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From: kutcha@eos.acm.rpi.edu (Phillip Rzewski)
Subject: Re: Steve Hackett question.. whats good to t
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:30:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.193431.22246@ncsu.edu> hmn@unity.ncsu.edu (Harry Nicholos) writes:
>Time Lapse (live) has just been released domestically and is worth a
>hearty recommendation.  He covers turns from all of his albums, except
>the two acoustic ones (bay of kings and momentum) and even does a
>genesis tumne.
>
>A great sampler and a great live album.\\

    I'll agree Time Lapse is a nice effort. Something worth mentioning about
your message, though, the "Genesis tune". I can venture a good guess as to
why it's on there. Having read the Genesis history "I Know What I Like" I
recall them saying around the Wind and Wuthering period (the album that song
was from, and the last Hackett album) Hackett came to the group and said
"this is some material I've written, we're _going_ to put it on the album".
If I recall, everything from "Unquiet Slumbers..." to "In That Quiet Earth"
was written entirely by him. So you could call it solo Hackett with Genesis
playing backup, for the most part.

--
   Phillip Andrew Rzewski                      Internet: kutcha@acm.rpi.edu
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From: asr@castle.ed.ac.uk (Angus "Fluffy" Rae)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Francis Monkman
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:34:01 GMT
Organization: CATHY_VoiceMail_Project

nelson@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>to John Williams fans) and then joined Sky, a rock-classical kind of group
>consisting of himself, Williams, Kevin Peek, Tristan Fry and Herbie Flowers.
>They made two albums together (imaginatively called Sky and Sky 2), of
>which the second is a double; the style was definitely quite heavy, and
>full of Monkman.  He left at that point and the band went on to make
>Sky 3, 4, 5 (a jazz-ish double album), Cadmium, The Great Balloon Race
>and finally a nauseous collection of Mozart remakes which allegedly made
>quite a lot of money.

Sky 2 is very heavily reccomended. Some of this stuff on there is very
good indeed, if a little silly ("Tuba Smarties" springs to mind)
Sky 3 is patchy, but not bad. 4-Forthcoming I don't like too much, and
my tape has gone missing. Only good bit is a version of Bach's Tocatta
and Fugue. Sky 5-Live is a live album, with a good mix of old a new
stuff, large chunks of Sky 2 on it. Cadmium is a bit dodgy, John
Williams was getting a little fed up by then (Cadmium is the only album
with no stuff written or co-written by him). Some nice stuff, but a
little repetitive. The Great Balloon Race is wierd - I hated it when I
first got it but I now love it. John Williams had left at this point and
I think the remaining members loosened up a lot. Then there's Mozart
which I agree with the above assessment of.

>I recommend Sky and Sky 2.  They have just come out on CD in the UK, and
>the former contains a long and quite good extra track.

Any idea what the extra track is? I might consider buying the CD. I
would add Sky 3 and The Great Balloon Race to that above list, and maybe
Sky 5-Live. Actually, there are good bits on all the albums.

>I believe Monkman effectively retired from modern music when he left Sky.

Damn shame. 

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: smiller@bgsu.edu (scott miller)
Subject: Lyrics for My Bloody Valentine
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:19:44 GMT

Hello, everyone.  Yes I'm the guy that was asking for
Joy Division lyrics earlier.  And a few of you were very
good to me and I love you all.  Unfortunately cs.uwp.edu
failed to have one group that I was looking for :(.  That
is My Bloody Valentine.  If someone would direct me to them,
I would gladly kiss the appendage of their choice.

If possible, please respond through e-mail.

Thanks,
Scott

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From: rga@rti.rti.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Skin Tap [Was : Affordable Floors]
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:42:42 GMT
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC

In article <gedY6Hi00iUyM46ac5@andrew.cmu.edu> mc4g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael John Colaianne) writes:
>>i	Recently while in Pittsburgh, I discovered the "Affordable Floors"
>>in a live performance, they were really great. Their latest music is available
>>as the CD "Drumming on the Walls". I would like to know about other
>>groups that fall under this category, ie produce similar music.
>>Any/all suggestins welcome.
>>Oh, I guess the Affordable Floors are a Pittsburgh based band.
> 
>Yup, the Floors are based in Pittsburgh.  They've got quite a local
>following that verges on obsession sometimes...
>

Speaking of Pittsburg:

On a U.S. Alternative video show only available in Raleigh, N.C. on a  low power
barely receivable UHF station (show called "Noise Bazaar") I saw this great
video by a Pittsburg, Pa. band called "Skin Tap." They were Crafty influenced
and Crimson like, but in a originally developed way, not simply derivative. On
calling the show about the band, I was given the guitarist's number. It turns
out that he was a student of Guitar Craft, and participated in the 1988 European
Crafty Tour. His name is Dave Mazza. Anyway, he said Skin Tap was basically a 
name for one of his personal projects and was basically a ploy to get national
exposure on Noise Bazaar ! 

The music was quite compelling and I told him so. If he sends me the tape he p
promised, I'll report more later.

Anyone else know anything about Skin Tap ?

Randy Alley
From: jepp@iesd.auc.dk (Jesper Petersen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Tubular Bells II - YES!!!!
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:27:19 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


Just got the new Tubular Bells II yesterday.

I have seen several postings expressing wonder as to why it's entitled
TB II. I think that's very clear: 
Every tune on the new album is
rewritings of the old TB ideas. It's so amazing and brilliant I just
couldn't believe my own ears: Listen to 'The Bell' I laughed my head
off when the announcer said, "Grand Piano..."   It's just so amazingly
funny!

Still in ave,
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From: sortland@ocf.berkeley.edu (Stefan Sortland)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Blues Traverller.
Date: 28 Aug 1992 08:55:51 GMT
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Distribution: usa
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	I'm looking for some information on this group, and for
recommendations. I am under the impression this group falls under the 
progressive class, but again am not sure. 

	Mnay thanks in advance...

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From: nelson@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Francis Monkman
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:22:42 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <25205@castle.ed.ac.uk>, asr@castle.ed.ac.uk
(Angus "Fluffy" Rae) writes:

> Sky 3 is patchy, but not bad. 4-Forthcoming I don't like too much, and
> my tape has gone missing. Only good bit is a version of Bach's Tocatta
> and Fugue...

Um, actually that's at the end of Sky 2.  (Incidentally it probably isn't
by Bach - the manuscript just turned up one day, c. 1800, and somebody
said "sounds like Bach", which it doesn't - the fugue is too easy.)

You may be thinking of the superb (and seldom recorded) Fantasia
BWV 906.  (Despite being as good as the Chromatic Fantasy, hardly anyone
plays it because the fugue is mysteriously unfinished.)

>>I recommend Sky and Sky 2.  They have just come out on CD in the UK, and
>>the former contains a long and quite good extra track.
> 
> Any idea what the extra track is? I might consider buying the CD. I
> would add Sky 3 and The Great Balloon Race to that above list, and maybe
> Sky 5-Live. Actually, there are good bits on all the albums.
> 

The extra track is called "Dies Irae", is by Mr Monkman, and runs for about
7.5 minutes; it was a single.  Quite good stuff; one of the variations from
something on Sky 2 crops up in it briefly.

Alas, Sky 4, 5... etc are not available on CD.  The edition which brought
out 1, 2 and 3 (looks like a cheap, tatty music club - but the transfers sound
very good) said it was only intending to release those three.

Graham Nelson
From: wombat@claris.com (Scott Lindsey)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Where is it ? (Was: Re: Tubular Bells II)
Date: 2 Sep 92 07:01:20 GMT
Organization: Claris Corporation, Vancouver WA
Wombat: yes
Number: 64750

In article <402r020U20Ht01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep1.021026.16754@cunews.carleton.ca> wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:
> >In article <1992Aug31.070352.5309@solix.udac.uu.se> magnus@nexto.udac.uu.se (Magnus Ring) writes:
> >>What do you people think of TB II. The question I ask myself is why it's  
> 
> WHERE did you get it ? I've gone into at least six different record stores
> in the south bay in the last couple days... nobody has it. One store said
> it wouldn't be out until 9/22 !

If you'll notice, the addresses of the two people you quoted are not in the
U.S.  TBII has seen international release, but (according to Dave Dooley's
list on rec.music.info) it's not due out in the U.S. until Sep. 15.

Since you're in the Bay area, you might give the Compact Disc Warehouse on
El Camino in Sunnyvale a try.  They do a much better job of carrying imports
than Tower does.  And Tower *is* in Mountain View.  I thought they had a 
Brand X section in the Rock/Pop, usually vacant.  CDW definitely had a Brand X
section the last time I was there (a few months ago).

--
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From: MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: DO NOT TRADE WITH JEFF WOODALL AND ERIC ELLISON!!!!
Date: 30 Aug 92 02:08:57 GMT
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

As my subject states, do not trade tapes, etc. with either of those two people,
because I have been burned by both...

Jeff Woodal (at NC State) offered to tape a couple Yes concerts for me, and
  never returned the tapes I sent him in March

Eric Ellison (a.k.a. Sir Tanon) (at UIUC) offered to tape and ship several
  Queensryche concerts for me for $20, he recieved and cashed my check, but
  never sent me the tapes, after I paid him in April

If either of those two people would like to reconcile their differences with me
please do, because I am still waiting on those tapes that you promised me...
But untill then, I will be wary as to who I trade with, especially if they
say that they will do it for money...

Thanks...

Mike Weintraub
mweintr@auvm.american.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: rost@rgb.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Subject: Richard Sinclair Is Back!?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 26 AUG 92 09:02:49    


I heard that Richard Sinclair (ex-Caravan, Hatfield and the North, Camel, etc.)
has released a new album called "Caravan of Dreams" which is available in the
UK.  He is reportedly shopping for a US label and a US *tour*!

					Brian Rost @rgb.enet.dec.com

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From: bobn@hawkwind.central.Sun.COM (Bob Netherton)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:53:10 GMT
Reply-To: Bob.Netherton@dallas.Central.Sun.COM
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive
Distribution: na
Organization: Sun Microsystems

In article <1992Sep3.232243.27169@wlbr.iipo.gtegsc.com>, fdm@WLV.IIPO.GTEGSC.COM (Frank D. Malczewski) writes:

|> Good news.  However, that One Way Records rings a bell.  In my case it's
|> their reissue (via MCA) of James Gang's Yer Album.  Side one is just fine
|> (more or less), but side two was mastered off of an LP (pops, clicks and
|> all).

And the early Hawkwind stuff, X In Search of Space and Doremi Fasol Latido,
both of which have pretty bad sound quality.  If anybody needs excellent
sound quality, it is Renaissance.

|> 
|> When the Renaissance CDs come out, will someone verify whether they've 
|> done similarly?

If anybody has heard both the One-Way and the Japanese pressings, please
comment about relative sound quality.

I never noticed the edits in Rajah Khan or At the Harbor, but the edit
in Ashes Are Burning still burns me up.  I have been about to drop the
bucks for the Japanese release but can be talked out of it with a few
favorable comments on this new release.

Bob

-- 
Bob Netherton                        | You see the signs, they're always there
Sun Microsystems                     | But you know you never care
Dallas, Tx                           | You are always looking for another reason
bob.netherton@central.Sun.COM        | ==== Hawkwind, Paradox
From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Where is it ? (Was: Re: Tubular Bells II)
Date: 1 Sep 92 21:45:01 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep1.021026.16754@cunews.carleton.ca> wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.070352.5309@solix.udac.uu.se> magnus@nexto.udac.uu.se (Magnus Ring) writes:
>>What do you people think of TB II. The question I ask myself is why it's  
>>called TB II, to me it sounds more like Amarok II. The album is great  
>>though (IMHO). It's a trip through many kinds of great music. I'd say
>>Mike's done it again.
>
>I got the full CD recently. I think it's brilliant. Some boob in

WHERE did you get it ? I've gone into at least six different record stores
in the south bay in the last couple days... nobody has it. One store said
it wouldn't be out until 9/22 !

Here's another true story from my travels: Went into TOWER in Mountain
View (or is it Palo Alto?) looking for a CD copy of BRAND-X "Livestock".
Didn't see a section for them in Rock/Pop, so I checked Jazz, nothing
there either. Hey, this is the store that's supposed to have EVERYTHING,
right ? Especially if it's domestic !....so I asked / boy, was that a
mistake, I got passed around from one person to the next in the store:
"Hey _________, This guy's looking for Brand-X, you ever heard of them ?"
Not a single person in the store had ever heard of the band before !
Hey, where do they find these people? isn't there some kind of musical
knowledge screening these people have to go through before they can work
there, or is the only requirement that you have green hair, six rings
in your nose, smell funny and were born no earlier than yesterday morning.
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc
From: dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman)
Subject: Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues
Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:42:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.150349.12660@ddsw1.mcs.com> jtl@ddsw1.MCS.COM 
(Joe Lynn) writes:
>
>The first two Annie Haslam-era Renaissance LPs have just been
>reissued in the US by One Way Records (distributed by Capitol/EMI
>Special Markets).
>
>They are not yet available in stores, but an outfit called "The Music
>is 57576.  Price is around $12-14 per disc, plus shipping.
>
>Here is the ad copy which appears in the latest _Goldmine_ magazine:
>
>	Renaissance, featuring Annie Haslam, have been making great
>	music for over 20 years & have earned their place in rock 
>	history.  These two albums, originally released in 1972 & 1973,
>	are considered their best by critics and fans alike and
>	have stood the test of time.  Annie Haslam's recent CBS release
>	has once again put her name in the limelight & these albums
>	show her formidable beginnings.  "Ashes Are Burning" has been 
>	restored to its original full length, something fans have
>	been screaming for!
>

Personally, I think the fans should be screaming because the cost of
getting Prologue+Ashes are Burning has gone from $8.99 (a decent 
price on the CD 2-fer Capitol offered them as) to about $24-26. Yeah,
some fans may have screamed about the relatively few minutes chopped
off "Ashes Are Burning" in the 2-fer re-release. For myself, 
I don't think those extra minutes are worth an additional 
$15-17. (I have the original vinyl releases; I know what they chopped off).
Put it this way: "Fans" could have purchased the 2-fer and had the
complete "Prologue" plus almost all of "Ashes" for less than the
cost of "Prologue" alone under this "great" new reissue.

dap


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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: New Renaissance CD Reissues
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:01:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <13267@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> Bob.Netherton@dallas.Central.Sun.COM writes:
|And the early Hawkwind stuff, X In Search of Space and Doremi Fasol Latido,
|both of which have pretty bad sound quality.  If anybody needs excellent
|sound quality, it is Renaissance.

When I first heard the CD format I thought the CD format was made for 
Renaissance's Scheherazade.

On a similar note,  how much do you think the CD format has to do with 
the popularity of the more ambient nature of much of newage music.  So
much of the genre contains natural sounds from the environment,  very
quiet passages, and some rather sparse recordings.  Those same recordings
would become unlistenable after a certain point on record due to surface
noise and the the pops and clicks that result from playing records.

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: TR/U "The Ikon"
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:01:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <WHITE.92Aug26082240@hydro.mps.ohio-state.edu> white@mps.ohio-state.edu (The Master) writes:
|
|	Todd is a master engineer, so he has a habit of filling up
|album sides with a ton of music.  I don't have a vinyl copy of the
|original "Utopia" LP, but on at least two other albums Todd packs
|in over 30 minutes a side, "Initiation" and "A Wizard A True Star".

I was going to mention the same thing about Todds engineering prowess.
Something/Anything also is pretty lengthy.  I saw Todd with Utopia just
before "Utopia" came out.  He came out initially by himself and sat down
at the piano. Before he started playing he just started talking with the
audience, establishing a real casual rapport.  He did "Hello It's Me" and
many of his early pop hits and told a variety of stories.  After a half an
hour or so of this he asked, "Shall I get the rest of the band?"  After
a lengthly cheer he said, "OK, see you guys in a few minutes".  After a
20 minutes break a curtain opened up and the entire band was onstage and they
played "The Ikon".  He also did a few things from "Wizard" and, one of my
favorites, No. 1 Lowest Common Denominator".

 

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From: valeu@sdd.hp.com (John Valeu)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: The 'BEST'
Date: 3 Sep 1992 11:06:13 -0700
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdde.sdd.hp.com

Maybe this has been discussed in the past, but I've only been
reading these notes for the past six months or so....if this
has, please forgive me.

A friend of mine gave me a June 92 issue of Keyboard Magazine
with an article about Keith Emerson.  I saw ELP last week here
in San Diego and thoroughly enjoyed it (after taking into 
consideration that we all are getting older, a little slower 
and maybe aren't as intense about everything as we once were...)
The article described a project Emerson was involved with in
August and September 1990.  The project was a band called 'The
Best' and included Jeff Baxter, Joe Walsh, John Entwistle, Simon
Philips (the drummer on the last Who tour) and a singer whose 
name escapes me at the moment.  

This band toured Japan and Hawaii in September/October 1990.  My
question - did anyone out there see any of these shows?  Are there
boots available?  I'd be real curious to hear about the renditions
of Night on Bald Mountain, Fanfare For The Common Man, Rikki - Don't
Lose That Number and Theme From Jaws/Boris The Spider medley that
Emerson described in the article.  

Any info would be greatly appreciated.......

Thanks in advance,

John V.


Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: n3884@cray.com (Peter Palmer)
Subject: Re: Steve Hackett question.. whats good to t
Reply-To: n3884@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:47:50 CDT

In article 36898@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu, gmt@mosquito.cis.ufl.edu (GMM) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.080207.13365@ra.msstate.edu> lewis@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Lewis Beard) writes:
>>I am interesting in trying solo stuff, or any non-genesis stuff involving
>>Steve. . .
>
>My favorite is Voyage of the Acolyte.  That was his first solo album which
>was released while he was still in Genesis.  Another good choice would be
>Spectral Mornings, which I think is his second album.  Avoid Cured!
>Defector has a lot of diversity.  A lot of his albums are now available
>domestically, including Voyage of the Acolyte.  Try it first.

>


Actually, I think "Please Don't Touch" was his second solo effort.  It has
guest stars including Richie Havens and the lead singer of Kansas.  I thought
it sucked when compared to Voyage of the Acolyte.  The bright and poppy
sound came across as phony.  I quit buying his stuff after this.  Maybe
I`ll try one of the suggestions previously posted.

plp