HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Brian.Mavrogeorge@p0.f30.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Brian Mavrogeorge)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Kassimatis TT
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:36:35 GMT
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You can be =sure= that the tiny-tafel from a Greek got into the nationwide
Tafel Matching System as soon as it was received. <grin>. Regards
from Mavrogeorge at ROOTS(SF!)...



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From: cowan@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu (P.L. Cowan)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Oxford student in 1700's
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:17:21 GMT
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I have an ancestor, James COLLINS, who was supposedly a university student
(at Oxford as I recall) in the early 1700's, when he was shanghaied to sea,
the result of which he jumped ship in America (Annapolis or Baltimore).
This has something of the ring of a family legend, but there is evidence
that he taught school, so it has some plausibility. The question is, is there
some way to search a list of students at a university from those days? 
Perhaps some kind reader in England could help.

- Paul
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:19:01 -0700
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Subject:      question
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i have a question for you all. would appreciate any
feedback on this
A friend of mine has research her side and found an
ancestor that was a spy. The only prob is she can find
no data on this.
 Can somone give us idea where to look for now.




Marley
Email MArleyt@ccit.arizona.edu
     Marley@hacks.arizona.edu
From: cmackay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Carol MacKay)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Elizabeth Beckmann(Cincinnati)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 11:12:12 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

A while back I noticed someone searching for information on Elizabeth 
Beckmann in Cincinnati, OHIO.  Turns out I also have an Elizabeth 
Beckmann in my research b. circa 1840's Sudmerzen, Germany d.circa 1900 
Cincinnati.  Please contact me if you would like to share info.

Searching:  Beckmann, Johan b. sept21, 1835s Sudmerzen,DEU d.Oct 1907 
              Cincinnati.
            Beckmann, August b.Oct 1868 Sudmerzen, d. Feb 1937 Cincinnati
            Beckman,  Ella b. Jan 1892 m.F.Simonsen d.Aug 1948 Denmark

Carol MacKay              cmackay@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: cmdarby@OSWEGO.OSWEGO.EDU (Christine M. Darby)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: On line census info in UK?
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:27:40 GMT
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On Wed, 18 Nov 1992, STENT, AARAN wrote:

> Are the UK's census records available on line???  If not maybe someone could
> help with any other information availbale over the net that may help to save
> paying researchers ....
>                                 Thanks
>                                 Aaran Stent
>                                 fox@lucifer.latrobe.edu.au

I'd like to hear on this one too.  Thanks
Chris Darby
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Reply-To:     Robert Thomin <durango@TSO.UC.EDU>
From:         Robert Thomin <durango@TSO.UC.EDU>
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Hello Rooters!
I need help once again.I had a list of most all the librarys around the
world  and in America but misplaced it and forgot where I got it.Has
anyone have an idea where I could get this list?
robert thomin
From: ctp@cs.utexas.edu (Clyde T. Poole)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Macintosh GEDCOM to TT program progress report
Date: 21 Nov 1992 11:07:10 -0600
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Austin
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For those of you that may be interested, the beta test of my Macintosh
GEDCOM to Tiny Tafel program is progressing well.  There are currently
20 people on the distribution list.  I really don't need any more.  If
you sent me mail but have not received at least one e-mail message
from me it probably means the "From:" address in your mail was not
replyable.

I do have one problem that maybe someone on the net can help me with.
To save time I copied a soundex subroutine out of some public domain
software that I had access to.  It turns out that the author did not
read the "real" soundex specifications before he wrote the subroutine
so it produces incorrect codes in some cases.  I used to have a copy
of the original Rand Corp. report that specifies soundex but can't
find it at the moment.  If someone can point me to a correct
definition of soundex coding, I would appreciate it.  Otherwise its a
trip down to the UT library and a few hours digging through
catalogues.

ctp
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From:         "Sharon L Palmateer" <ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Hutchinson
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Hi All!

     Friday I managed to grunt through the 1900 census records to locate
my great-grandfather - Winfield Hutchinson.  Until then, I never knew his
name but knew he lived in upstate NY, probably near the Canadian border.

     I'm looking for anyone that might be connected.

Winfield Hutchinson (b 7/1849)
     m/ Charlot or Sarah E. (b 7/1850)
     Children
          Son William (b 1869)
          Son James  (b ~1872)
          Son Embert I (b 4/1873)
              m/ Jennie (b 1880 Canada)
                   Daughter Christina (b 1904 Canada)
          Son Merrit (b 1875)
              m/ Kate (Fisher) (b 1875)
                   Son Jessie (b 1900)
                   Son James (b 1903)
                   Daughter Sadie (b 1906)
                   Son George (b 1908)
                   Daughter Glenora (b 1911)
                   Son Perry ? (b 1913)
                   Son Leroy (b 1914)
                   Daughter Cora (b 1915)
                   Son Carl (b 1917)
          Son Lorenzo (b 1876)
              m/ Cora (Corbin?) (b 1881)
                   Son Hobart (b 1908)
          Son John (b 3/1879)
          Son Charles (b 7/1882)
          Daughter Effie L. (b 6/30/1886 Hammond, NY)
              m/1 Ralph Bowhall
                   Daughter Beulah (b 1910-d ~1981)
                   Daughter Helen Beatrice (b 10/23/1911-d 7/31/1963)
              m/2 John Joseph Smith
                   Son John Winfield (b 1/13/1919-d 10/16/1979)
                   Son Embert Lorenzo (b 11/5/1921-d 11/29/1989)
                   Son Frank Leon (b 7/4/1923-d 11/1977)
                   Son Hobart Edward (b 11/20/1924-d 7/26/1960)
                   Daughter Leona Effie (b 11/18/1928-d 12/1977)
                   Daughter Sadie (b 8/11/1930-d 8/1984)
          Son Malvin (sp?) (b 2/1890)

      Winfield owned his farm in Parishville, NY where Embert and John were
employed as farm hands in 1900.  The 1900 census indicates Winfield's father
was born in England and they immigrated here in 1850.

      By 1920, Embert had bought a farm in Oswego County.  Lorenzo lived
on Howardsville Road in Albion.  Merrit supposedly lived in Lewis County but
I can't seem to locate it, yet.

      Because of the commonality of the rest of the first names, I wasn't
able to track them yet.  My grandmother was the only girl - Effie.

      Any contacts?  I know a cousin was working on the family tree around
1979.  Curious to know if he is on the net.  (Something tickles my brain
enough to say Carl's son but no guarantees and I don't know why I choose him.)

      As always, thanks in advance for any leads.

      TTFN
     Sharon     ASDSLP@ALBNYVM1.BITNET
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From:         "Allen R. Watts" <usr12138@TSO.UC.EDU>
Subject:      KY-BOONE COUNTY
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Robert;
The Eastern Kentucky ones that are now being worked on are Harlan Co., 1922 -25
finished, next index will take me up to about 1930.  Owsley Co., 1934 - 1952
finished.  Wolfe Co., 1885 up to 1896 finished, set index will take me up to
the 1900's.  The next county to be started will probably Bell county, then
Perry County.  Thanks Allen,
From: rlward1@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Robert Ward)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Grand Army of the Republic Records
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:47:55 GMT
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In article <1992Nov16.192559.23574@midway.uchicago.edu> cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.180648.19735@afterlife.ncsc.mil> rlward1@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Robert Ward) writes:
>>
>>   A friend has an ancestor who was a member of a particular post of the 
>>Grand Army of the Republic, in Minnesota.  This was an organization of Union 
>>Civil War veterans more or less analogous to the current American Legion.  
>>My friend knows the location and post number.  He would like to know if the 
>>records of such posts, and this one in particular, are still in existence, 
>>and if so, where they might be accessed.
>
>I'd be interested in knowing more about this as well.  There is a successor
>organization to the GAR, the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War, so
>I would guess that that group has inherited the post records.
>--Chuck
>
>-- 
>D'Angelo Law Library         "The dogmas of the quiet past are
>cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu      inadequate to the stormy present. . .
>uclcjt1@uchimvs1              We must disenthrall ourselves. . ."

Thanks, Chuck.  This is a good lead.  Any address or contact information 
for the Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War in Minnesota?

-- 
Researching:
 LAY (all USA), PRINCE (NJ/NB), CHAPMAN (CT/NY/NH), GIRAUD/GEROW (NY/NB),
 BARNES (CT/NY), YORK/YERXA/JURCKSE (NY/NJ/CT/NB), WHITNEY (MA/CT/VT),
 and many, many other New England lines. 
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From: mott@rp.CSIRO.AU (Martin Ott)
Subject: Mac Software / Germany
Organization: CSIRO Australia Telescope National Facility, Sydney
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:17:15 GMT

Hi rooters,
I just found this newsgroup and after browsing through some 100 articles
it seems to me a very nice and kind place....
My points:

Mac Software Compatibility:
I got a MacIntosh PB recently and just starting to learn and experiment
with the vast amount of software. One of my puzzles is the compatibility:
F.i. I found several programms (sorry, applications) and Hypercard stacks
dealing with genealogy. From what I saw and heard the PAF seems to be the 
most allround system and I saw anotherone mentioned: BK (?)
I dont want to purchase any packadge now (see below) and I fear that I will
waste time if I start entering data into one of the other programms (sorry,
applications) now, because I know nothing about compatibility ?
Once I have typed in all my data and would find the PAF (or whatever) to
suit me much better, do I have a chance of just transferring the data ?

Programm (sorry, application) - FAQ:
I am certainly not the first one to ask about a review and comparison
of the software that is available. Someone collected those 'reviews' ?

I am looking for features like to produce nice trees for gifts as my father's
silables (sp?) are in that age of 55 60 65 75 ....
And of course it should allow (unlimited) storage of additional information
per person or family.

Germany:
I am from Germany and will return early 1993. That's why I dont want 
to order big manuals now and carry them then...
I saw a lot of Germany related questions in the recent postings
and just thought I might be able to help (from when I am back).
Well, I am not a genealogy freak, but an address or so should be no problem.

regards
Martin





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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:54:47 EST
Reply-To:     Thomas Kruse <KRUSE@IPFWVM.BITNET>
From:         Thomas Kruse <KRUSE@IPFWVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Newberry Library

For Steve McNutt and the other who recently asked about the
Newberry Library:

      The Genealogy Department Allen County Public Library in Fort Wayne
Indiana got its start by copying most of the genealogy materials of
the Newberry Library while they were on loan here.  They don't offer
anything on interlibrary loan and Fort Wayne may not be any more
convenient for you than Chicago, but at least now you know that
there is an alternalte source for their collection.  I am ignorant
of the materials that collection included, however.

Tom Kruse
Indiana University - Purdue University, Fort Wayne, IN
kruse @ ipfwvm.bitnet
From: bob.stephan@nitelog.com (Bob Stephan) 
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Kewaunee, Wi.
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:21:00 GMT
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Reply-To: bob.stephan@nitelog.com (Bob Stephan) 

subj: Re: Kewaunee, Wi.

Steve McNutt,

 SM. Does anyone happen to know anything about the history of Kewaunee Co, Wi.?

Have you tried writing or calling their Chamber of Commerce?  Here is a
toll-free phone number for the Wisconsin Tourism Department -
1-800-432-8747. They can probably get you in touch with the Kewaunee CoC.

Might as well get it from the horses mouth, but if that doesn't work I have
relatives nearby that could pick up some literature.
                                 Bob
From: barrus@nosc.mil (Joseph D. Barrus)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: MacMunn or McMunn
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:04:41 GMT
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Anyone researching MacMunn or McMunn?  Anybody?

Joe (barrus@cod.nosc.mil)
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Bill Clinton
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:00:26 GMT
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Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Nov23.201546.26463@cs.wisc.edu> dko@cs.wisc.edu writes:
>Sometime in early English history (somewhere between 1100 and 1400 ...)
>one of Bill Clinton's ancestors, an English Lord, was part of a force
>that rebelled against the...English king, one of George Bush's ancestors.

1265, Simon de Montfort, King Henry III.  (I posted this to soc.roots not
ten days ago, but it's probably expired on most systems by now.)

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Ellen Keyne Seebacher \/             elle@midway.uchicago.edu
  Seeking the emigrant PERCEVAL (kin to Prime Minister Spencer Perceval,
  who d. 1811/2), who arrived in Lockport, Niagara County, NY, between
  1820 and 1870, and married a MacDUFF.
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From: zola@hardy.u.washington.edu (zolette)
Subject:  L.A. Babies (was Re: RFD/CFD: soc.adoption
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:23:14 GMT

           jasons@atlastele.com (Jason Smith) writes:
>
>So, here's mine:
>
>Jason D. Smith
>bname: Anthony Jonathan Hensen
>bdate: ~05-12-64 
>bloc:  Los Angeles/Long Beach, CA
>adate: ~XX-03-65
>aloc:  Claremont, CA
>

Hi Jason,
Since my birth info corresponds in date and location closely to yours,
I thought that I would tell you what info I had found in the Los Angeles 
area. (which is why the bandwidth here instead of e-mail).  There is a
place in Westminster (?) that used to exist (not sure if it is still there
or not) that has been helpful to me. I believe it was called Triadoption.
What I did was go to the county courthouse and get the court papers for 
my adoption without too much hassle.  They will do this, with the names all
crossed out in permanent black ink.  I took these papers to Triadoption and
they were able to tell me a little from the papers.  I am purposely not
going into more detail... other than to say that this is one avenue, email
me if you want to know (anyone). Also, I was adopted through the now defunct
Childrens' Home Society.  They have been absorbed by someone else, and I 
have gone to them several times just asking what they could give me of a 
non-identifying nature.  At one point the woman did happen to mention that
somewhere there is a big hefty file with all kinds of info on me (the usual
stuff and psych profiles, etc).  Not that I could see it or anything, but
it exists.  In California you can dig through microfiche for some nominal
charge.  A friend of mine who was looking for her son at the time I was 
looking for my bparents found him by going out to Riverside and spending about
20 hours digging though lists of names of birth records (public records).
I have tried calling hospitals, but they are less than helpful.  And we all
know that it is illegal to lie to get information over the phone... :}

There are various ways to track info in california, the powers that be would
not tell me which hospital that I was born in.  I still think that if I
went back to So. Cal for a week or two I could find my bparents.  But I don't
know what kind of havoc that would cause in their lives, which is not something
that needs to happen unecessarily.  I will happily give more details to people
searching, but if all the cards are on the table some avenues for seaches 
will be closed.  I don't want that to happen.  


Rebecca L. Lowell                             zola@u.washington.edu 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
bname: Joyce Loretta Edwards
bmother surname: Brandon
bfather surname: Edwards
bloc: Los Angeles, CA
aloc: Claremont, CA
adate: ~6-21-64
bdate: 5-30-64
bparents seniors in high school in 1964  
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Subject:      Pennoyer/Penoyer

NEW AT THIS:

Although have comprehensive PENNOYER/PENOYER family records
including several published family histories, can find no
connection for:

CHAUNCEY PENNOYER, b.ca1810 in CT.
  A blacksmith, first known in Candor, Tioga County, NY, then
  in 1840 and 1850 in Seneca Falls, Seneca County, NY.  Later in
  Lockport, Niagara County, NY, where he is thought buried.
  Married, ca 1833, Louisa Orilla Gates.  Adult children:
  Luzerne A., Sarah M., Mary A., Egbert, Charles, Alice,
  George B..
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:59:17 EDT
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Subject:      German-American History of the Ohio Valley

FOR THE FIRST TIME IN OVER A CENTURY A GERMAN AMERICAN HISTORY OF
THE OHIO VALLEY

A translation of the first German-American history of the Ohio
Valley in over a century has just been published.  `The German
Chronicle in the History of the Ohio Valley and its Capital City
Cincinnati in Particular', first published by Emil Klauprecht in
1864, has recently been released in an English translation by
Heritage Books, Inc. of Bowie, MD.

This comprehensive volume is packed with information about the
Ohio Valley and its contribution to the development of the United
States.  The beginning covers la Salle's exploration in 1682, the
rise of New France, the formation of the Iroquois Confederation,
the British sovereignty and the westward expansion of the United
States.

This book is very complete with names, dates, places, events and
battles.  Most of Klauprecht's original sourses were newspapers
and city directories, all of which are cited in a perioodicals
and publications index.  Additional indices cover family names,
place names/organizations and dissertations.

Though originally intended for German-American audiences of the
1860's, this translation contains a wealth of information for all
those interested in the geneology and history of the Ohio Valley.

Translated by Dale Lally of St. Lawrence University in Canton NY
and edited by Don Heinrich Tolzmann of the University of
Cincinnati, the book sells for $36 plus $3 s&h.

Ordering information:

German Chronicle in the History of the Ohio Valley and its
Capital City Cincinnati in Particular. Emil Klauprecht
(Cincinnati, 1864).  Translated by Dale V Lally Jr and edited by
Don Heinrich Tolzmann.  ISBN 1-55613-703-6.

Published by:  Heritage Books, Inc.
               1540-E Pointer Ridge Place
               Bowie MD 20716
               (301) 390 7709


Cordially

Dale V Lally Jr, Director
Carnegie Language Center
St. Lawrence University
Canton NY 13617
(315) 379 5857 VOICE
(315) 379 5989 FAX
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From:         Betty Vinski <BV5731@ETSUADMN.BITNET>
Subject:      Arkansas Census Index

Does anyone have the 1900 and 1910 indexes for Arkansas census
records?  Would you be willing to copy pages showing BLACKBURN
and HELMS/HELLUMS for me?  I would be happy to reimburse cost of
copies and postage.

Betty Vinski
BV5731@ETSUADMN
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From:         Steve Olsen <SRO@ARLAN.BYU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Looking for Families: Wilvert, S[ch]wartzlander
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          ROOTS-L Genealogy List <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

I don't recognize the names mentioned in your message, but I am
trying to find ancestors and living relatives in the same counties
you mentioned.

I'm looking for PORTER, BUCHANAN, and SLAUGHTERBACK, SCHLOTTERBECK,
or SCHLOTTENBECKER in Dauphin, Northumberland, and Cumberland
Counties in Pennsylvania about 1750-1825.

I'm also looking for SCHAAKE (SHOCKEY), GERLACH (GARLICK), and BORN
(BORNS or BURNS) families who were from Germany or Switzerland and
lived in Pennsylvania and Maryland about 1750-1800.

I have a copy of a booklet on the descendants of Ernest Born and
Ameila Gerlach who were in Huntingdon County, Pennsylvania, the
latter part of the 1700's, which I'd be happy to share with anyone
who would be interested.  (I'm not the author of the booklet, but the
author has granted permission for copying without restriction.)

Steve Olsen
sro@arlan.byu.edu
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