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From: sewon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG)
Subject: Impel X-Men Error?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 12 Dec 1992 02:23 EST  

I was flipping through my specialty card collection (I don't have that many)
and I noticed for the first time that one of my X-Men Team hologram cards 
(XH-5 from the Impel X-Men set) was printed upside down relative to the 
printing on the back.  I have two XH-5's and my second one has the front 
and back oriented in the same direction so I know that all the cards were 
not printed upside down.  Does anyone know anything about the card that 
was printed differently?  What's yours like?

Rather than flooding the group, mail me and I will summarize anything of 
importance.

 - Wayne.
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From: zardoz@sycom.mi.org (David Lillard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: RE: Free FANZINE!!!
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:11:34 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.974

You can add me to the list for a Free subscription.  David Lillard, 21111
Mapleridge, Southfield, MI  48075-5752.  Thanx; and Good Luck.
From: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Re: Which price guide?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:22:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, menchett@pyramid.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti) says:

>Hey there-
>I'm kinda having a survey here... I'm trying to figure which price guide the
>majority of the world follows. Please send your vote for the price guide you con
>sult when buying and selling comics. Thanks. <menchett@cs.unr.edu>
>

I notice most of the replies say that they think dealers use mostly
Overstreet as THE comprehensive guide for pricing.  In New York City,
I've noticed that CVM or Wizard is used more frequently.  There was
even a sotere that used both Overstreet AND Wizard and just used the
higher price.  I'm not going back there again.

Howard
-- 
Howard Shiau                       bc751@cleveland.freenet.edu
Cosyde Corporation
From: j2_webb@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Spawn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Image Books.
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:11:43 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Hi.

Could anyone give me some idea of how much Image Books are 
going for over there. I do get Wizard, but after their estimate
on Superman 75 and what ive heard from the net, I have decided that 
this is unreliable.

I do have a spare Spawn #1 and ShadowHawk #1.  If anyone is 
interested in these, then mail me via email and I will let
you know...

Thanks for the help in advance.

Jonathon.

******************************************************************

Email on       J2_WEBB@UK.AC.UWE.CSD

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: abshire@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Wendy Abshire)
Subject: Cards: Marvel Universe I: Auction
Summary: Last day for bids 
Keywords: Holograms 
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:13:35 GMT



***************************************************************************

Marvel Universe Series I Set (All 5 Holograms included)
162 card complete set NM/M condition

Minimum Bid: $50			High Bid: $55 bidder #1
						**GOING ONCE**
						**GOING TWICE**

***************************************************************************
Rules of auction:

	1. All bids in US dollars

	2. Minimum raise of $1.00

	3. Will use Going Once, Going Twice, Sold format
	   updated daily.

	4. Each bidder will be emailed with a bidder number.
	   This number will appear with new posts as high bidder.

	5. Bids should be sent email to abshire@stout.atd.ucar.edu 

*****************************************************************************


Thanks for your time.

abshire@stout.atd.ucar.edu




Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics.marketplace:4019 rec.arts.comics.misc:9375
From: kevin@rauland.UUCP (Kevin Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace,rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Harbinger #0
Keywords: Harbinger
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:31:08 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Organization: Zenith Electronics Corp.

I just received my send-away copy of Harbinger #0 on Thursday.  

Has anyone else received it ?

-- 
*******************************************************************************
Kevin Kim (kevin@raul.zenithe.com OR kevin@rauland.UUCP)
Zenith Electronics Corporation, Rauland Division, Information Systems Dept. 
2407 North Avenue, Melrose Park, IL 60160    (708) 450-8135, FAX (708) 450-2312
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: michaelp@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Pemberton)
Subject: Re: Which price guide?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:41:20 GMT

schmid@euler.math.rpi.edu (David Anthony Schmidt) writes:
>>
>>Overstreets is priced way too ridiculously low.  No comic book shop
>>would be insane enough to sell at those prices or they would go
>>bankrupt.
>>

>I can't take this nonsense any longer.  First of all, can someone explain
>to me how a comic book dealer can go broke selling anything at or above
>cover price.  Take Amazing Spiderman from 1985 to present.  There is
>not a book from this period that is not 500-2000 % of cover price in
>Overstreet.  Poor dealers buying at a fraction of cover and only making
>2000 % profit.  And you are all WRONG. There are plenty of comic book 
>stores that sell at or BELOW Overstreet, especially on recent issues that
>are ridiculously overpriced.  Every store I've been to in upstate NY
>has Hulk 393 1st print at cover price (as opposed to its $8 Overstreet
>Value). As I told Pete, I purchased yesterday Spiderman 284 and 286, one
>VF-NM, one NM, both at less than half of CVM, and far below Overstreet.
>On stuff like Silver Age, they may sell at Overstreet.  The main factor
>is grade, really high grade Silver Age fetches double Overstreet because it is
>rare.  NO MARVELS FROM 1980 UP ARE RARE IN NM!!!!!  CVM IS PUT OUT BY
>DEALERS! WAKE UP PLEASE!


>Ah that lowered my blood pressure.....

>							Dave
Absolutely.  The Overstreet Guide has been the standard for 22 (almost 23)
years now, and it continues to be the best guide in the biz.  Dealers who
use CVM only do so when they want to justify jacking up their prices to the
highest and most unreasonable levels they possibly can.  Big dealers and
knowledgeable collectors always refer to Overstre when they want to 
establish prices.  True, Overstreet can be a bit behind the times on current
"hot" issues, but in a case like Superman 75, no "realistic" price has been
set yet anyway.  (On this board, for example, I've seen prices ranging from
$10.00 to $60.00 for the bagged Supe 75...)  

Michael Pemberton
University of Illinois
 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: ckb@athena.mit.edu (Christopher K. Brown)
Subject: Re: Harbinger #0
Keywords: Harbinger
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:22:39 GMT

I got a send-away Harbinger #0 from Valiant Thursday also, and immediately
drafted and mailed a letter to them asking where my other two copies
are.  Did anyone get a multiple shipment?

If I dont get the correct number of 0's eventually,  I'm going
to me incredibly pissed.  I've heard rumors about Valiant losing
sets of coupons and records of sets that were sent in.  I hope they
are untrue.

Chris
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: cable 2 wanted
From: davisson@ab.wvnet.edu
Date: 11 Dec 92 12:24:18 -0500
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College

I was wondering if anybody has Cable number 2 for sale.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: gerry@eng.umd.edu (Gerald Emil Shukert)
Subject: Re: Image Comics #0---It begins!
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:32:27 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

In response to Image #0, shouldn't everyone try to cut all out all the
coupons they have because after the deadline the coupons will be
worthless and probably the comics anyway???????????

Thankyou,

-gerry

-- 
Still in search of those BEATLES issues...help me fulfill my dream!!!!

I don't believ in Beatles, I just believe in me...and Yoko<spit>
					-John Lennon
From: cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts)
Subject: comic auction
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 13:30:11 GMT


*********   IMAGE COUPON BOOK AUCTION   ******************

Item #1:

CYBERFORCE #1

Current Bid: $4.25  P.S.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Item #2:

WILDCATS #2

Current Bid: $3.00 N.B.
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Item #3:

SHADOWHAWK #1

Current Bid: $7.00 D.M. 
---------------------------------------------------------------------

ALL books are MT/NM and have full coupons intact.



Rules of the auction:

1) Bids held longer than one day will be marked 'going once','twice','sold'.

2) Postage on single item will be $3.00, with $1.00 per additional item.

3) I have to right to refuse any bid, and I have the right to remove the
   item from auction at any time.

4) Auction bids will only be taken Monday to Friday, Sat & Sun don't count.

5) Money order is preferred for immediate shipping, or check will have to 
   clear.

email all bids to : cliffr@pyuxf.cc.bellcore.com
Cliff.
From: zardoz@sycom.mi.org (David Lillard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Overstreet Update to Cease
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:58:10 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.974


Yesterday I was shown an article in the most recent issue of COMICS RETAILER.
It states that the Overstreet Update will cease publication with the December
cover-dated issue.

This will, IMHO, cause more pricing problems;as, as inaccurate as it was, I 
believe that the Overstreet Update more accurately reflected the "fair" prices
of the comics.  CVM is generally TOO high; and Wizard is just off the mark.

As jc says, "Caveat".  Even more in the future, with OU gone.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Subject: Re: Question on Cover
Reply-To: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Organization: Me, Myself, and I
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:46:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.010848.15393@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> rm009b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Lestat de Lioncourt) writes:
>
>  I have a copy of issue #1 of Impact's -The Web-.  The comic book is in
>mint condition, but the pages of the comic are all about 1/2 inch longer
>than the cover.  The cover isn't short, it is full size, the pages are just
>long.  
>  I was wondering how this affects the comics value.  


This type of printing error is probably considered a defect rather than
a "rare" book.
Since the book in question is valued at about $1.00 in mint, (if you can even
sell it for that much) I imagine that your book is probably worth about 
$0.25.

---

Eric Jaron Stieglitz aka ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
"With great power comes great responsibility"
We have been given the power of free speech.
Let's make sure that we use it wisely... 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: vasqus@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Steven 'Vas' Vasquez)
Subject: STAR WARS DARK EMPIRE #3 
Reply-To: vasqus@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:05:23 GMT

Keywords: 

 I'm looking to purchase a first print of this book. Please mail me all offers. Thank you...
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Friday, 11 Dec 1992 15:38:31 EST
From: AMIGA <344RPBT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: battlestar galactica lost address

To the guy who was selling me #15 I lost my entire mail account. Could
you please send me your address again so I can send the money
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: Re: Which price guide?
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 09:56:55 GMT

In article <BzAKEI.6Au@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (James Chiu) writes:
>menchett@pyramid.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti) writes:
>> Hey there-
>> I'm kinda having a survey here... I'm trying to figure which price guide the
>> majority of the world follows. Please send your vote for the price guide you con
>> sult when buying and selling comics. Thanks. <menchett@cs.unr.edu>
>
>When buying from a comic book shop, the shops mostly use
>comics value monthly.  When the shops wants to buy a comic book
>it's the price on the comics value monthly divided by two.

What are you talking about?  I don't know of a single shop that uses CVM.
And when a shop buys a comic, they buy at whatever price is reasonable (at my
shop, we pay 10% of Overstreet for Punishers, but 80% for Valiants).

>This way, the shops can earn the most profits out of all the other
>price guide books.

You don't have a very good understanding of how shops operate.

>Wizard sometimes prices too high or too low so it is inconsistent but
>realistic for real current values that very generous comic shops would go by.

Wizard is UNREALISTIC.  Period and full stop.  I would refuse to shop at any
store that prices by Wizard.

>Overstreets is priced way too ridiculously low.  No comic book shop
>would be insane enough to sell at those prices or they would go
>bankrupt.

Every single shop in Victoria, BC prices by Overstreet.  Most Vancouver shops
do likewise.  None are bankrupt.  All of the shops listed in the Overstreet
Market Reports also price by Overstreet.  Many of them are the most
successful shops on the continent.

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
-------
From: menchett@dws006.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Superman 75
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:21:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

All this noise about  Superman #75 is really getting to me. Why is that book worth so much, and why is it in demand??? You know the loser's gonna come back to life in one way or another, just like Robin and all the other crappy DC heroes who 'died.' Anyone who pays more than cover price for this book is a total fool. I don't understand where all these people trying to charge $20 for  it get off, cause I wouldn't even pay cover!! I'm more than willing to get rid of all my Superman titles, which include a fe



w vintage and some collectibles. If anyones interested, email me at <menchett@cs.unr.edu>.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: saab@ais.org (Micheal Marks)
Subject: Image Comics #0---It begins!
Organization: UMCC
 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:45:44 GMT

or, "YOU EEDIOT! YOU CUT OUT THE COUPON! NOW THE COMIC ES WORTHLESS!"
 
With the release of Youngblood #0, the final book with the Image Comics
#0 coupon is out.  With the official deadline for the sending-in of
the coupons known (Feb. 27 for the curious), the process of slicing and
dicing can begin.
 
    What I'd like to hear from all you kind people is any info about
Image #0.  I've seen some things (see below) but I'd sure like to
know about other areas of the country/world.  With at least 3 months
of hype available, there could be some interesting things happening.

    BTY, I work at a store, but I don't use this info for pricing.  I use
it to have info for customers and try to avoid the dreaded "I don't know"
response.  Hopefully others find similiar value to these "reports".  On
with the sleaze! (Drstyle grins evilly)
 
    The first thing I've been asking about is to anyone who buys multiple
copies of the coupon books, if they have Shadowhawk #1's, and how many
are they going to cut up?  I don't ridicule them (it's their business, more
power to them) but just ask out of curiousity.  So far most say that
they have a decent amount of Shadowhawk's, and that they are going to
cut up all but one or two of their currently 10-15 dollar books, because
they think the value of Image #0 will be much higher than the Shadowhawks.
They are probably right.
 
    Also, while Image wised up and made the other six coupons very hard
to reproduce with the background art, the fact remains that the Shadowhawk
coupon is reproducable.  Being out of the most expensive book, I hope
no one takes a shot, but with Greed involved...
 
    In the original information about this whole coupon thing, the statement
was made that retail outlets would get two free copies per store of 
Image #0 as long as they ordered an easily-met target number of the August
coupon books.  (Yeah, all 7 books were supposed to be out in AUGUST.  Sigh)
Since then I have heard not a thing about this still being true or untrue.
No one who should be in the know does know, so I don't know what's to know.
Anybody heard anything lately?
    
    And finally, there is a store in SW Michigan that is pre-selling the
Image #0 at $50 a pop.  While I think pre-selling a product from an
unreliable shipper is dangerous, someone IS doing it.  Anybody else
seen this, and at what prices?
 
    Well, that's it from me.  What have YOU heard?  I'll update what
I know when I know.  Thanks.
 
MDM


-- 
"To be the man, you have to BEAT the man" Ric Flair, EX-REAL World's Champion
"I'm gonna hit ya, and you're gonna fall" Ren, and Nick to John K.
"Never underestimate the greed of the American public"  Me
Micheal Marks: saab@umcc.ais.org mmarks@nyx.cs.du.edu IRC:Drstyle
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: jwl3885@zeus.tamu.edu (THIS SPACE FOR RENT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
Subject: Re: Which price guide?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:46 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <+3k2gk=@rpi.edu>, schmid@euler.math.rpi.edu (David Anthony Schmidt) writes...
>In article <BzAKEI.6Au@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> jchiu@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (James Chiu) writes:
>>menchett@pyramid.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti) writes:
> 
>is grade, really high grade Silver Age fetches double Overstreet because it is
>rare.  NO MARVELS FROM 1980 UP ARE RARE IN NM!!!!!  CVM IS PUT OUT BY
>DEALERS! WAKE UP PLEASE!

From what I understand, so is Overstreet.  I've been told their prices are
wither way too low or way too high.  

The way I figure it, the comic is only worth what someone is willing
to pay.  
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: student@nextstat2.dhhalden.no (ODH Student)
Subject: WANTED: Valkyria
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 16:25:05 GMT

Does anyone have any info on a comic called Valkyria published by Eclipse  
(probably) some 5 years ago?

Writted by Chuck Dixon with art by Paul Gulacy. Probably a 3 or 4 issue  
miniseries.

I just read the story in a Swedish b/w reprint mag and I liked it.

If anyone out there knows something, please let me know.

Nomad

-----------

Jon Lovstad			Ostfold Regional College, Halden, Norway
jonal@sofus.dhhalden.no	Priv: Hjortsbergvn 7, 1784 HALDEN, NORWAY
jonal@fenris.dhhalden.no	Phone: + 47 9 17 59 39

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: abshire@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Wendy Abshire)
Subject: Cards: Marvel Universe I:Auction Update
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:46:38 GMT



***************************************************************************

Rules of auction:

	1. All bids in US dollars

	2. Minimum raise of $1.00

	3. Will use Going Once, Going Twice, Sold format
	   updated daily.

	4. Each bidder will be emailed with a bidder number.
	   This number will appear with new posts as high bidder.

	5. Bids should be sent email to abshire@stout.atd.ucar.edu 

*****************************************************************************

Marvel Universe Series I Set (All 5 Holograms included) 
162 card complete set NM/M condition

Minimum Bid: $50			High Bid: $55.00   from bidder #1 

*****************************************************************************

Thanks for your time.

abshire@stout.atd.ucar.edu




Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: smlg1015@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Stuart M Lichtenthal)
Subject: Star Wars and Wolverine
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:30:31 GMT

I have a collection of Star Wars books that I'd like to sell:
I am the original buyer from newstands.  All the books were read
once and bagged. I have all the issues from 1 to 44 except for
4,40, and 43.  I'm looking for a price of around 80% of Overstreet.

I also have the Wolverine Limited Series 1-4.  I am the
original owner who read them once and bagged them immediately. 
I don't know if there have been more than one Wolverine series.
This is the one that Frank Miller worked on.


The price will hopefully be 80% Overstreet.  If you know a
Comics Shop which is already selling at that price, then offer
something lower.


Stuart Lichtenthal 
smlg1015@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts)
Subject: comic auction
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:45:57 GMT


Item #1:

PLATINUM Edition of Magnus Robot Fighter vs. Predator


Minimum Bid: $40.00    

----------------------------------------------------------------------


Rules of the auction:

1) Bids held longer than one day will be marked 'going once','twice','sold'.

2) Postage on single item will be $3.00, with $1.00 per additional item.

3) I have to right to refuse any bid, and I have the right to remove the
   item from auction at any time.

4) Auction bids will only be taken Monday to Friday, Sat & Sun don't count.

5) Money order is preferred for immediate shipping, or check will have to 
clear.

email all bids to : cliffr@pyuxf.cc.bellcore.com
Cliff.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.marketplace
From: cliffr@pyuxf.uucp (25347-roberts)
Subject: comic auction
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:49:45 GMT


Comic Auction: Sets and limited edition issues:

***********  NOTE: NEW BIDS  *******************
---------------------------------------------------------------------

Item #1:

GOLD LOGO Archer & Armstrong #0

Current Bid: $70.00 P.E.   GOING TWICE ***   

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Item #2:

Set of all 12 Executioners Song X-Men Crossover

Current Bid: $20.00 D.B. SOLD  ***

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Item #3:

Full set of all seven (7) Death of Superman issues w/ bagged #75.

Current Bid: $41.00 J.R. SOLD  *** 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------

Rules of the auction:

1) Bids held longer than one day will be marked 'going once','twice','sold'.

2) Postage on single item will be $3.00, with $1.00 per additional item.

3) I have to right to refuse any bid, and I have the right to remove the
   item from auction at any time.

4) Auction bids will only be taken Monday to Friday, Sat & Sun don't count.

5) Money order is preferred for immediate shipping, or check will have to 
clear.

email all bids to : cliffr@pyuxf.cc.bellcore.com
Cliff.