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From:         David Nordell <DAVID@ILNCRD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Macro editor: ED

Regarding the queries about a decent macro editor for WP, there is a
complete macro programming environment package available by FTP from
Simtel-20 and mirrors. I got mine from:
wuarchive.wustl.edu::/mirrors/msdos/wordperf/mpe4wp12.zip
There is also a second package, I think in the same directory, called
mcroade4.zip.
David Nordell
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From:         Johan Berteloot <JBERTELO@RKC.UFSIA.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: Word Perfect 6.0
              13 Nov 92 16:13:12 CST from <CC37@SDSUMUS.SDSTATE.EDU>

On Fri, 13 Nov 92 16:13:12 CST Melodie Lichty said:
>> CC37@SDSUMUS.SDSTATE.EDU (Melodie Lichty) writes:
>>
>> >[Stuff deleted ... ]  It includes Grammatik (a grammar checker) and
>> >ATM (Adobe fonts), in addition to several new button bars and other
>> >features.
>>
>> Does this mean that WP6.0 will have Grammatik as standard, or just the
>> windows version?
>>
>> Mike
>I don't know. WP isn't saying yet. The only press release I saw was
>for Windows 5.2, and I assume that will carry over to 6.0. Guess
>we'll have to wait and see (or maybe Barb can leak this info,
>if she's still monitoring this list).

Hi,

Concerning Grammatik : I'm wondering if the add-on will also be available
on translated versions. The stand-alone version does not exist in my native
language (Dutch), so will WordPerfect be developing it ??

Thanks for the comments,
--- Johan

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Word Perfect Corporation may be reached by addressing mail to their 
CompuServe account. The Internet address is '71035.347@compuserve.com'. 

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From:         John Bigelow <ECON1286@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject:      RE: WP Purchases
              18 Nov 1992 12:03:52 -0600 from <F_MURRAYME@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU>

On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:03:52 -0600 Dr. Mary Ellen Murray said:
>Are these prices for bulk purchases only?  May an individual educator
>purchase WP for home use at those prices?
The prices I posted from the U. of MO's purchasing department are *ONLY*
for department purchases.  Campus Computing has repeatedly told us that
individuals, whether educators or not, could not use these prices for
home purchases.  The university's computing center does sell at a small
discount to educators, but it's not much different from what you can get
mail-order.

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From: maven@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Jim Baltaxe)
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Subject: Re: Request: Pgm to WP -> ASCII
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:03:15 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington

In article <19921122215830ECL4JMS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU> ECL4JMS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Jeff Suttor) writes:
>Am looking for a simple PD program that will read in a WP file and write
>out an ASCII file, just like TEXT OUT does.  Would like it to be able to
>be called from a batch file and/or accept wildcard file parms.  Looked
>in simtel, etc. archives but didn't uncover any candidates.  Any ideas?
>
>Thanks,
>

Use the CONVERT program that came with WP51. It will do everything you
want. I suspect that's why they included it ;-)



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From:         Michael Hollinger <MCHOLL@TSRV1.TS.WM.EDU>
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> Apparently WPC (Pacific
> at least) is very enthusiastic about e-mail and internet specifically
> for in house use. Pity they don't seem to be supporting its protocols
> directly in their products.

If I read the messages correctly, WP 6.0 will be supporting that. No??
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From:         "(Bob Babcock)" <peprbv@CFA0.HARVARD.EDU>
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              17 Nov 1992 09:53:00 PDT <9211172332.AA29808@cfa0.HARVARD.EDU>

>>i'd like to second m. morse's condemnation of ScreenExtender for WordPerfect.
>>i spent 85 scarce dollars on that damn program three years ago while i was a

I've never seen ScreenExtender, but I couldn't let this message go by without
commenting that 3 years is a long time in the software business, certainly
long enough to turn a dog into a star (or vice versa).

Before considering a product like ScreenExtender, note that Word Perfect
itself will work in odd-sized video text modes if your hardware supports them
and you have a utility to switch into the mode before starting WP.  Check your
video board documentation and any utilities which came with the board.  You
need an add-on if you can't get into an appropriate text mode.  The add-on
will run in graphics mode, which has to reduce performance.  I find that a
typical PC monitor doesn't have the resolution to make 132 characters per line
very readable, but 100 characters isn't bad, and is about the number needed
for typical proportional fonts.  But, a lot of video boards won't do
100xanything, and if they do, the resulting scan frequency is usually strange
so only a true multisync monitor can be used.  Something to consider when
shopping for new hardware.
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I am in the process of setting up my first network a NetWare 3 lan for
a student lab with WP 5.1. I wanted to set the print quality default to
draft. I did this through setup and it worked along with some other changes.
It worked that is until I made the set file read only so the lab users
couldn't change it.  The unusual thing is that not all of my changes were
there any more.  The draft setting went back to high. I set the file back
to normal and it was back to draft.  Why would making the set file read
only change some of the setting back to the original default?  Have I
done something wrong or is there a list of settings that go back to the
default if the set file is read only?

Any suggestions?

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Subject: Re: Phonetic alphabet
From: maven@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Jim Baltaxe)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:02:17 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington

In article <01GRBYKPPI8Y00131P@drunivac.drew.edu> "Paul R. Coen" <PCOEN@DRUNIVAC.DREW.EDU> writes:
>This leads to the question on whether or not there is a character set
>anywhere that contains the complte International Phonetic Alphabet,
>or at least the American English variant of it.  There are characters
>in it that aren't available in Wordperfect at the moment.

I know of two solutions, one PD the other proprietary:

1. Phonetics symbol set fonts for the HP Laserjet and Word Perfect 5.1
   printer and screen drivers. By Timothy Montler
   (montler@vaxb.acs.unt.edu) Distributed on one disk in three files:
   README.1ST, FONTS.EXE, DRIVERS.EXE.

   HARDWARE REQUIREMENTS: MS(PC, DR)-DOS computer with a hard disk
   (about 1MB of free space) connected to a HP Laserjet series II,
   IIP, IID, III, IIIP or compatible (an extra 1MB of printer memory
   is recommended but not required) These fonts will not work properly
   with earlier Laserjets such as the Plus. They will not work in
   conjunction with a Postscript cartridge.

   SOFTWARE REQUIREMENTS: Word Perfect 5.1 is required to use the printer
   drivers and screen fonts.  The printer fonts may be used with other
   word processors, but you will have to create your own drivers. 

2. World Font for WordPerfect 5.1. By DataCal Corporation 531 E. Eliot
   Rd. Chandler AZ 85225 USA, Fax (602) 545 8090. Supports 16
   languages and 40 type faces. Screen and printer font sets. Point
   sizes 8, 10, 12, 14 & 20 for each type face. Up to 3 language
   typefaces on asingle text line. etc. (from the package). IPA is
   included. Cost is about $350. Requirements are similar to above,
   but will work with Laser Twin which gives HP emulation on other
   printers, including PostScript. Uses a dongle for copy protection. 

I have installed both packages and each will work with the designated
printers, but I have not been able to give them anything like a
thorough testing.

I can send you a copy of the first if you can't get it anywhere else.

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From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher)
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Subject: Re:      RE: Getting Setup information automatically - {SYSTEM}field~?
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:30:39 GMT
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Well,
I just wrote WordPerfect a nastygram on this. 

The way the Office/Shell macros do this is to bring up the screen, then
use some kind of screen-grab to snatch such items as the release date
off the screen. Ugh. The whole house of cards collapses when you use a
different-size video mode.

I told them there was no reason not to write one simple machine and/or
C program to parse the wp.set file that holds such data, and load it
into macro variables. 

I've not had an answer yet.....
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From: hsitz@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Herbert E Sitz)
Subject: Re: Getting Setup information automatically - {SYSTEM}field~?
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:41:36 GMT

In an earlier post I said:
>>I have a very early version of 5.1, but I am under the impression
>>that later versions have a new variant of the {system} command that
>>will read in the value of the menu entry in the current menu.
>>If this is the case, then a macro could simply go into the setup
>>menu where file directories are set, and then "read" the macro
>>directory by using the {system} command with the appropriate
>>system variable.  I seem to remember hearing that the system
>>variable to use is "field".  If this is right the macro could
>>position itself on the macro filedirectory menu choice, and assign
>>the {system}field~ value to a variable.
>>
>>Will someone please tell me if this is indeed a feature of later
>>versions of 5.1, since I'd like to get a new copy if it is.

To which was correctly replied:

>{SYSTEM}field~ is not doucmented in the manual nor does it do anything in
>the 3/9/92 version of WP5.1

BUT,
I checked with WP Technical Support to find out where I'd gone
wrong in imagining that there was a {system}field~ command.
Found out that it was the {system}entry~ command which was absent
from early versions of 5.1, but later added.  This command lets you 
read the current entry in a menu into a variable, but only from a
menu list, e.g. a list of fonts (you could read current base font 
into a variable) or a list of styles.  There is no system variable 
to read in the entry in a simple menu item.
 
However, users with WP Office will be able to accomplish the same 
thing in their macros.  WP Office (which I unfortunately don't 
have) allows you to read the characters at a certain position on 
the screen into a variable.  You can position yourself on the menu 
entry and then read in the characters at that position on the 
screen.  So the method of discovering the current macro file 
directory I outlined above should still be possible if you have WP 
Office.  
 
For people who don't have WP Office, does anyone know of a 
shareware or public domain TSR program that will allow you to read 
the characters at a specified position on the screen, and then 
paste them into another application.  This would allow much the 
same thing as WP Office does.



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From:         BERGEN@UNTVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Clip art/Paint Program

>I am looking for a good paint/draw program that comes with alot of clipart.
>I would like to use the graphics with Wordperfect for Windows.  Presently, I
>am looking at Corell Draw, and Draw Perfect.  If anyone has any suggestions as
>to which is better or if anyone has a better idea I'd appreciate it. (Right
>now I'm leaning tword Draw Perfect $85.00 vs Corell Draw $600)

You don't say if you are at a university or not, but if you are, you can
get CorelDraw for about $200. Also, I have Windows Draw by MicroGrafx
and it works for me...it depends on what you want to do with it. You
should be able to get it for just under $100 at most computer discount
stores or by mail order. So far, all the reviews I've read have said
good things.

Good luck.

Janie Bergen @ The University of North Texas, Denton, TX
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From:         AVISHAI ANTONOVSKY <KPUAV@HUJIVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      sorting in keyboard macros list

Hi, I have a list of alt & ctrl macros that I included in a self-created
keyboard macro, to suit my needs. Some macros were taken from WP's various
WPK's supplied with the program. I was wondering if there is any special
order in which the macros are listed (when you do Shift-F1, 5, 7). They seem
to be more or less in alphabetical order by key (i.e. alt-b before alt-c),
but certainly far from 100% alphabetical. They're not in order of creation
(KEY MACRO #), or sorted by description.
(1) Does anyone know how WP sorts them?
(2) Does anyone know a way of sorting them by the user?
What I did for easy reference was use a screen capture program to save them
as DOS text, import them as a document, sort and print. Is there something
faster (maybe even thru a macro)?
If it makes a difference, I use WP51 DOS, version date 25 August 1992; I
have two earlier versions of 5.1 and it's just the same.

Avishai Antonovsky
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From:         Cletus Stripling <CSTRIPLI@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      WP Conference Schedule

Has anyone attended one of the WordPerfect conferences in Orem?  Are they
quality presentations?

I haven't seen a list of conferences being held recently.  Does anyone have
a schedule that they could summarize to the list?

Thanks!
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From: hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg)
Subject: Re: Timed backup and Novell networks
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:07:07 GMT

In article <48827.reitsmac@max.cc.denison.edu> Charlie Reitsma <REITSMAC@DENISON.BITNET> writes:

>A couple years ago the consensus was that timed backup didn't get along
>well on Novell networks and may have actually caused diskette problems.
>Does anyone have any better experience to report now...i.e. is someone
>using timed backup on Novell networks all the time and having no strange
>problems?

We've been using times backup ever since we started our Novell network (6 
mos ago) and haven't had any problems.  The default directory for the 
backups is set to the user's home directory on the network.  This is a lab 
situation, so we have ca 100 users with their own home directories, and, as 
I said: no problems whatsoever.

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From:         Bob Babcock <peprbv@CFA0.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject:      TeX to WP
              19 Nov 1992 20:44:38 GMT <9211201418.AA17580@cfa0.HARVARD.EDU>

>>I've just got a reply from wp support stating it is not possible at
>>the moment to convert TeX (equations only) to wp equations
>>automatically.

Someone here has been working on a C++ program which converts LaTeX equations
from Maple to Word Perfect format.  He says that he will document it and send
it to Simtel20.  If you need it quickly, send mail to murison@cfa.harvard.edu
and he will put it someplace where it can be retrieved by anonymous ftp.

Three things to watch out for:
(1) Word Perfect seems to have approximately a 4096 character limit on the
text form of an equation.
(2) There are probably LaTeX constructs which MAPLE doesn't use; the converter
program won't know how to handle these.
(3) Equations may require tweaking after conversion.
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From:         Gary Fitzgerald <$GARYF@SASB.BYU.EDU>
Subject:      Soundcard with Presentations

Does anybody know which soundcard is being shipped with presentations?
I am very curious.

Gary
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From: horgan@mantis.csu.murdoch.edu.au (John Horgan)
Subject: Sun WP51 and Network Printers ?
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 20 Nov 92 05:01:14 GMT

WP51 for Sun requires a filter to be defined in /etc/printcap. However,
the filter must be other than an "of" filter.

We have printers hanging off Emulex Terminal servers on our net and Emulex
have provided an "of" filter for SunOS printcap. This reacts badly with the
WP51 requirement for a "cf or gf or ..." filter. I have not found any
filter combinations that work.

Help !!
From: balarie@pearl.tufts.edu
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Subject: Video and Computer-based Training material
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:59:03 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I am looking for some computer based training materials for WordPerfect 5.1 and
WP4WIN.  Any suggestions??

I have some videos that were purchased from WP, I am looking to add to these 
videos.

If you send the mail to me I will sumarize and post to the list.

Thanks....  

Barbara Alarie
Academic Computing
Tufts University

Internet:  balarie@pearl.tufts.edu
From: jcao@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Jingbin Cao ~{2\>01r~})
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Subject: Re: TeX to WP
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:44:38 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

In article <WPCORP-L%92111909153628@VM1.YORKU.CA> MONAT@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA (Paul Massue-Monat) writes:
>On Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:00:51 GMT Kristin Kelly Buxton said:
>>I have some files that were produced in LaTeX and am not sure how to
>>convert them into WP format (including equations, etc.)  If anyone
>>would have any information that might help me please email. Thanks
>>Kristin
>>kkb55224@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>>kkb55224@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu (NeXT mail accepted)
>
>If you ever find the answer, please tell everybody! I've never heard
>of a solution but like to know of one.

I've just got a reply from wp support stating it is not possible at
the moment to convert TeX (equations only) to wp equations
automatically. Given the immense popularity of TeX in the math world,
Mathematica exports equations in TeX for example, those of us who are
smart enough to use wp equations will inevitably face the conversion
issue. Let's all write to wp demanding such a capability be included
in future versions. It shouldn't be too costly for them. Besides,
AmiPro, wp's major competitor, supports TeX equations.

Act now! wp can be reached at 71035.347@compuserve.com

Jingbin

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              Head of ESA Translation Division" <DCOOKRAD@ESA.BITNET>
Subject:      Tables in columns

I haven't noticed it mentioned as a feature at last available in the upcoming
WPerfect 6 - but can we hope that "they" will be letting us put a table in the
middle of a column when the new version comes out?- heaven knows enough people
have been making it plain they need this, as a standard feature without the
inelegant workaroundof a text-box...

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