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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: William / FISA mess
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:45:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: e2big.1993Jan26.184530.19899
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


In article <1k1comINNcu3@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
cg894@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian Lee Wilson) writes:
|>
|>Has anyone considered the possibility of FISA conveniently
|>misplacing the Williams application?  I just cannot believe that
|>a multi-million dollar a year GP team would even come close
|>to 'forgetting' to apply for the '93 championship!

Never ascribe to cleverness what can be explained by stupidity or
incompetence.  Frank Williams probably told some secretary or other flunky
to FAX the application to FISA, and they read one column over on the phone
number list and dialed the FAX number for FOCA, instead.  Or they misunderstood
and sent it to the wrong place.

What surprises me is that a team would leave something as important as their
F1 application until the very last minute.  I'd have sent mine in early.

--PSW
From: unglenie@ford.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J Unglenieks)
Subject: Re: Where is the track?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:59:37 GMT

John B Lewis writes:
>Does anyone out there in net land know which track in the US is known as 
>I.R.P.?  It is East of the Mississippi, but that's about as far as I know.
>
>Thanks for the help!

IRP - Indianapolis Raceway Park.  Just west of Indianapolis.  Sprints,
      drag racing, and other classes.  A good place to visit and see some
      racing the night before the Indy 500.

Rob U
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From: chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry)
Subject: Re: Question
Organization: Recom Technologies, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:00:36 GMT

In article <1k913gINN6ir@bigboote.WPI.EDU> giants@wpi.WPI.EDU (J Scott Kearney) writes:
>      How much does the height of a driver matter...meaning the design of
>the car, aerodynamics over a taller driver's head? (of course we are talking
>about open cockpit machines)  Is a lack of height (under 6 ft. maybe 5'6"...
>not to offend anyone who may be sensitive) a preferred quality in a driver.

In a formula car, driver height is crucial!  This is one reason Tommy
Kendall isn't racing Indy cars -- he's too tall to fit.  Scott Pruett
also had problems, until Truesports designed the car around him!

At least as important as height is weight.  In the top ranks of the
sport, the car is weighed less driver, so a smaller driver is a big
advantage (more so in Formula One, where the minimum weight is
ridiculously low).

>      Of course we all know how tiny Prost is, but what are some of the 
>heights of F1/Indy pilots today. (or should I have written Indy/F1...haha)

I think the Al Unsers, father and son, are both around 5'9" or so.
The M. Andrettis are about the same, maybe a little shorter.  Rahal's
about 6'.  These are from memory -- don't quote me.

 -- Chuck Fry  Chucko@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov


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From: fulco@imag.imag.fr (patrick fulconis)
Subject: Re: Williams in strife
Organization: Institut Imag, Grenoble, France
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:11:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.151307.1@economics.adelaide.edu.au>, ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au writes:
|> Hey guys, I just heard that Williams are in trouble for lodging their racing
|> application late!!  Apparently they have to get permission from all the other
|> teams if they want to join the circus and a couple of them have held out,
|> saying they want Williams advantage in technology neutralised before they
|> agree!
|> 
|> Anyone else heard anything?
|> 
|> Rob
|> 

-- 

i heard the result of the FISA:
 Williams are not on the list of 93' teams !

(because Williams have sent its 'letter' to the FOCA and not to the FISA)


but it's not definitive. Perhaps some pressure will make change the
decision.


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From: geoff@tyger.East.Sun.COM (Geoff Arnold @ Sun BOS - R.H. coast near the top)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: NEW ZEALAND ATLANTICS WIGRAM6vKmhSD`
Date: 22 Jan 1993 13:19:35 GMT
Organization: SunSelect
Distribution: world
Reply-To: geoff@tyger.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: tyger.east.sun.com

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Must have been a hell of a race. I guess somebody dumped oil all over
turn one...:-)


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Geoff Arnold, PC-NFS architect, Sun Select. (geoff.arnold@East.Sun.COM)

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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Re: Confirm/Disprove WC Rumor Please
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:26:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.032752.131369@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> swh0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEPHEN WILLIAM HUMINSKI) writes:
>I recently heard a rumor about Kodiak leaving WC action.  Thanx in advance.
>-- 
Just a rumor that faded.  They're back in '93 with
Schrader

bob

Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: lallo@stsci.edu (Matthew D. Lallo   (410)338-4577)
Subject: Re: F1: No Williams in 93? (or, oops!)
Reply-To: lallo@stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute, Baltimore MD
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:11:37 GMT

In article 7690@sersun1.essex.ac.uk, aghao@sersun2.essex.ac.uk () writes:

>FISA, the governing body, have said that the entry for Williams was received 
>on Monday, the 16th of November 1992, 1 day late, and was thus not included.
>However, it is still possible for the team to be on the grid in South Africa.
>This depends on the goodwill of ALL the other teams competing in the series,
>and at the moment, 2 teams are holding out: Minardi and Benetton.
>
>
>I have been surprised at the absence of this thread on the net, although it 
>could be because no one gives a good godd@mn! :-)


Obi, this is not the first time I've wondered just how far behind either you or
the UK is in receiving usenet posts. Can other brits out there help out?
Your claim that this topic has been absent is amazing to me. I count 30 posts 
relating to this topic in the past week or so. In fact one might say your posting 
is old news.

One interesting tidbit you did have though is the naming of the other holdout team
with Benetton. You claim it is Minardi. That's interesting. We've been guessing who
it could be with McLaren as prime suspect. How did you get the info that it was Minardi?
How confident are you of that fact?

Anyway good to hear from you and your always well informed viewpoint, even if it is 
sometimes a little late!  :-)


Matt



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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Partial D24H Entries
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:39:08 GMT

Here's a partial list of entries for the Rolex 24.
The race will be televised on ESPN February 6th, 
9-11pm Eastern Time.  Note that the LeMans and
Invitation GT (FIA GT, Group A and B, Latin American
GTU Junior) divisions will not be eligible for IMSA
championship points.

GTP:
Toyota Eagle MkIII (2 cars)
Fangio/Mark Dismore/Rocky Moran
PJ Jones/Andy Wallace/Kenny Acheson

Rob Dyson Porsche 962C
James Weaver/Price Cobb

Joest Racing Porsche 962C (2 cars)
Hurley Haywood/Chip Robinson/Sullivan/John Winter
Bob Wollek/Winter/Frank Jelinski/Manuel Reuter

Wynns Porsche 962
John Hotchkis, Sr./James Adams/Robert Kirby/Chris Cord

Why Ask Why Porsche Gunnar
Dennis Aase/Bobby Carradine/Jay Cochran/Chip Hanauer/Carlos Moran

Momo Nissan NPTI 90-03
Gianpiero Moretti/Derek Bell/John Paul Jr/Massimo Sigala

GTL:
Comptech Acura Spice
Parker Johnstone/Dan Marvin/Steve Cameron/Doug Peterson

Scandia Buick Kudzu
Andy Evans/Charles Morgan/John Marconi/Ruggero Melgrati
Fermin Velez/Lon Bender/Don Bell/David Rocha  (2 cars)

Brix Racing Acura Spice
Bob Schader/Bob Earl/Chris Smith

Mazda Kudzu DG1
Frank Jellink/John Grooms/Jim Downing/Tim McAdam

Buick Tiga
John Macaluso/Bruce MacInnes/Ed Delong/Nick Holmes

Ford Alba
John Jones/Kenny Wilden/Neil Jamieson/Paul Duckworth/Jeff Lapcevich

Le Mans Division
TWR Jaguar XJR-12D
Davy Jones/Scott Pruett/Scott Goodyear
John Andretti/David Brabbham/John Nielsen (2 cars)

Exxon Supreme GT
Nissan 300ZX (2 cars)
Steve Millen/Johnny O'Connell/John Morton
Geoff Brabham/David Loring/Dominic Dobson/Tommy Riggins

Rocketsports Olds (2 cars)
Gentilozzi/Jack Baldwin/Dorsey Schroeder
Darin Brassfield/Calvin Fish/George Robinson

Roush Mustang (2 cars)
Kendall/Dallenbach Jr/Robbie Buhl/Jim Stevens
Kendall/Mark Martin/John Fergus/Robby Gordon

Gloy Mustang
Ron Fellows/Desire Wilson/Tomiko Yoshikawa

GTU:
Nissan 240SX
Leitzinger/Leitzinger/Chuck Kurtz

Mazda RX7
Dick Greer/Al Bacon/Peter Uria/Mike Mees

Invitational GT:
Mercruiser Corvette (2 cars)
Kim Baker/Boris Said/Peter Cunningham/Richard Valentine
Jim Minneker/Max Schmidt/Ken Payson

Porsche Carrera 2 (2 cars)
Wolfgang Mathai/Oliver Mathai/Edgar Doren/Ronny Meixner
Enzo Calderari/Sandro Angelastri/Luigino Pagotto
From: cnl@bnr.ca (Christopher Larmour)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: f1 in july/august
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:10:07 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Boleslaw Andrzej Rawicz (brawicz@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:

: Does anyone know where in Europe there will be a grand
: prix (f1) or a rally in July/August ? 

You have a choice of several Grand Prix including:

French GP
-------- 
Date   : Around 2/3/4 July (if J-MB sorts it out in time!)
Circuit: Magny Cours 
Rating : Bad access, better racing in the wet than the dry - 5/10

British GP 
----------
Date   : Around 9/10/11 July 
Circuit: Silverstone
Rating : Power cct, favours strong engines, easy to have a BBQ - 6/10  

Belgian GP 
----------
Date   : Late July/early August 
Circuit: Spa
Rating : Superb cct, great racing, good support, easy access - 9/10

Can't rememeber what comes next - Italy? Hungary? Germany? Help me out...

Ticket prices vary but you're looking at about Canadian $40 for a 
practise day entry, Canadian $130 for basic entry on race day. Paddock 
access (NB not F1 paddock!) will cost you another Canadian $15 for 
practice, or Canadian $40 for race day. Grandstands tend to be free on
the first practise day, cost canadian $30 on the Saturday, and you can
add anothe Canadian $150 to the cost of entry for a race day seat...

I wouldn't bother pre-booking - last year at Silverstone pre-booked ticket
holders had to queue while cash customers sailed straight through!
From: mike@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Mike Heisler,302 Thurston,57344,2571192)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Titanium
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:47:19 GMT
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Originator: mike@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu

From article <1993Jan22.025503.3757@netnews.whoi.edu>, by ulrich@canberra (Nathan Ulrich):
> Jim Delwiche writes
...
>> affordable.  Perhaps titanium will become common in racing (or even
>> street) engines soon.
...
> 
Actually the Autocoast Ti-? ran in the Can-Am Series back in '70 or '71
with a titanium tub I believe.  Great strength but hard to repair.

Certainly some folks out there can fill in the details for us.
-- 
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Materials Science Ctr.	302 Thurston Hall   Cornell Univ, Ithaca, NY 14853-1503
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: brawicz@fraser.sfu.ca (Boleslaw Andrzej Rawicz)
Subject: f1 in july/august
Summary: Where is grand prix in july or august?
Keywords: f1 july august
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:55:46 GMT

Hello:
  I will be going to Europe for a few weeks in july and am hoping
there will a grand prix race or a major rally somewhere in
Europe. Does anyone know where in Europe there will be a grand
prix (f1) or a rally in July/August ? I would really appreciate
if someone could tell me.
Thanks,
  B. Rawicz

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From: per@aber.ac.uk (Peter David Roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Williams fail to register!!!! plus Estoril test basics
Keywords: Teletext source
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:53:32 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

In article <zlsiida.832@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.132329.24866@aber.ac.uk> I wrote:
>
>>Shock news of the week may well go to the fact that Williams are not
>>on the list of official entries for this seasons championship!!
>>The news carried by Ceefax this morning (22nd) suggests that the team 
>>failed to get their papers in in time to count.
>
>Williams claim that as the deadline was a Sunday, the rules quite clearly 
>state that they're allowed to file their entry on the Monday, which they did.
>They're threatening FISA with legal action now.
>

Well I promised a follow up with more data so here it is
Williams are indeed claiming a valid regestration under European Law the 
point in question does relate to the fact the closing date was a Sunday. 
Under said law any contract etc whose finl day is a Sunday is automaticaly 
extended by one day. Williams entry arrived as per Euro Law on Monday
morning. Elf have already pointed this fact out and Legal action is very 
likely.

Estoril Test Monday
I don't have the times to hand but from memory
Schumacher was fastest about 1.14 something
Hill and Prost were inseprable around 1.15
the rest were some way behind especialy Sauber at 1.18
Lotus were definately better at 1.16
More detail than that ie who was testing for speed and who for distance 
I don't know
Details are from Ceefax so no doubt the full times will be posted by others
Pete
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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: INDY 500 SIMULATION
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:34:02 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Kevin Quinlan (quinlan@spsd630a.erim.org) wrote:
> F1GP is the European or PAL version of World Circuit. World Circuit
> was converted for US NTSC Amigas...
>  

Interestingly, in the UK PC version of F1GP there's a file called World.GIF
which is the title screen for the World Circuit version -- unused, in the
PAL version, but still there...

Getting off the subject, but interesting nevertheless.
> 
> 
> --
> Kevin Quinlan
> Research Engineer                                  
> Environmental Research Institute of Michigan       
> Ann Arbor, Michigan                                
> INTERNET: quinlan@erim.org                         

Kevin Quinlan formerly of Computervision (kquinlan@uk.co.cv.cvedg)...?

pete
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From: educ074@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: New Zealand Atlantics,First Qualifying
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:11:25 GMT

Craig Baird 63.31
Steve Cameron (Reynard)
Jos Verstappen Swift DB4)
Charles Nearburg (Ralt RT40)
Stuart Crow (Ralt Rt40
The first four cars were under the lap record.This is after the first
session.The first 4 being covered by 1/4 second.
hris
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: educ074@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: New Zealand Atlantics
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:20:10 GMT

Jos Verstappen will get to continue in the New Zealand Atlantic series after
all.The car is a four year old Swift DB4 chassis built up by Graeme Lawrence
racing to replace the one bent at Wigram.
The series continues this weekend at Manfield for the New Zealand G.P.
Chris.
From: tedx@tivoli.com (Ted Toth)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: racing and sports physiology
Keywords: blood sweat tears
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:51:14 GMT
Organization: TIVOLI Systems

I remember a F1 race last year where Fittipaldi wore a heart monitor. While racing his heart rate was 180 I don't remember what it was during a pit stop.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: msorsini@eos.ncsu.edu (MARCO SALVADOR ORSINI)
Subject: Basic book on vehicle dynamics
Originator: msorsini@c00560-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: msorsini@eos.ncsu.edu (MARCO SALVADOR ORSINI)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:31:36 GMT


I am taking a class this semester in Automotive Engineering and the

required book (it is really a set of articles that are bound) titled

MECHANICS OF VEHICLES has some very useful basic information for anyone

with some technical background (ie it has lots of interesting formulas

and emperical values).  It is about 100 pages long. Even though it was

printed in the late 50's the formulas and theories are still valid.

The titles of the Chapters are:

 Motion of Wheels
 Cornering and Directional Control
 Steering Forces and Stability
 Stability on a Curve
 Motion-Resisting Forces
 Resistance Forces
 Center of Gravity
 Longitudinal Stability
 Limits of Vehicle Performance
 Performance Limits (continued)
 Dynamics of Braking
 Braking Performance Limits
 Powerplant Characteristics
 Performance Prediction

On the last page it says
"Extra copies of the entire 'Mechanics of Vehicles' series, bound
 as a pamplet, may be obtained for $4.00 US each from:

   Penton/IPC Educational Division
   Rockefeller Building
   614 Superior N.W.
   Cleveland, OH  44113
   USA"

My copy obtained at the my university bookstore cost $12.50 US
I don't know if the bookstore was just gouging us or if the 
price has gone up.  I am not afiliated in any way with this company.

-- 

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Mechanical Engineering

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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: Re: Donnelly's return
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:00:15 GMT


In article <1993Jan27.171551.15538@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
mcclure@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
|>
|>I am happy to see Martin return to a F1 drive, but is this a one-off
|>testing deal or does he actually have a contract with Jordan to do
|>the whole season?

Just a test drive at the present time, I think.  I haven't heard anything about
Donnelly getting a full-season ride with Jordan.  I'd be really surprised if
that were to happen.  This is the first time the guy's getting into a F1
car in two years, after horrible injuries.  There isn't enough time for him
to get back into shape.

|>  Also, could someone please help refresh my mind.
|>What team was he driving for when he had his accident - Lotus?  And
|>did they not say at the time that they would keep a spot for him open
|>when he returned (or was that what Benetton said when Naninni had his
|>accident).  Anyway best wishes for Martin in his efforts.

It was Lotus, and yes, at the time they did say that he could try out for the
team when he recovered.

--PSW
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From: chucko@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Chuck Fry)
Subject: Re: IndyCar drivers for 1993
Organization: Recom Technologies, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:54:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.113220.1@bbs.ug.eds.com> loosli@bbs.ug.eds.com writes:
>Penske Racing has signed Paul Tracy to replace Rick Mears for the 1993 season.

A mere formality.  Although it is interesting to see Tracy get the #1
slot over Emmo!  Jeez, what a pair of drivers...

>King Motorsports has signed Jim Crawford and Al Unser to drive along side
>Roberto Guerrero at Indy.

You gotta hand it to Kenny Bernstein, he's definitely got some good
drivers on that team.  Big Al's 3rd at the last 500 was the best
finish *ever* for a Buick motor at Indy.  Anyone care to bet against
Big Al getting win #5??  And Crawford has tons of Indy experience.

I don't remember, but I think King is running the new Cosworths this
year.  Could someone verify that?

I felt really sorry for Guerrero last year.  It's good to see he's
getting a ride with a top-rank team again -- the Speedway owes him
one.

 -- Chuck Fry  Chucko@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov
From: chrisp@regenmeister.Sun.COM (Chris Prael)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Titanium
Date: 27 Jan 1993 19:29:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: regenmeister

From article <1993Jan26.174719.13718@msc.cornell.edu>, by mike@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Mike Heisler,302 Thurston,57344,2571192):
> From article <1993Jan22.025503.3757@netnews.whoi.edu>, by ulrich@canberra (Nathan Ulrich):
>> Jim Delwiche writes
> ...
>>> affordable.  Perhaps titanium will become common in racing (or even
>>> street) engines soon.
> ...
>> 
> Actually the Autocoast Ti-? ran in the Can-Am Series back in '70 or '71
> with a titanium tub I believe.  Great strength but hard to repair.

Autocoast Ti-22, obviously. 

Going a little further back, the Porsche 907s had titanium con rods.

Chris Prael
From: chrisp@regenmeister.Sun.COM (Chris Prael)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: F1: No Williams in 93? (or, oops!)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 19:20:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: regenmeister

From article <7690@sersun1.essex.ac.uk>, by aghao@sersun2.essex.ac.uk:
> PS.  'Your Nige' must be laughing his head off!

I reckon that he must be.  Especially since he and the Lola-Ford seem to
be settling into oval track work very comfortably!  On Track says that
he got within 0.4 sec of Michael's record at Phoenix before the weather
chased them under cover.

chrisp
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From: sebruun@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (steve.bruun)
Subject: Re: f1 in july/august
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:35:49 GMT
Summary: Correct July/Aug F1 Schedule


July 4		Europe (Donington Park, UK) or France (Magny-Cours)
July 11		Britain (Silverstone)
July 25		Germany (Hockenheim)
August 15	Hungary (Hungaroring)
August 29	Belgium (Spa-Francorchamps and *I'll be there!!!*)

- Steve Bruun, ...!att!ih!ihlpe!sebruun

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