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From: lharris@hubcap.clemson.edu (Larry Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: photo radar
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:39:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Clemson University

davida@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (David Andersen) writes:

>In some cities around me, they use a modified version of the photo-radar.
>It does not send a ticket (people won't storm city hall!), but it does
>post in HUGE digital numbers the speed that you are travelling.
>Above the speed is a replica of the speed limit sign for the street.

>It does a BETTER job than law enforcement because everyone on the road
>sees it and slows down.  Nobody stops and looks to see what kind of car
>the person is that is getting the ticket.

Yes, but you neglected to mention that Highway patrolmen (patrolpersons
for you PC nuts) are not out there to make us safer, they're there to
make money.  Actually I refer to them as revenue collection agents, or
moving toll booth attendants, along with the usual choice blend of
profanity based names.

-- 
-Larry Harris-                |  '86 Mustang lx 5.0 notchback
lharris@hubcap.clemson.edu    |  Meyer's Tow'd Dune Buggy
lharris@clemson.bitnet        |  OS-9, a leaner meaner UNIX
Clemson Computer Engineering  |  RUSH, YES, R.E.M, The Who
From: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Using the horn
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:50:16 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Apr13.071856.24513@leland.Stanford.EDU> tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes:
>well, when i'm in a bad mood, i just whip out
>a .357 and blow the bastard away.
>when i'm merely pissed, i lean on the horn.  this doesn't

  Be careful Theodore, in Calif you can get a ticket for using a
  .38 (a .357 in cheap suit) in a .22 zone.
From: gaw30@ccc.amdahl.com (Greg A Worth)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Kit Cars at Indy?
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:50:20 GMT
Reply-To: gaw30@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Greg Worth  gaw32@amail.amdahl.com)
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

SCVA World Kit Car Show / KCI Run and Gun '92

The Specialty Constructed Vehicle Association (SCVA) will 
hold its World Kit Car Show at Indianapolis Raceway Park July 
24-26, and this show will be a monster-guaranteed! KITCAR 
Illustrated Editor Bill Moore is making plans for Run And Gun 
'92 at Indianapolis Raceway Park July 22-24. We encourage you 
to bring your replica or kit car to participate.These are two 
reasons to get your replica automobile and head to Indy in 
July.

Okay, this is the scoop. KIT CAR Illustrated will be holding 
its Fifth Run And Gun event in close conjunction with the 
SCVA's big summer show.  Both events will take place at one 
of America's finest motorsports complexes,  Indianapolis 
Raceway Park. In an effort to condense and more completely  
utilize the long weekend, we will hold a full one-day 
driver's school for all Run And Gun participants on the first 
day, Wednesday, July 22. The next day will be devoted to 
running the SCCA Solo II-style autocross. On Friday morning 
we'll launch the cars down the drag strip.

The driving school will be conducted  around IRP's full 2.5-
mile road course and the track's skid pad by Right On Track. 
The school will include braking, slalom and skid control 
exercises. To give you an idea of how good this school is, 
Right On Track's professional instructors have driving 
experience in virtually all types of racing, including 
Formula One, Indy Cars, NASCAR and IMSA GTP.

If you're interested in participating in the professional 
driving school, SCCA Solo II-style autocross,or quarter mile 
runs at IRP's drag strip(the event is open to authentic 
Cobras, Cobra replicas and any other kit car, with four 
wheels or three, gasoline or electric-powered), it's time to 
talk it up with your buddies and members of your club. 
Because we will be limiting the enrollment on a first-come, 
first-served basis, we urge you to call us immediately at 
(415) 969-9244 for full details.

For information on the SCVA Show contact the appropriate 
Regional Director:
West Coast (Zone 1) George Evans 310/422-9167
North Central (Zone 2) Bob Hobson 602/981-7316
South Central (Zone 3) Tom Kuritz 405/672-4107
Detroit (Zone 4) Dave Radtke 310/422-9167
Dixie (Zone 5) Lee Boatright 404/981-4143
Northeast (Zone 6) Louw Broadfield 416/877-6485

As usual, the expanded Run And Gun and SCVA Show will receive 
full coverage in upcoming editions of KCI. Last year we drew 
56 cars and ran a 22-page article on the event. We guarantee 
you, this is something you don't want to miss as either a 
manufacturer or as a kit car enthusiast. And this time 
around, we are increasing the number of racing classes 
eligible for trophies.
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From: eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu (Brutus Thornapple)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Experience purchasing 1992 VW GTI 16v (long)
Date: 6 Apr 92 06:44:23 GMT
Organization: clearer than blir

In article <1992Apr5.232338.25432@rdr.com> randy%rdr.com@uu.psi.com (Randy Tidd) writes:

>Also the coolant idiot  
>light flickerd once or twice (4-5 seconds) when the car was started cold.   

[..]

>on 3-31 and mentioned that the coolant light still  
>flickers after the engine is started cold.  

[..]

>Here we are on 4-5 and guess what -- the coolant light flickers once or  
>twice after the car is started cold.  I am reluctant to even mention it to  
>the dealer or god knows what they'll "fix" this time.

[..]

>And about the coolant light -- there is obviously a problem with their  
>diagnostics, and they still haven't fixed it.

[..]

>1) What is causing the coolant light to flicker?  The handbook says it  
>indicated the "coolant temperature/level".  If the light flashes, is it  
>too cold?  Too hot?  Too low?  Too high?


RELAX GUY!!!!!  IT'S  N O R M A L!!!!

All it is is a check to see that the bulb and its associated circuitry is
working.  It's just like the ignition and oil lights coming on when you
first start the car.  Every single VW does this.  I'd be worried if it
didn't.  Sorry to learn that your otherwise good dealer didn't tell you
about it.  Doesn't the owner's manual say that it *will* flicker on
startup?  I could have sworn that it did..

Anyway, have fun and enjoy the car..


eliot
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From: karl@ncrspks.SparksNV.NCR.COM (Karl Held)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.driving,rec.autos.tech,rec.autos.sport
Subject: Porsche 944 Workshop Manuals For Sale
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:51:55 GMT
Reply-To: karl@ncrspks.SparksNV.NCR.COM (Karl.Held@SparksNv.NCR.COM)
Distribution: world
Organization: NCR Corporation, FESC 778, Sparks, NV

From karl Mon Apr 13 12:34:34 1992
Subject: 944 Workshop Manuals For Sale
To: porschephiles@karazm.math.uh.edu (porschephile)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 12:34:34 PDT
From: Karl Held <karl@ncrspks.SparksNV.NCR.COM>
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL8]
Status: RO

I have a set of Porsche 944 Workshop Manuals for sale. The set includes two 
volumes of the original German edition which comes in two red Porsche binders, 
plus a copy of the English version. If you can't read German, you can use the 
original edition as a photographic reference. The German edition is brand new. 
The English copy is in excellent condition (no grease marks.) The English and
German sets will be sold together only.
I also have Haynes and Clymer 924 manuals and a Haynes 944 manual.
Please submit offers. Buyer pays shipping.
-- 
Karl Held - N7ITN  NCR SPARKS FESC ISS  \
405 Edison Way, Reno, Nevada 89502 USA  ) \
TEL: 702-786-1832    FAX: 702-786-6473  )___\  
VP:270-1000 Karl.Held@SparksNv.NCR.COM  .-----

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: Peter A. Cohen <peterco@eff.org>
Subject: Re: Window Tinting Questions
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:15:24 GMT

If anyone has any specific information about Massachusetts window tinting
laws, I'd be interested in getting information!

- Peter
From: bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Andrew Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Are all Americans Stupid???
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:02:53 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

My general view of speed limits is that on a decent road they should
be high enough so that natural selection can take it's course.
Within a few generations the worst drivers would be bred out of the 
gene pool.  This might be helped by allowing people to drive from the 
age of 10, and by increasing the age of consent for sex to about 21 :)

In residential areas, I am all in favour of low speed limits so long 
as they don't stop people from concentrating on their driving.

			Andrew  Henry
Sempre  Gilles					bspahh@gdr.bath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: pauly@netcom.com (Paul Yoshimune)
Subject: Re: Stuff...
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 03:28:25 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Easy, easy!  You'll find that I said the B-210 and Chevette were specifically
NOT good handling cars, which was my point - that not all rear wheel drivers
were good handling.  Just a misunderstanding, eh?

I believe the Camaro would outhandle the Corvette as well as the Thunderbird
in 1970.  The 911 and 240Z bring up interesting questions, though.  Both are
fine handling cars, which makes me wonder if the test were limited to American
cars...Not sure.  Again, memory is starting to fail me...

As for the 911, given a good driver (no, not even that - a good driver familiar
with 911s...) the car can handle pretty well.  After flogging an '86 Carerra,
I was left very unimpressed.  The power was severely lacking until the tach
hit about 4,000 to 4,500 and then screamed to the rev limiter (around 5,500 or
5,750).  Everywhere below there though, it was a dog.  Granted I am not a 911
driver, but I found that the car handled well - BUT, doing so pushed the
limits.  The car could probably keep up with a Corvette on a twisty highway,
but would be in a pretty loose state the whole way.  The Corvette, on the 
other hand, can deliver incredible road holding without a lot of drama (until
you start hitting those potholes!  :-) )  But whatever...Handling is more
driver than vehicle...

-- 
-Paul Yoshimune [pauly@netcom.com]
From: tim@electron.mips.com (Tim Layman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: RE:  Wasted on Women???
Date: 7 Apr 1992 00:18:25 GMT
Organization: Mips Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tim@electron.mips.com (Tim Layman)
NNTP-Posting-Host: electron.mips.com

I have an '87 Corvette and rarely get it above 2500rpm. Does that mean I'm
really a woman?

	Tim

p.s. :^)

p.p.s. I also liked the idea about sending your post to Car and Driver. They
have had letters to the editor similar to yours. If you want to see your name
in print, here's your chance...

p.p.p.s. My wife is getting a 300zx. We'll have the battle of the sexes race and
let you know who wins. (I'd put my money on her...)

p.p.p.p.s I hate stereo-typing people! Can you tell? (Hey, but White Men Can't
Jump is a good movie ;^) 
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: j_schwar@oz.plymouth.edu (Jeffrey A. Schwartz)
Subject: New Camry
Reply-To: j_schwar@oz.plymouth.edu (Jew reliable its been, andffrey A. Schwartz)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 02:21:19 GMT



Hey everyone, I have a question I was hoping you could answer.  I'm
thinking about buying the new camry, and was wondering if anyone has
any experience with it.
For example,  What you paid for it, How reliable its been, and if
youve had any problems with toyota sales, or mechanical problems.
Thanx for all your responces in advance.


jeff
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: luoni@bosco.mlb.semi.harris.com (Perry Luoni)
Subject: Re: Are All Americans Stupid?
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:16:44 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

NO All Americans are not stupid.  BUT we do have some
stupid laws just like all countries.  I lived in Germany
for a while and they had plenty of stupid laws.  
The problem today is twofold.  First people want to
take all risk out of every activity, which in my opinion
would make life very boring.  Second,  people no
longer are willing to take responsibility for their
own actions and expect that everytime that something
goes wrong someone else is at fault and thus they should
be compensated (money money money).  Accident liability
has caused many fun activites to be curtailed or 
eliminated all together.  For example, Go to your nearest
apartment complex with a pool.  Odds are it dosen't have a
diving board and if it did in the past it has now been removed.
Shit! if the neighbor kid hurts himself on my swing set because he
fell off I get sued.  There are many school playgrounds that are
offlimits during non-school hours for this very reason.  These
are places where kids could be having fun and not hanging out
on streets doing drugs or getting into trouble.  
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From: robin@aus.intel.com (robin rosenbaum)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.music.misc,rec.arts.movies,alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Free magazine from subsription services.
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:59:47 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp.

In article <1992Apr6.140332.6843@oz.plymouth.edu> patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.014733.8725@tellab5.tellabs.com> 
   rgarg@tellabs.com (Rajesh Garg) writes:
                      ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>Right now, they are taking new business from present customers
>>only. So, it would help to mention my name, Roger, as
                                              ^^^^^
>Gee, funny he didn't mention that he also gets a free subscription
>for referring you -- an oversight?

That's okay, he didn't quite get his name right, either.

I always tell these guys (haven't seen any girls doing this one yet) that we
only buy from the elementary school (first thru sixth grade) fund-raisers.

Robin "Support your local 8-year-old" Hilp
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: Peter A. Cohen <peterco@eff.org>
Subject: Re: CRX [was: Re: Future Honda Accords]
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:07:58 GMT

In article  Carl Heinzl, carl@Cayman.COM writes:

>As someone once replied to a posting of mind.  When you put cars in a
>wind tunnel and try to reduce the drag, bodies BEGIN to look more and
>more similar.  Don't you wonder why *most* airplanes LOOK strikingly
>similar?

No, aerodynamic efficiency makes a lot of sense.  But there are a lot of
non-aerodynamic similarities about these cars that is overwhelming.  Even
stuff as minor as trim appointments, color combos, logo designs (compare
Mazda's new logo with Toyota's and Lexus's).


- Peter
From: mike@gilligan.Sun.COM (Mike Roncadori - Information Resources)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Using the horn
Summary: I usually watch their head.
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:28:14 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Vienna, VA.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gilligan.east.sun.com

In article <11799@sail.LABS.TEK.COM>, vinay@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Vinay Sathe) writes:
> 
> 	To avoid this, I generally do "pattern matching" of the 
> 	car and driver ahead of me by my 
> 	"stereotype" algorithm (Tm) and keep my finger on the horn 
> 	for a (not so) polite request to the person in front to get 
> 	moving. 
> 

I usually watch several things:

First, I watch what they drive like, prior to stopping at
the light (if I have the opportunity). Drivers that are
inattentive at lights are usually inattentive while in
motion, as well.

Second, I watch their head while at the light. Most attentive
drivers keep their eyes on the traffic signal, and their mirrors.
If they are doing a Stevie Wonder impression, or reaching all
over the car, chances are they are going to need a jolt back
into reality.

Finally, I watch their brakelights. If they go dim when the light
changes, then the person is most likely ready for it, and is rea-
ching for the accelerator. If they stay bright red, then the per-
son is likely asleep.

-- Mike
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup)
Subject: Re: Using the horn
Summary: a-f*ck*ng-men!
Keywords: When did it become socially unacceptable?
Organization: Software Tool&Die, (Boston), MA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:19:39 GMT

In article <rqa6jINNks6@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> mike@gilligan.Sun.COM
(Mike Roncadori - Information Resources) says:

>For those of you who might condemn me as overly agressive, I
>submit that if people had more regard for those around them,
>there would be no need for overtly agressive behavior. 

>For those of you who might condemn me as overly agressive, I
>submit that if people had more regard for those around them,
>there would be no need for overtly agressive behavior. 

>For those of you who might condemn me as overly agressive, I
>submit that if people had more regard for those around them,
>there would be no need for overtly agressive behavior. 

>For those of you who might condemn me as overly agressive, I
>submit that if people had more regard for those around them,
>there would be no need for overtly agressive behavior. 

>For those of you who might condemn me as overly agressive, I
>submit that if people had more regard for those around them,
>there would be no need for overtly agressive behavior. 

-- 
Kenny Crudup, Unix Systems Consultant	kenny@world.std.com
16 Plainfield St. Jamaica Plain, (Boston), MA 02130-3633
Home +1 617 524 5929 	Home Fax +1 617 983 9410
							Lick Bush in '92!
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From: rgarg@tellabs.com (Rajesh Garg)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.music.misc,rec.arts.movies,alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Free magazine from subsription services.
Date: 6 Apr 92 01:47:33 GMT
Organization: Tellabs, Inc.


I came across a company called "COLLEGETOWN MAGAZINE
SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE" in New York.

Right Now they are offering this special offer:

You can call them and either give them the address
label info from your old subscription or ask them a
free trial offer subscription for one full year with
a purchase of any magazine.

They will send you any magazine (out of 1200 different
titles) for one year free. After that they will request you
to subscribe thru them at the lowest price. If you don't
want anything just say no and they won't act as pests
and keep on sending you their advertisement.

Right now, they are taking new business from present customers
only. So, it would help to mention my name, Roger, as
present customer.

TELEPHONE NUMBER 1(800) 433-1357.
From area codes: 212, 516, 718, 914 CALL (718) 967-1234
FAX NUMBER       1(718) 967-1144.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
No flames because if you don't want a free magazine, don't
call them. If you want a free magazine, call them. In either
case you don't loose anything.
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
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From: mlh@abcom.ATT.COM (XXXX Mark Hampton )
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.music.misc,rec.arts.movies,alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Free magazine from subsription services.
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:35:29 GMT
Organization: AT&T(IMS-DPO), Aurora, Colorado

From article <1992Apr6.014733.8725@tellab5.tellabs.com>, by rgarg@tellabs.com (Rajesh Garg):
# 
# I came across a company called "COLLEGETOWN MAGAZINE
# SUBSCRIPTION SERVICE" in New York.
# 
# Right Now they are offering this special offer:
# 
# You can call them and either give them the address
# label info from your old subscription or ask them a
# free trial offer subscription for one full year with
# a purchase of any magazine.
# 
# They will send you any magazine (out of 1200 different
# titles) for one year free. After that they will request you
# to subscribe thru them at the lowest price. If you don't
# want anything just say no and they won't act as pests
# and keep on sending you their advertisement.
# 
# Right now, they are taking new business from present customers
# only. So, it would help to mention my name, Roger, as
# present customer.
# 
# %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
# No flames because if you don't want a free magazine, don't
# call them. If you want a free magazine, call them. In either
# case you don't loose anything.
# %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

I seem to remeber this advertisment comming across the net a few months
back, maybe in forsale.computers or something like that.  Apparently
everything is not what it seems with either the company or the people
pushing it on the net, as I recall it is not as free as these folks let
on.  Be carefull.

As far as I am concerned, these advertisments are not welcome here.

Mark Hampton
Denver Data Center
From: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Are all Americans Stupid???
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:29:08 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Apr15.015900.29149@xcluud.sccsi.com> paul@xcluud.sccsi.com (Paul Hutmacher) writes:
>solution to the Arab Oil Embargo back in the seventies.  I actually prefer
>Bush's solution to middle eastern crisises (crisi? crises?) but that's 
>another story.
>
>Besides, we don't drive 55 in Texas.  We never really did.
>
   But you must admit that Texans tend to be more properly
   disrespectful of politicians and bureaucrats in general
   than some of the sheeplike 55 mentality types you hear bleating
   all the time....
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ac579@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (G.C.J. Timm)
Subject: Re: Breaking in cars
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:11:40 GMT


A long high-speed run (without constant speed control) used to
be the recommended method for breaking in a new car.

I really wouldn't worry about it.  Your Saturn will be fine.

Jeff
Who drove his New 1980 Dodge Colt RS from Cleveland to Kentucky
and the engine ran fine.  The Car just got smashed by Detroit
Iron and sabotaged by Dodge.

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: ac579@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (G.C.J. Timm)
Subject: Re: Need feedback on Integra RS, Saturn SL2, Escort LXE/Tracer
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:41:14 GMT


If you are looking for cars under 12 K, I suggest getting a
copy of Car and Driver, June 1990.

They tested eleven cars under 13,000.

Be aware that the winner, Dodge Colt GT, was cancelled immediately
after winning.  Because Chrysler hates good cars, especially their
own and will discontinue or drop anything that looks like it might
be a good car...

Jeff
Who is also looking in the 12K range, but wants a 4-door sedan.
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