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From: stuart@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Pearlman)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: place to eat near Arena Stage
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:50:54 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
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In article <1k4l4lINN3kg@mojo.eng.umd.edu> gsurbeck@eng.umd.edu (Gregory D. Surbeck) writes:
>
>	My girlfriend and I are going to a play at the Arena Stage,
>hopefully this weekend otherwise next month ("It's the Truth if You
>Think It is").  Are there any nearby restaurants that are relatively
>inexpensive (entrees <$20)?  Thank you in advance.

There are a number of restaurants down by the waterfront near Arena
Stage.  I've tried most of them, since I live in that neighborhood.
IMHO none of them are really that great, but they are for the most
part ok. I don't remember prices, I don't think any of them were more
than $20 for an entee, with the possible exeption of Le Rivage.

  Jenny's Chinese (in Waterside Mall) - I've never been too crazy
  about this one; there's better Chinese places over in Chinatown,
  which isn't that far away.

  The Gangplank - seafood, nice atmosphere, ok food.  I eat at
  the Gangplank more frequently than any of the others in this list,
  which says something, I guess.

  Hogates - never ate here (well, once for coffee).

  Phillips - overrated seafood place.  I've never liked any of the
  Phillips restaurants very much.

  Le Rivage - nice french place, may be > 20$ per entree.  I think
  they had some sort of pre-theater special, though.

  El Toritos - not my style, I don't like mexican, especially mexican
  chains.  Your milage may vary.

  H. R. Ribsters (I may have the initials confused) - I wasn't very
  impressed with this place; I don't plan on going back.  The beef
  ribs had lots of fat.

>
>Greg Surbeck
>gsurbeck@eng.umd.edu



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From: meltdown@eng.umd.edu (Salil Parikh)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Argentine Grill
Date: 23 Jan 1993 08:08:01 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: dc
NNTP-Posting-Host: tea.eng.umd.edu

Has anybody went to the Argentine Grill (across from Meskerem someplace-
in-DC)?  Any comments?
From: cawilco@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Chris A. Wilcox)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Re: place to eat near Arena Stage
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:18:29 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: The Great Beyond

In article <1k4l4lINN3kg@mojo.eng.umd.edu> gsurbeck@eng.umd.edu (Gregory D. Surbeck) writes:
>
>	My girlfriend and I are going to a play at the Arena Stage,
>hopefully this weekend otherwise next month ("It's the Truth if You
>Think It is").  Are there any nearby restaurants that are relatively
>inexpensive (entrees <$20)?  Thank you in advance.
>
My wife and I went to see that play at Arena (great show!) and we
ate at 700 Water Street (which is the name of the place as well as
the address). They have a pre-theatre dinner menu for $16.95, which
includes:

- Caesar Salad or soup
- Choice of 3 entrees (they were chicken picatta, prime rib, or
  the catch of the day) with your choice of starch, and vegetables
- Dessert (cheesecake, chocolate mousse, or raspberry sorbet)
- Tea or coffee

The food is very good, and the service was good as well. Our waitress
was very personable, and very conscientious about getting us out the
door to make the curtain. All in all a very enjoyable dining experience.

Enjoy the show!
-- 
Chris Wilcox                | "Would you like to do something for which God
Dept. of Defense            |    Himself will pin a medal on your chest?"
cawilco@afterlife.ncsc.mil  |    'It's the Truth (if you think it is)'
  The views represented here probably aren't held by the DoD. Get over it.
From: gsurbeck@eng.umd.edu (Gregory D. Surbeck)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: place to eat near Arena Stage
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:31:17 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
NNTP-Posting-Host: mountaindew.eng.umd.edu


	My girlfriend and I are going to a play at the Arena Stage,
hopefully this weekend otherwise next month ("It's the Truth if You
Think It is").  Are there any nearby restaurants that are relatively
inexpensive (entrees <$20)?  Thank you in advance.

Greg Surbeck
gsurbeck@eng.umd.edu
From: kevinob@access.digex.com (K. O'Brien)
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: Korean grocery stores S.E. of DC
Date: 22 Jan 1993 03:38:10 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications Service, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: dc
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com


I am wondering if anyone knows of any good Korean grocery stores southeast of DC.  This is for a friend of mine who has a Korean wife.  If you can help me, please reply to gryphon@access.digex.com.  

Thanks!
Kevin O'Brien
gryphon@access.digex.com

From: Lorenzo.Ellis@f231.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Lorenzo Ellis)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.dining
Subject: What is your favorite ste
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:43:00 -0500

Morton's of TYSONS gets mine!
From: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
Subject: Clinton has started
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:00:34 GMT
Reply-To: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


It is my understanding that the Department of State has, as of 22 Jan
92, ceased to issue any 'Form 6' importation of firearms licenses.

The war against RTKBA has officially started.

Frank Ney N4ZHG EMT-A  LPVa NRA ILA GOA CCRTKBA "M-O-U-S-E"
Commandant and Acting President, Northern Virginia Free Militia
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individuals...I consider such laws a violation of civil liberty, 
subversive of democratic political institutions, and self-defeating
in their purpose."
        - Robert Heinlein, in a 1949 letter concerning "Red Planet"
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From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Subject: Re: Clinton has started
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:39:27 GMT


What's a "Form 6"?
From: mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum)
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
Subject: Re: Gun control
Date: 28 Jan 1993 14:58:24 GMT
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.tis.com

m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY) writes:
>All right, I can see your mind is set in concrete so this message is
>probably futile.

	Actually, I'm mostly interested in trying to figure out the
thought system you're employing. You assume my mind is set in concrete...?
So - I guess that means you know my opinions about gun laws? Would
you care to hazard a few guesses about how I vote and how many guns
I own?

>If you want to give in to the criminals, fine.  Be a sheep.

	You're mindlessly blatting generic NRA invective and it's
boring. My observations attempted to inject a note of reality into
the context of your previous statements. You have implied that having
guns helps prevent crime. I described a situation in which someone
had the drop on me, and postulated that whether or not I'd been armed
was irrelevant.

	Please explain how that is "giving in to the criminals"?
You didn't answer my implied question as to how having a gun helps
defend you if someone gets the drop on you, and you haven't made
a convincing argument that having everyone go armed helps fight
crime. Is there evidence of this? Certainly, there is excellent
evidence that being *disarmed* doesn't fight crime either, but
the NRA logic consistently ignores the fact that it does not
mean that arming everyone will help.

	Crime is a complex problem. I find your oversimplistic
view of solving it (being ready to shoot first, deterrent) to be
kind of poorly thought out. Deterrence has proven effective in
military situations *only* in cases where preemptive strike is
not feasible. Unfortunately, guns are excellent tools for
preemptive strikes.

	In other words, you have a lot of neat verbiage but I don't
see you offering a workable solution.

>But don't expect me to live by your rules and don't dare attempt to
>force your ideas on me by way of passing laws preventing me to defend
>myself, because that is the direct result of gun control.

	The gist of this statement appears to be that gun control
prevents you from defending yourself. Therefore are you implying
that un-control of guns helps you defend yourself? Is this your
position?
	If free access to guns helps you defend yourself, how do
you reconcile that with the fact that guns are constantly being
used on the defenceless? Are you arguing that we should all be
required by law to carry guns, like we are to wear seatbelts?
Do you feel that this would *reduce* gun related incidents? Please
justify this position.

> When honest
>people are forced by law to submit to crooks, we get high crime rates.

	You didn't note the fact that in my earlier posting I never
mentioned whether I was carrying a gun at the time. The fellow had
the drop on me. Had I been carrying  agun, would it have helped?

	I just want to hear you say that carrying a gun makes you
safer, so I can laugh so hard my sides hurt.

mjr.
-- 
                                                 "guns don't die. people do."
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: Re: Clinton has started
Originator: kevin@dubhe
Reply-To: kevin@clsi.com
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 16:55:48 GMT


In article <1944@tnc.UUCP>, m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY) writes:
> 
> It is my understanding that the Department of State has, as of 22 Jan
> 92, ceased to issue any 'Form 6' importation of firearms licenses.
> 
> The war against RTKBA has officially started.
> 

Like the USA really needs to import firearms ?

Kev.
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From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Subject: Re: Clinton has started
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:38:08 GMT


    FRANK> Clinton has signed nothing yet.  It is just my
    FRANK> understanding that the State Department is following his
    FRANK> wishes.  No paper trail exists yet.

Really? Interesting. Where have you read this?  What is Clinton's
publicly stated stance on the issue?
From: mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum)
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
Subject: Re: Gun control
Date: 27 Jan 1993 23:37:03 GMT
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.tis.com

m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY) writes:
>[...] if things were truly
>right in this world, your fellow citizens would have the will and the
>tools to cover your back, because you'd be doing the same for them.

	What planet do you come from? If things were "truly right in
the world" my wife and I wouldn't have had to curtail our evening walks
in certain parts of the neighorhood because some fellow with a "legitimate
sporting firearm" or "freedom preserving anti-government oppression device"
or whatever you want to call it chose to use it instead to relieve us of
our spare cash.

	Are you trying to imply that "if things were truly right in
the world" he would have been blasted down in a hail of gunfire from
my freedom-loving fellow citizens? Or are you saying I should have
had a gun of my own and tried to outdraw him there on the corner?
Perhaps you're right, I should have resisted oppression by getting
gutshot so he could appreciate what a horrible thing a bullet wound
is.

	"If things were truly right in the world" you wouldn't need
a gun for self defence. Faugh!

mjr.
-- 
                                                 "guns don't die. people do."
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
From: ack@dgp.toronto.edu (Andy Brownbill)
Subject: Re: Gun control
Distribution: usa
Date: 25 Jan 93 03:50:39 GMT

dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey) writes:

>>> But, I have to question the belief system that causes you to 
>>> have a problem with concealment.  Is it the fact that the weapon
>>> is concealed that is a problem to be solved, or is the danger 
>>> something to do with the person who is carries the weapon?
>>
>>Ideally no civilian should need to carry a concealed gun, therefore people
>>carrying guns would be either criminals or mentally deranged.

>What does that have to do with reality?  Ideally?  

For some reason, I seem to be getting this group. I have been silently
reading it for the last three months; mailing certain posts to my
friends. You see, nobody that I know in Canada carries a concealed
weapon of any type. I live in the downtown core of Toronto, Ontario,
which, if it isn't Canada's largest city, is certainly in the top
three. Nobody I know here carries a gun and, IMHO, nobody here really
needs to carry a gun. 


Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Subject: Re: Clinton has started
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:15:51 GMT


>>>>> "FRANK" == FRANK NEY <m0102@tnc.UUCP> writes:

    FRANK> The war against RTKBA has officially started.

Has Clinton signed some executive order starting this "war"?
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
From: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
Subject: Re: Gun control
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:57:32 GMT
Reply-To: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


You may only *need* to have a firearm once in your lifetime.

That's due to the possibility that when you *need* it you won't *have*
it, thus setting yourself up to go down without much of a struggle.

Frank Ney N4ZHG EMT-A  LPVa NRA ILA GOA CCRTKBA "M-O-U-S-E"
Commandant and Acting President, Northern Virginia Free Militia
Send e-mail for an application and more information
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"Whether the authorities be invaders or merely local tyrants, the 
effect of such [gun] laws is to place the individual at the mercy of 
the state, unable to resist."
       - Robert Heinlein, in a 1949 letter concerning "Red Planet"
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From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: Re: Gun control
Originator: kevin@dubhe
Reply-To: kevin@clsi.com
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 02:24:29 GMT


In article <1947@tnc.UUCP>, m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY) writes:
> 
> The reason why we have escallating crime rates is the attitude of you
> and people like you: "We can't win so let's give up."  Bullhockey!

Who were you replying to, and what are you saying they are giving up ?

Kev.

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From: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
Subject: Re: Gun control
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:23:30 GMT
Reply-To: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


All right, I can see your mind is set in concrete so this message is
probably futile.

If you want to give in to the criminals, fine.  Be a sheep.

But don't expect me to live by your rules and don't dare attempt to
force your ideas on me by way of passing laws preventing me to defend
myself, because that is the direct result of gun control.  When honest
people are forced by law to submit to crooks, we get high crime rates.
 Your own city is most likely a perfect example of this, if your wife
is afraid to be in certain parts of it.
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From: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
Subject: Re: Clinton has started
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:00:11 GMT
Reply-To: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Clinton has signed nothing yet.  It is just my understanding that the
State Department is following his wishes.  No paper trail exists yet.
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From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: Safe Ammo (oxymoron ?)
Originator: kevin@clsi
Reply-To: kevin@clsi.com
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 16:30:42 GMT


(Hi Doug,)

I was down at "On Target" and noticed that they sell Blue Glaser "Safety"
ammunition in most calibres, it is designed for low penetration/ricochet but
high stopping power - looked like just the stuff to load in that assault rifle
I keep under the bed :-)

Kev.

PS: Does anyone like the lightweight high-capacity Glock 9mm semi-auto ?
    - I think it sucks.
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From: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
Subject: Re: Gun control
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:56:48 GMT
Reply-To: m0102@tnc.UUCP (FRANK NEY)
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


No one is going to be able to defend themselves against a sniper or
sneak attack unless you are very lucky or the attacker is incompetent,
which fortunately is the case in street violence.

No one has eyes in the back of their head, but if things were truly
right in this world, your fellow citizens would have the will and the
tools to cover your back, because you'd be doing the same for them.

The reason why we have escallating crime rates is the attitude of you
and people like you: "We can't win so let's give up."  Bullhockey!

Frank Ney N4ZHG EMT-A  LPVa NRA ILA GOA CCRTKBA "M-O-U-S-E"
Commandant and Acting President, Northern Virginia Free Militia
Send e-mail for an application and more information
----------------------------------------------------------------
"...I am opposed to all attempts to license or restrict the arming of
individuals...I consider such laws a violation of civil liberty, 
subversive of democratic political institutions, and self-defeating
in their purpose."
        - Robert Heinlein, in a 1949 letter concerning "Red Planet"
-- 
The Next Challenge - Public Access Unix in Northern Va. - Washington D.C.
703-803-0391 To log in for trial and account info.
From: mjr@tis.com (Marcus J Ranum)
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
Subject: Re: Gun control
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:02:07 GMT
Organization: Trusted Information Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.tis.com

>You may only *need* to have a firearm once in your lifetime.
>That's due to the possibility that when you *need* it you won't *have*
>it, thus setting yourself up to go down without much of a struggle.

	This is a good point, unfortunately it's mostly nonsense.

	What makes you so sure you're going to get an opportunity
to struggle? From everything I've read about the many shootings in
our area, most of the time it's not a bullet swap-fest, but rather
someone pulls a gun and shoots the other fellow before the poor
bastard even has a good idea what's going on. Depending on who you
are dealing with, being prepared doesn't even enter into the
picture. The alternative is to carry a gun and be constantly
ready to use it, to keep someone from getting the drop on you, and
in that case it seems people tend to shoot mailmen and housemates
more often than not.

	This isn't the wild west you know. When one of our home
boys decides he's gonna do you, he's not going to yell "Draw!"
first. You'll go down without a struggle, with your gun in your
pocket, just like the rest of them.

mjr.
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                                                 "guns don't die. people do."
Newsgroups: dc.talk.guns
From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Subject: Re: Gun control
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.
	<1943@tnc.UUCP> <1k0vdfINN7k1@sol.tis.com> <1947@tnc.UUCP>
Distribution: usa
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:35:59 GMT


    FRANK> The reason why we have escallating crime rates is the
    FRANK> attitude of you and people like you: "We can't win so let's
    FRANK> give up."  Bullhockey!

This is just rhetoric right? The rise in crime rates has much more
subtle reasons; reasons, IMO society continues to avoid addressing.
Let me ask you, what steps would you take to reverse the trends in
crime that we've seen over the last 10 years or so?  Taken in
isolation, I'm not convinced gun control (or lack thereof) would have
much effect on the crime rate either way.  And I don't think tougher
enforcement in and of itself has or is going to do much good. This
nation's social health is much like your own personal health -
prevention is *much* more effective than reaction.

Can we all agree that if there wasn't so much (perceived?) gun related
violence we wouldn't be having this discussion?  If so, how does
society most effectively reduce this (perceived?) gun related
violence?
From: beglin@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Gordon Beglin)
Newsgroups: dc.forsale
Subject: 1978 Fiesta For Sale (CHEAP)
Date: 28 Jan 93 11:53:34 GMT
Reply-To: beglin@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Gordon Beglin)
Distribution: dc
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


I have a high-mileage Fiesta with many spare parts that is
available for under $200.00...

It needs a new transmission (which I have) and a clutch to be very
road-worthy.

I also have TONS of new and used parts for it...
Currently, it has the XR2 head, intake, and solex carb...In its
earlier life, it ran great! Very rebuildable..

Anyone with a Fiesta that needs a parts-car or to use as a
fixer-upper should take a look at this one.
The car is located in Mt. Airy, about 15 miles east of Frederick.

After one week, it'll be turned into Pepsi cans....going, going.....

Contact me via e-mail at this address.

Thanks,
Gordon Beglin
Newsgroups: dc.forsale
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: stuff for sale or trade
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:30:18 GMT



For Sale or trade:  (6) 1-MB 36-bit SIMMs.

These just came out of my Compaq Deskpro 486/M.  They are good for several
different types of Compaq computers, as well as any other place that you can
use a 32-bit SIMM.  I know that the new HP Laserjet III's use these SIMMs as
well.  They are also used in SUN's, Zenith PC's, and other advanced computers.
With the rising costs of RAM, these pices will be going up soon.

I am asking $33 each plus shipping.

I also have an Intel 486SX/16 processor chip.  I just upgraded to an overdrive
version of this chip, and hence no longer need it.  I would like $150 for it.

I also have (2) buslogic (was bustek) ISA 16-bit SCSI host adapters.  They use
the same command set as the Adaptec 1542B.  I also have the latest ROMs from
buslogic to go with them.  I am asking $200 each.

I also have an HP IGC-10 graphics coprocessor.  About 18 months ago I paid
$1600 for the board to run it under SCO Open Desktop.  SCO has been forced to
drop support, since HP wouldn't help them, and now I have no use for it.  It
has a 60MHz TI34010, and 1MB of both VRAM and DRAM.  It is capible of
1024x768x256.  I would like to at least pay for the RAM on the board, and that
cost me $500.  Make me an offer, and I'll see if I can get all the latest
drivers from HP.

Again, I am willing to sell or trade.  My system runs SCO Open Desktop, and I
could really use an external SCSI drive, or a better video board that is
supported by SCO.  A motherboard wouldn't be turned down either.  I'm easy.
This stuff all works, and I'm in no hurry, so make me an offer, and well make a
deal.

-- 
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"They're not ghosts,  they're metaphysically challenged." - Me
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Newsgroups: dc.forsale
From: elfering@socrates.umd.edu (David J. Elfering)
Subject: Trade IBM AT for a Mac Plus/SE
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:15:39 GMT