HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: Off-Leash Area for Dog Owners
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:54:15 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL

In article <1992Nov11.032259.24727@gagme.chi.il.us> rubis@gagme.chi.il.us (Dave Svoboda) writes:
>In article <BxIE20.9ur@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>|rubis@gagme.chi.il.us (Dave Svoboda) writes:
>|: 
>|: |Perhaps you missed the news this week...
>|: |
>|: |American Israel Public Affairs Committee...
>|: |is in total control of Clinton's transition team.
>|: 
>|
>|Nice selective editing.  You left out the part where the head of
>|AIPAC was forced to resign for having bragged about it.
>
>Wasn't the part that I left the basic idea of your article?  I thought I
>pretty well delineated your paranoid fantasies.  Anyone who is crazy 
>enough to believe that you have a point certainly can read the previous
>article, or contact you.

The problem is YOUR point is to cover a legitimate conspiracy in a]
smoke screen of belittling smearing sleaze.  Be editing out the evidence,
you create the idea that the conspiracy is a fantasy.  This happens to be
a very realy conspiracy and I simply offered the most recent public
new story to back up my statement.

If you would like further proof, just check into the backgrounds of his
major campaign handlers.  Just about all of them are or did work for AIPAC.
You will note in all of Clinton's ethics rules and proclimations he only
mentions controlling lobiests from foreign COMPANIES, never is a word heard
about foreign countries.  He would have to fire 90% of his transition team as
they all work for Israel.

js
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From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark)
Newsgroups: chi.general,alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Date: 10 Nov 1992 15:12:55 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.


In article <1992Nov4.161616.21762@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>I hope you're a big fan of deficit spending, censorship and all the
>other things that made this country so great.
>
>In your obvious hatred for George Bush and his administration, you
>seem to have completely overlooked what you chose in his place.  Four
>years from now, Clinton will be so much a lame duck that Jimmy Carter
>will seem to have been strong by comparison.  I just hope he doesn't
>so damage the country that it takes another 12 years to undo it.

In case nobody has noticed, this is NOT 1976, it's 1932!

Whoops.  Did I say 1932 again?  I mean 1992.

Darn I don't know what's come over me.  I get this weird eerie feeling of
deja vu, like we've been through all this stuff of the past decade and a half
60 years before.
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:09:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.021619.26869@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> albert@jomby.cs.wisc.edu (Joseph Albert) writes:

>After 12 years of the most bloated deficit spending, and most oppressive 
>censorship that this country has seen since the McCarthy era, can things 
>really get worse under Clinton?
>
>Well, yes, they could, but it is very unlikely.

So, you expect that the deficit is going to be reduced in the coming years?
Ignoring all other evidence that this won't occur, consider that the
interest to service the debt is a major, major part of our deficit today.
In 1992.  With tremendously low interest rates.

Now ask yourself what's going to happen when Clinton, who plans to
spend us out of our economic doldrums, begins his administration.  I
hope I don't have to do any convincing that his programs are going to
be very inflationary, which almost always runs interest rates up.

I don't remember what amount of the debt is kept in short-term notes,
but it won't have to be too much for interest rates to have a major
impact on that part of the deficit.



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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: chi.general,ba.politics,alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:37:30 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Nov5.020252.11192@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.181441.16820@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> prs9k@brain.med.virginia.edu (Phil Scarr) writes:
>
>>up!  When '96 rolls around and the republicans play the same game they
>>tried to play this year they'll see it fail as miserably as it did this
>>time around.  I can't wait for that Dan Quayle candidacy in '96!  Go big
>>D!
...
>In the first place, if you think that Quayle's gonna be a GOP player,
>you're on drugs.  Bob Dole is the only name you'll hear in '96.

Not to mention that Quayle had already announced his intention of
running in the '94 presidential election...



(I know, leave the poor guy alone.)
-- 
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        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: chi.general,rec.pets.dogs
From: rubis@gagme.chi.il.us (Dave Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Off-Leash Area for Dog Owners
Originator: rubis@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:05:48 GMT

In article <Bx761J.12D@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
|I really dislike domestic dogs 

News flash, Jack.  Few if any dogs are practicing Jews.  You don't
have to hate them, too.

		Svoboda
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From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
Newsgroups: chi.general,ba.politics,alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:51:47 GMT
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences

In article <1992Nov4.093336.22818@ils.nwu.edu> mccoy@ils.nwu.edu writes:
}(After 12 years of anguish/waiting some of us feel that we have every right
}to gloat for a day or two and your whining will not change the fact that
}Clinton won.  Ha.  We have the house, we have the senate, we have the white
}house, and we will probably have the supreme court locked solid in a couple
}of years.  Double ha.) 

And when we have double-digit annual price increases due to inflation again
(all that spending money for all those promised programs has to come from
somewhere, and there just ain't enough money in those darn rich folx to pay
for it all), you'll get the blame you bloody well deserve, you socialist
bastards.

Why the hell was this cross-posted to talk-politics.drugs?  Clinton's a
supporter of concentration camps for those that are convicted of violating
drug prohibition.  He's no better than Bush on this, and quite possibly
worse.


Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! - Think Universally, Act Selfishly
starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to enlighten
oneself and others." - Voltaire
From: panda@drktowr.chi.il.us (Andrea Campbell)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: Las Vegas Night Events?
Date: 8 Nov 92 10:31:43 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: DarkTower Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

lance.r.ogasawara (lance@cbnewsf.cb.att.com) wrote:
: 
: All,
: 
: I was wondering if anyone can tell me how I can get a list of
: "Las Vegas Night" charity benefits in the Chicagoland area. I
: have heard that they are quite commonplace but I never see them
: advertised. I'd really appreciate any help that people can provide.

The is a church in Glenview, IL. that has that event every year and
might be able to lead you in the right direction, the church is 
Our Lady of Perpetual Help.

Andrea
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: chi.general,ba.politics,alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:59:29 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <Bx8s7q.1Cw@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>
>>In your obvious hatred for George Bush and his administration, you
>>seem to have completely overlooked what you chose in his place.  Four
>>years from now, Clinton will be so much a lame duck that Jimmy Carter
>>will seem to have been strong by comparison.  I just hope he doesn't
>>so damage the country that it takes another 12 years to undo it.
>
>We are really screwed with Clinton.  
>
>His home state is on the bottom of the pile for average salary,
>education, teachers salary, insurance claims, lawsuits, etc.
>
>We're screwed.

Now wait, just a second...

Where was Arkansas _before_ Bill Clinton?

And before you fall for last weeks radio ads claiming that Clinton is
going to be bad for Illinois (because Acme Frame moved to Arkansas),
think about that one.  The commercial said, in effect: "Clinton steals jobs
from Illinois.  What will he do as President?"

Gee, I don't know...  He was Governor of Arkansas and "stole" jobs from
another state.  As President, I guess he'll just have to "steal" jobs
from the Japanese.  Of course, we know that nobody wants that...
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
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From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: chi.general,ba.politics,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Short-Term notes (Was Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!)
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance, short-term notes
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:09:12 GMT
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <BxIKI0.161@chinet.chi.il.us> ignatz@chinet.chi.il.us (Dave Ihnat) writes:
>In article <1992Nov6.010923.26989@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael
>Zimmers) writes:
>>I don't remember what amount of the debt is kept in short-term notes,
>
>Interestingly enough, Perot brought this up just before the election.  I
>believe some 70% of the debt is in notes that come due in 7 years or less.
>When it comes to business figures like this, I'm willing to believe Perot.

Presumably, some of these notes will come due during Clinton's term in
office.  I wonder who will get the blame...



Is anyone else besides myself annoyed that you can't become a non-partisan
election judge?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: akcs.phase@vpnet.chi.il.us (phase)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Date: 7 Nov 92 06:55:03 GMT

>Response 17 of 18 (951) by russ at gagme.chi.il.us on Fri 06 Nov 92 09:21
>
>>I hope you're a big fan of deficit spending, censorship and all the
>>other things that made this country so great.
>
>Censorship?  It seems like the Republicans have been awfully fond of
>censorship
>and persecution of non-politically-correct-according-to-their-world-view
>groups
>too... such as the abortion gag rule, FBI surveillance of dissident politica
l
>groups (such as CISPES), etc.  Can you say COINTELPRO?  I knew you could.
>-- 

Abortion gag rule??!  I would like to say that the rule should be changed
only for those seeking advice by professionals, who know the ropes in
killing children.  You think Democrats are the party of the future; on the
contrary, were on the verge of catastrophe!  You think that Religious groups
are muscling into everything when it is a reversed situation.

And just something like what Communism was in Russia before it's collapse.

There really is alot of groups trying to change history and the American way
of freedom in this country.  Abortion is an issue that will not be resolved
soon.. However, freedom of speech is going down the tubes.  Little by little
people are losing their hard fought freedoms to extreemists (not from the
religious) but from the Athiests who tamper with long historical realities
of America!! 

I have a belief in Jesus Christ as a personal savior and friend.  And
without the teachings that have been taught and exposed to me in my life I
would be like the large degenerate populas stiffing Christianity because it
pricks their heart.  Especially the Abortion issue; where doctors kill un-
born children for profit!  Even serverly damaging women in the process of
mutilation.  Maybe these political groups have perfect rights and reasons
behind your retoric Russ Price.  Maybe you should investigate "whys" instead
of pointing fingers like shooting guns in all directions.

Greg
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: barnhart@ddsw1.mcs.com (Mr. Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Re: chi Newsgroups FAQ [last mod: 11/6/92]
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:14:52 GMT
Organization: Evanston, Illinois, U.S.A.

usenet@chg.mcd.mot.com (Ron Heiby) wrote:
:
:It is believed that the Chicagoland news community is still small enough
:(and rational enough) that elaborate voting schemes are not necessary
:to control the newsgroup name space.  On the other hand, it is generally
:felt that the total anarchy of the "alt" hierarchy leaves much to be
:desired.  With that in mind, the following procedures are proposed.

All I can say is, if alt.* is your idea of anarchy, mebbe we should
replace the U.S. government with it.  Can't but improve things.

Aaron

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: mccoy@ils.nwu.edu (Jim Mccoy)
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Reply-To: mccoy@ils.nwu.edu
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 03:32:34 GMT

In article <lfgrsmINNli@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk) writes:
> In article <1992Nov4.093336.22818@ils.nwu.edu> mccoy@ils.nwu.edu writes:
> 
> >...and we will probably have the supreme court locked solid in a couple
> >of years.  Double ha.) 
> 
> Sadly, no.  Reagan/Bush spent 12 years putting conservative *young*
> judges on the court.  (I think 7 out of 9.)  How many of these will
> Clinton get to replace?

Actually, RR-GB only added 6 justices (Thomas, Souter, Kennedy, Scalia,
O'Conner and Rehnquist.)  Of these 6, you can probably expect
Rehnquist and O'Conner to leave within the next 8 years.  I would not be
surprised if the remaining 4 "liberal" judges leave within the next 2
years.  The NYT did a nice article regarding this last week sometime and
I am willing to bet that Clinton will add young liberal judges to the Court
who will be around for a while. 

jim
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From: e91petmo@odalix.ida.liu.se (Peter //odin)
Newsgroups: chi.general,ba.politics,alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Keywords: lame birds, Election, deliverance.
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:25:07 GMT
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden

mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>--- Although, with this
>President and this Congress, I could see tax rates that would make
>Sweden blush with envy.
Hopefully, there will also be a healthcare system, an unemployment rate
and a crime rate that each will make us blush with envy.

>-- 
>Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
>SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
>Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974






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From: kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: Changes at WLUP (was What happened to Brandmier?)
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:39:20 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Systems Development Corporation

In article <1992Nov10.180104.2488@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.220053.12897@sdc.com> kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki) writes:
>>This is interesting considering that Steve and Garry became a
>>team working the morning drive on WLUP-FM (before AM-1000 was
>>WLUP-AM).
>
>Are you sure about that?

Yep.  I distinctly remember listening to 'Fetus Updates' while getting
ready for school in the morning.

Cheers,
    -Ken K
-- 
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e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
"Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery"
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Re: Test
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 21:21:53 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

ddreier@amiganet.chi.il.us (Don Dreier) writes:
> In article <292wqB1w165w@pshrink.chi.il.us>, veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve
> King) writes:
> >Test post.
> >
> >--
> >Steve King (veck@pshrink.chi.il.us)
> >PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772
>
> just another test

Continuing a fine tradition...

-- 
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Data Communications for the Psychology Professional     data: +1 708 540 6772
From: Steven King <veck@pshrink.chi.il.us>
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Test
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 92 20:04:29 CDT
Distribution: world               
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

I have a cunning plan...

-- 
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Newsgroups: chi.test
From: maxwell@somesite.somewhere.org
Subject: Re: Test
Organization: Gizmonic Institute
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 15:23:30 GMT
Distribution: world               
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

testing the folloup...
Newsgroups: chi.test
From: maxwell@somesite.somewhere.org
Subject: testing
Organization: Gizmonic Institute
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:56:29 GMT
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

testing

Newsgroups: chi.test
From: maxwell@somesite.somewhere.org
Subject: Testing
Keywords: tset
Organization: Gizmonic Institute
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 14:39:41 GMT
Summary: this is a test
X-Posted-From: fnalo.fnal.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

hi folx.

Guess I'm feeling a mite testy... :-)


Newsgroups: chi.test
From: glass@devl.fnal.gov (Michael Glass)
Subject: Just want to see something...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Reply-To: glass@devl.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory
Distribution:  chi
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 04:38:36 GMT

Just checking something...
Newsgroups: chi.test
From: laufer@math.luc.edu (Konstantin Laufer)
Subject: test
Reply-To: laufer@math.luc.edu
Organization: Loyola University Chicago
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:52:00 GMT

test
-- 
-Konstantin [laufer@math.luc.edu]
From: dlg1@quads.uchicago.edu (deborah lynn gillaspie)
Subject: Re: Italian food in Chicago
Reply-To: dlg1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 16:45:24 GMT

I think you're remembering Florence's. It WAS wonderful. Florence retired
a year or so ago and just closed up the restaurant, I guess none of the kids
were interested in keeping it going. Tuscany is some consolation...
--Debbie
-- 
Internet:         dlg1@midway.uchicago.edu
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Newsgroups: chi.eats
From: rstern@eecs.nwu.edu (Richard A. Stern)
Subject: Re: Deli in Chicago?
Summary: Lake!  Lake!
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Distribution: chi
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 05:57:20 GMT

maxwell@fnala.fnal.gov writes:
>Another deli worth checking out is on Wabash, between Washington and Randolph,
>East side of the street.  I can't recall its name, unfortunately. 

valas@sdc.com (Chris Valas) answers:
>It's called Mort's and it's at 159 North Wabash.  [stuff deleted]
>-- you can look out the huge plate glass windows and see the El
>take the turn at the corner of Randolph.

That would be between Randolph and Lake, and the El would be turning
at the corner of Lake.  

Years ago I tried their intriguingly named inexpensive carry-out called
"Detroit burgers":  loose ground beef and chopped onions on a hot dog bun.
The price was right, but I think the joke was on me for being so cheap.

---Richard

Newsgroups: chi.eats,rec.food.restaurants
From: teg@uunet!tellab5!odgate (Todd Grinnell)
Subject: Re: Italian food in Chicago
Organization: Odesta Corporation
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:06:58 GMT


From your sig, it looks like you're in Evanston; Surely you've tried 
Dave's Italian Kitchen?  Inexpensive, large portions, very sociable
wait staff. The quality has dropped slightly since the 'good old days'
but it's still not much money well spent, IMHO

t-bone
-- 
Todd Grinnell   "Geez, Tolkien couldn't follow this plot!"| Odesta Systems
teg@odesta.com                 Crow, MST3K, Cave Dwellers | Northbrook, IL
From: akcs.plato@vpnet.chi.il.us (Daniel Lindahl)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Proposal for alt.fan.grease
Date: 9 Nov 92 00:55:03 CST

Hey, I'm all for it.  There's something about a midnight diner that is
entirely lost in the modern restaurant.  I would be more than happy to
tune in for reviews and recommendations.  I love a good greasy spoon.  I
don't care what you call it, but with the hassle of setting up a new
conference (and the probability that I won't be able to access it),
perhaps this board would be a good place for that kind of post.  Maybe if
folks looking in on crab houses and ethnic treasures would find something
they probably wouldn't search out in a grease based conference.  This is
about new experiences, right?  The "no's" can simply skip to the next
message.  If you do create one, let me know.

                      Daniel