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From: ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Nitrous Oxide...
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:57:21 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners

[yay -- our news feed is fixed! no more 5 day delay...]

All this talk about nitrous has brought back some fond memories of back at
school... Does anyone know where I could get a cracker (either metal or
plastic is fine) either in the Boston or the New York area? I like the
Radio Shack idea, but I'd rather have a real twist-type cracker if I could
get one (are they legal in MA?). For anyone reading in Cambridge, btw, the
kitchen store in CambridgeSide Galleria sells cartridges.

I recall the farthest-out (drug) experience I've ever had. I was tripping
with my girlfriend, on something like 2-3 hits, and it was right around the
peak. We filled some balloons with 4-5 cartridges (they fit in big balloons
if you are careful), and breathed it in, recycling it.

Wow. The extent of my memory about it was that I was a fish, swimming
slightly below the surface of a stream.

That, however, was an exceptional occurrence. I've felt various things
various times (often depending on dosage -- I've done anywhere from 1
cartridge to two consecutive balloons of 5 cartridges each. 'course at
least half of the second balloon went to waste after I couldn't hold on to
it any longer! :-)). There is the omnipresent "badoinga-badoinga" sound, as
if a racquetball game were going on in my head. I've noticed spatial
distortions; I reall once I was sitting down, looking at two people who
were ~4 feet in front of me, ~4 feet apart. One looked tiny (maybe a couple
of feet tall), and one looked huge (maybe 10 feet tall).

One incredible experience was that I felt like I was a polygon (a square,
triangle, or hexagon) swirling into a singular point. For anyone who has
seen the Frost & Fire AfterDark module for the Mac (in the Info-Mac
archives) -- it was very similar to that. (btw -- this is a *very* trippy
AD module... Highly recommended)

I think nitrous is the most *fun* drug I've ever done (not that my
experience is too extensive). I bought ten boxes once, and was through them
in two days. It's kinda addictive -- you do it, and you instantly want to
do it again. But I haven't in many months, and would love to again...

--Erik (who is deleriously happy to see articles with TODAY'S date on them!)

-- 
Erik Bailey   | Cambridge Technology Partners      | The usual disclaimer
              | 304 Vassar St., Cambridge MA 02139 | applies: this post is
ebail@ctp.com | (617) 374-8418                     | mine, not my employer's.
      /earth is 98% full; please remove any excess inhabitants.
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:14:28 GMT
Organization: Microdata Oy

berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:

>Helium appears to be used recreationally too.  Some anesthesia
>literature mentions side effects similar to nitrous oxide, but
>much more mild.

   Once, when I was demonstrating the Mickey Mouse effect for a friend, got
a little carried away and forgot to breathe enough air, I experienced some
kind of a psychoactive effect which was far from enjoyable. It was like my
mind was totally shut down without being unconscious. It was a frozen
moment which only lasted for a few seconds but scared me shitless. I always
thought it was because of lack of oxygen.
--
Jani Heinonen                    "Tonight when I chase the dragon,
jah@mits.mdata.fi                 The water may turn to cherry wine
Finger for public PGP key         And the silver will turn to gold
E-mailed upon request             Time out of mind."
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ibarrett@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (I G Barrett)
Subject: Re: Why use drugs anyway?
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 13:12:27 GMT

Living is generally fairly dangerous - stupidity can get you killed much more
quickly, but most people are reasonably responsible in their activities.  
You do what you enjoy, have an 'exciting' life and one day you die.  WRT
drugs, some people enjoy a wide variety of drugs while others get nothing
from them.  I should think that crossing the road has more chance of
killing you off early than taking recreational drugs in a responsible way.

Swan Wulfgur			I turned silences and nights into words.
				What was unutterable, I wrote down.
brrian04@uctvax.uct.ac.za	I made the whirling world stand still.
ibarrett@casper.cs.uct.ac.za		- Arthur Rimbaud
						A Season in Hell

				Swans fly silently to the burning sky.


	Alcohol is a Drug	Caffeine is a Drug 	Nicotine is a Drug

				Are you Anti-Drugs?
From: davidc@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (David Cake)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: 1 Oct 1992 14:21:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

zane@infopls.chi.il.us (Sameer Parekh) writes:


>	'Lo, a friend is interested in the dangers involved with Nitrous
>Oxide.  I know that there are some dangers and precautions that must be
>taken, but all I can remember is that you shouldn't inhale directly out
>of the pressurized tank.

	Yes, don't inhale from the tank, you'll freeze your lips to it.
A bit of plastic tube like they use in aquariums will do. 
	The main DANGERS (as opposed to side effects) are falling over,
(which is easily prevented by sitting down), and hypoxia from not 
breathing enough oxygen. Important things to remember are good air flow
(if using very large amounts), remembering to breath (and not hyper
ventilating), and sitting not hunched over. Not too hard.
If possible get a regulator (I'm not sure about feasability of diving
gear), but don't fix a mask to your face, or you might pass out and die.
SIDE EFFECTS/TOXICITY- very few. It seems pretty safe if used sensibly.
It is teratogenic (will damage a fetus) so AVOID if pregnant. If used
for huge lengths of time over many days, it causes vitamin B12
deficiency which can result in pernicious anaemia (which can lead to
permanent nerve damage), but beware if you have low B12 intake (ie
vegans). It kills fast developing cells (ie fetus) so can cure cancer
in rats! There are also some very rare cases of bizarre nerve damage,
but which is reversible when you stop. It can also trigger off the rare
hereditary syndrome of malignant hyperthermia, where your body
temperature rises uncontrollably and you die, but if you have this
(very, very unlikely unless you have a family history) you can also die
from any anaesthetic, local or general, and possibly XTC, so your
probably dead already. 
	I can get real references for all this (and more information),
but email me (I don't regularly read this group).
	Questions for non-Australians. How easy is it to get in large
quantitys? (Like 3 foot tall tanks) Is it actually illegal (I think it
is officially prescription only for human use here, but easy to get for
non human use)? How widespread is its use? Has anyone got any more
references, especially in combination with other drugs?

						Bye

							Dave 
							Karen
							Margaret



and



>Sameer Parekh   zane@ddsw1.MCS.COM      zane@infopls.chi.il.us
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:16438 alt.folklore.urban:24532
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Ethereal high.....
Date: 30 Sep 92 03:12:13 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Sep29.183748.25712@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>nuke@reed.edu (Bill Newcomb) writes:
>
>>>Just curious....  I know that during the ninteenth century, ether was
>>>used in much the recreational way alcohol is now.  Why did that become
>>>a tidbit from the past?

Not quite the same as alcohol, the drug of the masses.  Ether was used 
recreationally by doctors, the rich elite and poet types (Byron, Shelley,
Coleridge et al).  It was not readily available as a diversion for 
the masses.  

>Maybe because they simply had more derelicts than we do now?

These people were not quite what you would call derelicts!  

>	I think the brain and liver damage that solvents such as ether 
>and glue quickly cause is, at least in part, the cause of their unpopularity.

No, mostly because a little too much and you fell asleep.  Great fun at 
parties. "Hi gorgeous my name isszzzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ snore snore"

Most of the damage is caused, not by the solvents, but by the substances
dissolved within them.  It doesn't require much thought to realise that 
paint or glue are not ideal substances to coat the inside of your lungs with.

>>AS an aside, can anyone offer any insight into the pharmacological action of
>>ether, perhaps even elucidating the mechanism by which my head came to hurt?

If I remember rightly the mechanism is to do with affecting partial fluid/gas
pressures within the brain.  Which is why all volatile solvents have an 
anaesthetic effect.  

ObUL: Victory 'V' losenges (available in Britain) contain chloroform and 
      if you eat more than four packets in one go..."

Derek "Never managed more than four packets without falling asleep" Tearne

-- 
Derek Tearne. -- derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz --  Fujitsu/ICL New Zealand -- 
Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
From: u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Ethereal high.....
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:10:25 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <3255@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>, jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier) writes:
> In <1992Sep29.183748.25712@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
> 
>>	I think the brain and liver damage that solvents such as ether 
>>and glue quickly cause is, at least in part, the cause of their unpopularity.
> 
> I don't know why you include ether here. The solvent ethyl alcohol is
> probably more dangerous on both these counts. There are dangers from
> using ether, mostly the result of it being highly flammable, and it is
> breathed. Also, it is easier to take a fatal dose of ether than alcohol.

I would be really surprised if either sniffing or (parce deus)
drinking diethyl ether were safer than either sniffing or drinking
ethanol in equivalent quantities. (though I don't know any
etherics, if that's what you meant :)
> 
>>They also can make one feel awfully sick, which is no boost.
> 
> The _smell_ of ether often makes me feel ill, but alcohol sometimes
> has the same effect on me (memories of past hangovers?).

Ether can certainly cause nausea and vomiting, and not just from the
smell. Perhaps someone wants to look up the toxicity data, and
find out why it is no longer (widely) used as an anasthetic.
I was under the impression that it is less hepatotoxic than
chloroform, but still rather unpleasant to the body.

Jeremy
jeremy@rsc3.anu.edu.au
From: s8818037@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Matthew James Leayr)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: pseudoephedrine
Date: 28 Sep 92 04:18:47 GMT
Reply-To: s8818037@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Matthew James Leayr)
Organization: none
Organisation: Uni Of New South Wales



 	I seem to remember someone saying that methamphetamine can be produced
from ephedrine (?). Is the same true of pseudoephedrine???
would it be a complex conversion?

just wondering....

Matt.
From: MORGAN_J@SUMMER.CHEM.SU.OZ.AU
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [anonymous posting] ibogaine query
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:23:08 GMT


Jeremy (u8951608@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au) writes

>.... I know no more about this at all, except that I think
>someone mentioned to me that it has been isolated recently
>from an Australian plant (Australian Phytochemical Survey
>would be the place to look).

Which is true. 'Plants for Medicines' is the book version of the APS,
and reports that _Ervatamia orientalis_, a Queensland rainforest species
contains .84% alkaloids, some of which is ibogaine (don't know how much, but
could probably find out if I'm asked). In addition to ibogaine there are a
number of related alkaloids, some of which will almost certainly be active,
distributed in plants around the country. The most promising source is
probably the Tasmanian Elaeocarpaceae species _Aristotelia Peduncularis_ which
contains at least 5 different alkaloids based on the DMT or ibogaine nucleus,
none of which contain polar groups, and several other such alkaloids which do.
(Sorry, the structures are too complicated to render in Ascii.) Other 
Aristotelia species are similarly endowed. So much for _Tabernanthe Iboga_
being the only source for this family of chemicals.

And in a similar vein, we have plants with yohimbine alkaloids. No one has
reported yohimbine itself, but the same _Ervatamia orientalis_ contains 
yohimbine with an OH group at the 5 position on the indole ring, and other
plants contain other variations.

There are a lot of untasted tryptamines out there. Perhaps someone in Tasmania
could track down Aristotelia and give it a burl. Or maybe I'll do it, after I
write my thesis :-).

john
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
John Morgan
Dept of Physical Chemistry
University of Sydney
morgan_j@summer.su.oz.au
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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: Invention of Crack Cocaine
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:42:34 GMT

gal2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Jacob Galley) writes:


>A while ago I think there was a thread about the social and economic
>factors leading to the invention of crack cocaine. Ie, that the WosD
>generated a demand for a form of cocaine that was easier to smuggle,
>easier or cheaper to produce, more addictive, etc, than good ol'
>powdered cocaine. Can anyone provide evidence for this claim (other
>than common sense -- I don't know that much about either form)? I have
>occasionally used this argument to argue about prohibition, but
>without much substance to back it up with.


I've heard that one too, and there is little substance to back it
up.  Crack came about simply because sellers realized two things:

1) freebase is more rewarding than sniffing
2) many buyers are too stupid or lazy to base it up themselves,
   but would still buy hits that were based up for them.

They started selling it pre-based up, in little rocks, ala the
Mcdonalds or KFC of drugs sales, and a new drug marketing method 
was born.   

Jim Del Vecchio
From: raineykriste@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: legal high
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:28:52 CDT
Keywords: doobie of humanity
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <1992Sep26.032458.18622@eskimo.celestial.com>, nanook@eskimo.celestial.com (Robert Dinse) writes:
> In article <1992Sep18.190029.26478@Cadence.COM>, bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson) writes:
>> In article <Bu6K2z.FoM@wpi.WPI.EDU> giovanni@wpi.WPI.EDU (Giovanni S Capriglione) writes:
>> >Was wondering if anyone had a comprehensive list of legal drugs like moring glory, hawaiian primrose, etc.  Also some places which sell them like nature stores, etc....
>> >
>>   Partial answer, you can buy morning glory seeds from almost anyplace
>> that sells flower seeds, because these are very popular flowers. The
>> kind you want are Heavenly Blue or Pearly Gates...interesting names, 
>> eh? The problem with these seeds are that they are sprayed with anti-
>> fungal (sounds like one of my relatives) agents which are not meant
>> for human consumption. What to do? I recommend planting the seeds
>> and growing your own. It takes a year, but in the meantime, you'll
>> get some really pretty flowers! You could try to wash the stuff off,
>> but I really do not know what will and what will not work for this
>> purpose. BTW, either way these seeds will have a rather dramatic
>> effect on your stomach. Good Luck!
> 
>      For what it's worth, Chas Lilly Co's Heavenly Blue Morning Glory seed
> packages have a warning on them "Not for feed or oil purposes".
> 
>      I wrote to ask them why this warning appeared and only on this seed
> variety, and I specifically asked if their were any preservatives or other
> chemical adulterants.
> 
>      I was told that the warning was there because of the popularity of using
> the seeds as a hallucinogen.  I was further told that there were no
> preservatives or chemical addatives in any of their seeds, and that federal
> law required such chemically treated seeds to have a brightly colored coating.
> 
>      So, in the US at least, it would appear safe, and at least from this
> particular company.  By the way should anybody be interested, there address is:
> 
> Chas H. Lilly Co.
> 7737 N.E. Killingsworth
> Portland, Or.  97218
> 
>      Now I'll add to that, three packets didn't even provide a mild buzz, nor
> did it produce any of the nausea I've heard reports of.
> 
>      Something else, around here at least it's difficult to impossible to find
> these seeds late in the season.  

We feel incredibly sorry for anyone who is so desperate to get a buzz that 
they resort to garden center flower seeds!  We Here at BVC (in Iowa, BTW) 
don't feel the need to use drugs...we are smoking the doobie of humanity.

--Suite 9
> 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: homer@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Homer Smith)
Subject: Re: FUND RAISING
Organization: Me
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:24:24 GMT


     I have 200 or so seconds fractal T-shirts that I am willing
to sell to anyone officially connected to the fund raising activities
of organizations that promote an end to the drug war, or the
decriminalization of hemp.
 
     These shirts were wrongly printed with a conservative yellow
ink rather than the super-bright-punch-you-in-the-nose yellow ink
that we usually use.  Thus their color is more conservative than
our usual shirts, but other than that they are fine.
 
      Some of them had a small problem with the ink not being
put on heavily enough in one corner so a litle bit of a white
fuzz shows through under the color.
  
     The shirts are printed on both sides, on 100 percent heavy
weight cotton Haines Beefy T's, top of the line best you can get
white T-shirts.  Sizes are Large and X-large only.
 
     My cost of production including the printing was $6.00 a shirt.
I am willing to part with them for $3.00 a shirt plus shipping
which is my cost of the white blank shirt before printing.
 
     You should easily be able to sell these shirts for $5.00 each,
and at that price they are a real steal.  Its easy money for those
of you putting on events or concerts for your 'free the hemp plant'
campaign.
 
     If you are interested, please e-mail as soon as possible.
They won't be around for long.  I am willing send a sample to those
of you who are officially associated with such an anti drug enterprise
as long as you can demonstrate that you intend to resell them for a 
profit to fund your anti drug activities.
 
     No personal sales, please.
 
     Homer
From: voss@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (stephen voss)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: FDA's not so bad...
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:36:37 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

If the FDA were at the point of seriously testing mj rather than letting 
a political branch like the dea just publish anti-mj propaganda. I think 
a lot more people would be willing to stick their necks out . I actually 
think thats where the testing of these kinds of substances belong since 
if people could prove to most people in honest tests that mj is less 
harmful than many legal substances . We probably could get medical 
authorization for it and everyone knows once somethings available by 
prescription one can probably mail order it. Not only that once generic 
versions become available the price will drop dramatically
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bashamb@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (BASHAM BRYAN DUANE)
Subject: Tripping on brownies (was: mull trips and meditation)
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:25:37 GMT

I've never heard the term "mull" before; but I'll accept Chris'
definition as "hash or leaf".  

I personally have never tripped from smoking weed or hash alone;
although I have had a flash-back triggered by smoking once -- maybe
this is the same?

However, I have a recipe for pot-brownies that will make one
trip.  The recipe must call for oil (usually a butter based
recipe can be substituted with an equivalent amount of oil).
I use a scratch recipe, but that is not important.  What is 
important is to saute' the weed in the oil until the oil retains
a greenish-brown appearance; this usually takes about 20-30
minutes on low/simmer setting.  [Be warned that this will
produce a lot of pot vapors/smoke, which will premeate (SP?)
the house.]  Follow the recipe as usual adding the sauted pot
where the oil is called for.  I usually use a potent quantity
of weed; from 1oz to 1quarter depending upon the quality of the
weed and the desired dosage.  Typically, I use 1/2oz of very 
good weed in a recipe for an 9x9 pan.  This makes about 25
small squares.  Typically, four such squares are sufficient
for an LSD-like trip lasting four hours.  However, the tripping
relationship is not linear.  One square will not make one trip
for one hour; in fact, it may not even get you high.  If you
are looking for a good buzz, then 2-3 squares should do and not
make you trip.  [THIS IS NOT AN EXACT SCIENCE.  So, try it and
experiment.]  I find the tripping experience less dramatic the
with LSD or mushrooms, but very pleasant and controllable.
This recipe is usually quite expensive compared to a dose of
blotter or caps/stems, but it's a nice alternative when those
are hard to find.

Enjoy,
BASH Man
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:14:34 GMT

In article <BvnKM0.Ky9@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>Helium appears to be used recreationally too.  Some anesthesia
>literature mentions side effects similar to nitrous oxide, but
>much more mild.

The only way helium is used recreationally is to make you sound like
Donald Duck.  It is most definitely not an anesthetic at any conceivable
pressure; it's used in specialized diving situations to avoid nitrogen
narcosis and the bends.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: deuelpm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Hobbit)
Subject: Re: Stems or heads
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:13:01 GMT

jjf@cats.ucsc.edu (Jeffrey John Furman) writes:


>A friend and I are having an argument and I was wondering if anyone
>out there could give us any help (references please)

>What part of the mushroom contains more psilocybin, the heads of the
>stems? 

Wouldn't it be a lot more fun to test out your respective guesses?

	o One day (days?) use *only* stems--both of you.

	o Next time, use the leftover heads from last time.

	o Then you be the judge.

I know its not exacly the easy argument settling answer you wanted, but
it sounds like a hell of a lot more fun that staring at some VDT looking
for answers, doesn't it?
%)

l8r,     (have fun!)

Pete
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