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From: balmer@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
Subject: Private to Alan Sheltra..
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:40:12 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland

The swiss e-mail gateway refuses mail to SysOp@zog.UUCP. I don't know why
but thats the reason why I abuse bandwidth....

To Alan Sheltra

Alan,

We would like to subscribe the OS-9 Underground magazine, but I was not
able to get in contact with you by e-mail.

Here's our address:

OS-9 International
Hagentalerstrasse 12
CH-4055 Basel, Switzerland

Regards,
Marc Balmer, balmer@ifi.unibas.ch

Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: bmaddox@cs.umr.edu (Brian Maddox)
Subject: Listserver
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:32:26 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Originator: bmaddox@mcs213i.cs.umr.edu

   I don't know if this got through the first time because I only saw the 
header and the sig, so here goes again.  I sent the mail to the address of
listserv@pucc.princeton.edu.  The filelist failed to come through, along with
anything else.  When I tried to get a help file, I did get an output of my
job but nothing else.
   Does anyone know what is happening?  Thanks.

-- 
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|"No matter where you go, there you are" | "Ah, come on Cap'n.  Lemme shoot   |
|  Buckaroo Banzai and USS Excelsior     |  the guns this time." - Lt Worf    |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: pczip@mips.nott.ac.uk (Ivan Powis)
Subject: GCC 1.42 - OSK Implementation
Reply-To: pczip@mips.nott.ac.uk (Ivan Powis)
Organization: Nottingham University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:34:51 GMT


I would appreciate some definitive information on the latest OS9 implementation
of GCC. I've obtained this from cabrales, and also the general (but rather 
older) documentation there. My questions are:

1/	What are the default paths used for searching for header files, and in
	what priority are they scanned?

2/	The same question as 1/ but about paths for finding libraries ?

3/	What environment variables exist to modify/extend these default paths ?

4/	Can default values for other command line options be set in some fashion
	(eg in the environment) to avoid having to type '-m68020 -m68881 ...'
	etc every time the gcc command is issued?

Finally, there has in the past been mention in this newsgroup of porting gdb to
os9. Is this work ongoing? Nearing completion? Aborted?

Thanks in advance for any information,

Ivan Powis
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: mokler@desert.in-berlin.de (Claudius Mokler)
Subject: WANTED : cross assembler on OS-9 / 68k
Organization: Private Site
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:33:40 GMT

I am looking for a OS-9/68k hosted cross assembler for the
Motorola 68HC16 and 6809 processors.
I have an old version of a useful assembler, made by a company
named 'LLOYD I/O', in Portland, Oregon.
Since this version is of 1987, I would like to know


- if they still exist
- if they do have a 68HC16 version of their assembler
- and, alternatively, if somebody else has one. Maybe in
free POSIX source ? We are running OS-9 V2.3 and V2.4 on
68k based machines

If somebody from Portland reads this, the address of LLOYD I/O
was (maybe still is ?)
19535 NE Glisan
Portland, Oregon 97230

Please e-mail to
mokler@desert.in-berlin.de
or snail-mail to
C. Mokler
c/o Koehne Elektronik und Datentechnik GmbH
Bundesallee 89
1000 Berlin 41
Germany / Europe

Thanks in advance !

Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: stp@bernina.ethz.ch (Stephan Paschedag)
Subject: Re: GCC 1.42 - OSK Implementation
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 09:32:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.103451.26927@cs.nott.ac.uk> pczip@mips.nott.ac.uk (Ivan Powis) writes:
>
>I would appreciate some definitive information on the latest OS9 implementation
>of GCC. I've obtained this from cabrales, and also the general (but rather 
>older) documentation there. My questions are:
>
>1/	What are the default paths used for searching for header files, and in
>	what priority are they scanned?
by default gcc searches /dd/defs and /h0/defs. if the environement GCCDEF is
set, this one is used. by specifying -I- on the commandline the default paths
can be suppressed.
>
>2/	The same question as 1/ but about paths for finding libraries ?
/dd/lib, /h0/lib, /dd/gnulib, /h0/gnulib or environnement GCCLIB
>
>3/	What environment variables exist to modify/extend these default paths ?
see above
>
>4/	Can default values for other command line options be set in some fashion
>	(eg in the environment) to avoid having to type '-m68020 -m68881 ...'
>	etc every time the gcc command is issued?
not yet implemented, but this is a good idea, maybe i'll implement it in the 
next release !
>
>Finally, there has in the past been mention in this newsgroup of porting gdb to
>os9. Is this work ongoing? Nearing completion? Aborted?
When my time allows it, I'm working on GCC 2.x, which should be soon available !

Stephan


==============================================================================
OS/2 & PS/2 : half an operating system for half a computer.

Stephan Paschedag                                         stp@ethz.UUCP
Bauernhalde 5, CH-8708 Maennedorf             ..!mcvax!cernvax!chx400!ethz!stp
or MPL AG, Zelgweg 12, CH-5405 Baden-Daettwil          stp@bernina.ethz.ch
______________________________________________________________________________

Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: zambotti@wpowz.wpo.dec.com (Walter Zambotti)
Subject: Re: Listserver
Keywords:  Listserv, pucc
Reply-To: zambotti@wpowz.wpo.dec.com (Walter Zambotti)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:16:14 GMT


In article <1992Dec3.003541.24287@umr.edu>, bmaddox@cs.umr.edu (Brian
Maddox) writes:
|>Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
|>Path:
|
tkou02.enet.dec.com!jrdzzz.jrd.dec.com!e2big.mko.dec.com!dbased.nuo.dec.
com!news.crl.dec.com!deccrl!caen!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!wupost!crcni
is1.unl.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!usenet-feed.cc.umr.edu!mcs213j.cs.umr.edu!bm
maddox
|>From: bmaddox@cs.umr.edu (Brian Maddox)
|>Subject: Listserver
|>Date: Thu, 3 Dec 92 08:35:41 WST
|>Nntp-Posting-Host: mcs213j.cs.umr.edu
|>Distribution: usa
|>Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
|>Keywords:  Listserv, pucc
|>Sender: cnews@umr.edu (UMR Usenet News Post)
|>Originator: bmaddox@mcs213j.cs.umr.edu
|>Message-ID: <1992Dec3.003541.24287@umr.edu>
|>Lines: 9
|>
|>   Does anyone know if the listserver has gone down.  It's been two
|>days and
|>I still haven't gotton the filelist for OS-9.  Thanks.
|>
|>
|>-- 
|>----------------------------------------------------------------------
|>----------
|>|"No matter where you go, there you are" | "Ah, come on Cap'n.  Lemme
|>shoot   |
|>|  Buckaroo Banzai and USS Excelsior     |  the guns this time." - Lt
|>Worf    |
|>----------------------------------------------------------------------
|>----------
|>

I too have been trying to get to the listserver for quite some time now with
no success.

Can you advertise what mail address you normally use to get through to the
listserver.  Here are the ones I have tried today all with bounce back :

"listserv%pucc.bitnet"@decwrl.dec.com.
"listserv%pucc.edu"@decwrl.dec.com.
"listserv%pucc.princeton.edu"@decwrl.dec.com.
"listserv%pucc.bitnet%pucc.princeton.edu"@decwrl.dec.com.
"listserv%pucc.bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu"@decwrl.dec.com.
"listserv@pucc.princeton.edu"@decwrl.dec.com.
"listsrv@pucc.princeton.edu"@decwrl.dec.com.

Here is the header of the last reply from the listserver that I received :

Date: Mon, 4 Feb 91 10:42:59 +0800
From: decwrl::LISTSERV%PUCC.BITNET@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (Revised List Processor (1.6e))
To: WPOWZ::zambotti
Subject: File: "OS9 FILELIST" being sent to you

*  OS9 FILELIST for LISTSERV@PUCC.
*
*  Tandy Color Computer Filelist OS-9 only Programs & Datafiles
*
From: mark@ginger.biophys.upenn.edu (Mark Elliott)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
Subject: Can't get OS-9 C to use procedures as variables!!!
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:36:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


	I have OS-9 v2.4 on a 68030 (MVME 147) machine. My "CC" module says
that it is Edition #40. The following code crashes (with BUS ERROR) when I run
it. On other Unix machines, it runs fine.

/****************************************************************************/
typedef struct
{
    int	(*subfunc)();
    int	x;
} teststruct;


main()
{
    teststruct	test;
    int		sayhello();
    
    test.x = 5;
    test.subfunc = *sayhello;
    
    test.subfunc(&test);	/*** <--- THIS IS WHERE OS-9 CRASHES ***/
    
    exit(0);
    
}

int sayhello(test)
teststruct  *test;
{
    printf("Hello. # = %1d\n", test->x);
}
/****************************************************************************/

	As this program does, I would like to assign a procedure to a variable 
and later call this procedure via the variable value. Does anyone know why this
fails?
	Thanks in advance.



Mark Elliott                       |     
Dept of Radiology                  |     Voice: (215) 898-9357
University of Pennsylvania         |     FAX  : (215) 573-2113
Philadelphia, PA 19104 USA         |     Email: mark@ginger.biophys.upenn.edu


Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
From: jejones@microware.com (James Jones)
Subject: Re: Can't get OS-9 C to use procedures as variables!!!
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 13:45:23 GMT

In article <101675@netnews.upenn.edu> mark@ginger.biophys.upenn.edu (Mark Elliott) writes:
>	I have OS-9 v2.4 on a 68030 (MVME 147) machine. My "CC" module says
>that it is Edition #40. The following code crashes (with BUS ERROR) when I run
>it. On other Unix machines, it runs fine.
>
>typedef struct
>{
>    int	(*subfunc)();
>    int	x;
>} teststruct;
>
>main()
>{
>    teststruct	test;
>    int		sayhello();
>    
>    test.x = 5;
>    test.subfunc = *sayhello;

[Remaining code omitted...]

Leaving the * off in the assignment above should make the program work.
A subtlety of the ANSI C standard makes it possible to throw in as many
asterisks as you'd like and still assign the address of sayhello, and
in fact the Ultra C compiler will cheerfully take

	test.subfunc = ******sayhello;

and do just that.  (You would, of course, have to include <stdio.h>
since you're using printf.)

	James Jones
From: kientzle@beirut.berkeley.edu (Tim Kientzle)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
Subject: Re: Need ideas on gpp problems
Date: 17 Dec 1992 17:25:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: beirut.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec4.150851.1@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com> magnuson@skyler.mavd.honeywell.com (Randy Magnuson) writes:
>I just downloaded gcc from cabrales and am having problems with gpp.
>gpp: Can't fork 'cc1plus'.Error #000:237  (E$NoRAM)  No RAM Available.
>According to mfree, I have about 1.5 Mb free RAM.  
>
Memory fragmentation.  I've found that besides the total amount of
free RAM, another relevant statistic is the largest block returned
by "mfree -e".  As someone pointed out, cc1plus is over 800k, so
unless you have an 800k block of free memory, any attempt to run
cc1plus will fail.  Sometimes rebooting and judiciously terminating
programs can give you a big block of contiguous memory.
     GNU software is infamous for their "infinite memory" assumption.

					- Tim Kientzle
From: balmer@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.os.os9
Subject: Marc Balmer & E-Mail...
Date: 13 Dec 92 15:22:37 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland

In article <1992Dec9.145238.20697@news.uni-stuttgart.de>, to3@ph3hp840.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Thomas Stuempfig) writes:
> In article <ByzpEL.4GM@dei.unipd.it> alien@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Emanuele Verza) writes:  
>>
>>> >	Is it possible to convert a os9 diskette to Pc-Msdos format?
>>> >
>>> Yes it is. You have to use the PCFM (PC-DOS File Manager). Microware sells
>>> one, I have one which I can give you for free and with complete source
>>> code. If you are interested, drop me a mail.
>>
>>Please send it to me! (Or tell me where I find it)
> 
> I was also not able to reach Marc Balmer via Mail and I'm also interested
> in the Filemanager. Perhaps it can be put to a file server (smilodon)?
> 
> Thomas Stuempfig
> 
> ==============================================================================
> Thomas Stuempfig             |  stuempfig@physik.uni-stuttgart.de
> Pikosekunden-Labor           |  to3@ph3hp840.physik.uni-stuttgart.de
> 3. Physikalisches Institut   |================================================
> Uni Stuttgart                |  ocac@ds0rus1i.bitnet
> ==============================================================================

Our stupid VAX with its very stupid software does not put the correct mail
address on mailings made by the news system. Here's my address:

balmer@ifi.unibas.ch

And I'm sorry to abuse bandwith for this...
From: dosburn@cwis.unomaha.edu (Don Osburn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Newbie questions: Linux vs 386BSD
Summary: Linux works & 386BSD doesn't on my machine
Keywords: 386BSD bootable education
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:00:23 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

I have been interested for some time now in installing a unix type
OS on my 386 pc, (a Tandon 386 Option).  I am primarily interested
in the educational value of experimenting with a project such as this,
and hope that perhaps I can even provide something useful someday. 
(Right now I am a graduate student with a heavy emphasis on the 
theoretical side, and not much on the applications side.  I am
attempting to rectify that situation.)  Since some other people in 
my department have already been involved in the 386BSD project, I 
naturally turned that direction first.  However, having attempted to
boot the 386BSD system repeatedly with no success, I decided to try
Linux.  The Linux system booted properly right off, and I am now making
arrangements to install the system probably over Xmas break.

I have downloaded the FAQ and quite a bit of other documentation which
I am in the process of reading, but some questions are remaining 
unanswered.  These questions relate primarily to the difference twixt
the 386BSD and Linux, and I was hoping that someone could fill in 
some of the blanks for me.

Question:  What is the major differences between the two systems?  Keep
in mind that I never got very far with the BSD, so I don't really know
what it has to offer.

Question:  I have looked through much of the Dr. Dobb's Journal at 
articles about the BSD, and felt rather....well.."warmed" by the fact
that so much information was freely available.  Is there an analogous
periodical output, (besides the nn news), relating to Linux?

Question:  I have been told that the Linux system does not offer all the
networking capabilities that 386BSD does.  Is this true, and if so what
work is being done on it?  I would be VERY interested in working on 
anything in this area, if this were indeed the case.

Finally,
Question:  Why did the Linux boot disk work properly, and the 386BSD did
not?  (Perhaps this would better be suited to the comp.unix.bsd group.)

Anyway, I am fairly confident that I am going to be installing this 
system sometime around the new year, unless someone gives me a REAL
good reason otherwise.  (My wife doesn't count, she's got her own 
computer.)  Thanks in advance for any help anyoned has to give.
From: dpn2@po.CWRU.Edu (Damien P. Neil)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: What's happening to my memory?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:57:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b63519.student.cwru.edu

First of all, thanks to all the people who responded to my question about 
running X with 4 megs RAM!

So far as I can tell, something is happening to a fair chunk of the memory 
on my machine when I run under Linux. I just tried to compile NetHack, and 
get out of memory errors...with a six meg swap partition active! Something 
is wrong here...

Is there a way that I can check how much available memory I have? The Linux 
equivilent of DOS mem?

Anyone have any idea on where my memory is going? I'm using the latest SLS 
distribution.

Thanks again!
-----
Damien Neil   dpn2@po.cwru.edu    "Until somebody debugs reality, the best
Case Western Reserve University    I can do is a quick patch here and there."
CMPS/EEAP double majoring masochist               - Erik Green
From: varney@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bruce Varney)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: X on an et4000
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:29:36 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Does anyone out there have X running on an Orchid Prodesigner IIs?
If so, I would appreciate it if you could mail me your Xconfig file.
					  ^^^^

	Thanx
		Bruce
From: sseiden@aster.ics.uci.edu (Steven Samuel Jr. Seiden)
Subject: BUG: xxgdb hangs X11
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:31:24 GMT

I'm using the SLS .98.5 distribution, pretty much as is,
(got olvwm though) and I've had problems with xxgdb.
My config is:

33Mhz 386 w/ Cyrix Cop.
12 Meg Ram - No swap
80 meg HD

I'll be running xxgdb, when all of the sudden the
screen switches back into text mode. The cursor is
in the lower left hand corner. Other than this, the
screen is blank. Nothing I type appears on the screen,
although the disk whirls when I type sync. I haven't had
this problem when I wasn't running xxgdb, so I'm pretty
sure that xxgdb is at fault (although not completely).
My solution has been to stop using xxgdb. I've never
had this problem running plain gdb. Anyone else had this
problem? Any suggestions?


--
Steve Seiden                                     Information & Computer Science
sseiden@ics.uci.edu                            University of California, Irvine
                        Just say No to MS-DOS
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
Subject: Re: ZModem comm: rz and sz (from CKermit)
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:07:36 GMT

In article <1gg4mgINN52a@gap.caltech.edu> nyet@cco.caltech.edu (n liu) writes:
>wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni) writes:
>
>>OK, I am a moron. But do you folks know how to  run rz/sz from Kermit?
>>The OS/2 Ckermit+M2ZModem can send/receive files in cooperation with
>>my school's sparc. When I use Linux+kermit+(rz,sz), things just don't
>>work. I know I must forget something or do something wrong. So please
>>enlighten me with your experience. Thanks alot.
>
>Make sure you have the hacked rz/sz that allows you to send its
>stuff/recieve to/from a /dev other than tty via environment var (should
>be on tsx).
>
>then if you do a
>remote% sz foo.bar
>ctrl \-c
>C-Kermit>!rz
>everything should work ok.

I know it involves more keystrokes, but I use "!rz < /dev/ttys2 > /dev/ttys2".
This way, I can download over different lines without worrying about changing 
an environment variable.  If I use my usual line, I have the desired command
in a Kermit script file and just type "take rb".

-- 
Jim H.
*
* James L. Henrickson  |  "I don't need a signature, I need a job!"
* ujlh@sunyit.edu      |  BSCS, December 1992
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
Subject: Re: 256 shades of gray on X and VGA?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:43:01 GMT

lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:

>Are there any VGA cards supported by freex86 that will allow you to
>get 256 rather than 64 shades of gray in 1024X768, or even 7800X600

If you can accept some slight coloration, you can get 256 near gray
shades from VGA with any VGA or SVGA board.  You just have to have
a different palette of colors.

>? The normal VG pallet registers are only 6 bits. 

...per color... that is the key.  They are really 18 bits because of 3
colors.  Use the standard color to monochrome conversions to find some
off white psuedo grays to use.
-- 
/************************************************************************\
| Phil Howard,  pdh@netcom.com,  KA9WGN    Spell protection?  "1(911)A1" |
| "It's not broken... it's just functionally challenged" --Phil and Pete |
\************************************************************************/
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: A proposal for organizing comp.os.linux. [NEW-CHANNELS]
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:40:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Dec13.204007.17189
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

(sorry for posting metadiscussion. I promise I'll only do it once!)

For what it's worth, I think comp.os.linux is damned near unreadable.
It isn't just that there are 150 messages a day. The messages in this
newsgroup are completely disorganized. There are 150 messages and 100
different threads! I'm disappointed that the group reorg didn't pass.

However, if a few of the louder voices on comp.os.linux really wanted
to, we could still split comp.os.linux this week. Instead of splitting
it according to the normal Usenet voting procedures, split it into the
alt groups. Alt groups don't require a vote - a week's discussion on
alt.config seems to be sufficient.

There are some good reasons not to do this. For one thing, it's fairly
sleazy. I don't think anyone's circumvented the newsgroup voting rules
this way before. Also, alt groups are in general not as desirable as
groups in the Usenet heirarchy.

I don't know if it's a good idea. But it is an option.
                __
nelson@reed.edu \/   You're free, so anything could happen, so happy birthday
From: rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Where can I find out the geometry?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 19:26:50 GMT
Organization: Just me.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33
Summary: It's not in the doc's and the config util doesn't say...
Keywords: hard drive conner 340 type 63

Does anyone know where I could find out what the geometry of my new drive is?
I seem to recall someone mentioning a list stored on some archive...

It's a Conner Peripherals 340.1-MB CP3361 (Type 63)... or so CONFIG tells me.
I don't even know, but I suppose it's probably an IDE???

Rick Miller   <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>   Ricxjo Muelisto
Occupation:  Husband, Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus Sys0p, and  Linux fan
From: c60b-1fk@e260-1c.berkeley.edu (Ahmon Dancy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: select()
Date: 17 Dec 1992 03:59:01 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: e260-1c.berkeley.edu
Originator: c60b-1fk@e260-1c.berkeley.edu


I don't know if this has been addressed before so I'll mention it.
Here's the situation.   I have some code like this:

select(sock+1, &r, NULL, NULL, NULL);
r is set for stdin and sock.   

The problem is that lets say 'sock' is continually ready to send,
then the program will proceed like normal (printing what was received
at sock).  But if I hit SPACE on the keyboard, all input from sock
stops and select doesn't report any more ready data until I hit
return on the keyboard.  Can anyone explain this?   Is it supposed
to be this way? I don't think so.   It's kind of a nice feature for
muds but it's easy for it get annoying.  Do I need to do some ioctl on
stdin?

Any info is appreciated
-- 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Ahmon Dancy  (c60b-1fk@webworm.berkeley.edu)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE Normal user floppy file systems
Date: 19 Dec 1992 19:37:08 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu
Keywords: normal floppy


In fact, this program is a total lose.  How about this:

  floppy -m "run-me-as-root-heh-heh" new

I think not.

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