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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:44:41 PDT
From:         jprovo@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU
Subject: Re: robert [re: brain areas]
X-To:         fnord-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu

geez...go off to babysit a friend for a few days and look what rolls in....

From: Robert Holder <robert@WHIPLASH.ER.USGS.GOV>
>
>ah, heat!  well, I never said I wasn't full of shit,
>and now you have kindly pointed that out for me.
ding!
I was merely pointing out the full-of-shitness on the resources issues.
Sorry - I'm a professional geek who fields networking-worth issues daily.
And I'm sorry if you feel that I unfairly took a stab at the gov't; I think
any stab at Something Big is a good one. Sorry that yer on the Inside...

>all lessons are painful, many of my teachers end up playing
>the role of enemy.  hollywood (america?) doesn't like that
>but it's a fact of life.
never denied it -- I hope i get the same protection for anything I say - deal?

>so if you see contradictions in me, it MAY be that you
>are seeing my growth.
..or the UFO made me do it, or i was possessed, or I was enraptured by
somebody's god, or....[see my previous post for some other Excuses. :-)]

>I came to fnord to see new ideas.  I sent
>my general attack to stir things up, and I thought it
...and, to misquote someone else 'you thought you would always be in on the
joke?'
>be appropriate here in the new idea area.  Obviously it
>has pissed you off (probably others too).  Most learning is
>painful.  and I ain't going away.
umm, yah, but is it a one-way street? You piss me off and I'm s'posed to learn
but not vice-versa? sorry, if that's your New Way, sounds just like someone's
silly ol' authoritarian way to me....

> if you want to filter me out, that's my loss, and I would regret it:
sorry, I don't believe in doing it - it was a pre-emptive counter argument to
the people who pipe up *about* filtering and such.....

>I came here to reach.  Out of place
>in the electronic age, you are somebody who believes in
>something.
sorry, i think you mistake me for a foss-y wannabe.  I don't believe in
ANYTHING. I act as if I exist 'cause I choose so. I act as if others exist
'cause it entertains me. I believe in something for a little while if i think
it's interesting.....

>I guess if I don't fit in here (either) then you can all kick me out.
bzzzt. No-one can kick you out. This is a mailing list gatewayed to a
newsgroup. No-one [except maybe Pat] has the authority to do anything to it.
[your milage may vary from site to site]

>disagreement is the source of learning.
I would disagree....but I think that we have room to do so...
>you think I'm a "stonehead" (dry empiric geologist)?  It's not true.
it's also your interp of my word.....I just meant 'geologist', YOU injected the
value of dry and the attribute of empiric....

>incidentally, I do respect leary and all the other fringe
>thinkers of our culture.  but are they the leaders today?  so
>far, lacking a clear leader, I have chosen to stand alone.
good - I would hate to have some idiotic Thinker Worshipper around here...

>Where do the people on this list want to go?
(me?,) Away from humans.

>FINALLY, jprovo, I WAS ATTACKED FIRST (ugliest on the list etc.)
>and I responded.  more flames, I'm sorry jprovo, that is not
>what I meant to start here.  But I'm not going to lay down and
>die!
well, I ignore the twits as best I can.
sorry that you hadn't lingered long enough to learn which ones those are....

onward!

joe

Disclaimer: "I'm the only one foolish enough to claim these opinions as mine."
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