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From: melchar@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US (Melchar)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Vampires and the Twentieth Century
Date: 18 Dec 92 07:28:57 GMT
Organization: "The Enclave" -- Boulder Creek, California

> today would never be able to rise.  The culprit?  Embalming.
>       Today, once a body has been discovered, it is given at least a 
> preliminary autopsy within one day.  Once embalming fluid has been sub-
> stituted for the blood, the vampire won't be able to live, will he/she?

     Actually, the autopsies are only performed if the person has died of 
unknown causes (of which vampiric blood-loss would probably fall under) & 
if the family gives their consent.  Many families refuse this for 
religious reasons.  However, for modern victims that are meant to rise by 
their masters, there is no need for the body to be found.
    The only bodies found would be those of feeding kills (by sloppier 
sorts of the fanged folk) and in that case, the body's fate would be 
secondary, hmmm?
                                Melchar

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melchar@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US (Melchar)
"The Enclave" -- Boulder Creek, California -- +1 408 338-9754
From: raisch@Control.COM (Rob Raisch)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: VAMPIRES ARE FOR FAGS!
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:37:53 GMT
Organization: Control Technology Corp., Hopkinton MA

forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis ) writes:

>If murder weren't necessary, as Rice's books describe, the 
>eternity that would follow would be worth living.

<deep throated chuckle>

	If you are not _Of The Blood_, then you are meat.
-- 
-- </rr>
From: mason4@server.uwindsor.ca (MASON  CHRIS L           )
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: I'm a hypocrite (Was Re: VAMPIRES ARE FOR FAGS!)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 08:56:41 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

->      (I used to be a philosophy major, now I'm in psych... I'm 
-> also one
->   of the posters who rabidly defends immortality... I 
-> _will_not_murder_
->   for my own selfish needs annd wants.)
->      Take care all...
->                     - Jonathan "just a few more days left" L.

All right, I respect your opinion.  After all, what kind of person is
someone who would admit that they would be willing to become a vampire
knowing they would have to kill.  Well, I would.  Don't get me wrong, I
think murder is one of the worst possible things anyone can do, and
someone who does it should be severly punished. HOWEVER, if I became a
vampire, I'm sure my opinion would change. (or I'd gain the ability to
live with the guilt!) :-)

				Chris
From: haro@triton.unm.edu (..KANEDA..)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: VAMPIRES ARE FOR FAGS!
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:12:32 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

HUMMMM???

Vampires....FAGS....????????

Dracula got that babe LUCY....
Dracula got Winona (MINA)...
Draculas got 3 women at home...
Vampires seduce a lot of women...

HUMMMMM....?


GOSH, you really think vampires are fags?


RICK
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: wba2320@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: questions, comments
Reply-To: wba2320@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:46:22 GMT

hmm...

It occurs to me that there are those in this world that feel that vampires
and creatures of the night truly exist.

I've personally seen some strange shit in my time...  but nothing along the 

For many years I have entertained the thought of posessing powers and
abilities far above and beyond that of mortal man.  Yes... so i read a few
comic books when i was younger... inspirational to my imagination...

I will gladly invite a REAL vampire to come and grant unto me this GIFT.
Preferable an attractive one of the female variety :).
I am offering you the opportunity to build your ranks and preserve your
species...  my only hesitation... you must first converse with me regarding
various questions i have about REAL vampires.  my knowledge on the subject is
moderate as I have done various amounts of reading on the subject along with
the popular entertainment examples.  

ANY and ALL TRUE vampires are invited to converse with me.  I am not using an
anonymous posting service as i feel that if you are to be honest with me...
i should retuyrn the favor.  please... no morons, flames, flamers, fakes, 
wannabe's, or wishers...  honest to honest vampires only.  thank you.

by the way... one of the questions you would need to answer...
how do REAL vampires deal with the threat of AIDS being transmitted by blood?
	condoms on their canines?  NOT!!!


William B. Andrews
Your Guide to Midean
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Why Sunlight Kills
Date: 14 Dec 1992 08:12:06 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

RPS110@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
: I'm new to this newsgroup, but I've always been fascinated with all of the
: undead dragons being closet fairies and all that stuff. I'm also a biology
: major, and I will try to give some theories to the sunlight aspect. Ready?

: 1) Vampires can possibly have a melanocyte disease and sunlight's ultra-violet
:    spectrum can cause carcinogenic effects, resulting in one major case of
:    melanoma, which can spread to the rest of the body.

: 2) Exposure to sunlight causes vitamin D to be produced in the body. Perhaps
:    vampyres have a severe allergic reaction to vitamin D, somewhat like a
:    werebeasts reaction to silver(Speaking of which, is it pure silver or any
:    silver compound, can a werebeast be killed by a roll of film?).

: 3) Vampires can be vulnerable to other wavelengths of light, such as X-rays
:    or cosmic rays, and their effects are more violent than UV rays.

:    Of course, there could be some magical curse effect from being a creature
:  of the dark, and being negated by the light(Dammit Jim, I'm a doctor, not
:  a sorcerer!). I don't have any experimental data to back this bullsh*t
:  up, but if any vampires feel like participating in an experiment, I could
:  probably get a grant for this(Penn State will fund ANYTHING, Ha Ha!) and
:  possibly find some sort of treatment and/or cure. I hope this helps you out on
:  your theories, Cyrus.

:                                              Bob (spelled backwards, too!) S.


: ELSETIME!!!
  
Why treat--prevention is already available--SPF 3, a hat and a good set of
shades. :)

Karen

Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: an2863@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re: Voluptuous Blood-Sucking Tarts
X-Anonymously-To: alt.vampyres
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:38:37 GMT



> Who says there aren't any voluptuous, seething, low-cut vamps on computer 
> nets???  Speaking at least for myself (and probably a thousand lucsious 
> Theda Baras out there on the nets, stalking their electric prey).... 
> hacks aren't always dumpy asexual four-eyed mopers.  Some of us even type 
> away in velvet boudoirs, slinking about in gauzy, foggy rooms wearing 
> little but silk slips and pointy fangs.


I hope you are not refering you yourself (sorry nadja but I concider
you a far cry from Voluptuous/sexy; both mentaly and physicality)

In fact I have only met three perhaps four good looking, computer-active
females without a severe social problem.  Most are overweight and/or
co-dependent and  hang out (pray apon) with dumpy asexual computer
jockies, do to there lack of social grace/experance, will put up with
anything.

On there lighter side I can add there are a lot of blood suck cuties
with fangs out there.  (I met one at the last major Sci-Fi con in the area
last spring).  Nothing like being awakened by light sharp nips in the middle
of the night by a woman now looks like she should be on the cover of
"Draculena" (sp?) magazine.  [I remember one night while restrained with
rope, my seductive vamp niping in places I will normaly not let any type
of sharp object near.



Jack Deth

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From: argent@iastate.edu (The Great Grendel-Khan)
Subject: Re: Some Vamps are Bi
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:37:42 GMT

In article <an972.69@anon.penet.fi> an972@anon.penet.fi (Janet Erotic) writes:
>
>Hello there,
>
[stuff deleted]
>
>***********************************************************************
>Janet Erotic 
>
>Give me pleasure for the sake of pleasure.
>(Evil Grin) 


Give me a break.


-- 
The Great Grendel-Khan,  | They called me the fool, they called me the child
Earth Rim Roamer.        | I found an angel of the night;
                         | The voice was low, the look was bright.
argent@iastate.edu       | She looked upon my crown and smiled. -Tennyson-
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius)
Subject: Re: (STORY) Magyar's Tale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:44:17 GMT
Keywords: Vampire Story

My mailbox overfloweth!

Geez Louise...

Thanks to ALL of you who responded so enthusiastically and in
such force!

(I got a few comments regarding the possible rush job towards the
end... guilty I'm afraid... but as I mentioned in a few of my
replies I'm hoping to incorporate that into a 'flashback' format
which was admittedly different than my original plans for the
structure of the thing.)

I guess "Magyar's Tales" will be forthcoming in the future then...
I should have one ready for mid-break, or possibly two for post-
break... When I get the okay from Mithrandir (as I stated before,
my Vampire RolePlaying Game GM) I'll incorporate some of the most
recent activity into the stories.

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Marius   Sven Skoog   ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
From: werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: I'm a hypocrite (Was Re: VAMPIRES ARE FOR FAGS!)
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:20:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

renfield@camelot.bradley.edu  writes:

much text has been drained of life and disposed of...


> In <14DEC199214143200@cc.utah.edu> apm4366@cc.utah.edu (Miaullis, Aaron Paul) writes:
> 
> >In article <92348.153143JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu>, Jon Leistiko <JAL137@psuvm.psu.edu> writes...
>
> Hell, I think you just found your reason for accepting.  The world NEEDS to
> be protected from idiots like the Frogg brothers, and who better than a
> really smart vampire to protect us?
>

But, to use a phrase, who watches the watchman...

Food (blood) isn't so much of a problem unless the vampire needs to kill the 
"donor."  With a "charm" ability or some skill in hypnosis or even depending
on humanities tendency to rationalize everything it sees.  Take UFO sightings 
into evidence of this...(ie weather baloons, ultra-lights in formation, comets,
etc. but never an actual UFO).  Besides, I think a few of the people around 
here could probably find some "willing donors."  For vamps who wish to "come 
out of the closet," so to speak, think of what scientists would do just to run
a few simple tests.

Sol, the center of our solar system.  Who needs it.  Even if you are assuming
the Hollywood version of vamps (a single ray of sunlight kills), some sun-
screen, shades, trenchcoat, and a hat, would probably do nicely.  Besides, ever
hear of camcorders?  Not quite the same as being there, but untill virtual 
reality really hits, it should be good enough.

Just some ideas to munch on...

Eric the Super Annoying 
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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: emr002@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Reincarnation....
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:24:55 GMT



Hello out there (wherever you happen to be)...I just have a quick question..

	Are vampyres able to go back in time?..well I guess is more than one
question now.. is there anyone out there that feels that they have lived in
another time? ie. reincarnation.  Is there anyone that feels the need to go
back to some other period of time, as in to fulfill some task or something like
that?

 Please don't take this post as a joke, it's not intended as one. 
 
Thank you,

The Muse....

Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: branwen@sage.cc.purdue.edu ( )
Subject: Vampires and the Twentieth Century
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:25:27 GMT

      I have a little question regarding the current state of the vampire
population.  You see, I have a small problem with believing anybody could
become a vampire today.  Why?  It is not because I don't believe in vampires.
I think there must be some basis to any legend that exists in over 90% of
the world's mythologies.  The problem I have is that any vampire created
today would never be able to rise.  The culprit?  Embalming.
      Today, once a body has been discovered, it is given at least a 
preliminary autopsy within one day.  Once embalming fluid has been sub-
stituted for the blood, the vampire won't be able to live, will he/she?
      Furthermore, if a vampire must sleep in the earth of his grave, 
whether that earth is moved or not, what happens to those vampires who rise
from the dead in the city morgue?  What earth counts?  Also, whenever there
is a funeral, the eyelids are generally sewn shut to prevent post-mortem
"accidents" which would scare the living crap out of those viewing the body.
      And finally, if I were a mortician, there is no way I would miss the
fact that a body is missing almost all of its blood, has two puncture marks
on the neck, and has not exhibited much cellular deterioration.  I would
immediately think "Vampire" and dispose of the nasty beast through a quick
embalming, maybe adding some garlic or holy water to the syrum.
      Thus, I conclude that the age of the vampire population in existence
today must be quite old, and that there are very few, if any, new recruits.
                                                  Karen

(I'm not the Karen that is using Dan's account)

I am Karen, the Dark Mistress of Arctic Night
From: raven@Nocturne.Boulder-Creek.CA.US (System Ninja)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: VAMPIRES ARE FOR FAGS!
Keywords: babes in vampland seduction fags_not
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:57:37 GMT
Organization: "The Enclave" -- Boulder Creek, California

haro@triton.unm.edu (..KANEDA..) writes:

> HUMMMM???
> 
> Vampires....FAGS....????????
> 
> Dracula got that babe LUCY....
> Dracula got Winona (MINA)...
> Draculas got 3 women at home...
> Vampires seduce a lot of women...
> 
> HUMMMMM....?
> 
> 
> GOSH, you really think vampires are fags?
> 
> 
> RICK
> 

You got it!

I used to seduce and ravish my ex-girlfriend in the 
personna of a male (and very heterosexual) vampire
character from a novel I'm writing.  It was always
some of the damned hottest, steamiest sex we experienced.

Mmmm.

Now if only I can find a lady who has those type of interests,
again.  I never broke the skin, but I do think I may have
drawn minute quantities of blood a few times (intense sucking,
drawn through pores from capillaries).

Fags??? Naw...

Though naturally there are those of that persuasion, and I,
for one, will not judge nor discourage them from their tastes.

Too bad some people on the net can't learn to live and let
live...

-- R

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Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
From: werewolf@cwis.unomaha.edu (Eric E. Buckner)
Subject: Re: Rice characters are New Orleans gays??
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:51:34 GMT

Or, instead of isolating the sexuality of the vampires...you could, instead, 
focus on the lack of sexuality.  For someone who is going to live for hundreds
of years, what would it matter if this lover was a man and that one a woman.

The primary thing about European (which is what many of us are) culture is that
it focuses on the male--female relationship as the only possibility.  This can
be traced to Christianity.  If you look at other cultures (and even, I have 
heard, ancient Rome) some of them have homosexual relationships as the 
preferred form of relationship.  Others, have heterosexual relationships only 
at certain times and under certain conditions.

Being turned into a vampire would probably shake loose all the doctrination 
that most people recieve as they're growing up...Whatever you think of what I
just said, remember this...noone is 100% straight and noone is 100% gay.

Eric the Super Annoying

I may not agree with your lifestyle, but since I'm not asking for your opinion
on mine, why should you care what I think of yours?
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From: bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Anne Rice
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:57:23 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Grizabella) writes:

>In article <Dec.15.13.38.33.1992.17904@math.rutgers.edu> bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez) writes:
>>
>>There is an official fan club "The Anne Rice Vampire Lestat Fan Club",
>>that has a large coven party every October in New Orleans.  Usually
>>Ms. Rice attends, but this year she actually hosted it in her own home,
>>the house that was featured in "The Witching Hour".

>Are you absolutely sure about this? I don't think so. The party was held
>in a house on St. Charles Avenue, probably somewhere around Sixth Street,
>but I'm not positive about that. The house in _The Witching Hour_ is on
>the corner of Chestnut and First.

You may be right.  My memory isn't perfectly clear on this, as because
I couldn't go, I was a bit angry and ignored most of the info about it.
Perhaps what I was remembering was an early planning stage for the party.
Originally, it wasn't going to happen at all, much to a lot of people's
disappointment.  I apologize for posting without confirming the facts.
You are obviously correct in stating that she owns the WH house with the
"egyptian keyhole doorframe".  A picture of it is in Prism of the Night.
Perhaps I just got mixed up.  I will try to dig up my old newsletters, and
clear up any confusion.

Bil Gonzalez
From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Grizabella)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Anne Rice
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:14:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-14902]: thor

In article <Dec.15.13.38.33.1992.17904@math.rutgers.edu> bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez) writes:
>
>There is an official fan club "The Anne Rice Vampire Lestat Fan Club",
>that has a large coven party every October in New Orleans.  Usually
>Ms. Rice attends, but this year she actually hosted it in her own home,
>the house that was featured in "The Witching Hour".

Are you absolutely sure about this? I don't think so. The party was held
in a house on St. Charles Avenue, probably somewhere around Sixth Street,
but I'm not positive about that. The house in _The Witching Hour_ is on
the corner of Chestnut and First. This corner is about two blocks over
from St. Charles. I'm pretty sure my facts are straight because I saw the
party while it was in process. (My roommate and I were going to the Quarter,
and passed the house with all kinds of interestingly dressed people and a
big sign on the front that said "The Anne Rice Vampire Lestat Fan Club" or
some such. I was disappointed because I wasn't able to go.) I also went
searching for the house on First and Chestnut after reading _WH_ because
I "just knew" it had to exist because of all the excellent descriptions
of it in the book. I know that the house I found is Anne Rice's house
because there is a sign on the fence that says th "Rice-O'Brien House",
and because it fits the description of the WH house to a "T". :)

I didn't mean to ramble on like this... All I wanted to say was that the
fan club party was not held in the Witching Hour house which belongs to
Anne Rice.

Meow...
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From: mason4@server.uwindsor.ca (MASON  CHRIS L           )
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Rice Movie
Keywords: Vampire Story
Date: 19 Dec 1992 02:09:02 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

Does anyone have any information about how the movie version of Interview
With a Vampire is going?
From: bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: alt.vampyres
Subject: Re: Anne Rice
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:47:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis ) writes:


>What's your opinion of the Vampire Lestat comic? I saw it briefly in a local 
>bookshop, sniffed and turned my nose up at it; it sold like wildfire, and, 
>now that I'd like to get it, is nowhere to be found. 

I though LESTAT was ok in graphic form.  The artists' depictions of the
charachters of course did not match what I had imagined the characters to
look like.  Check comic book stores if you really want a copy.  It has
been published by both the original INNOVATION company
and BALLANTINE BOOKS.  I really don't like the others (INTERVIEW, etc.).
The art and editing just don't do the novels justice.


>If you have it available, could you post information about her fan club? 

I will do it as soon as I remember to find it.

eternally,

Bil Gonzalez
bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu
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