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From: russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Nutritional value of popcorn.
Organization: WP Group
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:50:19 GMT

From article <1992Oct13.162413.17536@pixel.kodak.com>, by young@serum.kodak.com:
>    POPCORN, Air-popped, unsalted, 1 cup (8 grams):
> 
> 	water		--> 4%
> 	Calories	--> 30
> 	protein		--> 1 gram
> 	fat		--> trace
> 	carbohydrate	--> 6 grams
> 	calcium		--> 1 mg.
> 	phosphorus	--> 22 mg.
> 	iron		--> 0.2 mg.
> 	potassium	--> 20 mg.
> 	sodium		--> trace
> 	vitamin A	--> 10 I.U.
> 	thiamine	--> 0.03 mg.
> 	riboflavin	--> 0.01 mg.
> 
>    [taken from USDA data]

One point about popcorn that warrants consideration.  According to
the USDA data, it has '0' lysine unlike corn in other forms.  I'd
appreciate it if someone could explain how the popping process
removes lysine so selectively.

-- 
Russell Lawrence, WP Group, New Orleans (504) 443-5000
russ@wpg.com   uunet!wpg!russ
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From: npm@dale.cts.com (Nancy Milligan)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Nutritional value of popcorn.
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:08:07 GMT
Organization: Titan Linkabit
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Popcorn is almost a staple in my diet.  It really doesn't have a lot
to offer in nutrients, but it is a pretty good source of fiber.  I
think 4 cups of popped corn is about 92 calories (going from memory).

I found some microwave popcorn bags at Lectner's (can't spell it).  They
are heavy (feel like a cross between cloth and paper) bags, and a little
larger than a lunch bag.  3 of them clost $1.50 and you can reuse each one
three times.  

It's kinda cool.  You hold the bag under running water, just until it's
wet all over on the outside, then you put in the popcorn and fold over 
the top.  You don't need butter, but you can use it if you want.

Now, I've heard of people who have started fires in their microwave doing
this with lunch bags, so I make certain I'm right there the whole time.
I have used a regular lunch bag once, but it's so flimsy I'm afraid it'll
catch on fire, even though I wet it first.

I think that plain popcorn is about the most boring substance in the
universe so I sprinkle it with either tabasco sauce or soy sauce, and
then some parmesean cheese and some good tasting brewer's yeast.  (Yeah,
I know yeast sounds funny, but it really does taste good, if you buy
the right type.  I'm hooked on it.  Plus it's just loaded with
vitamins, 'specially B-vitamins).  Even my kitty likes to eat popcorn.

Anyone have any other cool ways of microwaving non-fat popcorn?

--
Nancy P. Milligan 				npm@dale.cts.com
Titan Linkabit					cts!dale!npm
3033 Science Park Road
San Diego, CA 92121
From: jsl+@pitt.edu (John S Lundberg)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: Help! What's Happen?
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:26:57 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <81604@ut-emx.uucp> osborne@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Rebecca Osborne) writes:
>week on Sunday.  The first week, I lost 4 pounds, the second 
>week, 2 pounds - just as I expected. The third week however ended
>on Sunday and I only lost .75 pounds.  I was really discouraged.
>I have not been able to figure out what is different - and I am 
>now hoping someone in the group might have some insight.   

In my opinion it's fundamentally unrealistic to attempt to track
weight changes as fine as .75 lbs.  There are a variety of factors
which lead to daily fluctuations in weight *whatever* you do for
diet and exercise--water retention and fullness of the digestive
tract are the two that occur to me.  The difference between 2 pounds
and .75 pounds is only 20 ounces of fluid (less than two diet sodas).

>I have never excercised before.  This time I am walking between
>1.5 and 2 miles 3 or 4 times per week.  

That's outstanding but probably has little immediate impact on
weight loss; the key is to integrate those exercise patterns into
your daily life and then keep it up for the long term (i.e., years).
Exercise has benefits that transcend weight loss--the goal should
be to become healthier and not just lighter.

>So, here I am, wondering why my program isn't working. 

But if you have lost weight and are exercising and are becoming
more aware of what you're eating then your program IS working
even if the scale doesn't produce the numbers you're looking for.
Consider changing your standard for declaring your program a
success and avoid short term goals.  

>Should I reconsider my plan and go to 1300 per day, loosing about
>1/2 pound a week?   

I think you need to find an intake level that you're comfortable
with so you can keep it up over the long term.  Just be sure that
you're rigorous about tracking your intake--I know that before I
started keeping food logs I was a lousy guesser of food values.
-- 
John Lundberg  
jsl@unix.cis.pitt.edu
From: majch@kodak.com (Kelly Majchrzak)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: WW with Steve
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:53:25 GMT
Reply-To: majch@kodak.com (Kelly Majchrzak)
Organization: Image Processing Algorithms Laboratory, Eastman Kodak Co.

In article <1992Oct14.173534.18237@walter.bellcore.com>, dfw@thumper..bellcore.com (Doris Woods) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct13.134508.13481@news2.cis.umn.edu> jill@gopher.ccbr.umn.edu (Jill Hollifield) writes:
|> >In article <1992Oct13.071727.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> dwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:
|> >>--Sorry to add this to the net but my email bounced!  Steve, I'm really
|> >>interested in your proposal for email WW.  Can you give more info about
|> >>what/how you plan to do it?
|> >>
|> >>You can send to my email address noted below.
|> >> 
|> >>Deb
|> >>dwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu
|> >>
|> >
|> >Please add me to the e-mail info list as well . . .
|> >
|> >Jill
|> >
|> >
|> 
|>  Another me too msge.
|> 
|>  Doris
|>  dfw@thumper.bellcore.com

 
Dito!

kelly
majch@gabber.Kodak.com

Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: jennie+@cs.cmu.edu (Jennifer Kay)
Subject: Microwave popcorn poppers
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 15:29:08 GMT

About 4 years ago I bought a microwave popcorn popper at a kitchen
store. Its a hard plastic thing shaped a bit wierd. You just stick
the popcorn in and press go. I think it's made by rubbermaid, but
I've seen other similar ones at kitchen shops too. Cost maybe $10.

-- Jennie
From: rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: holidays
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:35:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Oct8.103413.8233@newstand.syr.edu> mprisco@puma.cat.syr.edu () writes:

>I think this is a good way to look at things.  I mean, I think
>the only reason people lose weight from low fat diets is that
>they're cut calories in general.  If they wind up with as many
>calories by substituting other foods, they still won't lose.    
>That's why I don't feel like cutting fats will work for me,
>I seem to make up for it!  And that's why WW does work becuase
>its mostly about portion control...
>

>for a day...  is it worth it?)  I think one day of overindulgence
>will do less damage than several days of slight overindulgence.
>This is just a feeling and I have *no* evidence that
>its true.  Any ideas on this?  

>Margot

Hi Margot!

I think this is an excellent time to think of Maximizing *calorie
usage* as much as you consider minimizing *calorie intake*! I have
found that increasing my activity levels helps *a lot*!!

Perhaps it is time for some *new* family traditions at Christmas
time...

I am hoping to make ice skating ( at a rink here in California) a
regular Christmas tradition ( any two hours that gets me moving *and*
keeps me away from the cookies is a good thing :-))

Last year the CEO of the company declared "sweet week" where every day
the week before Christmas people filled tables in their work areas
full of baked goods and candy. I gained about 5 lbs. that week. This
year I am planning on having a strategy for dealing with this! I am
going to learn to skate, I am going to bring the weight watcher
desserts in my lunch  so I don't feel deprived, and one day (like
you) I am going to enjoy the goodies of the season!

I think you are very wise to be thinking of a plan far in advance!
Best wishes! We will all have to report on the success and failures of
our holiday strategies so we can compare notes at the first of the
year!

rf
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Re: holidays
From: abel@vax.sonoma.edu
Date: 7 Oct 92 11:12:20 -0800
Organization: Sonoma State University

In article <1992Oct7.134236.12436@chpc.utexas.edu>, jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.133514.27633@newstand.syr.edu>, mprisco@lynx.cat.syr.edu () writes:
> |> 
> |> Well, with the weather turning colder, I've been thinking
> |> about the up coming holidays.  Well, what I'm really thinking
> |> about is Christmas cookies.  I'm a real cookie monster and
> |> now I'm wondering if I'll be able to eat any holiday goodies
> |> without going nuts!  
> |> [rest deleted]
> 
> Margot,
> 
> I plan on baking this year, but I'm going to try all the fat-free
> or low-fat variations I can find.  I'm going to make cookies that

Stuff deleted

> skim milk worked just as well), and the nuts are optional.  Which brings
> me to that same old question that I never really have gotten a good answer
> to:  how likely is it that excess calories in simple sugars will be stored
> as fat?  Or can I eat as much as I want of something (I realize fudge
> is a poor example here, but you get my point) as long as it's not fat?

100% of the excess calories will be stored as fat 100% of the time.  
When I was younger, the dieting emphasis was on sweets.  Granted, 
some sweets have a lot of calories, but sometimes it is due to the 
fat content.  Nowadays, the emphasis is on cutting back your fat 
consumption.  This makes sense, since fat has many more calories than 
sugar.  However, calories are calories, and the excess will be stored 
as fat, whether they come from fat, protein, starch or sugar.  Eating 
even one teaspoon of sugar per day will add up to several pounds of 
fat over a year (sugar is 17 calories per teaspoon).
From: peggys@orca.wv.tek.com
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Walkers
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:59:54 GMT
Reply-To: peggys@orca.wv.tek.com
Organization: Network Displays Manufacturing, Tektronix,Inc

Now that I have made the commitment to get my exercise by walking I have a
couple of questions to all you walkers out there.  What do you do to stay
motivated and look forward to your walks.  I have my walkman and music and I've
had people recommend audio books.  Anyone do anything unique or different that
they've found keeps them going?

My other question is which do you prefer...walking a specific distance or just
walking for X amount of time?  I'm trying to figure what my long term goals
might be.  We have started out with 3 laps around the local park which works
out to 30-40 mins.  It is under construction right now & it's blocked off to
cars so I can't drive it to see what the distance is yet, but I will when 
they open it back up.  

					Peggy

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          | Tektronix, Inc., Network Displays Division	      |
          | PO Box 1000, MS 60-430, Wilsonville, OR 97070     |
          | (503) 685-2030 - email: peggys@orca.WV.TEK.COM    |
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Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark)
Subject: Re: holidays
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 19:34:55 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <1992Oct7.111220.1@vax.sonoma.edu> abel@vax.sonoma.edu writes:
>
>100% of the excess calories will be stored as fat 100% of the time.  

When the liver converts excess calories to triglycerides, the conversion
is not 100% efficient. It is most efficient when the source is dietary
fat, which is the a reason why dietary fat is targeted as a factor in
obesity and heart disease.

Not all excess calories convert to equal amounts of excess body fat. It
differs with respect to their dietary source.

Nevertheless, you can defeat a low-fat diet by eating an excess
of non-fat foods, which is the point I think you were trying to make.
From: jane@tortoise.ee.lbl.gov (Jane Colman)
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
Subject: Lowfat chocolate cake recipe
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:51:08 GMT
Followup-To: alt.support.diet
Distribution: usa
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.112.27

I served this cake at a birthday picnic last week.  Everyone
thought it was wonderful had trouble believing that it was
low in fat (allegedly 1.5 g per serving).  It's a very dense,
moist, chocolatey cake that certainly satisfies my desire
for a rich dessert.

COCOA SIGH CAKE   (so called because it puffs up and then sinks)

Slightly adapted and taken without permission from Sunset Magazine

CAKE
1 cup pastry flour                   1 1/4 cups sugar
3/4 cup unsweetened cocoa            1 cup nonfat milk
1 1/2 teaspoons baking powder         2 teaspoons vanilla
1 1/2 teaspoons baking soda           6 large egg whites

  In a small bowl, mix flour, cocoa, baking powder, and baking soda.
In a large bowl, beat 3/4 cup sugar, milk, and vanilla until well
blended.  Stir in flour mixture and beat until evenly moistened.
  In another large bowl, using clean, dry beaters, whip egg whites on
high speed until frothy; gradually beat in remaining 1/2 cup sugar (1
tablespoon at a time) until stiff, moist peaks form.  Immediately add
to cocoa mixture, gently folding in until evenly blended.
  Pour batter into a lightly oiled and floured 9-inch removable-rim
pan (at least 3 inches deep).  Gently zigzag a spatula through batter;
smooth top.
  Bake in a 350 degree oven until a toothpick inserted in center of
cake come out clean, about 45 minutes.  Cool on  a rack.  As cake
cools, it will settle and sink slightly in the center.

FROSTING
2/3 cup unsweetened cocoa           1 cup nonfat milk
1/2 cup sugar                       1 teaspoon vanilla
1/3 cup cornstarch

  In a 1- to 2-quart pan, stir together cocoa, sugar, and cornstarch.
Add milk and whisk until well blended, with no lumps remaining.
  Cook over medium heat, stirring constantly and scraping pan bottom
and sides with a whisk, until glossy and thick, about 7 minutes.
  Remove pan from heat, add vanilla, and beat to remove all lumps.
Cool completely, stirring occasionally.  If made ahead, cover and
chill up until next day.

FILLING AND ASSEMBLY
6 to 8 ounces raspberry, apricot, or other jam (optional)

  If desired, slice cake in half to make two layers (this is best done
when cake is cold) and fill with jam.  If frosting has been chilled,
bring it to room temperature before spreading evenly on top and sides
of cake.  Cake can be kept, covered, in the refrigerator for one day.
Serves 12 to 16.

Jane Colman    JLColman@lbl.gov
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: wensel@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Sharon Taylor)
Subject: Re: NordicTrack
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:04:27 GMT

I have owned a Nordic Track machine for about a year.
I think it is the best exercise machine on the market.
Unlike exercise bikes, you don't get tired of sitting
on an uncomfortable seat during your whole workout.
Also, it exercises your entire body.  The way your body
moves feels like a cross between cross country skiing
and jogging.  It feels really natural to me.

As with any exercise machine, the question is
"will you actually use it regularly?"  I can't tell you that
I use it every day and have lost a hundred pounds or anything
like that.  Everybody has their own battle with making time
to exercise.  However, when I do decide to exercise
I love using the Nordic Track.  It's really fun! 
My best success has been when I worked out while
watching t.v.  I keep the machine behind our sofa in
the living room, and wheel it out when I'm watching
a t.v. show.  The time goes by rather quickly (except
during the commercials!) and you get a really good workout.

That brings me to model selection.  I have a Nordic Track "Pro"
model.  It was the middle of the road model in terms of
price/options.  I chose it because it was the cheapest model
that had wheels (so it's easier to move) and an adjustable incline.
Even the cheapest model of Nordic Track is quite good, but
it's hard to move the thing unless you get the model with wheels.

Since the Nordic Track machine is a big investment, you might
want to see if you can try one out before you buy one.
In many cites, there are Nordic Track stores.  Or, do you
have any friends that have one?  

Good luck with your decision!
/sharon

Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: dwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: WW with Steve
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:17:27 GMT

--Sorry to add this to the net but my email bounced!  Steve, I'm really
interested in your proposal for email WW.  Can you give more info about
what/how you plan to do it?

You can send to my email address noted below.
 
Deb
dwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu

Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: wolfson@regatta.sps.mot.com (Stephen Wolfson)
Subject: Re: WW
Organization: SPS
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:47:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.144321.6846@newstand.syr.edu>  
mprisco@lynx.cat.syr.edu writes:
> 
> in (I haven't attended a meeting in months).  I'd really
> like to become a life time member but I'm afraid it will
> take me another 3 months to reach goal and then I need to
> be there (I plan on going lower) for 6 more weeks to get
> my lifetime membership.  This could cost me another $200.  I'm
> wondering two things:  If I stop going, will it be harder
> for me to stay on it?  And, is it worth getting your lifetime
> membership?  Rationally, I feel like I should stop going
> but I also feel superstitious about it.  Its not like I'm
> getting any support (I usually go weigh in early and 
> only see the receptionist)....  Any ideas?
> 
Well alot depends on the individual.  Since you've been doing it pretty
much on your own and feel you can maintain control, the you can stop.
If the $$ aren't really the problem only the though of spending the $$
I would go since the act of just showing up and having someone else weigh
you in may be the control you need to stick to the plan.  Getting to goal  
and becoming a lifetime member is worth it, by adding a sense of  
completion to your efforts.

You also get the Maintenance Plan, which is a way to determine how
much you can eat without gaining weight and a list of food calories etc.

I spent almost 4 years as a WW group leader and when people stopped 
the majority (that were willing to come back later) came back weighing
more, and a significant # of them came back at their original weight
or higher.

This brings up another point.  If enough people are interested I'm
willing to start a WW like class via email, this would be a mailing
list, I don't want to post since I want people who are willing to
actively participate in the group.  Also as I get to know the group
I'm willing to give out my phone # for those who have problems they
feel uncomfortable with over email, or just want the reassurance of
a real human bean.  While I don't have hard #'s, I've had a good rate
in the past of my group members reaching their goal weight.

My lecture style is a lot of hard facts, practical tips, recipes, 
positive motivation, humor, and belief that all of my group members
are individuals who have their own unique problems in dealing with
wieght loss.  While I do talk about the psychlogical aspects of 
weight loss, I don't like the lecturers who tend to dwell on the 
"overweight as disease" aspect and try to run their classes as almost
a 12-Step type group.  If I get at least 5 people interested I'll
turn on the mailing list.  You don't have to be on WW to join, I'll
probably pull info on my lectures from other sources.  My overall 
belief is still consistant with WW in the a balanced diet program
of many foods in reasonable quantities causing moderate weight loss
is the best way to go.  If you disagree with this, that's your right,
just keep it to the newsgroup not my email list.

Remember: Nothing tastes as good, as being thin feels.

-- Steve
 
Newsgroups: alt.support.diet,sci.med.nutrition
From: kudzu@netcom.com (Michael Sierchio)
Subject: Re: Nutritional value of popcorn.
Organization: True Love, and Home-Grown Tomatoes
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:30:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.145529.10020@access.usask.ca> 
	skeeter@skatter.usask.ca writes:

>Okay, would someone like to fill me (us) in on what exactly lysine is
>and why it is such a concern?

Lysine is an essential amino acid.  Except for a few hybrids, corn is
notoriously low in Lysine, and always has been.  This presents a problem
in corn-based diets that are deficient in other sources of Lysine.

And six grams of corn protein would probably contain 0% of your RDA
of Lysine,  and there's no mystery about that...
-- 
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|  kudzu@netcom.com                                Berkeley, CA 94707-2116 |
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Newsgroups: alt.support.diet
From: sjryan@iastate.edu (S. J. Ryan)
Subject: Re: Weight Watchers
Keywords: meetings, motivation
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 16:46:08 GMT

	Linda Cutsforth made many good points about WW.  As a lifetime
memter, I have been motivated--and disgusted--depending on the lec-
turer.  
	I don't agree, however, that it's totally "my fault" if I
don't keep weight off.  When you're paying that much for a program, and
they address motivation problems, you should be free to call on someone
when you're having motivation problems.  That seemed to be a weakness, 
at least where I attended.  Also, gaining weight is not a fault of
character.  There are lots of things that go into it, and at least in
my case, feeling guilty about my actions and shameful because I ate 
something "bad" is one of the biggest problems.  There are not"good"
and "bad" foods--but habits die hard.  It's probably (undoubtedly) easy
to concentrate on the "failure" of having gone to WW four times.  I hope
you won't concentrate on that.  This is a new time for you--the present--
and it has nothing to do with before.

	Good luck, and no guilt!

Sandi
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: holidays
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:33:09 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.134236.12436@chpc.utexas.edu> jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd) writes:
>P.S.  My mother's recipe for fudge contains no fat (it uses a full can 
>of evaporated milk, and I'd have to experiment to see if the evaporated
>skim milk worked just as well), and the nuts are optional.  

Um, I hate to say this, but evaporated milk is loaded with milk fat,
PLUS chocolate has cocoa butter.  I suppose you might be able to do something
with evaporated skim milk and cocoa powder, but I'm no candy maker.

Now, during the holidays, just be prudent and have what you like.  Eat
a little less the day before and after the big day.  A piece of fudge
isn't going to kill you.  And remember: we don't get fat from
Thanksgiving and Xmas or other holidays.  We get fat from eating that
way the the REST of the time.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
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