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From: yenchee@csie.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Re: Supra
Organization: Computer Science & Information Engin., Chiao-Tung U, Taiwan, ROC
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 08:48:22 GMT

Thor Hallen (thorh@sail.LABS.TEK.COM) wrote:
: Intel 9600EX. The Supra will not connect reliably with about 25% of
: the modems I have tried. These are modems that the Intel has never
: had a problem with. Supra's standard explanation is "bad lines". This
: doesn't explain why the Intel will connect when the Supra fails.
   The Intel 9600EX is a V.32 modem.  The line quality should be more high
when you need more high speed.  Don't forget Supra is a V.32bis modem.  I
used to have a GVC V.32/V.42 modem.  The Supra work very fine if the line is
clear.  Even the line is poor, I can slow down the speed of Supra.  Mostly,
my GVC can only connect to 4800bps, my Supra works for 7200bps very well.
By the way, which ROM version do you use?  The old rom of Supra has many
bugs.  1.200C has been much improved.

: The problems seem common to all modems that use the Rockwell chipset.
   I don't agree.  I've disassembled an Intel 14.4EX before.  It's also made
by the Rockwell chipset.  If you like the Intel, the chipset isn't the problem.

: Ironically, the Supra has difficulty connecting to another Supra.
: I can connect to the Supra BBS with the Intel at 9600bps but need to
: slow the Supra to 4800bps to make a connection. If a connection is
: made, the Supra is more sensitive to line noise than the Intel and
: exhibits lockups and disconnects. If I make additional purchases,
: they will be Zyxel.
   The Supra's BBS has a very badly line, but I don't think this test is fair.
Because the Supra's BBS is 7 lines autoswitchable, it means that the two modem
could connect two lines.  Even the BBS is only 1 line, the routing path isn't
necessary to be the same.  Therefore, the test means nothing.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: gagnon@aix1.uottawa.ca (Jean-Serge Gagnon 564-7183)
Subject: Re: Dallas Fax 14.4 Pro Plus modem problems
Organization: Computing & Comm. Services, University of Ottawa
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 14:09:15 GMT

In article <1a7broINN5pa@gershwin.crhc.uiuc.edu> impact@crhc.uiuc.edu (Temporary Account for HP visitors) writes:
>Did anyone notice that Dallas Fax has stopped advertising in computer
>shopper.... I wonder why....

Yes, I did notice, they don't sell direct anymore. You can only buy a Dallas
Fax modem via "ATEL COMPUTER SYSTEMS" now. I called them (800-288-1985) or
214-690-8406 from Canada and found this out. I guess Dallas-Fax couldn't
handle the demand? Anyone ever buy anything from this company, or is it just
Dallas-Fax disquised? I am interested because when the 2496VC was advertised
at $149 I thought I'd order one, but they were B/Od for 2 months, and I 
waited. Now that all this has happened, I wonder if I can trust this "NEW"
company.

Anyone have info on this? Anyone buy this modem? Anyone have any suggestions
for me? The modem is now $199, it has voice/DTMF/fax/data/callerID with
software included. Anyone have a better buy?

Thanks.
-- 
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From: hwstock@snll-arpagw.llnl.gov (stockman harlan w)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 14400bps throuhput
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:22:54 GMT
Organization: Sandia National Labs, Livermore, CA

Recently I said:

>>When I download files from bulletin boards, I rarely get above 1420 cps (for 
>>highly compressed files; ymodem-g transfers are trivially faster). The 
>

I got the response:

>When downloading files that are already compressed, V42bis compression will
>not gain you anything. All 'air' in your files has already pushed out.
>
[...]

>1420 bytes / second is not that bad on a 14400 baud line (which transfers
>at most 1440 bytes per second!)
>

I was under the impression that mnp and V.42 / LAPM did not need to
transmit stop/start bits, since they can transmit data in synchronous
mode. That would yield 14400/8 cps minus overhead of a few percent. I'm
not expecting > 1435cps due to compression; I'm expecting it from bit
economy.

If I'm mistaken on this point, I would appreciate hearing the straight
poop. Like I said, I'm a novice, and the world of modems seems full of
arcane info.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: johnson@tigger.jvnc.net (Steven L. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Hayes Press Release: High-Density Rack Communications System
Originator: johnson@tigger.jvnc.net
Organization: JvNCnet
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:49:10 GMT

tnixon@hayes.com writes:

>                                              FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
>                                                        H-2492===AT
changed +'s to ='s, just in case somebody has a problem........^^^^^

Many words come to mind, but education is not one of them.

-Steve
From: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us (Eric S Johansson)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Shunning proprietary modems (was: Re: Zoom vs Supra v
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:03:20 GMT
	<1992Sep28.162155.606@wstar.mixcom.com>
	<1992Sep28.205809.26994@news.csd.sgi.com>
Reply-To: esj@harvee.billerica.ma.us
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

In <1992Sep28.205809.26994@news.csd.sgi.com>, Kevin Brokaw writes:
>I know of at least 3 other manufacturers that are simply sitting on 
>their hands, waiting for Rockwell to resolve the problem.

I believe Zoom is one of those manufacturers because I have a zoom 
V.32bis modem (-fax) and it is a great v.32 modem :-(  I have
tried connecting to a bunch of V.32bis sites with no luck.  I
get only one site in 10 to connect at V.32bis speeds.  I suspected
my house wiring and so I ran 30ft of silver satin to the NI on the
outside of my house and it made no difference.  The only time I had
any luck was when I brought my modem into work and used it via the PBX.
Then most of my connections worked.  I am highly annoyed.  If anyone
has any suggestions, I would appreciate it.

--- eric
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From: chris@ceco.ceco.com (Chris Icide)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Is the Supra BBS down?
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:35:21 GMT
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co.


I haven't had a problem connecting with with the Supra BBS, except for an
annoying problem that occurs about 10% of the time.  If I connect with DTE   
speed locked higher than 9600, I will connect with a 14400 carrier, lapm.   
However sometimes through the call, the modems will retrain to 12000 bps,
and at that point, my modem will drop into local command mode after every 
two thirds of a screen or so.  I have to issue ATO commands to return online-
for about two thirds of a screen (that is)  ;)

If I lock my DTE at 9600 with N0 set, I have no problem whatsoever.  Since
all I am doing is reading text, 9600 isn't so bad.  I have connected with
other supra modems without this problem.  I have not experienced any of the
other bugs noted on c.d.m.  Oh, btw, i have been able to get something out
of the 1.2G roms "caller id".  As for what I get, I haven't been too 
successful in decoding it.

							Chris
           
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: Hayes Ultra 144 modem fares poorly in MacUser tests
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:19:44 GMT

zeke@fasttech.uucp (Bohdan Tashchuk) writes:
>I was astonished and amused when I read the review of V.32bis modems in
>November's MacUser magazine. Out of 12 modems, the Hayes came in next-to-last
>overall.
>My conclusion is that Dennis Hayes and the suits he employs should pay more
>attention to competing thru innovation and less attention to competing thru
>FUD and intimidation.
*----
I think you're jumping to conclusions.  I don't like Hayes' current
marketing approach.  But MacUser, PC World, et. al. don't always
run tests the same way I would, and may end up with results that
don't reflect real world conditions.
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: lawrence@combdyn.CombDynLtd.MedicineHat.AB.CA (Lawrence Chen)
Subject: Re: T3000 ring detection
Organization: Combustion Dynamics Ltd.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:14:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.161355.15360@nwnexus.WA.COM> edm@halcyon.com (Ed Morin) writes:
>mrh@newshub.sdsu.edu (Mike Halderman) writes:
>
>>We have a phone system that uses two short rings to indicate an incoming call
>>from outside our system.  The T3000 does not see this as a RING.  It works ok
>>for local calls that have a longer ring.  Does anybody know of a fix?
>
>My wife just went through this at Boeing.  The fix is to change the PBX and
>have it use a "normal" ring or use an "older" generation of Telebit modems
>like a T-2500.  I don't think Telebit has a "fix" for this problem yet...
>
How short is the "two short rings"?  I haven't had any problems with either
my FAX machine or my Worldblazer on my phone lines, which both do just
two short rings instead of the normal longer ring.  Both answer right after
the first of the two short rings.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: mjliu@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Hmm..Hmm?..Hmm!)
Subject: HOW to download files with sz/zmodem??
Organization: Dep. Computer Science & Engin. of Chiao Tung Univ., Taiwan, ROC
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 14:11:45 GMT





Hi there,

I have trouble downloading text/binary files with sz.  This is how 
I did it:  at unix I type "sz filename" and then press alt-r at local PC telix
program to start receiving, a zmodem window then appears on the screen:
it says "waiting for file..." but just stuck there.. after a few seconds
the last error/status line says: TIME OUT and the whole thing just stuck
there.  not a single byte is transferred, not even the filename i guess.

so dowould someone please show me how to correct this prooblem?  is there
something i missed in the procedure?  any additional paarameters to preset
at either local telix program or remote host??  I would appreciate any help
from
you.  PLEASE EMAIL YOUR REPLY TO ME PERSONALLY.

sincerely yours,

Kevin Liao

mjliu@ccsun14.csie.nctu.edu.tw
From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: USR
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:06:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS-UUCP


I need to turn off CRC-32 Error Correction and I want to use CRC-16, how
can I do that with an INIT string.  Someone Help.  This is for the
USRobitics DS 14.4K.  Thanks.
                                                                                     
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: phillipv@engin.umich.edu (Phillip Van Baren)
Subject: Re: Good, cheap 14.4K modems (UK)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:04:32 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Sep29.091503.26302@cs.hw.ac.uk> scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk (Scott Dunn) writes:
>Hi,
>
>I don't know if my first post got through, apologies if it did.
>
>As you have gathered from the title, I am looking for a "good, cheap
>14.4K modem".
>
>Computer Shopper (UK) recently ran a review of modems sub 1000 pounds
>(my budget is closer to 400 pounds) in which they looked at the Image
>Twincom (14.4K, V42bis, fax etc).  They said it was excellent value
>but was liable to dropping speed to 9600 moer often than not.
>
>Does anyone have an opinion on this modem?  Or, can you recommend an
>alternative around the 3-400 pound mark.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Scott.

I have been using a Twincom 144/DFi for a couple of weeks now.  I connect at
14400 all of the time at a local number that I call a lot.  I called long
distance to the same board twice (I forget which state) and connected at 14400
once and 9600 once.  It has worked very well for my limited uses, but I have
yet to try the auto-answer, and FAX capabilities.

I have not seen very many remarks about this modem on this board.  This must
mean one of three things:

   1)  The modem works so well that no-one has any problems with it,
   2)  Nobody out there has a Twincom modem, or
   3)  The modems never work, and the people who own them are not able to
       connect to send stuff to this board.

Which is it?  I can only take heart that there is not a wealth of complaints
about it like there is about the Supra modems (and power supplies.)
I am very curious what kinds of problems (and solutions) to
expect from this modem.  Does anyone else out there have this type of modem?

Philip VanBaren
phillipv@caen.engin.umich.edu

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From:  "Yuri Derbin" <derbin>
Subject: Re: taping modem signals
Originator: derbin@cit.dubna.su
Keywords: record modem audio
Reply-To: derbin
Organization: Compass Information Tech. Ltd.
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 16:46:38 GMT


rorem@bert.eecs.uic.edu writes:
>I'm wondering if there are devices available (or which can be built)
>that would enable one to tape audio on a telephone line containing

 In fact what you need is a device that would allow to get signal frequency from
 telephone line .Such device is very primitive and was developed in Russia 
 and called modem Lexand TS2400 .It's not a modem in the usual meaning of 
 this word because its output (to PC) not a byte and more than that - not a bit.
 Its output is a frequency from line.Driver for this device trancforms
 those frequencies to bits ,then to bytes  etc. With this device
 I've got many information about  telephone lines,modem to modem handshaking,
 fax protocols etc.Lexand TS2400 you can buy in Russia for 6000 roubles
 (about 25 $ USA today).I can give you some advice about usage of this device.

 	With best regards.

		    Yuri Derbin.

E-mail address: derbin@cit.dubna.su	
 
 

Xref: sparky comp.dcom.modems:14498 biz.comp.telebit:949
From: john@jwt.UUCP (John Temples)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems,biz.comp.telebit
Subject: Re: USR DS v.32bis 10-15% faster thoughput over the Worldblazer
Date: 4 Oct 92 08:24:42 GMT
Organization: Private system -- Orlando, FL

In article <BvKCCC.3GB@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>I just scanned my logs -- 1100-1200 cps using v.32bis on the WB
>against 1420-1450 cps on the USR v.32bis for yesterdays calls
>(again using uucp-g).

You must have something set up wrong...I get 1350-1400 cps with uucp
g(64,7) on the WB at V.32bis without spoofing.  Do you have all
compression turned off for uucp connections?  I found that helped
throughput quite a bit.
-- 
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                -- Alternate:  john@jwt.oau.org
From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Any comments on Lightning v32bis modems?
Date: 23 Sep 92 20:27:57 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.


Personally I'd buy a modem from the US, but an co-worker wants
to buy one here in the UK.  Best price we've seen is $UK229 for a
Lightning.  I've never heard of it.  Any major drawbacks, or
is it just another generic Rockwell with no distinguishing features?

Thanks

G
PS Followups along the lines of 'I have just the thing for you ... Digicom
Scout ... Supra ...' etc not really desired.  I know all about
them already, at length.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jmalloy@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Joseph Malloy)
Subject: Re: Dilemma!!!
Organization: Hamilton College - Clinton, NY
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 22:22:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.184039.7062@iscsvax.uni.edu> eadie5295@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>
>Say there was someone looking for a 14.4 Internal Fax/Modem, and there were a
>few options:
>
>  Gateway Telepath    $195   (may take awhile to deliver, short warranty)
>  Infotel 144DF       $199   (fax may not work all that well, 10 yr warranty)
>  USR Sportster       $299   (USR quality, 5 yr warranty)
>  ZyXEL 1496B         $349   (ZyXEL quality, extras like voice, ? warranty)
>
>  Are there any modem users out there who would have some advice as to whether
>the USR and ZyXEL models would be worth the extra cost?  (BTW: The Infotel 144DF
>and the Twincom 144F are the exact same thing, just different name.)

I can comment only about the Telepath, having tried two (first was dead)
and having returned it for a refund just a few days ago.  The Telepath
that worked was not able to handle Kermit file transfers (the only thing
currently supported on our Unix box) without generating thousands (yes!)
of errors for even a rather small transfer.  Gateway tech support
acknowledged this problem and said there was no fix.  A Gateway support
person on BIX (id: twaitt) also noted that the Telepath cannot,
apparently, send a break signal and that a fix for that may involve
exchange of hardware (if, I hope, they do fix it at all).  I also could
not get the Telepath to connect to our campus modem bank, which uses
Hayes Ultras, at anything above 2400 bps.  I finally gave up and bought
a Practical Peripherals PM14400FX internal which has its own on board
16550 UART (which really does do wonders for me when multi-tasking!).

Unless your needs are very modest, I would suggest skipping the Telepath
(although I am otherwise a very content Gateway 2000 customer).

Joe
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:30:00 EDT
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: USR sportster conversion announcement.

In article <BvHLJB.M9s@fc.hp.com>, jsm@fc.hp.com says:

>Mark Buda (hermit@dastari.uucp) wrote:
>:
>: I would be very interested to find out how modem firmware can inflict
>: irreparable damage to anybody's hard drive.
>:
>        talking about 80x86 assembly here!).

Hmm, I thought the USR's use a 80186. Maybe my memory is faulty...
From: inunn@hpb.hwc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: TIES (and T. Nixon)
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:07:33 GMT
Organization: Health and Welfare, Canada

On rereading T. Nixon's original post, I still find nothing to distance
himself from the press release as some followup posters suggest should be
understood. I also understand why he would not do so if he were so inclined
- and I would certainly accept that he might very much wish to. I value
his presence on the net.  There are few such willing and technically
knowlegeable people so available.  One item from my earlier post which has
been lost in the smoke and flames is a request for information on the TIES
issue.  I don't understand it, but would like to.  Please Mr. Niixon could
you again enlighten us (me) on the technical (I could care less about the
legal and political) aspects of this issue.  Again I do really value your
input.  Thanks

Ian Nunn
From: ja2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jinmo Ahn)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Delrina BBS
Date: 27 Sep 92 05:32:20 GMT
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Does anyone know what the phone number to Delrina's(DosFax/WinFax) BBS is?

Supposely, I can get the patch named DFX01.ZIP to fix my supra modem problem.

Jinmo
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jeh@raster.kodak.com (Ed Hanway)
Subject: Re: USR sportster conversion announcement.
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company, Digital Systems Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 14:36:59 GMT

Lets see, first Hayes posts a press TIES release that, in many opinions, is
misleading, insulting, and fearmongering.  Not do be outdone, USR
posts a Sportster press release that, in many opinions, is misleading,
insulting, and fearmongering.  Really makes one proud of these innovative US
companies and their legal departments who are pioneering the field of pissing
off modem users.  Surely Intel, Supra, and others will have to respond in
kind or risk losing all that potential customer animosity.

--
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From: teodor@proxxi.se (Teodor V{{n{nen (proxxi))
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: WANTED: MNP Information
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:49:20 GMT
Organization: proxxi


Hi there!

Excuse me for any crap postings from me that might have occured on this group,
I had a little trouble learning the 'postnews' function on the Emacs program
I use.

I wonder if there's anyone who has a list over companies that manufacture 
MNP IC's. Any source code that generates MNP comatilbe code (mail ftp site or
suorce (if it's not to big)) is also welcome (I have a USART capable of almost
anything). If you mail MNP IC info please include following:

-Circuit name
-Approx. price (USD)
-Max I/O speed (bits/s)
-Clock speed
-Company name, address and telephone number

If you have data sheets on a  circuit, and want to share that info with me,
mail me!

Teodor
 
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: yik1351@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Ernest Yik)
Subject: Re: lots of ZyXEL users?
Reply-To: yik1351@cucsd.cuhk.hk
Organization: Computer Science Department, Chinese University of Hong Kong
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:43:12 GMT

yenchee@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Yeng-Chee Su) writes:

>The local BBS player told me that the ZyXEL has few users overseas. 
>Does there anyone can give me a conception about the acceptation of ZyXEL
>overseas?

	We at Hong Kong have about 100 BBSs running with ZyXEL modems (a
very rough estimate) and many many BBS users here are using them too.

Regards,
Ernest Yik.
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: Replacing UART
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:47:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.230114.21356@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
somerist@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jussi T Someristo) writes:

>	However there is one problem: there are two socketed 40-pin
>	chips on my serial/parallel adapter card:

>	  - CIC83450AE		<< this is your UART, looks like a 16450
>	  - 8750-BT / UM82C11	<< this is your parallel/glue

>	Just wondering which one _is_ the UART chip ...
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