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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:09:40 GMT
	<li73v1INN50e@news.bbn.com> <BZS.92Dec14224630@world.std.com>
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Amen! Amen!
If you want to go to, say, The Paradise in Boston, and go home to
Cambridge on the MBTA, you have to leave by 11:30. Sometimes opening
acts don't go on until midnight! This means you either have to 
  a) pay $12 for a taxi or b) drive.
It's much worse out in the more rural parts of the state. Most bars are
"roadhouses" and only accessible by car!
  We're not going to curb drinking and driving until we make it
possible for people to  go out without driving. I'm glad to see that
"designated drivers" have become a social norm, but that only reaches
the RESPONSIBLE people. 
  The MBTA ought to stay open until an hour after closing time. Hell,
it ought to run all night, like trains in bigger cities do. In
Chicago, which is admittedly MUCH bigger, certain routes are "Night
Own" routes and run all night. Most major points are connected.
  And, maybe rural bars ought to get together and run a shuttle
service. Just a couple of connecting loops. I bet you could run an
hour's worth of bus service for a YEAR, ($5000 maybe?) for the
cost of handling  one nasty road accident. 
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From: spike@world.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: Software Tool & Die
	<BZS.92Dec16210528@world.std.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:27:12 GMT

In the referenced article bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
<The main thing that makes Boston appear "safe" is the stunningly
<efficient segregation of neighborhoods and social classes. There's
<little doubt that if your main experience with the MBTA is the green
<line between Park and Cleveland Circle (etc) that you'd think it's
<kinda safe and unthreatening (I'm obviously making some assumptions
<about the readers here.)

	Again this make some assumptions about the reader; but I have
never been on a part of the T the struck me as dangerous.  Now if you
would be freaked out by being the only non-black on the train you
might want to stay off the Mattapan "high speed" (ha!) line, but I'd
say that line is as safe as any other.

	The only trouble I've every had on the T, and I've been all
over it, was with high school students on the Green line.  I must note
I do not have "target" written all over me, more like "don't f*** with
me", but I've never seen anyone else having a problem ether.

->Spike
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From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
	<BzBv8I.8xp@world.std.com> <1992Dec16.170815.19167@burrhus.harvard.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:03:56 GMT


From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
>Absolutely true. It *also* isn't a valid argument gainst striking down such
>laws. There are valid societal reasons for outlawing murder ( I trust you
>don't need a list ) that do not apply to something outlawed for *purely*
>religious reasons, like being open on Sunday

BUT that's the whole point, it may not be for PURELY religious reasons.

Oh, the choice of Sunday may have been for PURELY religious reasons
originally, but that doesn't negate the fact that it may still be a
valid idea, religion or no.

The state just wants to get rid of Sunday blue laws so they can enable
all the parking meters and other traffic laws on Sundays and up the
ticket revenues.

Who, me cynical?

-- 
        -Barry Shein

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From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:43:36 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>>The bottom line is that it isn't because "they" (the infamous "they" :-)
>>aren't trying to restrict the "number of days of doing business" ... but
>>are enforcing laws enacted based on beliefs of the Puritans 200 years ago.
>
>There's no doubt they derive from what you describe, but isn't it
>possible that for other, secular reasons they turn out to be practical
>to keep?
>
>I mean, hey, the bible says thou shalt not kill, but I'm not sure we
>should legalize murder just for the sake of separation of church and
>state...!
This has to be the single worst argument I've seen in years
Do you really think that allowing (not mandating, allowing) stores to stay
open on Sunday is comprable to allowing murder?

-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
Newsgroups: ne.general
From: tonym@world.std.com (Tony Matt)
Subject: Re: Looking for mantles
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:29:07 GMT

In article <1gnk8dINN4ml@transfer.stratus.com> kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.170850.11483@news.media.mit.edu> kanarick@media.mit.edu  
>(Craig M. Kanarick) writes:
>> 
>> Does anyone have any recommendations on where I can buy fireplace mantles?  
>
>Olde Bostonian in Dorchester has LOTS of good stuff; mantles, doors

Restoration Resources on Needham Street in Newton Highlands may also be 
a good source for this.

Tony Matt    tonym@world.std.com


Newsgroups: ne.general
From: bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein)
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Organization: The World
	<BZS.92Dec5144940@world.std.com> <SPIKE.92Dec8140009@world.std.com>
	<7500@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>
	<1992Dec10.032534.11392@unixland.natick.ma.us>
	<BZS.92Dec14230025@world.std.com>
	<1992Dec16.045436.22951@unixland.natick.ma.us>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:56:58 GMT


From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
>bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
>
>>There's no doubt they derive from what you describe, but isn't it
>>possible that for other, secular reasons they turn out to be practical
>>to keep?
>
>Like what for example?

Hey, pay attention, we went over this earlier! Like so the whole
family gets one day off per week to see each other.

Maybe that's what this all is, revenge of the DINKs! (Dual-Income, No
Kids.)

[don't take offense, I guess I'm a DINK also]

>>I mean, hey, the bible says thou shalt not kill, but I'm not sure we
>>should legalize murder just for the sake of separation of church and
>>state...!
>
>Come on now! :-)    murder=buying alchol??    :-)

That wasn't the point Mr Heiser, you are not paying attention, see me
after class.


-- 
        -Barry Shein

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From: dfinkel@cs.wpi.edu (David Finkel)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: W. MA art museum info wanted
Date: 17 Dec 1992 13:32:28 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA USA
Distribution: ne
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In article <BzDs6J.DD6@world.std.com>, jfc@world.std.com (Jonathan F Carpenter) writes:
|> bsmith@osf.org () writes:
|> 
|> >I have heard there is a wonderful, perhaps small, art museum in western
|> >Massachusetts. Williamstown? Anyone have a clue? I just can't remember any
|> >more than that.
|> 
|> The Sterling and Francine Clark Art Institute is located in Williamstown.
|> It has many paintings by well-known authors such as Renoir, Degas, Gaugin,
|> and Winslow Homer.
|> 

The Sunday Boston Globe recently (12/13 or 12/6) had an extended
article in the travel section on visiting art museums in New England.
It focused on where to see Impressionist paintings, but it includes
lots of information about lesser-known museums, including the Clark
in Williamstown, the Worcester Art Museum, and the Atheneum in
Hartford, among others.

-- 
David Finkel
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Worcester Polytechnic Institute	       Telephone:  (508) 831-5416
Worcester, MA 01609 USA		       FAX:        (508) 831-5776
From: borden@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Dave Borden)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Drinking and the MBTA was Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:31:35 GMT
Reply-To: borden@m5.harvard.edu
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

In article <BZS.92Dec15212827@world.std.com> bzs@world.std.com (Barry Shein) writes:
>
>From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
>>  The MBTA ought to stay open until an hour after closing time. Hell,
>>it ought to run all night, like trains in bigger cities do.
>
>You mean like trains in REAL cities, heh heh.
>
>It's funny, saying "they oughta run all night" sounds like this HUGE
>proposition, a major expansion in service.

What this city should do is allow private bus lines to run at night, and in
my opinion, in the daytime as well.  Why should the MBTA have a monopoly on
mass transit?

  - Dave Borden
    borden@m5.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:17:03 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Dec10.164337.485@m5.harvard.edu> borden@m5.harvard.edu writes:
>In article <BETSYS.92Dec10024939@ra.cs.umb.edu> betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz) writes:
>
>>   I don't beleive that an employee of Joe's diner or the corner donut
>>shoppe can use these labor boards. If they can, the boss doesn't know
>>it and the employees don't know it. I think these rules are good only
>>for big and/or unionized shops.
>
>A subtle observation.  In general, the "labor" establishment protects only
>that minority of workers who are unionized and able to lobby for their own
>interests; these are mainly skilled workers who are generally capable of
>making a pretty good living with or without the protection of the union.
>The effect of the union is often to increase their pay at the expense of
>less skilled, non-unionized workers, and the consumer.

The State Labor Board has nothing to do with unions.

Example:

A small company convinces hourly workers to work overtime for a straight
hourly wage with the promise that it will make up the owed 1/2 time at a
later date.  The later date arrives and passes, and no money is paid out.
One disgruntled worker calls the State Labor Board.  They come in and
seize all the company's payroll records for the last 3 years, and force
the company to pay or the state will take them to court.

This actually happened at a company where I worked.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: dan@kronos.com (Dan Driscoll)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Logan Airport Parking Garage
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:36:38 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Kronos Inc. / Waltham, MA
Disclaimer: This posting is a personal opinion and not that of Kronos Inc.

In article <1992Dec14.223718.29567@athena.mit.edu> mondol@mtl.mit.edu (mark k. mondol) writes:
[about the cameras at the exit booths]

I don't know about the database theory, but I do know that cameras are 
sometimes used for, like, security reasons, as in the case of a robbery, 
or when someone decides to screw without paying and takes the wooden gate 
with them.
[inhale]
-dan@kronos.com
From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Sunday Liquor Sales
Date: 16 Dec 1992 16:50:37 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <1992Dec16.044847.22547@unixland.natick.ma.us>, bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
 
|> I agree completely on this.  However the flip side:  Would you *really*
|> dare ride the subway at 3am?  How about other cities?  How late does the
|> subway run in Manhatten?  Woudl you dare ride it at 3am?

The subway runs nonstop, all night, in Manhattan (and the other
New York boroughs).  People really do ride it.  If they didn't,
it wouldn't be running.

Chicago also has "night owl" service on at least some subway lines.
(Although the frequency can be as low as once an hour.)

I'd ride it at 3am instead of driving, if it was available.

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
From: mjc@fusion.genrad.com (Michele J. Chabot)
Newsgroups: ne.seminars
Subject: ACM Greater Boston SIGPLAN January Meeting
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:15:24 -0500
Organization: GenRad, Inc.
Distribution: ne
NNTP-Posting-Host: fusion.genrad.com

	   ACM Greater Boston Chapter SIGPLAN
		Tuesday, January 12, 1993
			8 P.M.

		Intermetrics Atrium
		733 Concord Ave., Cambridge

    Developing Adaptive Software with the Demeter Method

		  Karl J. Lieberherr
	       Northeastern University, Boston

In today's competitive business environment, companies must be able to
react to market changes quickly. The speed of reaction is often
directly related to how rapidly they can change their software.  For
this purpose, the Demeter Method promotes the development of 
adaptive software.  Adaptive means that the software adapts itself to
a very interesting class of requirements changes.  Adaptive software
is in general more flexible than traditional software.  The ability to
support the development of adaptive software is the feature which
distinguishes the Demeter Method from all other oo methods.

Adaptive software is a natural evolution of oo software since every
object-oriented program is essentially an adaptive program.  Although
object-oriented programs are easier to reuse than programs which are
not written in an object-oriented style, oo programs are still very
rigid and hard to evolve. Experience shows that for most application
domains, object-oriented programs can be made significantly more
general and extensible by expressing them as adaptive programs.

The talk will present the important ideas behind adaptive software and
will outline how adaptive software has been used successfully within a
project at Citibank.




ACM Greater Boston Chapter SIGPLAN

Dear Colleage,

Our January speaker Karl J. Lieberherr is a Professor in the College
of Computer Science at Northeastern University and Director of the
Center for Software Sciences.  His current research interests are in
object-oriented software engineering.  His research group is
developing the Demeter System, consisting of the Method and the Tools,
to facilitate software development by introducing novel high-level
abstractions.  His earlier research interests include design
automation for VLSI (he is the principal designer of the hardware
description language Zeus), analysis of algorithms (he is the
codeveloper of the concept of P-optimal approximation algorithms for
combinatorial optimization problems) and public-key cryptography.
Professor Lieberherr got his Ph.D. from ETH Zurich, Switzerland, he
served on the faculty of Princeton University and ETH Zurich and the
staff of GTE Laboratories, Waltham, Ma. He can be reached at
lieber@ccs.northeastern.EDU.

We will be meeting for dinner at Joyce Chen's restaurant, 390 Rindge
Ave., Cambridge at 6:00 p.m. before the meeting.  If you wish to come,
please call "Sigplan dinner" at Intermetrics (661-1840) as early as
possible so we can make the appropriate dinner reservation.

Peter Mager
Chairperson, Greater Boston SIGPLAN

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From: gene@cs.bu.edu (Gene Itkis)
Newsgroups: ne.seminars
Subject: Re: Boston Combined Schedule
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:35:38 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: gene@cs


There was a mistake about the date of the following seminar:

In article <104786@bu.edu> dme@cs.bu.edu (David Evans) writes:

>  Mon 14 Dec  2:00 pm
   ^^^^^^^^^^
>MIT Building NE43, Rm 518, 545 Technology Square, Cambridge (On Main Street
>near intersection of Albany Street, @ Polaroid Building) Refreshments at 1.45.
>Speaker: Kathy Yelick, University of California, Berkeley
>"Programming Irregular Applications on Distributed Memory Multiprocessors"
>Host: MIT Practice of Computation Seminar and John Guttag
>For Info: <alr@anne.lcs.mit.edu> Anne Rubin

The actual date is Tuesday December 15. Below is the abstract of for the talk:


P O C S    S E M I N A R


DATE:  TUESDAY, DECEMBER 15, 1992

TIME:  REFRESHMENTS AT 1:45 
TALK AT 2:00

PLACE:  NE43-518



Programming Irregular Applications on
Distributed Memory Multiprocessors

Kathy Yelick
University of California, Berkeley


The difficulty of parallelizing a given program is
strongly correlated to the degree of irregularity in
the program's structures.  Most of the applications 
that have been parallelized successfully on large scale 
multiprocessors are those with a high degree of regularity.
The goal of our research is to provide languages and libraries
that will simplify parallel programming for irregular applications,
and consequently increase the class of applications that can be
effectively parallelized.  We have approached this problem by
implementing irregular applications on a CM5 multiprocessor, while
at the same time developing layers of system level software to
provide a common base for the applications.  

In this talk we describe two irregular applications: the Grobner
basis computation and an event-based circuit simulator.  Both
perform well on the CM5, beating the speedups obtained previously
on both shared and distributed memory machines.  We identify common
features of these applications and others, and describe language and
library support currently under development.  The implementations
are organized around a set of nondeterministic "transition-axioms"
that access local and distributed data structures.  The system support
includes a distributed object library called Multipol and scheduling
for multiple levels of threading among the transitions.  We conclude
with a discussion of how this work fits into a larger collaborative
effort to build an integrated software environment for distributed
memory multiprocessors.)


HOST:  John Guttag



-- 
 ---
	Gene Itkis		(gene@cs.bu.edu)
From: gene@cs.bu.edu (Gene Itkis)
Newsgroups: ne.seminars
Subject: Re: Boston Combined Schedule
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:11:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: gene@cs

Newsgroups: ne.seminars
Subject: Another CORRECTION for Kathy Yelick's talk (was Re: Boston Combined Schedule)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
From: gene@cs.bu.edu (Gene Itkis) 

There is another change, this time of room:

= P O C S    S E M I N A R
= 
= Programming Irregular Applications on
= Distributed Memory Multiprocessors
= 
= Kathy Yelick
= University of California, Berkeley
= 
= DATE:  TUESDAY, DECEMBER 15, 1992
= 
= TIME:  REFRESHMENTS AT 1:45 
= TALK AT 2:00
= 
= PLACE:  NE43-518
	       ^^^

This has being changed to the 6th floor playroom (instead of room 518).

Sorry for the confusion.
-- 
 ---
	Gene Itkis		(gene@cs.bu.edu)
From: dme@cs.bu.edu (David Evans)
Newsgroups: ne.seminars
Subject: Boston Combined Schedule
Date: 13 Dec 92 17:13:55 GMT

Notices for meetings and lectures within the next 14 days
Events recently publicized are excluded.
We have no other information about these events; some, however,
have a phone number or address for additional details or confirmation.

  Mon 14 Dec  2:00 pm
MIT Building NE43, Rm 518, 545 Technology Square, Cambridge (On Main Street
near intersection of Albany Street, @ Polaroid Building) Refreshments at 1.45.
Speaker: Kathy Yelick, University of California, Berkeley
"Programming Irregular Applications on Distributed Memory Multiprocessors"
Host: MIT Practice of Computation Seminar and John Guttag
For Info: <alr@anne.lcs.mit.edu> Anne Rubin

  Mon 14 Dec  4:00 pm
Room 101, Aiken Computation Laboratory, between Harvard Law School and Peabody
Museum, off Oxford Street, Cambridge. (Tea at 3.30 in Aiken Basement Lobby)
Speaker: S. Sairam, Brown University
"Parallel and Dynamic Approximation Schemes for Planar Shortest Paths"
Host: Harvard University CS Colloquium Series and Professor Victor J.
Milenkovic  For Info: Prof. Victor Milenkovic, or <menke@das.harvard.edu>
From: cher@ksr.com (Mike Cherepov)
Newsgroups: ne.politics
Subject: Re: State Socialism
Date: 19 Dec 92 14:03:59 EST
Organization: Kendall Square Research Corp.

In article <57653@dime.cs.umass.edu> yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
>Perhaps not. Unfortunately, I have been unable to get to the library
>to find the oxford history of the xUSSR, but I have not ceded this battle.

Better do it fast: the way the remnants of the ex-Soviet state sector
are crumbling, it's increasingly harder to claim that it ever worked
well.  I suppose, you can always blame that on their turning off that
proven Stalin/Khrushchev/Brezhnev true communist wealth-creating path.

But then there is China, whose economy has been growing at record rates
after tuning off that path 15 years ago.  How confusing this must be.
	Mike Cherepov
		gushing with sarcasm
From: yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken)
Newsgroups: ne.politics
Subject: Re: State Socialism
Keywords: for Mr. Yodaiken
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:12:42 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <19956@ksr.com> cher@ksr.com (Mike Cherepov) writes:
>From the indomitable Mr. Yodaiken:
>
>> Thanks, but I did ask for a "reputable historian", not for an opinion columnist
>> of the extreme right.
>
>In front of me is the dust jacket of the Modern Times with obligatory
>glowing praises to Johnson and his works from NYTBR, the WSJ, Foreign
>Affairs, Times Literary Supplement, the NY Times, the Economist,
>Christian Science monitor, etc.  I have read a couple of them, and
>the praise did not have to be taken out of context.  I take them
>to be better judges of historians and extremism than you.

Perhaps not. Unfortunately, I have been unable to get to the library
to find the oxford history of the xUSSR, but I have not ceded this battle.
Perhaps in a week or so, I'll be able to try, once again, to correct your
errors.
-- 


yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu
From: dweiss@tri.com (Dan Weiss)
Newsgroups: ne.wanted
Subject: Movie Poster for "Mambo Kings" WANTED
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:19:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Registry Inc.  Wellesley, MA  02181


I seem to remember someone offering a whole range of film posters
for sale here a few weeks (months?) ago.  Is that person still out
there?
     A friend of a friend is now looking for the poster for the
film "The Mambo Kings".  (I've never seen the movie myself (or the
poster, for that matter).)  Any suggestions on a store in the
Boston area with a wide selection of film posters?

                              Thanks,

                                   Dan

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