From: kirsch@staff.tc.umn.edu (Dave Heart Condition Kirsch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: running <-> errors?
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:51:40 GMT
Organization: Daves R Us (Irkutsk division)

In article <1achpqINNl4h@uwm.edu> paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul 'could probably
pitch better than Bill' Krueger) writes:
>
>   Garner has said that Milwaukee isn't the fastest team around, that Toronto
>   may even have more speed (also that if Devon White was on Milwaukee, he'd
>   have about 80 stolen bases). But Milwaukee puts the pressure on other teams
>   and often the other team doesn't respond well. And when you don't have any
>   RBI men on the team (with the possible exception of Molitor and Vaughn,
>   when he's on a hot streak), you have to take these chances. 

  Hey, Devo runs like a gazelle but it's damned hard for *anybody* to steal 
80 bases with a sub-.300 OBP where 16 of your hits are HRs and over 1/3 are 
for extra bases. Devo was tolerable as a leadoff hitter last year; he should
now be in the bottom third of the order. Even if the Jays *did* let him steal
80 bases (which he could if he got on base enough), his body would take an
enormous pounding. Since the Jays wouldn't be likely to see *that* much of a 
marginal gain if he ran more (this year, at least), I'd say it's not worth 
the risk of injury/fatigue late in the year. Of course, Joe Carter could be 
really padding that world-leading SF total (tm) if Devo would just steal 3B 
at every opportunity.  

  The Brewers have been *extremely* lucky injury-wise this year; they've lost
very few players of significance to injury for any length of time. That's
especially surprising when you consider how aggressive they've been overall,
as well as the fact that the team isn't especially young. Then again, the
above pretty much describes the formula for winning a division. That and a
few career years/surprises. Dante Bichette hitting almost .300? Shyyeahh! 
And a SS that's never hit coming out of nowhere to post a .300 BA? Hokay. 
(Listach's MLEs from last year showed, if memory serves, a .210 hitter that
drew some walks, stole a few bases and had no power whatsoever. The one thing
that I see in Listach's favour is that he's always been able to draw some
walks. I'm still *very* skeptical, though.) 
 
  Now, you'll have to excuse me while I go book my flight out of the country.
Honestly, delaying the start of the mock expansion draft 'til next Monday
doesn't have anything to do with having trouble trying to reach one of the
expansion owners. (OK, it does.) But I still gotta get out of town anyways, 
just in case Huckabay's a man of his word .. I mean, hey, I never consented
to this: 
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Article: 22924 of rec.sport.baseball
From: zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Not Just For The Dead Huckabay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: True Blue Brew Crew in '92!
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:14:38 GMT
Organization: Lance Smith Tastee Freezes, Inc.

(Paul R Krueger) writes:
>Fifth, the Brewers finished the last 69 games of last year at 40-19, the
>best in the majors. If they went 36-18 the rest of the way, they'd duplicate
>that feat and end up at 90-72, which would at least keep them in the pennant
>race. 

And if they play .667 ball from here on out, I'll french kiss Dave
Kirsch.  (Think anyone will save this text?   :-)
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  Lessee .. the Brewers now have 90 wins with five games to go. Shudder. 

  Consider me on the next flight to Belize .. or Iceland .. or New Zealand.

  Lundy, 

-- 
Dave Hung Like a Jim Acker Slider Kirsch            kirsch@epx.cis.umn.edu 
"Blue Jays - break my heart again in '92"    Roberto Hernandez throws peas  
"I believe virtually everything I read, and I think that is what makes me
   MORE of a selective human" - Joe Average, baseball fan and media puppet