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From: ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Recommendations needed for Shaw's Lightweight Cycles
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:56:18 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Sep10.171440.7340@PA.dec.com> klee@wsl.dec.com writes:
>|> Other good stores I've heard good things about are: Wheelsmith (Palo
>|> Alto), Palo Alto Bicycles, and CycleCraft (Cupertino).  I've also been
>|> told to avoid Bicycle Outfitter.
>
>I've always been satisfied with the service and quality of merchandise
>at Wheelsmith, PA Bicycles, and even Bicycle Outfitter.  The latter
>does cater to racers and other serious riders, though, so they carry
>very little low end stuff.

The problem with BO is that their idea of a "serious rider" is someone who
spends a lot of money on his bike, not someone who rides a lot.  I think of
them as the quintessential "jersey pro" shop.

There's nothing wrong with this, BTW, as shops have a right to make money.
But I prefer places like Wheelsmith, which in my experience and that of 
others seem to treat all customers more equally, and in addition to respect
people with a real commitment to bicycling either as a sport or as a mode of
transportation.  Not that they don't cater to the "parade" crowd, as Jobst
calls them -- someone has to pay the bills.

All the above is IMHO -- of course.
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			   	 me, so I can share only mine with you"
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: freytag@seas.gwu.edu (Richard Freytag)
Subject: Re: Rans Stratus Recumbent
Followup-To: freytag@seas.gwu.edu
Keywords: bicycle, recumbent
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:07:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.184359.978@lgc.com> brady@lgc.com (W. Brady Reed) writes:
>
>Fellow 'benters,
>
>	I have found a slightly used Rans Stratus B recumbent bike.  It
>has high-end components and seems to be a good deal to me.  However, I
>have not heard anyone mention the bad or good characteristics of this
>bike.  Does anyone have any experience with this bike?
>
>Thanks,
>Brady
>breed@lgc.com

I have heard these are very fast and light bikes.  If you are able to spend
a couple of hours in the seat you will find that is the best discriminator. 
There is much more variation in seat/ride comfort among recumbents than
among diamond frames.  

If you don't want the bike I'd like to contact the owner.  I have noticed
that it is pretty easy to resell 'bents. 

-Richard Freytag
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:22392 rec.bicycles.racing:154
From: sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk (Stewart T Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.racing
Subject: RESULTS: Tour of Catalonia
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:30:32 GMT
Reply-To: sfleming@cs.hw.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. Of Computing and Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Edinburgh


Tour of Catalonia (Stage 2, Lleida, Spain. 202km)

1. L. Jalabert (Fr) 5hr 21min 11sec (37.75 kph; 23.59 mph)
2. J. Koerts (Neth)
3. J. Gonzalex (Sp)
4. M. Hermans (Neth)
5. W. Nillsen (Neth)
6. C. Moreda (Sp)
7. M. Fondriest (It)
8. M. Manzoni (It)
9. A. Edo (Sp)
10. M. Vermote (Bel) all same time

Overall

1.  A. Zulle (Swit) 5hr 37min 57sec
2. J. Bruyneel (Belg)
3. M. Mauri (Sp)
4. J. Llanera (Sp) all same time

Sorry I missed the results of the first stage.  Also, we don't have
the new rec.bicycles newsgroups here yet, so I have to post to the old group.

Other news : Greg Lemond has been diagnosed as having a urinary infection
which was weakening him.  So I guess that means you can all stop
taking the piss out of him.

RMO team has collapsed and dissolved following a clumsy fraud involving the
manager, the owner an 'Arab sheik' and 5.3 million francs.

Coming up:  Nissan Classic, Paris-Tours, Paris-Brussels.

STF
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   a lot of words when a simple 'yup' will do"  -mid-west fishing ethic
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: grande@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (brad.l.grande)
Subject: Re: Thoughts
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:00:35 GMT

In article <9SEP199214031218@muvaxe.rferl.org>, brockr@muvaxe.rferl.org (Train, Learn, Climb, Ride) writes:
>   Because I work a full time job I don't get as near enough saddle time as I
> would want.  And, because I live outside of Munich by the time I get home
> at night, in the Autumn/Winter, it's already dark, so that shoots cycling time
> all to hell.
>   What really bothers me is the fact that I would really like to train a lot
> more yet, for the stated reasons, I can't.  Which is a bit of a dilemna for
> me.  (I realise it's all psychological but, that realization is no help).  
>   I would certainly cycle at night but, because I own several "racing" bikes,
> which don't have lights installed, and because it is illegal in this country
> to ride a bike, at any time without lights, reflectors, bells, fog horns etc.,
> I don't bother.

Richard,
If you want to cycle more during the winter, you have to bother.  You can build
a homebrew lighting system very cheaply that will outperform commercially
available ones.  Install it on one bike and leave it there.

To increase your in saddle time while consumming less additional time then your
saddle time, BICYCLE COMMUTE to work.  My commute is 25 miles (~41km) each way.
It takes me 1hr 40minutes to ride my bike each way and 40minutes to drive my
car.  I get up and leave for work before my family is up so my morning commute
does not eat into any family time (just some of my sleep time).  Therefore,
I get 50miles of riding in for about 1hr extra time a day.  A pretty good
investment of my time!

>   So, I humbly ask all you folk out there, what could I do?  I mean, I ride
> as much on the weekends as possible but, it's still not enough.  I WANT
> MORE.  Or perhaps, should I give up cycling and maybe take to kite-flying?

I can't argue with your choice of kites, I fly a stack of 6 foot flexi's but
cannot fly them while I ride, and all I get from them is a rush, and I can
forget about the world for a while, but it does nothing for my physical
fitness.

> I guess one point would be if there's a way of obtaining some sort of 
> detachable lighting system for the bikes, visible from front and rear? 
> Here in Germany, there is no such a thing.  Is there such a thing?

I have seen a system advertized in the back of VeloNews that fits on the
bike like a frame pump under the top tube with a front and rear light.  I
know nothing more than that, but somehow I think that it was from Germany.

Look around, stuff is available.

Brad Grande	WB0OYX
Another bike riding beer brewing kite flying amateur radio operator who
	still likes CD's!

AT&T Bell Labs
Naperville Illinausea
PLEASE SEND RESPONSES TO:	grande@iwtil.att.com
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(708)-979-7853
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From: blp@cypress.com (Bruce Prickett/PROM)
Subject: Re: women working on bikes
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 22:57:47 GMT

in <DAVE.92Sep4224401@pipi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp>
dave@pipi.iis.u-tokyo.ac.jp (David Wuertele) says:

>The natural-bias hypothesis takes on mythical proportions, even (perhaps
>especially) in that segment of society which should consider itself most
>responsible:  the technically educated.  Jobst, you didn't mention having
>any daughters, and you did mention not having worked with any women engineers.
>Well I may eventually have daughters, and I do have many woman friends in
>science and engineering.  For their sake, please, do not "resign yourself
>to this apparent fact and leave it be."

I say RIGHT ON DAVE! DITTO!

To me, it's OK to talk about your own experiences, such as 
"My wife/husband/S.O. won't wear a helmet", but I think we
should all refrain from making generalisations about groups.

Bruce Prickett
blp@cypress.com
From: steve@niwot.forests (Steve)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: WANTED: mountain bike and info
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:34:08 GMT
Reply-To: steve@niwot.forests
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

Haven't had a chance to try the gt (earthquake?) my wife has the 
spec. stumpjumper fs - loves it, beats the snot out of it, no problems yet,
its a dx equiped front suspension bike. they are selling for around $900 if you can 
find em. when i get my next bike (soon :)) i'll be looking at these. any other 
suggestions on $1000 front suspension dx (or md) bikes?
From: BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Removing frozen freewheel
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:44:50 GMT

Rudy Walter writes:

> Problem is that the freewheel (screw on type not the cassette type) is
> frozen and I have partially stripped the raised steel edge on which
> the freewheel removing tool is supposed to seat itself.

Since the freewheel is damaged beyond repair, and cannot be reasonably
be removed if you were to use it again, follow the procedure suggested
by Bob Schwartz and remove the body by unscrewing the cone cap.  The cap
has two holes on which a large nail with point can be used to drive it
off its left hand thread using a hammer.  A pin wrench usually will not
remove this cap.  Use a vise of pipe wrench to unscrew to unscrew the
core of the freewheel from your hub.  It has a right hand thread.

After replacing the spoke, remember to stress relieve all the spokes
because this will reveal other ones that are near failure as well as
stress relieving the one just installed.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: trailrdr@well.sf.ca.us (Alan Goldman)
Subject: MTB Land Access 
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:22:56 GMT


Does MTB land access information still go here in rec.bicycles, or
is there somewhere else I should look for this subject?
From: deb1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DERRICK ERNEST BOUCHER)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Scotchlite question
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:00:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Hello all,

        I was wondering if anyone on the net knows of a way to obtain
Scotchlite (tm) in bulk quantities.( i.e. "by the yard") We've all got
bits and pieces of this reflective fabric on seatpacks, shoes, panniers,
etc. and it's a great help for nightime visibility. But I'd like to sew
large patches of the stuff on some of my outerwear, packs etc. I figure
one or two square yards of the stuff ought to be plenty. If anyone knows
how I could get my hands on such a quantity, E-mail or post the info.

                                                Thanks
                                                Derrick

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Organization: Junior, History, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:23:36 -0400 
From: "Christopher L. McGee" <cm3w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: GT Titanium for sale

For sale in >John's closet blowout::

1990-91 GT Xizang 20" titanium/cro mo rear triangle frameset.   Very
stiff, very light.  Comes with fillet brazed cro/mo forks, bottom
bracket, tioga seat  post, and tange headset.   recently purchased. 
very pretty, very well taken care of.   $725.    Direct questions to
cm3w+@andrew.cmu.edu  or serious inquiries to john at 412-247-4969. 
(it's john's frame, so he's who you should really talk to)
From: au109@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Donating Blood when Commuting by Bike
Date: 13 Sep 1992 11:03:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


>  This Wednesday I'll be donating blood.  I commute to work via bike most
>  of the time, and the question is, does anyone know how losing a unit of
>  blood will affect my ride home?  Should I wimp out and drive that day?
>
>  My commute is 10.5 miles each way; it normally takes 40-45 minutes with
>  lights.  I weigh about 160 (5'8").  I am in good shape, but I'm not a
>  racer: I cruise at about 15 - 16 (flat no wind) without breaking much of
>  a sweat or breathing heavilly.  This is on an LL Bean Acadia (cheap ATB),
>  with a lead-alloy frame.

You don't mention the timing of the donation vs. the trip home.  Blood
centers recommend no strenuous exercise for the 24 hours after donation.
I gave a unit of blood this past Friday afternoon and was out for an
intensive off-road ride Saturday morning, but that gave me over twelve
hours to recuperate.  I'd guess that you could still commute as long as
you have a few hours between the two events.  I'd also recommend drinking
lots of fluids before the return trip, and a casual commute home.  The
most serious problem you could have with insufficient fluids in you is
to faint.  The only other problem could be too much flexing of the
arm causing bleeding.

Then again, with a __lead__-alloy frame, I guess that your bike must
weigh 150 lb.  Maybe you should drive 8-)

	=Craig=
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From: brockr@muvaxa.rferl.org (Train, Learn, Climb, Ride)
Subject: Helmets
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Radio Free Europe
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:25:00 GMT

  Hi all,

  I noted a couple of posted messages referring to the fact that most
bicycle fatalities in the states are caused by collisions with the four-
wheeled monstrosities?  For what it's worth; 90% of all injuries/fatalaties
to ADULT cyclists in this country are caused by the lack of wearing a helmet 
and NOT colliding with a motorist but, with either another cyclist or the 
ground.
(Motorist/Cyclist collisions are not that common here probably, to a large
part, for the reasons explained below).
I'm not writing this to espouse the use of helmets whilst riding as I feel
this is purely a personal decision but, the facts in this country speak for
themselves.
  I believe that more injuries/fatalities are NOT caused here by auto/bike
collisions because Germany has a very extensive, and well maintained,  bike 
path network throughout the country.  (By bike path I mean well-paved and 
maintained roadways for cyclist use only.  Although there are some roadways 
that are shared with pedestrians.)
  It also seems that motorists here are used to seeing a large amount of
cyclists on the road, those not using the bike paths, and take this as
the norm.  Most motorists here are extremely careful when cruising past
cyclists.  (That excludes your "typical" BMW drivers who usually drive
insaneley anyway.)


  Thus spoke Zarathustra!
  Richard Brock
  RADIO FREE EUROPE/RADIO LIBERTY
  MUNICH, GERMANY
  @BROCKR.RFERL.ORG
From: BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Hubs built for straight spokes
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:16:18 GMT

Art LaValle writes;

> BTW _ I originally put a posting on this group asking for opinions on
> the "Straight Spoke Hub" marketed under the name Pulstar. I've yet to
> see any responses. I have noticed that there are a number of postings
> concerning "straight spoke" and I suspect these are orthogonal threads
> originating from a response to my original query about the Pulstar Hubs.

I happened to drop by the local shop where one of these hubs was waiting
to be laced up.  I didn't see the results but if I recall correctly, it
had less than 36 spokes because there would otherwise have been gridlock
at the hub.  The inner and outer spokes are spaced slightly farther apart
than they would be from a standard 3 mm flange.  Only one spoke pattern
is practical (not a problem) and the hub is slightly heavier than a
conventional hub because the bosses that receive the spokes are fairly
thick.

It looks like a reasonable solution and it permits spoke replacement
without removing the freewheel.  Of course this should not be necessary
if elbow failures were the only ones that occur.  As it turns out, spokes
these days should break about equally easily at either end and this they
should do rarely.  The reason I say this is that the DT spokes I have been
riding for many years (I'll have to find out when I got then some day)
have survived 4 sets of rims, and are on their fifth, for mileage that it
well over 50K but since I am not a book keeper on such matters I'll just
give them a lower bound.

The problem with these hubs is that they require ungainly machining to
drill the spoke holes and replacement spokes are not easily found.
Therefore, a broken spoke with these hubs, even if they occurred rarely,
could be a more serious failure than a conventional spoke failure.  I
know nothing of their price.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tmoore@hpbs2658.boi.hp.com (Tom Moore Jr)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: WIFE doesn't wear helmet...
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:20:58 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard

In article <92246.231501ERSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, Eric Schweitzer <ERSHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
|> >#2 Re wife not maintaining the bike: almost all respondents suggested that I
|> >do it. The best response was: "Would you trust her doing the maintanance
|> >anyway? Don't you want her to be {\it safe\/}?" OK guys (and some gals), you
|> >convinced me; from now on (as in the past, and just like with her car etc.)
|> >I'll do the tires and the chains etc. (Question to the ladies: does {\it any
|> >of you} ever maintain your own bike?
|> 
|> (Why is there TeX (or TeX) in a netnews post?)
|> 
|> In 20 years of bike shop work, I have worked with quite a few women
|> who were quite capable mechanics. Two stand out. One, a co-owner,
|> was one of the fastest flat fixers I knew, and wrote a 'care and feeding
|> of your bike' manual that we distributed with each new bike. The second
|> was one mechanic in a 6 mechanic shop I managed. She was the
|> only mechanic I know who went to mechanic school. Although not the fastest
|> of workers (this was her first season), she did think about the problems
|> confronting her, and had a very low return rate.
|> 
|> I don't know the origonal poster (can't even find the origonal post)
|> but I'd bet any one of the half dozen women mechanics I've worked with
|> can adjust derailuers and bearings and true wheels and... a heck of a
|> lot better than he can. Clearly, he hangs with the wrong crowd.


Hey, you boneheads are MISSING the point of the original post.  The poster
had valid concerns regarding his wife's ability to properly service her bike.
I know darn good and well my wife wouldn't be able to, but ONLY because she
isn't trained nor has any inkling to learn.  The argument here is not 
whether or not your wife has the intelligence to maintain here own bike,
but rather that she has no desire to learn.  I would gather that most wifes
would be good mechanics, but they are just not interested. 

If I catch any crap from a woman's libber with this post  you can just peddle
your crap elsewhere.

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From: dguillor@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Doug Guillory)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:07:34 GMT
Subject: MASI FOR SALE
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles

MASI FOR SALE
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SELLA SAN MARCO ROLLS SADDLE, STRONG SEATPOST, TIME PEDALS 

BEAUTIFUL CONDITION  NEVER CRASHED
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WITH DURA ACE HUBS CAMPY TUBULAR RIMS   $800
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PLEASE CALL DON'T MAIL

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From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Hyperglide chain replacement: suggestions wanted
Keywords: n
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:55:58 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek

In article <1992Sep9.163944.29483@pt.com> rkd@pt.com (Ray Downes) writes:
>(Chris Moll) writes:
>	Keith Erskine writes:
>		(Michael S. Wong) writes:
>		
>			I've found that both a Sedis SL and a
>			Campy-Rohloff shift a HG cassette better than
>			an HG-70, HG-90, or HG-91 chain (I haven't
>			tried an HG DA Chain).
>
>
>		I found just the opposite, that the Sedis SL did not
>		shift as well as an HG-90 chain.
>
>	Are y'all comparing the same thing - ie., a new, clean, lubed
>	chain on clean cogs?  I'm sure a clean Sedissport chain would
>	shift better than a dirty Hyperglide chain and vice versa.
>
>For me, the Sedisport worked better - from the postings I've seen there
>seems to be roughly a 50/50 balance one way or another. One detail I
>personally didn't try was to readjust the indexed posistion of the
>derailler from one chain to another - maybe this accounts for the
>difference?

I've had very good luck with the Union 900 and DID SuperShift.  Both shifted
well on my Hyperglide-equipped Bridgestone XO-2.  Unfortunately, both
chains are somewhat difficult to find.

>Ray Downes, Performance Technologies Incorporated		rkd@pt.com
>315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620		  
>Voice - (716) 256-0200, FAX (716) 256-0791


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From: david@wmms.UUCP (David R. Mayne)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Hubs built for straight spokes
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:33:20 GMT
Organization: University of Absurdity

In article <9209021949.AA01823@hplomg.hpl.hp.com> BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM writes:
>Tom Kunich writes:
>
>> I'll probably try them for my next road bike. Mountain bikes don't
>> break spokes if you're running good wheels.
>
>Now this is a novel idea.  Am I to assume that spokes only break on
>road bikes, from this statement.  I would like to hear more on this.
>Why are MTB wheels less subject to failures and what causes them in
>one kind of wheel and not another?
>

I have had 4 broken spokes on my mountain bike over 5 years, though
one was caused by a stick in the rear wheel. The others were on older
and well used wheels, and the failures appeared to be fatigue related.
If you ride your mountain bike enough, you will probably break a spoke
or two, as on a road bike.


-- 
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david@wmms.UUCP        (404) 876-0943        ...!gatech!bagend!wmms!david
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