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From: "Paul Hager" <hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: poem
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:51:05 -0500


I'm posting this for someone who is experiencing editor/mailer
problems.

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This poem is about a strange encouter a foaf had with one of this groups
favorite people.  I hope you all enjoy the poem.  May it bring a smile to
the group....  Greg Webb


I met up with George my friend.
We diagreed before, but I'd make amends.

I told him of another Bush I knew.
I even showed him were it grew.

He was impressed by size and beauty.
I told him what now was our duty.

I sat him down to have a toke
of this fine herb I prepared to smoke.

His first attempt to take a hit
had ended up instead a spit.

I told him you must try again.
At this he took a big one in.

I thought he'd hold it for a year.
He had a smile from ear to ear.

His face was red from that large toke,
And suddenly there he spoke.

"The deficit, the deficit! I understand!
Why this great country still can stand".

"I'll find a cure for povery,
and lead the cause of liberty".

"Sadam and I can still be friends,
this stupid war, I'll put an end".

"Democracy, Democracy!
Why, it's about you and me".

"I must go tell my old friend Baker
I'll smoke with you some time later".

And this my children is how I saved
This beautiful world we had almost paved.


          Greg Webb
          8/28/92

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-- 
paul hager		hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu

"The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason."
			-- Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:15050 alt.war:1855
From: chf0@newshost.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.war
Subject: Re: Amphetamines in Gulf War (was Re: Vikings etc.)
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:47:29 GMT
Reply-To: chf0@gte.com
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

In article <1992Aug25.195518.4107@nntp.hut.fi>, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
|> In article <1447@ceylon.gte.com>, chf0@newshost (Curtis Fennell) writes:
|> >In article <1992Aug20.162011.21930@nntp.hut.fi>, jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
|> >|> Other drugs such as alcohol,
|> >|> cannabis and opiates apparently are widely available on bases, though
|> >|> admittedly for recreational purposes rather than "rage" purposes.
|> >
|> >Alcohol is widely available, but cannabis and opiates are not (at
|> >least, not any more).
|> 
|> Says who?  I remember reading about at least one and vaguely about
|> several storries in mainstream media about how widespread drug use is
|> in U.S. military bases abroad, like in Europe.  Now, it might not be
|> necessarily provided by the base and legal like alcohol, but that
|> doesn't make it nonexistent.

Says me.  But what I said was that it was "not widely available";
I didn't say that it was nonexistent.  In the "post-Vietnam" era, the
military became very sensitive to the drug problem and began random
urinalysis of *all* military personnel.  

As another poster pointed out, the average military person can expect
to be tested randomly 2-3 times a year - more if they are in a
sensitive position.  I don't know about the other services, but in the
Marine Corps, if you are E-4 or below (corporal or below), you get one
chance - if you get caught once, you are put in a drug rehab program.
If you get caught again, you're out.

If you are an E-5 or above (Sergeant or above), and you get caught
once you're out.  That goes for *everyone*.  

During my six years in the Marine Corps, I personally was involved in
*two* substance abuse cases: one was alcohol and the other was
cannabis.  Both individuals were discharged.

|> //Jyrki

-- 
Curt Fennell			* chf0@gte.com
Unix System Administrator	* (617) 466-2142
GTE Labs, 40 Sylvan Road	* "Get down off that cross!
Waltham, MA, 02254		*  Somebody needs the wood"
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lintz@fred.cis.udel.edu (Brian Lintz)
Subject: Re: Timothy Leary on Comedy Central
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:02:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug29.214030.20907@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (technobabblist, m.d.) writes:
>
>Timothy Leary's dead...no, no, he's outside....
>
>If you haven't seen it yet, there's a really *great* commercial
>appearing on Comedy Central with Timothy Leary in it....It shows Leary
>on, like, a hill or something, in a jacket, and the camera circles
>around him as the famous Beatles song about him plays in the
>background.... 
>
>Then he says something like "I'm Timothy Leary and I'm not dead", and
>the screen fades to black and says "Yet."...and then a screen of text
>says "We all die, eventually.  Watch Comedy Central", which seems to
>be their ad camaign these days....

I saw a different commercial with Leary on Comedy Central. He says
something like "I'm Timothy Leary and when I die I'm going to have
my brain frozen, to be revived when science can build me a new
body. But one thing's for sure; I'm not going to be brought back
in a Republican administration." And then the familar text, "We're
all going to die. Watch Comedy Central."

Brian Lintz
lintz@udel.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Paper prints misleading article about "drug tattoos"
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 14:28:44 GMT


One thing:  it's quite possible that at some point someone confused a
"pencil eraser sized" piece of blotter with a "lick and stick" tattoo.
Think about it--licking the tattoo would be enough to get you going
if you licked the right side.


Aside from that, I agree completely; it's a total myth, and I was amazed
to see it in the local paper.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
                 Love is blind, Love can tell a million stories
                   Love's unkind, spiteful in a million ways
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:15203 alt.politics.marrou:960
From: larry@cs.com (Larry Spence)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: DMT
Date: 29 Aug 92 07:39:15 GMT
Followup-To: alt.toad-skins
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computer Support Corporation,  Dallas,Texas

In article <8Fw5PB3w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> scotc.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:
>I am doing some research for school, 

Uh huh.

>what is the most frequently used
>source of DMT for people in the United States?

Edmund Scientific usually has good cheap DMT, but rumor has it that their
stuff is cut with strychnine.  

-- 
Larry Spence
larry@cs.com
uunet!csccat!larry or sun!texsun!csccat!larry
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:15126 soc.culture.usa:6964 talk.politics.drugs:6014
From: matthieu@sun3.lri.fr (Matthieu Fontaine)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Satanic Crime units?? Re: WoD: Frontline Report
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:37:59 GMT
Reply-To: matthieu@sun3.lri.fr (Matthieu Fontaine)
Organization: LRI - Univ. Paris-Sud / CNRS URA 410

In article <1992Aug26.230019.12990@dscomsf.desy.de>,
hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:

|> There is actually a serious problem in the UK with "satanism"
|> hysteria which is
|> used to persecute adherents of Wyker. This can lead to childeren
|> being taken
                     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Sorry, but I've never heard of these people : Who are they?

|> into care, bogus allegations of child abuse being made and various other
|> unpleasantries. Of course when such things go on there is always the
|> idea about
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unproved ? Just allegations?

|> that the accusations would not be made without their being some truth
|> in them,
|> this is nieve and underestimates the spitefulness of human nature.
|> One case in
|> Orkney was indistinguishable from a which hunt.
|> 
|> 
|> --
|> 
|> Phill Hallam-Baker

-- 

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"La realite est malpropre."
			Benoit Mandelbrot
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: carnes@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Richard Carnes)
Subject: Re: Definition of an addict.
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:08:08 GMT

al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Polewka) writes:

>>I don't know the sources of funding for these studies,.............
>
>It's surprising what some people will do when their purse strings are
>tied to the government.

Yes, you'd be amazed.  Some people even do careful, honest research,
heaven knows why.

Assuming for the sake of argument that the numerous studies from
different research groups in the US and UK (at least) that have
consistently found that a large proportion of addicted people outgrow
their problem without treatment were all mostly government-funded, I'm
still trying to figure out what government funding has to do with this
conclusion.

Richard Carnes
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:15234 talk.politics.drugs:6057 comp.infosystems.gopher:343
From: boone@convex.cl.msu.edu (Dennis Boone)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,comp.infosystems.gopher
Subject: Re: A gopher server for drugs information at otax.tky.hut.fi
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:09:16 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, East Lansing

In article <1992Aug29.201254.11209@nntp.hut.fi> jkp@cs.HUT.FI (Jyrki Kuoppala) writes:
>Here's info on gopher:
>
>----------------------------------------
>This is the University of Minnesota Computer & Information Services
>Gopher Consultant service.
...
>     Dr. Science
>         "I'm not a real doctor;  I have a Master's Degree....  in SCIENCE!"
>
>:-) :-) :-) :-)
>There's always room for a little humor in a FAQ..
>----------------------------------------
>
>//Jyrki

I think we've all seen the FAQ enough times in one day now.  Please stop
including it in every message.  

Dennis
--
 == If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice. ==
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: marc@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Marc Schroeder)
Subject: Long term effects of 'shrooms?
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: University of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:04:22 GMT

Lately there have been many threads concerning the long term effects of
LSD. However, I haven't seen any discussion of the long term effects of
psilocybin/'shrooms, either in the postings or in a faq.

Any comments?

  Marc.

-- 

--
Marc A. Schroeder,            marc@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
The University of Calgary, Canada, Computer Science
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cklausme@jarthur.claremont.edu (Chris Klausmeier)
Subject: Re: Hoffman book
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:31:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.054402.10620@menudo.uh.edu> st1o5@Rosie.UH.EDU writes:

# Could someone tell me again where to find that copy of "LSD, My Problem
# Child" by Hoffman?  

Sure! Here's the output from a quick archie:

-- Chris

Host ftp.uu.net

    Location: /doc/literary/obi/A.Hofmann
      FILE      -rw-r--r--     140417  Aug 11  1991  probchild.Z

Host life.slhs.udel.edu

    Location: /pub
      FILE      -rw-r--r--        315  Aug 13  1991  probchild-README

Host unix.hensa.ac.uk

    Location: /pub/uunet/doc/literary/obi/A.Hofmann
      FILE      -rw-r--r--     140417  Aug 11  1991  probchild.Z

Host world.std.com

    Location: /obi/A.Hofmann
      FILE      -rw-rw-r--     140417  Aug 11  1991  probchild.Z

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Fort Wayne: Landlords Must Evict Drug-Dealing Tenants
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:35:26 GMT

In article <=0an3_r.feustel@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:

   >August 25, 1992

   >The Fort Wayne, IN.  City Council is voting tonight on an ordinance
   >providing for fines to be levied against landlords who do not evict
   >tenants after the city sends the landlord a letter asserting that drugs
   >are being sold in said tenants' apartment. The amount of the proposed
   >fines is to range from $500 to $2500/day.

Oh, great.  So now the landlords get to choose between being fined a
lot of money or being killed by angry drug-dealing tenants that don't
want to be convicted.  Great idea :(
From: honig@aster.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: Long term effects of 'shrooms?
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:13:08 GMT

 marc@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Marc Schroeder) writes:
>Lately there have been many threads concerning the long term effects of
>LSD. However, I haven't seen any discussion of the long term effects of
>psilocybin/'shrooms, either in the postings or in a faq.
>
>Any comments?
>
>  Marc.
>
>--
>
>--
>Marc A. Schroeder,            marc@cpsc.ucalgary.ca
>The University of Calgary, Canada, Computer Science


You will find granola-heads and acid purists who disagree, but shrooms
(psilocybin containing fungi) are really quite similar to lsd, only lasting
half as long, and being available for tens of thousands of years more.  To
no apparent detriment (and reported benefit) to their consumers.



--
David "Dances with Motion Sensors" Honig

"Will future farmers panic when their silos overflow?"
	-Me, after crashing too many workstations...
From: jjf@cats.ucsc.edu (Jeffrey John Furman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: MAOI & shrooms
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:59:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


In Terrance McKenna's book "Food of the Gods" he mentions the possible
use of Pegnanum Harmala seeds in combinations with Psilocybe mushrooms.
In the Natural highs Faq it says that there possibly some orally 
inactive compounds in mushrooms, that (at least I think) could be activated
by an MAO inhibitor like harmaline.  But in the same FAQ it talks about
the dangers of mixing about anything with an MAOI, with possible side
effects like DEATH.  Can anyone tell me if trying this combination
is a wise move?

Thanks,
JJ
 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,misc.legal,talk.politics.drugs
From: "Paul Hager" <hagerp@moose.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Fort Wayne: Landlords Must Evict Drug-Dealing Tenants
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 00:01:19 -0500

RE: David's letter.

Right fucking on!  (Pardon my expletive)

-- 
paul hager		hagerp@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu

"The most formidable weapon against errors of every kind is reason."
			-- Thomas Paine, _The Age of Reason_
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:15193 talk.politics.drugs:6036
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: Marijuana for Paper
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:25:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

In <1992Aug31.054306.23487@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling) writes:
>Does anybody know anything about this. It sounds pretty far out, but also entirely
>possible considering the way the US seems to run. If it is true it is pretty worrying
>that something like this is occuring while we are destroying the forests of the world
>for no real reason.

This is all documented at some length in a book called _The Emperor Wears No
Clothes_ by Jack Herer, founder of H.E.M.P (Help End Marijuana Prohibition).
When Jello spoke at Bradley University, he straight out explained that most
of his Pot commentary was straight from the book, and as a proud owner of a
copy, I can say that's quite correct.

I haven't gone through and double checked all the references, so of course
it is subject to any bias Jack may have had while researching the book, but
over half the book is copies of sources he used, so I'm willing to give him
the benefit of the doubt.

You can get the book for about $13 from HEMP, but unfortunately I don't have
an address here with me.  I'll try to follow this up with an address later
if no one beats me to the punch.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
    AHA!  I'll bounce off that broad, flat surface and be in a lot of pain!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.drugs
From: guido@island.COM (Guido Marx)
Subject: Re: Satanic Crime units?? Re: WoD: Frontline Report
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.  San Rafael, Ca.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:12:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.211709.12199@amhux2.amherst.edu> pfcouvar@amhux1.amherst.edu (Peter Couvares) writes:
>	I'm pro-God, and I don't think you should be allowed to discuss
>the merits or even the alternative of satan-loving on a network that is
>partially government-funded.

Yes, Satan forbid that we should have freedom of speech on a 
government sponsered network.  Sheesh.  

Guido
From: machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: REWARD: Turn in your neighbor !
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:24:47 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore) writes:

>In article <bigstar.715374929@milton> bigstar@milton.u.washington.edu (Paschel) writes:
>>
>>This morning, as I was sitting down to my morning cup of juice, I happened
>>upon an ad in the Seattle PI.  In the back of the local section (9/1/92),
>>is an ad offering a reward of up to $5,000 for info leading to the seizure
>>of growing marijuana plants. 
>>
>>		1-800-388-GROW  (that's 4769 for us idiots)
>>		1-800-388-4769
>
>Is tihs "for real"? I just dialed in the number and got something like
>"State Patrol Emergency"..... I hung up    =0

yes, it's "for real".  the ad was sponsored by the Department of 
Justice/DEA and the Washington State Patrol.  what better agency 
to take reports of marijuana growing operations than the WSP?
that way they can send the stormtroopers over right away.

-- 
 /'''   The Machman     machman@milton.u.washington.edu    david c carroll
 c-OO                                                                      
    \                     "Big Science.  Hallelujah"
   -                                                                       
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Question about LSD (Microdot)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:05:09 GMT

bowman@reed.edu (Eric Bowman (bobo)) writes:
: Boy, try and make a joke around here...
: 
: I was the original poster, dammit.  And, dmm@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu clear
: things up.  See the semicolon?

I saw it, and it was pretty obvious that the posting was not serious. That
is why I did not comment on it.

: >dmm@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (donald) writes:
: >: : >>very much, and heat, light, finger oil, etc. etc.  tend to turn it into
: >: : >>strychnine! ;
:                    ^<<<---the semicolon
: 
: That semicolon represented the eye of the sarcastic smiley.
: For the humor impaired, this is the sarcastic smiley:
: 
: ;-)

Hopefully, the original posting did not have just the semi-colon. It looks
like a typo - especially to someone who takes everything seriously.

: See how it's winking at you?
: 
: There.  That wasn't so bad, now was it.
: 
: >Why? Some people get tired of the same old myths and legends being posted
: >as fact.
: 
: What about jokes?  Can we make jokes?  Please?

I was not commenting about your joke. I enjoyed it. I was responding to the
person who told the poster who didn't catch the joke to "lighten up".

Bill
From: atom.grams@betabbs.newton.ma.us (Atom Grams) 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: MARIJUANA FOR PAPER
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:18:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Beta BBS -=- Newton MA -=- (617)244-7053
Reply-To: atom.grams@betabbs.newton.ma.us (Atom Grams) 

-> Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
-> From: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
-> Subject: Marijuana for Paper
-> Message-ID: <1992Aug31.054306.23487@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>
-> Reply-To: chuck@spectrum.cs.unsw.oz.au (Mark Andrew Hawling)
-> Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 05:43:06 GMT
->
-> This has probably come up here before, but the other day when I was
-> listening t Jello Biafra's spoken word album "I blow minds for a
-> living", he made mention of some information regarding the use of
-> marijuana plants for paper production other uses.
->
-> He uses information from a US department of agriculture report where
-> it states like a certain area of marijuana plants is 4 times as
-> productive for paper prod as the same area from trees as well as
-> requiring less chemicals to break it dow into paper. Also plants take
-> a lot less time to grow back so they can be harves The plants also
-> have other uses like the production of ethanol.
-> Apparently in the past before marijuana was outlawed in the US in
-> about 1936, i the major source of paper and was required to be grown
-> by farmers of the time. WW2 apparently it was being used again for
-> various things including George Bush parachute.
->
-> The reasons why it was actually outlawed are considered to be
-> several. These in the political clout of the tobacco compaines. Also
-> medicinal uses for certain m drugs played a roll because you can't
-> patent a natural medicine only one chemic produced. So at the time
-> Dupont had developed some patented medical process whi was found to
-> be uneccessary because the same medicine could be derived naturall
-> marijuana plants. So as Dupont had considerable polotical clout and
-> other compa made a bill get passed that outlawed marijuana. Now the
-> whole war on drugs is k all knowledge of the uses hidden.
->
-> Does anybody know anything about this. It sounds pretty far out, but
-> also entir possible considering the way the US seems to run. If it is
-> true it is pretty wo that something like this is occuring while we
-> are destroying the forests of the for no real reason.
->
-> chuck

        I like the idea and it does make sense because the plant
material of hemp is very strong ie used for rope.  I personally have
never heard of this but it could be easily tested if the government
would take a more objective view of the situation.  In general there's
to much money involved for paper manufactures and woodmills for this to
happen.  I'm positive the information exists but has been ignored.  It
seems it would make rolling a joint alot easier but kids in school
allready eat way to much paper in my opinion.

        Atom Grams