HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: carter@cemvax.cem.msu.edu (Tom Carter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: re: Procomm for Windows - Slow with high speed modem?
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:19:24 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University, East Lansing Michigan

>If you wait a mere week you can have a reference program for W4W (and
>others) running under windows: simon@minster.york.ac.uk here has written one,
>and we're just in the final stages of testing it. I have EndNote plus. A
>bigger heap of junk I have not seen. If it were free it would be overpriced.
>
>I think I am right in saying that the program (called WinRefer) about to
>released will be "conscienceware": i.e. give some money if you like it a lot.
>WinRefer works with refer format references but not CrApTeX format, so
>you'll have to write a filter to take your references into refer format. It
>uses the clipboard to paste reference entries and reference tags into a
>document (you can paste either RTF or ascii text into a word document). There 
>is even a reference formatting language so you can set up the style of 
>references you like (e.g. one per journal).
>
>WinRefer is dedicated to the downfall of EndNote Plus and all other
>overpriced shite for the PC.
>
>--
>Ken Tindell             Internet      : ken@minster.york.ac.uk
>Computer Science Dept., Local FTP site: minster.york.ac.uk
>York University,        Tel.          : +44-904-433244         
>YO1 5DD, UK             Fax.          : +44-904-432708
>--
>"The Gulf War won't be like a Rambo film; it will be long, bloody and terrible"

please, Please, PLEASE give me a copy and/or send it to ftp.cica.indiana.edu
when it's done! I'll love you forever if it's half as good as you say!
============================================================================
|         Tom Carter                    |     carter@cemvax.cem.msu.edu    |
|   Michigan State University           |     carter@msucem.bitnet         |
|     Chemistry Department              |                                  |
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms.programmer,comp.windows.ms.misc,comp.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.apps,sci.space,sci.astro,sci.edu
From: ebergman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Eric Bergman-Terrell)
Subject: Re: Upload Astronomy Lab for MS Win 3.x
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 02:09:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.162413.871@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> wdwells@nyx.cs.du.edu (David "Fuzzy" Wells) writes:
>This file is available at ftp.cica.indiana.edu in the windows area.
>			Fuzzy
>

Anyone know if it the most current version (1.13)?


Xref: sparky comp.os.ms-windows.apps:2394 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:2638
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Re: WINDOCK & Brian Capson?
From: davidw@ida.dsir.govt.nz (David White)
Date: 2 Sep 92 02:05:20 GMT
Organization: DSIR/IDA Auckland, New Zealand

In <1992Sep1.225151.12143@sfu.ca> guay@fraser.sfu.ca (Tim Guay) writes:

>In article <16120@pitt.UUCP> cap@mb5000.anes.upmc.edu (chris pilewski) writes:
>>Hi There,
>>
>>Brian Capson (becap@cs.mcgill.ca) is the developer of WinDock (a 
>>fine Windows program launcher).  I corresponded with him a few months 
>>ago about WinDock.  Now he seems to have vanished.  I got no reply 
>>when I tried to register my copy of WinDock.  And, he has not answered 

>But Brian did cash my registration cheque, though I haven't received a
>serial # so I can disable the nag... 

You can email him at briancap@microsoft.com
--
  david white        (engineer, Goon fan & son of my Dad)
 Internet davidw@ida.dsir.govt.nz  Fax +64 9 443-4737
From: albert@cs.uq.oz.au (Albert Ng)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Which Word Processor?
Date: 1 Sep 92 05:19:13 GMT
Reply-To: albert@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1992Aug31.072021.22259@sequent.com> furballs@sequent.com (Paul Penrod) writes:

>... . SO, before you decide anything based upon features alone, 
>consider the human factor before anything else and I can honestly 
>say you will not go wrong.

>...Paul

I COMPLETELY agreed with Paul that the user work pattern plays the
most important part here.

I have heard that people who used to work with wordperfect completely
refuse to work with another word processors. The time and effort to
rehabilitate and adapt to the new commands and environment reduces 
productivity at initial periods.

However, I also think that a good software (word processor in this case)
should provide an easy human-machine interface (such as the approach 
taken by the Macs and Windows). Easy access to yet sophisticated commands
(like buttons). These improves the learning curve and promote good wills 
towards the software.

So the point is, almost all word-processing softwares nowadays (at least
the 3 mented before) meets these requirements of userfreindless.
Productivity could then be taken over by the task requirements. There is no
point in having a software which does not do what we need to do, or
if there exists another one which could do the job better and faster.
Better and faster in terms of both machine and user performance. (By
better graphic handling routines and easier user command interface)

Referring back to the 3 word processors. They are more or less the same.
But there exists significant differnecs between each in different aspects.
As I said before, all depends on what one wants to do!

As a whole, yes, please do consider the human factor!!!

Albert
BIT Hons
UofQ
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: Procomm + for Windows - Delay time settings.
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:02:16 GMT

In <1992Aug24.085620.1513@walter.cray.com> huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) writes:
>I hope this is not in the manual. I RTFM'd and didn't find it. IS there
>a way to set the delay between dialing attempts to a shorter value.

It's a menu option on the dialing directory window; it's titled "Options".
(It's at the bottom of the fourth menu on the DD window -- can't remember
the name.)  The value is unique for each dialing directory, I believe.

                           "At this point I reveal myself in my true colours,
                            as a stick-in-the-mud."
                                           -- Sir Kenneth Clark
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                 **>> Keep circulating the tapes <<**
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.windows.ms.programmer
From: mfdjh@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dale Hample)
Subject: Re: ndw2.0, amipro3.0, wp5.1win
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:41:44 GMT

I've been using Word Perfect since 4.1, and moved to WPWin as soon as it
was available.  I stayed with it until this month.  I finally gave up
because I just couldn't bear its printing speed any more.  The last
straw was a 35 page paper, whose last 6 pages were graphics I drew with
Draw Pefect & imported.  It took more than an hour to print.  Out of
curiosity, I took it all down the hall, and asked a friend to print it
with Ami Pro.  It took 5-10 minutes, and he even had screen control back
sooner than with WPWin.  I still miss reveal codes, and sure wish AmiPro
would look me look at the bottom of page n and the top of page n+1
together, but that's it.  The draw program is as good as Draw Perfect,
you get back the ability to write a description to go with each file
name, and it's easy to learn after working with WPWin (or, I supposed,
any other Windows word processor).
-- 
Dale Hample                            Dept. Communication A&S
mfdjh@ecnuxa.bitnet                    Western Illinois University
mfdjh@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu                  309-298-1492
        The beatings will continue until morale improves.
From: goudswaa@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter Goudswaard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Looking for Sound converters
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:25:13 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

myhre@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert Myhre) writes:


>  Does anyone know if there is a sound converter that will convert Mac snd
>files to Windows wav files?  Or even snd to voc or even snd to mid?  I
>have been unable to locate anything of this fashion.

>  Also, if there is a better newsgroup to post this too, please let me
>know.  Thanks

>Robert Myhre
>Computer Engineer in Training... and Training... and Training
>North Dakota State University
>myhre@plains.nodak.edu   (Internet)     
>myhre@plains             (Bitnet)      
>uunet!plains!myhre       (UUCP)         
>
On a complete multimedia system that one of our elementary schools
bought -- Magnavox -- it came with all of the software pre-installed.
However, being trusting of no company, I looked at all the disks and
discovered that there was a directory on the Sound Blaster Pro Disk #1
called \sbpro\vedit2 that contains lharc'd (compressed) .voc-->.wav
and .wav-->.voc conversion programs.  It wasn't pre-installed.

Also, Magnavox makes the Philips multimedia PC system, so this will
apply to the Philips system as well (at least here in Canada).

 
-- 
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         Or if you feel really lucky:  peterg@quesnel.education.gov.bc.ca
From: rclc6@rw8.urc.tue.nl (Arjeh Tal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Asymetrix Daybook and ms-windows 3.1
Summary: Updating your daybook files from windows 3.0 to 3.1
Keywords: Asymetrix, windows 3.1, toolbook, daybook
Date: 31 Aug 92 10:06:23 GMT
Reply-To: rclc6@urc.tue.nl

After some unlucky trys to get an upgrade to tool book run time version 1.0
(which was supplied with windows-3.0) I tried to solve the problem myself.

Here's my solution:

1. Install ToolBook again (RUN tbksetup) after renaming your old daybook.tbk file.
2. Start DayBook with the empty daybook.tbk.
3. OPEN the old daybook file (from windows version 3.0).
4. SAVE AS daybook.tal.
5. EXIT ToolBook.
6. Rename daybook.tal daybook.tbk.
7. Now you can use the old information again (under windows 3.1).

Good Luck. (I'm still waiting for update!)

Arjeh Tal T.U.E. Eindhoven Holland, A.L.TAL@urc.tue.nl

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e-mail: A.L.TAL@urc.tue.nl              | Arieh Tal
phone:  +31 (0)40 474240                | Eindhoven University  of Technology
fax:    +31 (0)40 447035                | P.O. Box 513, 5600 MB Eindhoven, NL

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.databases
From: macole@wam.umd.edu (Mario A. Cole)
Subject: Re: dBFast
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:50:19 GMT

In article <Btq7Hu.3BC@chinet.chi.il.us> dhartung@chinet.chi.il.us (Dan Hartung) writes:
>macole@wam.umd.edu (Mario A. Cole) writes:
>>bruhn@uxe.wu-wien.ac.at ( Peter Bruhn ) writes:
>>>Will CA really support two products that have the same target group?
>>>DbFast was supposed a tool to convert Dbase and Clipper applications
>>>to Windows! And they seem to support dbFast (Version 2.0 is expected
>>>for the near future). I will try to check it out, and as soon I get
>>>more information, I will post it.
>>
>>I guess it would be the same as Borland releasing Paradox for Windows and Dbase
>>for Windows.  I work under contract for the Navy...and believe me, they are not
>>leaving Clipper until Clipper is extinct for at least 20 years or so.  I figure
>>that CA will try to sway those Clipper faithfuls (like some of the old dudes at
>>work) into using their own Apps...
>
>Hey, dbFast is no more "their own" app than Clipper.  CA has been quite
>acquisitive the last couple of years.  They don't have a single category
>killer, yet in terms of volume of PC software sales are in the top five
>or so companies.
>
>dbFast was available, so why not buy it and bill it as a temporary solution?
>
Why?  Because it makes too much sense...I have to order a demo or get hold of
an evaluation copy of Dbfast in order to show what it can do...so, I came up
with another idea...why not get a database library for Visual Basic?  HA!!!
I just love government (and corporate) bureaucracy...don't you??

Well, enough whining...anybody out there got any input on whether or not it
is a good idea to use VB database libs...if so, any ideas on which ones?
Actually, I'll take any ideas related to the above topic(s).

Thanks in advance,
Mario

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University of Maryland College Park  |  Crystal City, Arlington, VA 22202
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: bnortman@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Bill Nortman)
Subject: Clip Art
Keywords: Graphic
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:27:49 GMT

Thanks,

Bill Nortman
From: mm@pico.OZ (Manuel Mall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: QVTNET 2.7
Date: 3 Sep 92 10:24:42 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, Uni. Western Australia.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I started using QVTNET 2.7 some days ago and wonder if someone
can help me with some minor problems I have encountered:

1. I cannot get the nameserver feature to work.
   After trying various different setting in the QVT_TCP.RC
   file I have given up and put in all the individual IP
   addresses of the machines I am normally working with.

2. The NEWS reader does not allow me to post any messages
   or follow-ups. The options always stay greyed. I believe
   the settings in the NNTP host configuration file are correct.

3. I tried contacting the email address given in the associated
   documentation but had no success, the message bounced.

Thanks

Manuel Mall
QPSX Communications Ltd
33 Richardson St
West Perth, WA 6005
Australia
email: mmall@qpsx.oz.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Some more misconceptions regarding OS/2 and NT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:42:15 GMT

In <Bt9D0B.9E7@acsu.buffalo.edu> v053qpgh@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric W Sarjeant) writes:

>In article <1992Aug17.161440.25810@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu>, rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard Warner) writes...
>>petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly) writes:
>> 
>> 
>>>Actually, this brings up a thought.  How many computers were there with
>>>disk drives 10-15 years ago.  Most of them used casette tape (PC's).
>> 
>>BZZZZZZT!  Wrong answer.   Many machines had disk drives 10-15 years ago.
>>Closer to the 15 year end they were commonly 8" drives, then went to
>>the 5-1/4" about 12 years ago.  Only the real low-end systems, e.g. the
>>TRaSh-80, were primarily tape drive.  Apple (I), Apple II's, NorthStars
>>and the like commonly had disk drives.  That is why it was so stupid of
>>IBM to try to make the original PC a cassette-drive machine.  Sure the
>>disk drives were more expensive, but they were so much faster!  
>>(I worked in an R&D lab 14 years ago where our engineering 'workstation'
>>was a TRaSh-80 with cassette drive and 4K of RAM; we though we were in
>>heaven when it was upgraded to an Apple with Disk Drive and 16K!).
>> 

>Since when did the Apple II's have hard drives? I purchased an Apple IIe
>and hard drive storage was not even an option at the time. As far as I can
>remember, the Apple series was not internally structured to conviently
>fit a hard drive upgrade.

Where did he say anything about HARD drives?  We're talking BEFORE
hard drives, back when FLOPPIES were new and different.


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From: jmmadiso@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: program manager lacks!
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:09:49 -0500

to one of you microsoft people...
what's up with the prog manager... why can't you perform file
operations from there?  did you not think of that or you just didn't
know how or will it be there in the next release? (i'm not even THINKING about
purchasing NT, i'm just a student) please do something about this.


-a (somewhat) dissappointed new windows (3.1) user


jmmadiso@indyvax.iupui.edu  (please send here, i don't to usenet often)
Computer Science/Math Dept.
From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: program manager lacks!
Date: 31 Aug 92 10:19:18 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <15938@star.cs.vu.nl> xerox@cs.vu.nl (J. A. Durieux) writes:
>
>My /windows directory is quite clean, but then I moved everything to its
>own directory (.wri files to /windows/doc, .wav files to
>/media/sounds/waves, application to their own directories, etc.  I am an
>organisation fanatic..).
>And then, I have never heard that a full directory hinders the running of
>programs.  Is that the case on the Mac?

An overflowing directory doen't hamper the running of programs, though it
makes finding things and system management a god-awful nightmare.

Neil
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
From: maynard@groo.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley)
Subject: Re: program manager lacks!
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Distribution: world,local
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 08:20:48 GMT


>> On the other side of the fence on the Mac, the file *is* the application
>or data
>> double-click and run.h
>
>Indeed.  Too bad Macs are proprietary and overpriced.

You mean like how I can ftp to ftp.apple.com to pick up latest version of
the
system software, but MS has no comparable site- I have to plunk down my
$89
or so for each upgrade. Oh- you mean this is the IBM-PC version of
proprietary
which is defined in terms of hardware (which does nothing for you) rather
than software (which is what mostly defines the machine.)

Maynard Handley
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: ekl@fics.uucp
Subject: Re: program manager lacks!
Organization: Kvam data as
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 23:40:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.093815.3354@cs.hw.ac.uk> neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.180950.165@indyvax.iupui.edu> jmmadiso@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
>>to one of you microsoft people...
>>what's up with the prog manager... why can't you perform file
>>operations from there?  did you not think of that or you just didn't
>>know how or will it be there in the next release? (i'm not even THINKING about
>>purchasing NT, i'm just a student) please do something about this.
>>
>
>Beacuse Windows is so dense, it needs loads of extra config info from win.ini
>which means stuff won't work optimally from the ok(ish) file manager. Thus
>the Program Manager was created which is entirely seperate from the file one.
>
>This twin way of working is one of my mayor gripes about Windows. It
>is a very crap way of going about things and helps keep data files hidden
>away from applications. 
>
>On the other side of the fence on the Mac, the file *is* the application or data
>double-click and run.
>
>Neil
>
>P.S. Take a look in your /windows directory. What a disgusting mess, no wonder
>     windows is such a nightmare to run.

Given you have the hardware (8MB recommended) you may want to take a look
at os/2 2.0, which has a macintosh-like user interface, at least in respect
to the missing (?) file and program managers. ("Missing" because they only
"exist", and are not "started", and... well, it just works -- beautifully!)

Eirik
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: program manager lacks!
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 28 Aug 92 07:50:07 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

In article <1992Aug28.093815.3354@cs.hw.ac.uk>, neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite) writes:
> Beacuse Windows is so dense, it needs loads of extra config info from win.ini
> which means stuff won't work optimally from the ok(ish) file manager. Thus
> the Program Manager was created which is entirely seperate from the file one.

Eh?  Explain this to me.  I thought it was just an oversight by MS, i.e.
"most people want to work with programs, worry about file management later."
I haven't heard any technical reasons why PM was separate from FM.

> This twin way of working is one of my mayor gripes about Windows. It
> is a very crap way of going about things and helps keep data files hidden
> away from applications.

Yep.  You can take data files from FM and drag them into the PM group you
want, but it isn't easy or intuitive.  BTW, do you use hotkeys on FM?  It 
fixes the dual way of working prob somewhat.

I myself am raiding cica for some freeware ProgMan replacements.....

> On the other side of the fence on the Mac, the file *is* the application or data
> double-click and run.

Indeed.  Too bad Macs are proprietary and overpriced.
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."
From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.advocacy
Subject: Re: program manager lacks!
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:19:31 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1992Aug29.040842.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
>> 
>> You mean like how I can ftp to ftp.apple.com to pick up latest version of
>> the
>> system software, but MS has no comparable site- I have to plunk down my
>> $89
>> or so for each upgrade.
>
>Eh, what?  Assuming that what you said is the truth, I feel bad for 
>the 99% of mac users unlucky enough not to even know what an ftp site is.
>They have to pay through the nose for upgrades just like the rest of us.
>

Or pop down to your local friendly Mac dealer with a handful of floppies
and they will copy a version for you free of charge.

See, anti-Mac people who slag Mac's off but are somewhat unaware of what
is really going on !?!?!

Neil