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From: rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: 'tiels that go POP
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:42:46 GMT
Organization: School of Statistics, University of Minnesota

In article <50740013@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM>, billg@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Bill Gingras) writes:
|> Also, do 'tiels like to nibble on every little thing they can get their
|> beaks on?  I let Ralph walk around on myself while I'm lying flat and he
|> just runs around biting and chewing on every button, fold in clothing,
|> belt loop, etc. he can find.  I don't have the nerve to just let him sit
|> out unsupervised because I'm afraid he'll eat or chew something that is
|> harmful to him.

Actually, they do.  But they clearly have an affinity for telephone
cords and electrical cords (only if they are plugged into the wall,
though.  :-), so I guess I'd have to leave it to you to determine whether
they get into trouble or into dangerous things from time to time.  :-)

They also occasionally get curious about that neat steam rising from 
that pot.  While doing an aerial search for new things to chew on once, 
mine crash landed in a toilet and got REALLY pissed off at me for leaving 
the lid up (my 'tiel is female... I can't win! :-)

They're a lot of fun, but if you don't want something chewed on at least
once (just so they can see if it's either edible or fun to chew on), then 
lock it away.  I'm thinking about buying a lifetime supply of phone cords
just for her...

-- 
Robert J. Granvin                                       School of Statistics
rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu                             University of Minnesota
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From: grecoj@ecf.toronto.edu (GRECO Gianfranco)
Subject: Re: Adding a second bird
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:02:19 GMT


Given that my spectacled hen is near that age, I am currently looking for a 
mate for her with limited success... ( actually, I can't find a male spectacled
anywhere!!) 
 
Anyways, when and if I do get him, any ideas on how I could introduce them to 
one another?  Someone suggested that I keep them in separate cages for a while
until they get used to eachother.  
  
Any suggestions from people who have been in my position??


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From: mawells@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: close
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:17:54 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

After getting advice from the net I also asked a local bird dealer/breeder
about my rusty cage.  She also said it would be ok to paint.  Clean cage
really well, making it smooth and then get a non-acrylic paint (non-lead).
Also good if your cage had chipped paint.  Just smooth the bar that is chipped
and paint over it.

BTW,  thanks to all who replied.

Mary Ann  EMT-A
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I've had my new 'tiel now for about two weeks.  Since I've had him, I've
noticed this weird noise coming from his insides.  It sounds sort of
like a nuckle cracking, but it's lower pitched and internal.  The
breeder says that it's his diaphagm muscle popping.  I believe her, but
just wanted to know if anyone elses 'tiel makes a similar noise.

Also, do 'tiels like to nibble on every little thing they can get their
beaks on?  I let Ralph walk around on myself while I'm lying flat and he
just runs around biting and chewing on every button, fold in clothing,
belt loop, etc. he can find.  I don't have the nerve to just let him sit
out unsupervised because I'm afraid he'll eat or chew something that is
harmful to him.

- Bill G

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From: jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Blue&Gold Macaws 
Reply-To: jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu
Organization: AISS/Telecom University of Illinois -- Urbana-Champaign
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:32:33 GMT

Thanks to all that emailed about the Blue & Golds.

 we know have a 4 month old that is a sweet baby.

 

 Marc Rhodes......Your mail came in ok, but that x400 mail address is bouncing
                   if you need info I will post my responses.




     jim crouse
     univ. of illinois
From: btribble@terapin.com (Bobby Tribble)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: cockatiels
Date: 16 Aug 92 06:44:58 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Aug14.164024.11818@mks.com>, steveg@mks.com (Steve Gingerich)
writes:
>lets try this again...I posted some questions on 'tiels and got ONE
>RESPONSE...is the readership that low ? I guess ? Anyway, I'm kind of
>curious as to what different 'tricks' people have their tiels performing.
>And, what are the different methods that tiels like to use for
>bathing purposes...are spray bottles, cage baths, or showers prefered ?
>post or E-mail...thanks....

Well, it's not really a trick, but our 'tiel likes to look in holes...in our
sofa he walks around and looks in the pits inbetween the cushions. He moves his
head close to and away from the hole in a swaying motion. His crest also moves
slightly up and down, like he's curious. Very weird...

Also in our bathroom is a large mirror with another hinged door with a mirror
on it. When we put him inbetween the mirrors, he sees a hundred birdies to talk
to! Just my story...

Bobby Tribble  |8')
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From: kaw4t@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Kent A. Watsen)
Subject: Budgie losing feathers
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:30:58 GMT

Hi, my bird has been losing quite a few small, white feathers recently.
I assume they are coming from his neck since that is the only part which
is white.  Is this normal?

Please e-mail Kent@virginia.edu
From: rghoff@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Alien 'tiel
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:51:12 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

In article <1992Aug14.091727.4382@bb1t.monsanto.com>, dbwebe@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:
> 
> 	I had posted about a couple weeks ago as a new 'tiel owner	
> 	with some questions. One question concerned this noise my 'tiel made
> 	when I got close and talked to her and I described it as 'static'.
[stuff deleted]
> 
> 	I thought this was kind of funny, but I find it curious that I
> 	really haven't run across any other bird owners who have seen this.
> 	Weird.
> 

	Debbie,

	Yes indeed, it really is static. You seem to be having a problem
	with stray voltage or perhaps a ham or CBer in the area that's 
	broadcasting above legal output levels.

	This is a common problem with most 'tiel owners (constant radio
	static eminating from their birds) and alot of people just live
	with it.  But there's no need to.  There are several methods you
	can use to attenuate these sounds and end up living a happy life
	with your pet.

	1. Grounding spike: This goes without saying. Drive an 8 foot 
	   copper grounding spike near the birds perch. Then ground the
	   perch to the spike.  Along with cutting down on interferance,
	   it will help protect your bird in case of a direct lightening
	   strike. (keep in mind this only works as long as the bird is
	   on the perch - other wise clamp the bird to the spike).

	2. Buy one of those TV satelite dishes they sell in the TV Guide.
	   Make sure it's one of those units that sit on top of the TV.
	   If the bird uses this as a perch, then the static noise you spoke
	   of will dissapate, but it may interfer with your TV picture.

	3. Move to a different state free of radio waves. In addition,
	   there are many third world nations were this sort of bird
	   static is notibly absent.

	Obviously there are at least 137 other ways to fix this problem.
	But I won't take up any more bandwidth. So Debbie, let me know
	if this helps.

	Regards, Rick.
From: Debby.Steele@bird.com (Debby Steele)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: SILENT CANARY
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:46:53 GMT

Jon, I have canaries and I have found that they usually do not sing when they
are molting. Canaries molt through the summer. Out of all my canaries I only
have 1 
that will sing in the summer. My guess is that with all the stress and changes
he was going through before,he quit singing and now he is molting
 so he won't sing. I think by the end of Sept he will be back in full song.
Remember to feed him a good diet with extra protein while molting. I give
eggfood twice a week during the molt as well as all the fresh food they get
year round.
 * Origin: Bird Info Network Gateway 303-423-9775 (1:104/234)
From: kb3i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kathryn Brennan)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Emu's (& Ostriches)
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:03:58 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Psychology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>	I used to work with ostrich's which are similar I suppose. We 
>	used a fairly small pen to raise the hatchlings in under a heat
>	lamp. Once they got to full size (not very many of them make it)
>	they had several acres to run on. We had to be very careful about
>	where they wandered and what we fed them because they would eat
>	anything (including rocks) and would frequently die from that.
>        I would always core the lettuce because they would swallow the core
>	whole and that would block them up and kill them. If they did get
>	a hold of something and swallowed it, I would try using mineral 
>	oil which will work in rare instances to work the object through,
>	but I never had one live that way.

Wow, I never knew Ostriches were so dumb!  How do they ever survive in
the wild?

Just curious...
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From: chris@unislc.uucp (Chris DelPrete)
Subject: Re: cockatiels
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:43:40 GMT

My tiels love spray bottles.  And my male lutino, when he is feeling
particularly amorous, will raise one foot and open and close it while making
clicking sounds in rhythm to the foot movements.  He also gets a hilarious leer
on this face.  I don't know where he learned it, but we just love it.  The vet
says he's never seen anything like it.


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From: hosking@cubic.com (Ana M. Hosking)
Subject: Milk on bird's diet ...
Organization: Cubic Toll Systems
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 18:07:12 GMT

Hi!

This is the first time I post anything on the Net, so please forgive my 
mistakes.

I have a red-headed conure, about 1 year old, very healthy and active. I try
to give her a well-balanced diet of seed, fruits and vegetables. Very rarely
I give her a cookie ( I am not into junk food ). My husband started to give
her cereal and milk  (usually Cherios,Crispix or Shreded wheat) at the same 
time he is eating his breakfast. We were very surprised that she left the
cereal aside an drank only the milk.

My question is: Could milk (1% fat) be harmful to my bird in any way? 

Thanks,

Ana Hosking
From: nivek@terapin.com (Kevin Bierl)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Emu's
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:52:35 PST
Organization: BBS

I'm not sure that this is the place to post this, if not let me know where
would be a better place. I have a friend who is interested in raising Emu's. He
would any info he can get on it. Size of area they need, food, diseases to
watch out for, climate and any other info that might be usefull.

                        Thanks in advance,
                               Nivek@terapin.com
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From: chris@unislc.uucp (Chris DelPrete)
Subject: Lesser Sulphur Crested Cockatoos
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:10:18 GMT

I have the chance to buy a lesser-sulpher crested cockatoo for a discounted
price.  I am interested in the conservation/breeding needs of this species.  Is
it endangered?  Is it threatened?  Is it worth setting up in a breeding
program. This bird was neglected to the point of losing any "pet quality" it
ever had.  I am thinking of rehabing it and giving it to the local aviary for
captive breeding.  Any thoughts?

-- chris


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From: alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Alex L. Pace)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Should I Eat My Budgie ?
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:28:29 GMT
Distribution: earth
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin


Someone told me that the name "budgie" means "good to eat" or something
like that.  I have a yellow female that is really quite dull compared to
all the fun I get out of my other bird and i was really curious if I should
just eat her.  I mean, she can't talk and she almost always slaughters her
attempts at whistling wolf whistles, charge, pop goes the weasel, etc and I
am a starving college student....If anyone out there has eaten one of these
birds, please post about how you prepared it (Bakes, Fried, Bar-B-Q, etc),
the texture of the meat, and how it tasted.  Also, she seems a bit boney, I
was wondering if I'd have to pick all her bones out or if they are small
enuf that I can just eat them also.

Thanks in advance,
Alex Pace
alexpace@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

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From: kaw4t@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Kent A. Watsen)
Subject: Re: Should I Eat My Budgie ?
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: earth
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:21:28 GMT

I can't help but relate my personal experience here, although it
may not be of much use to you since it regards a dove I knock off
with a baseball when young.  Anyany, I was practicing for my up
coming baseball game, for you see I was the pitcher, and I spot
this dove a good ten yards off and before I knew it I had knocked
the thing in its head.  I really didn't think I was going to get
it but after I did and ran to see if it was going to be alright.
The poor thing was just a-squirming 'round-n-'round not knowing
which way was up, so I take it in my head to put it out of its
misery.  A swift twist of the neck and it was all over. I was taking
a biology course at the same time and alway was disappointed with
our subjects for dissection.  Well, to make a long story shorter,
I don't think your budgie would offer much more then taste as their
is little meat to be found.  Especially if he hasn't been very active.
My suggestion is to feed it to a cat...and then eat it.

Hope everything works out for you.
From: dbwebe@bb1t.monsanto.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Emu's
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:41:11 CST
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO

In article <nivek.1726@terapin.com>, nivek@terapin.com (Kevin Bierl) writes:
> I'm not sure that this is the place to post this, if not let me know where
> would be a better place. I have a friend who is interested in raising Emu's. He
> would any info he can get on it. Size of area they need, food, diseases to
> watch out for, climate and any other info that might be usefull.
> 
>                         Thanks in advance,
>                                Nivek@terapin.com


	I used to work with ostrich's which are similar I suppose. We 
	used a fairly small pen to raise the hatchlings in under a heat
	lamp. Once they got to full size (not very many of them make it)
	they had several acres to run on. We had to be very careful about
	where they wandered and what we fed them because they would eat
	anything (including rocks) and would frequently die from that.
        I would always core the lettuce because they would swallow the core
	whole and that would block them up and kill them. If they did get
	a hold of something and swallowed it, I would try using mineral 
	oil which will work in rare instances to work the object through,
	but I never had one live that way.
	
	I would suggest calling a wild exotic animal park; they almost always
	have Emu's and would probably be more helpful. I know there's one
	in Springfield, Mo. if you don't have one in your area.

	Hope that helps a little.
From: Olga.Johnson@bird.com (Olga Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: SHOULD I EAT MY BUDGIE ?
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:50:24 GMT

It seems that you got into the wrong category. You must have been looking for
the Cooking area or the Tasteless Jokes. It's a shame that you waste your time
and ours with such nonsense. Grow up. You're in college now.
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From: calving@netcom.com (The Lindsay-Geyer Corp)
Subject: Re: Should I Eat My Budgie ?
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 10:37:47 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: earth

It wouldn't be worth the time spent.  Underneath the feathers, there isn't much to them (unless you haven't eaten in days.  I have a budgie and am slowly, sucessfully training it.  I bought one of the instruction books whin I bought the bird.  It says that if a baby bird has its wings clipped, it will be psychotic.  I previously owned a bird that had its wings clipped as a youngster, and it indeed was. It was constantly fl;uttering its wings in its cage, and never really became accustomed to anything.  (No


, I didn't eat it, it flew  away).  My new bird hs h;is feathers.  He has hever fluttered his wings in his cage.  He is finger-tamed.  He responds to my voice.  He sings.  I have been following the directions in the book.  It works.

Calvin G.

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From: Martin@jsblan.byu.edu (Martin Murillo)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Iguana: Need suggestions
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:31:04 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo, UT.

Hi, we have an iguana that was lost for four days and it 
did not eat during those days; is there something I could
do (besides feeding) to help my iguana?.  He changed skins
and seems weak.

Thanks in advance.

Martin Murillo
Martin_Murillo@byu.edu
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From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets,rec.pets.cats
Subject: Garlic and Brewers Yeast Tablets
Keywords: now we're on to Carnation Instant Breakfast Drink
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:15:13 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Thanks to everyone for their assurrance that Brewers Yeast and
Garlic won't harm my Siamese cat!

Well, Mia is on to new adventures today!  I left the kitchen
for a moment with my Carnation Instant Breakfast drink sitting on the
table, and when I came back she was sitting near the cup.  She looked
quite happy, licking her face, and so on.  Somehow, I have this feeling
that she tried out my drink.  I know she's okay because when I left
for work she was playing "monsters" with the puppy in the spare room.

Again I say -who needs children?  Between Mia, my puppy and my Mom,
what do I need children for??

Thanks again,

Margaret

margaret@cs.arizona.edu





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From: pwilk@reed.edu (Philip Wilk)
Newsgroups: rec.pets,alt.best.of.internet
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:59:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Aug20.185934.14388
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

written on the back of one of those things you put in your car windshield
on sunny days when you park to keep your dash from melting:

DO NOT OPERATE VEHICLE WITH SCREEN IN PLACE

what really scares me is that I am sure the company got sued for it once ....


-- 
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Cannibal  |   day by dragging day, in all the thousand, small uncaring ways."
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From: mlinda@novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets,alt.best.of.internet
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:18:53 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc.,  Austin, Texas

In article <1992Aug19.203442.2205@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl> templon@paramount.nikhefk.nikhef.nl (Jeffrey Templon) writes:
>
>Here's some goodies I had collected at one point:
>
>From a kid's Halloween costume (superman) - stitched into the
>cape was a tag saying "Warning: Use of This Device Does Not
>Enable Wearer To Fly".
>
>					JT
<many good examples deleted>

And my personal favorite....

Found on the inside of a pull top lid of a liquid radiator sealant:

"Caution: DO NOT LICK LID"

Now back to rec.pets......

M'Linda
Rio-the-LOUD and Thomasina-the-cute's Mom-cat and
Ivan the too cute Sheltie's Mom.....


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From: rani@barsoom.nhh.no (Ragnar Nielsen)
Subject: Re: A bunny question
Organization: Norwegian School of Economics
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:27:38 GMT

jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich) writes:

>Recently, he started leaving clumps of pills around the patio.
>They're different than the little round hard ones.  They look
>like little bunches stuck together and they're soft. I keep
>cleaning them up, and he keeps leaving more of them. I can't
>tell if he lays on them or they're melting down from the heat
>(this is south florida), but they meld together in one big
>lump. He still does the regular ones at his cage.  

I guess every bunny owner is familiar with 'bunny molecules',
and and they should not give reason for alarm.
I have 3 bunnies myself, and they all lay them occasionally, in
sizes varying from H2O to polystyrene... :-)
You should be concerned, however, if he lays nothing but soft pills
for extended periods of time.
(And yes, they are not melted, but manufactured that way...)


>He's also shedding a lot.  I've been brushing him every day,
>but it doesn't seem to be helping much.  I also give him a
>papaya tablet every day.  I had started giving him two a day until
>this problem started, and I thought that it might have
>something to do with it so I cut him back down to one a day.
>That didn't help either.

I have never given my bunnies papaya (it's not readily available here
in Norway), but according to the _House_Rabbit_Handbook_ it prevents
furballs by dissolving the (fecal) compound that binds the furballs
together. I guess that means that the papaya might well be the reason
for your bunny's semi-runny droppings. Try not giving him papaya at all
for a day or two and see if the problem persists.

>Please respond with email, as we don't seem to be receiving
>many postings at this site.  I'm afraid I'll miss your answer
>if you respond only to the net.

Keep us informed!

regards,

ragnar

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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets,alt.best.of.internet
Subject: Re: Jonny Cat Litter / Ferrets
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:48:07 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <exuptr.340.714335726@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor) writes:
<tripe deleted>

Oops.  I just realised that all this junk is being x-posted to alt.b.o.i, 
which is probably a mistake.  My apologies.
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