From: dsembr01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Darren S. Embry)
Subject: Re: Poseur Bands
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:26:06 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In <cfM6OOK00awBQ0vGdp@andrew.cmu.edu> Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Anthrax-
>	As has been pointed out, Kiss is probably the favorite band of this
>group or at least of Scott Ian (who also listens to rap. Arrrggghhhh!
>Everyone knows black people can't produce good music. We have the word

YOU JUST NULLIFIED YOUR CREDIBILITY RIGHT THERE, YOU MORONIC RACIST
SCUM-WAD!  Ever heard of Jimi Hendrix.  Just in case you're not really as up
on metal music as you thought you were (and apparently you're not!) he was
black, okay?  You may have heard of Living Colour, also.  

>of Sauron that rap sucks). This band did a cover of Kiss's Parasite and
>also did a song with Public Enemy. Thus not a real metal band

Okay, I'll use your "he listens to rap -> he's a poser" mentality (isn't
mentality an oxymoronic term?) against you.  Public Enemy's doing a song
with Anthrax (which can be implied by saying that Anthrax did a song with
Public Enemy).  Shouldn't you be saying that they're not rap?

>S.O.D.
>	I am including this group here mainly because they did a Nirvana cover
>tune on their Live at Budokan album. Also this group features Scott Ian
>(see Anthrax above). They also did a Joan Baez cover tune on Speak
>English or Die (Diamonds and Rust). Yuck! Not a metal band.

Okay, let's say New Fags on the Block decided to cover "Jump In The Fire!"
New Kids on the Block wouldn't be a poser band anymore, because they did a
non-poser song.  

	[ some b.s. about Megadeth skipped . . . ]	

>Testament
>	Obviously The Ritual is a sellout. One need only listen to The Electric
>Crown to hear the pop metal influences. This band has gone poseur and
>again should not be listened to.

Metal can have any influences it wants to!  Metal had to come from somewhere
else, something that is not metal.  Music evolves, my friend.

>Any Seattle band
>	Seattle bands do not continually sing about the dark side of life
>(which death bands seem to mean chopping up babies) and thus should
>never under any circumstances be considered metal (well Alice In Chains'
>songs are pretty dark but they are about drugs which we all no is a
>non-problem while serial killers and Satan are real problems)

Excuse me?  Drugs is a non-problem?  Babies born under the influence of
crack are non-problems?  Death is a non-problem?  You need to get your
brain cells (both of them) tuned, kid.

	[ more b.s. ]

>Slayer
>	An obvious poseur band. For one thing they do not like death metal
>since they consider this music to take everything to ridiculous extremes
>(this was said in an interview with RIP). Also Seasons in the Abyss was
>an obvious sellout. And they like the rap group the Geto Boys and anyone
>that likes rap is an obvious poseur, no repreieve.

SLAYER IS THE HEAVIEST BAND YET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  If Slayer is not metal, what
is?  Rap is not sellout music.  And I challenge you (don't worry you don't
have to if it's too much for your puny mind) to come up with any examples of
rap influences in *any* of Slayer's music.

>Danzig
>	With all the slow ballads they do (i.e. How the Gods Kill) how can this
>be considered a metal band? Also Glenn Danzig made Black Aria an album
>of classical music! 

Heavy metal, in itself, can be considered a form of classical music, since
IT WILL NEVER DIE!!!!!!!!!!!  I believe Danzig will be around for a while.

	[ more bullshit ]

>Suicidal Tendencies
>	We have all heard from Maple that The Art of Rebellion is a sell out.
>What with all the harmoies and rhythms on this album how can it be
>anything but. Besides commercial radio and MTV have been playing Nobody
>hears and I'll Hate You Better. Thus this band is history

You and Maple are buddies?  So *you're* the person he said was great in bed!
:)  But back to seriousness for a minute, Just because a song has rhythm,
the vocalist sings, or the song gets a little airplay and exposure, does not
make the band a sellout band.  Sellouts are *born* sellouts.  Poison and Bon
Jovi are sellout bands.

>Faith No More
>	This band uses rapping in some of their songs such as Epic. Bleah! An
>obvious poseur band

See previous argument concerning Anthrax.

>This list is far from complete and will thus be added to from time to time.

Gee, what a vivid imagination you have there :)

>"They're out ta get me. They won't catch me. 'Cause I'm innocent." --
>Guns N' Roses

I thought you said Axl Rose was "such an asshole".  I also recall you saying
"don't listen to band X because the vocalist's an asshole."

From your twisted point of view, if you keep using your stupid biased
unfounded arguments to prove that "band X is a poser band and should not be
listened to and it's not heavy metal", sooner or later there will be no
metal.  Nothing should be listened to.  All bands are posers.  Surely, there
must be that one non-poser band out there.  If there is, maybe I could
pretend I'm you and use stupid unfounded biased arguments like you to prove
that they're posers and they shouldn't be listened to.

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