HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Katana oil filter -- how special is the tool?
Keywords: oil filter, katana, special tool
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:39:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

In article <27JUL199204091736@erich.triumf.ca> ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid) writes:
>In article <76607@ut-emx.uucp>, captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes...
>>In article <21JUL199223343335@erich.triumf.ca> ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid) writes:
>>>
>>> [poster asks about tool to _install_ oil filter]
>> 
>>Eeeek!  Oil filters should only be put on hand tight.  You don't need ANY
>>tools to *install* one, but you might need an oil filter wrench to *remove* 
>>one if you aren't real strong. 
>> 
>	(Should I say this?  Oh, well, just once...)
>BBZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTT!!! Wrong answer!
>(Hot damn!  I'm starting to sound like a Yank.  Maybe that guy in alt.fan.goons
>was right.)
>
>	Official installation procedure for the filter is to turn it until the
>o-ring just contacts the mating surface, and then to turn it _TWO FULL TURNS_

 Ivan, the original respondent is not necessarily in error. At least,
 not until you can demonstrate that the average person cannot turn
 the oil filter two full turns after initial contact. They probably
 can. Two full turns may well approximate to hand-tight (this is
 difficult to quantify for the manufacturers - see explanation below).

 It's a very common mistake to overtighten oil filters and filter housings.

 Free advice:
 ------------
 
 When installing, make sure that the mating surfaces are free of 
 contaminants. Check that the o-ring (if used) is in excellent condition.
 Any sign of pinching, or hardness (old) and it should be replaced. Make
 sure that it is properly seated before installing. Lube the mating 
 surfaces with fresh oil (just a little bit all the way around).

 Turn the filter until it seats firmly. This is one of those "feel" 
 things. Basically, spin it on until it seats and then turn it (with 
 one hand and no tools!) until you are exerting a fair bit of force
 (and not all your body weight). This should allow you to remove
 it without having to destroy it.

 After you have done this a couple of times successfully, it's a good
 idea to mark the filter housing and block so that you know just 
 how far to turn it (in case you should for some reason suffer
 severe brainfade - a condition known to occur after the first
 sixpack :->).

 Stefan

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From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: Wet, Tired and Home!
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:20:34 GMT
Reply-To: Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it. 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <1992Jul28.210730.15540@athena.cs.uga.edu>, weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu (Mike Weaver) writes:

|> 
|> I don't know about the fuel pump. Was that the thing that whined so loud?
|> 

On a BMW-K the fuel pump does make a funny noise, but not a whine 
not for lond at a time.  The constant whirring sound that would be
audible over 'Tude's  V-twin's mellifluous rumbling is the cam chain.  
Some Yamahoppers sound the same.  

It's *not* a whine.

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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Speeding, a survey
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:24:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Jul21.182437.923
Distribution: usa
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Jul21.141809.22633@wam.umd.edu> delilah@next03epsl.wam.umd.edu (Mere words can't convey the real me) writes:
>> (As an aside, this is why it's typically difficult for Joe Speed Phreak  
>to
>>  fuel his supercharged 'Cuda at the local airport - unless the FBO has
>>  the accounting mechanisms in place to distinguish between aviation and
>>  highway fuel, it may be illegal for them to dispense gas into anything
>>  but an aircraft.)
>> --
>not to mention the fact that it wouldn't be such a good idea; propeller  
>craft use MUCH higher octane fuel than ground vehicles, and jets use much  
>LOWER; in fact, jet fuel is cruder than diesel, because the jet engine  
>(unlike the prop' engine) doesn't work by driving a piston...

Well, actually, _my_ propellor craft is designed to run on 80 octane.
(Though octane ratings are not the same for avgas as for auto fuel,
I think I read a while back....)  Most piston aircraft built after the
mid-sixties or so want 100 octane.  Jet fuel is another name for
kerosene.  The aviation insurance industry sponsored a movement a
few years ago to replace jet fuel nozzles with a wider design that won't
fit in most gas fuel filler holes.  Typically a jet fueled piston plane
has enough relatively pure gas in the fuel system to taxi to the runway
and get started on the takeoff roll.  When the jet fuel hits the engine
under takeoff power conditions, the cylinders tend to blow up.


(I could have been a nit picker and talked about turboprop engines..... :-*)


--
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  -   "Worth Reposession"
DoD #094,  PBF #03  "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
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From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: New England Accident
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:31:22 GMT

I haven't seen anything about this on the group yet, so I'm assuming it's
been confined to the nedod mainling list.

Forwarded without permission:

From: artc@Atex.Kodak.COM (Art Campbell)
Subject: Alex Volanis update
Errors-To: nedod-request
Reply-To: artc@Atex.Kodak.COM (Art Campbell)
Cc: nedod


The last bulletin I've gotten from the University hospital on
Alex Volanis' condition:

No brain damage.
Fractured vertabrae.
Skull fracture (seems minor, above right eye -- maybe
pass-through impact from helmet on car or pavement????)

Surgery is scheduled for next week, but I don't know
what the aim of the surgery is.

Alex seems to be paralized; I don't know the extent or
whether it's temporary or permanent.

Apparently the fractrued vertabrae is a factor; I'm guessing
the surgery will do something about it.

I'm trying to get info on how people can donate blood to
his account; we'll be doing something here at the company and
I'll pass info along. (The blood's needed for surgery).

____
Emerging accident details:

The rain had stopped; I don't know if the pavement was still wet
or not. It happened at 8:15, so I'm assuming it was night-time
dark rather than dusk dark.

Alex was moving south on Middlesex Turnpike; he had a green light at
the Route 62 intersection. A north-bound car turned left in front of
him to go west on 62.

Alex seems to have tried to swerve around her, I think by swerving left.
The bike went down. Alex became separated from the bike. The bike slid on its
side and stopped, I guess Alex rolled -- into the side of the car.
>From the injuries, I'm guessing Alex's back hit the car.

The driver "didn't see him." (Where have I heard this before?)

The bike was drivable, according to the tow company.


____
And thanks, on Alex's behalf for the interest and messages!

Art
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Art Campbell          artc@atex.kodak.com            72227.1375@compuserve.com
   DoD 358                                  _Real_ BMWs have just two wheels.
    "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
     and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
                      All the usual disclaimers apply.

---End forwarded message.

Be careful out there, ok people?

Dean
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| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "Nothing is as over rated as a bad fuck or as       | '81 CB750C            |
| under rated as a good shit" -Laszlo Nemeth, DoD #666| '88 Bianchi Limited   |
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From: deanc@apex.com (Dean Crane)
Subject: Re: Ridership doubles on ride to work day
Organization: Apex Computer Company
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:36:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.161331.258@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mwallace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace) writes:
> 
> Well I'd say the ride to work day campaign was a hugh monumental
> success.  Today there are two bikes in the motorcycle parking
> area where I work, yesterday there was one.  No one I talked
> to about it had heard of it (no riders that is).  I didn't
> notice any increase here in Colorado Springs, How about
> anywhere else?
> 
> Mark Wallace, Castle Rock, CO
> 

Normally I'm just a fair weather rider, but I braved the rain and
rode to work.  I was the only one where I work. I didn't notice an
increase on the rode either, but then it was raining.

Dean Crane                        '81 CB900F
uunet!apex.com!deanc              '81 CB900F
Dod #0631

You know that feeling when you're leaning back on a stool and it starts to tip 
over?  Well, that's how I feel all the time.
-- Steven Wright
From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: cars-v-bikes
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:08:39 GMT
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Jul28.191005.1415@tac.fi> tiok_jtk@tac.fi writes:
>> 1)   how does the braking performance of todays supersports 750`s
>> compare with cars.

Check the July 1992 motorcyclist for a good comparison of braking distances
between light weight high performane sports cars and heavier touring
bikes (BMW K100, ST1100, FJ1200) with ABS. In all cases the car stops faster.
>> 
>> 2)   will such a supersports motocycle take a corner faster than
>> a comparable super car.

I guess we will have to try it to find out.
>> 
>> any comments/figures out there, purely as a matter of interest.

>I don't know any facts about the cars, but Kawasaki ZX-11 can do 60-0 (mph)
>in 129 feet. Of course it takes more with car, because a car is a LOT heavier
>than a bike.

I hope these Facts are right, but if I remember correctly 65-0 on the
sports tourers with ABS took a lot more then 129 feet.
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: When to change oil?
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:07:51 GMT

In article <21723@sybase.sybase.com> leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey Oster) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.155002.5877@visus.com> Jer@visus.com writes:
>>oil every few months..... your help would be greatly appriciated, as would any  
>>more clues as to how to obtain a DOD number....
>>
>>thanx
>>
>>jer
>
>Hey, c'mon!  I've only been in this newsgroup a week, and I already
>got mine.  All you have to do is read the DoDFAQ and use *only a few* of
>your synapses!
>
>I can see it: the perpetual twilight of the grid, lit only by the
>fleeting foxfire of random daemons; the shambling seekers, lost and
>unaware of the presences of the rest, searching ever searching for that
>dim, remote node where dwells ... THE KEEPER.  Cry not unto thy gods,
>oh pathetic one, for they shall not hear you; cry not unto the
>Denizens, for truly they shall have no pity, nor shall they answer thy
>weeping with aught but reeking brimstone.  Only by thine own wit and
>daring shalt thou attain that for which thou seekest.  I'faith.
>Forsooth.  Odd's bodkins, god's teeth and pizzle stick.

My goodness!  Only here a week, and Leigh Ann has already earned a
permanent place in the hearts of Denizens everywhere.
Oh, to be in love again!


>	- Leigh Ann
>--
>Leigh Ann Hussey Oster
>leighann@sybase.com			DoD#5913	AMA#624549
>Siobhan ni hEodhusa

What she said.

>"They're mine!  All mine!  And what's mine is mine!" - Daffy Duck

And what he said, too.  (Actually, it's a buck-and-a-quarterstaff.)
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Your Favorite Gear
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:40:32 GMT
Reply-To: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <22022@venera.isi.edu> jwills@ISI.EDU (Jerry Wills) writes:
|	5th @ redline, nothing else feels like that.

  Well, if that's all you've got, I suppose you got to live with it... :-)

Randy Davis				UUCP: megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot		 	      ucsd!megatek!randy
DoD #00013
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pbh@fico.uucp
Subject: 1987 Honda CBR600F Hurricane for sale cheap
Organization: The Fair, Isaac Companies
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 20:49:39 GMT




	1987 HONDA CBR 600F HURRICANE FOR SALE CHEAP $2400 obo !!!
	==========================================================


	1987 HONDA CBR 600F Hurricane

	White & Red. Looks good but not perfect (No fairing lowers).
	Runs & rides excellent. Needs nothing. Registered 'til March 93.

	50,000 miles on bike, but engine is new (less than 20k miles), and bike
	has been substantially rebuilt/refurbished. Front and rear suspension 
	is new. Many other new parts: throttle tube and cables, clutch cable, 
	front brake master cylinder, bushings and bearings, rear wheel cush
        drive, etc, etc. (All the stuff that makes an old bike feel old).
	New Dunlop K591R's. Factory Jet Kit and Shift Kit (no missed shifts).

	This is a great bike, I'm just ready to upgrade to a newer model.

	Must Sell, make offer. Might throw in Corbin seat to clinch the deal.

	Send E-mail or call Peter (415) 491-5203 dys (415) 459-7746 eves.
From: zebee@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet questions (prices etc.)
Date: 21 Jul 92 05:49:06 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) writes:


> Some idiots in Australia managed to pass a law outlawing black helmets,
>back a few years ago.  I guess they slept through third grade science
>class.

*** Urban legend alert ****

No law was ever passed banning black helmets.  

This legend arose because a safety report suggested that black
helmets may be less safe, and some gung ho cops took that to mean
that they were illegal.

I can remember a bloke being booked for wearing a black helmet, 
and the cops had to apologise becuase it was *not* illegal.

Also, at the time black helmets were not commercially available, so 
if you wanted one you had to paint it.  People often removed or painted
over the Australian Standard sticker, and a helmet had to have
one of these to be legal, so some people got done for that.

However it has never been illegal to wear a black helmet in Oz if the
helmet complied with the relevant Australian standards.

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From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: tire pressure
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:49:15 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

In article <YeRqff_00WB_MHHaFn@andrew.cmu.edu> ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy) writes:
>Howdy,
>essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
>> i used to run bias ply tires on my interceptor and i followed the
>> "pressure after riding should be ~3 pounds more than cold pressure"
>> rule.  now that i've got sportmaxes (radials), should i use the same
>> equation?  i seem to recall someone saying radials want more pressure (?)....

>With radials, you pretty much just set the pressure and leave it.
>Steph's already suggested between 30 and 32 psi, which sounds good,

Uh, guys?  I think Alex was asking "by how much will the hot pressure
exceed the cold pressure" and implying "I might forget or be unable to
check them cold, what should I set them ti when HOT"? since all the
mfgr numbers are for COLD pressure.

I think the answer is: Set them cold, heat them up, and then test them
and determine your own rule.

Actualy, the answer is:  "hot" means a lot fo different things, and
the pressure can vary from 3-4psi over cold to 10-12psi over,
depending on air temperature, riding speed in the last few minutes,
atmospheric pressure, etc. so the mfgrs go for a nominally-constant
"cold" pressure, on a "standard day" (60 degrees F, sea level, 29.92
in. Hg in the barometer).  It's not an exact science, methinks.
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 Mail: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com    |  My employer accepts no responsibility...
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From: lestat@wixer.cactus.org (Lyle J. Mackey)
Subject: Re: EX500s and traffic
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 05:13:06 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.234900.22673@novell.com> mvij@novell.com (Manish Vij) writes:
>
>*BUZZER* Wrong!  Proud owner of a well-crashed, '89 Kawi EX500.  "If
>it ain't got roadrash, it ain't fit to be a newbie's bike."  $1350.
>
>^^^ All you can say when you're lying in a body cast ;).
>
>Manish

Congrats on your EX.  My EX is my first "real bike", too, and it's been nothing
but fun for the few months I've had it.  I'll be curious to see how long it
takes you to want something bigger, though... I've got my eye on a new ZX-6
these days (no flames, please, I've realized these things aren't horribly
popular, but I like it, so pffffft!).

Say, wanna buy an aftermarket pipe?  I recently went back to the stockers
from the Kerker Whitetip that was on the bike when I bought it.  It makes
better high-end power, but is loooooud...
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From: david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (David Robinson)
Subject: Re: ERC (was: Get your feet ...)
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:15:53 GMT

In article <LOTTO.92Jul27125236@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>MRC:RSS Exercise 28 - Surmounting Obstacles
>	Usually 2x4's and 4x4's.
>
>There is no reason I know of that would prevent these exercises from
>being offered at the end of an ERC.

Our instructor told us we would not being doing this one, the RSS budget
was designed with a 5 year expected life for the range bikes.  Jumping
4x4's proved a bit too harsh on the bikes.  I could see some ERC
riders thinking twice about this exercise on a $15K bike.

	-David
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"An addiction is a drag" - Dennis Hopper	'90 EX250R Ninja
"A tisket, a tasket, a condom or a casket" - Dr. Carl Bell
From: dknight@ELM.SDD.TRW.COM (David B. Knight)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Info on '88 FZR750RS ?
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:22:27 GMT


Someone here at work is selling an '88 Yamaha FZR750RS Limited Edition
for $4,250.  He claims that only 200 were made.

Anyone have any info on this bike and whether or not this is a good
deal?  Thanks in advance.

Dave Knight
dknight@elm.sdd.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mulman@hmcvax.claremont.edu (Mike Ulman)
Subject: Help with oil leak!
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 27 Jul 92 10:47:34 PDT



Hello!

I'd like some advice:

My Honda twin leaks oil from the cylinder head. I'm losing compression (93
left, 100 right rather than the 180-200 psi listed in Clymer) and the bike is
very sluggish and won't surpass 55 mph.

I'd like to replace the head gasket but it seems like a very big job for a
novice since everything has to be removed to get to it. The only maintanence
I've done so far (I've had the bike since July 7th) is adjust the oil level
and tighten the chain so I am REALLY new at this. Being low on funds I think
that taking the bike to a shop is out of my budget (does anyone know what
they'll charge?). 

Has anyone done similar jobs on their bikes? Does anyone have ANY advice on the
repairs? How dangerous is it not to repair it quite yet (in terms of damage to
the bike and accidents - power failure)? Do you think that I can do the repair
myself? How long would it take to do the job (I'm going away for August and
when I return school starts = p-chem and homework from)?

Thanks a lot.

Mike

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From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: Ridership doubles on ride to work day
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:22:21 GMT

Oh, was today the day?  I noticed the motorcycle area was particularly
empty today when Lothar the Softail rolled to a stop.  A husband and
wife that both ride even left their scooters home today and they only live
two (2) miles away...

I am Lothar of the Hill People!

- Roid 

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From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Harley/Other dealerships
Organization: Bit Herders International
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 05:38:06 GMT

In article <18592@drutx.ATT.COM> pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith) writes:
+...On numerous occasions I've gone
+looking for parts for a Honda, and they offer a Harley substitute, "We don't
+have a fork seal for a CB750F, but this Harley seal might work."  Really,
+I'm not exaggerating.  ...

So when you put the Harley fork seal on your Honda, did you notice more
Harley riders waving to you?

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