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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Need recommendations for new music! Help...
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:53:08 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

David Sinclair (ds@dcs.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
> 	Berttie Severt  (probably not how its spelt)

Bettie Serveert -- their album ``Palomine'' is up there with Sugar's ``Copper
Blue'', Throwing Muses' ``The Curse'' and the Fastbacks ``Zucker'' 
as one of the best pieces of guitar pop I've heard recently.

Ok, the band _look_ a sight, and the cover of the album features an
inexcusably cute cuddly toy dog... I was a bit wary for a couple of minutes
but the urge to explore convinced me to buy it...

...and I was suitably amazed. It's really simple stuff -- wonderfully
naturalistic sound, so well produced that it sounds unproduced, with 
lovely vocals by Carol van Dijk... if you aren't moved by songs like ``Kid's
Alright'', ``Balentine'' or the title track then you're probably dead
already. This is a wonderful, exquisitely-crafted album, at once both
intimate and assured, raw and polished... go out and make it part of your
life as soon as possible. It's a rare thing of beauty.

pete
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Subject: HOODOO GURUS
From: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) 
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:17:00 GMT
Reply-To: neil.black@uttsbbs.uucp (Neil Black) 
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-> From: shenness@ub.d.umn.edu (   HENN)
-> Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
-> Subject: Hoodoo Gurus
-> Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:58:07 -0600
-> Message-ID: <1jnnrvINNfn7@ub.d.umn.edu>
->
-> I was wondering if there are many Hoodoo Gurus fans out there. Does
-> anyone know if they are working on a new disc?  I saw them live 2
-> years ago in Minneapolis, (when they were touring for 'Kinky') and
-> they were great! Just wondering who else knows about them.  Please
-> email me or post if you want. Thanks ahead of time.  Also, does
-> anyone have a bootleg for them?  I would be interested in
-> buying/trading for it.
->
-> Steve

I don't know if they are working on a new release, but they did manage
to release a double disc called "Gorilla Biscuits".  One disc is a
singles collection (some songs are live, others are different mixes,
still others are album tracks).  The other disc is most (if not all) of
the b-sides to the singles.  Some of these songs are really great, like
Hayride To Hell Pt.2.

There was an album between Stoneage Romeos and Blow Your Cool!  It was
called Mars Needs Guitars.  I think that one is semi-difficult to find
nowadays because Big Time records has gone under (down under :)).  I
think that Mars is my favorite Hoodoo album, but Kinky is pretty great
too.  I wasn't a big fan of Magnum Cum Louder either.

The only "bootleg" I have of the Gurus is from MTV about 6 or 7 years
ago, when they used to show a concert every Sunday evening.  It's from
the Blow Your Cool! tour, and was taped at the Roxy in New York City.
Oh, it's a videotape.  Excellent quality.
                                                                    
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From: rude@camelot.bradley.edu (Kristen Ulrich)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: XTC
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:23:53 GMT
Organization: Bradley University

In <1993Jan24.111115.22452@math.ufl.edu> homey@oak.circa.ufl.edu writes:

>I'm looking for anything by XTC that I don't have.  I have White Album, 
>Go 2, Drums and Wires, Big Express, Black Sea, English Settlement, 
>Skylarking, Oranges and Lemons, Nonsuch, Mummer, Rag and Bones Buffet,
>Demo for Nonsuch and one for Skylarking, and I also have Chips from the
>Chocolate Fireball by Dukes of Stratosphear.

Stuff to look for in your quest:

The Homo Safari series
really good instrumentals, pretty hard to find.

Waxworks: Some singles 1977-1982
The title pretty much speaks for itself. This is not hard to find at
all; in fact, I think I may have even seen it in a Columbia House
Catalog somewhere.

Beeswax
The B-sides for the singles in Waxworks. VERY hard to find...in fact,
I'm the only person I know of who has an original copy of it on vinyl...and I've
nnever seen it on cassette. Some of the rare stuf on this album
showed up on Rag and Bone Buffet, but there are several songs not to
be found anywhere else except on the back of the singles. Good luck on
finding this one....

Black Sea Tour--A live recording from back in the days when all of
them were drunk all the time

"Mayor of Simpleton" single
I'm not too fond of "Mayor of Simpleton," but there are some B-sides
on this one that Andy and the boys recorded in his basement or
something...not produced at all, but pretty good.

"Toys" single
I've only seen it on cassette....

They have a video out, whose name I can't really remember, but it's
got videos for "This is Pop," "Respectable Street," "Towers of
London," "Making Plans for Nigel," "Ball and Chain," and several
others. 

Mr. Partridge, Take Away
Andy Partridge messes about with several
of the older XTC songs, including "Helicopter" off of Drums and Wires
and "Cairo" from the Homo Safari Series.

Plus, of course, stuff by the Colonel (aka Colin Moulding) and Trick
Bag (another alterego band)....

Whoa...quite a long response. Hope I've been of help.    


rude@camelot.bradley.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (The Mantle Clinic)
Subject: Re: ride/charlatans "Polar Bear"
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:21:57 GMT

d91-cni@dront.nada.kth.se  writes:
> 
> In article <1993Jan23.210956.5624@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ckt4x@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (The Mantle Clinic) writes:
> >barash@umbc.edu  writes:
> >> In article <1993Jan20.113026.2933@dct.ac.uk> mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk writes:
> >> There's a song by Ride that sounds extremely Byrdsian - I don't know
> >> what it is because I just saw a brief clip of it on 120 minutes long ago -
> >> it had a line something like "the way your hangs hangs down around your face,
> >> [...] seems like such a waste", with almost the same melody as the *verses* of
> >> "Starsign" by Teenage Fanclub.  Anybody know this song?  
> >
> >I believe the song is "Taste" but I'm not positive.  It has a
> >definite Byrdsian jangle though.
> 
> I don't think so, "the way your hair hangs down, it hides away your face,
> for you it's perfect but it seems like such a waste..." is from a song called
> "Like A Daydream" which is from the second Ride-EP "Play". 

Ack!  Right!  I screwed that one up.  Sorry about that, but
"Like A Daydream" is the one.  Don't know why I even said
"Taste" since it has no Byrdsian sound at all.  
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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: pavement music
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:25:20 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
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Pavement may not sound like Lou Reed per se, but they are strikingly similar
at times to the old Velvet Underground stuff.  I realize this will likely
offend hardcore Pavement fans, but try to look at it as a complement.  I am
not trying to turn this into a repeat of the Sugar v. Pixies thread.

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From: mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: No Stone Roses in Can?
Date: 27 Jan 93 09:36:12 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <SSAMMY.93Jan26114657@hunter-02.cs.strath.ac.uk>, ssammy@cs.strath.ac.uk (Paul Sammy 4th Year iE/CES) writes:
>>Regarding Re: No Stone Roses in Can?; mcsdc1al@dct.ac.uk adds:
> 
>  > In article <SSAMMY.93Jan25104222@fleming-03.cs.strath.ac.uk>, ssammy@cs.strath.ac.uk (Paul Sammy 4th Year iE/CES) writes:
>>>>Regarding No Stone Roses in Can?; HCRU@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (HCRU000) adds:
> 
>>>  > Can anybody out there in the U.K. tell me why The Stone Roses
>>>  > do not want to play in North America? Do they hate Americans?
>>>  > Do they have something against Mr.Mulrouney? If they came here
>>>  > to Canada or even the States they would make a killing! They are such a
>>>  > great band that its a shame that loyal fans like me get hot and
>>>  > bothered and just sit around waiting for other people to watch
>>>  > their music fade out around here. They play all over the U.K.
>>> 
>>>    They do?
>>>    Not that I've noticed, chum.
> 
> 
>  > The Stone Roses haven't played live since 1990.  Are you such a loyal fan that
>  > you didn't even know this?
> 
>  Please get your citations right.
>  I take it that that was for HCRU@MUSICT.MCGILL.CA (HCRU000) ?
> 
>  Paul


Keep your hair on, Paul.  You're British, right, so you're okay.  You know the
score.  Our friend HCRU@MUSICT.MCGILL etc seems to think that el Roses are
secretly playing King Tut's every weekend while not bothering with the Yanks.
   Some countries, eh?  They'll be asking where The Beatles got to next.

**Lucas**



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From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Indie dance thing is happening in Lond
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:33:06 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, keithw@castle.ed.ac.uk (Keith Watson) writes:
>You say "if there were no Byrds there would be no Ride, what about the
>Roses huh (who incidentally had never heard of the Byrds before 1990).
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

If you believe that, then I've got a bridge I'd like to
sell you.  It crosses the Thames and I can get it for you cheap if
you're willing to pay cash.
From: c60b-3kx@web-3d.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pixies RIP?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 07:17:55 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: web-3d.berkeley.edu


The Pixies also "broke up"
between the Doolittle and Bossanova albums.
I read about it in many mags...
it's probably a publicity stunt.
(They are just in it for the money, they claim)

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From: sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen epstein)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: songs about trains...
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:50:09 GMT
Organization: swarthmore college

Given the surprising amount of interest on the thread about songs with rain
in the title, I thought we might start another one on another great rock
'n' roll topic: trains.  Any theories on why trains are such a staple of
rock and roll are welcome.  Here's a list of songs off the top of my head
to start off:

"Freight Train Rain"--Zeitgeist
"Trains, Brains and Rain" --The Flaming Lips (hmm, two with trains & rain)
"Leaving Train"-- The Leaving Trains
"I Often Dream of Trains"-- Robyn Hitchcock
"Into You like A Train"-- The Psychedelic Furs
"Can't Ignore the Train"--10,000 Maniacs (well covered by the Pop Guns)
"Love Train" --THe Woodentops (not to be confused with the O'Jays song of
the same name)
"Jumping Someone Else's Train"-- The Cure
"This Train"-- 28th Day, Girls at Our Best (original by Pete Seeger?)
"Drug Train"-- The Cramps
"Train From Kansas City"--The Shop Assistants (also covered very well by
Superchunk)
"If Love Were A Train"--Michelle Shocked
"Jubilee Train"-- The Blasters

Going astray somewhat from alt.music.alternative:
"Mystery Train"--Elvis...
"Last Train to Clarksville"--The Monkees

Songs that reproduce the sound of trains:
The P-furs, Cure, Woodentops, and Superchunk tunes all seem to me to
attempt to reproduce the rhythm of a train.  Ditto for Kraftwerk's
"Trans-Europe Express."  Anyone want to add to the list?

Stephen
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From: jis@panix.com (Linus Van Pelt)
Subject: UNREST sings Josie and the Pussycats.....
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:41:31 GMT

Wouldn't it be great if Mark Robinson did a version of this?

Everybody get funky with Josie and the Pussycats!
--------------------------------------------------------

Josie and the Pussycats!
Long tails, and ears for hats!
Guitars and sharps and flats,
Neat, sweet, a groovy song,
You're invited, come along!
Hurry, Hurry!

See all of Persia,
Or maybe France,
We could be in India or by chance.
We were once in Bangkok,
Makes no difference,
Everywhere the action's at
We're involved with this and that.
Come on along now!

Josie and the Pussycats!
Long tails and perfects hats!
Won't run, when they hear 'Scat!'
They're where the plot begins,
Yeah-yeah-yeah!
Come and watch the good guys win,
Josie and the Pussycats!
Josie and the Pussycats!
Yeah!
From: hamster@xymox.apana.org.au (Anthony Horan)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Help with NIN songs
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Date: 22 Jan 93 21:49:26 AEDT
Organization: Disorganized...

In article <C16LLv.44E@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> watcher@coos.dartmouth.edu (Markus A. Laine) writes:

> >    Does anyone have any ideas for the titles to the songs listed
> >    as numbers 98 and 99 on the Nine Inch Nails EP "Broken"?

> The songs are (as far as I know) "Physical (You're So)" written by
> Adam Ant and "Suck".  I don't have the lyrics though.

Hey thanks, I was curious about that too. I knew that Adam Ant and Pigface
were responsible, but not what the songs were called. Incidentally, mine
came on a seperate 3" CD inside the package, and the actual "Broken" CD
only had 6 tracks...

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From: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Subject: re: straightedge
Originator: tphailey@c00091-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:10:14 GMT


In article <1993Jan21.213108.3561@massey.ac.nz>, R.E.Bradshaw@massey.ac.nz (R.E. Bradshaw) writes:
> >....can anyone please explain to me what 'straight edge' stand for??
> 
> "don't drink, don't smoke, don't fuck (wrong order?), at least i can
> fuckin' think" Ian McKaye
> 
> it's a branch of hardcore followers who take Mr McKaye too literally
> (IMHO), completely abandoning all forms of vice.  Very morally sound,
> but there'll never be another generation  of them if they don't have
> sex.

Hey, who wasn't straight edge at one time or another? Well, I guess most of 
you weren't, but I, along with a lot of friends, were into it. It's just a 
positive lifestyle. I finally decided I was never a really positive person
anyway, so why bother. But people will argue about this for ages so please 
don't take any of this as law. But I'll start by mentioning a few of the 
more prominent SE bands: Minor Threat, Dag Nasty, DYS, 7 Seconds, Uniform
Choice, Unity, SSDecontrol, Youth of Today, hell, there's a lot. But it is 
basically a way of thinking and living without having to resort to the abuse
of any substance. A lot of SE kids are about 15 or so and so they don't have 
all the pressures to get wasted and it makes it a little easier to be SE (don't
get me wrong, they still have pressures and access to drugs, but let's face it
it's nothing like college. A lot of my friends went by the "Straight for life"
motto, but alas, they're all drunks now that they're here at school). Most 
SE followers interpret "the rules" (for lack of a better word) diferently. 
Not too many take the "no sex" clause to heart, but drugs and alcohol are
generally ruled out. Lately, a lot of SE bands are starting to mix the Hari
Krishna beliefs into their music (no shit). If this is your thing, check out
Shelter, Ray of Youth of Today's current band. Personally, I think mixing
religion with anything is stupid, but oh well. I have a headache now so I'll
leave it at that.

TOMASS
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From: cei308@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Jet Girl)
Subject: Re: pj harvey question...
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:17:50 GMT

In article <1jnkblINNgjp@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mattski@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matt Skawinski) writes:
>
>ok, quick question:
>	did  pj harvey release an album called 'DRYER' or 'DRIER'? i heard
>she was supposed to release an all-acoustic version of the album 'DRY' and
>it was (or will) (or should be) in stores a few months ago...
>however, i cannot find it though try as i may to find it... i thought it 
>might just be a fictitious story until i heard a song on FNX recently...
>it was a song off of the 'DRY' album but all acoustic (with just a tad bit
>of electric guitar)... is it a single or an actual album or am i just dreaming
>.... any help would be greatly appreciated...   THANX   >

Okay, here we go again....

"Dry" was released with a limited edition 4-track LP "Demonstration", other-
wise known as "Dryer" in the US/Canada/maybe other places.  It is not really
an acoustic album as most of the songs were recorded using Polly's Gretsch
which was nicked after the Burnley date in April and certainly use amplific-
ation.  They were slimply recorded on a 4-track, as was "Dry" (the song) on
the b-side of the "Dress" 12".  It sold out pretty quickly over here (I dont
know where you come from - sorry) in England as there were only about 1500
(hmmm...or maybe 15000), but a friend of mine DOES have a copy with a higher
number.  It is now near impossible to buy "Dry" in England WITH "Demonstra-
tion", but I know that Piccadily Records in Manchester are selling the vinyl
edition for 20 pounds.

I dont know whether I personally prefer the 4-track versions or not.  Some,
such as "Oh My Lover" are quite stunning and much better than the band version,
but others ("Sheela-na-gig") perhaps benefit from a fuller arrangement.  Still,
it's interesting to hear a (seemingly) young Polly Harvey.

As I think I have already posted, the new album should contain some 4-track
versions of new songs...I think they are included on cassette and CD auto-
matically and as a limited edition on vinyl.

Still looking for US bootlegs by the way folks....please e-mail me with info!

love

Joolz
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From: ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pop Will Eat Itself
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:22:19 GMT

In <C19IoI.47J@cck.coventry.ac.uk> jfw@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Lobo) writes:

>How many formats of Gat the Girl have been released worldwide????

I keep hearing the song referred to that way.  Isn't it called "Ruff Justice?"
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From: gdg019@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Ridley McIntyre)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: help with song/band
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:07:44 GMT
Organization: Fifth Column, Coventry, UK

In article <1993Jan22.160244.27671@leland.Stanford.EDU> tony@ajax.Stanford.EDU (Tony Evans) writes:
>Haven't got much for you guys to go on with this one.  Main lyric is
>something like "pushing up the little daisies".  Vocals are incredibly
>ambiguous.  Girl, boy, man, woman, couldn't tell you.  All I do know
>is its strange and strangely funny.
>
>Oh yea it was on 105.3's (San Fran) new music challenge yesterday.

What the hell did it sound like? I mean De La Soul had a track that
went like that, but I doubt someone from here would be into that...
I know I am, but then I'm also on the Deviant's Mailing List...

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From: grove@uk.tele.nokia.fi (Paddy Grove)
Subject: Re: Zodiac Mindwarp...
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications, Transmission Product Development,
	Cambridge, UK
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:43:36 GMT


    Would anyone care to lay odds as to the likelihood that I will find
    recordings this long after the fact by Zodiac Mindwarp and the Love
    Reaction?  I really thought they were great (hilarious and muchly rockin').

    You don't agree?  I'd put "Kick Start Me for Love" up against a Romantic
    sonnet anyday!

Believe it or not, he's just released a new album. There's a review in the
Jan or Feb issue of Select. Apparently he's tried to go serious and failed!
He alse appears in the Feb issue in a feature on body piercing. Says
something like "I got my knob pierced so I could drop it into conversations
with girls so they'd think 'Hmm, wonder what it's like to shag a guy with a
ring through his knob'"

I only remember "Prime Mover", which was fairly standard HM as I recall.

    Paddy


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