From: misc2@cse.unl.edu ()
Subject: Re: To all you weenies....
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 06:57:56 GMT


zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:

>>In article <1992Apr7.000947.10790@husc3.harvard.edu> tloh@husc8.harvard.edu (Teck Loh) writes:
>>>In article <1992Apr6.144124.17239@athena.mit.edu> zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:
>>>>
>>>>	To all you people who are taken in by the propaganda of
>>>>certain Western countries regarding our logging, my reply to you is:

>>>>go fuck yourself.  Read what our Prime Minister said regarding our
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>bertaubatlah sebelum kamu disembahyangkan.......Zam

>>>>controlled logging, and maybe, you will understand once and for all,
>>>>why the whole issue has been blown out of proportion to make us
>>>>accountable for what is essentially the developed nations' mistakes.
>>>>Open your mind, and try seeing how some developed nations are using
>>>>the logging issue to hide the lack of steps taken by their government
>>>>to fight global warming.  Your ignorance and willingness to trust some
>>>>foreign governments make me sick!!  If I were you, I would take all
>>>>the precautionary steps not to reproduce because your children will
>>>>turn out to be just like you -- unfaithful, and easily taken in by the
>>>>propaganda of other governments.
>>>>
>>>>	Hopefully, the government will continue to log at the present
>>>>rate, or increase it to show to the world that we are not affected by
>>>>their propaganda or their pressures...
>>>>
>>>>===------ 
>>>>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>>>>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>>>>promised to take our land and they took it.
>>>>                                                        Red Cloud
>>>
>>>It is your freedom to express what you think. But your article makes me sick.
>>>I think it is time for you to treat your fellow Malaysian as mature aldult.
>>>Saudara NorAazizam, We can judge what is right from wrong.
>>			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>$	Of course you can, comrade Loh!  You and your ilks live by the
>                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
>>premise that everything that the Malaysian government does is wrong.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>You know why?  Because you are born with a hypocrite gen, and there is
>>no way anyone can do that can change your attitude towards the
>>government.  Why don't you all do us a favor and migrate to Hong Kong,
>>because that is probably what you have been aiming for all your time.
>>Malaysia will be better off with people whose loyalty is with Malaysia
>>and not with other states like Singapore, RPC, Taiwan or Hong Kong.

>>>At least, we are trying to look at the problems and try our very best
>>>to solve it. Anybody who has stayed in Malaysia and know the logging
>>>industry will tell you that we do not need the western or Malaysia
>>>propanganda to know the truth.

>>	And another informed bloke just told me that we have to cut
>>down or stop logging to save the ozone layer.  What is next?  Are you
>>going to tell me that acid rain will no longer be the issue if we stop
>>cutting trees down?

>>>I think that people who are responsible and dare to say what is wrong
>>>should produce more because they make the world a better place to
>>>live. 

>>	This criterion should rule you and your ilks out
>>automatically...

>>===------ 
>>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>>promised to take our land and they took it.
>>                                                        Red Cloud

Calling himself the future leader of the M'sian society makes me wonder what
the country would be like.  Maybe another dictator is in the making and
just couldn't believe that he is from Malaysia.  From the statements that
above Zam seems to be fear of the competition that he is facing in the future
and possibly now itself.  He is trying to get rid of his fellow 'good M'sians'
by citing that they are anti-government and what so ever but he failed to 
realise that without the other races in the country he wouldn't even have the
chance to be here today, given that all the malays are equally distributed in
terms of wealth and education.(I bet M'sia would not look like what it is 
today)
Bila nak matang, kalau bukan sekarang.... hendak lagi hisap susu cap Gantung ke!

Grow up boy, lets have some mature discussions.  No one is criticizing the
government nor wants our beloved country to be undermined by others, however
you are the one who makes things looks ugly by not taking into account the facts
that might happen in the future as cited by other contributers.  I guess what
we are trying to conclude here is that the government should proceed with the
logging process but we must also take into account the process of replanting
the trees in order to make more MEGA BUCKS in the future, given that trees are
just another product of mother nature.  What you fail to understand is that
of your misinterpretation of the points cited by others.  I guess you are just
borned to be anti "other races", what is your problem?  I would like to hear if
you have personally encountered any mistreatment by the other races in M'sia.
We supported the government all the way in the development and progression of
our beloved country until what it is today, given the fact that we are still
being called a SECOND citizen by 'budak kecil' who wants to 'main politik' on
the netnews.
Felt so sorry for you and also for my country, M'sia, because you do not even
have your own idea in figuring out what is good and what is bad.  What you know
is just what Dr. Mahathir says or whoever your favorite politicians says.  It
has been in your mind that they are correct in everything that they do, without
being able to analyse the pro and cons of it. I guess if Dr.Mahathir says 
"Do your mama for me", you will definitely agree with him.
I guess that is enough flame from me today....wah...lega rasanya...

yang benar,
bapa anakanda.

p/s.  Sorry for those who felt offended by some of the vulgarity in this
      posting, but I would certainly be glad to treat such a bastard with
      the equal treatment that he had provide to us.

chris ....(misc2@cse.unl.edu)


--
The malay man made many promises to us but they never kept but one:
they promised to take our land and they took it. Now they are coming for
our culture and civilization.  
                                     cry from a 'orang asli' friend.
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