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From: d10590@tanus.cec.edu.au (Robert Chalmers)
Subject: ACUG - Australia
Organization: Pro-Net Australia
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 11:25:06 GMT

>Subject: Coordinator for Australian Coherent User Group
>Date: 20 Mar 92 21:19:23 GMT
>Organization: APANA / ACUG
>
>Unfortunately, due to personal and time committments, i am reluctantly
>relinquishing the roles of convenor of the australian coherent user
>group, and administrator of the acug bbs. This is a call for
>volunteers for someone to adopt these roles in my place. The role
>involves:
>Would any interested people please respond both here, and also by mail
>to both rjl@spectre.pub.uu.oz.au, and to stephen@mwc.com.


Assuming that no one has yet taken up the task, I can say that I have
been working towards this end for a while now. Indeed you may recall that
I have mentioned the fact from time to time.
I will be happy to take on the role.

I can provide a 24 hour dedicated data phone line,
tape backup/transfer, and mail forwarding, uucp transfer, and down the track
a bit, Internet access, and at present, Internet forwarding of mail
if you care to make a small contribution for my time and labour.
Perhaps I am wrong, but I dont see a lot of evidence of Coherent
activity here in Australia at present, perhaps this can be changed.

I have posted this to both rjl@spectre.pub.uu.oz.au, and to stephen@mwc.com.
So am awaiting replies?

To interested parties, you will note that my .signature contains a number
of mail addresses, via Internet and uucp phone. The blank phone number
is the 24 hour line I will make available to the ACUG etc.


At present the operational phone number for xanadu is not working for some
reason, am trying to get someone to trace the fault in the college.
However, I can be contacted here in any case.
regards,
Bob
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: An announcement? (was Re: How to remove name...)
From: kilroy@freddy.acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 92 07:11:21 GMT
Organization: The Blue Danube Waltzers

doug@mwc.com (Doug Peterson) writes:

> You may wish to delay taking your name off the list. Announcement of great
> new will be made in about a month.

Really? Gee, what could that be? Oh, I know, at last MWC are releasing
another shell for Coherent that emulates MS-DOS's command.com, giving us
all those commands like DIR and COPY that we've been missing for so long.
Great, I can hardly wait!

						- k
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Craig Harding         kilroy@freddy.acme.gen.nz         ACME BBS: +64 6 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:11:16 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Apr12.194232.10060@mendelson.com> gsm@mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) writes:
>Enclosed is a patch to the hs driver for 16550AF or 16550AFN uarts. 
>The diff was done with UNIX system 5 diff (the diff on my coherent
>system is broken (HELP!!!)).
>
[ ..driver patch deleted.. ]

If you have Coherent 3.2.1 or newer, you don't need this patch as it is
already included in the driver.

I am getting greater than 900 cps using PEP and V.32 at 19200 BAUD.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: norm@mwc.com (Norman Bartek)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: COHERENT partition ID
Date: 15 Apr 92 03:28:27 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

The partition ID used by COHERENT is 9.

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From: CHAMBLES@usmcp6.bitnet (JOHN CHAMBLESS)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: BUSINESS..
Date: 17 Apr 92 03:14:47 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

Never mind Bill Gates--if we can only get Borland interested!

Billy Chambless, University of Southern Mississippi
<CHAMBLES@USMCP6.BITNET>
chambles@eagle.st.usm.edu
From: weidi@esy.telenorma.de (Thomas Weidenfeller ESY3 3042)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Announcement (was: Re: How to remove name...)
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:44:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: frsun3.9204070644.AA08722
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>> From: Doug Peterson <doug@MWC.COM>

>> You may wish to delay taking your name off the list. Announcement of great
>> new will be made in about a month.

Coherent 386???
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: d10590@tanus.cec.edu.au (Robert Chalmers)
Subject: printing through a terminal
Organization: Pro-Net Australia
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 11:30:03 GMT

Can anyone tell me if its possible to send a print job to a printer attached
to a terminal on com1l. The terminal is an old Honeywell, with a serial
printer connected to a port on the back. It has a screen dump key, but it
would be nice if I could direct print jobs to it.
Many thanks if you can help.
Bob
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Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Re: Pricing
From: kilroy@freddy.acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 08:05:21 GMT
Reply-To: kilroy@freddy.acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit)
Organization: The Blue Danube Waltzers

In article <1425098@mk2.uucp> bob@mk2.uucp (Bob Law) writes:

> > > Has anyone from MWC hinted at a price for the 386 stuff anyway?
> >
> >When I was speaking to Tech Support at MWC once, they said "Oh, I don't
> >know, about 40 or 50 dollars..."  (for the upgrade)
> >
> >You be the judge.
>
> I was talking to Tech Support and asked if the new version would be about
> $500, and he said "Oh, no, it won't be that much.  It will be in line with
> our existing products."  At that point, I said they were going to tear up
> the competition.  He said, "Yep".

<thunk>

That was the sound of my chin hitting the keyboard. Sheesh, these rumours
about the ultra-low price of Coherent 386 must be serious. Egad.

I recently read through the 386 Unix comparison FAQ by Eric Raymond. One
thing I found interesting were the comments on support from the assorted
vendors. Frankly, they made MWC look like a collection of saints. Which
surprised me - how can MWC provide such (to me anyway) good support for a
US$100 product when the Unix vendors can't seem to manage with a US$500-1000
a system.

Which makes me think that Coherent 386 is going to be a very interesting
OS. Admittedly, the first release is unlikely to have XWindows, TCP/IP,
or support for the 386 Unix ABI (*), but with the kind of backup that MWC
seem to be willing and able to provide it should be a very strong seller.

							- k

(* of course, if someone from MWC wants to *officially* confirm that these
won't be present then please feel free, my address is way up there in the
header. If any other info like the actual features in Coherent 386 or the 
expected upgrade price should let slip I promise not to tell a soul!)
-- 
Craig Harding         kilroy@freddy.acme.gen.nz         ACME BBS: +64 6 3551342
"Jub'f Xvob?"
From: startrek@cs1.bradley.edu (Joseph Schaeffer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: How do you join the mail group?
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:21:37 GMT
Organization: Bradley University

I would like to join the mail news group, but don't know
how.  Would someone either e-mail me or post how to do so?
Thanks in advance.

					Joe Schaeffer
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He's dead Jim... You get his tricorder and I'll grab his wallet.
From: 70403.3165@compuserve.com (Richard Parks)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: modem problems with uucp
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:42:22 GMT
Reply-To: "Coherent operating system" <COHERENT@indycms.bitnet>

>Andre Heckman
> I am having trouble with my uucp operations ...

I'm no expert, but a couple of possibilities:

Are you using a 2400 baud modem?  Coherent 3.2 uses 'avatex' in L-devices
for 2400 baud hayes compatibles, and reserves 'hayes' for 1200 bps devices.
Also, on your next attempt try using uulog to check the progress of the
call:
         uulog -f mwcbbs  <return>

Use <ctrl> C to exit when done.  This will echo all uucp activity as the
modem tries to connect to mwcbbs.  It might give a clue as to what's
wrong.

Hope this helps.

Richard Parks
70403.3165@compuserve.com

"The trouble with realists is they think they know what reality is."
From: udo@umunk.GUN.de (Udo Munk)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Coherent mailing list
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:34:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: umunk.920411541
Organization: private user

Hello all,
i am a new news user. Would someone please tell me, what the
Coherent mailing list is, and how to subscribe.
Thanxs in advance.
From: Bret.Johnson@f1140.n226.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Bret Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Game availability??
Date: Mon, 30 Mar 92 17:29:00 EST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/1140 - T.C.I.S., Marietta OH

-U>From: alf@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
-U>Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
-U>Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

-U>I'm kind of new to the Coherent environment, but like it alot.  I checked
th
-U>FAQ for an answer to my question and couldn't seem to find one.  So I was
-U>hoping that those of you in netland could help me.  I got an index of all
-U>the
-U>archived games from comp.sources.games on uunet.  Will any of these games
-U>compile on Coherent, or has any of them been ported to Coherent.  I know of
-U>the
-U>few on MWCBBS and piggy, and ORCA, I'm more interested in nethack, rogue,
-U>umoria.  The multiuser (or single user) adventure stuff...  I know very
-U>little
-U>about C so porting is sort of difficult for me.....  Any help is greatly
-U>appreciated, and thanks in advance!!

    Rogue and Adventure have been ported over! They are on MWCBBS
    and I would guess PIGGY..

                     bret


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From: beaker@bass.bu.edu (Dennis Petrocelli)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Scheme and/or Lisp?
Summary: Has anyone ported either?
Keywords: Scheme Lisp porting
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:29:57 GMT
Reply-To: beaker@bass.bu.edu (Dennis Petrocelli)
Followup-To: comp.os.coherent
Organization: Boston University


	Has anyone ported any version of either Scheme or Lisp
to Coherent? The executable of Siod v2.7 (Scheme in One Defun, written
in C, available from world.std.com, src/lisp) is supposedly quite
small and might work.  I am considering moving to Coherent from
Dos but do not want to leave Scheme/Lisp behind.
	Any information e-mailed to beaker@bass.bu.edu would be
greatly appreciated; I'd be more than willing to post of summary of
replies for those interested.

Dennis Petrocelli
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: coherent <-> sco unix
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:07:01 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Apr12.104144.19707@visual.spk.wa.us> ssanbeg@visual.spk.wa.us (Scott Sanbeg) writes:
>In article <9204081618.19@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>
>>SCO tar should be able to deal with archives mad with both tar and ustar
>>on Coherent.  On the Coherent side, ustar or gnutar from MWCBBS should be
>>able to untar archives from SCO.  Unless SCO is broken.
>
>Okay, tell you what. Email a Coherent tar to me and I'll give it a whirl.

I'll send you a small tar file.  SCO should be able to deal with ustar, as
that follows the 1988 standard.

I take it that you are no longer running Coherent?

>>SCO has problems with sources from other "UNIX" systems.  These can be
>>alleviated by using the rcc compiler rather than cc.  The problem is that
>>cc is an obsolete version of Microsoft C.  Some includes may be different.
>>
>>SCO really isn't SYSV throughout.
>
>Well, the version I'm running now is SCO's February 15th release, Version4.
>The cc compiler is MicroSoft's v6 compiler, while rcc is the AT&T ANSI
>compiler. In dealing with source from the newsgroups, I've mainly had to
>add just an 'h' to the -O flag in the Makefile - -Oh, and a few of the
>sources required both the -DUNIX and -i386 flags to be added to the makefile.
>Otherwise, I can't think of anything NOT compilable. Side from a few changes
>for where to install... And I've compiled up a bunch of it.

And some stuff in the cnews sources needs to be twiddled.

Writing code on an SCO system and then porting it other SVR3 or SVR4
system can be a problem if the code was written for Microsoft C.

>Why do you say SCO isn't really SYSV throughout?

They've made a few changes here and there to suit themselves.

As an enduser system, SCO is fine.  There are a lot of shrink wrap packages
available.  I have a customer, who I am doing some consulting for, that has
a nice 5 user system using SCO.  It seems to be fairly reliable.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
From: alm@netcom.com (Andrew Moore)
Subject: Re: Coherent's C versus Ansi C
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 02:25:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Keywords: cc Ansi function def

In article <83710@bu.edu> beaker@bass.bu.edu (Dennis Petrocelli) writes:
>
>One prob: its cc seems to use the pre-ansi style function definitions,
>and most of the code I'd like to port uses Ansi and gcc style
>definitions. Has anyone written a program for sed, perhaps, to
>convert?  

	I have seen two packages with ANSI-C to STD-C conversion
	scripts.  Look in either the rc (Plan 9 shell) package
	distributed on comp.sources.unix (I think) or in the
	gnu ghostscript package.  I think the ghostscript conversion
	might not work with the Coherent's pre-processor.  Then
	again, I haven't successfully compiled rc under Coherent
	yet.  There are doubtless more choices if you look in a
	comp.sources.unix archive.

>Ansi-compliant compiler?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
	I thought someone quoted MWC as saying that it's in the works,
	but probably won't be ready in time for the first
	Coh386 release (??)
	-Andrew Moore <alm@netcom.com>
From: bob@mk2.uucp (Bob Law)
Subject: Re: coherent <-> sco unix
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:59:28 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MK2 Software - SLC, UT


>SS>No for the mountable diskettes. Like almost all systems, which have their
>SS>own particular filesystem formatting, SCO and Coherent's is not alike. On
>SS>tar: Coherent tar is a V7 type, yes? SCO doesn't show anything that seems
>SS>to deal with a V7 tar.
>
>In which case, I'm probably out of luck, right?
>
>SS>I see no reason why not. SCO is SYSV throughout, so there will probably
>SS>be some need (until Coherent386?) to change your #include locations. But,
>SS>if neither that or prototyping your C code in the small-model environment
>SS>of Coherent's poses any problem for you, then it can be done.
>
>Prototyping in the small model presents no problem.  However, the
>inability to exchange files via diskette _does_ present a
>problem.
>

Use the dos commands within coherent to copy coherent source to a
dos diskette and use SCO dos commands to copy from a dos diskette
to SCO.
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From: carljs@ee.mcgill.ca (Carl Jorgensen superuser)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: coherent prompt
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:58:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: thunder.1992Apr9.025801.779
Organization: Undergraduate UNIX Lab, EE, McGill University
Originator: root@ee470.EE.McGill.CA

Could anyone send me information on how to add the pathname to the prompt
in coherent. This would be greatly appreciated. My email address is
carlj@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: bishop@netcom.com (Mike Sherwood)
Subject: QEMM 6.02 locking up system intermittently
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 14:53:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

I have a 386sx/25 (Chips SCATsx/PEAKsx BIOS Version 2.2.0) running desqview
2.31 and qemm 6.02 and have been having problems with it intermittently
locking up the system.  when I am working on something (actually using the
keyboard) it will lock up without reason.  I have tried this under both DR DOS
6.0 and MS DOS 5.0, neither of which worked.  also, I have used the system
quite a bit both with and without qemm installed, and qemm seems to be the only
difference in the system configuration that could cause this.  has anyone else
had this problem or know what could be causing it?

--
Mike Sherwood
bishop@netcom.com
From: arnd@informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Arnd Gehrmann (Tel:4564,Raum:4203))
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: WANTED: Distributor DV/X in EUROPE/GERMANY
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:29:17 GMT
Organization: RWTH Aachen, Lehrstuhl fuer Informatik II

Is someone here, who can tell me the address of an distributor
for DesqView/X in europe (spec. in germany)?
greetings from Aachen, a town near the belgium boarder!
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: ATM fonts in DV/X
From: mike@batpad.lgb.CA.US (Mike Batchelor)
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 22:05:53 PDT
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

I'm reading the DESQview/X fact sheet that QOS sent me, and it talks
about a new version of Adobe Type Manager for DESQview/X which is
included with the basic package.

Is this thing gonna do what I think it's gonna do?  Will I be able to
use any ATM font with DV/X??  Local bulletin boards here in SoCal have
dozens of megabytes of ATM fonts!

I'm assuming that these are screen fonts only, but I would be
pleasantly surprised if they turned out be somehow printable, too.
Maybe a DV/X-specific word processor could use them for printing???
I can't imagine that WP 5.1 for DOS would be able to use them... or
could it?



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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: rstanton@garnet.berkeley.edu (Richard Stanton)
Subject: You can still switch to windows that start hidden???
Organization: Haas School of Business, U.C.Berkeley
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:48:47 GMT

I've been using the program DVPEDIT to allow me to start some programs in 
windows that are hidden. If I do this, pressing ALt-ALt to cycle through the 
windows seems to continue to count the hidden window - although it doesn't 
actually switch to that window, I have to do it twice to get away from the 
previous window. 

If I start the window unhidden, then later hide it, switching windows then 
acts as though the window doesn't exist, as I want it to.

This is a pretty minor problem, but is there a known simple solution? By the 
way, I use DV 2.42, QEMM 6.02 under PC-DOS 4.

Richard Stanton
From: s2942275@techst02.technion.ac.il (Yaniv Golan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: telnet under dv
Summary: telnet crashes once in a while
Keywords: telnet tn3270
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:46:31 GMT
Reply-To: s2942275@techst02.technion.ac.il (Yaniv Golan)
Organization: Technion

Problem: I am using telnet (tn3270.exe) under Desqview. It hangs up the
computer once in a while whith a QEMM displayed messages saying that the
program had done something illegel etc Terminate or Reboot. But it never
gets to processing my answer - a cold reboot is needed to get out of it.

Is there any special PIF setting needed for telnet?

Any help would be appriciated,

		Yaniv Golan

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Yaniv Golan
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: jack@solucor.uucp (Jacques Gelinas)
Subject: Re: The Use of DV/X
Organization: solucorp
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 18:27:29 GMT

michael@ecst.csuchico.edu (Michael Perelman) writes:

>I benefit a great deal from Desqview, but I mostly work on a stand-alone-
>non-networked pc.  Does DV/X have much to offer me?

DV/X has two main usage.

1-Run programs accross network, programs from
  other OS or other DVX PCs.

2-Run local apps. Currently there is nothing available. I suppose
  that few application should be available soon (word processor, spreadsheet
  drawing editor, etc...). If you develop graphical program and you are
  expecting to port to UNIX later, you should target DVX. DVX already
  support 32bit programming. With the proper compiler, it should
  be close to a real OS :-)


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview