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From: james@racerx.bridge.COM (James Montebello)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: McLaren Engines
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:44:38 GMT
Organization: Bridge Information Systems

In article <1992Jul21.072857.3973@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> marti@nugget.inf.ethz.ch (Robert Marti) writes:
>In article <92202.155207JFS10@psuvm.psu.edu>, Jonathan Swaby <JFS10@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>|> In article <l6luf4INNf4b@news.bbn.com>, tdonahue@BBN.COM (Tim Donahue) says:
>|> 
>|> >Rumors suggest that Honda may be opting out of F1.  [ ... ]
>|> >Where might Ron find engines?  Here's some speculation:
>Other scenarios which haven't been mentioned (I think) are:
>
>6. Renault

There's been some rumors that Renault may begin supplying Lotus again. If
so, they probably won't give any to McLaren. If Lotus does get Renault
engines, perhaps Mika or Johnny would have to give up their seat for a 
bigger name? Perhaps a previous Lotus driver? There's even two to 
choose from. :-)

>7. Porsche

Hmm. Given their precarious financial situation lately, I doubt Porsche
will attempt F1 any time soon. The powers that be at Porsche don't seem
to be too keen on supporting motorsports at the moment. 

As for Toyota (as another netter speculated), it's a little known fact
that many of Toyota's high-performance engines are in fact designed and
built by Yamaha. Yamaha is not a very big company (Honda dwarfs them)
and the fact that they can spend the money on F1 suggest that it's
coming from somewhere else. 
-- 

james montebello (james@bridge.com)         'my employer has no opinions'		
"Fangio, Jaguar, Brabham. What decade is this?" - Peter Egan, on the 
current IMSA field.
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Chicane jumping
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:34:40 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre
Originator: netnews@uts.mcc.ac.uk

How about the fact that Mansell's car didn't and couldn't have stopped off 
the track, it was bound to re-enter the track due to the speed he went off.
So he'd have had to stop, drive off the track, back to his exit point, then 
re-enter.....crazy.  Of course if he'd deliberately cut the corner it'd be 
another matter.  Very lucky not to hit the gravel!


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From: dafuller@sequent.com (David Fuller)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Davey's wreck/ESPN
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:29:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Jul27.232935.12571
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

In article <1992Jul27.205335.12044@trantor.harris-atd.com> dwilliam@jabba.ess.harris.com (David Williams) writes:
>In <1992Jul22.140938.10542@ncube.com> bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
>
>
>>Another note on broadcasters.  My friend Fred Armstrong was calling
>>Pocono for MRN from around the T3 area last Sunday.  He had to call
>>Davey's wreck (it came to a rest right nearby his position).  All he
>>could do to keep his composure.
>
>>-c'ball-
>
>   Hey - talk about composure, how about the safety crew at the corner?
>We went back and looked at it again this weekend, and got a good look at
>the guys in the truck at the corner there.  They look like they hopped out
>when Davey's car was about 300 or so feet away, and ran behind their truck.
>As soon as it stopped, they were there in an instant.  I really appreciate
>this sort of dedication, since I work corners for the SCCA.  I sure wouldn't
>have wanted to be there.

Doesn't NASCAR have a permanent safety crew and trucks?

>
>-- 
>      Dave Williams                                              My 
>        dwilliam@jabba.ess.harris.com                         opinions	 
>           "Huh?  What?  Could you repeat the question?"        only.  


-- 
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From: burden_d@oass.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Rally schedulle?
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:38:13 GMT
Reply-To: burden_d@oass.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


The US, Canadian or WRC series?

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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: IMSA Portland, etc.
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:30:44 GMT

Well, the 15th annual IMSA stop in Portland is in the books
and I've got tons of good stories coupled with good inside
scuttlebutt to pass along.  However, it's going to take me
a couple of days to recover from 4 days worth of racing
activities.

Even though the main race of the weekend (GTP/GTL) turned
out to be a "yawner", the support races throughout the
weekend provided lots of excellent racing action.  Particularly
the first lap 'Festival' action during both the Firehawk race
Saturday and the Supercars yesterday.  As my main duties over
the weekend was spotting from the announce position between
Festival and T1, I had an excellent view of all the action.

The live remote we did Thursday night turned out to be loaded
with guests.  They included:

Doc Bundy and David Murray/LotuSport Supercars
Al Unser Jr., 'vacationing' this weekend in the Intrepid GTP
Cass Whitehead and Don Kitch/Stillen 300ZX Supercars
Parker Johnstone and Dan Marvin/CompTech Acura Camel Lights
Don Walker/Full Time Racing Dodge GTU

More info to follow - down the road.

-cannonball-

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From: bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe)
Subject: Re: More IMSA Notes
Organization: nCUBE Computers, Beaverton, Oregon, U.S.A.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:42:11 GMT

In article <30JUL199216194289@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.170106.2350@ncube.com>, bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) 
>writes...
>
>>IMSA added 50 lbs. of weight to the Jags following Mid-Ohio.  They
>
>Obviously expressing my lack of knowledge regarding IMSA rules (an 
>"IMSA-phite" I'm not), why did the extra weight get added to the Jaguars 
>after a couple of races where they dusted the field (or were in the process 
>of doing so), yet the Toyotas go untouched?
>

Good question Jim.  Trouble is, I don't have a definitive answer on it
without going backwards to do some research.

Maybe it was something really simple like - nobody's complained loud
enuf about the Toyotas (yet).  Refer to GM vs. Ford in NASCAR early this
current season.

bob
From: roberto@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Roberto S. M. Barros)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: > Sennas tactics at Hockenheim
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:53:54 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.5

Leo Smith (shaman@cix.compulink.co.uk) writes:

| Why? Why only the problem when passing _Senna_?
| 
| Here's my theory.

[His theory deleted]

You make it so simple, so easy!
So why the others did not try the same?
According to your theory, I might say that, in a competitive car (Williams), 
this would be even simpler!

 
| I will predict that Senna will be involved in a MAJOR incident before
| the year end.

Yes, perhaps in the next time Mansell gets behind him in a circuit where 
overtaking is difficult (Hungary, Japan, etc.).

I would love to see Mansell behind Senna in Hungary. 
With the possibility of being champion, I doubt he would do the whole race 
behind Senna (despite the better car), without trying "something".

Roberto Barros
From: bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Andrew Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: GP racing in the '30s was Re: Car identification request
Keywords: Nuvolari, Nurembergring, 1938
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:42:26 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In article <thos.712363650@suite.sw.oz.au> thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen) writes:
>In <1992Jul27.182420.15870@pixar.com> drew@mars (Drew Rogge) writes:
>
>
>>A friend of mine has a photograph of Nuvolari at the Nurembergring
>>taken in 1938. So far he's been unable to identify the make/model
>>of the car being driven. The car's number is 22 and it is thought
>>to be a Mercedes although he hasn't been able to verify this.
>
>More probably it would be an Auto-Union, as Nuvolari drove for 
>them after leaving Alfa. The easiest way to tell is by which end
>the engine is, as all GP Mercedes to date have been front-engined.

Nuvolari started the 1938 season with Alfa.  In practice for the
fist race at Pau, the 308 caught fire when chassis flexing caused
the fuel tank to split!  He vowed never to drive an Alfa again and
announced his retirement.  

After the death of Bernd Rosemeyer and with Hans Stuck out of favour,
Auto Union was pretty short of experienced drivers.  In the French GP
at Reims they entered Rudolf Hasse, H.P. Mueller and Christian Kautz.
Mueller and Hasse crashed in practice, Mueller ending up in hospital.
Hasse and Kautz both crashed, separately, on the first lap of the race.

Two days later, Hans Stuck got a phone call asking him if he would be
so kind as to do a couple of laps of the Nurburgring, and to suggest
some improvements to the chassis.  He finally agreed that if he broke
the lap record he could have a contract for the rest of the year.  The
lap record had been set in 1937 by Rosemeyer in the 6 litre V16 Auto
Union, Stuck would be driving the 1938 3.0 litre V12 car.  Stuck broke
the lap record and got his contract!

Nuvolari was also hired and he won the last two races of the year at
Monza and Donnington.  At the Nurburgring that year, he went off on the
first lap.  He took over Mueller's car for the last half of the race,
and they finished in fourth place.  It was this shared car which was
#22.  It was a three litre V12 Auto Union D type.

If you're even slightly interested in GP racing in the mid-to-late
thirties, you have got to read Chris Nixon's "Racing with the Silver
Arrows." It's the sort of book that you can either read from cover to
cover, or by browsing through it.  It's superbly researched and the
pictures are well produced. There are some stunning pictures of Grand
Prix cars going around "fresh air" corners on Alpine passes in the
Mountain Climbing championship.

			Andrew  Henry
Sempre  Gilles					bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
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From: deanb@pecan10.cray.com (Dean Barker)
Subject: ASA Update
Originator: deanb@pecan10
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:29:23 CDT



	1992 ASA AC-Delco Challenge Series Schedule

DATE	SITE				WINNER/TV	PTS. LEADER
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
4/26	Nashville, TN			B. Senneker	B. Senneker
5/3	Columbus, OH			J. Benson, Jr.	J. Benson, Jr.
5/10	West Allis, WI			J. Benson, Jr.	J. Benson, Jr.
6/7	Cayuga, ONT			G. St. Amant	S. Hansen (+28)
6/19 	Auburn, MI			M. Eddy
6/20	Grand Rapids, MI		J. Benson, Jr.	J. Benson, Jr. (+3)
6/28	Odessa, MO			M. Eddy		M. Eddy (+51)
7/5	Calgary, ALB			B. Senneker
7/19	West Allis, WI			M. Eddy		M. Eddy (+67)
7/26	Flint, MI			-----
8/2	Cayuga, ONT			TNN-L
8/15	Grand Rapids, MI		-----
8/23	Calgary, ALB			TNN-L
8/29	Anderson, IN			-----
9/7	St. Paul, MN			-----
9/20	Bowmanville, ONT		-----
10/4	Toledo, OH			-----
10/25	Jennerstown, PA			-----


Point Standings (as of 7/19):

1. M. Eddy		1524
2. J. Benson, Jr.	1457
3. J. Sauter		1416
4. B. Senneker		1308
5. T. Steele		1211
6. S. Holzhausen	1207
7. J. Neal		1198
8. H. Fair		1132
9. K. Stauffer		1119
10. G. St. Amant	1114
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From: naze@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Daniel J Naze)
Subject: Re: John Watson on German GP
Originator: naze@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:14:18 GMT

    OOPS!  Sorry about that last post on this subject.  Something must have
happened while editing.....

 What I said was that the Toyota TS010 SWC car was designed by Tony Southgate,
not John Barnard.  Southgate is formerly of TWR racing.  Barnard and I believe
Steve Nichols designed the Ferrari 642 and 643 F1 cars.  Nichols stayed with
Ferrari to design the F92A, but has since left to join the '93 Sauber F1 team.

Dan Naze


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From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Subject: Re: More IMSA Notes
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 30 Jul 1992 12:06 EST  

In article <12434@perryd>, perryd@Software.Mitel.COM (Dave Perry) writes...

>Hear, hear. I also enjoy Bob's IMSA posts. About those Toyotas, did something
>change on them since Watkins Glen? The Jaguar XJR14 was pulling away from
>them quite handily at the Glen, gaining maybe 2 seconds a lap (until the Jag
>broke a wheel bearing). What happened? Just the difference in the tracks?

Either that or they added more ballast to the Jags.

JD
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From: rbanksjr@nyx.cs.du.edu (Richard E. Banks Jr.)
Subject: Re: Chicane jumping
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 18:23:12 GMT

In article <zlsiida.1082@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:
>How about the fact that Mansell's car didn't and couldn't have stopped off 
>the track, it was bound to re-enter the track due to the speed he went off.
>So he'd have had to stop, drive off the track, back to his exit point, then 
>re-enter.....crazy.  Of course if he'd deliberately cut the corner it'd be 
>another matter.  Very lucky not to hit the gravel!
>
>
>+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
>|  I don't take part in any sport that requires me to change clothes  |
>|  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44)061-275-6033  |
>+---------------------------------------------------------------------+


I didn't see the race but what happened to those cones they had that would
disqualify the drivers if they hit one?  

By the way, does anyone know if ESPN will rebroadcast the race?
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
From: taylor@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Ross Taylor,Peyt312,6652,2655436)
Subject: Re: F1 thoughts
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:22:41 GMT

From article <1992Jul21.153243.6185@sbil.co.uk>, by rob@sbil.co.uk (Robert  Greenwood):
> Thoughts from several recent articles:
> 
[stuff deleted]
> 
> Mansell to lap 2secs quicker than Patrese's best.  And before you
> start, yes I do think Mansell is a better driver than Patrese (but
> would you rather be a middle-aged brummy married with kids and stuck in
> Florida, or a younger Italian 'Playboy' living the good life in Monte
> Carlo?).
> Rob.
> 

Just for your information:

  Mansell was born on 8/8/54  (dd/mm/yy)
  Patrese's birth date is 17/4/54

Togother they make up the oldest team in F1.  The oldest driver
in last years lineup was Piquet (17/8/52). The next oldest was Nakajima, then
Prost.  Of those driving this year, the oldest other than those above
is Alboreto (1956).

May be you would prefer to be an older Italian Playboy living the good
life in Monte Carlo :) 

Ross Taylor

PS: dates are from Autocourse 91-92.
From: conrad@pico.OZ (Conrad Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Fastest cars ?
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:44:30 GMT
Reply-To: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Organization: QPSX Communications
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

dp32+@andrew.cmu.edu (Donald Jackson Pickett) writes:
: 
: BTW: Did anoyone else catch the letter to the editor in Autoweek, to the
: effect that the McLaren F1 test mule was powered by a Chevy 454?
: Apparently, McLaren needed something that could pump out ~550 ft-lb's of
: torque, and none o' tyem funny, hi-revvin' Youropeean engines could do
: that . . .
Yupp, except the BMW motor that they're putting in the production
version.

----
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From: gene@wucs1.wustl.edu (_Floor_)
Subject: F1 drivers
Organization: The K-Zoo Crew
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:42:04 GMT

If only they could read the things we conjure up to describe them
and their actions here on the net. We think we know how they think.
For many of us, our opinons swell and fall on the smallest turn
of a wheel. It's a sport that goes well beyond the race track,
and that's part of what makes it so masterful and yet so silly.
Here's to another enjoyable season!

  _____    "But you can't really call that a dance. It's a walk." - Tony Banks
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From: lturvy@emdeng.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Larry.Turvy)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Who caused Allison's wreck?
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:12:44 GMT
Organization: NCR, E&M Dayton

What is the prevailing opinion on the cause of Davey's wreck?
Before I give my opinion, I must say that I am a HEAVILY biased
Ford follower.

I think that Davey, trying to prevent Waltrip from passing him,
caused the wreck by running his rear quarter into Waltrip's
front.  I thought that it was a poor decision on Davey's part,
considering that he had the dominant car in the race, and
did not need to resort to such tactics.

Watching the wreck made me ill, wondering if Davey could
survive such an incedent.  I wish him a speedy recovery, so
he can continue to get more victories in his T-Bird :-).

LT
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From: taylor@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Ross Taylor,Peyt312,6652,2655436)
Subject: Re: F1 Trivia : Best newcomer in F1 ??
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:56:28 GMT

From article <h2mmcm_.esprit@netcom.com>, by esprit@netcom.com (Alan F. Perry):
> burden_d@oass.enet.dec.com writes:

[33 points to a number of rookies deleted]

Whats this about all these people getting 33 points in their first year in F1.
Must be a conspiracy somewhere :-)

A point (if I may use the word) to remember is that the drivers Dave
Burden cited as having 33 points in their 1st years never drove 16 race
seasons.

Hey Dave: can you fill in the number of races these drivers raced in
their rookie years?

Ross Taylor

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From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Subject: Re: NASCAR news (7/21)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 22 Jul 1992 12:10 EST  

In article <1992Jul22.141704.10685@ncube.com>, bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) 
writes...
>Since this is a bye-weekend for IndyCars, Al Jr. has chosen to drive the
>Intrepid GTP at Portland.  While that's good for us here, wouldn't you'd
>love to see Al drive relief for Davey at Talladega?
> 
>'Course, the Chebby Lawyers would probably not have approved of this.

I wonder what the "Chebby Lawyers" had to say about Al in the IROC Dodge?

I don't think that the Valvoline folks would be too happy with Al climbing 
into a rolling Havoline billboard.

JD
From: alex@Apple.COM (Alex Rangel)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Corvette for sale
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:42:02 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA


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Respond to this add by calling Skip Frenzel (408) 984-6321.
From: eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Re: Boo Boo Senna (German GP minor spoiler)
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:18:30 GMT
Organization: clearer than blir


Did anyone notice that the Williams ran with less wing than the
McLarens?  Schumacher also ran with very little, but had B compounds.
Senna had lots of wing (but was slow) which probably explains
(partially, anyway) why he got more tire life than Mansell.

eliot
From: hanss@microsoft.com (Hans Spiller)
Subject: Re: Unser Jr/IMSA/PDX
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:18:46 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Summary: scandia motorsports?

In article <1992Jul22.034945.26829@uwm.edu>, naze@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Daniel J Naze) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.145106.26765@ncube.com> bob@ncube.com (Bob Kehoe) writes:
> >Al Unser Jr. will drive one of Tom Milner's '91 Chevrolet
> >Intrepid GTPs at Portland this coming weekend.
> >
> >The car will be prepped by Scandia Motorsports in Redmond,
> >Washington and is sponsored by Scandia, Norwegian Cruise
> >Lines and General Rent a Car.
> >-cannonball-
> 
>   I was under the impression that "Scandia" was just the team name, is
> Scandia some kind of company?  If so, what is the product?
> 
> Dan Naze

The Redmond phone book lists "Scandia Engineering Corp"
8901 Willows Rd, Redmond, 867-0768 (area code 206)
in the yellow pages under "Automobile Racing Cars"

That address is in the middle of a big industrial park about two miles
north of my office at microsoft.   The phone book also lists a building
supply store called "Scandia Electric" a couple of towns north (Kenmore).
The phone book gives no suggestion that they might be related.  Sounds
like Scandia Engineering is in the business of prepping racing cars.

I wish them and Al Jr luck.  I sure wish I could make it down to PIR this
sunday, but it's not going to work out.  drat.

				-Hans
From: thos@suite.sw.oz.au (Thomas Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: Re: Car identification request
Keywords: Nuvolari, Nurembergring, 1938
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:47:30 GMT
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd

In <1992Jul27.182420.15870@pixar.com> drew@mars (Drew Rogge) writes:


>A friend of mine has a photograph of Nuvolari at the Nurembergring
>taken in 1938. So far he's been unable to identify the make/model
>of the car being driven. The car's number is 22 and it is thought
>to be a Mercedes although he hasn't been able to verify this.

More probably it would be an Auto-Union, as Nuvolari drove for 
them after leaving Alfa. The easiest way to tell is by which end
the engine is, as all GP Mercedes to date have been front-engined.

>Drew Rogge
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From: blaine@banana.fedex.com (blaine robertson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.sport
Subject: DAYTONA 500 TICKETS NEEDED
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:25:15 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Federal Express Corp.

I desperately need two tickets to the February 1993 Daytona 500.  I
just found out that they were already sold out. If anyone knows of 
extra tickets to be had, please contact me via email..

Thx in advance..

Blaine Robertson

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