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From: aggie@wealthy.ocean.fsu.edu (I R A Aggie)
Subject: Re: Authorized dealers--HAH!
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: An Ol Ag surrounded by a bunch of unfriendly Seminoles
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 01:21:49 GMT

In article <1063581.2B613452@cmhgate.fidonet.org>,
Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) wrote:

> It's too late to call the Apple Customer Assistance Center today, but I'd like
> to know if anyone else has gotten this song and dance.  Better yet, I'd like
> to know if this is indeed the truth--because I strongly suspect it is not. 
> Didn't this discussion hit the rounds on the net some time ago?

Well, it's not clear cut. To wit (From the booklet: Getting Started with
your Macintosh IIci, pg. 18):

Installing expansion cards

Warning: To avoid damaging your computer and expansion card, do not 
attempt to install any expansion card without first checking the Apple
documentation for that card. If the documentation specifies that an
Apple authorized dealer or service provider must install the card 
(usually because the installation require special training or tools),
be sure to have your Apple dealer or service provider do the installation.

Attempting to install the card yourself *may* [emphasis mine] void the
Limited Warranty on your computer. If the card is not an Apple-labeled
product, then check with an Apple authorized dealer or service provider
to see if you can install it without voiding the warranty.

------------------

As I read this, it means that it's up to the *service provider* to 
determine if the installation will void the warranty. I wonder what
the average service provider will say?

That's a rhetorical question. Of course they'll claim it voids the
warranty. Every single stinking time, if they're more interested in
turning a profit, instead of having happy and satisfied customers.

James
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu (Matt Healy)
Subject: Re: Editing Sys 7.0.1 System Icons
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Yale University--Genetics
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:14:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan18.222730.104389@uu0570.foggybottom.com>,
ben_howard@uu0570.foggybottom.com wrote:
> 
> I'm trying to edit my system icons. i am running into trouble when i place an
> icon into the system file (a copy, that is). ResEdit tells me that i am about
> to place an uncompressed resource where there should be a compressed one.
> 
> can anybody help?  

Get the book "Zen and The Art of Resource Editing", 3rd Edition
by Schneider et al.  ISBN 0-938151-75-4 US$24.95/Can$ 31.95 from
Peachpit Press.  Comes with a diskette full of mega-nifty stuff!

Matt Healy
"I pretend to be a network administrator; the lab
 net pretends to work!"

matt@wardsgi.med.yale.edu
From: jasons@bmc.uu.se (Jason E Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: What is Macsbug ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Date: 23 Jan 1993 00:58:27 GMT
Organization: Dept of Med Gen
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mac3.medgen.uu.se

In article <1jishu$g7o@agate.berkeley.edu>, jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu
(Joel Siegel) wrote:

> More seriously, there are other useful MacsBug commands for us
> non-programmers.  es escapes you to the shell (Finder), ea will sometimes
> (okay, rarely) dump you back into your application allowing you to quit
> graacefully, rb will reboot and rs I *think* is supposed to do a Finder
> restart, saving you time on the reboot.  Plus, the info MacsBug gives you
> when you get dumped there following a system crash can sometimes be useful
> to the tech support folks.  The down side is you don't get the bomb icon
> any more :(

One thing more, the "help" command for online help is also useful.

Jason

----------------------------------------------------------------
Jason Stewart    	                      Father at large
Department of Medical Genetics
jasons@bmc.uu.se
From: IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jon Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,maine.forsale
Subject: Apple ImageWriter LQ 4Sale
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:41:32 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

=========================================================================
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 26 Jan 1993 10:30:22 EST
From: Jon Carr <IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,misc.forsale.computers.mac
Subject: Apple ImageWriter LQ

Apple's only widebar (160 column) printer.  260 dpi res.
Like new (<750  pages printed).  I have a LaserWiter
and I find I just don't use the printer to print widebar stuff.

This printer is _very_ fast at low res. text printing.  Not too
bad ant hi-res stuff either (its no LaserJet IIIsi, but it gets
the job done).

I would like to get $400 for this great printer.  I will include
a printer stand, dust cover and whatever is left of my 8.5x11
tractor feed paper (sorry, all my green-bar is gone).

Please reply via e-mail.  If your not in the area, we can negoitiate
about shipping.  I'm somewhat flexible.

    -----> Jon                                   Jon Carr
    -----> IO91748@MAINE.BITNET                  36 Forest Ave
    -----> IO91748@MAINE.MAINE.EDU               Orono, ME 04473
    How about those 24-0-2 Black Bears!!!  M-A-I-N-E GO BLUE!!!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: dh747612@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Dana Hartshorn)
Subject: Re: Superclock 4.0.2 crashes SE
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:04:26 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

Crashed a friend's SE 4/40 too.  Similar configuration, same messages.  It's
definitely SC4.02, but I'll be damned if I can figure out what it's conflicting
with.  Booting with shift, coontrol, option & mouse keys down still makes for a
crash.

Same clock with a loaded IIci under system 7.1 is flawless.

Dana
From: dana@are.Berkeley.EDU (Dana E. Keil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: FTPing large amounts of software (Q)
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:41:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.1k1c97$8hb
Organization: UC Berkeley, Agr & Res Economics
NNTP-Posting-Host: are.berkeley.edu

In article <1k189gINNen4@mailgzrz.TU-Berlin.DE> georg@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Georg Schwarz) writes:
>In <1993Jan25.075452.1829@tdb.uu.se> m92pbo@tdb.uu.se (Peter Borken) writes:
>
>>Oki, there is a program called tar for unix, type 'man tar' to see what it can do...
>The problem is to extract the tar files once they are on the Mac.

To do that you should get the application called "suntar."
-- 
Dana E. Keil           Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics
dana@are.Berkeley.EDU                 University of California, Berkeley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: zaphod@bluemoon.use.com (Peter Bierman)
Subject: Re: Authorized dealers--HAH!
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 10:25:41 EST

Adam.Frix@p18.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Adam Frix) writes:

> The local major authorized dealer here in town, a large computer retailer
> who's
> been around for awhile and has been selling Apple computers for ages, told me
> today that installing NuBus cards into a Macintosh (IIci is the machine we
> were discussing in particular) voids the warranty.  This discussion came abou
> after I overheard the salesman discussing with a customer how the customer
> would bring his IIci in to have a Radius video board installed.
> 
> That's $50 into the dealer's pocket.
> 
> I called him on it, gently, in the disbelieving amazement of someone who had
> never even thought about it (so as to get him to open up).  He reassured me,
> with his manager sitting right next to us paying attention to us, that indeed
> installing a NuBus card into any Mac, large format (II/cx/ci/fx/Quadra) or
> small (IIsi, LC), would absolutely void the warranty.  The manager looked on
> in approval.
> 
> It's too late to call the Apple Customer Assistance Center today, but I'd lik
> to know if anyone else has gotten this song and dance.  Better yet, I'd like
> to know if this is indeed the truth--because I strongly suspect it is not. 
> Didn't this discussion hit the rounds on the net some time ago?

Well, Adam, I also live in Columbus, OH, and I know who you're talking 
about. I *won't* buy hardware from them. Period. I get sick every time I 
go ito their mac section. I almost always have to help some poor soul that 
the salesman just screwed. They no have AT-ease on all the machines, so 
there's no use playing on the new ones, you can't get a feel for the 
machine.

I can tell stories. Oh yes.

I overheard one salesman tell someone that there was no '040 option for 
the Mac. (This was pre-quadra, but post rocket). The guy interested owned 
a SparcStation, and was definately willing to buy something he needed now. 
The salesman had never heard of the rocket.

I overheard someone looking for a cheap term-program, to call CompuServe 
with. The salesman suggested either White Knight or Microphone II. I 
suggested Z-term, or calling CIS and getting CIM for free! The salesman 
had heard of niether.

I wrote a letter to MC's management. I got a call back, asking why I was 
so angry, and what they could do. I told them that making sure that theior 
salesmen had some basic knowledge of the machine they're selling would be 
nice. They asked how they could do this. I suggested that their salesmen 
might actually read MacWorld. They gave me some story about how that was a 
good idea, but MW didn't give them free subs to give to their salesmen. 
Jeez.

Some dealers are bad, this place is despicable.


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From: z_druid@mind.ORG (Sonic Druid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Mac XL/Lisa 2.....
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 01:23:57 -0500
Organization: Fortress Development HQ

 
  Hi,
 
   I'm looking for boot disks or the Macworks disks for the
Mac XL/ Lisa 2.......also users manual, and anything else on
this machine......
 
 email: Eudoh@sct.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: mlaurenc@world.std.com (Matt Laurence)
Subject: Optical Drive dilemma
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 05:43:10 GMT

I have a dgr 3.5" magneto-optical drive that takes the standard 3.5"
128 MB cartridges, and it's worked pretty well up until now. And,
as far as I can tell, the drive is still working fine, but one of
the cartridges (only one out of four) refuses to mount. It was
formatted properly, same as the other three, with FWB's HDT Lite,
and I've been using it without fail for some time. For a while,
my computer was out of commission, so I moved the drive to an SE
running system 6.05, and it worked fine. When I switched the drive
back to my IIcx, however, this one cartridge refused to mount. It
goes in and sounds like it's mounting, but then it clicks a few
times, finally spinning down as if it's about to eject the disk, 
but it then instantly spins up again to try again. If I hold the 
eject button in, it eventually spits out. But it will NOT mount,
no matter what I do. All the others work fine, even those I used when
the drive was on the SE (I didn't expect any problems with any of
them).

This cartridge hasn't been unduly abused, exposed to any temperature
extremes or anything... does anyone have an idea why this reputedly
indestructible medium might suddenly go sour on me? I have a LOT of
vital data on there, and I really don't want to revert to an expensive
data recovery service to get it off...

ANY help or suggestions would be MUCH appreciated.

Matt
mlaurenc@world.std.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: msibbern@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Sibbernsen)
Subject: Gram-mat'-ic Mac v.2.0 FOR SALE!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 21:37:27 GMT


Gram-mat'-ik Mac v.2.0 for sale $25.  Original box and all manuals. 
Includes American English Writing Guide v. 1.12

If your interested write me at msibbern@nyx.cs.du.edu.  Thanks
Michael Sibbernsen
From: shepard@sampson.ccsf.caltech.edu (Ron Shepard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Special Font Character Question
Date: 25 Jan 1993 23:55:20 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sampson.ccsf.caltech.edu


In article <25JAN199314422710@juliet.caltech.edu> wcaw@juliet.caltech.edu (Wilisch, Wolf C. A.) writes:
>Hi!
>
>I am looking for a specific character, a double arrow, with the top half 
>pointing in one direction, the bottom half in the other one.  It is a 
>frequently used symbol in chemistry, but I haven't been able to find it 
>anywhere.  I could create it as a drawing, but that's fairly inconvenient,
>especially for our secretary.
>Anyone seen a font that has something like it ?
>
>Thanks 
>
>Chris W 

The character you want is found on the Haber and Thompson fonts 
(Helvetica and Times lookalikes respectively) from 

    Allotype Typographics
    1600 Packard Road Suite 5
    Ann Arbor, MI 48104

There are also h-bars and other useful characters for scientists.
This is a type-1 postscript font (works with ATM).

Anyone have the phone number?

-Ron Shepard
shepard@tcg.anl.gov
From: perednia@sandy.ohsu.EDU (Douglas A. Perednia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Help! Mac User's Group in Lima, Ohio?
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:01:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1993Jan26.030114.29756
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University

Hi,

Could someone please tell me if there's a MUG in Lima, Ohio?  Is it called  
"Delicious Bits and Bytes", or has anyone ever heard of an organization by  
that name?

Thanks much,

Doug.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: MACE@HDQCMS2H.UTSD.ATT.COM
Subject: Re: A good CD ROM Encyclopedia ??
Organization: None
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 03:00:00 EST

In article <1993Jan27.145011.2718@news.nd.edu>
Jim Pinkelman <James.K.Pinkelman.1@nd.edu> writes:
 
>
>I work on setting up the computers for a small grade
>school and am going to buy a CD ROM Drive and an
>Encyclopedia. They don't need a particularly fast
>or fancy drive, so I'm leaning toward a NEC 74
>because its so cheap.
>
>I'm wondering about encyclopedias that come on CDs.
>
>   Are there good/bad ones?
>   Is the Toolbox (or Toolworks) one any good?
>   Can you print articles from these CDs?
>   Are there monitor requirements? (Color, 13 inch?)
>
>I'd appreciate any info or guidance in this area.
>
>Thanks in advance.
 
Groliers Multimedia encyclopedia is excellent.  It includes quicktime
movies, photos, maps, digitized audio clips and (printable) text.
 
For optimal use, you need a color Mac with a 68020 or better (to
run quicktime).
 
The provide annual updates, at a reasonable fee.
 
Hope this helps...
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mace Moneta, AT&T VM Product Engineering, Piscataway, NJ
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From: ad@dcs.st-and.ac.uk (Tony Davie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Mac Bible
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:58:58 GMT
Organization: St.Andrews University

Does anyone know if an edition of The Macintosh Bible later than the 3rd has
been or will be published? The 3rd edn. is a great book but is somewhat out-
of-date as it refers to version 6 of the system.


Tony Davie               Department of Mathematical and Computational Sciences
Tel: +44 334 76161 x8136 St.Andrews University
Fax: +44 334 77068       North Haugh
ad@dcs.st-andrews.ac.uk  St.Andrews
                         Scotland
                         KY16 9SS
From: wolf@cs.mcgill.ca (Paul McNabola)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: FTP Apple stuff to Canada?
Date: 29 Jan 93 04:24:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada


Since ftp.apple.com requests that downloads not be undertaken by out-of
US machines, does anyome out there know of a site where I could ftp
system related stuff to Canada?
Thanx in advance.
----------
Paul McNabola         wolf@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca

"Always available, never free" ---Buck Godot
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
From: bo3b@ultramac.uucp (Bob Overkamp)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:44:26 CDT
Subject: Re: Special Font Character Question

Wilisch  Wolf C. A.,wcaw@juliet.caltech.edu
inquires:
> I am looking for a specific character, a double arrow, with the top half 
> pointing in one direction, the bottom half in the other one.  It is a 
> frequently used symbol in chemistry, but I haven't been able to find it 
> anywhere.  I could create it as a drawing, but that's fairly inconvenient,
> especially for our secretary.
> Anyone seen a font that has something like it ?
> 
> Thanks 
> 
> Chris W 

This sounds like a job for MS Word 3 or later (or MS Write), which permits 
overstrikes, superscripts, subscripts and so forth in its Formula capability;
the
 Symbol font has a leftward arrow in character Option-Shift-u and a rightward
 arrow in character Option-Shift-'
perhaps you want o(*,A) where the arrows have been subscripted and
superscripted manually; or perhaps o(sdo3(*),s(A)) where the subscript and
supersc are nested within the overstrike; or maybe just s(*,A) suits you.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: Re: Sexist Pronouns
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 11:19:11 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.144844.1@tesla.njit.edu> erh0362@tesla.njit.edu (Elliotte Rusty Harold) writes:
>> 
>> The best terms are "hie" (for she/he) and "hir" (for
>> her/him), as I learned from the articles by
>> STella@xanadu.com.
>> 
>> When will _those_ pronouns have found their way to a
>> dictionary?
>
>    Hopefully never.  It's abominations like this that make people refuse to 
>take non-sexist language seriously.  It is possible to write 
>non-sexist English without making up words noone understands or using 
>ear-grating phrases like "mail person."   Normally the easiest away 
>around the difficulty is to use the plural (and non-sexist) pronouns.  Check 
>out "The HandBook of Non-Sexist Writing" for some sensible approaches that 
>don't destroy the English language.  I believe one of the authors is Kate 
>Millet, but I don't have it in front of me.

Amen to _that_ sentiment. I'm a journalism major, and one of the regular
discussions that pops up is non-sexist vs. gender-neutral language.
(BTW, try using "letter carrier", "fire fighter", and "police officer".
Work wonders.)

The only time I've _ever_ seen these supposed gender-neutral pronouns in
regular use is in a comic book (DOOM PATROL, and the character in question
was a hermaphrodite.) That's it.

Jay (=

--
   John W. "Jay" Elmore Jr. (=            Email: johnel@linfield.edu
  "Doctor Banner, I presume." -- Maestro to the Hulk, FUTURE IMPERFECT #1
  "Doctor Banner, I presume." -- Hulk to the Maestro, FUTURE IMPERFECT #1
                        ###KEEP CIRCULATING THE TAPES###
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jmg@bach.udel.edu (Jason Mich Gottshall)
Subject: Anybody know a good book?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:05:57 GMT

I've had my Mac LC for about a year and half now and have become quite
familiar with the basic usage of it. I've gotten into BBS's and the net
(obviously), and I've discovered that I know a lot less about my machine
than I thought I did. Ever since I got the thing I've been kind of miffed
about the documentation, or lack thereof. Apple doesn't tell you diddly in
the manuals they include with the machine. And there are all sorts of
exciting System 7 features that I haven't even heard of. Can anybody
suggest a good book(s) that I could find at the bookstore that might
enlighten me on the secrets of the Mac, System 7, Res Edit, programming,
and anything else fun and exciting that my machine is capable of? Thanks
for your help.

          /--------------------------------------------------------\
          |  Jason M. Gottshall   | 'Music is well said to be the  |
          |                       |  speech of angels; in fact,    |
          |  jmg@bach.udel.edu    |  nothing among the utterances  |
          |                       |  allowed to man is felt to be  |
          |    (302) 837-1211     |  so divine.'  -Thomas Carlyle  |
          \--------------------------------------------------------/
From: Don Lee <DL10@cornell.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: How to LOCK volume name?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:42:49 GMT
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cu-dialup-0112.cit.cornell.edu
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X-XXMessage-ID: <A7859DA00E02EC16@cu-dialup-0112.cit.cornell.edu>
X-XXDate: Fri, 22 Jan 93 12:48:32 GMT

As sort of a reverse spin on the frequently asked question of how
to unlock volume names, I am interested in how to intentionally
lock it without the use of filesharing.  I'd appreciate all ideas
sent to:

Don Lee (DL10@cornell.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: kevdunn@bnr.ca (Kevin Dunn)
Subject: Re: Video Spigot impressions ??
Reply-To: mstudent@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: ott
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 17:03:15 GMT

In article <C1Dqx6.2qE@world.std.com>, jbailey@world.std.com (jim bailey) writes:
|> kevdunn@bnr.ca (Kevin Dunn) writes:
|> 
|> >In article <2419@sousa.tay.dec.com>, craparotta@frside.enet.dec.com writes:
|> >|> 
|> >|> 
|> >|> 
|> >|> I'm thinking about purchasing a Super Mac Video Spigot for my Qudra900.
|> >|> 
|> >|> Can anyone give me any impressions on this setup.. Please E-mail me rather
|> >|> than hosing up the net.. Thanx!!!
|> >|> 
|> >|> -
|> >|> Joe Craparotta	Craparotta@level.dec.com
|> >|> 		--or-- ...!decwrl!level.dec.com!craparotta
|> >|> 		--or-- craparotta%level.dec@decwrl.dec.com
|> >|> 
|> >|> discalimer: The above are my Personal views and do NOT represent those of my 
|> >|> EMPLOYER.. They don't listen to me anyway.. :-))
|> 
|> >  Personaly i would go for the Radius Video Vision. It has inputs for s-video, RCA (2 sources), one stereo rca audio input, one s-video, rca output. all on a convienent patch bar.
|> 
|> >Kevin Dunn
|> >aka falcon **The electric Jet**
|> >kevdunn@bnr.ca
|> 
|> I believe that there is a significant difference in price.

point taken. if money is an object, then the spigot would do

Kevin Dunn
aka falcon **The electric Jet**
kevdunn@bnr.ca
.
From: smarks@bu.edu (Stephen Marks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: 12-year old needs help with Mac
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:05:53 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

My 12-year old nephew in Clarence, NY, has a Mac+ with an Imagewriter II.
Unfortunately, his printer stopped working.  He needs help.  Is there
anyone out there close enough to pay him a visit?  If so, leave your
name and phone number at smarks@acs.bu.edu.  Thanks.
From: Gary P. Warren <warren@tab00.larc.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Converting Iris raster images to PICT
Date: 26 Jan 1993 12:58:17 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: maccfd1.larc.nasa.gov
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X-XXMessage-ID: <A78A9F88330318C9@maccfd1.larc.nasa.gov>
X-XXDate: Tue, 26 Jan 93 12:58:00 GMT

I need a program that will convert Iris raster images to pict
files.  Currently SGI has a program called "topict" but it assumes
classic quickdraw and converts everything to 8 colors.  Is there 
a program available anywhere that will convert these images 
using more than 8 colors????  I need this to make some quicktime
movies....