HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rlopez@loanstar.tamu.edu (Robert Lopez)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Attraction by Re: Deer Whistles
Keywords: eat more moose
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:35:00 GMT
Organization: The Hosequarium South
NNTP-Posting-Host: loanstar.tamu.edu

In article <55590012@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, spikes@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Bill Spikes) writes:
|> Oh YES! They do attract deer. 

   [stuff deleted]
 
|> The deer looks up and stares at us, I turn off the lights and start to
|> disengage the warp engines. As we get closer, the deer shakes its head,
|> grabs some food and looks back at us as we are still approaching.
|> By this time we're at about 30-40 MPH. The deer is still standing there
|> staring at us, and then, as we pull along even with him (we're doing less
|> than 30 MPH now) he/she runs straight at the van, full bore, and I hear a 
|> thunk in the left rear 1/4 panel. The thing RAMMED us!
 
    [stuff deleted]

|> No, he wasn't blinded by the headlights, they weren't adjusted up high enough
|> and I turned them off as soon as I saw the deer. He was attracted by
|> those deer whistles or he didn't like Dodges.


Well, you probably just had the buggers installed backwards or the
voltage reversed.

smirk.

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From: quan@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Suu Quan)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:56:06 GMT
Subject: Re: any NO FEE ATM in Santa Clara ?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: misc.consumers

info on
TECHNOLOGY FEDERAL CREDIT UNION

I contacted their Sunnyvale branch (408) 522-7700
       1230 Oakmead Parkway (near Highway 101 and Lawrence Expway)

1. you must be a member. Did not ask about membership fees.

2. the first 5 ATM transactions, not from one of their branch, are free.
   The 6th ... and on transaction will be charged $1.00 per transaction.


   Does not seem very attractive to me.
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: durtralp@ux1.isu.edu (Ralph Durtschi)
Subject: Re: Deer Whistles
Organization: Idaho State University, Pocatello
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:23:13 GMT

>In article <C1Gstu.KH0@unx.sas.com>, sasjcs@canoe.unx.sas.com (Joan Stout) writ
>>This isn't scientific, but I know a realtor who works mostly in a      
>>rural and semi-rural area. Collisions with deer happen quite frequently      
>>in this area. The realtor has the whistles on her vehicle, and she says   
>>she hasn't seen a deer near her car since she got them. She's convinced
>>that they work.                                                     
								   
>I have a couple of realtors strapped to my 
>fenders and I haven't hit a deer yet.

>------------------------                                              
>Robert K. Abbott                   

I use a couple of sleazy polititions (is that redundant) strapped to my
hood which works real fine except the paint does peel off clear back to
the front doors.

I guess over all, I would much rather run into the bambies.

Bye for now,
Ralph Durtschi, Idaho State University 

Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: bdewey@grok116.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Bob Dewey)
Subject: Kitchen Aid mixers
Organization: NCR Corp., Columbia SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 17:31:12 GMT

I am looking for a mail order (read inexpensive/discount) source for a Kitchen
Aid food mixer. I am looking for the larger size where you move the bowl
up to the beaters rather than having the head tilt.

Someone posted a similar query a short time ago but I did not see any
responses. 
-- 
Bob Dewey                       e-mail: Bob.Dewey@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM 
Customer Satisfaction, MSBU        fax: (803) 739-7317
MCPD Columbia                    phone: (803) 791-6425 or VoicePlus 632-6425
From: grb@rbyte.proteus.qc.ca (G. Randolph Bickerton)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Manual for a Dishwasher
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:35:23 GMT
Organization: Right Byte Industries, Ville St-Laurent Quebec Canada

shenai@amnese.eng.uab.edu (Aravind Shenai) writes:

> hi
> 
> my cousin has a Philips ES22 (made in germany) dishwasher.
> unfortunately she doesn't have the user manual and is having a tough
> time installing it. she bought it because she got it at a very very
> low price. if any of you have this dishwasher I would like to get a
> xerox copy of the user manual. i will pay for postage and xerox.
> please respond by email only.
> 
> thanks
> 
> Aravind
> -- 
> ARAVIND SHENAI                           | Internet : shenai@atax.eng.uab.edu
> University of Alabama at Birmingham      |

Suggest you call or write Phillips Customer Service with model number etc. 
They will direct you to a local depot that has the original manual.  Here in 
Canada we frequently need the manuals in French or English and most 
companies keep extras.  Be prepared to pay a nominal amount for the new 
copy.

G. Randolph Bickerton              GRB@rbyte.proteus.qc.ca
P.O. Box 751                       TEL (514)744-5524
Pte-Claire Dorval, PQ  H9S 2L5     FAX (514)748-8109
From: camerons@NAD.3Com.COM (Cameron Spitzer)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Consumers Digest 'you renewed now pay'
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:59:19 GMT
Reply-To: cls@truffula.sj.ca.us

In article 540@news2.cis.umn.edu, konstan@saturn.cs.umn.edu (Joe Konstan) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.213453.4846@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount) writes:
>|> 	It seems like renewal by intimidation.  Anyone else having
>|> this problem w/CD or other magazines.
>
>Not this problem, but I did enter their sweepstakes (carefully checking the
>no box to indicate that I didn't want to subscribe) and whaddaya know, a bill
>for a subscription.  Real Consumerly attitude.


How could you expect a "consumer" magazine that takes corporate advertising
to be anything but a fraud?  _Consumer Reports_, _Bay Area Consumer Checkbook_,
and _Multinational Monitor_ are legit.  No ads.  Just say "no" to phony
consumer magazines.

Cameron

Newsgroups: misc.consumers,rec.autos.driving
From: whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: Insurance question
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 17:15:41 GMT

In article <nj21Hzg06c@atlantis.psu.edu> hvozda@wilbur.psu.edu (Eric Hvozda) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.160412.20687%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu> mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike S.) writes:
>>
>>If given a moving violation with no points, how would this be
>>treated?
>
>In Pennsylvania, this is not possible; all moving violations have points
>asscociated with them.
>
>Are there states out there that do not?

I went to court with a friend while visiting him in Atlanta, GA
this summer.  He had a speeing ticket reduced to 14mph over the
limit (it was for 18 over the limit).  The prosecutor told him 
that 14 or less over the limit is a no points violation in GA.
The court was the city of Roswell, a northern suburb of Atlanta.

Standard Disclaimer- Any opinions, etc. are mine and NOT my employer's.
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Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: trsnyder@mcs.drexel.edu (Bob Snyder)
Subject: Chain Eyecare centers
Organization: ASCI
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:37:01 GMT

Anyone have any opinions about the eyecare chains that are around, generally
in malls?  Lenscrafters, Pearl Express, etc?

I currently wear glasses and contact lens, but I think my eyes have gotten
worse since my last exam (about 3-4 years ago), and want to get them checked.
I'd rather not take time off during the day to do it, which makes these places
somewhat attractive.

Bob
From: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Sears Catalog Changes
Date: 26 Jan 1993 14:38:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Yesterday's news, both national and local (St. Louis) was filled with 
discussions of the massive changes at Sears -- 50K jobs cut, over a hundred
stores closed (including the one I shop at :-(), and the catalog 
business either eliminated or changed. That latter is what I am
asking about. I saw and heard conflicting reportage on this.

Some said that the catalog business is just plain gone entirely.
Others said the "big book" would be eliminated, but that specialty
catalogs for specific lines of merchandise would remain. Yet they
reported the big distribution cener (in Texas, I think) would close.
So from where would the special lines be serviced?

Can anyone post authoritative and specific information about this?
Will specialty catalogs and a catalog-order business of reduced size
remain? Or are those lines being sold off to some other parties?
Or will all the Sears catalog sales business disappear entirely? 
(If so, there is a void left there that I would think some other firms could
jump into.)

What will happen to Craftsman tools? I find their "lifetime" warranty to be
a joke if the store you need to go to to exchange the broken tool 
turns out to be gone! Anybody hear anything about such marketing ploys
as the Sears Craftsman Club? Will it continue or be elinminated?

If Sears gets out of the large-size catalog-order clothes business, does
anyone out there have pointers to other reasonably-priced firms to 
take over that role? King-Size is far too expensive. I haven't heard 
from Haband's large-size subsection in recent months.
-- 
Will Martin
wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil OR wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil
From: txn@sirius.larc.nasa.gov (Troung Nguyen)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Stores can't "detain" shoplifters
Date: 26 Jan 1993 20:07:49 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sirius.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1993Jan26.172947.29383@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, jung@base.bellcore.com (Eric Jung) writes:
|> Ah, one of my favorite subjects:  shoplifting!
|> 
|> 
|> In NJ, we most certainly had the right to use reasonable force to detain
|> a suspected shoplifter.  I was charged with assault 3 times, but never
|> successfully.  On the other hand, each time physical force escalated to
|> a scuffle, I successfully pressed charges for assault in addition to
|> shoplifting.  Bear in mind that these were mostly professional shop-
|> lifters stealing as much as $8000 at a clip.
|> 
   About ten years ago, my uncle and I shopped at a Safeway store in 
Fortworth Texas.  My uncle bought a case of baby milk and paid for it.
Since the case was already in a carton box, the cashier didn't put 
it in a bag.  When  he left the store, two men from the store followed 
and grab his arms. Another man grab his chest and punch his stomach 
and called his "thief" without giving my uncle a chance to explain.  
While it was happening, the cashier rushed out of the store and 
tried to stop men.  To make it short, the cashier simply forgot to mark 
the milk box as 'paid' with color tape!! The cashier and the men 
apologized. but needless to say, my uncle never went back to the store.  

Truong Nguyen
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Cordless phone makes funny noises
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:53:56 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

I've had my (Panasonic) cordless for a few months, and it just started
doing this a few days ago.  I hear sort of popping noises and the party
on the other end can hear them too.  Changing the channel doesn't always
help.  It seems to be better if I hold the phone away from my head a
little bit, but that's pretty inconvenient.  Could it be caused by
static electricity? (We have had some pretty cold weather lately). It
doesn't affect the quality of the sound but it's annoying.  
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,co.general
From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: Illegal telephone recording
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:31:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.055941.15330@colorado.edu> fedrick@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Kelvin W. Fedrick) writes:
>>As I understand these laws, the idea of the crime can not be initially
>>suggested by the government. If the individual had never considered
>>child prostitution, never seen an ad on the subject, saw the 
>>government's ad and became "sold" on the idea; that would be entrapment. 
>>If, however, the government could show that the same magazine had run
>>other, similar ads for child prostitution and/or that the idea had
>>already occured to the accused, then it wouldn't be entrapment.

> Maybe this is so in principle but not in practice. Remember Mayor Marion
> Barry being video taped doing drugs? The tapes clearly showed his female
> aquaintance repeatedly (suggesting?) trying to get him to take a puff.
> He finally did after initially refusing several times. He still got
> convicted. Perhaps the difference is that the woman was not a police
> officer so she wasn't considered 'employed' by the government.

That isn't a good example: Even if Barry, on tape, was reluctant to
accept _that_ offer, there was alot of other evidence against him
(for example from his police bodyguards). It was well established 
that the taped event wasn't his first experience with cocaine, so 
the police did not put that idea into his head...

                                               Frank Crary
                                               CU Boulder
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: How to fight telemarketers
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:39:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article B85@icon.rose.hp.com, bparrish@rose.hp.com (Bill Parrish) writes:
>
>The guy said they are the largest organization advocating rights for
>police officers... 

Excuse me?!?!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: rubin@watson.ibm.com (Bill Rubin)
Subject: Re: Prodigy stumbles -- reproduced with permission
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:02:10 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.17c by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: rubin@watson.ibm.com (Bill Rubin)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <aa.727724970@hela.iti.org> aa@iti.org (Aayush Asthana) writes:
>Just thought this would be of interest to this group; what follows
>is an article posted on: comp.org.eff.news 
>                    on: Wed, 23 Oct 1991 23:10:02 GMT
>                     by: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis) 
>who has permitted this : 
>                        PRODIGY STUMBLES AS A FORUM ... AGAIN
>                        By Mike Godwin
>to be posted with proper source attribution.

Wow, this is really great, year and a half old opinion being posted as new.  
Given that the Prodigy BBS's are much more open now than they were when any 
of the articles you just posted were written, what benefit was there to 
wasting the net's bandwidth with them?  

I repeat what has been said before.  If you don't like Prodigy, don't use 
it.  But don't waste everyone's time repeating the same thing over and over 
again.  

-- Bill rubin@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: wmack@en.ecn.purdue.edu (William J Mack)
Subject: TV antennas
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:33:45 GMT

There are TV antennas on the market that take advantage of your houses or
apartmants wiring by plugging into an outlet.  Does anyone know if these
give significantly better results than the conventional type.  I live
in an apartment and cant really use an ariel type and really do not want
to pay the outrageous local price for cable.  Any opinions or info would be
appreciated.  Please e-mail me as I do not get to this group often.  Thanks.


-- 
Bill Mack                        "If you expect me to be an expert on the
School of Electrical Engineering  fundamentals while I'm asking a fundamental
Purdue University                 question, fine.......I'll pretend to be one!"
From: camerons@NAD.3Com.COM (Cameron Spitzer)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Help!    (stolen wallet troubles)
Summary: don't sign your credit cards
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:42:42 GMT
Reply-To: cls@truffula.sj.ca.us

In article G17@vcd.hp.com, John Eaton writes:
>Most people worry that if their wallet is stolen that the thief will use
>their credit cards. Their biggest worry should be that the thief will use
>their idendity.

Nobody has ever told me a sound reason to sign a credit card.  I write
"Not valid without PHOTO ID" in the signature space.  It doesn't protect
the credit card much, since few cashiers look at the back of the card, but
it does make the card less usable by thieves who might try to borrow my
identity starting from my stolen cards.

Cameron

Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: esther@verdix.com (Esther Lumsdon)
Subject: I am not responsible for the debts of ...
Keywords: newspaper ad, why
Organization: Verdix Corp
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 23:40:06 GMT

In my hometown of Hampton, Virginia, the local newspaper often
contains ads stating
  Jay A. Smith is not responsible for the debts of Chris J. Smithers

Why do these exist?  Are these people fulfilling some legal requirement
to notify potential creditors that they have stopped being responsible
for the debts of a relative?  Are they combatting fraud?  It can't
relate to the stolen wallet issue, because there are 2 names here. Virginia
does not have community property, or common-law marriage.
-- 
-- Esther Lumsdon, not speaking for Verdix.   esther@verdix.com
Q: How many user support people does it take to change a light bulb?
A: We have an exact copy of the light bulb here and it seems to be
   working fine.  Can you tell me what kind of system you have?  
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: haywood@acheron.UUCP (Haywood Jablome)
Subject: Re: Prodigy - Sears and IBM, what a combo
Keywords: eat more moose
Reply-To: haywood@acheron.UUCP
Organization: Ciliophora Associates
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:40:49 GMT

In article <1k3va6INNn68@tamsun.tamu.edu>, rlopez@loanstar.tamu.edu (Robert Lopez) writes:
=> As both Sears and IBM seem to be in dire financial straits, how
=> does this bode for everyone's best friend or biggest nightmare PRODIGY?

Well - they had 1100 people, then one Monday they told 250 to collect their
checks and not to come back.  No warning as far as I can tell from the 
newspaper article.  Something about "reducing fixed costs" ...
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: btwomey@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (William J. Twomey)
Subject: Re: Rude drivers, was Re: Auto insurance laws in different state
Organization: Attack Tribble Training
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:23:34 GMT

In article <64060005@hpcss01.cup.hp.com> twv@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Terry Von Gease) writes:
>>/ hpcss01:misc.consumers / camerons@NAD.3Com.COM (Cameron L. Spitzer) /  6:30 pm  Jan 22, 1993 /
>>
>
>...standard laments of a poor but honest bicycle operator deleted
>
>>Cameron
>>Please help Usenet work: respect the Followups-To: line.
>
>Look sport, when you're out there pedaling your little heart out on your
>child's toy you are mostly in the way.  Not only are you in the way,
>you pay not one dime in support of the roadways you claim a right to
>use and you have no obligation to be financially responsible for any
>damage or mischief you and your toy might cause. 

Did you know that just about all roads are paid for out of general
funds?  That is supported by anyone that is a taxpayer.  The
exceptions are toll roads, upon which bikes are not allowed.  There
are public roads which are supported by tax payers not tolls, upon
which bikes are not allowed.  So Cameron the bicycling taxpayer (he
was posting from a .com site, so is probably employed and paying taxes,
eh?) is paying for *your* use of most highways.  So where do you get
off having this, I-own-the-roads-attitude?  You better thank him.

Your concern over bicyclists blocking the roads is justified,
but the biggest hazards on the roads are morons, in cars, who don't
know how to drive.  Bicyclists cause less problems than oblivious
drivers.  Why don't you complain about untrained and incapable 
drivers?

>But it's the part 
>about being in the way that you don't seem to understand.  No matter
>how fast you little legs can pump, unless you've got gravity working
>for you, relative to an automobile moving along at any sort of
>speed at all, you're standing still.  It's kinda like coming around
>a corner and finding a sawhorse sitting in the middle of the road.

Whaddya think about getting on the interstate and finding some
blue-haired Mrs. Magoo blocking the left lane?  Do someting about
her.

>I don't want to harm you but I want you to share my anxiety.  I want you
>to think your going to die. 

Hey chief, I expect to get damaged knowing that some moron thinks
he has special rights to the road because he pays for it. 
BTW, this is no joke, one should drive defensively.  Drive proactively
expecting others to hose you.

>If you want to finance and construct your
>own bicycle road system or even add realistic bike lanes to the existing
>road system, that's great.  But you have to pay for it yourselves.  

There you go again.  Look you supercilious twit, you don't own the
road.  Fight the real enemy, drunks and incompetent drivers (on
bikes, AND in cars and trucks).  When YOU construct and use only
your own road system, then you can complain.

>Until that time I want you to hang your toy on the garage wall.
Such charm.

>Terry
Bill

-- 
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908 615 4162
From: rlopez@loanstar.tamu.edu (Robert Lopez)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Prodigy - Sears and IBM, what a combo
Keywords: eat more moose
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:18:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: tamsun.1k3va6INNn68
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hosequarium South
NNTP-Posting-Host: loanstar.tamu.edu

If you work for IBM or Sears or Prodigy - no offense intended!!

As both Sears and IBM seem to be in dire financial straits, how
does this bode for everyone's best friend or biggest nightmare PRODIGY?

Just a-wonderin'

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The Hosequarium South     |       rlopez@cs.tamu.edu
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