From: shao@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHAO CHUNG-SHANG)
Subject: Re: DATA: largest world economies
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:28:36 GMT

In article <CNS=Lf#@engin.umich.edu> echang@engin.umich.edu writes:
>
>	Their interpretation will base on what they percieve.
>The perception is mainly from Taiwan government and people of Taiwan. 
>It is our goverment and citizen's job to show that we don't represent China;
>we represent Taiwan.  We want China to leave us alone.

no.  their interpretations are based on their national interests.  listen to
the american politians, they always say american interests, not what other
people's perception.

>We need international friends to help us not only in the invasion but also
>in joining the international society.

no interest no friend.  it does not matter what kind of trouble we are in.
no country will spend their citizens' lives and money on other country
without receiving benifits.

>	Everyone knows there is only one China, PRC. 
>	The key is both ROC and PRC use the name China, and there is only
>one China.   Again, the interpretation of other countries are based on their
>perception of Taiwan.  It was Taiwan government that gave wrong preception that
>we wanted to represent China.  The fact is we represent Taiwan! 
>Nothing more nothing less.

there is one main difference between your statement and mine.  you think if we
claim something new, we can receive better attitudes from other countries.
i simply can not agree with this.  just ask one question, if there is a war
between usa and canada, will you suggest our millitary force or economic
force to help one of them?  if yes, why?  for justice?  no, i don't think so.
so, the key is not the name.  if we are strong enough, we can call ourselves 
as what we want.  but, the fact is we are not strong enough.  or i should
say we can not give other countries enough interests to attract them
listening what we say.
other countries will not only listen to what we say, they listen to what
their interests say.

>The use of ROC gives wrong intrepretation and confuses the international
>society.

seriously doubt about this.  every foriegn government knows the relation
between mainland and taiwan well, that is why we can buy advance fighters
only until now.  because we can give them enough interests to do this.
if we are strong enough, roc can represent us well, there will be no
confusion.

>	Ask your American friends if they perceive you as a citizen 
>from Taiwan, or ROC in your case.  That's what "represent" means.
>Olympic atheletes are all proud of "representing" their own countries.

that depends on how you tell your friends.  americans have poorer internation
knowledges, generally.  officially, americans call us people from taiwan,
because taiwan is not a name of a country.

>	How do you feel when our Olympic baseball team got a sliver medal,
>and the flag you saw was not representing us?  How I wished people around the
>world at that time could've known without confusion that it was a team came 
>from TAIWAN!!!

be honest, i feel bad.  but, remember the truth, in olympic, even taiwan
can not be mentioned.  the name we use is chinese taipei.  why?  so,
should we change our name as republic of taipei?  and change the olympic
flag as our new national flag?  therefore, we can say there will be no
confusion that we are people from taipei, and our flag is on the field.

another question is if we change our national name, other countries are
still away from us.  should we change another name and try again?  such
as repulic of island?

cs shao.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.taiwan:16274 soc.culture.china:33020