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Newsgroups: alt.slack
Subject: Slack vampies!
From: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Anthony 'the Bard' Hobbs)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:39:47 GMT
Reply-To: hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

Haven't you poor, pathetic "Bob"bies figured it out yet?

Dobbs has stolen all your slack, your money, your self-respect, and, in extreme
cases, your virginity.

Now you go around compensating for this by stealing those self-same things from
the mindless innocent Pinks you prey on. What's worse, you don't get to keep 
them. "Bob" steals them, right back off ya.

Face it. You have been turned into ravening idiot vampires by "Bob", and you
spend your lives doing the same thing to everyone else. DOES THAT MAKE YA FEEL
GOOD? HUH? DOES IT???

Jim Qwax wants to help you. He wants to teach you to get free money and sex. And
you won't need to pay him $20, or any of that cursed SubGenius (pfaugh!) crap.
He just wants a six-pack. Not that love-in-a-canoe American gunk, either.
McHeady's Old Disgusting Ale, or other such Real Beer (tm).

ACT NOW! SUPPLIES ARE LIMITED! OFFER CLOSES SOON! EWIGE QWAXENKRAFT!
Anthony Hobbs		the Bard		hobbs_a@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
OverPope, First Holy and Unreformed Church of the Flying Spiral - Viva Qwax!
romantic poet - synth player extraordinaire - kate bush is god (she really is)
DISCLAIMER: The Wellington City Council agree with everything I say... NOT!!!
From: seward@CCVAX1.NCSU.EDU (Bill Seward)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Subject: Re: negativism: slackful?
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:16:32 GMT
Reply-To: seward@CCVAX1.NCSU.EDU
Organization: Surely you jest.

In article <392-JNEWS-2.1@smylex.UUCP>, Jeff Lee <jlee@smylex.UUCP> writes:
>In article <17-JNEWS-2.1@wonky.UUCP>, ornoth@wonky.UUCP (David A. Liscomb) writes:
>> 
>> Your_Insult: You just want me to feed upon your companion.
>You're_in_salt: You just won't let me breast-feed upon Dan O'Banion.
You're_in_sauce: You just won't let me eat in the Grand Canyon.

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From: rpwhite@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Subject: Re: The definitive Pro-Mavrides Rant-song
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:31:26 GMT
Reply-To: rpwhite@cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
Followup-To: alt.slack,misc.test
Organization: Monterey Bay Yacht Club, Monterey CA

sej5g@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Susan Elizabeth Juroff) writes:
>Was that "about putting women in" pissive or passive positions?
<deleted>

Hi Sue,
   Do you my old buddy Dob Robson?
Thought you might.

or did you just leave your terminal unattended?
From: bob@damage.bah.rochester.ny.us (Bob Lancette)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: nude massage
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:45:17 GMT
Organization: Damage Inc.


  That isn't to say that the breast/genetal areas can't be massaged. 
  Obviously, it depends on who you are with.  Sometimes a good massage is as
  much psychological as physical, and the possibility of that happening can
  add quite a bit to a good backrub.  But I'm tangent, I digress.

  I like to have my back walked on/"cracked" occasionally as well.  Probably 
  isn't good for me, but then what is anymore.

  I have a vertebrae(sp?) that is permanently out of place in my neck, it has 
  been that way for as long as I can remember, and doesn't usually cause me 
  any trouble, although certain motions and positions can cause me quite a bit
  of pain.  I have no interest in going to a professional bone bender, and was
  wondering if perhaps some of the professional backrubbers out there had any
  suggestions for me as to a temporary solution when I do manage to aggravate
  it.

  bob@damage.bah.rochester.ny.us
From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Rolfing -- has anyone tried it?
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:50:53 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <cstollen.5277@meltdown.chi.il.us>, cstollen@meltdown.chi.il.us
(Carolyn Stollen) writes:
>In article <15459@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, peerson@neyman.ucdavis.edu (Jan
>Peerson) writes:
>>I'm interested in hearing the experiences of anyone who has 
>>undergone structural integration, a.k.a. Rolfing.  Is it
>>worth the expense?

>Yes Jan, it is.  To help you believe that you can read a book by Ida Rolf
>called Rolfing: an integration of human structures, or something like 
>that.  Also a book by one of the Esalen teachers(old one) named Will Schutz
>I forgot the title, might be Joy.  He wrote another excellent one, something
>like Profound simplicity.
>

Okay, I give up...  What is "Rolfing", how much does it cost, etc, etc, etc...

Krikket               ! krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us ! USnail:3 Danada Square E.
a.k.a Doug Krick      ! Team Star Charter Member   !        Suite 246
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 'If you are what you eat, then I'm Dead Meat'  -- Timbuk 3 "Grand 'ol Party"
            
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: thurmond@helios.aero.org (Rick Thurmond)
Subject: Is oil necessary?
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation; El Segundo, CA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:24:16 GMT

I have found that in the massages I give (feet, hands, and backs mostly)
it is not necessary to use any oil, although virtually all the massage
books I have read devote a whole chapter to choosing oils and pretty
much say that a good massage can't be given without oil.  My technique
involves mostly squeezing, probing, rolling, pulling, flexing, and
slapping (the feet, that is) rather than rubbing against the skin.

I'd like to hear about other techniques for oil-less massage, whether
there are really useful things that can only be done with oil, and whether
there are other people who give the type of massage I do.  Where do
we make the distinction between back rubs (no oil, whatever feels good)
and massage (oil is mandatory, follow a technique)?

                                         --Rick



Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: dedek@meaddata.com (Mike Dedek)
Subject: Re: Will you walk on my back?
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:39:32 GMT

In article <NICKH.92Jul16202530@VOILA.VENARI.CS.CMU.EDU>, nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines) writes:
|> In article <alerman.0qry@terapin.com> alerman@terapin.com (Alexander
|> Lerman) asks about back-walking.
|> 
|> I get severe lower back pain, often brought on by driving any distance
|> more than 200 miles (I have very bad driving posture). Massage eases
|> the pain, but two years ago I discovered an instant cure: being walked
|> on by a friend: the pressure on my spine relieves the pain totally
|> inside of 10 seconds.
|> 
|> I've only ever tried this with friends in the 8-9 stone (112-126 lb)
|> weight range.
|> 
|> Nick Haines nickh@cs.cmu.edu

I get the same problem when driving.  Using a pillow or other lower back
support helps a great deal. My back still hurts, but it usually takes about
twice as long to get bad as it would without a pillow.

-Mike
From: alerman@terapin.com (Alexander Lerman)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Massage classes in Bay area?
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:41:09 PST
Organization: BBS

Do you know where I can find informal massage classes in the San Francisco
Bay area?

There seem to be plenty of certification schools but nothing for people that
just want to learn basic stuff for "personal enrichment". If you have any
leads, please let me know. 

Do you also have an interest in learning massage? Maybe we can practice on each
other if there are no other suitable alternatives. Please reply.

Thanks.

--
Alexander Lerman
<alerman@terapin.com>

Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: tnishi@kansas.Berkeley.EDU (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Subject: Re: Back to that migraine thread
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Computer Systems R&D Labs 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:57:03 GMT




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From: jhansen@plains.NoDak.edu (Joel L Hansen)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: test
Date: 24 Jul 92 05:08:20 GMT
Organization: North Dakota State University

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From: alerman@terapin.com (Alexander Lerman)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Is there a "massage" newsgroup?
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:57:56 GMT
Organization: BBS

... or is this it?

--
Alex Leman
<alerman@terapin.com>

"If that's all there is my friends, then let's keep dancing..."
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Subject: Electric massagers
Organization: City University, London
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:06:34 GMT

What is net.thought on the use of electric massagers? Are
they any good or is good old hand pressure better? I heard
of a device which you can strap to your hands and vibrates
them - is this useful and does anyone know more about it?

--
Lionel Tun   (lionel@cs.city.ac.uk)
Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Subject: Re: Is oil necessary?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:55:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.212416.24107@speedy.aero.org> thurmond@helios.aero.org (Rick Thurmond) writes:
>I have found that in the massages I give (feet, hands, and backs mostly)
>it is not necessary to use any oil, although virtually all the massage
>books I have read devote a whole chapter to choosing oils and pretty
>much say that a good massage can't be given without oil.  My technique
>involves mostly squeezing, probing, rolling, pulling, flexing, and
>slapping (the feet, that is) rather than rubbing against the skin.
>
>I'd like to hear about other techniques for oil-less massage, whether
>there are really useful things that can only be done with oil, and whether
>there are other people who give the type of massage I do.  Where do
>we make the distinction between back rubs (no oil, whatever feels good)
>and massage (oil is mandatory, follow a technique)?

I personally *greatly* prefer (giving and receiving) the long, gliding
strokes that can only be given with oil.  They just don't feel right
without it.  This is especially true on the back, while hands and feet
do not seem to benefit a whole lot from oil.	       

Probing, squeezing, etc. are good, but too specific without some additional
long strokes, IMHO.

Your choice for distinguishing between backrubs and massage doesn't seem
useful to me.  To me, a backrub is kind of a short massage.  The back
is probably the most important portion of a massage.  A lot of stress is
manifested within the back.  Both backrubs and full body massage are
improved, IMHO, with oil and with technique, but it is important in both
to be flexible and responsive in your technique (i.e., "whaterever feels
good" is important in both.).	   

Cheers. Bill.

-- 
Bill Arnett                            Internet: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca
From: ghosty@terapin.com (Noah Hanna)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Electric massagers
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:51:13 PST
Organization: BBS

 Quote: -=>
 I find that vibrating massagers help my muscles to relax a little bit,
but mostly just make me drowsy. So much for the alleged sexual
benefits of the vibrating beds you find in cheesy motels!

 
^
|quote

Hahaha I dunno about sexual benefit, (I dont believe we discuss those kind of
massagers here), but they can be convenient for those of us without a kind
partner or a decent masseuse (masseur?) handy. Besides, if you wake up at 2am
with a crick in your neck, then who do you turn to?...
  __     .  .     
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"Don't use drugs, put an end to preachy sit-com endings"
        -R.Sinclair
From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: nude massage
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:56:52 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <7L80NB1w164w@damage.bah.rochester.ny.us>,
bob@damage.bah.rochester.ny.us (Bob Lancette) writes:

> I have a vertebrae(sp?) that is permanently out of place in my neck, it has > been that way for as long as I can remember, and doesn't usually cause me 
> any trouble, although certain motions and positions can cause me quite a bit
> of pain.  I have no interest in going to a professional bone bender, and was
> wondering if perhaps some of the professional backrubbers out there had any
> suggestions for me as to a temporary solution when I do manage to aggravate
> it.

I may not be a professional backrubber, or bone bender, but I have had several car accidents and am suffering through the same thing...

Generally, I've found that a nice LONG neckrub from someone else tends to help out a lot.  (I've also found that attempting to do it yourself doesn't accomplish much, for in exersicing your arms, you tend to move and use the neck muscles at the same time...  Massaging a muscle in motion doesn't help a whole lot from my experience.)

Also, another think that I've found to be a life-saver (because at times the misplaced vertebrae cause muscles and tendons to tighten to the point of causing nearly unbearable headaches.) is to apply some Heat & Ice type of sports creme on the affected area.  It forces the muscles to loosen and that stops them from pulling the vertebrae further out of place, which prevents more uncomfort, and therefore more stress, therefore more tension in those muscles...  A nasty circle...

Krikket               ! krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us ! USnail:3 Danada Square E.
a.k.a Doug Krick      ! Team Star Charter Member   !        Suite 246
Data ph# 708/665-9732 ! #include<std.disclaimers>  !        Wheaton, Il 60187

 'If you are what you eat, then I'm Dead Meat'  -- Timbuk 3 "Grand 'ol Party"
            
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: tnishi@kansas.Berkeley.EDU (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Subject: Re: Back to that migraine thread
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Computer Systems R&D Labs 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:44:54 GMT



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From: peerson@neyman.ucdavis.edu (Jan Peerson)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Thanks for comments on Rolfing
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:06:17 GMT
Distribution: na

Thank you to all who posted comments about the Rolfing experience.
I attended a seminar/demonstration in Sacramento the other night,
and it looked interesting enough that my husband and I are both
going in for an introductory session on Tuesday.

-- Jan
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: hachul@wam.umd.edu (Sang Rok Lee)
Subject: Oil-Rubs (?)                        
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:45:30 GMT




Hi y'all...

I'd like to start giving hot-oil backrubs (??? geez... i don't even have 
the terminology straight) to my SO; but I have no idea where to start!

Where do I get the oils?
Which are good?
Cautions?
Techniques?

HELP!  Please e-mail me!  Thanks!
From: ghosty@terapin.com (Noah Hanna)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Massage classes in Bay area?
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:55:28 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <alerman.0w1q@terapin.com>, alerman@terapin.com (Alexander Lerman)
writes:
>Do you know where I can find informal massage classes in the San Francisco
>Bay area?
>
>There seem to be plenty of certification schools but nothing for people that
>just want to learn basic stuff for "personal enrichment". If you have any
>leads, please let me know. 
>
>Do you also have an interest in learning massage? Maybe we can practice on
each
>other if there are no other suitable alternatives. Please reply.
>
>Thanks.
>
>--
>Alexander Lerman
><alerman@terapin.com>
>
Hey, check out some of the bay area specific Net bases, or you can do like me
and check the phone book :)...
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 /_-host (/\)riter
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Skin-friendly oils?
From: kristen@telerama.pgh.pa.us (Kristen McQuillin)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:17:01 GMT
Organization: Telerama

I like Natural Solutions' "Seven Golden Massage Oils." It has a nice
lemon-y scent and is readily available at our local health food chain
(GNC). It contains sunflower seed oil, lemon oil, hazelnut oil, jojoba
oil, sweet almond oil, avocado oil, corn oil, chammomile and aloe
extracts and a few preservatives. It stays slippery while you work
with it, and soaks in without becoming sticky.

Natural Solutions also makes a massage Gel, which I do not recommend.
It evaporates too quickly as you work with it and has these weird
little green vitamin E pellets which are supposed to break easily
under the pressure of you hands, but don't.

You can make your own scented massage oils with sweet almond oil and
herbs of your choice. (I like mint.) Just put the chopped or whole
herb in the oil and let it sit until the oil picks up the scent (about
two weeks or so depending on the herb), then strain the oil and enjoy.
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: test
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:52:35 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1

In article <19316@plains.NoDak.edu> Joel L Hansen,
jhansen@plains.NoDak.edu writes:
>test

I guess he figures this group is so unimportant that no one will mind!  I
agree. This is my own test...
From: Kyle.Smalley@f25.n280.z1.fidonet.org (Kyle Smalley)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Is oil necessary?
Date: 31 Jul 92 05:55:02 GMT

>I have found that in the massages I give (feet, hands, and backs
>mostly)
>it is not necessary to use any oil, although virtually all the massage
>books I have read devote a whole chapter to choosing oils and pretty
>much say that a good massage can't be given without oil.  My technique
>involves mostly squeezing, probing, rolling, pulling, flexing, and
>slapping (the feet, that is) rather than rubbing against the skin.

I imagine I use similar techniques.  Like most people who don't know
much about "proper" massage techniques, I don't give massages on a
regular basis, but only on occassion where I am spending quiet time with
someone who happens to have sore, or more often, tense muscles.  For
these times, kneading, pounding, and other ways of applying repetitive
pressure seem to be quite effective.

After a recent sexual escapade involving baby oil however, I began to
realize the wider range of techniques that are possible with oil.  Oil
really is a whole new ball game.  I really don't know what I'm doing at
this point; I'll just have to experiment some more.  I kind of feel
dangerous now; Maybe I should read a book or something.


 * Origin: Howard's Notebook (816) 331-5868 (1:280/25)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: chimps@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Jen Schacher)
Subject: techniques
Reply-To: chimps@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:32:36 GMT

Anyone know a good book or video or some such thing to learn some
techniques from? I've had professional massage, but don't really 
know what I'm doing when I give one,and would like to learn without
having to pay for massage school.

Thanks!
Jen

Jen Schacher 
chimps@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
st891477@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: k_workman@csc32.enet.dec.com (Karen Workman)
Subject: Massages in Colorado
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 06:06:38 GMT


I've seen a couple of folks from Colorado participating in this forum and
was wondering if any of you can recommend a VERY good masseuse in the
Denver area.  Please use electronic mail.  Your reponses are GREATLY
appreciated!

Karen
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tuesday, 28 Jul 1992 18:08:33 MST
From: Kevin Tucker <ICKRT@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: re:Electric massagers

In my opinion, they distract more from the task at hand than they help.
They tended to hurt my hands when I would give a massage using them.

Kevin Tucker
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: tnishi@kansas.Berkeley.EDU (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Subject: Re: Back to that migraine thread
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Computer Systems R&D Labs 
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 04:41:38 GMT

	This past week, I tried to write my first followup posting but
something was screwed up with my machine, so I'll try again...

	I don't know if I get migraines since I've never gotten it checked
out, but I do on occasion get tremendous headaches that last me anywhere
from 24 to 48 hours...when I get these headaches, any slight movement of
the head sends a very painful jolt to my head...as if my head is exploding.
luckily this doesn't happen very often...
	I got one of these headaches before on the same day as my Tae Kwon
Do class that I was teaching during the summer...I thought about missing
class but decided to go anyway...half way through the class, I suddenly
noticed that there was no pain!  it was really strange seeing that I felt
that I was going to pass out before the class...I figured that it must 
have been from the intense aerobic style exercise that forced enough
oxygen to my brain to stop it from complaining. 
	just a thought.
=========================================================================
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R&D Support Dept(LSA), Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo-shi, Kyoto-fu 617  JAPAN
Tel:      [81] (075) 952-1945  ex. 3419
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Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: beowulf@wam.umd.edu (amealuh)
Subject: Re: Skin-friendly oils?
Summary: well.... 
Keywords: oil, softening
Organization: massage clinic: rubbers
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:20:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.135748.2896@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> molly@coos.dartmouth.edu (Revolver) writes:
>
>	I am interested in finding massage oils that not only are fragrant
>and facilitate the massage itself, but also leave the skin in a more
>luxurious state than when I began.
>
>	Essentially, something that produces roughly the effects of baby oil
>when worked into the skin over the course of a long massage, but doesn't
>smell quite so much like...pressed babies.
>

well, i dropped into the Body Shop and they have an oil that goes
for about $3 a bottle that works nicely for me. you can get it with
no scent at all, or with some mild scent (they had a selection of
about 30 different ones at the shop in my area.) i liked something
kind of clean, so i took a scent called juba, and the oil was more
theraputic than i expected.

amie


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Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: adrothst@athena.mit.edu (Andrew D Rothstein)
Subject: Re: Rolfing -- has anyone tried it?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:20:58 GMT

I personally have not been rolfed, but a good friend of mine has,
and claims it is quite amazing - and hence very worth the price.
He said that the deep body work really brought to the surface a lot of 
mental blocks, pains, etc. 

adrothst@athena.mit.edu