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From: kenm@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (...Jose)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: Origin of "womyn" spelling
Date: 11 Nov 1992 16:39:17 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
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In article <1dpm7lINNpp7@agate.berkeley.edu> renzland@gov.on.ca (Peter Renzland) writes:
>Is this spelling simply a modern neologism or is it based on something
>old?  I've heard suggestions that it may be an old form, but haven't
>been able to confirm this.  What few dictionaries I've seen say it
>comes from middle-english/anglo-saxon "wifmann" (wife of man).  This
>would seem to contradict the historical basis for the "womyn" spelling.

	Although I don't have the citation at hand, I have read another,
less politically useful, derivation of "woman".  It is said to have, indeed,
come from "wifman", but meaning "female person", corresponding to "wereman",
meaning "male person" (comp. to "werewolf").  Of course, there is still
the issue of how the generic "man" came to mean males, while the gender-
specific term was retained for females.


				....Jose

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From: gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: Gender rabies?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 14:34:42 GMT
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bickis@skmath1.pa.dec.com (Mik Bickis) is concerned about the
possible feminist move to eliminate gender although I'm not
sure what system he sees as desirable.

bickis@skmath1.pa.dec.com (Mik Bickis) writes:
| We should eliminate gender because it leads to sexism.

celeste%express@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov (Celeste) writes:
| I believe that we should not elimin[a]te "gender" but "gender" expectations
| base[d] on sex. Sex and gender are not the same. The current expectations
| is that they are! From personal experience, I know they are NOT!
| 
| Masculine is not the sole property of males. Femin[in]e is not
| the sole property of females. ...

True enough; but I wonder why we have to confine ourselves
to two genders.  If membership were voluntary and imperma-
nent, the possibility of sexism -- or I should say genderism --
would probably be eliminated.  And life, it seems, would be
a lot more interesting.
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From: gatech!r-node.gts.org!ndallen@ncar.UCAR.EDU (Nigel Allen)
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Subject: Vietnam Women's Memorial Project Kicks Off Countdown to Dedication in 1993
Date: 12 Nov 1992 18:03:32 GMT
Organization: Echo Beach, Toronto
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Here is  a press release from the Vietnam Women's Memorial Project Inc.

 Vietnam Women's Memorial Project Kicks Off Countdown to Dedication
in 1993
 To: National and Assignment desks, Veterans Affairs writers
 Contact: Mary Beth Newkumet, 301-649-6565, or
          Diana Hellinger, 202-328-7253, for the
          Vietnam Women's Memorial Project Inc.

   WASHINGTON, Nov. 11  -- On Thursday, Nov. 12, the Vietnam 
Women's Memorial Project (VWMP) will kick off its countdown 
to dedication of the first memorial in the nation's capital to 
honor American military women.
   At a special ceremony in Washington, D.C. at 10 a.m. EST, National
Park Service Regional Director Robert Stanton will join veterans from
all over the country in marking the site of the approved memorial,
300 feet southeast of the statue of the three infantrymen on the
grounds of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
   After a ten-year grassroots effort, the Vietnam Women's Memorial
will be dedicated next year on Veterans Day (Nov. 11) during a
three-day "Celebration of Patriotism and Courage," Nov. 10 to 12,
1993, honoring the women who served.  Work on the approval design, a
bronze sculpture-in-the-round of three military women and a wounded
soldier, is currently underway in Santa Fe, N.M., by sculptor Glenna
Goodacre.
   According to VWMP founder and chair Diane Carlson Evans, R.N.,
excitement about the dedication is catching on all over the country.
"We get calls in the office every day now from men and women veterans
and their families asking for details so they can make their travel
arrangements.  Many people are saving up now to be able to come next
year.  We're thrilled with the response because we want them all
here."
   The VWMP must finish raising $2 million for the design,
construction, landscaping, perpetual maintenance fee for the memorial
and next year's dedication ceremonies.  Tax-deductible contributions
can be sent to the VWMP, 2001 S St., N.W., Suite 302, Washington,
D.C., 20009.  Vietnam women veterans are encouraged to send their
service information and current address to receive updates on
dedication events.
 -30-


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From: usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Uma M Subramanian)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: email discussion group for south asian women
Date: 11 Nov 1992 19:33:48 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
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There is an email discussion group for south asian women which has
been set up recently. Women from the south asian countries as well 
as women from other parts of the world interested in the issues that
concern south asian women are welcome to join this discussion group.
This group is not open to men as it is set up now. Women who would 
like to join this mailing list should send mail to 

usubrama@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

OR

susanc@helix.nih.gov

Uma Subramanian



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From: andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: camille paglia
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:05:18 GMT
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Who is she? Why do people hate her so much?


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From: arosen@oregon.uoregon.edu (Ava Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: recent discussion of rape
Date: 11 Nov 1992 00:06:36 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
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 I would like to expand the discussion of rape to include emotional rape. These
are situations in which one person is lied to so that she WANTS to go to bed
with the man. Such situations often occur with married men who persuade
themselves and the victim that he is falling in love and that he will likely
leave his wife for the victim. Ofcourse this can happen in reverse gender
situations, but it is more likely to occur with men as the perpetrators.

Any time a lie is utilized to cause someone who would otherwise say 'no' to say
'yes', I believe this constitutes emotional rape, for it often emanates from a
sexist world view that divorces sex from the energy of the heart.


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From: jpz@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: soc.feminism
Subject: Re: My Young Friend Was "Date Raped"...
Date: 5 Nov 1992 22:09:45 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University
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[Moderator's note: excessive included text trimmed.]

In article <1dbogmINNa89@agate.berkeley.edu>, pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
> In article <1d9m1oINNc9@agate.berkeley.edu> carroll@cs.uiuc.edu (Alan M. Carroll) writes:
>>In article <1d6tbtINNf5q@agate.berkeley.edu>, celeste%express@freedom.msfc.nasa.gov (Celeste) writes:
>>> This is one that is thought provoking:
>>> 
>>> "I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has
>>> not
>>>  been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire."
>>> 		-- Robin Morgan, current editor of Ms. Magazine, in 1974
[...]
> Logical flaw. Morgan claims that lack of initiation&affection&desire
> on the woman's part is _sufficient_ for rape, but nowhere does she
> claim it is _necessary_. There may be any number of other situations
> that also constitute rape, [...]
True, but the Morgan's definition does imply the following:

"Any act of heterosexual intercourse initiated by a man is rape."

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Newsgroups: soc.college
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: This "Frat" discussion...
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:58:40 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <Bx5uBA.JLE@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:
> In <1992Nov3.023743.1@woods.ulowell.edu> murphyed1@woods.ulowell.edu (The Butler) writes:
> 
>>It continually baffles me that anyone would foolishly waste their time posting
>>anything to do with Fraternitys on this group.  From what I've seen over the
>>past year or so, it seems to be Good 'ole Ted against the entire world of
>>fraternitys.  I stopped bothering ...  (He has got to become a good lawyer, he
>>is utterly annoying!)
> 
> Based on the bibliography that Ted posted, I understand his arguments.  I've
> never seen any responding bibliography from fraternity members, so I
> can't speak for the validity of their arguments.  It is clear, I suspect,
> to the majority who is winning this argument.
> 

Am I the only person to have actually researched that bibliography?
Unless you've actually READ said articles, I don't think that you can say with
any certainty that the citations are any good.


Mike
Newsgroups: soc.college,can.general,bc.general
From: jhh4889@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.H. Huebner)
Subject: Re: Frats
Originator: jhh4889@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:45:15 GMT


>
>>At CMU, a private university, the greek system forms the backbone of the
>>campus social structure.  No part of the Greek system is recognized by
>>the student senate, and no funding is provided to any house.  Who we
>>initiate is our business, as we (and the college) see it.

Just a reality check, I went to CMU too. The greek system is NOT the
backbone of the social structure there are MANY very active
alternative social orginizations for almost any interest. The
afformentioned senate consists mostly of members of these
organizations. Also I would argue that the most powerfull and in my
opinion healthiest Fraternity on campus is APhiO the National _CO-ED_
sevice fraternity. Go ahead make your argument but make it with valid
points.

-John Huebner
-Brother APhiO
-jh6p@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Easy way to find E-mail addresses -- Netfind
From: censtad@dion.gac.edu (Christopher B Enstad)
Date: 11 Nov 92 11:01:30 -0600
Distribution: all
Keywords: e-mail


In article <aelman.721460918@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>  writes:
> schuyler@acf9.nyu.edu (Gabriel M. Schuyler) writes:
> 
> >Well, now that I've seen about a dozen posts of "How to I write to XX  
at
> >suchandsuch college?"   I figured I should share this info.  You can  
use the
> >netfind server at cs.colorado.edu to find people.  just:
> 
> [instructions deleted]
> 
> Just so people don't get your hopes up _too_ much, I was unable to
> find myself using netfind a couple of times.  But it's worth trying, I
> guess. :-)
> 
> Who knows, maybe I just don't have the touch. :-)
> 
> Adam Elman
> aelman@cs.stanford.edu

that's ok....not everyone at Stanford can expect to get ALL the attention  
they deserve.
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: cs_jh@cox.nsac.ns.ca (Dr Jeff Hoyle)
Subject: Email address for Lebanon Valley College, PA WANTED
Summary: need email address for LVC in Pa
Keywords: address wanted, LVC, Pa
Organization: NS Agricultural College
Distribution: all
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:06:33 GMT

Hi,
I have a simple question:

Can anyone help me out with an Internetable address for Lebanon Valley 
College in Pennsylvania.  Please post or email.  Thanks
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: soc.college,dartmouth.politics
Subject: Re: Dartmouth vs. Yale
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:54:35 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School
Disclaimer: I don't represent Dartmouth and Dartmouth doesn't represent me.

In <JIM.92Nov6121933@fuji.eng.yale.edu> jim@fuji.eng.yale.edu (James J. Szinger) writes:

>When a dartmouth college student running at full speed collides
>with a musician in the Yale University Band who is standing
>still, calling it an "accident" really stretches my imagination.

I've already expressed my disdain for the students who rushed the field so
I won't repeat all that. But to be fair, both groups (the freshmen and the
bands) were in motion. It seems very plausible to me that a band member
who is concentrating on her performance and a 'shmen who is looking over
his shoulder for the police could collide accidentally in a space as small
as a football field.

>These hoodlums deliberately choose to trespass and rush the
>field.  That was not an accident.  In addition, they decided to
>run at speeds where they couldn'y avoid colliding with stationary
>musicians.  That was an act of willful recklessness.  We must
>also consider the possibility that some dartmouth frosh
>deliberately ran into members of the Yale Band.  That would be
>assault and battery.  I find too much evidence of premeditation
>for this to be brushed off as a mere accident.

There is all sorts of evidence that people planned ahead of time to rush
the field but the Yale band was not the target. I believe that any
collisons that occured on the playing field were accidental. This probably
isn't worth debating as neither of us is likely to change our mind.
With that said, accidental or not, anyone who collided with a band member
while rushing the field illegally bears full responsibility in my book.
But there is a difference between iressponsible tresspass and criminal
assault. Both are illegal but the motive and intent differ.

>This was by far the least friendly football game I have ever
>witnessed.  I have felt safer late at night in Harlem.  The
>students who rushed the field have brought disgrace to
>themselves, their class, their school, the Ivy League, and all
>American colleges and Universities.

I'd be the last person to defend someone who rushes the field at Memorial
Stadium but don't you think you're laying it on a bit thick?

-Geoff Bronner
 Dartmouth Alumnus
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From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: False fire alarms: Are they a problem for you?
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:30:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA

fxlof@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Liam O Forbes) writes:

>	Yes, I think false fire alarms are a problem all over the place.
>	The other day a couple of guys were playing koosh baseball in the  
>hall while the RA made fun of their pitching.  I went into the bathroom,  
>sat down to go and the next thing I hear is a solid thump, someone saying  
>"oh shit" and the fire alarm goes off.  Turns out the dust in it got  
>stirred up when the koosh ball was thrown into it and it set off the smoke  
>detector.  The way a false alarm is handled when the culprits are known is  
>they all have to pay the university $250.  If the culprits aren't known,  
>everybody who lives on the floor where the alarm was set off has to pay  
>$250.  I don't know if this is effective in stopping the prank alarms, but  
>it sure makes the university fire department rich.  -Liam

Huh -- that reminds me of the time our RA was playing with a koosh
ball last year and accidentally hit the fire alarm, setting it off
himself.  Luckily, he knew the correct procedure to let the fire
department know it was a false alarm, so nobody was charged. :-)  We
had a lot of laughs about that...

Other than that, though, we've never had much of a problem with fire
alarm-pulling.  Even when I lived in an all-freshman dorm, we only had
it pulled maybe once or twice the entire year.  Now that I'm in an
upper-class dorm, we have yet to have it happen.  And as far as I
know, it's fairly rare on the entire Stanford campus.

Oh well...

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: jim@fuji.eng.yale.edu (James J. Szinger)
Subject: Re: Saturday's riot at Dartmouth: Unnecessary and Preventable!!!
Organization: Yale University, Intelligent Sensors Lab, Elect. Eng.
	<1992Oct27.165801.2954@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:56:28

In article <1992Oct27.165801.2954@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner) writes:

>If there had been a deliberate intent to harm the Yale (or Dartmouth) band
>members I would agree. I'm not sure if I would use the word 'uncivilized'
>but I get your point.
>Since the Freshmen on the field and Yale band members literally collided
>by accident there are a number of negative words you can hurl around but
>uncivilized doesn't really fit.

I agree that the word uncivilized is inappropriate.  Criminal is
a much more accurate term.

--
James Szinger                        jim@fuji.eng.yale.edu

"He was born with a gift of laughter and a sense that the world was mad."
Newsgroups: soc.college
From: navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Temple University Directory
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:11:00 GMT
Organization: Boston University

Howdy.  Could someone out there tell me how I could find the phone
number of someone at Temple University (in Philadelphia, I guess)?  A
student directory number or something would be best, although if some
kind soul would be willing to make a local (for them) call and get me
the info I need, I'd be very grateful.

Please e-mail me directly to avoid cluttering up this group...Thanks!

					Dipesh (navsaria@bu-pub.bu.edu)
From: cholette@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Cholette Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Re: Cheat sheets
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:59:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Universite de Montreal

>In article <40899@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> dlou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Dennis Lou) writes:
>>
>>
>>Anyone else have any ideas for a good cheat sheet?
>>

Well, for one of my classes the teaher handed out his own class notes (typed!)
Basically all he did was recopy them to the board,  which made for some very,
very boring classes!  But when finals came around we took the sheets, photo-
copied them,  sliced and diced them to reduce wasted space and then reduced them
sevral times with a photocopier.  Naturally you will need a good machine (laser)
We managed to get ALL of his notes (from day 1 with no missing information) on
to 1 peice of paper!  We all used magafying glasses but he we all got A+!

Of course your teacher may require you to hand write the notes, in which case yo

u simply do your best to write as small as possible!

Michael Bertrand,
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cholette@jsp.umontreal.ca
From: buenoa@pell2l20.alleg.edu (Alicia Bueno)
Subject:  E-mail address of  Macalister College in MN.
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:30:33 GMT

How the Hell do I get into Mac's address listing?  If any one knows please  
let me know.
					Thank you.
From: dlou@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Dennis Lou)
Newsgroups: soc.college
Subject: Cheat sheets
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:23:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, San Diego


In one of my classes, the professor said he would allow an 8.5"x11"
cheat sheet on the midterm exam.  He was also saying that in the past
years, creative students brought 3 and 4 dimensional 8.5x11 cheat sheets.
Since this was an engineering class dealing with problems in n-space,
he allowed it and chalked it up to creativity.

One idea I had for a cheat sheet is to overlay multiple pages on one
cheat sheet using a different color for each page.  Then at the exam,
just whip out your color filters (like those goofy 3-D glasses) to
view each page.

Anyone else have any ideas for a good cheat sheet?

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dlou@ucsd.edu          || "Then I'd be crazy to think any other way!"
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