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From: rlm7638@tamsun.tamu.edu (Jack McKinney)
Subject: Re: Amusing Season 6 errors (None posted previously)
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:48:25 GMT

dwolff@cozy.Prime.COM (David Wolff) writes:
>My sharp-eyed wife (hey, she's an editor) found a *real* blooper.  When
>Worf practices his quick-draw at the end... the gun switches hands!
>It starts out in his left hand, the camera angle changes, and shazam,
>it's in his right hand!
>

      This is quite normal when the person is looking at himself in the
mirror. It starts out in his left hand because we are looking at it in
the mirror (he is checking how he looks). It switches to his right when
the camera changes to look directly at him. What _is_ unusual is that
Dorn, a right-hander, _normally_ shoots (a phaser, anyway) left-handed.


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From: rem@public.BTR.COM (Robert E. Maas  rem@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Thoughts on "A Fistful of Datas" **** SPOILERS!
Date: 15 Nov 92 14:32:57 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu asks: <<what did Troi actually DO?>>

She saved Worf's life (the scene where she first shows up) so we didn't
have to endure another episode where Worf gets killed but then isn't
really dead.

<<Alexander had some nice lines, but it was still not enough to fully
flesh out the character)>>

He proved he's an expert user of the holodeck computer. No hesitation,
no checking the manual or online help, he knew exactly how to backtrack
the program and change the difficulty level. For a 5-year-old, that's
pretty decent.

<<Maybe it'll be better when I re-watch this episode on tape,>>

When I watched it the second time tonight, the jokes at the start
weren't quite as enjoyable, but I liked the subtle stuff in the Western
holodeck scene better than the first time.
From: det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Worf, the Klingon Punching Bag...
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:17:50 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
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In article <YBF=RVB@engin.umich.edu> avalon@synecdoche.engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Richard Chittenden) writes:
>
>Worf did kill Duraas (sp?).  That's the only time I can
>think of.  It is sickening to see a Klingon being so
>un-wariorlike.  The writers should allow Worf to satisfy
>his blood-lust.

He also killed the Klingon renegade who was aiming a disruptor into the
dilithium chamber ("Heart of Glory").  That was a merciful act, to let
him die as a warrior instead of in a shameful execution.  You might want
to listen to Worf's speech to his fellow Klingon about duty.  Picard
frowns upon killing if there is any alternative, so Worf's duty as a
warrior AND security chief is to try to keep any situation from getting
to the point where killing is necessary.

** minor "Rascals" SPOILERS ALERT ****



I agree that he botched it during the Ferengi takeover, or more accurately,
the writers botched it.  As I pointed out before, they could have written
it so he took out one or two of them and then another one dropped him.

By the way, several people keep referring to *6* Ferengi capturing the
ship.  We don't know how many Ferengi it took to seize the ship, only
how many they left on board after they thought they had everything
secured.  They would have needed most of them on the planet to control
nearly 1000 personnel forced into mining the ore for them.  For that matter,
there could have been more than six on board as a guard, if more than one
transporter room were utilized for the recapture.



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From: jwells@netcom.com (Jason Paul Wells)
Subject: Re: Nannites Vs Borg
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:22:52 GMT

glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  ) writes:

>ohdav@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (David OH) writes:

>>I saw the episode 'Evolution' yesterday (we are way behind on TNG seasons)
>>and thought that the nannites (right spelling??) could be an effective
>>weapon against the Borg. Imagine if these mechanical viruses got onboard 
>>the Borg ship! Hmm....any comments?

>	I believe this was mentioned as a way a possible way of fighting
>the Borg in one of the "Best of Both Worlds" episodes.  However, it was
>ruled out as a possibility because it would take too long to make 'em or
>something.  So we may indeed see this weapon used against our favorite
>collective consciousness in a future show (continuity in TNG?! ...
>wierder things have happened!) 

Yes, perhaps, but I also believe that in the "Best of Both Worlds" it
was brought up that if we bred the Nannites to fight our wars for us,
what does that make us? It becomes a moral dilemma. If worse comes to
worse, I admit there would be little choice in the matter. However, I
don't think that would fit with Gene's style, which the writers have
vowed time and time again to uphold...

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From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Re: ST:VII - Entertainment Weekly
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:07:29 GMT

>|> >The most recent Entertainment Weekly reported that Shatner is pitching
>|> >a story for a Star Trek VII at Paramount and lobbying to direct it again.
>|> >The story idea revolves around a falling out between Spock and Kirk and
>|> >continues to follow their frustrations with each other throughout...
>|> 
>|> Cinemafantastique reported that Paramount rejected Shatner's idea
>|> a while ago and that he wouldn't direct again.
>
>WHEW!! THANK GOODNESS :)
>|> 
>|> The current rumor mill is that Nimoy has submitted a script idea
>|> that has been sitting around at Paramount since the days of ST IV.
>
>Oh lord!  Why can't we just end this gracefully ...

Sayyyyy, you don't think that it's the Academy movie, do you? Lord knows
that idea has been beating around for such a bloody long time. It would
certainly be better than the old crew making another go at it. Let's
face it, they are getting up there.

An academy movie would be interesting. The comic book story with the
crew at the academy was quite good, so there may be hope for this idea
after all.

Of course, this is all just ideal specualtion.

-Craig.


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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Subject: Re: Exo-comps or Tater Tots
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:32:46 GMT
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Marie Cannizzaro (C14383@maccvm.corp.mot.com) wrote:
> These cute little devices reminded me of space prunes, tater tots
>or some twentieth century version of the Hamburglers sidekicks. MC

Actually, considering their plump shape and two feet and the fact
that the Thanksgiving season is coming in the U.S.A., my first thought
was "Electronic Turkeys"!
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From: quirk@pioneer.unm.edu (Gym Z. Quirk)
Subject: Re: ST:TNG has gone down the toilet!
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 02:51:37 GMT
Organization: Nit-Pickers for a Better Tomorow Afternoon
Distribution: na

In article <BxyvD9.7I7@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> dp66@mc4adm.UWaterloo.ca (Kevin L. Oberle) writes:
>Man, I'm so tired of all the postings that grumble about TNG.  If you
>no longer enjoy the show, then don't watch.  If you *must* still watch
>it, then accept the fact that you probably won't enjoy it, and stop
>complaining about it over these newsgroups.  They're for people who
>are enthusiasts of ST, or so that was the original intention.  I still
>enjoy TNG, and I don't want to have to read even the negative subject
>headings anymore.

YEAH!  Those people who are saddened by the drop in quality of TNG
since the 3rd/4th seasons have NO RIGHT to post about it!!!

[;-) for the humor-deficient.]
  
>Could the powers that be in the rec.arts.startrek universe please 
>create a new group, something like rec.arts.startrek.bitch&complain,
>to give these people their own forum, and get them out of our life?

RFD: rec.arts.startrek.moan.about.complainers.

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From: mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark A. Holtz)
Subject: List of Lists: Thanks to all who responded
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 03:25:40 GMT

Just a quick note....Thanks to all the folks who responded to the
my inquiry about the lists postings. If you got a bounced message
from sactoh0, sorry 'bout that. Some IDIOT turned off the group
permissions in my mail file, causing the mail program to reject all
mail to me. This occured only to my mail file.
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From: norbert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy James)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: An Ode to Spot
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:41:07 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1992Nov18.175312.5840@ncsu.edu> mfdanie@eos.ncsu.edu (MICHAEL FREDRIC DANIEL) writes:
>Will someone who has the text from Data's "Ode to Spot"
>please e-mail it to me directly?
>
>Thanks!
>

Me too!  or post it!

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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Cloaking devices (Spoilers) Rascals
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:40:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov16.190121.5950@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:

> The Federation does not mean for their ships to make war, unlike the
> Klingons and Romulans, who are races of warriors.  Federation ships'
> purposes are primarily exploration and peace ("...to explore brave
> new worlds...to seek out new life, and new civilizations...").

Sounds like the Feds are ripe for an invasion by the Romulans.

If they did have any cloaking devices available (or knew how to build one)
you'd have thought they would have tried it against the Borg.  (After all,
they needed ANY possible advantage).  So I'd conclude that they don't have a
*clue* how to build one, except for all the evidence that says that they DO.
                                        
Terry ";-)" Wood
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From: s_goetz@irau33.ira.uka.de (Oliver Goetz)
Subject: re: Where are the VULCANS on TNG?
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:59:00 GMT

In article <g92n3258.68.721916186@giraffe.ru.ac.za>, g92n3258@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR RL NICOL) writes:
|> Besides "Sarek" and "Unification", they appear in "Encounter at Farpoint" 
|> and "Conspiracy"

Don't forget the Vulcan doctor in "The Shizoid Man". However,
she had a strange name for a Vulcan woman (no T').

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From: Michael Scott Shappe <Michael-S-Shappe@cornell.edu>
Subject: Intros...is there a point?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A732BF65390345AD@uncle-mikey.cit.cornell.edu>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 20 Nov 92 20: 14:29 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: @cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:11:38 GMT

As some are bound to have noticed, the Weekly and Monthly intros have
stopped. The initial cessation of posting was due to a bug, but I have
not seen fit to correct it. Why? Because no one seems to have noticed! 

So, what do y'all think? Are there enough periodical postings already, or
should the Intros return?

Uncle Mikey
mss1@cornell.edu
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From: gkatz@csws2.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz)
Subject: Re: Nannites Vs Borg
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:43:46 GMT

In article <51140004@hpscit.sc.hp.com> lloyd@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Lloyd Chandler) writes:
>In rec.arts.startrek.current, gkatz@csws4.ic.sunysb.edu (Gerald W Katz) writes:
>
>[Lots of Stuff Deleted]
>
>> It has also been mentioned that due to the Borg's success rate
>> of assimilating cultures, they'd might assimilate the Nanites
>> before they could finish their mission.  In other words, they'd be
>> working for the Borg and hence used against the Federation.
>
>> gkatz
>
>Major question though...
>
>How could the Borg assimilate a Nanite?  The Nanties are microscopic, they
>live in the computer core [or that general area].  Given the current *style*
>of assimilation we have seen, how would this be possible??
>
>L.
>

I don't know.  It was just mentioned in the episode.
Besides, the writers most likely did not want
a quick solution to the Borg.  They want the Borg to
last awhile for more episodes.  They had to mention
the Nanites for continuity purposes.

gkatz


Oh, by the way, and please forgive me if this is the
wrong newsgroup to post, but two questions:

Could it be possible that the insect aliens that were
doing experiments on Riker be related to the Parasites
that took over Starfleet Command a few years ago?

In TOS, could the anti-matter universe in "The Alternative Factor",
the one with the two Lazarus's, be the Mirror universe?

Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.current:18787 rec.arts.startrek.misc:11757
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Star Trek TNG List of Lists [2/3] (November 1, 1992)
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:03:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: vidiot.4446
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Nov16.053505.13281@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark A. Holtz) writes:
<
<It is currently against Paramount contract to cut short the closing credits
<and the Paramount logo in first-run episodes. If your station is cutting the
<credits, cutting the episodes, or is running severe weather warnings during
<the actual program, then write to both the offending station and:

While it is against the contract to cut the credits, there is nothing to stop
the placement of weather warnings on the screen.  That is a public service that
should not be stopped.  Do not write letters to Paramount complaining about
that practice.

Mark, please note what I have said in future issues/postings.
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From: jal41820@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Smiley)
Subject: Re: ---< Quality of Life >--- Synapsis & *SPOILERS*
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:56:46 GMT

mneylon@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Michael Neylon) writes:
:)In other (non-Technobable) words, *SPOILERS*

:)COMMENTS

:)First, TECHONOBABLE:  There was understandable stuff, and incomprehensable
:)stuff.  The robots and stuff with neural networks makes sense (actually
:)it explain networks quite well).  However, the mining with a partical
:)stream lost me.  The solution to the problem was very confusing and 
:)I was lost to why they did it as such.  How come some episodes can
:)be as good or better than this, and have much less technobable?  

For some reason the technobabble didn't bother me that much. My focus
was on the exocomms, and I barely noticed the mining process. I guess
it's cause it was supposed to be future technology, and brand new, and
not something I *needed* to understand.

:)Second, (lack of) CONTINUITY:  So, what happened to the nanonites?  There's
:)not much to say here, except that much of the nanites episode was lost
:)in this one (definition of life, etc....).

Hmm... never even thought about this. The nanites showed a direct attack
at someone that tried to cause them harm. That pretty much proved they
were alive. We really didn't have that here. The only conclusive proof
was obtained by Data without much time to explain it to Riker.

:)Last major point, CHARACTERIZATION:  Geordi was way OUT of character.  I
:)dont think he would ignore Data's theory THAT easily, nor would Data

I don't think he was. They performed a test, and it pretty much seemed
that even *Data* thought the results denied his hypothesis. Data
just kept checking them over and over again. Geordi, on the other hand,
was pretty busy with his assignment, and really didn't have time to
work on Data's theories.

:)Other things were just left up for grabs...the poker game at the 
:)begining, for example.  This scene didnt even apply to the rest of
:)the episode.

It sometimes doesn't. It sometimes does. I don't think it really needs
to, although I'd LOVE to see the outcome of that game...   :)

:)other side notes.
:)-Troi had her one-liner again.  What is up with her and Paramount?

I didn't even notice her being gone.  :)
Actually, Worf wasn't there much, either. But this didn't bother me,
as I'd rather see a character not there much than somewhere (s)he didn't
belong.

:)-what special effects ....NOT!  I bet a video taper can find a string
:)or two....

I doubt it; they looked computer done. But even if they weren't, so what?

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From: news@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca
Subject: Re: I wanna Fistful of Troy!!!
Organization: McGill University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:57:33 GMT

In article <BxtLLw.FDD@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> sager@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Brian) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.084230.3993@wkuvx1.bitnet> pattecd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>>
>>     All analytical observations aside, I thought Troy looked rather
>>sexy in her leather pants!  8)
>>
>>
>     Dude,  What the hell????  We aren't the sexist pig, are we?

Hmm ... I don't think this observation was sexist.  I think we were
*supposed* to like Troi in her *tight* *red* *leather* pants.

I mean, it didn't really look like a period costume to me. :)

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Subject: Question
From: cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone)
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:49:44 EST
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From: delledg@uts.cc.wayne.edu (DeVaughn Elledge)
Subject: Re: ST: TNG on Joan Rivers
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit Mich.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:54:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.075555.5417@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ramid@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rudy Amid) writes:
>abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
>
>>Someone posted a message saying that the cast (except for Levar Burton)
>>would be on the Joan Rivers Show today. I set my VCR to record it and...I
>>had a power failure around noon today so it wiped out the timer and
>>nothing got taped. I'm not asking for someone to give me a transcript or
>>anything but could someone who actually saw it post a message (or email
>>me) saying what "interesting" things were said.
>>I'll leave it to you to decide what "interesting" is.
>
>   Well, I was scanning the TV channels at 2:30am EST, and I stumbled on
>the show.   Unfortunately, it was near the end already but I did manage
>catch a few things:
>!Rudy Amid              ///

The only thing I didn't like about that interview was the BILLIONS of commercials that seemed to appear after every question!!!

I did enjoy seeing the non-acting side of the actors.

The was a part where Gates McFadden was talking about she was pregnant and
the futher along in her pregnacy she got, the long her smock got. Then she
had to do her first love scene while she was 7-months pregnant. That was funny
I find my self looking at some of the old reruns trying to see If I can see
through the smock. 

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From: mike@nttor.uucp (Mike Hollander)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Official Dorm-Rec Review of "A Fistful of Data's" (spoilers)
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:23:04 GMT
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: Northern Telecom CAC

In article <BxsCF9.LD5@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Matt J. Martin) writes:
>  I fear bad scripts more than I fear women.  And I never met a woman that 
>was a match for me, in any area.  Nope, no fear here.  Thank you for playing,
>please feel free to try again.
>

Areas in which no woman is a match for Matt J. Martin:

	- sexism
	- obnoxiousness
	- obsequiousness
	- stupidity
	- arrogance
	- etc.

Female readers of r.a.s.c.: Rest assured that some of us males do
not disagree with the concepts of women in authority roles, women
rescuing men, women beating men in intellectual recreational
activities, etc. I for one would like to see more of it. 
Star Trek has always tried to show that men and women should be
treated equally where it comes to these abilities, which is one
of the prime reasons I'm such a fan.

Mike Hollander | mike@nttor.UUCP