From: kknox@logdis1.hq.aflc.af.mil (Sgt Kevin P. Knox)
Newsgroups: rec.guns
Subject: Travelling help
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:43:58 GMT


#From:           jalden@coos.dartmouth.edu (Joshua M. Alden)
#Subject:        Travelling help
#Organization:   Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
#
#    I will, in the next week or so, be driving across the country.
#I'll be taking several firearms with me, including my carry gun. 
#	.........

This  isn't  much but I hope it helps.   I'm a class 01 dealer and this  is
what I found.

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TITLE 27,  CODE OF FEDERAL REGULATIONS,  PART 178: COMMERCE IN FIREARMS AND
AMMUNITION.

178.38  TRANSPORTATION OF FIREARMS

     Notwithstanding  any  other  provision  of any  law  or  any  rule  or
regulation of a State or any political subdivision thereof,  any person who
is not otherwise prohibited by this chapter from transporting, shipping, or
receiving a firearm shall be entitled to transport a firearm for any lawful
purpose  from  any place where such person may lawfully pessess  and  carry
such  a  firearm to any other place where such person mey lawfully  pessess
and  carry  such  firearm if,  during such transportation  the  firearm  is
unloaded,  and neither the farearm nor any ammunition being transported  is
readily accessible or is directly accessible from the passenger compartment
of such transporting vehicle:

     PROVIDED, That in the case of a vehicle without a compartment seperate
#from the driver's compartment the firearm or ammunition shall be  contained
in a locked container other than the glove compartment or console.

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I  have  a  wife and one small son.   We travel down to KY to  see  Grandma
often on weekends.   I love them very much.  Sooooo, if some thug at a rest
area  sticks us up one afternoon,  I guess I'll just run around  like  some
pansey  screaming  for  help  and wait for the  NUMEROUS  on  duty  highway
patrolmen  to  respond.   Yeah  right!   I pray to the Lord that  the  thug
survives the ordeal.   I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by  six!
The above federal code is federal law.  Local ordinances take
precedence (because they weren't challenged as being counter to our
Constitution to begin with!).

I  found the following information about the above states in the Department 
of  the Treasury,  BATF's State Laws and Published  Ordinances  - FIREARMS, 
19th edition (ATF P 5300.5 (12/89))

Nothing on New York as a state but too much on individual cities.  

Very  little on Penn.   Didn't see anything with regards to transporting  a 
firearm through the state.

Nothing  on  Ohio as a state,  but Dayton,  Cleveland,  and  Columbus  have 
ordinances with regards to "assault weapons", and high capacity magazines.

Hmmmm...  The  section on Indiana seems to written for dealers  only.   The 
laws  would  only  affect  a  dealer.    It  doesn't  seem  to  talk  about 
transporting through at all.   Sorry.   I'm sure this book doesn't have all 
the answers.

Illinois...  Yikes!    Chapter 38.  Criminal Law and Procedure, Article 24, 
Deadly Weapons.

24-1.  Unlawful use of weapons.
(a)   A  person  commits  the  offense of  unlawful  use  of  weapons  when 
knowingly:

**Note** I skipped 2 & 3, they wouldn't apply to firearms.

(4) Carries or possesses in any vehicle or concealed on or about his person 
except  when  on  his land or in his abode or fixed place of  business  any 
pistol, revolver, stun gun or taser or other firearm;

Couldn't find anything on Missouri about transporting a firearm through.

Kansas  had a very short section,  - less than one  page,  - nothing  about 
transporting a gun through.

Colorado follows suit with Kansas.

Nill on Utah - about a page.  Nothing about transporting a gun through.

Nevada had less than a page.  Nothing about transporting through.

Aha...  I  did  find  something  directly  answering  your  question  about 
California.

California State Law, Penal Code, Dangerous Weapons Control Law.

Section  12026.1 complements of Federal law (18 U.S.C 926A) and regulations 
(27 CFR 178.38) and is set out below.

     12026.1  (a)  Section  12025 shall not be construed  to  prohibit  any 
citizen  of  the United States over the age of 18 years who resides  or  is 
temporarily  within this state,  and who is not within the excepted classes 
prescribed  by  section 12021,  from transporting or carrying  any  pistol, 
revolver,  or  other  firearm capable of being concealed upon  the  person, 
providing that the following applies to the firearm:

     (1)   The  firearm is within a motor vehicle and it is locked  in  the 
vehicle's trunk or a locked container in the vehicle other than the utility 
or glove compartment.

     (2)   The  firearm is carried by the person directly to  or  from  any 
motor  vehicle for any lawful purpose and,  wile carrying the firearm,  the 
firearm is contained within a locked container.

          (b)  The provisions of this section do not prohibit or limit  the 
otherwise  lawful carrying or transportation of any  pistol,  revolver,  or 
other firearm capable of being concealed upon the person in accordance with 
this chapter.

          (c)  As used in this section,  "locked container" means a  secure 
container which is enclosed and locked by a padlock,  key lock, combination 
lock, or similar locking device.


**  I personally hope the NRA and or the Libertarian party take control  of 
California in the very near future (my opinion only).


Anyway,  if  you have any doubt at all,  call the attorney general's of the 
state in question.

Once again, I hope this info helped.