From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: DAN IS GETTING UPSET! (was Re: SKIP'S POINTS ARE *SILLY*! ;)Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!)
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:14:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.174852.28566@rmece49.upr.clu.edu> raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez) writes:
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>|> Duh, the Amiga has had "localbus" video all along.  Leave it to the Clone
>            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  True... but....:
>
>    LocalBus is supposed to run @ the same speed of the CPU.
>
>    The AmiBus runs @ 14Mhz (from Byte, first issue), but it has to
> do an interleave with the 68000 (7Mhz CPU) so it goes @ 7Mhz (I hope
> Dave Haynie will correct me!).  So, on the A4000, with 4x the bandwith
> we are supposed to get an effective "28 Mhz" bus speed, which is quite
> exceptional.  But then, a 486 @ 50Mhz with local bus *is supposed to do*
> 50Mhz on the LocalBus...  Ouch!

Ah, but many of those LocalBus video boards are dumb, requiring the CPU to
do all the work.  By contrast, the 040 in the Amiga is free to concentrate
on other things instead of being tied down by the video.  If a graphically
intensive application is running, say a full motion animation, the 486 will
most likely be bogged down much more than the 040 in the A4000.  And should
the application be floating-point intensive, the A4000's advantage will be
even greater due to the 040's superior FP performance.

Man, twisting things around like this is fun!  :-)

>|> makers to jump on the bandwagon and then pretend like they are the leaders.
>
>   About originality, innovation and leadership, I agree.  Clones are dumb.

Watch who you are calling dumb.  A few of the more sensitive types are already
upset that we have been saying that the Clone owners are dumb.  You wouldn't
want to hurt the feeling of a poor Clone would you?

>|> As for data rates, are you aware of how fast Zorro III is?  Alot faster and
>|> more elegant than the EISA kludge and faster than the MCA that IBM uses in
>|> their PS/2s.  If Dave Haynie is reading this, he'll set you straight.  :-)
>
>   Yep, also heard that from another source (Zorro III being ultracool)
>although there's supposed to be a new implementation of MCA (not on 
>PS/2's) which is supposed to be better.

Yeah, the RS/6000s have a faster version and there are supposed to be others
in store.  Now we just need a few Zorro III boards to stick in the slots. :-)

>|> >run Windows.  (Ohh, I *knew* that would get you! ;)  )
>|> 
>|> Give me a break.  Windows is crap and I don't even use it on the whoop-ass
>|> Clone on my desk at work.  Why would I want to cripple the Amiga with a
>|> piece of junk program launcher sitting on top of a non-OS?
>
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>     I LOVE THIS!!!!! I WANT TO USE THIS QUOTE FOR SIGNATURES!
>
>  Please Skip, can I License it? :-)

Hell, use it for free.  Unlike Apple and a few others, I don't believe in
involving laws and the asshole lawyers in everything.  :-)

>--------------------------------------------------------------
>  Raist   // Amiga 500, 38Mhz Special MegaMidget Racer
>        \X/  Avid user of AmigaVision, sending mail from Mayaguez, Puerto Rico 
>---------
>           "If the PC or Mac continues to be the standard,
>            the SkyNet will never be built." - OUCH! were not my words!

Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

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