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From: Glen.Taylor@f126.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Glen Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: Re: how fat is she?
Date: 3 Sep 92 05:19:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lrifido.715502149.10


 -=> Quoting James A. Buckner to All <=-

 >She is SO fat, when she sits on my face I can't hear the stereo!!
 >
 >-kw  (Now that's a good one!)

 JAB> She's so fat that when she sits around the house, she sits AROUND the
 JAB> house! 
 JAB> She's so fat that 2 cops come up to her and say, "Break it up"

She as big as a house and has the aluminum siding to prove it.





... I went on a 30-day diet - and lost 30 days!
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10

 * Origin: Lawson & Reay - Vancouver, WA - (206) 574-8287 (1:105/126)
Newsgroups: rec.humor
From: kyrie@coos.dartmouth.edu (Thomas S. Marlowe)
Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: Re: Christian Joke
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:53:29 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Originator: kyrie@coos.dartmouth.edu

Newsgroups: rec.humor
Subject: Re: Christian Joke

hamling@mdcbbs.com (Griff Hamlin III) writes:
>I'm not Christian, and you're right, I have no morals. But I laughed
>hysterically at that joke, I thought it was great. 

You did?
I still am waiting for someone to post the punchline.
I have never heard this joke and I am still
waiting to hear why it is funny.  How can
it be that in 40 some odd posts, no one bothers to 
put in the punchline?

Or is it just that this was the entire joke and 
the humour is supposed to come out of the simple
knock on Christianity?  In which case a viable joke
would be "Christians are dumb."

C'mon people. Are you all such a bunch of whining
bastards that you cannot do anything other than 
laugh at another's intolerance?

Get a life or at least get a joke.

TSM
From: mfactor@bbn.com (Mara Factor)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Dance opportunities wanted in Denver and other areas of Colorado
Date: 27 Aug 92 21:34:35 GMT
Reply-To: mfactor@bbn.com (Mara Factor)
Distribution: na
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

I'll be on vacation in Colorado from Sept. 19 to Sept. 28 (flying into
and out of Denver).  Where are dances that I should know about while I
am in the area?  Is there a dance listing or phone numer I should know
about while I'm there?  I'll have a car so the dance locations do not
necessarily have to be near Denver.  I'm interested in any of the
following types of dance: 

	Swing
	Contras/Trad. Squares
	Western Squares/Rounds (I'll check the directory before I leave)
	English Country
	Scandinavian
	(assorted ballroom, too)

As I'll probably be travelling alone, I'm particularly interested in
dances where people tend to change partners from dance to dance.

Thanks in advance,
Mara
mfactor@bbn.com

P.S.  I'm also posting separate messages to rec.arts.dance and
      rec.backcountry in case you can offer any other suggestions 
      to keep me busy through the week ;-).  Thanx again, MF
From: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: remedial waltz (was Re: waltz: how fast is danceable?)
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:24:25 GMT
Reply-To: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

General agreement with all Peter Neilson's points. Here are a couple of
additional ideas:

(1) box-waltzers take the strong step (beats 1 & 4) to the side. Turning
forms will take it into or around the partner. Boxers who later learn to
turn will often retain the habit of stepping to the side instead of
into their partner on beat 1 (4 for man); this is workable, but a struggle
when matched with the more efficient turning pattern.

(2) A class is fine, but you might do just as well getting someone to
watch you and see if they can spot what's not meshing. Variations on the
theme: have her watch while you dance with one of your comfortable
partners & see if the new lady can spot a difference between her pattern
and the one you're comfortable with. Then get one of her comfortable
partners & you do the watching. Since you've agreed not to do an "I'm
right/you're wrong" trip, you both could end up knowing twice as much
about waltz possibilities as you started out with.

Since I started with the boxer-changed-turner clumsiness myself I don't have
much problem adapting to a partner doing it, but I do try to teach such
partners that stepping towards me instead of to the side makes for a
much nicer turn. But it's taken me years to be able to adapt to the full range
of hambo styles I encounter. Vossarul was even trickier; there are some
excellent dancers that I've never been able to mesh comfortably with, though
both of us can do it with any number of other partners.

	terry
From: mbp@nyssa.wa7ipx.ampr.org (Marlin Prowell)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: Contra Dance question re: "Hickman's Hey"
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:05:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: nyssa.1992Sep4.040525.24855
Organization: WA7IPX

In <6157@transfer.stratus.com> pearl@sw.stratus.com (Dan Pearl) writes:

>Does anyone out there know who wrote the sequence "Hickman's Hey"?
>It was definitely NOT Steve Hickman.

>Duple improper

>A1. Actives in center: down 4 in line; 1/2 hey for 4, acts pass R shoulder
>A2. Repeat
>B1. Actives allemande R, swing neighbor
>B2. Long lines: forward & back; actives swing

*I* posted a query about this dance perhaps nine months ago.  Or ...
almost this dance... In the version I posted, B2 is Actives Bal & swing.

In the Seattle area, this dance is known as Hickman's Hey, because
(according to Luther Black) Steve Hickman has called it in the area
several times, but Steve does not know who wrote it.  So the dance has
been named (for lack of any alternative) after the person who called
it.  Steve collected it at Pinewoods in 1987 at an after hours dance,
but did not get the name or author.

I did some research before posting my query.  Luther says that Steve
Hickman did not call this dance the same way each time, and that *this*
version was adapted from one of Steve Hickman's versions.  The
distinctive A1 - A2 parts have always been the same, but apparently the
B parts mutate. (BTW, Luther Black is a local good fellow; he is on the
board of directors of *both* CDSS and Folklife).  I asked Larry Edelman
if he knew the dance, and he did not.  I asked Steve Hickman, and he
admitted to collecting the dance, and did not know the author.  Also, I
got no response to my query about this dance from the net.  (Other than
seeing another permutation show up on the net nine months later).

So, who did write this?

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| Marlin Prowell               | There is a very thin line between ignorance  |
| (206) 676-1554               | and arrogance and I have totally obliterated |
| mbp@nyssa.wa7ipx.ampr.org    | that line.             -- Dr. Science        |
-- 
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| Marlin Prowell               | There is a very thin line between ignorance  |
| (206) 676-1554               | and arrogance and I have totally obliterated |
| mbp@nyssa.wa7ipx.ampr.org    | that line.             -- Dr. Science        |
Organization: Doctoral student, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:48:41 -0400 
From: Denys Proteau <dp2p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: dancing in Charlottesville VA?

Hi again.  I have a friend who is going to start college in
Charlottesville VA and would like to know if there is any International,
Scandinavian, Contra, or Balkan dancing there.  I looked in the People's
Folk Dance Directory and only found some American and English Country.  
Thanks
Denys


Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: air@cs.cmu.edu (Alex Rudnicky)
Subject: Re: query - cassette sound system sources
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:04:35 GMT

In article <39@ravel.ati.com> duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan) writes:
> Marantz models appear to have beaucoup problems.  They are overpriced
> junk and a ticket to repair shop hell if you aren't electronically
> inclined.  One person's very promising suggestion was that the karaoke

Ok, what specific problems have you been experiencing?  I'm curious.

The Marantz deck we have has worked fine for almost two years.  It has a number  
of features that make it practical (such as RCA jacks, memory and variable  
pitch control) and it appears to be reasonably rugged (it's surviving regular  
weekly on-location use).  It hasn't been used for field recording, however  
(just tape-to-tape, for which it's perfectly satisfactory).

The only apparent drawback is a wimpy speaker.  It's barely adequate for a  
couple working together and is useless in a class situation (meaning you also  
need to schlep a sound system).

The price might be a bit steep (especially for a down-market brand), but isn't  
really when you compare it to something like the equivalent Sony unit (which in  
any case is too flimsy for other than personal use).

Alex.


Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: vaghughe@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Greg Hughes)
Subject: Cassette Systems for teaching dancing
Summary: RSCDS, TAC, Cassette Tapes
Originator: vaghughe@atlas.cs.upei.ca
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
  
Distribution: NA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:00:16 GMT
From: photo@ccmail.orst.edu (Peter Freeman's Research Group)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Oregon State Univ. Alumni Dance
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:47:26 GMT
Organization: Chemistry Department, Oregon State University

Well, my message made it through today.  Who knows where the other went?  
Anyway, on Nov. 14 we are planning an alumni dance at Oregon State 
University for all of the past and present ifd dancers.  Anyone else is 
surely welcome.  We will be getting all of the particulars out as soon as we 
can confirm everything.  But mark your calendars now and bring pictures 
and memories.   We are hoping to also bill this as a fundraiser for much 
needed new equipment.  I, and others, am presently putting all of the music 
onto tape (a large task, needless to say).  I appreciate getting more info 
on a good tape player for a dance group.  

We are also trying to rejuvenate dance at OSU under the direction of Mary 
Marshall, who used to haunt Texas (she says hi to Chuck Roth).  We are 
planning a massive media campaign and have contacted several folks for 
assistance and direction (Student Activities director, campus radio 
promotions director, local folklore society, etc.) The campus radio 
promotions director is willing to play our music on their folk or 
international hour and to have an on-air interview with us about our 
group.  We hope to bill this as: no experience or partner necessary, and a 
great way to meet people, exercise and have fun.  We also want to start out 
with easier instruction but have some advanced stuff later on in the 
evening to show the folks what they can aspire to, plus give the more 
advanced dancers a fun time.  The campaign is directed at students and the 
community.  Apparently, according to the folks at Stockton, there are lots 
of engineers (and other left-brainers) into folk dance, so it's a good idea 
to target the local engineering firms etc.   
Any other suggestions will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks. Susie
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: rlw@IDA.ORG (Richard Wexelblat)
Subject: Re: remedial waltz (was Re: waltz: how fast is danceable?)
Organization: IDA, Alexandria, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 11:32:26 GMT

According to Jenny Shimer, most country dancers do a two-step rather
than the waltz.  She once demonstrated the difference between the
"country waltz" (i.e. two-step), the Waltz, and the Viennese Waltz.

I can't put the differences into words but it's sort of:
long-short-short (waltz) 
step-together-step (two-step) and
step-pivot-step (V.waltz)
-- 
--Dick Wexelblat  (rlw@ida.org) 703 845 6601
  This message is not copyright.  Please feel free to use it
  in any context, at any time, with or without attribution.
  Quotes out of context and parodies are encouraged.
From: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: query - cassette sound system sources
Date: 26 Aug 92 02:31:31 GMT
Reply-To: duncan@ravel.ati.com (Jim Duncan)
Organization: KUFX 94.5 FM Stereo, San Jose, CA 'The Fox'

In article <1339@minya.UUCP> jc@minya.UUCP (John Chambers) writes:
>> 
[deleted JD derogatory comments re: new Marantz portables.

>Hmmm ...  I have a Superscope C-202LP that's about 12 years  old,  and
>it's  still  working  just  fine.  
>It'd be nice to know that someone still makes such a useful tool.  The
>one in my living room might not last forever.

Take care of that precious Superscope portable because the current
Marantz models appear to have beaucoup problems.  They are overpriced
junk and a ticket to repair shop hell if you aren't electronically
inclined.  One person's very promising suggestion was that the karaoke
craze may spawn new lines of cassette machines suitable for dance
studio or folk dance use.  
-- 
KUFX |      w  ["]                            | WA6MBV     
94.5 |...   |___|_____..duncan@ravel.ati.com  | Jim Duncan  
FM   |          H                             | ----------   
********  \_____I_____/  37 3 10N/121 59 10W  ************** 
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: dave@monitor.larc.nasa.gov (Dave A. Hinde)
Subject: Re: WSD Singles Labor Day Weekend
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:41:19 GMT

In article <fred-mckenzie-280892134531@128.159.169.79>, fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie) writes:
|> Coming up over the Labor Day weekend:
|> 
|>                        Single Square Dancers USA
|>                        22nd National DANCE-A-RAMA
|>                 "Promenade Eight in the Bluegrass State"
|> 
|>                           September 4-6, 1992
|>                           Louisville, Kentucky

I'll be there and assume Fred is going since he posted this.  Will anyone else out
there in "net-land" be attending??  
					See you there,
                                              
                                          ___/,@___  Dave Hinde
                                         /_o_____o_| dave@monitor.larc.nasa.gov
From: jc@minya.UUCP (John Chambers)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: waltz: how fast is danceable?
Date: 27 Aug 92 23:21:49 GMT
Distribution: na


In article <dcbng=c.rhn@netcom.com>, rhn@netcom.com (Ron Nicholson) writes:
> In modern international style ballroom dance, there are 2 waltzes: the
> slow waltz, at about 31 measures per minute; and the Viennese waltz, at
> about 56 measures per minute.
> 
> International style Viennese waltz is danced with steps do a half
> turn per measure or transition between direction of turn, and can
> travel quite rapidly.  International style slow waltz allows enough
> time for steps that split beats to be used (as in 1 2 & 3).  Social
> waltzes seem to done at a tempo between these two.

This is similar to the situation in Scandinavian dance.  The  standard
"vals"  is  rather on the fast side, with a metronome setting of 50-60
per measure about normal.  There is also a dance called "stegvals"  or
"stigvals"  depending  on dialect; its normal tempo is more like 30-40
and it has steps that occasionally divide the beat.  It's  actually  a
sort of intermediate between a vals and a pols(ka).

The very slow "old-time American" waltz is  often  dismissed  (with  a
slight  sneer)  as the "geriatric" waltz.  Or, if you don't want to be
insulting, you can always use them for a polska.  The Tennessee  Waltz
is  very  nearly  a  prototype  hambo, after all:  three-and-one, two,
three-and-one, two, three-and-one, two, ...  (;-)
From: pearl@sw.stratus.com (Dan Pearl)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Contra Dance question re: "Hickman's Hey"
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:54:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

Does anyone out there know who wrote the sequence "Hickman's Hey"?
It was definitely NOT Steve Hickman.

Duple improper

A1. Actives in center: down 4 in line; 1/2 hey for 4, acts pass R shoulder
A2. Repeat
B1. Actives allemande R, swing neighbor
B2. Long lines: forward & back; actives swing

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dan Pearl  **  Stratus Computer, Inc.  **  pearl@spectacle.sw.stratus.com
From: pgroblic@revpjg.gmr.com (Peter Groblicki)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: query - cassette sound system sources
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:28:59 GMT
Reply-To: pgroblic@revpjg.gmr.com
Organization: GM Research and Environmental Staff

Recently I took a look at some of the Karaoke systems to use for a dance group.
I was not impressed by the construction of many of them, and was concerned about how
long some of them would last under the strain of frequent transportation, dropping, 
etc.  

In a recent post, the point was made that a 15% shift in tape speed should be
adequate for most dance purposes.  I have noticed that some Karaoke units  and
tape decks specify a pitch control range of only +- 6%.  I was recently in a situation
where we slowed down a piece by 15 to 20% to allow the dancers a chance to get the
footwork, and then gradually sped up to a more normal speed.  So, read the specs
carefully, and make sure you can live with a 6% range.  In the course of looking at
these units, I came across some confusion in terminology.  Strictly speaking, what we
want is tempo control, obtained by varying the tape speed.  Some manufacturers also
call varying the speed pitch control.  There are however, a few units which have both
variable speed tempo control _and_ an electronic signal processor which will shift the
pitch.

I saw in a store (but have not used) a Karaoke unit from Peavey that looked ideal for
dance use.  It had both tempo and electronic pitch control, reasonably rugged
construction, and moderate power.  My recollection is that it was priced about $1000.
Does anyone have any hands-on experience with this unit?  Any other positive (or 
negative) recommendations?
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: WSD Singles Labor Day Weekend
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:00:57 EST
Followup-To: rec.folk-dancing
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

Dave-

It looks like you're all alone.  I wish I could be there, but won't be able
to get away.  Say hello to the Florida group for me!

When I first discovered rec.folk-dancing a few weeks ago, there were
frequent postings about WSD activities.  I guess everyone is away on summer
vacation, since postings have fallen off in all dance categories.

Maybe next year.

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: remedial waltz (was Re: waltz: how fast is danceable?)
In-reply-to: jc@minya.UUCP's message of 27 Aug 92 23:21:49 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 13:31:36 EDT

I never thought I'd be writing to Dear Abby, but here goes: at dance
camp this year a woman told me I need to work on my waltzing. This
surprised me, not because I consider myself a great waltzer, but
because I was assuming *she* was the the one who needed to work on it.
There are lots of women I think I waltz adequately well with, but with
her it's clumsy; turns out the same is true on her end too.

So what's this mean? That we're both mediocre waltzers who can waltz
well only with much more talented partners? Or that we're both OK
waltzers but we're somehow working at cross purposes?

I'd never seen the term "Scandanavian waltz" until I got back and read
Andrew's message, but that seems to be what I'm doing. (I presume she
is too :-) ). 

We quickly agreed to amend "You need to work on your waltzing" to "We
need to work on our waltzing" but as to how to go about it, I need
your advice, Dear Abby. This is a woman I'd very much like to waltz
well with, so I await your reply with bated breath.

--
  Rich Holmes                                rsholmes@mailbox.acs.syr.edu
Xref: sparky rec.folk-dancing:1710 ott.events:50
From: baril@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing,ott.events
Subject: Ottawa Contra Dance 18 Sep 92
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:37:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Bell-Northern Research


               
                    Old Sod Folk Music Society 

   Country dance (mostly contras) with the Old Sod Dance Band under 
   the direction of Ian Robb. Beginners and experienced dancers are
   all welcome.

               Friday, 18 September 1992
               Alexander Community Centre
               960 Silver St.
               Ottawa

               8 p.m.

    $7 (non-members) $6 (members)

   Reply by email for more info.

   David Baril
   baril@bnr.ca    "Since this is nearly my first posting, I haven't
                    figured out a clever quote yet."
From: campbell@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Folk Dance Workshop
Date: 29 Aug 92 14:56:17 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

University of Northern Iowa will be hosting a workshop of Croatian and
Macedonian folk dances taught by George Tomov 16-18 October 1992.
For further information, send e-mail to KERR@UNI.edu
(or ordinary mail to Kathleen Kerr/School of HPELS/UNI/Cedar Falls IA
50614-0161)


              INTERNATIONAL FOLK DANCE WORKSHOP WITH GEORGE TOMOV 
                              OCTOBER 16-18, 1992

George Tomov, a highly respected authority on dance of the Balkans, will be 
teaching dances of Macedonia and Croatia.  He danced professionally with both 
"Tanac," the Macedonian National Folk Ensemble for 10 years, and with "Lado," 
the Croatian National Folk Ensemble for 5 years.  George has directed his own 
dance company in New York for the past 18 years.  He has taught at major dance 
workshops on both the East coast and the West coast.  We are delighted and 
honored to sponsor his appearance in the Midwest! 

(preregistration: $25, payment for individual sessions also possible)

FOR MORE INFORMATION please contact:                       
 Kathleen Kerr                       
 School of HPELS, UNI                 
 Cedar Falls, IA 50614-0161                                   
 (319)273-6195, 273-2654 (work)          
 (319)266-4116 home (messages)
From: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: waltz: how fast is danceable?
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:21:45 GMT
Reply-To: tzf@csl.biosci.arizona.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson

In article <IeauPuq00WBN43641s@andrew.cmu.edu>, dp2p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Denys Proteau) writes:
|>    Do you mean that in 1 2 & 3 there is a step on the &?
|> I think I have seen this done by the ballroom dancers that meet in my
|> building, and I have some questions about it:  In what I saw, there was
|> a pattern of a certain number of (1 2 3)'s and then a single (1 2 & 3). 
|> Do people ever dance it without a such a specific pattern?  Do people
|> ever put an & step between the 1 & 2 beats or the 3 & 1?  It seems to me

I've seen people use this pattern in the country swing bars. Country
waltzes are generally pretty slow; what some people do is use the 2-step
pattern (qqSS or SSqq) to waltz music. Works for them just fine.