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From: js@gaaj.uottawa.ca (Jean-Serge Gagnon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: SUMMARY: Upgrading to HPFS from FAT
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:52:05 GMT
Organization: Computing & Communications, Ottawa University

Hi,
    I while back, I asked the net if anyone could give me any hints on going
from a FAT partition on my HD (170Meg) to the HPFS since I had upgraded my
RAM from 5Meg to 8Meg. To be honest, I didn't get any usefull replies, so I
decided to go at it anyways with my common sense. I am posting this now, so
that others can do it better than I did, and not make the same mistakes.

WHAT I DID:
    I had a tape backup that works via the parallel port, so I openned a DOS
window and did the backup. It took 4 hours (for 125Meg) with over 40 files
that couldn't be oppened, almost all in the /OS2/DLL directory.
    After that, I re-formated my HD for HPFS (one partition, again) and re-
installed OS/2. After that, I did a restore (In a DOS window) with "don't
overwrite existing files" option. Needless to say that I didn't have my old
desktop, so I tried restoring all files anyways, except for the "uncopied"
ones (I had written them down). That just ****ed everything up, so I
installed OS/2 again and re-built my desktop from there.


WHAT I WOULD HAVE DONE TODAY, KNOWING ALL I KNOW NOW:
    I would have booted from DOS on a floppy to do the backup, that way all
files, without exception would have been copied.
    I would have proceded to re-installing OS/2, but minimally (no options),
and would have done a restore of the OS/2 specific files to an other
directory. Then would have booted from floppy (the install and disk 1, then
"ESC"); xcopied (with /s) all the files from the temporary directory to the
OS/2 directories, to replace the minimally installed OS/2 with my backed-up
copy. Then, re-booted and restored the rest of the tape.


NOTES:
    Of course, if you only have a minimal hard disk (60meg?) you could
always do a backup/restore to floppy using the OS/2 programs by booting from
floppy each time, if you have enough disks (that's about 55 1.44Meg disks
for a 60Meg HD that's full), that way, you wouldn't even have to re-install
OS/2 at all.

    An other thing; I will eventually re-partition my HD with 35Meg OS/2
HPFS boot partition, 20Meg DOS 5.0 FAT bootable and the rest HPFS data. The
reason is simple, the 35Meg is in case OS/2 has to be re-installed; errors,
upgrades, etc. and the 20Meg is for non OS/2 compatible software, or games
that are just a bit too slow (like Wolfenstein 3D).


Hope this helps anybody that's in the same situation.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry)
Subject: Re: Using MTEZ to fax under OS/2 2.0 (any hints welcomed)
Originator: parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:18:12 GMT

Slan (rhymes with pawn) (bradleyt@spot.Colorado.EDU) wrote:
> 
> I'm having a problem with the fax part and I recall seeing
> a long discussion on faxing under OS/2 here a couple of
> months ago.  At the time, unfortunately, I didn't have any
> interest because I didn't have a fax modem, but now I do.
> 
> The problem I've having (and it's a doozy) is that whenever
> I use the FAX portion of MTEZ, when I go to exit the program,
> it completely stops OS/2 with a Trap 000d.  The program seems
> to work fine under standalone DOS, but in an OS/2 VDM, it
> just brings the whole system down (which, from my understanding
> of the concept of virtual machines and protected operating
> systems, isn't supposed to happen).
> 
> Now, in rapid fire list format, here are my questions:
> 
> 1. Does anyone else use MTEZ under OS/2 2.0?  If so, is it
> possible to get the fax part to work?

I use it but not much. I have a Zoom v32bis internal faxmodem. I have
used FAXMAN (the fax part of MTEZ) in a VDM and it worked. I didn't play
with it much but I do know I have never got any TRAP errors ever.

> 
> 2. Is my recollection that DOS fax programs in general are
> not suitable for OS/2 correct?
> 
> 3. Considering the big deal made about how advanced OS/2 is
> because it protects DOS sessions from one another, how is it 
> that one single program can kill the whole OS/2 system?

I have wondered this myself...

-- 
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Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.misc:27933 comp.os.os2.networking:1089
From: keating@casemo.UUCP (John Keating )
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: Re: No network object, but there should be..
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:55:24 GMT
Organization: Dowty Communications, Inc.

In article <1992Aug21.102306.2302@donau.et.tudelft.nl>, linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee) writes:
> I was just reading through the manuals and found a passage saying
> that if your computer is connected to a network, a network object
> is put on your desktop. Now the computer I installed on is connected
> to a LAN through a IBM Token Ring card, but I did not get the object.
> Is there a way to install this afterwards, and why wasn't it straight
> off? The machine is an IBM PS/2 model 56 SX by the way.

I (and a co-worker) have the same problem as Erik.  We have 3Com Etherlink
Cards (Mine is an MC, and his is a II (Which Works, Thanks To All!)), plus
we are running FTP's PC/TCP 1.2.  The PC/TCP allows us to use the network,
but how do we play chess?  :^)

John
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From: bigred@vnet.ibm.com (Greg Forney  bigred@vnet.ibm.com)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:06:39 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: *** Many important (to me) questions about OS/2 ***
Reply-To: bigred@vnet.ibm.com (Greg Forney)
Organization: IBM

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
X-X-From: bigred@vnet.ibm.com (Greg Forney)
            <1992Aug14.190421.26238@njitgw.njit.edu>

In <1992Aug14.190421.26238@njitgw.njit.edu> David Charlap writes:
>In article <BsxwvA.Eyr@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> bcrwhims@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Carsten) writes:
>>
>>- I have heard recently that a fast hard-drive makes a difference. Is this
>>  true? In that case, I would love to replace my ridiculous 40M 27ms drive
>>  with a 200M, 12-15ms IDE drive. Any comments? Will this enable me to make
>>  better use of the extra 2M, if I upgrade to 8M?
>
>I'd think so.  If you don't have enough RAM (and maybe even if you
>do), OS/2 swaps stuff to the disk.  The faster the disk, the quicker
>this will go.  The bigger the disk, the more you can swap.
>
My experience is that disk speed is really important even in the
absence of SWAPPing. If the above disk drive versus 6-8Meg
memory upgrade were offered to me as "either-or" I'd opt for
the faster disk.

GregF (someday I'll figure out signature files on the Interface I'm on)
Organization: European Academic Research Network (EARN)
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 14:55:19 GMT
From: Turgut Kalfaoglu <TURGUT@FRMOP11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: SVGA won't work

What is your VGA card? It appears that SVGA does not recognise it..

-turgut
From: heinz@edohwg.UUCP (Heinz Wrobel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Numlock troubles...
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:32:26 GMT
Organization: Edotronik GmbH

OS/2 always clears Numlock on me when I start up some command shell. I have
an MF-II layout and I use the numeric keypad a lot. So this is quite
annoying.

Anybody got any idea on how to stop this?

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From: bigred@vnet.ibm.com (Greg Forney  bigred@vnet.ibm.com)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 09:49:38 EDT
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: How to safely recover from Ctrl-Alt-Del?
Reply-To: bigred@vnet.ibm.com (Greg Forney)
Organization: IBM

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
X-X-From: bigred@vnet.ibm.com (Greg Forney)

In <1992Aug15.010213.16098@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> Sumant Kumar Sahay writes:
>I have recently installed OS/2 v2.0 XR02000 with FAT and dual boot.
>A Windows user took a look at my OS/2 system and in order to revert it
>to the native mode DOS, saved the Autoexec.bat as Autoexec.os2, copied
>Autoexec.001 to Autoexec.bat, and did the three finger salute
>(a la Ctrl-Alt-Del).
>The result was the following message -
>
>OS/2 !! SYS01195
>The system cannot find the file "C:\COUNTRY\SYS". This device driver,
>program, or data file is not located in the default path specified
>for it in the CONFIG.SYS file. Install this file in the correct
>directory, or correct the appropriate CONFIG.SYS file statement.
>
>The system is stopped.
>
>Correct the preceding error and restart the system.
>
>My question is, can I *safely* boot from A drive using a DOS 5.0 boot
>disk, make the necessary changes and the reboot the computer (i.e.
>hit the red button.)  I was not able to make the boot disk, yet, for
>OS/2 as I was looking for the SYS command in OS/2 and HELP SYS did not
>work.  Meanwhile, I am still searching for my original OS/2
>installation disks.

Mucking with the autoexec.bat wouldn't cause your problem. Mucking
with the CONFIG.SYS in the same manner definitely would. Are you
sure this isn't what happened? When I have experiemented with CONFIG.SYS
and thoroughly broken my system in a similar manner, I used a DOS
3.3 disk to boot and edlin the CONFIG.SYS. I have experienced no
no problems from doing so. (Your mileage may vary, but I doubt it)

>Another question that comes to mind is, shouldn't the Autoexec.bat
>file for OS/2 be named Autoexec.cmd?  At least, then it would be
>a deterrent for such mishaps.
>
If I had been the chief archietect of OS/2, I probably would have
found a different name for CONFIG.SYS.

GregF
From: rm3@ornl.gov (MCBROOM R C)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: sorry to bothr with such small questions
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:35:13 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory

In article <1992Aug12.034102.27388@unixg.ubc.ca> ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth) writes:
>
>I think the standard VGA windows driver is the only one that will let WinOS/2
>run in the background. Either you are using another SVGA Windows driver, or
>the DOCS are wrong.
>
The Orchid drivers make everything stop on my ZEOS system.  I'm not
happy.

>Compare with a NON OS/2 aware Windows driver: even in the background it will
>try to update the display continually. This is silly, because the user can't see
>a background program. OS/2 suspends these kind of drivers, because it would
>waste heaps of CPU time to  emulate 800x600 graphics hardware.
>
>This is why other graphics programs are suspended too (even under Windows
>I think)
>
And those graphics programs are just the ones that need to be processed
in the background so that all I have to watch are the startup and the
final result.  This is what the virtual machines, memory mapped video
etc. are supposed to take care of for me so that I don't have to watch each
pel being painted!!

Speaking of slow, has any one but me noticed that in win-os2 programs
whenever a secondary window is moved so that it is partially cut by the
edge of the primary window, it goes into a crawling refresh mode where
each line is labouriously painted?

Of course I'm trying to push the limits.  I'm running win-os2 in
1024x768x16 and WPS in 1024x768x256 using the proii8 driver on a
Speedstar +.

Any comments to email as keeping up with this news is impossible.


Robert McBroom internet: rm3@ornl.gov
From: rolfe@w3vh.UUCP (Rolfe Tessem)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 and ESDI -- also, Netware Requestor...
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 12:28:27 GMT
Organization: Lucky Duck Productions

thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes in article <1992Aug22.170933.42505@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>:

> At work, we are considering putting OS/2 2.0 on a 486 system with
> an ESDI 660 mb hard disk.  I think I remember reading news stuff a 
> while back that described problems of using OS/2 with ESDI drives.
> Is this true?  If this is in the FAQ, sorry.  

There is certainly no generic problem with ESDI, per se. I'm
running two Imprimis 383H ESDI drives and a WD1007-SE2 controller
and didn't have to do anything special during the install.

Your mileage may vary (there may be problems with specific
controllers, although I'm not aware of any.)

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From: pathak@mitre.org (Heeren Pathak)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Symmetric multiprocessing kernel - a neat idea...
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:12:30 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: Mitre Corporation

In article <1992Aug17.180859.25753@njitgw.njit.edu>, dic5340@hertz.njit.edu
(David Charlap) wrote:
> 
> >BTW:  I believe that IBM is looking into using the Mach micro-kernel for
> >the next version.  This is the same micro-kernel used in the NeXT computer
> >and in OSF/1.
> 
> A great idea.  I heard this was the plan for porting OS/2 to the
> RS-6000 platform.  Are they going to do this for the Intel-x86
> platform as well?  This would be great, since we could then add new
> API's without complicated translation or VDM's.  Just let Mach select
> the proper API server.  The only exception would be DOS - I don't see
> how Mach could provide a DOS API server that would be fully compatible
> with DOS - you'd still need VDM's for that.

Since we are swapping rumors...

What I have heard is that the OS/2 3.0 will be a "portable" version of OS/2
(just like NT before the name was changed).  It will be available for the
Intel-x86 platform.

The idea of going to the RS-6000 platform requires a portable OS so OS/2
3.0 will probably be the first version that runs on top of it.  IBM
supposedly was also looking at swapping the current AIX kernel with the
Mach kernel...

Apple also recently announced that when (if) they release their next major
system release, System 8.0, it will also have a micro-kernel....  Since IBM
and Apple are working on an advanced next generation OS together, these
things together leads to some interesting speculation.

But, these are all rumors....  We will have to see if anything actually
becomes reality.

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From: ignacij@meishan.animal.uiuc.edu (Ignacy Misztal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Word Perfect under OS/2
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:38:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: meishan.ignacij.714281920
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

holmes@gorilla.nbn.com (Tim Holmes) writes:

>When I use WP 5.1 under OS/2, it has a very hard time opening 
>text files.  Little ones will eventually open, but with large ones,
>say over 80k, WP says "DOS text conversion in progress", but it
>just sits there for minutes (or longer, I haven't waited) with
>no hard disk accesses or anything.  I went through it with
>IBM Tech Support in Florida, and they were able to duplicate the problem, 
>but it was kind of left as, "well, you should call back and see if
>there's any news, this report will be automatically erased in
>28 days."  Didn't inspire too much confidence.

>There must be people running WP under OS/2.  This seems like a
>pretty major bug.  I hope this one isn't just erased after 28 days.
>Anybody out there have this problem?  Or a work around for it?


> 

>==========================================================================
>Tim Holmes             holmes@gorilla.nbn.com             San Rafael, CA
>--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Is your WP in the HPFS partition? In my case, the spelling checker
lockups WP51, but only if it is on HPFS and not FAT.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Numlock troubles...
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:55:05 GMT

In article <heinz.030e@edohwg.UUCP> heinz@edohwg.UUCP (Heinz Wrobel) writes:
>OS/2 always clears Numlock on me when I start up some command shell. I have
>an MF-II layout and I use the numeric keypad a lot. So this is quite
>annoying.

Try KeyLocks, a little utility available via anonymous ftp from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu, to manipulate NumLock.

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From: michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Why can't I communicate??
Date: 18 Aug 92 18:01:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SPACE BBS - Menlo Park, CA - 10 Lines + 4gB - 415-323-4193
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@spacebbs.com (Michael Hagerty) 

S. From: slg1202@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu ()
S.
S. Well, I load up Telix or Telemate in a DOS window and try to download
S. something through my modem and I get a ton of errors.
S. Effective throughput drops to 200cps (should be about 1600cps for v32bis)
S. I reboot DOS and finish the file transfer at 1600cps under "wimpy" DOS 5.0.
S.
S. Am I doing something wrong???
S.
S. BTW... my hardware is as follows:
S. 	486/33, 64k cache, 8meg RAM, 213 Meg HD, ZyXEL EXTERNAL 32bis modem
S. 	connected on com2.

Steve, I am currently running Telemate v3.10 with a ZyXEL internal with
DL's (in the background) of 1630 cps.  Several suggestions:

  - get the COM2210 update from the IBM NSC BBS (or CompuServe or Watson
    FTP); it may also be called COMGA3.  This has some very important
    fixes which may help.

  - Assuming that your comm port has an NS16550AFN (get one if it doesn't)
    you should tell Telemate that you do not have one <g>...  OS/2 will
    manage the 16550, if you have one (once again assuming that you have
    COM2210 or later).

  - Lock the port within Telemate at 38.4K and MAKE SURE that you set the
    DOS SETTINGS to hold the port.

  - You may want to use the settings recommended in the file DOSGAMES to
    lock Telemate in at the highest possible priority.  It is overkill and
    slows down other processes, but it is solid as a rock.

Regards, Mikey
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From: stanton@haas.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: How to reduce CPU taken by DOS programs?
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:14:45 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: connor.berkeley.edu

I just tried using the "PULSE" program, and noticed that when I have a DOS 
window open with FREEMACS (a little EMACS clone) running, CPU usage is up at 
100%. This is silly. I tried using TAME, which works with Desqview, but this 
didn't have any noticeable effect.

Is there a way to reduce the CPU hoggery of DOS programs?

Richard Stanton
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: newbie@dylan.camb.inmet.com (Chris Newbold)
Subject: Re: Use your "unsupported" CD-ROM drive natively with OS/2!
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:00:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.221800.7327@actrix.gen.nz> conrad@actrix.gen.nz (Conrad Bullock) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.194511.27929@inmet.camb.inmet.com> newbie@dylan.camb.inmet.com (Chris Newbold) writes:

...

>> So, I copied the CD-ROM driver CDROM.SYS off my HPFS partition into a FAT
>> parition; load it up under debug. Low and behold. There are a couple of
>> vendor id strings... So, I just replaced the word "TOSHIBA" with "SONY"
>> (filling the three remaining letters with spaces) and wrote it out.
>> 
>> Load up OS/2, copy it back into the HPFS partition, reboot and.. Voila!
>> The happy-little-camper driver installed itself running my Sony drive.
>
>The easiest way is to add the /I parameter (I *think* it's /I), which tells
>the driver to ignore the manufacturer info.

Ah. That would have been easier indeed.

...

>I can't remember which bit of documentation I read about the CDROM.SYS
>flags though - probably one of the (many) INF files available through IBM.

Ha! This is my other gripe about OS/2. The supplied documentation SUCKS.
Even Microsoft provided references about command-line options, etc. 

It seems to me that OS/2 is very power and infinitely customizable. The
trouble is, I have no way of learning what the 5001 options do or what
option to use to get something done. The on-line help, while it seems
"complete" still doesn't have this stuff. That and the search system really
sucks -- anytime I want to try and find out about, say the CD-ROM driver,
I have to page through the damn thing manually. Then I usually give up
before I find anything useful...

-Chris

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From: ochealth@unixg.ubc.ca (ochealth)
Subject: Re: 1280x1024x16 colors with os/2!!!
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:12:08 GMT

In article <f95mdlr.feustel@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
>I've seen a 1280x1024 display of the os/2 workplace shell. I want it!
>The display and controller are from IBM!!! The hardware currently
>costs 6000. Ask for The IBM Image Adapter/A w 3 megabytes and the 6091
>color display. This is microchannel hardware.


<yawn>

16 colors? Where's the 24 bit color? PAL/NTSC/SVHS output? Hardware raytracing?
Hardware display postcript? Weitek coprocessors for animation?

>-- 
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>---
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>Drugs would be killing the Goose that lays golden eggs.


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