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From: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Sohban Shahid)
Subject: Re: Nayyar Sultana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:15:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: Colorado State U. Civil Engineering

In article <1992Nov16.162136.27778@slate.mines.colorado.edu>, imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
|> In article <Nov16.053241.22923@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu writes:
|> >In article <1992Nov16.030715.64343@slate.mines.colorado.edu>, imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
|> >|> 
|> >|>      The famous film actress Nayyer Sultana died in Lahore.
|> >|> 
|> >|>      The Pakistan Government has declared following members of
|> >|>       Mohajir Quami Movement to be " Ishtahari Mulzim" and
|> >|> 	has announced an award of 10 lacks Rs. for anyone who
|> >|>           will help the govt. to arrest them either dead or 
|> >|> 
|> >|> 		           alive.
|> >|> 
|> >|> 
|> >|> Azeem Tariq
|> >|>      Imran Farooq ======>'IS THERE A DR. MISSING HERE'
|> >
|> >|> 	Saleem Shahzad 
|> >|> 		Baqar Rizvi
|> >|> 			
|> >|> 
|> >|> 
|> >|> 	
|> > 
|> >God must forgive her sins, and bless her soul.
|> >
|> >What is wrong with you guys?  Please think twice before you
|> >write your subject line.  Is there any correlation between
|> >late Nayyar Sultana and the other so-called 'Ishtahari mulzims'?
|> >And, whats the point in indenting those names?  Is there anything 
|> >special you want to emphasize on?  
|> >-- 
|> >
|> 
|>  I think you should see the doctor as soon as possible . These are news
|> and not necessariliy required to have any connection between them. 
|> The names that I have posted are already mentioned in all the newspapers
|> in Pakistan , for you kind information .

Mustafa, thanks for your advice, but if get a chance sometime in near 
future then watch/read news carefully.  You are putting cows and camels
together.  I don't think so Pakistani journalist are that dumb, atleast 
they have a good sense of humor. BTW, your indentation is still not 
clear to me, mind giving a tip on it.  

Thanks for the info, I'll try to keep it fresh in my mind.   

-- 
Ketterling's Law:
Logic is an organized way of going wrong with confidence.
*********************************************************************

SOHBAN SHAHID                
Civil Engg. Dept.                (303) 491 7710/8204 (work)
Colorado State University        (303) 224 0397  (home)
Ft. Collins, CO-80523

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar)
Subject: Re: God help pakistan
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:24:43 GMT

nadeem@igpho (Nadeem Malik) writes:

>All this is punishment from Allah for not following proper Islamic
>principles. The first step towards recovery would be for all politicains
>to announce the bannishment of the Mullah from any form of politics ..
>especially Jamat-e-Islami. We may have a chance then.

And you call THAT democratic?!?!?!?!
[Hmmm... How come I'm not surprised? :-) ]

-hd
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: silatman@hls.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Fight Strategy in Stickfighting
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:53:37 GMT



                  Fight Strategy in Escrima:


     In "Escrima", also known as Kali, Arnis, and more truthfully
Silat Sumba [from the island of Sumba, in eastern Indonesia],
the training is in two parts:

1. Learning the KEY:

    First, a student learns the key to the art, which is 
usually block and counter routines based upon defending against
a number of attack projections. The key has to be learnt and
practiced slowly and with precision. You increase the speed
of the practice of the key as your seeing increases, and
as you begin to perceive attack projections at higher speeds.

    In the Cabales Serrada system, this key is practiced with
one partner feeding the hits and the other responding with
the block and counter movements. 

    The most important part is the correctness of the footwork
and the body positioning. One way to practice this is 
to have one partner feed with the stick and the other not
have any stick, and just avoid getting hit with correct 
footwork and body motion. Then, give the man a stick and
respond with stick blocks. 

    A big mistake to be observed in most Escrima schools
is the neglect of realistic footwork and body positioning,
and just dependency on hand movements, without even 
leaning their head away from the oncoming hit! Also, one
should alternate training with soft sparring sticks to
get realistic hitting and high speed movements in
the training. This would improve reaction and specially
the footwork!

   2. Fighting Strategy:

   Once the key is learned, one must experiment with
"abnormal" stick attacks, ones not practiced against
normally, like continuous circular, horizontal and
linear type attacks. Against one who is an expert in
weaving, it is almost impossible to defend against
without using some strategy. Meaning, you cannot use
the knowledge of the key alone to fight an expert
who can make the stick vanish in his hand. To fight
such an opponent you need to position yourself
at a distance first, and move circularly around him,
on the opposite side from his attacking arm. Headon collision
is not recommended. Using just simple knowledge without
strategy against this person will be stupid, since
you will respond to the last time you saw his stick, and 
he is probably a few hits ahead of you by the time you
make the physical move. Such a person must be fought
at a distance first, and move so that he has to
adjust himself. 

   Many people practicing "Escrima" do not practice
high speed. Once they do they will have to come up
with strategies to close in on a fast hitter. It is
a matter of synchronisation with the opponent, in order
to break his attacking flow.

                       salam alaikum!

                                 Khalid Khan
From: mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Where to get Halal food in PARIS ???
Summary: halal
Keywords: halal
Date: 17 Nov 92 11:16:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: Ra.mac1.721999015
Organization: Mississippi State University



 Hello and Assalam-u-Alaikum cool Paki dudes,
 I'll be leaving for Paris this Friday. I'll be staying there for four
 days. Two things I am concerned about are which hotel to stay in ?
 Where to eat from. I usually don't eat 'JHATKA '. 

  If you have been to Paris before and have some good suggestions/ideas
 for another cool-Paki-dude, please email me as soon as possible. I'd like
 to get my hotel reservation by tomorrow.

 Again, any help will be greatly appreciated.

 Thanx.


Mubashir A. Cheema

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From: fxm4993@hertz.njit.edu (Farhan Muhammad)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: God help pakistan
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:29:58 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov21.021500.18425@u.washington.edu> qzuhair@milton.u.washington.edu (Newton) writes:
>In article <gf3JGxy00iV405p1kR@andrew.cmu.edu> Asad Iqbal <ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>
>>Thats all I can say after reading all about the protest march. What is
>>bhutto thinking..?
>>She is etting unassuming people killed so that she can govern.
>>I'm sure she knew that the march would cause unrest and maybe even a lot
>>of people hurt. If she really had something for the masses she shouldn't
>>have done what she did. Three people died hundereds were hurt. Is this
>>what is meant by politics.
>>What is she trying to do. She is killing people for the office.
>>She should be ashamed of herself.
>>She knew that there will be unrest which meant lots of people getting hurt
>>but she wasn't at all bothered she went ahead with it.
>>If there is an unpatriotic act that is one.
>>The government offcourse had to stop it, a large crowd is a potential
>>terrorist target.
>>First it was karachi and now islamabad where police is being stoned.
>>I'm sick and tired of this politics of agitation
>>GOD HELP US
>
>
>             BENAZIR IS A MURDERER, A KILLER WHO HAVE NO INCENTIVES BUT 
>TO SNATCH THE GOVERNMENT NO MATTER WHAT COST THE NATION MAY INCURS TO SUSTAIN
>HER GREED FOR EMBEZZELMENTS AND CORRUPTION. MAY GOD SAVE US FROM THIS VAMPIRE!
>
>>Asad
>
>
>
>....a pakistani...

		Amin.............(May God Protect Pakistan from Vampire
	politicians as Benazir Bhutto.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: eb139@cs.city.ac.uk (MAHMOOD Z)
Subject: Ataullah EssaKhelvi !!!!!!!
Organization: City University
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:19:29 GMT


Yo netters...
Are there any Ataullah fans out there on this newsgroup!!! if so then get
talking!!!!!!!!!!
Personally I think hes briliant......maybe someone could tell us all what he
is up to at this moment in time???
TTFN
Zaheer
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: saeed@watson.ibm.com (Saeed Jaffer)
Subject: Re: CFV: soc.religion.islam.ahmadiyya moderated
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:39:41 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

A question regarding this issue.  Was the name:

	soc.religion.ahmadiyya.islam

ever considered?  Would it make any difference to those who feel so strongly about
this?

----------------------------------------------------------------------
--saeed jaffer        			You wouldn't understand ...
saeed@watson.ibm.com  			It's a DESI thang.
saeed@athena.mit.edu  			;^)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: d89-ash@nada.kth.se (Ali Shah)
Subject: printing docs from MISBAH on HP LJ
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:35:46 GMT

Assalam-o-Alaikum!
	
	I use the Urdu Wordprocessing program called Misbah. The program claims to support HP LJ printers, but
I have not succeeded in printing out anything on my HP LJ III compatible. On the other hand, printing out on
a normal matrix printer is no problem at all.

	When I try printing out on my HP LJ all I get is a lot of weird characters. 

Does anybody know what can be done to solve this problem? Has anybody succeeded in printing Urdu documents on
a Laser printer?

Help  would be greatly appreciated.

/Ali
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From: azhar@cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian,soc.religion.islam
Subject: JUSTIFICATION THEORY of HUMAN BEHAVIOR
Keywords: Justification, Theory, Actions
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:13:04 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian,soc.religion.islam


THEOREM: For every action, there is an equal and opposite justification.


EXAMPLE 1: Falsifying information on your tax returns is denying the
Dept of Defense from making more weapons to kill people.
           Action: Falsifying information
           Justification: Denying DoD money for weapons

EXAMPLE 2: Helping a friend cheat on an exam because he was not
well-prepared. 
           Action: Helping friend cheat
           Justification: He is such a nice guy (or girl ;-))

EXAMPLE 3: Leaving out the reference from which you copied most of the
paper.
           Action: Plagiarism
           Justification: If I flunk out, my parents would commit
soo-syde (suicide).

EXAMPLE 4 (for muslims): Indulging in extra-marital (pre-marital)
intimacy.
           Action: Zina
           Justification: Did not have much of an option in this kafir
country.


COROLLARY: Let us think before we do something, so that we don't have
           to seek justifications later.

Salman [the resident theorist] Azhar
From: 92ali@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Is Benazir Muslim ? No Way !!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:31:21 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov23.012558.37866@slate.mines.colorado.edu>, imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
> In article <cf3zdWu00WBO434bho@andrew.cmu.edu> ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu (Asad Iqbal) writes:
>>Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.pakistan: 22-Nov-92 Is Benazir Muslim
>>?  No Way.. by MUSTAFA IBRAHIM @slate.m 
>>>  
>>>        I remember, when I was in Pakistan, I saw a statement 
>>>         from that time Prime Minister of Pakistan , the 
>>> champion of democracy , benazir bhutto . She said , " I dont
>>> believe that the witness of a man is equal to the witness of 
>>> two women. This is Grabage."
>>>  
>>> So if she doesnot believe in Quran , how come is she muslim ?
>>> No way. If somebody believes it, then he/she lives in fools
>>> paradise. 
>>>  
>>> What you guys think ?
>>That's a very sensitive issue.
>>I'm sure a lot opf people on the net would tend to agree with her
>>atleast I do and I believe not everything that worked 1400 years ago can
>>work in these times. Whatever the case I would not call her a non-muslim
>>just for that...there's alot of stuff we do that is worse but we still
>>go pray every Friday afternoon.
>>
>>Asad
> 
>  Nonsense buddy if things 1400 years ago cannot work today then
> why dont you change the Quran ? Bring a new Quran according 
> to this new age , modernazed version !!
> 
> Then your friday afternoon prayer return to you .
> You should also change this firday afternoon prayer since it is 
> 1400 year old. Add some pop music or if you like add some 
> disco dance in the Friday prayer !!






      You played an execellent shot and you actually hit a six outside the 
      stadium......keep up the good performance....well played...

Ahmed


Well Mustafa...



Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ysm@engin.umich.edu (Yawar Shahzad Murad)
Subject: Re: Paki BASTARDS
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 22:49:22 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Nov15.043427.100@cc.uow.edu.au> g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:
>wlnk_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Brian Willnecker) writes:
>
>
>>   DEATH           TO               PAKISTAN
>>-- 
>>****************************************************************************
>>* Brian Willnecker                   : "You can blow out a candle,         *
>>* wlnk_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu    :  but you can't blow out a fire"  PG *
>>****************************************************************************
>
>
>WELL DESERVED TITLE FOR PAKIS:
>
>BYE
>ADIL
>*******************************************************************************
>AA DIL SE DIL MILA DE, YEH DIL MAIN KYA HAI BATA DUN
>*******************************************************************************

This is the unkindest cut of all.........

Yawar

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: aa102@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Amer  Ahmad)
Subject:  Benazir Bhutto
Keywords:  Bhutto
Reply-To: aa102@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Amer  Ahmad)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:59:58 GMT

Listen fellow Pakistanis...all of you who think that Pakistan would be better off under Martial Law, think again.  Although I think Benazir may not be the best person for the job, and although I have tremendous hatred for Nawaz Sharif...they are both better for Pakistan (and Democracy) in the long run.  And for those of you who think that Benazir and the Bhutto's are better off dead...you all should really be ashamed of yourself for posting such trash.  We are the representatives of Pakistan in the West an



d by saying such unintelligent and cruel things like Benazir should be hanged "like her father" you make a negative impression...you all should really get a grip on your emotions.

Amer Ahmad

 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mkatyal@opie.bgsu.edu
Subject: Re: Paki BASTARDS
Organization: Bowling Green State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:12:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.233044.18204@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, wlnk_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Brian Willnecker) writes:
> 
>    DEATH           TO               PAKISTAN
> -- 
> ****************************************************************************
> * Brian Willnecker                   : "You can blow out a candle,         *
> * wlnk_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu    :  but you can't blow out a fire"  PG *
> ****************************************************************************
Dear Sir,
	Though I am not a Pakistani(Indian), I would like to know why
do you make such a racist comment?
	Manish.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Is Benazir Muslim ? No Way !!!
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:25:58 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

In article <cf3zdWu00WBO434bho@andrew.cmu.edu> ac46+@andrew.cmu.edu (Asad Iqbal) writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.pakistan: 22-Nov-92 Is Benazir Muslim
>?  No Way.. by MUSTAFA IBRAHIM @slate.m 
>>  
>>        I remember, when I was in Pakistan, I saw a statement 
>>         from that time Prime Minister of Pakistan , the 
>> champion of democracy , benazir bhutto . She said , " I dont
>> believe that the witness of a man is equal to the witness of 
>> two women. This is Grabage."
>>  
>> So if she doesnot believe in Quran , how come is she muslim ?
>> No way. If somebody believes it, then he/she lives in fools
>> paradise. 
>>  
>> What you guys think ?
>That's a very sensitive issue.
>I'm sure a lot opf people on the net would tend to agree with her
>atleast I do and I believe not everything that worked 1400 years ago can
>work in these times. Whatever the case I would not call her a non-muslim
>just for that...there's alot of stuff we do that is worse but we still
>go pray every Friday afternoon.
>
>Asad

 Nonsense buddy if things 1400 years ago cannot work today then
why dont you change the Quran ? Bring a new Quran according 
to this new age , modernazed version !!

Then your friday afternoon prayer return to you .
You should also change this firday afternoon prayer since it is 
1400 year old. Add some pop music or if you like add some 
disco dance in the Friday prayer !!
From: zabdi@bucknell.edu (Zakir Abdi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: The Best Person For Pakistan...
Date: 23 Nov 1992 23:12:47 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.cs.bucknell.edu
Keywords: Hydrocarbons...

	Dear Pakistani Brothers & Sisters [How depressed I am writing Sisters]

	The best person for Pakistan will be "Mirza Aslam Baig"

	Flames Welcome

	Khuda Hafiz

	Zakir Abdi

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From: ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: To Shakil Waiz Ahmad
Date: 18 Nov 1992 12:53:58 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: curie.systemsy.cs.yale.edu


In article <1992Nov18.142358.2013@prism.poly.edu>, ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain) writes:

> Founder of Ahmadiyya Movement has written more that 85 books on
> Islamic issues.  
> How many of his books have YOU read COMPLETELY?

Yeah, and my big bro can beat up your big bro, and my toy train is
better than yours, nah nah nah!  Geeeezz!!  What kind of reasoning is
this?  I have clearly quoted from the Qur'an, I have quoted from Gulam
Ahmed, I have presented my case very clearly.  If you have something
to refute, please do so.  Childish arguments of the above nature are
totally pointless.

-- Shakil
From: mks9e@amsun26.apma.Virginia.EDU (Mustafa Kemal Husein Saiyid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Mosque in CHARLOTTESVILLE VA
Date: 22 Nov 92 18:28:00 GMT
Reply-To: mks9e@amsun26.apma.Virginia.EDU (Mustafa Kemal Husein Saiyid)
Organization: University of Virginia

Dear Muslims,

I'm posting this letter to the net on behalf of the Islamic Society
of Albemarle County and Charlottesville in Virginia.

In recent years we have been blessed by a growing muslim presence on
and around the University of Virginia. Each year more muslims arrive,
a few stay and more faces appear regularly at Friday prayers and at
lectures and activities sponsored by the UVA Muslim Student
Association. Although this growth is a wonderful gift of Allah, it
makes all too obvious our need for a place to call our own.

Traditionally, the masjid formed a nucleus about which a town or
city revolved. We here in Charlottesville find ourselves with no
permanent presence and no base for Islamic practice, education or
propagation. Out jumma prayers are in a church, and although to
the ignorant or naive university administrator it is "non-
denominational," the UVA chapel is all-too-Christian. Many of
us find worshipping in a place surrounded by crucifixes and
depictions of a supposed son of God revolting_if not just
plain haram.

Some concerned Muslims in the area met to discuss this issue
on the first of the month. They made a tentative plan for
establishing an Islamic organization with a permanent facility
within the town and near the University. The result was the
Islamic Society of Albemarle County and Charlottesville.

ISAAC has set a goal of $150,000  for the purchase and
establishment of house for Muslims. This money would come
from Islamic and corporate organizational donations, parents of
students, Muslim families and individuals and organized not for
profit ventures. Our secretary is pursuing formal documentation
of ISAAC as a religious and legal corporation/association as well
as the appropriate tax exempt status.

We welcome all suggestions, assistance and participation.
Please contact:
Inayat von Briesen
ISAAC Acting President
109 Woodrow Street #36
Charlottesville, VA 22903
(804)296-7854

or
Mustafa K. Saiyid
837-6 Copeley III
Station 2
Charlottesville, VA 22904
(804)979-7850
mks9e@amsun.apma.virginia.edu

Finally, please remember that of the myriad activities that take our time
and energy, in the end there are only a few that we can proudly hold
forth before God when our time comes.

                                    Thank you,
                                    Mustafa Saiyid
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan