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From: laird@think.com (Laird Popkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Re: CDTV??
Date: 27 Jul 1992 20:56:40 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: django.think.com

In article <27160001@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> marky@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Mark Yoshikawa) writes:
>I haven't visited this notes group in a while....
>
>What's going on with CDTV?

The next cool think I've been hearing is that once MPEG chips are
available, C= will add them to CDTV.

>Are there new titles being developed?

I was in a store the other day (The Memory Location, in Wellesly, MA, great
Amiga dealership) and I was impressed by the rack of CDTV titles available.
I would guestimate that there were perhaps 50-100 titles, though I didn't
try to see how many were duplicates so there may have been fewer different
titles.

>In the Good Guys I saw a stand for Phillips' CD-I machine, but none for CDTV. 
>I know the Phillips machine does not double as a computer, but CDTV can...
>and since I own an Amiga it makes for a nice way of doing computing in my 
>living room!

Actually, CD-I can be expanded to a computer the same way CDTV can, though
Phillips doesn't advertise that since it's a home multimedia system (or
whatever), not a computer.  I've seen CD-I systems with hard drives, floppy
drives, and all sorts of other add-ons.  Of course, there's a lot more
computer software available for the Amiga than CD-I, but if you want a
computer with a CD-ROM drive you're better off buying one, rather than
buying a CDTV or CD-I unit and added a hard drive, keyboard, etc.

>Also, I thought this notesgroup was a lot larger? Is this a bad sign?
>
>
>Thanks in Advance!
>Mark Yoshikawa
>Yet Another Amiga User (YAAU)


-- 
- Laird Popkin, Thinking Machines

Connection Machine: Massively parallel supercomputer.  Also a cool black
cube with more blinking lights than you can shake a stick at.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: ycheung@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Yat Lok L. Cheung)
Subject: Digitizer resolution
Organization: University of Hawaii at Manoa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 23:02:35 GMT



Which digitizer ( on Amiga Platform ) has the highest resolution ??
DCTV ??  Digiview ? ...

<Lawrence>...

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From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Digitizing from a VHS Videotape
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:49:21 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

What is the best way to digitize frames from a running VHS
videotape, creating 24 bit IFF files.  Preferably from a running
tape, since the VCR I would use jitters a bit on freeze frame.

-Roger
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From: phister@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ben Phister - CATS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Re: CDTV??
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:59:00 GMT
Reply-To: phister@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ben Phister - CATS)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <151nu8INNasg@early-bird.think.com> laird@think.com (Laird Popkin) writes:
...
>>In the Good Guys I saw a stand for Phillips' CD-I machine, but none for CDTV. 
>>I know the Phillips machine does not double as a computer, but CDTV can...
>>and since I own an Amiga it makes for a nice way of doing computing in my 
>>living room!
>
>Actually, CD-I can be expanded to a computer the same way CDTV can, though
>Phillips doesn't advertise that since it's a home multimedia system (or
>whatever), not a computer.  I've seen CD-I systems with hard drives, floppy
>drives, and all sorts of other add-ons...

A minor clarification:  there are models of CD-I systems that include keyboards,
floppies, etc.  However, the standard consumer CD-I unit (the one you see in
Radio Shack, Circuit City, etc.) can NOT be expanded into a computer -- no way
to add a keyboard or floppy.  Only the higher-priced models, intended primarily
for developers or for industrial use, can be exanded.

Ben
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email:   USENET ..rutgers/uunet!cbmvax!phister
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From: DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Re: AmigaVision and arrays?
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:32:58 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>I've looked through the AmigaVision manual (paperback version) and
>can't find anything about arrays...
>
>hence the question... does AmigaVision support arrays?
>
>James Diffendaffer
>

I've never worked with AmigaVision but I've heard that poeple use little Dbase
databases for arrays.

Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
DonD@cup.portal.com   |you can lose it more than once|  Amiga/Imagine
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: 10754555@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (DAVID RICHARDS)
Subject: CD for the A500
Keywords: CD A500
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 04:05:05 GMT

I recently read an article about the new A570 for the A500, looks 
immpressive but what I would like to know is can you get blank CDs and write 
to them?
600 Meg is a lot of space to be taken advantage of especially for an A500.
From: sl1zm@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: AmigaVision and arrays?
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:33:19 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

I've looked through the AmigaVision manual (paperback version) and
can't find anything about arrays...

hence the question... does AmigaVision support arrays?

James Diffendaffer


 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: c8908461@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (Robert Lang)
Subject: CDTV as a CD-ROM , or vica-versa ?
Organization: Uni of Newcastle, Australia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:47:57 GMT


Just wondering....can a CDTV be used as a CD-ROM (ie. I have a 3000 and
would like a CD-ROM, the CDTV part is nice too...), or, when the CD-ROM
comes out (A570?) ... will I then be able to run CDTV software ???

Thanks,

Robert.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
From: kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling)
Subject: Re: CDTV??
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:19:48 GMT

Ben Phister writes:
>laird@think.com (Laird Popkin) writes:
>>Actually, CD-I can be expanded to a computer the same way CDTV can, though
>>Philips doesn't advertise that since it's a home multimedia system (or
>>whatever), not a computer.  I've seen CD-I systems with hard drives,
>>floppy drives, and all sorts of other add-ons...
>
>A minor clarification:  there are models of CD-I systems that include
>keyboards, floppies, etc.  However, the standard consumer CD-I unit
>(the one you see in Radio Shack, Circuit City, etc.) can NOT be expanded
>into a computer -- no way to add a keyboard or floppy.  [...]

The current consumer CD-I units (including the Philips color LCD portable
due out in a few months) _could_ be expanded since they do have a bus slot
(meant for the MPEG decoder board) and even a port usable for a keyboard.
I know of several companies besides Philips who're thinking of selling
an inexpensive memory/floppy/SCSI card, but no firm plans yet.

However, probably few future models will include an expansion slot: MPEG
will become standard, and handheld players simply won't have the space.

kevin <kdarling@catt.ncsu.edu> <76703.4227@compuserve.com>
From: mike_h_vidal@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: what is happening with Foundation?
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 01:08:53 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

What is happening with the Foundation program?  does anyone have 
the latest version and is it worth me sending in my $$$ to upgrade?
thanks
From: doctor@k9.UUCP (Paul Broe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Re: CD for the A500
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:15:53 GMT
Organization: You have to be kidding...
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <10754555.5.711691505@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10754555@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (DAVID RICHARDS) writes:
> I recently read an article about the new A570 for the A500, looks 
> immpressive but what I would like to know is can you get blank CDs and write 
> to them?
> 600 Meg is a lot of space to be taken advantage of especially for an A500.

Unfortunately, no. The CD drive is a CD-ROM drive. 

-- 
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Internet: broe@plains.nodak.edu
UUCP: uunet!plains!prototype!k9!doctor (My Amiga 2500/20)    AmigaUUCP 1.16D
BIX: pbroe Compu$erve: too expensive.                        AmigaOS 2.04
From: rajah@scam.Berkeley.EDU (Raja S Kushalnagar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Getting a HP ThinkJet to work with A2000 w/ OS 1.3
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:33:45 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Experimental Computing Facility (XCF)
Originator: rajah@xcf.Berkeley.EDU



I just bought a second hand Hewlett Packard ThinkJet (ink based printer)
from someone for a steal.  However, he did not have the HP manuals, and
though my Amiga manuals did have some documentation on how to hook up
an Amiga with a ThinkJet, it was very sparse.  Some of it even seemed to
be wrong (such as setting the DIP switches), or to indicate whether it is
a serial or parallel printer (probably is parallel, and I went ahead as
if it were parallel, but I cannot be sure).

The Amiga manuals (OS 1.3 manual) put a diagram showing 8 DIP switches, 
with 2 and 6 set.  However, the printer has three or four extra dip switches 
by the side of the main row of 8 dip switches, and the Amiga manual says
absolutely nothing about them.  Anyway, I went ahead and set the switches
on the main row, and tried to print out, after installing the HP ThinkJet
driver from the 1.3 extras disk.  I had absolutely no success in getting
anything printed out.  I tried flipping dip switches at random and then
trying again.  No such luck. I ofcourse do not have the time to try the
2^12 possible combinations.  

Also, is the ThinkJet obsolete by now?  That is, would it be impossible to
get replacements for say, the catridges or printer head, etc?

If _anybody_ has a HP ThinkJet hooked up to their Amiga, I'd love to hear
from them on how to make my configuration work!

	-Raja (rajah@{xcf, soda, ocf}.berkeley.edu)
From: squid@carroll1.cc.edu (Craig C Schanning)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: How is "Video Director?"
Date: 27 Jul 92 04:24:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: carroll1.3255
Reply-To: squid@carroll1.cc.edu (Craig C Schanning)
Organization: Carroll College-Waukesha, WI

Does anyone out there have the Video Director, or know any
information on it (i.e. How it works, What it does etc.)  I
do some editing and I am considering buying it, but would like some
more information on it first.  At this point, I don't know a thing
about it, except that it is supposed to help in editing video tapes.

Any replies or follow-ups will be appreciated by me.

Thanks!!!!

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*    And the next thing you know,  ol' Jed's a millionaire    *
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From: marky@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Mark Yoshikawa)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:53:39 GMT
Subject: CDTV??
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia

I haven't visited this notes group in a while....

What's going on with CDTV?

Are there new titles being developed?

In the Good Guys I saw a stand for Phillips' CD-I machine, but none for CDTV. 
I know the Phillips machine does not double as a computer, but CDTV can...
and since I own an Amiga it makes for a nice way of doing computing in my 
living room!

Also, I thought this notesgroup was a lot larger? Is this a bad sign?


Thanks in Advance!
Mark Yoshikawa
Yet Another Amiga User (YAAU)
From: s915426@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Leanne Taylor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: Re: How is "Video Director?"
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:26:19 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

squid@carroll1.cc.edu (Craig C Schanning) writes:

>Does anyone out there have the Video Director, or know any
>information on it (i.e. How it works, What it does etc.)  I
>do some editing and I am considering buying it, but would like some
>more information on it first.  At this point, I don't know a thing
>about it, except that it is supposed to help in editing video tapes.

I saw Video Director whilst in Micro Ed enterprises of Chicago whilst on a Worldtrip with my Fiance (What a lot of whilsts :-) and decided to grab it as I had 
a sony camcorder and at that stage about 8.5 hrs or raw footage that we had
taken over the previous 6.5 weeks.  I have only jyst got around to using it but it works great.  The lanc interface plugs into the serial port and controls the camera perfectly, and the infra read sneder/receiver works fine - unfprtunately
though this unit does not work with my video recorder. 

Basically the software allows for the staorage of a libary of clips that can 
then be assembled onto an output tape.  If, as in my case, the IR dpoesn't 
work with your VCR, you can use a manual source deck control which counts
you down to the pause with a nice voice and a 5,4,3,2,1 visual.  This
proved time consuming but quite adequate for my home video editing (Which 
of course will improve when i manage to afford the opalvision card :-)
The stored clip library also means that is I want to find a clip on my 8mm 
tapes, all I have to do is plug in the camera and tell it to first of all calibrate the tape, and then find the clip.  The clipboard used for compiling output
tapes is very easy to use, and clips can be sorted into scenes, with breaks 
and even genlock controls for some genlocks inserted in the program.  

The user interface was very easy to use, and for someone like me whose forte is
desktop publishing, not desktop video, was very easy to use, either via 
the nice looking gagdets and buttons, or through the keyboard shortcuts

All in all a very helpful buy for the low budget, inexperienced home cameraman
that I am glad I invested in.  Oh and the manual is VERY easy to understand..


>Any replies or follow-ups will be appreciated by me.

Not a Problem

>Thanks!!!!

Justin

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>*    And the next thing you know,  ol' Jed's a millionaire    *
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| Mail Justin through me at : s915426@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Leanne Taylor) |
| Mail Justin Direct at     : dweaver@phoenix.pub.uu.oz.au (Justin Deeley) |
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From: rac@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Richard A. Cervantes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.multimedia
Subject: AmigaVision/Multimedia FTP sites?
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:44:56 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

Would some kind soul email to me a list of FTP sites that are
known to have some AmigaVision Demos available, please.

Thanks,
-RAC-
rac@swrinde.nde.swri.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: truong@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (hoa nhu truong)
Subject: mac laptop for sale or trade
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:08:40 GMT

Mac Laptop (Outbound design)

16MHz 68000 processor
5 MB RAM (upgrade to 20MB using mac SIMMs)
40MB internal HD
1 high density floppy (read/write dos disk as well)
2 batteries (3 hrs each), ac adaptor
SCSI interface (to use external SCSI devices, or dock unit to desktop mac's)
Removable infrared keyboard, external mouse/internal isopoint mouse
About 8lbs, only 1.5 years old
Corduray carrying case
In excellent condition/shape.  Have a desktop system, and don't need two systems. 

For sale or trade for a comparable amiga system.  No need to use amax ii anymore.  
===============================
Post for a friend.  Send offer to this account, and I'll relay the message to him.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: chymes@geneva.csmil.umich.edu (Charles Hymes)
Subject: DCTV WANTED
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 15:15:23 EDT
Organization: Cognitive Science and Machine Intelligence Lab, U. of MIichigan
Keywords: n


_____________________________

I want a DCTV.
How old is yours?
What version Hardware/Software?
How much are you asking?

Charles Hymes
From: ree88132@zach.fit.edu (Keith Ledig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: 2000 for sale
Keywords: GVP, Hard Disk, A500 accessories
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:53:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

Amiga 2000 for sale, 2 floppies, keyboard, mouse,
and an 8 meg ram expansion board populated with
4 megs.   Asking $750 firm.

Keith

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: ycheung@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Yat Lok L. Cheung)
Subject: Re: Laser Light Show w/ Amiga Computer [ To Steve Robbins ]
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:15:19 GMT


Sorry... email bounced.

Steve,
What version is the Lasershow Designer ?  300 or 400 ?
Would you consider selling it w/o the Amiga ?  I dont need another Ami.

<Lawrence>...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: steve@utdallas.edu (Steve Hodo)
Subject: A500/PJ-1080A/games
Reply-To: steve@utdallas.edu
Organization: The University of Texas at Dallas, ACC
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:23:07 GMT

Amiga 500 with 1 meg ram
CA-880 external 3.5" drive
Comadore 1084S stereo monitor
2 misc joysticks
Cannon PJ-1080A color printer  (I can sell or keep this, buyers choice)
			       (also have extra ink cartridges)
				
	500.00 without printer
	100.00 for the printer
	..........

Games available......If you buy the system, you can 'have' any or
all of these games (assuming somone else hasn't already bought them.)
 
(all games have full docs and most have boxes.  some even have)
(registration cards.                                          )
  
Sim Ant---20.00
RoboSport---20.00
688 Attack Sub---15.00
Dungeon Master---15.00
Blood Money---10.00
King of Chicago---10.00
Silent Service II---20.00
Rick Dangerous I ---10.00
Heros Quest I---10.00
Lords of the Rising Sun---10.00
Emire---10.00
 
Everything works, never broken or modified. (hardware and software)
 
Baud Bandit (comm software),OS (workbench 1.3) - (both have full docs)
other minor utility sofware, all go with the system.

Buyer pays shipping costs.
--------------------------
 
Steve Hodo
Dallas, TX
 
steve@utdallas.edu
work (214)690-2741
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From: basile@johnny5.UUCP (John Basile)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: <None>
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:47:11 GMT
Organization: n/a
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.22 (Beta) by Mike Schwartz


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet (Teddy Wang)
Subject: Re: Misc for sale
Reply-To: tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 14:47:09 GMT

In article <shane.07ln@peeker.uucp>, shane@peeker.uucp (Shane R. McCarthy) writes:
>
>   Time to clean out the closet.
>
>   I have a FlickerFixer by MicroWay, includes the Denise Extender  $150 US
>
>   Supra SCSI controller for the Amiga 1000, built in clock and buss
>pass-thru. Asking $100 US
>
>   Will trade for HD's, hi-speed modem or any other interesting amiga
>hardware for the 2000. 
>
>
>-- 
>Shane McCarthy                  Please forward mail to
>Windsor, Ont.                   stss.org!jabba!peeker!shane

Shane I can't seem to reach you thru e-mail so I'll have to try you this way!
I'd like to trade my Trumpcard Professional, Gravis SwitchStick and an *OLD*
fat AGNUS chip for your MicroWay FlickerFixer - Denise Extender setup!

You can reach me at (518) 426-7177, I am not home during the days, but leave a
message!

You can also e-mail me at any of the addresses below.  You may have since
gotten mail from me from my twang@thor.build.albany address?!?!?

Thanks Teddy

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       //                                             twang@thor.albany.edu
      //                                              TWANG@ALBNYVMS.BITNET
     //  eddy Wang                                    TW5232@ALBNYVMS.BITNET
    //   Computer Art and Animation at SUNY Albany
         New Illusions      Albany, NY                  "Increase the Peace..."
From: peter@aristotle.sbi.com (Peter Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
Subject: External Floppy drive/LUCAS
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:12:49 GMT
Reply-To: peter@avogadro.sbi.com
Organization: Salomon Brothers Inc.



I have an external floppy drive which I was useing on my A500
I do not know what it is worth so i am going to ask for $60.00
But ill talk....

CBM's Amiga External$60.00 + COD/Shipping..

I also have a LUCAS 68020 accelerator board with no CPUs
That I did have running...in my A500( I modified the connector with a 
ribbon cable...) which Ill sell for $70.00 + cod/shipping...

peter
ttfn...
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.marketplace:6134 misc.forsale.computers:27292 misc.forsale:21666
From: hao@eastern.COM (Hao Dang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale
Subject: Re: Best Price on an Amiga 3000
Keywords: Amiga.3000
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:15:51 GMT
Organization: Eastern's Public Access BBS, Toronto CAN

mac1@Flute.CC.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema) writes:

>  What is the best price that you have ever heard/paid for                   
>  an Amiga 3000/25/50 ? I am an authorized C= Amiga dealer 
>  and understand that price pays an important role in the 
>  sale of a computer (specially for Amigans), so I want you
>  guys to help me set a price on the 3000 that will sell it
>  like hot cakes. 

Well, I'm in the process of buying an AMIGA from the states now for a cost 
of $2000 US (includes shipping).  This package includes:
 
AMIGA 3000 25Mhz/68882 Math-co
105 Meg Quantum HD
6 Megs Ram (2 Chip/4 Fast)
3 1/2 inch floppy
WB 2.04 ROMS
1950 Multisync Monitor

>  I'd be willing to go well below the lowest price ever heard
>  on these machines. Thanx alot in advance.

If you can beat that deal, maybe we can arrange something.  But it's highly 
unlikely you'll beat that price ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: harve@netcom.com ()
Subject: Amiga 2000 for sale
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 01:44:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Amiga

Amiga 2000
    1.3 roms
    1 meg agnus
    2 internal floppy drives                         $700

Amiga 1080 RGB color monitor                         $120

Amiga 2052 Two meg ram card                          $80

Dataflyer IDE controller card                        $60
Maxtor 7080AT 80-meg 17ms IDE hard drive             $160


Interested in any of the above items?  Call Harve at (408)738-4336
                             and leave a message if I'm not around.

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