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From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: NEBRASKA
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:53:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: titan.1992Nov9.165319.19556
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Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin

skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell) writes:

>m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson) writes:

>>Folks! This Nebraska team is not the same team that played at Washington
>>earlier this year. This is a team that has matured and is confident. At this
>>point I don't care who we get in the Orange Bowl.

>Devany said it is better than '83 or '71. Why? Because we have the dominating
>defense of '71 and the overpowering offense of '83 combined on the same team.
>Once again, this Husker team is an order of magnitude better than it was
>earlier this season. The best in the nation right now?? Hmmmm, could be. ;-)

I was thinking this same thought as I watched my 'Hawks get trounced.  Nebraska
hasn't looked like this since the 31-30 Orange Bowl loss to Miami (a game in
which I thought Mr. Osborne showed some true, um, cajones, at the end, by the
way), with one difference:  you've got a real defense, too.  Just our luck; we
finally get a decent year, and Nebraska finds the second coming of Turner Gill.
Terrific.  And the little fart's a freshman to boot.  Welcome back to reality,
Big 8.  I've seen this story before.  If past form holds, Mason will leave
Kansas for Ohio State within five minutes of the end of our season, and we'll
hire Don Fambrough again, thus greasing our reentry into collegiate football
hell.

>>KU has nothing to hang their heads about. The Jayhawks are on working on a very
>>good season and can do themselves proud with a win next week. Go Kansas -
>>destroy CU.

But you don't understand.  Kansas is only allowed one good year before things
fall apart.  Couldn't you have let us have our little win before dominating
the country for the next few years?  Obviously not.

Take the above whining with a grain of salt.  We're having a fine year, and
I'm more than happy with it.  In fact, I saw some positive things in this
game (and only an inveterate Jayhawk fan could).  We didn't score in the
second half, but I thought the team showed some character on both sides of
the ball.  The defense kept hitting hard, even though the line was obviously
overmatched, and the offense put some (admittedly non-scoring) drives
together in the second half.  These are things that we didn't do in past
Nebraska shellackings.

The funniest part of this game was that my wife actually sat down to watch
it.  Her only comment before leaving in the second quarter: "I thought you
said we were better this year.  This looks exactly the same as every Nebraska
game I ever saw!"  It was hard to argue with her logic.


Congrats, Nebraska.  I think you're on to something big there.  Dammit.



						Al Martin
						alan@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Bama Mich schedules: my last comment
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 21:22:58 GMT
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Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <0eyIKrK00aw40CQkV1@andrew.cmu.edu> William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>in an article
><BILLMS.92Nov4200449@dip.eecs.umich.edu>(WilliamMagione-Smith) writes:
>
>
>I absolutely agree that ND is MUCH tougher than Tennessee.  I even have
>a feeling that Tennessee will have another loss before the bowl games. 
>But Michigan would have had a much stronger argument had they beat Notre
>Dame.  Therefore, if you take another look at the power rankings and
>look at Bama's and Michigan's VICTORIES, Tennessee is ranked higher than
>IU.  Alabama's wins, if I remember correctly, have all been blowouts. 
>Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.  Same with Michigan, EXCEPT:
>1)They could not beat Notre Dame
>2)The margin of victory against Purdue was pretty small(seven points if
>I remember correctly).
>
>Just a few observations, that's all.
>
>Will


Well, actually, not all of Alabama's wins have been blowouts, at least
depending on how you term "blowout".  They only beat S. Miss by 7, 
and Tennessee by 7 as well.  They also only beat La. Tech by 13.  
Michigan, with the exception of the Purdue and ND games, has beaten all of
it's opponents by 24+ points.  

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From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: MS State, Florida, Bama
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:25:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.161748.14337@ra.msstate.edu> maj1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mark A. Jamison) writes:
>
>We'll find out this week
>if the Alabama Defensive line is as good as their "Tulane-padded" stats
>indicate, now that they are actually facing a real offensive line..

    Methinks the measure will be more of how "real" the MSU
offensive line is.  Alabama's defensive front is as good as you've
feared.  Don't expect much blitzing.  We get the quarterback
pressuring job done with the 3 or 4 down linemen.  Remember the
names Curry and Copeland.  They will be heard many times over the
speakers Saturday.

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From: scott@ods.com (Scott Harper)
Subject: Re: MS State, Florida, Bama
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:57:38 GMT

Charles L. Spirrison (cls4@ra.msstate.edu) wrote:
: Also, it'll be interesting to see what happens as Bulldogs take on Bama.  
: Logic dictates a 'Bama victory - but Jackie's troops play very well when
: cast as underdogs (esp. at home).  -  My guess:  Offense is the key for

Think Jackie can castrate an elephant?
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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Huskies scandal could help Arizona again!
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:44:41 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov10.190403.5640@u.washington.edu>, wessir@shelley.u.washington.edu (bill the cat) writes:
> 
> 
> Hello sports fans.
>    Just how big of a deal is the Billy Hobert scandal?
> Maybe big enough for Arizona fans to celebrate again at the misfortune of the
> Husky football team.  Seems that Thursday will be the deciding date.  If the

Let's face it - nothing is going to come of it in terms of this season. The
kid might be out of luck in terms of eligibility but that is trivial in
terms of the team as a whole. I suspect that Washington will have to play
themselves out of the Rose Bowl by dropping one of their last two games.
Nobody is going to take it away...


			gln

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From: ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert)
Subject: FYI: Current NCAA rankings for the BUFFS
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college 
Summary: NCAA rankings
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:39:08 GMT

Source: Rocky Mountain News, without permission

Format: Buffs stats followed by current leader.

OFFENSE
-------

Rushing 	Rnk	Att	Yds	Yds/G 
		94th	331	1008	112.0
Leader:Nebraska 1st	460	2812	351.5


Passing		Rnk	Att	Comm	Yds 	Yds/G
		7th	331	189	2674	297.1
Leader: Houston 1st	429	258	2924	365.5

 
Total Offense	Rnk	Plays	Yds	Yds/G
		26th	662	3682	409.1
Leader: ND 	1st	672	4425	491.6

Scoring Offense Rnk	G	Pts	Avg
		17th	9	262	29.1
Leader:Nebraska	1st	8	346	43.3


DEFENSE
-------
Rushing Defense Rnk	Car	Yds	Yds/G
		40th	384	1263	140.3
Leader: Alabama 1st	298	496	55.1


Pass Defense	Rnk	Att 	Comm	Yds	TD	Pts
		2nd	226	90	1201	6	79.06
Leader: Alabama	1st	226	105	1077	3	76.71
		

Total Defense	Rnk	Plays	Yds	Yds/G
		7th	610	2464	273.8
Leader: Alabama	1st	524	1573	174.8


Scoring Defense	Rnk	G	Pts	Avg
		35th	9	170	18.9
Leader: Alabama	1st	9	67	7.4


Just some facts. I have some more interesting ones to post tomorrow.

I find it interesting that Miami only shows up in the top 5 for scoring
defense and passing. How could a number 1 ranked team not lead any of these 
stats let alone only show up twice in the top five in these 8 catagories. 
Makes you wonder, huh?.

-ethan 
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From: lang@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John J. Lang)
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:54:41 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Nebraska and patsies -- C U later
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college

> : (Now, admittedly two 2nd half touchdowns were scored on passes of 1 and
> : 5 yards, and there was Dixon's 48 yard reception, but I'd hardly call FOUR
> : completed passes excessive!)

> When you are up 31-7 in the 4th quarter, you don't pass. You keep the ball on 
> the ground.  

> Pranav Vakil   --   Evolving Systems, Inc.   --   Email: pranav@evolving.com

Actually, considering Nebraska's style of offense, passing could be considered
trying to not run up the score. :-)

John Lang
lang@fc.hp.com

Note: Not an official opinion of the HP company.
From: mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: texas football
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:29:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: lgc.1992Nov6.222944.26171
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas

>>  Well, we ARE working on it.  I believe Colorado, OU, ND, and some others are
>>listed on future schedules...not all in one year though!  It's not like you
>>can schedule these games just 1 year in advance...
>>
>
>these look like good matchups for a&m.
>

I'm pretty sure Texas and ND play two games in the mid 90s, but I don't
think there are any games scheduled between ND and A&M.


-- 
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Subject: Re: God! Grass DOES grow in the SWC!!
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:35:56 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Nov11.004247.536@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR)) writes:
>Finally!! A SWC team with grass in their home field! TCU's new field looks
>great. I tuned in to the the TCU-Texas game and could not believe what I saw.
>Grass!! Now if only the Big 8 could see this.
>
Don't look for KSU to replace their's any time soon, as they just got
new turf put on.   Mizzou's turf is supposedly the next one to be
replaced.  After all of MU's injuries the past several years, they
may want to go to grass.  I think ISU's QB-Utter, would like grass
too since he has had two concussions this year.  I don't know about
the rest of the Big 8 and how soon they need to replace their turfs.

I understand that the maintenance cost between grass and turf is
about equal.  What are the advantanges to turf over grass?  Or
grass over turf?
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From: mwharff@iastate.edu (Michael D Wharff)
Subject: Re: IAA top 20
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:54:45 GMT

In <1992Nov5.212312.7517@wuecl.wustl.edu> dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu (David Mathias) writes:


>Could someone please post the IAA top 20 for this week?  I know
>it appears in USA Today but I missed it this week.
Sure
				Pts	Prv.
1.  Northern Iowa (4) (8-0)	80	1
2.  Idaho (7-1)			76	3
3.  Citadel (7-1)		70	6
    N.E. Louisanna (6-2)	70	5
5.  Marshall (6-2)		62	2
6.  Delaware (7-1)		59	7
7.  Mid. Tennessee St. (6-2)	56	4
8.  Samford (7-1)		55	8
9.  Youngstown St. (6-2)	48	10t
10. Florida A&M (6-2)		44	12
11. Villanova (6-2)		40	14
12. S.W. Missouri St. (5-3)	34	13
13. Richmond (6-2)		32	9
14. McNeese St. (5-3)		29	15
15. E. Kentucky (6-2)		21	16
16. Georgia Southern (6-2)	18	-
    William & Mary (6-2)	18	10t
18. E. Washington (6-2)		13	19
19. North Carolina A&T (7-1)	10	18
20. Massachusetts (6-1)		5	20

>Thanks.
You're welcome
-- 
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From: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com (Tony Bowman)
Subject: Re: MS State, Florida, Bama
Reply-To: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com  
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:52:56 GMT

In article <cls4.721322494@Isis.MsState.Edu>, cls4@ra.msstate.edu (Charles L. Spirrison) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> A. On October 1, the Mississippi State Bulldogs POUNDED the Florida Gators.
|>    ... it wasn't even close.  Shane was simply rattled by the defense.
|> B. Mississippi State is currently 7-2.  The Gators are 6-2.
|> C. Florida is ranked 13 by USA Today/CNN, 11 in the AP.
|> D. Mississippi State is ranked 16 in each poll.
|> 
|>   .... something is wrong here
|> 
	I would concur, except that State lost to LSU and South Carolina.
	I am of course a very big Bama fan, but you are right.  Jackie has
	a way of winning big ones !!  The Bulldogs are a better team than
	their record shows.  There is no way in hell they should have lost
	either game !  I was extremely pissed especially when they lost to
	S.C..  Bama's good, but they will have to play their best offensive
	game to date to come out of Starkville with a win.  Good Luck to 
	the Dogs,  Roll Tide Roll !!
	BTW-  I'll be there (frozen toes and all, it's suppose to be really
	cold !!) pulling for the TIDE !!

	Tony (haven't missed a home game in 17 years) Bowman

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From: msb@tyler ( Mark Blumhardt)
Subject: Re: Nebraska defeats Colorado
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:14:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.174533.24107@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson) writes:

Yeah, I'm a old time CU fan and am mature enough to admit that CU got
its butt kicked, but I'm sick of your generalizations:

>Geez can't you CU fans just admit you got your butts whiped and CU limped back to LiberalTown (boulder) with their tails between their legs and go on with
>life?

Also the home of extreme right wingers, like "Soldier of Fortune".  Not
all people here are liberal.

>My opinion from listening to the KOA Denver Propaganda is that "Coach Mac"
>has a VERY clear understanding of direction for his team. You can't pin this
>on him - you TURNCOATS!!! One min. you love him and now you loath him. Grow
>up and give the man some time to develop his plan.

I hope that you are directing these comments to a handful of
posters, not all of Boulder, or all CU fans in general.  A lot
of us continue the same consistent support.

>
>I think you cu folks should just take this quietly and try it again next year. By the way - WHERE HAS OUR FRIEND NJAN BEEN??????      Hello, hello, hello...

Yeah, I was quiet until a loud mouth like you started spewing!

Mark
From: trh@perkin.caltech.edu (TODD HUNTER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND/PSU--third time's a charm?
Date: 9 Nov 1992 23:17 PST
Organization: California Institute of Technology
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In article <1992Nov9.214653.1@fnalo.fnal.gov>, traynor@fnalo.fnal.gov writes...
>Oh _puhleeeeaaase_ let's beat Penn State this year........
> 
>                                        -Mike Traynor
>					
> 
>NNN  NN DDDD    Mike Traynor (ND '86)(Rice '93?)


Not a chance!

        -Todd Hunter (PSU '91)(Caltech '96!)

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From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Re: Apple Cup (was Re: Washington vs. Arizona)
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 08:43:38 GMT

In article <26036@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:
>In article <5dA=Ra+@engin.umich.edu> chyang@simile.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>>                                           Despite the loss, the Huskies 
>>will go to the Rose Bowl if they win their last two games and that should
>>be easy.  
>
>I hope that the Husky football team has as much (typical) foolish arrogance
>as you display here, because if so the Cougars will blow them out of the
>water in the Apple Cup.  Granted, in half of the dozen or so years I've
>followed the contest as a Cougar partisan, the UW had the Cougs outclassed
>so the outcome wasn't much in doubt.  But that is not at all the case
>this year.  The Cougar offsense is a bit better than most years,
>and for once they have a good defense.  And the game is in Pullman.  Beware!

If by "outclassed" you mean outmanned, then I think it's safe to say that
it *is* still the case this year.  I'm hoping and praying that the Cougs
can pull the upset too, but I think you might be overrating them some if
you put them in almost the same class as the Huskies.  Also, the Cougar
offense might be statistically better than past years, but if you've seen
them during the last month, you would realize that they are the only thing
keeping this team from being 9-0 right now.  The defense is better than 
good; it's outstanding.  I think the Cougs' defense can give the Huskies
some problems, but I'm having a tough time picturing this offense moving
the ball with any consistency against the Husky defense.  It is an offense
capable of big plays, but with Bledsoe's inconsistency, the line's 
occasional inability to pass-protect, and Mike Price's play-calling,  
scoring will be tough.

Jim
Go Cougars, Vikings, Northstars! 
 
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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Reality Check
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 22:55:35 GMT

ROGER DENDY writes:

>I believe the Bowl Coalition guarantees the ACC champ a spot in either the
>Sugar, Cotton, or Orange, unless a #1 vs. #2 match (including the ACC Champ
>) can be made in the Fiesta.  That would put Florida State against Nebraska
>in the Orange, leaving Syracuse against Arizona in the Fiesta.

I guess my reality check bounced.

     - pat
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From: troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Big East Contest (Week 10 tally).
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:01:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Right Coast HQ For Stupid Pub Tricks
In-reply-to: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com's message of 9 Nov 92 16:31:57 GMT

>>>>> On 9 Nov 92 16:31:57 GMT,
>>>>> robert.dieckmann 
>>>>> from the organization of AT&T
>>>>> who can be reached at: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com
>>>>> (whose comments are cited below with "	robert.dieckmann> "),
>>>>> had this to say in article <1992Nov9.163157.19268@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
>>>>> in newsgroups rec.sport.football.college
>>>>> concerning the subject of Big East Contest (Week 10 tally).


[text deleted]
	robert.dieckmann> Homer Simpson were upset by Cincinnati's
	robert.dieckmann> last second field goal to nip the Dear Old
	robert.dieckmann> Rutgers Knights in Scarlet (DORKS).  Some
[text deleted]
	robert.dieckmann> ("DORKS" is a Trademark, created by Mark Mitchell.)

Do you feel particularly proud of the above name calling?
It is a nice service that you are doing, posting the status of
the Big East.  Would it be possible to keep your opinions on a 
professional (if not semi-professional) level?

Thank you.
Rod Troch



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From: zcjm0f@wwnv45.uucp (CJohn Mace)
Subject: Re: What makes a team #1?
Keywords: n
Organization: Amoco Production
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:02:18 GMT


>Don't worry about who's national champion, because it really
>doesn't matter at all.  Let's say you're on Texas A&M and you
>gon undefeated, but are rated 2nd behind Alabama.  Are you 
>going to feel any less just because 60 people think they
>are better than you?! Of course not (I would hope), you're 
>going to feel good about your season and then get back to
>work and start preparing for next year (heh).  That's what a 
>fan should be able to do as well.

My vote for us to just declare themselves co-champions, it doesn't
matter what everyone else thinks..  Until there is a playoff system
of some sort, then every untied, unbeaten team has a claim.

The poll voting thing is already taking its toll.  After a late
Louisville score, A&M went ahead and scored another td with about
a minute left.  Normally, we would have probably just downed the 
ball and run the clock out at that point, but FSU won 69-21 and 
are close to passing us in the polls...  That stuff really bothers
me, because Louisville came and played hard.  They didn't deserve
to have that last td scored on them.  Football is just a game, and
I think we need a true champion of some sort, but at this expense, 
it may really not be worth it.  Coach Schellenberger (sp?) showed 
some real class in the post game interviews, when the press ribbed 
him about the last touchdown.  He just said that he understood why
it was done, and it wasn't aimed at Louisville.

>
>Just my 20 mills worth...
>
>Doug
>GO Jackets! Go Hokies!
>-- 
>Doug Porter                        |   "It had been necessary for him
>Virginia Tech                      |    to swallow swords that he might
>President, WiffleBall Football     |    have a better throat for
>Association of Roswell             |    grapes" -- Stephen Crane

cmuck


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