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From: sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:20:53 GMT
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Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>I agree.  Enough about ND.  However, I'm curious to find out how many 
>college stadiums sell beer.   Michigan Stadium doesn't sell any kind 
>of alcohol.  That being the source of my main college football experience,
>I was surprised to see beer sold at the Rose Bowl this last year.  
>(So surprised that I bought a couple.) 
>Is it common for college stadiums to sell beer/alcohol?  
>As to the moral implications, well there are plenty of places one 
>can't buy beer.  Personally, I enjoy drinking beer, but can live 
>without it at a game.  Of course, the obnoxious drunks that I've 
>seen at games either smuggle in booze or get plastered before the 
>game.  
 
>Steve 

The last time I was at Folsom Field, Colorado's home field, they were
still serving beer.  The only difference was that they no longer had
people sellling it in the stands and you had to go to the same place
where they sold hot dogs and stuff.  The idea is that this way they can
card you.  When I was at CU (85-89), the drinking age was 18, so there
was little problems selling it to minors.  Most freshman are 18. 

Susan Wagner
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football,rec.sport.football.college,misc.forsale,misc.wanted
From: traynor@fnala.fnal.gov
Subject: WANTED: tickets to ND football home game before November 1
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:24:03 GMT
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I am looking for five general admission tickets to any Notre Dame football
home game before November 1--they can be split up a bit, and I am willing
to get them one at a time.  This is for my family (including my nephew who
is seriously interested in attending when he graduates from high school), and
it would be appreciated if they wouldn't be sold for too much over list price.
Thanks!

					-Mike Traynor
                                                     

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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Beat by Notre Dame (and not on the field)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:48:05 GMT

Mark Mitchell writes:

>My point has been quickly validated:  Notre Dame fans claim that
>Rocket Ismail was the greatest player who ever lived and deserved
>the Heisman more than anyone in history, and yet a virtual clone who
>plays for someone besides Notre Dame and has better stats is basically
>not even worth talking about as a Heisman candidate.

I kind of see that Heisman race a bit different.  Ismail didn't win, not 
because there was anti Notre Dame bias, but because he was a Junior.  It is 
only very recently that Juniors have been given a great deal of Heisman 
consideration.  Of course, I could also be full of it  . . . :-)

     - Pat
.
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From: demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil (Darryl Marsee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: On-Field College Mascots
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:42:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: 1926CCSG Robins AFB

tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:

>Top Ten Coolest :

>1. Syracuse : The Orange -- He just looks so happy.

You're kidding, right?!?  Definitely the #1 Stupidest mascot, in my 
opinion (and this is an orange-bleeding SU fan speaking here!).  #1 
coolest has to be LSU's Bengal Tiger ... just wish they'd let it out
of the cage :-)

>2. Colorado : Ralphie the Buffalo -- 'nuff said.

Yep ... pretty cool. Of course, isn't he an American Bison, not Buffalo?
I guess it's too late to change the nickname, but the Colorado Bison
sounds better to me than the Colorado Buffaloes (as long as the women's
teams aren't called the Bisonettes!). 

>3. Stanford : You have to love to seeing a tree roam the sidelines.

Wonder what Reveille will do to it at the Texas A&M game ... :-)

>4. Florida State : I love the flaming spear before kickoff.

Most intimidating.  Just hope he never gets the flames near the
horse as he brings the spear back before throwing.  Whoa!

>5. Nebraska : Herbie Husker -- huge head.

Like most Nebraska faithful.  I like the Oklahoma Sooner-wagon better.

>6. Michigan State : The Spartan is seriously stout.

Not too bad ... definitely looks better than its similar cousin the USC Trojan.

>7. SMU : Peruna the Pony gets run across the field after TD.  Out of shape now.

Maybe should be downgraded to a Shetland?

>8. UNLV : I don't know if the Shark is at football games, but too cool to drop.

With Tark gone, the shark probably will be also (too bad).

>9. Wake Forest : He really looks like a Demon Deacon.

Replace this with the coolest mascot in the ACC ... Buzz from Georgia Tech!

>10. Reserved for Florida if and when they get a live gator on the field.

And a gator emblem on their helmets ... the script "Gators" is b-o-r-i-n-g.
But a live gator would be sufficient ...

Potential best (if they could find a real one to roam the field): the
Cortland State Red Dragons.

>Top Ten Dumbest :

>1. Notre Dame : No comment needed.

1. Syracuse : No comment needed.  All others look OK compared to this.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:58:46 -0400 
From: Todd Harris Fletcher <tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Heisman Poll Update

Here are the current standings in the Heisman Poll......

Marshall Faulk, RB    San Diego State     59 pts.
Russell White, RB     California          51 pts.
Shane Matthews, QB    Florida             48 pts.
Jerome Bettis, RB     Notre Dame          35 pts.
Trevor Cobb, RB       Rice                22 pts.
Qadry Ismail, WR      Syracuse            18 pts.
Billy Joe Hobert, QB  Washington          15 pts.
Mazio Royster, RB     Southern California 15 pts.
O.J. McDuffie, WR     Penn State          13 pts.
Greg Hill, RB         Texas A&M           13 pts.
Glyn Milburn, RB      Stanford            13 pts.
Drew Bledsoe, QB      Washington State    12 pts.
Shawn Jones, QB       Georgia Tech        11 pts.
Rick Mirer, QB        Notre Dame          11 pts.
Derek Brown, RB       Nebraska            11 pts.
Tyrone Wheatley, RB   Michigan            10 pts.
Gino Torretta, QB     Miami (FL)          10 pts.
Elvis Grbac, QB       Michigan             9 pts.
Robert Smith, RB      Ohio State           7 pts.
Dan Friedlinger, QB   Southern Methodist   6 pts.
Beno Bryant, RB       Wahington            6 pts.
Kevin Willams, KR     Miami (FL)           6 pts.
Marvin Jones, LB      Florida State        5 pts.
Eric Hunter, QB       Purdue               5 pts.
Ricky Powers, RB      Michigan             4 pts.
Deon Strother, RB     Southern California  3 pts.
Errick Rhett, RB      Florida              3 pts.
Alex Van Pelt, QB     Pittsburgh           1 pt.
Cale Gundy, QB        Oklahoma             1 pt.
Eric Zeier, QB        Georgia              1 pt.
Marvin Graves, QB     Syracuse             1 pt.
Tracy Saul, ?         Texas Tech           1 pt.
Danan Hughes, WR      Iowa                 1 pt.
"Duece", ?            Alabama              1 pt.
Jeff Zgonina, NT      Purdue               1 pt.
Brian Fortay, QB      Rutgers              1 pt.
Kirk Herbstreit, QB   Ohio State           1 pt.     
Derrick Alexander, WR Michigan             1 pt.

Please continue to send in your votes and I will update this periodically.

Make sure you send your top 3 picks!

-Todd

tf0y@andrew.cmu.edu
From: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Request for BEC info from Preseason Mags
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:44:11 GMT
Reply-To: poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu (David Poore)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida State University

In article <1992Jul22.140625.13194@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann) writes:
>Football Action.  If you can e-mail (see address in my .sig)

This is a joke, right Bob? In all the years I've been hooked up to the
internet, I've never once sent mail to an ATT site without getting a
bounce!

David Poore
poore@ds9.scri.fsu.edu

Oh, football comment: CANEZ R00LZ
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:00:03 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <Bs1wwL.4I1@ais.org> ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:
>.6487@b24a.ingr.com>
>Organization: UMCC
> 
>Someone else mentioned some kind of NCAA restriction as well.  
>However, two posters (at least) said that beer is sold at 
>Colorado games (off campus stadium maybe?). 

No, the stadium is on campus.

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Ag Jokes (was Re: The Deserving Heisman?)
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:22:51 GMT

In article <Brt1B2.FI4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd >>Didja
hear about the Aggie who said he'd give his right arm to be
>>ambidextrous?
>
>At least come up with some new ones!  I don't know if this is new or not, and
>I don't know how it will come out in written form, but here goes!
>
>(Bad joke warning)
>
>This guy, probably a stupid t-sip, walks into a bar and tells the bar tender
>that he just heard a great Aggie joke.
>
>Well, the bar tender stops him and tells him that
>him and the three guys at the next table were all Aggie football players and
>then ask if he REALLY wants to tell the joke.
>
>The guy then looks concerned and says, "no, I don't want to have to explain it
>3 times."


OK YOU STARTED IT: There was a Aggie and a t-sip in the bathroom. After they
finish the t-sip looks to the Aggie and says "At my school they teach us to
wash our hands after urinating" 

The Aggie responds "At my school they teach us not to piss in our hands!"

John R. Cobarruvias '78
From: rszczerb@verdi.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND lovers / haters
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:19:52 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Jul22.191944.3650@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>
>Ha ha ha, ND isn't a football factory? Ha ha ha I can't help it this just
>really breaks me up. That's like saying UNIX doesn't relate to computers, or
>GM doesn't make cars. Ha ha ha...... That's a great one he he he he.......
>
>John
>-- 

Notre Dame is far less of a "football factory" than some other
schools which I won't mention at the moment.  ND actually expects
their athletes to have REAL majors (no majors in basketweaving, or Phys-ed).
They also expect their athletes to graduate in 4 years just like
any other student at the University.  ND's academic standards are
significantly higher than the NCAA's so a player may be allowed
to play by NCAA standards but ineligible by ND's standards.  Many of
Notre Dame's players make it to the pros, but they are all students
as well.  ND's starting Center this year is a Junior in Mechanical Engineering
with over a 3.6 GPA.
I'd like to ask why you think ND is just a "football factory".
From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: fans (was ND fans)
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:47:34 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Noonan mentioned the A&M fans--I agree with him, even though I am an
A&M fan, but I was thoroughly disgusted by some Aggies' gracelessness.

I posted the stuff about ND and Miami sucking in part because it was a
way of saying, hey, these teams (and others) may be great at winning,
but something about some people's attitudes ruins the game.

If ND really does put all that tv money into a general fund, then,
great, they are thinking of something besides football.

I know being at A&M made me dislike the Aggies for a while.  Why?
Because A&M finally started winning some big games and became a
legitimate top 10 team.  And the fans became smug and just downright
unpleasant. 

And since coming to Indiana and being around more ND fans, I'm seeing
more poor behavior.  (My first year here, I watched t.u. beat Purdue
in the b-ball tourney.  Through no obnoxious behavior of my
own--except maybe an excited "yeah" or a clap--a couple of PU fans
threatened to "beat the shit" out of me.

Gary Beason
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Vols Chances for SEC
Date: 30 Jul 92 12:32:20 GMT
Organization: Auburn University, AL

In article <1992Jul29.212634.7967@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
> In article <1992Jul29.174216.19188@infonode.ingr.com> henders@infonode.ingr.com (Greg Henderson) writes:
>>jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com (Jeff Kilpatrick) writes:
>>>
>>>  It's going to tough again for Bama.
> .
> .
> .
>>>with the exception of Auburn and Florida, all their tough games are
>>>at home.
>>
>>But wait, isn't the Auburn/Alabama game in B'ham??  Surely you don't
>>consider that an away game... ;)
> 
>     Well, Awbuhn *is* the home team this year.  Something to do with
> scratching around in a sandbox or something, you know how cats are. 
> Don't ask me, it was something Sain't Pat said.  Don't complain, it
> is as least one way to assure that the tiggers get to play in
> Birmingham this season.

Hmm.  I could have sworn Auburn was the "home" team at Legion (ugh) Field
last year.  There was a big Auburn emblem painted at mid-field.  Auburn sold
the majority of tickets.  

Unfortunately, I was there ...

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
From: ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: I do, but do you..
Summary: ND is BOGUS
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:20:19 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.college
Distribution: usa
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO


Well I can't say I hate ND but I sure dislike them. Why?

Well I went to both ND vs. Colorado Orange Bowls at Joe Roby Stadium and
I had some first hand experience with the ND fans who are the main reason
why I dislike ND.

ND fans are so boring that they don't even *stand up* while watching their 
team play and when they chear it is barely audable. They didn't even seem
to be excited about being in the O-Bowl. It was just another football game to
them. I can't respect a team that has lame fans. Come to Colorado and we'll
show you what REAL FOOTBALL FANS ARE LIKE.

The most important thing that makes me dislike ND is the fact that they asked
the O-Bowl to NOT sell BEER at the game. Is this the lamest thing you've ever
heard of. I can't stand people who try to impose their values on others. I 
you don't want to drink at a football game don't but why ruin it for everyone
else. Its this sense of superiority that really bugs me.


	-ethan



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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:49:08 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

Robert Szczerba writes:

>Everyone who's writing in says that there are no beer sales
>at their perspective college.  Are there any stadiums
>out there that Do serve beer?  Just curious.

Not that I ever perceive attending USC, but beer is sold by the bucket at the 
Collesium in Los Angeles.  I recall the 1978 ND/USC game in which an irate 
Irish fan communicated his displeasure ate the second pass-interference call 
againt Notre Dame by emptying the contents of his bucket over the fans sitting 
in front of him.  Is it a bad thing that Notre Dame reguests no beer be sold at
their games in away venues?  I don't think so.

     - Pat
.
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From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: College Football News??
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:09:49 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Jul27.164102.1572@news.nd.edu> james.k.pinkelman.1@nd.edu (Jim Pinkelman) writes:
>Is there a newsgroup which contains college footbal news?  The
>"clari.sports.football"
>seems to be almost exclusively Pro-Football news.  The
>"rec.sport.football.college"
>seems to be almost exclusively opinions.
>
>Is there a group where I can get UPI type college football news ?????
>

Not to my knowledge.  I bitched to clarinet that their college sports
coverage is absolutely dismal, espeicially when you consider how
in-depth their pro coverage tends to me.  They replied with "well
there's a lot of games out there".  Hey - even scores would be nice.

Anyway, make a posting to clari.net.talk.  If enough of us complain, 
maybe they'll do it.

-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu
"The 'wall of separation of church and state' is a metaphor based on bad
 history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging.  It should
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From: tonyf@rm1.interlan.com (Tony Fernandez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: more nicknames and mascots
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:03:37 GMT
Organization: Racal-Milgo, Sunrise, Florida

In article <1992Jul21.195820.630@u.washington.edu>, crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck) writes:
>jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber) writes:
>>
>>I've heard the scoop on the Hurricane mascot, but I don't recall it.
>
>I remember hearing on ESPN that the bird is an ibis, supposedly the last
>bird to leave before a hurrican hits, and the first to return afterward.
>This sounds wonderfully courageous to many, but to me it sounds like a 
>pretty stupid bird. :-)
>
>****************************************************************************
>Cliff Slaughterbeck           * 
>Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Truth is a statue, and you are all just 
>University of Washington      *   a bunch of pigeons. 
>Seattle, WA 98195             *
>****************************************************************************

Hey, don't make fun of the mascot.

We may have clashing colors, ugly uniforms and a stupid logo on the helmet,
but Sebastian the Ibis is the best and coolest mascot in college football.
By far.

-- 

Tony L. Fernandez

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: Beat by Notre Dame (and not on the field)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:10:54 GMT

John Turman writes:

>In the game against the Canes Tim brown was not
>ND's best reciever, the tight end was (forget the name) and Tim Brown played
>like a scared puppy. End of discussion.

Beggining of new discussion (on the same topic.)  If I recall correctly, Tim  
Brown played that game with a serrious rib injury (like a pair of broken ones.)

     - Pat
.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: c1h3384@rigel.tamu.edu 
Subject: Re: All-American !POLL!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:56:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.130055.1@max.u.washington.edu>, daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu writes...
> 
> 
>OK, OK...now that all of the preseason football magazines are out, makin'
>us all speculate like mad about the upcoming season, how about a 
>rec.sport.football.college pre season All-American team?  Hey, why not...
>a Heismen poll just isn't enough, right   :) !!!!!
> 
>Anyway, send in your votes (up to 3 deep per position...yeah, like
>anyone's gonna' know 15 offensive line men) and I'll keep everyone
>posted on the results.
> 
>Here's even a handy sample ballot:
> 
>QB
>1.
>2.
>3.
> 
>RB
>1. Greg Hill
>2.
>3.
> 
>FB/RB
>1. Doug Carter
>2.
>3.
> 
>Off. Line (Heck, let's just limit this to five, huh?)
>1.
>2.
>3.
>4.
>5.
> 
>TE
>1.
>2.
>3.
> 
>Receivers
>1.
>1.
>2.
>2.
>3.
>3.
> 
>Def. Line
>(How about two deep here)
>1. Sam Adams
>1.
>1.
>2.
>2.
>2.
> 
>Linebackers (two deep)
>1. Marcus Berkley
>1.
>1.
>1.
>2.
>2.
>2.
>2.
> 
>CB/Saftey/Def. Backfield
> 
>1.
>1.
>1.
>1.
>2.
>2.
>2.
>2.
> 
>Kicker
>1.
>2.
>3.
> 
>Punter
>1.
>2.
>3.
> 
>Kick/Punt return man
>1.
>2.
>3.
> 
> 
>Ok, so it wasn't three deep at every position!!!
> 
>I'll compile 1st, 2nd, and honorable mention teams and post once a week or so.
> 
>Start sending!!!
> 
>Daytrpr@max.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: hartmann@mdd.comm.mot.com (Michael Hartmann)
Subject: Re: I do, but do you..
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:58:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.152019.21291@ncar.ucar.edu> ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert) writes:
>
>Well I can't say I hate ND but I sure dislike them. Why?
>
>Well I went to both ND vs. Colorado Orange Bowls at Joe Roby Stadium and
>I had some first hand experience with the ND fans who are the main reason
>why I dislike ND.
>
>ND fans are so boring that they don't even *stand up* while watching their 
>team play and when they chear it is barely audable. They didn't even seem
>to be excited about being in the O-Bowl. It was just another football game to
>them. I can't respect a team that has lame fans. Come to Colorado and we'll
>show you what REAL FOOTBALL FANS ARE LIKE.

I agree with you on that one.  However, you should come to one of ND's home
games, that is a totally different story.  The student section will surely
show you what real fans are like.  The alumni, however, will just sit 
throughout the game, and not get too much into it.

>
>The most important thing that makes me dislike ND is the fact that they asked
>the O-Bowl to NOT sell BEER at the game. Is this the lamest thing you've ever
>heard of. I can't stand people who try to impose their values on others. I 
>you don't want to drink at a football game don't but why ruin it for everyone
>else. Its this sense of superiority that really bugs me.

Are you saying that you can't have fun and enjoy the game without beer?
If that is the case, maybe you should rethink your stance on what real
football fans are like.  

Michael