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                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     07-Oct-1992 11:21am DST
                                        From:     Anita F. Colyer
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Subject: southern comfort/haggis

Scott:

Maybe Liam's confusion over the exact ingredients of haggis results from too
liberal an application of Southern Comfort.  (My drink of choice, as
well--Cheers, Liam!)

;-)

Anita
From: C47805NF@WUVMD.WUSTL.EDU (Rick Francis)
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Date: 13 Oct 92 04:10:11 GMT
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Back when I was in a department in a university which shall remain
nameless, the dep't chair was rather portly man, to put it most
kindly.  A joke which seemed funny at the time:  one of the foreign
grad students, after meeting him, declared that "sofa" was a far
more appropriate word than "chair".

Maybe it was her delivery...

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Rick Francis  C47805NF@WUVMD      |  * Average percentage change in the
Dep't of Comparative Literature,  |  * GNP during each four-year Democratic
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                                  |  * during each four-year Republican
                                  |  * administration:  -9
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                                  |  * From Harper's Index, August 1992.
                                  |  * Source cited:  Standard & Poor's (NYC)
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From:         "(Ens Alexander W Ellermann)" <ellerman@NORFOLK.NADN.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: re: _Hero_

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> From CX935C%GWUVM.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:36:55 EDT
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>               8 Oct 1992 13:44:39 EST from <BILL.FELTY@UKWANG.UKY.EDU>
>
> I saw Hero and I really thought that it was well done. I really liked
> Dustin Hoffman in it. One thought I had about this movie is how much it
> reminded me of a Gary Cooper movie by the name of "Meet John Doe"
> Did hero remind anyone else of this movie?
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The _Washington Post_ movie critic made the same connection.
                                                -Alex
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From:         "(John Smyth)" <eeijsh@EEIUC.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject:      WAR!!!

The B.B.C. is currently running a series of documentaries
and movies dealing with different aspects of war. Last
Saturday night, "Oh, What a Lovely War" and "Paths of
Glory" were shown (as a double bill) as part of this
series. I didn't manage to see Kubrick's "Paths of Glory",
but I was very impressed by Richard Attenborough's
"Oh, What a Lovely War". It examines World War One
through the songs that were popular at that time.
The movie is set in a carnival called World War One
and, as we are introduced to each side-show, it provides a
link to some aspect of the war. For example, a puppet of
a French cavalry officer gives a jaunty little speech in
a puppet-theatre. The next scene shows a group of (real)French
cavalry, at the front, about to mount a charge at enemy
lines.
       A stark contrast is made between the jaunty upbeat
ditties about joining up, wearing the uniform, beating the
Hun etc and the consequences of these songs (or rather the
message contained within). The glamour of the fighting soldier
is celebrated in the songs and shows in the carnival scenes
and clinically debunked in the battle scenes.
                     I'm not describing this movie  very well
but it's a very affecting anti-war movie. The cast included
John Mills, John Gielgud and Laurence Olivier.
                            John
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From:         GEORGE RAISER <ST402234@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Speilberg - JAWS

I just saw JAWS again the other night.  It seems that the direction of
this movie couldn't have been better, and the soundtrack was extremely
effective.  Do people think that S. Speilberg should have won the Academy
for best director for this work?  If you try to forget all of the
terrible movies made after it that tried to play on this action/horror
genre and remember its novelty, you could make a point for this.  I mean,
I had a hard time going swimming for quite a while after this movie, and
you can't grant other movies a similar affect.  A lot of it had to do with
S.S.'s direction, IMHO.  Anyone else agree?
---George
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From:         SCHIBERG@MOREKYPR.BITNET
Subject:      more Laurie stuff

Just in case there are other deprived and depraved F and L fans out
there, I heard that in some markets in the US the second series of
Jeeves and Wooster will be shown on Masterpiece Theater.  Get those
VCRs ready!  I love Whose Line is it Anyway, BTW, and I will
keep my eyes open for other British comedy sketch reviews
a la Secret Policeman.

Susan
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Hi all,

    Just wanted to let you know, I got a copy of the VP review,
from Louis (thanks) and I've forwarded it to Dick also.

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* Michelle Lehman                 |           michelle@ortta.umn.edu *
* University of Minnesota         |                  Minneapolis, MN *
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From: GWILLIAM@UGA.BITNET (Gayle Williams)
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I was very saddened to hear the report of Denholm Elliott's passing.  He
has long been a favorite character actor of mine.  His role in Peter
Bogdanovich's "Saint Jack" is the first that interested me in him.  I
thereafter discovered him in later productions and some earlier as Alfie.

I'm providing a filmography taken from Motion Picture Players' Credits and
Motion Picture Almanac.

Dear Mr. Prohack 1949
The Sound Barrier 1952
The Holly and the Ivy 1952
The Ringer 1952
The Cruel Sea 1953
The Heart of the Matter 1953
They Who Dare 1954
Lease of Life 1954
The Man Who Loved Redheads 1954
The Night My Number Came Up 1955
Pacific Destiny 1956
Scent of Mystery 1959
Station Six-Sahara 1963
Nothing But the Best 1964
The High Bright Sun 1965
You Must Be Joking! 1965
King Rat 1965
Alfie 1966
The Spy with a Cold Nose 1966
Maroc 7 1966
Here We Go Round the Mulberry Bush 1967
The Night They Raided Minsky's 1968
THe Seagull 1968
Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde 1968 (TV)
Too Late the Hero 1969
The Rise and Rise of Michael Rimmer 1970
The House That Dripped Blood 1970
Percy 1970
Quest for Love 1971
The Wild Duck 1971 (TV)
Madame Sin 1972
The Vault of Horror 1973
A Doll's House 1973
The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz 1974
Percy's Progress 1974
Russian Roulette 1975
To the Devil a Daughter 1975
The Last Chapter 1975
Robin and Marian 1976
Voyage of the Damned 1976
Partners 1976
A Bridge Too Far 1976
Sweeney 2 1977
The Hound of the Baskervilles 1978
La petite fille en velours bleu 1978
The Boys from Brazil 1978
Watership Down (voice) 1978
Saint Jack 1979
Cuba 1979
Game for Vultures 1979
Zulu Dawn 1979
Rising Damp 1979
Illusions 1980
Sunday Lovers 1980
Raiders of the Lost Ark 1981
Brimstone and Treacle 1982
The Missionary 1982
The Wicked Lady 1983
The Hound of the Baskervilles 1983
Trading Places 1983
The Razor's Edge 1984
A Private Function 1984
A Room with a View 1985
Defence of the Realm 1985
Maurice 1987
The Happy Valley (TV) 1987
September 1987
The Bourne Identity 1988 (TV)
Stealing Heaven
Return from the River Kwai
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade
Killing Dad
Bleak House (TV)
Marco Polo (TV)
Camille (TV)
Hotel du Lac (TV)
Mrs. Delafield Wants to Marry (TV)
A Child's Christmas in Wales (TV)
Noble House (TV)
Code Name: Kyril (TV)
Keys to Freedom (TV)
Bangkok Hilton (TV)


Sorry for the lack of dates on the latter.  This is probably not complete so
feel free to make additions.
Gayle Williams
University of Georgia Libraries
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When did he die?

-scott
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Subject:      Re: re:unforgiven why clint can shoot straight

And, don't forget what periods of high stress jor anger will do to people.
(Mothers lifting cars off their children...etc.) I think he was mad
enough that he didn't have to think about shooting straight...it just happened.
Paul.
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Subject:      Re: Irish Music

Dan:  Just consulted a guy in the office who is the world's biggest
ENYA fan, and he says, YES, he believes ENYA's music is Irish.  He says
our boss, another ENYA enthusiast has a video of her's that depicts '
nothing but the beautiful scenery of Ireland.  (Our boss managed to got
there for a combined business and pleasure trip last spring.)  Both guys
are gone on this woman's music.  And after hearing so much of it here in
the office, I guess I kinda like it too.  But, there's no way I'm telling
my co-worker.  He hates Big Band music and I have no respect for anyone
who doesn't recognize the genius of Glen Miller and Benny Goodman.

Adrian
Clemson
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From:         "(John Smyth)" <eeijsh@EEIUC.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject:      Speilberg

I loved JAWS and CE3K but my favourite
Speilberg movie is "Empire of the Sun".
Great action, great imagery and strong
acting (even from Nigel Havers). Having
such a young actor in the central role
was a risk but I think Christan Bales (?)
performed magniificently.
 Actually, "1941" was a good laugh too...

                    John
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What I gather is the European version of BASIC INSTINCT is due to be released
on laserdisc next April, along with commentary by the director Paul Verhoeven.
Extra-expensive package, naturally....  Jeff Clark
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From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Mann...

>From: Maroy Akos <JZK2115@HUSZEG11.BITNET>
>
>Yes, Michael Mann is responsible for Manhunter as well.
>As for a TV series, about gangsters in Las Vegas, things like that. I forgot
>the title, but the title song was 'Runaway', a '50-s classic song.

The series was called _Crime Story_.
					Liam.
					====-

                                   *"Attractive woman. How old would
     KERR AVON    |   Work: ICL,   *   you say she was, Sybil?"
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                                   *   Perhaps she's twelve."
     "I belong to Glasgow..."      *         -- Basil & Sybil Fawlty
From: EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET (Ellen.Edgerton)
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> brides aren't just standing around; they actually rape Harker--when I read
> that, it filled my child's heart with enthusiasm.
>

Sounds like his "child's heart" is pretty sick, to me.  Just my HO.
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Subject:      Re: Speilberg - JAWS

I agree totally, I had a hard time swimming in Table Rock Lake for about
two years. (You must remember, when this came out I was all of five or six)...
Did this movie win any awards at all? It definitely should have.
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Subject:      Re: Sneakers

I rather liked Sneakers.  I will admit to being a sucker for any
movie or tv show that uses computers the way this one did, but I
thought the movie did a pretty good job of creating suspense and
tension, with a nice levening of humor.  Actually, I had forgotten
that Robert Redford has a nice touch with humor.
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Dick:  If you ever turned from reviewing to writing, you'd be a very
dangerous man!  Your creativity and amazing ability to boil down our
nebulous feelings while watching the debate into a boisterously funny
piece of satire had my entire office rolling on our uniformly brown
carpets.  Everyone asked me to convey their gratitude and admiration.
Since our unit is faced with stifling budget cuts and possible layoffs,
laughs have been very hard to come by, that is until we read your piece.
Keep up the good work, and please don't let us down during the upcoming
presidential debates.  If this isn't your best work, I can't wait to
see what you have in store!

Adrian
Clemson
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Subject:      Hero

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     08-Oct-1992 08:42am DST
                                        From:     Anita F. Colyer
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Subject: Hero

Michel asked if anybody has seen any good movies lately.  I went to see Hero
this week and liked it a lot (oops--I realize I'm slipping out of appropriate
"cinema criticism-ese"--does whether I "liked" it matter?).

Very good performances turned in by Geena Davis, Dustin Hoffman, and Andy
Garcia (I think that's his name), and an amusing caricature done by Chevy
Chase.  The themes of the film are an interesting blend of commentary on the
news media and the nature of their interaction with the public:  the ethics (or
lack of same) of the media, the "star-making" power of the media, the impact of
"good news," and some interesting insights on the nature of heroism.

If you've seen the previews, you know the plot:  Dustin Hoffman, down on his
luck, just happens to be driving along in his beat-up jalopy, and he ends up
saving the 50-some people who are passengers in an airplane that crashes
directly in front of his car.  Aboard the plane there just happens to be a TV
news reporter (Geena Davis) who is carried out of the burning plane by Hoffman;
Hoffman subsequently disappears into the anonymity of the night.  The story, of
course, receives extensive TV coverage, and the station Davis works for offers
a one million dollar reward to "The Angel of Flight 104."  The story unfolds
from there.

Has anyone else out there seen this movie?  If so, what did you think?

Anita
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Subject:      Joycean Rump-kissing

Somehow it just didn't seem right not to point out that in _Ulysses_,
Leopold Bloom is fond of his wife's mellow smellow moons.  I believe
some sort of osculation is implied.

Yup, the movie I was thinking of was "The Miracle."

What did you all think of "Bob Roberts"?  I like the Bob Dylan allusions
and all, and I welcome any attempt to do intelligent political satire,
but it seemed a bit obvious to me, a bit too self-evident, as Auguste
Dupin might say.

Speaking of politics...
Debate frenzy is winding up here, since our university is hosting the first
one.  Made for a nice topic for my language class.  Ross Perot made for an
excellent use of the subjunctive in dependent clauses when     the main clause
expresses doubt.

Too bad no one touched the one about painting the Parthenon.  I liked it.
M. Kerbel?  j-man?  Do we colorize that past or not?

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Rick Francis  C47805NF@WUVMD      |  *  Campaign contributions George Bush
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Box 1107                          |  *  later appointed to ambassadorships:
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From: eeijsh@EEIUC.ERICSSON.SE ((John Smyth))
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Subject: FAVOURITE MOVIES
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:58:28 GMT
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A couple of my all-time favourites :

Lady in the lake : (dir Robert Montgomery) - a typical
Chandler story (laconic hero, glamorous woman as #1 suspect,
more twists and turns than a George Bush speech)

The Third Man   : (dir Carol Reed:starring Joe Cotten,Orson Welles)
Every element of movie-making came together perfectly for this
movie : Music, direction, setting, script and about the best
cameo role you'll ever see (Orson Welles)

Double Indemnity : (dir ??: starring Fred McMurray,Barbara Stanwyck
                   ( & Edward G. Robinson)
A classic tale of desire,greed and double-cross from the pen of
Raymond Chandler.

Tampopo : (dir ??: starring ??)
A Japanese movie (subtitled) that celebrates food with humour
and some impressive imagery.

Das Boot : (dir ??: starring Jurgen Prochnow)

A U-boat crew struggle to stay alive in the North Atlantic,
battling with the elements and the enemy above in this
realistic (subtitled) production. This movie captures
the fear, the claustrophobia and the bravery without
a hint of glamour.
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>Everyone asked me to convey their gratitude and admiration...
>laughs have been very hard to come by, until we read your piece...
>Keep up the good work, and please don't let us down...
>I can't wait to see what you have in store...
>Dick, don't'cha dare stop writing these things...

Sheeesh. Are we putting a little pressure on this guy, or what?

kjf-
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Subject:      Re: Allegedly sexist Best Picture movies

>  I'm probably going to regret getting involved in this in the morning, but
>may I suggest that finding sexism everywhere has about the same effect as
>finding it nowhere?  Either way, one is liable to miss the really egregious
>offenses (like slasher films) and let others pass that should not go
>unchallenged (like Thelma and Louise, which by Michael Kerbel's criteria is at
>least as sexist as anything else on the Best Picture list).
>  The more concise and less polite way of putting this is to say that IMO,
>Michael probably wouldn't recognize a sexist movie if it sneaked up behind
>him and bit him on the rump.
>                                          Rob Rosenthal
>

If I can quote two very sexist guys, Wayne and Garth,

           "Good call my friend."

Joe Daus   U of MO-Columbia
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I would like to ditto this request.  I shared the VP debate review with
my co-workers and now they are all calling me bad names because I
accidentally killed out the presidential debate review.  Will someone
please help me save my skin and eliminate chaos in my office by sending
me a copy of the first post?

Adrian (ambly@clust1.clemson.edu.bitnet)
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 05:45:49 -0500
From:         PARADOX@DEPAUW.BITNET
Subject:      Re: LANGUAGE AND P.C.

<<>I mean, what do YOU call a woman who is leader of an organisation
<<>if not CHAIRPERSON? Surely not CHAIRMAN!
<<
<<Call me crazy, but "-SON" strikes me as just as sexually specific as "-MAN".
<<Chairperdaughters of the nation, rise and march! (Or is it "rise and month"?)
<<
<<How about "chair-organism"? Or better yet, "chair-stuff"?
<<Now *that's* equality.

"Chaircreature" and "chairthing" can be heard within the confines of my
department, whose inhabitants are, perhaps, best kept confined.
Somehow, "chairentity" never caught on.

Louis Smogor <paradox@depauw.bitnet>
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