From: c60c-2gs@web-3f.berkeley.edu (Lone Wolf)
Subject: Re: Kor episode 48 (**spoilers!**)
Keywords: KOR kiss episode 48
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:32:55 GMT



Hi, Doug,

In article <1992Dec14.180853.3768@pegasus.com> you write:

>	If the Oav's take place (any of them) after episode 48, (and if
>you assume that Madoka does know about Kyosuke's esp), wouldn't there
>be some sign of it?  (Again, I don't know, I've only seen 4 oav's.. I
>think Hurricane!  Akane.. is after episode 48, since he is 17 years old
>by then.)

	I thought the TV series ends with the couple about to graduate
from high school.  In that case, OVA should've taken place during the
summer/year before their senior year.  But the better reason has always
been that Madoka had no clue about Kyosuke's ESP power in the OVA's.
(I'll explain.)

>	I haven't seen the movie yet either..  any hints in there?  It
>really seemed to me that when Kyosuke decided to return to that 'tree
>scene' at the end, Madoka didn't remember anything.  Why?  Because the
>chronology of the episode was like this:

	It could be interpreted a little differently, IMHO. (I have
not see the movie either, but...)

>	1)  Kasuga is sleeping under the tree
>	2)  Madoka finds him there
>	3)  Kasuga learns of Madoka's first .. 6 years ago
>	4)  Kasuga goes 6 years back in time
>	5)  Kasuga meets the kid Madoka
>	6)  Kasuga & Ayukawa's *1st* kiss
>	7)  Grampa sends Madoka after Kyosuke
>	8)  Madoka learns of the esp ability

	This is as I remembered it.  However, Kyosuke did say that
he wish he had been more honest and told her sooner.  At that point,
knowing how Ayukawa distrust/dislike/fears the supernatural, he
was expecting her to distant herself away from him.  She didn't;
she laughted and said something like "So what the man I love happens
to be a ESPer?"

>	9)  Madoka says that she has fallen in love with him
>       10)  Kazuya comes back to fetch the pair

	Actually, he came to their rescue before that, but the couple
more or less ignored him until he coughed for attention, just before
the two could further show affection for each other. ;)

>       11)  Kyosuke decides on the time to turn in...

	No, that wasn't explicit.  One or both of them decided on
when to return; we only heard Kazuya asking, then next thing we
know we are at the tree again, 6 years later (but a few hours earlier).


>
>	Now doesn't Kyosuke decide to return to time period #1?
>
>	If he does, theoretically, #'s 3-11 don't quite happen as
>	they did before..
>

	Since we were inside Kyosuke's head at all time, we know
he remembers, and he knows how events will unfold next.  My interpreation
is that both of them remember, and chose to replay the scene, because:

	1. both of them realized now that the Ayukawa's first love was/is
	Kyosuke.  To go back to the point in time where Ayukawa teased
	him about he not being her "first love" is...romantic...  
	When Ayukawa re-mentions her "first" again, it now has even
	great meaning then the first time--it's no longer just a fond 
	memory from the past, but a truth of her life: she loves Koysuke,
	had, and always will.  [ok, sorta weak, but make poetic sense
	to me... :)]  

	2. Kyosuke wanted her to know about his ESP; he had always felt
	uneasy about deceiving her.  Remember that movie fiasco when 
	his power was filmed on video tape?  Remember how he wished that
	he had told her, instead of having her find out that way?  Now,
	6 year ago, when she finally knows, and accepts him--all of him,
	including his ESP powers, do you think he would give this up
	by manipulating it so she wouldn't remember/experience this
	at all?  Indicisive as he is, I don't think he was dumb enough
	to put things back the way it was, because this is what he
	really wanted all along...

	3. Kyosuke KISSED her, and she WASN'T surprised, but was EXPECTING
	it!!!!  Everyone, including Ayukawa, knows that Kyosuke is
	indicisive--not the type who normally would have to confidence
	to kiss a girl, especially Ayukawa.  So, when Auykawa mentions
	her "first," but wasn't surprised at all when Kyosuke replies
	"And he still loves you," then kissed her, it was obvious to me 
	that she remembered the trip through time as well.  

>Someone let me know what they think..  I think it's kinda up in the
>air, but that's my theory behind it..
>

	Yeah, it could be interpreted the other way easily, but I like
my version...:)  With #47 and #48 ending the series, I rather have it
as the two finally able touch heart to heart rather than a kiss to
cover a white lie...

>
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