HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: R100GS; Drive Splines, I DID IT
Followup-To: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 15:34:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.220046.625@halfdome.sf.ca.us> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.025544.24119@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>> ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:
>>>SUPPLEMENTAL INSTRUCTIONS TO THE  JOB OF REMOVING THE REAR DRIVE CASE
>>>IN ORDER TO GREASE THE DRIVESHAFT SPLINES ON R100GS
>> So Ron, is this where I'm not supposed to say "Gee, I sure wish I had
>> one of those low maintenance shaft drive bikes." ?  :-)
>
>blaine, the reason your bike doesnt have such long-term items on the
>maintenence schedule is not because it doesn't need them.  its because
>the marketing people hope their bikes will not last that long.  and,
>y'know, they're RIGHT.
>

When I saw Blaine's backhanded flame the first time, I just wrote him
off as a sorehead, but Bob has said it so well ...


>it seems like all the japanese bikes that are still around after 20
>years have wound up in martin's garage, waiting to get fixed back up. 
>when was the last time some one posted, "my great grand pappy gave me
>this BMW that's been sittin' in his garage for the last umpteen
>bazillion years;  how do i make sure the engine wont sieze when i try
>to turn it over?"  

You probably don't get posts like this on BMW's because of two things -
- People who buy old BMW's buy them because that's exactly what they
  want (model etc.) and they generally know what they are geting into.
- Old BMW's usually still run, and aren't worn out.  The R27 in my sig
  below is a 1962 250cc single, that sat about 15 years before I got my
  hands on it.  It took remarkedly little to get it started and to a 
  point where it could be ridden.  It's really not going to get ridden
  much until a repaint occurs and new tires appear.

>instead, we have folks like martin and david doudna
>who pick up these old bikes, intending to restore them. why do they
>need restoration?  because no one who has any sense would ride them
>instead of a UJM or a sport bike, so they've sat.  now that they're
>odd looking and antique, they have acquired a sort of quaintness not
>unlike that which is ascribed to the citroen deux-chevaux, saab 99,
>early bugs (bolinas excepted), and corvairs. 
>

How could you possible have left out the 356 Porsche?  There's no
accounting for taste!


>--
>-- bob pasker
>-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
>--


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
            {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
From: caban@convex.com (Jane Caban)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:22:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Sep30.192212.865
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

I have to clean the squished bug mess off the visor of my full-face helmet
just about every day. The thought of cleaning dead bugs off my face is
enough incentive for me to wear a full-face! 
-- 
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Jane Caban       | DoD #0508                
caban@convex.com | Honda VT600C Shadow VLX                             "I WTFM"
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Harley ralley in Vietnam
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:47:04 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Oct2.011231.28790@csus.edu> dhoffman@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Robert D. Hoffman) writes:
>Article: 3359 of bit.listserv.seasia-l
>Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
>Newsgroups: bit.listserv.seasia-l
>Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:41:43 -0400
>Sender:       Southeast Asia Discussion List <SEASIA-L@MSU.BITNET>
>From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
>Subject:      NEWS/VN: French bikers begin Harley rally in VN
>Lines: 35
>
>09/30
>
>French bikers begin Harley rally in Vietnam
>
>    HO CHI MINH CITY, VIETNAM, Sept 30, Reuter - French motorcyclists roared
>out of Ho Chi Minh City on Wednesday on an unusual journey to Hanoi, driving
>Harley Davidson motorcycles that belonged decades ago to South Vietnam's
>presidential motorcade.
[rest of stuff deleted]

Uh-oh..... Post this article on the wall in a biker bar and I guaranteeeee
you'll see a totally new definition of "high blood pressure" :-o
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< Neal Howard                         | '91 Harley Sportster XLH-1200 >
< email: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org     | DoD # 686                     >
< CompuTrac, Inc. (Richardson, TX)    | '69 Cougar XR7-GT390          >
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From: Sam_-_Malone@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: The Communicator (Quick review)
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 12:21:56 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


Ross Parker gives a very thorough and helpful review of
"The Communicator". Thank you very much Ross.

After receiving tubs of email regarding my request for information
about "The Communicator " made by Collett Electronics 
in Winnipeg CA., I saw that a large majority of the
responses were based on the supposition that I *had*
the device to use a scanner on and determine the frequency
that Collett seems to think is some kind of top secret.

My original post didn't state that we do not have one available
for sale anywhere near. It would have to be measured
at a store some distance away. I was interested in finding out if
anyone who had access to "The Communicator" would be kind enough
to use a scanner and tell me what freq they are using.

Many of the responses refer to the 5 frequencies that are
available for use in this range. Since this is such a 
common answer, and since (Tim) the friend in question says
that there are 2 models of "The Communicator"
available...one with a single frequency...and one with
5 selectable frequencies...that would almost certainly appear
to be a correct number. Good deal.

Radio Shack's device would most likely be fairly easy to
modify to meet the frequency being used with "The Communicator"
a crystal, a tweak, or something not too involved.
(BTW, both Tim and myself are technicians so the descriptions
 needn't be OVERLY simplified for us). What we would like
to know, is the frequency itself used by "The Communicator".

By the way, thank you everyone for the interesting and
helpful information and mail I have gotten regarding this.

Tim has also asked me to thank Ross for his excellent review.

Dave Wickard  (612) 456-2783
dave@flip.sp.unisys.com
Sam_Malone@cup.portal.com
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Newbie needs advice
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:16:23 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Datasbuild (datasbld@bnr.ca) wrote:
: Lea and Perrins also make a hot variety and a tomato sauce.  Neither of which I
: have tried (yet).  I am still suffering the after shock of trying out Kellogg's
: Pop-Tarts which my children _insisted_ I purchase for them.  They were truly 
: gross!
 
   Nick, do you get the frosted or unfrosted Pop-Tarts?  I find the only
ones that are tolerable to me are the unfrosted brown sugar and cinnamon
variety.  The frosting is truly gross, but even here in the States it is
difficult to find them without it.

ObMoto: The 1993 BMW K100LT has catalytic converter and Motronic ignition,
        I just got a puff sheet on it in the mail yesterday.

--

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* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
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From: martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Paying for Damages on Borrowed Ride (was something else)
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:18:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: adpplz.1602
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

: Dan Sorenson writes:

: >Anyway, I borrowed Llamaha from Jeff Deeney, and had a great time despite
: >riding a borrowed bike.  How did this happen?  A contract.


jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney) writes:
:   1.  Closely scrutinize the candidates postings
:   2.  have the candidate complete [a] survey.  
:   3. When Dan came to pick up the bike, I went through a detailed 
:     pre-flight with him.
:   4. Finally, before I handed Dan the keys, he signed a basic liability 
:     waiver.

I have Gone Beyond any such confusion, to a great convenience. I have
an '82 Yamaha 750 Virago. (See "Wasserman's Ride" for a description.)

If you kill a BMW, your concience will nag you forever. Kill a Ducati,
and they will hunt you down. Kill a Virago, and the most you'll get is
a faint smattering of applause. If you offered pistol shots at a Virago
even dedicated rice riders would take a turn, but noone would pay money
for the privilege.

For a time my Virago actually had a personality. Then I replaced the rusty
two inch rear exhaust header with new headers and mufflers, and now all it
is is muddy. Except for technically being a motorcycle, it has absolutely
no redeeming social value.

So when I loan it to people, I show them how to work the starter (which
on Viragos gets old and dies), and tell them to drive carefully (you can't
get high squid ratings on Viragos) and hand them the keys. As long as they
survive, I'm happy. And I don't lay awake nights, except for wondering, a
little, if someone killed my Virago, what would Carol put in its place?

CX500's are of similar type, right, Dave?

So toss the contracts, and pick up an emergency replacement motorcycle
that nobody loves. And when people come to town, the locals will move
heaven and earth to find them some other motorcycle.

It is a little bit annoying to have a motorcycle you own be outshown
by a Honda 750 four, but if it's a Virago, who cares?


          Martin Golding           |        BMW R100/7  "Britt"
 DoD #236  BMWMOA #55952  WMTC #2  |  BMW 750/6/2+Ural  "Treaty of Leningrad"
              KotP                 |     Ducati 860 GT  "Mouse"
  There's always More,             |         Honda 150  "Dreamboat"
    That's what More _means_!      |   (pending) RD350  "Nippon shu" 
[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin     |     Yamaha XV750J  "Julia Tiberius"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: drinckes@csl.dl.nec.com (Doug Rinckes)
Subject: Spare parts needed! Help!
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: TSSC New Zealand
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:07:35 GMT

A friend of mine recently dumped his BMW R65 while riding thru
the Carpal Tunnel.  If you have any of the bits below, they
would be really appreciated.

left cylinder inlet cam
left cylinder exhaust cam
new bucket and shim adjusters
reed valve for left inlet stub

As well as that damage, he's out of countersteering oil (which is
*really* hard to get round here) and theres a funny noise coming
from his muffler bearings.

Any help would be terrific.  Thanx in advance.

(By the way, his chain is ok.)

-- 
Doug Rinckes, Network Administrator
Telecommunications Systems Support Centre New Zealand Ltd  
                                   | drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp
DOD#: 741                          | the opinions above are not my employers -
1976 BMW R100S + 41mm Dell'Ortos   |  mind you, they may not be mine either!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: DoD weenies
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:33:09 GMT

bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.223520.11501@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>> That's not to say that some Denizens don't put on an false front
>>of secrecy, but then when there are no DoD rules how can you regulate
>>their behaviour?

>Hey, would you type a little more quietly.  I've got that one dude down in 
>Texas convinced that he has to get a frachise, legal permission, and get
>other sorts of releases from the DoD Board of Directors and at least one
>other working sub-committee to reproduce the Daemon for a t-shirt.

>Of course I was gonna work you in for a cut, but if you go blabbing to every
>one that there are no rules us old farts won't even get a beer outta
>the deal.

Sorry about that Bill, but you should have mentioned the cash up front
and I would have been much more discreet. For future reference, just
put "FAQ" in the subject line of any classified posts and you can be
assured that nobody will read them. It used to be that "Test" was used
for top level DoD communications, but that one seems to have been
cracked.

>Be careful what you say on the nets or someone will think that the DoD is
>just another word for anarchy!

Shhh!
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What means "Poser"?
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:22:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 1354@msus1.msus.edu, pooder@msus1.msus.edu () writes:
>
>What say you, DoDers, what's *your* definition of "poser"?

Remember the bikini babes on bikes thread?  The babes were posers, they
were posing for the camera.  You have been called a "perpetuator of
sexist stereotypes."

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Paul Marshall Hounslow)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: A different BMW question - tires
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:32:13 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:

>ssuhouns@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Paul Marshall Hounslow) writes:
>]Soon junked those!  Best things I have found, on the K100's,
>]are Michelin radials.  Last longest too. 3000 out of a Metzler is no joke at
>]20000 a year.  The Michelins gripped the best, and lasted 5000miles.

>as the weather get's cooler here in Austin (70's & 80's, brrrr!!) I've noticed
                      ^^^^^^

>that the michelin's on my RS just aren't up to snuff. twice yesterday the
>michelin's started to let go on corners that the dunlop's on the ZX-11 would
>have been rock solid on. the michelin's are most definatly harder than the
>sportmax's, and I used to get 4000 out of them on the ZX-11. looks like
>I'll be switching to the dunlop's when I wear these michelin's out.

Cooler than where, I was posting from *ENGLAND*, don't think we made it up
that high this year :-( or last year :-( or the year before.....

;-)




Paul

----
73's de Paul                         The smelling pistakes are all my own.
Packet: G4YFY@GB7BEQ                 I have no employer (I retired ;-).
EMail:  ssuhouns@susssys1.rdg.ac.uk  1990 16 valve K100RS(LT)    DoD #0573
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: Why Aerostitch instead of leather?
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 14:13:37 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <MGSMITH.92Oct2085009@hplmgs.hpl.hp.com> mgsmith@hpl.hp.com (Michael Smith) writes:
>I am interested in Aerostitch riding suits but was curious.  Why have
>some of you selected Aerostitch over leather?

I recently borrowed a Gortex jacket for a weekend trip. It was as comfortable
as leather, seemed to give as much protection as leather, and weighed about
half as much.

Chas



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: What to do with stupid cagers
Keywords: Harly, big knife
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 16:26:44 GMT

In article <1anm4aINNs05@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick) writes:
>In a previous article, thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow) said:
>:- 
>:- sorry, I don't like jail...  plus that kind of behaviour could
>:- result in Bad Carma  :-)
>:- 
>
>	whats a "bad carma"? does it have anything to do with cages?

Yeah, last time they offered Thorick jail or community service.  For
community service, they made him repair a '68 VW Carma Ghia.  Apparently
he doesn't have much faith in his wrenching abilities...
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 05:24:57 GMT

chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes:
>In rec.motorcycles tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:

>;Overdrive, underdrive, anydrive. Who gives a shit. When you roll it on,
>;you want to GO. Now. That's what matters.

>Maybe you'd better trade in your bike for a cage
>with an automatic transmission.  You see, with
>bikes, especially SPORT bikes, you occasionally
>have to shift gears to get maximum power.

Cue Randy...    Ah what the heck, I can't let him have ALL the fun. 

Maybe you should try riding a bike with a REAL engine. Something that
has 100 bhp, and lots of low end torque too. Cue favorite quote:

"Pay attention here: With the exception of the '88 V-Max Cycle tested -
and then only in third gear, mind you - the FJ's roll-on numbers are
better than those of any production motorcycle we have ever measured."
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: delilah@next18pg2.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona)
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:51:20 GMT

In article <1as8t7INNpc9@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com (Ed  
Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
> In article 29835@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU,  
mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson) writes:
> >
> >If you have to ask why people ride a Harley you would not understand  
the answer!
>  
> Try me.
> 
> Why do people ride Harleys?
> 
> ---
> Ed Green, former Ninjaite

very simple: because they want to be seen riding harleys, they want people  
to know they ride harleys, and they want to be thought of as harley  
riders. it took me a long time to understand this, since i don't care what  
people think of my ride, as long as i get to ride it. whatever floats yer  
boat, i guess...

-D-
('88 honda hawk gt 650)
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Date: 28 Sep 1992 13:53:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 7305@remus.rutgers.edu, kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>In article <19vo5oINNb7t@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>
>I don't know about the MTBE's, or if I even got the acronym right, but
>ethanol reduces CO emissions also, and is cheaper than gasoline, I
>think.  

The price is expected to increase $.05 to $.07 per gallon.

>     What the tree-huggers don't realize is the law of diminishing
>returns.  If they really want to lower CO, they should go after
>coal-burning power plants. 

Yeah, well, if the safety-crats really want to reduce health care costs
and save lives, they should go after smokers and ignore motorcycle
helmets, but we all know how hard they're working on that!

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Organization: Black Belt Motorcyclists Association
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:23:18 GMT

+In article <2OCT92085150@fnalc.fnal.gov> krafft@fnalc.fnal.gov writes:
+>
+>Why do harlee riders have this superior than thou additude? 
                                                    ^^^^^^^^

I don't know about the other Harle{e,y} riders, but I got
my ADDitude from years of Math classes.  (You may say that
this is now the aftermath).
____________________________________________________________________________
	"Four wheels good; two wheels better" -- Motorcycle Farm????
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 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: ST1100 still reigns supreme
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 06:44:50 GMT

In article <daved.717789388@convex.convex.com> daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:
>During a recent perusal of CYCLE WORLD sept 92 , I was reading a complete
>review of the new BMW K1100LT sports tourer/luxury tourer. I must admit
>I was very impressed by the electric fairing but a single line in 
>the article summed up the new bike.
>
>I quote after some mention of acceleration in the 1/4 mile " Top-gear roll
>on performance also betters that of the ST1100, currently the best 
>sports tourer on the market" 
>
>Now let's not forget that the ST1100 has a true overdrive fifth gear not 
>found on the K1100LT accounting for the less then incredible acceleration
>in fifth but also giving a 85MPH cruising RPM of approx 4300 and 
>absolutley no vibration, but more importantly this article in the above
>line re-affirms that the ST110 is still the best Sports tourer in the
>market and by inference is far superior to the new K1100LT!! For 3000
>less dollars.
>
>Now if I was only a good enough rider to really take advantage of this
>wonderful motorcycle
>

'Wonderful' being, of course, the BMW K1100-LT!  Put 10W fork oil in it, 
and crank in the rear damping screw, and you can get around corners with 
the best of them, and *lots* better than a ST1100.  *lots* faster than 
a ST1100 also.  Being the "only a good enough rider" (NOT) guess he'll
have to settle for the ST1100.  Too bad.


Charlie Smith    csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers# 411, BK Ohio V 
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff. 
             {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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