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From: ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki  takeuchi)
Subject: TOTALLY NEW System 6?
Reply-To: ttak@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:42:39 GMT

I read a long time ago in MacWeek, I think, that Apple was
supposed to come out with soon (or working on) a
new System 6.x with many improvements, although not quite
System 7.  Does anybody know anything about this?  I
am looking forward to this since System 7 is pretty slow
on my Mac Plus!  Anyone want to donate me a faster
Mac?  :-)

Kenji Takeuchi (send replies direct to ttak@midway.uchicago.edu)
From: jwang@phy.duke.edu (James Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: JPG to GIF or PICT converter
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:58:10 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Aug18.184816.17851@tin.monsanto.com> lesnyd@monsanto.com (Larry E. Snyder) writes:
>Does anyone know of an FTPable utility to convert .JPG files to GIF or
>PICT for the macintosh? Please let me knoe if there is such a thing.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Larry
>lesnyd@monsanto.com

JPEGview from sumex.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ljones@utkvx4.utk.edu (Jones, Leslie Lamont)
Subject: RE: Losing icons one restart after rebuilding desktop
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 02:32:00 GMT

From the original article:

I restart and rebuild the desktop.  All is fine.  But if I restart again
without holding down opt-cmd keys, icons are lost.  REbuilding again
restores.  Another restart without rebuilding and many are lost.
Ideas?

Thanks....john Cary

I had the same prob on my machine. (Another curious symptom on my machine:
even rebuilding didn't restore icons to certain files, such as the Clipboard.)
I solved the problem permanently by deleting the desktop DB and DF files.
100% recovery with no subsequent probs.

The cmd option rebuild actually justs updates the desktop files. If you erase
there are two ways of erasing the desktop files.

There are two ways to erase the desktop files.
1. Use a utility such as DiskTop (payware) or DeskZap (freeware) that can
delete invisible files. ResEdit will probably work, also.
2. Use Salient Software's freeware DeskTopReset, an init that turns every
rebuild into a true rebuild, with desktop files deleted ad rebuilt from
scratch.

Hope this helps.

Leslie Jones
LJONES@utkvx.utk.edu



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: dave@prc.unisys.com (David Lee Matuszek)
Subject: Incomprehensible Grouch problem
Organization: Paoli Research Center - Paoli, PA
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:59:47 GMT

Disaster!
Oscar the Grouch no longer pops out of his trash can and sings to me!

I'm having a number of other random problems, such as an external disk
that only sometimes automounts, but this one has me worried.

When I boot, Oscar shows up in the line of extension icons, just as he
should.  This is the only indication that he installed; he doesn't
show up on the menu, and emptying the trash just empties the trash,
period.  I replaced Oscar with another copy from a machine where he
does still work.  Didn't help.  I re-installed System 7 (in an
unsuccessful attempt to cure the automount problem).  Didn't help.

I use a number of ini--er, extensions--but I haven't installed any new
ones lately.  Loading Oscar with no other extensions--ok, presumably
with System 7 TuneUp--doesn't help.

I hate it when things fail in incomprehensible ways.  Does anyone have
a clue what might be going on?

-- 
And the President put his hand on my shoulder and said: "Dan, 
I _knew_ Spiro Agnew.  He was a friend of mine.  And Dan...  
You're no Spiro Agnew!"
                -- Vice President Dan Quayle
From: rand@lucy.merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Controlling which disk an app is launched from
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:42:35 GMT
Reply-To: rand@lucy.merrimack.edu ()
Organization: "Silicon Surfers, Inc."

, 20 09:42:35 19929209:42:35 1992EST GMTLines: 10


Is there a(n easy) way to control which disk an application is launched from if a document is lauched and the application is on more than one of the currently mounted disks?

I realize I could launch the app of my choice and then open the document. The particular problem I'm having is that I've got a document in the startup folder (a Darkside screensaver module) and the app (Darkside) exists on a local disk and a fileserver that's auto-mounted. The fileserver volume gets mounted before the local (non-system) disk gets mounted.


--
Rand P. Hall, System Janitor, Merrimack College, North Andover, Massachusetts
Internet: rand@merrimack.edu, rand@lucy.merrimack.edu
From: martin@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: MacRecorder on a PowerBook 100.
Summary: Anyone else having problems with this combo?
Keywords: macrecorder powerbook problems
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:11:31 GMT
Organization: Curtin University of Technology

Has anyone here tried recording sounds through a MacRecorder with a 
PowerBook 100?  Do you get good results?

I'm using the MacRecorder Driver 1.0.2 and SoundEdit 2.0.5 and having
problems... (same with recording using the Sound control panel) ...
...there is a fast clicking (slow buzzing) noise in the
background of any sound I record.  I'd like to find out if this is
a software incompatibility or a hardware problem.

I've used the same software and MacRecorder on an SE with no troubles.

Thanks for your replies,
Martin
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: Set startup in 7.0?
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<1532@sousa.ltn.dec.com>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:18:02 GMT

> long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long) writes:

   > Does anyone know of a way in System 7 to mimic System 6's Set Startup of
   > running applications and DAs?
     ^^^^^^^

    Many kind folks have replied via e-mail, telling me to put aliases of the
    desired items in the Startup Items folder. I know about this; I guess I
    should have been more clear initially.

Actually, that wouldn't be too hard to do; just write
an app that loops through the process table and
creates alias files into the startup items folder !

I would do it, but I feel to mushy now. It's a 2-hour hack !

-- 
- I have decided that it is not boxes but my lack of skill that's the problem.
- Traitor! This kind of attitude will get you nowhere around here. If you must
  know, it's not your boxes that are the problem, it's your lack of a
  sufficient number of boxes. Go out and buy something.
From: js43+@andrew.cmu.edu (James William Stepanek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Is there sys 7 compatible Send PS?
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:55:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8eZDL0K00WBK01fGAL
Organization: Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I need to know if there is such a thing available out there. The version
I have is not compatible with the new system and I really could use a
new version if one is available. Best to respond to this account because
I don't read this bboard often.
James Stepanek
esp
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: spence@dante.cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Spence)
Subject: My LC II won't boot under System 6!? :(
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:57:13 GMT

This may be a commonly known problem, I'm not sure. I have for the past
severl months swapped between system 7.01 and 6.08 by booting off a
6.08 disk. I recently tried out the shareware product system-switcher and
encountered some buggy operations such as unwillingness to bless the 6.08
folder. I deleted the program and....
 
Now my LC II gives me a system error whenever I try to boot off a 6.08
or 6.07 floppy! The error occurs right after multifinder puts the disk icon
on the desktop.
 
Some people have told me that the LC II isn't supposed to be able to use
system 6 at all, but I had it working for a while and it seems silly to
me that this would be the case.
 
Any comments, advice, or 'me too' stories?
 
Slainte,
Rob

P.S. System 7.01 on the hard drive works fine, and I can also boot off system
7 floppies.....

--
Rob Spence
University of Illinois
spence@gog.cs.uiuc.edu
From: haase@meediv.lanl.gov (Peter Haase)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: How to install 2 MAC OS on same Drive???
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:02:08 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: LANL

I have System Picker but in the Read Me it does not say how to install
2 Systems on the same drive. I have a MAC running 6.0.5 that I also want
to install 7.0.1 on and then use System Picker.....Does someone have a
painless way of doing this?????Thanks in advance.....

<==================================+==================================>
  Peter Haase                      +    Internet: haase@meediv,lanl.gov
  Net Manager/MEE-Division         +    Phone: 505-667-2684
  Los Alamos National Laboratory   +    FAX:   505-665-3911

"The opinions expressed in this message are my own and do not necessarily
 reflect those of Los Alamos National Laboratory"
From: angel@herald.usask.ca (Joseph F. Angel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Changing Keyboard Mapping
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:14:01 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

I have installed the Mac Arabic System (7.0.1.3) on one of the hard disks
attached to a II CI, and it worked fine.  However, I am unfamiliar with the
standard Arabic keyboard layout, and I would like to install a keyboard
layout that corresponds to the US standard keyboard (i.e., I would like the
A key to generate the Arabic Alif, the B key to generate Arabic Baa, etc.).


How does one go about this?

Thanks,

Joe
From: gee@iastate.edu (Gary W Clayburg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Apple's Very First AMAZING
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:01:02 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <1992Aug13.145544.3248@otago.ac.nz> stanger@otago.ac.nz (Nigel Stanger) writes:

>john@newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III) writes:
>> ttak@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>> I heard about the maze game called Amazing that came with
>>> the very first System Software for the Macintosh?
>>
>> I have it, but I don't have a Mac at the moment.  Amazing is a maze game
>> that has something like three levels of play, from trivial to more difficult,
>> with the top level being a very difficult multi-level maze.  This game is
>> really neat, but it only runs on 68000 hardware, and I don't think it ran
>> past system version 5.  I wouldn't think that it would take much trouble
>[...]

>I beg to differ. I've successfully run it on an SE/30, and it was
>earlier on this year, so it was under System 7. You're right
>though -- neat demo. I wonder what the algorithm is like?

Well it don't work for me.  I have never been able to get it to work on my LC
under 6.0.8 or system 7.0.  Anybody else have any better luck?
From: gcl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (# Texas Stalker #)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Icon Problem
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:25:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


Hi,

I'm having a small problem with icons.  I've upgraded PageMaker from 4.01
to 4.2, and MS Word from 4.0 to 5.0, but the old icons keep showing up.

I've tried rebuilding the desktop and they will fix it for a day or two,
but then they will go back to the old icons again.  I have deleted the old
versions already.

Any help?

The system is a FX 20MB/150HD, and a 1.2Gigabyte HD w/ 3 partitions.

Thanx.

George
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: matsb@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: IIsi sound problem
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:44:53 GMT

BGD1@psuvm.psu.edu () writes:
: Sometimes my Mac IIsi becomes silent, regardless of the program that's
: running--it happens even if the finder is the only "appl." running.  Less
: frequently, my Mac acts as if the sound control panel were set on 0 (i.e.,
: the menu bar flashes).  Resetting the volume to LOUD (6-7) and then back
: down to 2 were I keep it solves the problem for a while.  I've checked for
: viruses.  It's running system 7.0 plus TuneUp.  Any ideas?  thanks.

This is a hardware failure. I use a very simple method on my IIsi: I leave
the sound at level 7, you get used to it ...

/Mats
-- 
Mats Bredell                                   Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
Department of medical systems                  Ph:  +46 18 187817
Sweden                                         Fax: +46 18 187825
From: jrh@de.deere.com (John R. Howell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: European Prices, Why So Much?
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:57:26 GMT
Organization: Deere & Company

In article <70849@apple.Apple.COM>, bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre) writes:
> 
> The current issue of why stuff costs so much more in Europe than the
> US is a perfect case in point. I frankly don't have a clue why. That's
> not to say I don't think there's a reason. I don't know if there's a
> reason or not.
> 
> I suspect that there MUST be a good reason.

I just returned from France and think I have a good handle on the reason.

Frankly it costs more money to do business in Europe than in the US.  Apple
has set up offices and staff in Europe to maintain a business "presence".
This "presence" has higher rent for office space, more expensive living
expenses (food, etc), higher taxes, higher plane fares, higher telephone
charges, etc.

Apple then has to pass its costs on to the "European" Consumer.

John

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu (Herb Poppe)
Subject: Re: System 7.1 - an overview
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:05:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.113745.24550@uni-paderborn.de> jerry@planck (Gerald 
Siek) writes:

> Here's a short summary of the new features and enhancements of system 
> software 7.1.

The summary doesn't mention it: I wonder if the Finder in 7.1 supports the 
Apple Events Object Model?

Herb Poppe                 National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR)
hpoppe@ncar.ucar.edu       1850 Table Mesa Dr.
(303) 497-1296             Boulder, CO  80303
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: art@cs.UAlberta.CA (Art Mulder)
Subject: Keyboard Layout: Seeking a way to rearrange the arrow keys
Summary: Can I rearrange the arrow keys to follow the vi "hjkl" layout?
Keywords: keyboard layout arrow keys vi 
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:07:00 GMT


  I've been reading (with great interest) the various postings discussing
  the Dvorak and other keyboard layouts.

  Is there a keyboard layout available which will switch the layout of the
  Arrow Keys *only* such that instead of their current layout:

	-----------------
	| < | > | v | ^ |  (left,right,down,up)
	-----------------
	
  They will instead act as if they arranged like this:

	-----------------
	| < | v | ^ | > |  (left,down,up,right)
	-----------------

  I've used the "hjkl" keys in vi for so long that I get confused/annoyed
  whenever I try to use the arrow keys on my Mac without looking at them.

  Please email any info, I will summarize to the net.

...art (art@cs.ualberta.ca)

ps: Yes, I've looked through sumex, All I found there was a dvorak layout
    and a number of layouts for different countries.

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From: bx341@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert E. Winston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: No Color Desktop Patterns
Date: 23 Aug 92 00:12:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


 > I seem to be no longer able to change the color of my color
 > desktop patterns. The b/w patterns are still there in the
 > General Controls/Control Panel, but there is no bar at the
 > bottom for color changes. I have been using a shareware
 > program called "Desktop Patterns, Vol. 1" that I got from
 > Sumex. It puts color patterns on the desktop, so I assume it
 > patches the OS somehow. 
 >  How do I unpatch?

There are two ways to fix this.
1) Replace the system. If you do this be sure to drag the old
System file to the trash then startup with the System 7 Install
1 disk. If you don't trash the old system first, the installer
saves the desktop pattern from the old system file and puts it
in the new one.You will have accomplished nothing.
2) Use ResEdit.
<Children under 18: Ask your parent's permission before using
ResEdit>
Open the System file with ResEdit.
Double click 'ppat' and select and cut resource #16. This is
your current desktop pattern.
Double click 'ppt#'. This is where the color patterns live.
Double click resource #0, the only one.
On the right side of the picker, select any one of the color
patterns by single clicking it.
Copy and paste this pattern into 'ppat'.
Do a <Command> <I> or select "Get Resource Info" from the
Resource menu.
Change the ID# to 16.
Save and quit ResEdit.
You should now be able to select any of the color patterns in
the General Cdev.

____
Robert E. Winston      usr4818a@tso.uc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: nasadk@vccsouth16.its.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski)
Subject: Screwy Boot up Icons...
Reply-To: nasadk@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:26:29 GMT

Well, when I start up my mac IIsi, I get the nice progression of icons
across the bottom of the screen. It lookes wonderful, until it reaches the
right side of the screen. Then it chops the icon there in half. The next
icon proceeds up one row, and then the remaining three drop down to the first
row. Anybody else experiencing this? If I turn off the display of the icons,
I don't have the problem, since there isn't enough to cover the first row. 
I think I can explain the half icon by Gatekeeper. It's two icons are
displayed "locked" together on startup. But I cannot seem to figure out why
the next row drops down again after display.

Incidentally, this seems to be independant of which startup documents (INITs,
CDEVs, Extensions) I use, since adding and subtracting of them does not
change what happens.

Any ideas?

Nazman
<nasadk@rpi.edu>
From: billa@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Bill Anklam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: SuperBoomerang + CE Toolbox conflict
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:02:43 GMT
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)


I don't have my manual in front of me but ...

SuperBoomerang & MultiMaster 3.02 requires CE Toolbox 
to be installed to work properly.

On startup you should have an icon that looks like a toolbox (with 
CE printed on it) come up almost immediately after the StartUp Manager loads.

Bill

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: ak873@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Sapienza)
Subject: Re: Screwy Boot up Icons...
Reply-To: ak873@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Sapienza)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 01:03:22 GMT


In a previous article, eric@homebase.vistachrome.com (Eric Brunson) says:

>nasadk@vccsouth16.its.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski) writes:
>
>>Well, when I start up my mac IIsi, I get the nice progression of icons
>>across the bottom of the screen. It lookes wonderful, until it reaches the
>>right side of the screen. Then it chops the icon there in half. The next
>>icon proceeds up one row, and then the remaining three drop down to the first
>>row. Anybody else experiencing this? If I turn off the display of the icons,
>
>This is caused by slip-shod programming.  The programmer assumed ( incorrectly )that his icon would always be on the bottom row.  There isn't really anything
>you can do about it.
>
>-- 
>Eric "Ra" Brunson      |
>eric@vistachrome.com   |     These opinions are mine alone, but
>brunson@math.fsu.edu   |   they could be yours for a low monthly fee.  
>

Sure there is, get a program called IconWrap from your nearest ftp site!!

Mike
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|                     | ac860@yfn.ysu.edu           | sapienza@aol.com        |
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From: landwebe@math.rutgers.edu (Peter Landweber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: 7.1 in Beta???
Summary: 3d Buttons in 7.1
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:45:51 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Aug14.221335.16586@msc.cornell.edu>, maynard@tamar.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:
> 4) Do we have 3D buttons and a color icon for floppies yet?

Apple still hasn't gotten around to redesigning the pushbuttons, radio
buttons, and check boxes in System 7.1.  However, if you want to have
3D buttons to match your windows and scroll bars (or even look a bit
better), check out my shareware ($10) extension "Greg's Buttons".  It
also colorizes the stop, caution, and note alert icons.  I just tried
out GBv1.5b8 with System 7.1b7, and I'm pleased to report that it
works fine.  By the way, Maynard Handley is a registered user.

-- Greg Landweber (PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS ACCOUNT!!!)
From: rwatkins@bbn.com (Ron Watkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: IIsi sound problem
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:23:00 GMT
Reply-To: rwatkins@BBN.COM (Ron Watkins)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

i have an si 5/80...i plugged in the microphone...no sound...
unplug the microphone...sound !...i have no idea why and i haven't
spent anytime trying to figure it out...
just something i didn't expect...
ron
From: howie@cfarer.boeing.com (Howie Modell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Filesharing won't startup .. help!
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:52:21 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Boeing Defense & Space Group

HELP!!!

This is actually a post on my wife's behalf.

They installed System 7.0 on her IIfx today, and everything works except
for the one thing she was hoping would work: filesharing.  When she goes
into the Sharing Setup CDEV and clicks on "START", it processes a moment
and
then she gets an Alert with the message, "An application 'unknown' has
expectedly quit.  System error id 33".  We've tried removing all non-Apple
inits and cdevs (except SAM 3.0.2), and the problem persists.

Has anyone any experience with this or a similar problem?

Please respond by email to: 
    howie@cfarer.boeing.com or howie@ssc-bee.boeing.com
    or howie@sitka.boeing.com

Thanx in advance.

+----All opinions expressed are mine and *NOT* my employers!----+
   howard modell, Boeing Defense & Space group, Seattle, WA
         howie@cfarer.boeing.com, h.modell@online.com,
         h.modell@ieee.org,   72376.252@compuserve.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.comm