HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: yeshwant@gummo.cse.ogi.edu (Yeshwant K Muthusamy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Request for more VIETNAMESE voices!
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:27:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.36371
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Computer Science & Engineering


My earlier postings to this newsgroup requesting voices were a major 
success. We received a total of 128 calls in VIETNAMESE out of which 
96 were evaluated to be usable (i.e. calls that were not hangups).
A BIG THANK YOU to all of you who graciously helped out by calling 
and recording their voices!

In the second phase of our database collection, we are concentrating
on those languages that have less than 100 USABLE calls. We still need
a few VIETNAMESE voices. So if you have not called before, PLEASE DO!

Yeshwant

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                      WE NEED YOUR VOICE!!
                              at
         The Center for Spoken Language Understanding
                   Oregon Graduate Institute


Are you a NATIVE speaker of Vietnamese?

If so, we need your help in building a multi-language database of
speech recorded over the TELEPHONE. This database is to be used for
my PhD thesis research on automatic language identification.

We have set up a TOLL-FREE line (for the US and Canada) that is open 
round-the-clock:

PLEASE CALL 1-800-441-1077

There is also a local area number for the Portland (Oregon)
metropolitan area and for international sites where the toll-free
number does not work:

PLEASE CALL (503) 690-1012

You will need a touch-tone phone for this call. After a short greeting
in English, a pre-recorded message in VIETNAMESE will guide you through a 
recording session. Please respond to the prompts in VIETNAMESE only.
The entire call will take about 5 minutes. The speech that you provide
will be used for research purposes only.

**ALL CALLERS REMAIN ANONYMOUS**. This research is not being funded by 
any agency or company.

If you have any questions or comments, any problems with the call, or 
would just like more information about this project, call Yeshwant 
Muthusamy at (503) 690-1431.

Please pass on this message to others at your site who do not have net
access. Feel free to forward this message to all the relevant mailing 
lists and local newsgroups in your area.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP!


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Yeshwant Muthusamy                               Internet: yeshwant@cse.ogi.edu
Center for Spoken Language Understanding	  
Oregon Graduate Institute of Science and Technology
19600 NW Von Neumann Drive			 
Beaverton, OR 97006-1999			 Vmail: (503) 690-1431
USA
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From: klsn@eb5ts3.EBay.Sun.COM (Kiet Van Luu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [Misc.] Nha('n Tin.!!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:04:50 GMT
Reply-To: klsn@eb5ts3.EBay.Sun.COM (Kiet Van Luu)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts3.ebay.sun.com

From: klsn@eb5ts3.EBay.Sun.COM (Kiet Van Luu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [Misc.] Nha('n Tin.!!!
Expires: 
Reply-To: klsn@eb5ts3.EBay.Sun.COM (Kiet Van Luu)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Keywords: 

 Hello! Ca'c anh chi. netters.
 K muo^'n tim` 2 ngu*o*i` ba.n cu~, chun'g to^i
 dda~ ma^'t lie^n la.c vo*'i nhau tu*` na(m 1987,
 te^n 2 ngu*o*i` la` Lu*u* My~ Lan va` DDa(.ng
 Thi, tru*o*'c na(m 1987 Lan so^n'g o*? S.F ,CA.
 va` Thi thi` so^n'g o*? N.J.Ne^u' ca'c anh chi.
 bie^'t 2 ngu*o*i` ba.n ddo', xin lam` o*n nha('n
 tin giu`m .Ca?m o*n ta^'t ca? ca'c anh chi.
 netters.

 Lie^n la.c : klsn@eb5ts3.EBay.Sun.COM
 hoa(.c (408) 276-1102

 Tha^n chao`.
 kvl

From: klsn@eb5ts3.EBay.Sun.COM (Kiet Van Luu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [Misc.] Nha('n Tin.!!!
Expires: 
Reply-To: klsn@eb5ts3.EBay.Sun.COM (Kiet Van Luu)
Followup-To: 
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Keywords: 

 Hello! Ca'c anh chi. netters.
  K muo^'n tim` 2 ngu*o*i` ba.n cu~, chun'g to^i
   dda~ ma^'t lie^n la.c vo*'i nhau tu*` na(m
   1987,
    te^n 2 ngu*o*i` la` Lu*u* My~ Lan va` DDa(.ng
     Thi, tru*o*'c na(m 1987 Lan so^n'g o*? S.F
     ,CA.
      va` Thi thi` so^n'g o*? N.J.Ne^u' ca'c anh
      chi.
       bie^'t 2 ngu*o*i` ba.n ddo', xin lam` o*n
       nha('n
	tin giu`m .Ca?m o*n ta^'t ca? ca'c anh
	chi.
	 netters.

	  Lie^n la.c : klsn@eb5ts3.EBay.Sun.COM
	   hoa(.c (408) 276-1102

	    Tha^n chao`.
	     kv:
	     
	     
	    :
	    l
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: vinsight@netcom.com (Chan T. Vninsight)
Subject: Hanoi's Openness Surprises Japaneese Star
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: vinsight@netcom.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 07:41:33 GMT


HANOI'S OPENNESS SURPRISES JAPANESE STAR
(Vietnam Insight March 1992)

Bursting into tears at Narita airport, 24 year old Honda Minako, a
beautiful young rising star of Japan, who had just returned from Vietnam
recalled: "I never suspected it! I was terrified, thought I couldn't
come back home..."

Chosen to be the main actress for the popular musical drama "Miss
Saigon," Miss Minako visited Vietnam on Feb. 5 in a related fact-finding
trip for the show. Accompanying her was a camera crew of 8. After less
than three days in Saigon, the entire group was arrested by Vietnamese
police who ruthlessly entered their hotel rooms. One hundred fifty rolls
of film were confiscated. The charges were astonishing: they had taken
too many pictures of areas known for prostitution, which could be
translated as an act of ill-intention to humiliate the Socialist
Republic of Vietnam according to the Hanoi authorities.

Eight people were later released with one photographer still detained
for stubbornly refusing to turn over the negatives. It came to light
later that one of the Vietnamese secret agent had posed as a
photographer in disguise to spy on the crew.

Still in tears, Miss Honda Minako related her terrifying experience with
the Vietnamese secret police, calling the entire episode "a bitter
experience with communist Vietnam." She concluded "The Vietnamese
government must respect people's rights and freedom in order to belong
to the civilized world."

-- 
Vietnam Insight (vinsight@netcom.com)
Chan Tran, editor
From: KIMYEN@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: re:Tra(m ho.
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:08:49 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Tra(m ho. theo to^i chi? la` truye^`n thuye^'t nhu" Ba` A^u co" sanh tra(m
tru"'ng ma` tho^i,do ddo' ca'c ho. ma` ca'c ba.n ne^u le^n chi? la` ho. cu?a
ngu"o"`i Trung Hoa ddu"o".c di.ch sang tie^'ng Vie^.t Nam .Cu~ng nhu" Ba` A^u
Co" la`m sao dde? ra tru"'ng ddu"o".c,Hay nguo^`n go^'c ngu"o"`i Vie^.t la`
ca' hay ru`a?
From: VU@GODZILLA.SCH.Symbolics.COM (Vu Ngo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: DALENA's Fans
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:57:55 GMT
Reply-To: VU@GODZILLA.SCH.Symbolics.COM
Organization: N/A
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu


    Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 17:46 EDT
    From: tranq@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Quang Tran)

	    Hello SCV-netters,

    Does anyone on the net know anything about Dalena's personal history ? 

Don't want to burst your bubbles :-), but IMHO Dalena is just a trendy singer.
After the novelty wears off, you'll grow tired of it quickly.  Same thing
happened to me on the duo Co^ng Tha`nh va` Lynn.

    Like where is she from, who did she learn to speak and to sing in Vietnamese
    with, and how did she get involve with our music ?

She learns our music the old-fashioned way, the way our VN singer used to learn
American songs.  They listened to the record, and tried to imitate the words
(nha'i gio.ng).  That's why Delena can sing Chinese, Japanese, and French songs
with little knowlegde of the language.  Nothing special, even I can do it if 
I have a decent voice :-).  But, it's a great accomplishment on Delena's part, 
nevertheless. 

    By the way, try Dalena's CD from Hai Au Studio:

	    Oh !! My Sweet Love	HaiAu 25
	    Just For YOU		HaiAu 28
	    Love Songs 2		HaiAu 27

    She sang with so much feelings and with her true expression into the songs.

I doubt if she understood half the words in the song :-), so can't possibly agree
with you here.  Her facial expression always looks to me like her good friend had
died or sth :-)).
  
    Our VNese singer can not express that well, not even half of what she has done
    with our own music (very small number can, otherwise, too trashy, cheapy acts).

On the contrary, I think our VNese singer performed with more feelings.  They do
not need the exaggerated movements or the acting facial expressions.  A look, a
simple gesture to me that's VNese, and that's enough.  To me, it's all in the
emotion conveyed through the singing, and pardon the commercial, you can't beat
the real thing i.e only a true VNese singer can do it.  Otherwise, like you said,
it's trashy immitations and cheapy actings :-).  Well, one can go all out and 
imitate Mick Jagger..... :-) .

    I would be appreciate any information about her.   Please, post on the net or
    email to my address.
	    Email:	tranq@uc.edu

    Thanx !!!!

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
    D I S C L A I M E R :
      Sex is Hereditary.  If your parents don't have it, neither will you !!

I am so glad you have this disclaimer section.  I don't mean to poke fun at
you personally, no way!.  Just another netter opinion, honest! :-)

    -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

		     U N E M P L O Y M E N T   D E P A R T M E N T 

			    G O ,  B E A R C A T  , G O . . . .

			       UNIVERSITY OF CINCINNATI

				    *****()*****


Go where???.  Duke already got it!


-- Vu~
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: lapato@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lap Thai Nguyen)
Subject: [MISC]
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: lapato@wpi.WPI.EDU
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 16:56:51 GMT

	Ngoa`i ddo+`i, ba.n co' the^? la` mo^.t nha^n ta`i
nhu+ng trong ti`nh ye^u thi` ba.n chi? la` mo^.t ke? ta^`m thu+o+`ng!

					lapato
hi`hi`
ltn
---love to live ...not live to love---
From: thanh@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au (Hung Thanh Huynh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Tie^'p theo Do^' Vui
Summary: TIE^'P THEO BA.N PETER HO
Keywords: VUA VA` "LONG..."
Date: 17 Apr 92 14:27:07 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

Tie^'p theo ba.n Peter Ho^` posted truo'c, no'i ve^`
Vua. 
A'o Vua go.i la` LONG BA`O.
......
......
Ba^y gio+` to^i co' va`i ca^u do^' ve^` Vua ma`  Uye^n Phuong,
cha'u to^i mo'i tu+` VN sang do^' to^i.
Vua di cuo^'c da^'t thi` go.i la` LONG gi`?
Vua di nha?y da^`m thi` go.i la`  LONG gi`?
From: gt0010c@prism.gatech.edu (M.T. Nguyen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [poem] tie^'ng dda`n khuya ...
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:35:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr7.193534.28386
Reply-To: gt0010c@prism.gatech.edu
Organization: N/A
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu


Hi ...

Mo*'i ba('t dda^`u khoa' ho.c cho ne^n mt cho phe'p mt ddu*o*.c
mo* mo^.ng la`m tho* .... dde^'n vo*'i ca'c anh chi. ca'c ba.n ba`i
tho* na`y nhe', con nho? d.ao na`y nghe^` tho* ho*i .......... lu.t
ro^`i ... :-(( ddu*`ng che^ ddo', ne^'u kho^ng o*? GA se~ co' lu.t
to ... -- vi` con nho? nhe` :-))


Tie^'ng dda`n khuya

DDe^m tra(ng thanh va('ng da.o dda`n
Da'ng ai ma?nh kha?nh vo*'i la`n to'c ma^y
Nhu* la` da'ng ngo.c nga^'t nga^y
A^m thanh xao xuye^'n cha^'t dda^`y kho^ng gian ...
A'nh tra(ng la^'p la'nh tra?i tra`n
Phi'm nga` lay ddo^.ng muo^n va`n to* vu*o*ng
Chopin da. khu'c dde^m tru*o*`ng  ( Noctures - da. khu'c ve^` dde^m )
Bethoven khu'c moonlight mo* ma`ng ...
"Thie^n Nga" da.o bu*o*'c lang thang ( Ho^` Thie^n Nga )            
Love story dda~ ngo*~ nga`ng ....gio' dde^m ...
Say su*a gia^'c mo^.ng e^m dde^`m
Ngu*o*`i dda`n vo*'i nha.c tay me^`m cha.y nhanh ...
Nhu*ng kia` ma('t bie^'c long lanh 
To'c da`i u? ru? mo?nh manh da'ng hi`nh ??
Canh khuya thanh va('ng mo^.t mi`nh
Nho*' ai, ai nho*' ... , o*i ti`nh vu*o*ng to* ...

04-07-92

MT

P.S. to anh TX, U*`a, anh cu*' la^y' nick la` potato ddi :-) nhu*ng
ma` ba.n lapato co' tha^.t ma` :-)) , to lapato, to me, love is still
a great game :-)) we should enjoy fishing and being fished :-))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: gt0010c@prism.gatech.edu ( Marianne T. Nguyen )
Subject: [poem] co' nhu*~ng lu'c III
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: gt0010c@prism.gatech.edu
Organization: N/A
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:24:00 GMT


for all the scv netters !!!! :-)

Enjoy !!!!

>       CO' NHU+~NG LU'C  ( II )     

>Anh co' bie^'t ...

>Co' nhu*~ng lu'c gio' u hoa` ve vuo^'t
>Mo*n man hie^`n tre^n da lu.a nhung e^m
>Nhu*ng co' lu'c gio' nhe nanh muo^'n nuo^'t
>Pha' tan hoang luo^n cuo^.c so^'ng e^m dde^`m ...

>Co' nhu*~ng lu'c na^ng em nhu* hoa la'  
>Thoa'ng ddau buo^`n anh dda~ vo^.i ho?i han
>Nhu*ng co' lu'c anh nhu* ngu*o*`i xa la.
>Ngo^`i ca.nh em ma` ho^`n la.c lang thang ...

>Co' nhu*~ng lu'c anh nghe em tho? the?
>Mi?m cu*o*`i ra(`ng anh chi? co' em tho^i
>Nhu*ng co' lu'c quay cuo^`ng trong nha.c tre?
>Trong lo`ng anh, tha^`n tu*o*.ng vo^.i ddo^?i ngo^i ...
	
>Co' nhu*~ng lu'c anh de^~ thu*o*ng de^~ me^'n
>Em nho~ng nhe~o ... nhu*ng ... anh cu~ng ra'ng chi`u
>Nhu*ng co' lu'c hi`nh nhu* kho^ng vo'i dde^'n
>Nhu*~ng gi` dda^u, anh co^' giu*~ cha('c chiu ...
	
>Co' nhu*~ng lu'c anh hie^`n la`nh cha^n tha^.t
>Nhu*~ng a^n ca^`n em nghi~ ... dde^'n tu*` tim
>Nhu*ng co' lu'c lo`ng anh sa^u cha^'t nga^'t
>Ro^'i quanh co ,dde^? em co^' go*~ ti`m ...    
	
>Ho*~i anh thu*o*ng, nhie^`u khi anh co' nghi~
>Pha?i la`m sao cho ti`nh dde.p ma`u ho^`ng ?
>Pha?i la`m sao cho ti`nh the^m thi vi. ???
>Khi ma` anh ,lo`ng cha(?ng muo^'n vun tro^`ng ???

>04-13-92

>MT
=================================================
	TPL ho.a la.i nu*~ si? pho`ng 3

	Co' nhu*~ng lu'c III  < ---- mt dda(.t te^n dda.i :-)

	Co' nhu*~ng lu'c gi'o hie^`n hoa` tri`u me^'n
	Ru ti`nh ta ngu? gia^'c mo^.ng nhung e^m
	Gi'o nhe. -du*a xa'c bu*o*'m ta.t be^n the^`m
	O^i ! -dau -do*'n, hi`nh ha`i bay theo la'

	Co' nhu*~ng lu'c gi'o nhe. ho^n le^n ma'
	Pho*'t nhe. hu*o*ng, -da^`y ra^?y nhu*~ng mie^n man
	Ho^`n lang thang tu*o*?ng nho*' -de^'n hoa ta`n
	Ma` -dau -do*'n cho ta^m ho^`n -do*n le?

	Tho^i em nhe', -du*`ng ho*`n anh em nhe'
	Cu*o*`i vo*'i anh cho ro^.n ra? bo*` mo^i
	Bie^'t cho anh, anh chi? co'  em tho^i
	Mang hu*o*ng la. toa? kha('p tro*`i ye^u me^'n

	Co' nhu*~ng lu'c anh lang thang ti`m -de^'n
	Cu*?a ho^`n anh va('ng la(.ng ha('t hiu
	-Da^u co`n nu*~a ngu*o*`i ti`nh xu*a ye^u da^'u
	-De^? ho^`n mo*, ma~i ma~i -du*o*.c nuo^ng chi`u

	Ho*?i em o*i ! anh la` ngu*o*`i cha^n tha^.t
	Cho em ye^u ... cho ngay ca~ ho^`n, tim
	Ye^u say me^, la`m ta^m ho^`n nga^y nga^'t
	Hie^'n da^ng em ta^'t ca? em muo^'n ti`m

	Ho*~i em thu*o*ng ! anh mong tha`nh thi si~
	To^ ti`nh ta muo^n kie^'p va^~n ma`u ho^`ng
	Ve~ ti`nh ta nhu* bu*o*'m giu*~a kho^ng trung
	Vo*'i muo^n ve~ cu?a -do*`i ngu*o*`i ... la('m mo^.ng

	TPL
	4/14/1992
From: nguyen@VAX.MUSKINGUM.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [News] VC on SCV,
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:11:17 GMT


	Xin ca'c ba.n lu*u y',

	DDe^? tra'nh ca'c ba.n bi. lo*.i du.ng the^m nu*~a...dda<.c bie^.t
la` ca'c ba.n trong ban nghie^n cu*'u he^. tho^'ng vie^.t ngu*~ tre^n computer
nhu* Viet-Std, Unicode...vv To^i ddu*o*.c bie^'t va` dda~ theo do~i ha`nh 
ddo^.ng cu?a mo^.t ngu*o*`i ho. Ngo^ te^n Nh.(1) cho^`ng cu?a chi. Mo* (2),
cu*.u roomate cu?a Nguye^~n T. Bi`nh(*).  O^ng Ngo^ dda~ tu*`ng tham gia ti'ch
cu*. trong ca'c bie^?u ti`nh cho^'ng chie^'n tranh VN khi du ho.c o*? Hoa
Ky`...Sau 1975, o^ng Ngo^ la`m kinh ta`i cho VC (3), nay lo*.i du.ng mo^.t
so^' ba.n tre? trong vie^.c tho^'ng nha^'t hoa' chu*~
vie^'t tie^'ng vie^.t tre^n computer(4).

	To^i xin lu*u y' ca'c ba.n dde^` pho`ng ke? ba^'t chi'nh na`y

(1) Nguye^.t Lai Mo^n Ha.
(2) Merle: chi. mo* la` te^n ca'c ddo^`ng chi' VC dda<.t cho.
(*) o^ng Bi`nh tham gia trong phong tra`o cho^'ng chie^'n tranh VN,  ca^`m
dda^`u nho'm sinh vie^n du ho.c o*? Hoa Ky`.  O^ng Bi`nh bi. CIA ba<'n che^'t
tre^n phi co* khi o^ng du`ng lu*.u dda.n uy hie^'p ha`nh kha'ch (hijack).
(3) Chuye^?n tie^`n, buo^n ba'n  
(4) DDie^`u dda'ng lu*u y' la` co' ba`i tu*o*`ng tri`nh ve^` he^. tho^'ng
    chu*~ vie^'t Vie^.t tre^n computer cu?a o^ng Ngo^ ddu*o*.c dda<ng
tre^n ta.p chi' khoa ho.c VC nhu*ng chu*a tu*`ng ddu*o*.c nha<'c dde^'n
trong SCV or Vietnet or Viet-Std ... vv

	Thu*.c ra va^'n dde^` to^i muo^'n ddu*o*.c nha^'n ma.nh o*? dda^y
kho^ng pha?i la` Quo^'c Gia hay Co^.ng Sa?n chi? la` khi la`m vie^.c vo*'i
nhau ne^n tha`nh thu*.c, co^ng ba<`ng mo^.t chu't.
From: chuynh@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Charles Huynh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [JOKE] Mexican.
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:04:32 GMT
Organization: HP Scientific Instruments Division - Palo Alto, CA


				    Mexican


One drunken black guy comes into the Mexican bar, bangs on the counter and
shouts.

Black guy: Hey bar-tender, give me a beer!

Bar-tender: Sorry man, we don't serve any black person in here. You have
	   to go to another bar. 

Black guy(in a sobered voice): I'm mexican, and I want a beer!

Bar-tender(puts a colt 45 in the black guy head): say something in mexican.

Black guy: Adios , mother f*ck*r.......... (then runs out of  the bar)


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From: trang@pine.circa.ufl.edu (Stewart,T.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: [Misc] Camden
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:48:59 GMT
Reply-To: trang@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida  (ufl.edu)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

Hi,
I live in Gainesville, Florida and I have one uncle who just came to US
(via HO program) for about 3 months.  He and his family lives in Camden,
N.J.  Is there a lot of Vietnamese lives there ?  How is the life there ?
Is there a job training program there ? and where he can go learn English?
Will he lose his welfare if he move to Florida ?  I don't think he can 
get any welfare here in Florida because the state is very poor right now.
The government cuts right and left here.  Anyone works for the State of
Florida (beside me ?) out there ?  Any hint will be useful.

Bye

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: gt5516b@prism.gatech.edu (ThanhTrung Nguyen,Mr. Nice GUY)
Subject: Re: C.N.M.T.
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: gt5516b@prism.gatech.edu
Organization: N/A
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 01:04:59 GMT

Soory neetter, read it for your own risk !!!! :-)

To CNMT va` Chris, DDK ...
 
> -Dai. Ca Cuo^`ng Nga.o Ma^.t Teo a`,
>    Tu*o*?ng -dai. ca tu*` gia~ giang ho^` chui va`o le'p tu ... ma^'y
> lon coke ro^`i chu*' ... hoa' ra va^~n co`n fa' thie^n ha. hi? :-)
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> ca coi chu*o*`ng
>                   Co' Ng` Mai` Thu*o*ng
>                   Cho Ngu*o*i Mo^.T Thu*o*ng ...
> 
> -Dai. Ca tu*. finish du`m -di he'.  Ti`nh -Dang Cho*` ... hi` hi`
> A`, tie^?u -de^. que^n ca'm o*n -dai. ca -da~ gio*'i thie^.u -de^. vo*i' ca'c
> ba.n giang ho^`.
>
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tham du*. va`o mo^n pha'i

Nay ki'nh,

Tie^?u Ta^y DDo^.c Cuo^`ng Nga.o 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: vinsight@netcom.com (Chan T. Vninsight)
Subject: Those Who Cannot Be Reeducated
Originator: daemon@media.mit.edu
Reply-To: vinsight@netcom.com
Organization: N/A
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:06:49 GMT


THOSE WHO CANNOT BE REEDUCATED

Written and translated into English by Dr. Istvan Lovas, Director of the
Foundation For the Victims of Communism.

According to figures provided by Jacquelin Desbarats and Karl Jackson,
researchers of the University of California, Berkeley, at least 65,000
people have been killed by the communists in Vietnam after the war.
Over a million people were "guests" in the ill-reputed camps of
reeducation. According to the California-based Aurora Foundation, at
least 69 reeducation camps operated two years ago, holding about 10,000
prisoners. Quite a variety of activities are provided in these
concentration camps for the prisoners: they do mine searching, forest
cleaning, dyke and canal building, pit quarrying...

Torture and executions are common place in the camps. Every prisoner is
obliged to learn by heart the camps' rules and regulations. They forbid,
among other things, talking to each other and praying. Those who violate
these rules are put in small corrugated-sheet containers that have a
tiny hole on the top to barely avoid suffocating the prisoner. They are
locked up in there for a period of three to six months. Containers left
behind by the US army offer more "comfort" which means that more
prisoners are cramped into one container. Over night, prisoners are
handcuffed to a pipe that runs on the side wall of the container,
parallel to the ground. As a rule, there are six prisoners lying there
like logs, condemned to perpetual immobility. Summertime, the containers
become so hot that many prisoners are cooked to dead.

Nguyen Chi Thien, the famous dissident poet who has spent most of his
life in the Vietnamese communist prison, said in one of his poem:
While it took two million years for the ape to become human, the reverse
process took much shorter in communist Vietnam.

There are also quite a variety of torture methods used in these camps. A
preferred method is to drive bamboo wedges under the nails and toes of
prisoners, and they are hit periodically by the blades of a fan. Those
who languish in dark cells are often tied up so much that the limbs
start to rot. Vermins feed on the open wounds, but the prisoners, their
hands also tied, cannot remove them. Many prisoners loose their ability
to walk for ever. Any sign of prisoners showing unwillingness toward
reeducation triggers an extraordinary fit of anger on the part of the
guards.

The last political prisoner was freed in 1988 according to the incumbent
Vietnamese Minister for the Interior of the time. Amnesty
International's 1990 report has information to the contrary.

-- 
Vietnam Insight (vinsight@netcom.com)
Chan Tran, editor