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From: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Subject: Re: Friendly little poker games?
Reply-To: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 23:49:45 GMT


In a previous article, gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca () says:

>My own guess (MHO) would be that Starfleet pays in energy credits.  You collect
>credits, which can then be used to create food or other replicated matter; or
>used to run programs in the holodeck, etc.

Not to knock your idea, but why do they have to be paid something?
I think the whole point is that you don't have to be paid to do 
something you enjoy.  Not only have they done away with money, they
have done away with the entire concept of money.  People can do
anything at all they want.  Without the need for money, life becomes
much freer.  Personally, I would choose something rewarding, such as
Starfleet, that probably wouldn't normally pay that much otherwise.
-- 

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From: pinkney@spot.Colorado.EDU (PINKNEY PAUL CHRISTIAN)
Subject: Re: Star Trek heaven
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:45:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.162135.23690@walter.bellcore.com> kevink@fugitive.soac.bellcore.com (Kevin Klinge) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.152232.6535@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca (Edna Mueller) writes:
>|>  bbarber@sierra.com writes:
>|> 
>|> >Here in Dallas, aka Star Trek Heaven, we get 1 TOS and 12 TNG episodes per 
>|> >week. This is clearly the most favorable Star Trek viewing location that 
>|> >I have ever lived.
>|> 
>|> Ha!  Here in Toronto we get Star Trek even more!
>|> 
>|> 12 TNG episodes and at least 3 TOS episodes.
>|> 
>|> [stats deleted]
>|> 
>|> Does anyone get more than this?
>
>Ha!  You folks don't know what Star Trek heaven is!  Here in NJ, I
>get both the Philly and NYC TV markets through cable.  How about these 
>stats:

[more stats deleted]

>
>* these two episodes are the same weekly Paramount offering, so only one
>really counts.
>
>** sometimes during the week, ST:TNG is bumped for a Yankees game:-(
>
>Of course we all know only those who have every ST episode taped are
>the ones who are truely in ST heaven...
>
>-- 
>
>Kevin H. Klinge
>Bell Communications Research
>kevink@soac.bellcore.com


Oh ya, well my daddy can beat up your daddy. :-)

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From: jfaubert@fraser.sfu.ca (Jean-Paul Faubert)
Subject: Re: cloaking device
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:08:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.223205.8603@csus.edu> byron@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Byron Chun) writes:
>The reason I have heard most for the question, "Why doesn't the
>Federation have a cloaking device?" is that the Federation does
>not need one.  The Fed is interested in diplomacy and peace.
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
>Such a device would promote the image that the Federation is interested
>in "stealth" attacks and other covert activities.
    ^^^^^^^^^
Are we to assume that with with Stealth Bombers et al the US is not
interested
in diplomacy and peace but stealth attacks and covert activities?

----- yes this is a moot question------


>byron@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu           =====================================
>                                  | My employer will allow me to have |
>"It's not in my job description,  | an opinion.  They just won't back |
> but I'll do it anyway."          | me if things go sour.             |


followup to alt.usa.is.benevolent.*really*







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From: johng@lucid.com (John Gregory)
Subject: ok ok I meant to spell spellng...
Reply-To: johng@lucid.com (John Gregory)
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 00:16:06 GMT


"spelling" in my last message.  (or did I mean speling?)

:-p

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Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?   TROI!
From: ngsippel@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:58:07 EDT
Organization: Watch Ren And Stimpy or Else!

THE HOTTEST WOMAN ON THE ENTERPRISE IS

.
.
.

TROI!

LOVE THAT BOD OF HERS!  Plus She Can Read My Sexy Thoughts About Her Through
The Tube! :)

I love TROI!


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From: Clive_Camm@mindlink.bc.ca (Clive Camm)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Who was the guy in Star Trek 6???
Date: 27 Jul 92 05:39:09 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

The Klingon with the eyepatch who quotes the Bard is Christopher Plummer.  I
believe he is a Canadian actor.

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From: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Subject: Definition of canon
Reply-To: wct@po.CWRU.Edu (William C. Thompson)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 06:04:38 GMT


canon (n) 1. Excuse to continue a pointless and trivial argument
-- 

                        [currently under construction]
From: ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Klinon Who CARES!!
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:31:15 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Jul22.111103.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ashum@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>Not to drag out this thread but...isn't Kronos a Klingon MOON and not a planet?

No.  *Praxis* was the moon.

-- 
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From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Silly topic - TNG guests' other roles (was Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI
Date: 23 Jul 92 06:48:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Jul22.234848.5865
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

Hmmm,  Let's see... I seen the Romulan defector from "the Defector" in an
episode of "jake in the Fat Man"; I just seen the guy from season 3 who was
the alien/human Mr. Oxminkz (or whatever) who distroyed the whole race of
alines that attacked and killed his wife on the most recent episode of
"Quantum Leap"...  Matt McCoy (Devonano Ral) was also in a movie called,
Fraternity Vacation or somethig like that --*I THINK*

Dave
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From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Re: Look for Episode Name ... Pickard goes into trance
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:40:44 GMT

In article <35850001@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM>, stevek@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Steve Kauder) writes:
>
>Hi all,
>
>Could someone give me the name of the episode (near the end of the
>season) where Picard is "put into a trance" by a space probe.  While
>in the trance, he "experiences" life with a people that died ~1000
>years earlier?
>
>Even better, could someone tell me when this will be re-broadcast.
>
>I've thought more and more about this episode.  It really had an
>impact on me.  I'd like to watch it again and tape it.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Steve Kauder                        Phone: 303-229-3541 
>UTD Support and Learning Products   Unix Mail: stevek@hpfcmgw.fc.hp.com
>
>"Computers, Music, Astrology, The Course in Miracles, what's next??"
>


its called inner light and i agree it is one of the best episodes.

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From: rich.friedman@matrix.sbs.com (Rich Friedman) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Guinan's History (Hi
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:35:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: rich.friedman@matrix.sbs.com (Rich Friedman) 

>Now, if Q fears Guinan, and it would, shall we say, be a fair battle
>between a fully functional Q and Guinan, why would Guinan's people
>have been beaten by the Borg when Q toys with them?

Who says that Q toys with the Borg? In that episode, Q did absolutely
nothing to the Borg. Everything that he did was to the Enterprise and
her crew. He sent the Enterprise to its "rendezvous" with the Borg and
then removed the Enterprise to a safe distance. He never exercised any
sort of influence on the Borg.

Rich Friedman
rich.friedman@matrix.sbs.com
earendil04@aol.com

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From: marsup@cs.dal.ca (Mario Ouellet)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Cause & Effect: Boseman reported missing?
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:40:19 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <1992Jul27.170023.4582@ecl.psu.edu>, jam@ecl.psu.edu writes:

|> 
|> 	Some of the other crew probably experienced the same sensations
|> of deja vu, but the captain may have chosen to ignore any reports.
|> It was stated that the Soyuz class starship has not been in service for
|> over 80 years.  This means that at the time the Boseman entered the rift,
|> it was in its last months/years of service.  Therefore, it was probably 
|> the "worst" starship around meaning that Frazier was probably at the 
|> bottom of the "Good Captains List", ie. not too swift...
|> 
|>  

Just because I like arguing...

How do you come to the conclusion that the Boseman was in its last years
of service? The fact that the Soyuz class had not been in service for over
80 years is irrelevant: for all we know, the Soyuz class might have been
active for 30 years, and the Boseman might have been the first ship of this
class comissioned. 

And a ship about to be decomissioned implies a captain that's a little slow to 
compute, you say? I'm sure that must make a lot of anti-Kirk militants happy...

A more interesting question, in my opinion, is why was the Boseman not
reported as missing? I mean, I would have expected Data to come up with
something like "Captain, the Boseman was reported missing 80 years ago.
It was last heard of three weeks after it left Starbase". Oh well.
I guess that that wasn't really the point.

Sorry if this had all been discussed when the show was first aired.

MO
From: s892024@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Richard A. Muirden [GA])
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Fascist State
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:42:38 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre, Melbourne Australia.

jblackwo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J P Blackwood) writes:

>The Governance of the Federation is a fascinating topic...

>I seem to remeber speeches about Democracy in TNG and TOS

>Omega Glory comes most immediately to mind

Yes and No. In Omega Glory Kirk goes on about "We the People" and talks
more about the US consitution than the Federation (looking up at the
flag and all! *bleah*)... But I see your point...

>--J.P.


>Who was the Federastion leader in STVI?

The same old guy who was in STIV wasn't it? 

>What does Mirror MIrror or Yesterday's Enterprise reveal about this?

Well Mirror, Mirror was interesting... Kirk says something (in 'our'
universe) "We won't attack you for the dilithium crystals" or similar
when the council leader says that the Enterprise could raise the planet
with her phasers and take what they wanted. Meanwhile in the mirror
universe it was standard tactic to do just this! The "Empire" (NOOOOO
not the SW empire!!) ran as a dictatorship allright, and appeared to
be on military lines... but there was also a mention of some kind
of ruling body, but it didn't sound like a federation council (I will
have to review my tape!). I recall that when Kirk is in his quarters
with mirror-marta (sp?) and she asks him what his plans are she
says something like "Your plan will take you to the Admiralty..." to
which he says "Perhaps even further" and she says "To the ..." (whatever
it is meaning the ruling body itself)...

as for YE I dunno, I haven't seen it yet :-(

-richard


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From: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: TUC
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:27:27 GMT

In article <mblum.712344994@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, mblum@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Cerebus) writes:
> jcomer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan C Comer) writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Jul27.134740.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.
>>edu writes:
>>>Spock's reference to his relative (Sherlock Holmes) is "apocryphal".
>>>It's from one of the novels, I can't remember the title, but it came
>>>right out and said that Amanda Grayson was descended from  Sherlock
>>>Holmes.  The novel was a kind of peculiar mix of Star Trek and Here
>>>Come the Brides, silly, but fun.  A time travel piece.  I'm sure that's
>>>where the reference came from.
>>>Kellie Matthews-Simmons
>>>Internet:  Matthews_K@CUBLDR.colorado.edu
> 
>>I believe the novel referred to is _Ishmael_.  However, I don't recall any 
>>reference to Sherlock Holmes in it (but that was a long time ago and I'm 
>>already having trouble remembering the contents of TNG episodes when given only
> 
> Yes, the book was _Ishmael_.  But it never even mentioned Sherlock
> Holmes.  What it did say, and I think this is what's causing the above
> confusion, is that Aaron Stemple, one of the characters in the book,
> is an ancestor of Amanda Grayson.  It did this by, at the end, saying
> that Spock's mother's name (from his personnel file) is Amanda Stemple
> Grayson, and the reader is left to make the obvious inference.
> Frankly, there just haven't been that many references to Sherlock
> Holmes in Star Trek.  The only obvious one (apart from Spock's quote)
> is, of course, "Elementary, My Dear Data" (or did they leave out the
> "my" in the title?--making it closer to an actual Holmes quote).
> That's the only one I can think of, though there may have been others
> that I can't recall.
> 
> -- Matt
> +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+
> |  Matt "Matt" Blum            | Let's make George Bush the 33rd          |
> |                              |     ex-President of the United States!   |
> | mblum@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu  |                                          |
> |                              | I am not politically incorrect.          |
> |  (617)893-2820               | I am politically challenged.             |
> +------------------------------+------------------------------------------+

Oops, sorry.  You're right.  It wasn't Ishmael.  I went home last night and
re-read it.  I know I read it in one of the novels though, I think it was 
mentioned in a scene between Uhura and Sarek, some sort of secret meeting.  I
have my Trek-Triv ace looking for it, will post when we come up with the
answer.

Kellie Matthews-Simmons
Internet: matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu
From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: lynch's seasonal revi
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:05:17 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>Sorry to hear it.  I'd like people to at least understand it, even if they
>don't agree.

Har har...  ;-)

>The fact that there are kids?  Yes, that mostly is beside the point.  The fact
>that I didn't find the show entertaining, due *in some part* to the fact
>that most of the kids in the episode were no more than annoying, is much more
>at the heart of the matter.

I thought it was cute.  Even if they were constantly whining and living
out the true stereotype of an idiot kid, didn't you see the annoyance in
Picard?  I thought that was classic and did the trick for me.  I'm sure
you didn't but I loved the way Picard tried to raise the kid's self
esteem by giving away his pips, and the way he winged it by making the
smallest kid in charge of radishes.

>You're welcome to that opinion.  I'm glad *someone* liked this show.

Well, that somewhat cheers me up.  :-)

>I'm afraid I can't go along with that one either.

I really can't see how.  We get to see O'Brian doing some real authority
here, and this was the start of Ro's arrogance and persistance.  It also
showed how vulnerable Troi was and "useless" at anything out but
Counselling.

>In principle, yes; in execution, well...not the show I saw.  :-)

Why?  Did you find many plot holes?

>Everything appeals to *someone*...

I also LIKED (not loved) Cost of Living for the humour but NOT for the
concept.  That was poor.  But I found Alexander much more bearable in
this episode.  I liked his "Hah!"'s, but not his "The higher -- the
fewer"...


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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Re: Guinan and Bald Men...wrt TAII
Summary: About Guinan and Picard 
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:41:26 GMT

In article <Bs7y8u.AI@acsu.buffalo.edu> v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek) writes:
>> 
>>In the scene, Geordi asks Guinan (paraphrased) what it is that
>>she finds interesting in a man.  She replies "Their heads....I
>>have this attraction towards bald men."
>> 
>>The interesting part was that her explanation was that "....a bald
>>man was nice to me once when I was hurting...." or something like
>>that - does someone remember the exact wording??
>
>all this says to me is that she's got the hots for the Captain. then again, 
>what self-respecting female doesn't...?  <SMILEY FACE ALERT!!! :) :) :) >

I don't remember the episode, but there was one in which it was made
very clear that Picard and Guinan have had a relationship.  Does 
anyone know? Guinan is one of the mysteries of the show and hopefully
through Times Arrow part 2 we will learn a little bit more about her
and a bit about her relationship with Picard.  I hope anyway...

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From: v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (sandra guzdek)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Newthread: TNG Fashion
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul23.134207.1@cubldr.colorado.edu>, matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.edu writes...
> 
>Does anyone besides me wonder why the off-duty and civilian fashions
>on TNG are so incredibly DULL?  No colors, fabrics that look like 
>automobile upholstery, and lots of Issey Miyake rip-off designs.
> 
>Did someone in the future decide that it was dangerous to ones' health
>to wear interesting clothing?  Everything is so muted and mono-tonal,
>like elevator music for the body.  The only halfway decent design I've
[some deleted]

i agree! boring! the only reedeming non-uniform article of clothing is (gee 
you'll all be surprised to hear me say this) picard's jammies. <sigh>

 sandra g. + illustrator-for-hire, buffalo ny + v130qh57@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
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From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: cloaking device
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:36:08 -0700
Distribution: rec
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Jul27.070814.25169@sfu.ca>, jfaubert@fraser.sfu.ca (Jean-Paul Faubert) writes:
> Are we to assume that with with Stealth Bombers et al the US is not
> interested
> in diplomacy and peace but stealth attacks and covert activities?

That's always been MY impression...B-{)!!

-- 
Gabor Brach.        "We come in peace, shoot to kill, shoot to kill
Victoria, B. C.      We come in peace, shoot to kill, men."
(Lotus-land)                     _Star Trekking_
                                    The Firm

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From: orr@sura.net (Valerie Orr)
Subject: Going Price of TOS Paperback Books
Followup-To:  orr@sura.net
Keywords: TOS Paperback Books
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:03:33 GMT

Hello all,

    My mother is thinking about selling her TOS paperback books and is
wondering what the going rate is for these books.  This is not a post to
advertise the books, I will do that in a later post if she doesn't get any
takers in the local area.  She is definitely selling all of the TOS
paperback books numbered 1 through 60.  There may be miscellaneous books
relating to TOS up for sale, but she has not made a final descision.  If
any of you have any suggestions regarding selling price, please email me
orr@sura.net.  She has not decided whether to sell them as a set, or as
people need certain books.  Suggestions to help her make the decision
would be appreciated as well.

From,
Valerie Orr			SURAnet
orr@sura.net			8400 Baltimore Blvd., Suite 101
(301) 982-4600			College Park, Maryland  20740-2496
(301) 982-4605 FAX
From: gbrach@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: <None>
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:22:28 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Jul21.171551.11220@cs.sfu.ca>, kenward@cs.sfu.ca (Kenward Chin) writes:
> Hm, Robin Leffler was played by Ashley Judd, who rplays a recurring role
> on NBC's "Sisters".  Ishara Yar, I can't remember her real name, but was
> in a Wendy's commercial as a lady biker.
> 
> Kenward Chin

Ishara Yar was played by Beth Toussant (sp?), one of the better guest stars
on TNG.

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