HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Adam J. Weitzman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Fuel for the "Is it industrial?" fire
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:34:12 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University


Hope no one takes this too seriously. :-)

The Grammy nominees for Best Metal Performance, With Vocal are:

"Wish" - Nine Inch Nails
"NWO" - Ministry
_In_The_Meantime_ - Helmet
"Into The Void" - Soundgarden
_Countdown_To_Extinction_ - Megadeth

(No, I did not just make that up.)

Watch the flames rise... :-) :-)

I will say that I hope "Wish," being by far my favorite song released in 1992,
takes this category, although it is sure to go to either Megadeth or
Soundgarden, two bands I like too (SG much more than MD, though). I'd like
to know what Trent (or even Al) would say in an acceptance speech...


-- 
					- Adam J Weitzman
					  weitzman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu
"All our life is spent in this permanent brainwashed contempt."
	- Meat Beat Manifesto
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From: jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick)
Subject: Re: |\| | |/| - fixed, is it history??
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:17:23 GMT

In <jim.726870286@pi-chan> jim@ferkel.ucsb.edu (Jim Lick) writes:
...
>                                            Anyone know of a
>local place that still has one available?  I'm willing to pay
>for someone to pick me up a copy and send it to me if it is
>still available anyplace. 
...

Hi folks.  Shortly after I posted that, I got a lead on a copy available
at a Wherehouse in Santa Clarita, CA, and I should have my copy in a
couple of days.  Thanks to the folks who've offered to help find it for
me.  I'd also like to thank Sid in Indiana who offered to look for 
a copy locally.  Mail to you bounced, Sid, so I have to thank you in
public. :)  I'm still curious as to the status of the single, so if
anyone knows about that, please post it.

>--- jim@pi-chan.ucsb.edu --- Jim Lick --- jim@tcp.com --- jIngOrO@CaveMUCK ---
>--:):-- perfect little dream the kind that hurts the most -- |\| | |/| --:(:--
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From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: obscurity and 8-track cartridges...
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:21:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.035146.5728@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>
> It's really a shame that 8-tracl cartridges went out of style. They would
>be perfect for tape-loop recordings that meets my noise needs. 

Speaking of which, for those of you who have RE/search's _excellent_ "Pranks"
issue, there's an anecdote in the section on Boyd Rice where he talks about
just this sort of thing; he'd leave an 8-track of hideous noise (prolly
typical early NON-type stuff) on in a parked car at full-blast, then hie
away to a remote observation post to watch the effects on the unsuspecting
passers-by...

D.A.C. Crowell
Computer Music Project/School of Music
University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
(dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu)

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From: petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen)
Subject: Re: Ambient stuff...
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 08:02:17 GMT

In article <oLa3wB2w165w@sizone.UUCP> sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra) writes:
>.. Well, I couldn't exactly tell you what the general classification for 
>Ministry is, right now.  Ever since the release of Psalm 69, there have 
>been varying terms for them... I've heard heavy metal, death metal, and 
>by far the most hilarious one, Country and Western hick, which seems to 
>fit just about as well as anything would.  Still, I tend to use 

I think Al has been throwing around the term 'Aggro' lately... Though
of course you're right, labels don't mean much.

>
>.. As for Skinny Puppy.. well, no, they don't sound a hell of a lot like 
>Ministry.  

Except on a couple of songs on Rabies, which was produced by Al
Jourgensen. Most notably Tin Omen and Fascist Jock Itch.

>           A fun stereotype that I see fly around every so often goes 
>something like "Oh, it's the type of crowd that listens to Ministry,  
>Skinny Puppy, Nine Inch Nails, wear black, and headbang a lot".  So, 

I don't know about the Nine Inch Nails thing, but I think Ministry
and Skinny Puppy are so respected because they are the best at what
they do, though they do different things. As for the stereotype,
yeah, that's gotten pretty easy lately. The crowd at the
Milwaukee Ministry show was the worst, tons of surprisingly
young teeny-bopper girls, who seemed rather shocked that we
were trying to involve them in some physical contact dancing.
We left them alone....  I heard one of them saying to another,
'yeah, I really like Ministry and Skinny Puppy.' I could only
sigh...

>listening to them about a year ago, and thus joined all my fellow 
>suburban wannabe punks who wanted to get high atop the 'I'm more obscure 
>than you" Alternative Attitude Ladder, and thus impress the plebeian 

Not just in the suburbs either. Check out some urban art students...

I was recently at a gathering where I was met with an icy stare
when I mentioned  Soundgarden's (excellent) album; a short while
later the same people were raving about an Indie (underproduced)
Mudhoney album with terrible sound quality. Seems to me if they
really liked the *music* on that album, and not the just the
*concept* of Mudhoney (the 'hip' Seattle band to be into, don't
you know...), then they ought to REALLY dig Badmotorfinger. But
they're not going to put a hit album into their collection....

Or am I being 'more un-alternative than thou' now... ;-)

-- 
_____________________________________________________________________
 ...More than just ashes                                 Jim Petersen
When your dreams come true               petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
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From: sboswell@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Xianity is stupid)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: "U2 Negativland" shirts
Summary: Available!
Keywords: U2 Negativland t-shirts subversion
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:11:28 GMT
Reply-To: whatis@gnu.ai.mit.edu (....What Is?....)
Followup-To: rec.music.industrial
Organization: Universal Media Netweb

I just printed up the first batch of shirts!  I had mentioned them on
alt.music.alternative and rec.music.industrial a long time ago.  In case
you missed it, here's what they look like.

The front is a reconstructed version of the "U2 Negativland" cover,
in the original 2 colors.  The shirt sleeve is the Universal Media
Netweb logo in black.  The back is the "Corporate SST Still Sucks
Rock." from page 42 of "The Letter U And The Numeral 2".

I'm going to send 5 shirts to Negativland and 2 shirts to the Copyright
Violation Squad, free.

If you're interested in one, then mail me & I'll get a second printing
together.

Steve Boswell
whatis@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Too many writers confuse inspiration with being depressed and on drugs.
From: Gary Hill <G.J.Hill@ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: F242 - Live Target
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:56:41 GMT
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A number of people asked me to post the details of this "bootleg"
given in Melody Maker, so here it is from page page 4 of the Xmas
issue.

Front 242 have a limited edition "bootleg" album, "Live Target",
released by Guzzi Records - via the band's "real" label, Play It Again
Sam - this week. The album was recorded on F242's 1991 "Tyranny For
You" European Tour, and manufactured at an illegal Italian CD Factory.
A consigment was seized from the factory by Flying Records, Paly it
Again Sam;s Italian licensees, who then, according to a spokesman,
"became aware of the particularly high quality of the sound
reproduction and packaging of the CDs. Hence this semi-official
release". Front 242 are currently in the studio working on a new album
with producer Andy Wallace of Nirvana and Sonic Youth fame, for
release in the spring.

Hope this is useful,

Gary
From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: CLOCKDVA: Help me out, please!
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:31:46 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

And lo, darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> I think _Buried_Dreams_ is great, and I like _Man-Amplified_ almost as much.
> So will I like _Digital_Soundtracks_?  Or will I meet it with the same
> revulsion instilled by their earlier works?

I'd tell you if I could - could anyone confirm that _Digital Soundtracks_
is on general release yet? I know Vidar's already given a brief review of
it, but Vidar's copy was, I believe, a promo sent direct from Contempo.
Anyone actually seen _D_S_ in the *shops* yet?

-- 
			Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
	  Department Of Computer Science, The University of Edinburgh
   Rm 1410, JCMB, Kings Buildings, Mayfield Rd, EDINBURGH, EH9 3JZ, Scotland
	     Tel: +44 (0) 31 650 5165  Fax: +44 (0) 31 667 7209
From: feit@acsu.buffalo.edu (Elissa Feit)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Pigface
Date: 5 Jan 93 07:26:46 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

>In article <1993Jan4.181248.19202@usl.edu> jkd2886@usl.edu (Davis Jason K) writes:
>>	Has anyone else gotten the new (or newest) Pigface, "Fook"?
>>I bought it a couple of weeks ago, and have come to the conclusion that they
>>are better live.  I didn't get a chance to see them live (DAMMIT, everyone was
>>rattling on about Ministry, and Pigface was playing an hour away the next day
>>for less than HALF the price!!!).  From what I've heard off of "Welcome to
>>Mexico..." they are incredible live.  I'm not incredibly impressed with 
>>Fook, though.  Almost seems as if the recording quality didn't cut it.
>>Anyone else have any comments?

I thought their 1991 show was much better in some ways than their
recent 1992 show.  It *could have* been the venue, and it *could have*
been my mood, but they were very intense and tight a yearsback,
whereas they seemed much more exploratory musically, but to no avail,
this time around. I haven't heard fook yet, though I'd agree with your
assessment of live vs recorded (Welcome to Mexico...Asshole, Gub)

In article <1993Jan5.050340.4256@beaver.cs.washington.edu> tracyk@cs.washington.edu (Tracy Kimbrel) writes:
>I was quite impressed with both the live show and the new album.  I was
>disappointed to find out that Barbara Hunter, Cellist Extraordinaire was
>featured on only one track of Fook.  She played on most of the songs in
>the live show.  So if you like the second track of Fook, you'd probably
>like the show.  For comparison, I had the pleasure of seeing KMFDM about
>a week and a half before Pigface, and even though I liked KMFDM a lot, I
>liked Pigface more.

I didn't even see her. I got kicked in the head, hard, pretty early on,
and so couldn't get up close. The crowd was less rough at KMFDM so I had
great "seats" (i.e., the pit)....

brings me to another question: why the fuck do  some of you (primarily young
males) in the pit have to be so rough? Also, who;s behind the bright idea
of using this absolutely vile perfumed smoke machines these days (cough cough
hack hack, bitch bitch)

sorry, evidently the show affected me more negatively than I realized
2 weeks ago 8-)

Elissa Feit (feit@cs.buffalo.edu // {rutgers,uunet}!cs.buffalo.edu!feit)
              "Life is not all thorns and singing vultures."
                                         - Morticia Addams
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From: an3682@anon.penet.fi (jak)
Subject: front-line-assembly vid
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: rec.music.industrial
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:45:28 GMT

i recently saw a front-line-assembly video on the box,
a really amazing production, like mega-bucks spent.  So 
i guess it's from an upcoming sci-fi/cyber/tekno type movie,
but i've heard nothing about it.  Does anyone out there know
anything about it?? it looks pretty damn incredible ........
   

jak
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From: thf@sizone.uucp (Jason Kalra)
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:01:35 GMT

To: thf
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
From: thf@sizone.UUCP (Jason Kalra)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 09:23:25 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552
From: sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 09:20:39 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552

Forgive me for not quoting.

Re:  Can life get any worse than having to sit through Hank Williams Sr. 
at a Ministry concert.

Not really. The same thing happened here.  I, too, was overcome with that 
introspective 'get-me-back-in-the-womb' feeling.  I asked a friend why 
this sort of thing is done.  He didn't know, but I've assumed it's either 
to 1) Ca everyone down a bit, or 2) make the next band sound _that_ much 
better.  And when you have a band like Sepeltura playing, you'll want as 
much assistance as possible.  Holy.  

Jason Kalra - Sonic Interzone BBS, Toronto
Inet: thf%sizone@ee.ryerson.ca
From: dlm4731@zeus.tamu.edu (MAREK, DAVID LESLIE)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Christian Death
Date: 12 Jan 1993 11:02 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Pardon my ignorance, but could some kind soul please send me some info on
Christian Death.  I've never heard anything by them(or at least I don't think
I have)  I'm interested and quite curious as to what they sound like,etc...
Please respond by mail since I probably one of a few in the dark...

Dave
DLM4731@zeus.tamu.edu

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From: andrews@harlqn.co.uk (Andrew Shires)
Subject: Doubting Thomas in 1993?
Organization: Harlequin Limited, Cambridge, England
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:12:57 GMT


Anyone heard anything recently about the Doubting Thomas album that's
supposed to be released this year?

--Andrew
From: darling@cellar.org (Thomas Darling)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: CLOCKDVA: Help me out, please!
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:45:16 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

I keep hearing about ClockDVA's _Digital_Soundtracks_ CD, but nobody's yet
broken the big question down in terms that I can easily understand:

I think _Buried_Dreams_ is great, and I like _Man-Amplified_ almost as much.
So will I like _Digital_Soundtracks_?  Or will I meet it with the same
revulsion instilled by their earlier works?

Some kind cybersoul help me out, please.

^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^\\\^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~^~
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darling@cellar.org \\\ Prefer: cellar%darling@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com
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From: dpc2@po.CWRU.Edu (David P. Caldwell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
Date: 11 Jan 1993 14:53:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dpc2@po.CWRU.Edu (David P. Caldwell)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, petersen@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jim Petersen) says:

>In article <51a3wB3w165w@sizone.UUCP> sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra) writes:
>>Re:  Can life get any worse than having to sit through Hank Williams Sr. 
>>at a Ministry concert.
>>
>
>Come on. What is it with people that they can't appreciate Hank
>Williams? It's great stuff (and no, I am NOT kidding. Listen to
>it sometime). Judging from interviews with Al, he plays it because
>he LIKES it. It is also related to the fact that he is moving/

     I would just like to second this and hopefully add some clarity to
this discussion.  Al HAS said in interviews that he plays it as more of a
tribute -- because he thinks it's great music.  Other explanations are
merely speculation.

...Babbitt

-- 
David Caldwell (Babbitt on IRC)  E-mail:  CALDWELL@CWBIO.BIOC.CWRU.EDU)
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From: thf@sizone.uucp (Jason Kalra)
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-966-9906
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:40:11 GMT

To: thf
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
From: thf@sizone.UUCP (Jason Kalra)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:48:32 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-966-9906
From: sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry review, SF
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 16:28:58 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-966-9906

> Well, in Ministry's case, Al is a big fan of country music.  (It's been poste
> before, but nobody seems to pay attention).  Al owns a couple of country bars
> I've heard...
> 
> But it is true that most bands play real cheesy music between sets.  Probably

.. Hmmm.. [paying attention]... Really.  I didn't know that.  Yes, I know 
it's just filler music, but it can get irritating after time.  Come to 
think of it, Ministry can get irritating after a time.  
> because of reason (2) above.  It's just filler music, remember...

Jason Kalra - Sonic Interzone BBS, Toronto
Inet: thf%sizone@ee.ryerson.ca

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From: hafnir@athena.mit.edu (Mr. Hafnir)
Subject: Re: front-line-assembly vid
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 05:33:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.123704.4061@fuug.fi>, an3682@anon.penet.fi (jak) writes:
|> i recently saw a front-line-assembly video on the box,
|> a really amazing production, like mega-bucks spent.  So 
|> i guess it's from an upcoming sci-fi/cyber/tekno type movie,
|> but i've heard nothing about it.  Does anyone out there know
|> anything about it?? it looks pretty damn incredible ........
|>    

That sounds to me like the "Mindphaser" video. I saw it and it looked
pretty amazing to me. Except for the title of the song and the album
(Tactical Neural Implant), I don't know much more than you do about it.
I didn't get the impression it was from any upcoming movie, however; it
just looks to me like they had a lot of money and free time and nothing
better to do.

hafnir.
From: flesh@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: futher news on Lard
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 93 20:32:12 PST
Reply-To: flesh@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations


for the person asking about why there hasn't been a new Lard record in a 
while. Aside from being on sabatical, Biafra has just finished doing a 
documentery for HBO (I have no idea when it will be airing). In this 
documentry, he interviews members of the Unarian church, in San 
Diego. This documentry will also have Ogre interviewing tattoo artists 


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From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Ed Stastny)
Subject: Re: front-line-assembly vid
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:50:02 GMT

mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (infophage) writes:
>>     In case no one has said this yet, the clips in Mindphaser (I believe
>>that footage was used in other FLA TacNeuImp vids as well) are from one of
>>those super-duper "Anime!" (Japanese animation) films.  FLA apparently

>Yeah, the anime film is called Gunhed.  That's all I know about it
>though, as I've never seen the film or the video...

Well, yes, it's GUNHED that the clips are from....but it's NOT animation
(in the drawing sense) and thus, NOT anime (japanese animation).  It is,
however, a Japanese film. 
 
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From: dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell)
Subject: ORLANDO and DAYTONA readers!  Need culture pointers!
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 16:59:11 GMT

Well, the incredibly improbable has happened, and I'm moving to Florida to
take a new job.

I'd like tips on what (if any) underground culture may be lurking around
Orlando, Daytona Beach, and all points in between (I'll be living in Orange
City) in the way of clubs, kuul record stores, radio stations, and whatever
else might seem relevant.


-- 
*davE*   Making the world safe for intelligent dance music.  dave@bradley.edu.
########## David L. Vessell -- Bradley University Computing Services #########
Your shame is neverending. Just one psychological drama after another.-Erasure
From: front242@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Cerebus the Aardvark)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Review: K.Bartos New Project - Electric Music
Date: 11 Jan 93 04:31:00 GMT
Organization: Malice=


Hey, if anybody sees one, or wants to get rid of one, I'm truly interested (as
opposed to falsely interested) in this, being a Kraftwerk freak since roughly 
junior high....


Thanx.


--- WE@SEL

front242@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
00GDWESSEL@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU


"SEAT BEE SATE PLAY BLACK SABBATH AT 78!"
				-- NEGATIVLAND
From: baden@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (baden de bari)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Club in London
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 11:47:21 CST
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

mjk31124@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mikester ) writes:

> Odd Arild Meling <oddm@ifi.uio.no> writes:
> 
> 
> 
> >Does anyone know any Industrial Clubs in London?
> 
> >Odd
> >oddm@ifi.uio.no
 
        There's one in Camden Town called _Camden Palace_.  Most 
definately a place to check out.  It's like an old opera-house converted 
to bar... 5 floors 'n no chairs.  AMAZING!  It's definately worth 
checking out.  You may also want to check out the Marquee which is around 
Trafalgar (sp?) Square on Goodch (sp?) Street.
        Another place in Picadilly (I think) is the Hipadrome.  It's more 
of a tourist attraction 'n a dress up or get out type snob-a-drome, but 
find out what's happening on different nights cuz I was there on a good 
indi night.
 
                        hope it helps...
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