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From: cb8t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carlos Bispo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.portuguese
Subject: Re: Existe algo alem do futebol em Portugal
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:47:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.EepNiPO00WBNI1vYZp
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA



Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.portuguese: 8-Oct-92 Re: Existe algo
alem do fut.. by Frank Pinto@cis.umassd.e 
>In <YeokXNu00YV7E2GLhE@andrew.cmu.edu> cb8t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Carlos Bispo) wri
>tes:
> 
>>Ola' a todos

... texto apagado ...

>Prezado Sr. Vasconcelos
> 
Correccao Exmo. Senhor Engenheiro Carlos Bispo... :-)

>Eu acho que abri uma lata cheia de minhocas quando escrevi aquela carta.
>Fiquei muito adimirado ( e contente ) que uma pessoa tivesse tempo de
>invocar uma estatistica impressionante como voce fez.

Se voce fica impressionado com meia duzia de contas de somar...

> 
>Eu nao odeio futebol, eu sou brasileiro , torco para o Vasco da Gama
>do Rio, gosto do Cruzeiro de Belo Horizonte, ja fui pessoalmente em 
>2 copas mundial (Mexico, Italia) tenho fotos com: Pele, Vava, Nilton
>Santos, Gerson, Maradona, e ate uma com a estrela portuguesa da copa de 
>(se nao me engano 66) Euzebio. 

Nao foi isso que transpareceu da sua mensagem... pelo que nao se percebe
a razao do enfado demonstrado na sua mensagem!
E a proposito, era o Eusebio! Quanto ao ano, nao estou certo! Nao fui la' :-)

>Outra coisa: Aonde vistes na minha
>mensagem que eu sou intelectual? De fato no contrario, voce parece que
>e' o intelectual (Carnagie Melon : The birthplace of AI).
> 

Portugal nao e' so' Lisboa e a CMU nao e' so' AI...

>Foi um prazer em trocar de ideias contigo, e por favor, nao deixe
>estas "coisinhas" afetar a sua pressao.
> 
>com muito respeito

A pressao permanece nos niveis normais para a epoca... :-)

Carlos
Newsgroups: soc.culture.portuguese
From: fmhv@minerva.inesc.pt (Fernando Manuel Vasconcelos)
Subject: Re: Existe algo alem de futebol em Portugal?
Organization: INESC, Lisboa, Portugal
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:12:06 GMT

In article <Bvptzx.Kqt@umassd.edu> rolls@cis.umassd.edu (Frank Pinto) writes:

>
>Alo todos
>
>Sera que poderiamos trocar o assunto de futebol
>para qualquer outro?
>
>
>Xico

Com certeza que podemos . Alguma sugestao ou tambem nao te consegues 
lembrar de nada ? :-) :-) :-)

Todos os meus posts ( e alias de todos os outros ) que falam de Futebol
vem claramente identificados no Subject.

Quem nao gosta de Futebol carregue em 'n' .

Quanto ao trocar nao me parece boa ideia. Acrescentar sim. Mas isso so'
depende de voces, os que nao gostam de futebol, ... infieis :-) :-) 
-- 
Fernando Manuel Hourtiguet de Vasconcelos ( INESC ) 
Email:  fmhv@inesc.inesc.pt  Phone: +351 (1) 3100216 Fax: +351(1)525843 
Adress: Rua Alves Redol No 9, sala 208 Apartado 10105 
	1017 Lisboa CODEX - Portugal 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Re: Growing Bonsai
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 09:01:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.114540.203016@uctvax.uct.ac.za> rchill01@uctvax.uct.ac.za writes:
>I have recently been given a Bonsai English Oak tree ( yes, i know, it seems a
>little strange) for my Birthday and know absolutely nothing about the subject,
>but am very interested in finding out about bonsai, it's history, and
>especially how to look after and grow them, because if it dies, then the person
>who gve it me is going to kill me.
>
>So, any bonsai enthusiasts or anyone at all, please write.
>
>Mike

Check out alt.bonsai

Regards,
Thor
edmtl@fiol.uib.no (NeXTmail o.k.)
From: ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: PARTLY! WRONG.
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:17:25 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
NNTP-Posting-Host: schutz.ee.uts.edu.au

ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:

>MARK,
...
>                     ARE YOU BRITISH! YOU CERTAINLY CONDUCT YOUR
>HUMANITY AS SUCH. BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH KOREANS ARE MY PEOPLE. AND, MY
>FREINDS ARE MY FRIENDS FOREVER.

Has anyone seen that Rikiya Asano is an anagram of "I asian yo-yo".
Oh, sorry it's not. I wonder how I got that idea. I am only happy
that my email does not have flashing bold-font capability: he would use it.
Now I know where the sound-truck drivers come from.

An uncapitalized version of his theory that we are all rascists
and should acknowledge this is found in Edward Said's "Orientalism",
an excellent book  only flawed by having no  mention of non-European rascism.

Is all this heat and humidity needed? But don't stop the fun.

-ricko
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Smoking by Japanese adolescents
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:26:57 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

I should also add that these women that I know cover an age span from 20 to
about 50.

smittie
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From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: JUNET (INTERNET) FIN NAGANO HELP!
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:10:45 GMT
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc2

In article <1992Oct13.102033.23252@actrix.gen.nz> Peter.Weekes@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>I have a friend who lives in NAGANO-shi who wants to get an INTERNET address.
>
>Are there any bbs systems in Nagano which have this INTERNET access for
>example ?

I'm following up rather than posting personally as I invite followups describing
that what I write next is wrong!

A friend of mine in Hakodate has emailed me to say that private email in
Japan is ILLEGAL (!) He described the law (I think he copied this from
somewhere)

"Current telecommunications regulations in Japan prohibit the use of
'communication' services via privately leased lines. Databases and other
services are available. Please use CompuPass or other international VAN
services to access this service."

He's using Compuserv (in the states I assume). To get to Compuserv (70 yen per
minute!!) he has to go through Niftyserv (40 yen per minute!!). It seems
difficult to believe that there is not a cheaper way of accessing the internet,
especially compared to what people on services such as NZ's actrix service 
(e.g. my brother) are paying (can't remember how much exactly, but a LOT
less than that).

Does anyone know if there are any cheaper ways to link up to email in 
Japan?

Cheers,

Ross-c
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: u926009@postoffice.utas.edu.au (HAJIME YOJI)
Subject: Re: Actually!
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:26:48 GMT

In article <7340@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:
> 
> I am sorry you had a bad experience here. Some people do... most
> don't. But when you return home to beloved Nippon, please watch
> closely. When you see an O-Ji-san refer to a gaijin as "ketou";
> see people refused admission to you favorite watering-hole because
> the are foreigners; see a Japanese woman scolded for being with
> a foreigner; see empty seats on each side of a gaijin on a
> crowded bus or train - well... whatever... - you have your big
> chance.
> 
> Be a hero.

Before i say somethings, I must tell that I never been to US and Australia
and New Zealand is the only western nations I ever been. So I have no idea
about how bad racial relations are in US. So I want make much response to 
my poor fellow  Japanese man. Rather doing that, I just want to consult my
personal problems I'm currently facing..
My problem is that I can't really get on with Australian(or more precisely
white Austrlaian). I tend to feel awkward when I'm talking to Australian 
and I found hard to just make conversation with them. 
When I was new in here, I thought the reason is my poor English. At that 
time, I was struggling to communicate, but now I study Law/Economics and I
don't regard this as excuse. So, I thought that the reason must be the 
different cultures cos I had no problems making friends other Asians. But 
this year, I found myself hanging around with blacks from Pacific Island 
most times and many of them are my best friends. Many Asians wonder how I 
can mix around with them cos I'm the only asians mix with outside ethnic 
groups(ie. outside Asians) So the difference culture is no prob for me.
To make thing more complex, I have no trouble mixing around with those 
Australian who is Asian origin but I can also get on with whites from
overseas.
The way I see is that there is some barrier built up in my mind and I'm
pretty eager to fix this problem.
I believe that many foriener who went to Japan would faced same problems
so if there is any advice, let me know 

Youji Hajime
From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Re: Actually
Date: 13 Oct 1992 16:17:59 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: four-lab4.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Racism vs. Economics

In a previous article Hajime Yoji-san writes:

  >                              ...The way I see is that Japan is 
  >more racist oriented than US. But, on the other hand, US is VERY 
  >discriminating in term of wealth distribution(I think it is one of the 
  >worst in OECD).

It seems that Hajime-san doesn't realize that if Japan had more
minorities, they too would have much more unequal distribution of
wealth. (Example:  look at all the poor middle eastern persons in
Yoyogi park in Tokyo). The US is based on a somewhat free enterprise 
system which allows almost anyone to start their own business and
work hard at it to succeed.  This is the reason why so many immigrants
come here.  Just because the distribution of income is unequal does not
mean that the system is completely unfair.  Of course no system is
perfect, but the American system provides the most equal opportunity of
any nation.  (And I speak as an immigrant myself.)

Japan on the other hand, discrimates against foreigners as well as their
own people so that they are prevented from obtaining the level of success
of their potential.  The ability to start your own business and to
compete freely on the open market doesn't happen in Japan. I can cite
Toy 'R' Us's battle to open its stores in Japan as a good example of
Japan's discriminatory policies which prevent new businesses from becoming
very successful. 

Japan is more racist, I agree.  But I don't believe the US discriminates
in terms of opportunity for wealth.  Much rather the opposite is true.
We can debate on the net over why the US has so much more visible
poverty and I have my own opinions, but that is probably more for
another newsgroup.

  >Second question is 'Which do you think is better, racism or poverty?'
  >My opinion is I really don't know.

Poverty is an economic state which can be overcome by one's self (at
least in the United States this is true), but racism is a problem with
society that is much harder if not impossible for an individual to
change.  With racism, there's eternal opression, while poverty is just a
transitory state which I and many immigrants like myself pass through on
our way to financial freedom.  This is an easy question to answer.
Poverty in itself, will always be better than racism.

Jaa, James

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
James C. Liu - Okay!  I admit I'm a karaoke addict.  Tuesdays and Fridays
               Cafe Jun.  Berkeley.  On University just across from UC
               Theatre, next to Round Table Pizza. Japanese, Korean, English
               See ya' there!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
End of article 19645 (of 19699)--what next? [npq]
From: d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp (Daisaku Itasaka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: gifts to bring to Japan?
Date: 13 Oct 92 05:32:21 GMT
Organization: NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd., Tokyo, Japan

In article <1992Oct12.184830.13502@lsil.com>
	mitch@lsil.com writes:

>If you really want to make a kid happy, take beef jerky.  It's like gold over
>there.  Everyone (unless they have bad teeth) loves beef jerky.

Excuse me but
how can you say this?
It's like gold?
What the hell are you talking about?
Is this some kind of attemption that let the US export their beef more
to Japan or something?

-- 
A wrong guy in a wrong place at wrong time...
						 Daisaku Itasaka
				      d-itasak@nmit.mt.nec.co.jp
				NEC Microcomputer Technology Ltd.
From: jice@echo.asd.sgi.com (John Eisenman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Buddhist Sects
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:50:39 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: echo.asd.sgi.com

In article <1bkff4INNfr8@agate.berkeley.edu>, robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu
(Henry Robertson) writes:
|> I know there is a Nichiren sect in Oakland, CA.  Their target
|> audience is
|> blue-collar workers, so in fact when I inquired into their religion
|> the
|> guy kept stressing the fact that "it is a religion for laymen" and
|> was 
|> unenthusiastic to go further.  Other Soka Gakkai sects throughout 
|> Northern California target yuppies or puppies (poor urban
|> professionals),
|> Americanized to one extent to another.  Nowadays, there are
|> interfaith
|> Buddhist congregations in San Jose to seve the needs of a composite
|> audience
|> whether they're hinayana, Llamaist, Mahayanist, or whatever else. 
|> Seicho
|> no Ie also has a temple in San Jose, catering to older
|> 1st-generation
|> immigrants.
|> 

I have recently read a book (I forget the title, it is at home) that
described Soka Gakkai as incredibly materialistic.

--
John Eisenman (jice@sgi.com)

Silicon Graphics Computer Systems
7U-550
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P.O. Box 7311		
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(415) 390-1551
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip)
Subject: Re: Good Luck Letter
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 10:25:32 GMT

In article <1944@hsdndev.UUCP> rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275) writes:
>
> v999s3m2@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chili O'Cima) writes:
>
>>Further, I guess some of you deal with such a GOOD LUCK letter. Then 
>>I want to ask you what you did at that time. Will I really be happy if
>>I follow the instructions? I got the letter 2 days ago, but nothing 
>>good is happen! 
>
>   Too bad! 
>   I recommend you to make a paper doll from the letter, and hit a nail
>into it, and burn it, and throw it into a river or a drain. The curse
>will return back to the sender.   :-)

Even better if you wrap a white cloth belt around your head and two burning
candles, one on each side of your head when you hit a nail into the paper
doll with your wooden hammer :-D  I like this when I see it in those
manga :)

Patrick YIP
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: USUALLY! WHEN I'M WRITING.....
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:28:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.ker21cu00Uzx01L8AN
	<Bw2Do6.7v7@world.std.com>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

CHARLIE,
    
                                USUALLY! WHEN I'M WRITING, I'M DOING
SOMETHING ELSE AT THE SAME TIME. AT THIS TIME I FORGOT WHAT I WAS DOING
BUT I WAS DOING IT UNTIL THREE OR FOUR IN THE MORNING. THIS IS SUPPOSE
THE READ: SO,  YOU ARE IN NIPPON BUT RIGHT NOW FATTCHE(A PERSON'S NAME)
FROM SINGAPORE IS READING WHILE I'M WRITING TO YOU.(REFERRING TO IF I
HAVE TAKEN SOME KIND OF PRIDE IN THE IMPERIALIST NIPPON I WOULD BE LYING
IN CALLING MY FRIEND. KNOWING WHAT THE IMPERAILIST DID TO THE CHINESE
AND SINGAPOEANS).


             THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR MYSELF UP.
From: andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Shameless Japaness must recognize and apologize for Invasion China
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:56:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct16.035628.1530
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1bl955INNldo@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>Guiltless Chinese, go jump in the lake.

I guess the immaturity of response shows the depth of your understanding.

I suppose above goes well along with his last wonderfully insightful
comment which went something like, 'my grandfather kicked your
grandfather's butt'.   

 "No mattter how many beings there are,
      I vow to rescue them..."

One of Four_Great_Vows from Zen monk recitation.  
But, just maybe some are beyond rescue... :)

Andrew Sung Hyun Kim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa)
Subject: Re: Where are the Japanese
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 03:37:40 GMT

I convince that the preceding article made Mr. Rikiya Asano a frequent
poster. :-)

-- 
Nobuyasu KANEKAWA  (E-mail address in Japan : kanekawa@hrl.hitachi.co.jp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Larry Greenfield)
Subject: Scary in Japan
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 22:09:14 GMT

I just want to put in my 2c here... 
   When I was in Japan for the summer of 1990, I travelled all over, from 
Kyuushuu to Hokkaido.  When you do a lot of travelling, you meet all 
types.  I never really ran into Japanese kids or adults "scared" of me as 
it were, or prejudiced of me. I travelled alone, I was 23 then.  I did 
encounter some of the usual though. On Shodo island, I was walking along, 
and some kids after school (maybe around 10 years old) were murmurring 
about the gaijin, staring, but it was more curiousity than mean.  They 
went to the little candy shop to buy some candy, and I followed them too. 
Any scared feelings they might have had towards me instatly ended when I 
put the Y10 coin in the famicom (Nintendo)the shop had - Y10 for 3 
minutes of play. I was trying super mario bros 2, and all of a sudden I 
was inundated by helpful hints in Japanese from the kids. They smiled 
when I talked back in Japanese too (not fluent, but I could get by). 
   Another instance was once in a little larger town, I was just walking 
down the street from where a shrine was, and the kids came up to me to 
say hello, and asked me where I was from (in Japanese of course, they 
wereonly about 10ish too). They wanted to know if I took a plane to get 
here, and if I liked it, etc.  
   I guess what I'm trying to say is that I encountered curiosity a bit 
here and there, but never meaness. 
  The only place where I ever really felt "stared at" was once on Rebun 
Island. I had rented a scooter from the youth hostel, and had been 
driving around thte island. I was away from the city, (it's not that big 
of an island, but I was in the less-populated area), and it was getting 
cold and was around lunch time. I stopped ona street that had a small 
restaurant for curry rice.  For some strange reason, that was the only 
time I ever felt stared at, but everyone was staring at me insdie there. 
When the curry rice came, the lady politely put a fork beside me too. 
Since I've used chopsticks sicne I was a small kid, I naturally just used 
the chopsticks, and everyone was staring at me.  The ice melted as I was 
leaving, I decided to ask for directions back into town.  I was kinda 
lost and it was getting colder.  That seemed to do the trick.
:::::Larry:::::

--
Larry Greenfield (bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:8713 soc.culture.china:27420
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Actually
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:43:02 GMT
	<#*#@byu.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Lambert,

              Personally, You all were never my "Heroes", that's
Hollywood perfered to show. Even though the age of heroes has past,
their are still thoses
human beings caught in their tails. I have no doubt that most of what
you say is true. Your words are truely note-worthy. Sure, I take it to
be my responiblity
to try to the utmost of my ability to stop discrimination not only when I get
home but also in this my home America. I hope that you too will have the
mind-set and responibility when you go back to beloved America to care
for the rights of others. When you see the Asian personm treating the
Mexican person with discontent while he treats you "better" or the White
American treating another young Black American foolishly than that will
be your chance. If not, may the God of my Lord Christ Jesus deal with
you ever so severly.


Mister Luke,

                  Your youth definetly proceed your maturity. It
probably seems 
like I look cute when I it seems like I'm being sarcastic; This is only because
I'm using English. Just as though it seemed as though I was rambling,
English is
very shallow when one is trying to translate an paradigm from lets say
Japanese(or any asian character language).Difficult but shallow. Sorry
for the inconvience. By live in America, It is a lie to say that all the
White racists live in, excuse me, run around in the woods. There are
those who run around in center city Tokyo. I see that you like Ansel
Adams.  







Tad


       No, I wish not to communicate with you behind a curtain. Please
if you are not comfortable with this format, don't write me. Thank
you.(I don't have the time to be two faced).



Peace all


                            "The yellowman"!

                                        M. Ali

                            "Why should I serve you".

                                          Ho Chi Minh


                            " Have to do dis, dis way".

                                             Harriet Tubman
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu ()
Subject: Re: Curry (Was: Scary in Japan)
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:48:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.095911.2566@u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
>bbs.lar@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Larry Greenfield) writes:
>>When the curry rice came, the lady politely put a fork beside me too. 
>>Since I've used chopsticks sicne I was a small kid, I naturally just used 
>>the chopsticks, and everyone was staring at me.
>
>You ate karee-raisu with a chopstick? She brought you fork? 
>Hmm ... I've always eaten karee with a spoon, and all the restaurants I've
>been to (in Japan) brought spoons. But I guess there's no offcial "rule" :-)
>

Actually I think there is a law in Japan requiring that curry rice be
served in a deep plate that is nearly a bowl, but not quite, with a
large curry-yo^ spoon. I don't know what the penalty for
non-compliance is though.

(BTW, the part about this being a law is a joke. But this is the way
*I* always saw it served. I'd've stared too, if I saw someone eating
curry rice with chopsticks.)

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
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