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From: jdb@sunbim.be (Jurgen Debedts)
Subject: How strong are Siberian Husky's ?
Keywords: Siberian Husky health problems
Reply-To: jdb@sunbim.be
Organization: BIM Information Technology N.V. BelgiumA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:54:43 GMT

Hello there,

I'm looking for personal experiences on this one.
I have at home a Siberian Husky, and I'm looking for some advise.

Lately, several people have found it to be there duty, to try and 
scare me, telling me that Husky tend to die sooner, and get ill faster
and any other bread. In fact the rumours are quite opposite: some say
that they are as tough as a rock, others say that they are week as a baby.


What are your experiences on this? Are there special things to look out for?
I have got 2 other dogs (a little cross-bread and a Labrador Retriever), but 
Husky is my favourite, so I would like to give her the best possible threatement.

PS We are considerated as having a moderated climate (25 degrees Celsius is hot,
-5 degrees Celsius is bitter cold for us)


Any experiences and advises are welcome,

Thanks,



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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan)
Subject: Hip Dysplasia by the breed
Keywords: Hip Dyssplasia
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:06:14 CDT


  O.K. O.K.  enough with the Email, at last count 27 people emailed
me about their dogs chances of Hip Dysplasia. I have the entire list
at home and was going to post it tomorrow but below is a partial list.



    I have received a number of requests for incidence of 
Hip Dysplasia in certain breeds of dogs. Here is what I got
from the Orthopedic Foundation for Animals (OFA), last week.

  St Bernard             47.4%
  New Foundland          31.9
  Bullmastiff            30.7
  Welsh Springer Spaniel 28.8
  Bloodhound             26.2
  Portuguese Water Dog   26.2
  Chesapeake Bay Retr    25.5
  English Setter         24.3
  Norwegian Elkhound     23.9
  Golden Retriever       23.8
  Gordon Setter          23.7
  Chow Chow              23.3
  Old English Sheepdog   23.0
  Rottweiler             22.8
  Mastiff                21.2
  German Shepherd        20.7
  Brittany               20.1
  Curley Coated Retriev  20.1
  English Springer Span  19.5
  Irish Water Spaniel    19.2
  Black & Tan Coonhound  18.8
  Border Collie          16.9
  Poodle                 16.5
  Boxer                  15.9
  Shih Tzu               15.8
  Labrador Retriever     14.8
  Irish Setter           14.6
  Airedale Terrier       14.6
  Alaskan Malamute       13.7
  Great Dane             13.5
  Samoyed                13.3
  Weimaraner             12.0
  American Water Spaniel 11.8
  Standard Schnauzer     11.4
  Great Pyrenees         10.4
  Vizsla                 10.4
  German Whair Pointer   10.2
  English Pointer         9.5
  Wirehaired Poin Griffon 9.5
  Cocker Spaniel          9.4
  Lhaso Apso              8.1
  Australian shepherd     8.0
  Doberman Pinscher       7.9
  Keeshond                7.8
  German Shorthair Ptr    7.6
  English Cocker Spaniel  6.3
  Dalmatian               6.2
  Afghan Hound            5.5
  Irish Wolfhound         5.4
  Flat Coated Retriever   4.4
  Collie                  4.3
  Border Terrier          3.8
  Siberian Husky          2.9
  Belgian Sheepdog        2.6
  Borzoi                  0.9


   Good Luck


    Dennis Guldan
    Bird Dog News
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: carruth@mksol.dseg.ti.com (matthew carruth)
Subject: Sick dog questions
Organization: internet
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:26:42 GMT

My SO and I returned home last night from an Labor Day weekend trip.  One of our dogs
began acting strangly.  He seemed normal when greeting us at the door, but then
hid under the bed.  He does spend time there, normaly, but in this case he would not
come out w/o much coaxing (unusual), he had no appitite (unusual), and was 
lethargic (unusual).  There was some evidence of vomiting, but it could have been
the other dog, who has a sensitive stomach and does do this sometimes.  We took him
to the emergency clinic, it was midnight.  The vet said that he could not find 
anything  life-threatening.  He noticed a tight abdominal area (stress?) and gave
him an antibotic and a gastic soother (both shots).  He noticed the dog
had greenish stools.  He said that the dog might have eaten something that 
disagreed with him.  Upon returning home, he deficated and I noticed the stool
was greenish and not well formed.  It also contained a kernal of undigested dried
corn.  We have an enclosed patio where a cat lives.  There is a supply of dried
corn on the patio for feeding semi-wild ducks and cat food for the cat.  
The dog sitter could have let him onto the patio.  In this case, the dog could have
eaten a lot of cat food and, perhaps, some of the corn as well.  This dog also
has a cat stool affinity.  There is a litter box on the patio, as well.  Could
comsumption of cat food/stools and/or dried corn kernals caused his problem? Could
it be somthing else?
Keywords: 


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From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Autoimmune Anemia
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:03:20 GMT
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

<16861174B.REBECCA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Followup-To: 
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH
Keywords: 

To add to Rebbeca's experience with Autoimmune Hemolytic Anemia (AIHA), I
lost Mary Alice, a 2-year old spayed Newfy bitch, to this disease. She had
an acute (sudden onset) appearance of the symptoms (pale gums & blood
in urine and feces, general weakness), quite literally overnight. The
specialists were unable to reverse the disease with various chemotherapies,
although she stabilzed for about 4 weeks. Higher doses of steriods had
virtually no affect on the disease, although the drugs made her uncomfortable
and very cranky (not a normal Newfy attitude at all). One day she was too weak
to stand, and the vet said that only a total blood replacement would save
her... and then only for a few days until the next transfusion would be
needed. So we euthanized her, while she lay with her head in my lap. 

The prognosis for this disease is generally poor, with 50% of the animals
living beyond 12 months. Those experts that I have spoken to say that
complete reversal of this disease within 2-3 weeks of starting therapy is a 
good sign that the dog will survive for an extended period. 

Marget Johnson, Windwagon Newfoundlands, Tipp City, OH
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From: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Show (Match) Brags
Keywords: Show Brags
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:03:44 GMT
Reply-To: mjohnson@stake.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Marget Johnson)
Distribution: na
Organization: Stakeholder Relations, NCR Corp in Dayton,OH

Congratulations, Don, on your great wins! This must be one super nice puppy!
And although Peggy Helming isn't a breeder of Norfolks, as you pointed out,
she is the most successful breeder of top quality Newfoundlands in the U.S.,
and has been for 15 years. Peg will soon apply for her judging license
(probably not terriers at first, though). The Newf fancy is really looking
forward to having a QUALIFIED breeder judge! Did I say that Peggy is a friend
of mine? Could you tell? :-)
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Marget Johnson
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From: smp@aquarius1.Berkeley.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: RE: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:57:12 GMT
Reply-To: smp@aquarius1.Berkeley.EDU

|> 	OH Has anyone out there had a portrait taken with their dog?  I
|> don't mean the Santa and doggie picture but a real studio-serious picture.
|> A friend of mine did once-I thought it was sorta weird at the time but I'm
|> considering it for our first professional portrait. Oh yea- I mean dogs
|> that are pets only- not the show dogs etc where I can see a need.
|> Beverly
|> Wash Univ. Med School, St. Louis, MO

We had an artist paint our dog's portrait.  I always wanted an original from
this artist and couldn't think of a better subject than our spoiled Bernese
Mountain Dog, Toby.  It turned out really nice and now Toby will forever hang
on the wall in a prominent place.
Sue Painter
Minnesota
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: casey@well.sf.ca.us (Kathleen Creighton)
Subject: Re: Dobe puppy horror story (so far) (longish)
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 01:52:23 GMT


What a bummer.  But those other families can fend for themselves--the
*first* thing you do with a new puppy is take it to the vet.  And this
is a great example of why.
-- 
Kathleen Creighton
casey@well.sf.ca.us
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From: kathrynw@radian.UUCP (Kathryn Whitworth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Greyhounds as watchdogs?
Date: 15 Sep 92 18:30:42 GMT


Maybe this has been addressed while I was away:

What kind of watchdogs do greyhounds (retired racers) make?  I'm not
talking about aggression; I'm more interested in barking* at people
at the door or in the yard, and not fawning over strangers.  Aloof is
just fine.  (The dog, of course, not me -- I lose my voice if I growl
or bark too much.)

I realize temperaments vary widely, and what is true for one may not be
true for another, but are there any trends?

Thanks,

Kathryn Roth Whitworth
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson)
Subject: Re: Irish Setter Defense (was Re: Setter questions)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:57:38 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

WHAT?? Somebody's been trashing Irish setters?? 

*SOME* Irish Setters happen to be perfect dogs with perfect temperaments.
Some of my best friends are Irish setters! (OK, just one.)

- Laura "Not Biased at All" Johnson

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: alpha--who me?
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 22:04:09 GMT

I've been watching the responses to my original post about how in my dog's
mind she will always be alpha (and has been since a puppy) with much amusement.
Most of the responses have been along the lines that if she thinks she's
alpha, then she is alpha.  Maybe that's true, but I'm just not so sure.
She's had enough obedience training and alpha rolls to know that she just
has to do what we say.  But that doesn't mean in her mind that she thinks
that it's the way the world should be. 

For instance, she hates to get her nails clipped.  This used to mean a
significant fight.  After I got onto the scene with my experience with
dogs, she was in for a change.  After years of alpha rolls and training
she will on sight of the clippers roll over on her back to allow us to
clip while snarling and growling the whole time we are clipping.  When
I'm done, she jumps up and barks and barks, as if to scold me.  I ignore
this. She's let me do what I want.  She just doesn't think that this is
the way the world should be structured--with me being alpha. 

Another situation that makes me think that she will be alpha dog in her
own mind forever while still allowing me alpha position in reality is
when she is suddenly awoken.  She hates to be suprised when she is asleep.
If I inadvertantly wake her up she roars into a reactionary fury that lasts
about five seconds.  Then she realizes that it's me, grumbles a little,
and starts apologizing.  This five seconds is much longer if it is very
dark and she assumes I'm a random person/critter.

She's been through enough confrontations that resulted in alpha rolls--
at least once every two weeks when I first came into her life--that she
got so that she would roll into alpha position and wag her tail 
apologetically after one of these battle of wills.

She'll do just about anything we require of her, but when she really 
doesn't like it she'll launch into a long winded speech (she just loves
to bark) about the situation.  We ignore this.  If she does what we 
want, she can express her opinion any way she wants.  It would seem
a little cruel to dominate that out of her--it's so much a part of
her spirit.

So maybe she is alpha dog.  Maybe she just thinks she is.  You be the
judge.   But she's just Rose to us. 
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From: bws20@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: 6 mo. old GSD vs. my 4 yo daughter - HELP
Summary: one nit to pick
Date: 5 Sep 92 23:45:39 GMT
Reply-To: bws20@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Brian W Simmons)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

An incongruity about use of a crate (apologies if this has been discussed
already, I am a few days behind on this group).

Terry Hull responded to john Caruso's inquiry for help with his
daughter-dominating GSD.  Good stuff deleted, then:


JC]     Other than that he's a great dog. Took to the crate in about
JC]     4 hours and has never messed in it. Only 2 accidents in the
JC]     house. Craves affection and companionship. The first day
JC]     training with the long lead was frustrating - I couldn't
JC]     fool him!

TH]Now for something very practical that you can do immediately.  When
TH]the dog is around your daughter, make sure there is an adult there to
TH]monitor the situation and handle the dog.  I would not allow the dog
TH]to put his mouth on my daughter.  If he does this, I would scruff
TH]shake him and/or alpha roll him and take him out of the situation.
TH]Effectively, I would tell him that if he does not play nice, he can't
TH]play at all.  Putting him in his crate for a while seems like a good
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TH]possibility.  I would work with the dog away from the girl as much as
TH]possible.  You need to establish control before you try to control him
TH]around the child.  Also, I would be very careful with the cuffing
TH]under the chin.  If this pup is really dominant, it will not do much
TH]good and in fact may encourage the dog to fight you.  I find a slap or
TH]bump under the chin of my Rottweilers to be VERY ineffective at
TH]defusing a confrontation.

Hmmm, this seems to me to be using the crate as a punishment, If I
understand this correctly.  I have always thought this was the last thing
one would want to do with a crate.

[more good stuff deleted]
--
]Terry Hull  -  terry@eece.ksu.edu

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From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Hello again to r.p.d's!
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:09:14 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

Before I begin much posting, I just wanted to say "Hi! :)" to anybody who
remembers me from about 1/2 a year ago...and to everyone who's joined
r.p.d.'s since then. I lost access to the net quite suddenly and didn't
even get a chance to say goodbye :( but I'm back, at least for the time
being!

I still have my puglet, Monty who is now about 3.5 and also my Dobie, Dante
who is about a month younger. Dante was neutered this past month, finally
talked myself into it and I have been pleased with the results! The main
reason I had it done was that although he had never been bred, all he
wanted to do upon meeting a new dog was mount it. No amount of training
could stop this behaviour, it was embarassing and frustrating. Since the
surgery he has not tried this at all and he now can play nicely when I run
into friendly dogs at the park, it's SO wonderful! Other side benifits is
less frequent leg lifting (he tends to do it mostly in one place now) and
no more whining on long downs and stuff when other dogs are around, maybe
now I can really start showing him in obedience...of course I STILL don't
have my driver's licence, so don't hold your breath :)



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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs,rec.pets.cats
From: phz@cadence.com (Pete Zakel)
Subject: Re: Introducing Cats and Dogs
Organization: Cadence Design Systems
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:55:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.224122.10683@sura.net> nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn) writes:
>With all this seeming domestic tranquility, I would *die* if I ever came
>home to the scene another poster described.  Fortunately, I don't think
>it's likely.  They are all really quite fond of each other, they don't
>just tolerate each other's existence.

We have a border collie mix (Crasher) and a siberian husky (Wolf) that *love*
cats -- not for supper, but as great animals to associate with.  Both grew
up with cats (which seems to be the best way to teach a dog that a cat is a
friend, not supper) and both are quite miffed that our cats don't want anything
to do with them (the dogs were my wife's before marriage and the cats were
mine).

Now we have a new kitten (I think part Birman -- Siamese coloring with white
chest and mouth and toes, and polydactyl, too!).  The older cats, Oolong and
Ghost, have now become used to Frosty, the kitten (actually, Ghost *loves*
the kitty -- the older ones are both over 8 years old, but Ghost just loves
playing with the kitten -- which is a good development because Ghost tends
to be jealous and he spent the first 1.5 weeks snarling at the kitty with
the meanest cat look you can imagine).

Unfortunately, Frosty isn't real enamored of the dogs either (although I think
he's mostly scared), but he seems curious enough about them that I'm hoping to
teach him that the dogs can be quite fun to play with.  Both Wolf and Crasher
are *utterly* trustworthy around cats.  I remember when my step-daughter's
cat, Linus, used to live with the dogs and Wolf and Linus were absolute best
friends.  Linus would fight with Wolf's head, and Wolf just *loved* it.  Once
Linus caught a claw in Wolf's lower eyelid, and Wolf just held perfectly still
while Linus kept pulling and jerking until she got her claw free!  I once saw
Linus playing with Wolf's right ear with the front paws, with his left ear
with the back paws, with her body ENTIRELY in Wolf's jaws.  Wolf just had the
stupidest happy grin and thought this was the most fun in the world.  I had
absolutely NO fear for Linus's safety as Wolf would no sooner hurt a cat than
he would turn down a dog biscuit.

Since I'll be off next week, I'm planning on spending at least one hour a day
trying to teach Frosty to like Wolf and Crasher.  Wish me luck!

-Pete Zakel
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Miksch's Law:
	If a string has one end, then it has another end.
From:  sandy@firsof.ice.msk.su (Alexander V. Komarov)
Subject: Potential sponsors and experts: at the first time in Russia a show-exhibition of dogs breed Mastino - "MASTINO-92"
Keywords: dog
Reply-To: sandy@firsof.ice.msk.su
Organization: Brokerage Firm 261 Firsoff
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 14:54:00 +0400 

                         Dear Sir and Madam:
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

     A firm "Mastino Ltd., Inc." together with companies "UNAS" and "Krona",
organizes 3-4 october 1992, at the first time in Russia, a show-exhibition
of dogs breed Mastino - "Mastino-92". We invite to the cooperation all
people concirned.

     Potential sponsors and experts are kindly wellcome to contact as.

     An expert will be provided with a two-ways air-tickets, lodging at one
of the best Moscow hotels, meals and social program.

     Please, send your proposals to the organizing Committee of the
Exhibition.

         All The Best.

         Irina M. Malashenko
         General director of firm "Mastino"
         Tel: (095) 436-58-28; fax: (095) 436-58-29
___________________________________________

Address: Irina M. Malashenko
         Akademia Narodnogo Hozjaystva Rossii,
         Prospekt Vernadskogo 82, Moscow,
         Russia.
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From: loftis@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Loftis)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:28:22 GMT
Subject: Re: miniature greyhounds
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs


|There are now several rescue organizations for placing retired 
|racing Greyhounds, but I have not heard about a rescue organization 
|for retired racing Whippets......perhaps someone in one of the states 
|where they race dogs knows of an organization like this.


	There are organizations in California that do rescue Whippets
from the pound and place ex-show dogs (I haven't seen any ex-racers go
through the program).  One of the clubs that I belong to spend a great
deal of money on placing Whippets into homes (NCWFA - Northern California
Fanciers Association).  I would have to guess that we are spending a
minimum of $500/month on this program.  One funny thing about his
program is that it does not have enough dogs to give to all the people
who want them.  There have been times that club has placed Lurchers into
peoples' homes.

	Kirk
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog in Heat, Any suggestions
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:12:56 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Beverly Novak writes:

>I have a 8 month old female dog who is going into heat.  I bought one of
>those sanitary straps for her, but she chewed it off.  I have also tried
>mens underware, but she got those off too.  She is an out side dog, so I
>don't really want to lock her up in the garage.  Can any one give me
>some suggestions on how to preventer her from getting pregnant?  I want
>to bread her when she is 2 years old.

PLEASE lock her up in the garage, or in the laundry room or in her crate!
Even if you find a way to prevent HER from removing her undies, you can't
do a thing about the male dog that decides to jump the fence to get to her,
and he's not going to be stoped for long by a bit of cloth, dogs can be
very resourceful! :) Those sanitary straps, by the way, are NOT intended to
prevent pregnancy, but to keep an indoor dog from bleeding all over the
carpets.

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