From: Montague_Kevin@Tandem.com (Kevvy Kev)
Subject: Re: The Supergirl that never was (was Re: Superman rebirth)
Organization: In Effect Enterprises
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:03:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.223319.26095@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Sep23.010510.10143@leland.Stanford.EDU> terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:

[Snip: Supergirl did exist. . .sorta.  In any case, DC killed her.]
> >|> 

[Snip: Did Not.]
> >|> 
[Snip: Did Too!]
> >
> 
> All I can say is read The History of the DC Universe.  In the post Crises world,
> Power Girl was NEVER a kryptonian, she only THOUGHT she was.  Matrix didnot
> appear on Earth untill after the CRISES.  
> 
> The Crises changed things from the begining of time on up. Thus Superman is the
> only Kryptonian to have escaped Krypton. There was no Kara Zor-El to become
> Supergirl.  The events of the Crises Limited Series did not happen in the 
> post Crises Universe.  All that is known (Animal Man not withstanding) is that
> the skies turned red, Shadow demons threatend the world, the Heroes saved the
> Universe from a a wave of anti-matter from the One other universe (there were 
> two- the "positive" and the anti.) Please note that this is not what happened
> in the crises Limited series, but how those events happened in the history of
> the NEW DC universe.
> 
> As a side point, I think Supergirls role in Crises was taken over by the 
> Superboy who appeared durring the time. (When Byrne's S-Man met the Legion, he
> mentioned him.  In he PRE-crises universe, he was from Earth-prime--it wasn't explained who he was post-crises. He was NOT the S-boy from the pocket universe.
> 
> ----SCAVENGER

All I'll say is: I've read it.  And it's useless as a tool to decide what DC
considers part of continuity, and what isn't.  The original Captain Atom
(Charlton Version) is in there, for pete's sake.  And the sequence of events,
and repercussions, cannot be true for DC's current conception of "continuity."
Quotes intentional, because there basically isn't any real continuity in DC
these days.  Last time I visited DC and asked why things were such a mess, 
they told me point-blank: "We don't care about continuity. . .just telling 
good stories."  This from an editor who will remain nameless.  I just blinked
at him a couple of times, then left it alone.
I look at it this way: this all started because I took exception to Carlin's
assertion that "We don't know what happens when a Kryptonian dies." This is
hogwash, of course, and the fact that Supergirl DID die (whether her
existence is still "valid" by silly DC continuity rules is kind of besides the
point) is only one reason why it's hogwash.  The only difference between the
other Kryptonians we've seen die and Supes is that they were Much more 
powerful.  Sigh.
Also keep in mind that your choice of reference material is particularly 
ill-suited, because it  mentions several characters that were wiped post-Crisis,
and agrees with the end of the _Crisis_ series that "They would not be 
forgotten."  Sigh.

Kevvy Kev
Once Superman is dead, no one will see him.  This is not a cheap trick.
  -Dan Jurgens