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Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Stephen King interview this am
From: baird@cobber.cord.edu (Galvatron)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:31:02 GMT
Organization: Concordia College, Moorhead, Minnesota


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In article <cdslAUq00iV1039l5u@andrew.cmu.edu> mf2w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marc Kevin Fischer) writes:

> 
>
>Okay I forgot about the kill function (I'm new here and might need a
>little help)

	I would disagree...you need a LOT of help.

>but it still doesn't excuse the single-mindedness of all
>these King freaks who post here. I'd think even King fans would be bored
>of all this and start writing about the ninety billion other writers,
>directors, artists, etc. whose work falls under the category of horror.

	90 billion?  Is this sarcasim or are you really this ignorant?

>But then again with shit like the excerpt from the post below, it's
>obvious that some people can't think beyond the "fan club" level of
>interest in a subject or individual. Oh well. 
>
>
	It's also obvious some people shouldn't be reading this newsgroup
	if they are going to be total idiots.

>>This morning I saw an interview on Good Morning America with Stephen
>>King.  Joan Lunden interviewed him for a few minutes.
>
>Too bad - probably not even enough time to reach an orgasm 

	No, but i'm sure you and your hand do a pretty good job of it at
night.

>
>Blah blah blah. .........

la de da da!

-The Phantom





									
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From: tb0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Keenan Bowman)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Dario Argento
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:45:54 GMT
Organization: Software Engineering Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

.. Argento has also produced a number of films - many of which
.. seem to have have his unique style:   DEMONS, DEMONS (?), BLOODY
.. BIRD (excellent!!!),DAWN OF THE DEAD (Romero's) and THE DEVIL'S
.. DAUGHTER.

Although Argento did produce Demons I and II he was not involved in
Michael Soavi's first film BLOODY BIRD (U.S. STAGEFRIGHT). Bloody Bird
was produced by Italian schlockmeister Joe D'Amato (in a break from
his recent slew of softporn stuff). Soavi's then directed THE CHURCH
w/ Argento producing as well as serving as Assistant Director of Terry
Gilliam's Adventures of Baron Munchaussen (sp?).
Is THE DEVIL'S DAUGHTER (aka THE SECT) the new film from Soavi? Has
anybody seen this available on video in the US yet? I've been waiting
for this one for a while.

Also a warning to people following up of Lamberto Bava's career. After
he finished Demons I and II he had a falling out with Argento and made
Demons III: the Ogre (not a sequel) and Graveyard Disturbance. Both of
these films are horrible to the point of almost not being horror films
at all.

Any fans of Lucio Fulci out there?  Anyone seen any of his new releases?
Newsgroups: alt.horror,rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
From: michaili@blondie.cs.wisc.edu (Afroditi Michailidi)
Subject: Re: Sleepwalkers: A Review (no spoilers)
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 08:13:30 GMT

In article <rauser.703107833@sfu.ca> rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
 
         [much stuff deleted - the bottomline is 'save your money']

Maybe King should write a novel about a successful author cursed to have all
films-made-out-of-his-works megaflop? :-)

As an aside: you call that no spoilers?

>Richard J. Rauser


                                  Afroditi

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From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (wayne)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: The Hitcher (SPOILERS, sort of)
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:49:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Apr13.164148.29400@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> roxy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (r.prisco) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.034630.5140@rigel.econ.uga.edu>, hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (wayne) writes:
>> 
>
>
>>   WARNING:  This discussion is beginning to accumulate SPOILERS
>
>
>
>> 
>> In article <1992Apr13.032110.28519@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> roxy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (r.prisco) writes:
>
>I never got the feeling that the hitcher was supernatural in any way while
>watching the film.  I just thought he was crazy!  But a very intelligent,
>single-minded kind of crazy ... 
>That connection was kind of 'other-worldly' but I'd be interested to know why
>you thought Hauer was supernatural ...
>
   Well, alright, but I don't usually do this sort of thing   :)

   Just about everything that happened.  Hauer managed a dozen times to
   appear at times and in places where the kid was without any possibility
   of having that kind of information.  There was no ID on Hauer, the
   authorities were not able to find out anything about him.  The
   killing spree was without motivation and completely surreal, this
   is explainable by your suggestion that he was single-minded crazy,
   but that doesn't explain anything else.  Where did the finger in
   the french fries come from?  Hauer was approaching, but wasn't
   there yet.  How does Hauer know where the kid and the girl are
   shacked up?

   I'm not really looking for answers to these questions, just offer
   them to suggest that there were many unexplainable things about
   the Hitcher character. The simplest interpretation is that
   he is supernatural (and by that I don't mean a ghost or anything,
   but sort of an elemental that is probably an aspect of the
   kid's persona).  At this point I don't think it is warranted to
   talk about if the murders were real or imaginary, or if the
   kid really "kills" Hauer or not.  There's too much symbolism
   to really attempt to decide what's real and what's not.
   The Hitcher represents a choice that the kid has to make.

   wayne
From: davidc@quark.ansto.gov.au (David Carroll)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Witches
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:48:22 GMT
Organization: Australian Nuclear Science and Technology Organisation

Hi, how are you all?

I'm looking for examples to use in an essay on Witches in Literature and
I'm actually having trouble thinking them up. Either the poor old
witch hasn't been given much serious treatment or I'm missing something.
Can anyone help?

I've got 'Witches of Eastwick' by John Updike, 'The Witching Hour' by Anne
Rice and that's about it. Throw in Thessaly from Sandman, and Terry
Pratchett and Bewitched for the less serious minded.

If anyone can give me a list of further novels/short stories to add
to this I would be very grateful.

Build high,
            ^o^
From: obusek@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brenda Obusek)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: King's NEEDFUL THINGS
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:16:36 GMT
Reply-To: obusek@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brenda Obusek)
Distribution: na
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.horror, hinklere@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Kolchak) writes:
>
>The topic of NEEDFUL THINGS as a film has already been mentioned, and I'm
>curious to know:  Who would you cast as Leland Gaunt?
>
How 'bout Anthony Hopkins!?


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From: ruth@bach.udel.edu (Ruth Heckert)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Stephen King interview this am
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:29:53 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

This morning I saw an interview on Good Morning America with Stephen
King.  Joan Lunden interviewed him for a few minutes.
     
For those of you curious about this type of thing, he was wearing a
white linen sports jacket and pants, black t-shirt and socks, and 
blue "comfy shoes."

It seemed the interview was a push for the new movie "sleepwalkers."
Joan introduced the interview mentioning that this movie is the
"1st King story written directly for the screen." 
She then asked him how he is doing.
King's first comments were "I'm doin ok.  Who writes these lead ins
anyway?"

He described the "sleepwalkers" as a cross between the werewolf myth
and the vampire myth, taking from people to survive. They take some
"psychic essence," not blood.  He said that the fun part is watching
them change their form when they get angry.\

Joan asked him what it is like to have all that (horror) stuff floating
around in his head all the time.  And he said something about if it
was too much he'd be in an asylum somewhere.   He said  "it's a very
fine line. You never know when someone's going to SNAP" (he shouted
the last word at her and she jumped.  He got a sly grin on his face.)

She asked him what he's like and he said that the image of himself
that he wants and likes to portray is that of "just a guy from Maine."

As in her last interview with him, she brought up how he feels about how
his stories do when they're converted into movies. And, again, he said
that he's happy with a lot of them and some of them are "clunks."
She asked him something, I couldn't hear what because my dog barked,
and he said "my least favorite is Maximum Overdrive" (which he directed
as well as wrote) and he said that the remaining claim to fame from
that flic is that Marla Maples is in it (at the end, I believe) and
when she and her "
relationship" with "donnie" was made public, newscasts kept using her
clip from Maximum Overdrive to show who she is.

Joan asked him whether he liked directing or wanted to stick to writing.
He said it's like a guy who goes to New York and plays 3 card monty
and loses $50. He walks away and says "now I know how he did it" and
goes back so he can win his $50 back.  King said he will direct again.


In any case, that was the interview.  For some reason I was hoping to
hear more interesting news...like what's happening with Golden Years,
is the Stand going to make it all the way to broadcast, etc.


Cheers,
Ruth Heckert
ruth@brahms.udel.edu
From: ray.chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com (ray.chramega)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Dario Argento
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:10:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: mixcom.1992Apr15.061046.10742
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.

In <1992Apr13.180546.311@mala.bc.ca> epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp) writes:

>In article <1992Apr13.060202.21298@mixcom.com>, ray.chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com (ray.chramega) writes:
>> 
>> DEMON - This is about people in modern times who are unsuspectingly coaxed
>[description deleted]
>> 
>> DEMON 2 - The demon makeup is much improved in the sequel in my opinion, but
>[description delete]

>? Are you sure these are Argento movies?  I don't have my Video Guide handy,
>but I'm pretty sure these were by either Lucio Fulci or Mario Bava (I think
>DEMON may have been directed by Mario's son, Whatsisname Bava).

 You may be right about this! I think Argento only produced Demons and
Demons 2. But I could have sworn he directed Demons 2. Let me know when you
find your book, OK?

Ray

-- 
"...This has been a test of the emergency broadcasting system. If this had
 been an actual emergency, the attention signal you just heard would have
 been followed by mass panic, total chaos and screaming."

Ray Chramega                    Email: Chramega@mixcom.COM or mmwwmm@mixcom.COM
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: 6500cws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Christopher Wade Skinner)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Lovecraft/Barker
Date: 16 Apr 92 04:20:36 GMT

In article <Apr.13.13.33.59.1992.2918@gandalf.rutgers.edu> cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt) writes:

>6500cws@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Christopher Wade Skinner) writes:

>> OB Cthulu and Frank B. Long ..., have you all read perhaps the _worst_ short
>> story ever written in the mythos, _The Hounds of Tindalos_, by ol' FBL ...?  
>> It is truely bad.  One might even say aaaaaaaaaa...

>Funny, but "Hounds" is possibly Long's most-anthologized story.  It would seem
>Chris's low estimate of it is a minority opinion.

I'm curious, oh Jersey Epopt, if you've read it yourself.  "Most-
anthologized" hardly equals good.  It's choppy and *really*
obvious, and indeed, someone finds a piece of paper on which
the dying narrator has written "aagh" as he is attacked.

Please, its pure Monty Python.

cws
From: jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan)
Subject: Re: King's NEEDFUL THINGS
Keywords: King
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
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Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:48:51 GMT
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In article <44487@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, hinklere@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Kolchak) writes:
> Ok.  This may not be the right place for this, but here goes just the same.
> (Prepares to be flamed)
>
> The topic of NEEDFUL THINGS as a film has already been mentioned, and I'm
> curious to know:  Who would you cast as Leland Gaunt?
>
> Not my intention to mindlessly waste bandwidth, mind you.  As a novelist
> and a screenwriter, I'm genuinely curious.
>
> Rob Hinkle
>
> PS:  My choice, by the way, would be James Mason.  A little old, I know, but
> he'd be great.  (Picture it:  James Mason uttering the line, "Fee-late me!
> You heard me!  Gobble my crank!"  I can actually see it...)
>
> RH

The first person that pops into my mind is Robert Englund, just because
I immediately associate evilness with him... however, wasn't Gaunt an
"attractive man" who caught the eye of every one in Castle Rock? Maybe
someone like Pierce Bronson ... or maybe someone who doesn't really have
the 'knock-out looks' to show how he can twist everyone's perception of
the truth. Just IMO's and I'm only going by looks, not really by acting
ability.

Misti
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From: david.vaughan@rose.com (david vaughan)
Subject: T.E.D. KLEIN
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:57:58 GMT
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Date Entered: 04-13-92 18:08

-> Klein's _Dark Gods_ is an excellent collection.  "Children of the
-> Kingdom" has a Lovecraftian theme although it never actually states
-> that it is in the same "universe".  "Black Man with a Horn", however,
-> is definitely meant to be in the Mythos -- the protagonist is an old
-> friend of Lovecraft's.

Have you heard of any recent books from Klein?  I have Dark Gods and his
novel The Ceremonies (also an excellent work).  I also have a few other
short pieces by him scattered in various magazines and anthologies.
Regrettably, he is not a prolific author, and finding new material by
him is a definite challenge.

David Vaughan
Hamilton, Ontario, Can.

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From: glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad)
Subject: Re: Sleepwalkers: A Review (no spoilers)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:50:58 GMT

sef@kithrup.COM (Sean Eric Fagan) takes  rauser@fraser.sfu.ca 
(Richard John Rauser) to task for his review of "Sleepwalkers":

>Why not [Sleepwalkers]?  They need a name, don't they?

Sure, why not "Fred", or "Incontinents"?

>Uhm, actually, that was explained within the first two minutes of the film.

The fact that a paragraph-long blurb about these creatures is displayed
on the screen at the beginning of the film hardly compensates for the
absurd nature of the creatures themselves.  Sure, it's *explained*, but 
the explanation is hardly satisfactory, nor does it mean that any story
told about these things is going to be compelling or even coherent.

They're vunerable to cat scratches.  WHY?  Why do the *cats* give a damn
about the Sleepwalkers?  What's the function of the incestuous relationship
in the story?  What's "life force"?  Why do the sleepwalkers need it?
I don't care that it's briefly explained to me that they have powers of
morphing, I want to know why this is important to the story at hand.

This was a Mad-Lib of a movie: King pulled out his create-a-monster 
template and stuck them in a generic plot.

And for all the horror-bigwig cameos, the dismemberments and cat-attacks
owed a lot more to Monty Python than anything in that genre.

-- Clay
From: jlavine@hamp.hampshire.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: writers in horror
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:14:55 GMT
Organization: Hampshire College

I Post
I would like tofind out if there are other Horror Writers on the network
willing to X-change and critique manuscripts? Please let me know. I am J.
Lavine at Hampshire College also known as Fang! I have lots to say on the genre
549-4600 x 496. Thanks.and I am a poetry-writer as well! Writers let's get together!  546
From: luther@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Luther)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Jacob's Ladder (was Re: Flatliners
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:38:02 GMT
Organization: US Naval Research Laboratory, Acoustics Division

In article <92Apr8.213814edt.15561@me.utoronto.ca> steinman writes:

>>In article <92Apr5.185143edt.20187@me.utoronto.ca> steinman writes:
>
>>>	If it was a dying VISION (given by an angel, say) that just makes
>>>it a worse movie from my point of view. WHY give such a vision? Nothing
>>>is accomplished by it, no good at all.
>>>
>
>
>Of course, I didn't say the above ">>".  That was Seawasp, who is
>apparently as dogmatic about not liking JL as I am about liking JL.
>To each his own, as it were.  'cept I'm right ;-)
>--
>Dave! - a guy who likes mindless entertainment as much as the next alias.


OOPS! 1000 'pologies.


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From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Horror magazines
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:47:26 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <92105.235942IO10033@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IO10033@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jim Troutman) writes:
> Some of you might be interested in the NightWorld horror magazine.
> I have included one of their ads below (and no, I don't work for them).
> 
[...]
> Rich Chizmar, Editor, Cemetery Dance Magazine - "NightWorld looks damn
> good!  I'm impressed by it's ambitious publishing schedule!"
> 
> Barry Hoffman, Editor, Gauntlet Magazine - "NightWorld looks like a
> winner!"
> 
You know, this is one of the things that I *hate* about the small
press people.  (I used to publish _Lights Out!---The Robert R.
McCammon Newsletter_, so I used to be one of the small press people.)
I know *why* they do it, but I hate to see small press magazines use
quotes from other small press magazine publisher.  (They do it because
they can't get anybody else to comment on them.)  There's a certain
level of ego-boosting that goes on where an editor of a magazine gets
his name printed in ads for other magazines, even when their comments
are generic as hell ("...like a winner!" Please....).

One of them, _After Hours_, once had an ad that featured a dozen
quotes, all from other small press publishers.  Who cares?

Hunter
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From: jlavine@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: fang
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 13:45:17 GMT

My name is fang. I like to write and I don't usually bite. I write more than I
read.. but that's nothing to bleed about is it? Sea Wasp... your opinions are
intriguing. Let's talk... why note post me something? I like your nickname.
Maybe you are just like Buffalo Bill in "SILENCE".... hope to find out.
YOURS GHOULLY. FAng forever.
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 10:56:38 EDT
From: <00124961@ysub.ysu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: King's NEEDFUL THINGS
Distribution: na

A choice that I might think about is Anthony Hopkins.  Although he is a bit
overexposed at the moment.  The thought of Richard O Brian is good, too.
But Hopkins can be sooooo evil when he wants to be.

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: roxy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (r.prisco)
Subject: Re: The Hitcher
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 03:21:10 GMT
Summary: I'll bite ....

In article <1992Apr12.223434.3568@rigel.econ.uga.edu>, hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (wayne) writes:
> 
> 
> In article <1992Apr12.154506.4995@ac.dal.ca> joker@ac.dal.ca writes:
> >Well there was so much talk about Sk lately that i thought that i would post 
> >somthing different for a change. Not that i have anything against him.
> >	How many of you out there have seen the movie the Hitcher.
> >I thought it was great. it was the type of movie that you could watch over and
> >over again and it doesn't matter if you know what is going to happen. 
> >thought that the reaction of the characters were half believable unlike
> >some movies that i've seen. Another movie that i thought was quite good 
> 
>    I thought _The Hitcher_ was great, and recommend it highly.  I
>    could never figure out whether I was performing a great feat of
>    analysis in figuring out the symbolism, or whether it was
>    very heavyhanded.  I've also noticed that this movie does not


I've seen The Hitcher , and regarded it as kind of a strange 'coming of age'
film  - I don't want to post about the ending, but wasn't how it actually
ended what the Hitcher REALLY wanted, all along????  Waht other kinds of
symbolism did you see in it????  I'm kind of curious - I liked the movie, but
felt just a little unappeased at the end ...

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From: IO10033@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jim Troutman)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Horror magazines
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:59:42 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

Some of you might be interested in the NightWorld horror magazine.
I have included one of their ads below (and no, I don't work for them).

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