From: xm1@cec1.wustl.edu (Xingdong Ma)
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in China - more Info
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:12:31 GMT

In article <CMM.0.90.2.714262816.jamesou@zygote.hsc.usc.edu> jamesou@ZYGOTE.HSC.USC.EDU (James Ou) writes:
>xm1@cec1.wustl.edu (Xingdong Ma) wrote:
>
>Lix agreed with you that it might be "Li4 Yi1 Ji1". Frankly, I
>pronounced them as "Li2 Yi4 Ji1". I wasn't 100% sure about its
>pronunciation but was too lazy to find out. :-)  Therefore, I
>wrote down the pronunciation of the characters. :-) Any way, to
>other netter who may have got confused, here are the three characters:
>
>"Li" is written with "Li4" (beautiful) on the left and "Yi4"
>(i.e., Er3 Duo1 radical) on the right. "Shi2" is "food" and "Qi2"
>is the "Qi2" of "Ri4 Qi2" (date).

    Maybe you and Lix are right, anyway, the morden pronounciation is
" Li4 ", and I'm not clear of it's ancient pronounciation. Thank both
of you for correcting me. The "Ji1" is not date, but only the left
hand side of "date", when it's read as "Qi2", it means "he" or "his"
or "its".
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>
>> The fact is in << Zuo3 Zhuan4 >> ( Xi3 Gong1 24th year )
>
>>(story deleted)
>>:" You2(guilt) er2 xiao4(follow) zhi1, zui4(crime) you4 shen4(more than) yan1.
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^
>I would translate this into "scolding", though.

    Thank you again.
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>
>Now, would you also like to translate the part of the article
>about "Shen1 Sheng1" (Shi4 Zi3, prince) and "Li2 Ji1" for us?
>(Don't tell me that "Li2" here is also pronounced as "Li4". :-) )

   I'll try to do the job in a couple of days, though it's little bit
more tough. 

   Is Shen1 Sheng1 Chong2 Er3's brother? While Xian4 Gong1 granted death
to both Shen1 Sheng1 and Chong2 Er3, Shen1 Sheng1 killed himself and 
Chong2 Er3 fled away. And when Xian4 Gong1 let his eunuch (tai4 jian4)
whose name was Pi4 to kill Chong2 Er3. There was the "Pu2 Cheng2 Zhi1
Yi4" ( Pu2 city's war). Chong2 Er3 hardly fled away, eunuch Pi1 cut off
one of Chong2 Er3's sleeves while Chong2 Er3 was climbing over the wall.

  Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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>
>>Wen2 Gong1 set fire
>>to the mountain to force Jie4 Zhi1 Tui1 to come out. But finally, he found
>>Jie4 Zhi1 Tui1 and his mother sat under a tree and died because of the fire.
>>(deleted)
>
>Sat under a tree? Are you sure? I thought they lied under the
>tree on the ground with the mother on the back of the son.
>Apparently Jie4 was trying to carry her mother on his back to
>escape from the brush fire when they died. Please correct me, if
>I am wrong. :-)

    I'm not sure,either . As I remember, Mr. Jie4's mother
was under Mr. Jie4's body when they died, because Jie4 didn't want
his mother's body be burned. I have the impression of reading this story
in the novel " Dong1 Zhou1 Lie4 Guo2 Zhi4 " ( or " Xin1 Dong1 Zhou1
Lie4 Guo2 Zhi4 "). But I don't remember clearly.

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>
>****Qi2 Huan2 Gong1 Yong4 Guan3 Zhong4 Er2 Ba4 Tian2 Xia4,
>    Yong4 Shu4 Diao1 Er2 Chong2 Liu2.
>(When Duke QiHuan used GuanZhong to run his country, his country
>become the world super-power. When Duke QiHuan used ShuDiao to
>run his country, he died miserably with worms growing on his
>remains.)
>

    There are altogether three of them, Yi4 Ya2 , Shu4 Diao1 and 
I forgot the other's name.  Guan3 Zhong4 told Qi2 Huan2 Gong1 to 
keep away from those three when Guan3 was on his deathbed, but 
Huan2 Gong1 didn't take Guan3's words.