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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: ALL OUR TOMORROWS: Th
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:15:31 GMT

rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (rock) writes:
>them...or at least they thought they could.)  At any rate, though, I
>eblieve the point here was that is all Gallifreyans are immune to paradox,
>then how can the doctor muck about in Gallifrey's history?  If _he_
>doesn't get changed, why do the others?

I'm not sure what you are trying to say in your last sentence, but I don't
believe anyone can just go into Gallifreys past to muck around as you say
that easily.  I am sure that precautions have been taken to prevent it.  My
observance of the Drs' involvement in its' history relates to the Dr actually
being there - not going back now!

I would be very satisfied, if the Dr. Who movie dealt with the beginnings of
Rassilon - to William Hartnell/the Dr's departure from Gallifrey.  It 
certainly would answer many, many questions.  Of course I doubt they'll do 
this, since mystery keeps one interested and going...

	Mystic

(alex.soto@analog.com)

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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The future?
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 92 05:19:12 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey) writes:

- yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
- (bunch of idiotic drivel from Dave deleted)
-
  Seems to me that there is a fool who is balding.


- Doomsday is right around the corner, is it? Pray tell, where do you get
- your information on this matter. And, more importantly, what does any of
- your pseudo-fanatical babble have to do with Dr. Who?
-
- Also, if Doomsday is right around the bend, why are you all fired up
- about starting a new series of Who? Rather pointless, isn't it, since
- we're all going to snuff it anyway.
-
-
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 Your fololish mocking tone tone does not surprise me.  Reminds me of critics
of Winston churchill.  I was saying that some of these shows are idealistic,
and that somehow we should stop looking to idealism and start to look at the
consequences of reality.

But then again Warren, you are someone with 0-credibility, as pointed out by
one of your high schol chums.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
From: HISC9016351D@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (MAMMONE,Robert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: K9 correction
Date: 13 Sep 92 08:33:22 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

> > 
> > Q2. Where did the Doctor firt aquire K-9?
> In the story "the Invisibly Enemy" on an asteroid turned into a hospital.  
> He was built by professor Marius who got away with having a pet by making  
> a computer in the shape of a dog. He gave K9 to the Doctor because he  
> would soon be returning to Earth and not need a robot companion anymore.  
> (some of this is semi-canon, not coming from the show but from the book  
> "K9 and other Mechanical creatures")
> > 
Actually, as far as I know, Professor Marius gave K9 to the Doctor, because
as Marius was travelling back to Earth, the weight allowance on his personal
belongings precluded him from taking K9 with him.  Thus, he gave K9 to the
Doctor.
From: mrmuon@next01pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Hello and some Questions..
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:27:56 GMT
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <18okajINN6v1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jcg8@po.CWRU.Edu (Jude C.  
Giampaolo) writes:
> Q1. I have noticed that many of the Dalek episode titles have 
>     something to do with religion, eg. 'Genisis of the Daleks'
> and 'Ressurection of the Daleks' I was wondering if anyone could
> tell me if there is a reson for this, and how many of the titles
> are this way?
That's all. I think whoever was writing the story titles was bored, they  
also had "power","evil","day","planet","destiny","ressurection", and  
"rememberance" "of the Daleks". The only Dalek stories without this title  
format were the first 4. They almost broke the pattern and called  
"Resurection..." symply "Warhead", but no.
> 
> Q2. Where did the Doctor firt aquire K-9?
In the story "the Invisibly Enemy" on an asteroid turned into a hospital.  
He was built by professor Marius who got away with having a pet by making  
a computer in the shape of a dog. He gave K9 to the Doctor because he  
would soon be returning to Earth and not need a robot companion anymore.  
(some of this is semi-canon, not coming from the show but from the book  
"K9 and other Mechanical creatures")
> 
> Q3. What did the Doctor do (crime???) ?
We don't really know why he left Gallifrey originally. He has indicated  
that he was bored and just felt like leaving, but there is some indication  
that he way have been somewhat compelled to leave. After he'd been gone  
awhile the Time Lords caught up with him and put him on trial for  
interfering with the events of the Universe. He was exiled to earth for  
awhile. Leter he was put on trial again for similar charges, but thre were  
problems with the prosecutor and the trial was never completed.
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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: Questions on Doctor Who
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:46:02 GMT

Hi there!
  I am pretty new to newsgroups and have a few questions on the Doctor
that hopefully someone can answer. I've only been watching for about 2
years now but I've seen most of the 3,5,6,and 7th Doctors. Anyways,
here's the questions:
  1. What episode did the first Doctor regenerate in? What were the
circumstances surrounding it? I tried to watch for it on YTV but they
skipped over it and went to the 2nd Doctor. Did they call it a
regeneration? (I'm asking becuase in the WAR GAMES, they referred to
the Doctor's upcoming change as simply altering his appearance.)
  2. In the 5 Doctors, the third Doctor and Sarah came up against a
strange villian who's weapons came from inside his body and he moved
like lightning and took out a whole bunch of Cybermen. The Doctor knew
all about him but I'd never seen that foe before. When did the Doctor
meet it?
  3. In one of the sixth Doctor episodes (I forget which one) the
Doctor smashes a chair (or something) against a wall and inside the
wall is a portrait of the 3rd Doctor. Does anyone know in what ark the
3rd Doctor had visited that planet?
  4. What is supposedly happening to the Doctor now? I've heard that
the BBC has given him over to some other company. And this company is
either making a movie, continueing the show, or both! Which is it?
I've also heard (all this is hearsay, which I want to see verified.)
that assuming Doctor Who does continue, Slyvestor Mccoy does not want
to play the Doctor but will be willing to guest-star in a 6 Doctors
story or something. Is it true that this may be in the works?

   If anyone knows the answers to these questions...DON'T ANSWER THEM
HERE! I can't guarantee that I'll be able to see the response before
my university cancels the posting. Please email me at
abick@business.carleton.ca

Thanks in advance.

Alan
From: Dean.Rose@brunel.ac.uk (Dean W Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Location Filming
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:20:46 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK


Are there any Dr. Who fans out there who know the proper filming location 
for "Day of the Daleks"? Inparticular the mansion house used for 
Sir Reginald Styles' house.

Almost all of the location guides that I have consulted insist that the 
story was filmed at "Gunnersbury Park" (London), however I know that this is
incorrect.

I have heard from several sources that the Taplow area in Buckinghamshire
was used but I am yet to prove this. 

Is there anyone out there who has any further information or sources which 
may help? 

Cheers.

       Dean Rose.
From: drwho@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Taeri Bellasar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: DR. WHO BOOK -- SUBMISSIONS WANTED
Keywords: Whoosier Network Publications Project
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:56:19 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana


The Whoosier Network Publications Dept. is working on a fundraiser for the
club.  We're trying to put together a "Wit & Wisdom of Dr. Who" booklet that
will be sold through our newsletter, as well as other outlets.  Here is what
we would like:

Quotes or brief scenes from the series (whatever it takes to illustrate the
  point)
Quotes from novelisations
Quotes from the movies
Essays on the series (in relation to its wit or wisdom)
Anything else you wish to submit will be considered, including artwork

Quotes should include who said it, to whom, what episode (year if possible),
the name of the submitter, city & state, and any club the submitter may
belong to (plus any other pertinent information).

Everyone who can be credited will be.  We have not decided if the quotes
will be credited as they appear or on a list of credits at the end.  Essays
and artwork will most likely be credited as they appear.

PLEASE DO NOT SEND THEM AS A REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE.  SEND THEM TO:

nmarsh@indyvax.iupui.edu

I do not know how much longer I may have this account.

Thanx in advance for your support!

Neil Marsh
The Whoosier Network:
  YOUR Doctor Who Connection
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From: mrmuon@next15pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Face of Evil  (was Re: Immortal Companions)
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:58:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.144044.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>  
c8643631@cc.newcastle.edu.au (I AM NOT ON DRUGS. HONEST. I WAS BORN THIS  
WAY.) writes:
> According to Terrance Dicks in 'The Face Of Evil', the Doctor visited  
the
> Mordee expedition at some stage during the 'Robot' adventure. Now, since
> Terrance wrote 'Robot' this seems a good way to have it. It's not canon  
because
> it didn't happen on TV, but it fits easily and comfortably, especially  
as
> Sarah was not mentioned in the legends concerning Xoanon.

Of course Terrance didn't write "The Face of Evil" (script).
The place where the Mordee adventure is supposed to fit in in "Robot" is  
evidently the point where the Dr runs into the TARDIS and starts to  
dematerialize, but rematerializes immediately and comes out again because  
Sarah is shouting at him. The suggestion is that he actually went on a  
long trip during that interval. I don't buy it. The TARDIS wasn't working  
well enough to come back that precisely and the Dr certainly seemed to be  
reacting to Sarah's shouts, not returning from a voyage.
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: More Theories About the Doctor's Age
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 00:28:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.231401.10546@cs.ucf.edu> wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) writes:
>Why does everyone search for explanations about the shows inconsistencies
>rather than accept that the writers don't always keep track of past events
>or worry about the implications of such bold statements like giving the
>Doctor's exact age.
>
>What's the saying: "Too many cooks spoil the broth."? So many writers --
>so many inconsistencies. Don't expect to find explanations.
>
>Q: Can anyone explain why the Doctor is X years old here, and Y years old here?
>A: No. No one can. Next question please.
>
>Looking forward to watching this discussion again...
>
>Tom

Because there actually haven't been that many unsolveable inconsistencies.
The only unsolveable one I can think of is two conflicting versions of
the death of Atlantis, but other than that and the renaming of certain
Time Lord artefacts in "The Invasion of Time," I don't think there are
any continuity errors that simply can't have an explanation.

If anyone has any questions of some apparant continuity knots, please
post them and I will certainly try and solve them, and I'm sure there
are many others with their own theories who would like to comment too.
(At least I hope so, their ideas are probably better than mine :)

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From: david@donald.concordia.ca (David Gaudine)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Deborah Watling
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:56:23 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.drwho
Organization: Concordia University

In article <92LPqB1w164w@cellar.org> madmax@cellar.org (Alex Strumpf) writes:
>mwasserm@diana.cair.du.edu (MARC Y. WASSERMAN) writes:
>> 
>> Not bad at all.  But the best looking is still Zoe.  Dark
>> hair, elfin looks, cute smile, short.  She wins.
>
>Personally, I like Romana(Mary Tamm & Lalla Ward versions. :-) ) and Tegan.
>Now THOSE are hot babes, IMHO. ;-)
>
Why doesn't anybody like Nyssa?
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From: mrmuon@next02epsl.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Hello and some Questions..
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:47:02 GMT

In article <-403774@nemesis> quiz@nemesis.UUCP writes:
> 
> <>
> [0]Q1. I have noticed that many of the Dalek episode titles have 
> [0]    something to do with religion, eg. 'Genisis of the Daleks'
> [0]and 'Ressurection of the Daleks' I was wondering if anyone could
> [0]tell me if there is a reson for this, and how many of the titles
> [0]are this way?
> 
> The full list of Dalek-related stories is:
> Only the later stories seem to be stuck on the pattern you suggest.
Of the stories that are specifically Dalek stories the only ones that  
aren't "___ of the Daleks" are those which predate story titles. All the  
Dalek stories which came out under a single title have the same format (I  
don't consider "Mission to the unknown" as an independent story but as  
part of "Masterplan").
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wednesday, 9 Sep 1992 09:49:48 EST
From: Nadir U Ahmed <ACPS6410@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: DR. WHO COMPANION POLL ( was Re: Deborah Watling)
 <92LPqB1w164w@cellar.org>


Well....It seems it's that time, again to find out how the companions
rate in order of preference.......

  I would like you to tell me your 5 favorite companions and the 5
sexiest companions in order from 1 to 5.

ex. My favorite companions are:
    1.
    2.
    3.
    4.
    5.

Entries will be accepted until September 30, 1992

Now here's the list of his TV companions to date:
Susan Foreman
Barbara Wright
Ian Chesterton
Vicki
Steven Taylor
Katarina
Sara Kingdom
Dorothea "Dodo" Chaplet
Polly
Ben Jackson
James Robert McCrimmon
Victoria Waterfield
Brigadier Allistair Gordon Lethbridge-Stewart
Zoe Herriot
John Benton
Elizabeth "Liz" Shaw
Josephine "Jo" Grant
Mike Yates
Sarah Jane Smith
Harry Sullivan
Leela
K-9 Mark I
K-9 Mark II
Romanadvoratrelundar (the original)
Romana II (2nd incarnation)
Adric
Nyssa
Tegan Jovanka
Vislor Turlough
Perpugillium "Peri" Brown
Melanie Bush
Ace (Never call her Dorothy!)

Companions from other sources are welcome such as Frobisher in DWM.




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*           "I am the Doctor...whether you like it or not."           *
*                  Doctor to Peri, The Twin Dilemma.                  *
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*           "I'm in a deep sensation, a limbo void of time"           *
*  Paula Abdul, State of Attraction from the album Forever Your Girl  *
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*                    "Damn fine coffee...and HOT!"                    *
* Cooper after sipping Lucy's coffee and spewing it out of his mouth. *
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From: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter)
Subject: Re: Serial Codes: 7O or 7Q?
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:30:17 GMT
Organization: A Planet Of His Own

In article <4078@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.212013.4196@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) writes:
><Help!
><
><What is the proper BBS serial code for Ghost Light? While the list I ftp'd
><written by Lee Booth says it is 7Q, Lofficier's Terrestrial Index lists it
><at 7O. O doesn't seem to be a very popular letter; the only [other] O's
><listed are OO and OOO.
>
>What the Hell is a BBS serial code?  Try BBC Production Code.

I would send you a net.etiquette regarding the inappropriateness of pointing
out irrelevent spelling errors and typos, if all your mail didn't bounce.

							- greg
-- 
Greg Trotter
Norman, Oklahoma
Internet: greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu
Fidonet: 1:147/63       TrekNet: 87:6012/8009
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: what are the latest DWM and DWB on the market
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 05:49:00 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:

- In article <6ia4qB6w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
- >Okay, a question.  Recently  managed to pick up DWM 189 and heard of DWB 103
- >Question: what are the latest issues out at this time.
- >
- >Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
-
- Sitting right next to my keyboard right now is DWM Issue 191, dated 30th
- September (meaning 192 comes out about that date).
- Can't speak for DWB though.
-

Right, that does it!!  On June 12th, I also got a negotiated deal from Titan
Distributors saying they werre willing to exports overseas if I had enough
order.  Currently, my successor to the Club's Presidency in Edmonton has all
information, but inform anyone interested about bulk ordering.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Treaty of Maastricht, synonymous with the Key to Armageddon.
From: v116r8ac@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chris Nasipak)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Immortal Companions:  The Doctor's Age & His Companions
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:44:00 GMT
Organization: United Nations Intelligence Taskforce
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep8.193458.5759@wam.umd.edu>, mrmuon@next05pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes...
>there were two gaps with no humans on board (that I can think of):
>Keeper of Traken - Logopolis  with Adric as the only companion.
>Timeflight - Arc of Infinity with Nyssa
Inside _Robot_ - that's when he reprogrammed Xoanon, met James Kirk, &c.
The Deadly Assassain - The Face of Evil with no companion on board
Ressurection of the Daleks - Planet of Fire with Turlough
^^^^^^^^^^^^> Is that the right title?  I'm a little confused on all the RotD
              stories...

That's all I can think of for now...  Enjoy!


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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Re: What's the difference (was Re: Vido info...)
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 03:34:03 GMT

Ric_Goldman_-C@hqops.3mail.3com.com wrote:
>wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson) wrote:
>>ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) wrote:
>>>The Five Doctors (90 mins, movie format, minor edits)
>>So what's the different between a one-episode episode format and a one-
>>episode movie format (minor edits aside)?
>In this context, think of 'The Five Doctors' as a 4-episode "story", 
>with each episode having been transmitted separately, each with its own 
>cliffhanger.   For movie format, the episodes are editted together 
>without ending and opening credits for each, thus given the presentation 
>of a single story.

Why think of T5D as a 4-episode story when it's a 1-episode story? I've heard
that it was edited into a 4-ep story (probably by Lionheart), but that's a
different situation. There's no difference between between 1-ep format and
movie format in this case. One might call it movie format because (1) it was
released with other videos in movie format (whereas all new releases are
episodic) and (2) it's been edited (I assume it's shorter, although someone
told me there has been footage added -- I don't know what to believe).

My reasoning for pointing this out in the first place is to prevent those
who don't know from being mislead. T5D is a 1-ep story. So there is no worry
about buying the video in movie format since there would be no difference.
However, there still remains the possibility of it being edited (shorter).
This has stopped me from buying it along with the other old releases. I have
bought the new releases since they are unedited (and so the boxes say). I
won't buy T5D until someone assures me that I'm not missing something. I
already have it on tape, so why should I buy something inferior to what I
have. I've asked CBS/Fox about re-releases of movie format tapes and of course
I received no reply. Someone echoed here that they will not since (1) they
intend to drop Doctor Who and (2) it's not under their control.

I await clarification of the T5D video situation. I've had conflicting reports
until now.

Tom
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Pescatons On CD
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:35:34 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

>
>Two words:
>
>HELLO, DOLLY.
>
>One of the most ludicrous scenes Tom Baker has ever had to play.  Pure
>camp of the worst kind.
>
>I've heard the novel at least cut that bit out.  That's one point in
>Victor Pemberton's favor, at least.

Yes, and a whopping big point too!
The Pescaton experience is still very fresh in my head so I'm still
waffling back and forth between the two versions.  Today I feel like
the novel is better, but perhaps tomorrow I'll  think differently.
.
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