HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: mandatory service
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:39:09 GMT
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <4856@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.185228.9476@ads.com>, charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>> Please name three privileges you have by virtue of being born male,
>> that I don't have because I was born female.
>
>Well, I can think of one right off the bat.  I saw a commercial for it just
>the other night.  It showed this young man behind bars.  It said, "When you
>turn 18, you have one chance to not become a criminal".  

Oooh, oooh!  I wanna have a chance to not become a criminal, too.  But I'll
bet they won't let me, 'cause I'm a girrul.

Sex discrimination, I say!  Maybe I should take it up with the National
Organization of Oppressed and Whining White Wimmin (NOOOWWW, rhymes with
"owww").

Charleen
--
Did you hear that Roseanne Barr tried to sing the National Anthem again?
She quit when the Navy fired six warning shots across her bow.
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,alt.child-support
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Sex Insurance
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:35:46 GMT

In article <l934obINNbv@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> danoc@earlybird.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan O'Connell [CONTRACTOR]) writes:
>
>(Mr. EuStress) then chastises Karen Dawn:
>
>     Of course you say "nonsense!", you're a woman -- 
>     the benefactor of injustices against men.
> 
>     If the minority can be enslaved then the majority
>     will support it.
>
>This poster, Ms Dawn, is (IMO) known as an unhappy crank.
>I would not take his garrulous illusions seriously.

How very chivalrous of you, Dano dear.

Now, run along and go carry some lady's packages for her.

Charleen

--
In 1989, women aged 55 and over spent 41 hours and 19 minutes per week
in front of the television.  The average for everyone was 29 hours and
52 minutes per week, and the average household had the television on
seven hours per day.
Newsgroups: soc.men
From: schultz@unixg.ubc.ca (Stewart Schultz)
Subject: Feminism and Porn (was Re: Biological Sex Differences?)
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:09:39 GMT

In article <10367@sun13.scri.fsu.edu> pepke@ds1.scri.fsu.edu
(Eric Pepke) writes:

>As for empirical evidence, the Dworkin/MacKinnon laws are a matter of public 
>record.  There are also various studies by the ACLU, and I have a copy of 
>a letter by the head of a regional office of the Feminist Anti-Censorship
>Taskforce describing how they have been opposed by mainstream feminist
>organizations.

And of course all 'sexually degrading' material is now criminally obscene in 
Canada, thanks to feminist activism.  But this is only half a blow against 
freedom of speech, since nobody has tried to suppress anything that's 
degrading to men yet.  I suppose that's a plus.  :-\

-S. Schultz
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,misc.legal,alt.child-support,alt.dads-rights,alt.abortion.inequity
From: bob1@cos.com (Bob Blackshaw)
Subject: Re: Jeff B.`s Conscience
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: net 
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:49:21 GMT

In <1992Aug8.000355.11679@u.washington.edu> jcr@milton.u.washington.edu (Mr. EuStress) writes:

>Jeffery Brown writes
>> The basic doctrine behind the obligation of child support is better
>> than any alternative.

>    Says you.  So long as you can pretend that that
>    child is supported by a (unwilling) father, everything
>    is "off your shoulders."   Society his content.

Well, you could always take the approach of a new type of humane
society pound. If neither parent wants the child, give it to the
pound. If it is adopted in 3 months great, otherwise put it to
sleep. Works for dogs and cats.

Now, before I get flamed as a heartless old ogre, the above is
pure sarcasm (but just about the way this whole thread has
sounded). If two people with IQs => than their age have sex, I 
assume that both are aware that birth control is not 100%
perfect. If they agree beforehand that a pregnancy will mean
abortion that is their concern. If they agree beforehand or
after the fact that a pregnancy means marriage that is also
their concern. If they agree beforehand that they are going
to dump any offspring in society's lap, as a taxpayer that
is now my concern and my simple answer is screw you. You
want to play the russian roulette of sex, but figure that
someone else should get shot if it lands on a live chamber.

Get real or grow up - better still do both.

REB

Xref: sparky soc.men:15157 soc.women:15425 alt.child-support:2791
From: danoc@earlybird.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan O'Connell [CONTRACTOR])
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,alt.child-support
Subject: Re: Sex Insurance
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:17:15 GMT
Organization: Crank Spotters, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: earlybird

(Mr. EuStress) rants:

      The government should use our tax money
      to insure people`s sexual contact.
      If a child is born then the insurer 
      (the government) should reward money
      to the primary care giver.  The Insurer
      would do its damndest to prevent conception.
      Thus men would not be made slaves to women.

Karen Dawn sensibly replies:

   nonsense!
 
(Mr. EuStress) then chastises Karen Dawn:

     Of course you say "nonsense!", you're a woman -- 
     the benefactor of injustices against men.
 
     If the minority can be enslaved then the majority
     will support it.

This poster, Ms Dawn, is (IMO) known as an unhappy crank.
I would not take his garrulous illusions seriously.

Dano
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Biological Sex Differences?
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:02:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.153039.9256@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov
(Loren I. Petrich) writes:

>	But we are talking about redressing inequities, and it is
>certainly legitimate to consider whether the means of doing so involve
>creating reverse injustices.

It is legitimate to consider it.  It is then necessary to reject it.

There's no such thing as a "reverse injustice".  There's justice and
there's injustice.  Punishing someone for discrimination that _he_ has
performed is reasonable; punishing someone for discrimination that
_someone_ _else_ has performed is not.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: sexual harassment case in Moorepark.
From: rivero@mdcbbs.com
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:29:46 GMT
Organization: Electronic Data Systems, Unigraphics Division, Cypress CA
Nntp-Posting-User: rivero


  From Moorepark, California comes an interesting sory.

  Back in 1986, a female teacher at a small college claimed a male
associate had sexually harassed her by rubbing his body against hers while
muttering,"You make me horny", or somesuch. Apparently, the accused man
had ample witnesses at the time to demonstrate that the incident did not occur,
but their supervisor (female) refused to interview the witnesses and a letter
of admonishment was added to the man's employee file, resulting in his
being passed over for an expected promotion which ultimatly went to his
accuser.

  Yesterday, the California Courts ruled that the man was wrongfully accused
and wrongfully reprimanded. His accuser was ordered to pay a $1000
settlement to the men. The college where the incident happend was ordered
to pay $90,000 in damages as well. 

  Most surprisingly, the female supervisor who had acted on the accusation
without bothering to interview the man's witnesses was also ordered to 
personally pay an additonal $90,000 in damages, thus sending a clear message
that accusation does NOT equal guilt in matters of sexual harassment, and
that even in administrative actions, the accused has a right to defend himself
aganst such chages.

  Guess the court are finally getting wise to just how common false
sexual allegations as career tool have become.

 
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From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: Equal Male Rights
Date: 18 Aug 92 21:56:52 GMT
Followup-To: soc.men,soc.women,alt.child-support
Organization: Murasami Labs


> Mathemagician writes:

> >However, I'm a bit confused by the legalese.  What phrases in the
> >above paragraph relate to him being able to sue her for child support
> >should he wish to acquire custody of his own child?
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Eric Brunner wrote:

> None, I didn't see the support question as being raised, only the custody
> question. If the candidate adoptive parent appears unable to support the
> child, what point is there in going forward with the adoption? There are
> usually better alternatves than permenent placement with a party that
> intends to litigate child support, or requires both an order and the
> sucessful execution of the order, to bring up the child.

I think you misread the section highlighted. Or you make an interesting
argument against allowing single mothers to keep custody of their 
offspring if they have to acquire child support.

Curiouser and curiouser.

K'Char
From: stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul)
Newsgroups: soc.men
Subject: Re: Pay Discrimination for Women?
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:58:41 GMT
Distribution: na

PuterDude writes
+ 
+  stricher@masig.fsu.edu (Char Aznabul) writes:
+ >Dan Welch writes
+ >
+ >+ Let's get the ball rolling!  Hire a wife today!
+ >
+ >Probably be cheaper and less trying than being married?? [1]
+ >
+ >K'Char
+ >
+ >[1] I've never been married, so I don't know the costs.
+ 
+ And by lookin' at your comment (I noticed there was NOT a smiley),
+ I would say that you don't also know of the benefits.

Which are? Are we talking prostitution here? I assume so, since
the original way-wya-back thread was about paying women to do
the housework. And if they get paid for the housework, why not
for sex, too?

K'Char - damn straight, no smilies
Xref: sparky soc.men:15012 soc.women:15285 soc.penpals:1715
From: taralee@zooid.guild.org (tara lee)
Newsgroups: soc.men,soc.women,soc.penpals
Subject: Re: DANGER!!!!
Date: 15 Aug 92 06:13:19 GMT

>>Bill Clinton sells snake oil!
>
Grin...
 
  What exactly is snake oil? And will it do wonders for my naturally curly
hair?
 
Taralee - A twit at heart <grin>
From: larry8@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Larry )
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
Subject: REQUEST: List of Public Libraries on the net
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:07:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.78168
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas



Does anyone have a copy of this list that they could send me?


Thanks,

 \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\Larry Gainor//////////////////////////////////
(((Graduate School of Library and Information Science | University of Texas)))
{{{Internet: larry8@emx.cc.utexas.edu  |  Bitnet lscu267@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu}}}
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Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
From: bs464@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Duncan R. McCoy)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: List of Public Libraries on the net
Reply-To: bs464@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Duncan R. McCoy)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 21:41:52 GMT


In a previous article, larry8@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Larry) says:

>
>
>Does anyone have a copy of this list that they could send me?
>
>
>Thanks,
>
> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\Larry Gainor//////////////////////////////////
>(((Graduate School of Library and Information Science | University of Texas)))
>{{{Internet: larry8@emx.cc.utexas.edu  |  Bitnet lscu267@utxvm.cc.utexas.edu}}}

Larry - 

I don't know that such a list exists, but would like to see one if
it does. If not, it sounds like a useful project for a library
school student, a project which might be beneficial to all of us.

Duncan R. McCoy
Boulder City Library
Boulder City, NV

duncan@helios.nevada.edu

-- 
Duncan R. McCoy
Boulder City, NV
bs464@cleveland.freenet.edu
---------------------------
From: TW.N82@isumvs.iastate.edu (BOB.PEDERSEN)
Newsgroups: soc.libraries.talk
Subject: Reviewer wanted
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:41:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Aug20.204145.15024
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

(I am posting this for a friend without Internet access.  Please
e-mail responses to tw.n82@iastate.edu.  Thank you.)

Would someone be interested in reviewing the 2nd ed. of David
Butcher's "Official Publications in Britain" (London: Library
Association Pub., 1991)?  The review is for the "Serials Librarian"
book review column; column editor is Jim Cole.  The reviewer, of
course, may keep the book.
--
Bob Pedersen
Recent graduate and flunkie, Iowa State University
Xref: sparky sdnet.general:146 sdnet.wanted:119 ca.wanted:1115
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: uc.general,sdnet.general,sdnet.wanted,ca.wanted
Subject: Piano sought
Date: 21 Aug 1992 23:16:35 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

This may be naive or futile (or both), but here goes:

I am a computer programmer at UCSD, and I play music as a hobby.  I've
been in a few 'professional' bands, but never made very much money.  I
always spent what little I did make on recordings.  Although I make a
good salary here, I am raising a daughter (3 yrs old) and supporting my
wife through law school, so I don't have any savings account.  I have
recently moved to a rental with a nice big garage, and I moved my music
stuff into it. I hope to have friends come over and play, record, work out
songs, whatever.

Having said all that, what I'm after is a piano.  I saw one at a Goodwill
up in San Francisco for $250, and it was in good shape.  I really can't
afford to spend much, if any money.  Does anyone have an piano they could
'donate' or 'sell cheap'?  It would get played by lots of asipiring
musicians, and would be much loved and taken care of by myself.  Because I
can't afford to fix it up, I do care that it sounds OK, doesn't have any (too
many?) keys that don't work, isn't missing strings, etc.  Of course, I will
tune whatever I get if necessary, so out-of-tune is no big deal.  And ugly
is fine, so long as she plays!

Thanks ahead of time.  Please email me (mbreen@ucsd.edu) if you can help out.

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and rapidly forgetting what little piano I know)
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
From: rschnapp@metaflow.com (Russ Schnapp)
Subject: Re: What IS that thing?
Organization: Metaflow Technologies Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:10:08 GMT

In article <rdippold.713660130@cancun>, rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
|> There's this nifty looking building by Miramar - it's a standard
|> building, but it's got a massive pyramid built out of girders
|> surrounding it.  What is that place?
|> -- 
|> Good fortune will find you, providing you gave directions.

It's a New Age So-Cal Crystal Healing Pyramid Power Temple.  Gosh,
didn't you know?       8-)

Actually, I think it's just another office building.  I haven't decided
whether I like it or not, but it certainly is distinctive.  You can see
it pretty easily from a radius of 15 miles or so.  It stands out when
you're flying to/from Lindbergh, as well -- especially at night.

The really neat thing is how they put the icing on that cake.  I
remember watching the building going up, and being impressed with this
glass and steel design, with two inward slanting walls and two rounded
vertical walls.  And then there was this lattice thing they were
constructing in the adjacent parking lot.  In one weekend, they erected
the lattice into the pyramid that stands astride the building.  I'm
sorry I missed seeing _that_ step!  The lighting design is elegant,
too.  Just a bunch of mercury vapor lamps mounted at the base of the
lattice, shining up through it.

-- 

...Russ Schnapp
BIX: rschnapp           Email: uunet!metaflow!rschnapp or rschnapp@metaflow.com
Metaflow Technologies   Voice: 619/452-6608x230;  FAX: 619/452-0401
La Jolla, California    Unless otw specified, I`m speaking only for myself!
From: yso@chem.ucsd.edu (Yeong Soo Oh)
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
Subject: car
Date: 13 Aug 1992 18:04:39 GMT
Organization: University of California San Diego, Chemistry
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdchemi3.ucsd.edu


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Newsgroups: sdnet.general
From: jimh@pacdata.uucp (Jim Harkins)
Subject: Re: What IS that thing?
Organization: Pacific Data Products
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:47:31 GMT

In article <rdippold.713660130@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>There's this nifty looking building by Miramar - it's a standard
>building, but it's got a massive pyramid built out of girders
>surrounding it.  What is that place?

It's either an Orchid or an Onion, depending on who you talk to.  It's also
an office building.  No kidding, just like the hundreds of standard office
buildings except it has a pyramid over it.  And I'll bet the top of it would
be a great place to see the airshow from.

jim

-- 
Lawyers Creed:  What's mine is mine, what's yours is negotiable.
--------------------------------------------------------------
Jim Harkins                         [ucsd|uunet]!pacdata!jim
Pacific Data Products               jim@pacdata.com
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Newsgroups: sdnet.general
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: What IS that thing?
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:55:30 GMT

There's this nifty looking building by Miramar - it's a standard
building, but it's got a massive pyramid built out of girders
surrounding it.  What is that place?
-- 
Good fortune will find you, providing you gave directions.
From: rolf@ames.ucsd.edu (Rolf Schreiber)
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
Subject: Internet public access sites?
Date: 11 Aug 92 20:50:22 GMT
Distribution: sdnet
Organization: U.C. San Diego, AMES Department


The thread about local BBS access, etc. got me wondering about low-cost
Internet access for simple things like email and USENET. I'm aware of
the Dial-n-Cerf program sponsored by CERFnet, but is there something
even better (cheaper? :-). Specifically, I'm trying to find a way for my
dad (currently unemployed, thanks Rockwell) to get Internet access from
southern Orange County so we can exchange mail and he can have access
to misc.jobs.whatever. Any suggestions welcome!

---
Rolf Schreiber                              Internet:rolf@ames.ucsd.edu
Applied Mechanics and Engineering Sciences  UUCP: ...!ucsd!rolf
University of California at San Diego       Voice: (619)534-5414
From: markr@sound.cts.com (Mark B. Reinhold)
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
Subject: Re: Wanted: Public Access UUCP Site in North SD county
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 08:34:08 PDT
Organization: sound.cts.com, +1 619 469 3415

mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:
> I don't see it in ComputerEdge BBS listing.  Can you add a few
> more details please?...

It used to be listed as Serenity. Rick is an editor with unix
world. It might also be known as Pnet12. He may have gone
completely pay now too. He is making money with the BBS. Anyway
the phone number that I have is 259-7757.

Tell him Mark sent you.

Then again, I am sure that He is monitoring this.



markr%sound.cts.com@Crash                    !crash!sound.cts.com!markr
Internet:sound.cts.com!markr@crash   sound (619) 469-3514
From: terry@pado.ucsd.edu (Teresa Griffie)
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
Subject: CD case found
Date: 17 Aug 1992 23:26:16 GMT
Organization: Scripps Institution of Oceanography, UCSD
Distribution: world
Reply-To: terry@pado.ucsd.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: pado.ucsd.edu


---

"I don't know about you, Miss Kitty, but I am feeling SO much yummier..."

    Teresa M. Griffie, Programmer/Analyst/Mathematician/Whatever...
    100 NORPAX 0214, Scripps Institute of Oceanography
    UCSD, La Jolla, CA  92093-0214


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From: hho@usc.edu (*** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
Subject: Air Show
Date: 14 Aug 1992 07:44:10 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: sdnet
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Is there a nice park somewhere you can watch the air show without
going into the base? Just the show on the sky only :_)
& please let me know what time the show start :_)

THanks
H.


-- 
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Hung P. Ho, Jr. (John)     USC DENTISTRY    PH.SYSTEMS          CCCOGP  
                           hho@usc.edu      hung@phsys.com      hung@cccogp.com
From: pushp@nic.cerf.net (Pushpendra Mohta)
Newsgroups: sdnet.general
Subject: Re: Internet public access sites?
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:16:07 GMT
Distribution: sdnet
Organization: CERFnet

In article <1972@deadmin.ucsd.edu> rolf@ames.ucsd.edu (Rolf Schreiber) writes:
>
>The thread about local BBS access, etc. got me wondering about low-cost
>Internet access for simple things like email and USENET. I'm aware of
>the Dial-n-Cerf program sponsored by CERFnet, but is there something
>even better (cheaper? :-). Specifically, I'm trying to find a way for my
>dad (currently unemployed, thanks Rockwell) to get Internet access from
>southern Orange County so we can exchange mail and he can have access
>to misc.jobs.whatever. Any suggestions welcome!
>


You may want to look at the weekend rates at CERFnet, $3/hr
and $8/hr toll free ( 800 number ). These apply from
Friday 5 PM to Sunday 5 PM 

Send mail to infoserv@nic.cerf.net for more information on 
POP locationa and pricing.

--pushpendra
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Public Access UUCP Site in North SD county
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Distribution: sdnet
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 02:49:51 GMT

mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley) writes:
>markr@sound.cts.com (Mark B. Reinhold) writes:
>> Serene is still up and running. Rick Farris runs it and is
>> getting a complete newsfeed everyday.

>I don't see it in ComputerEdge BBS listing.  Can you add a few
>more details please?...

Serene is now called Matchmaker BBS.
-- 
I wouldn't mind being poor if I had lots of money.
Newsgroups: sdnet.general