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From: tmcconne@sedona.intel.com (Tom McConnell)
Subject: Re: X Terminal Benchmarks
Originator: tmcconne@sedona
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:34:27 GMT


In article <1992Sep3.204020.20844@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, rjgg@ihspb.ih.att.com (45261-Gregorich) writes:
> 
> 
> I am looking for free software to benchmark X terminals.
> If you have done any benchmarks could you please post
> them.
> 
> 
>  This is the first time i have accessed this news group. 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> Bob Gregorich
> rjgg@ihspb.ih.att.com
> AT&T Bell Laboratories

  There is always x11perf. It checks server performance, so it wouldn't be real
useful for network load, etc.

    Cheers,

    Tom McConnell

PS: x11perf is in the ./mit/demos/x11perf directory of the X11R5 MIT
distribution, available at all your local ftp sites. - TDM
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From: klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: gcc 2.2 and R5 question
Date: 26 Aug 1992 06:37:57 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tommy

In article <9208251524.AA25011@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu>, ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.EDU
(Lisa Dawes, Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville) writes:
|> I just compiled X11R5 with gcc 2.2 on my Sun Sparc with SunOS 4.1.1.
|> I was wondering if anyone new the side affects of compiling the
|> shared libraries with gcc.  There is a warning saying that old 
|> X applications linked with cc will not work (they must have been
|> linked with gcc).  

The reason for this odd behaviour is that the gcc compiled shared libraries
call a function ___builtin_saveregs which is expected to reside in the main
program. However, cc compiled programs do not comprise this function, and
consequently they will crash upon the function call. - Doing it the other
way is fine: gcc compiled programs work well with cc generated shared
libraries.

If you have a gcc-only environment you won't have any problems. (Well, at
least not this one.)


|> Are there any benefits of compiling the libraries with gcc?

Gcc optimizes much better than cc - your libraries will be considerably
smaller. Whether the gcc generated code is in general faster, too, I have
not estimated.


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: adrian@ora.COM (adrian)
Subject: Re: Drag and Drop
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:49:31 GMT


> There have been two recent postings asking for information on implementing
> drag and drop.  I suggest:

There is one more paper I know of:

3. An object-oriented implementation of a Drag-and-drop protocol.
By Thomas Berlage.  Not published (as far as I know), but
available for ftp.  Contact the author at berlage@gmdzi.gmd.de.
The examples are in Lisp, but they were also planning a C++
implementation.

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps
From: tmod@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: SCO and XServer problems
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:45:11 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

 Help!,
                   
	I have SCO sysv3.2.2 and I am trying to run my X386 server without
 success. During compilation I got errors with writev , setitimer and now 
 when I try to run clients I get 
	fatal IO error 22 (Invalid argument)on Xserver after 'n' requests
 with 0 events remaining

 When I try to run X386 I get
        Fatal server error
		Cannot open /dev/vt00 (/dev/vc00)

 But I don't have any /dev/vt##s on my system !! Should I create them ?
 How? Surely I'm doing something simple wrong ?!?!?!? I'm desperate !

 Can any good soul advise a lost sheep ???

			Thanks,
				Terence O'Donnell
			e-mail: tmod@ccvax.ucd.ie or 
				paulk@elecmag3.ucd.ie
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From: klute@tommy.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Rainer Klute)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Problems with X11R5 compiling under gcc-2.2.2
Date: 28 Aug 1992 06:40:37 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tommy

In article <1992Aug27.214226.22841@news2.cis.umn.edu>,
markb@wagner.cbs.umn.edu (Mark Berres) writes:
|> Has anyone succeeded in compiling X11R5 using gcc-2.2.2 on a sun4c
|> (IPX)?
|> Everything works fine until near the completion of the build with the
|> files:
|> 
|> 			handler.c
|> 			wtree.c
|> 			gram.c
|> 
|> A variety of warnings occur, apparently with enough punch to warrent
|> the
|> failure of the build.

This is way too few information. You should at least mention the directory
where these files are located. The last 10-20 lines of the compile listing
should also be helpful.

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From: stolcke@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Andreas Stolcke)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: What's new in R6?
Date: 28 Aug 1992 05:14:03 GMT
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley, CA, U.S.A.
Reply-To: stolcke@icsi.Berkeley.EDU (Andreas Stolcke)
NNTP-Posting-Host: icsib30.icsi.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug28.044615.8892@odin.corp.sgi.com> mjk@hoot.esd.sgi.com (Mark Kilgard) writes:
:In article <1992Aug27.232636.7983@nosc.mil>, worthen@nosc.mil (Richard H. Worthen) writes:
:|> I've heard talk about a "multi-media" flavor for X. Is this true? 
:|> If so, will it be a part of R6? X12? 
:
:What do you mean just "talk of multi-media" for R6?
:With the XBell call, you can add audio to your clients
:today!

I think what the original poster was referring to was VIREX
(the Virtual Reality Extension).
And don't forget the upcoming Consortium Standards for olfactory and tactile
*output* devices. -:)

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mm@risc3.mi.uni-koeln.de (Martin Malich)
Subject: Re: how to implement slow calback routines ?
Reply-To: mm@risc3.mi.uni-koeln.de (Martin Malich)
Organization: Universit"at zu K"oln
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 06:52:58 GMT


The following code can be used to wait until a specific widget
is displayed on the screen.

Call ForceWidget(msgbox) to solve your problem.



void ForceDialog(Widget w)
{
  Widget diashell, topshell;
  Window diawindow, topwindow;
  Display *dpy;
  XWindowAttributes xwa;
  XEvent event;
  XtAppContext cxt;

/* Locate the shell we are interested in.  In a particular instance,
you
 * may know these shells already.
 */

  for (diashell = w;
       !XtIsShell(diashell);
       diashell = XtParent(diashell))
    ;

/* Locate its primary window's shell (which may be the same) */

  for (topshell = diashell;
       !XtIsTopLevelShell(topshell);
       topshell = XtParent(topshell))
    ;

  if (XtIsRealized(diashell) && XtIsRealized(topshell)) {
    dpy = XtDisplay(topshell);
    diawindow = XtWindow(diashell);
    topwindow = XtWindow(topshell);
    cxt = XtWidgetToApplicationContext(diashell);

/* Wait for the dialog to be mapped.  It's guaranteed to become so
unless... */

    while (XGetWindowAttributes(dpy, diawindow, &xwa),
           xwa.map_state != IsViewable) {

/* ...if the primary is (or becomes) unviewable or unmapped, it's
   probably iconified, and nothing will happen. */

      if (XGetWindowAttributes(dpy, topwindow, &xwa),
          xwa.map_state != IsViewable)
        break;

/* At this stage, we are guaranteed there will be an event of some
kind.
   Beware; we are presumably in a callback, so this can recurse. */

      XtAppNextEvent(cxt, &event);
      XtDispatchEvent(&event);
    }
  }
/* The next XSync() will get an expose event if the dialog was
unmapped. */

  XmUpdateDisplay(topshell);
}



hope this will help.




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From: mark@melpar.UUCP (Mark Mchugh)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Virtual Window Manager for Motif
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:11:32 GMT
Organization: E-Systems, Melpar Division, Falls Church, VA

I understand that Open Look has a virtual window manager (olvwm).
I have a need for a similar option under Motif.  If anyone has
any information about a product or program that can do this, 
I would be most appreciative for your responses.

What I am really looking for is a product that can manage several
screens under Motif, with the user having the ability to switch
from a screen to another screen.  Does this ability exists somewhere ?
Please, send me responses if you know anything about it.
From: ndd@sunbar.mc.duke.edu (Ned Danieley)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: colormap problems on Sun 4/280? (X11R5, gcc 2.1)
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:13:02 GMT
Organization: Basic Arrhythmia Laboratory, Duke Univ. Med. Center, Durham, N.C.
Originator: ndd@bal1

I finally got around to updating R5 with the current fixes and
compiling with gcc 2.1; it works fine on my color SS1s and IPCs,
but not on my 4/280. bringing up xcolors shows that almost no
color names match the displayed colors. all the sun4s are using
the same binaries and libraries; the only difference that I can
think of is that the 4/280 is a cgtwo, and the others are cgthrees.
any suggestions?

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Box 3140, Duke University Medical Center
Durham, NC  27710   (919) 660-5111 or 660-5100
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Subject: RE: Granite background on root window -- how is it done?
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:13:57 GMT

#
#I have the feeling that this should be an easy question but I can't find the
#answer on my own so here goes.....
#
#My boss asked me if there is a way to put a "granite" pattern on his root
#window after login.  I thought I remembered seeing something about it at
#some point in the past so I said I would look into it.
#
#After going through Scheifler & Gettys, O'Reilley (Vols 1,2,4 & 5), the FAQs
#for comp.windows.x and comp.windows.x.motif and the vendor documentation we
#have on hand I still cannot find out how it is done.  It is not one of the
#options presented in the Motif window manager's 'Screen' options.
#
#BTW we have VMS 5.4 running X11R4.
#
#OK.  What do I do?  Where else do I look?  Or have I just overlooked something?
#Any help will be greatly appreciated.
#

What you will need to do is to get ahold of either the X11R3 or X11R4 clients
and demos available from the DECUS Library.  This code will contain among
other things a routine to correctly find the root window on a DECwindows/VMS
display which you can then use to change the background.  In the X11R3 stuff
there was a program called XGRANITE that does what you boss wants.  Otherwise,
you're going to have to come up with you own granite bitmap.

Patrick L. Mahan

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From: chris@visionware.co.uk (Chris Davies)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: X windows over phone lines for PCs
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:43:31 GMT
Organization: VisionWare Ltd., Leeds, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Alan Steele (neptune@icd.teradyne.com) wrote:
> I don't know the contact information for the U.S. office of VisionWare (they
> are based in the U.K.), but you can get XVision from Qualix group, among others.
> E-mail to info@qualix.com.

You can reach VisionWare by email at info@visionware.co.uk or you can
telephone us on +44 532 788858, fax +44 532 304676.

Our US Office phone number is +1 415 325 2113, fax +1 415 325 8710.

Chris
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Subject: where can I find documents/help for nlock?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 07:53:48 GMT

 where can I find help/docs for nlock?

sue@byron.u.washington.edu
thanx
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:15819 comp.windows.x.apps:870
From: desouza@asmara.berkeley.edu (Paulo de Souza)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps
Subject: Choosing colors  for X11 - a palette ?
Date: 28 Aug 1992 19:55:48 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: asmara.berkeley.edu

I seen on some DEC and IBM machines a palette that lets you move a
stick around and choose a color giving you (in another part of the
window) the combo of Red-Green-Blue that you need to match that
color.

Does anybody knows if such a thing is available for X11 (for example
on a Sparc Station) ? And where one could find it ?

Paulo Ney                                desouza@math.berkeley.edu
From: ldawes@uahcs2.cs.uah.EDU (Lisa Dawes, Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Accellerated X
Date: 25 Aug 92 15:21:02 GMT
Organization: The Internet

This isnt a directly related X question but since I can only read the news,
not post to it,(kind of defeats the purpose of having news if you ask me),
I am posting this here in hopes that some kind soul will answer it or maybe
cross-post it to comp.graphics.

My problem is I'm writing an integrated X/PHIGS application. I wish to utilize
the graphic accellerators available on the Sun GX frame buffers.  However,
my display must be sent to another frame buffer plugged into the Sbus slot
of my Sun (for output to an LCD panel which the GX fb wont drive).

My question is, can I still utilize the graphic accelleration provided with
the GX frame buffer without directly utilizing the display of that frame buffer.

Another related question:
Are there frame buffers/graphic accellerators available for a Sun Sparc which
have the capability of driving various monitors (i.e VGA and up) and which will
plug into an Sbus slot.
I know of a card which does half the job (Vigra frame buffer), but this board
has no graphic accellerators.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Tim
From: espiritu@cgi.com (Rex Espiritu)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Problems with stray xterm client processes...
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:55:59 GMT

I was wondering if anyone else out there has experienced something similar...

We seem to be occasionally experiencing a problem with "xterm" clients
sharing the same pseudo-devices.

This problem arises when a user logs out of one of our Sun SPARCstations
where they had "xterm" clients running when they logged out.

What happens then is the "xterm" clients of another user (on the same
machine) seems to then start sharing the same pseudo device that the
other user had.  The second user can do a "whoami" and they will get a
response of the other user.  It seems that every other command is
executed under the other users "uid".

Following is an outline of a typical scenario:

1). User "smith" logs into (xdm) "cgist" and starts up xterm clients on an
    NCD X-terminal (or a Sun console running the X11 server).

2). User "jones" logs into "cgist" and starts up xterm clients on an xterm.

3). User "smith" finishes working and logs out of "cgist".

4). One of user "jones" xterm clients now begins acting funny. User "jones"
    can execute "whoami" and get "jones" and then do it again and get "smith".

5). User "jones" must log out in order to clear this problem.

Any information and/or assistance in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
We currently don't subscribe to this newsgroup so please reply via e-mail to:

	espiritu@cgi.com

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From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: HP-UX - building x clients - need imake, config files etc
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:32:46 GMT
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO

This stuff is available for anonymous FTP from iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu.

						...Mike

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson)
Subject: How do you control the delay for doubleclicks?
Organization: Wayne State Univ.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:32:22 GMT

I've installed xdtm (X-DeskTop-Manager), and it works great...almost.
Many of the functions require you to hit the mouse button twice. How
do you control the delay factor of the mouse click? My delay seems to
be so fast that I have a hard time doing a doubleclick, but I have no
idea how to control this. Any ideas?


















Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: stevens@scubed.com (Jeff Stevens)
Subject: Re: Disappearing command line arguments
Organization: S-CUBED, A Division of Maxwell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:27:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.035954.16698@scubed.com>, stevens@scubed.com (Jeff Stevens) writes:
|>   XtInitialize (and variants) removes all Xt command line arguments
|> from the command line list argv and reduces argc accordingly.  However,
|> it also removes a "-d" flag, and sometimes removes a "-t" flag.  "-d"
|> appears to be equivalent to "-display".  These are not documented toolkit 
|> options, and I can't find any reference to them in the X source code.
|> 
|>   Is this a bug or a feature?  Where and why are these arguments removed?
|> Are there any other undocumented flags extracted by the X initialization
|> routines?  Why is "-t" removed sometimes and sometimes not?  This is causing 
|> problems, since we use "-t" for another purpose.

Thanks to the people who responded so quickly to the above question.  I had
not realized that any unique abbreviation of an option flag would be interpreted
as the option flag.  This seems like a dangerous feature, since it means that
if the command line is parsed by the application other than by the resource
manager, application flags must be distinct not only from the standard toolkit
flags, but also from any unique abbreviation of these flags or any application
supplied flags.  The only safe solution to this problem is to explicitly 
reference each flag in the application defined options table.

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: nelson@magenta.me.fau.edu (Kevin Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Question: Daily Planner
Keywords: scheduler planner
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:13:23 GMT
Organization: Chinese Circus Clowns Congregation

Does anyone know of a PD x-program that functions as
a daily planner and alarm. Something similar to dec-windows
planner. Preferably for the SUN.

Thanks in Advance.

Kevin M. Nelson
Dept. of Mechanical Engineering
Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton FL.
E-Mail: nelson@magenta.me.fau.edu, nelson@acc.fau.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: ware@organ.cis.ohio-state.edu (Peter Ware)
Subject: Re: 256 grayscale levels with standard colormap
Originator: ware@organ.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: Ohio State Computer Science
	<1992Sep3.195418.6065@discus.technion.ac.il>
	<1992Sep3.220424.26925@dsd.es.com>
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:40:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.220424.26925@dsd.es.com> pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul
Martz) writes:

   Using "virtual colormaps" is not the cause of colormap flashing.
   Colormap flashing is caused by the fact that some hardware platforms
   only have one 256-entry colormap available.  Many graphics adaptors
   are available which have several hardware colormaps. On these
   adaptors, you can run many clients which each want to own 256 colors,
   and rarely encounter colormap flashing.

Ah, don't we all long for the days when everyone has awesome graphics
engines -- multiple colormaps, true color, stereo viewing (with a
choice of X, Y or X & Y scaling), multibuffering, fast PEX, runtime
selection of default visuals for each screen, runtime selection of
screen setups -- does the list ever end?  All the worlds not an Evans
and Sutherland workstation!

Great X server -- now just make it so the rest of us can afford it!

--pete
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik)
Subject: Re: Compile X11 under Solaris 2.0
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:32:25 GMT

aardvark@nt1l.krl.com (Donald Koch) writes:

>In article <9209031847.AA02731@mtesol>, sinan@Mtesol.boeing.COM (Sinan Karasu) writes:
>[...]
>>  I have a very simple question. I don't quite understand what is at
>> issue here. It is my understanding that all Suns come with X11R4
>> out of the box. So , what is the need for all this porting Stuff?
>> Unless you need X11R5 , it seems that you should be able to 
>> use what Sun already provides!. What gives ????

>I believe that OpenLook comes with a Sun out of the box.  Slight difference.
>Like no imake or xmkmf (useful for building other X goodies), an xterm that
>some people don't like the look and feel of (or for that matter, the entire
>OpenLook look and feel which some people don't like) and other missing programs
>(don't ask me which, I've managed to miss using the OpenLook stuff so far).

OpenWin feels a bit slower and is a bit less efficient. OpenWin
does come with most of the standard X release nowadays (including
imake, xmkmf, standard xterm and all the core libraries). 
11R5 feels a lot faster, but on the other workstation on my desk I run
OpenWindows. I use a X11R5 WM and clients, but need NeWS for AnswerBook and
SunSolve. OpenLook applications redraw very slow, in my opinion.

Casper
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