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From: comeau@csanta.attmail.com (Greg Comeau)
Subject: Re: C++ virtuals (Was: How easy is it to disassemble MS-DOS programs?
Originator: comeau@well.sf.ca.us
Reply-To: comeau@csanta.attmail.com (Greg Comeau)
Organization: Comeau Computing
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:51:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.161240.15119@beaver.cs.washington.edu> wille@june.cs.washington.edu (Robert Wille) writes:
>I stand corrected.  You can use the :: operator to specify which 
>virtual function you want.  However, nearly all references to a 
>virtual function are through data space.

Oh sure.  One uses virtual functions because of the expectations
(through usage!) that they will be called virtually.  All I was
saying is that they need not be called virtually (the :: doesn't
dictate that though, the object that you call it through does).

- Greg
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From: robertk@taoami.lerctr.org (Robert Kesterson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: iff.library?
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:08:28 GMT
Organization: Not an Organization
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <92203.173919DEB110@psuvm.psu.edu> Doug "Bish" Bischoff EMT-MAST <DEB110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>      Is there a library that will allow C programs to easily load and display
> IFF files?  If so, please direct me to it if it didn't come with the machine!
>
> -Bish

If you have 2.0, the iffparse.library that comes with it will do it.  If not, there
is a one called (oddly enough) iff.library in the PD/FD.  Either library will also
work with WB 1.3, though of course you'd need a WB license to distribute iffparse.
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From: mpue2@syma.sussex.ac.uk (James E. Talbut)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs vs. the world . . . (was Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?)
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:12:45 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex, five miles away from Brighton

From article <ACHOW.92Jul23183544@cad093.scdt.intel.com>, by achow@cad093.scdt.intel.com (Abel Chow ~):
> Oh, boy.  An GNU Emacs vs. the world thread . . .
I cut all the rest out 'cos it's not relevant.

This was mailed but it didn't get through, maybe ACHOW or someone else
here can answer my questions:

O.K. then, since you seem to kow what you're talking about here's some
question for you about the one TRUE editor:

1) How do I dump it?
2) How do I get it to not EVER do backups?
3) How do I get it to NEVER do autosave?

Please help me as I really like what emacs can do but I get severely
annoyed at any program that makes files without telling me about it!


Another question:
When I exit emacs it tries to write something to my SYS: what? and why?

Thanks for any help.

	J.T.


-- 
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	but it's better to be thoroughly sure.  -  Czech proverb

James Talbut            mpue2@syma.susx.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
Date: 20 Jul 92 22:26:23 EST
Newsgroups: amiga.prog,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Signal Semaphores


  I'm wondering if anyone has done extensive work with SignalSemaphores under
2.04 (V37) that could let me know what I'm doing wrong with my use of them.
I just put a 'Forbid()/Permit()' pair around all the things
that 'should' have been protected by an ObtainSemaphore/ReleaseSemaphore
pair in some multi-threaded code, and a large number of bugs just 'went away'.   
Since I'd rather that ALL tasks didn't wait, and only those wanting access 
to these structures, I'd rather get things working.

  The program in question runs many different processes, all of which share
the same global variables.  When accessing any of the structures, I had put
semaphore arbitration around the calls. Here's some 'example' code from what
I'm doing:

typedef struct config_struct {
  struct slave_struct mainSlave;
  /* Slaves */
  struct SignalSemaphore listLock;

....

  if((myconfig=AllocMem(sizeof(config),MEMF_CLEAR))) {

....

    InitSemaphore(&myconfig->listLock);

....

int CountSlaves()
{
  slave *aslave;
  int i;

  i=0;

  ObtainSemaphore(&myconfig->listLock);
  Forbid();
  FOREACH_LIST_UNSAFE(&myconfig->slaves,aslave)
    if(aslave!=myconfig) i++;
  END_LIST_UNSAFE;
  Permit();
  ReleaseSemaphore(&myconfig->listLock);
  return(i);
}



  All other calls are exactly the same as the Semaphore calles above.
As mentioned, without the Forbid()/Permit() pair around the calls, everything
crashes very quickly.  P.S. Yes, the InitSemaphore happens very soon after
the memory is allocated, and long before any other semaphore operations are
called.

  Thanks for any help.  The net has always been great for pointing out my
stupid errors so I can quickly move on to getting some real work done! ;-)

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From: rcbi110@muvms3.bitnet (R. ALAN MONROE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Is there prog to convert Mac KCHR -> Ami Keymap??
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:34:56 GMT
Organization: Marshall University


The subject says it all.  I want to know if it is possible (I'm pretty sure it
is) and if there is a program that can convert a macintosh KCHR resource into
an Amiga standard keymap file...

I have converted some Arabic fonts from the mac, for use in progs like
Ecellence, etc. but they are impossible to type in without a new keymap.  I
know that a new keymap won't magically connect the arabic letters, but it will
be better than nothing...

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From: kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: gcc and mathieeesingbas.library
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:46:55 GMT
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: earl@rtsg.mot.com's message of 28 Jul 92 22:55:40 GMT

>>>>> On 28 Jul 92 22:55:40 GMT, earl@rtsg.mot.com (Brent R. Earl) said:
Brent> Nntp-Posting-Host: khaki14

Brent> I have been trying to use gcc, but can't run it since it is
Brent> looking for mathieeesingbas.library.  Where do I find this??

It should be in your 2.04 ROMs.

Brent> Any suggestions?  (Someone that would like to uuencode and mail
Brent> it to me?).

Upgrade?
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It was a JOKE!!  Get it??  I was receiving messages
 from DAVID LETTERMAN!!  YOW!!
From: fgd3@nifty.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe, III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re:  2.04 Includes
Distribution: world
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:11:41 EDT
Organization: Fabbian G. Dufoe, III

In article <1992Jul23.144100.29361@arcetri.astro.it> tribioli@arcetri.astro.it (Francesco Tribioli) writes:
>In article <33245@cbmvax.commodore.com>, mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz) writes:
>|> The cost is very little ($100 flat fee) and the compiler vendor pays
>|> this.  The vendor can then sell as many as he wishes without paying us
>|> any more.  A user can also buy them from CATS (215-431-9180) as part
>|> of the Native Developers Kit.  We try our best to get the information

   Actually, you have to buy them from Department C at Commodore if you
aren't a registered developer.  That's a little confusing, since most of us
don't know a lot about Commodore's internal organization.

>|> out there (the NDK is only $20 and includes more than just the includes)
>|> but we do not wish to give up our rights on the files.
>
>$100 is not so little fee for a single user. It's a good fee for a compiler
>vendor but not for a single user. Then I don't want to buy a new compiler
>every time you change the operating system. Also is quite impossible to have a
>decent assistance here in Europe from C= (I don't know in US, is it better?)
>and so get this damned header files.

   PAY ATTENTION, Francesco!  The $100 fee permits vendors to redistribute
the include files with their package.  It isn't the single user fee.  If
you, as a single user, want the include files you can buy the Native
Developers Kit for just $20.  For that $20 you get the include files, the
Autodocs (documentation for all the functions in all the Amiga libraries),
and some development and testing tools.  It's a good deal.  

--Fabbian G. Dufoe, III
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.programmer:11621 comp.sys.amiga.misc:11861
From: hjalmar@cbmswe.se.so.commodore.com (Peter Hjalmarsson Sweden)
Newsgroups: adsp.misc,adsp.cats,comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Right Answers Group adress...?
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:47:09 GMT
Followup-To: adsp.misc,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Commodore Sweden

Does anyone know if Right Answers Group is contactable via usenet?

If so, what is their address?

I need to discuss possible licensing agreement of the Director 2
player.

E-mail answers preferred.

Thanks in advance/
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Amiga Support Engineer >-----------------------------------   \\//
Commodore Sweden      /  ...speaking for myself, not Commodore \/
From: Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: 1Mb stack overflow in Precognition 1.0
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 15:28:00 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

>
>	Does anyone else use a fine piece of software called "Precognition" ?
>It's for creation of 3D gadgets, listeditors and windows. In my opinion
>the code generated and the look of the application is far beyond PowerSource
>GadToolsBox.
>	I am though, having some problems. The program sometimes crash with
>a "Stack overflow" even when I have the stack set to 1Mb (!). No further
>error message is given and after that the program freezes but leaves the
>screen and windows open. Is there a fix for this?

That's because version 1.0 is _really_ buggy!  (Trust me, I wrote it.
I know!)  Its full of enforcer hits.  (It works great on my own machine,
so until I had the enforcer, I had no way of knowing how bad it was.)

I always meant to release an updated, bug-fixed version, but I've
never found the time.  (Don't you hate it when work gets in the way
of free-time programming?)

Sorry.

Lee   Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com
From: mickh@imart.adsp.sub.org (Michael-Wolfgang Hohmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:11:57 GMT
 <1992Jul22.182331.6507@beaver.cs.washington.edu>
Reply-To: mickh@imart.adsp.sub.org
Organization: ImageArts
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Jul22.182331.6507@beaver.cs.washington.edu>, Dylan McNamee writes:

-> I have registered QED, and have decided against TurboText for one main
-> reason--TurboText doesn't support the Amiga keymap mechanism!  I use
-> a dvorak keyboard, (very happily I might add) and TurboText is hard-coded
-> with qwerty.  Unacceptable in a program, and evidence that the programmer
-> isn't "playing by the rules", which is generally important in an editor.

  I think you never took an more close look at TTX, because
    1) I can use any system-keyboard in TTX with no problems
    2) You can change _ANY_ Key to _ANY_ Value in the Definitions-File


   == Mick ==

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From: forgeas@swinjm.UUCP (Jean-Michel Forgeas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Putting menus where they belong - on the window - under 2.0
Date: 25 Jul 92 11:18:09 GMT
Reply-To: cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmfra!swinjm!forgeas (Jean-Michel Forgeas)
Distribution: comp
Organization: The Software Winery
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 alpha rel2

In article <1435@lysator.liu.se>, H}kan Andersson writes:

> Is there a known, existing, hack to place menus where they belong, i.e. on
> the window titlebar instead of on the &%%&%&% screen?

Don't know, but if you think that popup menus can do your job
there is code for them in Fish disk #96, from Derek Zahn.
If you want to transform all Intuition meno into popups, there
is PopUpMemu from Martin Adrian in Fish disk #667.

    Jean-Michel
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From: mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer)
Subject: Re: SAS/C 5.10b fopen(...,"w+") bug?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Distribution: comp
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga Yarn 2.0, 1992/06/25 01:41:36
Keywords: 
Summary: 
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:51:33 PST
Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica

In <1992Jul27.012709.11726@wam.umd.edu>, walrus@wam.umd.edu (Udo K Schuermann) wrote:
> In article <1992Jul26.190553.26493@wam.umd.edu> I wrote:
> >	struct FILE *myFile;
> >	myFile = fopen("t:test","w+");
> >
> >This clears out the file if it contains any information instead of preserving
> >existing information!  The documentation on page L72-L73 describes the use of
> >the "w+" mode as 1) creating the file if it doesn't exist yet, 2) preserving
> >existing contents (WHICH IT DOESN'T!), 3) providing r/w access to the file.
> 
> Well, this went quickly!  Looks like it IS a bug.  The following code is a
> workaround which seems to provide equivalent file access:
> 
>      FILE *myFile;
> 
>      if( (myFile = fopen("test.file","a+") ) {
>        fclose( myFile );
>        myFile = fopen("test.file","r+");
>      }
> 
> Thanks to Trent Gray-Donald <tagraydo@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> for
> responding so quickly and confirming the problem was not my own stupidity.

This could be a bug I found earlier, in when someone else asked about
it. The "a" modes fail if the first thing you do is "fputs" instead of
an "fprintf". I suspect the old portable IO calls aren't correctly
checking the mode on the file, or some such. Then again, "a+" could
behave differently than "a".

	<mike
From: dylan@cs.washington.edu (Dylan McNamee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?  (dvorak)
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:58:28 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle


I just checked again--I was wrong, those that claimed that TurboText
runs correctly with the dvorak keyboard were correct--it is a keymap
and 2.0 friendly application (but it doesn't let you open its windows
on a public screen, that I can tell...)

I see OXXI's address in the doc's, but how much is this program?

thanks, and mea culpa...( which "Super" editor did I see that ignores keymaps?)
dylan
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: ian@ug.cs.dal.ca (Ian Littlewood)
Subject: Re: WorkBench 2.04 - bug, or feature?
Keywords: AmigaDOS 2.04
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: dal
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:13:27 GMT

In <1992Jul21.081047.677@leela.cs.orst.edu> ridgwad@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Dean Ridgway) writes:

>While working on my latest computer club disk (now in a new Workbench 2.04
>format) I noticed that when you resize or reposition a drawer's window and
>try to save that information back into the .INFO file that only the resizing
>information is saved.  The system still opens the window where ever it feels
>like it (even on cold boot).  If I want to fix the position that the window
>opens at, I have to drop back to 1.3.2, its...IRRITATING!

>Does anyone know if this is a bug, or if the INFORMATION pull down menu item
>was deliberately rewritten not to save positional information.  I have looked
>through the _Using_the_System_Software_ book under the INFORMATION pull down
>menu and it does not say you have to do anything different to save the
>position of a window.  If this is mentioned anywhere in the System Software
>book please give me a page number, or other reference.

>If this is a known bug, does anyone know if Commodore knows about it?

>My stats: KickStart 37.175, Workbench 37.67 .

>Dean Ridgway | FidoNet 1:357/1.103 | InterNet ridgwad@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
>	     | CIS 73225,512       |          ridgwad@atlantis.cs.orst.edu


Try using the WINDOW menu bar and take a look at the SNAPSHOT option; it
produces a submenu with two options; Window & All. if you want to snapshot only
the window select WINDOW. If you want to snapshot the Window, all icons, and
the current view-type then select ALL. Both these options save both the window
size AND the window position.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: WB2.04 distribution solution
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:47:33 PST
 <davis.40.0@chem.canterbury.ac.nz> <1992Jul23.013620.6738@tronsbox.xei.com>
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Jul23.013620.6738@tronsbox.xei.com> by bleys@tronsbox.xei.com (Bill Cavanaugh):
> In article <davis.40.0@chem.canterbury.ac.nz> davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz (John Davis) writes:
> >In article <1992Jul20.224423.19195@tronsbox.xei.com> bleys@tronsbox.xei.com (Bill Cavanaugh) writes:

> >>Commodore uses BIX for that purpose.  As those people in the
> >>non-academic community know, it's a lot easier to get access to BIX
> >>than it is to a site that lets you ftp!<chuckle>

> >ah, it's so nice to see americentrism is still alive and well!! Does anyone
> >in american have any idea of what a hassle (and huge expense) it is to access

> FYI, a couple of years back when I was on BIX, one of the most
> prolific writers of text and software there was Sebastiano Vigna, who
> was (through some method apparently not available in New Zealand)
> connecting from Milan, Italy.

    BIX has established itself in Europe, or had back when I used to
    read BYTE. It hasn't here.

    Here, it is MUCH easier to get access to ftp than it is to get
    access to BIX. The local city council provides ftp services for
    free in Wellington.

    Also, from a freedom/utility point of view, Usenet is much more
    preferable to either BIX or Compuserve, BECAUSE it isn't a
    commercial thing, has data distributed all over the place, has
    mail servers, has AmigaUUCP for its offline operation, etc.

> bill
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: meshkin@sol.cs.wmich.edu (The Hidden)
Subject: Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:16:13 GMT

achow@cad093.scdt.intel.com (Abel Chow ~) writes:

>In article <147pqfINNoij@agate.berkeley.edu> jma@ocf.berkeley.edu (James M. Alexander) writes:

>   I know I'm going to get a lot of wildly varying opinions here, but
<grin>
>   opinions are what I want. I'd like to know what editor people use
>   to program in C and why. I myself currently am using Elvis (a clone

I'm using another vi port, which came with the old RCS distribution (not the
2.0 only one).  I believe it had two, one of which was Stevie... I'm using
the other one.  The main good point?  FAST!  It works with just about any
size of CLI window and takes almost no time to page through big files.

>There's the Amiga version of GNU Emacs which does (almost) everything

I agree!  It does everything but write the code for you, BUT it is very
slow to start!  I downloaded that one, unpacked it, then spend the next
minute staring in horror as it loaded gobs of data from my HD before giving
me a nice standard emacs screen.  If you never make mistakes and have to
reboot your machine (thanks CBM, for your wonderful exception handler!)
it's great, but I usually use either vi, or MG if I want to be emacsy.

>   ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Abel
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From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs vs. the world . . . (was Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?)
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:25:53 PST
Organization: BBS

> Wanna get really grossed out? I still use ed and ex regularly. I
> can make a one-line change to a file faster than most visual
> editors can repaint the screen (or half, if you're using
> emacsclient). People who've never used line editors just can't
> understand how I can work "blind". But that's the fastest way. And
> it also means I don't have any trouble doing batch edits with sed
> and/or ed.
 
I hope your excuse for using line editors is that you're working on
an ascii terminal with a limited baud rate?  No decent editor running
locally should be slow enough in repainting the screen to justify the
use of a line editor.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: prado@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Louis A. Prado)
Subject: Amiga Address Map
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:39:44 GMT

Can someone provide a memory map of the Amiga which illustrates the address
space of the custom chips, CIA's etc.

Thanx in advance.

--
- Lou Prado	EE  Undergrad.     Arizona State Univ.
From: fgd3@nifty.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe, III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re:   2.04 Includes
Distribution: world
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:31:47 EDT
Organization: Fabbian G. Dufoe, III

In article <1992Jul27.105949.1143@arcetri.astro.it> tribioli@arcetri.astro.it (Francesco Tribioli) writes:
>$100 one time in three years). The REAL problem is: "I CANNOT have a reasonable 
>assistance from C= in my country, so I cannot easily obtain this 2.04 includes".
>The only way is to buy a new compiler with the new includes. So if C= is not 

   Have you tried writing to Hirsch and Wolf?

Hirsch & Wolf oHG
Attn: Hans-Helmut Hirsch
Mittelstr. 33
5450 Neuwied 1
Germany

Fax: ++49-2631-23878
Tel: ++49-2631-24485

UUCP: cbmger!carla!hhhirsch

   You can buy the 2.04 include files from them.  Use the support Commodore
provides for you and quit complaining because everything isn't delivered
free to your doorstep.

--Fabbian G. Dufoe, III
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   St. Petersburg, Florida  33705 | internet: fgd3%nifty@tct.com
   813-823-2350                   | uucp:     ...tct!deep6!nifty!fgd3