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From: thompson@cu10.crl.aecl.ca (Michael Alan Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Khoros problems on SGI 4D/35TG
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:38:52 GMT

This is a resend, since I didn't get any response
except for on comiseration from a chap with similar
problems.
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Help!
I anonftp'd Khoros 1.0 Patch Level 5 from pprg.eece.unm.edu
recently (SGI binaries and required system directories, etc.).
Some of the programs seem to work just fine, but some of them
do not.  Editimage does not seem to be using the proper colourmap,
even when I use the VIFF files provided.  Putimage does work,
though.  Our hardware and graphics configurations are as follows:
 
HW:

1 36 MHZ IP12 Processor
FPU: MIPS R2010A/R3010 VLSI Floating Point Chip Revision: 4.0
CPU: MIPS R2000A/R3000 Processor Chip Revision: 3.0
On-board serial ports: 4
Data cache size: 64 Kbytes
Instruction cache size: 64 Kbytes
Main memory size: 24 Mbytes
Integral Ethernet: ec0, version 0
Disk drive: unit 6 on SCSI controller 0
Disk drive: unit 1 on SCSI controller 0
Integral SCSI controller 0: Version WD33C93A
Iris Audio Processor, rev 3
Graphics board: GR1.2 Bit-plane, Z-buffer, Turbo options installed
 
GRAPHICS:
 
IRIS 4D Graphics Inventory (ginv v1.0)
--------------------------------------
Machine: 4DPIT running IRIX version 4.0
1 Screen(s) Accessible on this machine.

Screen Resolution:  1280 x 1024 pixels.
Zbuffer Resolution: 0xFF800000 min  0x7FFFFF max.
No Accumulation Buffer present.
Alpha bitplanes in DoubleBuffered: 0, SingleBuffered: 0
Red   bitplanes in DoubleBuffered: 4, SingleBuffered: 8
Green bitplanes in DoubleBuffered: 4, SingleBuffered: 8
Blue  bitplanes in DoubleBuffered: 4, SingleBuffered: 8
Zbuffer  bitplanes present: 24
Stencil  bitplanes present: 0
Overlay  bitplanes present: 4
PopUp    bitplanes present: 2
Underlay bitplanes present: 4
User-defined Clipping Planes present: 0
antialiased points available in colormap
antialiased points not available in RGB
antialiased lines available in colormap
antialiased lines not available in RGB
antialiased polygons not available in RGB
Number of verticies per polygon allowed: 256.

FUNCTIONS AVAILABLE:
logicop, readsource AUTO/FONT/BACK, readsource ZBUFFER, subpixel points, subpixel lines, subpixel polygons, stereo. 

FUNCTIONS NOT AVAILABLE:
afunction, fogvertex, two-sided lighting, blendfunction, scrbox, texture-mapping, polymode, 64x64 patterns. 
------------------------------------------------------------------------I have followed the configuration notes w.r.t. .cshrc, environment
variables, and file paths.  Have I done something wrong?  In
Editimage these subsystems don't do anything :
    Interactive LUT
    Colormap
    Pseudocolour

Is version 2.0 out yet?  Should I use it instead?

Regards,  
           Mike Thompson
** thompsonmike@crl.aecl.ca [Voice:(613)584-3311 X4043 Fax:(613)584-4269] **

Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: mathew@elroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Mathew Yeates)
Subject: Re: (none)
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 06:32:54 GMT

donna@peabody.eece.unm.edu (Donna Koechner) writes:

>On Nov 30,  8:10am, Thomas D. Sullivan wrote:
>} Subject: 
>} 	To: KHOROS Development Group
>} 	Re: Bugs or is that the way it is supposed to be
>} 
>}   Is their a bug in vstats? I don't seem able to turn off any of the various
>} output options. I only want integral calculated but seem to always get

>The selection of which stats you want in the output file, that you are 
>referring to above, applies only to the VIFF (non ASCII) output file.  To
>control the output, the VIFF output file option needs to be turned on.  
>You can view this data using the Print Data (vprdata) command.


>Donna

Ive mentioned this before but, with 2.0 approaching, perhaps I'll
repost to make sure it gets looked at. vstats will save all of
the statistics or a subset. But in either case, ALL statistics are
computed in lvstats. This should be changed to make the routine
more efficient.

Mathew
From: Peter.Averkamp@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Peter Averkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re:  postscript output of cantata
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:01:48 GMT

> 1.Postscript of the program.
> 
>  I wanted to get a postscript (color) output of the cantata workspace (only)
> with network of glyphs. Does khoros have a routine to do this?
>         If it is not available (which is most likely, since I searched it) it

Wrong! use getimage to produce a viff file from the cantata workspace window,
then vpostscr to print the viff to a postcript file or device. If you cannot
use getimage (doesn't work on all 24-bit screens), use the command 'xwd' that
is is every standard X11-distribution. The resulting xwd-file can be converted
to viff by 'xwdtopnm' from the pbmplus package or to postscript by 'xpr', again
in the standard X11 distribution.

> might worthwhile to be added in the new version.
No need, as it's already there. Having the existing thing work on all 24-bit
screens would be nice, though.

> 2. Label to Glyph
> 
>      In the present version, there is no facility for a user defined label to
> glyph. It is necessary to have this feature especially in large programs.
> I know there is comment glyph, which is not what I wanted.
> Can this be implemented in future versions?

Half wrong. You can do it now, by taking the .pane file of the program 
you want to have a different label and edit the 3rd line from the top.

Example: The file 
    $KHOROS_HOME/repos/cantata/subforms/inputcreate2D/vgconst.pane
    has the all the UI definitions for the routine vgconst. Make a copy of
    it and edit the 3rd line from the top:

-P 1 0 80x38+22+2 +10+0 'Image With Constant Pixel Values' vgconst
                                                           ^^^^^^^
    now put your private label at the marked position:

-P 1 0 80x38+22+2 +10+0 'Image With Constant Pixel Values' prakassh


Now you can start cantata an try your new glyph labels by reading your 
new .pane-files with the 'read UIS' input under the file utilities menu.

I personally don't believe it makes much sense implementing this in future
versions of the regular glyphs, as the string real-estate on the regular 
glyph symbols is very limited. User-composed 'glyphs/mini-panes' are a
whole different story, though.


 Peter Averkamp


P.S.: I don't think it makes much sense bugging Mark Young and John Rasure
      by CC-ing questions like this to them. They read the regular mailing
      list as well and are more than loaded with work on Khoros 2.0. We
      should respect that and try not to put any unnecessary noise on them.
      As the manual and the FAQ suggest, requests for enhancements,etc should
      go to khoros-bugs@chama.eece.unm.edu, not to the main list.



Peter Averkamp,                      | email:
Physics Department E20               | petav@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de
Techn. Univ. of Munich               | Phone: ++49 (89) 3209-2408 and -2814
D-8046 Garching, Germany             | Fax:   ++49 (89) 3209-2338
From: sauer@chama.eece.unm.edu (Tom Sauer)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: khoros matrix filters
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:19:27 GMT

On Dec 16, 15:05, Leslie Gail Adiska wrote:
} Subject: khoros matrix filters
>>  I am running Khoros 1.0 patch level 4 and would like to apply a
>> matrix filter to process an image. The matrix is as follows
>> 
>>              -0.4 | -0.4 | -0.4
>>              ___________________
>>              -0.4 |  4.2 | -0.4
>>              ___________________
>>              -0.4 | -0.4 | -0.4
>> 
>>  Is there a khoros routine to do this kind of processing?
>> 
>>    Thank-You very much,
>>    Leslie Adiska
}-- End of excerpt from Leslie Gail Adiska


To add to Peter`s reply on this, you can also use vcustom to create
your custom filter to be used by vconvolve. Using vcustom bypasses the
step of having to convert your file from ascii to viff.


Tom

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From: Peter.Averkamp@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Peter Averkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re:  khoros on-line help
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:14:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42133

>  When I run run a khoros program such as edit image and I click on
> the help button I get a message stating that the help file was not
> found. How can I correct this problem?

It seems most likely that the directory $KHOROS_HOME/doc is either not
present or at some other path in your installation. In the first case
you need to install the directory, in the latter case it will be most
convenient to place a link named 'doc' in $KHOROS_HOME that points to
the actual location.


Peter Averkamp,                      | email:
Physics Department E20               | petav@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de
Techn. Univ. of Munich               | Phone: ++49 (89) 3209-2408 and -2814
D-8046 Garching, Germany             | Fax:   ++49 (89) 3209-2338
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From: wjbow@math.ksu.edu (Wallace Bow)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Editimage annotate feature has lost its mind
Date: 16 Dec 1992 11:27:12 -0600
Organization: Sandia National Labs, NM
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hilbert.math.ksu.edu
Keywords: editimage boom explodes major X error

Patch 5 for Khoros has introduced an interesting bug.  The annotate facility
in editimage dies with a "Major X error" when attempting to annotate an
image.  This bogosity occurs ONLY on 24 bit/pixel frame buffers.

When annotating the image "by mouse," editimage blows up as soon an you drag
the mouse into any region on the image.   The following post mortem is also
given:

X Error of failed request:  BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
  Major opcode of failed request:  62 (X_CopyArea)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  0
  Resource id in failed request:  0x0
  Serial number of failed request:  2666
  Current serial number in output stream:  2667
Major X error encountered for display 'debbie_gibson:0.0'! Unable to recover.

Annotation "by keyboard" causes the application to go down in flames as
soon as the "CREATE TEXT" button is pressed.

This problem occurs on Sun's GS (24 bit/pixel) board running Open Windows
as well as a VITEC RasterFlex-32 (also 24 b/p) running X11R4.  The problem
did NOT occur on an Sun with a GX (8 bit/pixel) board.  Unfortunately, we
were unable to test any other 24 bit/pixel platforms.

This bug was not in editimage with Khoros patchlevel 4.  Interestingly,
annotate works just fine in xprism2 and the other applications that support
it.

-- 
Wallace J. Bow Jr., wjbow@ceratiidae.cs.sandia.gov, (505) 844-5744

"You really don't even think about it until the parachute opens, then you say,
 'Hey!  I'm going 160 miles per hour!'"		-Me
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: pradeep@engin.umich.edu (Pradeep Jain)
Subject: Camera parameters/ground truth for the stereo images
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:15:00 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

There was some discussion about ground truth or camera parametes 
for the stereo pair images (lableft.xv and labright.xv) sometime 
back. Can I get the ground truth or camera parameters for those 
images. 

Also, are there any other set of stereo images with ground truth 
that I can ftp. I remember this too was discussed on c.s.k and 
s.i.p.

Thanks

Pradeep

-- 

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Home:   (313) 769-2720                    The University of Michigan
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From: fitz@ipld01.hac.com (Melissa T. Fitzgerald)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Undeletable variables?
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:29:22 GMT


I have declared a variable in an "expression" glyph, saved the
workspace, then later deleted the variable and replaced it with
the new one.  When I do a "list" under variables, it says

# currently undefined symbol "variable_name"
  variable_name

When I restore the workspace, I get an xvl_eval_variables error
saying
  function string is = "variable_name"
  Error! Unknow variable or constant 'variable_name' ...

What can I do to prevent this error from coming up every time I
restore the workspace?  It doesn't seem to cause any problems, but
since I have ~ 3 of them, it does get annoying ....

thanks in advance for any suggestions.

tay
hughes missile systems company
canoga park, ca
From: hill@doheny.aero.org
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Locating Users of Khoros
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:03:09 GMT

We are interested in contacting users of Khoros in the Greater Los Angeles area.  We are especially interested in meeting Khoros users at The Aerospace Corporation and neighboring companies in El Segundo, CA (near Los Angeles Airport).  Please send us Email at hill@doheny.aero.org or krikorian@courier2.aero.org, or feel free to call us at the following telephone numbers.  

Phillip C. Hill			Yogi Y. Krikorian
The Aerospace Corporation	The Aerospace Corporation
(310) 336-0715			(310) 336-7771
From: HAN@mpcs.mskcc.org (MPCS)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Drop from Mailing List
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:36:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42194


 
	Please drop me from the mailing list but send  me
	the summaries.
 
	Thanks.
From: donna@peabody.eece.unm.edu (Donna Koechner)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: (none)
Date: 10 Dec 92 02:31:17 GMT

On Nov 30,  8:10am, Thomas D. Sullivan wrote:
} Subject: 
} 	To: KHOROS Development Group
} 	Re: Bugs or is that the way it is supposed to be
} 
}   Is their a bug in vstats? I don't seem able to turn off any of the various
} output options. I only want integral calculated but seem to always get
} everything. When vstats is started in cantata all option buttons are on.
} Save all stats is true and all other stats are false. When executed all
} stats are printed. Change Save ALL stats to false and integral to true. Output
} is the same. Turn off button on save ALL Stats, still get all stats. What
} should I be doing to get only a selected stat? Run vstats from command line
} with -P option. Change state of all stats saved to no, accept no default for
} all other stats except integral set to y. Get all stats printed.
} 

The selection of which stats you want in the output file, that you are 
referring to above, applies only to the VIFF (non ASCII) output file.  To
control the output, the VIFF output file option needs to be turned on.  
You can view this data using the Print Data (vprdata) command.

I'll log this in our "enhancements" file -- when we rewrite the stats 
program for Khoros 2.0, we may change the behavior of the ASCII output.

Donna

} 
} /--------------------\
} |     ________       |
} |     |      |       |
} |     ---    |       |
} |        |   |       | Thomas D. Sullivan           | phone:505-844-7082
} | -------    ------- | Sandia National Laboratories |   
} | |   ___    ___   | | Division - 9133              |   
} | |  _|  |   | |_  | | Albuquerque, NM 87185-5800   | email:
} | |_|    |   |   |_| |                              |  tdsulli@somnet.sandia.gov
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} |        |___|       |
} \____________________/
}-- End of excerpt from Thomas D. Sullivan
From: jogl@merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de (Joachim Glaubrecht  #Alwd#)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: RE: re: Histogram equalization on only parts of an image
Date: 14 Dec 1992 08:06:58 GMT
Organization: Institut f. Med. Statistics @ Dokumentation
NNTP-Posting-Host: merry.imsd.rwth-aachen.de


From: (Tim Keitt)
>>>>
I would like to add another related question to this tread. Is
it possible to equalize an image based on a user defined
sub-set of the image? That is generate a histogram from some
user defined region of the image and apply the equalization to
the *entire* image.
<<<<

hi,
 
here just an idea again:
 
i think the answer is: YES ("anything goes" - remember Indiana Jones
Part II ?  =8-)

the idea is, to extract the region you like, heq it, and convert it
to a 24 Bit-Color Image (3 bands) and back to a 8 bit-image with
a Look-Up table (vgamut i think). you then can transfer this
LUT to other images (vmapxfer).
 
sorry, because Khoros has a LOT of (no to clear) "Look-Up table"-tools,
i can not tell you the exact details.
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Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
From: mnl10@cus.cam.ac.uk (M.N. Landauer)
Subject: 4D Data in Khoros? 
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 17:10:40 GMT

My questions is:

has anyone out there developed an extension to VIFF and khoros that can
handle 4D data? What would be especially brilliant would be if someone has made it
so you can do 4D FFTs, add 4D data-sets and so on. Please, please help me.

Thanks in advance,

Matthew Landauer
Cavendish Labs
Cambridge
England
From: Peter.Averkamp@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de (Peter Averkamp)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re:  khoros matrix filters
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:14:42 GMT

>  I am running Khoros 1.0 patch level 4 and would like to apply a
> matrix filter to process an image. The matrix is as follows

Use vconvolve. Your matrix can be entered by typing it in a file and
converting it to viff through asc2viff.

\Peter

Peter Averkamp,                      | email:
Physics Department E20               | petav@e20.physik.tu-muenchen.de
Techn. Univ. of Munich               | Phone: ++49 (89) 3209-2408 and -2814
D-8046 Garching, Germany             | Fax:   ++49 (89) 3209-2338
From: dave@nimrod.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Dave Edwards)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: (none)
Date: 12 Dec 92 07:23:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42116

When I install 2 routines (A and B) into my toolbox "my_tools", 
they both work fine.  When I install a third (C), C doesn't work.  If I 
then remove B, C works.  What's going on?

There's another funky thing going on:  the routine names in the "my_tools"
subform are ALL highlighted no matter which I click on.

Any ideas?
From: leyva@helios.ece.arizona.edu (Francisco A. Leyva)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Creating a toolbox
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:09:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: pprg.42161


	Hi:

	I am trying to creat a toolbox and someone deleted the file $KHOROS_HOME/repos/config/
toolbox/toolbox.tar
	How can I do it with out it or where do I get it.

Thanks


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From: froussea@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Francine Rousseau)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: information on khoros
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:17:41 GMT


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From: ph@physiology.oxford.ac.uk (Patrick Haggard)
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: vvshape
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:40:56 GMT
Organization: Physiology Department, Oxford University, Oxford, UK.
Originator: ph@galen.physiol


Hi.  I'm using vshape on a roughly rectangular shape.  I can plot
the shape as a cross referred to its principal axes.  Great.  I now
want to know the length of the shape along each of its axes: the
length of the cross corresponds to this, but is it output numerically
anywhere in the output so I can find it exactly?

Thanks
patrick
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From: carla@snidley.eece.unm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.soft-sys.khoros
Subject: Re: Adding Toolbox Routines
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:30:33 GMT

Dave,

>>From: dave@nimrod.idec.sdl.usu.edu (Dave Edwards)
>>
>>When I install 2 routines (A and B) into my toolbox "my_tools", 
>>they both work fine.  When I install a third (C), C doesn't work.  If I 
>>then remove B, C works.  What's going on?
>>
>>There's another funky thing going on:  the routine names in the "my_tools"
>>subform are ALL highlighted no matter which I click on.
>>
>>Any ideas?
>>

You might check that you added the new routines to the subform
with the selected fields set to false.

For example (excerpt from my_tools.sub):
...
-M 1 0 100x40+10+20 +29+1 'My Toolbox Routines' my_tools
-G 1   20x38+1+2 +2+0 'Choose Selection'
-g 1 1 18x1+1+1 'First Routine'
-g 1 0 18x1+1+2 'Second Routine'
-g 1 0 18x1+1+3 'Third Routine'
     ^
_____|

Note - the second and third "-g" lines are "not selected" 

Carla Williams