From: lib1p@rosie.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Newsgroups: alt.native
Subject: Re: A New Dawn?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:50 CST
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>Acee Agoyo (agoyo1@athena.mit.edu) wrote:
>: In article <18JAN199313153371@jane.uh.edu>, lib1p@jane.uh.edu
>:  (Tammy Stark Blandino) writes:
>> JUST STOP IT!!!!!
>> 
>> Enough of this fucking bullshit!
>> 
>> As long as people expect to find prejudice they will find it
>> whether it is real or not.  If you want to have open dialogue then get 
>> the damn chip off
>> your sholder.  If you want to throw a temper tantrum go somewhere
>> else.
>> 
>> Our society (and I am referring to all human beings living on the
>> continent
>> currently referred to as Americas) does not have time nor is
>> benefited by
>> such childish meanderings.  
>> 
>> Show your people some honor and GROW UP!

: Please refrain from yelling and expletive imperatives.  The only person who
: has thrown a temper tantrum thus far has been you, Tammy.  

I see that you do not judge your own actions by the same standard that you
judge others.....*sigh*


: And far from
: childish have been the comments; on the contrary, they are based on facts
: and psychological/historical references, which are very real even today.

It is not your facts that I was referring to .... it was your childish 
display that un-nerved me enough to speak out as I did.  It was not the
exchange of ideas supported by fact....but the tantrum of a child who
has a giant chip on his sholder and must make sure that all the world
knows that it is there .... challenging by sarcastic statements of
"excusing" for not "knowing his own history" and "teaching" of it by
someone who "is more knowledgable on the subject"..... 

This particular outburst was a disgrace.....


: Do not speak when the words only serve to attack a person, rather than a
: statement or idea.  

I was not attempting to attack you.....I was trying to knock that chip off....

And by the way.....if you truly believe that one should speak only to attack
statements or ideas and not people.....then you should go back and look
at what you posted....I do believe that you are making a hippocrite of 
yourself.


: 
: And finally, do not ever explain or attempt to understand honor and what it
: means to myself and "my people" (whatever you mean by such a phrase). 
: Your statement is exactly what I was arguing against:  ignorance and
: assumption of ideas.  I would _never_ ever tell another person to show 
: honor to a "people"
: or "person" about which I know nothing.  

How the hell do you get the nerve to tell ME what I KNOW and DON'T KNOW about!

Do you know me....do you know my background....do you know the circles
I associate with....do you know the religion I practice.....

NO!....you don't!

Now you are the one making assumptions.....


: I can understand your frustration

No you don't...you don't know anything about me....

You don't know what it is to be spit upon because your white and then spit
upon because your a "nigger lover" (any other race can be substituted...I've
heard them all).  

More assumptions Acee.....


: and the need to express your emotions, but please do it in a way as
: not to  contradict yourself.  


Before you start instructing me perhaps you should take a long hard look
at yourself first.....I have (at myself)....not only is it uncomfortable,
but it also quite enlightening.....

I challenge thee......

Tammy