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From: deal_j@apollo.HP.COM (John Deal)
Subject: Re: Should I buy a new Peavey/Ibanez or used Fender?
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:49:59 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Dec24.204914.16133@rock.concert.net>, darkshot@rock.concert.net (Michael B Garrett -- Chudys) writes:
|> 
|> Go with the Peavey- 10 years ago I had to put my Rick in the shop for
|> a while and decided to get another stage bass- and was fully prepared to
|> spend 600-1000 bucks to get what I wanted. After trying everything there
|> was at the time, I came home with a Peavey T-20 for $190.
|> 
|> It STILL sounds just like a '57 Precision (the only year Fender got it
|> right, imho)
|> 
|> The Foundations/Dynabasses are even better. 
|> 
|> 'Shot
I will tend to agree with 'Shot in that the Foundation bass placed tops in 
its price class ($300-$500 U.S.) in the "Bass Player" bass shootout a couple
months ago.  You may want to find a back issue and give it a read.
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From: eijkhout@cupid.cs.utk.edu (Victor Eijkhout)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.bass
Subject: Re: first audition
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:53:10
Organization: /pearl/homes/eijkhout/.organization
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In-reply-to: paular@kubiki.Eng.Sun.COM's message of 4 Jan 1993 17:58:54 GMT

In article <lkgumuINNag3@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> paular@kubiki.Eng.Sun.COM (Paul Arthur) writes:

   I went to a Stu Hamm clinic a couple of weeks ago and he had auditioned for Cher, Madonna and Oingo Boingo and was turned down by all of them. He said attitude is a
   lot of it and he didn't take it personally when he was turned down. Both Cher and
   Madonna were paying ~ $3k a week (according to Stu). Tattoos optional. :-) 

Hamm is very upbeat about being turned down. A few years ago some guitar
mag had people give their top ten lists, and he had a list of 'top ten
gigs that I was turned down for'. And some guitar player or other once
told (in Guitar Player) about auditioning for Cher: there was tape player
recording him, but a few photographers were taking his pictures from all 
sides.





--
Victor
``I have seen this funny quote, if only I could find it back.''
From: mvcjp@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.j.pouliot)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Lead Vocalist Wanted - Salem NH Area
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:38:23 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: AT&T

Hi - I'm currently in a top-40 band with brass that is slowly degenerating
	into an oldies band before my eyes. Unfortunately, we're also getting
	a larger following and we are booked solid (every Fri & Sat night)
	until August! Go figure! Well, the drummer and myself are bored stiff
	and are investigating putting together a killer entertainment band ala
	the seventies (if you were there doing it like we were, then you know
	what I mean!) with occasional brass, (we have a section) songs that
	take more than 5 minutes to learn, (giving self-satisfaction) and giving
	the crowd a show that they'll pay for even if they don't dance. We 
	still want to be top-40, but for every top-40 hit that EVERYONE plays,
	there are hundreds more - we want to select from THAT list! For example
	some Journey, Santana, Steely Dan, Ambrosia hits - these bands had
	mega-hits that most people go "Oh Yeah!!!" about, but no band does them.
	At least there aren't any that I know of. I'm not implying that we'd 
	DO just this type of music, it's just what came to mind.

	I play guitar, keys, sequence, and sing, and the drummer is the best - 
	he used to own a sound company and he runs his own studio so between
	us, we have sound equipment galore, as well as rehearsal space, and a 
	box truck! I've been getting the facts together for a midi'd lighting 
	system that would be controlled by a channel of the sequencer.

	We have bassists in mind to choose from, and the INITIAL intent is to
	sequence all the keyboard parts - ensuring repeatability and no "clams"
	in the performance - equipment failures or "other". (this is not a 
	flame to keyboard players - we've just had atrocious luck with them)
	Obviously this is subject to revision. We believe that through our
	current band, we've established a reputation that will at least get us
	in the door to some clubs until we prove that we DON'T deserve the gig.

	We aren't looking for either a girl or a guy, we're looking for a sound
	and a talent to build a band around. If you're interested, or know a
	person we should call please drop me a line at mvcjp@mvgpk.att.com
	Like I said, we want to be the best and have the better clubs come 
	looking for us! By the way, we're in our young thirties.

					Thanks for listening,
						- Charlie
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: mike@highlite.uucp (Mike Wiik)
Subject: consumer keyboards 4 sale
Organization: Gotham Communications Research
Distribution: dc
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:58:43 GMT

2 used consumer keyboards for sale:

Casio HT-700
	20 preset sounds
	20 preset but modifiable sounds
	20 customized sounds
	20 preset drum/base/accom. 2-measure patterns
	20 customized drum/base/accom. 2-measure patterns
	20 preset drum/base/accom. 1-measure patterns
	20 customized drum/base/accom. 1-measure patterns
	4-song chord sequencer
	2 split points
	midi in/out
	pitch bend control
	small keys
	includes manufacturer's recommended power supply,
	sustain pedal, RAM card, manual, box

Yamaha PSR-47
	100 preset drum/base/accom. patterns
	100 preset sounds
	dual sound capability
	split point: upper/lower sounds or chords/melody
	pitch bend control
	midi in/out
	5 drum pads, 20 drum/effect sounds
	large keys
	includes manufacturer's recommended power supply,
	manual, box

Asking $200 for Casio, $225 for Yamaha. Offers accepted. Must
sell soon, offer may be withdrawn. Take both for $390. Please
email with offer if interested..


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: dbh@fc.hp.com (Dave Hollenbeck)
Subject: Re: FOR SALE: lots of gear
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:50:45 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]


The following two items were not priced competetively:          (new price)
Tascam       488         8 Track cassette deck           $1100.    950.
                            (< 10 hours use)
Yamaha       SY-77       Synthesizer                      1700.   1400.
Marshall     1960A       Stereo 4x12 cabinet               500.    425.
EV           BK1232      12 channel mixer w/hard case      700.    625.


Remaining items for sale:

Yamaha       YMC10       MIDI <-> FSK (tape) converter         50.
             SM15H       2 way 15" monitors                   190. each
             GQ1031BII   31 band (1/3 octave) graphic EQ      200.
             G10C        Guitar MIDI controller               250.
QSC          1400        Power amp 200w/channel               450.
Sony         CDP491      CD player                            115.
JVC          TD-R441     Stereo cassette deck                 135.
Mesa Boogie  50/50       rack mount tube guitar power amp     500.
             Rack        12 space shock mount rack w/wheels   325.
DBX          163X        Compressor                           100.

Some prices may be negotiable.  Discounting considered for substantial
purchase (many items).

303-229-9819

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: srfergu@rufus.erenj.com (Scott Ferguson)
Subject: Re: 8 track suggestions, please
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:22:24 GMT

In article <79491@hydra.gatech.EDU>, Jim.Greenlee@cc.gatech.edu writes:
|> Regarding "8 Track suggestions, please", gompertz@sdd.hp.com wrote:
|> >This raises a question I've been wondering about: At what point 
|> >does cassette based multi-track recording become inadequate.
|> 
|> I've been wondering about this myself. I've been sort of casually
|> looking at what's available in the 8-track market. I had been
|> considering the Tascam 688 because of the builtin support for MIDI,
|> but I'm real nervous about putting 8 tracks on a 1/4" cassette. The
|> 688's editing capabilities seem pretty robust, but I think the same
|> thing could be accomplished with a computer and some decent S/W.
|> 

I also wonder: Are there any 8-track decks available that use VHS, or
8-mm videotape? Are they affordable?

By the same law that says you can put 2 GB of digital data on an 8mm tape,
you should be able to fit a heck of a lot more analog on it as well. 

Of course, I guess an 8-track helical scan head could be a minor design 
miracle, which it would be cheaper to make a digital 8-track DAT (already
available at 5K).

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Project Engineer                      New Jersey
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From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Resistance Summing/Mixer Circuit
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 09:45:45 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

barothwe@floyd.cca.cr.rockwell.com writes:

> 
> I am interested in building a SIMPLE resistance summing or mixer circuit.
> 
>   The problem:
> 
> 		I have two stereo synth devices and one stereo reverb that
> 		I need to input into a Tascam 424, which has only 2 stereo
> 		input channels.
> 
>   The goal:
> 
> 		To be able to sum the two (or more) synth device stereo
> 		outputs into one stereo output.
> 
>   There really is no need to be able to "mix" the stereo signals... summing
>   them together would be fine since each device has an output level control.
> 
> Does anyone know of a simple, CHEAP circuit to do this?
> 
> Thank you!
> 
Well.  If my memory serves me correctly, this circuit should work.
 
In 1  o---/\/\/----+---/\/\/----+
                   |            |
In 2  o---/\/\/----+   |\       |
                   |   | \      |
                   +---|- \     |
                       |   |----+-------o Summed Out
                       |  /
                   +---|+/
                   |   |/
                   \
                   /
                   \
                   |
                Ground

All squiggleys (horizontal /\/\/ and the vertical ones) are 100K 1/4w 
resistors, that should be matched as closely as possible.
 
The opamp can be a 741 or 1/2 of either a 1458; 4558 or 4559 (or a few 
others as well).
 
Since it looks like you want to mix two sets of stereo outs into a set of 
stereo ins, you'd have to build two of these devices (can be done with 1 
dual opamp; like one of the 3 that I listed).
 
If you don't care about keeping stereo imaging, for the signal into the 
FX unit, then you could just slap two more 100K resistors into the 
'stack' of the other two resistors, listed in the schematic above.  (IE.  
Instead of the two 100Ks, one ontop of the other both feeding the 
negative input of the opamp, you'd have 4 of them).
 
The opamp will work with a DUAL voltage supply such as +9/-9 volts or 
+15/-15 volts.  (Two 9 volt batteries will give you the first supply.  
Simpler to build).
 
Hope this helps.
 
Five

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: birkelan@cs1.sps.mot.com (Joel Birkeland)
Subject: Re-fret vintage Fender?
Reply-To: birkelan@cs1.sps.mot.com (Joel Birkeland)
Organization: Motorola SPS
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:38:10 GMT

I have a 1956 Mando-caster (Fender electric mandolin) that I purchased
when it was in pretty bad shape.  The original finish had been removed
(on the body only) and replaced with an awful amateur lacquer.

I had the body professionally re-finished in the original butterscotch
and it looks great.  The action, however, still sucks.

My Question:  Should I get a re-fret?  The frets seem pretty low now, and
there are some hellacious dings in them, like somebody played hammer-ons
using a real hammer.  The intonation of the open strings is also way off,
indicating a problem with the nut.

Some say that re-fretting this is anathema, others tell me it is no
big deal.  If anyone out there has an opinion, I would really
appreciate it.

Joel Birkeland
birkelan@cs1.sps.mot.com
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From: wrm@friskie.WPI.EDU (William Michalson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Sound reinforcement systems?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 17:12:06 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: friskie.wpi.edu

I'm interested in getting opinions on what people are using (or wish they
were using) for a small-club sound reinforcement system.  A brief rundown
of your basic setup would be most helpful.  I'm thinking of buying a PA
system and would like to bias my purchases towards those items which have
proven their value (and away from stuff that turned out terrible!).  Please
pass along as much infor as you can (model numbers, power ratings, etc)

If there is enough response (and interest) I'll be happy to post a "composite"
system that reflects the info I get.

Thanks

Bill
From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: 4 track questions
Date: 8 Jan 93 00:20:18 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1993Jan6.234648.10474@dg-rtp.dg.com> lander@hydra.rtp.dg.com 
(Howard Lander) writes:
>I have recently purchased a Tascam 4 track and I have a couple of questions to
>ask about using it.

>Number one: My house has a large space heater in the same room I am using
>for my studio. When the fan kicks in it throws a nasty hum into the 
>recorder. I live in an old house with old wiring, so I think what I want is
>some kind of filter to put on the 4 track's power cord. Any ideas?

I suspect that the hum comes from the fan into the heads of the
recorder and not via the AC line.  A line filter for a space heaters
power consumption may be difficult to find should you determine that
is really the cause.

You should be able to test this by turning on the heater noting the
hum level and then moving the heater around and seeing if the hum gets
worse or better.  Leave the heater in the position that has the least
hum.

Additionally the hum is probably only getting into the playback head
and not being recorded onto tape.  This means that if all else fails
you should only need to keep the heater off during mix down.

-- 
Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,
chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: 8 track suggestions, please
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:09:52 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gvgspd.gvg.tek.com

In article <3969@key.COM> connelly@panthera.key.amdahl.com writes:

>I've used a Tascam 238 Syncaset 1/4" 8-track for about two years now. Here's
                                 ^^^^

This is twice recently that I've seen cassette tape referred to as 1/4".  My
238 manual specs the tape to be 3.81 (+0, -0.05) millimeters in width, which
is 0.15 inch, or, just slightly greater than 1/8".

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    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
    !tektronix!gvgpsa!gvgspd!mrk        |         - The Who, Bargain
From: frankc@tgf.tc.faa.gov (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Where Should I Post This?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 13:30:30 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: offserv2.faa.gov

jeffp@hot100.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Pfeiffer) writes:


>I'm looking to join a working Band in the South Bay area of San Francisco.

To answer the question of your subject line, you should limit your
distribution to the bay area.  Why am I reading this in New Jersey?

(Hint - Don't say distribution: world)

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: slan@teal.csn.org (Slan Markovic)
Subject: Re: Tascam Porta05 Users...
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: alt
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:30:31 GMT

In article <C0E1Bz.119@rice.edu> hk@caesar.rice.edu (Hyonchol Kahng) writes:
>
>Just curious as how many of you in netland use this deck and for how long
>you've been using it.  

I've had mine about three years and probably recorded 30 songs
on it.  Mine is still going strong, but it is overdue for a
cleaning/degaussing/calibration.

Slan.
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk (Clive Grace)
Subject: Double Bass for Sale
Reply-To: cliveg@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:21:00 +0000

Subject: Double Bass for Sale
=============================

[For UK post only: Sorry my mailer can't automatically do UK 
distribution posts.]


3/4 size Double Bass for sale. Blonde, carved Zeller model, includes 
soft case. A-mazing sound, but sadly I'm moving to smaller premises 
that only allow for my bass guitars.

Two years old, never gigged, never left my house and it's in 
absolutely pristine condition. Cost #670. Want to sell for #550 
o.n.o.

Please don't follow up in this newsgroup, please Email me for more 
information and I'll post you my telephone number if you';re 
interested.

Thank you

Clive Grace
From: 00bjhoyt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Where Should I Post This?
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:43:40 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1993Jan8.192601.3132@pony.Ingres.COM>, jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger) writes:
> In article <1993Jan8.042024.23145@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>, derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne) writes:
>>In article <1ihb9mINNfo3@faatcrl.Faa.Gov> frankc@tgf.tc.faa.gov (Frank Coffman) writes:
>>>jeffp@hot100.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Pfeiffer) writes:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm looking to join a working Band in the South Bay area of San Francisco.
>>>
>>>To answer the question of your subject line, you should limit your
>>>distribution to the bay area.  Why am I reading this in New Jersey?
>>
>>You think you've got problems!  At least you are on the same continent.
>>I am trying to start a band but I think San Francisco is a bit of a long 
>>way to go for practices!
>>
>>>(Hint - Don't say distribution: world)
>>
>>Good hint!
> 
> Bad hint.  The "Distribution:" header does, for all practical purposes,
> nothing.  I have no idea why this is, but constantly repeated empirical
> evidence suggests that it's very close to completely useless.
> This wouldn't be such a problem, because the "wasted bandwidth"
> associated with a single local-interest ad that goes astray is fairly
> negligible, but what invariably happens is that such an ad is followed
> up by a million people saying witty stuff like "Hey, I can't make it to
> rehearsal in San Francisco, but maybe we could meet halfway in Ohio?".
> _That's_ what wastes the bandwidth.
> 
> There was recently a big flap on rec.pets.cats where someone innocently
> posted an article about a lost ferret -- with a perfectly reasonable
> distribution restriction, BTW -- and it fetched up a few continents away,
> and everybody had to get in their wise-ass remark.  The thread went on
> for a couple of weeks, wasted all kinds of time and resources, and the
> poor woman who started it all, who just wanted to be reunited with her
> beloved ferret, probably felt terrible.
> 
> Some people don't know about the "Distribution:" header.  Some people
> do know about it, use it properly, and the article gets spread all
> over the place anyway.  Some people know all this but really want to
> post something that's of local interest anyway, because they think it's
> important.  All of these people deserve some slack, because, bottom line,
> the feature just plain doesn't work, and there doesn't seem to be a damn
> thing anyone can do about it.
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>    -__ __ /_   Jon Berger              "If you push something hard enough,
>   //_// //_/   jonb@ingres.com          it will fall over."
> _/ ---------                              - Fudd's First Law of Opposition


Now this is what I call WASTED BANDWIDTH!  ^^^^^^

Such hipocracy!
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Mandolin info requested on instrument style and price negotiatin
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 00:00:06 GMT


In article <1993Jan10.195818.25173@b30.ingr.com>, shelley@b30!b11.ingr.com (Shelley Read Heard) writes:
|> 
|> There is also an entire family of mandolins that correspond to the viol 
|> family:  picalo mandolin, mandolin, mandola, octave mandolin (bazouki),
|> mando-cello (my favorite), and mando bass.  Mando basses are best described 
|> as exceptionally fine conversation pieces.  Dobro and banjo mandolins,
|> mando-lutes, and other strange and wonderful mandos lurk out there ...

I went to some Mandolin festival concerts this weekend in Melbourne. All
of the above were played there. The mando basses I saw had _8_, yes EIGHT
pairs of strings - a formidable instrument.

Anyway, the upshot of the concert was that most of the chamber pieces
(played usually by the Melbourne contingents) were quite stifled and
dull.  The Mandolin 'orchestras' managed to inspire a few more people
and emotions (it's easier with 30 mandolins & 10 guitars playing at once),
especially the german group (forget the name & will search out if anyone 
interested).

that's all,

brian
(who had his mando bridge fixed last night - happy)
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From: na0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (Nicolas Alejandro Arauz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: +30db Gain Schematics -- Where!?
Date: 5 Jan 93 08:12:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sfGQyS200WB68RUVx9
Organization: Senior, Architecture, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Can someone tell me where I can get ahold of the schematics to make this
gain amplifier that people keep talking about?  Also, I was wondering if
it could be possible to make the unit accept two inputs, ie. a mike and
a guitar?  But still, first things first, can someone lead me to the
schematics?!  Thanks a lot!
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