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From: czmt@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Season Marie Taylor)
Subject: Re: Castro Street (Re: Two threads:  women posting and 'cures' and its spinoffs)
Organization: University of North Carolina
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:42:28 GMT

In article <1glnv9INNh41@morrow.stanford.edu> AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark) writes:

>In article <1992Dec15.214714.10560@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
>czmt@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Season Marie Taylor) writes:

>>season, feeling a little bitchy right now

>  Be careful when using this word around here.  Someone might accuse
>  you of misogyny, Ms. Taylor.

uh-oh...I suddenly feel so mature..."Ms. Taylor?"...I don't think I have
EVER been called that!

How could anyone accuse me of misogyny (which I had to look up when I
started reading this newsgroup, btw) for calling myself a bitch?

(oh, and I wanted to ask...Trey said that this was too formal for me to go
about my usual thing of not capitalizing anything except people's
names...is he right?...I hate capitalizing!!)

season


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                     ____
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From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Shyster (was Re: Castro Street ...)
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:58:41 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

In article <1992Dec16.154800.17099@tc.cornell.edu>,
shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
> []
> I was taught that "shyster" did, in fact, originate in
> Shylock.

That's funny, because _Chambers_ thinks it's:

    [App. from *shy* in sense of `of doubtful repute'.]

where "shy" comes from:
             _
    [O.E. _sceoh_, timid; cf. *skeigh*, M.H.G. _schiech_.]

It wouldn't surprise me if Shakespeare's choice of the name Shylock
was also using the `of doubtful repute' sense of shy,
and probably in an anti-Semitic way.
Thus, my guess is that "Shylock" is anti-Semitic, and "shyster" isn't.
Now, who wants to shoot me down in flames?
-- 
Roger Phillips                            roger@quantime.co.uk
"*sciosophy* n. a system of what claims to be knowledge but is
without basis in ascertained scientific fact, as astrology"
-- Chambers English Dictionary (1988)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay)
Subject: Re: A Taste of Culture
Organization: People's Front of Judea
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:32:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.215513.21001@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>
>For queer men, I like the idea of quiche with lots of sundried
>tomatoes, fresh linguine in a light cream sauce, and an airy, witty
>desert such as a light pastry.

How about a nice fruit flambe'?
-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"SILENCE = QUIET"
                --Girljock Magazine
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Subject: Re: Is it actually 10%??
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 16:17:00 GMT
Organization: (getting there)



mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser) writes, genially:
  >>Don't forget, "Happy Solstice!".
mls@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (mike.siemon), in an unusually curmudgeonly
mood, responds: 
 >I *loathe* solstices.  The impending one marks my having to get UP in 
 >the dark, and drive HOME in the dark.  The one in the other half of
 >the year has enough light, but in far too much of the world (i.e.,
 >where I have found myself living :-)) signifies oppressive heat and
 >humidity.
 
 >I'm an equinox type, myself.

Well, okay-- have a really *miserable* solstice then.  I prefer
equinoxes (what *is* that plural?) myself, but I'll accept season's
(or Season's) greetings where I find them.

-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: buckmr@vccnw06.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: Ken Reeves, first black, openly gay mayor in the US
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:55:02 GMT

prufrock@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scot N Gibson) writes:


>The article mentions that Reeves is one of three openly gay mayors in
>the country.  Anyone know who the other two are?

You didn't finish the entire article, I see (or read my ACTIVIST QUIZ a few
months ago).

The three openly gay mayors in th USA are Gene Ulrich (Bunceton, MO), Ken Reeves
(Cambridge, MA) and Robert Gentry (Laguna Beach, CA).

The ACTIVIST QUIZ [with answers] can be found in /pub/QRD/qrd/info/quiz1-answers
 on nifty.andrew.cmu.edu (128.2.35.7).

-- 
RON BUCKMIRE, 11 Colvin Circle, Troy, NY 12180-3735. ***Clinton-Gore 92!***
vox:(518)-276-8910 fax:(518)-276-6920 buckmr@rpi.edu buckmr@rpitsmts.bitnet
"The love that dared not speak its name now won't shut up!" -Rev. Jerry Falwell
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: albrigh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (thomas g albright)
Subject: Re: No solid proof to support ( was: pounding the "10%" figure into the ground: Nature, 12/3/92
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:32:45 GMT

In article <1gra9pINN50b@copland.crhc.uiuc.edu> pgr@crhc.uiuc.edu (Paul Ryan) 
writes:

>...Closeted gays do not tell 
>strangers on the telephone that they are gay.  Think about what 
>it means to be closeted.  What you've shown is that around 5% of
>those phoned are OUT enough to tell a stranger.
>...

I am very OUT but I wouldn't tell a stranger who called me on the phone that
I'm gay.  There are crazies out there who might want to do me harm.  The
phone call might not be legitimate.  Since there are likely to be others who
feel as I do, the percentage of gay answers is likely to be yet more
conservative.

-Tom Albright


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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Subject: Re: whiskey, whisky
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:49:49 GMT
Organization: (getting there)



rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) advises Nelson Minar (who didn't
believe me when I told him the same thing):

  >>Red wine is probably the best accompaniment for all cheeses,
  >>but, where wine is concerned, you should always go with what
  >>*you* like, rather than what is "ok".  If you don't know what
  >>you like, (1) ask your friendly local wine-shop for a
  >>recommendation, and -- most important (2) keep tasting until
  >>you do :-)

stevenso@Apple.COM (David Stevenson) writes:
 >You might also find it useful to (2a) rinse your mouth out with water
 >between bottles, to refresh the palate.

So, what happened to the canonical olive?  (Or shouldn't I ask...)
-- 

  Mara Chibnik
  mara@panix.com                Life is too important to be taken seriously.

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: prufrock@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scot N Gibson)
Subject: Drooling over the "Europa, Europa" guy.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 04:58:49 GMT

Speaking of drooling over faces on the Screen (which I just was in
another post; speaking, not drooling), I just rented "Europa,
Europa" last night.  I'm not sure, but I think that the actor who
played Solomon Perez (the lead) has the most beautiful face I've ever
seen.  At least I'm in love with it.  Anyone else?

--scoT
(who actually does love "twinks", but who is open to "bears" as well.)

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 \    /  | Stanford Univ.  |  Almost, at times, the Fool."          |
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   \/    | prufrock@leland.stanford.edu  |--------------------------+
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye)
Subject: Re: whiskey, whisky
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:49:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.134949.20523@panix.com> mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:
>
>
>stevenso@Apple.COM (David Stevenson) writes:
> >You might also find it useful to (2a) rinse your mouth out with water
> >between bottles, to refresh the palate.
>
>So, what happened to the canonical olive?  (Or shouldn't I ask...)

Good question. I have never understood how even the most elevated
cognoscenti use wine to clear the buds in tastings. The best medium is
salt or sweetened citrus. Saltines or lemon sorbet are best at
eliminating tannins from the taste spectrum. A good brine-cured olive
would do equally well.
-- 
Howard Arthur Faye * Panglossian Acres * Box 7 * Littlerock, CA   93543

"But Marielle liked the _baba_. It was, she said, 'comme il faut'."
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Castro Street (Re: Two threads:  women posting and "cures" and its spinoffs)
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:01:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Dec15.160129.17498
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <168BC1112A.TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu> TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu writes:
>I don't think so. First of all, witness that I didn't presume that
>*all* men on soc.motss feel this way -- I'd have to be even more stupid
>than you think I am to believe that M*lm*n speaks for all of you. I fully
>realize that some -- you especially, Steve -- are so much more enlightened.
>(Hint -- I'm being *sarcastic*.)
 
Fuck you too.  Again.  Hey, I'm being sarcastic, so no hard feelings, eh?

>You will also notice that I wrote this in response to M*lm*n's comment
>that "when they're ignored, des femmes fascistes feel hurt. When they
>get attention, it's always the wrong kind of attention." Thanks for
>removing that bothersome material that would have provided some con-
>text for your little flame.
 
Sorry, you don't get off that easily.  If you have problems with Melman,
I suggest you confront him directly.  Your complaint here was NOT in
response to Melman as worded, but rather at all of soc.motss.  _You_
removed the context when you decided what to say here.  Listen, no one
here assumes that Melman is anything but an agent provocateur and a
general bozo.  Yet we're expected to take you at your word that your
comments, which indicted all of the participants on soc.motss, are in
response to Melman.  Right.

>I've been told by a fellow female whom I respect that I may have over-
>reacted to Greg's question, and that is certainly a possibility. I no-
>tice that no other women have seen fit to respond to it, though.
 
So?

>REAL lesbians, myself included, are not above this. They are more than
>this, though, just like gay men, right?

So?

>>You sure do.  It was a terribly original thought 5 years ago, though.
>It's as true in 1992 as in 1987. It may not be original, but it's relevant.
 
It was neither original nor relevant to this discussion here.

>Don't hick-bait me, Steve. I know damned well how culturally impoverished
>I am for having grown up in the Deep South.
 
So, let's here more about how irrelevant all these topics discussed on
motss are.  Care to elaborate?  C'mon Tracey, let me help you with that
hole you're digging.

>>Have you met Donald Agarrat?
>Not personally, although I read his posts and tried to e-mail him.
>What's your point?
 
My point is that Donald doesn't get any brownie points for being black,
and when he tries to pull a "white man's burden" kind of argument here,
he's going to be called on it.

>Thanks for the critique. And that cogent "Fuck you too" gives one the
>impression you just took a debate course.

No, just dishing back what you served up.  I was just being more honest.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: sbgreene@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Steven Greene)
Subject: Re: Gay Rights Ordinance for ARLINGTON COUNTY, MARYLAND?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:27:42 GMT

In article <xbf2!4g@rpi.edu> buckmr@vccsouth30.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>
>I read in the NEW YORK NATIVE [and this is why I'm asking for confirmation]
>that the Arlington County Board in Maryland voted to include sexual orientation
>in its civil rights ordinance.
>
>Anyone live around there and can confirm this?

No, no one lives there.  Arlington is in Virginia, and don't you forget it. :-)

(And, yes, they did recently pass such an ordinance.)

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Have yourself a fairy little X-Mas (Re: It's That Time of Year ...)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:47:20 GMT

stevenso@Apple.COM (David Stevenson) writes:

>Speaking as someone who came out in the mid seventies, in San Francisco,
>quite a bit of innocence and exuberance had already been lost by then.
>In this light, you might find Larry Kramer's _Faggots_ educational as a
>contemporaneous reflection on that era (in New York City). [Hint:  even
>then, this book created a bit of a stir among the more politically correct
>gays.]

(note: Wear protective clothing while reading this trash. *Awful* book!)

--
thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu * John Dorrance * Kiss me, I'm an aphrodisiac!

		...and may all your Yuletides be trite.
Newsgroups: soc.motss,alt.sex.bondage
From: gandalf@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu (Thomas M Farrell)
Subject: Re: Ren & Stimpy
Organization: College of Computer Science, Northeastern University
	<thaaang.724380853@cwis> <71698@cup.portal.com>
	<1992Dec15.072558.15083@mic.ucla.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:51:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.072558.15083@mic.ucla.edu> cjones@physci.ucla.edu (Chad Jones) writes:

   In article <18131@autodesk.COM> Mick Washbrook, mickw@autodesk.com writes:
   >I wonder if Ren and Stimpy are gay?

   You should remember the "Gritty Kitty Litter" episode, where Stimpy runs
   off to Hollywood without Ren.  Ren has a picture of Stimpy next to his
   bed and can't stand to look at it.  By the end of the episode, they're
   both nervous wrecks because they've been apart so long.  Stimpy comes
   back home because he misses his "best friend" so much.

Don't mean a thing. My best friend and I get like that after about two weeks,
and I assure you that my best friend is thoroughly straight. (We are of the
same sex and I am gay. We are not an item.)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: How did you find soc.motss?
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 03:26:27 GMT

I discovered soc.motss at *about* the same time as I discovered
Usenet, in the spring of 1990.  I was so pleased to find a group for
queer issues that I faithfully read every message for months.  I still
do, except when the traffic gets unbearable.

I first posted to a thread about earrings that spring, mentioning that
I had gotten my right ear pierced the previous fall specifically
because I hated the idea of people pigeonholing me as straight, even
though that's what I was.  And see where *that* got me ...

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes)
Subject: Re: Xmas is murder...  NOT!
Organization: Thinkage Ltd.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:25:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.092125.7813@cs.mcgill.ca> akbar@cs.mcgill.ca (Alain BOUCHARD) writes:
>actively working on genetic manipulation to get fast growing species for that
>purpose.  My favourite evergreen for Xmas is the balsam fir because it smells
>so great.  Be carefull while shopping for trees that they don't pass you a 
>black spruce instead.  They look almost the same, but balsam fir will last
>much longer when watered properly.  My record is Easter, but blame it on 
>lazyness.  We have an expression for being tricked or fooled: "se faire 
>passer un sapin".
>
>I know some Cris indians on the Quebec North Shore who turned to tree 
>cultivation because their traditional lifestyle of fur trapping and trade 

from fur trapping to fir trapping?

se faire passer un sapin.... hummmmmm, my firry little mind wonders if
to be called "a sap" has some origins in this phrase?

"faire" is too complex a verb for this anglo, rough translation could
be "one matures by the fir" ??

maybe? duhhhhhh?

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From: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Whisk[e]y (was: Have yourself a fairy ...)
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:20:39 GMT
Reply-To: roger@quantime.co.uk (Roger Phillips)
Organization: Quantime Ltd, London (software for market research)

In article <47036@ogicse.ogi.edu>,
markm@ogicse.ogi.edu (Mark Morrissey) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec10.161225.18792@PacBell.COM>
|> rjwill6@PacBell.COM (Rod Williams) writes:
|> >Oh bo-o-oys...Celtic Spelling Fairy here ...
|> 
|> I wasn't aware that either word was Celtic?

"*whisky* (Ir. and U.S. *whiskey*) n. ...
[Gael. _uisgebeatha_ -- _uisge_, water, _beatha_, life ...]"

"*usquebaugh* n. whisky. [Ir. and Gael. _uisgebeatha_ --
_uisge_, water, _beatha_, life.]"

"*akvavit*. Same as *aquavit*."

"*aquavit* n. a Scandinavian spirit flavoured with caraway seeds...
[Dan., Sw., Norw. _akvavit_ -- Mediaeval L. _aqua vitae_.]"

"*aqua vitae* alcohol: brandy, whisky, etc."

[Why paraphrase when you can quote?]
-- 
Roger Phillips                            roger@quantime.co.uk
"*aqua mirabilis* a preparation distilled from cloves, nutmeg, ginger,
and spirit of wine" -- Chambers English Dictionary (1988)
From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: State laws regarding same-sex marriage
Keywords: marriage legal gay
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:08:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <BzDFLB.2xp@ibeam.intel.com> hutch@ibeam.intel.com (Steve Hutchison) writes:
>Later it goes on to say, "The citizens of each
>+state shall be entitled to all privileges and immunities of citizens in
>+the several states."
>
>Anyone know whether this could be used to assault Colorado 2?

Good question... except that the Constitution also insured certain 
rights to be under the control of the individual states.  It could be
argued that personal expression/freedom type laws should follow the
micro-society... therefore CO should be able to have such a say.  One
could also argue within the state that CO cannot claim the right to
pass such laws if it does not allow regions within its own borders to
have the same rights.  Of course, this is an engineer's opinion :)

[Hey, good thoughts do come from Oregon... and Intel :) <ducking>]


-- 
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| AMD PCD / Austin, TX  78741        | v:512-462-6856 / f:512-462-5155
| "No is Yes, and We are All FREE!"  | CO made a #2 no-no... PU!
| My views may not be shared by the organization of origin
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From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Is it actually 10%??
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:24:35 GMT

I'm continuing my followups to this thread in
alt.politics.homosexuality.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
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From: berninge@cs.purdue.edu (James Berninger)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Soc.Motss.*
Date: 17 Dec 1992 05:03:00 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University
NNTP-Posting-Host: alice.cs.purdue.edu

nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>berninge@cs.purdue.edu (James Berninger) writes:
>>I guess what I'm taking offense at is the use of the newsgroup as a
>>tool of the "regulars" (dare I say "elite") -- there are quite a few
>>messages I see posted that seem appropriate for a "chat" between
>>them, and there's no real reason I should have to read these things.
>So why do you read them?
Did I say I read them?  No.  But, in order to determine if a new
thread is worth my time, I have to at least read the first one (or
two, or three, whatever).  And the subject line is not always
indicative of what the actual context is (anyone else see an article
with the subject of ",,," lately?).

>Yes, I know, the real question is that you'd like to not have to wade
>through all of the messages you don't want to read to read the ones
>you do want. I have the same problem: there are plenty of messages on
>motss I don't want to read. (My solution? Threaded newsreader is
>mandatory.  Only seriously read motss on a local fast terminal, get
>used to hitting "N" fast and "J" when I need to. No kill files.)
My KILL file, on the average, gets rid of somewhere between 40-50%
of new articles.  That alone probably saves me 20 minutes -- that's
worth it to me.  But, having to read motss only on a local fast
terminal is inconvenient.

>The trouble is, we *all* have the same problem, but the set of
>articles each individual reader considers interesting is very peculiar
>to the person reading.
>
>If a split occurs, then it needs to split motss up along lines that a
>large majority of motssers consider reasonable.
Agree.  100%.

>Oh, and so I can fulfill James' expectations about what Motss Is
>Really Like According to James,
>
>Hi Jess, hope your back is feeling better!
>Arnold, we miss you! Are you back on the net yet?
>Haven't heard from you in awhile, Jeff - that man keeping you busy?
>Snuggles, Robert.
>You're still the mostest, Arne.
>Anyone out there know of interesting computer summer internships for
>  undergraduates? I want to do something different this year.
Cute.  And actually, pretty accurate.  Not that every article has
this kind of chit-chat, but it's there, and seems to cause almost as
many followups as the stuff that *belongs* here.

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Xref: sparky soc.motss:52910 alt.politics.homosexuality:8134
From: landherr@convex.com (Steve Landherr)
Subject: Re: Key West Accomodation and Attractions ??
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:31:13 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

If you're looking for a good late night drink (after most bars close)
head on down to Jerome's at the Atlantic Shore Motel.

Glinda can fix a roller-rita that will set you free.

-steve
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