From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.german
Subject: Just For The Sake Of Discussion, I Will Omit All Other Massacres,...
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:45:00 GMT


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zxmkr08@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Cornelius Krasel)

>>It is sickening to think that
>>the human race is capable of such actions, but there is no
>>denying the fact that the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million
>>Muslims happened. And the justice is long overdue.

>Since the Osmanische Reich was ally of Germany and Austria in WWI, parts of
>it thereafter were occupied by the Allies. (Murders of Turks by Armenians
>are not mentioned, but have taken place.) 1919 an independent Armenian
>country was founded. 

Couldn't let this one go by. Just for the sake of discussion, I will 
omit all other massacres and atrocities committed by the Armenians 
against the Turkish civilian population during the numerous wars 
and war-like activities between 1914-20 and limit my comparison only 
to the activity of the Armenian government between the Armistice and 
the last Turco-Armenian War in 1921 to that little more than two-year 
period when Armenia was a recognized independent sovereign state and 
a state of peace between Turkey and Armenia was existing.

I will leave aside all the savagery and massacres of Armenians, Armenian
irregular bands, and the Armenian Army, but will just mention to you the
greatest of all their endless crimes.

The two years of their independence was the only time in which they had
complete political control upon their alien population. The entire Turkish
population of Armenia (which they called Tartars) constituted at least about
40% of the total population of Armenia was deliberately exterminated. (For
the population statistics, please look to the book of Richard Hovannessian,
"Armenia on the Road to Independence.) I listed three books earlier of such
a monstrous crime by the writings of one Armenian, one American, and one
British. They are: "Men Are Like That" by Leonard A. Hartill; "Adventures
in the Near East, 1918-22" by A. Rawlinson; "World Alive, A Personal
Story" by Robert Dunn. Also, I personally have copies of documents of this 
crime by the writings of two Armenians and also one American. The official 
British report about this massacre mentioned in one of these documents 
(Lord Curzon-Aharonin interview) is the report of the British High 
Commissioner to Caucasia, Sir Oliver Wardrop.

By Rachel A. Bortnick 

"A more appropriate analogy with the Jewish Holocaust might be the
 systematic extermination of the entire Muslim population of the 
 independent republic of Armenia (which lasted from 1918 to 1921),
 which consisted of at least 30-40 percent of the population of that
 republic. The memoirs of an Armenian army officer who participated 
 in and eye-witnessed these atrocities was published in the U.S. in
 1926 with the title 'Men Are Like That.' Other references abound."

The following is a partial list of the references on the Armenian 
genocide of 2.5 million Muslims (in English).

 1."Men Are Like That" by Leonard A. Hartill, Bobbs Co., Indianapolis, 
   1926

   Memoirs of an Armenian Army Officer translated to English and
   published by a member of American "Near East Relief Organization."
   Gives the whole account of the genocide of all Turkish and Moslem
   people in Armenia organized and executed by Armenian Government and
   Army. Also gives account of countless other massacres and atrocities
   against the Turkish people in Armenia.

 2."Adventures in the Near East, 1918-22" by A. Rawlinson,
   Dodd, Meade & Co., 1925

   Eyewitness account of the same genocide by a British Army Officer.

 3."World Alive, A Personal Story" by Robert Dunn,
   Crown Publishers, Inc., New York, 1952

   Another eyewitness account of the same genocide by an American 
   Officer.

 4."From Sardarapat to Serves and Lousanne" by Avetis Aharonian,
   The Armenian Review Magazine, Volume 15 (Fall 1962) through 17 
   (Spring 1964)

   Memoirs of the chief Armenian delegate to the Paris Peace Conference
   were published in the Armenian Review Magazine in 13 articles from
   Volume 15 (Fall 1962) to Volume 17 (Spring 1964). These memoirs 
   include an interview between Aharonian and British Foreign Minister 
   Lord Curzon in which above-mentioned genocide was discussed. The 
   official report mentioned by Lord Curzon is the report of British 
   High Commissioner to Caucasia, Sir Oliver Wardrop.

Need I go on?

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
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