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From: koswatta@bgsu.edu (Sunil Koswatta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: New low for 76ers
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:22:27 GMT
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.


In article <167C49820.EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu> EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu writes:
...
>Mark Aguirre gave the Pistons 22 points with 9-12 FG and 2-4 FT and 2-3 3PG.
>So much for being paid to miss.
>
>--Eric
>Philadelphia is below .500, so no woofs from me.

I am not too happy to disagree with you Eric, but
this is definitely a flash in the pan. 

May be, just may be "he had the game of his life".

Gee.. I feel bad.  I am just beginning to sound
like one of those stat boys. :-)
From: u_nique@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jerray Wei)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: NBA Most Improved Player
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:32:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: jhunix.1992Apr7.213246.22093
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

In article <1992Apr3.224130.16365@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jeff Hawkins) writes:
>Well, since the rest of you all can talk about your thoughts on NBA's Most
> Improved Player, here are my thoughts on who will and will not take it.
>
>Drazen Petrovich: He's always been an All-Star calliber player and should
>have been named to this year's squad. But he was awesome last year also.
>He and the other foriegn players are supposed to be the best, that's why
>they're allowed to play here, no dice.

Always been an all-star caliber player?  I don't think so.  This season he
has improved enough to be a good candidate for this, but it's still all
offense.

>Tim Perry (yeah suns) and Pervis Ellison: were lottery selections, so they're
>only doing what was asked of them, survey says XXX

The award doesn't check your history...it compares one season against the
other.  Tim Perry improved, but Ellison jumped to elite status, and I think
he'll end up winning the award.

>John Starks: Has played like a man possessed this year!
>Antoine Carr: Have made the Spurs more of a contender after slumping with
>Sacremento
>Kevin Willis: 'Nuff said
>Orlando Woolridge: Not given his due
>Andrew Lang: Has come on as an intimidating center, capable of actually blocking,
> not fouling, even scoring
>or even....
>Dan Majerle: After being robbed of the 6th man award, he has become
> an all-star swingman who puts up 20+ a game
>And an early favorite for coach of the year: Larry Brown

Starks turned from nobody to somebody, but it's not enough of a jump.  Carr
got worse, what are you talking about?  He was scoring > 20 ppg in Sacramento
and he's been pretty inconsistent so far.  Kevin Willis is probably going
to come in second to Ellison.  Lang hasn't improved that much, he just starts
now.  Majerle hasn't improved that much either, but he might get that 6th
man award.  As for coach of the year, the Travelin' Man won't win any awards
unless he actually does something.  Clips are only playing to potential.
Pat Riley is probably the favorite for that award.
From: afcanav@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (VIC CANACCI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: RE: Dee Brown
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:33:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims01.15APR199215333732
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

> 
>about this year a lot of things will have in to place just right 
fro the Celtics to win the championship. 
(everybody healthy, Chicago going cold).
> 
>hope I did this right. first time

Is it just home town blindness, or are the Cavs really considered 
to really be a threat to the Bulls, let alone the 2nd favorite from the East?

I'd be interested in thoughts from Celtics and Pistons fans, the other 
teams to worry about. 
i'm not worried about the KNicks, becuase I I think they have a good 
chance of losing in the first round, whether they play the Pistons 
as the 4th seed, or the Nets or Pacers as the 2nd.

Vic Canacci, Sverdrup Tech., NASA Lewis Cleveland
From: ecol@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Spurs New Head Coach(Tark)
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:32:59 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

Tark the Shark is going to be the next head coach at
San Antonio.  However, he won't start until after the
playoffs. This according to Headline Sports.

Marv
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Larry Bird
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:10:21 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <ku6gh4INNo3e@utkcs2.cs.utk.edu> schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN) writes:
>I think that ability puts him above the level of Karl Malone or Scottie Pippen.
>I'm not deriding them or doubting their prowess, but Bird has abilities they
>don't.  

I think this is the main problem you are having, I don't think anyone is really
arguing about Larry's past, they're saying that TODAY Bird isn't better than
the other guys are.








Russ Smith
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From: schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Jordon to Boston?
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:11:48 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennesee, Knoxville
Distribution: world
Reply-To: schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra3f.cs.utk.edu


Checking the nbastats databases, I find that the Chicago Bulls had
the number two draft pick in 1979 (well actually I knew that much - 
that coin flip is more then infamous in Chicago), and drafted ....

	David Greenwood out of UCLA

Bill Cartwright was picked third by the Knicks
Gee, Larry Bird or Magic Johnson being drafted by the Bulls, 
but then we would have never gotten Jordan, oh well ;-)

Actually Magic has said that if the Bulls would have won the coin flip,
he would have probably not gone pro, but rather stayed in school.  Who
knows, one can only guess... 
 

Doug G. Huffer				Go Bulls! 
dgh2@quads.uchicago.edu 		Go Maroons!

_______________________

Now that would have been interesting.  I wonder who would have gotten Jordan?
Maybe Boston???  Who knows?  In this wonderful life, wonders never cease.

Neil
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From: tamada@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael K. Tamada)
Subject: Bucks and Moses
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA.  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:38:24 GMT


In article <1992Apr9.184202.7791@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:

>Now that Del Harris has quit his job as GM(?) up there, it's quite
>likely that they won't keep what's-his-name the interim coach.

     Yes, Hamblen or whatever his name is doesn't look too likely
to come back next year as a head coach.  On a Clippers-Bucks game,
the Clippers sportscasters were describing how he'd been an assistant
coach for 23 years before finally getting a head coaching slot --
with the sinking Bucks.  So much for being a head coach.
     Hamblen had some interesting comments about his personnel.  He said
the Bucks missed the team defense provided by Jack Sikma (retired) and
Danny Schayes (injured).  He also said that, this season, Frank Brickowski
was their best low post player.
     The reason I find this interesting is that the Bucks after all did
pick up Moses Malone this season -- but Hamblen didn't include Moses
in any of his listed superlatives. 
     I mean, he was implying that Moses wasn't as good defensively as Sikma
or Schayes or as good in the low post as Brickowski.  I've never been a big 
Moses Malone fan but I certainly had to admit that he was a major force who 
fully deserved the 2 or 3 MVP awards he won.  And I liked Sikma a lot,
but to rank all those guys ahead of Moses seems kind of strange to me. 
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Another Bird man
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:18:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Apr14.151848.48518
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <sclqdINNjkb@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> bih@bagheera.East.Sun.COM writes:
>Not to throw more gasoline on the raging Larry Bird debate, but...
>
>> The fact is the Celtics have the second best record in their division and have 
>> just beat the top three teams in the East(Chicago,Cleveland and New York).
>> And as for the Larry Bird haters out there. Bird is still one of the top three
>> players in the league(yes, seriously).
>
>The Celtics are definitely the hottest team in the NBA right now, but you will
>notice that the man responsible for their surge has NOT been Larry "Oh my
>aching back" Bird but Reggie Lewis. In fact, Bird has not played at all during
>the Celtics recent run for the Atlantic title and has only played in 44 games
>all year. The third best player in the NBA ain't much good when he's on the
>injured list for half the season. Plus having watching the Celtics all year
>I say the Celtics are a better team without him.

Well, actually, the Celtics are 13 out of 14 in the recent run.  Bird has
only missed about 5 of those games, so I would say he is very important
during a majority of those games.  In fact, since his last return, the
Celtics are playing incredible basketball.  Luckily, when he went down this
last time, Reggie Lewis and Kevin Gamble picked up the slack and have 
carried the team.  Though he isn't the 3rd best player in the league, he
is still one of the league's top players.  As for the Celtics being better
without him, I definitely disagree.  Larry provides leadership, passing,
rebounding, scoring, and a competitive edge that no one else on their team
provides.  Reggie is picking up the scoring, etc...  But isn't the floor
leader Bird was.  However, the Cs overall defense picks up without Bird,
though their offense suffers...


>
>-Bennet


-- 
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From: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: NBA Most Improved Player
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:36:44 GMT
Reply-To: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Tim Perry  tripled most of his stats and Pervis Ellison doubled some of his.
The rest are wannabes.
-

    Mike
    
    "in this day & age...music performed by humans...hum?!" 
       - wilde silas tomkyn
From: schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Still don't like the bulls
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:51:16 GMT
Reply-To: schulman@hydra3f.cs.utk.edu (NEIL WAYNE SCHULMAN)
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennesee, Knoxville
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra3f.cs.utk.edu

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> All right!  another Bulls-hater!  I'm sick and tired of hearing about how high
> and mighty the bulls and jordan are!  Even though I live in the south east, 
> at least I can admire a basketball star who never had questions of gambling,
> infedelity, AIDS, depression, greediness, and that's Larry Bird, probably
> still one of the hardest workers in the NBA!


	Geez, try to crack a joke about the Bulls starters being 'rested', 
and next thing I know I'm labelled a "Bulls-hater"???? Far from it, I think
the Bulls are a great Bball team!

	Please don't try to associate me with your warped rantings about
Larry Bird. Even as a life-long Celtic fan, I can admit that Bird is way
beyond his prime and there are indeed better forwards in the league. Maybe
not many, but he's no longer the best. Its been that way for at least
4 seasons!

	And please get over this hero worship thing you have for Larry. He's
no saint. Quick, what's his most famous quote? "Moses does eat shit"! Hell
(oops..) Heck, even Magic Johnson doesn't swear in public! :-)

******************************************************

Well excuuuuuusse me.  I am still not a fan of the Bulls, I respect them for what they have done, but nobody can force me to like it.  I know Larry is out of prime, but if I had a team, I would rather have him than about half the forwards in the league who *are* in their prime.

Neil

BTW, I thought his famous quote was that he would rather be in French lick.  Tell me wher you heard this, I'm interested
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Tim Perry question.
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:53:08 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Apr8.200626.19046@ennews.eas.asu.edu> koehnema@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
****** Tim perry discussion**********
>just looked lost on the offensive end.  It turns out that Cotton was a
>little hard on the guy and he doesn't respond to agressive coaching.  So,
>when Cotton let up, Perry played with less pressure and look what happened.

If this is true, how in the world did Tim survive at Temple for 4 years? 
John Chaney is an extremely demanding and aggressive coach. Watch a Temple
game on ESPN and you can hear Chaney's voice yelling all night long, the
guy is LOUD. A great coach though. Maybe he's the exact opposite in
practice, but I seriously doubt it(although Chaney certainly does have a
great rapport with his players, he's the man and if they don't respect
that they're gone- my way or the highway).



Russ Smith
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From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Chuck Dlay rumors
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:53:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: cms.167C2EDA0.EIVERSO
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT

Every year we get rumors about Chuck Daly leaving the Pistons. This season,
both Sports Illustrated and USA Today have published some. Now the Detroit
press has started to treat the rumors seriously. Apparently Daly told
the Pistons in a meeting last saturday that he would leave them when his
contract expires June 1 this year. The Pistons were so shocked by the
news that they beat the Heat sunday 104-80 ;).

Also in the mill is that Daly may become the GM of the Spurs.

Daly denies making any decisions about leaving & some Pistons players deny
hearing any news from Daly re leaving.

--Eric
From: pabouki@eos.ncsu.edu (PERRY ANDREW BOUKIDIS)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bulls Yea Pistons No....NOT!
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:39:44 GMT
Reply-To: pabouki@eos.ncsu.edu (PERRY ANDREW BOUKIDIS)
Organization: Project EOS - North Carolina State University

In response to Eric the Piston / Thug fan:

	Fact is the Pistons not only lost to the Bullets on Friday night...
They got wiped by a Pervisless Washington team.  Losing at one point
by as many as 40 points.  I wish I was there to hear what Robin Ficker
could have been saying!!

                                Go Bulls,       
 
                                      Perry Boukidis
From: hanley@fyi.crd.ge.com (Christopher W Hanley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Sixers no playoffs-enter Shaq lottery
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:20:14 GMT
Reply-To: hanley@fyi.crd.ge.com (Christopher W Hanley)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <1992Apr16.063426.9548@agora.uucp>, robart@agora.uucp (Robert
Barton) writes:
|>In article <1992Apr15.153548.18637@cbnewsm.cb.att.com>,
jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
|>> 
|>> Yeah, a 1-in-66 chance.  But stranger things have happened.

Actually, more like 3 in 66, Philly will probably finish 9th overall
Which is actually almost 5%.  Shaq and Barkley would make an awesome combo,
but I still don't think Philly would dominate!  It takes more quality all-
around players (look at the teams who have won the title the last 5 years)


|>  What odds would you Philly fans give on Barkley being back next year?

Barkley will be back unless someone is willing to take a risk in trading for
him - He has alreay said he will play 3 more years and no more...Philly has
made some awful trades in recent years (Moses, Missing Brad Dougherty, Ruland)
Katz simply can't afford to trade the heart and soul of the franchise no
matter how OURAGEOUS he is!!!

Shaq and Barkley for Pres `92

Hoping,
Chris Hanley
hanley@crd.ge.com
From: ky0l+@andrew.cmu.edu (King-Han Yao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: KNICKS SUCK
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:27:48 GMT
Organization: Senior, Economics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


This is coming from a Knickerbocker fan:

They stink!

I've lost all hope for them after watching the Atlanta game.
I predict Detroit wins 3-0 in the first round (it is a best of five, right?)



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King Yao                       
Economics 
Class of '92                   
Carnegie Mellon
From: cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Laker Injuries
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:05:20 GMT
Reply-To: cmgrawbu@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER M GRAWBURG)
Organization: Project EOS - North Carolina State University



All I have heard is that Worthy is out for the season because of
knee surgury.

Anyone with any other info??


Chris
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster)
Subject: Re: Dee Brown
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:29:35 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.200214.1084@ll.mit.edu>
urbano@ll.mit.edu (John Urbano) writes:
 
>
> I'd be interested in hearing (reading) some opinions
> on Dee Brown, especially on the subject of
> Dee Brown vs Sherm Douglas vs John Bagley.
>
> Who should the Celtics go with short term (playoffs)?
> How about long term?
 
I don't get to see Boston much, but I'll post my opinion...
 
I don't think Dee Brown is the long-term answer for Boston at point
guard.  He has a scorer's mentality, and does not seem to have the
instincts of a point guard.  His only problem as a shooting guard is
height.  This is partially offset by his great leaping ability, but he
will have a problem defensively against some of the bigger shooting
guards.  Putting Dee here means Lewis moving to small forward.
 
Bagley has done a fantastic job as a fill-in, but he is old, and not
very talented.  Not the answer as a starter, but maybe as a steady
reserve.
 
Sherman Douglas has shown flashes, but is very inconsistent.  I am
willing to attribute that to his holdout and lack of familiarity with
the Celt's players and system.  I will reserve judgement until next
year, when he has a training camp under his belt.  Then I hope the
Celtics can keep him beyond next season if he works out.  (He had the
"free-agent" clause in the contract the Lakers offered him....is that
still in?  Or have the Celtics negotiated that out.)
 
For the playoffs, I think Brown has to be the starter, and Bagley the
backup.  Douglas just does not fit in yet.  This leaves the Celtics a
little weaker at the point than I would like, but they might be able to
pull it off.
 
Jim McMaster
From: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Warriors vs. Phoenix
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:06:04 GMT
Reply-To: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Ed Nealy is a waste of skin!  I have no idea why Cotton likes this guy.

--

    Mike
    
    "in this day & age...music performed by humans...hum?!" 
       - wilde silas tomkyn
From: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: BOXSCORE: bos80phi79.14apr92
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:39:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr16.183917.12981
Reply-To: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

bos 99, phi 94   14apr92

bos (49-31)      min  fgm fga  3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as  pf st to bk tc ej  pts
gamble,kevin      44   10  15   2  3   2  2   0  6   1   4  0  2  0  0  0   24
pinckney,ed       11    1   5   0  0   0  0   2  4   0   2  0  0  0  0  0    2
parish,robert     33    3  10   0  0   2  2   2 10   0   1  1  3  1  0  0    8
bagley,john       33    3  11   0  0   4  4   0  1  14   0  0  2  0  0  0   10
lewis,reggie      45   11  20   0  0   5  7   4  7   4   3  1  1  1  0  0   27
mchale,kevin      37    9  12   0  0   2  2   5 12   3   2  0  0  2  0  0   20
fox,rick           4    0   0   0  0   0  0   0  1   1   2  0  1  0  0  0    0
kleine,joe        15    1   6   0  0   0  0   1  5   0   2  0  0  0  0  0    2
douglas,sherman   18    3   8   0  1   0  0   2  4   4   2  1  2  0  0  0    6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
bos totals       240   41  87   2  4  15 17  16 50  27  18  3 11  4  0  0   99
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .471   .500   .882       team rebs  3

phi (33-46)      min  fgm fga  3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as  pf st to bk tc ej  pts
barkley,charles   43    5   9   0  1   9 16   1  7   3   1  3  2  0  0  0   19
gilliam,armon     30    5  11   0  0   3  3   0  3   0   1  0  2  2  0  0   13
shackleford,charl 23    4   8   0  0   1  2   3  8   1   2  2  2  0  0  0    9
dawkins,johnny    42    1  10   0  2   0  0   0  4  14   1  0  0  0  0  0    2
hawkins,hersey    32    8  11   2  2   2  2   0  2   4   2  0  3  0  0  0   20
anderson,ron      22    2  12   0  3   4  4   1  4   0   1  0  0  0  0  0    8
bol,manute        23    2   3   0  0   0  0   1  4   0   2  1  0  1  0  0    4
wiggins,mitchell  19    8  12   0  0   3  3   5  7   0   4  0  0  0  0  0   19
oliver,brian       6    0   1   0  0   0  0   0  0   0   0  1  0  0  0  0    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
phi totals       240   35  77   2  8  22 30  11 39  22  14  7  9  3  0  0   94
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .455   .250   .733       team rebs  6, team TO's 1

bos   31  28  26  14  -   99
phi   27  23  24  20  -   94

attendance 16240, time 2:04, officials: LJones,DBavetta,DStafford
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: The Playoff Race
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:31:03 GMT

Yesterday I wrote:
>Joyzee is looking quite good [...]
>Atlanta is looking at a tough schedule [...]

So of course the Hawks go and win in the Meadowlands.  Why do I even
bother with these predictions?!

Anyway, here's the western picture:

			Remaining games:			Prediction:
5) San_Antonio   44-32	@LAL  @Por  Dal  @Phx  Den  Utah
			-     -     +    -     +    -		46-36	(5
6) Seattle       44-32	Phx  @Port  Min  @Phx  Sac  @GS
			-    -      +    -     +    -		46-36	(6
7) LA_Clippers   42-34	Por  Den  Sac  Min  @GS  @LAL
			-    +    +    +    -    -		45-37	(8
8) LA_Lakers     40-35	SA Utah  Den  @Den  @Sac  @Por  LAC
			+  -     +    +     +     -     +	45-37	(7
9) Houston       40-36	@Min  Dal  Por  @Utah  @Dal  Phx
			+     +    -    -      +     -		43-39	(9

This scenario means that the 5-6 and 7-8 positions will be decided
on head-to-head tie breakers.  San Anton already won teh seaosn series
with Seattle, 3-1.  The LA season series is tied at 2-2, and will go
to the last game.

If Houston does manage to tie L.A., I have no idea who will win the
tie-breaker.  They are 2-2 for the season and if they tie, say at 44-38,
they will also have identical 28-26 conference records.
Anyone knows what the next tie-breakers are?


--Gidi