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From: haker@offroad.chem.wisc.edu (Michael Haker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Mounting NFS directories on a mac
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:07:13 GMT
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison

Hello.

I was wondering if there are any products out there to mount NFS
disks from a unix TCP/IP network (i.e. NeXTs) onto a macintosh?
Right now we have 2 NeXT on a TCP/IP network and 3 macs on an
ethertalk network.  I have heard of a product called CAP which
might do something like this.  If anyone can give me information
on CAP or on other products to do this I would be grateful.  Our big
disks are on our NeXTs and we would much rather have the macs connect
to the NeXT network rather than make the NeXT connect to the mac 
network (like becoming an appleTalk server).

Another question: can one run both TCP/IP and some other network
protocol (like novell or ethertalk) at the same time on the same
network (i.e. the same wiring)?

Thanks
Mike Haker
haker@offroad.chem.wisc.edu
From: jrd@lynx.frame.com (James Drew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Sound editors?
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:11:36 GMT

I have a friend who is interested in the sound editing capabilites of whatever
software may be available for the NeXT.

His goal is to be able to examine the waveforms for a given piece of recorded
sound (I believe that it is music with a vocal track), identify the vocal
sections, cut and paste (and stretch, modify, and otherwise edit) segments of
the sound while leaving the background noise (music) alone, and then re-record
the whole lot.

To within certain limits, I do not believe that memory, software costs, and
additional minor hardware (microphone, adaptors, etc.) are a cost factor.
*Any* information on such sound editing software for the NeXT (including
pointers to magazine articles) would be appreciated.

Please send e-mail.  I'm unable to read this newsgroup.  Thanks.

------------------------------
                             |     "What's that?" I asked, pointing to the
Jim Drew                     | roped-off stairs, labelled "Please Wait to Be
jrd@frame.com                | Seated," and the sliding doors next to them,
(Furry: Randy Puritan)       | with a sign reading "Use at Your Own Risk."
"Innocent, but not naive."   |     "Thet's the Stairway to Heaven," said Ron,
B2h t w- c k s g+(p) rv p    | "and the Express Elevator to Hell.  They tell me
S8/5 g l+ y+ o+ a+ u++- j++  | it was s'posed tuh go to Heaven, too, but y'
{opinions: mine != frame's}  | know how they say, 'In Case of Fire, Use the
			     | Stairs,' 'cause elevators tend to malfunction?"
			     |     "I'm sure they had good intentions," I said.
			     |		- Marc Lynx, "A Conventional Death"
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From: ray@mtl.mit.edu (Ray Ghanbari)
Subject: Re: Open letter to NextDevelopers (long)(Flamebait)
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:46:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.230813.26811@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) writes:
> 	
> Case in point:
> 	I downloaded EquationBuilder immediately on reading the announcement,  
> as it fills a function that several of my users have asked about.
> 		I read the doc file.  The program runs for two minutes, and  
> then quits.  One of my users wants to know how EqB handles multiline equations.   
> He can maybe type in three lines of equations in two minutes?  Another wants to  
> see how the various options interact in producing tex files, and so he wants to  
> print the file after each change.  Right.  Another wants to see how EqB  
> interacts with WriteNow, WordPerfect, Edit, FrameMaker, Diagram, Adobe  
> Illustrator, and Create.  Another wants to find out if he can easily use  
> characters from the Shalom or Cyrillic Fonts.  Another has half an equation  
> typed in, but times out while hunting for the set intersection symbol.  With a  
> two minute timeout, this is not a useful package.
> 	Twenty minutes, maybe.  It would be a nuisance to have to restart it  
> three times per hour.  People who needed it for a single equation wouldn't  
> register it.  People who used it day after day would pester me to get them a  
> copy.	
> 

Sherwood raises a lot of interesting points in his post.  I certainly have felt similar frustrations myself.  It just hurts to see our EquationBuilder app used as an example (ouch)

We agree that two minutes is not much time to demo an application.  However, we thought that it would be sufficient for a user to test one concept or idea on each launch.  We hoped that by including our 120 page manual in the distribution already indexed for Digital Librarian would help answer peoples questions (eg search for multiline and Chapter 8: Multiline Equations pops up, or search for FrameMaker and Appendix D: Working with other Applications pops up).

But there is still the larger question of whether people prefer crippled demos that run indefinitely, or fully functional demos that die after some fixed time.  The jury seems to still be out on this one.  It is just as easy for us to do either.  It depends on what the community prefers.  (Perhaps both?)

Regardless, if someone feels that they need more time to evaluate our app, just drop us a note and we will do our best to be accommodating.

Ray Ghanbari
Digital Tool Works
(617) 742-4057
ray@dtw.com
ray@mtl.mit.edu

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From: elitman@rac2.wam.umd.edu (Eric A. Litman)
Subject: Re: List of database names for dwrite avail? (was: Re: Power on/off key quesition)
Organization: U. of Maryland, College Park.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:59:23 GMT

jeffo@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:

: Is there a place where *all* the names of options such as
: "BypassPowerOffConfirm" are listed (as well as what they do)?  I've
: seen tons of messages about what dwrite commands to give to get <this>
: to do <that> but I can't find any list of where people get these
: names.  I've got a 100MB 2.1 machine, so if it's in the extended
: release, that's why I've never seen it.

If you have the latest version of DefaultMgr, you can use the Investigate
command located under the Set menu. Open /usr/lib/NextStep/Workspace.app/\
Workspace to find all of them.

-Eric Litman
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From: m@crito.Stanford.EDU (M Carling)
Subject: NeXTWorld EXPO 1993 (was: stupid Net tricks)
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:39:30 GMT

In article <Bs18H8.G97@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David  
Lemson) writes:
> I was wondering if you knew something we didn't....
> I'd be interested in knowing if there are plans for this yet.  Simson?
> Anyone?

I expect it to be announced the day that the schedule is finalized.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
--
Bill Clinton lied to his wife. How can his country trust him?
George Bush lied to his country. How can his wife trust him?
From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: InstantTex demo
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:47:45 GMT

I have gotten the latest demo of InstantTeX (the TeX editor and environment
that will constantly update to the previewer) but can't get it to actively
update more than about four characters in "InstantTeX-on" mode. Has anyone
gotten this demo to work? Any idea what I might be doing wrong?

BTW-The drag-and-drop of EPS files into InstantTeX's TeXEdit is a nice feature
(it automatically adds the code to include the graphic file.)

Thanks in advance for any help,

Charlie

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From: jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca (Joseph Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXT vs. Mainframes...
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:33:46 GMT
Reply-To: jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca
Organization: The Wordcraft Group - Vancouver, B.C., Canada

In article <1992Jul18.183940.29052@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>  
aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner) writes:
> 
> ok, guys....
> I have a friend who is in a position to help make a 6,000 person
> company (every person has a computer, thus 6,000 machines! big 
> big deal!) switch from their IBM mainframes over to NeXTs. The
> only problem is I need help coming up with a good presentation
> to give to president/ceo/owner of the company to form a comittee.
> I know NeXTs are for them (they will still need a VAX or two to
> do some of the insurance processing but in general I think they
> can switch over... Please, I think this kind of deal would not
> only help out the company (they do a lot of mission critical
> apps) but also give NeXT a big deal to break through the MIS
> types... Thanx ahead of time... Please post responses I think
> this discussion would benefit from an open forum basis. This
> will show how far NeXT has really come and how far they have
> to go...
> CW

Let's stop being naive for a second ... in the REAL WORLD where  
transaction processing is key, NeXT is not in the position to replace  
mainframes. For example, for security and transaction processing power,  
the IBM CICS is still hard to beat. Instead, user friendly computers such  
as NeXT, should be used to with the mainframes and make the information  
more presentable and accessible. The NeXT computers will also help to  
computerize many other duties (e.g. word processing) and make using  
computers more enjoyable. I cannot discuss in any detail what I do, but  
suffice to say that I am involved in the implementation of a massive  
wide-area corporate client-server information system that involves  
mainframes, VAXes, workstation servers, and personal computers (Macs and  
friends, no PCs thank you) ... and I believe this is the approach to IS in  
the 90s - co-workers who attended the last DB Expo confirm that we are  
definitely on the right track. It would be anything but silly to think  
personal computers will make mainframes extinct.

Joe
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From: fhb3+@pitt.edu (Fr Beatrous)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: binary file transfer with kermit on nextstation
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:54:12 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I've been unable to get kermit to receive binary files on my nextstation.
It works just fine on text files, but it hangs up after a few packets with
binary files. After several retries, kermit aborts the transfer with the
message "Too many NAK's". I've used kermit on other unix systems for
years, and have never encountered this problem before. The kermit settings
on the nextstation side are as follows:

C-Kermit 5A(170) ALPHA, 23 Apr 91, NeXT
Communications Parameters:
 Line: /dev/tty, speed: 2400, mode: remote, modem: direct
 Parity: none, duplex: full, flow: xon/xoff, handshake: none

Protocol Parameters:   Send    Receive
 Timeout:               10        7        Server timeout:   0
 Padding:                0        0        Block Check:      1
 Pad Character:          0        0        Delay:            5
 Packet Start:           1        1        Max Retries:     10
 Packet End:            13       13
 Packet Length:         90       90     
 Length Limit:        9024     9024        Window:           1   1
 Buffer Size:         9065     9065

File parameters:        Attributes:       on
 Names:   converted     Debugging Log:    none
 Type:    binary        Packet Log:       none  Longest filename: 255
 Collide: backup        Session Log:      none  Longest pathname: 1024
 Display: on            Transaction Log:  none

File Byte Size: 8, Incomplete Files: discard, Init file: .kermrc


Any Suggestions?

--Frank Beatrous
  frank@next419.math.pitt.edu

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From: rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good)
Subject: *URGENT2*: Printer server again (nothing in /tmp now)
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:02:36 GMT


well, after feeling the pressures of not being able to turn in 1/2 of my
semester grade, I went ahead and shut off the machine.  It made it's usual
beeps and the printer did it's usual reset, but it still gave me the message:

NO SPACE available on remote disk

It still won't print anything, and the /tmp is empty.
It turns out that NOTHING that uses the disk will run on this machine,
so as you all guessed it, nothing does run on here.  Things like 
WordPerfect will run as long as the document is no more than a few lines, but
if it gets bigger, **ZAPP**.

Any hints on what I should do now?
Any directories I should look into?

The machine was working earlier tonight because I was printing some heafty
graphics.  Could some .nfs* files be lurking around somewhere?  Some of my
graphic files??  Could I erase them without being a root?

Help.. please!

--

Joseph Good
+-------------------+ - More than just a band....
| Green Dot Brigade | - It's a whole damn army of dots...
+-------------------+ - And we've declared war on the 7-Up dots...

rscott@nmsu.edu (NeXT mail welcome!!)

atlantis@acca.nmsu.edu  (Just plain ol' Unix)
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From: lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: AGH! NewsGrazer and Mail gang up & destroy work!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:56:20 GMT

robert@metropolis.com (Robert Munyer) writes:


>In article <1992Jul26.065529.23264@metropolis.com> robert@metropolis.com
>(Robert Munyer) writes:

>> Run Mail.  Read an incoming message.  Spend 45 minutes composing a reply.
>> Don't send it just yet.  Run NewsGrazer.  Read an article.  Hit the "Reply"
>> button.  Your PRE-EXISTING Send window comes to the front, and the reply you
>> spent all that time writing gets DELETED and replaced by the article text.

Did the same to me...I just learned not to do anything until I am
done with that window after the first couple of times it did that to
me...
-- 
David Lemson                                                 (217) 244-1205
University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant  / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                 UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
NeXTMail accepted                                   BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Two-headed cubes & brightness control
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:06:04 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.161811.3277@cs.ucla.edu> esky@marathon.cs.ucla.edu  
(Eskandar Ensafi) writes:
> 
> When you have a two-headed cube (ND & monochrome) with the color display  
> attached to the ND set up as the *main* screen, do the brightness  
controls (on  
> the keyboard & in Preferences) affect the monochrome, color or both  
displays?
> 

Both. (Just tried it).

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From: cedman@714-725-3165.nts.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Emacs app as default editor
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Reply-To: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:44:30 GMT

Roberto DiCosmo writes
> In article <2A70C755.3175@noiro.acs.uci.edu> cedman@714-725-3165.nts.uci.edu  
> (Carl Edman) writes:
> > Steven Sietz writes
> > > I just installed the app yesterday.  I tried a dwrite
> > > Workspace DefaultOpenApp Emacs to set it up as the
> > > default editor but it didn't work properly.  After I
> > > logged out and in again, I couldn't open up any of the text
> > > files (not even with Edit).  Any suggestions??
> > 
> > Emacs does not have a openFile method. Adding it is not too hard.
> 
> You need the last version of Emacs (2.1) that has an openFile method...
> on the archives, or try spi.ens.fr in /pub/next/emacs

You are right as I found out shortly after my post. But it _still_ doesn't have  
Service menu and programable keypad support ! :-)

	Carl Edman
From: bavenell@next.com (Bette Avenell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: STOLEN NeXTstation
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:21:23 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul14.165812.19297@dale.ksc.nasa.gov>  
jporter@picard.ksc.nasa.gov writes:
> This is great, but I have a question:  If I wish to buy a used NeXT, can I  
> check the numbers with you to make sure my fingers (and pocketbook) don't get  
> burned?
> 
> John Porter
> jporter@picard.ksc.nasa.gov

Yes you can.  I checked with Paula and she said she'd be glad to do this.

Bette Avenell
bavenell@next.com
From: monty%roscom@think.com (Monty Solomon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Hayes e-mail address
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:53:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: proponen.1992Jul21.095345.2454
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent

In article <1992Jul20.145834.12165@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>  
stel@movado.dull-domain (Stelios Makrinos) writes:
> Does anyone have an e-mail address or a toll-free number for Hayes  
Microcomputer Products.  
> 
> I am interested in it so that I can get full information on their ISDN  
eXTender.

You can get the information from their BBS:

1 800 874 2937 (US HAYES) or 1 404 446 6336 (HI MODEM)
-- 
# Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA  01701-0405
# monty%roscom@think.com
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From: lemson@fnbc.com (David Lemson)
Subject: Re: Powering on at a certain time with upgraded Cube?
Reply-To: lemson@fnbc.com
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 14:17:09 GMT

In article <1841@ltb.ltb.bso.nl> wierda@ltb.ltb.bso.nl (Gerben Wierda)  
writes:
> Dear everybody,
> 
> 	I was wondering if I will be able to make an arrangement where I  
can
> make my computer turn on/off at certain times. I was looking into:

> This is an upgraded NeXTcube running 2.1
All of the upgraded NeXTCubes that I have seen did not have the clock  
chips that all NeXTStation Colors and most NeXTStation monos have. (all  
Turbos have it, as well).    Someone posted from NeXT a while ago saying  
that they didn't think that any 040 boards for cubes had the clock chip,  
either.
I assume that the Turbo cubes have the proper chips so that they can do  
this (since I have heard it is almost the same board as the turbo  
stations).
--
David Lemson                                           (312) 732-4741
FNBC Sys Admin (Summer) UIUC NeXT Campus Consultant(rest of the time)
E-mail to: lemson@fnbc.com                          NeXTMail accepted
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From: wln-mail@cs.columbia.edu (William Lee Nussbaum)
Subject: Re: Where to Buy a Copy of NeXTWorld in Boston
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:12:19 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.173955.20463@athena.mit.edu> jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) writes:
>In article <1992Jul19.012130.6218@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st902640@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>|> I called up the company in california and found a number of places that do have
>|> it.  I just boiught it at The Corner Store in Lexington, but they suggested
>|> Out Of Town News at Harvard Square in front of the Coop.
>|> _____________________________
>|> David SOlomon                st902640@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
>|> 
>Out of Town sometimes has NeXTWorld.  I find the paper shop just
>accross the road ie right next to the Co-op tends to be more reliable.
>Thougt for reasons I haven't yet figured they still have large
>quantities of this years first issue of NeXTWorld. (ie the one
>covering the new turbos).  Another place to try is The MIT Press
>Bookshop in Kendel square.  I know they have the latest issue as I've
>just got mine from there. 
>
>hope this helps
>
>john.

One more location to try -- Quantum Books, on the corner of the
building group that the MIT Coop is in, down near the service garages,
Legal Seafoods, etc. & stuff...  I'd give the street corners if I knew
'em, but I don't -- rarely venture beyond MIT Press/Quantum when I
drop by Kendall Sq.  Their address is 'Four Cambridge Center'...

Got one there last weekend, a couple days before my sub copy came here
(thought I was expired, after all the payment notices I'd been
getting...)
From: cedman@714-725-3165.nts.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Subject: Re: Emacs 2.1 (Re: How to get an emacs META key?)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Reply-To: cedman@golem.ps.uci.edu (Carl Edman)
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:10:48 GMT

Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy) writes
> Otto J. Makela writes:
> ?   Just a silly question.  Is it possible to specify a filename on the
> ?   "Emacs" command line like it is with normal emacs ?
> You can but it won't read the file into the buffer (Emacs just
> launches the front end, which in turn calls emacs but does not seem to
> pass along arguments). Once you get used to the fact
> thatmouse-selected regions are not highlighted (as in emacs running
> under X), it certainly beats using emacs in a terminal window. 

Well, you shouldn't ever launch a NeXTstep application directly from the  
command line. Instead use open(1) from the command line to use the window  
server to do it.

Some time ago I hacked my version of Emacs to (among other things) accept the  
openFile message. This allows you to open files in a running Emacs with 'open  
-a Emacs <filename>' or even to set the Workspace DefaultOpenApp to Emacs so  
that you can just double click on any file and it will come up in Emacs instead  
of Edit.

	Carl Edman
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From: carstelh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Lans H Carstensen)
Subject: Re: Open letter to NextDevelopers (long)(Flamebait)
Keywords: developers, demo, share, enough, to, eat, =)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:45:07 GMT


In article <1992Jul20.230813.26811@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>  
sherwood@fenris.space.ualberta.ca (Sherwood Botsford) writes:
> Dear Next Developers
(Lots of excellent stuff deleted)
> 	Look guys, what you want to do is make something that is useful as  
> distributed, but isn't quite fully functional.  You are making it  
demo-able,  
> but not useful.  I have 40 users on my next cluster.  They tell me what  
they  
> want after something has been in the /Demos directory for a few months.   
Make  
> it more useful than painful and you'll get my PO.  
(More excellent stuff deleted)

YES!  I agree.  I may have a slightly skewed view upon this subject, as  
I'm being supported by NSF funds at my college this summer, but I think  
that NeXT should set some general guidelines such as those listed in  
previous articles for developers to follow when making disabled products  
and demos.  One man's creativity is another man's burden at times like  
these...and undoubtedly it will hurt the developer community eventually.

The following is MY perspective.  If you are likely to flame it, then just  
skip it.

I believe that if you write Mathematica 4.0 or FrameMaker 10.0 (with all  
the bugs fixed =) you would definitely want to disable at least some of  
the features.  If you write a useful appointment book app and expect  
people to buy it, then you should make it almost completely useable.  If  
you are not going to support your product (well) after you make it, then  
it should at most be fully-operational shareware with all source code  
available for others to fix your bugs.  No matter how nasty that code  
might look (directed towards an answer I received from someone at NeXT  
about Molecule...8^).

Enough said, I think I've made my point.  I'd encourage users who have  
valuable commentaries such as this to post them.  We (the NeXTDevs) can  
only produce good products if we know what makes people happy and still  
manages to keep us with a roof over our heads and food to eat.
--
Lans Carstensen
RHIT IFCYSEM NeXT Developer
RHIT Class of '95
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