From: Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov>
Subject: Re: WELLLLL! IT'S DAY ONE. WHERE'S THE PLAN???
X-Xxdate: Thu, 28 Jan 93 08:36:58 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Engineering & Sciences Company
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:40:53 GMT

In article <1k73ktINNbo2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Richard A. Mulac,
ck347@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
> So, making promises to people which you have no intention of keeping
> is not a reflection of character?  Hmmm, you and I must have grown up
> differently.

I live in the real world Richard. I didn't hear you complaining when Bush
broke almost every campaign promise he made. The fact is that campaign
promises mean nothing because of the nature of politics. We may not
like that situation, but we, the voters, created it.
> 
> > ...
> >FACT: Arkansas students went from 50th to 20th in standardized test
> >scores under Clinton's education reforms.
> 
> Now this would interest me.  What tests are you talking about?

National standardized tests like the ones all students take.

> 
> >FACT: Arkansas went from 50th to 47th in manufacturing.
> 
> Ooooh!  This I don't consider worth bragging about.

In a state as resource poor and depressed as Arkansas was when Clinton
became governor, this is considered to be good improvement by the experts.
Why don't you present some facts which prove there could have been more
improvement. I'll listen.

> 
> >FACT: Arkansas has made modest to great strides in several catagories
> >despite having little in natural resources or state revenue.
> 
> Great strides in polluting the state and attracting low wage jobs.

I want proof of this. Come on Richard, let's hear it.

> 
> >FACT: The governors (Repub and Demo) voted Clinton to be the MOST
> >EFFECTIVE GOVERNOR in the country.
> 
> This is meaningless.

Why?... Because it is contrary to this delusionary conservative world
you have concocted for a Democrat to be admired by Republicans?
Even Reagan admired Clinton before he ran for president. That is a fact.

> 
> >...
> >> I would really like to hear from Clinton supporters on which Clinton
> >> policies were responsible for attracting their votes.  I would
> >> expect most of them to deal with THE ECONOMY (STUPID!), since Clinton
> >> himself said he would exert 'laser-like' focus on that issue.
> >
> >And it is the subject he has spent the most time on since election day.
> 
> Huh?  He's spent the majority of his time on social tinkering.

Yeah....and the economic summit never happened. Again, prove this
statement.

> 
> >At least wait until the program is unveiled before criticizing it....
> >You guys were screaming for deficit reduction and he has been adjusting
> >his program toward increased deficit reduction. I would think you would
> >be happy......unless all your complaining was just partisan
belly-aching.
> >No....that couldn't possibly be it.  :-/
> 
> In fact, last week he relaxed budget restraints designed to reduce the
> deficit (11% across the board cuts).

Citation please. Reason please. Context please.

The new reports of business failures and lay-offs probably had alot to
do with that. Learn some economics.

>  
> >> Now, how many of those policies has he abandonded or shows signs
> >> of abandoning?  You know, I never thought the day would come when I
> >> would cheer for the Congress (both Democrats and Republicans), but in
> >> recent days I have been.
> >
> >What are you talking about????
> 
> Don't you watch the news?

more than you do obviously.

Norman

Dr. Norman J. LaFave
Senior Engineer
Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company




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