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From: farant@terapin.com (Faran Thomason)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: X-men most popular
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:06:37 PST
Organization: BBS

Maybe I am nitpicking but.... I just saw an for the X-men Cartoon and it said
based on the most popular comic book in the world--X-men! But don't comics in
Japan sell more copies than any american comic book ???
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Gender Character Contest
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:58:27 GMT

I suppose a few more would be Farouk (inhabited Xian Coy Manh), Shapeshifter 
from Elementals (in fact, many shapeshifting characters assume both genders, 
but Shapeshifter from Elementals is known to have had sex as both), Berg Katse 
(okay, he's really anime, but as Zoltar s/he appears in the Battle of the 
Planets comic by Gold Key) and of course Starhawk in a way.
     Dave Van Domelen, let's have a vote on favorite gender-bender!
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From: nicholas@next19pg2.wam.umd.edu (Ronnie Simonds)
Subject: Re: Siderman 2099 #2
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:33:44 GMT

In article <14190.2ad8637f@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>  
balbes@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
> In article <70724@hydra.gatech.EDU>, vapspyo@prism.gatech.EDU (Jon W.  
Hughes) writes:
> > Siderman?  Didn't he and Suicide Squid have that
> > big cross-company crossover back in the early 80's?
> > (I'm sorry, my copy of the SS-Sidey crossover was
> > lost in a flood last year, so I couldn't look it
> > up.)  Anyhow, could some kind soul who has this
> > please send me a summary of the plot, since it's
> > been years since I've read it.  Also, what's the
> > origin story of this new Siderman?

Siderman!
Siderman!
Does whatever a Sider can!
Plaster is
his reward
Life's just a great big haaang-up
Wherever there's a haaaang-up
You'll find the Sidermaaaan....

-Ronnie "Stop me before I sing again" Simonds
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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Subject: Re: Zoo Crew
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 02:57:23 GMT

Damn.  Someone beat me to the punch.  :-)

In article <BvxJBF.o9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cad28526@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck Douglas) writes:
><LUCKE@NDSUVM1.BITNET> writes:
>I really miss Capt. Carrot and the Zoo Crew.  I absoutely loved it and was
>in a state of shock for quite a while when they cancelled it.  *sigh*
>I was really interested in where they were going to go when they added
>Little Cheese to the Zoo Crew line-up.  I think I am going to have to
>go back and reread this great series and relive some old memories.  I wish
>they would bring it back.

This seems to be the attitude of nearly everyone who bothered to post an
answer to the original aritcle.  (Which my newsgroup server booted off. Grrrr)
Alas, the High Ones at DC (read the guys who decide which books get to be
published) will not release the Zoo Crew from thier eternal torment of
oblivion unless they receive word that the masses demand these great
heros be released!  If you are not familiar (due to the crossposting)
with these mighty heros, become aquainted!  This was the first and ONLY
non-independent production of ORIGINAL furries.  Granted these were not
the most serious of furries but their humour was similar to that of the
Giffenized Justice League International (good series, IMHO).  These mighty
heros were the precursors to Darkwing Duck and the Justice League of
Supertoons.

Let them wallow in Limbo (Alley-Kat-Arba's favorite dimension save Earth-C)
NO MORE!  Write to the High Ones at DC Comics and DEMAND (read beg and plead)
that the Zoo Crew be allowed to roam their home dimension of Earth-C
Once more!  Let the Kahn (aka Jenette Kahn) know that you would support
real (and slightly silly) heros!

DC Comics' Address is:	DC Comics
			1325 Avenue of the Americas
			New York, NY 10019
			e-mail: dccomics@mcimail.com

Thank you.  (pomous mode off)

August Paul Yang wonders how Captain Carrot could fly in the OZ-Wonderland
Wars.
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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From: raboles@eos.ncsu.edu (RODNEY ALLEN BOLES)
Subject: Joe Quesada
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:15:31 GMT


I am becoming quite a fan of Quesada's work. If, by chance, you don't
know the name, he is the artists on the recent Ray miniseries and 
current Batman: sword of Azrael mini-series from DC. He has also
done a few covers recently (X-factor). I also have the Dark Horse
comic given away at San Diego con that has some work by him in it.

Can anyone point me to more of his work? I'm looking for a complete 
list. 

When is he taking over X-factor? 

hmmmm, wonder how much my signed Azrael #1 will be worth when 
he becomes the next how thing. Wonder if he'll go to image or
dinosaur? 

Oh, yeah, I think I also remeber a Solar cover he did recently
as well.
From: sigel@vsscad.enet.dec.com (Andrew Sigel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:59:30 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <81576@ut-emx.uucp>, cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes...
>In article <1992Oct5.223155.12965@netcom.com> solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay) writes:
>>Phil Foglio, doing Goldie's birthday party.
> 
>Perfect. 
>Actually, I'd like to see Foglio do a full Sandman issue, in the same style he
>used in D'Arc Tangent, where he didn't draw in a cartoonish style, unless it
>appropriate........
> 
>(Found a D'Arc Tanget #1 at the ArmadilloCon last weekend, along with some rare
>Harlan Ellison and a buncha small-print-run MU Press stuff. Made my week.)

I believe the credit for the non-cartoonish style goes to Freff, not Phil.  And
there isn't a chance that Freff and Phil would collaborate again.  Unfortunately,
I don't think either will ever continue D'Arc Tangent alone; the legal morass
probably prevents it.  (I doubt Phil could pull off an issue of Sandman, and it 
would be a big mistake to let him try.)
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From: tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver)
Subject: Re: Sandman: Darkness in Corinth (Small Spoiler)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: SPOILERS, really, I mean it.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 02:03:51 GMT

 lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:

And there really are spoilers. trust me <cackle> 

+>>The Corinthian will be making an appearance in this story line. In fact,
+>>I think he shows up in the next issue. Sounds like fun.  
>
+>Back? I don't think so. I think we merely see him again.
>
>????? As in we see him in flashback or as in he was never really gone?

Last I heard from Neil, the Corinthian had failed to return in much the same
way as Madoc had done... gotten about 6 pages into The Return, & floundered.
The script Neil had at that point for us seeing the Corinthian again was,
instead, a view of him, Destruction and Dream hanging out at the Royal Society.
I won't give any further spoilers, but remember the Corinthian's tastes as you
enter the story.

So, in flashback.

>"In Part 4 of Brief Lives, Sandman and Delirium continue their search for
> the the missing sibling Destruction. This issue features the return of
> the evil Corinthian and many strange dreams."

I though Part Four was going to be the Alderman biting off his shadow and
turning into a bear (I *love* this storyline). Then, there's to be "Lots of
nudity and dancing". I hope the concerned mothers of america appreciate it.

>(I don't know why it's Sandman and not Dream or Morpheus.)

Because he's not being terribly Dream in the waking world? I dunno.

>So how and why does the Corinthian return? I'd argue he was "gone" as 
>Morpheus has control over his creations and we did see the body (a portion
>of it anyway) in one of the last issues of Season. 

I would still say he hasn't returned yet. Unless the upcoming issue is not
the one I'm expecting.

Tanaqui

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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Re: Image gets competition?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:02:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.050626.26445@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>From Comics Journal # 153 (reprinted without permission):
>
>	Sources close to [The Comics Journal] have confirmed recent rumours
>	of a new creators' imprint called _Dinosaur_, whose founding members
>	include Frank Miller, Walt Simonson, John Byrne, Art Adams, and
>	Geoffrey Darrow.  The core group of five has also sounded out other
>	creators, including Alan Moore, Mike Mignola and Chris Claremont,
>	about joining the group.
>
>	Most of the principals could not be reached, and Adams and Claremont
>	said that they could not tell the Journal anything at this time.  Moore
>	went so far as to say that he had been approached by Miller but could
>	not confirm the actual existence of the group.  "For all I know,
>	they were just sounding people out," he said, but added, "They, as far
>	as I know, intend to do it."
>
>What can I say?  YES!  YES!  YES!!!!!
>
>This is the best news I've heard in YEARS!  Finally, some good mainstream-ish
>artists getting together instead of these Image hacks.  I'll order more than I
>ordered of the Image books to show my solidarity with these creators.
>
>
>-------
>Scowling Jim Cowling
>Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
>-------

This is indeed good news and i really hope that it happens. But really
Jim, I figured you of all people on the net would know better than to
reprint articles on the net without permission from the original source.
that isn't right and and it has definately been mentioned on net before.
I know it is important news, but it could have been told without
reprinting the article on net.

Not a flame, just a slight chastising...


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* Craig Welsh                  *    "I'm a few bricks short of a       *
*                              *     load, but a full load always      *
* cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca     *     hurt my back."                    *
*                              *     "Crazy" - Barenaked Ladies        *
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* "Homeboy from Hell." Screw that. I'm the Waiter from Hell.           *
*  You figure out which is scarier.                                    *
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From: hs0sagg@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (S A G Granville)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Slapstick?
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:53:44 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

>>Just wanted to know, does anyone have any comments on Marvel Comic's SLAPSTICK
>>limited series?
>>
>>My two bucks is that it's silly, it's irreverent, it's camp, it's the perfect
>>compliment to Groo, and I want to see more of the character...
>
>Careful!  Too much can make you go blind!
>
Personally I think that the Amazing Slapstick is
completely hilarious.  I read it on the same day as 
Heckler 3 which was also incredibly funny.


Toodle Pip

Simon.
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Albert Elmostein)
Subject: Re: DC: Doom Patrol 
Organization: Master of Time and Space but Mostly Physics
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:50:34 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Oct11.042712.15642@math.ucla.edu>, sherman@deimos.math.ucla.edu (William Sherman) writes:
> I haven't given up on it, that's for sure.  I may even post an update
> of my annotation files.  I'm no Elmo, but there are lots of things that
> get referenced and quoted in Doom Patrol, and maybe somebody would want
> it catalogued.  Call me compulsive.

	"Mr. Sherman, I knew Elmo, and you're no Elmo"

	Heh heh heh.  Today's been a real ego-trip, what with Scav's 
rac.elmos.names and all.  Hey, I've got a rep, this means I can rest on my
laurels, right.

	(Annotated Sandman 35: look for it Monday.  I'll try to get the repost 
of 32 out this week as well.)
-- 
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds."
--Albert Einstein                                                              
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Re: M #4
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:49:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.182925.3099@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (H. R. Costigan) writes:
> Did anyone else pick up Jon J Muth's _M_ Book Four?

Me!!

> it seemed that the killer doesn't look like Peter Lorre now

He never did.

> Did some lawsuit pop up (I thought the book was "official" in some way)?

If someone were to sue Muth, they'd have better things to do than sue
him because a character looks like Lorre.  He adapted Thea Von Harbou's
screenplay almost intact.

BTW, I suspect this film is in the Public Domain nowadays.  It would
be OK for Muth to do an adaptation of it without asking anyone.
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
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From: terry@edsi.plexus.COM (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: galleries and sigils
Organization: Appleton Public Library - Appleton, WI
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 23:13:16 GMT

kc2w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kevin J. Chen) writes:

>Desire is standing in her gallery staring at Dream's helmet saying, "I'm
>watching you, Big Brother" (a cute reversal of the phrase, IMO).

The ironic reversal of the familiar Orwellian expression is not noted in
the annotation I have, though it may have been added in a later version.
Doctor Elmo, call your office...

-- 
     Terry Dawson       | "Only connect!" | voice: (414) 832-6168
Appleton Public Library |                 |   fax: (414) 832-6422
  Appleton, WI 54911    |  -E.M. Forster  | terry@edsi.plexus.com
From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: CYBER FORCE #1
Date: 12 Oct 1992 00:51:07 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


 > The other half of any story is the writing, and Cyberforce dropped
 > the ball on this one.  Does Eric Silvestri have ANY experience at
 > all?  Anyone?  There were FAR too many acronyms being tossed around,
 > and I can't decide whether the recurring use of the word "cyber-"
 > was laughable or simply nauseous.  I suppose the plot is okay, and
 > the characters are interesting, even tho Ripclaw IS a blatant clone
 > of Wolvie at his animal worst.  I'll stick around for the second
 > issue.
 
I didn't think Ripclaw was "Wolvie at his animal worst".  Of course, he was
the Wolvie of the book, but instead of the best-there-is-at-what-I-do crap
that's gotten so tiresome, they opted for the Indian-talking-to-the-spirits
cliche instead, which is at least SOME kind of change.  The mutant hunters
would have made Wolvie disgusted and full of hate, and no doubt he'd pull
his "Berserker Rage(tm)" deal.  Ripclaw seemed more saddened, and saving
the girl seemed to inspire resolve in him more than outright hatred.
 
I did get sick of the Cyber-whatever stuff.  Having a character shout out
"CYBERFORCE!!" made me think of that show "Superforce" that's on Saturday
mornings... you know, one of those action shows with special effects they
show on the weekends that's filmed on video, like Superboy?  Anyway, it's
a terribly goofy name for a supergroup.  But I'll let it slide.  The cyber-
stuff stuck in my head for just a second, but it didn't detract from the
reading.  The acronyms DID, and if there are any more in the second issue
I'm gonna have to count this as a major flaw.
 
As far as interesting characters go, I especially liked Chip (the repair
guy) and TIMMIE.  One flaw was the lack of an interesting female character.
Velocity was alright, but she's kinda a Kitty Pryde character, who I was
never too fond of.  Cyblade is your standard macho sex bitch character, 
she might as well be a guy as far as I'm concerned, though she's obviously
there to even out the male-female balance.  My favorite female superhero
characters are Ice from JLA, circa the Giffen-DeMatteis era, and Wolfsbane
from the first couple issues of Peter David's X-FACTOR (ain't read much 
since the first couple of the run, sorry PAD).
 
Another real writing problem was the difficulty in catching the names of
all the characters.  They're all in there, but I'll bet nobody here who;s
read the book can remember all the names unless they go back and dig for
a while.  For instance, it's a long time after Chip is first seen before
we catch his name.
 
Anyway, I've said it before.. the writing here is NO WORSE than most of
the Marvel comics of the last six years or so, and there's no reason we
should hold Image to a different standard.  I think this  is a very
competent superhero book, and I too will stick around for the second ish.
 

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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Siderman 2099 #2
Organization: Interleaf
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:09:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.175935.18384@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>Is it Siderman who was rocketed by his father from the doomed
>planet Aluminum?  And that his real (Aluminum) name is Pan-El?

Nope, his name was Vyn-El. However, he was once split into Aluminum Siderman
and Vynel Siderman due to exposure to red brick.

"He's arrested a piano!?! Is he *nuts*?"
"Is it madness to want to save us from the onslaught of killer pianos?"
"I guess not. Silly me..."  --Stig's Inferno
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: lf7z@ellis.uchicago.edu (glenn alan carnagey jr)
Subject: Re: For all the Ostrander fans out there...
Reply-To: lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:55:01 GMT

In article <lsmith.718737283@deci> lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>In <1992Oct10.012511.5335@athena.mit.edu> ckb@athena.mit.edu (Christopher K. Brown) writes:
>
>>There's been so much traffic about Mr. Ostrander lately, I thought
>>I'd post just to inform those interested that he'll be doing
>>Magnus Robot Fighter for Valiant starting with issue #21 (next
>>month, #20 came out today).
>
>He's also doing a new Spectre series that starts this month (?). Supposedly
>this will be a new take on the Spectre character. The first issue will have
>a glow in the dark cover. Uh-huh.

No, it's supposed to be a return to the violently vengeful Spectre of
old, Mandrake's doing the art.  It's a return to the evil, mean and
nasty Spectre some of us used to know and love, you know when he
turned the bad guys into trees or melted them, etc.  But I hope Johnny
O finds a way to cut back his workload, except for Hawkworld, it's
gotten too watered down of late, IMHO.  Will have a glow in the dark
cover, hopefully more legible than McKean's was :^)

Pax ex machina,
Glenn
......................................................................
"I feel cities are like whores.
   You may see them in the daytime,
   but you only truly comprehend them at night."
     --- Neil Gaiman
g-carnagey@uchicago.edu, if you must know
.................................................................




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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: For all the Ostrander fans out there...
Organization: The Little Dead Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:14:43 GMT

In <1992Oct10.012511.5335@athena.mit.edu> ckb@athena.mit.edu (Christopher K. Brown) writes:

>There's been so much traffic about Mr. Ostrander lately, I thought
>I'd post just to inform those interested that he'll be doing
>Magnus Robot Fighter for Valiant starting with issue #21 (next
>month, #20 came out today).

He's also doing a new Spectre series that starts this month (?). Supposedly
this will be a new take on the Spectre character. The first issue will have
a glow in the dark cover. Uh-huh.

Gee, Spectre and Deadman both get titles this month. Great month to be
deceased.
--
     Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
         (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
 "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
    all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"
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From: kehandle@unix.amherst.edu (KEITH EDWARD HANDLEY)
Subject: Re: Liefeld and Youngblood ...
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:39:10 GMT

WAYNE WONG (sewon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov) wrote:
: Isn't it just soooo koowl that the characters can keep changing their 
: costumes from panel to panel?  Check out Prophet in Youngblood #3 on pages 
: 1-4.  First he has the little-itty-bitty-teeny-weeny pouches strapped to 
: his leg, then he doesn't.  He has the segmented-cable-thingies around his 
: shoulders, then he doesn't.  He has a shoulder pad on his left shoulder, 
: then he doesn't.  Wow, and his costume has a regenerative characteric too; 
: It's all torn up and stuff, then boom!  It repairs itself.  Koowl.

Obviously, Wayne Wong doesn't recognize the fine art of surrealism.
Liefeld is a genius, but he won't be recognized as such for many, many
years.

: And Dear Mr. Rob Liefeld is soo generous.  Four full pages dedicated to 
: the letters column - 16 letters in all.  All praises.

At least there are 17 of us who recognize greatness.

Keith Handley  kehandley@amherst.ed
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: M #4
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:59:57 GMT

Come now...if resembling Peter Lorre were cause for suit, The Guy Who Looks 
Just Like Peter Lorre in Tick #7 would really draw one.
          Dave