From: tafrakes@athena.mit.edu (T. Andy Frakes)
Subject: Re: Cracker-Jack Empire, and other assorted topics...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:49:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.071018.16146@daimi.aau.dk>, ctjmrr@daimi.aau.dk (Claus Torp Jensen) writes:
|> kb@thedog.cis.ufl.edu (Ken Bukauski) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >Suddenly a post becomes a challenge, how interesting.  If you recall, Redline
|> >simply asked for discussions on the matter of US players being generally
|> >better than non-US players.  
|> 
|> The point is, that I DO recall exactly what you said......I didn't like it,
|> and I'm not the only non-US player who didn't (even some US players think it's
|> exaggerating just a tiny bit...:) ).
|> 
|> >If anyone takes this personally
|> 
|> Yes, unfortunately I DO take it personal, when someone I have never played
|> with starts judging my playing skill.......
|> 
|> >then look
|> >for Redline in the next game and take your best shot, one at a time though
|> >(unless you want a group vs group skirmish).  Redline will not be held
|> >responsible for settling challenges from third-world nations that could
|> >have been present in earlier games.  
|> 
|> I simply don't believe this guy. He keeps degrading players he doesn't even
|> know. I resent being called a third world nation.......
|> 
|> >If you had been present, well then, you
|> >would have helped prove my point... :)
|> 
|> Seriously, I have proved MY point now. I am present now, I'm ready to play,
|> but You don't have the time for it. Thats OK, I understand....:)
|> Maybe I had other business at the times when You were playing.....
|> 
|> >But seriously, Hurricane Andrew impacts my life daily and this is not a good
|> >time for Redline to break out the Un-Welcome Wagon (tm).  Even if I had time
|> >I'd rather play a traditional empire game with the standard set of rules than
|> 
|> So what makes you think that I won't rather play traditional games (although
|> I must admit that I cannot keep up with too frequent updates)? Not many
|> of those around though.....
|>  
|> >some of the Cracker-Jack Empire (tm)-"Where every game has a hidden surprise!"-
|> >typically found today.  Of course, Redline will extend invitations to all 
|> >of it's allies for one last hurrah...
|> 
|> >In all fairness, one country has shown great ability and is from Australia.
|> >Redline went after this country in Merc V to see exactly how good this nation
|> >has become, and I'm impressed enough to make mention of him in this forum.
|> >Some may disagree, but Guzzer has made a name for himself despite early
|> >criticism and has my vote... Cheers!
|> 
|> Oh, I'm surprised......
|> So what does it take to make a name for oneself? Does one HAVE to play
|> against Redline. That might be somewhat difficult if you are more or less
|> retired at present (but seriously I was thinking of retiring myself.....
|> your original post just made me rethink......I found it just a tiny
|> bit arrogant).
|> 
|> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> >  _Made in Redline_   "Sectorjacking (tm) Specialists... "
|> >                       For more information call: 1-800-ILostIt
|> >------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> 
|> 
|> Now, why didn't I just argue my case on r.g.e. as everybody else, instead of
|> making a *stupid* challenge. I'll tell you why. Some of the recent posts
|> from people that I don't even know, make me consider whether I want to read
|> r.g.e. at all. And if that is the kind of argument thats presently possible
|> on r.g.e, there is no way one could make any point nomatter how many posts
|> one made.
|> 
|> 
|> Claus/The (still proud) King of Graahoeje
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> PS: You only need to calculate certain numbers for che's ONCE every game
|> (or even just remember the relevant formulae). Then you have them in your head
|> for the rest of the game....:)

Your problem is that you're taking things far too personally.  If you keep
letting people get to you like this, more and more people will start
taunting you just to get a cheap thrill because they know they will get
you to jump up and react.  All Ken did was ask a question to r.g.e about
who the good non-US players were and you immediately read this as: "ALL
NON-US PLAYERS SUCK."  You did this with a couple other comments, too.  If
you're too self-conscious about your empire ego, maybe empire isn't the game
for you -- empire is much more enjoyable if you can learn how to take
criticism and not go nuts every time someone questions your ability.

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