs.

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com