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Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: RE :  Please help me find a poem/ LDR's
From: s341031@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:03:21 GMT


Good day all...........
My friend posted my this poem (that she wrote herself) about me
and my "long distance boyfriend".....We thought it was so sweet,
we decided to share it with every one else.....
(Me, being Kerryn and my SO being Geoff :-))

#################################################
Kerryn's self esteem was low,
Her lack of confidence was in tow,
She seemed so shy at first,
When really she was about to burst.

She wrote a poem to news one day,
Demeaning men, and making them pay,
Though she really didn't mean it,
It got her into a lot of shit.

For you see, a lad from Sydney,
Had a cow and broke a kidney,
Geoff wrote back with a boosting letter,
and from there things just got better.

It started as fun for they got on well,
They picked and poked and each gave hell,
Then, being only 700 kilometres apart,
Cupid's arrow hit the heart.

Being in love is hard enough,
Without the distance making it tough,
But they manage because they care,
And they save daily for their fare.

Their love indeed must be strong,
It seems that they can do no wrong,
Each call, each laugh, each letter,
Only makes it all the better.

I'm happy for them since this is rare,
To have found someone for which they can care,
Enough to spend some time and money,
To call and simply say "Hi Honey!".

Her self esteem is now sky high,
To climb it is not worth the try,
Her confidence problem of the past,
Has been defeated by love at last.

So this poem I write for the pair,
To let them both know that I care,
I only for want her to be happy,
If he does that, then that's just 'snappy'

######################################################################

It was written be Rose (Garf) :  S335024@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
So if you want her to write a poem for you I am sure she would be only
too happy to oblige :-)  (She does it so well........and she also likes
getting the mail :-))

Kerryn Pridgeon..................
s341031@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au 
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: rooneyr@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: re:there's these girls I'm inteested in..
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 17:49:48 GMT

 say hi when your in class... or "how did the test go?.... I died, I totaly
blanked out....What do we have due next week..is the test mondaay?

it is a sure fire way to get their attention
One time I was waiting for the campus shuttle bus and this guy (he was... lets
say... hansome enough to be a chipindale) was standing there.. I thought, I
gotta say hi or something.. what do I say??/ Ohmy god he's gorgious!
He was smushing the snow with his feet absent mindedly.. I just walked uup to
him and said "that's not going to make it go away any faster..." he looked
up alitttle embarassed,, with a big knock out smile  on his face.
I nnever went ooout with him..he had a girlfrend but it was worth  it
he still talks to me around campuss...

but you never can tell!

wildfire
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: ggraham@utkvx.utk.edu 
Subject: Songs about Jodi.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:16:00 GMT


I'm in love with a girl named Jodi.  Does anyone out there know of any good
love songs that invoke her name?

Please reply via e-mail to GGRAHAM@utkvx.utk.edu

Thanks.
From: CE42@lafibm.lafayette.edu (CE42000)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: RE: The virtues of internet
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:32:30 GMT
Organization: Lafayette College
Originator: news@lafcol

In article <Bx9AoJ.C5F@news.cso.uiuc.edu> fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (J. Fippen) writes:
>rtues of internet.................
>
>Many people using internet today don't realize the many virtues of
>internet. It is the only way all people of the world can have instant access
>to a geat many people of other races, cultures, etc. I've communicated
>with people in uk, nz, au, nepal, and many other places; you've probably
>done the same. Internet is SO fast; think of getting a message to some-
>one else in less than a second!! It's inconceivable!!  Yet we take it as a
>matter of fact. I think all edu's have free access to internet while
>commercial firms pay dearly for the priviledge. And all students, facualty,
>and edu employees have free access; it's a "perk" of their profession.
>And a wonderful thing it is to have an internet account. Some few people,
>like me, pay for their account and even I am lucky because there are
>millions of people out there who can READ internet but not post; there-
>fore we are major players in this scheme of things and we should all be
>thankful for our opportunity.
> Now what, pray tell, does this have to do with alt.romance? Well,
>two hearts can touch over  internet even though the people are many
>miles apart. And isn't alt.romance about the touching of hearts? It is to
>me, and I see no virtue in all this gutter talk about sizes, fat guys,
>use of the "f" word, etc; this bbs is about dating, love, commitment,
>romantic nights, the proper atmosphere for love et al. And we should
>keep it that way before we are all summarily dropped off the net.
> From a senior member of RFA     John Fippen
>.

Oh how right you are....  we can always count on the ever prophetic
John Fippen for his words of wisdom.
Thank you John.
Emily
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:27:12 EST
From: Stacy Elwood <SXE105@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Lost in thoughts...
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov06.202459.19480@microsoft.com>, bassama@microsoft.com (Bassam
Abukarroum) says:
>
>
>As a result of a bad relationship about two years ago, I intentionally
>closed my heart to any sort of romance. I thought that would save me from
>any pain and suffering....>All of a sudden, about two months ago I met her.
>She managed to open my heart on the first time we went out.  She said she
>wasn't ready for a serious relationship at this point. I respected her wishes
>and proceeded on that. But, ....I opened up too much too soon without
>realizing it. This scared her away and now she thinks I'm pushing her into a
>a relationship....>which of course are not my intentions. It's just that I
>really care deeply about her, and would give my life to make her happy.
>We now have sometime off to think things over, but what's killing me is that
>I'm a slave to my thoughts at this time. Everytime I think of something to
>convince her to see the real me, I back off as a result of my thoughts.
>"Don't do it...that will just show her how pushy you are." I still send her
>flowers and leave them on her car. I asked her if she minds me doing this
>and she said no. It's just I miss her so much it hurts so bad and don't know
>what to do to fix what I damaged.           Sam
>
   Sam...I saw that no one else had responded to you, yet, and I think I might
be able to help.  I've been in similar situations (haven't we all?), I've been
on both ends.  What I've found works is that if you really care about her, you
need to SHOW her you care, not just tell her you care and buy her things
(although, those both help, too...)  The key is in sincerity.  Tell her you
care enough about her to wait for her until she's ready for a relationship.
Be careful to let HER decide when the time is right, though, or she'll back out
and you'll get hurt.  Probably the best thing that you can do for her is to
show her that you'll be there to support her through the good times AND the bad
Or at least, that's what usually does it for me...   Stacy   Good Luck.
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: letters, opinions, women, romance
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:25:20 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <Bx8GBn.DHF@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bzb47596@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Phaedrus) writes:
>I am interested in knowing the opinions of a.r men and women on the effective-
>ness and usefulness of writing letters (man-->woman, or woman-->man) because
>I have found myself spilling my guts a lot more often in letters than in
>person.
>
>Its not that I hide behind writing letters or anything.  Sometimes its a 
>physical seperation that causes the letter, sometimes its just a need to 
>express myself in a more rigid media than a conversation.  With some women
>I find it hard to move the topic away from mundane things to 'deep' things
>and a letter provides me a place where i can be open and honest and complete
>about my emotions, and she can't shrug it off or change the subject like
>might happen in a conversation.  It also allows me more of a chance to gather
>my complete feelings than trying to remember everything I wanted to say in
>the heat of a conversation.
>
>So what's the viewpoint out there?
>
Letters are a good way of getting to know a friend. But I think they
are a bad way of expressing feelings, because they are so limited.
You only get the words and not the tone, or body language. And 
feedback from the other person takes days instead of seconds.

Letters can be a good place to elaborate, but I wouldn't use them
to announce anything important, especially anything the receiver
would interpret as bad news.

Michael.
From: v051pzlm@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (YUGI MORIMOTO)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: a question for the ladies
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:25:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41




I just got a quick question that i would ask you ladies to
 answer honestly....



                  What's your thoughts/feelings/impressions 
                   of Asian men and romance?

    all responses are welcome

Yugi V051pzlm@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu

thanks
From: z_arthurjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: H*ll of a situation!
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:30:18 GMT
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

I haven't met a nice young woman to have a rewarding relationship
with in over two years.  Love just isn't on my side.  I'm sort of shy
around women but I don't think that's the main problem.  People
have given me a number of answers to this situation.  
Among them are:

1.  I'm too nice of a guy and I should start being more of a bastard.
  
2.  There are no really nice women around anymore.

3.  Women think my personality is to good to be true.

4.  Because of my good looks and personality, women assume that
    I'm already taken.(Don't laugh...I've actually been told this
    by some of them)

This is one h*ll of a situation to be in!
What, if anything, can I do to get out of this predicament?
This is not a joke! I'm serious.

Jay
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: petitc@jec324.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: childish guys - what about girls
Reply-To: petitc@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:02:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.011109.1794@jetsun.weitek.COM>, weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov10.041623.2147@geovision.gvc.com> barry@geovision.gvc.com (Barry Comer) writes:
|> >All this talk about childish guys is all well and fine, but what about the
|> >women of the world.  I for one find a slight childish streak(not a brat type
|> >of thing, but youthful) in a lady rather refreshing.  What about it folks?

  Personally, I prefer a woman to be versitile---if she's just a tomboy, it's
not attractive, nor is it if she's a wallflower---I like people closer to the
middle, or who can swing any which way but loose  :&)

-- 
Trust:  A very precious social commodity, due both to high value and terrible
scarcity.
MATWDTM:  Mothers Against Teenagers Who Drink Too Much (failed name for MADD)
From: nxie@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Nandi Xie)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Help Needed
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:15:45 GMT
Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens


I have been waiting for the Mr. Right for a long time.
Then it came this guy I met in school. We became good
friends. Then he moved to some other state. We've
exchanged emails, and we've talked quite a bit. I find
that I'm really involed. But the problem is, he is 
married and he has a child. So I never tell him what I
am feeling. Yet I am affraid that our friendship would
affect their merriage. Anybody has any suggestions? I
am really confused in this situation.
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: letters, opinions, women, romance
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:24:59 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)

ci022@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Kirby) writes:


>I can't think on my feet.  I like sending letters because they give me time
>organize my thoughts. Word processors are great: I can write everything
>out in whatever order it occurs to me then rearrange things and
>delete things that are off the subject.  But for maximum personal
>impact letters should be handwritten (legibly).  Am I the only one
>who spends hours with a word processor then copies out the final
>product by hand?

Well, I can think on my feet, but I have a hell of a time writing my
thoughts down legibly with any speed.  I also can type a hell of a lot
faster than I can write.  As a result, I do exactly what you do.  I
take my Powerbook outside, sit under a tree, and type away.  Sometimes
it'll take me a week to compose everything I want to say (I often
write fairly long letters, around 10 handwritten pages), and get it in
the order I want.  I add paragraphs, delete paragraphs, rearrange
thoughts, and condense and rephrase things a half-dozen times before I
consider it finished.  It's also easier to continue without finding
the right word, and come back to insert it later.  I then spend 3
hours copying the final version to paper.

Sometimes I just whip out a one-two page note, and those I often don't
edit first, but for longer correspondence, I like to have a chance to
review it first.

I have a lot of friends who are not on the net, nor do they use
computers.  It would feel really "cold" to send them something
typewritten.  Even though the amount of time spent is nearly the same,
there is a lot more of yourself invested in a handwritten letter.

For all the people I know who *are* on the net, I usually just type
away.  With them though, it is just an slightly different form of
conversation.  Handwritten letters are a different form of
communication to me.  More intimate, and more permanent.  I dread
using the wrong phrase, or saying something I don't really mean. It's
a lot harder to deny later :-).

--
Ken Wallich
wallich@ncd.com  
ken@wallich.com
From: casey@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Sean Casey GSFC (301)286-4558)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Attention Advice Givers (ie HELP)
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:53:00 GMT
Organization: NASA/GSFC-Laboratory for Astronomy and Solar Physics
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <0096340D.A302FE60@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes...
>In article <1992Nov4.230117.27270@jetsun.weitek.COM>, weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver) writes:
>>In article <Bx6F6q.n4J@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlamb@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey Richard Lamb) writes:
>>>
>>>Situation : Ok I met this girl over the net. 
>>....
>>>
>>>The point : What I need help with is this. 
>>>	1) Do I try to "push" the relationship? 
>>>
>>>  .....
>>
>>A relationship is not a car. You don't steer it, you lead it. You should
>>have an idea of which direction you want the relationship to go so that
>>you can gently nudge it that way.
>>
>I love all these verbs;  relationships are not to be "pushed," "steering,"
>"floating," "leading," and "nudging."  Just what are we trying to accomplish?
> 
>Whatever happened to letting Nature take its course?
> 
>Cheryl

Isn't this the difference between men and women. Men are entrusted with 
the responsibility of taking charge in a relationship. In particular,
it's men that always (ah, mostly) make the first move. Women, on the other
hand, assume a passive role and take or refuse offers as they come.
I don't think nature has a course in regard to relationships. It's
only from the female perspective that "pushing" and "nudging" seem
un-unatural. 

SC
From: 01ksdavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rebel without a clue.)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: letters, opinions, women, romance
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:03:59 GMT
Organization: The Corporation.

In article <Bx8GBn.DHF@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, bzb47596@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Phaedrus) writes:
> I am interested in knowing the opinions of a.r men and women on the effective-
> ness and usefulness of writing letters (man-->woman, or woman-->man) because
> I have found myself spilling my guts a lot more often in letters than in
> person.
	Guess that means I can contribute my two cents. 
> Its not that I hide behind writing letters or anything.  Sometimes its a 
> physical seperation that causes the letter, sometimes its just a need to 
> express myself in a more rigid media than a conversation.  With some women
> I find it hard to move the topic away from mundane things to 'deep' things
> and a letter provides me a place where i can be open and honest and complete
> about my emotions, and she can't shrug it off or change the subject like
> might happen in a conversation.  It also allows me more of a chance to gather
> my complete feelings than trying to remember everything I wanted to say in
> the heat of a conversation.
> 
> So what's the viewpoint out there?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Phaedrus - Master of the Tao of Pooh             internet: phaedrus@uiuc.edu 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>      "The intelligent man finds almost everything ridiculous,
>       the sensible man hardly anything."   --Goethe
-- 
	Well, this girl and I have been having almost all of our really "deep"
discussions over the email lines, simply because whenever we are together, tons
of my friends are also there, and I think we both hate having an audience.

	You are not chicken for having these discussions over letters, but 
maybe a bit shy.  That's okay, though, if you convey your feelings of this
person to this person over letters.

	I have a question you don't have to answer, but what do you do if she
tries to bring up "deep" discussion in a conversation?  You know, like asking
the ever-popular "What are you thinking, dear?" or other stuff like that?

	There is also some truth to what can be said over letters and what
really can't be said in a conversation (unless you believe soap operas are an
accurate portrayal of real life.)  And that truth is that the letters can be
more romantic than just conversation.

	If you don't believe me, check out some of the love letters in Shelby
Foote's _The Civil War_.  There is some pretty heart-melting stuff in there.

	Anybody else have any thing to contribute?

 ______________________________________________________________________________
|Kyle S. Davis
From: The Golden Eagle
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: hugs, kisses and other indoor sports
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:28:00 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

The other evening, while with my S.O. I realized just how any different ways
someone can kiss... My question for all of you out there is...  What type of 
kiss do you enjoy most?  -O.K. so it's an open-ended question... humor me. 
All other aspects are equal (* the person kissing you is the one person that you
would most want to be kissed by *) be frank, but please be honest!


		-some like it hot
		 	and some sweat when the heat is on...


				-*-The Golden Eagle-*-
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow)
Subject: Re: Falling in love via phone?
Reply-To: dks@srhqla.UUCP (Dave K. Sprow)
Organization: Silent Radio, Los Angeles
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:26:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.214444.14923@cognet.ucla.edu> pablo@cognet.ucla.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.204108.3155@cognet.ucla.edu>  
>pablo@eye1.cognet.ucla.edu (Pablo Lapuerta) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov5.164359.44445@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>  
>> sbecker@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>> > 
>> > I hope all of you folks out there will give me some feedback on the  
>> situation I
>> > find myself in.  I met someone via alt.personals (I am somewhat  
>> embarrassed to
>> > admit) and we've been conducting epic phone calls for the past three  
>> weeks. 
>> > The conversations have heated up, become quite intimate, with each of  
>us
>> > sharing secret fears and hoped, even having phone sex the last few  
>times
>> > (blush)
>> > 
>> > What I want to know is do you think it's possible to fall in love on  
>the  
>> phone?

Honestly, no.  No matter how intimate you may be over the phone and/or
how much you share with each other, there are just *too* many aspects
of each other that you don't know yet.  Plus, in the "infatuation/lust"
etc phase that often characterizes the early stage of s relationship and
which is *often* mistaken for love, it's almost impossisble to know if
you love the person at that point.  there's just too much of the "limerance"
feelings I mentioned above to know. The only way to really know is over
time.  Love is a lot of things, like planning finances, (often) raising
children and saving for their education. etc.etc. I'm sure you  get the
idea.  The stage you're in can be a precursor to a deeper, more meaningful
love so I certainly wouldn't say to *not* do it.  Hey, it's *lots* of
fun.  But I would suggest enjoying it for what it is *now* and not put
any undo expectations on it for the future.  If you both agree to this
I would imagine that a) it would take some pressure of both of you and b)
there's likely to be less hurt if the long run doesn't pan out.

Bottom line:  I just don't think it's possible to make a descent judgement
call about a relationship until you guys have spend *lots* of time together
(like say, a year).  Before, that it's shooti' craps, and those odds
aren't good. Some people luck out, but it's certainly not the majority.
The problem is at the early stage most us feel it's worth the "gamble".
It's only much later that we often regret it.  As in gambling, the
question may be, how much can you afford to lose (emotionally)?


>> >  Or am I/are we delusing ourselves?  He's visiting me here in Kansas  
>> from Utah
>> > this weekend and I'm nervous, anxious, excited . . .any  
>advice/feednack  
>> on this
>> > subject?  I'm new to the net and haven't even met *friends* this way  
>> before.
>> > 
>> > Wish us luck!b1
>
>How did the weekend go?  Did things work out between the two of you?

David S.


Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles
From: dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow)
Subject: Re: Being Alone?
Reply-To: dks@srhqla.UUCP (Dave K. Sprow)
Organization: Silent Radio, Los Angeles
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:19:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.022755.17214@microsoft.com> allanl@microsoft.com (Allan Lockridge) writes:
>What is the longest period of time between boyfriend/girlfriend?
>Basically, I am interested in what is considered a normal length
>of time after one breaks up to when a new boy/girlfriend is found.
>
There's no rules here, meaning "normal" doesn't apply.  ABout the only thing
that one could say is that according to most experts (mostly psychologists)
is that when a meaningful relationship ends and the grieving process is
gone through, if done 'successfully' (resolve the loss), that this is
6 months to a year process.  Then one could be ready for a new raltionship.

How long it takes after that depends on too many factors to make any
meaningful statement about, IMO.



>
> Allan
>-- 
>Allan Lockridge -- Allanl

David S.


Newsgroups: alt.romance