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Info-Mac Digest             Fri,  9 Oct 92       Volume 10 : Issue 244

Today's Topics:

      (Q) Using a Supra Fax modem in Germany
      32-bit addressing and memory constraints
      ADA compiler for mac?
      Adobe Type Align Versions/Compatibility (Q)
      Announcing 16" PICTs!
      Apple ISDN card discontinued
      AutoDoubler Internal Compressor & Viruses (A)
      BottomLine
      Buying in the UK direct from the US. (C)
      CD-ROM Drive
      Conflict: Speedy Finder 7 and AutoDoubler 2.0...NOT
      Database Engine
      DOS CD ROM reader
      dust cover for PLW NTR
      Expert System Shells for the Mac (Q)
      Farallon Ethernet Cards.
      fax modems effective (Q)
      File Comparison
      FileMaker Import (Q)
      Irwin XL20 system patch
      Is he really losing it?
      Liken! Macintosh Emulator on the SUN (Q)
      Locked drive name
      Mac II memory limits
      Mac IIsi sound problem
      maxapplezoom
      Microsoft & Insignia
      Modem port on the powerbook 100
      multi-tasking
      Performa 200 Question
      Personal LW LS 7.2
      Piracy
      Powerbook 145
      PowerBook questions
      Ramdisk for PB140 (Q)
      RAM limits of Mac II
      Reset Chooser w/out restarting (Sys7)
      Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail
      snap to grid in finder changes (A)
      snap to grid in finder changes (R)
      Software support for AppleFax
      Stacks on Tarot Cards?
      Sun drive venders & info-mac
      Supra Fax v.32 Modem--How good is it?
      System 7.1 features
      Terminal Emulator needed for Mac
      Turning on AppleTalk without rebooting (summary)
      vtxxx comm software
      Wang Model LPS8 Laser Printer (Q)
      Win 3.1 beats 7.0 (C)
      Word upgrade (2 msgs)

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:02:11 -0500
From: walrath@faw.uni-ulm.de (Wayne K. Walrath)
Subject: (Q) Using a Supra Fax modem in Germany

A couple months ago, I puchased two Supra Fax modems for a friend and
I and shortly thereafter left for an assignment in Germany. We have
only now gotten around to testing our new toys, since they were
originally shipped with software and cables for windows/pc (is it
conceivable that I told the ordertaker I had a pc? Nein!), and it took
a long time to get that mess straightened out. But now it seems we are
unable to get the things to work at all. My friend has done all the
active work in this area so far, so I am unable to repeat exactly what
he has tried, but basically he tells me he has attempted to configure
them with every logical combination of settings, as well as attempting
with both the packaged Microphone comm. software (came with our
puchase), and his old shareware term program, in all cases, the
software indicates that it the "Modem is not answering."

In previous years, I used my Dove Fax modem here with absolutely no
problems, and his old modem was also a States-purchased model (don't
know what brand). Also no problem there. So, it is getting quite
frustrating sitting on this $800+ investment and being unable to use
it. We called Supra Deutschland yesterday for help, but the whole
office is empty until monday; they are off at a Messe. Repeated calls
to Supra in the States were unsuccessful since the line was
continually busy and it eventually was time for me to leave the
office.

My Question (finally): Does anyone out there have direct experience
with a Supra modem in Germany/Europe, or does anyone know what might
be the problem (ie, they saw the same message when trying to use the
modem in the states)?  Can anyone tell me if there is actually a
difference between the Supra modems sold here in Germany and those in
the States?

After my Dovefax modem was fried during an electrical storm, I
attempted to get it fixed, only to find out that the firm went
belly-up. So I looked around long and hard, and it seemed that Supra
had an excellent product at fair prices. I still think that is the
case.

Wayne                                   walrath@faw.uni-ulm.de

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:42:28 GMT
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Subject: 32-bit addressing and memory constraints

> Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 00:21:11 EDT
> From: Scott Kaplan <sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu>
> Subject: 32-bit addressing and memory constraints.
>
> In Info-mac #241, someone asks (sorry, I forgot the name already):
> The scenario:
>
> - A IIci with more than 8Megs of RAM installed - say 12Megs as an example.
> - 32-bit addressing is NOT turned on
>
> The Question:  Why can't virtual memory be used?
>
> ----
> Okay, this is a variation on a commonly asked question (although more often
> it comes in the form of a person who has more than 8 megs RAM with 24-bity
> addresses going, and their System takes up like 10 megs...).  The Memory
> cdev will not let you allocate any virtual memory because you cannot address
> any more.  In 24-bit mode, the most your Mac can address is 8 megs.  Now,
they
> can't stop you from installing more than 8 megs into the machine, but you're
> not using more than that (although there is apparently some special
extension
> that can be used to bump the limit up to 14 megs...).  So, the Virtual part
> of the cdev won't let you allocate any disc memory because it can't possibly
> address more than what is physically in the machine.
>

No, no, no... 24 bit addressing can access 2^24 which is 16 Megs.
Take away 2 Megs for ROM and I/O and take away one Meg for video (most
people
use the on-booard video or a video card), thus if you have 10 or 12
Megs or RAM and you are in 24 bit addressing, you can set VM to 13 Megs.
As long as you have no other NuBus cards that take away a Meg...

I know... I tested this about a year ago.

Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 00:00:35 PDT
From: v6@dao.nrc.ca (Fabio Favata--Observing)
Subject: ADA compiler for mac?

	I am looking for an ADA compiler for Macintosh, either commercial or
PD/shareware. In case you are wondering why would I need an ADA compiler for
Mac, is for a girlfriend of mine who has to take an ADA course (no choice!).
Anyone has ever heard of such a thing?

	Thanks, Fabio Favata

		ffavata@estsa2.estec.esa.nl

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 13:57:56 BST
From: Mike Glendinning <mikeg@ingres.com>
Subject: Adobe Type Align Versions/Compatibility (Q)

The current version of Adobe Type Align is v1.0.4 it seems, but this
version is *not* 32-bit clean.  If I open Type Align, draw a line,
type some text on it and then try to "Save" it, it crashes the
system.  The workaround is to paste to the clipboard, which works,
but I'd still like to be able to save Type Align documents.

Does anybody know if there is a later version of Type Align that
*is* 32-bit clean?

-Mike.

mikeg@ingres.com

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 14:20:01 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: Announcing 16" PICTs!

I have placed some PICTs in 16" 624 x 832 size on ftp.apple.com in my
directory.  All are stored in MacBinary format.  I cannot take the time
to binhex and mail these, so please don't ask.  I also cannot resize or
otherwise muck with them.  It has taken too much of my time to just post
them.

Please do not swamp this server during the day.  If there is a problem
with a feeding frenzy then I may be required to take these off which
would benefit no one.

Jon

The List:

Files in /pub/pugh/pict/macbinary-624x832:

All files are 32 bit PICTs, sized for a 16" 624 x 832 pixel monitor, stored in
Macbinary format and compressed with QuickTime's JPEG compression.  Some are
compressed with QuickTime 1.5, but that shouldn't make a difference.

Andromeda
	Our closest galactic neighbor.  From _Galaxies_
Batman_vs_Predator
	From the comic book
Bound_to_Please
	Another Dave Stevens work
Cap_d_Antibes
	A Monet of a nice tree by a bay
Clown_fish
	A very pretty fish.  My wife does these cute things.
Death_Star_Trench
	One of Ralph McQuarrie's Star Wars preproduction paintings
Dragons_of_Ice
	A dragon attacking a couple of large ice boats. This is
	one of many I got from a _Best of the Dragon_ art book.
Eagle
	An eagle in a tree.  From one of the wife's photo collections.
Half_Dome
	Half Dome in Yosemite as seen during a storm
Jungle_Comics
	Sheena from the cover of Jungle Comics by Dave Stevens
Knight_s_Sword
	Another _Best of the Dragon_ painting
Lagoon_Nebula
	The Lagoon Nebula.  From _Galaxies_
LaunchPad
	A nice shot of the Space Shuttle on the launch pad. From a calendar.
Midnight_Snack
	A female vampire.  From the _Best of the Dragon_
Moon_Painting
	A great painting of a painting on the moon showing barren moonscape
	behind a corresponding lush fanasty view of the same terrain.  From
	an old _Omni_ magazine.
Paolo_&_Francesca
	A painting of two lost souls from Michael Kaluta's portfolio based
	on Dante's Infereno.
Pumpkin_Pie
	Another Dave Stevens of a witch in a pumpkin patch.  Used as the
	cover of the 3D comic _Seduction of the Innocent_
Queen_Angelfish
	Another pretty fish picture done by my wife.
Rosette_Nebula
	An exploded star with lots of background stars.  Also from _Galaxies_
Sheena
	Sheena, from the comic book, as drawn by Dave Stevens, creator of
	The Rocketeer. From a collection of his works known as _Just
	Teasing_.  A must have!
The_Birth_of_Venus
	The classic Venus on the Half Shell, a bit cropped but classical.
Wanted
	Another Dave Stevens of a western woman without much more than
	her guns.
Yavin
	A pre-production painting from Star Wars of rebel forces taking off
	from the moon of Endor base to go fight the Death Star.  There is a
	forest, a sentry in a tower, and the gas giant looming.  This is my
	favorite picture from Ralph McQuarrie's collection of pre-pro art.
Yosemite
	The Yosemite valley. From a painting by Albert Bierstadt in 1866.


Files in pub/pugh/pict/macbinary-624x832/ren-and-stimpy

All of these (except Ren_2) are 32 bit PICTs, sized for a 16" 832 x 624 pixel
monitor, stored in Macbinary format and compressed with QuickTime's JPEG
compression.  Ren_2 is merely a smaller size PICT.

Face it, you don't need a description of each file.  You either want them or
you don't.

Ask_Dr._Stupid
Bloated_sack_of_protoplasm
Button_me_Ren
Cartoons_will_rot_your_brain
Clown_fish
Comm._Hoek_&_Cadet_Stimpy
Completely_Unaffected
Crawled_out_of_the_mud
Don_t_make_me_use_this
Eye_Eye,_Cap_n
From_whence_the_stench_came
Giant_Soft-Shelled_Stimpy
Gritty_Kitty
Happy,_Happy,_Joy,_Joy!
I_m_in_control_of_your_T.V.
Ironing_for_Stimpy
It_s_Log,_It_s_Log
Look_at_Log_now!
Marlin_Hoek
My_Hero
My_little_brother_doll
Nurse_Stimpy
O.K._Space_Cadets
Oh!_What_a_hunk!
Powdered_Toast_Man
Ren_2
Squeak!_Squeak,_I_tell_you!
Stays_crunchy,_even_in_milk
Sucked_into_a_hideous_vortex
The_Ren_&_Stimpy_Show
Wait_till_you_hear_this
We_who_are_your_firedogs
Yaauuggghhh!!!
You_coveteth_my_ice_cream_bar
You_sick_little_monkey!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 18:53:10 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Apple ISDN card discontinued

In Regards to your letter <199210082249.AA12262@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> I heard a rumor that Apple is dumping their ISDN card.  Does anybody know
> if this is true?  Does Apple plan to unload the remainder of their
> stock in the surplus market?  I am interested in getting some ISDN cards
> if their price is right.

>From TidBITS#142...

Discontinued...
  With the new machines coming in, Apple will drop the Macintosh
  Classic 4/40 from the price list, along with the SE/30 logic board
  upgrade (too bad, that was a good one for SE owners), the Apple
  ISDN NB Card (guess it wasn't selling to well without many ISDN
  connections available), and as Mark Anbinder reported above, the
  40 MB Tape Backup Cartridges. I don't have a complete Apple price
  list in front of me, but unless I'm mistaken, the Classic 4/40 was
  the last 68000-based Mac left after Apple dropped the PowerBook
  100. The 68020-based LC went away when the 68030-based LC II took
  its place, and one way or another, Apple clearly wants to
  standardize all Macs on the 68030 as a minimum. Good for them,
  although they could have done a bit sooner.


cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 15:36:54 MDT
From: GERTNER BRADLEY J <gertner@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Subject: AutoDoubler Internal Compressor & Viruses (A)

I asked about accidentally hiding viruses when using
AutoDoubler's Internal Compressor...
I got impatient and decided to try it out for myself -
(I kept a contaminated version of Obnoxious Tetris around for just
such emergencies. :)
I compressed the App and then ran it; Disinfectant 2.9 INIT found
the virus and told me about it! I ran Disinfectant 2.9 and removed
the virus! Worked like a charm!  I'm more confident now that the
virus checkers (and AutoDoubler!) are watching their p's & q's!
--
Brad Gertner (gertner@ucsu.Colorado.EDU)

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 18:48:07 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: BottomLine

In Regards to your letter <199210082249.AA12262@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> Recently I posted a query about prices on the Supra 32bis Fax Modem
> and got replies ranging as low as $250, but I was not able to duplicate
> those prices, and didn't have the money.  Now I do, so I'm looking for
> the best current price.  The lowest I've found in the current MacUser
> is from a place called BottomLine in Austin: $325.  I know nothing
> about this place, and its 900 number takes me a little aback.  Anybody
> have an opinion, or an alternative deal being offered right now?

I'd avoid any place that charges you just for talking. A friend called
there and said that by the time she'd figured everything out the bill
came to over $14, which erased any savings.

Stick with a reputable firm like MacConnection and you won't go wrong.
You may pay a little more, but it's worth it for the lack of hassle.
(Actually, I think only MacZone and Mac's Place have the Supra modems.)

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 14:10:06 BST
From: Mike Glendinning <mikeg@ingres.com>
Subject: Buying in the UK direct from the US. (C)

There has been some comment in recent weeks about the price
differentials between Mac products in the UK (Europe) and
the US.  Basically, US prices are *much* cheaper, even
after allowing for extra shipping charges and import duty.

Here's my two cents worth...

I buy lots of bits and pieces direct from the US.  It's
very easy.  The shipping company (DHL, FedEx, etc) takes
care of the 5% import duty and 17.5% Value Added Tax on
entry to the UK and bills you for it later.  With the
current UK/US exchange rate at about 1.7, it's always
cheaper to buy direct from the US.

For software, I check first that support/updates are made
available to overseas buyers.  Generally, most companies will
do this, except those that have setup special UK or European
distributor companies (like some of the larger suppliers).

I have no qualms about buying solid-state hardware from the US,
but so far have stayed away from ordering disk drives, printers,
etc, in case they go wrong.  Getting replacements under warranty
is possible, but can take rather a long time!  You also get stung
for the shipping, import duty and VAT again!!

Unfortunately, Adobe has a very annoying practice of not allowing
dealers to ship their products overseas.  Prices for fonts from
Adobe UK are extortionate, and I would like to be able to buy
these direct from the US as well.  All the US dealers I have tried
refuse to sell me Adobe fonts, presumably because Adobe has threatened
them with some sort of action if they do!  Not very nice of you, Adobe.

-Mike.

mikeg@ingres.com

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 12:20:04 EDT
From: Matthew B Cravit <cravitma@student.msu.edu>
Subject: CD-ROM Drive

I'm posting this for a friend.  She has a Chinon CD-ROM (unsure of model), and
a Mac IIci.  She says that when she trys to access the drive, the busy light
comes on, but no data appears in the remote control DA.  Her thoughts on the
problem are that it is a SCSI termination problem.  Any other suggestions that
can be provided are appreciated.  To save network bandwidth, please send
replies to me (cravitma@student.msu.edu), and I can forward them to her.

Thanks.

Matthew Cravit
(cravitma@student.msu.edu)

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:59 CDT
From: "Dwight Lemke @ Wisconsin Oshkosh" <LEMKE@VAXA.CIS.UWOSH.EDU>
Subject: Conflict: Speedy Finder 7 and AutoDoubler 2.0...NOT

Robert-

That's strange, I disable EVERYTHING and check my dozens of inits one at
a time.  As a final check, I restarted with ONLY AutoDoubler and SpeedyFinder
enabled WITH all the Speed Options toggled off--it still crashed AND caused
a finder restart.  I using the same versions as you and System 7.0.1

-Dwight

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:58 EST
From: "Todd Haddaway (410) 455-2574"
<MIS9150%UMBCADMN.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Database Engine

Hello,

I am new to Mac programming.  I am learning C with Think C v5.0 and would
like to start doing some 'real' application work.  The type of application
that I want to work on lends itself to a database.  Does anyone know of
any database engines for the Macintosh?? I know of one, InsideOut II.  The
problem with this is that if I ever market my application, I would have
to pay a royalty to the InsideOut people.  There has to be other packages.
BTW - is there a 'standard' database format for the Mac.  On the PC,
dBase is sort of the industry standard.

Thank you for any help

Todd

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:54:37 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
Subject: DOS CD ROM reader

I know I'm probably dreaming but, I wonder if any of you programmer types
out there could generate a configurable file reader. Say you use it to open
a file of unknown format and try various data conversion methods until some
part of it looks readable. Seems to me that most files are either tree
structures or sets of tree structures with some "new tree" identifier or a
set of pointers. A file with one tree structure is probably either a text
file or a picture where a database is a whole bunch of tree sets.

Maybe I look at the ASCII portions and tell the reader which sections look
like readable text. The reader could look at the preceeding bytes to see if
the text strings are preceeded by some kind of structure.

Or maybe I have a database with elements in it and I look at the file on
it's native machine and then tell the reader what kind of data structure is
in the file, typical elements for each data type, and maybe give it one
data set for it to look for in the file.

Just dreaming ... but I'd sure like to use non-Mac CD ROMs without waiting
for a Mac reader which seems to never show up. Is there some user friendly
tool I could use to try decoding a file?

Kee
Nethery@parc.xerox.com

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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 11:37:03 SET
From: Marco Simionato <SIMION%IVEUNCC.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: dust cover for PLW NTR

I would like to know if there exists a dust cover for the
Personal LaserWriter NTR and who manufactures it.

Please reply directly. Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:16 EST
From: BRICHMOND%UTOROISE.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Expert System Shells for the Mac (Q)

Hello Info-Mac Netters,

	I need information regarding the availability of Expert System Shells
available for the Mac whether commercial, shareware, public domain, or
otherwise.  Any information is very much appreciated.  Please Email me
directly
at: BRICHMOND@UTOROISE.BITNET     Thanks very much in advance.  Brian
Richmond.

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 13:55:00 BST
From: Mike Glendinning <mikeg@ingres.com>
Subject: Farallon Ethernet Cards.

I'm planning on buying an Ethernet/FPU card for my Mac LC II and
am considering the Farallon LC version.  Does anybody have any
good or bad experiences to relate with regard to the Farallon
Ethernet cards?

I'm guessing (at the moment) that the LC versions of these cards
also work in the LC II.  Nobody seems to be advertising LC II
specials.

-Mike.

mikeg@ingres.com

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 15:20:27 EDT
From: Bob Crawford <bcrawf2@rvgs.vak12ed.edu>
Subject: fax modems effective (Q)

Some Qs for fax modem users.  In the 11-92 issue of MacUser
(p.242), a former editor disparages fax modems, saying: 1)
received faxes are huge and slowly-received bitmaps, and 2) the
quality of these received faxes is *awfuk* or worse unless you
*manage to connect to a compatible fax modem*.  He recommends
getting a stand-alone fax machine.  He gives no performance
numbers.

I wish to hear some responses from fax modem users,
particularly SupraFax users.  i was about to spring for a
send/receive fax modem (maybe v.32bis) to send material such as
a 4-page newsletter proof, then get it back with changes
marked.  Mostly, my Mac would be dealing with stand-alone fax
machines.  Average use would be light, maybe send/receive 8
pages per week.  (But think of the 40-minute round trips to be
saved.)

So, will a fax modem do this job, and what would be the limits
on effectiveness?  (I will post a brief summary if I get useful
info.)

Thanks.

Bob Crawford, Roanoke, VA

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Date: 09 Oct 1992 06:29:24 -0400 (EDT)
From: DPG1509@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: File Comparison

I am looking for an application/control panel/whatever that will allow me to
compare two files on a binary level to see if they are the same or not. It
would be great if it would also tell me where they differ, etc.. Does anyone
know if something like this exists, and if it does, where can I find it?
Thanks -

Dan Goodenow
DPG1509@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU
Rochester Institute of Technology

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 11:14:21 -0400
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Subject: FileMaker Import (Q)

Tom Scott writes:

>I've just appended to a predefined data file with file type SDF
>(standard delimiter format) where each record has a fixed record length
>(i.e. first name occupies columns 1-20, last name occupies columns
>21-50, etc.), so I just set the field lengths in the local database to
>match the lengths specified in the mainframe definition.  My question
>is: How do I do this in FileMaker?

    Well you can do this, but it will be a bit of a hack. What you need
to do is import the file as tab-deliminated text. FM Pro will only see
one field per record, so you import that into a Text field. Then you
have calculation fields set up to parse out the appropriate segments of
this text field into the fields that are acutally in the database. When
you are done you simply change all of the calculation fields to their
appropriate equivalents (Text or Number) and then you can use them like
they were normal fields. It is a hack, but this is the only way that I
have found to get FM Pro to work with this kind of import file. The only
onther way I can see to get around this would be to write a simple
program in your favorite language (Hypercard would work for this) to
parse the import file and export it as a tab-deliminated file for FM Pro
to read.

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:10:32 -0700
From: Joel Siegel <jdsiegel@ocf.Berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Irwin XL20 system patch

I've been looking for a long time for a patch to the control software for my
Irwin/MacPEAK XL20 SE accelerator (68020 CPU, 20 MHz) which will allow it to
run better under System 7. A staffer at Irwin directed me to Info-Mac some
months back and I eventually found a file for the Irwin board, however it was
titled "FPU Patch" and was actually a patch for the XL20 using a 68881 FPU (or
was it 68882?) under System 6.0.7.  It has been rumored to me however, that
a patch for System 7 *does* exist, written by the same person (Pat Santangelo)
who authored the FPU patch. Any idea how I might go about finding it? The
folks
who had it at one time don't seem to have it any more, and I haven't been able
to reach Pat by email (his full address, incidentally, is
      "CHEM::SANTANGELO" <santangelo%chem.decnet@ccf3.nrl.navy.mil>
(I'm not sure how much of all that is needed to find him). Any suggestions?


You folks run a great archive. Thanks for your time.

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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 03:38:36 -0400
From: Bob Kerns <rwk@crl.dec.com>
Subject: Is he really losing it?

    Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 23:55:45 EDT
    From: "Dieder B." <UGU00266@vm.uoguelph.ca>
    In the last digest there was an exchange between Jon Pugh and Wade
    Williams
    about 'piracy'. I have no problems with what was said, but HOW. How
    did we get a response to a message when it hadn't even been distributed
    in the list yet?
Easy!  Wade CC:'d Jon in his message, and Jon replied
before the digest went out, so his reply made it into
the same digest.

If you're quick, and something to say, you have the
chance to do the same thing!  ;=)

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 05:56:00 EDT
From: alan@kaman.com (Alan Piszcz)
Subject: Liken! Macintosh Emulator on the SUN (Q)

Does anyone have any experience with LIKEN!
the Macintosh emulation software that runs
on SUN workstations?

If so has anyone run the speedometer program
using it to see what the performance is?

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:58:48 -0800
From: kevin@scic.intel.com (Kevin Altis)
Subject: Locked drive name

I saw your message in Info-Mac. The solution for "locked" folder and drive
names is to use UnlockFolder, below is the readme file that comes with the
application. I think I got the application off of ftp.apple.com, but it may
be available in other places as well. You have to turn off FileSharing on
the machine that has locked names, then run UnlockFolder, then reboot. I
have had conflicts with FileGuard, so you may have to experiment further.
Feel free to post this info. to the net.

ka

April 21, 1992

UnlockFolder is a utility application that "unlocks" the volume
which was accidentally "locked" by a bug that occurs in an
environment where Fileshared 7.0 CPU co-exists with 6.x
clients.  A typical symptom of locked volume is inability to
rename it, or inability to paste an icon to that volume.

As shown below, using UnlockFolder is extremely simple:

1) Launch UnlockFolder application.
2) Select "Unlock " menu item from File menu.
3) In a standard file dialog, select a volume that you want to
unlock and click "Unlock" button.
4) You are done.  You need to restart your Macintosh before
you can rename that volume.

You can read this instruction from within UnlockFolder by
selecting "UnlockFolder Help" menu item from 7.0 help menu.

 ---------------------------------------------------------

Feel free to distribute UnlockFolder to anyone who needs it, but
please be sure to distribute this ReadMe file along with it.
The user of UnlockFolder is entirely responsible for any
consequences of using this application.

Please send any bug report to internet kazu@apple.com or
AppleLink KAZU.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 11:22:33 EDT
From: Randy Patton <PATTONR@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Mac II memory limits

(My apologies to the moderators for my earlier misplaced posting.)

I need to know how much memory a Mac II can actually access.  For a long
time the conventional wisdom has been that a II can use only 8MB without
a ROM upgrade to a IIx, but recently I've been hearing differently.  An
acquaintance of mine insists that a II can use 4MB SIMMs if Connectix's
Maxima utility is installed, and he also believes that a stock out-of-the-
box II can use 2MB SIMMs in bank B without either Maxima or the ROM
upgrade.

What gives?  Is there a way to access more than 8MB on a II without Apple's
ROM upgrade?  Are the II's memory limitations confined to 4 MB SIMMs or to
all SIMMs greater than 1MB in capacity?  Thanks all.

Love and Rockets,
H. Randy Patton

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:50:02 PDT
From: MNK@MASS.dnet.hac.com
Subject: Mac IIsi sound problem

	I remember a long time ago someone mentioning the problem
	I am having where my Mac IIsi sound output stops working.
	At the time I ignored the message since I didn't have a
	Mac IIsi.

	My only solution is to use the sound control panel and to
	change the setting of the sound to something higher and then
	back to the desired setting.  Is there a permanent fix
	available?  I no longer can read Info-Mac regularly so
	please reply via E-mail to mnk@mass.dnet.hac.com  Thanks.

	Michael Kimura (mnk@mass.dnet.hac.com)
	Hughes Aircraft Company
	Radar Systems Group

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 06:55:36 EDT
From: gt3017c@prism.gatech.edu
Subject: maxapplezoom

Could anyone please tell me what version, if any of maxapplezoom works with
System 7.0.1.  I currently have version 1.43 (the latest), and it claims that
it is incompatible.  I have a Mac IIx 8/80 running System 7.0.1 w/ T/U 1.1.1.
Any help would be appreciated.  Please respond to me directly, and if enough
interest is found, a summary will follow.  Thanks a million ahead of time.

Bill Waits
Georgia Institute of Technology

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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 15:39:44 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Microsoft & Insignia

In Regards to your letter <199210070019.AA28226@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> >I find it very hard, but not impossible to believe that Microsoft would get
> >into the Mac OS Market.
> >Interested in hearing more from anyone!!
>
> Didn't I hear someone mention that Macrosoft had bought Insignia, purveyors
> of SoftPC? Doesn't this fit with the theory?

Much as I loathe this phrase, it seems appropriate. Nah, I can't bring
myself to do it. Negative, Microsoft has NOT bought Insignia. It was
an ugly and thoroughly incorrect rumor. (and yes, I have this on authority
>From someone at Insignia - the original rumor apparently started as
speculation in one of the trade magazines)

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: 09 Oct 1992 10:59:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: TVAIDYA@smith.smith.edu
Subject: Modem port on the powerbook 100

According to the instructions that come with PowerBook 100 if you want
to use an external modem with the powerbook you just need to plug the
modem cable into the printerport and then use the modem.

I tried to connect the powerbook to a dataphone ( basically a 9600 baud
serial connection) using the printer port and then used Mac Kermit
version (.9)40 to dial a number, but with no results.  It appeared that
the modem was not getting any thing from the powerbook.  Now I have
been successful in doing the same with a Mac SE etc using the modem
port, same dataphone, same version of kermit so I know everything
is set correctly.  It just appears that the powerbook is not sending
the stuff generated in kermit out the printer port.  Has anyone experienced
something similiar?  Is there some setting in kermit or on the powerbook
100 that needs to be set differently?

	Please send reply directly to :
	tvaidya@smith.edu or tvaidya@smith.bitnet
	and I can summarize for the list.

Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 18:40:17 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: multi-tasking

In Regards to your letter <199210082249.AA12262@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> a)  He certainly can multitask with System 7.  I once opened 14
> applications at once, all of which were multitasking.  System 7 and Windows
> use the same cooperative multitasking technique.

Looking at my apps menu, I'm currently running 17 applications - that's
one or two more than normal. :-) I _like_ 20 MB!

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

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Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 19:15:20 CST
From: Don Walter <FWLP%JSUMUS.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Performa 200 Question

     One of the instructors here recently bought a Performa 200
and a Stylewriter from Sears (Sears had Stylewriters in stock).
Being an experienced Mac user he was a bit disgruntled at all
the new files he creates being put in the document folder instead
of the current folder.

     Is there any way to get 7.0.1P to stop defaulting to the
document folder?  Failing that is there any problem installing
regular 7.0.1 on a Performa 200?  Will the application launcher
work under 7.0.1?

     Thanks in advance for the help.

     Don Walter
     walter@sebac.jsu.edu

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:48:39 GMT
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Subject: Personal LW LS 7.2

>From: usr4818a@tso.uc.EDU (Robert E. Winston)
>Subject: PLW LS 7.2 (C)
>
> good info about LS drivers...
>
>So if you need the new driver (which is now 7 months old) you can:
>
> 1) Buy a new LS
> 2) Buy System 7.1 on or after Oct.19
> 3) Wait for it to appear (maybe) on ftp.apple.com
> 4) Try to find a BBS that has the "BBS in a Box" CD on line.

It's also on AppleLink.

Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.

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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 11:43:52 CST
From: Bob Monaghan <VB7R0027%SMUVM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Piracy

The suggestions on hardware based anti-software piracy are unwarranted.  If
all
of the mfgers did sit down and come up with a hardware based solution, and did
force us to buy it, I would be one of the first in line to sue them all for
collusion, antitrust violations, and related violations of the Texas Business
&
Commerce codes etc.  In case you missed the New York Times front page article,
the big news on piracy is now the software firms such as Sy***t*c are being
attacked for allegedly pirating software, confidential documents and employees
>From each other.  Hardware protection schemes such as were recommended in the
Info-Mac of 8 Oct. 1992 Piracy article were tried on the PC.  Many just didn't
work on most systems, some crashed systems intermittently, and others actively
destroyed data on hard-drives to the point where hardware protection schemes,
and copy protection in particular, got such a bad name that not even the
dweebs
would buy such software or hardware.  Some users, reading about software
profit
levels running 25% of sales (i.e., 25 cents of every dollar were profits)
might also question who are the real pirates in this scenario, especially when
industry hardware profits are running 3-5%.  The real solution to piracy is to
put out a quality product with appropriate support at a fair price.  The
actual
box costs $10-20, the software engineering part is another $20-50, and the
rest
of the average $500 package is advertising, middlemen markups, and so on. The
best solutions, IMHO, are to buy shareware or used software where more is
less.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:03:27 GMT
From: nbl@solomon.technet.sg (Ng Beng Lim)
Subject: Powerbook 145

The PowerBook 145 is supposed to be between the 140 and the 170.
In the 170, there is an option to save battery life by
reducing the clock rate to 16 MHz.  It is done using the Battery DA.
Is there anyway to do the same for the 145.  It seems that
System 7 reports my 145 as the 140 and thus will not allow me to
change the speed.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 18:44:42 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: PowerBook questions

In Regards to your letter <199210082249.AA12262@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> If that is the case, then what is a good screen saver for the PB?  I haven't
> been using one, because after a few minutes of inactivity it just goes to
> sleep, but if it has to stay on to charge, then I will need something to
save
> its screen.

You don't need a normal screen saver with an LCD. At worst, they can
require a little cooling down from a burned-in image - it's not permanent.
CPU includes an LCD screen saver that merely flips black and white
every so often to prevent the pixels from getting temporarily stuck.

> Also, does anyonknow about CPU (Connectix Powerbook Utilities).  (I think)
> What does it do?  Is it any good?

Check out TidBITS#137 for a review of CPU:

info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-137.etx

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 09:31:14 -0600
From: misanchuk@herald.usask.ca
Subject: Ramdisk for PB140 (Q)

Can someone recommend good ramdisk software for a PowerBook 140 with 4 Mb?
Please include source and cost if possible.

ADVthanxANCE

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 10:24:16 EDT
From: Randy Patton <PATTONR@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: RAM limits of Mac II

(This is my first attempt at a post, so please be patient . . .)

Exactly how much RAM can a Mac II access?  I've been told repeatedly that
a II is limited by its ROMs to 8MB, and can only access more if it's upgraded
to a IIx.  Recently someone else told me that a II can use up to 128 MB
if Connectix's Maxima utility is installed, but other sources claim that the
ROM upgrade is still necessary before the II can utilize SIMMs with greater
than 1MB capacity.

I've also heard that the ROM limitation only applies to 4MB SIMMs and greater,
and that a II can really access 12MB (4 1MB SIMMs in bank A, 4 2 MB SIMMs in
bank B).

What's the scoop?  Do I need a pricey upgrade to use more than 8MB RAM, or
is Maxima enough?  Thanks all.

Love and Rockets,
H. Randy Patton

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 16:02:48 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Reset Chooser w/out restarting (Sys7)

Is there a way to tell chooser that Appletalk is on and then use Appletalk
without restarting? Currently, if Appletalk is "off" in the Chooser
and you click the "on" button, you must restart to use Chooser. Thanks,Pete
Peter V. Tamas, Gnome@Templevm.bitnet

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 10:29:19 CDT
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <mailer-daemon@mail.auburn.edu>
Subject: Returned mail: Unable to deliver mail

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From: davegrow@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
Message-Id: <9210091534.AA14150@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil>
To: williw1@mail.auburn.edu, williams)
Posted: Oct  9 11:26 EDT (Oct  9 15:26 ZULU)
Subject: [ANS] Macs and PC's

I also agree that the Mac will likely never dominate the market.  The PC has
taken it over for a bizarre reason:  currently, the people who buy computers
buy for capability rather than value.  If we bought cars the way we buy
computers, then we would all say "I need something to get me from point A
>From point B that doesn't get me wet in the rain but keeps me warm in the
winter".  (This dosn't much differ from "I want my computer to do this, this,
and this")  Ultimately, we'd all drive Yugo's.  Mac owners have paid the
extra for their Lincolns, with few complaining.  By definition, a computer is
a device which performs repeated mathematical calculations for the user.
Under
that definition, the computer that does the most work for the user should be
the better computer.  The Mac certainly bested the PC in that arena.  However,
the PC's complexity (a la DOS) has frightened most people from ever trying
another operating system, and the abundance of inconsistent software for the
PC
has led them to consider it a standard (quite a schock that a platform with so
few
standards of its own could becomed known as the standard platform).
	In short, your professor will be right on the day when the Lincolns
and Cadillacs stop selling, and the highways are dominanted by Justy's,
Yugo's,
and Escorts.  He will be right when we all move into bungalows or apartments
and leave our mansions behind.  Until then, I'm confident that the folks who
have driven the better car will continue to enjoy its luxury.  Now I'll turn
back to the PC and Mac sitting on my desk, curse again the need to remember
my PC directory names, and happily use the Mac for 99.9% of my work.  It'sthe
better platform - glad I bought it!!!
			- Dave Grow

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 12:11:56 -0400
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Subject: snap to grid in finder changes (A)

In comp.sys.mac.digest you write:

>A couple times now I've found that the invisible "grid" in the finder
>for aligning icons changes. I keep the "Snap To Grid" option on in the
>Views control panel
[...]
>This has happened before, on two occasions when I tried using the
>Black Box control panel, which sticks a row of application icons on
>one side of the screen and reduces your screen space accordingly in
>all applications. This time, I wasn't trying Black Box; it just happened.
>My only thought is it could have been Desktop Textures...

Two things to consider.
1. Your Finder prefs file might be corrupted. I've seen things like this
where trashing the prefs file has helped.
2. Do you change your Finder font via the Views control panel? Changing
the font and font size will shift the grid.

-Geoff

------------------------------

Date: 09 Oct 1992 09:42:14 +0100
From: cas@FenK.WAU.NL (Cas Meyer)
Subject: snap to grid in finder changes (R)

I too have seen this happen on my Mac SE/30 5Meg of RAM 100 Mb Harddrive
 and System 7.0 TuneUp 1.1.1 with several inits
Serveral other Macs on the lab had the same.
(all about the same configuration)

I didn't investigate either.
Cas Meijer
Wageningen Agricultural University

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Date: 09 Oct 1992 14:01:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Fred Condo <CONDOF@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject: Software support for AppleFax

I would like information about software to support the orphaned AppleFax
modem. Apple has totally abandoned the people who purchased their modem,
and Solutions, the producers of BackFax, has gone out of business. I also
recall reading that Delrina, who are developing v. 2.0 of BackFax, has been
having financial difficulties, so I am not sanguine about them.

Does any of the software that supports commonly available faxmodems also
support the AppleFax modem? Please reply to me, and I will summarize for
the net.
Fred Condo, Ph.D. | condof@cgsvax.claremont.edu | condof@clargrad.bitnet

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:30:04 GMT
From: cmd36365@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dun)
Subject: Stacks on Tarot Cards?

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>Dear Info-Mac Netters,

>Does anyone have or know of any public domain HyperCard stacks on the
>subject of Tarot Cards? Any information would be helpful.


One can be found on wuarchive.wustl.edu under
/mirrors4/macintosh/hc/tarotmajor.sit

						Dun

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:04:41 PDT
From: Kee Nethery <nethery@parc.xerox.com>
Subject: Sun drive venders & info-mac

Are there any info-mac readers who work for companies that supply hard
drives to suns? Maybe you could get Bill Lipa a good deal on the hard
drives he is planning to purchase for the archives?

Kee
Nethery@parc.xerox.com

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 22:38:18 -0700
From: i6bk@odin.cc.pdx.edu (Brian Korver)
Subject: Supra Fax v.32 Modem--How good is it?

Could anyone tell me about Supra Fax modems?  I'm thinking of buying the
Supra Fax v.32, that's the 9600 baud model.  I would appreciate any info
anyone has.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 19:40:02 CDT
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: System 7.1 features

Jon Pugh says that Apple only expects about 20% of (US?) users to
upgrade to 7.1 since the advantages are really for the international
market. But like Murph, I had read otherwise. In addition to the bug
fix(es?) and better memory management, I read that 7.1 speeds up
Finder operations. For that reason I haven't bothered downloading
speedyfinder - time is too precious if I'll get the same effect from
a system upgrade I'll make in a couple of weeks.

Perhaps the Apple projection is based on only 25% of US users hearing
about 7.1's advantages?

Graeme Forbes

------------------------------

Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 11:14 GMT
From: Jim Schenk <JIMS%SERVAX.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Terminal Emulator needed for Mac

Hello,

Help!  I am looking for a terminal emulation program for the Mac
(either shareware or commercial) that runs over LAT and has
scripting capabilities similar to Kermit or VT320 (Windows).

So far, we've looked at MacTerminal and PacerTerm; neither one has
the necessary capabilities.

Please reply directly via e-mail; I'll summarize any results to the net.

Thanks!

Jim Schenk
University Computer Services
Florida International University

Bitnet:         jims@servax
Internet:       jims@servax.fiu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 14:55:00 -0500
From: chai@cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: Turning on AppleTalk without rebooting (summary)

Well, basically the situation seems to be so:

Except for the method Murph Sewall suggested (toggle-appletalk.hqx)
most of the suggestions I got referred to either removing the INIT and
the patches or re-installing system 7.

Regarding toggle-appletalk: the catch of having to have Appletalk
turned on every time I quit is analogous to my problem with the Chooser
method -- it's just a bit more convenient, that's all. Since I am apt
to quit and forget to turn it on, let alone System Crashes (which I
seem to have been having more of lately for some reason... hmm) I'm
back to square 1.

I was also told that since the patch also fixes bugs, I think I might
just wait till I get system 7.1 (when's it supposed to be available?)
rather than have more crashes.

One last suggestion was to get around my not enough serial port problem
by buying an extra serial port card -- and I'm not willing to spend
$100 or whatever just to save rebooting...

So I guess I'll just live with it for now.

Thanks, everyone who tried to help.

Ian

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:22 EDT
From: CHRIS TANSKI <CAPTANSKI33%SNYCORVA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: vtxxx comm software

Please reply directly to captanski33@snycorva.

Does anyone know of a communications program available from sumex that
offers vt2xx and/or vt3xx emulation? Thanks.

Chris Tanski

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:03 EST
From: BRICHMOND%UTOROISE.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: Wang Model LPS8 Laser Printer (Q)

Dear Info-Mac Netters,

	I just inherited a Wang Model LPS8 laser printer without any
documentation.  It has approximately 48,000 pages printed indicated on its
counter and prints an excellent quality test page.  I need to know what it
is capable of interfacing to (hopefully a Mac) and any other technical details
available about its abilities.  If anyone has any information regarding this
printer I would be very grateful if you would email me directly.  Thanks in
advance,  Brian Richmond.

	  Email: BRICHMOND@UTOROISE.BITNET

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 21:21:37 EDT
From: "Allan M. Bloom" <IRBLOOM@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Win 3.1 beats 7.0 (C)

On Tue, 06 Oct 92, Eric H. Durbrow wrote

>A prof on my doctoral committee insists that the Mac and its system are
>doomed. He contends that he can (a) multitask all his programs on his 386
>running Windows 3.1 but not on an FX running System 7; etc.

Eric, I agree with most of the respondents. You have a death wish.

Did you note the joke in this month's Playboy? How many grad students
does it take to replace a light bulb? Only one. But it'll take him nine
years to do it.

Speaking for at least a subset of those of us who have gone through the
the PhD process, please let me beg you to agree with your committee
members on matters of taste. Or at least don't fight. You *may* be able
to argue matters of substance (Took me two tries) successfully, but on
matters of taste, you are doomed.

Let the goofy Windows type keep his or her delusions. Your goal is to
get your butt out of graduate studentness.

Unless of course there aren't any jobs in your chosen career. In that
case, feel free to annoy the bejeezuz out of your committee. It is
better to be a graduate student than to be unemployed.

Al Bloom, Virginia Tech

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:36:10 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Word upgrade

In Regards to your letter <199210080232.AA22611@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> Word 5.1 is expected to ship some time in November.  The estimated
> upgrade price will be between $25 and $125.  It is supposed to be
> a fair bit like WinWord 2, but I don't recall the specifics.  Check
> last week's issue of MacWeek; they had a good article on Word 5.1
> on the front page.

It was factually correct but implied that the ugprade was much more
impressive than it actually is. Really quite boring on the whole,
which is why Microsoft isn't gouging everyone for $129 as usual.

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:34:59 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: Word upgrade

In Regards to your letter <199210080232.AA22611@nwnexus.wa.com>:
> In talking to a Microsoft support person, I happened to ask if Word would
get
> any upgrading anytime soon. He said things have been pretty hush hush, but
> that conventional wisdom over in the Mac branch of Microsoft has it that
they
> have something on the order of 50 programmers working through the nights to
> produce a "significant" upgrade. He wouldn't even guess for me what version
> nomenclature would be used. My guess is Word 6, but I'm usually wrong about
> these things.

Well 5.1 is due out in a short while, but it is NOT a significant
upgrade (and will only cost $25 or so) and 5.1 does NOT bring Mac
Word anywhere near parity with WinWord 2.0. Word 6 will be out in
a long while and should have macros. Frankly, it's not an interesting
upgrade in the slightest, except for the fact that you'll be able
to print Odd/Even pages for the first time ever. Whee, 1987 technology!

cheers ... -Adam

------------------------------

Date: 09 Oct 1992 08:20:45 -0500
From: mcguire@utkvx.utk.edu (Michael A. McGuire)

>Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 09:34:18 EDT
>From: dom manno <V1723G%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
>Subject: DOS-INIT 1.2
>
>Does anyone on the net besides me have this uneasy feeling about this
>program?
>If you read the READ ME file, it says questions should be directed to "Mister
>Cee wherever he may be" but gives no way to do so!  It also refers to some
>outfit called "STRIKERware," which sounds suspicious to me.
>Then, some netters have reported problems after installing it.  I think one
>person reported a crash.
>Finally, it's freeware.  Something in me just doesn't believe something this
>good is being given away for free.
>In short, I think it may be a Trojan horse.  I may be wrong (it just may be
>the
>natural cynicism of the journalist) but I'm not going to install it until I
>find out more about it.
>
>Dom Manno
>Journalism Graphics Lab, Temple University
><v1723g@vm.temple.edu>

Installed it over a week ago on my IIfx loaded with stuff  (7.0.1.
etc.,etc.)  No problems other than it does not let you format a dos disk
and creates some problems if you try to run AFE or MLP (which I expceted,
because so does everything else.)

My job is to live life on the edge and I have the cuts to prove it.

Michael McGuire, UTCC :-)  mcguire@utkvx.utk.edu

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 17:16:13 EST
From: news@mel.dit.csiro.au

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.digest