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Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:29:47 -0500 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Playoffs/the final answer/the Cowboys.

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 28-Dec-92 Playoffs/the
final answer/t.. John@admin1.memst.edu (4838)


>    Kansas City      28
> at San Diego        17

> Backup quarterbacks usually don't get the job done, and this should be
> the case for San Diego.  Kansas City's defense should get the job done
> on the backup QB this week.

Gagliano may be the backup, but he was the starter for the first few
weeks of the season--yeah, those were the games SD lost, but *nobody* on
the offense was really producing then....Humphries just helped
everything click. Also note that while KC has the #1 (I believe) passing
defense, they are about #26 in rushing defense, and with Butts, Bienemy,
Bernstine and Harmon SD is no slouch in the rushing dept! I believe SD
is #1 (or close) in rushing defense in the AFC and about #7 or so in
passing. (is that right?) SD had four players voted to the Pro-Bowl
(Anthony Miller, Leslie O'Neal, Junior Seau and Gil Byrd), all of whom
will be starters. KC had 3: Nick Lowery, Derrick Thomas and Neil Smith,
who is an alternate. The key to this game will be turnovers: if KC can
force Gagliano to turn the ball over a lot, they'll win, but if not, I
don't think they will, although it may be a close game. San Diego needs
this game to get any kind of credibility at all and a little respect
from fans around the league--since Denver ended up 8-8 SD didn't beat a
single team over .500 this year and this is their third shot at KC. The
third time should be the charm.

--Vernon.
From: vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Updated Playoff Schedules...
Date: 3 Jan 93 18:59:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UfFwENW00WDKM1HIsN
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Pit&SF=#1 seed
Mia&Dal=#2 seed
SD&Min=#3 seed [Minnesota is gone]
Buf&NO=#4 seed [NO is gone]
Hou&Phi=#5 seed [Houston is gone]
KC&Was=#6 seed [KC is gone]

AFC: #1,2,3,4 seeds remain
NFC: #1,2,5,6 seeds remain

Pit & SF host the lowest seeded winner of the first round, Miami &
Dallas host the other.

Schedule:
SAT JAN 2:
12:30P EST	Washington @ Minnesota(ABC)
	*Washington 24 Minnesota 7*

4:00P EST	Kansas City @ San Diego(ABC)
	*Kansas City 0 San Diego 17*

SUN JAN 3:
12:30P EST	Houston @ Buffalo(NBC)
	*Houston 38 Buffalo 41*(OT)

4:00P EST	Philadelphia @ New Orleans(CBS)
	*Philadelphia 33 New Orleans 20*

SAT JAN 9:
12:30P EST	Buffalo@Pittsburgh(NBC?)
4:00P EST	Washington@San Francisco(CBS?)

SUN JAN 10:
12:30P EST	Philadelphia@Dallas(CBS?)
4:00P EST	San Diego@Miami(NBC?)

If Buffalo beats Pittsburgh:
Buffalo@SD/Miami

If Pittsburgh beats Buffalo:
SD/Miami@Pittsburgh

If Washington beats SF:
Washington@Philadelphia/Dallas

If SF beats Washington:
Philadelphia/Dallas@SF

Good Luck to everyone and their teams!

--Vernon.
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: Niners Win (Montana is Back - I hope)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:37:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.224732.28016@netcom.com> gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
><1992Dec29.051026.12084@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>>FINAL:  Niners  24  Lions  6
>>Montana stats:  12/15  126 yds  2 TDs
>>Young stats:  12/18  153 yds  0 TDs
>...
>>for his FIRST TD!   Montana received a well deserved
>>ovation from the Candlestick faithful and I can assure 
>>you that the patrons at the MNF game at Charlie Browns
>>were equally ethused!  His performance for 2 quarters was
>>pretty good, I'd say. Two TD's, and 126 yards passing, NO INTs.
>>Better than some QBs did this year playing 4 qtrs and playing
>>all year long!
>
>Also better than that other QB who played the first two quarters.  
>You know, the one being considered for MVP.
>
Do I detect some animosity here Gordon? I made no reference that
Young should get MVP. My post was simply to relate a fact. Hell,
it was on national TV. Your futile attempt to take away from
Montana's accomplishment after 23 months of NOT playing NFL
football is rather childish, but I have learned to expect this
from you and all other Montana/Niner detractors. You are the first
to initate jabs, yet when it is returned, you cry wolf or "Mommy,
he started it!" Waahhhhhhhh! 

 
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
From: mk0e@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MAHEENDRA BABURAO KASMALKAR)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Steve Sewell question
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:45:36 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


Steve Sewell had broken his ankle at 5 places in the preseason.
How is he doing? Is he going to be back this season?

Kassu
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From: Rick <bates_r*Corp_C@msm.cdx.mpt.com>
Subject: Re: MNF announcers about Montana
Organization: Motorola Codex
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:28:18 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

MNF announcers about Montana

Frank was babbling about Atlanta's "Run & Shoot Defense" not being able
to perform against the 49ers.
What was he talking about?
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From: kmews@minnie.imd.nrc.ca
Subject: Fifth Place Schedule - Playoffs
Organization: NRC-Institute for Marine Dynamics
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:31:19 GMT


How often has a team with a fifth place schedule made the playoffs?

Keith Mews
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Hey Ed Lor, Bills 4-0 vs NFC, (another wise guy)
Keywords: dem saints still gonna do it
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:25:22 GMT
Organization: .

BRUCE 'chuck' YAEGER writes:
>>>This game down to which defense was
>>>better, and the Bills showed that they were the better
>>>defense
>> 
>>If you really believe this, you ignorance of what defense means is staggering.
>
>Hey did you watch the game?  I would say from your post that you didn't.
>
>Which team rushed for 180 yards? Answer: Buffalo Bills
>Which team held the opposing team to 48 yards rushing? Answer: Bills
>Which team held the other to 200 yards offense for the game? Answer: Bills
                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I was under the impression (from the Houston Chronicle) that the Bills 
outgained the Saints in total offense 207-205.  [They might have meant
307-205, but still....]  Not clearcut dominance, by any means.


>Sound like pretty good defense stats to me.

Yeah, on both sides.  One stifled the run, one the pass.  Neither
defense _clearly_ outplayed the other.  The Bills won with good
second-half playcalling, coupled with the Saints stinky defensive strategy
and lack of protection for Hebert in the fourth.  

Give it a rest.  Remember what that 1990 late season win in the 
Meadowlands meant in January of '91?   Not to much.

>Bruce, a Bills fan

--J.J.
(nagle, the next namath)
From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Why Can't the AFC teams play NFC style football.
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:53:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.002808.19761@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:
>In article <BzzK32.IAF@ns1.nodak.edu>
>sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder ) writes:
>
>> A recent posting said that the AFC-west plays the NFC-East
>> style of football with a good-D.  
			.
			.
			.
>Whether or not past coaching experiences has any direct bearing on
>today's AFC defenses is, of course, debatable.  Obviously there are a
>few teams mentioned above who's defenses this past season have been
>marginal at best, but IMHO, teams like Buffalo, Pittsburgh, KC, San
>Diego & Seattle are using defensive schemes similar to those employed
>by successful NFC teams (recent-past and present) like the 49er's,
Also Cleveland, Houston, and the Raiders,
with more or less success.
>Eagles, Bears, Giants & the Saints.  I feel that inconsistency (both
>offensively and defensively) and key injuries have prevented most of
>these AFC teams from establishing what can be considered 'dominating'
>defenses.  The defenses of teams like Seattle and Indianapolis
>frequently look bad in a game because their offense is bogus.  The D
What *does* Indianapolis do on defense?
I understand they're not particularly
yielding, but I've heard no details all
year.
>tires from spending too much time on the field and sometimes gets
>burned when gambling on big plays to overcome the lack of offense.  Key
			.
			.
			.
-- 

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From: danp@sabre.bellcore.com (Daniel Pomplun)
Subject: Re: Detailed Playoff Picture [LONG]
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 17:25:16 GMT

>   >Kansas City (9-6)  Denver
>   >
>   >	win & SD win & Miami loss &
>   >	  points(Miami-NE)+32 > points(KC-Denver)	- WC2
>
>   In this scenario, shouldn't be taken into account also the outcome
>   of Buffalo@Houston game? If Houston wins, shouldn't be Houston
>   be WC2 and Kansas City WC3?
>
>   In fact, Miami, Houston and KC will be tied at 10-6. Houston is
>   initially left out because of conference record and Miami gets WC1
>   having better net points than KC.  After that, Houston re-enters
>   the picture and beats out KC for WC2 (head-to-head OT win back in
>   September).
>
>i think this is not the case because the tie-breaker works in reverse,
>meaning houston falls out of the tie-breaker at the comparison of conference
>records, and thus ends up with the third wild-card place, 
>though you have a good point.


I originally read this scenario as Houston being WC3.  After re-reading
the tiebreaker rules, I'm now of the opinion that Houston would be WC2,
and KC would be WC3.

The rules state that in the three-way comparison, Houston falls out.  But
nothing says that their position is set.  In fact, the rules explicitly
state that after Miami becomes WC1 over KC, "the other returns to [the]
original group and Step 1 of [the] applicable tiebreaker".

I now believe that reverse application of tie-breaker rules only
eliminate teams from the set of teams currently being examined, and
after the top team is selected, all of the remaining teams in contention
start from scratch.  (Of course, for WC ties, the first (unwritten)
tie-breaker is to limit examination to the best applicable team from
each division.)


Anyone else have an opinion on this one?


Daniel Pomplun, Bellcore, danp@sabre.bellcore.com
Phone:  (908) 758-2740  Fax: (908) 758-4268
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: Eagles-Aints
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:44:00 GMT

In article <1i87elINN5df@shelley.u.washington.edu> rrn@stein.u.washington.edu (X Visser) writes:
>Dump Hebert? 
>Not!
>
>Get to the source, and dump Mora. Every time I have ever watched him coach
>a close game in the fourth, he'd call some boneheaded, dumbass play and lose
>it for them. Now, this isn't always bad (for me), but when they toss a game to
>the hated 69ers, I really get ill. Though to be honest, losing that way to
>the Falcons last year was a real (if expected) treat.
>
I agree with you that Mora has been quilty of some bonehead calls or
non-calls at critcal times. However, in this game, it was Hebert's
inability to scramble and or find a receiver. Hebert's panic botton mode
was on red alert and he made some dumb mistakes and they were
critical mistakes resulting in scoring by the Eagles.
>
>Get someone else to call the offensive plays, since I don't think he'll 
>actually lose his job, or if nothing else, have someone else call them in the
>last quarter unless they are up by, say, at least 11 points.
>
Even if Mora call the right calls, ultimately, the execution depends
on the QB and Hebert has clearly shown he is NOT capable of coming
through in big time games. Time to get rid of Hebert and probably
Mora as well IMHO.
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
From: jmelcher@polisci.umn.edu (James Melcher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Promised congrats to Vikes from Packer fan
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:02:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota


	I wrote in a post last week that I would be happy to congratulate 
the Vikings and their fans if they won the Central Division.  I 
believe I'm a man of my word, so I will swallow some pride (hey, I'm a 
Packer fan- I've had to before) and tip my green and gold hat to the 
Vikings. As I wrote last week- you have a classy new coach and a bright 
future- and I feel the same way about the Packers.  There should be some 
interesting Black 'n Blue division races in the future, and I'm sincerely 
happy for you and my friends who are disciples of the Purple Reign.  

Gulp.  

Now, that wasn't too bad- though it is easier and a whole lot more fun to be 
gracious in victory than in defeat...:-)  i just hope we get to join you in 
the playoffs (which means, in turn, that I hope the Giants and Raiders are 
REAL well motivated this weekend...)  I'll be watching Sunday's game back 
home in Madison, where I can root more loudly without being stared at than I 
can here...:-)

Happy holidays,
Jim Melcher
"Your friendly neighborhood Packer fan in Saint Paul"
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Raiders vs. Redskins (CBS' unprofessionalism)
Keywords: toast
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:30:47 GMT
Organization: .

(Huett Bishop) writes:
>>>I thought that NFL football
>>>coverage was supposed to be unbiased. I guess I was wrong. This was a very
>>>unprofessional move by CBS.
>
>Unbiased? HAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
>
>Just watch Monday Night Football's pre-game, it is very easy to see which
>team Frank, Al, and Dan want to win.

My favorite quote from Monday Night:  
   With SF leading 10-6, Montana et al. inside the Lions 20, Dierdork
spouts off, "I'd just like to see a TD pass so I can see him put those
two fists up in the air.  And you Detroit fans, don't think we're
playing favorites by saying that.  Heck, I'm sure _you_ want to see that,
too."

What an idiot!

I won't even get into the drivel about how the football from Amp Lee's TD
pass from Montana with be bronzed and in Lee's trophy case.  His most
prized possession, give me a break.

--J.J.
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From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Humble Defensive Backs [was Re: Over-rated players???]
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:30:57 GMT

In article <63090@mimsy.umd.edu> sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph Smith) writes:
			.
			.
			.
>However, I will present Rod Woodson of the Pittsburgh Steelers as an
>example of a good defensive back who isn't cocky, or who at least doesn't
>show it on the field.
>
>Rod will make an interception, run it back as ferociously as he can, and
>then calmly toss the ball to a ref and walk off the field.
>
>Anyone who doesn't bleed black and gold want to back me up on this?
			.
			.
			.
When did PU go from being the college of quarterbacks
(Dawson, Griese, Phipps, ...) to the generator of *very*
fast, very athletic, tough-minded football players (note
that Mel Gray also richly deserves his All-Pro status)?
-- 

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From: caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Predictions - So how did you do?
Date: 29 Dec 1992 17:53:41 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

	
	Did anyone else save their predictions made at the start of the
	season? How did you guys do? Here was my prediction made July 2
	about the NFC Central -

	Team		Pick		Actual
	1. Minnesota	10-6		11-5
	2. Green Bay	 9-7		 9-7
	3. Detroit	 8-8		 5-11
	4. Tampa Bay     7-9		 5-11
	5. Chicago	 6-10		 5-11

	I did pretty well, I went with my heart on the Vikings, half luck
	and half prayer, I knew Holmgrem would be good for the Packers,
	and I also got the drop in Detroit correctly, just didnt realize
	it would be such a big drop. So did other do? :)

	GOOD LUCK TO ALL IN THE PLAYOFFS....

	Mark
	GO VIKINGS!
-- 
Minnesota Vikings	11-5	NFC Central Division Champions 1992-93!

Gannon back in the pocket, DRAW to Allen, Allen bursts up the middle,TOUCHDOWN!
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From: labelle@hfglobe.intel.com (George La Belle)
Subject: Re: Playoffs: Philly at NewOrleans
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:58:51 GMT

kschnitz@encore.com (Kevin Schnitzius) writes:

>>I was just wondering how some of you people out side of the New Orleans 
>>area perceive the Saints as a team and their offense in particular.

	SUCK! Hebert is a mental mouse. Go after him, and he'll put
	it up for grabs! I think the Eagles will win in a tough match.
	Mora should give it up too - he can't win in the playoffs.
	Hebert is the key - rattle him. 

>6.  Coaching.  Give the Saints the edge all the way.  

	Somebody is worse than Moron???

>  While the Saints defense is slightly better that the Eagles
>defense (gasp!), the Eagle offense is much better than the Saints offense
>and is extremely versatile and hard to shut down completely.

	Correct, Eagles by 7, at least.
From: amr2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ANTHONY MICHAEL RUTCH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Buffalo SuperBowl
Date: 21 Dec 92 18:30:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Dec21.085931.28957@math.ucla.edu>, rfedkiw@olympic.math.ucla.edu
 (Ronald Fedkiw) writes:
Buffalo will go

>1992 season: Division, AFC Champion, Superbowl
>1993 season: Division, AFC Champion, Superbowl
>1994 season: Division, AFC Champion, Superbowl, Undefeated 19-0
>1995 season: Division, AFC Champion, Superbowl, Undefeated 19-0
>
>How's that for the prediction.
>
>And Pitt will go:
>1992 season: 10-6
>1993 season:  7-9
>1994 season:  4-12
>1995 season:  1-15
>1996 season:  0-16
>1997 season:  0-16
>1998 season:  0-16
>1999 season:  0-16
>2000 season:  0-16, fold at end of year, will move to Japan

KNOCK IT OFF!!!!            GROW UP A LITTLE!!!!
BILLS AIN'T GOING ANYWHERE. IF ANYONE OTHER THAN THE STEELERS SHOULD WIN THE
AFC IT WILL BE ANOTHER CALIFORNIA TEAM SUCH AS THE CHARGERS WHO HAVE NOT
SUFFERED TOO MUCH SUN LIKE YOUR BRAIN MUST HAVE SUFFERED.  GET A LIFE.  MERRY
CHRISTMAS TO YOU. NOT!
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From: holly@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Holly Wise)
Subject: Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON)
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 23:14:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.220035.19884@novell.com> barrey@Novell.com (Barrey Jewall) writes:


>Well, come Monday Night Football, in a game that means nothing,
>Joe will play "2 or 3 quarters" and then we'll see how his elbow looks...

>This from the mouth of one "George Seifert", reputed to be the 
>head coach of some team that now HAS THE BEST FREAKING RECORD IN THE NFL!!!


Yes, and I hope Joe makes 1 great big, wonderful comeback and shows everyone 
that he's still one hellofa quarterback.

GO NINERS!  SHOW EM JOE!  (Hopefully he'll get 1st stringers to play with)
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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: offensive statistics, week 16
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:47:42 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX


		       yardage		    rank
team		total	rush	pass	rush	pass
----------------------------------------------------
San Francisco	5834	2217	3617	2	3
Buffalo 	5656	2289	3367	1	4
Houston 	5370	1521	3849	17	1
Dallas  	5252	1942	3310	6	5
Miami   	5170	1411	3759	24	2
San Diego	4880	1777	3103	10	8
Chicago 	4849	1843	3006	8	11
Philadelphia	4684	2191	2493	3	23
LA Rams 	4601	1491	3110	19	7
Pittsburgh	4598	2051	2547	4	22
Washington	4595	1628	2967	14	13
Green Bay	4575	1527	3048	16	10
New Orleans	4526	1533	2993	15	12
Atlanta 	4460	1188	3272	27	6
Minnesota	4452	1865	2587	7	20
Tampa Bay	4351	1676	2855	12	14
NY Jets 	4259	1697	2562	11	21
Phoenix 	4224	1371	2853	26	15
Detroit 	4213	1505	2708	18	18
Cleveland	4199	1487	2712	20	17
NY Giants	4187	2010	2177	5	25
Denver  	4140	1415	2725	23	16
Kansas City	4104	1472	2632	21	19
Indianapolis	4070	1010	3060	28	9
LA Raiders	4002	1646	2356	13	24
Cincinnati	3625	1779	1846	9	27
New England	3305	1373	1932	25	26
Seattle 	3016	1440	1576	22	28

----
Daniel Welch
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: 49ers/Cowboys :QB problems? Thoughts?
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:43:04 GMT

In article <1hqee0INNhb9@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> hlee@unixg.ubc.ca (Henry Lee) writes:

   In article <1992Dec29.144258.4776@admin1.memst.edu> jasmith@admin1.memst.edu (John) writes:
   >      I watched the 49ers game Monday night against Detroit. Barry Sanders
   >      looked good, he rushed for 100+ yards.  I'm not a Barry Sanders fan,
   >      either.  But am curious about the 49ers defensive.  How do you 
   >      49er fans think your defensive matchs up with the Cowboys.  Do you think
   >      Sanders had a great day or an average day against the 49ers?  How do 
   >      you think they'll do against Emmitt Smith?  Do you think he'll run
   >      loose through your secondary like Sanders did?

   If I remember corrrectly, the ABC MNF guys said during the game that
   the 49ers rated "3rd" in the NFL in rush defense and
   "27th" in pass defense.

The argument that I've heard this week is that people fall behind to the
niners so they move from the run to the pass, thus the disparity.  This might
make sence, since the Lions didn't fall behind (letting me ignore one point)
until the fourth quarter, and they rushed much better than they passed.
Several of Andre's passes looked extremely lame.

Bill
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From: metv@triton.unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: 10 reasons why the Raiders suck
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 23:15:10 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Dec18.145903.3233@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
>
>
>
>   BEING A FAN OF ANY TEAM IS BETTER THAN BEING A RAIDERS FAN!! :)
>-- 

NOT !!!!!!!!!!
From: garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:36:53 GMT
Subject: Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON)
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>(Gary Strand) / 12:40 am  Dec 20, 1992 /

>  If a team favored by ~3 TDs can just barely beat a turd 4-10 team, they 
>  don't deserve to be in the NFL.

Then where do the AFC *conference champions*, who have not only lost the
SB the last 8 years but in six of those years got their sorry butts
whipped like a high school team, belong?

- Gary Rosen
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