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From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9 in boston area?
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:09:51 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>> Last year, when channel 56 ran their Star Trek marathon, they
>> advertised that they'd be carrying DS9 when it started in January.
>
>Any chance we can get Channel 56 to stop ruining the TNG episodes with their  
>stupid annoying logo?
>
>I hope they don't do this to the DS9 episodes.
>
>Monty
>
>
>-- 
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The reason that stations do this (and not just 56) is that episodes of Star
Trek are sold commercially, on videotape, and this insures that something
taped off TV cannot be mistaken for a liscenced tape

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From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (Roger Tang)
Subject: Re: Female CO for the E
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:37:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.154100.9599@sernews.raleigh.ibm.com> dcbii@rob.raleigh.ibm.com () writes:
>I have a feeling some of you wouldn't be satisfied unless the show had a
>minority dominated universe, or some such.

	"minorities" dominate the world.  So what?

  And now that I think of it, that
>would be similar to the current situation in South Africa.

	Wrong.

  Think about that
>for a minute.

	Please do. It's obvious you haven't.

	Idjit.

-- 
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From: obarriga@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Omar A Barriga)
Subject: opinion of CoC I
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 01:37:27 GMT

After spending the last 5-6 days looking through the comments on CoC I, I must 
admit that I was a bit disappointed.  The episode was good but it did not live 
up to the expectations that I had developed after reading all the posts.  Since
this is not marked for spoilers, I will not make specific points save for one:
I don't understand everybody'd problem with Jellico.  Having experienced 
changes in administration in a business setting years ago and in an academic 
setting recently, nothing that he did seemed prepostorous to me.

On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd give this episode an 8.  On the other hand, the 
previews for CoC II are very captivating.

Keep the faith,

Omar
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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: Star Trek writers make another continuity mistake
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:45:56 GMT

abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:


>	When everyone's favorite character...Wesley Crusher was talking to
>Guinan, he said something along the lines "Is it true that you and the
>captain met when he was on the Stargazer?" and Guinana replied "No, I
>didn't meet the captain until I got on the Enterprise."
>	Now according to Time's Arrow, this is not the case since she
>would have met him BEFORE joining the Enterprise. Now if she had said "No,
>Captain Picard didn't meet me until I got on board the Enterprise" that
>would have worked!

Nay, this ain't that big of a thing. Guinan was simply making sure that 
Picard didn't know that they would meet before (later for Picard). True,
her chose of words was not perfect, but then again, she *is* capable of
lieing. I don't think is so big...


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From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Re: DS9 on KBHK, San Francisco
Summary: KTXL (40) from Sacramento
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:00:13 GMT

Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Keywords: DS9

charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>danwood@netcom.com (Daniel J Wood) writes:
>
>>Has anybody ever tried convincing KBHK (or, for that matter, _any_ local
>>station) to go *stereo* sound?
>
>A Fox affiliate?  Seems that all the Fox affiliates I've lived near are 
>too cheap to actually broadcast in stereo, IMHO, of course.
>

What?  Didn't any of you notice that, before the stupid "cable TV exclusivity"
rule two years ago, we could get KTXL from Sacramento?  I have every TNG
up to that point in Stereo, though mostly because I was in St.Louis for
the first season and Ft. Worth until three years ago...

Anyway, ch 40 (K-T-XL) has done stereo for quite some time, and I'm fairly
certain they're a Fox affiliate as well.

I've contacted KBHK and KNTV about stereo, and both said they'd go stereo
next month if I paid for it (a common joke, I understand) Anyway, as recently
as six months ago, neither had any definite plans-They'll probably both
do it as soon as I pay for a *really good* UHF antenna...

	Bob
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From: buc@world.std.com (Quantum Buc)
Subject: Re: Startrek VII - Takei's comments
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:53:26 GMT

helene@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Helene Blankespoor) writes:

> Last week, George Takei was interview on British TV and apperently said 
> about the next film, Startrek VII, that if it was going to be made it would
> be centred around Captain Sulu and the Excelsior.
> I did not see the interview myself but has anyone else heard anything about
> this ??

As I reported in a Con report a few weeks back, I saw Mr. Takei at the
Atlantic City Megacon, and in his talk, he went on incessantly that he felt
that STVII should include a good deal about Captain Sulu and the Excelsior.
There is no concrete story yet, (or wasn't at the time), but he is just
hoping that Sulu will be more prominent. Personally, I don't think that there's
a Klingon's chance in Kirk's House of that happening.  Mr. Takei, while
being a very nice gentleman, was a tad overzealous in his belief of the
necessity of a more detailed focus on Sulu. Although, I'm sure there are
plenty of Sulu fans out there ready to chomp at the bit. But that's why
it's called an opinion, because it's...my opinion.


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Subject: Troi's rank
From: wcrusher@netlink.cts.com (Wes Welty)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 13:12:31 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

what is her current reank and what will it be after "Chain of Command"?
Send mail replies only please


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From: hodge3726@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Female CO for the E
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:29:49 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Mike Hollander suggested a female captian for the E.  While he believes it may
be ok for stardate 4507 whatever it won't work for 1992.  Inferior earthlings
of the late 20th century still watch the show and it wouldn't work.  The show
would further stall out of its already death spiral and crash.  What I mean is
that female captains are a great idea but the way things are now it wouldn't
work for the show.  Sorry ladies but the perceptions aren't there.  Maybe in a
few years when we see more women CEO's.  The postheroic leader hasn't developed
enough yet.


Hodge3726@iscsvax.uni.edu
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From: chetc@resumix.portal.com (Chester L. Cuaresma)
Subject: DS9 press kit:  anyone have it on tape?
Organization: Resumix Inc.
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 11:53:43 GMT

If anyone has it on tape, I would REALLY appreciate it if somebody sent
me a copy.  I will gladly pay for any postage cost associated with its
shipping.

Thanks for listening.

						Chet C.


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From: hbauschk@math.uwaterloo.ca (Heinz H. Bauschke)
Subject: DS9/TNG in Toronto Area:HELP!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: ont
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:50:21 GMT

Dear Netters,

I am probably not in Ontario between Dec 10 and Jan 1.

Does anybody knows if in this time something new from TNG or DS9 is
shown?

I catch City TV (everywhere...) and Fox 29.

Please reply to my account. Thank you so much.

Cheers and Merry Christmas!

  Heinz
From: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Troi is capable of we
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: scott.hollifield@the-matrix.com (Scott Hollifield) 

On 16 Dec 92 23:13:09 GMT, jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) wrote:

JN>However, this is getting away from the theme of this thread: Troi's
JN>uniform and it's place in her job.  To which I'd like to add that I
JN>still think it's a bad idea for her not to be in uniform because I
JN>don't think that the counselor's sexuality is in any way something
JN>worth promoting in counsel.

JN>Also, were she to be counseling a patient who has problems with their
JN>sex life, that could be a very bad situation should she continue to
JN>dress provocatively.  Simply put, it's not her job to titillate the
JN>patients.

Have you considered the possibility that, while you personally may be
titillated by Troi's typical wardrobe, the crew of the Enterprise isn't?
Times change.  I may be wrong, but I'd guess that they're used to seeing
things much more provocative than that in the 24th century.  You seem to
be implying that Troi dresses the way she does in order to "promote" her
sexuality.  A more sensible explanation is that she dresses so because
what she wears is considered acceptable - perhaps even ordinary - leisure
apparel in TNG's time.

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: ds9/tng in toronto area:h
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 19 Dec 92 09:29:31 EST

 TO: hbauschk@math.uwaterloo.ca
 -=> Heinz H. Bauschke babbled to All and look what he said! <=-

 HHB> I am probably not in Ontario between Dec 10 and Jan 1.

 HHB> Does anybody knows if in this time something new from TNG or DS9 is
 HHB> shown?

 HHB> I catch City TV (everywhere...) and Fox 29.

YES!  On Friday, December 18 (or Saturday, December 19) is "Chain of
Command, Part I" will air and on Friday, December 25 (or Saturday,
December 26) is "Chain of Command, Part II".  Also, the first week of
January is supposed to be the air date of Deep Space Nine.  However, I'm
betting that it will start on Friday, January 8 not January 1.  TTYL!



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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Chain of Command 1: Irony abounds (Spoilers)
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:54:58 GMT
Organization: Cuddlehogs Anonymous

In article <1992Dec20.164717.29544@news.csuohio.edu> cowboy@trans.csuohio.edu (Joe Rosenfeld) writes:
:Captain Jellico is certainly entertaining.  No doubt he is better in
:battle than Picard, who does not fare well against rowboats in a battle.
                                                    ^^^^^^^^

Is this a reference to the Borg perhaps? :-)

[Old Harry Harrison joke recycled in reverse :)]

G
From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Episode question
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:05:50 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

In the referenced article, brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton) writes:
>In article <1g82fiINNr1e@early-bird.think.com> fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
>>Quick question -- what is the name of the episode where Worf meets
>>his brother, goes back to "Kling" andeventually get "discommendation"?
>                           ^^^^^^^
>A little bit off the subject, but this and other episodes refer 
>to the planet as the "Klingon homeworld" only, I believe. Is this Chronos
>(or Kronos) from Star Trek VI?  They must have repaired their ozone layer
>by this point.. anyone remember a reference to the planet by name in TNG?
>

  OH NO!!  HERE WE GO AGAIN ........
From: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: 'Batman" meets 'Trek'
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:54:58 -0800
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <T5FwVB1w165w@infopls.chi.il.us>, abhalla@infopls.chi.il.us (Arun Bhalla) writes:
>> |> to my surprise.. one of the characters knew the Klingon proverb that
>> |> Revenge is a dish best served cold.
>
>> I don't know who originally said this (probably one of 
>> Shakespeare's characters - they've said everything else :-) -
>> but in ST, wasn't Kahn (sp) the one who said this, not a Klingon?
>> Or did he quote the Klingon proverb?
>> 
>> Brenda J. Molina  > 
> Khan is a Klingon...an early type, but still Klingon.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^    
> Arun Bhalla 

WHAT?!? Are you joking? No, he was a human from the late 20th century...
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From: wolfson@regatta.sps.mot.com (Stephen Wolfson)
Subject: Re: Why no brand names on TNG-Why Not?
Organization: SPS
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:18:23 GMT

In article <168BCF674.YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>  
YANJUNA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:

Actually Bill Gates the XVII, chairman of Microsoft World,
(having relocated to Ferengi controlled space where they could
do business as they liked) has all complete software rights to
anything in the known galaxy having put all competitors out of 
business in the Open Standards War of 2015.  The reason the 
replicators are so slow is there is still an 8086 emulator to handle  
secret DOS/Windows code that they lost the documentation for 380 years
ago and couldn't rewrite so they had to emulate it.
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From: fate@eskimo.com (Craig Stykel)
Subject: Re: Who is Ronny Cox
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 09:39:09 GMT

Neal_washburn@iegate.mitre.org (Neal Washburn) writes:
> Ronny Cox also appeared on the TV program "St. Elsewhere."  He was a 
> doctor hired by the corporation who took over the hospital.  His
position 
> was head of the hospital adminidtration.  He was a "company person"
and he 
> was very un-popular among the staff.
> 
> Sound familier?
> 
> 
> 
> N.H.Washburn
> Member of the Technical Staff
> The MITRE Corporation
> Normal Disclaimers
If it's the same person, he also played in Robocop1 as
a head of O.P.C. and he played the villian...
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From: rccarm00@nx19.mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
Subject: Re: do we need rec.arts.startrek.dsn?
    <HROSE.92Dec15201113@rocza.eff.org> 
    <1992Dec16.013552.29650@leland.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx19.mik.uky.edu!rccarm00
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:18:42 GMT

firestar@leland.Stanford.EDU (Lipton Ann Meredith) writes:

>hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) writes:

>>Disagree. "rec.arts.startrek.current" was created so there wouldn't be a
>>"tos" and "tng" group. "current" covers "tos" movies as well as "tng". I
>>don't see why dsn shouldn't fall under "current". Perhaps tags on mesage
>>subjects? like "Subject: TNG: Picard and Troi?!?!" or 
>>"Subject: DSN: Sisko is based on an Intel chip!" -- either way would
>>make Kill-files an easy way to manage the traffic. 
>>
>>--Helen

>I dunno anything about the reasons for splitting up the r.a.startrek groups,
>but I'm not sure killfiles could do the job -- I mean, I don't want to _not_
>read stuff about DSN, I just would like to keep it separate so I don't get all
>confused.  So I can read about TNG and read about DSN without having to think
>overly much.  Just my $.02.

     I think the general problem here (and with society in general of late)
is not that people want to avoid getting "all confused", but rather that
they want to avoid exerting any effort to *keep* from becoming confused.
Like you said, you don't want to have to think.
     It would be very poor management indeed to create a new group for an
untried series simply because certain people don't want to wade through 
the subject lines to find the articles they want to read... 
     This subject has been beaten to death on rec.arts.tv over the subject
of QL getting *its* own group.  That series has been running for several
*years* and doesn't have its own group, even though it generates a large
percentage of the traffic on rat.

>Firestar

RC Carman

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From: fjs@maico.ksu.ksu.edu (Frank J Sereno)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Let's get one thing clear.  (Spoilers??)
Date: 17 Dec 1992 23:12:42 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: maico.ksu.ksu.edu


In article <L2FyVB1w165w@prag.com>, Sean D. Ackley <su@prag.com> writes:
>
>Possible spoilers?...












































>This message is for those people that think Jelico is a butt head.
>
>Look!! It possibly could be wartime!!!  What would happen if the commander
>of our troops overseas was a pantywaiste?  (They would all be dead!)
>
>Picard is a good captain, but he would definately have to become more rigid
>during wartime.  Since he is usually a captain during peace time there is
>no way to judge what he would be like.
>
>flame off--
>
>(I in no way am saying that Jelico couldn't lighten up, but he does have a
> good point when he says he doesn't have "time" to wait around."
>
>
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I believe that Picard would be a much better commander during a war than Jelico 
based on the following reasons:

1.  Instead of relying on brute-force, Picard utilizes EVERY available option to
counter the immediate threat.  Jean-Luc seems to try to avoid the hostilities, but
when provoked, he has shown that force will be used if necessary....

2.  As Troi indicated, Jelico was very unsure of himself in treating the
Cardassian envoy in a VERY unfavorable way.  By using intense aggression to gain
the upper-hand, Jelico was more-than-likely provoking the Cardassians to
fight--NOT to negotiate. (Two wolves fighting......)

3.  As we have seen in the past, a leader must work WITH his crew rather than
alienate him/herself from them.  Picard was able to understand the
weaknessess/strengths of the Enterprise Crew, while Jelico had little idea 
how his crew would react in a 'war' situation.  It seems obvious to me that the
Federation was wanting to enhance the conflict with the Cardassians.......

Frank Sereno
Kansas State University
From: lgraham@aldo.srnr.arizona.edu (Lee Graham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Beverly heats up... *POSSIBLE SPOILERS*
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:21:39 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Arizona Advanced Resource Technology Program

i
I was also not too thrilled about the scene with Bev and the Ferengi,
since we have to presume her ploy was successful - hence she must
have delivered in some way some service that the Ferengi found  
acceptable.  Not a palatable scene, plus a pretty stupid one
to watch
From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lwaxana - Who plays her?
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 06:28:00 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

A word of advice--if your friend offers to go double-or-nothing, 
stating that Majel Barrett also played Number One in the original pilot
of "The Cage"--do not take this bet.

PAD
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From: yearke@calspan.com (Dave Yearke)
Subject: DS9 on WUTV, Buffalo
Summary: DS9 will be on Thursdays at 10 PM
Organization: Calspan Advanced Technology Center
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:46:59 GMT

This information is based on a phone call to WUTV, Channel 29, in Buffalo
(actually, it's on Grand Island):

Scheduled time slot:                 Thursdays at 10 PM
Premier:                             Tuesday,  January  5 at  8 PM
First "regularly scheduled" episode: Thursday, January 14 at 10 PM

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From: Will Steeves <goid@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Beards vs. Make-up
X-To: ALL
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:28:00 GMT

In article <By5zs1.H4s@iai.kfk.de> seldner@hdi3sun.kfk.de (David Seldner)
writes:
> Psychologically, men who have beards want to
> hide something, they don't want to "show their face".


AIYYYEEEEE!  AAAAARGH!!!!!  Another Pop Psychologist!

KILL!!  KILL!!!!  KILL!!!!!!!!!!!


(Just kidding, David...)

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