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From: mluders@snuffy.wa.atk.com (Matthew_Luders)
Subject: Re: HELP!
Summary: Check video card
Organization: Alliant TechSystems Inc.
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 17:41:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.152416.19336@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (COBURN  NICHOLAS SCO) writes:
>
>I started experiencing a problem today, and I really need to fix it as soon
>as possible.  When I start my Mac, almost immediately after pressing the power
>button, I hear the ascending chimes noise (not the regular startup chord).  It
>seems that it plays these before it even has time to access the disk, which 
>leads me to think it is not a disk problem.  After a couple times, it will boot
>up normally, and then everything seems fine.
>
>I went in with Norton, and it says that the disk is in fine condition.  Could 
>this be an actual hardware problem?  Realize that when it plays the chimes, the
>startup process just stops, and nothing is on the screen (not even a sad mac).
>
>I am using a MacIIci with system 7.0.1 and tune-up 1.1.1.  32bit on, virt.
>memory off.  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
>
>
Nicholas:

The chimes you're hearing mean a hardware error occured during one of the Mac's
self-tests.  These include tests of the RAM and the monitor.  I've personally
experienced the "failed monitor test" chimes.  It turned out to be a bad video
card for an Ehman two-page monitor.  My symptoms were also intermittent.

What kind of monitor are you using?  You might want to check your video cable
connections and make sure the video card is firmly seated in its slot (be
sure to ground yourself first--if you zap it with static electricity, you'll
definitely have a video problem!)  If there are other IIci's available to you,
you could also try using your video card in another IIci.  If it exhibits the
same symptoms, then you can be pretty sure you've got a bad video card.

One other idea: there is a free utility from Apple called Diagnostic Sound
Sampler that plays the different chimes and tells you what each means.  It's
probably available on ftp.apple.com or one of the other Mac ftp sites.

Hope this helps.

Matt Luders
(mluders@snuffy.wa.atk.com)
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: 8*24 GC card ... again
Date: 22 Jul 1992 15:17:40 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <92204.154539K360171@ALIJKU11.BITNET> K360171@ALIJKU11.BITNET
(Norbert Mueller) writes:
>I just read the A/UX 3.0 read me file:
>
>"A/UX 3.0 doesn t support acceleration of the Macintosh Display Card
>8*24 GC"
>
>nor does it run on Quadras, nor does it provide decent acceleration...
>
>Doe anybody know about Apple s plans with this "product"?

Until September 30, Apple is giving refunds to Quadra owners with GC cards.
Following is an excerpt from the announcement:

-------------------------------------

Any customer who qualifies for a 8o24 GC Video Card cash refund must contact
the fulfillment house at 1-800-824-7779 (8:00 a.m.-5:00 p.m., Mountain Standard
Time) to request an 8o24 GC Video Card Refund Program Return Form.  This form
includes specific instructions on how to receive a cash refund and packaging
materials to return the GC card.  All return forms and packaging materials will
be sent directly to the customer.

-------------------------------------

Maybe there's a similar program for A/UX users?

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: add@is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE/30 Internal Greyscale
Date: 25 Jul 1992 21:28:10 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Jul25.033117.9555@scott.skidmore.edu> pwan@scott.skidmore.edu (peter wan) writes:
>tamone@uni2a.unige.ch writes:
>> To have grey-scale on a se/30 is there a need for a special external
>> monitor...
>
>Yes, and also the necessary video interface card.
>

Not true.  The monitor (CRT more specifically) will handle whatever inputs it
is driven at.  It will handle grey scale fine.

>> ...or the built-in one can do it ?
>
>No. The on board video circuitry driving the 9 inch tube of the SE/30
>supports black/white only.
>Although 32-bit color QuickDraw is built into the SE/30, you can't
>take advantage of it (i.e. you don't SEE color/greyscale) without an
>appropriate external monitor setup.  

True, but the circuitry can be bypassed.  The (formerly?) Micron Xceed 
Color/30 board (for 8bit on an external monitor) can take an adapter attachment
that will allow the internal monitor to display 8bit greyscale.  If you simply
MUST have 8bit greyscale on the internal of an SE/30, it will cost you around
$280 for the video card and $80 for the internal adapter.  Look for it in
major Mac Catalogs.

>> Francois
>> 
>
>-Peter


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From: joshua@lclark.edu (Josh Rochester)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.multimedia
Subject: Phillips CD Recorder
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:58:47 GMT
Organization: Lewis and Clark College

I recently read a blurb in popular science for a Phillips CD recorder that,
at $6000, records CD audio, CD-I, and CD-ROM discs. Does anyone know anything
further on this box? Does anyone have the address for Phillips consumer
electronics so that I can send for information? The magazine didn't include
the contact info, and I can't seem to find it anywhere else.

Thanks
Josh Rochester
joshua@lclark.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: daniel@vicorp.com (Daniel Dee)
Subject: Price Club & PB100
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:37:00 GMT

I called up Price Club in CT and they said that
I have to have a business or be a CT state employee
to join. Membership is $25. They won't quote the price
of the PB100 or comment on their stock over the phone.

Since I don't own a business and am not a state
employee, an $800 PB100 seems beyond my reach.
Is that true?

Any comments is appreciated.

-- Daniel
From: lumpy@cup.portal.com (Larry E Woodard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: LPS105 vs. Maxtor 120
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:08:27 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

It has been my experience that the Maxtor 120 is a tad flakey (shame, because
the 200 I have is a star).  I have run through 3 of these drives this month
befor I got one that ran for an extended period.  Problem with teh Quantum 
right now is that they are hevily allocated (shortage), and prices and 
delivery times are growing as a result.  Perhaps you can find one of the
Fujitsu 130 drives still?  They have deen discontinued, but are know for 
their reliability (bulletproof!).

regards,
lw
From: david@kocb.astem.or.jp (David Fraser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac LC 512k VRAM
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:16:02 GMT
	<1992Jul21.045317.20997@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
Organization: KUBOTA Corp., ASTEM RI, Kyoto, Japan
In-reply-to: bliever@frith.egr.msu.edu's message of 21 Jul 92 04:53:17 GMT


>>$150???  I bought my 512K VRAM for $69 and that was last August!  You should be
>>able to find a mail order place selling for under $70 now pretty easily.  

2 weeks ago, I bought my 512K VRAM for $45, mail order, from Lifetime
Memory Products (+714-969-2421).

David
From: streater@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Tim Streater)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: 4mbyte SIMMs for IIsi & Q700
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:36:06 GMT

I have a IIsi which I would like to expand to 17mbytes. I may however in the not
too distant future wish to replace it with a Q700. If I purchase 80 nsec SIMMs,
can I simply move them into the Q700 at the appropriate time or do the two
Macs use different SIMMs in some fashion?

Thx for any info - Tim.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: haney@tramp.Colorado.EDU (HANEY PATRICIA J)
Subject: Re: LaCie hard drives
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:16:57 GMT

>I am also looking for recommendations for a good external Quantum-based
>drive, around 120 meg.  I would gladly buy from APS (I have one of their
>tape drives), but I want something small and rugged enough to carry home,
>like a Cirrus or Tsunami, and APS doesn't have anything like that.  Anyone
>have suggestions as to where to find such a drive at a good price?
>
>Kyle Cave
>Vanderbilt University
>cavekr@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu

My fiance is a Mac programmer. He has an APS Portable drive that he's 
constantly hauling back and forth from work on his motorcycle, eighty
miles a day. It's a small case, 2" x 6" x 8" with the power supply 
included in the box, not separate. He used to pack it in its original
foam before putting it in his backpack, but now he just drops it alone 
in his backpack for the ride home. It's held up quite well for the 
four months he's been toting it between home and work. I'd suggest getting
an extra power cable so you can leave one at home and have one at work.
The APS drive takes the same power cable as any Macintosh, it should be
easy to find an extra cable since Apple now packs two in the LC boxes.
Unfortunately, APS is remanufacturing their Portable case and that config-
uration won't be available for at least a couple of months, according to 
them. The external drive setup they make is quite reliable and sturdy (if
not rugged) and that would be my recommendation (if you can wait....).

Good luck!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: isr@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Michael S. Schechter - ISR group account)
Subject: Re: MIcron or Lapis allow  small screen use?
Organization: Institute for Sensory Research
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 10:35:41 EDT

In article <1992Jul23.203153.21732@EE.Stanford.EDU> anderson@mardi-gras.Stanford.EDU (Greg Anderson) writes:
>In article <BrusM7.MKC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:
>>Does either the Micron or Lapis card allow use of the SE/30 screen
>>when plugged into a color monitor?
>>-Terry
>
>The Lapis card definitely does (I have one), and I would assume that the
>Micron card would too. 
>
>-greg
>
>Greg Anderson
>Stanford University
>anderson@gloworm.stanford.edu
The Micron with internal greyscale adapter allows you to use it
in
 internal greyscal w/no external monitor OR external color with internal
1-bit.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: kgng@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Ng Kim Guan)
Subject: Wanted: latest driverss: Mobius 030/2pg disp for SE
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 11:24:13 GMT

I am posting this for a friend:

   Could some kind soul please send me the latest drivers for the
   Mobius 030/2 page display for the SE? I need at *least* version
   4.98.

   I have tried contacting Mobius in the U.S. from here in Australia
   but that has come to nothing after quite some time. Please help!

If it is too difficult to mail, could someone please point me to a ftp
site with the software (if any) or maybe an e-mail address at which
Mobius can be contacted.

Thanks heaps for your time,
Regards,

-Kim
From: laver@ucsd.edu (Mick Laver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook SCSI to female system cable?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 13:18:16 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: homey.ucsd.edu
Keywords: powerbook scsi

I'm trying to connect a Caere hand scanner up to a powerbook 170.
Unfortunately, the scanner comes with a standard SCSI system connector. I
haven't been able to find ANYONE (Apple, Caere, Interex) who makes - or knows
of someone who makes -  a female system-to-male powerbook-type adapter. Net?
Thanks.
From: Mark.J..Sisson@p842.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Mark J. Sisson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Leaving Monitor on
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:21:00 -0500

 
  DS> There has been quite a bit of discussion as to whether it is ok (or
  DS> preferrable, or harmful, etc.) to leave your Mac "all the time". I
  DS> don't want to restart this here. However, I don't recall having seen
  DS> any discussion as to whether it is harmful (even if you have some sort
  DS> of screen saver program) to leave your monitor on all the time. Does
  DS> someone have any recomendations/experiences? Any info would be
  DS> appreciated!
 As far as I know,just leaving it on does no harm. You may wish to turn the
color and contrast all the way down (so it shows NO image). This is what I do
all the time! Hope this helps. Mark S.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jackb@mdd.comm.mot.com (Jack Brindle)
Subject: Re: LaserWriterSC upgrades?
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:49:56 GMT

In article <92211.135507U33695@uicvm.uic.edu> John Walsh <U33695@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>I have a LaserWriterSC which is painfully slow, about 2-3 pages per minute
>printing simple text when hooked to a MacSE.  Is there any way to speed up
>this printer?  Would a memory upgrade help? A better print spooler (I use
>PrintMonitor)? A logic board swap?
>Help!
>John Walsh
>U33695@UICVM.BITNET

Actually a logic upgrade does wonders for speeding up the LWSC. I found
that when I upgraded from a Mac Plus to a IIci the Laserwriter speeded
up dramatically. I recently connected it to a Quadra 700 and found
further improvement. In fact with the Quadra it printed faster than
the LW IIg down the hall. Of course the Quadra had other beneficial
effects when I wasn't printing ;-).

Seriously, your upgrade possibilities are to go to a IIf or IIg board.
The price will be in the $1K - $2K range for the upgrade. This is
really not very far off from the price of a new IIsi or IIci. Given
this info, I would personally rather upgrade the main CPU and keep
the LW as it is (which is exactly what I did...)

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From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Quadra 700 + VRAM+ Apple 16 inch = HUH?!!??!
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:03:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Jul21.170301.23358
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

rsherman@mthvax.cs.miami.edu (Roby Sherman) writes:

>Would/Could someone please explain to me WHY if you take a Quadra 700,
>hook it to an Apple 16-inch monitor, and add a VRAM upgrade that you get
>8-bit (256 colors) and 24-bit (millions) but NO 16-BIT (thousands)???

    Simple, because originally when Apple designed the on-board video
support of the Q700/900 they didn't impliment 16bit color. This has been
implimented on the 950, as a way to get more than 8bit color on a 21"
monitor with 2MB VRAM.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
From: kc@netcom.com (Dameon D. Welch)
Subject: Re: Mac SE/30 Questions!!
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 03:14:09 GMT
Organization: Wayne's World, Inc -- NOT!
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Jul27.212407.3166@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:
>I'm thinking about buying a used Macintosh SE/30 and have some general
>questions about the machine.
>
>1) Do all SE/30s have 1.44 Meg SuperDrives?

They come with Superdrives, all of them.

>2) Are the ROMs 32 bit clean?

No, the ROMs aren't 32-bit clean, but you can get Connectix's MODE32 for
free.

>3) Do they have built in FPUs?

Yes, they do.




-- 
   Dameon Welch      Santa Clara University Design Center      kc@netcom.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: mfterman@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Mutant for Hire)
Subject: Looking for 4mb simm supplier
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:29:06 GMT

I've decided that 8mb is nice, but more would be useful especially the
way I load up applications all at once. What's a good supplier for 4mb
simms for a Mac IIci? Fully aware of how to install them and the
dangers that are involved with such a process.


-- 
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"The parts of the universe I don't control are stomping all over the parts of
  me that control the parts of the universe I do control." - Martin Terman
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Where is Price Club?
Date: 22 Jul 1992 21:44:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: concertina

In article <14786@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:
>In article <62469@cup.portal.com>, nest@cup.portal.com (Ram V Mani) writes:
>> 
>> Price Club is a members only store, but here is an number for you to try
>> (San Jose, CA store) 408.286.5840.
>> 
>> ...yep, those $900 PB 100s sure sound tempting   :-)...
>
>I went to the Sunnyvale store Saturday, and couldn't find a Powerbook
>anywhere in the store.

Both the Sunnyvale and San Jose stores (well, employees thereof) claim
that they are sold out and will not be getting any more PB100 in stock
in the future.

Both said, btw, that they had sold their last ones earlier in the same
day that I dropped by to check.  (once is happenstance, twice is
coincidence, thrice is enemy action...).

Any PB100's for really good prices anywhere else?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: HDFD floppy drive source (Q)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:49:32 GMT

There are several places in the back of magazines like Computer Shopper
where you can buy drives.  I paid $99/ 800K replacement  and even got a place
down to $89 when I bought six at once.

Also; I recall someone posting how to alter a PC sony 3 1/2" drive
so that it could be used with a mac.  Something to do with shorting
or removing a pin.  Anybody remember?  THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!
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peter@parkdale.hub.toronto.edu (Peter Boulton) writes:

>Is there any source of replacement floppy drives other than
>an authorized service center?  My technicians are quite capable
>of replacing one if I can buy it.

>Thanks for your answers.

>Peter Boulton <peter@hub.toronto.edu>
>CSRI, University of Toronto
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann)
Subject: Re: Anyone found a PS printer which has appletalk & a parallel port?
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd. 
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:01:22 GMT

In article <b8pA02Mq1bKZ01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> kls30@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Kent L Shephard) writes:
>In article <BrwGn9.2FA@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lam@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam) writes:
>>Has anyone found a Postscript printer which has an appletalk connection and
>>a parallel port and will automatically switch between the ports?  Or a cheap
>>piece of hardware to do this?
>>
>>The printer has to be fairly cheap<$2500.
>>
>>Thanks..Ken
>The Abaton(Everex) LaserScript LX has Appletalk, Serial, and Parallel and
>switches between the three ports and also decides on the fly if a file is
>Postscript or HP.

I believe the pages per minute on the laser script are ~6 ppm. The OKI-840
toner cardtridges are seperate from the drum. You can replace the toner
without replacing the entire image drum. The toner refills are around 25.00
dollars piece. The modular design of the Oki-840 makes it easy to add 
option. I have one at home and love it. Tha blacks are black. I never set up
the autoselect for telling what emulation it should jump to. But the OKI
840 will do it. I usually will print in Postscript mode with the 
True Type fonts (Typeface from SWFTE) and the standard PS fonts. Works 
slick. 






-- 
Ken Germann		support@zeos.com 	Zeos International, Ltd.
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			Opinions expressed are my own.
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: LaCie hard drives
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:18:43 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <+jsxqzf@rpi.edu> johnsh@aix.rpi.edu (Hugh Witt Johnson) writes:

>If anyone has had experience with LaCie external hard drives, your thoughts and
>recommendations would be appreciated.  I am in the market to purchase a 100M-
>class drive for my IIcx, and have read a lot of literature proclaiming LaCie 
>drives as one of the best available.  I called LaCie, and their 100MB external
>is selling for $469.  Does anyone know of any other reliable (Quantum based!)
>external drives at this size that beat that price? Also, are LaCie products
>only sold direct from the company, like it seems, or do any of the mail-order
>houses carry them? Thanks ahead of time for any suggestions.

Some people are happy with LaCie, some people hate them.
Personally, I am happy. I purchased a Tsunami 105 last year after wearing
out a Cirrus 40 and I have never had any major problems with the drive or
LaCie tech support.
But, I have never had to send a drive back to LaCie for repair and that is
where most complaints come from.

A lot of companies will sell you drives based on the Quantim 105LPS drive
but I prefer LaCie because I also get SilverLining and I feel that their
standards for drives are a little higher. Sometimes that is worth a
slightly higher price.

Have fun shopping,

-Geoff
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From: Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Intel and Motorola CPU's
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 11:21:44 -0500

  NA> processors being inheritly better than Intel CPU's. It is said that
  NA> Motorola's architecture and instruction set is better than that of
  NA> Intel. How would you compare a Motorola's CPU to one from Intel?

Oh, please, mr. moderator - not again.....