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From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.irc.recovery
Subject: Re: Help - IRCmania ?
Followup-To: alt.irc.recovery
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:58:55 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
Distribution: world
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Summary: /quit
Keywords: /quit


> Can anyone out there tell me, how to get rid of this wonderful disease ?

/quit

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  "My heart is human - my blood is boiling - my brain IBM" - Mr. Roboto
From: hmallat@robin.cs.hut.fi (Hannu Mallat ~ PurpleHaze)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Whats in it for me ? REPOST: IRC QUESTIONNAIRE
Date: 23 Jan 1993 10:46:05 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Distribution: inet
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In <WRIGHT.93Jan22205443@rain.cs.odu.edu> wright@rain.cs.odu.edu (LET'S DO EDUCATION) writes:

>[.....]
>   >   I feel that receipt of a copy of your report after its been handed in
>   >   and graded  is sufficient payment for my services.
>   >   Otherwise, I must charge you 5 dollars for my help, which is the
>   >   typical payment for subjects in psychology experiments.

>   >   And I'm sure many other people who have filled out your questionaire
>   >   are more than willing to waive their 5 dollar fee which they are 
>   >   entitled to, in lieu of you sending them a copyof your report as well.

>You are HILARIOUS!!  Call David Letterman now and let him know you want to
>be a guest of his!!!!

I agree! This 5 dollar stuff is ridicilous... However, I _am_
interested in seeing the results and it wouldn't be much of a trouble
to the person who asked for answers to post the results here. 

>THOR
>(say NO to ridiculous law suits)

	NO!
--
You know, I had trouble with that "Are you decisive?" question. First I ticked
the "Yes" box, but then I changed my mind and chose "No". After a moment I had
rubbed a hole in the paper, and that darned supervisor refused to give me 
another. I wish I could have used a pencil instead of a ballpoint pen.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: claebaur@shell.portal.com (Tony S Annese)
Subject: Re: logfile
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:04:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.121817@IASTATE.EDU> milano@IASTATE.EDU (Getting serious now...) writes:
>on ur .ircrc file have this line
>
>set logfile [filename]
>
>n when u wanna have the log on, /set log on


What does the logfile save? I was messing with it a few nights ago and all mine
would save was echo's wouldnt save anything else. Was wierd. Was under the 
understanding that it would save all commands and messages sent by me.
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From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Bots and Common Sense
Date: 21 Jan 1993 10:38:55 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: irau29.ira.uka.de

In article <C16Iuq.DJH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> smcmilla@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott A McMillan) writes:

[a very good article, to which I fully agree, save for one little mistake:]

> flood users or try to make witty conversation, kick 'em off. A good rule
> of thumb is that no bot should talk unless msged, and then only in the form
> of a msg.

..of a NOTICE, presumably a private (directed at a person rather than
channel... 

> be banned from irc, so we have to put up with them. We SHOULD however, make
> sure that they never flood and avoid loops. Hopefully, users will progress
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^
...for this reason, as it is specified that a NOTICE may not be
answered automatically.

Olaf

-- 
| Olaf Titz - comp.sc.student  |   o     | uknf@dkauni2.bitnet | old address |
| univ. of karlsruhe - germany |  _>\ _  | s_titz@ira.uka.de   | is still    |
| +49-721-60439                | (_)<(_) | praetorius@irc      | valid       |
  "My heart is human - my blood is boiling - my brain IBM" - Mr. Roboto
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: PHSTUD32@nyx.uni-konstanz.de (Pascal Gienger)
Subject: Re: Help - IRCmania ?
Organization: University of Konstanz, Germany
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:29:37 GMT

In article <1jllevINNhsr@rs2.hrz.th-darmstadt.de>
cbvetter@rbg.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Chris Vetter) writes:

>
>HELP!
>
>Can anyone out there tell me, how to get rid of this wonderful disease ?
>
>(Probably the wrong group ;)
>

There's an easy trick to do that:

Take your terminals to invent a new sportive discipline, for example
"Terminal throw"... It's certain you won't want to IRC again :-)...
Write me back your best results (above 20 meters...)

Bye, your unsportiviest student of the world...


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Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: 24 days..
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:20:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.164552.9706@ousrvr.oulu.fi> yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi writes:

>Hey!  I goto dancing lessons too, now when I have time, but those are
>only once a week for one hour -- a way too little for that money I pay!
>(30 FIM for one hour).

Oh, some of mine are free, and others are just real dances... once
you've learned how. I've had 2 women walk up to me in the last week
saying "Hey, didn't I see you at a dance recently?"
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi
Subject: Re: 24 days..
Organization: University of Oulu
X-Newsagent: :: uutimet -- news-agent by yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi ::
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:45:52 GMT

> From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
> In article <1993Jan25.120216.11057@ousrvr.oulu.fi> yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi writes:
> 
> >Tell us, what do you, Christer, do now with all that time you have ?
> 
> I hope Christer will have some good stories to tell us... meanwhile I
> am thinking about learning swing dancing, but I'll have to skip
> Medieval dancing to do it... not enough nights in the week.

Hey!  I goto dancing lessons too, now when I have time, but those are
only once a week for one hour -- a way too little for that money I pay!
(30 FIM for one hour).  Of course I have very good time with new and old
friends outside irc.  That is the best thing that is possible to happen
when you quit ircing: real life relationships doing many things you can
do only in reality.

> :-/
> 
> p.s. 1 year 25 days and 6 hours. :-)

Cheers!

--
Tuomas K.Kaikkonen   yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi  ,._/\ " % man woman     "
Taidonkaari 1 E 36   Tel:+358-81-5546081  `.  | " woman not found "
SF-90570 OULU        (_/ _  __             /FI| " % wife ?        "
FINLAND               I I-I /_            |___/ " wife: No match. "


Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: 24 days..
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:40:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.120216.11057@ousrvr.oulu.fi> yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi writes:

>Tell us, what do you, Christer, do now with all that time you have ?

I hope Christer will have some good stories to tell us... meanwhile I
am thinking about learning swing dancing, but I'll have to skip
Medieval dancing to do it... not enough nights in the week.

:-/

p.s. 1 year 25 days and 6 hours. :-)


Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson)
Subject: Re: 24 days..
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:04:29 MET

yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi writes:

>> From: svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson)
>>
>> So I have made over three weeks.. it feels great, better and better every day.
>> 
>> cjn

>Good for you.  Have you noticed anything like that you check alt.irc
>or alt.irc.recovery for new articles, repeatedly, and think that there
>are too little messages ? (at least I do that now when I don't irc so much,
>well I did that also when I irced :-)

Well, yes. I do check for new posts on both alt.irc and alt.irc.recovery
but I must say that there are better newsgroups to spend time on.

>Tell us, what do you, Christer, do now with all that time you have ?

I have cut down my time on the computers from 10-14 hours/day to less than
six hours/day wich was one of my goals. So what do I do with computers nowdays
when I don't do IRC? I'm admin at *.solace.hsh.se so that takes alot of time.
And I am thinking about setting up UUCP.. reading alot of stuff and so on.
I study alot more.. I spend more time with my friends... etc.. etc.

Life ain't that bad. Not bad at all..

cjn
From: s_titz@ira.uka.de (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
Subject: Re: 24 days..
Date: 28 Jan 1993 11:11:11 GMT
Organization: Fachschaft math/inf, Uni Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: irau26.ira.uka.de

In article <1993Jan28.032048.3693@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) writes:

> Oh, some of mine are free, and others are just real dances... once
> you've learned how. I've had 2 women walk up to me in the last week
> saying "Hey, didn't I see you at a dance recently?"

As long as they didn't say "Hey, I saw you at IRC once!"... ;-)

Seriously, is it that bad with this addiction? I couldn't imagine to
IRC so much that I didn't have the opportunity for dancing anymore...

Olaf

-- 
| Olaf Titz - comp.sc.student  |   o     | uknf@dkauni2.bitnet | old address |
| univ. of karlsruhe - germany |  _>\ _  | s_titz@ira.uka.de   | is still    |
| +49-721-60439                | (_)<(_) | praetorius@irc      | valid       |
  "My heart is human - my blood is boiling - my brain IBM" - Mr. Roboto
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi
Subject: Re: 24 days..
Organization: Phoenix Lab., University of Oulu, Finland
X-Newsagent: :: uutimet -- news-agent by yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi ::
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:02:16 GMT

> From: svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson)
>
> So I have made over three weeks.. it feels great, better and better every day.
> 
> cjn

Good for you.  Have you noticed anything like that you check alt.irc
or alt.irc.recovery for new articles, repeatedly, and think that there
are too little messages ? (at least I do that now when I don't irc so much,
well I did that also when I irced :-)

Tell us, what do you, Christer, do now with all that time you have ?

--
Tuomas K.Kaikkonen   yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi  ,._/\ " % man woman     "
Taidonkaari 1 E 36   Tel:+358-81-5546081  `.  | " woman not found "
SF-90570 OULU        (_/ _  __             /FI| " % wife ?        "
FINLAND               I I-I /_            |___/ " wife: No match. "


Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
From: yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi
Subject: Re: 24 days..
Organization: University of Oulu
X-Newsagent: :: uutimet -- news-agent by yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi ::
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:03:27 GMT

> From: svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson)

> yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi writes:
> 
> >Tell us, what do you, Christer, do now with all that time you have ?
> 
> I have cut down my time on the computers from 10-14 hours/day to less than
> six hours/day wich was one of my goals. So what do I do with computers nowdays
> when I don't do IRC? I'm admin at *.solace.hsh.se so that takes alot of time.
> And I am thinking about setting up UUCP.. reading alot of stuff and so on.
> I study alot more.. I spend more time with my friends... etc.. etc.

Yeah, what about outside computers ?  I admit ones career is important.
So, time spent with computers might be even good -- for example creative
programming, information prosessing.  And we do need system operators!

Friends and studies sound good.  I continue now my Japanese and dancing
studies, and also do my unix/c-language exercise programs and works.

Still I have not done everything I can do and have to do, for example:
write an essay about the Hacker Jargon, write documents of two
of my programs, attend to some new courses in my (CIS) department
(not closely related to unixand c, which is why I am
not so interested in them).

I have always been interested in fact books, and technical gizmos.
Learning to make your own video movies is fun -- takes just so much
money to buy the equipment, therefore I have had to borrow them
from our student union.  I cannot keep them forever (about 1 week maximum).

Well, there is so many possibilities other than irc, news, etc!
You have just to find those that interest you, and make them possible --
true.

> Life ain't that bad. Not bad at all..

Life is beautiful.

> cjn

--
Tuomas K.Kaikkonen   yaz@phoenix.oulu.fi  ,._/\ " % man woman     "
Taidonkaari 1 E 36   Tel:+358-81-5546081  `.  | " woman not found "
SF-90570 OULU        (_/ _  __             /FI| " % wife ?        "
FINLAND               I I-I /_            |___/ " wife: No match. "
From: svarten@solace.hsh.se (Christer Jansson)
Newsgroups: alt.irc.recovery
Subject: 24 days..
Date: 24 Jan 93 12:20:33 GMT
Organization: Solace Computer Club, Sundsvall, Sweden

So I have made over three weeks.. it feels great, better and better every day.

cjn
From: an683@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dean C. Gelston)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: "THER'RE HERE" THE CLINTONS, AHHHHHHH !
Date: 25 Jan 93 06:36:54 GMT
Reply-To: an683@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dean C. Gelston)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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From: gwelty@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: QUERY: Hillary Clinton's Published Writings???
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:46:04 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

Does anyone know of an archive or other e-source where 
I can get copies of most or all of Hillary Clinton's 
published writings?  If so, please respond to my privately.
Thanks,
Gordon Welty
GWELTY@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU
From: ww@nyxfer.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: KKK Swamped by 5,000 in Austin,Tx
Date: 26 Jan 93 06:39:00 GMT
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Subject: KKK Swamped by 5,000 in Austin,Tx
From: nyxfer!ww (Workers World Service)


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KKK SWAMPED BY 5,000 IN AUSTIN, TEXAS

By Barbara Timko
Austin, Tex.

Five thousand protesters overwhelmed about 40 Klan members 
rallying in front of the State Capitol here on Jan. 16. Earlier, 
1,000 people had joined a march called by the People's 
Anti-Racist Coalition to protest the Klan's presence and 
celebrate Austin's diversity.

The Klan had come to Austin to oppose a holiday for the late Dr. 
Martin Luther King, Jr. They sported Confederate flags and threw 
Nazi salutes.

Austin's liberal City Council had urged people to stay away from 
the Capitol and ignore the Klan rally. But thousands came to 
vividly display their anger at the racist presence.

Austin is recognized for its rich music scene. The protesters 
kept up a loud chorus of drumbeats and songs that drowned out the
Klan speakers. Eight people were arrested for throwing eggs at 
the fascists. The Klan members were finally led away to buses 
surrounded by hundreds of state troopers in riot gear with gas 
masks strapped to their waists.

Fifty-two African-American children, the youngest in the lead, 
marched to the steps of the Capitol in the middle of the Klan 
rally. Dubbed "Martin's children" by the crowd, they were 
applauded and cheered as people parted to make a path for them. 
They and their parents came with Rev. Sterling Landa of the 
Greater Calvary Church Rites of Passage. "They need to know where
the hatred is," said Reverend Landa. "They are also learning 
where their friends are. We didn't realize there would be so many
positive people here."

Tirella Laughlin of Mississippi helped lead the march in the 
morning. "I saw enough racist violence in my life and I won't put
up with it. I demonstrate as a white person who hates the Klan," 
she said.

Another demonstrator, Maria Lemor, had been beaten by police 
while protesting a Klan rally in Austin in 1983. "I think the 
most important lesson I learned from that run through fire was 
about hope, intelligence and commitment," she said.

 
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From: quilty@titan.ucs.umass.edu (Lulu of the lotus-eaters)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: MAP banning of MIM
Date: 21 Jan 1993 12:32:24 -0500
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.ucs.umass.edu

I know this topic has probably been rehashed to death, so perhaps my
contribution is unnecessary.  However, I would like to raise my voice,
as well, against the sectarian censorship policy of
misc.activism.progressive.   I know that there is no "right" to access
to a given moderated board, but neither do I think that MAP's charter
allows for it to become a mere private stomping ground for Harel
Barzilai.

I am no great fan of the Sendero; but neither would I make the
Liberal/Idealist blanket condemnation of them which we are fed by the
mainstream press in the US.  Neither am I a great fan of MIM, who
seem, well... a little loopy.  But I *have* enjoyed many of MIM's
posts, even those directly relating to the SL.  For Harel Barzilai to
*BAN* them outright from his little sandbox seems frankly outrageous.
Even if it could be accepted that pro-Sendero pieces were not
appropriate for MAP (which I doubt), Barzilai has the responsibility
to to *READ* individual pieces rather than issueing a blanket
censorship order on MIM.  That *IS* the proper role of a moderator.
His petty excuse of comparing MIM to the State Dept. is worthless
(i.e. he claimed that since State is clearly on the wrong side of
pretty much everything, even accurate and relevant information from
them should not be accepted).  I actually think Barzilai is misguided
re. State; but even accepting that reasoning, MIM is *NOT* the State
Dept. (would that such could be clearly said of Sparticus :-)).
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From: harelb@math.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 20 Jan 93 16:03 PST
Subject: MIM
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Nf-From: math.cornell.edu!harelb    Jan 20 16:03:00 1993


From: harelb@math.cornell.edu (Harel Barzilai)
Subject: MIM


Dear Paul,

In response to your letter:

(1)"Disruptiveness" was not cited as the reason for no longer
including MIM's posts in misc.activism.progressive -- the the item
just posted including the Amnesty International report, with the
explanatory paragraphs at the top, for yet anothe restating of our
reasoning. A careful reading of these also addresses the so-called
"power-exercise" charges.

(2)re-reading the original documents reaveals also that we
"dogmatically" asserted "that MIM will never come up with something"
worth posting to MAP; in fact, what we wrote that since virtually all
of MIM's writings were of the cheerleading-for-Sendero variety, we
suspect this much, and I wrote, on the contrary, that it could *not*
be ruled out of the realm of possibilities that MIM might write
something reasonable [ditto that the sun might not come up tomorrow],
although adding that that would be a rather radical departure from
their present norm.

I might add that if they write a good "progressive" piece and continue
to be cheerleaders for systematic murder elsewhere, theirs will still
not be articles worthy of placement in misc.activism.progressive --
for preciesely the same reasons that a State Department report, *even
if* it was, in this instance, verifiably correct, condeming some
Official Enemy [e.g. Iraq] for its human rights abuses, would
similarly not belong in misc.activism.progressive, the State
Department being an *apologist* for those crimes that suit it just
fine, thank you.

(3)Finally if you read what I wrote you will note that by all means we
encourage "discussion ABOUT" [see "Reply to MIM"] Sendero, just not
apologetic cheer-leading for SL -- a difference glossed over by
comments that people are "quite interested in reading up on the
Maoists" -- and similarly we defend the right of cheerleaders for SL
to post to the *public forums* just as we do the right or advocates of
the KKK, LaRouche, and others we disagree with; and their right to
form a moderated misc.maoist-gonzalo-thought newsgroup if they so
desire.

Harel Barzilai
Co-founder, Co-moderator, misc.activism.progressive (MAP)









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