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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Gosh, is it Guy Fawke's Night already?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 18:38:00 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
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In article <720941766snx@redunser.demon.co.uk>, mtemplar@redunser.demon.co.uk (Alan Ralph) writes:
>Anyhow she was in need of a good chin-wag, cos having no mail left her
>feeling very isolated :-( also, they're making redundancies at the place
>where she's working now, which doesn't help much.

For those of you who speak American, rather than British, English, and who
might not've run across the term before, "making redundancies" == "laying
people off."
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Invisible Feathers
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:08:46 GMT

Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there (olson@husc8.harvard.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Nov10.202927.7153@data-io.com> li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus) writes:
: 
: >"Drat." she says, rubbing the water out of her eyes, and then looks around
: >at the Callahan's folks.  "I couldn't find it.  Could someone post the
: >mail addresses by which someone can post to a group by mail, again?  I
: >know that they were in Nick's intro to the Place, but I don't have them
: >anymore, as I don't use 'em anymore.  Folks could use that if they have
: >email."
: 
: If I recall correctly, it's newsgroup_name@ucb.berkeley.edu, replacing 
: the .'s in the name with _'s, so in our case, alt_callahans@ucb.berkeley.edu
: would get here.

"I recalled that it would be alt-callahans@ucbvax.berkeley.edu; '-' instead of
'_', and ucbvax instead of ucb.  But I could be wrong, too."

--
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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: korz@startide.ctr.columbia.edu (Frederick Korz)
Subject: Re: 'Twas a Dark and Stormy Night ...
Followup-To: alt.callahans
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:01:03 GMT
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In article <1992Nov6.010417.20306@ttinews.tti.com> hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath) writes:
>In article <1992Nov2.180536.761@nntp.uoregon.edu> JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason)) writes:
>}(Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:
>}>(The Didi-Sprite) writes:
>
>}>>In fact, the only appliance is an enormous open hearth.
>
>}>"Make steel?"
>
>}... there isn't any coke here ...
>
>Pepsi?
>
Uh, yeah,
... riiiight,
... u-huh.                                                :-)


Fred Korz			450 Computer Science Building
korz@cs.columbia.edu		Columbia University
(212) 939-7068			NY, NY  10027 (USA)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:40:53 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
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In article <1992Nov10.152019.17861@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey) writes:
="Excuse me, StM?  I seem to recall seeing several posts in here from 'Stalker
=in the past few months that >didn't< concern religion.  They were, in fact,
=more concerned with love, and other things.  I'm sure that Nightstalker has
=been trying >very hard< not to say any bad words in alt.callahans that might
=annoy StM, but these just slipped out.  Or maybe he just felt pride at getting
=something published, and wanted to share it with us, even if the subject matter
=therein might upset one or two of the patrons.  Ya think?"

I was going to let his post go without comment until I ran across this example
of his bigotry:
	Secondly, on a simple level, what relevance are the great discoveries of
	science on a day to day personal level.  When a woman is being pack
	raped, does it matter that elctrons repel one another?
Once again we see the implication that some Christians are so fond of:  That
Christians have a lock on morality.  I couldn't let a post with something like
that in it go unanswered.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Thyra))
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Amulets
Followup-To: alt.callahans
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:29:27 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Distribution: world
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In article <OLSON.92Nov10234109@husc8.harvard.edu>, olson@husc8.harvard.edu
(Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there) wrote:
> 
> >JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Thyra)) writes:
> >
> >>She takes out another amulet and puts it on, and offers others to Susan,
> >>Liralen and Bear. "Does anybody else want a protective amulet? All it does
> >>is make messy stuff rebound on the caster. But these things -won't- stop
> >>peanuts or other stuff that won't hurt or mess up the wearer."
> 
> "Will they stop fungus and dairy products?  Been hungering for a mushroom
> and cheese amulet lately..."

Thyra wrinkles her nose at Chip's pun. "Only of they're thrown at you. Of
course, we could give an amulet to Phoenix. Then you could toss a bowlful
of eggs and 'shrooms at her. They ought to get just close enough to her
firey plumage to cook nicely into a zero-gee omlet before flying back to
you. Gee, is that what you want?"

Purrs,
Thyra
.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Repost: SJ Pizza Party
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:42:28 GMT
Reply-To: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com (Rowan Fairgrove)
Organization: RICOH California Research Center


 A while back at the Place there was a discussion
of the One True Pizza.  Folx advocated the joys
of their particular path, be it mushrooms or
pepperoni or goat cheese and pesto.

SEA and Gypsy Woman are hosting a feast
to give the Bay Area Callahaners a chance to
advocate their favorites and try the favorites
of other folx.

THE DEAL:  Each participant should bring
enough of their One True Topping to make
a sample pizza.  Another dish or beverage
would also be appreciated.  Gypsy will
buy an appropriate number of plain cheese
pizzas from u-bake.  We will nosh pizza
until all One True combos have been tried
to the satisfaction of the participants.  (If
there are those whose One True pizza 
requires a whole wheat crust or some such,
negotiate with Gypsy who is willing to make
*some* scratch crusts.)  Depending on the
number of pizzas blanks bought from u-bake,
a small donation may be requested.

LOCATION:  751 E. St. James, San Jose.
(This is the lavendar polychrome Victorian
on the corner of 16th and St. James.)
Rowan's home phone: (408) 294-2843
In the case of nice weather, festivities will
be in the backyard (off 16th St).  In the case
of rain, festivities will be indoors.  

WHEN:  November 14, 1992. 3:00 p.m. until.  

RSVP's should be sent to SEA.

P.S. A little known fact of pizza lore is that pizzas
can be barbequed.  If someone has a Weber
grill (with cover) who would like to make this
mystery available, please contact Rowan (Gypsy
Woman).


Stephanie Alford <lunisea@netcom.com>
Rowan Fairgrove <rowanf@crc.ricoh.com>

Rowan Fairgrove
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca  (The Didi-Sprite)
Subject: Re: Invisible Feathers
Originator: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:19:21 GMT


Poor Feather!  McGill has been having have problems with both its
mail and news servers lately.  In order to circumvent the news-
server difficulty, I have adopted a suggestion sent me by our
Nick Chopper.  I have been emailing my small (?!?) contributions
to:

alt.callahans-news@newsbase.cs.yale.edu

So far this method has worked for me.  Although it does take a couple
of days for my efforts to reach my own site!!!

Anyway, Featherluv ... give this a try!

*Hugs*  all!

The Didi-Sprite
Montreal * Canada

braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Gasoline Taxes - What they are in Aus!
Date: 7 Nov 1992 09:40:20 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <BxArMp.6wA@newcastle.ac.uk>, Adrian.Waterworth@newcastle.ac.uk (Adrian Waterworth) writes:
>[*] I seem to recall, back when petrol was about 1.80 a gallon, that
>	the government tax accounted for maybe 1.30 of this. This would
>	set the direct rate of taxation (at the petrol pumps) at about
>	72%. Neat, huh?

Actually, tax rates are usually specified in terms of percentage of the
before-tax cost, so you're talking about a tax rate of 260%.
From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Speed of US Snail
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 23:12:02 PST
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

Once took a letter 3 weeks to go to PO Box in the building I mailed
it in.



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From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: illuminati
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:28:12 GMT



>Kitten writes:

>> "did you all realize our new president, a rhodes scholar and former
>> student of (the name escapes me but he was a georgetown u. prof and
>> accused illuminati) is one of "them"....of course we are not cleared
>> for that information }:)."

>I really wish someone would come up with some significant proof of
>this.  I've heard, time and time again, that the Bavarian Illuminati
>are ruling the United States between the Masons and a bunch of college
>secret societies.  Thing is, I just don't see any reason to believe
>this.  Why does everyone want to believe there's a conspiracy?  What's
>with this... this... this... paranoia?
> 
>Can someone provide with one... just ONE.. piece of acceptable
>evidence that might convince me that this group even exists?  And, no,
>I won't accept the dollar bill argument.

>  "Trust no one!  Keep your laser handy!"
> 

"would you believe robert shea?"

}:)....kitten
grins

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"love is the wild card of existance"
                          rita mae brown
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
From: olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there)
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:55:19
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.
In-reply-to: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU's message of 10 Nov 92 16:40:53 GMT

In article <1doomlINNrel@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.152019.17861@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey) writes:
>="Excuse me, StM?  I seem to recall seeing several posts in here from 'Stalker
>=in the past few months that >didn't< concern religion.  They were, in fact,
>=more concerned with love, and other things.  I'm sure that Nightstalker has
>=been trying >very hard< not to say any bad words in alt.callahans that might
>=annoy StM, but these just slipped out.  Or maybe he just felt pride at getting
>=something published, and wanted to share it with us, even if the subject matter
>=therein might upset one or two of the patrons.  Ya think?"
>
>I was going to let his post go without comment until I ran across this example
>of his bigotry:
>	Secondly, on a simple level, what relevance are the great discoveries of
>	science on a day to day personal level.  When a woman is being pack
>	raped, does it matter that elctrons repel one another?
>Once again we see the implication that some Christians are so fond of:  That
>Christians have a lock on morality.  I couldn't let a post with something like
>that in it go unanswered.

Huh? I utterly fail to grasp the connection between the cited passage and
the inference you draw from it.  The article is centered around Judeo-
Christian religion, to be certain, but that's because it's *about* Western
science vis-a-vis Judeo-Christianity.  The fact that it does not address,
for the most part, other religions and scientific traditions does *not*
imply bigotry on the part of the author.  
--
-Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@{gnu.ai,silver.lcs}.mit.edu 
"Yes, to dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free, silhouetted
by the sea, circled by the circus sands, with all memory and fate driven deep 
beneath the waves; let me forget about today until tomorrow"  -Bob Dylan.

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Subject: Re: FOOD FIGHT !!! (Re: Oh Yeah)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1992 03:07:27 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <JBrandt-061192085545@aaa.uoregon.edu> JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Thyra)) writes:
>She takes out another amulet and puts it on, and offers others to Susan,
>Liralen and Bear. "Does anybody else want a protective amulet? All it does
>is make messy stuff rebound on the caster. But these things -won't- stop
>peanuts or other stuff that won't hurt or mess up the wearer."

The Net.diety respondeth: "Do they stop flames?  I seem to have a sudden
need for flamage protection."  (Not *here* mind you, but I do need it.)

Big Al.  Flame Warrior.
From: pechever@phakt.usc.edu (Paul Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
Date: 12 Nov 1992 23:54:06 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov13.004133.12779@ucc.su.OZ.AU> pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker) writes:
[The celebratory crashing of people toasting TGG drowns out some stuff]
]The Nightstalker pokes his head from round a VR corner.  
]"I was actually think of retitling it Christianity and science.  Perhaps
]I should have.  My problem with eastern systems is that I see them more
]as ideologies (and I think that is probably fair for most of them?  asking
]here for correction).  I was pushing a point of course, and I did think it
]was a fair article and was looking for comments from my VR "friends", a term
]I don't know how far to stretch."
]
]The Nightstalker wears a puzzled look.
]
]"Did I offend Stm yet again?  Pardon me for simply exercising freedom of
]speech.  As it is, I didn't know because since my last flaming at his hands,
]I simply do not read his posts."
]
]The Nightstalker disappears into the bathroom (toilet really, but most of
]you *are* Americans), and reappears in another on of his flame-proof suits
]and a stupid grin (DM and Shonias know what it looks like in RL, just use
]your imagination).
]
]"I have had constructive comments from some, complements from others.  As
]for flames (accent on) Go Ahead Make My Day (accent off).  To freedom of
]speech."
]
]<crash] 
[large, ugly sig deleted]
Impu-Sebek takes a sip from his Vesper, which has finally arrived.
"Good as any I've ever had, Mike.  Thanx."
"Y'know, Nightstalker, there _are_ more religions than Christianity and
what you conveniently lump under "Eastern systems"".  A small tongue of fire
licks out from the baliset's belly and lovingly touches the foot of Night-
stalker's suit.
"Christianity and Science does make more sense (in as much as the article 
makes sense) since it openly admits it's about a religion that specifically
opposes growth and has done so since its inception."
Looking down, Impu-Sebek is struck by vertigo as he sees the enormous size of
the soapbox that has materialized under his feet.  He jumps down nimbly and
proceeds to disassemble the soapbox, feeding it to the fireplace.
"Just thought I'd mention that.  Avoid the either/or fallacy.  Not that there
aren't fallacies enough in Christianity to choose from..." 
Impu-Sebek jumps hastily away from another burgeoning soapbox, and settles 
down to finish his damn drink.
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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: roseanne
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:54:48 GMT

kitten gets another drink from the bar.  "i blush to admit, but i am a
vidiot.  i don't watch a lot of t.v....and sometimes i only watch
because it is on...but i am a big fan of the show "roseanne".  i
actually think dan and roseanne represent mr. and mrs. middle
america...or maybe i am just warped and they only represent my family! :)

in any case, last night the show boldly went where most sitcoms have
never gone...they revealed that one of their major supporting
characters is a lesbian.  and it was great...hysterically funny and
very sensitively done, in roseanne's crude sort of way.

of course, nancy isn't even the first gay character on the
show...roseanne's ex-boss (martin mull) was brought in specifically as
a gay character.  having nancy reveal herself as gay, after she has
been on the show for a long time (she is dan's friend arny's ex-wife)
was great...they blew the hell out of stereotypes without making a big
deal of the situation.  at one point nancy confessed that she wasn't
sure she should tell roseanne and jackie, because she wasn't sure how
they would react... roseanne responded "probably the way we always do
when you tell us personal stuff.  made fun of you till it got old then
moved on to something else."

and, fyi, nancy isn't the first lesbian in a prime time sit-com...the
first that i remember was edith bunker's cousin...liz the les...and
her "roommate"   which was 20 years ago!"

kitten takes a drink of her beer...."to a time when having gay
characters on t.v. won't be a big enough deal to mention!"

and the glass goes into the fireplace with a satisfying crash.

--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"love is the wild card of existance"
                          rita mae brown

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: alaric@sti.com (The Renaissance Man)
Subject: Re: Democracy
Organization: Software Transformation, Inc.
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:12:04 GMT

Doug Quarnstrom writes:
] e elizabeth bartley writes:
] > Doug Quarnstrom writes:
] > >Unfortunately we have yet to see if Democracy is tenable.
] > >The history of America is not very long, and it is only relatively
] > >recently that we have come anywhere close to realizing democracy.
] > 
] > Beth pipes up from her pile of soapboxes: "It's recently that we've
] > come close to unlimited democracy; we've had limited democracy since
] > the country began."
] 
] Yes, Beth, that is really what I meant.  But I also mean that
] it is only recently that we have begun to really live up to
] the rhetoric of freedom that is contained in our constitution
] and bill of rights.


Alaric chokes for a moment, an unfortunate consequence of accidentally
trying to inhale his mead.

"Only recently begun to live up to the rhetoric of freedom?" he splutters,
then pauses for a moment to clear his throat and catch his breath.

"I'm sorry, but I have a *really* hard time accepting that statement.  The
 last thirty-five years or so - and *particularly* the last twelve - have
 seen more erosion of constitutional freedoms, more systematic undermining
 of the Bill of Rights, than the whole of the rest of U.S. history.
"Granted, we've made big strides in civil rights.  But if you take a step
 forward with your right foot, and a step back with your left - or perhaps
 the other way around, considering which political schools are mostly
 responsible for each - you wind up in pretty much the same place you
 started out, overall."


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From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Thyra))
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: RAPTURE
Followup-To: alt.callahans
Date: 7 Nov 1992 00:31:50 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon, Architecture
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aaa.uoregon.edu

In article <UeyfNSy00aw=Qp5UYL@andrew.cmu.edu>, Mark Beirne Lively
<ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu> wrote:
> Hmm Could they be buying salvation.  "Every penny in the plate is a
> minute less you wait"  Salvation for Sale.  I can see an entire industry
> here give us your money and we will garuntee salvation.  It you are not
> perfectly satisfied with your afterlife come to us for a full refund
> plus 10%.  (sorry no relatives or proxies)  Or even better you could
> start your own religion.  Thew worship of me.  get followeres adn a
> building and crib some passages from other holy books.  You'll make a
> killing.
> 
> 	:)  for the sarcasm impaired.  I Really am a very religious person but
> the hypocrits get to me.  If you are going to be taking peoples money,
> be honest about it. 
> 


Thyra pauses a moment and says thoughtfully, "Well, that's what L. Ron
Hubbard did with Scientology and Dianetics. First he wrote a book called
'How to make a million dollars' which basicly said 'create your own
religion'. Then a few years later, he went out and did it. The rest is the
history of a multi-million dollar con game that's still pulling in poor
saps and taking their money, long after he died."
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