HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lau@sunset.ai.sri.com (Stephen Lau)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Any banks with modem access in the Bay Area?
Date: 21 Nov 92 02:09:53 GMT
	<wallich.722303497@pepper>
Distribution: ba
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
In-reply-to: wallich@ncd.com's message of 20 Nov 92 23:51:37 GMT


Ken, 
    You must have had Homebanking at least 5 years ago, which in terms of
computerized banking was a lifetime ago. I've had Homebanking since 
they started offering it about 10 odd years ago, and yes it use to be gawd awful.

They now have very good customer service, and the transfers are done the same
day for most of the businesses, i.e. the debit and credit are at the same time
so you can time it to the day. 

You can now set up payments up to a year in advance and the amount of businesess
participating has increased greatly. 

The menu system is pretty disgusting still, but can be strung together into
one command. Simple macros handle almost all of the requests needed. 

Also, the service charge went up about 5-6 years ago to 14.00 a month.


Steve

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From: eric.sobalvarro@eabbs.uucp (Eric Sobalvarro) 
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Looking for Hardwood Floo
Date: 22 Nov 92 11:36:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Easy Access BBS - San Ramon CA - 510-829-7627
Reply-To: eric.sobalvarro@eabbs.uucp (Eric Sobalvarro) 

to:krubin@parcplace.com

KS>Subject: Looking for Hardwood Floors and Cabinets

Ever consider using marble or granite for that flooring?  Or maybe granite 
counter tops for your cabinets?  If you are interested give Alpha Granite 
& Marble a call at 510/357-6197.


--- WinQwk 2.0 a#0
From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: patent rights.
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:24:29 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1992Nov16.185145.27954@leland.Stanford.EDU>, eap@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Perozziello) writes:
> (UPI) -- Gaithersburg inventor Peter Tsakanikas says Japan owes
> American inventors millions of dollars in royalties for certain gizmos
                                                                  ^^^^^^
> used in facsimile machines. Tsakanikas is planning to show up today at
> the U-S Japan Friendship Celebration at B-W-I Airport Marriott Hotel. He
> says he's owed 28-dollars for each of the eight-Million fax machines
> exported from Japan since 1984. That's more than 208-Million dollars.

Gizmos?  GIZMOS?  Is it that hard for UPI to copy down the right
words?
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
"Foxes prefer rabbits with short claws." -- Nadja Adolf
From: casey@Auspex.COM (Casey Cox)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Auto Body Shop Recommendations wanted
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:49:24 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

Well, I went and dinged up my Mazda RX7 pretty bad and am in need of a
*good* body shop. Can anyone recommend one?


-- 
Casey Cox
Auspex Systems, 2952 Bunker Hill Lane, Santa Clara, CA 95054  
(408) 492-0900  FAX (408) 492-0909
From: alpope@skids.Eng.Sun.COM (Alan L. Pope)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Two new FAQ panels (for editing): Panel 1 for dealing with flamewars
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:43:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: alpope@skids.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: skids.eng.sun.com

In article 8326@public.BTR.COM, rah@public.BTR.COM (Richard A Hyde  rah@btr.com) writes:
>Second, the new "panel" format does not increase the *frequency* of FAQs,
>only the duration between the *same* FAQ.  The number of times a month
>you have to hit "n" does not change.  There could, indeed, be 75 FAQs
>and it would make no difference to me.

Agreed!

It is way easy to delete the FAQs from just a quick glance at the header. 
It is more tedious to delete al the infantile flame wars since the header
doesn't usually proclaim the real topic.

As applies in real life:  If you can't say something constructive then shut the f___ up!

---
" Acendo o cigarro para adiar a viagem,
 Para adiar todas as viagens,
 Para adiar o universo inteiro.
 Volta amanha, realidade! "
--Alvaro de Campos "Ode Maritima"  Alan Pope <alan.pope@Sun.COM>
From: marc@dumbcat.sf.ca.us (Marco S Hyman)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Two new FAQ panels (for editing): Panel 1 for dealing with flamewars
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:39:12 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: MSH Software, Hayward, CA

In article <6974@ac13.cs.nps.navy.mil> rpwhite@ac13.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite) writes:
 > Followup-To: alt.religion.kibology,ba.general,ba.test,misc.test,alt.test

Cute.

// marc
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marc@dumbcat.sf.ca.us -- pacbell!dumbcat!marc
From: geoff@netcom.com (Geoffrey Leach)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Computer Store Recommendation
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:39:28 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager) writes:

>A friend is considering purchasing a 486 PC system.  Does anyone have
>a recomendation on what store has good selection, good prices, and 
>good service?

I purchased mine from Advanced Computers (408) 732-6200.  Gppd prices,
good service, good quality.  Knowledgable in PC and SCO, less so on
SVR4.  I'm running MST SVR4.0.3 and X11R5 on an AMD-based 33MHZ ESIA/nonSCSI/486
purchased from Advanced with no trouble.
-- 
Geoffrey Leach		geoff@netcom.com
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: mortati@ocean.ucs.dec.com (Maria Mortati)
Subject: Wanted: person to install a dead bolt in a metal door (Redwood City area)
Keywords: lock, deadbolt, install
Reply-To: mortati@ocean.ucs.dec.com (Maria Mortati)
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 20:37:00 GMT


Hi, I've already purchased a lock and I need someone
who can install it for me.  The door it will be put
into is a hollow metal door.

Anyone have a handyman or somebody (near Redwood City)
that they could refer?  I have nothing to compare this
too as well, about how much should this cost?

Any info would be appreciated.  Thanks,

MM
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: eager@eagercon.com (Michael J. Eager)
Subject: Computer Store Recommendation
Reply-To: eager@eagercon.com
Organization: Eager Consulting
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:39:22 GMT

A friend is considering purchasing a 486 PC system.  Does anyone have
a recomendation on what store has good selection, good prices, and 
good service?

---
Michael J. Eager		Michael.Eager@eagercon.com
Eager Consulting		(415) 325-8077 
1960 Park Boulevard, Palo Alto, CA 94306-1141

Newsgroups: ba.general
From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Subject: Re: Two new FAQ panels (for editing): Panel 1 for dealing with flamewars
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:01:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.185146.24673@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:
>The structure of the FAQs is an experiment.  We went from bi weekly FAQs
>into this new form which is linked.  I was planning to add these as two
>addition links in the chain.  The problem is you can't make them too long
>(you will see some of this in the quiz) because most readers don't know how
>to search.

This is another thing I feel I hafta jump into... these linked FAQs are
separate messages per question? If they are and they are sent out at some
interval, I think the number of messages would go up. I would be against this.

I would be neutral toward some kind of database facility if each element was
only sent once, however how do you get to the database element reader?

I would also be somewhat neutral, leaning towards the one-file-has-all the
FAQs since this is familiar.

And of course I'm for anything that ends dumb flame wars (such as a recent one
that had the content 'lizard breath' and 'nyaa nyaa'), just __please__ don't
send me all of -say- 75 faqs, one to a message, every 2 weeks.
From: rah@public.BTR.COM (Richard A Hyde  rah@btr.com)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Two new FAQ panels (for editing): Panel 1 for dealing with flamewars
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:03:59 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM

OK, I'll (sigh) jump in too.  :-)

First, I find eugene's posts informative and useful.  I often read them
more than once (thanks, eugene!)

Second, the new "panel" format does not increase the *frequency* of FAQs,
only the duration between the *same* FAQ.  The number of times a month
you have to hit "n" does not change.  There could, indeed, be 75 FAQs
and it would make no difference to me.

The only factor to consider is how long a newcomer has to wait before
the applicable FAQ appears in it's rotation.  If each FAQ has the table
of contents (and perhaps an FTP site), then this concern diminishes...

Third, unless *you* want to do it, don't complain.  It needs to be done.

My $0.03.

Rick

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From: pedwards@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Paul N Edwards)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Available to House-sit 12/1-12/17 and after 1/15/93
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:44:03 GMT
Organization: Stanford University CSLI


I'm a former Santa Cruz resident (9 years) who's returned to
the Bay area as a visiting professor at Stanford. I'm looking for 
housesitting situations anywhere in the Peninsula area, for any duration
longer than two weeks, between 12/1 and 12/17 and/or anytime after
January 15.

I'm clean, responsible, and good with plants and animals.
I'm finishing a book about the cultural and political
history of computers, so I mostly need a quiet place to write..
I can give you local references.

Range: anywhere from Los Gatos to South San Francisco, though the Palo Alto
area (from Los Altos to San Carlos) is best 
for me. Will also consider Santa Cruz and La Honda locations.

Arrangements: I'll take care of your house, yard, plants, and animals,
take messages, and do anything else you need (within reason) in
exchange for a place to stay.

If you or anyone you know is taking a long vacation or leaving town
for a while, I'd appreciate a call.

My name is Paul Edwards. You can reach me in any of the following
ways:

voicemail 415-804-5952, theoretically toll-free
office phone 415-723-2780 
email pedwards@euphrates.stanford.edu
From: athos@apple.com (Rick Eames)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Tahoe Recommendations?
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:03:01 GMT
Followup-To: ba.general
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

Hi, 

I'm going on vacation and would love to take my wife to a nice place in
Tahoe for the weekend.  We're not much on gambling, but would love to try
it.  Here are things we enjoy in a good hotel/inn:

* Fireplace in room
* Cable tv
* Great room service

We have heard of a place called the Fantasy Inn which is supposed to baby
the hell out of you.  Any experiences?



############################################################################
Rick Eames                         Internet:      athos@apple.com
Apple Computer, Inc.               CompuServe:    76666,2114
My Opionions are my own.           AmericaOnline: EamesR
"The Lord prefers common-looking people. That is why he makes so many of
them."  - Lincoln

"But you know what?  There's another point that I'd like to make: it's very
possible that Adolf Hitler kept a very nice check book.  You know?  I mean,
and that's fine."  -- Barbara Boxer, Bill Press Show, KFI, 10/24/92
############################################################################
From: jeffj@ultra.com (Jeff Johnson)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Fair and Festival Pseudo-weekly Posting
Keywords: fair festival food fun
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:00:21 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies

If you missed the Harvest Festival these past two weekends in San Francisco,
you really owe it to yourself to check it out this coming weekend in San Jose.
I was at the San Francisco one on Sunday, and was amazed at the number of
craftspeople that I hadn't seen throughout the summer.  There are plenty of
Christmas gifts to be had, and Christmas *is* just around the corner.  There
is an admission fee (it was $6 in San Francisco), but $1 discount coupons are
available in the newspaper.

If I've omitted your favorite Fair or Festival, please send me the info so
that I won't leave it out next week.  See you at the Festivals!

Nov 18       Allied Arts Guild (Arbor & Cambridge Roads, Menlo Park)
Nov 20-21    Ladybug Boutique (Hayward Centenial Hall)
Nov 20-21    San Rafael Craft Jamboree (Civic Center)
Nov 20-22    Gifts 'n Tyme Holiday Faire (Town & Country Fairgrounds, Napa)
Nov 21-22    Gift & Gourmet (Sonoma County Fairgrounds, Santa Rosa)
Nov 21-22    Art of Christmas (Oakes Shopping Center, Cupertino)
Nov 27-29    Christmas Craftique (Sonoma County Fairgrounds, Santa Rosa)
Nov 27-29    Santa Cruz Christmas Faire (Fairgrounds)
Dec 4-5      Watsonville Christmas Gift Fair (Santa Cruz County Fairgrounds)
Dec 4-6      Stanford Crafts Fair (Tresidder Student Union, Stanford U.)
Dec 5-6      Christmas Craft and Gourmet Festival (Modesto Centre Plaza)
Dec 11-13    Sacramento Craft Festival (Convention Center, 14th & J)
Dec 12-13 &
 Dec 19-20   Celebration of Craftswomen, Fort Mason, SF
Dec 12-13 &
 Dec 19-20   Telegraph Avenue Street Fair (Berkeley)

This is a separate list of the Harvest Festivals:
Nov 20-22    San Jose, Convention Center
Nov 20-22    Costa Mesa, Orange County Fairgrounds
Nov 27-29    Anaheim, Convention Center
Nov 27-29    Seattle, Seattle Center Coliseum
Dec 4-6      Pomona, LA County Fairgrounds
Dec 4-6      Portland, Convention Center
-- 
    Jeff Johnson    | Ultra Network Technologies | voice: (408) 922-0100 x284
  jeffj@ultra.com   |     101 Daggett Drive      |   fax: (408) 433-9287
...ames!ultra!jeffj |    San Jose, CA  95134     |   sex: (900) 976-4825
 The difference between ignorance and apathy?  I don't know and I don't care
From: jimlynch@netcom.com (Jim Lynch)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Kahn's Corner Pharmacy - AVOID IT!!!
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:36:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I think I'll jump in to this too... First off, what you were wearing doesn't
seem weird at all... I see this leaves 2 possibilities: either you did
something out of the ordinary (I note _very gently_ that your replies here
seem to me to be a bit on the defensive side), or that the store's employees
prejudged something (perhaps your color, but also perhaps a behavior pattern
or some such thing.)

Could you describe what happened in more detail? (For example, were they on
you as soon as your presence was known to them or was it more like an
escalating argument? How did it start? How did the conversation start and how
did the argument start?)

I see you're angry and hurt. One thing I'd like to let you know about the
internet is that on groups such as ones with items for sale, the following
always happens (whether local or world-wide:) one person posts about another
who shouldn't be trusted by sending him money in advance, and it's always
ALL_CAPS and _underlined (like this)_ and every time I've seen such a message,
another follows saying that he's had no problem trusting the person. This
happens so much that some of the groups have a FAQ (frequently asked question)
in the list that deals somehow with this, perhaps by saying that if they see
such a post, read on for replies.

Welcome to the internet; I hope you'll stay around long enuf to become a
citizen.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: root@rigel.IntelliCorp.COM (The Lord of the Files)
Subject: Re: Kahn's Corner Pharmacy - AVOID IT!!!
Date: 19 Nov 92 05:04:52 GMT

Maybe you can shed some light on these events.  There did not seem to
be anything out of the ordinary at the start of this transaction, that
is why there seems to be something below the surface.

I entered Kahn's after a visit to my physician during which I received
the prescription that I was attempting to have honored.   My physician
has practiced in Los Altos for over 20 years, so you would expect that
the name would be familiar to a Los Altos pharmacy.

The difficulty began when I questioned why this pharmacy required a
drivers licenses to process a prescription.  "Because I asked you for
it, that's why", was the reply.  When I asked if any of my personal
information would be recorded in their database the answer was
"Maybe".   When I objected to this as being out of the ordinary the
pharmacist exploded.

As I have indicated before, I was willing to wait while they called my
physician to verify the authenticity of the thing.  After all I had
left there not more than 15 minutes before.

Go figure...
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: Rick_Donnelly@taligent.com (Rick Donnelly)
Subject: Re: Anyone know of cheap long-term parking at SFO?
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:15:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.000429.13766@Csli.Stanford.EDU>,
pedwards@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Paul N Edwards) writes:
> 
> I'll be gone for a week at Thanksgiving and don't want
> to pay $8 a day for long-term parking. Is there a cheaper
> alternative nearby in both distance and time? I'm returning
> on a 10:30 p.m. flight, so the bus lines are probably out.
> 

The last time I was there, long-term parking was up to $9.
There is a place just north of San Bruno Ave. in San Bruno that
charges $7 ($6 if you're lucky and find one of their coupons)
and runs a shuttle service to the airport.  I've forgotten
their name, but there is an "Airport Parking" sign on San Bruno
Ave. that points the way.

Rick Donnelly
Rick_Donnelly@taligent.com

Newsgroups: ba.general
From: dennice@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Dennice)
Subject: !!@@## RETRACTION:  Apology ##@@!!
Followup-To: ba.general
Organization: Slac
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:41:47 GMT

I HEREBY RETRACT MY POSTING OF NOVEMBER 2, 1992 REGARDING HOUSE PAINTING. 
THIS WAS NOT OFFICIAL BUSINESS AND SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE FROM THE
SLAC/STANFORD ASSESS TO NETNEWS.  MY SINCERE APOLOGIES FOR ANY TROUBLE THAT
THIS OVERSIGHT MAY HAVE CAUSED.


DENNICE RENDEROS
From: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Any banks with modem access in the Bay Area?
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:51:37 GMT
Reply-To: wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich)
Distribution: ba

mcb@baudrillard.postmodern.com (Michael C. Berch) writes:

>Both Bank of America and Wells Fargo Bank offer this; the services are
>fundamentally the same.  I have Wells Fargo Online, which you can
>access via Prodigy or directly.  It costs $12.95/month, which is
>overpriced if you ask me, and the quality of service is not very good,
>plus (at least in my case) you have to put up with the Prodigy
>interface.

I used to have the Bank of America Homebanking, and it cost me around
$10/month (this was probably 4 years ago).  It had a very, *very* bad
menu-type interface (worse than the old Compuserve interface).  They
had poor to non-existant customer service, and they told you to pay at
least 7 days before payment was suppose to arrive, meaning, as Michael
pointed out, you get no float.  In fact, it seemed worse than mail to
me, since I know exactly how long it will take to get snailMail to my
creditors, and they put down payment as being received when they
receive the paper, keeping the money in the bank until a day or two
*after* payment is received.  So, I get *more* interest by paying the
"old fasioned way".  

You could set your payments up in advance, but only 2 weeks in
advance.  I wanted to be able to set up a class of payments (like
Citibank credit cards), and set a 'standard' amount to send, and just
schedule that for the next 6 months, being able to change it any month
I wanted to.  No can do.  So, if your going on vacation for 6 weeks,
you either pay your bills before you get the statements, or get
someone to pay them for you, or contact each and every creditor to
find out what their policy is.

After having it for two years, and realizing that I was paying *them*
to make *their* life easier, and mine no better, and in many cases
worse, I cancelled.

There are other independent systems (like CheckFree) which are perhaps
better functionality and interface-wise than the systems run by the
banks themselves.  You might want to check them out.

About the only thing I occasionally found of value was being able to
log in at 1:00am after paying bills, and transfer money from one
account to another so I didn't have to stop by the ATM in the morning.
Hardly worth spending $10/month on.

--
Ken Wallich
wallich@ncd.com  
ken@wallich.com
From: krubin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Kenneth S. Rubin)
Newsgroups: ba.wanted,ba.general
Subject: Entertainment '93 Coupon Book
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:26:41 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Originator: krubin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU


Does anyone know where to purchase an Entertainment '93 Coupon Book?
This is the book that has a variety of coupons for restaurants and hotels.

Thanks in advance,
--Kenny Rubin
krubin@parcplace.com
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: krubin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Kenneth S. Rubin)
Subject: Looking for Women's Clothes Talior
Originator: krubin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:50:30 GMT

My girlfriend is looking for a tailor to alter women's clothes.  She would like
to find someone who is located near Menlo Park.  Fast turn around and
reasonable prices are important.

Thanks in advance.  
--Kenny Rubin
krubin@parcplace.com
From: eap@leland.Stanford.EDU (Eric Perozziello)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: patent rights.
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:51:45 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

(UPI) -- Gaithersburg inventor Peter Tsakanikas says Japan owes
American inventors millions of dollars in royalties for certain gizmos
used in facsimile machines. Tsakanikas is planning to show up today at
the U-S Japan Friendship Celebration at B-W-I Airport Marriott Hotel. He
says he's owed 28-dollars for each of the eight-Million fax machines
exported from Japan since 1984. That's more than 208-Million dollars.
From: cjones@dbaccess.com (Carl Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: IS IT POSSIBLE??
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:13:45 GMT
Organization: Cross Access Corp., Santa Clara, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

From a "driving my car" point of view, windflow over auto bodies and just
 poorly installed/aimed "jets" cause much of the fluid to miss the windshield.
I hope that it was not on purpose.
However, as a motorcycle rider, too, I must say that I really dislike
other cyclists "splitting the lane".  I dont care if it is "legal".
I think it is dangerous, "unfair", and inflamatory.  70-90% of those
that I see who split the lane do it in what I believe automobile
drivers think is a "hot shot" fashion.  And like it or not, it makes
enough of them hostile to motorcyclists that it puts ME (and YOU) in danger
when I ride.  I would vote FOR prohibiting such action.
(this has been irritating me for some time; this finally seemed like
the time to say it)
carl
-- 
Carl Jones                        INTERNET: cjones@dbaccess.com
c/o CROSS ACCESS CORPORATION      UUCP: {uunet,sgiblab}!troi!cjones
2900 Gordon Avenue, Suite 100     FAX: (408) 735-0328
Santa Clara, CA 95051             TEL: (408) 735-7545