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From:         "Philip Richins, Continuing Education, CWU,
              (509) 963-1504" <RICHINSP@CWU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Stats & Therapists

Larry,
Saybrook Institute is located in San Francisco.  It is an accredited graduate
school and research institute which has an "at-a-distance" format.  It offers
Masters and Ph.D degrees in Psychology and Human Science.  Prior to
accreditation it was known as the Institutue of Humanistic Psychology.  Among
the founding faculty are Rollo May and J.  Bugentahl.  The philosophy of the
institute is clearly humanistic.

Excuse my chronic typos. I havent figured out the "editor" function on this
'puter yet.

Philip
RICHINSP@CWU.BITNET

Working at Central Washington University
Studying at SAYBROOK INSTITUTE
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Subject:      Re: PLEASE DO ME A FAVOR

please sign me off of payc grad
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Sunni...glad to make your acquaintance...don't believe I've seen your
name posted before...or have I overlooked it?  Will be happy to send
you something...am running a pilot of the project now and am running
into several glitches that are creating much angst...will be happy to
discuss with you through personal e-mail though...how's that?

Sybil
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Subject:      Re: Value of response latency measurement in CBT

Tom,

I am interested in your plans to use response latency as a measure (or as one
of several measures) of comprehension.  I am working on a project where we
are considering using response latency as one measure of "expertise."

A couple of issues:

1.  How confident can you be that your assessment environment is fairly
distraction-free and/or that the CBT package will have the subjects' full
attention?  I have had some interesting results gathering latency data,
including deciding how to deal with data from a session during which a fire
drill occurred.

2.  Will subjects be aware that latency data is being collected?  This may
make up for some of their tendency to "multi-task."

3.  If subjects are aware of being timed, is there a chance that this will
encourage a strategy that is nonoptimal for deeper learning, reflection, etc.

Anyway, I am nterested to know more about your project.

Good luck,

John M. Ford             BYU Instructional Psychology Program
740 South 50 East        (801) 224-9039
Orem, UT 84058           fordj@yvax.byu.edu
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From:         Tim Tumlin <UFTRT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Stats & Therapists

   I don't know, Jennifer. It must be love. (Do you have a brother
who always irritated you?)
     First, I'm sure APA is challengeable in many ways, but I can't see APS
doing the job instead -- APS started because a lot of psychologists thought
APA was overrun with professional psychologists as it was.
   It may not be such a bad system that a national academic/professional
organization like APA oversees training but state boards of professional
regulation regulate licensure.  It spreads out the oversight.
   You're right that bad supervisors could pass on more problems (but
then who are YOU to say who's a bad supervisor?)  but they're all
we've got and the good ones usually fix a lot of problems that the bad
ones cause, in my experience.
   As for good and bad therapists, why can't I have my opinion?  If I were in
school to be a Harley mechanic I'd probably have a better idea of who's
a good mechanic than other people. (And you're getting on the wrong person
about that -- I'm the one who's biased in favor of accreditation of
training programs.) If you think this opinion about how therapists vary
in quality is mine alone, you're quite wrong.

Tim. Chaotic and still smoldering. (I'm glad you feel guilty; I'll try to
cash in on that some time.)
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Hi!

        Could somebody help this person?  Thanks!
--Kathy Morgan

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Subject:      Re: Stats & Therapists

Philip,
        I am curious.  What exactly do you mean when you state that
you are "working at Central Washington University" and "studying at
Saybrook Institute"?  I was able to find a listing for Cent. Wash. Univ.
in both an Almanac and a dictionary listing of colleges; it appears to
be located in Ellensburg.  However, I found no mention of Saybrook.
Excuse my ignorance.  Thanks.
        Larry.
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From:         "Philip Richins, Continuing Education, CWU,
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Subject:      Re: mail problems

David,
I don't know if there has been a problem with mail.  I have had to work
through break, and have monitored the list daily.  There has been no activity
for the last few days(until I saw your posting.)  Lets see if this gets out.
:-{)
Philip
RICHINSP@CWU.BITNET

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Studying at SAYBROOK INSTITUTE
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From:         "Philip Richins, Continuing Education, CWU,
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Subject:      Re: Stats & Therapists

Jennifer writes:
"My big  comment here is that schooling - while not the big police we
may desire - could effectively weed out good from bad.  Arm them with
knowledge kind of thing.  That's all. "
Amen.

When one faces one's orals (and other hurdles) with a health level of terror,
knowing that the process will be rigorous, one is more likely to show their
identity as flower or weed.  I spoke to Roger Fouts (Prof at CWU, Primate
Center, working with signing Chimpanzes) one day about his final orals.  He
that he had been doing quite well, but they seemed endless.  One particular
member of the committee was brutal, but Roger was up to the task.  Until...
he was asked a very simple question and his mind went blank.He sat there
looking at the committee, like he was a lizard on a rock.  Finally this
"brutal" committee member offer a "suggestion" which slapped Roger back into
reality and he was able to continue.  When it was all complete, and Roger had
passed, this committee member came to him and shook his hand and said. "Thank
you, Roger, for letting me be a Dragon at the Gate."  Utimately, this is where
we show that we are, in fact, prepared.  If the process is respected.  I just
have to have faith that happens.

Philip
RICHINSP@CWU.BITNET

Working at Central Washington University
Studying at SAYBROOK INSTITUTE
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BH>report back to the conferees on how the Foundation can
BH>modify its process to assure that only research that
BH>"is focused on the fundamental laws and systems of
BH>science, that supports the nation's technological base,
BH>that supports the nation's economic competitiveness,
BH>and that improves the nation's mathematical and science
BH>education endeavors" be supported.  This directive
BH>implies that basic research in the behavioral and
BH>social sciences is not a priority and thus should not
BH>be funded.

The above directive and the list of "frivolous" research projects you 
provided do suggest a bias against behavioural research, especially of the 
social science variety.  I suspect that this is due largely to the general 
public's ignorance of psychology as a discipline.  Psychology may not 
offer the immediate, tangible benefits to society of engineering or 
medical science, but I believe it can make valuable contributions in many 
areas (employee selection, education, legal procedures, treatment of 
behaviour disorders, etc etc etc); and, of course, pure research should 
also be valued as an essential endeavour.  Unfortunately, when most people 
think of psychology, they think of Freud or Dr. Joyce Brothers (I know 
some otherwise well-rounded people who are surprised at the breadth of 
pschological study).
APA (and APS) have failed to educate the public about psychology (yes, APA 
took over Psychology Today ... ha) and we continue to pay for public 
ignorance.  

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From:         Stuart Conger <CGCXF@UOTTAWA.BITNET>

I should like to subscribe to PSYCGRAD AND PSYGRD-J
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Subject:      Re: Driving simulations, help request

Try the Pyschology Department at Leeds University.
They have just bought in a very expensive state of the art
driving simulator.
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please let me sign off psyc grad!!!!
From: ckw0@aber.ac.uk (Carl Keri Williams)
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Subject: Driving simulations, help request
Keywords: driving, simulation, research
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:13:40 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth


Posted on behalf of a friend: followup/reply to her at the mail address given,
please, ash she's not got News access - if anyone's interested in responses 
I'll post a summary (let me know at my own e-mail address above)

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....Hello...I'm Diane Haigney at Aston Uni. in England (UK)...got a bit of a 
problem back here to do with driving simulators. Basically the one we have 
is pretty sad, since it only shows a straight road - no intersections, no 
buildings, no roundabouts etc. etc. Is there anyone out there who could 
possibly help me? I'm applying for a Phd. place here, and I'm totally stumped
unless I can either get hold of a more realistic version of a simulator, or 
failing that, a patch up job on the one we have. Help! I'll be self-funded
so moneys tight, but I will try and pay programmers/copyright etc.


...Also, does anyone know of any funded research available out there, (any
topic!), or research that can be supported through teaching (I'm teaching at the
moment - GCSE, 'A' Level and undergraduate levels in Psychology, Statistics
and I.T.) in case the driving simulator-based Phd. falls through?

I'm contactable Haigneyde@Lampeter.ac.uk, thanks!


(and merry christmas!)

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Subject:      Re: OPAC introductory screen

To University of Minnesota question:
We have multiple screens on our OPAC, so I think you must have something
amiss.
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Subject:      Re: OPAC introductory screen

The University of Alabama has Three introductory screens.  I am not the person
who input the screens, but I did not receive any reports of any problems in
creating screens two and three.

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From:         "Anne L. Highsmith (409-845-8111)" <K026AH@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Problems with MDAS 1.3

Having installed MDAS 1.3 in our test region, I would like to point
out a couple of things which I see as problems, mostly due to changed
or removed functionality.

1. For a secured database (one which requires sign-on) it is no longer
   possible to define a subset of terminals which does not require
   sign-on.

   Under MDAS 1.21, we require dial-in users of our Wilson databases
   to sign on, because our Wilson contract requires it, but we do not
    require sign-on on the in-building terminals, because Wilson does
   not require that. This is possible under 1.21, because sign-on is
   part of the terminal control in nsys. Now, sign-on has been moved
   out of terminal control and into Navigator control with 1.3, so
   if you define a database to require sign-on, it will do so with all
   terminals.

   This creates a problem, of course, for community users, high school
   students, etc., who don't fall under our Wilson contract but were
   always able to use Wilson if they came into the building. Changed
   functionality is forcing us to be more restrictive than we have to be
   or find some unsatisfactory work-around.

2. This is problem only for multi-institution group installations.
   Under MDAS 1.21, all mdas programs were subordinate to an lu tran-
   saction. You couldn't get into mdas until you'd issued a transaction
   that also put you into context of a particular institution group.
   Thus, for multi-institution group sites like ours, the system knew
   which patron file to check for patron sign-on and which catalog to
   hook to for holdings statements.

   With MDAS 1.3, mdas programs are independent of lu transactions. The
   only way to get into MDAS is through Navigator. Patron group checking
   and hook-to-holdings
   arecontrolled by the "associated institution group" parameter in the
   terminal definitions in NSYS. We can set up only 1 terminal group
   definition for dial-in and networked terminals because we use
   auto-install. Thus, we can't do patron checking properly, because if
   the patron isn't in the associated institution group, the system does
    not check the other insgrp's for validation. It just responds "Patron
   not found". Hook-to-holdings can be fixed by an explicit set holding
   command, if we can get the patron in in the first place.

   Just another example of something that WORKED BEFORE but NOTIS took
   away the functionality so it no longer works.

Anne L. Highsmith
NOTIS Coordinator
Texas A&M University
409-862-4234 (voice)
409-845-6238 (fax)
email: anne-highsmith@tamu.edu
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Subject: RE: Problems with MDAS 1.3
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> Having installed MDAS 1.3 in our test region, I would like to point
> out a couple of things which I see as problems, mostly due to changed
> or removed functionality.
>
> 1. For a secured database (one which requires sign-on) it is no longer
>    possible to define a subset of terminals which does not require
>    sign-on.
>
>    Under MDAS 1.21, we require dial-in users of our Wilson databases
>    to sign on, because our Wilson contract requires it, but we do not
>     require sign-on on the in-building terminals, because Wilson does
>    not require that. This is possible under 1.21, because sign-on is
>    part of the terminal control in nsys. Now, sign-on has been moved
>    out of terminal control and into Navigator control with 1.3, so
>    if you define a database to require sign-on, it will do so with all
>    terminals.
>
>    This creates a problem, of course, for community users, high school
>    students, etc., who don't fall under our Wilson contract but were
>    always able to use Wilson if they came into the building. Changed
>    functionality is forcing us to be more restrictive than we have to be
>    or find some unsatisfactory work-around.
>
                               . . . . . .
> email: anne-highsmith@tamu.edu

We were able to have terminals that had patron signon security and other
terminals that did not for the same database.  You create one navigator
grouping for your databases and set "signon" to "y" and create
another navigator grouping with the same databases but set "signon"
to "n".  We have a number of configurations depending on the library
so I've resorted to treating the parameter name like an UPSI switch.  The
first letter has to be alpha but after that each place represents a
database with "1" meaning security on and "0" meaning security off,
e.g., M011001.  We have set the parameter display to "n" so that the
public never sees this and the description name is the same for all
profiles.  This naming configuration really helps when I then go to the
terminal definition to insert this parameter name under "group".
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From:         "Rick Gates" <LB05GATE@UCSBUXA.BITNET>
Subject:      History of NOTIS releases
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Holiday Greetings!

Since I am relatively new to the world of NOTIS (1 yr), I felt that
there were probably others better able to answer the following
question:

        "When were the NOTIS releases released?"

I'm working from the following preliminary information which, I'm
betting, is only partly accurate.
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NOTIS Release    Approximate date
3.0              ??/?? ?
4.0              ??/?? ?
4.4              7/87 ?
4.5              8/89 ?
4.6.1            F/90 ?
5.0              7/91 ?
5.0.1            12/91 ?
5.0.2            04/92
5.1              11/92
5.2              ??/94 ?

As you can see, I've still got a lot I'm not sure about.  How about
those of you that have been involved for a lot longer...  mind
reaching back into the dim, dark recesses of NOTIS lore?

Thanks, and again,

HOPE YOUR HOLIDAYS WERE HAPPY!
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