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From:         Wendy Calwhite <calwhitw@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: student assistants

Subject: Student Assistants

Dan:
  My info may be a little out of date; but years ago when I worked
in a major university library where we hired lots of work/study
students, there was a difference.
  Work Study (as we defined it) meant a significant fraction of the
student's salary was funded by the federal government.  Presumably
that makes it attractive to financially strapped institutions, so
there was a fair amount of pressure to hire these students...as
opposed to those funded out of our meagre personnel budgets.  But,
there weren't necessarily enough qualified (according to the fed's
definitions) students to fill all the available jobs.  So, you hire
students at the beginning of the fall term, and often enough feel
lucky to get them because of the presumed saving in salary.  Then,
if they don't work out, you'd like to fire them (having gone through
all the proper trainings, warnings, etc.); but you quickly learn that
you may not be able to replace them with another student on work/
study and your personnel budget won't allow for anything else.  So
then you have to decide whether to keep someone not so good, or risk
not having anyone at all.
  My remembrance is also that Work/Study required more recordkeeping
and other paperwork at several levels in both the library and in the
institution.  Meaning that any problems with a workstudy student
tended to make a lot of other people have to process a lot of paper,
so we had a certain amount of 'encouragement' to keep them on...

<><><><><>
That is the biggest problem with work study - if you hire work study and they
don't work out, for whatever reason, you are stuck.  You cannot take the money
and contribute it toward a regular student's hours, you have to leave that money
available IN CASE another work study student comes over and wants work.  If you
have very many work study positions, it can have a disastrous effect on the work
output of your department.

W.
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From:         01JALIVINGST@BSUVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Patron records

Rick,
     Ball State University is also a NOTIS site.  Our circulation terminals
work at 4 securtiy levels.  Student assistants at the counter have access
to level 1 security.  That means they are able to view patron records and
print out a list of what a patron currently has charged out on his/her
ID.  The patron must present his/her ID before the information will be
accessed.  As we have 29 student assistants, we have strict rules as to
when these records may be accessed--NO PERSONAL BROWSING.  A staff member
is always present in the area to ensure this rule and to access level 4
security should the need for an override come up.  Student assistants
are also schooled in the fact that patron information on a currently
charged book is NOT given out.  Patrons may place holds/recalls on
materials.  Our particular area places only HOLDS as we have a 2 week
circulation period.  Student assistants are trained in the procedure to
place a HOLD, CHARGE, DISCHARGE, PRINT RECEIPTS, and print HAS requests.

Julie Livingston
Ball State University
Ed Resources Circ & Ref Librn.
Muncie, IN
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From:         "W.C. DIVENS" <N93774@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: lists for gardeners

>If you are on a campus with access to USENET--ask your friendly computer center
   ,
>    there is a gardening news

Isn't it amazing, the topics  that just sprout up on the ILL
list!  Why, the 'green' users must wonder how corny notes
just flower on some listservers.  But ILL-L is indeed fertile
ground for such discussion.  Mum's the word, however...

Happy Friday, folks
Rusty
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From:         Bonnie Ryan <LIBBCR@SUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Shelf labels for Current Periodicals Current Newspaper
              collections

At Syracuse University's E.S. Bird Library, our Current Periodicals
are shelved separately from the bound ones and arranged alpha.  These
Current Periodicals are housed with Current Newspapers in the
Reserves unit (Reserve materials are shelved in a separate area behind
the Reserves service desk). We are in the process of rearranging the
shelving in the Current Periodcals and Newspaper area to allow for
more seating and better security.  I have a few questions, which can be
sent to me directly, or I can summarize for the LIST if other are
interested:

1. What type of label holders do you use to identify the Periodicals
  on the shelves?  How do you accomodate for title changes?  Currently,
we use a labelmaker that produces plastic adhesive labels, but these
aren't aesthetically pleasing, and some are difficult to remove.

2. How are your currnet Newspapers arranged on the shelves?  We aquired this
collection some months ago, and despite staff maintaining it several
times a day, the shelves are still disaster areas!  We keep local, high
use neswpapaers as with some high use periodicals behind the Reserves
Desk, but the majority of them are on the open stacks in the Unit, arranged
alpha by title and are kept til the microfilm is produced or discarded
after a certain date.

Sorry for the typos.  Thanks in advance for the information!

                                                   Bonnie Ryan
                                                   Head, Access Services
                                                   E.S. Bird Library
                                                   Syracuse University
                                                   Syracuse, N.Y. 13244
                                                   315-443-4509
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:08:05 -0400
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From:         REYESJ@NYUACF.BITNET
Subject:      Re: after hours

I would have another person to act as building manager so that person
could patrol the library.  In this situation the ideal would be to have
campus security act as security since it would be impossible for one
circulation person (whether full-time or student assistant) to be every-
where and to get people to leave the library at closing.

In my experience, circulation people have always been expected to handle
security problems unless you're dealing with an unstable patron.  Then
call Campus Security and have them escort the patron out.  The true ideal
would be to have campus security perform rounds within the library, have
them check bags, attache cases or backpacks, check id cards for admittance
(if they attend a private institution), and close and secure the building.

But that's just a dream!  :-)

Joan A. Reyes
Circulation/Collection Management Librarian
New York University Law Library
Internet:  REYESJ@acf1.nyu.edu
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:29:21 PST
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From:         Wendy Calwhite <calwhitw@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: The weather!
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GO TRIBE!! Thos of us transplanted to the great state of texas are root'n
fer ya'll.
None of you can complain about the weather where you live until you've had a
Texas August. I've lived in New York City, Indiana, California, Utah, Colorado,
and they each have their good and bad weathers. But a Texas August beats them
all for misery. Sorry guys.
Gin
<><><><><>
Don't like your weather?  come and visit.  Today it's supposed to be near 90's.
Perfect!!  Except for the humidity.  I like my heat dry.  But at this point,
I'll take it any way I can get it!!

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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:38:59 EDT
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From:         CGOODSON@UGA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: WEATHER: ( !!!
              29 Jul 1992 15:01:41 PDT from <mkirk@WILLAMETTE.EDU>

On Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:01:41 PDT Maresa Kirk said:
                                       I thought I had mistakenly logged on to
>a Weather list, and not Circplus!
***I agree...too much on weather.

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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:26:24 MDT
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From:         Laurie Cardon <LIBLXC@BYUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Student assistants

The discussion on student assistants brought this question to my mind:

We all know that hiring the right people in the first place is critical.
What kinds of questions do you ask in your interviews (and what kinds of
responses are you looking for) to help you select the right employees?

                                       Laurie

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Laureen Cardon              The frightening, inchoate future always
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Brigham Young University   | present.
Provo, Utah 84601          |              Robert Silverberg
LIBLXC@BYUVM.BITNET        |              1992 ALA Conference
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:16:23 EDT
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From:         Mary Kay Ball <R1MKB@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      E-Mail address

Sorry to bother everyone with this message, but I am having trouble getting
mail to Carmela Kinslow. So, if she is on the discussion list, or if someone
has her address, could it be sent to me so I can send her some messages???

thanks!

Mary Kay Ball                E-MAIL  r1mkb@akronvm.bitnet
U of Akron Law Library
Akron, Ohio 44325
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:48:27 PDT
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From:         Wendy Calwhite <calwhitw@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject: RE: STUDENT ASSISTANTS

Mary Kay -
I am having difficulty getting E-mail to you.  Give me a shout.

Wendy
Calwhitw@ccmail.orst.edu
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From:         ljmaclean@UCDAVIS.BITNET
Subject:      After hours staffing

While we are not a "large" library, (we have a collection of approx.350,000 vol
(i.e., 8-midnight).  One of these people is a night and weekend lead assistant
which is a student position that is considered career (permanent).  These staff
people are circulation and are not backed up by any security personnel other
than our campus police

Lucia MacLean
Carlson Health Sciences Library
University of California, Davis
LJMACLEAN@octavo.ucdavis.edu
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:01:41 PDT
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From:         Maresa Kirk <mkirk@WILLAMETTE.EDU>
Subject:      WEATHER: ( !!!

Our computer system was down for two days, and when I was finally able to log
on this afternoon I became worried!!  I thought I had mistakenly logged on to
a Weather list, and not Circplus!  Would it be possible to mail personal
discussions to an individual, rather than the list?  I don't want to come
accross as a wet blanket, I'm all for fun, etc., but this doesn't seem the
right forum to be discussing weather.  I can understand fishing for shared
interests and topics, but it seems a lot of what was being discussed could
have been mailed directly to an individual address, or to another list.
Please forgive my grumpyness, and thanks for lending an ear (or shall I say,
"eye").
Maresa Kirk
Hatfield Library
Willamette University
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From:         Mary Kay <R1MKB@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: The weather!
              26 Jul 1992 18:10:12 EDT from <CXSN@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>

Suzy....have a great time!!!! Send us bitnet from down under!!!!
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From:         CXSN000 <CXSN@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      The weather!

Try this.  Arrange an exchange with a librarian in Australia!  I am
off to Brisbane, Griffith University, for 4 months.  Wendy Abbott
will be at McGill in my place.  We have had a wet summer too, but I
just keep thinking of my endless summer (Brisbane is subtropical)
and it's ok.  Best to you all on the list.  I leave Aug. 3.  Back
in January.  Suzy Slavin, Hum. and Soc. Sci. Library, McGill Univ.
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From:         kendall <KSIMMONS%UKANVM.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 80/20 rule
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              26 Jul 1992 12:49:00 CDT from
              <G_BRUCE%TWU.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

It's been several days since I've had the opportunity to read my e-mail,
so you all have been lucky enough not to hear anything from me.  Not any
more!

Any rate rate, re: the 80/20 rule...some folks at our Computer Center
wanted to try "something" using FOCUS and, as we already had an online
database, they used it to do their "something."  At any rate, after they had
done their "something", they looked at the results and were appalled - or
else frightened that something had gone wrong - because the results of their
"something" showed that 60 % of the items on our online circ system had NEVER
circulated.  They were reassured that no, they weren't wrong & no, we weren't
surprised.  How that relates to the 80/20 rule, I don't know, but I thought
it interesting that a computer program substantiated our gut instincts.

Kendall Simmons
University of Kansas
Where the weather has been so wet, all of my softball games for the last
3 weeks have been rained out...but my ducks are ecstatic.
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From:         D-LENA@UMINN1.BITNET
Subject:      student assistants

 What puzzles me is Wendy's assertion that "you don't have to deal with
 resident aliens," as I am certain that I have employed a great number of
 resident aliens as work-study students over the years. Now I'm not talking
 about foreign students, here only to study (I have employed some of them as
 regular, non-work-study employees). But particularly when great numbers of
 first Vietnamese, and a couple of years later, Hmong immigrants received
 work-study grants as the most needy students on campus, I've employed a number
 of resident aliens--who were in the process of becoming U.S. Citizens. In some
 cases the language difficulties have been severe (I have sometimes wondered
 how they would ever get through their classes!), and there have been
 occasional cultural difficulties (it turns out that we could not legally bar
 employees from going barefoot on the job unless we also barred patrons from
 entering the library without shoes--and to do that we had to present clear
 evidence why our library was more dangerous than the public library), but on
 the whole I've been glad to have the resident alien employees, particularly
 with work-study.

 --David Lenander              (612)626-5808,fax:(612)626-2454
   University of Minnesota Bio-Medical Library
   Diehl Hall 505 Essex SE     Internet: d-lena@vm1.spcs.umn.edu
   Minneapolis, MN 55455         BITNET: d-lena@uminn1
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From:         Joanne Leary <joanne_leary@QMRELAY.MAIL.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Student assistants
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                       Subject:                               Time:4:34 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          Student assistants                     Date:7/21/92
Interesting discussions about students.  Does anyone have a
points-for-good-behavior system (brownie points/ bonus points)?  I've been
wondering if anyone has used this as a means of rewarding students who do more
than they have to (like always subbing for others or doing particularly good
work).  If so, what are the points exchangable for?  Are points better for
raising morale and/or improving performance than wage increases and verbal
thanks?

By the way, someone asked whether anyone perceives a difference in performance
between work study students and non-work study.  I would say that in my
experience, non-work study students tend to be better overall workers.  It
seems to defy logic.  Presumably, work-study students have a greater financial
incentive to do well (work the assigned hours, get raises or promotions or just
plain keep their jobs).  We hire about half and half WS and NWS; the NWS's tend
to stay longer and do better.  Our student supervisors (promoted from the ranks
of student assistants) are almost always NWS students.  I can't really explain
it.

Joanne Leary
Cornell Engr Library
Ithaca NY
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:22:23 EST
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From:         Rick Cooley <RCOOLEY@UVMVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Exhibits policies

At the University of Vermont, we are currently revising our policy concerning
exhibits in the library. If anyone who has such a policy currently, I'd
really appreciate a chance to look it over. Thanks.


Rick Cooley                         rcooley@uvmvm (BITNET)
Dana Medical Library                rcooley@uvmvm.uvm.edu (INTERNET)
Learning Resources Center           (802)-656-4401 (VOICE)
University of Vermont               (802)-656-0762 (FAX)
Burlington, VT  05405
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From:         GEFFNER@SJC.BITNET
Subject: Re: Bound journals: to shelve or not to shelve with the general
              collection?

Our bound journals are shelved with the circulating collection.  While this
has worked out well, patrons do complain that the periodicals aren't in
their own section.

Of course, they would probably want to have them arranged by title instead of
call number, which would be difficult given the frequency of name changes.
Shelving the periodicals in the right area might also be tricky for some
of our student workers.  Finally, what does one do with serial, periodical/
annual items which are not bound?

All in all, I think we'll leave our bound items where they are when we
renovate.  Hopefully we'll be able to throw them all out when full-text is
readily available.

Ann Williams, Saint Joseph College (CT)
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:21:11 PDT
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From:         Hye Ok Park <hyeok@ZIMMER.CSUFRESNO.EDU>
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:02:27 EDT
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Subject:      Re: lists for gardeners
              31 Jul 1992 11:22:21 EDT from <ASCOAT01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>

Gardens & Gardening
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From:         Wendy Calwhite <calwhitw@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: Student Assistants
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May I please have a copy also of your information on student assistants
Thank you
Franceen Wilson
The George T. Harrell Library
Milton S. Hershey Medical Center
Hershey Pa 17033
Fax 717-531-8635

<><><><><>
Did I miss something??  What information??
Wendy Calwhite
Oregon State University Libraries
Kerr Library 121
Corvallis, OR 97331-4501

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From:         "Bill Robinson, GSLIS, 4-2148" <WROBINSO@UTKVX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: lists for gardeners

If you are on a campus with access to USENET--ask your friendly computer center,
    there is a gardening news
group--rec.gardens--which provides considerable information about a wide
variety of gardening topics.  Traffic is considerable.  Sometimes there will be
as many as 60 or 70 messages a day.  You may ask questions on a wide range of
topics and secure a variety of answers.

bill robinson (wrobinso@utkvx.utk.edu)
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From:         "Geraldine Collins, UNF Library" <GCOLLINS@UNF1VM.BITNET>
Subject: Detection systems: gateless, and magnetic media

From: Geraldine Collins, UNF Library

1. The Univ. of North Florida Library has a gate-less detection system. When
the alarm goes off we call all patrons back who were leaving at the time and
ask them to walk through again. Generally, the person who was responsible owns
up to it and voluntarily comes back to the Circ desk. Yes, we do yell at them
to stop (very politely of course!) The exit field is approximately 22 feet
from the Desk.

2. Our Media Dept. is using a de/sensitizer for video cassettes and reports
that they are pleased with them. No tapes have been erased and any problems
incurred have been operator errors.

Geraldine Collins   (904) 646-2615   GCOLLINS@UNF1VM
Head,Circulation Services, Interlibrary Loan, Course Reserves
University of North Florida Library, P.O Box 17605
Jacksonville, FL 32216
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