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From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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Subject: Re: The Married Man is back
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:48:32 GMT
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Thanks for the beautiful description, Jim!  But why didn't you come
to Mississippi on your honeymoon?  You were so close!  Well, sort of.
I mean you were close to Mississippi, but you weren't exactly close to
my part of Mississippi.  Anyway, welcome back!
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith)
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Subject: Re: top secret?
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:16:36 GMT
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On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 CROSEN@bgsuopie.bitnet wrote:

> This widely know publication is, of course, Quayle Quarterly, which will
       ~~~~~~~~~~~
> soon be ceasing publication, after 12 issues.

Well, I'm just a deprived culturally illiterate person.  What kind of
thing is usually in this QQ?
doris
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      The Japanese Plutonium Ship
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I thought that Graham posted that this ship left several days ago, but I
just heard on NPR that it left yesterday. (And one of it's escorts
rammed a Greenpeace ship. But the French and Greenpeace have this
tradition of getting on so well...) Did I mishear (yet again!) or is
this more disinformation, or what??

Karen
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:14:00 CST
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Re: November 7

Frank at Brown is concerned that "the Commies seem to be making a
comeback in such progressive places as Lithuania."

Furthermore, there is a European power with a Communist government
that has intercontinental ballistic missiles.  Its name is Ukraine.
And the fascists are stirring in Germany.  May you live in
interesting times.

Steve Karlson
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:00:58 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      another lame unix question
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Does anyone know the name of the gnu machine at MIT where I can ftp some
FSF stuff from?

-abh
From: samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
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Subject: Re: How elections work
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:37:26 GMT
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I wrote:

>Definitely Indian names: 283
>[among them, definitely Indian Muslim names: 191]

An old vice of mine. I include Pakistan in "India".

All Pakistan fellows kindly to excuse.

tushar
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:10:26 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Grungy city
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As I think I've mentioned before on this list, driving south on Lakeshore
Drive in Chicago at night, just north of the big curve, the sight of the
lights, especially the Drake Hotel, is almost orgasmic.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Suggestion for the archive
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:49:27 GMT


>to use than the same material in ftpspace. Check out the eff's gopher
>archive to see what I mean. It doesn't offer all their archives (but I
>hope it will soon), but what it does offer is arranged sensibly, with very
>helpful explanations given. It also offers a gopher gateway to the list of
>all known gopher servers in the world. Gopher will eventually supplant ftp
>as the preferred mode of retrieving files over the net.

	I'm working on it already; give me a break.

Rita




-- 
Rita Marie Rouvalis              rita@eff.org 
Electronic Frontier Foundation   | And he spun himself right down 
155 Second Street                | into the ground. Now wasn't that 
Cambridge, MA 02141 617-864-0665 | lucky?  --Deadsy 
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:22:02 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (67)
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: 11.  to make Chalk-O's -- just as hitting the wrong keys on a typewriter is
:called a "type-o," writing the wrong letter (in my case the transposing of
:letters) on the chalk board is a Chalk-O.  I *think* I made up the term;
:at least I've never heard it before and one day to cover my embarrassment
:I gave it a name.

I'll bet the majority of chalkos aren't transpositions - they usually
happen on a keyboard because a timing signal is sent to one hand
slightly faster than it should have, so the fingers poised over
a left-hand key and a right-hand key are pushed down in then wrong
order.

My guess is that for writing - paper or blackboard - the errors occur
earlier in the phonological system and you make echoic sequence errors,
such as phononological or phonolological.

You wouldn't have noted what your errors were by any chance?  I'd be
really interested to hear them.

G
From: R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Evelyn Duncan)
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Date: 11 Nov 92 13:59:30 GMT
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              11 Nov 1992 09:52:43 EST from <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

Judith,
  I felt the same way about Interview, but went on to read Lestat.  It's
a better book, and the character of Lestat is much more interesting than
that of Louis.

Evelyn
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:40:56 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Weird, Really Weird
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              28 Oct 1992 13:19:37 +1100 from <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU>

On Wed, 28 Oct 1992 13:19:37 +1100 <LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU> said:
>
>'to flog' has at least five different meanings here......to flaunt; to sell;
>to steal; to whip; or to masturbate....makes me wonder which one Dan intended.

Well, since I first posted that on 10/21, and my mind is fried, I don't
recall.....but believe it was some sort of 'clever reply' with the
intention of referring to the last one above.

dan
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:06:25 EST
From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Sigh
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Just yesterday I sent e-mail to one Brown wordsler about an FTF with another,
saying "but I don't think I could take both of you at once (oh! what would
Graham do with that!)", and then this morning...

>: Note: I can take Ruth, I can take Graham
>
>*together*  Oh Blommie!  I never knew you cared!
>
>G

Some people are just too damned predictable.

              b."maybe I should just go back to sleep" c.
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 13:36:00 EST
From:         "(Alec D. Plotkin)" <185422285@UCIS.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Did prop. 9 fail in oregon?
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    > As you have probably already heard, it failed by approximately
    > 54-46.  Much too close for my taste.  Still we had a great big
    > rockin party last night, attended by many citizens with
    > interesting haircuts.  Largest applause of the evening elicited
    > by a TV picture of the Portland Bush headquarters, pathetically
    > deserted by about 9:30.

    > Lon Maybon and the OCA have already vowed to try again.  Today I
    > don't care.  A small, tender, atrophied part of my spirit is
    > stirring from its frozen sleep...

    > Carol

Thank God. If it had passed it would have been a black eye on Oregon  and
the United States.
later

alec
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Date:         Sat, 7 Nov 1992 14:15:32 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: i'm on the rag
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	motion, sound, and live film clips
	                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    ????

	motion, sure
	sound, no problem
	but LIVE film?   LIVE video on the news is one thing....but live film?
	and certainly doesn't seem very 'live' by time it gets pressed on cdrom,
	especially when stuff they show is of moon landing, mlk, jfk, etc.....
	is there some meaning i'm missing in all this???
	or just particularly stupid marketing crap?

'Live' in The Biz nowadays means 'Filmed in front of a Live audience'
rather than 'you are seeing this live'.  Wander down the shelves of your
local record/video store & count how many 'live at' titles you see.

The terminology is even more annoying when they use it on TV
and you have an expectation of it being genuinely live. Truth is, there
is hardly *anything* genuinely live nowadays.  Even live broadcasts are
piped through a few-second delay loop to give the censors time to chop
the feed if something that the great unwashed aren't supposed to hear
comes up.

G
(PS Moon landing etc clips don't fit into this category.  Maybe those are
things that were *originally* seen live, first transmission, implying that
what you are seeing couldn't have been edited)
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Subject: Re: Elders in baseball
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:54:48 GMT
Organization: Netsys Inc.

In article <WORDS-L%92110918455017@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)" <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu> writes:
>I'm sometimes sobered by the realization that Robin Yount is
>about my age and still going strong for the Brewers.  I'm not
>sure how I'll react to news of his retirement.

I have just four words to say to you, Steve:
   Gordie Howe George Blanda Satchel Paige
(uh, well--close enough to 4)
From: harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell)
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Subject: Re: Camille Paglia
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:35:46 GMT
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On Tue, 10 Nov 1992, Graham Toal wrote:

> Anyone know the titles of her books?

The two everybody seems to quote are _Sexual Personae_ and _Sex, Art, and
American Culture_.

Haven't started reading the latter yet; don't have the former.

-abh
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From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      happy birthday

>
[birthday message here]
>
>Have a great year!

Jesus Christ! The whole damn world is


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From: CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
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Date: 11 Nov 92 15:10:00 GMT
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Greetings,

The two Rice books I read were *The Mummy* and *Interview with the vampire.*

The Mummy was horrendous.  Certainly as close as I ever hope to get to reading
a Harlequin romance.  Poorly written and plotted; hack writing of the first
(or rather lowest) order.  *Interview* might have made a decent 150 page
novel, had a competent writer been in charge of the project.  Instead, Rice
chose to indulge in dull conmentary on society; even that would have been
okay had it been done with some flair and imagination.  Somehow, nothing is
more disappointing than an unimaginative fantasy.

Marty
From: jrlst14+@PITT.EDU (James R Llewellyn)
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Date: 12 Nov 92 02:38:59 GMT
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I feel it my duty to dispel any misconceptions about myself. I am indeed
a college student. My major is music. I pursue this major because it is
something that I want. I am the son of a single mother. (I suppose my
next ten generations are damned. Oh, well.) I have always taken pride in
who I am and what I believe in. I believe that exclusion of a person due
to age is superficial. What I write has no reflection on age. My only
asset is my mind. It is able and addled, depending upon subject and
situation. I, of course, expect to be uncomfortable until I can find my
place in the list. If, by general consensus, my place is off the list,
so be it. I will continue to read the list to let the world of WORDS-L
unfurl in front of me. My subscription has been the first truly
mind-expanding experience since I arrived at college. My only demand
while on the list is common courtesy. Grrrr!!! Fssk-fssk!!!
Peace, Love, and Don't Take me *too* Seriously,
Jim
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Christian bashing
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	members, isn't that its problem?  Graham is feeling so pinched about
	people holding attitudes he doesn't like that he's not seeing that
	other people might feel pinched about his reactions to them.  I

Actually, the substance of the recent argument wasn't all that important
to me compared to what I really trying to find out from Ruth:  my big
objection wasn't with Ruth or her Church's views on any particular subject
but with her insistence that she believes and follows the literal word
of both the old and new testaments.  In my view, anyone who tries to take
this line is irrational, and I've never understood how otherwise sensible
people can accept a mode of thought which is clearly <out in left field>.

Ruth has in private mail since admitted that she *does* find bits of the
bible stupid, if taken literally, and said quite explicitly that in order
to follow them she has to interpret the meaning.  Further, that some of
the biblical restrictions were only relevant to ancient times.

Whether Ruth will take this to heart and re-examine her views on the
bits of scripture that deal with sexuality, I don't know, but at least
I know she isn't mentally deranged as I thought before.  Her insistence
on claiming that she *did* follow the bible literally is probably a
bit of doctrine taught by her church and repeated parrot-fashion; clearly
she doesn't, and she realises this when she thinks about it hard enough.

G
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: had this been a real posting
Date: 12 Nov 1992 21:31:34 GMT
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In a previous article, crosen@andy.bgsu.edu (Marty Rosen) says:

>Greetings,
>
>Had this been a real posting, I would have said something other than, "I'm
>just seeing how the nn newsreader and the pico editor work together."
>
We now return you to your regular programming? [in more ways than one?]

>Your forbearance is much appreciated.  Besides, there's nothing you can do
>about it except ostracize me!
>
Or maybe get Graham and Jim upset, and point them in your direction.....
That might be considerably worse...especially if you're the Claude the Chap
Tushie was talking about.

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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:18:57 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Danger

On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 13:13:02 GMT Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078 said:
>*** Resending note of 11/09/92 13:06
>
>
>>Evidently you've already forgotten the Aaronology postings. ;-) Don't
>>sweat the details; we're all still here.
>
>>-abh
>
>And I thought Aaron left.......

I just checked:  he's still listed as a subscriber.
>
>Don, flame war survivor, and still friends with all (I think :-))

Evelyn
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Subject: Re: Gleanings (66

>>Also pundit, guru, and brahmin.
>      ^^^^^^
>
>Hmmm...maybe you should add pajama to that list?

Jungle, bunglow, chutney, verandah etc, you know. I wonder how many
of these words are so standard that they don't sound even the least
bit "exotic". I'd say only "jungle" and "pyjama". I'd also say that
"mulligatawney" is not a very standard word.

You should check out "Hobson Jobson", though. Some parts are quite
entertaining.

tushar

PS Just remembered: "thug" is probably pretty standard.
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From:         "Michael E. Macmillan" <MACMILLM%EWC.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: WHTMINYC Part 6

>> Dumbfounded, I realized for the first time the enormity of
>> the Met's collection

> You're 100% right there, though you may not realise it...
>
> G

Ah, G, you know de gustibus . . . and all that.  But how long do you
think it will be before she gets the point and begins to argue about
shifting meanings?

Michael E. Macmillan
(macmillm@ewc)
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>>tushar
>>List Subscriber.
>
>But tushar, aren't you list huNk?  :}

Duhh, where did That come from? My best guess is left field. Betty, your
enthusiasm is well appreciated but I already have my hands full with
suavely defusing a rather dangerous situation regarding another potential
nickname.

Thanks, though. None of the other people round here seem to have thought
of what is obviously the most intuitive alias for me.

tushar
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I am glad I have two accounts.  Polaris is on a Sun, and it's a
bit more efficient than the Pyramid, probably because the
administrator on Polaris has A Clue.

I've set nomail from mhwpa so the idiot messages about insufficient
filespace should stop getting to the rest of you.

I THINK I may have initiated a problem by trying to install ELM
in my own account on mhwpa.  Why?  Just because I've used it on
other systems where I was given access, and it's a lot better
than what AT&T gives us to work with.  I finally managed to get it
to compile, but given the various firewalls and disabled mail
utilities on AT&T machines (such as "sendmail"), stuff gets into a
loop or crashes.  In the meantime my name is all over a 125 million
character file in /usr/spool/uucp called ERRLOG.  That might
account for why there's insufficient disk space....

Ken
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Ruth's kind of love
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:59:20 GMT
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Jim, this is the only answer I will make to what you've just said.

	I Corinthians 13

If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love,
I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
And if I have the gift of prophesy, and know all mysteries and all
knowledge; and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but do not
have love, I am nothing.
And if I give all my posessions to feed the poor, and if I deliver my body
to be burned, but do not have love, it profits me nothing.
Love is patient, love is kind, and is not jealous; love does not brag and
is not arrogant,
does not act unbecomingly; it does not seek its own, is not provoked, does
not take into account a wrong suffered,
does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth;
bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.
Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophesy, they will be done
away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will
be done away.
For we know in part, and we prophesy in part;
but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away.
When I was a child, I used to speak as a child, think as a child, reason as
a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things.
For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part,
but then I shall know fully just as I also have been fully known.
But now abide faith, hope, love, these three, but the greatest of these is
love.

[endquote]
I think we all need to apply this one to what's going on in here.  It's
a passage that's read at a lot of weddings, and not a few funerals.
I think it's a fitting epitaph for a flame war.
-- 
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