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From: d89-rbi@dront.nada.kth.se (Ron Birk)
Subject: UPDATE: Party II Demos with 68030
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:00:06 GMT


Hi!

After getting reports that the Spaceball demo DO RUN on
68030 I retested the demos. This time with help of DEGRADER!
It seems that most of the demos doesn't like the cache
memory!! I did the following with degrader:

Selected [NoCache] and [Priviliged] and then pressed [SurviveReset].


My configuration is:

A2000
A2630 (68030 with 4 Meg 32bit memory)
A2320 Flicker Fixer
8Up Memory card with 6 Meg (only using 4)
GVP Serie I SCSI card
ECS Agnus and ECS Denise (1 Meg Chip)
2.04 ROM (37.175)

(The accelearor card is switchable to 68000 in bootup)


Rank Group/coder                    68030 68000 Comment
-------------------------------------------------------
  1  SpaceBalls*                     OK    OK    1
  2  Anarchy                         --    OK     
  3  TRSI                            OK    OK    1
  4  Pure Metal Coders               --    --    2
  5  Shining                         OK    OK     

  6  Virtual Dreams of Fairlight     OK    OK    1
  7  Cult                            OK    OK    1,3
  8  Paradise Productions            --    --    4


68030
-----
1) Turn off Caches

Both
----
2) Only the first two pictures works
3) Works until second disk
4) Doesn't work at all

*) SkidRow debugged version
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From: m91dva@tdb.uu.se (Dennis Vasko)
Subject: Re: TESTED PART II DEMOS ON 68030!
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
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Distribution: swnet
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:36:05 GMT

Jag h}ller fullst{ndigt med dina synpunkter. N{r jag k|pte min A3000
kunde jag helt enkelt inte s{lja min A500 just p.g.a. att s} m}nga
ljuvliga demos (och kommersiella spel!) inte ville fungera korrekt
p} en "turbo-Amiga". Finns det inga party-organisatorer d{r ute som
s{tter upp regler som att demos i penningstinna t{vlingar M]STE funka
}tminstone med 030-baserade Amigor?? OK, att det inte funkar p} en A4000
men.....

 /Dennis

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From: d89-rbi@dront.nada.kth.se (Ron Birk)
Subject: TESTED PART II DEMOS ON 68030!
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:32:11 GMT


WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!! WARNING!!

Before you download any demos from the Party II, READ THIS!!

Ok, I downloaded the demos in the first eight positions.
I hoped at least that these guys knew how to program, but boy
was I WRONG?!? Of all the demos only ONE worked with 68030!!!
Two of them didn't even work when switched to 68000!!. (Even
that Skid Row debugged two of them didn't help!)

This is a shame! What can we do to help those poor novice amiga
programmers to learn how to program? One guy have started a
'How To Code' doc file, and I find that VERY GOOD!! Keep up
the work! All of you knowing any Amiga coder out there, PLEASE
show them this doc file or at least tell them that there exist
other Amigas than their owns! Now that A4000 and A1200 came
out it's even more important to consider other processors than
MC68000 and other graphic chips than ECS and older.

How can a demo win a competition without working?? That
is a major question! Only Shinings demo worked on 68030
and it was in place five! Don't they TEST their work before
release??? What would happen if I bought a new car and when
it starts raining the chassi would meld or the the wheels get
loose?

Ok here is my list. My configuration is:

A2000
A2630 (68030 with 4 Meg 32bit memory)
A2320 Flicker Fixer
8Up Memory card with 6 Meg (only using 4)
GVP Serie I SCSI card
ECS Agnus and ECS Denise (1 Meg Chip)
2.04 ROM (37.175)

(The accelearor card is switchable to 68000 in bootup)


Pos  Group       68030    68000
-------------------------------
1) Spaceballs*    nop       OK
2) Anarchy*       nop       OK
3) TRSI           nop       OK
4) PMC            nop      nop
5) Shinings        OK       OK
6) Fairlight      nop       OK
7) Cult           nop     almost
8) Paradise       nop      nop

*) Skid Row debugged version
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From: anders@elixir.e.kth.se (Anders Bostr|m)
Subject: Re: 2.0 driver till HD
Organization: School of EE, Royal Institute of Technology, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:51:01 GMT

> H}rddisken(SCSI-Trumpcard 500-Quantum) har en IVS_SCSI.device som inte fungerar
> l{ngre (r{ttare sagt: den fungerar inte med 2.0's fastfilesystem).

Devicen till Trumpcard, eller iaf. till Trumpcard Pro som jag hade
tidigare, ligger ju p ROM, vilket borde innebra att det
r ROM:et som mste uppgraderas. Hr iaf. efter med DG Computer, de
borde kunna fixa bde mjukvara och ROM t dig.

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From: d1gunnar@dtek.chalmers.se (Gunnar Andersson)
Newsgroups: swnet.sys.amiga
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Party II Demos with 68030
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:42:24 GMT
Distribution: swnet
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

d89-rbi@dront.nada.kth.se (Ron Birk) writes:

>It seems that most of the demos doesn't like the cache
>memory!! 

Exactly.  I also have a 500 but I've started realising that you now have to
think about things like this when coding.  At least where it doesn't make 
too much difference in terms of speed.  For competitions the fact is still 
that they are run on a standard 500 and people want to utilise all the speed
they can on them. 

The biggest problem I think is self-modifying code.  

Example:  You want to use a different address in your routine each time. 
	  Say animated bobs for example.

	tst.w	whichpicture
	beq.s	a
	move.l	#pic1,x+2
	bra.s 	b
a:	move.l	#pic2,x+2
b:	...
	...

and in your routine you've got:

x:	move.l	#[anything],$dff050  (blitter source or something)

The correct way is of course:

	tst.w	whichpicture
	beq.s	a
	move.l	#pic1,pointer
	bra.s	b
a:	move.l	#pic2,pointer
b:	
...

pointer: dc.l	0	(reserved space)

x:	move.l	pointer,d0
	move.l	d0,$dff050.

Because I don't think you can  move.l pointer,$dff050 directly, right?

Compare the two:  The second one is much faster on a computer with no cache.
but won't work with cache.

x:	move.l	#[anything],$dff050  (blitter source or something)

x:	move.l	pointer,d0
	move.l	d0,$dff050.

In a loop done several hundred times, this makes a lot of difference.
I have thought about it and most of the time there ARE other ways to do it 
that are almost as fast and work with all computers.  Considering the fact
that groups usually don't want ONLY to win the competition (even if that's a 
big priority) but also to spread their demo to a large group, I think we will
eventually see people learning to code so that it works all over the place.

It's does take more effort, though because it is usually easier to rely on 
various timings on the computer (500) than to make it look good even on a 
faster computer.  What I mean is a lot of people write routines that work
perfectly only on a 500 but look terrible if the processor on a faster 
processor.

Well enough about this, I'm going to go and FTP the howtocode-file now and 
read it since everyone's saying it's so good.

BTW, how many non-swedes read this group?  Is there really any reason for not
typing in Swedish?  After all there are other international amiga groups.


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From: sparud@cs.chalmers.se (Jan Sparud)
Newsgroups: swnet.pryltorg
Subject: ESDI h}rddiskkontrollerkort k|pes
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:41:24 GMT
Distribution: swnet
Organization: Dept. of CS, Chalmers, Sweden


Jag {r intresserad av att k|pa ett ESDI h}rddiskkontrollerkort 
till en 486 PC (ISA-bus).

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Department of Computer Science              +46 31 7721006
Chalmers University of Technology
Gothenburg, Sweden
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From: e89hse@efd.lth.se (Henrik Sandell)
Subject: MFM harddiskkontrollerkort kopes!
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:06:13 GMT

Hej!

 Jag behover ett harddiskkontollerkort typ MFM som gar att anvanda i 
en 386 33MhZ SX, bussen ar (naturligtvis) ISA.

 Tacksam for svar sa snart som mojligt, lampligen pa tel 010-2470127
(Jag behover kortet under nasta vecka, och jag kommer troligen inte
att lasqa mail till dess, blir dyra telerakningar...)

 Tack pa forhand!

 Henrik Sandell
From: andersm@etek.chalmers.se (Anders Martinsson)
Newsgroups: swnet.pryltorg
Subject: Till salu: NEC 4FG 15" flatscreen bildsk{rm.
Keywords: NEC, bildsk{rm
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:20:16 GMT
Followup-To: swnet.pryltorg
Distribution: swnet
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, Sweden
Originator: andersm@kajsa0

Hej.

Jag s{ljer h{rmed min NEC 4FG i fint skick. Den har ett halv}rs garanti kvar
}x}. S{ljer den p.g.a behov av en st|rre sk{rm. Priset skulle vara runt 6000:-
(devalverade). Intresserad?? Ring 031-238317 efter kl. 18.00 alla dagar eller
skicka ett brev till email-adressen nedan.

Anders Martinsson		Email:	andersm@etek.chalmers.se
Chalmers Tekniska H|gskola
G|teborg
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From: d88pt@efd.lth.se (Peter Tomaszewski)
Subject: L}ten: Das Roddboot s|kes desperat!
Reply-To: d88pt@efd.lth.se
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:53:16 GMT

HEJ!

N}n som har l}ten "DAs Roddboot" (mixen) inspelad eller p} skiva?
Har f|r mig att det {r Toms Tivoli som gjorde den. Vill ha den
inspelad eller k|per den!!

ring: 046/13 33 07
emaila! f|r jag {r ofta borta.

Peter

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From: e91sg@efd.lth.se (Stefan Gimeson)
Subject: Re: K|pes: Kraftwerk; "Tour de France" (helst p} CD)
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:16:04 GMT

In article <BJORN.93Jan11224730@Minsk.docs.uu.se> bjorn@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Bjorn Knutsson) writes:
>Ok, s} nu ger jag upp och fr}gar h{r oxo.
>
>Jag har terroriserat varenda skivaff{r jag snubblat |ver, och det verkar
>vara helt st|rt om|jligt att f} tag p} "Tour de France" med Kraftwerk p}
>CD. Jag har hittat en och annan cover, men jag {r inte intresserad av
>dylika, {kta vara ska det vara.
>

Det finns en ganska enkel frklaring till ditt problem.....
Tour De France finns (fanns...) bara p singel och maxi, den fanns 
allts inte med p ngt. album & har aldrig kommit p CD.
Sigelversionen r lttast att f tag p, men maxin r bttre...

/stefan

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From: e89hse@efd.lth.se (Henrik Sandell)
Subject: EGA kort kopes
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:08:30 GMT

 Jag behover (ocksa) ett EGA kort som kan anvandas pa en
386SX 33MHz med ISA buss, VGA duger inte for skarmen klarar
bara EGA (den har en 9-pinnars kontakt)

 Tacksam for svar sa snart5 som mojligt, helst under denna vecka. Ring
helst pa tel 010-2470127 eftersom jag inte kommer att kolla mail unde5r
veckan.

 Henrik Sandell
From: Rikard_Thulin@thulos.bbs.bad.se (Rikard Thulin)
Newsgroups: swnet.pryltorg
Subject: Amiga 2000 s{ljes... 3000 :-!!!!
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 93 15:42:00 +0000
Reply-To: Rikard_Thulin@thulos.bbs.bad.se (Rikard Thulin)
Distribution: swnet
Organization: THULOS!, STROMSTAD, SWEDEN 
OD-Comment-To: All


Jag s{ljer en AMIGA 2000 f|r endast 3.000 Kr + frakt.

Telefon; 0526-26126
Fax    ; 0526-26056



 Rikard Thulin, InterNet: Rikard_Thulin@thulos.bbs.bad.se
                AmigaNet: 39:160/102.0
                 FidoNet: 2:203/503.0
                   WCNet: 66:200/101.0
                     BBS: THULOS! +46-526-26191, 16k8DS


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From: ovhe@ki.icl.se (Ove Hedin)
Subject: 486DX K|pes , har du en skrotad ??
Keywords: dx
Organization: ICL Data AB, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 11:55:23 GMT

N}gon som har en 486DX/20 eller snabbare till Salu f|r ett vettigt pris
till en som blev ENORMT besviken p} Intel's idiotpris f|r OverDrive !!



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From: sgren@dynas.se (Johannes Sjogren)
Subject: BYTES el. K\PES: RLL-controller f|r AT
Organization: DynaSoft, Dynamic Software AB
Distribution: swnet
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:19:26 GMT

Jag beh|ver en 16-bitars RLL-controller, helst med 1:1 interleave, som
g}r att strappa till IRQ15+alternativa IO-adresser - ist{llet f|r det 
normala IRQ14. Det g}r bra {ven med en controller som saknar inbyggd
floppy-controller.

I utbyte mot detta kan jag erbjuda en WD1006 RLL FD+HD 1:1-interleave-
controller eller/och MFM-controllers av olika varianter. Eller kanske en
AT-l}da, eller ett 286-moderkort... Eller kanske till och med pengar :-)
F|resl} g{rna n{t annat bytesobjekt s} skall jag se om jag har det liggande
n}nstans.

	/Johannes Sj|gren <sgren@dynas.se>
From: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Newsgroups: swnet.pryltorg
Subject: ZyXEL E+ modem wanted
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 93 14:14:18 +0000
Reply-To: Roger_Nordin@atb.bbs.bad.se (Roger Nordin)
Distribution: swnet
Organization: ANet Test Bench, Karlstad, Sweden 

Hej!

N}gon som {r intresserad av att s{lja mig 7st ZyXEL U-1496E+ modem f|r h|gst 
4kkr/st? Ring 054-833089, Roger, eller skicka ett e-mail.

                        _       .    __
    Roger Nordin     _ //      /!Net /est Bench
 2:203/602.0@fidonet \X/  Internet: Roger_Nordin@bad.se

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From: rikard@dc.luth.se (Rikard Stenberg)
Newsgroups: swnet.pryltorg
Subject: Sportdykare - l{s detta!
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:31:27 GMT
Distribution: swnet
Organization: University of Lulea, Sweden

Till salu:

Sony h|gkvalitativ videokamera f|r undervattensbruk.


UNDERVATTENSHUS

Sony MPK-VXI kamerahus f|r ned till 75 (sjuttiofem!) meters djup
utrustad med 4" lcd F[RG-monitor baktill p} huset ist{llet f|r
den mer sedvanliga "siktramen" ovanp}. Huset har ocks} kontroller
f|r dom flesta funktionerna:

-huvudstr|mbrytare
-inspelning av/p}
-zoom
-omkoppling mellan automatik och manuell sk{rpeinst{llning
-sk{rpeinst{llning
-snabbspolning med bild

Dvs inte bara str|mbrytare och inspelning av/p}!


KAMERA

Sony CCD-V700E, en mycket trevlig videokamera med en oerh|rd
m{ngd finesser och bra ljusstyrka. Hyfsat liten men {ndock med
viss tyngd (mindre skak!) och mycket bra bild. Obs, ingen
"vanlig" video-8 kamera utan en Hi-8 med mycket b{ttre
bildkvalite!


\VRIGT

Extra optik, vidvinkel
Extra optik, tele
Extra batteripack
En m{ngd olika filter
Motljusskydd
Belysning med tv} ljusstyrkor (ej UV)
mm mm


Kameran g}r att anv{nda separat som "vanlig" videokamera och den
lilla f{rg-monitorn g}r ocks} att anv{nda separat.

Observera att undervattenshuset {r aldrig anv{nt! Kameran {r
endast anv{nd ca 3-4 timmar - dvs grejorna {r precis som nya!

Nypris idag n{rmare 50 000:-
Mitt pris 25 000:-

Kontakta  Rikard Stenberg
telefon   0920-98903 kv{llstid o helger
datorpost rikard@dc.luth.se
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From: d88pt@efd.lth.se (Peter Tomaszewski)
Subject: PCB-CAD f|r ATARI ST!
Reply-To: d88pt@efd.lth.se
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:30:38 GMT


S[ljes, disk med PCB-Cad f|r atari st monokrom:

* Fyra layers, dvs klara {ven dubbelsidiga kort.
* Objekt orienterat (dvs ej pixel).
* Bygg egna symbolbibliotek.
* Valfri skala.
* Skriver ut p} laser, 9 n}lars, 24 n}lars och plotter (hp).
* Autocad kompatibelt (dxf)
* H|g precision (uppl|sning)

+ massor av andra anv{ndbara funktioner.

S{ljes billigt s.i.h  
Pris 150 :-

Ring: 046/13 33 07
Eller emaila f|r jag {r ofta borta.

Peter,

ps: Har {ven ett antal diskar med ljud i sounddesigner format.
s

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From: Magnus_Thelander@p18.atb.bbs.bad.se (Magnus Thelander)
Newsgroups: swnet.pryltorg
Subject: S{ljes: H}rddiskl}da med n{taggregat
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 93 21:25:06 +0000
Reply-To: Magnus_Thelander@p18.atb.bbs.bad.se (Magnus Thelander)
Distribution: swnet
Organization: The final frontier, Lund, Sweden 
OD-Comment-To: Alla

   Det {r en apparatl}da i kraftig pl}t med en utdragbar metallram och
en lysdiod f|r h}rddiskaktivitet.  Det sitter ett stort n{taggregat
med fl{kt och de n|dv{ndiga matningssp{nningarna f|r en h}rddisk i
l}dan.  Det har fyra uttag.  De {r inte uppm{rkta, s} du m}ste kunna
m{ta stiften.

   Den m{ter 30x32x10 cm, och v{ger 6 kg. Jag vill ha 300 kr inkl.
p.f.avg. och porto f|r den.

Mvh Magnus

Hj{lp TV4! F|rtala dig sj{lv!
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From: bjorn@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Bjorn Knutsson)
Newsgroups: swnet.pryltorg
Subject: K|pes: Kraftwerk; "Tour de France" (helst p} CD)
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:47:30
Organization: CS, Uppsala University, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

Ok, s} nu ger jag upp och fr}gar h{r oxo.

Jag har terroriserat varenda skivaff{r jag snubblat |ver, och det verkar
vara helt st|rt om|jligt att f} tag p} "Tour de France" med Kraftwerk p}
CD. Jag har hittat en och annan cover, men jag {r inte intresserad av
dylika, {kta vara ska det vara.

Jag {r intresserad av den p} vinyl ocks}, om allt annat visar sig helt
om|jligt.

/Bj|rn

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From: nv89-jak@nada.kth.se (Jan kerfeldt)
Subject: C64 k|pes
Originator: nv89-jak@hemul.nada.kth.se
Reply-To: nv89-jak@nada.kth.se (Jan kerfeldt)
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:06:08 GMT

Fungerande C64 med bandspelare k|pes billigt. 
Det ska vara den gamla "br|dburks"-modellen.

Svara med email till nv89-jak@nada.kth.se

--
Jan ]kerfeldt (nv89-jak@nada.kth.se)
From: Johan_Wennerberg@ars.bbs.bad.se (Johan Wennerberg)
Newsgroups: swnet.pryltorg
Subject: 17" k|pes
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 93 23:21:24 +0000
Reply-To: Johan_Wennerberg@ars.bbs.bad.se (Johan Wennerberg)
Distribution: swnet
Organization: AROS, Vasteras, Sweden 

Jag skulle vilja k|pa en 17" till ett humant pris, s} h|r av er till mig
om ni {r intresserade att s{lja en s}dan!
 
Mvh Johan Wennerberg
 
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From: dvlawm@cs.umu.se (Anders Wilhelm)
Subject: Re: K|pes: Kraftwerk; "Tour de France" (helst p} CD)
Organization: Dep. of Info.Proc, Umea Univ., Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:34:03 GMT

In <BJORN.93Jan11224730@Minsk.docs.uu.se> bjorn@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Bjorn Knutsson) writes:


>Jag har terroriserat varenda skivaff{r jag snubblat |ver, och det verkar
>vara helt st|rt om|jligt att f} tag p} "Tour de France" med Kraftwerk p}
>CD. Jag har hittat en och annan cover, men jag {r inte intresserad av
>dylika, {kta vara ska det vara.

Den enda CD som jag sett Tour de France p} var soundtracket fr}n Breakdance.
Annars tror jag inte att den finns p} CD, ska h0ra efter med engelska fan-
clubben om den finns.

{r det n}gon som har f}tt tag p} Elektrik (Music) CD'n??

/anders


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From: d91-han@ludd.luth.se (Andersson Henrik)
Newsgroups: swnet.pryltorg
Subject: Re: K|pes: Vectrex
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:39:35 GMT
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Organization: Lule} Tekniska H|gskolas Datorf|rening - Ludd

In <NV91-RAN.93Jan7150920@hemul.nada.kth.se> nv91-ran@hemul.nada.kth.se (Roger Andersson) writes:

>Har du en vectrex med m}nga spel s} {r jag villig att
>k|pa den f|r en billig penning.

Jag ar intreserad av att kopa ett vectrex ocksa (helst med spelet scramble ;)


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From: nv91-ran@hemul.nada.kth.se (Roger Andersson)
Subject: K|pes: Vectrex
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: swnet
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:09:20 GMT

Har du en vectrex med m}nga spel s} {r jag villig att
k|pa den f|r en billig penning.

Jag letar {ven efter en f{rgvektor monitor s} jag kan 
laga mitt tempest.

Ring 08/10 92 13 el maila

/Roger

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