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From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Brewers...
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:12:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Jul24.151243.24182
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <1992Jul24.083510.15350@honte.uleth.ca> savoy@hg.uleth.ca writes:
>
>>> tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan) writes:
>>>Tell me, Doc, what's wrong with Nillson? Not his knee again I hope.
>
>> zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove) writes:
>>I believe its his knee again...
>
>Hmmm. The latest USA Today BWeekly (which is now 2 weeks old if you're
>getting it mailed to you in Canada) says that Nilsson went on the DL with
>a sprained left (non-throwing) wrist.

Yep, you're right it was his wrist. But, he is now playing in Denver
according to the local paper.

Ken

-- 
 Dr. Strangelove      "You know your having a bad day when the fifth
 U.Wisconsin Milwaukee    inning rolls around and they drag the warning
 Major: Political Science  track." -Mike Flanagan, pitcher Baltimore Orioles
 Why that Alias? From the Movie Dr. Strangelove.
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From: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Subject: Danny Tartabull??
Reply-To: ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 15:58:28 GMT


The subject says it all.  He hasn't been playing.  Does anyone know
what's going on?

-- 
===============Joel Tscherne:  ac985@cleveland.freenet.edu===============
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From: nss3@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Noel Steere)
Subject: Re: Burks for Puckett: y/n
Reply-To: nss3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:39:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.211943.256@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed) writes:
>I'm having some trouble making a desicion, another team offered me
>Kirby Puckett for Ellis Burks, should I do it?

I was going to ask what kind of league you're in, but since the
posting I read before this one said that Burks may be out for the
season, I'll simply tell you to make this trade in a flash.

Not that it really matters what league you're playing in, since
Puckett beats out Burks in just about any statistical category you
care to name (including GDIP :-).

>
>                                           -Alex Reed

Noel Steere                  |...of the Dave Rossing fan club
GM/Manager, New York Knights |Knights' Run Total: 467 Runs in 93 games
Internet Baseball League     |Projected Season Total: 813  Target: 1000!
nss3@midway.uchicago.edu     |HECTOR VILLANUEVA FOR PRESIDENT
                             |(Heck, the Cubs sure aren't using him!)

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From: shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu (Charles Shopsis)
Subject: Eric Davis
Reply-To: shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Organization: Adelphi University, Garden City, NY
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:01:30 GMT

Eric Davis has been missing from the last couple of Dodger box scores.  Is he
injured again?

Charles Shopsis                         Internet: shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Department of Chemistry, Adelphi Univ.            (516) 877-4140
Garden City, New York 11530
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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt Bose "of Biscayzee")
Subject: Re: BLM Baseball
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 08:58:38 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico

In article <seRyRea00iUyQ1HO5W@andrew.cmu.edu> jm6t+@andrew.cmu.edu (John McDowell) writes:
>Last night I was rooting through some old stuff that I cleaned out of my
>parents attic and I came upon a newsletter and an ad for BLM (Big League
>Manager) Baseball. I used to play this game in the mid 60's. The game
>itself which I once had must of gotten thrown away or something stupid
>like that. I used to enjoy it very much and I thought it was much better
>than APBA. I think the makers of BLM were in Duluth and were called
>Negamco. They also made a basketball game (which survived and I still
>have), football and hockey. Anyway I would be interested in hearing from
>anyone who used to play this game or knows anything about it.

Made by the 3M company, right???  The Big League series was bought out (with the
rest of te line) by Avalon Hill, makers of the SI/Statis Pro series.  I collect
them, so I'm biased, but I like them.  But I don't think the current line has a
thing to do with the 3M line.


-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) - kbos@carina.unm.edu - I'm not the AntiChrist
I AM a Junior Stathead.  Flame me; it's fun!  I'm a shutmouthed, selfless idiot!
Latest Attempted Compiler of the R.S.BB FAQ - Now Accepting Submissions...(hint)
Have you hugged a Dan Gladden fan today? - Dave Rossing : .456/39/132 at Denver!
From: stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu (Steve Jascourt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: A wish for a computer game for the Mac
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:21:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Meteorology and Space Science

In article <21JUL199212464344@mary.fordham.edu> balzano@mary.fordham.edu (BALZANO-SILVIO) writes:
>In conclusion, I ask all the game makers out there: PLEASE, PLEASE, GIVE US A 
>GOOD BASEBALL GAME FOR THE MAC!  I feel a lot better now.
>
>Silvio Balzano

There is a statistically accurate baseball game for the Mac. It is Fantom
Manager, and you can order it and get more information from

Mike Rohe
1604 Manchester Xing
Waunakee, WI 53597
(608)-849-9596

A new version should have been released recently (I haven't kept track). The
previous version was cumbersome to use (but stats come out well and you can
set the scheduler and computer manager to play out a whole season overnight!)

Stephen Jascourt   stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu
From: tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Harris Fletcher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Fantom Manager
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:33:55 GMT
Organization: University Relations - Diane, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>There is a statistically accurate baseball game for the Mac. It is Fantom
>Manager, and you can order it and get more information from
> 
>Mike Rohe
>1604 Manchester Xing
>Waunakee, WI 53597
>(608)-849-9596
> 
>A new version should have been released recently (I haven't kept track). The
>previous version was cumbersome to use (but stats come out well and you can
>set the scheduler and computer manager to play out a whole season overnight!)
> 
>Stephen Jascourt   stvjas@meteor.wisc.edu

I just talked to Mike Rohe and he said this game IS NOT made for the Mac!!!
Where did this information come from?

-Todd
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From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Subject: More Brewer News...
Keywords: Vaughn, Gantner, Jaha, Diaz
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:16:47 GMT

Vaughn told to park it.

Garner is still very optimistic about Greg Vaughn, but is giving him
a couple of days off. Not a good sign. Definately keep an eye on
him.

Greg Vaughn

AB   H   2B   3B   HR   RBI   AVG
308  65  12    2   13    44   .211

Last 39 games, 19 runs.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jaha continues to play first base. Doing "OK".

John Jaha

AB   H   2b   3b   HR   RBI   AVG
51  12    1    0    1     6   .235

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Gantner offered Organization Job.

Jim Gantner's whose contract is up after this year has been offered
an organization job. With Seitzer, Fletcher, Spiers, and Listach
all expected to be back next year, Gantner is being pushed to retire.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

E. Diaz Called up.

Diaz was called up from Denver. Ruffin was sent down to Denver.
Ruffin is expected to be called back up in two weeks. Diaz was
called up for what I believe to be seasoning.

Diaz

AB  AVG
1   .000

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Cal Eldred Does well against CHISOX.

Cal pitched 7 inning and never gave up a run. He is doing well 
as the Brewers 5th starter. Brewers won the game 3-2.

C.Eldred

W-L   IP    H    ER    BB   SO   ERA
1-0  12.1  14     3     3    6   2.19
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Yount Count

Number of Hit as of 7/29/92.

2968 HITS. 32 More to go.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

That's all... If I don't know the answer Paul does, aka SALTY.

Ken

-- 
 Dr. Strangelove      "You know your having a bad day when the fifth
 U.Wisconsin Milwaukee    inning rolls around and they drag the warning
 Major: Political Science  track." -Mike Flanagan, pitcher Baltimore Orioles
 Why that Alias? From the Movie Dr. Strangelove.
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Trade made...
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:16:27 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

Probably no one cares, but what the heck...:-)

I expected to finish 2d or 3d at draft day, but am mired
in last having set a league record for number of players
injured (22) and largest DL at any one time (13)...

A contending team, though currently in 7th place, needed
some offense, and I'm looking to build up for next year.

We play slightly modified rotisserie - same pitching categories,
but on offense we use BA, SLG (will be total bases next year),
R+RBI and SB - CS.
In the following, Rn means regular contract and Ln means long term 
contract, ending in year 199n

The deal:

I gave up

Hurst ($16, R4)
Mercker ($2, R4)
Kal Daniels ($18, R4)
Eric Davis ($43, R4)
Milt Thompson ($11, R3)

for

Sid Fernandez ($8, R3)
Mike Perez ($10, R4)
Eric Karros ($10, R4)
Stan Javier ($10, R4)
Darryl Boston ($3, R3)

and the rights to Darryl Kile at $2 for two years

Obviously, Perez and Javier are not keepers, and Boston
is marginal unless he gets picked up by Denver, but
I think Karros at $10 is wonderfully priced and Sid
is a bargain if he can stay healthy.

Mercker/Perez was the key to the deal & I finally relented,
because I just don't see Mercker getting more than 5-10 saves
in Atlanta (though I do think there is a good chance that
he will be a closer somewhere in a year or two).
Hurst is solid, but not particularly cheap, and might move
to the AL any day now.  Kal and Eric are not keepers, and
are injury risks, but should produce more than Karros and
Javier and Boston.  Milt has given me great value, but is
a 4th OF and won't get enough PT unless he or Gilkey move
to first.

Any comments?  Did I rip him off?  I feel pretty good about
it, though I'm likely to lose one of my good players in
the expansion draft...  We have one new owner for next year. 
The old owners each are going to protect 6 players.
I've got some decent cheap players - Morandini at $1, Deion at $7,
Justice at $30 (I think it's cheap...), Zeile at $15, Sid at $8,
Karros at $10, Joe Oliver at $4, Reggie Sanders at $10.
Beck at $10 might be worth keeping.  Saberhagen and Greg Harris...

Anyway, it took us a couple of weeks to work this out & I think
it's going to be good for both of us.

comments welcome 

Dave
I also traded Alex Cole (R2) and Jose Offerman at $10 
plus the rights to Gary Scott at $2, for
Morandini at $1 and Deion at $7 to a team that really needs
the speed.
-- 
Dave DeMers			 ddemers@UCSD   demers@cs.ucsd.edu
Computer Science & Engineering	C-014		demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet
UC San Diego					...!ucsd!cs!demers
La Jolla, CA 92093-0114	(619) 534-0688, or -8187, FAX: (619) 534-7029
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From: dani@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dan Ichikawa)
Subject: Re: Dodgers/Angels Update
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 05:09:18 GMT

In article <l6osh8INNsbq@pollux.usc.edu> alexc@pollux.usc.edu (Alex Campbell) writes:
>
>
>
>LA Dodgers Update
>
>Mike Scioscia continues to struggle. Mike Piazza continues to tear the
>cover off the ball -- watch the September callups if you need catching
>help. I think Piaaza will see significant playing time in September, as
>I believe that Scioscia will be let go in the expansion draft. Piaaza could
>be a good $1 catcher next year. 

Question:  Does Carlos Hernandez have any future?

>
>somewhere. McDowell, Gott, Candelaria will split saves with McDowell getting
>the lions share.

Question:  What the hell is the story on Jay Howell?>
>
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From: kjohnson@morse.waterloo.edu (Kevin Johnson)
Subject: Where Do I Start? (Part 2)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:15:08 GMT

Contrary to what *SOME* people seem to think, the readers of this 
newsgroup have been a great help to me in my quest for knowledge.
They have both been courteous and informative.  I just wanted to 
say thanks to all those who posted/e-mailed responses to my request.

Kevin Johnson
From: alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: getting started
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:34:53 GMT
Reply-To: alird@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University

In article <B37211-270792162912@jmac.msd.anl.gov>, B37211@anlcv1.ctd.anl.gov (Jeff Eastman) writes:
>Two questions:
>
>1) Are there any leagues organized to play over the network? (I know only
>one other person that is interested in playing).
>2) Where would I find the magazine "Fantasy Baseball"?
>
>Thanks,
>Jeff Eastman (B37211@anlcv1.ctd.anl.gov)

Fantasy Baseball can usually be found in many retail magazine/newstand shop.
However, you can subscribe for around $10.00 for the 4 isssues per year by
writing: FANTASY BASEBALL
         700 EAST STATE ST
         IOLA, WI 54990

Another useful publication is the annual THE SPORTING NEWS 199? FANTASY
BASEBALL OWNERS MANUAL, which comes out in late January.
Organization: University Relations - Diane, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:52:35 -0400 
From: Todd Harris Fletcher <tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Simulation Games

What is the best board simulation game?  APBA? Strat-o-Matic? Persue the
Pennant? Why do you think that?

-Todd
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Brewers... Jaha, finally.
Date: 25 Jul 92 23:41:59 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

In article <36112@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tmarvan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Thomas Marvan) writes:

>Finally, let me say thanks to those who e-mailed me info on Nillson.
>BTW, John Jaha is allegedly going to play FB for the Brewers. Has he
>played yet, or likely to, and what are his stats like in the minors?

His minor league stats are GREAT.  He's been a terror for several
years.  He should have been in the majors three years ago.
OBP consistently over .400, SLG about .500 (.619 last year).
A little bit of speed.

His season last year, his best, has an MLE of .294/.358/.500
which puts him about 3d or 4th in the AL at first base.
He was hitting .321 with 18 HRs and 69 RBI at Denver (a good
hitters park in a neutral/pitchers league, I believe) before
being called up.

Tatum should be in the bigs, too...
-- 
Dave DeMers			 ddemers@UCSD   demers@cs.ucsd.edu
Computer Science & Engineering	C-014		demers%cs@ucsd.bitnet
UC San Diego					...!ucsd!cs!demers
La Jolla, CA 92093-0114	(619) 534-0688, or -8187, FAX: (619) 534-7029
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From: Jim Pinkelman <james.k.pinkelman.1@nd.edu>
Subject: Error Category in RLB Stats
Organization: UND
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:13:03 GMT

I posted this message to an earlier request for weird rotisserie
categories:

Error Category:

This is the third year of our league and the second year of using an
error category.  It works pretty well.  Each team is ranked in two error
categories: errors per at bat and errors per game.  Obviously the lower
the ratio the better..  The rankings from these two categories are
averaged and used to provide a 
ranking and points in one the error category.  (Bringing the total number
of 
categories to nine - 4 hitting, 4 pitching, and 1 defense.

We use both E/AB and E/G to take into account the fact that hitters who
usually bat early in the order get more at bats and to lessen the effect
of pinch 
hitters (who usually have very few errors but many games.

We used this as the ninth category last year and it worked so well we're 
using it again this year with no modifications.

------- More Clarification ------

We are a National League only league so we don't have to worry about the
DH.
If you are American League, this category would obviously increase the
value
of a player who is a DH; but since it is a free market system, his value
would
increase for all teams.

We require at least 90 games played on a Major League team at the
shortstop
postion to force teams to use shortstops who are active.  The comment
that 
"But it must create some weird distortions in players' values; an
error-prone outfielder who makes 12 errors is still better than almost
any shortstop."  is most definitely true.  However, without the error
category
this statement is also true.  The error category does reward a team for
having
a shortstop who makes few errors, and an outfielder who makes 12 errors
should
hurt a team somehow and will with the error category.

I will try to post last year's stats for all of the categories, including
the
error category when I get the chance.

I'd appreciate any other comments or questions

Jim Pinkelman
From: zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Brewers...
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:51:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1992Jul23.155131.17487
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <BruEDB.9FJ@news.udel.edu> brady@brahms.udel.edu (Joseph Brady) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.183942.714@uwm.edu> zarda@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dr. Strangelove) writes:
>>Cal Eldred is now the 5th starter for the Brewers.
>>
>>Plesac blew another game last night, adding fuel to the rumor that
>>he's on the way out.

More to this story...

Franco ended the game with a three run shot.
But what happened in the 9th, had a great effect on Plesacs career.
A cheap shot by Dicky Thon(not kidding about the name), caused
a bench brawl, that even included the bull pens. Dicky and S.Fletcher
were tossed from the game. Dicky did not look so good when he left.
Now Plesac hurls a home run pitch and blows this game in extra innings,
after the brawl. Well he was soundly booed for as he left the field.
Not much doubt that Plesac will be traded at the end of the year.
Garner and Bando are going to shake this team up.

Ken




-- 
 Dr. Strangelove      "You know your having a bad day when the fifth
 U.Wisconsin Milwaukee    inning rolls around and they drag the warning
 Major: Political Science  track." -Mike Flanagan, pitcher Baltimore Orioles
 Why that Alias? From the Movie Dr. Strangelove.
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From: shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu (Charles Shopsis)
Subject: Meachum vs. Frowirth
Reply-To: shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Organization: Adelphi University, Garden City, NY
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:59:02 GMT

The pitching stats in my league are: ERA, total stikeouts, Wins and saves.  I
have Kevin Gross of L.A. and Bobby Ojeda on my team, and they (and particularly
Gross) have been killing my ERA and not providing much in the way of wins
lately.  

I have Meachum of K.C and Todd Frowirth (spelling?) of Baltimore as reserves. 
I'm thinking about replacing one or both of these starters with one or both of
these setup guys, who have good ERA's.
My league has 12 teams.  I'm doing great offensively, but am in 9th place in
ERA and strikeouts, 4th in saves, and 6th in wins.

I would appreciate sage advice on this question.  

Charles Shopsis                         Internet: shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Department of Chemistry, Adelphi Univ.            (516) 877-4140
Garden City, New York 11530
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From: roth@ravel.udel.edu (Charles M Roth)
Subject: Re: Meachum vs. Frowirth
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:37:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.155902.5112@adx.adelphi.edu> shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu writes:
>The pitching stats in my league are: ERA, total stikeouts, Wins and saves.  I
>have Kevin Gross of L.A. and Bobby Ojeda on my team, and they (and particularly
>Gross) have been killing my ERA and not providing much in the way of wins
>lately.  
>
>I have Meachum of K.C and Todd Frowirth (spelling?) of Baltimore as reserves. 
>I'm thinking about replacing one or both of these starters with one or both of
>these setup guys, who have good ERA's.
>My league has 12 teams.  I'm doing great offensively, but am in 9th place in
>ERA and strikeouts, 4th in saves, and 6th in wins.
>
>I would appreciate sage advice on this question.  
>
>Charles Shopsis                         Internet: shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu
>Department of Chemistry, Adelphi Univ.            (516) 877-4140
>Garden City, New York 11530

I'm in an AL league this year, so I'm not up on how bad Gross and Ojeda are
doing, but here is something to keep in mind.  Meacham and Frohwirth have 2
and 3 saves respectively, so they're not going to boost your save totals
unless Montgomery and Olson go down.  By having setup relievers instead of
starters in there, you're likely to lose out on Ks and probably wins (though
it depends just how bad Ojeda & Gross are).  So it really all depends on how
badly Gross and Ojeda are killing your ERA and whether reducing that loss is
better than the benefits they can give you in wins & Ks.

 ----------------------------------------------------
| Charlie Roth          roth@brahms.udel.edu         |
| graduate student, runner, fantasy baseball manager |
| (not necessarily in that order)                    |
 ----------------------------------------------------
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From: pigeon@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stuart Schulman)
Subject: Re: Dodgers/Angels Update
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 06:40:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.050918.1707@uwm.edu> dani@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dan Ichikawa) writes:
>In article <l6osh8INNsbq@pollux.usc.edu> alexc@pollux.usc.edu (Alex Campbell) writes>>
>>
>>LA Dodgers Update
>>
>>Mike Scioscia continues to struggle. Mike Piazza continues to tear the
>>cover off the ball -- watch the September callups if you need catching
>>help. I think Piaaza will see significant playing time in September, as
>>I believe that Scioscia will be let go in the expansion draft. Piaaza could
>>be a good $1 catcher next year. 
>
Important to remember:  Players with no major league experience are, in most cases, not exposed to the expansion draft.  Guys like Mike Piazza are therefore
more likely to remain in the minors than in a normal year.

If there is an exemption for post-September 1 call-ups, I'd like to know.  
If someone out there has a list of expansion draft rules s/he could post,
it would be enlightening for all of us.  This will have an impact for the rest
of the year.

P.S.  Mike Piazza is no secret.  If he's not tied up in someone's minor
league system, he'll go for more than $1 in most leagues.  (Our league
was a bit extreme this year...someone bid C. Hernandez up to $7.  Piazza
shouldn't go that high, but he could be a $3-4 speculation.)

Stuart Schulman
pigeon@leland.stanford.edu


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