HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Bernhardt.Saini-eidukat@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bernhardt Saini-eidukat)
Subject: Re: Grammer Checkers:which one?
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:45:03 GMT

In article <12AUG199218463256@oregon.uoregon.edu> tacketta@oregon.uoregon.edu (Tackett Austin) writes:

[stuff about CG deleted]>
>The only part I don't like, is Wordstar's support. It sucks, to be blunt. When
>it was owned by LifeTree, there was an 800 number for tech support, now there
>is a toll charge (unless you live in L.A.) and hold lasts a _long_ time. 
>
>When I upgraded to MS Word 5.0, CG wouldn't open the files. I called tech
>support, I got someone who knew *NOTHING* about the Mac or Mac vocabulary. She
>didn't know the difference between launching an application and opening a
>document. She did *nothing* for me, but said they would send me a 'special
>filter' to open Word 5.0 documents.  We'll see.

I had great tech support from WordStar. I sent them an email to
76525.1065@compuserve.com
and sometime later I received a fax and later a free updated version
in the mail. 
The contact person's name is Karen Partovi in Tech Support.

I think the program's great.
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Subject: Re: Help! Stuffit Lite Problems
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:15:19 EST
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <1992Aug12.170049.29789@trantor.harris-atd.com>,
rcarvin@x102a.ess.harris.com (carvin robert 60184) wrote:
> I have fetched Stuffit Lite from several sources via anonymous ftp and
> run into the a problem each time.

Bob-

When I downloaded Stuffit Lite, I was successful the first time.  I don't
remember where I got it, but I don't think that is your problem.

If you download a .HQX file, you should be using ascii format, which is
usually the default.  Unless you use a program like Fetch, you will need
BinHex version 4 to decode .HQX files.  I believe Stuffit 1.5 uses BinHex
version 5 conversion, which is normally used to convert a binary file that
was uploaded with MacBinary.

I used a recent version of "Fetch" to download it.  Fetch automatically
converted the .HQX file for me, providing "StuffIt Lite Install", ready to
run.

If you have a nearby anonymous ftp site, I can upload my copy of "StuffIt
Lite Install", using MacBinary.  Let me know.

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
(407-867-1391)
From: pollard@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Tom Pollard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: AutoDoubler & Norton Filesaver slows Mac down?
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:57:32 GMT
Organization: Center for Biomolecular Simulation

gukgn@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Kim Guan Ng) writes:
>I currently have Norton Filesaver installed on my Mac and am considering
>buying Autodoubler as I am running out of HD space (who isn't :-) ).
>However, I remember glancing through articles fairly recently saying
>that AD slows down any machine which needs to frequently write temporary
>files such as Filesaver. Is this true, because if the slowdown is great,
>I may want to reconsider buying AD (or give up Filesaver).
>
First of all, I've never noticed a slowdown when the two programs are running.
To the extent that it does occur, it is because Filesaver keeps track of 
deleted files and this includes the temporary files that AutoDoubler creates
and deletes while compressing.  In other words, it is Filesaver that slows down
the machine, not AutoDoubler.  Presumably, this extra activity only occurs at
the time that AutoDoubler is scanning and compressing, which means that nothing
else is running, anyway.  If that's true, then the only noticeable slowdown
would be a delay in AutoDoubler shutting itself down when you start working
again, that is, when you move the cursor or type something after a long period 
of inactivity.

Tom

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From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Subject: Re: Positioning question for Word 5
Keywords: Word, question, frame, position
Reply-To: aland@cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: As little as possible
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:58:46 GMT

boyce@amo.mit.edu (Kevin Boyce) writes:

>So this isn't really a Word question, because it seems to be standard
>in all the word processors I've tried, but it bugs me....

>Why the hell won't text flow backward past a positioned object (now 
>called a "frame")?  Or, to put it another way, why is the page break
>calculated BEFORE the positioning is done?

Can't tell you why, but you can work around it...

>When I had 4.0, I called MS several times, and got several bogus answers
>from several morons, and one useful fellow who said, "Yes, that's a deliberate
>design decision."  Does anybody know if there's a way around it now?
>I haven't called MS yet, and I'll do that unless somebody here knows
>any good info about the situation.  

Just estimate the number of lines which will fit on the previous page,
and copy & paste them onto the page...  It's not perfect, but it
works.  This is what we did when I worked for a publishing company...

	-=Alan
From: cohill@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Andrew M. Cohill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Figure numbering in Pagemaker 4.2
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:01:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fire in the Mountain

It appears that Pagemaker has no convenient way to handle figure
numbering.  Is this true, or have I just missed some deeply nested
dialogue box?

What have other people done to get figures numbered correctly.  One
thought I have is to create a style for the figure title, include it in
the table of contents, and then manually cut and paste those TOC entries
into a List of Figures.

Of course, this does not address the other problem of correctly
numbering the in-text references and the proper sequencing of the
figures, but I am resigned to doing that by hand.  

I sure hope this stuff shows up in Version5.0;  it's no wonder Aldus is
losing market share....

Andrew Cohill

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From: ccyang@oregon.uoregon.edu (Chun-Ching Yang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Where to get street price of CompileIt?
Date: 17 Aug 92 04:41:00 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I would like to buy CompileIt ( a software to compile HyperTalk into XCMD).
I am looking the street price. Does anyone know where I can buy it?
Thanks

Yang 
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From: greeny@top.cis.syr.edu (J. S. Greenfield)
Subject: Re: Look & Feel
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 19:04:46 EDT

In article <0105011F.b2m9qd@dragon.enigami.mv.com> cory@enigami.mv.com writes:
>
>>Patents, on the other hand, may or may not be appropriate.  There was an
>>interesting article on this in an old issue of CACM.  (I don't have the
>>reference offhand, but if people ask, I will get it.)
>
>I would be interested in the reference.

I have the issue in my office.  I'll post the reference the next time I
drop by there.


[...]

>>>But hey, it is not skin off of my nose.  If people don't want to pay
>>>for new / good user interfaces, if I can't find a job as a user interface 
>>>designer, I can still find work as a software engineer.  I can use a cryptic 
>>>command line interface... can your mother?  
>>
>>But this *hasn't* happened, even in the absence of both patents and copyrights
>>for user interfaces (which is a very new, and according to my crystal-ball,
>>probably short-lived idea).
>
>Actually, user interfaces are copyrigtable under current law.  Sortof.
>It is actually a very grey area.  But it seems to work.  And the occasional
>suite against the clone makers generally keeps the UI cloning to a
>minimum.

I'd be hard-pressed to say that the current, very confusing and barely
establisheds ystem "seems to work." 

In any case, the process of litigating "copyright" infringements is quite
recent.  My point was that even *before* there were any such suits, development
of user-interfaces did not grind to a halt.

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but my d*mn system wants a 
*real* name!)                        "What's the difference between an orange?"
From: Paul.Conaway@p22.f20.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Paul Conaway)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Wanted: suggestions for Mac outlining application
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 00:12:43 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/20.22 - cmhGate UF Gateway, Columbus OH

On 8/6/92, David Ruggiero writes: 

  --> From: David Ruggiero <osiris@polari.online.comi> 
  --> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc
  --> Organization: Seattle Online (polari)
  --> Reply-To: David Ruggiero <osiris@polari.online.com>
  --> My SO has joined the local university faculty and will be preparing
  --> many
  --> course outlines for her classes this fall. She would, understandably,
  --> like
  --> to find a Mac tool to help with this. (She has Word, of course, but
  --> the
  --> outlining features in that program are too cumbersome and inflexible
  --> for
  --> her needs.)
  --> I'm a PC user myself :-( , so I don't know what to tell her to
  --> buy...I'm
  --> primarily thinking of something like ThinkTank (which runs on my PC;
  --> I'm not
  --> sure if it was ever ported to the Mac), but with automatic
  --> numbering
  --> and lettering features. Anyone have any suggestions or comments? What
  --> to look
  --> at, where to find it, what to avoid?
  --> Feel free to post or email as you wish. Thanks much.

  David, I'm currently using two different programs to do outlining. One is
called Inspiration by Ceres Software. And it is the one that I use the most.
It will also do freeform flowcharts and it is more of a brainstorm type of
program. But it also does outlining. In fact you can turn your outlines into
charts and vice-versa. The other program I use is More 3 by Symantic. I would
recommend both of this programs highly. If you have anymore questions email
me. 

Paul


 
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From: John T. Chapman <jtc1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Word 5 probs on Powerbook
X-Xxdate: Wed, 12 Aug 92 14: 22:25 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jtc1@cornell.edu
Organization: Office of Computing and Statistical Consulting
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:11:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.185724.24683@mail.cornell.edu> John T. Chapman,
jtc1@cornell.edu writes:
>Microsoft for their latest. Module updates and updater to Word 5.0a are 
>also available at several FTP sites, including sumex-aim.stanford.edu in 
>the info-mac/util directory.


Oops. I didn't have sumex open at the time and got the directory wrong.
The files are at sumex in the app directory; here's an excerpt from their
listings:

Within "/info-mac/app" are the following files:

Updater MS Word 5.0 --> 5.0a
-rw-r--r--  1 1016     20     55492 Jul  2 00:05 msword-50a-updater.hqx

New Spelling and Grammar Modules
-rw-r--r--  1 1016     20     357677 Jun 16 13:48
word-50-spell-updater.hqx

QuickTime support plugins
-rw-r--r--  1 1016     20     48550 May 10 14:54 word-movie-plugins.hqx


Sorry for the confusion this might have created.

- John

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From: leonardr@ccs.itd.umich.edu
Subject: Compression & File Recovery (Re: AutoDoubler & Norton Filesaver)
Originator: leonardr@diddley.ccs.itd.umich.edu
Organization: Campus Computing Sites, University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 05:01:21 GMT

In article <19279@ector.cs.purdue.edu> knapp@cs.purdue.EDU (Edgar Knapp) writes:
>> [AutoDoubler & FileSaver slowdowns]
>>
>The problem here is not so much the slow down, but the fact that
>FileSaver is rendered ineffective by programs that generate lots of
>temp files. This is because file recovery utilities keep a record of
>only the most recently deleted files. 
>
	This is true that if the programs have not been "synched", then
you will indeed have a lot of temp files in your file recovery list.  

	To this end, we work closely with the folks at Symantec, and Utilitron
to make sure that StuffIt SpaceSaver temporary files are _NOT_ tracked by
either FileSaver or Guarenteed Undelete.  I am sure that the folks at
Salient/Fifth Generation could do the same....

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From: smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead)
Subject: Re: SpinD.FKey problems...
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 07:40:19 GMT

tonyg@spock.retix.com (Tony "Salty Dog" Goulding) writes:

>Hey ho!
>I've just downloaded SpinD - the function key that allows me to spin
>down my PB disk at will.  I also downloaded FKey Manager 3.0 to install
>the FKEY, but it doesn't recognize the file. 
>ANy ideas, anyone?
>[N.B. the documentation is very system 6-oriented and it may be that the
>app is not 7-savvy]

   It could be that the FKEY you DL'd is just a ResEdit file with the FKEY in
it. That's why the Manager can't recognize it. Use ResEdit and don't bother
From: bbui@liege.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: GL/DL viewer for Mac
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:59:51 GMT

Hi netters, does anyone know where I can get a copy of GL or DL movie viewer?
Thanks a whole lot,
- Bach -
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Berni@wiwipc18.uni-bielefeld.de (BernhardStrohmeier)
Subject: QUICKTIME
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:33:41 GMT
Organization: Fakultaet fuer Wirtschaftswissenschaften, Uni Bielefeld, Germany

Hello,
I have just downloaded QUICKTIME, but I have no idea how to make it run.

B.Strohmeier

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: copy protection/licensing solution?
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<mwalker-110892145014@mwalker1.npd.provo.novell.com.>
	<1992Aug12.171307.16347@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<1992Aug12.194145.15595@serval.net.wsu.edu>
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:37:35 GMT

.net.wsu.edu> lhermens@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Leonard Hermens - CS) writes:

   >number would be unique since it depends on the users configuration AT
   >THE TIME OF THE CALL. Even if he/she were to give the password for
   >license extension to a friend, it would not be likely work on any other
   >system.

	 So what in this senario prevents me from copying the application
   for a friend?  The application has the "correct" password installed now,
   right?

What if my computer isn't at a phone ?

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From: gan@sample-o.eng.ohio-state.edu 
Subject: Where is MacX ?
Keywords: MacX
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 12:34:36 GMT

I am wondering if there is any ftp sites that has MacX (preferably version 1.1.7).
I tried "archie MacX" on my site but nothing was found. Could it be called
differently ? Thanks in advance for any response/comments.


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From: cory@enigami.mv.com (Cory Kempf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Tog's book (was Re: Look & Feel)
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 21:54:16 EST
Organization: EnigamI, Inc., Nashua, NH
Reply-To: cory@enigami.mv.com
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v5


In article <1992Aug11.140922.29743@actrix.gen.nz> (comp.sys.mac.apps), Bruce.Hoult@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <0105011F.aak32s@dragon.enigami.mv.com> cory@enigami.mv.com writes:
>> 
>> In Tog's book, he describes the processes that he went through just
>> to define a new interface element (a one or more type of radio button).
>> He describes his failures in that process.

>That's in the book?

Yup.  

>I just subscribed to D E V E L O P and read some of Tog's archived columns
>and that was one of them.  Is the book simply a collection of those columns
>or is there new material in it?

I believe that there is some.  I have not read all of his archived
columns, but (from the book), part of the reason that he wrote the
columns was to write the book.

>i.e. Should I buy the book as well?

I would (did).  It reads well as a book.  I think that there is some
useful information there.  And it is nice to have it all in one place.

+C


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Annon:	wi.5036@wizvax.methuen.ma.us

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your lifestyle values to see if they are really what *you* want."
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Subject: Re: Archie
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 20 Aug 92 10:46:02 EST
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <1992Aug19.192349.17475@nrc.com>, Mikey <mikey@nrc.com> wrote:
> What is it??? If it is something I want...Where do I get it???

Mikey-

Archie is a service available on several machines around the world.  It
consists of a database containing filenames and anonymous ftp sites.  You
can search for a file using a fragment of the filename, and it will return
a report of all the sites that have files containing that fragment in their
name.

To access Archie, telnet to one of the sites (NOT ftp), and use "archie" as
your user name.  No password is required.  The one I generally use is at
archie.rutgers.edu.  There is a list of other sites on the log-on screen.

To get info on how to use the system, type "help" at the prompt.  The
system has some sophisticated searching capability, but I generally just
use the "prog" command.  For example, to find sites with files containing
the fragment, "electro", I would enter the command as "prog electro". 
After a search that lasts 3 or 4 minutes, the list is generated, containing
sites and the filenames found.  If you use too common a fragment, the list
can get rather long.  A control-C will stop either the search or the list.

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Extension to inhibit superimposition of startup icons?
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:33:03 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


>I know there must be something out there that will cause the startup
>icons on my humble 9-inch SE screen to begin a new row of marching icons
>*above* the initial row to avoid the superimposing of icons.

 Startup Manager, part of Mow Utilities, can do this, and you get a bunch of
 other useful stuff too.

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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Looking for app to run DA's under System 7
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:09:47 GMT

In article <BtADBz.D78@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, aad35939@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A A DeGuzman) writes:
> 
> hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:
> 
> >aad35939@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (A A DeGuzman) writes:
> 
> >>I'm looking for an app to install a few (4) DA's to run under System 7.
> >>I found this program on mac.archive.umich.edu called DASh, but it opens all
> >>of the DA's when launched. I basically want the equivalent of DA Handler
> >>(from Multfinder - System 6) - just a File and Edit menu. If anyone knows of
> >>such an app, any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> >    Am I the only one who doesn't understand this request? One of the
> >great things about System 7 is the fact that you no longer need an app
> >to install DA'a any longer. You just drop them into your system folder
> >and let it do the rest. System 7 treats each DA as if it were an
> >application unto itself.
> 
> You know, I realized now that I should have described *why* I am trying
> to do this.
> 
> I am running a lab of Mac on System 7, and I would like to hide the
> System Folder. But doing so disables all of the Apple Menu items. I was
> trying to look for an app to hold all of the DA's, put in the Startup
> folder, and disable the Quit command on the app. Then the students can
> get to the DA's w/out getting a chance to muck around in the System Folder.
> 
> But I figured out the answer to my problem anyway. You can use Font/DA Mover
> to move DA's back into the System File under Sys7. Then, if you hide the
> System Folder, or quit the Finder, the DA's will still be accessible.
> 
> Sorry about the confusion.

Another possibility is to put the DAs on the desktop; then a user can
double-click the DA to run it, and not even have to use the Apple menu.
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Subject: Re: QuicKeys 2.1.2a/Solarian II Interaction
From: jlawrence@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:27:40 EDT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Aug19.084945.4136@proponent.com>, monty%roscom@think.com (Monty Solomon) writes:
> There is an incompatibility between QuicKeys 2.1.2a (CEToolbox 1.6.5) and  
> Solarian II 1.04.
> 
> I am running a IIfx with System 6.0.5.
> 
> Solarian II uses the API to turn off QuicKeys which appears to turn off all of  
> QuicKeys except for its processing of Command-Q.
> 
> Before installing the QuicKeys upgrade from 2.0.1 I could use Command-Option-.  
> to disable Command-Q processing by QuicKeys and then use Command-Q to quit  
> Solarian II.
> 
> With the current version of QuicKeys, Command-Option-. doesn't appear to  
> disable the Command-Q processing by QuicKeys and I can't exit Solarian II and  
> must shut down the machine to exit the program.
> 
> What is going on?  Is there a fix available?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Monty
> 
> -- 
> # Monty Solomon / PO Box 2486 / Framingham, MA  01701-0405
> # monty%roscom@think.com

I'd just try deleting the quit quickey.  There aren't all that many apps that
do not have it built in, and if you have any other menuless apps, it is sure to
mess them up, too.  

jamie
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