From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: can.politics,soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Americans on English schools in Quebec (Was: Quebec)
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:26:48 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <13572@grayt> grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray) writes:
>
>In article <BxxBE9.BCA@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:
>>In article <13533@grayt> grayt@Software.Mitel.COM (Tom Gray) writes:
>>>Now here is another example for the "Thank You Mr. Clark" file.
>>>This person is a perfect example (as if we needed another after
>>>Beauregard and Schuck) of someone living in ignorant certainty.
>>
>>Selective list?  I don't feel as an ignorant certain, but I feel
>>that you often are.
>
>I freely admit to ignorance about many things. I freely admit to partial
>knowledge of fewer things. I will not admit to certainty.

So, you will agree that you are totally wrong in this posting?
You misleadingly mix my opinions with that of other persons.

>
>Certainty is direct indicator of error. You were certian that the dreaded
>English exploited the helpless French in Canada before Confederation. When your

I pointed out some facts that were never discussed and other that were.
The point that was never discussed is that we (French-speakers) were more
more often victims than guilty.  In a few cases, some points were debattable.
For example, part of our problem is from tyranny of catholic church.
People were victim, not guilty.  Tyranny of church was exercised with
the help of the British conqueror after the conquest for the purpose of
concentrating fire on (future) USA instead of having 2 rebellions in
American colonies.  But, like Ponce Pilate in the story of Jesus,
the Brits used that tyranny to control the territory and helped to build
a wall of isolation among catholics while the brits merchants were
controlling the economy.  And instead of using their (LEGENDARY and often
not true) fairness to promote actual equality, they did nothing.  They
were the government, they were distributing lands, they were controlling
immigration, etc.  I do not say I am "certain", I just presented facts.
If your racist mind can accept facts, you have a problem and it is not mine
nor me.

>error was pointed out to you, did it change your view? No it only
>seemed to confirm you in your myth of oppression.

I can't change facts, I just can select other facts and present them.
They are so numerous.

>Now this completely apropos of the topic being discussed. Regional isolation of
>groups as proposed by Clark in his "Community of Communities" proposal will
>foster ignorance. Myths such as the absence of French schooling in CSQ or

I did not talked about that absence of French schooling.  In one posting,
I quoted an article from L'Actualite saying that NBers had school in
French but books in English until the 60's, this despite they are 40%
of the NB population.  This is a fact and this was never refuted.
Ignorance or your demagogy?  As I pointed it monthes ago, you are racist
and most of your postings demonstrate this, the one I am answering included.

>the exploitation of BC by a fictional Central Canada will 
>spring up. Out of these myths will spring certainty. Certainty breeds 
>intolerance.

Not exploitation of BC, but that of Alberta, was already discussed.
Central Canada policy of energy did not helped Alberta in that aspect,
but helped Ontario to have lower price of fuels during the petrol crisis.

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