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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:09:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Car Lust
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> Whatta buncha woosies!  Get a REAL "sports" vehicle:  Four-wheel drive, dual
> speed transfer case, 'Roo guard, and torque up the yang!  It will also suck
> up $15k like a Hoover...
>
> JMW, who just sold his '68 Land Crusher after 20 years together, and can't wai
> to do it in the dirt once more...  Sniff.

Actually, what I *really* want is one of those big pickups with the
enormous tires that raise it about five feet off the ground and a
gun rack and a <Make Jesse Helms God> bumper sticker.  I could
really <tool around> Raleigh in that.
--ggs (about to trade in the three disabled pre-'73 vehicles
       <setting> on blocks in his back yard)
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:44:05 CDT
From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject: Re: Quote of the day.
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>> "Clothes make the man. Naked people have little or no influence on
>> society.
>
>I find that second sentence very hard to believe...
                                  ^^^^

Obvious pun deleted
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:49:57 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Eating Whales
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I forgot--whales are also highly valued for their ....
you know.  What we get from sperm whales to make
scent.  Is it sperm???  Oh no!  Have I been rude
on words-l?

Karen
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 06:39:24 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Okay, what's the opposite?
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> >Anyway, this question has to do w/ orality--we talk about the 'orality'
> >of a written text.  Do we talk about the literality of speech?? Or what?
>
> No - because the word gets used for a different meaning so much that
> your meaning is too obscure.

I agree with Tony on this one.  If somebody said something to me about
"the literality" of somebody's speech, I would not interpret that as the
opposite of orality unless I knew the context.

That reminds me.  Is Marty back from Nova Scotian camping yet?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:38:00 GMT
From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject: re: Gleanings (53)
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>20) Divine's old Caddy (Jill)

Hrmph.  The only mention of me in the gleanings this week...and it's
not even really mine!  Oh well, I'll give it a shot.

Divine was a large transvestite, who starred in several of John
Waters' films ("Polyester,"Pink Flamingos","Hairspray"...).  He died
recently, I believe?  Others who are more knowledgeable are welcome
to jump right in here... (I assume the above refers to a Cadillac
belonging to Divine?)

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:02:31 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject:      Re: hi
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>>Prudence Tucker said:
>>hi guys
>
>                    ... At least its hard to get flamed for such a
>timid first post ...
>
>dan in potatoland

Timid? Apart from a thread on plagiarism, a posting about habits of
library patrons, another hi from msstate, and regrettably few postings
by tushar, this is the one of the very few interesting posts I have
seen today, hidden in a mass of vapid inanities.

As for "hard to get flamed", no way. If anyone has forgotten the bad-
mannered reception I got when I started a serious exchange of ideas on
IRC, their memory tables are leaky, and if they expect me to forget it
they are stark raving mad. "Hi guys" indeed! Give me a bloody break -
underneath this timid exterior there lies philistine with total disregard
for a serious exchange of ideas. I speak as one who knows.

Still, nothing to do except say "Welcome", I suppose. Do it, someone.

tushar
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:22:46 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gopher
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> 	Nothing mentioned anywhere that I've seen about incompatibilities with
> 	the tn3270 emulator.  Besides, with OS/2 you won't have any need for
> 	QEMM -- it's a true multitasker.

I was basing that on a friend's experience in finding that his os/2 crashed
when he went into slip/tn3270 with his VDM.  This was without QEMM, of course.
I realize that os/2 would replace DV/QEMM.

> >for him was when he used tn3270 in the same way I use it, (3) communication
> >programs are slow on os/2 -- and they are what I'm most interested in, and
>
> 	Are you sure about that?  Why would anything other than modem speed
> 	have any effect on comm programs?

No.  It's hear-say.  But PCPLUS is slower under DV than not under DV,
I think.  Since I stay in DV all the time (at home), I'm not really sure.

> >(4) for the cost of 4 more mg of RAM I might be able to do some more
> >meeting-e-friends wandering.  Those are not listed in order.  In fact, I
> >think reverse order is probably right for them.
>
> 	$160 doesn't go as far as it used to, Natalie.
>
> 	If you have a legal copy of Windows lying around somewhere, OS/2 can be
> 	yours for just $49 plus S&H.  That's the main reason I went for it --
> 	if I end up not using it, I haven't wasted a whole lot of money.  I
> 	only use Windows to play solitaire, so what the hey.

Hmmmmm.  A legal copy of Windows came on my office computer (a CompuAdd).
I guess that makes it mine.  And I think I saved the Windows manual and
floppies when I deleted the junk from the hard disk that first day.  On
second thought, that copy of Windows belongs to MSU, not to me.  If I were
thinking about buying os/2 for my office computer, it would be different.
But I'm not.  My home computer is much more important in my life than my
office computer -- it's also a better computer than my office computer.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 20:19:38 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dessert
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>
> Yes, Jenna, Subway sandwich shops.  They bake the cookies right on the
> premises.  I also like their subs.
>
> Evelyn

So do I, Evelyn. To each his/her own, but it's not *nice* for them to put
us down for liking something they don't.
Doris
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:03:15 EDT
From:         Don Thornton <DTHORNTN@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Looking for help w/ tact...
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.How about, "Well Bob, with anyone else that comment you made yesterday
.about <student>'s looks would be taken as condescendingly sexist, but
.you're such a good looking guy I just can't hold it against you"...
That's great Graham - could you get away with `just want to hold it
against you!'?

don
     (dthorntn@brownvm.brown.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:07:14 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: New Gif Names
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On Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:23:21 CDT, "List Goddess" <maynor@ra.msstate.edu> wrote:
> I just made these changes in docs/words-l/Gifs/ClambakeGifs.  I haven't
> edited the index yet.
>
> :-) mv bill+tushar+steve.gif chicago.gif
> :-) mv bill+tushar+steve.uu chicago.uu

That won't actually help, sorry!  chicago.uu will still say
bill+tushar+steve.gif inside it.

Sorry I mentioned it.  Probably more bother than it's worth.

G
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:02:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sea World (was re: Gleanings (54))
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> On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:33:00 EDT Gilbert Smith said:
> >
> >2) Want Some More Syrup With A Big Waffle?
> YATPOBTP
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
> Evelyn

Yes And Three Pats of Butter Too Please.
--ggs
p.s.  This is *easy*.
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:51:52 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Wha?
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> 'humanist' means, but just what the hell is a Secular Humanist?  Usage seems
> to indicate that it's a synonym for "aetheist", but I dunno...

Probably the use of "secular" before "humanist" is to distinguish "secular
humanists" from "Christian humanists" etc.  Renaissance humanism, for
example, was tied closely to the Christian church.  Twentieth-century
humanism isn't.

Talk about an interesting bunch of words -- the different meanings of the
various "hum" words are a bit mind-boggling.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

P.S. Somebody else will no doubt give a much better answer to the question
about secular humanism.  My powers of concentration are on mechanical
oddities rather than message content right now.  Even though moving out
of DV seems to have solved my download problem, I'm convinced that that
problem was somehow related to some bizarre behavior being exhibited by vi
lately -- cursor hopping around wildly, vanishing characters, etc.  FWP
tells me that vi is working fine for other people, including people like
him who use it far more than I do, and that there may be a problem either
with my serial port or my VDM line.  Anybody have a suggestion about how
I can decide which of those two may be at fault?  The obvious method may
not work in this case.  The first thing I would normally do in trying
to pinpoint the offender in a situation like this is to eliminate other
possible offenders.  If I unplug VDM and use regular modem, though, the
problem will probably vanish even if it's with the serial port rather
than with the VDM since I bet it wouldn't show up at 2400 baud as opposed
to 19,200.  I wish I didn't have tons of other things I have to do today
so that I could concentrate energy on solving this mystery.
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:23:46 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: <sigh>
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On Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:25:47 EDT, "Rita Marie Rouvalis" <rita@EFF.ORG> wrote:
> Who has accounts all over the place under different logins, but is
> currently amusing herself as czarina@mindvox.phantom.com

I guess the net.police are already watching a recidivist like yourself
anyway...  It's the other wordsler there that amazes me.  I mean, it's
like putting a red light on your head and saying 'bug me, please!'...

G
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:53:00 EST
From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I feel so CHEAP
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>I just found out that the "Tushar" I was flirting with on the chat
>tonight was an IMPOSTER. I need a shower.

>-abh

	Gee, I lose all access to e-mail for 12 hours or so, and <this> is the
	message that breaks the silence...

neal
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:49:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: No Picture of Giggles (was Re: Eating Whales)
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> Why is Giggles not in a single one of my clambake pictures??  I'm
> beginning to think that I just imagined him -- that he wasn't really
> there.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I don't photograph well.... in fact, not at all.  I stand in front
of a mirror and..... *nothing*.....  Oh, dear, now I am very
depressed.  Will somebody please send Natalie a picture from the
clambake to prove that I *was* there.  She lives in Boston, has
a Golden Retriever, a Cuban/Madrileno/Midwestern novio who is a
member of an upstanding collegiate service organization, and has
a certain <way with WORDS>.  I was there, I know.
--ggs
(ps:  made that a little South of Boston)
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:33:50 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Royalties.
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> Ha, ha, ha, ha!  Diane doesn't get royalties if her stuff is
> sent out on the wires and gets picked up.  I don't know the details
> of the financial arrangements between the wires and newspapers, but
> I do know that she doesn't make anything out of it.

I have 2 friends who have syndicated columns, and neither of them
have mentioned this problem.  I know one *has* had stuff picked up
by the wires, and made enormous amounts of money from it. Hmmm...
I'll have to remember all this when I get my own column.:)

Karen
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:07:03 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Women in Combat
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> specifically the phrase "you women".  Sounds ugly to me, and is certainly
> not how I meant it - I meant "the women on WORDS-L" in the absolute best
> of meanings.  Now, as for "choosing" - I think few men choose to live such

I didn't take it as ugly or insulting.

> horrors.  They do, however, take an oath to protect and defend their
> country knowing, although distantly, all of what that might could some day

When is this oath taken?

> is the rationale?  Most likely men make the rules, but for noble or self-
> serving reasons?  Because of tradition?  Because of, in most cases, of
                                ^^^^^^^^
> stronger physical abilities?  Because of male chauvinistic attitudes?
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> Because of a desire to protect women? (Would you say that the old "women
> and children first" concept is wrong?)  What about door opening, walking

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^= my answers to the question.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:28:25 GMT
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Neighborhood Survey

Hi Group

Guess something is out ...no WORDS-L mail.  Anyway, a little situation
yesterday got me to wondering how well do you know your own neighborhood?
For example, If I were to mention three landmarks, within 2 blocks of your
home, would you know where I was?  For example, suppose I said I was near
a furniture store, across from a Chevron station, with a small cemetary
on the other side of the road, and this location was within 2 blocks of
your home, you WOULD know where I was, wouldn't you?  Comments please.
Natalie will be happy to tally results!   Don, being evil.  Goodnight.


PS.  Congratulations Grandma!!

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:42:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject: Re: Five Reasons (was tushar, boy..)
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     Tushar's posting leaves me with a chilly suspicion of futility.
     No matter what I say in response, he can always resort to his
     favorite strategem: arm-waving incomprehension in the face of my
     "alien framework of reasoning."  I'm inclined to regard this as
     disingenuous, since tushar's own postings demonstrate his
     facility with non-Euclidean modes of expression, such as
     hyperbole, indirection, and comic non sequitur.

     And yet tushar persists in examining obviously facetious utterances
     in the harsh glare of logic, and casting up his hands in histrionic
     despair when they fail to pass his invented tests.  Is his role
     as Grand Inquisitor intended to amuse?  On me at least, its
     novelty is beginning to pall.  Or is this his form of witty
     repartee?  I could wish for a dancing partner with a somewhat
     lighter foot.

     I suppose it's always possible that tushar is really as obtuse as
     he acts.  Maybe he's been laboring too long in his austere scholarly
     cell, and the smoke and noise of the saloon confuse him and make
     him crabby.  At the risk of tedious earnestness, tushar, I was
     not proposing an "alternative formalism of logic."  I was making
     an eentsy-weentsy jeu d'esprit -- for which the measure of
     success is not absolute logical rigor.

     If "Five Reasons" wasn't funny (and god knows it's a frail reed
     on which to construct an aesthetics of humor), then show me why
     by being funnier.  As for the Mr. Spock schtick -- tushar, babe,
     don't quit your day job.

     With a big wet affectionate Bronx cheer,
     Carol
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From:         Reboot My Life <AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Words (was Re: Girl Scouts)
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>> --Adam
>> Jewish by blood, Episcopalian by upbringing, and semi-agnositic now
>
>I assume that an agnostic might be considered a "semi-atheist," but what
>is a "semi-agnostic"?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

A semi-agnostic means that I haven't had time to sort out my
religious beliefs yet.  Perhaps I'm closest to Unitarian
Universalist--but it will take time and research to sort out this
muddle of religious beliefs that I have.

--Adam
taking a quick break from writing docs about (puke) Quattro Pro
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From:         ktw@HLWPK.ATT.COM
Subject:      Re: dead afternoon
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Adam, dear sir, the only advice I can give you, one editor to
another, is get yourself a hack license....  Editing in any
organization is purely political.

Ken
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From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject:      Re: bio
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     Ah, Torkel.  How lovely.  You set a high biographical standard.

     Carol
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From:         Adam Hartfield <AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU>
Subject: RE: HELP!
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>>I agree.  I also don't RTFM.
>     When I'm unemployed, homeless, and eating out of dumpsters, I'll
>     know who to thank.
>     Carol "it's not an adventure, it's just a job"

Amen, Sistah!  But at least I've been singled out as 'having
potential', whatever that means, and I wonder if the person saying it
is in any way qualified to say it...

--Adam "It's not just a job, but an annoyance" H.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 03:39:54 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      re: birth order
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> What did it say about second children that made you want to be one?
> And does it apply to middle children, or only to second and last
> children?
> Jill ...a curious middle child...
>    (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)

I still haven't gone to look it up...second children are, as a rule, much
more relaxed and tend to take things a lot easier.
ndh (who really shouldn't be up at this hour, and is positively going to
bed right NOW)
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Date:         Sun, 26 Jul 1992 14:20:36 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: dreary weekend
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>Oh, wait, maybe we ought to *encourage* all the dribbling inanity to go irc
>itself, then we sober intelligent people would have the List to ourselves,
>to discuss *important matters* such as .. as .. garlic and chocolate?
>Lobsters and Nutella?  Cabbages and kings?
>
>--bayla
Good idea!

So: Why *is* the sea boiling hot? And *do* pigs have wings?
(Natalie's BW pig does, for sure!)

love, judith, sober, intelligent person (sure, you bet)
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Subject:      Re: Car Lust

*** Resending note of 07/28/92 23:15


>Actually, what I *really* want is one of those big pickups with the
>enormous tires that raise it about five feet off the ground and a
>--ggs (about to trade in the three disabled pre-'73 vehicles

ggs, my son has one of those ridiculous vehicles.  The engine is not
powerful enough to run the thing, clutches last about six months, riding
in it is like a bad amusement park ride, and I need to use a step-ladder
to get in the thing.  Great for going thru swamps, but most of the roads
here are above water.
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