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From: teri@sdd.hp.com (Teri Tracey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: B&B Laserdisc
Date: 7 Oct 1992 17:50:14 -0700
Organization: HP/San Diego Technical Graphics
NNTP-Posting-Host: hp-sdd.sdd.hp.com

In article <1992Oct6.031450.4488@sdcrsi.cray.com> kathyli@sdcrsi.cray.com (the Rev. Mom) writes:
>> ltw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (LEE T WARNER) writes:
>
>>For those of you who do not know, the work-in-
>>progress version of Beauty and the Beast consists of finished and unfinished
>>clips of the movie.
>
>Just to clarify this even further, it *is* the entire movie.  You
>just dip back and forth between storyboards, pencil art, cleaned
>art (w/ and w/out effects), and the finished colored art.  It's
>pretty neat.

I saw this at the science fiction and comic book convention in LA last
weekend.  I would say 80% of it is completely finished, but I expected more
of it to be in an unfinished state.  Still, it *was* pretty cool to a animation
connissieur-wanna-be like me.  The sound-track was complete which helped to
carry the story along.  I would definitely get the work-in-progress 
rather than the finished version.

Teri Tracey              "When people are free to do as they like, they
 San Diego, CA            generally imitate each other."                   
  teri@sdd.hp.com  
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From: geoff@pmafire.inel.gov (Geoff Allen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Corporate News - Pt. 2
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:20:15 GMT
Organization: Roller Coaster fanatic with no hope for a cure

Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster) writes:
>*  The Disney Channel has acquired exclusive rights to all 96 episodes
>of the Emmy Award winning "Fraggle Rock" for the next 5 years.  TDC
>has also been granted a license to air "The Muppet Movie" , "The Great
>Muppet Caper", and "The Dark Crystal". 

But not The Muppets Take Manhattan?  Interesting...

Anyway, I'll be looking forward to seeing these on the ol' Disney
Channel.

Geoff

-- 
Geoff Allen          \  Disneyland is going to be a place where you can't
uunet!pmafire!geoff   \  get lost or tired unless you want to.
geoff@pmafire.inel.gov \                    -- Walt Disney, 1953
From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: Howard Ashman
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:05:49 GMT

In article <Bw4L0t.DIB@nic.umass.edu> ltw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (LEE T WARNER) writes:
>I was just sitting here, reading the Disney news group and listening to
>the Beauty and the Beast soundtrack, when I realized that I should write 
>something about Howard Ashman.  However, first I have a question:
>
>Does anybody know If and What Alan Menkmen and/or Howard Ashman did before
>Little Shop of Horrors?

Well, I know he graduated from Indiana University :-).  The Lilly
Library here in Bloomington had a tribute to him in Spring '90...Among
the items in the exhibit were a few letters he had written to his
former professors.  One of the letters showed Howard's excitement
about the new project he was working on "Little Shop of Horrors".  He
sounded like it was his first big break and he hoped it would be
recieved well...If he only knew....

Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: <none>
Summary: Sorry, folks!  I couldn't get this to go through my machine.
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:23:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: nic.1992Oct9.132327.2847
Followup-To: private e-mail from Glenn Wallace in Aus
Distribution: world
Organization: California State University, Bakersfield

From jtinkle Tue Sep 29 16:14:13 1992
To: g.wallace@trl.au.oz
Subject: Disney Merchandising

Dear Glenn,
	I'm glad you enjoy your Mary Poppins doll.  You've been to Epcot?
Great!  I've never been there.
	It really cracks me up when people jump on Disney for providing
neat things that are going to sell.  It makes me think they're jealous
of Disney's success.  And when you look at all the promoters of all that
is good and wholesome, there aren't many others outside of Disney.  Hmmm.
	I got your message via e-mail.  It worked.  I haven't read the
news on Usenet in a while to see if your message happened to make it - in
all or in part.
	G'day,
		Jenno (jtinkle@sparc1.csubak.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disney College Prog. Question
From: Worth and Todd - never know which <CWD1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:38:19 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

Is it too late to apply for the Disney College Program for this
spirng ('93) ?  If its not- how do you do it ?

Todd
Haste makes waste, but boy am I in a hurry!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: Disneyland College Program
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:31:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.221859.28492@u.washington.edu> mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner) writes:
>
>
>
>Since my first posting about the Program, I have been INUNDATED with
>responses from students around the country.  I am sorry if my responses
>have been brief, but I have 45 messages to reply to today! I hope I can
>help, but please keep in mind that I know virtually nothing about
>DisneyWorld's College Program or Walt Disney World.  So keep e-mailing me
>for information!!  Hopefully I'll see some of you in summer 1993!!
>
>-Denise
>*******
>"If you can't say something nice..don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER
>
>DISNEY UNIVERSITY CLASS OF '92

Denise I will try to save you...I did the same thing last year..posted
about the College Program.  If anyone is specifically interested in
the WDW Program, I did it for the past 2 summers and plan to become a
permanent cast member when I graduate in May...My address is below..

Good luck Denise..:-)

Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Howard Ashman
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:45:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <Bw4L0t.DIB@nic.umass.edu> ltw@titan.ucc.umass.edu (LEE T WARNER) writes:
>
>  Howard Ashman is a lyrical genius.  His lyrics are comparible to no one
>elses (This was drastically shown with the musical flop Newsies).  The songs
>for such musicals as Beauty and The BEast, The Little Mermaid, and Little
>Shop of Horrors fit their respective genres so well that most people take
>them for granted.  If you have not sat down and truly listened to the B&TB
>soundtrack, then I highly recommend you do.  Ashman has an amazing ability
>to find the exact word that is necessary for the repective time in the music
>and in the movie.  This is a rare gift that has practically been lost with
>the decline of musicals.  
>  Of course, Ashman also has the amazing ability to write for adults and 
>children alike, but that is not what seperates him from the others.  Nobody,
>and I repeat, NOBODY has the inherent lyrical timing of Howard Ashman.  It is
>truly a shame that the public lost him to AIDS when he and Menkmen had just
>recently begun the new generation of Disney Musicals.  He will be missed 
>amongst the musical community and Disney fans.  Personally, I have never
>met Howard Ashamn, but yet, somehow, I have.
>
>Well, there you have it.  I've blurted out my two bits in front of thousands.
>Any and all are welcome to reply.
>
>
>--Lee Warner
>  --The University of Massachusetts at Amherst.


Looks like we may have our own genius for tributes here! ;-)

What impresses me most about Ashman is the simplicity of his lyrics.
There's really not a whole lot of lyrical poetry there--just simple
words and ideas that everyone can understand without thinking too
hard.  As Lee mentioned, it's the placement that makes the songs
special.  Clarity and wit to the extreme both enhance the experience
we receive from his musicals.  Ashman's style seems to particularly suit
Disney's brand of animation and no-nonsense story-telling.  We are
left with no doubt that Gaston is an egomaniac, or that Louis is a
sadistic, godless chef.  And I've been left with no doubts about
Ashman's genius.

As for what he's done before Little Shop...I know I have something
about that somewhere.  I'll post what I have if and when I find it,
in case anyone else is interested.  As sort of a side-note, does
anyone know if Menken's going to work on any more Disney *animated*
films?


- Robert Cook
From: cs64fad@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: backstage encounters
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:49:21 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Oct15.190937.6117@u.washington.edu> mousktr@milton.u.washington.edu (Denise Lockner) writes:
>
[text deleted]
>
>It was a great way to end the night.  The "Goofy" parade, floats, however,
>are a different story.  I have YET to meet a Cast Member that liked that 
>parade!! My biggest nightmare was walking to work at 3:15 during the
>
[text deleted]
>
>-Denise
>*******
>"If you can't say something nice..don't say nothin' at all." -THUMPER
>
>DISNEY UNIVERSITY CLASS OF '92


I can't bear to watch or listen to that parade, either!  Everyone
watching it seemed to enjoy it enough.  I try to stay as far away as
possible.  This is Disney, yes, but does it have to be THAT corny?!
And their attempts to be "hip" don't work--they should be scrapped if
that's the best they can do (or even if it was better, IMO).

Gee, I just sounded like the guy who wrote "Stick to shorts."


- Robert Cook
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Competition for Aladdin?
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:28:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Animator Richard Williams, who directed the animation in Who Framed
Roger Rabbit, may finally release his own animated feature The Thief
and the Cobbler, based on a story in the Arabian Nights.  He's been
working on it for, oh, about twenty years or so.  It was supposed to
have been released in 1975 (when Disney was doing nothing major),
but I read a report in US News and World Report in 1988 that he had
finished only fifteen minutes of it!  The latest word is that his
film is 80 minutes long and very near completion (they said January
1, 1993).  Warner Brothers recently backed out of their distribution
deal, forcing Williams to seek another distributor.  On his staff,
at least in recent years, is renowned former Disney animator Art
Babbitt.  Disney, in fact, provided training and inspiration to
Williams, when he was fifteen, for free.

Based on Williams' record to date, I wouldn't take his completion
date too seriously.  It's kind of funny, though, how after twenty
years he suddenly decides that he's finished--just when Aladdin is
being released.  Hmmm.... ;-)


- Robert Cook
From: jmays@cipc1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Jennifer Mays)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Haunted Mansion Tombstone
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:08:30 GMT
Reply-To: jmays@cipc1.UUCP (Jennifer Mays)
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR Corporation - Dayton, OH


Here's my favorite stone in front of the Mansion:

HERE LIES GOOD 'OLE FRED
A GREAT BIG ROCK FELL ON HIS HEAD

Jenny

-- 
Jennifer Mays
Jennifer.Mays@cipc1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM
...!uunet!ncrcom!cipc1!jmays
From: STEVEN.SULLIVAN@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Steven M Sullivan")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Please Settle This!
Date: 16 Oct 92 13:21:51 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Would you Disney netters please settle this friendly disagreement?

Person 1 says that the castles at Disneyland and WDW are both Cinderella's
castles.

Person 2 says the the castle at Disneyland is Cinderella's castle and the
castle at WDW is Sleeping Beauty's castle.

Who is correct?

BTW, while we're on the subject, who's castles are in Tokyo and France?

                                       Thanks!
From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Children & 3-D Movies
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:52:23 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

In article <1992Oct7.153908.15195@news.ysu.edu> ad198@yfn.ysu.edu (Carl Landis) writes:
[Truly heartrending tale of how WDW has scarred Mr. Landis's daughter
for life omitted]
>Has anybody else had any similar experiences?  PLEASE say
>yes so I don't feel like a total failure as a parent!

We went with our two boys, ages six and three at the time.  The only
attractions we avoided thinking they might be too intense for the kids
were Space Mountain, Thunder Mountain, and Body Wars (if I had it to do
over again I would try Body Wars).  We avoided some others, thinking the
kids would find them boring.  We did the Haunted Mansion, Pirates of the
Caribbean, the Norwegian boat thing in EPCOT, Universe of Energy (with the
dinosaurs), you name it.

On a couple of attractions like Star Tours and the Haunted Mansion, our
three-year-old would be very subdued.  After leaving, however, he showed
no aftereffects.  To this day he speaks of the Haunted Mansion with no
apparent bitterness.

The only trauma was caused by Mr. Toad's Wild Ride.  After riding it once,
the three-year-old refused (as only a three-year-old can refuse) to enter
any of the rides having similar-looking entrances (Snow White, Peter Pan).
-- 
Els Withers                   email: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.mil
Department of Mathematics     phone: (410)267-3192 / fax: (410)267-4883
United States Naval Academy
Annapolis, MD  21402-5002     Senri no tabi mo ippo yori...
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 15 Oct 1992 07:42:01 MST
From: <ICWFM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Howard Ashman

Two notes, just in case anyone is interested.

"The Art of Animation" is now out in paperback.  It doesn't have the snazzy
cover of the harback, but it is more affordable.

The broadway cast album of "Little Shop of Horrors" is now available on CD.
The movie soundtrack is great, but there is more music on the show version.
***Correct the above line to read "The off-broadway cast album".

Ciao.

Fred McIlvain
icwfm@asuacad
From: Rich_Koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Rich Koster)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Disneyana - Backstage Tour - Continues
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:45:40 CST
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

Sorry for the delay with part 3 of the Behind The Scenes Tour
article. The entire series is not finished being written yet. We're
writing the different parts and then posting them, which is why
there has been a delay since part two. There will be a part 4 and
at least a part 5 after that, given the amount of detail we are
including, also with a slight delay between parts.
 
My wife and I are relating what happened on our Innovations In Action
tour without the aid of photographs (which are not allowed) or notes
(which we didn't take because the tour was too exciting to think about
jotting things down).  The tour is so engrossing, however, that the
interesting details are still fresh in our minds as if we are still
there living them.  We highly encourage everyone to attend this
backstage tour if you are able to do so.
 
BTW, thanks to all who responded privately to my query asking if I am
giving too much detail -- it has been a unanimous response that the
level of detail is fine the way it is.
 

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

Internet: rich_koster@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US
    UUCP: rex!agwbbs!rich_koster
From: hancock@inland.com (Tom Hancock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: The Small One
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:56:21 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <92287.083252WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu>, <WTQ@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> I'm not familiar with most of the post 1970 Disney animation. Recently I've
> read little blurbs regarding a "1978-Special" that was done by Don Bluth,
> however, none of my other Disney books mention it. Can someone fill me in
> on this film or recommend a book that has information?

	"Small One" is a 'Christmas special', set in new testament
times, about a donkey called "Small One" who gets threatened with being
made into donkey leather, but ends up carrying the Virgin Mary to
Bethlehem.  Directed by Don Bluth and released in 1978.  It is/was
available on tape.  Check your local video rental store.

					Tom H.
-- 
hancock@inland.com          |My company and I agree:
Tom Hancock -- Assoc. Engr. |    I speak for myself, and not the company!
<i> Inland Steel Co. <i>    |
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Elect Roger Rabbit for president in '92  "He'll make us laugh."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: hsu@ecf.toronto.edu (HSU TITUS HENG-HSUEH)
Subject: Re: DARK HORSE Godzilla
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:47:11 GMT

In article <92287.161413CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu> CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>In message: <Bw2MJB.6Bv@ecf.toronto.edu>, Hsu Titus Heng-Hsueh said:
>
>>Speaking of Orion, I just read through it a few days ago.  That book is very
>>difficult to understand (Sort of typical for Masamune manga).  In the first
>>few pages, Masamune introduces tons of special terms.  Also, the way he words
>>his sentences is also rather tough to absorb.  This 250 pg. book took me
>>close to 2 hours to go through.  It actually felt more like having read a
>>novel, as opposed to a manga, after I was done with it.
>
>AKK! You read a Shirow manga in *2 HOURS*!?!?! You have comprehension skills
>far in advance of mine, my friend. Admittedly, I'm talking Proteus trans, and
>the english versions may be less clear than the original Japanese, but still.
>Usually takes me 3-4 hours per book, first run-through. May take 3-4 readings
>to begin to comprehend. I thought the name was (eng version) Masamune Shirow,
>(Japanese order) Shirow Masamune?
>
>
It is true that it is accepted widely that the name should be 'Shirow' as opposed
to 'Shiro-'.  I just felt that it is a very unorthodox way to romanize his name,
so I adapted the conventional method.  It's only me, so please don't worry about it.


Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
From: s92458km@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Kunio Muto)
Subject: FSS: The Truth (Maybe)
Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus.
Distribution: rec.arts.manga
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:03:35 GMT


Yes I am back to clear out the questions..... 

There are two classes of knights, Gods and the Mirage. The difference
between the two is that the Gods belong to the ARMY of AKD, while the
Mirage Knights are Amaterasu's private possession. And among the
Mirage Knights, there are the Right, or the official Mirage Knights,
and the Left, or the unofficial Mirage Knights. The numbers of the
Mirage Knights you ordinarily see are the numbers of the official
Mirage Knights. (ie. Aisha Codante, Falk.U. Rogner, for example.)
Nothing, or not much about the "Left" Mirage Knights (Zoom, Shaft,
etc) are known... I guess the reader has to figure out. 

Actually, as I view in the recent issues of Newtype, two things
occurred during the mess in the Floating Temple. One, as we see, is
that the seal of the Left Mirage Knights temporarily disappeared, due
to Sopp's "death." So all the Left Mirage Knights went out in a frenzy
to screw around. The other thing that happened, due to Sopp's death,
is that the seal of the "demons" being held disappeared. These demons
are unknown creatures from an unknown dimension; we just know that
these things are there to destroy, however. Things turned out fine,
however, since Lachesis pinned Shaft and supposedly made him into her
"slave" and the goddess "Waterdragon" (otherwise known as Arch, I
believe) resealed the demon monsters away....so far this is the only
things I can say. Vol.5 of the Five Star Stories will be coming out at
then end of this month in Japan, and Nagano is going on a three month
vacation (again!!) ...



--
				The kunedog (s92458km@sfc.keio.ac.jp)
				Freshman, Keio Univ. SFC. 
				Faculty of Policy Management
From: MARK.CHILENSKAS@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Mark Chilenskas")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Orion
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:19:48 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

Orion arrived at Million Year Picnic on Wednesday, and i read my copy
last night.  Here are my first impressions.

The art style is less consistent than Appleseed.  Rather than staying
fairly strictly in a "realistic" style, the book occasionally strays
into a slightly "deformed" style.  This lends more visual humor, where
my memory of Appleseed is that it had more subtle situation and dialog
humor.  Some of the backgrounds get fairly sketchy and abstract, which
worked really well in a space warp scene but could get annoying if it
is used to make action scenes "read faster" later on in the series.
Some of the costumes are really nice, and all the faces are
interesting.  The panel layout is varied enough to be non-boring, but
doesn't have the diagonal action and non-rectangular panels that make
me go back and look at the layout without worrying about the story.

If you have a low tolerance for pop mysticism, you probably won't like
the story.  The central premise is that the civilization is capable of
examining magic in a technical or engineering sense of analysis.  There
are cute sub-atomic particle terms for Yin and Yang, and they interact
with normal sub-atomic particles, and how this works is suitable for
smalltalk over a few beers.  There are two factions already identified
in the first issue, one which believes that magic can't progress without
this kind of technological examination, the other seems to believe that
such analysis misses the point.  The latter faction includes the
beautiful protagonist, and the first major conflict is occuring because
her father is Doing Something Awful.

There isn't much chance for a lot of characterization in just one episode,
but what is there looks promising.  The Beautiful Protagonist seems a
cross between Deunan of Appleseed and Battia of Outlanders, the Wizend
Opponent seems really competent for a change and we already have an
Unreachable Handsome Objective and an Old Friend Needing Reconciliation.
Just cyphers now, but Deunan and Bri got more complex as Appleseed
progressed too.

The production quality of the book seems fine.  The blacks are crisp
and the shading comes through with plenty of texture.  The book is
perfect bound, but the editorial page claims that is because the first
installment was so long and promises that a less expensive format will
be used for later issues.  My guess is the 48 Pages! No Ads! format of
Outlanders, Venus Wars and Caravan Kidd will be used for Orion as well.

Good read, good looking, and a company worth supporting.  Go buy many
copies.

R Mark Chilenskas
Chilenskas@Office.wang.com