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From: kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu (Steven Kirby)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college,rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.baseball.college
Subject: Re: TRIPLE PLAYS (was Re: Help with a trivia question)
Keywords: tiguzz
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:34:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Nov19.023437.266
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

I know.  Nit pick, nit pick, nit pick.  But I am 1) a native of Louisville
2) a 1987 grad of Indiana University and 3) a former resident of Minot, ND
(Dale Brown's hometown).  U of L didn't win the NCAA basketball title in
1987.  Preacher Brown's crew lost to Indiana in the infamous game in which
Bob (Psycho) Knight slam dunked the phone on the scorer's table.  I remember
that year well.  I may have been the only basketball fan in Bloomington
who was rooting for Syracuse when Keith Smart hit his jumper.  You can take
the boy out of Kentucky, but you can't take the Kentucky out of the boy.  I
wouldn't root for Indiana with two engines out on the team plane.!

--Steve "Kentucky born, Kentucky bred, when I die, I'm Wildcat dead!" Kirby
kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu
From: daniel@acpub.duke.edu (Daniel Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Georgia 14, Auburn 10
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:34:35 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Nov16.203105.3467@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> edmondso@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Edmondson) writes:
><JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov15.192722.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
>>says:
>>>
>>>Georgia 14
>>>Auburn 10
>>>
>>>This was a close game with a controversial ending.  
>
>Also, Andre Hastings attempted to field a punt in the end zone.  He
>fumbled then recovered the fumble and attempted to return the punt.
>He was subsequently tackled for an apparent safety.  Did anyone see
>this on TV and get an explanation?  If AU had been awarded the two
>points, they could have kicked a field goal for the win, rather than
>run a play.
>
>
>Rich Edmondson, Huntsville, AL

Of course, one of Auburn's touchdowns came after an offensive lineman
pushed his own ball carrier into the endzone around the defensive back.
(This is illegal, by the way.) So, if the offcials were perfect, then AU
would have been down by 9 instead of 2.  
In reference to the missed "safety" discussed above, this is still not
clear if it _was_ in fact a safety.  Hastings' momentum resulting from
fielding the kickoff clearly carried him into the endzone.  In the NFL,
the player is allowed to do basically anything he wants if his momentum
resulting from fielding an interception carries him into the endzone, so
long as he doesn't come out of the endzone with the ball.  An example of
this situation occurred in this weekend's Falcons game as Deion Sanders
intercepted a pass on the two and his momentum carried him into the
endzone.  He threw a lateral to McKyer, who returned the favor, and
Deion fumbled the ball out of the endzone.  The Cardinals recovered on
the three.  The Falcons were given the ball on the two for the reasons
described above.

I do not have the NCAA rulebook here, but it is possible that a
similar rule exists for kickoffs.  Further, it is possible that
Hastings' knee came down in the endzone while attempting to retrieve the
muffed ball.  In that case, the question of a safety is moot.  

The officials never hesitated on this call.  They immediately
spotted the ball on the 20.  This doesn't exactly explain the situation,
but I suggest that the play might have been called correctly.

T. Daniel Crawford
Center for Computational Quantum Chemistry
University of Georgia
Athens, GA 30602
(Not a UGA fan, by the way.  Just a grad. student from Duke impatiently
waiting for hoops to start.)
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From: zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR))
Subject: Open question to Notre Dame fans
Keywords: n
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 00:23:47 GMT

How about if ND drops the Navy game from its schedule, and decides to resume
the series with Miami??? Navy hasn't won a game in this series since the 60's.
What do you ND'ers think??
From: DCS@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: NC STATE/WF & Bowls
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:11:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92321.171148DCS
Organization: Penn State University

Looking over the net today, I am eagerly looking for news from the Old North
State (or somewhere) about what the local papers and fans are saying about the
suddenly big season ending matchup between State and Wake.  Who'd a thunk it
last September?  Three of the four ACC teams in the top 25 are NC STATE, WF,
UNC!  Clemson, UVA, GaT???????  Wow....what a year.  Any information posted or
e-mailed on the STATE DUKE game, the upcoming STATE WAKE game and bowl hopes
for all will be greatly appreciated!  What about Carter-Finley for this weekend
.....is it sold out?  Should be an excellent intra-state headbanger.  Hope the
'Pack can hold on and end the happy Bill Dooley farewell tour.

Wish I could be there, but I must remain here in good ole Happy Valley for the
PSU - Pitt game that for some reason is on National TV.

Go Pack
Go Lions

Bob Clark
State College, PA
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From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: Cougars are going bowling!!!
Originator: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University, Pullman
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 01:54:03 GMT

KHQ (Spokane) has just reported that WSU has accepted
a bid to play in the Copper Bowl on December 29th in
Tuscon.  Our opponent is expected to be either BYU
or Fresno State.

Well, Dave, we made it!  And you even get to go see them!

Yeeeeeeeeeessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jim
-- 
Jim Jungbauer                 |  Go Vikings, Northstars, Cougars!
jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu    | 
EECS Department               |  "Nice move by Bellows... big drive... SCORES!"
Washington State University   |     -- Mike Emrick, 1991 Norris Division Finals
From: gt5448b@prism.gatech.EDU (James Corbett)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: What's up with Johnny Majors?
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:52:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov14.201201.24609@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dmoney@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dean R Money) writes:
>Harry Bloomberg writes:
>>                                       Last night's Pittsburgh TV news
>>reported that Johnny was dropping hints that if he's railroaded out of
>>Tenn, he'd be interested in returning to Pitt.

>Hold on a minute!  You haven't even given me a chance to start the "Johnny
>Majors to Coach at Auburn" rumor!


I thought he was going to replace Ken Hatfield at Clemson. :-)



>Dean.


-- 
--------
CORBETT,JAMES FRANKLIN   mail: gt5448b@prism.gatech.edu

It's a boring signature, but it's all I've got.
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From: pluto@stein.u.washington.edu (The Lonely Planet)
Subject: Re: Michigan - National Championship - Not with Moeller
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:38:09 GMT

In article <BxtCDL.37M@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jones@venus.iucf.indiana.edu writes:
>As a UM alumnus, I was very disheartened to hear Gary Moeller say that 
>guaranteeing a spot in the Rose Bowl was more important than having a chance to 
>win the National Championship. With an attitude like that he'll never win one. 
>How is he going to sell recruits on coming to Michigan with a goal of going to 
>the Rose Bowl when other coaches are talking about winning the National 
>Championship. This was the second tie he was happy to take this year. Lest we 
   He is looking for a revenge for last year's rose bowl i guess.
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: How Colorado could still win the Big 8, pt.2
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:17:45 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <wilbanks.721865359@spot.Colorado.EDU> wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:
>Colorado MUST defeat Iowa State (I think this is going to be one heck of a
>game. It all depends on the Cyclones controlling Colorado's passing game.

I don't think this is going to be a close game... at least CU won't be
surprised!!! Also, they are playing in BOULDER! That is the big difference.
Colorado has been playing without any interceptions in the last two games
which allowed them to win those.

Looking back at the one tie and the loss, there is one thing common about
both games.. Koy Detmer started! (They are the only games Detmer started!)
Since stewart is playing well now, I don't expect Cyclones to play CU
close. (I am not saying that Detmer was the *only* reason for CU's poor
performance, but surely he did his part well! He should improve with 
experience.)

Now, talking about NU, they have been VERY IMPRESSIVE at *HOME* this year.
But, in their away games, they lost to Washington, Iowa State( fancy that!)
and Missouri played real well against them! Missouri also played well
against Colorado, but if the NU team  played like they did against CU,
I doubt if the game would have been that close. This points to the
fact that NU is a really good team at home, but they aren't that good
when they are away.

What I am saying is that they will be in for some serious football when
they visit Norman.

Also, I heard some folks saying that NU was probably looking ahead to the
next game (or even OB!). Give me a break. You guys were beaten by a team
which played better that day. So try out on yourself some of that advice you
were giving out to CU fans a couple of weeks earlier!

Suddenly, ISU has become my third favorite team!hmm.. I wonder why!?!

>productive to the expansion and growth of the lesser sports). Colorado 
>will play in the Fiesta against Wash. St. or USC, barring the impending

I don't think Wash State will be playing in Fiesta bowl this season, esp
after this weeks loss. Anyway, there won't be a matchup between a PAC10
team and Colorado since Fiesta folks are interested in an east-west matchup.

>Dylan Wilbanks, Classics major, AND NOW Environmental Conservation!

Njan
From: n8443916@henson.cc.wwu.edu (John Gossman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: PAC-10 Eats Own Children
Date: 23 Nov 92 04:12:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Nov23.041242.24130
Organization: Western Washington University


	Well, here we are again, with no Pac-10 teams in the
national championship hunt by virtue of the fact that they have all
pounded each other all year and none survived undefeated (or even
one-defeated).  Those last week rivalries just KILL the Pac-10's
hopes year after year.  How many times have USC and UCLA and p
plastered each other in the last week either keeping the other
from going to the Rose Bowl and just upsetting the others chances
of a high ranking.  And how many times have the Cougars screwed
a good season for the Huskies.  Personally, when the day comes that
WSU is 10-0 and going for the Roses, I hope the UW loses to them...
but I wish the Cougar fans had the same attitude towards us.
	
	BTW, the 8 Pac-10 teams that are bowl eligible have a
combined 19-4-1 record against non-conference foes.  The losses
are Miami 8, Arizona 7, Nebraska over ASU, Texas A&M 13, Stanford
10 and Oregon to whom (Hawaii?)?  On the other hand we've
beaten Nebraska, BYU, San Diego St. (and USC tied them), Oklahoma
and Notre Dame (at least once, possibly again next week).

	-JG

Damn
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From: lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver)
Subject: Re: Michigan, ND, Miami etc ...
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway NJ
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:24:25 GMT

In article <Bxx2Er.Gn0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Henderson) writes:
>jfrederi@encore.com (Justin Frederich) writes:
>
>>rszczerb@boole.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba) writes:
>
>>>They almost lost to Purdue and they played a pathetic game
>>>against Illinois and went for a last second tie ... giving
>>>up any chance to win the MNC.
>
>>>ND, on the other hand, beat BYU, Boston College, and
>>>Penn State.  If they keep the string alive and beat  
>>>USC then I don't see why they should be ranked behind
>>>the Wolverines.  ANy other opinions ...
>
>>>		- rob
>
>>Can you give me any justification why the header has :
>>     Michigan, ND, Miami etc .. 
>
>>Oh about the other question, rob - maybe it's because ND has a loss !!!
>
>Buzz, wrong, try again.
>
>This doesn't wash.  fsu has a loss, but their ahead of A&M.
>
>Todd
>


Probably because they tied at South Bend - If the teams are even then
slight edge to Michigan for the tie at the other team's home.


John L
From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Roll Tide down the Polls!
Date: 15 Nov 1992 18:17:29 GMT
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Distribution: world
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In <JOHNDOE92Nov15.022844@crispus.inmet> johndoe@crispus.inmet writes:

> In article <dkm2.721803415@Isis.MsState.Edu> dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
> 
> i expected you to be a tamu grad.  why aren't you giving the top20 program
> close to home credit?  miss st has turned into a tough place to play, and
> ala went in and did the job.  (too bad to have to wonder what this game
> would have been like with a healthy sleepy robinson.)  i think that this
> means they should deserve to keep their place in the polls -- especially
> when a&m struggled against a houston team that lost to the smu shetland
> ponies by 25.  a&m doesn't deserve to drop, but they don't deserve to
> leapfrog alabama, either.
> -johndoe
 
  I hate to have to agree but...the UH was closer than it should have been.
That lousy SWC officiating, blah, blah.  Anyway, we can't ask to leapfrog
Bama since they did exactly what A&M has done all year -- exploit 2nd half
breaks to win the game.  But if FSU leapfrogs us becuase they got to play 
Temple (which isn't in UH's league), then i'll be pissed...


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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Subject: Re: By Thy Vomit Gently Heaving, Illinois
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:54:09 EST
Distribution: na
Organization: Penn State University

Congrats on the most intriguingly lyrical subject line of the year!


Jim Thomas
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From: shyam@netcom.com (Shyam K. Subramanyan)
Subject: Re: who's going to the Rose ball?
Keywords: n
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:35:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.173202.3374@athena.mit.edu> clin@athena.mit.edu (Chia-Liang Lin) writes:
>It seems to me that Washington had already been granted the Rose Bowl
>GO BUCKS!! 
>
>For the Ohio State to crunch, humiliate, and hammer  Florida in the
>Citrius Bowl.
>

First of all don't be sure about meeting Florida. Ohio state might
give up Rose bowl to Michigan every year.  But in SEC, the fight goes
on till the end.  So wait till Dec. 5. It is actually a shame that OSU
gets to play the #2 SEC team.  OSU does not deserve a team higher than
#4 SEC team.

 
-- 

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Shyam Subramanyan			shyam@netcom.com

A damn proud UF (The only real University in Florida) Alumni

God must be a Gator. He made the sky blue and the sun orange!
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From: J.M.Crant.1@nd.edu (Mike Crant)
Subject: Gator Gloating
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:13:50 GMT

     Well, I am one happy Gator.  After a dismal early season (1-2), the 
Gators have come back strong to win the SEC east and merit a #6 
ranking in the AP poll.  Life is good.  I made my second road trip 
of the season to see the Gators wallop Vanderbilt, and the Gators 
played very well.  Shane Matthews has never looked sharper.  He knows the 
system inside and out; he made super throws and GREAT decisions.  The 
young offensive line gave him the time he needed to choose the best option-- 
a luxury he didn't have earlier in the season.  Vandy is no defensive 
slouch; according to the Vandy fan seated next to me, they were ranked 
#18 in total defense before the Gator game.  The Vandy fans in general 
were very nice to the visitors (except the ones that yelled "roll tide" at 
me as I left their rather small and poorly-attended statium).
 
     The Gators have two big pre-bowl games remaining: FSU and 
Alabama (in the SEC Championship game).  The Gators will win at least 
one of these games.  FSU will be tough-- the game is in 
Tallahassee, and, as usual, the Noles are peaking toward the end of the 
season.  But if the Gators play as they did against Georgia-- and I think 
they will-- the game will be close at the end and the Gators may have a 
chance to win it.  Bama will also be tough, but the Gators will prevail in 
spite of Bama's home-field advantage.  The much-praised Alabama defense is 
in for big trouble against the powerful Gator offensive attack. Shane 
Matthews will be fired up, and I expect him to have a big game.  The Gators 
should score lots of points, and Bama will be hard pressed to keep up.  
Should be fun to watch a good offense work against a good defense.  To sum 
up: fun time at Vandy, might beat the 'noles, oughta beat bama. 

         Gooooooooooooo Gators.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Kordell Stewart, CU QB
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 07:08:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.223119.7481@sparky.imd.sterling.com> marko@IMD.Sterling.COM (Mark Olson) writes:
>I read today that Kordell Stewart set a number of passing records for the
>University of Colorado.  Yet, given his current status, sophomore I believe, he
>would have been recruited as an option Quarterback.  CU fans, what is Stewart's
>background?   Was he a passing QB/running QB/option QB in High School?  Where
>is he from?  Also, how do you feel he stacks up nationally against QBs such as

I think he played for an option team, but his passing abilities were known
to the coaches. He is from some school in Louisiana, same as that of 3rd
string CU QB Vance Joseph. He is a very good runner (less than 4.5 for 40 yard)
and is the style of play is very similar to Eagles Cunningham. He is a very
accurate and has a strong arm, and most of his problems with interceptions
earlier on was due to inexperience. I think he compares very well
with any other QBs and as a buff fan, I can't think of anyone else CU might
want as a QB instead of Stewart. (The main reason being he is a sophomore!
I have a feeling that he is going to be really good next year.) His record
as a starter is 8-0, the loss and tie for buffs coming when Detmer was starting
(which is not fair to Detmer because those were probably the better teams
we played, but his inability to scramble was obvious in those games)

>Torretta (sp) and Charlie Ward?  He seems to be a pretty cool customer for a
>sophomore.

No kidding... Also, if you consider the fact that CJ (Charls Johnson) is a
junior and Michell Westbrook is a Sophomore, I would think Stewart is going
to enjoy his job even better next year (these are the two receivers who
had more than 1000 yards of reception). Next year should be interesting for
the buffs. Also, their bowl matchup should be interesting!

>Mark Olson  || marko@IMD.Sterling.COM -or- uunet!sparky!marko

Njan
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Holiday Bowl (Re: HAWKEYE BOWL CHANCES)
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:24:19 GMT

In article <17644@borg.cs.unc.edu> morse@cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse) writes:

   In article <1992Nov16.150509@IASTATE.EDU>, rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner) writes:
   |> If Iowa beats Minnesota this weekend and
   |> Michigan state loses to Illinois, both very
   |> real possibilities, then Iowa will be (6-6) and
   |> will receive a bid to play in the Holiday Bowl.
      ^^^
      may

   As has already been repeated over and over here, the Holiday Bowl has
   an escape clause that allows them to decline to invite the Big-10
   third-place team if they have fewer than eight wins.  (My guess is
   that they want to any replay of 1984.)

   There's very little chance that a 6-6 team would be invited to the
   Holiday Bowl (or any other for that matter).

The latest reports in the Chicago Trib say that the Holiday Bowl has given in
and will take the 3rd place team regardless.  But I believe the formal
extension (they are past the original decision point) is this Saturday.

Bill
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From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: WAR OVER!!!! MIAMI WINS !!!!!!
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:04:08 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <of1KCji00WBOE32ZxM@andrew.cmu.edu> William Karamo Motley <wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>top five in Architecture, top 20 in Industrial Administration.  We're
>also among the elite in Drama.  Andy Warhol, Blair Underwood, Steve
>Bochco(Producer of Hill Street Blues, Doogie Howser, LA Law, etc.),
>Judith Light, Ted Danson, all graduated from here.  And yet, you don't
>.....
>
>Will
> 

I hate to say this, but I have tremedous respect to CMU and hence please quote
some bigger names next time.  The shows you've mentioned are just for yuppies.
Nothing big, no one knows outside US, and no critical acclaims from the
serious, non-yuppie minded.

For example, I am from U. of Michigan.  I'd quote these Michigan alumnis:

James Earl Jones - you know who he is, and the rest of the world also knows
Samual Ting - Nobel prize winner in Physics, currently holding a endowed 
              professorship at MIT and is director of European Super Particle
              Collider project at Switzerland, who confessed that he hasn't
              missed one single Michigan home game when he was a student there
              (and man he still go to a Michigan home game once in a while)
Jessye Norman - one of the most sough-after opera stars of our generation,
                won critical acclaims world-wide, everyhwre she goes the 
                house is sold-out
Gerald Ford - not the one who designed the Ford T-bird!              

No advertising here.  Just wish you quote bigger names next time.  (Oh man, I
am a CS major, and going to CMU is always a CS major's dream!)

- Louis