From: dunkelza@titan.ucc.umass.edu (KEITH C MCCORMIC)
Subject: Claymores
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:13:33 GMT

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From: Lutz Behnke <Behnke@tu-harburg.dbp.de>
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To: KEITH C MCCORMIC <dunkelza@titan.ucc.umass.edu>
Subject: Re: META: Swords, etc
Status: R

>In article <Bx9tH3.Kzu@nic.umass.edu> you write:
>|> In article <92309.085051IK20001@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> Solipsist at Large <IK20001@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>|> >dunkelza@titan.ucc.umass.edu writes:
>|> >
>|> >>    Have you ever seen a claymore?  They average between 6 1/2 and 7 1/2 feet
> I DID, they average between 4'5" and 5'5"
>|>   A claymore looks like this:
>|> 
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>|>                         \-||-/  <--#2
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>|> 
>That is exactly the type of Bastard and Two Handed Sword that is _NOT_ a Claymore
>It is a Flamberge or Zweihaender with a Dull Part called "unschaerfe" between
the hand bar and the #2 above

   No, a Flamberge has a kris blade.  I can not be sure about the Zweihaeder,
because I study English and Celtic stuff primarily.  However, I assure you this
is a claymore, or at least a bad picture of one.

>|> >
>|> >>>Swords are heavy. You don't swing a rod of metal around that's taller than
>|> >>>you are and hope to hit anything with it.
>Swinging a good Sword has nothing to do with swingin a metal rod.
>Many Sword had weights in the pommel to even out the weight differences that
>pull the tip down.

   Why did you mail ME with this?  I didn't write it.  Look at the quote > 
thingies in front of it.  That is a piece of an article I responded to.

>|> >>
>|> >>      Tell that to the Scotsman who wielded them in battle.
>never did! Swords like the one above are used from Horseback!!!!!!!
>The average Scott did not fight from horseback and therefor could not use
>a six-footer

     Claymores were NEVER used from horseback...well..maybe once or twice.  
They were a footman's weapon.  A sword seven feet long whas a nasty tendency to
to pull knights out of saddles.

MFG the Sage
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     Now, Herr Behnke, please do not mail me with your answers to my posts.
I would take it kindly if no one else did either.   If you wanna say it, say
it here.

     Claymores did indeed exist.  They were approximately seven feet long, and
looked vaguely like the drawing above.  They were employed by scottish infantry
against enemy formations.

Dunkelzahn

P.S.-  Why do you think the U.S. Military named their anti-personnel mines
after the weapon?   Because, like claymores, claymores slice through enemy
units with ease.
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