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From: raxter@bnr.ca (Steve Raxter )
Subject: Re: query re: drugs and us security cleara
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:35:15 GMT

In article <726311301.AA00104@ship.wimsey.bc.ca>, Shadowfax@f729.n153.z1.ship.wimsey.bc.ca (Shadowfax) writes:
|> 
|>  RR> From: RR04@bunny.gte.com (Rob Robertson)
|>  RR> Organization: GTE Laboratories
|> 
|>  RR> At the induction center I admitted that, yes, I did try marijuana once, 
|>  RR> and that was it. The FBI's $20,000 Top Secret Clearance -out the window.
|> 
|>  RR> My career in crypto - gone. And the funny thing was that the guy who 
|>  RR> interviewed with the doctor right after me denied everything, gave all
|> the
|> 

I had also listed past MJ in the SC interview, however I 
had no problem in getting a TSSC.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gaspar@inf.ethz.ch (gaspo)
Subject: Re: rules for LSD
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:50:23 GMT

In article <dc.726469944@ais.org> dc@ais.org (David Daniels) writes:
>drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Danny) writes:
>>In article <726201680.AA00091@ship.wimsey.bc.ca>, Diva@f729.n153.z1.ship.wimsey.bc.ca (Diva) writes:
>>
>>> 1) Cars can hurt you.
>>> 2) You cannot fly.
>>> 3) Its never a good time to die.
>>
>>      " 1) cars are real.
>>        2) you can't fly
>>        3) taking you clothes off will draw attention.
>>        4)  ... and I forget the fourth thing           "
>
> Keep mouth shut at all times in public.
> Although you may see things that are not there, you won't NOT see things
>that aren't there

there are some that I've heard..

?) don't forget how to burp
?) only carry a house-key, some loose change, and your address in your shoe
?) nobody can tell you are tripping till you tell them "I'm tripping".

and (what I consider most important)..

?) no matter how fucked you think you are, you'll eventually come down.

I just wish the world was a more friendly place where standing on the
street corner and just staring at things was acceptable.  You can do
that in art-galleries and such, but it be nice in other places too.
Nothin better than Saturday Morning Real Life Cartoons!

--gaspo. "not as far out of my mind as I'd like".


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:25:50 GMT

lemay@netcom.com (Laura Lemay) writes:

>I've never known a man who didn't get massively horny from taking
>nitrous.  I've also never known a woman who did (which, alas, includes
>myself.)

   Strange. I don't get particularly horny, but the idea of sex is so
utterly hilarious that I might want to do it just for kicks. The bouncing
of sex added to already existent bouncing of everything that is and isn't
seems so totally irrational that it's absolutely necessary. Am I making myself
clear? ;-)
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi		Finger for PGP key
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
From: margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis)
Subject: Re: Looking for info on abortifacents
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:14:32 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16f by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: margoli@watson.IBM.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed
Followup-To: talk.abortion

In <1993Jan10.172652.16111@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>In article <1993Jan9.220227.20159@news.cs.indiana.edu>
>"amy lynn young-leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>
>> Perhaps she is past the 12 week mark and the state only allows abortions
>> for certain reasons after that point, or another point.
>
>The Supreme Court decision which legalized abortion, Roe v. Wade,
>is unrestricted abortion-on-demand throughout pregnancy.  Under
>Roe, states may not prohibit abortion for any reason, during any
>part of pregnancy.

This is a lie, debunked repeatedly in talk.abortion.  States have passed
abortion restrictions, *since* Roe v. Wade, which the Supreme Court has
found to be constitutional.  See Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

>And to the original poster, I would like to suggest that they
>can find people who are very willing to help them with an
>unplanned pregnancy.  You can start by looking in the Yellow
>Pages under the heading "pregnancy counseling".

The original posters said it was a life-threatening situation; sending them
to phoney clinics who want to buy babies isn't much help.
--
Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: CBS 48 hours on LSD ;)
Date: 5 Jan 1993 07:24:29 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <CIAMAC.93Jan4002455@whitechapel.media.mit.edu> ciamac@media.mit.edu writes:
>I thought it was supposed to be ABC's Nightline.

Nope, it's definitely 48 hours.  I was almost going to be on it... the 
producer, Kathleen O'Donnell, called me up and asked if she could interview
me on a story about "raves".  Turns out she (or another 48 hours fogey) had
been reading sfraves (the San Francisco rave mailing list) messages for a 
few weeks.  She had already spent time with Genesis P Orridge, who told them
about the computer networks (sfraves, alt.rave, and alt.drugs for example).
I thought great, this would be a chance to tell people exactly what raves
are _really_ about rather than this BS hysteria the media tends to heap on us.
But after one phone conversation it quickly became obvious that the main story
was on LSD, with a side-bar story on raves.  While I won't deny the use of LSD
at raves, I got severely annoyed by the implication that raves were simply a
convenient place to dose oneself.  When I told her I knew many many people who
go to raves every week who never take drugs, she told me I was simply wrong.
I saw quickly that she was a Reporter who had a Story to Write (all capitals
intended) and my blathering about community and tribalism would be ignored.
She then proceeded to tell me all about the DANGERS of LSD, like the "fact"
that dealers put strychnine in most batches, that these "tattoos" (yes, she
used that word) were sometimes being given to schoolchildren free to make
"addicts" out of them, that it caused people to go insane, etc.  I could not
believe it.  *sigh*.  I'll be watching it for sure... I'll also have my 
barf-bag close by (gee, I wonder if she recorded the part of our conversation
where I told her to fuck off, in a more polite tone of course...)

	Brian

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: an3886@anon.penet.fi (Toker)
Subject: Morning Glory - Again
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:47:17 GMT

I have inquired and found out that 1kg of MG seeds would cost about 400-700 IS 
(Israeli Shekels, or around $150-300), varying depending on species and so on.
I would like to know if this sounds like a good deal (ill settle for ok deal).

Second id like to get as much information as possible (through E-mail) since 
i figured this subject has been widly discussed here...i need info on how to
extract the substance and use and so on.

BTW - would anyone happen to know why a hemp plant started turning purple ?
(its pretty cold here...gets down to 5c. though the seeds are from plants grown
in the sinai desert where it gets much colder...)

has anyone had any use with the hydroponics they sell for home use (and how much are they...?) phototrons i suppose...

well do toke on!

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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: Looking for info on abortifacents
Followup-To: sci.med
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:38:21 GMT

dart@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan) writes:

>	I need any possible information about publicly available abortifacents
>(miscarriage-inducing substances).  Both chemical and herbal substances are
>of extreme interest at this point.  Any information you can give would be
>most helpful.  Feel free to reply via email.

>	No jokes or flames, please.  This is a situation in which the
>choice lies between the death of a fetus and the death of my wife.
>	Thank You.
>						Sean Cannon

	Did it ever occur to you that the situation might be important
enough to merit going to a doctor?  Abortion is legal in the US you know,
especialy if the situation is how you describe.

Jim Del Vecchio
From: hwangk@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Kai Hwang)
Newsgroups: alt.co-evolution
Subject: ~{CUSo~}
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:29:29 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA

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Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,rec.arts.books
From: sbrock@teal.csn.org (Steve Brock)
Subject: The Italian Presence in American Art by Irma Jaffe
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:37:35 GMT

THE ITALIAN PRESENCE IN AMERICAN ART 1860-1920, edited by Irma B.
Jaffe.  Fordham University Press, Bronx, NY  10458.  Illustrated,
notes, bibliography.  265 pp., $50.00 cloth.  0-8232-1342-0

                             REVIEW

     Co-published with the Instituto della Enciclopedia Italiana in
Rome, this book is published on the heels of Jaffe's initial
investigation of Italian art in America: "The Italian Presence in
American Art 1760-1860."  Both books are based on Fordham
University's 1987 and 1988 symposia of the same titles.
     The primary question Jaffe tries to answer is one that
American artists have grappled with for many years: what should
American art express?  Should it be a reflection of a European
past, or an independent cultural form?  Jaffe believes that the
artists have combined a European (and primarily Italian) past with
an American present.
     In the present volume, Jaffe has assembled seventeen essays by
preeminent art historians in the fields of painting, sculpture, and
architecture.  Included are Lillian Miller on Botticelli, Lisa
Peters on John H. Twachtman, Francis V. O'Connor on the U.S.
Capitol Rotunda murals, Timothy Rub on the architecture of Cass
Gilbert, Carol M. Osborne on Lizzie Boott, and Margherita Azzi
Visentini on Italian gardens in America.
     The book is well-illustrated, but there are only 16 color
plates.  Several of the black-and-white photographs are archival
prints and consequently are murky.  Still, Jaffe gives the student
of art history a meaningful and relevant guide to the period in
which Italy was "America's muse."

Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,rec.arts.books
From: sbrock@teal.csn.org (Steve Brock)
Subject: Los Angeles by Santi Vasilli (Photography)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:52:44 GMT

LOS ANGELES, photographs by Santi Visalli.  Rizzoli International
Publications, Inc., 300 Park Avenue South, N.Y., NY  10010. 
Illustrated.  224 pp., $55.00 cloth.  0-8478-1590-0

                             REVIEW

     Beginning and ending at the beach, this photographic tour of
the "City of the Angels" covers just about every metaphor, but
ultimately portrays the city as a conglomeration without an
identity.  I was born in beautiful downtown Burbank, and Visalli
echoes my own sentiments exactly.
     In over 200 color photographs, Visalli shoots the standard
L.A. fare: freeway interchanges, the skyline, the "HOLLYWOOD" sign
that always gets changed, distinctive architecture (that can be
found in just about any city), murals and frescoes, Rodeo Drive,
Watts Towers, the Spruce Goose and the Queen Mary, the Theme
Building at L.A. International Airport, Chinatown, and several
filler shots that could have been taken anywhere.  
     What is it about a car fire that is special to L.A.?  There is
no soul and little character to the shots, except, perhaps, to say
that everything in the city is an advertisement.
     The book is best given to someone who is planning a trip to
L.A. but who has never been there before.  Anyone who has spent
much time there will instantly say, "I've already seen that," and
be instantly bored.  That is the worst thing that can happen to
someone in, or from, L.A.
     Visalli has also photographed for books on the cities of San
Francisco, Chicago, and Boston.

Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,rec.arts.books
From: sbrock@teal.csn.org (Steve Brock)
Subject: The Magdalens: Islands of Sand by George Fischer
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:04:29 GMT

THE MAGDALENS: ISLANDS OF SAND by George Fischer.  Nimbus Publish-
ing Limited, P.O. Box 9301, Station A, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada 
B3K 5N5.  Illustrated.  88 pp., $24.95 cloth.  
1-55109-018-X

                             REVIEW

     The Magdalens are a group of twelve islands in the Gulf of St.
Lawrence, claimed by Quebec.  The islands are sandy, but there is
so much more to offer that upwards of 15,000 people reside there
while over 20,000 visit the area every year.
     This book of photographs portrays the islands as bastions
against wind and waves - offering a wealth of attractions to
fishermen, windsurfers, sunbathers, bicyclists, and those who
appreciate a rustic and unhurried lifestyle.
     The sand of the islands is covered with wild green grasses
that try, but fail to mute the brightly painted houses of blue and
yellow in the small settlements of Chemin des Caps or Chemin des
Fumoirs.  In March, Harp seals take over the ice floes just west of
the Magdalens and bring forth their young. 
     Fischer has painted a glowing portrait of an area where time
passes slowly.  While the book excites the mind and creates a
desire for more information, it is unfortunate that there is no
bibliography.

Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,rec.arts.books
From: sbrock@teal.csn.org (Steve Brock)
Subject: The Skin Diver Magazine Book of Fishes by Hillary Hauser
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:09:28 GMT

SKIN DIVER MAGAZINE'S BOOK OF FISHES, SECOND EDITION, edited by
Hillary Hauser.  Gulf Publishing (Pisces imprint), P.O. Box 2608,
Houston, TX  77282-2608.  Illustrated, index, bibliography, chart
of fish evolution.  192 pp., $32.50 cloth.  1-55992-054-8

                             REVIEW

     As a boy, my aunt and uncle took me on many fishing trips off
the coast of southern California.  On their boat, the Dingbat, I
hauled in bass, yellowtail, barracuda, shark, sculpin that I threw
back, and my favorite - halibut.  We'd pull into the marina, clean
the fish, and my uncle would barbecue the choicest ones that night
while I pestered him for sips of beer, which he slipped to me when
my mother wasn't looking.  I often wondered, though, what kinds of
fish were swimming by my hook.  
     Hauser, a past "Fish of the Month" columnist for Skin Diver
Magazine, has collected the best of these columns in a new edition,
showcasing several talented underwater photographers such as Carl
Roessler, Howard Hall, Jack McKenney, John Randall, and Susan
Swygert, with seven essays on photographing fishes.
     There are forty-six entries, beginning with a classification
(such as Batfishes), and giving information on, and a full-page
color illustration of, a representative member, or members, of the
group.  For the classification Batfishes, the essay pertains to the
Galapagos Batfish.  Each essay tries to give a general description
of the fish, its range and family, growth cycle and habits, and
diet.
     The essays, however, are quite inconsistent.  Some classifica-
tions have a general essay and several on representative members
which go into much detail.  Others have only rudimentary informa-
tion on the specific type.
     While the essays are variable in their informational content,
the photographs portray the fish as close as the photographer can
get, showing detail in front of a contrasting background.  My
favorite one is of a Yellowhead Jawfish, standing on its tail
halfway out of its hole, like a soldier at attention.
     As an introduction to the types of fish in the ocean (swimming
by your hook), the book fares well.  Those looking for more detail
will benefit from the bibliography.

Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,rec.arts.books
From: sbrock@teal.csn.org (Steve Brock)
Subject: Anders Nagel by Edward Lucie-Smith (art)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:26:00 GMT

ANDRES NAGEL by Edward Lucie-Smith.  Rizzoli International
Publications, Inc., 300 Park Avenue South, N.Y., NY  10010. 
Illustrated, bibliography, filmography, chronologic biography, list
of exhibitions, list of public collections, list of illustrations. 
247 pp., $75.00 cloth.  0-8478-1598-6

                             REVIEW

     When Nagel and Lucie-Smith get together to go over slides for
their book, they don't want to be disturbed.  In a photograph on
the page that fronts the introduction to this new monograph, both
men look extremely put-out, and Nagel is pointing toward the door
with his thumb.
     Now that they are done, the reader is beckoned into a
confusing and changing world of invention and introspection. 
Nagel, a 44-year-old sculptor from San Sebastian, in Spain's Basque
country, is a solitary figure whose works are richly evocative, yet
sometimes baffling.  I am indebted to Lucie-Smith for his percep-
tive interpretation and commentary.
     Nagel's sculptures are frequently collages that draw from
numerous media and elements within one piece.  This trait has
caused him to be labeled as a Pop Artist.  While there are pieces
to which the term readily applies, Nagel also incorporates
religious imagery, folk art, myth, and Neoclassic and Surrealist
themes.
     Lucie-Smith devotes ten chapters to Nagel's development,
chronicling two decades of increasing maturity in the 1980s and
90s, and branching out into different themes and motifs: dragon
imagery, the creation of chairs, musical and animal patterns, gods
and goddesses, and fantastic worlds, on metal, polyester, and
fiberglass.
     Several of his sculptures are hard to understand (Lucie-Smith
calls them haunting, disturbing, and original).  Especially
confusing are some of the titles Nagel uses.  A green cow with a
horseman on its back and the word "Schwep" across the side is
called "Monkey Business."  One of his more famous works reveals the
toes of a foot sticking out vertically from the top of an old black
shoe and is titled "Red Like Coca Cola."  Lucie-Smith suggests that
this may be a Freudian (a shoe is a common symbol for the vagina)
suggestion of sexual dysfunction.
     However interpreted, Nagel's works, especially his recent
ones, are refreshing, playful, irreverent, and original.  Lucie-
Smith's knowledge of Nagel's complexities are extremely helpful in
understanding the artist's motivations.  The book is a fascinating
tribute.
Newsgroups: alt.books.reviews,rec.arts.books
From: sbrock@teal.csn.org (Steve Brock)
Subject: Fragile Ecologies by Barbara C. Matilsky
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:11:13 GMT

FRAGILE ECOLOGIES: CONTEMPORARY ARTISTS' INTERPRETATIONS AND
SOLUTIONS, edited by Barbara C. Matilsky.  Rizzoli Publishers, 300
Park Avenue South, N.Y., NY  10010.  Illustrated, index,  bibliog-
raphy, notes, list of illustrations.  138 pp., $24.95 paper.  0-
8478-1592-7

                             REVIEW

     This is the catalogue of the art show of the same name, now
showing at the Queens Museum of Art (Flushing Meadows-Corona Park)
through January 10, 1993.  Matilsky is the museum's curator.
     The show, which celebrates the completion of the museum's
lengthy renovation, displays the environmental directions of twelve
artists who are actually artistic scientists.
     The show is hard to figure and much of it must be taken on
faith.  The actual works of art are all outside in other places of
the world.  The visitor must read, watch videotapes, and look at
pictures and replicas of them.
     The scope of the catalogue is even narrower, but somehow the
concepts are clearer.  The book begins with Matilsky's essay on the
importance of ecology to human survival.  She also looks at the
history of ecological art, going back to cave paintings and other
art that reveres nature.  She then turns to the profiled artists.
     Most of these artists have performed some sort of reclamation,
such as Patricia Johnson, Helen Mayer Harrison and Newton
Harrison's conversion of lagoons in several states into mini-
wildlife preserves, Alan Sonfist's planting of native vegetation
where buildings once stood, or Mierle Ukeles' "Flow City," an
interactive garbage disposal facility, located at West 59th St. and
the Hudson River.  Ukeles is the only artist-in-residence for the
New York Sanitation Department.
     Hardest to understand is Betty Beaumont's "Ocean Landmark"
project, where she deposited 17,000 blocks of recycled coal ash in
the ocean to create a 150-foot-long ecosystem three miles off the
coast of the Fire Island National Seashore, creating an artificial
reef where fish and other ocean life thrives.  There are underwater
photographs of the work, and a mock-up display at the show, but the
actual underwater environmental processes will have to be taken on
faith.
     This is the perfect book for those who appreciate environmen-
tal art, but more importantly, it's for those who still don't
believe that artists can change the natural world instead of just
reproducing it on canvas or sculpture.

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