HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: In the wake of RamaJanmaBhoomi
Keywords: RamJanmaBhoomi, Babri
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:02:32 GMT

prakash@cs.mcgill.ca (Prakash Panangaden) writes:

>Are you guys out of your minds?  The BJP has only one platform, to drive
>nonHindus out of India.  What if we start an agitation to restore all the
>glorious preAryan culture destroyed by the barbarian Hindu invaders?
>There will never be peace with a BJP government only more fascism.
>Smash the BJP/VHP combine!!  Indians in India are by and large far more
>sensible than the nuts out here on SCI.  They will never vote for the BJP
>in such numbers again.



>Prakash


	PRAKASH , YOU ARE INSANE .

	GO TO A MENTAL ASYLUM , PROBABLY YOU'LL FIND SOMEONE

	THERE WHO WOULD ACCEPT YOUR VIEWS .

	CHECK YOUR L*** AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE NOT A ***(you know what )


						DEEPAK



Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:43406 soc.culture.iranian:11306 soc.culture.jewish:24826
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Kashmir massacre (?)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 01:27:20 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <Hqd=Rp-@engin.umich.edu>, sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
|> For two days now, AP and UPI have been carrying conflicting versions of the 
|> killings in Kashmir. This shows exactly how biased some news agencies are today.
|> It would seem likely that only one of the two versions is true - either there
|> was a massacre or there was an explosives dump fire. But then notice the slant
|> the two news agencies have. Obviously, they toe the line of their owners -
|> whoever they may be. One has implicit faith in Indian Govt press releases; the
|> other does'nt. Who is right? Who knows?

I don't think that there was any obvious bias. The report that was posted on the net
by Bala (the AP version) had all the hallmarks of an on-the-spot report, and
hence gave a version that we later knew turned out to be closer to the truth
(i.e. that there was a massacre or at least that the security forces had run 
amuck). The later version making it out to be a fire was from New Delhi and
quoted from Govt. reports, with stuff like "...authorities said," and "...
according to a statement released in New Delhi."

It seems to me that both reported exactly what they knew, with no obvious biases. 
The AP report, being right from Sopore related what the AP correspondent knew and 
heard from locals, while the UPI report, being from New Delhi, reported only what 
the UPI got from the Government. It has now been verified by both UPI AND the BBC
(according to Sam Miller) that this WAS a case of soldiers losing their cool as
a result of one of their colleagues being killed by a land-mine.

|> Sudhama


-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aa@iti.org (Aayush Asthana)
Subject: Re: DEADLINE TO STOP OBSCENE POSTINGS!
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:04:35 GMT

I heartily second what Dylan says in his note.  

dpereira@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:


>				MEMO
>				----


>TO:	Deepak Bose, Deb Chatterjee, Mustafa Ibrahim, anonymous obscene posters,
>	others who post *really* obscene and offensive material

>FROM:	D. Pereira and others,
>	Indignant and frustrated readers

>REF:	DEADLINE TO STOP POSTING OFFENSIVE OR RACIST MATERIAL ON 
>	SOC.CULTURE.INDIAN


>After Tuesday, January 5, 1992 at midnight, if I see *any* postings or replies
>to postings that are offensive, racist or intolerable to me, I will forward 
>copies to your respective system administrators, who will then decide what 
>action, if any, to take against you.  In effect, it will be your sys ads who 
>will then determine if the material is unsuitable for public medium, not me.
>He/she may then decide whether you should be denied write access to USENET or
>be further penalized. (Some of the postings seen recently may even be used as
>evidence for civil/criminal litigation.)

>If any other sci readers out there decide to support this action, then please
>express your opinion.  A suggestion: extract this memo and post it again under
>your own name.  Do please take the effort to type the SUBJECT heading over,
>rather then doing a REPLY.  This way you will convey to the offenders that you
>feel as strongly about this.

>A final note to the persons mentioned above - please take this very seriously.
>It is NOT a joke.
From: nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Nishit Dey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Bekel bela, Theker somoai
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:20:59 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

partha@paul.rutgers.edu (nowhere_man) writes:


> Deepu sona, tumi be' kolbe???? beth beth!
> khub bhalo katha, kintu bhai khistita ektu na komale je problem
> ache.. oi khistir bhoi ei civil aar mech er cheleder kach theke
> meyera dure dure thakto...ahaaa amon je meyer naam chilo chumki, taar
> naamta ora ki kore cherediechilo mairi...

>koire keu achis?? ek packet philter hueels die ja..


Philter hueels to nai guru, kinto lal suto biri chao to dhar detai pari.
Kinto oai je bolae chumki na ki, or baparae are ektu bolo na guru.


Nishit
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,alt.culture.kerala,soc.culture.tamil
From: mani@Mirada.Stanford.EDU (Mani Varadarajan)
Subject: Re: The Hindu Digest
Reply-To: mani@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Stanford University
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:53:23

In article <C0q0n3.1D8@ucunix.san.uc.edu> editor@rbhatnagar.csm.uc.edu (digest editor) writes:

   From: Tattva Darsana
   Article: Swami Vivekananda and Modern Socialism
   Author: Sibranjan Chatterjee

   Swami Vivekananda was the first great social revolutionary of India. 
   He was the first among the 19th century Indians who strongly protested
   against untouchability. He was the first monk and outstanding spiritual
   leader in the history to uphold without any reservation the cause of 
   women and the common people.

The author of this piece should retake his modern Indian history
class.  What about Ram Mohun Roy? What about Swami Dayananda?
One lived well before Swami Vivekananda, and the other was an
elder contemporary, and both were social revolutionaries.  Let's
be honest, folks---Swami Vivekananda was a great man, but there
were equally great Indians who preceded him that century who more
than laid the groundowrk for him.

   ... and these were the main subjects
   of the Swami's Address before the Parliament of Religions, at Chicago,
   in 1983. 

A nitpicky point, but this was 1893.

Yours in Peace,
Mani
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Nishit Dey)
Subject: Re: YAAAA HOOO !! YAAAAA HOOOO !!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:02:08 GMT

imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:


>See the dumb headed indians. They use the annon service and use my name.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

So what you want them to use. Your father's name? Unfortunately you don't
know yourself.


Nishit



Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:43672 soc.culture.china:34356 soc.culture.tamil:5071 soc.culture.indian.telugu:1646
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Indo-china issues, Sum lien
Date: 11 Jan 1993 14:37:55 -0600
Organization: Educational Computing Network
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

In article <1isj9sINN1m1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes:
>In article <C0LsCu.J35@uceng.uc.edu> mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
>>In article <C0JzHM.G7x@cmcl2.nyu.edu> yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang) writes:
>>>atulpule@sebastian.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule) writes:
>>>
>>>>In <C0JM9L.4sI@cmcl2.nyu.edu> yangze@acf3.nyu.edu (Ze Yang) writes:
>>>
>>>>>sramacha@aludra.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran) writes:
>>>
.....
>>>
>>>You sarcasm about my previous post can only reveal your stupidity.
>>>
>>>>Ajit.
>>>
>>>Ze Yang
>>
>>Your stupidity reveals your stupidity.  Did any of you guys
>>understand what this dude was trying to say.
>>
>>Manoj
>  Are you so stupid? 
>   
Do you think this is a senseless debate? There is an article in sci
praising scc. Then someone in scc became a light bone and feels the
Chinese as Saints and trying to teach sci some holy lessons. You can
imagine what would happen afterwards, a lot of mud slinging. Please go
back to our own group, and praising or cursing as you like.

Tingli Pan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for GIF locations of Hindi movie actresses
From: slf1l@riverheights.enet.dec.com (869883 Sanghavi Swapnesh Harshadray)
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:11:38 MDT
Reply-To: slf1l@riverheights.enet.dec.com (869883 Sanghavi Swapnesh Harshadray)
Distribution: world
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

Hi netters !!
    I am looking for the ftp sites where I can retrieve the gif files of
hindi movie actresses. Please mail me the addresses if somebody knows, at
the following e-mail address : slf1l@cache.declab.usu.edu

	Thanks in advance !!!!

- Swapnesh.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: A Message from Banerjee's Sys Administrator.
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:55:04 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I am surprised to notice that this self-styled intellectual,
Samit Banerjee, is continuing his filthy and foul language
on the net. I am wondering as to why his sys admin has not
suspended his account! Below is a message that I received from
his sys admin a month ago. I herewith request the netters, who
are disturbed by this fella's abusive language, to send as many
complaints as possible to his sys administrator.

--sn
*********************************************************************
From yamaguch@ucs.usc.edu Wed Dec  9 21:11:03 1992
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 92 18:10:57 PST
From: yamaguch@ucs.usc.edu (Brian Yamaguchi)
To: chemsn@unix.cc.emory.edu
Cc: action@ucs.usc.edu
-0500 <921209>
Subject: Re: Samit Banerjee @aludra.usc.edu's posts are offensive
Reply-To: action@usc.edu
X-Action-Reply: Wed Dec  9 18:09:24 1992

Sreehari,

Samit has repented.  If you see any offensive articles after 8 Dec
92
16:39:10 PST from him, please let us know and we will take further
action.

Regards,
Brian Yamaguchi
UCS Technical Support
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From: an4234@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re: In the wake of RamaJanmaBhoomi
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:52:44 GMT

In article <lkhf8uINNib@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> you write:
>
>   In the wake of recent events in India, we need a GOI that is willing to make the following
> decisions as soon as possible:
>
>     1) Enforce uniform civil code for all indians ( including all minorities).
>
>     2) Form a special relationship with Israel (like the one between Israel and US).
>        Co-operate closely with Israel in areas of defence, fight against terrorism, 
>        sharing intelligence, etc.
>
>  Only one party is capable of providing such a govt. That's BJP.  
>
>        
>        

  In the wake of recent events in India, we need a GOI that is willing to make
  the following decisions as soon as possible:
  
  - crack down hard on Hindu terrorists like they do in Kashmir, Assam, Punjab, No
  rtheast etc.


  - Enforce uniform civil code for all indians ( including majority), which includes
    * not discriminating in events of rioting and shooting 50% hindus and 50% muslims (
      not 98% muslims and 2% hindus), or better, use rubber bullets like they do in
      civilized countries for riot control

    * not letting the majority bully the minority by tearing down their places of
     worshiip by inciting their people on un-substantaited and ridiculus charges 
      that it is the birth place their FICTITIOUS god.

  - Use the nation's resources in taking the country forward and provide a 
    decent life for it's poverty striken and hungary 200-250 millions (majority of
    them Ram Bhakts) BEFORE THEY END UP LOOKING LIKE SOMALIANS.

  - bring national pride by making the country self sufficient and being able to
    compete with civilized and wealtf countries of the world.

  Only one party is capable of providing such a govt. That's is 
		A PARTY OF DESH BAKTS.
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From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: HINDUS OFFER PRAYERS AT AYODHYA RAM MANDIR
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:04:59 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

MOOdarshan ramachandran writes:

>Mr. fall217 writes:
>>
>>PLEAS DO NOT FOLLOW UP WITHOUT READING TWICE.
>
>
>	They don't ?? Let's all change into pleas.

	:):) Only catch... MOOstafa insists on being a flea....
From: balarama@cae.wisc.edu (Prabhu Balaraman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: AIDS drug by indian firm
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:42:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering


  IMHO, it is also in the best interests of capitalism to make sure that
  merit is honoured and the original contributors to society be reimbursed
  for their originality! 

  Freeing of product patents amounts to socialism of Intellectual potential,
  and we sure know where socialism can lead to...

  Prabs
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: AIDS drug by indian firm
Date: 6 Jan 1993 02:49:40 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <1idg75INNf06@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh) writes:
|> I wonder what would have happened if U.S. had a product patent on the atomic
|> bomb.

I don't doubt that they did. Probably just didn't want to enforce it.
Anyway, it would have been unenforceable, and besides, the 
anti-nuclear and moral indignation lobbies would have crucified them.

|> Arindam


-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana)
Subject: Re: Hindus Resume Prayers in Ayodhya Shrine
Keywords: Ayodhya Prayers
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:46:44 GMT

In article <C0AruF.LIo@cs.mcgill.ca> prakash@cs.mcgill.ca (Prakash Panangaden) writes:
>It is obvious that the Government has no guts whatsoever.

It is obvious that no government since the islamic invasion of india
had any guts what so ever.

>The so >called temple should have been razed immediately after the government
>forces took over.

The so called mosque should have been razed to ground the moment a temple
was destroyed to construct it in the first place. 
 
>Now every passing day brings new concessions to
>Hindu fanaticism.

Every passing day has only given concessions by psuedo-intellectuals
for the monster known as a mosque and the glorification of the islamic
repression.

>It is unbelievable that Puja and Darshan are being
>allowed by court order. 

It is unbeleivable that the courts allowed a disgusting structure
called a mosque to stand for so many hundreads of years in the first
place.

>The VHP/RSS combine are being given the clear
>message that their illegal activities of Dec 6th are going to be
>rewarded.

The VHP/RSS combine were prevented from their legal acts by denying justice
for so many hundreads of years.
  
>Muslims are being told that their rights and sensibilities
>can be trampled upon with impunity.  
Hindus rights and sensibilities have been trampled upon for centuries
without hindrence!

>Prakash

...kt
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu,alt.culture.karnataka,alt.culture.kerala
From: kthiruma@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: SEARCH ,HELP
Originator: kthiruma@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:41:00 GMT

Hi 

This is on behalf of a friend and I hope to
find a clue or atleast the persons my friend islooking for.

Mr.Gopal Surya currently doing his Ph.D in Electrical Engg.
at SUNY @ StonyBrook is lookinf for Mr. Varadachari Kannan
a BE from GCT Coimbatore 1983 batch & he worked at TIFR Bombay
from 83-85.They were classmates at IIT Madras 1985-87 (MTech).
Mr.Kannan joined Hinditron in 1987 and is currently belieed to
be in the US>

Mr.kannan has 3 brothers :

eldest- Ranarajan V 
younger brothers- Murali & Srinivvasan V.

all of them currently in the US studying or workin here.

hope someone can help.

please mail ur responses to 

gopal@eegw.sunysb.edu
or
kthiruma@ic.sunysb.edu

Thanks.


-- 
FROM

BALAJI THIRUMALAI KUMARA
kthiruma@ic.sunysb.edu

or thru' snailmail:
I 1129A, Chapin Apartments
700 E Loop Road
S.U.N.Y. at StonyBrook
NY 11790.

or tinkle at :
516-632-2419.
From: sunder@grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: AIDS drug by indian firm
Date: 4 Jan 1993 16:05:43 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: grusin.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <1i5fprINNove@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, rajesh@juniper (Rajesh Raman) writes:
|> Samit Banerjee (banerjee@hsc.usc.edu) wrote:
|> : 
|> : In terms of protecting intellectual property, the US law makes more sense.
|> 
|>   Please explain how. I donot think that it is right to take seed from
|>   some country process it and then sell it worldwide and apply your own
|>   label to it.

Given that you spend a m/billion bucks trying to figure out just how that seed
is useful to humankind, it only makes sense that you be given time to get 
something back for the effort and money, so that more others will also have
an incentive to do the same kind of thing.

|> 
|>   The US has been importing herbs and plants from tropical countries and
|>   developing some kind of hybrid or resistant varieties and saying that
|>   the people in the countries from which those plants were taken have no
|>   right to develop disease-resistant breeds in their own way. How do you
|>   justify this ?

You should read the fine print more carefully. The US just said that they would
not force their companies doing this sort of thing to necessarily agree to share
their findings' results and profits with the countries where they got their stuff
from. There is nothing to prevent the companies involved from working out their
own agreements with the countries or regions of countries involved as regards
such sharing. In fact, some drug companies have already worked out such agreements
with some central American countries.


|> Rajesh Raman


-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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From: sgupta@cvbnet@prime.com (Sunil Gupta)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Multiple H1 from Canada
Keywords: Multiple, H1, Canada
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:13:48 GMT
Organization: Computervision, A Prime Computer Company, Bedford, MA, USA

Hi folks,

  I am trying to gather information on getting multiple H1 from Canada.
  Does somebody know which city in Canada is the best place to go to for
  multiple H1 nowdays? By "best" I mean where you can apply and get the 
  visa on the same day. I guess till sometime back most of the people used
  to go to Quebeck city but nowdays it takes 2-3 days to get the multiple H1
  there. (A friend of mine talked to the consulate there and they told him
  this.)

 Thanks in advance

 -Sunil

 (sgupta@aecmail.prime.com)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kash@owlnet.rice.edu (Kumar C Ashok)
Subject: F-2 visa
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:09:35 GMT

Hi netters,

I would like know what the scene is for obtaining F-2 visa for spouse in
India. I heard that Madras is tightening the issue of F-2 especially if 
you on are on the verge of finishing studies. How are the other counsalates
in this regard ? Also is it possible to go to any of the other counsalates
for F-2 (i live close to Madras) ? What kind of a story I will have to concoct
up if I decide to go to a different counsalate than Madras ? What kind of
additional documents will help in getting F-2 (i mean other than the usual I-20/dependent) ? Please e-mail me directly. Thanks a lot !

 - ashok (kash@owlnet.rice.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gauri@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Gauri Pavate)
Subject: Re: In the wake of RamaJanmaBHoomi
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:50:29 GMT

indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM () writes:

>To: rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
>Subject: Re: In the wake of RamaJanmaBhoomi

>>
>>     I challenge you to prove this statement. I have been listening this
>> bullshit from pseudo-seculars for long time. Is not sikander bakht, a high
>> rank official in BJP a muslim.

>   Raja! I believe this fellow is just pouring out trash on the net. So if we 
>   expect some consolidated proof or evidence,  it is useless. For his logics
>   work the other way. 

>   Correct, Sikandar Bhakt is a Vice-President of BJP. Next to 
>   Murali Manohar Joshi. 
>


	I learnt recently that the West Bengal BJP leader, Mr. Muzaffar
Khan and 200+ Muslim workers resigned from BJP on Dec. 6 after
the attack on Babri Masjid.  It seems quite likely that more Muslims
will leave the party as the hold of VHP/RSS increases over the BJP.

						Gauri.