HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: oler@rho.uleth.CA (Cary Oler)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Daily Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for 26 December
Date: 27 Dec 92 10:14:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: rho.9212271014.AA07266
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
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!!BEGIN!! (1.0) S.T.D. Solar Geophysical Data Broadcast for DAY 361, 12/26/92
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  PCA-MAX= +0.1DB @ 2250UT     PCA-MIN= -0.5DB @ 1145UT    PCA-AVG= -0.0DB
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From: terry@red.uucp (Terrence R. Redding)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: writing out -- --- .-. ... . in order to pass your ex
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:54:18 -0500
Reply-To: terry%red@lawton.lonestar.org
Organization: R & R Advantage.  Education and Marketing.  SDL spoken here!
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

In <1992Dec20.155429.1005@wam.umd.edu>, Scott Richard Rosenfeld writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.20549.6534@ms.uky.edu> miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) writes:
>>at a recent W5YI VEC testing, a female wrote down all .'s and -'s and
>>was allowed to do so. she got her general (while 4 others struggled).
>>i was going to use this "cheat" method myself. is it legal or not?
>>i'm confused.
>>
>
>I myself am a W5YI and Laurel VEC volunteer examiner, and I have given probably
>1000 code tests over the past 6 years.  This is a very gray area, although 
>the general belief here:
>
>One must COPY the code.  I used to think that writing down dots and dashes
>was OK.  After some discussion, I realized that this is not actually "Compre-
>hension."  People don't copy like this on the air, nor is it feasible.  
>Writing down dots & dashes I can probably do 40 wpm, but only later can I
>go back and figure it out...
>
>It's a matter or interpretation, I say "NO."
>
>Scott NF3I
>
You say no?  I thought it was multiple choice and as long as the individual 
did their own work the method of getting the correct response was mute.

Is W5YI issuing different instructions?
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From: price@nosc.mil (James N. Price)
Subject: Re: P5
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 21:22:36 GMT

It's not usually advantageous to be a W6 DXer, but the P5
operation has clearly favored W. Coast.  And it's been pretty
easy.  I've worked P5RS7 on 15 and 20 SSB.  In fact last night
(Tuesday local), he was on 14195 listening on 14200 and there
couldn't have been more than 10 stations in the pile.  It's really
whittled down fast.  If the original poster is on the W.Coast
(AA7FL?), keep trying as suggested.  I can see how the E.Coast
guys are having trouble--and the propagation hasn't been all that
great.  But he was working 4s, 5s, and 0s last night.

I'm waiting for him to move to CW--much more enjoyable!

73/Merry Xmas to all--Jim, K6ZH
From: dale@a2605ux1.msr.hp.com (Dale Hammer)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:22:36 GMT
Subject: Contest/QSO Simulator for IBM PC?
Organization: HP Indianapolis, IN (T 844-4100)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc



I am looking for a "contest simulator" for the IBM PC.  I have used a simulator
that was available for the Commadore 64 that simulated a front panel of an
amateur radio transceiver and would allow you to be anywhere in the world.
A keyer could be plugged into the unit various calls would come back to you
depending on the time of day you set it up for and the band.  Anyone know of
such a product for the PC?

Regards,

Dale Hammer K9NN
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From: Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 08:13:25 GMT

If one wants a private system, why not license for a different band?  
Something along the lines of GMRS, which is intended for private
communications.  I can much more easily understand a closed system in
which they want to keep traffic down by charging to keep high quality
equipment on the air (links, etc) than an elitist "PRIVATE!" system.
I don't think there's room for such things on the ham bands.  Is it safe
to assume that if someone wanted to put up an open repeater in an area
with loads of private systems and none of the spectrum was left, that
the frequency coordinator would yank the privlidges of the private
owner?

If not, since 1.2GHz isn't used here, maybe I should put a repeater on every
possible split, make them all private, and be a true elitist.  :-(

-ks

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From: harp@bnr.ca (Alan Harp)
Subject: Re: CQ WW CW QSL routes??????
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:53:07 GMT

In article <milewski-231292083902@fp2-st-affairs-3.uoregon.edu> milewski@oregon.uoregon.edu (Steve Milewski) writes:
>I've seen a previous query about this topic here before but never saw a
>response.

>Is there a list available on this net of the QSL routes for the CQWW CW
>contest?

>Thanks,
>Steve/AA7FL

>milewski@oregon.uoregon.edu
Our local DX Packet Cluster has a QSL manager data base.  It is supported
by sofware from W6GO.  It can be updated by people using the cluster.
In fact updates are fed back to W6GO.  This data is not just for the
contest but for any current DX activity.

I suggest getting on Packet Radio and checking into your local cluster.
If you aren't on packet ask someone who is to check for managers you
need.

Anyway I think DX Packet Clusters are the best application for packet
radio today.  Merry XMAS & Happy New Year .  

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* Alan Harp K4PB     *     Bell-Northern Research      *   CW FOREVER      *
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From: grund@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.edu (Victor Grund)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Online Repeater Directory?
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:39:14
Organization: International Business Machines, Cleveland, Ohio, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: calypso.som.cwru.edu
In-reply-to: johnr@mik.uky.edu's message of Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:06:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.170657.16615@ms.uky.edu> johnr@mik.uky.edu (John S. Roberts, Jr.) writes:

   Since a number of people have problems with the way that the ARRL
   does things in their book.  What if I scanned the current repeaters
   in and then poll usenet and also packet for updates to the list.

   Do people out there care enough to send me the updates?  I wouldn't
   have the benefit of a nice small directory, but the information
   would be acurate and up-to-date.

I for one would enjoy this.  A mail server could be setup to search by
city, county, or whatever.  Being a frequent traveler, I'd find it
extremely helpful to be able to receive a up-to-date list of repeaters
in my destination area electronically.  

Victor
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From: eckman@eos1.larc.nasa.gov (Richard Eckman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Y24HO 'QSL Routes' - Opinions sought
Date: 23 Dec 1992 04:00:16 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: eos1.larc.nasa.gov

  Is anyone familar with the publication 'QSL Routes' by Y24HO?
I recently received an advertisment for it in a recent QSL
mailing from, dare I say, F6FNU.  How does this book compare
with the 'GO List'?  Is there significantly more information
here as compared to other sources?  Have any stateside hams 
ordered this direct
from the address in Berlin?  The ad seems to imply that personal
checks in US funds are accepted.  Is this really the case?
Any comments on the book would be appreciated.

Rich Eckman  KO4MR
NASA Langley
eckman@dobson.larc.nasa.gov
From: kb7uv@panix.com (Andy Funk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 14 Jan meeting in Northern NJ
Summary: RATS meeting topic is contesting & computers & cold
Keywords: RATS VHF Packet Contesting
Date: 2 Jan 93 01:19:21 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

Meeting Topic:  Contesting, Computers, and Cold!

The January meeting of the Radio Amateur Telecommunications Society
(RATS) will feature an exciting program on Contesting. Included will be
discussion of the club's recent successful outings (see the N2DSY
limited multi-op score in the June VHF QSO Party in January QST, p. 110)
and our plans for the January event on the 23rd -- brrrr!.  (Mark your
calendar: operators are needed!)  Leading the program will be Jerry,
NO2T, and Gordon, N2DSY.

We'll also take some time to discuss our direction and goals for 1993.

Please join us for this program on Thursday evening the 14th of January.
Where?  At the Wendy's restaraunt on Route 46 West in Little Falls, NJ.
Members begin to arrive by 6:30 PM and the program beginins at 7:45 PM.
Informal talk-in is on 145.19 MHz (-600), K2AQG/R in Montclair, NJ.

Happy New Year!

73, Andy
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From: jayk@fc.hp.com (Jay Kesterson X4027)
Subject: Re: P5
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:20:11 GMT
Reply-To: jayk@fc.hp.com
Organization: -.-. --.-  - . ... -
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL6]

Steve Milewski (milewski@oregon.uoregon.edu) wrote:
: So far I've had no luck with Romeo's operation from P5 but DO have P51AA.
: Does anyone have any more information about the legitimacy of this
: operation? Also, is there a published address for the manager HA5BBE, if
: this IS a good operation?
: 
: Thanks, 
: Steve/AA7FL

Most think that P51AA is a slim. Have heard many reports from JAs that
he peaked up at the wrong beam heading. Even if he is real his 
documentation will have to be perfect for the DXCC desk to approve the
operation. It would be a good idea to get a QSO with P5RS7 (will their
documentation be good enough?). P5RS7 was quite workable here last
night around 0000z on 15 CW. Rumor says they will be on till the first
of the year. Good luck.

73, Jay K0GU               jayk@fc.hp.com

P.S. I usually never send for the card till I hear the operation has
been approved by the DXCC desk.
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 72?
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:01:26 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

I said:

  > I thought I new all the stange abbreviations but one still puzzles me:
  > 72. I've had a few people append 72 (often with 73, like 72/73) at the
  > end of notes. Most (all?) of these people are QRPers.
  >
  > Can anyone tell me what this means and how it was derived?

Sherman Lovell replied:

	Bet you get lots of mail on this one.  Yeah, 72 seems to have caught on
o\010 in the QRP community.  As I recall it became "official" about a year ago
when the QRP ARCI newsletter publiched it as the new thing.
	Kinda cute, huh?  I only use it w/ fellow QRPers myself as a kind of
inside joke/secret handshake.
72,
sherm, wy7f/qrp

And Bill Kelsey said:

Kevin - 72 is the QRPers substitute for 73..... means "best of QRPing" or
something close to that. G3RJV and co came up with it about a year ago.
73 - Bill - N8ET  ex-G5CMX in Penn, Bucks 1978-83

And George_Noyes said:

I believe it is just a "low power version" of 73's.  I don't know
who coined it, but I'd imagine one of the other QRP'rs might know.
Probably originated by the QRP ARCIs looooooooooooooonnnnnnnnng time
ago. hihi :-) (If I recall 72 really did have a totally different
meaning in the old spark days, but it has fallen to disuse.  Most of
the conventional numbers such as 73's, 88's were part of a larger
list of messages at one time, no longer used.  Obviously, 72's is a
bastardization and not a hold out of the original list.
72's sometimes de George W1XE/QRP
73's sometimes de George W1XE

Thanks to all who replied

72/73 Kevin N7WIM
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Tandy Bashing
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:15:02 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Paul Opitz, N5TPQ says about complain to Rat Shack:

In you letter, be specific about:
The catalog number of the product you are writing about;
The store number (if you know) or the complete address of
    the store you are writing about;
and, always include your complete address in your letterhead...
many times I have received pre-opened letters that have been
separated from the envelope--and no address in the letter.

I say:

Why not just give them the last four digits of their telephone number 
and let them figure it out :-)

73 Kevin N7WIM
From: bourque@sceng.UB.COM (Bourque_David)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: on-line repeater directory
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:57:54 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Rich NM1D writes in response to my posting.

> I thought that others might be interested in using this data on-line
>(via packet).  My DOSGATE system (remember Dave, this is a DOSGATE system,
>not a "BBS") is accessable from a fairly wide area (I know that there are
>regular users of the system from New York to Maine and sometimes even Canada).
>So I am providing access information to the net....

Stuff deleted.....
Sorry Rich, I didn't forget.  Just thought my message was long enough
without explaining your wonderful system.
 
>  Many thanks to Dave for supplying the most up-to-date repeater data that
>I have ever come across.

>   Rich

Your welcome.  Just keep sending me some updates and the list will stay
up-to-date.

For those that are really interested.  I have NY as well.  It is treaded
as a seperate file and has not been updated.  It is identical to the
ARRL directory (most recent version).  So NYers, how about some updates?
BTW, the NY file is larger than the New England file.

Dave WB1FLD bourque@sceng.ub.com

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jangus@skyld.tele.com (Jeffrey D. Angus)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Teletype type face wanted
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:23:23 GMT
Organization: Grendel's Lair


In article <kFV4VB2w165w@n3eop.pgh.pa.us> paul@n3eop.pgh.pa.us writes:
  > drawson@Tymnet.com (Dick Rawson) writes:
  > > Does anyone know of an available typeface that looks like a Model 15
  > 
  > The hard part would be getting the random vertical offset... <G>

  Don't forget the puddle of 30 weight and the pile of chaff on the table.

netcom!bongo!jangus@skyld.tele.com < the winter solstice is here >
US Mail:  PO Box  4425  Carson, CA  90749-4425    1 (310) 324-6080
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From: Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:03:06 GMT

I'm admittedly the new guy on the block, but I'm still trying to figure out
how it could cost "thousands" of dollars a year to keep a repeater on
the air.  If one went full tilt with a repeater, controller, duplexors
and antennas, I can't see how it could get much above $5 or $6k total,
and that's with all new equipment.  Does your repeater get hit by
lightening and completely destroyed every year, necessitating its total
replacement, or am I missing something?

$15 a month for the phone bill, and probably not much more for the power
bill (probably less...I'm not sure how much current these things draw).
Combine this with presumably at least a dozen paying members, and $15 a
month is $2160 per year.  Ouch.  Most of the local clubs around here charge
around $25 a year, and the university charges the same and provides access
to their shack (with HF gear, a packet station, etc) for its users.

I once checked into using a community repeater (business band shared,
with a phone patch) and it was $45 a month.  This is a FOR-PROFIT
company.  Hummmm...

-ks

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From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: writing out -- --- .-. ... . in order to pass your exam
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:12:54 GMT
Organization: Columbia University

hyx1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes:

>miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) writes:
>>at a recent W5YI VEC testing, a female wrote down all .'s and -'s and
>>was allowed to do so. she got her general (while 4 others struggled).
>>i was going to use this "cheat" method myself. is it legal or not?
>>i'm confused.
>
>After I passed the general, the VE noticed that I wrote the .'s and -'s
>for a couple of pro-signs and numbers.  Then all 3 VE's got together to 
>discuss the matter for nearly 10 minutes before deciding to pass me.
>They said something like:  "We'll let you go this time.  But we'll have 
>to fail you next time if you write down any dits and dahs."
>They are ARRL.

Those ARRL examiners were WRONG!  Other VEC's such as W5YI may have
differing rules, but the current (Sixth) edition of the ARRL VE Manual
states clearly, on page 57, that this is NOT SO!  Either those VE's
were "instant accreditation" VE's from another VEC with different
rules and never cracked their books, or they have forgotten what they
read in their manuals!

	Within a one-minute of solid copy review, a few dot/dash
	characters, perhaps up to 10 within a one-minute string,
	can be accepted/translated by the candidate and considered
	for grading.  More than 10 characters, however, is excessive
	(in our opinion) and should not be accepted within a one-minute
	review.

	For the 10-question comprehensive[sic] exam, while an all dots and
	dashes transcription should be rejected, a mix of transcription
	and translation could be accepted--but those examinees should be
	given no more time to complete the 10-question review than the
	majority of the other applicants required to do the same within
	a given timeframe (of course, not applying to the handicapped
	or disabled who require accommodated testing).

Note that it uses a fixed number of characters per minute copied as
dots and dashes as its standard.  This implies that up to TWO-FIFTHS
of a Novice exam could be copied as dots and dashes.  According to the
manual, then, up to FORTY PERCENT (10/25) of a Novice exam may be
copied as dots and dashes, decreasing to fifteen percent (10/65) of a
General exam and ten percent (10/100) of an Extra exam.  And that's a
strict interpretation; these paragraphs could also be interpreted more
liberally, to the effect that if an exam is transcribed as all dots
and dashes except for a one-minute solid copy section containing up to
10 dot/dash characters, it is accepted!  The most liberal possible
interpretation would allow copying only one character out of the test
as a character, transcribing the rest as dots and dashes, as long as
the examinee passed the 10-question comprehension exam.  The intent of
these paragraphs, though, seems to be that copying up to 10 characters
per minute as dots and dashes is OK.

VE's should not be in the business of arbitrarily denying licenses to
people against the policies of their VEC.
	-Steve, WB3I (ARRL VE certification pending)
From: ez006683@othello.ucdavis.edu (Daniel D. Todd)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: sattelie info. ???
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:09:27 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis


 I am interested in listening to and hopefully someday working sats.  I only 
a dual band HT (ft-470) and am therefore only interested in FM birds. I have
a tracking program and even a 50 watt amp.  I have no fear of building a med.
sized yagi if required but my apt mgr. would prefer I built none. My question
are which are the best birds to try first, what kind of software do I need
to allow my TNC-2 to decode telemetry and/or work packet on the sats, and 
is there a single piece of literature that includesmost or all the modes
and schedules? 

	Tnx and 73's
	de KC6UUD
	e-mail ddtodd@ucdavis.edu

From: Claton.Cadmus@f100.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Claton Cadmus)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Antenna Dilema & gap?
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:04:42 -0600

In a message from;
GLB>From: labelle@hfglobe.intel.com (George La Belle)
GLB>Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc GLB>Organization: Intel
Corporation

George WB6YZZ asks;

GLB>        I'm trying to improve my antenna system on the HF bands.

GLB>        Right now I have an inverted V, of sorts, that's 25' at the apex an
GLB>        about 60 feet long fed by open wire line and tuned with an old
GLB>        Johnson balanced ant. tuner. Unfortunately I really want to work
GLB>        600 miles south on 40 but my lot goes N-S (and so does the V).
GLB>        I don't want to put op a typical trap dipole cause I know they have
GLB>        ground losses. So, to improve I'm considering 2 options.

Actually, the Inverted V is about your best choice, presently you have a
apex angle of no better than 130 degrees.  If you could get the apex up
another 20 feet you would see much improvement.  This would give you
about a 90 degree apex angle, at this angle the Inverted V Antenna
becomes almost omni-directional and responsive to vertical as well as
horizontal polarization.

Hope this Helps,

Claton Cadmus,  KA0GKC

Packet:         KA0GKC @ WB0GDB.MN.USA.NA
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