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From: barga@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Roger S. Barga)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Noodle rods
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:20:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.46113
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

I have seen people use ultralight fishing rods (noodle rods) to fish
everything from trout to king salmon, and frankly this light line, 
big fish application looks like a hell of a lot of fun.  I would 
appreciate hearing from those of you who fish with noodle rods about
how well they handle salmon, steelhead, how sensitive they are, how
to best fish with them (drifting with bait, flies?), etc.  Also, who
sells them and what type of reel to pair with it.  I recently saw that
G.Loomis sells a 11'6" ultralight rated for the IGFA 4# class (whatever
that means) - anyone use this one?

Thanks, 

Roger.
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From: jab55062@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The World Reknown Jason Boskey)
Subject: Info request: Northern Illinois
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:32:36 GMT

Can anyone give me an update on how fishing has been in Northern Illinois?  
I'll be there for Thanksgiving and I was wondering if anywhere would be worth
my while to try.  I already plan on trying the Kankakee River, but if there's 
anywhere else, please let me know.

Bosk-- Bosk@uiuc.edu


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From: sepeczi _joe@macn15.rtsg.mot.com
Subject: Re: ice fishing in Minnesota
Organization: CSG Group
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:00:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.220319.186@mcnc.org> kevins@mcnc.org (Kevin Siefering)
writes:
>This subject was pretty well covered by a previous poster.
>Just a few more hints.
>
>Fish for walleyes during the 2 hour period just before and after
>first light and last light.  Switch to Northerns during the middle
>of the day.  Walleyes may also bite better on cloudy days or when
>the snow cover on top the ice is heavier.  Walleyes prefer smaller
>baits, like shiners, or other minnows about 2-3 inches long.  For
>notherns use sucker minnows AT LEAST 4" long and up to 8 inches or
>so.  Fish for northerns in the same places you find them in the
>summer.  I prefer a depth of 9-15 feet on "humps" or points which
>have cabbage weeds coming up from the bottom.  Walleyes are usually
>out a little deeper in 15-25 feet of water on the same structure.
>Look for other fishermen or ice houses in likely looking areas.
>They will usually locate on hot spots and stay there, so its
>the best place to start.  Ask questions and learn from the other
>fishermen.  We're usually a friendly lot, especially if you offer
>one of those beers that you are packing!
>
>Kevin
>
		This will be my first year that I'm going to seriously go after big fish
(Walleye and Northern) during the winter season.  In previous years, I confined
myself to panfish icefishing.
		One question I have is that when icefishing for walleye, I've read that
around first ice aggresive walleye can be found in shallower water around dusk
and dawn on rocky bottoms .  Then after a few weeks of ice the walleye
generally move out to deeper water and become less active until late in the
winter a few weeks before ice-out when they again become active.
		What has your experience been regarding first, middle and last ice?
From: kuusama@kaarne.cs.tut.fi (Kuusama Juha,,,,)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: too cold
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:43:30 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Tampere, Dep. of Computer Science ,Finland 
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kuusama@kaarne.cs.tut.fi
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Originator: kuusama@kaarne.cs.tut.fi

 In article <1992Nov11.035905.20270@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu> lebaron@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (LeBaron Briggs) writes:
>
>Too cold to fish? Never. Last Sunday in the snow showers and 20 knots
>northeast wind the mackerel fishing was great at the east end of the
>Cape Cod Canal. Great fun!
> 
Well, have you ever tried fishing with spinner reels on a lake, when
temperature is below freezing? Also, even a thinniest ice cover makes
it impossible to use lures.

Yes, sometimes it is really too cold! (-15 Celsius outside... sigh...)
--
Juha
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From: dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?)
Subject: Re: Looking  for  a GIF of a XXXX Salmon/Steelhead!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:57:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.142400.5222@ALEX.ims.bellcore.com> fred@slayer.bellcore.com (Fred Anderson) writes:
>
>
>Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
>
>Hi,
>Can someone out there help me. I have a sun workstation runing
>X windows. I would love to have a picture of a Bass as my background
>screen. I can only seem to find GIF pictures of salt water fish. 
>
>Does anybody have a GIF of a Bass or other fresh water fish or 
>know of a FTP site where I can obtain one? 
>
>Thanks,
>
>Fred Anderson
>Bellcore
>fred@charles.bellcore.com

I second that motion...except I'd love a nice steelhead, salmon (any type),
or even a great outdoor shot of a fishermen with one of these fish going
airborn or something would be great?  I've been scanning the misc pictures
newsgroup for a long time and I've only seen fish pictures of sunfish like
Pumpkinseed, Bluegill, Crappie, etc.  I think I saw a bass once...a long
time ago.  Don't fishermen scan pictures or something?  Let's see those
great shots!

Brian D.

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From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: Info request: Northern Illinois
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:47:14 GMT

jab55062@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The World Reknown Jason Boskey) writes:

>Can anyone give me an update on how fishing has been in Northern Illinois?  
>I'll be there for Thanksgiving and I was wondering if anywhere would be worth
>my while to try.  I already plan on trying the Kankakee River, but if there's 
>anywhere else, please let me know.

>Bosk-- Bosk@uiuc.edu

Check out the power plant lakes.  Usually very good fishing this time of
year. -Roger.
From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Fishing line Poll
Keywords: Get your votes in
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:33:18 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

In article <1992Nov18.020449.17590@mlb.semi.harris.com> jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com writes:
>How about everyone puting in their 2cents worth on fishing lines. Favorites
>for different applications would be good, but any bad experiences with lines

Stren 1# thru 8# for spin fishing to "small time" ice fishing. Over 8# I go
with 'any brand will do' except for the Great Lakes level wind - that's
loaded with Stren. Tried Trilene(sp) but found it too limp to resist twist!
Also tried Camelion by Maxima but, although the line WORKES just great I
CAN'T SEE IT! I Do use it as a leader material for fly fishing and trolling;
6' of 6#

Sientific Angler fly line (Air Cel) - used it for years. Not TOO picky about
fly leaders but I DO buy the pre-fab tapered - S.A. is my preferance but I
can be swayed according to price

--
Joe Whittemore - From where the Westfield
                      Meets the Westfield
                         By the Westfield
                            In Huntington (MA)

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From: barga@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Roger S. Barga)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Fly tying equipment
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:50:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.45991
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

I would like to begin tying my own jigs and wet flies for steelhead drift
fishing and would appreciate any recommendations for the equipment I will 
need to do this.  I stopped by my local fishing tackle shop and they seemed
too inclinded to sell me everything on their shelves.  Since all I will be
tying up are jigs and an occasional wet fly I would like to purchase only
the bare essentials.  Any recommendations on what equipment I can use to
get by on or where to order it from would be greatly appreciated.

-Roger.
From: imsgtcar@sinc.oscs.montana.edu (Tim Carlson)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Fishing line Poll
Keywords: Get your votes inn
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:05:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: coe.1992Nov19.040525.26334
Organization: Montana State University, Bozeman  MT

In article <6877@sniff.wfo.dec.com> jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore) writes:

>
>Sientific Angler fly line (Air Cel) - used it for years. Not TOO picky about
>fly leaders but I DO buy the pre-fab tapered - S.A. is my preferance but I
>can be swayed according to price
>

I'll agree with th SA fly line, its pretty good for the price.  I use to
use the SA leaders and tippet material also, but now I have switched to
the Orvis leaders, knotted or not knotted :), and the Orvis tippet
material which has to be the strongest per width stuff around IMHO.

Tim


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Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: DENNIS_@NCSU.EDU (DGA)
Subject: Re: Fishing line Poll
Keywords: Get your votes inn
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:25:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.040525.26334@coe.montana.edu> imsgtcar@sinc.oscs.montana.edu (Tim Carlson) writes:
>From: imsgtcar@sinc.oscs.montana.edu (Tim Carlson)
>Subject: Re: Fishing line Poll
>Keywords: Get your votes inn
>Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 04:05:25 GMT
>In article <6877@sniff.wfo.dec.com> jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore) writes:
>
>>
>>Sientific Angler fly line (Air Cel) - used it for years. Not TOO picky about
>>fly leaders but I DO buy the pre-fab tapered - S.A. is my preferance but I
>>can be swayed according to price
>>
>
>I'll agree with th SA fly line, its pretty good for the price.  I use to
>use the SA leaders and tippet material also, but now I have switched to
>the Orvis leaders, knotted or not knotted :), and the Orvis tippet
>material which has to be the strongest per width stuff around IMHO.
>
>Tim
>

Whoa, Tim!  We may be a bit backward "flyfishing wise" over here in 
Carolina, but any time this Ol'boy sees a reel with a $40 flyline (SA 
Air Cel Ultra) loaded up, he doesn't consider the owner to be price 
conscious.

I like Ultra, but have used the premium version of several other brands and 
have found them to be perfectly fine.  I have found that most quality lines 
perform more consistantly good than I do.  I prefer knotless leaders 
to knotted if I am going to purchase them.  I have used many brands, some 
seem a little better (less memory) than others.  I must admit that if I find 
a deal on Orvis knotless leaders I get a feeling similar to the one I get 
when I spon a nice fish, before he spots me.

I haven't used Orvis tipet material, but I will now.  

DGA
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?)
Subject: Re: Just Say 'AAArgrghh'
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:57:58 GMT

In article <BxywDu.HAw@apollo.hp.com> cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd) writes:
>    I think stomach pumping is a little extreme. If flies are hatching
>you should be able to find them on the water. If not, you should be
>able to find nymphs under stones. If none of the above, use you
>powers of deduction (Swag it). Minimizing the handling of a fish
>is important in C&R survival rates. Ramming a pump down the fish's
>throat is not minimal handling, although I suppose it will ensure
>the existence of at least one hungry fish in the brook. IMHO fly
>fishermen have a little too much tendency to confuse a river with
>a biology lab. If you simply must see the stomach contents, kill
>it quickly, slit the intestines. then eat it (well, cook it first).
>Otherwise release the fish without removing it from the water.
>
>
>                                         jc in snowy me.

I agree...but have you ever been on the river when there's 4 or 5
different species of bugs swirling around and you've tried matching
them all to no avail?  Pump the stomach and you might find they are
eating nymphs of some sort that you didn't even see!  Again, I agree
with your approach, i.e. try all the other methods of determining what
the fish are eating first, *then* if all else fails, you can gently try
a stomach pump.  (No, I don't *jam* it down the little feeeshy's throat!)

Brian D.

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From: dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?)
Subject: Re: Fishing Report: Pacific Ocean (from shore)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:05:35 GMT

In article <1ebhjtINNn65@agate.berkeley.edu> markh@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Mark Hurwitz) writes:
>
> [lot's of stuff removed for space]
>
>squid).   Following the advice of an old salt who wandered by, I tied a
>4 oz. weight to the end of the surf leader, baited up, and cast out.  I found 
>it difficult to cast this large weight for any significant distance - but
>did my best.  The main limitation seemed to be how much tension my right
>index finger could withstand restraining the line as I swung the rod in an arc.
>Perhaps a glove would have helped - how do other people handle this?
>Even my best casts landed smack in the middle of crashing waves - no way
>was I going to get beyond them.  And as I said, this was a calm day.  I'm
>sure I could have thrown a lighter weight a bit farther, but I'm almost
>equally certain that a lighter weight would have been dragged hither and
>yon by the currents, and would soon have washed ashore!

I find it easier to cast heavy weights by using a baitcasting reel that 
allows easy access to the spool with my thumb.  Combined with a heavier
rod, this works well.  It's a lot easier to hold my fat thumb on the spool
of a level-wind than it is to hold the line against the spool of a spin-cast
reel.  Other than that, all I can say is get some tall chest waders and
go out a little further into the surf (watch those feet!).

BD
From: morej@augustana.ab.ca
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: <None>
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:33:58 MST
Organization: Augustana University College, Camrose, aAlberta

Well what a joy to find this newsgroup!!
Now that the -30 degree wheater ison the way I thought the only 
escape was  going to be fishing  video's.  Just the brief discussion's
on rod weight and types, and the mention of Stripers has my blood 
stirring.  I live in Alberta Canada now and was, at one time an avid
Striper fisherman on the central Oregon coast. Now I am an avid Flyfisherman
trying to learn to double haul.  But I guess  my question to the group is
"Does anyone know of stripers being planted or released anywhere in North of
Nevada??" I don't want secret spots just maybe general locations.  While living
on the coast responses would include such gems like "in the water" or " in the
Mouth is where I catch 'em" Please save me from those kind of helpful hints. 
Any other ideas would be welcomed.

thanks 
Joel Morello

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From: dixon@spot.Colorado.EDU (Life is real?)
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:30:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.093358.9737@augustana.ab.ca> morej@augustana.ab.ca writes:
>Well what a joy to find this newsgroup!!
>Now that the -30 degree wheater ison the way I thought the only 
>escape was  going to be fishing  video's.  Just the brief discussion's
>on rod weight and types, and the mention of Stripers has my blood 
>stirring.  I live in Alberta Canada now and was, at one time an avid
>Striper fisherman on the central Oregon coast. Now I am an avid Flyfisherman
>trying to learn to double haul.  But I guess  my question to the group is
>"Does anyone know of stripers being planted or released anywhere in North of
>Nevada??" I don't want secret spots just maybe general locations.  While living
>on the coast responses would include such gems like "in the water" or " in the
>Mouth is where I catch 'em" Please save me from those kind of helpful hints. 
>Any other ideas would be welcomed.
>
>thanks 
>Joel Morello
>

Yo Joe!  I *just* moved back to Oregon...my beloved home state (NATIVE bumper
sticker and all)!  Tell us more about that striper fishing!  I enjoy fishing
for a variety of species, and didn't even know that you could fish for
stripers in Oregon...

Brian D.
briand@cv.hp.com

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From: trexelj@pell2l24.alleg.edu (Jeremy Trexel)
Subject: Muskie
Organization: Allegheny College
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:50:41 GMT

Are there any other muskie fishermen out there?  If so, I'd like to here  
from you and exchange information/experiences.  Cabin fever is already  
starting for me and it's only November!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: jholsapp@encore.com (Jeff Holsapple)
Subject: Re: Fishing line Poll
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:29:15 GMT
Keywords: Get your votes in

In article <1992Nov18.020449.17590@mlb.semi.harris.com> jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com writes:
>How about everyone puting in their 2cents worth on fishing lines. Favorites
>for different applications would be good, but any bad experiences with lines

I use Ande line for everything - bait, trolling, casting, and bottom fishing.
It's fairly inexpensive and holds up well to saltwater.

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From: morej@augustana.ab.ca
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: STRIPER INFO? re:<none>
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:55:30 MST
Organization: Augustana University College, Camrose, aAlberta

The file I posted which ended up as <none> was to find out about
Striper fishing in the inland northwest.  Being an ex-striper fisherman
from the coast I am looking to start once more. The only trouble is I am 
in Alberta Canada.  My Question is does anyone know of a stocking plan
of stripers inland and north of Nevada? 

Also I would be interested if others fly fish for Northern Pike and if
they want to exchange fish stories. I started this spring flyfishing for 
Northern  in my bellyboat and had  a BLAST!

Thanks
Joel Morello
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From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: February fishing advice
Keywords: advice wanted
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:56:19 GMT

sharpe@53iss5.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Dave Sharpe) writes:

>Simply put..four Bass fishermen from Canada looking for advice on where
>to fish, stay, etc on a potential winter break trip (February). 

>Of course we'll be looking to head towards Georgia, Florida or 
>anywhere warm (a bar and a golf course nearby would be great)

> 
>Any recommendations would be appreciated.a

There is a place called Patrick's Fish Farm in southern Georgia.  Its
to the east of the interstate near the Florida border.  Incredible fishing.
Late Feb and early March are the best times.  Numerous small lakes that
are easy to fish.  Live native shiners (wild) are the best.  10-12 #
bass are common.  Camping and RV spots on site at very low prices, or
at least they were some years ago.  Pick me up on your way down.  -Roger


>Thanks!
>--
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From: tomg@cv.hp.com (Thomas J. Gilg)
Subject: Re: Just Say 'AAArgrghh'
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:24:08 GMT

John Cloyd (cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com) wrote:
>     I think stomach pumping is a little extreme. If flies are hatching
> you should be able to find them on the water.

We were filming a fishing video last year during the Deschutes (Oregon)
Salmon Fly Hatch.   It was obvious what they feeding on, right ? 

Wrong.  While everyone else was tossing stoneflies, we were tossing
subsurface mayflies and doing much better than most.   It was a brief
stomach pump session that gave us the clue.   Stomach pumping is
extreme compared to all other methods, but it still has its place.

Thomas Gilg
tomg@cv.hp.com

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From: cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd)
Subject: re: Bowfishing
Originator: cloyd_j@face_plant
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:22:24 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA

ah what the hell...

I remember my first and last bowfishing trip.
I staked out on Essex St. in Salem Mass., just
in front of a sporting goods store. There was 
a really nice bow in the front window. I cast at
that damned thing for seven straight hours and
couldn't get so much as a follow. I tried every-
thing too; dries, wets, streamers, nymphs, but
nooo, it just sat there with that smug reversed
smile they have. So I finally gave up, deciding
that bows just weren't worth fishing for.

next issue : ice fishing

                            jc in me.
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From: rich@devnet.la.locus.com (Rich Silva)
Subject: Re: Fishing Report: Pacific Ocean (from shore)
Reply-To: rich@locus.com
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:45:36 GMT

In article <1ebhjtINNn65@agate.berkeley.edu>, markh@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Mark Hurwitz) writes:
|> 
|> 	There were quite a few shore-fishermen, mostly using medium weight
|> equipment (not heavy duty surf rods) to cast grubby, bass-lure-like things
|> with sliding sinkers.  I don't really understand why sliding sinkers were
|> being used, as the technique was simply to cast and retrieve (seems to me
|> they didn't need the sliding part of the sliding sinker rig).  But I digress.

    The sliding sinker slides up the line, the grub falls slower...
    I'd be surprised if they were doing a constant retrieve.  Probably
    more like a "pump" retrieve, that would pick up the sinker, then
    let it fall again...

|> 
|> I found 
|> it difficult to cast this large weight for any significant distance - but
|> did my best.  The main limitation seemed to be how much tension my right
|> index finger could withstand restraining the line as I swung the rod in an arc.
|> Perhaps a glove would have helped - how do other people handle this?

    What I used to do, (actually up near San Franciscon, San Gorgonio
    Beach, I think it was...) is wade out as far as I could, watching
    the waves.  I'd loosly time things, follow a wave out... Then
    cast.  Now, I found (painfully) that "power casting" just didnt do
    the trick, the harder I tried, the more frustrated I got.  The
    trick is to make the rod do the work, by making sure you load it
    properly.  I used to rest my weight on the ground, then lightly
    pump the rod a couple of times, this would usually get a decent
    bend.  Then to cast, you start slowly forward, accelerating
    smoothly.  If you force it, it doesnt work.  Let go about 10:00
    10:30 or so...  The idea is to cast into the air, not out...  nor
    at the water.... I used to practise in a football field, with a
    little sack with sand in it (used to be called tobacco bags...)

-- 
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