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From: Doug.Plaza@f413.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Plaza)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: MOTOROLA MT1000
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 21:14:00 -0800

TH> > use them with our Saber portables.  Do you have to remove the
TH> > antenna to
TH> > put on the speaker mike on the MT1000? - Frank
TH> >

TH>No you don't, the adaptor has a cut out area that goes around the
antenna.

TH>Anyone out have problems with the Motorola speaker mics for the
MT1000's?
TH>Anyone have any other mics that work with these radios? I have seen
some
TH>different looking Motorola mics on TV does anyone know the model
numbers?

TH>Thanks.............


Todd,
    My department uses the MT1000 and yes we have had a problem with
the
speaker mics.  A friend of mine who is a Motorola dealer and also does
our department's service work, has told me that he has had numerous
problems with these mics.  Apparently he delivered a whole order of
these mics to one department and then was told to return the mics to
the
factory because there were a group of mics which are faulty.  I know
that one of the local police departments has been using them and I have
not heard of any complaints so it may just be a problem with a certain
production run and not the mics in general.  As far as I know Motorola
offers a couple of different mics for the MT1000; a regular speaker
mic,
a speaker mic with an antenna, and a headset type with voice activated
transmit.  Our department had some modified mics which allowed us to
plug in our cardiac monitor to transmit ECG.  We now just use an
adapter
which scews on in place of the speaker mic.  We have had a few problems
with this too so part of the problem with both units might be in the
contact / pin conection used in both pieces; you have to make sure the
contacts are continually cleaned.  I would recomend that if you are
going to use any external adapter or mic with the MT1000 in a wet
environment, you should try and find some way to seal the connection or
at least keep it protected.  Hope this helps!
                                     Doug Plaza MICP NJ
  SLMR 2.1a  All wiyht.  Rho sritched mg kegtops awound?


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From: John.Linko@f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (John Linko)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Canadian Air-Ambulances
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 05:32:21 -0800

If the pilot does not have a visual reference to the ground, and the 
helicopter is not equipped for IFR, then the helicopter cannot legally 
attempt a landing, regardless of the condition of the "altimeter".

They could have been referring to a RADAR altimeter, which is a 
device that can measure altitude by bouncing a radar beam off of the 
ground as opposed to using barometric pressure to calculate altitude.

In any case, I think the gist of your post was to show the ignorance of

the CBC report, or at least the sloppy reporting. Most medical 
helicopters in the US are certified for two-pilot IFR, and a flight plan

must be filed in advance, unless an emergency condition exists. If the 
helicopter encountered IMC at the destination airport, they would either

have had to land at the closest airport or other area where VFR existed

and await a ground rendezvous with the patient. Otherwise, the ship 
would have had to return home, and either ground transportation arranged

or have another aircraft (a fixed-wing airplane, in this case) capable 
of making an IFR approach into the airport in question do the
transport.

I honeymooned in Toronto in 1988, and got to see the Ontario Ministry of

Health's comm center, as well as "Bandage One", their old BK-117, which

exploded in 1989. Last I heard the OMH was flying Sikorshy S-76 
aircraft. Anyone know what they're flying now, EH? JL


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From: Rick.Wilson@f2112.n327.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Dutchess County NY dispat
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 09:07:14 -0800

dc> RW>Can you, or anyone else, fill me in on the different
classifications of
dc> EMT?
dc> RW>I've seen D and P.

dc>         Sure I can. The ones that I know about are B, I, D &
dc> P.

Thankee, sir!  Appreciate it!  Now I can 'cipher all these codes! :)

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From: Warren.Chou@f15.n229.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Chou)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Dormitory fires
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 03:22:11 -0800

Not being a firefighter, I may be missing the obvious, but is there any
particular reason why there aren't Ub
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From: Michael.Smith@f102.n2604.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Smith)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Physical Agility Test
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 15:43:00 -0800

Hi.

I plan on submitting an application for and taking the test at
Belleville, IL sometime this summer.

One of the tests that I have to pass is a physical agility test.  Can
anyone elaborate on what that might entail?

Regards,
FF Michael Smith
Oakland (NJ) Vol FD
Company 2, "The Hill"

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From: Todd.Hockert@f6.n288.z1.fidonet.org (Todd Hockert)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: MOTOROLA MT1000
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 20:49:44 -0800

 > use them with our Saber portables.  Do you have to remove the 
 > antenna to
 > put on the speaker mike on the MT1000? - Frank
 > 

No you don't, the adaptor has a cut out area that goes around the
antenna.
 
Anyone out have problems with the Motorola speaker mics for the
MT1000's? Anyone have any other mics that work with these radios? I have
seen some different looking Motorola mics on TV does anyone know the
model numbers?
 
Thanks.............


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From: Rick.Wilson@f2112.n327.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: BECOMING AN EMT...
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 09:09:16 -0800

dc>         Personally, I don't call that type of attitude
dc> fearful, I call
dc>         it smart. We as Emergency Service Workers do exactly
dc> the same as
dc>         you do. We make sure the person is Ok, AND avoid
dc> contact with
dc>         ANY of their body fluids. That is why we wear
dc> gloves, goggles &
dc>         gowns. To me that fear is healthy, It may keep you
dc> from
dc>         contracting some disease.

If you pay attention to the circumstances and use protection, the risks
will be minimal, from what I can tell....

dc>         Merry Christmas & Good Luck with your dreams. Don't
dc> give them up
dc>         for nothin'!

Merry belated Xmas to you, too!  I'm going to do some checking into EMT
here in CT.

Thanks for the reply, Darrin!

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From: Michael.Seneco@f536.n141.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Seneco)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: RE: Emt-m with command?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:15:00 -0800

In Connecticut, EMT-M is an EMT who has taken a regional specific class
on the
 use of MAST.

A Paramedic's official designation is EMT-P

Michael Seneco, EMT-A

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From: Rick.Wilson@f2112.n327.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: General chit-chat
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 09:10:17 -0800

ab> rw>Whats the law in CT say about volenteers breaking the speeding
laws.
ab>
ab>     Volenteers must obey all traffic laws including
ab> speeding.
ab> But lets say this,  If it was your house on fire or someone
ab> in your family sick or deathly ill would you complain...

I wasn't complaining.  Was just wondering.  I wouldn't hold 'em back if
my place was burning down!  Not in the LEAST! :)

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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Sat, 9 Jan 1993 13:19:30 EST
From:         Howard Berkis - CC28 <CC28@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      Info Re: ETOH

Being in a volunteer ambulance corps the services a not so affluent
area we encounter many intoxicated patients, usually beer, rum or
vodka, most of these people are epileptic.

I know phenabarb, and other Rx increase a persons tolerance to
alcohol (ETOH), but what are the affects of ETOH on the epileptic,
who is and is not compleint with his/her Rx

And what is the best Treatment, other then transport...

If responding, keep in mind I run with a bls unit.

thanx in advance

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Howard Berkis, EMT
Spring Hill VAC
PO Box 6
Spring Valley, NY 10977
CC28@Iona on BitNet...Internet Coming Soon
PS  Just Remember...No Matter Where You Go...There You Are???
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: Joe.Nicholson@f123.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Nicholson)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Arizona Frequencies
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 11:12:00 -0800

Have a local user here in SoCal who would like a list of Arizona
fire, DPS, and BIA frequencies.  If anyone has such a list, would
you be please either post them, or send netmail to 1:202/123?

Thanks in advance for any help you offer this fellow.


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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: joelp@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joel.peshkin)
Subject: Re: Enough!!!!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:56:15 GMT

For anyone using the rn newsreader..... here is my Killfile

THRU 9166
/: *Disaster Research */:j
/: *PATCHES/:j
/George.Vaisey/h:j
/Todd.Hockert/h:j
/Paul.Vallone/h:j

I guess I won't be seeing any more posting from those guys (and any others
that post personal messages regularly.

-Joel Peshkin, EMT-P
jdp@aloft.att.com

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:05:00 -0800
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You may want to try contacting Warsinsky Decorators, University Av, Star
City,
 WV. Ph # (304) 598-3092. They used to do ceramic mugs, & made a nice
design
 for several different businesses in my area.

Mark Caravasos, Morgantown FD, Morgantown, WV


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From: Paul.Vallone@f218.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Scan-B
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 14:44:34 -0800

Hi George:
 GV> Paul,
 GV>         I was woundering if you put SCAN-B.ZIP 
 GV> online for others to d/l??  If so could you tell me 
 GV> what type of response it has gotten i.e. how many 
 GV> d/l.  Also the author needs another beta tester and 
 GV> was woundering if YOU would like to be a future 
 GV> Beta tester for Scan-B.  If so let me know and I 
 GV> will let him know!!  Also you can NOW Filefreq 
 GV> SCB182.ZIP from Paradise BBs 1:2613/330 and get the 
 GV> NEWEST version of scan-b. Thanks
Yah the file is online,for other users to D/L it...
  
Later
  
Paul..

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From: Don.Trout@f316.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Don Trout)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: INFO. ON DIVE TEAM
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 20:30:02 -0800

To All Fire Departments & EMS Personnel,
Any organization that has a Underwater Search & Recovery Team
please contact myself or Tom Barry at the Keasbey Fire Dept.
We are interested in starting up a dive team and am looking for
information.
Contact us at FD 1-908-738-4343
Or the Cop Shop BBS sysop.


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From: Bob.Womack@f1.n3638.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Womack)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Computer Software
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 17:39:13 -0800

    I am looking for Ambulance Software to interface with the CHIEFS
Program marketed by H.T.E.  We are getting ready to go on-line with
CHIEFS and will have to do double entry for ambulance billing until we
find a suitable program.  I would appreciate any input anyone might
have on the above.  You may post to me here or write to :
    Captain Bob Womack
    Royal Palm Beach Fire Department
    1050 Royal Palm Beach Blvd.
    Royal Palm Beach, Florida  33411
                        Thanks!!!!!!!


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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: denning@chirpa.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Subject: Looking for Frequencies with PL Tones
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:49:20 GMT



I am working on compiling an extensive up-to-date verified ONLY! database
of frequencies with PL Tones (or lack there of if that be the case).

You list will get mine (whice is quite thick now).

You can either mail them to me thru the E-NET or US Postal Service


Don Denning
P.O. Box 268 
Harvard, MA 01451-0258
From: Steve.Sharp@f207.n714.z3.fidonet.org (Steve Sharp)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: TV Trivia
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:58:03 -0800

RW> Yeah, I've seen scenes from Oz and New Zealand.  I think 
RW> a couple from Oz were about floods...people trapped in 
RW> them. 


We've had a wet winter, now that it's summer it's still wet, just what
we  
need, the rain'll stop, the ground fuel will cure, and we'll be cashing
 
bushfires come February!
 
RW> 
RW> ss> At least they got Shatner to do a new clip, he originally
RW> ss> said "In Australia, do not dial 911, use Zero Zero Zero
RW> ss> (000), but we don't use the word Zero that much, so take 2
RW> ss> now has him saying dial Oh Oh Oh (Triple Oh is the
RW> ss> vernacular).
RW> 
RW> Heh heh heh....leave it to Captain Kirk to 
RW> screw THAT up! :)

Beam me up Scotty, there's no intelligent life here!

RW> 
RW> Take care, and happy holidays!

You too Rick, best of the season to you and your loved ones!

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From: Kevin.Agard@f94.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Agard)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Scanner's and a legal que
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 07:39:00 -0800

To: Blue-Knight@bknight.jpr.com (Yury German)


YG>>        Actually its illegal to listen to portable phone
conversation
YG>>(cellular phone) not only in NY state but all over the U.S.A. Since
that
YG>>is considering infrigement of privacy. Besides if I find someone
listening
YG>>to me on the phone I will be pretty upset.


Then you had better stick to "hardwire" phones because legal or not,
people do it!

KMA

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From: Blake.Bowers@f33.n116.z1.fidonet.org (Blake Bowers)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: scanner's and a legal
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 12:41:43 -0800

 -=> Quoting Bob Smallwood to Blake Bowers <=-

 BB> According to the FCC, it is illegal also to listen to cellular,
voice
 BS> Thanks for the additional info.. OBTW, do you know which Parts
contain
 BS> these  restrictions now? Is it Part 1? And is the ECPA available
online
It is available on your board!  (as soon as I upload it tonite... (g)

... Don't hit me, Mr. Moderator... I'll go back on topic... I swear!
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I saw an interesting story on last night's CBC News out of Toronto
about an incident with Canada's air ambulance system.  Seems an
individual had a snowmobile accident in a northern part of Canada
and needed to be air-evaced from the hospital he was in down to
Thunder Bay.  Story goes that a helicopter made the trek up to his
location (after 3 hours), circled the airport, and then returned
to its home base (no mention of why.)  A few hours later a plane
did successfully make the trip and then the story dwells on the
complaints that the patient sat unattended to for hours in the
hospital so they had to amputate his leg.

Skipping the details about that, we then get to the end of the
story and to the part where the newcaster asks the reporter
questions at the end of the tape (are we supposed to think these
are impromptu?)  Anyways the question is why the helicopter did
not land... "The problem is" that pilots have the final say on
whether or not to land due to weather conditions (I fail to see
the problem?)  It seems that helicopters in Canada "do not have
altimeters, devices which tell the pilot how high he is off
of the ground" and would enable the helicopter to "land on runways
even if weather conditions prevented the pilot from seeing the
ground."  Wow.  Those are some altimeters...

Rob
--
Robert P. Dale                          <>      rdale@attserv.atms.purdue.edu
University of Toledo                    <>      74010.302@compuserve.com
Meteorology/Emergency Services          <>      N8GSK@K9IU.IN.USA.NOAM
From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Game??
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 08:39:00 -0800

GV> Paul,
GV>         I have just received a Fire Grounds Commmand simulater.  If
you
GV> are interested let me know and I'll get it to you. GREAT GAME>
Sure! Send it over!! :)

Later

Paul..  
 
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From: v054mzxp@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Looking for BLS or ALS protocols
Keywords: protocols
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:19:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


   I'm a New York state certified paramedic who works for a paid ambulance
in the city of Buffalo and volunteer for a college based campus ambulance.  I'm
working with one of my medical directors doing prehospital research.  We are are
in the early stages, currently compiling a list of research topics.  If anyone 
can mail me copies of either their local BLS and/or ALS protocols, We would 
appreciate it.  We're planning on using them as a guideline for ways to improve 
our protocols.  I will be going to the EMS Today conference in Arizona in March,
which has prehospital research as a major focus.  If anyone has any other ideas,
we would welcome them.

 You can email to this account or use :   K. Scott Harvey
                                          PO Box  1152
                                          Buffalo, NY 14215-6152

Thanks for your time.

----------
K.S. Harvey AS, BA, EMT/P
  CPR   instructor
  PHTLS instructor
From: George.Vaisey@f330.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (George Vaisey)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Game??
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 15:16:00 -0800

Paul,
        I have just received a Fire Grounds Commmand simulater.  If you
are interested let me know and I'll get it to you. GREAT GAME>



                George

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dc> RW>Can you, or anyone else, fill me in on the different
classifications of
dc> EMT?
dc> RW>I've seen D and P.

dc>         Sure I can. The ones that I know about are B, I, D &
dc> P.

Thankee, sir!  Appreciate it!  Now I can 'cipher all these codes! :)

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In a message on <Jan 04 21:29>, Thomas Pellowski of 1:275/69 writes:

 TP> Well, it may help a littel if you knew her name...Regina Franchi.
 TP>
 TP>                                         T. Pellowski

This is a few months old.  Hope it helps somewhat.


I just got it a couple of days ago (10-13-92).  It is as follows:
AMSAN Regina M. Franchi
VFA 125 Framp
NAS LeMoore
LeMoore, California 93426
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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:47:25 GMT
From:         monty@VNET.IBM.COM
Subject:      Abuse (?) of the mailing list.

I know there has been a lot of talk/flames about the traffic here (&
yes I'm adding to it) but now I'm getting copies of articles sent back to
me 'cos someones mailbox is full. As it is, approx 70% of this traffic
has very little to do with what I'd call emergencies. I'm afraid to leave
the list as there is (occasionally?) some interesting topics, as it is
I've set my account to nomail as I can't afford to come back Monday to
1000's of returned messages.

Sorry for my winge, but why is this list so different from the other
half a dozen I follow? I hate to be discriminatory but is it fidonet?

                     From
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From: Joel.Ostmoe@f4014.n282.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Ostmoe)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: F.I.R.E. Network
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 01:40:02 -0800

   Hi Chuck,
        I thought I had recently read somewhere that you or someone
  named Jon Bixler is trying or has started a fire related file
distribution network. I would be interested in information on this if
at
all possible.

  Thanks,

  Joel Ostmoe,
  Sysop, The BACKDRAFT BBS!


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From: Joseph.Zalkin@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Joseph Zalkin)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Software (fire, ems, medi
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:18:00 GMT

I am working on a presentation on current commercial and share ware for
emergency services. I would like to hear from folks as to what they use
for education, management, scheduling, etc.

There has been so many programs adapted for emergency services I think
a
general review is in order.

Your comments are appreciated.
Joseph Zalkin, Training Officer
Wake County Emergency Medical Services
Raleigh, North Carolina

P.S. For those who have assisted with the ambulance call report thanks
the State meetings are still going on but I will be happy to
reciprocate
when things are final.

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