From: lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA (Lucio de Re)
Subject: Re: Dangerous Statements ....:
Reply-To: lucio@proxima.Alt.ZA
Organization: MegaByte Digital Communications
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:01:57 GMT

kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:

>In article <1992Dec22.070015.5099@phyrql.Alt.ZA> lucio@proxima.Alt.ZA writes:
>>kautaj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (kauta) writes:
>>
>>>The situation in SA *is* in blak-and-white. No shades of grey! Nothing can be
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Many more would laugh at *your* simplistic interpretation of my statement....

Then why the fuck don't you write what you mean?!

>The color of violence in SA *is* white! The "coloureds, indians, Malay and
>Chinese" would not disagree with this at all!

And in fact the majority of the white population would also agree.  Except
of course the few privileged ones that have access to e-Mail and NetNews.

>A liberal political agenda? Are you out of you mind?? You are ceaselessly
>looting the land and living off the sweat of blak workers...enjoying the
>spoils of apartheid. The least you can do is to delude your mind about this.
>You don't have to shoot Eugene -- just shoot yourself!

I'm looting as much land (less, in fact, I leave in a block of flats,
not a mansion with a swimming pool) as Joe Slovo and survive off the
sweat of my own back (courtesy of Worknet who in turn are subsidised
by foreing capital, if I'm not mistaken via Cosatu).  Care to retract?

>>Why don't you either start contributing to improvements here, instead
>>of shooting your mouth off to prove (why?) that white south africans
>>are all, without exception, inherently evil or SHUT UP.

>I will never shut up, and I have FOUR computer accounts to back that up!!
>And I have NEVER said all white South Africans are bad. That's just a
>figment of your imagination. Joe Slovo, a white South African and a Jew, is
>a much better person than I am.

You will never contribute, either.  And I have a few computers, not
just accounts, to back _me_ up, if we have to play "my dick is longer
than yours" games.

I like Joe Slovo's humanistic agenda, and I also accept that he is likely
better than I; your statement of course would follow even if he was
an anthropophagous dragon from Venus with bad breath.

But for the record, take note that there is _one_ white south african
whom kauta deems worthy of respect.  With Neil Aggett and David Webster,
both conveniently dead, it may even add to three.  The other 5 million,
as he suggests, should shoot themselves.  Personally, I find sufficient
black (with the 'c') support in South Africa to remain here,  and I'm
sure many others will too (committing suicide strikes me as silly, too
many of us do it already, I wonder if kauta has much to do with it!).

Where in Africa do you come from, kauta?  Are you sure my skills are
not likely to bring us face to face one day in your home town?

>I don't give a shit about what you think about me! You should know that by
>now. You can put me in your killfile for all I care! Do not over-exaggerate 
>your importance to me.....you are just a tiny particle of dust in the human
>whirlwind.

Then why do you pay so much attention to my postings?  Are you not just a
little touchy, besides not being any greater a particle of dust?

>To begin with, that was *not* my posting. It was an AP news piece. I don't
>want to argue about this point here, but de Klerk has been pushed to do this.
>He is a crook, just like *you*. And the generals are having their pensions and
>all their benefits intact. De Klerk still insists that it is an isolated
>incident. The *problem* is the apartheid system, which includes *you*. Unless
>it disappears, we will be hearing lots of these stories. [BTW, the reason I
>included that piece of news was to remind the readers that this so called
>blak-on-blak violence is really nothing more than endeavours of *white* 
>organizations like the MI and others, who are an INTERGRAL part of apartheid,
>just like *you*.

Excerpts:

>[de Klerk] He is a crook, just like *you*.
>The *problem* is the apartheid system, which includes *you*.
>... who are an INTEGRAL part of apartheid, just like *you*.

I guess you have some proof for these statements.  Personally, I'm happy
for the Net to decide (it is after all, strongly anglophonic) on their
truth (I don't have to post proof to the contrary, do I?).

Well, I'll admit it annoys the shit out of me that you have nothing to
contribute, despite what seems a reasonable analytical mind!  'Scuse
the paternalistic attitude, but why waste your anger when there's so
much that needs improving?

>Speak for yourself......and your *white* friends. There is an Afrikan tale
>of a wolf that ate shit...reminds me of ya.

As I was saying... (was it a Wit Wolf or a blak wolf?) - sorry folks, he
asked for it!

And, BTW, I take exception to your spelling african with a K.  The word
is the intellectual property of _my_ ancestors, and so is the alphabet
you use in writing it.  If you don't like the way the Latins named your
land and spelled its name, invent your own alphabet and word or use
something from _your_ land of birth.  I'll leave it for the English
users of the Net to take you up on 'blak', none of _my_ business.

>With love,
>kauta.

>P.S. It's a pity I will be gone for a week. I will really miss you. And yes,
>     this is the most polite I intend to be with ya. Next time, IF there is
>     a next time....

I beg your pardon!?   What's this "next time" innuendo?

It reminds me that in a previous posting you asked whether anything I
knew and you didn't was worth knowing; no, you indicated that it certainly
wasn't.  Well here's a short list:

- Italian
- how to control my temper (at least in public)
- good manners.

I hope you enjoy your absence, whatever its cause.
-- 
Lucio de Re (lucio@phyrql.Alt.ZA)
The supernatural does not exist, but it gives me the creeps...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.african