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From: laroche@zariski.harvard.edu (Sylvain Laroche)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Stanford swim team t-shirts
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:04:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dept. of Math, Harvard Univ.

In article <1992Apr6.060523.18395@access.digex.com> bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) writes:
>
>Maybe one of you Stanford alumni can splain this to me.
>
>I watched the NCAA swimming & diving meet today on
>CBS sports, and Stanford was (unfortunately) mopping
>up the pool deck with the other teams. I don't think
>they lost one match.
>
>Anyhow, when the camera zoomed in on their (all too frequent)
>victory celebrations, I noticed that the backs of their
>t-shirts had a graphic of a classical nude reclining
>with the slogan reading "Suit on head" or something
>close.
>
>I found this interesting, and indeed topical to rec.nude
>(imagine that!).
>
>Does this imply that they train with their suits on
>their heads? Or that their head caps feel like swimsuits?
>Or what?
>
>
Actually, i recall reading about the Harvard swim team parading
around the pool with their suits on their heads before a
competition.  must be some sort of tradition in the field.
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From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Subject: Re: Public Pools
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:24:43 GMT

In article <rpaolino.229@polisci.pol.umn.edu> rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino) writes:

>In article <1992Apr8.084649.20682@ousrvr.oulu.fi> dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas) writes:

>>In article <1992Apr6.180527.21072@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> PATZNER@rhea.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Achim Patzner) writes:
>>>-> All true.  The public pool in Munich has certain hours for FKK
>>>-> (Freikoerperkultur -- literally "cultivating the body, free of
>>>-> clothing").  
>>>
>>>Not quite... but the complete explanation will be too long and too boring.
>>>
>>>-> I have
>>>-> never seen anyone in a sauna in Germany with a bathing suit.

>>>I have... and it was probably the most embarassing situation in that
>>>person's whole life. Just one question: Are other people really wearing
>>>CLOTHES in saunas? Towels maybe, but anything else?

>>YES!  In the US, some hotels have saunas with their pools and people are
>>expected to wear bathing suits in the sauna.  I normally take my suit
>>off in the sauna, but throw a towel over my genitals on the rare
>>occasion that someone comes in.  

>>One time at a Holiday Inn, i was in the hotel sauna and a woman walked
>>in wearing a sweat suit!  I suggested to her that she might be more
>>comfortable if she took it off, but she said she couldn't as she only
>>had her underwear on underneath.  I said that i wouldn't mind but didn't
>>push it or it would seem that i wanted to see her in her underwear or
>>less (Horrors!-).  So she stayed in the sauna about 5 minutes in sweat 
>>pants and sweatshirt and then left.

>>I didn't offer to leave so that she could strip.  I doubt she would have
>>even with noone else in there.

>>>Achim

>>doug foxvog
>>dfo@tko.vtt.fi
>>-- 
>>doug foxvog     
>>dfo@tko.vtt.fi   

That reminds me in opposite fashion of getting out of a hotel pool (in 
Southern California) to step into the jacuzzi/spa.  A young women was in the 
spa and suddenly looked very embarrassed as she quickly pulled up her 
swimsuit bottom.  I suppose I should have said that she didn't have to do 
that for my sake, but instead I just stepped in across from her, sat down 
in the water, and slipped off my suit.  She acknowledged it with a little 
smile and appeared to feel a bit more comfortable again.  I guess non-
verbal language works too.
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From: dharma@verdix.com (Manjeri Dharmarajan)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: nudist politicians
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:59:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: verdix.4508
Distribution: na
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR

Hi netters,

  A while back, somebody had asked if there were any politicians who were 
nudists, and I thought I would share a story I saw on KPTV-Portland last week.

  This was the 12 o'clock news, and they reported a story of a woman named
Carol Stevens(?), who as a city councillor in Richmond(?), California. To
supplement her income, she swims nude in a huge fish-bowl in a club called
"Bimbo's"!

  There were many shots of here swimming underwater, with the 'strategic' parts
hidden. The interviewed some voters, and most of them were supportive. One
woman commented that if she had a body like that in her 40's, she'd display
it, too. Others said it was none of their business what a councillor did with
her free time. One man (I think he was a reverend) disagreed, saying he would
try to recall her.

  The report ended with the anchors tut-tutting, saying "Only in California",
and "Thank God we are not like that in Oregon" :-(

	Dharma
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From: wsmith@isis.cs.du.edu (Walter Smith)
Subject: Seeking CO areas in Colorado (Boulder/Denver preferred)
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Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 22:58:47 GMT

Greetings!

Now that warmer weather is rolling around, my girlfriend and I would like to
find some clothing-optional recreational areas in Colorado, near Boulder if
possible. They don't need to be anything fancy -- just someplace to soak up
the rays and warm of the season. Please email me as I can't often access my
account. Thanks in advanced.

Walter
wsmith@nyx.cs.du.edu

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From: amy young <alyoung@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: fat people
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:03:01 -0500

In article <1992Apr13.082038.2202@vlsi.louisville.edu> CL234106@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (Y. CAO) writes:

>I realize that isn't entirely the issue here, but I do feel it is part of the
>issue. We <society> have established certain ridiculous norms, and too many
>people get upset when we don't abide by them. 

I know all to well about that.  I believe I told my story in rec.nude
about that.  And for the longest time, I was so MAD at "society" for
making me hate myself, and for driving me to abuse myself.  And that
was the impetus to say "screw society... "it" truly DOESN'T know what
is best."  And I've been doing it ever since.  

>HTe latter part of your post is right. But assuming that only a "fat person"
>could find beauty in someone and who believes we shouldn't judge by size <or
>appearances at all for that matter> is offensive to me.

This might have some weight to it.  Perhaps those who aren't Barbie
dolls do learn that there is so much more than the configuration of
the skin when they meet a person because they have realized this
because they've been persecuted because of the way they look.

However I think it's profoundly sad to assume that one has to have
incurred discrimination to realize this... and people wonder what is
wrong with our society? 

>Of course, I guess I do judge by size to some extent, although I have dated one
>or two people who were skinny, I usually don't find them as attractive.

Size really has nothing to do with it for me, it's "what you do with
it."  If I see someone who has greasy hair, dirty clothes, and is
skinny, I'm going to think a lot less of them than a smartly dressed
larger person who carries themselves with confidence and has that
"spark."  And once the clothes are off, it's that spark that
remains... 

>NOTE: I see a distinction between 20-30 lbs overweight, and 150 lbs overweight.
>But that's me.

A lot of people don't.  Go into a woman's dorm restroom and listen to
the whining of, "Oh god, I'm just SOOO fat.  I've got to lose those
five pounds before before <insert event here>."  Good god.  Want to
lose five pounds?  Come here... pssst... psssst.  Drink lots of water.
Hold it all day.  Weight yourself at night.  Then get up, go to the
restroom, and then weight yourself.  You'll have lost probably 5
pounds. 

>Lastly, I am enjoying htis aspect of discussions. I would much rather read
>these discussions than those that simply give directions to beaches I can not
>afford to travel too.
>Tom Stevens <borrowing a freinds account>

No kidding... on various newsgroups, people bitch if there is no
conversation.  Then, when something goes on for more than five posts,
someone complains that they're sick of reading it.  Go figure. 

amy
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	       		Ignorance and prejudice, and fear, walk hand in hand."
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From: glenm@bnr.ca (Glen Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Prince Edward Island
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:58:21 GMT
Reply-To: glenm@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <s369pINN1bc@network.ucsd.edu>, middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:
|> 
|> Someone ask me to post a question:
|> 
|>        Does anyone know of CO beaches in Prince Edward Island?

Yes. And no.

Notwithstanding the Sears ad, which suggested a nudist club on PEI,
there doesn't appear to be one. At least, I haven't found it yet.
Perhaps I should ask Sears if they made it up ...

When I went to PEI, I dropped in on a tourism office, and asked them
whether there was a club, and after I explained to them what naturism
was, I got a very strange look, and a very prim response. I left
rather quickly, as it looked like they were debating whether to call
the cops 8-).

Which just goes to prove: don't believe everything in advertisments.

However, I DON'T SUGGEST YOU DO THIS BUT some people I WON'T NAME
NAMES have been know to I REALLY AM NOT ADVISING THIS walk out
along the beaches at Cavendish STAY OFF THE DUNES and get far enough
away from people to get closer to nature. It is illegal, and you
can get arrested. There is also a provincial park with a large
beach on the east coast of the island.

I've never done this, and I don't have the pictures to prove it.
Really.

An odd thing about PEI. Unlike most other places, almost all PEI
is owned by someone - there is no wilderness, crwon land, whatever.
And the people, on the whole, are very conservative. This is just
my opinion, based on what I saw while there. I'd love to be wrong
on this one.

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Glen Martin              Bell-Northern Research          Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Phone : (613) 763-7299   Fax: (613) 763-2626             Internet: glenm@bnr.ca
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From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Prince Edward Island
Date: 10 Apr 1992 04:41:29 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu



Someone ask me to post a question:

       Does anyone know of CO beaches in Prince Edward Island?

Please post replys because the requestor did not give me permission
to post his email address and I will not forward mail to him since
I just now deleted his letter to me along with his email address.

-- 
	Thomas Earl Middleton
	middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu
	aka Happy Bare
From: ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: fat people
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:58:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr13.005832.8731
Reply-To: ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)



I still say that the people who say we shouldn't judge people by their
size and that fat is beautiful are the fat people themselves,after all,they
wouldn't put themselves down and we are all beautiful to ourselves.
If they're happy with the way they look,the it's fine.To each his own,we 
shouldn't try to force our own beliefs on other people and I'm not here,this
is just my opinion.
Can't we end this damn discussion of women more modest,etc on here.
It's so boring reading the same thing from different people everyday.
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From: steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Steve Pierce)
Subject: Update on Playalinda
Keywords: Update, Playalinda
Organization: We don't need no stinkin' batches!
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:44:58 GMT

John Boteler had asked about something he had heard about Wendel Simpson,
head honcho at Canaveral Seashores National Park (which contains Playalinda and
Apollo CO beaches) asking for concurrent jurisdiction to curb overt sexual
activity on the beach, specifically Playalinda.

Well, I spoke with Marion Lacy, "beach mayor" of Playalinda, earlier this
evening.  Militant gays do seem to be a problem at Apollo - the rangers don't
know how to deal with them and may call the sheriff in to deal with them, which
of course, may cause problems for people enjoying the beach nude and NOT 
engaging in any sexual activities.  This type of publicity we DON'T need.

Marion feels that Simpson is not the problem, but the rangers and one in
particular, at that (He is unfriendly and the gays are very antagonistic toward
him).  Overt sexual activity and crossing the dunes has been a problem for
months (it was what almost got the beach closed last fall) and may lose us our
beach (Playalinda is currently closed due to the shuttle sitting on the launch
pad).

Please people, if you come to Florida (or you know those that do), use your
heads!!  That's what the Free Beach Etiquette is all about!  Have your sex at
home.  Stay off the dunes!! 

I have nothing against gays but this angers me (I know they probably
aren't naturists/nudists and I'm preaching to the saved..but I need to say it).

[John, there has been nothing in the papers here.  What was your source?]

Yours, naturally,
  Steve
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steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us     Florida
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From: magic@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: A "common" request?
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:11:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: drycas.1992Apr6.191114.859
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Hello,

i have a simple and (most likely) common request..


i and my SO would like any and all information about CO sites..

be it camping, beaches.. whatever.. :)


thanks.. 

 --David Tyler
    

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From: PATZNER@rhea.informatik.uni-bonn.de (Achim Patzner)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Public Pools
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:05:27 GMT
Organization: University of Ulm, FRG
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

-> All true.  The public pool in Munich has certain hours for FKK
-> (Freikoerperkultur -- literally "cultivating the body, free of
-> clothing").  

Not quite... but the complete explanation will be too long and too boring.

-> I have
-> never seen anyone in a sauna in Germany with a bathing suit.

I have... and it was probably the most embarassing situation in that
person's whole life. Just one question: Are other people really wearing
CLOTHES in saunas? Towels maybe, but anything else?

Achim
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: amy young <alyoung@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Women more modest?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:51:48 -0500

In article <s38jrINN1ss@network.ucsd.edu> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:

>I don't think anyone goes to a nudist/naturis resort to please your eye.
>I've earned my right to be lazy and to be a couch potato if I so desire.
>I enjoy eating.  I appreciate the mental beauty of any person who isn't
>ashamed to be nude, irregardless of what their physique is.

Tom Middleton, I think I love you.  =)

No, seriously, I agree... I didn't want to say so, because I have a
tendency to go overboard and get flames coming out of my nose on this
subject, but what is a "good" body image to you (the person who
refered to "tanned, toned bodies playing volleyball" may have nothing
to do with the relative health of the bodies... 

I like being nude because it's RELAXING... not because of the scenery.
And the warm fuzzies that those who are comfortable with their bodies,
reguardless of their shape, is what I enjoy in a nude environment...
again, not the scenery.

amy
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From: galster@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight Galster)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Untraviolet
Summary: Ozone depletion, global warming, higher UV appears to be bogus.
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:39:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.16570
Followup-To: rec.nude
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo

Sometimes people ask questions about the potential harmful effects of UV
exposure while being out in the nude.  Someone always writes a sensible
response.  But apparently there's more to the story:

Recently I heard a news report stating that peer data (from other scientists
besides NASA, who publicized this in the first place) does not support the
conclusion that the ozone layer is being depleted.  The general idea is that
ozone is highly variable, that holes appear and disappear frequently, and that
the big hole recently publicized may have been the result of a volcano.  The
scientists say that overall, ozone had increased by 25% since the early
70's (my memory may not be exact here)
                                 AND.....
The level of UV reaching the earth's surface has actually decreased 
in recent years!

A group of 21 (number may not be exact) prominent scientists signed a
petition to the United Nations when they had their conference on global
warming which declared the whole thing a hoax and urged the UN to stop
this nonsense.

The reason NASA would promote inaccurate data?  Research money!  No one
will give you money for research if you say there's no problem!

The cost?  Trillions to consumers as we ban cfc's from refrigerators and
air conditioners and replace them with more expensive chemicals (whose
detrimental side effects have yet to be discovered).

And what of the cost to integrity?

Sorry if this seems inappropriate for rec.nude--it was because of the UV
that I thought you'd be interested.
From: dfo@tko.vtt.fi (Foxvog Douglas)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Info Request for CO at Sandy Hook ??
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:06:10 GMT
Organization: VTT Technical Research Centre of Finland, Oulu

In article <1992Apr8.114905.27753@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> bs24@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce Sarte) writes:
>
>
>
>	I have read here quite a while ago about the CO beach
>	at Sandy Hook State Park.  Can anyone out there give
>	directions on how to get there.  I know how to get to
>	Sandy Hook, but not where the CO beach is at.

Drive to parking lot G and walk to the right (south) 100-200 meters.

doug foxvog
dfo@tko.vtt.fi
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doug foxvog     
dfo@tko.vtt.fi
From: schindler@rz-berlin.mpg.de
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Public Pools & Sauna
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:57:28 +0100
Organization: Rechenzentrum MPG Berlin


	And then there is my Cousin, a German immigrant to the US. 
Some years ago she enter the Sauna in US as she was used: towel only!

	A bit embarrassing. She was looked at like a pervert.

	Don't worry, there are cultural traps where ever you go - Michael.
From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: CO Recreation in MA
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:25:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: polisci.rpaolino.261
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <1992Apr15.072919.16074@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bi045@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John A. Purbrick) writes:
>In a previous article, kwatsi@athena.mit.edu (Atomic Playboy) asks 
>about CO areas within 50-100 miles of the Boston area?
>The Puritans live! There's not much.

>As always when people ask about CO areas near your-city's-name-here, 
>GET THE WORLD GUIDE. It's even more of a FGR (Frequently Given Response)
>than answers to The Question.

I hope you aren't trying to discourage people from asking questions about 
locations for beaches.  No, I don't have the WG, but will probably get it 
sometime (BTW, could someone post a sample listing in its entirety to give 
those of us who don't have it an idea of the kind of information we'd get 
beyond just the location?).  But even if I did have it, I would still enjoy 
reading other people's reviews of particular areas and learn about places 
not listed.  SO KEEP ASKING AND KEEP REPLYING!!!



>they're being very naughty; it's illegal everywhere.
>-- 
>John Purbrick
>jpexg@lcs.mit.edu [preferred]
>bi045@cleveland.freenet.edu [also works]
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From: darkelf@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Michael X. Wellck, God-in-Training)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Swimsuits
Keywords: suits, tan lines
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:52:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <sfpc2INNlr9@ucsd.edu> gkn@ucsd.edu (Gerard K. Newman) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.215325.9273@vcd.hp.com> neff@vcd.hp.com (Dave Neff) writes:
[stuph deleted]
>>swimsuits that let some of the sun through so one can still prevent (reduce?)
>>tan lines even when visitting less progressive beaches :-).
>
>I have a suit made by a company called Solar, which seems to work pretty
>well;  it advertises that it's the same as wearing a level 8 sunscreen
>with the admonishment to move the seams once in a while.

[the following info is two years old]

the suits provide protection equal to SPF 10...
To place a credit card order with Swimsuit International, which handles
Solar Tanning Suits, call 800-458-9640...


Michael
darkelf@ucscb.ucsc.edu


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