HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Humans as Physical Creatures.
Date: 30 Sep 1992 23:14:48 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
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In article <91011@netnews.upenn.edu>, crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:

>>I agree - I'm NOT athletic and don't intend to become so, therefore I'm not
>>interested in athletic men because I *know* we'd drive each other crazy.

>Well, here's another angle.  I'm definitely not athletic, have no interest
>in athletics, never have, probably never will.  But _every_ man I've dated
>has been very athletic, including the man I'm currently seeing.  He swims
>a mile a day, lifts weights, etc.  We've driven each other crazy on
>occasion, but not because of our different approaches to exercise.  Go figure!

That's interesting.  I assume I'd drive the athletic person crazy because he'd
want to do active things and I'd prefer more sedentary things (such as, say,
tennis v. 10-pin bowling).

I guess if you were both pretty tolerant and laid-back it would work out.  I'd
just hate to get involved with someone who was driven mad by my laziness.



Rachel                           "Supergoof!"
                                    -  -
                                    O  O
                                      >
                                     \_/
From: wjb@moscom.com (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Ignorance
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:38:28 GMT
Reply-To: wjb@moscom.com
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.3 beta PL7]

Daniel Barclay (daniel@clsi.COM) wrote:
: 
: > Define:            ...
: > ...
: Also: MOTAS
Members of the Australian Seekers, of course.  I'm sure by now you can guess
what they're seeking.
-- 
Who needs lime jello?  We had lasagna...
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: The spice of life
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:33:06 GMT

In article <Bv3o1E.4s2@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jello@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jeffrey Ello) writes:
>A couple of questions....
> 
>	What is it, nowadays, that is making people so independant of
>one another?

Why do you think it's something new?

>Is it just college life that keeps people from saying
>hi on the walkways?

College life?  Visit any big city.

>Is it fear of meeting someone stranger than your
>self?

Everyone is stranger than oneself.  This would be a reasonable "fear."

>I would just like to know why people just aren't interested
>in people.... that is, in the real world.

People are interested in other people, but except in certain places, e.g.,
the Kalahari Desert, there are just too many of them.  Our Cro-Magnon
ancestors lived in groups of about two dozen or so (probably never more
than 100) where everyone knew everyone else and contact with strangers
was rare.  Ten thousand years later their descendants are crowded into
cities with millions of strangers around them.  Nevertheless, most of them
have more than nodding acquaintanceship with no more of their fellows than
was the norm in those earlier times (there are, of course, exceptions for
professional reasons, e.g., politicians).  Avoidance is the easiest way
of dealing with such an uncomfortable situation.  Since eye contact is
a threatening gesture, it is to be avoided.  It's all quite natural.

-- Herb Huston
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:16:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.020850.11906@sol.UVic.CA> atovorni@engr.UVic.CA writes:
>         (all kinds of nonsense deleted)       
>
>  Ed. I read your article about doctors & moderate exercise.
>Good one. You forgot one datail: Drinking two 12-ounce beers a day
>has been statistically proven healthier than abstaining from 
>alcohol completely.
>
>  Only goes to show that moderation is healthier than going gung-ho
>and healthier than not partaking at all.
>
>   HMMMMM wonder if they'll prove that for my smoking habit.

Well, stress kills, so to the extent that your body is resistant to the
known dangers of smoking, it might be a life-lengthener.  Right now (as
far as I know; I haven't read today's newspaper yet), there's no way to
predict who's resistant and who's not.

However, I've read that smoking can be detrimental to male sexual performance,
so it could interfere with another good stress-reliever.

-- Herb Huston
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Boston Boink - Highlights
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:21:49 GMT

kgorman@star-trek.bbn.com (Karen Gorman) writes:
wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston) writes:
>Either (a) Karen is an AI, and thus was unable to show herself, or
>(b) Dawn and Karen are the same person, since they have never 
>been seen (or posted) at the same time.

>That's not true on either account.  Kiran was here in Beantown within the 
>last couple of months and met both Dawn and myself at the same time.  Kiran
>can attest to the fact that I am living breathing human creature....Right
>Kiran?

Karen, I'd be happy to, if I thought that anyone took me seriously.

I have 50K of email to answer, 428 articles waiting in this group,
and Diane Ackerman's new book of poems _Jaguar of Sweet Laughter_ to
read.  But I did want to pop in long enough to say that the pizza at
Spagio in Columbus OH is truly exquisite.  NO wait, that dinner with
Karen at Elephant Walk was delightful, and the food was marvelous too.  

(But... who is this Dawn person?  And does she like pizza?)

-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Xref: sparky soc.singles:27090 alt.romance:12296 alt.romance.chat:19149
From: AVERNON1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Andrew Vernon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:19:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: ua1vm.16878C960.AVERNON1
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa

In article <1992Oct6.174335.23415@fid.morgan.com>
sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.134605.16183@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
>mneeley@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Neeley) writes:
>>How long has it been since you were kissed by a member of
>>the opposite sex?
>>
>>       Mark (almost a year)
>
>5.5 hours.
 
Geez. Make me feel bad. I've been doing without for about 18 months.
Sheesh.
 
>(And I'm sure there'll be somebody posting from home while they're
>kissing, just to annoy you.)
 
Was that you?
 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=  A n d r e w   V e r n o n =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                    Living Between the Lines....
                       Anything is possible...
                      And we're gonna prove it!
   Internet: AVERNON1@UA1VM.UA.EDU DGIF#9691 BITNET: AVERNON1@UA1VM
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.penpals
From: puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com (PuterDude)
Subject: Re: High School Students looking for Same
Organization: Intergraph Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:46:50 GMT

 margoli@watson.ibm.com plays a dead tune...

>High school students?  Do they have any younger seesters?

Sure! And in Tennessee, that happens to be their lover!

Incest! A game the whole family can play!

-- 
Puter	puter@no1home.nashvil.ingr.com	.sig by Generic Labels
(Put irritating title here.)		(Put phone # here.)
(Put obnoxious quote here. Please make it as long as possible.)
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: The Engaged Psychobitch from Hell Syndrome
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:55:00 GMT
	<ewillims.717330108@unix1.tcd.ie>
	<1992Sep24.095502.7264@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
	<thurlow.717559432@convex.convex.com>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: thurlow@convex.com's message of 27 Sep 92 02:03:52 GMT

In article <thurlow.717559432@convex.convex.com> thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow) writes:

   Can she help it if her mother told her to lie back and think of Eire
   when she was a little girl? :-)

I think lying back and thinking of ire is more like Ed's position.
--
Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu/(ne crm@cs.duke.edu) 
O/Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
H/3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
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"I am he who walks the States with a barb'd tongue, questioning every
one I meet,/Who are you that wanted only to be told what you knew
before?/ Who are you that wanted only a book to join you in your
nonsense?"  _Leaves of Grass_ xxiii.4.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: What we find attractive
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:34:06 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <1992Sep27.181250.26579@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:

>One of the
>highest, though, was length of the middle finger (+0.61), which seems to
>be more important than either intelligence or hair color.

So _that's_ why all those women were trying to show me their middle
fingers! :-)

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
Across the evening sky, all the birds are leaving
But how can they know it's time for them to go?		- Sandy Denny
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: In need of advice...
Date: 25 Sep 92 16:03:41 GMT
	<9209222335.AA29208@la.tis.com>
	<1992Sep24.003922.17228@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of 24 Sep 92 00:39:22 GMT


In article <1992Sep24.003922.17228@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

   In article <9209222335.AA29208@la.tis.com> gds@LA.TIS.COM (Greg Skinner) writes:
   >
   >Has anyone out there ever successfully changed someone with love, and
   >was it worth it (ie. did you get a working relationship out of it)?
   >Just curious.  This point of view is never expressed when this topic
   >comes up.

   Well, yes and no--you can't really change someone, but you can support
   someone while he or she changes.  Now, it's traditional that they then
   leave as soon as they're happy with themselves, so you just have to be
   there without the expectation or imposing the emotional requirement
   that they will stick around after they've completed the change. 

I'd have to agree with trygve on this -- but I'd make it a little
stronger:  You can't really changes someone, but you can support them
_in_changing_themselves_.

I agree completely on the last part.  It's does (unfortunately) seem
to be that often they leave as soon as they are happy with themselves.
Perhaps because there needs in a relationship are now different.  If
you want the relationship to last, you have to transform the
relationship to match the transformed partner.

Spidey!!!


--
 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
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Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat,talk.bizarre
From: fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton)
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Followup-To: alt.romance,soc.singles,talk.bizarre,alt.romance.chat
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:55:10 GMT

In <1992Oct6.134605.16183@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mneeley@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Neeley) writes:

>How long has it been since you were kissed by a member of
>the opposite sex?

About a day and a half.

>	Mark (almost a year)

Oh, I get it.  Trying to trick people with that Followup-To bit again, huh?
Well, it ain't gonna work this time, boyo.

-- 
ben                                     fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
 "A tight bunch of bastards who want to win while loving each other,
  if they don't destroy their knees first, or start sleeping with 
  each other's girlfriends." - Rigler, about Indiana Ultimate
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: dl@cockatoo.bellcore.com (Daniel Liebster)
Subject: Re: relationship gone to pot?
Reply-To: dl@thumper.bellcore.com
Organization: Packet Communications Research Group (Bellcore)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 13:45:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.023659.22226@cheshire.oxy.edu> ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho) writes:
|>   Okay bear with me, I've just barely joined this group. I would like to
|>know how people have dealt with relationships (or attempts at) with others
|>who are potheads. I got the distinct feeling in my last crash-and-burn affair
|>that I lost out to the weed. I suppose it was more reliable.  My friend also
|>had a thing going that lasted a little longer than mine, but in the end that
|>also burned out as pot took over.

>What a difficult situation, Aileen.  I've seen someone actually win a
>spouse away from an addition, but it took years and it was no joke.

As a mere technicality, pot is not addictive.

dan
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Believe in youself, dammit! (was: Re: Singles Bar)
Date: 25 Sep 92 19:22:17 GMT
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	<JMD.92Sep15115410@lion.bear.com> <rawdon.716742127@cs.wisc.edu>
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Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI's message of 24 Sep 92 14:13:27 GMT


In article <29246@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:

   In <JMD.92Sep23130424@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
   >I cant speak for others on this, but I know that there was huge
   >electricity in my relationship with my SO when we became involved with
   >each other.  I can honestly say that I do (and did at that time) love
   >her unconditionally.  And I assure you, that unconditional love _has_
   >been tested.

   I think that you have a different definition for unconditional love
   than me.  For me it means love without any conditions.  I don't think
   that it's true.  It would mean that I'm loving someone no matter how
   they might change.  I love you because you are you is a condition too.
   So, for me a love without conditions means that I love everyone.  Even
   if someone killed my whole family I would keep loving them.  No, I'm
   no that strong.

I _do_ define unconditional love as you do -- but I also realize that
completely unconditional love is damn near impossible to achieve. I
believe that it is may be similar to what a mathematician would call
an asymptotic state -- you can get closer and closer to it, but
actually achieving it is not possible.

There _are_, however, two applications of unconditionality.  The first
is not having any conditions on who or what you love -- i.e. loving
all living things (human or not), loving our planet.  The second is
loving an individual irrespective of their actions -- i.e. loving
someone even though s/he has hurt you.

I think that there are very very few people in this world who are
unconditional enough to keep loving someone after they killed their
whole family.  That strength is rare -- shown only by the likes of
such individuals as Martin Luther King Jr., and Mother Theresa.

However, we can still strive for that state, and I believe that the
more one strives for unconditionality, the more one is to be praised.

Spidey!!!


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 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
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/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Dominance? (was: The Engagement Ring Question)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 19:51:29 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1a5oa0INNjql@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
>
>Actually since it's the left-handed elite that takes the active role in
>defining everything for the rest of homanity, it is really the truth that the
>ring symbolizes the dominance of the wearer over the giver, and the offering of
>the ring, a gesture of supplication.  This, of course, being true, because the
>left hand is naturally the superior hand.

I'm sorry, but the above is just a tad gauche.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Humans as Physical Creatures.
From: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 2 Oct 1992 01:26:51 GMT
Reply-To: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Oct1.225543.18131@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:
>parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz (Rachel/"Supergoof!") writes:
>
>>That's interesting.  I assume I'd drive the athletic person crazy because he'd
>>want to do active things and I'd prefer more sedentary things (such as, say,
>>tennis v. 10-pin bowling).
>>
>>I guess if you were both pretty tolerant and laid-back it would work out.  I'd
>>just hate to get involved with someone who was driven mad by my laziness.
>
>In defense of some of us, I like to run and work out - I do a LOT of both -
>but other than that I'm extremely sedentary. For instance, today I ran twice
>(4 and 10 mi), and worked out for an hour, and tonight I'll be goiing to a bar
>and shooting pool and - gasp - drinking beer, in large quantity too.
>That is to say, I work out but I'm no finess fascist.

What I meant was that wouldn't it drive you crazy if you wanted to jog together
or something like that and your partner just wanted to veg out?


I know it'd drive me NUTS if a partner never wanted to sit down and watch the
world go by from time to time.  




Rachel                           "Supergoof!"
                                    -  -
                                    O  O
                                      >
                                     \_/
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.penpals
From: kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Scott C. Kramer)
Subject: Re: High School Students looking for Same
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 09:37:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.000402.789@linus.mitre.org> wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston) writes:
>And I though the freshman were looking younger every year!!
>
>---------------
>Bill
>wtr@mitre.org
>**Marrou/Lord in '92.  (If you don't know who they are, you are not a 
>fully informed voter.  Fulfill your civic responsibility and find out!! **
>** Opinions are mine only, and not my employer's **

 No joking and we are getting older each year.......

Scott  kramersc@expert.cc.purdue.edu

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram)
Subject: Re: What we find attractive
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 19:16:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.181250.26579@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>Here are some results from various psychological studies expressed as
>correlation coefficients:
>
>+0.9 level: religion, ethnic background, race, socio-economic status,
>            age, political views.

I am Hindu, my wife a Christian;
I am Indian, she is white;
age : (?) she is 8 months older than I am.
political views : I am a Democrat, she is a Republican

correlation : 0.1

>+0.4 level: measures of personality and intelligence, e.g., extroversion,
>            neatness, and IQ.
>+0.2 level: physical traits, i.e., people tend to select mates who look
>            like themselves!

We don't look like each other.

>
>The physical traits included height, weight, hair color, eye color, and
>skin color.  However, they also included nose breadth, earlobe length,
>wrist circumference, distance between eyes, and lung volume.  One of the
>highest, though, was length of the middle finger (+0.61), which seems to
>be more important than either intelligence or hair color.
>
>The lengths of my middle fingers are 7.8 cm (left) and 8.0 cm (right).
>I'm still trying to figure out how to measure my own interocular distance.
>
>-- Herb Huston

Oh, BTW, we find each other very very attractive

Suresh
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Exercise mania ( was: The great fitness debate)
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:38:40 GMT
	<1992Sep30.025430.4896@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: hankd@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu's message of 30 Sep 92 02:54:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.025430.4896@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> hankd@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Hank Dietz) writes:

   These comments about exercise being so important really bother me.

   I'm 32 years old, exercise mostly as a side-effect of doing things that
   I like to do, and am noticeably more fit than many of the people I know
   who aggressively exercise for the sake of exercise alone.  What's more,
   I don't cause myself injury on a regular basis, while my seriously
   exercising friends often break bones, pull muscles, etc.  It might be
   true that exercise helps, but MODERATION is the key.  Overly intense
   exercise is a great way to do serious harm to yourself -- although the
   endorphins (spelling?) might make that feel good anyway.  ;-)

Wow, the all-or-nothing crowd are really out in force today.  Everything
above is true -- and none of it contradicts the idea that exercise is
important to health.
--
Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu/(ne crm@cs.duke.edu) 
O/Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
H/3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
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"I am he who walks the States with a barb'd tongue, questioning every
one I meet,/Who are you that wanted only to be told what you knew
before?/ Who are you that wanted only a book to join you in your
nonsense?"  _Leaves of Grass_ xxiii.4.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: Humans as Physical Creatures.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:00:03 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <1992Oct2.130636.17283@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:

>Don't wager too much.  Deer and giraffes are in the same basic phylum.

So is everything that has a spinal cord.

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: green@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Rebecca Green)
Subject: Happy Birthday Cheryl!
Keywords: Happy Birthday!
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:06:53 GMT

Today is my bestfriend's birthday.  Will you help me celebrate her
birthday by calling and wishing her a happy 20th birthday!
Thanks!

	Phone: 1-217-355-8023		Her Roommate,
					    Becky

Newsgroups: soc.singles