From: misra@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Boo!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: India vs. Bangladesh (Re: We Need A Hindu-Muslim Dialog)
Date: 16 Apr 1992 15:33:45 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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>
>Clearly, "highly" is a very relative term.  In India, we witness major
>riots every year in which thousands of Muslims perish.  In Kashmir,

	That is sooo one sided, I cannot believe you are saying this.

>for example, this happens almost on a daily basis and has become an
>accepted state of affairs, as if it is the most natural thing in the

	How come you dont talk of the many many many attacks carried
out by JKLF and how they have made a organized effort to drive 
all the hindus out of kashmir? Humm.. like i said.. you are 
one sided in this.

>world.  Riots with fatalities are commonplace in India -- one needs
>only open a newspaper to note that.  In comparison, Bangladesh has

	Fatalities are a common place everywhere. It is not 
restricted to just india.

>witnessed very few riots in its history.  You correctly point to the
>Babri Masjid example in noting that there were some riots relating to
>that in Bangladesh.  But you will note that that is the only example
>you could come up with for the simple reason that it *is* the only
>example in recent years.  The riots were quickly supressed and there
>haven't been any problems since then.

	Yes..yes.. you lived under a dictorship for soo many years. 
How could you even know what is going on. The russians were also led
to believe that mother russia was doing fine, look what they 
found out.

>
>Unlike in India, where there are large Muslim communities, Hindus in
>Bangladesh generally do not live in ghettos or their own communities.
				  ^^^^^^^^^^
	You mean to say only muslims live in ghettos in india. 

>
>This is a figure claimed by the Indian government.  The Bangladesh
>government claims different figures.  Whom are we to believe?  Since
>India is offering free training to the terrorist organization Shanti
>Bahini, it makes sense that they operate from Indian territory, which
>is why they are present in India in large numbers.

	so what, BD is traning terrorist in its territories. many 
ultras have confessed that they were tranined in Bd. Your statement
doent make sense and only shows that you was to ignore what is going
on.

>
>to other things, or were they burned down in riots such as the ones we
>witness in India?

	Details please.. dont just generalize. I just love it when i am 
like you :-) 

>
>I do not have any statistics to prove you wrong or right.  But it
>seems questionable to me that you point to temple destruction in
>Bangladesh (the 100 figure seems inflated to me) when the very cause
	
	Yes..yes.. it has to seem inflated to you. Ofcourse is 
someone said 100 mosques were destroyed in india you would 
believe them. Oh yes.. i forgot, last time i read something on this 
group I was told India in seen as an evil in Bd. sorry.. I understand
now.

>Does this necessarily mean that there is an organized effort to drive
>minorities out?

	you have any other explainations?

>
>Consider the various minorities in India and the causes they are
>fighting for, Khalistan, Nagaland, liberation of Assam, Kashmir, the

	Humm.. let us start from the top: Khalistan is no longer a dream
for anyone. Even the groups who are suppose to be fighting for it.
The groups have split into soo many factions that it doesnt make 
sense anymore. And the terrorists have come to terms withthe fatc 
that fighting isnt going to get them anywhere. Many have started
to surrender. Nagaland is also a lost cause. They dont even know
what they want. In assam, due to the great amry action, many have 
given up and the cause itself is looseing ground. Kashmir
is a recent problem, which has been started for political reasons.

>list is endless.  You would like us to belive that they all have a
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	Do add somemore to the list. Dont stop...

>collective voice?  Obviously not.  Then why is it that we hear so much
>more about them?  The reason why we hear more about repression of
>minorities in India than in Bangladesh is because, on a relative
>scale, the occurences are considerably more frequent in India.  This
>does not mean that repression does not occur in Bangladesh, but my

	It doesnt occur .. or you dont hear about it. you dont hear
anything about repression in china.. does that mean it doesnt happen?

>original claim never was that.  My original claim was that tension
>with minorities is less pronounced in Bangladesh and Malaysia than in
>India.
	
	But if you are talking about relative scale, then you mean to say
that if Bd was as big as India and had the same make up, it would also 
have the same problems? Humm.. interesting. So.. basically
relatively things are natural as they as happening. Good..

>
>Statistics, as I'm sure we all know, can be used in all sorts of ways
>to show all kinds of things, often in misleading ways.  Do the above

	HA!.. i wont even comment. I have seen it all. 

>statistics imply discrimination?  Not necessarily.  If there is

	I am sure if you say the same for India you would cry 
foul.. you cannot deny that.

		Rest well brother..rest well.. untill your nest posting.>
>
>-- Shakil


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